Talk:Mass in the Catholic Church

message: Perhaps some mention should be made of the vast differences between catholic masses on the two continents, as NA masses take much greater influence from protestant ceremonies and ten to focus on the words of the priest, as opposed to the european tradition of primary focus on sacramental celebration and reflection. --NEMT 21:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: well I don't find such "vast differences". References? A ntv (talk) 23:04, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  North American vs. Europe 

message: After the split from Mass (liturgy), what about to change the images? But I've no found on Commons a good image of a Mass being celebrated in a standard church without any peculiarity. A ntv (talk) 23:04, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: I'm pretty sure that table is a little off.  I remember reading that a priest can perform three masses on a Sunday, and I know that is almost always what is done at my parish.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.217.183.225 (talk) 16:23, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The limit is per-priest only. St. Patrick's probably has at least three priests with such a schedule. Elizium23 (talk) 17:43, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  # of masses per priest per day 

message: I quickly glanced over the Mass (Catholic Church) and Mass (liturgy) articles and don't understand the difference, because to a layman, things like sacrament and Eucharist may as well be Klingon. If someone who knows the difference can confirm the difference is that the former is about masses within the Catholic Church, and the latter about masses in general, then please replace the  at the top of the article to . Thanks. --82.170.113.123 (talk) 21:58, 20 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  See also: [[Mass (liturgy)]] 

message: I notice there's one in the table, but no footnote. I found it on this dif, but it was removed, fyi...Smarkflea (talk) 22:07, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I've restored it; Esoglou is not ... here ... to justify why he removed it in the first place. Thanks. Elizium23 (talk) 22:40, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asterisk 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Should all occurrences of "Mass" be capitalized in this article? Looking at Google scholar, I can't tell what style is predominant. EyeTripleE (talk) 06:28, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The wording of MOS:DOCTCAPS ("Doctrinal topics, canonical religious ideas, and procedural systems that may be traditionally capitalized within a faith or field are given in lower case in Wikipedia, such as virgin birth (as a common noun), original sin, transubstantiation, and method acting") makes it tempting to not capitalise. However, the relevant section of the Catechism introduces the title "Mass" as "The Holy Mass". I would argue that this use of the definite article, in what would reasonably be considered a definitive source, should be interpreted as making Mass a proper noun. Per the MOS, therefore, "philosophies, theories, movements, doctrines, methods, processes, systems of thought and practice, and fields of study are not capitalized, unless the name derives from a proper name," so it should be capitalised. Thoughts? Triptothecottage (talk) 02:43, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization 

message: The pandemy of COVID-19 has been followed by a temporary suspension of the liturgical celebrations in order to prevent the spread of the virus. At the end of the lockdown, in many countries, it was signed a memorandum of understanding between the public authority and the representatives of the main religions active into the respective jurisdictions.
On 7 May 2020 the Episcopal Conference of Italy and the Conte II Cabinet has signed in Rome a four-pages protocol which has come into force on May 18, 2020. The related text is available in Italian on the instittional websites of the two contracting parties: chiesacattolica.it and governo.it.
The protocol forbid the use of the exorcistic sacramental of the holy water, the Mass handshake, to have choirs during liturgical celebrations, to celebrate particular Holy Rites like the Sacrament of the Confirmation. The diocesan ordinary can provide further dispositions such as the prohibition of any procession (in order to avoid human gatherings, even if Mass in open spaces are encouraged by the regulament itself). 
Volunteers or collaborators of the celebrating priest are delegated to take care of the execution of the new rules but the Police is not prevented nor by the contract nor by the national law to have the right, the access in holy places and the iniziative to enforce its exectuin, e.g. in cases of a negligent internal order service.
Countries other than Italy will probably have similar understandings at a national level. Precriptions may be different from a country to another so as not to have yet the Ecumene, referred as the same Roman Catholic Liturgy celebrated all over the world. This is the main effect of this kind of reforms.
Hopefully, the WP article would dedicate a specific section to the new post COVID-19 reformated Roman Catholic Liturgy.
* I doubt if there will be any lasting changes in the Mass after the period of Covid-19 ends, but certainly if there are this would require mention in the article. Jzsj (talk) 13:43, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The new liturgy after the pandemy of COVID-19 

message: User Sirhappydude has edit warred this change to the lead. Some of this is excessive for the WP:LEAD. Some of it is redundant with the remainder of the article. Whatever remains of this edit should be added later in the article. There is also excessive use of bold and change in the article's variation of English. Pinging frequent editors  and . Sundayclose (talk) 02:20, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not an expert on the subject but I believe that the Mass is the celebration of the Eucharist (of the holy sacrifice), since the Eucharist is a sacrifice. And then there is no doubt that the first celebration of the Mass where the sacrifice of the Eucharist was made was at the Last Supper. But I do not know, you should see what the documents such as the councils, catechism, encyclopedias say about the Mass and what is the difference between the Mass and the Eucharist. I think the Mass is the celebration, and the Eucharist is the sacrifice. But the Mass is called too "The holy sacrifice of the Mass"... Rafaelosornio (talk) 04:36, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to the lead 

message: The chief reference quoted while discussing the Lord's prayer says: "the priest folds or joins his hands, ...during ... most of the Eucharistic prayer." I ask you, is this true?   Jzsj (talk) 07:38, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Priest's hands while praying at Mass 

message: Write in three paragraphs how the Catholics prepare their mass 41.57.95.254 (talk) 10:28, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religious and Moral Education 

message: The redirect Mass, Nuptial has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Veverve (talk) 22:09, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Mass, Nuptial]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The redirect Gold Mass has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Veverve (talk) 22:11, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
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message: The redirect White Mass has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Veverve (talk) 22:12, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
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message: These three masses were removed from the article in December 2021 as being too long and US-centric. I think they would overwhelm the page in their current state, but the content does seem encyclopedic; does anyone have any thoughts on what to do with it? Restoring the content also seemed to be supported by a few editors in the above RFD; I brought up potentially creating a Mass in the United States article, but I honestly have no clue about the topic area and whether or not that would be a good idea; it didn't get any attention before the discussion got closed. Skarmory (talk • contribs) 11:11, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: If there are enough sources on this subject, they should exist under their own article (called Color masses or something similar), as Mass in the United States would be too broad a subject and would likely be mostly a US-centric duplication of this article. If you need help finding resources on this subject, I can see what I round up. ~ Pbritti (talk) 14:09, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  thought about color masses, but I thought that might end up being an arbitrary grouping; it's probably fine, though. I'll take a look at google books sometime and see what I can get, but help would also be much appreciated (I'm not Christian, I'm not very familiar with Christianity and its traditions, and I definitely know nothing about these color masses). Skarmory (talk • contribs) 04:05, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  White, Rose and Gold Mass