Talk:The Stig

message: It was getting too long, so I filed away the old stuff. Kinda bringing up the current discussion to the top.--293.xx.xxx.xx (talk) 12:55, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Archive 3

message: Hi, I don't normally comment or obviously edit on this site.  I don't know if I'm posting this to the right place but I did notice a discrepancy. In the "Michael Schumacher 'revealed'" section it notes on 20 June 2009 it notes the Ferrari FXX did a time of 1:10.7.  Later in "The Second White Stig (Current Stig)" the article states the new stig does a time of 1:15.1 and says it is "the fastest time of any car around the track" in an Ariel Atom.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.103.6.48 (talk) 04:48, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "...The fastest time..." comment refers to the fastest time around the track by a qualified vehicle.  There have been several faster laps - the Harrier and Renault F1 for example - but all (including the FXX) did not meet Top Gears track criteria.   a_man_alone (talk) 09:49, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Stig time discrepency

message: "All that can be seen from the gap between his helmet and jumpsuit is that he is a white male with dark hair." I dont see how this "gap" shows the Stig is male, can someone explain why?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.168.43.250 (talk) 12:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Identity 

message: The Stig revealed as racing driver Ben Collins
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/7975346/Top-Gear-court-case-The-Stig-revealed-as-racing-driver-Ben-Collins.html
84.43.31.235 (talk) 13:23, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 84.43.31.235, 1 September 2010 

message: ben collins has not been confirmed as the stig only speculation!
Sav609 (talk) 15:15, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: * It was confirmed by a high-court judge? How much more proof do you need? -- Crazysane (T/C\D) 15:22, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Sav609, 2 September 2010 

message: Link to read book , a few pages in "First published in July 2002" "This paperback edition published in September 2003". And the text about 'The Stig' has been added just before the end of the book (obvious really, in chronological terms). There's no mention of any 'falling out', or disagreement with the BBC. There is clear proof there that McCarthy published the book 1 epsiode prior to being killed. 
There are conflicting sources on why he was killed off, so I propose a simple chronology detailing the book's publication followed by his 'death' without further comment, given that the BBC never said why he left (well they wouldn't would they), and it was not reported on or notable at the time.
Sumbuddi (talk) 22:42, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The first edition of McCarthy's book was published about three months before the first episode of TG was broadcast and makes no mention of his being The Stig.  I suspect the Stigstuff was added for subsequent editions for marketing reasons. Mr Larrington (talk) 13:50, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Perry McCarthy

message: Typo needs correction in Replacement Stig Speculation section: 'Appollo' --> 'Apollo'
137.222.114.238 (talk) 19:42, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. MickMacNee (talk) 21:00, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Appollo [sic]

message: Clarkson apparently came forward and said that Ben Collins has been sacked to a local media outlet called Witney TV. Don't know if it can be completely verified, but it was big enough for ABC to cover it. 
Related:  http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2010/09/08/3005874.htm Shocuda (talk) 12:18, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Same thing here: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/tv/3129084/TOP-Gears-Jeremy-Clarkson-confirms-Stig-aka-Ben-Collins-is-sacked.html Halsteadk (talk) 13:57, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: End of the White Stig

message: * 
—Sladen (talk) 00:15, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you proposing this is included? Sounds like gutter press rumours to fill column inches to me. I doubt anyone from the BBC would tell them, are they implying that confidentiality will not be part of the new role, and the Star thinks the new series starts later this year, but TG Magazine says next year (I think I know who to believe). The most telling part of that website is the link that says "More 'news' here" - i.e. the ironic quotes around 'news'. Halsteadk (talk) 13:34, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pay cut 

message: The link won't work anymore.
(87.173.122.35 (talk) 23:44, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikiquote Link 

message: Any chance we could wait for some reliably sourced facts before buying into Top Gear hype? Call me a cynic, but the court case generated a lot of publicity for Top Gear and I suspect sold a lot of copies of the book and a lot of Stig toys for Christmas. The Stig is still featured in Top Gear, present or not, there will almost certainly be a "new" Stig, and by the nature of the part we won't know whether or not it's still Ben Collins whatever colour it is... -- Ian Dalziel (talk) 00:07, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Which facts are you disputing? --Bdoserror (talk) 18:39, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That the Stig is no longer part of Top Gear, and that Ben Collins will no longer be the Stig. May be so, but we have no reliable source. --Ian Dalziel (talk) 19:08, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crystal Balls 

message: A large number of cite errors appear in the references section. The issue is with ref names that aren't used elsewhere in the text, but I can't find the edit where it all went wrong, nor can I work out where the refs have all gone. —Half Price 20:41, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: DDTGFan came through late last month and did a long series of revisions to the article over the course of several days, leaving the string of broken refs and links in his/her wake.  I left a message on his/her talk page requesting he/she come back through and clean up the mess, but so far, no response.  He/she has not edited since completing the revision.   At this point, I think we've got two options:  someone with the patience of Job needs to follow and fix the mess, or we revert back to the version before all the edits were made.  Either way, we need to open a discussion on the appropriate noticeboard regarding his/her failure to fix the broken links and lack of response to the messages on his/her talk page.  Drmargi (talk) 01:22, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we've past the point where a huge revert to the pre-DDTGFAN era is possible. —Half Price 19:02, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:   Well, if that's the case, someone's going to have to clear it up, or revert is just what I'm going to do.  It can't stay as it is.  Drmargi (talk) 19:37, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed! And it wasn't as hard as we thought. Basically, the article uses a rarely-seen reference system where the  template has the refs listed inside it, and so if you remove a  from the article, the ref lies dormant inside the  template. So all I had to do was remove the dormant refs. —Half Price 20:35, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well done, you!  It would have been a shame to revert all that revision -- DDTG really did some nice cutting of the fat from the article.  Drmargi (talk) 21:58, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major reference issue 

message: User:122.107.66.163 has persistently attempted to add a discussion of current rumors and speculation regarding the identity of the newest Stig, entirely unsourced.  While such speculation is bound to arise, it neither rises to the level of encyclopedic content, nor is reliably sourced, and thus has no place here.  Drmargi (talk) 08:35, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speculation re: identity of The Stig 

message: The information cited regarding uniform is blatantly wrong.
Pictorial and merchant information supplied with an edit clarifies this.
The gloves are Tech 1 ZX and have been for more than 5 years, while the Tech 1 T shoes are the same. Kart shoes were long gone as they aren't fireproof. And Stig has never even worn Tech 1 Z gloves at all. It's just incorrect! See below evidence. Or rather, click edit as it isn't showing!
http://www.theracersshop.com/alpinestars/gloves/index.html
http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7276/12x01.jpg
http://www.kartingwarehouse.com/m1/Alpinestars/p23/Alpinestars---Tech-1-T-Shoes/product_info.html
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/07/10/video-jay-leno-confirms-i-top-gear-i-appearance/
125.63.142.115 (talk) 00:54, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uniform 

message: The pic should also be changed as it is a promotional/show Stig and not the actual character/driver. The uniform including the famed helmet is also clearly incorrect. Surely a genuine photo can be sourced as that is not the genuine character and therefore, misleading.
125.63.142.115 (talk) 00:56, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: So you're saying unless the Stig himself says 'This is what I wear', it cannot be cited? Hmmm, that seems like pretty specious reasoning.
So on a page about rare blue-feathered bald eagles, you couldn't cite one in flight unless there was a sign with an arrow next to it saying 'caution, rare blue-feathered bald eagles in flight'?
How blasphemous.
What's more, there ARE websites out there stating 'This is what the Stig wears' and many of them get it wrong. You wouldn't cite them on that basis considering the information is blantantly incorrect, or would you?
The current information, whoever added it, is correct. Should just leave it there.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.66.163 (talk) 01:42, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uniform Bantering 

message: Wasn't there also a 'vegetarian stig' or something like that, which was like the Stig but his costume was green, and he had lots of various solar panels and stuff, if i remember right it was just the one, on his helmet? He was killed off i think--TangoTizerWolfstone (talk) 22:15, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vegetarian stig 

message: Due to The Stig's many cousins, shouldn't they listed under 'cousins' for 'family'.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boushenheiser (talk • contribs) 15:44, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cousins 

message: I just viewed an episode of "Top gear" Wherein the stig took off his helmet. The man behind the helmet is allegedly "Michael Schumacher."
Perhaps we could update the the current stig lineup?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jpsousa4 (talk • contribs) 00:36, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No - it was a one-off episode joke.  Covered elsewhere.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 06:23, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WP:OBVIOUS I've reinserted the sentence into the WP:LEAD that states the involvement of Michael Schumacher as efforts to give misdirection over the identities.  This is there to (a) establish notability, and (b) to allay the repeated insertions of "OMG I Discovered That M.S. Is The Stig!!!".  These seem to have cropped up again only after that sentence was removed.  I have added an inline <-- comment --> stating exactly why the sentence is there, to try and discourage its removal again.  The sentence was carefully inserted and explained two years ago with the same reasons.  —Sladen (talk) 08:09, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea. It will cut the number of people who do this down considerably (in an ideal world it would stop them completely but...)! Britmax (talk) 08:14, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Also added a comment to the actual listing of people who've played T' Stig.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 08:31, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Michael Schumacher 

message: "In series 16, debuting in December 2010, Collins was replaced by a second White Stig, whose identity is UK's Formula racer Michael Schumacher as revealed on the first episode of BBC Top Gear's season 13."
how can you confirm that Stig's identity is Michael Schumacher then deny it in every single following paragraph?
I remember reading this article before and it didn't have this statement, obviously one of your editors had edited it after watching one or two Top Gear episodes without reading the rest of the article.
please take it off.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.91.20.223 (talk) 04:12, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Done by another editor - but as this page is not protected, you could have also done it yourself:  Wikipedia - The Encyclopedia anybody can edit.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 10:27, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  misleading information in first paragraph  

message: Please explain here why "blitzed" is an appropriate term for an encyclopaedia, rather then reverting without any edit summary.
Thanks,  Chaheel Riens (talk) 21:49, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Blitzed" 

message: Would this be a valid Encyclopedic list?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.66.246.169 (talk) 17:56, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it would not. Such things are covered on our sister site Wikiquote, and even then an exhaustive list may not pass their notability guidelines.Aw16 (talk) 10:13, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  List Of All Introductions Series 6-Present 

message: This article is not Australian, even though it refers to an Australian character.  In this case WP:TIES clearly states "An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation should use the (formal, not colloquial) English of that nation."
Indeed this is exactly what TIES is for - so that terms with a specific meaning in one country or dialect do not get confused when they mean something very different elsewhere.  In this case "thong" has very different connotations in the two different countries, so it's important to ensure that there is no confusion over what is meant.  As this article adheres to BR-ENG, that includes the British term for the footwear.
To refer to the sandals as "thongs" to a British-English audience would mean the underwear - Thong (clothing) and not a type of footwear.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 18:39, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The same is true in American English, and given the original Stig will also appear on the new Top Gear America (per its latest promo, anyway), a more international approach is needed.  Thong has a dual meaning in the U.S., and the more common association is with underwear, whereas the footwear are flip-flops.  ----Dr.Margi ✉ 20:28, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australian Stig & Thongs 

message: I think the article is kind of misleading in suggesting the Stig is ALWAYS played by Collins, or whatever racing driver they had employed at the time. I am sure the pro driver did the lap times and things like that, but I doubt they had him waste his time riding a bus across London, or doing standing shots for the camera when any average man in the suit would be able to do the job just as well. They probably had a crew member put on the suit for the unskilled shots, since all he as to do is stand and walk and be silent. And then there are the specialty shots, like the "Stig" jumping a snowmobile off the ski ramp in Lillehammer. While it's possible that Collins (or whoever) was both a talented racing driver and a pro snowmachine trick rider, it seems more likely that they just dressed a local snowmachiner up in the Stig suit for that particular shot. I seem to recall some other scenes that would have involved the same thing. So it's not quite so simple as saying "The Stig was played by Collins". The FUNDAMENTAL Stig, yes, but that doesn't mean he was always the one in the suit for every single shot.
Idumea47b (talk) 04:42, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Various actors