Talk:London, Midland and Scottish Railway

message: Some named expresses I can think of are:
* Devonian, which ran from Bradford (I think) to Bristol (and not to Devon!)
** See this article where there is a splendid photo of a train on this service - and it was from Bradford, and it did run to Devon (seems little point in calling it the Devonian otherwise) Peter Shearan 13:46, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Master Cutler was a GN and GC joint Pullman that ran from Sheffield Victoria to London Kings Cross via Retford.  It only moved to ex-LMS metals after the run down of services from Sheffield Victoria in the 1960s.  Also, the Pines was one of those trains that used to split repeatedly - during winter months it had portions that went to Leeds, Bradford (split at Birmingham and again at Sheffield) and Manchester, Liverpool (split at Crewe).  During the summer they ran as completely separate trains due to the extra demand with the Pines being the Manchester train.  BaseTurnComplete 10:16, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Named Expresses

message: Someone has added a note under the heading "Resurrection" suggesting the new company London Midland is a reincarnation of the LMS. I hardly think so but do others agree? Chevin (talk) 17:48, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I agree with you. The LMS was an integrated railway that owned the track, stations, trains and staff. LM is merely a franchise to run train services. Perhaps the title should be Reuse of the name London Midland - if the text is considered worthy to remain.Pyrotec (talk) 17:56, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well yes, but, even then, it it's only a small part of the LMS.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chevin (talk • contribs) 09:25, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: London Midland?

message: I invite anyone to put details of potential reference sources here, to be used in the future push for GA status for this article.
For my part I have come across this  very entertaining site, which seems to have numerous links to other related sites.  Not sure if the actual site linked to there is admissable though as it is an amateur reconstruction of what the LMS website might have looked like had the internet been around in the 1930s!  Certainly an interesting thought! ColourSarge (talk) 00:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further reference material for future use 

message: Where does this claim come from?  I found The railway heritage committee say The LMS became the Empire’s largest joint stock company. --Robert EA Harvey (talk) 20:09, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  largest joint stock company? 

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message: No map? Sca (talk) 16:07, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: No, because it would be huge and extremely complicated. In Great Britain alone, the LMS owned (or jointly owned) routes extending to Holyhead, Stranraer, Oban and Kyle of Lochalsh in the west; Thurso in the north; Lowestoft and Shoeburyness in the east; and Broadstone in the south. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 17:36, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Understand, but an illustrative map wouldn't have to show every minor bit of trackage. It would be helpful to have a general visual representation showing the extent of the far-flung LMS network (with which non-UK readers and younger readers will not be familiar). Sca (talk) 20:29, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Route map

message: It was a for-profit company listed on the stock market. 
What was its financial performance like? Did it make profits, or lose money? Did its shares outperform the stock market or lag? How did its shares perform relative to other railway companies in the UK? Dividends? Return on capital?
There is only an unreferenced sentence on this: "In 1938, the LMS operated 6,870 miles (11,056 km) of railway (excluding its lines in Northern Ireland), but its profitability was generally disappointing, with a rate of return of only 2.7%. "
Rate of return on what?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.160.165.186 (talk) 09:42, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did it make any profit?