Talk:Goetia

message: While the Ars Goetia contains 72 spirits and the name of extension contains 72 letters, I don't think most would consider goetia to be part of "Jewish Kaballah".  If one wishes to note the comparisons it is probably more appropriate on Ars Goetia rather than this page.  This page I think would be better served to deal with the word goetia's meaning rather than the grimoire of the Lesser Key. --Chaoscrowley 09:14, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ups. Two things. First, Ars Goetia redirects to this article. Check it by clicking on the internal link you put. And second, the meaning of the word goetia doesn't belong here, as this is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary. The meanings and etimology should go in Wiktionary:goetia. --Legion fi 06:34, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing Kabalah reference 

message: Some of the titles of the demons (Prince, Count, etc) don't match the title given on that individual demon's page. The ones that don't match are: Barbas, Botis, Morax, Ipos, Glasya-Labolas, Ronove, Furfur, Malthus, Raum, Vine, Bifrons, Murmur, and Andromalius. The vast majority of these are names which are marked as Count on this page, but are listed as Earl on the page linked to. I'm no expert, I have no idea which is correct, does anyone have a copy of the book to check?
Uvall also seems to have a name problem, his name links to a page called Vual, with no explanation for the incongruity.Yipely 04:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Titles don't match  

message: Removed two external links, one had a small article with advertisements on the same page and the other links to a page with links to someone's amazon page for some book or books, better info can be found via google IMO. --Demonslave 11:22, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: This article is pretty scrappy considering the amount of work that's been done on Goetia of late. For now, I've fixed Mathers name, and added a citation that was missing. There's still a lot that could be added... --Rodneyorpheus (talk) 16:01, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Citation, Fixed Name 

message: Right now the article claims Abramelin the Mage to tell how to summon demons "solely for the purpose of excommunicating them from the life of the Magus", when the text in question and the cited source contain nothing of the sort. Same for the part telling "This Oath (after gaining the power of the supernal realm), would grant the Adept power over the Infernal Realm and aid the Adept in discovering his True Will". Abramelin actually simply guides how to evoke these demons to help performing the magic, while the purpose isn't to discover the True Will (rather to act according to the Will of God) but to gain access to the "True and Sacred Wisdom". Siipiniekka (talk) 03:47, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I stumbled upon the actual article on The Book of Abramelin, containing the correct facts. It also states:  Should the section simply be deleted completely and the link added to the "See also" list instead? Siipiniekka (talk) 22:14, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I checked the main article on Abramelin as also the original text. The section is now in consensus with the main article, with added reference for the part on "excommunicating demons from the life of the Magus". My personal intepretation of the text isn't 100% in line with this, but I assume it's somewhere in the books refered to in the article. If someone has more info on the subject, feel free to correct both this section and the main article. Siipiniekka (talk) 22:16, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abramelin the Mage 

message: Two alternative online sources for Fragmenta Historicorum Graecorum: . Cheers! Jayaguru-Shishya (talk) 19:08, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fragmenta Historicorum Graecorum