Talk:Lincolnshire

message: what about more photos, if we can, Dupont?
we need some poor hapless fool to drive round lincolnshire taking photos of every village...........
Lincolnshire Poacher — Preceding undated comment added 19:16, 28 March 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent idea - sadly I can't be the fool as I only spend 48 hours a year in the county and I'm not spending my Christmas with my parents driving to Old Bolingbroke!  I don't have any photos really from when I lived there as when you live somewhere you don't tend to take photos. Dupont Circle 19:37, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth I can contribute a pic of Harmston soon. Nick Fraser 19:48, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You can use the ones from Geograph. Just look at the Ropsley page to see what I did there. Ben 2082 (talk) 16:06, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  photos 

message: Not really sure that the "Speed Cameras of Lincolnshire" warrants a category mention on the top level Lincolnshire page. Unless other people feel that speed cameras are a quintessential feature of the county I vote for moving this somwhere. Do others agree? Nick Fraser 17:52, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree.  Speed cameras are everywhere.  I'd just delete the entire section Dupont Circle 18:09, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I disagree, unless your going to have a page on speed cameras. Speed Cameras were trialled in Lincolnshire, and Lincolnshire has more speed cameras than anywhere else. They have caused a huge controversy in the County, especially as they were introduced first because Linconshire has the highest number of most dangerous roads in the UK, and the highest death rate, so yes, Speed Cameras are a essential feature of this county. 193.131.115.253 09:44, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In which case you need to take what you've just written and turn it into a paragraph on the high levels of road deaths in the county Dupont Circle 06:33, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi 193.13.115.253 (it's better if you have a Wikipedia login, gives you more editorial clout). I agree that there are interesting and relevant things to say about speeding, cameras, road deaths in the context of Lincolnshire, it's just that I don't think it's top level entry - this should be reserved for broad topics (such as Geography, History, References, etc.) otherwise we risk the top level page becoming bogged down in detail. I propose creating a subsection of the Geography section called Transport Networks (or an entirely new section called Transport if people prefer?) and we can use this area to talk about issues to do with rail and road in the county. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nickfraser (talk • contribs) 12:36, 6 April 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Speed Cameras

message: I've expanded the Geography section a bit - it is still far from satisfactory. When I have time I will try and bring it up to standard, make it punchy and concise and separate some of the material into a linked 'Geography of Lincolnhshire' linked page. In the meantime, please improve and add to this, particularly the subregions (currently incomplete). Forgive me for not finishing this off properly, simply ran out of time. Nick Fraser 19:38, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: good edit, nice section. Lincolnshire Poacher 21:52, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geography Section 

message: where did you get the date of 1869 as the start of the Lincolnshire Show? I hope your not confusing it with the Lincoln Cattle Market...........my ancestors won a cup at the third Lincolnshire Show (for the 'best pen of 100 breeding sows'!)
Lincolnshire Poacher 21:32, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm happy to be corrected if I'm wrong  Dupont Circle 22:42, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, im not saying ur wrong, i thought it started later, but you may be right. I was just interested where u got the info — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lincspoacher (talk • contribs) 16:33, 11 April 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Reading the lincolnshire show website this years show (2006) was the 122nd show, if they had one show a year then the first show would of been in 1884 (15 years after the society formed in 1869) i'm currently reading the website to see if there is any 'start year' claims on the website. SimonD 21:40, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  There is a good chance that the show was not held during the first and second world war, and perhaps during F&M outbreaks. Brunnian (talk) 12:37, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Lincolnshire Show

message: In Westfall's biography, 
:Isaac Newton came from Lincolnshire and had time for any of his 'countrymen' who were travelling in London, during his time as Master of the Mint. 
My question: What is the word for a fellow Lincolnshire resident?. Once I know it, I can put this into his article. To me, it does not matter if they did not use the term during Newton's time; it only matters that the term is from Lincolnshire. I would like to include such a sentence as a humanizing fact for the Isaac Newton article. Thank you, Ancheta Wis 00:16, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure that humanising of that sort is appropriate for a Wikipedia article, and putting in a later slang term like "yellowbelly" would surely be inappropriate.  There's no useful term, so far as I know — but then, there isn't for most counties.  When it sounds OK, one can stick "man" or "woman" on the end of the county name (or derived adjective), as in "Yorkshireman" or "Cornishman", but it's clumsy with "Lincolnshire".  Westfall's sentence is also rather clumsy, incidentally: he had time for them during his time... --Mel Etitis  (Μελ Ετητης) 09:02, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  What do you call a fellow resident of Lincolnshire? 

message: See here: BBC
David 13:41, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: or visit LincolnshireFlag.co.uk here: — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.133.255.34 (talk) 13:31, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm no expert but the image on the BBC site doesn't appear to be copyright, maybe it can be used here ? 160.5.247.213 10:58, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure that the flag is "official" in any meaningful way, being a marketing stunt dreamed up by a glossy magazine.  --Brunnian 00:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag 

message: I have been reading the article (I'm from Lincolnshire), and I don't think the distinction between the two is made clear enough, and I am not sure which the article is actually about, as surely some stuff only applies to one or the other.
I'm not sure how to improve it though, so I am looking for suggestions.
John 11:48, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this is an issue I also have. The Lincolnshire-Geo-Stub is being added to locations in North Lincolnshire, which is a separate county (unitary authority). Asterion talk to me 11:55, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there much point in making the distinction between Lincolnshire, North Lincolnshire and North East Lincolnshire in terms of this stub?  The latter two are a fairly recent invention and the flag on the stub is used across the entire (Ceremonial) county. --Bedders 12:20, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've always been of the opinion that three separate articles are needed: for Lincolnshire (administrative), Lincolnshire (ceremonial) and Lincolnshire (traditional). That way the information specific to each can all be kept separate and the main Lincolnshire article can link to all three. Owain (talk) 12:52, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we are doing well with the  template labelled as Ceremonial county. This way it can also be used for N Lincs and NE Lincs, which to be honest makes more sense than labelling them with . I don't really know what would the best thing to do be regarding the geo-stubs. There aren't too many N and NE Lincs stubs to warrant a separate one. Maybe Lincolnshire-Geo-Stub description should be changed to cover Lincolnshire county and the two unitary authorities (I haven't checked it recently, maybe already done).  --E  Asterion u talking to me? 00:25, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ceremonial/non-metropolitan county

message: The use of while in the sense of "until" is given as an example of a peculiarly or characteristically Lincolnshire usage.  In fact it is also common in my native Lancashire and I suspect it is known throughout those parts of England which were exposed to Old Norse influence.
EdwinGreenwood 12:56, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. Yes, I don't think this particular to Lincolnshire, I've heard 'while' used in this sense by people in South Yorkshire too (though not West or North Yorkshire). Nick Fraser 07:17, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Not in South Lincolnshire, it's not, though... --86.130.9.237 00:29, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How do you define South Lincolnshire? We used to call them pikelets in Boston. SMeeds 09:54, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They were Pikelets in Castle Bytham in the '60s and '70s.  Still are in Stamford, at least in Asker's bakery.   --Brunnian 23:54, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language 

message: Is http://www.extremehorizon.com/ a suitable site for the lincolnshire entry? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polymorp (talk • contribs) 20:08, 25 Septebmer 2006 (UTC)
: I don't think so. -- Lee Stanley 23:20, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I feel the same about http://www.lincolnshirehairandbeauty.com/ -- Brunnian (talk) 15:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weblinks 

message: Is there a reason there is no mention of  Percy Grainger's masterpiece Lincolnshire Posy?  It's a pretty famous composition of his.  I actually stumbuled upon this article looking for the piece =P --Kevin 05:04, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lincolnshire Posy?

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message: The pages for the villages in Lincolnshire really need a lot of work. Maybe we could do something with local newspapers or something, to get people to write an article for their village and then we could just post them up here? Just an idea. Ben 2082 (talk) 16:05, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Villages Needs a Lot of Work 

message: I'm a bit worried about the table in section 2.2 'Services and Retail'.  The list to the iggi web site is broken, and the article does not say what this is a ranking of.  Is it sales volume, number of boarded up shops, level of shoplifting, number of retail outlets, average door width for wheelchair users, number of shops painted yellow?  I can't tell.  Brunnian (talk) 14:21, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have marked the link as dead for now, but I agree that it gives no clue as to what the list represents. May be there is an archived copy of the page available that will help. Keith D (talk) 15:34, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Services and Retail' is a meaningless list 

message: I think that we need to add some details of the counties representation in the European Parliament as a result of the elections, currently there is no mention of Europe in this context. Keith D (talk) 12:28, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: European election

message: Discussion of this term would be useful. Drutt (talk) 15:17, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In what way? Lincolnshire has always been known as Bomber County, since the Second World War due to its many Airfields. You might find this of interest Here. --BSTemple (talk) 16:57, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Article makes no mention of the term or its background. It would be a helpful addition. Drutt (talk) 17:06, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Bomber County" 

message: I notice that the page is rated B - what would we have to do it to become an A? Brunnian (talk) 13:19, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: A-class is not used much as far as I can see in most projects. To get to an A-class it requires to have a project review involving a number of project members. Normally though most projects tend to go initially for a good article review to get the article to GA-class (comes between B & A), skip A-class and then go straight for a featured article review. Though I would suggest that peer reviews will be needed to get there. Keith D (talk) 16:29, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you are looking at what needs doing to the article a quick look shows that the bulleted lists need turning into prose and large sections need to be referenced. I would suggest that for an article of this nature for GA/FA then there should be in the order of 100 references. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Keith D (talk • contribs) 16:35, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: A-class?

message: Is it time to move 'events' and 'places of interest' out to a separate page?--Brunnian (talk) 17:47, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure about the 'events' section as not too bad at the moment, the 'places of interest' section needs to be turned into prose for this article so would be suitable to split out like for example List of places of interest in Bath, Somerset then adding a prose summary here like Bath, Somerset with a link to the sub-article. Keith D (talk) 20:54, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting up 

message: I know this affects Lincolnshire as a whole and not this page as much but the main map for Lincolnshire which has all the major routes and railway lines needs a update to take account of the new A16 route to Peterborough with old A16 route to Stamford from Spalding being downgraded to a non-primary route but I dont know how to inform the necessary people so that the update can be preformed. ( MOTORAL1987 (talk) 19:53, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably Nilfanion is the best person to talk to as they created the blank map templates. Keith D (talk) 19:59, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lincolnshire Map 

message: I think its high time that a special page (enlisted "Politics of Lincolnshire") was set up to look at recent and past election results for Lincolnshire in both county council and also the unitary authorities in North East Lincolnshire and North Lincolnshire. 
I propose that the new page is split into five sections, one for each of the council areas which can be filled with maps to show how each ward voted both in the present and in the past as well as show results from each of the wards. I also propose a section to focus on Westminster results from across the county although great detail may need not be applied to that section and also a final section on the recent AV referendum and also the page could also be used to providing information on district council results both past and present but I am thinking more at this time about county/unitary authority level. This brand new page would ease the need to put detailed information on the main county page as well as providing brand new information on the political landscape of Lincolnshire as well as its political past at a local level. ( MOTORAL1987 (talk) 16:36, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  The list of attractions wants splitting out too.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 21:04, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Politics of Lincolnshire! 

message: This article has a bunch but something should be done about, or explained with regards to the inclusion of Thomas Paine who had nothing as far as I'm aware to do with Lincolnshire - wrong Lincoln? Also the language section looks like it has been copy/pasted from the Yorkshire page. Some of the stuff in there is definitely not Lincolnshire simply because it has bled into Lincolnshire in some parts. Streaky (talk) 00:59, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thomas Paine has a tenuous link in that he was appointed as an Excise Officer in December 1762, based in Grantham. I've added a comment to that effect.GrahamSmith (talk) 11:56, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccuracies 

message: The remark Robin Hood Airport ... provide a wider range of flights. puzzles me.  Humberside has thrice-daily scheduled flights to Aberdeen & Schiphol, and a bunch of charters.  And the offshore helicopters.  Robin hood seems to have intermittent & charter flights.  Who nominates one or the other as superior? --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 21:17, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robin Hood airport 

message: hi there
as far as I can see Lincolnshire is the only County not to have its own page for the County Council [1]
instead it has http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincolnshire_County_Council#Politics which is actually a section on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lincolnshire
Shall I create one?
JT
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_county_councils_in_England — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremytarling (talk • contribs) 14:52, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Some redirect to the County article, such as Warwickshire. But probably that is an interim to having a proper article. If you think you have sufficient material then I would create it. Keith D (talk) 17:29, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it.  But move stuff from here rather than duplicate it, and use the  template here.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 14:05, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  separate County Council page 

message: Do we need two instances of the rastafarian tea-towel?  I am tempted to remove one of them.--Robert EA Harvey (talk) 16:06, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand what you are getting at with the doubled-up flag, and I agree. The text in the relevant sub section doesn't obviously or directly point to, or properly describe, the flag anyway, and would take a rewrite of the text to give an adequate pointer. The undeveloped text mentioning the Lincoln flag would confuse this with the Lincs flag for the uninitiated. If the flag remains, then it might be good to have the city of Lincoln flag image for comparison. There are nice bits of editor own POV in the text - obliquely pointing to the inadequacy of the LCC version of the imp, and in Ref No.40 title, which is not the linked page headed text, but pure editor invention and POV comment on the web site linked. If the sub sec remains as is, then I agree, why keep the extra flag - let's get rid. Let's leave it a few days though in case there are further points of view added. Acabashi (talk) 23:45, 7 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag 

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message: I'm glad to see so many small villages with articles in Wikipedia, but there are a couple of things missing. First, population figures for the 21st century. I know the government websites are hard to use, but I wish someone would take a list of villages in one hand and a computer mouse in the other and spend some time copying down the statistics and entering them into the relevant wikipedia pages. Even to complete the 2001 offerings would help, but its time to add 2011 figures as well--across the board.
Second, many villages are simply the most densely populated part of a civil parish of the same name. The local electorate is made up of the inhabitants of the whole parish, not just the village. Village articles should really be considered to be civil parish articles, especially for the smallest of places.
Third, this is one history nut who isn't really interested in what the Domeday Book had to say about a parish, but would like to know what made a parish tick in the 19th and 20th centuries. I've come across a few quotations from Kelly's Directory of 1885--these are really informative. Even if the parish was wholly made up of farmers, what was the most likely crop those farmers took to market? --Oldontarian (talk) 15:21, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Villages and civil parishes, population and other things 

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message: As this article is now quite lengthy, would it be sensible to move the notable people section to a separate page (List of people from Lincolnshire) and then create a link to that on this page? AustinRedd007  —Preceding undated comment added 11:06, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Splitting up people from Lincolnshire

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message: Can anyone identify the Ailesham or Eylisham in Lincolnshire where this 14th-century linen apparently came from? (Aylesham is in Kent!) PamD 15:48, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing springs to mind. More likely is the town of Aylsham in Norfolk as suggested in Notes and Queries (1904). Nedrutland (talk) 07:10, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
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message: I fixed one error in the infobox . It apparently uses magic to get various values from a table somewhere but it requires that certain standard names be used for the look-up. There is another error which needs some study of the template documentation. Under "Unitary authority", the area and density values are showing [convert: needs a number]. That is because a standard name was not used somewhere and the area look-up failed. Johnuniq (talk) 01:53, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Would you please have a look at this. Johnuniq (talk) 05:24, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The  parameter would apply only if Lincolnshire were itself a unitary authority; I have removed it. It's not intended for unitary authorities within Lincs with a different name: they have their own articles and their own infoboxes.  Dr Greg  talk  15:33, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! Johnuniq (talk) 22:30, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

text: The change that I previously made had been undone, so I've redone it.  Dr Greg  talk  18:26, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I'll try to contact the editor. Johnuniq (talk) 02:25, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @Johnuniq. There's a problem with the Demographics section too. It seems to have been left in a part-finished state. Not exactly sure what corrections are needed or whether it's better removed. Demographics/demography is not usually placed as the first headed section in the county articles. Rupples (talk) 03:49, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I periodically check some maintenance categories which showed a  error in this article. I don't have any idea about what should be done. If you are reasonably familiar with these infoboxes and you think a problem has occurred, please revert edits back to the original state. The editor wanting a change has to be willing to justify what they are doing and make sure, with assistance, that it is error free. Johnuniq (talk) 03:53, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. Thanks. I'll notify the editor concerned and if it's not corrected prompto will remove. Rupples (talk) 04:14, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox English county error 

message: Lists of notable people do tend to overwhelm county pages as there are so many of them. This page has quite wisely followed the advice to take this into a separate list article, List of people from Lincolnshire (see section "Splitting up people from Lincolnshire" above), but for some reason that article was also still being duplicated here. I have removed the list and ensured there is a see also under the People section. An alternative is to soldier on with this list in the article, but then the standalone list would be a redundant fork that would need to go to AfD. However I think the arrangement proposed by , with the information hived off, is better. It just needed the follow through of not duplicating it all in the main article. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 08:11, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @Sirfurboy. Agree with your eminently sensible edit to remove the duplicated list of people. On a slightly different matter I was thinking of abbreviating some of the wikilinked titles under the See also header. Ok, it's easier to put in the full title of the wikilinked list, but presentation-wise to keep repeating "List of" every time isn't visually attractive, when there's already "Lists". For example, change List of bridges and viaducts in Lincolnshire to Bridges and viaducts in Lincolnshire. A further step would be to truncate further by removing the repeated in Lincolnshire to leave just Bridges and viaducts but I haven't readily thought of an appropriate extension to "Lists", if one is indeed needed. Appreciate your and other editors comment, if any, before going ahead with what potentially may be a wasted effort, if immediately reverted. Rupples (talk) 15:07, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. That sounds sensible, but would it help to introduce with a sentence of text that says something like "The following are lists relating to Lincolnshire:" Perhaps not necessary, but just an idea. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 15:27, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I've taken this one step further and used a horizontal list. Feel free to revert if you don't like it.  Dr Greg  talk  16:16, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @Dr Greg. Dislike long columns with unutilised space to the right, so was experimenting with a columnar presentation, but the horizontal list has grown on me, so fine. Wasn't sure whether or not capital letters needed, but looks alright with, and I guess is required with the current styling. Rupples (talk) 17:04, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable people