Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anatomy/Archive 1

message: Most of the articles are stubs, and much of the terms are out-of-date.  Does everyone agree to the Terminologia Anatomica (English) standard?  --Mauvila 09:39, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah that was my bad. See the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject. I removed the nonsense from the scope. Quinobi 05:44, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled message

message: Hello,
Please notice this project. 
I hope that the List of publications in medicine will be adopted by the anatomy porject.
Thanks,APH 06:29, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Science pearls| Science pearls]] 

message: I have started a discussion about the more precise anatomical definition of a hymen, and it would be very nice to get input from people with more knowledge on this issue like med students or perhaps even doctors or experts in anatomy. The discussion can be found here.
Peter Isotalo 12:10, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Hymen]] defintion 

message: Would anyone here have the expertise to be able to merge Pelvic floor and Pelvic diaphragm? Thanks. Carcharoth 21:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Now done. Carcharoth 11:16, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging two anatomy articles 

message: Anatomy related articles are listed and reviewed in Medicine Wikiproject. Should we take that list here? Anyway if medicine projects does this job, why do we need this project? NCurse work 15:39, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I could support either approach. The medicine wikiproject hadn't really been doing too much with anatomy, which is why I tried to get this one to be more active. --Arcadian 15:47, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I'd like to help. I ask Medicine Wikiprojects participants about moving that list entirely here. NCurse work 15:51, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Ok, I moved the list here, now we should complete it. Does anybody want to help? :) NCurse work 20:11, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I want anatomy to become active.  It appears that the preclinical medicine project has more people, and so it might be good to start the revival from there, possibly moving here when activity increases.  Who all out there is willing to help? --Mauvila 22:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have microbiology exam inthree days, but then I join. :) Let's make it active. NCurse work 06:56, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medicine project 

message: I (and others perhaps) want to see this project activated in time for fall Gross Anatomy classes in medical schools.  I have (timidly) archived much of the previous talk page that seemed to be inactive.  I think a great job has been done with the port from Gray's Anatomy (images and all).  But there is tons more that needs to be done. 
I think guidelines need to be established.  A few of us have been throwing around some guidelines for the articles at the following page: 
the preclinical guidelines
We need to get a finalized set of guidelines on a subpage in this project, and I'm certainly not comfortable in adopting any without input from more people.  
Moreover, I would like to completely redo the main project page.  The number of articles covered in this project is very large (ligaments, bones, muscles, nerves, arteries, regions, etc.)  It will be impractical to put their statuses on the main project page.  
Most topics are stubs.  Gray's anatomy text is way out of date (in terminology, of course).  
I think this project should become a child of the preclinical medicine project (which covers basic medical sciences), which is itself a child of the medicine project.      
We probably need contributors of the following sort:
*Those who can provide (raw) information on anatomy (students, professors, anatomical hobbyists, etc)
*Prose people - those who can rework an article to make it sound good
*General editors (to make sure articles comply with guidelines, links work, etc)
*Super-wiki-literate people (I'm not that wiki-literate) to manage the projects page (making it work well, like some other projects).  Also to assist with templates, etc.
*Computer gfx artists (perhaps) who can enhance some of the Gray's images, as well as develop schematic diagrams for certain articles.
--Mauvila 21:57, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project reactivation 

message: I was reading hyoid bone, and it occurred to me that it would be great to have a "locator map" showing the position of various anatomical parts on a human skeleton (or substantial portion thereof).  This would work similarly to the ubiquitous Rambot maps - see Carbon County, Pennsylvania for one example - and would require a blank "template" skeleton, with the appropriate bone colored red in each article.  This would be very useful and relativley easy for bones; all that is needed is a good blank template to use.  After that, organs, muscles, and other features could be tackled, although they would be more complex.  Anyway, I think it's a nifty idea and wanted to suggest it somewhere. - Bantman 22:26, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion / proposal 

message: We currently have the following infoboxes for anatomy: Template:Infobox artery, Template:Infobox bone, Template:Infobox brain, Template:Infobox ligament, Template:Infobox muscle, Template:Infobox nerve, Template:Infobox vein, and Template:Infobox anatomy (for structures that don't fit in anywhere else). Nephron has made some suggestions (involving formatting and footnote numbering), and rather than address it on user talk pages, it seemed to make more sense to bring the discussion here, to make it easier for other people to get involved. By the way, I've uploaded a few hundred more of the Gray's images over the last month, but I could use help getting the rest in. You can see which ones are missing (or just uploaded using unknown filenames) at List of images and subjects in Gray's Anatomy. I'm putting the images into commons so they're easier to share with other wikis. --Arcadian 21:47, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added in all those infoboxes in the guideline section, so when someone is creating/modifying the anatomy type articles, they have the infoboxes on their mind to place as appropriate. I thought of putting them on the main anatomy page, but I figured the guideline page was more suitable. Calaka 08:02, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infoboxes 

message: re picture added to Submandibular gland, is there a way within infoboxes to adjust the size of the image used? Image:Gray602.png clearly should not be used at its full size, but the current sizing seems too small. I tried Gray602.png|300px| but I can't get this to work in an infobox. David Ruben  Talk  15:13, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added an optional parameter, 'Width', which overrides the current default of 190. An example of it in use is now available at Submandibular gland. --Arcadian 15:42, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anatomy Infoboxes - image sizes 

message: I have finished uploading the images from Gray's anatomy. A directory is available at List of images and subjects in Gray's Anatomy. --Arcadian 12:34, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good.  We are currently trying to hammer out some new guidelines over at  page.  --Mauvila 21:59, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gray's images 

message: I think the current set of anatomy templates might could use a division, so that the text (attachments, branches of arteries, etc.) isn't hiding in the shadow of the Gray's diagram in the margin. I think diagrams are great in their current location, but maybe the crucial info should assume a more front-and-center position in the article. Of course, this is easy for me to say because I have no idea how to do wiki templates.  
I also think a "relations" section might be useful.  This would mention what is anterior/posterior/etc where relevant.  
--Mauvila 13:21, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can see some advantages to re-ordering. To make it easier for us (and others) to visualize your proposal -- please describe a specific anatomical structure (preferably one with two images on it), and the order of fields that you think would make the most sense. --Arcadian 17:26, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't propose anything radical, but let's take Subclavian artery for example.  Specifically, look at the 'branches' section I added.  My proposal is that we eliminate (for arteries) the TO and FROM parts from the main template in the margins, and make that information front-and-center, as it currently is for 'subclavian artery'.  With many arteries, the most important pieces of information are their source and branches.
An aside: the subclavian article (for example) doesn't have anything about its location between the anterior and middle scalenes, its relations with the first rib, etc.  I guess I'll add some stuff.  --Mauvila 07:43, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

text: If by "front and center", you mean in the body of the article as opposed to the infobox, then I'd recommend that we keep the source and branches in both places -- in the infobox without context, and in the body of the article with clarifying context. (But I'd be interested in hearing what other people think as well.) In Template:Infobox Artery, I've changed the label "From" to become "Source", and "To" to become "Branches". We could also add a new field called "Relations" if you think that would be a good idea. --Arcadian 12:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anatomy templates 

message: Hello. I'm a doctor from Australia. I'm an administrator on wikipedia, and I frequently edit anatomy articles - it's a favorite subject of mine. Do you mind if I join your project? - Richardcavell 23:02, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: By all means, go right ahead.  Any contribution is welcomed.  Fortunately, Arcadian (and others?) has imported an old version of Gray's anatomy and has done a great job with that and the images and things.  Personally, I have recently been going around and updating terms to their modern standard, sometimes cleaning up the old Gray's anatomy format and adding bits and pieces of information when possible.  But anatomy on Wikipedia still has a long way to go and needs all the help it can possibly get.  Mauvila 23:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Let me join Mauvila in welcoming you to the project, and encouraging you to be bold -- there are relatively few people on en.wikipedia working on anatomy (compared to pathology, biochem, etc.), and we can use all the help we can get. --Arcadian 01:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Count me in -- another Austl Dr. I've joined up in Pathology and I'd like to help out in Anatomy as well. Hovea 05:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Just thought I'd help out as well, primarily editing for structure etc. kind regards --Read-write-services 04:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anatomy pages 

message: I've noticed that the whole of anatomy articles are very very very hard to understand for someone who knows nil about anatomy. Because every anatomical part has a function in relation to another part, you have to go through countless articles to even vaguely grasp a single concept. Is there a way we could rewrite these articles so that they speak in more general terms as well as technical terms? --The Prophet Wizard of the Crayon Cake 23:37, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the articles are a bit inaccessible at the moment, and some of the details are sort of circular.  The inaccesibility is part of the process of development for these articles.  For example, many of the articles come from Gray's Anatomy (from early 20th century).  The first step is updating terminology and making the articles independent of the text.  After this, the articles are still "out-of-reach".  I think as the articles continue in their development, they will become more accessible, at least those articles (or sections of articles) that have general interest.  I'm thinking that maybe the first part of the article, sort of the "above the fold" part should be aimed at the typical user, while the details in the subsections should be aimed at those with a basic understanding of anatomy.  That's just my take on it.  You bring up a very important point, and I hope you don't mind, but I changed the section heading of this to accessibility.  There are a lot of issues that need to be resolved.  In many instances, the more accessible the language--e.g. this structure is under (instead of inferior to) this one--the more imprecise.   (If you see things that are very hard to understand, you might want to mention specifically what should be clarified on the talk page.)  Mauvila 01:48, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wish I could help clarifying things, but I'm really not that knowledgable on anatomy. So if I see anything that might need a looksee, I'll let you know. --The Prophet Wizard of the Crayon Cake 08:57, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accessibility 

message: I just put something on the anatomy guidelines talk page about singular versus plural, paired structures, etc...I was just wondering if there were any objections to this policy. Mauvila 19:52, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guidelines 

message: The stub category  is now at eight listings pages:  might be handy to split it up a tad.  I've made a proposal at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Stub_sorting/Proposals/2006/October#Anatomy_subtypes.  (I'd have mentioned this here earlier, but I've only just noticed this wikiproject.)  If anyone has any comments on that proposal, or any further ideas...  Alai 22:10, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anatomy stub type huge: subcats? 

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thread_title:  Project directory 

message: The Manual of Style (Medicine-related articles) is entering a critical stage: I'm informing people to visit the page, make corrections where possible, and then state there support or disagreements on the talk page, so we can see if there is consensus to turn this proposed guideline into a consensus-supported guideline.--Steven Fruitsmaak (Reply) 21:34, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:MEDMOS]] needs YOU! 

message: (Moving thread from User talk:Arcadian)
:I found another seer image that's wrong, this time at Pharynx. From the article text: Oropharynx, which lies behind the oral cavity. The anterior wall consists of the base of the tongue and the vallecula;  ...does that arrow look like it's behind the base of the tongue to you? Robotsintrouble 05:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As with the Brachioradialis image, I'd recommend not deleting the image, but adding a caption annotation addressing inaccuracies in the image. Or, if you're feeling ambitious, you might be able to fix the picture. Since it sounds like your main objection is the position of the arrow, you could just adjust a few dots on the picture (even Microsoft Paint should be sufficent) and adjust it to address your concerns. --Arcadian 04:17, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  (Hope you don't mind me joining the conversation.) Do you mean "delete" as in deleting the image from WP entirely, or as in simply removing it from the article? I agree these images shouldn't be outright deleted, but I think removing them from the article is a step in the right direction. IMO it's better than annotating the error. I tend to agree with Netter that if the image isn't conveying a useful idea (and an erroneous image most certainly isn't), then it's not worth sharing. --David Iberri (talk) 05:24, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  In my opinion, an imperfect, schematic diagram is still useful in orienting a reader to a subject, and helping the reader know where to direct their eye on more detailed diagrams. For example, I feel that this is more immediately comprehensible to a lay audience than this. But I acknowledge that this is a complex design issue involving many tradeoffs, which is why I wanted to move this thread to a more public location. To establish common ground: I think we all agree that the Gray's anatomy images are more precise than the "seer.cancer.gov" images, while the captions on the seer.cancer.gov remain legible at smaller sizes than those on the Gray's. If you really think that the Pharynx article is made more useful by removing the seer image, I won't stand in your way, but before doing so, you might want to run it by a couple of non-medical friends and see what they think. --Arcadian 06:24, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Arcadian is right, and I admit to being on an anatomically-correct-at-all-costs path recently. I don't think the pharynx image should be removed, as you said it's much clearer and simplier than the gold standard Grey's plates. What really worries me is that I've been finding chronic inaccuracies in the seer images, and I haven't even been going through them systematically. Some, like the pharynx image, are utterly trivial and arguably aren't even erroneous. On the other hand, while the brachioradialis image is clear, it's clearly the wrong muscle. This makes me question the labeling for all the other seer images... is there a way to list them so we can go through and examine each one for other labeling issues? It'd be nice to pick them out and fix labels wherever possible so they can be included. Perhaps some of the autowiki tools are appropriate, but I have no idea how to use any of them. Robotsintrouble 20:07, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know of no existing list of seer images, but this provides a log of the images I have uploaded to commons. --Arcadian 23:53, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention.  Badbilltucker 18:11, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: The title says it all.  Sorry this message is a bit late.  Dar-Ape 18:07, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Anatomy]] is the current [[Wikipedia:Article Creation and Improvement Drive|Article Creation and Improvement Drive]] article 

message: I have created a banner for the project at . I intend to add it to all the articles relating to anatomy that appear on the Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/VA tagging page that I think relate to anatomy. The first such article is Leonardo da Vinci, as for whatever reason all the biography articles come first on that page. You are of course free to do whatever you want with the banner. Sorry for any trouble I may have unintentially created. John Carter 20:34, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for creating it. --Arcadian 21:46, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Would be nice if someone could add assessment functionality to the template. I might take a look at it myself some day, though I'm not really involved in this project so it might be a while. Richard001 07:01, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project banner 

message: Hey, I am asking you on behalf of WikiProject Dentistry about an article that relates to both of us.  There has been much editing of tooth, and I realized that most of the information is about human teeth.  Should there be a separate "animal teeth" article that the section should show as the main article or should the majority of the content in the tooth article be moved to a "human tooth" (or would this be an exception to have plural: "human teeth") article? What are your thoughts on the matter?  My initial instinct was to keep the article as is and make a new article about animal teeth for the section to refer to, but I did not know if most anatomy articles try to keep a certain format when addressing that issue. Your input would be appreciated. - Dozenist talk 03:43, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tooth 

message: The stub type  has become very large;  I've made a proposal to create a  sub-type.  If you have any thoughts on that, or ideas for further sub-types, please share them at WP:WSS/P.  Alai 17:07, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neuroanatomy stubs 

message: Can we find some photographs of cadavers? like a photo atlas would have? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.205.92.132 (talk) 07:21, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  photographs of cadavers 

message: Hello all. I would like a some advice on the article glans. When it first came to my attention, it was listed by the sexuality task project as being a stub of "high" importance. Over the last month, I have spent considerable time expanding the article into a comparative biologically-oriented (rather than completely anthropocentric) article, with references. Although I have sought input on the changes, few were forthcoming. Recently, an individual who apparently vehemently disagrees with my input reverted the article back to the original stub. Thus, I have sought advice from other specific editors, and am seeking advice here. Perhaps the members of this group could provide input on the changes made and recent revert, as well as the exchanges on talk:glans. It would be most appreciated. As the article is also relevant to the Sexuality and Biology projects, I am posting this request to those projects as well. Thanks, and look forward to hearing from you. Esseh 14:17, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update and request for advice. 

message: Hello.  Low priority task though this is, I've created a userbox:  , and a category to go with it: :Category:WikiProject Anatomy members.  To add yourself to this category, either add
Category:WikiProject Anatomy members
to the bottom of your userpage, or add
to your userboxes.  The userbox looks like this:
--HughCharlesParker (talk - contribs) 21:16, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent work! Cant have a full fledged wikiproject (as quiet as this one is regardless) without a userbox :P. Seriously good job. Keep up the great work.Calaka 02:25, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Userbox 

message: Would someone (who has time) be able to do a bit of assessing of the anatomy articles. Currently there are thousdands which dont even have the anatomy tag... I attempted to get a lot down and got all the bones, ligaments and muscles. To see a nice good list of all the anatomy articles go to Human anatomy and go to the bottom of the page for an extensive list.... Whats remaining are the arteries,veins, nerves (sooo many), lymphatic vessels, and overall anatomy stuctures that need to be assessed... The quality rating shouldnt be a problem for most people (just judge the article whether it looks like a stub,start, B etc...) and as for the priority i tried to make and give equal weight to most of the things i assessed. For example... I gave all the bones of the body a high rating (since they are prety important eg tibia), but all of their individual bumps and grooves i gave all equaly a low mark (such as the gluteal tuberosity of the tibia)... The ligaments i was probably a bit variable, but i figured that most if not all are a low to mid rating... Muscles (since there is roughly 600 or so in body) i gave them all a Mid rating (example semitendinosus muscle), while particular areas (such as the anterior compartment of thigh region) was given a high rating as a particular group is more important than individual as same area have same actions,innervation,blood supply generally etc... Im guessing a similar higherarchy can be applied to the arteries,veins,lymph and nerves (Bigger ones can be a high rating, smaller mid, less unherard of ones can be a low rating of their respective type)....What else.... all organs should be a high rating (heart, lungs, pancreas etc).... and anything else that got left out.... if you feel worried and dont know what to rate the articles in terms of priority just rate them by quality and someone else can judge them later...
Also another thing, if possible add the med tag in as well... as anatomy is derived from med.... and generally the med tag will follow the same quality scale except the priority is usually lower.... like the femur bone in anatomy is a high, while in medicine its more of a mid importance....This is all my opinion though and I would encourage to hear other peoples opinions on whether they agree on the above or would like to say it in a diferent way...
This is the code to add both the anatomy and medicine articles on their talk pages:(note that you add the quality/importance in urself) further note (im using a banner as it is prefered for the tags to not clog up the talk page from possible useful discussions about the article)
*
Finally one last thing...I also happend to notice some anatomy articles tagged with the preclenical medicine tag...If you wish to add that tag in as well then by all means...this is how it will look like (note that there is no class or importance functionality given by that projects tag)
*
However note that this project has been inactive for some quite time so that is why i did not begin to add the tag in (also because i have already tagged quite a large substantial number of articles and there was no way i was going back through all of them adding an extra tag again!). I would have remained quiet and wouldnt have minded getting around to all of the anatomy articles eventually myself but im becoming more busy outside of wikipedia, so i wont be able to do such things as often...So fellow anatomists, hopefully some of you will find the time to do some TAGGING (it might seem like a small unimpartant task, but it will end up being for the greater good in the categorizing/organizing wikipedia articles!
Further note:
If you want to add any additional tags (such as the opthalmic tag for the eye related anatomy pages, or dentistry tag for dentistry related anatomy pages (eg mouth muscles) or the neuroscience tag for all of the nerves, or even the vetenary tag for the animal anatomy pages that you happen to find(eg wish bone of chicken) then follow these steps:
-For nerves and such, spinal nerves,etc etc(also note that the neuroscience tag doesnt have class/importance functionality, but feel free to add em anyway for in the future they might get added on
*
-For dentistry type articles
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-For eye type articles (again like neuroscience tag, this tag doesnt have class/importance functionality...
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-For animal anatomy (note that its debated whether the vet tag is suitable with the med tag, but its up to you if you want to put both on the same article)
*
Thank you for ur attention!Calaka 15:42, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anatomy project tagging and assessing 

message: Could someone please take a look at this article?  It's a "problem" article - probably a good concept, but written by a Wikipedia newbie, and it may contain some original research.  It's written more like an essay than a tight encyclopedia article.  Thanks to all you folks who understand neurology better than I ever will.  Shalom Hello 00:09, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I completely agree.  It reads like a review article, though I can't find anything similar to it on pubmed.  Judging by the link at the bottom of the page and the initials of the creator, the article probably originated from Georgia Tech - somebody associated with the Bellamkonda  group most likely.  The article definitely needs major revision....Able editor 03:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Nerve guidance conduit]] 

message: How long is an ulna? It may seem like a strange question, but what do you do when you need to know? You can try to measure your own ulna, but what if your arms are unusually long, or short, or you want the length of an ulna for the opposite sex? It seems that you are out of luck, because Wikipedia does not include such facts. I've been looking around and I can't find this information anywhere. We have tons of articles on bones, and I haven't look at them all, but none of the bone articles that I have seen ever mention anything about the size of the bone in question. Isn't that a basic fact that should be mentioned in every anatomy article? Every article should state the size of whatever bit of anatomy is being discussed on average for men and for women. Shouldn't they? -- Lilwik (talk) 08:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where are the measurements? 

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thanks, pfctdayelise (talk) 13:12, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[m:GIP|Greenspun illustration project]]: requests now open 

message: I am not a medical person and I added info on a golfer's injury to his page. I am not sure if I wikilinked everything correctly. Can someone check it out?
Trevor Immelman#Biography
This is the paragraph....
Thanks michfan2123 (talk) 15:49, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need help with something, figure you guys can help. 

message: Editors working on Herpes zoster have noticed that Ganglion is unclear to lay readers.  Could someone here please help out?  An illustration would help. --Una Smith (talk) 18:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added some refs. --Arcadian (talk) 21:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ganglion 

message: Any thoughts on ducts of Luschka?  What does Terminologia Anatomica say?
There seems to be some disagreement about whether Luschka's duct is supravesical (superior surface of gallbladder) or subvesical (inferior surface of gallbladder).
Based on what I've read the duct of Luschka is:
# A bile duct.
# Arises from the liver.
# Does not directly communicate with the gallbladder lumen.
# Subvesical or supravesical.  (I favour supravesical).
See: Talk:ducts of Luschka.
Any experts on this out there?
I'm thinking about simply renaming to accessory bile duct. Nephron  T|C 06:45, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accessory bile duct, ducts of Luschka 

message: trigone of bladder needs the cool innervation, blood supply color template thing.
i believe the innervation of the trigone is sympathetic, unlike the detrusor which is para. (but I need verification of this).  I also do not know how to do the template thing.  Also, something could be written about the embryogenesis of the trigone - sorta interesting. Trigone_of_urinary_bladder  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.174.42.22 (talk) 09:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  trigone of bladder [[Trigone_of_urinary_bladder]] 

message: Hey there. If anyone with a sound Anatomy background is not busy, I invite them to look at the list: Wikipedia:Requested articles/list of missing anatomy as it appears that there are a lot of articles  created. I do not have an absolute knowledge in Anatomy so I am hesitant to prune the list myself. If anyone is able to verify each blue link that it is the correct article/redirect then feel free to remove it from that list. Cheers!Calaka (talk) 03:44, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pruning of Missing Anatomy pages 

message: Tapetum lucidum currently implies the choroid is inside of the retina but this seems to be untrue.  Some eyes on this article would be appreciated!  Also, can anyone locate a diagram of an eye that includes the tapetum lucidum? --Una Smith (talk) 22:22, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Animal eye anatomy: tapetum lucidum 

message: the muscle info box has blood supply and innervation, but another clinically relevant point would be the spinal root level.  I proposed that this should also be added to the infobox for each muscle.  It could then integrate things like dermatones and myotomes to muscles and innervation by specific nerves.  It will also help medical students studying for the USMLE.  they could quickly see if a specific muscle falls under which nerve root.  It would also be nice to have which clinical exam maneuver is preformed to test each muscle group / nerve / spinal nerve. Please see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Suggstion_for_the_Tables_that_go_under_the_picture_of_the_muscle_-_showing_innervation.2C_blood_supply.2C_etc  for more info.
:anyone agree?????
: I like this idea. How do we do it? Tkjazzer (talk) 17:14, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  adding Spinal nerve root levels to muscle info box 

message: Could someone with an anatomy textbook handy please verify that the labels in  are correct and, if so, slap a citation onto the image description page?  We have a user requesting its removal from Wikipedia, claiming that, since there are no citations, it constitutes original research.  Without going into the issue of the extent to which that policy should be applied to image, a simple citation for this basic anatomical information would neatly dispose of this particular complaint.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 01:07, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference for respiratory system image 

message: Just about every anatomy article could be checked over by the surgeons in WPMED, so could you please tag WPMED when you are tagging your anatomy articles. Thank you.
::Please, if you decide to do this, use , to save me an enormous amount of bother later.  Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:21, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  if you guys are going around tagging articles, could you also tag them with <nowiki>{{WPMED}}</nowiki>? 

message: There are a ton of free anthropometry images at Human Engineering Design Data Digest. I uploaded two so far: :Image:HeadAnthropometry.JPG and :Image:HandAnthropometry.JPG. If you have some time, please upload more of these anthropometry images and add them to the appropriate anatomy article. Thanks. JohnABerring27A (talk) 18:17, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free Anthropometry Images 

message: See Wikipedia talk:MED#Human anatomy.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:31, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Human anatomy]] 

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thread_title:  Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme 

message: Apparent as it may be, lymphatic system is quite related to anatomy. So, if someone with sound knowledge or interest in the article may kindly review the article, and also the related articles—lymph node, lymph capillary, lymph, etc.
Thanks in advance.
—KetanPanchaltaLK 06:05, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Medicine/Collaboration of the Week]] 

message: I'd gone through the article on pancreas, and found it not up to the mark of most of the medicine-related articles and overall standard of Wikipedia, and then had proposed it as a Medical Collaboration of the Week, which required me to go through the articles on other major organs, and this is what I found:
* Stomach: In state comparable/slightly better than pancreas. Mainly, the physiology of digestion in stomach is lacking, which is somewhat discussed in the article in digestion. I think an average user is very likely to search this article. So, it also deserves a better article.
* Spleen: Also needs improvement, particularly, how it functions. But, may be a less "notable" organ than pancreas.
* Bone marrow: Quite better than the pancreas article, may be a bit more of anatomy could have been discussed.
* Thyroid: An article, I'd consider of comparable importance and notability as pancreas. This is an excellent article, comprehensive, and may be used as a model for other organ-related articles in anatomy. May be the histology section could do with being descriptive rather than tabular.
* Guidelines for anatomy articles: Well, the page says, it's in a state of development, but no mention has been made of what all section-headings are required in an organ-related article.
So, there are two possibilities. One, that the pancreas articles is actually quite alright given the state of articles on (comparably) important and notable organs, and it's just that my expectations of them are pretty high. Two, that all/most of the organ-related articles are in a bad state, which would mean that somehow all the organ-related articles need  improvement. But, I believe second possibility to be "more true". Cases in point would be:
* Transcription
* Penicillin
* Heart murmur, which are all much better (informative, organized and comprehensive) articles in their own right, and more so when one considers the other articles they provide links to. Also, it is such articles that had molded my ideas on "overall standard of Wikipidea articles".
So, may be we (medicine and anatomy Wikiprojects) have to decide what quality of articles and degree of details do we wish for the major organs of the body.
I also suggest that it'd be nice to have an "Anatomy Collaboration of the Week/fortnight" just like the Medical Collaboration of the Week. At least I can be definitely counted as a participant.
—KetanPanchaltaLK 08:02, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  State of articles on major organs 

message: I have nominated several templates that are used in a number of anatomy articles for deletion.  The relevent discussion is at Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2008_July_25#Template:ViennaCrossSection et. seq. --Selket Talk 17:24, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Several histology external link templates nominated for deletion 

message: Are Adventitia and Tunica adventitia the same thing?  Is the redirect pointing at the right article?  WhatamIdoing (talk) 23:53, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  SEP 

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thread_title:  Articles flagged for cleanup 

message: Any comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Leonardo da Vinci/archive3 would be most appreciated.  It's a vital article, so it would be nice to get as many views as possible.  Thanks. Papa November (talk) 08:22, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Leonardo da Vinci]] peer review 

message: My fellow editors and I have a dilemma. The breast article has a picture that some of us want changed (myself included) and several other editors want to keep it. We've reached a deadlock and more input would be appreciated. Thank you. Asarelah (talk) 00:22, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breast article picture 

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thread_title:  Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Anatomy 

message: http://www.flickr.com/photos/minghong/2879832934/
I found it at a rocky beach facing Ho Ha Wan, near Lan Lo Au, Sai Kung, Hong Kong.
--minghong (talk) 02:36, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What kind of animal did this skull belong to? 

message: The hymen article is currently experiencing an edit war.  An RFC (science, mathematics or technology) was placed a few day ago, specifically relating to the appropriateness of a Gray's Anatomy illustration.  Some moderating voices have appeared, but the disagreements go well beyond the issues of illustration, and both the discussion and the entire article itself would greatly benefit from voices familiar with the anatomical literature.  -- Kirk Hilliard (talk) 00:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for Assistance on [[Hymen]] 

message: WikiProject Medicine, WikiProject Anatomy, and WikiProject Biology have all rated this article as Start-Class on the quality scale.  I wonder if it might not have earned a higher rating now?  - Hordaland (talk) 13:46, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Pineal gland]] 

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thread_title:  Coordinators' working group 

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thread_title:  GA Sweeps invitation 

message: I have made a suggestion here Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine/Task_forces#Anatomy in re: this project forming as a task force under WP:MED. All support, opposition or general comments that you might have in regards to this suggestion is more than welcome in the task force proposal page (link above). Thank you.Calaka (talk) 11:45, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If this project's scope were spelled out a little more clearly, it might help the discussion.  Currently, it says "This particular project may expand in scope to become the Anatomy WikiProject," a statement that has not changed materially since the project's creation on 19 March 2005.  Specifically, is this a "human anatomy" project, or does it include other animals?  WhatamIdoing (talk) 17:45, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know, but looking at this talk page it doesn't seem their very active. Renaissancee (talk) 00:14, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merger of WP:Anatomy with WP:MED as a task force