Talk:Kerli

message: Not the creator, or the person who put the  on the page, but isn't being signed to a major label on the list of WP:BIO "notable musician" critera ? Taking part in the Melodifestivalen and finishing 7th also seems like a claim of notability. Surely not a speedy candidate. Angus McLellan  (Talk) 18:32, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Clearly she is notable and the tag should never have been placed on the page. I am removing it, as she is signed to a major label and has appeared at major international venues - per WP:Music guidelines. ExRat 04:49, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Kerli 01.jpg

message: If so we should pu that in there  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.202.92.68 (talk) 16:34, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does she live in L.A. now? 

message: Could someone help to find reliable sources for the information in the "Untitled Second Album" section, please?
The Night Crawler 39 (talk) 10:01, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Second Album Sources

message: I've noticed some edits in the history changing the name of this back and forth, but doing so improperly. Should this article be at Kerli?—Kww(talk) 02:55, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as no-one will indicate someone or something else notable called Kerli, indeed it should. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 07:22, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name 

message: I'm not sure if this is justification to added Kerli to an LGBT category by in this episode of her Kyte show someone says they'd "go gay" for her. To this, Kerli replies (at the 1:30 mark) "I like girls, too ... I've just never ... really been in love with a girl ... but if i will be then I'll be with a girl". She continues to say "God didn't put us on earth to be with the opposite sex, God put us on earth to be happy"  ~ ς ح д r خ є ~ 16:40, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds too vague for a conclusive statement. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 19:36, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sexuality 

message: . It sounds like Kerli says e is pronounced like egg and the r is spoken with an alveolar trill. I've figured it's  as that seems to be the common slang. ~ ς ح д r خ є ~ 04:45, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Where she says "Well actually it's Kerli," that's the "correct" pronunciation, she just usually pronounces it "wrong" to make it easier for Americans. ×××BrightBlackHeaven(talk)××× 07:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: My interpretation of it was she said "well actually it's ke/r/li" and that she was happy that Italians can roll the 'r'. ~ ς ح д r خ є ~ 07:56, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: I think it's fine either way but WP:MOSDATES says "Edit warring over optional styles (such as 14 February and February 14) is unacceptable. If an article has been stable in a given style, it should not be converted without a style-independent reason." –Scarce ✉ 15:18, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I had reverted to European style seeing as she's Estonian, but I suppose if she lives in Los Angeles, it would be equally OK to use American dates. I don't have a problem with it either way.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 18:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates 

message: She says here she dropped out of school at 16: http://www.formspring.me/bubblegoth/q/213539103
The article says 14, and for some reason I can't watch the video from which that information was taken from, so I don't know what it says exactly, but it may be misinformed or misinterpreted. ×××BrightBlackHeaven(talk)××× 09:42, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leaving school 

message: See here: Eurolaul 2004 on IMDB and here: Eurolaul 2001 on IMDB.
Plus: http://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurolaul_2004 Kerli's song was 9th in row, placed 2nd.
Plus I personally remember watching Eurolaul in both 2001 and 2004, and when she was on there -- in 2004 -- then everyone knew her from Fizz Superstar so it was after that.
The AllMusic page is simply wrong, I guess.
Also, I just noticed Fizz Superstar happened in 2002, not 2001.  (2001 did seem too early, but I didn't notice before.)
The article in Estonian Wikipedia says she was in Melodifestivalen in 2006, I guess I'll go fix that.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by BrightBlackHeaven (talk • contribs) 08:41, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Participation in Eurolaul 

message: I notice the reason given for the removal of this section is that other artists' articles don't have similar sections. I did some digging and discovered that other artists do have similar sections, but they are usually on the artist's discography page rather than the artist's main article. (example, example) I think we should find a way to incorporate this section into Kerli's discography page. Thatotherperson (talk) 22:31, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it. ►Scarce◄ 00:22, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Thatotherperson (talk) 03:27, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of "Songs in Other Media" section 

message: The Awards and Nominations table lists Walking on Air as having won an award called "Estonian Music Awards". Just a guess, but that seems to be the name of the award show, not a specific award. Does anyone know of an award that Walking on Air won at the Estonian Music Awards? Thatotherperson (talk) 01:55, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no idea. On Aggressive's website, it just says "Winner 2008 Estonian Music Awards". I guess we should leave it as is until the specific award can be confirmed. ►Scarce◄ 23:05, 18 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Here is at least one Estonian music award that she won. And not in just one category. It is the award given by the Estonian Association of the Phonogram Producers. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 14:45, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting. Perhaps the "Estonian Music Awards" should be removed and these awards should take its place? Because they appear to be different things. ►Scarce◄ 18:27, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

text: The official name of the award is "Eesti muusikaauhinnad", which translates exactly to "Estonian Music Awards". I think, the categories should be specified, though. This is an identical list of winners and nominations on a site specially dedicated to the awards.--Jaan Pärn (talk) 11:47, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a link to translate the page into English, for those who need it. As near as I can tell, she won Pop Artist of the Year, Female Artist of the Year, and Music Video of the Year (for "Walking on Air"), and Love is Dead was nominated for Album of the Year. – Thatotherperson (talk) 03:40, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The discussion kind of died, so I went ahead and updated the article to include the awards I listed above. – Thatotherperson (talk) 06:17, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards and Nominations 

message: After reading through the recent edits, it's clear we need a talk page discussion to settle once and for all which genres should be listed in the infobox. As of this writing, the current page lists Pop, electropop, and alternative rock. Any issues with this? Personally, I think we could be a little more specific, as pop music and alternative rock are both very broad terms. Any suggestions for more specific subgenres we could list?
Thatotherperson (talk) 07:06, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "Electropop" is good because a lot of the newer music ("Army of Love" and forward) is electropop, "cyber goth" and gothic rock are a good for love is good to describe Love Is Dead and influences in her newer material. Maybe we could replace "pop" with dance-pop? Seeing that "Army of Love" is actually charting on Billboard's Hot Dance Club Songs chart, it makes sense. Maybe we could squeeze pop rock in there? It describes Love Is Dead as well as "Supergirl". "Electropop, dance-pop, pop rock, alternative rock" looks okay to me. However, "BubbleGoth" is a portmanteau of bubblegum pop and gothic rock. I think "Army of Love" and "Bubblegum" could be defined as bubblegum pop. ►Scarce◄ 17:26, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I definitely think dance pop is a worthy inclusion. Not so sure about pop rock. I also worry that if we list a bunch of pop genres and nothing else but the vague term "alternative rock" it's going to make her sound a lot more mainstream than she actually is. I'd like to find some subgenres that better describe her more underground stuff. I know "gothic rock" has been in and out of the infobox several times over the years, but I'm not familiar enough with gothic rock to know if that label is accurate.Thatotherperson (talk) 23:38, 30 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Allmusic: Pop/Rock genre, with styles listed as "Alternative Pop/Rock" and "Alternative/Indie Rock"Rhapsody: Dance Pop, Pop, and Alt/Punk (link)Purevolume: Alternative and Pop, which I still think is way too vague. (link)If anyone has another music site with other genres listed, please link it here.Thatotherperson (talk) 12:47, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Personally I would favor including dance-pop. Creepshow, Strange Boy, and Army of Love are all very much dance-pop, and I get the feeling there will be a lot more on the second album. Thatotherperson (talk/contribs) 21:13, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That's ok. I agree about including "dance-pop" since "Army of Love" is number-four on the Dance/Club Play Songs chart now, but I propose another discussion after the release of the second album and reviews of it. Lucas RdS (talk) 23:56, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, so here's an updated official proposal: we go with Pop, alternative rock, electropop, dance-pop and then revisit the issue when the new album comes out (or anytime someone wants to change it). Any objections?Thatotherperson (talk/contribs) 03:36, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No objections from me. I'm ok with it. Lucas RdS (talk) 18:43, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

text: Four days with no objections; that's good enough for me. I will update the page accordingly, with a note saying not to change it without consulting the talk page first.Thatotherperson (talk/contribs) 08:42, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  March 2011 

message: Demi Lovato's new single "Skyscraper" is co-written by Kerli (I think). --Lena Cops (talk) 19:16, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is. I've added it to this section of her discography page. I don't know if there's a good place to mention it on the main page.Thatotherperson (talk/contribs) 19:47, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kerli Co-Wrote Demi's New Song! 

message: This article says "Army of Love" is the lead single from her second album, but Kerli has said multiple times that Army of Love is not a single for her new album, and will not be included on it. - ErickAutumn (talk) 00:51, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Source? Thatotherperson (talk/contribs) 07:36, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Army of Love 

message: it should obviously be called rule not occupation--Shokioto22 (talk) 22:17, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: See Occupation of the Baltic states. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 22:38, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  soviet rule and not occupation 

message: Just putting this here for reference. Kerli didn't co-write "Ghost of You" by Selena Gomez & the Scene. See the song's entry on BMI as well as Kerli's reply to this question on Formspring where she says "I didn't write the ghost of you". Scarce2 (talk) 02:37, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ghost of You