Talk:Guild Wars Nightfall

message: Jeff Strain did no such thing.. 195.137.4.228 07:32, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  The phrase The following is confirmed, factual information confirmed by ArenaNet's Jeff Strain at E3 2006 is bogus.  There were some guesses made by people who were allowed to preview the third campaign at E3 and Jeff neither confirmed nor denied them, just said the guesses were along the right lines or in the general area or something to that effect.  It's reasonable to assume that the information is close, but it's misleading to claim that it's confirmed and factual.  The entire article is nothing but speculative, using best guess information.  Nothing wrong with that, as long as it's portrayed as what it trully contains. --24.19.168.170 13:57, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confirmed info 

message: July 18, 2006 (BELLEVUE, WA) — ArenaNet®, developer of the world's leading subscription-free online roleplaying games Guild Wars® and Guild Wars FactionsTM, and NCsoft® Corporation, the world's leading developer and publisher of online computer games, announce today the title of the next game in the award-winning franchise, Guild Wars NightfallTM. Further, Guild Wars Nightfall has entered the beta testing stage and Guild Wars players worldwide are invited to participate in an exclusive, first-look player-versus-player (PVP) event, July 28 — 30, 2006.
During the PVP Preview Event, both Guild Wars and Guild Wars Factions® players will get a first look at Guild Wars Nightfall, and will be able to try out the two new professions being introduced in the game; the Dervish, a scythe-wielding holy warrior, and the Paragon, guardian angel of the Elonian people. In addition to testing out the new professions and arenas, players will also be able to compete for items that will be exchangeable for a variety of rewards throughout the weekend event.
The Guild Wars Nightfall PVP Preview event will kick off on Friday, July 28 at 12:01am PDT and will continue through Sunday, July 30 at 11:59pm PST.
Guild Wars, an instant bestseller worldwide upon its release in April 2005, and Guild Wars Factions, the number one game in both North America and Europe earlier this year, are global online roleplaying games. Guild Wars Nightfall will continue the tradition of inviting players to immerse themselves in an epic storyline centered in a vibrant fantasy setting, build personalized characters, compete in head-to-head battles with players from around the world, and find adventure in missions and quests, in a Guild Wars game unlike any players have seen before. --Lugiatm (talk • contribs) 15:56, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Press Release - July 18, 2006 

message: Can someone change that link to 1up in the beginning to the actual site where the picture is and not just the hom page? Please and Thank you.--NecroMancer 03:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  1up.com 

message: Unless one of us here happens to own rights to the gamespot article you need to reword the articke into your own words before posting updated class info. the info below is from wikipedias copyright info. 
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thread_title: Gamespot Article

message: "and the Paragon, guardian angel of the Elonian people. In addition to testing out the new professions and arenas, players will also be able to compete for items that will be exchangeable for a variety of rewards throughout the weekend event."
That is as much a confirmation than ever, so why is it still "specualted" for Nightfall to take place on the continent of Elona? Asososocrates
:While the evidence is very compelling for the setting to be Elona, ArenaNet have not specifically announced that the new setting will be Elona.  Until they say "the new campaign is set in Elona" noone can say for sure that it will definitely be Elona so the article should stay the way it is. --Aspectacle 23:58, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's now implied instead of speculated; still not confirmed though.  We also don't know if Elona (or Elonia) is the name of a country, continent, nomadic tribe, or a city.  We know that Elonians appear to be involved, but it's not clear what place names exist as yet. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 00:01, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Then you are most welcome to update the article to reflect this new information. ;) --Aspectacle 02:42, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elona 

message: If anyone can find out if the characters specific to Factions (Assassin and Ritualist) are available in Nightfall, it would be helpfull. I have not succeeded in finding out myself, but i will post it if I do.
:The preview event allowed the combinations so i would assume at least that late game using a profession changer they would be allowed. Sort of like with Tyrian characters becoming Assassin or Ritualist secondary.
::There hasn't been an official announcement on the fate of the Factions professions for Nightfall.  I think that you will be able to take Factions profession characters through to Elona, however, it isn't clear whether more skills will be made available for these classes in future chapters. --Aspectacle 22:10, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Available Professions 

message: I have made a few leaps of faith here while re-adding the now-confirmed information on the storyline and trivia sections (hate to say I told you so btw), saying that Dhuum is the "bad guy" in Nightfall and the like. However, I believe that there has been enough in-game evidence found by the GW Online Lore forum to give the information at least a second thought. All the information is too in-depth and complicated to go into here, but I beseech you: Instead of removing just about everything involving Dhuum, throw in conflicting theories about the "outcast god" being someone else, perhaps Menzies or some other god. However, the evidence supporting Dhuum is too great to be ignored, so I ask you not to remove it. At least, not until we get further confirmation of the storyline. --Lugiatm (talk • contribs) 18:13, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Lugiatm, my problem is that I've seen people quote this page as if it were gospel.  By saying that it is Dhumm (which may very well be right, but that isn't the point) people will read this page as if it's saying something which ArenaNet has announced.  The first trivia point really makes no sense and seems to have no relivance to Nightfall at all, so I am going to remove it.  The trivia on elona may be alright but that sort of detail isn't on the other pages.  However I'll leave it there in the meantime because it doesn't hurt.  I'll do this later when I have a bit more time. :)  --Aspectacle 21:29, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that Dhuum is the most likely god to be involved.  But, the mention of him here, with nothing mentioned in press releases or interviews, is just begging for the re-insertion of weasel or NPOV tags again.  Actually, the same goes for the "I told you so"s - I don't recall that information being disputed, only that inclusion of rumor and speculation on a site that is focussed on facts was not appropriate.  --161.88.255.139 16:44, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Storyline/Trivia Speculation with the [http://www.guildwars.com/press/releases/pressrelease-2006-08-01.php 1/8/06 press release] 

message: thumb|See any similarities?New screenshots by GameStar.de... tentacles seem to be a recurring theme in Nightfall, especially oily black, metallic ones. So, both are Nightfall screenshots, right? Wrong. The second image is a picture of the Tombs of the Primeval Kings, where Dhuum's army took over a while ago. Unless there are two gods who are both extremely fond of these tentacles, then Dhuum is definitely the one. The screenies released today, here and here were released for the purpose of putting 2 and 2 together. It would appear that, once again, I am right. So, who's going to update the article to relfect this? --Lugiatm (talk • contribs) 19:41, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I had to laugh that tenticles are indisputable evidence for Dhuum. :D  Unfortunately, as i said above, I'm waiting for the official announcement or most likely the release of the game to reveal who the outcast god really is.  --Aspectacle 00:08, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a better explanation for the tentacles? If so, I'd like to hear it, or at least know why these similarities can't be seen as evidence. --Lugiatm (talk • contribs) 07:40, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't take my comment as a personal attack.  I just found it somewhat amusing on a dull morning.  :)  Sure, the tentacles could very well be further evidence that Dhuum is the outcast god.  I don't disagree that out of the possibilities which we already know of Dhuum is the most compelling one to be that god and the evidence stacks up in his favour.  I just don't think that an outright statement on this page supporting this theory is appropriate. --Aspectacle 08:37, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Comments made in the preview event reference Abaddon.  Of course, you could argue that it's just another name under which Dhuum acts - sort of a way to hide his actions - or it could trully be a previously undocumented god.  Either way, the "indisputable evidence" is clearly in question. --161.88.255.139 00:11, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New, indisputible evidence of Dhuum being outcast god 

message: Here. It's all very interesting, but the most interesting one is the Realm of Torment Mesmer. "Realm of Torment" may indicate the Underworld, which was Dhuum's former domain before Grenth usurped him (outcast god, remember?), but the most interesting bit is the way it looks - it resembles a Grasp of Insanity, one of Dhuum's minions, closely. --Lugiatm (talk • contribs) 07:40, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More evidence of Dhuum :o 

message: What is the profession of the female on the box that is on the page right now? (might wanna put that under it, if we know for sure)  Disinclination 02:37, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a dervish.  I don't particularly want to put a note in the official info box 'cause it'll probably mess it up.  There are screenshots all over the place at the moment, but I'm not sure about what rights I have to use them here.  So I'll wait until the preview weekend (not this weekend, the next) and take some screenshots for this page to illustrate the appearance of the new professions. --Aspectacle 03:43, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, okay. Thanks. :) (I can't wait for the Preview weekend lol) Disinclination 04:44, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:   Proffession of the featured box? 

message: Well, can someone tell me which source is used for the system requirements? I've found no evidence that thase are the system requirements...
I've discovered the system requirements stated here are not correct, gamespot clearly says that the system requirements are the same as the other two Guild Wars games, so I've changed the system requirements.
I do must say I do not know about the exact amount of HDD space needed, so change it if you know the true amount of HDD space needed... [Un-signed]
Well the box that I picked up yesterday if I'm not mistaken states 512mb ram minium. Not just 256mb Onenottoforget 19:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a conflict in the requirements which were initially reported by arenanet on their website and what is actually printed on the boxes.  I'm watching threads about this topic in the fan forums to see whether there is official word on which is more accurate.  I'd say that what is on the box is likely *more* correct - but I'd like to leave it as is for the meantime. --Aspectacle 22:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  System requirements source? 

message: Speculation doesn't belong in a Wikipedia article.--Per Abrahamsen 05:14, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you.  The speculation section originated from the time when there was no confirmed information about the new game at all.  Now that there are a lot of details confirmed about the game it isn't as interesting as it once was.  I think that the only one which has any sourcable foundation is the one suggested in PCGamer, and a lot of things appear in the section and I have no way of really telling who's thinking it and how widely believed it is.  I'm ok with leaving the section there until the game is released in a few weeks where it'll get replaced with other real information but if you which to preempt that and remove it - I'm not going to make a fuss. --Aspectacle 00:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speculation 

message: Someone said there was a Nightfall PvP Edition. as of right now, there isn't.Thusly I deleted the reference.
: Big nitpick for something which is going to be available tomorrow along with the other editions.  Technically the other editions aren't available either because they're not available for purchase until tomorrow - you didn't delete those too?  ;)  I believe the entry is still valid but to avoid conflict I'll simply re-add it tomorrow. --Aspectacle 03:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hey I purchased/received my pre-ordered copy of the CE yesterday :P, although technically the game doesn't get officially released until tomorrow (when they actually UNLOCK the game for play :)). --Rambutaan 06:07, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Here is an announcement by Gaile Gray, Customer Rep from ArenaNet, about the PvP edition for Nightfall being available right on the opening of the game servers for Nightfall.  Here is a thread where someone says they've purchased it.  Please check your facts before you update the page. --Aspectacle 22:07, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PvP Edition 

message: * "New PvE only skills have been introduced available by gaining ranks in titles." I was just wondering, what does this sentence allude to? I'm assuming it means that you can unlock skills for your Heroes in PvE by gaining promotions in Sunspear rank, but the way it's written at the moment, I read it as there are skills exclusive to PvE and not available in PvP (regardless of how they get unlocked). I just wanted to clarify if that's true or not? --Rambutaan 05:04, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I meant the sunspear res sig and lightbringer skills, which I understand you cannot use in PvP (although I've never personally tested them) which you get as you get ranks in the Sunspear and Lightbringer titles.     They also get better with ranks in those titles.  I hadn't really considered including information about the hero skill points which you get with rank in titles and can use for unlocks.  :) --Aspectacle 05:44, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  * Ah I see, well in that case (since I've only just started to get to the point in the game where this Lightbringer concept is introduced) I just wasn't aware of these PvE specific skills :) (I do have the Sunspear Rebirth signet though - totally forgot about that!). --Rambutaan 05:51, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PvE Gameplay 

message: See . This review is non-technical but praises the game for its thematic elements. Are there other reviews of the sort, applauding or condemning the way Nightfall portrays African cultures? If so, it might be nice to put these viewpoints together in the article somewhere. It certainly struck me as something at least vaguely noteworthy about reactions to the game. 130.58.235.187 02:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've read nothing negative about the African theme.  There have been a few comments about the art style being new and interesting compared to what is typical of games of this type.  What you've linked is more of an interview mixed with an overview of the use of non-white main characters in video games.  It's a great article (Thanks for the link!), I just don't know how to work it, and its themes, in.  Perhaps some information about the art direction and choices in the development section would be the best place for it?  --Aspectacle 03:22, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is there a larger trend of reviews of this type? 

message: Could I suggest we either get an anti-vandalism lock or ban IP: 74.69.203.236 and 69.37.24.78 ? I'm getting sick of undoing edits on this article thanks to vandalism! I'm reverting back to the 10th May because even though some of the reverts were good intentioned, we've actually lost a few paragraphs of information thanks to the vandal(s). If anyone has added anything constructive in the past week, please re-add your info - but as far as I can tell, nothing else was added! --Rambutaan 00:26, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anti-vandalism Lock 

message: Do you think it would be possible to renew both of the class images, as they are pretty poor quality compared to the quality i'm used to. They really don't do Guild Wars' beautiful graphics any justice. I would do it myself but i would probably end up doing something wrong. Thanks for any help.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.106.88.106 (talk) 16:50, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Class Images 

message: I made a small change to the section on "heroes". It said that in previous campaigns, NPC Henchmen or "bots" could be used, blah blah blah. I removed "bots", as this is very rarely used in game to refer to henchman, and is much more commonly used to refer to illicit programs used to do things like gold farming, etc., which are unrelated to the henchmen. 69.249.227.39 (talk) 06:33, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: We can be Heroes

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