Talk:Peter Cosgrove

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:His famous exchange with ABC anchor caused a scandal back in 1994.
:FEMALE INTERVIEWER: So, General Cosgrove, what things are you going to teach these young boys when they visit your base?
:GENERAL COSGROVE: We're going to teach them climbing, canoeing, archery and shooting.
:FEMALE INTERVIEWER: Shooting! That's a bit irresponsible, isn't it?
:GENERAL COSGROVE: I don't see why, they'll be properly supervised on the rifle range.
:FEMALE INTERVIEWER: Don't you admit that this is a terribly dangerous activity to be teaching children?
:GENERAL COSGROVE: I don't see how. We will be teaching them proper rifle discipline before they even touch a firearm.
:FEMALE INTERVIEWER: But you're equipping them to become violent killers.
:GENERAL COSGROVE: Well, Ma'am, you're equipped to be a prostitute, but you're not one, are you?
:The radio went silent and the interview ended.
Nice story. Total fabrication,
First, in 1994, Cosgrove wasn't even a Brigadier (yet), much less a General.
This story has a LONG and varied history, and has been around in one form or another at least since the start of the web.
*http://www.abc.net.au/mediawatch/transcripts/s2242560.htm
*http://www.hoax-slayer.com/cosgrove-female-interviewer.shtml
*http://www.snopes.com/military/reinwald.asp
*plus 13,600 other results from google
And if the mood takes you:
*http://www.toptenz.net/top-10-best-comebacks.php
Cheers, Pdfpdf (talk) 10:39, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  NEVER let the truth get in the way of a good story! 

message: There is a higher resolution version of the image available on the GG web site available under a CC-BY license. 203.9.185.136 (talk) 01:25, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll upload it later this afternoon if no one has already uploaded it. Bidgee (talk) 01:49, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  It could almost be Tim Fischer.  --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 18:32, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
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message: How did he go from plain Mr Cosgrove yesterday, to General Cosgrove today?  That's the most rapid rise in military history.  I think we're missing some intermediate steps in his army career. --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 06:24, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I covered that with Note 21, I could easily add his LTGEN dates but before that will be difficult. Nford24 (Want to have a chat?) 07:03, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks.  I missed your note.  I still think it's odd to go straight from Mr to General.  Better, I think, to show no title at all than show one that's plainly wrong.  --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 07:21, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: His Full style from a range of sources (mainly his Bio - My Story);
28 July 19471968              	Mr Peter CosgrovePeter Cosgrove held various army ranks not listed here
19681970                      	Lieutenant Peter Cosgrove
197012 February 1971          	Captain Peter Cosgrove
12 February 1971December 1971 	Captain Peter Cosgrove MC
December 1971December 1972    	Captain Peter Cosgrove MC ADC
December 19721976             	Captain Peter Cosgrove MC
197615 January 1983           	Major Peter Cosgrove MC
15 January 198326 January 1985	Lieutenant Colonel Peter Cosgrove MC
26 January 1985July 1988      	Lieutenant Colonel Peter Cosgrove AM MC
July 1988July 1989            	Colonel Peter Cosgrove AM MC
July 1989March 1998           	Brigadier Peter Cosgrove AM MC
July 198925 March 2000        	Major General Peter Cosgrove AM MC
25 March 200016 July 2000     	Major General Peter Cosgrove AC MC
16 July 20004 July 2002       	Lieutenant General Peter Cosgrove AC MC
4 July 20023 July 2005        	General Peter Cosgrove AC MC
3 July 200528 March 2014      	General Peter Cosgrove AC MC (Ret'd)
28 March 2014Present:         	His Excellency General the Honourable Sir Peter Cosgrove AK MC, Governor-General of the Commonwealth of Australia
Nford24 (Want to have a chat?) 09:47, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well done, Nford24.  Thanks for the effort.  --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 09:51, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I concur. Pdfpdf (talk) 11:04, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Titles, styles and honours

message: It seems to me like the 'Controversy' section shouldn't exist. Two columnists/online commentators wrote a short article each that criticised the use of pre-prepared speeches after the Melbourne Cup which didn't acknowledge the fact that the winning jockey was a female. It's a pretty absurd distortion of the word 'controversy' to say that Cosgrove's speech qualifies as one. Controversy sections usually contain references to criminal activity, misconduct or words/actions that have generated a public backlash or significant public debate. In this case, an omission in Cosgrove's speech was criticised by two internet commentators on the day after, and only the day after, the Melbourne Cup. Even if it qualifies as a controversy, it was so minor that it doesn't warrant inclusion in a Wikipedia article; the point of Wikipedia is to provide relevant (read: important) information to readers, not a catalogue of the times the subject was mentioned by an online commentator/opinion-piece writer. If no one has good reason why the section should stay, I'll delete it. W108 (talk) 18:00, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, an entire section for such a minor and passing episode is probably undue weight. Anotherclown (talk) 21:27, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I added the section and now agree with its deletion.  The story was quite big at the time, more that just a couple of journalists, but it took most of its significance from being a part of the huge story, all over the Australian media for a couple of days, about the "true battler" who was the first woman to ride a Melbourne Cup winner and a 100-1 outsider at that.  Her personal story is still appearing, but the incident of the speeches has faded away. Wikiain (talk) 22:26, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy section 

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message: A recent amendment refers to Cosgrove's "automatic" knighthood on taking office as GG. I don't think that is now the case, and hasn't been for many years if it indeed existed. All GG's I can think of post WW2 came as knights or better.Lexysexy (talk) 01:13, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: See here. It was reinstituted in 2014 under Tony Abbott and abolished again when Malcolm Turnbull ousted him in 2015. The only Governor-Generals it applied to during that time were Bryce and Cosgrove. The Drover's Wife (talk) 02:51, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, thank you DW. Principal Dame/Knight as distinct from Principal Companion of the Order. All clear now.Lexysexy (talk) 00:40, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Automatic Knighhood?

message: Former Governor-General, Dame Quentin Bryce was introduced to the Queen as the Head of State of Australia. Governor-General Peter Cosgrove is similarly the Head of State of Australia, not the Queen, who is the sovereign of Australia.
:This is a topic that is best left alone. GoodDay (talk) 19:26, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Head of State