Talk:Albanisation

message: The text seems to have an anti-Albanian bias.
Travelbird 03:37, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Disruptive edit the references are clear and to the pointdiffMegistias (talk) 15:56, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: General comments

message: Kosovo (Albanian: Kosova) is a good example; Kosovo was in the early 15th century, dominantly Serb, but since Albanians great diaspora, the Albanians have overrun the serbian population in Kosovo, making Serbs leave, Kosovo has been Albanisated. Albanisation of territories can also be seen in western Macedonia, as well as in Northwestern Greece, Arbereshe, in Italy and Montenegro. —Preceding unsigned comment added by FrancisTyers (talk • contribs) 23:00, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Uncited

message: The majority of the population of Kosovo has always been Albanians. In thw 15th century Kosovo was dominantly Albanian. The term Albanisation is somthing Serbs have made up. Albanians have always been victims of Serbianization. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Noah30 (talk • contribs) 20:13, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ottoman demographics have not really been explored and have been highly politicized by both (nationalist) Albanian and Serb historians (see: Serbian historiography, Albanian historiography and also consult the work Anscombe, Frederick (2006). "The Ottoman Empire in Recent International Politics - II: The Case of Kosovo". The International History Review. 28 (4) ) who actually looks at the Ottoman archive. About saying that one country was not friendly is up to conjecture. One could make the same argument and say that parts of Europe back in the day where hostile to Albanians and their interests (i.e Russia etc) because they were/are Muslims. Albanians don't appear in the (church) records of Serbs because they are Muslims and not Orthodox, the same way that Serbs don't figure much in Ottoman records because they are Orthodox and not Muslims (see Anscombe). In Ottoman archival records, the area of Kosovo (and the adjacent Toplica and Morava areas were known as Arnavutluk, or Albania ) and numerous references to the Arnavuts (Albanians) of the area (usually to do with civil disturbances, tax issues etc). Read the Anscombe article. Its non-nationalistic scholarship. On "Albanisation", Albanians absorbed Slavic peoples and they also absorbed Albanians at certain points in time (due to religious, geographical and other factors). However that Arnautaš theory that was advocated for a long time in Serbian circles was overall political propaganda and is noted in scholarship .Resnjari (talk) 14:05, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Serbian propaganda

message: The term Albania in Albanian languge don´t exist als souch how it is in english and other gjerman and latin family languges. In fact albanisation is a term witch is meaning, calling more Albanians (Albanian is "Shqiptar") elements in souch languges Albanian. 
This is comming from peopel who dont know nothing about albanians in real life, but from some boocks and idiotic logic thate only Albanians in Albania are Albanias. For souch peopel is good to be created a article Shqiptar, Shqipëria and Shqipnija after thate they will understand thate the word albanisation hase nothing to do with "albanisation" but with repareng the measteks in english languge witch is comming from the Serbian ortodox literatur. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hipi Zhdripi (talk • contribs) -using the IP - 15:14, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The term  

message: I'm doing POV tag cleanup. Whenever an POV tag is placed, it is necessary to also post a message in the discussion section stating clearly why it is thought the article does not comply with POV guidelines, and suggestions for how to improve it. This permits discussion and consensus among editors. This is a drive-by tag, which is discouraged in WP, and it shall be removed. Future tags should have discussion posted as to why the tag was placed, and how the topic might be improved. Better yet, edit the topic yourself with the improvements. This statement is not a judgement of content, it is only a cleanup of frivolously and/or arbitrarily placed tags. No discussion, no tag.Jjdon (talk) 21:39, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV Tag 

message: I have added two templates to the article because the article contains many claims that are not verified. The article is based on original research and this is against the Wikipedia-rules. I beleive this article is created for propaganda purposes and does not describe a phenomenon. --Noah30 (talk) 09:20, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality disputed / Original research 

message: Wow, I can't believe that this article existed, my faith on WP fades rapidly ... no more comments.--Pinjolli 22:03, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The most stupid article ever on WP 

message: Removed OR in the first paragraph. No references provided for a full year. --Sulmues (talk) 14:12, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rm OR 

message: With this edit editor ZjarriRrethues added assertion that process of Albanisation is theory which "independent scholarship as dismissed".
The source for this assertion is page 20 of work written by Noel Malcolm, a president of Anglo-Albanian Association.
I read trough page 20 but could not find any text which support the assertion that independent scholarship. I apologize if I overlooked it.
Will you ZjarriRrethues please be so kind to present a quote which support the assertion about "independent scholarship" you added to the text of this article?--Antidiskriminator (talk) 08:48, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Independent scholarship dismissed  

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Albanisation's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "MORACA2":
From Serbo-Montenegrins in Albania: 
From Vraka: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 23:27, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Albanisation]] 

message: The migration sub section is claiming extraordinary claims like 300 000 Albanians moving from Albania to Kosovo per invitation by Tito(Liotta 1999). this is extraordinary as it goes against what demographic data says (see, Demographics of Kosovo). this makes it Wikipedia:EXTRAORDINARY and Wikipedia:UNDUE. the other source is Sremac 1999 whcih has been criticized for support Serbian national narratives  and for minimizing ethnic cleansing . Durraz0 (talk) 17:07, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Migration 

message: I've already removed the Arnaut theory on grounds of ridiculous POV. However, Rahovec does not seem better. The whole section can not be upheld with one (non-RS?) source. The whole topic about Kosovo is highly debated and one should provide reliable, modern sources. AlexBachmann (talk) 21:39, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rahovec