Talk:Yvonne De Carlo

message: De Carlo was her Sicilian-born maternal grandfather's name. There are numerous references in her autobiography regarding her heritage. Mchuston (talk) 23:56, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you know a source for the Italian mom info? That AION website had a message board and one of the moderators said she was Italian. But that site isn't all that reliable, and, a message board posting is not a great source, soo.... The place and time when DeCarlo was born wasn't exactly brimming with Italians. Mad Jack 23:07, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was only her mother, not both parents.  I'll look into this later. Michael 23:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know, that's what I meant. I could never find this anywhere online. Mad Jack 23:13, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See, this site even says "Actress Yvonne DeCarlo , "Lilly Munster" of TV's "The Monsters", was born Peggy Middleton, but changed her average sounding name to the more exotic, Italian sounding, Yvonne DeCarlo ." Mad Jack 23:14, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Well because they explicitly say they list people by last names, aside from the fact that they make blatant mistakes and list people like Christina Ricci without details about "how ITalian" they are. Mad Jack 23:16, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ricci is part Italian.  Were they to merely go off her quote, the information would be unencyclopedic. Michael 22:17, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Surname 

message: Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (biographies), date of death is given in the first sentence. Repeating the specific date at the end is a redundancy, which Wikipedia and editors in general frown upon.--69.22.254.111 22:30, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Manual of style note

message: See the discussion above - does anyone have a reliable source as to whether or not she really was of Italian descent?  seems to say she wasn't. (and before anyone gets excited with this source, it's an admitted Wikipedia mirror) Mad Jack 00:19, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've not (yet?) found a source that says she was (then again I haven't found one that says she wasn't). "Peggy Yvonne Middleton" doesn't sound particularly Italian, though I know that;'s not much to go on. A copy of her autobiography might say, but I for one won't be buying one, as they're going for $200+ at the moment. Tonywalton  | Talk 09:41, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Which one of us is supposed to be the racist? Doesn't matter. $200? Wow.... Mad Jack 18:12, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Italian descent?

message: Is it possible to use a different photograph or possibly two: One when she was younger and another as Lily Munster? Thanks.
scottc 18:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Photograph

message: The article states that she was married to Robert Morgan until "June 1974, when they divorced", the only cite I see is the link to MediaNewswire where it states they were married "to 1968, when they divorced" Seems like a large discrepency. PrePressChris 02:15, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Divorce Date

message: Long, long ago there was a bio piece on de Carlo in the Vancouver Sun, I can't remember which columnist or much in the way of detail, but there was some connection to Penticton in the context that she lived up there or had a place up there because, like David Duchovny's wife Tia Carrere, she couldn't stand the rain in Vancouver.  Wish I had the cite/quote it would be worth having here, plus any other connection to Penticton.Skookum1 (talk) 06:10, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Yvonne in Pencticton

message: While starring in The Gal Who Took the West (1949), De Carlo not only walked away with the picture, but she walked away with Jock Mahoney, who was her boyfriend at the time. She and Jock were going to start a family, and in 1949, they were engaged.
* I'm having trouble parsing this absolute mess.  
** What does "walked away with the picture" mean and what does it have to do with her personal life? 
** What does "walked away with Jock Mahoney" mean?  I assume it means she seduced him or something like that, but if "he was her boyfriend at the time", why was any seduction necessary?  It couldn't just mean that boyfriend and girlfriend decided to get engaged, because that's covered in the next sentence.  Or could it?  With writing of this "calibre", one never really knows. 
** Did they become engaged only because they wanted to start a family, or would they have got married anyway ... maybe because, perhaps, they loved each other?  It reads as if she was obsessed with having a child, and didn't care too much who the father was, but recognised it was socially impossible to have a child out of wedlock, so she'd have to marry the father.  This impression is reinforced when I read that as soon as the baby died in utero, she called the engagement off.
* If anyone can help out here, I'd be eternally grateful.  --  Jack of Oz [your turn] 22:12, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Jock Mahoney

message: Because Ms. De Carlo is 1/4 Maori (as mentioned in the references), it needs to be cited in the work itself. Also, is there a "Canadians of New Zealand/Maori Descent" group?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sabinal (talk • contribs) 21:10, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The Maori heritage in the references says it's a correction from Laura, and there's nothing there to indicate if that's a quote or footnote from the autobiography, or if someone named Laura just happened upon this article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.46.27.96 (talk) 01:37, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maori heritage of Yvonne De Carlo 

message: I think the theatre in this phrase "The following year at the Orpheum Theatre," isn't today's Orpheum, but the old Lyric Theatre as it was known by the 1960s, which was a block farther north on the other side of Granville Street, attached to the now-demolish second Hotel Vancouver (demolished 1948-49) which was the original Orpheum.  The current one is old enough, and what year it took the Orpheum name I'm not certain; the Lyric needs its own article, maybe atsome point....it was also known as the Vancouver Opera House.Skookum1 (talk) 01:44, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orpheum Theatre in Vancouver.... 

message: The last sentence ("Craig passed away on August 17, 2015 at her home in Pacific Palisades surrounded by her family, according to her spokesman. She had been suffering from breast cancer that metastasized to her liver") is incorrect and seems to be talking about a different person entirely.
98.117.204.104 (talk) 13:01, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Date, Manner of Death, and Name

message: I'd always though of her as "sexy but untalented". But I recently had reason to watch The Ten Commandments, and was impressed by her restrained, unaffected performance. Even more impressive was her appearance in McLintock!. If there was any question about her ability to act, that movie would have ended it. (She should have received a Supporting Actress nomination.) I would urge her son to find additional positive reviews of his mother's work. WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 17:59, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Yvonne De Carlo as an actress

message: An IP-hopping anon keeps reverting
to
Usually without an edit summary, but one time with an edit summary of "SHE WASNT A MEZZO-SOPRANO YOU DUMMIES. SHE WAS A CONTRALTO!"
Maybe she was, but the problem is, that is a direct quote (by one Bosley Crowther), and we can't edit direct quotes. Since we've been going back on forth this, technically I'm edit-warring, so I'm laying down this thread mainly as a marker to protect myself against charges of doing that unwarrantedly (could ask for article protection, but don't like that.) I invite the IP-hopping anon to come here and make his case.
If she really was a contralto, fine, and let's see a ref (I didn't find one either way, but I didn't look very hard), and if so we should remove the Crowther quote or elide that part of it, since it'd be wrong. I have no idea and no opinion on the matter (and I suspect there is probably a gray area between mezzo-soprano and contralto, also depending on age, circumstance, and whether one has had one's morning coffee yet). Herostratus (talk) 20:23, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contralto? Or mezzo-soprano? 

message: The paragraph beginning "Butch Patrick..." is in serious need of proofreading.... PurpleChez (talk) 14:29, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Munsters (1964–1966)