Talk:Hmong Americans

message: Am I overstepping? I feel like this book is a lot of people's introduction to Hmong culture, but I may be biased. If I am, please feel free to remove it and leave a note on my Talk page telling me. Thanks. Janet13 06:17, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never heard of it, and I'm guessing most people who have been introduced to Hmong culture never have either.  Most people's introduction comes from contact with their Hmong neighbors, not from reading books.  That said, I don't think overstepping is the word I'd use...I would say, however, that its insertion into the article could use some serious re-wording first to indicate why it's mentioned in this article and second so that it reads more smoothly.  I'd try to help out, but I (1) don't know what its relevance is and (2) don't know really what you're trying to say, so I can't reword it so it's less jarring.  Sorry. :-\  TomerTALK 21:34, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi Tomer, thanks for responding. I've reworded it some (and will post notification on your talk as well)... please see what you think. If it still doesn't work, please feel free to remove it. Janet13 21:57, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good.  I redid it a bit, as well as fixed up a few other things in there.  Hope you don't mind.  TomerTALK 22:17, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yay, wikipedia in action. :) I certainly don't mind and very much appreciate the suggestions and edits. Janet13 22:19, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spirit Catches You and You Fall Down 

message: Is it possible to put this state-by-state population data in a table or similar format? I would also recommend limiting the table to only the first 10 states or so. Listing all 50 in this article seems excessive since the information is accessible elsewhere. (Also, I basically copied and pasted the information that had been recently been added to the Hmong/Mong people (but seemed to belong in this article) and some editing will be required to reorganize the information here.Nposs 03:30, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing new population information 

message: List of Asian Americans and a whole bunch of other lists have been nominated for deletion.  If you have an opinion, please vote at the AfD.
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Asian Americans
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Chinese Americans (2nd nomination)
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Korean Americans
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Cambodian Americans
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Filipino Americans
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Hmong Americans
Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Log/2007 September 12 for all the lists that have been nominated for deletion.
Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 18:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of Asian Americans]] and other lists nominated for deletion 

message: Active editors of this article are invited to join the discussion regarding the change in Asian American article's infobox.  Specifically we are looking to get nominations for individuals who would fall under this article, nominations shall remain open until 9 November 2009.  Comments are also welcomed.  Thank you in advance --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 13:19, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Invitation to discussion

message: Should the article include reference to this: For Hmong Hunters, a Guiding Voice in Their New Home? --Pawyilee (talk) 10:39, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hunting in Their New Home 

message: * Bliatout, Bruce Thoupaou, Bruce T. Downing, Judy Lewis, and Dao Yang. "Handbook for Teaching Hmong-Speaking Students." Southeast Asia Community Resource Center. Folsom Cordova Unified School District, 1988. WhisperToMe (talk) 09:41, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Source

message: I deleted the sentence that read "Hmong-American children born in the United States usually have much better access to education and jobs than that which their parents had, and thus have better economic opportunities than their parents would have had in their former homes."--because it was unsourced etc.  I don't see this as the worst problem with that sentence or with the section on education.  There is a problem here of cultural bias.  If you are talking about pre-war Hmong, it is ridiculous to claim that their children have better access to education and jobs.  After all, they had perfectly adequate education and opportunity to be Hmong hill-farmers, which there is nothing in the world wrong with.  If you are comparing the US-born children's situation with that of people in refugee camps, the section seems ridiculously obvious.  I don't think that's what the author meant, though. Writing like this distorts Hmong history, making it seem as though the Hmong struggled in Laos so they could abandon their homes for the US.  They were fierce anti-communist fighters, but if they could have they'd have chosen to stay in the hills and keep on farming.  Coming to the US is a better end for them than staying in camps in Thailand, but this wasn't what they wanted to begin with.  There is a cultural bias here that suggests implicitly that American jobs and American education are better than other jobs or educations.  It also suggests that immigration is a step up for the Hmong from the status quo ante bellum.  This is a contention that doesn't belong in an encyclopedia article, and smacks of American elitism.Brechbill123 (talk) 22:52, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Education

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replies: text: What are you doing today 2601:205:4800:D4F0:5CA6:C819:E7C8:E457 (talk) 09:31, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: File:Vang Pao 0.jpg Nominated for Deletion

message: Please add a fair use rational per WP:NFC for the usage of the Vang Pao image at the Hmong American article. Otherwise image will need to be removed from the article's infobox. --RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 23:29, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vang Pao image at Hmong American article 

message: I am proposing to add a subsection in the “Community and social issues” section on health disparities in the Hmong American population. There is already a subsection on mental health, but I think adding an additional subsection can call to attention the disparity in understanding ‘Western’ versus traditional medicine practices. Please let me know your thoughts! Prisci8 (talk) 22:34, 29 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Adding subsection - health disparities

message: *Straka, Richard. "The violence of Hmong gangs and the crime of rape." The FBI Law Enforcement Bulletin. February 2003.
WhisperToMe (talk) 08:01, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: More sources

message: You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Asian American#Infobox ethnicity representatives.  RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 07:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox image discussion

message: You are invited to join the discussion at Talk:Asian American#Hmong American in infobox.  Thanks. RightCowLeftCoast (talk) 19:06, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Talk:Asian American#Hmong American in infobox

message: I suggest that a mental health section be added under the "Community Issues" subheading. Another suggestion would be to create a completely new section on mental health. This is a particularly significant issue for the Hmong American community, which has been postulated to be resultant from PTSD, depression, and/or stress from emigration. The issue of the prevalence of sudden and unexplained deaths during sleep amongst Hmong males should be mentioned. Additional areas that should be covered should include the Hmong's specific needs as well as barriers to accessing mental health care. Mtran99 (talk) 08:22, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mental Health 

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message: According to this article from about 10 years ago, use of the Hmong language had begun to decline in the US:
https://www.tcdailyplanet.net/hmong-language-endangered/
And according to this report from Education Week this year, the number of English-speakers of Hmong has declned 57% since 2006:
https://www.tcdailyplanet.net/hmong-language-endangered/
I'm not sure how to add this to the article, however.--Beneficii (talk) 15:02, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Decline of Hmong language in the United States? 

message: I don't see how it is encyclopedic or due to include two entire paragraphs on specific organaization that are not notable. I had removed it for the listed reasons but that was reverted so I thought I'd take it to the talk page. What justification is there that this content is due or encyclopedic? Spyglass1 (talk) 02:57, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for opening this discussion. I have added another news source, as well as more information, since I reverted, and from my view, the content that was removed was basic and sourced information that seems to fit within the context of the section, and it does not appear to be commentary . Also, according to the notability guideline, . From my view, this small amount of content is WP:DUE within the context of the section, and I plan to continue research to help develop this part of the article to help support the inclusion. Please let me know if you have any questions. Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 03:10, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not advocating for getting rid of the entire section but I don't believe the two entire paragraphs (which is a substantial bit) on various local organazations it due for the article. I'd be curious to hear the perspectives of other editors not us. Spyglass1 (talk) 03:20, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I have edited the section and other parts of the article in the meantime. Cheers, Beccaynr (talk) 05:06, 16 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sexuality