Talk:Athlete

message: I know it is pc to say sportsperson, but in this case i fell it may be a severe disservice to wikipedia uses.  Most people never hear the term, it is just sportsman.  We should use sportsman because it is more commonly known and used.  Political correctness in this case just causes confusion and a misunderstanding.  We do not call it sportspersonship do we? no...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 164.106.22.210 (talk) 18:35, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Falls under . The alternative is not sportsman: it's sportsman or -woman, which is in fact much worse. Of course, the page should actually still be at athlete which solves the problem nicely (see below) — LlywelynII 08:35, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political Correctness 

message: It would be wise to keep to exceptional examples of such athletes. In particular, there is no point in naming athletes who don't even have a wikipedia entry, unless this is to become a list of all-around athletes. Because of that I have (more than once) removed alleged all-around athletes that did not fulfil these requirements. --rimshotstalk 09:10, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  All-around Athlete 

message: === Expansion of definition ===
When I think of a sportsperson, i think not only of the participants but those that are "sports figures."  A sports figure would be a coach, or owner, or perhaps even a mascot (like the San Diego Chicken) although that one i'm VERY IFFY about. Would that be acceptable to add? Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  05:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sportspeople not only players

message: When I think of a sportsperson, i think not only of the participants but those that are "sports figures."  A sports figure would be a coach, or owner, or perhaps even a mascot (like the San Diego Chicken) although that one i'm VERY IFFY about. Would that be acceptable to add? Juan Miguel Fangio| ►Chat  05:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion of definition 

message: Earthlyreason's Collins Dictionary citation and comments provide clarity as to the British usage of the word "Athlete" to generally mean a sports competitor. SillyFolkBoy said he would support changing this page's name to "Athlete" on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disambiguation. I believe changing this page to "Athlete" will clear up ambiguity like the comments here about sportsperson(s) being coaches, owners, officials, mascots, etc. TommyKirchhoff (talk) 14:32, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur, I was astonished to punch in the perfectly servicable English word “athlete” only to find a disambiguation page linking to “athlete (sports)”, which itself redirected to the absurdly pretentious neologism “sportsperson.” This silly state of affairs is apparently the result of a move from Athlete to here in 2007 over purported British/American English confusion. 98.155.130.227 (talk) 07:41, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I also concur for a variety of reasons. Will start the discussion below. — LlywelynII 08:35, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propose namechange to "Athlete" 

message: *Support. The nomination explains so thoroughly there isn't really anything to add. Egsan Bacon (talk) 14:32, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: *Comment should athletics similarly be changed, to point to sport and be displaced to athletics (disambiguation) ? -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 01:57, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: :Per "(athlete)" -- new requests for redisambiguation  -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 08:29, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Per my talk page, I'm now going through these to fix incoming links before repointing them to disambiguation pages. If anyone wants to assist, feel free. After that's finished, I will propose another tranche of renames, although anyone may want to do that themselves as well. (especially if the next tranche falls off the end of my worklist) -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 06:38, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: On hold pending more participation in the discussion at WT:SPORTS. -- 65.94.169.222 (talk) 07:31, 4 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: (athlete)

message: Removed the reference to Jim Thorpe playing association football, professional or otherwise, as there is no mention of him playing it either on his wikipedia page or in his biography on the official Jim Thorpe website https://www.cmgww.com/sports/thorpe/ 82.27.104.216 (talk) 06:27, 21 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jim Thorpe 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion 

message: Per Wikipedia’s image selection guidelines at MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE, MOS:LEADIMAGE, and MOS:DECORATION, which of the following two images is better suited as a lead image that offers the best overall encyclopedic benefit to readers of this Athlete article? Image A? Or Image B?
===Image A===
 Mrbeastmodeallday (talk) 07:47, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You have been undone multiple times, by more than one editor. The caption on your proposed image is ridiculously long. It does not appear to be an improvement to the article. It's a long paragraph that does not belong in the lead. As a challenged edit your image stasy out unless there is consensus here to include it. Please stop restoring it. Meters (talk) 19:34, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: I prefer the old image, as the new caption text is overly long. Second may give the impression that you're on the wrong page, as it feel more about a specific sport. Femke (talk) 20:14, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: MOS:CAPSUCCINCT 204.237.49.127 (talk) 20:44, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: , please read MOS:CAPTION.  End of story. It's not succinct. You can cite any other policy, but as 204.237.49.127 mentioned MOS:CAPSUCCINCT applies too. It's not succinct. It includes superfluous details like about someone falling down, which is irrelevant to athletes. This can be suitable for alt-text, not a caption. X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 21:39, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: , I highly urge you to read the article. Nowhere does it mention the word "team", which is crucial to the relevance of your photo and its inclusion into the article. Your image belongs at Team sport, and there is already an ice hockey image there. X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 22:06, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: Please refrain from using profanity and condescending tone, and I quite frankly don't want to explain the fact that a photo of a team sport does not belong on an article about athletes. Team sports is dedicated to athletes who are engaged in a team sport. X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 22:08, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: That isn't even the issue anymore, the inclusion of a  photo on a page about the individual  is simply not relevant! To put it this way: it's like including a photo of Great White Shark in the article Herd. Same district, wrong avenue. X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 22:13, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: Yes , if you could find a suitable free image that had a singular athlete competing in their respective sport, that would be very suitable. For example, Mo Farah running the 10,000m at the 2012 Olympic Games, or any other notable athlete competing at a notable event. All work. X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 22:29, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: Shooting a puck implies you are playing hockey. No team sports. It doesn't matter what the skill is, running and jumping are considered track & field, literally "athletics". Lifting must be an image of a person engaging in a sanctioned weightlifting competition, such as Olympic weightlifting, IFBB, or the IPF. Pictures of someone lifting at the gym does not qualify. Instead of bickering over these minute details, I highly suggest you address the banners at the top of the page, seeing as how you have far more time than me. X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 22:53, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: Current image of Thorpe is fine for the lead.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 01:12, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree. I think Bo Jackson or Duke Kahanamoku would be on par, but no change is necessary. BD2412 T 03:22, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

text: Agreed that an action pic would be great to include as the lead image; I'm not opposed to the current picture of Thorpe, but I think showing an individual in motion would be more impactful for this article. I took a look at Quality and Featured images from the "Athletics" category on Commons, and a few pictures that appeared promising to me were this picture of Isabellah Andersson, this picture of Usain Bolt, and this picture of Harold Correa. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 18:51, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Some good hunting there. I like the Andersson pic, because it combines the classic event, the marathon, with a modern look of a female athlete. HiLo48 (talk) 21:10, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: There are undoubtedly many images that would acceptable. In the interests of helping bring this to a close I'll also support using the Andersson image. Meters (talk) 21:33, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which image is better suited for the lead? 

message: Mrbeastmodeallday (talk) 07:47, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Image A

message: Mrbeastmodeallday (talk) 07:48, 25 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You have been undone multiple times, by more than one editor. The caption on your proposed image is ridiculously long. It does not appear to be an improvement to the article. It's a long paragraph that does not belong in the lead. As a challenged edit your image stasy out unless there is consensus here to include it. Please stop restoring it. Meters (talk) 19:34, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: I prefer the old image, as the new caption text is overly long. Second may give the impression that you're on the wrong page, as it feel more about a specific sport. Femke (talk) 20:14, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: MOS:CAPSUCCINCT 204.237.49.127 (talk) 20:44, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: , please read MOS:CAPTION.  End of story. It's not succinct. You can cite any other policy, but as 204.237.49.127 mentioned MOS:CAPSUCCINCT applies too. It's not succinct. It includes superfluous details like about someone falling down, which is irrelevant to athletes. This can be suitable for alt-text, not a caption. X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 21:39, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: , I highly urge you to read the article. Nowhere does it mention the word "team", which is crucial to the relevance of your photo and its inclusion into the article. Your image belongs at Team sport, and there is already an ice hockey image there. X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 22:06, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: Please refrain from using profanity and condescending tone, and I quite frankly don't want to explain the fact that a photo of a team sport does not belong on an article about athletes. Team sports is dedicated to athletes who are engaged in a team sport. X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 22:08, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: That isn't even the issue anymore, the inclusion of a  photo on a page about the individual  is simply not relevant! To put it this way: it's like including a photo of Great White Shark in the article Herd. Same district, wrong avenue. X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 22:13, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: Yes , if you could find a suitable free image that had a singular athlete competing in their respective sport, that would be very suitable. For example, Mo Farah running the 10,000m at the 2012 Olympic Games, or any other notable athlete competing at a notable event. All work. X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 22:29, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: Shooting a puck implies you are playing hockey. No team sports. It doesn't matter what the skill is, running and jumping are considered track & field, literally "athletics". Lifting must be an image of a person engaging in a sanctioned weightlifting competition, such as Olympic weightlifting, IFBB, or the IPF. Pictures of someone lifting at the gym does not qualify. Instead of bickering over these minute details, I highly suggest you address the banners at the top of the page, seeing as how you have far more time than me. X-750 Rust In Peace... Polaris 22:53, 25 May 2022 (UTC)

text: Current image of Thorpe is fine for the lead.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 01:12, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree. I think Bo Jackson or Duke Kahanamoku would be on par, but no change is necessary. BD2412 T 03:22, 26 May 2022 (UTC)

text: Agreed that an action pic would be great to include as the lead image; I'm not opposed to the current picture of Thorpe, but I think showing an individual in motion would be more impactful for this article. I took a look at Quality and Featured images from the "Athletics" category on Commons, and a few pictures that appeared promising to me were this picture of Isabellah Andersson, this picture of Usain Bolt, and this picture of Harold Correa. ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 18:51, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Some good hunting there. I like the Andersson pic, because it combines the classic event, the marathon, with a modern look of a female athlete. HiLo48 (talk) 21:10, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: There are undoubtedly many images that would acceptable. In the interests of helping bring this to a close I'll also support using the Andersson image. Meters (talk) 21:33, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Image B

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