Talk:Charles Mackerras

message: He has often been careful to give historically authentic performances of these works: in a 1965 performance of The Marriage of Figaro he ensured that ornamentation was added in a way that Mozart would have recognised.  This puzzles me.  the second part of the sentence seems to imply that he wasn't always as authentic as the first part makes out. HenryFlower 08:26, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Authenticity 

message: I rather think the confusion over the three refs to the Gramophone article were caused by the conflation of Notes and References. Date and page ref now added, but it looks a bit odd to my eye. Tim Riley 09:04, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: This article is in severe need of reorganisation - just about all that stuff in the footnotes should be in the article.  Can anyone remember who he succeeded at ENO and/or WNO?  I'm just populating :Category:Music directors (opera) and a couple of succession boxes here would be handy. --GuillaumeTell 16:52, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: On your first point, it was a previous editor's slip of the fingers that accidentally banished half the text to the footnotes - now fixed. On the others, I'll have a rummage and report back. Tim riley (talk) 18:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bizarre! 

message: . I've assigned it . HJ Mitchell | Penny for your thoughts?   20:19, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And I assigned it  earlier. ;) - JuneGloom07  Talk?  20:53, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useful source for biographical information 

message: Apropos of the above, I have tried for a free image via three sometimes fruitful sources: two London libraries and one university library. No luck. I am pretty sure that fair use - non-free is wholly applicable here. Tim riley (talk) 14:54, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Try requesting one from Flickr, there are a few possibilities there. Alternatively, this article is receiving a lot of attention, and he has only just died- there would be every possibility of a free image coming up soon. Ssilvers, you're being downright disruptive now. If you honestly don't understand why you're wrong, that's fine, just avoid NFC altogether. However, use of this image now is not acceptable. J Milburn (talk) 17:40, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to try Flickr now. Like I've said, I've have previous successes there, I may come by one.  Connormahtalk 19:54, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

text: I sent in a message regarding . I'll keep you guys updated. Connormahtalk 19:57, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If Musicmum's willing to share, this one is great. This is another nice one. J Milburn (talk) 20:25, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll wait for a response to my first message - double messages are always a bit awkward to send. Like I said, I'll keep you updated. Connormahtalk 21:08, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's wise, we want something from him, we should not pester.  If this does not pan out, why not restore the image and have a deletion debate?  Speaking as an admin, I generally will delete an image on my own only if it is noncontroversial or a clear copyvio.  It looks to me like, as Jack1956 notes, the fair use rationale seems valid, though I have not had time to study it in detail.--Wehwalt (talk) 12:59, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I deleted it because it was repeatedly added to the article when it was not required. If all reasonable efforts to obtain a free image come to nothing, and if we leave the article (which is currently receiving a lot of attention) for a couple of weeks with "replace this image", I would have no objection to an image (preferably a non-commercial one, or one with a free-ish license if possible) being used under the NFCC. J Milburn (talk) 16:52, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Where does it say in NFCC that there is a need to wait while someone on flikr decides whether to grant us a free licence?  And obviously your comment about the free ish image is good practice, but I am not certain it is policy.--Wehwalt (talk) 18:00, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: NFCC#1- if a non-free image is replaceable, it may not be used. Until we have determined that it is not replaceable (as in, waited to see if a free image is possible) we cannot use it. Simple. J Milburn (talk) 21:17, 19 July 2010 (UTC)

text: Just wait; there is no deadline. As I say, if reasonable efforts have ben made and there is still nothing in two weeks, we can reinstate the non-free image. If you're eager for there to be an illustration, put some effort into aquiring a free one. That would be a much better way to spend your time than complaining here. J Milburn (talk) 14:44, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

text: As I have said more than enough times, we do not use non-free images until free images turn up; we use non-free images if and only if there is no reasonable possibility of a free image being acquired. So no, the old image should not be restored "until such time as a free image is available". Please take a look at our non-free content criteria, and, as above, if you are keen to see an image, put some effort into getting hold of a free one. J Milburn (talk) 16:04, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have previously done so, as described above. I am bound to say that J Milburn's personal interpretation of the WP guidelines seems to me sui generis. He/she is an administrator, and has powers accordingly, but I cannot feel that he/she has used them wisely or logically in this case. - Tim riley (talk) 16:38, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

text: The fact that you were a regular editor of this article while the subject was still alive, yet were still all too happy to leave a non-free image in place in the article lead, really reveals a lot about your understanding of our NFCC. J Milburn (talk) 16:46, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

text: ...And, with severe danger of repeating myself, do we know that a free image is not available? Not until we have given it some time, and made some effort to acquire one. (This is nothing to do with copyright law, don't complicate things.) There has been no arrogance and no misuse of admin tools; it is regrettable that we did not have an image of the subject, but if we don't have a free one, so be it. Equally, we have had unillustrated featured articles that have appeared on the main page. J Milburn (talk) 17:50, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

text: I'm not a lawyer, I'm not even from the US. I don't pretend to know anything about US copyright law. I do not need to know anything about it to understand and enforce our non-free content criteria; equally, I can know everything about our BLP policy without knowing the first thing about libel. I've no interest in arguing about legalities, and I really don't see what you hope to achieve by calling me what you are doing. Can we stick to the issue, please? J Milburn (talk) 20:24, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reached an agreement with the Flickr user - hopefully I can get it uploaded in the next couple days. Connormahtalk 03:23, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section break 

message: Early life and background "He was the eldest of seven children, including five brothers (names of four brothers) and two sisters (names of two sisters)." Seven does not equal four + two. Perhaps it should read, "He was the eldest of seven children, including (names of four brothers and two sisters)."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.215.133 (talk) 14:50, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Totality 

message: This edit, with which I entirely agree, made me remember Mackerras's obituary by Michael Shmith in The Age (16 July), which started out very badly.  It had the following postnominals:  AC, CH, KBE, CBE.  Now, he wasn't a KBE at all; but even if he had been, his KBE would have subsumed his CBE, so it would have been just AC, CH, KBE.   Then it said he died on 15 July; it may have been 15 July in Oz, but he died in London, where it was the 14th.  The article proper seemed to be OK otherwise.  --  Jack of Oz  ... speak! ...  11:59, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: People seem to forget that most Commonwealth citizens outside the armed forces will be made Knight Bachelor, not KBE, and so as soon as they see Sir ... they assume that OBE CBE or MBE following the name must be wrong.  I must admit I was initially quite surprised to see AC before CH, but I actually went and chekced the order of wear before donig anything else.  Apropos my correction of the "correction", see User talk:Accurate11#Charles Mackerras... David Underdown (talk) 12:50, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Postnominals and obituaries

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