Talk:Zork I

message: I checked the reference.  The 228-move solution requires the player to exploit a glitch.  What is the minimum number of moves for a true solution?  An elite (talk) 07:50, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's see. We can cut one move by typing "CROSS RAINBOW" instead of going west twice to cross the rainbow from Aragain Falls, making 227. Now the glitch happens in the maze, so we need to find away to get the same effect without exploiting the glitch. I think the fastest way would be (from the Troll Room) "SAVE. W. S. E. U. GET COINS. SW. E. S. SE. ULYSSES." (If the thief doesn't steal the egg from you early enough, restore. You need him to do it early enough that when you kill him it will have been opened already.) "SAVE. U. ATTACK THIEF WITH SWORD." Restore and repeat until you kill him in one move. Then "SAVE. GET ALL TREASURES". That saves another four moves, making 223. However, I have not checked if this works (and I think you'd have to go through a lot of saving and restoring to kill the thief in one hit, seeing as you have don't have very many points at this stage). Double sharp (talk) 12:01, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You can also save a few moves by fiddling with the dam before first traversing the Loud Room, then getting the "It is unbearably loud in here..." message and going where you need to go. Double sharp (talk) 14:00, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, after thinking about it a little, this doesn't actually work, since you need to get the platinum bar at some point, and never need to go through the Loud Room more than once. Double sharp (talk) 13:14, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It is possible that this differs depending on the version of the game you are playing, but in my attempts to achieve what you did above (I did it before reading this so it is possible that I may have done something slightly differently) I found it was impossible to kill the thief with the sword because your inventory is full so you could not pick up the coins, which is why I usually drop the sword after killing the troll. Therefore in order to get this few moves without the glitch, you would have to use moves to either dispose of the coins in the case or get the knife from the attic. (User zorkdork)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zorkdork (talk • contribs) 15:04, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm. I just tried doing this on revision 88 (on the above-mentioned iFiction site) and I have no problems picking up the coins even if I haven't been robbed yet. It is true that you need to be in perfect health to carry everything. I am beginning to have doubts myself whether what I suggested is plausible, but not because of inventory management; rather it's because it's very hard to get the thief to rob you at the right moment. Double sharp (talk) 13:39, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not to mention killing the thief in one hit (I start to doubt it is possible, though haven't checked the code, only tried it empirically). Double sharp (talk) 09:10, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  228 moves? 

message: I played the game myself on an Apple //e.  Does it count as "original research" if I use that experience of actually reading the text of the game to correct an error?  The response to "xyzzy" was not "Fool!", it was "Cretin!"
173.71.10.232 (talk) 01:47, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Both are correct. They changed it from "cretin" to "fool" in version 75. Ntsimp (talk) 03:34, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research? 

message: Any objection to removing the "Notes" section? It does seem a bit like original research to me. Scottman 01 (talk) 22:50, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: § 1 is OR, §§ 2+3 should go into "Reception" and be stuffed with citation there. So, no, no objection. Games generally don't have a "Notes" section. Kind regards, Grueslayer 23:12, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Notes"