Template talk:Cite Quran

message: A nice versatile template! The only thing I would change is 'Al-Qur'an to Qur'an'. MP   (talk) 19:20, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A reasonable suggestion. Will change if no other comments received. → Aktar (talk • contribs) — 20:49, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There should be a template that does not contain the word Qu'ran but rather Surah, to be used in sentences like "the Quran refers to ... in surah x:y.", similar to the current example 10. Str1977 (talk) 19:39, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: More flexible would be something analogous to , which gives the numbers and the link, without any word.  It also for some reason suppresses the 'external link' glyph, which can make for a tidier page.  Jheald 17:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

text: This has been the consensus to-date in order to clarify that the quotation is from the Qur'an (which is more widely understood than Surah). Where the context requires it, you can specify "expand=no" to suppress the word "Qur'an". → AA (talk) — 17:40, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Change Al-Qur'an to Qur'an ?

message: Upgraded the template codes to use shorter form of parameter name, and their values name, like instead of using "expand=no", now "b=n" or "begin=no" can be also used. Also keeping backward compatibility for the previous functions/results. See the Optional Parameter paragrapgh above to see the new features. --Tarikash 23:56, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Upgraded Jan 22, 2008 

message: How can one get rid of the square brackets surrounding the Qur'an and link when the template is used in superscript format - e.g. . The square brackets do seem annoying and unnecessary. I think the template would look better without the square brackets. Thanks. MP (talk•contribs) 11:31, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion

message: Would an admin please edit this template so that it uses an en-dash (–) instead of a hyphen (-) between verses, i.e.,
:#if:
:  | –
Perhaps this is a problem on related templates as well. Écrasez l'infâme (talk) 20:10, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: . --Random832 (contribs) 20:11, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[en-dash]] (–) required between verses, not a [[hyphen]] (-) 

message: Wow! That was fast. Do you know how to correct this problem?  There appears to be an extraneous line break somewhere because
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is set as:
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Note that the bullets are gone, as if there's an extra carriage return at the beginning of the template. Any idea how to fix this one? Maybe this is the first carriage return after the </noinclude>?
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:<includeonly>{{
should be 
:<includeonly>{{
Just guessing here. Écrasez l'infâme (talk) 21:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Line breaking problem&mdash;perhaps an extra [[carriage return]] in template? 

message: This template imposes quotation marks on the text. Following the Manual of Style strictly, this would prevent its use for presenting block quotations, because they are not supposed to be surrounded by quotation marks (the block formatting is sufficient to mark it as a quotation). See for example LGBT topics and Islam#Qur.27an. I guess the template is mostly used for inline quotations, so a solution would be either (1) explain that it is not supposed to be used to format block quotations (or provide an example illustrating how to use it properly this way), or (2) add an option to suppress the quotation marks.
On a somewhat related note, the documentation doesn't say what use(s) the template is intended for — it should, even if it may seem obvious to the authors. Hairy Dude (talk) 11:28, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotation marks 

message: All of these links in the article on Apostasy in Islam are dead. They auto-forward to cmje.org, which looks like a commercially-parked website. E.g.,  goes to http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/fundamentals/hadithsunnah/bukhari/089.sbt.html#009.089.271 which goes to http://cmje.org/#009.089.271, all of cmje.org gets "Bandwidth Exceeded" error, and the Archive.org page for it looks like commercial-parked site, http://web.archive.org/web/20110627112506/http://www.cmje.org/, with sections for movies, music and DVDs for sale. Benefac (talk) 06:23, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Just noticed this. I think I fixed the problem. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 15:52, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: And they worked last night but now I'm getting the bandwidth error. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 15:54, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Not working?

message: The title of the wikipedia article Quran is styled without the apostrophe, yet this citation template employs it.  makes for inconsistencies within articles that use "Quran" (what appears to be considered the wikipedia WP:COMMONNAME) in prose and also use this template.
possible solutions:  change template to "Quran" or add parameter allowing for either stylings "Quran" or "Qur'an".--96.232.126.111 (talk) 11:00, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: harmonize with Quran's wikipedia article

message: Please also add a parameter for the Sahih International translation which is among the most commonly used English translations. Thanks, Khestwol (talk) 11:08, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a link to it? CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 16:30, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sahih International translation 

message: The Template Cite quran is in category :Category:Islamic text templates which is un-popularized and should be moved to:Category:Quran templates. -- Ibrahim ebi (talk) 19:03, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I did it here but it was in the documentation page. You can edit most of those. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 08:08, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks --Ibrahim ebi (talk) 17:46, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for changing category 

message: MOS:QUOTEMARKS states that straight (or typewriter-style) quotation marks are recommend for use in Wikipedia and that curly (or typographic-style) ones are not recommended. This template creates curly quotation marks which cannot be altered by nit-pickers such as myself, and changing it such that it creates straight ones would presumably automatically bring a great many articles more into line with the Manual of Style. I know this is a very minor cosmetic concern, but could someone who knows how edit the template to make that happen? Thanks. BreakfastJr (talk) 03:32, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: @BreakfastJr:  Done. Good eye for catching that.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 03:48, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: As I pointed out 6 years ago, it should not add quotation marks when used for block quotations because this violates the style guide on quotations. Hairy Dude (talk) 15:58, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've added some guidance for use with block quotations to the documentation, together with two examples. Basically, the template should be put after the quotation (possibly in the second parameter of  using style=nosup), rather than using the quote parameter. Hairy Dude (talk) 16:10, 19 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Straight quotation marks rather than curly ones 

message: This template is used on Ali in the Quran, and seems to be producing an unusual error. I am not sure how to describe it so please check the article and look at the Quranic quotations. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 21:10, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems that the template doesn't deal well with line breaks in the first or second parameter; I have no idea how to fix that in the template – if the line breaks are removed from the invocation of the template in Ali in the Quran, the errors disappear. Further, I think that the parameters related to translators (, , ), which are not supported by quran.com, have to be removed from the template code. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:54, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the advice. I removed the line breaks, but have not decided what to do about the translation problem. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 12:21, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unusual error 

message: The USC website is back online with URL format such as http://www.usc.edu/org/cmje/religious-texts/quran/verses/007-qmt.php#007.026
Although Perseus offers the same translations, USC seems to be preferable, for a couple of reasons. It displays translations by default, without requiring further clicks. Based on a comment elsewhere, some readers appear to be confused by the Perseus layout. It also makes it easier to see the preceding and following verses. Perseus has the potential advantage of showing the original for those who can read it. Unfortunately, unlike virtually every other Arabic text of the Quran out there, this version seems to have undergone no proof reading, and perhaps every other line I've checked contained some badly mangled words. Eperoton (talk) 20:27, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: For the background here.... I had contacted the professor who manages this project, who forwarded me to the dean of USC. The dean gave me a long answer, which I will skip. He indicated, at the end, that they will get on it as soon as they have funds or this summer. So, they got it back. He kept his word, which is nice! I have no issues if  or someone wants to switch it back to USC, assuming the USC site is fully working (Quran, Hadiths, etc), and if others too concur USC would be better. I am still working on getting this all on the Wikisource. That way wiki sister projects can host the three public domain scholarly translations as a public resource. Ms Sarah Welch (talk) 21:13, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for the background and for your efforts, . Eperoton (talk) 21:32, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  USC is back on 

message: Add Category:Quran templates to the <noinclude> block. Ibadibam (talk) 01:01, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 04:17, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 14 July 2018 

message: Please add TemplateData for VisualEditor compatibility. – Batreeq  (Talk) (Contribs) 02:41, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done:  is usually not required for edits to the documentation, categories, or interlanguage links of templates using a documentation subpage. Use the 'edit' link at the top of the green "Template documentation" box to edit the documentation subpage. — JJMC89 (T·C) 04:26, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 13 August 2018 

message: Add an option to avoid linking the word "Quran" please so we can satisfy MOS:REPEATLINK while using this template without omitting the word "Quran" entirely. This is useful in almost all articles which quote the Quran, as Islam is built on multiple sources which use numbered verses and not the Quran only, such as Kitab al-Kafi, Sahih al-Bukhari, even in some cases the Old Testament can and is quoted by both Muslim and non-Muslim scholars. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 06:01, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: if you have a change ready to go, please put it in Template:Cite Quran/sandbox then reactivate the edit request.  If you want someone else to work on it they can follow up here. — xaosflux Talk 12:50, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I got it to work in the sandbox:   . Please fulfill my request. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 13:21, 11 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: If implemented, please update the documentation. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 01:08, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sure, I have no problem udpating the documentation once this is implemented. Thank you for reverting the premature close of  as well. I hope this request can be closed soon so I can make articles conform to MOS:REPEATLINK like they ought to as said above. Psiĥedelisto (talk) 11:18, 13 December 2018 (UTC)

text: Done — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:39, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 11 December 2018 

message: The template is not working as it should. When I enter the translator tag where I do not want the "Translated by" expression be shown (that is, |tn=), then the resulting link never links to the appropriate translation, only to the original Arabic version.
In other words, in this line:
:|http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2002.02.000{{#switch:
please add the switch

so that it looks like this (tested in sandbox):
:|http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2002.02.000{{#switch: Vicky van Dal (talk) 14:22, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 00:38, 21 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 20 November 2019 

message: Quran verse translations on some pages are sourced from university websites (tufts.edu is used on many verses in the Al-An'am page) instead of a website dedicated to Quran translations like Quran.com or Quran Corpus.
Wakemeup38 (talk) 02:34, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sourcing Quran 

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Hello everyone, this template needs to be updated, because it contains old translations, and should be linked to IslamAwakened instead of Perseus Digital Library, because IslamAwakened contains MUCH more English translations than any other website from different Muslim and non-Muslim sources.
Here are some of the modern English translations that should be added:
* Ali Ünal
* Nurettin Uzunoğlu
* Saheeh International or HERE
* Royal Aal al-Bayt Institute
* Nazeer Ahmed
* Talal Itani
Musharraf Hussain & Syed Vickar Ahamed translations are important as well, but I don't have direct links to their translations.
I would like to know your opinions and suggestions on this matter. Thanks in advance and best regards.--TheEagle107 (talk) 11:06, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It should just be connected to IslamAwakened. ~𝓐𝓭𝓲𝓰𝓪𝓫𝓻𝓮𝓴 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓕𝓲𝓻𝓼𝓽~Contact  12:37, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi I have the following thoughts. 1. The encyclopaedia does not necessarily need to connect to many translations; it is sufficient for it to link to well-accepted and widely used versions. 2. The Perseus Digital Library carries very clear statements about copyright, whereas it’s not clear to me what the copyright status of the versions used on IslamAwakened is. Wikipedia should not be linking to sites where copyright is not clear. 3. The IslamAwakened website appears to be maintained by a couple of committed volunteers but such sites are not always long-lived or stable.  The Perseus site is supported by a university so we can be pretty sure it’s not going anywhere. I have no other opinions on the proposal at this time.  Thank you for pinging me. Mccapra (talk) 20:10, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  I concur with the suggestion to link the template to IslamAwakened -- it truly contains many translations. I'd suggest to also include Wahiduddin's translation in the list. Thanks. Cabolitæ (talk) 09:37, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

text: Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. – Jonesey95 (talk) 13:39, 19 May 2021 (UTC)

text: It only includes Sunni-leaning translations and is therefore biased. ~𝓐𝓭𝓲𝓰𝓪𝓫𝓻𝓮𝓴 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓕𝓲𝓻𝓼𝓽~Contact  16:23, 22 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: IslamAwakened.com is a NON-SECTARIAN website dedicated to ALL people, Muslims (and non-Muslims) of all denominations and faiths, to making the Qur'an accessible to the English-speaking public through a big collection of multiple translations which will provide a deeper understanding of the verses better than any other site. IslamAwakened also link, by verse, to related page(s) at Corpus.Quran.com - an excellent tool for those ready to pursue the actual Arabic words of the Qur'an. Anyway, I hope there will be a consensus of any kind that will contribute to the development of this template soon.--TheEagle107 (talk) 05:37, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I was replying to the user who suggested Quran.com, I know IslamAwakened is unbiased. ~𝓐𝓭𝓲𝓰𝓪𝓫𝓻𝓮𝓴 𝓽𝓱𝓮 𝓕𝓲𝓻𝓼𝓽~Contact  13:02, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

text: I advocate using Quran.com over Perseus. Yes it uses Sunni translations, but that does not mean it is "biased." The vast majority of Muslims are Sunnis. Both Perseus and IslamAwakened are full of Sunni translations and Perseus only has Sunni translations, but nobody rebuked it for being "biased." I vote for Quran.com which is more stable, more advanced with more features, many translations, and growing. DivineReality (talk) 15:31, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update to add modern translations 

message: If this template should only be used inside ref tags, why is it in superscript with square brackets? They're not at all necessary in a footnote and frankly look weird. Hairy Dude (talk) 15:19, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange formatting