Talk:Justice Society of America

message: "The team was popular throughout the 1940s, but after superheroes fell out of favor, its series All-Star Comics became All-Star Western in 1951, ceasing the team’s adventures."  
Would anyone object to changing "All-Star Western" to "All-Star Western"  or is there a reason why we're linking to a generic western genre wikipedia page when we could be linking to a stub that describes the actual comic book after the JSA strip was abandoned? 
ZachsMind 13:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: When it comes to such changes, you don't have to ask or warn about it. Make the edit, write a summary and this is it. Regards —Lesfer (talk/@) 14:23, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  All-Star Western 

message: The text states that Wonder Woman was not a member of the JSA in the post-Crisis golden age, yet the picture has her in it. Anyone care to offer an explanation? --- Rogsheng 16:56, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wonder Woman

message: The two sections with this in the header need to be changed to a NPOV format. Ideas? CovenantD 06:09, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Appearances 

message: I understand if someone complains about any of my recent editing, but I would like objections to be raised here first before reverting the page. The abundancy of images was unnecessary, and showed nothing actually important, besides being pretty pictures. I added the much needed titleboxes and removed the members section because all of that info is in the members article, and that's exactly what we have it for. Kusonaga 11:05, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Vertigo and DC share the same continuity. How does Sandman Mystery Theatre not fit? --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 19:22, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They don't quite share the same continuity.  They reference each other from time to time, but both are perfectly able to furrow their own paths.  Vertigo editorial is very protective of the characters under its remit and usually are not concerned with syncing up with the DCU. In the case of SMT, it retcons away Sandy and Sandman's Kirby jumpsuit.  However I think other aspects of the series have been referenced in main DCU titles like Starman.  WesleyDodds 01:51, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that's true. Superboy may have punched 1940s New York in the face, though. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 09:31, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the thing I hate most about Infinite Crisis is I have to use the phrase "So Superboy-Prime punched time . . ." in casual conversation with my friends about comic books. God, I hate you, Judd Winick. Anyways, like The Golden Age SMT introduced concepts that later writers picked up on and that made their way into canon.  But unless it's mentioned in the pages of JSA or Starman or the like we probably shouldn't hold to it. WesleyDodds 10:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine by me. I always take Golden Age to be continuity anyway. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 14:33, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some clean-up 

message: I felt it noteworthy to list this, because it is in animated continuity.  Would other versions be more appropriate to title it as?.
:I disagree that an extension of the animated continuity is noteworthy enough to be included, especially in such detail. What makes it more noteworthy than the years of appearances in Justice League of America, which are only superficially covered (and actually reflected some major changes for the team)? Recent does not equal notable. CovenantD 01:56, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: (edit conflict) It's different than some of the others (not all of which are appropriate either) because of the 65+ year history of the JSA. The larger the topic, the more of an overview the article becomes and the fewer details it can accomodate. A single cameo appearance that has no profound impact on the team should not be given six lines in the article. At that rate, the Silver Age/Justice League section would be over five times the size it is now, and I won't even calculate what length the section on the regular series would be - ridiculous sums it up adequately. It's all about perspective, the same issue with the Kid Lantern edit to Wally West (yes, I recognize the IP now), another single-story edit that was given undue space. It could be argued that giving so much space to single stories that had no profound effect is biased and caters to fans rather than being encyclopedic. Same thing with the TPB list - they are all basically reprints for the fanbase and not notable in their own right. If it were a best-selling version or has some relevance besides the collectors aspects then that would be noteworthy, but a list simply is not. (Another editor has recently been adding TPB lists to many different articles, which is why it's on my radar now. I'll probably be bringing it up on the Comics Project talk page since I don't recall any overall discussion about them in articles.) Don't get me wrong, I'm an avid comic book reader myself and have been for over 30 years - I simply think the articles need to be balanced in terms of their overall impact and importance, and neither of these contributions do that. CovenantD 05:53, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

text: That just seems like a catalog listing. Wikipedia is not that. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 10:27, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Justice League Adventures #20

message: At the end of the article, the boxes (such as Members and Villians) link to Justice League information, not Justice Society.
Vlouie01 17:37, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's meant that way, since it's a box about the League, not the Society. Kusonaga 18:26, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Incorrect footers(?)

message: I apologize if I get any terminology wrong here. I am confused by the box that appears top right of the article and outlines various monthly series the JSA has had. First off the dates and # of issues don't match up. I do understand that problem: one list is overlooking the mini-series and one list is considering JSA to be "Volume 2". I didn't correct it myself; I leave it to people more involved with this page. Ok the recent comics are:
*Justice Society of America (volume 1) 8 issues (miniseries)
*Justice Society of America (volume 2) 10 issues (ongoing)  <--- this was the one that was cancelled
*JSA 87 issues (ongoing) <--- cancelled in order to reboot & retitle
*Justice Society of America (volume 3) 2+ issues (ongoing)
Here's the problem I see: why include the 8-issue mini but not the 4-issue "America vs. the Justice Society," the "Last Days of the Justice Society" one-shot, or the ongoing 21+ issues of "JSA Classified"? Furthermore it seems somewhat misleading to list books that were titled "Justice Society" but exclude "All-Star Comics" which is historically much more significant. STFmaryville 09:17, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comic series infobox 

message: Perhaps there should be a subsection devoted to their headquarters from New York City to Civic City (is it really in Pennsylvania, as I recall reading?) to the brief satellite HQ they had in 1951 to Gotham City again and then New York City. If I'm recalling correctly, in Justice Society of America vol. 2, their NYC headquarters was the former townhouse of Wesley Dodds, which was then destroyed in the Virtue and Vice graphic novel. That townhouse was said to be in Morningside Heights (the area in Manhattan around Columbia University) and the rebuilt headquarters was built with funds from then-President Lex Luthor on the same site. 
However, in Justice Society of America (vol. 3) #2, their headquarters is now in Battery Park, at the southern tip of Manhattan (and about six miles south of Morningside Heights). When was it moved? RahadyanS 03:08, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The team's various headquarters through the years 

message: In "Comic series infobox" above, I proposed a version of the infobox that would include All Star Comics and JSA, so as to avoid confusion and include all the team's ongoings. The box would look something like this [Edited: Box removed so as not to clutter the talk page]. What does everyone think? Rajah1 08:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New infobox?

message: Not related. For all the reasons I've already explained: The team is not related to Mary, Marvel Jr., Hoppy or the Lieutenants Marvel. If we follow this line of action, we would end up adding the Amazons in there due to Wonder Woman's membership. Nonsense. 201.53.30.159 13:06, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: JSA and Marvel Family

message: Should we add the info from the template on other articles like All-Satr Squadron?? Brian Boru is awesome 20:37, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Template:Justice Society of America

message: Does anybody think that someone is being a little too gung-ho on the issue updates? I mean, a paragraph per issue, that's a bit much. We should try to limit it to a paragraph per story arc at most, and delay posting that until the arc is over, that way there's not too much speculation, we keep the length of this page down, and it says better organized.
Jdarryl (talk) 15:59, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Too detailed?

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replies: text: Done - it really needs more references. (Emperor (talk) 03:00, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Comics B-Class Assesment required

message: Is it just me, or does this page seem too cluttered with publication details to be readible to anyone who's only interested in character details. Why not separate the two into two different pages or sections, like Superman or Batman's pages?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.40.210.85 (talk) 22:51, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree it is a bit tricky to read but I'd be loath to suggest having an article for the team and one for the title - Superman and Batman have a vast publishing history across half a dozen title dedicated to them so it makes sense to have separate articles but I am unsure it is a good idea to do that now. One simple solution might be to turn some of the primary references into footnotes which would make it an easier read. It would require a bit of re-writing too so we can keep the flow but could be worth it. It might also be that we need a more wide-ranging re-write to separate "publication history" from "fictional team biography". (Emperor (talk) 03:00, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Too Cluttered

message: Concerning the second volume of the collection of the Bronze Age revival of All-Star Comics and its follow-ups from Adventure Comics, can anybody confirm whether or not the origin of the Huntress (Helena Wayne), from the penultimate issue of DC Super-Stars (#17) is included, preferably between the stories from ASC #s 70 & 71? If DC left it out that was pretty dumb, especially since they did include the JSA origin from the last issue of DC Special (#29). It is not only by the same creative team (as is the team's origin), but it is important to the plot of #71 (they don't explain just who she is in any depth, but only very sketchily, with an editorial footnote that the reader should see if he can still find a copy of DCS-S #17 for details). Anybody know whether or not it's in the collection? --Tbrittreid (talk) 21:55, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Justice Society, Volume 2 

message: which material collects Crisis on Multiple Earths volume 6??
Here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_League#Miscellaneous_reprints) we can read: Justice League of America #195-197, 207-209, 219-220, 231-232, 244
and here (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Justice_Society_of_America#Collected_editions) we can read: Justice League of America #195-197, 207-209, All-Star Squadron #14-15
what is true?
-- 89.0.11.243 (talk) 16:21, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crisis on Multiple Earths volume 6 

message: Per the Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Comics#In-line use of dates and issue numbers "The lead section of a character's, team's or object's article should include within the text the issue number and cover date of the first appearance" Please note the term "cover date" rather than "made up date". The Grand Comics Database gives the cover date of All Star Comics #3 as "Winter 1940-1941" and an on-sale date of "1940-11-22". The ComicBookdb gives it as "Winter 1940". Mike's Amazing World of Comics also gives a cover date of "Winter 1940" and an on-sale date of November 22, 1940 and has a snippet view of the Library of Congress copyright record as verification!
So why in the name of Gardner Fox did someone change the cover date of All-Star Comics #3 to "December 1940"? The cover clearly shows the word "Winter" NOT "December" or "Dec." 
Mtminchi08 (talk) 00:14, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comics Manual of Style 

message: The article had read "In the series The CW's The Flash, a carving of people that clearly represent the Justice Society stands in the Central City Police Department Building" but according to this source, the show's head production designer Tyler Harron says it's the Justice League and not the Justice Society: "these mythological gods are actually the Justice League in disguise! Looking a little closer, you can see we've got Superman as Zeus (Jupiter), Batman as Hades (Pluto), Wonder Woman as Hera (Juno), the Flash as Hermes (Mercury), Green Arrow as Apollo, Aquaman as Poseidon (Neptune), and the Green Lantern as Hephaestus (Vulcan)." 
Mtminchi08 (talk) 02:50, 24 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Flash tv show 

message: This article is about a fictional team. There is no reason for the title to appear in italics. Could someone please fix this? --Omnipaedista (talk) 20:43, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: No reason for italic title

message: A lot of people say JSA is actually short for Jewnited States of America. Is that mentionable at all?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.204.35.180 (talk) 08:17, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Other than the acronym, I don't see that it pertains to this article at all, even if you could provide referencing. --Killer Moff (talk) 12:51, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.204.39.101 (talk) 02:40, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hidden message? 

message: I found two paragraphs in this article that I feel need splitting. The first one is the first paragraph of the article:
I think the sentence beginning with "[d]uring" would be a good place to split it.
Here's the second one from the section on DC Rebirth (footnotes removed):
I think the sentence starting with "[w]hen" would work best for a place to split the paragraph.
Could anyone please tell me if these are good ideas?--Thylacine24 (talk) 11:47, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paragraphs which may need splitting