Talk:Leonid Stadnyk

message: Xi Shun (China, b. 1951), measured 7 ft 8.95 in (2 m 36.1 cm) as a result of six measurements taken on January 15, 2005, at Chifeng City Hospital, Inner Mongolia, China.
Beating the previous holder Radhouane Charbib (Tunisia) by just 2 mm (0.07 in), Xi Shun claims that his height was normal for his age until he was 16. As a comparison, his father stood at 5 ft 10.8 in (1.8 m) and his mother was 5 ft 2.8 in (1.6 m) tall.
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الثاقب (WiseSabre| talk) 06:28, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not if Ukrainian doors are the same size as a standard door in my country. It's a dumb thing to stand next to if you are exaggerating your height. Osomec 04:59, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tallest man - living 

message: Stadnik has been making a living out of his claim for years but always refuses measurements. As someone over 7 feet tall myself and looking at him next to people in photos and in reference to the doorways and household objects I would say he is anywhere from 7' 0" (212-214 cm) to 7' 6" (228-230 cm) and probably right around my height of 7' 3" (221 cm). He most definitely is nowhere near 8' 4".
:Not if Ukrainian doors are the same size as a standard door in my country. It's a dumb thing to stand next to if you are exaggerating your height. Osomec 04:59, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fraud alert 

message: Of course this doesn't count as enough proof for an encyclopedia, but everyone's free to make their opinions based on this image someone came up with. On the left Robert Wadlow within a year from his death (was 265 cm/8 ft 8½ in on his 21st birthday and 268 cm/8 ft 9½ in on his 22nd), and his father (180 cm/5 ft 11 in). On the right Stadnyk with his mother (152 cm/5 ft according to some news articles, like this). --Anshelm '77 (talk) 15:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo comparison 

message: I came to the conclusion that Leonid Stadnyk, though not 8 feet 4 inches tall, is still "probably" about as tall as Charbib and Xi Shun are.
I was able to get a photo of Stadnyk standing next to a Mr. Gerd Klopper (German)who is (178cm)5 ft 10 inches in his shoes. based on pixle height and cm height ratios,and after 5 careful measurements I arrived at a stature of around 242 cm (7 ft 11) for stadnyk in his shoes. If we subtract 2.5 inches from the heel, (he wears big soles)than Mr. Stadnyk is probably 7 ft 8 to 7 ft 9 inches tall, without shoes on.
:It appears you are correct. PenguinJockey (talk) 19:02, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  My independent photographic analysis of Stadnyk's height 

message: I've just realised that his name isn't Leonid Stadnik, It's Leonid StadnYk. This article will have to have all the names changed to this spelling and make a redirect leading with this spelling to the current article unless the page is moved.
ok, but it doesn't matter what you think, because you're the only person who thinks he's not 8'4", while all of the news casts and even the Guiness Book of World Records know his height, but he refuses to be included in the book.
A foot doesn't make as big a difference as you think, at that height anyway.
::It makes a *HUGE* difference - yes, even at that height. 67.170.176.203 08:55, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  One subject at a time, please. Who says the spelling is incorrect? Why was the page moved? Guiness give his name as Stadnik. His own website gives it as Stadnik. Surely the only empirically correct spelling is Стадник? Now we have an article called  Leonid Stadnyk about a man called Leonid Stadnik. This is silly. Please justify the spelling and change spellings throughout the article, or move it back to Leonid Stadnik. TheMadBaron 15:23, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm... and still it hasn't been moved back... Mathmo Talk 16:55, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I presume it hasn't been moved back because the Ukrainian alphabet distinguishes и from і, and the Ukrainian transliteration used on Wikipedia uses /y/ for Ukrainian и. The Ukrainian alphabet isn't the same as the Russian alphabet, and thus there's no reason why the transliteration systems for the two must be the same. If the Ukrainian spelling of the name is correct, then Stadnyk is the appropriate transliteration. Thefamouseccles 05:08, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name is incorrect 

message: Greetings,
In the new 2008 Guinness edition (see p. 12, p. 64), they decided to accept Leonid Stadnik because he was measured by Prof. Michael Besser of the UK. They concluded that, even if not exactly 8 ft 5.5 inches he would still be taller than 7 ft. 9 inches. However, they did wish that he would allow them to measure him 'exactly'.Ryoung122 08:04, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've seen this concern in the past. But there are easy answer to it - in contrast to Olympic records that can last for 3 seconds only and after this it will be impossible to independently validate them - human height last for much longer. In case if Stadnyk is not height that he actually claimed - it's needed only one person to visit him and debunk his claim - up to date there is no such information. --TAG 07:37, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Guinness Change-of-Face

message: There was a TLC television special on him, which provides his whole life story, and even has updated information. I watched it and it turns out that he doesn't need surgery. I don't have a link on hand, but it is a good watch if you want to know about him. --Jay(Talk) 00:46, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TLC special 

message: Besser has denied ever measuring him. But he says he did meet him in 2006. Leonid also has said that he does not like how Guinness has publicized him, and would rather remain private. --71.222.54.25 03:58, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only evidence of Stadnik's height is a certificate from the Ukrainian Book of Records, which measured him at 2.53 meters (or 8'4"). Using this citation you can still claim he is highest. --TAG 22:41, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Shoes is not an issue then you need to get into doors. You simply reduce your height by standing not-fully vertically. He is simply not at full height then moving inside house. --TAG 00:26, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stadnyk was NOT measured by Dr. Michael Besser 

message: Note that one of the links above gives his age as 38 (article date August 13, 2007), and later it's said "On Aug. 5, he called to wish Stadnik [sic] a happy birthday." This would put his date of birth on August 5, 1969, and it's the most accurate age I've seen for him yet. Previously I've seen his age given at 34 in 2004 and 37 in 2007 – inconsistent with 1971, but not 1969. Though I have seen ages consistent with 1971 too.
Also, I've bought Guinness World Records 2008 (Finnish edition) today, and they say (page 64, may or may not be the same in other editions) that "Xi Shun" (Bao Xishun) is still the world's tallest officially documented living man, but based on his claimed 20+ cm advantage over the current record and Michael Besser's testimony, they felt confident enough to include him in the book even before his height was properly verified. Guinness also expressed their wish for him to submit to be measured by them, but judging from the above article – and others alike – that's not likely going to happen.
--Anshelm '77 19:30, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of birth 

message: Now that Guinness has withdrawn his record status , as noted already in an added final sentence, please can someone re-write the whole thing to give a clear overview of his claim - and that is apparently all it is. Earthlyreason (talk) 10:32, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time to re-write the article 

message: Greetings,
To clear up some misconceptions:
1. Guinness World Records never officially measured Leonid Stadnyk.
2. The 2008 edition stated that he "appeared" to be taller than Li Xishun but this was never officialized--it was more of a "pending" situation.
3. The 2009 edition has returned the title to Li Xishun.
Ryoung122 02:49, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Guinness status

message: Can someone who has access to the original article referenced here please correct the 5cm / 0.79in discrepancy?  Thanks! LiberalFascist (talk) 17:07, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 5cm != 0.79in

message: In 2007, the Guiness was by Leonid Stadnyk, attested by a officaly first measuring his height of 8,5 feet (2,57 m). And gigantism expert Prof. Michael Besser has attested this height already in 2006.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.7.117.33 (talk) 17:43, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not true, he has never been officially measured, or measured at all, by Guinness.Ryoung122 05:05, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The tallest living man 

message: Why are there two different years for his birth? --Ameki (talk) 21:18, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Because I don't think anyone actually knows for sure. I've searched for quite a while and not been able to find a reliable source for his birth year, so I'll rewrite it to cover both. Manning (talk) 05:11, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Also I was unable to find a ref for the August 5 birthdate - all of the refs I could find were quoting WP.Manning (talk) 05:12, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth 

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