Talk:Water/Image discussions archive

message: I'm not comfortable with the image of an unnnamed underage girl being used to illustrate an article of which she is not the subject.  I'm sure there must e lots of lovely photoes of water, without needing to use images of children. Just zis Guy you know? 13:23, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see your point about the previous image, but I was not comfortable with not having any image there at all.  There were images further down in the article, but a screen full of text should not be the first thing you see when you come to an article about something like water, so I added an image of a beach.  No people in it at all.  It can be hard to find images without people in them. ONUnicorn 15:00, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The new picture shows 40% sand, 20% sky and only 40% murky ocean water. There surely are better pictures focussing more on water (preferably purer water, too).--Dschwen 17:19, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you think there are better pictures, then find one.  I thought the Ocean would be good because a very large percentage (97.2%) of Earth's water is in its oceans.  Why would purer water be a better picture than an example of the most common form water takes on this planet? ONUnicorn 14:32, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I like it (the Earth picture)!  Good choice. ONUnicorn 15:19, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good, it conveys your idea of showing ocean water as a major part of earth's surface pretty well. And on second thought I like it better than showing pure water :-) --Dschwen 15:40, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

text: How about this one - I think this shows the presence of water to good effect - MPF 21:34, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was me!! :D I've changed the whole article a lot recently, adding photos, science and rearranging and whatnot. Glad you like it. I think the pictures now really make the article, even if there are perhaps too many. I like the huron pic, as well as the spiderweb and the daisy ones, just found 'em while perusing. The waterfall pic is a featured on, I thought it should deffo be in this article, but I wasn't sure where. I moved it, does it fit better now? - Jak (talk) 14:46, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the new location for the waterfall! And you're right, the new pictures really do a lot to improve the article.  ONUnicorn 18:27, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: What sort of image should be used to illustrate an article about water?  Right now the article has many excellent images in it, as it should.  The main image, however, seems quite subject to change.  Just in the past couple months there have been 5 different images as the top, main image.  Looking through the edit history there have been a good many more at various points in time.  What's the best way to illustrate water?  What should be the first image people looking up "water" in Wikipedia see?  Should it be a diagram of the molecule?  Should it be an image showing the way people use water?  Should it be a lake?  Should it be the ocean?  Should it have other things in the picture besides water?  Since this seems to be a point of controversy and disagreement, and since Wikipedia is all about consensus, I propose a poll.
Following are a selection of images which, at various points in time, have been used as the top image.  There are also a couple which, although they have never been used as the main image, are also quite good and perhaps should be considered.  Some pros and cons of each image will be listed.  Please sign your name using four tildes (~~~~)  under the image you think best illustrates the general concept of "water", preferably adding a brief comment to explain why that image is preferred over the others.   If you have an image you think better illustrates "water" than those posted here, please add it at the end and explain why.
===Image 1===
Pros: 
* Illustrates chemistry of water; if you know how to read a chemical diagram it says exactly what water is.
Cons: 
* There is a seperate article on the chemistry of water 
* Not everyone knows how to read a chemical diagram
* The image fits much better in the chemistry section of the article, where it is currently located.
Supporters of this image:	
===Image 2===
Pros: 
*There is little in the image other than water
*A great many people are familiar with tap water
Cons:
* It's a somewhat "boring" image when compared with some others
* Image is a failed featured image candidate
Supporters of this image:
*Herostratus 00:42, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image poll 

message: Pros: 
*There is little in the image other than water
*A great many people are familiar with tap water
Cons:
* It's a somewhat "boring" image when compared with some others
* Image is a failed featured image candidate
Supporters of this image:
*Herostratus 00:42, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Image 2

message: Pros:
* Image shows most common form of water on this planet (97.2% of Earth's water is in its oceans)
* Image is nominated as a featured image
Cons:
* Image is only 40% sand, 20% sky and only 40% murky ocean water (doesn't focus enough on water)
* Image "isn't a very good picture of the ocean" 
Supporters of this image:	
300px
# Johntex\talk 06:44, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Image 4

message: Pros:
* Shows all three common forms of water: liquid (in the oceans), solid (the polar ice caps), and gas (clouds)
* Does a good job of illustrating the extent to which water influences every single aspect of life on this planet (it's everywhere!)
* Image is a featured image
Cons:
* It shows land (Africa) as well as water
* It might confuse some readers as to what exactly the article is going to discuss
Supporters of this image:
*1. ONUnicorn 16:14, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Image 5

message: Pros:
* There is nothing in the image besides water
* It illustrates some properties of water in terms of how it reacts to being impacted
Cons:
* Could be mistaken for metal or glass 
* Somewhat "boring" when compared with others
* Failed at featured image nomination
Supporters of this image:
# -- Jeandré, 2006-07-14t21:12z
# David Kernow 15:45, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Image 7

message: Pros:
* It illustrates some properties of water in terms of how it reacts to being impacted
* It is not currently used elsewhere in the article
Cons:
* It is very similar to image 7
* Like image 7, it is a failed featured image candidate
Supporters of this image:
*1. I prefer it to Image 7, which could be mistaken for metal or glass. Art LaPella 18:36, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Image 9