Talk:To Write Love on Her Arms

message: I have no affiliation with this organization whatsoever. In fact, I was curious about them and found that no Wikipedia article existed, so I started a stub with information readily available on their website. This article needs a great deal more information in it, but it shouldn't be deleted altogether.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Travishearne (talk • contribs) 08:16, 4 January 2007
*please SIGN your name on TALK pages. If you want the article to be kept 
* find information regarding this organisation from places other than their own website
* use that inforation to improve the article
* provide citations to your improvements
Good luck with keeping and improving the article. If you need help with citations let me know!Garrie 00:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Shouldn't be deleted

message: Please keep this article. TWLOHA is a great organization, and I've spoken to the founder face-to-face only a few months ago. They are an amazing group of people with an excellent cause.
Notability isn't a problem, they are notable, they just have not been around long enough for much new information to be added. Renee, the young woman who the organization was started for, has successfully been treated for cocaine addictions and depression. Her life has taken a 180 turn because of this group, and if that isn't notable, I don't know what is.
Please do not delete this article. Any further questions can be directed to this page or straight to my talk page. I'll do the best I can to defend this organization. Streetsabre 05:40, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Please keep this article

message: I heard of the organization in August 2006. Where do they get the date OCTOBER 2006?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.219.251.247 (talk) 20:15, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Founding date?

message: Maybe the bands involved with TWLOHA should have their own catagory. There are so many of them, and people keep adding/subtracting the ones in the main article. I don't want to make that dramatic of a move, but its a thought for someone who's bored.
 
It could possibly be rearanged that way, however the bands dont present themselves as agents of TWLOHA. However you can't truly classify them to much of any degree beside supporters..  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.19.177.254 (talk) 20:52, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bands 

message: Can anybody tell me what this group actually DOES other than promote itself?
From the TWLOHA FAQ
"Q. Where does the money from T-shirt sales and donations go?
A. Initial profits went to cover Renee's rehab expenses. We continue to help support her as she gets her feet on the ground. Beyond that, money essentially goes now to two places:
1. Operating costs: production, management of online store, promotional expenses such as printing and shipping of flyer cards, legal fees, design fees (t-shirts, web, flyers), booth for Cornerstone (and future events). Also, we often send shirts to hurting kids, so when we do that, we cover the production cost plus shipping. Jamie, Trisha David and Lauren are now working on this full-time drawing a salary, determined by a board of directors. The need is great, and we hope to add more staff as soon as possible.
2. Meeting financial needs. Our goal for 2007 is to contribute $100k to the treatment, recovery and support of young people facing depression, addiction, suicide and self-injury."
To judge the notability of this charity, I think it's important to know how much money it takes in and what percentage goes to operating costs (publicity) vs. functional spending. Of the money that goes to "treatment, recovery and support," how is that spent EXACTLY (e.g., do they give money directly to kids, fund clinics (and if so which ones), etc). Also, what exactly is Renee getting money for now? Food, housing? At what point will she be judged "on her feet"? Sorry to sound suspicious, but this is all awfully vague for a charity.
Radosh 00:50, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.twloha.com/finances/ has what purport to be full financial summaries, tax forms, documentation of non-profit status, and so forth; is that not what you mean? And their "help page", while not particularly, um, helpful, is prominently linked-to from the top navigation-bar (with the text "find help"). All told, I'm not sure that anyone is better off for this organization's existence, but it doesn't seem clearly fraudulent to me. More "silly" than "shady", maybe? —RuakhTALK 03:05, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual activities? 

message: To everyone who has expressed concern about the content of the page and the purpose of the organization, our team is currently working on re-doing this page. We appreciate your patience and past assistance with crafting it, but we would like to make the information as accurate as possible. Thanks
-Michael
Michael@twloha.com
--TWLOHAmichael (talk) 19:58, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Working On Crafting Page 

message: The article uses flowery speech in one spot that, in my opinion, reads like an ad brochure and not like an encyclopedia. "All money donated to TWLOHA goes towards bringing hope and help to meet people right where they are." How much does it cost to bring hope? :) I think this ought to be reworded to be more neutral. Also, is "all money" accurate? They don't spend any money on salaries, office rental, travel, or advertising? All the best, – Quadell (talk) (random) 23:17, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor language problem 

message: I'd suggest not to delete it, but to clean it up.
When I take a quick look over the article, all I see are numbers and [citation needed]s
008'/,treme (talk) 20:11, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article doesn't look very encyclopedic. 

message: What's up with the name? The quotation in the article, "[…] we will be her church, the body of Christ coming alive to meet her needs, to write love on her arms", makes me think it might be some kind of Christian Biblical reference? Whatever it is, I think it's probably worth mentioning in the article. —RuakhTALK 13:49, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's up with the name? 

message: The part of the faq cited for it being inter-faith & non-profit (http://twloha.com/faq) just links to a sample page with no content just "lorum ipsum". 
There's faqs here http://twloha.com/faqs/general but can't see a claim/statement that they;re interfaith just that they don't view themselves as a Christian organisation.
"We are not a Christian organization. Although there are people on staff who are Christians and even some Christian elements in the original story, this is an organization for all people. Because we believe issues like addiction, depression, self-injury, and suicide affect everyone, we are an organization for everyone, regardless of age, gender, sexual orientation, religion, race, ability, nationality, or other differences. As an organization, we aim to be inclusive and inviting for everyone."
- but they still have "God is still in the business of redemption." in their vision statement from the founder Jamie Tworkowski http://twloha.com/vision & I've seen their merch (wristbands/badges/t-shirts) sold in a local UK Christian bookshop that explicitly does not sell non-Christian goods.
The whole thing has a very religious or a new age spiritual youth group feel to it & two  of the organisations the money goes to are explicitly religious - offering "Faith Based counselling" & including "Biblical precepts" as equal to psychological concepts & mental health techniques.
http://twloha.com/faqs/financial-donations
Does say on the faq page that they're non-profit - "Are you a non-profit organization?
Yes, TWLOHA, Inc. is a registered 501(c)(3) organization. Tax ID number 26-0789229. A copy of our IRS approval letter can be found in the Finances section of our website. To see where donations to TWLOHA go, visit our Donate page."
Also what do the story tellers & chapters actually do except exploit their fe llow students for money and awareness of the organisation & does TWLOHO actually do anything positive except sell mrch, promote itself, donate some money to already existing organisations and encourage emo bands to perform & students to think buying & wearing merch & posting on facebook is all caring and sharing and helping people.109.224.137.121 (talk) 01:26, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem with citations 

message: The last sentence of the first paragraph doesn't read correctly, but I don't know enough about this subject to correct it. Does it mean that they encourage people to live as a part of society, or as a society, or something else? Please can someone more knowledgeable edit this for us? Thank you AndrewJFulker (talk) 11:23, 27 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Typo?