Talk:Paramount chief

message: Someone recently change my placement of the SiSwati word ngwenyama (the term usually now translated as "king" in English before 1903 and after 1968, and the one the British translated as "paramount chief" during their colonial rule) in italics, to placing it in quotation marks.  Putting non-English words in italics is a widespread editorial convention for English-language texts, for which I have a personal preference in this situation.  However, if there is a Wikipedia convention to use quotation marks, I will readily accede.  Can anyone shed light on whether this is just a matter of preference between me and the other editor, or if there is actually a Wikipedia-specific convention?  Thanks  Chris Lowe (talk) 02:16, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A decade on, I may as well point out that the manual of style recommends "italics for phrases in other languages" and for isolated foreign words that do not yet have everyday use in non-specialized English. Klbrain (talk) 20:43, 2 October 2018 (UTC)
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message: Bahurutshe Kingdom and history of Southern Africa:
A deliberate omission by historians  to hide the impact of colonialism in South Africa that destroyed one of the oldest Hurutshe kingdom  is to confuse the current Botswana - previously Bechoanaland and the tribes that constituted it at independence as a total embodiment of all Batswana including Bahurutshe. Whilst it is now a popularised narrative to reduce Bahurutshe into a tribe, it is historically wrong as Bahurutshe are a parent lineage of the so-called “ Sotho group” and therefore a nation with kinship status and not a tribe as colonialist historians sought to destroy their history and origin. The wrong narrative has deprived inquisitive researchers to study what is established by a much validated new data that in-fact Bahurutshe are a parent lineage of all Batswana, Basotho and Bapedi nations. This historical fact of history established, historians should do justice to the future generations and correct a false narrative that effectively eliminated Bahurutshe kingdom from history in Africa and Southern Africa. The Bahurutshe kingdom/country before colonialism is stretching from Caprivi, Victoria Falls and covering Botswana, Transvaal up to Middleburg, Lesotho/Free State and parts of the Northern Cape. It is understandable why it was necessary from a distorted narrative of the colonizers to extinct this rich history of human development because it would not have served their economic interest to do so. The Bahurutshe land was endowed with gold, iron, copper, diamonds, ivory and salt and it was therefore a target for tivsl tribal attacks and ultimately by colonialism. Bahurutshe established secondary palaces in these lands with their capital imperial royal palace established in the western Transvaal called KADITSHWENE and TSHWENYANE. The area is notably one of the oldest human settlements and organised economy that included iron and copper smelting and industrialization ag a point of European invasion in the 1700’s.  It is dated to around 600AD. The last king of Kaditshwene was King Moilwa II and the kingdom was displaced in 1823 by the marauding forces of a splinter Nguni/Ndebele tribe led by Mzilikazi. The kingdom in earlier years before an attack by amandebele was attacked by the Makololo of Sebetwane who were defeated. The Ndebele of Mzilikazi were defeated and fled to Zimbabwe and the Makololo were also defeated by the Bahurutshe kingdom and fled to Zambia. Bahurutshe like other African kingdom were dethroned by the British imperialism and its leader King Moilwa II was given the status of “ Paramount Chief of all Batswana”. Bahurutshe are residing  in Lehurutshe and their great palace is based in the village called DINOKANA. They are engaged with the South African government to reinstall their full status as a kingdom as it existed before colonialism. (Writer: HRH Uhuru Dikgang Moiloa. Direct Descendant of Bahurutshe kingdom and Royal Regent Assigned)
Cell: 083 395 7880
Email: moiloa58.um@gmail.com
2022. 41.10.183.140 (talk) 21:00, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bahurutshe Kingdom