Talk:Downtown (Petula Clark song)

message: Could I ask who removed the original black-and-white single sleeve for the Clark infobox and what their reasoning was? This current one appears to be for an album, not the single. If there's a decent single sleeve available, which there was, it should be used for the single and the album cover reserved for an album article.  Cheers, Ian Rose 01:48, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I agree - the current image seems to be an album sleeve; therefore it doesnt belong on this article. The original picture should be reinstated imo Rimmers 01:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Clark single sleeve

message: As fare as I understand, Tony Hatch wrote the english text. But who were the authors of the french, german and italian version? I can't imagin they are also from Hatch. The artikel mentions so many details about the song and its versions but this information is missing. --84.58.169.169 21:30, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Author of the texts 

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thread_title:  Dead link 

message: Since the images, :File:Dollydowntown.jpg and :File:DowntownEmmaBuntonCover.jpg, and the sound files, :File:Downtown by Petula Clark.ogg and :File:DowntownSample.ogg have been removed by one editor citing WP:NFCC and reverted by three other editors also citing WP:NFCC, I am starting a discussion here so that the images is not deleted simply for being orphaned.
The single covers for the Dolly Parton and Emma Bunton cover versions pass the points of WP:NFCC. WP:NFCC#3 is met because the single covers is used for identification its respective versions and Petula Clark single cover cannot convey equivalent significant information and/or identification of the cover versions.  WP:NFCC#8 is met because the single covers are used for identification and the images increas readers' understanding and not having them would be detrimental to the understanding of the cover versions.  The single covers passes the first example of acceptable use of fair images at WP:NFCI: "Cover art: Cover art from various items, for visual identification only in the context of critical commentary of that item (not for identification without critical commentary)."
The current consensus for single covers in section infoboxes to represent notable cover versions are that they pass WP:NFCC and WP:NFCI. Since WP:SONGCOVER says notable cover versions should be covered in the article about the song and not have its own article, but if they had their own articles, the images would be acceptable there, so they are acceptable in the sections of the song article. The single covers are not alternate covers for Petula Clark cover, it is the primary cover for the cover versions and should be treated as such. If it is felt that the images should still be removed than the images should be taken to Wikipedia:Files for deletion instead of simply removed from the article. 
The current consensus for sound files are that they are acceptable for use in single/song articles as long as they are small samples of the song. Aspects (talk) 18:37, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: KEEP: Both are notable cover versions of a well-known singer. And the cover versions have a couple of sub-sections. So they deserve a single art cover just like the original version.--SuperHotWiki (talk) 00:33, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fair use of notable cover version single covers and sound files 

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message: I don't see why any cover version deserves a huge, article-length treatment within this song article.  It is totally out of proportion and is full of trivial details.  E.g., the full chart history; why is not the chart history of every cover version not given equally exaggerated treatment?  At best, most of this should be moved to the Emma Bunton article, and if it doesn't belong there, it doesn't belong anywhere.  Zaslav (talk) 01:00, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emma Bunton cover 

message: I think that including information about the suspect who used this song in the course of his evil and atrocious act is disrespectful to Petula Clark, who is a currently a 88 year old woman, and anyone who worked on this song, 56 years before the date the incident occured. It is irrelevant information about the song and does not expand knowledge regarding it. It's only relevance should be included in the article regarding the incident itself. I encourage those who edit the articles on wikipedia to please remove it. Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qellowszach (talk • contribs) 14:51, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I could go along with that. GA-RT-22 (talk) 20:48, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Please exclude the use of this song by the Nashville suspect

message: Hi. New here so I apologise for overlooking protocols and conventions. Listening to “Petula Clark Downtown. original version” on YouTube and reading in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_(Petula_Clark_song) that the second take was ultimately chosen as the completed track, I noticed a couple of misaligned beats, one 2 minutes 11 seconds into the song, the other at 2 minutes 47 seconds. If these are joins where different takes were edited together then the second take was not chosen as the completed track. Any suggestions for representing this in en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Downtown_(Petula_Clark_song) ? --GlenCrust (talk) 11:29, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You would need a reliable source for that. See WP:V and WP:OR. GA-RT-22 (talk) 20:55, 12 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recording 

message: We've been extremely lenient with the list of cover versions. Most are not notable and do not merit inclusion per WP:COVERSONG. I have removed the ones for which we no source and no article (in any language) for the band. I believe most of the rest should be removed too. GA-RT-22 (talk) 00:49, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It's time for the cover version section to be blown away, reduced to WP:COVERSONG qualifiers. I'll start soon. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 04:04, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I just zapped 'em all. There were few or no COVERSONG qualifiers. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 22:21, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cover versions