Talk:Jim McKay

message: We have 95 year old people in gyms, and others have lived to be 120.  He died of a specific cause or causes, which should be stated properly.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.193.144.79 (talk) 17:16, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Most old people die of cancer of some kind, but there are many possibilities. I suspect that the family will not be releasing his medical records. Perhaps "died of causes related to old age" might satisfy you? Be reasonable... Proxy User (talk) 07:29, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the causes of death change quite a bit between the group of "elderly" aged 65-74 and the group aged 75 and older. And there are very few people 95 years old in gyms and even fewer live to 120, so it's a huge stretch to say since a very few live this to that age, that the others must have a definitive cause of death. Any doctor will tell you that all death is caused by heart and respiratory failure. What causes that failure is varied. Various types of coronary diseases account for about 1/3 of all deaths over the age of 65. Cancer is the cause of around 20%, followed by stroke or cerebrovascular disease, then chronic lower respiratory diseases, including chronic bronchitis, emphysema, asthma, and other chronic lower respiratory diseases. Then comes influenza and pneumonia, Alzheimer’s disease, diabetes, kidney diseases, accidents, and septicemia. The numbers vary based on exact age groups, ethnic groups, gender, location. Meanwhile the death rate for those aged 65-74 has decreased by about 12% and for those 75-84 decreased by about 7%. The rate of death for those over 85 has changed little. Meanwhile, as age increases, the causality is less likely to be noted. There are lots of reasons for that. For example, families may be more likely to opt for post-mortem exams for someone 66 than someone 86. And finally, sometimes people do just die. I've seen autopsy reports for many elderly people whose cause of death could not be determined even in the best autopsies. A combination of factors work to just cause the heart to stop beating. Those are sometimes called "natural causes," which means "they died, we don't know for sure why." If the family of Mr. McKay opted not to explore the reasons for his death, then there will not be a more definitive cause of death given. This is what was released, and that is properly stated, as it was given in his obituary notices. I agree, be reasonable - or more to the point, don't be ridiculous. Wildhartlivie (talk) 08:48, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
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message: What exactly is a "call'? --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 20:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll assume this is a genuine question.  A "Call" is a play by play broadcaster relating a noteworthy event usually in a noteworthy way. For example at the end of the USA v. USSR 1980 Olympic hockey game, part of Al Michaels "call" was the famous phrase "Do you believe in miracles".--Cube lurker (talk) 21:58, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
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