Talk:Power Rangers Mystic Force

message: Why on earth is this page using such a format?  In the interests of catering to our internationl readers, I always prefer to write out the entire date instead of getting into edit wars and confusion over the numerical DD-MM or MM-DD format (like if it's supposed to be March 2 or February 3).  Today, however, that edit was blindly reverted (even though I had done other work, such as proseifying the damn trivia section), so I'm wondering about it. Hbdragon88 06:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: m:Dynamic dates Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh, and when you rewrote the trivia section you accidentally blanked several other sections in the process. Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  YYYY-MM-DD? 

message: Let's wait for this episode to air before we start putting Leanbow all over the Ranger sections and removing him from the allies sections, okay? —Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether or not the promo shows Leanbow morphing is not the issue. The fact is that it hasn't occured in the show, yet, and we don't know any sort of information relating to this "news". How long will it be until the ep airs, anyway? A week?  Two weeks? The wiki'll be fine for another week without information that plasters Mr Leanbow all over these pages :P —Ryūlóng (竜龍) 05:55, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Koragg/Leanbow/Defender blah 

message: Sorry, can't really explain what I mean in the small area they give. The Promo for the finale stated that it would take a week starting November 6th to tell it all. Now, The Return MUST air on the 30th of October, as if the marathon starts the 6th, then chances are, it will start with the first episode again, not with a new episode. Which leaves the only open monday (as said in "The Return" Promo), the 30th., Mystic Fate may in fact air on the 13th, but as the promo said the 6th, should be put there until jetix confirms or denies it as the start of the marathon, or the airdate of the finale. If the 30th, The return does not appear, it will be changed to November 6th, as it could possibly air along with the finale, which, if the finale is confirmed to be at the end of the marathon (if there is one, and not just the finale), the date will be changed to the 13th, which would be the next logical point. Hopefully you all understand what I just wrote LOL. (Ryulong, not violating what you said, but Jetix itself released the promos, until proven false by airing on TV, we have to keep it posted, as Jetix has made a major amount of mistakes on their website before, i.e. when they post the wrong episodes, or when they posted an episode for an hour, then it was broken for like 3 days.) Myzou 23:58, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: New 30 sec promo confirmed the 6th is the start of the marathon and what exactly it is, and stated week long, therefore, the finale is to air on the 13th. Promo can be found here soon, as soon as it's done processing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsVmBIip4UA Myzou 04:51, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Still no CONFIRMED date for The Return, but as the promo stated Monday, once monday rolls by, if it isn't then, then the date can be changed to the 6th of November, otherwise, its much more likely there was a website error then a TV Promo being aired multiple times error =P Myzou 04:54, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Was Right for once xD Yay! :D Still gotta wait an hour for it to air here though -.- Myzou 03:13, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode Airdates 

message: Sorry, just gotta ask, I just recently realized that the vandalizism of adding "Deltora Warrior" to the page is coming from multiple IPs... I'm not tech savvy so yea, which is why I'm askin =P If in the future he continues to vandalize it witht he same things, is it even possible to block him since he is using multiple IPs? :/ Myzou 23:47, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It depends. I'll look into it if he starts up again tomorrow.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:22, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Problem solved for the Deltora Warrior and the episode dates.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:27, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Vandal

message: Posting here in case anyone doesn't like this, as without them, the rangers would've lost (not really matoombo, but was shown at end with vida), I believe they deserve to be in the allies. Also, is it safe to assume the tribunal turned Necrolai into the queen vampire, based on "We did what we had to do" from Dark Wish, after possible seeing the future and knowing what she would have to do? Myzou 22:05, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes on the Terrors, no on Necrolai.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:04, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Confused myself xD, So yes on those 2 terrors being in allies, but no to necrolai being there, or no to the necrolai and tribunal thing? =P Myzou 06:54, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No on the tribunal, and after more thought, it'd probably be be best to leave all the characters where they are, and merely mention they have joined the other side.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you did that, wouldn't you have to move Leelee and the others who changed back too? :/ To keep with continuity, as She was evil at first, but then became an ally, just like Necrolai, Matoombo, and Itassus? Myzou 08:08, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Leelee switched sides earlier. Necrolai, Matoombo, and Itassus were all in the finale, more or less.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Still, They ended up being good just like Leelee, why would they still be labeled as Villains? :/ Myzou 19:58, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Just to clarify, Matoombo was good before, as well as Itassus, yes Necrolai was only shown to be good for 2 episodes, but we know she has been contemplating things (based on her actions towards Sculpin and such.), not to mention Leanbow was only a ranger 3 episodes, so how is 3 episodes so much bigger then 2? ^^; I understand you didnt change it, just clarifying my point. If Necrolai is moved to Villains, Leanbow should be moved to allies ^^; Myzou 00:28, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry about not replying here. All three were evil until the finale, as they all were in Magiranger with similar lengths. Leanbow's transformation into a Ranger is a much more drastic change than becoming good at the last possible moment. The same characters are listed in these various positions in the articles for their Japanese counterparts. Isamu/Wolzard has entries under the Ozu Family and Infershia. Vancuria/Nai & Mea has an entry under Infershia only. Sphinx and Titan have entries under Infershia Pantheon only. Kat was only a Ranger for a single episode, and she also has her own entries as a Ranger (and an ally).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:55, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Leanbow's transformation into a Ranger is a much more drastic change than becoming good at the last possible moment." Sorry, but since when was Necrolai considering settling down with Leelee in Briarwood about 20 episodes back not the beginning of something? Matoombo and Itassus were both good beforehand, which is why theyre in both, but Necrolai should be in allies. Cause as I stated before, she was showing signs of turning good WAY before the finale, people just didn't notice it. (Watch some of the older episodes, and watch her reactions to some of the orders the terrors give her.) Myzou 07:21, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know some of this, but all of the characters are generally thought of as belonging to the single allliance that they were with most.  Necrolai was with the villains for the longest time, and Itassus and Matoombo are both part of the Ten Terrors, all of which are villains. It can be mentioned that they switch sides in their respective mentions at their articles, like it is done for Magiranger (if it were possible, we could rename the Villains article so that its side neutralish, but they didn't have a name).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:25, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Gotta ask, name one act of evil that Matoombo commited against the RANGERS (Leanbow was Koragg at the time he attacked him, that would constitute him being under the villains, same with Itassus, when both were asked to stop attacking they did (Yes, they convinced Itassus because she was a puppet, but still, she was asked and she stopped, not to mention without her, Nick and Vida would've been destroyed by Serpentina a few episodes back.) Why not move Nikki Pimvare to allies and leave Necrolai in villains as a compromise? Myzou 07:28, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have not had the chance to see the episodes before the finale (I did see Mystic Fate, though). What we could use right now is some sort of unifying name for the villains of PRMF, but there was none. Similar to Infershia, which covers all side switching that existed in Magi. And there is not much that can be said about Nikki other than "Necrolai called herself this after she lost her powers and became human" I would think. It would probably be possible to give Necrolai her own article (she has enough biographical information and whatnot) and then mention there about her side switching and all of that, yet keeping her in both the villain and character categories. There is a similar discussion at Talk:Koragg the Knight Wolf about his page's status and why it remains as it is.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:34, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless I'm mistaken, they've said Underworld minions and servants multiple times, and isn't Underworld pretty much the same thing as Infershia (when talking about groups) Myzou 07:37, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, I mean a canon name. They were never given one.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:42, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Still, I think that they should somehow be related to the allies section, if not really in there, their descriptions really don't point towards that. & about the necrolai article, I would do that, but I still don't know how to make wiki pages o.o;; (I'm an idiot like that xD) Myzou 01:00, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just so you know, that wasn't me who edited it in, so obviously there are others who feel the way I do o.o; Myzou 04:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Necrolai/Itassus/Matoombo

message: I was thinking of adding a section to the main PR: Mystic Force article showing a list of the various Magical and Mythical Beings and Creatures that are shown and mentioned in this show. There was a similar section in the article concerning one of my other favorite tv shows: American Dragon: Jake Long although the section began to grow and expand so much that it was eventually made into a seperate article on its own. I would like to know what everyone's opinions on this are Unknown Dragon 00:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, how many magical beings do we have?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:48, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Ugh... That's because Jake Long is supposed to be like that. I don't think it's necessary to have such a list for this article, as it's not the focus of the series.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magical Beings List 

message: I was just wondering about the spelling of "Leanbow." The closed captions always have it as "Alianbow." I was just curious about which is canon.
:In the credits at the end, his name was spelled as "Leanbow." Closed captioning had "Alianbow" and when you hear it, it's hard to figure out how it is spelt. We are going by the end credits spelling.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:08, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling

message: I was watching the Mystic Force marathon, and noticed that Udonna's White Ranger helmet is a modified version of Maddie's Mystic Mermaid head. Would this be considered Trivia? Qilinmon 02:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty sure it isn't, the White Ranger was in Magiranger long before Legend Mode, so pretty sure it was the opposite somewhat ^^; Myzou 02:45, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Sorry bout that, by Mystic Mermaid I assumed Legend Mode (too much magiranger FTW!), but, if you notice, the top is less pointed, the eyes arent merged, and a couple other differences ^^; (which of course, just proves they aren't identical), however, I believe this is actually the first time a ranger and a zord do own a modified version of the same helmet, so feel free to add it (Unless Ryulong says no o.o;;):) Myzou 00:11, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Erm, we're avoiding trivia (and fair use images in non-article spaces :P)—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Udonna's helmet 

message: Surely someone can get a picture of the Power Rangers in action...instead of having to use a wallpaper. Hbdragon88 01:57, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is that one at Mystic Force Power Rangers. Just make another fair use thing for it.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:05, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I could go about capturing a picture of all 8 rangers doing the final pose in Mystic Fate if I get the time ^^; Myzou 07:14, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Give me an hour for that :P—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:17, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 07:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Was talking about the one after role call lol, Daggeron is behind the others in that one, only see like 1/4 of his helmet =P Myzou 04:07, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just captured this one: http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8508/untitledca9.png If you'd wanna use it instead, it has all of the rangers visible. Myzou 02:47, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Hmm... The one after the rollcall I felt was from Magi. That's why I didn't use it. I'll take a better one.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo request 

message: The Master was never referred to as Octomus in the actual show, please don't change it back. An episode discription on iTunes doesn't mean that was eventually chosen for the character. That could've been an old character bio (which listed the name as Octomus) given to Disney as a sparknotes for the season and they were never given the updated version.RangerKing 22:02, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He was still referred to as Octomus at some point, and that is given note in his section on the Villains article. As he was never called Octomus in the show, I agree that all mentions of him should be as "The Master".—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:47, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Octomus 

message: Anyways, Something I noticed when overlooking Clare's page. Why isn't she considered a Ranger on wikipedia? Yes, she was based on a heavenly saint in magiranger, but so is Daggeron. She had a normal form, a ranger form (with the robes and staff) and then a zord form (being able to grow big in her ancient mystic mode). Yes, it was only around for 2 episodes, but she fought alongside the rangers during that time, and continued to stay along with them. So why isn't she listed under rangers? This may sound bogus, but think about it, what is different from her and a ranger besides the fact her ranger outfit wasn't skin tight? >.> Leanbow never had a zord, he just grew big like her, he combined with yet another thing that just grew big, which made a sort of zord, so if Clare had combined with something, people would've called her a ranger? o.O, Also, just like Vida's "Everchanging as the wind, Pink Mystic Ranger!", She had "Power of the Shining Moon, Behold, the Gatekeeper!", the only thing she was missing was as stated above a skin tight suit (which makes no sense, as both Koragg and Daggeron didn't have skin tight suits...) and a zord form, which she technically had (The rangers just grew big and changed form like she did <.<) o.OMyzou 17:59, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because she wasn't anything close to a Ranger in Magiranger. Her parallel, Rin/Lunagel, was just another character in Magiranger that had magical powers, and she only used them for a few episodes. She is not really a Ranger, which is why she has a listing under Other Rangers and Ranger-like allies as a Ranger-like ally along with characters such as the Blue Senturion and the original Magna Defender. If they had kept her around for a few more episodes, in either nation, then she would probably be considered a Ranger.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 18:48, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What about Kat from SPD? She was there for 1 Episode, she never did anything besides morph, she never had a zord, yet people consider her a ranger because her name was Kat Ranger. Clare was the Shining Moon WARRIOR, while Leanbow is the Wolf WARRIOR, I just find it odd... She's Daggerons opposite in element lol. Just because Rin wasn't a ranger, Clare can't be considered one? I thought as you've stated multiple times around here, that PR is not entirely related to sentai, and just because it's one thing in sentai, doesn't automatically make it true in PR <.< Also, wouldn't Leanbow and Kat be under Ranger like allies instead of rangers, as they were there for 2(He wasn't morphed the entire time in Mystic Fate 1) and 1 episodes, respectively, and neither showed actual zord useage, as Leanbow only used his as Koragg. Myzou 02:20, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

text: No, Kat is a Ranger, as she was issued her Ranger Powers by SPD, Leanbow has a Mystic Morpher and his armor is designed to resemble the other Mystic Rangers. Both have morphed using Ranger morph-phrases. Clare just got a hood and a wand, she had no Ranger gear (helmet, costume, armor, or morpher) while Kat and Leanbow do. Aside from becoming a giant harem-girl, there is nothing remotely Ranger-like about Clare. NeoCoronis 02:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly how does Leanbow's armor remotely resemble spandex suits? >.> Clare had a tiara, robes, a form that was armored, and her tiara acted as a morpher. Leanbow is no more a ranger then Clare, if you give me an actual reason why, then I'll stop, yes, he did Role Call with them, but if Clare still had her powers, she probably would've too... Myzou 16:14, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clare 

message: How anyone say that Peta Rutter is the oldest Power Rangers actress when her birthdate isn't known?RangerKing 14:08, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Her birthday is known, please just look it up =D, just because wiki doesn't have it, doesn't mean people don't know it o.o;; Myzou 17:55, 21 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, but that would mean that the actor was under 39 when he/she first played a Ranger. Peta Rutter would still be the oldest, if her age was known, exactly.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 06:49, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peta Rutter 

message: I usually have captions on when watching TV and i watched a fairly new episode of Mystic Force and then Lianbow's name was said the caption read "Alianbow" I dont know if it was a mistake by the Caption company or whatever but every time someone spoke the name Lianbow the caption read "Alianbow."IamCool316 17:33, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was shown in the credits as Leanbow =D Sometimes captions are wrong ^.~ Myzou 17:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Christ why are you rehashing an argument from 6 years ago. The end credits have the character listed as "Leanbow". IMDB has him listed as "Leanbow". You are wrong.—Ryulong (琉竜) 11:42, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  the spelling of Lienbow/Leanbow/Alianbow 

message: Ok, normally I agree with you Ryu, but, just curious, why did you reformat it to look like that? There is a main article for the rangers, which explains the stuff they enjoy and a little background about them, which makes that not necessary, not to mention you only changed certain ranger teams, so it's completely outta synch with articles like Lost Galaxy. Myzou 17:26, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The tables are getting cumbersome and unencyclopedic. It's a reformat that's really needed, if we even want to think that these articles will get good or featured. The tables had to go. You can rework the short blurbs (this is mainly a retaliation against a user putting a table at a Sentai article for no good reason).—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:39, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Will you at least do it for more then the current 3 seasons? :/ Only SPD, Mystic Force, and Overdrive have been changed, however, the new format won't work for seasons like MMPR, Turbo, and Lost Galaxy, as they had replacements. :/ Myzou 00:23, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have done MMPR, MMAR, and Zeo. It's a slow process, that you too can help with. I've been bugging others to help out, but they're not being all that helpful.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:25, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I did what I could on Power Rangers: Lost Galaxy, hopefully it's what was wanted ^^;, The text needs help, but the main reformatting is there. If that's right, I'll try other seasons =P Myzou 06:06, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Reformatting 

message: I think guides as to which episodes of all these series have appeared on DVD would be a good addition. Since Disney isn't likely to release full season sets anytime soon, this information would be both interesting and helpful. --CmdrClow 23:36, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: DVD

message: Seeing as I don't know the full story of this I won't write anything in the article, but I recall reading that Disney got in a lot of trouble for following Dekaranger's plot too closely in a few episodes of SPD. On the other hand, they fully collaborated with Toei making Magiranger and this, so some of the episodes were dead similar (Stranger Within being most notable). Does anyone think any of this deserves a mention in the article? ReloadPsi (talk) 16:03, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have a source that shows this, other than just watching the two episode side-by-side.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magiranger similarities 

message: When did we start putting "counterpart to" in Power Ranger articles? On top of that, wasn't Octomus just a toy name, I don't recall them ever calling him Octomus in the actual show. Last time I checked, Toys produced by a secondary company do not qualify as reliable sources for Wiki. Myzou (talk) 20:09, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uh... 

message: An IP user keeps adding inappropriate line breaks, for example here, here and here. There's simply no need for this and in the third example the user removes a complete sentence in favor of a fragment. The changes are not consistent with MOS:TV#Cast or normal standards of English, and we don't have enough information to warrant a line break. Further, the user hasn't explained their edits or opened a discussion, as would be their requirement per WP:BRD. Proposing the removal of this formatting. Also, the user keeps adding redlinks to the article, which we shouldn't be doing, per WP:REDNOT.  Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:24, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unncessary linebreaks, links to non-existent articles