Talk:Spix's macaw

message: It would be good to see a photograph of a Spix's macaw. Snowman 22:29, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is grate to see an image on the page now. Snowman 14:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Image

message: Can it be proven that this Macaw is extinct in the wild?
WebYoungProgrammerMsg me 14:25, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You can not prove that all swans are white, until you find a black one. Snowman (talk) 14:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Considering that these are flocking birds native to a restricted area, I think that you can do all but prove that they are EW. --Cynops3 (talk) 18:03, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I was talking about more of a proven reference that states the extinction status of the Spix Macaw. -- WebYoungProgrammerMsg me 05:44, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It states on the IUCN page that the last known wild macaw died in 2000. --Cynops3 (talk) 15:49, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Brazilian government agency IBAMA has stated that it has become extinct in wild after observing the only known specimen living in its natural habitat for more than a decade.  See:  "The Last Spix's Macaw Cyanopsitta Spixii Disappears from the Wild". http://www.worldtwitch.com/cyanopsitta.htm.  Evren Güldoğan (talk) 01:42, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Just read today that a re-introduction program from Schöneiche in Germany is showing encouraging signs of success. It is a highly sophisticated program which includes genetic testing for pairing and artificial insemination - one to observe - one to be a model.  2001:8003:A070:7F00:8003:28DB:8C42:79F6 (talk) 05:24, 11 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extinct? 

message: The article includes text copied from cited resources.  This is against Wikipedia guidelines as it is a violation of citation rules and might be a violation of copyright laws.  Would the original contributor please fix the problem?  Evren Güldoğan (talk) 01:46, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation vs. Copying 

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message: I apologize to the community for my "bold" editing of this page.  This article had inaccurate
numbers as well as substantial gaps in the History and Conservation chronologies, copied text from copyrighted sources, and composition issues (big paragraphs, out of sequence information, etc).
I inserted substantial information as well as reorganized existing content.  The net result is
better, but as either a historical or scientific essay, it's still weak.
An overarching theme associated with this bird is its extraordinary scarcity both in the wild 
and in aviculture.  That theme isn't apparent from reading the article.
Keeping that table up to date is an intractable problem - it's going to change every few months,
and we won't necessarily know until there's some press release that tells us, which may be months later.  It'll be inaccurate more often than it's accurate.  Do we really want to keep this kind of
detail?  I suggest we reduce the table to a single count of birds held at each organization/location.
This bird is one of only 5 all blue parrots (including Glaucous Macaw (extinct), Hyacinth Macaw, Lear's Macaw, Newton's Parakeet (extinct)); its "non-natural" color is a substantial part of the
reason it was coveted by collectors and hunted to extinction.  I attempted to add this information
to the Description section, and another editor deleted it.  It seems relevant to me, because the two
other remaining blue parrots are also endangered, and for the same reason.  Where does this 
information belong?
Additional information missing: lifespan, whether it talks, its temperament in aviculture.
Sbalfour (talk) 15:49, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision  of chronologies and table data 

message: Two unsourced and editorializing statements have appeared in the text of section Captive Population, with a combined total of 6 annotations:
* In recent years[when?], in Al Wabra, birds have reached sexual maturity at the age of 4–5 which is considered normal[according to whom?] and good semen quality and egg laying has been observed as early as 4 years of age.[citation needed]
* Currently efforts are ongoing to teach the Spix's parent to parent raise chicks and hopefully[editorializing] parent raising will become the norm in the future[when?].[citation needed]
I didn't add these (though 90+% of the article is mine), and can only find a blog entry essentially duplicating the inserted text to support the claims.  It'd be nice if they were true, and a worthy addition to the article, but until some editor can cite them properly, I'm going to delete them.
Sbalfour (talk) 21:42, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  deleting two unsourced/dubious statements 

message: I can't find the text in "Travels in Brazil" that sources Juniper's claim in "Spix's Macaw: The Race to Save the World's Rarest Bird" page 19, where he says that Spix shot a magnificent blue bird on the bank of the Rio Sao Francisco. I have another source that says Spix acquired his specimen (the holotype) from an anonymous donor after he returned to Germany.  Spix did indeed collect (presumably shot) a collection of birds while staying in Joazeiro in April 1819, but was the Spix's Macaw among them??  I'm still translating the German looking for the exact text. (Juniper has already made one verified factual error: Spix and Martius arrived and stayed in Joazeiro in April, 1819, not May.)
Sbalfour (talk) 20:35, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  scholarship issue: how did Spix acquire the holotype specimen? 

message: Re: Snowman's comments on the article in Sainsf's Talk page.  Well, these sections are a collection of facts.   I've renamed the Threats section (there can't be any threats if there aren't any birds left in the wild) to Extinction in the Wild and moved the section under History.  I intended History to be the birds history in the wild, and Conservation to be the bird's history in captivity (actions by conservationists, organizations and governments).  Captive population is
current status, and History in captivity (like an Epilogue to History section).  I'm open to suggestions; sainsf wants a more narrative style, instead of a littany of facts.  I agree.  What else?
Sbalfour (talk) 20:52, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I think most of my comments have been addressed, so I don't repeat them here. I believe the three sections are much better now, but I would like to know Snowman's opinion. It is not mandatory, but I would recommend more addition of details in Diet and Description. I feel these are vital sections and should be expanded a bit more. But that is if relevant data is available. Sainsf <^>Talk all words 05:06, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  amorphous sections Conservation and threats, Threats; History; Captive Population 

message: According to the Al Wabra Facebook page for Spix's Macaw, as of the end of 2015 breeding season, there are now 110 birds in the
captive breeding program, up from 84 listed in the article captive population table.  That would also mean there are at least
123 birds known or presumed to be alive, including birds in the hands of private owners not participating in the ICMBio breeding
program.  I'm also not sure that the pop counts were updated to account for the death of Presley in June, 2014.  Another elderly
Spix at Al Wabra may also have died in the last two years, but Al Wabra hasn't publicly commented on it.  Counts for Spix's held in private hands were last enumerated in 2012, and are likely higher now.Sbalfour (talk) 17:29, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Captive population counts are significantly out of date 

message: I've brightened the main photo being used in the infobox so that the bird is now more visible, and I've also uploaded two more photos of this species to Wikimedia Commons. One of them I have added to the article under the "Captive Population" heading. Putting thumbnails of them here for editors' consideration in case others decide they would be useful elsewhere in the article. GeoEvan (talk) 17:54, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update on Images 

message: Should the "In Popular Culture" section be in chronological order?, because it currently isn't.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ItsDaBunnyYT (talk • contribs) 19:35, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Popular Culture 

message: A 2020 Audubon article says that ACTP currently has more than 150 birds, after acquiring Qatar's collection.https://www.audubon.org/magazine/summer-2020/the-parrot-king --zandperl (talk) 01:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Captive population: Institutions / Locations 

message: Spix's macaw is actually back to the wild. 2402:4000:2081:847A:F1B7:9671:4A23:5C3B (talk) 12:42, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Except that, until the IUCN officially updates its conservation status, it can't be changed from "extinct in the wild" yet.--Mr Fink (talk) 14:29, 4 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Back 

message: Hello! I was just wondering, in the article for the Dead Parrot Sketch it says that the "Norwegian Blue" parrot is actually a Spix's Macaw, however here in the Popular Culture section of the Spix's Macaw article  it does not include this popular culture reference. Should we add it in the Popular Culture section here, or should we talk about deleting that it's "actually a Spix's Macaw" from the original article (Dead Parrot Sketch)? 2603:6000:B6F0:8BF0:8EB:A1D2:3DD4:728E (talk) 21:54, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular Culture- Adding the "Norwegian Blue" Episode 

message: I cant seem to find a proper source citing the 2022 batch which was released in the wild. I did however find this source citing "In 2022, 52 of the captive-raised birds were released into the wild." https://www.birdnote.org/listen/shows/return-extinct-little-blue-macaw 
Any other sources on this, which are reputable, should be included as a citation. 80.112.177.234 (talk) 21:52, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  2022 batch released into the wild