Talk:Khaled Abu Toameh

message: The institute mentioned in the intro is named wrongly, it is Gatestone Institute, not Stonegate. Can someone correct, please?
See: http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/author/Khaled+Abu+Toameh  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.5.133.162 (talk) 18:56, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Error in Intro

message: Im deleting the word "Israel" after Jerusalem. According to the UN website, the status of Jerusalem is still in dispute, over which nation can claim it.
66.42.111.200 23:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
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message: it's obvious that your are trying to create the false impression that Khaled Abu Toameh is pro-Israel just because Jewish organizations invite him to speak on university campuses and at conferences. By the way, there's nothing wrong with being pro-Isreal, but you are trying to make him appear as if he's affiliated with these organizations. Why aren't you mentioning that Abu Toameh's talks on university campuses have also been sponsored and paid for by various departments of universities in the US and Canada and not only by Hasbarah Fellowships and StandWithUs?
so it says that Hasbarah Fellowships "brought" Khaled Abu Toameh. Does that mean that he's affiliated with Hasbarah Fellowships, as you continue to insist? stop trying to mislead wikepedia readers please. Thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Abujamil (talk • contribs) 
::Have to agree with Abujamil to some extent. Just because someone is listed on someone's speaker's bureau (StandWithUs) does not necessarily mean they are "affiliated" in any particular way except as part of their stable of speakers.  It does tend to imply that their ideas are not in opposition to each other.  Mitchell Bard, for example, is another one of their speakers, yet it is not appropriate to refer to him as "affiliated", so as to give the impression that he is working for them.  I am sure that Toameh is not working for them but for himself.  Stellarkid (talk) 05:34, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Your comment does not speak to the text that was added in any way. The references provided indicate he was a hired speaker of StandWithUs and that's the wording I used. No problem there. Tiamuttalk 17:34, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: He's been a speaker at dozens of venues - this particular one has no special significance. Down In The Air (talk) 17:38, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If someone gets significant coverage for doing speaking venues, wherever they may be and whoever they are sponsored by, its relevant to include that information in the person's wikipedia entry. It provides information on what they do and who they do it for. Please restore the information you deleted. Tiamuttalk 18:15, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: a 1 sentence mentioning he was a keynote speaker is not "significant coverage". It is trivial mention. What he does is already described, in detial - he is a journalist. Down In The Air (talk) 22:48, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: It's not clear why tiamut insists or claims that SWU or Hasbarah Fellowships paid Abu Toameh to speak. They may have helped sponser or organize his speaking events, but that does not mean that he's been "hired" by them or that he received any payment. You should be careful about the facts. Moreover, the attempt to depict Abu Toameh as being "affiliated" with any group does him injustice. What evidence do you have that he's "affiliated" with these groups? Abu Toameh has been invited by dozens of groups tp speak in various parts of the world, including some that are pro-Israel. But this does not mean that he works for them. He is known as an independent journalist who has not hesitated to criticize Israel in public, especially with regards to its treatment of its Arab minority. Wikepdia should not be be publishing false material and jiving with the facts..thank you - abu jamil
:The sources I provided for the text I added state clearly that Abu Tomeh's talks have been subsidized and co-sponsored by Hasbara Fellowships and thathe was a hired speaker for StandWithUs. I'm sorry that you find this information offensive, but its covered by multiple reliable sources and is therefore relevant to this man's Wikipedia entry. The fact that you want to bury this information, and are constantly deleting it (along with the a slew of other anonymous and new accounts all appearing around the same time to do the same thing) is of greater concern than my wanting to add it to the article. Tiamuttalk 18:18, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Right-- I came to this rather late but I have made changes remarked by abu jamil because I think he is correct. We do not know Mr Toamah's "affiliation" or whether he was paid for a particular speech and who paid him.   I have changed the wording to read: "Abu Toameh was listed as part of the speakers bureau for the Hasbara Fellowships, who have brought him to more than a dozen talks at various university campuses.[9][10][11] He has also been a speaker for the pro-Israel organization StandWithUs,[12][13] and spoke at their annual conference in Los Angeles in 2008.[14]
I  have left the pro-Israel description of StandWithUs, for now, but not the "hired" part, which is unnecessary.  @ Abu Jamil -- could you please improve the article by adding some further information about some other groups that Mr Toamah has spoken to or for? If you put evidence of them on this page and they come from a RS I will add them to the page if you chose not to.  I think it improved by my changes. Stellarkid (talk) 03:31, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not a WP:RS.  Will have to investigate further.  Stellarkid (talk) 17:16, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Blogs are not RS generally.  Unless the author is considered highly notable.  I did find a reference for this and added it.  Now if I could just find a reference for those awards, we would be all set.  I have not had any luck in that regard!  Can you help?  ps please don't for get to sign your posts with teh 4 tildes.  Thanks, Stellarkid (talk) 17:45, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  what evidence do you have that Toameh is a "hired" speaker" or that Hasbarah paid him $$ ?? 

message: I wonder what Tiamut's agenda is?
:I'm here to write an encyclopedia that brings together information from reliable sources about the various subjects it covers. You? Tiamuttalk 13:24, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tiamut constantly trying to discredit Toameh as a journalist by making it seem as if he's |affilaited" with "pro-Israel" groups just because they invited him to lecture. 

message: spelling correction. - "affiliated"
also, it's Not CANADIAN House of Commons. It's BRITISH..
just in case Tiamut you don't know where the House of Commons is.
:If you actually read the article House of Commons, you would see that there is more than one (including one in Canada). After reading your note and reviewing the link provided for the information included, I corrected myself, removing "Canada" and wikilinking to House of Commons of the United Kingdom. Thank you for your comments and have a nice day. Tiamuttalk 13:26, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tiamut constantly trying to discredit Toameh as a journalist by making it seem as if he's "affiliated" with "pro-Israel" groups just because they invited him to lecture. 

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