Talk:Four Loko

message: This article was nominated twice for deletion, and the results of both discussions was KEEP.  I would like to third the keep conclusion due to the fact that it is the only readily available beverage other than absinthe containing wormwood oil, southern wormwood or otherwise.  It is probably inappropriate to mention that it produces an unusual effect compared to other alcoholic beverages, but alas I will anyhow.  It isn't well known or popular but I believe it should have an entry in Wikipedia. Ducttapeandzipties (talk) 01:54, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments 

message: Editors should note that edits by Josiefour should be monitored due to a potential conflict of interest. DBishop1984 19:59, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Josiefour and COI editing

message: I've cleaned up the reactions section, as day-by-day news will get very long and cluttered very quickly.  Looking for more references, but I've found one for Penn State. DBishop1984 15:45, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Add references for Brandeis U and the state of Oklahoma. DBishop1984 15:59, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Reactions

message: The Controversy section begins with "Several years ago".  Can someone stick a more precise date in its place.  Several year ago from when? From 2010? From 2000? How long ago is "several" (3, 10, 50)? The current phrase is too ambiguous and is not encyclopædic, anyway. — al-Shimoni (talk) 00:57, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy - Several year ago... 

message: The Drew Carey Show was a show that aired from 1995 to 2004 which revolved around the life and friends of the character Drew Carey between his regular office job and his home brewery of Buzz Beer (a mixture of beer and coffee). His "Buzz Beer" was one of the central memes of the show. Is this the first popular instance (even if a fictional depiction) of a caffeinated beer? If so, it may be worth a footnote mention in the article. — al-Shimoni (talk) 01:10, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drew Carey Show and Buzz Beer 

message: Is the drink called Four or Four Loko? It's confusing because in the article the template says Four Loko but the page is named Four. Devourer09 (t·c) 04:45, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Four is the general name. It's sold in two varieties: Four Loko and Four MaXed. Wahrmund (talk) 17:49, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Four vs Four Loko 

message: I just removed an external ref to a blog promoting Four Loko. It had been put up by a red-inked user named ThankYouFourLoko
04:22, 17 November 2010 ThankYouFourLoko (talk | contribs) (14,680 bytes) (→External links) (undo) 
Someone else to keep an eye on. 
64.142.90.33 (talk) 09:17, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: More COI edits

message: Please re-add the links to websites The Loko List and Four Loko Stories under the Controversy Section and/or under the External Links sections.
What these sites represent is a distinct cultural following of the topic at hand.  They are cited in various web articleshttp://www.press-citizen.com/article/20101108/NEWS01/11080313/-Blackout-in-a-can-worries-officials-nationwidehttp://www.nrcnext.nl/blog/2010/11/17/geen-cafeine-meer-in-four-loko/ and are used as examples of the controversial side effects of Four Loko.  I believe their addition helps maintain the goal of a neutral point of view by shedding a light on the user side of the product.
Wikipedia is a place to obtain information, so why should these external links be removed as spam when this controversial and current topic has such high attention across the globe and people are seeking further sources of reading in relation to the controversy that has caused its high attention.  
These links are relevant and useful, not spam.
Thank you for your attention.
24.218.58.38 (talk) 02:07, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 24.218.58.38, 19 November 2010 

message: Someone cited an FDA article as FDA having sent warnings to 14 companies. I read the referenced article and it says four companies, so the four companies' name are now listed and the claim of 14 is removed. Phusion's press release concerning voluntary removal was on 11/16/2010, so the claim that the removal was a reaction to 11/17/2010 warning letter is incorrect.  
I replaced two redundant pictures with one picture that shows the entire product line.  I also removed a link to anti Four Loko blog just as others have been removing pro Four Loko blogs for neutrality concern.  Cantaloupe2 (talk) 04:49, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Tidied up and corrected obvious errors 

message: Is it just me, or has this "brand" simply sprung up out of the wood word soon-after/during the whole FDA intervening...?  The "old cans" made no mention of this "brand" anywhere, NOR did the "drinkfour.com" website......now, nearly all links on "drinkfour.com" point to this "external" site, Phusion Brands, LLC.....who may possibly be trying to play "superman" to an extent?  Just seems odd, almost as if "Drink Four Brewing Company" went out of the picture once the FDA intervened.....did "Drink Four Brewing Company" sell their assets to Phusion Projects, LLC?  Now, their (phusion projects....) website states they've been around since 2005 - BUT, I have never heard of this brand and I've been drinking the "Drink Four Brewing Company" products for 2+ years....another thing I noticed, there seems to be different information everywhere I look on this/these "brands" Drink Four Brewing Company is in La Crosse, WI....Phusion Projects, Inc. portfolio at manta states Chicago, IL.  No location is mentioned on their website though.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.204.253.120 (talk) 03:39, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phusion Projects, LLC...? 

message: My name is Elizabeth and I work for Phusion Projects, LLC, and we produce the product Four Loko. I am new to Wikipedia, but I understand and respect the rules of maintain NPOV. Additionally, I recognize that since I work for Phusion Projects I have a clear conflict of interest and will utilize the talk pages to discuss comments regarding the page. My aim for participating is not to transform the article into a glowing review, but to transparently assist with any information requests or address factual clarifications that might help continue to evolve the article so that it provides a thorough overview of the company that reflects general consensus.
With that said, the first edit we want to make is an important one for us with the title of the page. Four Loko is no longer an energy drink. We no longer use caffeinated ingredients in our products. Below I have pasted two news sources, as well as a link to our website that confirms this change to our formula:
http://www.wdtv.com/index.php/home/local-news/5310-four-loko-makes-a-comeback-on-the-shelves
http://www.kristv.com/news/tabc-approves-reformulated-four-loko-drink/
http://www.phusionprojects.com/media_reformulationupdate.html
Thank you for reading, and we’re happy to respond and clarify any questions. To summarize: we request changing the title so that Four Loko is no longer listed as an energy drink on Wikipedia, consistent with our reformulated product. 
Phusionprojects (talk) 21:54, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested edit from Four Loko. 

message: The Four Loko website has no "contact us" link.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.194.148.89 (talk) 14:44, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Website 

message: Can someone please make a clarification between the alcohol content?
%ABV and %proof are not the same thing, and in the article the infobox states this in proof(US), while the article reports it in %ABV (under the product line section).
Akme777 (talk) 09:08, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  ABV and Proof 

message: In the introduction, the article states 'Four branded products have been the object ...' and in the Product line section, 'There are two product lines within the Four brand:
    Four Loko — contains either 6%, 7%, 8%, 12% or 14% alcohol by volume (ABV), depending on state regulations, and is packaged in 23.5 oz. (695 mL) cans' which only contains the single product line above.
Could this be cleaned up by someone with knowledge of the product.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.159.118.182 (talk) 23:01, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of branded product inconsistencies 

message: I’m not sure if this portion should be deleted or not, but I googled today 3/30/18 and found no reference to the 2013 release in Puerto Rico. MissTofATX (talk) 06:33, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  No reference for Puerto Rico release 2013