Talk:Voiceless dental and alveolar lateral fricatives

message: This sentence: The voiceless alveolar lateral fricative is a type of consonantal sound, used in some spoken languages. could use some direct citations of cross-linguistic attestation of the sound so users can quickly navigate to these sources while reading the lead section. Peter Ladefoged's website has some great examples.Alyson Budd (talk) 01:16, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: /t͡ɬ/ is the Voiceless alveolar lateral affricate--87.162.38.166 (talk) 18:06, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: General Style Issues

message: Note that I have added a source to Icelandic phonology which confirms the presence of lateral fricatives and affricates in Icelandic, at least as allophones. Whether they might be said to have phonemic status depends on the analysis; so I am not sure if they should be mentioned in this article and the one on the corresponding affricate. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 13:53, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: We can mention them in both, unless the source doesn't explicitly say something about a voiceless alveolar lateral affricate, in which case you should remove mention of it from the Icelandic phonology article. — Æµ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 15:47, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I understood that phonetically, the cluster is realised as an affricate automatically, but it's true that this is not explicitly stated in the source. Instead, it's called a "pre-stopped lateral". (I wonder if you can distinguish a voiceless alveolar lateral affricate from a prestopped lateral and a group at all, using the spectrogram given in the source. Acoustically, I can't.) --Florian Blaschke (talk) 13:00, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You'll probably get different answers on how to do so depending on if you ask a phonetician or a phonologist.  — Æµ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 16:50, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Icelandic 

message: Hello! I think I noticed a strange error just now. It claims that the IPA symbol represents the voiceless dental fricative, which is clearly untrue -- that is  in English "think," and that is represented by a theta-like symbol in IPA. I don't know about the postalveolar thing, tho. Does anyone have information on this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.70.153.79 (talk) 03:47, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not worded very clearly, but there can be dental lateral fricatives, alveolar lateral fricatives, and postalveolar lateral fricatives all transcribed as [ɬ].  — Æµ§œš¹ [ãːɱ ˈfɹ̠ˤʷɪ̃ə̃nlɪ] 04:33, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect IPA Information? 

message: I have removed the reference to Tolkien's languages; it is unsourced, and it's not clear that it's true.  In Appendix E to The Lord of the Rings, Tolkien specifically says that lh represents voiceless /l/, and he may not have fully understood that Welsh ll was a fricative.  (In addition, Sindarin is Welsh-influenced but Quenya is not.) —John Cowan (talk) 21:30, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Since no language has a phonemic distinction between the two, I don't see how it could hurt, though maybe w a fn. — kwami (talk) 22:33, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: FWIW, Xhosa does, too (hl vs. lh). --Trɔpʏliʊm • blah 17:23, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you want to say? Xhosa hl is [ɬ], whereas lh a slack-voiced /l̤/... --JorisvS (talk) 19:46, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tolkien languages 

message: When I was creating a conlang, I had <ll> pronounced /ɮ/. I looked up the phoneme I'd discovered, and ever since lateral fricatives have been my realization of English <sh> and <zh>. As far as I know, everyone I know still pronounces <sh> as /ʃ/, but I haven't asked :P. GamerGeekWiki (talk) 20:56, 28 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alevolar Lateral Fricative in some English Dialects  

message: That section is about orthography and not phonology, and belongs somewhere else but not this article. - Keith D. Tyler ¶ 21:35, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capital Letter