Talk:List of Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C. 2nd GIG episodes

message: Seems like people failed to get the point before - this is by definition not a season but a series.  A new season continues from the previous one directly, whereas a series is self contained.  In this case nothing carries over from the first series but the characters and general setting/situation - there is a six month gap, a new government, new characters have appeared.  Therefore, in order to prevent perpetuating a falsehood any more than has already occurred, all references to "season" are now changed to "series".  As it therefore becomes incorrect to use 27-52 as episode numbers on practical terms, as well as that not being how they are referred to in the original work (albeit not the US-made credits, the US being the main source of the term season incorrectly used to mean series), I renumbered them 1-26.YourMessageHere (talk) 18:21, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe you ought to re-read those episode summaries. This clearly continues from the first season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.228.164.178 (talk) 22:20, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, YourMessageHere is correct here. These are two different series that share the same continuity and timeline. But both have entirely different and self contained storylines. But the most important indicator is that each series has different titles. And most importantly of all, the reliable sources treat the two as separate series instead of two seasons of the same series. This is actually comment with most anime series. Series that continues over multiple seasons, such as Bleach or One Piece, are the exception instead of the rule. --Farix (Talk) 01:39, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  2nd GIG ... the name say it all but i agree it is not a Season Neuromancien (talk) 11:02, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series vs. Season again 

message: It is obvious if you watch both ( same intro , same plan with the statue, ...) 
* French DVD5 Bonus : they explain how and why they travel to taiwan for ep 17 and Berlin ep 18 + interview
» Bonus  2 interviews croisées entre le réalisateur et les doubleurs / bande-annonce exclusive pour l'épisode TRANS PARENT / Anecdotes à propos des épisodes /
* The french distributor made a reference on his website  ( you could  watch the trailer and compare with movie' intro  btw ) 
L’équipe de production a décidé de se faire plaisir en déplaçant l’histoire dans deux pays différents, deux épisodes de suite (les deux premiers). Avec cet épisode, on commence avec Taiwan que les membres de Production I.G ont voulu dépeindre avec images et clichés sortis tout droit de films d’arts martiaux asiatiques. Tandis que le deuxième épisode se déroule à Berlin. C'est un hommage au film de Wim Wenders LES AILES DU DESIR ( french title of Wenders's Movie Wings of Desire aka Der Himmel über Berlin )
* The german title of the episode is Himmel über Berlin see 
If it is not enough ask Production I.G it was on their ( dead ) website too !
--Neuromancien 00:09, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know that we now have references for the list, but we need to find references for all the little things not included in the episodes themselves. Its frustrating to have tags like this on otherwise cited articles, but they are there for a reason, and we should endeour to meet the higher standards imposed upon the article rather than play catchup later. TomStar81 (Talk) 21:51, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree--Neuromancien 09:47, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Moved from SAC page... another lost thing : Much of this episode pays homage to the Wim Wenders film Wings of Desire ( originally Der Himmel über Berlin ).
Neuromancien (talk) 11:04, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  References for Episode 18 as an homage to Wim Wenders & Der Himmel über Berlin 

message: My experience on Wikis has led me to believe it prevents edit-wars and misunderstandings among editors to state what one feels to be inaccurate before altering it, or atleast state as best as one can why it is being changed if its doubtful a consensus might be reached by frequent editors.
Thus I'm changing the summary on this episode, the last line which currently reads:  "However, the lawyer and his client later die in a car crash: the episode implies that Section 9 caused the deaths." Is incorrect, the newscast at the end of the episode says that both are in critical condition and that the lawyers client has suffered major damage to his prosthetic body, not that either of them are dead.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.131.90.203 (talk) 20:04, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode 10 	"DI: One Angry Man – TRIAL" Inaccuracy 

message: I think it should be added.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.50.126.122 (talk) 00:20, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theory that the prosthetic-bodied girl from Episode 11 is the Motoko 

message: I'd like to propose that the formatting of the episode titles in this (and the SAC episode list) be altered to indicate that the "short" title ("Affection", "This Side of Justice", etc) is the "main" title, and also that the titles currently in caps be de-capitalised. Both the Production I.G. website and the Manga subsite list the "short" titles as the episode titles; the Production I.G. site also renders them in title case. Rendering them in this case also makes the episodes easier to refer to (and easier on the eye) in articles.
I suggest the format be standardised to something like the following: "Affection (Kusanagi's Labyrinth)" and that, perhaps, a column should be added into the table to denote the "Dividual", Individual" and Dual" designations. NJMcLellan (talk) 17:09, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: we shouldn't add the direct translation of the japanese names. it would be to in-universe to make special sections for the series. Suggest we keep the official english title.Lucia Black (talk) 00:54, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The translations are already there in the lists, and I'd be hesitant to remove them without (a lot) more discussion - looking over the talk pages for the two episode lists indicates that folks have gone to some effort to translate the Kanji. I suggest we rearrange the titles to focus on the official English titles (we can cite the Production I.G. site for this), and tag the translations as needing citations for now. NJMcLellan (talk) 12:01, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm trying to added to see if we can addd a translation parameter on the template.Lucia Black (talk) 15:56, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode Titles