Talk:Mainland Regional High School (New Jersey)

message: Notable list entries need to have their own article.  This is being challenged by user:Alansohn who frequently uses as an edit caption "(remove individual from list of notables, who needs both a Wikipedia article **AND** independent reliable and verifiable sources establishing connection here, as specified by WP:NLIST)".  Consensus shows this, but the user is now calling edits in which other editors do exactly that disruptive.  It's as true when you edit it as when another editor does.  This behavior is in itself quite disruptive, and is demonstration of ownership.  Please desist. Jacona (talk) 15:42, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: My perpetual stalker has followed me here, as well. A longstanding consensus is that individuals with articles and sources belong on lists of notables, and there are thousands of such entries across Wikipedia with redirected articles that are listed as notable. The sourcing is clear and unchallenged. Any claim that there is a Wikipedia policy that would explicitly prohibit this would make the argument credible. Without anything to back it up, there's nothing here. Alansohn (talk) 12:49, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Please quit making false assertions in an attempt to justify your edits.  These WP:ASPERSIONS are just as rude as the sexual vulgarities and racial pejoratives you have posted on my talk page.  You are now claiming one thing is true for your edits: "(remove individual from list of notables, who needs both a Wikipedia article **AND** independent reliable and verifiable sources establishing connection here, as specified by WP:NLIST)", and another thing is true for other's edits.  Basically it seems, the rule is that "Alonsohn owns all Wikipedia articles involving New Jersey." Clearly, no editor WP:OWNS any article.  Please consider being consistent, civil, following consensus, and avoiding personal attacks. Jacona (talk) 13:33, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Sadly, , the claim of stalking is based on ample evidence of harassment at Christian Brothers Academy (see here) and at Cooper Union (see here), just two examples among many more of articles that you had never edited before and for which your only interest is based on my recent edits to the articles. A redirect is an article, and an article with a source is perfectly appropriate for inclusion on a list, as is done in thousands of Wikipedia articles. Do you have evidence to the contrary? What about any support for your crap about "sexual vulgarities and racial pejoratives"? Please try to address the issue with policy-based arguments. Alansohn (talk) 16:14, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The allegations of stalking, are worse than groundless, they are the opposite of reality.  I've edited thousands of articles, a very few of which are to New Jersey articles. In these articles, the very next edit comes from you in a shockingly large percentage of them.  Whether you are stalking me, or just attempting to bully anyone who dares edit New Jersey articles is immaterial.  As far as your pejoratives go, neither my race nor yours should have any bearing on the merits of our edits.  Since you posted them, it really shouldn't be necessary to direct you to your racist comments and other incivility; you know more than anyone else what you posted and why you posted it. Since you insist on extensive wikilawyering, here is a link to my talk page, where you posted these attacks in spite of my repeated requests that you not post there.  Please stop your personal attacks and try building the encyclopedia instead of trying to make it into a WP:BATTLEGROUND. Jacona (talk) 16:50, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, , the claims of stalking are rather strong and haven't been rebutted. Simple denial doesn't solve the problem. We also have to look at your editing history. Take a look at the article for Miami Palmetto High School, which you have edited several times over the past two years, as just one example of many. There are more than 30 notables, but not one of them has a source. Two of the notables -- Camila Cabello and Matt Mehana -- are redirects. Yet you haven't removed those two entries, or the other 30 notables without sources. Are you advocating a position at this article that reliably sourced entries for notables with redirects cannot be included in an article, or is this just a sick game? Do you have any policy-based argument here? Maybe it's time to move on and start applying your own rules to the articles you own. Alansohn (talk) 17:29, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The claims of stalking are incredibly weak and have been rebutted, they are ludicrous.  If you believe you had a case, it would be a simple matter to take administrative action.  You have not done so, because you well know that your accusations are nothing more than a part of your attempt to maintain personal control of everything being posted in New Jersey-related articles.  It's just silly, and I'm not going to be bullied away by your racism, incivility, and vulgarity.  It is true that I edit somewhat differently in New Jersey articles than others, because of your bullying and ownership.  You have no lack of capacity to make wordy attacks like this where you misrepresent the truth, including here, where you try to turn things around.  A quick look shows you have posted edit captions hundreds, if not thousands of times that an article is required, yet when another editor removes material for which there is no article, you pounce.  If I make an edit to a NJ article, simply removing a space, you edit the article within minutes.  Then you assert that if I edit any article you have ever edited then I am stalking you! Please consider for a second that the policies against personal attacks, ownership, bullying, etc. and for consensus apply to you equally as to other editors. I would like the discussion on this talk page to be about this article, but unfortunately all attempts to engage begin with you making a personal attack.  Please reconsider your manner and maybe we can both go forth with the purpose of improving the encyclopedia, rather than asserting your dominance. Jacona (talk) 17:50, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm editing articles on my watchlist, while you've regularly followed me from article to article that you've never edited before. Rebut the stalking at Christian Brothers and Cooper Union, but most of all, get of my back. The hypocrisy of removing notables in one place with a redirect and keeping them elsewhere is staggering. Cut the crap and move on. Show that you are indeed capable of editing productively. Maybe hat can start by showing some policy-based argument to be removing notables, and then start following that policy consistently, one way or the other.  Alansohn (talk) 18:03, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Simply untrue.  It's back to middle school for "opposite day." While I have NOT followed you anywhere, every time I edit a NJ article, there you are almost immediately.  Very few of my edits are to New Jersey, but every one of them, including removing a single errant space is treated as if it were a personal attack on you. As far as hypocrisy, take an honest look at your own edits, for heaven's sake, and stop the harassment and bullying.  Quit making Wikipedia your personal battleground. Jacona (talk) 18:20, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
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