Talk:Manila Peninsula siege

message: This is turning point if Philippine History. With bated breath, our nation awaits more spiritual events  complementing this, in view of the CURSE that envelopes our Judiciary and corrupt officials. This article and related ones must be further cleaned up and the links corrected and added.
--Florentino floro (talk) 06:40, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's on live local TV. Internet news sites won't be updating that fast. --Howard the Duck 09:16, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

message: how 'bout this?  †Bloodpack† 10:14, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  insert wikinews box? 

message: I want to be more technical about the title. This happened in the Philippines and should not be considered an international matter like great mutinies: Mutiny is the act of conspiracy among members of a group of similarly-situated individuals (typically members of the military; or the crew of any ship, even if they are civilians) to openly oppose, change or overthrow an existing authority and therefore, disobey the rule of law. The term is commonly used for a rebellion among members of the military against their superior officer(s), turning the strongest arm of the law into a danger for the legal order. During the Age of Discovery, mutiny particularly meant open rebellion against a ship’s captain. This occurred, for example, during Magellan’s journey, resulting in the killing of one mutineer, the execution of another and the marooning of two others, and on Henry Hudson’s Discovery, resulting in Hudson and others being set adrift in a boat.
As a lawyer and Judge (Florentino V. Floro, I state that our 1932 Revised Penal Code, copied from Spanish codes provides for felonies. And Mutiny refers only to naval uprisings or standoffs. The proper or legal crime is Rebellion or Sedition punished under the Revised Penal Code. Just listen to the wise words of Kidney transplant patient who now recovers DOJ Sec. Raul Gonzalez (Philippines). He ordered the filing not of MUTINY charges but of sedition or rebellion.
So, I MOVE that the title be changed to MANILA PENINSULA REBELLION or SEDITION, not standoff since this word is not a legal term. We are dealing here with a legal not media article.
just sayin
--Florentino floro (talk) 07:31, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It'll be interesting if common practice calls this "situation" a "rebellion". I still want to have an opinion on the original author of this article. Other media/press sources either call it a coup, standoff (as I've explained earlier it's "unencyclopediable"), siege (not really that prevalent) and uprising. --Howard the Duck 07:39, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

text: No -- I'm not saying the article creator gets to decide what would be article title, it's just common courtesy. Nevertheless, I'd say to stick to the current title until a predominant name surfaces. It's senseless to move this article everywhere.  And it doesn't have to be correct but the most predominant, it's like Mandy Moore, in the eyes of the law, she's a certain "Amanda Leigh Moore" but for you and me she's just "Mandy Moore". --Howard the Duck 08:11, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rebellion 

message: Both Australia and Britain had advised their nationals to avoid large gatherings and take precautions in the weekend. Australia, UK caution nationals in Manila.
 Singapore has advised any Singaporeans in Manila to monitor any changes regarding the mutiny and to check in with the embassy. Singapore travelers to Philippines advised to take precaution.
Will these be okay. Ominae (talk) 18:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes go ahead and add it. --Howard the Duck 07:49, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Question on putting following info

message: Under the heading "Occupation of the Manila Peninsula" there's a random <noinclude> just sitting there. I've checked the edit box for it, trying to figure out to remove it, but it's not there. Anyone else think they know how to remove it? --Ye Olde Luke 06:31, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the indication that the template's going to be changed. Ominae (talk) 07:49, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
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message: As of now (December 2), President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo is holding a one million reward to whoever can locate/catch one of the escaped Magdalo members (or any other). Check the (December 2) issue of the Inquirer newspaper. Moogle 12 Good discussion sub-section. Behind this, is Atty. Trixie Angeles news report I added, where she was very afraid of the whereabouts of Faeldon, when, forthwith, we are astonished why a reward is set up, so who is who or what is really happening on Faeldon and this lady lawyer? just sayin, so hope this Reward things should be watched and closely added edited here for more current developments. Puzzling.
--Florentino floro 07:51, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  P1,000,000 Reward 

message: The statement that the government prosecutors have given Capt. Faeldon and four other Magdalos until December 18 to submit their affidavits does not seem to have been mentioned in the footnote attached to justify it, (footnote no. 42)  Could the person who uploaded this please attach the ccorrect footnote, if any?
Wingedprophecy (talk) 11:25, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Accuracy check

message: Is anyone bold enough to summarize and cleanup the overly long "Aftermath" section? --Howard the Duck 06:29, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aftermath section 

message: As time passed by the most accepted name for this event is "Manila Pen[insula] siege" considering the siege per se was uh... the most exciting. Does anyone have other suggestions? –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 18:49, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If no one opposes until December 31 I'd move this to Manila Peninsula siege. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 10:33, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll be moving this soon. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 18:25, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: On second thought, I'd wait for a some more time before making the move. –HTD (ITN: Where no updates but is stickied happens.) 19:17, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
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