Talk:Soviet ruble

message: Please discuss at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Numismatics#Peseta. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 04:06, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It sounds cumbersome, but the ruble did have 15 official names, corresponding to the 15 languages of the union republics.  Since it would be clearly unfair to pick and choose what to include in the infobox and what to leave out (who, after all, gets to say that Uzbek should be left out, but Ukrainian should be included?), I think either all 15 names or only Russian should be included. --Ericdn (talk) 15:35, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What languages to include in the infobox? 

message: The commons image dates it 1944 rather than 1924. Cyrillic? Which is the truest date? -- maxrspct ping me  22:54, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Where does it say 1944? Are you referring to :Image:Rubel 1924.png? --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 13:52, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ruble picture

message: Does anyone know where to find information on black market ruble exchange rates during the Soviet era? This might be something worthy to add to the article. Esn (talk) 00:37, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Would market raters from late Soviet era help?  The market wasn't exactly black anymore, in that it was recognised that it exists, but it wasn't exactly legal, either. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 04:34, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: During perestroika in Moscow, I was personally quoted between 25-50:1 on the low end. At the high end, some were getting up to 200:1, but that was still rare at the time. Official exchange rate was 1:2 (two USD to the ruble). - Tenebris  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.254.156.74 (talk) 14:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Black market exchange rates

message: One of the most peculiar characteristics of Soviet collapse was simultaneous inflation and shortage of cash.  In most cases, inflation happens because of severe oversupply of cash.  In case of Soviet rouble, cash was in short supply, and instead, inter-enterprise accounting roubles were oversupplied.  Only after Perestroika made these two forms of roubles mutually convertible did hyperinflation of cash roubles become possible.  Due to these unusual circumstances, it's important to clearly explain what was going on, or our reader might assume something more conventional -- such as irresponsible printing of cash, the process driving hyperinflation in Zimbabwe right now. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 04:34, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Oversupply of interenterprise accounting roubles

message: The article is entitled Ruble but in the second para the term Roubles is used. Surely we should be consistent? Headhitter (talk) 11:21, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. I also wonder what "virtual ruble" means. --illythr (talk) 21:34, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rouble or ruble? 

message: There is Finnish language in table. However, the explanation for the table is: The name of the currency in the languages of the 15 republics, in the order they appeared in the banknotes:
"in the order they appeared in the banknotes"? Sorry, but Finnish language did not appear in the banknotes. It can also be counted from the banknote in the infobox: there is 15 languages, while the has 16 languages. So Finnish should be removed from the table. I deleted it, but it was reverted. 82.141.116.89 (talk) 17:23, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Using Ctrl+F for the word "Finnish" in the article yields the following sentence: Finnish last appeared on 1947 banknotes since the Karelo-Finnish SSR was dissolved in 1956. --illythr (talk) 20:18, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: So, Finnish was at a time in the notes. However, just above the table, there reads: The name of the currency in the languages of the 15 republics, in the order they appeared in the banknotes. Would it be ok to just change "15" to "16", since there are 16 languages listed? 82.141.95.68 (talk) 05:02, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finnish language in table 

message: The article says "the currency was not internationally exchangeable" -- but then, in a seeming contradiction, it immediately gives a table of "Historical official exchange rates."  Can we conclude that these "official exchange rates" were for propaganda purposes only? Novel compound (talk) 05:33, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Ordinary ruble and kopek coins and bills as used by Soviet citizens usually had no ascertainable monetary value if taken outside the Soviet Union to Western countries, but when a Westerner entered the Soviet Union, then INTOURIST or whatever converted his Western currency to rubles at an official rate.  There were various Units of account and quasi-monetary devices used for international trade, but these were not the same as ordinary ruble and kopek coins and bills as used by Soviet citizens... AnonMoos (talk) 17:14, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official exchange rates 

message: Those coins were not circulation coins. They are .900 silver collector coins and Olympics had whole set of silver, gold and platinum coins minted. Circulation had Olympic coins in 1 ruble nomination.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.56.84.144 (talk) 17:50, 20 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two 10-ruble coins introduced in 1978 to commemorate the 1980 Summer Olympics 

message: The section on the "Fourth Soviet ruble, 7 March 1924 – 1947" has "After Joseph Stalin's consolidation of power following the death of Lenin, a final redenomination occurred which replaced all previously issued currencies. The fourth Soviet ruble was equal to 50,000 rubles of the third issue...". Stalin had not consolidated power in 1924; this occurred later in the 1920s. Mentioning Stalin as Soviet leader in this context is incorrect and misleading.
The subsequent phrase "Stalin failed to maintain the ruble's value versus the gold ruble as early as 1925..." is not just misleading but outright wrong. Stalin was not in charge in 1925, Communist factions were still contending over which would control the Communist Party and thus the Soviet government. (Other Wikipedia articles on the USSR and Stalin get this correctly.) The lack of accuracy on this point calls into question the accuracy of the rest of the article on the Soviet ruble. Johnmastell (talk) 23:31, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Previously discussed at Talk:Soviet_Union/Archive_18#Stalin_as_leader_in_1924... AnonMoos (talk) 23:16, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stalin was not leader in the mid-1920s 

message: An editor (presumably TCG) argued that "Rbl" is the sign of the Soviet ruble, citing a document at an earthquake-related conference and a book on communist countries as source. However, both times around, there is a canned search for "Rbls rouble" without quotes. Therefore, I think it might be TCG cherry-picking sources that support them. NotReallySoroka (talk) 08:50, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I have since sent this issue to Wikipedia:No original research/noticeboard#Soviet Rbl. NotReallySoroka (talk) 14:32, 30 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soviet Rbl