Talk:Chaim Herzog

message: Someone just sent me the pic, but the Kid in white in the photo is wearing a Sesame Street Tshirt and these did not exist in Israel before the mid 1980's. 
Hanaaat (talk) 19:14, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Chaim Herzog visiting Beit Yitzhak in 1959 pic - wrong year

message: Where was he born? I've found websites claiming him for Cork, Dublin and Belfast. Does anyone know for sure?
Seabhcan 22:48, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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message: Some Jews who entered Ireland during the war years were granted citizenship in 1946, including Rabbi David Freilich, who had been living with the Herzog family.  see .  (The dates given for entering Ireland may be unreliable)--ClemMcGann 09:55, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Ireland

message: Is this the same person as Vivian Herzog, who served as intelligence officer in the Haganah in 1948? If so, this name should be mentioned in the article.
I have changed the part which says he was born in Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland did not exist in 1918.
Chaim Herzog and Vivian Herzog were the same person (source: Dominique Lapierre's O Jerusalem) He was given both names at birth but was refered to largely as Vivian Herzog until 1956 (Ergo, still called Vivian during his Haganah days). While he was called Chaim Herzog in Israel, he continued to let himself be addressed as Vivian Herzog by people, especially English journalists
Chaim Herzog was born on the Cliftonville Road in Belfast in 1918 where his father Dr.Isaac Herzog was a Rabbi. A small plaque adorns the house in which he spent his early childhood. See http://www.ulsterhistory.co.uk/chaimherzog.htm
I remember a radio interview in the mid 1990's in which he was asked how he came to be called Vivian by many of his English speaking friends. He claimed that during basic training when he joined the British army, the Corporal asked him his name. The Corporal looked askance when he was told Chaim. Another Jewish member of the squad said that it was Hebrew and meant life, and that Vivian would be the English equivalent. At which point, the Corporal said "Well, we are not having any expletive Hebrew in this expletive army, from now on your expletive name is Vivian."76.176.15.145 (talk) 22:57, 17 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Vivian Herzog

message: The photo is far too big. Does anyone know how to resize a photo in an infobox?--Gilabrand 05:17, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just do  to get the correct size (200 being an example). Number 57 16:37, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried it, but it doesn't come out right. You see wording sticking out behind the picture.--Gilabrand 17:21, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Where did the photo go? Epson291 (talk) 10:24, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  resize photo 

message: He was born in Belfast, while it is part of the UK, is in Ireland not Britain. Added is the fact he was born prior to Partition and that his family were involved in Irish republican politics, the designation of British is especially dubious.IrishStephen (talk) 15:37, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changed lede from "British-born" to "Irish-born" 

message: The Herzog foundation - Leah Goldberg - has requested me to change a picture . its the first pic on the page of Chaim Herzog.
Thblum2004 (talk) 09:40, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: , that photo doesn't appear to be public, so we cannot see it. In order to add the photograph to this article, you can upload it at the Wikimedia Commons upload page, but the copyright owner (in this case probably Al Gilbert) must be willing to release it under a Creative Commons license.  The upload page provides more details on how that process works. —Tim Pierce (talk) 10:53, 29 May 2015 (UTC)

text: , I've updated the author information on the original image at  to fit Mr. Gilbert's request. I am concerned, however, that there has been a misunderstanding about how the Creative Commons license works. The Creative Commons Attribution license grants any user permission to copy and reuse the photograph for any purpose, as long as the author is credited for its use.  It cannot be restricted the way they have requested here ("the image is only to be used for this expressed purpose i.e. the Herzog Wikipedia page.  You do not have permission to make copies.") —Tim Pierce (talk) 21:39, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  CHANGE A PICTURE 

message: My surname is Herzog but I do not believe I am related to this Herzog family; however, I am Jewish so there might be some distant connection. If I find out I am related I will cease editing this page. -- Erika aka BrillLyle (talk) 17:31, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: That's respectable but if you have no contact with them whatsoever it's not really a conflict of interest... Synotia (moan) 11:36, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conflict of interest statement 

message: According to his Washington Post obituary, Herzog was given the name Vivan at birth and adopted Chaim later in life.
This is repeated in Rodney Carlisle's Encyclopedia of Intelligence and Counterintelligence, which says Vivan "may have taken the name" Chaim around the time of the Arab revolt.
Does anyone know if there's any truth to this? Or are these authors simply getting muddled? — Jon C.ॐ 14:23, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: At Irish Jewish Roots his record is called "HYMAN (CHAIM) (VIVIAN) HERZOG" but they want 20 euros for his full birth certificate and I'm too stingy. Perhaps it is available for free somewhere else. The Hebrew version of this page has a different version: "During his service in the British Army he was given the nickname Vivian (English version of Chaim), who accompanied him for the rest of his life." Certainly there is something to it but I'm not sure what. Other sources for him being Vivian from birth include the Jewish Telegraphic Agency and Jewish News of Northern California. Zerotalk 05:34, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

text: I looked at his autobiography "Living history", 1st edition.  On p49 he says that he was given Vivian as a nickname in the British Army in 1942-3 "and so I have remained ever since".  It would still be interesting to look at his birth certificate. Zerotalk 06:16, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

text: Now I have a copy of his birth certificate. Birthplace: 2 Norman Villas, Cliftonpark Avenue (his parents' address). Date: 17 Sep 1918. Name: Chayim. Father: Isaac Herzog, Jewish rabbi. Mother: Sarah Herzog formerly Hillman. So the many sources that say he was Vivian from birth are wrong, and there is no reason to doubt his account that he adopted it later on. Zerotalk 13:16, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Born Vivian? 

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