Talk:Ayelet Waldman

message: Seems to me that Chabon's criticism of bloggers' reactions to the "Motherlove" essay is more pertinent than discussion of his "torrid" sex life.   I left in the direct quote that Professorkemp added, but question the deletion of his opinions of the "slagosphere."129.186.159.110 22:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Chabon's "Pages" interview

message: How many hundreds of thousands of people are there living in and around Novato. Doubtless at least a few of them are friends of Ms. Waldman. Her editor or agent might have rewritten it. Why cast the implied aspersion on Waldman's integrity, except from personal animus.
:With all the media attention that Wikipedia is getting, it's not surprising that people are inclined to "fix" their own articles - there's not necessarily anything sinister about it.  But if Waldman has edited this article, then we need to add the "notable wikipedian" tag to this discussion page.  Saranary 19:56, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grow up. 

message: The last sentence in the Judaism section ends with 
". . ., she did not celebrate becoming a Bat Mitzvah.[1]"
Does this mean that a) she did not go through the ritual known as a bat mitzvah, or b) that she did go through it but did not feel joyful about it?  Someone knowledgeable should fix this, or else remove it entirely. (This article seems to include far too many minutiae about the life of its subject.)Daqu (talk) 15:39, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarity needed 

message: I'm puzzled by this long, rather adulatory, obsessively detailed article about a minor writer. It would be interesting to know exactly who wrote it. Friends, relatives, admirers of Michael Chabon?
Wikipedia needs to exercise safeguards against articles so pumped up by delusions about their subject's importance that they appear comical.
Younggoldchip (talk) 15:22, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I found it interesting, well-referenced, etc.  The writer has over 300,000 ghits.  The way we guard against problems is requiring references.  Beyond that, one's subjective view as to whether a 3,000-ghit writer is unimportant is of no greater weight than the subjective view of a contrary writer ... as long as the refs are there.--Epeefleche (talk) 17:28, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

text: Feel free to, if you have RS material, fill out their bios further.  There is no deadline.  The key to saving the Project from subjective "I don't think this person is sufficiently important to warrant this coverage" arguments is that we require RS sourcing.  This article appears to be quite well sourced. I didn't have a hand at all in what you object to, but I think it's fine and well within the policies of the project.  Sometimes a writer may attract attention from a great fan, and we end up the recipient of a well-written and extensive article.  That's great.  As long as it is accurate, the sourcing is RS, and it is well-written.  We don't in such circumstances say delete RS-supported references and attending text because one or more of us thinks "this writer is lesser than writer x, and should therefore have a shorter article."  If you think anything incorrectly cites a source, for example, feel free to address that.  But as to the meta issue, though I understand your view the approach of the Project is as I describe. --Epeefleche (talk) 21:08, 27 November 2012 (UTC)

text: I concur with User:Epeefleche that I don't think there's any significant problem here. If you have specific examples of excessive detail, or non-neutral or nonverified content, you can post them here, or you can try editing those areas and see if there's any objection. But as Epeefleche said, Wikipedia does not support arbitrarily shortening the article so that the size is proportional to your estimation of the topic's value. (For the record, I have never read any of Waldman's work nor have any particular interest in her. The person who originally drafted this article probably was a fan, or maybe just someone interested in her as a subject. It's irrelevant.) Theoldsparkle (talk) 15:13, 28 November 2012 (UTC)

text: Young -- the length of your comments, if we adopt your approach, suggest that you are obsessively and passionately anti-Waldman.  Are you her husband? Seriously -- enough already.  No need to pour cold water on editors who donate their time to add appropriate information to articles.  Or engage in personal attacks, but characterizing the above response to you by the editor as "whining."  If you think something else is more important, go work on editing an article on that person in similarly appropriate fashion.  We're all volunteers here.  This isn't Encyclopedia Britannica.  If a writers attracts an interested editor, a fulsome article will result. Don't measure the completeness of this article, against the non-completeness of an editor you prefer, and complain about the editor who voluntarily does good work.  That's not helpful.  --Epeefleche (talk) 00:24, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

text: You can drop the stick.Epeefleche (talk) 17:20, 14 February 2013 (UTC)

text: I don't believe this article is intrinsically problematic. Is there an issue with the way it's referenced? I know a little about Ethel&bobby's editing, and believe they are in good faith. Tony (talk)  13:01, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
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