Template talk:Category diffuse

message: This template was created in the spirit of WP:ʃ. Cwolfsheep 23:15, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creation notice 

message: *catdiffuse is a bad idea.  the reason it is a bad idea is because not everyone categorizes things the same way because they don't think of them the same way.  large top categories catch this fault in human cognizance.   I think forcing subcategorization and the ongoing tendency to remove redundant categories is causing havok at many levels.   I think the template should be referred to policy.--Buridan 11:16, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message:  should be used for one-time cleanup;  should be used if people are likely to keep adding to the category; category tagging is pointless for template-driven categories that cannot be recategorized. Cwolfsheep 02:31, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three-prong approach to category sorting 

message: Would it be OK if I removed the phrase "to avoid becoming too large" from the template.  Some categories require diffusion, while others should be large lists anyway.  This may also solve Samuel Wantman's problems with this template.  Dr. Submillimeter 13:31, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would suggest adding text to  about placing articles in the subcategories.  Some categories still need to be diffused.  Dr. Submillimeter 21:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is an option to add a line that says "Articles about <<parameter>> can be found in the subcategories." In the example posted in :Category:Computer languages it says "Articles about specific languages can be found in the subcategories."  Is it enough to say that the articles "can be found" in the subcategories?  I should hope that our editors can understand that "can be found" also means "should be put".  I'd rather word these templates for the benefit of the person browsing the category, rather than the person doing the categorization.  Some categories seem to have comprehensive instructions on categorization.  These should either be on the talk page, or there could be a link in the templates I've proposed that would open up detailed instructions on categorization for the editor. Do you think that is needed? -- Samuel Wantman 01:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I like your suggestion.  However, I think some categories will also need broad warnings that the categories need maintenance, in which case  will be needed.  Perhaps both types of templates can be used?   Perhaps someone else can comment? Dr. Submillimeter 10:31, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If CatDiffuse were reworded and placed on the talk pages of categories along with a Category type tag, I wouldn't have a problem with it in some cases.  I don't think it should be used with large index categories.  Depopulating of large categories should be discussed.  -- Samuel Wantman 08:43, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modification 

message: I've created an alternative to CatDiffuse that I think is much more user friendly, and not as self-referential.  I'm not sure many editors are going to understand what "diffuse" means.  The atlernative I created is called .  It is intended for topics that are meant to contain articles yet have the more specific articles diffused to the subcategories.  The way I've stated this, it also helps someone using the category for browsing.  I've installed it at :Category:Computer languages.  There is also some other varieties of templates for labeling categories at Wikipedia:Category types. -- Samuel Wantman 08:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would suggest adding text to  about placing articles in the subcategories.  Some categories still need to be diffused.  Dr. Submillimeter 21:03, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is an option to add a line that says "Articles about <<parameter>> can be found in the subcategories." In the example posted in :Category:Computer languages it says "Articles about specific languages can be found in the subcategories."  Is it enough to say that the articles "can be found" in the subcategories?  I should hope that our editors can understand that "can be found" also means "should be put".  I'd rather word these templates for the benefit of the person browsing the category, rather than the person doing the categorization.  Some categories seem to have comprehensive instructions on categorization.  These should either be on the talk page, or there could be a link in the templates I've proposed that would open up detailed instructions on categorization for the editor. Do you think that is needed? -- Samuel Wantman 01:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I like your suggestion.  However, I think some categories will also need broad warnings that the categories need maintenance, in which case  will be needed.  Perhaps both types of templates can be used?   Perhaps someone else can comment? Dr. Submillimeter 10:31, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If CatDiffuse were reworded and placed on the talk pages of categories along with a Category type tag, I wouldn't have a problem with it in some cases.  I don't think it should be used with large index categories.  Depopulating of large categories should be discussed.  -- Samuel Wantman 08:43, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: An alternative?

message: Since this is a maintenance tag it should be a hidden category rather than giving the warning notice in the category itself. -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 04:15, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Make a hidden category 

message: I think a reference to subcategories should be in this template (italics new):
—Eekerz (t) 20:23, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've lowered the protection so you can make the edit yourself, if you wish. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:14, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. —Eekerz (t) 14:17, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed your addition. Moving sub-categories to other sub-categories is relevant to every category, meaning this template should theoretically be placed on every category page. McLerristarr | Mclay1 13:04, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference to subcat diffusion 

message: Given the message in this template and that editors are a very small subset of the total WP readership I feel that this template should be less obtrusive. I would like to see it in a similar style to the interwiki boxes such as  (although I would like to see an even lower visibility than that!). -- Alan Liefting (talk) - 05:07, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Make smaller and move to the right 

message: I noticed that on the page :Category:Service companies of the United States, the interwikis (which are valid) showed up as red links within the body of the page rather than in the nav column on the left. I realised that the problem must be caused by the template  and removed the parameter; after that, the page displays normally. 
Template:Catdiffuse is one of many pages that redirects here.  
Please can someone who understands parsing (i) fix this template to avoid problems when a parameter is added, (ii) add documentation on what the parameter is for and how/when to use it? – Fayenatic (talk) 18:41, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't replicate the problem, I think, if the interwikis were showing red, that it may be related to the bug described here: WP:VPT#Killer whale: what has gone wrong with the interwikis on this page? But I'll still check the cat suppress function, but I'll have to do it later on today when I have a chance. --Funandtrvl (talk) 18:52, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, right, it does look as if it was a symptom of that wider caching issue, which I hadn't noticed elsewhere. Good, consider it fixed. My part (ii) might still be useful, though. – Fayenatic (talk) 19:12, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem with parameters 

message: The notice box has been removed today with the justification "It is an editor tool so a hidden cat is all that is needed." I propose to reinstate the box as it is useful, particularly as it is different from . – Fayenatic London (talk) 13:51, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notice box 

message: I've proposed a few things at Template talk:Container category that should hopefully address some ongoing concerns. SFB 10:42, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Container v Catdiffuse v New template 

message: There should be a way to combine boxes when more than one of the following templates appears on the same page:
*Template:Category diffuse
*Template:Non-diffusing parent category
*Template:Non-diffusing subcategory
As it stands now the boxes take up way too much valuable space on the top of the category page. See for example: :Category:Scientists Ottawahitech (talk) 13:48, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Combining diffusing and non-diffusing boxes?