Talk:Bill Hybels

message: I take issue with this statement: "There are no known controversies surrounding Hybels personally, as is often the case with well-known religious figures.". This statement is an opinion and gives readers the assumption that most well known Christians are controversial. (J. D. Hunt 04:27, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
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message: The problems with this article being very wikipedia: POV start right at the beginning (POV Noted in bold):
:Bill Hybels is the founding and Senior Pastor of Willow Creek Community Church in South Barrington, Illinois. Willow Creek's innovative ministries have made it one of the most attended churches in North America. He is also an author of several Christian books, especially on the subject of Christian leadership. His charismatic personality, coupled with his sincere style,  has made Hybels one of the most popular faces of the modern evangelical movement.
There is simply no way to qualify these statements (in bold).  For example, regarding the attendence, who audits the attendence numbers, etc.? This reads like PR/Fan fiction. Stu 15:44, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. About 85% of the article is critical. That is hardly NPOV. I added the POV tag. Also, a photo or two would really brighten up the page. --Colin MacLaurin 03:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
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message: These are all critical, very POV. Please choose the most relevant 2 or 3, and also make sure that it is balanced by at least as many positive and neutral links:
*The Gospel According to Hybels & Warren by Nathan Busenitz
*Bill Hybels and the Willow Creek/Seeker Sensitive/Church Growth movement.
*Hybels: "I Couldn't Be More Pleased"
*Church Growth Gone Mad A sobering look at the church growth seeker-sensitive models by Clay Miller 
*Schuller Planted, Hybels Watered, Warren (Peter Drucker) Gives The Increase By Orrel Steinkamp, The Plumbline, Volume 10, No. 3, November/December 2005
*Protestant No More: Willow Creek Infiltrated by a Mystic Quaker Movement Called Renovare by Mary Fairchild, March 2003 
*Willow Creek Church & Bill Hybels' Theology - Biblical Christianity Or Church Of Laodecia? by James Sundquist, Rock Salt Publishing
*Sounding Out the Idols of Church Growth by Os Guinness
*The Feminist Seduction of the Evangelical Church by Susan Olasky
*Highly Questionable Methods by Robert Reymond
*Evangelicalism Divided by Iain H. Murray
Colin MacLaurin 14:20, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
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message: Is there any source of biographical information that can be added to this article? I know that he is from Kalamazoo and went to Kalamazoo Christian High School and was born around 1950, but that's about it.69.208.175.130 18:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
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message: The criticism section has been removed and added here until it can come up with sources that meet WP:V standards for Biographies of Living Persons ref. WP:BLP
One of the most well-known criticisms of Bill Hybels was his invitation of then President (and personal friend) Bill Clinton to his Leadership Summit in 2000. In front of leaders from all over the country, Hybels questioned the President about a variety of topics. In light of his recent sexual affair and lies under oath, many evangelicals highly disapproved of Clinton's appearance at the church and Hybels was heavily criticized. Hybels' rumored liberal political views have also put him at odds with fellow evangelicals, the vast majority of which are politically conservative.  
Hybels is also a firm egalitarian or "evangelical feminist," which has brought him into further criticism from many. In particular his statement (which can be seen on the Willow Creek website) that Willow Creek believes that women can be in leadership roles over men.  This is also seen in the use of the controversial "Today's New International Version" Bible as the Bible available to congregants during services.
I also removed a WP:Coatrack linkage to criticism of Rick Warren.  This is not Warren't biography.--Lyonscc (talk) 20:11, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The NY Times published an article in January 2000 regarding the Clinton's appearance at the church, which also mentioned the criticism of the appearance. I think that paragraph can be re-written to be NPOV along with this cite.  Best regards. Jogurney (talk) 17:01, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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message: Copied, pasted, and slightly modified from what I said at Talk:Erwin McManus, since it also applies here:
The lead mentioned the The Church Report's list of "50 Most Influential Churches". It isn't a reliable source at all. This came up at Joel Osteen, and we eventually dug up this article from Christianity Today which raises serious questions about if the list is part of some sort of fraud. There's no reason to think anyone listed had anything to do with that, but regardless, it's completely unusable as a source. The magazine's domain has since been replaced with an unrelated blog. The Church Report article is also unrelated. Grayfell (talk) 03:16, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
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