Talk:Moons of Saturn

message: A caution to all editors of this list and other articles related to irregular moons:
Scott Sheppard's list of Saturnian moon orbits on his website are not accurate as they are based on osculating orbital elements (which vary significantly) defined on an unspecified epoch, rather than mean orbital elements that are averaged over multiple centuries as given by JPL and jointly by Jacobson et al. (2022). This is apparent when you consider Saturn LX (S/2004 S 29), which Sheppard incorrectly classifies as "Inuit" when it is actually Gallic when averaged over a 5,000 timespan in Jacobson et al. (2022).
Sheppard also uses osculating orbital elements to make his claims of new moon groups in his recent RNAAS paper. However, JPL's recently-published mean orbital elements for Saturn's 63 new moons invalidate half of Sheppard's proposed moon groups (Hati, Thrymr, S/2004 S 36, Thiazzi); there is no evidence of significant clustering around these moons in semi-major axis, inclination, or eccentricity space. Sheppard also proposes the existence of a Lysithea subcluster within the Himalia group of Jupiter's irregular moons, but JPL shows no evidence of that too. Nevertheless, Sheppard is correct about the Inuit group having three subclusters (Kiviuq, Paaliaq, Siarnaq) and S/2006 S 20 being related to Phoebe. Nrco0e (talk) 21:20, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sheppard is not a reliable source for irregular moon orbits 

message: Saturn or Cronos was a titan and father of most of the major Roman Gods, including Jupiter. He was not the God for harvest and agriculture. The goddess Ceres or Demeter was respinsible for that Felix Schultz-Süchting (talk) 20:13, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saturn`s etymology 

message: These are the notable moons I found on 1 website (Tilmann's Web Site):
* S/2019 S 6 --> Once part of the Gallic group (MPEC) Siarnaq fragment along with S/2020 S 5
* S/2006 S 9 --> Possibly a Phoebe fragment like S/2006 S 20
* S/2005 S 5 --> 100th irregular moon of Saturn
* S/2004 S 52, S/2019 S 21 and S/2020 S 9 --> Largest average distance along with S/2004 S 26
* S/2020 S 4 --> Possibly the smallest irregular moon
* S/2005 S 4 and S/2020 S 1 --> Kiviuq/Ijiraq fragment
* S/2004 S 43 --> 100th moon of Saturn by count at that time it was announced
* S/2004 S 46 and S/2019 S 2 --> Their inclinations makes the orbital planet at close no tilt against the ecliptic plane
* S/2006 S 18, S/2007 S 5, S/2019 S 14 and S/2020 S 3 --> Their orbits are almost circular compared to the rest of the irregular moons
* S/2006 S 19, S/2019 S 11 and S/2020 S 7 --> They lead among the furthest moons of Saturn due to high eccentricity
* S/2019 S 13 --> The least titled moon against the ecliptic plane
* S/2019 S 18 and S/2019 S 19 --> Their inclinations are similar to Bestla/Narvi
* S/2006 S 14 --> The least eccentric irregular moon
Ladesh88 (talk) 07:53, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: S/2019 S 6 was just wrongly linked at first; the orbit is not really unusual. Most of the others will probably be surpassed in future. Double sharp (talk) 07:52, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability of some of the 63 new moons 

message: So, I've been waiting for so long on when will the rest of newly announced Saturnian moons having their own articles according on this AfD page that I saw. I just want to know when, not by reverting it back. FilipinoGuy0995 (talk) 10:15, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe about a few months or a year, that's my guess 124.104.194.56 (talk) 21:09, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Independent articles