Talk:Marxian economics/Archive 5

message: You will put back the message I sent entitled "Sunray and Hanlon's razor?" or I will!  Even you recognized that it was not personally abuse and you had no absolutely right to remove it.
If you do not put it back on the talk page then I will revert the entire talk page and much valuable information will be temporarily lost because or you.  Hence, you would be given the responsibility of restoring the exchanges which were deleted because of your action.
Watchdog07 18:29, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: On second thought, don't worry about it, Sunray.  My piece appears in the history of the talk page - a place where even your censoring hand can't get to it - and thus constitutes part of the real history of this page.  Any other editors - or outsiders who have no connection to Wikipedia - will be able to find it for themselves.  In due course, you will be able to read all about it outside of Wikipedia. There's no reason for me to stress: the public will be informed of what has happened on this page and elsewhere on Wikipedia. Watchdog07 20:16, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: '''WARNING TO SUNRAY! THERE WILL BE NO CENSORSHIP ON THE TALK PAGE'''

message: Someone recently changed the article without obtaining consensus, or even discussing the changes on this talk page.  The person doesn't seem to be Watchdog07.  I am assuming that the change was made in good faith, and that this person was unaware that we have agreed to make changes to the article only if there's consensus.  But the article now includes the term N__ O__ M__ in an unbalanced way that impugns the integrity of TSSI research and proponents of the TSSI, in violation of WP:BLP and WP:NPOV.
Can someone do something about this, please?  
andrew-the-k 21:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: '''Article Changed Without Consensus!'''

message: Hi.  Welcome to the Marxian economics talk page. I briefly looked over your contributions and see that you have had an interest in articles on some similar subjects.  
I don't think you need to justify your edit to anyone - especially Watchdog07.  I would like to engage you in a discussion about how the article can be improved so that it conforms to WP:NPV.  I would have liked to do that with some others on this page, but they had different agendas.  I think if we just try to use a little common sense, follow the guidelines on neutrality, be aware of issues relating to living persons WP:BLP, and remember that this is an encyclopedia then we should be able to resolve this dispute. Watchdog07 01:57, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Welcome, Ryan! 

message: Is this article currently under formal mediation by an administrator? The section in question seems patently non-neutral to me, and so I would not be the person to do this. ⟳ausa کui × 08:00, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it is not under formal mediation. However, several editors of this page (five in number) have agreed to follow WP policies and work on the issues identifited (above), attempting to achieve consensus and fix the article. Sunray 17:17, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mediation? 

message: SANITY, AT LAST!  OF COURSE, THE ARTICLE IS PATENTLY NON-NEUTRAL.  IT'S NOT EVEN A CLOSE CALL.  IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE TO BEING A CLOSE CALL. THE MOST OFFENSIVE PART OF THE ARTICLE IS ABOUT AS FAR AWAY FROM THE STANDARDS EXPECTED OF AN ENCYCLOPEDIA AS ONE CAN GET! IT IS ALSO PATENTLY AND OBVIOUSLY NON-NEUTRAL AND IN VIOLATION OF WP:BLP.  YET, SUNRAY AND CO. HAVE REFUSED TO RECOGNIZE WHAT SHOULD BE OBVIOUS TO ANY INDEPENDENT READER OF WIKIPEDIA AND THE URGENCY INVOLVED IN REVERTING THE CURRENT VERSION. Watchdog07 12:45, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that your tone is especially helpful or civil. Please keep your cool in your interactions with other users. Thanks. ⟳ausa کui × 03:53, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''FINALMENTE!'''