Talk:Alizée/Review

message: Typically, the lead:
:L1: is from two to three paragraphs long;
:L2: covers all of the major aspects of the subject, and might include content related to all of the primary sections of the article body, including biographical information, musical style, legacy, influences, sales, and other achievements;
:L3: indicates some or all of the ways in which the performers are notable, and should document the ways in which the performers satisfy one or more of the WP:MUSIC criteria; and
:L4: includes a free-use image on the right-hand side that is representative of the topic.
An article is generally considered to pass this category when it is of appropriate length and summarizes the article contents, which includes establishing the most notable aspects of the topic.
===Review===
:Well, at least L4 is done. :-) --soUmyaSch 14:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Notability (L3) is asserted already, isn't it? --soumসৌমোyasch 18:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead 

message: :Well, at least L4 is done. :-) --soUmyaSch 14:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Notability (L3) is asserted already, isn't it? --soumসৌমোyasch 18:08, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Review

message: :P1: The article should have several freely usable images, all of which must be clearly tagged with appropriate documentation on each info page.
:P2: The article should have few or no fair-use images, which, if used, must include rationales on their info pages for the specific use on the article in question.
:P3: Images should document notable aspects of the topic.
:P4: Images should have captions that provide useful information.
An article is generally considered to pass this category when it has several pictures with appropriate captions, all of them appropriately tagged and with fair use rationales as needed.
===Review===
:We currently have one fair-use image and two screenshots, which are also fair-use image. But in my opinion, screenshots add little to the information disseminated by the article. So i feel use of screenshots be restricted to no more than two or at max three. --soUmyaSch 07:11, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, there are no free images of her available whatsoever, which is one of the conditions of permitting fair use. The screenshots are being used to demonstrate a part of her career, so there is not a problem there. Agree with you that we should limit the number of screenshots. jaco♫plane 11:15, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: :We currently have one fair-use image and two screenshots, which are also fair-use image. But in my opinion, screenshots add little to the information disseminated by the article. So i feel use of screenshots be restricted to no more than two or at max three. --soUmyaSch 07:11, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, there are no free images of her available whatsoever, which is one of the conditions of permitting fair use. The screenshots are being used to demonstrate a part of her career, so there is not a problem there. Agree with you that we should limit the number of screenshots. jaco♫plane 11:15, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Review

message: Sound samples should:
:A1: be in ogg format;
:A2: be appropriately tagged, usually as fair use and with appropriate fair use rationales;
:A3: represent the performers at significant points in their careers;
:A4: have captions that provide useful information; and
:A5: use the standard audio template (template:listen and/or template:multi-listen item).
An article is generally considered to pass this category when it has an appropriate number of sound samples uploaded and properly integrated into the article.
===Review===
*How is appropriate number defined? --soUmyaSch 15:54, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should hold of with audio samples until we've expanded the career section as you've written about above. I don't really like having a seperate audio section. Perhaps it's a good idea to emulate the approach taken in the Mariah Carey article where they've added sound clips to captions in the images. Regarding what is an appropriate number, I don't think we should have more than two clips per album, so perhaps 4? jaco♫plane 11:05, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The idea of merging song samples with pics seems very good. --soUmyaSch 11:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Audio 

message: *How is appropriate number defined? --soUmyaSch 15:54, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should hold of with audio samples until we've expanded the career section as you've written about above. I don't really like having a seperate audio section. Perhaps it's a good idea to emulate the approach taken in the Mariah Carey article where they've added sound clips to captions in the images. Regarding what is an appropriate number, I don't think we should have more than two clips per album, so perhaps 4? jaco♫plane 11:05, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The idea of merging song samples with pics seems very good. --soUmyaSch 11:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Review

message: Typically:
:R1: an article cites its sources in a section entitled "References", which is consistently and attractively formatted according to one of the standard systems;
:R2: the references represent all the information in the article;
:R3: appropriate points in an article are cited using inline citations.  The following references should always be cited to a specific source:
::an individual's partaking in illicit activities, such as drug use or violent acts
::an individual's personal reasoning behind important choices, such as leaving a particular record label or breaking up a band
::a performer's influence and musical development;
:R4: references include print sources that represent a variety of viewpoints, that place the performer(s) in an appropriate historical context, and that include any published biographies of the subject.
An article is generally considered to pass this category when it has a properly-formatted "References" section with all sources used to write or confirm the article listed, including print sources, both autobiographical and scholarly and critical in nature, as well as inline citations as needed, in some acceptable and consistent format.
===Review===
*Citations are provided properly in the References section, and the articles has sufficient inline references. And, for R3, Farmer's influence has been aptly covered and cited. The only problem that I see is using sites like Amazon.com as a source, though only quotes have been taken from there. But the references are largely web references. Print sources, as required by R4 is what I dont see. But is it necessary? A web reference is more easily verifiable, imo. --soUmyaSch 07:06, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Our references are quite thorough, although there are one or two in there that I'm not sure of. For example, I don't really think our Amazon reference is entirely appropriate, it would be good if we could find an alternative. jaco♫plane 11:17, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: *Citations are provided properly in the References section, and the articles has sufficient inline references. And, for R3, Farmer's influence has been aptly covered and cited. The only problem that I see is using sites like Amazon.com as a source, though only quotes have been taken from there. But the references are largely web references. Print sources, as required by R4 is what I dont see. But is it necessary? A web reference is more easily verifiable, imo. --soUmyaSch 07:06, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Our references are quite thorough, although there are one or two in there that I'm not sure of. For example, I don't really think our Amazon reference is entirely appropriate, it would be good if we could find an alternative. jaco♫plane 11:17, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Review

message: Typically:
:D1: an article has a "Discography" section, consisting of a simple and clear list of recorded works;
:D2: the discography uses appropriate annotation and in a format that meets with ordinary consensus;
:D3: the discography includes all recorded works; frequently recorded performer(s) has a subarticle, with the main article containing only the normal studio albums and singles, with live albums, compilations and other works on the subarticle (performers who recorded very little may need a reduced or absent discography section); and
:D4: the discography provides one to three relevant, useful facts about each recording, such as record label, chart data and/or year of release.
An article is generally considered to pass this category when the topic's discography is amply comprehensive in the main article in question.
===Review===
*D1, D2, D3 and D4: Yes, this thing is amply covered, including the two studio albums as well as the one live album. Plus each has its own article as well. But I dont think it is long enough as of now to warrant a sub article. This is a section that need not be messed with, IMO. --soUmyaSch 06:59, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Agreed. jaco♫plane 11:17, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discography 

message: *D1, D2, D3 and D4: Yes, this thing is amply covered, including the two studio albums as well as the one live album. Plus each has its own article as well. But I dont think it is long enough as of now to warrant a sub article. This is a section that need not be messed with, IMO. --soUmyaSch 06:59, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Agreed. jaco♫plane 11:17, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Review