Talk:Channel Islands

message: Article moved to misleading title without discussion. The Channel Islands are not part of the UK and do not "belong" to the UK as made clear in the article. Article should be moved back pending discussion. Man vyi (talk) 05:51, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed - move reverted. Tivedshambo (talk) 17:38, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oppose move (2008)

message: I have numerous concerns about the current proposal for a guideline for the use of the term British Isles and have written another proposal. My main concerns were that the proposal as it is written here did not walk the line of WP:NPOV, did not have an adequate grounding in current consensus and practice, and did not offer any concrete guidelines per se that an editor could follow or easily understand (in the broadest sense of the term).
My proposed guidelines are here. --sony-youthpléigh 20:36, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another proposed guideline for "the British Isles" 

message: :Category:Channel Islands is itself a category within :Category:Archipelagoes. — Robert Greer (talk) 01:19, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Category:Channel Islands]] vs.[[:Category:Archipelagoes]] 

message: An RFC has been opened inviting comments on whether the Channel Islands should be treated as part of the British Isles on Wikipedia. All views are welcome here. --rannṗáirtí anaiṫnid (coṁrá) 20:11, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  RFC on whether the Channel Islands are a part of the British Isles 

message: I have restored the article to  which includes in the lead section that the Channel Islands are "in the English Channel". . It surprises me that this could be in any way contentious, but  has repeatedly removed this statement (, , , ). His rationale is "When you look at a map, it's difficult to understand how this island group could be described as being located in the English Channel. It seems confusing to describe their location in such a way." That may be his opinion, but Wikipedia deals in facts, and the Channel Islands are geographically in the English Channel. So for that matter is Chausey - the French Channel Island, even nearer to Normandy - or the Roches-Douvres Light.
As the English Channel article states, the International Hydrographic Organization defines the Channel as the sea east of a line joining Île Vierge and Land's End through to where the Channel joins the North Sea off Calais. This includes the waters a[d]joining the Brittany and Normandy coast.
If any reader remains to be convinced, here are a selection of references to support the statement:
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Curb Safe Charmer (talk) 14:44, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup. -Roxy, the dog. wooF 14:55, 16 August 2019 (UTC)

text: Yup. Maybe Noel Darlow thought "English Channel" meant "Dover Strait" or something? — LlywelynII 20:07, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Channel Islands are in the English Channel 

message: The second paragraph contains this sentence: "In official Jersey Standard French, the islands are called 'Îles de la Manche', while in France, the term 'Îles Anglo-normandes' (Anglo-Norman Isles) is used to refer to the British 'Channel Islands' in contrast to other islands in the Channel."
I have modified the sentence to "In official Jersey Standard French, the Channel Islands ... ", to clarify that the comment doesn't refer to the Chausey Islands; however, I believe the sentence is misplaced, as the sub-heading is "The Chausey Islands". The sentence should, I suggest, be relocated to the sub-section Names. Anyone care to comment? Prisoner of Zenda (talk) 00:20, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Chausey Islands 

message: Currently, the article reads
:Historically, they are the remnants of the Duchy of Normandy. 
which is kinda sorta accurate in a way that's fine for a lead overview. Hell, the Channelleers even toast their "Duke" thinking they're talking about Normandy to this day. However, at some point in the body of the article, there should be a brief acknowledgement that the 1259 Treaty of Paris formally reorganized them as part of the Duchy of Aquitaine instead when HenryIII finally acknowledged that Normandy was gone for the foreseeable future. (If the exact point afterwards that the islands got severed from Aquitaine and became entirely free-floating not-quite-English-or-British dependencies could be pinpointed, that would be worth mentioning too. More likely, it was just a series of vague not-quite-statements that shifted the situation over time.) — LlywelynII 19:59, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Yeah, but no