Talk:51st (Highland) Division

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message: The history outline differs from that. You should correct the data. --129.187.244.28 (talk) 10:39, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox: active 1908 - 1919 - Only ? 

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replies: text:  FYI, 51 (H) Division was attached to the French Army on the Saar, getting patrolling experience on the Maginot Line, when the German attack began in May 1940. The division was  then moved to northern France. It formed part of French 10th army and was involved in operations on the Somme and in the subsequent retreat, until it was overtaken by German armoured formations and forced to surrender. JF42 (talk) 16:42, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I have deleted the image of a Highland Division sergeant wearing a kilt in a Maginot line fort in 1940, and the associated text in the article suggesting that "However Imperial War Museum images show the men of the 51st Highland Division wearing kilts while they manned the Maginot Line in France in 1939 and 1940." (bold added).
Firstly, the interpretation of a primary source could be judged to be WP:OR and does not over-ride the detailed researches of a notable historical writer. Secondly, the other photographs  of the Highland Division on the Maginot Line all show soldiers in this unit dressed in the normal battledress of the British Army at the time. Lastly, the photograph that I have deleted is clearly a propaganda photograph of a staged scene. Clues include the collection of rifles with their bayonets fixed inside a concrete bunker - looks wonderfully warlike, but of no real use (in fact, an actual danger) inside the fortifications unless they have been breached by the enemy; and the box for the periscope, with its French stencilling, which is rather awkwardly positioned for the user. I suspect that the sergeant in the photograph was persuaded to borrow a bandsman's kilt.ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 14:44, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Wikipedia editor taken in by WW2 propaganda photograph" 

message: The 'HD' flash was adopted by the re-formed 51st Highland Division in 1941-42. Prior to that the divisional formation flash was a St Andrews Cross.
JF42 (talk) 16:46, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  HD flash 

message: Looking at the edit by User:JF42, is this edit based on precise information, or simply on the fact that the officers were sent to a different destination? My understanding of sources is that all the "other ranks" went to Stalag XX in the first instance - though many ended up in other camps once the Germans got their POW arrangements a bit more organised.ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 07:23, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I have rephrased to show that the officers went elsewhere. If anyone persists with the view that any significant number of other ranks initially went to a different camp, good refs would be needed. ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 20:28, 8 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  The edit was indeed based on the simple fact that the officer POWs of 51<H>Div were sent to separate camps.
JF42 (talk) 12:35, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  POW destination following St Valery 

message: " Daylight patrol of the 1/6th Battalion, Seaforth Highlanders ... Troops firing into a dug-out in a deserted German trench to dislodge any remaining Germans."
This photograph has been carelessly captioned, either by IWM or Wikimedia Commons.  It is plainly not an action photograph. The one soldier with his rifle vaguely at the ready as he peers into the dug-out entrance is evidently not firing. Not least because a fellow soldier, visible in the entrance, has already entered the dugout and is inspecting the position.
JF42 (talk) 02:43, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photograph: 'Battle of the Scarpe' - inaccurate caption