Talk:Hopesfall

message: Lest anyone think about correcting this, I will mention that the band's name is supposed to be lower-case.  It's not a typo or lazy formatting.  Isomorphic 21:25, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Currently (Jan 17 2006) on Hopesfall's official website Hopesfall, the first news item, from the band, references the band as Hopesfall. The band's MySpace page Myspace/Hopesfall consistently uses the capitalized version. The artist page on their label Trustkill.com also references them as such. The only time that the band formally listed themselves without the capitalization was before the (latest) major lineup change, and before the release of "A Types". From inception until Parrish and Morgan left the band, they sometimes identified themselves as ".hopesfall." with leading and trailing periods. Interestingly, this is still the case on the pre "A Types" but still label-penned bio to be found on Trustkill's site Hopesfall Bio. I think that with the abundance of current capitalized usages by the band themselves, along with the Soundscan registrations Amazon.com Hopesfall listing, we can say with confidence that they have moved on.Ombligotron 00:05, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: On 16 October 2005, this article was nominated for deletion. The result was keep. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hopesfall for a record of the discussion. – Alphax τεχ 07:43, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: AFD

message: you missed the album 'the frailty of words', which was after 'no wings to speak of' but before 'the satellite years'.Entropicflux 18:18, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  the frailty of words? 

message: I notice the text of the article regarding the A Types album has been changed to a more promotional sounding version. The album alienated plenty of the bands fanbase, and was recieved with widely negative reviews. I feel simply stating that it was disliked by purists but brought a new fanbase to the band is incorrect and quite self serving. If noone has any objections, ill change it in about a week. Adamshappy 17:10, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Types 

message: how do people get to put their ignorant personal opinions up on these things? is which "facts" are scrutinized for citations completely arbitrary? 
"melodic hardcore"? they don't sound much like h20 or pennywise to me. 
"moderate success"? what does that even mean? how much is moderate?
"broke down the barriers"? "beautifully aggressive"? there's objective language. 
"early nineties grunge inspired"? that's the most bizarre thing in the entire article. i couldn't think of much A Types sounds less like than the first 90s releases from alice in chains, nirvana, mudhoney, and soundgarden. 
how can it be stated that a lack of screamy vocals constitutes a dramatic change in sound? 
and "long melodic interludes"? am i right in assuming interludes is intended to means instrumental sections? long and melodic are equally subjective and poorly used terms for pointing out any distinct characteristics TSY has. 
a mention of unique aspects of the bands style that remained constant on A Types, the dual guitar layering and types of harmonies in the chords, is completely absent, testament to the ignorance of the vocally oriented "waa waa i only like music with screaming" teenagers who contributed most of the article. 
i just don't understand how any of this is allowed to stand as an article. what is the criteria for what requires citations and what doesn't? 123.3.17.222 21:27, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  why is this article so full of subjective nonsense?  

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:FrailtyOfWords.jpg

message: I have cleaned up a few sections of this article, notably the dodgy music journo style text and the promotional sounding text in relation to A Types. If anyone has any comments about the changes, please let me know Adamshappy 09:01, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major clean up 

message: The link that is supposed to take you to Jay's article actually redirects to a different Jay Forrest.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by I1100a (talk • contribs) 22:00, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jay Forrest? 

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