Talk:Ceremonial ship launching

message: This article has a lot of good information, but not very much in the way of references. I've found a bunch of good sources in books and online, and I'd like to start polishing up the article. That will include adding new material from the newly-found sources, and maybe also removing some of the existing unreferenced material (some sections are pretty verbose, IMHO). One thing I want to do is to archive all the over-two-years-old material on this talk page. If there are any comments or objections to this proposed course of action, please post them here. Lou Sander (talk) 15:17, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polishing up this article 

message: The technical material about launching methods is not really connected to the subject of this article, which is "ceremonial." If there's no objection, I'm going to find a better place for it, and move it there. Maybe it would be the article on Shipbuilding. Lou Sander (talk) 13:34, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. The article mixes two separate things and alludes to a third. While titled "Ceremonial ship launching" it is weak on ceremonies through time and across cultures and heavy on the mechanics of getting a hull into the water. The two have not always even been at the same time. In some times and places ships were afloat some time before the ceremony. Then it points to ship naming conventions in "See also" and that is associated, but certainly not absolutely connected. That, in naval terms, is usually a government policy. It certainly is in the U.S. That policy guides a name that is perhaps chosen years before the ceremony that confers the name on a hull. I would say a division needs to take place to give good coverage of each subject and also address perhaps widely separate interests of readers and editors. Many readers will have a social interest in the ceremony and little in the engineering and mechanics. Others will have a reverse interest and not care a bit about such things as sponsors and bottle breaking or blood sacrifices. Palmeira (talk) 11:24, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Inappropriate content

message: Regarding this. Of course, the content is sourced. However, the reference is rather weak, using language which implies a lot of uncertainty, for example "appears to show spectators getting sprayed as the ship lurched into Lake Michigan." and "but one other person reportedly suffered a broken leg." As such, although the incident is verifiable and true, I do not think it is significant or even worth of mention, per WP:NOTNEWS. As we see, the sources didn't cover the incident because it happened (i.e. they didn't deem it significant) - they instead covered the video becoming viral one whole year after the event. 
It is not to say that this kind of incident doesn't happen, just that it is nothing worthy of mention - to make a comparison with another method of transportation, planes occasionally collide with each other on the ground (ex.  ). Of course, it is not routine or something one would expect to happen on every (or even, any) flight, but even the most serious incidents () rarely get more than the typical WP:109PAPERS coverage and get forgotten - it is significant that the last of these, despite causing a fire, barely gets a passing mention - and this is counting it actually got investigated by the Canadian TSB, making it much more serious than the other ones. Given that this incident didn't even get that far and seems rather minor (especially so when compared with the other reported incidents, where the ships did more than just "cause a wave where 1 person reportedly had a broken leg"), I do not see why we should mention it - even with a source. Sorry for the wall of text, there was a lot to be said 198.84.253.202 (talk) 15:10, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Ceremonial ship launching]] 

message: This article states: "The sponsor will also receive a token of the launching. The bottle is wrapped in a yarn koozie before it is used in the ceremony, and this is mounted on a plaque (see image) which is given to them afterwards." Most christening bottles, at least for USN ships built in the last century, are cased in a small wooden presentation box with sometimes the top is hinged or it can also be a sliding panel. There typically is a small engraved plaque, often silver, with the ship's, shipyard's, and sponsor's names along with the christening date affixed to the box's top. Yes, sometimes the bottle has been mounted on a plaque but either these don't survive or simply are extremely rare. The bottle wrapping can be "yarn" (more like twine) or wire, but will more likely be interwoven red, white, and blue ribbon strips or even an elaborate metal shell, often with pierced decorations like stars, and a screw bottom to allow the champagne bottle to be inserted. These metal bottle sleeves often have a small engraved plaque repeating the information on the box's plaque. Modern warships, at least in the U.S., are often assembled in drydocks usually from sections built elsewhere at the shipyard and moved into position by overhead cranes. The "launch" involves nothing more than flooding the drydock when the ship's hull is completed with a separate christening ceremony held at some later date - the main exception are the Freedom-class ships built at Marinette Marine Shipyard in Wisconsin which use the side launch method (the last of these, the future USS Cleveland, was launched on 15 April 2023). This is why several of the photos/videos in this article are of ships of this class being launched.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:801:380:63E0:1CE9:C72F:EEE9:21BC (talk) 23:03, 22 April 2023 (UTC)
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