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Talk:Ragged Mountain (Connecticut)/Archive 1

message: There has been some concern about using my personal website, Connecticut Explorer’s Guide, as a reference source for the geographic related articles I have been writing about here in Wikipedia. 
Issue 1. No Original Research Policy
 I believe that I am in the clear as far as the No Original Research Policy goes. Even though I had mapped these routes out myself and took the measurements with a GPS (which would constitute Original Research), because I had published the results the matter should fall into Citing Self.
"If an editor has published the results of their research in a reliable publication, they may cite that source while writing in the third person and complying with our NPOV policy."
I would argue that Connecticut Explorer's Guide (www.ctxguide.com) is a reliable publication with accurate recreational maps. It operates with an extended user’s agreement from the National Geographic Society.  The UCONN magic library has indexed Connecticut Explorer's Guide under Digital Geodata at http://arcserver.lib.uconn.edu/reference/weblinks.html further endorsing it’s accuarte maps.  CTXGuide is also indexed with Mapathon, Slackpacker, and PeaktoPeak.
Issue 2. Self-Published Sources
This issue has also been covered.  The official policy is stated below.
“Self-published and questionable sources in articles about themselves
Material from self-published and questionable sources may be used as sources in articles about themselves, so long as:
·	it is relevant to their notability; 
·	it is not contentious; 
·	it is not unduly self-serving; 
·	it does not involve claims about third parties; 
·	it does not involve claims about events not directly related to the subject; 
·	there is no reasonable doubt as to who wrote it. “
The articles written here in Wikipedia are relevant, non-contentious, not self-serving, not critical of third parties, and originally written by me.  This would clear these wiki-articles of the Self-Published rule.  Furthermore, the links to Connecticut Explorer’s Guide under References is for further research or to check accuracy and not a mandate to click the link.
Issue 3. Citing Source
It has been suggested the content of the maps in Connecticut Explorer’s Guide had been derived from an originating source.  Even though research had been done utilizing text sources (books) in order to find these locations, there are no forms of like media (maps) used as original sources.  These maps are original sources created by GPS and exploring these areas in person and are within the bounds of copyright laws.
:You have misunderstood the policies you quote above. Elipongo is giving you good advice: take it to heart.--SarekOfVulcan 17:02, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
Talk:Mount Hope River

message: I am writing to appeal the accusations of breaking the Self-Published Sources policy, specifically the middle paragraph in bold, regarding the articles with Connecticut Explorer’s Guide listed as a reference.
	Even though Connecticut Explorer’s Guide is a commercial website, it is free and a comprehensive outdoor recreation resource.  About half of it’s content are links to difficult-to-find recreation maps.  The other half of the content are original map data created using GPS and interfaced with National Geographic TOPO! map software (an extended user’s agreement with the National Geographic Society).  These TOPO! maps were scanned versions of the USGS topographic maps and should be considered valid as a cited source.  Even though the overlayed map data created using a GPS is a Self-Published Source, the remainder of the maps are unarguabley accurate.  Even though the GPS data may have small errors resulting from technical limitations, the data should be considered as reliable and as accurate as reasonabley possible.  These map pages have been linked from Wikipedia content as references by the author of both Connecticut Explorer’s Guide and the Wikipedia content.  The geographic descriptions of the subject area is mostly derived from the USGS-sourced TOPO! maps used on the pages of Connecticut Explorer’s Guide.  The Wikipedia content descriptions of the overlayed map data are mere mentions of existing recreational opportunities of that geographic area and not reliant on a 100% accurate map.  Connecticut Explorer’s Guide has been used as  a reference in good faith in order to increase Wikipedia’s content about these Connecticut locations.  
Additionally, Connecticut Explorer’s Guide has been indexed as a Digital Geodata resource on UCONN’s Magic Library website.  This should help to validate Connecticut Explorer’s Guide as a valid resource.
Self-published sources (online and paper)
 Policy shortcut:WP:V#SELFWP:SPS
Anyone can create a website or pay to have a book published, then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published books, personal websites, and blogs are largely not acceptable as sources.[4]
Self-published material may, in some circumstances, be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications. However, caution should be exercised when using such sources: if the information in question is really worth reporting, someone else is likely to have done so.
Self-published sources should never be used as third-party sources about living persons, even if the author is a well-known professional researcher or writer; see WP:BLP.
:You have misunderstood the policies you quote above. Elipongo is giving you good advice: take it to heart.--SarekOfVulcan 17:01, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
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Talk:Yantic River

message: I am writing to appeal the accusations of breaking the Self-Published Sources policy, specifically the middle paragraph in bold, regarding the articles with Connecticut Explorer’s Guide listed as a reference.
Even though Connecticut Explorer’s Guide is a commercial website, it is free and a comprehensive outdoor recreation resource.  About half of it’s content are links to difficult-to-find recreation maps.  The other half of the content are original map data created using GPS and interfaced with National Geographic TOPO! map software (an extended user’s agreement with the National Geographic Society).  These TOPO! maps were scanned versions of the USGS topographic maps and should be considered valid as a cited source.  Even though the overlayed map data created using a GPS is a Self-Published Source, the remainder of the maps are unarguabley accurate.  Even though the GPS data may have small errors resulting from technical limitations, the data should be considered as reliable and as accurate as reasonabley possible.  These map pages have been linked from Wikipedia content as references by the author of both Connecticut Explorer’s Guide and the Wikipedia content.  The geographic descriptions of the subject area is mostly derived from the USGS-sourced TOPO! maps used on the pages of Connecticut Explorer’s Guide.  The Wikipedia content descriptions of the overlayed map data are mere mentions of existing recreational opportunities of that geographic area and not reliant on a 100% accurate map.  Connecticut Explorer’s Guide has been used as  a reference in good faith in order to increase Wikipedia’s content about these Connecticut locations.  
Additionally, Connecticut Explorer’s Guide has been indexed as a Digital Geodata resource on UCONN’s Magic Library website.  This should help to validate Connecticut Explorer’s Guide as a valid resource.
Self-published sources (online and paper) Policy shortcut:WP:V#SELFWP:SPS
Anyone can create a website or pay to have a book published, then claim to be an expert in a certain field. For that reason, self-published books, personal websites, and blogs are largely not acceptable as sources.[4]
Self-published material may, in some circumstances, be acceptable when produced by an established expert on the topic of the article whose work in the relevant field has previously been published by reliable third-party publications. However, caution should be exercised when using such sources: if the information in question is really worth reporting, someone else is likely to have done so.
Self-published sources should never be used as third-party sources about living persons, even if the author is a well-known professional researcher or writer; see WP:BLP.
:You have misunderstood the policies you quote above. Elipongo is giving you good advice: take it to heart.--SarekOfVulcan 17:00, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments
Talk:Society for the Scientific Study of Sexuality

message: See my comment and details here:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:James_Cantor#2020_resignation_from_the_Society_for_the_Scientific_Study_of_Sexuality_(SSSS)
-> let us thus add Criticism here and link to Culture Wars or such. 
Am on mobile etc. so will not do so myself.
Zezen (talk) 18:15, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  2020 members resigning
Talk:That Summer (song)

message: I'm curious how old this widow is.  I always thought she was like 40-45... but he makes reference to skin going from leather to velvet.  When you compare skin to leather you're looking at someone more like 70's - 80's.... is the song about a 70 yr. old woman sleeping with a teenage boy?   GROSS!
-I really don't see how your personal stance on the grossness of it has any real effect on whether the tone of the article is appropriate (although yeah, I assumed she was middle-aged as well, but it sounds much older from the lyrics on closer inspection, which I too would find gross).  Either way, is there really any need to have this article marked as possibly being inappropriate?  Just seems like bureaucratic nonsense for it to be marked as such.
The TVTropes page used to reference the 'criticism' section no longer exists, so I have replaced it with a citation needed marker. 50.81.111.244 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 17:08, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Category talk:Propositional calculus

message: The mathematical logic folk aren't leaving much for anyone else? The calculus of sentences is taught in philosophy. Gregbard 12:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The way you set up things now :Category:Mathematical logic is no longer a supercategory of :Category:Sentential logic, which is insane. As the category page defines it: Sentential logic refers to the theory of well formed formulas in various logical systems that is an elementary part of mathematical logic. Maybe you disagree with this definition, but it is the definition according to which the articles have been categorized, so changing the position in the category "tree" causes things to become mis-categorized. Note that the page Sentential logic itself is a simple redirect to Propositional calculus. Differential calculus is taught to physics students; it still remains part of mathematical analysis. It is good that philosophy students also are taught some propositional calculus, but that does not remove the subject matter from the domain of mathematics.  --LambiamTalk 13:15, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: category

message: I think it's a more popular name from what I've seen. Pontiff Greg Bard (talk) 08:26, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically no, I am not ignoring it at all. I posted this proposal half a month ago. Then I implemented it. Everything else in the WP has been changed from sentential to propositional. Every text I see uses "propositional". There are obviously reasonable, and obviously unreasonable cases. To treat every case as if it were possibly controversial is brainless. This category will certainly be moved to go along with everything else, and everybody knows it (except for people who know practically nothing about this subject, such as you might find at in a catfd process). Lets work a little smarter. I do my part by being agreeable for the sake of the consensus. Be well, philogo. Pontiff Greg Bard (talk) 17:00, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

text: I suggest you disuss your proposals for logic categories at Wikipedia:WikiProject Logic  on its sub-page Standards for notation  talk page, as per discussion on the Categories for Discussion. --Philogo (talk) 13:53, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have proposed that any future changes to Logic categegories are discussed first  at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Logic--Philogo (talk) 23:49, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  I propose to move this category name to "propositional logic"
Talk:Box truck

message: I removed a photo from this article as it was not "a truck with a cube-shaped cargo area" as per the article's definition. Instead, it shows a Luton body. Maybe this is just a difference in UK/US terminology(?) but something needs to be clarified so that the photo is consistent with the definition.--Shantavira|feed me 12:55, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Photo removed

message: This isn't s British term? I am American and have never heard of the term 'box truck' in my life.'Step van' is the common usage.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CF99:2080:E405:E7D4:892:DF7A (talk) 21:48, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Box van definition in British English
Talk:Meridian (novel)

message: Overly long? It's only four lines!  SmokeyTheCat  •TALK• 12:57, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Long

message: The person who tagged this page must have thought it was self-evident: it was not. That person should have explained his reasoning here. The article does a fair job of describing the book and the author's purposes in writing it. The only bias displayed is the one displayed by the author, not the editor.
Tag removed.  — Myk Streja talk to me 11:49, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undue tag 

message: — Assignment last updated by KevinT99 (talk) 13:19, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Literature Across Cultures I Analysis
Talk:Yume Kira Dream Shoppe

message: Removed this section and I've pasted it below so it can be used when the author's article is created:
===Creator===
- Aqua Mizuto (水都 あくあ, Mizuto Akua) is from Nagoya City in Aichi Prefecture. Her works include the Milk Crown series, WANTE->D, Go! Baajinaru Hanayuki ("Go! Virginal Prostitute Story"), and Yume-Kira: Dream Shoppe. She likes Hello Kitty and her favourite colours are light green, pink, and blue.
Ninja neko 13:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creator section 

message: - Aqua Mizuto (水都 あくあ, Mizuto Akua) is from Nagoya City in Aichi Prefecture. Her works include the Milk Crown series, WANTE->D, Go! Baajinaru Hanayuki ("Go! Virginal Prostitute Story"), and Yume-Kira: Dream Shoppe. She likes Hello Kitty and her favourite colours are light green, pink, and blue.
Ninja neko 13:16, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Creator
Talk:Sarett oxidation

message: Is it Sarret or Sarett?
US patent 6.576.777 states Sarret while Wikipedia states Sarett.  Others name this same oxidation agent Collin's reagent. (even Wikipedia... you might want to link thses two pages together.)
~a patent examiner in Canada
Sarrett is correct. This isn't Collins's method exactly, insofar as the reagent is prepared in situ rather than prior to oxidation. This is a more effective way to prepare Collins reagent; thus, the compound is Collins reagent, but the method is the Sarrett oxidation. OrganicReactions (talk) 21:38, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  exact name
Talk:Improver Corp v Remington Consumer Product Ltd

message: It's my understanding that this set of questions has now been (largely?) superseded by the judgement given in the Kirin Amgen case. Should this page mention this and suggest that it relates to a legal test that is now of more 'historical' than practical interest82.211.95.178 13:19, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tried to do this, adding in a quote from Kirin-Amgen on the subject Tt225 (talk) 11:54, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Out of date?

message: This should be updated in light of Actavis v Eli Lilley  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2406:E006:2EB:9401:D9F2:1769:AA69:9C72 (talk) 11:25, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Actavis update
Talk:Jawor

message: I remember once reading that this town had a slightly different spelling of its name in Polish before WW2 (similar to the Czech "Javory"?). Does anyone know for sure? The PL version of this article doesn't mention it either. Podagrycznik (talk) 07:42, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Town name 
Talk:Ronald Lacey

message: He is resembled by contemporary actor Michael Cochrane.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.153.157 (talk) 11:08, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't see any resemblance. 2.31.164.66 (talk) 01:35, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Michael Cochrane 

message: How could have been born to Japanese parents and be of Welsh decent? Also IMDB lists him as an English citizen and actor. Removed ludicrous  statements.  J.Rly (talk) 02:44, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Life 

message: The main text and the infobox don't quite seem to agree upon the maternity of his children. 188.238.27.9 (talk) 16:54, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mothers of children
Talk:Sam Levene

message: What is  his exact birth place? 46.177.209.50 (talk) 17:53, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth place
Talk:List of Celtic F.C. players

message: Just wanted to point out that it looks like the above game - which was played at Hampden to decide the league title so obviously a major match - has not been included in the stats, i.e Alec McNair shows 583 league games and 640 in total (as per Fitbastats) but played in the playoff game. So it should definitely be 641 total, although I'm not sure the playoff should count for the league games as it was an 'add-on'. McMenemy and Hamilton scored in the game. Source for the lineup .
::PS I think the player articles should also be looked at in this regard, McNair's total in the summary is 640, obviously this should include the playoff and I also feel it should include the Glasgow Cup games, it's not fair to include Glasgow Cup on the all-time list as it became a bit of a joke but in his day it was quite a prestigeous competition (looking at the lists, you don't see the top players of that era being rested for the Glasgow Cup games very often), so in his own article I think it would be correct to include those matches in the totals. Either that or the text should be amended to say 'total of 641 games in major competitions' as the grand total would include the Glasgow Cup. I will be adding the Glasgow Cups to his honours list at some point today.Crowsus (talk) 10:35, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  1905 league playoff
Talk:Frank Curzon

message: Some tentative thoughts on the recent additions and reversions:
*Despite the lack of verifiable sources the recent additions look plausible in parts. Curzon's real surname was certainly Deeley, but The Times more than once gives his full real name as "Francis Arthur Deeley" - not William as Bwat added. Curzon cannot have changed his name by deed poll by the time of these cases or his "real" name would not have been given as Deeley in court. He may have legally changed his name later, of course.
*He was certainly married before, and instituted divorce proceedings in 1908. I cannot comment on the name of his first wife.
*It seems to me likely that the reference to Dublin is correct: in 1900 he placed the Strand Theatre at the disposal of the Dublin Fusiliers for a benefit performance, which is possibly suggestive of a Dublin connection.(The Times, 28 May 1900 p. 12) Tim riley (talk) 11:40, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real name and other details 

message: "The Epsom Derby", forsooth! It'll be "The London Times" next, I shouldn't wonder! (And yes I do know it's technically correct, but even so... Tim riley (talk) 22:30, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The original and genuine article 

message: Cronyn (as now amended by Bwat) is correct, according to The Times of 23/04/1909. Mea culpa. Tim riley (talk) 13:12, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cronin/Cronyn 

message: Sir Harry Mallaby-Deeley, 1st Baronet also had a father named William Clarke Deeley and mother née Mallaby. William Avery (talk) 20:26, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Report of a case concerning a gambling debt confirms .William Avery (talk) 23:58, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, he was F. Curzon's brother. The Times obit, 6  February 1937, p. 14, says so specifically. - Tim riley (talk) 08:15, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you. So it's not just OR. William Avery (talk) 15:23, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brother of Sir Harry Mallaby-Deeley?
Talk:Kamienna Góra

message: Bermicourt, I would ask that you refrain form edit warring. The new edit  was made on 08:40, 23 January 2022‎ and reverted per Wikipedia:BOLD, revert, discuss cycle. So, why are you restoring the reverted text, which by the way removed other long standing content in the process? Also, I don't see a need to highlight the method of transport, we can just as well include details of how slave laborers were moved to the camps and new Polish inhabitations brought in (obviously by train transports). --E-960 (talk) 16:31, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that's necessary, this is a town article, not a history article to go into side details, its sufficient to just mention the expulsions — WP:ONUS "verifiability does not guarantee inclusion". --E-960 (talk) 15:38, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverts
Talk:Ząbkowice Śląskie

message: This refers to the proagandistic claism of recovered lands and is NOT politically neutral. The Slavic settlement is so far back that 'once again' is just silly. It makes the false impression that the city was switching from PL to DE and back several times which is NOT the case. This could be said of maybe Danzig/Gdansk but not about places in Lower Silesia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tino Cannst (talk • contribs) 06:42, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  lack of political neutrality
Talk:Food & Water Watch

message: I'm surprised that there's no mention of Take Back the Tap, one of Food & Water Watch's larger campaigns, on here.  I would add some information on it myself, but as I am Food & Water Watch's office manager, I have a significant conflict of interest here.  Thus I'm refraining from making major edits to the article myself.  Can someone take the lead here?  I can help with some sourcing.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:42, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Take Back the Tap? 

message: I've added a citation for an article about FWW's complaint in US federal court regarding safety at the BP Atlantis oil platform in a "further reading" section.  In the interest of full disclosure, I work for Food & Water Watch, and so I'm leaving it at that, and strongly encouraging others to expand and update the article, hopefully using this citation.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 03:23, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  BP Atlantis lawsuit 

message: Disclosure: I'm an employee of Food & Water Watch.
This page was created some time ago and it's missing many of our most important recent campaigns, including Take Back the Tap as another user mentioned, as well as our campaign to ban fracking (with the successful ban in New York in 2014 which we contributed to significantly as a founding member of New Yorkers Against Fracking), our campaign for GMO labeling, and ED Wenonah Hauter's recent books, Foodopoly and Frackopoly. Assistance in getting this page updated would be terrific!
Josmiles (talk) 16:56, 1 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. User:Josmiles st170etalk 11:26, 16 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outdated information
Talk:Fähna

message: #REDIRECT Talk:Vääna
Hello!
This place is named Vääna, and has been named so for at least a century.
The old name, used by Baltic German landlords was also not Fähna but Faehna and is obviously nothing else, but bastardized version of Estonian name.
Wahur, straight from Vääna/Faehna  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.219.12.54 (talk) 21:39, 7 December 2007 (UTC)