Talk:Pedophilia/List of self-identified pedophiles

message: "Gary Glitter, British singer, arrested and convicted for making child pornography in the United Kingdom, he was deported from Cambodia where he was believed to be enjoying the country's lax laws on child prostitution , moved to Thailand (another country known for the child sex trade)."
User:JamesDay asked any sign of exclusive interest in pre-pubescent children?
User:Drolsi Susej replied yes and added details above. Discusson continues here.
* I see that he's been acquitted of child molestation charges in Britain  and has a girlfriend. I see that there were accusations that he molested young boys in Cambodia. Can you reword the description to precisely match what the stories are alleging (as opposedd to certain fact) and move him to the possible list until there's actually some conviction or similar level of high probability that it can be substantiated? Does seem certain that he's interested in child pornography after that conviction but I didn't find any places saying that he'd created it himself. Can you support that with a reference? Given the high legal risk when naming living individuals, really good record keeping seems very prudent for anyone in the "apparent" list. That might reduce the chance of VfD resolving the matter with a delete. I doubt that it will be sufficient, even though the way this is evolving seems to be in a direction which will have some value: using specific cases to examine the differences between certainty and possibility and the varying standards. JamesDay 07:41, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ahh, James, you meet the UK justice system, which considers downloading porn to be equivalent to "making indecent photographs". Martin 23:52, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Gary Glitter

message: From Wikipedia:Votes for deletion
*List of famous pedophiles
**Delete. See Talk:List of famous pedophiles#Should be deleted in its present form.—Eloquence 02:12, Oct 13, 2003 (UTC)
**Delete.  Another one of these lists whose creation motivation is suspect.  RickK 02:52, 13 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion debate 

message: Since some people have opposed deleting the page, I have moved and edited it in the only way that makes sense. Please do not edit this page if you do not understand what pedophilia is; see above. Thank you.—Eloquence 22:25, Oct 15, 2003 (UTC)
:It seems that someone here at least has some sense about this whole thing-- I was going to suggest removing Davis -- being a murderer and all. In fact Id like to see someone update the list of lists pages so that they can all be pruned, and then deleted.  
:But regarding the sole admitted pedophile on the list-- Ginsberg - according to some of the reading ive done, it was not exactly clear that he wasnt just giving political voice to NAMBLA, (out of what he sometimes admitted was a politically foolish choice of battles.) rather than being himself 'exclusively interested' in molesting kids. He did have homosexual relationships-- like with Bill Burroughs (who fell in love with him --not the other way around)--and though sometimes these relationships were with younger teenagers, Im not exactly clear that he fits the *definition* at the top, either. So the list of one might be a list of none. ^O^ -戴眩sv 22:40, 15 Oct 2003 (UTC)
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