Talk:Sister Lúcia

message: This page is in need of a serious clean-up, frequent use of words like "apostate," and "so-called" for Vatican II, show a pretty serious POV issue here. The Second Vatican Council wasn't so-called, it was the second Vatican Council. It might have been the greatest movement of the Church in 100 years, or it might have been a plot from the devil himself, but whatever it was, it ceratinly was Vatican II. Several authors of this article have some pretty clear views, and they shine through in the article. NPOV needs to be established, and so I am going to be bold, as per Wikipedia's rules, and do a bit of cleaning up, especially the parts that involve doctinal name-calling. Morgaledth 03:58, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean up Needed

message: De Marchi and Jaki do not "disagree" in any sense concerning descriptions of the miracle of the sun. Jaki includes discussions of all of the sources that De Marchi used and many, many more. De Marchi only cites a few witness accounts, while Jaki has filled his entire book with witness accounts. In fact, that is most of what the book is about. There is no disagreement here. Different people described the phenomena in different ways. The "fire wheel" became a common expression. For example:
But in front of me was a woman with a white felt hat which I used as a mirror to see what was happening to the king of stars [the sun]. This lasted about 20 minutes. Meanwhile I heard someone by my side crying, imploring, and saying that the sun was turning around like a wheel of fire. - Senhor Silva (Jaki, 69-71)
…that he looked at the sun and saw that it turned into different colors, coming close and gyrating like a fire wheel. He saw three times that phenomenon. -Romano de Santos (Jaki, 87)
Romano was one of the witnesses to give a sworn deposition in front of the parish priest of Porto. Jaki writes, of the rest of them, "Of the remaining ten witnesses all, except the third and fourth, used the expression ‘fire wheel’ (roda de fogo)...The word 'fire wheel' had become by then a standard expression to describe what the sun had appeared to do. Their testimonies nowhere contradicted one another. The differences related only to details, an all too normal case in truthful multiple testimonies." (Jaki, 87)
Maria de Capela's description cited in De Marchi contains the same language: It turned everything different colors, yellow, blue, white, and it shook and trembled; it seemed like a wheel of fire which was going to fall on the people. (De Marchi, pg. 136 in my edition)
::While I don't dispute the accuracy of your quote, for the record - which book (title, publisher, year) of De Marchi are you using? Svp28 (talk) 01:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Miracle of the Sun

message: If this claim is based on a comparison of photos, these photos should be included (if permissible) or at least linked to so that the reader can make a comparison.  I don't subscribe to the theory, so I'll cite three photos here.  If anyone is inclined, they can make use of them.
*Child Lucia
*Young Sr. Lucia
*Elderly Sr. Lucia
AAT17 (talk) 21:20, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion of Imposter 

message: The photograph captions and the links at the bottom give her name as Lucia dos Santos. The text clearly states otherwise. I didn't make any changes because I don't know which is correct.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bruce A. WIlliamson (talk • contribs) 17:00, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Inconsistencies in Lucia's name

message: I have re-instated the following wording:
I have done this because to remove those three words would be to take a particular, Catholic point of view (and not shared by all Catholics), and would violated the requirement that articles be neutral in their perspective.  If this is problematic, please discuss it here.  Thanks! -- Lear's Fool (talk | contribs) 15:08, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "witnessed" versus "claimed to have witnessed" 

message: Should I make a section regarding two letters Sr. Lucia wrote concerning the Fatima consecration? 
You can find the letters here: Letters of Sr. Lucia Santos, OCD on the Consecration (EWTN)
Oct13 (talk) 07:05, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, I made "Memoirs" and "Letters" subsections instead. Oct13 (talk) 04:46, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Letters 

message: Some of the information on this page is cited as <reference>Fatima.org</reference>. This is advertisement and bias.
The Third Secret of Fatima section is unnecessary, since there's already a link to the Three Secrets of Fatima article. As such, I deleted the section and added the most relevant information to the Life in the convent section. 
Oct13 (talk) 04:47, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fatima.org  

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thread_title:  External links modified 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion 

message: An IP has continually added a link to the above mentioned site to "source" some contentious material. I don't know a lot about the subject however looking at the website, it appears to be the project of armchair detectives and I don't see how on it's own, it is a reliable source and in fact, it appears to be WP:NOR. I have asked in my edit summaries and left a 3rr warning on the IPs talk page but so far, they have not brought it to a discussion. Praxidicae (talk) 14:44, 17 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  sisterlucyimposter.org