Talk:Kitty Pryde

message: I removed the following from the article because I really don't think RPG stats belong in Wikipedia. Since large numbers of these "vital stats" sections have been added to various articles, I'm using Talk:Strength level (comics) to discuss this issue in general. Bryan 08:24, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Guys, we don't have a picture of the lass! Or something's kooky with my computer, and I don't! Send one up! 62.194.121.100 12:43, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, it's been fixed, thank you! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 194.171.56.13 (talk) 11:50, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: RPG stats

message: Since my changes are a bit more extensive than what would completely fit in the Edit Summary field, I've explained them here:  
First, I do not believe that the word "phasing" is one of Kitty's invention.  Although I do not specifically recall when it was first used, I do not think it was merely what "she called" it.  If I'm not mistaken,  this assertion comes from the X-Men animated short film that featured Magneto, the White Queen and the Brotherhood, and which depicted Kitty joining the X-Men, in a continuity entirely separate from both the comics and the animated TV series that debuted years later.
Second, the notion of her Ariel and Sprite costumes being "ridiculously colored" is not NPOV, nor is the idea that she was the team's "mascot character", since she proved herself to be a competent member of the team to be reckoned with.  I changed that to "brightly colored".
Third, the idea that Kitty lead a "carefree existence" after joining the X-Men is unsupported by any reading of those issues, in which her life was seriously threatened on a number of occassions.  Looking through the issue where that monster attacked her when she was all alone in mansion by herself, or the issue where she was ruminating on the Brood egg inside her that would kill her hardly seemed "carefree."  I changed that to "life of adventure".
Lastly, the notion that her crush on Collossus began when Professor X tried to place her in the New Mutants is flat-out untrue, as it clearly began when she first laid eyes on him in her first appearance, in X-Men #129, and was touched upon during that first storyline with the Hellfire Club.  I moved the mention of the crush to fix that chronology.  Nightscream 10.11.05. 10:45am EST.
:Just one point - I can't find it right now, but I remember seeing an interview with Dave Cockrum where he actively described the costumes he designed for Kitty as ridiculous, or a synonym thereof, and said that was one of the few ways he could find the character interesting (that she was a teenage girl, and thus could get away with it).
:And, c'mon - this is ridiculous :) - SoM 09:34, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Corrections  (10.10.05.) 

message: I don't ever remember Kitty having a problem passing through adamantium or vice versa.  Surely with the number of times she's trained with Wolverine this would have come up.  Unless someone can find a direct reference I'm going to take that bit out.
: I can't find it immediately, but I will find it and it does exist - it was referenced in the Wolverine storyline where Sabretooth acquired adamantium bones. Kitty had a bad time when she tried to phase through them... --Mrph 00:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Got it. Wolverine #126, written by Chris Claremont. --Mrph 00:20, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Most of it reads like Original Research so I'm fine with it going away. I moved it down earlier just because I didn't have time to do a proper edit. Still don't.  :-) CovenantD 22:37, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You know what, I'm also going to get rid of the "Added Note" because it's very poorly written and doesn't even belong on the Shadowcat page.  If anything it should probably be on the movie page but I really just don't have the heart to put it on there myself. Gnosis1185 22:53, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Adamantium and Extra Notes on Powers

message: Per the Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#Proliferation of Ultimate character articlesWP:COMIC talk page, Ultimate character entries should be merged into the character's main article.--Chris Griswold 05:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The only primary dif I can see between US and S is the Peter Parker relationship. -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 14:52, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: *Merge--Chris Griswold 05:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Once again the Ultimate characters are their own person. Their becoming a bigger hit than any of the other Ult Universes. Let them be.Mr Wednesday 21:12, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The only primary dif I can see between US and S is the Peter Parker relationship. -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 14:52, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussions

message: This article needs copy editing. --Chris Griswold 01:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've given the intro and char bio a pass, will try to get to the other sections soon -Markeer 22:25, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Okay, done passes at all sections.  I'd suggest another editor take a glance at it for overall readability, particularly (as per current tag) whether it would make sense to someone reading it having never heard of the character before. -Markeer 19:54, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've done some additional work. I think it's okay apart from the usual controversies about such articles (too much of an in-world perspective? legitimate use of primary sources?). Metamagician3000 04:56, 22 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Tried to cut down some sections that had some extraneous information in hopes that it now contains the pertinent information (in keeping with the trend that WP is not a plot summarizer).  Maybe someone can check it out to make sure I didn't edit something major out.  I also tried to edit everything to the present tense. --Silver lode 05:11, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone think we can remove the cleanup tag? --Silver lode 03:35, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is definitely in better form than it was some time ago, I'm removing the tag but let's keep this talk section active for awhile.  -Markeer 16:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: An unregistered user repeatedly has removed the picture of Kitty slipping Peter Parker the tongue, and the only real rationale given so far is that the user doesn't like it. One of the major differences in the Ultimate version of the character is that she knows what Spider-Man's tonsils taste like, and so this is a pretty representative image. Half of the Ultimate section is about their Ultimate lip-locks. Please, if you want to remove the picture, at least give a better rationale. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 23:31, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tongue Kissing Parker 

message: While web-slinging in Peter's arms in Ultimate Power #2, she seems to be chosing an codename. I don't read Ultimate X-Men, so I don't know if they refer to her in the missions, or even in the massion, as Shadowcat. Do they just call her Kitty? If so, we should add that, since something similar happened to the Ultimate F4 and such info is in their article. Kajito 20:12, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think we need to speculate on whether she is going to have a codename. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 21:14, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ultimate Shadowcat 

message: Somebody please help me. When was Kitty ever called "Ariel"? Did the name first appear in "New Mutants," because I'm collecting Uncanny X-Men (I don't have the Brood Saga) and I read about Kitty complaining about the name "Sprite" in #169, but between that and her leave of absence as of #183 (after which she returns as "Shadowcat,"), there's nada about "Ariel." All I know is she rejected the name when Professor X first proposed it when she joined the team, and after her return as Shadowcat, several Sentinels from the future (Nimrod and the Omegas) called her "Ariel". When was Kitty referred to as "Ariel"?
If I recall correctly, the first time that Kitty was in the danger room, in uniform for the first time, Professor X suggested the codename "Ariel," but Kitty immediately shot it down, and decided to go by the suggested codename of "Sprite" (so long as no one joked about pulling her tab...), so I really don't see how she could have "gone by" the name "Ariel" at all, really (unless it was in one of those weirdo alternate universe thingies). --68.217.193.72 14:39, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: a google search told me that Kitty's first appearance as Ariel was in X-Men 171 in 1983.  Hope this helps you vanis314 13:53, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ariel 

message: I don't know if it's just me, but for some reason, the image of Shadowcat in the SHB keep disappearing. -- DCincarnate 13:34, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's with the SHB image? 

message: Since this article already has a DoFP section and they are the same character only different realities, Widget (Marvel Comics) should be merged into this page. 69.182.78.104 07:44, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  After 2 month of no additional discussion and no consensus met, a move that discussion close.66.109.248.114 18:33, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with Widget

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Shadowcat.jpg

message: There's a cover image next to the Excalibut section, but for some reason the biography jumps straight from Excalibur to rejoining the X-Men and never mentions her working for S.H.I.E.L.D at all. Could someone who knows more about this add some details, please? Daibhid C 12:50, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Agent of S.H.I.E.L.D. 

message: This image has been used in this article to show Ellen Page as Kitty Pryde. Today a different image was uploaded and put in its place. Neither are free, and we can't claim fair-use for both, so which should we use? I say the original, as it's a much clearer, no-nonsense and encyclopedic image. faithless (speak) 23:43, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ellen Page images 

message: Anyone agree it's noteable Kitty is a personal friend of British ruling royalty? "X-Men: True Friends" three part limited series by Chris Claremont and Rick Leonardi. Lots42 (talk) 09:37, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure.  I haven't read the series you're mentioning, but wouldn't any X-Man who knows/teamed up with Psylocke/Meggan/Captain Britain be considered a "close friend" of British ruling royalty?  Colossus, Nightcrawler, Sage, Dazzler, Marvel Girl III, to name a few.  It doesn't seem to therefore be as notable.  Likewise, does every X-Man deserve a new section because they're friends with Storm, who's the queen of Wakanda?  Not so much.  So in my opinion, no, unless you can make a really convincing argument.Luminum (talk) 18:43, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pondering  

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replies: text: Done - as should be clear from the various tags on the article it needs a lot more references and more content in the PH. (Emperor (talk) 17:17, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Comics B-Class Assesment required

message: Seems that IP User:190.84.184.117 has been bored today.  Reverted 4 vandalism edits and left a note on the Talk page.  Please let me know if I should do anything else as I am a tad new.  Thanks.
Oscaron (talk) 16:49, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: Now, I'm not sure why this new section has been added, but why does it stop with their break up?  Shouldn't their Excalibur days be mention next?  Then especially Colossus and Kitty renewing their relationship in Astonishing X-Men be the end of the section?  Plus whatever happens in Uncanny X-Men 504 - 506 which is suppose to have a three issue subplot of Colossus' feelings on losing Kitty.  JackalsIII (talk)  —Preceding undated comment was added at 17:04, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. Their relationship is much more extensive than the point where it stopped in the article. Kitty grows up after all.--RossF18 (talk) 00:00, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Relationship with Colossus

message: Dead or not? I haven't picked up "Astonishing", after Whedon left, unfortunately. (JoeLoeb (talk) 22:12, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead? 

message: Recent comic A+X #8 (2013) says that Kitty assumed for years that she had to hold her breath while phasing (which apparently she doesn't need to do anymore while phasing).  She claims nowadays, she can phase through stuff while breathing and talking, and as a feat, can do micro-concussions using a phasing trick.  However, I'm not sure exactly when was she able to start doing this, in order to add references.  Sera404 (talk) 19:14, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I just read that issue.  Just reference it for this.  Dream Focus 15:24, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breathing while phasing 

message: It is too bad that some homophobic inmature editor eliminated the section about Kitty helping out with the Northstar wedding.  Das Baz, aka Erudil 15:28, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Helping with the Northstar wedding

message: When was she ever president of the United States?  Dream Focus 05:58, 16 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fictional Presidents of the United States category 

message: Lately I've seen here referred to as "Professor Pryde" in many of the comics but there's no mention of this in the article Jikybebna (talk) 13:32, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Professor Pryde 

message: Substituted at 21:18, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

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message: A Kitty Pryde movie is being developed. Could I add this sentence in?
 "It's unclear if Ellen Page will reprise her role."
--LegerPrime (talk) 01:17, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's a statement of a non-fact. Only add content that is factual and sourced. For example, if Ellen Page was in talks to reprise the role, that would be good to include, or if she or her representation made any mention of it.Luminum (talk) 07:58, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Solo Film 

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thread_title:  Ellen Page, not Elliot Page