Talk:Agitprop

message: "Such groups as the International Socialists are often seen today as being merely vehicles for agitprop because of their lack of involvement with the working class - their only source of members today being university students."
This is obviously POV, not to mention being factually incorrect. I'm deleting this sentence rather than sticking a POV marker on it because it seems to me that it doesn't support the article in any way, nor add any kind of understanding. It seems to simply be a dig at socialists, which is fun in the pub, but inappropriate in a Encyclopedia article.
In fact, due to the obvious POV nature of the latter part of the second sentence of this paragraph:
"Fundamentalist Christian websites that promote a return to pre-1960s ideals in such areas as music, literature, family life etc. might also be described as agitprop, though they rarely are in practice."
And the use of the term  'pre-sixties ideals' (which is absolutely meaningless, and devoid of historical basis) I'm deleting the paragraph these two sentences form. If someone would like to come up with better or better worded examples, please do.
The last dig at conservatives has no foundation and adds little to this article "Today, it is most closely linked with the American conservative political movement, that uses a combination of propaganda and active defunding to destabilize liberal politics" .
I am open to hear the argument, but there is nothing supportive of this contention presented and comes off as an opinion.
:Thank you for catching it.  It's clearly not encyclopædic.  Accordingly, I have deleted it. ΔιγουρενΕμπρος! 14:49, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There are an awful lot of uncited comments in this article. I don't think anyone disputes the validity of it but in a reference-standard article these points need to be far better referenced. For example "In the Western world, agitprop often has a negative connotation" may well be true but without referencing, it is nothing more than a point of view which might be open to dispute. Also, calling something "leftist" is rather facile when dealing with an organisation like Agitprop. Lots of things are "leftist" (usually a pejorative term used by US conservatives anyway) but not everything "leftist" is Agitprop. Flanker235 (talk) 04:26, 7 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV and Factual Incorrectness 

message: Any chance of a translation of the russian that appears in the new picture? Or at least a description of the subject matter?
:click at the image. mikka (t) 20:19, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation request 

message: I have just proposed the merger of Agitative propaganda into this article. Pascal.Tesson 01:44, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Proposal 

message: The following section "...an agitprop train toured the country, with artists and actors performing simple plays and broadcasting propaganda.[4] It had a printing press on board the train to allow posters to be reproduced and thrown out of the windows if it passed through villages." needs improvement. Why "if it passed through villages"? Rail lines are usually more or less invariable. A train either passes through villages or it doesn't, unless villages sprang up and disappeared between trips, which seems unlikely. I would suggest that the final sentence be changed to read "_as_ it passed through villages." Also, I find it difficult to understand why a printing press was needed to _reproduce_ posters. Wouldn't it have been more efficient for the train simply to leave with a stock of posters instead of carrying a printing press? Surely if there was a press, it would have been used to _compose_ posters created during the tour - perhaps in response to events, debates, or inspirations arising as the tour progressed. This point should be addressed. 
Also, I can't resist mentioning that I approve of the laudable efforts to remove any suggestion that the right wing in the US uses agitprop. Nothing should be allowed to remain in this article that suggests that agitprop was anything but a Soviet phenomenon.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lestrad (talk • contribs) 03:47, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Except that everyone including, but not limited to, the US right wing - uses propaganda. Agitprop is a very specific example of it, almost a trade name. Flanker235 (talk) 04:37, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rail routes 

message: That first sentence is tl;dr and opaque, and sounds rather POV. Bthylafh (talk) 03:29, 4 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know what "tl;dr" is supposed to mean, and I don't know how the first sentence read when the above was posted, but here's how it reads now: "Agitprop (/ˈædʒɨtprɒp/; from Russian: агитпроп [ɐɡʲɪtˈprop], derived from agitation and propaganda)[1] is stage plays, pamphlets, motion pictures and other art forms with an explicitly political message." Whoever wrote that should be shot. Compare it to the opening sentence in the comparable Encyclopedia Britannica article: "agitprop, abbreviated from Russian agitatsiya propaganda (agitation propaganda),  political strategy in which the techniques of agitation and propaganda are used to influence and mobilize public opinion." Notice in the second opening sentence the subject-predicate agreement. TheScotch (talk) 09:44, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite the first sentence 

message: "Agitprop" has a narrow and specific meaning. This is not propaganda in general. We have another page, Propaganda in the Soviet Union. Perhaps some materials I just removed belong there... My very best wishes (talk) 18:01, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Different subject

message: The line about soviet agitprop theater in the final paragraph ought to be moved elsewhere or removed. 
The final paragraph is about how the medium spread beyond the soviet union, not ap theater as a whole. Its confusing to bring up european agitprop and then immediately switch back to soviet work. Soviet theater might merit its own paragraph above? Not sure. 72.39.65.233 (talk) 07:30, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paragraph on Agitprop's Spread