Talk:Zamorin

message: Mangattu Achhan,Thinancherry Elaayath, Varakkal Para Nambi, Dharmothu Panicker.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Devaprathap (talk • contribs) 15:51, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Herditary Ministers of Samoothiripaddu 

message: After referring to a few books,, Maanichan and Vikkiran were originally called manikram and Vikkraam were youths who were descendents of Chalukyas who accidently came over to Malabar. Seeing the situation there, They made freinds with everyone quickly and gained acceptance and the rest of the history is more or less known I guess. So I assume Samoothisis are kshatriyas.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.99.41.226 (talk) 12:34, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zamorin or Samoothiripaddu? 

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was: page moved. Vegaswikian (talk) 20:30, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
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In recent days i read an article on a daily that a maharaja has sold 11 elephants nettipattam to construct a railway line . Who was it? i really forgot it .can anybody help me  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.206.16.113 (talk) 11:05, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

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In recent days i read an article on a daily that a maharaja has sold 11 elephants nettipattam to construct a railway line . Who was it? i really forgot it .can anybody help me  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.206.16.113 (talk) 11:05, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey and discussion

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thread_title: File:Vasco da Gama entrega a carta do rei Dom Manuel I de Portugal ao Samorim de Calicute.jpg Nominated for Deletion

message: The article was moved from "Zamorin" to "Zamorin of Calicut" with an edit summary of "Readers can understand better from this title, Zamorins were in fact famous as the Kings of Calicut". Does this take us away from using the most common name, for no other purpose than emphasising something that an editor feels needs emphasis? --McGeddon (talk) 10:18, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
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thread_title: File:Manavikrama.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion

message: Is this article about the dynasty, the title or the kings or the state?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.161.185.55 (talk) 05:58, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that is a good idea. But, you have to discuss it with all main contributors 
(Ἀλέξανδρος ὁ Μέγας (talk) 07:48, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What? 

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File:A rendering of the scene by the Portuguese painter Velos Salgado.jpg
File:Portuguese fort at Calicut.jpg
File:Vasco da Gama dá a sua embaixada ao Samorim em Calicute.jpg
File:Zamorin&gama.jpg
File:Calicut coast.jpg
File:The Savages of Calicut.gif
File:Thali Temple, Malabar District.jpg
File:Marakkar-Navy.JPG
File:Duarte Pacheco's victory at Battle of Cochin (1504).jpg
(Ἀλέξανδρος ὁ Μέγας (talk) 07:48, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Image links

message: In the entry around August 1502, the text says "However, the burning and sinking of the ship is not related by any contemporary and reliable sources. Some assume that the description may be "legendary or at least exaggerated" and gives a reference to Britannica.   I have been unable to check Britannica (doesn't show up on my browser).  But this is certainly a false statement.  As seen in the record of the 4th armada of 1502, the burning & sinking of the ship is related in all contemporary Portuguese chronicles (Barros, Gois, Castanheda, Osorio, Correia); it is also reported in at least four separate eyewitness accounts. By historical standards, the evidence is overwhelming.  This needs to be corrected. Walrasiad (talk) 04:06, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sinking of pilgrim ship 

message: checked the source JOAN P. MENCHER , The Nayars of South  Malabr , page 167 , -  A group of castes known as Ambalavasis (temple servants) and Samantans (ruling chiefs) were placed above the majority of Nayars
Most Samantans subcastes intermarry among one another, though the men might also marry
Nayar women and the women might take Brahmin husband
In Ernad taluq, specifically in Angadi, the matrilineal caste groups include several Ambilavasi subcastes, Samantans, Nayars
and Chalians
"The Zamorin of Calicut was of a Samantan subcaste known as Eradi, or originally the ruler of Ernad. Most Samantans subcastes intermarry among one another, though the men might also marry Nayar women and the women might take Brahmin husbands. The Nayars, who come next in this hierarchy, were themselves divided into numerous subcastes, all hierarchically placed though the subdivisions vary from region to region. They may be classified into three major categories: the high-caste Nayars who either belonged to the military or served in some other capacity for Namboodiri Brahmins, Kshatriyas or Samantans; the intermediate group of Nayars, a small number who do not intermarry or interdine with the higher caste group and who perform various tasks for temples, that is, copper working, or making earthern ware; and finally, also few numerically, a group of low-caste Nayars who serve other Nayars as washermen, barbers and oilmongers.8For the most part, this chapter will deal with the higher caste Nayars, as they form the major portion of the Nayar population in any village."
Robin Jeffrey, an anthropologist, described the Samantans as, "A matrilineal caste ranking between Nayars and Kshatriyas."
Usage Samanthan Nair is oxymoron 68.33.4.126 (talk) 04:58, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Samanthan - placed above the majority of Nayars 

message: In the lead :
The Samoothiris belonged to the Eradi subcaste of the Samantan Nair community of colonial Kerala, and were originally the ruling chiefs of Eranad
Given the link to the page Samantan in the name of Samantan Nair , which Sitush has already renamed the name of original article from Samantan Nair to Samantan citing original name in sources..
So it should be :
The Samoothiris belonged to the Eradi subcaste of the Samantan community of colonial Kerala, and were originally the ruling chiefs of Eranad 207.96.13.213 (talk) 14:13, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: SSSB (talk) 16:12, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 January 2024 

message: Under the etymology section, in the first paragraph, there is line "In fact, the term derives from Sanskrit svami and sri (which in combined form becomes tiri). Isn't the "tiri" word suppose to be "sāmūtiri"? Satyamsha (talk) 08:28, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request