Talk:Haley Barbour

message: [Negative material that was here has been removed.  Peter O. (Talk) 17:55, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: someone should please edit into this that haley barbour is leading the nation in education cuts. he won't raise taxes on people who can afford it here, and continues to hurt our children and our public services. 
source:
"The additional 3.2 percent reduction to the K-12 education budget announced today by Governor Barbour totals $75,413,738, including $66,122,814 to the Mississippi Adequate Education Program (MAEP), a program passed by the legislature to provide adequate and equitable funding for all schools.  Not only do these cuts come late in the budget year, they are in addition to the more than $116 million previously cut from K-12 education during this fiscal year." - http://www.jacksonfreepress.com/index.php/site/comments/superintendent_responds_to_education_cuts/
i know biography is important but i think some attention should be paid to the actual policies. he is responsible for this . i would personally edit this page but i am not good at it technically. if anyone would please take the time, many in MS and nation would appreciate the clearer content and context of his reign in MS. thank you 76.123.142.53 (talk) 20:03, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: State Budget Cuts

message: In the "Other Accomplishments" section, Gov. Barbour's balancing of the $700 million budget deficit without raising taxes is mentioned, followed by a list of areas in which he increased spending. All that's said of where this money came from is "He kept the budget in the black by cutting in other areas." It seems to me that, in order to not be unevenly positive on Mr. Barfour's financial feats, those areas that got cut should be mentioned. I'm pretty sure he cut Medicare or Medicaid (probably both), but someone more knowledgeable should put that information in.
(SenorCrunchy 19:55, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Medicare is a federal program, while Medicaid is jointly funded and administered by states. Barbour cut a lot of Medicaid funding from the state budget. I've added a lot of data and citations as to what exactly happened (I accidentally forgot to login before the first edit). I freely admit that I really don't like Barbour as a politician -- he's completely in the pocket of special interests: the Medicaid cuts hit poor retired people and the disabled, while Mississippi's taxes remain among the most regressive in the nation and the cigarette taxes are the lowest -- but I have tried to keep it as NPOV as possible. Suggestions and edits are welcome, but please make sure to let me know why if you feel obligated to remove a lot of information. Shayborg 05:19, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if it exactly counts as a "feat" to take a hacksaw to programs that fund the poor and elderly and pretend you did something positive.74.227.63.107 (talk) 01:15, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: More Info, Anyone?

message: The original section read as follows: 
During this failed bid for Senator a controversy arose at a campaigning stump when Barbour was caught espousing racist views in a joking manner. In the presence of the press he and an aide were complaining that "coons" were going to be at a campaign stop at the state fair. Barbour warned the aide, in front of reporters, that if the aide persisted in racist remarks, he would be "reincarnated as a watermelon and placed at the mercy of blacks."Barbour Campaign Shows GOP's Racist Side
Yet, reading the source, this is not what happened.  I have re-inserted information regarding the controversy as sourced in the article.
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Yet, reading the source, this is not what happened.  I have re-inserted information regarding the controversy as sourced in the article.''
Huh? The article gives a racist quote which is directly attributable to Barbour. "Barbour warned the aide, in front of reporters, that if the aide persisted in racist remarks, he would be 'reincarnated as a watermelon and placed at the mercy of blacks.'" Restored 1982 campaign controversy
:I've changed the cited source for this to the original NYT article from 1982, which is still available through TimesSelect (free for educational users). Shayborg 05:20, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  1982 campaign controversy 

message: Partisan statements, restored by anonymous user 64.12.117.8, have been reverted so that the article presents a Neutral Point of View in accordance with Wikipedia policy.--StanZegel 13:38, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: You are not stating the situation from a neutral point of view. Your comments indicate your motivation, and your delight that the selections are spun a certain way. But on the Wikipedia the articles must be fair and balanced: that's what Neutral Point of View is all about. The article needs to be reverted back to NPOV. --StanZegel 02:46, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

text: No, I did not try to have you blocked. Thanks for checking and observing the policy. --StanZegel 15:57, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Partisan Points of View 

message: In the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, Fox News is the one and only one in major news coverage to place the blame on both Ray Nagin and Kathleen Blanco. Fox News failed to mention about the responsiblity of  Alabama and  Mississippi's governors failure of saving their states. You realize that Louisiana's governor is Democrat and New Orleans mayor is now a Democrat. Fox seems to lack their coverage of how many people are still trapped in the city. Fox News has not ever had the pleasure of interviewing Nagin or Blanco. I guess they knew that Fox News was going to entertain their conservative audience by placing blame on those who carry less power than the people at  Washington. So now that Fox knows what going on at the local and state level, they need to go after the neighboring states. Of course, Nagin is in a crisis, Blanco is in a crisis, and Bush is in DC trying to make more a publiciity by giving money to these states. Of course, other countries are trying to help and Bush is refusing most of them! Fox News failed to state that the late response time from FEMA, the Bush Administration's role, and of course, the refugee and looters comments, alongside Alabama and Mississippi's non-stop crisis, too! I'm not too thrilled with Fox News coverage.  LILVOKA 2005 September 7 13:35
Well, what do you ecxpect from Faux news channel, but anyway, you can goto FOX new channel page to talk about this, not here. --C.levin 00:07, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why FOX NEWS is not blaming Barbour and Riley? 

message: One unregistered user just post a polling result, please also indicate the source, relevent part has been moved here, please modify the source when you try to move it back to main article.
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According to a SurveyUSA poll, Governor Barbour has fared the best politically in comparision to President Bush, Governor Blanco, Mayor Nagin, Secretary Chertoff, and Undersecretary Brown.
--C.levin 23:39, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polling result without reference source 

message: Someone continually reverts edits to enter non-neutral designations into the campaign section of this article, specifically, calling the firestorm in the media "partisan", people who opposed the governor's appearance at the CCC event "extremists" and claiming that "attempts to smear him" were made.  Flat out crossing the line with that language.  Stop reverting the article or I say we lock it down.
--TheBurningHelm 19:23, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nonstop attempts to introduce non-neutral language 

message: There seems to be a strong resemblence to old-time New Jersey politican William Warren Barbour. Are they related? Dvd Avins 12:11, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on information in the William Warren Barbour talk page, there appears to be no common ancestry, for at least the several centuries that the two lineages have been in America. Dvd Avins 13:59, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Related to William Warren Barbour? 

message: I probably hate Haley Barbour more than any other American politician, but even to me this article seems a little too negative to be truly NPOV.  Is there anything positive to say about him or his policies other than the little Rudy Giuliani bit?  If I knew of any good things he's done I'd add them, but I can't think of any. Shayborg 00:59, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Negative tone 

message: Tdl1060 keeps deleting this section, claiming that it was "unsourced". This is false, as I stated in the edit summary. The source was the New York Times. 
If you want to delete it, Tdl1060, tell me what your real reason is. Nbauman 01:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, our edits crossed and I missed you adding the source. I removed it the first time along with parts that were simply commentary, and a story about Jamikia Brown that did not belong Haley Barbour's article. Since the link is not open access I could not tell what parts the ref. applied to.--Tdl1060 16:42, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So what is your reason for deleting it?Nbauman 00:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The section is currently there, I removed the ref. along with commentary that was inappropriate to the article. I then tagged the section c.n. so someone would source it. Now that you have, I'm not going to remove the section.--Tdl1060 17:17, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Infant mortality

message: He won the re-election. I have no source or citation so I didn't bother posting it but I just wanted to get that out there so someone would.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.209.150.157 (talk) 04:10, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: FYI

message: I'm blogging about T Boon Picken's million dollar Swift Boat challenge and am speculating that Pickens is going to welch on it. That reminds me of when Haley Barbour stood up on national TV with a gigantic check for something like a million dollars to anyone who could prove that the GOP proposals would cut Social Security benefits.  Of course, a number of people took him up on the challenge but Barbour didn't pay a dime -- instead he counter-sued them in Mississippi courts with a nuisance law suit.  
The case accurately cited below did not involve a nuisance suit but was a decision on the merits that the claimants failed to make their case that Barbour was wrong -- the fairly obvious implication being that Barbour's assertion that "the claims about cuts were false" was in fact accurate. (MTP)   
I've Googled and Googles about that story but with no luck.  Do any of you have a memory of it or -- better yet -- a link to a news article?  I'm thinking this is circa 1994 but am not sure. --Calan (talk) 20:48, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barbour's million dollar bet on Social Security cuts. Didn't he welch on that? 

message: I have seen several people report something like the following: 
:The racial sensitivity at Barbour headquarters was suggested by an exchange between the candidate and an aide who complained that there would be `coons' at a campaign stop at the state fair. Embarrassed that a reporter heard this, Mr. Barbour warned that if the aide persisted in racist remarks, he would be reincarnated as a watermelon and placed at the mercy of blacks." Article in Boston Globe.
The article in question that this comes from appears to be a 1982 New York Times article that can be found here .  Its behind a paywall so I can't verify its accuracy, but I was hoping someone else could so that we could clear up exactly what happened and then decide whether it should be included in the article. Remember (talk) 13:36, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: 1982 controversial statement

message: CREW is described by the Washington Post has "A prominent Washington advocacy group" and (in connection with their critical remarks on Democrat Maxine Waters) as " a nonpartisan watchdog group." Their 2010 list of the most corrupt members of congress includes just about equal numbers of D and R.  If somebody wants to present Barbour's defense when called one of America's most corrupt governors by them, find some better way than by attempting to discredit CREW by labeling them as "liberal," which is offtopic and POV.  Questionic (talk) 16:59, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "liberal" group 

message: There are a lot of uncited quotations relating to Barbour's recent statements about MLK, the Klan, etc.  It's good that this issue has been included in the article, but it needs to be tightened up and cited properly.  I know I'm supposed to Be Bold, but I am just a current-events rubbernecker who knows nothing about Barbour, and I'd rather leave the job to someone with a little more knowledge of the situation.  TremorMilo (talk) 15:28, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent controversies 

message: I've removed the separate Criticisms section of the article – but not the material itself – as having separate "controversies" or "criticisms" or "scandals" sections or subarticles is considered a violation of WP:NPOV, WP:Content forking, and WP:Criticism.  In particular, a special effort was undertaken to rid all 2008 presidential candidates' biographical articles of such treatment — see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject United States presidential elections/Archive 1#Status of "controversies" pages — and the same should be done for any of the likely 2012 contenders.
I've also reordered the sections for chronological flow, so that the article makes more sense to follow.  I haven't added or removed any actual content, just restructured.  Wasted Time R (talk) 04:31, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticisms section gone 

message: I think this should be mentioned in light of Mr. Barbour's latest comments refusing to denounce a controversial proposal to honor Nathan Bedford Forrest, one of the founders of the KKK, an American terrorist organization. There are hundreds of articles written within the last 24 hours highlighting his comments. 70.88.141.161 (talk) 23:55, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refusal to denounce license plate honoring KKK founder 

message: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2084337/Mississippi-Governor-Haley-Barbour-pardons-convicted-murderers.html
This should be annotated in the "controversy" section.Ryoung122 22:12, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Pardoning Murderers (white only, mostly killers of women) Controversy

message: I reverted the contributions made in this edit for the following reasons:
*Erick Erickson and RedState.com are not reliable sources.
*The usage of an FEC filing to support the claim that "the super PAC 'All Citizens for Mississippi', which is a super PAC affiliated with Barbour, played the Race card in many of its ads" is a blatant misuse of a primary source
*The referenced Clarion-Ledger source is misrepresented.
*The Daily Mail is a questionable source, especially for a BLP.
*The National Review is not a reliable source for factual statements.
*The Daily Caller is a questionable source.
*Ted Cruz's statement is a WP:PRIMARY source.
The IP user's additions fail to meet Wikipedia's standards for verifiability, especially for BLPs.
RJaguar3 | u | t 20:23, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
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message: Perhaps there should be a section about Barbour’s work as a lobbyist for the coal industry? I’m not expert enough to write one, but someone else here might be willing to do the research?
Sources: 2013 AP story, Sierra Club report, NY Times story. –70.36.196.50 03:11, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
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