Talk:Proposals for a Jewish state

message: :"Politically, it was also considered desirable to create a Soviet Jewish homeland as an ideological alternative to Zionism and the theory put forward by Socialist Zionists such as Ber Borochov that the Jewish Question could be resolved by creating a Jewish territory in Palestine."
So a Soviet Jewish homeland was an alternative to a Jewish homeland in Palestine, and a Jewish homeland in Palestine was proposed by Socialist Zionists? -Pgan002 (talk) 03:16, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ambiguous sentence in "Jewish Autonomous Oblast" 

message: :"By the 1930s, a massive propaganda campaign was underway to induce more Jewish settlers to move there. Some of these ...  Other methods bordered on the bizarre. In one instance, leaflets promoting Birobidzhan were dropped from an airplane over a Jewish neighborhood in Belarus." 
Why is this bizarre as a propaganda method? -Pgan002 (talk) 03:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing sentence in "Jewish Autonomous Oblast" 

message: In 1938 Mussolini intended:
:He would like to solve the Zionist question by transferring the Zionists from Palestine to Ethiopia. Then the Arabs in Palestine would be let alone and international capital would be brought in to develop the Empire. 
In 1940:
:In England, the Manchester Guardian reported that the Axis powers plan to turn Palestine over to the jurisdiction of the Vatican and transport Palestine's Jewish population to Ethiopia.
:Under the plan, said the Guardian, the Pope will care for the holy places in Palestine, let Italy run the country.
Can you find how developed the Italian plans for Jews in Ethiopia were?
--Error (talk) 00:55, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Error: I don't know about "developed plans", but this certainly looks like a notable topic per this remarkably thorough piece by Richard Pankhurst - I guess our article would be called Jewish settlement in Italian East Africa to parallel Jewish settlement in the Japanese Empire.--Pharos (talk) 19:57, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Good catch! Your title is right since there is a mention of Somalia, though I would change it to Jewish settlement proposals in Italian East Africa, as there seems that, unlike Shanghai, actual settlement was reduced, but there should be redirects from Jewish settlement In Italian Abyssinia, Jewish settlement in Abyssinia and the like. --Error (talk) 20:58, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethiopia 

message: Anyone thought about the island of Cyprus.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Success123$ (talk • contribs) 19:23, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Cyprus

message: 10 Jewish Homelands Outside Palestine has a map including several of these proposals and mentions Nai Juda in Central America as proposed by Joseph Otmar Hefter. --Error (talk) 00:56, 3 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Central America 

message: Big parts of this article are poorly written, unsourced and full of dubious claims with original research.Tritomex (talk) 03:28, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Article is full of original research

message: As far as I can tell, "corporate right" is a legal expression that refers to a legal right of a corporation. I don't see any use of it like this. It is also unsourced. Zerotalk 13:21, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "the corporate right to [[self-determination]]" ? 

message: Section contains a list of places with high Jewish populations... Does this constitute self-governance? I'm not so sure if being a Jewish mayor in a Jewish town counts... If so, Hampstead, Quebec might qualify as "Jewish self-governance" which seems a bit silly to me. Toomuchcuriosity (talk) 14:52, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I cleaned up the section. Please let me know if you would like to see changes to my edits or additional changes to the section. Toomuchcuriosity (talk) 18:46, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Weird list entries in other attempts of Jewish self-governance throughout history

message: This section seems to elevate rhetoric to serious proposals. It is dubious to claim that the statements by Ahmadinejad and Thomas are serious proposals. Saying something like "let Jews make a state in Europe so that they can leave Palestine" is a statement about Jews leaving Palestine, and does not seriously propose the establishment of a Jewish state in Europe. The section considers this rhetoric to amount to serious proposals and bloats the page and possibly violates text-source integrity.
I propose deleting the section. Please let me know whether you support or disagree. Toomuchcuriosity (talk) 19:13, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unnecessary section: Proposals for alternative Jewish homelands and anti-Zionism