Talk:Medieval medicine of Western Europe

message: (I have added significantly to the article using some of the comments here as a guide.) xandar
It was thought that illnesses were supernatural or spiritual, not organic. The sick relied on priests, not doctors, and constantly prayed to God for cures. The medical practice was slow to be accepted because superstition was so widespread.
The article fails to be NPOV, is a product of purely materialistic thought without any metaphysical knowledge and does not take into account Alternative medicine, Aura, Chakras and Spirituality. Optim 23:24, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I already worked a lot on this, wikified it and pointed to the NPOV problem. Let somebody else turn it into an article (it's an essay right now). Optim 23:39, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)

text: Considering this, I want to thank you for your contribution. Optim 04:50, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
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message: *Are you interested to rewrite this essay? Great! Have a look at the info I give here, it may help you in your research and rewriting:
**In dark ages medicine and therapy was just awful. People believed in superstition.
**However, according to many, magick, Alternative medicine, Energy theraphy, Chakras, etc are not superstitions.
**In medieval times, Mystics such as Rosicrucians knew how to perform therapy with non-material means. However non-material therapy DOES NOT substitute medicine, and this is emphasised by all serious Rosicrucians today.
**Prayer, meditation, visualisation and herbs have a positive effect on human health and help in therapy.
**According to Alternative medicine, Chakras play a very important role in health and their imbalance may cause illness. Nadis (the energy channels) and Qi energy are important concepts related to health, too.
**Many people, mostly those who support Alternative medicine and mysticism, still believe that illness comes from within the body.
**Chinese traditional medicine has some interesting views.
**However, the views expressed by mystics and alternative medicine practitioners are not accepted by science.
**For some alternative medicine examples, see Edward Bach and Bach flower remedies.
**The role of subconsious mind in health is very important and emphasised in Mysticism. Faith healing can be explained easily with the knowledge of the role of subconscious in human body.
**Many people who are active in Alternative medicine have no mystical-metaphysical knowledge and just take your money. Thus, most alternative medicine practices cannot be trusted easily.
Optim 05:04, 23 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The claim that in the Middle Ages "no one could even read Greek except a few Irish monks" is exaggerated. While in Northern Europe an education in Greek was very far from general, and Greek manuscripts were hard to come by, it was still possible for dedicated people (who were not necessarily Irish) to acquire some knowledge of Greek. Moreover, in Italy, where there was still a large Greek-speaking population, and which had close connections (both friendly and hostile) with the Byzantine Empire, there was necessarily a broader knowledge of Greek. And of course, the Byzantines themselves spoke, read, and wrote Greek, both ancient and demotic, with considerable proficiency, and were well aware of their own medical tradition.RandomCritic (talk) 11:55, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
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message: I have written a six page paper on this, as well as a bunch of notecards that did not make it into the paper,  I am willing to take the time to type up the notecards and upload the paper, but am not willing to take the time to wikify these or make them NPOV.  I would like the information to be of use for Wikipedia. What would be the appriate place to put this information.
P.S. This paper is for a western civilization class, so does not cover medieval medicine in other places of the world.
Appendicitis
Leeches applied to flesh over the affected part and allowed to gorge themselves until the appendix itself is exposed. This is then sawn off.
Arthritis
Bunches of dried thyme inserted into patient's gloves and socks.
Asthma
Cough mixture made of crushed leeches and garlic.
Blood Poisoning
Examine any attached leeches for symptoms of illness (boils, lesions, etc.). Remove any unwell leeches and apply fit ones to poisoned areas.
Broken Limbs
Chives strapped to limb.
Bubonic Plague
Fennel bulbs, leeches, and hacksaw posted to patient.
Burns
Buttered leeches applied to affected skin.
Cataract
Leech inserted under each eyelid.
Diarrhea
Aniseed or attar of roses inserted into patient's bucket to reduce smell.
Earache
Two or more leeches worn as earrings while symptoms persist.
Flat Feet
Insert coriander leaves between toes. In ineffective, saw off feet.
Foot and Mouth Disease
Saw off all affected areas.
Hiccoughs
Balance leech on key and drop it down patient's back.
Impetigo
Leeches.
Indigestion
Leeches.
Leechbite
It leech no longer present, apply poultice to wound. If leech still attached, saw it off.
Measles
Young leech attached to each measle individually.
Nosebleed
Fat leech crammed up each nostril to staunch the flow.
Palsy
Allspice.
Pleurisy
Cumin seed.
Pneumonia
Flat-leaved parsley.
Root-canal Work
Leeches.
Surfeit of Lampreys
Live leeches, three times a day during meals, to be taken internally.
Syphilis
Apply leeches indiscriminately.
Toothache
Leech applied to scrotum to take patient's mind off pain in jaw.
Verruccas
Poke repeatedly with cinnamon stick.
Warts
Charm wart by engaging it in flattering conversation. When you have got it alone, saw it off.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.84.42.162 (talk) 18:02, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
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message: In the section entitled The medieval system, the first paragraph is confusing -- it refers to a person as "he" where no people are mentioned. It appears to be a hybrid of two separate paragraphs, one about medieval medicine and one about Hippocrates. Someone the Person (talk) 21:27, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
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message: I have removed this section:
"Leonardo da Vinci also had a large impact on medical advances during the Renaissance. Born on April 15, 1452, Da Vinci's approach to science was based on detailed observation. He participated in several autopsies and created many detailed anatomical drawings, planning a major work of comparative human anatomy."
Leonardo had zero impact on medical advances in this period.  His autopsies were done purely to study anatomy for the purposes of painting human figures and his detailed drawings, while very skilfully drawn, we not actually always accurate.  More importantly, they were totally unknown in the period and the private sketchbooks he drew them in remained unpublished until the nineteenth century.  The claim that he was "planning a major work of comparative human anatomy" is unsourced, but also irrelevant - even if he was "planning" such a thing, he never actually did it.  People don't have "a large impact on medical advances" for things they never got around to doing.  Leonardo had no impact on medicine - this is a myth.TimONeill (talk) 20:07, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed reference to Leonardo 

message: "The primary tool of the physician to balance the patient's humors."
This appears to be a sentence fragment.  I'd expect it to continue with "is"...
Tossing the parenthetical expression "of the physician to balance the patient's humors" leaves "The primary tool" as the sentence.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  I tried searching for "source" material to correct it, but could not find any. 
WardXmodem (talk) 04:00, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sentence fragment (or am I mis-reading?)  

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Medieval medicine of Western Europe's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "":
From Government Nizamia General Hospital: 
From Rudolf Virchow: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 13:35, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
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