Talk:List of film and television directors

message: I really, really object to including their movies here.  They can be listed on the respective article pages.  RickK 06:03, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: I strong, strongly second this motion. Are we going to squabble over whether Hitchcock gets Psycho listed beside his name or The Birds? Or do we give in to listing all of every director's movies and/or TV shows consuming massive amounts of time and cluttering the page to an unreadable level? I say just leave it out entirely. Seems like a lot less hastle for relatively little information loss (as this information is available by clicking on the link). -- Matty j 09:25, Jan 3, 2004 (UTC)
I think this list should not exist. There is already a category called film directors and categories are supposed to replace lists, for they are automatically generated. I'll add all these film directors to category film director (the ones that aren't) and maybe then we can discuss the end of this list... Paulo Oliveira 11:13, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

text: Ok, I categorized some of the film directors (up to C), but started realizing that each one usually has a country categorization. In that sense, the best thing to do would be to categorize all of them according to their country. That way, category:film directors wouldn't need to exist except for sub-categories. Some of the film directors are already listed twice (once on the film director category and once again on the film director by nationality category).—Preceding unsigned comment added by Paulo Oliveira (talk • contribs) 11:52, 25 May 2005 (UTC)

text: I think this list should be marked as "to be removed" after all the entries are correctly categorized. Up to this point I've correctly categorized everything up to G (including G). Paulo Oliveira 11:49, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

text: Won't it be a lot of work? Who will decide which ones are notable? I agree with some of your ideas, but according to the Wikipedia guidelines, lists must only exist if they have a purpose other than categorization, and what we're doing here is categorizing. Maybe we could create a new "Notable directors" category, for a list is intended to be an article (initially) and only then contain a list of "stuff." Paulo Oliveira 08:50, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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message: i would not mention the names of those who i think could in no way be included in a list of world notable film directors but strongly suggest an addition to the list of a most original director of our times; daryush shokof: www.filmregisseurs.html www.imdb.com www.shokof.com. one look at the body of works by this artist would be enough for any verification as the top of such a list.Sandysand (talk) 17:50, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: since you wrote, he has an article, and ive added him. for anyone else reading this: the best place to recommend items to include on a list is at Wikipedia:Requested articles. putting the request here reduces the number of eyeballs seeing the suggestion to a handful. Adding names to lists where there is no corresponding article is only acceptable when there are reliable sources provided showing the person is notable, and should reasonably have an article written about them based on their current notability. I would also recommend that anyone wanting to improve this article add the birth date or year of the director, and death date, as a good, neutral piece of extra information. as pointed out above, adding a major film can be problematic. also possible to add: nationality, major award, TV if only TV directing, TV/Film if both, otherwise the assumption would be film only. having some information or structure that varies from the Category helps make this more useful.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 07:22, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  daryush shokof 

message: Following the recent AfD, I think this page would be far more useful if we were to split this list into two separate lists - for List of film directors and List of television directors - leaving this page to cover the intersection for directors who have worked in both media.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 12:10, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Requester has been asked to carry out split. I am trying to clear up the split tag back log, but I wouldn't know where to begin with this one and noone else seems interested. Op47 (talk) 16:48, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there consensus to do this though?  As per the AfD, I am unsure of the inclusion criteria here, and would like to see further discussion before I go ahead and do it.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 10:09, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: On one hand, I understand your concern to get concensus. On the other hand, we cannot leave articles tagged indefinitely. May I suggest that you leave it until the end of February 2012 and if there is no further discussion, make a decision.
As far as I can tell, there are 3 possible outcomes:
1) Remove the tag and leve the article as is
2) Split the article per split tag
3) Create 2 extra lists per your wish and leaving this article for those people who want this article
Op47 (talk) 23:19, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll post something at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Film in the hope of further input.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 16:49, 7 February 2012 (UTC)

text: I see your point, but due to the indiscriminate nature of this list, there seems something rather redundant about it.  If we have three lists: film; television; and both (being the intersection), then from your example above, Scorsese would be on all three.  If we just have this one list then there is no discrimination as to what medium the director worked in, hence the irrelevancy I'm seeing.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 09:25, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Ack I new I left something out of my post yesterday. Is there any reason that we can't note on this list the medium(s). For example "Martin Scorsese  - Film - Television". For those that are in both you could use bold letters for the one that they are most active in although that isn't entirely necessary. I think that the maintenance would be easier if everything was in one place. However if you and/or others are willing to do the upkeep on three lists then I say more power to you and proceed as you see fit. Thanks for the reply and for your work on this. MarnetteD | Talk 13:46, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split 

message: As it stands this list is not very helpful. The community consensus is that as per WP:CLN, we don't delete lists just because they are not currently helpful. There are some suggestions on CLN for how a list can be developed, and this may become a project for someone. There are a number of ways someone could organise this list - create a table and have fields for country of origin, dates, awards, links to filmographies, and short biographical notes. The page would become vast, of course, and some consideration could be given to splitting the list into manageable chunks - alphabetically, or regionally, or chronologically, etc. SilkTork ✔Tea time 12:29, 19 April 2012 (UTC)
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message: Since we have List of female film and television directors, I have renamed this to make clear that this is a list of male film and television directors. Someone may wish to move any female directors to the relevant list if they are not already there. Personally, I would prefer to see a single list, but I'm working with what is already here. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 22:48, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You shouldn't rename this article just because someone created another article. This is a list of all film and TV directors with WP pages, or it's supposed to be. No one has removed all the female directors, so your new title is inaccurate. I'm reverting it. - Gothicfilm (talk) 19:42, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article rename