Talk:Kickball

message: The article says the game is also called California kickball in Canada.  That's because I popularized kickball in the Vancouver area starting around 1977.  My students named it California kickball because I’m from there.  I taught at Windsor House alternative school in North Vancouver then.  I don't know of any published reference to any of that, though.  It's still called California kickball in Meetup here.  I played it yesterday at Slocan Park. Korky Day (talk) 18:32, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This comment is nearly 8 years old but I just saw it now. I went to elementary school in Delta in the 80s and this was a very popular game, and it was called "California kickball" or shortened to "California kick". I think everyone who grew up in Greater Vancouver at least called it that, and I was an adult before I learned that name isn't universal. 46.13.110.209 (talk) 07:16, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: The name California kickball

message: The lawsuit between WAKA LLC v. DCKickball  could be mentioned in an article about WAKA but it doesn't belong in this article which is only about the sport/game of Kickball (not in-depth about specific leagues and/or governing bodies).  Here are my arguments for this viewpoint:
:a) The lawsuit is just a claim at this point.  No ruling has been made yet.
:b) The lawsuit (which sounds pretty much frivolous) and is unlikely to have any affect on the game outside of those two litigants.  It won't affect the game of kickball, which is the subject of this article.
:c) There are thousands of independent kickball leagues around the United States and probably the world.  I play in a non-WAKA league.  WAKA doesn't own the game itself.
Fife Club 17:53, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WAKA Lawsuit

message: As it states when editing the article, Wikipedia is not a search engine nor is it a website directory service.  Please do not list sites that are not of significant value to this article on the game/sport of kickball.
Just because you have an adult kickball league does not mean you can add links to your website in this article so you get more internet traffic.  That is spam and is not allowed on Wikipedia.  The link to WAKA is justified because they are a legitimate subject of the article and/or have made an impact o~n the game (or if not, at least that point could be intelligently argued).  By the way, I don't work for nor play in any WAKA league.  Additional websites may or may not be appropriate for adding to the external links but no other individual leagues should be added unless the subject has some sort of a significant impact on the game.  Remember this is an encyclopedia article on the sport of kickball (origins, equipment, rules, etc.), not a place for free publicity for for-profit adult leagues. Fife Club 21:34, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not just start an article specifically on WAKA, apart from the kickball article? Amnewsboy 09:23, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be fine.  All you have to do to start one is click that red link in the article (not the external link).  I haven't done it myself because I don't know enough about WAKA to write more than a few sentences.  However that doesn't mean that WAKA shouldn't still be mentioned in the Kickball article too.  I'm not the one who put WAKA in there in the first place but it is justified content.  Aside from being the largest Kickball league, they honestly did pretty much launch the idea of having adult leagues in the first place (a true fact that I actually deemphasized to try to make it a more neutral article in hopes that competing leagues wouldn't feel the need to vandalize the article any more - a hope that hasn't worked out.)Fife Club 13:16, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Agree with User:Fife Club.  If they links on Adult Kickball are important, then figure out another article to put them in, but I don't think they belong here.  See WP:LINKS for possibilities? --James Kidd (Contr/Email) 05:32, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Adult Kickball page is brand-new, and was created specifically to provide readers with information about Adult Kickball and where it is played around the country. Validity of the links aside, it is inappropriate to redirect an article about "Adult" kickball to the general kickball page. Please see Talk:Adult Kickball to continue this discussion. Crabasa 13:43, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Discussion on this topic moved to Talk:Adult Kickball. Comments? →James Kidd (contr/talk/email) 11:11, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: External Links

message: The main article describes balls from 10- to 16-inches. Balls from 5 inches to 16 inches are commercially available, but all the sources I've checked agree that 8.5 inches is the standard size. I play in an adult league and we use an 8.5 inch ball. OlYeller 16:26, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Adult leagues are free to make up what ever rules they want (despite WAKA's claims to "own" the game) so there are no universal rules.  For what it's worth, my league plays with 15" and I've bought 12" for the team to warm up with.  From trips to the sporting goods store I'm under the impression that 8.5" balls are primarily intended for kids so I'd agree with the 10-16" statement in the article but like I said, there really aren't any rules so anything is possible.  If you feel the need you can add a statement about 'other sizes can be used as well' but IMHO I wouldn't expand the range of numbers considered normal sizes.  Just my 2cents.  Fife Club 13:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. It seems that 10" is the most common size in USA adult leagues. OlYeller 01:36, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ball size 

message: Part of the solution to this spam/vandalization debate is to simply move "Adult Kickball" to its own page. Rather than a minor note to the Kickball article, Adult Kickball is itself a topic worthy of quite a bit of writing, history and commentary. I've taken the Adult kickball content from here and placed it in the Adult Kickball article and expanded on it. Please feel free to contribute or comment over there.
Crabasa 01:01, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've remerged it.  It came to my attention at Wikipedia:Village pump (assistance)#Article Is Link Farm and approximately half of the article length was external links.  Linking to a comprehensive web directory is fine; becoming that web directory is not. The split simply moved the spam, rather than stopping it. A more indepth discussion may be needed about the content merits of a split, but the spam list is a clear violation of policy. - BanyanTree 20:35, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've de-merged and removed the offensive links. While I still believe the links are valid, given the likely needs of the readers who come across and "Adult Kickball" article, I can see how it might be seen as spam. However, the split is completely valid. Adult kickball bears only a passing resemblance to the children's game that it is based on. Crabasa 14:11, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Adult Kickball Article

message: What if someone is running towards base, and the fielders throw the ball at his head, making him distracted for a small amount of time, long enough to get the ball to the base and thus get him out? Is this allowed? 58.174.177.151 (talk) 01:52, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea same here 70.187.172.212 (talk) 15:45, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

text: I remember that when I was in grade school, the rules we played under allowed throwing the ball at the runner. If the ball hit the runner, he was out. 71.203.209.0 (talk) 16:29, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We have a rule against throwing at someone's head.  Also, we do not allow throwing below the knees, because that could cause someone to trip and fall.  --Korky Day Korky Day (talk) 18:22, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  What if... 

message: Where is it ever called kicker? —Wiki Wikardo 22:39, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game name 

message: Hi, I live in Australia and I have to say that kickball is played here - though it is more commonly called 'bootball'. It's most frequently played in schools, and primary more than secondary schools.  The rules are essentially the same as what is outlined here, only with the exception; the ball is usually rolled (pitched). Bootball is also modified to become 'Playground Bootball' where the batting team must complete a sort of obstacle course including monkey bars, climbing frames, etc (whatever play equipment is installed on the playground) rather than the usual baseball bases. It can also be modified to a cricket style of play, as an alternative to the traditional baseball format.
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_is_boot-ball
http://www.ssbennettswood.catholic.edu.au/curriculum/3/physical-education--sport/20433/
http://llpsmiddle.global2.vic.edu.au/2010/12/04/the-2010-middles-bootball-championship/comment-page-1/
Tinkstar1985 11:37, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bootball 

message: Hey everyone, I think that the basic rules of kickball need to be added to this page. It is a critical part of the game that is missing on this wiki. Looking through the talk page I am not sure if this has happened before (and then removed?) or if no one has ever done this. I will be doing this eventually if there are no objections to some of the basic rules being added. Jiminykickit (talk) 17:31, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rules 

message: One of the criteria for an article to become featured is that is must be neutral. As I read the introduction I noticed right away that there was a very sexist quote from "back in the day". Is it necessary for this article? I think not. Fo1799xa (talk) 17:42, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biased 

message: (the quote that refers to note #1)
shouldn't a context be provided for this text bit? that's how it's usually done, right?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.162.134.234 (talk) 11:58, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  the quote in paragraph three 

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