Talk:Wilhelm (Xenosaga)

message: The way Wilhelm's name is currently written in Japanese, the romanji and pronunciation would be: "Viruherumu". The two dashes (I do not recall what they are called) after the "U" character shift the pronunciation to a "V" sound. This needs to be corrected. 26 August 2007
: Is it really important? This case is best made to the fan community, and the consensus reflected in the article once it has been reached. (extremists aside) Tcaudilllg 23:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Wilhelm" misspelled in Japanese

message: This Article was originally placed here, Wilhelm, untill Axezz did a terrible job of "moving" this article and making the old page a disambiguation.  The history of this article up to 26/04/2005 is still located on the Wilhelm page. -- Revolver Ocelot 23:22, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: For the record, this has been fixed, probably long ago (see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wilhelm_%28Xenosaga%29&action=history&year=2005 ) – Fayenatic London 12:09, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving Mistake 

message: This article was first created by Revolver Ocelot, and contributed to by Walton Simons, JarlaxleArtemis, and Ahalsall  before the page got moved. -- Revolver Ocelot 23:22, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Author Credits 

message: The second to last paragraph in Wilhelm's entry of Episode III's in-game database: It is unsure whether the current cycle is the tenth recurrence, or even the hundredth, but the distortions created by the repetition gradually changed people's consciousness. Ultimately, mankind rejected his power, choosing to progress to the future by their own will. — Galaeron Nihmedu 02:25, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Last paragraph in Wilhelm's Episode III in-game database entry: While his methods differed from Shion's, Wilhelm undoubtedly sought to save the world just the same. Or perhaps what he truly wanted was a revolution in mankind's consciousness, brought about by the cyclical recurrence of time.
That he succeeded in his plan to force the evolution of the consciousness of mankind was confirmed in the Official Complete Guide.  The Eternal Recurrence was just a means to an end.  PhoenixStrike 02:45, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

text: That guide seems mighty helpful. I've got to get that for myself. Perhaps what I added can be changed from Every time Zarathustra was used to reset time, distortions were made. In the current recurrence, the distortions were great enough for Wilhelm's plans to use Zarathustra to fail. He is surprised by this, as demonstrated by his statement, "Humans, mere humans are rejecting me? Impossible. It is unthinkable." to Every time Zarathustra was used to reset time, distortions were made. In the current recurrence, the distortions were great enough for humankind's consciousnesses to change, causing them to reject Wilhelm's decision to reset time. He is surprised by this, as demonstrated by his statement, "Humans, mere humans are rejecting me? Impossible. It is unthinkable." Clearly, this was something Wilhelm did not expect; why else would he act so surprised? And if his surprise was all just an act, what would be the point of acting surprised if mankind's will's were already set on rejecting him? — Galaeron Nihmedu 03:09, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For Wilhelm, everything is like a drama, he was just playing his part.  Wilhelm's entry does need updating, but I've also been waiting for more information from the Perfect Guide (an updated version of the Complete Guide) to be made available.  As for the current entry, if it needs to be changed now it would be better to just mention the distortions leading to the change rather than what Wilhelm thinks, because that's very flakey territory. PhoenixStrike 03:21, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distortions in spacetime made by Zarathustra 

message: Removed. The Xenogears/Xenosaga link was removed, and none of the rest of the article is clearly original research. Some of the other accusations seem irrelevant to me, also. Instead of lurking in the shadows, let the people who leveled these accusations show their respective faces in the open. Tcaudilllg 23:29, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Research Accusation 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Wilhelm.jpg

message: If Seph is notable, then so is Wilhelm. This game is a cult classic and in time Wilhelm will probably be about as notable as any other major RPG protagonist. The only reason the game isnt' popular is because it's artistic. I'm taking off the notability tag.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tcaudilllg (talk • contribs) 23:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  On Notability.... 

message: I believe this article has been restored to an acceptable state, given the information we now have. I'm leaving the copy edit tag and taking off the fiction-guideline tag. May submit for review, too.Tcaudilllg 23:52, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fiction Guidelines...