Talk:Camel's nose

message: --CopyToWiktionaryBot 02:11, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
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message: This article should be dab because the phrase refers to two concepts which already have identical articles. Consider it a merge where there is no content to merge. On what basis do you think the article should belong by itself? It does not assert its independent notability/relevancy. 
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message: I am not really an expert, but the quotation about "A journey" is equally attributed 
*to Confucius  (eg. see wikiquote:Laozi#Attributed, as transl. from 万里之行始于足 下) 
*and  to  Lao Tzu's Tao Te Ching  (see wikiquote:Tao Te Ching (Wikisource translation), Chapter Sixty-Four, "A far-reaching journey is begun from a small step" as transl. from 九層之臺起于累土) 
And here I see 千里之行始于足下 . In other words, our wikiquote needs thousand li to go to become believable.
I am well aware that internet is one huge pile of garbage, if you don't knw where to look. Therefore I would really like to have a solid reference, not precluding the possibility that one of these Chinese simply quoted another one. `'юзырь:mikka 06:03, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm. I think the Confucius attestation is likely the older. Also, the oldest Lao Tzu text discovered archaeologically at Guodian (Lao Tzu's Tao Te Ching A Translation of the Startling New Documents Found at Guodian by Robert G. Henricks, Columbia University Press, 2000 ) actually says something like "A building of great height starts with one spadeful of dirt" so it is likely that it was later harmonised with the Confucius version. They convey the same idea, but it seems likely to me that the Confucius is the original. --Fire Star 火星 06:22, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I forgot to mention that I wasn't previously aware of the Confucius version, hence my edit. --Fire Star 火星 06:25, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I forgot to sufficently strongly explain that the information I provided here is unreliable (as most of internet), and I am not saying that Confucius did say something like this at all. I am saying that  some unknown people say "Confucius say", so don't worry here. `'юзырь:mikka 07:27, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "A journey" has been removed. Nurg (talk) 11:18, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "A journey"

message: I would also really like to have a reliable reference from profesional folkloric source about the allegedly Arab saying (as opposed to Scudder's). The one which refers to sources at least several hundred years back. I am beginning to suspect that the camel's nose was invented by this Scudder guy :-) And I do know precendents of such pseudo-folkloric root-attribution. `'юзырь:mikka 06:17, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ref for Arab saying