Talk:Patapan

message: There is a blog that contains a good comparison with the Modern French and Burgundian versions  as well as MP3 audio. Kirkpasf 03:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Post the link on the main page? --74.133.247.2 00:01, 15 December 2006 (UTC)

message: What the hell, people? Put the lyrics back in the proper format instead of a paragraph, and put down multiple versions if you want, but at least make it presentable.--CaesarGJ (talk) 05:46, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The melody is one that is based on the natural minor, also known as the Aeolian mode; something that is typically unusual for Christmas carols, as most are in a brighter, more upbeat sounding, major key. Other notable Christmas songs in minor keys include Carol of the Bells and God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen.
The tune is not in the natural minor (Aeolian mode), but in the 'ordinary' harmonic minor: all melodic occurences of the seventh are sharpened. I also dispute the assertion that minor keys (of any sort) are unusual for Christmas carols. They may be less common among the kind of Christmas carols and hymns routinely sung congregationally at carol services in English-speaking, Western countries from the mid-twentieth century onwards, but the Oxford Book of Carols (OUP, London, 1928) contains a multitude of carols in minor keys and in modes with a minor colour (aeolian and dorian).
With these points removed, all that is left is the fact that it is in a minor key, which hardly seems noteworthy enough to mention.  --EphenStephen (talk) 21:51, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Lyrics?

message: The version prior to my edit included the following two sentences which I have removed:
:The melody is one that is based on the natural minor, also known as the Aeolian mode; something that is typically unusual for Christmas carols, as most are in a brighter, more upbeat sounding, major key. Other notable Christmas songs in minor keys include Carol of the Bells and God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen.
The tune is not in the natural minor (Aeolian mode), but in the 'ordinary' harmonic minor: all melodic occurences of the seventh are sharpened. I also dispute the assertion that minor keys (of any sort) are unusual for Christmas carols. They may be less common among the kind of Christmas carols and hymns routinely sung congregationally at carol services in English-speaking, Western countries from the mid-twentieth century onwards, but the Oxford Book of Carols (OUP, London, 1928) contains a multitude of carols in minor keys and in modes with a minor colour (aeolian and dorian).
With these points removed, all that is left is the fact that it is in a minor key, which hardly seems noteworthy enough to mention.  --EphenStephen (talk) 21:51, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Key 

message: I question the usefulness of including information on David Archuleta's recording of this song. Why is it important to know? There are many recordings of this song in many versions, both old and contemporary. What makes Archuleta's recording so special that it warrants mentioning?
This also brings me to question the relevance of including the information on composer John Gerrish. While perhaps interesting, what does this information do to enlighten us on this carol? Again, there are many different arrangements of this carol of which we could mention and provide an mp3 link. So why should we include this?
If there are no objections and good, concrete reasons as to why we should keep these two items in the article, I am inclined to delete them.
B0cean (talk) 18:08, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recordings, other information 

message: Because there were a large number of back-and-forth edits and reversions by anon IPs and a bot, I restored the last clean version by a registered user. To respond to one IP who asked about the removal of three recordings, the song has been recorded probably hundreds of times. It is POV and personal preference to single out three recordings. --Tenebrae (talk) 22:56, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Today's edits

message: Why is the Winsconsin version presented as the "English Rhyming Version"? The other version rhymes too, and is also in English. 2001:8A0:7ACF:DD00:D405:4B1:E1C5:3685 (talk) 18:05, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rhyming version 

message: I can’t think of another carol that has lyrics like “let’s fuck Satan” as shown here in the translations of Burgundian and French. That seems worthy of explanation and context. Interesting that the English version shown omits that verse. Jkdt65 (talk) 01:09, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lyrics re Satan