Talk:Menippean satire

message: By northrop frys description of mennipean satire it seems that there are 2 authors which I would list as mennipean, these are zinoviev, who actually calls his characters by the state of mind he wishes to satarize (or laud, in some cases). and wilson has many different viewpoints and character monologues taken to the extreme in his Illuminatus! trilogy. though wilson does dabble in juvenalian satire especcially in the new inquisition. what would suffice as proof to add these to the list of mennipean satirists?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.103.147.236 (talk) 02:15, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Zinoviev and wilson

message: These two articles are about the same subject. Menippeah should redirect here or visa versa. Any comments or suggestions? If not, I will merge Menippeah into Menippean satire.  John Harvey (talk) 13:56, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems to me that "Menippeah" is about a more recent phenomenon, whereas Menippean satire is about a classical era (Greek/Latin) phenomenon.  -- TimNelson (talk) 12:07, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't forget there's also the article Mennipea, which does need to be merged with one of these others. As for the first two articles mentioned for merging: I can't tell how different they are. There does seem to be some overlap, and neither one is so long as to make merging impractical. If you compare the list of examples, there's very little overlap in the texts mentioned, yet both articles reference ancient and modern texts. I'd like to see whether the Menippeah article could be expanded and differentiated more clearly from the Menippean satire article -- perhaps we should devote one to the modern genre and the other to the classical genre? The problem would be how to accommodate Bakhtin into both articles without creating too much repetition. Aristophanes68 (talk) 17:04, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

text: Mennipea is simply a mistake. A citation or two would give the odd invention Menippeah the semblance of some weight. --Wetman (talk) 14:19, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Menippeah vs. Menippean satire 

message: Does anyone know whether there is any explicit connection between Menippean satire and Commedia dell'arte? The line "Such satires deal less with human characters than with the single-minded mental attitudes, or "humours", that they represent: the pedant, the braggart, the bigot, the miser, the quack, the seducer" piqued my interest. -- 201.51.211.130 20:49, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commedia dell'arte 

message: Coming here via a chain of stray references I cannot offer anything useful, except to note that the initial definition:
The genre of Menippean satire is a form of satire, usually in prose, which has a length and structure similar to a novel and is characterized by attacking mental attitudes instead of specific individuals.[1] Other features found in Menippean satire are a rhapsodic nature,[citation needed] a fragmented narrative,[citation needed] the combination of many different targets,[citation needed] and the rapid moving between styles and points of view.[citation needed]
would, for me, be a useful definition of many of Carl Hiassen's novels set in modern Florida, which offer a critique of politics and society.  Can some Menippean scholar who also admits to low-brow reading perhaps add more widely read novels so that those of us who read Menippean crap without knowing it better understand? [[[Special:Contributions/60.242.50.195|60.242.50.195]] (talk) 12:24, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern Menippean novels 

message: Could some one help me with the reference I tried to make to the McLuhan quote I used - I have given the correct reference in the Reference Section but I have not done note 10 correctly. Could someone who knows the system better than me please help and correct my error - thank you Logan1939 (talk) 14:01, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Help!

message: The following text under the Examples section perpetuates a terminologal confusion:
  Elements of the Menippean satire have also been pointed out in the Gospels.[10]
  Later examples include The Consolation of Philosophy of Boethius[11] and 
  The Caesars of Julian the apostate [12]
These examples use the term in its antiquated meaning as 1) an admixture of forms, e.g. prose and poetry, and 2) using allusion or fantastical images.
I suggest that either this text be removed or a section added that clarifies rather than perpetuates the confusion.
This is a prime example of why not to believe everything one reads on Wikipedia, since I discovered it as a an authoritative claim that Böethius’ Consolations
 FredLoney (talk) 14:22, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading post-classical examples