Talk:Eternals (comics)

message: Aren't apocalypse and cannonball eternals? --Torourkeus 01:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Apocalypse and Cannonball

message: I'm removing the stuff about the makers of Highlander suing Marvel of the Eternals because no source is cited and due to the fact that the Eternals were created by Marvel over a decade before the first Highlander movie, I'm sure the anon user is making this story up. -- Crevaner 01:14, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have the details to hand, so I'm not sure whether or not it has any basis in fact - but the concerns (which may or may not have reached legal action) were regarding the Externals - the immortal mutants noted above - not the Eternals. The only connection between the Externals and Eternals is the choice of name, which may have been an attempt by Rob Liefeld to link the two groups thematically. The Externals talk page has some comment on the Highlander claim already.Mrph 18:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Highlander 

message: It says that the article can't be edited because of vandalism, but the vandalism was left in (that ugly, unnecessary, and virtually blank table).  That is strange. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.50.55.206 (talk • contribs) 13:32, March 26, 2006  (UTC)
:You realize the vandal they are talking about is you dude. Originalsinner 01:20, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha... you User:70.50.55.84 thought you were correcting my English with realise/realize. I'm not attacking you or nothing it's just that's how we Kiwis spell "realise" with an s and not a z.  Kinda like harbour/harbor and how herb (name) and herb (plant) are pronounced the same. Originalsinner 00:43, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I spell harbour with a u, because that's how the OED spells it - just as they spell "realize" with a z.  70.53.111.188 22:21, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

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thread_title:  This is odd 

message: I wonder if it might be an idea, in the Notes in the table, to mention what issues the info comes from.  Looking at the Ikaris entry, it makes it look as if all that stuff is from Eternals #1.  At least, it seems that way to me.  Biff Loman 20:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes 

message: Did Sigmar really have a laboratory in an arctic maritime museum in Tromsø, Norway? I find it hard to believe, partly because I think the comic takes place a long time before the museum was founded, and partly because I can't imagine Marvel knowing this detailed information about the world outside the USA. But I can't be sure, as I've never read the comics. JIP | Talk 10:39, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polaria 

message: Does everyone else like this New Eternals image?  I hate it.  Although not a fan of Romita, Jr. I would rather have that back up than a cover from what is probably the worst Eternals comic ever made.  IMO, of course.  Todd Bridges 12:12, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's better.  It doesn't really depict the whole group, but it's the closest we're going to get.  I definitely prefer it to the New Eternals cover.  Todd Bridges 12:27, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I've added one I pulled from the Grand Comic-Book Database.  I've set it as a separate thumbnail.  I don't care about which pic's at the top.  Someone else can change if they care.  I'm still working on trimming the giant table down to where it should be.  Too much of that info should be in separate articles.
--El benito 23:17, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Image 

message: The Eternal ages mentioned in the first issue of the new (Neil Gaiman) series don't seem to match those listed here - Makkari is said to be much older that previous stories suggest. One panel also makes it  look as if Sprite was one of the very first Eternals? As the story is still ongoing and this is (potentially unreliable) info provided by one of the characters, it may not be worth mentioning it here yet - but it's something to think about once the series is complete. Mrph 23:49, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Gaiman's series has a number of differences to preestablished continuity. Such as - all the Eternals (around a hundred) were created by the Celestials at the same time; each has a distinct power the others don't possess, Olympia is in Antarctica instead of Greece, the Eternals are confined the Solar system, they don't need Zuras, Thena or whoever is the Prime Eternal to create a Uni-mind (the very nature of which is different as well). His take seems to be a complete reimagining of the the Eternals rather than just a retcon. Though it has ties to the Civil War storyline it remains to be seen if this will become the new official take on the Eternals.--65.113.254.238 16:26, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timelines and ages

message: Especially since Eternals is now just a redirect... ???--DrBat 01:16, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Quote the mover: "Wikipedia does not use plural forms as titles, when possible." What does that mean? This really needs an admin to delete Eternals so we can move it back tho. rst20xx 20:24, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd have to disagree about the plural. It's the title of the book - surely that takes precedence? Otherwise surely we'd have "X-Man", "Of Mouse and Man", "The Grape of Wrath" and "Star War"...  Mrph 23:17, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I suppose someone might be planning to add the Doctor Who Eternals, as they've been name-checked again in the new series. But still... Mrph 23:17, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe, but this isn't why it was moved, and also this hasn't happened yet - move should occur if/when that happens. And btw there is an X-Man :P rst20xx 01:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Bumping this issue as something similar came up over The Authority and it was eventually moved to the more logical address from Authority (comics). If there are other Eternals then folks can make a disambiguation page and link it from here. As it stands it seems a bit silly. (Emperor 02:07, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was Eternals moved to Eternals (comics)? 

message: Okay, the table in this entry has grown rather massive, mostly due to the amount of notes given per characters.  Recalling that each line in the table should link to a separate profile article, we should trim down the individual info on this page to a more managable amount.  We need a one or two sentence blurb, not Ikaris and Sersi's likes and dislikes of each other.  I'm going to set about this, but in order to do it properly, we need to make sure that any deleted information was already available on the linked page.  That might take a small slice of forever, so I'm asking anyone else interested to step in and help.--El benito 21:46, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up 

message: The back of the hardback reprint collection of Kirby's original series makes mention of how the Eternals (and Celestials and Deviants) were eventually incorporated into the core/616 Marvel Universe.  Should that info be included in the article?  (I see no reason why it shouldn't.)  --Dr Archeville 18:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed - that whole retconning of Starlin's characters needs to be mentioned as such, and not given the impression that they were always "Eternals". -- Beardo 17:37, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Expansion (When/How incorporated into 616)

message: As you can see, the page has been moved to Eternal (comics). Most(?) of the links haven't been updated, though. Is this the best name for the article? Should it be moved back to Eternals (comics), or should it go to The Eternals, to match the the title of the series itself? As noted, Wikipedia doesn't usually include plurals in article names... but as also noted, we don't alter plural series titles (Defenders, X-Men, Champions etc). I'd be happy to move it back, or to The Eternals... but it'd be good to know the general opinion on this before it goes to a formal move proposal. --Mrph 17:08, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This entry is definitely about more than one Eternal.  However, it's about the classification as opposed to a single title.  I don't think it matters whether or not there is a 'The', but it certainly needs to be plural.  'The Eternals' was the title of the original series, but Neil Gaiman titled his recent 7-issue-mini 'Eternals'. Gavroche42 15:18, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  A similar issue came up over The Authority see here. I say move this to The Eternals but make sure we disambiguate to Eternal which I note points here via Eternals. (Emperor 16:53, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The user who made the move did the same to Inhumans, stating "no plural for species". However, the articles are supposed to deal with the fact these are also the features' titles. The preceding article "The" isn't relevant for article naming - it's the singular/plural that is the issue. So both Eternals and Inhumans need to be changed back. --Pc13 17:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Since the article is about the series AND the characters, I think the name ought to be Eternals. The Eternals would be OK, too, but not my preference. Eternals (comics) is not currently necessary as there are no other Eternals articles from which to disambiguate. Eternal (comics), however, is just plain wrong. --GentlemanGhost 18:01, 4 March 2007 (UTC)

text: The original editor may have been working from a guideline about the naming of species (I have no evidence, but it seems to be the convention). I think this is a case for WP:IAR so that the names can be plural to incorporate the series but omit "The." CovenantD 10:05, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Should the article be split into two articles, one for information on the species (ad perhaps brief info on the various Eternals series), and one for info on the Gaiman series?  Sorta like what's seen in Sentinel (comics) and Sentinel (comic book)?  --Dr Archeville 02:08, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt if that's necessary. The existence of the mini-series can be noted in the Publication history section, and the events in it can go in the fictional biography section. As long as events are properly sourced to the correct issue, it should be easy to tell what happened when. CovenantD 03:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page move - so where ''should'' it be? Eternal, Eternals, Eternals (comics) or The Eternals?

message: What with the end of the miniseries, I was wondering if there was any information about a new series being started, I.E. if one is actually starting and, if so, what is the proposed release date, artist and writer, et cetera. It occurs to me that this would be a valuable bit of info to include in the article, if anything is known. 192.251.125.85 07:17, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Series?

message: Isn't that a bit pointless?  You've got a link to the list of characters anyway, and as the Eternals are not really a team like the Avengers or the X-Men, but are an offshoot of humanity, it's meangingless.  70.50.54.186 01:42, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roster? 

message: I want to add Thor: The Eternals Saga, volume 1 and 2 in the list of TPBs. While it is not a collection of an Eternals comic, it is a key part of their continuity as well as the story that introduced them in the Marvel Universe. --Leocomix 18:00, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes sense to me. (Emperor (talk) 05:37, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  trade paperback 

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replies: text: Done - needs a lot more referencing. (Emperor (talk) 03:59, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
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message: Emperor, I see you initially put an end date to v4, then reverted yourself; you were almost certainly correct, as issue #9 is solicited for March shipping (May cover date), and there are no further solicitations.  Unfortunately, since Marvel neglected to note that it's the final issue in the March (May) solicitation, and they haven't commented on it anywhere I can find, we're stuck without a cite.  However, once they actually say something somewhere we can cite, then -- in reference to your edit note on your self-revert -- May 2009 would indeed be the correct date (especially since you changed the start date to match the cover date rather than the ship date).JFMorse (talk) 11:34, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It is worth noting that I wasn't the one who added the end date to the current series . I did have a look around and not appearing in the April 2009 solicitations (for comics cover dated June 2009) might only mean the comic has slipped a month (which is annoyingly common these days). It might be true but as far as we can tell it is currently just guesswork and inferring this means the title is cancelled is original research. I am keeping an eye out for news and it is worth noting that the news The Eternal was cancelled came out in the solicitations and you would assume something similar might happen (or a lack of the title raising questions). What is interesting is that it makes the trade a bit odd and if cancelled at 9 issues we might see them pulling it and re-releasing it later, which might be worth watching - you would think Marvel might let the writers pull all the threads together in a couple more issues which would at least bulk it up enough to get them another volume. Anyway all shots in the dark until we get a source. (Emperor (talk) 15:32, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, my mistake -- looked to me like you'd added it then undid it.  :)  But yeah, it's got to sit as is until some form of confirmation crops up. JFMorse (talk) 04:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No worries. It has been cancelled as Joe Quesada has confirmed it in his Cup O' Joe column . I'm looking around for another source as I'm pretty sure the bots automatically remove links to MySpace blog links but if I can't find anything else I'll give it a shot. (Emperor (talk) 23:05, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I added it but I suspect a robot will try and remove it so I'll keep an eye out for a better source. (Emperor (talk) 04:22, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: v4 Cancellation

message: In the "fictional biography" section, the most mention of any of the events in Kirby's original run are covered by exactly two sentences. Can't we do better than that? MultipleTom (talk) 22:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kirby? 

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message: The Uni-Mind doesn't meet WP:GNG, and is an aspect of the Eternals anyway. Namenamenamenamename (talk) 07:31, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Uni-Mind]] 

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