Talk:Jews of Bilad el-Sudan

message: I think the Hebrew should read יהודי, not יהודים. Let me know, TewfikTalk 22:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right.  I am going to make some additions to this page soon.  I really want to put the title in Judeo Arabic, so I am going to update the Hebrew when I have time.  Thanks for checking.--EhavEliyahu 00:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and changed the title to the Judeo-Arabic for the term.--EhavEliyahu 14:48, 9 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Hello. The reason that the vowels are there is because it is Judeo Arabic. That is a mixture of Hebrew and Arabic, but in Hebrew script. The vowels are there just like in a number of other articles where it is needed to facilitate a pronunciation that is particular to Judeo-Arabic and not to Hebrew. It partially depends of what kind of computer you use. I have used some computers where the vowels and consenants look find, and other computers where it looked garbled. I will see if other wiki articles with vowels are using something different to make it work.--EhavEliyahu 13:01, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hebrew fix

message: Should this article not be at Jews of West Africa?  This is English Wikipedia, and as far as I'm aware, neither Bilad el-Sudan nor its colloquial variant Bilad es-Sudan are used in English to refer to West Africa, the western Maghreb nor anywhere else... I think WP:NC pretty clearly applies here.  Tomertalk 22:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello Tomer.  I think the problem with calling the article Jews of West Africa may give the impression that the communities that it is talking about still exist.  If the article were called Jews of West Africa I think it would seem to suggest that any Jewish group practicing Judaism such as the ones in Ghana and Nigeria are directly connected to these group that once existed in West Africa.  Because the article is dealing with a community that existed when the area was known as Bilad es-Sudan, and just as the term is not used anymore the communities that existed during that time no longer exist.  The title of the article is due to the information that exists about the Jews in the region prior to the 1800's being in the Bilad es-Sudan.  In the next few weeks I am going to add more information about the last community of Rabbi Mordachai Aby-Serour that may help clear up the matter.  What are your thoughts?--EhavEliyahu 17:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm.  Well, I guess in that case perhaps History of the Jews of Bilad el-Sudan?  Tomertalk 03:48, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me.--EhavEliyahu 04:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So, are you going to do it, or shall I?  :-)  Tomertalk 06:28, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you?  I can't remember how to change the name.--EhavEliyahu 20:33, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  [Obviously...] :-)  Tomertalk 08:41, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: I have removed the following; temporary or permanently we shall see:
The Kehath family converted with the rest of the non-Muslim population. The Cohens, descended from the Islamicized Moroccan Jewish trader El-Hadj Abd-al-Salam al Kuhin, arrived in the Timbuktu area in the 18th century, and the Abana family came in the first half of the 19th century. According to Prof. Michel Abitbol, at the Center for the Research of Moroccan Jewry in Israel, in the late 19th century Rabbi Mordoche Aby Serour traveled to Timbuktu several times as a not-too-successful trader in ostrich feathers and ivory. Ismael Diadie Haidara, a historian from Timbuktu, has found old Hebrew texts among the city's historical records. He has also researched his own past and discovered that he is descended from the Moroccan Jewish traders of the Abana family. As he interviewed elders in the villages of his relatives, he discovered that knowledge of the family's Jewish identity has been preserved, in secret, out of fear of persecution.The Renewal of Jewish Identity in Timbuktu, by Karen Primack, 
It really sounds a lot more suited to a genealogy website than an an encyclopedia. If the notability of the families mentioned can be established then it should go back in but as of now I don't see a basis for inclusion of the information. What do others think? Picaroon (Talk) 23:29, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the first sentence should be included, but I will need to go back to Ismael Haidara's book about those families to figure out how to include them.  It should probably go in the section about the Arabic records since the records talk about those families.  When I return to New York I will work that in.--EhavEliyahu 16:22, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Genealogical info removed

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message: Happy New year to all. In Reference to Ancient roots of African Jews, I would like to suggest an inclusion of the following article "Bambara (A PROTO-HEBREW LANGGUAGE?)" https://josepheidelberg.com/blog/ by Joseph Eidelberg.
Please review and comment. Thanks Beidelberg (talk)  — Preceding undated comment added 01:45, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
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