Talk:Acrylic paint

message: I think the article should be split into a technical part, in which the polymer coating mechanisms are explained, and another article in which the artwork is explored. 194.53.253.51 (talk) 14:27, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  proposed split 

message: I've removed some links to commercial galleries or individual artists who appear to be purely promoting their own work or websites - Self promotion or vanity publishing is against Wiki guidlelines - Otherwise anyone could just add a link to this article because they happen to paint in acylic or sell acrylic paintings - 
Rrose Selavy
acrylic paint is removed by turpentine or mineral spirits.
:But not easily...
MWAK--84.27.81.59 14:45, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links removed 

message: The plural form of the word "medium" is "media" — not "mediums" — and I changed the entry accordingly. Also, I replaced a lot of parenthetical second-guessing with a "citation needed" tag. Buck 18:19, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Media'' 

message: Sorry, this is incorrect. The turps won't be removing the acrylic paint, ones own elbow grease will be doing that. You see, once an acrylic paint has cured (24hrs - 2 weeks), it undergoes a chemical change as the acrylic emulsion particles bind together. Using turps or mineral spirits won't unbind these particles. The friction of rubbing them is what may be doing this. Once cured, acrylic paints are cured irriversibly(sp). Most manufacturers actually sell turps based varnishes.
This not quite 100% true, about being cured irreversibly. I have some plastic cement which uncures acrylic paint, even after 6 months. ~The Little Green Man from Mars(My Page)(Where do I live?) 21:01, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Removal by Turps'' 

message: "There are techniques which are available only to acrylic painters, as well as restrictions unique to acrylic painting"
It would be nice to have a reference or elaborate more on this sentence. Not knowing much about acrylic paints (which is why I was reading the article) I have no clue what you are referring to.
It would make more sense to write specific pages about the techniques and cross-link to the Acrylic Paint article Rawbear 22:57, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  acrylic techniques and restrictions 

message: The following two statements seem to contradict eachother.
"one of the disadvantages of this medium is that paintings can crack and be corrupted much sooner than with oil."
"Although the permanency of acrylics is sometimes debated by conservators, they appear more stable than oil paints. Whereas oil paints normally turn yellow as they age/dry(oxidize), acrylic paints, at least in the 50 years since invention, do not yellow, crack, or change."
I'd guess the second is more accurate.
I've never heard the first statement from knowlegable sources, nor scene evidence of it!  Sounds very biased and unsupported, is someone talking about cheap beginner grade paint slapped on with lots of water?
There are a lot of ways to make acrylic painting 'unstable' and cause it to crack or fall off. For instance, trying to paint over any kind of oily base will not work. Nor on most metals that haven't been primed for it and protected after. Any kind of paint has its preferred methods and MEDIUMS for best results. And there are a few colors that do seem to yellow with time - according to my own work. But generally, a decent acrylic will last a very long time and doesn't seem affected by sunlight or humidity like other paints. - 20+ years painting experience  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.226.177.16 (talk) 16:34, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction

message: Formatted the article but the Techniques section needs more work doing to it.--Artypants 10:50, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Techniques Section 

message: Does Answers.com usually plagiarize Wikipedia?
http://www.answers.com/topic/acrylic-paint-1
It's not plagiarism. but laziness, possibly ,  Yes, it usually  uses Wiki's entries along with other web dictionary resources and credits the source. 
http://www.answers.com/topic/plagiarism?cat=biz-fin
Rrose Selavy
Does wikipedia plagiarize everyone, and everything?  Of course it does!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.235.73.194 (talk) 22:12, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagiarism 

message: I added a photograph of acrylic for better illustration. Hariadhi 07:38, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a nice image, but it seems like it could use a caption. Particularly since it's in the "Differences between acrylic and oil paint" section. Is one of those paint smears oil and one acrylic? Trilink 19:47, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can anyone take a photo of acrylic paint being made? Erudecorp ? * 21:33, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Image

message: Am I the only one whose main experience with paint is for walls (both interior and exterior)?  This article has a lot of good information on art, but what about paint as used on houses?  Derekt75 (talk) 00:40, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A discussion of acrylic paint on houses (walls, i presume) would largely talk about mural work or decorative arts. You're not going to paint a whole wall with acrylic paint. I'm a house painter as well as artist, so I've done both. Wall paint is latex (usually), a different subject entirely. We could start another topic here on mural or decorative painting, as the surfaces are much different to deal with than canvas/objects d'arte.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.226.177.16 (talk) 16:38, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm confused by the fact that 'Latex Paint' diverts to this 'Acrylic Paint' article; but the contributor above says that latex [paint] is  a different subject entirely. The term latex wall paint seems to be commonly used in the US, but I'm trying to find out if what we call 'Masonry Paint' in the UK is the same thing? Can anyone help out here? Andywebby (talk) 23:29, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Latex house paint is based on acrylic polymer emulsions, so the redirect is logical, but I agree this article needs expansion with regard to house paints... as well as the technical chemistry of acrylic (or acrylate) polymers and the substitution binders and fillers we commonly find in commercial house paints. If one investigates the history of acrylic paint, we find that Rohm was but one of the main contributors to the development of acrylic paints and it wasn't as simple as "invent[ing] acrylic resin, which quickly transformed into acrylic paint". Rohm and Haas were the first to commercially sell acrylic paint in something like 1953, and their motivating factor was to provide an alternative house paint during the post war housing boom. I must also point out that the first reference in this wiki-article is not a reliable source and it will be deleted. The related content should be rewritten or it too will be removed. Luminaux (talk) 22:36, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  House paint 

message: Just a quick question. Do you  have to varnish an acrylic painting? If so, why?
Thanks  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.12.42.112 (talk) 09:24, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not really necessary. However, I know of two rational reasons to varnish.  In some cases the surface of the painting can show differences in gloss; if this is undesired to obtain a uniform reflection you'll have to varnish. The other reason is that though dirt can easily be removed from the acrylic paint layer using water as a solvent, the water may degrade the carrier, e.g. canvas or paper. Organic solvents pose less of a threat in this respect — but they'll temporarily soften the acrylic, making it slightly susceptible to abrasion during the cleaning process. Nothing much to worry about but precious museum pieces had better be varnished, if this can be reconciled with the authenticity of the artwork.--MWAK (talk) 16:33, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  acrylic paint and varnish 

message: ColArt is a leading supplier of art materials, and has several brands which include lines of acrylic paints. The Winsor & Newton brand includes the Galeria and Artists' Acrylic lines, Liquitex consists of the Liquitex Professional Colors and Liquitex BASICS lines, Lefranc & Bourgeois includes the Flashe, FINE Acrylic, and Louvre lines, and Reeves includes a line of acrylic sets and loose colors.
Royal Talens of the Netherlands (owned by Sakura Color Products Corporation) manufactures the Rembrandt, Van Gogh, Amsterdam (Standard and Expert), and ArtCreation (Expression and Essentials) lines of acrylic paints and mediums.
Daler-Rowney (Cryla and System 3) is an English manufacturer of acrylic paint, so as Spectrum, that offer a range of acrylics for professionals and an economy line for students. A Spanish manufacturer is Acrylicos Vallejo which offers an extensive line of paints of different textures and color.
In India Camlin Ltd. makes 60 excellent shades of artist acrylic colors in addition to student grade colors and all kinds of acrylic mediums. This is a company which makes more than 2000 separate art and hobby range of products.
In the United States, manufacturers of artist acrylic paints include Golden Artist Colors, based in New Berlin, New York, Liquitex, Nova Color Artists Acrylic Paint and Daniel Smith Artists' Materials. These offer a full range of professional paints and media. M. Graham, based in Oregon, also produces a limited range of professional-quality acrylics. In 2012, Ronald Wheeler a former US producer of Politec Acrylic Artists Colors, will re-establish the distribution of these first (1953) acrylic emulsion paints with the imported product line and then later establishing again US production.
Grumbacher Academy Acrylics, also manufactured in the United States Leeds, Massachusetts, offer a 24 color collegiate grade line with matching media.
D. L. Stevenson & Son Ltd., manufacturers of professional artist quality acrylics, are located in Toronto, Canada. Stevenson Acrylics consists of a line of 64 colors as well as a variety of media.
Chroma is the Australian manufacturer of the Atelier Interactive Artists' Acrylics line of paint.  Chroma also has facilities in North America.  Other acrylics made by Chroma include A>2 Lightfast Heavy Body Artist Acrylics and Chroma's Jo Sonja Artists' Colours.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Painter2014 (talk • contribs) 13:01, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some popular manufacturers of artist acrylics 

message: The article has practically on the technical (chemistry and physics) of acrylic paints.  Even the work "acrylic" is linked to the Wikitionary instead of the proper chemistry/plastics article. --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 04:24, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technical aspects need filling in 

message: The unexplained dumping of a colour chart in the middle of the article is (i) unnecessary (other articles about artists mediums neither include nor need such a chart - yes, paints do come in colours!), (ii) a blatant, if slightly subtle advert for one particular brand of paint, as a Google search on the product codes quickly identifies - the specific codes have nothing to do with acrylic paints per se.
Suggest removing the chart.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.86.109 (talk) 20:01, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Everything on wikipedia is an advert. lol 79.106.203.50 (talk) 09:50, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colour chart is an advert 

message: In the paragraph titled "Painters and acrylic" a reference is given to support the statement, "[acrylics] use on engineered woods such as Medium-density fibreboard can be problematic because of the porous nature of those surfaces[6]." The "Sealing, Staining, and Filling" reference gives no information on "engineered woods" and in fact, the only mention of acrylics in the article makes the claim that acrylics are self sealing. It seems to me that if a fiberboard were completely painted (both sides and all edges) the acrylic paint would act as a sealant and minimize the expansion/contraction issues of wood fibers. (To investigate this, perhaps someone in this community focused on the sharing and accumulation of accurate knowledge for all could provide chemical compositions of some common "primers" or "sealers" and some common "paints". As I understand it, many commercial "primers" are heavy in acrylic binders, especially when compared to seemingly acrylic-poor commercial paints, but if this is true the artist acrylic-heavy paints shouldn't need primer... some insight please...) Furthermore, this ref is about stains, not paint, and I believe that it, as well as the above quoted statement, should be removed unless proper reference can be shown.
Luminaux (talk) 22:02, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Sealing, Staining, and Filling" reference doesn't illustrate point. 

message: Would be useful to have a section on the toxicity of acrylic paint or lack there of, and to compare it with the toxicity of oil based paints. I presume that the water binder makes exposure to acrylic non-toxic, while I know that some of the oil binders have mildly toxic effects (e.g. glycol ethers).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.235.217.217 (talk) 01:29, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toxicity 

message: This article is exhibiting a bias that treats the subject solely from a canvas/feature artists point of view. Unlike oil paint, which treats the subject also from an industrial and home applications point of view (paint as a protectant for a surface, or interior design feature) . 70.49.127.65 (talk) 00:14, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is about acrylic paint's use in the fine arts. WP:IDON'TLIKEIT is no reason for this claim of bias. See House painter and decorator for it's industrial use...Modernist (talk) 13:24, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That is what is called bias. The title "acrylic paint" is a general title and should cover all acrylic paints and its uses, not a restricted topic such as acrylic paints in artwork. If you don't want to cover the entire topic, then the title should be changed to a more restricted one, such as acrylic paint in fine arts. 70.49.127.65 (talk) 21:45, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed. I came here looking for information about acrylic finishes used in decorating and found and article on acrylic paint that is incomplete as it deals only with acrylic artists' paints. Either it should have scope appropriate to its title or a title appropriate to its scope. Painter and decorator is a person's trade, not a type of paint. Globbet (talk) 21:40, 25 October 2012 (UTC)

text:  There really needs to either be an extension to cover all types of acrylic paints or a separation into pages about Artists acrylics and other types (Hobby, automotive etc) - even the second sentence on the page "Acrylic paints are water-soluble" is incorrect talking about acrylic paints as a whole - acrylic lacquers are not soluble in water for example. It would be more accurate to say 'Artists acrylic paints are soluble in water'Davef68 (talk) 10:46, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  biased 

message: Hi, the previous "artist grading" included 
"Highly pigmented with a focus on single pigment colors for the cleanest mixing results, they tend to have viscosity similar to oil paints and can thus hold a brush stroke for impasto applications. Acrylics can be applied to canvas, boards, paper, panels, wood, and a number of other prepared surfaces." 
Viscosity and impasto applications have nothing to do with professional quality, rather they are related to types of acrylic viscosity.
Also, I don't think "scholastic acrylics should be listed on the "grading" section; scholastic falls under "student grade" acrylics.
--Artschool-reject (talk) 14:31, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree and just removed it. I added a book reference that states there are only 2 grades. Feel free to add scholastic back into a proper section with reference if ever available. --CNMall41 (talk) 17:53, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grading 

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message: I would have thought the opposite is true. Any sources/examples for this?--93.214.240.122 (talk) 22:04, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no source that explicitly states that there are more of one than another, but in my experience it is true. If you compare the number of pigments available in Schmincke's Mussini series (oil) to their PRIMAcryl for example, then you'll see that there are more oil colours (101) than there are acrylics (84). That's probably WP:OR though.Mduvekot (talk) 22:50, 29 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: So that would be a statement about commercial availability. Both of the Schmincke color sets contain many mixtures of pigments, so it is hard to compare them. Here is a list from the company Kremer about the suitability of their pigments for different media: Kremer. And here a similar one from Sennelier. Examples: Kremer lists green earths as unsuited for Acrylics, Sonnelier doesn't. Sonnelier lists Cobalt pigments as unsuited, Kremer doesn't. --93.214.242.162 (talk) 22:38, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: You raise good points. I'm not sure whey Sennelier lists cobalt pigments as unsuited, cobalt pigments are chemically inert, but can flocculate in water, perhaps that's why. Why Kremer would say that their green earths are unsuitable for use in acrylic mediums, I have no idea. Its clay content causes it to absorb significant amounts of oil , but I can't see why that would be a problem. All I have to offer is unsourced speculation at this point. Sorry.Mduvekot (talk) 16:02, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Hard to make a statement like that for ALL brands. GOLDEN says they make 101 different colors, 30 mixed pigment, so that EQUALS 71 single-pigment colors(http://www.goldenpaints.com/technicalinfo_hevbod). WINSOR & NEWTON OILS says they have "80 single pigment colours" (http://www.winsornewton.com/na/shop/oil-colour/artists-oil-colour). Therefore, the statement holds, but only slightly. Bod (talk) 21:41, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not all the pigments of oil paints are available in acrylics. 

message: : I've not followed this closely enough to know which contributor added this sentence:
"Gesso alone will not stop SID; a sizing must be applied before using a gesso."
But there is something fundamentally wrong with adding such a fine sentence about the limitations of a gesso... without any reference to what a gesso is in the first place. If someone needs to read a Wiki article about Acrylic paints they probably won't know what a gesso is and a word search shows it mentioned one other time, in a list of mediums, which is fine for all readers to try and extrapolate new knowledge from inference and context, but while that's how intuitive human learning works, that's not the way an Encyclopedia works. If it's specialized vocabulary, especially in the course of explaining a larger subject, it needs to be defined or referenced. APDEF (talk) 14:55, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, never mind, I now see that the first mention of Gesso links to a page that tells us all about it. All is well. APDEF (talk) 15:02, 19 November 2019 (UTC)

text: n 59.103.109.136 (talk) 04:49, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Your Gesso is as good as mine... 

message: In the "Differences between acrylic and oil paint" section, the statement that "Oil provides a refractive index that is less clear than acrylic dispersions" is nonsensical.  The refractive index is a dimensionless number that gives the indication of the light bending ability of that medium. Calling one index "less clear" than another is at best quite a stretch.
So how do the refractive indexes of oil- vs. acrylic-based paints compare? If one is significantly higher than the other, surface reflectivity and internal reflections will both increase (that is what gives diamonds their "sparkle"). The statement should be reworded in terms of higher/lower, not "less clear".  BMJ-pdx (talk) 05:19, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Refractive index that is less clear ..." is nonsensical. 

message: Rabindranath tagore  what kind of painting they are famous for 110.235.232.214 (talk) 16:10, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artistic India 

message: This section is bad, starting with the assertion that acrylics are opaque and watercolors are translucent. Both can be anywhere in the range from transparent to opaque -- according to the very web page cited! (But that cited web page is also a poor reference, containing misleading and contradictory info.) The discussion around making lighter and darker colors for each medium is also oversimplified and misleading. Worse is that the biggest effective difference between the two isn't mentioned: acrylics are permanent once dry while watercolors are not. SmanthaGraves (talk) 17:10, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: n 59.103.109.136 (talk) 04:49, 13 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Difference between acrylic and watercolor paint