Talk:Hadash

message: There is racism in editing this page. Hadash sees its mainly Palestinian supporters as "Palestinian citizens of Israel."
This is explicit in al-jabhas website, which is in Arabic. There seems to be a racist campaign to change the description of Palestinian Israeli political parties. This is done through the deletion of anything concerning their view that they are a Palestinian national minority in Israel.  --- Fadi
:The source I provided is from the BBC which is considered reputable and reliable enough for wikipedia.- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 01:16, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Racism in Editing this page

message: Could someone find a citation for the "non-Zionist" claim? As far as I know Hadash supports two seperate states for Jews and Arabs. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.98.67.115 (talk • contribs) 
:Not true, I did a bit of checking, it didn't take me long. Hadash supports the creation of a Palestinian state on the pre-1967 borders it's true, so it doesn't support a single state solution. But it also supports the right of Palestinian refugees to return to Israel (if they choose not to they should be compensated) and it contends that the state of Israel should lose it's Jewish character and should exist for all of it's citizens, effectively creating a secular state with all Israeli people and religions given equal status. I added several references to the article and did quite a comprehensive tidy up. Hope I haven't trod on any toes. This article could do with a bit of history and background. Alun 12:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hadash is an alliance of multiple parties some of which can be described as non-zionist and some as anti-zionist Shlumpsters (talk) 12:47, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-Zionist? 

message: Please do not remove references from the article. If you do not like the format then please change the format, but don't revert cited material, especially when a request for a cite has been made and then fulfilled. I made no real changes to the text of the article, so I fail to see how I have apparently changed it's meaning. Please illuminate me here, or please provide reasons for removing cites. If you want to incorporate a different point of view, then that is a good thing as long as it's verified, but as I see it the article is virtually indistinguishable in content to what it was before, it's just better sourced as per the verifiability policy, and conforms better to the rules regarding citing sources. Alun 20:02, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: The article originally claimed that Hadash called for a bi-national state (מדינה דו-לאומית), and gave as a reference the Zionism and Israel Information Centre. However, the party's manifesto does not make this demand. Rather, it calls for the recognition of Palestinian Arab citizens as a national minority  (מיעוט לאומי) within Israel. This position is actually incompatible with the transformation of Israel into a bi-national state. I think we shoulkd regard the party's own manifesto as more authoritative that a Zionist propaganda gloss, and have amended the article in keeping. RolandR 15:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this source (the official Maki website) is pretty clear on the issue - calling for "A Palestinian State alongside Israel - Now!" Number 57 19:51, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But that's a different issue. Supporters of a two-state solution to the conflict can have varying positions towards the future nature of the Israeli state, and support for such a solution says nothing about their "domestic" agenda. Some (eg Avigdor Lieberman) are explicitly racist, even supporting transfer of Arab citizens to the resulting Palestinian state. Some, like Azmi Bishara, explicitly call for the transformation of Israel into "a state of its citizens". Hadash is more equivocal; while clearly supporting equal individual rights for non-Jewish citizens, and calling for the recognition of Arabs as a national minority within Israel, it has never opposed the existence of Israel as a "Jewish state", or supported calls for binationalism. RolandR 20:19, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That was my point: Hadash does not call for binationalism but a two-state solution. Number 57 20:48, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is possible to have both binationalism and a two-state solution.  Under this scenario, Israel would be binational and Palestine would be an Arab homeland.  However, I agree that Hadash doesn't seem to be calling for this. Superm401 - Talk 21:25, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bi-national State? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Hadashnew.jpg

message: If you believe that the addition of one single sentence (sourced clearly and correctly) in the body of the text of the article (not in the infobox or lead) somehow in some way threatens the NPOV of the article, then you must quote from WP:NPOV a section that specifically states how. --Shamir1 (talk) 07:24, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As suggested on your talk page, it is a Balance or Undue weight issue. In dealing with an aspect of the party, you can't just quote one single source on that issue, especially if it is a praise or criticism; you have to balance it with the alternate opinion, and somehow try and assert which one is the more widely held belief. пﮟოьεԻ 57 09:25, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is conflict of undue weight? I think it is very, very, very clear which "is the more widely held belief." (For heaven's sake, I was the editor who added "communism" to the infobox, citing the CRS.) Do you not see what is in the lead? The introduction, the infobox, and the entire rest of the article... This selected quotation isn't necessarily praise or criticism, and even if it was this one sentence (and sourced, cited criticism is allowed) it is dwarfed by the rest of the article. It seems totally comprehensive. --Shamir1 (talk) 16:32, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haaretz addition 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I don't believe this paragraph should be part of the "controversy" section.
"In December 2015, the Hadash party published a Facebook post condemning the assassination of Hezbollah militant Samir Kuntar and comparing Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu to the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria."
I'm my opinion, as someone exterior to the facts narrated and the Israeli situation, that could be defined as nothing more than classical PR done by a party whose intenction is to express its view on current events. The article cited cites just some rival party noise, nothing different to me to any political bickering in this world. On the other hand nothing has been wrote about wide-spread disapproval and/or protests by the civil society, wich is what i would argue is a better measure of a controversy. 
--217.31.112.85 (talk) 17:38, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy or political view? 

message: There are multiple issues with describing Hadash, a marxist-Leninist party, as left wing. To start it is A: sourced to Haaretz, a source that has been accused of failing to correct inaccuracies and has been caught whitewashing left of center parties before (see ‘criticism’ on the Haaretz wiki page where these are sourced reliably), and B: Hadash is recognized on this page to be a Marxist Leninist party, an ideology that is considered far left not only overall but on other wiki pages, such as the communist party of the soviet union. Finally, C: in the lead of the article the party is described only as far left, not as left wing. In the name of being smart with source use and article consistency I ask for a consensus to remove the “left wing” from the political position section. Nigel Abe (talk) 19:17, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: "Far left" is a matter of gradient and it is within "left wing" spectrum. So both are true. The characterization as "far left" is already included in the infobox. --MarioGom (talk) 15:40, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, Hadash is clearly not a left-wing to far-left party, they are far-left 100%, they are a communist progressive anti-Zionist/Non-Zionist party, it's clearly not just "left-wing",it's a far-left party --Arjona123 (talk) 17:38, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  “Left wing“ identification 

message: Change number of seats for Hadash in the infobox from 6 to 3. 2001:48F8:405D:457:78F8:B35C:B861:C5D8 (talk) 06:29, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 09:32, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 April 2021 

message: The left-wing is redundant to position the party, inasmuch as it is a Leninist Communist pparty, which unequivocally sorts out the difference between mainstream left to Far-left.. If the faction were to be a mainstream left-wing it'd have refuted advocation of those fringe ideologies... 2A0D:6FC7:20E:5EF:F899:DA88:B511:4926 (talk) 13:18, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Far left 

message: Hello User:Number 57, the page of Ta'al party lists its alliance with Hadash in the "National affiliation" section of the infobox. Therefore I listed it here too.  Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 22:12, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That is a fairly recent addition, and I've removed if from there too. Cheers, Number 57 22:54, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright! Cheers and happy holdays! Roman Reigns Fanboy (talk) 23:31, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hadash-Ta'al 

message: A proposed edit for the Controversien section: In October 2023, the Knesset Ethics Committee suspended Hadash member Ofer Cassif from Knesset for 45 days for his comments about the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023_Israel%E2%80%93Hamas_war.  The committee's explanation included, "repeated violations related to expressions from the content world of the Holocaust".
* https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/israel-punishes-jewish-lawmaker-for-saying-the-country-asked-for-violence/ar-AA1isq1x
* https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/israeli-communist-lawmaker-warns-ethnic-cleansing-of-palestinians-is-underway/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jaufrec (talk • contribs) 21:09, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ofer Cassif suspended 

message: Hadash does not define itself as a non-Zionist party; the source used here doesn't even mention Zionism. I speak Hebrew but you can translate the whole thing to English and see that there's no mention of Zionism. However, Hadash has been referred to as an anti-Zionist party, and its members oppose Zionism (Examples: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). I'd argue that the "non-Zionism" mentioned here should be replaced by "anti-Zionism". Bakbik1234 (talk) 17:24, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: And if adding "anti-Zionism" is too controversial here, then don't mention Zionism in their ideology at all. Bakbik1234 (talk) 17:39, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hadash is an anti-Zionist party 

message: Currently around two-thirds of the introduction is detailing the party's name in Hebrew and Arabic. I don't think this is a useful use of space, and converted it to a note. However, this was reverted. Do we really need to use up so much space in the introduction on this? Number 57 21:52, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Excessive name-related detail in the introduction