Talk:Wii/Archive 16

message: I think we should add http://brokencontrollers.com/ to the unoffical coverage section, they always have up todate news on the Nintendo Wii.
PeeeU 04:05, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A new user just "happens" to agree with another new user that a completely unknown site should be added to the article? I don't think so... --Ritarri 15:05, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Just two brand new editors, no. Jaxad0127 16:22, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

text: That is another new user, he just created his account 10 minutes ago. TJ Spyke 20:43, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can someone report them? Jaxad0127 01:47, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets? We could just, you know, ignore this blatent foolishness. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 01:57, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I have.  The ten Wii news stories on the Wii News page are all links to or copies of content from other sites.  It really doesn't add anything. --Maxamegalon2000 03:42, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

text: That site is just like hundreds of others with Wii news. What makes it different? Jaxad0127 04:48, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Uh...WP:VAIN. Jaxad0127 00:33, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New site 

message: Perhaps we should get rid of this section. All we really need are the launch games, and the section could get way too long if every game coming until between launch and March 2007 is added. TJ Spyke 04:40, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See here for an archived discussion and here for a poll in the Xbox 360 article about which games to include in the hardware section, which can be used as precedent. -- ReyBrujo 04:46, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I think we should just get rid of the "launch window" games list and just keep the launch games. Most people would come wanting to know what games are coming out at launch more than what's coming out 2 months after launch, that is what the List of Wii games is for. TJ Spyke 03:53, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Nintendo announced the tour several months ago. TJ Spyke 05:03, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Launch window games 

message: Type Keep if you would like to keep this section. Type Remove if you would like to remove this section. Add a small comment on why if you would like.
Remove it is just pointless to have launch window games on the main page... list of popular franchises is way more important. If we re-add the popular franchise section I might be moved to keep this section as well. --DivineShadow218 20:44, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vote 

message: Amazon UK give their price to be £179.99, and rarely do products come out here in the UK at £X9 exactly, it's more likely to be 179.99. Will (Glaciers melting in the dead of night) 03:02, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are bound to be variations in pricing, but I think it's best to stick with what comes from the manufacturer's camp, which in this case would be simply £179. Dancter 04:36, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, Nintendo "estimated" the price at £179 - but don't "recommend" a price in Europe (as that's not legal in many places). Nintendo's "estimate" is the closest thing we have to an official price. Dpmarshall 10:37, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  £179 or £179.99? 

message: Some idiot found it to be a fun idea to vandalise the page with a clever comment of "PS3 Rox! Wii sucks!". Can someone with access to original article erase this utterly perceptive and smart comment and revert it to the way it was please? - Russ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.54.243.250 (talk • contribs) 12:59, 25 September 2006  (UTC)
:It's not hard. just go to the history section. Zazaban 04:18, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Russ, when you see vandalism even you can revert it.  Either go to the history page at the top and review the changes that were made to ensure they didn't delete anything when adding their nonsense and then restore that section or the page to what it was before the vandalism making sure to not overwrite any new edits, or the simple way is to click the edit tab above the section and just remove the vandalism and then check the history to make sure they didnt delete anything that you need to add back in.  Also next time you talk on this page please sign your posts with ~~~~ this will put your username/ip and the time+date of your post, this lets us know who left a message and when.  Thanks a bunch and welcome to Wikipedia. Sir hugo 12:04, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Dancter for signing my comment since I seem to have forgotten it myself.Sir hugo 14:32, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: I have removed the first external link which was to the US Wii portal and left the international Wii portal as the first link. I think that is appropriate geographic NPOV. Garglebutt / (talk) 02:23, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added it back in as it has different information and is still a valid link for general Wii information.Sir hugo 11:48, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed US Wii link 

message: This talk page needs to be archived soon. I don't know how to do it, but I do now you do not archive discussions that have had comments in the last week.Tuesday42 22:05, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Most likely it will be archived by someone come the first of the month anyway, I would hold off till then for now.Sir hugo 12:13, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Turned out a little messier than usual, but the September archive is done now.  Hope I didn't exclude anything too recent -- I also put up a new header at the top to remind everyone of those issues we've been through so many times before.  --Stratadrake 02:36, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Tuesday42 03:45, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  archive soon 

message: Wii (pronounced as the word "we", IPA: /wiː/) is Nintendo's seventh-generation video game console. Its official project code name was Penis machine.
^^ Well i guess it proves my point. Dont worry i fixed it.
But i suggest we put this article back on Editing Protection from new users and Anonymous users. Toasty!|Available at your local store 23:30, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  too much Vandalism, Please block Anons from editing 

message: Due to the negative reception of the Nintendo DS' online multiplayer system, Nintendo Europe has announced that the    Wii will no longer use game-specific friend codes! :) --TBCTaLk?!? 19:35, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are still friend codes, just to systems and not games. Also, I think a more reliable source should be used than this site. TJ Spyke 20:47, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think they're talking about the latest installment of the Iwata Asks series (http://wii.nintendo.com/iwata_asks_vol3_p3.html), but are oversimplifying things, and are somewhat misleading about the details. Dancter 20:54, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

text: The IGN Weekly Episode 30 video shows that each system has a unique "code."  He discusses it around 9:30 into the clip.  SeanMon 01:44, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breaking news: No more game-specific friend codes! 

message: I read the statement that Amazon gave about the Pre-orders and I thought it meant that it wasn't a problem that people could pre-order a Wii. But it was that when they opened pre-orders they had to close it quickly becuase so many people ordered it. And the problem was that the people who wanted a notifictation that the pre-orders were open didn't get one.
The current wording in the article says that it was a glitch the they started accepting pre-orders. Grey Goshawk 10:53, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amazon Pre-Order Glitch 

message: Please excuse me if I missed this in the article, but things like the Opera browser will require the user to be able to enter text (e.g. URLs, text fields) using the Wii Remote/Nunchuck. How is this done? BrokenBeta [talk · contribs] 20:34, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't know. There could be a on-screen keyboard, the Wii could also possibly support USB keyboards. TJ Spyke 20:35, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In the Mii channel they briefly named a new Mii via an on-screen keyboard, my guess is that they will have an on-screen keyboard that pops up when you point somewhere or press a button. I doubt they'll support USB keyboards because the point of the Wii hardly seems to be text-intensive things like writing emails or forum posts (or editing Wikipedia... imagine editing the Wii article while using a Wii!). That's more PS3 territory. But at this point it's anyone's guess I suppose. --Twile 22:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Text input 

message: From this. Can anyone confirm this?
"The name Nintendo means ‘luck from Heaven’. The name Revolution means ‘overthrow of a ruler’. People still ask, “Why didn’t they just keep ‘Revolution’ as the name of the console?” Aside from the obvious reasons (already trademarked, internet searching for ‘wii’ is much easier to find the console than ‘revolution’, etc.), Nintendo did keep the ‘Revolution’ name. They simply combined Nintendo and Revolution which comes out as ‘Wii’. In Kanji of the old Japanese (19th century and earlier), the name ‘wii’ can literally mean the ‘overthrow of the gods’."
--Zooba 21:00, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, to do that would be original research, so unless they publish it somewhere, we're out of luck either way on this one. --Maxamegalon2000 18:26, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If NoE do reply and say, "Yes, 'Wii' neans 'overthrow the gods' in pre-19th century Japanese," couldn't I take a screenshot and cite it as my source? Or would Wikipedia still see that as original research? --Zooba 18:31, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm really not sure about that.  Let's cross that bridge when we come to it.  It doesn't sound particularily verifiable to me. --Maxamegalon2000 18:36, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Name origin. Is this true? 

message: "Wii will be able to connect to the Internet through its"
Changing.Kirbysuperstar 03:54, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very subtle 

message: Wii will include region encoding into Virtual console games, i find this highly stupid since this means Europe, UK, America and Australia will miss out on all those vital titles that hit only Japan.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.74.227 (talk • contribs) 
:Sign your comments with four ~ signs please. Could you source that? I didn't see anything about VC games coming region encoded, but would it really matter? The system is designed for you to download games to your console, not import games. Besides, VC is a great chance for Nintendo to put games that never made it to the states (or any other region for that matter) up for sale to a new market. Mightyhog 14:44, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no clue on the source either but assuming he is correct then it would void your last sentence.  A game released in Japan only for the NES would stay Japan only on VC, problem with this comes from things like Final Fantasy that if release for the VC were later released in the States on the PS.  This raises some interesting questions about the VC anyway, can't wait for it to come out.Sir hugo 17:07, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps he is referring to this...? Virtual Console games will be tailored to each territory. This isn’t to say that Europe won’t see games that are released in the US, this means that the games will see tweaks for each territory. Source: GoNintendo blog entry taken from eurogamer.net --Zooba 19:53, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm kinda hoping this will be changed if it's true. If I were Nintendo, I would do it. Because you'd be nuts to deny people games they've never got but heard were cool so would pay for them. Vitriol 21:24, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, I see. It says that the Virtual Console games would be slightly altered. I hope they don't do nuts with that. Vitriol 21:25, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I wouldn't expect an unaltered Japanese game available on the North American VC, but this makes a wonderful chance for Nintendo to translate old games that have long been region-exclusive Mightyhog 21:37, 3 October 2006 (UTC)

text: It's probably just for 50/60hz issues.Kirbysuperstar 14:19, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Speaking of region encoding, there appears to be nothing in the article about it. Even though I have heard that both the software and virtual console games will be region locked. I'm too lazy right now to write a paragraph about it so someone else should.SmartSped 07:59, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I heard, first party games are reigon free, and Nintendo haven't decided about third party. Kirbysuperstar 13:43, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Region encoding

message: I think there should be some indication on the page which games use the Nunchuk peripheral, or at least, games that are announced to use it. Knuckles sonic8 22:04, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That is something that can go on individual game pages. TJ Spyke 22:06, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah In guess.. Knuckles sonic8 22:20, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nunchuk VS Wii Remote

message: In the Virtual Console section it says something about "Wii Points" that are needed to buy the Virtual console and games for it. Can someone please explain in that section what Wii points are and how to earn them? - The preceding comment was made by Grevenko Sereth 19:02, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They aren't needed, but can be used to buy gamnes and other things on the Wii shopping channel.  You simply buy a $20USD wii points card at a retailer, and then you earn points every time you buy a game.  hopes this helpes.--Ac1983fan(yell at me) 11:49, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Virtual Console 

message: hey i found out recently that the system costs $300 in a nintendo power mag—Preceding unsigned comment added by Tailsdollcurse (talk • contribs) 
:No it doesn't. TJ Spyke 19:11, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 300 of what country's dollars, sold in which country, after which political subdivision's taxes are added? --Damian Yerrick (☎) 19:15, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  price 

message: Shouldn't it be listed as "Unknown", not "No"? As far as I know, it won't not be coming to Europe. In fact, there are a fair few games there that should be listed as "Unknown"...
I would edit it myself, but with this vandalism claim...
Guest 10:09, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a list of launch titles. Pokemon Battle Revolution is definitely not going to be available at launch, so it's a "No". Sockatume 18:20, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pokémon Battle Revolution - Europe 

message: The "Pricing" section should include exactly what is included in the price. I can understand that extra wiimotes, etc, come at another price, but what is included in the way of controllers, memory cards, and so forth...Stormx2 20:28, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That has been confirmed for a few weeks. It comes with 1 Wii Remote (the CORRECT name), 1 nunchuk, a set of AV cables, the stand, and a copy of Wii Sports (which is a seperate disc). I think this is all mentioned in the Wii article. TJ Spyke 05:47, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarifications on what is included in the purchase 

message: There are 2 games that I know of (and there are probabaly more) that are not included in the list of launch titles. I know that Dragonball Z Budokai Tenkaichi 2 and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption are launch titles yet they are not on the list. I also think there are more missing from that list, why arnt these games included?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jarvisganon (talk • contribs) 
:Because they are no longer launch titles. MP3 was pushed back until 2007, and DBZ was pushes back to 2007 as well. TJ Spyke 00:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Super Mario Galaxy is not a launch title, where has NINTENDO (and not some rumor site like Kotaku or GoNintendo) say it was a launch title? TJ Spyke 04:42, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Um, in case you didn't notice. They also list games that won't come out until nexty year (like Battalion Wars 2). SMG is NOT a launch title and they have never said it was. TJ Spyke 21:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Can you provide a link to the site? I viewed two or three sites and can't find anything about SMG bieng a launch game. Unless you give us some proof, we're going to have to stick with the Q1 2007 date. Same goes for MP3 and any other game. --Sasuke-kun27 21:25, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's here: , but it just says "Coming Soon" and lists several games in development. TJ Spyke 21:31, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But if you look at the wii.nintendo.com main page, right under software it says "Take a sneak peek at the unprecedented Wii launch lineup" and links to a page with 9 games listed, including Super Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. Again I think this was an error in the web design, but it does give the impression that all those games are in the "launch lineup". --Twile 14:48, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Launch Titles? 

message: Is this a good enough source? http://www.aussie-nintendo.com/index.php?v=dates if so, can someone add it, as i dont know how to refer to sources --Idontgottaname 23:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Errm you mean Wii Play comes with a Wiimote. Wii sports comes with the console and its already listed.--Dacium 07:16, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yep. Sorry bout that. fixed now --Idontgottaname 11:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii remote with wii play in Australia 

message: User:Nova Prime has added Australian launch info, the problem is that it's not from Nintendo of Australia. It's from some site called palgn.com.au, should this be removed? TJ Spyke 06:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why remove it? Palgn has ties to game stores and often has far superior info than what Nintendo Aus publish on their website. --Dacium 07:14, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not familiar with that site, so I don't know how reliable they are. TJ Spyke 07:26, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm a regular reader and I find that they are quite reliable, and the article I took the majority of the release dates from mentions they got the dates from Activision, EA, THQ and Ubi. And as Dacium said, Nintendo Australia are pretty hopeless. Nova Prime 07:29, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nintendo Australia just sit on their asses all day and hope for the best. I've never seen the WFC site updated since before MP:H came out. PALGN, on the other hand is indeed a very reliable source. Kirbysuperstar 13:47, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australia launch 

message: I got some insight from a co-worker who also works at EB Games (USA) that Wii Reservations starts tomorrow 10/13/2006 @ EB Games/Gamestops across the United States. It will be $50 USD to reserve your console.
I don't know if this belongs here, I just wanted to help you guys out!64.8.28.2 17:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I heard it as well, and I think GameStop has officially announced it. Thanks for the heads up, but do note that the article talk page is for talking about improving the article itself, not as a discussion board ;). -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 17:57, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think a bit about it on the page would be a good idea. Something like "Wii officially went on Pre-Order October 13, 2006 for..." under release date. JQF 18:18, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to their email, its only a partial preorder. They expect to run out of consoles soon. Jaxad0127 18:52, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: JQF, this is just one retailer. Amazon took orders a couple of weeks ago and FYE has been taking pre-orders for months. So it's not like tomorrow will be the first time Wii has been available for pre-order. So it's not worth mentioning on the page. TJ Spyke 19:22, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I hadn't relized others were offering pre-orders. In that cause, it probably doesn't matter. JQF 20:02, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Every company I can think of has been taking pre-orders, I fail to see the relevance of the date that some stores began offering the service. Caseh 16:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I know the article's protected at the moment, but if you are to add this, you'll probably need a source. ~ EmeZxX 11:35, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Ouch..my bad. What's worse, I live in Australia ._. ~ EmeZxX 12:20, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii Reservations 

message: could somebody with permission stick some double brackets around "anamorphic widescreen" ?
--Johnruble 02:13, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. -- Doc711 20:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  linkify anamorphic widescreen 

message: There seems to be a LOT of citations in the Sensor Bar section. This is just my opinion but I think that it's been overdone. You don't need to verify that it has a one megapixel image sensor TWICE. The amout of [Citation Needed] is also quite over-the-top. And things like [The sensor bar can be placed anywhere near the display screen and parallel to the screen's horizontal edge] do not need to be cited as it's simply common sense. I'll leave this to you guys who actually run the article though... --210.11.82.26 05:34, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The citations are needed because of the Consolse wars. Everything needs to be shown true otherwise we would have to start accepting fanboy type comments. --Dacium 05:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Not necessarily common sense. Besides that, many video game websites are pretty shaky on their own; IGN is often taken to be somewhat reliable, for example, but they do post a lot of speculation and garbage. Having a number of sources rarely hurts. -- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 06:05, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too Much Citations? 

message: In  the 'confimed launch titles' section, it states that Far Cry Vengence isn't a launch title for the wii in Europe, but after checking the GAME website I found that it says there that it is http://www.game.co.uk/ViewProduct.aspx?cat=11443&mid=329578.  I'm not sure if this is reliable, if someone could confirm it and add it into the article that would be great. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wjuk (talk • contribs) 
:We go by what official sources say, not what a game store says. Neither Nintendo nor Ubisoft have announced it as a launch title in Europe. TJ Spyke 20:33, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Far Cry Vengence as European launch title?

message: Perhaps someone should mention that the spelling of "Wii" and "Mii" (in particular, the use of "ii" to denote what most English speakers would spell as "ee") is in a large part due to the Romanization system(s) used in Japan that spell in this way?  (To the Japanese eye, it looks like a cool pseudo-foreign word, and of course very few people know the English words that it sounds like, besides the pronoun.)
Edededed 11:18, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding the Naming of "Wii" 

message: I can't add it, since the page is protected but it's a very nice overview:
* http://arstechnica.com/articles/culture/wii.ars How the Wii was born (Ars Technica)
-- nyenyec ☎ 17:28, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  One more external link: "How the Wii was born" 

message: I think it should be mentioned somwhere in this article that the wiimote (and nunchuk attachment) is interchangable between the right and left hands. Balljoint 1:46 Pm, Sun. 15, Oct. 2006 (UTC)
"Because the Wii Remote and Nunchuk controllers are only relatively dependant on each  other, players are free to hold them in whichever hand is most comfortable. The ambidextrous nature of the Wii controllers grants accessibilty seldom seen in game controllers." -quoted from the Wii section of Nintendo.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.67.40.124 (talk • contribs) 
:this apears to be so, with both the nunchuk and the main remote being symetrical, and as such what hand you use shouldent effect the 'feel' of using itShinigami Josh 01:56, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The only game I see this really being a problem with is Zelda since the Wii Remote controls Link's sword (which is in his right hand), although Nintendo did this because they know most people are right handed. TJ Spyke 02:03, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  idont see how this would effect it, as specific gestures relate to swrod strokes, it wont be an exact replay of your specific motion Shinigami Josh 03:23, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just meant it might be a little awkward for left handed people, unless they plan on keeping the Wii Remote in their right hand. TJ Spyke 03:25, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If this wasn't mentioned it should be, as it's pretty important for the lefties out there. Shinigami, there's no reason to get nasty. TJ is correct in a sense, it might look odd or be disconcerting to be doing jabs and such with the Remote in the left hand, and having the character do with the right hand. Apparently this was strong enough to make Nintendo turn Link into a righty for the Wii version (though not strong enough to allow for it to be customized in-game). So if you're calling TJ an idiot, you're calling Nintendo an idiot too. --Twile 18:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

text: It has been stated that Link will break with tradition and use his right arm for sword swinging, but this does not necessarily mean that lefties can't change a setting making Link left armed again. Nintendo has had a good track record for this kind of detail, I wouldn't be worried about it at all. --Thaddius 18:41, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You have to wonder, though, if they said they're making him a lefty in one and a righty in the other, why wouldn't they have already announced (especially when we're just a month away) if you could choose one setting or another in the game? Ah well, we'll see. --Twile 18:50, 16 October 2006 (UTC)

text: but if it is left in one and right on the other, it shows that it has been done with each hand, so it wouldent be a far step to be able to choose between the two, but the cut scenes (if any) would be the same regardless of what handedness the character is. i would also like to say that my previous comments were not ment to be insulting at anyone and if it was i would like to say sorryShinigami Josh 21:26, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your forgetting about what they did when they made him right-handed. The inverted ALL of the maps in the game. Thats a major change. To let Link's handedness be changeable, the maps would have to be changeable as well. And cutseens in LOZ aren't prerendered videos. They're usually done with the game mechanics, making this issue nonexistant. Jaxad0127 00:10, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: what do you mean "inverted all the maps"? could you put a link??Shinigami Josh 03:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Check IGN, they inverted(like flipping it in a mirror) all the maps when they made Link right handed. TJ Spyke 03:33, 17 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Quote from Miyamoto: "Although Link is [traditionally] left-handed, at E3 we noticed people seemed to be using the right Wii controller to swing his sword. That's why we decided to make Link right-handed. The interesting this is, on the GameCube Link is still left-handed; because of the mirror mode the game map is reversed." I hope this isn't true because flipping the entire map to correct the handedness is like turning your house around so there's no glare on the tv from the sun. Why not just flip the Link model? There must be a translation error or a misquote. --Thaddius 01:41, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I remember reading something about how it opened up new weak spots on Link if they just switched him. Like, an enemy is programmed to attack Link's right side because that's where Link would protect himself. Well, if you just switch Link, he's no longer protected on that side because the enemy is still attacking that side. If you switch everything, the enemy attacks on the correct side and it doesn't open up holes. Basically, it would make the game 10X harder if you didn't flip everything because you'd have to switch to mostly defensive instead of offensive. --pIrish 01:55, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This still makes little sense. If that were the case, left handed people would experience the '10X harder' version of the game you speak of because the game was flipped to allow for righties. Unless of course the game flipped back for left handed people, which is unprescidented. I'd like to see this article where it goes into greater detail about the 'flipping'. --Thaddius 16:48, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Still, both dexterities are used to the control stick being on the left (nunchuck) so it's likely that both will keep it there. — Jaxad0127 18:11, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

text: You seem to be missing the point. The reason they switched everything and not just Link has very little to do with whether you're left-handed or right-handed. Yes, they decided to make the switch because most people were right-handed and they decided to make it feel more natural for the majority of their audience. But the reason they decided to switch everything instead of just Link was because of the increased difficulty of the game when just switching Link. And to see the articles, just google "Zelda Wii mirror" and you'll get several hits about it. --pIrish 13:07, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. Like I said earlier, left-handed people will probably have the controller/nunchuck in the same hands as right-handed people because they're used to having the analog stick on the left. — Jaxad0127 13:36, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to suggest that if you want to keep going at this, you take it to the page for Twilight Princess instead. If you have more general questions or comments about the system itself that's great, but this seems to be highly focused on a single game which does have its own page. --Twile 14:52, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ambidextrous

message: In one part of the Virtual Console section, it confusingly reads:
::...and the MSX home computer. [8] NES games ...
where [8] is the external link.  For better context it should be moved before the period or converted into a reference, so it reads, for example:
::...and the MSX home computer[8]. NES games ...
Peter O. (Talk) 03:36, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done--Konst.able 04:40, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing portion in "Virtual Console" 

message: Since the page is STILL locked. Here are citations for the North American launch:
http://www.planetgamecube.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=12171 for Madden NFL 07 and Need for Speed: Carbon
http://www.planetgamecube.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=11866 for Blazing Angels: Squadrons of WWII, Far Cry: Instincts, Open Season, Monster 4x4 World Circuit, GT Pro Series, Red Steel, Rayman Raving Rabids
http://www.atlus.com/prpdf/tcso.pdf for Trauma Center: Second Opinion (coming out 5 days before launch accordint to Atlus.
I can get more tomorrow. TJ Spyke 04:54, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Gamefaqs release listings. Somehow, a few titles are coming before the system itself... --Nintendorulez talk 18:07, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Launch games 

message: I've listed it for IfD because it seems to be a copyvio (see: ). If it is indeed a cv, it's between two photos which are honestly somewhat poor. Which to use?
 or  ?
-- Consumed Crustacean (talk) 03:01, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controller Photo 

message: Im a noob so don't blame me if i stuff anything up. My queery is on the Region lock for the wii console. Can someone please explain to me what is going on. I am planning at the end of the year to go to Japan and buy a wii with the bleach game so i'd like to know what to do and what to buy. I live in Australia so I don't know what type of cables they use to plug the console to the tv set. can someone explain that to me to. 
If anyone can help me with anything regarding it email me at andreijanca@hotmail.com
Andreijanca 09:09, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Region lock applies to games. So, a console bought in Japan should only play Japanese games, refusing other regions. Jaxad0127 14:53, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Region lock???? 

message: I think there should be a page or section about their current and future advetsing for wii.
for example for twilight princess promo shots go to 
ATrueMasterSwordsman.bebo.com
the owner of that bebo has some promo shots taken 3 months ago for twilight.
he is the one in those pictures
Nitromaster 21:32, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nintendos Advertising of wii 

message: I think I've added the release date for Canada a few times. Seems like it keeps getting taken away, but I don't really know why. Someone signed their revert with 'we've been over this' but there was no explanation as to why. Can someone enlighten me as to why there's we allow a US release date on the page but not one for Canada or Mexico? Just want to point out that the US does not include Canada or Mexico. --Thaddius 16:21, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I can only think of one thing; No confirmation, If no one can show that the release dates are correct then yeah I can see why they were removed but otherwise I can't see any logical reason not to have them up there. -- Doc711 17:29, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: lol. I hope that's not it cause the Canadian release date of November 19th is the first thing you see when you go to nintendo.ca. If that's the problem I'll just re-ad it. But I'll wait for people to reply I guess. --Thaddius 18:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't need flags for every country. Almost without exception, when a video game is released in North America it comes out on the same day in the US and Canada, so there is really need for just one flag. Same thing with Mexico, I only see a need for seperate flags if their are seperate release dates. I do wish that we had a flag for North America like there is with Europe, then we wouldn't have to put up with this. TJ Spyke 19:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

text: it seams fine the way it is, any way not all things come out in Mexico and Canada on the same day. but by that logic we could drop the us release an then leave up the Mexican or Canadian release.Shinigami Josh 22:17, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We really do need flags for North America and Northern America (US and Canada). But, since it launches on the same day in the entire hemisphere, we'd need a flag for it all. — Jaxad0127 01:35, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I did try to switch to the abbreviations mentioned at Template talk:Infobox CVG#Alternative to flags, but it was quickly reverted. I guess as problematic as the flags are, people really didn't like the other idea. Dancter 01:51, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Then why don't' we just remove the flag and write 'North America'? Or remove them all together cause there's a chart right below it. Maybe a little 'see below' in the 'release date' part would do too. These are much better solutions than deciding that the US is important enough to get a flag while Canada and Mexico aren't. A little POV, I think. --Thaddius 23:22, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The US is the biggest individual country gaming wise, and if there are gonna be flags then it makes sense for it to be the US one. TJ Spyke 23:34, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't there a split flag somewhere? One that's half the US Flag and half the Canadian Flag? Why not use that, or something like it? JQF 23:57, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I think there is, I know i've seen it. I don't know what the code for it is though. TJ Spyke 00:04, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well my suggestion still stands, removing the flags all together. I know Americans love seeing their flag, but maybe we should do what the Nintendo 64 article is doing and merely have an NA thing, doing the same for the other regions. Also, we can merely say 'see chart below', the imformation is repeated on that chart comparing the prices. I also fail to see the relevance of the US being a large video game consumer. This is irrelevant when on considers that the system is also being released in the two areas that I've mentioned. I'll try to look for that half Canada\US thing then we can just add a Mexican one I guess. Another thing people do is just put them all in a row. --Thaddius 01:37, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While that may solve the problem, their are people (myself included) who don't like the way it looks, and it presents problems when those regions aren't all uniform for a release. People also like the flags because it looks good visually. As for adding Mexico, that's fine by me, infact something allong the lines of the NAFTA emblem would work. Puting them in a row is the common solution (which I tried to do a while back), but there are people who dislike this method because it disrupes the alignment of the dates. JQF 15:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canada and Mexico? 

message: Can anyone explain to me why it says on the page:
As of October 2006, it has been confirmed that at least 21 titles will be available on launch day in North America
When I count the Yes in the North American column, I end up with 26 (including Wii Sports) titles? I noticed that someone tried to change it to 25 (although he she/she should have put 26) and then TJ Spyke changed it back to 21.Duhman0008 19:47, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's because of the source used had it at 21, although it does say "at least 21". I wouldn't be opposed to changing it though. TJ Spyke 20:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well that must have been before THQ confirmed the launch date of their 4 Wii titles. Now that they have confirmed that Avatar, Barnyard, Cars and SpongeBob will be there on the 19th, 25 would be the appropriate number. Also, I just got off the phone with NOA, they said that although they do have Wii sports as a launch title, there's nothing mentioned if it will also be sold separately (in case somebody looses it or brakes it). But in either case, even if it's simply bundled with the system, it's still a launch title that deserves to be included in the number 26.Duhman0008 20:33, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wii Sports is already counted. TJ Spyke 20:45, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, you or somebody else forgot to count another one because the initial total should have been 22. We currently have 26 titles confirmed for launch (including Wii Sports), now if we remove the 4 THQ titles that were confirmed later, then we should have been left with 22. Anyway, you want to make the modification or would you prefer me doing it?Duhman0008 20:49, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Launch title conflict 

message: Will every Wii Package come with Wii Sports? By this image: http://www.nintendoevolved.com/images/stories/general/wiibox2.jpg
it seems that not every Wii Package won't have Wii Sports packed in (since it doesn't say in the box Wii Sports included). 74.111.14.37
:Wii Sports IS bundled with the system, it even says so on the front of the box (there is a big "Wii Sports included" logo). It hasn't even been confirmed that those boxes seen in the pics are real. Also, I will have to check, but I don't think the launch DS boxes listed the Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt demo on the back. TJ Spyke 21:45, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeing as it's proven that Wii Sports is bundled with the console, and there are numerous boxes that have been shown to state there isn't Wii Sports in the box, isn't it safe to assume the "Startup Disc" contains Wii Sports?WatashiNoAiken 19:29, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The retail boxes confirm a "startup disc" as part of the package, but not a specific Wii Sports disc. The question is what is included on the startup disc; I'd guess a tutorial of some sort, plus Wii Sports. Kelvingreen 19:41, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt it, we've seen that Wii Sports will be in it's own case (at least in Europe). It's not even confirmed that those boxes are the final boxes. TJ Spyke 19:47, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'd also suspected that. We'll probably see a disc shrink-wrapped to the box in stores. Kelvingreen 19:50, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I'm sure that I read on the Nintendo website or the EB Games site, that it comes with a "Startup disc" and Wii Sports NiVoMi (i didn't do it!) 20:33, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wii Sports in Package?

message: Do we have links to confirm how many AA batteries are going to be needed per remote, and how much time this will run it? Why they didn't put a power source into it and add 15 bucks is beyond me. Nevermind. I'm an Idiot. Shanesan 06:08, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wil get links tomorrow, but the Wii Remote uses 2 AA bateries and last about 30 hours. TJ Spyke 06:09, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

text: i have seen stuff on it on gamespot i think... i think it might have to do with the weight it might add ect. but i doubt nintendo would stop a thrid party recargeable battery packShinigami Josh 07:05, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nyko is already making a charging stand for the Wii Remote, gamestop.com has it listed for $29.99  TJ Spyke 07:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wii Remote and Batteries

message: Shouldn't there be info about sony's "fact" sheet. http://ps3.qj.net/lawsuit-season-2-nintendo-looking-into-suing-sony-too-/pg/49/aid/70395#commentsSuperway25 02:11, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't imagine why. --Maxamegalon2000 02:17, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sony's next gen fact sheet 

message: Just ran across this like two minutes ago. Ubisoft has announced 14 titles. . The note at the bottom should be changed.74.137.230.39 23:12, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ubisoft

message: What is a USD? I have never heard of it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.135.54.227 (talk • contribs) .
:A USD is a US dollar. Also, please Sign your posts with ~~~~, and leave new comments on the bottom of the page.--Ac1983fan(yell at me) 12:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Define USD 

message: Hello, I wanted to know if the nunchuck and the wiimote will be sold together or separately?
200.109.30.10 19:53, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Read the article. The Wii will come with 1 Wii Remote and 1 Nunchuk. Extras will be sold seperatly, with the Wii Remote beign $39.99 USD and the Nunchuk $19.99 USD. TJ Spyke 19:55, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Not every game uses the Nunchuk though. Also, it's Wii Remote, Wiimote is just an irritatin nickname that the press started calling it. TJ Spyke 20:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Although it is call a Wii Remote, you're free to call it whatever you wish, as long as it's not on the article page.Duhman0009 22:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Duhman is right I suppose, just like I can call the PS3 a piece of turd as long as I don't put it in the article. TJ Spyke 23:10, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bad example. There is a difference between posting something that is meant as an insult and contratcing  two words to make a shorter word that takes less time to type. It is more like calling the PlayStation 3 PS3 to save time. --70.48.172.143 02:31, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Doesn't matter. The point is you can call it whatever you want on the discussion page, not the article.  67.99.60.231 18:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Will the Nunchuck and the Wiimote come together at the time of buying them? 

message: There's no information about the prices of the games, please post them as soon as possible.
200.109.30.10 19:56, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats because we don't know their final prices (except for a few choice games (like TP)). — Jaxad0127 02:04, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you post the prices of those few games that you know? 190.36.220.246 20:15, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: First party games will be $49.99, so far every third party game i've seen is also $49.99, although it's up to third parties to decide. TJ Spyke 20:25, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prices of the games 

message: Are there any informations about the dimensions of the Wii's box? I wonder how big it'll be since the sensor bar is a bit large... Thanks.200.109.30.10 20:20, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The sensor bar is only 7.87 inches long. TJ Spyke 20:23, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So, could you tell me plus or less its dimensions, in your opinion?200.109.30.10 20:33, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: the demensions are less than 3 dvd boxes on top of each other, most likly smaller Shinigami Josh 23:57, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The dimensions are on the site. As for the size of the box itself, i'm not sure. TJ Spyke 00:24, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dimensions of the box