Talk:Adolf Hitler/Archive 5

message: Has anyone heard of Karl Ossietz? I've recently placed this article up for votes for deletion, because I can't find any good information on him via Internet searches. I'd appreciate any info anyone has to add at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Karl Ossietz. Thanks. func(talk) 23:17, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Karl Ossietz? 

message: So is that saying about Hitler having only one testicle an urban legend or does it have basis in reality?
:See Hitler has only got one ball Mintguy (T) 02:26, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uniball? 

message: I linked to the page about the the specific term for the annexion of Austria (Anschluss) in the article header as well. While the "Anschluss" page is not a great article yet, I think the topic is important enough (as one of the main causes of the war) to deserve a link in the header... - Marcika 00:15, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to annexion of Austria in header 

message: Hitler’s Mein Kampf is not widely available in Germany. His legacy, as interpreted by some historians, has caused him to be one of the most denounced men in history. Other historians, however, point out that Hitler's attempt to improve the economic and political standing and conditions of his people and how he went about it, was, in essence, no different than that of many other leaders in history and thus this denouncement is hypocritical and not completely objective.
How was Hitler "no different" than leaders like Churchill or FDR? At least they didn't gas people in attempting to improve economic and political standing. Who were the historians who said this denouncement is hypocritical and not not objective? This all sounds very stupid to me and should be edited. Wareware 04:44, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The paragraph is completely NPOV. The historians you are scoffing at are referred to as "revisionist" generally, and there are lots of them. If you want the article to say "Hitler was a horrible, horrible man, worst guy ever, yadayadayada" your in the wrong place. Please review NPOV. If you have some sources you'd like to cite showing some general sentiment regarding Hitler, feel free. Sam [Spade] 14:55, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you name some of these revisionists?  Are they legitimate revisionist historians, or are they merely writers of revisionist history? Jayjg 16:09, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course I can, David Irving, Ernst Zündel, James Bacque, Ernst Mayo, etc... If thats not a long enough list for you, I'm sure a few dozen more can be come up w if everybody pitches in ;) And of course you don't think their legitamate! Revisionist history is a word for historians people don't like. The point is, not everybody is unanimous is saying Hitler was wicked beyond all measure. Sam [Spade] 22:11, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and BTW, my opinion, that the guy was demented from too much methamphetimines, qualudes, and syphillis, and even if he had been mentally with it wouldn't have known much about the micro-management anyhow due to fuhrerprinzp, is a fairly common take also, even amongst "respected" historians (to be frank I don't know if I respect any historians, but thats a story for another day ;) Sam [Spade] 22:15, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

text: I'm not surprised that some of these people are also holocaust denialists. Wareware 22:17, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Their all holocaust denialists, I went to the holocaust denial page and copied a few names down quick ;) Sam [Spade] 22:27, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Got it.  Editing to reflect. Jayjg 23:09, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  npov 

message: For who ever removed this reference, have you read the article, or the refrences for it? I can give you reams of info on the subject. As far as Hitler or Nazism being popular in some parts of the Islamic world... of course I can find some cites, but is it really necessary? Do you actually dispute that? Sam [Spade] 13:43, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I just saw Andries edit. As far as how many people worship Hitler as a deity, or view him as an Avatar of Vishnu, I am concerned about the possibility of verifying that. I know that the concept has been involved with both Hindu nationalism (a huge movement in India), with South american politics, and of course with Black metal, and neo-nazi Ásatrú scene. Quantifying this seems to me a difficult matter. Sam [Spade] 14:13, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: Savitri Devi isn't a guy, she was a girl, I get the impression you didn't read very thoroughly. For example, see Miguel Serrano. Theres no problem verifying that some believe it, the problem is in quantifying the sheer numbers. Sam [Spade] 15:03, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: The fact that I don't have a handy link to census data on an obscure cult like this one in no way makes it any less notable that the man is worshipped by some, and that many see a link between Nazism and the occult. Since you seem disinterested in my copious references, I have requested page protection. it would be nice if you researched a bit, but I suppose I can't force you. Sam [Spade] 16:10, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: I removed the point by point critiques, you can place them outside the links section itself if you care to, thank you very much. Sam [Spade] 18:33, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I was only trying to save space on this talk page. I have added the point by point rebuttal at the end of a 'clean' copy of your references. jguk 19:34, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Hoorah! Sam [Spade] 00:25, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Nazi mysticism]] 

message: ====Wikilinks====
*Nazi mysticism
*Wewelsburg
*The Nexus (journal)
*Lanz von Liebenfels
*Karl Maria Wiligut
*Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke
*Julius Evola
*Cosmotheism
*Kalki#Nazism
*Savitri Devi
*Miguel Serrano
====Books====
* Black Sun: Aryan Cults, Esoteric Nazism and the Politics of Identity by Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, 2001,  (reviews 1 2)
* Arktos: The Polar Myth in Science, Symbolism, and Nazi Survival by Joscelyn Godwin, 1996, 
* Himmler's Crusade: The Nazi Expedition to Find the Origins of the Aryan Race by Christopher Hale, Wiley 2003.   
* The Unknown Hitler, Wulf Schwartzwaller, Berkeley Books 1990
* Hitler's Priestess: Savitri Devi, the Hindu-Aryan Myth and Neo-Nazism, Nicholas Goodrick-Clarke, 1998. 
====External links====
* Revealing the True Features of Dalai -- The Dalai Lama critisized for Nazi connections
*  FASCIST OCCULTISM AND ITS CLOSE RELATIONSHIP TO BUDDHIST TANTRISM
* Racism; Extreme Rightism; and Occultism. Criticism
* Quadrant magazine - Review of Black Sun
* Esoteric Hitlerism: Savitri Devi; Miguel Serrano
* Esoteric Hitlerism: Idealism, the Third Reich and the Essence of National-Socialism by David Myatt
* Fascist Occultism and its Close Relationship to Buddhist Tantrism, chapter 12 of The Shadow of the Dalai Lama
* Hitler, Buddha, Krishna: An unholy alliance from the Third Reich to the present day
*http://www.zdf.de/ZDFde/mediathek/0,1903,VI-2013577,00.html Short video documentary  by ZDF (German TV station) in German language about Himmler's interest in mysticism
*http://www.relinfo.ch/thule/infotxt.html Article on the website of the "Evangelische Reformierte" Church of the Canton of Zürich, Switzerland in German language by Regina Zoller about the Thule-society and about the question to what extent Nazism was influenced by occultism
*Article about the Vril society by Eric P. Wijnants 
*Channel 4 microsite on Himmler and the Ahnenerbe
*NARA Research Room:    Captured German and Related Records on Microform in the National Archives: Captured German Records Filmed at Berlin (American Historical Association, 1960). Microfilm Publication T580. 1,002 rolls
* The Nazi Occult Myth, P.1: Ariosophy and Hubbe-Schleiden proto Nazis? - Critisizes the sugestion that all Nazi's were non-Christian]
A point by point rebuttal by jguk follows (the rebuttals are in bold):
====Wikilinks====
*Nazi mysticism I am not disputing that this should be an article. And this article is correctly linked into Nazism. The article contains nothing to suggest it is anything but a sub subtopic for Hitler at the very most. This article is a summary article outlining the main features about Hitler, the man. You have not shown your point is notable enough to appear in this particular article.
*Wewelsburg This article is about a castle. There is nothing in it to support the assertion that enough people deify Hitler for that point to be made in this article. In fact, there is nothing about deification in this article at all.
*The Nexus (journal)This article is about a magazine. The only possible reference to Hitler being a deity in this article is a reference to a website called Priestess of Hitler:Savitri Devi by someone called Kerry Bolton. This article lends no support to your assertion. 
*Lanz von LiebenfelsThis article contains no assertions about Hitler being worshipped as a deity, not even by Lanz von Liebenfels, let alone anyone else. This article lends no support to your assertion
*Karl Maria WiligutThis article makes no reference to Hitler, worshipping or deities. It lends no support to your assertion.
*Nicholas Goodrick-ClarkeThis article makes one fleeting reference to a book called Hitler’s priestess, but says nothing about it. Is it about Savitri Devi??? No references to worshipping or deity (except to the book if you claim that is such a reference). Again, there is nothing in this article to support your assertion.
*Julius EvolaNo mention of Hitler, let alone worshipping him as a deity. Again, this article does not support your assertion.
*CosmotheismThe only reference to Hitler is in the phrase: Pierce's plan for white divinity was similar to Adolf Hitler's vision for the Herrenvolk. No mention of worshipping Hitler as a deity here either. Again, this article does not support your assertion
*Kalki#NazismNo reference to Hitler, let alone worshipping him as a deity. This article does not support your assertion.
*Savitri DeviThe closest you’ve come up with so far for any justification is the reference in this article to her proclaiming him an avatar of the Hindu god Vishnu. Not sure whether it is entirely fair to call this worshipping Hitler as a deity, but if I do count her in your support comment, you’ll have so far shown 1 person worshipping Hitler as a deity.
*Miguel SerranoNo reference in this article to worshipping Hitler as a deity. This article does not support your assertion. I have not read his books, but judging by their titles, for now, I’ll put him in your support comment: total 2.
*Sam, did you write that  unrelated remark about Nazi Mysticism in Kalki??  I think you are a nice guy but you have strange ideas on Nazi Mysticism and the connection between Hitler and Kalki. And by the way, I support Jongarrettuk's revert. I think it was extremely rare that Hitler was worshipped as a deity, only Savitri Devi is a documented case. I personally have strong doubt that there ever was something as Nazi Mysticism. May be pseudo religion, and Himmler believed in the occult and had a mysticism hobby, but he was only one person. There were far more practicing Christians in the Nazi party than mystics but was not a Christian party. Andries 00:38, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: *Nazi mysticism I am not disputing that this should be an article. And this article is correctly linked into Nazism. The article contains nothing to suggest it is anything but a sub subtopic for Hitler at the very most. This article is a summary article outlining the main features about Hitler, the man. You have not shown your point is notable enough to appear in this particular article.
*Wewelsburg This article is about a castle. There is nothing in it to support the assertion that enough people deify Hitler for that point to be made in this article. In fact, there is nothing about deification in this article at all.
*The Nexus (journal)This article is about a magazine. The only possible reference to Hitler being a deity in this article is a reference to a website called Priestess of Hitler:Savitri Devi by someone called Kerry Bolton. This article lends no support to your assertion. 
*Lanz von LiebenfelsThis article contains no assertions about Hitler being worshipped as a deity, not even by Lanz von Liebenfels, let alone anyone else. This article lends no support to your assertion
*Karl Maria WiligutThis article makes no reference to Hitler, worshipping or deities. It lends no support to your assertion.
*Nicholas Goodrick-ClarkeThis article makes one fleeting reference to a book called Hitler’s priestess, but says nothing about it. Is it about Savitri Devi??? No references to worshipping or deity (except to the book if you claim that is such a reference). Again, there is nothing in this article to support your assertion.
*Julius EvolaNo mention of Hitler, let alone worshipping him as a deity. Again, this article does not support your assertion.
*CosmotheismThe only reference to Hitler is in the phrase: Pierce's plan for white divinity was similar to Adolf Hitler's vision for the Herrenvolk. No mention of worshipping Hitler as a deity here either. Again, this article does not support your assertion
*Kalki#NazismNo reference to Hitler, let alone worshipping him as a deity. This article does not support your assertion.
*Savitri DeviThe closest you’ve come up with so far for any justification is the reference in this article to her proclaiming him an avatar of the Hindu god Vishnu. Not sure whether it is entirely fair to call this worshipping Hitler as a deity, but if I do count her in your support comment, you’ll have so far shown 1 person worshipping Hitler as a deity.
*Miguel SerranoNo reference in this article to worshipping Hitler as a deity. This article does not support your assertion. I have not read his books, but judging by their titles, for now, I’ll put him in your support comment: total 2.
*Sam, did you write that  unrelated remark about Nazi Mysticism in Kalki??  I think you are a nice guy but you have strange ideas on Nazi Mysticism and the connection between Hitler and Kalki. And by the way, I support Jongarrettuk's revert. I think it was extremely rare that Hitler was worshipped as a deity, only Savitri Devi is a documented case. I personally have strong doubt that there ever was something as Nazi Mysticism. May be pseudo religion, and Himmler believed in the occult and had a mysticism hobby, but he was only one person. There were far more practicing Christians in the Nazi party than mystics but was not a Christian party. Andries 00:38, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikilinks

message: I had always thought Hitler was Catholic by background.  CJCurrie 03:32, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Protestant Christianity?

message: "intimidated" in describing the actions of the Centre Party,Germany is  disputed and the dispute broadens to the error in claiming  on its' page that the  Catholic Centre Party (Zentrumspartei) was " dissolved by Hitler ". See  also Pope Pius XII .Flamekeeper 09:22, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Dispute zentrum

message: I came across in some writings Hitler referring to the November Republic. Now I assume (and am pretty confident) that this is the same as the Weimar Republic, but I wanted to have this confirmed before I went ahead and made a redirect. I assume someone here can back me up (or correct me if I'm mistaken). I was going to write this at the Weimar talk page, but this one has tons more traffic. -R. fiend 20:58, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: correct. This was Hitler's derogatory term for the republic that was founded after the defeat in November that he attributed to traitors, communists and Jews. Andries 21:03, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Made it a redirect. -R. fiend 21:13, 27 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: November Republic

message: I saw this on Unsolved Histories on Discovery Channel, it's title is Hitler in the Andes.
They said that the FBI had an eleven year investigation of wheter or not he died. Seeing that much of the information available that time were propaganda, wheter it was from the Allies, the Nazis, the Russian, and several other parties, do anyone here has any info or fact about this investigation?
Oh yeah, if Hitler's body was cremated, how can there be a Soviet autopsy that revealed that he has only one testicle? Just curious.
--Vandal Unknown 19:58, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe you'd like to read the article on Hitler's death jguk 20:30, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: Ah, thank you, though I didn't find the link in the "Related Topics" list. Sorry for wasting your time. --202.162.199.252 14:45, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hitler's Death and Controversies Surrounding It 

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thread_title:  Suggest 58 possible wiki links and 24 possible backlinks for [[Adolf Hitler]]. 

message: Please keep in mind the neutrality policy. Hitler is widely regarded as having been among the worlds most successful oraters. The purpose of this article is to inform, not to convince people Hitler was bad. If they don't think he's bad already, reading a biased article won't convince them any. Sam Spade Wants you to vote! 16:39, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: We largely agree. In refering to his "profound personal presence", I ment his speech giving abilities. In that area, he is unmatched, regardless of his theoretical eloquence (I have heard both Hitler and Churchill give plenty of speeches, and Churchill has nothing on Hitler, regardless of vocabulary ;) Lets try finding a woring we can all agree to. Cheers, Sam Spade Wants you to vote! 17:57, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I have used the words "highly animated and charismatic". I could use language like "captivating" or "stirring", but for the reasons I have mentioned, I might shy away from a term like eloquence. I should say that I actually quite like the turn of phrase "possessed of a profound personal presence" and I understand that it applies to Hitler as a public figure and speaker. Maybe it could come later in relation to his speeches during his rise to power.  By the way Churchill won the Nobel prize for literature and, while this was mostly for his history of WW2, it was also for a lifetime of literary achievement, including his oratory. --Wtmgeo 18:52, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Its funny this would come up, because I have an enormous amount of WWII related speeches on MP3. I'm sure many have outdone me, but I've heard speeches (especially the more famous ones) by Churchill, FDR and Hitler an amazing amount of times (I play all my MP3's on shuffle). Anyhow, their talents are best interpreted by the effects they had on their intended audience, their respective publics, rather than their effects on us, or other critics. Cheers, Sam Spade Wants you to vote! 21:51, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: This article has a section "Medical health .... Hitler's medical health has long been the subject of debate, and he has variously been suggested to suffer ... and a missing left testicle.". Is this last item from valid medical evidence or other genuine reports? Or does it only refer to the common vulgar song "Hitler's only got one ball ..."? I see no purpose in merely commemorating an obscene traditional popular song here. (Even if the report is valid, it may refer to cryptorchidism rather than to complete absence.) Anthony Appleyard 08:11, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: My German friend insists he fled to Austria, where he died peacefully of old age. The testicle bit was claimed even before his death, and was allegedly "proven" by that dubious russian autopsy you refered to. It should stay, but we shouldn't give it much respect either. I recommend you guys come help out over on Hitler's Death. Cheers, Sam Spade Wants you to vote! 10:26, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: If there's no evidence, there's no fact.  If no one has a reliable source that can be verified (i.e. official documentation of some sort), then the one-ball thing is nothing but rumor.  Looking at the entry on Catherine The Great, I don't see any mention of her rumored sexual prediliction for horses - and for good reason; unverifiable rumors are out of place in an objective evaluation - so there wouldn't seem to be any point in leaving in rumors about any other famous / infamous person either, except in intentional violation of neutral POV to discredit the subject.  It should just be stricken, as should the other rumors, until such time as someone can supply official sources of some sort for them. (unsigned) 63.80.207.34 14:31, 8 Feb 2005 
Not only things that have been proven should be recorded in an encyclopedia article.  If a legend is associated with a historical character, and that legend is significant (as is the case with Hitler's rumored monorchidism) then the fact of the legend should be recorded. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 16:51, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hitler's testicles 

message: There was until very recently a notice at the top of this article:
"Hitler" redirects to this page.  For other people named Hitler, see Hitler (disambiguation).
In my view it was a useful link.  Everyking and I cannot agree on whether it is "clutter."  Everyking has placed  it under "Hitler's family" which makes sense. On balance I think I still prefer to have it at the top.  Any other people with preferences? --Tony Sidaway|Talk 07:18, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: it should be on top of this page, these people are not all Hitlers family. Sam Spade Wants you to vote! 10:22, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguation notice

message: * first: is there doubt about his suicide in the bunker?
* is it true that he was on cocaine? perhaps a rumor page /section would be nice
See:
*Adolf Hitler's medical health
*Hitler's death
The short answers are: yes, there is loads of doubt from everybody who has looked into his death with any kind of interest, and it was meth he was on, not coke. He didn't know that was what it was tho, his doctor told him it was the super-soldier serum, or vitimins, or some such. Sam Spade wishes you a merry Christmas! 22:00, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  question 

message: The article says Poetsch gave anti-Semetic lectures and yet "was not anti-semitic at all." Is this actually true? It sounds a lot like a contradiction borne of editor differences. Deco 11:55, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poetsch