Talk:Reginald Pole

message: 2nd paragraph:
... he represented Henry VIII in Paris in 1529, persuading the theologians of the Sorbonne to support Henry's divorce from Catherine of Aragon.
5th paragraph:
... Pole withheld his support and went into self-imposed exile in France and Italy in 1532...
Can this get clarified? I was under the impression that he did NOT - at any point - support Henry VIII marriage annulment.
--natz 16:19, 4 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange Contradiction 

message: I was a bit shocked to see that this page had existed for years without a single mention of Cardinal Pole's (major) share in the persecution and burning of Protestants, which is by any standard the most important thing which he did. I just came across this aticle by chance and added a reference, it should have been done long ago (when the article was first written, actually!). Adam keller 06:21, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Burning

message: I think a work of great scholarship should be added to the bibliography of Reginald Pole, namely, Thomas F. Mayer, Reginald Pole: Prince & Prophet (Cambridge: Cambridge University Press, 2000)[Roy H. Piovesana, 11 September 2006]
Is there any explanation in the book for the odd coincidence of his death just after the queen's? That deserves some comment - especially since it turned out to be so convenient considering how vulnerable he would have become to the attacks of his enemies once Elizabeth was queen. Was he in poor health or could he have been poisoned?--AssegaiAli 13:12, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Scholarship

message: This article is strange.  Some points make him look like a saint, others like a demon. Pole was very much a man of his time with all the positives and negatives that went along with that epoch.  I will work hard to balance this article and I ask others to work with me to that end.SECisek 09:44, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bias

message: In this Vatican document Archbishop Coggan is always refered to as the 'archbishop of Canterbury'. He may or may not be a priest in the eyes of Rome, but he is certainly the archbishop of Canterbury in the opinion of the pope. -- SECisek 15:42, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Last Roman Catholic archbishop of Canterbury

message: The template in use on this page, has Thomas Arundel which needs to be disambiguated to Thomas Arundel (archbishop).  I have been and updated the template named on the page , however, it is not reflected in this article.  Can someone please give the template a shove and see what can be done to update it.  Thanks. --billinghurst (talk) 16:31, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It needed a 'null edit'.  Done. --billinghurst (talk) 01:52, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Archbishops of Canterbury template

message: John Foxe's Acts and Monuments (or the Book of Martyrs) was published in English in four editions during Foxe's lifetime: 1563, 1570, 1576, and 1583.  1563 is significantly shorter than the other three editions (and is rather more disorganized), so that edition may not be the best one to cite.  At the very least, there is no 1568 edition, so I propose changing that bit of misinformation.
143.167.189.187 (talk) 11:23, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: John Foxe

message: Pole is also featured in "The Tudors" TV series.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Slugguitar (talk • contribs) 18:38, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fiction 

message: I removed this:
In 1557, Pope Paul IV imprisoned him in the Castel Sant'Angelo (with others, including  Egidio Foscherari and Giovanni Morone), on suspicion of being a Lutheran. The prosecution entirely failed. 
Pole never returned to Italy to be imprisoned. Had he returned, he probably would have been imprisoned.
John H Percival (talk) 11:03, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  1557 Imprisonment 

message: After his return he became Vicar at Piddletown, Dorset, between 1532 and 1535. 1536, but who's counting? More seriously, this is likely to be misunderstood: Pole continued to hold all his other benefices too; he was a non-resident pluralist on a grand scale (and was not ordained). In addition to everything else, therefore, Vicar is the wrong word; Pole had a vicar - I trust in priestly orders - who presided at Piddletown for him. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 22:48, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this misconceives the word 'vicar'. Pole was admitted as Vicar of Piddletown on 20 December 1532 and undoubtedly was vicar there, but he seems to have been an absentee, in which case we can suppose he had a curate on the spot, rather than a vicar. Shall we change "he became Vicar at Piddletown" to "he held the benefice of Vicar of Piddletown"? Moonraker2 (talk) 23:16, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: A reasonable wording. There were several other benefices not yet listed. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 23:51, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Became Vicar?

message: There are issues with the dates in "Pole, ..., was finally ordained as a Priest on 20 March 1556 and raised to Archbishop of Canterbury in 1555": to make things worse, French Wikipedia says "Pole fut enfin ordonné prêtre le 20 mars 1557".  I suspect that there are questions over the English Julian calendar (new year at the end of March) and the difference between announcement and consecration, but they need explanation.--Rumping (talk) 04:39, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Priest and bishop

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The "Cardinal Pole" section starts "In 1537 Pole, already a deacon, was created a cardinal". The last paragraph of that section says "Pole was made a cardinal by Pope Paul III in 1536". DuncanHill (talk) 00:42, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction - date became a cardinal 

message: Presumably the inscription on the first portrait identifying the subject as a French cardinal was added erroneously? The picture belongs to the Museum of Fine Art in Budapest, and they seem confident that it portrays Pole. Pluquamconquestator (talk) 11:30, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whose portrait? 

message: I was curious was they much in a way of documentation of how he was either treated by protestants or how he was in regards to dealing with members of the protestant faith  TeddyRooFan1! (talk) 00:14, 12 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protestants 

message: Just for clarification, Reginald Pole did not have his exile revoked until after Queen Mary I and Phillip II wed? and because they thought he may object to the marriage therefore, repealing his attainder was delayed? Thats very interesting. Historianmummy (talk) 05:16, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Later Years 

message: Just to point out that the article makes no mention of the Venetian nobleman that Pole lived with for 30 years. I see there is a plan to work this up to GA, so a more rounded view of his life and activities would include his reforming efforts in Italy. I became aware of the wider Pole through Ramie Targoff's recent biography of Vittoria Colonna, which isn't a bad source of references. I am currently exploring a different rabbit hole, but I leave a note for anyone interested. Fiddlersmouth (talk) 00:22, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alvise Priuli