Talk:Igor Stravinsky/Archive 1

message: Small issue: the fourth to last paragraph in the biography jumps back in time, from the 1920s to a trip to Paris in 1911.  Also, that trip is said to be in 1910 in the second paragraph.
::I would say this is a large issue, the biography is totally out of sequence and is practically incomprehensible.--Dmz5 07:55, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I will make an attempt to address the issue; there is a fair amount of detail in the four books of conversations with Robert Craft which I have. Also, there is stuff in the biography section which doesn't belong there - comment on evolution of musical style during his work for the Ballet Russe for instance. --Stephen Burnett 13:20, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Biography out of sequence

message: I read the entry and I am a bit embarassed: too much about the man too little about his music. The anecdotal bits are fine, and amusing, but he is noted for his music not his affairs or copyright difficulties. Anyone like to tray a hand at adding some sort of evaluation of the music? TadPiotr
: Do something if you're embarrassed. Inaction is gonna keep you embarrassed forever. :-) --Menchi 21:49 21 Jul 2003 (UTC)
I think that the list of works could do with being wikified, where we have articles on a particular work.   We shouldn't assume that everyone looking at the list of works has already read through the article and noticed which works were linked there ;)  Any objections? Markalexander100 11:38, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: More music

message: anyone can help me understanding this.....
:1910, going to Paris to attend the premiere of his ballet L'oiseau de feu (The Firebird). During his stay in the city, he composed three major works for the Ballets Russes—L'oiseau de feu, Petrushka (1911), 
 so, or he went to attend the premiere of that ballet, or he wrote it during his stay...
thanks))), good night --joana 22:50, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  He completed The Firebird in 1910, then went to Paris and wrote the others. Mark1 14:21, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  oiseau de feu/help 

message: There's been a quote attributed to Stravinsky, something akin to: "Bad composers paraphrase, great composers steal" or SOMETHING like that. Anyone know the exact quote? If a good source can be provided, it'd make a nice addition too. Melodia Chaconne 9 July 2005 19:08 (UTC)
:I've normally heard it in a version attributed to T.S. Eliot: "Good poets borrow; great poets steal", or with minor variations on that (sometimes the good poets "imitate", sometimes they're not good but "mediocre" or "bad", and so on). I don't know of a source for either. It wouldn't surprise me if there are similar quotes attributed to famous architects, dancers, flimmakers, painters... --Camembert 14:44, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I am familiar with: "Good composers plagiarize, great composers steal." Can't find a source for any variant yet. Hyacinth 07:41, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous Quote on Plagiarism 

message: When studying the Rite of Spring, I remember reading somewhere that Diaghilev strategically positioned different demographics to reinforce the riotousness of the riot. If that makes sense. Can anyone corroborate that? I think it's worth including. - Leon... 
According to "The Lives of the Great Composers" by Harold C. Schonberg, the exact opposite was case:
* Hardly anybody in the audience was prepared for a score of such dissonance and ferocity, such complexity and such rhythmic oddity.  Nobody connected with the production had the faintest idea that the music would produce a visceral reaction.  As soon as the bassoon ended its phrase in the high register, at the very opening of the ballet, laughter broke out.  Soon there were whistles and catcalls.  Nobody could hear the music.  Diaghilev had the electricians switch the house lights off and on, in an effort to restore order.  Nijinsky, in the wings, yelled the rhythms to the dancers. .....  JackofOz 11:45, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orchestrated Riot 

message: Who is the painter? That should be added to the caption.--Wormsie 19:56, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New painting of Stravinsky, top of the page 

message: I think there should be something about his links to Tchaikovsky. From what I can make out from other sources Stravinsky was a bit obsessed with him?? but I can't find much about there links other that Stravinsky saw Tchaikovsky before he died. Anyone know any info about this please add it in.
:Please sign your posts on talk pages per Wikipedia:Sign your posts on talk pages. Thanks! Hyacinth 10:04, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  what about Tchaikovsky? 

message: *"'Never shall this foul music be played in my country again.' 2001, Kim Jong Il, Dear Leader of the Democratic People's Republic of Korea."
*"Perhaps Stravinsky's strongest critic was the 20th century writer Jacques de la Barin, who famously compared Stravisnky's "Rite of Spring" to the sound of an orchestra composed of a locomotive, diesel engine and artillery fire playing in dissonance. When Stravinsky was nominated for the Legion D'Honneur, de la Barin wrote the French prime minister and threatened to commit suicide."
I removed the above paragraphs from the criticism section because, though they are hilarious, I'm unable to verify them. Hyacinth 10:07, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed from criticism

message: The article says that Igor married Vera in 1940 in New York. Most sources say that they were married on 1940-03-09 in Bedford, Massachusetts. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 139.68.134.1 (talk • contribs)  14:57, 22 November 2006   (UTC)
:If you think that's correct, you can change it and provide a verifiable source by typing [source url here]. -- Cielomobile talk / contribs 02:40, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Note, you type the [source url here] right after the statement, like this. It's not the best way of referencing, but it's the simplest. -- Cielomobile talk / contribs 02:43, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Place of marriage to Vera

message: Substituted at 15:00, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment