Talk:René Lévesque

message: Along with WP:CANADA, all the provincial WikiProjects & the WikiProject for the territories, have been notified of this ongoing discussion. GoodDay (talk) 20:38, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProjects notified

message: *A - As he was a Canadian & having looked over the bios of some other provincial & territorial premiers. They use "Canadian politician" in their leads, including the leads of Quebec premiers from the PQ -  Pierre Marc Johnson (Canadian lawyer, physician and politician),  Jacques Parizeau (Canadian politician),  Bernard Landry (Canadian politician),  Pauline Marois (Canadian politician). Also, Lucien Bouchard uses (French Canadian lawyer, diplomat and retired politician). GoodDay (talk) 15:21, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyways, what is option C? I vote for 'all of the above':  Cremastra (talk) 22:28, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you think it is necessary to refer to him as both (Canadian and Québecois) in that way? Even if, as is currently the case, the rest of the first sentence notes that he was the "23rd premier of Quebec" and the second sentence of the lede notes that he was a "Québécois political leader"? I understand this RfC to only be about the first half of the first sentence in the lede as that was what was been edit warred about. I am not sure your suggestion that commenters are unaware of Quebec's political situation is correct, it just seems to me that many are just happy with the balance present in this version of the lede. Or this one.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 21:40, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

text:  you may want to bring that argument to the talkpage of WP:CANADA, if you're proposing to include that for all politicians from the province. GoodDay (talk) 21:23, 17 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Why should we use both in the first part of the first sentence? The rest of the first sentence already notes that he was the "23rd premier of Quebec" and the second sentence of the lede notes that he was a "Québécois political leader". There are numerous mentions of his Quebec and Québécois connections which will remain regardless.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 16:03, 21 December 2023 (UTC)

text:  Check over the lead. We're merely asking if "Quebecois politician" should be replaced with "Canadian politician" GoodDay (talk) 17:31, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I did and I'm not in favor. Best. — Sadko (words are wind) 17:46, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: So ... you're saying use "Canadian and Quebecois politician..."? GoodDay (talk) 17:58, 21 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly, using only one option is too limiting in all sorts of way. — Sadko (words are wind) 06:22, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps, it is. Maybe we should be revisiting whole lede as opposed to just the first part of the first sentence, as those arguing for both seem to be disregarding the other extensive mentions of Quebec and Québécois in the lede, and the current absence of any mention of Canada/Canadian. If the only mention of Canada is going to be prefaced with a reference to ethnicity contrary to MOS:ETHNICITY, the other mentions seem unnecessary and/or undue in the circumstances. Perhaps a complete rewrite of the lede is needed then.-- Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 22:34, 22 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Note that he was actually a Federal politician for aa significant period before he became a provincial politician. Meters (talk) 22:48, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
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