Talk:Zakaria Zubeidi

message: Is it Arna Mer or Orna Mer? She was my neighbour and I clearly remember that her name was Orna. (Drouch 21:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Her name is given as Arna in Arna's Children and in the external link in that article. - Fayenatic (talk) 20:11, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arna Mer 

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thread_title:  Blacklisted Links Found on [[Zakaria Zubeidi]] 

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thread_title:  Blacklisted Links Found on [[Zakaria Zubeidi]] 

message: Noted you flagged the terrorist designation of the Al Aqsa Martyr's Brigade as "POV" despite the multiple international references citing as much. The terrorist designation by multiple countries is also stated on the Wikipedia page specific to the group (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Aqsa_Martyrs%27_Brigades).  This article both discusses the group's multiple terrorist attacks, its terrorist designation by multiple countries, and notes Zakaria Zubeidi's involvement as a local commander.  The article is well-referenced.  Providing the link to Wikipedia's NPOV policy here: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view.  
If you still feel the designation meets criteria for "point of view" despite the citations happy to discuss further.AVR2012 (talk) 04:18, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The US, EU and Canada are not equivalent to the international community. Terrorist is often a loaded term and we all know the mantra "one person's terrorist is another's freedom fighter". Most Palestinians, I would imagine, do not consider him a terrorist. While it may be acceptable to note in the article that X countries view him or his group as a terrorist outfit, it is unbalanced and undue to emphasize this in the first sentence of the article. The balanced version would call simply him something along the lines of "the commander of the Aqsa Martyrs Brigades, a militant group, in Jenin" or some other neutral phrasing. Al Ameer (talk) 04:32, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

text: The place for exhaustive sourcing on the precise designation of the Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades is on the dedicated article for that organisation. But please be aware that all of these designations are from before 2007, when the group was essentially undesignated under an amnesty deal approved of by Israel, which delisted the organisation's former members from its wanted lists. Iskandar323 (talk) 09:57, 14 September 2021 (UTC)

text: Agree, this designation is relevant. 11Fox11 (talk) 08:26, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Al Aqsa Martyr's Brigade terrorist designation/Zakaria Zubeidi article 

message: please change ((Israeli)) to ((Israel))i 98.239.227.65 (talk) 14:48, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: No reason not to link to a perfectly fine redirect. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:07, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: There are actually two good reason to do this - the first is that his targets were people, the second is that otherwise the link to Israel is repeated. Consider it done. Inf-in MD (talk) 20:49, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Israeli 

message: The lead currently contains false information that misrepresents its source, regarding Zubeidi's amnesty. The cited source says "[Al Aqsa Martyrs Brigades] members have pledged to put away their guns and serve in the official security forces", but the lead misrepresents this and falsely claims "[Zubeidi] handed over his weapons to the Palestinian National Authority as part of an Israeli amnesty in 2007", which is not in the source, and as it turns out, false. A later source shows he never followed through on this pledge: "But he never surrendered his weapons to the Palestinian Authority, saying even then that he did not trust the amnesty agreement and feared for his life."  Inf-in MD (talk) 21:04, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: As the deleted (now restored) npr source makes clear, he did not hand over his weapons, but he did 'put them away', which is in fact consistent with the pledge, which makes no mention of handing them over. Regardless, after three months of non-violence, his abidance with whatever the precise terms of the amnesty were was clearly accepted, as he was pardoned. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:55, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: In the sources provided, there is no indication that he ever agreed to hand over his weapons to the PA. Iskandar323 (talk) 07:58, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: False info in the lead