Talk:Mevlevi Order

message: I have no expertise on Sufi ritual, though I have watched the Sema without a central Sheikh. So I am reluctant to alter this page and ask that an expert clarify or make the changes.   
I am concerned about the sentence "The sema was practised ... with the dervished whirling in a circle around their sheikh, who is the only one circling around his axis." Surely the sheikh is rotating on his axis rather than circling (while rotating) which is what the dervishes are doing?  
If the central sheikh rotates on his main physical axis, this overall pattern of the Sema appears to reflect the Solar System with the Sheikh acting as the Sun and would be a symbolic celebration and path towards unification with the creator of the universe. Of course, the Copernican model of the Solar System [1534] was not known in the 13th century, in which case the Sheikh would represent the Earth in the Ptolemaic system. Robertcurrey (talk) 06:41, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The bit about the solar system is an interesting point. The source I found in my brief search (Mevlevi Order of America) also used the solar system analogy, but I read it as a description of what they do rather than why they do it. There's also no mention of the person in the middle though the picture clearly shows someone there. I might do some research on this topic, as it's always interested me. Recognizance (talk) 18:24, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Circling or rotating central sheikh? 

message: Having read about and performed with the Turkish Mevlevi at the annual sema in Konya and on a US tour, I'm surprised that the Persian word "Mawlawi" heads this section rather than the word "Mevlevi" used in Turkey to refer to the mystical order, the whirling ceremony, and the music. I suspect this is part of a trend in Turkey to associate spiritual matters with the greater Islamic world, but it seems to me confusing to non-Turkish reader of the English Wikipedia.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Neyzenhasan (talk • contribs) 16:57, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Mawlawi" vs "Mevlevi" 

message: Please...--E4024 (talk) 11:52, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: What's the deal with this? The article switches to 'Sema' for a quote and it's "Sama" everywhere else, including a link to the Sama page. Paradox (talk) 04:34, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sema, not Sama 

message: In the article, these are both stated that Mevlevi Order was foound in 1273, and Mevlevi Order was found in Ottoman Empire. Ottoman Empire was found in 1299 so how are these both correct ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.96.86.212 (talk) 10:22, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ottoman Empire ? 

message: The things written in this page give no other information but that of sema. Is this all mevlevi order and culture is about? Isn't there anything more to show people about an order that is 600 years old and that has deeply affected Turkish cultural and mystic life?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.227.144.10 (talk) 01:31, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  is mevlevi order all about sema? 

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