Talk:Internet service provider

message: There is a discussion going on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2006_March_17#Internet_providers_standardization to settle the "in country" / "of country" nomenclature.  The discussion is a CFD, so it should run for 7 days from the timestamp on this message. --Syrthiss 20:32, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categorization discussion notice 

message: The article says that "while the DMCA is generally seen as fair and balanced..." Who says the DMCA is fair/balanced? I don't. In fact, I'm not even sure most people do. This really needs to be backed up.--Frenchman113 20:09, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  DMCA 

message: Unless there are objections, I intend to rewrite large portions of this article, and go into far more detail.  What I'll be trying not to do is to replicate too much content from other articles dealing with specific access methods like DSL or dial-up, or fill the article with inpenetrable jargon.  However, if the Internet was an entirely new concept to me, and I read this article in its current state, I would have little idea as to the whats, hows, and whys of ISPs. Thedangerouskitchen 14:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite 

message: Looks like this page has been wrecked somewhat with duplicate sections and comments in headlines. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.171.129.10 (talk) 16:43, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: I find that the term ISP can have two meanings. One use, as suggested by this article, is general, referring to any company providing Internet access, either broadband or dialup (i.e. narrowband.) The other use I see a lot in business articles and in companies' SEC filings is more specific. In this second connotation, ISP seems to define a specific business model that precludes ownership of the physical distribution infrastructure, such cable systems or phone wires. Examples of companies that fall under this second definition are Earthlink, AOL and M$, who generally do not own local access lines, as opposed to cable operators or phone companies who do.
In summary, even though logically, and as implied in this article, cable operators and phone companies could all be called Internet service providers, yet in business literature, I almost never see the term ISP applied to broadband service providers. If somebody who has more knowledge could comment on what seems to me dual uses of the term, it would certainly be welcome. I am sure I am not the only one wondering this. Thanks in advance. Staretz 22:15, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My understanding is that if the company provides IP routing services such as peering or transit, then they qualify as an ISP, regardless of what they might do above (eg: web or email hosting) or below (ATM switching, DOCSIS cable networking, local loop for the PSTN, etc) the IP layer.  This role as an ISP may be secondary to other roles such as those you mention, and less a part of the company's identity as perceived by the general public.  However, if there's something definitive we can put in the article about what is or is not called an "ISP" in certain contexts, then I think it's worth including. Thedangerouskitchen 23:43, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broadband vs. narrowband 

message: Are internet cafes virtual Internet Service Providers or just plain Internet Service Providers? I've seen it is included in the category internet service providers, but I'm not sure if that is right. --85.74.174.141 10:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internet Cafes 

message: Can someone add in the history of ISPs? When was the term originated? What was the first? How did they evolve from, say, Arpanet into the private sector? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Movieresearch (talk • contribs) 02:38, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Remember the AOL discs? I was involved in a kind of garage sale organised by nuns and they put one of those free AOL CDs up for sale 92.0.138.3 (talk) 13:01, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of ISPs 

message: Can someone add a list of business and residential ISPs  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.69.179.196 (talk) 21:34, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of ISPs  

message: Certainly there is a large amount of trust involved with one's ISP.
Else a packet sniffer inside it could reap millions... Please add
a section about this. Jidanni (talk) 11:14, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trust 

message: Cab anyone write which company is the biggest ISP in the contry?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.61.198 (talk) 02:35, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's the biggeest ISP? 

message: Please specify precise details as I am fed up with insufficient bandwidth speed  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.228.73.121 (talk) 23:55, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How do I establish my own ISP? 

message: How? Can anyone answer?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.1.146.100 (talk) 01:33, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to connect ISP to the internet? 

message: This article is in dire need of a rewrite. Any volunteers? Shovon (talk) 16:57, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite 

message: i want to know about internet service provider — Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.24.16.1 (talk) 16:36, 15 February 2010
: Welcome to Wikipedia.  Do you see a link "Article" at the top of the page?  Follow that and it will take you to the information. -- Smjg (talk) 11:13, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  internet service provider 

message: * http://scholar.google.com.au/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+service+provider+ISO&btnG=Search&as_sdt=2000&as_ylo=&as_vis=0
--222.67.211.10 (talk) 09:44, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I see absolutely no relationship between Electronic medical record and this article, please explain. --Kgfleischmann (talk) 06:46, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info about the standardization of ISP.... 

message: and I leave it for ISO 690 panelles to fix it up
--222.64.223.117 (talk) 01:08, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference section need to be closely examined..... 

message: This article is so vague, it barely tells you how an ISP works and what they actually do in order to activate the internet for a persons home. I would very much like this article to be expanded.The Unbeholden (talk) 04:04, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: How ISP's work, and what they do exactly

message: In the opening paragraph we see the word 'tubes' used which links to the article about the senator who used the term. Is tubes now a standard internet term such that it should be in the opening paragraph for the ISP entry? If so, why not link to an article explaining what tubes means technically? And if not, then why is the link here?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.146.233.65 (talk) 08:27, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably a joke, so was removed. W Nowicki (talk) 17:41, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: tubes?

message: Can a VoIPP or a SIP provider be classified as an ISP?  A VoIP or SIP is an internet service, and the provider of such service is, obviously, a provider.  Doesn't it follow that a VoIPP is an ISP?  In the interest of strict categorisation and in the absence of a VoIPP category, wouldn't it be better to classify VoIPPs as being an "ISP", instead of some other incomplete "I", "S" and "P" combination?  Any thoughts?  MureninC (talk) 07:00, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The phrase means someone who provides "internet" as a service, not someone who provides a service using the internet (which is pretty much anyone these days). -Jason A. Quest (talk) 13:20, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about non-internet-access ISPs? Couldn't providers of internet services be classified as ISPs? 

message: what is DSL  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.120.194.114 (talk) 08:02, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  DSL 

message: An anonymous user just rewrote the entire article, removing all the references and some content, without any edit summary. The tag about needing references was removed too, which is just incorrect. Normally the reaction to this to revert first and ask questions later. The references were not very good, and some of the changes to the article were improvements, but some were not. For example, the Internet refers to one specific one, so is capitalized as per English rules for proper nouns. Unless there is a discussion, maybe we should do a wholesale revert and then work to merge in some of the improvements. But removing all the discussion about peering and tiers without comment does not follow guidelines. W Nowicki (talk) 17:41, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Wholesale removal of references?

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: There are different service grades or levels of ISP:s. I think that this should be addressed here, by linking to Carrier Grade NAT(RFC 6598), NAT (with RFC 1819) and IPv6.
The increased problem with Carrier Grade NAT(CGN) compared to the problems with ordinary NAT. And ISP:s that doesn't proved full Internet connection by use NAT to deliver IPv4 connection, and not including IPv6 which provide full Internet connection.
I think we need to make people aware about this.
~Andjack (talk) 14:17, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about Carrier Grade ISP and IPv6 ISP