Talk:AEK Athens F.C.

message: The History section of this article was lifted from the AEK website. I have removed it. Thanks/wangi 14:33, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't agree with your view that AEK's claim to be a "refugee club" is propaganda. Firstly, the Greek population of Constantinople was exempt from the population exchange in 1923, but there was a steady decline in The City's Greek population from as early as 1919 - many men fled with their families to avoid conscription to the Ottoman Army, while others fled to avoid Turkish nationalist reprisals. While not, arguably, pogroms, the gradual introduction of measures (and later, laws) by the Turks to exclude and isolate the Greek population made their lives in the city untenable, hence the steady exodus to Greece. The population of Nea Filadelfia - where AEK was established - much like other suburbs such as Nea Smyrni and Nea Ionia, did not comprise of only Constantinopolitans (many of whom were, indeed, refugees), but refugees from all over Asia Minor. The Constantinopolitans were the driving force in creating AEK in 1924, but they created the club for all the refugees from Asia Minor, as is evident in the background of its athletes and supporters.Dragases (talk) 09:01, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright violation 

message: I've uploaded an SVG-format graphic of the club emblem. Dragases 11:00, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emblem 

message: I recommend that we move the article to AEK FC; this is the official name of the club. AEK Athens FC is only used by UEFA. Opinions? Dragases
:In articles on Wikipedia, the UEFA usage is normally used. In English usage, the team is normally referred to as "AEK Athens" (except by the idiot sportscaster on Sky News who pronounces it "Ike"!) -- Arwel (talk) 18:08, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AEK FC or AEK Athens FC 

message: Is incredibly biased and sounds like it was written by the most fawning of AEK supporters.--GoHawks4 22:46, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What's exactly the problem? Can you mention a part that annoys you?XVA 02:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually, the city's name was officially changed to İstanbul in 1930, so there is no need for a parenthetical mention.Dragases (talk) 11:22, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section 

message: I've done a major rewrite of the existing article to make it a flow a little better and to make it little more palatable to Wikipedia tastes (less biased/POV). I've also separated the History section into major eras (20 year blocks), and added a Kit Evolution section. Please let me know of any errors - detailed information on the club is a little difficult to obtain when you're not in Greece... P.S. A credit to Phantis Wiki for the various player bios. Dragases 02:57, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Rewrite 

message: Even though most of the kits I've included in the Evolution section are accurate, some may not be due to a lack of accessible club photographic material at the time. In these cases, I've made an educated guess. Please feel free to adjust if you are sure about a specific kit. Cheers. Dragases 08:22, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: AEK Kit Evolution

message: Why was AEK's kit evolution section removed? A club's kit evolution is one of the most interesting aspects of its history.203.15.18.20 03:17, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of Kit Evolution

message: I've just added a Greek transliteration/English translation of the the lyrics to the AEK Anthem. Dragases 10:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: AEK Club Anthem

message: I noticed that user 85.75.222.152 recently deleted a few small sections in the article with regard to AEK's links to the Istanbul-based Pera Club. Though not a direct continuation of AEK or PAOK, I believe that it is important to at least mention the link that Pera Club (or at least, its athletes) had with AEK and PAOK. If AEK did not consider it's link to Pera Club important, then I don't believe club officials would have bothered to visit Pera Club during their recent trip to Istanbul as part of AEK's 80th Anniversary.Dragases 01:22, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Deletions/Modifications

message: Having veteran players listed with their numbers can be a problem. Players change positions and change numbers. 
I corrected Mimis Papaioannou's number to 10 because he was an inside-left when he won the two top-scorer titles in the 60's. Nestoridis wore number 9 when Papaioannou won his first title. I think Karafeskos wore it in 1966. 
Andreas Stamatiadis was an outside-right and wore number 7 throughout the 60's. --Irlandos (talk) 14:38, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Veteran Players' Numbers

message: It is a let down that the new and improved article was rated as "start", seeing how the poorer predecessor was rated "B". Would the addition of footnotes help in raising the grade?XVA 10:47, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The ratings are not about quality, per se.  For this article to be rated B Class, sources are key.  They do not have to be inline citations for the article to be B Class, but inline citations would help it become a "Good Article," so why not just do it all at once. Argos'Dad 18:10, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Start Class?

message: Our total tally is 11 league titles and not 13,since the midwar championships aren't officially recognized.XVA 11:41, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  AEK league titles. 

message: there wasn't a league in 1940-41, although u have invented not only a league but an official  win 7-3 against Olympiakos. Go to www.epo.gr and see if there has been a league in year 1940-41. this is of course an unofficial game which u have put in a fictional 1940-41 league.
The 1940-41 league DID start and AEK DID win Olympikos 7-3 (29-09-1940). The championship stopped because of the Greco-Italian War (28-10-1940) but until then the matches were official. --Darth21 12:03, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Biggest wins

message: aek isn't the only greek team who has won all the domestic titles. olympiakos and panathinaikos has done the same. be accurate and not fanatic.
Neither Olympiakos nor Panathinaikos have won the League Cup or the Pre-Mediterranean Cup so please be more carefull and don't accuse someone of being something you propably are. --Darth21 16:02, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Propaganda

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:AEK--1960.svg.png

message: The date AEK was found is April 13...here is the source...now stop changing it...Source The-real-zeus 23:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Date Found

message: Panagiotis Tachtsidis appeared on the latest AEK cup game and cup games are official, hence he is a part of AEK squad. The official AEK site is simply not updated frequently enough,this should not limit wikipedia. Please do not edit his name out or I will be forced to take this issue higher. XVA 20:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tachtsidis

message: ===Shirt sponsors and manufacturers===
Period   	Kit Manufacturer	Shirt Sponsor
1986–89  	Zita            	Ethniki Asfalistiki
1989–90  	Diadora         	Ethniki Asfalistiki
1990–93  	Diadora         	None
1993–95  	Basic           	Phoenix Asfaleies
1995–96  	Kappa           	Ethniki Asfalistiki
1996–98  	Kappa           	Geniki Bank
1999     	Kappa           	Firestone
1999-2000	Kappa           	Marfin
2000-01  	Nike            	Marfin
2001-02  	Nike            	Alpha Digital
2002-04  	Nike            	Piraeus Bank
2004     	Nike            	TIM
2005-06  	Adidas          	TIM
2006-07  	Adidas          	LG
2007-08  	Puma            	LG
Keeping this hear incase needed..The-Real-ZEUS (talk) 19:16, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: M+S

message: Period   	Kit Manufacturer	Shirt Sponsor
1986–89  	Zita            	Ethniki Asfalistiki
1989–90  	Diadora         	Ethniki Asfalistiki
1990–93  	Diadora         	None
1993–95  	Basic           	Phoenix Asfaleies
1995–96  	Kappa           	Ethniki Asfalistiki
1996–98  	Kappa           	Geniki Bank
1999     	Kappa           	Firestone
1999-2000	Kappa           	Marfin
2000-01  	Nike            	Marfin
2001-02  	Nike            	Alpha Digital
2002-04  	Nike            	Piraeus Bank
2004     	Nike            	TIM
2005-06  	Adidas          	TIM
2006-07  	Adidas          	LG
2007-08  	Puma            	LG
Keeping this hear incase needed..The-Real-ZEUS (talk) 19:16, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Shirt sponsors and manufacturers

message: I have been editing this article for some time....when i started editing this article it was rated a Start, thanks to everybody who has contributed it has now been moved to a B class....props!!The-Real-ZEUS (talk) 18:21, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: B

message: I do not know much about greek football, so can someone check who was the AEK's chairman in 1952. Because if it was the famous Eleftherios Venizelos, who died in 1936, then I would like to see some sources that AEK had a dead person as a chairman! 
by the way @ The-Real-ZEUS if this is indeed a mistake can you fix the related links at the pages you have created directing to the following article of Eleftherios Venizelos, such as here and here 
Thank you in advance-- A.Cython (talk) 17:05, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for placing things in order, and don't worry about me... I found it amusing that AEK was having (in WP even for a few days) a dead man for chairman! lol A.Cython (talk) 13:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Checking history! 

message: "In Greece there are no Home and Away kits, per se. Teams always wear their 1st kit unless there is a resemblance between both team kits."
And in which country it isn't this way? There is no need to emphasize something like this.Zhelja (talk) 01:21, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe there is a need to emphasise this. In England and Australia (to name a few), teams playing at home always wear their home kit and away teams must always revert to their away kit if the colours are similar to the home team. In Greece, however, the home team is obliged to change to its alternate kit as a courtesy. There is a difference. Dragases (talk) 11:21, 3 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Yes, the home team changes their kit as a courtesy. In the recent play-off game between AEK - Aris (at AEK's home ground) AEK wore all-white while Aris wore their home colours of yellow and black. 203.15.18.20 (talk) 06:30, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kit 

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thread_title: Survey

message: I will remove entries for Blanco and Edinho in the Players In on loan list as they now have signed contracts. Also, I don't understand why they figure in the 2007/2008 squad changes as "In", since they were only loans. In my opinion, loaned players must not appear in that list. El-greco (talk) 13:02, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Loans became transfers

message: Darth21, I don't understand why you keep reverting changes about the squad. You claim that the official site has not updated the squad list, however reliable media indicates that some players have left the club. Sources are not only official sites, but reliable media too. AEK article is not a copy of the official site. Or else, we should change the classification according to the official site's classification, and place AEK in first position of the league ;) El-greco (talk) 08:27, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since nobody has responded to my commentary, I have edited the squad changes again with refs to reliable media. El-greco (talk) 17:52, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reverts and Sources

message: Παρακαλούνται οι φίλοι της ΑΕΚ να πάψουν να προσθέτουν τίτλους που δήθεν κατέκτησε η ΑΕΚ μεσούσης της κατοχής, αστεία τουρνουά τύπου «Προμεσογειακό τουρνουά 1991» και λοιπά. Είναι ο μόνος σύλλογος στον οποίο γίνονται αυτά και νομίζω ότι τον εξευτελίζουν αντί να τον δοξάζουν. Dimitrissss (talk) 12:30, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Πού θα πάει η βαλίτσα με τις χαζομάρες των ανώνυμων Αεκτσήδων; Πιστεύει κανείς από σας ότι προσθέτοντας στην ομάδα σας ανύπαρκτους τίτλους θα τα δουν οι ξένοι, θα θαμπωθούν, και θα αναφωνήσουν «Ουάου, τι ομαδάρα είναι αυτή;» (γιατί οι Έλληνες ξέρουν...) Dimitrissss (talk) 14:16, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Μου φαίνεται ότι όσο δεν διαφαίνεται στον ορίζοντα ότι η ΑΕΚ θα πάρει κανέναν τίτλο σε ποδόσφαιρο και μπάσκετ, τόσο θα την ψωνίζουν οι οπαδοί της και θα προσθέτουν ανύπαρκτους τίτλους που δήθεν κέρδισε η ομάδα τους δεκαετίες πριν... Dimitrissss (talk) 01:29, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As this is the English language Wikipedia, please could you use English? Ta. Dancarney (talk) 16:43, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Really, Dimitrissss? You couldn't find a forum to troll? Dragases (talk) 15:27, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Τίτλοι

message: A very very good team.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by ArgGeo (talk • contribs) 16:34, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: temp

message: I've removed an image showing what puports to be the AEK line-up from the players section. As this will change game-by-game it is very recentist, and as such should be discouraged. Secondly, without sources explicitly stating line-up, formation, etc, (rather than compiling appearance data from the current season) this is original research. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 08:35, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If that is the case, then why do other Greek teams like Olympiacos F.C., Panathinaikos F.C. and PAOK F.C. still have the image on them. Doesn't make sense. If you want to see a game-by-game explanation of roster changes, go here. The starting lineup on the image provided here is the one the coach uses most in training, the press shows the most, and is partly based on the linked page's stats as well. Recentist policy does not apply here. Could I restore it now? - JEA13 (talk) 14:53, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a good argument for retention, besides there is no source. You won't find any football club articles that have reached featured article status that have this kind of image on, and  these are the closest to a gold standard that exists. I don't understand why you don't think that recentism doesn't apply? Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 15:48, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: An image depicting the most used formation during a certain season does per definitionem not belong into an article which deals with general information on a club. It might also not be suitable for the respective season articles such as 2010–11 AEK Athens F.C. season unless there is a reliable source which exactly mirrors the aspect which is intended to be presented. Any self-conducted synthesis of multiple sources, e.g. match reports, constitutes original research and is therefore not permitted. So, any of these pictures, regardless in which article, should be removed immediately. --Soccer-holicI hear voices in my head... 16:44, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Line-up image 

message: It's too much yellow on list of players and it hurts your eyes to read. I understand that this matches with the colors of the team but it would be better to change back to what we had before. Anybody agrees?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eurosergiu (talk • contribs) 21:03, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I've removed it a couple of times now. Makes the article look like a fansite. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 13:38, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yellow 

message: Does this mean adding AEK's results every season? If this is the case, I could help in that. Psyrras Panagiotis 13:09, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season to season 

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message: According to the 2016–17_Superleague_Greece#League_table, AEK finished 4th. Therefore, this reversion is incorrect. Dr. K. 13:36, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes and no. They ended 4th in the league play, but they won the play-off between team 2 to 5, and is therefore awarded place 2 (and Champions League participation), as shown here (and in the source). A strange system that probably should be explained better. --T*U (talk) 14:59, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks T*U for the explanation. Strange system indeed, but I can see that. The thing is when we say in the infobox 2016–17_Superleague_Greece, then we should use the final table of the Superleague, not of the matchups. Except if the matchups also change the final table standings, in which case we should revise the table itself. Dr. K. 15:31, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Again I think it is "Yes and no", so the best solution is to show both. I'll make a try. --T*U (talk) 18:27, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: What a mess. But I think your solution is great. Thanks again T*U. Dr. K. 04:44, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Finishing place of AEK in the Greek Superleague

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message: Antonis2127 (talk) 18:30, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. SparklingPessimist Scream at me! 18:33, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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