Talk:Mary Garden

message: I have left a note for User:Ravenswing as follows:
I see you have left an 'unsourced' tag on the Mary Garden article despite the fact there is a sources section with three references. I am puzzled. Can you tell me why you put the tag? - Kleinzach 11:33, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps the problem was that the references weren't sufficiently related to the section tagged? Anyway I have now addressed this by adding some text. I've removed the tag. - Kleinzach 16:56, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mary Garden Unsourced Tag

message: was it 1874 or 1877 just for the record. When I first ran across Mary in opera books she was always listed as being born in 1877.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koplimek (talk • contribs) 20:50, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to every source I have found, she was born in 1874.Nrswanson (talk) 03:33, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Garden herself spread the (false) idea she was born in 1877, perhaps because in reality she had been born shortly after the marriage of her parents. --Kleinzach 06:00, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Mary Garden year of birth

message: It seems a number of inaccuracies have been introduced into this article. I've already referred to Mary's nationality being wrongly changed from Scottish to American (above). Here is a statement from the lead:
"She became a friend and close associate of Jules Massenet, in whose operas she excelled."
And here is Garden herself in her autobiography, pages 137-138:
"Chérubin brought me into contact with Massenet . . . I went twice a week to discuss the part with him. I'm afraid I never cared for Massenet . . . He hadn't the character I like in a man, and he hadn't the genius of Debussy, not by a long shot."
In fact, she had a much closer relationship with Debussy - a large part of her autobiography is about him. Perhaps it would be a good idea if Nrswanson reviewed the changes he's made to this article? (I don't have time now to go through it line by line pointing out the mistakes.) --Kleinzach 06:21, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: *I have merely repeated content in the sources available to me Kleinzach and have faithfully reproduced the content without copywriting. (even the supposed spelling error of Sybyl is how Grove spelled the name.) If you want to complain about errors blame the sources and not me. Rather than being a superior ass per  usual why don't you use your time to do something constructive like improve the article yourself.Nrswanson (talk) 06:39, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Uncivil.  --Kleinzach 07:02, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: *And you aren't? Your tone towards me is consistantly hostile and negative and has been for months. I've tried several times to work with you in a positive way but it doesn't seem to get any better. Frankly I am tired of being crapped on by you. Anyway my point stands, all of the content is in the sources which, though not flawless, are generally considered reliable. Also, I wouldn't use Garden's autobiography as a source. It's full of lies and exaggerations, a point several sources have pointed out. Just because she wrote that about Massenet doesn't mean it's accurate.Nrswanson (talk) 13:22, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: More inaccuracies

message: sirs..my mother know Mary Garden quite well in the fifties and early sixties..according to all who knew her she was a wonderful person..there was talk of her setting up a trust for kids from disadvantaged backgrounds..did it ever happen?..my mother and her seemed to enjoy each others company and would talk for hours..they met socialy a few times..the favourite eating place was Fullers at the top of Union Street, Aberdeen..it was regarded as a wee bit upper class..my mother was very upset when Mary died..i would like to think they were good friends..when my own mother died she had some items that didnt seem to fit in with my mums style..jewelery mostly..often wonder if Mary really was as generous as everyone said?..john watt.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.127.119.187 (talk) 08:46, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mary Gardens later years in Aberdeen.. 

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