Talk:Pointe technique

message: Please try to spell words correctly. Firefox has a feature which allows to check spelling while editing a page (English language pack). I am sure something similar exists for IE as well. For the style, please remember Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Therefore the use of a more general and formal tone is advised (ie avoid writing "my brother says..." or "I use gel pads...").
Thanks! 
Gioland71 (talk) 20:54, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling and style

message: I think this article should be split into sections, but I'm not sure what to call them or how to go about it. Also, wouldn't it be more helpful to have a photo of a ballerina en pointe, rather than a photo of a pointe shoe (better suited for the article on pointe shoes)? 70.50.173.22 15:46, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a pointe shoe, as far as I can tell 74.12.103.217 (talk) 20:11, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Sections and photo

message: I, for one, contest the merge. Pointe shoes are an entirely different subject from the technique. Volumes can be, and have been, written on each subject. I've personally found that there's more out there on the shoes. Heh. If there's been discussion on this anywhere else, could somebody point me there? If not and provided no further discussion, I'll remove the tags myself in a few days. --Keitei (talk) 17:25, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. I quite agree with you that these are subjects that can well each have an article of their own. The reason I added the merge tags is that the articles as of now have quite some overlap - the shoe article talks about the technique and vice versa. If this can be remedied, I have no objections to removing the merge tag. Sandstein 05:11, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Points taken. Any better now? --Keitei (talk) 17:37, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. Thanks for the good work! I've removed the tags. Sandstein 17:42, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge 

message: I've never heard of anyone ever claiming pointe wasn't painful. Is there a citation for this? --Keitei (talk) 20:19, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Umm... personal experience (15 years) has told me this, but citations can be found. Yes, it does hurt sometimes; yes, it does sometimes hurt rediculously much; but it shouldn't hurt a lot all of the time. There will always be some discomfort involved -- after all, the human foot was not meant to be stood upon by the toes. However, with properly fitted shoes, padding, and muscular support it shouldn't hurt. Pain and discomfort are very different. — Editor at Large(speak) 21:52, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pointe not painful? 

message: Most of this section doesn't seem accurate. It is not unheard of for even a beginning student to wear only tape, or nothing at all, and similarly, professionials often do use gel pads (at least in NYCB, as that is the only company I have seen firsthand, but I would expect they are not alone.) With the use of new technology, gel padding has become much thinner and therefore easier to work with, although in the past it may not have been so good. At all levels of ballet, it is necessary to not use so much padding that the dancer can not feel the floor through it. It is at least as important for students as for professionals, so any differences in padding for an individual would be the result only of tougher feet, not a greater need for sensitivity. Any comments on this before it gets changed? puppies_fly
:Wholly agree, but I've found it common among my ballet teachers to use minimal amounts of lambs wool and/or paper towels =\ as padding as a matter of course, not of choice. Perhaps it should be mentioned that toepads are just coming into acceptance (some of my ballet teachers wouldn't allow them)? --Keitei (talk) 18:47, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Injury Prevention 

message: This list was spun out from this article, so I don't see why it should be merged back in. I still haven't completed it >_> but I can try and get around to that this week. Anyone else want to help? :] --Keitei (talk) 21:40, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm unclear as to why pointe-related injuries needs it's own page. It's a list,  has limited expansion potential, and might be better served by being merged with the main pointe article. Ckessler 05:11, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Could it be made into "List of..."? Right now it just looks like a list, but providing summaries would make it a definition list (also not good). But all of those terms definitely don't need to be in this main article do they? Hazelorb 07:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree that Pointe-related injuries should be included in the article on (en!) pointe. I also feel that male Pointe dancers should be included in this article. It is ALL "searchable" and anyone looking will find it here. I do not believe either subject needs its own article. ([user:CJSulesky|CJSulesky]) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.233.32.177 (talk) 16:17, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the merge. There's not enough information for Pointe-related injuries to be it's own article. It makes perfect sense to merge it with the en pointe article. TheBallerinaDoll 16:17, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Though this is late - do you think this injury content might fit better in Risks of classical ballet, a page I just happened upon now? - AKeen 04:37, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[Pointe-related injuries]] 

message: Can anybody confirm what 70.113.110.240 says about the neoclassical style? I corrected the writing style, but I cannot judge the contents as I only ever danced in the Vaganova's pointe technique. Thanks! 
Gioland71 (talk) 14:08, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  70.113.110.240 changes about styles 

message: It does not seem appropriate to give brand names of products on a encyclopedia page. If I do not get any feedback on this issue, I will change the section to eliminate any references to brand names or commercial web sites. Gioland71 (talk) 16:44, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brand names 

message: To the persons who keep changing the age at which girls go on pointe: I understand you mean well, and it is quite true that it is unethical to allow very young girls on pointe, but in some cases, in some schools, and in my everyday observation, it happens all the time that little girls buy their first pair of pointe shoes at age 9. I hope that using a reference/note style will avoid an editing war. Gioland71 (talk) 17:27, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age at which girls go on pointe 

message: I do not really mind people re-writing the article and improving the sections... But not if the reference to the Vaganova technique actually points to the Cecchetti book!!! 173.206.231.43 (talk) 02:38, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improvements to the page? 

message: How about a section on history here? I'm curious when this practice started, who was the innovator who developed it, etc. As is the article has a huge list of injuries from dancing en pointe and it's probably too much detail for this article (i.e. the article is about en pointe, the article is not about injuries you can get dancing en pointe).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.26.173.210 (talk) 15:08, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Proposal: Move this article from "En pointe" to "Pointe technique".
Reason: This article is about pointe technique -- what it is, how it's learned, its health risks, etc. The article is not about "En point", which is merely an adjective that describes how a dancer supports body weight when pointe technique is applied.
Lambtron (talk) 02:34, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems sensible and no objections, so I moved it. Lambtron (talk) 03:02, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move from "En pointe" to "Pointe technique"