Talk:History of the Actor model

message: I have clarified the article.  See what you think.  Thanks, Carl--Carl Hewitt 06:53, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like you have replaced the original claim of an alleged connections to relativistic physics, which I thought suspect, with other stuff.  That's all I care about, I think.---CH  (talk) 20:45, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article clarified 

message: There are still some rather long sections that try to link quantum mechanics to the actor model that seem to not quite go anywhere or establish anything. In particular, here is a long quote from Einstein, there is a long quote about the EPR paradox, and there's a shorter quote about incompleteness. 
* I feel that this is not the correct article to ruminate about the interpretation of quantum mechanics. We already have a bulging category of such articles, at :Category:Quantum measurement. 
* The inclusion of these quotes does nothing to establish any connection whatsoever between the actor model and quantum mechanics. From what I read here, I can only conclude that these are completely unrelated topics which just happen to be mentioned in the same paragraph.  I just don't see the connection, and the article doesn't make one.
The discussion of QM doesn't seem to serve any purpose; I'd suggest cutting ou the quotes entirely.  Isn't it enough to just say that the actor model was inspired by QM?
My complaint is that there is a standard, orthodox interpretation of QM, and that is that QM is described by a complete set of commuting observables in a Hilbert space aka a C* algebra. I can't imagine how anything the actor model might say would lead to this standard, orthodox interpretation. This is why I am question this part of the article.
Now, there's some slight implication that the actor model might make some sort of non-standard predictions? In that case, what are these non-standard predictions? Are they in accordance with QM, or do they contradict it? Have they been measured in a lab? If not, why not? 
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Let me rephrase.  There is a statement that the actor model itself has certain "unobservables". This statement is far from obvious; it even seems wrong, and so this statement itself requires explanation.  If, for example, an actor model was implemented in a matrix of several digital computers communicating via analog signals, then certainly, its quite possible to monitor the system completely.  This is commonly done by chip design companies during prototyping stages, where giant chip emulators and simulators collect all sorts of info, without "disturbing the state of the observed system". In principle, every last bit can be monitored. So, in what way, exactly, is some part of the actor model not observable? linas 23:14, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Connections to quantum mechanics needs work 

message: The standard published reference for this subject is Actor Model of Computation which is published in the electronic journal ArXiv that in computer science ranks higher than most refereed conference proceedings.
Unfortunately, partly because ArXiv is somewhat of a competitor to Wikipedia, the editor User:CBM keeps censoring these references.67.169.144.115 (talk) 15:18, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standard reference censored by [[User:CBM]]  

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