Talk:Momordica charantia

message: What are the Chinese characters for Bitter Melon (Foo Gwa)?
Foo Gwa is the pronunciation in Cantonese (and perhaps some other dialects) and be written the same (苦瓜) as shown in the main article.  However, because of the negative connotations of "bitter", it is often written, e.g. on menus as 涼瓜 "cool melon".Jinrikiwiki (talk) 11:28, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese characters 

message: In addition to this, staying on the language subject, about halfway down the page is a comment that says "There is a saying...." and goes on to say something in what I think is Malaysian... that's fine, but what's it mean? It just seems like a completely dissociated comment.
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thread_title: Karela saying

message: Does this plant contain quinine?  Various websites claim it does, but I've been unable to locate a primary source for this info 4hodmt 15:20, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quinine question 

message: I have tried to organize a little without taking away any information.  If I did it was a mistake.
I tried to separate the long list of names in many languages into those that are actually used in English text and those that are only used in their original languages.  Basically, I googled for "the karela" and "the ampalaya" and got convincing results, but couldn't find a lot of relevant uses of "the pavakka" or "the karawila".
— Pekinensis 18:51, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent reorganization 

message: My wife likes to stuff bitter melon with a pork mixture and boil it. We eat it with rice. The Pilipino version I had was baked and stuffed with ground beef and cheese. That one was mighty tasty! The bitterness can be somewhat alleviated by baptising it in soy sauce. Do Americanos really know about this fruit?Jlujan69 22:13, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recipes 

message: Please merge Foo qua into Bitter melon. Badagnani 20:33, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.--Curtis Clark 04:34, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Bitter Melons or Bitter Gourds are also known as Karelas, or the alternative spelling Karella. Please stop removing this. Vexorg (talk) 03:21, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Source it and/or give it a language. — LlywelynII 13:50, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Karela/Karella 

message: I am interested in Bitter Melon for Diabetes and there seems to be a website dedicated to this too:
http://www.bittermelondiabetes.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.201.93.17 (talk) 10:05, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: bitter melon, like most other "vegetables", is botanically a fruit, used as a vegetable.103.99.150.190 (talk) 06:53, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bitter Melon For Diabetes 

message: The beginning of this article tends to accumulate local names and the lead becomes a long list of names that do little to explain what the food actually is. I propose that unless there is clear evidence of use by native English speakers these additional local names be placed in the "Local names" section, which I have now linked in the lead. I have kept the only two referenced local names, goya and karavella. Although karavella could do with a reference to actual usage by English speakers. Computermacgyver (talk) 21:26, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article lead and local names 

message: As a frequent reader and never an editor of wiki articles, I am puzzled by a comment I sometimes find at the start of an article to the effect that "This article needs editing because it relies too heavily on primary sources".
Since when have primary sources become undesirable? I thought they were considered superior to secondary sources?
Please enlighten me.
71.218.238.99 (talk) 02:47, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you seeing that tag mostly on articles or sections with a medical focus? There a few things going on here. You are correct that in journalism (and historical research), primary sources are superior to secondary. The primary source notice on this article is on a medicine related section. In medicine, primary sources are inferior to secondary. A single study that found that an extract of Momordica charantia inhibits cancer cells in a test tube just isn't very valuable. A meta-study which summarized the results of 50 other studies (looking at the effects of the extract in multiple human cancer cell lines in vitro, living rats and mice, etc.) would be considered a secondary source in medicine, and is much more useful. WP:MEDRS goes into much more detail about primary and secondary sources for medical topics. Aside from medical topics, the more general guidance on primary sources on Wikipedia is WP:PRIMARY. Plantdrew (talk) 03:32, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  what is wrong with using primary sources? 

message: Where is the name bitter melon popularly used? In China? At least in India (where it's supposed to have originated) the vegetable is known by its local name in each language (generally derived from the Sanskrit karela), or exclusively as bitter gourd in English. The term bitter melon comes as a real surprise to me, so I'd love to know how popular it is in other countries as opposed to bitter gourd.
:That's a good question. The local name (non-English) is most likely most commonly used just about everywhere. Google reports 615k hits for bitter gourd and 563k for bitter melon. A Google image search for "bitter melon"+tea shows mostly products with Vietnamese or Chinese text on them. Images of "bitter melon"+tea are still predominantly Vietnamese or Chinese, but also include some Indian languages. Personally, I'd call it "bitter gourd". Melon usually implies a sweet fruit in English. Plantdrew (talk) 20:48, 23 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming 

message: The article distinguishes Okinawa from "mainland Japan." Japan is a set of islands and has no continental territory. What does this mean? I presume, from "Japan proper" (meaning that Okinawa is not "really" a Japanese island), but of course the government of Japan would argue that this is not correct. Maybe change to "the rest of Japan"?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by IAmNitpicking (talk • contribs) 14:53, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mainland Japan? 

message: Both articles refer to the same plant, one is just a specific usage of the plant. The Bitter melon tea article also does not appear to have any sources as well, and may not meet WP:GNG. AtlasDuane (talk) 15:14, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Klbrain (talk) 15:18, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Bitter melon tea]] 

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message: Does bitter mean same as acidic? 
:Acid is sour. Bitter tastes are caused by various chemicals (e. g. caffeine). See Taste. IAmNitpicking (talk) 12:57, 2 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which molecule causes the bitter taste? Some acid? 

message: Does the Native American Cherokee nation really grow the African cucurbit Momordica? IAmNitpicking (talk) 14:11, 26 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess over a year is enough time. Given the lack of source, and the fact that web searches for cherokee and bitter melon find zero articles connecting them, other than this one, I am going to remove the translation. I wonder what that really means in the Cherokee language. IAmNitpicking (talk) 11:55, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cherokee?