Talk:Transport (typeface)

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Good article —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.130.246.2 (talk • contribs) 
:I agree. Very interesting article. I have two questions:
:#What does the line Until the late 1950s, most roads in the United Kingdom were B roads mean? Did they increase the number of A roads after that time as well as introducing motorways? I wonder if the line should be clarified to single-carriageway roads or similar?
:#Is this typeface available as a computer font?
:Cheers. — SteveRwanda 12:08, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Chris's British Road Directory, in the article's links section, has homemade versions of the font and a link to the licenced commercial font. --GagHalfrunt 13:20, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Above link is dead, CBRD became roads.org.uk, the above page is now here: https://www.roads.org.uk/index.php/fonts GoodClover (a.k.a. Olive, GodClovere, ) (talk) 14:01, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Good article

message: Agree: merge into Transport (typeface)--219.77.165.93 13:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge ?  

message: Chris Marshall states definitely that this font is a "modification" of Akzidenz Grotesk -  .  Is he a sufficiently reliable source for us to put this in the article? Tevildo 23:42, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship to Akzidenz Grotesk 

message: This phrase seems anachronistic to me. 
Transport wasn't in use in the UK until the turn of the 1960s. Road signs in the colonies would probably not have adopted it until several years later - and by the late 1960s, most British colonies had gained independence.
It may well be that many former British colonies subsequently adopted Transport for some or all of their signage. But the wording as it stands implies that the decision was taken by British administrators, which may well not be the case.
For instance, Malaysia's road network uses a variety of typefaces. Most roads seem to use the FHWA typeface - but at least some of the newer motorways from Kuala Lumpur's KL Sentral railway station to the new international airport built in the 1990s use Transport (Malaysia's been independent since 1957 - definitely not a residual colonial choice, then), and Helvetica seems to be in use too.
Unless the phrase can be substantiated, I'd suggest simply removing it and listing countries or global regions where it's in use.
--DrDaveHPP (talk) 15:10, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Some limited residual usage in Commonwealth states" 

message: The infobox lists the creation date of this font as 1963 - this is incorrect and is actually disputed in the opening para of the article. It was already in use on some roads in the UK in 1958 (including, as a first trial, signs on the approach to the Chiswick Flyover) so its creation date would more appropriately be 1957.
Cf. the comment above that the font was modified from Akzidenz Grotesk - I am the Chris mentioned there and I don't recall withdrawing that claim; in fact I'm still quite sure it's true. There is, for example, a published essay on the development of Transport by Ole Lund: I don't have the text before me now but I believe that this discusses the origins of Transport. A comparison of Transport and Akzidenz Grotesk side-by-side also shows that they are, very clearly, related in the shape of almost every letterform. Kinneir and Calvert's main changes were in producing versions of different stroke widths, adjusting spacing for greater clarity and introducing the distinctive tails on the lowercase l and a.
--Chris Marshall (www.cbrd.co.uk) 132.185.240.122 (talk) 10:50, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creation date 

message: Is it me, or have government websites such as this one started publishing in Transport recently? It looks slightly odd, because this is a typeface optimised for large letters to be written at distance, not for printed prose. It might be worth a mention in the article if it is the case.  — Amakuru (talk) 15:24, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transport on UK government websites?