Talk:ATR (aircraft manufacturer)

message: ATR logo should be updated to the one realeased during the Paris Air Show 2015  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.228.112.213 (talk) 09:40, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo 

message: I am wondering should the Article about "Aerei da Trasporto Regionale or Avions de Transport Régional (ATR)" be displayed on the PAge "ATR"? As far as i can see there are about 20 different meanings for the Short Form of ATR. 
I know there is a Disambiguation Page, but why is the Aireline not simply a part of this Page and the ATR Page shows the Selection of Meanings for ATR?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rodnox (talk • contribs) 13:03, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ATR Selection Page 

message: I have flown on two different Aero Airlines (a subsidiary of Finnair) ATR-72s in September 2005, embarking the plane through the front door. I think that the use of rear door for passangers in ATR-72 is not universal.--138.23.181.10 22:22, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes you are right; a versions of the ATR42 had a front pax door (originally ordered by Alitalia Express) instead of a cargo door, and some ATR72 have this too. It is quite rare, though. Fernando K 02:59, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ATR rear door use

message: I am sitting at the airport with the AT42 parked in front of me and they are not using a pogo stick to support the aircraft. In fact I have never seen them use one. Is it for the 72 only?
:This is the tail support and it is for ATR72 only. This led to a joke that the ATR72 is the "male" version and the ATR42 is the "female". Fernando K 03:02, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Multiple things

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:ATR logo.PNG

message: hi folks dont you guys think we need the below mentioned info for this type of aircraft.
like
General characteristics
* Crew: 
* Length: 
* Wingspan: 
* Height: 
* Wing area: 
* Empty weight: 
* Loaded weight: 
* Max takeoff weight: 
* Powerplant: 
Performance
* Maximum speed: 
* Combat radius: 
* Ferry range: 
* Service ceiling: 
* Rate of climb: 
* Wing loading: 
* Power/mass: 
You can take a look into this article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supermarine_Spitfire or 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cessna_172
Thanks.
Nikhilhuilgol 07:07, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for bringing that to our attention. However, this page no longer covers the aircraft themselves, but just the ATR company. The aircraft are covered at ATR 42 and ATR 72, and already include specifications. Thanks again. - BillCJ 07:15, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Characteristics is it required

message: There should be info about ATR's study on a 90-seater stretch... on one of the three articles atleast. 76.66.196.229 (talk) 14:04, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  stretch 

message: Rather than the convoluted ATR (aircraft manufacturer) should the article be renamed as Avions de Transport Régional which is far more appropriate ? MilborneOne (talk) 18:16, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  article names 

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message: Images should be updated at the top of the article. There's currently a picture of a very old aircraft that's not in service anymore (ATR 42-300 UtAir) and another one of a 72-500 instead of a 72-600. They make the page look old and dated. 
The pictures at the top should be of the 3 different models currently produced by ATR: ATR 42-600, ATR 72-600 and ATR 72-600F. 
Here are the images I suggest we use:
File:ATR 42-300, UTair Ukraine JP7305195.jpg|current UtAir 42-300 
File:ATR-72-500 Precision Air Services (PRF) F-WWEW - MSN 923 - Named Kilimandjaro - Will be 5H-PWG (5000147631).jpg|current Precision Air 72-500
File:ATR_72-600_-_50505204912.jpg|72-600
File:ATR_42-600.jpg|42-600
File:ATR_72-600F_(FREIGHTER).jpg|72-600F
The current ones with the aircraft comparison should be moved to the Products section  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fabien Garcia at ATR Aircraft (talk • contribs) 14:57, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello Fabien, the point here is to show the difference between both models. The most obvious difference between both is the length, and to be able to compare their length, the most useful way is to present both sideway at the same scale. It is possible to change the variant (although there is no external difference between older and newer variants, except propeller blade number which does not show sideways anyway), there are many pictures available in commons: :commons:ATR_72 and :commons:ATR_42. I used the newer pictures to illustrate the ongoing #History section.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 07:58, 23 October 2020 (UTC)

text: Pictures are replaced then. But in the historical order, the 1984 ATR 42 first flight, and the 1989 ATR 72 first flight are before the -600 series announcement in 2007. Note there should be a space between numbers and units (a non-breakable space to avoid line breaks between them), and conversion templates automatically add them along imperial conversions.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 13:40, 26 October 2020 (UTC)

text: I have reverted the images as we dont really used made up images and renders when real images are clearly available. I have also added a warning on User:Fabien Garcia at ATR Aircraft talk page as they have clearly a conflict of interest and as such should not be editing the articles. They are welcome to make suggestion on the talk page. Thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 13:43, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I disagree, rendered images are useful as they are controlled and can be less distracting and more comparable, and are often used, see :Commons:Category:Aircraft profile drawings.--Marc Lacoste (talk) 17:42, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images