Talk:Province

message: There is now a :Category:Provinces containing subcategories and articles in the form "Provinces of X". Proposal: Individual provinces should be placed in the subcategories. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 13:03, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [Untitled]

message: I have excised from the text the following:
:The Latin word provincia, which apparently  was  derived from pro ("in front") and vincia ("linked"), originally was a general term in Roman law for a Magistrate or other public official's jurisdiction and competence, as restricted by his constitutional and/or ad hoc mandate in nature (fiscal, military, legislative, etc.) and/or territorially. This even predated the existence of a Roman 'empire' (not as a form of state opposed to a republic, for Rome always remained formally republican in law, but as the result of imposing its authority on territory conquered or otherwise submitted, where the inhabitants are submitted to a different legal regime).
:This notion has survived in modern expressions -not in formal Law- where someone claims authority ("... is my province") or shift responsability ("it is not my province").
:However, the application to the territorial circonscription of a governor became so predominant, that this actually also became the legal term for such a territory. In this sense it was also adopted in many later states and modern languages, and even by analogy in the Church (see ecclesiastical province), modelling its administration largely on the Roman empire.
Although not terribly written, it drifts drastically off topic to the point of complete irrelevance. Considering that it is written quite authoritively, one would expect references - otherwise, it appears as unsubstantiated dribble. 
Also, I am alone in sensing something decidedly WHEELER-esque about this edit?--Cyberjunkie 14:40, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits by [[User:193.191.210.2]] excised from text

message: I think Provinces of Chile and Peru should be removed under the Current, since they are called Regions and the are already listed under the Regions Page. --200.55.121.224 21:51, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The listing redirects to the Regions of Chile and of Peru. Their provinces  are divisions of the regions, so the redirect is useful as it stands. --Wetman 23:18, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Remove Chile and Peru

message: The following statement is not remotely true: " Prior to the French Revolution, the country consisted of the region of Île-de-France—the personal fiefdom of the king—and the royal provinces, which were once governed by their own feudal lords. " Anyone want to allign it with real history? --Wetman 05:04, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Not remotely

message: A "cleanup" tag was applied by User:Dustinasby with the quip "Too dirty".
The following note has been left at the User's Talkpage: "Your cleanup tag has been reverted at Province. You have made no contributions to that article, which has been hammered out by many Wikipedians working towards consensus. Please don't use tags for personal comedy." --Wetman 18:08, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The following was placed on User:Wetman's talk page. "I take wikipedia seriously and find it offensive that you assume I would add to an article for comedic purposes. Take a look at the article. The ideas in the first paragraph are repeated in section 1. The introduction section has no direction and little organization. There are spelling and grammar errors (which I will take the time to fix). The 1st and 6th paragraphs in section 1 is repedative and need to be joined in some agreeable fashion. Do not take offense. I understand that people have projects that they put their time and effort into, and thus become close to. However, regardless of the effort that has been put into this article, it does need improvement. If I had purchased an encyclopedia with entries like this I would want my money back. Remember, the reason for placing a notice is not to insult the contributors, but to aid the processes by bringing in more contributers. Please control your emotions for the advancement of knowlege. I will place this conversation on the discussion page of province where it belongs.--Dustin Asby 19:26, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I need to add a follow-up note after having read that my edit was interpreted as comedy due to my summary. Yes, my attempt was to be witty in my summary because there wasn't much summarizing needed. I didn't realise that attempt would offend current contributers. Please accept my appologies, so we can move beyond and work to improve articles.--Dustin Asby 19:47, 16 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Clean-up tags are not generally appended to articles like this. They are used for devastatingly bad articles that are utterly incoherent, POV, and without semblance of format. While your concerns are legitimate, I feel the tag is un-necessary. By the way, we have a retort for situations such as this: . :)--Cyberjunkie | Talk 05:50, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I was unaware. I don't have time to get involved in another project and I don't want to make drastic changes to the article because I know that there are others that are involved with it who better understand the reasons for the inclusion of the content concerned. I would be more inclined to be bold had I the time to justify my boldness. I will remove the tag, now that I better understand its purpose.--Dustin Asby 18:28, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup tag

message: Does anyone know where the etymology for 'province' on this page came from?  I know that the true etymology is disputed but I've never seen that particular etymology.--Hraefen 20:41, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology

message: The Provinces of Ireland article's first paragraph says that “Northern Ireland is […] a province of the United Kingdom”. I guess this is not to be taken as the official name for a type of UK subdivision (that is, NI as one of several Provinces of the UK), is it? Wikipeditor 00:01, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Northern Ireland 

message: Xinjiang is technically an autonomous region rather than a province under Chinese legistration. If no one objects, I will remove the comment that Xinjiang is currently the largest province in the world.
Changeup
:Rather than delete text, why not make a note that the province Xinjiang is technically an "autonomous region". All provinces have some degree of self-government and self-identity, or they're not provinces, are they?. Or just remove any reference to "largest province in the world". What best serves the reader? --Wetman 17:10, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Is Xinjiang a province?

message: The article mentions the French usage of "en province", but doesn't mention the equivalent term "the provinces" as used in England to mean "everywhere except London".
Its usage is now somewhat deprecated as it is considered patronising and London-centric, but it should still be included as it gave rise to the derogatory meaning of "provincial" (as in provincial attitudes, provincial mindset, etc.) 217.155.20.163 16:31, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Province versus "The Provinces" 

message: There has been too little discussion on provinces in unitary state. Provinces are usually the official subdivision for unitary states. In most federal states, the state(s) that make up the federal state are partially sovereign and are govern by a federal constitution. Only Canada describes it states as provinces.
I just added some discussion to inform readers that provincial subdivision do occur in unitary states like France and China. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Visik (talk • contribs) 01:34, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Province in Federal state and Unitary state

message: The proper definition of "Province" is an "accumilation of States".
Please refer back to definition of "States".
Apendix: A; 1-5,
Article 1. A state is a large suburb consisting of cities and counties.
Article 2. Due to disambiguousity, a large suburb is commonly refered to as a state.
Article 3. In England a state is an oversized suburb which is not to be confused with a english province which is an accumilation of states.
Article 4. A country is a country, which is not a state, or province, but the combined entity thereof.
Article 5. For example: The United States of America is a Province and/or country of States and/or Provinces.
Hope this helps!!!! 70.181.250.164 (talk) 23:52, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proper definition of "Province" is an accumilation of states. 

message: Removed some geological content, as this topic has its own article at Geologic province. Seems like most information is already present there, but here's the text for safekeeping/checking by experts:
removed: "In geology, the term "province" refers to a specific physiogeographic area that comprises a grouping of like bathymetric or former bathymetric elements (now sedimentary strata above water) whose features are in obvious contrast to the surrounding regions, or other "provinces." The term usually refers to sections or regions of a craton recognized within a given time-stratigraphy, i.e., recognized within a major division of time within a geologic period." GermanJoe (talk) 16:16, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geology content - see article [[Geological province]] 

message: There should be a mention of Ecclesiastical Provinces and a link to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecclesiastical_province . 94.30.84.71 (talk) 10:07, 17 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ecclesiastical Provinces