Talk:Microphone/Archive 1

message: Do you guy think it would be appopriate to ad thhat a speaker, like a small earphone, can be used as   a microphone. If so where.
Dosman
I think this needs some work on how sound waves are put into it and how the inside flexes creating electrical signals.. --Cyberman 02:25, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe as a parenthetical comment or an aside, but let's not lose sleep over including this in the article, because while they can be used, speakers (and other electrical-to-sound transducers) make shitty microphones. (They are used, for example, in low-quality intercoms, where the speaker also serves as the microphone, which must save the manufacturer several pennies.)  ==ILike2BeAnonymous 03:45, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've heard of respectable recording studios using loudspeakers as kick drum mics... — Omegatron 00:33, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that might be plausible; I could see how a woofer, placed close to a bass drum, might make a pretty good pickup. If you can find any sources for that, I'd say put it in the article. ==ILike2BeAnonymous 00:37, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  When I saw it, it was a do-it-yourself thing, but it looks like Yamaha has made a product out of it. — Omegatron 00:56, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I created a new section ("Speakers as microphones") and used your link to illustrate this use. ==ILike2BeAnonymous 01:17, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've heard of people using studio monitor headphones (like Sony MDR 7506's) as kick drum microphones, but I'm not familiar enough with the practice to add it to the article.  kmccoy (talk) 01:43, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Earphones as microphones

message: I would very like to see some information about how to understand in layman's term the various specs of a microphone. For instance right now I am trying to figure out if a -44dB mike is more sensitive than a -58dB one. I would guess so, and according to this web site, it would be twice more sensitive. But I am a little lost :-)
: I have extended the Measurements and Specifications section to include descriptions of common specs, without getting too technical. I hope this helps! Robin726 15:03, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Specs 

message: I've added a reference to 468-weighting, as I've recently created a page on this. As well as being the preferred weigting for subjective validity it makes mic measurements easier as it is much less affected by low frequency noise. Measuring mic noise, especially on omnis is normally very difficult because of the need for extraordinarily quiet surroundings, and the effect low frequency pressure variations from wind can have. I'd like to see 468-weighting used a lot more. I've made other changes, and as with previous comments I'm not sure the various categories are sorted out properly yet.
Lindosland 12:40, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  ITU-R 468 noise weighting 

message: This article states that "Emile Berliner invented the first microphone", but the Emile Berliner states that he "invented an improved telephone transmitter". Is this a contradiction? --Sean Brunnock 16:55, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Berliner 

message: I don't know enough to begin to write this, but something on the history of the microphone would be good. For example, in working on the article on Udi Hrant Kenkulian I came across the fact that the electronic microphone dates from 1927. I'm sure there is a lot of other chronology that should be added to this article. - Jmabel | Talk 03:54, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: I'm new here in Wikipedia so I'm not quite sure how to add the corresponding sections.
I think here should be explained the technical issues about impedance on microphones, when to use a transformer, types of connections (XLR, plug, etc). And explain something about the cables.
I've also created an article about wireless microphones. I think this article should mention something about them.--Lenilucho 19:09, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Connection and technical electric information 

message: Please add that when connecting a microphone to the computer, it is usually connected to the pink coloured connector thingymabob.
: That's covered under Sound_card#Connections.  Does it belong here, too? — Omegatron 00:36, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Computer 

message: The material on A/B, X/Y, ORTF and other techniques of recording is not really about microphones as such; it's about how to make stereo recordings, and much of it is already included in the article on Stereophonic sound. I propose to remove it from this article. Do people agree with that idea? -- DSatz 18:31, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Material on stereophonic recording techniques is not really about microphones 

message: Maybe this article should mention, with an illustration, the three or more (?) main types of microphone jacks (esp. the male parts). - Samsara (talk • contribs) 10:05, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They all seemed to be mentioned in the connectors section, with links to articles on each with pictures, or did you mean something else? pschemp | talk 14:10, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plugs? 

message: We could do with a few examples of some studio and live sound standards, photos of which I would happily take and provide. For example, under dynamic mikes, where is a photo of the Shure SM57, the podium mike of the President if the US for the last 30 years? 
Added image of SM57 Iain 19:06, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mike examples 

message: I removed the comment about dynamic mirophones having poor low frequency response. This is not inherent to a dynamic microphone. For example, the Shure Beta52, Beyer MT88, AKG D112 etc are all used to record kick drum and other low frequency instruments. Iain 19:05, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dynamic Microphone Low Frequency resposnse 

message: To the admins:
Users have added many microphone informational resources, why cannot I add one myself? I wish to submit www.themicrophonevault.com as an educational resource of vintage microphones as well as current microphones.  The microphonevault is intended to serve as an educational resource and extremely comprehensive. There are photographs of microphones, user comments, and lenghty descriptions. If this site is not allowed or does not meet the standards of being listed under the "MICROPHONE" section, then why is a DJ Forum (which is nearly completely irrelevant to the subject of MICROPHONES) and a "personal" site, countant.org on the links??? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.215.58.249 (talk • contribs) 19:18, 2 August 2006
:First of all, why are you addressing your complaints to "the admins"? Are you trying to get authority to rush to your defense here?
:Secondly, probably none of those links should be here. +ILike2BeAnonymous 19:37, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have just a spare moment to make a comment on this topic. I have surfed http://www.themicrophonevault.com/rcaPB3.php and http://www.coutant.org/pb31/ and I don't like what I see! (In my opinion) The Microphone Vault page appears to be a lift. Further I question the copyright on content and photographs at both sites until someone can look into it. Wikipedians need to be careful, please see WP:Copyrights : 1.2 "Linking to copyrighted works". U.S. copyrights after 1923 are still valid. --Charles Gaudette 17:49, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: adding a link

message: The condenser microphone was invented in 1916 by E. C. Wente at Bell Labs. The moving-coil, or "dynamic" microphone was developed by W. C. Wente and A. C. Thuras at Bell Labs in the late 1920's, and was patented in 1931.
http://history.acusd.edu/gen/recording/microphones2.html
Many of the excellent condenser recording mics prized today come from the fifties --more history here:
http://history.acusd.edu/gen/recording/microphones4.html
Decide for yourself - but this does not agree with article.  --G. Beat 19:55, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Correct dates?

message: In the early part of the 20th century when this technology was being developed, the word "condenser" was used for what are now called capacitors.  Even electrolitic capacitors were called condensers.  There is a similar problem with transmitter/microphone and plumbago/graphite.  To avoid confusion, it is better to use current terminology.  I reverted condenser to capacitor.  Greensburger 01:05, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Except that it's irrelevant in this context, because practically everyone calls them "condenser", not capacitor, regardless of correctness. (Check the literature if you don't believe me.) I'm reverting back. +ILike2BeAnonymous 01:07, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Condenser/Capacitor

message: IANA Electrical or Audio Engineer.  Can someone with a bit more knowledge comment on the following?  
* In the article, it says "Sinus wave" (use your search function to find it).  I think this is wrong, but IANAAE.  
* In the THD section, it says "The higher the value, the better".  I suspect that this is referring to the dB number next to the THD number, but it's not clear.  My understanding is that you want the THD percentage to be low.    
-- TimNelson 06:25, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible corrections? 

message: Although 's addition clearly violated WP:EL, I think that http://www.dpamicrophones.com/page.php?PID=1&LANG=3 is a good information source. However, it may be more appropriate on a page about audio recording than this page. Han-Kwang 21:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  DPA external link