Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Peru/Archive 1

message: In an effort to help make things more easily understood, I'm cleaning up the Peru talkpage. I am not editing comments, but I am moving them around in format to clean them up a bit. I have removed a few sections that are out-of-date and useless, but if you feel they should be brought back, please copy past the section of interest, but do not revert this clean-up. If you have any comments or concerns, please contact me on my talkpage. Thanks! Pvt Mahoney 00:16, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bmahoney, I didn't know my request for comments on the History of the Ecuadorian-Peruvian territorial dispute article was "out-of-date" or "useless". On the contrary, you deleted an entire section about an article which needed to be locked and is in urgent need of attention, and should be there so other Peruvian wikipedians interested in history who come to this Wikiproject know about the issue. Could you please put the section back again? Thanks. Andres C. 01:15, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean-up 

message: There is an edit dispute on this page. Possibly some people of the Wikiproject may be interested in putting in their two cents.--Jersey Devil 11:22, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[List of political parties in Peru]]

message: I just realize that we went all this time with out adding soccer/football related articles to the Wikiproject! :)--Jersey Devil 19:22, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: lol, but is that important? I think History is far more interesting that sports (at least for this moment) Messhermit 20:18, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: We are idiots

message: I'm not even a member of this project, but I really dislike the state of Ronda Campesina.  The vast majority of the rondas were formed during the early 70s and had nothing to do with the MRTA/SL internal troubles.  The article doesn't reflect that.  As Orin Starn mentioned in his book about the Rondas, during the 80s there were several hundred thousand ronderos in Peru, and only maybe ten thousand senderistas.  Yet American socialogists and political scientists have focused on Sendero as the social movement in Peru.  The rondas were just as interesting, too, as they formed extra-judicial courts, clashed with the authorities at some times and worked with them at others, greatly reduced the number of thieves in the country side, and at times engaged in very questionable behavior.  --Descendall 14:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe what you are saying is true, but the most prominent role that they achieve was during the 80's and 90's: Supported by the government, they fought against Sendero and MRTA. Also, we must remember that as the article says, there were some parts of the country were the government was not present. Thus, it is reasonable to believe that they executed justice by their own hand against Sendero And MRTA. Messhermit 18:45, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I disagree, since it will try to diminish the role and impact that those groups have in the war against Sendero and MRTA. Also, regarding the name, most of the country recognise the term Rondas Campesinas with that meaning. Here is a link  that more or less integrates them to the rule of law, while this link  explains the fundamental role that they had in the defeat of Sendero. Messhermit 22:45, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Then maybe we should divide the article into North and South, don't you think? Maybe with that we can more or less present both meanings of the word. Messhermit 03:09, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rondas Campesinas

message: I am currently experiencing a problem with another editor on Wikipedia. I know that this doesn't directly involve Peru-related articles but it prevents me from focusing much of my time on these articles. You are welcome to comment on my talk page about this (and naturally I do not expect you to automatically take my side nor do I want you to do so).--Jersey Devil 23:09, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Problem on Wikipedia

message: Just thought I let you guys know I expanded Ramón Castilla's article by translating information largely from the Spanish version. It might need an extra revision so as to correct any typos, dates or wrong events in their chronological order which any of you might know better. Any suggestions are welcomed :) --Dynamax 02:12, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice work, needs sources though.--Jersey Devil 16:50, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ramón Castilla

message: :I've added a new "Campaign" section on the Peruvian national election, 2006 page, it's likely to be the most subjective section, so I would like people to participate. Feel free to add, change or delete whatever you want, but keep it relevant and NPOV, of course. Also, if there is some kind of accusation against a candidate, make sure to make it clear that it's just an accusation. Thanks all. --Gabbec 07:43, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Peruvian national election, 2006

message: Is anyone else having trouble viewing the images for the "selected article", "selected biography", and "The Peru Portal" boxes?--Jersey Devil 14:36, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They seem to work as of the 4th. Pvt Mahoney 19:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Portal:Peru|Peru Portal]] Pics

message: Hello. I'm a member of the Version 1.0 Editorial Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing articles using these criteria, and we are are asking for your help. As you are most aware of the issues surrounding your focus area, we are wondering if you could provide us with a list of the articles that fall within the scope of your WikiProject, and that are either featured, A-class, B-class, or Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Do you have any recommendations? If you do, please post your suggestions at the listing of all active Places WikiProjects, and if you have any questions, ask me in the Work Via WikiProjects talk page or directly in my talk page. Thanks a lot! Titoxd(?!? - help us) 07:09, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team|Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team]] cooperation

message: I'm not sure if anyone has noticed but the GDP per capita is listed as $6000 while the total GDP is lited as 168.9 Billion. If you do the math considering the recent national census the GDP per capita is actually $6424 based on that information. I am going to change this but if anyone has any reason to think that my assumption is infactual just contact me.
Vivaperucarajo 19:27, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistant GDP information 

message: I just made the initial entry at CPN Radio. Can't believe this didn't have an entry until now. You guys can add to it if you want.--Jersey Devil 03:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: CPN Radio

message: Isn't the title of Andean Renaissance suppose to be "Andean Rebirth" as Renacimiento Andino translates to that?--Jersey Devil 19:20, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Andean Renaissance?

message: As choosen by the last vote, this month's collaboration will be Andrés de Santa Cruz. You should also note that voting is open now for the July collaboration and will be closed and cleared by the end of this month...so make sure to get your votes in before the closing period. Good luck on the Santa Cruz article guys.--Jersey Devil 05:59, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: June and July Collaboration

message: Jersey Devil and I were having a small discussion in the Radio Programas del Perú talk page about translating the names of companies like this to English and move the articles there. I tend not to like translating proper names, but there are good reasons behind it (I don't know if there is an official policy about this). In some cases, translations can be cumbersome and inadequate. Both of us would probably cringe if someone moved El Comercio to The Commerce or something like that, for instance, but there are cases where it's probably better to translate. Should we have some kinds of policy for Peru-related articles, or leave it to individual cases? Any thoughts? --Gabbec 20:40, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Title translations

message: Please see this.--Jersey Devil 21:05, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Peru Presidents Template

message: Hi. User:Jersey Devil asked me if I could help out on this portal, and so I have done some preliminary changes. Feel free to revert anything you don't like :). Briefly:
*I have added a topics box
*I have cleaned up the news section, and introduced an archive
*I have made the portal look more balanced
Stuff to do:
*Make articles on all the red links in the topics box (this is not as bad as it looks, as most of them already are covered on Peru itself, but have no articles of their own)
*Add archives for the selected picture, article and biography (easy)
*The selected picture needs an image credit
*Choose some new articles for those sections, if possible, and no offence intended, try to find something better than an airport :)
*Update the Did You Know section (what does "in the Selva you can enjoy hard excursions?" mean?)
*Choose some background colours for the bit that covers the Arts | Biography | Geography etc. bit (if you want)
*Something I have never got around to: make a montage of famous Peruvians as a background to the portal title (see Portal:Food) - totally optional
*If you are still bored, you could look through and rate a few articles (I found a very natty image you could use as your logo in the Spanish Wikipedia, although your current one is also very cool):
50px
ADDED:*Intro box needs map of country (and probably coat of arms) and, although a welcome message is acceptable, needs to briefly describe Peru (think of it like a lead section in an article).
I hope you find these points helpful, and, as I say, they are only suggestions. --Estrellador* 10:59, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for responding. By any chance, do you get the same problem I do when viewing the portal that when you scroll down some of the content in the "main" box (the one at the very top) seems to have its text disappear? Anyway, one of the things I like about Portal:Latin America is the blue background color with the yellow border. I think our portal could use something like that with different colors to match the Peruvian national colors. Maybe a "Quote of the Week" box would be good to.--Jersey Devil 15:52, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I use Opera and don't have that problem. I can help out with the background thing; I just need to find a model. It depends on if you want a border on the outside, as well as the awkward fact that one of Peru's two colours is white, so it won't be very obvious. I have added a red line around the outside; the coding I used is taken from the Latin American one, and should be self-explanatory. --Estrellador* 16:27, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Concerning the background, the color of the background inside the boxes is actually not white but a "whitish" shade of red. Perhaps if we made that a little more darker to set it apart from the white background it would look better.--Jersey Devil 18:05, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I was asked, and so I have tried to help 

message: HOW do I join the WikiProject Peru? --Walter Humala 02:02, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just add your name to the list of participants right at the top of the Wikipedia:WikiProject Peru--Jersey Devil 02:30, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New member 

message: Now that it seems that we have some project members actively viewing this discussion page I thought I'd bring up the fact that Collaboration efforts have been in decline as of late. If we want to keep this project active we have to have involved members that at least participate in voting for the monthly collaboration.--Jersey Devil 19:35, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Collaboration

message: I've just translated various articles related to Peruvian presidents from Spanish Wikipedia, some short and some long. There are still various articles in need of creation and marked with red under the presidents list. I've taken the time to review some of the first on the list which might be obvious to those of you who look at it often. You might also want to check them for facts and/or fix any innacuracies so far. I will try to continue contributing doing these translations every other day if time allows. --Dynamax 15:36, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We have a Translation Project for translated articles. You should put the articles you did on there and add any other articles you want translated there.--Jersey Devil 07:33, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Translations from Spanish Wikipedia

message: There seems to be a formatting problem on the Peru Portal, for some reason all the boxes on the right (the news box and such) keep on going all the way down.--Jersey Devil 05:36, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you still see that problem? What browser are you using, it looks OK to me with both Firefox and IE. The Portal used to look bad on my Firefox, that's why I ask. --Gabbec 03:07, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I use IE and yeah it seems to be good now. I don't know what is going on, it has been doing that on and off recently.--Jersey Devil 03:49, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Peru Portal Problem

message: I can not find a page for the Peruvian Golden Tumi (i.e., the golden artifact ). Spanish Wikipedia doesn't seem to have it either . I'd think something of this importance would definately have already had a page, especially in Spanish Wikipedia. Maybe I'm doing something wrong?--Jersey Devil 23:04, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, there should be a page, or at least a section elsewhere. Does anyone know enough about it to write a decent stub at least? --Gabbec 04:41, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Tumi]]