Talk:Pritikin diet

message: I feel a need for links to be added to the end of this article, and references. Most of the information could be considered credible however, because there is no information that has been referenced it unfortunately means nothing.
Articles that critically analyze this method should be added alongside articles for this diet (although the latter has to be moderated by the criticism). Statistics such as percentage of successful candidates and the average time frame for successful weight loss is a must, what should also be added with this is how many people after finishing this diet have gone back to their old (baseline) weight (yoyo).
: anecdotal evidence: http://www.soilandhealth.org/02/0201hyglibcat/020121horne/020121ch2.html Rolet de Castella, 60, business executive and father of world champion marathon runner, Robert de Castella - Robert de Castella, a.k.a. Deek is extremely well known in Australia as a marathon runner. i had thought that his father's story - see the link - about completely reversing badly blocked arteries was also famous, but i couldn't find much with google. While it's only anecdotal evidence, Deek's fame should be enough to include it, but i'd sort of prefer something a bit more serious looking and not just have this anecdote.
: The best articles i found so far on www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov only have titles - that's not really much use except to prove that someone did research about the Pritikin diet without letting anyone (except those with subscriptions) know about the results. Here are some that do have abstracts:
:*  effects of diet similar to Pritikin (American Health Association) on physiological parameters like HDL levels
:* meta-study of medical literature in more or less relation to Pritikin Diet
:* doesn't refer to Pritikin by name, but rather to low-fat, high complex-carbohydrate, regular exercise effect on people older than 70 yrs
: There should be some existing wikipedia articles about the effects of low-fat, high complex-carbohydrate diet and regular exercise on various physiological parameters. No need to double up between the two articles. Boud 22:14, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
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message: This page states that the diet includes "lean meat, and seafood" but goes on to say "the Pritkin diet, a strict vegetarian diet". Which of these is correct? -- Wallsy (talk) 09:45, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Vegetarian?

message: * http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+AHA+diet&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0
--222.67.209.8 (talk) 08:21, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red links in the ''See also'' section are based on the following... 

message: * http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+Pritikin+diet&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0
--222.67.209.8 (talk) 08:29, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pritikin diet....recent reviews...??? 

message: This article has a number of issues, as outlined in the above.  It lacks any critic info, which I am sure is out there.  Really, although I reckon Pritikin and his diet IS notable, this page and that for Pritikin himself does not deserve to exist without sufficient link/refs to demonstrate its Notability.
IceDragon64 (talk) 14:26, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rough 

message: Is it just me, or does this seem to be written a bit like an advert?  --Lamb104 (talk) 15:32, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Lamb104 thanks. We are working to address this issue. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:27, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advert? 

message: I am requested that "fad diet" be removed from the Pritikin Diet page because it is not correct. How can a diet be considered a "fad" when the federal government has approved the Pritikin Diet and Exercise as Medicare-approved cardiac rehabilitation for hospitals nationwide?  
I have also attempted to add more citations from peer-reviewed research, but every time I do so, they are deleted. 
Please help with this situation. Thank you. Genie Killoran (talk) 16:56, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact it's a fad diet is well-sourced and so must stay. Any medical claims need to be backed by WP:MEDRS sources; primary research is insufficient. See you talk page too: there are some disclosures you must make per WP:PAID. Alexbrn (talk) 17:06, 25 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 July 2017 

message: Wikipedia editors: Please change the first section ("The Pritikin Diet is a controversial fad diet...") to the following:
The Pritikin Diet forms part of the "Pritikin Program For Diet and Exercise," a lifestyle regimen for heart health originally created by Nathan Pritikin. The 1979 book describing the diet became a best-seller.1McFadden, Robert D. (23 February 1985). "Nathan Pritikin, whose diet many used against heart ills". The New York Times.  In 2010, the Centers For Medicare & Medicaid Services approved the Pritikin Program for Intensive Cardiac Rehabilitation.2https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Medicare-General-Information/MedicareApprovedFacilitie/ICR.html
Wikipedia editors: In the second section ("Reception") please add the following information after this sentence: "In 1982 Consumer Reports said that marketing efforts by the The Pritikin Longevity Centers had gained the diet some popularity, despite the lack of support for it among scientists."
However, since then scientists have published several studies documenting the Pritikin Program's ability to lower modifiable risk factors for cardiovascular disease, including high LDL cholesterol,3https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2064490 high blood pressure,4https://www.http://jap.physiology.org/content/98/1/3 and high glucose levels.5https://http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1559-4564.2006.05732.x/abstract
1.  McFadden, Robert D. (23 February 1985). "Nathan Pritikin, whose diet many used against heart ills". The New York Times.
2.  https://www.cms.gov/Medicare/Medicare-General-Information/MedicareApprovedFacilitie/ICR.html
3.  https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2064490
4.  https://www.http://jap.physiology.org/content/98/1/3
5.  https://http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1559-4564.2006.05732.x/abstract
Genie Killoran (talk) 16:57, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The first medical ref there is a primary source and is not OK per WP:MEDRS.  I cannot access the other two links so I cannot evaluate them. Please read WP:MEDHOW to learn how to format citations and re-propose but please make sure that refs about medical evidence comply with MEDRS.  Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 17:11, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request edit on 26 July 2017