Talk:Baltic Sea cruiseferries

message: I have heard that the Baltic Sea cruiseferries are the biggest compared to their travel distance in the entire world. Atlantic cruiseferries are bigger but they travel a much longer distance. Can someone verify this claim? JIP | Talk 19:19, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Atlantic cruiseferries as in reference to which ships? To the best of my knowledge there are no cruiseferries doing transatlantic voyages, and most cruiseferries in traffic along either shore of the Atlantic are mostly older generation cruiseferries originally built for the Baltic Sea trade. - Kjet 20:39, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ship size

message: I'm for one going to ask before swapping pictures in the article... How about using this or this picture instead of the current one, as the current one (still) is already featured in the Silja Symphony article, plus I think those two illustrate even better how narrow the Kustaanmiekka strait actually is. - Kjet 10:09, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Swapped images. Chose the the Symphony image. It really shows how large the ship is. Too bad it is not in a higher resolution; it would be nice to see the people on the upper deck in detail. The M/S Mariella image is in ways even better, but it does not have the crowd of people waving on the Suomenlinna side. Besides it is already used three times, including the Kustaanmiekka article (redirect). -- Petri Krohn 11:51, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture talk

message: === Principal Baltic cruise-ferries ===
Those carrying passengers and operating nearly year-round.  This is a simplification and generalisation covering the main route that each ship operates on as of 2007.  Routes and lines will have variations at weekends, during major sporting events and owing to the seasonal demands of late-Autumn, Christmas and peak summer.  High-speed vessels have limitations preventing their operation during the icy winter.
Ship                         	GT                           	Route                        	Line                         	Roundtrip                    	Notes
Large ferries                	Large ferries                	Large ferries                	Large ferries                	Large ferries                	Large ferries
M/S Superfast VII            	30,285                       	Rostock—Helsinki—Tallinn     	Tallink                      	72-hour                      	Two nights north, one night south
M/S Superfast VIII           	30,285                       	Rostock—Helsinki—Tallinn     	Tallink                      	72-hour                      	Two nights north, one night south
M/S Superfast IX             	30,285                       	Rostock—Helsinki—Tallinn     	Tallink                      	72-hour                      	Two nights north, one night south
M/S Silja Serenade           	58,376                       	Stockholm—Åland—Helsinki     	Silja Line                   	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Silja Symphony           	58,377                       	Stockholm—Åland—Helsinki     	Silja Line                   	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Gabriella                	35,492                       	Stockholm—Åland—Helsinki     	Viking                       	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Mariella                 	37,860                       	Stockholm—Åland—Helsinki     	Viking                       	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Romantika                	39,864                       	Stockholm—Åland—Tallinn      	Tallink                      	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Victoria                 	40,975                       	Stockholm—Åland—Tallinn      	Tallink                      	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Silja Europa             	59,914                       	Turku—Åland—Stockholm        	Silja Line                   	24-hour                      	Overnight, daytime return
M/S Isabella                 	35,154                       	Turku—Åland—Stockholm        	Viking                       	24-hour                      	Overnight, daytime return
M/S Silja Festival           	33,818                       	Stockholm—Åland—Turku        	Silja Line                   	24-hour                      	Overnight, daytime return
M/S Amorella                 	34,384                       	Stockholm—Åland—Turku        	Viking                       	24-hour                      	Overnight, daytime return
Large ferries on short routes	Large ferries on short routes	Large ferries on short routes	Large ferries on short routes	Large ferries on short routes	Large ferries on short routes
M/S Cinderella               	46,398                       	Stockholm—Åland              	Viking                       	24-hour                      	Moored overnight in Mariehamn.
M/S Galaxy                   	48,915                       	Tallinn—Helsinki             	Tallink                      	24-hour                      	Moored overnight in Tallinn.
M/S Star                     	33,000                       	Tallinn—Helsinki             	Tallink                      	twice daily                  	Moored overnight in Helsinki
M/S Rosella                  	16,850                       	Helsinki—Tallinn             	Viking                       	twice daily                  	Moored overnight in Tallinn
Smaller ferries              	Smaller ferries              	Smaller ferries              	Smaller ferries              	Smaller ferries              	Smaller ferries
M/S Regina Baltica           	13,878                       	Stockholm—Riga               	Tallink                      	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Vana Tallinn             	10,002                       	Stockholm—Riga               	Tallink                      	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Ålandsfärjan             	6,336                        	Mariehamn—Kappelskä          	Viking                       	2-3 daily                    	Local transport
HSC SuperSeaCat Three        	4,465                        	Tallinn—Helsinki             	SuperSeaCat                  	1-2 daily                    	Premium commuter services
HSC SuperSeaCat Four         	4,465                        	Tallinn—Helsinki             	SuperSeaCat                  	1-2 daily                    	Premium commuter services
fi:HSC Nordic Jet            	2,273                        	Tallinn—Helsinki             	fi:Nordic Jet Line           	3 daily                      	Premium commuter services
fi:HSC Baltic Jet            	2,273                        	Tallinn—Helsinki             	fi:Nordic Jet Line           	3 daily                      	Premium commuter services
—Sladen 18:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A very good idea, but a few pointers: 1) as this an article on Baltic Sea cruiseferries, Ålandfärjan, the SuperSeaCats nor Nordic Jet vessels wouldn't belong there. Or if those are included so should be Eckerö Line's vessels (Nordlandia should be in anyway), RG Line vessels, Georg Ots, Destination Gotland vessels and probably a bunch of others I'm forgetting right now. 2) Star is a thrice-daily service. 3) Stena Line, TT-Line and Polferries also operate cruiseferries on the Baltic. DFDS Seaways and Color Line operate cruiseferries on routes that are partially within the Baltic. 4) The separation into "large ferries" and "large ferries on short routes" seems a bit odd. Personally I'd put them all in the same list, and if further subsectioning is needed I'd go with breking them down based on the traffic area. -- Kjet 22:51, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Also notice that some tonnages are in Gross Register Tons (GRT) and some in Gross Tons (GT), which aren't interchangable. The most notable difference is Regina Baltica - although she's only 13,878 GRT, she's actually larger than Rosella due to the way GRT are calculated. -- Kjet 23:05, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of ... 

message: Those carrying passengers and operating nearly year-round.  This is a simplification and generalisation covering the main route that each ship operates on as of 2007.  Routes and lines will have variations at weekends, during major sporting events and owing to the seasonal demands of late-Autumn, Christmas and peak summer.  High-speed vessels have limitations preventing their operation during the icy winter.
Ship                         	GT                           	Route                        	Line                         	Roundtrip                    	Notes
Large ferries                	Large ferries                	Large ferries                	Large ferries                	Large ferries                	Large ferries
M/S Superfast VII            	30,285                       	Rostock—Helsinki—Tallinn     	Tallink                      	72-hour                      	Two nights north, one night south
M/S Superfast VIII           	30,285                       	Rostock—Helsinki—Tallinn     	Tallink                      	72-hour                      	Two nights north, one night south
M/S Superfast IX             	30,285                       	Rostock—Helsinki—Tallinn     	Tallink                      	72-hour                      	Two nights north, one night south
M/S Silja Serenade           	58,376                       	Stockholm—Åland—Helsinki     	Silja Line                   	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Silja Symphony           	58,377                       	Stockholm—Åland—Helsinki     	Silja Line                   	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Gabriella                	35,492                       	Stockholm—Åland—Helsinki     	Viking                       	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Mariella                 	37,860                       	Stockholm—Åland—Helsinki     	Viking                       	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Romantika                	39,864                       	Stockholm—Åland—Tallinn      	Tallink                      	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Victoria                 	40,975                       	Stockholm—Åland—Tallinn      	Tallink                      	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Silja Europa             	59,914                       	Turku—Åland—Stockholm        	Silja Line                   	24-hour                      	Overnight, daytime return
M/S Isabella                 	35,154                       	Turku—Åland—Stockholm        	Viking                       	24-hour                      	Overnight, daytime return
M/S Silja Festival           	33,818                       	Stockholm—Åland—Turku        	Silja Line                   	24-hour                      	Overnight, daytime return
M/S Amorella                 	34,384                       	Stockholm—Åland—Turku        	Viking                       	24-hour                      	Overnight, daytime return
Large ferries on short routes	Large ferries on short routes	Large ferries on short routes	Large ferries on short routes	Large ferries on short routes	Large ferries on short routes
M/S Cinderella               	46,398                       	Stockholm—Åland              	Viking                       	24-hour                      	Moored overnight in Mariehamn.
M/S Galaxy                   	48,915                       	Tallinn—Helsinki             	Tallink                      	24-hour                      	Moored overnight in Tallinn.
M/S Star                     	33,000                       	Tallinn—Helsinki             	Tallink                      	twice daily                  	Moored overnight in Helsinki
M/S Rosella                  	16,850                       	Helsinki—Tallinn             	Viking                       	twice daily                  	Moored overnight in Tallinn
Smaller ferries              	Smaller ferries              	Smaller ferries              	Smaller ferries              	Smaller ferries              	Smaller ferries
M/S Regina Baltica           	13,878                       	Stockholm—Riga               	Tallink                      	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Vana Tallinn             	10,002                       	Stockholm—Riga               	Tallink                      	48-hour                      	Overnight, return next night
M/S Ålandsfärjan             	6,336                        	Mariehamn—Kappelskä          	Viking                       	2-3 daily                    	Local transport
HSC SuperSeaCat Three        	4,465                        	Tallinn—Helsinki             	SuperSeaCat                  	1-2 daily                    	Premium commuter services
HSC SuperSeaCat Four         	4,465                        	Tallinn—Helsinki             	SuperSeaCat                  	1-2 daily                    	Premium commuter services
fi:HSC Nordic Jet            	2,273                        	Tallinn—Helsinki             	fi:Nordic Jet Line           	3 daily                      	Premium commuter services
fi:HSC Baltic Jet            	2,273                        	Tallinn—Helsinki             	fi:Nordic Jet Line           	3 daily                      	Premium commuter services
—Sladen 18:22, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A very good idea, but a few pointers: 1) as this an article on Baltic Sea cruiseferries, Ålandfärjan, the SuperSeaCats nor Nordic Jet vessels wouldn't belong there. Or if those are included so should be Eckerö Line's vessels (Nordlandia should be in anyway), RG Line vessels, Georg Ots, Destination Gotland vessels and probably a bunch of others I'm forgetting right now. 2) Star is a thrice-daily service. 3) Stena Line, TT-Line and Polferries also operate cruiseferries on the Baltic. DFDS Seaways and Color Line operate cruiseferries on routes that are partially within the Baltic. 4) The separation into "large ferries" and "large ferries on short routes" seems a bit odd. Personally I'd put them all in the same list, and if further subsectioning is needed I'd go with breking them down based on the traffic area. -- Kjet 22:51, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Also notice that some tonnages are in Gross Register Tons (GRT) and some in Gross Tons (GT), which aren't interchangable. The most notable difference is Regina Baltica - although she's only 13,878 GRT, she's actually larger than Rosella due to the way GRT are calculated. -- Kjet 23:05, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Principal Baltic cruise-ferries 

message: Note that the History section of this article is under construction. It should be finished in a day or two. JIP | Talk 01:09, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
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