Talk:Velvet Revolver

message: I'm going to remove the unsourced section claiming that VR played with Josh Homme at the Bonnaroo festival because I can't find any record of it having happened anywhere outside of Wikipedia (where it's unsourced) and I notice something of an edit war going on in the article's history with one person (69.182.25.159) regularly adding unsoruced and untrue info linking Josh to VR, which then gets reverted. I'm assuming this one just got missed before. Danikat (talk) 07:43, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Josh Homme Involvement

message: Sources please, I have heard no talk of this before.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.239.8.42 (talk) 22:52, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Slash has left!?

message: I haven't seen Slash singing with VR either live or on video. Does he really deserve the credit for "backing vocals"?
Kreepin Deth (talk) 14:38, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slash's backing vocals? 

message: Anyone got a source for it hitting number 10? Can't find a trace of it.PMBO 15:22, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  She Builds Quick Machines - UK Charts 

message: I removed a section saying that axl rose was joining velvet revolver because it wasn't sourced and there's no evidence for it being true.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.210.96.100 (talk) 23:20, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: guns n roses reform

message: I saw the new album being added to the article and I thought I'd look it up to cite a reference and found these sources:
*www.ultimate-guitar.com/news/upcoming_releases/velvet_revolver_reveal_new_albums_working_title.html
*www.metalunderground.com/news/details.cfm?newsid=17180
( Davehard 12:20, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: New Album - 'Libertad'

message: The previous edit showed Dave Kushner as being an ex-member of Suicidal Tendencies. While the All Music Guide shows that he has appeared on a Suicidal Tendencies record, it doesn't show him as a member of the band. It shows that he was a member of Wasted Youth and Dave Navarro's band. The VH1 biography for Velvet Revolver shows that he was also a member of the Electric Love Hogs. I have omitted any reference to his membership of Suicidal Tendencies until this can be substantiated.
Capitalistroadster 12:17, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Dave Kushner

message: Supergroup? Arent articles supposed to be neutral? This just sounds like a suck up article.
: No a supergroup is a group that is formed from members who are already famous and have already become known. Velvet Revolver are formed mainly by ex Guns N' Roses members so they are counted as a supergroup. ( Davehard 18:18, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Following Wikipedia's own definition of supergroup ("music groups comprising members of great proficiency who had already achieved fame or respect in other groups or as individual artists"), I'd say Velvet Revolver qualifies. I think it's difficult to argue that Guns 'N' Roses and Stone Temple Pilots never achieved any notable fame or respect. BinaryTed 18:18, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Supergroup?

message: The paragraph beginning "As of August 2005" needs updating.  Does anyone have info?  Can we simply make everything past-tense, assuming that the "plans" were followed-through with?    Mitchell k dwyer 21:00, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 2006 Update

message: Is this a Michael article? RickK 04:30, 31 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Misc.

message: Is Izzy an Member from VELVET REVOLVER?????--213.101.235.17 (talk) 10:31, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Izzy Stradlin 

message: I remember reading somewhere that the origin of the name of the band is a reference to Albert King's nickname "The Velvet Bulldozer".  I'll try to find the site if I can, but if someone knows about this that'd be great.Hypershadow647 (talk) 05:36, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of name? 

message: really  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.161.60.153 (talk) 20:53, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: =the main picture sucks

message: What kind of music does Velvet Revolver play? I mean, seriously, they're not grundge nor glam. Hard rock? Post-Grundge? Rock N' Roll? Alternative Rock? Just put something there! Melody and Tyranny (talk) 14:17, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre 

message: Probably worthy of mention, Scott Weiland says that the band will probably be breaking up. Doesn't sound official yet, but sounds like it'll happen at this rate.
Can i just add that the article of the break up was posted on April Fools day and is only on paragraph long. Is someone taking the mick? I reckon so  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.92.181 (talk) 14:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This source is wrong. It's using Weiland's "this is our last tour" comment as a statement they've broken up. No definitive statement has been made yet and Weiland's comment in Glasgow cannot be used as a source that they're breaking up, and neither can a rock fansite misinterpreting this quote. And considering Velvet Revolver are currently touring, "was a band" is incorrect; they're still active. Funeral 21:13, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I heard a news story on the radio that said Scott Weiland was leaving to return to Stone Temple Pilots.  However, Slash was quoted as saying that Velvet Revolver would continue with another singer.Natt the Hatt (talk) 22:09, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Slash recently said that he is using the web to find a new singer. That means they're looking for a new singer and not breaking up. A GnR reunion would be great but that's what Slash said.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaoticfables (talk • contribs) 03:01, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breaking up? 

message: Wow. Scott left. You just gotta move on.
Can someone please edit and clean up the Libertad part? It really puzzling.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.181.63.7 (talk) 18:12, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Libertad 

message: This statement appears on the page: "On July 31st, 2008 Royston Langdon, ex-lead singer of Glam Rock band, Spacehog, was announced as Velvet Revolver's new lead singer by Entertainment Weekly"
I could not find on Entertainment Weekly or any other news site that Langdon was taking over Weiland's spot.  All they say is that he's on a short list.  This site confirms such: http://hollywoodinsider.ew.com/2008/07/royston-langdon.html  What do you think? Coolmanwc4 (talk) 02:36, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you're right, I haven't seen any site actually announce him as new lead singer. Let's delete this until there is an announcement? Shlomi Hillel (talk) 18:16, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Langdon only in running for vocal spot of VR 

message: I doubt they were actually considered to be VR's singer.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.222.97 (talk) 15:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dave Mustaine and James Hetfield???? 

message: He confirmed he isn't in, so I took that paragraph out
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=102665  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.170.222.97 (talk) 21:28, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  LENNY KRAVITZ 

message: You guys got any actual evidence of these rumours, like sources? I've noticed a couple of vocalists linked to the role who I've never ehard of before, which leads me to think that someone is just making crap up if they aren't actually that person trying to scam a little extra publicity from the band's pending future ... Nearly famous writer (talk) 04:04, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rumours, rumours, rumours

message: The intro to this article seems to have a bias against Scott... For instance, when it says that Weiland was fired for erratic behavior and so forth, well... That was what Slash, Duff, and Matt said themselves. Menwhile, Weiland announced that the band was over at a show prior to his supposed "termination" as lead singer. In any event, the introduction should be more neutral... towards both parties.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.74.93.249 (talk) 01:31, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction 

message: Hi. I have an idea that would allow people to view various prospects for Scott Weilands replacement in an easier way rather than just posting sentences in the "Split from Weiland" section... How about someone ends the "Split..." section with a closing paragraph about Scott leaving and then they form a new section titled something like: "Rumored replacement singers" or something like that. And that section can have an opening statement saying "Numerous individuals have been considered for scott weilands replacement; they include:" and then below, write a list of every person who has been rumored.
It is easier to find names rather than searching through a section of the article that doesnt even have a title relevant to the fact that VR is looking for a new singer...
Anyways, please let me know what you think on this idea... I am open to criticism and it doesnt bother me if you disagree with this idea, just let me know, thanks.
Zach  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zachslash (talk • contribs) 08:35, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singer List? 

message: Neil Patrick Harris as lead singer? I'm pretty sure that was a bad joke by someone...no evidence of it elsewhere that I've seen. Kaeljae (talk) 02:12, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neil Patrick Harris? 

message: that would be the best band ever  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.117.155.45 (talk) 04:13, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scott Stapp plz 

message: It may just be because of Scott Wieland's involvement with the group, but a bit of Velvet Revolver's music sounds very grunge-y to me. I'm just going to throw this in the air and see if it sticks; Would it be worth adding "grunge" as one of their genres? 138.217.108.26 (talk) 05:46, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grunge? 

message: Can the fact that Matt invited Slash and Duff to contrbute to the Soundman soundtrack be considered the earliest incarnation? It seems no different than a simple "guest" appearance by them (e.g. Duff's debut solo album, Slash's Snakepit, etc.) and it didnt seem to lead to them forming a group. The earliest incarnation of Velvet Revolver (in my opinion) would have been Slash, Duff, Matt and Buckcherry duo Josh Todd and Keith Nelson (first people they jammed with looking to form a group) or alternatively it could be Slash, Duff, Matt, Dave and Izzy (In Slash's book he says Dave joined the group then Izzy started writing with the band, however some sources online say Dave was invited only to be the live guitarst) with Izzy suggesting that both he and Duff performing vocal duties. 
Not that big a deal, but thought it was worth a mention.
HrZ (talk) 23:04, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins: Early Incarnation? 

message: Is there really any need for a whole section based on what the other members have been doing, especially when most have articles of their own? (Loaded, Jane's Addiction Slash (album), etc) Seems a bit excessive and most (if not all) of it can be mentioned within the article. (HrZ (talk) 14:08, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Projects 

message: Myself and 63.248.11.9 are in a disagreement over the articles lead sentence. I feel that "Velvet Revolver is a hard rock supergroup consisting of former Guns N' Roses members Slash, Duff McKagan, Matt Sorum, and Dave Kushner, formerly of punk band Wasted Youth. Stone Temple Pilots vocalist Scott Weiland was Velvet Revolver's lead singer from their formation until 2008." reads better. 63.248.11.9 feels that this is too long, changing it to "Velvet Revolver is a rock supergroup consisting of guitarists Slash and Dave Kushner, bassist Duff McKagan, and drummer Matt Sorum (all former members of Guns N' Roses except Kushner, formerly of Wasted Youth). Stone Temple Pilots frontman Scott Weiland was Velvet Revolver's lead singer from 2003 until 2008." Would like to hear other editors opinions on the matter. 
:I'm in support of the longer version. In my opinion, it gives a little more detail than the shorter version. The UtahraptorTalk/Contribs 22:04, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Er, they feel the first version is too long? Because the second version is easily just as long, if not longer. Anyway, I support the first version, it reads better than the alternative. Swarm X 21:16, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead sentence 

message: See  Saemikneu (talk) 21:44, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  hiatus or rather saying unsaid breakup? 

message: Sorry to be that guy but they're done. Since none of the members have said that exactly then it shouldn't be added to the page but I want to add this common sense. They're done.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.130.166.48 (talk) 06:00, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If there is a source stating they are done, then the change will be made. McKagan recently stated that they are nowhere, but he did not say they were finished. HrZ (talk) 08:49, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Whether you agree or not is irrelevant. I personally don't see them getting back together, but until a reliable source states that they have, the article won't be changed. HrZ (talk) 17:26, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: a dictionary. there's your reliable source of the definition of "hiatus". can we change it after all 5 members die without getting back together? or will it still be a hiatus cause matt sorum never used the term "broken up" on his death bed?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.127.85.42 (talk) 01:31, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody is talking about the definition of hiatus, but whether or not they have broken up. No reliable sources exist that state they have in fact broken up, primarly due to the fact none of the band members have stated they have broken up. Any arguement to the contrary has to be supported by a reliable source per Wikipedia policies and guidelines. I suggest you read them if you are to contribute to the project: WP:V, WP:NPOV and WP:OR. Regards. HrZ (talk) 15:07, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Velvet Revolver is broken up

message: At no point has the band ever confirmed that they have 'split up'; on the contrary, the members have always insisted that they are 'on hiatus' and will get back together if they find the right vocalist for the group. Maybe the passage of time has determined that we consider them to be dissolved regardless of what claims they make but in any case a consensus on the matter should be reached. On another note, the death of Scott Weiland should not affect whether we opt to consider the band as being 'active' or not because he was no longer a member of the band at the time of his passing. 86.148.12.135 (talk) 22:09, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether they are disbanded or on hiatus, they are certainly not active. It will remain that way until the band releases something that states otherwise. DLManiac (talk) 23:19, 23 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: They may not be active but it certainly goes against the norm on Wikipedia to list members of a band with a stated 'hiatus' as disbanded. There are groups' who have been inactive for a longer period of time than VR where the most recent members are still listed as 'current'. In fact there are bands that have been inactive for longer that are listed as active. Is there a Wikipedia guideline for this kind of thing? Regards, 86.189.140.190 (talk) 15:05, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Band split? 

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