Talk:Cucumis melo

message: I don't think that the picture is that of a muskmelon. See the discussions under the "cantaloupe" article for differnces between musk melons / rock melons and cantaloupes.24.83.178.11 03:07, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture of Muskmelon

message: Cucumis melo var. makuwa (http://efl.htmlplanet.com/korean_food.htm#chate), apparently of the chite group.  They are called chameh or chamoh according to a number of Koreans writing in English on Korean fora.  Webster's Korean-English Dictionary gives one translation of the word "melon" as 차뫼 ['chamoe'(with the syllable break after the 'a'} according to RR transcription] but does not have an entry for this Korean word.  They are some-times also called "Korean melons"  among English-speakers in Korea.  
http://www.invil.org/english/speciality/fruit/melon/contents.jsp?con_no=23005&page_no=1 calls it "Oriental melon"  and discusses it at length, including the following: "If investigating the name of the Oriental melon (in Korean, 'chamoe'), 'oe' means cucumber and 'cham' means high quality. 
This fruit was cultivated from wild species in India, and its cultivation history is quite long. 
In India and China, the Oriental melon was cultivated before Christ, and the current breeding appeared in the 5th century AD. 
In Korea, this fruit is believed to have been adopted from China in the Three States period."
It would seem that http://www.invil.org/english/speciality/fruit/melon/contents.jsp?con_no=371731&page_no=1 is referring to the same melon with the name "Boseok Korean melon" [RR would be 부석, which is not in Webster's].  Why www.invil.org has two different pages with different names but with the same or almost the same photos, I cannot guess.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kdammers (talk • contribs) 11:35, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Korean melon 

message: The article includes the statement, "People use the term "muskmelon" and "cantaloupe" interchangeably. In truth they are the same thing." However, it also lists cateloupes (both European and N. American) as members of types of muskmelon. Wouldn't the statement be as false as saying "Dogs and dalmatians are the same thing"?
Jack Vermicelli 98.243.84.182 (talk) 21:29, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And anything else a fruit shop cares to label it, I opened a discussion at Talk:Cantaloupe#The_common_name. cygnis insignis 16:58, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

text: In the Mid-West, muskmelon is used by lay people to refer to the netted melons and NOT to honeydews.  Traditionally, one could buy three types of melons: muskmelon (sometimes also called cantaloupe), watermelon and, less common, honedew.  This is the folk taxonomy in that part of the U.S. Kdammers (talk) 09:16, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently cantaloupe and muskmelon are used interchangably by some people. However, although a cantaloupe is a muskmelon, the term "muskmelon" is actually an umbrella term for both netted and unnetted varieties. A square is a rectangle, but a rectangle is not a square. Ed8r (talk) 17:07, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Muskmelon v. Cantaloupe

message: The article does not mention the sweeter, stronger flavored variety marketed in the western US as a "Tuscan Melon."
Should information be added? 
Ed8r (talk) 17:10, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tuscan melon? 

message: Muskmelon is native to Persia (Iran) and adjacent areas on the west and the east. Persia and the trans-Caucasus are believed to be the main center of origin and development, with a secondary center including the northwest provinces of India, also Kashmir and Afghanistan. Although truly wild forms of C. melo have not been found, several related wild species have been noted in those regions.
 Muskmelon is so named because of the delighful odor of the ripe fruits. Musk is a Persian word for a kind of perfume; melon is French, from the Latin melopepo, meaning "apple-shaped melon" and derived from Greek words of similar meaning.
  The oldest supposed record of muskmelon goes back to an Egyptian picture of the period around 2400 B.C. In an illustration of funerary offerings of that time appears a fruit that some experts have identified as muskmelon, although others are not so sure.
Columbus Brought Muskmelon Seeds
The Greeks appear to have known the fruit in the 3d century B.C., and in the 1st century after Christ it was definitely described by the Roman philosopher Pliny, who said it was something new in Campania. The Greek physician, Galen, in the 2d century, wrote of its medicinal qualities, and Roman writers of the 3d century gave directions for growing it and preparing it with spices for eating. The Chinese apparently did not know the muskmelon until it was introduced to their country around the beginning of the Christian Era from the regions west of the Himalayas.
Culture of the muskmelon spread westward over the Mediterranean area in the Middle Ages and was apparently common in Spain by the 15th century. Columbus carried seeds of it on his second voyage and had them planted on Isabela Island in 1494. This was doubtless its first culture in the New World. About this same time Charles VIII of France reputedly introduced muskmelons into central and northern Europe from Rome.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.242.5.131 (talk) 14:09, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Seems like a Cucumis melo article would be the best choice, with contents of Cantaloupe merged in.  Currently Cucumis melo redirects here.--Theodore Kloba (talk) 18:00, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with Cantaloupe 

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