Talk:Chả lụa

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message: Is one banana leaf used to wrap a cha-lua, or more than one leaf? Badagnani (talk) 05:11, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leaf or leaves? 

message: *Move to Chả lụa. Actual Vietnamese spelling and there is apparently no prevalent English spelling. Another editor attempted to do a cut-and-paste move, but such moves are not permitted at Wikipedia. Badagnani (talk) 03:02, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, when that happens (it happens often), that means that only an admin can move the page, because there's already something there (a redirect) at the title you want to move it to. You can put a move proposal here, or, to have it moved more quickly, at the page move request page (Wikipedia:Requested moves). That way, it preserves the page's history. But first, it's usually best to make a move request at the discussion page of the article, so other editors can comment. Badagnani (talk) 03:38, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  So how long do we have to wait? Thank you for correcting my mistake.Eistube (talk) 03:50, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Sometimes I wait up to 1 or 2 years and nobody cares or does anything (if I leave a move proposal at a talk page that nobody looks at). But at Wikipedia:Requested moves, I think it should be just a few days. I think the page move seems okay, because most of the Vietnamese cuisine items are spelled with proper Vietnamese diacritics. Badagnani (talk) 03:55, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I just did it at Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Uncontroversial_proposals. Badagnani (talk) 03:56, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
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message: Chả in Vietnamese is fried or grilled meat. 
We have many dish with the name chả and they all involve some kind of meat that is fried or grilled. Chả cá is fried fish patty. Bún chả in North Vietnam is the equivalent of bún thịt nướng in South Vietnam (rice noodle with grilled meat). BTW, some people may think that chả must be fried chopped meat but I don't think so, because chả in bún chả isn't chopped, it's only grilled. So chả is just meat that is fried or grilled.
Giò in Vietnamese is soft minced meat. Bánh giò is the Vietnamese cake filled with soft minced meat. Please don't mistake this word with "giò" as in leg, foot. I believe they are homophones.
Chả giò is fried minced meat roll. Northern Vietnamese call it "nem rán." The word "nem" here simply means "meat." We have nem nướng (grilled meat), nem cuốn (rolled meat), nem chua (sour meat)...
Therefore, with the same food, but Northern Vietnamese call it "giò lụa" (silky soft minced meat) and Southern Vietnamese call it "chả lụa" (silky fried meat). Both are fine as the meat is both fried and minced.
Sunnyrain90 (talk) 04:40, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Meaning of Chả and Giò

message: As the article said: "The most well-known giò/chả lụa comes from the village Ước Lễ, Thanh Oai, province Hà Tây", in Ước Lễ they call this delicacy giò lụa, not chả lụa (Southern dialect) so I change the name from chả lụa to giò lụa in order to avoid confusion (Ước Lễ also produces another speciality called chả, but not the one described in this article). Source (in Vietnamese). Grenouille vert (talk) 14:10, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
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