Talk:List of Sydney suburbs

message: Tennyson Point, New South Wales and Tennyson Point. Same name, yet one is near Glossodia, and the other is near Gladesville. Is there a better way to name these, so as to differentiate them? - All the best, Nickj (t) 08:41, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on http://www.ga.gov.au/bin/gazm01?placename=tennyson&placetype=R&state=NSW and the map linked from Tennyson Point, New South Wales, that one (on the Hawkesbury) should be at Tennyson, New South Wales, and the article currently at Tennyson Point should be at Tennyson Point, New South Wales. I also verified that with reference to List of postcodes in New South Wales (N-Z). --Scott Davis Talk 09:49, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Thank you both, with the help of Ambi the changes described above have been made, and everything should now be in the right place. -- All the best, Nickj (t) 02:24, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tennyson Name clash? 

message: When I was compiling my list earlier, I didn't notice that the Strathfield West neighbourhood desgination by the GNB was withdrawn in 1992. I haven't found the name on any maps, so unless it is in a modern edition of a street directory, I would suggest removing it. JPD 11:10, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strathfield West 

message: According to the GNB Register (as referenced in this article), Snapper Island is in the LGA of Leichhardt . But the planning brief from the Sydney Harbour Federation Trust for the same island explicitly states Snapper Island is unincorporated. This means that it does not fall within any particular Local Government Area. . Makes me wonder how accurate the register is. -- chris_j_wood 10:16, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "You may notice that there are references to 'old' LGA names, topographic maps and parishes in the database. This is because the geographical features were originally gazetted against these old names."  Basically, the register is a register of gazettals, not of the current details. Taken in that way, it's quite accurate. JPD 11:01, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accuracy of the GNB Register 

message: * Should we add Iron Cove to list of suburbs / localities? (has an article)
* Should we add Yarra Junction, New South Wales to list of suburbs / localities? (no article, but is in list of suburbs in City of Randwick)
* Should we add Milson Island to the list of suburbs / localities? (has an article)
* Should the currently non-existent Broadway article use and expand on the Broadway, Sydney article, which is currently just about the road?
-- All the best, Nickj (t) 09:16, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some questions 

message: Yay, there are currently no more redlinks on the list of Sydney suburbs!
I'm thinking now we should clean up the Local Government Areas of Sydney. Doing this will find any missing suburbs or useful localities, and also allow us to strip out the bad data from the LGAs. Some of the lists of suburbs may have come from the department of local government, and unfortunately they are often a little bit too generous with their definitions of what counts as a suburb.
I've had a look through the LGAs and the suburb templates (for those LGAs that have them), and made a list of those that have redlinks left. The ultimate aim being that all either LGAs should have no redlinks or that their redlinks should also be listed on the list of Sydney suburbs.
The following have a few redlinks:
* City of Fairfield - done.
* [[Municipality of Kogarah done by J Bar.
* Municipality of Mosman
* City of Sydney - should add the Macdonaldtown urban locality, the Chinatown urban locality, probably St James, and maybe Golden Grove. - done.
* City of Canada Bay - 2 localities to add, I'll add these another day.  - closure by removing them instead.
* Municipality of Woollahra - done.
* City of Liverpool
These LGAs have lots of redlinks:
*City of Blacktown - done.
*Camden Council - done by Braue.
*City of Campbelltown, apart from Sherwood Hills -- (I've removed sherwood hills Braue 06:15, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm fairly sure some of the areas in the Sutherland Shire list are fictional, Bangor Heights and Menai Heights I've never heard of but Menai East is occasionally used to describe part of Menai. Granted my knowledge of my own local area is slightly limited, but the Bangor/Menai reigon is the part I know best. Quolnok 05:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Yay, no more redlinks! On to cleaning up LGAs...

message: Howdy all, An extensive table of Sydney suburbs (and their different possible names) has been added at List of Sydney suburbs/table. The quick primer on using it is this: Ideally everything in columns 1, 2, 5, and 6 should be blue; and everything in columns 3 and 4 should either be red, or if it is blue it should be checked to make sure that it is either a redirect page, or a disambig page that includes a link to the Sydney suburb of the same name, or includes a "see also" link to the Sydney suburb of that name. Currently only the two rightmost columns remain to be done (everything should be blue in these); All the other columns I think should be done now. -- All the best, Nickj (t) 05:04, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Now split between List of Sydney suburbs/table (A-M) and List of Sydney suburbs/table (N-Z), although pretty much everything in those tables is now done I think. -- All the best, Nickj (t) 02:20, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extensive table of Sydney suburbs added 

message: One thing giving me the shits on Council pages in Sydney is that many of the "suburbs" are not suburbs at all! I had to change the City of Ryde list and move all the non-suburbs onto a list of localities. Even then, I would debate a few of them even exisiting as I grew up in Ryde/Hunters Hill area and have never heard of many of the localities referred to. 
For example, Monash Park, New South Wales. This is a post office with PO Boxes and a cricket oval. THAT'S IT. No one calls it Monash Park and if they do, they're merely referring to the cricket/soccer ground.
I am sure this is the case for many other Council pages. I have fixed up Municipality of Hunter's Hill and City of Ryde but I know many others need work. Dankru 14:21, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You want to know where they come from? You sitting down? Ready for the awful truth? From here. That's right. The NSW Department of local government, who maintain a list of what suburbs are in a council, which was the starting point for many of our lists: but it turns out their lists are woefully wrong, and list many suburbs that no sane local resident would say exists. So the very government department responsible for saying who's responsible for what suburb, knows nada / zip / zilch / nothing. Reassuring to see our tax dollars hard at work, huh? Hence the desire to clean up the LGAs. -- All the best, Nickj (t) 23:05, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Localities v suburbs 

message: OK, this is a confusing one, and hopefully I haven't added to the confusion. There seems to be a proliferation of pages about Town Hall, including two building stubs for the building, so I'm trying to clean it up a bit. I removed it from the List of Sydney suburbs and Suburbs of Sydney nicknames on the basis that it isn't a suburb, and isn't shown as such in my street directory (Sydway) - or in the list Nickj mentioned above as it turns out (although I didn't find this page until afterwards). If consensus is deleting the references to it as a suburb was a bad idea, feel free to replace them, I'm not going to get into an edit war over it - but I am going to try and keep working on the conflicting Sydney Town Hall building pages.
--Paddles 15:08, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's included in my very old (1996) UBD under the "Suburbs and Localities" index as a "Locality". I agree it's not a suburb, and agree with removing any references to it as a suburb; but it may be worth still including it in the list of suburbs, as this list includes many other localities too (basically anything in italics is a locality). Essentially, Suburb: no, Building: yes, Locality: maybe. I don't feel strongly about it either though ;-) -- All the best, Nickj (t) 02:58, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  A lot of "suburbs" in Sydney started because it was too far to walk to the next Cityrail railway station... So if Town Hall isn't a suburb, what suburb is it in? Garrie 04:23, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Station names don't have to reflect suburb names. Town Hall is in Sydney 2000, as is Wynyard Station. Central Station is in Haymarket 2000. Green Square Station is in Alexandria 2015 (the area is also a locality Green Square, but not a suburb). Similarly, if we look at a couple of small streets near Town Hall, Druitt Lane and Mullins St, they are listed as being in the suburb of Sydney, not the "suburb" of Town Hall. Paddles 11:56, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I came back for another reason - the comment by Paddles is pretty obvious to anyone who looks in any of the sources for suburb names but it is nice to have it spelt out by someone who cared to get the details correct. Thanks Paddles (however late this is!) --Garrie 00:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Town Hall

message: You blokes have done a great job with these suburbs. I've been adding my photos to them lately, as well as expanding the text here and there. If there are any shots you could especially use, you could let me know and I'll see if I've got anything. Never know your luck.
Sardaka 10:35, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos

message: I see there has been a great deal of debate about whether certain places are suburbs or not, eg Town Hall. you could probably settle most of these debates by getting in touch with the local council, in whatever area it is.
Another resource that might come in handy is the Department of Local Government, Parliament House, Sydney.
Sardaka 10:29, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Suburbs

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