Talk:Hippocrates

message: "The Hippocratic work On the Physician recommends that physicians always be well-kempt, honest, calm, understanding, and serious."
In The Genuine Works of Hippocrates Francis Adams determined that he and other experts viewed On the Physician to be the work of someone other than Hippocrates. Too many people believe that what they read in wikipedia is factual. The statement should be removed because Hippocrates never made that recommendation. --Creatapy2019 (talk) 00:29, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: There are two reasons why your objection here is not relevant. Firstly, the article never claims that On the Physician was written by Hippocrates himself. Instead it only calls it a "Hippocratic work," which is correct because On the Physician is part of the Hippocratic Corpus. Secondly, there is actually no agreement that Hippocrates himself wrote any of the works in the Hippocratic Corpus, but there is a consensus that they were at least written by his students, later followers, or other physicians within his circle who were influenced by him. In other words, the texts of the Hippocratic Corpus are relevant here in the same way that the dialogues of Plato and Xenophon are relevant to the article "Socrates"—not because Socrates wrote them, but because they were written by his students who knew his thoughts. —Katolophyromai (talk) 00:52, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  statement/assertion should be removed. 

message: Reading this article as part of WP:URFA/2020, I notice a few points where it may not meet the current standards of wikipedia's Featured Articles.  In particular:
* There are some uncited claims, including three paragraphs which do not end in a citation.
* There are some quotes which need some more precise references: where does "to eat when you are sick, is to feed your sickness" come from?  What is the source of the translation for the blockquote from On the Sacred Disease?
* Many claims are sourced to extremely dated references – are the eight claims supported by Jones 1868 still the consensus of modern scholarship, for instance?  How about the four claims cited to the 1911 Encyclopedia Britannica?
* I am not convinced of the reliability of some sources.  For instance:
** "L'influence de la médecine hippocratique sur la Guerre du Péloponnèse de Thucydide" – this appears to be a Masters' thesis, which is not generally considered to be the kind of "high-quality reliable source" asked for by WP:WIAFA (cf. WP:SCHOLARSHIP)
** Hakim Chishti, The Traditional Healers Handbook, published by Healing Arts Press – what makes this a reliable source?
** Rahman, Hakim Syed Zillur (1966), "Buqrat Aur Uski Tasaneef", Tibbia College Magazine. – what makes this a reliable source?
** Starr, Michelle (18 December 2017), "Ancient Poo Is The First-Ever Confirmation Hippocrates Was Right About Parasites", Science Alert – is ScienceAlert a reliable source?  
* Compared to the many dated or dubious citations, there are a fair few works that haven't been referenced yet seem like they would be natural fits for the article:
** Cantor (2002) Reinventing Hippocrates
** Langholf (1992) Medical Theories in Hippocrates
** Smith (1979) The Hippocratic Tradition
** Temkin (1991) Hippocrates in a World of Pagans and Christians (this is mentioned as Further Reading!)
** Van der Eijk (2000) Hippocrates in Context
I have done a small amount of copyediting and started to get the reference formatting in order, but ancient medicine is really not my area, so hopefully someone with more expertise or interest will be able to pick up on the content points... Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 22:00, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Add to the sources that should be widely used in this article: Jouanna (1999) Hippocrates (full bibliographical ref in the article; Jacques Jouanna is considered the no. 1 expert on Hippocrates, even before Wesley Smith). I won't be working on this, but I have some familiarity with the subject, and I will say that this article should not be a FA in its current state. ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 00:34, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely.  Another relevant and reasonably recent work that is included in the bibliography, but cited only once, is Pinault (1992) Hippocratic Lives and Legends... Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 18:06, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Doesn't look like there's been any interest in nearly two weeks; adding to WP:FARGIVEN. Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 11:31, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  URFA/2020