Talk:Black swan

message: Shouldn't this page make some mention of Black Swan theory, or the old philosophical argument that said all swan's are white and a black swan is an impossible thing. Something about all that?
--Pollard666 (talk) 00:30, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The argument (sort of the opposite of what you said) is that you can't prove all swans are white by observing the color of swans and seeing only white ones.  All that proves is that you haven't been to Australia.  The generalization is that you can't prove something doesn't exist just by not being able to prove that it does.  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falsifiability#Inductive_categorical_inference  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.64.213.245 (talk) 00:44, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Black Swan Theory

message: I have also seen a white swan with a black swan.  They are in captivity.  The owners wanted to see if they would breed.  Whenever the black swan make a black swan noise the white swan attacked the black swan. When the black swan stopped making black swan noise the white swan stopped the attack.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert A. Curtis (talk • contribs) 09:57, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: There are lots of species in the US that are escapees. I don't think there is any thing that is required to be done, although it never hurts to inform the local Humane Society. They might be able to catch them and rehome them (or return them to the original owners, as many zoo birds will be banded).Alternatively call your local birding organisation, who will either do something about it or send hundered of birders to list it. Sabine's Sunbird 02:19, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: earlier conversations

message: I saw what I thought was a black swan in a pond near my home in Vernon, NJ.  Everyone I told said no way.  I googled black swan, and was surprised to discover their native home is Australia, and they are rare here.  I went back today, saw the bird again and now have photographic proof.  Laura, Vernon, NJ
:They often escape from captivity, jimfbleak 06:43, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: At 5:45 pm June 15, 2008, a black swan was observed heading down a lagoon in the Ocean Beach II section of Toms River Township, New Jersey. This location is on the Barnegat Bay Island barrier island. At first the observer thought someone painted the bird when the bird stretched its wings the and white underside showed. The description of the swan ,atcjes is noted above. This website stated that these birds are native of Australia and no mention had been made of sightings in the United States. Perhaps it could be one of the "escapees" mentioned in Briton.
Hey My name is LAURA and i have seen this black swan in OB3 i have picture to prove it, he is beautiful we feed him a few mornings on vacation(he likes potato bread. i have tons of pictures. I have seen him 2 years in a row he is a local now, last seen August 2008. Email-- laaota07@yahoo.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.15.214.194 (talk) 13:31, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black Swan sighting NJ 

message: I am adding to the sighting list. I saw a pair at the Norfolk Broads in Norfolk county in the UK. My photo can be seen here.
- Mayuresh 19:03, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black Swans in Norfolk Broads 

message: Changed "Both sexes are similar" to "The sexes are similar."  (How can only one sex be similar?)
Kostaki mou 00:47, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor edit

message: Recently, an anon user 71.196.140.140 added some article about Black Swan homosexuality, that reached almost a "quarter" of their total population. The source of this "nonsense" is Livescience website , and after reading some of their articles, is totally questionable. There's no confirmed source or anything about the information (personal view ??) posted on their site. Anybody has more knowledge about the website or the swan' lifestyle ? --Stavenn 02:30, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The two different percentages make perfect sense when you factor in the swans that are not paired up. Up to 20% of the entire population, but 25% of the paired population, which is a subset of the entire population. Myk 14:01, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black Swan lifestyle 

message: This word appears in the text. Is it a typo? jimfbleak 05:32, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dhufish

message: I've noticed a certain amount of reversing of edits regarding a link to a book in the ab message at the top of the page. Perhaps it would be best to discuss it here rather than continue and risk some 3Rness. As far as the arguments go, there are several instances that I've noticed where a single common derived term is linked in addition to the mani dab page (by derived I mean that all the various dab meanings are derived from the original meaning, in this case the Australian bird). I'm not sure that the book is a candidate in these circumstances, especially as it is itself a derived term from the theory of the same names (surely a better candidate if there is to be one). 
Another thing, when id this article get so completely overfilled with cultural sections? It's a mess! Sabine's Sunbird  talk 23:18, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now created a new page called Black Swan emblems and popular culture, and have transferred all of the 'cultural references', which were listed on the Black Swan page, to the new page — I have also added a 'See also' section on the Black Swan page, with a link to the new page. (This is similar to the Kangaroo emblems and popular culture page, to which there is a link from the 'See also' section of the Kangaroo page). Figaro 15:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Re: the direct dab link. A search for "Black Swan" on Google has the book listed first and this article second. With the book currently #21 on the Amazon best seller list, it seems appropriate to provide a direct dab link to it so that people searching for the book, a currently common activity, can go directly to that article rather than going first to the dab page, reading down to the book link, and then clicking the link. Since this feature is used on other articles, seems reasonable to do it here. Regards, Rillian 15:34, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is supposed to be an encyclopedia page about the bird, and the continued reversion of the disambiguation section at the top of the page, to give a special and significant mention of the book, can be said to be covered by both of the descriptions used.  The book is mentioned on the disambiguation page, where it part of a short listing — surely people are brainy enough to be able to find the link to the page about the book (from the disambiguation page) without too much difficulty (without the extra need for special guidance and assistance to get there). Figaro 21:41, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slow-burn editwar 

message: Could someone tell me just what the hell a swan is?My help is needed 22:14, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If your question is intended as a serious one, then check out the page for Swan for the answer to your query. Figaro 22:45, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ?! 

message: I propose moving this page to Black swan, which is currently one of the stupidest & most needless redirect pages I've seen. When did swan become a proper noun?  TREKphiler hit me ♠  23:49, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Bird species are treated as proper nouns when using official names on Wikipedia, see the Wikipedia:MOS#Animals, plants, and other organisms. Sabine's Sunbird  talk 00:28, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Swanning about

message: The reason for the last last edit is that the article uses the term "homosexuality" as defined in the article Homosexual behavior in animals. This use conforms with the scientific use of the phrase. A thorough argument for the preference of the term homosexual rather than homosocial can be found in:
* Bruce Bagemihl (1999): Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity, St. Martin's Press, pp.122-166
* Sommer, Volker & Paul L. Vasey (2006): Homosexual Behaviour in Animals, An Evolutionary Perspective. Cambridge University Press, Cambridge.
* Joan Roughgarden (2004): Evolutions rainbow: Diversity, gender and sexuality in nature and people, University of California Press, Berkeley, pp.13-183
Petter Bøckman (talk) 10:37, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homosexuality versus homosciality

message: As C - no details on diet, nor much on taxonomy. Not a bad start though. Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:21, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Rerated

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message: why is black swan capitalized? its a swan.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.7.232.2 (talk) 05:02, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a long-standing convention that all bird species are capitalised, see the Wikipedia:MOS#Animals, plants, and other organisms. Jimfbleak -  talk to me? 10:00, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  capitalization 

message: those cygnets don't look particularly black!
does the color develop over time, or after a moult with a whole new set of feathers or what?  67.150.81.69 (talk) 05:22, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  color change 

message: Does the cited reference support the divorce rate claim? Hack (talk) 23:54, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Six percent divorce rate  

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message: All these pictures of black swans and no range map?  Is something off-kilter here? Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 22:51, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Range map