Talk:David Bull (television presenter)

message: I have a concern about the current page name, David Bull (doctor). 
Is it appropriate for "doctor" to be used as the disambiguation term for someone who does not even appear to be a fully qualified physician? While it's true that the subject is known as a 'television doctor' / author, I think use of that dab term here frames this politically relevant figure inappropriately, putting undue emphasis on his medical credentials by effectively claiming notability as a physician. 86.190.132.158 (talk) 07:45, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if it's what's you've been looking for, but we have MOS:HONORIFICS that is very general about avoiding using titles in prose.  On the other hand, it may sometimes be useful to tell the reader who someone is when citing their opinion, so the context matters.  Of course, in a BLP of a full professor, even if not using Dr. everywhere in the text, the first sentence will generally specify this.  I hope this helps, —PaleoNeonate – 09:46, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

text: Oh, since it's a title, my previous comment was out of scope: we have WP:NPOVTITLE, but sometimes to distinguish two articles we can add a descriptor.  —PaleoNeonate – 09:50, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

text: I think that David Richard Bull would be a more appropriate article name personally.  —PaleoNeonate – 09:53, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hum, how about WP:COMMONNAME. Personally, I'd suggest David Bull (television presenter) (or possibly David Bull (politician)). 86.190.132.158 (talk) 10:14, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I was also wondering about something like (television personality) too...  I probably should have answered at the talk page to keep the discussion centralized, do you mind if I move the thread except your invitation?  Also, if it's not contentious, we could boldly move and if reverted, we could start a formal move discussion...  —PaleoNeonate – 10:23, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

text: (messages moved here) —PaleoNeonate – 10:29, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  ...aha, I think WP:NCPDAB is the relevant general guideline. I also think I support boldly moving to "(television personality)", a dab term quite widely  used on wikipedia , or  "(television presenter)" ( though I don't think I could do that as an ip editor :). 86.190.132.158 (talk) 10:40, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Nice, let's wait for a third editor opinion until tomorrow perhaps, if noone objects or already moved the page then, I'll gladly do it.  Thanks, —PaleoNeonate – 10:54, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree (thanks PaleoNeonate!). 86.190.132.158 (talk) 11:50, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

text: Sorry, I probably should have checked this talk page before doing it! I think being an elected MEP trumps any previous notability, so "politician" would be the most suitable qualifier. Opera hat (talk) 19:51, 27 May 2019 (UTC)

text: Super, I also think that (polititian) is fine.  Thanks, —PaleoNeonate – 04:38, 28 May 2019 (UTC)

text: There are these links that also could be fixed to avoid the redirect, but there are many and it may be best to wait a little to make sure the new name sticks...  —PaleoNeonate – 04:40, 28 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doctor who?