Talk:Dogs in warfare

message: There are two topicics in wikapedia dead dogs.
ded dog
and
die Dogs
Wardog is shorter. 
I suggest we either merge Wardog with War Dogs, or just delete it entirely.
Jak722 18:36, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Urgent! 

message: I recently came through and changed the wording to change the tone.  Several places made references to the reader and the write (we, us).  I removed these instances and rewrite portions of the article to be more formal.  Seeing as to the lack of debate on this page, I will be removing the formal tone tag.  If anyone disagrees, feel free to post here and replace the tag.   
The other tag, lack of sources cited, is my fault, as I wrote this article a few years ago and simple put my sources at the bottom and didn't actually cite the sources.  Almost all of the information needed is in those pages, and I still don't fully get the how to cite sources, so anyone should feel free to fix that.  I will be attempting to fix it later, as I have finals right now so time is really not a luxury. Stop Me Now! 14:38, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tone Tag 

message: I've seen military working dogs referred to with a rank in front of their name. Does anyone have any info about how or why they are given rank?Dragsterhund (talk) 21:10, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rank? 

message: It seems there is hardly any information about dogs in modern times in the military. The article briefly states that dogs were used during the Vietnam War. I am placing a link to a news article that discusses dogs in Iraq and Afghanistan. Feel free to cite from this article. HotOne121 02:57, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern Use 

message: It seems to me that the section mentioning Vietnam should be expanded to mention what happened to the dogs at the end of the war.  This is a travesty that deserves to be documented.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.117.178.204 (talk) 22:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They became dinner?  I know this is a month old IP, so I'm not really expecting a response, but it seems like an odd cliffhanger to hint at a travesty but not describe it.  Should we be familiar with the fate of military working dogs in Vietnam? Protonk (talk) 07:13, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems the dogs were generally euthanized or else left behind, which is presumably what the anonymous user is alluding to. This would warrant a mention, but a preliminary Googling didn't bring up any usable sources.--Fullobeans (talk) 09:30, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

text: As a Marine officer in Vietnam, my job was to run supply convoys to fire bases. The convoys would consist of vehicles from many different units, so we had an assembly point where the vehicles were to meet by an appointed time, after which the convoy departed. After dispatching vehicles from my own Motor Transport Battalion to supply points, I would proceed to the assembly area with my gun trucks and command vehicles to await the arrival of the cargo vehicles for positioning within the convoy. One constant problem was the Vietnamese vendors who gathered to sell items (anything, even women) to the truck drivers. Some of them were most definitely Viet Cong agents seeking information of any type, including cargo, destination, etc. Keeping them away was a full time task as they would immediately appear again on the other side of the assembly area if they were scared off by my armed Marines. But when a Marine dog handler and his dog would arrive, the Vietnamese would rapidly disappear. I was told that this fear of dogs was due to a religious belief that had something to do with dog bites, but I can't remember what it was, and I'm not sure it was even true. I took the opportunity to speak with a number of dog handlers as I was fascinated by the program, because I love dogs. They often told me of their concerns as to what would happen to the dogs when they left country. They told stories of other dogs turned over to Vietnamese troops that were killed and eaten or just starved as the Vietnamese ate the U.S.-provided dog food themselves. Most "pet dogs" in Vietnam existed by foraging. To illustrate this, and I really hesitate writing this here, aside from dead bodies my grossest experience in Viet Nam occurred on one convoy while passing through a village. I observed a young Vietnamese boy squatting and defecating. As the steaming feces came out of his body on that cold morning, a dog had his head under the boy's bottom and was eating the feces as fast as they appeared. Thomas R. Fasulo (talk) 15:04, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dog usage in Vietnam 

message: I'm not generally biased against trivia sections, but I really fail to see how this one benefits the article. Nothing in it seems relevant enough to work into the text, so unless someone wants to totally revamp this section, I vote to replace it with a sentence such as, "War dogs have become somewhat iconic, and appear occasionally in war-themed fiction and video games." Fullobeans (talk) 02:59, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: In fiction/In gaming

message: I'm not sure how Hammurabi could have used war dogs in 210BC, since he had been dead for 1500 years.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.81.140.191 (talk) 18:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical examples 

message: Great article, but the earlier portions on war dog history could really use some pics.  There have to be some old engravings, tapestries, paintings, which show war dogs in use.  I thought I'd seen a classic one of the conquistadors, but it turns out it's actually an execution of Panamanians executed by Balboa for homosexuality.  Not quite the same as military usage.  If anyone recalls seeing online a good image of war dogs being used by Romans, Irish, Normans, etc. that'd be awesome. MatthewVanitas (talk) 04:17, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: In the reference to Marathon, the picture in question is The Battle of Marathon by Panaenus. http://poieinkaiprattein.org/uploads/images/marathon/Marathon%20battle%20sketch%202.jpg best i could find. gmipTalk13:14, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs more historical images 

message: In either connotation, "destroyed" implies either that the animals were purely equipment(the military standpoint) and being destroyed like an airplane or tank, or were killed violently or in some way that would connect negative emotions to the killings. Either one of these meanings violates the NPOV. 
"Killed" would be a more neutral term to refer to ending the life of a living creature(anyone wanna argue that dogs aren't living?) in any fashion, be it through physical killing, starvation, eaten by Vietnamese, and would also include "humane" killings through euthanasia.
"Euthanized" would be an alternate term but I understand that many of the dogs were killed in way other than euthanasia.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Attwell (talk • contribs) 19:57, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "killed" or "euthanized" is a more neutral word than "destroyed" 

message: Traditionally, these dogs were either Euthanized or abandoned after their military operation was terminated. In 2000, President Bill Clinton signed a law that allowed these dogs to be adopted.
:: By "abandoned", does it mean they are released to become feral or stray dogs? Not a nice thing to do to either the dogs or the ecosystems, and certainly not the kind of retirement I would expect for "war heroes."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.87.19.210 (talk) 19:14, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abandoned? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

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See for example.
Holland85 (talk) 02:42, 9 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Military Dog Awarded 

message: I would think it more logical and intuitive, if the search term "war dogs" would redirect to the disambiguation page of the same term, and not directly to this specific article here and only from here to the disambiguation page.
Any thoughts? In case of no conflicting regulations or objections, I'd be glad if an editor could modify the redirect. Thanks. Langenforth (talk) 16:45, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect from "War Dogs" 

message: So, which other Armies still have them?
Germany still does, I do know for sure, for example, Denmark I heard of.
Please, add an international paragraph to the article, someone. 2003:C0:DF46:2E00:94EC:3872:51A0:1B51 (talk) 16:44, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Countries??