Talk:Islamic University of Gaza

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message: During fighting between Hamas and Fatah, the dominating party in the Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO), in February 2007,  Fatah militia stormed the university and confiscated weapons and ammunition that were claimed to be stored in the University.   Palestinian  television  aired footage showing  dozens of rocket-propelled grenade launchers, rockets, and assault rifles, as well as thousands of bullets.   PA President Mahmoud Abbas's officials  claimed that the weaponry had  been found inside the university though no evidence has been presented.
Attention is needed for this section. Particularly, the following questions are raised on the value of the contents in the context of the overall article: 
* There is not evidence, even in the cited material, that these weapons are really found in the University. In particular, such claims were so frequent at the time and both parties claimed to find weapons at each others institutions. 
* Also, contributors need to be aware of that Fatah is only one party in the PLO which has many other parties within it. The conflict that happened in Gaza after Hamas's domination of the Palestinian Legislative Council was particularly between Hamas and Fatah only.
Therefore, further attention is needed for this part.
:I've replaced the section, with three sources (two of which were in the original section, and one quoted elsewhere in the article). The section clearly states the position of Fatah in the Palestinian government, and that the claims were made by Fatah/PLO. Gidyn (talk) 07:26, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the weasel words from this paragraph. If there is any counter-evidence, or if the University are seriously denying it, please add this to the section. If "such claims were so frequent at the time" that the credibility of the story should be doubted, please state so explicitly, with a credible source.Gidyn (talk) 07:45, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Fatah confiscation of Hamas weapons cache in 2007

message: Well-documented material about weapons production in the university's science labs has been repeatedly excised from this absurdly sanitized article.Historicist (talk) 20:23, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Weapons production

message: User 139.19.40.77 is repeatedly blanking out large swathes of sourced material. If you have reason to believe that these sections should not be present, please present your reasoning here. Do not delete others' work simply because you do not like it. Gidyn (talk) 06:55, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Section Blanking

message: Please, the link Usul AL-Din should be fixed as Usul al-Din. Thanks--188.152.134.61 (talk) 07:18, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Link

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thread_title:  removing POV template without ongoing discussion per [[Template:POV]] instructions 

message: The section it is stated:
"These photos were taken prior to the fighting beginning in 2007"
If the buildings look different, why not just replace the pictures?
(If they look the same, then that sentance is irrelavent.)
I found a nice wideveiw shot of the campus on the universities website here
http://www.iugaza.edu.ps/%D8%B9%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A9/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%A3%D8%AE%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B1/%D8%AA%D9%81%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%8A%D9%84-%D8%A7%D9%84%D9%85%D9%88%D8%B6%D9%88%D8%B9/id/23133
(It seems to include the building in the last photo (Main conference hall).
And some additional pictures on this page:
http://www.iugaza.edu.ps/%D8%B9%D9%86-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B9%D8%A9/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AD%D9%8A%D8%A7%D8%A9-%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AC%D8%A7%D9%85%D8%B9%D9%8A%D8%A9-/%D8%AC%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A7%D8%AA-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D9%86%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%85%D9%8A%D8%A9
(Some of the buildings seem to be unchanged)
Yaakovaryeh (talk) 05:19, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  photos section is outdated? 

message: Sigh. I usually stay out of this hornet's nest but this is a pretty clear one. The article is inappropriately divided. The lead makes no mention whatseover of alleged links to Hamas or terrorism while this particular section makes it sound like the University is Hamas' headquarters. Whatever happens in the lead, this section is in a bad state. Let me give some examples of its current problems:
*"The Islamic University has close links with Hamas."
:*Very first sentence. No source provided, but rather it is followed by a number of claims that supposedly prove this. It certainly amounts to original research.
*"many Hamas members have taught within the university"
:*Unsourced, unspecified. Non-info.
*"A 2007 article about USAID funding of organisations having links to terrorism cites American, Palestinian and Israeli evidence of connections between the university and Hamas."
:*Strategically doesn't mention that it was an opinion piece by The Washington Institute for Near East Policy, a think tank accused of being very close to AIPAC (yes, I see the irony in this statement).
*"There are also clear contemporary links. For example, ..."
:*Again, this is original research accompanying an assertion. Not appropraite on Wikipedia, especially not on such a controversial topic. "Clear" is furthermore unnecessary editorializing here.
*"the new and reshuffled ministers in the Gaza cabinet announced by Hamas in March 2011 hold faculty positions at the university."
:*Source for this (now broken) is the Palestinian embassy and I can't find it anywhere else. Amounts to actual original research of a primary source if someone actually started comparing names.
:Nevertheless, some Palestinian academics have denied that the university is in any respect a Hamas institution.
:*Editorializing is again utilized here to make a point. There is no need for the combination "nevertheless", "some", "have denied" and "in any respect". There's no need for this sentence at all actually.
:"Writing for the Middle East Children's Alliance, Palestinian Academics Marcy Newman and Akram Habeeb claim that"
:*The first time the word "claim" is used in the section is for the opposing view. Goes right into WP:CLAIM. Marcy Newman isn't even Palestinian.
At least the second section is a bit better. I guess I'll tag it for now. Bataaf van Oranje (Prinsgezinde) (talk) 11:55, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Problems in "Relationship with Hamas" section

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message: While I realize that everybody gotta lay down their marker about Israel-Palestine, this article is about a university, not about Palestinian politics or the Israeli occupation. The articles on Harvard and Princeton don't highlight British colonial rule or the current governors of the relevant states in their first paragraphs. Neither should this one. PaulCHebert (talk) 02:02, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founded under Israeli military rule/currently in Hamas-ruled Gaza 

message: No reason was given for this obviously inappropriate edit. Which of course should be reverted. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Islamic_University_of_Gaza&diff=1184860269&oldid=1184848920 2603:7000:2101:AA00:75E7:88D4:BE1C:6EBE (talk) 04:53, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I can see there are references in the section titles. This is not the right place for them, so I suppose they should all be moved to the end of the paragraphs. Obviously someone should check that they indeed confirm what is written in the article. Alaexis¿question? 09:27, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inappropriate editing 

message: "He was appointed UNESCO chair for Physical and Astrophysical sciences in Palestine and was named on the "top 2% of scientists worldwide identified by Stanford University" list in 2021 ." Source hard to check - are there no other accessibale sources, e.g from UNESCO tehmsselves? 84.138.96.192 (talk) 18:47, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sufyan Tayeh