Talk:Club Penguin/Archive 1

message: Hi, I've removed the secrets section of this article. If you're wondering why, please take a look at the guidelines about what Wikipedia is not. Amongst these its clear that Wikipedia is not a "how to" guide, so this section is not appropriate. Thanks, Gwernol 20:44, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secrets section 

message: Ok, I've removed the fan sites' section, and the section about upcoming events. We don't want advertisements, and this page isn't a bulletin board to list events on. So they're gone. Also, I added a few new sections, and generally fixed up the article, hopefully making it more acceptable. I'm still changing a few things on the article, but those are the larger edits out of the way now. Tetsumonchi 00:53, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Some major edits

message: Alright, I really never saw reason for this page to be deleted but of course, I wasn't here when all this junk showed up around here. Thank you for cleaning it up! Good on you all! --WaitorWaitorWaitor 01:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Thank You

message: OMG I GOT A BUNCH OF INFORMATION OFF HERE! THIS PAGE WAS GREATTTTT!! HOW DARE U DELETE IT!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 167.206.69.41 (talk • contribs) .  
*Folks, first please calm down and avoid obscene and offensive comments. They do not help your case. The reason this page was deleted is that it had previously been deleted after a discussion by the community that concluded the page was non-notable. You can view that discussion here. If you believe the latest incarnation of the article should be restored, you can submit it for review here. Good luck, Gwernol 14:48, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversy over deletion of article

message: .... with all the people who say that Club Penguin is popular, U know RuneScape , look how many people go on that. More people go on Club Penguin because it is no.1 on the miniclip chart. RuneScape number 2. I still like RuneScape but mure people go on Club Penguin then RuneScape.--I.W 21:01, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I agree... 

message: Just now, I looked up whats happening on club penguin and somebody said that they have a video thing and want to advertise club penguin. And club penguin said, "sure! Just give us the link and we'll do it!". Im wondering if that is legal or not. Please tell because if it is i dont want club penguin being sued for it because i like it a lot.- Call of duty 00:03, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  i have a question 

message: You know, if you guys put half the effort into trying to get the article back as you have in making pointless posts here, who knows, maybe you'd have the article back? For the third time, ask for a |deletion review if you want the article undeleted. There is no other way. Adding messages here does nothing towards your goal. Gwernol 03:42, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Gwernol is correct. Whining shall not bring the article back from the dead. Unless you whine with a good reason in the Deletion review. You may also want to check the reasons for deletion as to find out why the article was deleted, and perhaps learn how to convince the administrators as to why this article should be revived. I myself haven't seen the article before it was deleted, so if you manage to get the article back, make it good for all the casual readers out there who want to learn more about Club Penguin.
A few tips-
*Cheats are innapropriate in an encyclopedia.
*A Neutral Point of View is critical to an encyclopedia's article.
*Encyclopedia's usually do not include glitches or bugs unless notable.
*Do not vandalize the article you want back. I have noticed at least one of the people who want the article back has actually vandalized it. 
Abby724 22:29, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a way to read the article that was there before it got deleted? I'm really interested in what this article was about now. --JD[don't talk|email] 22:31, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Nope. Sorry. Even if you click the "History" tab of the article, you shall not find it archived in there. I too am interested in what this article looked like when it was still here. But apparently, we'll never know until a bunch of fans manage to revive the article. No clue when that will happen though. Abby724 22:39, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Getting the article back 

message: I say if they don't bring back our beloved article on "Club Penguin" lets commit mass sucide!!! I say bring it back or we shall all die of heart break, because our site is gone!!! - Little Spike 7:45pm EST, July 17th, 2006
:If you want the article back so badly, take it to WP:DRV.  Having a sook about it on here isn't going to get your beloved article back.  --JD[don't talk|email] 23:54, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Heartbreak is biologically impossible in that respect.  If you're that serious about wanting this article back, you would take the time to read WP:DRV.  --JD[don't talk|email] 00:10, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

text: If you love the article so much, show your love by reading WP:DRV. That's the only way that this article even stands a chance of being undeleted. --JD[don't talk|email] 00:19, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, you shouldn't be dying. Oh dear, clicking on the first subsection of the page is so exhausting. And reading two sentences is also exhausting. Well, if you do die, at least someone gets insurance money. It seems one of the Club Penguin fans actually had the guts to request for the article. And guess what? It seems they have answered his request. And if the whole article (WP:DRV) was pointless, then why hasn't it been deleted?Abby724 17:22, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the page doesn't look that bad.  It may have a bit of unnecessary content, but it looks good to me.  Could somebody give me the link to the AfD please?  --JD[don't talk|email] 17:30, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here you go: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Club Penguin Gwernol 17:37, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

text: By the way the article is completely unsourced and therefore unverifiable in addition to the points discussed in the AfD. Gwernol 17:39, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  That AfD is shorter than I pictured it to be.  Is sourcing the only major problem, or is it the whole WP:WEB thing as well?  --JD[don't talk|email] 17:41, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, you'd have expected all the people who are so concerned about its deletion to have expressed an opinion when this was debated, eh? Anyway, it was deleted for failing WP:WEB. The lack of sources was not discussed in the AfD though it certainly is an issue with the article. Most of the text would have to be sourced or removed if the article was reinstated. Gwernol 17:50, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well if all those people want the article back, they're gonna have to work for it I guess.  I know I wouldn't put my time and energy into an article I know nothing about.  --JD[don't talk|email] 11:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mass Sucide

message: This website surely deserves an article considering it has been at the top of the miniclip list for several weeks and is growing. The admins who refuse to tolerate the website on the grounds that it is "childish", are hurting nobody but themselves. Only wikipedia itself suffers when those with privileges abuse their power. If this continues, we will see what Wikipedia has clearly stated that it does not want. A separate class of editors who rule thorigh their powers and free speech is stifled.  Warfwar3 21:38, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened? 

message: The result of this AfD discussion was keep.  (aeropagitica)   (talk)   14:39, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The link in the title, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Club Penguin (third nomination), is the third AfD of this article.  Are you referring to something else?  talk to JD wants e-mail 22:32, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually there is still a problem. I try to explain it better this time.  If I go to the AFD page a click on the listing for Todady (August 25) the first AFD for this article (deleted March 23)is on that list but the one closed toady that was kept is not. I am not sure how to fix this so I was asking someone with more experience if they could remove the old AFD and put the one from today in its place. --Edgelord 22:53, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, thanks, I missed that. I've removed the old Club Penguin AfD from today's listing. The third one is still at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Log/2006_August_20#Club_Penguin. Although it closed today, it is listed on the August 20th. page since that is when it opened. AfDs always list on the page of the day they start on. I think everything is cleared up now but if you find anything else, let me know. Gwernol 23:04, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Club Penguin (third nomination)]] 

message: This is good that it is back and is only editible to old- wiki customers (like me)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Andyh2 (talk • contribs)  22:57, 29 August 2006 
*I think you forgot your <irony> markup. --Satori Son 01:03, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yay