Talk:Slovak Republic (1939–1945)

message: Most of the Slovak Jews, deported to Poland in 1942 were in fact murdered in the Operation Reinhard death camps Belzec and Sobibór; smaller groups were deported also to Auschwitz and its subsidiary camps. Most of the victims gassed immediately upon arrival perished however in the Action Reinhard death camps; there were whole transports, usualy of 1.000 victims per train, that were doomed to certain death, because in Belzec and Sobibór, no selections of labor-able and labor-unfit people were conducted, as is known from Auschwitz later; instead, the whole transports were gassed at once immediately upon arrival, sometimes with an exception of a few dozens of young, strong men who were temporary preserved from death to be forced to conduct the horrible tasks of a jewish Sonderkommando in the death camp.
It is worth mention, that the Slovak State Government actually paid the Third Reich 100, or 500 (I'm not sure about the exact sum, it was either a 100 or 500,--) Reichsmark for every jewish person, deported from Slovak territory into Nazi-Occupied territories in this early stage of deportations, which is a particularly awful aspect of the Slovak Holocaust. I'm not aware of any other Government anywhere, that would pay the Third Reich for disposing of their own jewish people. 
Later, in summer and autumn 1944, most of the further deportees were transferred to Auschwitz-Complex camps and selectioned into those doomed to be gassed immediately and those forced to labor in the concentration camps.--84.163.127.40 10:16, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After Tuka managed to settle an agreement with German diplomatic and SS officials, that none of the Jews will ever return. You mean this was ment to be a vocational retraining? Of women, elderly and children, which constitued a significant proportion of 1942 deportations? And that SS-Sturmbannführer Dieter Wisliceny, directly negotiating with Tuka in late 1941/early 1942 was making any misconceptions that the Jews would not be deported to concentration camps and settled in countryside in the east instead? Not even going to mention the treatment of imprisoned Jews in slovak transitory concentration camps (like that in Sered or Nitra, heard of it?) before their deportation by the auxiliary Hlinka Guards. These men (HGs in ranks of soldiers, NCOs and middle-level officiers) knew, what is going to happen with the deportees. So, and their direct and indirect superiors, e.g. Sano Mach didn't, yes? Well...--84.163.112.206 (talk) 20:56, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The fate of Slovak Holocaust Victims. 

message: As discussed ([]) already in the Slovak National Uprising article discussion, SS-StbF Hermann Höfle wasn't in charge of the troops suppressing the SNU and occupying thereafter the territory. It was SS-OgruF and General of the Waffen-SS Hermann Höffle (whose name is obviously easily confused with the former). I therefore change the wikilink (article about SS-OgruF H. Höffle doesn't exist to date, nevertheless). Cheers.--84.163.112.206 (talk) 21:06, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  German occupation commanders 

message: Please, everyone and whoever: I changed the link to the coat of arms' picture used on the slovak version site, but its colours are different (more bright). I do not dare to change the flag's link also. Instead I'm asking some skillfull well-doer: please, try to alternate the picture! As you can see, it really IS a DIFFERENT coat of arms...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.213.138.3 (talk) 10:54, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Coat of Arms of the first Slovak Republic 

message: Oficial anthem was not ,,Nad tatrou sa blýska",  but panslavic Samuel Tomasik´s song - ,,Hej Slováci"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.40.34.174 (talk) 15:40, 20 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No, though this is a common belief, the official anthem was "Nad tatrou sa blýska". "Hej Slováci" was generally favored by the leaders, but it was unofficial. As it says in Hey Slovaks: "In Slovakia, the song 'Hey, Slovaks' has been considered the unofficial song of the Slovaks throughout its modern history, especially at times of revolutions. Although after the First World War the song 'Nad Tatrou sa blýska' became the official Slovak anthem in Czechoslovakia and then again in 1993 in the independent Slovak Republic, 'Hey Slovaks' is still considered a 'second' anthem by many (usually more nationalist) people. Contrary to popular assumptions, however, it was not the official anthem of the wartime Slovak Republic (1939–1945), but it was greatly favored by the ruling party (Slovakia's official anthem remained 'Nad Tatrou sa blýska' during that period)." This is confirmed by what I have been able to find in sources. Good Ol’factory (talk) 01:53, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong anthem of Slovak Republic 

message: Slovakia was not recognised officially by United Kingdom - only consular relations were established on May 4 1939 - i.e. only de facto recognition, not de iure. Backing 'British recognition' by this is pure falsification of history.--195.113.8.138 (talk) 08:53, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: have added a section on diplomatic recognition, which hopefully sheds some more light on the issue. As to the specific question discussed, Britain de facto recognized Slovakia between May and September 1939. Between September 1939 and July 1940 the UK position was somewhat hazy (Slovakia was declared under German occupation, but the former Czechoslovak legation in London was not recognized formally). In July 1940 Britain officially recognized the Czechoslovak government on exile, which terminated the ambiguous situation and of course stood for non-recognition of Slovakia --89.64.67.19 (talk) 07:22, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Recognition' by Britain

message: the whole page should be called Slovak State as this was the first official name of the country. moreover, everybody knows this short-lived country under this name and this is much more widely used than first slovak republic. "slovak republic" is definitely related to the current country, not the WWII one.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dusoft (talk • contribs) 00:08, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  slovensky stat/slovak state 

message: As it stands this is very badly written since it implies that they named the republic in 1939 in anticipation of the country that exist today. 88.90.43.140 (talk) 03:03, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The section Name. 

message: The article Slovakia during World War II seems to cover basically the same scope of topics and events, and the same time period chronologically, as this article. Not sure why it has its own article; maybe someone could argue for why they're separate? It seems that Slovak participation in/activities during WWII should be comprehensively covered in a discussion of a Slovak state and government that came about primarily as a result of German intervention, as this article purports to be. Incidentally, the Slovakia during World War II article suffers from a total lack of references and generally poor quality, both of which could be rectified through the process of merging it into this article. smf (talk) 22:39, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: See Talk:Field Army Bernolák#Wrong? Herostratus (talk) 03:19, 12 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  So what's the deal? 

message: For a non-historian, this article does not immediately make clear precisely what the Slovaks centered in their rear-view mirror.  Their half of the Czecho-Slovakia union?  Their purported leanings toward Hungary?  Ominous influence from Poland?  It really wouldn't hurt this account to treat "declare independence" as taking a specific object. Had Quebec left Canada, it wouldn't have done so by declaring independence; it would have done so by declaring sovereignty. I'm not so clear on this mushy concept of "independence" that the terms should be left implicit. — MaxEnt 01:51, 18 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Declare independence from what exactly? 

message: The article contains text The majority of the Allies of World War II never recognized the existence of Slovak state. The only exception was Soviet Union... In the list of states recognizing it is also El Salvador, that was one of the allies. Either it did not recognize Slovakia or Soviet Union was one of the two. - Melilac (talk) 20:45, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversy

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Shouldn't "Fascist Slovakia" serve as a redirect to this page? (66.215.84.193 (talk) 03:54, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fascist Slovakia 

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message: Some comments from this uninformed reader based on the "Name" section:
# The section appears to deal only with usage within Slovakia, both contemporary and later. What about usage 
## in Nazi Germany and its other allies
## among anti-regime [Czecho-]Slovak exiles
## among the Allied powers
## among neutrals, the League of Nations, etc
# Did nobody at the time call the state "Slovakia"? 
jnestorius(talk) 17:58, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name