Talk:University of California, Riverside/Archive 15

message: The chart at http://tools.wikimedia.de/~tony_sidaway/cgi-bin/vandalism?period=month&period1=200101&period2=200612&article=University+of+California%2C+Riverside&lang=en&Go=Go is labeled List of vandalism reverts, but the red bars actually indicate the number of edits in the UCR article. There was a spike in March-April-May, with a particular jump in April, 2006. GeorgeLouis 06:46, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chart showing editing spike in March, April, May 2006 

message: I rearranged the sections to more closely reflect the template in Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities. Also this article is getting to be quite lengthy. I suggest trimming the history section drastically since it links to a Main article on UCR history.
Sincerely, GeorgeLouis 06:44, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities (and length) 

message: The ones currently listed are outdated.  Latest U.S. News shows UCR even more diverse.  Top 4 in the Nation, Thanks College Watch 20:24, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can someone please update new 2007 US News Diversity facts? 

message: Because the issues outlined in the RFC have essentially been resolved, I think we should withdraw it. I'll go ahead and do that if there are no objections within the next couple of days. szyslak (t, c, e) 06:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  RFC 

message: The UV Towers picture is very misleading because it seems like it is UCR's student housing, except that is is PRIVATE housing, and you don't necessarily have to be a verifed UCR student to live there. I would rather have a picture of the various dorms (AI, Lothian, Pentland Hills, or even family housing) rather than that.
-- Thanks for pointing this out! The previous caption under the picture was misleading, since it said that the UV Towers were student housing, which many people might assume to just mean dorms. Therefore, I reworded the caption under the UV Towers picture to make it clear that the UV Towers are university-sanctioned apartments that are available for students to use. A picture change is a good idea,  but until a new one is put up I think this solves the problem for now. :) Woo tangent 10:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  UV Towers Removal 

message: Hi all. This article has been tagged with a merger proposal. It suggests that the article UC Riverside College of Humanities, Arts and Social Sciences be merged with this article. Since this article is already longer than recommended, I think it would be a better idea to just link to the UC Riverside College of Humanities, Arts, and Social Sciences article. Woo tangent 15:16, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know why that particular subsection of UCR needs a page or a mention at all. It is not Notable, just a part of UCR. I believe it should be deleted. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis 07:55, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree - no merger, just deletion for the other article.  How would we go about doing this the right way?  Has enough time passed that we can remove the merge templates and apply a deletion template?  --ElKevbo 17:43, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I've deleted the merge template from both articles as there was no consensus to merge.  I have also nominated the other article for deletion; please participate in the AFD process.  --ElKevbo 15:24, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge UC Riverside College of Humanities, Arts, and Social Sciences Article? 

message: UCR's official sports mascot are "The Highlanders." It is NOT a "nickname." A nickname has conotations of being unofficial or a title given by another party, which is clearly not true.
"Scotty" is a representative of the Highlander (scottish kilt wearing bear) which is low key name. Ask people on campus, very few people knows who Scotty is, but practically everyone knows about The Highlanders.
:Thank you for your comment. You may be right about the name Scotty. A quick Internet search shows only that the UCR Library has a cataloging system called by that name. An early entry for UCR mascot was simply "A tartan-clad bear." Somebody added Scotty later. It would be helpful if you could find if that bear was ever officially given a name. I'm removing Scotty as a name for the bear until its bona fides can be uncovered. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis 00:11, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, put it in, with both references. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis 06:43, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mascot 

message: I suggest what we remove notable faculty who has no Wikipedia page. They're not really notable if they don't have a page. I feel this should be the minimum standard for being notable, otherwise, any professor can be on that list. Furthermore, I feel that if no user can state why a particular faculty is notable besides being a professor should be removed. I suggest that the following faculty be removed.
*Bir Bhanu — Director of the Center for Research and Intelligent Systems, expert in intelligent systems, computer vision, pattern recognition and learning
*Richard Cardullo — Professor of biology, expert on mammalian fertilization, biophysicist
*Carl Cranor — Professor of legal philosophy, philosophic issues in science and the law, moral philosophy, regulatory policy, political philosophy, and pioneer of toxic tort litigation, serving as reference to federal Judges, elected to U.S. Congress Office of Technology Assessment, the Collegium Ramazzini (international headquarters in Carpi, Italy), and the American Association for the Advancement of Science
*Emory Elliott — American Literature scholar and professor of English
*John Martin Fischer — Distinguished Professor of Philosophy and expert in free will and moral responsibility.
*Paul Hoffman — Professor of early modern philosophy, moral psychology, philosophy of mind, scholar on the Metaphysics of Descartes
*Mark Midland - Professor of chemistry, inventor of the Midland Reagent.
*Antony Norman — Biochemistry professor, vitamin D expert.
*Umar Mohideen — Professor of physics, measured the Casimir Effect
*Walid A. Najjar — Researcher in the field of compilers and reconfigurable computing and professor of computer science
*David Pion-Berlin — Professor of political science, specialty in Latin American studies
*Michael Pirrung - Professor of chemistry and pioneer in the development of microarrays
*Victor Rodgers — Professor of bioengineering
*Jorge Silva-Risso — Professor of marketing and director at marketing research firm J.D. Power and Associates.
*Ivan Strenski — Holstein family and community professor of religious studies
*Clifford Trafzer — Writer and lecturer of Native American studies and history departments.
*Austin Turk — Criminologist and professor of sociology.
*Frank Vahid — Computer scientist and professor of computer science
*Xuemei Chen- Professor of plant cell and molecular biology. Recent Recepient of  the 2006 Charles Albert Shull Award
*Ronald Loveridge- Professor of Political Science and Mayor of Riverside
*Ralph L. Crowder- Historian and Professor of Ethnic Studies
Asian Animal 22:52, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds reasonable to me.  Go for it!  --ElKevbo 23:18, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request to remove some "Notable" faculty 

message: The article does not state that the UV Towers is a part of UCR.  It is a fact that UCR leases some floors for UCR students (check the UCR housing website for reference).  UV Towers is located at University Village, which does have lecture halls in the movie theatres.  I think the image is important because it shows interested and well developed housing options for prospective students.  College Watch 00:07, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  UV Towers image is to remain.  

message: The current section regarding the Highlander mascot should be moved/merged (both sections have the exact same image?!) into Athletics. It is also too lengthy, and those truly wanting to learn about the history of the mascot should just be forwarded to the UCR athletics page about the mascot, since the current section is just a rehash of the information found on that 
Cosecant 01:09, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  Moving most of the information into the athletics article (if there is anything new here) with a link to that article & section sounds like a good idea to me.  --ElKevbo 01:27, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Seconded. Most of the information could be reduced to a one or two line summary with a link.--Amerique dialectics 22:17, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with the proposal to move the mascot history section to the UCR history section. Cosecant 22:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Highlander mascot section change proposal 

message: What happened to the more colorful UCR seal image?  I think that may be better than the current B&W one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by College Watch (talk • contribs) 00:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm inclined to support CW in this case... The "official" seal appears too light. The more colorful seal still appears on some UCR websites, including .--Amerique dialectics 21:14, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, but the new seal looks more like a tracing of a seal, rather than "the seal." It doesn't show up on my screen nearly as well as the seals for the other UC campuses on Wiki, all of which are idiosyncratic to some degree. Also, no other UCR website, to my knowledge, even the recently updated ones, display this new seal. It looks like it was intended to be a watermark or something suggestive of the seal rather than a more prominent visual representation... The previous one, which is still in use at UCR, is far superior, and much better complements the other odd UC seals on this site. this is just my take on it. best, --Amerique dialectics 20:29, 18 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Also if you notice, this new design is inconsistent with the other UC seals, and the previous UCR seal, in that it depicts the "rays of light" as emanating in straight lines from the book itself, rather than arcing around from the star above it. This wouldn't be the first time UCR admin messed something up. I fully support withdrawing this symbol until some UCR websites are actually seen to be using it, which I doubt will happen, as its minimalism, if not a mistake, definitely appears in stark contrast to the more definite (large block letters) and colorful (blue and gold highlights, as opposed to stark b/w) "new unified institutional brand" they apparently want to promote.)--Amerique dialectics 02:22, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Apparently, Chancellor Cordova's office is spearheading adoption of this new symbol:  I wrote a rather strongly worded message on the "Dear Chancellor" feature on her site pointing out how the new seal is inconsistent with previous UCR seals and with the seal of the University of California, not to mention with the graphical standards of the "new, unified institutional brand" she claims to promote. We'll see if this leads to anything. I have no further opinion on this in the meantime. --Amerique dialectics 22:25, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  UC Seal Image 

message: Ok, we even had a discussion page about it. Some of you don't like the new UCR seal, and prefer an older one. But does it make it correct if we show an older seal when the community that edits the page knows that there is a newer, current one (that is even pushed by the current Chancellor)? That by nature, shows that this UCR article has outdated information. 
:*Well, it doesn't make it strictly "incorrect" by showing the old symbol, as the symbol is still in effect on some UCR websites. Besides, the chancellor is clearly incorrect and out of line of UC graphical conventions in pushing this new symbol. I don't think she designs her own websites, she probably just rubberstamped the proposal of her graphic design dept w/o researching the details. --Amerique dialectics 06:17, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *I don't see what the validity of your argument, there is documented changed of the seal by UCR. It doesn't matter if "WE" dislike it, furthermore, it doesn't matter if the UCR seal does not appear to be consistent with the other UC seals. If there is style issues with the seal, it's up to the UC and UCR to resolve and not for the Wikipedia community to decide. Our job is to keep the information as accurate as possible. In my humble opinion it is unethical to knowingly keep information on the page outdated. Asian Animal 03:57, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *For me, it is mainly just a matter of being able to easily make out what the seal is... the chancellor hasn't gone so far as to rescind any old logos, only "encourage" adoption of this one. For whatever reason, she decided that this would help "reduce the fragmented impact of competing messages and logos from outside media..." Way to go about doing that, Chancellor Cordova.--Amerique dialectics 07:48, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The seal

message: http://www.athletics.ucr.edu/administrative/mascot.html
the title is UC Riverside Highlanders mascot. you don't put your nick name on your resume, do you? How many students actually know the nickname of the mascot? read the mascot history, "A write-in campaign, led by the men’s basketball team, was begun for the name “Hylanders,” a name suggested by freshman coed Donna Lewis." 
http://www.catalog.ucr.edu/current/ucr.html
2006-2007 catalog Campus Mascot: 	Highlanders/Scotty the Bear--OCDpatient 23:44, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Official mascot name is HIGHLANDER

message: this is a UCR article, the mascot is a part of UCR pride and spirit. why do you keep deleting it? where should you put it if you delete it? people will want to know what UCR's mascot is, this is the proper article to write about it.
and stop deleting the student newspaper, too. It is a part of UCR. just because there is a link, that is just not enough. otherwise, why do you even bother to write an article about UCR? you can just put a direct link to www.ucr.edu --OCDpatient 23:44, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: stop deleting mascot history