Talk:Lost (2004 TV series)/Archive 8

message: There is a clip floating on the internet which labels all six of the stations on Lost, and what they are for.  You can download this using bit torrent look for "LOST special files."  Is the info from this something I should add to the appropiate articles, or is this not "Cannon".  Too me it seems to clearly be from the official LOST people, even if it hasn't been offically released.--128.59.143.41 07:45, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Stations

message: Well, it's that time again -- we have a glut of crufty articles to delete.
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leslie Artz (Lost)  (Note that Arzt's name is misspelled in the article's title)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edward Mars (Lost)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Vincent (Lost)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/"Mr. Friendly" (Lost)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ethan Rom (Lost)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Henry Gale (Lost)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cindy Chandler (Lost) (Is "Chandler" her actual last name? Does anyone have proof of this?)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Aaron Littleton (Lost)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Desmond (Lost)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Goodwin (Lost)
Oh, and one more, for an article that was recreated despite having had an AfD vote for deletion just a week or so ago.  This one PKtm put up for speedy delete, so it's listed in CAT:CSD.  Here's the prior discussion.
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Danielle Rousseau (Lost) 
Enjoy! Danflave 19:00, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for nominating all of these :) Jtrost (T | C | #) 21:44, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AfD A-go-go 

message: Why is there no mention of 'the chain' anywhere about?
What I mean here is towards the end of the first series when the crew that go for the dynamite are returning to the camp they are attacked by some sort of monster, we do see a smaller version of THE monster but then some sort of chain grabs Locke and begins dragging him into the ground.
This seems like a pretty important clue to the mystery of the island- something definatly mechanical going on there. It at least warrants a small mention even if there is no definate idea of WTF was going on--Josquius 18:52, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chain bot 

message: *Stanford prison experiment —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.197.198.22 (talk • contribs) 
::....why?--Josquius 19:58, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *I would surmise the anon-IP is speculating that the Island (or at least Swan Station) is part of a psychological experiment (as many have suggested.) A better example, in terms of DHARMA, might be the Milgram experiment. However, this is all pure speculation, and not appropriate for the article (or this talk page). —LeflymanTalk 05:24, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: See also

message: I removed this section, as "the Lost Experience" is not actually a part of the TV series, itself, but a sort of ancillary creation. A brief mention in some other place may be appropriate, rather than this extended (and redundant) description:
The LOST Experience
As of May 2 2006, coinciding with the début of Lost season 2 in the UK, the Hanso Foundation website returned with a completely new design and new sections, as the site has now become part of the show's ARG - The Lost Experience, which ABC had previously announcedABC to launch "Lost" interactive game, Associated Press, April 24 2006. Site accessed May 3 2006. on April 24, 2006. 
It was announced that the game would be launched on May 2 in the UK, May 3 in the USA and May 6 in Australia, it also stated "the first clue requires finding a toll-free number that will be released during the show or commercial breaks": this phone number was 1800227717. On May 2 2006, the début of Lost season 2 in the UK, included Hanso Foundation advertisements in the commercial breaks. It included a freephone UK telephone number, 0800 66 66 40, and calling this number on May 3 played a recorded message and gave several phone menu options. In Australia on the May 4, during the screening of the episode The Hunting Party a toll free number and advertisement to contact the Hanso Foundation appeared. The phone number was 1800 22 77 17. A recording of the call is included in the external links below. The recorded messages included several pieces of information which, when entered into the www.thehansofoundation.org site, yields further information.  A similar advertisement aired in the US on May 3 for the second season episode Two for the Road.  The listed toll-free number was 1-877-HANSORG (1-877-426-7674).
--LeflymanTalk 20:51, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excised [[Lost Experience]] under Mythology 

message: Both Goodwin and Henry Gale used the statement that they were "good" people to defend their actions. Also, at the end of the Long Con, Sawyer states that he is not a good person, and has never done a good thing in his life. I think quite a few of the castaways actually talk about goodness/not goodness. One interesting point there is that "good" hasn't been given a dualistic pair. Its always either good or "not good". Not good or bad, good or evil, etc. Ignus 01:06, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *I agree, but there are actually more references than those, including this quote by Goodwin from The Other 48 Days: "Nathan was not a good person. That's why he wasn't on the list."  The list has also been mentioned at other points in the show, but I guess it's OR to connect it with "good people". --Kahlfin 18:45, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

text: True, but right now, there's nothing to go on except saying "The Others consider themselves 'good people'."  I'd rather wait and see what comes next season, but right now, there's nothing notable to put into the article.  Lumaga 19:58, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should "Good People" be listed under thematic motifs?

message: Regarding unsourced mention of The Thing (# 6), Javier Grillo-Marxuach, supervising producer & writer for LOST, has also written for Marvel comics.  I can't find the direct reference for the LOST numbers being used as a bomb sequence, but would understand why it would be an in-joke.  Hopefully the number of the comic will help editors with more comic book experience find the source. agapetos_angel 13:47, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Thing comicbook reference

message: There are currently four tie-in novels related to Lost: Bad Twin, Endangered Species, Secret Identity, and Signs of Life.  Bad Twin already has its own article, which really isn't a bad idea since it is encyclopedic, but in the spirit of not having 100+ Lost articles I would much rather have one article that covers all four novels and any future ones.  I am currently reading these books and would be happy to supply the article with content in due time, but I'd like to gauge a consensus first. Jtrost (T | C | #) 18:19, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Does anyone have an opinion on this? Jtrost (T | C | #) 14:42, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Perhaps the lack of response was due to the lack of people who've actually read these? I know that I personally have little interest in tie-in novels. However, organising the print fiction connected to Lost in a single break-out article, with short book descriptions and summaries seems like a good idea to me. Is there a standard title for tie-ins -- i.e. is the preference for something like List of Star Trek novels or the simpler Buffy novels?—LeflymanTalk 19:58, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creation of [[Lost tie-in novels]] article 

message: About the monster: "The smoke creature is a metal in a magnetic field. It most likely has something to do with the electromagnetism on the island. It's controlled by the Dharma scientists."
About the black rock: "The shaft is dug deep in the ground, 'cos of the electromagnetism. The electromagnetism is very strong on that island. So strong that it can indeed cause the poles of the Earth to change places. That's why Desmond asked if Sidney and LA are on their places."
About the button: "Pushing the button at the science base on the island every 108 minutes sends information to the scientists outside of the island. If the button isn't pushed all exits of the hatch close until the code is entered again."
About the crash: "The crash was caused by the monster."
I don't know where I write it, please who knows where's the place, write it.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.182.129.176 (talk • contribs) 16:23, 10 May 2006
*Sorry, but this has no place in the article; it's speculative Original Research. Try the Lost Wikia instead. —LeflymanTalk 19:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  more informations to the page 

message: ... is the article Valenzetti. I followed a link from a fan site to this article, & was surprised at what I found: a fair bit of detail that I haven't seen elsewhere -- yet at first glance appears to be compatible with the plot of the series.
Is this article a hoax? Is it valid information that someone associated with the series planted in Wikipedia? I checked the edit histories of the other people who contributed to this article, & they all have sketchy histories behind them with nothing that would clearly link them to the series -- nor link them to credible Wikipedians. (Well, all but two: I did some wikifying to the article, both under my own name & under an IP address -- I forgot I wasn't logged in the first time.) I have to say, I'm a little uncomfortable with Wikipedia being used to reveal clues about Lost in this manner. -- llywrch 05:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Lost-related puzzle 

message: J.J. Abrams was on Howard Stern's show last week (early May 2006), and he said that the "Previously on Lost" voice is Lloyd Braun's voice slowed down a bit.  Where would one place that information on this page? Oodus
:In my view, one wouldn't. That's not notable or encyclopedic information; it's more along the lines of fan trivia.  It's very suited to a site like LostPedia, however.  -- PKtm 18:46, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where should I put this? 

message: I understand having separate articles for the Dharma Initiative and the Hanso Foundation, but to have separate sections for each of them under "Mythology" seems silly. The mystery of the Dharma Initiative is the mystery of the Hanso Foundation- there's not enough known about either to make a distinction. 
Another thing: I attempted to write a sub-section that described the other mysterious phenomena on the island- dreams, hallucinations, healings, etc., but the section was deleted. I think that the general weirdness of the island is an important mystery/aspect of the show that deserves its own section.
--Silentword 00:48, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  We don't know if the Hanso and Dharma is the same mystery. That's speculation. Right now, they arent. The mystery of Hanso could be described as its agenda and particular involvment with Dharma, and Dharma mysteries include things like purpose of the stations, why it is abandoned, etc. Right now Dharma and Hanso are two seperate entities. Another reason for including Hanso in the listing, it has an entire official website and alternate reality game dedicated to it, Dharma does not. --Jake11 01:42, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mythology section

message: It looks like it might have been deleted in an act of vandalism and never replaced? The last good edit that contains that section seems to be  23:18, 19 May 2006 Unless there was some sort of decision to remove the section. There's no link to the "episodes of Lost" page from here now though... Ignus 19:50, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Why was the Season Synopsis section removed?

message: What hapened to it?  Where did it go?  I mean, it was there a moment ago, and now it is gone!
:It was voted for deletion here: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Airdates_of_Lost. --Kahlfin 06:00, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Airdates of Lost" article 

message: Leg injurys seem to happen a lot on Lost, it seems like a motif to me.
Some examples:
- Locke's handicap
- The man in the pilot caught under wreckage
- Sayid after coming back from being captured by Roussou
- Sayid shooting himself in the leg to let Nadia escape
- Boone's leg needing to be amputed
- Locke's leg caught under blast door in hatch
There's more too...
Please don't flame me! *hides* —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.165.44.224 (talk • contribs) 17:52, 22 May 2006
*It's been noticed before, but it's not exactly a "motif" -- just another of the many ways one can come up with non-notable plot repetitions. See: Talk:Lost_%28TV_series%29/Story_elements#Leg Injuries & Other Themes?—LeflymanTalk 20:54, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leg injurys under motifs? 

message: The main Lost template is looking at major edits after the finale tonight, there has been some discussion on how the design should look like, and what the contents of the new template should be, the Current template is as follow
and is looking to be replaced with this one
 
and others that are listed in there, Please do not share your ideas here, go to Template talk:LostNav#More "spacious" template to share your thoughts, thank you very much and enjoy the season finale tonight 9/8c on ABC --mo-- (Talk | #info |  ) 16:05, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lost Template 

message: Please see and vote at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Leslie Arzt.  Yes, again. -- PKtm 00:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another AfD, folks 

message: I have added
as seems to be wikipedia standard procedure now (see My name is earl) numerous times however it keeps being removed. Why does this keep happening? Is the Earl article wrong in having it?--Josquius 18:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because the tag is HIGHLY disputed. See it's TfD's and the discussion on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television. Basically the idea is "it's ugly, interrupts your reading of the article, and has no clear benefit". If you have to put this banner on a page, it means you haven't written that (part) of the article as a proper encyclopedic article. - TheDJ (talk • contribs • WikiProject Television) 13:15, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tag keeps being removed 

message: Why have comments been deleted from this talk page? --Chris Griswold 15:58, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed some extensive multiple vandalism (stemming from a single user) this morning, and the perpetrator has now been blocked for 48 hours. I don't believe I removed anything of substance. Follow the edit history to see the specific edits that I removed; I don't think my action is controversial. Thanks, PKtm 16:12, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talk Page Deletions 

message: Question. Where do the episodes titles for the Farscape episodes actually come from? I've watched nine episodes and they're not actually mentioned anywhere in the episodes themselves. Why not? They're on the title screen on my DVD version though. Are they officially released, or just invented by fans? --Mark J 21:15, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode titles? 

message: Is it worth mentioning that they are making a game based off the show? Here are some links with proof (The first is the actual link, the second is an english version)
http://www.gamer.nl/doc/32639
http://www.shacknews.com/docs/press/052206_lost_ubisoft.x 03:35, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video Game 

message: Recently active editor SergeantBolt has uploaded an excellent audio version of the article, which he reads with professionalism well beyond his years. Well done, SB! --LeflymanTalk 16:07, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much, Leflyman.  I'll be doing more Lost articles in the near future - and I'm considerably happier now that I know how to pronounce Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje! SergeantBolt 17:16, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kudos to [[User:SergeantBolt]]