Talk:History of skiing

message: Removed the comments: "When?" after the following as clearly should be in discussion not article:
In Austria centers of skiing activities were Mürzzuschlag and Semmering. When???
In the 19th century the Telemark ski revolutionized alpine skiing, being the first ski with a remarkable waist making it much easier for skiers to turn. When???
Dainamo 18:24, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: When?—2004

message: The terms are propably obsolete of wrong. "West siberian Ugro-Lapp" ski type for example. Which people are "Ugro-Lapp" referring? If this means Lapps (Sami people) used this type, how is this type West Siberian? Lapps are far away from West Siberia. According to modern science it is very questionable to claim even their ancestors are from there. Lapps have been living in Fennoscandia for thousands of years. And if "Ugro" means the (eastern) "ugric" branch of Fenno-Ugric languages, it still makes no sense. None of the Fenno-ugric speakers lives in any part of Siberia. (It is a wider language family, the Uralic languages, who has a group of speakers (Samoyeds) in Siberia.) It makes no sense to claim that a type historically used by people who are not located in Siberia is "west siberian type". 193.65.112.51 16:19, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So are the first indications of the existence of skis 5000 or 8000 years old? Junglehungry (talk) 19:06, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the Holmenkollen Ski Museum recent investigations and C14 analyses have pushed the evidence of skis back from 5000 to 8000 BCE, but I have so far only seen their article  (in Norwegian) and no primary reference. Gabriel Kielland (talk) 14:59, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Any news on this? The article still contradicts itself! Junglehungry (talk) 23:13, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ancient types of Skis

message: USSR never invaded Finland, as the their attack was stopped on mentioned time. Also Finland is to Noth-west when looking from Russia (former USSR).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.153.21.120 (talk) 09:08, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sovjet attacked Finland. After the war Finland had to give up territories to Sovjet, no held by Russia. --Erik den yngre (talk) 14:08, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  In late 1939, the USSR invades its small north-eastern neighbor Finland 

message: Hi, thanks for adding more entries to the timeline. This article already has a "refimprove" on it, but we are seeing the unreferenced content increase rather than decrease. New unreferenced content is being added, much of it statements judgement, which are in particular need of backing up. For example "Salomon releases the Salomon SX91, beginning a decade-long run of rear-entry ski boots being the equipment to beat ... Salomon introduces the first successful Twin-tip ski. This eventually leads to a revival of skiing's popularity in comparison with snowboarding." I take it in good faith that this is all true, but it needs refs. Could the editors who just added this provide some verification? --Cornellier (talk) 22:18, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations needed

message: Why is there a picture of a snowshoe race flier listed as a ski race? Doesn't seem appropriate.Mrhyak (talk) 15:12, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I did not place that graphic, which is definitely a candidate for deletion, but I believe the idea is that in "ye olden days" the word "snow shoe" was sometimes used to mean "ski". That would have to be cited to make sense, of course. --Cornellier (talk) 16:10, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Snowshoe race?

message: Sombody deleted this from intro: "Although modern skiing has evolved from beginnings in Scandinavia, it may have been practised as early as 600 BC in Daxing'anling, in what is now China." That is OK for me, but should the point be reinserted somewhere or is the source not reliable? --Erik den yngre (talk) 08:56, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It should stay with a cleaned-up reference. See also: these images and from Xinhua. User:HopsonRoad 13:44, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  China 

message: I can't find: Saur, Lasse (1999): Norske ski - til glede og besvær. Research report, Høgskolen i Finnmark. Can anyone provide a link to it for other editors to inspect? It is used as a citation several times in this article, yet is hard to verify without the ability to inspect it. Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 15:45, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Reliable even if not online. Available in Norway http://www.nb.no/nbsok/nb/a56196fbc94425a5d1935e06ddd53b46?index=1#0 --— Erik Jr. 19:42, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I have access to more scholarly sources on the topic, will inspect later to verify Saur's claim. Please remind me later. --— Erik Jr. 19:54, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Erik Jr.: Unfortunately, I can't see the source material at the link that you provided. Can you possibly send me a PDF to (deleted)@gmail.com? It's not just whether it's reliable, it's whether it's verifiable by another English-speaking editor. User:HopsonRoad 00:59, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, it is online at the national library only, not available as a PDF. --— Erik Jr. 10:38, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable source 

message: A new movie tried to recreate skiing 12th century style, trailer for those interested in the history of skiing. Not intended as commercial. --— Erik Jr. 16:31, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting, but not very authentic-looking skis. They look distinctly modern with camber, side-cut and plastic bases. Exciting action, though! I haven't seen a good ski chase, since James Bond. User:HopsonRoad 03:51, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure how authentic, there has been some criticisme from historians that the producer has taken some liberties with historical facts. I have too read up and see what kind of skis the Vikings actually used. I can also recommend Heros of Telemark for some good skiing action. --— Erik Jr. 10:36, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: At least, they were using a single pole. User:HopsonRoad 15:10, 14 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Birkebeiner" - movie 

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message: :I had noticed the article is mostly heavily focused on Scandinavia, which is one of the likely possible origins of skiiing  but few mention of Ski Hunting or other possible historic skiing regions. However Tuvan people in the Siberian parts, also had a very rich ancient skiing culture for at least 4 thousand years and used skiing to primarily hunt big game. Even to this day, they still use traditional ski technology to hunt elk as they have done continously for the past millennials. Is it noteworthy to include the ancient ski hunting culture of Tuvan people in the Altai mountains in this article? They have an interesting way to catch elk using skis and been doing that possibly back to 5 thousand years ago. Which looks to have been the early historic human use for skis - (hunting big game). 49.179.85.159 (talk) 01:42, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancient Ski Hunting 

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