Talk:Ryan Garko

message: Garko was technically not last in fielding percentage.  For guys with over 100 games at first base, he tied with Carlos Pena at .993 for last, but Eric Henske, Nick Swisher, and Matt Stairs, each with over 40 games at first, had a lower percentage.  And while a biography isn't a love letter to a player, there is also no reason to include his fielding percentage unless it was exceptionally good or bad.  .993 in his first year in the majors at that position and only second full year at it overall isn't that bad.  Now if his defense becomes an issue in his career, then I would see a reason for noting it.LightningMan 14:48, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He had the lowest fielding percentage of all qualifiers.  See http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/fielding?groupId=7&season=2007&seasonType=2&split=79&sortOrder=true&sortColumn=fieldingPct.  That is notable.--Epeefleche 18:56, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Truth in and of itself does not make it notable, you didn't rewrite the sentence to put in the caveat about qualifiers, and you still haven't justified its relevance.  You apparently have a thing for citing the worst fielding percentages among qualifiers, but unless there is something notable about the "badness" of the fielding percentage, it's a minor stat of no relevance.  If you notice, player boxes here do not mention fielding statistics at all. LightningMan 12:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Player boxes only mention a few stats.  I believe that there is a max of 5 or so.  The major stats urls all mention fielding percentage.  That is what makes it notable as a stat.  And this fellow is a league leader in low fielding percentage.  That is notable, as he has distinguished himself.  I'm not aware that he has led the league in any other area during any year of his major league career.  Your first points were baseless and arbitrary -- you picked 40 games, not the qualifying stats.  Now, you are trying to concoct/assert other arguments.  You also arbitrarily say that it might be relevant if it persisted over the course of his career, but not just for one year.  That is an arbitrary POV, and against the grain of how baseball stats are looked at -- stats relevant for careers are relevant for league-leader's for one year, as a general matter.  Further, this article is not limited to complimentary statements.  Please do not edit war.  If you have a problem with this, bring it to arbitration.--Epeefleche 15:07, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First, he does not have the lowest fielding percentage for first baseman.  He has the lowest fielding percentage for people who played over 100+ games at first.  There were others who played significant numbers of games at first, 40+, who were lower.  Next, if you read what I had typed earlier, you'd know that this is his first full year in the majors, which doesn't allow him a lot of time to have led the majors in anything.  Next, I picked 40 to show that these people played enough first base to be considered a first baseman.  Finally, your only defense of notability is that it occurred.  By this standard, a player who had a fielding percentage of .998 would be noteworthy for having the lowest fielding percentage if everyone else had a .999.  At any rate, I am amending your statement to include the caveat you left out.  If you have a problem with that, perhaps you should be the one to bring this to arbitration. LightningMan 14:55, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In the interest of ending our communication I will leave your addition in.  Though it makes as little sense to me as it would to add it to the batting title leader.--Epeefleche 03:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
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