Talk:Mark Levin/Archive 1

message: It needs to be pared down to five.  Will Beback did a very good edit, which was reverted with what I think is a specious argument (I've written more about it below).  The rest of the quotes need to go to Wikiquote, in compliance with Wikipedia standards.  Eleemosynary 18:46, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Quote Section 

message: "Granted, much of this has become a discussion board. What makes this guy such a hot topic is the way he uses the public airwaves to segregate one group from another with innuendo's, half truths and 
manipulation (Opinion) He feeds off the listener who agree with any all of his wacko (Opinion) thoughts. This is who he is. He rides on his past as a lwyer and a former part of the administation but really appears as a jealous little man (Name Calling) who wishes he could fit back into Reagan uniform (Opinion). I would suggest reading Slates review of his book. No childish name calling - just a review of a book most people are buying to say they belong to his club. Most people who bought this book are more interested in placing a NASCAR #8 on the window of there Tahoe (Offensive Stereotyping, Name Calling). The (gargage) (Opinion) publisher is the same publisher who churned out the Swift Boat vets book."
COME ON! Your opinions of mark levin are of no relevance in an Encyclopedia! It is hilarious, from the perspective of someone with no political axe to grind, to watch the hypocrisy of partisan politics. Everyone thinks that their guys are good and the others are bad. Everyone thinks that they are right and of course, the other side is just wrong, as though its a FACT. It isn't a fact! Any time you refer to someone's work as 'garbage', its an opinion, no matter who it is or how obviously deploreable you find their work. Yes, those are your opinions, no matter how true you think them to be. I don't beleive that you cannot grasp this. How many different ways are there to drill this into your head? Conservatives think that Sean Hannity is just a straight talker, while Michael Moore is a lier spinning 'half truths'. Liberals think the opposite. "Oh, but [whichever group you subscribe to] is right! Its a fact!"
People, if you want to discuss your opinions about Mark Levin there are PLENTY of venues to do this. Discussion boards, websites, chat rooms, blogs, etc. Heck, you could even make your own anti mark levin page. This is not one of those venues!
By the way, nothing that you have said is original or different. It speaks so clearly to your immaturity that you cannot help but rattle off the same old talking points every time you run into a figure you disagree with. These are boilerplate criticisms. OH, he's an obnoxious conservative who is in bed with big oil. Yawn.
Get real. When have you ever opened an encyclopedia, turned to an entry about a controversial figure, and read opinions and character attacks? This is not a forum for cheap political banter.
Can we please stick to the facts, from now on, both in the Talk Pages, and the actual content pages ... For all political characters, left and right.
First, Levine is not a "political character" he is a radio personality, and this is not political banter -do you remember free speech. in comes in many forms, not just the ones you think are "appropriate.  Second, I think the above post was referring to Levines publisher as a "garage" publisher as in a publisher who works out of there garage.  Finally, Who cares what you think ya big dope! User: 69.37.174.3
:Thanks for going on record with this, "69.37.174.3"  It will be much easier to have you blocked for vandalism now.  Have a great day! --Eleemosynary 18:38, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  END OF STORY 

message: I can't believe this gratingly loud-mouthed, transparently strawman-arguing, derivative demagogue has merited an article in Wikipedia.  Sigh.  Wasted Time R 23:51, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opinions 

message: I've removed several clearly POV parts of the article that seemed clear PR.  Eleemosynary 08:13, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia is not a Press Release, nor a Program Guide 

message: ... in the hopes that folks can work things out here instead of reverting. · Katefan0(scribble)/poll 17:30, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you,Katefan. Eleemosynary 18:39, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected 

message: needs to go, as it does not appear to adhere to Wikipedia copyright standards.  If an official press release photo is available (or any photo that follows Wiki standards), that should replace it. Eleemosynary 05:15, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Photo 

message: I'm not sure if all editors here also track the Mark Levin page at Wikiquote.  Many of the "Levin-isms" that originally were included on this page and have been added to by multiple users over the last year, were moved to Wikiquote by an Admin some months ago (ostensibly to avoid clutter on the Wikipedia page).
Certain quotations that I believe were made by Rush Limbaugh have been repeatedly attributed to Mark Levin on this page by one anonymous editor whose edit history displays a great deal of overlap with one of this pages more vocal editors.  As it is impossible to source  material heard on the radio (short of obtaining transcripts), the dispute here appears to be at a stalemate.
I invite others who have a knowledge of Levin's program to go to the article and talk page discussion at Wikiquote to review and weigh in on this.
Levin says a lot of things that are over the line and that I would disagree with (particularly calling people traitors or commies), however as a regular listener to the show, I find it hard to believe he'd ever wish death upon a public figure or make a millitary slur against someone, no matter how much he disagrees with them.  I've never heard these quotes from Levin and strongly dispute them.  I notice thaat in the past, certain Rush or Hannity quotes were also wrongly attributed to Levin, so perhaps this is a case of misattribution?  Please visit the other page and weigh in.  As Levin is a living person, I believe Wikipedia requires a greater duty of care to ensure accuracy with respect to controversial material or attributed quotes.213.86.213.196 08:21, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dispute over possible misattributed quotations for Levin at Qikiquote