Talk:CDRWIN

message: Notability:
- it is notable for being the program introducing cue-sheets - something that anyone trying to burn cd-images (and not only) is familiar with -> Cue sheet (music software)
- if ImgBurn or DeepBurner (which arent known for anything new or unique) are notable enough to be in Wikipedia then CDRWIN is twice as notable.
- notable sources:
http://www.cdrinfo.pl/cdr/soft/cdrwin/cdrwin.php3 - leading polish CDR site
http://www.pcworld.com/downloads/file/fid,7745-order,1-page,1-c,alldownloads/description.html - PCWORLD
http://archiv.chip.de/artikel/c1_archiv_artikelunterseite_17128522.html?tid1=33105&tid2=0 - Chip.de
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=CDRWIN&btnG=Search - 750000 hits at google are IMO enough to be notable
Software is notable if it has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the software's author(s).
* This criterion includes published works in all forms, such as newspaper articles, books, user guides, television documenaries, and full-length magazine reviews 2 except for the following
at least several articles in German PC-WELT a recent article in Polish PC World Computer. (and probably more, but i own these in print)
Could someone write something about the copy protection that this software used to have. It would full up your harddisk with tiny files, typically called .ini; .dll; etc. It would recheck the serial during the burn, and could result in these files being created.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.155.24.246 (talk) 22:55, 1 May 2008 (UTC)

message: I guess it's meant to say that somebody used this software to create backups of Playstation CDs or homebrews with invalid TOC, because there is no such thing as Playstation TOC protection actually. None of licensed CDs had invalid TOC. It's a bit unclear from how this paragraph is written.
95.68.39.123 (talk) 15:56, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Playstation TOC Protection

message: I'm surprised nobody writes about the issues between Goldenhawk and Engelmann Media (where it's now being developed). 
The current version of CDRWIN is 9.0.11.304. Not 4.0H. 
Sure, I could write it myself but anyone else can do a better job. 99.246.186.53 (talk) 18:04, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I was curious about these issues and this is what I've found:
"CeBit #1 Posted on Saturday, March 23 @ 20:41:36 CET by N.B. 
CeBit ... As I said, I visited this years CeBit. 
And there are several things I have to tell you  
The CeBit is a really huge and massive expo. 
I was only there for around 8 hours, and I didn´t 
even see the halfb of all the stuff that was there. 
The problem there is, that most companies send their 
sales man, and no technicans. So most of my 
questions were replied by: Sorry, we don´t know. 
Yamaha for example, as I was asking about their new 
CDR technology. So the most things which were shown 
there, I´ve already seen on the internet. So not 
the CeBit is the biggest computer expo, no it is the 
internet  
If you checked CDRSoft and CDFreaks you surely know 
everything important about the new developements on 
the CDR market. 
The most exklusive part I can tell you: 
I did talk to the boss of Disc4You. 
Mr. Ullrich Engelmann 
I didn´t tell him about my being the webmaster of 
CDRSoft, and so we had a nice talk. Mainly about 
their "new" products, and the future of CDR gernerally. 
The first thing I want to tell about is: CDRWin 5 
Many people say it is an fake, and a sucking german 
CDR Site, claimed it comes from Goldenhawk. 
Just bullshit  
The real story: 
The man behind Goldenhawk (no, I won´t post his name) 
made a bunch of cash with his good old burning tool 
CDRWin. It was claimed that he uses some stolen code from 
a freeware CDR program, but that isn´t imoportant anymore ... 
As you´ve seen for yourself, the only thing changed 
in CDRWin the past months, was the support for new 
burners, and nothing else ... 
He has lost the intersstes for his program, and so he stoped 
pushing the developemnet forward. 
CDRWin is dead. There won´t come new features. 
But here we come back to Disc4You: 
They already distributed the program on the german market, and 
so they are a close partner of Goldenhawk. 
Since Goldenhawk doesn´t have interests in CDRWin anymore, 
Disc4You bought the name and started to develope CDRWin5. 
Since Goldenhawk didn´t sold the source code, and CDRWin is 
outdated, Disc4You asked the team from Padus (Disc4You distributes 
the Padus products in germany) for their burning engine. 
That is why CDRWin5 (the first version) is using the pfc.dll 
from the Padus DiscJuggler. 
Mr. Engelmann told me about Disc4You started to build up their 
own writing engine and so soon CDRWin5 will get the new engine 
from Disc4You. 
CDRwin v.3.8 and v.4.0 had features that are missing in v.5 
of this program. Cue Sheets and some other neat features. 
Mr. Engelmann promised, that this features will be implemented 
soon again, so CDRWin5 can replace the old versions totally. 
Since the developement of CDRWin5 is one of the top prioritys of 
Disc4You there will come out new version frequently. 
Because of this CDRWin5 will get an auto update function soon. 
Till that you can check the Disc4You ftp (ftp.disc4you.de) and 
see on which date the file was uploaded. 
Yeah, so the story about CDRWin5 being developed from Goldenhawk 
is a fake. Goldenhawk sold the name to Disc4You and they will 
push the developement forward. Since they cannot use the source 
of CDRWin4, it will take some time till the product is back 
to the quality of the version from GoldenHawk, but I am pretty 
sure that they will gain this level pretty soon .." 
Ondertitel (talk) 18:13, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: More info

message: Please consider this page for deletion. Wayback machine last entry July 16, 2011. No copy of download page.
http://web.archive.org/web/20110716143934/http://www.goldenhawk.com/
http://www.computerhope.com/comp/ghawk.htm
Hpfeil (talk) 21:15, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don’t think a WP article should be created or deleted just because someone is in or out of business or whether a download page exists or not. Also, if you are looking for cdrwin.pdf, a search engine still points at lots of copies, and the Internet Archive does seem to have a copy: http://web.archive.org/web/20070221154246/http://www.goldenhawk.com/download/cdrwin.pdf. Vadmium (talk, contribs) 00:28, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Golden Hawk is no longer in business and has no e-mail or phone support options