Talk:New Zealand Globster

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message: The locality Muriwai is linked to Muriwai beach on the west coast, near Auckland, but the Pursuit newsletter says it's the Muriwai on East Cape, 25 km south of Gisborne. Without the 1968 Auckland Star article (not online) there's no way to confirm which, but I'm changing it to East Cape, as the newsletter authors who quoted the news story presumably got the locality from there. Need a friendly librarian who could search back issues of the Auckland Star (for the whole of 1968!) Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 23:20, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Check it for your own: the year was 1965 as other authors like Dinsdale in "The Leviathans" of 1966(!) quoted the Townsville Bulletin of 24.03.1965. The locality is Muriwai on the west coast as 1. there's no other Muriwai on the North Island and 2. the Townsville Bulletin acknowledges Auckland. If you read Dinsdale then also notice that it was Joan Robb, Senior Lecturer of Zoology, who was at place and identified it and Morton therefore just followed her opinion.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.228.23.146 (talk) 22:35, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll delete Ellis from the References section (and leave it in the photo caption). Ellis mentions the globster only briefly. He gives location only as "Muriwai, on North Island". Nurg (talk) 20:42, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, so the reference in the 1968 Pursuit magazine was the only mention of it I could find online; it didn't give a date for the Auckland Star article, so I mistakenly assumed it was 1968. So some time in 1965 it is. It does absolutely state the globster was from Muriwai on East Cape (that Muriwai really does exist, it's a beach south of Gisborne, you can go see it on Google Maps). Why Dinsdale is quoting the Townsville Bulletin, a newspaper from Queensland, Australia, I can't imagine. I can perfectly imagine the Townsville Bulletin getting it wrong (since the Muriwai near Auckland is far more well-known) and Pursuit magazine getting it right. The only way to resolve this is to search through back issues of the Auckland Star for the original early-1965 article for the full details. As I said. Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 21:47, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the Auckland Star article/s from 1965 are needed. But I have found evidence that it was Muriwai Beach near Auckland. This index card from Auckland Libraries says it was "Muriwai Beach, Auckland". And the Auckland Star quotation in Pursuit says it was "15 miles up the beach". Muriwai beach in Poverty Bay is less than 15 miles long, while Muriwai Beach near Auckland is more than 15 miles long. So I suspect Pursuit is wrong in saying "a beach on the East Cape", which was not part of its quotation from the Auckland Star. Nurg (talk) 05:12, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you Nurg for tracking down the original newspaper article and adding lots of good info to this article, which is substantially better now. You've also sorted out the problems with the Pursuit magazine reference. Well done. Giantflightlessbirds (talk) 22:39, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
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