Talk:Piano concerto

message: I know for violin, the paginini concertos are considered to be the hardest. What are the hardest concertos for piano?- EK —The preceding unsigned comment was added by EKN (talk • contribs) 21 January 2006.
:Yes, the Paganini are hard, but I don't find them the most rewarding listening (I'd rather listen to "real" Rossini rather than mock Rossini!).  My point is that supreme virtuosity and musicality brought to any concerto, even the technically undemanding, will tend to make the performance a thing of beauty and wonder, and you miss so much listening out for "difficulty".  That said, only a top virtuoso would even consider tackling, say, Rachmaninoff's 3rd, Prokofiev's 2nd, Henselt's, Scharwenka's 4th, Marx's Romantic concerto, Reger's, Ligeti's, or Des canyons aux etoiles… by Messiaen (…tackling them in public, anyway).  I've certainly missed many off that list.  Not technically a "piano concerto", Alkan's Concerto for solo piano op. 39 nos. 4-6 sets formidable challenges, and requires the pianist to additionally be the orchestra during the tuttis.  However this is all my opinion and must not find its way into the article.  --RobertG ♬ talk 11:05, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To be picky (very) the Alkan solo concerto is op 39 nos. 8-10, and is a concerto on the analogy of the Bach Italian, indeed. (4-7 are a "symphony" along the same lines.) Haven't heard Sorabji's piano-orchestra concertos- only one has I think been performed and broadcast- but imagine their difficulty is probably way up there also. Schissel | Sound the Note! 13:20, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual Concertos 

message: Some anonymous IP is advertising John Kenneth Graham's piano concerto here. Possibly Mr Graham himself, as the same IP had made edits to the Graham entry. Mr Graham's piano concerto is not notable repertoire, and it should certainly not stand as an example of anything here. I have accordingly reverted. CRCulver 23:04, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, looks like someone beat me to it. CRCulver 23:04, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graham 

message: It is surely a bit misleading to say that the classical period concertos are in "sonata form" - Mozart's carefully avoid this symphonic form, and more or less so does Beethoven when he realised what Mozart's structure really was...
Grahbudd 20:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mozart's concertos

message: I removed a list of "notable concertos".  I don't think we should presume to select such a list, unless someone can do a survey of several expertly-researched lists, like the Opera project did.  This is quite apart from the fact that the proposed list only included 11 examples, only two by Mozart, and omitted Schumann, Chopin, Brahms 1, Rachmaninoff 2, Beethoven 1-4, Henselt, Saint-Saens, Gershwin, Shostakovich, Britten, Tippett, Lutoslawski...  --RobertG ♬ talk 16:58, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Notable" concertos 

message: The Manual of style's been changed since last I checked- it used to insist on concertos rather than concerti. Now it just insists on consistency within an article. Got it. Schissel | Sound the Note! 13:17, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concertos or concerti 

message: The history section is less than bare bones; it only mentions some late romantic and twentieth-century pieces, with no clear reason.  I hope someone can replace it with a history that starts at the beginning and tells something about the development of the type.  Zaslav (talk) 05:48, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  History