Talk:Ananda Mahidol

message: per Wikipedia´s rules on naming monarchs, this needs to be changed  Antares911 11:23, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see the result of the discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (Thailand-related articles)#Article names for Thai royals/Thai with honorary titles first. andy 11:49, 21 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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message: I moved the following external link to the Thai Wikipedia as it is entirely written in Thai and would be better served in that language.  It is nice that it has a lot of photographs but without the ability to read the captions of the photos they have no context.
*Debsirin History Project: Thai language site; lots of photographs though
Epolk 19:35, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed Thai language link 

message: I posted the following message to the Talk page of the anonymous person who has been editing this article. I have had no reply.
I note the edits you are making to this article, in which you say that Stevenson's book is an unreliable source. I make the following points:
*Stevenson's book is the only recent account of the king's death in English. We therefore have to rely on it unless we have a better source.
*You have not in fact challenged any of the points in Stevenson's account, just added comments to the effect that you don't believe them. 
*If you think Stevenson's account is wrong, you should say where it is wrong, and why you think this, and cite other sources if you have them.
*You are an anonymous user who has a record of vandalism. Why should I take your word over the word of a published author who is a personal friend of the King of Thailand?
*I am currently in Luang Prabang and don't have access to my books, so I won't revert your edits now. But I will do so when I get home unless you can show why the current article should be changed.
Unless the anon editor has some answers to these points, I will revert his edits.
Adam 15:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Anon edits

message: In the Mysterious Death topic, the name Bhumibol is replaced by Bhumipol in many places. Should they be edited? CW32 14:24, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bhumipol ? 

message: This section seems to do nothing but rehash the contents of a particular book and attempt to smear the name of Pridi Banomyong. There are a number of theories about the death, but there is no evidence that actually connects Pridi Banomyong with his death. There were just rumours spread after the king's death to smear Pridi's name. The more likely cause of the king's death is not something that people want to publish, but documentary evidence implying who was responsible for the death does exist. --Davidreid 04:04, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mysterious death 

message: Many books have been written in Thai concerning the death of King Ananda.  Very few of them are available online, and most of them are out of print.  None of the them, to my knowledge, have been completely translated into English, and none of them are directly used as references in the article.  I've translated the titles and author names and included online versions when available.
* กรณีสวรรคต 6 มิถุนายน 2489 (สรรใจ แสงวิเชียร, วิมลพรรณ ปีตธวัชชัย) (http://anandamahidol.bravehost.com/) "The Case of the Royal Death, 6 June B.E. 2489" (Sanchai Saengwichian and Wimonphan Pitathawatchai)
* คำพิพากษาศาลอาญาคดีประทุษฐ์ร้ายต่อพระบาทสมเด็จพระเจ้าอยู่หัว รัชกาลที่ 8 (ตีพิมพ์ 2517) "The Criminal Court Ruling on the Case of the Harming of the 8th King"
* คำพิพากษาศาลอุทธรณ์ ศาลฎีกา คดีประทุษฐ์ร้ายต่อพระบาทสมเด็จพระเจ้าอยู่หัวรัชกาลที่ 8 (ตีพิมพ์ 2517) "The Appeals Court and Supreme Court Rulings on the Case of the Harming of the 8th King"
* ความเห็นแย้ง (หลวงปริพนธ์พจนพิสุทธิ์) "Minority Ruling" (Luang Pariphonphotchanaphisut)
* บันทึกการสอบสวนกรณีสวรรคตรัชกาลที่ 8 (รวบรวมพิมพ์จากบันทึกการสอบสวนที่ตีพิมพ์ในหนังสือพิมพ์ข่าวโฆษณการ จัดพิมพ์เนื่องใน โอกาสฉลองครบรอบ 100 ปี ชาตกาล นายปรีดี พนมยงค์) "Investigative Records Regarding the Death of the 8th King" (Collected as part of the Pridi Bhanomyong Centenary)
* พระเจ้าอยู่หัวอานันทมหิดลของปวงชนชาวไทย (ไข่มุกด์ ชูโต) "King Ananda Mahidol and the Thai People" (Khaimook Chooto)
* โต้คุณไข่มุกด์ ชูโต กรณีสวรรคต (สุพจน์ ด่านตระกูล) "Disputing Khaimook Chooto" (Supot Dantrakoon)
* กระบวนการสร้างพยานเท็จอันเนื่องมาจากกรณีสวรรคตในหลวงอานันท์ฯ (สุพจน์ ด่านตระกูล) "The Process of Creating False Witnesses Due to the Death of King Ananda" (Supot Dantrakoon)
* ข้อเท็จจริงเกี่ยวกับ ท่านปรีดีฯ และกรณีสวรรคต (สุพจน์ ด่านตระกูล) (http://www.geocities.com/pbanomyong/articles_th/sarakadee09.html) "The Truth Regarding Pridi and the Royal Death" (Supot Dantrakoon)
* ในหลวงอานันท์กับคดีลอบปลงพระชนม์ (ชาลี เอี่ยมกระสินธุ์) "King Ananda and the Assassination Case" (Chalee Iamkrasin)
* ในหลวงอานันทฯ กับปรีดี (ดำริห์ ปัทมะศิร) "King Ananda and Pridi" (Damri Pathamasiri)
* กงจักรปีศาจ (ร.อ.ชลิต ชัยสิทธิเวช ร.น. แปลจาก The Devil's Discus by Rayne Kruger)
The following books in English also investigate the death of King Ananda.  
* The Devil's Discus (Rayne Kruger) - banned in Thailand.  Used copies are extremely rare.
* The Revolutionary King (William Stevenson) - banned in Thailand.  
* Forty Years of Murder (Keith Simpson)
* The King Never Smiles (Paul M Handley) - provides a good objective overview of theories, including obscure ones.
-- Patiwat 23:51, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some references on the death of King Ananda 

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message: There are three oblique contributions above which imply that a belief exists that the King murdered his brother. There is no reference to this in the article. I know to say this would be a serious crime in Thailand, but surely there is someone somewhere in the world (outside Thai jurisdiction) who has some information on this that can be at least openly discussed on the talk page (or ideally, if there are citations, included in the article). Equally, nothing can be said which is libellous. But saying that an allegation exists (if it does) should not be libellous.  If it is true that the King visited him just before the shot was heard, this is something that needs to be explored regardless of Thai sensibilities DeCausa (talk) 11:25, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Handley's formulation is, "Ananda shot himself or was killed by Bhumibol." But even under the suicide theory, Bhumibol knew the truth, but blamed Pridi and allowed three innocent servants to be executed. In any case, Simpson's account seems to rule out the possibility that Ananda could have shot himself, either by accident or by suicide. The Thai doctors are said to have concurred with this opinion, although it would be more satisfying if their actual testimony was available. Ananda was asleep and someone came into the room, shot him in the forehead at close range, and then put a gun in his hand. That's the only explanation consistent with the medical evidence, but no published writer draws the obvious conclusion. Kauffner (talk) 03:59, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Was Ananda murdered by Bhumibol?

message: From the article: "During the war, many members of the Thai Government, including the Ambassadorial staff in Japan acted as 'de-facto' spies on the side of the Allies, funneling secret information to the OAS."
What is the OAS? I went to the disambiguation page and there is nothing this sentence could be referring to. Perhaps it should be OSS? The whole section of the article this sentence is in is unsourced anyway. Tad Lincoln (talk) 19:15, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  OAS? 

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message: I feel it would be interesting to know whether an historian /author has drawn a comparison between the events in the Thai and the Spanish monarchy... --Terminally uncool (talk) 07:26, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
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message: When looking at this article on an Android device, the article starts with one font, then drops to a smaller font after the heading for "Early Life." It continues in that smaller font until the section titled "Death," where it returns to the original size. Then the first couple of paragraphs of the next section, "Events of June..." are in the smaller font size until the word "juice" where it again returns to the original size  font. There may be more places where it does this.
I looked at the section in edit mode and did not see any codes for font size. In addition, the font change does not appear on the Android device when the view is changed to desktop mode (by deleting the "m" from the URL). I didn't make any changes. Ileanadu (talk) 13:49, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
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message: How does the <ref> (at "==Reign==" and at "Thai people" in  the "Post-war" paragraph) to Thai banknotes support the text they are connected to? FredTC (talk) 13:28, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It does not. The ref was originally added to support a sentence about the king being depicted on the 20-baht note, but the sentence was removed as irrelevant, and the citation left there out of context. --Paul_012 (talk) 14:14, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thai banknotes?