Talk:Ruff (bird)

message: The entry on Ruffs seems complete. It fits the entire format under the WikiProject Birds description and has plenty of pictures. The behavior section of the article is thorough and mentions the 3 alternative mating strategies as well as how it is genetically related. A picture of the third type of male that mimics females is missing and would add to the article. The article could mention frequency dependent advantages for each mating strategy. The writing is neutral, clear, and well referenced. There are no words that introduce bias and the words are precise with no clichés. However, according to peer reviewer, two of the links on the page are no longer working. Looking at the Talk page, the Ruff has had a good amount of thought put into it. One individual reviewed the article for quality and put considerable time into pointing out how to improve the article as well as rated the article as good quality. All of the suggestions that the reviewer made have been corrected. The article used to be a featured article so it is considered one of the best articles on Wikipedia. The history shows a lot of small changes, except for some very large deletions and reversions that seem to be due to vandalism. Zhangt2413 (talk) 19:46, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  My evaluation of this article for Bio372 

message: *...is a medium-sized wader which breeds on marshes and wet meadows in northern Europe and Russia. - sounds odd as one is a continent (or part thereof) and one a country, but I concede I can't think of a better way to write it (N Europe and NW Asia???). Casliber (talk · contribs) 10:05, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: *North Eurasia? Sabine's Sunbird  talk 11:06, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed to northern Eurasia, thanks jimfbleak (talk) 14:38, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some gratuitous feedback.... 

message: *Discussion below originally started on my talk page and continued here: Snowman (talk) 22:39, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there is a GA review in progress, your edits are actually likely to cause confusion. If you think improvements are necessary or desirable, please add comments on the GA review page, which you can access via the article's Talk page. Jim (editor) and I (reviewer) have put a lot of work into this, and I do not intend to recheck the entire article because of undiscussed edits in the middle of the review. --Philcha (talk) 19:35, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I had noticed User Jimfbleak's message on the Bird talk page, and I decided to help out. Snowman (talk) 22:31, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I am aware only major or controversial changes to an article necessitate prior discussion on the talk page. I find that these sort of uncontroversial edits are generally welcome during GA and FA reviews. Snowman (talk) 08:34, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

text: I would not call it original research as the calorific values of various metabolised substances are very well studied indeed. Anyway, I see it as "common knowledge" that was not in an inline ref, so I have opted to revert the edit of mine that you refer to. Snowman (talk) 22:28, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  General comments 

message: The German link for some reason does not lead me to the article page, but to . I attempted fixing that even by inserting de:Kampfl%C3%A4ufer, but to no avail, it still remains the wrong target. Can anyone fix that? G Purevdorj (talk) 09:00, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: On a related note: it might be worth noting the French (Combattant varié) and German (Kampfläufer) names for the bird remain linked to combat. Not essential for the article, but interesting nonetheless. Sillyfolkboy (talk) (edits)Join WikiProject Athletics! 12:34, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The German link is working fine for me, so I'm not sure what the problem is/was. MeegsC | Talk 00:17, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I dunno whether action has been taken, but it works now (I'm using the same computer as before). G Purevdorj (talk) 16:16, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Link to German Kampfläufer

message: I can hardly believe that this article made it to the front page without the word "bird" being mentioned anywhere in the first paragraph! Neither "wader" or "sandpiper" indicate what the thing actually is. A wading, piping what? I've got a mate called Dunc who both wades (jogs along the beach, actually) and blows the pipes, but he doesn't usually do them both at the same time. Amandajm (talk) 12:36, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks for the correction, although the photo gives a bit of a clue (: Jimfbleak -  talk to me? 13:05, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: FA?

message: If the bird gets it's name from the article of clothing, then shouldn't that article be called "Ruff" and this one be "Ruff(bird)"206.123.191.246 (talk) 22:40, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: To quote myself from a few paragraphs up "Given that the ruff as an item of clothing hasn't really been fashionable since the Stuarts, the primary usage for the last 300 years has been the bird". Sabine's Sunbird  talk 23:40, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The Egyptian polymath Imhotep hasn't been fashionable since the third century BCE, but Imhotep doesn't direct readers to Imhotep (musician). I would suggest that more people are more familiar with the item of clothing than the bird, therefore there should be a disambiguation page at least. PICURMN (talk) 02:38, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: , there is a disambiguation page. It's linked right at the top of the article! MeegsC (talk) 02:49, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: The BOU, at least, now has this as a member of the genus Calidris, see the 2013 BOU British List.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.158.6.243 (talk) 14:20, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In the interests of consistency, the Bird project adopted the IOC list as a standard, rather than decide between differing regional decisions/latest research, so, for the time being at least, we stick with Philomachus pugnax Jimfbleak -  talk to me? 17:40, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Scientific name

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