Talk:Stephen Hawking/Archive 1

message: There are many different vandalizations to the original article. When I went to access it the first time, it said "steven hawking is a **** (sorry about the language, just quoting it.)
Add that his book was used in the film, Donnie Darko. 
That should be added to the popular culture section.  His book was mentioned in the scene where Donnie and Professor Monnitoff were discussing time travel and worm holes. [MadGirl]
This article is in a bad state. Some particular examples:
* "there is every chance that he would never have made the discoveries he has were it not for the support of his family". Is there? Says who? Clear POV.
* "Hawking proposed that although the universe has no boundary, it is finite in space-time, and in 1983 he proved this mathematically." This should be justified further. He may have proved it based on certain assumptions, but the nature of science is that you cannot prove anything for certain. To a reader from a non-scientific background, this might sound like the last word on the subject.
* "no previous knowledge in this field is required to enjoy these books." POV.
* "an encyclopædia from which information is easily retrieved." Embarrassing.
These are mistakes that require a bit of thought to fix, and there are other basic errors. Please could someone help me bring this article up to scratch? Agentsoo 01:35, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well said. Let's get stuck in! Agentsoo 20:44, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Things to be fixed

message: According to New Scientist, Hawking plans to reveal his solution to this paradox on July 21, 2004.  Maybe this interesting bit can make its way into the article somehow.  A-giau 23:00, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black hole information paradox 

message: The article mentions that Hawking responded to the Onion article with a letter cursing them for exposing his plans for world domination.  Can someone back this up with a reference?
:it comes from http://www.answers.com/topic/stephen-hawking, but I'm no good with citing.  Would someone mind formatting it for me?
Jellocube27 07:12, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's just a mirror of this article.  (See how at the bottom it says "This entry is from Wikipedia, the leading user-contributed encyclopedia"?) On this page, Tim Harrod (senior writer for The Onion) says Hawking "learned of the parody and sent an amiable email message to The Onion" but doesn't say what the contents of the message were, and that's the only reference I could find before getting bored. Junkyardprince 18:03, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Onion 

message: It doesn't look like he's doing anything to trigger TTS.  If anyone knows how this man is able to speak, could you please put it in the article?  Thanks. --69.104.62.219 06:06, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Twitching a cheek, apparently. — ceejayoz ★ 01:11, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  speak? 

message: http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/story.jsp?story=577860 No longer works. Laundrypowder 18:35, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [2] reference link invalid 

message: Does anyone have any information about the allegations that his wife has been abusing him for years, leaving him outside in the sun for hours without water, beating, etc.?  I can't remember where I read the article, but I remember reading about it and hearing that he didn't want charges pressed 
.--TheGrza 21:41, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Doubt it.--64.219.78.241 04:41, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure that was an episode of Law and Order, of course those are "ripped from the headlines" so who knows--64.12.116.135 23:25, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I seem to remember this being in The Daily Mirror a few years ago. It was pure tabloid journalism: a journalist heard that a 52-year-old man in Cambridge was in hospital, and his wife was susupected of beating him. The journalist knew that Stephen Hawking was a 52-year-old man who lives in Cambridge and has a wife, so figured it must have been him. Hawking was apparently very surprised when he read in the papers that he had been abused. --Adam (Talk) 19:19, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abuse 

message: The current article seems to imply that he's still married to his first wife, when in fact he divorced her in 1990 and in 1995 married his nurse. Cmdrjameson 23:06, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: He filed for divorce from his second wife last year as well.  http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2006/10/20/nhawking20.xml I am surprised that no mention of his marriages/divorces is in the article. Roy 09:46, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Divorce 

message: Anybody have a picture of the science wager he had with Kip Thorne?
(NEW PERSON - the other guy forgot to sign) I don't think we'd have to - besides how is his wager about a star/black hole symbiosis relevant at all to this page? Wikisquared 22:18, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: sci wager

message: I removed much of the information in the biography because much of it was repeated elsewhere in the article.  What wasn't repeated in other sections didn't belong under biography, so I moved them to their appropriate sections.  I don't like to be so brutal with my edits, but unfortunately, the text that was added, besides being redundant and making unverifiable claims, was so florid it was unencyclopedic.  If what I did seems like a chop job, I apologize for that, though I felt it was necessary given the reasons above.
And on a more lighthearted note, to whomever wrote that UCSB (go gauchos!) isn't big in cosmology or theoretical Physics, I should point out that Walter Kohn, Alan Heeger, Herbert Kroemer, and David Gross are all professors there.  And Stephen Hawking visits our Institute of Theoretical Physics every once and awhile! Gershwinrb 00:54, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  I quite agree.  The article was entertaining and, for the most part, well written but not quite what one would expect from WP.  I think there are a still a few things in there that are a bit trivial but I like to chop even less than you.  Maybe later.  --JGGardiner 06:46, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Current edit

message: I subtly changed the chapter describing the wager (Losing an old bet) since there are two wagers that were confused as being the same. It could still use some polishing as I just made it clear they are two and not the same. More information in Scientific_wager.--nunocordeiro 23:27, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The bet

message: http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/gunsmok1.htm << Einstein died before Gunsmoke ever aired. This should be removed.
:I don't know if it should be deleted, how about a note stating that clarifying that Einstein never appeared on Gunsmoke. The quote is real, it's reference isn't.--RLent 18:46, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Einstein on Gunsmoke

message: In A Brief History of Time, Hawking considers the possibility that time has an imaginary component, and that the further you went back in time, the larger the imaginary component would become, this the universe would have no point of creation. I'm unable to grasp this idea, can anyone point me to any sites that could explain it further?--RLent 18:46, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's... crazy. Imaginary time? The mind boggles. Well, I guess it's not crazy, really. But it sounds crazy. Deskana (talk) 18:54, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Imaginary time? Markyour words 23:28, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Complex time

message: This is confusing because in the US the term ALS is used to cover all forms of MND. But Hawking's form of MND is almost certainly not ALS, please stop re-adding it. See  Jooler 23:20, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hawking refers to the disease as ALS on his own Web site. -- Freshyill 03:04, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hawking refers to the disease as ALS on his own website as does almost everyone when his name is mentioned in connection with the disease in the USA. The majority of cases of MND are ALS and consequently in the USA ALS is used as a synonym of MND. However, if Hawking had ALS he would almost certainly be dead now and most neuoroligists believe that he probably has another form of MND. Jooler 10:51, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: His disease

message: Why do we have a list of students for most of whom no article exists?  Either they are n otable (in which case they should have articles) or they are not, in which case they should not be listed.  This is pretty much common practice. Just zis Guy you know? 22:26, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If they are not notable, they should be removed from the list. --Siva1979Talk to me 18:21, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Students 

message: I think we owe Steven Hawking's page and future memory a better picture than that currently displayed. any offers?--Light current 22:40, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: None of the quotes have quotation marks around them. Is that wikipedia styling? because personally, I think it just looks sloppy. Does anyone know? Verloren Hoop 18:11, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree and I'd like to see some sources. I can't believe it's hard to source the quotations. --Popeyedoyle 23:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Quotes

message: I know there is a big secret surrounding Hawking's 
divorce and his new wife.  I thought I would find
this in the article.
: I was told Hawking has been abused by Elaine and they divorced. -- Toytoy 16:28, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enquiring minds want to know. 

message: I've made a minor edit that may or may not be complained of; where in the "Distinction" section of the article the second sentence claimed that "His first book, A Brief History of Time, was published on April 1, 1988," A Brief History of Time is not his first book, as may be seen by investigating the list of his publications at the end of this article (The Large Scale Structure of Time, published in 1973, preceded it).  Hence this first sentence has been revised to say "The first of these," with reference to the "popular science books."
--GrammarGeek 01:39, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobel prizes are for those who achieve something with a nice practical usage, like dynamite, or a fusion reactor.
The inventor of dynamite did not win a nobel prize. There is nothing peculiar about the most famous scientist not winning a nobel, because nobel prizes are not awarded on the basis of popularity polls.--59.95.5.99 21:17, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Then again, the inventor of dynamite was Alfred Nobel, so it was kind of hard for him to actually win the Nobel prize...--83.226.212.70 23:05, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  minor edit, 2006 June 13, 3:45P.M. PST 

message: Is any of Hawking's work eligible for a Nobel Prize? And if so, is it peculiar that the most famous scientist on Earth hasn't got one? Any thoughts anyone?
AGM
: Nobel prizes are for those who achieve something with a nice practical usage, like dynamite, or a fusion reactor.
The inventor of dynamite did not win a nobel prize. There is nothing peculiar about the most famous scientist not winning a nobel, because nobel prizes are not awarded on the basis of popularity polls.--59.95.5.99 21:17, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Then again, the inventor of dynamite was Alfred Nobel, so it was kind of hard for him to actually win the Nobel prize...--83.226.212.70 23:05, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: nobel?

message: According to The Outrageous Okona Joe Piscapo also cameod as himself
So im afraid mr Hawking will have problems taking that honor
--[GhOstFaCE] 16:48, 15 June 2006 (CET)
: Joe Piscopo did not play himself in that episode ... see http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/The_Outrageous_Okona#Guest_Stars where he is listed as playing "The Comic". --Dennette 21:39, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And what about that "cool" Woodstock guy in that Voyager episode with Q and Quinn? As far as I know, he played himself — his character name and actor name were identical. Sorry, I don't even remember the episode's name. — N-true 18:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Only person to play himself on TNG?

message: I am a HUGE radiohead fan and in no way did Hawking work on OK computer for the voiceover in Fitter, Happier. Just because a voice is computerized, it doesn't mean it was Hawking!!!
Sublimebrc 19:47, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Radiohead? I think not

message: I find it annoying that his Ph.D. advisor Dennis William Sciama is never mentioned in the article.  Someone with more than a passing knowledge please include htis link!  Mhym 22:59, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ph.D. advisor

message: Are there any pictures of Hawking as a young man before visible symptoms of ALS existed? JDG 06:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  pix 

message: So where is the critique in this article? This is a fan-article. --62.251.90.73 16:38, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd go further; the article barely seems to discuss his work, being dominated by his illness, his bet with Kip Thorne and 'Popular culture'. He is, first and foremost, a theoretical physicist. Yet you'd think he was some kind of Marilyn Monroe-esqu icon by reading this piece. Personally, I'm shocked this one has been deemed a Good Article. It bares scant resemblance to an entry in a proper encyclopedia. Compare Albert Einstein, for instance. --Popeyedoyle 23:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Critique

message: Substituted at 22:07, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment