Talk:Tausūg people

message: This article lacks references.  Yet it contains many assertions of an historical nature, which normally require quoting an external source, in order for the article to meet Wikipedia standards. yoyo 04:18, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a single external link given at the foot of the article, which I missed before.  It is to: http://litera1no4.tripod.com/tausug_frame.html, a page on the Phillipine Literature website.  All the material in this Wikipedia article appears to be taken verbatim from the external source.  Unless the author of that external webpage also wrote this article, I believe this article is simple plagiarism, and therefore contravenes guidelines. yoyo 11:39, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: This article states:
'It has been suggested that this article or section be merged with Suluk. (Discuss)'.
Pro:
Ethnically and culturally, the Suluk people in Sabah originated as Tausugs from the Phillipines.
Con:
The Suluk people have been in Sabah since the early 1970s, when they arrived in their thousands as refugees from the armed conflict of Muslims separatists in Mindanao with the Phillipine central government; or even earlier.  Many have lived the whole or most of their lives there, and some divergence of culture and identity would be expected from the different experiences of the Suluk in Malaysia and the Tausug in the Sulu archipelago.  Suluk children go to school with Malaysian children; Suluk adults work alongside Malaysians.
On balance:
It's up to the Tausug living in Malaysia - the Suluk - to decide their own identity for themselves.  It could be argued that by choosing to live under Malaysian rule, they have already made that decision.  Against that, it can be argued that many Suluk do return to their ancestral homes in the archipelago for visits, especially on special occasions.  I feel that it may be useful for Wikipedia readers to have the two articles kept separate, as it emphasises the current different situations of the two groups.  As an Australian of British descent, for example, I don't want to be thought of or treated as a displaced Briton. yoyo 12:00, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merger with [[Suluk]] 

message: The current reigning leadership of the Sultanate does not claim any sovereignty. Just claimants to the throne make such a claim to have a fundament for awarding orders of knighthood etc. The sovereignty over Sulu was transferred by Sultan Jamalul Kiram II by signing the carpenter agreement in 1915. The de jure sovereignty over North Borneo /Sabah was transferred to the Philippine Republic from Sultan Esmail Kiram I in 1962. Both transfers are valid and recognized by the governments, the Sulu Sultanate and under international law. About the Sultan (talk) 11:20, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sulu Sultanate Sovereignty claim 

message: That's not Tausug attire that they're dressed in. That's Maranao.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.108.117.105 (talk) 14:18, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding the picture of "Tausug" women on the page 

message: In the cursive sentence at the very top, it should include a reference to the Zulu people in Southern Africa. I think many visit this page while really searching for the African Zulu people. Niceley (talk) 22:23, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zulu people 

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thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: I have never seen Tausug written with a ū. Maybe that is the British English spelling. But I also think that English speaking Tausug people don't really put a "ū" in there. It sort of feels a bit anthropological. Merely being Tausug doesn't mean I have an expertise on anything about it. I just think there should be some sort of explanation about why there is a "ū" in the spelling of Tausug. Tausug is the more common spelling, certainly when I look at google scholar it is way more frequent. Is the language Tausug different than the people? I think someone should explain why or change it. 152.3.187.132 (talk) 18:18, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The use of a "ū" in the spelling of Tausūg is unusual, to me. I am Tausug and I have never seen that. I speak English. I have never seen tat.  

message: This might be an acceptable reference if the author is an expert. Elinruby (talk) 23:44, 2 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  reference removed from talk page 

message: was in a discussion of top-level governance. Might be if interest in a "daily life" article. Posting here in case somebody disagrees:
 The shamans were also exempted from practicing traditional marriage and they could have sensual relationships with the same sex, a common trait in numerous tribes throughout the Philippine archipelago and northern Borneo in pre-Islamic and pre-Christian times. Elinruby (talk) 03:22, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seems undue 

message: [ Elinruby (talk) 10:49, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  User-generated content but good leads for research 

message: And might be undue anyway  From discussion of patrilineal nature of regency Elinruby (talk) 00:55, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Really requires a reference  

message: There is a picture of man in a native costume that is described as wearing a traditional Tausug attire.  I thought the man is dressed in a modern Tausug costume and probably he is a groom.  Traditional native Tausug attire is tight fitting for the shirt and the trousers and adorned with gold/golden or metallic/bronze buttons on the chest, arm, shoulder and leg areas of the dress.  the upper part is called 'Lapih' while the lower trouser is called 'Kuput' as it is a tight-fitted pants. 112.198.99.33 (talk) 15:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Traditional Tausug Male Attire/Costume