Talk:Regnum Christi

message: If Maciel isn't defending himself in any way, as the very last paragraph states, then why do the paragraphs directly above state basically that he is absolutely denying any wrongdoing? Isn't that in itself wrongdoing? This is not passing judgment, this is just straightening out Maciel's and his worshippers' double talk. Double talk and manipulation of truth and innocent souls for 60 years from this founder (and hence his followers), is why there is all this controversy to begin with. If one's total denial of public allegations isn't called defending oneself, you will also have to alter your encyclopedic definitions of Defense and Denial.
The only way to not confuse people is to draw the obvious conclusion that the members of the Legion and Regnum are totally consumed in defending their founder's innocence, when the heads of the universal church they profess to obey (heads who never spoken thus against any other founder of so "successful" an order and movement in recent memory) have officially and publicly concluded otherwise.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.245.14.162 (talk) July 27, 2007
Hi. Just out of curiosity: why are you so mad at RC? If you had any bad experiences or friendships that have turned out wrong with RC members, I feel sorry for you, but is it right to criticize so strongly the founder? I mean, if I had a fight with an American, would I criticize Lincon or Washington?
I think that what the RC means by "not defending himself" is that they never came up with witnesses to deny the accusations, they never spent time in figuring out a defense plan.  But obviously at the question "is it true" they replied the truth: "no". So I guess you are exaggerating the "defense and denial" issue.
Thus said, I am not a meber of RC, I just know some people who are, and I think they are very normal people, and my friends.
Take care, God bless. SP.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.205.149.252 (talk) 10:30, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradictory defense of founder

message: After removing all the non public domain quotes, very little is left in the article.  One thing to note is the criticism of the youth clubs for recruitment.  It really is not abnormal for any kind of club to have a primary purpose of getting new members.  Nothing has been said about what is done with the new members.  ECYD in spanish basically means Education, Culture and Sports.  In english it stands for Education, Culture and Youth Development.  I won't add or change anything in the article for now, instead leaving time for others to flesh out the article.
Radixhound 18:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Public Domain Issues

message: It has come to my understanding that RC takes over privet schools in order to convert the attending children and their families? If this is true, can someone who has experience in this feild please explain the prosses? Am I on the wrong foot? If so, please give further details concerning RC's involment in schools across the country! LILLYofTHEsouth 15:50, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taking Over Schools 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jews_for_jesus
The Jackal God 21:15, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Example of an article on a highly controversial organization 

message: I removed the tag at the top of this article that labeled it as possibly .  I have no personal opinion on the controversies described in this article, and what I see here seems reasonably well-written.  Criticism of RC is confined to a section that is clearly labeled "criticism".  Critical viewpoints are not given as fact or as the opinion of Wikipedia, but rather as the opinion of the critics.  Citations to reliable sources seem reasonably strong.  
If anyone objects to this analysis or to my removal of the tag, please let me know.  I welcome any discussion, and perhaps could help mediate.  --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 03:53, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After further thought, it seemed to me that there might be an WP:Undue weight problem with the length of the "Criticism" section and the extended quotations contained within it.  I have condensed these quotes per WP:QUOTE.  My intent was to preserve the important content of the quotes (except for one quote of Fr. Maciel which was unsourced and did not seem relevant), but I welcome any input on that.  --BlueMoonlet (t/c) 17:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Unbalanced" tag 

message: Someone annonymously radically changed this page entering a whole bunch of uncited information that is for the most part provably false. I am removing it all, if this annonymous individual wants to re-present some of it with objective documentation, please do so. You can read my profile, I am a Legionary but I admit all our real and documented difficulties. Yours in Christ, Br Matthew, LC 16:27, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Encyclopedic Quality 

message: I just re-ordered the page more logically. The ethos seems to be more important as a first item and history later. Tell me if you think I am wrong. MPSchneiderLC 13:46, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  re-organization 

message: When Marcial Maciel was removed from ministry, the decree said acts against celebacy, IT SAID NOTHNG ABOUT ABUSE OF MINORS. If you want to add that find a source that is beyond a speculation. He abused minors, but the Holy See didn't mention what acts in the decree and they may have had evidence regarding his "girlfriends" but not child abuse.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MPSchneiderLC (talk • contribs) 09:31, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  MM - Removal from minstry 

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