Talk:Aşık Mahzuni Şerif

message: this man is Kurdish if anybody thinks he's Turkish provide evidence. the village of Bercenek in Kahramanmaraş province is entirely kurdish. Ozgur Gerilla 13:08, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you please provide links to your source because I have reason to believe he's Kurdish Ethnic origin other then that what culture he represents doesn't bother me at this stage. It is important to be clear what he is and what he represents. I'll also try to dig information out of his written work. It is important not to just classify him as Turkish and rep of the Turkish culture because there is millions of Kurds who cannot speak Kurdish due to Turkification. After this issue is cleared I think we need to improve the article more on his work as it is stub. Ozgur Gerilla 14:10, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  He's Kurdish 

message: : Kurdish? how on Earth is he Kurdish, does he sing in Kurdish? say he's Kurdish? ever mention that he's Kurdish?
He clearly states he is a proud Turk who loves Turkey and is from a Turkmen village, people of Kahramanmaras are patriots stop these lies please.
He is obviously not Turkish but more likely to be Kurdish.
No Turkish person will say "Ker hele hele" in his song, Ker is a Kurdish word meaning donkey.
Most good Alevi singers are Kurds. There is no need to go pro-nationalistic in topic topic like you all do in every topic related to Kurds! Enough is enough fascists!
just because he uses a "kurdish" word makes him kurdish. wow i am convinced.
he is turkish, look at his family, they are all turkish. give me a brake.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.192.205.214 (talk) 23:28, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  He is a proud TURKMEN 

message: Here is a summary of my last edit:
*Some cleanup made.
*Biased POVs replaced with cited facts.
*Birth and death dates are fixed.
*Poor grammar fixed.
*Places that required citation are marked, which will be removed if citations fail to be provided.
What it stil needs:
*More information about his life and work.
Kertenkelebek(talk) 11:57, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You better stop the insulting. He's from Berçenek- Afşin There is thousands of Kurds from Afşin who live in London. Now my point is if his from Berçenek he can be a Kurd as people say that is a Kurdish village. If you can provide a good source (not an unofficial website) to your argument instead of insulting me then I could understand. Ozgur Gerilla 12:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

text: May I remind you I'm a university student doing Msci in Computer Science. The source you're providing isn't stating his ethnicity  I don't know if you thought we won't check the source but as a curious user on the article I did and didn't find anything about his ethnicity. So, I have the right to remove it until you provide a better source. Ozgur Gerilla 11:01, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is nothing left to argue about.
A biography written about Asik Mahzuni Serif has been used as a source, it clearly states that he is a Turkmen, his ethnicity is traced back to the 1800's. This is definitive enough. 
Seyyid Mehmet'in 1800'li yılların başında vefat etmesiyle, Hasan Köy'de asimile edilerek Sünniliği kabul eden Cırıklı ve Ağuçan Türkmenleri burada kalır. Ancak, Oniki İmam'a bağlılığını sürdürmek isteyen, Kocalar ve bir kısım Ağuçan Türkmenleri, Koç Obası ve Alhaslı yaylalarına dağılır.
http://www.mahzuniserif.com/sayfa/ana.htm
The same information is on his homepage.
 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.55.7 (talk) 22:15, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: Because we cannot find a good source to back his ethnicity we should mention the language of his work and his religion. this source states that his both Kizilbas and Alevi. Ozgur Gerilla 22:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ethnicity, Language and Religion

message: Ashik Mahsun-i Serif is a Kurdish Anatolian Alevi (Alaouite in its British English usage).
Alevism is similar to the Shia sect in Islam.
In one of his compositions (Turku: Turkish folk/traditional music), the following verse is included:
The phrase in the song titled "Bana Donek Demis Itin Birisi"
Ordu yikcakmiş Ker hele hele
The word 'Ker' is a synonym in the Kurdish language, that refers to a donkey.
I hope you realise this fact
(Umarim bunuda gozden gecirirsiniz)
You have given up to nationalism and you are denying a dead person's ethnic reality...its a great shame indeed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.143.155 (talk) 10:27, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greetings ! 

message: How its happened his richly disabled 4 children are dying in the streets before and after ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by easyasnottary (talk) 13:45, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  His refused children 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: cool an hot Nayan Tantubai (talk) 04:20, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  play 

message: Hi,
While going through the recent changes feed I noticed  had highlighted some issues, albeit in a slightly odd fashion, however their concern has merit.  I've tried finding a source for the claims but failed and due to their magnitude, I think on balance they should be removed for now, which I have boldly done.  I note  alluded to similar problems in a previous revision.
Thanks,
SITH (talk) 17:53, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of chronology section