Talk:Liu Yifei

message: Should Liu Yifei be referred to as "Chinese-born American" or "Chinese-American" in the lead? Abbyjjjj96 (talk) 15:03, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: RfC

message: I've seen on some sites that her name is Liu Ximeizi, and on others Liu Qianmeizi. Dispute? Lulu288 19:28, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Qian is the correct pronounciation. Thus the other sites which use Xi, are wrong. No dispute. Kiwi8 19:26, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  But the word technically has two pronunciations, qian and xi, so what source confirms Liu Yifei uses qian? Lulu288 13:48, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  In videos I've seen, the news reporters have called Liu Yifei "xixi", not "qianqian." Therefore, her name would actually be Liu Ximeizi. Lulu288 22:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Very interesting dispute. When I try to translate the Mandarin Chinese WP article with Google Translate, I too get "Liu Qian Mei Zi" with the qian. But it should be noted G.T. cannot "know" about which transliteration to use if a Chinese syllable or word has two pronunciations, as LuLu correctly noted. GT can't do but mere wild guesswork here. -andy 92.229.88.233 (talk) 00:45, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: Please cite the following before adding them back:
-- Ladida 06:19, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's very good, that this libelous crap was taken out. Whoever did that: a big thanks goes to you! 
1) This is biographies of living persons issue, which can easily be considered libel in no time! 
2) It should also be noted that her father is an university professor, so it's not too surprising that he has better relations and connections than the average person to get his daughter into Stanford. -andy 92.229.88.233 (talk) 00:52, 18 November 2009 (UTC)

text: The part about her entrance to Stanford, while brief or not, was never sourced. I believe this was vandalism or just a rumor. Also, having a parent (or both) working for universities does not guarantee automatic admission. The student can still not be good enough. I've experienced this with several classmates at a community college who tried private Southern Californian colleges, although not any top ones. 75.5.13.199 (talk) 10:08, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: *Even if this song's title is Japanese, did she sing this song first in Japanese or Chinese?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.75.3.84 (talk) 17:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mayonaka no Door

message: Name 刘茜美子 (Liu Ximeizi) almost disappear for years. Probably 刘亦菲 (Liu Yifei) is not only her stage name but also her legal name. Any reliable resource?Thyang1990 (talk) 19:05, 18 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I found three references which should be able to prove that Liu Yifei is now her Legal Name. First one is an approval from Ministry of Culture of the People's Republic of China. Second one is a donation receipt from China Children and Teenagers' Fund. Last one is a student list on Beijing Film Academy. All three use the name Liu Yifei, not Liu Ximeizi.Thyang1990 (talk) 19:31, 16 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Native Name (Legal Name) 

message: This section really feels like it was added in haste due to a recent social media post by Yifei that was done impulsively. Now, I definitely don't agree with her opinion on this issue, but I feel that it is irrelevant, and should, therefore, be removed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hazard Gamer (talk • contribs) 00:39, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It obviously isn't irrelevant, as it has been widely reported as significant in many reliable sources. For example, here mulan star sparks call for boycott with hong kong stance. The paragraph as it stands however looks slanted to present the actress's (craven, disgusting) pro Chinese regime comments  in the most positive light possible and needs balancing.  At the moment it looks to have been drafted in Beijing. 78.147.45.147 (talk) 00:08, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Political Views" section unnecessary and unneeded 

message: There is likely vandalism with a profanity and in the last sentence of the 'Early life' section. Edmond Wong (talk) 18:44, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Already removed.  –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 20:17, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 August 2019 

message: As the actress in involved in the harsh police force on Hong Kong protests approval, the movement https://twitter.com/hashtag/BoycottMulan?src=hashtag_click were starting.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.12.244.43 (talk) 13:07, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe, but we should consider WP:CSECTION.  talk 00:27, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding section Controversies 

message: This is a Chinese subject. Even if having the rights of a United States dual national, DMY is more appropriate, which had not been used for ANY Korean in both music and film industries, e.g. one of BlackPink’s members prior to indefinite semi. 
67.81.161.226 (talk) 01:12, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: This is an American subject per what is in article. American date formats are appropriate. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:52, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Though she has American citizenship (and may not have Chinese citizenship as a dual national), it appears like Liu Yifei currently lives and works in China. Most reports refer to her as a Chinese actress, not as an American one. Natg 19 (talk) 01:52, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Given that, WP:CONTEXTBIO, and indications she is a permanent resident of China and lives and does all her notable work there, it would be appropriate to describe her as a Chinese actress in the lead. Looking at her credits, I see nothing that shows anything done outside China. American citizenship does appear to be incidental and not important to her or people who document her activities. Only issue is most people expect nationality in intro sentence and "or permanent resident" part is less acknowledged. Should be well-documented in talk page if that change is made to the article.As for date formats it doesn't appear there is a standard of how to format dates for Chinese subjects so don't see a compelling reason to change from what is established. MOS:TIES applies only to ties to English-speaking nations, so China isn't covered by that. MOS:RETAIN does apply so would need consensus to change date format for this subject. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:19, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date Layout(s) 

message: I've seen the 2020 RFC that resulted in describing Liu Yifei as "Chinese-American". However, I disagree with this because it's like putting ethnicity MOS:CONTEXTBIO. Here are other examples that follow the guideline:
* Arnold Schwarzenegger: Austrian and American (listed as an example in the guideline)
* Angela Lansbury: British and American (originally Irish-British and American, then changed to British-American-Irish. I was the one who adopted the current nationality. Lansbury held Irish citizenship for later in her life, but omitted it after talk page discussion.)
* Olivia de Havilland: British and American (Yup. I was the one who changed that from British-American.)
* Olivia Newton-John: British and Australian (achieved after talk page consensus months after her death)
* Dua Lipa: English and Albanian (per talk page consensus in November 2022 after Lipa was granted Albanian citizenship)
* Matthew Perry: American and Canadian (I changed that after his death)
That is why I changed the lead section of Liu Yifei's article to "Chinese and American". It prevents the induction of ethnicity or birth, per the aforementioned guideline. Do you agree or disagree? ScarletViolet (talk • contribs) 02:47, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citizenship in lead (again!)