Talk:Nutmeg

message: I think that the bit about nutmeg butter is directly copied from another page. 
https://www.healthbenefitstimes.com/nutmeg-butter/#:~:text=Nutmeg%20butter%20is%20being%20extracted%20from%20nutmegs.&text=About%2075%20percent%20is%20trimyristin,palm%20oil%20or%20cottonseed%20oil.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snow pea lover (talk • contribs) 03:39, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nutmeg Butter 

message: -----Please note, I have Repetitive Strain Injury and find typing very hard. I use a form of shorthand, which may be difficult to understand. I can be contacted through MSN (sven70) or Skype (sven0921) if my meaning is unclear. (talk) 09:10, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you asking for Myristica acsmithii to be hidden? If not, I'm unsure of your meaning. If so, maybe it's because you think it isn't a real species. It is, it just isn't the usual to have initials in a scientific name. Albert Charles Smith was a contemporary botanist to the species author. Here is some evidence that it's real in the following two references; hopefully this is helpful -  Hamamelis (talk) 13:43, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the very very long list of 'selected' Myristica species could stand to be collapsed by default. That could be what Sven70 was talking about, I'm not sure. It would also be possible to give the Myristica genus its own article, and deal only with commercially significant species of 'nutmeg' here. --Eloil (talk) 02:21, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've collapsed the list and merged the section with 'Propagation' to give 'Botany and cultivation'. I think the article is more readable now that you don't need to scroll past that huge list right after the intro, and it's still right there for the interested reader to access. --Eloil (talk) 17:10, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  can species-1-be hidn pl? 

message: According to Erowid, nutmeg is illegal to import, possibly illegal to possess, and is confiscated by police if found, in Oman and Saudi Arabia. If anyone can find more reliable sources - I'm guessing Erowid, as fantastic a site as it is, doesn't count as one - perhaps this should be covered in this article? Xmoogle (talk) 15:29, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illegal in [[Oman]] and [[Saudi Arabia]]? 

message: I changed:
:especially Penang, where the trees are native within untamed areas
to:
:especially Penang, where the trees grow wild within untamed areas
(Emphasis added.)
It's native to the Banda islands - if it had been available from Penang, getting to Banda wouldn't have been a big deal. From the form of the sentence, I'm guessing the intended meaning was "grow wild" - but that too needs a source. --Chriswaterguy talk 00:47, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Growing wild in Penang? 

message: This is quite confused. Is the page about nutmeg, Myristica fragrans, or is it about the genus Myristica. There should really be two separate pages. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 16:34, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confused 

message: The contributor (as of April 1, 2014) states:</br>
"The essential oil obtained by steam distillation of ground nutmeg is widely used in the perfumery and pharmaceutical industries.. 
I'm changing this to include the "duh" factor: The essential oil thus obtained is highly valued for its aroma and finds use in diverse sectors of the flavoring and fragrancing industries.
This volatile fraction typically contains 60-80% d-camphene by weight, as well as quantities of d-pinene, limonene, d-borneol, l-terpineol, geraniol, safrol, and myristicin." << This sentence and its source need further investigation as none of the components listed can account for the characteristic aroma of nutmeg or mace. A GC/MS chromatogram of Indonesian nutmeg oil cites eugenol and isoeugenol as the two highest percentage components, which makes far more olfactory sense. I refer to Figure 4 in this publication:
Analysis of Essential Oil Compounds Using
Retention Time Locked Methods and
Retention Time Databases
Application Food and Flavors''
© Agilent Technologies, Inc. 2002
cp.chem.agilent.com/Library/applications/5988-6530EN.pdf  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mykstor (talk • contribs) 00:50, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions about Article subtitle "Essential Oils" 

message: why can this article not be linked to the German "Muskatnuss"?
The German wiki article (Muskatnussbaum) does link to all other languages though.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikibal Lector (talk • contribs) 05:33, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article does not link to German (Muskatnuss)? 

message: Almost all the article was about the spice called "nutmeg". The lead section did not correspond to this, since it began by identifying "nutmeg" with the genus and then with a particular species. The article should be about the spice, without a taxobox, and there should be articles on the genus and species. I have moved appropriate material to the articles Myristica and Myristica fragrans and revised the lead accordingly. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:11, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split made 

message: The article states that "nutmeg is usually used in powdered form", but this is fact typical of most spices used in the kitchen and is misleading as it indirectly suggests that the spice is usually sold in powdered form. In Germany, for example, it is readily available in nut form and is easily grated as needed when cooking. It could be argued (source?) that used this way, its flavour and pungency are better preserved until time of application.
178.5.233.66 (talk) 18:36, 28 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Nutmeg is available in nut form in the US. The statement is, "Nutmeg is usually used in powdered form". This is true. Some spices are normally used whole (bay leaf); others whole or powdered (cloves, peppercorns).User-duck (talk) 15:42, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Nutmeg is usually used in powdered form and to get high" -- meaningless, possibly misleading statement 

message: Moving this section here for discussion. It contains weak or no significant sourcing. --Zefr (talk) 01:26, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Case reports as history 

message: Several of the examples listed under "Culinary uses" are uses of the fleshy part of the fruit. I believe this is outside the intended scope of this article.User-duck (talk) 23:49, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree and segregated the spice uses from the rarer fruit applications. There isn't much content and only weak sources for use of the fruit, mainly in Indonesian cuisine. --Zefr (talk) 01:10, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: There was another use of the fruit. Please leave Mace bold. The Mace (spice) redirect now points to this section.User-duck (talk) 04:34, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Culinary uses 

message: From the article "In low doses, nutmeg produces no noticeable physiological or neurological response, but in large doses, raw nutmeg has psychoactive effects".
That sounds helpful, but it's not, because high and low doses simply aren't defined, so it's of no use at all..
From context, it would be assumed that "low dose" refers to the amounts used in recipes. Nobody is getting high from eggnog and pumpkin pie. The amount of nutmeg normally used in the psychoactive accounts is three nutmegs, and I'll guess that half of that amount might be sufficient to produce some effect.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.124.116.101 (talk) 00:42, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toxocity 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This section is super Eurocentric, even though some of the first outside awareness of nutmeg was from China.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rick.heli (talk • contribs) 19:31, 17 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section 

message: "Rarely, nutmeg overdose causes death, especially if the nutmeg is combined with other drugs. Incidents of fatal poisoning from nutmeg and myristicin individually are uncommon." K1Y053 (talk) 09:57, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  isnt it a fallacy? 

message: — Assignment last updated by SienaTCM (talk) 23:03, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Traditional Chinese Medicine

message: Bibliography
*   Ashokkumar, Simal‐Gandara, J., Murugan, M., Dhanya, M. K., & Pandian, A. (2022). Nutmeg (Myristica fragrans Houtt.) essential oil: A review on its composition, biological, and pharmacological activities. Phytotherapy Research, 36(7), 2839–2851. https://doi.org/10.1002/ptr.7491
** This is a peer reviewed scientific journal therefore it should be a reliable source. It covers the overall topic in significant depth, therefore it is helpful in establishing notability.
* Jing-Nuan Wu. (2005). An Illustrated Chinese Materia Medica. Oxford University Press.
** This is a book published by a university press, therefore it should be a reliable source. It dedicates a page to the topic, so we can establish notability.
* Abourashed, & El-Alfy, A. T. (2016). Chemical diversity and pharmacological significance of the secondary metabolites of nutmeg (Myristica fragrans Houtt.). Phytochemistry Reviews, 15(6), 1035–1056. https://doi.org/10.1007/s11101-016-9469-x
** This is a peer reviewed scholarly journal therefore it should be a reliable source. It covers the topic in significant depth, therefore it is helpful in establishing notability.
Sienasaint13 (talk) 19:05, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources for Traditional Chinese Medicine