Talk:List of Formula One circuits

message: I find it great that all trackmaps are included, that they have a consistent style and legends. However I wanted to note, that it would be great if future versions could be done in SVG, so they are scalable. Imho I haven't found many ressources for scalable trackmaps. So this would be quite great. Dahie (talk) 08:18, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  SVG-Maps 

message: Added Valencia Street Circuit as it is confirmed for 2008 John Hayes 14:37, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Valencia 

message: I adding marks on tipe of the track.The Tramp 21:23, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  street circuit 

message: I'm not very happy with future dates in the table. There is - just - a case for adding 2008 for tracks which are in next year's published calendar, but nothing's a fact till it has happened! -- Ian Dalziel 10:19, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I think including future years in the "Season(s)" column opens the possibility for confusion regarding the "Total" column. Consider Albert Park: The "Season(s)" column says "1996-2008" and the "Total" column says "12". I can imagine a casual reader saying "1996-2008 - isn't the 13 races?". I'd like to see the "Season(s)" column split into two column: "Races which have already been held" (but with a better/shorted name) and "Planned/expected/contracted future races". I'd even consider putting current season races which haven't actually been held yet in the "future" column, and then move them across to the "races which have been held" column once the race is run. DH85868993 10:29, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2011 

message: "Aintree was a purpose built race circuit, not a road circuit. (80% is still intact.) On the plan, Sefton Straight should be shown as the straight between points 2 & 3 (a commonly repeated mistake). Railway Straight (singular) is the straight between points 6 & 7. Please amend." Comment added to article by Speedsport (Talk); transferred to talkpage by DH85868993 (talk) 20:34, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aintree 

message: I added a column for the countries in which the circuits are located. I find it good to be able to sort the table along that line. It was undid because the flags was deemed unnecessary. Why not just remove the flags then??? John Anderson  (talk) 11:58, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The flags have definitely got to go. The country column itself I don't have a huge problem with, but it's certainly superfluous. There's already a column for the Grand Prix and in 95% of cases, the name of the country and the name of the Grand Prix are the same. What's the point? Bretonbanquet (talk) 12:06, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Flags definately need to be erased. They should never be used purely for decorative purposes, which they are here. --Falcadore (talk) 13:33, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, the flag may be removed, they are not important. I find it interesting, however, to be able to sort and see which and how many circuits have been used in different countries. That is the main reason for the column. What do you have against that? John Anderson  (talk) 05:01, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That explanation is on my talk page where you asked me directly. --Falcadore (talk) 05:36, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't, I directed you here. John Anderson  (talk) 09:04, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: and yet the power could be yours... --Falcadore (talk) 11:34, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

text: I don't understand why we don't want flags on the list. It's a list of circuits, which are actual places of a country.  Bly000 (talk) 13:14, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Column for countries 

message: Should there be a * or something similar next to the dates on the Bahrain GP and a section of text at the bottom saying that it was originally on the 2011 calendar and it has not yet been decided if it will happen. Sas1998 (talk) 13:29, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, but I added the * next to the circuit's name rather than the dates, since the dates are now only updated after a race has been held. DH85868993 (talk) 03:40, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

text: I don't think we should, unless we are going to include a note for every cancelled Grand Prix. --Falcadore (talk) 00:43, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: But that's the point: as I understand it, it hasn't yet been decided whether the race will be cancelled or held later in the year. If it's decided in May that the race is cancelled, I would then remove the note. DH85868993 (talk) 01:21, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't think that's speculatory?  --Falcadore (talk) 01:35, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really. There will be a meeting on May 1 to decide whether or not there will be a F1 race held at the circuit in 2011 (see http://www.formula1.com/news/headlines/2011/3/11797.html). My main rationale for adding the note was to clarify the term "current tracks": since we don't know for sure the race will be held, I don't think we can definitively state that Bahrain is a current circuit, but since the race hasn't definitely been cancelled, I also don't think we can definitely state that it's not a current circuit. Having said that, I'm not especially passionate about the note being there - feel free to remove it if you want to. If you do, you may also choose to remove the similar note from List of Formula One Grands Prix. DH85868993 (talk) 04:55, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  2011 Bahrain 

message: Someone left a feedback suggesting that it might be a good idea to have a short note explaining which circuits are anti-clockwise circuits. Most are clockwise, so the note could go something like, "All circuits are clockwise apart from x, y and z". Thoughts? Bretonbanquet (talk) 19:47, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me. DH85868993 (talk) 02:11, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If it can be reliably sourced then I'm all for it. NapHit (talk) 16:17, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Track direction

message: There is a section which is named Proposed circuits. I think that it should be re-named to Future circuits, because if we were to put every proposed track in there it would also include Rome and London. The two circuits which are currently present in that section are officially announced (if not contracted). Sas1998 (Talk) 16:31, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think there is an issue. The prose in the section clearly states that these circuits will be included in the future, whereas there is no clarification that either of the Rome or London circuits will be included anytime soon. NapHit (talk) 18:22, 10 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed circuits? 

message: I have an issue with the "Fair Park" name. I've heard it described as "State Fair Park", "Texas State Fair Park" of even just "Dallas", but never "Fair Park". My friend who lives in the area and was at the race in question just laughed when I mentioned the name used here. Could we get a realistic revision?Will102 (talk) 02:49, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The circuit is named after the park, which is, in fact, named Fair Park.  If you have sources that state otherwise, I would suggest posting on the Talk Page for the park. JohnMcButts (talk) 03:26, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Is google wrong? Google maps has Fair Park written all over everything around the old Cotton Bowl. --Falcadore (talk) 09:43, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Google lists several places on their map, which are in white font, as "XXXXX at Fair Park", such as Music Hall at Fair Park, Children's Aquarium at Fair Park, as well as Fair Park itself. In green font, which is an event/attraction, it lists Texas State Fair. For what it's worth, here is their official website. Twirlypen (talk) 05:49, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The debate was about the name of the venue, not the name of the event (which is Dallas Grand Prix in any event). --Falcadore (talk) 06:36, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Which was why I said what I said. There's no mention of State Fair Park or Texas State Fair Park, and I provided a link to the official website, which is simply fairpark.org ... and mentioning that the event labeled as Texas State Fair had no bearing on what the area of the circuit was and is actually called. Twirlypen (talk) 07:00, 29 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: We seem to be pretty inconsistent about it as well. Here we call it Fair Park. At the  season article we just call it Dallas and at the circuit's article we call it "Dallas Grand Prix circuit. Tvx1 21:53, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  1984 Dallas track 

message: I would like to point at inappropriate map of F1 circuits: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Formula_1_all_over_the_world-2016-new.svg
Concretely, the map shows Russian borders including Crimea, a Ukrainian terrirory, annexed by Russia on March, 2014: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation
This territory is not recognized as Russian one by UN and majority of countries: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Annexation_of_Crimea_by_the_Russian_Federation#Recognition
As any sport tends to be apolitical, I recommend to make changes to the map, excluding Crimea peninsula from the territories (actually, countries) marked as those which have hosted a Grand Prix in 2015.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.118.123.231 (talk) 14:21, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inappropriate map of F1 circuits (Crimea peninsula) 

message: It would be maybe a good idea to include the track elevation change values for each circuit if known.
Pvass68 (talk) 09:30, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this is getting into the realm of WP:CRUFT and WP:NOTSTATS. I don't think it's necessary at all. NapHit (talk) 09:33, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  The banking of oval tracks are in the articles, too. I don't see a big difference between a banking info and a elevation change info. --Mark McWire (talk) 12:41, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Track's elevation change 

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message: Shouldn't the two layouts for the Indianapolis Motor Speedway track be one entry as it is the same facility but another layout?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SSSB (talk • contribs) 17:35, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indianapolis Motor Speedway 

message: Could there be a colour code for the circuits that are no longer in existence or no longer viable? For example the Autódromo Internacional Nelson Piquet was demolished in 2012 for the Olympics.
Edd of Mercia (talk) 13:00, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demolished circuits 

message: Circuit Gilles Villeneuve is not listed in Street circuit.  There is no mention of "street" on its page.  The images on its page show no public streets.  So how is it a street circuit? --Vossanova o< 14:19, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Circuit Gilles Villeneuve]] 

message: I thought they canceled Vietnam and Italy. The Mo-Ja'al (talk) 22:36, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Italy has been confirmed for 5 September and Vietnam has been postponed indefinitely. See F1 2020 for refs on this.SSSB (talk) 22:45, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  2020 Vietnam and Italy 

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message: Currently there are listed just one direction for each circuit used. However, Indianapolis ran anti-clockwise when Indianapolis 500 was in the calendar as opposed to clockwise in United States Grand Prix. Another circuit to change is Kyalami, as the old circuit used until 1985 was clockwise and 1992-93 one anti-clockwise. 
Also, Monza was a figure-of-eight circuit when oval section was used, right? BleuDXXXIV (talk) 12:01, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Monza wasn't a figure of eight. Yes, it crossed itself, but both "loops" ran in the clockwise direction. Anyway, I think that the current approach is to list the direction which corrosponds to the citcuit layout (i.e. the last used direction)  SSSB (talk) 12:23, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Circuits run in both directions 

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message: There has never been a Grand Prix in Ukraine, but the south of Ukraine is currently shaded. This needs to be corrected. 188.95.54.29 (talk) 14:09, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Ukrainian grands prix 

message: Nordschleife is missing. Tangost1 (talk) 18:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: No its not. It is listed under Nürburgring which is the venue name (Nordschleife is simply the name of a configuaration of the circuit). As per the info at the top the article, the most recent layout used (from 2020 Eifel Grand Prix) is shown.  SSSB (talk) 21:30, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: they need to be separated because the page is a "list of circuits" and GP-strecke, Nordschleife are different circuits. They are not just a minor curve tweak or something they are distinctly two very different tracks. The page is a farce if it does include a famous long one... how am I supposed to accurately compare lengths over time? Tangost1 (talk) 15:30, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: "Circuit" describes the venue. Nordschliefe and GP-Strecke are alternate layouts of the same circuit/venue - the Nurburgring. Otherwise we would need a new entry every time a layout changed (your idea to determine how different a layout is before deciding whether it seserves its own entry would be arbitary WP:OR and unencylopdic.) How would you compare laps over time? Even with your proposed change you couldnt do that. Spa's length has halved, so has Interlagos and Zandvoort. Hockenheim and Monza are about 40% shorter. Paul Ricard went from 5.8 k, to 3.8 back to 5.8. How layouts have chnaged over time is beyond thr scope of this list.  SSSB (talk) 16:03, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is Nordschleife?