Talk:Damian Green

message: For the benefit of any americans editing this, the Daily Telegraphs nickname is the Torygraph.  Tory is a name for the Conservatives, kind of like saying GOP.  Except it means cattle thief. Dolive21 (talk) 09:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Dolive, that's a very biased way to try to discredit an entire publication's reporting of Green's arrest. Note that just about all the UK newspapers have been reporting this, which criticisms being published in almost as many. The Telegraph is perfectly entitled to be used as a source on this. John Smith's (talk) 13:25, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Americans? What are you talking about? This is an international encyclopedia, not one exclusively for Americans and Brits. John is right that the Telegraph is a perfectly acceptable source, as would the equally prejudiced Guardian be. Thanks, SqueakBox 13:30, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  SqueakBox, quite true.  This is however the english language Wikipedia, and the majority of editors are americans.  Still, a silly mistake.  John Smith, I just felt that it's bias might be relevant having found a few references to Telegraph articles.  The Guardian has been almost as strongly against the arrest as the Telegraph.  In the interest of fairness, the Guardians nickname is the Grauniad, because it used to have a lot of spelling mistakes (and the odd factual one).  As a reader of the Guardian and the son of a former sub editor at that paper, both drive me crazy, as does the bias evident in their reporting on some areas. Dolive21 (talk) 16:55, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: 'The majority of editors are 'Americans'? where on earth did you dig that up from? It seems that promoting editorial bias isn't your only hobby, we can add making stuff up to the list as well, lol. Twobells (talk) 12:53, 6 March 2013 (UTC)

text: Yes, I know about the Guardian's nickname. And as I said, the fact it and other papers are making criticisms of this mean that any political bias the Telegraph has is quite irrelevant. It is a fairly-well regarded broadsheet. John Smith's (talk) 20:09, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: in regards to the user Dolive21 comment's, they did Wikipedia editors a great service offering us all a textbook example of bias with his attempts to paint a quality and more importantly legitimate British newspaper as the 'Torygraph', this is how bias worms its way into articles while trying to present itself as 'neutral', we should all thank them while reminding ourselves to look for it in every article.  Twobells (talk) 12:45, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Telegraph 

message: What exactly was he arrested for? There are two seperate quotations which conflict with each other... Does the fact that they were counter-terrorism police mean that this was in some way a terrorism investigation or that anti-terrorism powers were used? --Fleeelf (talk) 21:00, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It would appear that both quotations are correct, he was arrested for both conspiring to commit and aiding and abbetting. Still no idea about the terrorism thing though...--Fleeelf (talk) 23:39, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Arrested

message: I removed:
:making a faux pas in having already asked a question of Chancellor of the Exchequer Gordon Brown earlier the same day. 
It's not a faux pas to ask a question in a question time session before making one's maiden speech - a maiden speech is the member's first formal speech in a debate, not just the first time they pipe up from the floor. It takes weeks or months to get through the many maiden speeches in each new parliament - members can hardly be expected to keep schtum until their turn arrives. 109.154.71.0 (talk) 20:42, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maiden speech 

message: This article is currently seriously imbalanced - Green has been an MP since 1997, and so has a fairly lengthy political career to write about, but this article devotes most of its length to his arrest in 2008. That's understandable, as it is arguably the most notable thing that's happened to him, but given that the arrest didn't result in charges being brought it now looks a bit excessive. That section ought to be cut down, and the section on the rest of his career expanded if possible, to turn this into more of a biography and less of an article about a single news story. Robofish (talk) 12:18, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I just looked at the article and the bias is still there - let me get my pruning shears. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 08:33, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unbalanced article 

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