Talk:NASCAR Rookie of the Year

message: I just want everyone to know that as soon as the season is over, I will take up the duty of updating the history accordingly to the 2005 results. Now my question is, what will go in for the "Current Contendors" section until after the season starts? I have two ideas so far?
*A list of all the confirmed contendors for ROTY in all three series.
*A list of potential contendors with a short sentence explaining why or why not they may not go for it this year.
Any other suggestions? --D-Day 21:27, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: My vote goes to option C: removal of said section until the silly season is over. The wikipedia is supposed to be fact, not speculation, but eh, look at 2006 Formula One Season to counteract that, so I dunno... -slowpokeiv 00:17, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm a little confused Slowpoke. Did you want the article closed until 2006? Or just the potential contendors section?--D-Day 11:03, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, No, just the section. The ROTY article with or without the Contendors section has merit to stand on its own, and the Contendors section has merit to stand during the season, not debating these points. I just don't know if the Contendors section has enough merit during the off/silly season. Sorry for the confusion. -slowpokeiv 23:22, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I see now. My reasoning for putting up the ROY contendors in the offseason is that there is three confirmed contendors in Nextel Cup.(Reed Sorenson, Martin Truex, David Stremme) But I do see your point as I am not aware of the contendors in Busch or Trucks.--D-Day 10:10, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  2006 Update 

message: I recently had a brain storm about containing a summary of each season's Rookie of the Year race being placed in an article somewhere. The question is would it go here, or in a season summary.(i.e. 2004 in NASCAR for example) My vote would go to the latter, for space reasons and it having more relevance to the topic. I just wanted some input though. --D-Day 14:54, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  ROTY Summaries 

message: I know that on the main page it says that drivers that haven't run more than 7 races in a previous season are elligible, but what about drivers that attempted to qualify for more than 7 races, but only made seven or less? --Casey14 31 October 2005
:That doesn't count. The driver has to start more than seven races in order to lose their eligbility. For example, last year Kyle Busch had six NEXTEL Cup starts, but I believe he missed a couple. But he's still eligible to win the award this year. Hope this helps. --D-Day 21:57, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank's for clearing that up. I will be deleting Frank Kimmel from the list since he only ran 6 races in 2002, and he never announced himself to be a rookie. Casey14 19:03, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eligibility?? 

message: We need to verify whether the rookie points system (and end-of-season evaluation) used in Nextel Cup is also used in Busch, trucks, Modifieds, Busch East, etc.  I was able to clarify whether some parts of the article applied to just Cup or other NASCAR series, but I'm not sure about this item.  Barno 00:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  same scoring system for Busch etc? 

message: I came across this while doing the list of NASCAR driver pages, and it seems that Boris ran 9 races that year, which would qualify as his unofficial rookie year, since he is no longer elligible.  Casey14 18:44, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, did I just completely look over that.  It seems his name was on the list.  Casey14 20:55, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Boris Said Rookie in 2005?

message: I don't know how legitimate this is, but from his very inactive message board: 
"Brandon Whitt To Run For Rookie of Year
CJM Racing is supplying a car for Brandon Whitt to compete in the 2007 NEXTEL Cup Series. Whitt has been selected to drive the #72 Chevrolet with tentative sponsorship from Dutch Quality Stone. The former Craftsman Truck Series driver made his Cup debut with the #72 in November at Phoenix. He failed to make the field in the series finale at Homestead. Whitt finished in the top 20 in the 2004 and 2005 Craftsman Truck Series point standings. He will be running for the NASCAR Nextel Cup Rookie of the Year honors as well."
Casey14 23:15, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Brandon Whitt in 2007

message: These two drivers should be removed from the rookie of the year candidate list, since as of Darlington they had not declared they were running for rookie of the year.  They should be stated under that they are rookies, but not running for the rookie of the year award. Casey14 00:11, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Jon Wood and Regan Smith

message: According to Whitt's official website, he drove the #72 CJM Racing car this year.  However the team left NEXTEL Cup to focus on the Busch Series.  I don't understand why his number keeps getting changed to (#??) every time I change it to #72. WildFan48 02:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's kinda obvious.  The team released him, and has moved to the Busch Series with Jason Keller.  Whitt's site hasn't been updated yet. Casey14 03:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

text: That's the way we've done it in the past when a rookie is released from his team. It takes up less space, and is helpful in case the driver returns to the series in a different ride. --D-Day 10:53, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That can be found on his driver page, and if it isn't there the page needs updating.  Casey14 20:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Brandon Whitt #72

message: Just wanted to state that #15 DEI team isn't full time, and needs to be removed.  I wanted to run this accross before I remove it. Casey14 03:32, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Gosh this shows I'm a scatter brain.  This is directed towards the list of NASCAR teams page. Casey14 03:34, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Busch Series and DEI

message: I believe both of these have either declined from continuing rookie of the year or have been taken out by NASCAR.  They are no longer on NASCAR's lists, even when Fike would still be leading.  They should be taken off the list here and noted below as have attempted rookie of the year, but ended their run.  Casey14 23:32, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Aaron Fike and Tyler Walker

message: Specifically, the "‡" symbol. As its definition makes no sense to me, given that most drivers who meet the definition given for it aren't tagged. It appears to mean "didn't run a full season but achieved eligibility" - which should just be "no symbol", I think. Comments? - The Bushranger One ping only 23:07, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this symbol needed? 

message: There used to be on this page a separate symbol (†) for drivers who did not declare for Rookie of the Year, but ran in too many races to be eligible for the award in the future. Those drivers aren't listed anymore - would there be any objection if I went back and re-added them? I think this is useful information for someone who might be coming here to find out what year that, say, Brad Keselowski or Carl Edwards ran for Rookie of the Year. Without this information, those two just aren't listed. V35322 (talk) 05:33, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drivers who ran in too many races to be eligible