Talk:Philip Larkin

message: Although we were able to put done tags on a lot of the issues from the Peer Review the following are still outstanding: almost-instinct 13:39, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues still outstanding from Peer Review 

message: Just to note there are few broken URLs in the article's references, perhaps jeopardizing its good article status (but the only thing preventing it from becoming an FA in my view). Sir Richardson (talk) 15:04, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for this. I've been through them all, and think these are all the dead ones: notes 45, 123, 132, 133, 139, 158, 159, 162. I'll work through them and find replacements asap. As for FA I would imagine the FAC reviewers would point to those issues still outstanding from the Peer Review. IMO it wouldn't take much work by someone equipped to deal with the issues. Yours, almost-instinct 15:27, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Two left to go. Am thinking that more up to date info is needed, not just a replacements for the links almost-instinct 09:31, 24 September 2011 (UTC)
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message: Is just one photo of the man sufficient ? Are there none available from when he was younger ? -- Beardo (talk) 08:16, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure - this was a while ago - but I believe that the people who were looking for photos found that ones without copyright issues were scarce. The article could definitely benefit from more photos of PL, if legitimate ones could be found. The lack of them explains all the pictures of buildings.... almost-instinct 10:49, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
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message: The first sentence of this article is a textbook example of the use of weasel words (pls see WP:WEASEL for explanation of weasel words). One can't just make a passive statement like "Larkin is widely regarded as one of the great English poets of the latter half of the twentieth century" without any attribution of this judgement. Otherwise, it simply expresses a contributors POV in the passive voice. Still, I think it's possible to communicate Larkin's importance as a poet without using weasel words. However, it would require editors to use actual references, preferrably with direct quotation/s.Jpcohen (talk) 05:22, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Very quick first reply: I thought that in line citations weren't supposed to be used in the lede? IIRC this was originally a quote from the Times' 50 Greatest Post-War Writers survey (?which placed him at number one) but I'll have to look closely at how it evolved. Meanwhile, pls could you make a suggested replacement? Thanks almost-instinct 22:12, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, here is what was originally in the opening paragraph back in April 2008: "Larkin is commonly regarded as one of the greatest English poets of the latter half of the twentieth century. In 2003 Larkin was chosen as "the nation's best-loved poet" in a survey by the Poetry Book Society[1] and in 2008 The Times named Larkin as the greatest post-war writer[2]." The information in the second of those sentences has been moved away, leaving the first sentence on its own and looking unqualified. What would be the best way/s of using this information and/or rewriting the sentence to reflect this and correct the inadvertently created problem? almost-instinct 13:22, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I would change the first sentence of the lede to something very simple like "Philip Larkin was an English poet and novelist." It looks like the lede already contains praise for Larkin as Poet Book Society's "best-loved poet" and The Times "greatest post-war writer" at the end of the lede. I think that would probably be a sufficient amount of praise, don't you?Jpcohen (talk) 16:14, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: To tell the truth I've never looked at the guidelines for ledes and I think I'm right in saying that I've never edited this one. There was a stage a couple of years ago when there was some very intense discussion about what should be there (re: the contraversial elements) Normally when starting an article I do very plain first sentences like one you suggested; if anyone thinks that putting in a plain opening sentence undoes the balance that took some effort to be agreed on, could they pipe up, please? almost-instinct 16:38, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: PS now I come to look over it, it seems to me that the second sentence could benefit from being cut in half. almost-instinct 16:40, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weasel Words In Opening Sentence

message: A translation of this page on the Spanish Wikipedia has just been awarded Featured Article status. The irony of this is ... well, something ;-) almost-instinct 13:03, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
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message: There is discussion starting at Talk:Patsy Strang on what to do with Patsy Strang and Monica Jones. Merge them here into a dedicated section (Larkin's personal relationships?), merge them together into a standalone article Philip Larkin's women?, leave them as they are, or simply redirect the titles here? SilkTork ✔Tea time 13:32, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've posted my thoughts on that talkpage almost-instinct 15:29, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  There is now Relationships that influenced Philip Larkin, which should be linked to in this article on the man.211.225.33.104 (talk) 01:09, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is linked through Patsy Strang but I have put a  at the start of the section to make it more obvious. Keith D (talk) 11:09, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Larkin's women

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message: This article, in quite an early section, gives the title of one of Larkin's works as "All What Jazz", but I thought that it was called "All That Jazz". Vorbee (talk) 08:29, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The book given is  which is ""All What Jazz". Keith D (talk) 15:41, 30 July 2017 (UTC)

text: It's mentioined  here and it's for sale e.g. here. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:53, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
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message: " In Hawkes's view, "Larkin's poetry ... revolves around two losses": the "loss of modernism", which manifests itself as "the desire to find a moment of epiphany", and "the loss of England, or rather the loss of the British Empire, which requires England to define itself in its own terms when previously it could define 'Englishness' in opposition to something else."[93]" and the phrase "loss of modernism" is unclear. Further down the article says that Larkin not unwillingly acquired a reputations as "an enemy of modernism". So why would his poetry revolve around the loss of something he hated? And what would that even mean? The reference is to a hard copy book that I can't consult. How about a quote from the book long enough that readers can see from the context what "modernism" refers to here? Arctic Gazelle (talk) 18:37, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaning of "loss of modernism" needs clarification. 

message: Lots of overlap between the two articles. Randykitty (talk) 19:00, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose seems excessively long and detailed to merge into the main Larkin article. Jahaza (talk) 19:08, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It's "excessively long and detailed" because it repeats a lot of the main article and because it contains a lot of trivial stuff... --Randykitty (talk) 19:47, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, then edit the article down to something that should be merged. Jahaza (talk) 20:18, 19 January 2023 (UTC)

text: Oppose not really suitable for dumping in the main article. It is fine as a separate article. Keith D (talk) 01:34, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[Larkin 25]] into [[Philip Larkin]] 

message: There is a brief mention that Larkin worked for the university library for thirty years, but nothing is said about when he retired or why. Very odd that such an omission has survived in a Featured Article. Moonraker (talk) 11:26, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems he never did retire. This source says "" Martinevans123 (talk) 12:11, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Also this: "" Regards. Martinevans123 (talk) 14:22, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

text: He never retired, he died in office as librarian although had been progressively more and more ill for a while.   Andy Dingley (talk) 13:46, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: When did Larkin retire as a librarian?