Talk:System of units of measurement

message: This article should discuss units of convenience, which may include units falling into the other categories. Best example I can think of is the "shake", from 2 shakes of a lamb's tail. Used by atomic physicists to represent 10 nanoseconds. Stevetac (talk) 03:09, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Units of convenience

message: I propose that this section be renamed "Middle Eastern Measures". It is inconsistent with teh rest of this group of headers, which are generally grouped by region rather than religion, and this header title explictly excludes any system from before ~700 AD or so, as well as excluding those systems which were based off the one system listed, but are not used in Islamic countries. I am thinking specifically of Maltese units for this second group. Rhialto 06:57, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Islamic Measures 

message: This is a cross-post of message on user_talk:Ambuj.Saxena for further clarification FrankB
Hi! 
:You left me a question in your edit summary. See: This  for a quick refresher. I put the stub on it to attract editor attention.  I probably should have place a clean on it as well for the same purpose. I don't like to cause doubt in users minds, distinct from editors, as that is not good for our WikiReputation!
:There is a lot to fill in because most cultures have their own 'peoples measures' like the cup (unit) artilce indicates clearly. e.g. United States customary units. I placed in line comments within () to indicate this cultural input was what was needed. Those are visible in the link view as well.
:Hope this clears it up as I have no idea what the customary units may be for Java, Turkey, Italy nor Pakistan! 
*I'll cross post this to the talk and add a clean tag there. I was rushed that night—most likely 5 to seven edit pages deep that I had to back out of and save as I went. :) I eventually got to bed, but it wasn;t early! :(
::FrankB 03:37, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding your query on Customary_measurement_systems 

message: I cleaned up the history section.  I consolidated the links to various customary units into three categories based on region and removed some excess text that added little to the section (these edits were made under my IP-address, 64.247.89.117 as I forgot to log in...)Dpf90 (talk) 10:45, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaning up history section 

message: Systems of measurement#Area
, ,  Peter Horn User talk 01:58, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: . Peter Horn User talk 02:01, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verification 

message: Why does the "history" section begin with metric units?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.69.71.55 (talk) 23:13, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Units of measure has five content sections:
# "History" duplicates the "History" section of this article, and should be merged here.
# "Systems of units" summarizes this article, and should be merged here.
# "Base and derived units" is talking about systems of measurement, and should be merged here or fundamental unit.
# "Calculations with units of measurements" duplicates dimensional analysis and should be merged there and perhaps summarized here.
# "Real-world implications" could just as easily be talking about confusion between systems of measurement, and should be merged here.
-- Beland (talk) 23:11, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Unit of measure is a very universal term. It is widely used in accounting and economics. Money is a monetary unit of measure. Money is also a concept. Money is also a physical unit. Non-physical units of measure like Celsius and Ohm and Fahrenheit are also units of measure. All of these need to appear in one article and properly organized. The articles that maybe have to be merged are 1. Unit of account. 2. Units of measurement. 3. System of measurement. The most widely used term in all the above is "unit of measure". Homni (talk) 12:01, 23 July 2014 (UTC)

text: Unit of account and unit of measure are used as synonyms in economics and accounting. However, unit of account has a very specific definition in accounting - at international accounting standards level - that is not a nominal monetary unit of measure; not money or a fiat currency. In IFRS and US GAAP a unit of account is not a unit of measure. At that level, a unit of account are the words used to describe an asset unit of liability unit for accounting purposes.Homni (talk) 12:07, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: :Systems of measure should address systems.(The units here given in English were originally developed in Mesopotamia, Egypt, Greece, Rome, Persia,for International trade and systematized to standards in the middle bronze age as reported in classical times by Herodotus, Vitruvus, Ptolemy, Marinus of Tyre and others and are addressed by Wikipedia in their respective sections)
 
:Systems with common and different or modified histories, bases and units derived by calculation or proportion, or conversion from sexigesimal to septenary, octal, decimal, pentagonal variations for convenience in working with systems of unit fractions or proportions used in architecture, agriculture, navigation, manufacturing process, volumetric capacity of crates, bins, barrels, where a length is the standard for the side determining the area or volume need to be looked at internationally and historically with reference to purpose
as the legal definition which defined property, contract, treaty, inheritance over long periods in which political governance changed.
:The system of body measures uses as units fingers, palms, hands, spans, feet, cubits, paces, etc; things related to the human body.
:The system of agricultural measures uses as units feet, remen, yards, paces, rods, poles, knotted cords,links,chains, furlongs,etc; things related to the establishment of fields, which might discriminate between unimproved land, garden plots, plowed fields, building lots, roads, parks, forests or wood lots, mines, waterways, slopes, orchards according to definitions of property which qualified land owners to vote or determined their proportion of taxes, tithes, inheritance, feudal obligations of service in return for sustenance, levies for public works or warfare,rewards for military service; often with units of length as the sides of units of area developed into varying multiples according to the method of plowing fields with oxen or later horses and machines.
:The system of inscription grids uses body measures as relative proportions for pleasing harmonies of scale.
:The system of architectural proportion uses body measures and in larger works agricultural measures as a scale for relative proportions of pleasing harmonies in geometric units such as the rectangles, squares, diagonals, diameters, circumferences of the Greek orders of architecture. Each succeeding historical culture refined the systems of its predecessors into canons of proportion such as the golden section, various forms of curve which could be described mathematically, relations of distance to units of time such that there were definitions of an hours sail or a days march in multiples of body and agricultural measures such as stadia and degrees.
:The system of navigational measure first used units of agricultural measure as lengths for which relations of distance to units of time were applied to include expected distances traveled on water out of sight of land by astronomical observations of the sun, moon, planets and stars, adjusted for currents and changes of course such that there were definitions of an hours sail or a days march in multiples of body and agricultural measures standardized as miles, knots, leagues, stadia and degrees by actual measures of these distances on land.
   
: Because this is a very large and complex topic, writings which have compiled or discussed historic standards of mensuration and the changes to them are often subject to different perspectives and biases. Changes to what Wikipedia says about any aspect of the systematic nature of measurement should be very careful to include any source material which expresses opinion with a discussion of the opinion by historically contemporary peers and modern scholars.142.0.102.230 (talk) 10:27, 23 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Systems of Measure 

message: Myanmar units of measurement is not mentioned on this page, being one of the last too not convert to the metric system. It should at least get a mention. Doremon764 (talk) 16:32, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myanmar units of measurement