Talk:Views of Lyndon LaRouche and the LaRouche movement/Twrigley

message: mediator edits added for clarity, in green.  please correct, if necessary. 
Editing by the [some] individuals (SlimVirgin, Cberlet, Will Beback (Williamc), Sean_[Black] , Phil) [should] be restricted from all sites associated with Lyndon LaRouche, Patrick J. Buchanan, and any organization, person, or historical article (see American System) [that] Mr. Chip Berlet and his PRA or Public Eye Website attacks in public or through publishing. Other individuals associated already on file. They have shown consistent effort to disparage the reputation of said individuals [LaRouche, Buchanan, and etc.], to label new editors immediatly and rashly as LaRouche supporters with no evidence, to edit out material with a reference as "LaRouche" idea, all in a spirit against the open policy of Wikipedia and civil manner.  They extract vehement responses because of their harassment and then accuse those individuals of breaking civility rules etc. They may be sockpuppets or associated with Mr. Chip Berlet and his organization known for its ruthless attacks on the Republican Party, Mr. Buchanan, Mr. Perot, the Reform Party, Mr. LaRouche, and anyone who wishes to compromise between Right and Left in America per PRA website and writings thereof.  Thus, editing by such individuals as above be restricted to non-Buchanan, non-LaRouche, non-American political party's, non-American historical articles. --Northmeister 03:38, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My editing is not "iilicit." I do not run PRA. This page is not about the "Republican Party, Mr. Buchanan, Mr. Perot, the Reform Party," or anything other than the "Political views of Lyndon LaRouche," a convicted criminal who is widely regarded in reputable published sources as a lunatic, cult leader, and antisemite. This is not an arbitration and thus is not the proper place to demand my editing be restricted. As for harassment, it is Northmeister who has been adding negative material to the entry Chip Berlet.--Cberlet 14:00, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

text: The material I added myself (see my edits on that page) was perefectly legitimate and sourced. It simple adds a chapter to Mr. Berlet's biography ignored and overlooked. It was added in the same light as Mr. Berlet's additions to the above stated organizations. I am well aware this is not arbitration. My appeal is for reason and sanity. My issue is the witch-hunt going on and the suppression of free speech. I do not wish to restrict any editing, but to simply bring to light the fringe nature of PRA and its associates and how their material is used on wikipedia, this article in question is a perfect example. I noted elsewhere on this discussion page my objections to so much 'smear' and 'negativity' in this article which does not belong, including trying to define Mr. LaRouches motivations. That is best left to Mr. Berlet's books and PRA. Wikipedia should present the fact. Since this is about Mr. LaRouches political views, it should state them and offer links to critics and supporters. It does not need to be another venue for personal attack on Mr. LaRouche. The same goes for Buchanan, Perot, Reform Party, Republican Party and all those PRA, Public Eye, and Mr. Berlet have advocated against outside of wikipedia. Thus, this page needs to be less than it is, more about LaRouches ideas without attacks or material used from Berlet, King and his associates, let there be links outside of wikipedia to PRA where that is already done sufficiently. Let the LaRouche people edit this page without interference from SlimVirgin, Will Beback, Cberlet and associates who have an agenda. These are legitimate points of contention. --Northmeister 15:36, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not free advetising space for political figures, it is an encyclopedia, in which critical information, accurate, properly sourced, NPOV, and fair is central to the project of informing readers.--Cberlet 14:26, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Illicit editing (NPOV and harassment issue)