Talk:John Couey

message: This guy is only 47, but at first glance, you would think his age had switched digits.
Was Miss Lunsford murdered on March 18, 2005, or did Mr. Couey confess on March 18, 2005?  The article (stub) is a bit unclear.
Jessica Lunsford was a victim. There needs to be more sensitivity within this article! She was tortured, and does not need to be tortured after death by being described in this manner. Human decency please.
This is an encyclopedia, not a sensitivity article. Perhaps on the Jewish World War II pages we should take out references to concentration camps. After all, they were tortured too, correct?
These are the facts. Like it or not, they are the facts. That's what Wiki is about.65.184.18.231 03:42, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: This article

message: Firstly, I read the referenced links (footnotes 7 and 8), which lead to portals, not to specific articles, and so cannot be considered to be valid references.  Please update these links to specific articles or remove them.  
To the point, what do the statements about whether the girl was a virgin, or experienced, or enjoying sexual intercourse, have to do with whether she was kidnapped, raped and buried alive?  Whether she enjoyed it or not is completely irrelevant, since a 9 y.o. girl cannot consent to sex with an adult.  This whole paragraph is a red herring, not germane, is salacious, and could be considered to be slanderous to her father and family unless it is presented in full context, which it is not.  
Just because the perp said it, does not make it relevant information.  After all, this guy colored with crayons during his trial.  If you think the sourced information indicates the girl was molested previously, refer it to the appropriate authorities. Veriss1 02:58, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO - Specific comments like that would be relevant if they at some point were the focus of any sort of significant commentary, either in the courtroom or in the media; for example, if there were a controversy over admission of evidence, or there were a media firestorm over it being deemed outrageously offensive, or something else.  I haven't been following this particular case enough to know whether that applies here. --Delirium 02:23, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

text: It makes no difference to the evil, sadistic, horrific nature of Couey or his crimes whether or not she had previously been raped by someone else or that he was below average intelligence. The large majority of criminals are of below average intelligence. Jim Michael (talk) 23:03, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  How is speculation from her alleged kidnapper about her virginity relevant? 

message: By the way, we need to add a banner at the top saying that it documents a current event and maybe a possible temporary protection.
-Domovoi 21:14, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Guilty on all counts

message: On March 7, 2007... The jury deliberated for four hours, tasked with recommending either life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty...
On March 14, 2007, a jury recommended Couey be put to death after about 1 hour and 15 minutes of deliberation.
So, what is "four hours", what is "1 hour and 15 minutes" and why is there a 7-day gap? The section should be revised for clarity.
24.16.33.146 20:58, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Timing unclear

message: Did Couey plead guilty, not guilty, or no contest in the trial? I'm looking for it, but if someone can help find that information and add it to the article, that would be greeeeeeat, thaaaaaanks. - Brian Kendig 16:02, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How did he plead? 

message: I have deleted the names of persons with whom John Couey was living and the address where he was staying because those persons are apparently innocent of the crime, even if such is well-known fact in some circles. Deletions of their names and their address is necessary for the protection of the privacy of the innocent.--Paul from Michigan 21:14, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted reference 

message: Let's see: On March 7th, "The jury deliberated for four hours, tasked with recommending either life in prison without the possibility of parole or the death penalty...". 
But wait!! "A week later, after about one hour and 15 minutes of deliberation, a jury recommended Couey be put to death."
Hang on -- "On August 11, 2007, a jury overseeing the Lunsford case voted 10-2 that Couey be eligible for the death sentence."
Not good!
BibblyBobb (talk) 03:42, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timing still unclear 

message: "On August 24, 2007, Couey was sentenced by Circuit Judge Richard Howard to death, as well as three consecutive life terms for his crimes. In accordance with Florida State Law, the death sentence will automatically be appealed."
Wait, wait, wait. This sentence says Couey was sentenced to death and yet in the next sentence says his death sentence would be automatically appealed... how? -PatPeter 23:46, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sentenced to death doesn't mean put to death.  It can take years before a death sentence is carried out. Katharineamy (talk) 16:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction 

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