Talk:Buddha's delight

message: Some Cantonese folks told me that Chinese celery is used in Buddha's delight.  Is that correct?  How about bean sprouts?  Badagnani 17:08, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Celery?

message: How about cloud ears and red jujubes?  Badagnani 17:09, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think in general people just put what vegetarian ingredients are around into Buddah's delight. If you buy the canned versions though, it usually contains, carrots, bamboo shoots, black ear fungus, fried gluten, rolled yuba, and mushrooms. Sjschen 04:23, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other ingredients?

message: Can rice vermicelli be substituted for the cellophane noodles?  Most recipes I have found say that cellophane noodles (fen si) should be used, but one or two recipes state that rice vermicelli could be substituted.  Badagnani 17:44, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rice vermicelli

message: Wow, a lot of questions about ingredients. Here's what I have seen in my experience:
* Yes - cloud ear fungus, jujubes, lotus root, bok choy, fried tofu, tofu skin, nappa cabbage, wheat gluten, black mushrooms, fat choy, ginkgo nuts, cellophane noodles, lily buds, dried oysters (breaks the vegetarian motif), water chestnuts, bamboo shoots, lotus seeds, bamboo piths. 
* No - Chinese celery, bean sprouts, other types of mushrooms, carrots, snow peas, definitely NOT shrimp nor eggs (the dish is meant to be vegetarian). 
* Don't Know - rice vermicelli vs. mung-bean cellophane noodles, arrowhead  
It's probably true that every cook has their own recipe, I'm just listing what I have seen in restaurants and in people's homes. Dyl 05:59, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other ingredients 

message: Can this be explained?  三菇六耳  This phrase appears in this Chinese article.  Badagnani 17:35, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three mushrooms, six ears 

message: Can someone help translate what it says here in Chinese about the relative auspiciousness of having 10, 18, or 35 ingredients?  Badagnani 17:55, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 10 / 18 / 35 ingredients

message: Please discuss recent changes here before implementing. We've already done extensive searching on Chinese-language websites about this (as well as English-language usage and spellings) and some of the information just deleted is correct and factual. Badagnani 02:26, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing was deleted.  It got moved into the template?  Zaai is the pinyin, jai is the yale.  Even in  the wiktionary page for the character [], it tells you the exact same thing.  Jaai is yale.  Benjwong 02:33, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also do you need to revert all the changes at once?  That seems quite excessive.  Benjwong 02:34, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 羅漢菜 luohan coi is really not correct.  齋菜 is correct, but that's already in the buddhist cuisine page and accurately describe it. Benjwong 02:37, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

text: With all due respect.  I am not saying you didn't work hard.  Believe me, I know you did.  But the overwhelming number of software and websites showing the pinyin tells me there are incorrect info.  And you are dictator-ing this page pretty bad.  And I don't know why?  Benjwong 03:00, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Ok why don't I put the template back and you can change all the zaai to jai, since this is the English wikipedia.  Seems simple enough.  I didn't mean any direct language, but it seems really strange that we are wiping out the entire template and more.... over a preferred spelling.  Benjwong 03:13, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

text: What deletion???  "Luohan cai"???  Benjwong 03:28, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

text: It might be best if you do a refresh on your browser.  You must be seeing different things.  Every z spelling has pretty muched changed to j.  Luohan cai is the only thing deleted since it is bad.  It should be used in the context of describing cai like a cuisine, as in shanghai cai, beijing cai. Benjwong 03:34, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Every page that I have been repairing today move the info from the main page itself to the template.  This article is no different.  With the exception of Luohan cai, nothing else was deleted.  I have said that before politely.  It is best if you tell me exactly what piece of info is completely gone and deleted from the article. Benjwong 04:06, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent changes 

message: This is supposedly a B-level article about food, but it's missing one essential component - the photo. Without a photo of what this looks like, nobody reading this who is new to this dish can even visualize what it looks like. Jon914 08:35, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Keep in mind, this article, along with thousands of others, had its images deleted within the last few months due to a licensing crackdown.. —Viriditas | Talk 08:37, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo? 

message: funny sort of "vegetarians" they have in China. --217.43.206.250 (talk) 04:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They are definitely listed in some recipes. Gandhi once sternly lectured to a group of Burmese (Theravada) Buddhists, saying that they weren't serious Buddhists if they ate meat and seafood. However, Burmese Buddhist fisherman claim they are simply "saving the fish from drowning." Never underestimate humans' ability to rationalize. Badagnani (talk) 04:21, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

text: There are two "versions" of Buddha's delight: 1- the original vegetarian Buddhist delight which would exclude all non-vegetables (such as oysters, shrimp and oyster sauce) and pungent seasonings (such as garlic, leeks, onions, chives, etc.,) 2- the popular Buddhist delight that may or may not be entirely vegetarian and may or may not include the pungent seasonings.  (BTW, there is such an ingredient as vegetarian oyster sauce.)  A statement referring to the two existing versions of Buddha's delight would clear up some of this confusion. ShiHua (talk) 03:42, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

text: As a native Hong-konger, I can say that the non-vegetarian ingredients listed on this page come from a different dish, Poon choi (盆菜). Poon-choi is commonly consumed as an auspicious dish during the Chinese New Year celebrations. The confusion arises because Poon-choi is prepared by the mixing of many cooked dishes (each prepared according to their individual recipes; the central theme is soy-sauce flavoring). One of the "component" of Poon-choi happens to be the soy-sauce flavored version of Buddha's Delight; hence the confusion. Other components of poon-choi contain a lot of meat (pork, chicken and duck) and seafood (such as oysters, abalones, prawns - some high-end variants might contain shark's fin.) Poon-choi is never considered a vegetarian preparation unless it is specifically labeled otherwise. 75.142.100.72 (talk) 10:30, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dried oysters, shrimp and oyster sauce? 

message: When editing in the future, try not to remove huge areas of text from an article without consensus, as in this edit. Even more important is to avoid WP:STALK, which is an important and fundamental policy of Wikipedia. Badagnani (talk) 05:09, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Second request

message: When editing in the future, try not to remove huge areas of text from an article without consensus, as in this edit. Even more important is to avoid WP:STALK, which is an important and fundamental policy of Wikipedia. Badagnani (talk) 06:01, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Third request

message: I don't understand why we need anything but English in the list of ingredients. Viriditas (talk) 01:24, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There are several reasons. First, many of the ingredients have names that Chinese people believe to sound auspiciously like other phrases related to luck, money, etc.; secondly, because not every ingredient has its own WP article; thirdly, to facilitate searching and finding references for this subject in Chinese (something very important when building an article on a Chinese cuisine item); and finally, to be as encyclopedic as possible. Badagnani (talk) 03:25, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure that's how we write food and drink articles.  Can you find someone to back you up on this or find a relevant source? Viriditas (talk) 10:02, 25 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Ok.  Can you show me any GA or FA food and drink articles that use this format? Viriditas (talk) 09:15, 27 April 2009 (UTC)

text: I would offer one rationale for keeping the foreign (Chinese) scripts on this article, as an interim mitigation measure. Currently, the two Chinese editions of these article (in Written Chinese and in Cantonese respectively) are both stubs, despite the popularity of the dish. Unless the situation on those two editions improves, it will be helpful to keep these foreign scripts on this article so that other Wikipedians can use them as a research aid. However, from an editing standpoint, the bilingual cross-reference need not be hosted on the main English article - it can be hosted anywhere, as long as (1) that alternative location is clearly linked from the article, (2) that alternative location is also freely-editable, in the spirit of Wikipedia, so that nobody can claim monopolistic control over the the cross-reference. 75.142.100.72 (talk) 12:49, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foreign language 

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