Talk:Metalocalypse/Archive 1

message: Should be Metalocalypse be catagorized as a black comedy?~~ Blindsnyper 21 November 2006 (UTC)
: Not even funny. If you're not going to be helpful, get lost. --Ryouga 04:18, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoa wait a minute, I may have missed something but the series does just gore, death, etc. funny.  It would fit to the definition and I can see where he comming from.  What's with telling him to get lose.  DarkGhost89 06:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, Metalocalypse is a black comedy. I guess Ryouga didn't bother looking it up and thought Blindsnyper meant black comedy as in Bill Cosby. Search4Lancer 08:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Black comedy

message: The section says that he has a myspace, was this referenced in the show, or does he actually have a myspace? Also, where does the notion that he is chronically depressed come from?
:The only "official" myspace pages for the band are the adult swim official site (maintained by Brendon) and the William Murderface page (maintained by Tommy).
:In the first episode Toki mentions having to "take a few personal days" to deal with his grief (over what was happening). Murderface gets all upset and says that he just took 5-6 personal days the week before-- Toki says he had been depressed about color. I think Skwisgaar mentions something about Toki's personal vacations in Performance Klok, as well. So I'm guessing that's where the "he's chronically depressed" comes from. :/
::In the IGN interview, Toki says that his inspiration comes from "Depression and wind." (Skwisgaar is inspired by hatred for his mother. Pickles is inspired by drums, and occasionally cymbals.)--Halloween jack 03:39, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Toki section questions

message: The show is now called Metalocalypse and needs to be changed accordingly in all links and referring links to the show. carpeNoctem 06:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This appears to have been completed. LK Thurisaz 20:31, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes. I noticed that and I am glad. TVGuide's listings need to get on the ball too. Strangely, they had the show title correct at first, but when the show actually aired they listed it with the old extended title. -carpeNoctem 07:13, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Show title has been changed 

message: "ear-melting heavy metal" is in there. For one, the vocals does not sound like heavy metal, as heavy metal is more sung than grunted. Two, "ear-melting"? That seems very biased to me, considering some people have much more an ear for metal, and it's NOT very hard, and it seems to be based soley on the opinion of the writer.
:You're right, it's a point of view, but the phrase is within a quote from the Adult Swim site, so it's not up to us to rephrase someone else's words. --TM 08:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree with TM that since the quote is from the Adult Swim site it shouldn't be changed. I also agree the music is not what I would classify as "heavy metal" either - it's death metal. The description of "ear-melting" seems to have been coined as a means to hype up the show in much the same way Brendon Small is later quoted as saying the show will be about "murder. violent violent murder. and metal." It's just chosen words for hype. --carpeNoctem 06:05, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Except the show is about violent violent murder. and metal. —Slicing (talk) 08:08, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Violent violent murder, metal, and a few jokes that only metalheads will get, including references to 3 Cannibal Corpse songs.--72.200.191.206 01:56, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biased? 

message: why the two most recent promos only? what about the 2 or 3 others that they've been showing for a few months now? also, "sung" being in quotation marks seems somewhat POV to me. cma 10:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah. There's a difference between singing and grunting. And this is death grunts, a legit form of vocal styles. -D14BL0 18:17, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

text: That is exactly the reason why I enclosed "sung" in quotes when I worded that - there is a difference between vocal delivery as D14BL0 has said. Some metal songs have what is called "clean" vocals with straight-forward singing and others have "death grunts" or "cookie monster" vocals. --carpeNoctem 07:36, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

text: The "promo section" used to contain descriptive information but most of those well-composed and thought out passages (written by myself) have been deleted by someone - so I agree that the promos section has now been rendered useless. --carpeNoctem 18:08, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  nitpicking 

message: Am I the only one who can't figure out the right way to pronounce the title of the show? Smart Mark Greene 22:34, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: replace the "ap" in "apocalypse" with "metal". there you have it. cma 00:33, 3 August 2006 (UTC)

text: meh-tuhl-ah-cuh-lips -D14BL0 18:15, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  pronunciation 

message: I've uploaded two Promo pictures for this article.  and . The second one is more official because it came straight from the adult swim website. There's also this one and this one, which also come from the adult swim website. I like the one we have now. If you can find any more pictures for this article, that would be great. dposse 18:25, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  pictures. 

message: Little section about quotes to put on the main article
We're here to make coffee metal
We will make everything metal
BLACKER THAN THE BLACKEST BLACK
TIMES INFINITY
--71.108.0.223 00:16, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: Is there any know explanation to why the band's name is 'Death Klok'? Other than they were trying to 'make clocks metal'?
:Conviently enough the day after Metalocalypse premiered an episode of Futurama "A Big Piece of Garbage" aired.  Where early in the episode Dr. Farnsworth presents his invention the Death Clock, which can predict the users death.  I wonder if there is any connection here. --Shimbozy 03:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is also an invention in the internet called the "DeathClock" which "predicts" the day when you will die and shows a countdown clock to that day.  Might also be connected in some way.  LK Thurisaz 13:14, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

text: here's my guess. Nearly every song features a riff based on fourths, which when played, sounds like the ticking of a clock. How do you make a clock metal? throw the word death in there somewhere, but spell it differently to be legally distinct from the band Deathclock. Intresting theory, may be 100% wrong though68.77.42.10 08:36, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

text: No, it's not at all likely. Not all the world's ideas have been spawned in television cartoons -- in fact, very few have been. The concept of a "death clock" predates Futurama by a good many decades at least. In fiction, it is something that predicts your exact time of death. The earliest example in fiction that I can think of is from Robert A. Heinlein's first ever short story, "Life-Line", written decades before the writers of Futurama were born, and is a possible explanation for the joke in that show. In reality, a death clock is a combination of statistics used for calculating when you will most likely die, see deathclock.com as an example.  --Boradis 02:29, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anyone know the source of the title name? 

message: the theme posted here is the old theme brendon made when he first started the very beginning stages of the show, well over a year ago. the newer, and official theme can be listened to and downloaded at dethklok's myspace
:which is another good argument to include the official Dethklok MySpace because I have the original theme and it is so minimalistic in comparison to the new improved final version of the theme. People really should be directed to the newer theme - show enthusiasts or fans of Brendon Small's overall work or just rabid Dethklok fans would really be only interested in a rough draft theme, not the inquisitive general public.  --carpeNoctem 16:51, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  brendonsmall theme link 

message: We know the show is about the band making things "metal" and their exsitance as it relates to the world.  But it appears there is a group of "government" or "world" officials who are closely monitoring the band and their possible (if not confirmed) existance due to resembleance of an ancient drawing (see "Curse of Dethklok" episode).  I'm guessing this will be a part of the show from now on based on seeing parts of the second episode?  Should this be included somewhere? LK Thurisaz 13:03, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot 

message: i received a myspace blog from the [dethklok myspace] that read: 
THE DETHKLOK ALBUM 
We're working in early stages on the album now.
We know very little at this point except it's going to be as METAL as it can fucking be.
In other news:
YOU FUCKERS KICK ASS!!!
YOU made METALOCALYPSE the number one watched show in it's time slot!!!!!
Spread the word of the METALOCALYPSE and help to take over TV!!!
We have 20 mother fucking episodes for YOU!
We will making everything METAL!!!!!!!
METAL.
- Nathan Explosion
''
so maybe there could be a sectiopn or page on this. Eirik Raude 21:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably best to wait until there's more information to start a new section in my opinion. A mention in the trivia section might do for now? --TM 02:04, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: new info. on the dethklok myspace page, there was a bulletin advertising a new metalocalypse episode and ended stating info on the Dethalbum soon. and today after flipping around the internet, i stumbled on this wallpaper on the album swim site. here could this be a possible album cover? Patrick (talk) 05:01, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any information on who's producing? Roxanne Edits 00:26, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  album 

message: Is there any info on who writes/performs the shows music?
: Brendon Small is credited for all the music in the show's credits. Shimbozy 19:21, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's never been stated anywhere that Pro Tools endorses Dethklok. All of the other companies that endorse them appear at the end of the show.Karpsmöm 16:19, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Karps. There is no reference to Protools in the 'Dethklok use' section of the credits, and the only reference that has ever been made to Protools is one throwaway reference in a joke, which is not the same as endorsing by a long shot. The Kinslayer 16:23, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Musical talent 

message: kudos on the addition of this one. this was one of the first things the boyfriend and i noticed about the characters, and i actually asked brendon about this at this year's san diego comic con. it's rather funny to see it added to the wiki. cma 02:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I thought the similarity was uncanny, so I added it. There was a actually a thread about on the HevyDevy Forums, and Devin's wife Tracy responded about it. She seemed very upset that a character so similar in appearance to Devin would be a violent idiot. Apparently SYL management negotiated to get it changed. I would link the thread in the article, but you have to be a forum member to view it. --Burbster 02:12, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: didn't hear about that. i figured they were going to have to change the design, since pickles was honestly quite close to a charicature of devin back then. not to mention how my question was carefully avoided, heh. do you think that tidbit should be included in the article? cma 06:27, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, why not? Enough people seem to have noticed (including HDR, the forums and SYL's management) and let's face it, the similarity definately is strong between the original design and how Devin Townsend appears in many of SYL photos --Burbster 10:43, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  pickles/[[Devin Townsend]] resemblance 

message: I think it would be neat to treat this section as separate from the context of the show and pretend just within this section of the wiki that Dethklok as a band actually does exist (and not add any of the voice actor or crew and cast information to this part). Perhaps here we could include the link to their official MySpace, mention of the upcoming album and other such information in addition to the names and positions of the band members and their product endorsements. --carpeNoctem 17:58, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can't do that. Improper style. It's not a real band so we can't treat it as such. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 23:16, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, I think you misunderstood me. I was just talking about the section "The Band" within this article, not the entire wikipedia entry. Brendon Small has said in several interviews that he is treating the fictitious band within the show as if they are a real band. - therefore they have endorsements from real musician product companies, a MySpace band page, an actual planned album release, etc. I wasn't encouraging the entire wikipedia entry to treat the band like it actually existed. What is there now in "The Band" section I think is fine.
--carpeNoctem 09:55, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Band 

message: Right now it's listed as Black Metal. This should be changed to, at the very least, Death Metal. Aside from the corpsepaint, there's really nothing Black Metal about Dethklok whatsoever. The vocals aren't Black Metal, the guitarwork isn't Black Metal, the drumming, lyrics, etc. Even though they aren't pure Death Metal, that label would be much more fitting than Black Metal. X-pert74 02:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was death metal. An anon switched it. It's fixed. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 02:58, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dethklok's genre 

message: where does it mention these on the myspace page? please cite the direct source for this, and make sure it's not some random kid who was saying "this is who i think they might be based on". cma 03:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't be afraid to cut nonsense like that when you see it. I have a decided dislike for MySpace, so I wasn't willing to check up on it at first. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 04:34, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: i figured to just keep it until someone posted a source for it, since looking for things like that on myspace is a pain in the ass, and i could have very well missed something "official" somewhere--but that works, too. heh. cma 05:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

text:  actually it was on the page at one point but its gone now, i didn't notice but it was obviously just a blog from some fan. (Wiki-Wolf 01:04, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

text: okay, the abundant fan speculation about who the characters are based on cannot possibly be necessary. if someone FROM THE SHOW makes it clear who the characters are based on, then add it. if someone on myspace or the adult swim message board says, "i think nathan explosion is based on andrew WK", then don't add it. i am especially bothered by the way it's worded: "Other members of Dethklok are based on popular icons in heavy metal music." and then it goes on to list more fan speculation from myspace. cma 04:42, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  trivia: dethklok inspirations