Talk:Steve Albini

message: I'm fairly confident that Steve doesn't rely solely on room mics to get his signature sound.  He's well known for using them extensively in his work, but he surely mics each  instrument individually and records them to their own dedicated tracks as well.  206.15.76.98 19:17, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recording Process

message: The article states:
His playing style in the 1980's was often compared to that of Charo, lead guitarist of Black Flag.
Charo was never in Black Flag.  Chavo was, but he sang.  Greg Ginn was Black Flag's guitarist.
===Unsourced claim===
The above has now been edited to:
:His playing style in the 1980's was often compared to that of Greg Ginn, lead guitarist of Black Flag.
which is an unsourced claim that in all likelihood is not true (see WP:CITE).  I'll delete it shortly. --- Charles Stewart 15:30, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comparison

message: The above has now been edited to:
:His playing style in the 1980's was often compared to that of Greg Ginn, lead guitarist of Black Flag.
which is an unsourced claim that in all likelihood is not true (see WP:CITE).  I'll delete it shortly. --- Charles Stewart 15:30, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Unsourced claim

message: From Engineering anecdotes, end of 1st paragraph:
Another Albini trademark is his habit of generally keeping vocals "low in the mix," or much less prominent than is usual in drug music.
What's "drug music"? Is this a typo? {unsigned}
:No, its vandalism. Fixed. --NightMonkey 00:07, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Drug Music?

message: Can anybody start making a list of albums that Albini has recorded/produced? Then More can aid... {unsigned}
:Uh, a wikilink is right there in the first section... --NightMonkey 00:04, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: List of Albini albums?

message: Can anyone find a source for the reference to Albini's work with Fugazi? I haven't been able to find one.
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There isn't one... wishful thinking on someone's part. Fugazi (at least credit-wise), are entirely in-house with Dischord.
couldn't someone just call him and ask? (j/k)
My only thought is that he recorded a live show in chicago or something...
:::In the Nirvana bio Come As You Are by Michael Azerrad, it says that Fugazi had recorded an album with Albini, but both parties were dissatisfied with the results.  206.15.76.98 19:09, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Albini recorded demos for In on the Kill Taker with Fugazi. - 203.194.16.97 01:19, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Albini with Fugazi 

message: There isn't one... wishful thinking on someone's part. Fugazi (at least credit-wise), are entirely in-house with Dischord.
couldn't someone just call him and ask? (j/k)
My only thought is that he recorded a live show in chicago or something...
:::In the Nirvana bio Come As You Are by Michael Azerrad, it says that Fugazi had recorded an album with Albini, but both parties were dissatisfied with the results.  206.15.76.98 19:09, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Albini recorded demos for In on the Kill Taker with Fugazi. - 203.194.16.97 01:19, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
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message: Can someone upload a photo of Steve? He's totally dreamy.
that's sweet, but it doesn't belong here.
allow me to GTFY-
https://www.google.com/search?as_st=y&tbm=isch&as_q=&as_epq=steve+albini&as_oq=&as_eq=&imgsz=&imgar=&imgc=&imgcolor=&imgtype=&cr=&as_sitesearch=&safe=images&as_filetype=&as_rights=
duncanrmi (talk) 14:43, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: Any citation for Albini's ancestors coim' from Lombardy, close to Milan.
In Italy we have regional family names, and Albini is a typical one from Milan and Metro Area.
Also the other member of Big Black Jeff Pezzati have surely ancestors from the Milan Province.
Both surnames are typicall of that area, and not diffused in othere regions of Italy.
Emigration from North Italy started in the XVIII century, 100 years before the one from South, and the largest part of North Italians went to live in California and partially in the Lake District.
:I've removed the information entirely as it's irrelevant trivia. SethTisue 13:22, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italian ancestors 

message: "He has also shown interest in recording modern hardcore bands such as California's Trash Talk and Amsterdam's Vitamin X." Is there a citation for this, or is just gossip? NeutronTaste (talk) 02:32, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Hardcore bands?

message: If the death isn't a hoax, it needs citation.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.7.210.160 (talk) 03:42, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Death

message: It might be worth noting his views on sampling (as expressed in Copyright Criminals) somewhere in the article. -Grammaticus Repairo (talk) 16:59, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Views regarding music sampling

message: Spotted in Boing Boing : Albini's Cooking blog
While it doesn't count as professional writing, his description of brussels sprouts haters as "the climate-change deniers of food" might qualify as punditry. / edg ☺ ☭ 20:09, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cooking blog 

message: http://www.negativland.com/news/?page_id=17 
41.204.78.170 (talk) 08:41, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  http://www.negativland.com/news/?page_id=17 

message: It turns out that Steve Albini is the cousin of Rick Moranis. Rick will be recording his new album at Electrical Audio for free. In return Steve Albini will be getting a bit part in the new Honey I Shrunk the Kids movie.King of Bullshit (talk) 12:58, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rick Moranis 

message: Shouldn't his career as a pro poker player be mentioned? See for example https://www.wsop.com/players/profile/?playerid=97925 2601:14D:8A00:9E10:2DAE:5BA7:41C1:FBCD (talk) 05:16, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Wasn't a "pro poker player" but made some significant money at it. Definitely worth a mention as more than a trivial hobby. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 12:47, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  pro poker player 

message: The lead (or "lede" as some insist on calling it) is far to big. Per MOS:LEAD, it should be a brief summary of the subject matter that follows. Most of it should be either moved to an appropriate section or omitted from the lead altogether. Consider that many people read only the lead of an article. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 23:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The lead needs an overhaul imo, but I'm planning to get to it last after sorting through the rest of the article, which also needs an overhaul. Popcornfud (talk) 23:51, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Much as I agree that it's in a transitional state for reading, so is the rest of the article. None of us have really figured out the highlights yet so we're gonna have to wait. The lede is usually the last thing I focus on after editing because it relies on the body, which is unfinished. Carlinal (talk) 01:56, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, plus one to that. Popcornfud (talk) 15:20, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: As the person who expanded the lead from stupid shit to a broad, but perhaps "rudimentary reading level for snobs" overview the day after his death, my advice for the "skilled editors" taking this on is to approach it in summary style...early life, the 3 bands and production....treat each section as if were a lead. But ffs get on with it rather than bitching about it. There are vast sources. Ceoil (talk) 23:24, 16 May 2024 (UTC)

text: PS Max, I disagree with your premis that if the article body is weak then the lead should be corrispondingly short...if thats all people read, then should the lead not be the main focus. Ceoil (talk) 23:39, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead is far too big 

message: It is (or was in the pre-internet days) very common for indy bands to release several EP's and singles. Arguably singles and EPs rather than albums are the mainstay of the punk/hardcore/indy scene. For example while it is true in the literal sense that Big Black released only 2 albums, their EPs, singles and appearances on compilations make up a significant part of their work. When describing or summarizing an indy band's output, EPs, singles and possibly compiliation appearances should be included. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 04:11, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fine for articles on the band's themselves, but per summary style let's establish the context first before we go down the listy route. IMO whats most lacking here is describing Shellac's sound and why it became so influential on post-hardcore. The big danger is that editors pad it out with add a bunch of quoted accolades; which is sooo typical of wiki.Ceoil (talk) 05:14, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The point is that mentioning only albums and omitting mention of their other recordings gives a distorted view of the extent of their output. Big Black's four EPs in particular are significant releases. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 05:27, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: SOFIXIT. But it would be better if you put Big Black in the context of Albini's career first. Drum machine, etc. It puzzels me why you needed to open a section on talk to complain. Ceoil (talk) 05:53, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, it's called discussing potential improvements to the article. I think that's what talk pages are for? I'm a bit reluctant to jump in when we've already got 3 or 4 editors currently making extensive changes to the article. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 06:39, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Your wasting my time. Ceoil (talk) 07:34, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: What's with the WP:BATTLEGROUND? It is totally normal practice to raise content issues on a talk page. Stop making it personal. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 11:24, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emphasis on albums at expense of EPs and singles