Talk:Automatic number announcement circuit

message: MCI no longer exists as a company, should these references be changed to Verizon now?  Androsyn (talk) 16:40, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Dead at least on 6-13-23 2600:1016:B129:CAE2:0:57:64AB:4C01 (talk) 18:43, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: MCI

message: Wikipedia is not a list of phone numbers. This page is for explaining what an ANAC is, not listing every ANAC in the known world. FCYTravis 04:24, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but put it to a vote/consensus before removing the list next time. --Nmatavka (talk) 05:33, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Does this list meet the standards applied to any other Wikipedia content? If this were a list of blonde jokes or light bulb jokes, instead of a list of test numbers that (mostly) no longer work, at this level of usability, it would've been removed in a NY minute. K7L (talk) 18:30, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: +1 NPA-958-2580 can be verified simply by calling it from any regular incumbent landline in Bell Canada territory - the same is presumably true for any of the other system-wide numbers for major carriers. We know that NPA-958-xxxx and 1-NPA-959-xxxx (except +1 204 958-xxxx MTS Winnipeg) are test numbers because those blocks are called out as test numbers in the CO code lists on NANPA.com or CNAC.ca. Even if we don't have "every ANAC in the world" (as a small, local independent telco in Moose Creek, Ontario or somewhere is hard to verify unless one were in Moose Creek) the system-wide 958/959 numbers for the major carriers are verifiable (by calling them from that carrier) and are notable. 204.237.51.164 (talk) 22:06, 2 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia is not a directory 

message: I know there are several numbers that can be used to get your phone number played back to you, and that was the reason why I came here to this article, and the article does not have a number listed that you can call.
One such number that works is 1-800-444-4444.
::It doesn't work anymore.  Try 1-800-437-7950. --Nmatavka (talk) 05:33, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried 1-800-444-4444; from toronto.voip.ms it just gives "number not available from your calling area". If there were issues with it not working as far back as 2010, why is it (and a stack of similar MCI CSR numbers) still on the list? I'm also unsure why we're listing "XYZ Bank, Fraud department" in various forms when these were never intended for ANAC use. K7L (talk) 18:46, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page should have at least one number listed that announces your number 

message: The link at the bottom is broken  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.179.5.200 (talk) 14:21, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  link broken 

message: instead of a giant list, it woudl be much easier to read if this was in tabular format. --RichardMills65 (talk) 17:59, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  giant list 

message: :In one example of this concern, most payphones in the United States are assigned a telephone number and can ring if the number is called. The phone can then be used to make and receive calls by anyone, making it a potential tool in anonymous criminal activity such as narcotics trafficking.
Disputed: So what? Calling any number with caller ID would reveal the info. If they don't want incoming calls to a coin phone, they would disable incoming calls outright or remove the bell. If the ANAC number is unlisted, it's to stop the public from tying up the ANAC machine when telco installers need or want to use it. K7L (talk) 17:35, 31 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unlisted ANAC 

message: Should we remove 020 81 803 803? It goes to the exact same place as 08081707788 and since 080 numbers became free to call from mobiles serves no practical purpose. David Ramsbotham (talk) 20:54, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  United Kingdom 

message: The listing of ANA numbers serves no real purpose and Wikipedia is not a directory service, WP:NOTDIRECTORY, especially not of relatively obscure items that are not encyclopedic, and of interest only for highly specialized audiences which would probably not rely on WP for this information. The article does not even have decent references for its topic. kbrose (talk) 22:40, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I strongly disagree with this edit. I can see removing a purely-local number which only applies to one small city, but if they're system-wide or statewide on a major carrier (such as Verizon, ATT, Bell, Telus...) they are notable. They do serve a real purpose as they're a useful tool for installers, which are not a highly specialised audience as inside wiring largely is the property (and the responsibility) of the subscriber, not the local ILEC. 204.237.51.164 (talk) 21:46, 2 November 2022 (UTC)

text: I've chopped this down to list just the system-wide numbers (or numbers which cover a vast geographic area) on major carriers. The individual local numbers might be difficult to keep up-to-date, but something that's ATT-wide or Telus-wide is likely safe to list as those aren't going to change often. 204.237.51.164 (talk) 01:01, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is about ANAC, the "automatic number announcement circuit".  These large network do not provide ANACs, but a service that may seem to have similar results, but those are not circuits. An ANAC only exists at the local level.  We don't list telephone directories on WP either, for example of 800-numbers, which may be notable somehow.  Listing these numbers is clearly against WP:NOTDIRECTORY. kbrose (talk) 03:02, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not true... all of these numbers are listed in WP: 1-800-222-1222, 1-800-225-5288, 1-800-273-8255, 1-800-273-8255 (single), 1-800-273-8255 (song), 1-800-273-TALK, 1-800-4-A-CHILD, 1-800-4-OK-SODA, 1-800-411-PAIN, 1-800-466-4411, 1-800-4664-411, 1-800-528-1234, 1-800-54-Giant, 1-800-701-BOMB, 1-800-999-9999, 1-800-ABCDEFG, 1-800-ASK-GARY Amphitheatre, 1-800-BING-411, 1-800-BarNone, 1-800-CALL-411, 1-800-CALL-ATT, 1-800-CAN-LEARN, 1-800-COLLECT, 1-800-CONTACTS v. WhenU Inc., 1-800-CRIME-TV, 1-800-Collect, 1-800-DINOSAUR, 1-800-Dinosaur, 1-800-FLOWERS, 1-800-FREE-411, 1-800-FREE-411 (service offering), 1-800-FREE411, 1-800-Flowers, 1-800-Flowers.com, 1-800-Flowers.com, Inc., 1-800-GET-SLIM, 1-800-GET-THIN, 1-800-GET-THIN advertising campaign, 1-800-GOOG-411, 1-800-GOT-JUNK, 1-800-HOTLINEBLING, 1-800-I-FEEL-OK, 1-800-I-FLY-SWA, 1-800-I-Feel-OK, 1-800-Love, 1-800-Love (film), 1-800-MAGIC, 1-800-MISSING, 1-800-MUSIC-NOW, 1-800-MY-APPLE, 1-800-Magic, 1-800-Mattress, 1-800-Missing, 1-800-NEW-FUNK, 1-800-Newfunk Ad (song), 1-800-O-Canada, 1-800-OOPS-JEW, 1-800-PHONE-THX, 1-800-PetMeds, 1-800-Pitshop.com 300, 1-800-THE-ROCK, 1-800-USA-1000, 1-800-USA-RAIL, 1-800-flowers.com, 1-800-free411, 1-800-getthin, 1-800-suicide, 1-800-the-info, 1-800 Contacts, 1-800 Dinosaur, 1-800 Flowers.com, 1-800 Suicide, 1-800 Vindication, 1-800 magic, 1-800 number, 1-866-SPEAK-UP, 1-866RBCTerm.com 200, 1-877-JAIL-FON, 1-888-628-9454, 1-888-88-DREAM, 1-888-COMIC-BOOK, 1-888-GET-ON-GO, 1-900-Lucky, 1-900-Lucky (Medium), 1-900-MIXALOT and that's just North American non-geographic numbers, not PEnnsylvania 6-5000 and the like. 66.102.87.40 (talk) 05:15, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It is perfectly within the scope of WP to write articles about specific telephone numbers if there is a story to tell with references.  But to just list a directory of numbers, you collide with WP:NOTADIRECTORY. kbrose (talk) 14:21, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: What's currently here is not a directory. It's a handful of examples, with fewer than a dozen per country and only stable numbers operating NPA-wide or system-wide across major carriers. Your repeated removal, without consensus, of valid factual information from the article has become edit warring. The usual procedure around here appears to be that the next incident is reported to the administrator, who will roll this back to the last stable version before the edit war (even if you feel that it's the "wrong version") with the page protected or semi-protected until the problematic edits stop. And no, this doesn't need to cross 3RR to cross that line. 66.102.87.40 (talk) 16:53, 3 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: These listings are entirely unsourced. They add nothing to the article, which is already poorly sourced. The whole thing is a piece of hobbyist chatter. Sources and reliable statements would add a lot more to the credibility of the article than lists of telephone numbers. I know source are difficult with this topic, but it is no reason to just let this cancer grow. Take it to ANI or some place, but don't add them again. It is descriptive that this editor would resort to threats immediately when when content against WP guidelines, and poor editing is removed. Examples should illustrate the topic or provide a practical explanation of some sort for an abstract concept. But there is nothing illustrative about listing telephone numbers ad nauseam, other then that the facility was actually installed, but that should be established with reliable references in prose, not by crowd-sourced or plagiarized lists.kbrose (talk) 17:05, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

text: The matter has been taken to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection/Increase#Automatic_number_announcement_circuit - please do not do this again without consensus. 66.102.87.40 (talk) 05:10, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Listing of ANA numbers removed