Talk:Korean martial arts

message: Glad to hear it is outdated with poor facts, why don't you work on improving it now??
Ancient Korean martial art existed before Japanese military occupation. Even though Japanese military government outlawed Koreans practicing Korean art. Koreans still practiced Korean martial art. Reader must always remember during 36 or 40 years of Japanese military occupation over Korea. Japanese outlawed everything People, Language, Culture, Food, History, and Martial arts. Japanese tried very very hard to erase everything Korean as much as possible. In the end look at the reality. Korean race still exist, Korean language and culture still exist, Korean food and martial art still exist. Japanese history changed so many times its really hard to believe that Japanese martial art influenced Korean martial arts. If Japanese culture has given Koreans that much of strong impact then Korean language, Korean food, Korean culture, and Korean history, Korean art must have strong Japanese influence. But it does not. So how can Japanese Karate influence Korean Taekwondo?? The word Taekwondo is modern and simplified form of combining all ancient Korean martial arts into one. Korean Pumse ( Kata Jpn), Korean Kicks, Korean hand strikes, are very different from Shotokan Karate. Only similiarity would be both are Stand position fight martial arts and they have similiar uniform.
Taekwondo is divided into two system. North and South Korean styles.
ITF Taekwondo ( North Korean style): Full contact sparring system. More self defense oriented martial art. Much emphasize on accuracy and discipline.
WTF Taekwondo ( South Korean style): Point system contact sparring system. Morea health sport oriented martial art. Much emphasize on flexability and discipline.
History between ITF and WTF is split into two ideology. Only way for me to correct and provide updated information with accuracy is first two Taekwondo association must unite and agree one united Taekwondo history. North Korea has all valuable information regarding to Ancient Korean martial art book ( Korean martial art Bible). Until Historians or Taekwondo martial art researchers need those information to provide accurate information on Korean martial arts including Taekwondo. Many Japanese nationalist get a kick out Shotokan karate influencing Taekwondo but in reality Karate was originated in Okinawa not Japan. Okinawa was under Chinese cultural influence. Please keep in mind " Kyukushinkai Karate" Mas Oyama was Korean. He was influenced by Korean and Chinese martial arts. He also incorporated Taekwondo kicks into Kyukushinkai karate.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Korea4one (talk • contribs) 13:47, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Glad to hear it is outdated with poor facts, why don't you work on improving it now. User5802 22:06, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Korean original forms of martial arts 

message: There have been a lot of suspiciously POV-seeming additions to this page recently.  Unfortunately, I don't know nearly enough about this area to tell fact from opinion/fiction.  Please check this article for veracity and neutrality.  -- Visviva 12:04, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious content 

message: The section "Modern Korean martial arts" needs comprehensive checking regarding its claims and lack of sources. Most of the historical facts presented there have been widely spread in the KMA scene around the world but as far as I know there has never been any documented or at least unbiased source to prove them. Besides that most of the facts now marked with "dubious" or "citation needed" are historically incoherent. I myself have been trying to get some coherent fact out of these stories spread throught the KMA community (at least some solid reason other than simply artificially promoting and oversizing KMA's role in the Marcial Arts world). So far not a hint other than the obvious.
:ALERT: During the past several years that I have viewed this page on Korean Martial Arts, I have been disappointed to to see contributions that reify the Japanese propaganda of 1910-1945, during its occupation of Korea, and seek to promote a misplaced agenda of identifying Japanese origins of Korean martial arts.  It is alarming that such culturally insensitive and ignorant comments continue to be made, particularly on this page.  Please reference works that are now available in English and on the web, such as 5,000 Years of Korean Martial Arts: the heritage of the hermit kingdom's warriors by R. Barry Harmon.
:Japanese colonialism sought to purge Koreans of their traditional culture and identity and suppressed the practice of Korean martial arts, often co-opting these as their own and obfuscating its true Korean origins.  R. Barry Harmon writes, "... colonial influence may be seen studying the development of Tae Kwon Do. Tae Kwon Do is widely believed to be a continuation of Tae Kyun and Soo Bahk Ki but evidence to the contrary has been found since the [Japanese] name [Tae Kwon Do] was first used [after the occupation, while the word 'do' or 'the way' was never used in pre-colonial times].  Incorrect translations of the ancient text Mooye Tobo Tong-ji (An Illustrated History of Korean Martial Arts) referring to the term do is not uncommon and helps to propagate the incorrect history.
:"Self-serving translations have been commissioned by regimes with agendas opposed to the traditional Korean martial art spirit and by individuals wishing to further their own interests.  These have done a great disservice to Korean history by emphasizing outside influences and minimalizing indigenous culture.  Understanding the colonial influence is important not as part of an argument over what style is older or better but to make clear the distinct differences of historical standing.  The unique nature if the Korean fighting system and its impact on other martial arts becomes obvious only after intense research."  
:You can read parts of the book on Google at: <see http://books.google.com/books?id=tZbVl-Cd-SgC&pg=PR11&lpg=PR11&dq=korean+martial+arts+during+japanese+occupation&source=bl&ots=viN4tZ1XB4&sig=sbE-1i8CwAE-CN14aDMusXMGS0c&hl=en&sa=X&ei=eSh6U9SqKMjhoATB7ICgAQ&ved=0CC8Q6AEwBDgK#v=onepage&q=korean%20martial%20arts%20during%20japanese%20occupation&f=false>.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gndr (talk • contribs) 17:05, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Modern Korean martial arts

message: In the Wikipedia article Taekkyon, it says '...subak was divided into different segments, including yusul (a grappling art), kicking, and so forth, with Taekkyon being one such segment....'.  So then why does Taekkyon have kicks?  Keep me in touch.100110100 06:55, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I answered your question in Talk:Taekyon Kbarends 07:16, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subak 

message: I dunno, but I thought the page looked better before adding tables (various reasons).  Anyone else want to revert?  (Also, the page content seems to be of a strong POV type, too...)
Edededed 01:27, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would agree that the table doesn't add much, at least in its current form.  -- Visviva 07:43, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ugly Tables? 

message: Be considered a traditional Korean Martial Art true it was more of a Warrior teachings but 
they did teach Martial Arts in the training so.....? -Easternknight
::We don't know exactly what they were taught and what they trained. So as long as you tell that as well. You could say that the military arts of the hwarang were traditional MA, but that we have no clue what they did. Kbarends (talk) 10:34, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Could Hwarang [The Pure form from Silla]] 

message: I saw/heard about this... Iron fan Korean Martial Arts. Could someone add this info?--Hitsuji Kinno (talk) 07:57, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fan martial Arts

message: I have recently cleaned up the Asian martial arts (origins) article. I added a section for Korean martial arts, but no information currently graces the page. If anyone is knowledgeable on the subject of the origins of Korean martial arts, please feel free to add cited material to the page linked above. You can mention legends if you want (referenced of course), but please try to restrict your edits to verifiable material, preferably found in scholarly publications. Thank you. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 17:06, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assistance required 

message: I don't want to sound presumptuous here but shouldn't this article have a better lead image? Maybe something more historical, or a photo from an important match or something? Morinae (talk) 13:51, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
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