Talk:Shoggoth

message: The bolded portion of this sentence was added a couple of years ago: "The character of the Mad Arab, Abdul Alhazred, found the mere idea of their existence on Earth terrifying as many characters from Lovecraft's stories do."  I'm not that familiar with HPL's mythos, but it seems reasonably clear to me that the Mad Arab being terrified is significant considering his knowledge of terrible, elder things.  Other characters being terrified of a monster is not worthy of mention.  Plus the phrasing was very difficult to read!  I decided to be bold and removed that portion of the sentence.
70.199.197.43 (talk) 00:03, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Mad Arab terrified

message: This page was proposed for deletion January 2005.  The discussion is archived at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Shoggoth.  Joyous 18:29, Jan 23, 2005 (UTC)
Edit-locked from adding this vote, which I'll place here in case it illuminates anything...
*Keep.  CfD seems entirely filled with non sequiturs. Only conceivable reason for deletion would be notability, if the focus on genre items is deemed too great. (But this is by far from the 'worst' such example, and isn't the focus in any event self-defining by WP's users?) Alai 18:44, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion

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BetacommandBot 19:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Shoggoth.jpg

message: Clarification and source is required here on almost everything - especially when dealing with a subject as nebulous as this: which books/authors/games/films/comics describe the material in Origin and History section? There is no point writing about a fictional entity as though factual and citing evidence only on the Talk page - every property that is described should be ascribed to a particular author and story.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.192.137 (talk) 23:19, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I got the binary fission bit from At The Mountains of Madness, specifically this: "On land the great reptiles proved highly tractable; but the Shoggoths of the sea, reproducing by fission and acquiring a dangerous degree of accidental intelligence, presented for a time a formidable problem." CABAL (talk) 03:59, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

text: You probably mean The Blob. I agree in one sense: did Lovecraft originate the amorphous monster idea, or were they in a tradition? Did they originate with the discovery of amoebas? JöG (talk) 19:33, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  CLARIFICATION 

message: A load of ripe  fancruft! I love shoggoths but the article talks about the Cthulhu Mythos as if it's a coherent canon, or even real.
The "later appearances" list on this page is just a bunch of things that some user thinks resemble the shoggoth. In many cases there's little similarity, or it's just a very casual allusion that is hardly notable.
Does the shoggoth merit its own article? The creature essentially begins and ends in one book. The sources cited for the page (Joshi, Chaosium etc) are accurate, but they don't establish any notability for shoggoths beyond the notability of At The Mountains Of Madness itself.
I'm gonna clean up the fancruft and OR, but in the long term it might be better to relegate the article's contents to a section in the AtMoM article.
twl_corinthian (talk) 20:00, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean by saying that the Cthulhu Mythos isn't real? It's real enough to have an article. I do agree that the later appearances section needs pruning.--Auric  talk 22:25, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean the Mythos is a group of fictional things. The article said stuff like "The Old Ones may have done such-and-such, or it may have been due to..." etc, which (presumably inadvertantly) implies that it's a matter of fact rather than fiction. For fictional events it's better to say "The Old Ones are described as X, or in some sources as Y" etc. twl_corinthian (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 00:23, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious article 

message: Is their calling notable? Hcobb (talk) 18:46, 22 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tekeli-li