Talk:Endangered language

message: I was wondering if someone could help me post the external link to this forum. I'm not quite sure how to post a link in the format specified.  
It is a group a friend and myself created so I realize that this would be self-promotion, however, I feel that this link will greatly benefit anyone looking to help preserve Endangered Languages in the future, reasons being that the whole purpose of the forum is to help people study endangered languages. As of right now I'm trying to get the community to grow but once it hits off it will be a major asset in the preservation of languages.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.56.19.102 (talk) 17:33, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Axiomatic Linguistics and Graphemics Link

message: re virtually all Native American languages in danger of becoming extinct?  What about Tlingit, the languages of Alaska, Zuni, Cherokee, etc.?  -- Zoe
I'd still like some info about the question above.  Especially Cherokee.  It seems to be still thriving.  -- Zoe
:: Yes, basically all Native American languages are endangered (although I believe that in South America the situation in many places is better — however, I know so little about that continent).  If you want to learn more about this, a good place to start is here:
* Hale, Ken; Krauss, Michael; Watahomigie, Lucille J.; Yamamoto, Akira Y.; Craig, Colette; Jeanne, LaVerne M. et al. (1992). Endangered languages. Language, 68 (1), 1-42.
:: Look this up at your local library.  (If you cant get a hold of this for some reason, let me know.  Maybe I can email a copy of it to a few folks, although I probably cant email it to a million people...). Peace. - Ish ishwar 07:51, 2005 Feb 23 (UTC)
:: One point about Navajo: It is often reported that Navajo is a thriving language and that this language has the most native speakers of all other indigeneous languages in North America.  This is true.  However, it is also true that there are not as many children learning Navajo as there were, say, 40 years ago. So, if this is true of Navajo, it is very very true of so many other languages. - Ish ishwar 00:36, 2005 Mar 5 (UTC)
The list of Native American endangered languages in the Endangered Languages article seems odd. It includes Catawba (which is apparently extinct, not endangered) and Klamath-Modoc (most probably also extinct, it had one single speaker in 1998), as well as Lakota, a dialect of a language with more than 26,000 speakers. An expert on the subject should probably check the list.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.226.87.165 (talk) 14:24, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Native American

message: Causes
Children in the early to mid 1900s within the current USA and Canadian states and provinces were often stolen or their family was tricked into giving them to government agency 'residential schools'.
The residential schools in the USA and Canada, then proceeded to severely abuse the Native American Children in ways that many people can not even imagine. For example, many of those Native American Indian Children would get their tongues pierced with needles as a punishment from the nuns, when ever they dared to speak their own language. The residential schools also molested the Native American Children and abused them to the point of killing them often. The children were told on a daily basis that they were not loved nor wanted by their own families or anyone in the outside world. Those children were raised by people that never viewed them as fellow human beings, only because they did not speak english and were not raised to blindly follow the religion of the day. Many adults still exist today that survived the residential school abuse.
Looks biased to me.
* I agree, have tagged this section as WP:NPOV. Kwarizmi 17:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV paragraph? 

message: Just realized this WP appliews to a lot of articles in the NorthAmNative and in the BC and other Canadian wikiprojects; as noted all are endangered; is it redundant to include this WP'stemplate on, say, Tahltan language or St'at'imcets language or Halkomelem?Skookum1 (talk) 04:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Template placement - language pages, right?

message: Ethnologue 17, just released last month, includes estimates of the level of endangerment for all languages of the world (including sign languages), using a revision of the EGIDS scale.  Since I'm one of those who worked on these ratings (especially those for sign languages), it isn't appropriate for me to make a change in the article.  However, I'd like to point this out to the community of people working on it to let them decide whether and how this can be incorporated.
Another online resource that could be mentioned is the Endangered Languages Project (http://www.endangeredlanguages.com/), which also attempts to rate the level of endangerment.  It uses somewhat different criteria than Ethnologue, and the two references have different sources (that need to be reconciled), but overall the two websites paint a similar picture as to the number of endangered languages and degree of endangerment. Again, I'll leave this up to y'all to figure out how to incorporate this.  AlbertBickford (talk) 20:25, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Ratings of endangerment for specific languages

message: The article currently says "Language shift can be the result of linguicide, in which ethnic group members no longer learn their heritage language as their first language."  First of all, I personally strongly prefer "language death" to "linguicide". "Linguicide" is less well known, and also it is more often used in a more transitive sense,  e.g. "The invaders committed linguicide by killing off most of the members of the community and banning the use of the language by the survivors", or "The government's policy of putting children in boarding schools and forbidding the use of the heritage language resulted in linguicide." See video on linguicide in Australia
But on a slightly question about the same sentence: what is the best way to speak of "language shift" and "language death" in terms of causation. The article as it stands suggests that shift is the result of language death. But it could also be argued that the language death is the result of shift. Should we leave this sentence as it is? Reverse the causation? Or restate it in a way that does not state the direction of causation? Pete unseth (talk) 20:53, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all the definition of linguicide is incorrect, it is not linguicide when group members no longer learn the language as a first language - that is just language shift. Linguicide refers in my experience only to the effects of language policies that have the semi-intentional effect of causing language shift. It is not meaningful to say that language shift is the cause of language death - that gets the causation and the concepts backwards.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 13:28, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language death & language shift -- cause and effect 

message: Links from elsewhere about "moribund languages" redirect here,  but there is no information about it here.   and unless one was some kind of intellectual who already knew what "moribund" means,  one would be none the wiser.````  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lathamibird (talk • contribs) 04:37, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moribund language 

message: The triangular image should remove German, and replace it with Hindi and Portuguese (and possibly Bengali and Malay-Indonesian). These are the regional languages that transcend hundreds of millions of local language speakers. Cheers!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.222.165.93 (talk) 00:04, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
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replies: text: I have pointed the first link to the correct current URL. I can't really say much about the second link, but it seemed unnecessary to include a "dead site" in such a long list of "Organizations", so I just removed it. If this offends anyone's sensibilities, just undo my change.  - dcljr (talk) 01:02, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
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message: I propose merging Language preservation into Endangered language. "Language preservation" is relatively short, so that will not be a big problem. I feel that language preservation is best explained in the context of endangered languages. Thoughts?
CampWood (talk) 15:42, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: FWIW, Language preservation looks like an accidental fork of Language revitalization. I think the latter would be the better target for a merger. –Austronesier (talk) 15:54, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal -- Language Preservation into Endangered language