Talk:Imperialism (Hobson book)

message: IP Address: 72.82.233.15 (talk · contribs) vandalized this page in two separate edits on 6 February 2013. One of these edits was undone by a user while another one (stating that the economic taproot of imperialism was found "in the anus of a monkey" was disregarded as only being questionable (a "citation needed" tag was later attached to it by another user). I have reverted this page to its state before this vandalism and plan to increase the quality of this page. --02:10, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Please note that this article's infobox is retrieving an ISBN from Wikidata currently. This is the result of a change made to  as a result of  this RfC. It would be appreciated if an editor took some time to review this ISBN to ensure it is appropriate for the infobox. If it is not, you could consider either correcting the ISBN on Wikidata (preferred) or introducing a blank ISBN parameter in the infobox to block the retrieval from Wikidata. If you do review the ISBN, please respond here so other editors don't duplicate your work. This is an automated message to address concerns that this change did not show up on watchlists. ~ RobTalk 01:23, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
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message: Daniel Finkelstein states that the book has antisemitic content and criticises Jeremy Corbyn for writing a foreword in the 2011 edition. JFW | T@lk 19:53, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a quote from the book that is particularly damning. "United by the strongest bonds of organisation, always in closest and quickest touch with one another, situated in the very heart of the business capital of every State, controlled, so far as Europe is concerned, chiefly by men of a single and peculiar race, who have behind them many centuries of financial experience, they are in a unique position to control the policy of nations. No great quick direction of capital is possible save by their consent and through their agency. Does any one seriously suppose that a great war could be undertaken by any European State, or a great State loan subscribed, if the house of Rothschild and its connections set their face against it?" It's pretty clearly trying to scapegoat Jews. It's not the whole of the book, but it is an important component. 66.108.31.114 (talk) 02:07, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  "The play of these forces does not openly appear. They are essentially parasites upon patriotism, and they adapt themselves to its protecting colours. In the mouths of their representatives are noble phrase, expressive of their desire to extend the area of civilisation, to establish good government, promote Christianity, extirpate slavery, and elevate the lower races. Some of the business men who hold such language may entertain a genuine, though usually a vague, desire to accomplish these ends, but they are primarily engaged in business, and they are not unaware of the utility of the more unselfish forces in furthering their ends. Their true attitude of mind is expressed by Mr. Rhodes in his famous description of “Her Majesty’s Flag” as “the greatest commercial asset in the world.” " 66.108.31.114 (talk) 02:09, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

text: Jfdwolff -- I wanted to add something like the below to the article, but I couldn't find a good reference.  (I couldn't read the Times article)... AnonMoos (talk) 02:51, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

text: Should we add something about how there was no reference to his anti-Semitism on this page or on the author's page prior to 1st May 2019? 83.218.151.178 (talk) 09:36, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's factually incorrect (there was in the past), and in any event this article is about the book - not about the Wikipedia article on the book. You could consider creating Wikipedia article on Imperialism (Hobson) if you consider the Wikipedia article itself notable, though I think it fails notability guidelines. Icewhiz (talk) 09:46, 1 May 2019 (UTC)

text: 83.218.151.178 -- that's actually quite a common phenomenon with Wikipedia articles on individuals in the second and third tiers of historical fame.  Their articles are often maintained by people trying to keep their memory alive, and unpleasant details sometimes have a way of dropping out over time.  For a long time, there was nothing on the Pierre-Joseph Proudhon page about what many people would call his blatant misogyny (or at a minimum his militant rampaging rabid anti-feminism).  I had to recuse myself from efforts to get this mentioned on the Proudhon article, since I would have gotten into bitter disputes with the person maintaining the Proudhon article, without accomplishing much, probably... AnonMoos (talk) 10:29, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antisemitism 

message: In the section called "Taproot of Imperialism", I've attempted to rephrase some things to make them seem more neutral. It might sound more clumsy now. I invite someone to take a look. Here is the relevant diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Imperialism_%28Hobson%29&type=revision&diff=930820714&oldid=927596207
--Svennik (talk) 19:10, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Objectivity and style: "states that", "argues that"