Talk:Skandagupta

message: The text suggests 467, the categories 480. Dsp13 (talk) 12:11, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Year of death?

message: A nice image of the Junagadh rock, on which inscriptions related to Skandagupta can be found. Feel free to insert in the article. PHG (talk) 18:54, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Junagadh rock inscription

message: I am amazed that the bhitari inscription is completely missed out as a source .Skendagupta slept on the floors as ordinary soldiers and built canvas shelters for the indian long bow to ensure that Maghadhans would win victory agaisnt the huns. If you do not keep your bow dry then it becomes effective was obvious when Porus was overcome by alexander but I will try to provide the source of his tactics soon  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bharati8000 (talk • contribs) 10:37, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  seems to have missed lot of information

message: A 1934 history book whose theories have been rendered obsolete by later scholarship is not a great source. If you have read any recent books on the Gupta history, you'd know that Jayaswal's identification of various characters in other texts with Gupta kings are not accepted by later scholars. To quote R. C. Majumdar (A Comprehensive History of India, 1981): "The various theories of Jayaswal about the career and military campaigns of Samudra-gupta, like the rest of his history of the Guptas, are too conjectural and full of wild guesses to be seriously considered." Inserting an entire section with a major quote from such an antiquated and obsolete book is not justified. utcursch | talk 18:37, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Why does he say that? i think that what is happening here is some scholars probably siding with the western narrative of things, that Skandagupta empire succumbed to repeated Hun attacks and perished after his death[1]. In your first source, even though the author rejects the Chandragarbha source, she accepts the Mahendra of the kathasaritsagara as Kumaragupta I and vikramaditya as skandagupta, but rejects the very same narrative of skandagupta of attacking yavana, hunas, tocharas as nonsense because guptas never bordered sasanid (persian) empire. There are various sources which reject this view and state that guptas wer vying with the persians in Afghanistan. Zombie gunner (talk) 03:31, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  We are not here to engage in original research about what's "western narrative" and what's not. If you know about any newer scholarly sources that support Jayaswal's thesis, feel free to cite them. Similarly, if you want to add modern sources about other theories (e.g. identification of Mahendra of Kathasaritsagara), feel free to do so. But adding an entire section with a long quote from an obsolete book is not justified. utcursch | talk 14:27, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  You need to quote full details on why your sited author who thinks that Jayaswal's asserton and Chandragarbha source is imaginative, i have already sited my reference as shown above that jayaswal narrative has not been completely rejected as the author sites it himself and doesnt reject it as well, and that, only one school of thought (western narrative) shouldn't be used as an excuse to remove other sources especially those who site original ancient sources such as chandragarbha. In my opinion there is no reason for omitting Jayaswal, several other scholars have been sited who belong to colonial era, for instance the entire colonial scholarship on brahmi script has been quoted such as Buhler. Doing that will only make the article partial to western narrative. Zombie gunner (talk) 18:56, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  KP Jayaswal's 1934 book