Talk:Flag of Minnesota

message: I haved changed this page's importance rating on the Minnesota Project wiki scale from low-importance to Top-importance. I feel that this is warranted because the top-level subjects contain information that would be useful to people both in Minnesota and outside of Minnesota. I have also added much more content from sources. I would appreciate if anyone would like to review the information and check it for bias. The page could also use some more references. However, I have changed the quality rating from Start-class to C-class, which I feel is warranted by my recent edits. I also believe this article is very close to B-class. Please let me know if you have any questions/concerns!A lover of James Garfield, math, and communism (talk) 16:16, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits 

message: Hello. The background color was kind of blue-green. I modified the SVG for now to another blue and posted a note at Talk:Minnesota#Minnesota_flag_color. -Susanlesch (talk) 06:11, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Medium blue

message: Since 1989, several efforts have been made to redesign the Minnesota flag — most notably the North Star Flag campaign. The North American Vexillological Association (NAVA), in its 2001 survey of US States, US Territories and Canadian provincial flags rated the current Minnesota flag 67th out of 72 flags evaluated.
i moved this here because it seems more like someone promoting a new design, than an actual new design being proposed. Smith03 (talk) 18:07, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I added more about the proposed change to the article, including the North Star Flag and Guy Johnson's petition. Should the North Star flag have its own article? A lover of James Garfield, math, and communism (talk) 17:21, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: New flag proposals

message: The settler in the picture is clearly holding a plow, where is this "gun?"
Also, how is the Native fleeing? Maybe he's visiting? What is the source for that being a fact?
24.154.94.169 (talk) 13:18, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The gun is resting against a stump.  But, I agree that some of the things said about the seal are possible interpretations. I join you in asking What are the sources?  SlowJog (talk) 04:31, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: In trying to provide a clearer image, I went to the Seal of Minnesota page. The talk page there has a link to http://www.leg.state.mn.us/webcontent/leg/symbols/sealarticle.pdf , which is from the state explaining the history of the state seal. It says the Native American depicted was riding toward the setting sun, but this was changed in 1983 so he is ridding south. It then becomes more likely that he is visiting. 04:46, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism

message: The Criticism section states that the Native American near the farmer's land represents manifest destiny. This does not have a reliable source, only a few blogs. The Minnesota State Flag's website does not mention manifest destiny at all, and another reliable source says that "The Indian on horseback is riding due south and represents the Indian heritage of Minnesota." As such, I have removed this from the criticism section. Mamyles (talk) 18:48, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Now we don't know what is the criticism about the flag and why there is a replacement campaign.--Manfariel (talk) 15:23, 3 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism section is made up 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In the process of revising parts of this article, I came to realized how profoundly misleading the drawings for the 1893 flag are compared the few photos I was able to access through image searches. I tried to correct some key details of the obverse, but if anyone has the skills to do a better job, please have at it. —jameslucas ▄▄▄ ▄ ▄▄▄ ▄▄▄ ▄ 20:22, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illustrations of the 1893 design 

message: Added links to redesign commission authorization. Note: this does not mean the flag has or will be redesigned, the commission's proposal must be approved by the legislature. Mrfeek (talk) 14:55, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Redesign

message: "concerns that the image depicted by the seal offers a revisionist view of Minnesota's settlement by Europeans that conceals the violence committed against indigenous peoples"
Is there a better source about these concerns? Do they expect the entire history of the state to be printed on the flag in a paragraph? Why aren't they concurrently claiming the flag of WA state conceals violence such as the Puget Sound War? What is so special about Minnesota's specifically? Thornfield Hall (talk) 01:23, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy  

message: It's 2024 population has more than 5000000 people Mazeriboy(Minnesotaman) (talk) 22:45, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Sir, this is the FLAG of Minnesota, not the state itself. IonlyPlayz2 (talk) 15:37, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  geography 

message: The flag will be replaced on May 11, 2024. Much of the article above "History" can be moved to the section "1983 revision" (the current flag). The new top of the article then needs similar information which is relevant to the new flag. If someone wants to do this and have it ready, perhaps in a sandbox, maybe mention it here? SEWilco (talk) 20:10, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  May 11, 2024, Changes 

message: In-line attribution is allowed when it comes to Blaze Media as stated at WP:RSP  The content being verified is a attributed opinion of Tim Pool. The removal of the Blaze Media source, only attributes the content to a source Media Matters of America which itself is at RSP and is a partisan source, and thus creates bias and non-neutrality. RightCowLeftCoast (Moo) 23:16, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: You've misunderstood. That would mean WP:RSOPINION and it's talking about a tweet - David Gerard (talk) 01:44, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: I'm new to editing so please bear with me, your feedback is welcome! I recommend removing the language "Herold had opposed the official state flag since its creation when he was in high school.[19] In 1995, he left his career as an accountant and opened a flag store, Herold Flags, in Rochester, Minnesota." Biographical information about one of the two designers of a flag that was never adopted does not seem to be necessary information for this page. Does anyone else agree? --Greenbison (talk) 13:04, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm the one who added that statement so I'll explain my reasoning here. The information about Herold comes from a source about the history of the North Star Flag. I think it's relevant to the section to explain Herold's motivation to make a new flag, and also that owning a flag store became his career. I understand why you think it seems more like biographical details than information about the flag, but I personally think it belongs in the article. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 18:40, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: New flag proposals