Talk:David Emerson

message: I removed the sentence "He will still sit as a Liberal." at the end of the article, as this contradicts the information presented in the introductory paragraph: "Fourteen days later Emerson, who had not yet even been sworn in, crossed the floor and joined Stephen Harper's Conservative Party of Canada on February 6, 2006, the day that Harper was sworn in as Prime Minister."
What I'm not sure about is what "sit as a Liberal" means exactly (and why that was even put in in the first place). Does that mean that he'll still vote as the Liberal Party desires in Parliament? If that's the case, that sentence should probably be rephrased.
:: Ikusawa 03:01, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Sitting as a Liberal" means that the House recognizes the member as a sitting member of the Liberal caucus. Emerson, however, has in fact defected (have a look at the Library of Parliament's list of members for the 39th Parliament) and is not just an opposition cabinet minister (which, I should add, is extremely rare). TheProject 03:21, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't think it's a case of opposition cabinet minister at all. From the news article it seems he's sworn in directly as a CONSERVATIVE cabinet minister. --Kvasir 03:59, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He just spoke on C-PAC and had a news conference saying he is still a member of the Liberal Party and is sitting as a Liberal. --Cloveious 04:04, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sigh ... I thought he might try that angle.  I wonder if this means we have to redo all the recent changes.  CJCurrie 04:08, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm waiting for the tape loop on CPAC to come around again, they are showing the Induction Ceremony's at the moment, I will tape the David Emerson press conference, and hook my VCR up to the Video in port on my computer, to record the taped video feed, to document evidence of what he said. --Cloveious 05:13, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Emerson is a Harper Cabinet member, thus a member of the Conservative Party of Canada, thus a Conservate MP, he's crossed the floor. In other words, to all you Liberals out there, Emerson  pulled a STRONACH on you. GoodDay 15:31, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I think that he could have sat as a Liberal although the Liberal Party likely wouldn't allow this.  However I believe that one can not be a member of the government and opposition at the same time.  --JGGardiner 03:30, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sitting as a Liberal? 

message: I just want to point out that Emerson's press conference is comming up on C-Pac, right after Harper is done speaking. --Cloveious 06:11, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, well I recorded Mr. Emmersons comments, but the video file is nearly 800 megs, and the sound turned out barely audible, anyone know of any freeware that can convert avi video files to somthing else? --Cloveious 07:04, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you transcribe it? I caught the tail end of it but missed most of what he said. TheProject 07:06, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I will, i can have it transcribed by tommrow afternoon, unfortunetly I have to go work soon --Cloveious 07:35, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Emerson Comments

message: Any mention of the numbers in Parliament?  This now gives Harper enough votes for a bare majority with only Conservative and NDP support.  I assume this is the real reason he wanted one more MP.  No offence to Mr. Emerson.  --JGGardiner 06:26, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See 39th Canadian parliament. --Saforrest 07:03, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The independent, André Arthur, is certain to support the Conservatives unless they go on a morality crusade. —Cuiviénen (Cuivië) 21:19, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He'll likely support them on conservative things.  But not always.  At best, he's a wild card.  He's said that he wants to be like Cadman and gauge riding opinion on issues.  However, wherever Harper finds common ground is not likely to be a "conservative" issue.  So perhaps in electoral or parliamentary reform for example.  There's common ground there.  --JGGardiner 02:20, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Numbers

message: The Canadian Order of Precedence does not function as does that in the United States; the order does not determine who would "assume the role" of the prime minister in his or her absence.  I would recommend that we amend this page by mentioning that, while Mr. Emerson is third in the order of precedence of ministers, this does not entitle him to any preferential treatment over other ministers. FiveParadox 05:07, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues With the Order of Precedence 

message: 24.82.25.11 vandalised the article with a small edit: tiananmen. Weird.--Anchoress 02:49, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 72.141.132.137 vandalised the article with 'and is a douchebag', and 136.142.21.64 changed his name to 'Benedict Arnold'.--Anchoress 23:42, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Shouldn't it be mentioned that there was harldy any controversy when Belinda Stronach crossed the floor (not even close to what the media has done with this case) and the fact that there wasn't even an ethics probe?--Eupator 02:08, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe a short sentence, something like: The defection was considerably more controversial than Stronach's earlier move.  We have to be careful not to editorialize. -Joshuapaquin 02:15, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Belinda Stronach 

message: MacKay is third in line of succession to PM duties. The current line is Cannon, Prentice & MacKay. Therefore, Emerson is after MacKay. GoodDay 19:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, I was wrong Emerson is ahead of MacKay in Order-of-Precedents. GoodDay 20:08, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: MacKay & Emerson

message: I removed the part about Emerson being forth in the "order of succession" for two reasons: First, it seems intuitively wrong to me since it seems to imply this has something to do with the Order of Precedence. The O-of-P really only detirmines where you sit at state dinners and who gets to shake hands first with the Queen. I don't think there is any real order-of-succession for PM duties in Canada. Either the PM appoints someone (normally a deputy PM) or the goverment caucus would choose an interim leader. Secondly, the reference is a dead link, (and not in the wayback machine) so I can't tell what source this is based on. 
132.156.204.166 (talk) 13:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're correct. Canada has no "order of succession" as such. Nobody in the Canadian government automatically assumes the office of Prime Minister in the event of a retirement or death solely by virtue of their existing position — the governing party would be free to choose any new leader/PM it wanted to. The order of precedence is a ceremonial convention, and not at all the same thing as an order of succession. Bearcat (talk) 15:05, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Order of succession

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