Talk:Rock of Gibraltar

message: #REDIRECT Gibraltar should be here. Then this material can be moved to Gibraltar where it can be easily found partly in the Geology subsection and partly in the History subsection. Doesn't this make sense? Wetman 19:04, 10 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: No, no it really shouldn't. Saluton 20:40, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect

message: Shouldn't the racing horse 'Rock of Gibraltar' also be mentioned? The disagreements between the owner and Alex Ferguson did make lots of headlines. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.50.160.95 (talk) 08:35, 14 November 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess it could link to it. Saluton 20:40, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Race horse

message: Didn't John and Yoko get married on the rock? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.29.36.107 (talk) 12:04, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: They got married in Gibraltar - you know, the country (fine, Dependant Territory) which comprises the Rock and the bits of land on the side. Saluton 20:40, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: John and Yoko

message: Prudential Financial's logo is the rock of gibraltar. --71.250.76.146 02:40, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prudential Financial 

message: I have expanded the article and cited most unreferenced sections. Chris Buttigiegtalk 11:09, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Expansion

message: The opening paragraph says that the Greeks new the rock as Mons Calpe.  Mons Calpe is latin, why would the greeks call it by a latin name, when their legend of Hercules predates the advent of Rome?
Hercules, actually Heracles in this case (being in a Greek story and all) is mentioned in The Odyssey, which Homer dictated in the 7th century BC, so about 200 years before the traditional date of the founding of Rome.  I realize that Latin did not all of a sudden appear at the sme time the Romulus killed Remus (as legend would have it).  But, even if they did know about the language, it wasn't important enough culturally that they would not have a Greek term for it, eh?
Also, I realize that the Odyssey is probably not the first mentioning of Heracles, but I feel it's adequate to show prior existence of the term.
Could Caple be a transliteration of Greek?  Is it Καλπέ?
I found the following etymology here: 
"The Phoenicians called Gibraltar Calpe. In Aramaic/Phoenician the consonants in Cala meant Hollow and in Pietra meant stone, hence to them Calpe - Gibraltar (and other similar places) was the Hollow stone, probably a reference to the caves they found here at sea level."
perko 04:58, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is an interesting point you have brought up. If you have adequate references, feel free to change it. Chris Buttigieg 09:06, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greeks - Mons Calpe 

message: Is the Rock of Gibraltar a Morro? If so it should be added as a famous example. Fig 23:25, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeing as the Rock is neither made of granite nor quartz and isn't round in shape for that matter, I sincerely doubt it. It is best described as a rocky promontory. -- Chris B • talk 15:11, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For reference (six years later) a "morro" isn't actually a thing and that article should never have existed. It has now been deleted. — Scott • talk 23:08, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geology 

message: Seriously doubt that this was the case and need a much better reference.
:In ancient times the Rock of Gibraltar marked the limit to the known world and to pass beyond it was to sail to certain destruction over the bottomless waterfall at the edge of the world.Welcome To The Rock of Gibraltar! by costarsure.com
Roadrunner (talk) 16:24, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There are plenty of additional references. Have a look at the Gibraltar Museum's website for instance. A cursory Google search will also reveal a fair number of relevant sources. Chris.B 16:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious 

message: Prominent landmark at Gibraltar, with its own wiki article, a wiki'ed mosque, a wiki'ed Catholic shrine, etc.  --71.174.159.95 (talk) 23:19, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Europa Point]] missing 

message: Surely the main picture shows the east face, the photographer looking westward from east of the rock, as the summit is on the left, further away from spain? Or am I being incredibly dim? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.44.98.35 (talk) 20:11, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main picture mislabelled 

message: I have adjusted the geographic coordinates to more accurately reflect the peak of the rock.  The old coordinates were about 225 meters away, down the slope to the north and east.  But if there was something official about the old coordinates or if this edit is too OR-y for people's taste, feel free to revert. —Steve Summit (talk) 13:21, 2 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  adjusted coordinates 

message: In what sense is this true?
:... also known as the Jabel-al-Tariq (named after the Berber commander who conquered Spain) ...
In what language? According to whom? In whose world view? What Berber commander? How is this relevant in an English-language encyclopedia article? Conquered "Spain" when? Why does this article rely on some travel website as a source? Why does WP leave one with more questions than answers? Dynasteria (talk) 23:56, 25 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening sentence