Talk:Protest Warrior/Archive 13

message: PW was supposed to take part in a rally last weekend.
CNS
News reports and Free Republic make no mention that any Protest Warriors actually showed up. They mention all the other groups  that said  they would take part, but not Protest Warrior. Is this because, yet again, Protest Warrior failed to attend one of their own 'operations' due to lack of support?
[www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1707240/posts?q=1&&page=1 Free Republic]
Wash Times
Where ARE the after-action reports and pictures from the Protest Warriors - of this event that they were supposed to take part in?
When WAS the last PW 'operation' as documented on the Protest Warrior website?
NBGPWS 21:17, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Their forums seem to be down too, and their site hasn't been updated in months. The manifesto still talks about the upcoming 2004 Republican National Congress in New York. Axeman89 00:15, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Last month called; they want their topic back.  The organization is still running, even though the public forums are not.  It's not as active as it was in it's heyday, but it's still around.  Rogue 9 04:14, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protest Warrior still in operation? 

message: I've done a quick clean-up of the article. I changed from HTML to wikisyntax in a few places, copyedited for style, removed some POV, etc. The article is not up to scratch yet, even I haven't made any goofs in this edit. We probably should restructure it with fewer headings, for one thing. We should add Billionaires for Bush and Communists for Kerry to the See also list.
I'll explain 3 of my changes in detail:
(1) I moved this sentence here:
:Finally there is a vocal group that defends the right of the southern states to secede at the start of the American Civil War and also supports at least in speech the dissolution of the United States of America to preserve true liberty. 
Folks, it is completely unacceptable to label even part of PW as pro-slavery with no freaking evidence!. (That is, if you have evidence that some PWers defend southern succession but not that they are pro-slavery, you can say that some PWers defend southern succession but you need to avoid any implication of racism. Of course, if you found evidence that PW leadership was knowingly tolerating members who spread racist propoganda via PW, that would be a different thing. (Incidentally, it is quite likely that some of the Racist Far-right would try to use PW as a recruiting ground; they use left-wing groups that way too.)
(2) Re numbers at RNC 2004: MTV quotes Alfia as saying "there's 200 of us" but has nothing else about how many were there at the time, so I went with 200.
(3) I removed some external links that were dead, outdated or "contain[ed] factually inaccurate material or unverified original research" (from WP:EL#Links normally to be avoided, #2).
Cheers, CWC(talk) 15:07, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can understand Communists For Kerry, but Billinaires for Bush bears no relation to Protest Warrior as far as I know, other than the fact that they might have crossed paths at the RNC. Ruthfulbarbarity 23:36, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking of groups that use culture jamming or something similar — that is, making political points through subversive humor, looking at their method rather than their message. No big deal. CWC(talk) 00:35, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Re numbers at RNC 2004: Derex is right and I was wrong. Kfir said "there's 200 of us" at the meeting on the evening before the protest, so that number is just a prediction. Cheers, CWC(talk) 06:19, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean-up, October 2006