Talk:Eastern Wu

message: What's the difference between the "State of Wu" and "Kingdom of Wu"? --Jiang 06:58, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)

message: As Sun Jian said in Dynasty Warriors 4, "I vow that one day, the Tiger of Jiang Dong, will bring peace back to the land." The preformance of Wu soldiers and generals can not be questioned but it can be challenged. At the time being of their struggle, the army of Wu with Sun Jian and Sun Ce had to retake back their own lands from regional leaders who invaded their land. During those times, Sun Jian died in battle and Sun Ce died after a wound reopens, but they managed to recruite or convince other officers to join their ranks. Looking at Wu, they did not have the one thing that they need most. The Wu kingdom had less man power, but they did fulfill the requirements of the others. They had generals of many talent and the strategy to combat any smaller enemy troops. This is where the alliance at Chi Bi with Liu that they were able to recover as well as gain more soldiers after Zhou Yu lead the South Land to victory. The Kingdom and State of Wu shows me and maybe others that they had many talented officers and generals yet they did not have enough man power to repel an overwheling force like Cao Cao and the kingdom of Wei.--Zhang Liao 16:07, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Kingdom and State of Wu 

message: I've removed the material (again) because it doesn't pertain to Eastern Wu; it belongs in, if anywhere, Wu (state), and if someone puts it there I won't object.  (Wu Taibo was the legendary founder of the State of Wu; Eastern Wu was centuries later with no connection to his line.)  --Nlu 06:55, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Material about Wu Taibo and Japan 

message: I think its time for unprotection, cao wei and shu han have been unprotected and all three became proteted on the same day. Who agrees, come on unprotect this page, or at least partially protect it. Teniii 12:38, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unprotected. If you get into a dispute again, please take it to the talk page instead of engaging in an edit war. Thanks. Sr13 (T|C) 08:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Un-Protection... 

message: How many "important" individuals do you think should be listed for a state that lasted 58 years?  When we get into lists like this, it really should be limited to the truly important individuals.  --Nlu (talk) 05:17, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would agree.  Those people fundamental to the founding and survival of Sun WU.  We shouldn't include every single person of hsitorical significance as that would take forever and be massive in size.  People important to certain battles or events should be mentioned in their own articles or in the articles regarding the event.  For example, Huang Gai's fire attack at the Battle of Chibi. Gamer Junkie 05:51, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha, okay, heres what I will do than i will edit the list to what i think are the more important people meaning i will add some and delets some from the current list, if you disagree fell free to intrude, but I think I got it under control. Hardworker111 10:39, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

text: When you add so many attributes to a person -- including her name -- how much of the person remains real?  In reality, she married Liu Bei in a political marriage and soon returned to her brother's camp; that's it.  She had no actual impact on either Eastern Wu or Shu Han otherwise.  Everything else was invented, literally, by the Romance.  It's like claiming that the charater of Jack Stanton in Primary Colors (modelled after Bill Clinton) "wasn't fictional, he just had a different name historically."  --Nlu (talk) 19:51, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose you can look at it taht way, and I'm not going to argue with you, I'll leave her off, she wasn't really that important like you said anyway. Hardworker111 19:55, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd imagine the two Zhangs, Zhao and Hong, deserve some consideration as notable figures. Sun Chen (Sun Lin) was also a notable figure, but in the wrong kind of way. Similarly, Taishi Ci's impact with Wu was fairly miniscule; he was a reknowned man, but didn't necessarily have a big impact outside keeping Liu Pan at bay. It was also Sun Ce who truly had a hand in building the foundation of Wu; Sun Jian was a subordinate of Yuan Shu's and didn't really help build Wu at all (outside fathering Ce). This list, much like the one on the Shu page, happens to coincide with the Dynasty Warriors cast. Redmac54 (talk) 13:41, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of important individuals