Talk:Phantasy Star IV

message: The "List of Phantasy Star IV characters" page redirects to the Phantasy Star IV: The End of the Millennium page now because it was tagged to be moved to a gaming wiki.  It was moved to the Encyclopedia Gamia and can be edited here.  --Cs california 00:25, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: List of Phantasy Star IV characters moved to gaming wiki=

message: What will happen when in 4 years time somebody searches PS4 on wikipedia? 58.170.156.113
signing added by Struway2 (talk) 07:11, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We'll cross that bridge when we come to it, i.e. create a disambig page for "PS4".  For now, there is no other meaning, and so the disambig page doesn't need to exist.  Playstation 4 is still a few years off, yet. Godheval (talk) 14:57, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Playstation 4 Confusion?.jpg

message: I made a number of changes to the article, mostly intended to clean it up.
*Rewrote much of the story section, but kept the important details in tact
*Removed the trivia section and integrated the content into the body of article
*Placed Development History below gameplay, story, and characters, as these three things are probably more significant to people reading the article
*Removed Wai Xing Zhan Shi section and placed the content into the new "Ports and Remakes" section of Development history.  This is for better organization, and also because I do not feel that it deserves its own header section.  It is a pirated and edited version of the game, afterall.
*Added a "Reception" section
*Added section "Series References and Homage to Other Sega Franchises" - where some of the previous trivia section was placed
*Placed a number of sections that were once separate under Development History, since all of that information is related to development history.  I did subdivide it into categories for ease of reading.
*Attempted to remove all of the plot spoilers from the characters and story section, for the sake of those few gamers who may be new to the game.  Wishful thinking that PSO and PSU will garner a new interest in the original series.
I did some other minor things as well that I can't remember, but all for the sake of improving the quality of the article.  Godheval (talk) 16:41, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Major Changes 7/22/2008

message: I changed the box art originally because I mistaken took the European box art for Japanese somehow - my mistake - and I had been changing to the box art of English versions of the game as this is the English language Wikipedia.  After a needless revert war with Megata Sanshiro, who pointed out my mistake, my new rationale for switching to the U.S. box art is that it is a higher quality image.  I will not object to the use of the EU box art if a better quality version can be found.  However, at that point, the change might seem spiteful, since either the U.S. or EU box art will suffice for this article. Godheval (talk) 14:20, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion, the EU box art is slightly better in quality when I look at them both. I really don't care whether the EU or US box arts are used as both are an edition of the English language version of this game, but if you say the quality of the US version is higher, then I object. An appeal to you both, please stop this reverting. Leave it as it is.--Fogeltje (talk) 17:43, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Then I think you may be missing something.  The EU box art is replete with JPG dithering all along the left side and in random other spots.  The U.S. version is near crystal clear with no evidence of pixelation or dithering or smudging, as is present in the EU version.  As I said in my edit notes, I have no problem with the EU version being used at such a time when a higher quality version is found.  The "revert war", as it were, was started by the other editor, who for no legitimate reason reverted my edit. —GodhevalT C W 13:53, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Box Art Change 

message: SHOULDN'T REDIRECT HERE.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.139.100.201 (talk) 21:01, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And yet it does, and will continue to, until there is something else called "PS4" requiring a disambig page.  Get over it. —GodhevalT C W
The search "PS4" should not redirect here because of the information that I have on the actual video game console. Do you actually think that someone searching for PS4, wants to see the SEGA game? Take a look at the page; you will be interested. My information is official, so it is not fictional, misleading text.  Mike |talk 20:23, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

text: There is no page for a new console by that name, at least none that I could find. So redirecting PS4 here is totally acceptable.--Fogeltje (talk) 22:46, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ps4 

message: I see there has been some minor edit-warring over the spelling of Sega. Manual of Style is pretty clear on this.
"Follow standard English text formatting and capitalization rules even if the trademark owner considers nonstandard formatting "official":
    * avoid: REALTOR®, TIME, KISS
    * instead, use: Realtor, Time, Kiss
Please stop this senseless reverting.--Fogeltje (talk) 22:14, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: SEGA or Sega

message: I modified the blatantly incorrect bit about the cover art but it's still pretty much original research. (even if that research is as obvious as taking a single look at http://www.gamefaqs.com/console/genesis/image/563334.html)
I tried finding a source on it but I figure nobody that's reliable source found it necessary to state the obvious. 145.99.155.53 (talk) 21:30, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Box art

message: What does AW mean?DellTG5 (talk) 21:41, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: An unnecessarily specific detail. Nifboy (talk) 22:59, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''The Game is set AW 2284'' 

message: Per the history mode in Sega Genesis Collection PS4 was notable for its $100 price tag like V.R.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by JasonHockeyGuy (talk • contribs) 07:38, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Price tag notability 

message: I think Masaki Nakagaki should be added (as well as Tokuhiko Uwabo possibly). Well "Bo" has worked on other games, he doesn't play much of a role here, but this is the only one "Gaki Chan" is known to have ever worked on whatsoever, and he contributes almost as much as "Ippo". So I don't think it's right to have merely the latter listed, but unsure if all three should be up. —juunannio 02:12, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Composition 

message: I've just deleted the "Mega-CD version" sub-section from the article. This claim made everything dubious.
However, poor sales and lack of support for the Mega-CD platform caused a change of plans midway through development.
Phantasy Star: The End of the Millennium came out in Japan on December 1993. Sega was still supporting the Mega CD by that point and were released quite a few games for it in 1994 and 1995 (including Shining Force CD). In fact, their second-to-last Mega Drive game in Japan was the CD version of Shadowrun. So yeah, this story sounds like bull. Jonny2x4 (talk) 03:44, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. If anything, poor sales should have been a motivator for Sega to put the game on Sega CD, since the Phantasy Star games are system sellers. It really is a mystery why PS4 was released for the Genesis instead of the Sega CD. Besides the Sega CD's desperate need for more software, Sega had to spend a ton of money on the extra-large cart size, and even then the PS1-style 1st person dungeons had to be cut because there wasn't enough space, both problems which would have been solved by having the game on Sega CD. I'm surprised this article doesn't have an answer to that mystery yet; you'd think a game like Phantasy Star IV would have had more written about it.--Martin IIIa (talk) 13:04, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canceled Sega CD version (possible hoax) 

message: I have reverted editor 86.173.188.58's recent changes to the article. I realize that these changes include the addition of some sourced content; however, they also continue a long-standing tradition of IP address editors editing this article to replace "mixed reviews" with "positive reviews" and falsify the summaries of those reviews, adding in laudatory remarks that do not appear in the reviews and smoothing over or outright removing any criticisms. Note that though I say "IP address editors", these edits are similar enough that they are likely all the work of one editor using different IP addresses. Needless to say, this makes me look upon the addition of respected gaming magazines calling PS4 "undeniably one of the greatest RPGs ever fashioned" with more than a bit of suspicion. I tried to check up on the sources online but had no luck.
86.173.188.58's edit also includes some other unambiguously counter-productive and frankly inexplicable changes, such as falsifying the issue number for the GamePro review and replacing the "ref name" for one source with a name that is much more prone to being reused without being significantly shorter.
In sum, I lack the time and means to sort out which (if any) of 86.173.188.58's changes are worth keeping. If anyone else has access to the cited sources and can confirm or deny the accuracy of the changes, please do so.--Martin IIIa (talk) 20:25, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent revert 

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message: A recent change I made was just reverted, because "many Genesis games get re-released, not lead important". However, many other articles on video games list which platforms the game can be played on. This is helpful info for people interested in trying a new game. Why would we not add it back in? (talk) 21:10, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
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