Talk:Gaston (comics)

message: I have my doubts about the meaning of the 'R' in the old books. The french version of the article indicate that it's for "receuil" (collection).
Beeing french and having read a lots of spirou issues where gaston came from, I recall that the 'R' actualy stand for 'Redaction', ie the R albums are just the collection of the jokes that were added in the spirou issues and were supposed to take place at the Spirou redaction. The latter non-R album are still supposed to take place at the Spirou redaction, but all the reference are more or less hidden (and fantasio beeing replaced).
I'm not all too sure about this yet, but I'll try to confirm it.
Also, I might add that Gaston originaly appeared as a "job-less hero" arriving at spirou to find a job.
:This is very weird, considering most references I have seen are to R short for "ré-édition" (republication) Circeus 19:36, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: afair, originally, at least in Dutch, the first few albums of Gaston were published in half-format (about A5) -- a regular A4-sized album 'cut in half'. The later R1 through R4 albums contained the same gags as these eight 'half-size' albums. Therefore, 'receuil' seems plausible to me. -- Bakabaka 17:01, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The meaning of the 'R' edition 

message: — JIP | Talk 18:49, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  AfD result 

message: The name of the cop "Longtarin" means "Long Nose" in French Slang.
There is something ambigous concerning the location of all adventures in Franklin's works : sometimes you feel the action occures in Brussels or in any other place in Belgium, sometimes it may happen in Paris or elsewhere in France. For instance the cop wears a French uniform, the parking meter are French, even if you may find some clues that the present action happened in a Brussels street.
This situation is usual in the works of the Belgian comic school. 193.252.105.81 17:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, as the Spirou/Robbedoes redaction was in Brussels it would probably be Brussels (Belgium is also mentioned a lot, at least in the version we have here in The Netherlands which is the same as the Flemish version) but as Franquin lived in France (at least in the later period) he'd probably take more and more thing from the French daily life. Uhro87 16:19, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Here's some info from a fansite believing Gaston lives in Brussels:  . 惑乱 分からん 09:57, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GASTON LAGAFFE - Miscellaneous 

message: I have done some extensive work on this page as per above.  In the process of moving things around, I've actually removed the bit which details all Gaston's appearances in Spirou stories.  In my opinion this is a slightly obsessive level of details which makes sense on the French page but not so much on the English one.  If anyone disagrees however, feel free to reinstate all this into the "History" section.
The "albums" section is quite bulky; perhaps someone with a finer grasp than I of Wiki-wizardry can turn it into one of those sections that is hidden until you unfold it? 
I should add proudly that I am doing all this stuff from work, in true Gaston style, with the Explorer window resized to a tiny corner to avoid being spotted.  I like to think that Franquin would approve... Thermaland 10:37, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The work situation editing seems very appropriate. I'm not crazy about the revert you did to the languages as it feels un-MOS-like heavy on the boldface and random assembled (did you paste in from an old edit?). Also, you seem to describe the #Early appearances as if it's a transcription from the French article, but it isn't. It was written here and what you removed was essentially the only sourced section of the article, but f consensus is that the level of detail is obsessive then so be it. MURGH disc. 12:10, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Erm, yes I probably need to read up a bit on the Style Manual, sorry!  I think I just added some languages to the existing list, from the French article and imitated the existing format, but it's possible I messed it up.  I'm not that desperate to delete that section to be honest; I just couldn't be bothered to incorporate it into the new shape of the article and it didn't fit anymore as it was.  But I can put it back from the history; I really don't feel strongly agianst it.  Let's say it's temporarily out for refurbishing...Thermaland 16:34, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. It would need incorporation work now that the article begins with a beginning instead of the previous overwhelming character stuff. The intro isn't far off, and italics instead of bold for the most part would help. It's my opinion that there should be a mention of Jidéhem and Delporte somewhere in the lead too.. But all in all, nice work. MURGH disc. 17:12, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree. The spirit of the manual of style is that relevant foreign names are given in the intro. You rarely find french names in the intro of plant articles,do you? And most foreign tv series, films or books only list the original(s) titles and English ones (when one exists).Circeus 19:17, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not one to judge the languages (Circeus means cut all but French and Flemish?) I just italicised them for now. More boldly, I readded a refurbished Spirou apps section, and added the date in prep for when the world come to check if it's really his 50th birthday. MURGH disc. 19:37, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mind too much that they are in the intro. But they certainly shouldn't be bold.Circeus 23:38, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Right. Then we did agree. MURGH disc. 00:59, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Good work!  I really should have cleaned up my own mess there, so thanks for doing it.  Brussels is to have a day of free parking later this month to celebrate Gaston's 50th birthday, how cool is that? Thermaland 09:47, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it seems they'll do well by Franquin, the city of Brussels. The neutralized meters -or optional donations to go to charity- is a superb gesture. MURGH disc. 10:44, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article's evolution 

message: The part of the article about his first appearence ends with "and then seen two frames later, bruised and presumably the victim of police brutality". I never made that connection myself (though now that you mention it there is an annoyed-looking policeman nearby). I always figured his wounds were self-inflicted. He is, after all, going past a red light on his bike, into a crowded intersection, while trying to read a newspaper and smoke, all at the same time. 81.233.52.27 18:15, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You raise a valid point and maybe inferring the possibility of that from those two frames is a leap of WP:OR. I've been convinced the angry gendarme did it since I first saw it long ago, and never considered the possibility that Gaston's off-frame incident was his own fault. Murghdisc. 23:49, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been meaning to elaborate on my original note, but I've been putting it off. I guess there are two reasons why I assumed the wounds were self-inflicted: I didn't really notice the policeman, and - perhaps more importantly - wasn't his bike pretty badly smashed? That, to me, would suggest a traffic accident rather than a beating, but I don't have the second picture within reach at the moment. 62.181.255.64 08:39, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking again at it now you're quite right. The bike is curled in a way that makes the cop unlikely responsible. I'll remove that line and thanks for shattering a 15 year old mental warp ;)  Murghdisc. 18:43, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Victim of police brutality? 

message: Gaston Lagaffe
	Gaston Beiadeg
	Sergi Grapes
	Vakse Viggo
	Tomás el Gafe
	Viggo
	Gaston
	Şapşal Gazi
	Gomer Goof
I've seen similar solutions on other wikipedia and thought it might improve the article to lighten the intro from some of the big and not top-important "Gaston in various languages" paragraph. Not sure where it best fits in though. What do folk think about a substitution?  Murghdisc. 03:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggested lingotable

message: Apparently Lebrac is pronounced the same as French "Le braque", roughly "the crazy one", or the braque dog. It doesn't seem improbable that Franquin had the pun in mind, but does anyone have a source enough to avoid Original Research? 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * 00:21, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The same problem arose in Achille Talon (The hero himself, Hilarion Lefuneste, Vincent Poursan). Problem is, puns are (reasonably) obvious to native speakers, as in this case, but explaining the pun spoils it. Hence, it is extremely unlikely to find any reliable source, since no-one wants to spoil the fun by explaining the obvious. Kleuske (talk) 20:36, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Lebrac / Le braque?

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replies: text: The FUR has been adjusted to meet demands of WP:NFCC#10c. MURGH disc. 11:24, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
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message: I just realised that I introduced a mistake into this article last year when I did work on it: the series is called Gaston, not Gaston Lagaffe.  I can't believe I had the title wrong all this time! I've corrected this but really, seeing as the article is about the series not the character, it should really be renamed Gaston (comic).  Thoughts?  Thermaland (talk) 20:06, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't the standard form Gaston (comics)? 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 23:27, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, Gaston (comics) is the correct form. Fram (talk) 06:54, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

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message: I cannot post this as it requires corroboration. Having lived in Watermael, the same village as Franquin, between 1993 and 2011, it was common knowledge that a real Gaston, by then an elderly man dependant on a walking aid to get down to the local supermarket, was Franquin's inspiration. Needless to say, even his walking aid was decorated with Ferrari stickers and a real Ferrari hood decoration!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.199.188.142 (talk) 20:21, 29 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. It does require corroboration. Kleuske (talk) 10:40, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins of Gaston 

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