Talk:Invincible (character)

message: :"In issue one, Art the tailor tells Mark that he initially worked on a suit for Nolan under the impression that his power (and Mark's by extension) was solar based. Nolan tells him "it's a common mistake". This is a reference to Superman, whose power comes from the yellow sun of our solar system and who Omni-Man and Invincible share many characteristics with."
I'm pretty damn sure this is wrong. to begin with, it's original research to make such an inference. Secondly 'Invincible Ultimate Collection Vol. 1' shows early invincible concept images that appear very much like the solar suit, and comments claim that originally a solar energy absorption explanation was going to be used for Mark's powers, but instead, they decided to not explain his powers because 'where's the fun in that'.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.219.254 (talk) 02:34, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, the point that it's original research is correct, and thus this piece of trivia ought to be removed. However, I think it is pretty clearly a Superman joke, and I find it funny that people haven't realised this. Anyway, that doesn't matter -- it should be removed on OR grounds. 203.45.146.36 (talk) 06:44, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia issues

message: Just a suggestion, but this entry seems to need to decide whether it's about the comic book Invincible or about the character Invincible.  Granted they're related but the jumping back and forth between them makes for a sloppy read.  Psyphics 16:18, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd lean towards the character myself, in the same way that Superman is used. After all, it is quite possible that this character may appear in another comic at some point. I don't really know much more about the subject to say more, however. Turnstep 17:13, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There are two wikis for Superman: Superman for the character and Superman (comic book) for the series. Dyslexic agnostic 20:05, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: cleaning up

message: Complete blow-by-blow retelling of a series belongs on Wikia fan-site, not WP. Someone who knows this series, please look at a few good articles in Portal:Comics and try to match a more concise & appropriate style. - Frankie1969 (talk) 19:32, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Cut the Synopsis by at least 90%

message: It says that Mark's first appearance isn't in Invincible.  Is this first appearance required reading to understand Invincible?
::Mark's 1st appearance is not required reading to understand Invincible.Scarlettspiderg 17:41, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Required Reading? 

message: We don't ACTUALLY know if he's going to be a villain or not--should we consider changing which section he's in?
I think it is a bit ambiguous on whether he should even be considered a villain at all, seeing as he was being mind-controlled by the Sequids. However, it probably be best to list him as a villain.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnJnozz512 (talk • contribs) 03:27, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rus Livingston 

message: If there are no objections I'm going to remove the plot details from the trade paperback section. This section has become overly long and plot details really belong in the synopsis section.
Iron Ghost 12:53, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trade paperbacks 

message: Any objections to adding a powers and abilities section to this page - like most of the other superhero pages?
*It's already covered in the superhero box. Iron Ghost 18:43, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Powers and Abilites 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Invincible01.jpg

message: In Invincible not only does the Superman pastiche murder the Justice League pastiche, but a fistfight between father and son causes thousands of bystander deaths. It's solidly Iron Age.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DavidJohns (talk • contribs) 00:37, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Gold and Silver Age?

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message: In the Lead section, the second sentence states, "the character first appeared in Tech Jacket #1."
In the Continuity section, however, it says, "Invincible, along with Firebreather and other new Image superhero characters, debuted in an issue of The Savage Dragon.."
Which is it? Can someone fix this? Nightscream (talk) 23:42, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It is TechJacket #1. The author of the other part probably meant that the Savage Dragon appearance was Invincibles debut in the main Image continuity. IchiGhost (talk) 12:32, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Where does Invincible appear in TechJacket #1? I already read it multiple times and there's no Invincible in it at all. Sadly there's no Online Comic of it available on the Image Page, so you can't show it, but you could probably name the page number for me to check again. MasterPhW (talk) 23:37, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Invincible appeared as a preview in Tech Jacket #1. It can be seen in the last few pages of Tech Jacket #1. There are many Invincible previews but Tech Jacket #1 was the first to preview Invincible.
Tech Jacket #1 was released the first week of November in 2002. Savage Dragon #102 was released the same week as Noble Causes #3. So Tech Jacket #1 came out before Noble Causes #3 and Savage Dragon #102.
Here are the actual dates of the previews in question with the diamond link:
Tech-Jacket #1 came out 11/20/02
http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping/archive/2002/112002.txt
FSNC #3 and Savage Dragon #102 came out 12/04/02
http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping/archive/2002/120402.txt
MoTU #1 came out 12/11/02
http://www.diamondcomics.com/shipping/archive/2002/121102.txt
So if you count previews as 1st appearances TJ #1 would be the 1st app. It beats SD #102 by 1 week, and MoTU #1 by 2 weeks.
FSNC #3 is definitely just a cameo, since he's only in 1 small panel which is a headshot. He has another headshot on one of the 2 covers. Plus, he appears in the wrong colors for his costume, as it was changed before Invincible #1 came out.
1st FULL appearance (not counting Previews) is Invincible #1.
INTERVIEW WITH ROBERT KIRKMAN
Also, here is the part of the interview with Robert Kirkman (creator of Invincible) about this topic. Direct link below as well.
WIZARD: You know, technically, Invincible first appeared in Noble Causes: Family Secrets #3.
KIRKMAN: Technically, I guess.
WIZARD: How does that work? What's the secret origin of Invincible?
KIRKMAN: Well, the book was very much in production long before that issue of Noble Causes was done. I think the first issue was completely done. Just as a fun thing, Jay had a story going on in Noble Causes about Rusty Noble trying to find out who was the father of his sister's baby. It was just a little one panel gag where Rusty went out and was asking everyone in the Image universe if they got Zephyr pregnant. It's really just a one panel gag of Invincible saying, "Nope. Wasn't me." It technically shipped before the first issue. I will say that first five pages of Invincible #1 was printed in the back of Tech-Jacket #1, which shipped before Noble Causes. So if you want to count that…
WIZARD: Then that should be the first his first appearance. I mean, the Ninja Turtles first appeared on the back cover of a comic in an ad, and now that issue is worth a grand.
KIRKMAN: Wow. I didn't know that. Then, yeah! Tech-Jacket #1!
Original interview link (not working anymore): http://www.wizarduniverse.com/060308imagespotlight.html
Source:
http://boards.collectors-society.com/ubbthreads.php?ubb=showflat&Number=3395997&fpart=2  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Markefrody (talk • contribs) 10:43, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: First appearance

message: I don't read Invincible, but the character bio/synopsis section looks *extremely* bloated, although it's trying to pack in every event in the comics rather than just important events. I'd suggest this is cut down dramatically, as it's simply extremely hard to read as is. If nothing else, perhaps split it into subsections based on different plot arcs etc. Further, If this article is going to be about both the character and the comic, then I'd suggest breaking the Character Bio and Synopsis sections apart, as this will make the article easier to read, and make it easier to handle if the article is eventually split into separate character/comic articles.  Aawood (talk) 07:23, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character Bio/Synopsis section too long? 

message: I am not too familiar with the Invincible series, but I felt that the summary is too descriptive and contains too many unnecessary details and information. Although it probably took quite a bit of effort to write down the entire plot in details, it is difficult for the reader to understand a general plot summary. Also, remove any sub plots and background stories of any minor characters along with any excess details of the story. 
As for the character biography, I felt that it was too long and covered more on minor characters that do not really contribute much to the main plot. I would suggest that some of the characters, specifically minor ones, be removed from the character biography section of the article. Also, it would perhaps be beneficial to create a new article on the synopsis of all the characters involved in the story.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnJnozz512 (talk • contribs) 03:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summary and character biography too long 

message: As someone unfamiliar with the subject, my first thought when looking at this page was, which character in the image is "Invincible"? It took a little bit of reading to form a guess as to which it was, and even then it was just a guess until I scrolled down to the other image at the bottom of the page.
As this page seems to be centered on the character and not the comic itself, it seems like the image should more clearly represent the character.  One Alternate (talk) 14:54, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ambiguous Article Image?

message: Invincible is a comic that is bursting with pop-culture references and with 4th wall breaks.
So I was thinking of listing them and publishing them here.
However, since I would be taking them straight from the comics, would my list stay online or be removed for being OR? Or would I need to source all the references to online sources?
Robin.lemstra (talk) 18:41, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It'd be OR and it'd be trivia. Make a fan site. -Jason A. Quest (talk) 21:11, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The references 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

message: I suggest the lead article image be changed to one that shows the original black/blue/yellow costume that the character wore for the majority of the series. It's much more representative of the character's publication history and appearances in other media such as the stop motion series and the new Amazon TV series. I suggest a fair use version of this image.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alparrott (talk • contribs) 22:25, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead Article Image 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
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* :Invincible (comics) → 
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– Per WP:NCCDAB, "articles primarily about characters appearing in a comic should use the phrase (character). Articles primarily about a publication should use the phrase (comics)." This also helps to clarify the distinction between these two articles, one on a superhero called "Invincible", and his featured comic. Natg 19 (talk) 23:16, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: to fix this malformed move request (the current title was a redirect, and redirects cannot be current titles in move requests), the premature page move has been reverted at least until this request has been closed. P.I. Ellsworth  ed. put'r there 21:05, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 12 May 2021