Talk:The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou

message: I agree with the previous author who brought up Moby dick. There are many references. The red school of fish are like the birds that follow Moby Dick. Ned is a son who dies in the course of the journey. The Reporter is Starbuck. DeFoe is Flask. Its a voyage for revenge against a fish for god's sake!  
why will the distributor section not work?--El Slameron 00:42, Jun 5, 2005 (UTC)
more editing is definitely needed
:It wasn't working because the previous line did not end with a | character.  Went ahead and fixed that. --67.36.24.175 03:47, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  MobyDick 

message: i cant remember the names of the Klaus's nephew (if he is his nephew) or the species of seahorse at the beginning of the film. anyone who can please edit the caption of the new photo in the trivia section. --El Slameron 23:38, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
:It's a rainbow ponyfish.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 07:25, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: His nephew's name is Werner. psimionides   — Preceding undated comment added 14:59, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  seahorse 

message: There`s no critical review of this film. So this article is crearly POV. I will nor write my own POV as i went searching the Wikipedia when i could not believe such great actors acting in a film i could not ¿Understand?.  
- What are you saying? --69.84.100.212 23:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No critical review 

message: I removed the link on the name "Steve Zissou" as it just linked back to the very same article. --Phl3djo 16:04, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundant Link 

message: For some reason, _all_ the wild animals in the movie are computer-generated. I can think of several different motives for this to have been made so, but it strikes me as relevant, and not trivial.
All the wild animals are ficticious species.  Anderson obviously wanted this to have a deliberately unrealistic feel to it.  RossyG 17:19, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The man of war and orca are not fictional species. There are many actual animals in the movie. Although i suppose the orca wasn't wild  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.76.60.163 (talk) 20:10, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relevant? 

message: Whats the song played during the end of the film, its in the scene with the Jaguar shark. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zerath13 (talk • contribs) 
:It is Starálfur from Sigur Rós album Ágætis byrjun. --18 hours 23:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  That one song 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Lifeaquaticposter.jpg

message: :Image:Life aquatic seahorse.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Life aquatic seahorse.jpg

message: Is there any documented evidence of the character's surname coming from the two actresses? There's no apparent connection between these actresses except that they're all British. Explain?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.140.155 (talk) 23:49, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Winslett-Richardson 

message: The filming details are glaringly incorrect to anyone with more than a basic knowledge of firearms. Steve uses a Glock to threaten Jane, and he may have holstered it a few times, but the crew's pistols in the firefight scenes appear to be Beretta 92 models.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.110.3.40 (talk) 00:24, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Guns not Glocks

message: Abusive tagging, the term abusive seems to imply bad faith and where are the sources? Also, the Trivia tags were deleted, thats against Wiki policy I believe.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 13:33, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There, if any of that stuff is true, it can't be much harder to find sources for it than it is to argue with me, and despite not actually being called Trivia, the various "References" sections are displaying Trivia information which is inappropriate. At least I'm not just deleted all of the unsourced original research material :)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.137.207.191 (talk) 13:50, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Abusive Tagging?

message: I removed the following and bring it here for discussion:
* The scene at the end of the movie with Steve walking the red carpet with Klaus's nephew on his shoulders was inspired by Francis Ford Coppola walking with daughter Sofia on his shoulders at the Cannes Film Festival in the late 1970s. The scene is the same down to the white knee socks and black shoes Sofia wore.
* "Zissou" was the nickname of French photographer Jacques Henri Lartigue's older brother. The portrait of Lord Mandrake, Zissou's mentor, is based on a famous photograph of Lartigue, and the photographer (who died in 1986) is even credited as playing the part in the end credits. Wes Anderson also referenced the photographer's work in Rushmore. 
* Although Anderson had made up the main character's unlikely name, it was eventually learned that there is a real Steve Zissou, a trial lawyer in New York. After being contacted by the film's production company, Zissou granted permission for his name to be used in the film, and he is listed in the film's credits.
* The name of Zissou's research ship was the Belafonte. The name is a parody of Jacques-Yves Cousteau's ship the RV Calypso. Harry Belafonte is a famous singer of Calypso music.
* Near the end of 2005, Mikhail Matz, a professor of marine biology at the University of Florida, witnessed and confirmed the fluorescence of the Chain Catshark making it very similar to the fictional "Jaguar Shark" of the movie.
* The character of Zissou's producer, Oseary Drakoulias, is named after two prominent music executives, Guy Oseary and George Drakoulias.
None of this is referenced, and it should not be restored until it is sourced. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 06:02, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real-world references 

message: I removed the following from the article because it is completely unreferenced:
* At one point Steve Zissou and Klaus Daimler are standing outside Jane Winslett-Richardson's cabin door. Steve says "Not this one, Klaus", a little homage to the character of Jules in the Truffaut film Jules et Jim. Jules and Jim have been happily sharing their girlfriends, but when Catherine comes onto the scene, Jules is smitten.
* There is a scene from the documentary in which Bill Murray, Owen Wilson and Cate Blanchett are arranged in a row and are pointing forward, looking straight ahead. This is a reference to an earlier Anderson film, Bottle Rocket, where characters Dignan, Anthony and Bob are arranged as such for the cover.  The shot was also recreated using the three main characters in Anderson's film The Darjeeling Limited.
* Both scenes involving aerial shots of character's feet (in the Hot Air Balloon as well as the shot before the helicopter crashes) are homages to Fellini's 8½.
*The scene during the credits, in which the characters walk along a pier, was inspired by the film The Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai Across the 8th Dimension, which also featured Jeff Goldblum. When the characters board the ship, there is a man wearing a pilot's uniform and smoking a pipe at the top most point of the ship, before the rest of the crew have boarded. This is Ned reappearing for a "curtain call" (per the director's commentary), similar to how a deceased character appears at the end of the Buckaroo Banzai credits.
* When Steve, Ned and Bill (the bond company stooge) are in the elevator leaving Oseary's office, Bill says "I'm also a human being" — possibly a quote from Victor Lazlo in Casablanca.
* In the scene where the whole team has descended using the mini submarine to meet the jaguar shark, the puppet-like animation of the submarine is a possible reference to the Stingray television series.
* The last scene of the movie is a tribute to Satyajit Ray's Apur Sansar.
As no sources are provided, all of this amounts to original research, with editors making their own determinations of Anderson's influences.  This should not be restored unless it is sourced. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 17:14, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Film references 

message: The "literary inspiration" subsection is titled incorrectly.  What is offered there are suppositions from two different critics about similarities between this film and a novel, on the one hand, and another film, on the other.  A section about "literary inspiration," especially as a subsection of the plot, would offer information about works of literature or film that, by his own admission, inspired Anderson in the making of this film.  The information in this section, as it currently exists, should be moved to the critical reception section. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 03:52, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Literary inspiration 

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