Talk:Looped square

message: Is the symbol on 1000 years old wooden ski foun from Finland the oldest Saint John's Arms symbol known? By the way Finland was not yet fully Christianised that time so it was probably a pagan symbol. 193.65.112.51 14:36, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the symbol on the wooden ski in Finland is about 1000 years old. The description on the Finnish antiquities webpage says that it dated from the Viking era, which would imply pagan symbolism to me too. (If you view the image, you'll note that it was rotated 90 degrees from the cruciform version of the symbol. That isn't especially relevant though.) Although Finland was (presumably) not Christianized as of 1000 A.D., the name for the symbol isn't specified on the Finnish museum page. Your point is well taken! I would guess that the historical text book that was also cited in this article describes why the term Saint John's Arms symbol is associated with the wooden ski symbol. I cannot confirm that, as I don't read Finnish.  --FeralOink (talk) 20:48, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand this is an old comment, but the fact is that this symbol is very prominently featured on artifacts much older than the Finnish ski version, which is just the oldest in Finland, not the oldest overall. It is in fact featured several times on the Oseberg ship burial tapestry. The context of this seems to be a religious procession, which is definitely not Christian.62.198.135.174 (talk) 21:20, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Oldest Saint John's Arms?

message: Here's another variant... AnonMoos 19:49, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Variant

message: This article is rather lacking any discussion on where the name comes from, or what the symbol meant historically.  --Starwed (talk) 20:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, and why does it pop up in the oddest places?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.49.35.99 (talk) 05:09, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why? 

message: See :File:Flag_of_Fukuoka_Prefecture.svg... -- AnonMoos (talk) 12:51, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Five-fold variant

message: I changed the URL for the wooden ski. I also created a separate reference, with citation template of type web for it, rather than bare linking to the image from within the article. If the URL that I used was less persistent or otherwise problematic, here is the original URL:
:hxxp://suomenmuseotonline.fi/fi/kohde/Arkeologian+osasto/KM9908%3A1?pathId=1.184.183.866.&itemIndex=10307 photo
It is entirely functional, should it need to be replaced. --FeralOink (talk) 20:52, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finnish ski image reference 

message: This ought to be renamed to looped square. Redirect whatever to it, but the current name is bias as can be.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TrystynAlxander (talk • contribs) 22:45, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: +1. The name "Saint John’s arms" is appropriate (if at all) only where culture with Christian affinity prevails. "Looped square" is neutral regarding culture and is the term used e.g. in the Tennessee Encyclopedia cited in the article for the Missisippi culture specimens. German uses the similar term "Schleifenquadrat" ("Schleifen"=loops, "Quadrat"=square). -- Karl432 (talk) 23:07, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Looped Square 

message: What's the relevance of Runestone U 1087, depicted in the gallery, to this article? 85.226.204.113 (talk) 10:46, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, it's not particularly relevant.  There are plenty of other better examples in the article, so I removed it.  Reify-tech (talk) 16:23, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Runestone U 1087 

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