Talk:Construction management

message: This entry refers to the advocacy body of the construction management industry: the Construction Management Association of America (CMAA).  I decided to create a page for this professional association because of its notable contributions to the CM industry.  I am relatively new to Wikipedia- if people could offer suggestions on how I could improve the entry, or would like to contribute to the page, it would be greatly appreciated! 
I also have tried to contribute researched and referenced edits to this page, and they have been deleted by pm master each time with no explanation of how I could improve my contributions.  Some of my edits, such as the External Links and added definition of construction management, I believe greatly enhance the page and are from notable industry resources. 
Ashleypeck3 (talk) 14:35, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Requesting help for other page

message: From CM At-Risk:
"Upon some aspect of desired design raising the cost estimate over the budget the Owner wants to maintain, a decision can be made to modify the design concept instead of having to spend a considerable amount of time, effort and money re-designing and/or modifying completed construction documents, OR, the Owner decides to spend more money or obtain higher financial support for the project." 74.92.147.125 (talk) 19:51, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Holy Nonsensical Run-on Sentence, Batman 

message: There's nothing especially "wrong" with the new language except for a sense that it doesn't really belong on this page. Design-Build is a project delivery method, and not really comparable to Agency CM or CM At Risk, as might be inferred from this revision.  We at CMAA think professional Construction Managers can play an important role in all types of project delivery methods including Design-Build. One of the major roles the CM plays in Design-Build is acting as the owner’s representative to supplement their existing staff. Owners who do not have qualified professionals on staff, will engage a CM to assist in guiding a Design-Build project through design and construction, acting as the owner’s representative.
Would it be reasonable to add some clarifying language along these lines to the article?   
John McKeon, VP/Communications, CMAA  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cmaamckeon (talk • contribs) 15:47, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  CMAA comments on Design-Build language 

message: I have observed the numerous issues with this page, and have come to the conclusion that re-writing the page/creating separate pages may be the best course of action. 
This article does not actually describe the discipline itself of Construction Management (i.e. a person who is a Construction Manager and what their role entails), instead describing the procurement method and the role of a Construction Project Manager (called in the industry a Project Manager). The discipline of Construction Management is actually quite complex, and is split into Project Management, Corporate Social Responsibility, Leadership, Supply Chain Management, Sustainable construction, academic discipline, and a knowledge of specialist services, among others.
I currently possess a number of documents/papers from well-renowned academics, and am proposing to write a far more balanced and well-referenced article summarising the discipline. 
In this case, can I have feedback on whether we should create separate pages for the discipline, procurement method (or ‘business model’) of CM, and yet another page on Construction Project Management, or if one article split into different sections would suffice? 
I know I should be bold, but it can’t hurt to ask! Thanks. Haruman215 (talk) 08:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page re-write 

message: The Construction Management programs that many universities around the country started offering back in the early 1970’s and later in other countries around the world began in schools of technology and were designed for people who were currently working or had an interest in the construction field and who wanted to move up into field supervision, project management or ownership of a construction company.  One of the primary purposes of Construction Management program development around the country was due to the attrition rate occurring in our construction industry of a skilled labor force and an applied science construction degree to promote the effective management of our future construction labor force.
Without this applied science construction degree program the schools of engineering and architecture could see, even back then that today we would have the saturation of professional disciplines that we now have and our industry would be top heavy with professional engineers and architects.  
Construction Management is a professional discipline and practice.  CMAA is not an advocacy group for the Professional Construction Manager.  Rather they are a trade association for professional engineers, engineering firms and contractors who promote construction management services secondary to their primary consulting or general contracting business model.  Through advocacy of the CCM certification program CMAA promotes any number of academic disciplines and even those without a bachelor’s degree to the status of professional Construction Manager.
Currently the academic professional discipline for a construction project manager is an open career path for anyone regardless of educational credential.  Construction Management as advocated by CMAA and CIOB is the same and is not recognized as an academic professional discipline.  Through their certification process anyone can acquire the status of Construction Manager.  Today in the ranks of the CCM you will find lawyers, accountants, real estate, Civil Engineers, Mechanical Eng, Liberal Arts, Philosophy, Psychology, Math, etc. 
 
It is obvious from the article as currently written on this page that the writer doesn’t know the difference between the professional Construction Manager and the artful practice of construction management from construction project management.  
To those of us who have earned our bachelors degree in Construction Management it is a profession first and secondly a delivery method--Jskeith (talk) 10:55, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi! Obviously you are promoting your website and your business. I know that you are new to Wikipedia so please don't. You can't just ask for an article to be deleted just because you don't like it. There are many people that contributed to this article and I think all of them do not agree with you. I have removed your promotional signature, please don't add it again and please don't use Wikipedia as a vehicle for promoting your business.Pm master (talk) 11:39, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Deletion/Complete Revision by a professional Construction Manager--[[User:Jskeith|Jskeith]] ([[User talk:Jskeith|talk]]) 10:55, 11 September 2014 (UTC) 

message: This page should not be speedy deleted because the person requesting deletion is asking for the page to be deleted just because his edits are being questioned. This is not the right way. The article was completely rewritten based on one person's sole view of construction management, which obviously is not aligned with all the other previous editors... --Pm master (talk) 11:28, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Additionally, obviously the guy is obviously promoting his business on Wikipedia. With a phone number, an email, and a website. Pm master (talk) 11:31, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contested deletion 

message: Most of the universities have a field named construction engineering and management, not Construction management or Construction engineering. These two (Construction management and Construction engineering) cannot be separate. I proposed to merge these articles and change the name of the destination article to construction engineering and management.
Thanks, Pirehelokan (talk) 19:24, 10 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: merge

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Oppose for the reason I give below in the #Discussion section. —Largo Plazo (talk) 14:48, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

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thread_title:  Blacklisted Links Found on [[Construction management]] 

message: Concise Definition:
Owners Advocate: In construction - a person with a comprehensive and broad knowledge of the building industry who functions as an independent consultant, and specifically in the interest of the owner of the project. 
Explanation:
An owner’s advocate is a person who has extensive experience in the construction industry. Generally this person has performed in or is familiar with all or most facets of the construction process. This includes design (both from aesthetic and structural aspects), costing, functionality, supervision, and mediation.
The advocate’s background might involve knowledge of but not necessarily a specialization in such fields as architecture, law, finance, real estate, construction trades, construction field supervision, construction planning and mediation as well as others.
The advocate is ideally not professionally affiliated with either the design or construction team but acts as an independent counsel to and advocate for the owner of the project.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Benro~enwiki (talk • contribs) 03:50, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Owner's Advocate Position in Construction Management. 

message: I had to recently write and do a large research project for my English College Course. I thought I would share a few of my findings and some of the sources I used for you too. 
Construction managers rarely does actual construction work, but instead they are the overall manager that is the glue to the project. They became a more known career in the 1960's when they executed projects such as the Madison Square Garden. I also found that an average in state tuition for the CM Bachelors Degree program is on average $25,000. The main points I included in my paper were the education, job outcome, stress and work load of the career, and the future for the CM's. In conclusion, now that we know more about our “built environment” and the men behind the buildings who got them there. We should appreciate the work, effort, and time put into every detail of them. Construction management is a necessary career that is essential to the industrial and residential needs through the process of planning, budgeting, supervising, and participating in all of the needed ways to provide an update to our world through modernized construction. It is definitely worth it for the job they do, and it can be seen through the buildings that surround our daily lives. So whether it be the relatively young, yet and upcoming career of a general contractor, project manager, or construction manager just remember everything their job entails and what all it provides for the world around us.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.163.154.162 (talk) 01:12, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Construction Management Addition