Talk:Michigan State University School of Hospitality Business

message: I have removed the list of alumni, since none of them had either wiki articles or references to reliable sources to back up the claims made. Notable alumni can be added if one of those two conditions are met, but a link to a school website would not suffice. Drmies (talk) 19:49, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: October 2010

message: There are over 9,000 active alumni of the school in nearly every segment of the industry. Notable alumni include:
* Hugh Andrews (BA ’71, MBA ’72) President, International Hospitality Enterprises, Inc.
* Jerry Best[not yet a bluelink, actually points to a different person as of 2015] (BA ’59) President & CEO, Omni Hotels North America
* John Brogan[not yet a bluelink, actually points to a different person as of 2015] (BA ’55) North America Division President, Sheraton Hotels in Hawaii
* Kevin Brown (BA '77) President & Chief Executive Officer, Lettuce Entertain You Enterprises, Inc.
* James Burba (BA '77) President, Burba Hotel Network
* Richard Conti[not yet a bluelink, actually points to a different person as of 2015] (MBA ’76) President and Chief Operating Officer, The Plasencia Group, Inc.
* Dan Darrow (MBA '61) President, The Palm (restaurant) Company
* Jack DeBoer (BA ’52) creator of Residence Inn & Chairman/Chief Executive Officer, Candlewood Suites
* Jim Delligatti (BA '64) inventor of the Big Mac,http://www.reuters.com/article/2007/08/21/us-bigmac-founder-idUSN2028613320070821 owner of 18over 50 McDonalds Restaurants
* Billy "bd" Downs (BA '88) President & Chief Executive Officer, BD's Mongolian Barbeque Restaurants
* Karl Eitel[not yet a bluelink, actually points to a different person -- possibly kinfolk? -- as of 2015] (BA ’51) President, The Broadmoor Hotel
* Marc Gordon (MBA '73), President and Chief Executive Officer Illinois Hotel & Lodging Association
* Richard Helfer (BA ’72) Chairman & CEO, Raffles International
* Philip Hickey, Jr. (BA ’77) Chairman and Chief Executive Officer, RARE Hospitality International, Inc.
* Kenneth Hill[not yet a bluelink, actually points to a different person as of 2015] (BA ’56) President of International Development, Applebee's International, Inc.
* Joel Hiser (BA '73) Chief Executive Officer, Horwath Hospitality & Leisure, LLC
* Robert Johnson[not yet a bluelink, actually points to a different person as of 2015] (BA ’74) President & COO, ClubCorp International
* Fred Kleisner (BA ’66) Chairman & Chief Executive Officer, Wyndham Hotels & Resorts
* Thomas LaTour (BA ’66) Chairman & Chief Executive Officer, Kimpton Hotels & Restaurant Group
* Carl Mottek (BA ’51) President, Hilton Hotels Division
* Patrick Nesbitt Chairman & CEO of Windsor Capital Group, Inc.
* Mary Ann Ramsey (BA '75) Owner & President, Betty Maclean Travel, Inc.
* William Tiefel (BA ’56) President, Marriott Lodging
* John Theuer (BA ’82, MBA ’83) Chief Financial Officer, Panda Restaurant Group, Inc.
* Dr. Terry Umbreit (BA ’63) Director of the School of Hospitality Business Management at Washington State University
* Gerry VanAcker (BA '83) Owner, Au Bon Pain
* Ana Maria Viscasillas (BA '88) President and Chief Executive Officer, Puerto Rico Convention Bureau
* Lou Weckstein (BA '58) President, John Q. Hammons Hotels, Inc.
* William Weidner (BA ’67, MBA ’68) President & Chief Executive Officer, Las Vegas Sands Corporation – The Venetian
 
Update in 2015: I have wikilinked the names above, but note, just because the name is a bluelink, does not mean it DEFINITELY should be added back into the article, please first check that it is the same person that went to MSU, see WP:DBTF.  Similarly, just because a name shows up as a redlink, does NOT definitely mean there is not a wikipedia article about the person... it might be under their legal name, or use their middle initial, or similar issues.  Finally, see WP:NOTEWORTHY, it is fine to have people listed in mainspace under this article, if they are mentioned -- specifically as being graduates of this specific school -- in a newspaper article or television newscast (not the school newspaper... not the school's station... independent third-party notice), see WP:SOURCES.  However, some articles ... usually university alumni subsections ... use a more stringent standard than WP:NOTEWORTHY, see WP:CSC for details.  In the meantime, feel free to add names of known prominent alums to the list above, here on the talkpage; as time goes by, and more sources are collected, eventually the bluelink'd names will be moved back into the article proper.  75.108.94.227 (talk) 21:01, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Alumni

message: In the Faculty section of this article, there's a reference and link to Cornell University School of Hotel Administration without any citation to the report referenced.
Without proper citation, that reference to a competitor should be removed.
Thanks!
(( above message added 14:45, 12 August 2015‎ , by User:90milesnorth ))
:: I'm wondering if the whole paragraph should be removed?  The journal article I could find at removed per DMCA and WP:COPYVIO shows different statistics than the Wiki article shows, no?  Ron Schnell 19:23, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm working on this too, oddly enough.  :-)      Some of the material is challenged-or-likely-to-be-challenged, but most of it is 'okay' by wiki-policy standards.  I'm adding the link to teh competition where it belongs, in the see-also section.  p.s.  JHTR is paywall territory, that arizona link was likely an unauthorized upload by a student.  See the section of Penn State University where they list JHTR rankings, with no hyperlinks.  The rankings are skewed towards schools that list a ton of co-authors on every paper; MSU got 9th place overall in the 2009 study you linked to, but there was an updated study later, and they moved up in the rankings to beat out Cornell.  Wikipedia should list (and explain the meaning of the esoteric ranking-scheme to our readership) not just the #9 ranking in the 2002-2006 era, but also (once it can be properly sources) the #1 ranking in a later update.  75.108.94.227 (talk) 20:05, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  university rankings versus other schools