Talk:2004 Boston Red Sox season

message: Shouldn't there be a mention that one of their players may have been taking performance enhancing drugs during the season?  The Red Peacock (talk) 19:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No evidence that he was taking anything durring this season.Spanneraol (talk) 19:48, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Several members of that Yankees team have been linked to steroids also, are you also recommending putting this information on the Yankees page also? The comeback was an accomplishment no matter what the steroid allegations are.  This information should not be included on this page. Spanneraol (talk) 00:28, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Actually, we know at least one player on the Yankees was using performance enhancers in 2003, and that's Jason Giambi, through his own admission, and whether or not his name is on "this list". However, as I said on the baseball project page, if we add a section about PED use on this page, then every page for every team from the last 25-30 years will have to have such a section, and that's just ridiculous. Best that we keep it to the pages of the individual players, because the usage is not related to the team itself. -Dewelar (talk) 04:39, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  An article of that sort might work.. but I would think you are too biased to write it.. your opinions of the Mitchell report shows that. And we currently dont know what substances the people on the "list" failed for or when they were taking it..  It's all very subjective at this point.Spanneraol (talk) 15:31, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is not just my opinion of that report, not any longer.  Take a look at this.  http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4408083  Hell I knew Mitchell was a Red Sox fan.  I never knew he worked for them.  Now we know he had a personal agenda.  That was to smear the Yankees and leave the Sox unscathed.  That report IS BIASED  It's credibility can no longer be trusted.--Subman758 (talk) 23:41, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  There is also this page, as well as this list which have already been created for this purpose. -Dewelar (talk) 15:44, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
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message: What is the wikipedia rule on OBP? Why isn't the hitters OPB shown? That's just as commonly recognized as all the others and is far more vital than any of the others.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.191.166.243 (talk) 17:39, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
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