Talk:James Bond/Archive 1

message: I think we should make it more clear of the distinction between the real/official Bond films/actors and the spoofs & unofficial versions. For example, David Niven & Casino Royale are spoofs, you can't possibly compare these with the true Bond films. Grunners 20:10, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Film and Actor info

message: Is there a page on Bond villains ? Jay 17:30, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Bond villains

message: "... the successful 1990s revival with Pierce Brosnan in the lead role has increasingly turned the series into self-parody."
Can someone provide examples of self-parody ? Jay 17:30, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: This question prompted me to start an article on self-parody.  However, I didn't include The Torrents of Spring because reviews on the Web suggested that it was a parody of Sherwood Anderson's book Dark Laughter.  (And what about Turgenev?)  —JerryFriedman 22:24, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Self-parody

message: Shouldn't the paragraph at the bottom about the ornothologist be on a seperate page? On this page there should be a link explaining that he was the basis for the Bond name. Grunners
:Not necessary in this case, as there is only a little information on the ornithologist, and the ornithologist is primarily famous only as the namesake of the fictional spy. --Lowellian 20:10, May 17, 2004 (UTC)
I rewrote the article on the birder and provided a disambiguation at the top of this page.  It's at James Bond (ornithologist).  I believe the section here could now be deleted.  PedanticallySpeaking 17:12, Aug 30, 2004 (UTC) 
:Ok, I condensed the section and dropped it into Misc Trivia. K1Bond007 18:13, 30 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Ornothologist

message: I removed Q's name from the link to Q, because the Q article deals with John Cleese Q whose name is clearly not Major Boothroyd. He's much better known as Q. DJ Clayworth 16:26, 19 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Q

message: In my last edit I removed a part in the bond bits section that talked about how the number 007 came to be. I removed it for two reasons. 1) Because I didn't feel it was a "Bond Bit". Bond bits, as you can see from what the others describe are things that are always in a Bond movie. Bond saying "Bond, James Bond".. ordering a martini "Shaken not Stirred". That sort of thing. The history of how the number came to be is more part of 007's history or overview. 2) Because it was my long understanding that the number came from Riyard Kiplings stories about a train numbered "007". This is actually even stated in the article under James Bond Ornithologist, although it is my belief that this should be moved elsewhere in the article. If there are multiple stories of how the number came to be, by all means replace what I removed and add the Riyard Kipling part in the the Overview section. K1Bond007 20:51, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a section called Miscellaneous Bond Trivia to hold this type of information. I have readded that story on the origins of the number as one possibility, and moved your story into the same section plus a couple of other bits and pieces that seemed to be irrelevant to their actual sections. (Ben W Bell 09:43, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  This sounds good to me. K1Bond007 16:13, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: We should not have contradictory information here. Personally I would like to see references given for things like origins of numbers, especially when it's something as obscure as this. DJ Clayworth 13:24, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: The problem with that is that there are so many contradictory stories on the origin of the number. I think we should have all the stories since no one but Fleming himself knows the truth. My one came from the official tour of Higham Park where Ian Fleming spent a lot of his time and did a lot of writing, and the 007 was the number of the coach from the 1940s right up until about 4 years ago and does indeed pass by in easy view of the main house. (Ben W Bell 13:45, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Bond Bits

message: Should the "Bond Vehicles" section of the article be moved to it's own page ("List of James Bond vehicles" ??) where information on them can be expanded and some that aren't listed can be added? Just curious, what you guys think. K1Bond007 21:05, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Bond Vehicles

message: Shouldn't there be some brief info about the diffrences between the books and the movies?
: I actually disagree. All of information between the books and the movies should be on the seperate movie/book articles. I think most people know that books adapted for film are never (or perhaps rarely) the same. K1Bond007 23:33, Dec 4, 2004 (UTC)
:: Just to add to the above, all the articles based on the individual Fleming Bond novels have been overhauled to include discussions of both the novels and the film versions. There isn't room to do that here as the main article is already well past the 32Kb limit set by Wikipedia. 23skidoo 18:28, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Books/Movie differences