Talk:Jon Corzine

message: please update  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.182.1.4 (talk) 13:54, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Here we are: it says here in the Governor of New Jersey article that Corzine's term began on January 17, 2006 and continues until January 19, 2010. Chris Christie has been elected to replace Corzine as governor; he assumes office on January 20, 2010. --203.58.0.142 (talk) 23:49, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Former governor

message: Donald DiFrancesco and Richard Codey are now officially titled Governor, rather than Acting Governor.  —chair lunch dinner™ (talk)
:True, thus Corzine will be the 54th Governor of New Jersey rather than the 52nd. — FREAK OF NURxTURE ([ TALK]) 11:12, Jan. 14, 2006
::Are you sure about the numbering? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aronk (talk • contribs) 13:56, Jan 14, 2006 (UTC)
:::This press release confirms it. —chair lunch dinner™ (talk) 20:39, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Title of Acting Governor

message: I moved the paragraph around a bit  moving the cut to the Governor's School of New Jersey to the end of the paragraph and removing "one of his most controversial cuts..." that came before it. The reason is because I think most New Jersey residents would agree that his most "controversial" part of his budget has been to raise the sales tax and with regards to cuts there are several cuts to unique programs which have been considered "controversial" and I do not see what is different about this program.--Jersey Devil 10:53, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Acts section and cuts

message: The breaks are major and pose more risk of death than for hip replaecment where people his age sometimes die.  That's the reason Codey asked for prayers.  While doctors publicly say they expect him to recover, they also stress how difficult and long it would be.  They are downplaying the risk of death in the ensuing surgeries.  Please have a doctor or med student with expertise give a cite or referenced idea as to how serious the injuries reported typically are.  Thanks. Chivista 20:06, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Seriousness of the surgery

message: Do we need that? I'm wary of PoV blogSPAM showing up here, especially with the recent budget buissiness... 68.39.174.238 01:13, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it.--Jersey Devil 22:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Corzinewatch"? 

message: Isn't he a Methodist? Also, what template can we use to reflect his Senate service as well? Biruitorul 02:27, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Afterward, Corzine rolled down Route 1, navy pin-striped jacket off, toward his next stop, the Islamic Society of Central Jersey, where he delivered a talk about genocide in Sudan. During the Q&A, one man got up and said, “We are all human beings. All of us together, as people. I am a Muslim, you are Jewish . . . ” Corzine’s neck and face turned red, but he let the man finish talking.
“Actually,” Corzine said to him finally, with a slightly awkward smile, “I’m a Methodist.” "  from here:  http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/politics/12194/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.5.79.18 (talk) 23:45, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion, infobox

message: I work for the America's Most Wanted Safety Center, a new branch of America's Most Wanted getting away from the capturing of criminals, and branching out to all aspects of safety. I feel a link to our post about Jon Corzine's crash would be appropriate and mutually beneficial, particularly because it includes a filmed interview with him about the crash.  The link is http://www.amw.com/safety/?p=61 please consider it.
Jrosenfe 14:29, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Adding a link

message: I'd just like to point out that this article has very weak coverage of Corzine's job as CEO of Goldman Sachs. --JHP 07:24, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Weak coverage of his position as CEO of Goldman Sachs

message: This article got me interested in joining the wiki community, I think there's a lot that can be added to this page, and glad there's so many people that are interested...i'm a former nyc resident that now has roots in new jersey.  --NYcThUgg 02:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We can go into more detail, although WP:BLP might frown on airing that scandal in this article; but giving a high-paying job to your unqualified lover is corrupt. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:32, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Interested

message: I was upset to see that the section i started on controversy for the good govenor of new jersey was deleted.  The information i posted was hopefully a beginning to some of the more controversial business dealings that he is specfically involved.  My information was well cited and confirmed by the govenor.  Does anyone have a problem with me reposting some truth?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by NYcThUgg (talk • contribs) 12:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a problem with you posting information contrary to Wikipedia policy. In theory, I am not opposed to a "Controversy" section for this page. But I am opposed to any section that gives undue weight to any aspects of Governor Corzine. The "Controversy" section you had included had one point: a gift from Governor Corzine to a man named Rocco Riccio, the brother-in-law of the Governor's former girlfriend and a former state employee. I do not dispute the story; I dispute the weight and prominence given in the section. If you truly wanted to create a verifiable, well-sourced section on the controversies of the Governor, then go right ahead. But to present this one event as the entire controversy section - to give this one relatively minor event with a small dollar amount involved such prominence - is the definition of undue weight. Wikipedia requires editors "to treat each aspect with a weight appropriate to its significance to the subject" and applies that standard to, among other things, "depth of detail, quantity of text, prominence of placement, and juxtaposition of statements." Your edit failed those requirements; that is why I deleted it. JasonCNJ 14:35, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree with everything you wrote, however, it was my intention to post and hopefully either myself or others in the community add additional stories, which anyone who knows Corzine or New Jersey, is filled with controversy.  A simple $15,000 is nothing to the estimated $6 million he gave his ex-girlfriend Carla Katz, who is the leader of the largest union in New Jersey.  To delete the entire section without even making comments in this discussion area, which was my belief of what the area is for, was a little surprising.  You would have to agree that this transaction and story is controversy, where else would this story reside?  Or should we just not mention it, or any other controversy?  --NYcThUgg 17:19, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I added most of the references in the article to bring it to WP:GA status.  Much of the text is artifacts from prior editorial work.  Everything that I added was fairly neutral stuff from Time, Newsweek, etc.  Anyone is free to revise the text as is appropriate.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM)  04:01, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversy section deleted

message: In amny places this page reads as though it had been edited by the campaign publicist of an election opponent.Mrs Tilton (talk) 12:49, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I added most of the references in the article to bring it to WP:GA status.  Much of the text is artifacts from prior editorial work.  Everything that I added was fairly neutral stuff from Time, Newsweek, etc.  Anyone is free to revise the text as is appropriate.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM)  04:01, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality?

message: Someone slapped a  tag on a section and never came here to explain why.  I am going to remove it.  If you want to replace it give me an argument.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM)  05:19, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A section was tagged as POV.  I am here to discuss examples. Generalities don't help much.--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTM)  23:29, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV Section

message: I have a problem with this sentence.  It's not factually inaccurate, but it does create the impression that he got out of state residents to vote for him in the election (a felony).
I propose the following sentence, "Corzine bussed in residents of Philadelphia homeless shelters and halfway houses to work on turnout efforts."
Makes the situation a bit clearer. If anyone thinks I'm overreacting please let me know.
The rest of the article has a slight anti-Corzine hue, but I don't care enough about the man to do anything more than this.
59.38.32.9 (talk) 05:57, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Corzine bussed in Philadelphia homeless shelter and halfway house residents to help boost turnout"

message: Is the fact that  (Governor of New Jersey) has participated in several meetings of the Bilderberg Group significant enough for inclusion in his biographical page and for him to be added to :category:Bilderberg Attendees? —Teahot (talk) 10:37, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Support given the significance of the Bilderberg group (and the people who attend), it is relevant. Therefore as long as the sources are mentioned somewhere in the article, and are credible, I say it should be mentioned. A category seems reasonable, but perhaps redundant given the existence of a list of Bilderberg participants article already. --Rebroad (talk) 16:42, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Oppose including Corzine in such a category, or mentioning his Bilderberg attendance in the article. I checked the first six people in List of current United States governors, and none of them is included in a category regarding their attendance at a meeting, any kind of meeting. The importance to their lives and careers of any particular type of meeting attendance would need to be shown. Bilderberg-related information should probably be kept only in the Bilderberg Group article until such time as the press starts to consider it very  important. The Davos conferences are much better known than the Bilderberg meetings, and being invited to Davos is an honor, yet we don't seem to record Davos attendance in any biographical articles. EdJohnston (talk) 23:48, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The Davos meetings are a good comparison, though I think you are incorrect about the press not considering it 'very important'. Due to the secretive nature of the Bilderberg conferences there has been significant press interest in the past and more recently (for example the series of articles about this year's conference in the Guardian). Try googling "Davos Meeting" and "Bilderberg Group", the Bilderberg Group wins hands down for public interest. To demonstrate press interest I've run a quick search for major printed newspaper articles in the last few weeks and here are some matches from the top of the list just to show how many different publications have shown interest (i.e. articles not just one line diary mentions; I stopped at 10): The Sunday Independent (South Africa), June 14, 2009; The New Zealand Herald, June 1, 2009; The Observer (England), May 31, 2009; Pittsburgh Tribune Review, May 31, 2009; The Miami Herald, May 26, 2009; The New York Post, May 25, 2009; Variety, May 25, 2009; The Village Voice (New York), May 20, 2009; The Times (London), May 16, 2009; The Mirror, May 15, 2009.—Teahot (talk) 09:36, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Comment A similar issue was raised on Talk:Peter Mandelson#Bilderberg Group and WP:BLPN#Peter Mandelson, where the consensus so far has been to add his Bilderberg participation to the article.—Teahot (talk) 11:21, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Note:  I mentioned this discussion at WP:BLPN#Peter Mandelson.  I see this category has very recently been added to a number of other articles as well, and I think it can be anticipated that the number of discussions of the same subject (currently at least three) is only going to grow.  Wouldn't it make sense to have one discussion, in one centralized place?  (I am not sure where that would be.)  Neutron (talk) 20:05, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Comment:  I think the real question here is, why is it important that these people attend these meetings?  I have yet to see a clear answer to that, other than one that is based on the idea that these meetings result in decisions being made that create an influence unknown to the general public.  I actually was barely aware of the Bilderberg group until I saw this and read the article about it, and the idea that these meetings are important and influential are termed "conspiracy theories."  I don't see how one can regard the governor's participation as particularly important, unless one buys into those theories.  Neutron (talk) 20:12, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The best clear example of the importance of this meeting, without it being seen as some sort of conspiracy, is the example given in an interview with Denis Healey where David Owen used it as a forum to promote sanctions against Argentina when he would not have publicly spoken to these nations in a "formal" capacity. Sanctions were later taken and Healey considered Owen's speech at this meeting highly influential. The source is given at David Owen#Social Democratic Party and Liberal-SDP Alliance.—Teahot (talk) 23:56, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

text: A separate comment:  Teahot, I read your statement of the issue at the RFC page, where you say the issue is whether the category should be added to this page.  I think a more fundamental issue is whether the category (which you created yesterday) should exist at all.  I don't see how it adds to the sum of human knowledge to have a sign on the bottom of the page for everybody who ever went to one of these meetings -- unless the meetings really do rule the world, but I see no evidence of that.  Neutron (talk) 20:19, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: With respect to the category, it has been discussed on my talk page with the beginnings of a rationale for the benefit for it existing in addition to the current List of Bilderberg participants. I would welcome further comments there, particularly with regard to a better category name.—Teahot (talk) 23:18, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Support inclusion It seems to be reliably sourced information, and, conspiracy theories aside, the social networks of important people are a valid item of interest in their biographies, particularly when these networks attain a high profile. RayTalk 20:45, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: RFC Bilderberg Group participation

message: I propose creating a separate public opinion section. I think it would better serve the purposes of providing a summary of public opinion on the Corzine administration.  I am aware that there is currently public opinion information included in the "Governor" section, but it would be easily integrated in to the new section.  Additionally, I propose adding a graph that would visually depict Gov. Corzine's approval and disapproval ratings.Mkrayton (talk) 20:05, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Public Opinion Section/ Public Opinion Summary 

message: Yes he is categorized as ceo and chairman of goldman saks, but he was also the ceo and chairman of MF Global so this is not redundant? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jon_Corzine&action=historysubmit&diff=459069902&oldid=459059664 Ottawahitech (talk) 01:15, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a parent category. Per category guidelines, only the most specific category should be added, not all the parents in its hierarchy. Fat&Happy (talk) 16:52, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories for CEOs and chairmen 

message: Can somebody please update the JC Flowers section?  The article states that Corzine became a partner in JC Flowers in 2010, but isn't that very old information?  I thought they had a falling out over the MF Global debacle.  Can someone please update the situation/relationship between Corzine and Flowers?  Thanks in advance.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Betathetapi545 (talk • contribs) 04:38, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corzine and Christopher Flowers 

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message: Should :File:SenatorJonCorzine (cropped).jpg be used in the infobox instead of the current image, :File:Governor portrait hr.jpg? The current image doesn't have clear source information. Wikiacc (¶) 15:05, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image in infobox