Talk:Lizard Man of Scape Ore Swamp

message: How about adding some sources for this legend? Quale 00:54, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
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message: I think the time has come to say no never delete this story. 2nd, the main area of concern no one seems to mention is that the witnesses and police who located tracks of the creature did not mention the likelihood of the tracks being faked.It is difficult to fake tracks in a wet terrain of mud or loose tall grass...the hoaxers would show they were disturbing the area around the tracks of their own weight and bootprints...hard to conceal wouldnt you think ? The event was important to ufo research since any odd creature appearance never before noticed, if large,bi-pedal and violent, is likely from somewhere else...The key to this mystery : no news media or police ever disputed or challenged the original tracks that were found as being easily seen as a hoaxed event.
- BlondeIgnore Blondeignore (talk) 15:58, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
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message: And a constant embarrassment to most of us S. Carolinians.  The article is very poorly "sourced" and  should be shortened extremely, considering the dearth of sources and the total irrelevance of this myth. HammerFilmFan (talk) 05:19, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  one of the more silly myths in this wiki 

message: Does anyone know to what this passage in the lede is referring? Is it perhaps the non-US usage that designates any form of underpass? I'm fairly certain there have never been any underground rail systems in the vicinity of the Scape Ore Swamp.   Cjmclark (Contact) 22:25, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "abandoned subways"? 

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message: Hi all. This is my first time doing a significant edit. I added a new section because Blackburn's book on this subject was an important contribution. Please advise if I did it correctly. Idoubtit00 (talk) 01:21, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: You added a section about a non- notable book by an author espousing fringe views. Please review WP:FRIND and WP:RS, thanks. - LuckyLouie (talk) 12:18, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the references. I included this book because it references factual items (police reports, newspaper articles and original investigation by the author) and has a generally solid, journalistic approach without invoking fringe theories (except the idea that witnesses were conflating a lizard man with a bigfoot-type creature). I tried to frame this neutrally. Idoubtit00 (talk) 16:36, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Bigfoot’s existence is not a fact. - LuckyLouie (talk) 20:26, 25 August 2019 (UTC)

text: It's not stated as a fact; Bigfoot is obviously a culturally relevant idea. I see no line-crossing here. Idoubtit00 (talk) 22:05, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The author is a cryptozoologist, a pursuit that is a pseudoscience. WP:FRINGE issues aside, we would need third party independent WP:SECONDARY sources to take notice of the book in order to justify the author and the book having such prominent mention in the article. As it is, it’s WP:UNDUE and runs afoul of WP:NOTPROMOTION. - LuckyLouie (talk) 01:39, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  "The author is a cryptozoologist, a pursuit that is a pseudoscience" Both of those statements are arguable in many different ways. If you want to go that route, you'd have a lot more "running afoul" to cite on many other pages. Blackburn's book, as I note, is a journalistically-framed account using first-hand documents. It is a suitable source to reference this cultural/folklore topic; and in no way am I condoning any opinions about the myth with the reference. Idoubtit00 (talk) 00:20, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

text: No, I didn't delete your edits. You can look in the article's "history" tab to see a record of past and current changes. BTW, if your sole aim is to insert things about "Lyle Blackburn, Cryptid Hunter" into the encyclopedia, you are going to have a difficult time here. I urge you to read the editorial guidelines and policies I referred you to above, and familiarize yourself with how the encyclopedia works and what its goals are. - LuckyLouie (talk) 01:39, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is, , that Wikipedia isn't really set-up to provide accurate information in cases where secondary sources do not describe things carefully and reliably. We are only as good as the sources which are out there. The Smithsonian magazine piece is a good find, but we should use it to describe the extant phenomenon (the pilgrimages) rather than as as advert for Lyle Blackburn's book. jps (talk) 14:28, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually think Blackburn's book might have some decent content for which it might be considered reliable (his research rather than his speculations), but it should probably be as a source rather than as a feature. --tronvillain (talk) 15:05, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not sure we should be engaged in picking out the "research" from the WP:SENSATIONal  narrative. We have much better sources that are not so deeply pushing hype. - LuckyLouie (talk) 15:52, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: True. There's a good Ben Radford article which does the job of extracting the relevant info for us. --tronvillain (talk) 16:17, 27 August 2019 (UTC)

text: IDK maybe because the editor who added it isn't using it to make a claim of some kind, it just says that the book contains a chapter on the legend. I'm fine removing it. Sgerbic (talk) 01:40, 28 August 2019 (UTC)

text: Well done Idoubtit00. Sgerbic (talk) 23:18, 28 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: And I see "Lyle Blackburn, Cryptid Hunter" got in as a reference, so he must be happy. - LuckyLouie (talk) 11:22, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
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message: The Lizard Man was talked about by people in Bishopville in 1986. 170.103.116.191 (talk) 06:37, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  1986