Talk:2004 European Parliament election

message: I've deleted the list of candidates for one specific party as we are not including specific lists for other parties. Election law is quite clear on this that once the lists of candidates are published (which was today, in the UK anyway) then you must not be seen to favour one party / list / candidate over another and must promote each equally, unless you are promoting that party / list / candidate, in which case you must have an election imprint on the documents / websites / etc. Rather than create lists for every party it seems safer therefore to remove this one link. The country links would appear to meet the legal requirements. --VampWillow 10:57, 2004 May 15 (UTC)
I've had to do this again (twice). I am sure that users only have the best of reasons to want to list the candidates they support but unless it is signed off and has a proper imprint authorised by that party (and Wikipedia taking responsibility for it too). To list *all* the candidates for a particular country is fine ('equal weight') and to provide links to manifesto's without giving a list of policies on here is also acceptable, but to prioritise single parties can't be safely permitted (until after the ballot closes after the 13th) --VampWillow 10:06, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth I agree wholeheartedly. UK election law is now very strict on this - the alternatives are to provide equal weight to every party or none at all (or to include a party imprint). And we can't add them piecemeal - they have to go on either all in one go or not at all. Toby W 14:27, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: SFAIAA [So far as I am aware] most other European countries have similar legisltation or rules to our PPERA [Political Parties, Elections and Referendums Act]. --VampWillow 15:20, 1 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Candidates 

message: Could someone tell me the point of moving this page and its talk page to a new location with an additional comma? seems rather a waste of effort and, to some degree, pointless as as a search term or 'guess the link' entry the comma is unilikly to be there --VampWillow 23:27, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved the page because almost all other election pages on wikipedia are named this way. It's for standardization. --Jiang 23:28, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure I agree personally - have posted on Village Pump for wider comments though. --VampWillow 23:48, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)

text: I agree with Jiang's move, in the interests of standardisation (see List of election results -- the vast majority are like that). As long as the redirect's there (and it is, of course), there's no real harm done. –Hajor 01:40, 11 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: MOVE

message: I've just commented out a Slovenian party who failed to get a seat, as I'd suggest that the information isn't really relevant on a European level (such comments would seem more appropriate on a country-specific page, to me). I'm in two minds as to the percentages by party (see Slovenia's EPP/ED column); I'd suggest that the table would look better listing seats as 1+2+3+4, but percentages as an aggregate for each European Parliament grouping. Apart from anything else, the percentages are quite wide, so either stretch the column (if one omits spaces between the results) or stretch the row (if they wrap onto multiple lines). I'm not quite sure, though, as the data aren't really superfluous, just a little ugly (imho) and in a table that is already quite data-heavy. Opinions? :o)  — OwenBlacker 21:55, Jun 14, 2004 (UTC)
: I don't mind -- just make it nice!  -- Kaihsu 22:07, 2004 Jun 14 (UTC)
: Three Slovenian politicial parties were part of the EPP-ED, but only two of them made it into the European parliament. Should the percentage of the third one then be summed together with the winning ones or not? --Romanm 10:42, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parties who fail to get a seat 

message: A sentence read as follows: <quote>in Great Britain, closed lists are used; in Northern Ireland, there is the Single Transferable Vote.</quote>
Bobblewik changed "Great Britain" to "United Kingdom", but I reverted the change. This is because the sentence referred specifically to Great Britain - i.e. England, Scotland and Wales - and not to the United Kingdom - i.e. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. The point being made is that, within the UK, Northern Ireland uses a different system (STV) from the system used by Great Britain (closed list). Toby W 12:58, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: You're absolutely right. I'll make that change now. Toby W 20:56, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  UK vs GB 

message: Somebody might look at Members of the European Parliament 2004-2009 and note that most of the country pages linked from there are of the "2004 - 2009" form.  It looks a bit of a mess to me. --Henrygb 23:21, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It is still not tidy (there are a mass of redirects), but it is now better.  --Henrygb 00:09, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: "2004-2009" v. "2004 - 2009"

message: I find it very confusing that there's no results breakdown which shows country, party and EP grouping which reflects the partliament as it is today, the one on this page is quite confusing in that it's not particularly explicit that these results show the breakdown using the old groups. (PS: the European Parliament page doesn't show a breakdown by country/party/group either, the only way of finding it is clicking on each party and seeing it seperately). It's especially confusing when you go to the linked party articles, for instance, the Liberal Democratic Party (Lithuania) is, on the results table a member of ELDR, yet in the article it states its UEN, which from the perspective of someone who doesn't know much about the Liberal Democratic Party of Lithuania, seems very odd. -- Joolz 23:31, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Results breakdown

message: Is it right to have the ITS group listed on this page? We are talking about the 04 results, ITS was created in 2007. Are political groups really retroactive? I would revert it but I can't find its original format, anyone know when it was done? Unless you disagree? - J Logan t/c: 14:03, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ITS 

message: The article contains two tables: one for the 2004 estimated result, one for the 2007 notional result. The author has attempted to explain the methodology in the footnotes, and I thank him/her for that, but it's not precise enough. If the table contains a figure of (say) 1,234,567 then it genuinely needs a cite to something that either says "1,234,567", or two cites to something that says "1,200,000" and "34,567" and a line that says 1234567 = 1200000 + 34567. Sorry for this, but in its present uncited state, the tables are unusable and I've inserted an "original research" tag on them. I appreciate that the figure will have been compiled from a wide set of figures and that citing it back will be difficult, but it genuinely needs that kind of audit trail. Right now, I'm looking at a table that says "this has been compiled from official figures"...well, which official figures, where are the citations to them, and how did you get from the official figures to the ones in the tables? Anameofmyveryown 07:18, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Where do those numbers come from?

message: The heading in the infobox talks of a "majority party".  There is, of course, no majority party, there is a largest party with nowhere approaching a majority, but I cannot find where to edit this.  14:38, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Majority" Party 

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