Talk:Empress Xiaozhuangwen

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*Support.  I agree because this article has a much longer edit history than Xiao Zhuang Wen. --Neo-Jay 07:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
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message: *Support.  I agree because this article has a much longer edit history than Xiao Zhuang Wen. --Neo-Jay 07:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
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message: See Talk:Xiao Xian Chun and Talk:Xiao Yi Chun.--Niohe 01:44, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved to Empress Xiaozhuangwen (non-admin closure) >>> Extorc.talk 07:12, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Empress Dowager Xiaozhuang →  – There are two arguments based on which the page should be moved: WP:TITLECON and WP:COMMONNAME. 1) WP:TITLECON: The current title of this page appears to be erroneous as it's a combination of her title when she was alive (Empress 'Dowager' Zhaosheng) and her posthumous name (Empress Xiaozhuang), the latter of which does not include the word "dowager". The move would make the page consistent with how the other dowagers have been referred to posthumously (Empress Xiaoherui, Empress Xiaohuizhang, Empress Xiaojingcheng, Empress Xiaokangzhang; note that the pages on Ci'an and Cixi are titled after the names they used while they were alive and not their posthumous titles per WP:COMMONNAME, hence why they contain the word "dowager"). 2) WP:COMMONNAME: A simple Google search gives far more results for Empress Xiaozhuang compared to Empress Dowager Xiaozhuang. Some of the sources cited or mentioned within the article also refer to her explicitly as "Empress Xiaozhuang", such as The Green Phoenix: A Novel of the Woman Who Re-made Asia, Empress Xiaozhuang written by Alice Poon. The article gives the transliteration for her posthumous name as "Empress Xiaozhuangwen" (孝莊文皇后; Xiàozhuāngwén Huánghòu), but I leave that to people with knowledge of the Chinese language to determine if that would be a more appropriate title. Keivan.fTalk 03:54, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

text: Support per nom. Estar8806 (talk) 17:21, 21 February 2023 (UTC)

text: Relisting comment: Consensus to move, but unclear whether the article should be moved to Empress Xiaozhuangwen or Empress Xiaozhuang. Relisting for further input on this question. BilledMammal (talk) 06:49, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

text: *Good catch. But I only see one other empress, Emperor Xiaozhuang of Northern Wei. And considering Mucube's comment that there's also Empress Xiaozhuangrui and Empress Xiaozhang, I personally think "Empress Xiaozhuangwen" would be the appropriate title. Keivan.fTalk 20:59, 28 February 2023 (UTC)

text: *:I would also support Empress Xiozhuangwen over Empress Xiaozhuang Estar8806 (talk) 20:28, 5 March 2023 (UTC)

text: *:Support Empress Xiaozhuangwen. Srnec (talk) 00:39, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 21 February 2023