Talk:Wudang tai chi

message: So far, the article seems to be based entirely on primary sources for its info, that is, sourced entirely by the subject(s) of the article. That means most of the info in the article can be challenged as it stands, rendering it basically a stub. Are there any secondary sources that anyone knows of? --Bradeos Graphon (talk) 03:42, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secondary sources? 

message: Additionally to the other remarks, wudang taijiquan or t'ai Chi  is a style of martial arts developed over a 500 year period in the wudang mountians in hubei province, also called taihe mountian. It is often mentioned in competition with shaolin boxing. Some claim it predates the Chen and Yang styles of martial arts which belong to warlord families/clan's/societies, while Wudang martuial arts is religious in origin and internal organisation (and hence the association with daoism). 
The name wudang in this case is a borrowed name leaning on the reputation of martial societies in Hubei, but not having any form of formal or informal relationship with it. that is also the reason why no other secondary sources can be found. this argument by the way does not wish to argue the reputation of the people involved in the style from Hongkong. It only wants to support a solution for subfiling the article under taijiquan as a whole (style-wise) but separating it from secular and religious internalized martial arts as to clarify similarities in names.(YouLiOu (talk) 06:13, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  authenticity 

message: It has been discussed at length here: Talk:T'ai chi ch'uan#Romanization / Naming Revisited. Unfortunately the consensus was not reached to move to pinyin (taijiquan), as most other Chinese martial arts have done. This is because although most well learned practitioners and professionals of the martial art refer to it in the pinyin form, the majority of references to it are still in the Wade-Giles form. Consensus was thus reached to at least use the accurate Wade-Giles form, if at all, since the spelling "tai chi chuan" is too ambiguous as in turn one could, for example, also write "chi" (for "qi") instead of "ch'i", and making it appear to be the "chi" in the name (tai chi chuan), etc. This consensus has allowed for correctness while following WP guidelines of adopting the most common usage.In turn, in all related articles it's to be made immediately clear that "t'ai chi ch'uan" is interchangeable with "taijiquan", e.g. writing "t'ai chi ch'uan (taijiquan)" or "taijiquan (t'ai chi ch'uan"), while on the t'ai chi ch'uan page, a write-up is going to be made to reflect that officially, taijiquan is preferred. For the sake of avoiding unnecessary fragmentation & to maintain consistency, all the family styles & other sub-styles are being renamed to "t'ai chi ch'uan" as well. The shift of common usage is slowing moving toward pinyin and in time the change will be made to it, but for now the current usage in it's correct form is what seems best to use and, of course, to avoid confusion through naming fragmentation, it's best to have all sub-pages in-line with the main t'ai chi ch'uan page. I hope this doesn't upset anyone and you all understand the necessity for the current position that has been taken. InferKNOX (talk) 21:13, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to "Wudang t'ai chi ch'uan"