Talk:Wim Hof

message: I'm pasting material I removed from the unnecessary "Media appearances" section here, in case editors would like to use the sources to pull some content. Please be aware that most are primary sources. 
 Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 18:06, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I think these are relevant for the readers, so I don't think this should have been removed. 85.144.218.187 (talk) 10:55, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The best path forward to restoring this content is to find secondary sources that cover these appearances. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 12:18, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trimmed material 

message: I added an over-quotation template to the Wim Hof Method section, because the text is mostly quotes.  On top of that, it has the back-and-forth style of two opposing editors each trying to have the last word.  I will try to condense this section, remove the long quotes, and trim it down to only the higher-quality references once I have time to vet them.  As it now stands it's a mess of competing references. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 03:21, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, I removed the part about how a survey asked how the Wim Hof Method had improved peoples' lives: a) who cares, and b) the only reference was to YouTube, an unreliable source. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 03:28, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

text: I decided to be WP:BOLD and greatly condensed the Wim Hof Method section, removing most of the quotes and some of the less-relevant studies, as the section was a laundry list of low-quality studies of Hof's method, mostly citing primary sources.  I took out my earlier over-quotation template since that problem has been fixed.  I tried to make it clearer that data on Hof's method is conflicting and equivocal and leave it at that, rather than burying the reader in highly technical direct quotes, but left in a couple of concrete example studies.  I think it reads much more cleanly now. WeirdNAnnoyed (talk) 19:31, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you have trimmed it in such a way that a lot of relevant information has been removed. I would ad a summary of each research, and also make sure to correctly quote as well as list the interpretation of the results of the studies. For Example, the most important result of the 2014 Radboud study is not that it decrease pro-inflammatory markers, but that it proved that everybody can indeed influence their autonomic nervous system and immun system. I will ad a few sections, to make sure that this text is either corrected or added on. The edits made have causede the text to be more complicated for the reader. 85.144.218.187 (talk) 10:54, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

text: As this is a MIT study, I think you have trimmed the text in such a way, that you are removing relevant sources. I am not sure why you keep trimming the text, but it seems to be a little suspicious. Please make sure to trim only the part of which you talk about here. 85.144.218.187 (talk) 10:57, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Quotations

message: : my suggestion is to remove the last year's edits 
It is clear that a person Scott Carney, is trying to wreck this page by:
1. removing facts
2. Adding himself to make himself relevant 
3. Adding inaccurate information only with the object of trying to spin the tex.
Moderators, please make sure to look into this. 95.97.158.198 (talk) 12:18, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I do think the Carney content in the lead was misplaced and undue, and I removed it. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 12:27, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scott Carney is editing the page: please remove his last year's edits. 

message: Change:
At least one person has died from a heart attack after cold-water immersion.[32]
TO
At least one person has died after cold-water immersion.[32]
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If you look at the source of the article, a heart attack is not mentioned. I don't see it any other articles about the issue either. Jefeljefe (talk) 14:23, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me!  02:51, 25 September 2023 (UTC)

text: The person who died of cold water immersion in the UK was not doing the Wim Hof Method, but were training with an Oxygen Advantage instructor and the coroner said it was from a cardiac arrhythmia (aka heart attack). I don't see a reason to include this death on Wim Hof's page, but it could go into an article on cold water swimming. See this link for reference: https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2023/sep/27/coroner-cold-water-immersion-regulation-kellie-poole-death Switfoot (talk) 17:28, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 September 2023 

message: This is the compiled list of Wim Hof's Guinness World Records. Hof only currently holds 1 Guinness World Record (Barefoot Half-Marathon). He has set and then broken "Full Body Contact With Ice (Male)" 15 times (most of the time only adding a few minutes between talk show appearances). He was the originator of all the records he has participated in, and most were not competitive. Most of the dates mentioned in this current entry are inaccurate. 
No other records that Wim Hof claims on his website match any other record keeping body. Nor are they even fully at what they even are other than a number (WimHofMethod.com claims 26 total world records).  
Wim Hof legitimately only has ever held 3 distinct Guinness World Records. Switfoot (talk) 16:14, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Records 

message: There are more relevant studies than the one listed here. 2603:7081:800:5DF2:81C:AA65:D41F:F77D (talk) 06:43, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of scientific research 

message: The Guinness World Record Book website now reports that on February 18, 2024, a new record for the barefoot half-marathon was set (1 hr 50 min 42 sec). Thus, the statement that Hof holds this Guinness World Record is outdated. 
Here's the source:
https://www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/fastest-half-marathon-barefoot-on-icesnow 71.163.238.68 (talk) 14:44, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  correction to claim about Hof's Guinness World Record for Barefoot Half-Marathon 

message: All references on method-related deaths section has been checked, they are all misleading. None of the links/references entered has proof (not even claim) that any of deaths was correlated with the method itself. One reference does not even talk about the method at all and is obituary to 17 year old guy passed away. Well, it is clear that whoever added this section to this article is not only biased but has a calculated campaign against Wim Hof.  Kraxmalism (talk) 06:35, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Method-related deaths section is full of misleadings