Talk:Red heifer

message: "Cedar wood, hyssop, and scarlet are added to the fire".  How do you add a color to a fire?  I doubt the link should be to scarlet (cloth).  ?  dbenbenn | talk 14:51, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Color to a fire?

message: I removed the follow:
:According to the Islamic traditions, a person among the jews in the times of Moses killed another (probably his own paternal uncle) in order to seize his wealth and property as well as marry his daughter. No one could detect the murderer as the murderer himself was the man to seek justice. Then Almighty Allah ordered them to slaughter any heifer. As the jews of that time were habitual of raising unnecessary questions from the Prophet Moses, they started asking the nature, colour and charcteristics of the heifer. Their unnecesary questions limited them to slaughter one specific heifer, which they thought to be a sacred one. Thus, they had to slaughter it though half-heartedly. The piece of that slaughtered heifer was touched to the corpse of the murdered man, who got up for some moment, indicated his murderer and cause of murder and died again immediately. The name of second chapter of the Holy Qur'an has been taken after that red heifer under the title "The Heifer". (Quoted in "Allah, Adam and Serpent" by Mujtaba Haider Zaidi Advocate:2007)
it was added by both 117.102.44.73 (talk · contribs) and Mzaidi (talk · contribs).  I do not think that the paragraph adds to the article.  Jon513 13:33, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the root of that story came from the fact Red is spelled like Man.  Later annotations were to bring unity to a people through inciting hatred. CheskiChips (talk) 07:31, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sounds like they confused the Red Heifer up with the  Eglah Arufa . Pedantrician (talk) 19:23, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  removed paragraph 

message: There was mention of two Red Heifers born in Israel in the 1990's. One later grew a few dark hairs and was disqualified and it is not clear what happened to the other one. Something similar happened after the year 2000. This too is vague and somewhat mysterious.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.143.237.213 (talk) 16:42, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: can you find any news articles about it? Jon513 (talk) 17:18, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Here's a good source to expand upon this topic.  I would edit the article myself but am not sure how.  http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/apocalypse/readings/forcing.html.  PicturesofDoodie (talk) 14:15, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Modern day Red Heifers

message: Could anyone please assist me in locating information on the discovery of the site of the burning of the Red Heifer on the Mount of Olives that has been tentatively located by archaeologist Yonatan Adler? This is mentioned in the article but I have been unable to locate any further information about this. Any information at all would be highly appreciated. Thank you. CWatchman (talk) 18:21, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Site of the burning of the Red Heifer tentatively located by Adler 

message: if only 9 heifers were so sacrificed, does that mean that this purification ritual only happened 9 times in history, and people were fine without it at other times? Or did they stockpile the ash from each sacrifice for use in small quantities in the subsequent rituals? 76.24.104.52 (talk) 22:41, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: An amount of the ashes was mixed with pure water (which is a whole other story in itself).  The ash/water mixture was saved in the Temple in a pure vessel, and used over again. Pedantrician (talk) 19:26, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: the ash water mixture was not saved.  the ashes where saved and mixed with spring water based on need for immediate use.--Marecheth Ho'eElohuth (talk) 19:37, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was this ritual optional or were the ashes stockpiled for use over the centuries? 

message: Why Red Heifer? In ictu oculi (talk) 06:05, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone thought it was a proper name, but it isn't.  I moved it. If there is a problem about it being too general (but who else would care about red heifers at all except in this context?), then a more expansive name like "Red heifer in Judaism" could be used. Zerotalk 15:01, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Capitalisation

message: Jason Olson's article The red heifer in Israeli Judaism would add quite a lot of reliable information to this page. Zerotalk 15:03, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good source