Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Sumo

message: I'm starting to do an article on Takerufuji in one of my sandboxes. Has anyone already created a draft article on him? - OtharLuin (talk) 09:30, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: On that note, the article is now in the main space :) - OtharLuin (talk) 15:22, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Great! Actually a little surprised that he didn't have an article in the works. Pawnkingthree (talk) 15:37, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the kind of thing that happens when a prodigy jumps a whole division in one tournament :D - OtharLuin (talk) 16:26, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Takerufuji 

message: I'm thinking about this project I had about WP:SUMO conventions after  added some yesterday. Since I've been here, I've seen that  and I have slightly different presentation conventions, or even that  also had his own interpretation on the standardization of infoboxes. I'm not even talking about the hazardous assessment ranking
Do you think it would be a good idea for us to discuss the WP conventions in a little more detail on the talk page of Wikipedia:WikiProject Sumo/Conventions? This could take the form of a question on the subjects already mentioned and voting 'support' or 'oppose' or adding another idea, as is already done for front page nomination processes? 
Adding the most active members to this discussion : , , , , 
I think it's quite reasonable to reach a consensus even before the May tournament. - OtharLuin (talk) 09:00, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Perfectly happy to have such a discussion, I think's been about 15 years since we had one :) Would suggest leaving a notification here though once it starts, as I doubt many people watch that page. -- Pawnkingthree (talk) 13:55, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I meant to add a response here... I put two suggestions out to the talk page yesterday. JRHorse (talk) 12:07, 19 April 2024 (UTC)

text: I honestly don't know, there's around six frequent users at WP:SUMO but only half of them participated, myself included. I think it's a good basis for a convention though - OtharLuin (talk) 13:39, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP:SUMO conventions 

message: I also posted on the respective talk page but.. Kotonowaka's ring name is now Kotozakura Masakatsu. Just wanted to confirm before I move the page that the name of the article should now be Kotozakura Masakatsu II. JRHorse (talk) 21:57, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Continuing the discussion over on that talk page since a thought came up. JRHorse (talk) 04:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kotozakura Masakatsu II 

message: Hello everyone, it's now mid-2024 and I've come up with the idea of reworking the article on the Japan Sumo Association because the association's centenary is fast approaching = its first official version, the All Japan Sumo Association, was founded in 1925 (on 9 December according to the Japanese article). 
I've started to simplify/clarify the article on my sandbox but I'd like a bit of help, particularly to improve text quotation. The Japanese article isn't much help, and I'm coming to the end of the WP bibliography to complete the rest of the work. Even if we have the time, it would be good if it was a group project, especially so that it could be mentioned in WP:OTD. - OtharLuin (talk) 13:47, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japan Sumo Association rework 

message: Ping to @OtharLuin, @ArguaBILL and others, I've drafted an article on the new Nakamura stable. JRHorse (talk) 23:03, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Very good start; I almost feel it's ready for publication already. ArguaBILL (talk) 10:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)

text: Hello JR, very solid start. I'll see if I can add some articles on the early rumors of the Nakamura break off. I think there was a Nikkan Sports article on that at the moment of a talk show event at the JSA. - OtharLuin (talk) 10:23, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Should there be a disambig page for both Nakamura articles? JRHorse (talk) 10:54, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I think so; the Japanese Wikipedia article contains information on both the active and the defunct stables, something which is sometimes done when article subjects share the exact same name down to the exact kanji used. ArguaBILL (talk) 15:14, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I know they do that on ja.wiki, but the two stables are entirely separate lineages with no connection to each other. We should keep them as separate articles. Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:14, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, merging both incarnations would be against every norms I know in descriptive standards - OtharLuin (talk) 16:10, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

text: Just following up on this to see what are the next steps? JRHorse (talk) 11:30, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nakamura stable (2024) 

message: Did you guys see the flag on the Ōnosato Daiki article? Someone flagged it for non-english citations. JRHorse (talk) 00:42, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on the edit summary of a similar edit that editor made I think they did so because they expect the citations to include an English translation of their titles via the "trans-title" parameter. However, the wording at Help:Citation_Style_1#Titles_and_chapters suggests to me that doing so is optional. I also do not think Template:Not English is meant to be used for that in the first place. So if no one wants to add translations, I see no problem in just removing the template from the page. Xfansd (talk) 01:46, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I'd be willing to address the concerns as best I can unless there's consensus otherwise? Also will ping @ArguaBILL @OtharLuin @Pawnkingthree. JRHorse (talk) 13:45, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I usually try to add an English translation of the title of the reference, but I agree with Xfansd that I don't think it's mandatory. That header suggests the article could be put up for AfD in two weeks if it's not addressed? Never heard of that, and I don't see how it could be a valid reason for deletion. Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:12, 4 June 2024 (UTC)

text: Support. This is the best course of action and the template addition seems very abusive to me - OtharLuin (talk) 16:06, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry do you refer to removing the template, or adding the translations? JRHorse (talk) 18:07, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: No no removing the template. - OtharLuin (talk) 19:59, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I think this is a consensus so will remove the template. JRHorse (talk) 23:28, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag on Ōnosato Daiki