Talk:Souterrain

message: :Extracting the anonymous insertions for a closer look:
:*(No the earliest souterrains are dated to the later Bronze Age are [sic] in the Northern Isles of Scotland)
::→No citation.  However, this may be one item worth looking into further.
:*(No it literally simply means "underground")
::→Casell's French Dictionary: Souterrain, masculine noun, underground vault or cavern. 
:*(No- not proven for every example)
::→No citation, no dates.
:*(Wrong again - several of the excavated Orcadian examples contained human remains ... )
::→No citation, no dates.
:*(No not always- as mentioned above- the Northern Isles examples predate the Middle Iron Age Broch period)
::→Idle carping, "may be" did not mean "always" in any case.
  
:All in all, not very helpful.  (A comparison of contribs suggests that 194.35.219.100, who added the parenthetical criticisms to the article 10:36, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Observations

message: Not merged --Salix (talk): 21:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *Oppose merge. There is certainly some overlap on these articles, but the literature is rather specific as to the names associated with specific sites and correspondingly the generally accepted geographic range of each. The literature is also somewhat specific on design characteristics of each. Why not let the pages evolve on their own? Each page could potentially become very large, given the amount of content available. There is no reason why the alternative terms can't be discussed in each article. It is not up to Wikipedia to make such subtle and historic word uses into a "vanilla" solution, where we kill off one name for posterity. Cheers. Hadrianheugh (talk) 21:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: CommentPaul Bahn's Penguin Dictionary of Archaeology defines Fogou as a souterrain. The article on Fogou gives them a range of northern Europe. You talk about 'the literature', yet it isn't in the article. Could you please let me know what it is? I'd be interested because I haven't seen anything that distinguished between the two terms by design characteristics. Not that that is a reason to have separate articles.--Doug Weller (talk) 21:36, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Late to the party, but I oppose the merger - largely for the reasons given by Hadrianheugh above. The two types of structure are called the different names in the regions that they are found, with very little (no?) overlap. They are not archaeologically identical in any case. Lianachan (talk) 20:49, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Oppose - similar reasons to those already stated.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 15:24, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: Is obviously not Celtic but Cook uses the word souterrain to refer to its subterranean chamber. The word obviously has additional senses to the one focused on in this article and needs (at the very least) a disambiguation page and hatnote. Treatment of the other sense within the article is probably even better, since it's obviously a related sense. — LlywelynII 02:20, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
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