Talk:Darcey Bussell

message: It is possible, I suspect, that 82.20.55.105 is the most BORING human being that has ever lived. Last night, I stated the FACT that Darcey Bussell is incredibly hot. This is an a priori truth, incontrovertible and irrefutable. It is entirely relevant to the main page, being as it states a fact about Darcey Bussell. I was surprised, therefore, to find out that this comment was "reverted" - meaning censored - mere hours after its initial addition.
Have you nothing better to do with your time, 82.20.55.105?  To paraphrase Zaphod Beeblebrox, you are so un-hip I'm surprised your bum doesn't fall off. Perhaps if you relaxed for a while, you might find that people start enjoying your company.
I'm going to see how many times modifying this page causes you to re-respond, since I'm quite childish. We'll see who wins.
Moz attics 07:34, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't state in the article that she's pretty, even though it is true. That is because it is not a neutral statement, whereas all articles must be neutral. Nietzsche 2 (talk) 00:14, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attractiveness 

message: It's stated in the article that 'The Song of The Earth', in her farewell performance, was broadcast live. In point of fact only the last song was live. The BBC obviously baulked at the whole (1 hour) ballet, particularly as Bussell danced in only two of the songs - including the last, which runs half an hour. What they all too obviously did was to record the earlier song she appeared in, plus 'The Song of the Drunkard' (which she didn't appear in, but is short), on a hard disk delay system, playing them out later, timing it so that they could go from the end of 'Drunkard' to the beginning of the final song. (In point of fact they made a right mess of the transitions in both cases, rather giving the game away).
This is probably too detailed a comment to go into the main article, but perhaps an appended note? - or at least a re-wording so as not to imply that the BBC actually transmitted the whole work live ( perish the thought that they might credit their audience with a bit of intelligence). RFWilmut 20:40, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Farewell performance 

message: Hello,
I removed what looked like graffiti today (12-Sept-2007) from the Biography section - "DREAMS MUST B MADE".
If this was there for a sane purpose, please re-instate. 
smckane  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Smckane (talk • contribs) 20:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: As good a ballerina as Ms. Bussell is (a prized possession is my DVD of her dancing the role of Mitzy in Kenneth Macmillan's Mayerling) there are very few dancers -- if any -- who are of hign importance: Taglioni, Elssler, Nureyev, Barishnikov (Pavlova is legitimately top importance.) The principal dancers in some companies might well merit low importance aricles (this is NOT to say they are not important to ballet, but articles?) Those who are more significant have often been so for their later careers; Marie Rambert, Peter Martins and Peter Boal come to mind, and Nikolaj Hübbe will soon join their ranks as ballet master of the Royal Danish. — Robert Greer (talk) 15:08, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mid vs. High importance 

message: you have made a mistake by putting this in the sentence:
She is producing a special dance to staged during the the  launch party,featuring dancers of all the Royal Ballet and students of the Royal Ballet School.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.30.243.56 (talk) 20:30, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duplication 

message: In the data panel on the right it says that Darcey Bussel was born in London, but in the main text it says that she was born in Ashby.  There is no district in London called Ashby, but there are a number of places in the UK and possibly elsewhere with that name.  Clarification is needed.  I have also heard (sorry no 'reliable sources' that I can recall) in print media and TV programs that her full name in Marnie Mercedes Darcey Pemberton-Crittle,but that she has changed it by deed poll or otherwise.  Barney Bruchstein (talk) 11:25, 2 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the main article and the info box list different birth names. Which is correct? VenomousConcept (talk) 14:39, 3 October 2014 (UTC)

text: I happened across this article, and noticed the dispute re: birth name in the edit history, so took a look at the birth records, which are exactly as Dbridge276 says above; since the Guardian article is now behind a log-in thingy, what is the context for the Guardian article's statement on her birth name? Is it quoting her, or does it just outright say "born Marnie etc etc"? It might be worth also mentioning that Bussell's own autobiography doesn't make any mention of the discrepant birthname. Less reputable sources like The Sun make statements like "Her parents, John Crittle and Andrea Williams, had actually named the dancer Marnie Mercedes Darcey Pemberton Crittle, but as her career as a professional ballerina took off, she opted for a stage name instead" but this clearly isn't the case given the birth record, so one wonders what the exact source of what appears to be a completely false birth name is? The comment on the birth record, as Dbridge276 observes, is worth bearing in mind- could it originally have read "Marnie Mercedes etc"? At what point after the fact was the apparent alteration to "Darcey Andrea" made?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.171.119 (talk) 18:35, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Managed to view the cached Guardian article, wherein Bussell's paternal aunt refers to her as "Marnie", correcting herself to "Darcey"; given the article's discussion of Bussell's virtually non-existent relationship with her father, it's probable that her name was changed after the fact to remove the elements which possibly came from the father's side- e.g. "Pemberton", which would appear to be a family surname. At any rate, given that the article is centred on an interview with Bussell, it might reasonably be thought that they would have fact-checked with her/ related persons, particularly seeing as a check of the available details, as described by Dbridge276 above and undertaken by me, results in no obvious mention of the apparent original birth name, therefore it must have come from some other source who would have known the fact, such as Bussell herself/ family members.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.171.119 (talk) 18:41, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Just for anyone interested- this site https://rockpopfashion.com/blog/?p=53 has some interesting details of John Crittle, and some illuminating comments at the bottom, including from the aunt quoted in the Guardian article, as well as one repeating the "originally Marny" (sic) aspect.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.171.119 (talk) 18:49, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Also for reference, a 1998 Independent article/ interview giving birth name as "Marnie Mercedes Darcey Andrea Pembleton Crittle", evidently synthesising both versions: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/the-night-i-stepped-on-darcey-s-toes-1175427.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.171.119 (talk) 18:55, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Per this- http://dancelines.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2011/02/Another-frustrating-night.pdf - the "Marnie" was in honour of John Crittle's grandmother; as suggested above, the purpose of the change to "Darcey Andrea" was evidently to emphasise the mother with the middle name, and removing the elements pertaining to the father's side.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.171.119 (talk) 19:04, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Problem: neither of John Crittle's grandmothers was named Marnie!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kintree (talk • contribs) 16:53, 6 January 2022 (UTC)

text: When she married the GRO index gives her name as "Darcy A Bussell". MilborneOne (talk) 18:06, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthplace & Name 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: It seems that she does indeed have a half-sister named Zaylie, see The Guardian: "Her mother re-married Philip Bussell, an Australian dentist living in London, when Darcey was six, and they had two more children, James and Zaylie." and questia.com: here, Whether or not she should be named in the article is another question. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:55, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: If Zaylie were notable in her own right, then it would make sense to mention her by name. Otherwise, the most a mention that would warrant is that her mother and stepfather had two children together. —C.Fred (talk) 18:16, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Could be added to "Early life" section. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:12, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sister Zaylie 

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