Talk:Gheg Albanian

message: Don't know why the person who created this article used the spelling "Gheg", when in fact is "Geg". Someone needs to correct all the references. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.30.65.44 (talk • contribs) 03:57, 16 September 2005 
:Well I do; Ethnologue calls it this way.. More problematic is that according to IS)-639-3 it has a code aln .. and consequently i wonder why it is called a dialect .. :) GerardM 19:39, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You complain about stereotyping Ghegs and then go on to stereotype the same people?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.150.35.109 (talk) 09:02, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Gheg was at one time, and likely is, still spoken in parts of Sicily and southern Italy. If no one objects, I will add that info to the page Cosand (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 03:37, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoken in parts of southern Italy

message: In this table the etymologies (columns "root" and "source") must be thoroughly revised. 
For instance:
ne "us" has no reason to come from Arabic rather than from Indo-European (cf. Latin nos);
zot is "lord" (and "mister"), not properly "god" (Perëndia);
mbret "king" is from Latin imperator (and regj from Latin rex, accusative regem).
If I had time, I would check the whole list using at least the standard works: B. Demiraj, Albanische Etymologien, 1997 (or http://iiasnt.leidenuniv.nl/ied/) (which has the words of Indo-European origin only); W. Meyer-Lübke, Romanisches Etymologisches Wörterbuch, 1939 (for the words of Latin origin, of course); G. Meyer, Etymologisches Wörterbuch der albanesischen Sprache, 1891.
--Zxly (talk) 16:01, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  There is also Vladmir Orel, Albanian Etymological Dictionary, Brill 1998. --Zxly (talk) 02:29, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

text: I used Root / Related no Etymology, I add word that cognate... Gmazdên (talk) 09:07, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Zot is God, mister is Zotëni (Gheg) & Zotëri (Tosk)... Gmazdên (talk) 09:11, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Now I checked Kokona's dictionary again and it says zot = mister, master, god. There will often be a difference between the oldest meaning and the most frequent present-day meaning. --Zxly (talk) 02:29, 15 July 2014 (UTC)

text: God can be called Perêni (Gheg) & Perëndi (Tosk) cognate with protects : Prun (Gheg) & Slavic God of Thunder & Lightning Perun also known has Zevs (Iupiter Imperator ImPerô / Parô / Prun)... Gmazdên (talk) 14:34, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Where is that dialect differences table now, by the way ? --Zxly (talk) 02:29, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Someone remove it, it's Future Perfect at Sunrise (talk)... Read above or below why... 87.67.254.237 (talk) 18:24, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table on dialect differences 

message: Mir dita, ky djali I ka fshi informatat e orizhinës e Ghegat (Gheg), a munësh me thir ni admin ? Nemzag (talk) 13:26, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It is unsourced. You need to cite the specific passage with a reliable source, per wp:rs.Alexikoua (talk) 13:31, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Since it's sourced it can be readded. Unfortunately I have searched for it but no results found.Alexikoua (talk) 13:41, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

text: and which book/paper does claim this?Alexikoua (talk) 13:45, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Verification of his claim, i.e. a source that says that "he sayed that".Alexikoua (talk) 14:02, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Although this sounds frindge from itself I will restore the sentence with the tags, for ca. a month period.Alexikoua (talk) 14:15, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Yes, these words are not necessary for the context, they mean nothing, also Iliad is an 'Epic'.Alexikoua (talk) 14:42, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

text: In general I'm interested in Balkan related topics, this means pov removals is in the daily agenda.Alexikoua (talk) 15:14, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

text: wp:pov (point of view). Unfortunately no, it was completely bad written, not to mention that without a source this will not stay.Alexikoua (talk) 15:56, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Thank you. Anything you need just let me know.Alexikoua (talk) 16:06, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I cannot verify a source to justify the reversal of this edit. It seems like you have taken the information in the Albanian wikipedia here, where it is sourced with Vehbi Bala : PASHKO VASA - portret-monografi, botuar në : Pashko Vasa VEPRA 4, Rilindja, Prishtinë 1989. However, here in the English Wikipedia we have to provide the page number and possibly a quote. If you happen to have Bala's book, and Bala would qualify as a reliable source, that would be sufficient to justify his claim and revert the edit. But in general unsourced paragraphs can be deleted in the English wikipedia. --Brunswick Dude (talk) 20:05, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gheg Origin removed by [[User:Alexikoua|Alexikoua]] 

message: Hi, the two variant exist, you corrected but deri sa is correct to... Do you speak albanian ? You replaced Board Title, may be it would be better to just keep, Toskian, Gheggian & Albania Standard, cause it's not the standard of Macedonia, Kosovo, South Montenegro & North Albania... Gmazdên (talk) 00:16, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I speak Albanian and have a degree in teaching it. Derisa is a conjuction (lidhez), unless it is used in the meaning of "deri sa arrita". In the sense of "perderisa", "derisa" is one word. Std Albanian is used in Kosovo, Macedonia and Albania as lingua franca, although of course Kosovo, northern Albania and Macedonia's Albanians use gheg Albanian at home. Are you one of Migjen Kelmendi followers? --Brunswick Dude (talk) 00:20, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

text: I am Albanian by blood. These lists are kind of unnecessary anyways, as Wikipedia is not a dictionary. They are all unsourced, so someone will remove them eventually as WP:OR. If you want to do a favor to the Albanian nation, please summarize a book written by an independent linguist such as this and write a Good Article. Please understand what wikipedia is. --Brunswick Dude (talk) 00:42, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

text: So why don't you reference to Vladimir Orel? --Brunswick Dude (talk) 01:13, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Suit yourself. In my opinion you are waisting time here. If you are interested in promoting literary works in gheg Albanian, you can write the article "Lahuta e Malcis", which is the most important literary piece, or write more about Albanian writers in Gheg Albanian, especially the ones from Ilirida, of which you may be more cognizant than others, and can truly help wikiproject Albania. If you just want to highlight the differences between the dialects, who is that going to interest? The linguists that are interested in gheg Albanian can buy a book and read it, but how many people, non Albanian speakers are truly interested in that? What they might be interested in is the Albanian culture in Ilirida. Can you do something about that? --Brunswick Dude (talk) 02:05, 8 February 2011 (UTC)

text: I'm not telling you to learn standard Albanian or any language for that matter. If you read what I write, you'll recognize that I said the opposite: expand on things that you know, such as the Albanian writers from Ilirida, or gheg Albanian writers. I would love to write in Albanian, but it's not allowed in the talk pages of the English Wikipedia, because we have to be open to everyone. One more thing. Please don't place what we say in talk pages into the talk pages of an article, that is not allowed either. For that I would suggest you undo this edit of yours .
I think the discussion is about that page, why to reverse ? It's annoying, I don't want to talk any more, good bye ; the root in board mean related term and not etymology... Gmazdên (talk) 11:20, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deri Sa & Derisa 

message: These example for the vowel are in Gheg dialect, I put here the Standard version (based on Tosk) of these terms and the 1895 Gheg version from Shkodër :
IPA	LS   	Written as(Gheg)          	Written as(Tosk)                                                                                                                 	Fialuur i voghel Sccyp e ltinisct(Small Dictionnary of Albanian & LatinFialuur i voghel Sccyp e ltinisct (Small Dictionary of Albanian and Latin), by P. Jak Junkut, 1895, Sckoder)
   	ë    	nër: 'among/between/under'	ndër & nën                                                                                                                       	nner & nnen (page 90)
   	a    	mas: 'after'              	mbas                                                                                                                             	mas (page 76)
   	â    	prâpë: 'back'             	prapa                                                                                                                            	prap (page 110)
   	ä    	knäqët: 'having fun'      	kënaqët / kënaqësi                                                                                                               	knac (page 58)
   	a â ä	parâ‑pä: 'foresee'        	parapa / parapáDictionnaire Français-Albanais / Fjalor Shqip-Frengjisht, page 542, Vedat Kokona, Tiranë, 2002, ISBN 99927-726-4-6	parapa (page 95 : Para + 93 : Paa)
   	e    	derê: 'door'              	dere                                                                                                                             	der (page 22)
   	ê    	mênôj: 'I think'          	mendoj                                                                                                                           	mennoj (page 77)
   	i    	dritë: 'light'            	dritë                                                                                                                            	drit (page 25)
   	o    	kos: 'yogurt'             	kos                                                                                                                              	kos (page 60)
   	u    	kur: 'when'               	kur                                                                                                                              	kuur (page 66)
   	y    	shyqyr: 'thank God'       	shyqyr                                                                                                                           	scycyr (page 139)
   	ô    	dôrë: 'hand'              	dorë                                                                                                                             	dor (page 24)
   	ĩ    	hĩna: 'I entered'         	hyra                                                                                                                             	hîi (page 46)
   	ẽ    	mrẽna: 'within'           	brenda                                                                                                                           	mrenna (page 83)
   	ã    	hãna: 'moon'              	hëna / hënë                                                                                                                      	hana (page 44)
   	õ    	(some dialects)           	                                                                                                                                 	
   	ỹ    	gjỹs: 'half'              	gjys                                                                                                                             	gys (page 42)
   	ũ    	hũna: 'nose'              	hunda                                                                                                                            	hûn (page 47)
That's all Shqyptar (talk) 17:36, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Example for the vowel 

message: Shqyptar (talk) 05:07, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: Merge Northeastern Gheg into the article? Most of that article's subject is Gheg Albanian.--Zoupan 21:48, 13 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge