Talk:Kennesaw, Georgia

message: I'm thinking of reverting the latest set of edits, which removed material citing criminologists who claim there was an increase in Kennesaw's burglary rate. Granted, I think those people are distorting the facts, and all evidence I've found shows that the crime rate is significantly lower, but that's my opinion. The facts are that qualified people haven't agreed on whether the crime rate has dropped, so I think all WP can do is present what experts say in both directions, and then provide facts for the reader to figure it out for themselves. That's the most NPOV way to handle things.
Unless someone can make a convincing counter-argument, I'm going to revert these edits soon. Bigpeteb 17:54, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and the edit about Kennesaw not having a homicide since 1986 is just plain incorrect. That's coming out right now... Bigpeteb 18:35, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latest edits not justified 

message: I believe the entry under the heading of Legacy Park is a corporate plug; Legacy Park is a HOA run community, and has plugged in the Kennesaw article, not only in the wrong section, but with un-cited and opinionated information as well. I believe this section should be removed altogether.  Ecstasis 04:32, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legacy Park entry unfounded. 

message: Read this paragraph:
Gary Kleck, a criminologist and gun-control critic attributes a drop of 89% in the residential burglary rate to the law.[1] Kennesaw is often cited by advocates of gun ownership as evidence that gun ownership deters crime. (see, for instance, this 2004 sheet of talking points from the Gun Owners Foundation). This is obviously highly biased and "cherrypicked" data. Gun Control Critics, of course, do not take into fact you are 43 times more likely to shoot a family member than a criminal, and do not include any data on family gun violence, the majority of the gun violence that occurs. All their data is based on rare violent crimes against individuals from complete strangers. Studies show that kids, even those taught not to touch a gun, cannot resist picking up a gun when they find it and emulating the play they do with toy guns. A preschooler is 17 times more likely to die from an accidental gun wound in a state like Georgia, than in a state that controls their guns. The majority, if not 100%, come from guns in their home or a friend's home.
"obviously", "you are 43 times more likely" "studies show that kids" "a state like Georgia". 
Encyclopedias are boring and factual, that's the sad truth. You can't go on the Hitler page and say "antisemetism is bad" in 10 different ways because it doesn't cite any outside work and it isn't relevant to the facts of who Hitler was. 
If you're ideology is the correct one then the truth should be good enough...document the truths of your ideology with data and put it in a wikipedia article clearly meant to address the facts of gun law efficacy.--Gtg207u 05:28, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur...very little of that paragraph have anything to do with the city, or what the city claims, but is an opinion of the editor. Gun control debates need to be posted in the appropriate areas, not on a page about a city or what a city claims.  Kennesaw itself claims its crime rate is lower (as noted on its website), the statement of the claim itself is a fact, whether or not the information in the claim is factual, is not a fact to be debated on the Kennesaw page. Deltaecho5 (talk) 19:38, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm deleting this 

message: An editor deleted the following for being unresearched and unreferenced:
Noted:  []'s added to denote not referenced quotes.  Also, the above references(ref name="isbn0-472-03162-7")(/ref)(ref name="isbn0-415-17087-7")(/ref) do not address violent crime or crimes other than home burglaries in their long term statistical review and may therefore be inaccurate.
I guess I didn't care much for the presentation of the material which could be improved. The "footnoting" of material just looks funny. Nevertheless, the book clearly addresses the Kennesaw situation head on. And is its own reference. So it should be restored, however removing the funny "explanation" at the top. Student7 (talk) 23:23, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: More gun law editing

message: Ths sentence, "Later research claims that there is no evidence that [the law] reduced the rate of home burglaries [in Kennesaw],[20]"
Whoever added the above line is clearly grasping at straws here.  One, the cited material is not "research" about Kennesaw - it's a book.  Two, opinion pieces don't qualify under wikipdias standards of cited material.". Might as well change his sentence to read "some author wrote a book that suggests the law didn't reduce crime, while there are also authors that have written books tht suggests it does reduce crime."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.194.216.173 (talk) 22:18, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: biased and not up to standards

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