Talk:Hoxton

message: yuppified? no one uses that word in the east end especially not in hoxton!
Gilbert and George 'live' in Spitalfields. Emin lived on Brick Lane.
:Tracey Emin and Gilbert and George live on Fournier Street, Spitalfields. The Chapman Brothers are also based in Spitalfields (Fashion Street). This article refers to residents 'In recent years', but what is the timescale of recent? Randomdaftname 20:29, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 'Fraid 'yuppified' is in use, though I try to avoid it personally. I will not speak for the trendy bit of Hoxton, but it's common enough usage in north Hackney, I hear it all the time. But this piece and Shoreditch need a lot of work anyway. In particular, disentangling Shoreditch and Hoxton needs doing. Plus there is no mention here of the non-trendy parts of Hoxton, which cover a large area, largely estates, but abutting on to the historic market with the Music Hall and all that... Tarquin Binary 16:07, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Yuppified"

message: About half this article describes 'South Shoreditch' rather than Hoxton! As far as I'm aware the southern border of Hoxton has always been Old Street. Therefore to describe the former Shakespearian theatres of Curtain road as being in Hoxton is just plain wrong. The merging of identities between Hoxton and Shoreditch either side of Old street describes a socio-cultural phenomenon (the rise of the 'Shoreditch Twat') which only started in the 90's. To retroject this identity back to the 16th century is incorrect Colin4C 20:35, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hoxton was part of the Metropolitan Borough of Shoreditch until 1965. Historically Shoreditch has until recently been the senior partner in the contested relationship between the two. Thus it is plausible to locate the Britannia Music Hall as in both Hoxton and Shoreditch. What would be wrong though would be to locate Curtain road or (say) Shoreditch High Street as in Hoxton. 'Hoxton' was a sub-species genera of 'Shoreditch' until, as mentioned before, the awesome world-shaking rise of the Shoreditch twat in the 90's gave ShoHo/Hoxditch a distinctive identity of its own. As far as I can make out the latter is an amalgam the southern part of Hoxton (north Hoxton still being off-limits for Twats and/or trend-setters) and 'South Shoreditch', though I have noticed a certain Hoxtonisation (trendy bars etc) of Shoreditch High Street lately. However, I am still puzzled as to whether there is a 'west-Hoxton' or if by going in this direction you re-enter a penumbra of a 'greater Shoreditch'. Maybe someone who lives there could tell us... Colin4C 08:58, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I think, that despite the creation of a Hoxton parish (plus others) out of the original parish of St Leonards, in the 19th century, that authority over the whole area was still invested in the Shoreditch vestry - whose jurisdiction was later subsumed by Shoreditch Borough Council. 
As for West Hoxton/Shoreditch anomaly I was thinking particularly of the presence of Shoreditch Park NW of Hoxton. This is not in ShoHo/Hoxditch either...On a slightly different topic I find that Pimlico used to be in Hoxton, as the name of a pub or brand of ale, before migrating (by stages...) to its present position...Colin4C 10:55, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hoxton and Shoreditch 

message: There's a couple of problems with this edit.
#Hoxton and Shoreditch are world famous as a centre of 'new' art.
#Prior discussion on a number of the Hackney pages has indicated that there is a demand for such a list.
While I absolutely agree that Wiki is not intended to advertise services, or to merely list local services, it does exist to reflect the nature and character of the area. But then, perhaps you didn't read the articles before committing the edits? Kbthompson 08:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wiki not a directory ... 

message: This list includes some attractions in nearby Shoreditch, some in Bethnal Green. The Sho-Ho gallery scene is in constant flux, so the list is by no means complete, and many of the original Hoxton galleries have now moved further afield - as leases expire and gentrification takes its toll
*Victoria Miro Gallery 16 Wharf Road, N1 (private gallery in converted Victorian furniture factory
*Book Works 19 Hollywell Row, EC2 (art publishers)
*Vertigo 62 Great Eastern Street, EC2 (private gallery in former ropeworks)
*Bookart Bookshop 17 Pitfield Street, N1
*Standpoint Gallery 45 Coronet Street, N1 (low cost workshop, studio and exhibition space)
*Deluxe Gallery 2-4 Hoxton Square, N1 (private gallery)
*White Cube2 48 Hoxton Square, N1 (private gallery)
*Dominic Berning First Floor, 1 Hoxton Street, N1 (private gallery)
*Stuckism International 3 Charlotte Road, EC2 (eh, its a movement ...)
*The Agency Gallery 15a Cremer St, EC2 (private gallery) Haggerston
*INIVA 6-8 Standard Place, Rivington Street, EC2
*Vilma Gold now in Bethnal Green (private gallery)
*Modern Art now (apparently) in Bethnal Green (private gallery)
*T 1&2 Artspace Bedford House, Wheler Street, E1 (private gallery off Brick Lane)
*Flowers East 82 Kingsland Road, E2 (private gallery)
*Wiebke Morgan Gallery 6 Cyprus Street, E2 Bethnal Green? (private gallery)
*Century Gallery ACAVA, 1-15 Cremer Street, E2 (private gallery)
*Geffrye Museum Kingsland Road, E2 (furniture & domestic life)
*The Alpine Club 55 Charlotte Road, EC2A (exhibitions on mountains and climbing)
*The Centre of Attention is a not-for-profit artists organisation, now in Upper Clapton
*Cell Project Space now in Bethnal Green
*MW Projects 43B Mitchell Street, EC1 (private gallery near Old Street
*Neon Gallery 117 Commercial Street, E1 (private gallery)
Most private galleries are free, but it is normally best to contact them first to check both the exhibition and if there is a need to make an appointment. The information here has been verified in October 2006
This has now been put back in the article, see UK geography 'Places of Interest' for justification as per wiki UK policy.
Kbthompson 14:53, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed it again, as it is much too long, impossible to keep up to date, and there are plenty of websites that offer arts listings. There is already an overemphasis on art in the article, as galleries etc can only be really found at the south end of Hoxton and. From a quick survey, maybe two or three galleries at most on the list are even in hoxton anyway.  78.86.18.55 (talk) 12:56, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cultural Attractions in Hoxton & around 

message: The link to the toy museum is currently labelled Pollack's Toy Museum. I'm pretty sure this is either vandalism or a typo for POLLOCK's - or have I just stepped into a minefield? Pterre (talk) 19:43, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Victorian era and the 20th Century: Toy museum 

message: The "New North Road" boundary seems a little far east to me. For example
the Church of the Holy Trinity is located in Hoxton, and is some way to the west of the stated boundary.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by EdwardLockhart (talk • contribs) 12:14, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Western Boundary 

message: Hadouken! refers to hoxton heroes as wearing skinny fit jeans and dressed in pink. Should this be included?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Khanelias (talk • contribs) 09:46, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's both a bit too peripheral to the topic; and WP:TRIVIA - which is generally discouraged in articles. Notable references would be an entire novel, or film, set in Hoxton. Even then they would need references to indicate some 'cultural importance'. HTH Kbthompson (talk) 11:58, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Hoxton Hero

message: In the video game Payday: The Heist there is a playable character nicknamed Hoxton, because he got busted doing a crime there. I don't know if this is worth noting on this page, but the game itself is pretty popular. 95.96.128.2 (talk) 12:47, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Payday: The Heist]] 

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message: The statement that '...it is often described as part of the East End' needs to be qualified & sourced. It is not supported in the body of the article. It's a long time since I lived in London, but the map shows Hoxton almost exactly central in Greater London, and the lead states it is north of the City, which is about as central as you can get. I don't doubt the statement, '...is often described...', we just need to know by whom it is or was so described. I've tagged it. 
Several other articles on nearby districts (Hackney, Shoreditch, Bethnal Green etc.) make similar unreferenced 'East End' statements. Needs a London geographer/historian. , can you help? --D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 02:28, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Would also be interesting to know whether this is historical usage—when London was much smaller—or current or both. --D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 02:36, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: This is discussed in East End of London, and I've copied a couple of references from there (unfortunately without specific page numbers). Hoxton is undoubtedly widely regarded/promoted as being in the East End, albeit on the extremes of its north-western perimeter. Yes, it's north of the City, but the City isn't the same as Central London, and hasn't been for some 400 years: the notional "centre" of London is the West End (or, specifically, Charing Cross). GrindtXX (talk) 13:33, 9 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  East End?