Talk:Moon Area High School

message: Semi protected due to continuous vandalism.
EdwinHJ | Talk 20:51, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: protectorate

message: I am removing all unreferenced information from this article. If you would like to restore it, providea a source to cite. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 23:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: (edit conflict) That's a lot of info to delete. I don't want to have to do this, so please find sources, or I will have to remove it. Sports results should be a in a newspaper somewhere. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 23:37, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Who's going to delete most of the entries in List of notable University of Pittsburgh people? You've deleted two of them. As far as I can tell, only a small handful have sources. What about the rest? Seriously, you could apply the same level of rigor and delete half the content of most of our technical articles.  You could put a  tag after nearly every paragraph in Light bulb or Kinetic energy and delete more than half of those articles if no one took the time to find a source (and while it's not that difficult, it is rather time-consuming). OhNoitsJamie Talk 23:43, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said before, I deleted all four listings that neither had an article nor a citation. Again: Stop using poor logic to defend this mess of an article. If you feel those articles need work, go do it. But their problems don't justify this article's, and this is the article we are discussing, not those. Again: Help us find citations, or we will be deleting what we can't find. And if you continue to push this, I will file a request for comment, and the Wikipedia community will delete the information. I came here as an administrator, but now I am stuck debating you, so I will have to find other editors to deliver a consensus. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 00:05, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced information 

message: I realize that it's good form to have citations, but some of these things, while common knowledge to attendees or local residents, will probably not have references available on the web.  You can easily see in Lou Christie's biography at imdb that he's from Glenwilliard, PA, which is in the Moon Area School district. I personally knew a few of the people mentioned on this list.
I agree with Write on 1983 that sports information need not be cited (unless it's something POVish like "they are the best team in the state."  Look around any sports article on Wikipedia; you won't see references for every single score or statistic.
It's also easy to watch The Fish That Saved Pittsburgh and recognize the gym.   tags are necessary for any informational that is potentially controversial or subject to dispute, but I don't see why something as innocuous as alumni or film locations needs to be sourced.  If you apply that level of strictness to citations, you'll end up deleting half of the content of Wikipedia. 
For example, should three fourths of the List of notable University of Pittsburgh people article be deleted because the entries are not sourced? 
OhNoitsJamie Talk 23:18, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I maintain List of notable University of Pittsburgh people, and I just removed all of the uncited people on the list. All four of them. We are questioning the validity of these claims, so they need to be sourced. Please read the policies/guidelines I keep linking to. Sports stuff has to be cited. I don't know who you are, so I have no reason to believe a claim you make in an article. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 23:49, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Where is the source for Keith Haring? The article about him? His alma mater isn't sourced there either. Or Justin Sane? His Wikipedia article mentions Pitt, but that information is not sourced either. I'm well aware of the policies you are referring to; my point is that there is a point where such a rigorous application flys in the face of common sense. OhNoitsJamie Talk 23:57, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't use the "that article is bad, so this one should be too" argument with me. Just because those articles are lacking, does not justify the mess this one is. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 00:00, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The point is that none of those articles have sourced the information about the University of Pittsburgh, which means that the alumni article is not properly sourced. I'm not saying that "Common knowledge" is an acceptable source, I'm just seeking common sense. OhNoitsJamie Talk 00:09, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Common sense is based on common knowledge. There is no common sense on Wikipedia. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 00:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't see how that essay applies here; the common sense that I'm talking about is citing where information is likely to be questioned or dipusted versus citing every single paragraph or sentence. OhNoitsJamie Talk 00:28, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's all well and good, but I'm questioning it. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 00:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cite tags

message: While the movie trivia about MAHS is unique, it doesn't belong at the top since this film is not the school's claim-to-fame.  It is, simply, nothing but odd trivia.--Write On 1983 03:19, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? Because according to this, it was in a major motion picture, which means that many people apparently have seen it in that context. Besides, trivia sections are awful and to be avoided, and this one only had one item. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 05:17, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The section referring to the film should be included.  That's your opinion that trivia sections are awful.  It is quite interesting to read some odd trivia.  The gym is clearly seen in the film, and I'll search the WWW for a source of it.  But it is an interesting tid bit of information, so I do believe it should be included. --Write On 1983 22:00, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: film trivia

message: I updated the sports info, citing everything except cross country.  I also updated the intro into the sports section to discuss that Moon offers 23 sports plus cheerleading.  Not all sports that Moon offers are sanctioned by the WPIAL and/or PIAA.  For instance, Moon offers gymnastics but the PIAA doesn't technically sanction it, a committee of gymnastics coaches operate the state-wide league.  Rather than get too technical on the article, I chose to brief it.  I forgot to mention that this is a sports-worshipping training ground for the kind of thing that goes down at Penn State...academics entirely forgotten.  Although I suppose you could infer that from the entry. --Write On 1983 19:39, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Moon Sports

message: This might just be my inner band kid speaking out, but this article is heavily centered on athletics. There isn't much about the school itself -- that, and the information that isn't athletics-related is for the most part uncited. ɯɐɔ 💬 13:17, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. It's a common problem with high school articles. This one certainly has excessive sports details and some non neutral language that should be trimmed. Unless there is a particularly good reason we only list the highest level of titles, so the Conference and Division titles are not needed. Even less germane are the losses and the detailed info about particular games. Outside of the school's students (and maybe even only the team members), who cares to know by what score and to whom they lost a given low-level game? Terms such as "boasting", "much success", and "even more success" should be toned down. Meters (talk) 16:32, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Athletics 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 6 external links on Moon Area High School. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.masd.k12.pa.us/facility/teachweb/jmorton/moon_varsity_swimming_and_diving.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070205161329/http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=MILOTRIC01 to http://www.databasefootball.com/players/playerpage.htm?ilkid=MILOTRIC01
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070927024151/http://kdka.com/topstories/local_story_247213428.html to http://kdka.com/topstories/local_story_247213428.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060612221619/http://www.masd.k12.pa.us/ to http://www.masd.k12.pa.us/
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060612221619/http://www.masd.k12.pa.us/ to http://www.masd.k12.pa.us/
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060614152116/http://www.masd.k12.pa.us/Contest_Entries/student2/masd/sports/sports.htm to http://www.masd.k12.pa.us/Contest_Entries/student2/masd/sports/sports.htm
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 21:45, 9 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on Moon Area High School. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080926150729/http://www.masd.k12.pa.us/facility/teachweb/jmorton/wpial%20champs.htm to http://www.masd.k12.pa.us/facility/teachweb/jmorton/wpial%20champs.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070212103344/http://www.blueandgold.com/coaches/coach.cfm?coachid=26 to http://www.blueandgold.com/coaches/coach.cfm?coachid=26
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 07:32, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified (February 2018)