Talk:South Sydney Rabbitohs

message: The original page is involved in a copywright dispute so I moved all the material that was not disputed here as it was not fair for other people to have their work deleted.GordyB 11:27, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  older entries 

message: what suburb are they based in? -- Astrokey44|talk 11:45, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The League's Club is in Redfern. They are from and still train at Redfern Oval. Dankru 05:17, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  suburb? 

message: Please see South's 2007 Corporate Partnership Brochure - on page 16 there is a photo of Shane Warne with his own personalised South's jersey, and on page 17 there is a photo of Tom Cruise (wearing a South's scarf) at a South's game with Russell Crowe:
http://www.souths.com.au/sponsors/Brochure_2007.pdf
:How about a list of famous fans in the "Supporters" section. Ray Martin, Mikey Robins, Russell Crowe and Andrew Denton come to mind, and I know there are numerous others.--Jeff79 (talk) 03:37, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous fans 

message: Since the Sydney Roosters article is now featured, I figured I'd go on and help promote another National Rugby League team article to the same position. Given that there was already a lot of information on this page that seemed of good quality, I thought I'd give this one a go. So far I've done quite a bit to consolidate the history section, move around a few other sections and add in an honours section (see history for a summary). If some of you guys, such as Sattlersjaw, can find a few references and put them into the article, I'll help you guys finish this article thoroughly. Cheers, and all the best, mdmanser 08:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for helping to improve this article. I have added some relevant citations and references, a brief section on stats and records, changed some headings and made some other minor edits. Any further suggestions to improve the article are most welcome. It would great if this article can eventually be of a quality to get featured status as well. Sattlersjaw 05:02, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I'll do some more work on the existing sections to give them the same feel as their corresponding ones on the Sydney Roosters page. I'll also expand the records section and hopefully do some more research on the stadium section too. But as you might figure out, my weakness would be locating references relevant to the club (as a Roosters fan I had no trouble doing it on that page). But I have to say, this article won't need much more work to get it to a featured standard compared to other club pages given the amount of work you've already put into it. That'll definitely help speed things up towards promotion. --mdmanser 07:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Overhaul 

message: I don't really know how it works but when is it planned to nominate this article for FA class? I'm not really sure what else can be added. I would say more pictures but it is practically impossible to find any that we have permission to use, let alone remain undeleted as a result of a ruthless interpretation of the Fair Use policy. CumberlandsAshes81 04:41, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure there is a History of Souths book that would be worth looking at. looks a bit thin on the inline refs side of things (not saying that any FA reviewer would resort to inlinerefcoutitis but then again..........) I might hav a look for the book in hte next week or so. cheers,  Casliber | talk  |  contribs 06:18, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Hi Guys, I agree and have made the necessary changes to remove the subheadings and split what was there into separate sections.
Sattlersjaw 22:41, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: FA nomination?

message: Sorry to be a pain but I think this is incorrect: "...in 1998 and a 14-team competition by 2000, South Sydney were the sole club from 15 applicants to be cut from the premiership at the end of the 1999 season."  There were three classes of criteria that clubs needed to meet in order to take one of the 14 licenses: 'basic criteria', 'qualifying criteria' (which provided licenses to the one-team city clubs) and the 'selection criteria' which was applied to the remaining 10 applying clubs. While it is true that Souths were the only team out of the final 10 to miss out on a license based on the 'selection criteria',North Sydney Bears had already been exlcuded based on the first criteria (solvency). This is why when the Northern Eagles folded the license reverted to Manly whose license the Northern Eagles were using. So, it should be '16 applicants' and 'both Souths and Norths being excluded'. CumberlandsAshes81 11:55, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have changed the sentence to refect this better - though the sentence now seems a bit long and clumsy. What do you think? You are welcome to stream-line it so that it reads better.
Sattlersjaw 13:09, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Only club excluded?

message: Copied below the support/oppose comments from that saw the article considered but fail as an FA; posted here since you otherwise have to go to Featured article candidates page to see them Sticks66 13:55, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opposed 5May07 as anFA 

message: * The first British inhabitants had often called the waratah a "red fern" instead, hence giving the suburb its name, and ultimately the local rugby club its emblem. 
Well, no.  The suburb was named after surgeon William Redfern, the first white owner of the land .  Regards, Ben Aveling 11:59, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you'll find that the particular interpretation found in the Redfern Wiki article is only one interpretation of how Redfern was named and hardly the definitive version. As Sean Fagan describes: "The origins of the name 'Redfern' are not entirely clear - some local history points to the name coming from Dr. Readfern (spelt with an 'a') who owned substantial property in the area in the mid-1800s. However, more likely, the first British inhabitants called the waratah, which was prolific in the area, a 'red fern'. In the 1890s the local rugby club played under the name 'Redfern Waratahs'. Articles in Sydney newspapers in the early 1900s make reference to the waratah in comments about the district's cricket and rugby union clubs." I guess some note should be made that the 'red fern' origin is only one possibility and this other version of the origin of 'Redfern' should be in the Redfern Wiki article. CumberlandsAshes81 03:36, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redfern 

message: *I'm going to take some time to read the article and give it a GA Review, in this subsection.  If I don't get to it in 24 hours or so, feel free to message my talk page and remind me.  Cheers!  Smee 08:11, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Review 

message: I am glad to say that this article which was nominated for good article status has succeeded. This is how the article, as of June 16, 2007, compares against the  six good article criteria:
:1. Well written?: Article is well written, and the language and syntax is easily understood.
:2. Factually accurate?: Sourced to an impressive (64) citations, and (12) references in the works cited.
:3. Broad in coverage?: Comprehensive coverage, especially of the History, and Statistics.
:4. Neutral point of view?: Article is worded in NPOV language, however see below for steps towards FA status.
:5. Article stability? Article seems to be bereft of edit-warring, however there is some random anon IP editing in the history, might want to just keep an eye on that, for additions of unsourced material, or removal of sourced material.
:6. Images?: (7) images used in the article.  All appear to be used appropriately, however see below.
If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to a GA review. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status. 
— Smee 04:23, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Successful [[Wikipedia:Good articles|good article]] nomination

message: I have never, ever heard Souths referred to as "The Rabbits", as the opening sentence states. And I've been barracking for them since 1970. Anyone calling them The Rabbits would immediately identify that person as a foreigner and/or someone totally unfamiliar with ARL. I am leaving the opening sentence as is for now, but I'm changing the infobox to say "Rabbitohs". --Jquarry 02:58, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you Google the string <Rabbits "South Sydney" -Wikipedia>  there are hundreds of references, especially in news headlines. Gus Gould sometimes calls them the Rabbits on Ch 9 (when he's not referring to Ray Warren). It may not be used by Souths supporters, but it is used in the media. Rexparry sydney 05:14, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: On that argument you should also include "the Bunnies" as 'also known as'. ~ Florrie • talk • 08:59, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Damn... am I that far out of touch? :-\ JQ (talk) 07:25, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Rabbits?" 

message: Shouldn't the South Side Story documentary get at least a mention somewhere in this or the History article?--Jeff79 (talk) 21:52, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  South Side Story 

message: OK, we now have up to a dozen additions and reversions of the "notable supporter" section in this article. This cannot go on. Can I suggest that before adding it back that some discussion on the talk page takes place. If the edit warring continues, I will fully protect the page until some consensus is agreed upon. Perhaps the views of a third party need to be sought - a request for comment perhaps?
My own personal view (although I don't have strong feelings either way) is that I see little encyclopedic value in a list of every celebrity who happens to support a particular sports team - that to me is the very definition of trivia as defined in the MoS.Where a particualr celebrity has a close and tangible connection to a club (owner, board member etc.) then there may some encyclopedic merit but wouldn't that be better incorporated into the body of the article? 
Regardless of my mild personal aversion to "celebrity" sections in sports teams articles, I am happy to follow a wider consensus but the continued edit warring must stop now. -- Mattinbgn (talk) 02:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, Talk:Sydney Roosters, and the claim that the list of people were pro-reinstatement activists is nonsense as the attached refs didn't say that anyway. Third this is a GA, and isn't supposed to be a joke, same as the Roosters FA. If these people were stakeholders, ambassadors, Shahrukh Khan etc, then they would be in the main prose anyway YellowMonkey  (new photo poll)  05:41, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable supporters 

message: recent edits reverted because they were opinion based and not cited. --RichardMills65 (talk) 06:49, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  recent edits 

message: The emblem section is suggesting continuity with a pre-1908 rugby union club however no connection is made in the history section. Hack (talk) 03:16, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confused - pre-1908 history? 

message: For a Good article this has quite a few tags. Would someone interested be willing to give it a copyedit so it can keep its status? AIRcorn (talk) 06:49, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay did some editing myself. Still some citations needed (mainly for the recent stuff). Is probably a bit short in references in other areas, but I just tagged the ones I deemed most necessary. AIRcorn (talk) 11:22, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA status 

message: Yes, Souths are a foundation club, but the title is fluid and applies to Wests as much as Souths and Easts. Although I wouldn't persue it, technically Parramatta (merger with Cumberland) and St George (Glebe absorption) are foundation clubs as well. That is, by the basis that Souths are. Basically, I think the Souths - Easts only foundation is bull, and shouldn't be heralded in their articles.150.203.190.160 (talk) 10:38, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foundation 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The three former emblems :File:Souths R Logo.jpg, :File:Souths Logo.jpg, and :File:Souths2007 logo.jpg are non-free images and should not be used (i.e., "displayed") in a gallery format per :WP:NFG because such usage tends to be primarily decorative and does not provide the contextual significance required by :WP:NFCC#8. These logos should be incorporated into the text near the relevant sections where they are being discussed and this discussion should reflect what reliable sources say per :WP:NOR. The non-free use rationale for each logo should also be updated to reflect this usage since none of the logos are being used "as the primary means of visual identification at the top of the article dedicated to the entity in question" any longer. -- Marchjuly (talk) 08:41, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emblems 

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message: There has been a long, slow-burning edit war over the inclusion of the statement In addition to winning the most premierships, the Rabbitohs also hold the distinction of being the only club to win a premiership in their inaugural season at the end of the lead which needs resolution.
This comment cannot stand, and especially not in the lead, as it is a misleading/weasel statement. There are two ways for a club to win a premiership in its inaugural season: by winning the inaugural premiership (a relatively mundane achievement which must be achieved by exactly one team in every sports competition), or by winning in its first season as an expansion team (an extremely rare achievement which would be considered highly notable achievement in any sport). The statement in question dishonestly implies an equivalence between these two by bundling them into one statement.
The inclusion of this statement in the same breath as the club's league-leading 21 premierships – which is self-evidently the most important performance achievement any club article could include in its lead – would reasonably mislead readers into believing that the 'inaugural premiership' factoid is an achievement of equal or near-equal importance, which is definitely is not. Aspirex (talk) 07:47, 22 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. They happened to be the first champions of a new league. Not a big deal. One of the teams had to do it. Meters (talk) 20:33, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead comment 

message: Some of the references imply these are supporters (especially the American ones) simply because they wore a piece of Rabbitohs clothing like a cap. Surely a real supporter would actually have been to a game. I think that's the minimum to be considered a "supporter". LibStar (talk) 23:25, 8 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable supporters