Talk:WGBH-TV

message: There are some odd discreps in this article, I'd like them corrected, but as a long-time employee of WGBH am I disallowed from editing the article on grounds of conflict of interests?   e.g. - Two differing dates are given for the fire at the Mass Ave studios...  Either the story is more complex than I know, or someone's mistaken.  Emyth 21:29, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
*Anyone can edit, the relation you may have to the subject doesn't matter. Everyone is encouraged and welcomed to help out. :-) - Evil saltine 10:45, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Discrepencies

message: This historic concept needs its own webpage and needs to be revived.
text stolen from another website describing 2-mobile; more information needed, :
The 2-Toy’s thematic parent was a ten-foot-high, plywood “2-MOBILE” bolted to an old Volkswagen chassis. The 2-Mobile ran fitfully, was unstable in the slightest cross-wind, and was a challenge to drive, but we did so anyway, and with great enthusiasm. The idea was to drive it through suburban communities “from the Cape to Route 128 and back to our studios by August 31st” while a large, lighted in-studio map charted progress during “the countdown to the end of our fiscal year.” In each community, volunteers organized grip-and-grin photos with local poohbahs while supporters of our children’s programs lined up, we hoped, with contributions envelopes while remote crews taped the fun. While all this was going on, we offered 2-Toys on-air.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.76.107.91 (talk) 19:14, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Channel 2-Mobile 

message: IMHO, this article needs to be split into separate WGBH (FM) and WGBH-TV/WGBX-TV articles.  While the history may be shared, very little about the programming is.  Right now the article title is correct for the FM, but the contents are mostly about TV.  121a0012 02:39, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
:If there is a lot more information on WGBH-FM, I would disagree about splitting the article. Instead, one could rewrite the introduction to better reflect the fact that the article is on both the TV and radio stations. Also, one could write separate sections devoted to each station (see the article KQED for an example). Pentawing 03:33, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, without a doubt --wpktsfs 22:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting article 

message: The seven-second theme for WGBH is still the same, why do you still keep the old WGBH music theme for synthesizer and who composed the theme for the ID?
:We aren't them, how do we know? --Wcquidditch | Talk 18:57, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably (W)GBH loves how they made their logo music. Chiagozie Elobuike (talk) 15:07, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  WGBH's music theme 

message: What the hell is that supposed to mean? --   11:59, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a typo. --Wcquidditch | Talk 19:00, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it was referring to the direction in which the outline-2 logo moved at the very end of the clip.  The copy expaining this in nauseating detail was stuffed into a comment, but I've exhumed it here.  Cause I'm a fan, too.--Baylink (talk) 01:18, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The sign-off was similar to the sign-off, but in reverse." 

message: The intro really needs some attention. It says 
:WGBH is an established public television station for Boston, Massachusetts, which is a member of public radio networks (PBS, and NPR and PRI). 
Does anyone else see a problem here? That an "established ... television" station is a member of "radio networks"? And that PBS is not a radio network and that PRI is not an organization with "member" stations?  And that there is no mention of the production and distribution that WGBH does on its own of both television and radio programming? I started to reword this, but dropped it as it will take longer than I have to deal with it right now. (OK, so the next sentence does mention the TV productions, but still, the first sentence just seems inadequate in so many ways.) older≠wiser 01:24, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problems 

message: I know WGBY gets a little mention in this article, but I feel as though it should get its own article. What do you think? JB82 { !@? } 03:46, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  An article about WGBY? 

message: This article is about WGBH-TV/FM in Boston too. This article has more national content and programming and its missing its great local programming which is totally missing. Programs such as Greater Boston, La Plaza, Basic Black and its Eye on Education. None of the mentioned programs are not even on the article. I might have a slant to this, but I highly respect the local programming from WGBH that can't be viewed outside the fifth largest televison market in the country and these programs cannot be found nationally on PBS.... Steven312 01:17, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Local programming? 

message: Most articles that are initialisms state what the initials stand for.  Perhaps I am mistaken in that WGBH isn't an initialism, or perhaps the answer is already mentioned and I have missed it; however one of the first things and initialism article should state, surely, is what the initials stand for - no ?   —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.103.205.80 (talk • contribs) .
:Well, okay. It's in the info box and was mentioned under callsign history, but I took a look at what was written there and it's not as clear as it could be. The answer is Great Blue Hill (from the original location of the transmitter in Milton). Hope that fixes the problem. Haikupoet 06:36, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is, in even my opinion, an exceedingly nit picky point.  :-)  WGBH doesn't actually *abbreviate* anything, and therefore, isn't an initialism in the strictest sense of the words, in much the same way that most things people call acronyms aren't, because they aren't *words* (yet).  (And thanks for getting it right.)  It is often the case that ownerships pick callsigns because the "inspire" thoughts of specific local or station features or branding, but I'm not sure I think that's strong enough to qualify callsigns as initialisms.  That said, I do agree the explanation should be in there, as it is, as long as it's characterized properly.--Baylink (talk) 01:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  A glaring omission ? 

message: Okay, this is User:DanCBJMS, however, I haven't logged in yet.  Referring to the CANCOM satellite linkup comment - I would assume that since CANCOM is owned by the Shaw Cable company, would that mean that the CANCOM service would be applicable only to subscribers of StarChoice?  This question is because there is a "PBS East" mentioned on the Bell ExpressVu website, but when I go onto Lyngsat.com WGBH-2 (NOT WGBH-44, I wonder why) is mentioned as being on one of Bell Canada's Nimiq satellites (I think it's Nimiq-2, I could be wrong).  This could theoretically make me infer that WGBH IS the PBS East of ExpressVu.
Also, in support of the opposition mentioned above - I oppose splitting it off entirely yet.  The reasoning is because WGBH TV and Radio are SO interlinked by the Foundation that it would be hard to do so.  Now, if WGBH decided to take over all New England NPR and PBS stations and called itself the "Broadcasting Corporation of New England" or something to that regard, then yes I'd support splitting it off, but for the time being, no.  Even WCAI/WZAI/WNAN is mention in WGBH's radio schedules, and occasionally spots for Cape and Islands NPR can be heard on WGBH 89.7/WNCK 89.5, especially in the summertime.  The only thing I can see on the WGBY website that would "separate" it from WGBH is that the WGBY website lacks a "history", which is odd, I think.  -134.117.168.232 20:44, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding the CANCOM satellite linkup. 

message: I've seen the name "WGBH Boston" appear as a co-producer on a number of BBC programmes, and always wondered what it was. I see from the article the "GBH" stands for Great Blue Hills, but what does the "W" stand for? 172.207.73.64 12:33, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing.  See North American call sign.  121a0012 02:02, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  W? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Wgbx44.gif

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Wgbh2.gif

message: OF all the WGBH-produced programs listed, why wasn't "Last Chance Garage" included?...this was back in the days BEFORE Tom and Ray Magliozzi(aka "Click and Clack") were household names on NPR.
"Last Chance Garage" was hosted by a Boston-area mechanic named Brad Sears, and there was the official "companion" book that went with it during the second season(now WAAAY long out-of-print). The show was on PBS(through WGBH) for at least five years(from 1981-86).
Please add this excellent show to the official program list.
Thanks,Baldwin91006 02:06, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last Chance Garage:A glaring ommission 

message: Why are the digital channel numbers for wgbh and wgbx listed as 19 and 43 respectively? As far as I know they're still 2 and 44. WGBH's website makes no reference to different numbers for digital signals. I also have not been able to find any reference to them elsewhere online.--129.64.174.30 (talk) 02:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Go to the FCC's Common Database System search page and plug in "WGBH-TV" under callsign.  The digital channel is listed at the bottom of the station information box.  The FCC requires that stations PSIP with their analog channel number (even for those stations which will be remaining on different channels after 2009, as with nearly all Boston stations).  121a0012 (talk) 06:44, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So if station are forced to PSIP their original analog channel number what's the point of bothering metnion the digital channel number?--129.64.228.125 (talk) 15:04, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is relevant to those who want to buy the right antenna or filter in order to receive (or not receive) the digital signal, and for those who are interested in broadcasting technology.  121a0012 (talk) 01:02, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Apologies for being slightly off-topic, but all the aforementioned about PSIP etc., does this mean that even though GBH will be on digital channel 19 or whatever, I still tune my television to channel 2 on February 17, 2009? (Yeah, I'm slightly retarded on these kinds of issues...)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raj Fra (talk • contribs) 02:47, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, unless you have one of the first-generation digital tuners that did not implement PSIP in this way.  In some cases, it may be necessary to tune the receiver to channel 19 first in order for it to know that channel 2 broadcasts there (but most non-cable consumers will have used the "auto-set" function of their receiver to locate all local digital channels).  121a0012 (talk) 05:19, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Digital Channel Numbers 

message: The other WGBH stations have their own articles now. The current article should be moved to WGBH-TV, and afterward, the space titled WGBH (without any suffix) should become a disambiguation page. New World Man (talk) 00:55, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As WGBH is an unlicensed station, unless the station refers to itself as "WGBH-TV", it should be located at WGBH (TV). JPG-GR (talk) 03:23, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: WGBH-TV is a licensed station. Look at the FCC record at http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/tvq?call=WGBH and you'll see that it does have a -TV suffix. New World Man (talk) 03:27, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, crap, must've typoed. Sorry. JPG-GR (talk) 05:01, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

text: The organization is one, though, so while it might be appropriate to have separate articles for WGBH-TV and WGBH radio, the main article including history, callsign, station, most of this article, belongs at WGBH. —Centrx→talk • 04:16, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for move 

message: OK, so the current site mentions a Hyannis translator - however, I remember that there were more translators than that.  Could someone put up a complete list of the former translators of WBGH-TV? --Daniel Blanchette 21:54, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translators/Rebroadcasters of WGBH 

message: I remember outside the Grossmans in Alston there used to be a big light-blue building that always had trash trucks going in and out of it...  It had the big--- sign "BFI".  What I can't remember is did that building stretch as far down as their present locations along the turnpike there?  CaribDigita (talk) 05:08, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did BFI use to occupy the spot? 

message: Hi,
I'm a WGBH employee, and would like to help clean up the WGBH-TV article, since I have access to most/all of the details in question in the article. 
For starters, I can provide info verifying WGBH's media access history. What's the best way to verify/update facts without problems around COI? I'm happy to contribute facts for some sort of approval ahead of time, to avoid having them deleted later. 
Here's the current language:
WGBH is also considered a leader in accessible media services for people who are deaf, hard-of-hearing, blind, or visually impaired. WGBH invented[citation needed] television closed captioning[citation needed], audio description[citation needed] (Descriptive Video Service), and created the Rear Window Captioning System for films[citation needed]; they provide these access services to commercial and public TV producers, and to home video, Web sites, and movie theaters nationwide.
How should I go about contributing the citations needed above?
Thanks in advance.
Daisykin (talk) 15:39, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  WGBH Media Access Group 

message: Even WGBH's co-productions with, say, the BBC, are costly, and its budget must be a high multiple of most other PBS stations, even WNET. So where does the money come from? Does the station, for instance, have exclusive DVD/other media rights to distribution of its coproductions, which are then advertized on local PBS stations? Has the arrival of BBC America impacted any of this? Janko (talk) 08:40, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That's an interesting question. I'd like to see some concrete figures, but so far as all the programs they produce is concerned, the other PBS stations that broadcast WGBH's programs pay for some (and probably most) of the cost. This is how PBS and NPR work in general when it comes to nationally broadcast content from member stations. Bostoner (talk) 22:01, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production Funding? 

message: "WGBH-TV's digital service operates on channel 19 from the same tower, with 700 kW average ERP from a panel antenna 374 meters AAT" http://www.bostonradio.org/stations/72099 (Updated: 2005-03-27)
What is a "panel antenna"?  What is the antenna polarization of this signal?  Please add a photo of the transmitter tower and the actual antenna to the article.  What are the physical dimensions of the antenna?
The new digital OTA TV signal is very difficult to receive in the Boston urban area.  Is there any data about this?  The problem seems to be signal quality, more than signal strength.  Multi-path problems?  Seems particularly bad on windy days, or when an airplane passes by.
The channel 19 digital signal seemed sometimes usable in 2009, but mostly much worse (no reception) in 2010.  What changed, and why?  Are they doing experiments with the transmitter/signal?  Is there any public source of information about this?
What special antennas are available for successfully receiving the WGBH channel 19 digital signal in Boston? -96.233.30.113 (talk) 12:48, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antenna 

message: The article is vague and confused about 2.2. Previously, it broadcast a 480i SD version of 2.1 HD. Some time in April 2012 it started broadcasting a copy of 480i 44.2 "WGBH World" instead. The only difference seems to be that the 44.2 subchannel is fixed-bandwidth. 2.2 is currently variable-bandwidth, averaging slightly more than 44.2; 2.1 and 2.2 seem to both be variable, sharing a fixed bandwidth channel 19 together.
I can't access this, but maybe it contains useful info:
* "WGBH World moves to channel 2.2 - Radio-Info.com Discussion 
:boards.radio-info.com/smf/index.php?topic=210042.0
:Radio-Info.com Discussion Boards. Login, April 07, 2012, 04:18:58 .... Author, Topic: WGBH World moves to channel 2.2 (Read 5 times). ssetta. rimember."
When did 2.2 change? Why did it change? Is this connected to the ongoing broadcast antenna issues this month? Is this change temporary?-96.237.1.158 (talk) 13:09, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Channel 2.2 

message: WGBH/WGBX seems to have no public broadcast status page. They seem to hide related information on their "Contact us" page. When there is a problem with the broadcast antenna, they will sometimes put a note there about it. After a while, these notes disappear. There seems to be no public archive of this information.-96.237.4.73 (talk) 20:36, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I have also noticed this pattern of behavior, which is contrary to the traditions of openness and transparency in public service organizations. While rare, there have been both brief and extended outages of various GBH services.  It is difficult to find out what happened either during or after outages, and a public record of these gaps in service does not seem to be available. This Wikipedia Talkpage seems to have the best record I have seen to date. Reify-tech (talk) 19:13, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broadcast status 

message: One evening late in January 2013 (Jan 25?) the fiber optic connection from the studios to the antenna site was broken, and WGBH/WGBX broadcast ceased for a few hours. This may have also affected some cable customers. A note was eventually posted on their "contact us" page, and removed within a few days.-96.237.4.73 (talk) 20:38, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  January 2013 broadcast outage 

message: The 1972 indent used to give me nightmares. Thank GOD the logo changed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.29.48.111 (talk) 23:08, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  1972 

message: Once upon a time when I was a child, I remember visiting the Museum of Science and there was a TV studio in the basement. Being the curious person that I was (and that I still am), I loved to touch and play with electronic stuff. I tried to play with some of the equipment and someone got mad at me and told me that I should not be playing with the electronics because that facility was the WGBH TV Studio. Do any of you know if WGBH spent time in the basement of the Museum of Science after their studio fire in Cambridge? Thank you. Allyn (talk) 20:18, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I have heard of this temporary studio arrangement, but have not found documentation of it yet.  Reify-tech (talk) 19:13, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  WGBH TV Studios in Basement of Museum of Science Sometime In The 1960s 

message: * www.wgbh.org/about/contact.cfm
: TRANSMISSION TOWER UPDATE - 10/24/16
: On Saturday, October 22, there was a failure in the combined transmission antenna at the Needham tower site that affected over-air service for WGBX 44—our multicast services Create and Kids—as well as WBZ, WCVB, and WSBK, which all share the upper master antenna.  Crews have been on the tower since Sunday assessing the situation.
: While WGBH 2, which occupies the lower master antenna, was not directly impacted, its signal was temporarily off the air on Monday so the tower crews would not be exposed to its RF radiation.
: As the diagnostic work continues, we have collaborated with the tower owner and the other stations that share the upper antenna, to move WGBX 44, WBZ, WCVB, and WSBK to the lower antenna position occupied by WGBH 2.  This move has allowed all of those services to get back on the air.  And WGBH is now broadcasting on an auxiliary antenna at lower power. 
: On Tuesday we expect a new set of auxiliary antennas to arrive at the tower to be installed temporarily, and all channels will be moved to them for the duration of the repair work.
-71.174.177.165 (talk) 02:25, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broadcast outage October 2016 

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message: Text should be added about the new studio in the main branch of the Boston Public Library.  Citations should be easy to find.  — Lentower (talk) 15:28, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added coverage of the new Back Bay studio, as part of an expansion and updating of the article.  Reify-tech (talk) 19:13, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add new studio at the Boston Public Library 

message: I'm trying to  figure out what just happened with the FCC repack. Digging out an old DTV converter box that displays OTA rf, virtual, and call sign data it looks like the following is true
WGBH-HD 2.1 is the "first" virtual channel, 1080 aka HD, on RF 5
WGBX-HD 44.1 is the "second" virtual channel, HD, on RF 5
World 2.2 is the nth virtual channel, 720 aka SD, on RF 32
WGBH-SD 2.3 is the nth virtual channel, 720 aka SD, on RF 32
WGBX-SD 44.2 is the nth virtual channel, 720 aka SD, on RF 32
Create 44.3 is the nth virtual channel, 720 aka SD, on RF 32
Kids 44.4 is the nth virtual channel, 720 aka SD, on RF 32
WYCN-CD 15.1 is the 1st??? virtual channel, 1080 aka HD, on RF 32
Cozi 15.2 is the nth virtual channel, 720 aka SD, on RF 32
Yep, 7 virtual channels on RF 32.
I tried to find the FCC docs, but its document templates do not reflect the technical strategy for channel sharing, etc.
The above is "documented" by the OTA encoding as displayed by my 2008 era channel master DTV converter.
Note this reflects the strategy for the incompatible DTV v3 roll out, so figuring out wikipedia templates to handle the multiple RF frequencies for a single broadcaster like WGBH and the multiple broadcasters on a single RF channel will only increase.
This note applies to WGBX, and the Boston NBC OTA situation using multiple transmitters at multiple sites, owned by multiple corporations as ripple effect from yanking NBC franchise from WHDH. WHDH "owns" RF which will be important in future DTV channel sharing in my opinion. Mulp (talk) 20:48, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  FCC repack, channel sharing, and other issues Aug 2019 

message: Request for edit: WGBH's signal is no longer available in Canada. Therefore, this entire paragraph could be stricken:
Under an agreement with Shaw Broadcast Services, WGBH-TV operates a satellite uplink facility at the station's Needham transmitter site. The facility relays the signals of WGBH-TV and four other Boston-area television stations (CBS owned-and-operated station WBZ-TV, ABC affiliate WCVB, NBC owned-and-operated station WBTS-CD, and Fox affiliate WFXT) to cable and satellite television providers across Atlantic Canada, and also relays the signal of MyNetworkTV affiliate WSBK to pay television providers throughout Canada. As a Canadian company, Shaw is not legally entitled to operate an uplink facility in the United States; as such, the company pays the WGBH Educational Foundation to perform this service on Shaw's behalf.— Preceding unsigned comment added by  Code2396 (talk • contribs) 13:33, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It's my understanding that cable operator Eastlink still offers WGBH in the Halifax, Nova Scotia area and potentially other parts of Atlantic Canada – Eastlink's website doesn't provide region-specific affiliate information anymore but it's listed as being on Eastlink's Halifax lineup on Zap2It and TVPassport. Even if it is no longer offered by Eastlink, IMHO it's still pertinent to note it was available in Canada in the past (there are similar notes in the articles for other American stations like WTOL). — stickguy (:^›)— || talk || 21:30, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  WGBH & Canada 

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thread_title:  "[[:WGBH in Boston]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: An IP editor has repeatedly deleted the section describing the programming schedule, complaining that it is "generic". While it is not horribly dissimilar to the typical PBS station, this is still information of interest regarding the station. Given that just one editor has moved for this deletion and thus far three different editors have restored it, I am going to restore it again as there is sufficient sign of a working consensus for it. I invite the IP editor to come here and make their concerns known, and remind them to reach consensus for deletion before re-deleting it. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 15:09, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Said IP is now blocked for a week, so we are unlikely to hear anything quickly. -- Nat Gertler (talk) 20:14, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  generic complaint