Talk:Sex toy

message: I did some reorganizing.  Still need to fit clitoral pump in there somewhere.  It seemed silly to separate them all out by which organ they're meant to touch when so many toys have multiple uses anyway, so I grouped vibes together. --Hurtstotouchfire 05:16, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: List of toys

message: There's no mention of nipple toys at all.  Strange.  I'll poke through the history and see if there ever was one.  --Hurtstotouchfire 22:38, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nipple Toys 

message: It seems to me that a sex toys navigation template would be a good idea. Unfortunately, my coding is not yet up to the task. ^_^; DocWatson42 (talk) 12:38, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Navigation template? 

message: This link points to a Baltimore Sun blog about a new sex toy for dogs being manufactured in Brazil. I don't edit this article, but perhaps this should be included, which would also entail changing the definition. Bob98133 (talk) 19:22, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: 0.o Zazaban (talk) 21:24, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canine sex toy? 

message: this is so strange that this shoudl be here. not appropiatrate for kids--Arice911 (talk) 23:41, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not censored, if something is notable, as this is, the article should exist.  ~~ GB fan ~~ talk 01:04, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  wierd... 

message: Somebody keeps adding this stupid image to the article and to dildo articles on other language Wikipedias.  It's not a sex toy but some sort of joke.  A vibrator is a very low powered device running on a couple of batteries and producing nothing more than a buzz.  The jigsaw shown is several hundred watts of health and safety risk (even in normal use), capable of slicing through some pretty tough materials.  Don't say "Nobody would be that stupid", Wikipedia articles are specifically for people who do not know about the subject matter!!!!! --Simon Speed (talk) 21:33, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The image is question is a fucksaw. I have added it to Sex-machine. Jokestress (talk) 21:38, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I stand corrected, it's a real device not a joke.  I'm still left worried about how an encyclopedia handles the reporting of dangerous activities - the sex-machine article now has a brief description and this picture which could serve as a blueprint for a dangerous homebuild. --Simon Speed (talk) 22:07, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There were some reliable sources discussing fucksaws following a recent fucksaw demonstration at Northwestern University. Most journalists focused on the ethics and the ensuing investigation, but some may have discussed the physical dangers (rectovaginal fistulae, etc.). You are welcome to add any reliably-sourced statements about the dangers of fucksaws and similar devices. Jokestress (talk) 22:21, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Reliable sources are notoriously hard to come by in the area of sexuality: the mainstream press concentrates on the lurid, wrapped up in gleeful outrage.  What really worries me about this image is that it shows a homebuilt device based on a power tool.  With a dildo and a jigsaw an amateur could cobble this together in seconds by jamming the dildo on the blade and as soon as the blade breaks (they do!!) you've got a 600W reciprocating dagger inside a human body. --Simon Speed (talk) 22:41, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, these are almost always modified prosumer-level power tools, but despite the risks, Wikipedia is not an advice column or manual. This stuff is so out there it's really not even discussed in sex manuals. This article says they look "highly dangerous." Maybe add that. Jokestress (talk) 23:12, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

text: The principle of "no advice" needs to be applied intelligently.  It comes from the fact that this is an encyclopedia and as such informs and does not advise.   The principle stops us from straying into campaigning and advocacy, it doesn't justify producing content without regard for the consequences.  An encyclopedia also aims to be responsible.  Suppose you told someone about some food and failed to mention that it was laced with rat poison, would you simply be informing them and avoiding giving advice?   How about explaining that to a jury?  --Simon Speed (talk) 23:51, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If you'd like to discuss Wikipedia policy, please go to the appropriate policy page. I found and added a reliable news report of a 2009 injury. You are welcome to find and add more. Jokestress (talk) 00:23, 7 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Thank you very very much for finding and including that piece of information.  I feel much happier about the article with it there.  I don't think it's enough, this is about an extreme activity (like cliff diving) and needs more negativity to be balanced, but the move from nothing to something is very important. --Simon Speed (talk) 09:28, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: [[:File:Jigsaw Squirting Dildo-0.jpg]]

message: First, we need a history section otherwise this article comes off (almost) as one big promotional essay.
Second, the Industry section needs some serious expansion. There are trades shows dedicated to the products and AVN used to have a publication that featured it. Plus, since Trojan and Adam & Eve started running tv ads, there is a "mainstreaming" aspect to consider.
Comments, suggestions, opposition? --Scalhotrod - Just your average banjo playing, drag racing, cowboy... (talk) 19:08, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  2 suggestions... 

message: Please revert the materials section to my latest revision:
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sex_toy&oldid=625271555&diff=prev#Materials_used_in_sex_toys
I edited this section while researching the connection between STD's and materials used in sex toys, condoms, ...
Please revert, I think it would help a bit with the fight against STD's
KVDP (talk) 08:09, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: KVDP, those are poor sources. Reddit, for example, does not count as a WP:Reliable source. And for medical information, you should use high-quality sources, per Wikipedia:Identifying reliable sources (medicine) (WP:MEDRS). That's why I reverted you here and here. The Health and safety concerns section needs more cleanup because of the WP:MEDRS guideline. Flyer22 (talk) 08:10, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Flyer22, agreed, they're not the best sources I used. Still, all sources say the same, and since they're independant, I'm pretty sure what I've written is completely accurate. The article text states that Holistic Wisdom / Lisa Lawless is a reliable source, so why don't we just add Description of sex toy materials Perhaps that adding additional "poor" sources increase the reliability as noted above ? Here are some additional links to add as references:
Materials description by bigteazetoysMaterials description by dangerouslillyMaterials description by discreetsensualityMaterials description by queerkink</ref>Materials description by tunynibblesMaterials description by pleasurepirates</ref>
KVDP (talk) 17:39, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  In Italy, the last year, we have get a christmass three decorated with sex toys. I write a reference, but trere are many more online in english and many others languages. --Damiano Crognali 15:27, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Materials

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message: As I seem to have garnered my own little stalker, here's the talk page discussion as they requested:
Toxicity claims removed from the article as the terminology used states that all toys containing PVC are unsafe for use.  This is not the case, nor does the source even claim this.  The rest is just copy-editing, but for similar reasons.  Curved Space (talk) 06:31, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: As the user requesting talk page input has now been blocked for disruption, it's unlikely they'll reply. Reverting to updated version.  Curved Space (talk) 14:04, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scaremongering terminology 

message: 007faysal (talk) 14:46, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Please specify what needs altering IdreamofJeanie (talk) 14:50, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2018 

message: The tone of this section, particularly the second half, reads as a how-to guide for cleaning your sex toys. Although the concern for people's wellbeing is commendable Wikipedia is not an instruction manual or how-to guide https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_manual,_guidebook,_textbook,_or_scientific_journal I think this section should be reviewed for proper tone.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:801:C100:2920:7823:B9BE:E307:13F3 (talk) 02:40, 26 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Health, safety, and privacy concerns tone 

message: A quote attributed to Page DuBois under this section recurs in both paragraphs present. Indeed, the section both begins and ends in the quote:
* Greek dildos were often made out of leather stuffed with wool in order to give it varying degrees of thickness and firmness. They were often lubricated with olive oil, and used for sexual practice and other activities. The Greeks were also one of the first groups to use the term “toy” in reference to a dildo.[17] Dildos may be seen in some examples of ancient Greek vase art. Some pieces show their use in group sex or in solitary female masturbation.[25] One vessel, of about the sixth century BCE, depicts a scene in which a woman bends over to perform oral sex on a man, while another man is about to thrust a dildo into her anus.[26] shop.
* Page DuBois, a classicist and feminist theorist, suggests that dildos were present in Greek art because the ancient Greek male imagination found it difficult to conceive of sex taking place without penetration. Therefore, female masturbation or sex between women required an artificial phallus to be used.[25] Greek dildos were often made out of leather stuffed with wool in order to give it varying degrees of thickness and firmness. They were often lubricated with olive oil, and used for sexual practice and other activities. The Greeks were also one of the first groups to use the term “toy” in reference to a dildo.[17]  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:387:F:4513:0:0:0:4 (talk) 13:20, 19 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundant entries under History:Ancient Greece