Talk:History of Croatia (1995–present)

message: "Rebelled Serbs blocked the roads to the tourist destinations in Dalmatia in the event known as the "Log revolution". The Croatian government sent special police forces to intervene, but helicopters carrying them were forced to land by fighter jets of the Yugoslav People's Army (JNA), openly siding with terrorists."
How does blocking roads equal terrorism? It doesn't. This passage is quite anti-Serbian for no reason. -Blackhand
:I don't think that this statement necessarily equates Serb rebels with terrorists.
Previous statement is overly defensive. Look at this perspective. Imagine you are a 10 year old child driving in a car with your parents just before easter weekend in 1990 through Plitivce lakes area. You look outside window and see a car full of men with ammo belts around their shoulders and automatic rifles in their hands. No uniform on them. Then a few minutes later after they passed around your parents car in such a manner to almost cause your car to slid off the road, you see the same men on the side of the road ( in front of some local building) SHOOTING with their weapons for 20 seconds into the Croatian flag on the mast and later burning the flag on the ground. All this was not done on the war front - it was done while civilian traffic was going on just 10 meters away from it. This happened at equal times as road blockings I believe. So how should we call these people - 'peaceful protesters for Free Krajina'? I doubt it. When seeing this incidents I felt fear and shooting at the Croatian flag made me felt terrorised and scared for my life.
Armed civilians shooting out of illegaly owned automatic weapons into a country flag publicly diplaying hatret against this country are terorrists beacuse they are seeding fear and terror at anybody who is not sharing their belief.
Point taken. However, the above passage makes no mention of these events; if we are going to label the Serb rebels as terrorists, some mention should be made to their terrorist activities. --Mihovil 01:02, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Anti-Serbian

message: Some mention of the fate of Serbs in Krajina must be made.
: Go ahead and add such information, so long as you keep the information neutral point of view.  -- Zoe
:: I've added some up to date information on the refugees. --Shallot 09:02, 27 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Serbs in Krajina

message: I removed some text which belonged on the talk page.  
"(<- the preceeding information, provided by a user with dubious sympathies, is false. Brendan O'Shea estimates Serbian losses in the battle for Vukovar to be ~2,000, with a similar number of Croatian dead. The AFV/air craft losses reported here are, simply speaking, ludicrous. Please be so kind as to provide your sources for the Serbian estimates of casualties, which have never been made official, but were never over 1,750 dead in military circles. Nationalist propaganda has no place on Wikipedia. Shame on you, whoever you are.)"
kmccoy (talk) 01:46, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed text 

message: This article has some extremely POV parts.  I give you  the pan-Serbian rampage across Yugoslavia as an example.  If I get a chance, I'll come in here and try to clean some of it up.--Deville (Talk) 00:12, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, there was a pan-Serbian rampage across Yugoslavia. Before you change anything, please obtain information about the topic. --Zmaj 00:16, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not only that they are extremly POV in that sentence , but on many parts. Look again at that passus:
"The role of the international community in the war would become a matter of much controversy. The general UN policy of imposing a weapons trade embargo for all former Yugoslav republics was not neutral, placing the seceding republics in an inferior position because they had no control over the existing Yugoslav weapons, which were by and large controlled by the Serbs. Such a silent encouragement of the pan-Serbian rampage across Yugoslavia was recognized as untenable by the Western nations, but only after it was already too late."  
1.UN policy always to  impose weapon trade embargo in all conflict regions.
2. Serbia got overall trade sanctions
So we easily see that part biased.--Medule 01:17, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Medule, stop vandalizing this page. --  Boris Malagurski ₪ 01:23, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: History of modern Croatia makes very little sense as a title for this article. The "modern" history of Croatia would probably include most of the country's 20th century history (and probably even extend into the 19th century) and certainly not just be limited to the 1990s, at least according to most uses of the term "modern history". And the term "modern Croatia" does not make much sense either to be honest - when exactly did Croatia become "modern". I would suggest either "Recent history of Croatia" or "History of Croatia (post-Yugoslavia) or (post-1990).
--84.153.60.142 23:58, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is an article called History of Germany since 1945, it looks like a good idea to me. I suggest to call this one "History of Croatia since 1990". What do you think? --Zmaj 07:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, it seems totally neutral to me, so I'll change it. We'll see how it works. --Zmaj 10:07, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I was bold and moved it to 1995. We have a separate article about the war, and this article starts in 1996, anyway. For that matter, maybe we should move it to History of Croatia since 1996? --Dijxtra 15:16, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article needs a name change! from "History of modern Croatia" 

message: This article needs to be merged to History of Croatia because there is no need for a separate article. The important events are addressed in their own articles and this is just a reveiw. If no objections, I will merge it in a couple of days. --Tone 22:31, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, this is not true, the post-war period really isn't addressed as such anywhere. This is now needlessly stuffed at the end of History of Croatia... --Joy [shallot] (talk) 15:15, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Unmerged. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 08:18, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
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