Talk:Bandidos Motorcycle Club

message: I deleted the section on the "Los Perros" support club. I've never heard of them. That's not to say they don't exist. They might. I've lost track of all the support clubs out there. They are certainly not the largest or the oldest. Support clubs are an important part of the organization though. Perhaps there should be some words on them. They can be roughly divided into three groups, American, European, and Asian. I'm not sure how to handle this without it turning into a list. Thoughts? War (talk) 06:27, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  This is a very valid point and a nuance well worth making. I have been troubled by the use of the term "puppet" or "duck" in referring to these clubs. These terms tend to be used by law enforcement and media to refer to support clubs in general. I am quite sure they would be viewed as derogatory terms (not unlike the discussion around the use of the word "gang") to members of those clubs. An additional distinction needs to be made as well. Was the support club formed specifically to be a "buffer" between the alpha club and the activities of the support club, as in the case of the Rockers MC in Quebec? Or did the club exist long before becoming a support club of the larger club, as in the case of the Grim Reapers in Alberta (now HA)? It might be accurate, however derogatory, to refer to the Rockers as a "puppet club" since they were created for the express purpose of supporting the Hells Angels in Quebec, but it is very inaccurate to refer to a regional club that was independent for decades, that is (or was) allied with a larger club, as a "puppet club". Garth of the Forest (talk) 14:56, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Support Clubs

message: The book "Out In Bad Standings; Inside The Bandidos Motorcycle Club" listed in the "external links" is nothing more than link spam. It is not the best non-fiction print source, it's not even an "OK" source, it has consistently received sub par reviews at Amazon, and serves no other purpose than to raise the author's site in the Search Engine Optimization standings. Proxy User (talk) 23:25, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: People watch this space enough to chew my ass inside 2 hours if I put a POV tag up, I'm going to have to assume that lack of objections means I can delete the link. Honestly people, it's a wayyyyy substandard link that is almost certainly "link spam". So, voice your opinion now or watch it fly fly away. Proxy User (talk) 01:04, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I agree that it can be delinked, but given that it's one of the few books about the Bandidos, I would put the book in a "see also" section sans the link. Mmoyer (talk) 02:42, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If it *must* be linked, linking to the Amazon listing provides a lot more information about the book, which as awful. But in my opinion, listing a book simply because it is one of a few is not really a good reason when it is a low quality book to begin with. Proxy User (talk) 05:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The books quality is up to the reader to determine.  The book was written by a member of the club and is about the club, therefore it is relevant, regardless of quality (which is subjective).  Just my opinion. Mmoyer (talk) 20:53, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I concede you're right, this book should be listed. I'm surprised that there are not more / better books or well researched articles available, The Bandidos are not exactly some small unknown Outlaw Biker gang. Proxy User (talk) 00:53, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: I give up any objections to referring to the Bandidos as a club rather than the gang they are. While I have won that battle here, it is unlikly that I can push that view on to the other Motercycle Gang articles, and I concede there should be consistency. Also I would like to promote more good natured editing associated with my account. Therefore, if War wishes to revert my edit on this point, I have no objections. Proxy User (talk) 08:50, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My position is that you won nothing...but that is beside the point. I'm taking my hands off this article for awhile. I want to see how it evolves. I want to see if anyone else steps up to keep it honest, balance, and unbiased. So please, someone else jump in and fix it. The most obvious error is the "gang" reference. Proxy User is right in that if it persists here then it must also be in place in other MC articles. Most other MCs have a much larger and broader history of crime activities so it's a bit backwards right now.War (talk) 17:16, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that being the case, I've had a change of mind, I'm very encouraged. I'm going to have to put together well sourced arguments for the other Motorcycle Gangs on my list. Thanks. Proxy User (talk) 17:24, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gang / Club 

message: Please tell the average joe how to become a bandidos back in my home town there where pisterilos and they claimed they were full and couldn't take new members so would you please tell me how to become one  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.193.253.244 (talk) 17:12, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Club membership 

message: I am new to this, so I will keep this short and sweet.
I am confused to the fact that some one has filled in a description of THE BANDIDOS MOTORCYCLE CLUB and they have never even talked to a Bandido...How does that make sence???  You can not describe a quarter if you do not look at both sides of it.  This goes with every organization in the world.  I am sure if I wanted to do a DESCRIPTION and HISTORY of the POLICE, I could find more than enough article to suppor that they are all baby rapers and sex offenders.  Think about that.  Does that mean that the entire police department does this, NO.  So why would you classify every Bandido under one name.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.248.202.142 (talk) 16:40, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello. One of the foundations of Wikipedia is to cite sources. If you come across facts in Wikipedia that are wrong (or even facts that are right!), find some reliable sources, then change the information, listing your new sources. In general, though, the banditos are classified as a gang by the media. tedder (talk) 17:02, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opinion of one group and THE FACTS of THE BANDIDOS MOTORCYCLE CLUB... 

message: Interesting document here: http://cryptome.org/gangs/bandidos.pdf Might make good source material for this article. Proxy User (talk) 17:06, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source Material 

message: Is there some purpose in a second image of the Bandidos "colors" when one already exists in the Info Box? Proxy User (talk) 17:08, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secondary Colors Image 

message: Oh Please get your History straight on the Bandidos.Don Chambers was never in the Veitnam War.The colors did not come from the marines.It was the coral snake.The Bandidos did not start in S.A. Texas or San Leon,Texas It was in Houston.San Leon is were he went to a musem to study the Mexican Bandidos. He was the founder of this club March 4th 1966. And in the begining bandidos were spelled with a T he changed it when the FriTo lays came out with the little Bandito on the easer in the Frito packages.I know this because I'm his Daughter
Donna Chambers
I just finshed setting his Headstone of what he wanted after 10years of pure hell from this club Gee the one he created which not be here if not for my Father.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.142.166.20 (talk) 17:09, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you share verifiable sources for this?  It's important to understand that Wikipeida will only reflect what reliable and veritable sources say, regardless of what you know to be true.  It might be helpful to read WP:Truth to understand that Wikipedia is not the place to look for "truth" about anything.  That's not what Wikipedia is about.  See also WP:5 for a more general explanation of what Wikipedia does.If you still feel this article is causing harm, please read Wikipedia:Contact us/Article problem/Factual error (from subject) and also Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Help.  From what I can tell, the the accuracy of the facts about how the Bandidtos were founded or where the colors came from is not going to damage any living people; they are just historical facts which natrually are subject to debate.  If you disagree and feel someone is being harmed, please explain.  Thanks!--Dbratland (talk) 17:43, 18 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Donna is CORRECT!!! Don Chambers was NOT a marine. LINDSEY was the boonie rat!!! NOT DON!!! It WAS Houston!! NOT San Leon!!! My husband was William Tinney “Bear” Tinney SW Houston 1st generation. Donna has every right to disagree with incorrect statements being made about her FATHER. Falsehood harms HER AND HER FAMILY. Falsehood about the Bandidos harms ME! It is US the falsehoods are ABOUT!!! I AM A VERIFIABLE SOURCE! I was THERE! SO WAS HIS DAUGHTER DONNA LEE CHAMBERS!! Oh! IS DON’S OWN CHILD A VERIFIABLE  SOURCE!!!???? Or Will Tinney’s WIFE??? The historical FACTS are FACTS and are NOT subject to DEBATE! The people who were actually present at the time KNOW what happened! Donna WAS there and so was I! I absolutely verify everything she has said about her own father and the birth of the nation.Don did NOT draw FREDDIE! Freddie has NOTHING to do with the frito bandido. Boo Tinney (talk) 16:19, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Accuracy dispute

message: According to this: http://www.bandidosmc.dk/ there is a "Probationary Chapter" in Thailand, thus one assumes that Asians can become Bandidos. Indeed, there are numerous photos at that site of Asians wearing Bandido colors. This being so, I've added "Asian" to the "Ethnic Profile" in the side box. =//= Proxy User (talk) 21:38, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asians 

message: The Bandidos Motorcycle Club was founded on March 4, 1966 in Houston, Texas... Not San Leon, Texas... San Leon is the town, where he went to study mexican bandidos... By the way, bandidos was also spelled with a T, then in 1968 he changed it, when the Frito Bandito was came out.
Get your history straight.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.54.188.10 (talk) 21:12, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have reliable sources indicating this? tedder (talk) 21:49, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

text: Please read Wikipedia:Verifiability.--Dbratland (talk) 23:06, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Houston, Texas 

message: Does anyone know something about the splitting of Bandidos MC into 'Western Hemisphere' (North- and Southamerica) and 'Eastern Hemisphere' (Europe and Australia)?
95.223.197.175 (talk) 16:11, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:   Splitting of Bandidos MC 

message: At the end of the HISTORY section there is what appears to be either a reference or an unneeded and redundant reference to the Banditos motorcycle website.  If this was an attempt to reference, it was done quite poorly and needs to be fixed.  For the time being I will leave it, but will make it a comment. Satanhhh (talk) 19:13, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  History: Redundant and out of place website reference 

message: My friend reports there's a off-shoot organization for women called Steel Heels. Can this be verified and included? Technophant (talk) 20:16, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Steel Heels