Talk:Chevrolet Chevy II / Nova

message: How do you determine if original SS or not?
--Clrusher 04:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  1972 Nova SS ??? 

message: * The second generation styling (1966-1967) was significant enough to warrant it's classification as different than 1962-1965, as the changes were not a "minor restyling". While the chassis components are indeed interchangeable between 1963 and 1967 inclusive (some 1962 chassis components are 1962 only), all of the body components and trim are very different for 1966-1967. TR - owner of a 1963 Nova SS convertible, 1965 Nova sedan, 1967 Nova sedan. July 25, 2010. ***  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.162.133.78 (talk) 15:41, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question, but isn't that the commonly accepted nomenclature?  Or have I gone completely mental, which is entirely possible?  If it's the former, it would be a good question for the Nova list.  If it's the latter, somebody smack me. ⇒ BRossow T/C 22:23, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it is common nomenclature only to the taped-glasses portion of the Nova crowd. :-) Nova SS 22:44, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

text: After futher discussions on the Nova list, it seems likely that the '62-'65 and '66-'67 chassis are virtually idenical. If that is the case, I think it is needlessly blunt to separate the '66-'67 into its own generation. They certainly deserve a special callout, but that's it. Nova SS 17:42, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not seeing a consesnus on the Nova list discussion for them not being a separate generation; in fact, I'm seeing just the opposite, if anything.  My inclination is to let it stay as-is for the time being with a potential eventual resolution being to remove generational identification altogether.  Just MHO.  ⇒ BRossow T/C 23:13, 1 February 2006 (UTC)

text: And that is why I think separating the '66s and '67s as their own generation is a pinheaded, propellor hat distinction. For all practical purposes and intents, they are the same car as the '62-'65. At MOST, I think they should be distinguished as a revision within the same generation. Nova SS 15:51, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But with all due respect, if you're the only one who feels that way and a large group of Nova owners does not, I'd say that the large group consensus must take precedent. ⇒ BRossow T/C 22:08, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Second" Generation 

message: The text implies that the name changed to "Chevy Nova" in '69 and then to "Chevrolet Nova" in '70. Are you sure the official designation didn't become Chevrolet Nova in '69, with no change thereafter? See this ad:  Nova SS 23:28, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just fixed this before seeing your note. :-) ⇒ BRossow T/C 14:43, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  '69 and '70 names 

message: A recent issue of Hemmings Motor News featured an article on collectibles for under $3500, and the following made the list:  1975-79 Nova, and 1973-87 Chevrolet/GMC C/K series.  
Most of the 75-79 generation is over 30+ years old, and the restoration industry does not seem to care about these vehicles at all.  Only the mechanicals e.g. suspension, small interior components are listed in both X and second-generation F-body (Camaro/Firebird) resto catalogs.  Back then, it was not cool to own a 75-79 X-car along with the Dodge Aspen although the GM X-car was a better choice than the poor-quality control Mopar counterpart (e.g. rusted fenders and body panels, Lean Burn).  One has to browse smogera.com and view the '70s iron which would be deemed the lowest point in automobile history...Montrose Patriot 07:10, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  1975-79:  A Forgotten Generation? 

message: Hi, I just bought a 1969 nova, and it has the chevy ll badge across the front of the hood. Did some 1969 nova's come from the factory with this badge? There are no other chevy ll badges on the car. Thanks rick.
:Chevy dropped the Chevy II name for Novas after 68.  69 and up should have the bowtie logo on the hood.  Perhaps at some point a previous owner thought it would be cool to add it on, or the original hood was smashed and the repair shop put your current one on.  Either way, as a 69, it shouldn't have the Chevy II.  Hope this helps.  --Brownings 22:00, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  1969 Chevy II?

message: Well that's about the least flattering picture I have seen for this car. I don't know the standard wikipedia guidelines on what picture should be the main article picture, but I feel that the one that most represents the vehicle should be. I'll admit I've been duped when people told me they had a Chevy Nova, and pulled up in a Toyota Tercel-looking box on wheels (no offense to the owners). But the first image that pops into my head is that of a 1969 Nova, not the last model of the car that lead to its demise. Zchris87v 20:04, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No objection, as long as the Corolla version is suitably illustrated and as long as the image put up top is high-quality and non-redundant. IFCAR 11:34, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main picture 

message: The reference to the urban legend: "no va" is mentioned in another section and is ambiguous and redundant in this section. My preference would be removing that entire paragraph.Bruno 10:00, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Novas abroad 

message: I agree, the section on the 85-88 Novas should be made a separate article and made into a page called 1985-1988 Chevrolet Nova. 
Pam1855  —Preceding comment was added at 18:08, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no precedent for such a move. There aren't different articles for Chevrolet Malibus or Impalas, or Ford Thunderbirds, or virtually anything else. Strongly oppose. IFCAR 03:28, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about merging back? I'll see what I can do... PrinceGloria (talk) 13:04, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done - can somebody perhaps try to better integrate it into the article? The entire article could also use some touch ups, though the situation is not as dire as in most cases... PrinceGloria (talk) 13:27, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know why you didn't just call it the fifth generation, following the precedent of other resurrected Chevrolet nameplates like the Impala and Malibu. IFCAR (talk) 14:33, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please rename, no agenda here. I'd prefer chassis/development codes anyway (GM/GMX if applicable). PrinceGloria (talk) 15:02, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  1985-1988 Novas 

message: So, I am learning what I can about Novas from 1962-1974. So far I think i am remembering most of what I am reading/learning. 
I was reading the Chevy II page and the first sentence under "Third Generation" heading says that in 1968 the two-door convertible was discontinued as a body style.
Is this a typo (supposed to say two-door hardtop)? Weren't convertibles only an option in 1962 & 1963? 
I could be way off here, cause, like I said, I am just learning, and I know that Wikipedia is probably not the best place to find and memorize info from, but I guess if I find things like this and question them, right or wrong they are probably more likely to stick!!! 
Thanks for any help you can give me on this.
~~ChristyLynn (Christy1027)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Christy1027 (talk • contribs) 06:34, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Third Generation" Paragraph 

message: I could have sworn that when I was a kid I saw some Novas that when going straight would actually appear to be at an odd angle, and it appears that I am right about that. See http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a2_352a.html. Would that be worth incorporating into the article, as I recall it being fairly common and notable? After all, I came here to look for it. 76.124.78.88 (talk) 08:43, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Sidesaddle" issues 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Death Proof.jpg

message: Shouldn't this page have a note at the top about confusion with the Vauxhall Nova, which is also a GM product?(86.31.188.36 (talk) 02:20, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vauxhall Nova 

message: I recently put up a notable appearances section that was cited and confirmable. But it was removed, I was just looking for some clarification why. It followed the same format as the Camaros notable appearances and was far more extensive and impressive. 72ChevyNova (talk) 17:02, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Appearances 

message: There seems to be a disconnect between the urban legend debunkers and marketing experts as Chevy Nova sales in Venezuela and South America. The debunkers first affirm that the product was indeed sold in Venezuela as Nova, acknowledged the Spanish language can quickly understand 'No Va' to mean 'Doesn't Go', and that the product was quickly removed from the South American markets (replaced by the Caribe I believe). 
The issue that Marketers have is that a poorly chosen product name especially one that instantly triggers a negative response (even if it is a comical remark like nova sounding like No Va.) This is an immensely stupid move by Chevy which does hurt marketing factors too numerous to cite.
I can only surmise that because Chevy lowballed the initial sales expectations which Venezuelan sales exceeded (but just barely mind you.) that somehow this was enough to prove it an urban myth. By that logic I concede it, though I find it a simplification.
Right now American car companies are trying to branch out into Chinese, Korean and other Asian markets and are very, very careful about the importance of translation, even abandoning established product names due to the same problems that arose from the Nova/No Va situation.
I just wish that the article would remove the claim altogether.
Thank you for your time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.163.8.125 (talk) 05:00, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myth about the Debunking 

message: The Chevy II/Nova 66-67 models are not referred to as the second generation for a body restyle. Example #1: Impalas had new body styling every year from 61-64 (common in the 60s especially on full-size cars) and that period is referred to as one generation; the car was not redesigned until 1965. Example #2: 67-69 Camaros. The 69 had new sheet-metal but the 67-69 is the same generation. The 70 Camaro was redesigned. Example #3 The 66 Chevelle had a body restyle also but 64-67 models are the same generation. The 68 Chevelle was redesigned. The 64-67 Chevy II is the first generation (even with new sheet metal for 66-67); the 68-74 is the first redesign, and second generation (even with new sheet metal for 73-74). The 75-79 was the second redesign, (and third generation); the 86-88 was the reintroduction of the nameplate (and fourth generation). Vegavairbob (talk) 03:53, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The above is somewhat incorrect. 1966-1967 Chevy II and Novas are commonly accepted to be the second generation of Chevy IIs. Comparing Chevy IIs to Camaros, Chevelles, Impalas, or other GM vehicles simply will not yield directly proportional results. While the chassis components are generally the same for 1963 to 1967 Chevy IIs (1962 had some "one year only" chassis components), the body styling in 1966 and 1967 was vastly changed - this warrants the classification of the 1966 and 1967 as the "second generation". The "third generation" begins in 1968, and the 1968 was the last year of the "Chevy II" designation. Please see www.novaresource.org and www.stevesnovasite.com for additional discussions about the history of the Chevy II and Nova. I must say that this is the first time I've found that a knowledgeable car enthusiast refers to the 1966-1697 Chevy IIs as "first generation" - this is clearly the exception rather than the norm.  TR 25 July 2010.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.194.6.32 (talk) 16:38, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  First time for everything..Surprise! I would have thought the generations are selected with the same criteria for all car lines. The 61-64 Impalas are considered one generation with  "vastly" diffferent styling from 61-62. Both the Camaro and Chevelle have similar situations. Why the Nova generations are selected differently, especially singling out only two model years for a body restyle is beyond me, and I'm not sure if I aggree with it. I believe the 66-67 Nova enthusists had a lot to do with it...possibly the fact that the 66-67 body-style was taken from a concept car. I will change the article subject to a verification of the proof. If I discover other sources that disagree I will start a discussion for concensus. Vegavairbob (talk) 17:17, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  66-67 models 

message: Just for the record.
1962 - 1967
:*Chevrolet Chevy II 100
:*Chevrolet Chevy II 300
:*Chevrolet Chevy II Nova
1968 - 1979
:*Chevrolet Nova
:*Chevrolet Nova SS
Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 05:08, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct nomenclatures 

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message: An anon-IP edited the page to try to merge the fourth generation into the third but did it badly. I reverted it and he left a message on my User talk:Stepho-wrs#Chevy Nova page talk page saying that the so called fourth gen was really part of the third gen. Does this have any merit? Splitting generations and facelifts can be hard sometimes.  Stepho  talk  21:45, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fourth gen