Talk:Xi (letter)

message: How did the name xi originate?? Georgia guy 22:31, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because... uh... it stands for the sound [ks]? If you're looking for a deeper meaning than that, you're going to be disappointed. Though actually, it's a vaguely sensible question, as xi (unlike, say, alpha, beta, gamma, delta (letter)...) isn't named for the Phonecian letter it came from, probably because the Phonecian samekh represents a different sound, namely [s]. It's also probably because it was a slightly later development. 69.140.12.199 00:04, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, sigma got its name from samekh. So why did the Greeks make this letter out of samekh and sigma out of shin?? Georgia guy 01:12, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: short answer: nobody knows. "The problem of the sibilants is created by the existence of too many s sounds in Phoenician and too few in Greek" (Barry Powell, Homer and the Origin of the Greek Alphabet, 46). See Jeffery, The Local Scripts of Archaic Greece p. 32, for one hypothesis (Phoenician Samekh and Shin got mixed up with each other so that the Greeks called Ξ "kshi(n)" and Σ "Samekh", and also coincidentally they mixed up Tsade and Zayin). -leigh (φθόγγος) 02:57, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the Greek borrowing of zayin is zeta, which was a new name made in imitation of eta and theta, not a name that indicates it was mixed-up with another letter. Georgia guy 23:11, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Try this article. (Over nine years later, but an answer is better than none, right?) Double sharp (talk) 09:46, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Xi does not come from Samekh, as noted above Sigma is the correlate to Samekh, in fact the lowercase Sigma σ resembles the hebrew samekh in use today ס. Xi is likely related to Chet, phonetic drift is predictable there and also the Phoenician Chet resembles the greek uppercase Xi Ξ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heth  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.58.171.88 (talk) 22:11, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of name Xi 

message: I'm viewing this article in Opera in Linux, and the "The lower-case letter ξ is used as a symbol for..." section overlaps the "A joined variant of Ξ." image. I've tried several things to get this to stop, but haven't had success.   –Justin Force 15:42, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Layout problem in Opera 

message: ξ・∀・）  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.231.17.161 (talk) 20:18, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ξ・∀・） 

message: So someone moved the page without a discussion. I think it should be (letter) since that is what Xi is. I tried to move it, but it said an administrator needs to. Any thoughts? Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 03:21, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 

message: I guess that character is missing from my font. —Tamfang (talk) 02:55, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  equivalence sign 

message: I've previously removed the damping ratio (factor) usage for this letter - but it's come back. I can't find any reference where this quantity is not represented by the letter zeta. These letters can look similar, so it may be just a mistake. Unless some reference can be found for this, I shall re-remove it at some point. --catslash (talk) 10:14, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Damping ratio

message: Is it proper to capitalize names of letters of alphabets?  (Is it "Xi" or is it "xi"?) Robert K S (talk) 17:18, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization? 

message: The origins of the letter need to be covered. ᛭ LokiClock (talk) 16:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development of glyph 

message: Please change "" to "" as this should be the proper pronunciation in English. The pronunciation as it is now is for the letter Psi. Source: English pronunciation of Greek letters.
Jeffdgr8 (talk) 22:43, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. The current pronunciation () is how it is in the dictionary. Thanks, Stickee (talk) 01:22, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Actually, the second link gives both Greek and English pronunciation for each letter. But as you say, it's not really a good source. — Eru·tuon 20:05, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Jeffdgr8, 20 October 2010 

message: There is a use of lowercase xi not in the list, which is the Wadsworth Constant. This is a popular meme created by Reddit users which has already grown to widespread use.
It was created on this thread.
Mapppum (talk) 03:18, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: No.  Stop trying every means possible to get this non-notable idea into Wikipedia.  After it's written up in a newspaper article or academic journal, come back and see us again. Qwyrxian (talk) 01:32, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Mapppum, 2 October 2011 

message: Most of the other greek letters have a section like "(uppercase Η, lowercase η; Greek: Ήτα Ēta)".  It would be nice to have similar one here including the Greek name for the letter.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Maliberty (talk • contribs) 18:07, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add Greek Name 

message: In modern Greece, xi is often written with a vertical bar down the middle from top to bottom, so perhaps that should be mentioned in this article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.139.51.6 (talk) 20:57, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative stylization with vertical bar 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The article says " In the system of Greek numerals, it has a value of 60". when I follow the link to that article (Greek numerals), it does not show this. Additionally, I know that XI equals eleven, does the lower case "i" make a difference? And if we are linking the other article, shouldn't we make sure that the other article also backs up what is being claimed here? As far as I can tell, it does not.   Despayre  tête-à-tête 17:39, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Greek numerals#Table shows this. XI in the Roman numeral system are two characters, together representing eleven. Just plain Bill (talk) 19:22, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It would have been more precise if it used the Greek orthography, rather than the English name for the letter.  The table shows variously ,  and Ξʹ as being used to represent 60 in the system of Greek numerals. —DIV (49.195.177.247 (talk) 11:25, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad math? 

message: A lot of TV presenters have been referring to this letter with the same pronunciation as the President of China's surname.  I wouldn't put much stock in that, as I'd never heard anyone pronouncing Greek letter Xi as she (or similar) prior to the last month or so.  But could this Greek academic actually be correct?  
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-12-02/why-we-hear-about-some-covid-19-variants-more-than-others/13658624
—DIV (49.195.177.247 (talk) 11:19, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation revisionism?