Talk:Theta Chi

message: The chapter link table is done in html format. It should be redone. Tables done on wiki are completely different from html and can be edited simply. The html format just adds to the confusion for those who want to later edit it. --† Ðy§ep§ion †  Speak your mind 20:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The chapter link table, in fact, should be removed entirely.  It dwarfs the article and adds almost nothing to it; furthermore, the links are all accessible through thetachi.org. —Cryptic (talk) 13:55, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. Or, it could be added as a link to another page. BME 00:23, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think when people look at the fraternity articles on Wiki, they are more interested in the history and acomplishments as well as the notable people of the organization. I never found it helpful when people keep adding chapter links to fraternity and sorority articles when as Cryptic pointed out, they can be easily accessed through the main website. People are more interested in content than just mere lists. Just my two cents. --† Ðy§ep§ion †  Speak your mind 01:23, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Chapter link table

message: Since more and more alumni were being added in random order, I organized them into categories. What do you guys think? BME 00:49, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have heard from Theta Chi IHQ that Bob Woodruff is, indeed, an alumnus so his information can stay on the page.BME 22:41, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't know, but since his article didn't mention his status, I've removed him. —C.Fred (talk) 19:47, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Distinguished Alumni listings

message: When a quotation is broken into several paragraphs, open quotation marks go at the beginning of each paragraph, but a close quotation mark goes only after the last paragraph. — Walloon 02:34, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Creed

message: Helping Hand vs. Assisting Hand edits.  Can we stop changing this every other week? Seriously this has been changed at least 3-4 times in the last month alone.  Initiated members know what term is taught in the ritual. Perhaps one way to resolve this is to list it as "Helping Hand/Assisting Hand" in the article. BME 08:24, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I tend to agree, for what its worth. If we can't agree, as it appears, we might as well clear up the debate and list both. Quiller talk
The fraternity's motto is in Greek, thus neither "The helping hand" or "The assisting hand" are the "official" mottos. But both are accurate translations of the Greek phrase. I don't understand the petty editing wars between the two translations. — Walloon 16:20, 11 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I had added the following text, "motto: θηρόποσα Χείρ" with a footnote of "The Greek motto of Theta Chi is θηρόποσα Χείρ, which has been variously translated as 'An Assisting Hand' or 'A Helping Hand.'" I like it, but people keep changing it to either "An Assisting Hand" or "A Helping Hand." I had been reverting the changes, but I'm going to leave it as "An Assisting Hand." Either one is right, so I suppose it doesn't matter which one is up there. I might add the footnote to "An Assisting Hand," but leave the translation there. Andyparkerson 10:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The "Motto Editing Wars" (assisting hand vs. helping hand) is getting very ridiculous!!! I would like to propose locking out editing of this Theta Chi website from unregistered Wikipedia users. BME 19:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's too bad. Yes, it seems to change about once a month, going from "helping" to "assisting" hand back back again. It's silly, but I don't think it's bad enough to semi-protect the page. It hardly rises to the level of an edit-war. It's more like people new to the page, who feel that one way or the other is preferred, and never check to read the discussion page. The hope is that more will be gained by people adding to the site than is detracted from by people reverting the motto. Semi-protection is the wrong move here. -- Andyparkerson 04:18, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

text: However, the motto is not completely openly declared. I do note, however, that the phrase "Helping Hand"—capitalized—appears on the Theta Chi website "About" page.I've left the most recent change to the motto intact but requested a citation that it's official. —C.Fred (talk) 00:53, 18 January 2010 (UTC)

text: I don't think it gets any more straightforward than that: the primary source, who can determine what the "real translation" of the motto is, changes the translation on the page we've been citing as a source. It's going to take some profoundly superior sourcing to overcome that, so barring another change on the About page, I think "An Assisting Hand" is the preferred translation. —C.Fred (talk) 15:52, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Motto

message: I have removed this paragraph from the article:
:It must also be noted that alcohol-free housing (AFH) has been a topic of debate. Anti-AFH constituents argue that instead of joining fraternities, many potential new members are deciding against Greek Life, and live off-campus with friends, where such stringent policies don't apply. In addition, many believe that mandated prohibitions such as AFH do not in fact teach the undergraduate members any sort of personal responsibility. AFH proponents, however, point to higher academic performance, improved cleanliness of chapter houses and recruitment of higher quality men. In fairness, it must also be pointed out that there are instances of high academic performance, clean chapter houses and quality members in non-AFH fraternities. 
With the accretion of pro- and anti-AFH arguments, this is rapidly becoming an online debate about AFH. Such a debate does not belong in the Theta Chi article. — Walloon 21:12, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Alcohol-free housing

message: The article says Egbert Phelps, is considered to be the "assistant founder" for lending his help and advice to Freeman and Chase although he was never an undergraduate member himself (he was a member of the Chi Psi Fraternity). Anyone have any info on what school Phelps attended?  Because Chi Psi's list of Alphas doesn't list Norwich as having a chapter.--Vidkun (talk) 15:35, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the Theta Chi HQ website (under History or Encyclopedia sections) Phelps "transferred to Union College in Schnectady, New York in 1854 and became a member of Chi Psi Fraternity. Union College is often referred to as the "mother of fraternities" with six national fraternities founded on the campus, including Chi Psi in 1841. It is thought that this influenced Phelps to continue his interest in Theta Chi even after he transferred from Norwich." BME (talk) 23:20, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phelps and Chi Psi? 

message: Asking here for wider audience: I see that what would otherwise be List of Theta Chi alumni (or, for comparability with other fraternities, List of Theta Chi members) is titled Distinguished Alumni of Theta Chi Fraternity. This implies that "Distinguished Alumnus" is a title that can be granted by the fraternity. What's the distinction between a typical alumnus and a Distinguished Alumnus? —C.Fred (talk) 15:17, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alumni article title