Talk:List of England international footballers

message: ;It has been suggested that England Caps be merged into this article or section.
I'm not convinced of a merge. there is no source for the other page, and don't want it clogging this one up until it is sourced. --Robdurbar 18:29, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger

message: I think the article should be expanded to include every player who has represented England. Any thoughts? GiantSnowman 20:12, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Very true! But surely point of an encyclopaedia is to provide as much information as possible...GiantSnowman 18:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I've just edited it for the first time, and I won't be editing it again. This page is too complicated, confusing and drawn out. The previous page which listed those with 25 caps or more was much more manageable and I was happy editing it each time. Bentley Banana (talk) 13:41, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion 

message: At long last I have completed the task of turning this list into a (rather large) table. Subject to a bit of checking & cross-checking (any help will be gratefully received), I plan to merge this with the main List of England international footballers.  --Daemonic Kangaroo 04:52, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of England international footballers (alphabetical)]] 

message: This table has all the dates in American format! They really should be translated into English. Postlebury 11:32, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A pedant writes... the date format is ISO, not American. Does the auto date formatting get affected by the transclusion limit? I thought it was only templates. Oldelpaso 20:52, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When I was creating the table, using the  template I found that there is a practical limit in WP as to how many templates can be used on a page, and this was reached after only about 95 entries (out of 1150); I put the problem up to an admin for help and he suggested using a substitution after the templates were used. This resulted in a page over 700k in size; again for less than 10% of the total entries. Goodness knows what size we would have ended up with, even if would have been possible to edit this, so I had to arrive at a compromise. If anyone can make the date-sort template work I'd be eternally grateful. --Daemonic Kangaroo 05:40, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The sorting doesn't work properly anyway so we may as well use readable dates. Catchpole (talk) 22:53, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It takes me a few minutes each time I have to add a date to realise what order the figures go in! Won't be back. Bentley Banana (talk) 13:42, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: American date of birth format

message: I think we should change the 'Opponent' column from Austria to ; this would be both easier to update and more aesthetically pleasing. Any thoughts? GiantSnowman (talk) 14:07, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Opponent' column. 

message: I was just wondering why the cut-off point for this page is 25 caps when the source that is cited gives everyone with 20+ caps.Tomaths (talk) 10:01, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Plus two of England's top ten goalscorers, Viv Woodward and Steve Bloomer, are missing from this list because they have 23 caps. — sjorford++ 13:27, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Cut-Off Point

message: This seems a bit arbitrary. Some current player have an entry (John Terry, Shaun W-P, Peter Crouch) and some don't.  Does someone here know the current selection criteria? 82.26.187.137 (talk) 23:14, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of final match 

message: In October/November 2017, there was an AfD to decide the future of the full, list of players (see  here). The result of that discussion was to merge the alphabetical,list and the list of players with 10+ caps, although there was no agreement on how this should be done. Recently, User:Ad Orientem decided that it was appropriate to redirect List of England international footballers (alphabetical) to List of England international footballers, although I don't think that his decision was correct (or, rather, it was premature) as he didn't properly take into account the discussion nor the closing admin's comments: a redirect is not the same as a merge, and has resulted in the loss of content. 
I have now created a new article, List of England international footballers (2–3 caps) and in due course will add List of England international footballers with one cap and List of England international footballers (4–9 caps). My intention is that all four articles will follow the same format, so that, as players careers progress, they can be moved seamlessly from one list to the next. As it took three weeks of my time to create the first list, it will be a while before the others are added, unless someone else wants to get involved. This approach was discussed at WP;Football.
If anyone has any comments on the first of the three new articles, please let me know.  --Daemonickangaroo2018 (talk) 14:19, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems to be clear on what needs to be done per the consensus at the WikiProject (I haven't looked into it but I think consensus is to split the (alphabetical) article into 3 articles). The (alphabetical) article doesn't need to exist anymore per the AFD closer - "there's clear consensus here that this should not remain as a stand-alone list in its current form." If it is easy as copy-pasting, I can do that. Please let me know if you need any help with creating the other 2 articles.  The editor whose username is Z0 15:20, 10 July 2018 (UTC)

text: @ no content has been lost. The entire article and its history is preserved and can be viewed here. If you want to merge more information into the target article please feel free to do so as long you show due respect for consensus and WP:V and WP:CITE. On which note, I am a bit concerned that you do not seem to grasp that a verdict of merge at AfD means that you are not going to have two stand alone articles when it is over. Further I did in fact read the close at the discussion which states this explicitly. And yet you were edit warring to preserve the article contrary to the clear consensus of the AfD. The manner in which the merge is carried out is beyond the scope of the AfD and is almost always left to the discretion of the editors who work on the two articles. If there is a disagreement about how the merge was handled, or not as the case may be, that needs to be resolved in a talk page discussion. As we currently seem to be moving in a direction that does not contradict the AfD's close I am going to move along. Best regards... -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:31, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of England international footballers (alphabetical)]] #2 

message: There are a few players that have not played a match since 2013, and i am wondering why they are classed as active squad members? Is this a mistake?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hbatey1105 (talk • contribs) 19:21, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old players still classed as current players?