Talk:Cara Cunningham/Archive 2

message: I think you should add Chris Crocker's myspace fansite. its www.myspace.com/itschriscrockerfans  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thesmoothone (talk • contribs) 19:52, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *You got proof that it's official and endorsed by Chris? If not, no. --  ALLSTAR  ECHO 22:22, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  chris crocker fansite 

message: I think it should. If Wikipedia's trying to be fully neutral, they should have some of his negative aspects displayed as well. This'll give people a bit of a better view of the "real" Chris, a Britney Spears addict, for lack of a better term.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksEj2p0q7qY
:Who says it's a "negative aspect"?  To my mind, it's not better or worse than anything else he's posted.  It's his shtick.  If the media hasn't made a fuss over this, there's nothing we can cite.  Ichormosquito 06:34, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, we've already dealt with this as simply Crocker pushing buttons/doing outlandish things to get attention. Unless it's picked up as important by the mainstream press it's not on the radar. Benjiboi 23:26, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Well feel free to repost if it actually does get mainstream media coverage, it could but the link is to another YouTuber attempting a petition and they even cite him being incestuous which has previously been shown to be false so I have doubt as to how far it will go. We'll see though, no one really saw him getting all the views he did get so anyting could happen. Benjiboi 09:38, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Lol. "Tune everyone out but me" What a trooper. Benjiboi 16:14, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should his 9/11 Video be under Selected Videography? 

message: Why is the neutrality template there?  Problems along those lines already seem to have been fixed by the editor who added the template.  Ichormosquito 08:53, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality? 

message: Apparently he's from Southern California, not the South. PatrickJ83 16:42, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This may be true but has to be referenced. Benjiboi 00:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not from the South 

message: For three sentences, anyway.  Nifty.  Ichormosquito 21:17, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Love it. It also speaks to how the nature of immediacy with a new generation of editors compared to the "old guard" who've learned that making decisions slowly and deliberately is not a bad idea and sometimes articles are deleted in error. Benjiboi 23:36, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  We're all in the the [[LA Times]]! 

message: We should consider removing the video Chris Crocker - Britney, this is for you from "Selected videography" as it does not meet notability criteria for web content; for, it hasn't been cited to have received independent media attention (like the rest of the article).  It is popular, but a popular video, by itself, is sadly not sufficient enough to warrant inclusion-- unless it demonstrated wide name recognition; otherwise it could be viewed as spam. --slakr\ talk / 23:15, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Prior discussion have noted that the only videos included are ones that have over a million views and/or coverage by reliable sources. Removing this (referenced) content sems to suggest an interest in positioning Crocker as only notable for his "Leave Britney Alone" video which is false, this video does not exist in a vacumn, it is his most popular one out of dozens and should be shown in that light. Benjiboi 23:29, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

text: *Leave it. --  ALLSTAR  ECHO 05:42, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Selected videography removal 

message: There is a response (of sorts) from Britney Spears regarding 'Chris Crocker's video at http://www.usmagazine.com/britney_and_chris.
Worth including here? --Wee Charlie 15:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Not worth including. It's a "pal" of Britney that supposedly said it. Without proof Britney said it, it's got no home on this article. --  ALLSTAR  ECHO 17:44, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Britney's Reaction 

message: Hello, I just thought I'd suggest that they should be some controversy about September 11, 2001 on this article about Chris Crocker and that someone is trying to boycott his Youtube videos and his TV show once he gets it. You can find more information on it here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MvwdgBu0xUE&mode=related&search=
DemonicSailormoon 19:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: should be some controversy? If there's not any, why should there be some in the article? 100,000 views of that video isn't anything compared to the millions of views of the NOTABLE videos. I think we've discussed this before anyway and the consensus was not to include it until it becomes NOTABLE, as in cited, referenced sourced by news media. --  ALLSTAR  ECHO 20:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  September 11 controversy? 

message: Hopefully by now, all the pro-gay media sent to this site to write a senseless article and lend hot air to a notableless lunatic has moved on. So should Wikipedia. The opening paragraph of notable articles mention that notability is distinct from fame or popularity. The subject of the article fails even the test of "fame" or "popularity" guidelines since there are more than 50 youtube videos with more views. It is even less notable than popular. Even more damning is the declaration on the same page containing the aforementioned wikipedia guidelines that notability is not temporary. Media attention has died down already. Before adding a tag for delete, hopefully, we can all add some input. Gold Nitrate 05:39, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: By any objective standard, he passes WP:BIO with flying colors.  Happy, fluttering colors.  Ichormosquito 07:52, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Bitter much? Your user page says, "I am a Wikipedia user and editor who is committed to bringing a neutral point of view to articles on this site." I guess that doesn't apply to discussion pages, huh? --  ALLSTAR  ECHO 07:55, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I'm still waiting for any pro-gay media to be sent here. Do we have a service like that? I fuly expect the national gay press to write something about him but I haven't seen a lot - however, in fairness, they almost never pull up in Google news search. I think your assertions are flawed on almost every count except that there are videos that have been viewed more. But even a quick look a those top videos will show this his most notable one rose to the top much faster than all the rest. Also, in looking at his collected works that one video accounts for nearly a quarter of the millions of views he's gotten thus far. I do agree with you about notability issues and if any of those other video creators gets as much mainstream attention as Crocker has combined with a contract for a reality show I would be happy to support them as well. Benjiboi 17:41, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed BLP vio (yes, it applies to talk pages too) by 24.247.148.187.  Someguy1221 20:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Who is Brian Peppers? --  ALLSTAR  ECHO 20:38, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I can tell, he's one of the bigger can of worms on Wikipedia.  If you have an interest in Wiki-history, you might want to check out these:  His article's activity log:   His article's last hearing at AfD:  His article's hearing at DRV, after the page protection Jimbo placed on it wore off:  .  After going through these, I think it's safe to say the article would never be able to meet WP:BIO.  Even if it were a borderline case, it would be a sure WP:BLP violation.  Ichormosquito 20:58, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ya, I was asking sarcasticly. ;) --  ALLSTAR  ECHO 21:23, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops.  Well, I didn't know who he was.  What a richer person I am, now!  :D  Ichormosquito 21:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ya, the potty mouth comment I was being sarcastic to was removed by an admin, so if you missed it, it should be in the history. I really had actually never heard of Brian Pepper but asked who he was as in, compared to Chris Crocker.. or as they say in the UK, oo's he when he's having tea? In other words, no more special. --  ALLSTAR  ECHO 22:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I think it's calmed down enough to delete this hulking piece of junk 

message: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2gID5bpXAU
Since there's debate as to whether or not he's even worth talking about or if he's authentic I thought I'd leave the question of his supposed incest for the wikipedia editors, or whether you even think it's wiki-worthy.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.7.248.195 (talk) 15:37, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He's on record saying that many of his videos are acts and categorizes his YouTube channel under "Art". There's no telling what's real and what's not with him. We should probably wait on the incest stuff until the news media mentions it.  Ichormosquito 15:41, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: From the Stranger article: "We talk about his boyfriends ("At least I got to use him as a prop for a while," he says of a recent one, who pretended to be Chris's brother in a video spoof on gay-brother incest)."--Proper tea is theft 15:55, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There we have it, then.  Ichormosquito 16:08, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I really wouldn't take his word at face value for anything, but that's me being cautious. I'm not saying I 100% believe it was his brother, but I also am not quick to believe everything he says either. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 16:38, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't think the link has gone private as much as it seems like Crocker removed the video so it's now only available from others reposting it which is a little problematic but I think it's workable. This, I think, would be a nice addition for a criticism or detractor's section which the article could use. I was hoping for more print stories that are critical of him/his work so we could quote criticism and avoid WP:OR but I think there's enough out there to start something. Benjiboi 23:50, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  incestuous 

message: According to TMZ.com  Chris Crocker got sued for 1 million $.
Can anyone confirm that? Gawanti 08:59, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it seems to be true. Onch is a jewelry designer who apparently paid for  plane ticket and in return contracted him for 2+ days of work for free. It doesn't quite add up right so I'm hoping some more sources dig through it all. Could it (gasp) actually be a publicity stunt for all involved? Benjiboi 09:15, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Jewelry Company Sues Chris Crocker for Fraud; "Leave Britney Alone" Heads West has photo of who I believe is Onch and deets on the deal. Background press release re: Celebrity Models for Onch Movement Jewelry Line Exclusive Onch Movement Presents Chris Crocker at Rage in LA (YouTube vid from Onch); Mystery vid of Crocker posted by Onch called "Chris Crocker wearing Onch Movement Pink Razor - Gay Army" posted Sept 19 with 9,506 views. After looking at it all seems Onch needed Crocker more but that's for others to write up (they might note that the closest celeb Onch has seems to be a Paris Hilton (kinda-)look-alike. Benjiboi 09:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone went ahead and started it so I used the above refs to fill in the details. Benjiboi 21:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chris Crocker sued? 

message: The article states that Chris was 17 at the time the nude pictures were taken. I have introduced evidence to the contrary: .
I know this is original research, but I propose that the claim of Chris being 17 be portrayed less as a fact. 82.46.6.251 13:12, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Embedded metainfo within a picture is not reliable proof as the date and time set on the camera could be set wrong by the owner of the camera, battery failure, etc. I say leave it like it is until infallible evidence proves otherwise. --  ALLSTAR  ECHO 16:32, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

text: We'd need a solid source for this, if on existed I bet those photos reappear. Benjiboi 04:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doubt about whether he was really 17 at the time of nude's capture 

message: I just can't seem to win. The article has a POV bias against Fox News because it presents only Cris Crocker's biased opinions against Fox news. I have tried to address this in an edit but have been shot down twice now. The point that the article should make is that Fox News was not the only network to ridicule this guy, but it's the only one that he has publically responded to. To exclude that piece of information is to give creedence to the idea that Fox News is actually homophobic, etc for being the only network to ridicule him, as if the other networks took his video seriously as a matter of informed public debate. --Chemguy2 23:10, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was more about your wording that made it POV. Check it now. It includes your info and source. --  ALLSTAR  ECHO 00:55, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia is not about winning although it can certainly be interpreted that way - our mutual goal is to produce a great article. I've tried editing that section so it correctly references CNN, also this doesn't support that anyone but Fox ridiculed him in the same manner (gender, Osama reference, etc) The CNN guy simply alluded that he was off-balance. It still needs work but to me it's pretty close to explaining Crocker's response to Fox. Benjiboi 04:46, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

text: For the sake of being "fair and balanced", do you want us to pretend he also criticized PBS?  I don't get your point.  Ichormosquito 05:25, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fox News 

message: Someone called the studio. They said he was dropped. If you ask me, the reason he was dropped probably has something to do with his 9/11 videoKsfl 03:22, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No other proof than a video on youtube of a guy saying it happened without providing proof himself? Next.. --  ALLSTAR  ECHO 04:07, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Fascinating and dramatic (actually it wasn't even that) but not usable. If and when reliable sources cover it then we can explore it's inclusion. Benjiboi 04:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, there's a phone number and addresses on the site page. You could investigate for us...Ksfl 10:33, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That would constitute original research, which Wikipedia prohibits.  We'll have the story up as soon as the news media does.  Ichormosquito 15:26, 7 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Utterly disgusting.  "Think of the children!  Won't somebody please think of the children?"  Ichormosquito 05:17, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: lol! That heathen is making my eyes burn with holy regret and homosexual overkill, must smite. Benjiboi 05:23, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  14:56, 14:57, 14:58.... 

message: Has there been a concensus anywhere that the title of Crocker's video "Leave Britney Alone" should be written in capital letters? It seems a bit unconventional as it stands in the article. Orane (talk) 18:42, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's how that title is presented so it was left that way but Wikipedia:Manual of Style (capital letters) encourages title case so go for it. Benjiboi 23:58, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been fixed. See history for explanation. --  ALLSTAR  ECHO 22:44, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question, before I edit 

message: I noticed while removing some apparent cruft that neither footnote listed supported the statement being made - in fact, Crocker wasn't even mentioned in the articles cited to allegedly support the section about the on-stage kiss. Please be sure to always use proper sourcing, so as not to mislead readers or give undue weight to minor publicity stunts. Feather Jonah (talk) 05:03, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect footnotes 

message: Is Crocker really engaged to be married to Danny Noriega, that guy who was on American Idol last year?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.72.78.201 (talk) 17:33, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We would need a reliable source for that.  -- Banjeboi 04:12, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Engagement 

message: Anyone mind cleaning up that section? Not only does the second paragraph repeat the info in the first paragraph, it also gives 2 different posting dates.Coradon (talk) 11:27, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There are actually two "Leave Britney alone" videos but he is best known for teh second part.  -- Banjeboi 04:16, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundant and conflicting information in the Leave Britney alone section. 

message: About a year ago Crocker declared he was leaving youtube, due to their censorship. I guess he's back? What happened to the text in the article that mentions his original leaving? Hello??? --98.232.181.201 (talk) 09:11, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It is currently the last paragraph under "Post-meme career", i don't think it has ever been removed but it is towards the bottom of the article.  -- Banjeboi 04:18, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: So basically he bashed youtube and left, only to return. Right? Anybody else think that's odd? Has he ever given an explanation? --98.232.181.201 (talk) 01:22, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: He may have, my hunch is that despite his concerns he may have realized that youtube remians the top website for vlogging and going independent has major disadvantages.  -- Banjeboi 03:20, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The return to youtube 

message: Seen from two years after the "Leave Britney Alone" video, it's pretty apparent that that's the only noteworthy thing that Chris Crocker has ever done.
Wikipedia is supposed to be encylopedic, not a fan blog.  Personally, I feel that Crocker is only worthy of a footnote in the Britney Spears section.  However, given that this article exists, and has survived several deletion votes, I accept that there is a consensus that there should be an entry.  However, it would appear that anything outside the Britney incident is non-notable, and should be drastically pruned back.  I know Benjiboi will rush to the articles defence -- does anyone else have an opinion?--64.201.38.62 (talk) 18:42, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you'll find that many if not most editors here don't really care that much one way or the other but we don't report on what we think should be in the article but instead where sources lead. Indeed it was pointed out that he had a reality show deal in the works before his worldwide fame in the main deletion discussion. Ergo it violates WP:NPOV to remove "anything outside the Britney incident" as that would characterize the subject WP:Unduely as being solely or mainly focussed on that. Instead we give that content the main share of attention as that's what the sources do. As his career moves on other items may be added.  -- Banjeboi 02:54, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

text: Leave Chris alone!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.230.175 (talk) 09:35, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Focus of article 

message: Chris has said in his videos for both his 21st and 22nd birthdays that he was born on December 7, 1987. I noticed this was on here before and now the page simply says "December 1987." Why is this? Did he ask someone to remove it or something? 
ETA: Here is his 22nd birthday video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xevk9MWI43k
Stephe1987 (talk) 08:10, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It has been left out due to the death threats and lack of reliable sourcing. This does however seem to cover the confirmation that is needed so I think absent anyone's objection we can work his video into a proper reference and re-add it. Thanks for finding it!  -- Banjeboi 08:24, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secret Birthdate? 

message: He now doesn't actually live like a women anymore, hes taken up a male persona (sorry, not sure whats the correct useage without being a jerk). Anyways, doesnt look like a girl now 72.199.100.223 (talk) 08:06, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Different Now 

message: He's a member of the local YMCA in Bristol, Tennessee. I saw him not too long ago. 208.71.232.186 (talk) 02:20, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saw Him 

message: can someone change the article image, in order to represent his current appearance. he hasn't looked like that for over a year now, and the current image on the article is rather deceptive. Seanroxursox (talk) 13:20, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  current appearance 

message: Can the picture please be updated to a more recent one?  Thank you
Eap77 (talk) 18:28, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: It would be if the image has been uploaded to wikipedia. — Abhishek Talk to me 03:52, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Eap77, 24 June 2011 

message: "(internet celebrity)" needs to be removed from the article's title. Does it say "Shane Dawson (youtube comedian)" on Shane Dawson's wikipedia article title? does it say "Perez Hilton (celebrity blogger)" Perez Hilton's wikipedia article title? No, it doesn't. Apparently the only reason it says (internet celebrity) on Chris Crocker's would be to limit Chris Crocker as an internet celebrity from a biased point of view. Please see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view and remove "(internet celebrity)" from the title. --QuickEditor (talk) 23:40, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Change to what ? cant be Chris Crocker as there is a Chris Crocker (American football) and a need for a disambiguation page. Mtking (edits)  23:55, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Chris Crocker (Entertainer) would be more appropriate as it is a neutral point of view, labeling Chris Crocker as an "internet celebrity" would only make sense from the viewpoint of public minority (what alot of people think), and not from a neutral point of view. Also, the term "internet celebrity" should be removed from the first sentence and replaced with "entertainer". Someone who makes money from entertaining people is an entertainer. I even have a reliable source where he claims to be an actor signed to a production company1, that would knock "internet celebrity" right into the trash bin. I propose that this change be made as soon as possible. (If you are still unsure about whether or not this change should be made, please see Wikipedia:Neutral point of view. --QuickEditor (talk) 03:21, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I am not convinced the change is much better, or for that fact the need for any change. By the way youtube is not a reliable source for anything.Mtking (edits)  03:34, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  remove (internet celebrity) from the title 

message: How is it that "mind in the gutter" redirects here? --DanMat6288 (talk) 03:17, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Mind in the Gutter should redirect to Chris Crocker discography Is there anyone that know's how do to a redirect? --Devin Davis (talk) 03:48, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: , I changed the target to Chris Crocker discography.  GB fan 13:20, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mind in the gutter 

message: Please change the Chris Crocker Wikipedia Photo 
FROM: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Chris_Crocker.jpg 
TO: http://twitpic.com/7j32z5 because Chris Crocker himself is requesting that it be changed.
(Reference is @ChrisCrocker Twitter Status: http://twitter.com/#!/ChrisCrocker/status/140275097373114368)
69.120.224.68 (talk) 05:01, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: CTJF83 18:58, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from , 26 November 2011 

message: As a personal request from Chris Crocker on his Twitter account and the need of an updated picture of him, I have changed his picture on this article to a recent self-portrait he made a few weeks ago. The new picture is public domain and may be used for this purpose. 
Here is the link of the picture I uploaded.
I’m sorry if I didn’t add a new section notifying about the picture change. 
Likeluis (talk) 05:36, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated picture of Chris Crocker. 

message: I had included info on Crocker's latest single 'Locked Up Lovers'. I included the date it was released, and it's chart position and radio plays, as tweeted by Crocker. However, it got removed. I just linked to his Twitter account as a reference. I don't do this often so just wondering if there was a reason for deletion?
:Wikipedia strives to use reliable sources, those with a reputation for fact checking and accuracy. A persons twitter feed is what Wikipedia calls "a self published source" and can only be used for a very limited number and types of purposes: non controversial and non promotional content about the person who is sending the twit.  "Hey everyone i have a new record coming out!!!!!" is promotional and not an acceptable use. -- The Red Pen of Doom 20:12, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Single 

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thread_title:  File:Chris Crocker11.jpg Nominated for Deletion 

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thread_title:  File:Chris Crocker in V Magazine.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion 

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thread_title:  File:Chriscrockerbiogimage.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion 

message: Please add https://twitter.com/ChrisCrocker/status/217732309808455681/photo/1/large as profile picture. 
Requested via twitter:
Chris Crocker ‏@ChrisCrocker  9m
Can someone make this my Wiki picture? Pic taken by @CharlesQuiles and he grants permission. No copyright issues. http://pic.twitter.com/UqKMbfOK
MalefiCid (talk) 21:48, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This has already been accomplished.  There is a problem with the permissions though, Chris Crocker can not give permission for another person's work.  GB fan 22:10, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 26 June 2012 

message: Chris Crocker requested to modify and change his photo on this article on Wikipedia. I just wanted to notify the change in order to avoid any problem. The photo is public-domain. 186.4.4.88 (talk) 06:41, 27 November 2011‎ (UTC) 
:I have spoken with Chris directly to have the older picture updated. He has released them to me officially via email under public domain. I will be uploading it shortly. The only issue would be its present notability given that the existing photo reflects his public image during the time that he received widespread attention. Dmarquard (talk) 20:43, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The image you removed, which is dated to 2009, two years after most of his media exposure thus far, can be added lower in the article, of course. I saw when you changed the image, but I somehow overlooked this comment you posted here on the talk page. Flyer22 (talk) 04:04, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  New main picture request