Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Visual arts/Archive 3

message: Thank you for your recent messages on my talks page. I deeply apologise for causing so much conccern, and thank you for your kind advice. As I understand there are 2 main concerns with my contrbutions, the first pertaining to style. I will postpone adding any more pages and study your edits, and will model any future contributions on the changes you've made. Your comments re: artwriting vs. encyclopedia writing are greatly appreciated and noted. I would like to continue to add pages for Wikipedia, as it is a resource I use often in my own work, and its expansion in the field of contemporary art I hope would be a benefit. As suggested on my talks page, perhaps the best way to approach this is by writing drafts which would be approved by the editorial committee before they are placed? Please let me know how, when, and if to proceed.
The second main concern appears to be with copyright. Most of the artists pages I've written to date are artists featured in the Saatchi Collection. In contributing these I am not working on behalf of the Saatchi Collection, they are just simply the first batch of artists I was hoping to contribute about; I've aso worked with many other museums and exhibitions and would like to move on to contributing pages for these artists as well in the future. I have spoken with the Saachi Collection and they are pleased to give copyright clearance for all text that might be in question. Please contact Kieran McCann at kieran@saatchigallery.com for confirmation.
Thank you again for all of your kind consideration. I sincerely hope that I will be able to continue to collaborate with Wiki, and again apologise for my misunderstandings. Any assistance and advice you could provide is greatly appreciated, and I look forward to learning more about Wiki procedure and standards, and continuing our communications.
Very best,
--Infoart 10:20, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've replied at User_talk:Infoart#Infoart Style & Copyright. Tyrenius 16:02, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

text: It might be considered a bit of a cheek, but we could always ask User:Infoart, being familiar with the types and styles, to lift a quote from the Saatchi Gallery references that gives an indication of the medium/movement, etc. LessHeard vanU 19:51, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that this is underway and other editors are involved, I definitely think we should be inviting Infoart to work with us. Tyrenius 13:39, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infoart Style & Copyright 

message: Please leave feedback to help Infoart with future contributions at the above location. Tyrenius 13:36, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[User talk:Infoart#Feedback]]

message: Thanks a million for setting up the feedback forum! This is so incredibly helpful. Will take all under advisement, and hopefully make big improvements. And also thanks for inviting me to participate in the editing/clean up. I really appreciate it, and can definitely use the practice. Very best, --Infoart 10:07, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest you clean up some articles and sign below. Then another editor can review, comment where necessary (or add to your feedback section) and "sign off" the article below, when they're happy with it. I should mention all of this is not a reflection on your writing as such, but on specific wiki policies which need to be met. Tyrenius 13:08, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thank You! 

message: *Tyrenius 13:59, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Users participating in the cleanup

message: List of articles started or edited by Infoart. Most recent at the top. This list is complete as of 25 May, 2007 from Infoart's contribution history.. Approx 185  articles (not all started by Infoart).
*Alisa Margolis done --Ethicoaestheticist 23:49, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles by Infoart

message: Ktm10 edits: this is resolved - no need for further attention. Tyrenius 05:35, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, if you're happy there's no need to look into them further. I suggest we keep here as a record but mark as "no further action needed". I had an earlier run-in with a couple of editors about a year ago over using Saatchi Gallery for promo purposes. It's on the article talk page. Tyrenius 01:33, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles by Ktm10

message: As I've been editing, it struck me that most of these articles, in addition to listing most or all  exhibitions the particular artist had been involved in, also list the exhibition titles. I'm personally okay with listing a selection of major gallery/museum/biennial appearances to establish notability, but do we need the exhibition titles as well? If it's Sensation, that's notable, but is the title of every show necessary? Is exhibiting at Tate Modern enough without giving the title of the actual show? I'm fine with the UK editors deciding which specific exhibitions in this list are notable enough to actually name, since some of us are rather removed from Mother Britannia, here in the backcountry of the Commonwealth, and don't get to see much of the YBAs and other Saatchi discoveries. Just wondering. Freshacconci 21:02, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO if it is linked and it is blue on the preview then keep, red then remove. The general readership, it may be assumed, will not recognise the exhibition but may do so the gallery. Again, if the same exhibition is noted on the cv of two or more subjects who pass our ad hoc notability test here then perhaps it may be worth keeping and making a article of when the current task is finished? LessHeard vanU 21:16, 1 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Further to above, I am removing the exhibitions but linking the galleries/mueseums even if they are red. Galleries are far more permanent than exhibitions (and artists, often) and may benefit from the same effort I proposed re multi referenced exhibitions above. LessHeard vanU 22:10, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, agreed. I think named exhibitions won't be notable, but galleries  may be, so - benefit of doubt - redlink them. Gordonofcartoon 00:45, 2 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Where an article includes "notable" exhibitions per listing below I suggest other exhibitions should remain, for continuity, and formatted as suggested (but no link created). LessHeard vanU 15:55, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A brief aside 

message: Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (titles) titles of individual visual artworks should be italicised, except sculptures, which should be in double quote marks. There was no mention of art exhibitions, so I've added that to italicised titles. See talk page. Single quotes should never be used, as they stop that material from coming up in the search result (unless that's been changed of late). Tyrenius 06:39, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Formatting titles

message: :I've added notability tags to several articles, although most should be deleted. A few recent group shows do not make an artist notable. Modernist 15:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Another aside

message: This list is not comprehensive, but relates particularly to articles started/worked on by Infoart as above. Tyrenius 12:35, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Group shows of note

message: Infoart has created draft articles on 
*User:Infoart/Draft article 1
*User:Infoart/Draft article 2
and asked for feedback. Tyrenius 18:06, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New draft articles by Infoart

message: Is it time, now, to tag this and put it to bed? I am quite willing to continue to be available to help Infoart as required, but I feel this little project has now drawn to its conclusion. LessHeard vanU 21:31, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. Good work all round. User:InfoArt still has some draft articles in user space, but hasn't edited recently. Tyrenius 21:41, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Sorry I couldn't help; if people have appetite for more, see the similar User:VAwebteam and User:VAwebteam/To do list Johnbod 21:46, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I read the "how to" bit on archiving a page and I am none the wiser (I am better informed than previously, but with no understanding how I am supposed to effect the new information I have) and would be grateful if somebody else could do the putting to bed of this page. LessHeard vanU 21:00, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Well I don't blame anyone who isn't - I didn't quite feel I could inflict it on the VA project!Johnbod 21:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archive as Historical?