Template talk:Johnny Cash

message: The Johnny Cash template which was created by through collaboration between me and User:Alcuin (as was the grand majority of Cash-related articles, primarily albums) has seen a few minor changes, but now a bit of an edit conflict has arisen. 155.94.62.221 restructured the template a bit, transferring section titles (Studio albums, Live albums, etc.) to the left, eliminating the title of the "Related articles" section and creating a separate section for the American Recordings series. Of course, my intention is not to start an edit war, but I think the old version should stay for several reasons, namely:
# Size. True, the two versions do not differ greatly in this respect, but still, the difference is noticeable. The size of the font also seems a bit inappropriate (too large), considering this is a template, and a huge one at that.
# Eliminating the Discography section with appropriate subsections seems like a bad idea to me. True, this version does give a clear distinction, but such is also the case with the previously accepted version; in fact, I'll risk stating that the older one was clearer in that it visibly separated albums of all sorts and other sections.
# The American series. True, it was, as far as albums go, probably the most distinctive phase in Cash's long career. However, despite the fact that the majority of Cash fans might think otherwise, they were still studio albums, and anyone looking for them can find them easily in the older template. In short, creating a separate section for the American albums is POV. Plus, with that logic, At Folsom Prison and At San Quentin should also be given special treatment, considering Cash's other live albums were nowhere near as popular. By the way, Unchained was in fact titled Unchained; calling it American II is not entirely correct.
# Minor things, like capitalizing "Albums" (ex. Studio Albums, Live Albums). But I'm not going to nitpick. However, Wiki links for all these must be included; especially "Family" linked to a page with a lot of detailed information, and adding a link makes it easier for all Wikipedians to get to that page directly.
# Above all (yes, I know this is also POV ;), I just think the previous version was slightly more aesthetically pleasing. Despite having more or less the same content, this one seems overabundant and would look strange on Cash-related pages. Also, a stable template for an extremely well-known band was used as a basis for the Cash template designed by myself and Alcuin, and it has worked well for some time now.
I noticed that Alcuin posted a message on your Talk page, 155.94.62.221, and seems to be in agreement with me on this one. If anyone else wishes to express their views on the matter, go right ahead. I apologize for any sloppiness in my arguments. Cromag 10:08, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'll take the liberty to revert once again. Of course, the template could be improved upon, but I don't think restructuring it is the way to go, as I mentioned. Cromag 15:36, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You know, instead of reverting to your own version numerous times, you could try to discuss the issue on this talk page, which would be easier for all involved. Cromag 09:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I don't think either of us object to changing the template.  We just don't like such sweeping changes without discussion.  You might prefer a different style, but the current template was the result of discussion and collaboration (and a lot of work by Cromag).  We'd appreciate your input, but there are more effective ways of influencing the way things look here.  --Alcuin 14:45, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed versions of template

message: I used this template as a base for the rewrite of several other templates (including  and  with more universities hopefully coming soon). About a week after I redid those two, they changed the way dropdowns were handled. Soooo..... as some of you may have noticed, the template no longer opens the section that is called in the parameter. I was finally able to look into the issue and I think I got it solved. I will fix this template sometime within the next week or two unless somebody else wants to take a stab at it beforehand. You can see the discussion at the Village Pump here or you can see the changes I made to the University of Oklahoma template here.↔NMajdan•talk 19:30, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.↔NMajdan•talk 14:01, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues with template 

message: I removed the link on the word "Family" which is a section header in this template. I removed just the link, not the header itself, nor any content in the family section of the template. The link directed to the Johnny Cash family article, which after much discussion on that article's Talk page, I am vacating and merging out into three other articles. This article (i.e., JC family) will probably be left as only a redirect page. This would have produced a faulty link (the section header) in all instances of this template. Hult041956 22:20, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of link on "Family" 

message: Not sure where it gets set up here, but in the Singles list there's "Cat's In The Cradle" which links to (and probably is) the Harry Chapin song. How does it get into this list? Because I believe it needs to be removed. --WestwoodMatt (talk) 15:19, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not sure about the content: cat's in the cradle? 

message: I've done some cleanup of the template, moving some releases that were incorrectly categorized (Johnny Cash: Patriot was a post-mortem compilation not a concept album). Since they are more recognized as gospel albums than soundtracks I put Gospel Road (which was already under gospel instead of soundtracks) and Return to the Promised Land together. 68.146.52.234 (talk) 15:19, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Revisions

message: One of Cash's albums is missing: the film soundtrack album, The Gospel Road. It should be included under the soundtracks header. 50.66.121.20 (talk) 04:37, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit request: missing title

message: Template is also missing the 1998 album VH1 Storytellers: Johnny Cash & Willie Nelson which would go in the Live section. 50.66.121.20 (talk) 16:16, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit request: second missing time

message: Does Ana Cristina Cash belong in this template? – Archer1234 (talk) 14:47, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ana Cristina Cash 

message: add to live albums:
VH1 Storytellers: Johnny Cash & Willie Nelson (1998) Cbcbcb4124 (talk) 16:22, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 13:54, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 30 July 2023 

message: There is an article for Thomas Gabriel (country singer), a grandchild of Cash. Should we include second generation family? ☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(ring-ring) 18:23, 1 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family depth/inclusion