Talk:List of Bulgarian monarchs

message: I have a disk full of information on the following Bulgar monarchs.  Some of it is more reliable than others, however:
Kardarm (Nationalist, unreliable)
Krum (researched in diffrent texts, reliable)
Omortag (researched in different texts, mostly reliable)
Presian (nationalist, unreliable)
Boris I (fully reliable.  Good authorities and a decent variety of them)
Vladimir (as above, part of the Boris I story)
Simeon I (Fairly reliable.  Famous Tsar, a lot of info)
Peter I (only one text - moderately reliable)
Boris II (as above - PS: Roman was a castrated exile, never a Tsar - he renounced his untenable claims to Samuel)
Samuel (fully reliable.  A ton of various translated Byzantine and English texts)
Gabriel Radomir and Ivan Alexander - connected to Samuel (should be reliable)
Peter II and Ivan Asen II (Unreliable)
Kaloyan (V. reliable.  Most different accounts concur on his reign)
Ivan Asen II (as above)
Ivaljo (nationalist, unreliable)
Teodor Svetoslav (as above)
Michael Sisman (fairly reliable - about 3 varying texts)
Ivan Alexander (reliable)
Ivan Sisman (as above)
Ivan Stratsimir (as above)
I won't commit them to mail, unless requested to do so.  If you want them, please open spaces on the list for me to edit
Simon
:The Bulgar monarchs can be changed into links by putting them in between 's. For instance, Boris I of Bulgaria. kt2 18:52 16 Jul 2003 (UTC)
Daccos (talk) 15:40, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
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message: There is a great confusion with the titles of Bulgarian rulers, who were khans, princes, kings and tsars (emperors). The confusion comes from the Bulgarian tradition, including in folklore, to call any monarch a tsar. The title of tsar comes from the name of Caesar and means "emperor". The first Bulgarian (self-proclaimed) tsar is Simeon I the Great, while the first tsar recognized internationally (that is, by Byzantium) as such (emperor) is Peter I, Simeon's son.
The rulers of the Third Bulgarian state were tsars in name only, and were internationally recognized just as kings. They are Ferdinand, Boris III and Simeon II of the house of Saxe-Coburg-Gotha. Prince Alexander Battenberg, mentioned here as "tsar", was just a prince. Bulgaria was a tributary principality of the Ottoman Empire  in the period 1878/9-1908.
85.11.148.52 08:22, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The nominalia use the Slavic "knjaz". There's some evidence that suggests that "khan" was used, as described in the Bulgars article. For tsar/emperor, see that article; it meant "emperor" in the middle ages and "king" in the 20the century. Knjaz is practically the same as prince. --91.148.159.4 00:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Who is a tsar and who is a khan, a prince, a king?

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message: What i about Ajjar of Bulgaria? He is mentioned as the successor of Tervel in the navbox at the bototom of the article, but I can not find his name nor here nor in the Template about Bulgarian monarchs. What was his rule? May he be listed here as a disputed khan or like a khan? Waht is about him? --Ksanyi (talk) 09:51, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I'm aware with Ajjar he's more a myth than a real ruler. The only source supporting his presence is "Bahši Iman, Džagfar Tarihy, vol. III, Orenburg 1997.". I don't think that he should be included in the navbox, since his presence is a minority view point, not widely accepted. --StanProg (talk) 23:51, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ajjar 

message: Why isn't Constantine II of Bulgaria on the list?  --  Jack of Oz [your turn] 00:36, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Constantine II of Bulgaria

message: Guys//i've found one thing..all bulgar khans names is a usual names in Malasia/Indonesia ..facebook will help u //exmpl https://www.facebook.com/irnik.heriawati  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.238.127.38 (talk) 02:26, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: ))) it's a pretty much colorful subject. bulgarian empire had tatar rulers. slavic rulers. armenian rulers. and even german rulers. that was pretty much the same with the population, which they try to present as monolithic.89.205.59.148 (talk) 18:55, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  not Tatar, they came to Europe much later (13th-14th century) and were of a different branch of Turkic people. Bulgars were more or less close to Huns and entered Europe with a much earlier migration, in the 4th-5th century 89.25.21.237 (talk) 15:42, 3 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Malasian names 

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