Talk:Beer in Australia

message: I notice the table of Beer Glass Sizes is ...[ misinforamtion removed by original contributor,  see below ...mea culpa !]
--Textbot 07:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What are your suggested changes? I can help you change the table
Update : geeze, lucky I didn't change the table : on reflection, is see it refers to the PRESENT, as distinct from the Historical PAST to which I referred ....--Textbot 07:06, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Very comprehensive! Up to the early 90s in Queensland 8 oz beers were regularly served in Brisbane but 7 oz in country areas. I lived in Bundaberg then Maryborough and beers were usually ordered as "a seven please" or "three tens and two sevens please (i.e. in a 'shout')". Nowadays they seem to have almost completely disappeared, but I have seen some elderly patrons at our local RSL club being served beer in a 'seven' glass.--MichaelGG 03:50, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The template is up for deletion on the grounds that it contains errors and it is not referenced.  Can it be saved? Jɪmp 15:38, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Beer Glass sizes

message: I've replaced the old table with Template:Aust Beer Glass.  The new table is a combination of the old one & a similar one that had resided on Australian words/Australian English vocabulary/Australian English terms for food and drink.  The new table is a little different to the old one but there are reasons for this.  Whether these reasons are the right reasons is another question.  Please have a look at the new table & correct any errors.  Jimp 05:20, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Very comprehensive! Up to the early 90s in Queensland 8 oz beers were regularly served in Brisbane but 7 oz in country areas. I lived in Bundaberg then Maryborough and beers were usually ordered as "a seven please" or "three tens and two sevens please (i.e. in a 'shout')". Nowadays they seem to have almost completely disappeared, but I have seen some elderly patrons at our local RSL club being served beer in a 'seven' glass.--MichaelGG 03:50, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The template is up for deletion on the grounds that it contains errors and it is not referenced.  Can it be saved? Jɪmp 15:38, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New beer glass template

message: This is an oversimplification, the problem with temperature is that, unlike more temperate countries such as the UK and Ireland, the climate can vary wildly, for example Melbourne's "4 seasons in one day" and before modern temperature control systems the brewing of ale could be a hit or miss affair, likely to be interrupted by cold snaps as well as heatwaves (areas such as Ballarat or Toowoomba which get very cold and had long established breweries)
Lager brewing is ideally suited to the climate because the temperature control system (i.e. refrigeration)works well in hot weather, and is aided by cool weather - a "win win".
Have amended page slightly --MichaelGG 23:57, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Too hot for ale brewing?

message: I think there is a distinction to be made, as these two are NOT identical categories: Speciality is much more than the micros ! I have also re-posted my links to "cosmopolitan"...Feroshki (talk) 07:52, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Specialities & Micros

message: I have read in a couple of places, including a family history "Tablets of Memory", that the Cohn Bros brewery in the Victorian gold fields was the first in Australia to brew lagers - one of the Cohn brothers went to Germany to learn the new technique. This contradicts the statement in the article that Gambrinus brewed the first lagers in Australia. What are the sources for this statement?
Dr Tom Conway (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 00:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cohn Bros

message: This article states the pint used in Australia is 570ml/20fl oz.  A pint is 568ml/20 fl oz.  is this a mistake or are the pints actualy made up to 570 in Aus?  --Brideshead (talk) 10:42, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: pint

message: I came across a bottle of Toohey's Extra Dry recently in the (odd!) size of 696ml, which AFAIK is nothing equivalent to a round measure in the usual international systems ( UK or US)which it might be if it was an export size ( what about Japan, though ?). This is interesting because it contradicts the trend towards "unit pricing", and is thus "anti-consumer". Any ideas ?
Feroshki (talk) 22:35, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New ? Bottle size 

message: So what about jugs? I am not sure if they are common in all states/territories, or whether there is standard size for them.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.196.92.158 (talk) 23:57, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jug 

message: Quick question - an IP added: 350 ml (12 fl oz) known as a "metropolis" to the list of SA beer sizes. I'm not much of a beer drinker, but I haven't heard of that size before - it could be my ignorance, but because it was unsourced I removed it for now. Is anyone able to confirm that this is a South Australian beer glass size? - Bilby (talk) 14:14, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've occasionally heard it here in SA but I don't think its widespread. -- PennyDancer  — Preceding unsigned comment added by PennyDancer (talk • contribs) 13:18, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beer in SA 

message: This article is about the most piece-meal and worst written article I've come across. A lot of drunks trying to write something sensible (hic). Needs to be locked and rewritten by a professional piss pot.  "Fosters bros arrive from NY with refrigeration equipment ..."  Didn't the Australian Thomas Mort invent the first commecial friges. NOT freakin New Yorkers !!!! Where ice is available all year 'round!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.213.61.59 (talk) 09:07, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The template is from 2008 and this article is still not up to standard. I am going to do some work on it now, but any help will be very much welcome, as 5 years is long enough!--Soulparadox (talk) 12:51, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs a Re-Write 

message: I remember this from my childhood (Melbourne in the 40s). Where did it come from and who made it? Is there any connection with a brewer named William Henry Abbott who was active as a brewer in Launceston around 1880? Pamino (talk) 00:59, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abbott's Lager? 

message: I tried to add this new section but I don't have access. Can someone add it.
Beer and spirits are heavily taxed by the Federal Government compared to wine. All alcoholic beverages incur an excise that is in addition to other taxes. There is little on no excise on domestically produced wine. For 2015 typical prices, the effective cost of 1L of alcohol is $125 in spirits, $113 in beer, and less than $30 in wine in bulk 4L casks. Beer and spirits are produced mostly by large companies most of which are owned international concerns. Wine and wine grapes are produced on farms and many of which are family concerns. In keeping with policies of agricultural protectionism, farm products are treated with favour and wine is not excised. The excise on the 'big business' beer and spirits is claimed to place a curb on excessive alcohol consumption. Nevertheless most alcohol abuse occurs with cheap wine and particularly with the bulk cask wine. 4L and 5L casks of 10% ABV wine can be purchased often for less than $10. A 9L carton of 4% beer costs $45. It is a case of a cash grab by the Federal government using reasoning that they do not adhere to themselves.27.33.247.208 (talk) 05:36, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taxation 

message: This might be a useful reference: "Take a butcher's hook at the butcher glass", Brews News, Brett J. Stubbs (2012). https://www.brewsnews.com.au/2012/06/09/take-a-butchers-hook-at-the-butcher-glass/
In addition to the "butcher", the article also mentions the downshift in SA serving sizes. 
Despite some stories of small servings for short workers' breaks, the butcher may have originally been a large serve intermediate between a half-pint and a pint (like the NSW schooner). 
Pelagic (talk) 10:38, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article on SA butcher and serving sizes 

message: The section regarding the volume measurements used has a part which is poorly written and lacking in consistency. 
>The (425 ml) schooner is only regularly requested in NSW and most other states generally drink the smaller pot or middy. A pint is a misnomer in all states bar NSW. In NSW and WA a pint is the larger imperial measure, in all other states it is the 425-475ml NSW schooner.
It claims that the 20 fl oz pint is only regularly used in NSW and WA, when Victoria by my knowledge frequently uses it as well. This assertion also contradicts that given in the table above it. I am not confident enough with my sources to change it currently though.Deonyi (talk) 01:36, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Units used inconsistency and inaccuracy 

message: I note under History 19th century that an extract from the book "For the term of his natural life" by Marcus Clarke is used to reinforce claims of ongoing public inebriation at that time, including drunkenness in children. While the novel was based on research undertaken by the author as well as a visit to the penal settlement of Port Arthur, Tasmania, none but the author can possibly know how much is truth and how much is fiction.
A fictional book does not necessarily reflect real life, so using a quote from a piece of fiction should be removed, otherwise where is the data to actually confirm its veracity? If there is historical data on which this novel is claimed to be based, then I suggest that the historical data should be used to confirm this claim, and not a book of fiction.
Tzali (talk) 05:13, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Using an extract from a book of fiction as a quote about real life should be removed