Talk:Soviet Navy

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Soviet_Navy_Bases_1984.png
this pic shows vishakhapatnam, India as a soviet base. This is totally erroneous and based on an unsubstantiated rumor floated during the 1971 war by (who else !) USN.
The plausible reason was that vishakhapatnam was the home base of the eastern fleet of the Indian navy and was mostly armed with eastern bloc origin warships, including all the submarines(all soviet origin) since Vishakhapatnam was also the HQ of the submarine arm of IN.
While the other fleet, the western fleet based at bombay was armed with western origin ships. 
This lead to the eastern fleet being dubbed the 'red fleet' of the Indian Navy even among IN circles !
I request someone who has the expertise to edit the picture file and rectify this error.
thanks !
-- mitran  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.194.224.168 (talk) 04:29, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Wrong information about VMF bases

message: The term "organic air arm" should be clarified. Crocodilicus 03:19, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification 

message: !-- Russians have not had a strong maritime tradition, at least in the same sense that other European powers such as the British and French enjoyed. Largely due to geography, Russia simply did not have the same amount of access to the high seas, and what access the nation did have was often constrained by seasonal ice. In addition, Russia's vast size and central placement on Eurasia allowed overland trade routes to many neighbors, thus negating the necessity of a navy to protect seaborne trade.
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Reason:
In normannic times fleet of Kiev Russia(with the help of hired normann army man, known as varyags (варяги)) was one of the most poverful fleets and took part in diege and taking many of the cities on Black and Baltic sea (most famous was taking of Byzantium Constantinople (Your shield on Tsargrad doors/Твой щит на вратах Цареграда from Song about wise Oleg)), and the story AFAIK about doors of Sopha cathedral of Great novgorod) from one of the Baltic towns. Then, many actions by cossacks on Black sea (It was a kind of Carribean with turks as Spain and cossacs as English/French pirates) with they galley fleet (tschaiki/чайки/seagulls --- kind of galley-like small ships, with free oarsman) are not widely known. The only known famous action in Nothern Ocean was discovery of Bering straits by cossack-coast-dweller(помор) Sem'en Dezhn'ev (Семён Дежнёв) in 1648. And actions after official creation of russian fleet by Peter the Great, but they are better known even in wikipedia :)
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This text above was 'hiding' in the article, but will need to be cleaned up and reconsidered before being inserted, if at all.
Cheers
Buckshot06 07:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The text above was reason, why some information must be deleted. It is not 100% academic, more like point of view, and it's not suitable for this page, so it was placed in the comment.
*I take issue with anyone questioning Russian maritime tradition.  Just the Russian regular Navy is 313 years old as of October 2009.  Also, "maritime tradition" encompasses more than just the navy.  In includes all seafaring.  The nature and extent of Russia's riverine navigational experience is huge.Федоров (talk) 03:04, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Unshown text imported

message: I would like to propose that the article be restructured as follows:
* 1 Red Navy legacy and history
:1.1 Russian Civil War
:1.2 Stalin's Navy
:1.3 Purges
:1.4 Great Patriotic War (include conflicts with the Japanese, and Finland) (separate article)
Red Navy during the Great Patriotic War
::1.1 The Scope of the War
::1.2 The Polish Campaign
::1.3 The Finnish Campaigns
::1.4 1st period of GPW
::1.5 2nd Period of GPW
::1.6 3rd Period of GPW
::1.7 The Manchurian Campaign
:1.4 The Soviet Navy (separate article for Cold War)
:1.5 The Korean War
:1.6 The Vietnam War
:1.7 Foreign military assistance
:1.9 Transition from Soviet Navy to Armed forces of the Russian Federation and former Soviet republics in a separate article
* 2 Military doctrine (as a process of learning from history)
:2.1 Deep Operations
:2.2 Operational Manoeuvre Groups
:2.3 Gorshkov's Navy
:2.4 Choke points and strategic bases
:2.5 Carrier aviation development
*3 Organization (organising for the doctrines)
:3.1 Higher command structure
:3.2 Administrative structure and Rear Services
:3.3 Arms of Service, Service Corps and command establishments
:3.4 Peace and Wartime structures (links to articles on organisation of formations and units)
:3.5 Post-GPW changes
:3.6 Post-Stalin changes
:3.7 "Nuclear oceans" impact
* 4 Personnel (developing the personnel to execute the doctrines)
:4.1 Ranks and titles
:4.2 General Staff
:4.3 Military education
:4.4 Manpower and enlisted men
:4.5 Army culture
* 5 Weapons and equipment (developing the equipment for the personnel)
::(Links to equipment articles by Arm of Service)
:5.1 Missile troops
:5.2 SpetzNaz troops
:5.3 Capital vessels
:5.4 Minor vessels
:5.5 Submarine forces
:5.6 Coastal defence troops
:5.7 Amphibious forces
:5.8 Naval Aviation
:5.9 Base support 
* 6 Notes
* 7 References
* 8 Sources
Comments?--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 00:51, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  new structure proposal 

message: The leader asserts, "...the Soviet Navy still saw considerable action during the Cold War". The body of the text does not seem to provide any evidence. What was this action? Thom2002 (talk) 14:40, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Cold War Engagements

message: Eg., Military Balance (IISS) claims that in 1985 the then some 480,000 strong Soviet Navy, second largest navy in the world, has 3/4 conscripts in its ranks. Is that believable, regarding the huge warship and armaments pool and the technical requirements to maintain an organization so strong ? --129.187.244.28 (talk) 08:19, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Made up of 75 % conscripts in the mid-1980s ? 

message: The article currently says the navy was formed in 1918 as the Workers' and Peasants' Red Fleet and later says it was renamed in 1946 as the Soviet Navy. There is no mention that at some point after 1918 the navy was subordinated as a main directorate under the Red Army and thus was not an indepedent military service any more. Further, as some time in the 1930s, the navy became independent again as the Voyenno-Morskoy Flot. I came here for specific dates for this information and am surprised it is missing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.140.15 (talk) 17:16, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Highest Level Organizational Information Missing 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion 

message: A History SE answer to Why was the Soviet Marine Infantry disbanded in 1947? has some critiques for a portion of this page:
> The mistake is repeated in this English language Wikipedia article (which, curiously, cites no sources for this mistaken information).
See the link for a description, sources, and a link to a Global Security page said to be more accurate.
I have no knowledge of the topic at hand, but perhaps someone more knowledgeable can chime in and provide corrections or clarifications as needed. 72.43.37.66 (talk) 20:18, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critique of marine section