Talk:Mythomania

message: :It needs addition, but it seems to me that it also may be slightly incorrect. A mythomaniac may lie for his own benefit and still get the diagnosis.--Lindorm 18:50, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: early comments

message: Weasel words should be avoided. A copy of this article with weasel terms bolded is shown below.
A pathological liar is someone who often embellishes his or her stories in a way that he or she believes will impress people. Some think a pathological liar is different from a normal liar in that a pathological liar believes the lie he or she is telling to be true—at least in public—and is "playing" the role. It is not clear, however, that this is the case, and others hold that pathological liars know precisely what they are doing.  Making up stories and at the same time believing them is known as  confabulation.  The term "pathological liar" is not an official clinical diagnosis however most psychiatrists agree that pathological lying is often the result of a mental disorder or low self-esteem.
Which people specifically believe this? Invitatious 15:39, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weasel words 

message: I've redone the entire page.  All of the weasel words have been removed.  I may have mis-spelled some words.  Tiny.ian 00:13, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Totally redone

message: This article, which is constantly getting vandalized by people who want to take potshots at others whom they don't like, needs protection or at least semi-protection. Doczilla 05:47, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page Protection Needed

message: "Even though pathological lying is not recognized as a clinical disorder"
Actually pathological lying is recognised as a clinical disorder. It comes under the Chapter on Factitious Disorders in the DSM and includes 301.51, (with physical symptoms), 300.16 (with psychological symptoms), and 300.19 (NOS).
other helpful URL's for reference might be 
Wikipedia DSM codes Alphabetical
Wikipedia DSM codes
300.19  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.183.220.186 (talk) 22:36, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No no no. Factitious disorder includes a lot of lying but is not itself pathological lying. Analogy: A chimpanzee's body includes chimp ears, but a chimpanzee is not an ear. Doczilla (talk) 08:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

text: No. Pathological lying is not a kind of factitious disorder. It is one behavior among many shown as part of factitious disorder. It is a piece of factitious disorder, not a form of it. Doczilla (talk) 02:32, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

text: A dictionary definition of factitious is irrelevant because that's not the source we're talking about. You started this section with a claim about what was recognized as a clinical disorder, and you pulled out the DSM's factitious disorder. Without citing specifically where the DSM says pathological lying is a form of factitious disorder, this is a pointless discussion. The definition of factitious disorder specifically requires that they are faking illness. They're lying about illness. Lying in general is irrelevant if they are not persistently lying about being sick. The defining quality is obsessively wanting medical attention and faking illness and injury to get it. Factious disorder can include the symptom of pathological lying. That does not make pathological lying in and of itself a clinical disorder. Sneezing is a symptom of many diseases. That does not make sneezing in and of itself a disease. Doczilla (talk) 08:12, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Statement