Talk:Didacticism

message: This should be merged with didactics.
:I disagree! I think it's just fine having this article on didacticism in literature and art. It should certainly be expanded though. --Midnightdreary 23:47, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: It seems the examples given for this article are not broad enough to be useful to every reader. Perhaps adding references from a more varied sample of pop culture (e.g. The Matrix films) would prove beneficial to a wider audience.
Is this correct, that "The Raven" is considered didactic literature, albeit not intentional on the part of Poe?Sea Wolf (talk) 03:33, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't really see how "The Raven" would be considered didactic by anybody, especially given Poe's distaste for didacticism. Jeff Silvers (talk) 01:51, 18 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I concur.  I've removed the example; if anyone can find a scholarly article or other such source offering opinions to the contrary, feel free to restore it (with citation, of course).4.226.222.165 (talk) 10:21, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Examples

message: I think a case can easily be made to show that the argumentative dialectic as it came from Plato's Academy and was refined by Aristotle's Lyceum (with Syllogism) was replaced with the more efficient dialectic because as Europe progressed there were many more students and the dialectic was inefficient --
great source.
===Behavioral (vs cognitive)===
*Didactic teaching relies on lectures, books, and homework -- and in the end, a grade.  That is how the "argument" is made, with a postitive behaviorial punishment (for not grokking the teachers' world-views).
*Dialectic is cognitive because it leverages directly working with the students' thoughts and sill exists in seminar-type instruction for upper levels (and better didactic students).  But, in the end, if the student says something that is not in alignment w/ the teachers' world-views, it will result in the punishment of a poorer grade or evaluation showing the behavioral relationship between didactic and dialectic.
In psych it is CBT, Cognitive Behavior Therapy, or in one case Dialectic-behavioral.--John Bessa (talk) 22:40, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Didactic historically follows dialectic

message: *Didactic teaching relies on lectures, books, and homework -- and in the end, a grade.  That is how the "argument" is made, with a postitive behaviorial punishment (for not grokking the teachers' world-views).
*Dialectic is cognitive because it leverages directly working with the students' thoughts and sill exists in seminar-type instruction for upper levels (and better didactic students).  But, in the end, if the student says something that is not in alignment w/ the teachers' world-views, it will result in the punishment of a poorer grade or evaluation showing the behavioral relationship between didactic and dialectic.
In psych it is CBT, Cognitive Behavior Therapy, or in one case Dialectic-behavioral.--John Bessa (talk) 22:40, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Behavioral (vs cognitive)

message: :Hello all, as weak as the article is, I think it does well to bring up "experience" because the phenomenological approach could explain the phenomena of instructional and seminar(al) learning across different and separate civilizations--where I think the article should go to show its importance especially with its respect to multiculturalism.  I read all this material recently but neglected to not citations, but I can find the quickly and are all available through "google books."  Needless to say--critical comments invited.
Didacticism, along with the Dialectic, comprises the vast majority of instructional education.  While the "Socratic" Dialect was the foundation of instruction teaching, and its most common format(for most of the "civilized epoch"), the didactic started to become more common about the time of the [Reformation] as universities became commonplace and their students more numerous.  Didactic instruction was found to be far more efficient for teaching larger numbers as it consists (in its modern format) of uni-direction lectures, textbook assignments, and examination evaluation.  Thus, Didacticism could be considered more important than the Dialectic simply by virtue of the quantity (rather than quality) of modern instruction.  The Dialectic, however, remains the instructional method of choice for higher-level (and hence higher-value) students such as in the form of seminars and thus remains popular in education as well as other disciplines such as psychology (as, for instance, in Dialectical Behavioral Therapy).  Therefore, it is beneficial to consider Didactic and Dialectical methods (or processes) together.
While the Didactic teaching method replaced the Dialectical process in later centuries of Western Civilization, the Didactic method is as ancient as the Dialectic as can been guessed by its Greek etymology.  A recognizable more-recent version of its ancient use of is in the Christian "morality play," which is instructional in it's intent, but popular in delivery.  Ancient Greek didactic plays were performed (and poems recited) for similar purposes, that is to  disseminate moral or ethical lessons, and even to instruct the population about legal compliance.
--John Bessa (talk) 15:09, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: New writing (to insert soon)