Talk:Mexican War of Independence

message: In the infobox picture caption the link for "Mural of independence by O'Gorman" is to Edmundo Gorman. This is the wrong brother.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edmundo_O%27Gorman
The correct brother is Juan. Suggest updating link to
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_O%27Gorman
Thanks
Jl00282 (talk) 18:19, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggest to correct O'Gorman hyperlink in infobox

message: Is this a reference to Valladolid, Yucatán or to Morelia, Michoacán, then known as Valladolid? Yucatán seems a bit off the beaten track for the insurgents, in light of their other theatres of activity. –Hajor 18:52, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I just noticed this. I believe you are right that the link should be to Morelia. Yucatán was at the time only accessible by sea from the rest of Mexico, not somewhere that could be "marched" to. -- Infrogmation 17:04, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Valladolid

message: September 16 and 17. The date was changed on the late 19th century by Porfirio Díaz, to fit his own birthday a day before.--Fluence (talk) 03:47, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Actual dates

message: I know Spansh reports are stupid but this is a good page to do one on the independence of Mexico!   
I give props to wikipedia!!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.20.242.64 (talk) 01:17, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spanish Reports!!!(stupid) 

message: The town where Hidalgo and other insurgents were captured was Acatita de Baján, in the now state of Chihuahua. But at the time, California, Texas, and New Mexico were Mexican (or New Spanian) Territories -acounting for half of the country's area- so they where quite far from the US Border.201.141.27.25 (talk) 00:00, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mexican-US Border? 

message: I think this article needs some work.  For example, the section on independence is extremely short, twice rebel armies magically appear without any statement of where they came from, their size, etc.  This article is very low start class in my opinion.  I would help with grammer and phrasing if necessary, but I am hoping someone out there has mor expertise on this subject than I have and has sources for many of the factual additions that are necessary.205.152.247.15 (talk) 12:49, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: sorry, forgot to log in for the previous additionTheseeker4 (talk) 12:49, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite? 

message: The text overlaps the picture of the declaration of independence when viewed with Firefox, and the size is enlarged a few times. (Ctl+=) Unfree (talk) 20:03, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Text overlaps picture

message: I'm proposing that the above two articles be merged together because they have very similar topics (first explains what happens before and the outcome, last explains the remembrance and the famous saying). I'm also suggesting that the topic would be moved to Mexican independence.Comments? Respective topics will be headlined with the merge box if needed. Totlmstr (talk) 22:32, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I respectfully oppose the merger.  The two topics are related of course, but I propose that they are distinct enough to merit two articles (especially on an on-line encyclopedia like Wikipedia). Besides, the Grito is an event of reference not only to the war of independence but to Mexican politics and national identity, that it would be confusing to subsume it in a general article. It should also be noted that the Grito and Hidalgo's efforts start the successful campaign for independence, but it was not the only factor nor the starting point. Hidalgo's efforts are a continuation of events that began unrolling even before the coup carried out by Gabriel Yermo, and the war ended by a coalition of royalists and rebels, conservatives and liberals, many of which had no direct connection to the Grito.  For at least these reasons I think the two should not be merged and the Grito article left as a stand-alone article. Thanks!TriniMuñoz (talk) 16:51, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge: [[Mexican War of Independence]] and [[Grito de Dolores]] 

message: Under the Beginning of War section the following reads "Hidalgo had already achieved notoriety- he gambled, fornicated, had children out of wedlock and didn't believe in Hell." Really?? I think this needs to be stricken as there are no citations or references to its veracity.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Brucejr (talk • contribs) 13:36, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Under Begining of War section. 

message: Some verification is needed to determine whether Martin Cortes was trying to eliminate the privileges of the conquistadors and whether his actions were a precursor to the 1810 War of Independence. My understanding from what I am reading on Wiki is that Martin Cortes (like others, including Pizarro) was unhappy about the New Laws, which were designed to replace the encomienda system. His motives were then not to eliminate the privileges of the conquistadors but to ensure that his inheritance would be protected. After reading the way the passage is currently written, one gets the impression that Martin Cortes was an advocate of indigenous workers' rights. This stikes me as inaccurate and inconsistent, however, I am not a scholar on this topic and so leave this to discussion.
--Dorismirella (talk) 13:45, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Background section, reference to Martín Cortés 

message: I have had this article temporarily protected today as there has been a rash of vandalism this week.  It will expire on Sept 26th. PKT(alk) 21:07, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandals 

message: At the battle of Monte de las Crucas alone, the Spanish defenders were basically overrun and consensus says that the vast majority of the nearly 3,000~ men were massacred. Likewise, we see 400 dead at Huajuapan de Leon alone on top of that. So with these facts in mind, how in God's name do we see- in a war of this scale, this length, and thus brutality- only 2,000 Spanish killed? Yes, I agree that the Spanish and Royalists had a qualitative advantage for most of the war, that large chunks of the battles were relatively small (in comparison to-say- the regular battles of the American Revolution, French Revolution, Napoleonic Wars, Latin American revolutions, etc),  and that the Royalists as a result tended to suffer relatively smaller losses. But there is no reason to believe that they were *that* small and plenty of reasons to believe they weren't. 75.36.164.241 (talk) 19:18, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insanely Undervalued Spanish/Royalist Casualties 

message: Admin,
In the least, this article needs the end of "First phase of the insurgency - the Hidalgo revolt" starting from "The truth about Hidalgo is a little more complex" removed.
The content is not only poorly written - it is based on pure opinion, cites nothing, and could be considered offensive.
Nobody can make improvements to this article because it is locked.
For more background, please see bottom of talk section "Rewrite?" and response ticket #2015042910028266.
Yyymichael (talk) 20:38, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: No COI, so removed that template. Joseph2302 (talk) 22:39, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested Edits - Removal of Highly Subjective Content 

message: Substituted at 23:48, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: In the "First phase of the insurgency: the Hidalgo revolt", just below the tag, it states 'Father Hidalgo is today remembered today as the Father of his Country,'. I think there is one to many today's there. Turismond (talk) 04:14, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Thanks for spotting!  MediaKill13 (talk) 05:01, 30 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 30 July 2016 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In "Construction of Historical Memory of Independence" change the spelling of "peeling" to "pealing".  It has read "peeling" since this section was created on 18:11, 22 September 2015‎. 99.23.194.130 (talk) 21:40, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done with thanks, NiciVampireHeart 21:46, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2018 

message: Please fix typo in intro: indepedence → independence 81.102.123.39 (talk) 17:08, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done —KuyaBriBriTalk 17:31, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 19 September 2019 

message: The first illustration (as of Sept 25, 2020) is stated to be "clockwise from top left" followed by labels for what is shown, but it isn't. The labels for what is shown go in the order of top-to-bottom and within any row left to right before proceeding to the next row down.2604:2000:1383:8B0B:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 07:13, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. (CC) Tbhotch™ 16:47, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illustration mis-captioned 

message: There appear to be two Agustín de Iturbide, one born in Mexico and another in the US. See Mexican War of Independence#Insurgency under Vicente Guerrero, 1815–1820 Peter Horn User talk 22:10, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Agustín de Iturbide appears to have switched sides. See Mariano Matamoros#Micoacan. Peter Horn User talk 22:30, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

text: There is just one, born in Mexico, America as opposed to Spain. Vpab15 (talk) 23:12, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion 

message: In the section of The Hidalgo revolt, 1810–1811, there is a word missing in the second paragraph.
Change "...and was friends men who held Enlightenment views." to "...and was friends with men who held Enlightenment views." Idk xch (talk) 23:25, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: RudolfRed (talk) 00:54, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 February 2023 

message: Nothingissssssss (talk) the independence was caused by a bear names the hemingway
: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 17:08, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2023 

message: Spelling error of the word: "Following" in the Hidalgo revolt section. Gunblaze101 (talk) 15:47, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: For others who are confused, the sentence (in its original form) was "", where "following" was misspelt as "followoing". Liu1126 (talk) 17:12, 16 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2023 

message: a misspelling
I think you meant 'Long live Christ', not 'Love live Christ' Erm, what the sigma skibidi ohio? (talk) 01:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 04:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  at 1:56 actually. SilverLocust 💬 19:31, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2024