Talk:History of the Khitans

message: Where is the evidence that they became Muslim and when?  I have seen no such evidence.  IN fact, they were Buddhist, NOT Muslim.
sorry, forgot to sign.  Ludahai 05:04, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The confusion on my part was part due to memory, and part due to the fact that Muslim chroniclers used the expression Khirkah خركاه to refer to vast numbers of central Asian nomads becoming Muslims. The term means "tent" or "yurt" or more accurately "household living in a yurt", averaging 5 people per khirkah. For example in 349 AH (200,000 Turkmen tents), and again in 435 AH (20,000?). This term is similar to Khita خطا and hence my confusion. Those converts where other Turkic people such Uyghur, Turkmen and others. In anycase, I corrected it. KB 05:39, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Muslim? 

message: I am in the process of expanding this article.  Many things by previous editors are unsourced and are not mentioned in the source I am drawing upon to expand the article.  I have added a  designation.  Please cite or I will delete upon completion of the expansions - admittedly at least a month away as I don't expect to get to the end of Kara Khitai until then.  ludahai 魯大海 07:17, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If your sources fail to mention vital information, this is no basis for its summary deletion. I removed from the lead requests to cite that which constitutes general knowledge. --Ghirla -трёп- 11:52, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ALL information on this must be sourced or it is subject to deletion.  All of my additions are sourced from the Mote source, which is the ONLY book listed as a source on this article except for the one Britannica reference in the text of the article. ludahai 魯大海 04:20, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion 

message: Beijing was not THE capital of the Liao Dynasty, merely the Southern Capital.  Shangjing, further north, was the capital of the Dynasty.  ludahai 魯大海 10:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beijing 

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: I finally simply renamed the Khitan people (no more existing), which add really few ethnological data, into History of the Khitans + improvement of the introduction (for more history than ethnology).
So, the current situation is :
* History of the Khitans (from ~5th century to the ~14th) - general introduction to Khitans actions in history.
** History of the pre-dynastic Khitans (before 907) - not enough data to start one article (possible source: HISTORICAL DEVELOPMENT OF THE PRE-DYNASTIC KHITAN, 300p.)
** Liao Dynasty (from the 10th to the 12th)
** Kara-Khitan Khanate (12th and later) - medium article.
Help is welcome to make the introduction more... history-centered.
Yug (talk) 12:27, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear: write in Khitan people or in Liao Dynasty ? 

message: I'm currently reading "* Xu Elina-Qian, Historical Development of the Pre-Dynastic Khitan, University of Helsinki, 2005.  273 pages.", and so I plan to expand this Pre-Dynastic period.
My Plan(edit the plan) is vissible in the introduction, which I just rewritted.
Of course, I encourage you to read the Xu Elina-Qian's works (the Chap. according to the topic that you prefer), and to work with me.
Yug (talk) = IP 12:25, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pre-Dynastic (388-907) planned expansion 

message: Hi
I have just edited the article but keep coming across the date format (third month, 743) or (twelfth month, 789)
Is this a special kind of reference to Chinese months and calendar or is it actually the same as "March 743" and "December 789" ?
thanks Chaosdruid (talk) 18:59, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Third month is NOT march. Don't modify it. --Yug (talk) 14:49, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date formats 

message: @user:Nlu: Long time not seen :) If you are still admin, this article need to be split via a duplication then editing in order to keep the page's history logs. As of now we got :
* History of the Khitans (from ~5th century to the ~14th) - general introduction to Khitans actions in history.
** Section History of the pre-dynastic Khitans (before 907) - ton of text, no article.
** Section Liao Dynasty (from the 10th to the 12th) -- ~12 lines redirecting toward independent article.
** Section Kara-Khitan Khanate (12th and later) -- ~12 lines redirecting toward independent article.
It would thus be best to have 3 balanced sections redirecting toward 3 focused articles. Yug (talk) 20:09, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't believe that my involvement is per se needed.  Under WP:PROPERSPLIT, I don't think admin intervention is required procedurally or as a matter of editing privileges.  If you do run into something that actually requires admin intervention because something won't move/delete properly, please let me know the specifics so that I can specifically help you with that.  Thanks.  --Nlu (talk) 19:57, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split 

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