Talk:Asheville, North Carolina

message: Does anyone know where Morristown was..i am interested in researching the early history of Ashville..i need to know where the original town was...where the original crossroad was...does anyone know? It should be included in the article Lonepilgrim007 (talk) 20:20, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It was College and Lexington in case anyone is interested..where the Native American trail crossed the Buncombe Turnpike..the  Cherokee  cemetery was at the bus stop across the street from the rear entrance to the asheville music hall...under the parking garage...apparently the consumption of alcohol is more relevant to the current yuppie hipster culture that has descended on Ashville than history..who would have guessed? 00:15, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: An old newspaper article..I believe the Asheville News and Observer suggest the cemetery was possibly the Southwest corner of Lexington and Patton...the little park there...under the parking lot. 75.130.206.121 (talk) 01:59, 13 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: A friend of mine who is Cherokee told me that Pack Square is the largest Indian graveyard in the Southeastern US...this makes sense as it is in the center of town on the side of the hill there facing East..towards the rising sun..this needs to be in the article as well as the fact that that the site is also the place of the slave market 2600:1702:2340:9470:B12B:7B5A:4247:DB65 (talk) 00:29, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I was wrong..it is near the Kress building..probably across the street under the old Bank of Asheville, which is now First Bank, parking lot, which is the only flat area downtown..Pack Square was a rock out cropping that was systematically dynamited to create space for the series of courthouses built there. 2600:1702:2340:9470:A17E:8216:55A4:CE3C (talk) 15:55, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Morristown 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The timeline will not open in the article; to access the information within it, I must go to the edit page.Bayowolf (talk) 16:06, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved all the timeline materials to Timeline of Asheville, North Carolina as it was getting too long on this article. --Meanderingbartender (talk) 20:28, 27 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline of Asheville, North Carolina 

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Regards,  Spintendo  16:26, 8 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 8-FEB-2020

message: # Please clarify how and in what way the requested substitution gives a "fuller picture of local arts ecology", specifically, what is it — about the listing of the names and locations of these facilities, including the description of a renovation and its costs — which provides a fuller picture of local arts ecology? 
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Regards,  Spintendo  01:00, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 10-FEB-2020

message: Hi again Spintendo and happy Valentine's Day! Here is a new version of the proposed edit that I hope addresses these issues.
1. Please change the subheading 'Art galleries' to 'Visual arts' to encompass a broader set of cultural institutions. 
2. Please remove the existing text (currently the entirety of the section):
"The Flood Fine Arts Center is a non-profit contemporary art institution in the River Arts District.
The Asheville Art Museum in Pack Square reopened on November 14, 2019 after a $24 million renovation."
3. Please replace the above text with the following claims, with the provided references:
Asheville has been recognized as an art-friendly city, appearing in 2018 and 2019 in the top percentile among cities of its size on SMU/DataArts' Arts Vibrancy Index, which measures “supply, demand, and government support for arts and culture" among cities across the United States. Historically, Asheville has connections to the American handicraft revival and to the mid-20th century avant-garde through Black Mountain College, which operated nearby from 1933 to 1957.  
Art museums dedicated to the region's historic and contemporary artistic movements include the Asheville Art Museum, presenting exhibitions and public programs relating broadly to 20th- and 21st-century American art; Black Mountain College Museum + Arts Center, preserving the history and influence of Black Mountain College through exhibitions, public programs, and residencies; and the Southern Highland Craft Guild's Folk Art Center, dedicated to Appalachian craft traditions.
Other arts centers and galleries in Asheville include the Flood Gallery Fine Arts Center, the Young Men's Institute Building Cultural Center, the Center for Craft, Blue Spiral 1, Tracey Morgan Gallery, and Momentum Gallery. Asheville's River Arts District is also known for its galleries, street art, and copious artists' studios, many of which are open to the public.
4. Reason for change being made:
The section as it stands right now lists only two among many arts-related institutions located in Asheville. The proposed edit is intended to reflect more comprehensive published information sources about the city's arts scene.
Cpfffr (talk) 22:01, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 14-FEB-2020

message: #  Please provide the Wikilink for the DataArts' Arts Vibrancy Index.
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#  Please provide the Wikilinks for the Center for Craft, the Tracey Morgan Gallery, the Momentum Gallery, and the Young Men's Institute Center's Cultural Center.
Regards,  Spintendo  14:16, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 17-FEB-2020

message: # The Arts Vibrancy Index does not have a Wikipedia page. I believe it is uncontroversial to mention since the institution that compiles the data has a page, and there is sufficient coverage of the dataset/reporting in the references included in the section, as well as others that should support anyone's decision in the future to create a Wikipedia page for the dataset, i.e. ArtNet News, Philanthropy News Digest, and Arts Consulting Group. It seems to me that including these citations in the Asheville article just for the sake of mentioning the city's placement on the list would be overkill. The dataset is also referred to on the Wikipedia pages for several other cities included in its top percentiles, such as (of those I can find with a hasty search) Pittsfield, Massachusetts, Hood River, Oregon, and Glenwood Springs, Colorado. However, if you deem this dataset to be controversial, I am happy to rephrase the requested edit so that it is not mentioned by name but only used as a reference. 
# Any one of the four references ending the clause about BMCM+AC should be sufficient to support the claim. Feel free to use just the most recent one.
# As above, some of the institutions listed do not yet have their own Wikipedia pages. I've included references from news sources for those ones to support their existence and significance in the context of the city's culture. Is multiple sourcing necessary in this instance for their inclusion? As above, if making the claim of the existence of these galleries is too controversial, just let me know and I'll delete them from the requested edit.
Thanks again for your help improving this page,
Cpfffr (talk) 19:36, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 17-FEB-2020

message: # Information to be added or removed: Black Mountain College Museum + Arts Center is a museum in downtown Asheville that presents exhibitions, performances, and other public programs related to the history and influence of Black Mountain College. 
# Explanation of issue: The section as it stands right now lists only two among many notable arts-related institutions located in Asheville. The proposed edit adds one more. My previous edit request was declined on grounds of not being specific enough, having included other arts institutions and information in the request. Well, maybe I overshot. 
# References supporting change: Mountain Xpress on opening of new location and Jacob Lawrence exhibition, Mountain Xpress on exhibition highlighting women of BMC, Broadway World on new location, exhibitions, and performance season, Charlotte Magazine on the history of the school & the museum.
Cpfffr (talk) 20:02, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Art galleries  

message: #  The claim regarding the Arts Vibrancy Index information was not added because the Wikilink for the index was not provided.
#  The claim regarding BMCM+AC was added, as the Wikilink was provided.
#  The other institutions were not added, as these were not independently notable in Wikipedia and the references provided for them did not originate from reliable, independent, WP:SECONDARY sources.
Regards,  Spintendo  21:19, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 17-FEB-2020

message: If it is to be changed, there should be a consensus here about it. If there isn't a consensus, the current headings and heading levels should be maintained and editors who make arbitrary changes to their own personal preferences may and should be reverted. See MOS:NOTES, WP:CITEVAR, and this arbitration ruling. Skyerise (talk) 05:06, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to longstanding end matter organization