Talk:Custard tart

message: As a Portuguese national living in the US and having the pleasure of eating both the Pastel de Nata and Egg Custard, merging these threads makes no sense. They have not much in common except for the use of egg as an ingridient. If this thread is merged then, with the same logic, most threads in Wikipedia should merge.
As a Portuguese living abroad, having tasted both. no way one has nothing to do with the other.
It's like all individual flags should be merged in to flags.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.242.188.130 (talk) 08:25, 7 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This article was split from egg tart recently, if you want a merge, merge it back to egg tart, that will make much more sense then merging one with more history to this newer article. —Preceding signed comment added by MythSearchertalk  00:19, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the Portuguese might object to this. There are many egg tarts, but the Pasteis de nata has a specific and unique association with Portugal Asteuartw (talk) 21:56, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

text: I agree with Asteuartw, about merging Pastel de nata article with generic egg tart, is just opening a can of worms. I would almost suggest that even after an attempted merge, there would be Portuguese editors who will push to de-annex the subject matter from any generic. The point is that egg tart is a generic page, and pastel de nata is/was intended to distinguish the local variant, with its own associated cultural identity. I oppose the petition to merge. Ruben JC (Zeorymer) (talk) 20:13, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

text: Shouldn't it be at egg custard tart, were it all to be merged (so each page history would stay where it was, if it were to separate out again) ? 70.49.127.194 (talk) 12:30, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The "fuss" is, in large part, I would say, about inconsistency, overlap, and poor article organization. The present article begins "This article is about custard tarts in British cuisine" and then goes on to talk about Hong Kong and China, France and Portugal... Someone (preferably wielding Ockham's razor) needs to take an egg tart / custard tart / egg custard tart / pastel de nata overview..! -- Picapica (talk) 15:54, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the dab note reading "This article is about custard tarts in British cuisine" because this is the main overview article, with egg tart and pastel de nata being more detailed subsidiary ones.  I suggest we continue to improve the overview article and eventually merge in the detail articles. --Macrakis (talk) 17:26, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

text: In the same way that portugal has a special tie to the Pasteis de nata, The egg custard tart is a primarily Asian dish served in tea houses, and should possible stay separate from the more european custard tart or the Pasteis de nata. NotinREALITY 05:29, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree, Pastel de Nata is the predecessor to the Egg tart / Custard tart / Danta Atban3000 (talk) 22:46, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge discussion 

message: Other solution: the egg tart page should be integrated in the pastel de nata page and redirections should be established, since the information presented in there refers to the introduction of the 蛋挞 in Asia and its origins and relation with the Portuguese pastry.
It's the same information repeated in two pages: actually, the 挞 character was chosen in Macau to name this pastry because its sound is very similar to the syllable ta of the Portuguese word nata and the 蛋 character, meaning "egg", which also has the similar sound of the first syllable na together with the preposition de.
So the original name ("pastel de nata") should be preserved in the title's page and not the name that mentions one ingredient of the pastry — "egg tart".
Therefore, the redirections would be 蛋挞/蛋撻/dàntà/egg tart => Pastel de Nata/Pastéis de Nata, and the link from the former (the custard tart link) be placed in the latter.
InforGatherer (talk) 06:48, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree, Pastel de Nata is the predecessor to the Egg tart / Custard tart / Danta Atban3000 (talk) 22:46, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Integration and Redirection

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message: I propose that the egg tart article be merged back into the more general article on Custard tart, reversing the earlier splitting of the articles. The name "egg tart" is used internationally as a synonym of "custard tart". It is not restricted to Chinese versions as has been pointed out numerous times in the talk pages of these articles. Neither are the Chinese versions notably different from the original European dishes. They can be mentioned as variants, rather than be separate articles. It's a very common colonial dish, found pretty much throughout the range of Portuguese, Spanish, French, and British colonies. Not just China.
Pastel de nata could also be merged, at least partially, as a national variant, given that the Chinese egg tarts originate from them. Though I don't feel as strongly about this as I do about egg tart which is an actual English name.
Another solution is to redirect Egg tart to Custard tart, redirect Chinese egg tarts into Pastel de nata, and then list Pastel de nata under Custard tart. That would fix the mess that these articles are in now.-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 11:46, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: *Yeah. "Egg tart" is too broad a term to be associated exclusively with Chinese cuisine. It is a derivative, after all. It's fine if it was Chinese egg tart or the Chinese name for egg tarts, but not take over the entire article for egg tarts as a whole. I have fixed the same problem in the past where barquillos were claimed by Chinese cuisine to the exclusion of its original (Spanish) source as well as similar (and older) derivative dishes in Latin America and the Philippines. While the derivative dishes that are distinct enough are branched off, I rewrote the article to focus on what it was originally - a Spanish dish. It's a similar situation here, because egg tarts are European.-- OBSIDIAN†SOUL 12:38, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

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