Talk:Starchitect

message: Star status would seem to be relative. As this is "English Wikipedia" should it be slanted towards the English-speaking viewpoint? In all my years of architecture I have never even heard of Antoine Predock - who seems to work exclusively within the USA. But this is not say that he is not a star architectect in his own state/country. What could give this whole - almost seedy, tabloid-press - topic a bit more substance? Perhaps 'globalization' - many, but not all, of the architects mentioned have many prestigious projects going on in several countries around the world. One might also attempt to "quantify" the matter by press coverage - how often they feature in the press, both professional and popular. --TTKK 15:42, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't live in the US but I am certainly aware of Antoine Predock and his work. He is building in Europe and Canada and his name has even been brought up in mainstream hollywood films... Intersection starring Richard Gere comes to mind. At regional levels, there are other categories of "starchitects"- for example, in Italy almost everyone knows who Paolo Portoghesi is. The same is true for Arthur Erickson in Canada and Glenn Murcutt in Australia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.183.217.31 (talk) 01:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the concept relative? 

message: There is no doubt starchitecture exists as a term, and the entry is right to point out that it is generally used pejoratively. But then the article goes on to assume that it has historical currency. Yes F.L. Wright was famous, but can we retroactively call him a “star architect?” Probably not a good idea. Anyway compared to Wright, the current stars are really well behaved! And can we really predict future star architects?  I don’t think Greg Lynn is a star architect. He is famous within the architectural community (and was once on time magazine -so what), but I doubt anyone – even educated people – have ever heard of him. The whole discussion is quite vague..There is a big difference between star architect, celebrity architect, famous arhitect, admired architect, innovative architect and so on…. Brosi 00:45, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Star here-star there? 

message: I object to the idea of 'yesterday" given that these people are still alive and practicing! once again can one impose a current word retractively. Venturi is not yesterday's star architect. He is a star archiect of today, I would think, and certainly Eisenman too.Brosi 19:25, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yesterday's star architects? 

message: Some architects listed, such as Cynthia Davidson, Greg Lynn, and Jeff Kipnis, are known only to an elite and cannot really be considered for mainstream recognition. As a result, I don't think they or some others mentioned qualify for this dubious status. This is a silly, overblown article to begin with (so I'm reluctant to add fuel...), but what do others think? 66.183.217.31 01:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am with you. I think a lot about this article is bizarre, not to mention retroactive 'star' architects. etc. But someone has a pipe to smoke about this and I guess so be it.Brosi 22:43, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Starchitect=mainstream recognition 

message: Wikipedia would be better without this article.
Nobody needs word creations like starchitect. And even if there are persons who like an article about this, they would not like to read a unqualified text of a stylish thinking american college student. --88.72.223.174 09:43, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: unnecessary stuff

message: -first off i agree with brosi on questioning the "yesterdays starchitects" they are still big names and successful, particularly stern and meier. as for the up and coming starchitects, lets leave this for time to decide, we will all know who they are when it is their time. plus if there is any list here it should be the dominant starchitects of now
-the contemporary starchitects for this list should be quite obvious... gehry, koolhaas, hadid, holl, piano, foster, calatrava to name the practically undisputable ones, there are at least another 8-10 that i think most would agree on like libeskind, rogers, herzog/demeuron, ando, moneo, nouvel, alsop, etc.
as for the dead starchitects list, can we just drop this list? sure its all subjective but these were just famous architects not starchitects.
-starchitecture all has to do with contemporary celebrity culture and who can be the most outragous and make the biggest splash. theres also something about being an "elite" group that competes against each other for the same international commissions/awards/prizes and whom are promoted/praised by a handful of powerful newspaper architecture critics. -- Pdxstreetcar 00:32, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: wow this whole article needs to be rethought

message: Someone has twice removed John Portman from the list of former stars. Rather than re-revert, throwing it open for discussion. With reference to the edit summary when he was re-removed, IMO "starchitect" has at least as much to do with reputation as with actual influence. Yngvadottir (talk) 23:23, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Portman