Talk:Chicago bid for the 2016 Summer Olympics

message: This article was created as a result of its (1) historic nature for Chicago and (2) overflow of good information that couldn't fit in the main 2016 Summer Olympics article.  This article was created in the same fashion that the New York City 2012 Olympic bid article was written.  Gerald Farinas 02:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments 

message: This article is not at all complete if it does not highlight any criticism of the proposal and report on any municipal political opposition.  I don't have the wherewithal to complete it, but certainly this material should be mentioned.  Here's a start:
http://www.chicago2016.com/2016/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=560:an-open-letter-to-olympic-activists&catid=32:public-articles&Itemid=30
http://nogames.wordpress.com/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.135.24.158 (talk) 00:21, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Why Is There No Mention of Any Criticism or Popular Opposition??

message: Hi, having read a story on the BBC on how much the Beijing Olympics cost and seeing how this page contains a breakdown of how much Chicago's Olympics will cost, I thought that it was fair to mention the costs of the Beijing Olympics in the "Financing" page.  It looks like this was removed within a day without comment (August 1).  Surely the costs of an identical event in a developing country (one with next to free land and labor costs) is relevant enough to mention?  Let's discuss...    —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.34.25.93 (talk) 13:18, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I reworded the previously removed edit and put it back.  I really think that it's relevant to have the costs of previous Olympic events in the section where Chicago's budget is described. I also included is a reference to the final costs of the Athens Olympics ($9 billion).  If someone wants to remove these references, can we have the courtesy of explaining the reasons for doing so?  I don't see any issue over the relevance and/or reliability of the BBC but I could be wrong.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.150.39.52 (talk) 16:13, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comparison with Beijing Olympic Costs

message: I've updated the "Recent Developments" section with the announcement that Chicago was chosen, however, I'll leave the rest of the updating to someone more capable than I am at this. Charlie Dunk 20:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Update

message: i've noticed that there's a photo gallery here http://www.chicago2016.org/venue_gallery.aspx - i dunno how to upload photos, could someone do it for me? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.138.106.231 (talk) 20:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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message: Some of the word choice in this article seems a bit loaded.  For example:
:Chicago benefits from a strong sports culture and is arguably one of the most sport-oriented cities in the United States.
:The Chicago Transit Authority operates a vast and efficient network of buses and "L" trains...
I know these aren't blatantly NPOV.  However, the article almost reads like an ad for Chicago.  Shouldn't the article point out the pluses and minuses of the bid?H.al-shawaf 16:06, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well actually, the first one is actually semi-NPOV because there is one source in the article (I know, because I introduced it) that says that Chicago is one of the top sports cities in the US, if not the top. Both are, I'd admit, very "loaded," though. I may need some sprucing up all around, but I do believe, like the first one, that many statements are true but worded in a biased way. └Jared┘┌talk┐  22:02, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
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message: Early cost estimates hover at $5 billion, with $1.1 billion needed for the lakeside Olympic Village and an additional estimated $366 million for a temporary 80,000 seat Olympic Stadium to be built in Washington Park.
(this is my first day and first suggested edit - thanks for the opportunity to participate)
(DeepDishChicago 16:11, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey, thanks for that! That may be really helpful. If you'd like to try to integrate it into the article in the appropriate section, we'd appreciate it! Leave a message on my talk page if you need help! └Jared┘┌talk┐  20:36, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind. I see you already have! Good job. └Jared┘┌talk┐  20:37, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Financing 

message: I see 33 citations on this page, which is good, but there are still about 10 "citation needed" tags all over it, placed there at two different times.  There is a long way to go.  Unfortunately, I can't help you, so I am pleading for the help particularly of the Chicago-based Wikipedians!  Read the passages, then find the sources. - Desmond Hobson 18:02, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Too many unsourced statements

message: These should be merge in to a section called something like "Previous American bids" or something to that effect. The articles won't develop themselves anymore than they are now, so merge. └Jared┘┌t┐  11:03, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about just merging them to 2016 Summer Olympics bids, like was done with other Olympics games... —dima/talk/ 03:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's also a possibility. But since they are American bids, I think there should be some mention of them in this article as well, but maybe not in as much detail. Just to suggest the fact that the US way vying for two other cities to bid, but because of X and Y factors, Chicago was chosen over the other two. Just maybe a short section like that. └Jared┘┌t┐  10:52, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose The fact that they are mature articles unlikely to develop further does not make them candidates for merger. TonyTheTiger (talk/cont/bio/tcfkaWCDbwincowtchatlotpsoplrttaDCLaM) 00:46, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Oppose Suppose that some bribery scheme is discovered in the future, as happened here;2002 Winter Olympic bid scandal, but involving SF or LA. Then the article would have to be split. We should wait until Oct 3, 2009 to discuss merging, and then only if the IOC does not choose Chicago. Speciate 02:40, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
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message: There is no new logo at present, but it was announced today that the "torch" logo is not allowed by the IOC for an Olympic Bid logo.
http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/2007-05-16-474334623_x.htm
from USA Today today Kidsheaven 02:19, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Former Logo as of May 16, 2007 

message: What happened to all the footnotes for the citations?  A good amount of the facts in this article are sourced, but clicking on them doesn't bring you to the bottom of the article, and upon scrolling down there it becomes clear that there are no footnotes at all.
askewchan 01:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A missing </ref> tag was omitting the sections below a unclosed reference. I've fixed that so all's good now. Parutakupiu talk || contribs 01:39, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
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message: What are the thoughts on the danielhonigman.com external links on the page?--TonyTheTiger (t/c/bio/WP:CHICAGO/WP:LOTD)  15:44, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: At brief glance, it looks sort of bloggy. Jared (t)  20:41, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
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replies: text: Done.  Ha! You've been foiled again, BetacommandBot!--Cbradshaw (talk) 17:32, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
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message: I've been reverting someon'es inclusion of opposition websites and online petitions. I mentioned in an edit summary that it is perfectly acceptable to document Notable opposition with reliable sources within the article itself. FYI: I don't care whether chicago gets the Olympics or not. Quite honestly I don't know how this article got in my watchlist. ccwaters (talk) 21:43, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: opposition website

message: I've noticed the article is nominated for a GA; there is one issue I noticed that should be tackled. The lead has quite a lot of references - the whole point of the lead is to summarize the article, so the references should be in the main body. There are no need for references in the lead unless it's something direct your taking from the source. -- A talk/contribs 03:50, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Note

message: The Venues section desperately needs to be updated. The bid book is out with the official venue plan, and yet Wrigley Field still has a picture and is "under consideration" according to this article. These links might help:
http://www.chicago2016.org/our-plan/proposed-venues.aspx
http://www.chicago2016.org/our-plan/bid-book/bid-book.aspx  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.236.83.93 (talk) 19:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update to Venues 

message: I heard Chicago has just been eliminated from the bid. Can anyone confirm? --Camilo Sanchez (talk) 15:28, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I was about to say.  That's a lot of work, and I'd be willing to tackle it, but I don't have time right now.  --MicahBrwn (talk) 16:44, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

text: I've gone through it with a medium-tooth comb.  Given the heavy citations, some paragraphs were hard to decipher, but hopefully I've got most of the tense changes taken care of.  --MicahBrwn (talk) 23:32, 4 October 2009 (UTC)

text: Thank God Chicago lost. Not for any political reasons, it just doesn't need any more construction and traffic. --Selfish Gene 2009 (talk) 19:20, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the two reasons it lost are (1) residents have gotten wise to the fact that hosting Olympics games is a costly white elephant in these days of tight budgets and were not willing to fully fund the idea, and (2) there have been a number of recent "wilding" incidents in Chicago that emphasized the city's reputation for violence and mayhem, which put off the IOC members.  Should we note this in the article?Arlesd (talk) 23:24, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
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