Talk:Volodymyr Kubijovyč

message: This article is currently at start/C class, but could be improved to B-class if it had more (inline) citations. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk to me 21:18, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The article, of course, is written very mediocrely and is positively biased towards Kubiyovych, the author is trying with all his might to whitewash Kubiyovych's collaboration with the Nazis, using facts that are based on secondary or unproven sources, such as the fact that he allegedly stopped the massacre of Ukrainian peasants in Zamosc and tried to stop the Volyn massacre between Poles and Ukrainians, or an unsubstantiated assertion that allegedly his materials about the brutal treatment of Ukrainian peasants by the Nazis were used at the Nuremberg trials, but does Yad Vashem know that he allegedly saved 300 Jews? If so, why was he not given the title of Righteous Among the Nations? Цйфыву (talk) 15:48, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: B-class review

message: Shortly before the war (1939), Kubijovyč  was dismissed from the Jagiellonian University on political grounds. This is covered in this source. - GizzyCatBella🍁 08:21, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dismissal from the Jagiellonian University 

message: @Mhorg - this reference you just added. What text did it suppose to support? The JP article is about the street soon to carry his name, not a post stamp.. - GizzyCatBella🍁 21:08, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: In the article: "Should a road in Kyiv indeed be named after him, it will not be the first time that Ukraine has chosen to honor Kubiyovych. In 2000, a pre-stamped envelope was issued by the Ukrainian postal service in honor of the 100th anniversary of his birth, and in the Ukrainian city of Lviv, a plaque honoring the Nazi official still stands to this day." Mhorg (talk) 21:52, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Mhorg Oh yeah, I can see it now. You should include details about the street also, since the article is about it. - GizzyCatBella🍁 22:15, 11 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  New citation added 

message: @Mzajac As soon as Kubijovyč was the founder of Galizien division, why do You think the article doesn’t indicate his membership in the division? Founders of any organization eventually become first members even if they left that organization at some point. Borisenko-ru (talk) 21:29, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The creator of a military unit does not have to be a member of it, moreover, this is very rarely the case. Military units are usually created by politicians. If there was a category "creators of the Galizien Division" well then VK could be added to it (but I don't know if such a category would meet the requirements of WP:DEFINING). Marcelus (talk) 21:37, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

text: That is an example of WP:OR or WP:SYNTH based on an unfounded assumption, if you can’t support the statement with sources that explicitly state the claimed fact. I’ve never seen Kubijovyč referred to as a soldier or commander, holding military rank, wearing a uniform, giving or receiving military orders, fighting in the unit, or anything else that might even actually imply that he was a member (although that may still be insufficient to state that he was), so I find the proposition dubious on the face of it.  —Michael Z. 15:59, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not many documents are available for research. But for now the fact of membership could be confirmed by this article. Borisenko-ru (talk) 06:40, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: W:WSWS: the Trotskyist website is really only considered reliable to cite what the Trotskyists say. The article on the World Socialist Website quotes a reliable source: “pro-Putin, pro-Assad and 'left-wing' propaganda" combined with "gutter journalism ... run by a 'Trotskyist' cult ... which perpetuates a long worn-out tradition of inter-Trotskyist sectarian quarrels in fulfilling its role as apologist for Putin, Assad, and their friends.” —Michael Z. 14:56, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for clarification @Mzajac. I`ve got Your point. Borisenko-ru (talk) 18:25, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Membership in the Galizien division