Talk:Romy Schneider

message: In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 22:13, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gay Icon Project 

message: She is german. Vienna was german in 1938.
She was a German national all her life. Her mother, from whom she got her last name, was German, her father Austrian. The French and German Wikipedias list her as German. I think simply calling her Austrian is a little unsatisfactory. She --128.176.21.199 20:45, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nationality

message: I can't find any verification for the story of the ransacking of her grave and I've put a :Template:Fact on it. If no confirmation is forthcoming, I'm going to delete that paragraph. Michael Bednarek 15:23, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tomb robbery 

message: Romy can be seen on the front of June 1971's Stern magazine as one of 374 women who admit to having had an abortion despite it being illegal. This was  very famous and controversial at the time and I think it's worth mentioning.  
http://germanhistorydocs.ghi-dc.org/sub_image.cfm?image_id=1592 ~~Handrejka~~  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.254.68.205 (talk) 18:27, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hardly noteworthy outside Germany. It is indeed mentioned in :de:Romy Schneider and I have added your source there — thanks for that. Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:46, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Abortion

message: A recent edit at :de:Romy Schneider stated that her birthname was Albach, not Albach-Retty. The latter was her father's stage name, borrowed from his mother, whose name was indeed Albach-Retty (she was born a Retty and married Karl Albach). I'm going to change this article accordingly. See also: aeiou, filmportal.de, tombstone etc. Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:30, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Birthname

message: I finally found a reference for the "Literature" which was added by an anonymous editor. The proper reference for the work is this monstrous URL; however, I'm not sure such a slim volume (33 pages) warrants a mention. Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:38, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Literature

message: Substituted at 04:50, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: "(...) the last guest, bank robber and author Burkhard Driest: (...)". 89.64.16.127 (talk) 04:39, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Driest committed a bank robbery in 1965 and was convicted to a term of 5 years' imprisonment of which he served 3; see :de:Burkhard Driest. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:21, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Later carreer: possible vandalism 

message: reached out to me on my talk page to ask about navigating their recent content dispute with  on this article. In general, after anyone gets reverted the first time, it's best to start a new section on the article talk page (here) and discuss in a conversation instead of cluttering up the article history with reverts. As a third party who is up for taking a look, it's a lot harder for me to follow what's going on if I have to just wade through the history - much easier if I can read an actual conversation.
Still, let's see if I can figure this out piece by piece - seems the dispute is about the following sentences:
* Lead section: "Coco Chanel called Romy “the ultimate incarnation of the ideal woman.”" and "Bertrand Tavernier remarked: “Sautet is talking about Mozart with regard to Romy. Me, I want to talk of Verdi, Mahler…”"
* Later career section: ""Sissi sticks to me just like oatmeal", Schneider once said." and "Paris Match wrote in 1971: "Forty years after Greta and Marlene, fifteen years after Marilyn, the screen again has a great star.""
The first and second quotes are not appropriate for the lead section (Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lead section), because it's supposed to be a "concise overview of the article's topic", and her popularity is already covered in a general sense earlier in the lead. The third one seems like a random choice - why quote directly from Schneider instead of giving a well-sourced sentence-sized overview of how she felt about the role? The fourth one seems out of chronological order.
There is not enough context about the first three quotes, so they're hard for me to interpret. When did these people say those things, and in what context? It's possible they're appropriate to include in the "Enduring popularity" section. But if they were to be included, the first two should be cited to specific pages in the books. It's hard to verify statements that are cited to an entire book. 
In general it seems helpful to include some amount of detail in the article to back up the claims in the lead about "regarded as one of the greatest screen actresses of all time" and "became a cult figure". But it needs to be included with context and in the appropriate location in the article to maintain an encyclopedic approach. Dreamyshade (talk) 00:59, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whether to include praise quotes