Talk:Loudonville, New York

message: I am unsure of the inclusion of the following:
Law and government
Although Loudonville is officially a hamlet within the Town of Colonie, it is often said that Chris Kuthy needs a better way to spend his free time.''
Who is Chris Kuthy and who makes this statement??
Mimistar 23:46, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I have been deleting and tracking this article (Loudonville,New York) for a while now, and have been noticing that vanity entries are being placed under the "famous native" section of the article. 
The names of: Brittney Ensign, and Claire Littlefield come to mind as the names (or the friends of) the vandals of the Loudonville page.
I encourage wikipedians to delete vanity entries and report the IP addresses or the usernames of these users to the administration for a possible block from wikipedia, which they deserve.
Thanks
RRM MBA 22:17, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandals using this article for vanity purposes 

message: I guess since several of the places in this article that are listed as being in Loudonville are actually in Newtonville we should change the name of the article altogether.  Neither Siena College, the school offices, or the town hall are in Loudonville, regardless of what zip code they use for mail delivery.  Zip code boundaries dont reflect any real boundaries and Newtonville does have its own zip code in which all those places are in.  Newtonville however only does PO Boxes, and therefore Loudonville does the deliver for any place that needs "home" delivery.  Generally Burton Ave (a side street off NY route 9 just north of Menand Road) is the southern boundary of Newtonville (northern boundary of Loudonville).  Anything north of this is Newtonville until the split off of Old Loudon Road from NY route 9 where Latham begins.  Also the Albany International Airport (which also uses a Loudonville ZIP Code), is not in Loudonville, it was built on top of the Shaker community and is still considered to be a part of the historic Shaker area (one would never say that the Heritage Park or Ann Lee's home was in Loudonville).  Newtonville does need its own page considering what it has plus the unmentioned Pruyn House museum.Camelbinky 22:17, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newtonville? 

message: I dont understand the reference posted for the statement that Loudonville has amongst the highest property values in the area. I also dont think it is a reliable source. But that is my opinion and I will not remove another person's sources without giving them time to defend them. If no one comes with a defence in 7 days I'll remove the reference and put the  template back.Camelbinky (talk) 05:16, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newly added reference 

message: I've removed this section, as it gives undue weight to just one 20-year old anecdote about PO boxes, which is described as a 'rumour' in the source. The employee quoted even said it wasn't common. 
Camelbinky has attempted to read my mind on this elsewhere, but his speculation is nonsense. It may be worth having some material on Loudonville's reputation, but this stuff about PO boxes is just trivial. --hippo43 (talk) 22:49, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Im not going to "discuss" this with you. You do not know how to discuss anything per our prior disagreements. It is not a discussion you want, it is drama. Just leave it alone and stop judging other people's edits. This section in the article is not harmful, it is not against wikipedia policy, it is properly cited. You are being disruptful and have not attempted to benefit this article in anything you have done to it, whether it be about Siena College or when you attempted to call it a "town" when it is not a town, or when you wanted a source that actually called it a hamlet. You do not have the authority to go around judging other's contributions. Stick to your own contributions and ADD things to articles YOU ACTUALLY KNOW ABOUT. When can can discuss things by TALKING TO ME, and not to an invisible audience and playing up to them, then I may reconsider. Your above post shows you still have not learned how to discuss. "Camelbinky has attempted to read my mind..." blah blah blah, dont talk ABOUT ME, if you want to discuss something WITH me. Who are you even talking TOO? Playing to an audience is immature and a waste of time. If a third, fourth, or fifth person comes in, they can read the discussion BETWEEN you and I and catch up, THEN you should TALK TO THEM AS WELL. I will not sit here while you attempt to manipulate in advance opinions of people who can make up their own minds on their own. You are the only one who has undid my edit. Obviously no one else cares to. Leave it. I'm not going to discuss this further.Camelbinky (talk) 11:24, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please address the issue of notability. Why is this minor anecdote being used to justify a whole section in the article? Can you maybe find a better source which describes Loudonville's reputation? I'm not the only person to remove this cruft, or the first - see . The article has benefited from having this trivia removed. --hippo43 (talk) 20:31, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: An IP address, hmmm, sorry if I dont take at face value that it wasnt you. I have no more good faith towards you. How would you know if this article has been improved by its removal? You havent contributed anything beneficial to it. You dont contribute to any CD article, please stick to articles you know about. I am not going to talk to you about this. I dont have to justify any contribution to you. Leave articles alone that you have no knowledge about and leave them to those that care about the topic. I AM NOT DISCUSSING THIS WITH YOU FURTHER.Camelbinky (talk) 21:08, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Your refusal to address the question of notability does you no favours. I suggest you read WP:OWN. You don't own this article, or other CD articles, and your statements about what I do or don't know are ill-informed and arrogant. I suggest you put aside your feelings and discuss the issue itself. --hippo43 (talk) 22:53, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Now the page has been un-protected, I won't revert it right away. If there is no discussion of how we can create a better 'Reputation' section, or of the notability of this one anecdote, I'll remove it in a couple of days. --hippo43 (talk) 17:19, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reputation section 

message: For those who were interested, here's a mpa of the 1990 Loudonville CDP. 
Also, here it is zoomed in and centered on the location of Siena College, which according to the key appears just outside of the City of Loudonville. (These cities undoubtedly correspond with actual cities, villages, and CDPs.) --JBC3 (talk) 21:22, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: JBC3 if you are still interested in making that category on "Former CDP's in New York" we can use those maps as a basis of finding new ones. Obviously we've got Loudonville, but then based on that map we now know Latham as well, and Roessleville too. So we just need non-map sources that state they were CDP's in 1990, but not in 2000, though in my opinion we dont need one source for both, one source saying a place was a CDP in 1990 and then another source saying it isnt a CDP in 2000 should be enough. Then we can start finding more and get that category done. I just dont know what you want to do about CDP's that lose their status, and then get it back again, example- say Loudonville in the 2010 census is made a CDP again, do we then have to every 10 years go through and take away the former CDP category classification from articles, oh or we can then start a "Former former-CDP's in New York" category! That would be fun and amusing! If you want we can start a page off the New York wikiproject and start listing former CDP's and the sources for them until we get enough to start the category.Camelbinky (talk) 21:44, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

text: I noticed that too. That's why I didnt mention anything about using it to say Siena College isnt in Newtonville. It is also why I dont like when editors assume and edit in a way that makes hamlets and CDP's seem like they are the same thing. There are lots of CDP's that take up 2 or more hamlets, even in their name. I wish hamlet and CDP articles would be separate instead of hamlet articles being labelled as "also a CDP", and vice versa. Hadley-Luzerne is a CDP that is made up of two hamlets even in the title. I would like to point out the student (I think he said he was a student) that mentioned (a little too late) that he always thought Siena was in Newtonville, so the old argument "this is being debated only on wikipedia, not the real world" is a bit lost now. But no reason in bringing all this up. The map was informative and something good to share, we shouldnt debase its use by bringing up old arguments.Camelbinky (talk) 21:04, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Loudonville CDP (1990) 

message: Please bring the content dispute here. --John (talk) 15:21, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Discussion is above --hippo43 (talk) 20:32, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected