Talk:Television content rating system

message: Will you please stop changing the table highlighting for "SPG" in the Phillipines entry from yellow to purple as you keep doing here. The table has a very specific key: yellow for "parental guidance" and purple for "advisory" age recommendations. According to Television_content_rating_system#Philippines SPG stands for "Strong Parental guidance". It does not carry an age recommendation so it is not like PG-13. Maybe this is not clear in the key, but the purpose of the purple highlight is to indicate age suitability, not strength of content. For example, if you have purple highlighting from 13 onwards, that means the rating aplies to content that is suitable for people of age 13 and upwards. In this case SPG carries various content markers, but it is still ultimately a parental guidance rating and not an advisory rating with an age recommendation. By repeatedly changing the shading you are making the rating inconsistent with the key. Betty Logan (talk) 20:40, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  SPG 

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message: Unlike films, Mexico TV rating A is red-highlighted while Mexico film rating A is white. Is Mexico TV rating A inappropriate for under 7 unlike films? Film rating A is for all ages.211.203.35.206 (talk) 08:05, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The "A" rating for films is definitely "all ages" and is correct. The summary for the TV rating advises parental supervision for children under 7. I can't say offhand if this correct. Ideally we need a source to corroborate the ratings. Betty Logan (talk) 08:43, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mexico A is not for all ages? 

message: TV Parental Guidelines is based on MPAA.
Both TV-14(TV) and PG-13(film) is PARENTS ARE STRONGLY CAUTIONED, but why is TV-14 restrictive while PG-13 is simple age recommendation?
I heard that TV-14 is based on PG-13.211.203.35.206 (talk) 09:17, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: TV-14 isn't restricted, it is advisory. That is why it is purple. Betty Logan (talk) 09:35, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

text: What you have heard carries no relevance here. The ratings are explained at Television_content_rating_system#United_States and they are sourced. Betty Logan (talk) 10:43, 25 January 2018 (UTC)

text: Will you please stop aligning the US TV ratings with the MPAA ratings. They are created by different organizations and are implemented differently. The answer to your question is in the summaries and sources. Betty Logan (talk) 00:40, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  TV Parental Guidelines vs MPAA 

message: Does FCC guidelines clearly state that TV-14(14+) and TV-MA(17+) is simple age recommendation?211.203.35.206 (talk) 06:06, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Read them for yourself! That is why we have citations in the article. Betty Logan (talk) 06:09, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  FCC guidelines 

message: Is this edit incorrect?
* Portugal 10 & 12 is simple age recommendation.
* Portugal 16 is restrictive: No Children under 16 must view unless under supervision
223.38.22.156 (talk) 03:11, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it is not correct. You san see this for yourself by checking the summary for Portugal and clicking on the source. Please stop altering the table so it contradicts the summaries below and the accompanying sources. Betty Logan (talk) 12:39, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: [] This PDF seems that all ratings are advisory.
Translation:
* T: Programs intended for all audiences.
* 10: Programs for spectators aged 10 or over, advice from parents in case of spectators less than 10 years of age.
* 12: Programs for spectators aged 12 or over, advice from parents in case of spectators less than 12 years of age.
* 16: Programs aimed at spectators aged 16 or over. The content programs may be likely to have a negative formation of the personality of children and adolescents.
211.203.35.206 (talk) 13:35, 4 February 2018 (UTC)

text: It does not say the ratings are advisory. It mandates advice from parents for children under those ages i.e. it defers regulation to the parent. That is not the same thing as a simple age recommendation. The purple highlight is for simple age recommendations; the red highlight is for ratings where the parent becomes the regulator for children below a certain age. Betty Logan (talk) 15:05, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portugal 10 12 16 

message: This PDF clearly states that under 16 can view 16-rated programs, only if supervised. Please alter Portugal 16's color scheme (black->red).211.203.35.206 (talk) 08:20, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't state that at all. It states that programs rated 16 are for audiences of 16 and over. Please quote the part which states children under 16 can watch under supervision. Betty Logan (talk) 13:27, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

text: Programs in this bracket are for people aged over 16. As I have repeatedly explained, the guideline does not saying anything about people under 16 being able to watch it, either on their own or under parental surpervision. The other age ratings explicitly defer this deicision to the parents; this is not the case with the 16 rating. In this capacity the black highlighting is the correct color according to the key. Betty Logan (talk) 14:02, 8 February 2018 (UTC)

text: If the lower categories require parental consent for viewers under those ages the adult category is hardly going to be an advisory category that does not require parental consent, is it? It is obvious from the wording of all the categories together that the adult category is a hard category. If the regulator intended for the content to be accessed by viewers under 16 then it would be worded the same way as the lower catgeories. This is not rocket science! Betty Logan (talk) 00:12, 9 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request 

message: Please alter them if they're not incorrect.
* Australia C is age recommendation, so it should be purple.
* Canada C8 is age recommendation, so it should be purple.
* Canada PG carries parental supervision recommendation for under 8, so it should be red.
* Indonesia A is age recommendation, so it should be purple.
* Indonesia A-BO and R-BO carry parental supervision recommendation for under 7 and 13, seperately. So they should be red.
* Taiwan 6+ carry parental supervision recommendation, so it should be red.
* Thailand Children Rating is age recommendation, so it should be purple.
* US TV-Y7(-FV) is age recommendation, so it should be purple.
175.223.48.189 (talk) 01:09, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Australia C, Canada C8, Indonesia A, Thailand Children and US TV-Y7 all describe content specifically for children in a certain age range so they should be highlighted white in accordance with the key which says white ratings are "Aimed at young audiences". These ratings are completely different to general suitability ratings that impose a lower age limit, such as Finland K7. Canada PG and Indonesia A-BO & R-BO are specifically parental guidance ratings, not restricted ratings. For example, Canada PG recommends parental guidance for the age 8–13 age range, but red highlighting would imply it is restricted for children under 8 and unrestricted for viewers over 8, which is not the case. Betty Logan (talk) 01:32, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: However, Taiwan 6+ carries parental supervision recommendation, so it should be red, shouldn't it?211.203.35.206 (talk) 02:22, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: No. In the summary for Taiwan 6+ it says "children over six and under the age of twelve can view if accompanied". That is no different to Canada's PG rating. If it were highlighted red than that would essentially be saying that children aged 6–12 do not require parental supervision, which is the opposite of what the summary says. Betty Logan (talk) 02:36, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some Edit Request 

message: Country/System	0/1         	2           	3           	4           	5           	6           	7           	8           	9           	10          	11          	12           	13           	14           	15           	16           	17           	18           	19           	20           	21           	Other
Taiwan        	0+（普遍級）     	0+（普遍級）     	0+（普遍級）     	0+（普遍級）     	0+（普遍級）     	6+（保護級）     	6+（保護級）     	6+（保護級）     	6+（保護級）     	6+（保護級）     	6+（保護級）     	12+（輔12級）    	12+（輔12級）    	12+（輔12級）    	15+（輔15級）    	15+（輔15級）    	15+（輔15級）    	18+（限制級）     	18+（限制級）     	18+（限制級）     	18+（限制級）     	N/A
Yellow meaning: Parental supervision recommended for designed age range.
Red meaning: Parental supervision recommended for younger audiences.
Both yellow and red means parental supervision recommendation. So we only need red highlighting. Yellow can be altered as using black and red. See:
Country/System	0/1         	2           	3           	4           	5           	6           	7           	8           	9           	10          	11          	12           	13           	14           	15           	16           	17           	18           	19           	20           	21           	Other
Taiwan        	0+（普遍級）     	0+（普遍級）     	0+（普遍級）     	0+（普遍級）     	0+（普遍級）     	6+（保護級）     	6+（保護級）     	6+（保護級）     	6+（保護級）     	6+（保護級）     	6+（保護級）     	6+（保護級）      	6+（保護級）      	6+（保護級）      	15+（輔15級）    	15+（輔15級）    	15+（輔15級）    	18+（限制級）     	18+（限制級）     	18+（限制級）     	18+（限制級）     	N/A
Taiwan        	0+（普遍級）     	0+（普遍級）     	0+（普遍級）     	0+（普遍級）     	0+（普遍級）     	N/A         	N/A         	N/A         	N/A         	N/A         	N/A         	12+（輔12級）    	12+（輔12級）    	12+（輔12級）    	15+（輔15級）    	15+（輔15級）    	15+（輔15級）    	18+（限制級）     	18+（限制級）     	18+（限制級）     	18+（限制級）     	N/A
We should remove yellow highlightling. In Motion picture content rating system, black-red structure (e.g. Norway, Taiwan etc.) is used.211.203.35.206 (talk) 06:44, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fine by me. BTW, please don't alter the note in the US entry: the restrictions only apply to TV models with a V-chip, otherwise the ratings are purely advisory in the way they are worded. Betty Logan (talk) 13:24, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: There are quite a few password restricted services if you look through the summaries. Many of these are controlled through a set-top box rather than a chip in the TV. For example, my service requires a password for post-watershed programmes between 5am and 9pm. Betty Logan (talk) 15:09, 4 March 2018 (UTC)

text: I agreed to replacing the yellow highlighting for Taiwan because it is age restricted, not advisory, so the yellow was wrong in this entry. Betty Logan (talk) 16:12, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: If you find incorrect highlightings, please alter them.175.223.10.84 (talk) 23:40, 5 March 2018 (UTC)

text: The descriptions can be read at Television_content_rating_system#Taiwan. Betty Logan (talk) 09:28, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yellow is not necessary 

message: Betty said that there is nothing in the Portugal and US summary that indicates any type of restriction. That means all Portugal/US ratings are purely advisory then there should be no red or black. And Mexico A(7+) is set "restrictive" but B(12+) is set "advisory". Moreover, Greece PCR(10+) is set "restrictive" but 15 is set "advisory". They seem incorrect. Please alter them correctly. Thank you.121.139.207.87 (talk) 08:53, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It was YOU who added the restricted highlighting to the US entry on the basis that the V-chip was a restriction. I accepted your argument. We have already discussed Portugal above at #Portugal_10_12_16. As explained at that discussion the ratings are not advisory, rather they mandate "advice" from parents. In other words its is mandating a particular kind of action from parents, not merely making a recommendation i.e. it is a restricted rating that defers regulation to the parent. That is entirely consistent with the red key which states "Instructs that people under the age are not supposed to see it without parental supervision." On the other hand I agree with you about Greece; it is very likely it would carry at least the same restriction as the lower rating, but it makes no reference to children below that age being permitted to watch prgrammes carrying the rating. Betty Logan (talk) 15:28, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Mexico's highlightings are still incorrect. Mexico A(7+) is set "restrictive" but B(12+) is set "advisory". They seem incorrect. Please alter them correctly.211.203.35.206 (talk) 22:58, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not at all clear from the wording if Mexico's "B" categories are restrictive, but on the basis that a lower category is restrictive I have changed them. Betty Logan (talk) 01:55, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect highlighting 

message: Red and black is restrictive. Moreover, South Africa gov prohibits children from seeing 13/16/18-rated programs. "be supposed to" phrase should be used, right?211.203.35.206 (talk) 14:30, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Saying that people below the age "are not supposed to see it" is semantically identical to "should not see it". There is no difference, except the former uses more words. Betty Logan (talk) 14:36, 8 April 2018 (UTC)

text: As I have already explained "not supposed to" is unnecessarily verbose. The current version is more concise and more encyclopedic. If something is "unsuitable for younger audiences" then it is obvious a younger audience should not be watching it. You are obviously not an English speaker so please leave the wording to those of us who are. Betty Logan (talk) 04:59, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Word "should" seems odd 

message: Please will you explain this change to the South Korean entry. The source used in the section does not say anything about 7 year-olds having to be supervised so please can you tell me where you are getting this information? Betty Logan (talk) 05:28, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I have made further information link.Zenkaino lovelive (talk) 06:15, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That's helpful, but you have just edited this page to make it say the same thing. What is the source for this information? Betty Logan (talk) 06:38, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: These ratings are regulated by Korea Communications Standards Commission.Zenkaino lovelive (talk) 07:04, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't dispute that, but you must be getting the information from somewhere. Do the Korea Communications Standards Commission have a website that states 7 year olds must be accompanied? Per WP:Verifiability information must be sourced and the current source says nothing about parental accompaniment. Betty Logan (talk) 07:29, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: This will be helpful source.Zenkaino lovelive (talk) 07:41, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  South Korea 7 

message: Hi all and sorry for joining with an ip address but I do not have an account in Wikipedia. The Greek TV ratings changed one month ago and we currently have the following symbols:
* K: Suitable for all
* 8: Suitable for all over 8 years old
* 12: Suitable for all over 12 years old
* 16: Suitable for all over 16 years old
* 18: Suitable for all over 18 years old
Here is a video presentation of the above: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXTuFouckOo, however, it is in Greek.
Kind regards,
Georgios  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:214C:8211:7E00:9055:63D2:FA53:C6DD (talk) 16:00, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek TV Ratings 

message: The USA and other countries kids channel show is Nickelodeon, Cartoon Network and Disney Channel or Disney XD are not included rated TV-14 or TV-MA due to the Children’s channel show will not prevalence included Strong Violence, Languages and Sexual Innuendo. (Also airing on YTV in Canada is rating 14+ aired anime and cartoon on Bionix) Adult Swim airing on cartoon and anime is rated TV-14 and TV-MA as well. Sometimes Tooniverse airing cartoon and anime is rated All, 7, 12, 15 and 19 (similar to TV-14 from 15 and TV-MA from 19) For Children to Adults.RomanceLove88 (talk) 19:33, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did you know what about Kids to Adult channel in the world? 

message: Please guys you need to know where is rated G, PG12, R15+ and R18+ From IMDb RomanceLove88 (talk) 19:39, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where’s the rating in Japan? 

message: While you have made many positive edits to these articles you have introduced some factual inaccuracies too. For example, you have changed some ratings from "advisory" to "mandatory" without explanation, you removed Quebec's 8+ rating and added cinema ratings to Turkey's section. If you make content alterations it is important to check that the changes are factually accurate. In many cases TV ratings are different to film ratings and you can't just make assumptions. I don't want to discourage you from working on the articles but if you are making changes to ratings in a country that you do not live in then you ideally you need to verify those changes against a source. Best wishes. Betty Logan (talk) 07:40, 13 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factually inaccurate edits 

message: Please, at least look for icons and use it for countries that do not have it instead of using and underlining texts 152.172.222.190 (talk) 00:23, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boris Toledo S. 

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message: Where is the designation of homosexuality to alert viewers of content that they may find offensive or welcome? 50.26.134.67 (talk) 17:40, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not all countries designate such content. Hungary is the only one that I know of. Betty Logan (talk) 23:38, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homosexual Rating Designation 

message: Referring to Television_content_rating_system#Malaysia section, [failed verification] commented "Only mentions films, and doesn't mention television" is actually false. unifi TV has started to use P12 and 13 ratings on their TV stations. Malaysian freeview TV stations like TV3 and TV9 (Media Prima) had also used the ratings as well. You can check AqFad TV YouTube channel as reference for the mentioned resources. Boncit2Sekalian (talk) 14:23, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The tag has been correctly placed because the source provided does not mention TV at all. If you know of a source that can corroborate the claim, then it would be just as easy to add it to the article. Betty Logan (talk) 17:33, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Malaysia new LPF rating is used on TV as well 

message: Can someone add additional citations for verification? Please? 2601:181:401:49B0:A8D4:FB6:7AE:1972 (talk) 22:11, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page needs additional citations! >=( 

message: Is the BBFC rating system for movies the same for television like TV series or is it a different system unlike the United States version? I’m curious to know. Thanks. FireDragonValo (talk) 19:17, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: There isn't a rating system for television in the UK. There is a watershed (9pm) and that is it. Betty Logan (talk) 20:12, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that makes sense. Thanks for letting know. FireDragonValo (talk) 14:56, 14 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Television rating system in the United Kingdom 

message: I was through the list here. How come there is no TV age rating for Japan? They don’t have one or is it still unresearched? 172.248.174.74 (talk) 21:53, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age Rating in Japan 

message: Please tell me a source about Bulgaria and El Salvador's content ratings for TV. SPEEDYBEAVER (talk) 20:56, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: El Salvador was added in 2019 without a source. Bulgaria was added in 2021 by you and another editor. It is probably best to tag them and remove them in a few weeks if appropriate sources cannot be found. Betty Logan (talk) 12:50, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually just added Bulgaria to the comparison table because I was 13 and a lot less mature back then, as I believed in everything I saw on this website. I am 16 now, and I don't believe in anything I read on this website unless a reliable source is cited. Also, I noticed that the entries for South Africa and Ukraine are unsourced. SPEEDYBEAVER (talk) 16:24, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bulgaria and El Salvador 

message: Is it possible to add new Brazilian ratings (AL, A10, A12, A14, A16, A18) to comparison table on the television content rating system as suggested? Let me know. Thanks. FireDragonValo (talk) 19:10, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see a problem with that. Betty Logan (talk) 16:00, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. FireDragonValo (talk) 18:54, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Brazilian auto-classification ratings to comparison table