Talk:Wife Swap (British TV series)

message: Surely the phrase "It is based on Wife Swapping." is misleading?  Could it be replaced with something like "Its title is a pun on "Wife Swapping", another name for swinging."
Agreed, it leads you to think alot more is going on on that show ;)
:It seems to be common practice now for shows to be given eye-catching titles that draw adverse comment from the tabloid press (all publicity is good publicity, after all) only for the actual programmes to prove perfectly mundane. The exemplar of this was ITV's Celebrity Shark Bait... --88.109.39.128 14:18, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wife Swapping/ Swinging 

message: I think they should have their own article!--  Hornetman16  01:03, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. 68.44.179.54 (talk) 23:56, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  British/American Versions 

message: There are messages sent sometimes (including mailing lists and newsgroups), soliciting people to take a part in Wife Swap, signed as sent by Wife Swap producers or something, with a subject-specific paragraph prepended. People say those are really from Wife Swap authors. Is there any source to use to mention that in the article? --AVRS 08:20, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spam 

message: Lizzy Bardsley fails the general notability criteria for biographies: She has not "received significant recognized awards or honors" nor has she "made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field". The article is well-sourced but, beyond Wife Swap it just refers to minor appearances on Kilroy, The Weakest Link, a short-lived reality series given to her off the back of Wife Swap. Tax-dodging and smacking children around doesn't cover the notability criteria either. Brad (talk) 22:36, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I strongly disagree. Bardsley has "been the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." She had been the subject of widespread media attention, including from the BBC. She had her own television series in addition. I do believe the included sources do show independent notablity. Wife Swap lead to a short-lived television career, which is notable. Merging to this article would only lose the sort of information Wikipedia needs.--UpDown (talk) 10:49, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: But the media career came off the back of Wife Swap. I'm not suggesting the article be blanked and redirected, I'm suggesting an actual merge of the pertinent information: namely the "television career" section (downplaying the Kilroy and Weakest Link appearances). Again, it is well-sourced, but the section on criminal charges isn't relevant to anything. Just because the information exists, it doesn't mean we need to include it. Brad (talk) 15:43, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Jade Goody's career came off the back of Big Brother, does that mean her page should be merged. No, because she had an indepedent television career afterwards, like Bardsley (to a lesser extent I admit). Information like her spin-off TV series and Celebrity Fit Club have no relevance to Wife Swap article. As the MoS says people are notable if they are "the subject of published secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent, and independent of the subject." - she meets this.--UpDown (talk) 15:59, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Her career was brief. Jade Goody is still in the public view nearly six years after Big Brother. Lizzy Bardsley's "career" was minor television appearances and a novelty series ("Bed & Bardsleys" was hardly prime-time). Brad (talk) 21:00, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Brief maybe, but still a media career which is noteworthy. The other TV appearances do not belong on the Wife Swap article, as its not relevant. The article passes WP:BIO and should stay.--UpDown (talk) 08:09, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A shame when articles on authors are deleted (not directed at yourself of course). *sigh* I'll leave the merge propsal up in case anyone else wants to weigh in. Brad (talk) 14:17, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you referring to a particular article there? How long do you propose leaving the merge tag there, it can't be left there indefinatley. As I say I believe it passes WP:BIO and should stay.--UpDown (talk) 14:38, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Give it until the weekend or so. I doubt anyone else will come across the article but on the offchance. Brad (talk) 15:10, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to merge [[Lizzy Bardsley]] 

message: Variety came out with a spread today that features the history of the USA version (which airs its 100th episode on March 13th), and I noticed how this article only lightly touches on the many families that participated in the series. I suggest that this article be split into two distinct sections: one for the U.S. and one for the U.K., as to expand more on the content this show produces. U.S. version might come out longer due to the 100th episode hype, but hopefully the two versions will be able to balance out as a long-term improvement. Thoughts?Spring12 (talk) 01:48, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. The only mentions of the US version at all are one line in the intro and a paragraph about a lawsuit against Fox.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.40.212.28 (talk) 05:03, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: How about something similar to The X Factor (TV series).  The original show was the UK version; it went on to be franchised across the world; there are loads of sub-pages including The X Factor (UK).  So this page ought to become Wife Swap (TV series), the general discussion for the origin of the series and the territories it has spun off into, and if any of these individual country's shows are notable enough to have their own page, such as the UK and US versions, then make Wife Swap (UK) and Wife Swap (US). 86.152.23.225 (talk) 13:50, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting Article Into Two Sections for USA/UK Versions