Talk:Australian Capital Territory

message: I think off the top of my head the lowest elevation in the ACT is where the Murrumbidge flows out to NSW. Not sure of it's elevation though. --Martyman-(talk) 05:05, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No Jervis bay is not technically par tof the ACT any more. --Martyman-(talk) 06:00, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I think I got 429m from one of my paper maps I am sure the source you have is better. --Martyman-(talk) 06:01, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lowest Elevation in Infobox 

message: I am just adding a comment The ACT does not have the full Federal representation accorded to a State to the governance section. That is a NPOV comment and it is notable. For example, the District of Columbia (in a similar situation to the ACT) has an entire section on the less than full Federal representation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/District_of_Columbia#Representation_in_federal_government This is very much the type of information that someone from a country other than Australia (who does not have the fine detail knowledge of the Senate) would feel it helpful to have.Sad mouse 03:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Senate was dreated as a States' House, to protect WA and the other small states against Victoria and NSW. The introduction of Territory Senators went against this whole notion and was challanged twice in the High Court. As the ACT is not a State and was not an original State if anything it is overrepresented in the Senate. Xtra 04:08, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Additionally the ACT is vastly different from D.C. as the ACT is represented in both houses with voting members, unlike D.C. and if people want to find out about the Senate they can click on the link. Xtra 04:10, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That is the why. I understand that. Just because there is a reason does not mean that it should be hidden. As I already said, the DC article spends an entire paragraph on it, and you constantly revert half a sentence. Your removal of a relevant fact of Australian politics in regards to the ACT is POV. Sad mouse 04:12, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

text: You don't actually understand NPOV, do you? I'll leave this article to someone else to fix up, someone that you don't stalk around reverting. Sad mouse 04:18, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Being a Westminster system, parliamentarians are just sheep lead by their party, since there is only 2 senate seats, one will go to each big party.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.161.0.162 (talk) 11:04, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The ACT does not have equal Federal representation. 

message: What happened to the coat of arms image? According to a comment on Talk:Coat of arms of Canberra there is no ACT coat of arms. --Astrokey44 10:43, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically it is the coat of arms of the city of Canberra; I have no idea what happened to the image.  --Peta 03:52, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are no logs for it on Wikipedia. An image with the same name (perhaps same image) was deleted on the 1 January 2007 on Commons though.--cj | talk 04:14, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have loaded another image. But this page should probably not display any coat of arms, since the ACT doesnt have one. Left a message on Template talk:Australia state or territory about it --Astrokey44 10:47, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. - 52 Pickup 13:42, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  coat of arms 

message: The area in the infobox was completely wrong. I corrected it from this source: http://www.ga.gov.au/education/facts/dimensions/areadime.htm
It doesn't say anything about percentage of water and so on, so I had to leave that blank.--Barend 14:04, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unforunately, leaving it blank led to some funny behaviour. So, using the given percentage and total area, I've calculated some new values. If this data is inaccurate, it is only a temporary solution and the land/water are fields can be hidden if really necessary. - 52 Pickup 13:52, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  area in infobox 

message: I've given some rationale for changing the way we currently use the ACT page (currently disambig), and was hoping to get some consensus for change, so I was hoping regular editors of this page might comment at talk:ACT.--YbborTalk 11:31, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed reworking of ACT & disambig pages 

message: Are the governmental borders of the ACT and Canberra coterminus?  If so, this is a very important fact that needs to be made known in the opening paragraph. --Criticalthinker (talk) 10:46, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Villages such as Hall, Australian Capital Territory and Tharwa, Australian Capital Territory are part of the ACT but are not part of Canberra.  For most practical intents and purposes they may as well be part of Canberra, but technically they're not.  --  JackofOz (talk) 12:39, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

text: In terms of local government, then yes, Canberra and the ACT are the same entity. The ACT government provides local government services as a unitary body to all of the ACT, including the outlying towns. There is no separate "City of Canberra" local government authority covering only the Canberra section of the territory. The :Australian Bureau of Statistics makes a differentiation between the two. For example, the ACT had 324,034 residents at the 2006 census, while Canberra had only 322,036 residents. Thus, according to the ABS 2006 census, 1,998 people lived in the ACT but not in Canberra. Make of all that what you will! -- Mattinbgn\talk 12:53, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like Mttinbgn got what I was asking.  If they are coterminous as far as governance, this should be made known.  I know that the actual urban area doesn't feel the boundaries of the territory, but the "municipal" boundaries, if you will are the same as that of the ACT's territorial boundaries.  They are one and the same. --Criticalthinker (talk) 07:32, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's because the government of the ACT governs the whole of the ACT, not just Canberra.  The boundaries of the ACT are fixed and precise; but exactly where "Canberra" starts and ends is fuzzy, and not defined anywhere as far as I know.  Is it defined by the outer suburbs in any direction?  Maybe, but I couldn't say for sure.  It's fluid anyway; if they decided to build some more suburbs to the south of what is currently the most southern suburb in Tuggeranong, then Canberra would expand.  --  JackofOz (talk) 08:21, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, Mattinbgn understood what I was asking exactly.  And, again, I was simply saying that Canberra and the ACT are coterminous as far as local government is concerned.  I'm not talking about whether Canberra fills the entire area.  Anyone that can look at a map knows that's not true.  But, as far as government goes, ACT and Canberra are one and the same. --Criticalthinker (talk) 01:40, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually disagree with that.  The ACT, which includes Canberra, is governed by the ACT Government.  No argument there.  But that's not the same as saying they're the same thing, or are coterminous.  A person who lives in Tharwa or Tidbinbilla would never say they live in Canberra, because they don't, but they still live in the ACT and have the same government as Canberra does.   "Coterminous" is a geographical term, not commensurate with "governance", a political/governmental term.  Before the 1989 split-off, would you have said that Jervis Bay was "coterminous for governance purposes" with the ACT?  That would make as much sense as what I think you're getting at here.  --  JackofOz (talk) 09:00, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Australian Capital Territory = Canberra

message: I noted the mention of Farrer in this article which sits oddly in the first few paras
One homestead of special historical interest was Lambrigg, near Tharwa. This was the place in which William Farrer developed the rust-resistant Federation wheat strain that had a major beneficial effect on Australia's wheat industry.
While he made an important contribution this was to the national wheat industry not the history of the ACT per se. He died in 1906 which predates the founding of Canberra. Anyway he is covered in the accompanying history article   05:02, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  William farrer has been removed 

message: This article should be a summary of the ACT and ideally the 4 (5?) sections should be of equal length. Hopefully this change is greeted positively Chrisfromcanberra (talk) 10:29, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  I have moved some of the more detailed content under History to the dedicated History Page 

message: The opening paragraph states that the ACT is regularly referred to as Australia's "Bush Capital".  I live in Melbourne Australia, and am an active follower of Australian politics and have never hear this term used.  I suggest this statement be removed or an external reference provided.  Maybe this is a term used by people in Canberra?  or Sydney??  but it's news to me.Pugsworth (talk) 06:14, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, yes, often by greens as a reason not to build stuff we actually need.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phil Ian Manning (talk • contribs) 00:00, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I am a resident of Canberra and have spent more than 35 years here. I can assure you that the phrase 'Bush capital' has been used for all that time and long before I came here. When the site for Canberra was chosen, coastal locations and existing cities were not considered—hence the term 'bush' capital. --Greenmaven (talk) 04:42, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Bush Capital??

message: this edit resulted in weird syntax appearing.  I've stabbed wildly at trying to address the anonymous' concern, using 'Vice-regal representative' as mentioned at Governor-General of Australia.  #Head_of_state may be of use. John Vandenberg (chat) 10:17, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Viceroy 

message: The article says: 
:The ACT also has a small strip of territory around the southern end of the Beecroft Peninsula, which is the northern headland of Jervis Bay.
with the footnote
:The area of ACT land on the Beecroft Peninsula is clearly shown in the New South Wales Roads Directory (Map 177, grid ref. S 2), which is published by the National Roads and Motoring Association and is based on NSW Department of Lands maps. Several maps showing the boundaries of the ACT exclave on the Beecroft Peninsula are available online, for example: http://www.exploroz.com/Places/24482/NSW/Longnose_Point.aspx
Can anyone confirm this? I have various maps (e.g. from the ABS or the ACT) that "clearly show" all of Beecroft Pensinsula as NSW territory. I think we need to rely on legal definitions for this.
—Felix the Cassowary 13:22, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, waddaya know.  Beecroft Peninsula seems to have the story.  Ask 10,000 ACT residents about this, and I'd guess you'd get 9,999 blank stares.  --  Jack of Oz [your turn] 01:07, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

text: But see also Talk:Beecroft Peninsula.  An editor foreshadowed he'd be changing a major error of fact by the end of January 2011, but has not done so yet.  --  Jack of Oz [your turn] 01:15, 13 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Beecroft Peninsula has now been amended and it's clear that the entire Beecroft Peninsula is part of NSW. The erroneous idea that the southern tip of the Peninsula is part of the ACT comes from confusion between the concept of land owned by the Commonwealth government, as opposed to land that is under Commonwealth jurisdiction. Maps that show the southern tip as part of the ACT are simply inaccurate.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rithom (talk • contribs) 06:48, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Territory near Jervis Bay 

message: There is essentially nothing in this article about the ACT's history, but there is an article called History of the Australian Capital Territory that is linked to in the "See also" section. That article should be considered a sub-article of this one, with a section here written according to Wikipedia:Summary style. That should probably be done by someone with some sensitivity to what is actually important, but I would recommend a paragraph (or at least sentence or two) on Pre-European history, another about the area's selection as the capital, and another paragraph or two about early relations with the federal government and moves toward self-governance. -Rrius (talk) 03:01, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: I have moved the commentary on gay marriage to the History of the Australian Capital Territory wiki page. It is a more appropriate spot to place such commentary as opposed to second paragraph of the main article. Libstooge 01 (talk) 13:11, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Gay Marriage Commentary

message: As stated (and cited) in the article, the ACT has no vice-regal post like Governor or Administrator. The article ACT Legislative Assembly makes the same claim and cites yet another source, a government website regarding the ACT Self-Government Act. On this basis, I have removed the Administrator from the infobox. I note that the infobox also says the ACT is a "constitutional monarchy", but is that quite correct if the ACT has no vice-regal post? If that statement is to remain, it should be cited from a reliable source. Origin238 (talk) 02:53, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The form of government in the ACT is "constitutional monarchy" because the ACT is part of the Commonwealth of Australia, whose form of government is constitutional monarchy.  That seems to me to be plain enough in the article.  It is so in all of the State articles, as well as that for the NT.  The Norfolk Island article is different and maybe that needs to be brought into line.  Wikiain (talk) 03:44, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The main difference between the ACT and the other states is that the ACT has no vice-regal post representing the crown. The federal government has the Governor-General, each state has a Governor, and NT has an Administrator, all of which are representatives of the Queen. The ACT has no equivalent post. Even Norfolk Island has an Administrator who represents the crown. It could be that the ACT is still a "constitutional monarchy" anyway; I don't know. But I will remove the Administrator from the infobox because the article explicitly says that the ACT doesn't have one. If someone really wants to have an Administrator there, perhaps they can come here to form a consensus. Origin238 (talk) 07:07, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the ACT a constitutional monarchy? 

message: It's stated in the intro that the region was known as the "Federal Capital Territory" until 1938; unfortunately, this is unsourced, and I can find no law renaming it. In fact, the law establishing the territory  specifies, "The Territory shall be known as the Australian Capital Territory." So can the article's statement be corroborated, or is it somehow wrong?
Similarly, History of the Australian Capital Territory says, "The Jervis Bay Territory Acceptance Act 1915 and the New South Wales Seat of Government Surrender Act 1915 created a Territory of Jervis Bay, which was administered as part of the Federal Capital Territory and with all laws of the Territory applicable.", but the actual text of the acceptance act uses the term "Australian Capital Territory" 14 times, and doesn't even contain the word "Federal." --Golbez (talk) 04:21, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm, this may explain it:  says the previous act was amended to add the name, and I guess all the version I'm finding are of the amended version. --Golbez (talk) 04:27, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Federal Capital Territory? 

message: A working version of the table is viewable at the Climate section of
https://en.wikivoyage.org/wiki/Canberra/
Text below was made visible by deletion of initial double open curly brackets and final double close curly brackets.  Those will likely need to be re-added for table to work.    
Perhaps calls a template available in Wikivoyage that has been deleted in Wikipedia?    
Climate
| units = Metric
| janhigh = 29
| febhigh = 28
| marhigh = 25
| aprhigh = 20
| mayhigh = 16
| junhigh = 12
| julhigh = 12
| aughigh = 14
| sephigh = 16
| octhigh = 20
| novhigh = 24
| dechigh = 27
| janlow = 14
| feblow = 14
| marlow = 12
| aprlow = 7
| maylow = 4
| junlow = 1
| jullow = 0
| auglow = 1
| seplow = 4
| octlow = 7
| novlow = 10
| declow = 12
| janprecip = 60
| febprecip = 51
| marprecip = 56
| aprprecip = 49
| mayprecip = 48
| junprecip = 38
| julprecip = 52
| augprecip = 47
| sepprecip = 65
| octprecip = 62
| novprecip = 59
| decprecip = 46
| description = The Australian government provides a seven-day weather forecast Canberra 
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Ocdcntx (talk • contribs) 17:29, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Here's a climate template from Wikivoyage, if someone can get it to work 

message: On what authority is the claim that the denonym for ACT residents "Canberrans" made. I have lived in Canberra for the best part of 20 years and have never heard it so used. Within Canberra, the term refers exclusively to people from Canberra. If a reference is made to the group on the news, local or national, the term would, without exception, be "ACT residents". As far as I'm aware, there is no demonym for the ACT. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.112.5.103 (talk) 14:33, 27 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Demonym

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message: According to 99-year lease, Due to the influence of the ideas of Henry George at the time the Australian Capital Territory (ACT) was established in the early 20th century, all land in the ACT is held under 99-year leases, the first of which will expire in 2023.  I can find no mention of these 99 year leases or 2023 mentioned within this article about the ACT.  You would imagine everyone should be freaking the f out over this. Agvulpine (talk) 09:36, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This sounds like just a discussion rather than an article improvement. But perhaps our article needs to cover the facts. I think that some law was passed several years ago to stop this freaking out. One ref: Graeme Bartlett (talk) 11:02, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be good to have something in the article about it. HiLo48 (talk) 21:34, 25 July 2023 (UTC)

text: I've added some details using a city council source. This is of some interest to me personally, given the age of my house. I'm wondering how big the charge will be in a couple of years time! Nobody is freaking out over the prospect of losing their houses, though; it's just not an issue here. --Pete (talk) 00:18, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  All properties in the ACT to automatically become ownerless after 99-year leases expires? 

message: The article refers to the ACT as the "second smallest mainland state or territory by population". This is confusing, if we are only including self-governing self-governing territories, then Tasmania is larger than the ACT and hence the word "mainland" is redundant. If we are including non-self-governing territories, then this is simply incorrect as the Jarvis Bay Territory is smaller than both the ACT and the NT, and then the ACT is the third smallest mainland state or territory.
Either way, the phrase "the second smallest mainland state or territory by population" has so many qualifiers to basically be meaningless. Marcus M Marcus (talk) 09:22, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The second smallest mainland state or territory by population"