Talk:W. G. Grace

message: The article is 120k and would grow considerably, perhaps to 250k, if substantial inputs per season are done.  Partly as an experiment, I created W. G. Grace in the 1878 English cricket season recently and I suggest that is the way forward.  Grace is too big a subject for a single article and even needs his own category!  ----Jack | talk page 10:59, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It might be illuminating to see how Wiki biographies of major historical or literary figures (eg Churchill or Shakespeare) have dealt with the problem. JH (talk page) 17:59, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Winston Churchill has been tagged as over 100k and has its own category which contains numerous other biographical pieces.  ----Jack | talk page 18:11, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Size of article

message: As the article is subject to extensive restructure via the creation of multiple sub-articles, I've reduced the rating to start until it adequately meets criteria 1 and 5. ----Jack | talk page 12:08, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Rating

message: Should there not always be a space between his initals, as in W._G._Grace? Both this and the unspaced W.G._Grace appear randomly throughout the article. In keeping with List of literary initials (maybe there is some WP:-type rule to invoke?), I propose a name change to W._G._Grace (without the underscores, obviously) wherever it occurs. >MinorProphet (talk) 17:41, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I think I've done them all. It applied to E. M. Grace also. Jack | talk page 13:21, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed name change / spacing of initials 

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message: I heard that his death was brought on by the news of the death of his favourite nephew in the trenches. No sign of this here. Any updates? Valetude (talk) 22:58, 2 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd not heard of this. We'd need a reputable source before we could put it in. JH (talk page) 09:07, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  WW1 

message: I hadn't intended to imply that the whole sentence was a quotation. The placing of the Opinion tag at the end of the sentence had led me to assume that the tag applied to the quotation at the end of the sentence rather than to the unquoted part preceding it. It seems to me that the unquoted part directly relies on the two preceding paragraphs - themselves well-referenced - on Grace's "shamateurism", and hence needs no further citation. JH (talk page) 08:39, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Should it be put in a quote block? --Greatder (talk) 02:53, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Given how short the quote is, I wouldn't have thought so, but I don't really know what the guidelines on that are. JH (talk page) 07:08, 9 September 2021 (UTC)

text: Even if the preceding part is well referenced, it would still be violating WP:NOR, I think quote is the best way to present it. --Greatder (talk) 09:00, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really see that Whatever criticisms may be made of Grace for making money for himself out of cricket involves OR, since it's clear from the preceding paras that some at the time were unhappy about it. However I'd be happy to replace the words in dispute with some other lead-in to the quote, such as Regardless of the above, - where "the above" clearly refers to the two preceding paragraphs. JH (talk page) 17:25, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of the Opinion tag