Talk:Dairy

message: Undergoing large copy edit CaseInPoint July 5, 2005 01:43 (UTC)
I've now created the dairy farming article as a stub.  Topics related to the production of fluid milk should go there.  Topics related to the processing of milk should remain here.  18.24.0.120 03:39, 1 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I would say that there is an inordinately large and potentially inaccurate section relating to the disposal of milk. 
1) In all my life, I have never heard of waste that required digging a hole to get rid off. Although, potentially it has happened in other areas. My point is that it is not common.
 
:I have added some points to this area, with references. Annak123 (talk) 03:00, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  No use crying over spilt milk  

message: is there an article somewhere in wikipedia on the sizeable antidairy movement? it seems like that should be mentioned here as well, and linked to.
I have tried to link and put mention of diseases related to consuming milk, for which there is substantial evidence to ie diabetes, heart disease (high cholesterol / Saturated fat), etc however it has been deleted.  perhaps the dairy industry has insiders working to not 'spoil' the great milk image!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.166.105 (talk) 14:19, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The diseases of which you speak are generally associated with modern diets, and over consumption, and not specifically a risk of dairy consumption.80.43.20.144 (talk) 18:54, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  anti-milk movement! 

message: Removed diabetes after a check of Medline, this is a hypothesis with more data against it than for it.  Other disease claims should be supported by verifable citations, otherwise NPOV violation. Thatcher131 21:08, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: diseases of the milk industry

message: Cowpox would not protect against chicken pox as one is an orthopox virus and the other is an alphaherpesvirus. The correct virus for which protection is conferred is smallpox, as mentioned in the abstract of this draft from the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/ncidod/eid/vol9no11/02-0814.htm)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.57.121.12 (talk) 22:03, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diseases Error 

message: This article needs to be split off into several different articles specializing in different aspects of dairy technology. The milking machine in particular can be a complete article in itself. I do not see why it is lumped into this huge article.
The waste handling is another section that could practically become its own article. It is quite shocking to discover that there is no article for barn cleaner on Wikipedia, and they've been in use for a good 50 years or so.
I will probably be splitting these article sections in the future. DMahalko (talk) 15:13, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the article needs splitting, as it is confusing farm-based and processing aspects of the wider dairy industry.  As an example, the title of the article is dairy but it really refers to dairy farming. I suggest this article should focus on the farm-based aspects of dairy farming, and a new article consider the processing aspects of milk in various products. Happy to help splitting the article. Annak123 (talk) 03:08, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

text: No, human milk is not considered dairy. The general reason why is because dairy has historically related to milk that is used, mainly, for making milk-based products (aka dairy products). As breast milk is not intended for processing (even though it could be), it is not considered to be termed dairy. Annak123 (talk) 03:08, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is way too long 

message: I added the Invented in Belgium category to the milking machine paragraph(  Ferdinand Henard http://www.google.com/patents?id=07pSAAAAEBAJ  ) But dairy in general ended up on the inventions page. Is there a way to just add the milking machine? Or would that force the creation of a milking machine page entry? Thnx in advance for any reply.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.101.79.66 (talk) 14:04, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invention tag 

message: I find it very strange that this article (and a few others) contains weird claims by vegan scientists about animal fat and protein, while it contains literally nothing about the beneficial effects of dairy, the main ones being improved bone health (which is rigorously supported by controlled trials in humans, see review here: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10759135 ).
The claims under "concerns" include anecdote by several vegan physicians, with references to books written by these same physicians, as well as a book written by a layperson, as well as a selection of peer-reviewed studies that are small. Overall, the references definitely do not support the claims about animal fat, animal protein, or low-fat vegan diets. See discussion about this on this page here: ( http://authoritynutrition.com/wikipedia-tainted-with-vegan-propaganda/ ).
I'm new here, but I really dislike seeing this kind of stuff on a respectable site like Wikipedia that is supposed to be objective. This paragraph under "concerns" seems to be written with the intention of scaring people away from dairy products to promote the vegan message. This certainly doesn't belong here. Is there anyone here who would like to remove this, or should I do it myself? Krassssi (talk) 11:52, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inappropriate vegan messages in the article 

message: The section "Operation of the dairy farm" is unsourced, inconsistent, and describes what seems like a suspiciously idyllic life for these dairy cows. I've quoted the largest inconsistency:
I'd like to first disclaim that I know absolutely nothing about cow biology. But how can a cow's udder be so full that it hurts her if she isn't milked, and yet, she can stop giving milk after a single day? That sounds off. Does anybody have a source for this claim?
:Thanks for tagging with cites, which are needed. The editor meant (or should have meant) the more frequently a cow is milked, the more milk she produces.
:Failing to milk a cow has dire effects which I don't know exactly either. At first milk will spurt out of her udder which hurts. Then she will, over time (I don't know how long), will drop production. So a cow unmilked for a week or two, if she survives! will nearly cease production. I'm sure the editor is correct when he says even skipping one milking will affect production. I doubt that this production can be revived during this cycle of bearing a calf.
:As for the "idyllic" part, they used to advertise "milk from contented cows." Actually, that environment is ideal for dairy production. So I guess the idea is to "spoil" them. :) Student7 (talk) 21:02, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistencies in "Operation of the dairy farm" 

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message: Most of this article is about several different aspects of the Dairy Industry overall, not just about the buildings, farms, factories etc known as a dairy. Just using the word "Dairy" as the title does not reflect what most of the article is about.
95.145.86.73 (talk) 15:11, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title should be Dairy Industry 

message: This article seems to mix together dairy as in milk products and dairy as in a factory that processes them. It should be structured better. --91.114.189.165 (talk) 00:20, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terminology