Talk:St. Johnsbury Academy

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My reasoning is as follows: This article is extensive, but not well referenced. A lot of lists, some more pics and is someone else going to help .... it takes a few people to get a consensus. It also needs some Copy editing. Victuallers 17:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  March 2007 Assesment

message: I have removed the text inserted by 166.87.255.132, at 21:34 on 19 May 2006, as it appears to have been copied from a copyrighted source: http://www.boardingschoolreview.com/school_ov/school_id/109.Cbvt 18:19, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyvio

message: I would put an image up but i don't know how, images can be found by searching on google if that is allowed—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.25.2.174 (talk • contribs) 18:33, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A photo you took yourself would be ideal, as it should be easy for area residents, students or staff of the school (I'm not any of those) to take one that doesn't require fair use licensing and reasoning. TransUtopian 16:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Image inclusion

message: The page is written in a highly personalized fasion. The following sentence "Also, a tirelessly devoted and amazing athletic trainer who gives excellent sports massages is on campus and has several students in his sports medication 2 course assist him. Many have gone on to study physical therapy or sports medicine and are ACT certified." 
supports such a writing platform. I suggest that this article be re-written; preferably from a neutral third-person view.Rajrajmarley 19:24, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed - I would like to see this article rewritten by a neutral third party  to improve it however i attended the St. JA so i am not neutral... if anyone needs to improve an article this would be one Ikaveman 18:44, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tone issues

message: The school must have a rich history. This needs to be brought out by someone who has records available. The history needs to be significant, not records of annual balls or anything. Student7 03:03, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: Just went looking for a Wikipedia article that is highly rated for high schools. There weren't many! Anyway, one is Stuyvesant High School in NYC. They are a huge school. Nevertheless, maybe we can get some ideas from it. 
It shows a lot of work. They have gobs of footnotes. They aren' perfect. Their first one refers to the "prestigious" universities their students go to. This is not substantiated by their reference. Sounds POV to me, but I wasn't about to mess with one of the few FA articles on schools in the world! 
Another article is Hopkins School. They are smaller. Incredibly old. They have a tiny athletics subarticle. They discuss cost which seems reasonable. (The cost doesn't seem reasonable! The discussion seems reasonable!) Not a lot of footnotes.
The last is Plano Senior High School, another large scbool. Like most Texas schools, they are big on sports. Data is well organized and presented. Lots of footnotes again.
All have histories. See what you think. Student7 23:33, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that Hopkins School is the standard to strive for on this article. --Lendorien 13:31, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gold Standard for High School articles?

message: I've organized the list of alumni chronologically, as best I could.  Two entries have no associated dates.  I also note with some dismay the number of entries in the list of "traditions" that have no explanation whatsoever, which makes them essentially useless for non-students.  (For instance, "Senior privileges".) Perhaps someone associated with the school could take on the task of telling us what these enigmatic entries mean, and what they are intended to promote or teach, or else someone is liable to come along and, recognizing their present non-notability and lack of informational content, delete them. Accounting4Taste 22:23, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: * I've re-organized the alumni list alphabetically to match the style of featured articles in the "Schools" section. Accounting4Taste 02:45, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

text: * I've done some work on it. I reformatted some things to get rid of lists and pulled the traditions section (which seemed unencyclopedic)and did some text edits here and there. --Lendorien 13:21, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision 

message: * History section needs to be expanded with more detail. It barely covers anything at all.
* Needs an academics section written. It currently has notheing about the acedemic program, accreditation, etc.
* Athletics section could use expansion. Details of the program, or perhaps notable accomplishments in the recent past.
* Facilities section needs to be prosified and the most significant points drawn out. Historic buildings, etc. Perhaps more general overview than a list of buildings.
* More sources required.
* Needs a photograph or two. The school logo would be useful as well.
--Lendorien 13:41, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: TO DO list

message: Several editors have tried to describe the academy as other than private. It has a board of directors, not a school board. It may take money from public school boards. That does not make it semi-private or public. (I would rather leave this in the article as a comment since the newbies making these remarks aren't even aware that a discussion page exists). Student7 (talk) 23:57, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Private not Public

message: Just a minor comment. All national figures attract protest. What would be notable is that he attracted no protest. Just a thought. Since his appearance was routine, essentially a courtesy to his son, and not a dramatic announcement of new policy or anything. Student7 (talk) 22:03, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I couldn't even work out why he was mentioned as having given the commencement speech since in the ~200 year history of the school I'm sure he's not the only 'notable' commencement speaker. I figured while it was listed I'd give it some context and link down a couple of sections to the alums. Not averse to its removal at all. TRAVELLINGCARIMy storyTell me yours 01:10, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Negroponte appearance

message: Just an inquiry only. Since the one coach did achieve statewide notability, couldn't he be listed very briefly (shorter than before - one line at most) under "notable faculty"? The more lengthy explanation would be in his article if he ever had one. 
I don't care for long notable lists myself. Another disclosure: I am not an alum!   :)   Student7 (talk) 11:54, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable coaches

message: The following two people were not considered notable engouth for inclusion:
* Albert Barney (1938), Chief Justice of the Vermont Supreme Court
* Walter E. Bowman  (1918), Secretary General, Federation of European American Organizations
These need to be re-added if and when an article is written AND a reference can be found tying them to the Academy.Student7 (talk) 20:20, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Record of deletion

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