Talk:Saloon

message: "2. The best part of a traditional British pub. No longer present in most establishments."  What does this mean?  Is it an inside joke that will be understood only by Brits?  Friday 2 July 2005 03:42 (UTC)
: No. Traditionally, pubs consisted of several rooms like a house (the name is short for "public house", after all). Almost all pubs would have had at least a "saloon" and a "public bar"; other rooms one might encounter are the "snug", the "smoke room", the "tap room", etc. In a two-room pub in the past, the drinks in the saloon would have been slightly more expensive in return for nicer surroundings - carpeted floor, soft seats, and a more decorous atmosphere. The public bar would have had stone or wooden floors, hard seats, and possibly ankle-deep sawdust to soak up any spills, mud from labourers' boots, etc. The beer in the public bar would be a little cheaper.
: In the fifties, sixties and seventies, many or most pubs were "modernised" by being opened up to a single large room. This is now considered a great mistake by many drinkers, particularly since it usually involved the destruction of historic and sometimes lavish interior decorations. 
: Some pubs do still have multiple rooms, sometimes still given the traditional names, but they don't charge different prices and the standard of decoration is usually more or less the same throughout. PeteVerdon 12:09, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
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message: It'd be interesting to have some sort of history or account of american saloons pre-prohibition rather than just linking to the bar article.  The saloon seems to have been a much different place.  One of the main political forces to push national prohibition through in 1920 in the US was the [anti-saloon league].  Their purpose was not solely to ban alcohol, but to ban saloons as a side effect of banning alcohol
198.175.55.6 15:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pre-prohibition american saloons? 

message: During my several trips to Malaysia and Singapore over the years, I have seen many examples of shops that are called "saloons" that are actually hair "salons".  The first time I saw a Malaysian saloon, I was confused by all the pictures of hairstyles in the windows.  I asked my Malaysian friends about this and learned that a saloon is where you get your hair cut and styled.  In the Malaysian language (Bahasa Melayu), they can be called "kedai rambut".
I believe that this must have derived from the Malaysian habit of incorporating English words into the local lexicon.  At some point, somebody wanted to make their "kedai rambut" seem more worldly by using an English word.  They mistakenly used the word saloon instead of salon.  It has since been copied by so many shop owners that it is now commonplace.  It's also common in Malaysia's neighbor, Singapore, which was part of Malaysia until the 1960s.
Given my anecdote and theory, my question is, should this usage of "saloon" be included on this disambiguation page?
--Lance E Sloan 18:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice story. I believe saloon=salon in other parts of the world too. But note: a) dab pages are for distinguishing articles, they are not for including content; b) so, you could start an article on saloon=salon, BUT: c) WP is NOT a dictionary, so it would be better to just put saloon as a synonym of salon in the Wiktionary. Hope this helps! --maf (talk-cont) 21:42, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saloon = Salon in Malaysian & Singaporean English