Talk:Great Seal of California

message: A better translation is "I have found it." 1st singular, not 1st plural. It is what Archimedes allegedly exclaimed when he was ruminating in his bathtub and came up with the (2nd?) law of fluid dynamics. --Fulminouscherub 03:32, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eureka 

message: I made a few small edits here and there, including a spelling correction, but after checking the link to the source of the 1849 description, I see the spelling error was left in intentionally as a matter of historical record.  However, this Wiki article does not mention this intention as the source page does.  I am more inclined to correct spelling, but if others prefer the original misspelled version, how about a disclaimer as the source has, or at least a "sic" in the text?  --TouchGnome 03:29, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  1849 description 

message: On May 28, 2002, two additional bronze seals were dedicated alongside the Great Seal of California at the western entrance of the state Capitol. These seals were created to celebrate the past and current contributions of Native Americans and Latinos, as well as recognize the sovereignty of these groups at various points in California's history. This article should be expanded to include these commemorative seals as they were intended to reflect the state's diversity and diverse future. Without objection, I would be glad to draft a section for these seals. Hecman111 05:07, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commemorative Seals 

message: Can someone make an internal link if it is described somewhere already?
Thanks. --Mongol (talk) 21:46, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: After the initial 13 colonies, many of the states that joined the Union existed first as a Territory of the United States before being annexed, a probationary period, if you will.  California never went through such territorial status. — QuicksilverT @ 22:22, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does "the probation of a Territory" mean? 

message: I read this article with amusement, particularly concerning the many interpretations of the Great Seal over time and the many versions currently in existence.  Yet, nowhere in the article was I able to find a link to a California statute that fixes the design of the seal in an unambiguous manner, so I added the "Legal definition" section.  The code references a graphic that appears in the hard-copy printed version, which I haven't seen.  In view of the myriad variations of the Seal in existence, the incorrect Wikipedia version is probably as good or bad as any other, but for accuracy, a photo or scan from one of the printed copies of the Government Code should be obtained and uploaded to Wikimedia Commons.  I suppose it would be too much to ask, and incredibly lucky, to get a digital copy of the photo that was used in 1943 when the statute was codified.  If the hard copy could be eyeballed by some Wikipedian, perhaps in one of the public County Law Libraries in California, it's just possible that a usable digital image from the hard-copy is already floating around on the Web.As an aside, with the advances in computer technology, a graphic design could now be expressed as unambiguous printable script or code, such as Scalable Vector Graphics or PostScript, and the block of code could be included in the statute as an appendix, thus making further interpretation unnecessary.Relevant links:
* http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=gov&group=00001-01000&file=399-405
* http://www.leginfo.ca.gov/cgi-bin/displaycode?section=gov&group=00001-01000&file=420-429.8
* The Color Association of the United States
* http://www.colorassociation.com/
 — QuicksilverT @ 03:30, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legal definition 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion 

message: Recently there have been contributions which have sought to revert the SVG file for the state seal of California, perhaps out of a personal desire for its aesthetic and complicated design appeal, to a PNG file. As standard bearer, SVG files remain prominent as they do not take up much space when loading articles, and also serve as a professionalized simplification. The detailed PNG file is already listed within the article, and therefore replacing the SVG for the PNG (an alternative illustration, regardless) to the state seal is redundant. Also, the replacing of the SVG file for a PNG on other articles does not have any sound explanation. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 00:58, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It would appear another contributor previously updated this by replacing to the PNG stating it was an update, however there is no reliable source stating the state seal was updated. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 01:00, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm in a heraldic community that is behind this. They think that since the PNG looks nicer from an artistic perspective and is more faithful to official renderings, it should be there instead of the SVG, and seem convinced that the best way of dealing with Wikipedia policy is just editing the page. One member even made a better SVG version, but they've had trouble uploading it so far. I've tried to tell them to take their concerns to the proper channel, but to no avail (tbf, I was in a sour mood). - Novov T   C 10:20, 1 February 2021 (UTC)

text: , perhaps this may the reason why (5 reasons you should be using svgs over pngs)? Overly complex SVG files may mess themselves up entirely, it would seem. - TheLionHasSeen (talk) 05:45, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverting to the PNG file already listed