Talk:Conservative Party of Quebec (historical)

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The result of the proposal was no consensus for move due to lack of participation. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:17, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
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#Support as I said above. --Checco 20:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
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message: #Support as I said above. --Checco 20:10, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
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::The rule on Wikipedia isn't actually "English whenever possible" — it's technically possible to translate both Bloc Québécois and Parti Québécois, too, but that would result in absurd titles that nobody on the planet actually uses. The rule is actually that we use whichever name, be it English or French, is more documentably in use for the topic in English-language sources. In some cases that is a translated name, but in others an original, untranslated French name is used — and Wikipedia's rule is to be consistent with actual usage. 
::So, that clarified, I ask because I genuinely don't know: how is this party more normally referred to in English-language history books? Move if the English name is more typical, don't move if the French name is. Bearcat 03:52, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
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In English Canada, the names of Quebec parties are never translated, hence PQ, BQ and ADQ.  But when they are national parties, e.g., the Conservative, the Liberal or the New Democratic parties, the English names are used.  I have no idea why this is.
Incidentally, I do not think that the ADQ is a successor to the UN, because it is more populist than establishment.  It is much more similar to the Creditistes.  --The Four Deuces 14:34, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
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message: Do we have a citation for 1939 (rather than, say, 1936?).  Actually, do we have a citation for 1850?
I'm a bit uncomfortable with disambiguation for political parties by specifying exact years, which may be hard to research or sometimes even hard to define.  Eg, was the Union Nationale formed when it became an electoral alliance or when it became a true political party.  And the exact year of death for parties that linger long after they have become moribund can be tricky, especially if the party splinters into factions each claiming to be the true successor.  It would be preferable perhaps to specify only a decade, or a vaguer nomenclature like "(historical)". -- P.T. Aufrette (talk) 19:47, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've followed the example of the Conservative Party of Canada (historical) and renamed the article. Vale of Glamorgan (talk) 20:01, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  disambiguation style (why 1939, and should we even be that precise in any case?) 

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