Talk:Cult image

message: so why is there a seperate section for it? Terrasidius (talk) 18:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because Christianity has a complex history of accepting idols/"icons", in direct contrast to all the other Abrahamic religions SOW93 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 04:34, 8 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It should still be treated as a section on the Abrahamic religions or the Judaic and Muslim sections split out. — LlywelynII 13:59, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

text: All of the Abrahamic material should be compressed into a WP:SUMMARY of Idolatry, with  at the top of it. Otherwise this is going to turn into a WP:POV fork to present alternative views of idolatry in Abrahamic religions.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  13:16, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Christianity is one of the three Abrahamic religions

message: It's surprising how little there is outside the Abrahamic, given how pervasive this is in world religions. Why is that? And how is it particularly relevant/part of christianity? 66.170.243.1 (talk) 17:01, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Because most of the editing goes on at idolatry. — LlywelynII 13:58, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: In turn because the scopes of these articles have been confused.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  13:28, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Where's the non-Western?

message: An idol is worship, a cult image can be worshipped or venerated.Rafaelosornio (talk) 17:59, 16 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: In English, those concepts are synonyms, so try again. Other editors just won't split those hairs precisely as you do. Further note that almost all of the content at cult image is precisely the former content at idolatry, shunted there by an editor pushing an openly  . Further note that the   name of this topic is "idol", a point the original editor noted and simply ignored. The whole fork was a misguided exercise in oikophobia and should be fixed sooner better than later. — LlywelynII 13:58, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually he is right; they are only full synonyms if you are a very bigoted Evangelical, Muslim etc. Johnbod (talk) 14:25, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. They are synonyms and only fail to be if you are oikophobic and believe the English language to be bigoted by default. (Surely you were joking that Thesaurus.com is a Pentecostal front organization.) Idol is not restricted to a pejorative sense and is (as documented at Idolatry's talk page) by far the  name for these items in neutral contexts as well. As demonstrated at Idolatry's talk page, your gut feeling on this topic is simply incorrect and even major museums use "idol" more often than they use "cult image". (Of course, the preferred usage is truly neutral terms like "statue of an Assyrian god", "figure of a seated Sakyamuni Buddha", &c.) This page is currently a , until the article at idolatry is edited to restrict it to only discussing the pejorative aspects of idolatry.I get that you feel the term is tainted: but actual editors keep turning idolatry into a neutral article instead of feeling that it's discriminatory against their beliefs. You should stop being offended on their behalf or creating distinctions that simply don't exist in English as it is spoken. — LlywelynII 13:54, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

text: Rafaelosornio's point is valid, even if not expressed clearly in anthropological jargon.  The present name of this article is unduly limiting the scope to what certain editors want to talk about.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  13:17, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: An idol is not the same as a cult image

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