Talk:New Testament Christian Churches of America/Archive 1

message: ~The initial author of the historical article can be reached at:  tracts@juno.com
Many have written more to this article since its initial version, so the above person isn't solely "responsible" for the article Hanako 15:21, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

message: Sometimes people should not be so narrow minded and be open to sharing with people bothsides of the story. This pages was made to tell about New Testament Christian Churches of America.  However there was an under-line of hate being shown. 
Is it a Christian thing to DOG out a churches effort to bring people to the Lord?
Just go back to Factnet, people there are negative and LOVE it. They LOVE being feed that trash!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.49.63.254 (talk • contribs) 
How is this supposed to show all sides of a topic or issue, and be written with a neutral point of view, when you are not neutral, but opposed to New Testament Christian Churches of America?
Please tell me how is this an 'encyclopedia' on this church?
Thank you —Preceding unsigned comment added by Georgiepoo (talk • contribs) 
:I personally can't say I have an opinion one way or another on this church or any other, but when people edit in blatant proselytizing or intentionally vandalize valid information or links on the page, it becomes merely a question of what is dictated in WP:VANDAL and WP:NPOV. I welcome any contributions you may have to the page, but anything added should adhere to the guidelines of the encyclopedia. If particular pieces of information are not factual, or need to be substantiated, there are numerous templates which can be added to the page, or a section of it, to request that sources or proper references be cited. If there is a particular point which is of contention, you could mention it here and perhaps the original author and yourself can discuss it and come to a compromise on how it should be worded, or if it should be included at all. Above all, WP:CIVIL. Thank you. -Dawson 20:37, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see nothing inherantly negative about mentioning that Mount Rainier is a potentially dangerous volcano, this is a documented fact, but it has nothing to do with the article at hand, and thus there is no real point to mentioning it in the article. Please familiarize yourself with WP:AGF. Not everything is an attack, and I would be happy to help you reword the article if there are other particular points that you find are not neutrally represented, but at the same time the article should never be an advertisement, it is an encyclopedia entry, it should claim the verifiable facts, and leave it at that. -Dawson 21:56, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two Sided 

message: What forms of media are allowed in NTCC? What are the restrictions, past and present? Loyalty, wouldn't your recent edit include all forms of movies and television? If so, I find your edit to be easily misunderstandable by the unaffiliated reader. Specifically, where you changed television and movies (are prohibited) to and the exclusion of visual media which would show sexual content or violence. Hanako 02:44, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Media 

message: I do not see the need to list the entire docrinal statement within this article if there is a link to such information. Tyworld 20:51, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doctrine 

message: 71.250.136.139, I don't understand your recent edit. NTCC outlaws co-ed swimming, and mixed bathing? Can you please explain? Hanako 01:26, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mixed Bathing 

message: Okay NTCC wants the doctrinal statement put in, outsiders do not. One issue is that the doctrinal statement does not cover the full spectrum of doctrines that NTCC follows. So, it's misleading to the public and to even their own members. It sounds very much like an advertisement for NTCC and not a factual listing of what they believe and adhere to. We are trying to build an encyclopedia article and not and advertisement. 
Plus, those who keep adding the doctrinal statement are also blanking other sections at the same time, which is vandalism.
161.155.177.104 just blanked valid edits that were made overnight, and deleted the mediation notification, which needs to go back. It would be one thing if the the doctrinal statement remained in the article, but the vandalism that accompanies those edits isn't fair. Hanako 14:31, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doctrinal Statement Fiasco 

message: Someone keeps blanking out this portion of the page.  That is considered vandalism.  Please stop.  Please take a look at the lutheran church or Assemblies of God.  Dont you think they have many enemies? yet at least it's a readable article.  this is not the place to put your one sided slants, you can do that on your counter-ntcc web sites.  this ought to be like reading an encyclopedia brittanica, very neutral in content. wwjd2009 14:38, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutral Point of View 

message: Mediation page is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediation/New_Testament_Christian_Churches_of_America%2C_Inc
I'm not sure what happens next. Hanako 17:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mediation 

message: please see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Pentecostal_Ho******_Church for a good article that i wouldn't mind reading in an encyclopedia that comes from a neutral point of view.  i may not agree with all of their practices, but i wouldn't expect to read all of their faults (in my eyes) in an encyclopedia.  this is a well written article, telling their history and the suchlike.
daddylonglegs2050 20:18, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Literary Purity 

message: Can you please go look at the article right now, and see that you have messed up the way it looks? Everything is over to the left, a ton of spaces inbetween everything, and when I fix the format you feel that I am changing content. 
Also, the portion about outward holiness is valid and documented by a major newspaper. If the reporter felt it was necessary to include it to explain the church to it's readers then it's necessary to include here as well. The reporter had NPOV and so does this article. No difference.
I think you're copying and pasting the entire article which is messing up the formating and text. Please make your edits within the form. Hanako 01:23, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wwjd2009