Talk:Xenon 2: Megablast

message: Good game! Thanks for writing it up --Mmartins 11:21, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Thanks

message: I think that the sourceless paragraph about dance music and Amiga must be inaccurate. OCS Amigas do not support CD-quality sound thus professionals would have never used it to make the actual piece of music. But they used Amiga (and ST) as a midi controlling device (for composing, while sound came from other sources). Of course for casual listener Xenon II may prove that Amiga can produce music that sounds virtually same as what you hear on radio but that's a different thing. --88.195.104.180 (talk) 17:22, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it. It's mostly wrong. Xenon 2 was not the first product to include release-quality music. Many demos did that already. Xenon 2 was one of those products that demonstrated the ability of the Amiga to produce decent music. - Richard Cavell (talk) 10:07, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Dance music and Amiga

message: When I ran this, Xenon 2000 would not take any keyboard controls nor did the mouse work. However, I found out how to get the keyboard to work. If you have ZoneAlarm, it will say this program is trying to monitor the keyboard, don't press Allow too quickly, give it a good few seconds before allowing Allow. 
I have not yet tried it with a Joystick - connected to Game Port or Joystick - connected to USB. 
Sorry, to put this here, but I hunted around on Google for ages and I could not find a solution, so decide to put the tip here!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.169.69 (talk) 02:06, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xenon 2000 PFC - If Keyboard does not work 

message: when i finish the dos version of Xenon 2 it's not disappointing as said in the article - in fact after the shop dude tells me that i finished the game, the screen goes black with a white dot in the midddle and when i push fire it starts from the beginning with most enemies having double health (hit them 2x instead of 1x) and i think that's a pretty cool addition! you can spend even more time with playing. hehe so maybe that should be mentioned?! i'll add it, if someone does not like it, correct it! greetings -- 195.14.207.39 (talk) 05:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outro lame?? 

message: Some seriously shit-tier POV pushing going on in this article. --86.152.199.158 (talk) 23:41, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What is this dispute about? 2fort5r (talk) 03:36, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

text: Err.. I've removed the POV template as the initiator did not name any specific concern. --hydrox (talk) 17:39, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sigh 

message: Why is there a monkfish on the picture? Is this one of the bosses? 2fort5r (talk) 03:08, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Box Art

message: I understand that User:Cat's_Tuxedo would like to get reliable sources for the Japanese X86K and PC-98 release by Epic/Sony Records since recording company was involved in game publishing before the establishment of SCEI. 
I did not include the Game Boy release since it is published by a different company which is PCM Complete and the sources are quite few. 
The only sources that I can get apart from gameplay videos, ROMs, and pictures from auctions are posts which are complete in box and posts in Japanese websites. 
One thing is that I don't get why a Japanese release of a Western game is considered irrelevant to the topic? The game was also released on systems that are unique in Japan which unusual and it should not be considered irrelevant.
I thought that when posting on Wiki, we can provide more details to an article.  136.158.11.209 (talk) 03:57, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WP:VG/RELEASE, release information for non-English versions is only relevant if the game was originally released in a non-English country, such as any JRPG. Otherwise, such information should be excluded. Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 04:29, 14 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You've also repeatedly reverted edits mentioning the DOS version of the game, despite the existing references noting its existence. In particular, the archive of the Bitmap Brothers website mentions the PC release, and provides a patch download to fix some missing graphics in that version of the game. James (talk) 04:37, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese Releases (X68K, PC98, GB) 

message: The DOS version is the only one I've ever played. The Bitmap Brothers website, besides mentioning a PC version was released, also includes a patched .exe for DOS: https://web.archive.org/web/20191126081727/http://www.bitmap-brothers.co.uk/downloads/patches/xenon2/index.htm I checked it out in DOSBox and confirmed it is for DOS, not for PC-98. Also, the page for the original Xenon, https://web.archive.org/web/20191126081725/http://www.bitmap-brothers.co.uk/our-games/past/xenon.htm, mentions a PC release, and Xenon 1 was never released for PC-98, while it was released for PC, so it seems highly unlikely that "PC" would be referring to a PC release in one instance and a PC-98 release on two sister pages of the same site.
If Mobygames isn't an acceptable source despite it containing numerous screenshots from the DOS version, as well as scans of the box cover from 3 different regions, photos of the floppy disks, scans of the manual front and back and a reference card, then what sort of source should I be looking for instead? An advertisement or review from a scanned magazine? I can link some reviews in Archive.org scanned magazines, but they're not in English. And it seems like Archive.org would be an even less reliable source since it's unmoderated. As opposed to Mobygames, where every piece of data added goes through review by moderators before being allowed to go live on the site.
Personally I think the source we should be evaluating is not on what website something is hosted, but the source of the material. Physical packaging is a strong source. Contents of a physical package such as manuals are a strong source. Photos of professionally labelled floppy disks are a strong source. Screenshots that fit the specific characteristic graphics modes of a system, taken together with accompanying physical evidence of a release, are a strong source.
There are of course many gameplays of Xenon 2 for DOS on Youtube, which I imagine cannot be included as sources. Not to mention there are ripped images of the floppies and a later CD compilation on Archive.org that also testify to the release of the DOS version, but would be inadvisable to link to due to copyright infringement.
There has to be something among all these many pieces which would allow updating an incomplete Wiki entry to be more complete. 2601:152:4C7E:B8A1:481F:7524:AC42:DF86 (talk) 22:23, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:VG/S has a list of reliable sources you may refer to when searching for information on this subject. Scanned magazines posted on Archive.org are indeed reliable sources and have been used in several high-quality articles, whereas MobyGames, as you can see in the listing, is regarded as unreliable. Cat's Tuxedo (talk) 00:28, 20 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Acceptable sources for DOS version?