Talk:Iranian sex tape scandal

message: If and when the names of the participants become known to the media at large, this article should probably be moved.  Ford MF 00:53, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually no; as things have developed, I now think it's better the incident gets its own article, while the participants receive bio stubs.  Ford MF 16:32, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This would make sense if you're operating under the assumption that this is the only sex tape scandal that Iran will ever produce; a foolish idea, if you ask me. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.60.208.212 (talk) 18:57, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a good point; the article title is somewhat generic.  But it can always be moved to something like 2006 Iranian sex tape scandal if the need arises.  Ford MF (talk) 14:20, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Names of participants

message: I'm not a muslim, I merely have some basic understanding of islam, but I thought that in islamic shari'a law, in order to have a conviction for adultery or fornication, you needed to have 4 witnesses present in person at the scene at the time it's happening. I'll add this to the article once it's been verified. --Witchinghour 18:43, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think 100,000 DVD sales and 1,000,000 estimated downloads adequately satisfies that requirement either way.  Ford MF 20:07, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My technical shari'a (not common law) question is about having the witnesses at the time, not 2 years later. also does iran law or shari'a law have a statute of limitations. --Witchinghour 20:56, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This Persian blog claims that the fact that the act was videotaped obviates the need for four witnesses, but I don't know how accurate that is.  I can't find any refs in reputable western news sources one way or the other.  Ford MF 21:17, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone please verify this 

message: I removed all the stuff about stoning since it's becoming (to me at least) more and more clear that the punishment is not applicable here.  When I first started the article and no one in the west knew who the girl was, there was fairly frequent speculation about stoning as a penalty for adulterers, but now that it's been reasonably established that no adultery took place, I don't think it belongs in the article any more.  I don't want it to become a pointless battleground.
Although I do want to point to Monfared, who originally posted that stoning had been "banned" in Iran, that that was only partially true, and slightly disingenuous.  Mahmoud Hashemi Shahroudi instituted a moratorium on stoning, which is altogether less binding and permanent than "banning" would imply.  Firstly, the penalty remains on the books, and the moratorium could be overturned at any time.  Secondly, in May of this year two women were rumored to have been stoned to death in Iran, so the moratorium appears like it might be little more than lip service to foreign human rights advocates.  Amnesty International says "might" and "alleged" a lot, but it's got a fairly detailed account of the alleged event.  Ford MF 20:16, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Put one ref back in. Looks like she was never legally liable to be stoned, but there was at least one politician calling for it. Ford MF (talk) 15:35, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Stoning

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