Talk:Fulbright Program

message: Alumni list should be ordered by last name first. there appears to be no rational purpose in the current ordering.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.48.205.82 (talk) 04:05, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ordering Request

message: I've requested cleanup on this page as (1) much of the page is written like an advertisement or uses many weasel-words and (2) the organization of sections is not clear. For example, the Fulbright alumni section does not make it clear that these are alumni of the US Student programs. Perhaps, as a starting point, the long-ish intro could be split up into a History section and a section on the US Student Program, cf. the Fulbright Prize section. Information is also pretty much missing on foreign student programs. mitcho/芳貴 23:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand the logic of why a scholarship information can be written in "advertisement" format as what the tag is put. How can a scholarship be marketed? Sounds funny. Please remove unnecessary tag. 202.156.11.4 15:19, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am referring to phrasing such as "have recognized the importance of continued involvement and action in the name of increasing mutual understanding" and also the unreferenced figure of "36 Nobel Prize Winners among its alumni, more than any other scholarship program of its kind." mitcho/芳貴 06:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  April 25, 2007: cleanup requested 

message: The Fulbright Program was and is an internationalist reaction to two pointless World Wars.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.194.200 (talk) 09:57, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: White Fulbright stood on stolen Red Indian land. Admittedly, he was born there.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.194.200 (talk) 10:11, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Post war 

message: Just a note of clarification... Dolph Lundgren was awarded a Fulbright, but resigned after 2 weeks.https://twitter.com/fulbrightprgrm/status/21583245690 As far as the Fulbright Program is concerned, being a Fulbright "recipient" or alum includes completing the award term. I'm not editing anything and will leave it to the community to decide. Zenter (talk) 18:31, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dolph Lundgren 

message: Stop adding material about a Fulbright scholar winning a drag race. As several other editors have explained, this is not notable. Natureium (talk) 15:00, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: If I may ... Ru Paul's Drag Race is not a "drag race" in the normal sense of the word. Don't assume :-) Looking at the length of that list of scholarship recipients, there's probably no reason to exclude Sasha Velour from it, but the NPR source should probably be used, and the others on the list should probably have sources added. On the other hand I agree, unless there's been extensive coverage in the press of the Fulbright angle on his win, this is WP:UNDUE in the list of "things Fulbright scholars have gone on to do". Unless there is such coverage, it's relevant for the article on him, not so much for the article on the Fulbright program except for the inclusion of his name in the list. However, adding the fact was not disruptive; it was intended as a broadening of the section, so far as I can see. Yngvadottir (talk) 16:23, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Velour is still listed as a recipient, what is being removed is a separate part about RuPaul's Drag Race. More than 360,000 people have participated in the Fulbright Program. If you include all contests won and reality shows participated in, you would need an entirely separate list. A drag race is not of the same notability as a Nobel prize. Natureium (talk) 16:36, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Or a major political post, I tend to agree. However, I could be wrong, it's really up to sources: it's possible that  can show that it's been widely reported in reliable sources that this changes the reputation of the Fulbright Program. In either event, I don't believe this was tendentious editing. Sometimes another editor brings something that others weren't aware of; we can't all read all the news sites every day. And my point remains that I think that long list of recipients needs a good dose of sourcing. Yngvadottir (talk) 18:24, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Well the Fulbright Program themselves seem quite happy to associate themselves with it and announced it themselves. . Canterbury Tail talk 18:33, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why does it matter whether of not the Fulbright Program wants to be associated with it? We don't make PR pages. Natureium (talk) 19:06, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Gotta agree with Natureium here (minus the accusations of vandalism). It doesn't merit inclusion to the summary list of accomplishments of the Notable alumni section that includes Pulitzer and Nobel Prize winners, heads of state, and other government leaders otherwise you would need start counting every profession listed, (e.g. authors, professors, governors, actors, etc.). However it should be added as an accomplishment to Velour's entry in the list. I'll do that in my next edit. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 19:55, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Works for me.  Way WP:UNDUE to have it in the lead or given much mention - it's not a major reality show, but adding it their entry is perfect. Ravensfire (talk) 21:05, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drag race notability 

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