Talk:Pacific Islands

message: * I think it would make the page better if all the islands in the pacific would be presented in a table like the one i started on the actual page where on each island the could be most common information about them so viewers can easily find statistics about them. --88.109.191.189 10:37, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree area and population would be nice to be here, so you can see at a glance which are the most significant. I don't really see the reason for the currency, as it will mainly reflect sovereignty (independence or colonial status) which is designated in a different way. It would be nice if the separate islands in each group were grouped together more than the first one you entered is. Rigadoun  (talk) 15:07, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

text: That's true about the size, although it could be fixed by having a size at high tide and low tide, or something like that. The permanent populations are probably pretty stable, although you're right that many of them are zero. Until this is all done, though, you're right, it makes sense to remove the table. Rigadoun  (talk) 18:32, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Table of Islands

message: This page explicitly states it is focusing on islands of Oceania, and is excluding, e.g. Japanese islands and all near-coastal islands (and some, like Alejandro Selkirk Island which are anything _but_ near coastal). Therefore this page should be titled, e.g. "List of Islands of Oceania"
Additionally, the page List of islands in the Pacific Ocean should be resurrected, and should be organized as a list of island groups in the pacific ocean. Aldenrw (talk) 21:32, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename this page

message: Does this statement mean that even today we can't figure the number? I would imagine that with satellite images that would be en easy task. Avihu (talk) 18:15, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The exact number has yet to be precisely determined" 

message: Timor is on this list.  Since the Pacific ends at the Torres Strait, I would think not, and will remove it unless someone can come up with a good reason for keeping it here.
. . . . Jim . . . . Jameslwoodward (talk • contribs)  15:50, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timor a Pacific Island? 

message: This article is almost entirely devoted to South Pacific islands - Polynesia, Micronesia and Melanesia. But there are plenty of other islands in the Pacific. What about Japan, Philippines, Sakhalin, Kuril Islands, Aleutian Islands, etc.? Is there any specific reason why these are omitted? If not, then perhaps this article should be renamed to South Pacific Islands, or something similar. Bazonka (talk) 09:55, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well technically speaking the South Pacific consists of the Oceanian countries except for Palau, Marshall islands, and the Federated states of Micronesia. This article seems to be written to cover just islands in Oceania. However, you are right, there are other islands in the pacific. If you want to create a new section about nonoceanian islands, go ahead I guess! Chipmunkdavis (talk) 10:44, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: (written at the same time as the reply above -- edit conflict) Your point is well taken -- and has been raised before, without enthusiasm, see above.  This article focuses on the members of the Pacific Islands Forum -- Oceania and excludes others.  Perhaps a bold editor will either rename it or add the islands that you mention above and others. . . Jim - Jameslwoodward (talk to me • contribs)  11:06, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about the north Pacific? 

message: A map would be good.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.122.223.124 (talk) 11:21, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: calling these Islands European Islands is inaccurate and possibly offensive as they are not in Europe and the populations are not entirely European either. The islands are administered by European nations ...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.58.125.170 (talk) 17:03, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: the term European Islands

message: The article should specify its topic to either all islands in the Pacific Ocean or the three archipelagos. In the current setting, Pacific Islanders are defined to be the people of the Pacific Islands, but the article Pacific Islands contains something about all islands in the Pacific Ocean. This may cause the misunderstandings that Japanese people are Pacific Islanders. —150.210.231.30 (talk) 02:05, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: yes there is an issue here - there are plenty of Pacific Islands in the Pacific, and each one of them can be considered a Pacific Island in a very broad definition.  This appears to be the overall definition the list of islands has taken on this page.  However there are other generally used definitions of what a Pacific island is that do exclude many "pacific islands" - these more restricted definitions vary but tend to include all the islands not covered by another definition which in practice tend to be the ones not close to the Asian (Japan, Philippines?) or American (Aleutian, Vancouver, Channel Islands) continents or one of the the south East Asian Islands (Sulawesi) - and excluding Australia - which strangely is generally considered to be in Oceania but not a pacific island.  These definitions vary and live together often being used by the same people based on context.  As a personal example - I live on a Pacific Island which is clearly a Pacific Island in every definition, however I can still say I'm going to "The {Pacific] islands" for a holiday and that means I'm going on an aeroplane to somewhere (else) in Polynesia rather than Te Wai Pounamu or Waiheke.  I think the best thing to do here is to keep the page in general to include the list of all possible islands in the tradition of all inclusive Wikipedia lists (I suspect this is how the page started), but emphasise the more precise definition - as it already does.  The name ambiguity paragraph can stay if consensus agrees but will need to be edited.  the "in English" presupposes that "English" has one definition and it clearly does not.  And umbrella term is also wrong as the umbrella term is the broadest definition which it currently isn't defined that way in the article....  I will have a go at editing this.  Andrewgprout (talk) 04:28, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Andrewgprout that this page should include the list of all possible islands in the tradition of all inclusive Wikipedia lists, emphasizing the the more precise definition. Let's work together to get this right. Also ,  and ! - tucoxn\talk 21:53, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: What is this article really about?

message: ?????? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.99.3 (talk) 04:24, 15 March 2017‎ (UTC)
:Vancouver Island is in the northeastern Pacific Ocean, just off the coast of Canada. Coordinates: . - tucoxn\talk 16:31, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is Vancouver Island? 

message: I propose that Pacific Islands and List of islands in the Pacific Ocean be merged into a single article. Both articles talk about the same thing. 192.107.120.90 (talk) 19:20, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment This article's lead section is about the the three regions of Oceania, (Melanesia, Polynesia, and Micronesia), the third section is a list Pacific islands by area, and the rest of the article is collection of lists of Islands in the Pacific Ocean. I propose splitting the lead section into the Oceania article, and splitting the rest into a List of islands in the Pacific Ocean. SpanishSnake (talk) 02:52, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see exactly what there is in the lede worth splitting that isn't already in Oceania. I believe the intent of listing those three regions is to convey to the reader that there are three distinct sub-groups of "Pacific Islands". It should stay. DA1 (talk) 20:53, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Per the Merger, Merger/Split proposals above, I intend to merge the text portion of this article into the Pacific Islander article, and the list portion into List of islands in the Pacific Ocean very soon. GenQuest "Talk to Me" 12:28, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal