Talk:Jeremy Hammond

message: Anyone else feel that the External Links section has become a world of its own (needing to be cropped). -- Kerowren (talk • contribs • &site= count) 15:46, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, since this article is biographic about an individual I just commented out all the extra links that were in the external links section because they weren't looking nice there (seemed like an advertisement}. I noticed somebody put up a red link to hackbloc which I'm taking to mean that someone wants to create an article about hackbloc, so if that happens, maybe the extras could be moved to it. Please reply if you are going to replace the links. -- Kerowren 18:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Jeremy Hammond#External links|External Links]] 

message: :Ok, since this article is biographic about an individual I just commented out all the extra links that were in the external links section because they weren't looking nice there (seemed like an advertisement}. I noticed somebody put up a red link to hackbloc which I'm taking to mean that someone wants to create an article about hackbloc, so if that happens, maybe the extras could be moved to it. Please reply if you are going to replace the links. -- Kerowren 18:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Update

message: Can we get his Board of Prison link reinstated?  Vis a vis the LulzSec takedown.
http://www.bop.gov/iloc2/InmateFinderServlet?Transaction=NameSearch&needingMoreList=false&FirstName=Jeremy&Middle=&LastName=Hammond&Race=W&Sex=M&Age=27&x=97&y=19
This is cogent because he was technically still on a 3 year parole with stipulations not to participate in something like this when LulzSec formed.  So there are indications of parole violation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.102.222.101 (talk) 18:21, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: LulzSec Asking for link reinstatement

message: I added some additional materials related to Jeremy's works, because a lot of what was written seem to be by people who did not know jeremy personally. I also fixed up a lot of gaping inaccuracies and mischaracterizations, most of which seem to be made by archaios or others who have personal disagreements with Jeremy. Archaios was also working with Jeremy on the scheme which jeremy was busted for, but archaios betrayed Jeremy and turned over logs and other evidence which was used to convict Jeremy, saving himself. Others seem to be right wing republican/protestwarrior types who keep making prison rape jokes and equally insulting and tasteless comments. So be wary that there are those who are trying to paint Jeremy in a negative light when those who have met and known Jeremy personally understand how dedicated and passionate Jeremy is. He will be missed for the two years in prison and when he gets out he will be well received by supporters. - situationist
:: Yep, because Jeremy should ONLY be painted in a positive light.  Why?  Because how else will he fool everybody into believing he's harmless?  I DO know Jeremy personally, this is one of the reasons I have a personal problem with him.  And I'll be damned if I'm going to let some bleeding heart whitewash this guy and turn him into some kind of wannabe saint/hero.  He's not a saint.  He's not a hero.  He's a stupid script kiddie who got himself caught, tried to weasel out, and went to jail for his crime as he should have.65.182.189.106 10:29, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  You both don't seem to get it. Knowing Jeremy personally is a bad thing. It's considered original research, which isn't acceptable. I don't care if he's a knight in shining armor or a useless script kiddie; Wikipedia isn't the place to argue that. Tautologous (talk) 16:34, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Jeremy Supporter

message: I have been a WP editor for a year.  I have never engaged in edit wars.  I have had nothing to do with any unpleasantness in this matter.  I created this article last week after going to hackthissite.org to inquire about testing port scanning software.  It was there I first learned about Mr. Hammond.  I thought his story was interesting and sought more information on WP.  I was surprised to find no article as it seemed a inherently notable topic.  So I wrote a stubbish one.  I made no reference to any earlier versions, as I did not know they existed.  It is highly unlikely that this article bears much in common with any deleted article.  I have sourced the article appropriately for a stub and feel the article should not be deleted.  I don't mean to make it difficult, and I understand that an article about hackers and parody protesters could be draw people who might be difficult.  But the fact remains it is notable.  The recent plea/sentencing also adds material.  I understand that JH is young, and an article about criminal activity that has not been proven/admitted is problematic.  With the plea entered this is no longer the case.  I do not have a negative opinion of JH.  If anything I mildly admire him.  I have no animosity toward his victims.  I believe in debate and free speech and believe this topic raises interesting points Edivorce 23:23, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Honest Article

message: There are several contentious points made within this article, both for and against Hammond. The claim regarding hacktivism for a start; I removed another NPOV, uncited claim that the anonymous informant "pretended to be anarchist and sympathetic to his cause", and that he was "associated with Protest Warrior." Such unsubstantiated claims and my predilection to consider Mr. Hammond's actions as far from notable (see Articles for Deletion entry) must be seriously considered when updating this article; I hope that this can be resolved in a timely manner, irrespective of the contentious nature of the subject. Archaios 06:27, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah that's great, but I find that your opinions are far from unbiased, regarding the fact that Hammond's sentencing guide contains this information 'On or about February 3rd, 2005, Alfia received an online message from "Archaios" (pronounced "Arch Chaos"). Archaios stated that Jeremy Hammond and some of his associates compromised the ProtestWarrior server and obtained the entire database of credit cards and member information. Archaios was cooperating with Alfia because he was upset with Hammond for letting an associate take the fall for a hack in which Hammond had shared responsibility.' and the fact that you have let it known that you are working for Alfia would mean that 'the informant' ie you is in fact 'associated with Protest Warrior'. You'll have to forgive me for not taking you seriously. --EJFox 07:54, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I am perfectly willing to admit my involvement. However, this is not relevant to the defamatory points made. First and foremost, my political ideology was and is based on a superset of autonomist Marxism, anarchosyndicalism. To claim that this was a mere masquerade is absurd. Second, my "association with protest warrior" never existed, and does not to this day. As for the reason I acted informant? Do not engage in idle conjecture. There is no evidentiary foundation even for the position  disclosed in the court records. This article is non-NPOV. This must be rectified. Archaios 08:45, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Is the NPOV Dispute Over? All references to the person Archaios purports to be (no offense meant but this is not self authenticating, although I tend to believe him) have been removed.  This would seem to resolve his principal concern.  What is the proper procedure for removing the tag?  People from different viewpoint are working together to edit the article.  I don't think it needs to be stigmatzed by the template.  I will invite User:Archaios to reply.Edivorce 05:00, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think it is, I'm going to remove it. --EJFox 02:53, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV dispute

message: I'm glad to have people who are knowledgeable and passionate about this topic representing a range of views on the matter.  This subject seems rich in terms of issues relating to free expression and effort to suppress the exercise of the same by others.  All of this on a variety of levels that makes it fascinating. We have to keep in mind that we need to avoid original research including information we have personal knowledge about (not a problem in my case).  I know this might sound silly but can we develop sources, even for information we might feel we know in an intimate manner?
This is inline with with the task of editing for an encyclopedia.Edivorce 04:26, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Avoiding Original Research

message: :Please do not re-add that link.
:It does nothing to add or detract from this subject's notability, since he is not named anywhere within the body of the article. So to assume that it is even relavant to this discussion would be incorrect. 
:Aside from the vague reference to "five Chicago-area activists" he is not alluded to-even obliquely-anywhere within the context of that story, and the story itself is certainly not related in any substantive way to Jeremy Hammond. 
:Before re-adding an irrelevant article please take your dispute to this discussion page. Ruthfulbarbarity 01:47, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Easy killer. As noted in the edit by another user, he is both pictured and noted in the caption. The arrests talk about him and others, making it relevant to him. Please research more before you become defensive and seemingly aggressive. Thank you for trying to help. --EJFox 02:03, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Toledo Blade Article

message: I added a sentence concerning the lack of an award of restitution as part of the Judges sentence.  This seems needed to balance the inclusion of 2.5 M alleged by prosecutor.  Ohterwise I don't think we need to include "things the Judge didn't do".Edivorce 04:39, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Restitution

message: is this a joke or just a typo?
[..]On March 7, 2008, Hammond's apartment in Chicago was raided by FBI agents[...] —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.102.53.42 (talk) 00:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  what the hell? 

message: Someone posted an inappropriate image containing an image macro made out of a photo included in a magazine article.
Please be aware that some evildoers are out to take their personal feuds out to wikipedia.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:81.68.125.220 (talk • contribs). Edivorce 20:20, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: In regards to the halsted three incident noted by an anonymous visitor I recalled the incident and pulled up some articles at least discussing the points made. One is an Indymedia article regarding Jeremy Hammond's 'snitching' and an article regarding the three's arrest. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ejfox (talk • contribs) 18:38, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Halsted Three 

message: I added two sections, "History" and "Security Risks". These include information that is true, but you will not hear from either Jeremy or his supporters. I also added to "Other Activism", and changed some of the information on the Toledo arrests; as I was one of the seven arrested in the group with Jeremy. The charges were of contempt of court, not disorderly conduct. I think it is important for people to recognize how much they are putting themselves in harm's way by befriending and supporting Jeremy, especially those who consider themselves activists. Among all the chaos that surrounds this situation, there are a lot of truths. Jeremy seems like he has his heart in the right place when it comes to his friends, but he is horribly jaded when it comes to everything else... He deliberately puts others at risk with the choices he makes, all for this sort of martyr status he wants to portray. The last thing I ever heard him say? "I've got nothing to lose!" - dancet0k 68.74.179.111 02:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I added a few more links, specifically ones to discussion on Chicago Indymedia between activists on how they feel about Jeremy. Also, I received a copy of the statement put out by Chicago ABCN, but was asked by a member of the network not to put it directly onto the internet, as neither of us can speak for the network as a whole; there is obviously a chance that some members of the International ABCN do not even know who Jeremy is, and it is important not to make singular decisions for such a large group. - dancet0k 68.74.179.111 02:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Changed some things...

message: I made a specific proposal for addressing some problems with the current state of the article.  They can be found in the "Security Risk" section above on this talk page. Edivorce 22:22, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal for Changes

message: I'm not sure if this was the right page, but I think there used to be a picture of Jeremy (posing w/ his laptop).  What happened to it and/or is there one that can be used?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.216.163.100 (talk) 13:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture of Jeremy

message: Gty450,
Please refrain from making reckless edits to the article. While there are doubtless many ways it could be improved, you've removed everything from the page that could be considered critical of Hammond or suggesting that he is on probation and even gone so far as to remove links to such information. You've made these and other edits without any explanation besides "lies of the state" -- a reason that few other Wikipedia editors are going to find sufficient. The page you saw before you edited was a compromise reached through a consensus process by people who felt the article needed to be more critical of Hammond and people who felt it ought to be less. If you want to contribute to this page, you should participate in this consensus process.
Also, please refrain from making series of edits whose only purpose is to make it difficult for future editors to revert your edits. This is abuse and can get your account blocked. --SgtSchumann (talk) 17:58, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a reminder: everything in a biography of a living person should have sources. WP:BLP Anything that isn't sourced may be removed and should be removed if it's derogatory. That even applies to felons. Let's not add or restore anything for which we don't have an adequate citation.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 21:15, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for the reminder. I've started re-adding some of the material with appropriate citations. I'd like to note, however, that some of the material that has been surreptitiously removed without explanation is not derogatory by any stretch of the imagination. --SgtSchumann (talk) 00:02, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Even positive material should be sourced. There are several references listed at the end, if may just be a matter of checking them and adding inline citations.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 00:08, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This applies only to content in the body of an article. There are some things, however, like pictures and external links that cannot have citations added to them, yet these were also surreptitiously removed. It's good to supply sources. It's also good to be vigilant to protect against reckless editing. --SgtSchumann (talk) 00:29, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:EL concerns external links, as does WP:BLP. I think the picture was deleted for lack of proper license.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 00:47, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Content Dispute? 

message: Hammond frequently uses the names Insurgency and Tylerknowsbest in his IRC usage (records from the US Pirate Party IRC show him using that back to 2007) as well as his email using the alias of Tyler Durden (as in Fight Club). Since these appear to be his regular, modern-day aliases, why do they keep being removed from the article? 68.215.153.112 (talk) 22:14, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Because they are unsourced. See WP:BLP. Jayjg (talk) 02:05, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

text: What's his problem?  Why cant wikipedia mention aliases related to Jeremy Hammond?? These aliases are relevant especially considering wikipedia lists alias founders for HackThisSite which is founded by Jeremy Hammond.--Anonymous  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.210.16.61 (talk) 02:42, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional Aliases 

message: References should be placed in line so that they attribute themselves directly to information written --RichardMills65 (talk) 02:13, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  references in line 

message: I just scanned this article, but there are a few very iffy legal claims made here that are NNPOV & backed up by nothing.
"The arrests were largely due to entrapment by the FBI." Does whoever wrote this have any understanding of the legal definition of entrapment? I doubt it. Many acts that ordinary people would consider "entrapment" aren't entrapment under the law. More importantly, has entrapment been proved in court? Not according to this article. Whether Hammond was actually entrapped is not our place to speculate. That's for a court to determine, not the personal opinion of editors who support Hammond (of which I'm one).
Another: "This conflict of interest, by law, should have disqualified Judge Preska from sitting on the case in the first place." According to whom? Democracy Now!? Give me an unbiased break. We have no place declaring that this judge should have recused himself, particularly when we phrase it as an explicit legal claim. Again, it's not a matter of whether he morally, ethically or even legally should have recused himself. It's a matter of whether Wikipedia, an unbiased source of information, can authoritatively make that claim. Hell no we can't. We're an encyclopedia, not a law firm, & I very much doubt this was written by a lawyer (& even if it was, it still has no place here).
These kinds of statements are not only unsupported & potentially wrong, they tilt the article heavily in Hammond's favor. This should be the last place to litigate whether he was right or wrong.Ctnelsen (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 23:35, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead & edited. I changed the entrapment sentence & removed the disqualification claim. I also removed the citations they relied upon. Both cited to Democracy Now! articles/interviews that are pure biased opinion & speculation, not fact. I'm not going to do it, but this article needs a NPOV tag, if only to try to put a stop to this litigation of Hammond's guilt/innocence.Ctnelsen (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 19:06, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legal Claims 

message: Who is xec96 ? This alias is listed as founder in HackThisSite and clicking on xec96 comes to Jeremy Hammond and the other founders dont have wikipedia pages.  Is Jeremy Hammond xec96 ? --Anonymous
Yes. W1tchkr4ft 00 (talk) 18:31, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  HackThisSite founder 

message: Added a Support section including statements of support from prominent figures.
--Farmsworth (talk) 22:35, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Support section 

message: This article was written by the National Security Agency and/or CIA.  Wikipedia is not the "democratic" encyclopedia that you think it is.  It is run by imperialist, Finance/industrial capitalist interests and the national security state apparatus that exists to protect them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.239.250.100 (talk) 02:27, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  NSA article 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In the article it claims he is being held "... at the Federal Correctional Institution, Memphis, in Tennessee" 
but according to https://www.freejeremy.net/ "(he) is currently serving his ten-year sentence at a medium-security federal prison in Manchester, Kentucky."
Which one is it? Kentucky or Tennessee? 
I feel the https://www.freejeremy.net/ source is more reliable than an "inmate finder", and will likely make the edit to the page if no-one finds any issue with this.
: Political prisoners are often moved around the country so it’s likely both at different times.  With some research you could probably pin down the dates he was at which prison if it’s relive the to the article. W1tchkr4ft 00 (talk) 18:30, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jail discrepancy  

message: — Assignment last updated by Aidand3132 (talk) 16:05, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Great. I will be happy to help if you need it and I am able. :) SP00KYtalk 16:55, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Issues in Technology and Security