Talk:United States sanctions

message: This page should mention $10 billion in bank assets seized by the US govt, thus contributing to the likelihood of famine in Afghanistan.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Psgcaravan (talk • contribs) 02:01, 10 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Is there a list somewhere of all countries that the US has embargoed?
How do we find this out? I'll keep looking. Thatmarkguy 12:27, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Myanmar should not be in red as the trade embargo was lifted by President Obama on September 14th, 2016. I am not too sure how to change the map, but is there someone that can remove the red color on Myanmar?--Ameet12345 (talk) 19:45, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myanmar Should Not Be In Red 

message: it would be useful to see # of sanctions over time  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mapmaker345 (talk • contribs) 18:57, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graph over time 

message: Nicaragua should be added on the map
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/news-columns-blogs/andres-oppenheimer/article223311675.html Theasiancowboy (talk) 16:13, 21 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: Hello, should we add Sudan on the Countries section https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_sanctions#Countries since it is in red on the map https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_sanctions#/media/File:US_Sanctions_2.png? --Baptx (talk) 12:02, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sudan 

message: Please add China to the list 45.115.89.221 (talk) 12:36, 22 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese officials are also sanctioned 

message: Should Belarus & Russia be added to the Countries list as of March 2022? They currently are still only under persons list.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.20.204.34 (talk) 21:56, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Belarus & Russia 

message: I feel like the page could use a better picture/graph for the visualization of sanctioned countries. First of all, Afghanistan, while the US didn't sanction the de jure government of Afghanistan, it still sanctions the de facto government, even going as far as seizing all its American stored reserves, which affects all Afghans within the country. Also there's no legend explaining the blue stripes in Iraq (which is not US occupied since American military command was withdrawn in 2011. Also as the other post talks about, Chinese officials are sanctioned as well. Bedrockbob (talk) 02:27, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Better map/graph for visualizing sanctions

message: Because this is keep surfacing:
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|2022
|Yoon Suk-yeol
|In August 2022, Yoon Suk-yeol committed serious diplomatic disrespect and neglect to Nancy Pelosi when she visited South Korea. He took what seemed like a pro-China move.
In response, U.S. President Joe Biden personally initiated economic sanctions against the South Korea. The U.S. anger toward South Korean politicians, who had been busy looking at China for a long time, has only exploded. Yoon Seok-yeol's government officials will not be able to trade dollars, and South Korean companies will not be able to sell anything to the U.S. And U.S. companies in South Korea are advised to withdraw.
Is this actually true, or is this nothing but a lie? 125.240.31.231 (talk) 13:04, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did United States sanction South Korea? 

message: Which one should we use? I found the bottom image searching for replacement images because the former doesn't have former countries and some current ones. Decide below, Huebo48 (talk) 00:36, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which image should we use 

message: * The United States applies sanctions more frequently than any other country or nation, and does so by a wide-margin.[9] According to American Studies academic Manu Karuka, the United States has imposed two-thirds of the world's sanctions since the 1990s.[2] Collectively, the nations that are subject to some kind of U.S. sanction make up little more than one fifth of the world's GDP. Eighty percent of that group comes from China.[10]
I removed this paragraph as part of my massive overhaul of this article because I felt like it was not neutral and gave undue weight to a particular viewpoint. Although it isn't explicitly said, it implicitly and heavily implies that U.S. sanctions are excessive and applied on a too-large of a scale. This implicit suggestion is present throughout the article (with there even being a maintenance tag), and I removed other more obvious passages without being challenged. Now obviously, the implication that U.S. sanctions are excessive isn't wrong per se, but I felt that this specific passage gave undue weight to the idea that U.S. excessively sanctions without explaining other viewpoints. The second sentence in this passage is actually already in the lead (and I kept it there when I rewrote the lead), but I feel repeated mentioning of the same statistic and same source is violation of WP:N and WP:UNDUE.
But even if I were to concur and leave the first two sentences alone, the last two sentences is not written in a neutral manner and, in my view, is an example of WP:WEASEL.
*Collectively, the nations that are subject to some kind of U.S. sanction make up little more than one fifth of the world's GDP. Eighty percent of that group comes from China. 
Let's first ignore the fact one of these sentences are lifted word-for-word from the source. The reason why this is WP:WEASEL is because the sentence appears to lend evidential weight to the idea that U.S. excessively sanctions (wow, countries representing 1/5th of the entire world's GDP is being sanctioned! Wow China represents so much of that sanction!) but in reality this claim is highly ambiguous and rather misleading. First of all, what is the definition of "nations that are subject to some kind of U.S. sanction" even mean? As readers of the newly revamped article can tell, not all U.S. sanctions are the same. This leads to some questions:
* First of all, what constitutes a nation that is subject to some kind of U.S. sanction? Does it include countries like Central African Republic, which has warm relations with the U.S.? Sanctions against C.A.R. are against those who are undermining the state there, not the state itself. Does it include Japan, Italy, or Mexico, all U.S. security partners whose citizens in criminal organizations have faced several rounds of sanctions? Does it include Cyprus, which has an arms embargo because of the ongoing situation there, but is not otherwise sanctioned at all? What does "some kind of U.S. sanction" even mean?
* Wrapping countries like China and North Korea together under a combined 1/5th GDP necessarily implies that the sanctions are equal. They are not. The DPRK is a comprehensively sanctioned jurisdiction, whereas China sanctions selectively target a small number of alleged human rights abusers, Hong Kong sovereignty underminers, and targeted restrictions on the country's military and defense industry. Collectively, these restrictions represent a tiny sliver of China's total economy.
* The whole idea of using a percentage of GDP to represent U.S. sanctions incorrectly implies that U.S. sanctions target specific countries, when as we explained, they mostly do not. With the exception of a few cases like DPRK, U.S. sanctions target individuals, entities, and types of activities. So even using country GDP as a metric for measuring the scope of U.S. sanctions is, by itself, misleading.
Pinging  who originally reverted my edit. So setting aside the first two sentences for now, I don't think the latter two sentences should be kept at all for the reasons listed above. --haha169 (talk) 22:49, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I think keep the first two sentences but your explanation of the issue in last two sentences is compelling — not a sensible metric, or at least not as currently phrased. Those should be deleted. JArthur1984 (talk) 00:13, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of the following paragraph