Talk:Ohel (Chabad-Lubavitch)

message: I deleted this section because it is a general description of Kohanim at gravesites and better belongs on the Kohen page. If you have something sourced specifically to the Chabad Ohel, please add it with a cite. Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:22, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Yoninah, The deleted content relates to the Chabad Ohel as kohen visitors are likely to use the "kohen box" (not being aware of the 4 tefachim requirement even with the kohen box) at the ohel, (ive added in as you've requested, a pic of the kohen boxes and "kever clutter" near the entrance to the tziyon (btw, this is more clutter than any other tziyon that kohanim visit) is forthcoming..), thanks.--108.21.119.56 (talk) 13:21, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, the material you're adding is quite generalized and is appropriate for any page about a gravesite or ohel. Do you have a reference that talks about the challenges of Kohen visitors at the Chabad Ohel specifically? Yoninah (talk) 18:57, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding your idea of starting a page on the "kohen box", I have never heard of such a term and cannot find anything resembling it on Google Search or Google Books. Perhaps you could write up the information you have, with reliable sources, on the Kohen or Tumah and taharah pages. Best, Yoninah (talk) 19:01, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The kohen box may be an invention invented at the rebbe's ohel..i mean, im not sure but it may be?--96.57.76.230 (talk) 23:00, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: In the absence of any references to the "kohen box" and the Chabad Ohel, and the generality of the information included here, I'm going ahead and deleting the section again. Yoninah (talk) 09:19, 27 March 2012 (UTC)

text: too, the article cites an approximate figure, and doesn't relate that the figure decreases when there is a partition of ten tefachs high, should we change this?--FrenkelP42 (talk) 04:15, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The numbers wont allow passage..   — Preceding unsigned comment added by FrenkelP42 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The "Kohanim" section that you added to the article is completely unreferenced. Could you provide sources to back up these statements? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:08, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Kohen visitors

message: At least from going out of the ohel house (where information desk is located), it really does look to be too narrow to fit those measurements of 53+ in (i.e. enough space on both sides of the adult kohen attempting passage).
  --FrenkelP42 (talk) 04:03, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: too, the article cites an approximate figure, and doesn't relate that the figure decreases when there is a partition of ten tefachs high, should we change this?--FrenkelP42 (talk) 04:15, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The numbers wont allow passage..   — Preceding unsigned comment added by FrenkelP42 (talk • contribs) 21:12, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The "Kohanim" section that you added to the article is completely unreferenced. Could you provide sources to back up these statements? Thanks, Yoninah (talk) 22:08, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  measurement 

message: I don't understand why DreamOutLoud moved this page to Ohel (Chabad-Lubavitch). The new name doesn't appear in any published source. I request consensus to move it back to the original name. Yoninah (talk) 22:20, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: On the other hand, the http://www.ohelchabad.org/ website uses the name "Ohel Chabad Lubavitch" (but without the dash). Debresser (talk) 22:43, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: So why aren't we renaming Chabad as Chabad Lubavitch? Yoninah (talk) 22:44, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is all very simple. The official name of the Ohel, as it appears from the website, is "Ohel Chabad-Lubavitch".  Period. Why Chabad is Chabad and not Chabad-Lubavitch or just Lubavitch, those are unrelated questions. Debresser (talk) 00:31, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

text: Hello DESiegel. Yes, I was aware ofthat. The reason I didn't mention it is that the common name is just "the Ohel", without anything more, so that is not the issue here. Debresser (talk) 07:26, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on WP:COMMON NAME, and the fact that we have chosen to name the Chabad page that way and not Chabad Lubavitch, it looks like this page should be named Ohel (Chabad). Yoninah (talk) 13:16, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Your logic is flawed, and that is what I tried to explain above. Yes, "Chabad" is the common name for the Hasidic movement, rather than "Chabad Lubavitch". But that is not necessarily true for other objects that contain the name "Chabad Lubavitch". For them, the common name may still be the full version. Debresser (talk) 15:02, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

text: I saw the post at the help desk. "Ohel" by itself is out due to the dab page, so we need more for the title. When you look at the sources having Ohel and Chabad, most of them use Ohel Chabad-Lubavitch. However, that seems to be in the context of "Ohel Chabad-Lubavitch, a ramshackle building next to the burial site" and "the Ohel Chabad Lubavitch Center" which do not seem to be about the religious shrine itself. One reference refers to "the Ohel-Chabad, the Queens resting place of the sixth and seventh Lubavitcher rebbes." Per Parenthetical disambiguation, I think Ohel (shrine) or Ohel (religious shrine) or  Ohel (Queens, New York) would be more appropriate. -- Jreferee (talk) 05:44, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
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