Talk:U-boat

message: Shouldn't this be under "U-Boat" instead?  Or should we move most of the foreign countries, as well as many United States cities (e.g. New Orleans)?  --KQ
:If anything, it should be "U-boot" as it is short fort the German language "Unterseeboot", not the English language "Underseaboat" or something similar.... 213.236.117.2 12:11, 27 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Article title

message: 'The distinction between U-boat and submarine is common in English-language usage but unknown in German where the term U-Boot refers to any submarine.'
This baffles me as much as the Germans. What is the distinction? Does 'u-boat' refer to German WWII submarines only? Joffeloff 23:05, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In English, "U-boat" invariably means a German submarine, usually of World War II but the term is also used regarding World War I. Post-war German submarines were officially "Unterseeboot n", but I don't believe the term U-boat is generally used in English for them. (That said, post-war German naval vessels rarely appear in normal English-language discourse...) Shimgray | talk | 00:39, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

text: The use that Churchill was advocating was so that in signals unidentified submarines could be distinguished from known enemy ones. If the term 'submarine' was used in a report then the receiver knew that it was either friendly or unidentified. If the term 'U-boat' was used however, the receiver of the signal knew that it was almost certainly enemy, and could launch the appropriate countermeasures. That is why the term encompassed German, Italian, and Japanese submarines - if a 'submarine' was reported it might be a friendly one, if a 'U-boat', then it almost certainly was not. British submarines had to traverse the UK waters when leaving port and going to their 'billets' (patrol areas) so Allied aircraft needed to bear in mind that not every submarine they encountered on the surface was necessarily a German one. The use of different terms made for less risk of confusion, and less chance of 'friendly fire' incidents, it being very difficult to recognise submarines from the air in perhaps bad weather. For this reason, both British and German submarines would invariably dive upon sighting any aircraft, it being better to be safe rather than sorry.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.4.57.101 (talk) 22:22, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition 

message: Could this instrument, seen fielded on many submarines before 1960, be talked about for a bit? :) Henning 06:07, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sub-net cutting instrument 

message: I'm getting really tired of " and was a factor in the United States' entry into the war nearly two years later." The Zimmerman telegram was the important factor, & constant harping on Lusitania is perpetuating a fiction.  Trekphiler 05:19, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The ''[[RMS_Lusitania|Lusitania]]'' lie

message: The article currently has two different sections listing U-Boat types. The two lists have zero overlap.
I've removed the first one, and copied both lists here so that we can discuss what should go in the article. --Zippy 07:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: (Oops, did someone do this already? Xyl 54 (talk) 12:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two sections for U-Boat classes which don't appear to agree 

message: (moved to article under U-boats of World War II)
The first list gives German WW I U-boat types, the second one WW II types.88.65.100.238 16:31, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: (Oops, did someone do this already? Xyl 54 (talk) 12:53, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second list: "U-boat classes" 

message: I think this is wrong, being that it was not the only location subject to firect attack by German forces in North America. When I was at some base in North Carolina, a local museum said that the base was fired upon by deck guns from a U-boat.
::You get stories like that all the time.  There was a lot of excitement on the US east coast in the early years of US involvement, many ships were sunk on the east coast within sight of the shore, which had a notable negative effect on morale.  Although it is plausable that there were other attacks, most likely the majority of sightings and reported 'attacks' were akin to modern-day UFO sightings: exaggerations or imaginings.  A U-boat shelling a naval base would be an incredibly stupid move by a U-boat commander, one that would almost guarantee a retaliatory attack, which commanders were instructed to avoid at all costs.  Antimatter--talk-- 15:51, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bell Island became the only location in North America to be subject to direct attack by German forces 

message: This section is geographically misleading.  It begins with, "Two events in the St Lawrence...", however, Bell Island is located in Conception Bay, Newfoundland.  Conception Bay opens North into the Atlantic Ocean; not South towards the Gulf of St Lawrence. PraysToPan (talk) 05:54, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Battle of the St. Lawrence 

message: Mak 3 diesel engine, which is apparently an upgraded version of the engine used on U-boats. Not sure if this is useful for the article, but it might be for some related article. - Jmabel | Talk 02:32, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Presumably manufactured by Maschinenbau Kiel.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.147.13 (talk) 17:07, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Engine 

message: The Orkney Wireless Museum contains a U-boat radio which I believe is from a captured U-boat,  though I don't know which one.  Given the U-boat activity in Scapa Flow,  I thought it worth adding a link to the museum.  I wasn't sure whether a new section should be added regarding preserved U-boats/equipment,  but for the time being I've put it in the section with the other internal links.
G J Coyne (talk) 22:23, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  U-boat radio 

message: My understanding is that a U boat Type represents a standard design for mass production during war time, as seen in WWII, but that prior to WWI the U-boats were built in a series of classes. 
So the WWI Types were the Mittel U , U Cruiser and the various UB and UC Types only.
Can anyone shed any light on this? Xyl 54 (talk) 12:52, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: WWI Types

message: "The first submarine built in Germany was the Brandtaucher, designed in 1850 by the inventor and engineer  Wilhelm Bauer and built by Schweffel & Howaldt in Kiel for the German Navy."
In 1850 Kiel was a part of lands of the King of Denmark, it was not until 1864 that Kiel became German, So how could a submarine in Kiel in 1850 be german?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.145.236.194 (talk) 19:27, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point: Bauer was German, but it seems he was working for the government of Schleswig-Holstein when he built the Brandtaucher (see here and here). Xyl 54 (talk) 23:58, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Kiel

message: The HMS Britania was sunk 2 days before the Armistice by a UBoat, we should include it in the Table Below.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMS_Britannia_(1904)200.48.214.19 (talk) 20:00, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uboat Template. 

message: The official name of German WWII submarines was always unhyphenated. Like U 995 not U-995. Someone should change that for all boats.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.65.79.241 (talk) 12:06, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: If the source has more details, I think it's worth adding, e.g. was it an improvement of depth-keeping or a reduction in sensitity or something else? In the UK, "technology" has been devalued and now tends to be a Brexit supporting politician's expression for something that can solve everything he hasn't thought about or doesn't understand!  Regards JRPG (talk) 17:39, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a useless addition. Andy Dingley (talk) 19:42, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  torpedo depth keeping problem -improved technology 

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