Talk:Bob Windle

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message: :GA review (see here for criteria)
#It is reasonably well written.
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#:::Fixed.
#It is factually accurate and verifiable.
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#:::Yeah, it was. I reprinted the page again directly after it for you. If anything looks weird, just whack  wherever you want and I'll put a page label next to it. I'm not afraid of having footnotes all over the place.
#It is broad in its coverage.
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#It follows the neutral point of view policy.
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#:::Well I elaborated in the next sentence, but I moved it into the same sentence to have it more factual in closer proximity - he tried to take it easy in the heats to save energy for the final, but he saved too much energy and was eliminated in the heats - his heat swim was 4s slower than his PB. Blnguyen  (vote in the photo straw poll) 08:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the image is the main thing missing with most sportspeople who have retired so we can't take photos as spectators, and are too young to have expired from the public domain. In Australia, he would need to have been photographed before 1955, but we only have pictures of him after that. Under FU policy, they can't be used unless it shows something hard to fathom, and the picture is just a portrait of him, rather than a historic moment. This is similar to a longer explanation I gave at Talk:Quietly Confident Quartet. Do feel free to whack in any more dodgy sentences you want clarified. Blnguyen  (vote in the photo straw poll) 08:17, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: For the most part, the writing is now pretty good. As for the citation necessary tags, everything that I can tell is sourced and accurite, and the NPOV issueshave been smoothed out. The only problem now is the image. That really is hard to get an image when the circumstances are similar to this, so I don't know at all where an image would be found (if it can, at all). However, I have found some images on Flickr, although I don't know the copyright status. Again, everything else is pretty good, so it would be a shame is this article fails just because of the image. I will let you know if I can find anything. Juliancolton The storm still blows... 13:04, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is an image, but again, I don't know the copyright status. Juliancolton The storm still blows... 13:22, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, teh pohtographer has tagged it "all rights reserved". Blnguyen  (vote in the photo straw poll) 07:11, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

text: You can use a copyrighted image of him during his career because it is irreplaceable, illustrates the topic best, and can be added under the fair use guidelines provided a lengthy reason is given.  You could only use one of these type of pictures.  See Wikipedia:Non-free content.User:calbear22 (talk) 19:44, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I did do that to a few pictures of Ian Thorpe swimming and jumping up and down in an unusual manner, except when it was on the front page as the FA, quite a few people, including the main Fair Use admins, deleted all of them and it sparked a lot of criticism for being the worst FA of time and a PR disaster etc, so I'd rather stay on teh conservative side. The fiar use gurus said that "a picture of him doing freestyle isn't anything hard to fathom" etc, whereas if it was an unusual looking event that was hard to visualise - they did allow the pic of Thorpe falling over into the pool. Blnguyen  (vote in the photo straw poll) 07:11, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry they gave you a hard time.  Thorpe is different though because you used multiple pictures and he had only just retired.  With Windle, he retired a long time ago.  Getting a picture of him now just wouldn't do the article justice.  The picture situation on Wikipedia can be so difficult.User:calbear22 (talk) 08:31, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Yes I did use multiple pics, but Ed2gs kept the falling over pic because he thought it was the only one that was "hard to visualise". With the other ones, he just went, there is nothing here that is unusual, and citing the rule about not having FU simply for having a mugshot of a BLP per the replaceable fair use policy on BLP - WP:NFCC. The only pics in the book and on Flickr are the mugshot unfortunately. Blnguyen  (vote in the photo straw poll) 08:52, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is actually no pciture of him swimming in that book. Blnguyen  (vote in the photo straw poll) 08:57, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

text: GA review (see here for criteria)
#It is reasonably well written.
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#It is factually accurate and verifiable.
#:a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 
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#It is broad in its coverage.
#:a (major aspects):  b (focused): 
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#It follows the neutral point of view policy.
#:Fair representation without bias: 
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#It is stable.
#:No edit wars etc.: 
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#It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
#:a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 
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They only issue is the lack of images, but because none can be found, it is good enough to pass. Juliancolton The storm still blows... 19:56, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
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