Talk:American Association (1882–1891)

message: I removed a lead paragraph sentence about how the acronym for the American Association, which was also known as the "Beer & Whiskey League", was "AA" and isn't it "coincidental" and "ironic" that "AA" also stands for "Alcoholics Anonymous".  This says nothing at all about the American Association and is definitely unencyclopedic.  Thanks, Oscar 16:16, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed bit about Alcoholics Anonymous

message: Eventhough the AA played in the early World Series, the MLB framework was only started between the NL and the AL. Therefore, the AA never was apart of MLB history except that certain franchises left the AA for the NL. I will make a clarification. Arnabdas (talk) 20:26, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I am OK with the edit, although there is still nothing absolutely clear about when the entity of Major League Baseball actually began. Most cite 1901 or 1903 as the defining year, some 1876 with the creation of the National League. The American Association, along with the Players' League, Union Association, and Federal League, are all considered "major" leagues as far as everything else goes.Neonblak talk -  21:05, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It was not Major League Baseball, but it was definitely "major league" baseball, or "top level" baseball if you want to call it that. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:28, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Baseball Bugs made the proper distinction. The AA was not apart of the organization known as Major League Baseball, but it was a "major" league. The actual MLB governing organization didn't take effect until the agreement between the American and National Leagues for the World Series championship. However, since the NL is apart of MLB, the organization known as MLB claims its birth with the National League's birth. Arnabdas (talk) 22:40, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not MLB 

message: The wiki article about the National League
goes into more detail about the demise of the AA than this article, and some of that information should be lifted from that article and replicated here.
:"Three of the teams that switched over from the AA to the NL after the AA folded following the 1891 Season, the Los Angeles Dodgers, Cincinnati Reds and the St. Louis Cardinals, ..."
According to that National League wiki article, two of these teams had already switched prior to the AA folding. 
As a short-term fix (until the demise of the AA and the legacy of its former teams is better addressed in this article) I have reworded the quoted sentence to remove the possible factual inaccuracy:
:"During the AA's existence, several teams defected over to the NL, and at the AA's demise in 1891 four more clubs joined the NL.  Three former AA clubs, the Cincinnati Reds (1889), the Los Angeles Dodgers (1890) and the St. Louis Cardinals (1891), have posted more than 10,000 lifetime major league victories."
(Note: I've taken the information in the National League article and the articles of the three clubs as being factually correct without verification.)
- A Carbine Flash (talk) 06:03, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  AA teams joining the NL and the demise of the AA