Talk:Kudzu

message: In the book How to Grow World Record Tomatoes by Charles H. Wilber, he states that kudzu is rich in minerals with a 26% protein content. He also goes on to say that it improves the harshest clay soils by making them into "rich crumbly, brown soil." It also helps a soil breathe by carrying nitrogen and oxygen down into the soil and thus bringing the lime complex of the soil up. (pg. 26) He uses both shredded green kudzu and hay consisting of kudzu in great quantities in his compost. (pg. 27) His results have been amazing, i.e. world record tomatoes (27 foot tall cherry tomato plants and in 1987 1,368 lb tomatoes on 4 plants.).
I find this information very interesting and would like to add at least some of it to the page. What do you all think?Saritamackita 21:55, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Kudzu as compost

message: IP: I see what you mean about the metric units (Wikipedia:Manual of Style (dates and numbers)) so I won't revert your changes, it's just I don't like it that you call it euro imperialism when I'm American. Wikiacc 14:36, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Units of measurement

message: Since an article about the Kudzu comic strip already exists here, a disambiguation page might be useful. ISNorden 23:17, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential ambiguity problem 

message: On the talk page for the "Disambig" template, I have asked permission to move this article to "Kudzu (plant)". The "What links here" list, though, looks so long that a new location would disrupt the whole Wiki. Would an "other uses" note be enough to clarify the situation without breaking links? --Ingeborg S. Nordén 15:54, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, for one thing, Template talk:Disambig was the wrong place to ask this question. That page is for discussing the  template. For another thing, it doesn't matter that a lot of pages link here, it can still be moved, that's what redirect pages are for. But finally, why do you think it should be moved in the first place? The only other meaning I can find is Kudzu (comic strip), and the plant definitely gets priority because it's the original and most common meaning. —Keenan Pepper 16:45, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that's the only other use of the word that I know of. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:36, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, Nihonjoe; you beat me to that edit. Sorry to ask on the wrong page to begin with; I'm relatively new here and sometimes get confused about which template to use when. :-) --Ingeborg S. Nordén 22:28, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem. If you have any other questions, feel free to post them on my Talk page. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 22:33, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I just reread my comment and now it seems really harsh. I need to remember not to bite the newbies. Sorry! —Keenan Pepper 22:39, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ambiguity redux 

message: I have a question about KUDZU. What is the sugar/carbohydrate content? How does that compare with corn? The reason for this question is simple if the sugar content is high enough it can be used for ethanol production! Could it be that I have stumbled on a viable use for this pest at last?65.4.163.122 23:23, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are occasional reports of people investigating the conversion of kudzu into ethanol. An NPR report aired on February 2007 about a high school student who did this as a science fair project. An audio report and photographs are available. However, although kudzu grows fast, the amount of biomass per acre is not all that great: On flat ground, there isn't much plant material under all that green foliage. Kudzu is all surface area (to collect sunlight), but not much volume (compared with corn). Lou 18:31, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  KUDZU question/use 

message: I've revised the kudzu article to remove the statement that it has rhizomes (underground stems), because it does not. All kudzu vines grow from crowns located above ground. I've also made clear that it is not necessary to dig up kudzu roots to kill the plant. It is only necessary to remove the crown, which is done very easily by hand with a pruning saw. A photograph illustrates this method. More details on this and other methods for controling or eliminating kudzu without using chemicals can be found at KOKudzu.com, where I am webmaster. This is the website of the all-volunteer organization The Coalition to Control Kudzu Without Chemicals located in Spartanburg, South Carolina. Lou 18:50, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Very nice to see someone knowledgeable paying attention to this part of the page. Do include references to the Fire Effects Information System, journal articles, and other sources, rather than just your own website, as feasible. That's especially true if other (uninformed) sources say something to the contrary, like about the rhizomes. But like I said, thanks for improving this article. Kingdon 12:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, "rather safe to humans" isn't good enough, but in any case the citation was a broken link and I've removed it. I suspect the "combined with" other methods such as grazing was simply bad writing, when "used after" is what the text should have said. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 10:54, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kudzu Control and Elimination 

message: Regarding this edit. Per Google's calculator -
* 20–30 m = 66-98
** 20m=65.6167979 feet approx 66 
** 30 meters = 98.4251969 feet approx 98
* 10–20 cm = 4-8 in
** 10 centimeters = 3.93700787 inches approx 4 
** 20 centimeters = 7.87401575 inches approx 8
* 10–25 cm = 4-10 in
** 10 centimeters = 3.93700787 inches approx 4 
** 25 centimeters = 9.84251969 inches approx 10 
* 30 cm = 12 in (not 1 ft, we must maintain consistency throughout the article)
** 30 centimeters = 11.8110236 inches approx 12 in 
* 12 ft = 3.7 m
** 12 feet = 3.6576 meters approx 3.7 
* 180 kg = 400 lb
** 180 kilograms = 396.832072 pounds approx 397 approx 400 
* 27 degrees celsius = 81 degrees fahrenheit (This is in fact the only correction to be made on the page regarding the numerical values)
** 27 degrees Celsius = 80.6 degrees Fahrenheit approx 81 
To me, what this means is pretty clear. The well meaning anon IP who tried to correct the numbers deserves an apology, not the rebuke put on zir talk page - User talk:72.24.189.30. I am only commenting about the changes in the numerical values, not anything else done by said IP. Whatever other changes the IP has removed, by all means fix em back (if they have to be), however I still find it a little hard to believe per this that the The strong fragrance is very similar to grape soda pop. If indeed this is true, it should have a reference in tow as well the neccessary description of what exactly grape soda pop smells like.
Regards,xC | ☎  14:31, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conversions 

message: The article is fairly well cited, but there were no full citations for any of the references anywhere in the article. So, I'm converting them all to fully-cited footnotes instead of plain external links. I've done about half the article, the only section left is "Kudzu as an invasive species" which I'll do later today. --Darkwind (talk) 19:34, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --Darkwind (talk) 21:02, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: google on "kudzu jelly" gets 85,000 hits - looks like there's some useful sources in the result Tedickey (talk) 10:47, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: I was looking at the Hangover article in Wikipedia, and it listed cures and "ineffective" cures. Kudzu was listed as being ineffective, with references. However, it noted the Kudzu had other uses so I navigated to this article.
Lo and behold, this article states, contrary to the hangover article, that studies have shown Kudzu as effective against hangovers. It also has references. Which one is right? 99.240.217.191 (talk) 19:56, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think kudzu is used more for curbing cravings by alcoholics (preventative use) as opposed to relieving hangovers (corrective use). I don't know enough about studies (even if any were done) to conclusively state that the hangover part of this article should be removed and just refer to preventative uses. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.67.28.35 (talk) 14:34, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I just did a search in both the American Journal of Medicine and the American Journal of Epidemiology, and the word "kudzu" does not appear even once in either journal. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.215.115.31 (talk) 16:40, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

text:  If as referred to in this section, Kudzu contains the isoflavones daidzein, daidzin, its value as a hangover cure would be related to its upregulation of superoxide dismutase via estrogen receptor site beta. Phytochemistry. 2014 Feb;98:164-73. doi: 10.1016/j.phytochem.2013.11.019. Epub 2013 Dec 19.PMID: 24361291 ;Robb EL, Stuart JA.
Phytother Res. 2014 Jan;28(1):120-31. doi: 10.1002/ptr.4970. Epub 2013 Mar 21. 108.38.82.175 (talk) 07:18, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kudzu cures hangovers or doesn't? 

message: Seeing that there is already a photo showing the flower (the one with the butterfly), perhaps another can be used in the info box that depicts the actual plant? Also, to better demonstrate the invasive nature, perhaps one showing it overtaking a house, bridge, telephone pole would be helpful. SteveCoppock (talk) 17:53, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Another photo

message: The information on this page is really outdated. I live on Long Island, in New York, and there's Kudzu here too. The article states the northmost it's been found is in New Jersey. Obviously, that source and the graph provided are incorrect. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Forest guy (talk • contribs) 04:34, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outdated/Incorrect Information 

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thread_title: [[WP:FOOD|WikiProject Food and drink]] Tagging

message: How can you grow it on purpose? It's illegal to sell it or buy it, i think, but How can you grow it on purpose?
--24.181.200.178 (talk) 22:44, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grow Kudzu 

message: Here's somethings that I think the article should cover that I don't know enough about kudzu to add myself
* What Kudzu is like in Japan/China. It's native to that area but the entire article talks almost exclusively about the US.
** Where does it grow?
** How successful is it?
** What eats it?
** Is it used in farming there?
* The effects of Kudzu - Why is it a problem? Does it kill other plants? Trees? Drive out wildlife? All of the above?
* Better lead - the introduction doesn't really reflect the article contents.
Lot 49atalk 06:02, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing info suggestions 

message: Okay, the article doesn't really mention this, and it should. If the plant is destructive, then how is it destructive? I grew up in North Carolina, so I know it grows on telephone poles, and of course it obviously outcompetes the native flora for resources. Do the roots cause damage to roads? How exactly is it destructive? Thanks. --66.188.84.217 (talk) 02:15, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Destructive How? 

message: As many of you noted above; this article is some-what sparse in information, it needs to be updated, and is missing a bunch of references. Check out my page on Kudz improvements here. Please stop by and take a look - I need input; I want to make this a really good article! It's a great subject! NoFlyingCars (talk) 07:09, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for looking over these things; great to see someone with time/interest to work on this article. The dead-link references to websites can probably be replaced with better references (see WP:DEADREF for more discussion; in this case I suspect there was nothing particularly special about citing those websites rather than the many other sources which are presumably out there). Probably where I'd start, especially for medical issues, is a google search on "kudzu site:nih.gov" (seems to show a lot of pubmed and pubmedcentral hits). Something like "Pueraria -mirifica site:nih.gov" might also be helpful (although searching on the scientific name is somewhat complicated by the taxonomic issues with this species, mentioned in the article). FEIS is good for some of the ecology. PIER is good for its introduced range in the Pacific. Does that help you get started? If you have more questions, feel free to ask (here, or my talk page, or WT:PLANTS). Kingdon (talk) 15:15, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-vamp needed 

message: this article lacks actual information on how the plant is damaging to ecosystems. It obviously implies it, but it doesn't explain the exact nature of this damage. --86.155.162.26 (talk) 01:25, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs info on exact nature of environmental damage 

message: The article does not mention traditional uses by the Khmu, the indigenous people of Northern Laos. These uses are significant because they have been fundamental to the survival of Khmu culture for thousands of years. The thin white ribbon inside the stem of Puerana lobata (commonly called "tropical kudzu"} today continues to be used to tie the umbilical cord of village-born babies and to make rugged carry bags that have many applications, the most important of which has been to gather subsistence food, medicine and fiber essentials in remote mountainside forests. Until recent years the cord also was used to make fish nets. Images of Khmu opening the stem, removing the fiber, drying it in the sun and then transforming it into strong durable cord are included in several videos available on YouTube (search "Khmu bag"). Other than from my personal observations and experiences and those communicated to me by Professor Damrong Tayanin (Khmu name Kam Raw) of the Department of Linguistics and Phonetics of Lund University in Sweden, who grew up in a Khmu village (see http://person.sol.lu.se/DamrongTayanin/kammu.html), there appears to be very little written reference material. I am the principal sponsor of a poverty reduction project targeting the Khmu, and that is why I know of these uses. It also is why I cannot edit the article (COA). NatureBag (talk) 00:07, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  needs addition in uses section 

message: * http://www.tzagri.gov.cn/pindao/zhongzhi/yaocai/article/zhongyaogegen.htm
* http://branch.gdpu.edu.cn/xuebao/xb075PDF/06%E6%9D%8E%E5%9D%B7%E5%B9%B3.pdf
--222.64.18.248 (talk) 06:15, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Chinese translation of the plant is based on the following.... 

message: * http://www.itis.gov/servlet/SingleRpt/SingleRpt?search_topic=Scientific_Name&search_kingdom=every&search_span=exactly_for&categories=All&source=html&search_credRating=All&search_value=Pueraria%20lobata
--222.64.18.248 (talk) 06:28, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info about T&N...any more official info for verification...in addition to the following...??? 

message: I've noticed a handful of redundant information that seems like a waste of time and space.
"In Vietnam, it is called sắn dây." - is a perfect example of this. What viable purpose does this sentence serve? Should there be any particular individual who would be interested in knowing the name of the plant in Vietnamese (what are the odds of there being such a person? One in 99k?) he would be wise to consult a dictionary.
I suppose I could just as easily be in the dark and my reasoning could be fallacious, which is why I'm not taking an initiative in deleting the said sentence, if this is the case please tell me.
Regards, Agon (talk) 18:46, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundancy 

message: In Korea (as well as in China), it is used as a remedy for hang-overs. Unfortunately, I only know this by observation, so it can't be added unless some-one else has a viable source for this common-place in Korea. Kdammers (talk) 06:11, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If as referred to in this section, Kudzu contains the isoflavones daidzein, daidzin, its value as a hangover cure would be related to its upregulation of superoxide dismutase via estrogen receptor site beta. Phytochemistry. 2014 Feb;98:164-73. doi: 10.1016/j.phytochem.2013.11.019. Epub 2013 Dec 19.PMID: 24361291 ;Robb EL, Stuart JA.; Phytother Res. 2014 Jan;28(1):120-31. doi: 10.1002/ptr.4970. Epub 2013 Mar 21. 108.38.82.175 (talk) 07:26, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hang-overs 

message: The article doesn't give any explanation as to what harm kudzu can cause to other plants. Reading this article, which tells of efforts to get rid of it, one has no idea why one would want to get rid of it. 74.178.230.234 (talk) 06:06, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Changes made. See what you think. Nadiatalent (talk) 13:18, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! That was well done! 74.178.230.234 (talk) 05:06, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harm section 

message: An edit war is documented at User talk:Mikeblas concerning this image. It has been removed from this article with the claim that it is unreferenced and self-promotional material, and that there's no way to substantiate that the basket was made from kudzu. Nadiatalent (talk) 17:43, 27 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit war over Kudzu basket 

message: The first sentence of the article states that “Kudzu is misunderstood.” While this may or may not be the case, it seems odd that the reader would be told that the plant has problems with its PR before even being told what it is.
Also, if a weed is a plant in an undesired place, and so refers to human sentiment, as opposed to some more official classification, then to simply refer to Kudzu everywhere as a weed would be inaccurate. I'm suppose that saying that Kudzu is thought of as a weed in many countries in which it problematic would be better. But then, that's my opinion!
Tomásdearg92 (talk) 01:53, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Modified the weed bit -- hopefully for the better... Vsmith (talk) 14:07, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I'm new-ish so the last thing I'd want is to be seen to be nitpicking! Tomásdearg92 (talk) 03:32, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing Introductory Paragraph 

message: I found an interesting study, might be valuable to use the information in this article:
* Invasive kudzu drives carbon out of the soil, into the atmosphere, 16 July 2014, Malcolm Campbell, Ars Technica
—  Ark25  (talk) 23:54, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it is interesting, but I'd be cautious about regarding arstechnica as a reliable source for the subject matter - this page shows that it's a publication primarily concerned with writing about technology, not plants or ecology. An example of what could be called unreliability are the sentences in the article that, after stating that kudzu invasion causes the release of carbon equivalent to "the annual carbon footprint for a city of 1 million", go on to state that "The release of this amount of carbon into the atmosphere could itself contribute to global warming. This could create a feedback effect, as elevated temperature would enable kudzu to extend its range to more northern latitudes." This appears to be somewhat careless editorialising - I personally wouldn't consider that the additional carbon footprint of the equivalent of just 1 million people would in any way be sufficient to be responsible for creating a feedback effect on sufficient scale to allow an extension of kudzu's range, which is what those sentences state. Looking at  the abstract of the original paper on which the article is based, it doesn't appear to make such a claim. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 07:33, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kudzu and the greenhouse effect 

message: Correct WP attribution requires the specific attribution of all material taken fro man outside source, including public domain sources. The matte from the US govt. sources must therefore be indicated, buy quotation marks or otherwise.  DGG ( talk ) 21:55, 28 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: attribution

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: These four articles overlap with one another to some degree and it confuses readers.
I have some suggestions:
# East Asian food and traditional medicine-related content should be located at Pueraria montana var. lobata.
# Botanical information should be located at Pueraria.
# Content on kudzu as a group of invasive plants in the United states should be moved to Kudzu in the United States.
# Kudzu as a group of invasive plants in general should be dealt at Pueraria article's "Invasive species" subsection. A section hatnote like "Further information: Kudzu in the United States" may be appropriate.
--Comedora (talk) 06:37, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It has been a while since I edited any of these articles, but the above seems to be well thought out. Pueraria isn't a very big genus, so it would be practical to put some of the material in that article, as suggested. Kingdon (talk) 01:07, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  I hope this article is merged with P. var. lobata. --Now wiki (talk) 22:45, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Kudzu]], [[Kudzu in the United States|Kudzu in the US]], ''[[Pueraria]]'', and [[Pueraria montana var. lobata|''P.'' var. ''lobata'']] 

message: Per WP:RFFL - do we need a redirect for a foreign language translation of kudzu? --Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) 17:46, 6 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess the redirect should be deleted. For one thing, its existence seems to just further complicate questions such as what should be on this page and what should be on pages like Pueraria_montana_var._lobata Kingdon (talk) 03:58, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

text: The redirect still exists - have we reached a consensus on this issue? HaapsaluYT (talk) 17:45, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "'葛' redirects here" 

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