Talk:Rumours and conspiracy theories about the July 2005 London bombings

message: These two links should be included here:
www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2005/110705bombingexercises.htm
http://www.julyseventh.co.uk/media/r5.live.peter.power.exercise.mp3
*This seems like a silly idea of a conspiracy theory - you're telling me a gvt could pull this off brilliantly and kill dozens of its own civilians but not successfully cover up the murder of one innocent  (if at the time vaguely suspicious) man running for a train two days later. 160.39.111.79 01:10, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: * I firmly protest against the fact that this article, which covers DOCUMENTED FACTS about the 7/7 London bombing attacks, is treated as just mere "rumours" and/or "conspiracy theories" as this is for sure a deliberate attempt to disqualify and/or ridicule some serious facts that would lead to a totaly distinct approach as to what actually happened, and how and why this event happened!!!
That drills were going on that day, at the VERY PRECISE time and location of the actual attacks, is a WELL ESTABLISHED FACT, not a rumour, and should therefore be covered in the main article itself!
Same is true about the behavious of the alledged 'terrorists' which were not in any way behaving as terrorists.
Facts are facts, not rumours or conspiracies!  In fact it does not even need to be mentioned "conspiracy" but these are "complicity" theories, BASED on FACTS and for a large part PROVEN TRUE!
It seems the people here know NOTHING about operations by secret intelligence agencies, such as was the case with Gladio - which also made it look like other people/groups had performed these terror acts - and that the more recent terrorist attacks (9/11, Bali 2002, Madrid and London 7/7) all show well established facts which lead to government foreknowledge and government complicity.
Heusdens 04:08, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you need to stop link-spamming. Jayjg (talk) 17:43, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, for a start the BBC programme (Panorama: London Under Attack) has explosions at Hyde Park Corner, Oxford Circus, and Vauxhall stations, which are completely different from the three nominal attack points on 7/7. In addition, all three in the programme were on deep tube lines, as opposed to the single deep tube and two sub-surface line attacks on 7/7. In the programme the fourth attack was a chemical tanker near a fourth station, not a bus not really near a station. The company running the "exercise" on 7/7 is run by someone involved in the making of the Panorama programme, elements of which were used in the office-based hypothetical scenario. No doubt the same company previously sold variations on the same theme to different companies previously. Considering the number of companies in London running disaster management/business continuity services, it would have been more remarkable had none of them been doing something of that type on the day. Nick Cooper (talk) 17:24, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: PROTEST : These are not just 'rumours' or 'conspiracy theories' but PROVEN FACTS! 

message: Have video (.wmv) and audio (mp3) of these interviews.  They can't be that hard to come by, but if you want a copy, leave a message on my talk page and I will arrange to deliver these to you.  TCMike 05:33, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  BBC/Powers interview 

message: Xiutwel has added a link to Daniel Obachike's blog. There seems to be little hard evidence that this person was actually on the bus at all, and therefore the veracity of his claims are in doubt.  The "evidence" on Obachike's website itself seems to be tenuous, to say the least. Nick Cooper 10:49, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daniel Obachike - survivor or hoaxer? 

message: I have proposed that articles titled with "conspiracy theory" be renamed at Wikipedia:Conspiracy theory titles, please direct all comments to the proposal's discussion page, thanks. zen master T 22:32, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The phrase "conspiracy theory" is not a neutral way of describing something 

message: Don't know if you guys want to pick up on this. I do quite a lot of crusade history and the Battle of Hattin is sometimes said to have been on July 7 1187. The battle was where Saladin destroyed the Christian army, allowing him to take back Jerusalem. It was their most famous defeat. Most think it was really on 4 July, but 7 July is still used in some sources. They could have been trying to make a point, even if they were slightly misinformed. Just an idea. --Tefalstar (talk) 16:21, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battle of Hattin 

message: The surveillance camera videos showing the terrorists had wrong time stamps.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.73.151.249 (talk) 18:39, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wrong. Some cameras had not been corrected for the change from Greenwich Mean Time to British Summer Time. Nick Cooper (talk) 10:46, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time Stamps 

message: A recent article in the London Times (January 23, 2009) states that Jérôme Kerviel, Société Générale rogue trader made large sums of money on the day of the 7/7 "attack" 
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/industry_sectors/banking_and_finance/article5568518.ece
"It was a day of carnage that left 56 people dead and a dark shadow for ever cast over the history of London. But for Jérôme Kerviel, the French rogue trader, 7/7 was the jackpot."
“The best trading day in the history of Société Générale was September 11, 2001,” he said. “At least, that’s what one of my managers told me. It seems that profits were colossal that day.“I had a similar experience during the London attacks in July 2005.”  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.106.212.49 (talk) 04:20, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Société Générale