Talk:Shandy

message: That German beverage is marketed by Coca-Cola as a pre-made soda under the name "Mezzo Mix". Is it worth adding this to the article? 188.60.225.167 (talk) 18:39, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The "Spezial"

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message: I have removed a statement (struck below) from the lead
Shandy (also radler or panaché) is beer flavoured with lemonade (which means, in England, a 7-Up type of beverage, not the mixture of lemon juice, sugar and water called lemonade in the U.S.) or another soft drink or soda water.
If someone can rewrite it in a more NPOV manner, I'd be happy -- RoninBK  T C   09:55, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV comment redacted 

message: I removed this:
: It is thought that the original manufacturer of the drink was Barnaby Eliot WalkerR. Fentiman's Guide to Soft Drinks, ISBN:978-0-9767736-6-5 and mass distribution was begun as early as the mid 19th Century.
because I think it's a hoax - the ISBN doesn't match up, and I can't find a trace of any such book. Put it back in if you can prove me wrong though... Chris (talk) 12:28, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I am fairly sure I've seen references to shandy in English literature prior to the nineteenth century, so support your removal of this text.  It would likely be constructive to look into (the life and opinions of) Tristram Shandy (an 18th century novel) as either a possible origin for the name or a reference to it. 84.215.6.188 (talk) 18:47, 3 January 2011 (UTC)

text: I removed the "Mazout is Flemish for Diesel". Flemish is not a language, it's Dutch. Mazout is not Diesel. Diesel is Diesel. Diesel goes in cars. Mazout is used to warm houses. Composition is the same but the color is different to prevent people from filling their cars with Mazout, because Diesel is far more expensive than Mazout.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.183.48.194 (talk) 11:54, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed stuff 

message: I contend that all mention of cider and alcopop mixes should be removed.
Snake-bite and its variants (diesel should clearly be regarded as a variant of snake-bite, a.k.a. snake-bite and black) are an entirely different kettle of fish, if only for the simple reason that they are usually more intoxicating than beer (and often drunk specifically for the purpose of hastening intoxication), where one of the reasons for shandy is precisely that it is less so (hence more suitable for quenching thirst).
Shandy mixes beer with a (usually sweet and fizzy) low-alcohol (or alcohol-free) drink; in the UK, cider is typically at least as strong as beer (and often stronger); nor is it generally sweet.
: I agree, isn't the definition of the term "shandy" that it mixes beer with a sweet non-alcoholic drink? Surely two alcoholic drinks don't qualify? All the dictionary definitions I can see either specify lemonade or that it's a non-alcoholic drink . https://www.google.com/search?q=shandy+definition --Pjaymes (talk) 00:17, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It is called a Pica / Pika ("Sting" or "Bite") in the Basque Country.
which should at least be checked as a snake-bite rather than a shandy, for the above reasons. 84.215.6.188 (talk) 19:34, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove cider/alcopop references 

message: Got to agree with the comments about Snake Bite, Beer (usually Lager) and Cider mixed is defiantly called a Snake Bite. When I was younger and went out drinking regularly there were a lot of establishments that refused to serve Snake Bite because of its supposed magic property of getting you falling down drunk. This thou, had more to do with the fact that only younger less experienced drinkers would order them. When the two drinks are mixed together the resulting liquid has a nasty propensity to go all cloudy and gloopy, not too sure why, maybe some chemical used in their brewing react together. Special Brew and Merrydowns can be used to mix the drink the resulting Snake Bite is much more potent and really lives up to it's name, after drinking it you do actually feel like you have been poisoned, and if you don't get to Loma Linda within an hour or two you are dead.
Yakacm (talk) 12:30, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not a shandy though is it? https://www.google.com/search?q=shandy+definition--Pjaymes (talk) 00:14, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Snake Bite. 

message: To add to the confusion there is also a larger top, which is pint of larger to which small amount of Lemonade (UK style Lemonade, clear soda drink type drink flavoured with citrus akin to 7 Up) has been added, when I say small it is say 5 - 10%, where as a Shandy would be 50/50. A Larger Top is a bit like a Larger and Lime or a Larger and Black, where a small amount of Lime or Blackcurrant Cordial is added, in all 3 cases this is normally done (in my experience anyway) because mass produced draft Larger doesn't taste very nice. A Larger Top maybe a drink that is peculiar to the NW of England although it must exist else where but maybe under a different name.
Yakacm (talk) 12:48, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Larger Top. 

message: I think the reference to shandies as any alcoholic drink is wrong. "Had a few shandies" is just a sarcastic way of saying a person has drunk a lot, obviously of something stronger than shandies. It's just a deliberate understatement.RobertWimberley (talk) 15:39, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed. "had a few shandies" is used as a euphemism for rather more than that, to imply that the referenced individual is intoxicated beyond an acceptable level.--Pjaymes (talk) 00:49, 31 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Had a few shandies 

message: It's been a while since this page was seriously updated and I think, honestly, its a bit of a mess. The main section on variants doesn't even include an actual description of British shandy (bitter or lager shandy). The Rock Shandy section is questionable as I find more info out there about rock shandies being mixed drinks with liquor than I do about them being anything close to a variant of an actual shandy just without beer.
Being that this is a culturally based drink that has slightly different meanings in different countries, that should be more directly addressed (descriptions/examples by country?). There is no mention of the increasingly popular American shandy either, where still lemonade is mixed with generally a hefeweizen.
Gremlyn1 (talk) 19:09, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time for an update? 

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message: hello guys, i just corrected the section "Radler". i am from south west germany (near stuttgart, blackforest's border) and nobody of us swabians calls it russ. it's a radler and that's how half of germany calls it. tho i know from my huge family in austria (grandma from there had 10 siblings) that they call it russ and many of them live on the countryside, some even owning forests & farms & fishponds - and they do NOT make it with Almdudler, they try to make it with lemon soda if possible, but Almdudler (a lemonade made of farmer herbs) is alot more available there because many can just step out of their door and collect the herbs, making almdudler in their kitchen. if a radler is made with almdudler, it is named "Almradler". sidefacts: an "alm" is a small but autonomous farmerhouse upon a hill with lots of owned (& cultivated) land belonging to it; just imagine it as a mountainranch. and a "dudler" is simply the austrian word for "jodler", someone who yodles - usually the guy that live on alms. ;) --37.201.7.114 (talk) 14:37, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  correctification by a southgerman 

message: To further confuse matters, the US burger chain Shake Shack will serve a shandy https://www.shakeshack.com/2016/07/01/hoppy-july-cool-shack-shandy-limited-edition-beer-lemonade-combo/ which is a apparently on their "secret menu" like their peanut butter burger. A US section is perhaps needed. Wastrel Way (talk) 20:54, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shake Shack Shandy 

message: Radler (German for "cyclist") has a long history in German-speaking regions. It commonly consists of a 50:50 mixture of beer and sparkling lemonade or grapefruit juice.[3]
"Limonade" in German means soda. Translating it with "lemonade" is a false friend. Radler is solely made with Zitronenlimonade, lemon flavored soda, for example Sprite, never with "sparkling lemonade" or grapefruit juice. If it's made with anything but beer and Zitronenlimonade, it's not a simple Radler anymore. Some variations exist, but these are fancy specialties, which are then also named accordingly. When you order a Radler anywhere in Germany, you will solely get a beer mixed with Zitronenlimonade, mostly Sprite. 
I'm born and raised in Bavarian and have lived in several Bundesländern (federated states). --2A01:598:B900:D6D2:C78:4337:9E4F:9A45 (talk) 21:29, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Radler 

message: The article lists the UK and Europe side-by-side in the list of places where it's popular. The UK is part of Europe, though. "Europe" is the geographical continent which includes the UK, and "the EU" is the political entity which the UK is not part of. I suggest that the list be amended to EITHER just say "Europe" or list the UK and all the other European countries in which it's popular. LeoEvilsbane (talk) 16:57, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  UK and Europe?