Talk:Bō

message: As the article also states, the traditional length of a bō is 6 shaku, while a jō is typically 4 shaku. Giving measurements to the millimeter (1.818m/1.212m) in the lede/image seems pointless from a historical perspective. The article makes no clarification that these standards were ever sufficiently rigorous to warrant millimeter-precision conversions. MOS:CONVERSIONS --Vilding1 (talk) 19:08, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Undue Precision

message: When I tested for my black belt in kobudo (martial arts weaponry), I was required to write a research paper on a topic of my choice. I chose to do extensive research and write about the rokushakubo, or bo staff. When I went to look at this Wikipedia article, I saw that there was very little information about the bo, and that the article had no references whatsoever. I want to contribute some of the research that I found while providing many of the resources I had so that people have a more complete understanding of the bo staff, including bo staff technique and the bo's origins. More information such as internal linking to other Wikipedia articles could be added in the future.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Alissab09 (talk • contribs) 04:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Added History

message: I have moved the trivial list of fictional bo references here per WP:TRIV. The mere fact that "random character from obscure anime uses a bo" is arguably not interesting, and definitely not notable. Unless these references actually enhance the readers understanding of the history or function of the bo itself, they belong in the article for the referenced piece of fiction or trivia, not here. Bradford44 15:12, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia (pop culture)

message: There may be numerous names for a long stick but regardless, it's still a long stick. So, I suggest all the staff articles be merged into one article. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B%C5%8D 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_%28staff%29 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C5%8D 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Staff_%28stick%29 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quarterstaff
MastaFighta (talk) 03:59, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose They have distinctly different fighting styles, histories and etymologies associated with them. Merging all of the pertinent information would create an unwieldy article, that either went into unnecessary detail about differences between the two or completely lacked any real detail. Additionally, there are many more articles that would be merged under your proposal. See Stick fighting#See also. There is no way to merge that content into a single article and not screw the entire thing up. EvilCouch (talk) 05:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Oppose Why? Bad, bad idea. They are different weapons with different styles of fighting , a group article call Staff weapons (if it isnt' already a Stargate one) could be usefull to summarise the types and link but a merge wouldn't work. For example the Gun and Bo are different in that the gun was commonly more flexible and made of wax wood, where as the bo is oak and rigid. --Nate1481(t/c) 12:44, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Support Why? Because "bō" just means "stick," dudes. As proof: The Japanese article linked to here has absolutely nothing to do with the topic. There is no Japanese article for "bō", because a "bō" is just a stick. It's not the name of a particular kind of Japanese weapon. "Bōjutsu", on the other hand, is a method of fighting with a stick or staff--of any kind. This article seems to have been created and sustained by people who are into the whole "mystical Oriental martial arts" thing, but don't actually know anything about Japan or Japanese. Since the Japanese article linked to is about an obscure genre of Japanese storytelling, and has nothing to do with the martial arts whatsoever, I am removing the link. This is an article about an imaginary weapon. It should not exist. The article on bōjutsu should suffice. Matt Thorn (talk) 06:48, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: comment Actually a jo is a shorter stick... this is like saying merge all the car articles because they are all just vehicles, plain daft. Yes they are all related & should be cross linked accordingly. It would take no account of the differences in use or specifics such as the materials, flexibility or shape of the different staffs (. A parent 'Staff weapons' article (not Stargate) that contrasts them could be of benefit but merging them will necessitate information loss to make a sensible sized article. --Natet/c 07:59, 28 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Home Depot 73.223.76.117 (talk) 07:56, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge All Staff Articles? 

message: Ive seen people use pvc to make bo staffs; if i could get a source for it could it be a feasible idea?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.70.14.63 (talk) 13:53, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Home Depot 73.223.76.117 (talk) 07:56, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: pvc

message: *1 http://books.google.com/books?id=fc8DAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA22&dq=tenbin&hl=en&ei=044VTeDOF8H7lweXgYXkCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDIQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=tenbin&f=false
*2 http://books.google.com/books?id=Hz1kLZYjwE0C&pg=PA10&dq=bo+staff&hl=en&ei=sHgVTYXdA4P6lwfClIC4CA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CEoQ6AEwBjgU#v=onepage&q=bo%20staff&f=true
*3 http://books.google.com/books?id=WyXNvczTJS8C&pg=PA512&dq=tenbin&hl=en&ei=044VTeDOF8H7lweXgYXkCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CDkQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=tenbin&f=true
*4 http://books.google.com/books?id=7dkDAAAAMBAJ&pg=PA96&dq=tenbin&hl=en&ei=O5EVTbyAA4KglAePzuyDDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CDwQ6AEwBjge#v=onepage&q=tenbin&f=true
*5 http://books.google.com/books?id=BlT-x4vqaC4C&pg=PA35&dq=tenbin&hl=en&ei=l5EVTez4AYWdlgentbXsAg&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CDcQ6AEwBDgy#v=onepage&q=tenbin&f=true
*6 http://books.google.com/books?id=8J04mLdt9P8C&pg=PA7&dq=tenbin&hl=en&ei=BJIVTdDFL4S8lQe6mJHcCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=6&ved=0CDoQ6AEwBTg8#v=onepage&q=tenbin&f=true
*7 http://books.google.com/books?id=seyoH2TJiYgC&printsec=frontcover&dq=hanbo&hl=en&src=bmrr&ei=qJIVTbGXJ4OClAfPiZm7DA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=book-preview-link&resnum=1&ved=0CC4QuwUwAA#v=onepage&q&f=true
*8 http://books.google.com/books?id=g5BP7DGuNFsC&pg=PA92&dq=hanbo&hl=en&ei=qJIVTbGXJ4OClAfPiZm7DA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=4&ved=0CDkQ6AEwAw#v=onepage&q=hanbo&f=true
*9 http://books.google.com/books?id=ZzIXkFec0e8C&pg=PA91&dq=hanbo&hl=en&ei=qJIVTbGXJ4OClAfPiZm7DA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CD4Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=hanbo&f=true
*10 http://books.google.com/books?id=57sOo2TpPYUC&printsec=frontcover&dq=japanese+staff&hl=en&ei=_pMVTY2ZGMaAlAf-8-GYDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBg#v=onepage&q&f=true
*11 http://books.google.com/books?id=57sOo2TpPYUC&pg=PA21&dq=japanese+staff+bo&hl=en&ei=QJQVTYWCLcXflgeVrKi4DA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=japanese%20staff%20bo&f=true
*12 http://books.google.com/books?id=W0TfrLaw1VwC&pg=PA204&dq=japanese+staff+bo&hl=en&ei=QJQVTYWCLcXflgeVrKi4DA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=9&ved=0CFQQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=japanese%20staff%20bo&f=true
*13 http://books.google.com/books?id=_o73NOjb4p4C&pg=RA1-PA117&dq=japanese+staff+bo&hl=en&ei=E5UVTa6UHsSAlAfL9fDHBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CDAQ6AEwATgK#v=onepage&q=japanese%20staff%20bo&f=false
*14 http://books.google.com/books?id=GsSMsu21CQkC&pg=PA79&dq=japanese+staff+bo&hl=en&ei=E5UVTa6UHsSAlAfL9fDHBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=8&ved=0CE8Q6AEwBzgK#v=onepage&q=japanese%20staff%20bo&f=true
*15 http://books.google.com/books?id=-iWE8T2t4E0C&pg=PA88&dq=japanese+staff+bo&hl=en&ei=tZUVTfPWLcX_lge4xtCqDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=5&ved=0CD8Q6AEwBDgU#v=onepage&q=japanese%20staff%20bo&f=true
*16 http://books.google.com/books?id=-vDSshI9QkwC&pg=PA50&dq=japanese+staff+bo&hl=en&ei=UpYVTa_EBsL7lwfp7M3nCw&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=7&ved=0CEQQ6AEwBjge#v=onepage&q=japanese%20staff%20bo&f=true 
*17 http://books.google.com/books?id=UKx9z4upIUQC&pg=PA14&dq=rattan+bo&hl=en&ei=RooXTavDLcWblge5gtTZDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1&ved=0CCkQ6AEwADgU#v=onepage&q=rattan%20bo&f=true
*18 http://books.google.com/books?id=1NiiC4CVw2gC&pg=PA26&dq=iron+B%C5%8D+staff&hl=en&ei=BZQXTYP1NcOAlAeU9PzhDA&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q&f=false
 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samuraiantiqueworld (talk • contribs) 07:35, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: References for editors to read

message: This article's history section seems to be inconsistent with the history section on Okinawan kobudō#History, regarding whether or not the use of the weapon arose due to weapons restrictions placed on peasants by the samurai. Both assertions are unfortunately unsourced.
208.190.202.32 (talk) 11:56, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistent histories 

message: This image is used twice: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Japanese_bo.JPG 
Is used on this page to describe a Bo staff, and is also used on the Jo staff page (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jo_(weapon)). It's actually a cropped version of the image used here but is clearly taken from the same image.
27.33.230.172 (talk) 18:42, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Same picture used for Bo and Jo staves 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This sentence sounded ambiguous to me:
"The bō is usually made with hard wood or a flexible wood, such as red or white oak, although bamboo and pine wood have been used, more common still is rattan wood for its flexibility."
What are we actually saying is the most common staff wood here? Rattan?  Or oak? If it's oak then I think we should use a full stop or a semicolon after "oak" instead of a comma.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 51.7.50.146 (talk) 15:19, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ambiguous wording about commonness of the staff woods 

message: I am one who thinks an article can have a decent pop-cult/in fiction or whatever section. But.
First, completely unsourced. Now, if there are reliable sources on the topic of bo that bothers to mention something about pop-cult/fiction, those could be used for an ok-ish section. Need not be a list, could be something like "...is often seen in martial art and action films and comics, such as x, y and z." The End.
Second, IMO the topic makes a pop-cult section a bad match, it's to basic/big. It's like having a pop-cult section in katana, gladius or Volvo, there's too much for editors to pick their favorites from. Again, a good book about Bo that mentions pop-cult could be used, but are there any? Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:33, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  I just removed pop culture section