Talk:AEG

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 13:12, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not sure if we got a really coherent discussion, but I'm willing to strike my opposition and engage in this kind of an experiment, because clickstreams will help us figure out usage and we can reconsider later. --Joy (talk) 14:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Comment - https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/massviews/?platform=all-access&agent=user&source=wikilinks&range=latest-20&sort=views&direction=1&view=list&target=https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AEG%20(disambiguation) Is this reliable? GabrielPenn4223 (talk) 15:57, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @GabrielPenn4223 it's probably reliable, but it's raw data. It doesn't tell us the entire picture as it relates to the specific issue of is the term AEG ambiguous for the average English reader and would they benefit more from a short-circuit to the German company or from being shown a list. For example, the more specific clickstream data linked above indicates that very few people use the term AEG to navigate to All Engines Go. Indeed, if you look at the article there there isn't even a single mention of the term "AEG" inside it. That makes it a hard sell for the idea that the average English reader associates the term AEG with that topic. It doesn't invalidate the raw data at all, but it puts it in context that isn't favorable to the argument. The hint is that you should probably focus on explaining how maybe the American company is referred to as AEG, and how the ratio of readers who recognize the American AEG is comparable to those that recognize the German AEG. --Joy (talk) 08:55, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: For example, we can see in the American company's article how they are the owner of a number of prominent arenas. But when one reads Crypto.com Arena or T-Mobile Arena there is not much about AEG per se there. Is the term AEG there a thing that is generally known by the average person, like the German company's brand is elsewhere? --Joy (talk) 11:17, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

text: I looked at "outcoming pageviews" sounds like the American company has 47.69, 24.62 for German, 15.38 for the cartoon. not sure if it works and if i search up the intalism on Google Images, you usually get the German company but some of it are the American and few is the cartoon. GabrielPenn4223 (talk) 17:54, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Granted, the original company lasted an impressive 113 years, was an important part of German industry and extended to other European countries — this entry appears in 30 other Wikipedias — but the acronym does not appear to have had much of an impact in the English-speaking world. I would not oppose the article's main title header being moved to the full name — Allgemeine Elektricitäts-Gesellschaft — as it appears in French Wikipedia or Norwegian Wikipedia, but do not support the acronym AEG being positioned as the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC over 11 other entries on the AEG dab page in English Wikipedia where I feel the expectation is for a very high bar in primary topic selection. —Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 01:37, 7 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: AEG AG would be the primary topic in Germany and Europe but not really here. 120.28.248.133 (talk) 19:20, 7 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Well, as mentioned before, it's not about the brand rights per se, it's that they're still being used at aeg.com, it's still recognized in the UK, which should be part of the English-speaking world ;) The thing I'm wondering is whether the American AEG is likewise a household name in the US, or is this just a general concern about a short acronym being too ambiguous for comfort. --Joy (talk) 08:23, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I think WP:NOPRIMARY is a good idea. Austin is a DAB page and there's no primary topic worldwide although the car company would be the primary topic in the UK. GabrielPenn4223 (talk) 09:39, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: As a result of my above comment, I really think that there is either no primary topic or there could be likely primary topics. GabrielPenn4223 (talk) 09:39, 10 January 2024 (UTC)

text: And that car company is historical but the name is still in use by another. there was a RM in 2023 and it worked to move from Austin DAB to Austin. GabrielPenn4223 (talk) 09:41, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move: January 2024