Talk:Four Commanderies of Han

message: one ref map from textbook. Evawen (talk) 20:21, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
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message: No comment from myself on the merits of the image but please quit the slow edit war; if it continues I will protect the article till you take time to figure it out. Consider discussing the various merits here please --Errant (chat!) 16:26, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
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message: It is really interesting to examine this blue map supposed to illustrate the "Four Commanderies of Han".
First and foremost, the four Commanderies have to be FOUR, not three. The red topmost/leftmost thing, 汉四郡, is not a Commandery, but a legend, stating the topic of the map. Therefore, two Commanderies are missing. Namely:
* 臨屯郡, 임둔군, Lintun=Imdun
* 真番郡, 진번군, Zhenfan=Jinbeon
One cannot argue that these commanderies have disappeared in the +0003 year after the erroneous date chosen by Bede the Venerable, since the 
* 帶方郡, 대방군, Daifang=Daebang Commandery 
only appeared 200 years later.
Moreover, the reason why the
* 玄菟郡, 현도군, Xuantu=Hyeondo
Commandery has been renamed into 遼東郡, i.e. Liaodong Commandery is not clear either.
Finally, what are these a), b), c), d) tags ?    
Pldx1 (talk) 11:36, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
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:"Lelang Commandery was crucial to understanding the early history of Korea, which lasted from 108 BCE to 313 CE around the P'yongyang area. However, because of its nature as a Han colony and the exceptional attention paid to it by Japanese colonial scholars for making claims of the innate heteronomy of Koreans, post 1945 Korean scholars intentionally avoided the issue of Lelang."
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:"After a period of decline, Old Choson falls to Wiman, an exile from the Yan state in northern China. Wiman proves to be a strong ruler, but his ambitious program of expansion eventually brings him into conflict with the Han dynasty of China. The Han defeats Wiman Choson and establishes a protectorate over northern Korea in 108 b.c. Resistance to Chinese hegemony, however, is strong, and China reduces the territory under its active control to Nang-nang colony with an administrative center near modern Pyongyang."
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:"Chinese civilization had started to flow into the Korean Peninsula through Nang-nang. This was the only time in Korean history that China could establish its colonies in the central part of Korea, where occupation forces were stationed. The Han Empire not only occupied Korea, but expanded westward to Persia and Afghanistan."
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:"In the corridor between the peninsula and northeast China, the Chinese Han dynasty established four “commanderies” that ruled over parts of the peninsula and Manchuria, much as modern imperial powers governed their colonies."
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:"As its administrative center, the Chinese built what was inessence a Chinese city where the governor, officials, merchants, and Chinese colonists lived. Their way of life in general can be surmised from the investigation of remains unearthed at T'osong-ni, the site of the Lelang administrative center near modern P'yongyang. The variety of burial objects found in their wooden and brickwork tombs attests to the lavish life syle of these Chinese officials, merchants, and colonial overloads in Lelang's capital. ... The Chinese administration had considerable impact on the life of the native population and ultimatedly the very fabric of Gojoseon society became eroded."--133.137.58.139 (talk) 19:17, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  What scholars say about Four Commanderies of Han