Talk:Dissolution of the Netherlands Antilles

message: The whole section on the Monroe Doctrine seems to be original research. Is there any outside source, anywhere, discussing the Monroe Doctrine in relationship to the K3 islands? Kww 02:56, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is complete nonsens. I'll delete it. Maarten 22:26, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Research 

message: Guiana, Martinique and Guadeloupe already joined its mother state France long ago, e.g. Martinique joined France on March 19th, 1946. http://www.martinique.pref.gouv.fr/pages/histoireinstitang.html#codenoir
The "EU open border treaty" does not apply overseas regions. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schengen_Agreement#Inclusions_and_exceptions
91.23.94.70 05:17, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  violation of the Monroe Doctrine? 

message: Perhaps it would be better to give this a broader scope, the Dissolution of the Netherlands Antilles, with the eu status inside it as the minor change of eu status for a few islands is just one part of the end of this grouping of islands?- J Logan t: 11:31, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably wouldn't hurt. This article needs some updating anyway, since the dissolution has been delayed, there have been numerous notable controversies around the details of it, currency issues are still being debated, etc. I also note that Brigitte Kley has been used as a source, which I'm sure she will get a laugh out of. It isn't often that bed-and-breakfast owners get quoted as a source of political information.Kww (talk) 11:41, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: The figures for aseveral of the referendum results are cited to Dutch Wikipedia.  According to our guidelines, Wikipedia is not a reliable source for citations (not even Dutch Wikipedia), and external verification is required.  Can anyone provide these (even if they are in Dutch or Papiamento)?  Skinsmoke (talk) 21:20, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Referendum citations 

message: Do ISO (three letter) codes exist yet for those islands which are now 'separate' ?78.86.102.100 (talk) 18:05, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, not yet, but I guess the ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 code for Curaçao will be CW (since there is no other option under C, and since Aruba has AW--stands for West Indies I suppose), and the code for Sint Maarten will be SX (after SXM, the popular code for Sint Maarten and its airport). Fentener van Vlissingen (talk) 18:09, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: KO for Curaçao (after Kórsou) would of course also be possible. Fentener van Vlissingen (talk) 18:16, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I came here to ask this very question :)  I'll keep an eye on this doktorb wordsdeeds 18:55, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ISO codes, etc 

message: It is just a fanboy article by itself.  Needs to be with the main article. Housekeepers (talk) 18:34, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? Fentener van Vlissingen (talk) 19:23, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Please define what you mean by "fanboy". Otherwise, your request is meaningless. ~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 22:22, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

text: The "fanboy" argument has no real relevance here, whatever it was supposed to mean, as this is a genuinely notable topic. The main issue is can/should this article stand alone, and that is an issue of content. The tables on the elections are probably unnecessay, and could be replaced by text. If that is done, than the article as written could be merged into the main article without overwhelming the rest of the article. But if the tables are preferred, and if the article can be expanded some more, then it is probably best to stand on its own. - BilCat (talk) 23:53, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

text: The article has already been expanded today to the point where merging it would be impractical without overwhelming the article with the dissolution info. I thus support retain this as a separate article. - BilCat (talk) 21:27, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: This article should be redirected

message: Someone should explain the citizenship status in a bit more detail for us foreigners, focusing on practical considerations like passports and the right to move and take employment.  I see the article says that citizenship is not differentiated in the Kingdom and that island residents are EU citizens: does this mean that someone from Turkey can move to Aruba and get a job there, and vice versa? Wnt (talk) 20:49, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the wiki says that citizens of the 3 countries are EU-citizens; and there is no implication of other residents. But, as no citizens of the 3 countries exist (their is only one citizenship: Nederlandse (Dutch)), I will rephrase a bit... L.tak (talk) 20:57, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Heh.  Someone should start :Category:Countries with no citizens. ;) But does this also mean anyone from the EU can move there? Wnt (talk) 21:49, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be a great idea indeed ;-). But to answer the other question: the statement is not reciprocal. Any Dutch citizens has as EU-citizen the right to reside in the EU. However, because of the OCT status there is no automatic right for all EU-citizens to reside in the Caribbean part of the Kingdom. In fact, even those with a Dutch nationality and born in the country the Netherlands have no automatic right of abode in any of the antilles to avoid migration problems on those small islands (but then, automatic residence rights are not in place for islands like Ameland).L.tak (talk) 22:03, 11 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Turkey isn't a member of the EU yet, and it is probably still several years away from accession to the EU. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:49, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Freedom of movement 

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