Talk:Veracruz (city)

message: I think the second half of this article needs to be moved to the veracruz city page.
As many vandalisms as this page seems to have suffered, I'm guessing this is the product of one. (Vandalism is among the most despicable activities humans have managed to invent).
It seems to me very improbable that the second most populous city in Veracruz is Orizaba, as the text now says. Probably it would be Mina-Coatza, then Xalapa, or Córdoba, and Orizaba below any of these. Anybody have the population statistics handy enough to check this out. I don't have them or the time to look for them.
--Lavintzin 01:21, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Projections, such as those at the CONAPO site, are notoriously inaccurate. Besides, there is no reason to use them when actual census figures are available at INEGI Backspace 03:21, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

message: For Mexico, one has to be careful in what is considered a "city" in the normal sense of the word. In Mexico, the only legal "cities" are the municipios, which consist of a central city plus the surrounding area, and can best be compared to a U.S. "county".  Municipios are divided into localidades, which are probably more comparable to what most people define as "cities". These localidades, however, have no legal function, but are only geographical parts of a municipio. They have no local government, but are subject to the municipio's government.
In light of that statement, here are the largest municipios of Veracruz, according to the latest 2005 Mexican census:
#Veracruz	512310
#Xalapa	413136
#Coatzacoalcos	280363
#Córdoba	186623
#Poza Rica de Hidalgo	181438
#Papantla	152863
#Minatitlán	151983
#San Andrés Tuxtla	148447
#Boca del Río	141906
#Túxpam	134394
#Orizaba	117289
#Cosoleacaque	104970
#Temapache	100790
Here are the largest localidades It is important to note that there are two localidades named Veracruz, and two named Minatitlán. All localidades are in the municipio of the same (or very similar) name except as noted:
#Veracruz [Veracruz municipio]	444438
#Xalapa-Enríquez	387879
#Coatzacoalcos	234174
#Poza Rica de Hidalgo	174512
#Córdoba	136237
#Veracruz [Boca del Río municipio]	129416
#Orizaba	117273
#Minatitlán [Minatitlán municipio]	109791
#Túxpam de Rodríguez Cano	78523
#San Andrés Tuxtla	58757
#Martínez de la Torre	56433
#Papantla de Olarte	51716
#Acayucan	49945
#Coatepec	49608
#Tierra Blanca	44171
#Minatitlán [Cosoleacaque municipio]	43116
#Las Choapas	40773
#Río Blanco	39997
#Agua Dulce	37987
#Pánuco	37450
#Perote	34658
#Ciudad Mendoza [Camerino Z. Mendoza municipio]	34313
#Tlapacoyan	33151
#Jáltipan de Morelos	30509
#Coatzintla	30061
I hope that this helps to settle some debates.
You can find documentation for all this at INEGI
:By the way, Veracruz is the largest Mexican city on the Gulf of Mexico. That figure on Tampico would probably be the metropolitan area population, which as the article indicates, includes the cities of Ciudad Madero and Altamira. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Backspace (talk • contribs) 19:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, those were my comments. I am forgetting to remember to put those four tildes in at the end of my comments. Re: the previous comment: The figure of 659,597 in the current article for Tampico is the 2005 census official total for the municipios of Tampico: 303,924 plus Ciudad Madero: 193,045 and Altamira: 162,623. Backspace 02:59, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Municipio'' versus ''Localidad''

message: I'm interested in knowing what were the pre columbian Indian populations of Veracruz, what languages they spoke, and what's left of these languages nowadays (including speaking populations, and whether they are primary languages, secondary/family home languages, or relegated to patois/backwater language status). Does anybody know a good source for such information? --Svartalf 19:04, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Languages of Veracruz

message: For Veracruz to be represented at the Rose Bowl parade is a major achievement. This should not be removed without discussion and consensus. Ronbo76 21:31, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appearance/representation in Rose Bowl Parade 

message: the picture titled "new housing developments in the city" refers to an image not anywhere in the city  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.148.131.64 (talk) 03:16, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
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message: Should this article be called Veracruz (municipality)? Suomi Finland 2009 (talk) 20:31, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  new title? 

message: *Comment I would move Veracruz (disambiguation) to Veracruz, and move the state to Veracruz (state), as for the city, how about Veracruz (city) ? (Google hits are higher for the phrase "city of Veracruz" than the term "Veracruz City" or the term "Veracruz, Veracruz") "Veracruz, Mexico" would then point to the disambiguation page Veracruz (disambiguation) (which would be located at "Veracruz" after the moves). -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 06:43, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: *If the city is moved, that's fine, but I don't think the state or dab should be moved as a result of this move request since they weren't the main focus of the discussion and editors at those pages weren't alerted to the discussion. Dekimasuよ! 22:45, 21 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

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