Talk:S&T Daewoo K11

message: This is the case for most metric cartridges, including the 5.56x45mm referenced in the preceding line. This information shouldn't be in the introductory paragraph, it should either be excluded,  in the side card, or in the body of the article where the K167/K168 are described.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.5.124.154 (talk) 06:51, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "(caliber of shell x length of propellant case)" 

message: The UAE has purchased 40 K11s for evaluation purposes for a price of $560,000 giving an indicative unit cost of US$14,000. See: 
http://www.thenational.ae/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100527/BUSINESS/705279926/0/RSS
http://www.upi.com/Business_News/Security-Industry/2010/05/26/UAE-picks-rifles-from-South-Korea/UPI-21461274891958/
http://www.defensenews.com/story.php?i=4622797
This information was added to the page but subsequently deleted another user. I am awaiting an explanation from that user of why this was done.Mztourist (talk) 03:28, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As I told you on my talk page, the text I removed did not cite a source so it was not verifiable. In fact, the text itself was incorrect because the estimated price per rifle according to those sources is $14000, not $30000 as the text claimed. Looking at the edit history, apparently the citation was removed and the numbers were changed in an earlier unconstructive edit by IP 221.155.155.114. Since the article was not on my watchlist at that time, I was unaware of his edits and the incorrect text remained intact until I removed it later for being unsourced. In any case, as an evaluation purchase it should not be listed in the users section. I have added it back in the article summary. ROG5728 (talk) 04:29, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Does anybody seriously think it costs $14000 to manufacture a rifle with an attached computer? The 560,000 for 14 units is irrational maths. Obviously you charge far more for a small order than a large one because of the possibility of reverse-engineering. -WikiSkeptic (talk) 07:27, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purchase by UAE 

message: I don't think calling the weapon OICW is correct at all. OICW is the name of a discontinued American weapons program and is not exactly suitable as a weapon type. The K11, while inspired by the OICW program, is an independent development by the South Koreans. If anything I think the K11's type should be something like assault rifle-grenade launcher.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.45.222 (talk) 02:09, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree, "complex" can mean complicated or difficult to use, combined assault rifle is better, but it doesn't make it clear that its a rifle and grenade launcher, the current description more accurately reflects what it is Mztourist (talk) 06:27, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Koreans themselves do not call this rifle as assault rifle + grenade launcher. There should be better type title for this. Let's figure out. 복합 in English would be complex, compound, composite, mixed, united, etc. Kadrun (talk) 06:59, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Kadrun as I have said before this is English Wikipedia, not Korean Wikipedia and so we adopt standard descriptions. None of the words you have suggested describe the type and nature of the weapon any better than advanced assault rifle and grenade launcher. Mztourist (talk) 15:56, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: What if I tell you S&T Motiv themselves classify the K11 as dual-barrel air-burst weapon on their English online website. Anyway I'll check on online brochure. Kadrun (talk) 04:28, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

text: http://www.sntmotiv.com/st/company_pr01.html here we go... K11 Dual-Barrel Air-Burst Weapon. Since OICW stands for Objective Individual Combat Weapon and XM29 has its own designation, I do see no problem classifying this weapon as DAW or DBABW.Kadrun (talk) 04:36, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Type?? 

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message: Trying to find information and photos of the second generation I came across this article: https://www.armyrecognition.com/mspo_2017_news_official_online_show_daily_coverage/south_korean_defence_ministry_k-11_weapon_system_mspo_2017.html It neither includes any info beyond the most basic info nor specifies that the rifle shown is of the second generation, but the rifle in the picture looks slightly different from the usual photos (FCS, handguard). Also the poster in the background tells of an "update" of some kind. Please add a link to the source in the article if you deem it appropriate. Themediaman (talk) 21:30, 19 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second generation