Talk:Battle of Saraighat

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Prabhakar 09:38, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: ok.  shabbs 16:31, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
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message: I am quoting from History of Aurangzeb by Sir Jadunath Sarkar
"Ram Singh reached Rangamati in February 1669. But from the first his task was hopeless. Service in Assam was extremely unpopular, and no soldier would go there unless compelled. Indeed there is reason to believe that Ram Singh was sent to Assam as a punishment for his having secretly helped Shivaji to escape from captivity at Agra. He had only 8000 troopers around his standards, and his losses were seldom replenished.
The Ahoms, being a nation in arms, mustered one hundred thousand when mobilized. Unlike the time of Mir Jumla's invasion, the mastery of the water now belonged to the Ahoms, and the Mughals could do little with their 40 war-vessels on the Brahmaputra."
So it was actually 8000 against 100,000!!!
: This is an earlier work of Jadunath Sarkar.  The later work (in The Comprehensive History of Assam) includes sources not used in this work (The History of Aurangzeb) and therefore clearly supercedes the earlier work.  The numbers themselves indicate that Sarkar has come across new data.  Because he mentions in the later work that Ram Singh started with the 4000, which was augmented by the Empreror.  
: The Ahom numbers are greatly exaggarated. The Ahoms did not have a standing army, and commanders had different numbers of "paiks" under them.  Not all officials in the Ahom administration was involved in the war, just as the entire Mughal army wasn't. Had Guwahati fallen, the Ahoms would have had to first defend Kaliabor, and then the capital.  Sarkar gives a detailed account of the war and the battle in The Comprehensive History of Assam.  The details and the tactics the Ahoms adopted show that they were fighting with the smaller of the two armies. 
: Also, notice his qualification on his opinion of a punishment.  "Indeed there is reason to believe that Ram Singh was sent as a punishment...".  It is Sarkar's opinion, and that too a half-hearted one.  
: Chaipau 20:33, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
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message: could you please put down here the facts that you dispute? Chaipau (talk) 20:57, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Removing maintenance tag under #4 WP:WTRMT. Chaipau (talk) 09:53, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
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message: this page covers the whole series of Ram Singh's invasion, the topic about the battle of Saraighat is only squeezed in one last paragraph, should there be a change in the name? ComparingQuantities (talk) 18:42, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Examples of this type is given in Battle: Battle of the Atlantic, Battle of Britain, etc. Chaipau (talk) 02:42, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Giving here examples of other articles is maybe not suitable or doesn't match this case. Various authors have described this whole phase as 'Ram Singh's expedition to Assam' instead of just naming it after the battle. I don't see how this is different from Mir Jumla's invasion of Assam. ComparingQuantities (talk) 12:28, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
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