Talk:Characters of Myst

message: These characters really shouldn't link to the related book.  Those articles don't really provide much insight about the characters.  New content should be written or the links should be taken out entirely.  --Phoenix Hacker 11:04, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Characters

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message: I changed the page from this to this. I like the pictures consistently on the left, especially with the  between the character sections (I just discovered this useful template!). Comments on the overall flow of the article with the picture placement? — OranL (talk) 18:10, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: STOP RIGHT THERE! Unfortunately, Oran, you're not supposed to do that; the Manual of Style forbids left-aligned images under level three headings as it breaks up the flow of text and disconnects the header. :P Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 12:21, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Gah...rules, rules. I changed the picture placement so they're above the headers. I don't know if it's better than the staggered left/right. How does it look now? — OranL (talk) 18:05, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I personally prefer right-align images or staggered layouts myself.  Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 18:51, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reformatted picture/text flow

message: Regarding this edit: I thought that being "fatally poisoned" was saying that he died from it. — OranL (talk) 19:39, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, I reverted it. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 21:04, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fatal poisoning 

message: I think its a good idea, as the article on that character has yet to show anything substantive in the way of reliable sources, and would strengthen the characters of myst article. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 23:45, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh, I thought it already had been. Really, I think you can redirect it straight, as I'm not sure what else in the way of verifiable info we can add about the character (he/she's faceless, after all.) Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 23:56, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Yeah, I think you could be right there. The extent to which this facelessness is a storytelling mechanic is already covered in the Myst article, and as there is literally nothing to the character, there's nothing to say except plot repetition. Redirecting it here would be fine, with a brief mention in the intro that the player character is essentially the player themselves. -- Sabre (talk) 00:47, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge Stranger here

message: the characters section of this page explains far too much in terms of the other Myst stories. for example, the ending of the first Myst is given away, which for someone who has not yet played myst means that they will know not to free either of the brothers. at least this detail should be deleted, or should be flagged as being a spoiler.
:If you don't want the be spoiled.. then why are you reading articles related to the games? Rehevkor ✉ 03:56, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: NO. I AGREE! There is no need for spoilers on this page. I was taken unawares, looking for background and trivia. This page should provide general information without giving away the plot points. Ed8r (talk) 21:17, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Take a read of WP:SPOILER, you have to include key plot points for an article to be comprehensive. Wikipedia is not the place for trivia, however. Rehevkor ✉ 21:21, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  giving away too much! 

message: If you take a look at [ the old Stranger (Myst) article], it had a ton of information on it, and it was merged because there was nothing to be said about this character? Come on... if you're going to get rid of the article, at least put some of the great information that was on it back on this page. We agreed to merge it, not delete it. Are there any objections to me adding the Stranger to this list, as he is the player character in 4 of the 5 games. C Teng [talk] 01:44, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is there's nothing verifiable about it. There are no reliable sources that I could find; as such, the paragraph in development will have to suffice. --Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 02:19, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  We were supposed to '''merge''' Stranger, not delete it. 

message: So are we going to formally merge these articles? — OranL (talk) 20:19, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Support. Currently article is unsoursed and full of redundant plot information that is either trivial or already in the respective articles. All the necessary information has already been merged.  Rehevkor ✉ 23:20, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

text: *Support as per my statements above: fails WP:N, better served in larger topic. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 17:25, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual merge 

message: This bit of info is in the article for Riven (and likely a few other articles as well though I have not checked - and no, I did not add it to any others apart from this one) and the fact that she did voice her is a well-known piece of information amongst Myst fans (she's even listed in Riven's credits as Voice-Over Talent for Catherine!).
To see her credit - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsypiWVslF4 view that video and go to playback mark 5:08 and pause the screen. Bloody Wikipedia users. --99.186.110.193 (talk) 19:26, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You need verifiable sources... content on IMDB, where it can be user-contributed, does not count. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 20:24, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Verifiable source apart from the blasted game credits itself? http://i.imgur.com/XzcDi.jpg Seriously - it's the truth. Why bother going to such a length if it were complete poppycock? --99.186.110.193 (talk) 06:31, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: While I'm at it - it's also listed here - http://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/riven-the-sequel-to-myst/credits --99.186.110.193 (talk) 06:40, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Screenshots are not reliable. Mobygames is the same way. It doesn't matter if it's "true", it matters what can be certified in reliable sources. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs(talk) 15:02, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

text: So in your quest to assert you're right, you're deeming the source material - i.e. the game itself - wrong? Completely unbiased pursuit of knowledge there, sir. --99.186.110.193 (talk) 01:32, 28 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Thank you! I'm sure this will be obliterated as a viable source of info per Wiki-bureaucratic nonsense. I also have an email from Cyan Worlds employee Tony Fryman confirming that Altay did in fact provide the voice of Catherine as it pertains to Riven. Again, I'm sure it too will be blown out of the water. --99.186.110.193 (talk) 17:04, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Emails aren't usable as sources - it's hard to verify as fact (anyone can write an email saying whatever they want, to or from whomever they want). The manual alone should suffice as far as I can see. Please assume good faith though, it may seem unfair but any editor has rights enough to demand information is verified to the highest degree. Rehevkor ✉ 17:34, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well told. Though I'm curious as to the lapse in logic behind the email coming from a known employee (the CFO of Cyan Worlds, last I knew) of the company behind the game (in fact, he was also in the game) being "whomever" or "whatever". It seems ridiculous that an email waiving rights to an image is acceptable concerning copyright but when one is potentially presented concerning purposes of information verification it is somehow deemed useless in contrast. --99.186.110.193 (talk) 18:03, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Just how it works, sorry. I have a few emails from RAWA saying this and that but they're just not usable as sources, it's only my word that they're really from him. Rehevkor ✉ 18:11, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rengin Altay voicing Catherine in Riven 

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message: No mention of Nelah?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.61.180.106 (talk) 15:57, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
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