Talk:Eth

message: I wonder if there is a relationship between the eth (and maybe the Đ too) with the "tau gallicum" ("gaulish T") used when writting old gaulish language; gaulish was first written in greek alphabet and the greek theta used for a somewhat similar gaulish, then roman influence made them switch to latin alphabet, which has less letters, and so they used a sort of barred D (which may have derived from the theta maybe?).
I'm not a specialist in phonetics, but it seems to me that the usage the eth has some phonetic similarity; could old Norse have borrowed it from gaulish usage?
Srtxg 07:05, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tau gallicum? 

message: In Middle English, ð was no longer used; the Normans did not like characters in English which did not exist in the Latin alphabet. Ð was replaced with th, unfortunately making the voiced consonant indistinguishable from the unvoiced one, as the letter þ was also replaced by this digraph.
This is simply not true, by my understanding.  Firstly, <ð> remained in common use until around the end of the 13th century - it is used, for example, in the Layamon text of Cotton Caligula A. ix (c.1275-1300) - that is, at least 200 years after the Norman Conquest.  Secondly, it was replaced with <þ>, not ; <þ> remained in common use for another two centuries after that.  Finally, I am not aware that there ever was a consistent use of <ð> for voiced and <þ> for unvoiced sounds in English, and the supposed Norman dislike of non-Latin letters can be ruled out altogether by the persistence of <þ>, and the introduction of yogh for sounds written <h> in Old English.
I propose rewriting as follows: "Ð began to fall out of use in the Middle English period, and by the 14th century the /th/ sound was consistently written with þ instead."
: I was about to express my shock that this valid concern had remained unaddressed for over a year.  Then I realised that I posted the unsigned comment above myself, so "fix it yourself" applies.  I have duly done so.  ;)  — Haeleth Talk 23:54, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norman dislike? 

message: The article says that Eth is the only letter capable of representing modern greek Delta's sound. I think this is not true. The traditional romanization has always used D, and, although the sounds does not exactly match, there is no other sound in greek more similar do D. You may also notice that D is spanish is often pronounced like Eth.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.135.135.183 (talk) 21:26, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delta - Eth equivalence 

message: I've discovered that on Mac OS 10.5.7, typing Ð requires that the user must first select "U.S. Extended" as the keyboard layout.  This is done by going to System Preferences > International, then scrolling down through the list and turning on "U.S. Extended" (or some other keyboard layout from the list that includes Ð; I'll continue with "U.S. Extended" since that works for me).  "Show input menu in menu bar" also needs to be turned on.  This causes the input menu to appear (it should appear with a country flag, the US flag in my case).  From the menu, "U.S. Extended" needs to be selected.
Once that's done, Option-d will give ð and Option-Shift-d will give Ð.  If the keyboard layout is on "U.S." instead (that is, not Extended), then Option-d gives ∂ and Option-Shift-d gives Î, which are probably not intended when trying to type Eth.
I don't know how to concisely describe this in the Computer Encoding section of the article, or if it's worthwhile to try.
--James-Chin (talk) 07:17, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Computer Encoding - Mac OSX 

message: Just a quick note, FIX THAT INLINE CITATION. That is no good. Thanks folks. I would do it myself, but I don't know how :(.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.230.214.241 (talk) 23:33, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation 

message: The lede gives the name of the letter as being pronounced with ð, which on the face of it is pretty logical, but...  in the article body, it's stated that the Icelandic name has a θ instead, and is silent on its name in Faroese.  So, is the claim that the voiced is the OE name?  Or the usual IPA one?  84.203.43.181 (talk) 16:54, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Very first one is how English speakers (today) pronounce the word "eth".  — Lfdder (talk) 17:14, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Which speakers?  In what context?  It's not exactly an everyday "word".  Do medievalists and linguists both use "eð"?  In any event, the article could stand clarification on this point.  84.203.43.181 (talk) 18:05, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Does anyone else other than medievalists and linguists ever talk about eth? :-) Regardless, that's the only pronunciation to be found in dictionaries. — Lfdder (talk) 18:25, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Point taken, and several dictionaries do indeed confirm this.  It could stand some clarification and contextualisation all the same, especially as regards its OE usage and (presumed) name.  Waiting for inspiration as how best to do so to strike.  84.203.43.181 (talk) 02:18, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of name of the letter 

message: Other articles mention that "D with stroke" is a different letter from Eth and that Vietnamese uses the former, not the latter. The article for "D with Stroke" says "Unicode has a distinct code point for the visually very similar capital eth, Ð, U+00D0, which can lead to confusion."
Can anyone clarify with appropriate references that the letter in Vietnamese is Eth and not D with Stroke? 
173.164.74.129 (talk) 23:59, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed Vietnamese from this article, it was a recent addition. They are considered different letters. – Thjarkur (talk) 14:35, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I’ve just done the same with Khmer in the initial section, which definitely doesn’t use ð natively (since it’s written in a non-Latin script), and additionally doesn’t appear to commonly use ð or even đ (like Vietnamese does) in transliteration (going by Romanization of Khmer). I’ve left the reference to ð being “sometimes” used in romanisation to represent ឍ thô. Kokoshneta (talk) 13:12, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Used in Vietnamese? 

message: Could someone please explain in the text what the whole section headed "computer input" means? At the moment it assumes an expert level of knowledge. Needs to be explicit. Cassandra — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.74.252.10 (talk) 18:00, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe I have made the section ever so slightly more accessible. – Thjarkur (talk) 23:01, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Computer Input"? 

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thread_title:  "Eþþa" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: This article claims ð was called "ðæt" by Anglo-Saxons, but I just found this:
"However, just as the Cotton Titus manuscript lists as letters what we would call abbreviations, it seems equally likely that the Stowe 57 writer was doing the same and that ð was intended as an abbreviation for the word ðæt rather than the name of the letter." - The "Abecedarium" from British Museum Cotton MS. Titus D 18, V. McCarren & R. Mory, Modern Philology Vol. 87, No. 3, February 1990, pages 266-271  Hurlebatte (talk) 07:19, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was "ðæt" really its name? 

message: It is said to be used in Sunnmøre and Nordfjord. I am from Sunnmøre and i use it, but i dont know about any others really. Older people used it more frequently before. 158.36.235.204 (talk) 20:28, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Still in use in Norway