Talk:David Sharp (mountaineer)

message: If I had a mother like that, I'd run away to Mount Everest, too. With a parent like that you don't need enemies. Are you sure she was quoted right? Nomad (talk) 20:43, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sharp's Mother interview 

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:I just watched "Everest Beyond the limit" (season 1 episode 6) the Discovery Channel documentary of the Russell Brice led Himalayan Experience Expedition in which double amputee Mark Ingles climbed Everest. In it guide Mark Woodward  states at 9:40 am that the climber later identified as David Sharp was there during the ascent but not seen by Max Chaya (the Lebanese climber) until he descended. That seems to be the first radio transmission to Brice about Sharp. User talk:50.0.164.213
Might be helpful, but these comments and suggestions needed to be cut from the article, at any rate. Steveozone (talk) 02:55, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  From the Discovery Channel documentary 

message: There is nothing in the article to indicate why this article is included in the category "mummies". Maybe the body is still there and has mummified by now, but if you want to say that in the article you will need a source, and until you have one it doesn't seem appropriate to have it in that category. So I am removing this article from that category. Cottonshirtτ 05:52, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is this a mummy? 

message: Sharp died under a rock overhang known as "Green Boots Cave", sitting with arms clasped around his legs, next to and to the right of the body of green-booted Indian climber Tsewang Paljor who died in the same place in 1996 under similar circumstances and remained on the mountain as a macabre landmark.[3] The overhang is located alongside the main climbing trail approximately 450 m (1,480 ft) below the summit and 250 m (820 ft) above Camp 4. Climbing solo with oxygen, he had made an attempt to reach the summit during the late afternoon and, presumably having reached it, had descended during one of the coldest nights of the year.
Two men are named in the above excerpt from the article.  The last sentence refers to one of them by the pronoun *he*.  Is it Sharp or Paljor who is the *he* to whom this sentence refers?  I don't know.  This needs to be edited for clarity by someone who does know. ScarletRibbons (talk) 02:30, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It's Sharp.  Paljor was one of a party of three Indian police climbing in 1996; Sharp was climbing solo. Fixed it. Steveozone (talk) 02:42, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: TYVM for fixing it. ScarletRibbons (talk) 02:35, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  He Who? 

message: I've altered a quote slightly (to use the original wording Russ rather than expedition manage Russell Brice):
:"I ... radioed, and Russ [expedition manager Russell Brice] said, 'Mate, you can't do anything. He's been there x number of hours without oxygen. He's effectively dead. Trouble is, at 8500 m it's extremely difficult to keep yourself alive, let alone keep anyone else alive".[5]
based on what appears to be a quote of the quote, here: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10383279
The actual ref page [5], http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10383276, doesn't contain the quote - possibly because the article has been updated since - so should the ref be removed?
::I would say remove if it doesn't contain the info anymore.  Replace the citation with the one you've found that does have the info. ScarletRibbons (talk) 09:53, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor quote fix, bad ref? 

message: Who are Asian Trekking? There is a reference to there being "no radio with which to contact Asian Trekking". I presume that this group must have "organized" his climb, but if so that should be stated.Royalcourtier (talk) 22:00, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is an article on them: Asian Trekking Fotaun (talk) 12:17, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Article clearly states: Sharp was climbing with a "bare-bones" package from Asian Trekking which does not offer support after a certain altitude is reached on the mountain. He was grouped with 13 other independent climbers ...group was not an "expedition"' Snori (talk) 07:36, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asian Trekking 

message: Is this photograph authentic? My understanding was that there were not photographs of David Sharp at the top of the mountain.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.205.153.130 (talk) 21:46, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photograph 

message: I came across this Article and decided to read it as I am a former alpine skier in the Alps (e.g. Matterhorn, Kitzbüheler Horn etc.) and rescue volunteer, who had to be rescued from a remote side of a mountain myself when I skied under some tree roots with frozen bindings. It was pretty cold, and luckily we had radios, but it was a significant effort to get me down even lower on the mountain. And that was at an altitude which wasn't even close to the altitude of just the base camps at Everest. So mountain rescues is an interest of mine.
I thought the Article was a little disorganized and lacking some information for perspective, so I decided to try and improve it a little.  The article is about Sharp, and not just his fatal incident (even though most relates to that), so I grouped the topics about details/reactions for his fatal incident under a new heading.  I added a section on "Problems at high altitude" with some images for some perspective on how difficult high altitude mountaineering/rescues can be, and added some details and references related to his fatal climb.
I removed the picture of the dead climber "Green Boots" [perhaps include one of just the rock overhang, with the climber obscured which I have seen], since I didn't think it's really respectful to the climber's family to repeatedly show/post pictures of dead climbers (... "look mom, it's another picture of dad stuck to the mountain"), and it's on the linked page anyway. That's probably why Sharp's parents asked him to be moved, cause the cave would have likely been renamed "Green & Red Boots Cave" with pics of his frozen body all over the web. I added some more appropriate pictures (Sharp on Everest during a previous expedition and a pic of Sharp's memorial at Everest) ... but they were auto-deleted so I will have to try and redo those.
I added some references I thought were needed, including to the section I wrote.  In a few places this was with hyperlinks to other related Wiki pages that had all the info/references instead of repeating all the info and/or references, and on some of the sections I included references grouped at the end of the paragraph for clarity (multiple mixed references within the paragraph at the end of each sentence didn't make sense).
:P.S.
:I also think the issue about Brice not knowing about Sharp being in trouble until the morning (which came out much later, with radio/video logs to back it up) should be clarified.  I think he was unjustly beaten up in the media and on the web, and that Inglis was off in the clouds with his initial comments to the media.  Furthermore, there was no way for Brice or anyone else to know that Sharp had been there for "X number of hours" unless the radio conversation Inglis referenced was on the decent.  No one knew Sharp was in the cave until the groups/teams ascent early on may 15th. If I get some time maybe I will try to clarify that part, or someone else could do that.
EagleRJO (talk) 16:22, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
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