Talk:List of The Price Is Right pricing games

message: Sottolacqua — In your edit summary, you explain the reason for reverting a recent edit of mine re: Finish Line as "The goal is identical (to Give or Keep) but gameplay and presentation is not." OK, how was the gameplay of Finish Line different from Give or Keep? Without making this a forum, I submit to you that they were identical — i.e., shown three sets of prizes, player picks the one he thinks is more expensive, other price announced and (after three questions played) the sum of the rejected items makes up the goal. That's why essentially someone could read "Give or Keep" to get the gist. And I also had the presentation part (standard tallying for Give or Keep, horse racing for Finish Line) as being the main difference between the two. Just trying to be a little efficient here, but I'd sure appreciate an explanation. Thanks! [[Briguy52748 (talk) 19:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The edit you made included a non-standard "see also" reference not used in other articles on Wikipedia. No other description of games within this article that have "identical gameplay" (i.e., Double Prices/Coming or Going/Side by Side, Bonus Game/Shell Game) include this same type of "see also" comment. It's more complicated to direct a reader to another non-linked section of the same article instead of just describing the game. Sottolacqua (talk) 20:03, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. [[Briguy52748 (talk) 12:29, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: "Finish Line" and "Give or Keep"

message: Please try to keep inclusion of trivia (such as the order of pricing game debuts and whether or not parts of the game props flip over, light up, were renovated/added/removed, etc.) and the statement of implied information (such as "missing all four pricing portions guarantees a loss") to a minimum. This article should be about the gameplay of each pricing game and refrain from including miscellaneous/duplicate information. Sottolacqua (talk) 18:33, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Additionally, please keep chronology of gameplay descriptions consistent throughout the article. Each game includes a narrative describing the current gameplay and then goes on to discuss any rule changes. Sottolacqua (talk) 17:30, 30 June 2010 (UTC)

text: Anything you add to an article needs to have a reliable and verifiable source (and not just "I saw this on TV"). And this is a very long article already without adding descriptions of the way the props look and work. Putting unsourced and/or trivial information into the article isn't "improving" it at all. JTRH (talk) 14:43, 17 October 2010 (UTC)

text: If it's unsourced, how can you prove that it's accurate? And what about the article as it exists do you believe to be "inaccurate"? JTRH (talk) 03:09, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia and statements of implied information 

message: Is there currently any PIR-related Wiki-article that mentions the cheating incidents involving Flip-Flop, Shell Game, and 3 Strikes? If not, why not? 108.1.68.63 (talk) 13:02, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Three incidents of cheating are not notable events in 38+ years of television episodes. Sottolacqua (talk) 13:54, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cheating incidents 

message: I don't suppose this would be considered suitable for the article, but I want to at least offer it for consideration:
In the Cover Up game, the first of the five price digits is generally an "obvious" choice. Contestants almost always pick the right digit first time. The SECOND digit is also generally "obvious": car prices are typically low-$20,000's or high-$10,000's; if $20,000's, the second digit choice is usually something like 1, 7, or 9; so 1 is the obvious choice. If $10,000's, as I saw the other day, the choice would be as I saw, 1, 3 or 8; so 8 is obviously correct. Contestants also usually pick this digit correctly the first time. But, a crucial aspect of this game is that guessing may only continue as long as at least one new correct choice is made at each stage. Guessing correctly on the last three digits is mostly a matter of luck, and has low likelihood of success because of the large number of choices. On the first guess, continuation is assured because you know the first 2 digits are correct. After that, one may hope that at least any ONE choice they make is correct, and will allow guessing to continue; but that is risky. (If they had any further digits correct on the first guess, they're closer to the "solution", but that also reduces the number of opportunities -- digits -- to get at least one more right immediately.) A safer strategy in general, but one which contestants almost never employ, and which Drew vaguely alludes to when it IS used, is to "save" one of the first two digits, say, the second digit, for the second guessing-stage, by deliberatley choosing it WRONG on the first guess, and then choosing it correctly on the SECOND stage, to act as a safeguard on that guess, in the event no other digit is chosen correctly; so the SECOND guess is also "safe". And this allows the rest of the digits to be guessed "at risk" with fewer choices remaining, and hence, a better chance of success. 108.1.68.63 (talk) 13:49, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is original research and not info that belongs in this article. It's better suited for a fansite or message board. Sottolacqua (talk) 13:55, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cover-Up strategy 

message: Alright, I promise I won't edit Credit Card and Check Game as being retired anymore, ok, but please answer one question...............  if they aren't retired, then how come neither game got played even once in season 38?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.114.152.116 (talk) 23:25, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That's completely irrelevant. What is relevant is that both games are still listed on the show site as active games. That is the official source. Therefore, you can't source the statement that they're retired. When it changes on the site, you can change it here. JTRH (talk) 23:32, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

text: No, I don't. And neither do you. JTRH (talk) 23:45, 18 September 2010 (UTC)

text: The show's list of games is here: []. If the list changes, go for it. JTRH (talk) 23:56, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Credit Card and Check Game 

message: The Cliff Hangers page does not have enough citations, and I suggest that article be merged into this article. Feel free to leave any replies here.
Lamp301 (talk) 00:42, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge "Cliff Hangers" into this article? 

message: I recall seeing a few times a game where the contestant had to put professional sports season ticket packages in price order.  I *think* they were the Lakers, Dodgers, Rams, and Kings.  The four main professional sports.  And of course baseball was always first and football last, because of the number of games.  I believe the contestant had three chances to pull a handle to see if they were in the correct order.
148.150.30.3 (talk) 19:16, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you're thinking of Race Game, which is covered here. It's timed, not based on a number of chances. JTRH (talk) 19:23, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There was no such game. You must have it partially confused with Race Game. WikiLubber (talk) 19:24, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing game? 

message: The result of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Plinko (3rd nomination) was keep.  However, the AfD is not a substitute tool for merger discussions as discussed.  We shall continue the merger proposal here.  Everybody says "Plinko" when The Price Is Right comes up; the inactive rules are not still cited.  Therefore, I'm not certain if the article will hold on any longer.  --Gh87 (talk) 00:03, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: What "changes" to the rules have there been, other than that the value of the top slot has doubled, and the Doug Davidson version used higher-lower rather than "which digit is correct?" JTRH (talk) 13:25, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: Shall we call them "retired" or "inactive"? --George Ho (talk) 18:28, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Retired games" or "Inactive games" 

message: The "Inactive games" section has been fact-tagged for 18 months. I renamed the "Retired games" section as "Inactive games" and moved Card Game and Credit Card to that section. 
Additionally, the show's official site detailing games does not include pages for the following games:
*Five Price Tags
*Grand Game
*Make Your Move
*One Right Price
There are two titles/pictures for One Away, but the second one actually links to One Wrong Price. I've relocated the four games listed above to the Inactive games section.
Please do not relocate any of these games to the Active games section without providing a source. Once the new season starts on 26 September 2013, if a game currently listed as inactive is played on-air, relocate that game to the Active games section and use Template:Cite episode to add a reference with the airdate and episode number. The airdate and episode number to be included can be found on the official site. AldezD (talk) 13:14, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved Five Price Tags, Grand Game and Make Your Move to Active games per updates to the official site today. AldezD (talk) 12:42, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inactive games 

message: This wasn't a game, per se, but it was when a TV audience member would win the same prize if the contestant won it. Check out the first episode with Bob's new, natural hair color (1987): [Removed WP:LINKVIO RJaguar3 | u | t 03:41, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have sourced info to add, this might be more appropriate in a subsection rather than added to each individual game, or possibly added to the The Price Is Right (U.S. game show)#Pricing games section in the parent article. AldezD (talk) 13:09, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Play Along" 

message: Step Up has been removed from the official site's list of games. Additionally, the game has not been played since 17 October 2014 Due to the length of time since the last playing, and because it has been removed from the official site (which meets WP:V), the game has been moved to the Inactive games section. If other editors have a source that meets WP:V which contradicts its omission from the official site and states the game will be played in the future, please include that reference when moving the game back to the Active games section.
Regarding Vend-O-Price, the game was first played on episode 7215K which aired 25 September 2015. Template:Cite episode has been added to the game's description for the first playing. Although the game is also not listed on the official site, the game has been played multiple times since its premiere on 25 September, suggesting that it will again be played in the future. AldezD (talk) 13:49, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Vend-o-Price is now on the official site. . AldezD (talk) 04:12, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Step Up, Vend-O-Price and references

message: Four and half years ago, Plinko was merged here...kind of.  The gameplay content is here, while the rest of the content, such as cultural references and controversies, is scattered to the four winds.  I believe this is in error, particularly since Plinko has continued to be culturally referenced in since the 2011 discussion (most notably with "Drinko" on the Fallon show).  I also believe it would be better if all the stuff that's Plinko-related was on the same page.  Plinko can very easily be referenced now, which was one of the original concerns that prompted its merger. pbp 18:02, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: This article currently describes gameplay in an accurate and concise manner. Are List of Jimmy Fallon games and sketches#Drinko and The Price Is Right (U.S. game show)#Plinko board incident enough to warrant a full article? There are definitely other cultural references to the game. But would detailing these two sub-sections and the other cultural references create a good article or an indiscriminate collection of trivia and cruft? AldezD (talk) 18:19, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there'd be more than just the things you've listed...and I also think you're far too quick to call stuff trivia and cruft. pbp 19:00, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split Plinko off again? 

message: To be true, the whole restructuring is not exactly an improvement. Due to the chosen layout the article will become even longer than it already was, without a real benefit. And by now the article has 33 links to disambiguation pages. In fact, those links are links leading to nothing (no article about the game exists) or are circular (redirected to "List of The Price Is Right pricing games"). This is not in the best interest of the article. The Banner talk 09:34, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restructuring by Nicco18 

message: Please stop modifying this article from narrative into a table format. Additionally, there are no sources for the dates added noting the first/last playings of each game. AldezD (talk) 14:52, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I will agree to no sources for dates and a table format. I am looking into finding more sources for the article because it lacks sources. - Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 19:49, 29 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits to table format 

message: Due to the TPIR games being played during Mashup Week on LMAD mentioned here, I feel like the one time they played Plinko should get a mention under Special Rule Changes. For April Fool's Day 2015, Plinko was played for its $50,000 prize. The contestant got 2 chips for free. Wayne, Tiffany, and Jonathan each had an envelope, each containing a slip for 1-3 more chips. The contestant was then given the option of taking a small prize or playing with their accumulated chips.
Chandlerism (talk) 22:05, 20 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Placing this in the Mash-up Week section under the "The following games were exported to Let's Make a Deal" header (and mentioning it was for April Fool's) would be a good place for it. AldezD (talk) 12:32, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plinko on Let's Make a Deal? 

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message: Please stop moving this game from active to retired without providing a WP:V source. Musings on message boards and unverified details do not meet WP:V and should not be the basis of rumors about the game's retirement. The official show's website still lists this game as active. AldezD (talk) 04:28, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magic Number 

message: Please stop changing the name of the game to "Back to XX" or "Back to ...". The game's name is neither of these titles. "Back to '72" appeared in the 2021–2022 season regularly, and once as "Back to '73" in the 2022–2023 season as of January 2023. Please stop changing details without providing WP:V sources, and please stop removing cite templates. AldezD (talk) 17:03, 4 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Back to '72"