Talk:Oradour-sur-Glane massacre

message: I have spent some time to find definite evidence of what can be read in that "Murphy Report". There is NONE!! Yet there is the slight chance that Lt. Murphy was talking about photographs he had been shown and misinterpreted one of them and wrote his error down in those two handwritten lines below the official type written report because he obviously had forgotten to remember this most dramatic content when he pinned down his memories on several paper sketches on which basis the official report was finally put together.
His grand son, a Ministery of Justice laywer, and professor, made a big deal out of it, failing to check where his grandfather had actually been under Resistance fighter's shelter who had taken the responsibility for the arrangements to fly him back to England. He also failed to locate that "Gerbeau farm" where his grandfather waited for his flight; and he failed to check the distance beteween that farm in the Cher départment and Oradour in Haute-Vienne: 113 miles on German-controlled roads, leading through at least three départments of France. How could Lt. Murphy cover "by bicyle" within a "four-hour drive", as he himself wrote, that distance?? Not speaking a word of French, what did he want in "Oradour" of which village - not town as can be read - he didn't even mention the name? He wasn't on vacation in France but the navigator of a shot down B-17 bomber who had to struggle to get back to England and not driving around with an old bicylce for sightseeing purposes, apparently without any accompanying resistance fighters who had better things to do.
To put an end to all this "sensational news" and this "the only American witness of the Oradour massacre" stuff in several articles in US web journals caused by believing in unchecked tales, or in a fancy interpretation of two handwritten lines the basic irreality of which could have been easily found out by a short look at google maps, here is a link which puts an authoritative endnote to that "fairy tale":
https://www.lepopulaire.fr/oradour-sur-glane-87520/actualites/oradour-la-rumeur-du-bebe-crucifie-sur-la-porte-de-l-eglise-relancee-par-slate-fr_11039618/
For those who don't read French: Robert Hébras, the last surviver of the Oradour massacre striktly dismisses the story of the "crucified baby" as an old legend which is not based on only the slightest truth. The short note was published already in 2014. Will somebody, please, erase this hoax from the main page?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.70.88.41 (talk) 19:07, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: This will not be done. Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:17, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Murphy would not have known who crucified the baby or when it was done. If anyone thinks the French partisan groups were all gentleman patriots, they have much reading to do. They were not averse to fighting each other as they were not a homogenous organization. Republicans, monarchists, communists, fascists, all were represented in the ranks of the various paramilitary groups in France. If editors of this article are convinced that this dead baby existed, fine, but there is no reason to believe, as the article infers, that the Germans did it. Talk about gilding the lily.174.0.48.147 (talk) 03:23, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, considering the fact of the German massacre, there is every reason to believe that the Germans did it, and no evidence whatsoever that partisans did. Not done. Beyond My Ken (talk) 19:06, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Murphy Report