Talk:Open front rounded vowel

message: According to this page, it occurs in Danish. Ciacchi 16:52, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And it seems that Dutch also has it. Could anyone explain it or put it into the article or whatever? Ciacchi 23:12, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm guessing that would be the start vowel of <ui>? CodeCat 19:33, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Danish

message: I am no specialist, but is "veux" pronounced differently in French Canada than peu and  boeuf, which I have been taught it was [pø] and [bø]? As a native Québécois speaker, I doubt it. If they do sound the same, than this article contradicts what we find in the ø article. ---Marc
:As far as I can tell "veux" & "voeux" are both /vø/, while "un boeuf" is [bœf] (though unrounded /œ/ is allophonic), "des boeufs" is [bø], and "peu" is [pø]. - Io Katai 13:19, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont think this article contradicts itself because the vowel in question seems to occur as an allophone only and not as a phoneme. It is therefore still a real vowel, just not one with a phonemic status. Solejheyen (talk) 19:12, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: French Canadian

message: I was about to delete the Swedish reference because the Swedish phonology article cited to support it, doesn't. Then I saw that this was discussed here in 2005, and one contributor said he was going to remove the sound from the Swedish phonology article as well as the Swedish reference from this one, and others disagreed. Well, the situation now is that the two articles are contradictory. Can folks please come to agreement and align the two articles? —Largo Plazo (talk) 20:05, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swedish revisited 

message: This is the only vowel on the IPA chart no one's ever claimed occurs in English. I thought it deserved some kind of special mention. --Lfdder (talk) 22:58, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Doing so might reflect a POV bias.  It would also be difficult to source statements about its non-occurrence in English. — Æµ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 23:08, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I was kidding. Maybe you are too? This is too meta for me. :-( --Lfdder (talk) 23:22, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh! I couldn't tell.  Some things are lost in text. — Æµ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 00:31, 30 March 2013 (UTC)

text: There are zero sources I can find about anyone else doing this but let it be known I compress /ɔɪ/ to [ɶˤ] in rapid speech. Célestine-Edelweiß (talk) 02:23, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  English 

message: In the default font in which Wikipedia text is displayed, at least for me, the letter ɶ looks exactly the same as œ. This seems to be a problem, especially since the article frequently compares and contrasts open [ɶ] vs. open-mid [œ]. Is there any way to solve this problem? AJD (talk) 19:09, 26 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Font problem? 

message: the symbol displays identically to that for [œ] on here, so there are a whole lot of passages that talk about "the contrast between [œ] and [œ]" which display as the same letter — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omoutuazn (talk • contribs) 11:53, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: What OS/browser/font are you using? (And please sign your comments.) Nardog (talk) 11:56, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I made the same comment two years ago (see above); I'm currently using Safari 14.02 on MacOS Big Sur, and it has the same problem in Firefox 88.0.1. The font appears to just be Helvetica. They don't look the same in the edit box (which uses some mono-spaced font)—⟨ɶ⟩ is small caps, ⟨œ⟩ is lowercase—but when I click "publish changes" they will render on the talk page in Helvetica as visually the same character for me. AJD (talk) 20:11, 11 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  On Firefox, when you right click on the big "ɶ" in the infobox, select "Inspect", and open the "Fonts" tab (here's how), what does "Fonts Used" say? Nardog (talk) 04:17, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said, Helvetica. AJD (talk) 04:34, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's what Firefox says? Weird. I suspected it to be a problem with the OS's fallback but that suggests the font itself is flawed. It's even weirder I can hardly find reports on the internet despite it being such a glaring issue... Nardog (talk) 06:33, 12 May 2021 (UTC)

text: Same issue in Safari on my iPad, by the way. AJD (talk) 07:11, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  display issue