Talk:History of Macau

message: Does anyone know why China refused to accept the return of the colony 1966 and 1974? I can think of many possible reasons, but I'd like to know the official and real ones. Mlewan 17:54, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was publicly said that since it was still not clear Hong Kong would be handed to the PRC by 1974, the PRC government decided to postpone the fate of Macau.  In the case of 1966, many pundits in Chinese circle believe Mao Zedong and Zhou Enlai still wanted to use Macau and Hong Kong as windows to the West and places to plan and stage intelligence work against Taiwan. Besides, they know the market economies of these two regions were what propped up the PRC, through emergency monies posted back to the mainland by the relatives in Hong Kong and Macau.  The pro-Beijing insiders have neither confirmed nor denied this hypothesis, meaning they tactily confirm the reality of this theory.--JNZ 10:27, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was the return refused? 

message: Should we change the Chinese cities' name to the ones that were in use at the time the historical settings took place?  For instance, we should say Canton rather than Guangzhou in the context of events that took place prior to 1949.  It would be inappropriate to talk of Leningrad in the context of 1905 aborted revolution, and The Siege of St. Petersberg is similarly absurd.  --JNZ 10:27, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  English Names for Chinese cities 

message: Most people today know ONLY about macau gambling, but yet there is no mention of that here?  With Macau on the verge of becoming larger than the las vegas strip, I think it should be included as well.  I only heard some things about the guy who started the casinos there, and not sure what is actual facts.  Anyone else ??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.50.18.154 (talk) 03:52, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, I added in a few facts from the Gambling in Macau page related to history and major construction in recent years. --Azchael (talk) 09:37, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why no mention of gambling 

message: This edit  is not good and runs contrary to the style of 99.999% of Wikipedia.  TOC's should be automatically generated from the section headings, otherwise if someone changes a section headings and forgets to update the TOC, it will all stop working.  The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick t 11:17, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  TOC 

message: According to literature available at the Museo Maritimo in Macau, a large contingent of the defenders of the 1622 Dutch attack, who slew the main assault on Guia Hill, were black slaves from Angola / Mozambique. The term 'Macanese' was not in use then.
Also, the name Ciudad Nome de Deus Macau No Ha Otra Mais Leal was appended after Spanish rule ended (1640?), to mark the fact that Macau had refused to swear fealty to the Spanish crown during the 80 years of union. 81.108.137.226 (talk) 02:01, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battle of 1622 

message: "In 1637, increasing suspicion of the intentions of Spanish and Portuguese Catholic missionaries in Japan finally led the shogun to seal Japan off from all foreign influence" then "The crisis was compounded two years later by the loss of Malacca to the Dutch in 1641, damaging the link with Goa.". 1637+2=1641? Avihu (talk) 07:57, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mathematics 

message: Somebody has written a paragraph, and placed it under the "Portuguese settlement" section about an alleged portuguese slave traffic and kidnapping of chinese boys. (Don't confuse this alleged slave trade with the coolies trade in the 19th century, that's in another section, whether it belongs to slave trade, or whether was done by the portuguese that's another story.). Now, about this "portuguese settlers in china" slave trade. Well I followed all of the sources the author place about this alleged portuguese slave trade, and I found no reference to this.Some sources are in English, some sources are in Portuguese. Most of these "so called" sources are just general content books about the history of Macau or about slave trade in general. It seems thereby that whoever wrote this section, just "dumped" a bunch of "sources" to make it look more reliable or scientific. As an example, I will use the ones writen in portuguese.
* http://books.google.com/books?id=l2qSNQnlQGcC&pg=PA101&dq=%C3%A1+na+d%C3%A9cada+de+1520,+os+portugueses+compravam+numerosos+chineses+(homens,+mulheres+e+crian%C3%A7as)+para+vend%C3%AA-los+como+escravos&hl=en#v=snippet&q=escravos&f=false . This is not an academic historian book. It's just some brazillian-japanese journalist author ramblings non-fiction work. There's nothing about Macau in this book. The autho doesnt even speak japanese, http://www.okinawa.com.br/entrevistas/joseyamashiro.htm . The only thing to find is the author writing about aleged japanese slaves. He does note cite any historic records or provides references to official documents. His writing is abundant with "ao que parece" ( "so it seems" / "we might even think that") and this kind of language.Conjectures and suppositions.
 
* http://books.google.com/books?id=wNZ6AAAAMAAJ&dq=escravo+Chin%C3%AAs+lisboa&q=escravo+Chin%C3%AAs+lisboa+macau&hl=en . Another book written by brazilians about china and brazil. There is nothing about slavery, nor macau. There's a reference (not documented) about  the chinese emperor Qianlong ordering the cantonese and portuguese citizens not to sell their own children
I hereby will await proper sources (no book "dumping") to be cited, before deleting this section.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.247.43.180 (talk) 17:07, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alleged  slavery and kidnapping of chinese boys during the establishment of portuguese settlement 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I will be changing the dating system on this article away from the biased, Christian based AD/BC to the common era system.  This will bring the article into alignment with secular usage such as https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_India.  If you object, please state why you are ok with the biased system here. Eupnevma (talk) 20:01, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Before you go changing AC BC please read Wikipedia:Manual of Style, specifically MOS:VAR. Also, instead of hundreds of discussions regarding the changes on hundreds of different talk pages, get a conversation going here: Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style. Thanks! Masterhatch (talk) 20:29, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change dating system to Common Era