Talk:Renato M. E. Sabbatini

message: Professor Sabbatini sounds like a great person, but wikipedia has a policy against writing autobiographies. Wikipedia:Auto-biography This article should be converted into a userpage.   -Willmcw 00:05, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this policy unclear? -Willmcw 04:34, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume that question isn't directed toward me? --allie 19:32, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not unless you are user:Rsabbatini or article subject "Renato M.E. Sabbatini".  Cheers, -Willmcw 19:43, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither, and deleted his name as "author" of the Cesare Lombroso page. Put in a vanity vfd yesterday, hence the query. Best regards, --22:39, 24 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Autobio

message: This article was nominated for deletion by editor GoOdCoNtEnT who has been seemingly randomly asking people to nominate someonne for deletion and then arguing not to delete them, see here. I've removed the deletion notice. Nrets 20:29, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Troll? 

message: Almost everything in this article is unsourced, or the sources cited are organization's websites saying nothing about Sabbatini or what's asserted in the article.  Most of these statements are true no doubt, but that's not good enough -- for inclusion they must be verified by reliable, independent sources (not websites of defunct magazines founded by Sabbatini, or other Wikipedia articles written by Sabbatini and also unsourced).  This will mean some things must be omitted, but quite bluntly if there's no independent source for a given thing Sabbatini did -- if there's been no independent comment on it -- then it's probably not worth mentioning anyway.  This doesn't mean Dr. Sabbatini himself isn't notable, but all this talk of "first" and "pioneering" and so on is completely out of place on Wikipedia, particularly since the subject himself wrote most of such text. A much, much scaled-down article is needed, relating notable activities, not everything Sabbatini ever did (such as being secretary of some organization, with no particular accompolishment being called out -- and verified -- as being achieved via his efforts in that position).  Sabbatini can put additional material on his user page if he wants; see Wikipedia:Auto-biography which, yes, is a guideline not a policy, but which people ignore at significant cost to all of us, as it well explains.    Upsala (talk) 17:59, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Almost completely unsourced 

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