Talk:Port Authority of New York and New Jersey

message: Does this qualify as a port district?  I was suprised to find nothing on wikipedia about governments known as the "Port of ___".  Cacophony 05:25, September 7, 2005 
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Hello Cacophony -- The purpose of a port district is to tax within the district to support port financial needs.  The PANYNJ has sufficient resources that it does not need to assess or collect taxes to support its operations. Rhadow (talk) 16:52, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Port district

message: I see no mention of the controversy in the 1950s and 1960s of the increasing powers of the Port Authority.  There was significant public debate about the authority, including whether it should be doing things like the World Trade Center real estate deal.  This article needs significant expansion IMO.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 22:38, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion needed 

message: This article will be put on hold (for 7 days) until these minor adjustments can be made :
:1. Well written? OK Pass
:2. Factually accurate? Pass
:3. Broad in coverage? Pass
:4. Neutral point of view? Pass
:5. Article stability? Pass
:6. Images? Pass
Additional comments :
* :Image:PANYNJ.png doesn't state its fair use rationale.
* The lead section isn't big enough.
* Words such as currently that persent time-dependancy should be avoided. Same for the Current and future projects section.
* is now the fifteenth busiest in the world. on what list?
* The size of the project raised ire from the owner of the Empire State Building, which would lose its title of tallest building in the world. should be associated with a citation.
Lincher 02:27, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think all these issues are addressed.  While other featured articles such as Microsoft do include logos, I'm not sure it's needed here.  So, I commented it out for now.  I think something else symbolic, such as the PA headquarters or some photo that includes a sign would work.  As for the "current and future projects" section, I copyedited it and tried to put it in past tense, as much as possible.  Though, the section is still called "Current and future projects" - don't know what else to call it and think it's best to keep as is.  Being that this is Wikipedia, the section will be updated continuously. --Aude (talk) 22:29, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice rationale for the choice, it could be Perennial projects or Continuing projects or Ongoing projects which remove almost all time elements. 
As for the nomination, it now passes GA. Lincher 02:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GA on hold

message: I would like to request a peer review of Port of Albany-Rensselaer from anyone who wishes to help out. Any comments and critique would be useful in attaining GA status. Thanks! Camelbinky (talk) 23:29, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help on another port 

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message: I was having a discussion with another editor about the Port. I suggest that a full description of anything should appear only once in WP. There is an article on New York New Jersey Rail.  No point in having a full description in Port of New York and New Jersey and Port Authority of New York and New Jersey too. The PA a governmental authority that has a broad portfolio.  I think a carve out for the description of the harbor, its facilities, and its history is great. There's no reason to duplicate the full description of the Waterfront Commission of New York Harbor.  By the same token, Port Authority of New York and New Jersey#Seaports should move into Port of New York and New Jersey. Waddaya think? Rhadow (talk) 01:09, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The Port Authority of New York and New Jersey (PANYNJ) is a body corporate and politic created by compact between the States of New York and New Jersey with the consent of the Congress of the United States. It an entity called a "public benefit corporation". While public benefit corporations are created by the states, they are minimally quasi-governmental organizations (that generally conduct their business under the same rules that government entities are supposed to adere to). The PANYNJ does receive nor is supported by tax revenue, but from "private" sources. The port of NY?NJ is the region in the metropolitan area defined under the same compact, and the shipping, aviation, rail, and other passenger and freight facilites and activities within it. The PANYNJ is one of many organizations operating in the port. One's understanding of the difference between the Port of NY?NJ and the PANYNJ is crucial for making edits.Djflem (talk) 14:46, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorganize [[Port Authority of New York and New Jersey]] and [[Port of New York and New Jersey]]. Eliminate duplication 

message: It has been suggested that the section Port Authority of New York and New Jersey#Seaports be made more concise and information be merged and or shifted to Port of New York and New Jersey.Djflem (talk) 14:52, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge "seaport" section 

message: Living in and reading about New York, I have never seen the Port Authority called "PANYNJ" anywhere except here.  That acronym looks like internal bureaucratese.  Everyone refers to it in brief as "the Port Authority".  Should this article do so?  Zaslav (talk) 02:50, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: , both "PANYNJ" and "Port Authority" are valid shorthand for this organization. It's important to be consistent in the usage of abbreviations, though. Since there are several organizations that are called "Port Authority", I think it should be abbreviated as "PANYNJ" where such confusion may exist, and "Port Authority" in other circumstances. In this case, there may be confusion with other port authorities so I think we should keep "PANYNJ". epicgenius (talk) 03:39, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: epicgenius, thanks for your reply.  I disagree with your conclusion about this article.  In this article, the PA of NY and NJ is the topic.  Any other Port Authority that is mentioned should be named clearly, of course, and if there is a comparison the two should be distinguished.  However, although you say "PANYNJ" is valid shorthand, I do not recall once, in a long time's reading about it, seeing that used.  I may have forgotten a few cases, but they would have been very few.  In conversation it is always called "the Port Authority".  Thus, as a New Yorker familiar with normal usage, I think PANYNJ is an unnatural usage for an enclycopedia.  This article (and others that mention the PA) would be improved by changing it.  Zaslav (talk) 04:26, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK, I must be mistaken. In this case I am fine if you change "PANYNJ" to "Port Authority", and whenever the article discusses other port authorities, we can clarify these instances. epicgenius (talk) 05:00, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your considered agreement!  I will get to it soon.  Zaslav (talk) 05:22, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't see an issue with leaving PANYNJ in the article. It may not be that common in casual usage in the NYC area, but the website is at PANYNJ dot com, and the initials appear all over documents and web pages on the website. It's also fairly common from Google searches. - BilCat (talk) 05:50, 30 January 2019 (UTC)

text: Other than the lead sentence, PANYNJ is used thrice in the article, two of those being in captions, while "Port Authority" is used over 85 times. Is that really that big of a problem for you that you have to excise it from existence? - BilCat (talk) 09:33, 31 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Aside from the snark in our previous 3 posts, you are right.  I had the impression from a different article that it was PANYNJ throughout, and I never got around to checking.  I may (or may not) adjust the usage but I would not eliminate the acronym.  There is already a redirect from PANYNJ, which is good.  Zaslav (talk) 03:54, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "PANYNJ"? 

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