Talk:Zionist Occupied Government

message: The aryan nations deserve mention here. if you would like to discuss the usage of the term by others, feel free. But please don't censor the attributed opinions of other important sources of usage of this term.  13:20, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The text that I removed, and my reasons for doing so:
1. Aryan Nations describes Jews as "the natural enemy of our Aryan (White) Race. This is attested by scripture and all secular history. The Jew is like a destroying virus that attacks our racial body to destroy our Aryan culture and the purity of our Race."
*I fail to see how lessons on the theories of the Aryan Nations group are relevant to the concept of Zionist Occupied Government. The opinion of one group on what 'Jews' are is not related to the theory of ZOG by any stretch of the imagination. Mention the Aryan Nations group as the origin of the term, fine. But this term now extends far beyond one very distinct group and to imply that it does not is misleading.
2. Supporters of the ZOG premise often contrast the "tyrannical" actions of the Zionist Occupied Government with the supposed freedom-loving Christian purity of white Americans, as in the example of Pastor Carl Franklin of the Aryan Nations. He was quoted in an April 21, 1993 article in the British newspaper The Guardian as saying that "[y]ou have the tyranny of a Zionist occupation government coming foursquare against a Christian, American white family."
*This is a generalisation of what 'supporters of the ZOG premise' believe. Religion is not relative to this political theory.
3. Citing the Book of Revelation, Aryan Nations envisions a "battle" being fought "between the children of darkness (today known as Jews) and the children of light...the Aryan Race, the true Israel of the Bible." There will "soon" be a "day of reckoning," in which "the usurper will be thrown out by the terrible might of Yahweh's people, as they return to their roots and their special destiny." In this struggle between the Jews and "the children of light," Aryan Nations says that the Jews have a surrogate: the Zionist Occupied Government of the United States.
*Again, this is entirely irrelevant. It's an encyclopedia, not the Bible. If you must keep this opinionated trash on this page, which is about a political theory, and not on a separate page dedicated to the Aryan Nations group, there should be a Debated Neutrality notice posted at the top. We might want to add some info about... Oh, I don't know... alleged Zionists in the government? Hm?
--Rapunzel 14:07, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

text: Maybe you might, I'm only interested in the term, its usage, and the history thereof. If you have more info to add, please do, but be mindful of original research. If you must dispute the page, feel free, but I think you will find that there is concensus that these particular passages are of merit here. I do agree that more content might well be added, but thus far, I don't see you doing that, although I encourage such.  14:21, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)

text: Attempts to separate the "political theory" of ZOG from its religious roots are disingenuous.  The people who promote this belief do so on biblical grounds, among others, and they typically don't differentiate between "Jews" and "Zionists". Jayjg  | (Talk) 19:46, 23 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aryan Nations