Talk:Battle of Culloden

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: At present the article shows that the Government's advance guard included 300 men from Loudon's Highlanders regiment and quotes Reid (2002) as the source. However, there is a more recent in depth book written by Tony Pollard in 2009, which I think more correctly describes this unit as the "Highland Brigade", which was made up of 8 companies of soldiers; 3 from Loudon's Highlanders, 4 from the Campbell of Argyll Militia and one from the 43rd (Black Watch) Regiment of Foot. I though I would discuss here first to make sure that no-one objected to me making any changes to this.QuintusPetillius (talk) 12:24, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Government advance guard - Loudon's 64th Highlanders

message: 'Part of a religious Civil War' is very debatable. 
Religion was not the issue at stake - the single most consistent factor was opposition to the Union (most of the clansmen didn't get the choice, they had to follow their chief) and nearly all were Protestants of one kind or another (Episcopalians). The references in the third paragraph are also misleading eg
Charles Stuart's Jacobite army consisted largely of Catholics and Episcopalians....The British Government (Hanoverian loyalist) forces were mostly Protestants...
I think these references should be removed because they're not relevant. Robinvp11 (talk) 10:03, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the IP editor. Also, the Jacobite cause overall was not necessarily against the union, as the Jacobite leader Charles Edward Stuart wanted the throne of the whole of the United Kingdom; England and not just Scotland.QuintusPetillius (talk) 13:35, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religious Civil War 

message: The article mentions (correctly) that many of the Government "wounded" would not have survived their wounds. It is worth pointing out that this is even more true of the Jacobite "wounded", most of whom would have died or been killed during the subsequent days.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.108.92.22 (talk) 14:38, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casualties 

message: Reading the article I note it still says that the Jacobites stood under a 20-30 minute bombardment taking casualties.
The most recent accounts (eg Pittock; Reid in Pollard etc) cite observers who estimated the total period of the cannonade as only about 6-9 minutes. Reid points out this would cause only a handful of casualties (rather than Prebble's 700-800 over 30 minutes) and concludes that much of the damage was instead done by the canister and mortars fired after the advance started with rifle fire doing the rest after the lead Jacobite regiments got boxed in against the government lines. In other words the 'standing under a barrage while the commanders faffed about' narrative is wrong. Some other details seem to confirm this, such as Lord John Drummond walking across the front of the Jacobite line trying to tempt the government 'hatmen' to fire - he wouldn't surely have done this if they were actually being cannonaded to pieces. Any thoughts? Svejk74 (talk) 11:58, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Bombardment

message: I know it’ll be bloomin’ obvious to anyone editing this page, but to the non-expert general reader (like me) it’s not entirely obvious which “government” Cumberland’s forces were under. I suspect it was GB and so what’s needed is simply the addition of the adjective, “British”, but as a layman I’m not absolutely sure. I’d suggest that I and others like me could be forgiven for assuming that the entity against which the Jacobites were rebelling was England, or Scotland (i.e. some other Scottish faction), or even the United Kingdom. I’ve added an  tag to the relevant place. 68.203.9.184 (talk) 19:43, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It was the Kingdom of Great Britain, as noted in the infobox immediately to the right.Svejk74 (talk) 23:30, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forces of exactly which government?