Talk:Ayra

message: For about one year, I have been campaigning to request to have Ayra to register to be a playable character in the Super Smash Bros. Brawl, eventhough she is a non-Lord.  For one reason is the popularity of the Swordmaster class, which she started.  Her story is quite intriguing enough to have her in Super Smash Bros., and other reason is partially owing to a great fanfic "Burning Behind."  She is an extraordinary Swordmaster character, unlike those Nabarl clones.  I have proven her to fit in well in Super Smash Bros.  The second-generation cast of Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu do not fit in as well as the first-generation cast.  I would love for you to support my request in this situation.  Ayra would be a unique character, unlike Marth, Roy, and Link.  An in-game reason to have her in Super Smash Bros. Brawl is last line of the Jugdral Chronology, where it says "Grandbell invades Isaac."  Another reason for the idea is the use of Ryuuseiken, Ayra's trademark move, in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.  The article also hints the reason why I recommend Ayra to appear in Super Smash Bros. Brawl as an unlockable playable character.  As recruiting Ayra in Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu was worth all the effort, I find developing her as a playable character in Super Smash Bros. Brawl to be worth all the effort.  
===Speculated moves===
====B-button moves====
B Ryuuseiken (Astra) Smash B Odo missile Up B Odo copter Down B Warp Slash
====A-button moves====
First time press A Swing sword forward
Second time press A Slashes around again
Third time press A Circular sword swing
Fourth time press A Slash forward
Fifth time press A Stab forward
Sixth time press A Spin slash hard
Forward Smash Slash five times and spin slash hard sending the opponent flying
I am encouraging every gamer here at Wikimedia and at GameFAQs.com to support my request.  This is an important request, due to the controversy involving divisions of the cast of Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War.  I am really hoping for Ayra to sign up to fight in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.  I am saddened that someone at GameFAQs objects to having her appear in Super Smash Bros. Revolution.
====Trophy description====
The trophy description would be a brief telling of her backstory and would also tell how she got to be playable in SSBB, her role in Nintendo, and would confirm whether Ayra died in or survived the Battle of Barhara.
Tedius Zanarukando 8 May 2005 21:05 (EST).
====Infobox====
If Masahiro Sakurai and Sora Ltd. elect to have Ayra playable in Super Smash Bros. Brawl or its successor, the official artwork would replaced by the Super Smash Bros. series rendition. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 23:16, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ayra to be in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'' 

message: ====B-button moves====
B Ryuuseiken (Astra) Smash B Odo missile Up B Odo copter Down B Warp Slash
====A-button moves====
First time press A Swing sword forward
Second time press A Slashes around again
Third time press A Circular sword swing
Fourth time press A Slash forward
Fifth time press A Stab forward
Sixth time press A Spin slash hard
Forward Smash Slash five times and spin slash hard sending the opponent flying
I am encouraging every gamer here at Wikimedia and at GameFAQs.com to support my request.  This is an important request, due to the controversy involving divisions of the cast of Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War.  I am really hoping for Ayra to sign up to fight in Super Smash Bros. Brawl.  I am saddened that someone at GameFAQs objects to having her appear in Super Smash Bros. Revolution.
====Trophy description====
The trophy description would be a brief telling of her backstory and would also tell how she got to be playable in SSBB, her role in Nintendo, and would confirm whether Ayra died in or survived the Battle of Barhara.
Tedius Zanarukando 8 May 2005 21:05 (EST).
====Infobox====
If Masahiro Sakurai and Sora Ltd. elect to have Ayra playable in Super Smash Bros. Brawl or its successor, the official artwork would replaced by the Super Smash Bros. series rendition. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 23:16, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Speculated moves

message: If Masahiro Sakurai and Sora Ltd. elect to have Ayra playable in Super Smash Bros. Brawl or its successor, the official artwork would replaced by the Super Smash Bros. series rendition. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 23:16, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox

message: First, the Ira/Ayra thing. As much as I don't agree with the spelling Ayra, and would vastly prefer the use of Aira which is the best of both worlds, Wikipedia Policy says to use the most common english name, which is undoubtedly Ayra. Some people seem to have missed that the last time I posted it, so I'll post it again in case they miss the one in the edit link too.
:Historically, I have been using the name Ira in the message boards. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 09:00, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I personally consider Ayra good looking.  Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 09:00, 4 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Information provided in the book Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu: Treasure should be included in the article.  So I put that back in with the rationale that Treasure is not third-party and that the Treasure-related information about Ayra was posted at FESS message board.  Also, I put back some in-game information that Twilkitri deleted from the article.  About Ayra threatening to impale Kinbois on a stick was said in-game. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 02:45, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't recall that stuff being in the Treasure, but I will take your word for it. On the topic of Kinbois' head, I removed that for irrelevancy, but whatever. --Dark Twilkitri 06:26, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  03/03/2006 Major Edit Rationale 

message: I am aware that Zxcvbnm has been responsible for messing up the Fire Emblem sector of Wikipedia, calling some articles as cruft. This article should not be merged with or reduced to a redirect to article List of minor characters in the Fire Emblem series or the game article, for it is six pages long when printed.  This separate character article is created for the character description is too long to fit in that article, and it is not to be considered cruft.  Most of the article is relevant.  If Zxcvbnm turns this article into a redirect, I will get angry at him. I trust Dark Twilkitri, but not Zxcvbnm. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 11:53, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do not merge with other Fire Emblem articles 

message: I am aware that the article may be in need of factual verification.  However, most reliable sources about Ayra are written in Japanese.  You must learn Japanese in order to find reliable sources.  I find the Ayra character to immensely popular as I have seen around the Internet.  Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 15:48, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verification template 

message: According to a debate at Nintendo NSider forums thread "Rate Their Chances", Ayra is the most controversial character suggestion for the upcoming Super Smash Bros. Brawl.  I found that she has good enough significance, but she has been criticized because of the questionable significance of her role in her original game Fire Emblem: Seisen no Keifu, and because of the later Fire Emblem Swordmasters having a bigger role and being more well known. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 22:44, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Super Smash Bros. Brawl controversy 

message: Does anyone think it should be either shortened or merged? --Potato dude42 18:09, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No this article should not be merged.  I object to merging this article.  Most of the information is relevant.  I have already did an extended discussion on this article recently.  That article is not too long, but it was shortened recently in the wake of a debate (removing game-guide content).  Recently, one section was removed from the article because it was game-guide content.  If you are using a widescreen monitor, you will not have to scroll as long.  Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 17:36, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I guess merging would be a bit extreme. However, I still stand by my point that the article at least needs to be shortened due to the fact that its importance is relatively not that great. After all, Ayra is only a minor character in one game. I mean, not only is she not mentioned in the Fire Emblem characters template but the article on her is actually longer than most of the articles for the series' major characters that are mentioned in the template. That just makes no sense at all. --Potato dude42 04:00, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ayra's role is between major and minor.  She is also a historical character.  She is actually that important, partly due to the Isaacian Grandbellian-War and Celice growing up in the Kingdom of Isaac.  She is also arguably the most popular member of Sigurd's army. The Fire Emblem characters template mentions only the Lord characters (with Lilina being the only exception).  The first three sections directly pertain to Ayra.  The "Related Characters" section does not directly pertain to her.  The article on Sigurd and on Celice still needs to be expanded.  Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 23:30, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Whoa, this article is really really long