Talk:Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies filmography

message: The filmography has been reformatted into multiple columns and has a custom TOC to save screen space. The series codes and release dates (Beck/Friedwald) from 1935 on will be brought online soon. You can pitch in if you have a decent reference like the B & F.
Schweiwikist 02:05, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Special Note on new layout and custom TOC

message: What's with the recent edits on this page?  There are directors credited with many MM/LT shorts that had nothing to do with WB, like Hanna & Barbera, Takamoto, Nichols, and Deitch.  In addition, there are multiple directors credited with cartoons they didn't even work on, like 1963's "Claws in the Lease" (which lists Tex Avery, who was gone from WB by over 20 years at that point!).  Something tells me this article should be cleaned up to imdb standards and then locked, because there's some blatantly incorrect info here.  Sb2007 (talk) 15:08, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Info/Vandalism? 

message: Somebody redirected my page "List of Looney Tunes VHS Tapes" into this page. It weird!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexandharrison (talk • contribs) 18:54, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Unexpected

message: I was thinking it would be a good idea to put external links to the Big Cartoon Database (http://www.bcdb.com) because all the cartoons have synopsis, characters, and other notes.  What is the Wiki-style guide say for that?  What do people think? Jeff schiller 19:22, 2004 Oct 19 (UTC)
That's a possibilty.  IMDB also lists a lot of these toons individually.  --Igor-the-insane 17:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outside References 

message: ===Synopsis===
 Year released: yyyy 
Characters:
*character 2
*character 1
*character 5
author/animator
====Episode Description====
ydda yadda yadda
===Other info===
: Do you mean a template for each cartoon in the page itself?  I personally like the concise list presented here and would not want to break that up...Jeff schiller 19:22, 2004 Oct 19 (UTC)
: I think this is a great idea, creating a stub page like this for each episode.  We could use BCDB.com for help. Cl_ellison 04:52, 2006 July 11
: In addition to the DVD info, how about the laserdisc info as well ?  I have all of th em and would be happy to contribute.--Igor-the-insane 17:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Episode Name

message: : Do you mean a template for each cartoon in the page itself?  I personally like the concise list presented here and would not want to break that up...Jeff schiller 19:22, 2004 Oct 19 (UTC)
: I think this is a great idea, creating a stub page like this for each episode.  We could use BCDB.com for help. Cl_ellison 04:52, 2006 July 11
: In addition to the DVD info, how about the laserdisc info as well ?  I have all of th em and would be happy to contribute.--Igor-the-insane 17:50, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other info

message: How many are there in total?--Richy 21:54, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Total number

message: In the desktop reference to the LT/MM canon, Beck & Friedwald wrote (in April 1989):
:“...watching over 1,000 WB cartoons is educational. We learned four rules which have enriched our lives and we will never forget:
:# Hippety Hopper is not a giant mouse.
:# Always get a warranty from ACME.
:# Never let Bugs or Daffy shave you!
:# The little light—it stays on!”
I’m working on breaking up the list into more easily edit-able chunks, just to add release months, based on published source(s). It’s an open question whether a capsule article on each title derived from B & F would be appropriate fair use of an out-of-print work, which fetches a steep price "new" on amazon.
Here’s the link to the book, with the customer reviews enabled (nothing very recent):
“Looney Tunes . . .” on amazon.com
Schweiwikist 16:51, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just making each year it's own sub-section should make it manageable, there aren't that many films each year. Qutezuce 21:00, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How many, doc? They made more cartoons than Mel had voices . . . 

message: Do we need links to the top of the page? Does anyone actually use them? I find that they clutter the page up. Qutezuce 21:58, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Links to top of pages

message: They would be less necessary if this filmography were not so large, and was broken into sub-filmographies (by decade, I suppose.) I took the step of columnizing the format because there was so much wasted space to the right of the titles, but the page is still very tall. Hence the “disclaimer” at the top regarding the volume of titles.
Another purpose I think the page serves as it is, is to see how many (or few) titles have articles, and the LT-MM short “profile” within WP. I was just suprised to accidentally discover there are no Cecil Turtle cartoon articles, but the 3 titles redirect to Cecil Turtle instead.
If there were enough articles overall, then they could be categorized, and WP would generate the lists itself. For example, “Category: 1947 Merrie Melodies shorts”. But till then it’s hard to get a bearing on what’s out there. Right now I find the extra navigation handy to get back to the custom contents section (which I learned to cook up). But I’ll certainly be glad to get rid of them later.
So, to put it succinctly: I use them because I needed them; I’ll trash ’em once they’re redundant. Thanx!
Schweiwikist 20:34, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply

message: As far as I know, the shorts listed on the main page never made it off the planning stages and are scrapped.  Any more info on these? Jeff schiller 15:36, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Unreleased Doyle Shorts

message: I'm just wondering: What's the difference between the regular shorts (i.e. those listed first), and the "Miscelaneous Shorts?"  Why can't we just put all of them together? Charlie Ellison 21:22, 03 July 2006
We need to define the difference, so people won't keep moving shorts back and forth between the two sections.  I just noticed that someone moved some 1980s cartoons.  Can anyone tell which is which and by which criteria? Cl ellison 17:47, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Regular Shorts vs. Misc. Shorts

message: Why is someone changing the format that the sorts are listed in the 1960s sections?  And why are they putting the year of the short  within the parenthases when it's already in a section that has the year? And is anybody even looking at this Talk page anymore? Cl ellison 02:45, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Why the column changes???

message: What's the difference between putting the blue L as opposed to the circle symbol; and the note symbol vs. the pink M?
Cl ellison 22:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Symbols for "Looney Tunes" vs. "Merrie Melodies" 

message: There are far too many red links. Can somebody please fill them in? Angie Y. 01:32, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I can help out! Agtaz 03:12, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm filling them in too. Done two so far today Box Car Blues and The Booze Hangs High‎ --Kisholi (talk) 08:42, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Too many red links

message: Is it safe to say that the article currently lists all LT/MM films to date? Hotdoglives 07:42, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Is the list complete?

message: I am no one special really - I just forget to log in a lot. I did all that editing in June because I wanted to update which shorts were in the golden collections. Beep Beep.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Syst0aac (talk • contribs) 19:25, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mr. 76.188.8.144 

message: I think this point is notable, and should be pointed out here! Problem is, if you count (the decade totals, to make it easier), it is:
*1930's 270
*1940's 307
*1950's 278
*1960's 148
This adds up to 1003. But three of the films are not considered "regular" run LT/MM's; at least by Beck and Friewald! The Door (7-1-68) was a film produced by someone else that WB bought and added to their distribution. Then, you have Roadrunner A Go go and Zip, Zip Hurry, which are the two 1965 shorts cut out of the Adventures of the Roadrunner special, as noted here. I see they have release dates, but according to B&F, they were unreleased theatrically, and only shown on TV. (Those dates could have been tentative and afterward cancelled). All three of these films are considered specials by B&F, and not listed with the regular run. Just like all of the other productions, such as Private Snafu, Chuck Jones' "Ralph Philips" and other military and Health Dept. PSA's, Philbert, the live action Orange Blossoms for Violet, etc., are not apart of the regular filmography. (the ["LT/MM neutral"], "Cartoon Special" Norman Normal IS considered a regular run short, as it was produced by the studio (Lovy, director), and was not a PSA or other special produced for anyone else.
So that leaves exactly 1000 shorts, until the 80's revival and made for TV shorts. This should definitely be pointed out, but I don't want to delete/(move) those three films without discussing it.Eric B (talk) 00:00, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: EXACTLY '''''1000''''' Regular Films in initial run (1930-69)

message: I just checked the copyright year on the opening titles of three different shorts (Duck Dodgers, Rabbit Fire and Rabbit Seasoning) and in each case the year in the title is one less than the year listed here.  Was the copyright date generally assigned a year before the film's theatrical release?
~ RedSolstice (talk) 04:18, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe better to go by release date. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 04:27, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe FMAFan1990 can create a section called "Copyright" in his LT/MM filmography. Agtax 04:32, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright Dates vs. Release Dates 

message: Can there be a section on what has been re-released on DvD/etc? I am aware of the Looney Tunes Golden Collection, but from internet searches there seem to be other collections too. Which are the latest, and which have been best restored to their original state? I found a site offering the golden collection in widescreen, but they were out of stock and I can't find them elsewhere? The ones I can find are fullscreen, but weren't most of these originally released in theaters? Wouldn't they orginally been in some sort of widescreen format?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.62.8.253 (talk) 11:43, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reissues 

message: I am growing increasingly frustrated by the continued removal of movie DVDs from the DVD Availability column which feature some of the Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies as special features. One such example is the Cimarron DVD which includes the 1931 Merrie Melody Red-Headed Baby. Another odd set of removals involves the two volumes of "Uncensored Bosko" DVDs. I understand that the Uncensored Bosko DVDs might not be good to list (or maybe not even be allowed to be listed) because they are not official Warner Bros. DVD releases. However, many of these removed movie DVDs with cartoon extras ARE official Warner Bros. DVDs and those should be listed. Can whoever is removing these give everyone a good idea why the removals continue to happen? I want to create a valid list of LTs and MMs included as movie extras for a project I'm working on, and these repeated removals are driving me up a wall.
74.114.36.65 (talk) 17:49, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of DVD titles from DVD Availability Columns? 

message: Editor BookDen gave me quite a scare by removing so much content - without comment! But it looks OK, referring to other entries and not leaving this entry overloaded. So please, leave a comment for this vandalism chaser next time...Super48paul (talk) 08:34, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  January 9 2014 rearrangement 

message: this page claims 1004 shorts were released altogether, but if you do the math - 
1930s - 270
1940s - 307
1950s - 278
1960s - 146
grand total - 1001 (or 1002 with 1929 pilot, or 1003 with Norman Normal special) - I believe is the correct calculation. Or someone please correct me if i'm wrong.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.244.157.53 (talk) 23:10, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  total number of shorts 

message: The 1950s article cleverly credit directors by the name they were using professionally at the time the cartoons were released, for instance Charles M. Jones or I. Freleng. That follows a common guideline of the Infobox film, recommending not to retrospectively alter screen credits to accommodate name changes at a later date. If I could make a suggestion, we should try to do the same effort in other articles where feasible. What does anyone think? Valdx346 (talk) 18:36, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Director credits 

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thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Looney Tunes and Merrie Melodies filmography]] 

message: Since WB is making the restored shorts available on HBO Max now, as opposed to releasing them on Blu-ray, should a note be added to the HBO Max availability of the shorts? Currently about 400 shorts have been added to the service. Jmj713 (talk) 13:48, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  HBO Max