Talk:ABF Freight System

message: Seems like this should be nominated. Basically the article reads like an extended advertisement for the service offered by this company. -204.42.24.217 06:23, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with an AFD. while there are some advertisement aspects, a majority of this article is informational.. I'll see where I think it can be tweaked to fix it up... —Cliffb 01:04, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Afd

message: Dear ABF Freight editors,
Wikipedia is encyclopedia and has a style that differs from other styles of writing: of scientific papers, of advertising, of inctruction manuals, of news reports, etc. Please refer to "what wikipedia is not" and wikipedia's manual of style. Since the latter is fairly large, a better start would probably be to take a look at another article about a similar business.
Meaning no disrespect to your business, which is of course is very useful, certain things are just not done in wikipedia. `'mikkanarxi 22:45, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Encyclopedia style

message: Consider removing this box. All the companies listed here, with the exception of ABF, are household goods carriers (HHG). ABF is a transporter of general commodites. Federal regulations that apply to HHG companies don't apply to carriers of general commodites. Therefore, it's misleading to group them here. If the box was added in an attempt to highlight competitors/alternatives to ABF and/or U-Pack Moving, then it misses the mark. Hatbird 20:43, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Nav boxes like that are to allow easy navigation between similar items, in this case moving companies. If the nav box is removed from this page, then ABF should also be removed from the template that generates the nav box. That all said, what you say makes sense, but IMHO this is something that really needs another opinion or two before it is implemented. - TexasAndroid 21:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While ABF is not a "moving company" in the traditional sense, U-Pack is, indeed, a moving service. The best fix would be to separate U-Pack as a stand-alone entry and then include the Nav box of moving entities. A Nav box could then be added to the ABF entry with similar items such as FedEx Freight, Roadway, Yellow Transportion, etc. Hatbird 21:36, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  A little digging through article histories gives us an answer about where this came from. It was indeed U-Pack that had this nav-box template, back when they were separate articles. Then U-Pack, along with the template got merged into the ABF article, then finally a few days ago the label on the template got updated to read ABF instead of U-Pack. So that tells us how things got the way that they are, but not really where to go forward from here. - TexasAndroid 22:13, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: United States Moving Companies

message: Here's the deal. I'm an agent of ABF and Centrx thinks that nothing I write about ABF can be in a NPOV. Yet I doubt that anyone else reading this article would agree. (Check Centrx's talk page to see a sad history of pompous editing and an abuse of the role of administor.) Please. Someone correct this error and remove that banner. And if I'm wrong, if this article does indeed read like an advertisement, then in the interest of fairness to all users of Wikipedia, please place this same banner above virtually all articles that discuss a public company -- the vast majority of which possess neither the clarity nor the support of references displayed here. Please help to right this wrong. Hatbird 14:32, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How could you be wrong if the person who added the banner has so sad a history of pompous editing and administrator abuse? —Centrx→talk • 21:16, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Pardon my attack on your integrity. It was reactionary, ill-advised, and unwarranted. I apologize and hereby request your guidance on matters of "blatant advertising." Please, indicate where deletions and/or revisions should be made. Thank you. And again, I sincerely apologize. Hatbird 02:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Centrx's distorted view of "advertising"

message: Upack redirects here. Executable compression however, refers to Upack as a software compression utility. This should be corrected in one of the articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.86.142.7 (talk) 14:12, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Upack