Talk:Seven Network

message: I noticed a change made to this page, which moved the 7 Darwin affiliate to the "Seven network owned" section, with a note saying it was Southern Cross owned.  I reverted it back as that is the point of different sections of the list. 7 Darwin is just that, 7 Darwin, an affilate, and not part of the Seven Network anymore than Southern Cross Ten Victoria (to choose an example) is part of Network Ten. 7 Central is also an affilate, owned by Southern Cross, and also badged as 7, so why wouldn't that be moved as well? Because it isn't in a capital city? Then how about moving Southern Cross Tasmania and SC Ten Capital to the first list as well? You see what I mean... the lists (this list and also the Nine Network and Network Ten affilate lists) need to be consistent, otherwise there's no point.
Maybe sorting by station ownership isn't the best way to go, in which case feel free to re-arrange the list - but not just one item in the list at random.
I plan to do a more detailed table on the List of Australian television channels page detailing affiliates and stations in Australia. --Chuq 12:58, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Affiliate

message: Should  comment be made (possibly in the Sport's section) about the lawsuit on Seven that was started today Lochok 09:06, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure. It's already mentioned on C7. DynaBlast 05:32, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Current Lawsuit

message: i noticed that at the top of the page it states that 7 is the biggest television network when further down the page it states it is #2. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.217.30.26 (talk) 02:19, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume the first means largest as in highest potential viewing population, while the #2 is related to television ratings. DynaBlast 04:45, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Biggest network?

message: * Do we need a external link to Seven Perth, we dont have them for all state stations or is Seven Perth seperate in some way? Mike 05:01, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seven Perth is the only state station website. DynaBlast 07:52, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Links??

message: Can you people just choose a spelling and stop acting so childish about it. Also, in respect to the last person who edited the article, if you are going to go around changing the spelling just to prove a point you might want to actually look at what you're changing, as now all the broken wikilinks you created have to be edited. Slj 15:23, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As this article is about an Australian television network, Australian English should be used (it's in the MOS somewhere). "Program" is by far the most accepted spelling in Australian English. That's why articles such as Sunrise (TV program) and List of programs broadcast by Seven Network are located where they are. The spelling should be kept at "Program". Tntnnbltn 15:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling

message: It seems that whenever NBC was using a new slogan during the 80's, Seven got the slogan as well. The 1989 movie opener was borrowed from NBC's. Should this go into great detail or should it be merely included as a side note? 71.111.232.40 18:16, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Seven Network-NBC Link

message: Template: has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. J Ditalk 20:26, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: TfD nomination of Template:{{ucfirst:Seven Network tag}}

message: Anyone else had the experience of moving past a camera, having the moron walk into your path then having the idiot standing next to the cameraman abusing you and saying 'don't touch the camera' when he walked into you? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.169.194.37 (talk) 05:37, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Idiot cameramen

message: I just changed a bit of wording regarding Seven's running of Australian content: I wouldn't exactly call Good as Gold and Celebrity Survivor "popular", given their ratings and subjective viewer response. Cyril Washbrook 11:44, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Programming > Entertainment

message: Rather than jump in and be accused of vandalising the page, I would like to see a section on 7's lack of high definition programming on its digital services. Currently High Definition is digital television broadcast at the resolution of either 720p (720 'lines' progressively scanned), or 1080i (1080 lines interlaced), with 1080p as a future broadcasting standard but currently available via the new high definition players such as HD-DVD.
Whilst 9 and 10 use 1080i and ABC occasionally use 720p, Channel 7 currently broadcasts a 576p signal on channel 70, and claims this to be high definition, which it is not. In fact when broadcasting material such as film, it is no improvement on standard definition (576i).
There are numerous Wiki and other links to verify this, but thought I'd get comments before I go ahead. User: MichaelGG — Preceding undated comment added 00:39, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In Australia, 576p is considered High Definition. (I'm not saying anything about the quality of Seven's digital services, it's just that Seven is broadcasting in 'high definition'.) Tntnnbltn 06:38, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lack of High Definition Programming

message: As you can see at this Colombian blog post, which includes a 1991 recording of the defunct newscast Noticiero de las Siete (it ceased at late 1990s or early 2000s), its logo is the same than the Seven Network's logo since 2003... I don't know it it's plagiarism or not, but I leave this comment to let you know. --Julián Ortega - drop me a message 16:34, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Logo plagiarism?

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thread_title: TfD nomination of Template:{{ucfirst:Seven Network schedule}}

message: Why have these articles been split? What is the difference between the two? Is the new Seven Network article going to replace Seven Network Limited? Tntnnbltn 15:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: (Seven Network Limited is the ASX listed company.) --Tntnnbltn 16:09, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Splitting Channel Seven / Seven Network

message: The VPG is basically a stop-gap measure in place of full 7-day program guide information; I think the assertion that it is a seperate channel is misleading. Seeing as it is effectively a datacast (akin to Digital 44) I suggest that the 'free to air channels ' section be removed/altered seeing as the Seven Guide is outside of most viewer's uses. timgraham 07:08, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Video Program Guide

message: I replaced the  tag because - to me at least - it seems to be written from a very subjective angle full of statements like 'when TV finally came to Australia' etc. timgraham 11:20, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After re-analysing the section, I have to agree with you that certain phrases should be modified to portray a more encyclopic tone. Stickeylabel 13:36, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History section

message: I'm tempted to put a fansite or POV tag as it comes across at times as advertising or a glowing fan site about how good Channel 7 is to Nine. Michellecrisp 07:44, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If there are any sentences that are advertising, can you please bring them to attention? As I have not been able to find anything on the article that defames the Nine Network, or boasts the Seven Network. Alot of work has been contributed to the article, of which has a neutral point of view, and alot of work has been contributed to the history seciton to ensure it complies with Wiki Ettiquete, and that it is not biased. Again, can you please give us an example of any sentences that you believe are violations. Thanks in advance. Stickeylabel 21:44, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: this article

message: I have now cited several statements and removed the Citation Tag. Stickeylabel 08:07, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations

message: Although I have no hard evidence to back up my concerns, I have worries about the statement:
"In 1977, the Seven Network produced its first live telecast, of which was the VFL Grand Final. This was the first of several live telecasts in the decades to follow."
As someone who was well and truly around in 1977, I can't imagine that this was the first 'live' telecast by ATN 7 and HSV 7 either as independent broadcasters, or as a network, especially as the coaxial cable connection between Sydney and Melbourne had been well and truly established in the 1960s and to other places before 1977.
Markswan 10:40, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I presume it was originally intended to be: "In 1977, the Seven Network produced its first live sports telecast, of which was the VFL Grand Final. This was the first of several live sporting telecasts in the decades to follow." Hopefully someone can confirm this. Stickeylabel 11:06, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: First live telecast?

message: how upto date should the schedule be? because seven is showing criminal minds for 2 hours from 8:30pm for the next 2 weeks so thats why i changed it, only after that will Shark be airing — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jey16 (talk • contribs) 01:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The schedule is for encyclopedic purposes only, and should not contain region or event specific programming. Stickeylabel 01:11, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Can I ask why we even have a schedule? Isn't that what a tv guide is for? I dont think its particularly encyclopedic Muzzamo (talk) 06:21, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, Muzzamo.--AtD (talk) 07:14, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So, are we to remove it? --AtD (talk) 09:46, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yep i support it being left off Muzzamo (talk) 11:35, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've started a discussion about this at Wikipedia:Village pump (policy)#Television schedules in network articles, because it seems that it's quite a widespread thing, and I don't want to misunderstand prevailing views about the acceptability of these schedule things. - Mark 11:38, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Schedule

message: Seven said something after the Heroes finale about 'Fast tracking' it on a live schedule from the US later this year. Does anyone have any more info and could you add it to the page, please? — mattrobs 11:25, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: FastTrack

message: This may seem like an odd question, but considering that the Sunshine Coast has both Seven Brisbane and Seven Queensland transmitted digitally, which one is Digital Channel 7 (or 70) and what is the other? ZanderSchubert 07:07, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Seven Digital Queensland

message: I have added a To-Do template at the top of this page, and I have also added in a few tasks that need to be completed. Please add, modify or complete any of the tasks on the list, in order to raise the quality of this article. Stickeylabel 07:24, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll have a look later tonight, and fix/work on what I see as problems - there's some particularly awkward phrasing in the article (the 'broadcast signal' for the network 'arising' from the Melbourne Docklands would be on highlight, as well as the fact that a lot of paragraphs begin with 'On ... such-and-such happened). It would also be good to try and either trim down, categorise more strictly, or turn into lists, some of the stuff in the programming section - I see there's a main article for it already. It would be good to come up with something of a 'formula' for the Availability sections as well because, the way I see it, they're a bit awkward in terms of phrasing. timgraham 07:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good work with the Lead section Tim :). Do you think the history section needs to be expanded? In my opinion, the 2000s section should be updated and cleaned up, as at current there is no flow with the paragraphs. Also, I have attempted to clean up the introduction to the programming section. In my opinion, the programming section would be best served with distinct paragraphs relating to differing program genres, ie. Drama, Children etc. Because at current it is a bit of a mess. Stickeylabel 12:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I've done more history, I just need to hunt down some sources for it all..I'll take care of the 2000s  later on. timgraham 13:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

text: We need references for the history section - the entire first bit is almost entirely uncited. I don't have huge amounts of time to do it now but I'll have a look later on. timgraham 07:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: To-Do List

message: This article reads well and is close to meeting the GA criteria.  My only suggestion is that references should be provided for the following paragraphs please:
:The Seven Network began as a group of independent stations in Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane, Adelaide and Perth. HSV-7 Melbourne, licensed to The Herald and Weekly Times Ltd (owners of two local papers at the time, The Herald and The Sun), was the first station in the country to use the VHF7 frequency. It launched on November 4, 1956, soon joined on December 2 by Amalgamated Television Services' ATN-7 in Sydney. By 1957 the two stations had begun to form content-sharing partnerships with their VHF9 counterparts - in ATN's case GTV-9, for HSV, TCN-9. HSV's relationship with the Victorian Football League, forerunner to the Australian Football League, began in April, 1957 when the station broadcast the first ever live Australian Rules football match. TVW-7 Perth began broadcasting almost two years later, on October 16, 1959. The city's first commercial station was licensed to TVW Limited, owned by West Australian Newspapers, publisher of The West Australian. BTQ-7 Brisbane, the city's second commercial television licensee, followed on November 1.
:Throughout this time, the stations operated independently of each other, with schedules comprised of various simple, and relatively inexpensive, programmes - shows such as Pick a Box and spinoffs of popular radio shows. In the early 1960s, coaxial cable links, formed initially between Sydney and Melbourne, allowed the sharing of programs and simultaneous broadcasts of live shows. Frank Packer, owner of HSV's Sydney partner TCN-9 bought a controlling share of the station's Melbourne counterpart, GTV-9, in 1960, in the process creating the country's first television network. HSV and ATN joined together to form the Australian Television Network in 1963. ADS-7 in Adelaide was the final capital city station to launch, on July 26, 1965. The station later swapped frequencies with SAS-10, however, in order to become SAS-7.
I'm putting this article on hold as the article is close to GA status, however the issue noted above must be dealt with before GA status can be awarded. I hope that this can be addressed within the seven days allowed by on hold, and wish you all the best with your editing... Johnfos 01:50, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! I've just shifted/added the references so the two paragraphs you'be mentioned - hopefully it's all good. timgraham 06:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Good article nomination

message: Network 7 redirects to Seven Network; can we add a link as such
:Network 7 redirects here. For the UK television series, see Network 7 (TV series)
Walt111 (talk) 12:41, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Network 7 (TV series)

message: I was watching our local Seven affiliate, who sometimes don't bother to remove the 7 Branding, and they were advertising either Heroes or Gladiators in the credits of a show, and they said "Fast Track to Seven". Is this a one-off thing, or a new motto? And if the latter, would it need intergration into the article? Douglas C (talk) 05:09, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the tagline they use when they're trying to say that the show in question is being shown on Seven very quickly after being shown in America (usually within a few days or a couple weeks, as opposed to the more usual months). It's not really a slogan for the entire station, though. - Mark 05:23, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah! Okay, thanks for that. Douglas C (talk) 04:27, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Slogan

message: Citations for the dates of the logo changes??  For instance, the logo change of 1989 actually happened late on January, not on January 1 as someone has deemed here.  This seems to be a common theme amongst these TV pages that dates are just wildly guessed with nothing to back them up Andjb (talk) 13:33, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See my comment at Talk:Nine Network#logo changes. Bidgee (talk) 14:07, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Logo Changes

message: Please explain. 203.59.182.43 (talk) 14:50, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: What defines LCN 7 as the main channel over LCN's 71 / 72 / 73=

message: well this looks like a well made page so i won't muck with it myself. but is it time to add new shows for '09 like australian shows: Thank god you're here, 10 years younger in 10 days, triple zero heroes, beyond the darklands, gangs of oz, worlds strictest parents, the pacific - not sure if that counts as aussie or american and international shows cupid, gary unmarried, castle, the philanthropist, kings, mommas boys and in the motherhood
some aren't on the "List of programs broadcast by Seven Network" either
also i think australia's best backyards is a thing of the past and the outdoor room was not renued. Jerome w2 (talk) 05:21, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: (programming) New shows for '09

message: Why doesn't this page be able to have a programming schedule, but channels such as ABC, CBS, FOX and NBC are able to have one? It doesn't make sense. Maybe we should remove the ones on THOSE articles because WIKIPEDIA IS NOT AN EPG.
---XJ--- (talk) 11:36, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. Go ahead and remove it from those articles. - Mark 13:44, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

text: And then get in trouble for it? No thanks. ALl I want is a straightforward answer, not some stupid answer skipping around the issue. XavierJ (talk) 06:34, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You have your answer. The only reason people haven't already gone ahead and removed the schedules from those articles is that they/we don't want to cause a shitstorm, same as you. This article has less network fanboys to cause dramas, so it is easier to keep within policy. Your argument runs along the same lines as WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. I sympathise. - Mark 08:49, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless, wikipedia often strives for linearity so it's only fair.IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 02:41, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You can't go against policy! WP:NOTDIRECTORY: Wikipedia is not an electronic program guide. Bidgee (talk) 02:45, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

text:  "storically significant programme lists and schedules (such as the annual United States network television schedules) may be acceptable" doesnt seem like its going against policy at all. IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 11:14, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The Schedule being added isn't historic nor is it significant. Bidgee (talk) 14:01, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Yet us schedule is? says right in the policy that it is.IAmTheCoinMan (talk) 12:28, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Programming Schedule

message: The dates for David Leckie are quite wrong.
Leckie was not at Seven for the Olympics. He was sacked from Nine by Kerry Packer in 2002 & was picked up by Seven in 2003  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.8.18.55 (talk) 17:33, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Leckie timing

message: My memory tells me there used to be many older 7 Network logos, in the logo section of this page. Logos from the Fairfax era. The Skase era. Did someone remove the old logos? Where have they gone?Pigmypossum (talk) 01:00, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Logo removal

message: Someone might want to add the details about the launch of Seven Two on Sunday. I would, but I don't understand how.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.233.41.254 (talk) 13:37, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Seven Two

message: list of shows should be somewhere else
yeah it's a TV network they have lots of show
we get it  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.170.59.138 (talk) 21:26, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: list page

message: With the addition of 7Two and now 7mate, is there a need to divide the current article into seperate articles, such as:
*Seven Network (or perhaps Seven Network Operations or similar)
:*Channel Seven (or perhaps 7 (Australian television channel) or Seven Network or another distinct name)
:*7Two
:*7mate
The main article could have a general overview of the operations of all three networks followed by separate sections for each channel with a Template:Main hatnote in each to the full article.
The same should go for Nine Network/Go!/GEM and Network Ten/One/Eleven.  —sroc (talk) 09:35, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal to split channel into separate article

message: I've noticed the new edit on the Programming section is critical of the Seven Network, this is directly against Wikipedia:Point of view.
I've placed a template on the section. I'm open to debate and comments on the issue.  Sincerly, camerontregantalk  10:26, 6 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I am disappointed at your decision to merely place a template. Content like this, which I have quoted below, should not be allowed to stay for even a second once it is discovered. I am deleting it--Jamesneilanderson (talk) 14:39, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  "Over the last couple of years the Seven Network has shown contempt for its viewing audience. Constant and unadvertised last minute changes to the schedule has seen an decrease in viewers and has contributed to the increase in the Australian public illegally downloading programs rather than watching on the Seven Network. Program start time delays are another sour point for audiences, on average programs run 10 to 15 minutes overtime, the programs responisbile for this are all the pre-recorded "reality" shows for which there is no excuse as these shows are edited and the running time is available to the station and therefore they are more than able to correctly collate a viewing timetable and are more that capable of advertising correct starting times for their audience. The only possible reasoning for the this is to try and entrap viewers and there have them aviod switching channels, this in itself is no a new tactic but the Seven Network does it with extreme contempt for their audience and then cries poor when the audience numbers and advertising dollars are not there. They are also extremely lazy and promotional advertising for uncoming shows, often flogging the same 10 second clip of a show week in week out for months and it is never relavent to the upcoming episode of the show in question".--Jamesneilanderson (talk) 14:39, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry I didn't take further action, I didn't realise I was allowed to delete it. Cheers, camerontregantalk 11:28, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality on the Programming section.

message: h  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.149.81.13 (talk) 09:29, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Who are the major players in the seven network?

message: I have noticed that there are no images of historic logos of the Seven Network. According to this post the page did use to have these images, but they were apparently removed a number of years ago. I do not know the reason why the images were removed, but I am of the opinion that some form of imagery depicting the historical logos should exist on the page for the benefit of users who wish to know the historic appearance of the network logo. Please note that I have also added the "Logo requested" template.
114.75.116.141 (talk) 14:05, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Historic network logo images

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect Australian Television Network. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 May 8#Australian Television Network until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  - CHAMPION (talk) (contributions) (logs)  10:36, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Australian Television Network" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: (Someone please fix the Grammar of this section- I barely understand what the editor is attempting to say and don't know enough about the topic.) 
"Seven is now share the Disney films and televisions with the streaming online of Disney+ because the studio needs to leave room for other Warner Bros. films, Sony, Fox, and new Disney films while they moved Paramount films to Nine and also return couple Warner Bros. films to Nine Network, but Seven and Nine are also share with Disney, Sony, and Warner Bros."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.216.90.28 (talk) 01:07, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammatical Issue  

message: You said that the chase Australia was going to be new episodes but the ones that are on now are repeats. How do I know this is that I remember this episode which is currently being viewed 120.22.173.36 (talk) 07:58, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The chace Australia 

message: As a country that has one of the largest amount of gamblers in the world, I find it irresponsible for tv stations to constantly bombard us with gambling adds. 
I have never complained before about adds but enough is enough. Not only are we having to watch this garbage, but what an insult to our intelligence.  Come on at least restrict the time of day we have to endure them. At least after 8.30 so children aren’t exposed to the brainwashing which is in their content.
Surely you must feel some responsibility for showing these in prime time and when the most vulnerable people are watching.  Gamblers will still be watching later into the night so you will still reach your target audience.
Regards
Sharon Fleming. 120.22.35.219 (talk) 09:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Betting adds 

message: Hello im just wondering for the sisters channel that 7kids is real? Is there any source that it will launch next year? Please and Thank You. HaloEE11 (talk) 01:02, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  7kids is real? 

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