Talk:Raul Hilberg

message: Nicely done, Buffyg! El_C 11:24, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Nicely done

message: I did a bit of a copy edit. There seems to have been confusion about the references section. Books by  him come under Bibliography or Works. References (called Sources by some editors) should list books or articles used as sources of information in the article, even if they repeat some of the material in Bibliography. Further reading should list any books or articles of further interest, which are not in either of the other two sections. I can't fix it, because I don't know which books were used as sources. SlimVirgin (talk) 09:02, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Functionalist/intentionalist: thanks, Viz, I missed those ones. SlimVirgin (talk) 17:55, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: I added a <citation needed> tag to that statement, as there is no source to support that and no other reference within the article itself or the article's discussion page. Hilberg is obviously a Germanic name, so at least one of his ancestors must have had Germanic roots and a reverse migration from Romania is not supported by historical facts. I would like to see some sources to support that fact. There is a reference to this in a Haaretz article (http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/907398.html), but while Haaretz is an excellent newspaper, it too needs to have its sources cited and cannot be independently cited as evidence, especially since I could not find any other reference. It could as well be that Haaretz copied from the Wikipedia article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sufitul (talk • contribs) 17:23, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have eliminated your request for a source for the Polish-Romanian ancestry once more. I wrote most of the article, and got that information from Yehuda Bauer's article in Ha'aretz. You may footnote the source from the Ha'aretz article if you think it requires one, but Yehuda Bauer is a great historian, was a personal friend of Hilberg's, and made his remark in a reliable source. Ha'aretz did not get the information from wiki, wiki, via my edit, got it from Ha'aretz. Your questioning the veracity of what Bauer states is legitimate as a personal suspicion: but Wiki does not require 'the truth' it requires simply Reliable Sources for textual edits, and both Bauer and Ha'aretz fit those requirements. If you independently do come up with detail that contradicts Bauer's testimony, by all means revise the text. Nishidani (talk) 09:42, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Polish-Romanian?

message: * Edward Bernays: Crystallizing Public Opinion
:Austerlitz -- 88.72.27.216 (talk) 17:57, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because you gave no reason for its inclusion. Nishidani (talk) 18:10, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Why have you removed this book from further reading?

message: Perhaps wants some simplification?
"For Hilberg there was deep irony in the judgment since Arendt's opinion of his manuscript, that it dealt with things one no longer spoke about, had influenced the rejection slip he received from Princeton University Press following its submission, thus effectively denying him the prestigious auspices of a mainstream academic publishing house."
Syr0 (talk) 07:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sentence makes very little sense to me

message: There should be a contents menu with all the headlines. Where is it? I don't know how to add one. Shoplifter (talk) 12:01, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It was removed on this edit, by adding the expression __NOTOC__. See also Help:Section#Table of contents (TOC). It is sometimes more pleasant to remove a TOC, e.g. if most of the headlines are divides between the lower, supplemental sections of an article. In this case, I guess the user was bothered by the large white area following a thin intro. It should probably be thickened, by I restated the TOC. trespassers william (talk) 16:30, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is the contents box? 

message: I am french speaking and came to know Hillberg precisely through Lanzmann' "Shoah", in which he gives a lengthy interview. I was thus puzzled to read the following quote : "Hilberg was the only person not directly involved in the Holocaust interviewed for Claude Lanzmann's Shoah.". What do you mean by that, since precisely, he is interviewed in that film ? Thanks, it's a candid question !
:: I mean that he was the only person who wasn't directly involved (i.e., belonging to either group perpetrator-victim-bystander) in the Holocaust interviewed for the film. Shoplifter (talk) 18:16, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hillberg and Lanzmann 

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message: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2q51wqEE1fM
Heres the man himself, surprised this famous censored confession is not mentioned on the page at all. 
In 1976, I went to a small town in Bavaria, Ludwigsburg, which has the headquarters for investigations of so-called National Socialist crimes, an office maintained by the provinces of the Federal Republic of Germany. About thirty prosecutors were housed in that particular building, and I went there to study court records, various affidavits, and other materials. But one afternoon, they said, “We’re having a party today, would you join us?” Why, yes. They said, “we have one bottle of wine for each person.” (laughter from the audience). And after a while I chanced to talk to the deputy chief of that office, and I said to him this: I’ve been troubled by one question. And I’m afraid that I went into print with something that isn’t entirely accurate. And that is the role of Adolf Hitler himself in the annihilation of the Jewish people in Europe. Now, I know that you are only concerned here with live individuals, and that you do not investigate the dead.
But still … what do you think?
“Ach,” he said, “we’ve often fantasized about drawing up an indictment against Adolf Hitler himself. And to put into that indictment the major charge: the Final Solution of the Jewish question in Europe, the physical annihilation of Jewry. And then it dawned upon us, what would we do? We didn’t have the evidence.”
And he laughed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.83.21 (talk) 12:37, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: No confession there.  This is just a misrepresentation by extracting a section of something longer without context. Typical holocaust denial BS. Zerotalk 13:46, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Only someone unfamiliar with Hilberg's work could spin that to be a 'confession'. Crap.Nishidani (talk) 21:16, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd confession from censored pbs show. 

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message: Hello.  I'm confused about his draft age and military service.  He would have been 16 in 1942?  Is it implied he served in 1944?  Anyone know about this?  Thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:18E8:3:10AF:F000:0:0:465 (talk) 21:03, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Draft Age

message: e.g.here. The edit summary is flawed. What on earth is meant by suggesting Finkelstein is a 'non-mainstream writer'? His most recent book 2017 was published by the University of California Press. Nishidani (talk) 13:56, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expunging Finkelstein