Talk:Disappearance of Etan Patz

message: I have corrected a number of factual mistakes in this entry about the disappearance of my son, Etan. In addition, I spoke with investigators and then deleted some lurid speculation concerning his death. 162.84.234.3 00:54, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The introduction refers to kidnapped.  There may be reason to believe he was killed - lurid speculation says cannibalised as well - but the article should stick to the known facts.  He may not have been kidknapped. The only known fact is that he was, and remains, missing.  No one knows what happened - apart from those responsible (if another person was responsible), and Etan (if he is still alvie).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 01:15, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I made two edits, earlier. Both were relatively minor, and involved how "The New York Times" is displayed. I fixed it so that these words on this page will now lead you to the wikipedia article for the New York Times. EnglishHornDude (talk) EnglishHornDude  —Preceding undated comment added 02:37, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrections 

message: I took out the following:
"The fact the the New York prosecutor alone would allow another innocent victim to not be prosecuted, shows a side of the prosecutor out to make a name. Is Patz more important than the other child he wouldn't have prosecuted if Ramos had admitted the Patz crime. 
Also it should be noted Ramos was only 90% sure the boy he was with was Patz. And that was long after the crime first happened."'''
The first sentence seems to me like unverifiable speculation re: the prosecutor's motives; I can't even decipher the meaning of the second sentence; and the third is unverifiable.
I apologize if I've stepped on anyone's toes or committed any other wiki-offenses; this is my first edit under this account and approximately my third or fourth overall edit. I'm still learning.
Gladys j cortez 02:29, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed speculation

message: Someone incorrectly stated that Jose Ramos had already served his sentence, but was still being held since he had not completed rehabilitation counseling. In fact, he is still serving time on his sentence which runs to November 7th, 2012.
Stanley K. Patz  Dec 15, 2009  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.161.116.173 (talk) 02:19, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ramos release date 

message: I do not know, nor do I care, who insists on keeping that NAMBLA reference in the "Suspect" section. I have removed it and it should stay removed. If you can weave in a brief narrative of other suspects, then the NAMBLA reference may be rewritten and included.
That stupid sentence sounds like a solid defense for NAMBLA. As someone else posted here, NAMBLA is a controversial and much-hated group of distasteful people.
The question of defaming any suspect in custody is stupid and insulting.75.21.149.143 (talk) 15:28, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Why is a "brief narrative of other suspects" necessary for inclusion of the nambla item? The nambla item passes WP:V and WP:RS and should be included. Do you have a policy which supports exclusion? – Lionel (talk) 09:53, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "NAMBLA suspect" is gone ... for now! 

message: It actually says | known_for    = Kidnap victim, Pedophilia. According to grammar rules, this is written as though Patz is a pedophile AND a kidnap victim rather than a kidnapped victim by a pedophile. MagnoliaSouth (talk) 23:10, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that's unsourced garbage. I actually think "kidnap victim" is a stretch as well...should probably read "disappearance" or something of that sort.--Chimino (talk) 09:16, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don't you think that the infobox needs fixing? 

message: Can we once and for all decide if Etan should be described as a "kidnapped" child in the lede?  I see in some of the talk contents above (and in reviewing the article) that since the child had disappeared, there is a bit of speculation over if this is a definitive fact or not.  Please advise.  38.109.88.201 (talk) 03:02, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: All mentions of kidnapping were unsourced, so I removed them. I'm surprised this article hasn't been more tightly vetted given the subject's high profile. Thanks for bringing it up! Evanh2008 (talk) (contribs) 03:21, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for doing the legwork! 38.109.88.201 (talk) 19:38, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Kidnap" ? 

message: Depending on how recent developments progress, we may soon be moving this page to Murder of Etan Patz. Just a heads-up. Evanh2008 (talk) (contribs) 03:42, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if it's established that he was murdered, the event would still be better known for the disappearance than the murder, so I would argue against such a move. It should go through the WP:RM process. Theoldsparkle (talk) 14:12, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably true. When the time comes, someone should RM it. Evanh2008 (talk|contribs) 23:02, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future move 

message: * http://www.wnyc.org/story/nypd-says-its-closed-case-etan-patz-fbi-continues-investigation/
* http://www.propublica.org/article/are-you-etan-patz
--Jeremyb (talk) 04:31, 8 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  new sources Feb 2014 

message: "Etan Patz's parents, Stanley and Julie Patz, pursued a civil case against Ramos.[10] They were awarded a 'symbolic' sum of $2 million, which they have never collected.[11] Ramos served a 20-year prison term in the State Correctional Institution – Dallas in Pennsylvania for child molestation.[6]"
Just for my own interest, but what will happen to this compensation verdict, if Hernandez will be found guilty for murdering Etan?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.197.25.137 (talk) 16:37, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  compensation verdict 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: To whom it may concern,
I would like to work with somebody concerning rewriting parts of the page, Disappearance of Etan Patz. I see that the article has been amended recently because it is up to date on the jury verdict and the postponed sentencing. I would like to engage whoever made those changes.
For the most part, the overall story is accurate. But there are many details that should be corrected: the bus stop was at W. B'wy and Prince, not W.B'wy and Spring; hundreds of leads came in daily during the first weeks, not "few leads"; SH was never our "babysitter"; many things about Jose Ramos are written here as facts but are only allegations, etc.
[redacted]. My offer to work with somebody is limited to the Wikipedia page and is not for any other publication, periodical, newspaper, etc.
FWIW, I believe the headline should remain as "Disappearance" because that was the enduring mystery for 33 years.
74.64.32.183 (talk) 22:50, 2 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Marking as partially implemented. jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 03:41, 11 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requesting help editing the article on my son, Etan Patz 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: There is no source for the assertion "First child on a milk carton" and the article reflected that, so I have updated the infobox to match. Per WP:OTD tomorrow. 2600:8800:1880:91E:5604:A6FF:FE38:4B26 (talk) 04:14, 24 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "First child on a milk carton" 

message: As Hernandez has been convicted of Patz’s murder, the title should be renamed to Murder of Etan Patz. TheXuitts (talk) 08:28, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been discussed above at #Requested move 15 February 2017. - Station1 (talk) 20:29, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename to Murder of Etan Patz