Talk:Greeks in the United Kingdom

message: This is not a PR article. Some of the names appearing in the names list do not merit being there - even if though they are good people; for instance, Kristian Leontiou, Theo Paphitis, etc... One of you guys adding them in must be plucking out names from a list or a book and pasting them in. Please give some thought into what you are doing and let us be constructive or (very civilised) action will be taken to remedy the situation. Thanks. Politis 12:52, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: This is not a PR page

message: I propose removing the Cypriots from the list to a new article called '(Greek?) Cypriots in Great Britain'. Naturally, there are people whith both Greek and Cypriot parents; these can appear in both lists. I am not sure about those Cypriots who consider themselves to be only Greek. Politis 18:24, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Greece and Cyprus are different countries, of the same nation. Gts-tg (talk) 04:37, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing Cypriots from the list

message: I was wondering, since the definition of a "Greek Briton" is "people of Greek and Greek Cypriot ancestry who were born or were raised in the United Kingdom", why are we including folks like Stelios Giannakopoulos and Georgios Samaras when neither of them were born or raised in the UK? --Kimontalk 17:45, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Included people 

message: Shouldn't it be Ελληνο-Βρετανός or Έληνας Βρετανός? Actually, why even have a subtitle at all? Greek American, Greek Canadians, etc. don't. --Kimontalk 17:48, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ελληνικός Βρετανός 

message: The name of this article is meaningless and had no preponderance. The ususal term is British Greeks, Greeks in Britain. Politis 17:32, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed --Kimontalk 19:08, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Change of article name

message: The population figures given in this article are at least 30 years out of date. After the Turkish invasion of Cyprus there were 200,000 Greek Cypriots alone that lived in the UK. By 1980, 200,000 Greek Cypriots lived in north London and there were about 40,000 Greeks from Greece living in London alone. Whoever wrote this article has obviously taken the London figures for Greek Cypriots in the late 1970's and applied them to all Greeks. The realistic figure for Greeks (of all origins) living in the UK is more like 400,000, about 270,000 who live in the Greater London area and 130,000 in the rest of the UK including about 50,000 in Birmingham.
--82.152.253.59 (talk) 18:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Population Figures

message: 'Greek Briton' is a neologism rarely used outside Wikipedia. In addition, this page is short and mostly unsourced, and can easily be merged to the above page. Cop 663 (talk) 19:13, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a very good point, thanks. Cop 663 (talk) 18:48, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge to [[Western European migration to Britain]]

message: The statement "There are no official statistics on the number of Greeks and Greek Cypriots in Great Britain and there are no scientifically based estimates" is totally inaccurate. The 2001 UK Census provides official statistics and there is enough there to make some scientifically based estimates or at least set some lower and upper limits and substantiate the figures already given.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/05/born_abroad/countries/html/cyprus.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/spl/hi/uk/05/born_abroad/countries/html/greece.stm
This article also needs a rewrite more in the style of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek-American
--Pankration2008 (talk) 03:42, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: How is it fully referenced? There are whole sections of text that aren't referenced. Furthermore, those two BBC pages don't give the total Greek population since the Cyprus one includes Turkish Cypriots. Your addition of text such as "Since Cyprus has a nominal Greek Cypriot population of 82%, approximately 63,000 of these British residents at the time of the Census may have been of Greek origin (assuming a negligible number of British ex-pats and servicemen giving birth abroad). Roughly 1/3 of Greek Greeks reside inside Greater London and 2/3 of Cypriots reside in Greater London" violates WP:OR.Cordless Larry (talk) 23:40, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You reverted the article back again without even bothering to read the additional references I added. That is completely dishonest. If you don't trust London Greek Radio, The National Federation of Cypriots in the UK the Greek Orthodox Church or Cyprus national broadcasted RIK then you should prove that they are not reliable sources on the history and population numbers of Greeks living in the UK. The consensus around all of these organisations is that there are over 400,000 Greek Britons and 300,000 of them reside in Greater London. --Pankration2008 (talk) 23:54, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be useful if you could find full references for these sources, including URLs if possible. Furthermore, you added far more than population estimates. Cordless Larry (talk) 23:57, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Population numbers

message: Is George Michael really a good example of a British Greek? He is more widely associated with Cyprus and British Cypriots. His connections with Greece are only that of speculated Greek descent. Is it worth keeping him up there? Sillyfolkboy (talk) 18:24, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox  pictures 

message: The Republic of Cyprus Government claims that there are an estimated 150.000 Greek Cypriots in the UK. The Greek Government states that they have around 30.000 students there. The 400.000 is a great exaggeration to say the least.Siras.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Siras (talk • contribs) 07:55, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  400.000 Greeks in Britain I doubt it 

message: I wonder why this ethnic-Greek subgroup is excluded from the infobox numbers. It fits perfectly the definition of the title. Not to mention, the relevant fact, that the same article about Turks includes the number of T.Cypriots, which I find it reasonable.Alexikoua (talk) 10:28, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Possibly because this article exists: British Cypriots. Softlavender (talk) 05:35, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Why Greek-Cypriots are excluded from infobox?

message: Source [1] is not official and is based on hearsay. According to the Home Office figures in the White Paper on article 50 (Brexit) estimates the number of Greeks in the UK to about 60000. This is in line with the 2011 census figures, where 35000 declared themselves as Greek in England and Wales. 
https://www.docdroid.net/fcur2OR/the-united-kingdoms-exit-from-and-partnership-with-the-eu.pdf.html#page=3
http://www.nomisweb.co.uk/census/2011/small_population  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.29.153.212 (talk) 22:10, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population way out of line and no reliable resource 

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