Talk:Vijayanagara Empire

message: Dear Wiki users,The map of Vijayanagara empire seems to have a small correction.Vijayanagara empire of sangama dynasty never ruled whole srilanka and they ruled only the upper part of srilanka controlled by the Arya-chakravarthies during the time of 1441 AD to 1450 AD.Please verify it. Truk789 (talk) 06:32, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map of Vijayanagar Empire 

message: The sources do not mention that Vijayanagar ruled Sri Lanka. The cited atlas has several issues, as many of its kingdom maps are inaccurate, and it conflates the histories of multiple empires from the same era. DeepstoneV (talk) 15:48, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like a proper consensus is needed on the maximum extent of the Empire, and the inclusion or exclusion of Sri Lanka and some other parts. Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 03:40, 13 April 2024 (UTC)

text: The map doesn't shows Vijayanagara rule in Sri Lanka but shows its supremacy over it - https://archive.org/details/in.gov.ignca.16035/page/260/mode/1up?view=theater - According to Persian ambassador Abdur Razzak Vijayanagaran dominions spread over from Ceylon to Kulburga as supported by Nuniz Sathyashraya (talk) 12:36, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The cartographer also included tributary regions on the Vijayanagara map. However, the same source you provided also mentioned Vijayanagara's tribute to the Bahmani Sultanate. Therefore, it would be appropriate to depict Vijayanagara territories under Bahmani Sultanates as well.Even if we consider Vijayanagara Suzerainty over Sri Lanka than it would only be on Jaffna kingdom of Sri Lanka not all of Sri Lanka. I can make a accurate map of Vijayanagara empire if u can Provide me the source that Jaffna Kingdom of Sri Lanka was under vassalization of Vijayangar  DeepstoneV (talk) 18:49, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Restored to the original version for now until a consensus here can be formed and especially be attributed with sources. Noorullah (talk) 21:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The current map appears to be more accurate, as Sri Lanka was not governed by Vijayanagara. If it had been ruled, it would have been only the Jaffna Kingdom under their suzerainty.The old map collides the histories of multiple kingdoms. DeepstoneV (talk) 08:38, 18 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Previous, current? Please be specific. I've added a gallery, to make it clear what we're talking about. Looking at this map ("globalsecurity.org") (webpage here)  and this map ("Ancient Indian Coins") (webpage here), it seems that Calicut, Sri Lanka, and apart of the Gajapati Kingdom of Orissa were tributaries of the Vijayanagara Empire. This is reflected in none of the maps above. Also, the extent of the Vijayanagara Empire's hold on Sri Lanka seems to be disputed, and the inclusion of the coastal area of the Bahmani Kingdom or Sultanate also seems a matter of dispute. So, we do indeed need a new map, based on more sources than just the present one, , which is obviously inaccurate.  could you offer your skills and talents here? Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 05:27, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  Here is the preliminary version of a map, based on the one published by Burton Stein, eminent historian of South India. It's from his History of India (2nd ed., 2010) p.135, Map 8, for circa 1485. The legend doesn't clarify about direct rule versus tributaries, so I am unclear why the Gajapati area is shaded unlike Calicut and Sri Lanka. I will try to collect more sources when I get an opportunity, to add details and modify as needed.  -Avantiputra7 (talk) 11:41, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! Joshua Jonathan - Let's talk! 13:05, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing Vijayanagar Kingdom's Map 

message: Previous uploaded map was in accurate Mnbnjghiryurr (talk) 15:07, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism against vijaynagar Empire map