Talk:Inheritance (Paolini novel)

message: How can it be a trilogy if there are four books?65.223.58.226 (talk) 23:58, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's why it's called the Inheritance cycle instead of the Inheritance trilogy. Una LagunaTalk 06:39, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

text: It was orginally going to be a trilogy, but was later expanded to a four book cycle. Some things may simply not have been updated.--Fyre2387 (talk • contribs) 17:48, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

text: He already had.  LotR was a six book series put together in groups of two for simplicity.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.247.122 (talk) 04:34, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, LotR is ONE novel sometimes published as three or six volumes due to its length. The parts are called "Book One", "Book Two" etc. but this is a common way of dividing long works, going right back to the Iliad and Odyssey, and does NOT imply that they are separate novels. 91.107.133.40 (talk) 16:48, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  You're right.  Sorry my bad.  I assume about LotR not being a trilogy is correct though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.247.122 (talk) 04:34, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  ??? LotR is NOT a trilogy??? I thought it was because all the people who have talked about it talk about them as three books and three movies. I've only seen the movies and I'm not going to read the books. (Except their official prequel.) Mr Kirby XIII (talk) 20:40, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  you getting a bit off topic with lotr, but that was a trilogy, the other books were seperate from the original trilogy. like how star wars had the original trilogy, but theres hundreds of books, comics, games, ect. about it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.115.204.217 (talk) 13:14, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trilogy? 

message: Found "Wyrda" being being talked about as the title of the 4th book. Anyone know if there is any authenticity in it?
Armuk (talk) 16:46, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What is the link to your source? It's unlikely to be true, given that the third book hasn't been published yet, but it would be interesting to know if it comes from a source that could be official, or if it's just a fansite. MelicansMatkin (talk) 19:40, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Perhaps Empire? That's what the 3rd book was gonna be called before he decided to make 4 --Alreajk  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.122.0.200 (talk) 01:42, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

text:  He didn't exactly CHOOSE to split the third book into two seperate books. After all, he had planned to much for Book 3. And it shouldn't take TOO long seeing as he worked on Book 4 a bit already as if it were apart of Book 3 when he first made the first draft. (I bet he knew it was too big without his editors or who ever needing to tell them so. Hehheh) Mr Kirby XIII (talk) 20:47, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

text:  I have heard of it being named Empire but not Wyrda, but it is possible because there has not been any confirmed reports on a fixed name.96.246.17.157 (talk) 21:20, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

text: you shouldnt use inheriwiki for a sorce, as anyone can edit it. try using sources they give. and the rumor that empire would be next, its unfounded. there was a picture on face book of eragon(the book) colored green and with empire written on it. paolin also said it wouldnt be empire in a statment. though he saidthe next book will be green. any names are that are talked about are nothing more than rumor because paolin hasnt stated the next title yet. i hope this clears it up.  69.115.204.217 (talk) 13:19, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Wyrda" 

message: << Two spoilers were released on the cycle's homepage Alagaësia.com, the first stating that "In Brisingr, Eragon will meet a god", and the second spoiler said that "Eragon will meet a terrifying new enemy; one who likes to laugh a lot, but not in a good way." >>
Both spoilers appeared in the book, Eragon met the Dwarf God and the painless enemies are the ones who laugh a lot. Eragon met the lone men laughing at Orrin.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.191.9.22 (talk) 11:08, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that those spoilers were confirmed be the painless enemies and the meeting of the Dwarf God. Please post any more spoilers!96.246.17.157 (talk) 21:18, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoilers 

message: This was revealed in book 3 and should be removed from what is upcoming in book 4. 67.40.85.193 (talk) 04:14, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  Spinach Dip 05:30, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sloan's real name 

message: Some of these look like guesses to me. Also, claim in first paragraph: "in which Eragon discovers that Galbatorix is his grandfather" looks a bit dodgy to me. Any references? Fairweather01 (talk) 00:04, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Claims In Unresolved Plot Elements

message: Originally what was there was a continuation of the "Known details" section there used to be at Brisingr. It listed the plot points which Paolini said he was going to put into Brisingr before he split it into two books. This was sourceable. It was useful content. A couple of examples are: 
*In the fourth book, the Varden's attitude towards Nasuada's position as leader of the Varden might change.
*In the fourth book it will be revealed if Saphira ever finds a mate.
But now, a host of details of various plot strands which may or may not be resolved have been added to the section. There has been no official word as to whether many of these points will indeed be resolved: they are nothing more than speculation and original research. A couple of examples:
*The significance of Tenga (Angela's mentor), if any, will be revealed.
*What really happened to Brom's sword might be revealed.
I think the section in its current form is doing more harm than good. The points which are speculation should be removed and the points which have been confirmed by Paolini should be sourced. Una LagunaTalk 21:11, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am a user unfamiliar with this material; when I read the section, it appears to be fully unsourced and filled with trivia. I do not see anything about this section that would inform me about this subject, or that would make the encyclopedia more reliable.  I agree that it should be removed, unless there are sourceable and useful items which can be kept and integrated into the text. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 21:36, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was nothing more than trivia. Even trivia can be sourced. *SIGN* 23:39, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unresolved plot elements section 

message: I added a needs citation note to the mention that Paolini is hard at work on the next book, as I can't find a March newsletter on Alagaesia.com that was published after Brisingr was released. Looking through the other newsletters, Paolini mentions in one that he plans to start working on the fourth book soon, but he never says he's actually working on it. It's possible, however, that a new newsletter did go out, and that it just wasn't placed on the website.
--Arew264 (talk) 02:44, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You probably stumbled upon a fan-made mock cover for Book 4, such as this or this. That Book 4 "might" be called Empire is pure speculation, and Wikipedia is not a place for unfounded speculation. Una LagunaTalk 09:27, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newsletter 

message: an excerpt for book four is avaliable at
http://www.theeveninghoot.com/king-cat-book-4-inheritance-cycle 
79.76.125.246 (talk) 22:21, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. -- /MWOAP|Notify Me\ 22:57, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps a sectence or two announcing that the author is releasing excerpts before publication? It may be relevant to verifying that the book is on its way to being finished. --Stripy Socks (talk) 18:06, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 79.76.125.246, 18 May 2010 

message: I think it would be important to mention the new released fourth chapter of book four( king cat) (Boekholt gregori (talk) 07:09, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: King Cat?

message: Uncited Claim; Last Paragraph:
"In May 2010, Paolini stated in a newsletter to his fans that he was hard at work on the story, but the holidays had kept him busy with family and friends. He also stated that he was working on a interesting section of the book and it was shaping up to be the most action packed of the series."
Relevant Source:
Shurtugal.com - From the Desk of Christopher Paolini
Jdillon11235 (talk) 10:33, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: BejinhanTalk  11:46, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Jdillon11235, 3 July 2010 

message: Additional information provided by shurtugal.com :
http://www.shurtugal.com/n/759
http://www.shurtugal.com/n/760
"I am not going to give any true names verbatim in the series."
"No no, I'm not planning on putting any true names in explicitly although they may be referred to. But I'll never actually right it out."
"M: So we should be wary of any premonitions.
C: You should be very wary. I just killed a character in the manuscript, you know."
--Rioda94 (talk) 21:58, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Rioda94, 20 August 2010 

message: Ok, I was not sure on how to amend my previous edit request because I'm quite new to Wikipedia (well, I've been using it for years but only recently decided to start contributing) so I hope I'm getting this right.
To sub-section 1.3 (2010) add:
On August 17th Christopher Paolini attended the 100th Boy Scouts Jamboree in Washington DC where he discussed some spotlight points of the fourth novel, during the meeting he also updated fans on the status of the story claiming that he was starting to "see the light at the end of the tunnel". He stated that he has a title in mind for the this installment although refusing to disclose it to the audience. He finally confirmed that there will be a green dragon figuring on the cover while also mentioning his plans beyond the cycle and revealing that he had completely planned and outlined a total of six further books which may or may not take place in Alagaesia, although if they did it would be from a different perspective.
On August 18th he attended the Comic-Con where he paticipated in an interview with Shurtugal.com's staff members during which more information was revealed. It has been disclosed that the true names of characters will never be explicitly spoken during the story ("although", me said, "they could be referred to). More details on the nature of true names were also revealed "True names [of my world] actually involve more then just a simple word; it could be a phrase or a paragraph could be your true name. It could be a book. I mean it could be a very involved thing and it would be a rather clunky and obtrusive within the pros to be using something like that all the time." During this session the meaning of Arya's message in Eldest on page 216 "That which she once hoped for—and feared—has occurred; the wyrm has bitten its own tail." The Elf was informing his friend that Saphira's egg had hatched. Paolini also confirmed the value and importance of premonitions and how they shouldn't be underestimated. Several other minor details or gaps in the story were also briefly discussed.
http://www.shurtugal.com/n/760 (17/08/10)
http://www.shurtugal.com/n/760 (18/08/10)
Rioda94 (talk) 11:48, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Rioda94, 21 August 2010 

message: 
As of Wednesday 23rd March 2011, Paolini announced on Shur'tugal that book 4 will be called Inheritance and will be released on November 8th 2011
217.41.32.132 (talk) 13:32, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanx I am excited The Resident Anthropologist (Talk / contribs) 13:58, 23 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Indeed, none of the other books in the series has the cycle name in brackets. --Roentgenium111 (talk) 21:36, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I am actually surprised I though thought there would be more book called Inheritance on Wikipedia; lacking such a book the move needed to be done The Resident Anthropologist (Talk / contribs) 21:39, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release date and title book 4 

message: I see that for other articles on books, the number of pages the book has is included.  If you think it would be relevent, could you do that for this book?  On both Borders.com and Amazon.com, the number of pages for the hardcover is listed as 704.  Thanks!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.12.74.88 (talk) 19:32, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: We should include the page count when it has officially been announced, but 704 is only a placeholder figure used by stores. The final page count will only be known after editing of the book is completed. Read this for more details. Una LagunaTalk 13:51, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book Length 

message: Currently, the Synopsis section is in shambles.  It starts out fine, but then suddenly and jarringly ends with this "The Green Rider is Arya, and her Dragon is Firnen. Eragon will leave and Arya is going to be the queen."  While that is true, it's not reasonable at that point in the synopsis; most of the book has been skipped entirely.  It's also quite vague: "Eragon will leave and Arya is going to be the queen."  OK, where is Eragon going?  Which queen (we haven't said anything about Islanzadí's death, and there are a few other monarchs)?  What about the whole book that seems to be missing?  I'm going to remove the sentences entirely and add an .  --NYKevin @767, i.e. 17:23, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Worst comes to worst if no one else gets around to writing a decent one I can do so once I've read the book (although I really hope I don't have to given my summarizing skills are somewhat limited), which I hope will be soon but could be as late as Christmas break. I myself added an  template because half the stuff on the page has no reference. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 19:05, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess the original synopsis author didn't want to spoil the ending. --Xijky (talk) 19:14, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The purpose of a synopsis is to tell you what happened WITHOUT having to read the book. I guarantee you, no one is going on wikipedia in the hopes that it won't spoil anything.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.241.5.38 (talk) 02:11, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

text: Speaking of that, and having just reverted an IP blanking the synopsis section due to spoilers, I should point out for anyone watching this page that  is a great warning template for such situations. Ks0stm (T•C•G•E) 01:57, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synopsis 

message: For those that have not read the book, it acts like a big spoiler. The article should talk about other things (Themes, sales, etc.) 
That being said, it's obvious that since it was only released last week, there's not much info to go on, other than the story itself. Maybe a section that gives some details on the new characters and creatures would be best.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.172.67.86 (talk) 18:27, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synopsis too long 

message: Guys what, in your opinion, did the Menoa tree take from Eragon as the price for the brightsteel ore? Rockin291 (talk) 14:36, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not a forum so please discuss this on the official site or a related fansite. Sidearm (talk) 14:12, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Menoa Tree and Eragon's Promise

message: This article has been vandalized too often in this month, maybe it should be protected against such users. Amit Dash (talk) 12:00, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The article had heavier vandalism closer to the book's release in early November, but I would say that it has slowed down significantly since then. As the time lengthens since its release, less people will view the article or think to vandalize it. Protecting it would only prevent people from making beneficial contributions, right? (If you're suggesting to protect it from IP users and not registered editors then I can see your point, but that would discourage IP readers from making small contributions like fixing a typo that they notice while reading the article.)  Jonadin93 (talk) 22:49, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Growing Vandalism