Talk:California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo/Archive 1

message: not sure why this was moved; if you move, please click on "what links here" and fix all the double redirects. But isn't "Cal Poly" the conventional term? --Jiang 02:29, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess you are right in saying that this is the more common name even if it is not the proper name of the university.  With this in mind, I think that Cal Poly Pomona and Cal Poly would be the most common names. SLO's page refers to it both as this name and as its proper name California Polytechnic State University.  This is because they were the Original Cal Poly.  Pomona's page refers to it as either the proper name California State Polytechnic University Or as Cal Poly Pomona (no comma).  It would be nice if we could keep Cal Poly as a disambig page to help clear all this up, but I understand if we make this the SLO page. Cavebear42 17:21, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO, the article's title should be simply Cal Poly, with link to Cal Poly Pomona at the top. Traditionally, the name Cal Poly unambiguously refers to the university in San Luis Obispo. By having the disambiguation page, you're actually creating an artificial ambiguity where there wasn't one to begin with. Anþony 02:23, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Old 2004 discussions

message: I edited the Foundation Section.  It appears someone dumped some text copy of their Mission Statement / Corporate Objectives from one of their annual reports or website that equaled about 25% of the total text in this article.  As this is non-credited material that is more along the lines of corporate promotion than anything of factual value I pulled it.  As a Cal Poly Alumni I can report first hand that at least from the late 80's onward the Foundation has never been very popular primarily due its monopoly on services on the campus among other reasons so I added that in the discussion. Joeconsumer 10/01/05
The programs and degrees section could use some work.  Some items in that list are Majors that don't have their own departments (Software Engineering is a Degree offered by the Computer Science Department), or share departments (Industrial Engineering and Manufacturing Engineering are both offered by the Industrial and Manufacturing Engineering Department).  Others are Departments which offer multiple Degrees (The Theatre and Dance Department offers a Major (and minor) in Theatre Arts and a Minor in Dance), or offer only Minors (Such as the Ethnic Studies and Womens Studies Departments).  --Arscott 06:16, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Foundation Edits

message: Why were women banned from the school from 1929-1956? (Alphaboi867 05:18, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  coed/all-male/coed? 

message: I believe this constitutes link spam. The site isn't referenced anywhere in the article and has no direct relation to the university. Anþony 02:23, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: SLOWeather link

message: I'm removing this line as just off the top of my head, I can think of more than six; Cal Poly SLO, Cal Poly Pomona, MIT, CalTech, Georgia Tech, Florida Tech, Texas Tech, RIT, etc. --WHSTalk 05:08, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polytechnic Universities 

message: A couple entries in the Notable alumni section are questionable:
Eric Breverman, Rock and roll music phenom.
Nicholas Wilby, Developer/Tester of recently deployed male birth control pill, "Spermbgon"
I'm going to delete them, but I just wanted to make a note here just in case. Perfect13thStep 18:05, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: People constantly add bogus or non-notable names to the alumni list it seems.  Good job, I say :) Tyro 07:06, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable alumni 

message: I removed the sentence
:Cal Poly's admissions process is highly selective. 
and instead, moved a sentence from the following paragraph up to replace it:
:In Fall 2006, 31,103 students applied to Cal Poly, and 11,726 were accepted (37%). Of those accepted, 3,836 (38%) enrolled.
The sentence "Cal Poly's admissions process is highly selective" is a good example of a peacock term. It doesn't actually mean anything in particular, because there's no agreed-upon definition of "highly selective." It's just a way of paying Cal Poly a compliment. As such, it is (slightly) non-neutral and a (mild) example of academic boosterism.
Instead, I replaced it with the actual percentages. The reader can judge how selective 37% is. 
As the guideline on avoiding peacock terms says,
"Let the facts speak for themselves. If the ice hockey player, canton, or species of beetle is worth the reader's time, it will come out in the facts. Insisting on its importance clutters the writing and adds nothing." Dpbsmith (talk) 23:56, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: has continued to insert "highly selective" into the article, so I have informed him/her about the three revert rule.  Further reverting after this can be reported on the 3RR violations page. Tyro 08:59, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Highly selective" 

message: Recommend some more fun activities such as farmer's market, its close location to the ocean, etc, or student clubs and activities.  Improved pictures desired.
Improved Notable Alumni Section
Some of these rankings should go in the rankings section: https://www.cob.calpoly.edu/business-college-rankings/
(such as the close to tech startup rankings), https://www.linkedin.com/edu/california-polytechnic-state-university-san-luis-obispo-17816 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:6003:5900:4D59:EFB6:9466:DE0 (talk) 07:28, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Article needs improvement 

message: I'm changing the date of completion to 2003, because I'm pretty sure I was living in the Cerro Vista apartments between fall '03 and spring '04. mzellman 05:44, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of Completion of Cerro Vista 

message: I noticed this article doesn't mention anything about Cal Poly athletics, except for the 1960 plane crash and the templates at the bottom.  Since the team competes in Division I in all (or most) sports, I believe athletics should get some mention here.  I would start it, but I really don't know too much about the sports at school... Cowmeister88 07:35, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lacrosse (USLIA), crew, rugby, bicycling, rodeo (NIRA),... are club level with national club championships.  The rest are D1.--68.126.28.93 (talk) 19:11, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Athletics 

message: It doesn't seem helpful or appropriate to have the text of the alumni and fight songs. I looked at a few other good university articles, and they did not have them. Basar 04:36, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Song texts 

message: Changed main logo to look more professional and similar to actual University logo. (Justsomeboi 23:29, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Logo 

message: This section claims that Cal Poly is the largest land-owning university in the State of California. I believe that in fact UC Berkeley is the largest land holder. Cal Poly's own website confirms this: http://www.calpoly.edu/aboutcp.html 
Unless anyone objects I am going to make the relevant changes to that sentence.
Tjm402 (talk) 02:07, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a reference that states this in case there are private universities that own more land? Or, it can state "public university." 72Dino (talk) 19:13, 24 January 2013 (UTC)

text: Good point.  I amended the language to state that Cal Poly is the largest land-holding public university in CA.  Don't know if it's the largest if private colleges/universities are included.  Will do some research.Contributor321 (talk) 19:30, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Campus

message: Added expansion section.  All information based on Cal Poly Master Plan and Cal Poly Facilities and Planning. Edit: Fixed copywrite problems.(Justsomeboi 00:27, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion 

message: Changed title of colleges to the official name of colleges.
For example, Business is officially Orfaela College of Business. (Justsomeboi 00:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colleges 

message: I think we need an alumni section as most universities have a section dedicated to memorable or noteworthy alumni.
:Indeed, we have a whole article for it found in the see also section. Basar 01:41, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alumni 

message: Basar has a good point about removing the images and putting it in a commons section.  However, I believe the main page should encorporate more images of the University.  Removing the images takes away from the main page.  Wikipedia users of USC, for example, have set out to put as many images representing the university as they can (without being repetative.  I think its only repatative if the same structures are displayed. (Justsomeboi 01:08, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's fine to add more, but I think the USC article is quite excessive. There is a delicate balance that needs to be achieved when adding pictures. Furthermore, pictures ideally illustrate the text of the article which the current ones do not. For example, a picture of the campus from the 50s would be excellent for the history section. I personally like the image density of Boston, Massachusetts. Basar 01:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: Being that ASI is the main student government here in Cal Poly, employing hundreds of Cal Poly student, I think and ASI section should be added.  I'll try to work on that section.  Also Student Life should be exapnded being that the activities and extra curriculars that Cal Poly offers help define the Cal Poly atmosphere and give readers a better glimpse of the "personality" of Cal Poly and its students, faculty, and stuff.  Such topics that could be covered could be the large intramural fields, traditions (such as P being lit during games), recreation center, Week of Welcome, and emphasis on the many clubs in Cal Poly. (Justsomeboi 15:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Student Life and ASI 

message: The USNEWS rankings are now updated with the 2008 ranking.  Good job to cal poly for continuing and increasing its academic excellence!
(Justsomeboi 20:25, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rankings 

message: Most universities on Wikipedia have a large infobox on the bottom of their article with a list of all the schools and such.  Cal Poly Pomona just added one to their entry.  How can we make one?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.96.184.105 (talk) 22:10, August 28, 2007 (UTC) 
:Yes of course, you'll first have to create an account, then create a page at Template:California Polytechnic State University and copy and paste in the code from Template:California State Polytechnic University, Pomona, and then you can modify the code to suit Cal Poly. When it is complete, you can put it on the Cal Poly articles by adding . You can find some of the other Cal Poly related articles at :Category:California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo—there seems to be about six or seven already created articles that can go in the template. More can be created too. I'll help you if you need any help. -- Basar (talk · contribs) 00:33, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: All right I made an infobox based on the CSU Pomona infobox.  Please help in editing it and finding Cal Poly articles that can be added to the infobox.  Thanks to Basar to the instructions on adding one! (Justsomeboi 23:23, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cal Poly Infobox

message: Much more happens in the university than the greek organization or residence halls.  Topics noteworthy of mention include the many clubs on campus, university hour, Week of Welcome, Open House, Recreation on campus, student impact on the city of San Luis Obispo, and ASI (student government).  Anyone with information on this want to help on expanding the student life section?  (Justsomeboi (talk) 08:17, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Student Life

message: Hello, I noticed your recent edits and thought you might want to become a member of the California State University WikiProject.  We've recently revamped the project page and started a drive to improve California State University-related articles. We have a lot of articles under our project and would like assistance getting them to good article status.  Hope you'll join us. Go STATE!
--Dabackgammonator (talk) 05:51, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP CSU 

message: The beginning paragraph states that Cal Poly is the second largest university as far as land. However, in the "campus" section it's states that Cal Poly is the largest landholding university. Which one is it?--Coching (talk) 22:16, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction: Cal Poly's landholdings 

message: I see no need to edit-war this. Clearly in the case of Cal Poly Pomona, there is a disconnect between common use on the one hand and accuracy on the other. That article covers the issue. In the case of Cal Poly, the issues are minor, certainly no greater than for "Chico State" or any other CSU campus. There's no need to dwell on it here.--Curtis Clark (talk) 16:11, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: funny you say this because both schools build the rose float. their logo says cal poly rose float. the best thing to do it just to think about it this way their is really one cal poly, but two campuses(just like ASU). both use a wild horse under different names as mascots and  use the same school colors green and gold. both campuses have many streets with the same name. both campuses also have almost identical building layouts(streets are curved) so in reality its one cal poly but in two  different locations. :) Javiern (talk) 03:03, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked at the 2010 float just yesterday; it says "Cal Poly Universities". Continuing your mental exercise, both are equally close to the ocean, both have a high percentage of non-white students, and both are south of Paso Robles. Since they are the same, I'm sure the Mustangs won't mind of the Broncos use part of their endowment. :-) --Curtis Clark (talk) 14:40, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh, have you ever been to San Luis Obispo? Much closer to the ocean than Pomona, and it seems almost everybody is white.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.128.8.73 (talk) 03:25, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

text: We don't work for the university so we're not bound by their policies.  And their policies don't necessarily affect what others say and so which is what we document here. ElKevbo (talk) 02:34, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The university branding guidelines are guidelines for everyone's use, not just internal use.  With regard to athletics, there are separate and more restrictive branding guidelines.  Additionally, there is the official NCAA names, Cal Poly and Cal Poly Pomona.  Thus when referring to athletics, Cal Poly San Luis Obispo should never be used.  Non-athletically, there is a little more room, but yes Cal Poly is the preferred short form.  If you are absolutely insistent upon using San Luis Obispo and don't want to use the full name, you should add a comma or "at" before "San Luis Obispo" but Cal Poly or California Polytechnic State University is preferred.--CriticalThinking26 (talk) 23:55, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whose naming controversy? 

message: Chancellor Charles B. Reed's opinion is subjective, and does not constitute policy making by the Board of Trustees of the California State University or California State Legislature. I propose to remove this opinion from the article as it adds no context.
In a related topic, User:Mervyn Emrys once indicated in an interesting discussion thread, that former University of California, Berkeley chancellor Robert Berdahl had stated,
:: "those of us in 'systems' of higher education are frequently actively discouraged from using the term 'flagship' to refer to our campuses because it is seen as hurtful to the self-esteem of colleagues at other institutions in our systems. The use of the term is seen by some as elitist and boastful. It is viewed by many, in the context of the politics of higher education, as 'politically incorrect.' ... Only in the safe company of alumni is one permitted to use the term." 
I'm sure there are other ways to convey Cal Poly SLO's sense of academic grandeur.
--Marco Guzman, Jr (talk) 20:24, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Marco, I'm sure there are other ways that you can find to vandalize the Cal Poly article.  The article is not saying that it is an "official" flagship--just that it has been "referred to" as such.  Just as the Cal Poly Pomona article goes to great lengths to say that it has been referred to as "Cal Poly" by locals.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.205.242 (talk) 23:57, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think is safe to assume that your stance is to maintain the flagship claim. As much as I differ from it, I thank you for your input.--Marco Guzman, Jr (talk) 00:29, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

text: i thought articles in wikipedia were not supposed to biased adding a statement as such makes an article biased75.30.124.170 (talk) 01:54, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: To the contrary, removing the reference would be biased.  The citation clearly supports the assertion being made.  Just because a Pomona editor doesn't like it, well, tough.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.202.205.242 (talk) 07:40, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia wants credibility for the articles right? yes. then comments like so need to go away75.30.126.209 (talk) 00:22, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Reaching a consensus

message: A large number of footnotes have been added and broken links fixed in October 2012.  Is it still necessary to state "This article needs additional citations for verification. (December 2011)" under "This article has multiple issues"?  98.234.109.54 (talk) 15:06, 16 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional Citations Still Needed? 

message: There are wiki pages for several Mustang individual sports programs - baseball, basketball, football, soccer, but I cannot find any wiki page for the Mustangs sports program overall.  If this page exists, it should be clearly linked to this page in the Athletics section.  If it does not exist, perhaps someone knowledgeable about Mustangs sports could create this page. Barryjjoyce (talk) 21:56, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Cal Poly SLO Mustangs

message: Although I support having a naming section, I respectfully  see no reason to include a "see naming" flag in the first sentence.  It makes for an odd opening, and serves no purpose; there is a table of contents, and people are free to navigate to the naming section. 67.174.238.254 (talk) 19:32, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening Sentence 

message: It seems that there is some repeated editing of the lead by IPs. I've looked at WP:Sockpuppet investigations/Mangoeater1000 but can't easily find the bottom line of that report. In my research I happened to notice this change to the lead, undoing a change by an IP. Are there any regular editors who would support long term semiprotection of this article due to IPs warring about the name of the school? Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 18:36, 19 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Endorsing semi-protection per recent edit-warring-like reverts to lead by IPs. -- Marco Guzman, Jr  Talk   18:59, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Approve. There is no "agenda" behind this. The official name as stated by both the CSU and Cal Poly SLO is to be presented as "California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo" thus this should be in the title or the first line at least. Cal Poly is simply a "common name" and should be secondary. Special:Contributions/Uwatch310 09:39, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

text: Striking-out comments made by banned user. Please refer to Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mangoeater1000 and Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Mangoeater1000/Archive. Thank you -- Marco Guzman, Jr  Talk   20:13, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I hope you don't mind that I've removed the comments entirely.  Blocked editors shouldn't be editing at all.  Those who are interested in reading his or her edits are welcome to do so in this history of this Talk page. ElKevbo (talk) 20:37, 21 March 2013 (UTC)

text: Without lending my support to or approval of Marco's edits, I support semi-protecting this article and possible even this Talk page as well as the other pages targeted by this de facto banned editor. ElKevbo (talk) 20:35, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: After seeing the comments here, I've gone ahead with one year of semiprotection. Let me know if any other articles are affected. Thanks, EdJohnston (talk) 21:03, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semiprotection may be considered 

message: Fluid, a product sort of like PowerBar, is a company that was founded as a senior project here too. From their website: "Fluid is an all natural healthy replenishment product for Fast • Complete • Muscle Recovery. Awarded "Best Nutrition Product of the Year" at TriFest '08, Fluid was originally created as part of a university senior project at Cal Poly San Luis Obispo and is exploding world wide."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eddyfinnso (talk • contribs) 00:49, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bachelor's Projects 

message: Hello!
My name is Uriel and I am trying to write a wikipedia page regarding Don Morris and his enormous influence within the university of California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo (Cal Poly) and the surrounding community here in San Luis Obispo. I was wondering if you could show me how I could maybe combat some of the points regarding his deletion. I have list of accomplishments and other events he participated in during his time in San Luis Obispo and groups he created that has the potential to show that he is a notable member in the community.
Thank you so much for your time and have a great day!
EndlessLode (talk) 08:02, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help Regarding Community Figure if Possible 

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message: I reverted an edit which removed most of the Incidents and controversies section. The section needs additional references to improve its verifiability. The wording could also be improved. Semancion (talk) 19:57, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  References for Incidents and controversies section 

message: This article links the Charles Voorhis mentioned here to a Charles Voorhis of New Jersey who killed himself in 1896. It's not the same guy and the link should be removed. I used the link b/c I thought the guy in this article might be the same Voorhies who has a building named after him at UC Davis. It probably is but you wouldn't find out from the incorrect link here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.138.89.122 (talk) 04:15, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charles Voorhis link is incorrect 

message: I noticed that the section on "Relations with local community" uses Zillow as a reference. I'm wondering, is Zillow considered a reliable reference? I know Zillow has grossly underestimated the value of a number of houses in the area, but that counts as Original Research. 108.252.124.176 (talk) 19:48, 7 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relations with local community / Zillow quote 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Elli (talk | contribs) 19:13, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: California Polytechnic State University →  – This article was moved from California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo to California Polytechnic State University in August 2012. While technically unambiguous, this could easily be confused with the California State Polytechnic University in Pomona; both are commonly referred to as Cal Poly. The California State University website gives the name of the college as California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo. Searching "Cal Poly" on Google gives results related to both CPSLO and CPP. In addition, all California State Universities with the exception of the Maritime Academy are commonly referred to by their city names. Crossover1370 (talk | contribs) 19:40, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 18 June 2021