Talk:Frank G. Zarb School of Business

message: How about some ranking related info regarding the b-school? I know it's a very solid school (as I received an MS from there) and this page should have some type of quantifiable data to reflect that.
--24.189.35.249 (talk) 19:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I remember looking at the rankings a year or two ago, and it wasn't in the top 50 of any list, nor was it ranked int he top regional b-schools of any list.  If you can find a bona fide ranking, then sure. MBisanz talk 19:31, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Thanks, since I'm a current MBA student there, and that makes me a bad person to judge a source, I've taken it to our fact-vetting board at WP:RSN to get an impartial view.  I'll get back to you here in a day or so. MBisanz talk 23:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The response was that it would need to be a more well-known ranking system like US News, Businessweek, etc.  MBisanz talk 20:01, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Then I've probably seen you in class :).  I know there aren't that many Quant Fin majors.  My suggestion since that book is a Reliable Source is to write up an addition, cite it by filling this in    and then I'll find someone who can insert it. MBisanz talk 02:40, 25 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Hi MBisanz. I got your message asking me to look at this, since you feel that you would have a COI inserting it yourself. My first thought is that a number of these business school articles have the flavor of advertising. However the paragraph over at Harvard Business School#Rankings looks like a good attempt. It includes rankings from several places, and it manages to work in some sourced criticism of the school as well. I realize it would be a lot of work, but do you think you guys could come up with a paragraph for Hofstra that is as well-balanced as the one for HBS?  Surely Hofstra is rated by the same services as those that scored Harvard. I haven't heard of this Arco guide, and merely saying Hofstra is 'Outstanding' doesn't tell us exactly where they fell (top 20? top 5?).  EdJohnston (talk) 05:00, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Ed, this is a tough one.  I know Hofstra is somewhere in the top 500 based on it being AACSB accreditted but its not in Princeton Review's top 290 , its not in these top 50 , its not in this meta-table , not in Business week  , according to USNews (I have an account), their unranked , Forbes is also unranked .  So other than a string of "It is unranked by X, Y, Z, Q, P, and rated outstanding by A, I don't think there is any hope of coming close to Harvard's level.  Since I asked you to eval the COI issue, I'll leave the editing (or not-editing) call to you. MBisanz talk 05:55, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

text: It sounds to me that you might be able to craft a paragraph that admitted they weren't ranked by the majors, but still have virtues. (Sourced virtues, of course). To include only Arco, without mentioning the other facts you just stated sounds a bit unbalanced.  Why don't you go ahead and propose some language here, and I'll take one final look?  EdJohnston (talk) 06:08, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "While the Zarb School of Business is not ranked by national publications such as Forbes [Forbes rankings] or US News[US News rankings], it is distinguished as being the first school on Long Island to offer an EMBA program [LIB article] and one of 169 business schools nationwide to receive the AACSB's Accounting and Business accreditations[AACSB listing].  Additionally, it has been noted in Arco Book's The Best Graduate Schools as being ranked Outstanding, on the continuum, Distinguished, Outstanding, Recommended." Lets try this. MBisanz talk 06:53, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Looks good to me!  I have added it to the text. Your paragraph includes a number of new references, and should add to the credibility of the article. I made it the second paragraph because there is a similarly-located 'Rankings' paragraph at Harvard Business School. EdJohnston (talk) 13:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
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