Talk:Airsoft/Archive 3

message: :All of the stuff stated on the MilSim page could go on this one.
::I think this shoudl be seriously considered. Especially given how brief MilSim is.  But what if someone does a search for MilSim, should they be directed to airsoft? But MilSim is not only related to airsoft.  Believe it or not, MilSim is actually trademarked terminology by Tom Clancey for his games.  Those games are considered Mil Sim as well.  
:::Perhaps a better option is to delevop the MilSim article to include all the definitions and uses of it as well as mention it's applications in airsoft. Any thoughts? [[[User:Ganninia|Ganninia]] 07:03, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I have to agree with you on that. I guess we need someone to expand MilSim to recognize the Tom Clany aspect. I think the term maybe also be used in paintball. 65.197.192.130 23:17, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: MilSim should probably be a disambig page, linking to the MilSim section here, an article (if there is one) about the Clancy side of things, and if need be, the Paintball article. There's no need for a seperate article about the airsoft game type since it is already detailled here. -Madbrood 12:30, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with MilSim

message: === Sample airsoft laws from around the world. What is the criteria? ===
The airsoft article describes legal related info at the "Sample airsoft laws from around the world" about several countries regarding the practice of airsoft. After reading it I've questioned what is the criteria being used to extract information from article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_issues_in_airsoft ?
In my opinion only good examples should be stated at the main article. A good example should be the one(s) that best defend airsoft sport practice and not the one(s) that best avoid/limit airsoft. Comments?
:Whatever we decide to do, I think the section should be trimmed; it is supposed to be a sampling, after all. The main article is where everything is supposed to be. --UNHchabo 06:51, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: E-mail sent. :) --UNHchabo 03:29, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm taking out the photo up top, as it shows players with no eye protection. Even though it makes note that this is dangerous, it still sets a bad example. I'd rather have a photo that shows players in action, and says note the eye protection. I will upload a photo showing just that, and put it in the article. Until then, this one is going down. (on a side note, the photo I upload will be either public domain or GFDL, not copyrighted) --UNHchabo 17:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done. You guys like the new photos? Say what you think of them! Also, if anyone can think of a way to make the middle look good with the content I added, I'd appreciate the help. --UNHchabo 20:38, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking of changing the image a few days ago as I too thought it did make someone who has just visited the article think that wearing no eye protection is commonplace. Went to change it and it seems I was beaten to it! Nice one. -Tankeh 18:52, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, if you think your photo would be better as the first thing people see of Airsoft, then go ahead and change it, I'm not claiming a monopoly on this article or anything. ;) I had free time yesterday, so I just changed it right away. --UNHchabo 19:27, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'll be adding some photos from my personal collection as soon as I figure out how... :) Jonathonbarton 21:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The first photo does not display mil-sim, in mil-sim players use other military gear to simulate real military situations. This means webbing, rucksacks, holsters, radio equipment and eaven authentic vehicles. Contact me please as I have no idea how to add them here and I can supply you with a LOT better picture(s) regarding mil-sim. egon[dot]ottokar[at]mail[dot]ee
Please, note that the use of real-world equipment does NOT constitute a milsim game or milsim player. The vast majority of players at my local site have realistic loadouts, not because we play milsim (far from it), but because it simply looks the part :) -Madbrood 12:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

text:  I was considering doing just that, Jared...but I wanted to put in a little work on the pages and get more familiar with them, what content is currently there, and what content could ultimately be placed there before removing the Merge Links from the top...but you're probably right... The Merge isn't going to happen, and we can decide whether Merging the "ancillary articles" has any merit as part of a completely seperate discussion... Jonathon Barton 18:14, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  General Page Concerns 

message: The airsoft article describes legal related info at the "Sample airsoft laws from around the world" about several countries regarding the practice of airsoft. After reading it I've questioned what is the criteria being used to extract information from article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_issues_in_airsoft ?
In my opinion only good examples should be stated at the main article. A good example should be the one(s) that best defend airsoft sport practice and not the one(s) that best avoid/limit airsoft. Comments?
:Whatever we decide to do, I think the section should be trimmed; it is supposed to be a sampling, after all. The main article is where everything is supposed to be. --UNHchabo 06:51, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sample airsoft laws from around the world. What is the criteria? 

message: I really don't know where else to put this so I will add it here.  Would the user UNHchabo please e-mail me at I would like to talk with you about some of the editing work regarding airsoft.  Nothing bad ;)  Thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Revenant47 (talk • contribs) 21:26, October 10, 2006.
:E-mail sent. :) --UNHchabo 03:29, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Want Some Help 

message: Added mention of Spies and Mercs variation Russianmissile 06:04, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor Edit 

message: Well it did have this section until 00:14, 9 May 2006 Mboverload just removed it. Sometimes too much cleaning equals loosing...
What more is needed here? I have added sources for the last two requests. Doncommie 15:43, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article or section does not cite its references or sources 

message: Opinion vs. Fact checked and it's pretty "clean" as of today. Even the External Links comments have been stripped of adjectives like "Good" or "Popular". Jonathonbarton 21:32, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opinion vs. Fact 

message: The article is becoming a regular target for vandals, who are removing existing material and inserting references to their favoured products and websites. I am surprised that not all airsoft enthusiasts want this article to reflect the diversity of preference and opinion on the sport. I ask the people who deleted existing material and added their own to reconsider. Try adding your material without deleting the existing material. I'm sure all other users will respect your links and favourite manufacturers if you respect theirs. Wulfilia 16:31, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: I'm currently waiting on a good gameplay picture from one of my online friends to be free licensed. Once she does that, it'll pop up near the top of the article. Useless Fodder 19:39, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm taking out the photo up top, as it shows players with no eye protection. Even though it makes note that this is dangerous, it still sets a bad example. I'd rather have a photo that shows players in action, and says note the eye protection. I will upload a photo showing just that, and put it in the article. Until then, this one is going down. (on a side note, the photo I upload will be either public domain or GFDL, not copyrighted) --UNHchabo 17:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done. You guys like the new photos? Say what you think of them! Also, if anyone can think of a way to make the middle look good with the content I added, I'd appreciate the help. --UNHchabo 20:38, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking of changing the image a few days ago as I too thought it did make someone who has just visited the article think that wearing no eye protection is commonplace. Went to change it and it seems I was beaten to it! Nice one. -Tankeh 18:52, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, if you think your photo would be better as the first thing people see of Airsoft, then go ahead and change it, I'm not claiming a monopoly on this article or anything. ;) I had free time yesterday, so I just changed it right away. --UNHchabo 19:27, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'll be adding some photos from my personal collection as soon as I figure out how... :) Jonathonbarton 21:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The first photo does not display mil-sim, in mil-sim players use other military gear to simulate real military situations. This means webbing, rucksacks, holsters, radio equipment and eaven authentic vehicles. Contact me please as I have no idea how to add them here and I can supply you with a LOT better picture(s) regarding mil-sim. egon[dot]ottokar[at]mail[dot]ee
Please, note that the use of real-world equipment does NOT constitute a milsim game or milsim player. The vast majority of players at my local site have realistic loadouts, not because we play milsim (far from it), but because it simply looks the part :) -Madbrood 12:33, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos 

message: I think there is too much overlap between these three articles. When one looks for information on a particular aspect of this topic, one sometimes finds it scattered across all three.
After 7 Months of discussion the consensus seems to be somewhere between "Oppose merge" and "Strongly Oppose Merge". Suggestion removed. Jonathonbarton 21:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I was considering doing just that, Jared...but I wanted to put in a little work on the pages and get more familiar with them, what content is currently there, and what content could ultimately be placed there before removing the Merge Links from the top...but you're probably right... The Merge isn't going to happen, and we can decide whether Merging the "ancillary articles" has any merit as part of a completely seperate discussion... Jonathon Barton 18:14, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The relationship between the [[airsoft]], [[air gun]] and [[BB gun]] articles ("The Merger") 

message: I edited the section about gas airsoft guns, it just didn't sit right with me- too much "popular" and "high-power" talk with not citation. Also, not all gas guns are "high-power". Have revised it with note about realistic operation and effect of low temperatures. -Madbrood 12:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gas Guns 

message: Every company I've seen that makes AEGs has the A standing for "Automatic". Check out TM's site. They call the AEPs "Automatic Electric Pistols". I have not seen a single item saying "air" except for a few gun boxes, and that's likely in order to get through Customs. Check the websites. --UNHchabo 04:25, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Verified and confirmed updated. Jonathonbarton 21:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AEG Definition 

message: === IRONMAN? ===
Removed. I've been active in the Airsoft Community for close to 5 years, and have only ever heard of "Ironman" airsoft in an anecdotal context, and only as "rumored" in Asia. Lots of people have seen the picture of the asian guy with holes all over  his face, but the veracity of that picture has never been established as being authentically caused by airsoft. Jonathonbarton 21:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: at close range I've seen it happen (strictly speaking it was a violation of the 'no live fire within 5 metres', but it was an accident, not intentional), the 'victim' had a pretty big bloody dent in his cheek, bled like you wouldn't believe too. So yes, it can happen, at close range, with a gun rigged to fire at exactly 350 fps. (Higher is not allowed at that site - at least not for AEG's), though it's not that common. Kluner.net 00:06, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Airsoft Gameplay Section Comments 

message: Removed. I've been active in the Airsoft Community for close to 5 years, and have only ever heard of "Ironman" airsoft in an anecdotal context, and only as "rumored" in Asia. Lots of people have seen the picture of the asian guy with holes all over  his face, but the veracity of that picture has never been established as being authentically caused by airsoft. Jonathonbarton 21:23, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: at close range I've seen it happen (strictly speaking it was a violation of the 'no live fire within 5 metres', but it was an accident, not intentional), the 'victim' had a pretty big bloody dent in his cheek, bled like you wouldn't believe too. So yes, it can happen, at close range, with a gun rigged to fire at exactly 350 fps. (Higher is not allowed at that site - at least not for AEG's), though it's not that common. Kluner.net 00:06, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  IRONMAN? 

message: === Airsoft Safety concerns ===
I started airsoft this year and i've had my fair share of bruises. I was wondering, how much FPS does it take to punch through human skin?  Is it true that people can be come crippled if they took a direct hit in the knee?  Once upon on a time I was going airsoft with forty other players. Of course the ground rules are that everyone must wear of eye protection and assault rifles should not shoot over 400FPS. This is in Thailand. Well, i was wearing a face mask because i'm rather concerned about getting shot in the face. Unfortunately the face mask didnt work too well. I was shot in the face ten meters away and i got bruised. Strangely, my face mask wasn't penetrated but my face was bruised. How could this happen?  -Philip
:It depends - UK Home office ballistics put the figure at 1.38 joules - Around 350-360 fps, while RoI Studies put it at 2 Joules 400+ . As for the crippling, Unless you are firing an INSANELY upgraded gun (and I mean past all conventional and custom upgrades) there would be the slightest chance this might happen . But this is almost nigh on impossible. you might jump around and clutch your knee from the hit of a stock gun, but it's very unlikely it'll leave more than a welt. As for the face mask, you'd have to show us the make/model. Was a paintball mask, or an Airsoft mask? -Alex (Bobthelumherjack[at]gmail.com)
:: like Alex said, it would require a realy powerfull gun, and at really close range too. I've seen it happen only once (see under IronMan on this page) and that was at a range of 2 metres or so. Range is mostly your friend in such matters, because BB's are so light, and have so little mass, they tend to lose velocity and kinetic energy really fast through friction with air. The guy I know who did got hurt recovered very nicely in no time at all. It was just a miniscule tear in his skin, right above a bloodvessel, which looks bad, but the bruising and wound have completely disapeared in days. (just make sure you have some form of iodine ready to clean the wound). He was only wearing protective glasses by the way, not a full-face mask. Kluner.net 07:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Airsoft Safety Precautions Comments 

message: I started airsoft this year and i've had my fair share of bruises. I was wondering, how much FPS does it take to punch through human skin?  Is it true that people can be come crippled if they took a direct hit in the knee?  Once upon on a time I was going airsoft with forty other players. Of course the ground rules are that everyone must wear of eye protection and assault rifles should not shoot over 400FPS. This is in Thailand. Well, i was wearing a face mask because i'm rather concerned about getting shot in the face. Unfortunately the face mask didnt work too well. I was shot in the face ten meters away and i got bruised. Strangely, my face mask wasn't penetrated but my face was bruised. How could this happen?  -Philip
:It depends - UK Home office ballistics put the figure at 1.38 joules - Around 350-360 fps, while RoI Studies put it at 2 Joules 400+ . As for the crippling, Unless you are firing an INSANELY upgraded gun (and I mean past all conventional and custom upgrades) there would be the slightest chance this might happen . But this is almost nigh on impossible. you might jump around and clutch your knee from the hit of a stock gun, but it's very unlikely it'll leave more than a welt. As for the face mask, you'd have to show us the make/model. Was a paintball mask, or an Airsoft mask? -Alex (Bobthelumherjack[at]gmail.com)
:: like Alex said, it would require a realy powerfull gun, and at really close range too. I've seen it happen only once (see under IronMan on this page) and that was at a range of 2 metres or so. Range is mostly your friend in such matters, because BB's are so light, and have so little mass, they tend to lose velocity and kinetic energy really fast through friction with air. The guy I know who did got hurt recovered very nicely in no time at all. It was just a miniscule tear in his skin, right above a bloodvessel, which looks bad, but the bruising and wound have completely disapeared in days. (just make sure you have some form of iodine ready to clean the wound). He was only wearing protective glasses by the way, not a full-face mask. Kluner.net 07:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Airsoft Safety concerns 

message: Omit the Airsoft vs. Paintball part of this article...the controversy serves no useful purpose within the article. Alternately, taking a lead from user -b, add a discussion of "Airsoft vs. Real Airguns," i.e. the kind that shoot metallic ammo (my opinion). Seriously, I'm sick to death of people muddling up 6mm airsoft rounds with diablo pellets and genuine BBs--which only come in 4.5mm, otherwise they'd be BBBs or Bs, see? Even Amazon.com is confused on this score. Can't there be a better term for 6mm plastic rounds?
:: I have replaced nearly all references to "Pellet" with the term "BB" to reflect my airsoft experiences over the last 5 years. I've *never* heard them routinely called pellets by any group in the US or UK, or any english-speaking (typing?) forum user from another country. I also clarified in the opening paragraphs of the article that "airsoft guns shoot 6 or 8mm spherical plastic pellets (called BBs)" - hopefully making it clear to all that they are *not* the same as traditional wasp-waisted metal pellets. Currently the AvP discussion is pretty straightforwad with no Non-neutral POV, thanks to Doncommie!Jonathonbarton 19:43, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well Done! Jonathonbarton 21:31, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparisons With Paintball Comments 

message: Full size replica weapons in Malaysia are illegal. Pretty much goes along similar guidelines as in neighbouring Singapore.
What are legal, and openly sold however, are Mini-AEG's, the half size, obviously plastic, toy versions of Automatic Electric Guns (mini MP5's, AK-47's, etc). Presumably this is because they do not look like the real thing and are then not considered replicas. Special bob 22:22, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Malaysia? 

message: Could any Singaporean confirm those statements are true? I have never seen any shop selling airsoft guns in Singapore. --BorgQueen 17:36, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't speak officially, but this comes from the RedWolf Airsoft FAQs: 
"Where do you ship? We ship all over the world; from Alaska to Russia. For countries where there exist requirements regarding the appearance of airsoft guns, we will perform the appropriate modifications prior to shipping. For countries and cities where airsoft is illegal, shipping is at the customer's own risk and RedWolf Airsoft Specialists will not be held liable for seizures by customs. Examples include Australia, Singapore, Korea, and Indonesia." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.92.237.76 (talk • contribs)  23:07, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singapore? 

message: Replicas are prohibited. Airsoft guns are not replicas, in the sense that they discharge projectiles which can cause severe injury. you wouldnt point a psg-1 to your eyeball. not legal, and not illegal. airsoft sits in the grey area. there is a very active canadian airsoft connunity and several canadian airsoft dealers. i'm going to edit this.
198.166.226.14 20:50, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canada? 

message: (Unsigned comments moved from references section of main article by Wulfilia 13:28, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Airsoft Companies Comments 

message: The merits of a websites wares is not relevant... if its a commercial website the link is spam. Wikipedia suggest that if the information’s relevant you are "encouraged to add content instead of links to the encyclopedia". There seem to be several spammy links in this articles External Links section. 69.72.7.28 03:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Added (Cleanup-spam) tag to External Links. I was chasing down spam by following spammer's histories and many lead to this section. I would suggest that this article should be about Airsoft.. i.e. a description, and not a collection of links useful to the Airsoft enthusiast WP:NOT. An Airsoft enthusiast website is the proper place for such links, not Wikipedia. 69.72.93.165 12:56, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just restored a  tag that had been removed by an editor whose contributions to this section have been questionable. This restore is without judgement on whether the section still merits this tag. / edgarde 21:06, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  can we clean up the spam? 

message: There seems to be some confusion as to what constitutes and external link. Wikipedia articles are not guides or linkfarms for hobbies or organizations WP:NOT#DIRECTORY and they do not offer walkthroughs, guidance, or recommendations WP:NOT#INDISCRIMINATE. A link to be avoided is any site that does not provide a unique resource beyond what the article would contain if it became a Featured article (WP:LINKS). In other words the links should be to specific information that would/could/should be in the article. Most of these links (the ones that were not forums or blogs) were to home pages for organizations and did not link specific information. 69.72.93.247 17:45, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Link cleanup

message: Hi, I have a Steyr AUG that i just brought a month ago. The manual says i should only use 8.4volt 600 Mah mini-batteries but i thought they were too weak. So instead i brought a 9.6volt 1500 mah mini-battery. (There's only two kinds of mini-batteries available from where i play airosft.) I got a good response from my gun for now but i'm not sure weather my gun will eventually break.
:: Any of the forums listed in the External Links section would be a perfect place to ask this question. This page is for discussing the contents and modification of the Airsoft Page it links to. My personal recommendations would be Airsoft Retreat or Arnies Airsoft. Thanks for stopping by! Jonathon Barton 17:36, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gun Batteries 

message: Hi, I came to the Airsoft page by accident as it was redirected from Wargame. Trying to find the minatures hobby. I have since found that the page I was actually looking for is Wargaming.
I was following a link on the Origins International Game Expo page. So that page probably needs to have its link fixed. But I thought it would also be useful to add a if you are looking of the minatures game goto wargaming bit to the beginning of the page (or something like that :). Since this is not my topic I thought it best to post this idea here rather than add to it myself.
--TenguTech 12:55, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wargame and Wargaming 

message: I brought a battery charger that uses Amps to define power , but i'm more used to using the MAH scale. Can you tell me how many MAHs is an AMP?
:As has been said before, the best place to go with questions of this nature is to a dedicated airsoft forum such as Airsoft Retreat, Arnie's Airsoft or ASCUK. This page is for discussing the Airsoft article only. However, I'll give you a heads up- mAh and Amp are used for measuring different things- mAh is capacity and Amp is electrical current. -Madbrood 12:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Batteries 

message: As the article has grown so some pages where created (airsoft equipment and then airsoft guns). Now it seems more confusion has set in on this page by trying to describe both the sport and the guns (for which there is a separate article), causing lots of duplication.
In order to clean this page up and properly separate the sport from the guns I have done the following:
*Addition of DAB note for te Airsoft guns page to the top (according to standard WP practice, see Wikipedia:Disambiguation)
*Cleaned up intro to refer to the sport only instead of trying to do a disambig of the topic
*Moved "gun" related sections to the Airsoft gun page where it is supposed to go
*Moved section describing the sport to the top, because that is what the article should cover
*Merged the leftovers from Airsoft equipment (which should now be removed) into this page, because it describes equipment used in the sport with links to expanded pages for Airsoft pellets, Airsoft guns etc.
I think it is much better and clearer now.
Deon Steyn 10:07, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambig (scope) 

message: I will be doing a major cleanup of this article to bring up its standards. For the time being, please do not edit it to make this easier for me. (|-- UlTiMuS ( U • T • C | M • E )  22:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done for the time being. I cleaned up to Comparisons with paintball, for the record. (|-- UlTiMuS ( U • T • C | M • E )  23:17, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major edit 

message: Recently I've been trying to get this article's quality up, and one of the ways it could really benefit is from appropriate citations. There are almost none here, and for an article of this size and scope, that's really not excusable. Anybody who can verify and add references to any part of this article is strongly encouraged to include them. It would help a lot and would be much appreciated. (|-- UlTiMuS ( U • T • C | M • E )  03:58, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request Sources 

message: No point to keep these two seperate. The main article already covers much of the content in the other one. There's a lot of redundancy here, and the main article could certainly use a more in-depth treatment of equipment. If there are no timely objections, I will do the merge myself. (|-- UlTiMuS ( U • T • C | M • E )  06:43, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Three or four headings higher on this talk page ("Disambig scope") you will see that I recently took the contents from the airsoft equipment page and merged it into "airsoft" so that it can be deleted. Shall we delete or just redirect? --Deon Steyn 10:24, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I see the merge tag now, but like I said, the merge has been done and the equipment page can now be removed. --Deon Steyn 10:26, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I see. I figured most of it was merged, anyway. I will be doing cleanup and listing the old page for deletion, then. (|-- UlTiMuS ( U • T • C | M • E )  01:03, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Note, the article Airsoft equipment was deleted through AfD. --UNHchabo 02:57, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Airsoft equipment'' merge

message: In the Airsoft Projectile section, at the end of the section is this:
"BUT YES < AIRSOFT GUNS CAN NOT BE CONVERTED TO FIRE REAL BULLETS  < IT WORKS"
Okay it's been fixed. 66.168.207.105 22:39, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like someone a) needs remedial English classes, and b) is looking to have their hand blown off through their own work. Thanks for taking care of that. --UNHchabo 03:47, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What the? 

message: Ok, I've started a section of footnotes. Anytime an external source is cited, put it here. If we entirely migrated to this system rather than generic "External Links", maybe it would cut down the spam. --UNHchabo 06:04, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Footnotes

message: :I am a new member, I joined yesterday. I am sorry if I merged the airsoft sport page and the airsoft guns page, I myself am an avid airsoft enthusisist(I own 6 airsoft guns and play aisoft reguarly with my friends).  We all practice safty precations thougth. I would like if some of you would edit the colum I wrote(#6) titled Differant airsoft guns on the bottom of the page.01:54, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that my section should stay because it saves time. I will simplify it if you want me too.  i couyld add a link to the guns page.GuyDoe 21:27, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bud, I don't think anyone's contested the content you've added.  There's no problem with having a small section here and the main article elsewhere.  If Airsoft guns is merged here, then we can just replace the section.  I've also cleaned up everything you've written; your grammar's not so great :).  You'll get better, don't worry.  DoomsDay349 22:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sorry

message: Removed gibberish "other uses" on top of the page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 216.226.108.201 (talk) 15:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted your edit: it's not gibberish.  --ElKevbo 15:55, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor Edit

message: "AEGs (Automatic Electric Guns) are the most common high price range airsoft guns because of there high rate of fire and the convenience of automatic fire with out the need for gas."
There =/= their
22-Feb-07 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.213.101.250 (talk) 21:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Grammar!

message: I edited the Controversey section a little bit.
I think it helps the article flow a lil' better, and it's a little more specific now.
-Vic
Victory0985 01:34, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor Edit 

message: I modified the introductory statement to reflect the overall scope of equipment used and gameplay involved in Airsoft.
Also, I moved some of the content to a new "History" section.
UTF-NeonDevil 19:54, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modified Introductory Statment; History Section 

message: First off, there needs to be a de-POV of the "Airsoft Online" section, it says something like "irresponsible" retailers.
Also, I believe the LEGAL limit for Airsoft is 16, not 18. It says on the packages, but most retailers will not SELL to minors.--24.245.11.103 00:37, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed it. The current culprit is "the anonymity of the Internet" and there is no age limit. If anyone has any other information, please give it (I couldn't find anything to contradict it). --24.245.11.103 02:13, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The LEGAL limit for buying and/or owning an airsoft replica varys from country to country. --Madbrood 20:27, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age policies 

message: Since it is already has its own separate article, I don't think the specific laws need to mentioned. 65.197.192.130 23:29, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Airsoft laws from around the world