Talk:Philippa of Hainault

message: jeanne (talk) 11:30, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

message: This is completely rediculous!  IP Address 20:12, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Afrocentrism]] in a spoof of the BBC? 

message: This is a myth: Queen Philippa was not at Neville's Cross, and never exercised any kind of military command.  The army that defeated David II was commanded by William de la Zouche, Archbishop of York.
Rcpaterson 07:57, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philippa and Neville's Cross. 

message: ::Oh for goodness sake. She wasn't black nor African. Phillipa had Armenian ancestry on her dad's side. She was a descendant of the Armenian Princess Morphia of Melitene, her 'dark' coloring is from her Armenian ancestry given Armenians are usually darker/olive complexion in coloring then your typical fair coloring English person. (Angar432 (talk) 02:10, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: She also had Cuman ancestry on her mother's side. Seeing as the Cumans originated from Central Asia, she would have most likely had slightly Asiatic features and colouring.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 07:12, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ARMENIAN ANCESTRY 

message: The picture of Philippa in the article is highly fanciful and romanticised and I don't beleieve it is suitable for an encylopeda article. Compare it with this image held by the National Portrait Gallery: http://www.npg.org.uk/live/search/portrait.asp?search=ss&sText=hainault&LinkID=mp03536&rNo=1&role=sit  
Grant | Talk 15:50, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: The suggestion that Philippa was visibly African in appearance, that is. Her ancestry is known for many generations back, and there is no trace of African in it. Her father had several daughters for the later Edward III to choose from, and it is fairly well attested that while for reasons of alliance he had to pick one of them, Philippa he found personally sympathetic and she was his preference. If there had been doubts about her parentage, or if she had been of what at the time would certainly have been seen as a peculiar appearance, he would have been warned off her and directed to another daughter (he was only 13 at the time, and firmly under his mother's tutelage).
Nevertheless, since others have raised these concerns before and let what I can only see as an absurdity stand, I will do the same.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.144.188.54 (talk) 08:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A joke, surely 

message: The entire Life section of the article is a complete mess. It really needs to be improved and brought up to Wikipedia standards. At the moment the prose looks awful and the section contains nothing but quotes and descriptions.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 17:09, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have improved the article somewhat and have broken the Life section into two sections; however, there needs to be more biography on her.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 10:21, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Section a mess

message: Exactly when was she regent? In which years?--85.226.45.47 (talk) 23:00, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regent 

message: The Issue section seems confusing.  It says there were 14 children; but lists 12 of them and adds "Another three sons and two daughters died in infancy".  I make that 17 children in all.  Astronaut (talk) 14:31, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing this out. According to Charles Cawley, Philippa had 13 known children. I have since made the necessary correction.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 14:56, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issue with the issue 

message: The modern French (Belgian) spelling is Hainaut; the more archaic spelling is Hainault. However, in English-language sources, the county (and Philippa in particular) are almost always spelt Hainault. I've compromised by changing" all references to Philippa to Hainault, but leaving references to the county as Hainaut. It's not ideal, so if anyone wants to improve on it, please do.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by GrindtXX (talk • contribs) 15:40, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Hainaut or Hainault?

message: The article states that she was regent in England during the absence of her spouse. Exactly which years was she regent? Should it not be written in the article? It is highly relevant facts.--85.226.41.14 (talk) 18:08, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Years of regency 

message: , please stop changing her coronation date to 18 February 1330 without explanation, discussion or sources. (I see you virtually never provide edit summaries. PLEASE LEARN TO DO SO. It takes seconds, and is an act of basic courtesy to other editors.) We have a citation of a reliable source – Juliet Vale in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography – saying that "it was ... on 25 February 1330 that Philippa was crowned in Westminster Abbey". The article in the old Dictionary of National Biography by William Hunt (published 1895) – see wikisource  – says "She was crowned at Westminster on 4 March 1330". The difference between Old Style and New Style dates in the 14th century would have been 7 days (and there is 7 days between 18 Feb and 25 Feb, and again between 25 Feb and 4 March). It may be, therefore, that Vale was using the Old Style (Julian) calendar in use at the time, whereas Hunt converted his date to the New Style (Gregorian) calendar. Alternatively, it may be that Vale was using New Style, and you have a source that uses Old Style: if so, please tell us what it is. Or the explanation may be something else entirely. But we will get nowhere if you won't explain yourself. For now, I am reverting to 25 February, as we have a reliable modern source that explicitly says that. GrindtXX (talk) 20:11, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Be polite and look at my sources, you vulgar person... --Edouard2 (talk) 09:36, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

text: Besides, you are really hysterical --Edouard2 (talk) 09:41, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

text: No human being should ever be spoken like you've spoken to me. Bear that in mind ! --Edouard2 (talk) 09:41, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of coronation