Talk:Primus (band)

message: Is it relevant to add in that Primus wanted a heavier sound in the Antipop days so they tuned most songs to dropped d tuning? I thought it was a cool fact. Tanner9461 (talk) 15:38, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool fact, yeah, if you have a good source for it. --Say Headcheese!--hexaChord2 15:48, 22 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Only if it's really reliable. Fan work won't be accepted I fear. --Say Headcheese!-hexaChord2 20:08, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Antipop dropped d tuning

message: I think the section about subliminal messages should be deleted. All the things mentioned about the songs are just the actual song meanings. They aren't subliminal messages. And Primus isn't "known" for having subliminal messages in their songs. The fact that there are only six songs mentioned just proves it. Also, the section was made by someone who couldn't spell. I made three corrections to it. That has nothing to do with anything I've said, I just thought I'd mention it. -dayve_57
Yeah, especially because none of the "subliminal" messages are subliminal.  Of course Too Many Puppies is an anti-war song.  Who actually thinks it's about puppies with guns in their hands? Facamus 07:29, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: "Subliminal" Section

message: Where's the name Primus come from?
-Primus was originally called Primate until another band called The Primates threatened legal action. Les claypool allegedly selected "Primus" as the closest thing to "Primate" in the dictionary, though he has been known to claim that Primus "was the closest thing that rhymed with anus". Primus is Latin for "the first".
How do you pronounce their name?
Pr-EYE-mus  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.208.91 (talk) 19:45, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: Someone said that "The video to "Riddles Are Abound Tonight" - featuring the band in blue leotards performing on stationary bicycles - was the impetus for Beavis's Cornholio character when it appeared on Beavis and Butt-head."
The idea for Cornholio was just something Mike Judge thought of, just something that he saw kids doing. He says that himself in the newest DVD that came out, ppl need to check facts here! I went ahead and got rid of the last bit of that line that connects the two. Hope you all dont mind.
The music video for "DMV" was featured in a Beavis and Butthead episode, but other than that, you're right, no connection.--24.119.143.87 (talk) 02:09, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Beavis has no Primus connection

message: This has to be one of the most POV pieces I've ever read.  Basically every sentence is ridiculously slanted against this album.  As a huge Primus fan, the Brown Album is maybe my favorite album.  Also, to say that Brain's drumming is inferior to Alexander's is a ridiculous statement.  Brain is considered one of the foremost studio drummers, and is highly sought after.  To compare the two is ridiculous.  The only reason I'm not going to edit it is because I am such a huge fan of this album I wouldn't want to slant it the other way.  It is in DESPERATE need of change though. Flannel 00:59, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Brown Album

message: what episode makes a ref about primus? i havent seen it.
It is the episode where Peter goes to the doctor to get a prostate exam. He is talking to an old sailor about how he does not want to have his prostate checked and the sailor shows him a few roll down pictures from his arm, most notably a diseased prostate and a primus poster.
Yeah it was a random instance where the sailor shows a quick shot of a Primus poster.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tanner9461 (talk • contribs) 22:04, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  family guy ref 

message: some one should put in that they played at bonnaroo 04 and include the band "blind illusion" that les played in previous to primus.primus also played a show in wisconsin in 05 at a festival titled hedgepeth ..spelling may be incorrect , these things may be considered suitable to this article..hope somebody else thinks so...-butter
:From what I can see, Hedgpeth is mentioned. But not Bonnaroo. --Machchunk | make some noise at me 01:21, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: blind illusion and bonnaroo

message: The "Captain Peirce" of the Richmond fire department was a real person; I knew a guy on the RFD and he told me that he was a firefighter who did retire. I can't cite a source, should this be added to the "Song content" section? Cranialsodomy 20:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jerry was a race car driver 

message: Perhaps this is completely irrelevant, but I found some interesting nods to Pee Wee Herman throughout Primus's Career. 
*Danny Elfman's soundtrack to Pee Wee big adventure was used by the band as the lead up music before comming on stage during their 'Tour De Fromage' 
*Les and the gang made extensive use of 'headlight glasses' during the show.  Headlight glasses were featured in Pee Wee's big adventure
*After learning the Alamo dosn't have a basement, Pee Wee dresses up in a loud and gaudy cowboy outfit that is a very close match to the outfits worn in Primus's "Winona's big brown beaver" music video. 
I haven't heard any of the band members talk about Pee Wee explicitly, but 'The Pee Wee Herman Show' would have been airing while the band members had just formed up, and could easily have been viewed by band members.  Anyone else notice any other references to Pee Wee in Primus's work? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.113.204.223 (talk) 04:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pee Wee Herman influence? 

message: Im probably being stupid here, but isn't the subtitle under the first picture "Primus, left to right: Les Claypool, Tim Alexander, Larry LaLonde in a promo picture circa 1995" incorrect? I thought it was actually L-R Tim "Herb" Alexander, Larry "Ler" LaLonde and then the dirty ol' Les Claypool in that order.
Can any y'all fix it? I'm too lazy to work it out myself. And maybe a little stupid. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.74.195.206 (talk) 09:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo subtitle error??? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Antipopcover.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Miscellaneous Debris.jpg

message: Hi folks, I've removed the piles of non-free images from the discography section again. I think these serve their purpose in the Primus discography article, as they serve to illustrate the albums, and album art is often important when considering themes etc presented in an album. However, here they serve as little other than decorative and space-filling. 
Overuse of non-free images is a violation of our policy on nonfree images/media. Please don't re-add them again, because there's no good reason to add them here. Riana ⁂ 09:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Re-adding the images while logged out is highly counterproductive. I strongly recommend that whoever is doing this stops immediately. Riana ⁂ 16:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of excess non-free images 

message: It says in the article that the original Primus (Claypool, Huth, Lane) were active from 1984 until 1988. Is this correct, because Claypool not only auditioned for Metallica in 1986 but joined Blind Illusion and recorded and toured with them, where he met Larry LaLonde and resigned along with him to reform Primus. This sort of makes it sound like the original Primus broke up in 1986. If I'm wrong (I probably am) could somebody explain what was happening there?  03:45, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Primus breakup 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:All-primus-flyer.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Primus-bungle-melvins-flyer.jpg

message: Is there no other main picture we can use for the article? I think it's rather stupid that its a picture with Brain in it, when he isn't even in the band anymore. Can we not find a single useable picture with Tim Alexander in it?--Pritoolmachine2806 (talk) 02:12, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Picture 

message: I find it strange how there's no mention of the influence The Residents has had on the band. Their sound is very similar to The Residents. And Primus has even performed some of their songs as well as Les wearing an eyeball shirt from time to time..  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.142.126.59 (talk) 10:04, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Residents Influence

message: In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) 
* "All Music Guide" :
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DumZiBoT (talk) 17:05, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bot report : Found duplicate references ! 

message: I think there should be more on his previous bands.
Tanner9461 (talk) 18:52, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And I think that's to go in the Les Claypool article, not the Primus one. --Say Headcheese!-hexaChord2 20:09, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  more background info on Claypool 

message: It's so old!  11 years old!  It should be updated.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.74.162.173 (talk) 00:36, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a better one? --Avant-garde a clue-hexaChord2 05:30, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The picture 

message: I read a while back that Incubus was influenced (early on) primarily by Primus and Red Hot Chili Peppers.  I think it may have been in liner notes for one of their earlier albums, or for their Fungus Amongus re-release.  Can anyone find a creditable/significant reference to cite for this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.114 (talk) 03:51, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Primus as Incubus' influence 

message: Well, that was fun.
Regarding improving the article, can someone explain why Jerry Cantrell is listed as an associated act? I know he's sat in for a few sets and did a song with Les, but I don't see how that associates him with proper weight to mention it in the infobox. If no one objects, I believe I'll remove it per WP:WEIGHT.
Also, Buckethead should really be associated with Les' article and Puscifer with Herb's. Blind Illusion would certainly be more appropriate. And if Oysterhead is mentioned, why not all of Les' solo acts? I think the associated acts needs a major overhaul. DKqwerty (talk) 02:32, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Psychedelic Polka, huh? 

message: Listen, I think "Brain" Mantia is an important piece of Primus histroy, but as of today, he is not Primus' drummer. "Herb" started with Primus (when they went from their first live album, I know he wasn't original) and he was with them when they last toured. I believe a new picture showing Les, Ler, and Herb would be more accurate.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.169.95.115 (talk) 09:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brain in the main pic? 

message: Any chance the new album should be mentioned on the article? I suppose this works as a source and there are plenty of other pages dealing with their album plans so far:  http://www.billboard.com/news/primus-readies-first-new-album-in-11-years-1004115709.story?tag=hpfeed#/news/primus-readies-first-new-album-in-11-years-1004115709.story?tag=hpfeed
Kobb (talk) 01:20, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New album 

message: Why isn't this mentioned at all?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.211.242.197 (talk) 03:37, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question.  Probably lack of reliable sources, since the heyday of this phrase was pre-web, and folks generally don't save their alternative weeklies for two decades.  But yeah, it was arguably a great and perverse marketing move to have their fans spreading the phrase all over, stoking curiosity in the then-cult band. Calbaer (talk) 06:07, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Primus Sucks 

message: Les Claypool requested, while performing at The Fillmore in Charlotte NC, July 20, 2015, that the genre of "Funk Metal" be removed from the Primus Wikipedia entry. He also requested that it be changed to "Psychedelic Viking" music. I see no problem with this change, though it has been flagged as vandalism by another user. If I had a heavy metal band that was incorrectly labeled as folk music, I would request a change as well. I understand that "Les Claypool" does not dictate how Wikipedia works, but the change in genre seems perfectly reasonable. You wouldn't refer to D'Vinci's works as post modernistic. It seems perfectly reasonable to let an artist describe themselves and have it listed appropriately. — Preceding unsigned comment added by SouthernApostle (talk • contribs) 
:It's not at all up to the artist to determine their genre. If an artist is observed by reviewers to be playing funk metal, as Primus was for many years, then the reviewers trump the artist's wishes. Wikipedia greatly prefers WP:SECONDARY sources to primary sources, and Claypool is a primary source. 
:What we do instead is tell the reader that band has been described as funk metal but that Claypool doesn't agree with that assessment. We list the band as funk metal because we respect the large number of high quality secondary sources which say funk metal.
:So Claypool's request will not make a difference in the genres listed at the top right "infobox" of this article. Nothing Claypool can do will change that.  Binksternet (talk) 04:00, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on the discussion I see above, SouthernApostle and I seem to agree. Based on this and the discussion here, I am restoring the version where it is included. BurritoSlayer (talk) 21:09, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claypool's request for change of music genre 

message: Not a reliable source of band influences. Allmusic randomly generates bands based on what they think are the genres. And, as a matter of fact, Allmusic tends to think that nu metal equals funk metal because they don't have a category for funk metal, so lots of nu metal bands are associated with Primus because they think Primus is in the same genre (because, to Allmusic, nu metal is just another name for funk metal). Also particularly check the questionability of claiming Insane Clown Posse was influenced by Primus. ICP is a hip-hop group who have no influence from Primus or any other funk-metal. Allmusic's writers miscategorized ICP as funk-metal because they didn't actually listen to their albums, are straight up hip-hop and no more rock-oriented than most other rap groups. Matter of fact, ICP's members have stated that their influences are Awesome Dre, Ice Cube, Esham and the Geto Boys, predominately, and a little bit of Michael Jackson, Pearl Jam and Gong on specific songs/albums. They've never claimed to have been influenced by Primus, ever. 68.185.2.34 (talk) 18:23, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allmusic's related bands 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The full recording of the Woodstock '94 performance is viewable online, on youtube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-HUK8qR9QA as well as other places.  While some mud may move through the frame, the band doesn't stop playing and Claypool does not give the mentioned "can of worms" quote.
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thread_title:  Woodstock Mud Slinging 

message: There seems to be a lack of variety of images that grasp the performances of Primus. There are only pictures from the tour when Green Naugahyde was released or the picture from 1988. Updates should be made to show the tours from Desaturating Seven or Primus and The Chocolate Factory or Sailing the Seas of Cheese to help show modern Primus and a major benchmark in the making of their music.
A good image to insert might be the one from this webpage article showing Primus during 2015.
http://badfeelingmag.com/2018/01/29/primus-and-mastodon-announce-co-headlining-tour/
The image was taken by Vitor Munhaz on July 15, 2015 at Metropolis in Montreal.
There is also a live performance video from Rockpalast Festival in 1997 that might be a good source for the middle years.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ML1kZ_HoxE
The submitter of the video should not be cited, but the television channel should be. It is a German Broadcast channel.
Teeravj (talk) 23:47, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old and New Images Should be Added 

message: In the Musical style, legacy and influences section, Nuclear Rabbit is not stated, why ?
I think it´s the most close band to Primus you can find.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.63.134.26 (talk) 16:53, 28 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nuclear Rabbit 

message: I realize that the primary purpose of such sections in W'pedia articles is to be a sort of fancruft magnet, reducing the grit drifting through the finer components, but there really does need to be a few standards.
First, merely because someone, somewhere, on some blog with 17 followers once put Primus in a particular (perhaps wholly hallucinatory) pigeonhole DOES NOT put that claim on par with a categorization made by a longtime (and PAID) reviewer working for a magazine/site with a million or more active readers. If you have a choice between the two, then put up only the latter because pasting the former in just makes you look stupid.
Second, there is really NO NEED WHATEVER to put up more than two (okay, sometimes three) citations for a given statement; this ain't  biochemistry. For every addition you make beyond that, readers halve their estimate of your IQ — so you might imagine how low that number has sunk when they see a string of THIRTEEN backing up the "funk metal" categorization. Anyone else should feel empowered to trim this before I choose two.
Also, when discussing nuances of performance technique (or instrument construction, or anything else that requires some technical knowhow), cite a CATEGORICALLY CREDIBLE source. It's unlikely that Rolling Stone or Entertainment Weekly would speak to such with ANY depth (much less authority) simply because that's not what their mass-audience readers want.
The typical fanboy really needs to actually READ THE ARTICLE rather than pop in only to paste up random trivia. Therein, Claypool himself comments derisively on the underlying motive of this section:
::I guess people just have to categorise you.
which makes clear where he stands on the fanboyism.
Most such fancruft sections like to place a decade-old comment in the present tense, maybe hiding an obscure 1993 article (undated in the citation) by putting in a shiny-new Retrieved date. Clarify WHEN the statement was made, and maybe that it's no longer accurate/relevant, and phrase it in the past tense just to be thorough.
The "influenced"/"inspired" nonsense MUST be minimized. Claypool can likely rattle off a hundred or more acts/players that "influenced" him because I can certainly do that. But it also exemplifies the myopia of fanboyism: I can name particular albums, specific songs, and even solos and riffs that had an impact even though NOTHING ELSE from the musician(s) made much impression, and probably Claypool could say the same. (See, most fanboys not being musically inclined, they'd never have experienced such themselves, so they'd be existentially incapable.) And it's not better that EVERY act/player who ever mentions Primus could be cited here, much less that every stoned fanboy who ever says "hmm, that sounds a little like Primus, right?" will feel empowered to tack it up here. Rather than paste together a bunch of scraps culled from all over the media — which like it or not kinda DEFINES synthesis (and therefore is vulnerable to deletion, citations be damned) — instead present ONE OR TWO credible articles that present such a list.
Finally, PLEASE do not paste up EVERY band/musician that's been "associated with" the article's subject. Any act of ANY duration "works with" hundreds of bands and thousands of musicians, and likely meets ten times that many. Here, I've removed the infobox shoutout to Guns 'N Roses because GNR is NEVER mentioned in the article proper; like roaches, this probably means other entries are equally spurious.Weeb Dingle (talk) 16:35, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  the "musical style" part & related stuff 

message: The redirect Primus sucks has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Justarandomamerican (talk) Have a good day! 00:54, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Primus sucks]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: Even though it’s a live album it is their debut and central to their early appeal. I know it’s on the other page, but should be here too. Thomas Tvileren (talk) 16:51, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not a studio album, therefore it should not be included. SpaceHelmetX1 (talk) 20:15, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suck on This should be included in discography