Talk:Catharina-Amalia, Princess of Orange

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*Support - as nominator. Morhange 01:00, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
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message: Why aren't she and her sisters Jonkvrouw van Amsberg also? Why are their cousins indeed Jonkvrouw or Jonkheer van Amsberg also, and they are not? Demophon 04:40, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because as far as I know, the title is only inherited in the male line. Regards, Daimanta 23:49, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Amsberg comes from their father's father though, so it is in the male line.  Kings, queens, and princes/princesses don't need surnames.  Looking at the Countess Eloise of Orange-Nassau page, it seems that Jonkheer/Jonkvrouwe van Amsberg and the right to pass it down is something that is granted upon marriage.  So, for example, when  Prince Constantijn got married, a Royal Decree was issued that stated that his children would be Jonkheer/Jonkvrouwe van Amsberg.  In contrast, the Royal Decree issued when W-A got married said that his children would be HRH Prince/ss.  When Princess C-A gets married, the Royal Decree will probably look a lot like the one issued for her parents' marriage.  In contrast, when Princess Alexia gets married, a Royal Decree will probably be issued stating what surname(s) her children will use and likely giving her children the title count/countess and predicate jonkheer/jonkvrouwe van Amsberg, just like her uncle's children.  Ariadne55 (talk) 01:07, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Well, that depends. Alexia and Ariane's children might just have their father's surname (or a title, if either marries a fellow royal or noble). They probably can't, however, be Jonkheer/Jonkvrouwe van Amsberg, because that title passes through the male line, not the female line. Claus-Casimir can pass those titles to his children, but his sisters cannot. It is possible that Alexia and Ariane, as sisters of the future queen, will be treated the same way as Princess Margriet, and their children will be given the titles Prince/ss of Orange-Nassau, (insert surname here). The same did not happen for Princess Christina, I think, because she married a Catholic. Alexia and Ariane's children may well not even get titles unless their spouses are Dutch, as happened with Margriet, but not Christina. Irene's husband was royal, so there was no need for additional titles. Anything is possible, but I don't think Alexia and Ariane's children will be made Jonkheer/Jonkvrouwe van Amsberg, because that is the girls' paternal surname; their will take their father's surname, so they could very well be created Jonkheer/Jonkvrouwe van Something, just not van Amsberg. Morhange (talk) 04:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: → https://zoek.officielebekendmakingen.nl/stb-2002-41.pdf . YF, LeoDavid (talk) 11:28, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Jonkvrouw van Amsberg?

message: If this girl is "Hereditary Princess of Orange", why isn't she at Catharina-Amalia, Hereditary Princess of Orange, reflecting how other Hereditary Princes/ses are titled? DBD 11:18, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
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message: Her Royal Highness shouldn't have the Lady of the Order of the Gold Lion listed until she actually is awarded it. 74.69.121.132 (talk) 13:56, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
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message: How is Orange not her agnatic house, agnatic means through the father, she inherited membership of the house of orange from her father not her mother, it should be orange (agnatic) and her mothers name as the enatic.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.18.192.18 (talk) 19:08, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Because the current Dutch royal family are not male-line descendants of the house of Orange-Nassau. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 07:18, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
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