Talk:Walter Elliot (Scottish politician)

message: Not worthy of comment in the main article, but perhaps of interest to a passing researcher, might be his being mentioned in Tables of Content (1933), André L. Simon, #75: “Luncheon at the Office. 7 January 1932”, “Guests: Major Walter Elliot, Yeats Brown (Bengal Lancer), Louis Gautier, Francis Berry and Donald Wardley”. The vintage Ports—my interest—were exceptional. (My picture 9866.) JDAWiseman (talk) 20:28, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guest of André L. Simon  

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: No consensus for the move proposed   (t · c) buidhe 01:01, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  In the case of John Mackie, that would be ambiguous because of the existence of another British politician, John Mackie, Baron John-Mackie, while the same is true for Walter Elliot, given the existence of Walter Elliot (Conservative MP) (and the oddly titled Walter Elliot (naturalist), who in his time was acting Governor of the Madras Presidency. Thomas Hunter is a common name, but among politicians of the British Isles there's only the risk of confusion with Thomas Hunter (Irish politician), so "British" is the most natural disambiguator in this case. GPinkerton (talk) 19:46, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree with most of this and think it's all the more reason why "Scottish" and "Unionist" are misleading when put next to one another, in these instances. While it's true the minister in Chamberlain's cabinet could be called both Conservative and Unionist (capitals), the obscure MP can really only be called a unionist (small u) and a Conservative (big C). The Scot is described as the foremost exponent of the Unionist cause, so I've proposed that he be called "politician" rather than just "MP". "Scottish" isn't good for disambiguating, because the other Walter Elliot (the 19th century polymath and governor) was also from Scotland and also in politics (most notably the events of 1857-8). Party affiliation is surely the best option in this case, since he was so significant in the Unionist faction and the sources usually describe him as "Unionist", "coalition Unionist" or the like. GPinkerton (talk) 16:50, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 8 September 2020 

message: *Comment - Should be all changed to British politicians, as they were all members of the British Parliament. GoodDay (talk) 19:24, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  In the case of John Mackie, that would be ambiguous because of the existence of another British politician, John Mackie, Baron John-Mackie, while the same is true for Walter Elliot, given the existence of Walter Elliot (Conservative MP) (and the oddly titled Walter Elliot (naturalist), who in his time was acting Governor of the Madras Presidency. Thomas Hunter is a common name, but among politicians of the British Isles there's only the risk of confusion with Thomas Hunter (Irish politician), so "British" is the most natural disambiguator in this case. GPinkerton (talk) 19:46, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree with most of this and think it's all the more reason why "Scottish" and "Unionist" are misleading when put next to one another, in these instances. While it's true the minister in Chamberlain's cabinet could be called both Conservative and Unionist (capitals), the obscure MP can really only be called a unionist (small u) and a Conservative (big C). The Scot is described as the foremost exponent of the Unionist cause, so I've proposed that he be called "politician" rather than just "MP". "Scottish" isn't good for disambiguating, because the other Walter Elliot (the 19th century polymath and governor) was also from Scotland and also in politics (most notably the events of 1857-8). Party affiliation is surely the best option in this case, since he was so significant in the Unionist faction and the sources usually describe him as "Unionist", "coalition Unionist" or the like. GPinkerton (talk) 16:50, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey