Talk:Alliance Manchester Business School

message: Please update the Business School page with new information.. Abh1984 23:38, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I wonder if, perhaps, these names belong at University of Manchester and not here? — mholland 15:20, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I notice it has the sources needed template. Surely the articles should have a source that shows they studied at MBS? Billlion (talk) 23:22, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable alumni 

message: I agree it is not good to start with.
I have begun to change some of the content to reflect more accurately that MBS is a full service school, and that the MBA is only a small, but very important part of its activity. Much of what is written  previously conflates MBA and MBS, so for example rankings that apply to the MBA are given to the school. Still underrepresented here is the extensive, and highly ranked undergraduate activity, and  the outstanding research profile.
Sorry, also to add MBS is not a University, it is a department in a University, so parallels in content and structure don't apply. It is of a status to merit its own entry though, no doubt about that, cf London Business School which is considered the closest equivalent.
MaNotMba 16:45, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this about MBS or  MBS/MBA 

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message: there is some deleting/reverting going on between myself and 2hiyup2. Let me explain what I have been trying to do, and the perhaps it will make sense. Issue One. As it stands in my and 2Hiyup2 versions there is a recognition that what exists now is called the "New" Manchester Business School; that is, it is a completely new entity formed on the merger of UMIST and Victoria University of Manchester in 2005. Anything that refers to the predeccessor partners then rightly belongs in the history section. Hence my moving of the "grand old man" reference to MBS (which, btw, is sexist, and can't be justified as a contemporary usage) to the history section. I have also been trying to balance out the mentions of the "old" MBS and the other partners; so, if the establishment of MBS in the 1960s is to be mentioned then so should the Dept of Industrial Administration at UMIST in the 1920s, which is in the UMIST wikipedia entry. 
Issue 2. Elsewhere, I have been trying to balance out the dominating reference to the MBA program it runs  with what the range of what school actually does. The nature of immigration status of MBA alumni is a piece of microtrivia, for example. This is especially while the full range of taught programmes is not listed, and the attention paid to research is minimal.
There are comparator wikipedia entries which might give an idea of how an encyclopedia article for a business school might look, as something measured and thorough, rather than as a barely concealed advertorial plug - in the UK see LBS or Lancaster University Management School. Readers should know(and you get a hint of this from the UMIST entry) that there are, shall we say, contested priorities within the school about what its most important aspects are. What this entry should aim for, I would suggest, is balanced and objective representation.
80.7.186.3 12:17, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just came to the talk page to see if the issue of the foundation date of the UMIST D.I.A.  I would like to see the intro paragraph say what merged to form it and when those were founded, very much like the University of Manchester article. Then the details are in the history. See also School of Mathematics, University of Manchester which is a fairly well developed article on a School of the University. Here the history section tells the (intertwined) story of the two precursor departments.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Billlion (talk • contribs) 08:14, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this a serious page or just a plug for MBS MBA Programs 

message: Please can I request the following addition to the history section of this page? Also would it be possible to change the title to 'Alliance Manchester Business School' and update the logo to the one at the top of this  page.
On 21 September, 2015, Manchester Business School changed its name to Alliance Manchester Business School, following a transformational donation from Lord Alliance of Manchester and his fellow Trustees of the Alliance Family Foundation. The School was renamed in recognition of the generous donation and his long standing support of The University of Manchester and the business school.
The first round of Alliance Strategic Funding has been allocated to research projects including: the new Health Services Research Centre; a new Manchester Institute for Research on Work and Employment; offering advanced training opportunities to PhD students and contributing to the Northern Powerhouse debate.
Lord Alliance is one of the North West’s most successful businessmen, he founded the international textile group Coats Viyella Plc (now Coats Plc) and currently serves as Non-Executive Director of Manchester based N Brown Group, one of the UK’s leading internet and catalogue home shopping companies. 
Andy Poole Manchester (talk) 11:30, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Andy. Unfortunately, I must decline the requested edit at this time. First, your proposed edits do not meet Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy in that they have a clear bias in favor of Lord Alliance's donation. As for the name change, Wikipedia's guideline on article titles is to use whatever name is most commonly used to refer to an institution, not necessarily the official name. Since this name change was finalized barely a month ago, I'd like to see some evidence that "Alliance Manchester Business School" is more frequently used by the general public than "Manchester Business School." Altamel (talk) 05:48, 16 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit requested on September 24

message: Please can I request the following addition to the history section of this page? Also would it be possible to change the title to 'Alliance Manchester Business School' and update the logo to the one at the top of this  page.
On 21 September, 2015, Manchester Business School changed its name to Alliance Manchester Business School, following a transformational donation from Lord Alliance of Manchester and his fellow Trustees of the Alliance Family Foundation. The School was renamed in recognition of the generous donation and his long standing support of The University of Manchester and the business school.
The first round of Alliance Strategic Funding has been allocated to research projects including: the new Health Services Research Centre; a new Manchester Institute for Research on Work and Employment; offering advanced training opportunities to PhD students and contributing to the Northern Powerhouse debate.
Lord Alliance is one of the North West’s most successful businessmen, he founded the international textile group Coats Viyella Plc (now Coats Plc) and currently serves as Non-Executive Director of Manchester based N Brown Group, one of the UK’s leading internet and catalogue home shopping companies.
Andy Poole Manchester (talk) 11:15, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Duplicate request, see above. Altamel (talk) 05:48, 16 October 2015 (UTC)

text: Altamel (talk) 23:07, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  This article is about the business school, not Lord Alliance. The statement above fits the style of a press release, but is too tangential to be included in an encyclopedia article. I added a link to Wikipedia's biography on Lord Alliance in the sentence that was added, and if readers want more information on him, they can click on the link. Altamel (talk) 23:07, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

text: As for the naming issue, our policy on names reads: "If, on the other hand, a significant majority of sources written after the name change is announced continue to use the "old" name, Wikipedia should continue to do so as well." I did a Google News search and found "Manchester Business School" was much more commonly mentioned than "Alliance Manchester Business School." If you disagree with this assessment, you can seek a second opinion at Wikipedia:Requested Moves. The logo: I would not object to updating the logo. You can either use the Wikipedia:File Upload Wizard to upload the file, or ask for help at Wikipedia:Files for upload. Thanks, Altamel (talk) 23:07, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

text: Altamel (talk) 23:40, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request 

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