Talk:Insulating concrete form

message: I have a small problem with some of the editing to date: it is said that "Post-and-Beam" (or "screen grid") systems have no fire resistance, but that is, perhaps unintentionally, misleading. It implies that this design is dangerous, compared to the other design types, but the fact is that if a fire gets to the stage where a small opening in the concrete will allow more material to be combusted, the building is a total loss in any case. The post-and-beam/screen grid design allows a relatively small amount of concrete to be replaced by EPS or other foamed plastic, thereby increasing the insulation value of the overall wall structure. Since the plans for an insulated concrete form building are checked by structural engineers, and the local building authorities check the plans for ALL buildings, the post-and-beam/screen grid type of product are perfectly safe, from fire, structural, or any other standpoints, especially when one considers the comparison to traditional wood structures.
It should also be noted that EPS will only burn if a direct flame is applied to it, and the resulting smoke is said to have only 5% of the toxicity of wood smoke.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.236.147.59 (talk • contribs) 17:33, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fire resistance 

message: I have an ICF home — the first to be built in Texas in fact.  We used the "Greenblock" system.  It's been very noticeable that there are very few insects in the home — and even after 8 years, we have not needed to have the house sprayed for Roaches — in previous houses we've owned in Texas, we needed annual spraying to keep things bearable.  An all-electric home of 2500 square feet consumes $200 worth of electricity in the height of Texas summer — that's around half what a similar house of timber-frame construction would need.  The claims for quietness are quite believable — but we built far from the nearest road or neighbour — so it would be pretty quiet anyhow.  I'm hoping we never have to test the claims of tornado-resistance — but Greenblock claim the walls will survive 300mph winds — I'm more concerned with the roof and windows! SteveBaker 18:00, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
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message: This article is about a concrete form system, throughout the article the merits of concrete vs traditional wood frame construction are mentioned. I don't believe that comparison belongs in an article about concrete forms. I would like to see all references to framed walls removed. Comparisons with other concrete form systems, added insulation, labor and material costs would be relevant. For instance it saves labor but is there a more expensive form system? Dougmcdonell (talk) 07:59, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There is certainly a problem of "tone" in the article - I agree that the fact that each disadvantage has a corresponding solution is kinda dumb - if it's easily fixed, then it's hardly a disadvantage.  Perhaps a more neutral way to do this is to simply describe these issues as "differences between ICF and conventional wood framed construction" and thereby avoid using "advantage" and "disadvantage" at all.  On the other hand, I strongly believe that we must describe the advantages over the prevailing most common construction techniques as well as the disadvantages.  That's necessary in order to provide WP:NPOV.  Perhaps the correct solution is to make a table of all of the construction methods and all of the problems that come up with any of them and turn that into a template which we'd include in every article about construction techniques. SteveBaker (talk) 16:27, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
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