Talk:Telkom (South Africa)

message: The Openserve entry on Wikipedia was previously merged with Telkom as it was considered no more than a department of Telkom, but has since separated from Telkom and is now a subsidiary. Will the old page be reinstated, or does a new one get created?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by NicholasdebruyneFalcorp (talk • contribs) 08:57, 5 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Openserve is no longer a department of Telkom and needs its own page 

message: Telkom has its own website that includes all relevant information regarding Telkom as a company. With respect to the information contained at Wikipedia, as it is a free site, information is collected from a range of 'sources" [sic] and it is not Telkom policy to track the world wide web [sic] with regard to information published about it.
-- Lulu Letlape, head of communications for Telkom, Mail & Guardian online: Can you trust Wikipedia?, Elvira van Noort, Johannesburg, South Africa, 07 November 2005 09:13.
:That can hardly be considered objective - unless of course Telkom opens up their website for public editing. Silver Surfer 14:02, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Telcom Comment

message: Would it be possible to add a section to this effect.  The presence of Helkom and antiTelkom links tips us off that there is such a feeling.  The sub heading would probably be more objective if titled Public Opinion.  I'm unable to write the section since I am in no way neutral about Telkom.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.54.202.234 (talk • contribs) 02:58, 8 November 2005
Is it possible to have a "public opinion" section?
:You could rename the "Critisism" section - Public Opinion sounds more NPOV. Make sure it is not your opinion - Wikipedia does not like original research. Wizzy…☎ 12:15, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  AntiTelkom sentiment 

message: In a drive to further validate all articles of South African content (and the addition of new ones), I am suggesting that this page undergo a cleanup.  With expansion and a more NPOV, this article stands to be Featured.  I will, in the meantime, conduct further research into Telkom and flesh this article out somewhat.  Please let me know if we should tag this article as such. Ssteedman 12:52, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it! The SA articles certainly need work... Mikker (...) 02:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: I think that Telkom's new "relaxed" capping policy should be mentioned. Look here: TelkomInternet confirms new ADSL capping policy
Laursch 22:35, 31 August 2006.
:Not if you hear the stories of users who got threatening emails from Telkom telling them that their service would be suspended if they continually exceed their cap limit and that they should purchase "additional" bandwidth instead. Suggesting it to be merely for public image (as if anything could change that) and that they don't really want people to use it. It could just be rumours but Telkom has been known to use such tactics in the past.
: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 196.30.118.75 (talk) 10:37, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Telkom's new capping policy 

message: In the critisms section: "Call costs are considered to be high". The word 'considered' is a weasel word. Call costs are high. There is ample data to show they are, by any measure, increadibly so.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.96.5.126 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 9 October 2006
::Fair enough but if that is so then there must be accredited books, studies news or academic websites that one can reference. Without a backing reference it is just an unfounded statement and a candidate for removal.
:: This is not a soapbox no matter what one thinks of Telkom
--Tiucsib 20:12, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weasel word alert! 

message: There seems to be relatively too much content related to broadband internet on this page. I think it to be summarised on the Telkom page, and the existing content split onto a new page linked using  at the start of the section.  Comments?
Zaian 14:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine by me. Wizzy…☎ 14:39, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Would agree. The broadband industry is a separate point. Telkom is just one of the providers. Tiucsib 08:25, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broadband internet 

message: Bandwidth is used throughout the page where it should be Data Volume
 
I know that the "relaxed" usage on the page is commonly accepted in South Africa, but as Wikipedia is international, this is shabbly usage for an international audience and will cause confusion:
Bandwidth: a rate of data transfer, or bit rate, measured in bits per second
i.e. how wide (fast) is your connection
When I as a South African speak to my international Open Source colleagues and say bandwidth is limited they correct my usage with varying degrees of politeness.
This is precisely the group of people who would care most about removing Telkoms' unfair control on access to information and communication 
at a reasonable price. {See Fiscal Drag}
RichEd (talk) 14:01, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bandwidth & Data Volume 

message: I am not able to cite a reference, but I have been given comment from an International IT speaker that the unreasonably high cost of phone calls and internet access due to the Telkom monopoly "cause a fiscal drag on the South African economy of around 1.8 to 2%."
There is every reason then for the Wikipedia page on Telkom to accurately portray the organisation as expensive and controlling, but I agree that the current page however reads like a personal rant, and not a well researched article.
What about some language neutral information about the current pricing policy ?
Telkom drop the costs of international calls (where they face open market competition) and increase the costs of local land line calls - which in turn influences local cellphone call rates, and internet connection charges - yet they portray the overall price increases as balanced and reasonable.
This in my opinion contributes to the fiscal drag mentioned above, reduces opportunity for small business entrepreneurship, and inhibits job creation.
All crucial life influencing factors, all goals for the New South African economy, all dragged lower by a quest for profit.
RichEd (talk) 14:17, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fiscal Drag 

message: The monopoly statement is no longer accurate. Neotel has access to SAT-3 / SAFE bandwidth.   41.242.205.144 (talk) 18:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  SAT3 / SAFE 

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message: Send puk number with Email 197.185.109.138 (talk) 20:31, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Puk number 

message: Hello Wikipedians / Mods,
Openserve has legally separated from Telkom https://openserve.co.za/about-openserve https://openserve.co.za/assets/documents/Terms%20and%20Conditions/OPENSERVE_DIGITAL_PLATFORM_ACCEPTABLE_USAGE_TERMS_AND_CONDITIONS.pdf and should no longer redirect to the Telkom page. The Openserve page can now be reinstated, as it was changed before to redirect to Telkom as it was considered a department of Telkom, and not a subsidiary.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by NicholasdebruyneFalcorp (talk • contribs) 14:03, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Openserve Legal Separation - Reinstate Own Wikipedia Page