Talk:Norwegian dialects

message: A table of some sort would help clarify this article greatly I think
Fornadan 03:27, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Table

message: # A lot of Norwegian words are left untranslated. It would help if someone translated them. 
# It looks strange that vi(we) and oss(us) are marked as different words, when they are used in different cases, just as in English. If some dialects are using oss for all cases, the text should make that clear. 
惑乱 分からん 12:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Different comments

message: In the general description of the different dialects inner Sogn og Fjordane and outer Sogn is mentioned, but the Nordfjord and Sunnfjord dialects are not mentioned. Where do they fit? North-West Norwegian, South-West Norwegian or neither? Inge 13:26, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about Nordfjord and Sunnfjord? 

message: Can someone clarify the word "tense" in the following section?  From context I wonder if "emphasis" might be the intended meaning - "tense" usually refers to how the time of an event is marked on a verb, and that doesn't seem to be what's being referred to here:
Syntax can vary greatly between the dialects, and the tense of the sentence is important for the listener to get the meaning. For instance, a question can be formed without the traditional "asking-words" (how, where, what, who..)
ex. the sentence Hvor mye er klokken? (literally: "How much is the clock?") i.e. "What time is it" can be put in the following forms: E klokka mykje? (Is the clock much?) (tense is on "the clock"), E a mytti klokka? (Is she much the clock?) (tense on "is")
--Zeborah 06:48, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Tense" in Syntax section 

message: I don't see any parts of the article that use phonetic notation that is non-IPA. Some of it is unusual (e.g. /øy/ really is /øy/ and not a mis-written /øj/) but it appears to all be authentic. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.33.49.251 (talk) 17:54, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  remove cleanup-ipa tag? 

message: ...what do they speak on Svalbard? Normally, considering the tenuous population and relatively short colonisation history, I would assume that everyone spoke the standard language, but since there isn't really such thing as Standard Norwegian, I just wondered... Steinbach (fka Caesarion) 13:37, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's relatively well known that there is an unproportiately large number of Northern Norwegians in Svalbard compared to the rest of the country. But the national and international migration to and from the islands doesn't, which is large in numbers and diverse in area of origin, makes it so that that accent gains a foothold as a standard, and probably as there dialects with more speakers than Northern Norwegian, there might only be higher proportion of inhabitants from with those dialects, not actually a higher overall figure. I strongly urge anyone with numbers or experiences to come forward and shed some more light on this. - Bjørnar Munkerud, native of mainland Norway, the 23. of June 2013  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:C440:20:1116:2110:C4EA:C39F:C8B2 (talk) 19:50, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maybe a silly question, but... 

message: I assume Bergen Norwegian is a part of western Norwegian. I would like to add the forms "Når, Kortid, Kotid" to the table, under When, and Western Norwegian.
I do however not know how to do that. I tried, but I kept breaking the table. If someone could do it for me, I'd be glad. "Når" and "Kotid" are used in Bergen, and Kortid are used in the surrounding countryside at least.
Sorry, I forgot to sign... :( 84.48.90.55 (talk) 18:07, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done (don't know what you tried; but a '||' without quotation marks indicates a new column). --Harald Khan  Ճ 17:06, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You two be careful about considering how to spell dialectical forms, though, and dont overflow the tables because the occasional oddball has a different pronunciation, either.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.191.217.49 (talk) 19:52, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  About western dialects, and my shitty editing skills 

message: The article talks about so called "radical forms of Oslo dialects". This is a rather strange phrase. What exactly is "radical" here? Actually it is those who conform to the written language who might be said to have a "radical" speech, as this speech is strongly different from what is in fact the traditional form of speech in the area. 
Thus, their form of speech deviates radically from the traditional form of speech in the area and might therefore be considered to be "radical". --Oddeivind (talk) 20:49, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Radical" forms of Oslo dialects 

message: This is a problematic word to translate, unlike "his" or "hers". In Bokmål, the translation is "dets", while in Nynorsk and in many dialects there is no simple translation. Any ideas on how to solve this? --Harald Khan  Ճ 11:35, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possessive pronoun; "its" 

message: Here it says that most Norwegian dialects use an alveolar trill.  However, in Norwegian phonology it says they use an alveolar tap.  Which is it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.104.45.20 (talk) 18:49, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alveolar Trill or Tap 

message: Found hardly any mistake in there, very good research work guys! Even the (usually omitted) bit about Oslo region adopting the uvular r is in, wow! Ever heard of Klovner I Kamp? :) Probably not if you hate hip-hop, but wth. I can still remember this line from their 2000 track I Oslo bys kulisser kan du skimte nattens sønner. You can hear the R sound of this region perfectly in this song. I think it's even rather an /ɾ/ in the Oslo region, because it has got these slight "flapping" characteristics. -andy 217.50.43.11 (talk) 22:32, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think Klovner i kamp (and yes, that's how you capitalise it), is the go-to place for secure information about pronunciation. Both it's members have recent foreign roots, and then there's also internal dialectical and sociolectical differences and generational linguistical change. Secondly, it's common to affect other pronunciations in song (including in rap) in Norwegian as it is in English, usually to make it either easier to sing, easier to understand, or both. - Bjørnar Munkerud, a native of the area, the 23. of June 2013  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:C440:20:1116:2110:C4EA:C39F:C8B2 (talk) 19:43, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good article! 

message: Parts of the former are badly written, not to mention the fact that the whole section lacks inline citations.
For instance, are the first symbols the Old Norse pronunciations?
 >  (probably Old Norse, SEN )
 >  (probably Old Norse; SEN )
 >  (probably Old Norse; SEN )
The same problem is with the following:
 >  (probably Old Norse; SEN )
 >  (probably Old Norse; SEN )
Then there's another problem, namely: are monophthongized Old Norse ,  and  really short? Unless the vowel length is not phonemic in the monophthongizing dialects, this looks somewhat dubious.
Plus, the vocabulary section needs IPA. — Peter238 (v̥ɪˑzɪʔ mɑˑɪ̯ tˢʰoˑk̚ pʰɛˑɪ̯d̥ʒ̊) 22:05, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: 1. Ok, I figured it out. It's all Old Norse. — Peter238 (v̥ɪˑzɪʔ mɑˑɪ̯ tˢʰoˑk̚ pʰɛˑɪ̯d̥ʒ̊) 09:16, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

text: 2. It can be either short or long. — Peter238 (v̥ɪˑzɪʔ mɑˑɪ̯ tˢʰoˑk̚ pʰɛˑɪ̯d̥ʒ̊) 09:56, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Norwegian dialects#Pronunciation of vowels|Pronunciation of vowels]] & [[Norwegian dialects#Vocabulary|vocabulary]] sections