Talk:History of rail transport in Great Britain

message: British Railways was divided up into four administrative regions, which exactly mirrored the regions covered by the former "big four" companies.
Erm, what about the Scottish Region, then? Arwel 21:42, 3 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: No large railway can operate at a profit unless more than half its traffic is freight, and the freight was being siphoned off by the road companies.
: With the development of technology, I would assume the constraints on train operators are not the same as they were in the 19th and 20th centuries. In particular, does this still apply? Anyone know why? Mr. Jones 14:37, 18 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requirements for profitability 

message: A timeline of rail transport series of documents has been created, currently with little content. Please help out (not least since all but 3 "events" are US based). You know the drill: births & deaths, dates of key bits of infrastructure & acts / openings / amalgamations / closures / accidents &c. --Tagishsimon (talk)
:The root category is now . Slambo (Speak) 18:39, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[:Category:Timeline of rail transport]]

message: I notice what I perceive to be a combination of inconsistency and omission: the London and North Western Railway article describes the LNWR's formation in 1846, but makes no mention of its subsequent expansion, for example by leasing the Lancaster and Carlisle Railway in 1859 and taking it over in 1879.
The History of rail transport in Great Britain article implies that LNWR served Scotland from 1846 through "an amalgamation of companies working from Euston to Scotland". The LNW Railway Society website, however, talks about serving Scotland through cooperation with the Calledonian Railway.
I am no expert, and don't currently have time to research this, but it would appear that at least one, and possibly both, of the LNWR and History of rail transport in Great Britain articles may be misleading. StephenDawson 16:34, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: LNWR

message: I started on a paragraph entitled "Following the Grouping ..." and have included that already. I admit to jumping the gun a bit, since I wrote the para in isolation from the following one - "The Grouping Period" - which at the moment repeats some of what I have said. On the other hand much of it should be put before talking about the end result, which I shall now do with the first paragraph. (We have to work chronologically in an history article, after all)
I now see that the article is considered as being too long (<32kilobytes). It may be that, by bringing in all the other railways, I am the guilty party! I am now sitting back and considering options:
* should we hive off some sections to new articles? I have in mind the longish piece about the results/effects of the 1921 grouping - there is an article which could take that, and the comments are perhaps somewhat contentious (eg the railways did carry out quite a bit of rebuilding before WWII)
* certainly a great deal of the later paras are somewhat POV and put the rail v road argument in a somewhat black-and-white picture - in particular the para "Railways in the post-war world". This isn't history so much as media speak!! 
I shall return! Peter Shearan 10:55, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't be too concerned by the size of the article - the technical limit only affects some now-obsolete versions of browsers, few of which are still in use. Excellent rewrite, by the way! -- Arwel  12:36, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Continuation of rewrite

message: I have added some references to this, It would be nice if more could be added. Especially for the earlier history. G-Man * 23:16, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: How you want to incorporate this info is up to you in the bigger scheme of the rewrite / expansion of each section. I've been looking into electrification  at 1500v DC in East Anglia / Essex which all over wikipedia article seam to have missed out. 
Obviously this article need to cover the other systems in GB such as; Southern Electrics, LBSCR overhead, Tyneside electrics, Mersyside electrics, the Liverpool OHR, and the various schemes around Manchester (including the woodhead tunnel). Then detailing the adoption of 25Kv AC for the WCML, Glasgow suburban and the East Anglian suburban routes under the 1954 modernisation plan.Pickle 16:50, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Electrification

message: Without wishing to revive the lack of southern GB info debate, there is a lack of mention of the work by Network South East in the 1980s. They introduced new stock (Networkers) and did lots of work (eg Thameslink), revival of the Chiltern railways area, etc. Pickle 16:53, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're welcome to add it if you like. G-Man * 23:07, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ok I've had a stab at it, and updated the the WCML upgrade section aswell Pickle 20:54, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 1980s

message: "As early as 1844 a bill had been put before Parliament suggesting the state purchase of the railways; this was not adopted. It did, however, lead to the introduction of minimum standards for the construction of carriages[7] and the compulsory provision of 3rd class accommodation for passengers - so-called "Parliamentary trains"."
This isn't quite correct. The 1844 Act permitted the government to buy up the railways at a fair price; Gladstone considering doing it during Palmerston's government. Mackensen (talk) 01:33, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential nationalisation 

message: While not wishing to cloud the general focus of this article, there have been a significant number of local tram lines, which can be comfortably described as "rail transport in Great Britain", but never belonged to the heavy duty "railway network". While there are articles on local efforts (such as Trams in London or other items in :Category:Tram transport in the United Kingdom ), there is no overall piece for light rail in the UK. Any ideas as to how best to link in a reference to this?  Ephebi (talk) 19:38, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Be Bold!! Olana North (talk) 07:27, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trams & light rail 

message: IkbenFrank has added content to this article, Impact of the privatisation of British Rail and Privatisation of British Rail about the troubles that Southern has been having with reliability, industrial disputes and share prices. While this certainly seems notable enough for the Southern article, I really do not see how the content is notable enough for articles about the wider railway network, which do not refer to any other train operators in such a way. While I do always try and assume good faith, the section header that IkbenFrank added to Impact of the privatisation of British Rail: "Rewarding failure" does not seem to fit this. I have removed the content from this article and will remove it from the other articles tomorrow unless there is a consensus otherwise. Absolutelypuremilk (talk) 22:39, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions of content about Southern's troubles 

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