Talk:Guillaume Apollinaire

message: This article is very poor, a typical work of DW: no mention of his work, significance and impact. The French version appears to be much better. It would be nice if someone could translate their material. AxelBoldt 05:01 May 7, 2003 (UTC)
:I've not used the French version, but I've tried to plug in some stuff about his work. I daresay others know more about him that I, however. --Camembert
I don't understand why he's referred to as being just 'french' he was born in Rome and spent significant time in Italy before moving to Paris. He also was not at all ethnically French so this article needs to be more clear about his ancestry. Personally I think he should be referred to as an italo~pole. As that bears a lot more truth than what heis currently being referred to as.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.6.106.166 (talk) 14:34, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I know that Don Juan has frequently been published as by Apollinaire but I think that there is an argument against it actually being written by him, mainly on stylistic grounds.  I remember reading it years ago (in English, though), and it certainly didn't strike me as being the work of a noted writer.  And that was before I realized that other people had said it wasn't really by Apollinaire.  I suppose that if any of us cared to research this we could come up with some quotations from various people both pro and con on the subject.... Hayford Peirce 20:48, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: another sex novel

message: It is unclear what is the Henry R. painting doing in this article. Does it actually depict Apollienaire and his muse? - Alsandro · T · w:ka: Th · T 12:15, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: lead image

message: I removed the book "La Gráce et le Maintien Français, 1902 (with Molina da Silva)" from the bibliography section; couldn't find any mention of it on the net on sites other than Wikipedia and its mirrors/ripoffs: just 5 hits on Google. --Jashiin (talk) 14:59, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Molina da Silva book 

message: The following paragraph was removed with the comment, "I doubt this poet wrote about erotica and incest, also it lacks a citation"
In 1907, Apollinaire wrote the well-known erotic novel, The Eleven Thousand Rods (Les Onze Mille Verges).  Officially banned in France until 1970, various printings of it circulated widely for many years. Apollinaire never publicly acknowledged authorship of the novel. Another erotic novel attributed to him was The Exploits of a Young Don Juan (Les exploits d'un jeune Don Juan), in which the 15-year-old hero fathers three children with various members of his entourage, including his aunt. The book was made into a movie in 1987.
amazon.com lists Apollinaire as the author of The Eleven Thousand Rods - http://www.amazon.com/Eleven-Thousand-Rods-Uncensored-Classic/dp/0971457891
alibris.com lists Apollinaire as the author of The Exploits of a young Don Juan - http://www.alibris.com/booksearch?binding=&mtype=&keyword=The+Exploits+of+a+Young+Don+Juan&hs.x=0&hs.y=0&hs=Submit
I'm not sure how to cite this on wikipedia though.
Thus, history and the publishing world attribute authorship to Apollinaire, and the way the paragraph is written the authorship question is covered.
I'm restoring the paragraph.
--sparkitTALK 18:54, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Authorship 

message: This is a grotesque mistranslation. Verge (from the Latin virga), means penis, 'cock'. It only has a secondary meaning as "rod": the cylindrical leather tube of a bull's verge, filled with pebbles, also called a verge, is used as a whip or truncheon.
Besides punning with an instrument of flagellation, the title is also a play on words (verge means penis, vierge means virgin) a ribald allusion to the Eleven-Thousand Virgins who were martyred with Saint Ursula.
208.87.248.162 (talk) 19:07, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The Eleven Thousand Rods (Les Onze Mille Verges)