Talk:Punk fashion

message: about every skater I know listens to punk, and not one of us calls oursleves a "skate punK". in fact, I'd never heard of the term till this page. baggy jeans are soo 1991 either way. thin shoes? naah, spaceman boots are better. checkered shoes dont work because they rip after a day, hence noone skates them. but whatever, I dont care.
just my 2 cents.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.183.34 (talk) 11:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: skizzate punk

message: i've heard red laces are considered national front? - I've heard the opposite...that red laces are considered communist...
Removed the phrase "The most blistering punk music" from the Punks against punk fashion section in favor for "Hardcore Punk," which is actually the genre those bands fall into.
: I've heard that laces help keeping your shoes on your feet. // Liftarn (talk)
Cherry coloured Dr. Martens were popular among skinheads...31.220.203.190 (talk) 20:50, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Red laces

message: Stop changing the "pop punk" section, please - Chucks, ties with t-shirts and as belts, black-and-bright-colours hair dye and the others listed are all aspects of modern pop-punk fashion. If you have a problem with the section, post it here; otherwise I will seek semi-protection.
Also, I think images are certainly needed. I know images of Sid Vicious are hard to get (a pity since his exemplary expression of the "punk look" was the only reason he even got in the band), but I think Johnny Rotten would do well. Ramones for torn clothing and leather jackets and Siouxie for swastika and bondage gear would probably be good images too. Ian McKaye would do well for hardcore anti-fashion. There must be an image of someone in a spike-and-patches kutte, torn jeans, mohawk and Crass shirt somewhere we can use. Seriously. And a picture of a NOFX fan or something would do for skate punk. --Switch 14:27, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Stop changing stuff

message: Stop changing the article. Those shirts were sold at Sex to the early apolitical punk scene, and were meant merely to be offensive, much like the swastika shirts made famous by Sid Vicious that were also sold there. Regardless of Lydon's political beliefs, the shirt is a prime example of the deliberately offensive garments popular at the time. --Switch 07:46, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Johnny Rotten's shirt

message: Under Skate Punks, the section that says: "Skate punks also generally wear branded skate shoes—such as Fallen shoes, Circa, or eS footwear—and generally avoid the cheap brands—such as Airwalk or Vans—which are seen as poser brands and are not very effective for real skaters" seems POV to me.  It could at least have a source. --Zagsa 01:26, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poser?  Is that NPOV? 

message: Why is it every sentence in this paragraph starts with the word punk(s)?  Seems like it goes against basic writing
Punks seek to outrage propriety with the highly theatrical use of style. Punk clothing adapts existing objects for aesthetic effect: previously ripped clothes are held together by safety pins or wrapped with tape, written on with marker or defaced with paint; a black bin liner bag (garbage bag) might become a dress, shirt or skirt. Leather, rubber and vinyl clothing are also common, possibly due to its implied connection with transgressive sexual practices, such as bondage and S&M. Punks wear tight "drain pipe" jeans, "brothel creepers" shoes, t-shirts with risqué images, and possibly a leather motorcycle jacket (á la The Ramones). Punks style their hair to stand in spikes, cut it into "Mohawks" or other dramatic shapes, and color it with vibrant, unnatural hues. Punks use safety pins and razor blades as jewelry, including using safety pins for piercings. Punks sometimes flaunted taboo symbols such as the Nazi swastika or Iron Cross, although most modern punks are staunchly anti-racist and subsequently may wear a crossed-out swastika patch. They may also wear eyeliner (boys and girls). [citation needed] Punk style was influenced by clothes sold in Malcolm McLaren's shop SEX. McLaren has credited this style to his first impressions of Richard Hell while he was in New York managing the The New York Dolls.
Seems like some one took some bullet points, stuck them together and called it a paragraph.  Perhaps some one could reword it?
--66.222.240.194 21:06, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punks may wear....Punks may spike....Punks may... 

message: I accidentally marked this edit as minor because I forgot that I changed the section title to "traditional punk". So I did more than just copyedit. Sorry. I did that because it seems less confusing than "'straight' punk", which could be confused with straight (as in the sexual orientation) or straight edge. Ungovernable ForceThe Wiki Kitchen! 06:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whoops 

message: I have recently started a page on the current hardcore (heavy metal) scene. The hardcore fashion described here would be better suited to describing that scene. till somebody comes up with a paragraph to describe contemporary hardcore PUNK fashion i'll be removing the hc section as it has no bearing on punk fashion.
:Oh, I guess you did give a reason. Next time, be sure to direct people here in your edit summary. I don't think modern hardcore is really punk, but others do so for now at least, I think it should stay in. I don't care that much though. Ungovernable ForceGot something to say? 04:14, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hardcore fashion 

message: There's a huge amount of other languages' versions of this article, but none are listed here. May someone add them? (eg, by taking the links from the de.wikipedia). --Pfc432 00:22, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other languages versions 

message: I know it is considered to be an "obscure trend", but there should be a expanded section or at least new article about Suicidals. This is about all the information I could find and it doesn't even refer to them as being Suicidals: 
"Another example would be some punks in California, who have moddeled themselves on Cholo's. This look involves wearing brightly coloured bandanas and plaid flannel shirts. Shaven heads are also common in this style. A good example of this would be Californian punk band Suicidal Tendencies."
I know this pretty much covers it in describing their fashion choice, but there should be more information on the subculture. I know Suicidals as a violent crew (some have described it as a gang) that has a fierce devotion to bands like Suicidal Tendencies, Beowulf, Excel, and many other Venice, California bands. I have heard they have associations with various Surrenos gangs. I would edit it myself, but most of what I can provide would fall under "original research" as there aren't any widely available sources on the internet or in books. There was a paragraph in "American Hardcore", but that's about it. I know it may not be relevant to this article in particular, but I feel that the movement was and is still relevant enough to have some more information or an article on Wikipedia. Maybe this would fit better in the punk subculture article, but maybe not. There has to be something on this site about "punk gangs" like the Venice Suicidals, Beowulf Boys and Circle One. Can I get some thoughts?
ZAchAtTacK 4:57, 17 May 2007
 
I agree with all that you have said. It would be much appreciaated if you could help expand this part of the article. I think part of the reason it is hard to find info on this is precisly because it is an "Obscure Trend" - D-Raven
66.15.146.252 04:57, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Suicidals

message: in what is currently considered punk and emo fashion,a key element has been forgotten in this aritcle.tux,tux undershirts,and tie have been a critical part of both punk and emo since their inception.cant beleieve so many people missed it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.233.155.182 (talk) 00:28, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ...No, actually it hasn't been. I doubt you could find one photo of a punk wearing a tux. And this is an article about punks, if it's so important to emos, put it on that page.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.204.17.158 (talk) 17:51, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  tell me... 

message: those patches that are sewed into jackets or hung from the pants called i couldnt find them on this page  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.229.249.3 (talk) 01:43, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What Are... 

message: I no that girl Punk fashion is very similar to its male counterpart but I think that it needs its own little article in here.  All the Punk girls I know have a different style of dress then in each of these lovely fashion sections.  
Punk fashion always struck me as being individual and self-promoting.  Though I can understand what you guys are getting at with regionalism.
Female Punk, however; seems less regional; perhaps because the female body is so different from the males or perhaps because females feel as if they have less options in the Punk scene then males.  It strikes me as if a lot of the categories, both regional and subcultures would be unflattering on the female body and that probably has a large part in the way female Punks dress. (Though I admit perhaps what I have observed could be unique to my region)
(Before you guys accuse me I am not a Punk.  In the sad world of high school categories, I have been given the title of hippie.  I wonder perhaps if the Punks who read this are as hurt by being categorized as I was.)
(68.89.43.45 (talk) 16:53, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Girl Punk Fashion 

message: I was an art student in the UK in the early and mid eighties, and I can tell you from personal experience that punk was out of fashion in the UK then. The height of youth fashion then was rubber catsuits, believe it or not, although only worn by the most daring girls, and people were also wearing outfits like those of Boy George. While punk was out of fashion in the UK, a milder version had come into fashion at that time in the US. Ample cause for confusion here. The article says "as liberty spikes or the Mohawk hairstyle". I do not know what liberty spikes are - I would guess they are American terminology for what was simply known as "spikes" in the UK. And the Mohawk hairstyle was called a "Mohican" in the UK. 78.151.102.130 (talk) 23:19, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  UK v. US punk fashion 

message: this was recently edited for a commercial purposes. nikede.com is the site i belive. please watch. Not the same one (talk) 16:25, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: adverts

message: Why is emo - most probably today's most common punk style - not mentioned in this article? --87.179.150.211 (talk) 16:44, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emo fashion 

message: There's a trend in the hardcore scene to dress in a fashion similar to emo kids. This includes tight jeans, hair in the face, and eye makeup on guys. It's often referred to as "scene' or "fashioncore" (sometimes spelled fashionxcore). Someone needs to include this.--216.49.144.57 (talk) 20:19, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current Hardcore Fashion 

message: WHo put emo under punk its not punk this page is stuipted enough im going to delete it  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.32.231.211 (talk) 19:03, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emo 

message: Why was this deleted? Ska-punk was big in the US during the 90s  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.16.251.159 (talk) 22:03, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ska-punk 

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message: What would people think about including these?  Or even a section for the fashion of 2-Tone Ska (which was mentioned in the Ska-Punk section)? Theburning25 (talk) 20:04, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Romantic and Mod-Revival 

message: Can you semi-protect your page because some nerd is putting their trashy pictures going to a punk concert and wearing a costume on the 70s/origin section. They always put it there and I always delete it. JUST LETTING YOU KNOW!!! Picaxe01 (talk) 5:16, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: "Punk fashion has been extremely commercialized at various times, and many well-established fashion designers — such as Vivienne Westwood and Jean Paul Gaultier — have used punk elements in their production." <--- This is really inaccurate and completely illogical, Gaultier and Westwood are on completely different levels.
Westwood with McLaren put together the Sex Pistols image on the Kings Road in their shop, to the person that wrote this: do you know what Seditionaries was?
Essentially, Westwood was key to popularizing the Punk look of tartan, safety pins, loose knit jumpers and bondage trousers and PVC/rubber/fetish wear, commercializing punk?! She was one of the lead creators of what is now commonly seen as the punk image! Compare that to Gaultier!
- Von Betelgeuse
31.220.203.190 (talk) 20:34, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Westwood was the original creator of the UK punk image through dressing the Sex Pistols 

message: i stumbled in here on a google search and wasted a few minutes flipping through it to be sort of taken aback by how focused on men this article is. it's true that some of the subcultures have been pretty male dominated, and that a lot of the fashion was unisex, but that's not what i'm getting at. it's just written with the underlying assumption that we're talking only about men. for example, consider the hardcore section that talks about short hair. well, if you're a dude, sure. yet, there was actually a kind of a really important female-driven hardcore scene centered in the pacific northwest (that doesn't even get a listing). i'm going to reword the hardcore section, because it's the subgenre i'm most familiar with, but this really needs a systemic overhaul.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.48.181.93 (talk) 06:20, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  this article is incredibly androcentric 

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