Talk:Syrmia County

message: : By the 13th century, two counties were formed in this region: Szerém (in the east) and Valko (in the west).
This needs to be referenced and/or integrated into Administrative divisions of the Kingdom of Hungary. --Joy [shallot] 00:01, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  13th century 

message: Syrmia (former county) → Szerém – previous moves of Hungarian counties to current names were not discussed.  Please discuss at Talk:Križevci (former county). -  AjaxSmack  17:59, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The move of the names was discussed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Administrative_divisions_of_the_Kingdom_of_Hungary#Naming_issues Since nobody opposed my proposal for move, I moved these names. These counties were part of the autonomous region Croatia-Slavonia where Croatian was official language, thus names of the counties are written in Croatian. PANONIAN (talk) 18:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: Hello there. I wonder if anyone can help me.
I have been working on updating the :File:Kingdom of Hungary counties.svg map, in particular to weed out some duplications, I fixed a couple of errors with missing accents (at least, if we are using the Hungarian names), separated out the text etc onto separate layers, put good IDs for all the elements so that, for example, the ID for the polygon for Lika-Krbava is (surprise) "Lika-Krbava", and made it a four colour map. The results are at :File:Kingdom of Hungary counties-2.svg, a more in-depth discussion is at Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Hungary. The counties etc are done in four styles, so one can change the colours just by changing the style, or of course modifying the style for an individual county to ovveride the settings.
This is all still a work in progress and I need a bit of help to get it to a stage where it could be used in articles. First, the text style is just awful, don't worry I will fix this (actually I will have four styles, one for each map colour, so that if an editor changes one of the colours to, say, be very dark, they can change the text style to be very light, for contrast). I just haven't got around to it yet.
Second, and more important, I want to get a coordinate fix so I can make it into a location map. I've made one at :Template:Location map Kingdom of Hungary but the coordinates are bollox. Naively, I stole the western and southern coordinates from :Template:Location map Croatia but Modrus-Fiume seems to have grown a bit, and Lika-Krbava is certainly not the southernmost point of modern Croatia. It may seem stupid to ask, because of course I could look these up in an old atlas, but my local central library is absolutely appalling on this (or I am looking in the wrong place). I only need the coordinates to about 1 decimal point of a degree, so if there are any towns near the western border of Modrus-Fiume or the southern border of Lika-Krbava I can just take those as a fix. I'm quite happy to fiddle to adjust the coords but it would be good to get a nice starting fix. At the top, miles away from Croatia of course, I have used mount Polica as the fix, and on the east I am just guessing cos I could not find anything on the old maps that has coordinates.
Sorry to bother you about this as it might seem that this has little to do with Croatia and a lot to do with Hungary, but I am hoping that once I have a nice standard map of the Kingdom of Hungary then it can be tweaked to be used in other articles, slowly replacing the rather boring old map (which I am also maintaining with changing the small slips in that map), and to be able to e.g. cut and paste or change the labels into other languages, if appropriate, without having to do too much hard work because they are on a separate layer. I don't really know where all this will go, whether it will be the "definitive" map that others then derive from using XSLT transformations or whatever, or whether it gets split very early just as a cut-and-paste job e.g. to highlight counties etc. Anyway, if you could help with the coordinate fix I think that would be useful to both the Croatian and Hungarian projects.
Thanks and best wishes Si Trew (talk) 09:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location map (Kingdom of Hungary) 

message: I restored the Wikiproject:Hungary listing because the article says "According to other sources, it belonged to main part of the Kingdom of Hungary, outside of the Kingdom of Croatia" in the 12th century, and at various times it was governed as part of the Kingdom of Hungary, directly or indirectly. And there were still Hungarians living there as late as 1910. And, more to the point, it is not the job of random people not involved with the Hungarian Wikiproject to go around saying which articles on the Balkans the project may be interested in helping maintain. If they aren't interested in helping or feel it is outside their area of interest, let them remove the tag. Brianyoumans (talk) 14:54, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikiproject Hungary?