Talk:Frappuccino

message: Other coffee shops such as Seattle's best do make Fraps! Be careful when it comes to this!!!! This is very important because are we talking about the Starbucks coffee or are we talking about Fraps in general? It makes a HUGE difference. Alliereborn (talk) 04:56, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Frappuccino is a specific trademarked name originally owned by the Coffee Connection that comes from combining the New England term for a thick milkshake with cappuccino. Though this is primarily an article about the trademarked drink from Starbucks, there should be a reference to other drinks offered by competitors in response to Frappuccino and often colloquially referred to as frappuccinos (sometimes even listed that way on the menu).  For other uses of Frappe see its disambiguation page.--Bruce Hall (talk) 02:44, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not just a Starbucks product 

message: © doesn't belong in the article name. It's not even correct, as Frappuccino is a Trade Mark (™) not a copyrighted work. --Dystopos 00:54, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved the article back to Frappuccino by your reasoning. Kusma (討論) 01:22, 19 December 2005 (UTC)

text: To be precise, it's a Registered Trade Mark (®). --Purplezart 07:15, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I disagree with the proposed move.  The two pages are quite long enough already (although they both need work).  This content would be very out of place on the starbucks page, given that the starbucks page does not even discuss the contents (beyond sizes) of their regular espresso drinks.  -The Gomm 03:53, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the beverages available at Starbucks are not unique or trade-marked; Frappucinos are. Furthermore, I believe that most of the information on this Frappucino article is far too in-depth, and needs to be edited down anyway. --Purplezart 06:33, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll second this.  The article reads like a menu... GChriss <always listening><c> 06:21, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed Move 

message: I posted an external link to a frappuccino recipe.  It's been removed from both locations I posted it, marked as spam.  Is there a way I could post it and it not be considered spam?  I get so many searches for this recipe (coming to my site), I thought it would be beneficial to post it.  Would rewriting it to be more article-style be better?  It's not my intention to spam. -  Madaise 02:35, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was the person who removed this link. The problem with it is that the article is specifically about the Starbucks trademarked product. If the link somehow contributed to knowledge about that subject, then I think it would be ok. Maybe if it were the exact recipe used by Starbucks, that would be ok too. But that's not what it is. It's not feasible to have every possible related topic linked here. Ultimately that's what Google is for. ScottW 14:27, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you think that recipes for 'frappuccino-like' drinks do not belong on this page, where would you suggest they go? I would argue that it is a unique beverage and any recipes which produce a similar beverage could be referenced on this page. --Ozziegt (talk) 00:45, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  frappuccino recipe 

message: They still sell these drinks in the UK.  Perhaps mention of this can be made. Don't know what the situation is like in the rest of the world but Starbucks here in Manchester still do Tropical Citrus Frappuccinos which I believe contain the Tazo Tea.  Last summer they did a variation using fresh Mango too.
:Maybe if you can get more info about these? Are they still similar to the old receipe or is it a modified version similar to some other companies make? (ie: Panera Bread, etc). Also what flavors are they currently available in right now? When gonig to the [Starbucks UK] site, and found the nutrition guide, all it mentioned was:
:FRAPPUCCINO® BLENDED TEA
:RASPBERRY TEA
:TROPICAL CITRUS TEA
:Nothing clear about if these are still using Tazo nor if they are just tea blended with ice (like a "Slushie" type of drink, anyone else have anymore info?) ZyphBear 17:32, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Excuse me, "Blended Juice", I believe your refering to "Juice Blends". Starbucks has to complicate drink orders even further. Blended coffee, blended crème, juice blends? Why, Starbucks? Why?-- jmatt1122  CVU (Talk)  17:14, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tazo Tea Frappuccinos 

message: Since this article has been revised, it has lost its former NPOV. Parts of it read as though written by someone disgusted by the company and parts by someone enamored of the company. Addtionally, there are currently anachronistic strings, such as CBB mentioned with the Tazo Berry and Tazo Citrus.@KaibabTALK 03:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would ask to clarify where the NPOV you are referencing from when the article was expanded.ZyphBear 10:47, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The history section seems particularly like a POV rant. Unless reliable sources can be added, I think this entire section should go. --MichaelZimmer (talk) 17:28, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: I saw Large Bottled Starbucks Frappuccinos for sale at a 24-hour gas/fastfood/truckstop near Youngstown, Ohio on Tuesday 25JUL2006.  Off of I-80 (maybe Exit 223).
The bottle was about 15 or 16 oz., as best as I can recall (regretably, I did not buy it).
I presume that the large bottle is being test marketed in Ohio or that part of Ohio.
Anybody with any info on this Large-sized Bottled Frappuccino, and if and when it will be marketed nationwide - please post.
Thanx.
72.82.164.29 04:38, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is quite some time after this was originally discussed, but the large bottles have been available for at least some years now because I used to buy them when I would go on break at a place I worked at only during the summer of 2004. However, that was also in Ohio, though on the other side of the state (Bellefontaine). I also believe I have purchased them in Southern California, while at college, but that one I can't verify at the moment.AffirmationChick 20:29, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Large Bottled Frappuccinos

message: The second sentence of the first paragraph states:
It is sold as a coffee beverage but is in actuality a milkshake.
However, the milkshake article indicates that there is no consensus definition on what exactly constitutes a milkshake.  The basic recipe varies in the US, UK, and New England.  A Frappuccino might be similar to a milkshake in the UK, but they're nothing like milkshakes in most of the US.  The term should be dropped from the definition.
Justin
:I agree.  Putting milk into a blended ice drink does not make it a milkshake.  -The Gomm 21:40, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Milkshake? 

message: Note**** Java Chips are in fact the exact same thing as Mocha Chips, the name was changed for marketing reasons, and therefore all of the drinks (except the POWER ones) can still be made at a Starbucks upon request
Why does that note exist? It should be incorporated into the actual java chip section of the "Discontinued Section". Maybe something like "While some argue that Mocha Chips and Java Chips differ in texture and taste, they are in fact the same. The name was changed for marketing reasons." 
But as far as I know, that's unsourced anyway. Just like much of that section, now that I look at it. It's a little bit NPOV, and a lot uncited. but many people could tell the difference and no longer got that type of blended coffee. According to who?
Kendall 05:44, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Java Chips 

message: This article is in need of some serious revisions/deletions. It's also chock full of original research (the parts about what the syrups taste like). It's really long for a description of one company's coffee drink product.
I just posted a comment like this yesterday. STOP DELETING DISCUSSION COMMENTS.
Dukie010 01:58, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed your comment just now from the article itself: no harm, no foul.  Thanks, GChriss <always listening><c> 17:21, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extremely POV 

message: There is no article after the title "decaf". So I guess I'll try to look up something about decaf frappuccinos. If I can't find anything, it would be nice if someone else could. 
Thanks,CreamOfTheCrop 20:36, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No article accompanying the title "decaf"? 

message: They contain some of the same topics. Can someone combine the level-two headlines and double-topics into one?
CreamOfTheCrop 21:03, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is there a subject for "varieties" and "avaliable versions"? 

message: In the movie Zoolander, several male supermodels order Orange Mocha Frappuccinos as a form of escapism. This was a limited time offering that was discontinued after summer, 2000. A similar drink could be ordered at any Starbucks by ordering a "Valencia Mocha Frappuccino" although that flavor of syrup has been discontinued.
The words "could be" doesn't make sense, because if I stated something like "you could go to the park if you wanted to" this means "You can if you want".  Since you can't order that flavor any longer, it should read something like: "Valencia Mocha Frappucino" is a similar drink that was discontinued, which was available at any Starbucks. Keihiro 15:03, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: In the section on Crème frappucinos, a Crème Frappucino is described as "caffeine-free". Starbucks has never described its crème frappuccunos as caffeine-free (to my knowledge) and there is thus no reason to believe they are.
I am thus removing this, unless someone can cite it. 
It is very unlikely that all crème frappucinos are caffeine-free: cocoa contains caffeine, and as some of the frappuccinos involve chocolate, we cannot describe crème frappuccinos as caffeine free.
--Niall9 10:24, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Caffeine-Free"

message: The name Frappuccino was coined by The Coffee Connection. In this etymology, the term frappuccino is a blend of frappé, the Greek term for a coffee-based milkshake, and cappuccino, the coffee drink with a milky topping (see below for alternate etymologies)
The article does not include the alternate etymologies mentioned at the end of this paragraph. It also offers no citation for this etymology.
One alternate etymology that I would offer is that instead of frappé, the Greek coffee-based drink, the first root is frappe, as in the regional New England term for what most of the US calls a milkshake. Given the term's point of origin was the Boston coffee shop chain The Coffee Connection and that its owner was not Greek, I think this is more plausible.
Tschlatter (talk) 13:59, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The name clearly came out of Boston and in New England "frappe" is a old word for a thick milk shake.  There are interviews to back up the etymology that it is a merging of "frappe" with "cappuccino", which even the pronunciation supports -- "frap-u-cino".  --Bruce Hall (talk) 05:18, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Which would again argue for the Boston connection I think, especially given the connection between Italian and French, and then French-Canadians and New England.  Etymonline connects "frappe" to Old French.  Did it enter italian from the French or did it enter Italian and Old French through a common source? Regardless, given the Coffee Connection connection and the popularity of "frappe" in New England (e.g. the Friendly Frappe at Friendley's restaurants), I don't think the Greek etymology holds much weight for an American invention.  The drink is clearly a combination of a milkshake and a coffee drink and in New England "frappe" is, or was, far more common then "milkshake" and so Frappucino. --Bruce Hall (talk) 08:42, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: History/Etymology

message: The following section, which was labelled ==In Popular Culture== in the article, seems trivial to me.  Does any of this seem important enough to keep? RJFJR (talk) 17:34, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivial

message: It seems like somewhere there should be nutritional information about this delicious drink. I think most people know it's a very very high calorie drink and some readers may be interested in knowing more precise numbers. But I suspect Starbucks' employees will probably remove it anyways and/or find some reason this "harmful" (to Starbucks) information should not be made public. Can someone try to include it in the article? 220.76.15.122 (talk) 16:17, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I like that idea. One could add in a statistics section or a "label" section which could include nutrition information. I could see that such info would be of a general interest nature, especially if the "battle against the bulge" picks up more steam. However, given the wide number of varieties, I am not sure how to list the info. --Bruce Hall (talk) 08:46, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nutritional information 

message: Much like Starbucks competitors in the US, like Dunkin' Donuts, Philippine coffee shops have begun offering there own versions of Frappuccinos and calling them "frappes", often with a French-like two-syllable pronunciation. I find this interesting and relevant.  It's part of the history and impact of Frappuccinos.  They have helped to create and name an entire new category of drink. An anonymous editor disagreed and struck out the reference saying '"Frappuccino-style" is not frappuccino, and is thusly irrelevent.'  I don't understand this.  Why remove a reference to the competitors' response in the Philippines but not to Dunkin' Donuts?  Can someone explain? Or should I just put the reference back in? --Bruce Hall (talk) 16:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since no one has come to the defense of the removal, I will put back in the reference to non-American competitors next to the American competitors to the Frappucino. --Bruce Hall (talk) 05:20, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frappucino "competitors" 

message: Another reason bottled Mocha Lite is lower in calories than regular Mocha is that some of the sugar is replaced with the artificial sweetener sucralose, source: (ingredient list on bottle).
Michfr (talk) 16:10, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mocha Lite Composition  

message: Substituted at 15:32, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Back in the 90s, I worked at Starbucks and back then they sent all new employees to "Starbucks school" for a week before letting them loose in the stores.  I remembered a story about how one Starbucks worker across the country somewhere invented the frappuccino and it was such a success that they took it everywhere.  I just googled it to try to get more details on that since it was 19 years ago.  The history as described on this page totally contradicts what they told us in 1997.  So I googled some more and found the version of events on the Starbucks page.  https://news.starbucks.com/news/frappuccino-turns-20  It's still not exactly how I remember it, but it's definitely possible that they didn't tell us the whole story at Starbucks School.  I don't know how to edit websites or anything, but someone should include the part about how they developed it in California in this article.
Coincidentally, I lived in Boston in 1997.  If Starbucks considered it invented in Boston, I'm sure they would have mentioned that in Starbucks School that I attended there.
165.89.84.88 (talk) 21:07, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Companies' marketing and internal training materials are not generally a great source for company history. That said, the article does not, in fact, contradict the story on the Starbucks page. Our article says "The original Frappuccino beverage was developed, named, trademarked and sold by George Howell's Eastern Massachusetts coffee shop chain, ...The beverage, with a different recipe [my emphasis], was introduced under the Starbucks name in 1995...". The Starbucks page says "By the summer of 1994, Campion’s entire district was serving blended coffee beverages to enthusiastic customers looking for refreshment. Meanwhile Starbucks acquired The Coffee Connection in Boston, along with one of their products called “frappuccino,” a cold, slushy drink made using a soft-serve machine. Starbucks applied the name to its new blended beverage." They agree that the name comes from the Coffee Connection, and the current Starbucks recipe is different from the Coffee Connection recipe. The only thing that's missing in article — and which should be added — is the story of where the Starbucks recipe comes from. --Macrakis (talk) 22:11, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  History doesn't match what's on the Starbucks website 

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message: Brand new to article editing! I was looking up Frappuccino history out of curiosity- I knew there were things that had come and gone prior to when I worked at sbux, and noticed some things were wrong or out of date by a while. Technically everything I edited is straight from Starbucks knowledge, but I don't know how to cite things properly when it's not like I have the recipe cards or pictures of items/ from registers on hand. Any tips would be appreciated. Midnightmuse1 (talk) 09:57, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsure of how to properly source