Talk:Macarena

message: Somebody seems to have butchered this article.  If that person would like to comment on his/her reasons for doing such a massive edit, I am more than willing to consider the arguments.  Until that happens, I think that it is best to do a revert.  I will continue to revert destructive editing of this article until further notice. Ycaps123 21:19, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I recently came across a German version of the song and I was wondering if anyone knew anything about it?
I tried looking it up more on the internet but I haven't found anything except the video which is here: 1. 
So that means a German Macarena exists and I thought it would make a good addition to the page if we could find out more. 76.186.121.104 (talk) 04:33, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  German Version of the Macarena? 

message: I have noticed that the dance which accompanied the song Macarena has been credited to a ‘Venezuelan Flamenco instructor created it for her class to dance to, and it eventually caught on with the rest of the world.’.. no name, which doesn’t surprise me in the least. The same steps/moves for this dance were doing the rounds in the 1970’s and usually to ‘The Locomotion’ (Little Eva). As a DJ during that period (before and after) I saw the dance performed at least once a week. In 1989 I even video’d my own daughter (aged 8) doing the exact same dance (but this time to Kylie Minogue’s version). I would like to say that this type of action is very rare.. but sad to say it is not – though in this case the claimant seems to have remained anonymous (for whatever reason) … maybe in a few years time someone will pop up and say ‘I wrote that dance’. Anyone taking bets???
:I have the advantage of being a native Spanish speaker, and therefore being exposed to Los Del Río's numerous interviews concerning their smash hit. The Venezuelan Flamenco instructor the article refers to is probably the actual inspiration for the chorus of the song, and indirectly, the song itself. There was talk about herself creating the dance, but as you say yourself, this is probably based on hearsay, and most probably related to her trying to cash in on the craze. I had seen the Locomotion dance before myself, and it is pretty similar.
:I have to check the article's history to help clear up things a bit, but let me add some details from Los Del Rio's many interviews. Seems that our heroes were on a lounge tour of various places in South America, and the promoter of the Venezuelan leg of their tour took them to a hotel, where this supposedly loungey flamenco show was regularly staged. However, since Los Del Rio are actually Andalusian, they were pleasantly surprised by the main dancer's flamenco skills, "as good or better than those from any authentic Gypsy girl's from the Sacromonte caves in Granada" quote-unquote. Back in the hotel, one of them wrote the chorus, and the rest is history. Demf 04:00, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Macarena -The (origin of the)Dance 

message: The first paragraph says that the song first became a hit in the U.S. when the Bayside Boys remixed it in 1996. But then it says that the song was "later" covered by Los Del Mar as a single. So which version was the one that first became a hit?
:I recall it being popular in Miami while totally unknown in Philadelphia until much, much later.  If anyone has tracked the spread, it would be interesting to hear.71.203.125.108 (talk) 21:32, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline is off 

message: Should the dance be considered as part of (or at least inspired by) the Parapara genre, in that it involves preset movements and specific to arm movements?  This style of dance has been popular in Asia for decades.
:You're right: it's not a dance, it's a para, at least by the definition used in StepMania. That's why "Macarena" didn't work in DDR Disney Mix. --Damian Yerrick (☎) 15:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Para Para 

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message: I have noticed that the dance which accompanied the song Macarena has been credited to a ‘Venezuelan Flamenco instructor created it for her class to dance to, and it eventually caught on with the rest of the world.’.. no name, which doesn’t surprise me in the least. The same steps/moves for this dance were doing the rounds in the 1970’s and usually to ‘The Locomotion’ (Little Eva). As a DJ during that period (before and after) I saw the dance performed at least once a week. In 1989 I even video’d my own daughter (aged 8) doing the exact same dance (but this time to Kylie Minogue’s version). I would like to say that this type of action is very rare.. but sad to say it is not – though in this case the claimant seems to have remained anonymous (for whatever reason) … maybe in a few years time someone will pop up and say ‘I wrote that dance’. Anyone taking bets???
:I have the advantage of being a native Spanish speaker, and therefore being exposed to Los Del Río's numerous interviews concerning their smash hit. The Venezuelan Flamenco instructor the article refers to is probably the actual inspiration for the chorus of the song, and indirectly, the song itself. There was talk about herself creating the dance, but as you say yourself, this is probably based on hearsay, and most probably related to her trying to cash in on the craze. I had seen the Locomotion dance before myself, and it is pretty similar.
:I have to check the article's history to help clear up things a bit, but let me add some details from Los Del Rio's many interviews. Seems that our heroes were on a lounge tour of various places in South America, and the promoter of the Venezuelan leg of their tour took them to a hotel, where this supposedly loungey flamenco show was regularly staged. However, since Los Del Rio are actually Andalusian, they were pleasantly surprised by the main dancer's flamenco skills, "as good or better than those from any authentic Gypsy girl's from the Sacromonte caves in Granada" quote-unquote. Back in the hotel, one of them wrote the chorus, and the rest is history. Demf 04:00, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Macarena -The (origin of the)Dance 

message: Should the dance be considered as part of (or at least inspired by) the Parapara genre, in that it involves preset movements and specific to arm movements?  This style of dance has been popular in Asia for decades.
:You're right: it's not a dance, it's a para, at least by the definition used in StepMania. That's why "Macarena" didn't work in DDR Disney Mix. --Damian Yerrick (☎) 15:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Para Para 

message: Who was this "famous" actor? Cannot find him in imdb nor in google at all. There's just a reference to this page here.
Also it says that he had a "heart stroke"... I'm not sure if that's an accurate term, i'm guessing not (MGoers37 02:23, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ulf Wheeler 

message: Does somebody know where can I get the oroginal 1993 version?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.125.51.73 (talk) 01:32, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The original version did chart already as well in the Dutch Top 40, peaking at number 20. One can check this in the Top 40 app, which offers the tune too as a download. 62.140.132.17 (talk) 00:58, 22 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original version 

message: The song's artist credit goes to Los Del Rio since they created the original version.  I was wondering if anybody knows who is the female singer in the Bayside Boys Mix (the music video version) that the women in the music video lip-synch to?  I think it's important to place that information in the article otherwise if it wasn't for her school-girlish voice it probably wouldn't have been the megahit it was.
Her name is Carla Vanessa  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.54.143.248 (talk) 06:33, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who's The Female Singer In The Bayside Boys Mix? 

message: In the music video for the song, there's a line where a person says "I am not trying to seduce you!" If you've seen The Graduate, this line in the music video sounds exactly like the line Mrs. Robinson says to Ben. Did the Bayside Boys sample this line from the movie for their video? Worth mentioning in the article, if true? DippyDawg (talk) 23:57, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music video 

message: How many of these should we keep? Most likely the GrooveGrass Boyz version since it charted, but beyond that I'm lost. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 00:45, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Covers and parodies 

message: We have enough parodies and mentions listed. Let's not turn this article into a list of every time someone mentioned the song. Cases like the GrooveGrass Boyz and Animaniacs parodies are certainly non-trivial, but we don't need every instance of a parody. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 17:56, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Please, no more

message: I notice the origin of the dance is hotly debated, but I think the dance (craze) itself is notable enough to bear a description.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.191.125.142 (talk) 04:19, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The Game Heyy Macarena~ 23:43, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The dance itself 

message: The current version of the article has this sentence in the lead paragraph:
The "Bayside Boys Mix" became the best known version of the song, as it had English lyrics, sung by an uncredited artist.
*First of all, the statement strikes me as being almost certainly false, as I've never heard but everyone on the planet (for better or for worse) has heard the Los del Rio version.
*Secondly, it has no source for the claim.
*Thirdly, it strikes me as either a non sequitur or a grammatical nightmare.  I simply cannot follow the intent of the sentence after the first comma.
I'm deleting this piece of crap sentence. 74.178.230.234 (talk) 04:30, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nonsense sentence 

message: it was an international hit in 1995, 1996, and 1997, and continues to have a cult following
Cult following sounds like exaggeration. NotYourFathersOldsmobile (talk) 01:34, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cult following"? 

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message: ===Macadamia Nut===
The "Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix)" is parodied in the Animaniacs episode 92 as "Macadamia Nut" from Animaniacs (after the nut of the same name). The cartoon is a parody of the "Macarena" music video starring Dot and the entire Animaniacs cast. Unlike most song parodies on the show, this one uses the actual music from the song, with only minor alterations. This is because at the height of its popularity, Warner Bros. Records purchased the publishing rights to the song. The parody lyrics were written by Tom Ruegger. Rob Paulsen can be heard in the beginning in the background vocal. The parody lyrics can be translated as "¿Donde que vas a Nintendo?" ("Where did you go to, Nintendo?"), a reference to Nintendo, "¿Hola, que pasa, you grande sack o' grain-ia?" ("Hi, what's up, you big sacks of grain?"), a reference to the Squash and stretch technique, "Qui a coupe le fromage, we abstrain-ia" ("Who cut the cheese?  We abstrain"), a reference to the Freakazoid episode "Frenching with Freakazoid", "Lava tus manos, por favor" ("Wash your hands, please"), and "Otra vez on y vas the repetitive refrain-ia" ("One more time and you go the repetitive refrain.")During the song, after Dot Warner, Skippy Squirrel, Pinky, Minerva Mink, Hello Nurse laugh, Slappy asks, "I don't get it, what's the joke?!" and Minerva Mink, Hello Nurse, Skippy Squirrel, Pinky, and Dot Warner all answer, "Uh..." and the song resumes, and ends when The Warner Siblings say, "Oy, Macadamia Nuts!". In an interview, Jon McClenahan, animator of Animaniacs, and founder of StarToons, said of the experience, "'Dot the Macadamia Nut' was my pet project, and I laid it all out (not hard with white card BG's!) & animated as much of it as I could - in the end I think I did close to 60% of the animation for that. Dave Pryor did a few shots, Sternecky (freelancing) did a couple shots, (as yet not hired director) John Griffin also did a few, and I believe TJ House may have done a few." He also said, "In the Kids WB Animaniacs marathon, 'Dot the Macadamia Nut' was included, but apparently not as a viewer selection. It was introduced as 'PRODUCER TOM RUEGGER'S FAVORITE!' Ruegger regularly gushed about our work, and yes, he particularly liked "Macadamia" (the original simpler title). He never withheld compliments." It was performed by Rob Paulsen, Tress MacNeille, Jess Harnell, Frank Welker, Sherri Stoner, Nathan Ruegger, and Julie Brown.  68.49.78.77 (talk) 19:23, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Too much detail here; see WP:UNDUE and WP:NOTEVERYTHING. Also, most of the cited sources would not be considered reliable under WP:SPS. If better sources can be provided and this is summarized in a sentence or two, then maybe it could be added to the section discussing parodies. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 19:36, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 September 2021 

message: The "Macarena (Bayside Boys Mix)" is parodied in the Animaniacs episode 92 as "Macadamia Nut" from Animaniacs (after the nut of the same name). The cartoon is a parody of the "Macarena" music video starring Dot and the entire Animaniacs cast. Unlike most song parodies on the show, this one uses the actual music from the song, with only minor alterations. This is because at the height of its popularity, Warner Bros. Records purchased the publishing rights to the song. The parody lyrics were written by Tom Ruegger. Rob Paulsen can be heard in the beginning in the background vocal. The parody lyrics can be translated as "¿Donde que vas a Nintendo?" ("Where did you go to, Nintendo?"), a reference to Nintendo, "¿Hola, que pasa, you grande sack o' grain-ia?" ("Hi, what's up, you big sacks of grain?"), a reference to the Squash and stretch technique, "Qui a coupe le fromage, we abstrain-ia" ("Who cut the cheese?  We abstrain"), a reference to the Freakazoid episode "Frenching with Freakazoid", "Lava tus manos, por favor" ("Wash your hands, please"), and "Otra vez on y vas the repetitive refrain-ia" ("One more time and you go the repetitive refrain.")During the song, after Dot Warner, Skippy Squirrel, Pinky, Minerva Mink, Hello Nurse laugh, Slappy asks, "I don't get it, what's the joke?!" and Minerva Mink, Hello Nurse, Skippy Squirrel, Pinky, and Dot Warner all answer, "Uh..." and the song resumes, and ends when The Warner Siblings say, "Oy, Macadamia Nuts!". In an interview, Jon McClenahan, animator of Animaniacs, and founder of StarToons, said of the experience, "'Dot the Macadamia Nut' was my pet project, and I laid it all out (not hard with white card BG's!) & animated as much of it as I could - in the end I think I did close to 60% of the animation for that. Dave Pryor did a few shots, Sternecky (freelancing) did a couple shots, (as yet not hired director) John Griffin also did a few, and I believe TJ House may have done a few." He also said, "In the Kids WB Animaniacs marathon, 'Dot the Macadamia Nut' was included, but apparently not as a viewer selection. It was introduced as 'PRODUCER TOM RUEGGER'S FAVORITE!' Ruegger regularly gushed about our work, and yes, he particularly liked "Macadamia" (the original simpler title). He never withheld compliments." It was performed by Rob Paulsen, Tress MacNeille, Jess Harnell, Frank Welker, Sherri Stoner, Nathan Ruegger, and Julie Brown.  68.49.78.77 (talk) 19:23, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Too much detail here; see WP:UNDUE and WP:NOTEVERYTHING. Also, most of the cited sources would not be considered reliable under WP:SPS. If better sources can be provided and this is summarized in a sentence or two, then maybe it could be added to the section discussing parodies. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 19:36, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Macadamia Nut

message: I would recommend a bit more context about the dance in this article - seems more notable than the article implies, as the article mostly focuses on the song with only minor references to the dance craze.  -KaJunl (talk) 02:46, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree! The song is much better known for the dance than for the song itself. -Jordgette [talk] 18:20, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dance 

message: The link takes you to the remix. It should go to the original. 24.165.142.140 (talk) 00:54, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a link to the original version, but I couldn't find a video from an official channel, so I had to link to audio only. ResPM (T🔈🎵C) 01:05, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  YouTube link