Talk:32nd G8 summit

message: Actually, Strelna is not outside St.-Petersburg, it's a Southern part of the city. --213.170.65.38 14:22, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location 

message: I noticed the European Union was moved to the "Invited (partial participation)" section, under the international organizations, since it's not a prmanent member of the G8. I guess I was ambiguous in creating the "Permanent" heading, I meant "permanent participation" at the summit, not "permanent member". The EU has full participation, so it shouldn't be under a section stating partial participation. So, either it can its own, third heading, or it can be put in one of the existing two with a footnote or something. I personally don't like it where it is right now, the other leaders in that section were only involved for one day. Any thoughts? Thanks, --Gabbec 23:33, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: EU

message: Should we put a section in on the "massage" that Bush attempted to give to Chancellor Merkel? I feel as though that is something of note here. Grahamdubya 12:55, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm for it, as long as the focus is on the media reaction to the incident, and only if it was significant. I'm not sure how much coverage that got (though I did see it), but in itself it wouldn't deserve a mention. And "groping" is not the most appropriate description... --Gabbec 14:14, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If Bush tried to feel her up, yes its news. Its called sexual harrasment and something that apparantly Americans frown upon in their leaders. Damburger 14:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course it would be sexual harrassment and a disgrace if he did try to "feel her up", but it doesn't look like he did to me. I think that this president is both incompetent and hypocritical, and doing the "backrub" was really weird and incredibly foolish, but calling it groping is, in my opinion, an exaggeration. So, for me, the reaction of the media, especially from Germany and the US, is more notable than the act itself. --Gabbec 16:47, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've seen it now, and while I wouldn't call it a grope it does look like sexual harassment. Its a relatively intimate way to touch somebody, especially in the circumstances. Damburger 09:55, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Be that as it may, our own opinions of the incident are irrelevant; per WP:V and WP:NPOV, we can only list the arguments and statements of reliable sources, and should not conduct any sort of original research. If there's a controversy, by all means, say "There's a controversy!" and elaborate a bit, but it's not our place to decide what it was or wasn't. Luna Santin 09:57, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Groping

message: Does shit really need to be replaced with s***? The president didn't say s-asterisk-asterisk-asterisk, and it just seems unnecessary for a word like that to be censored in a quote, and a relatively inoffensive one at that.
:Wikipedia is not censored.  This should not be "bleeped" out - if the reader finds it offensive, they should take it up with the person who said it, not the medium in which they were informed of it. Nimur 03:52, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Censoring of shit 

message: Regarding this section:
:Although Britons were upset with the perception that Blair was subordinate to Bush, elsewhere the fact that Bush claimed the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict would not have escalated if Syria would have pressured the Hezbollah to "stop doing this shit" was of greater concern, particularly in the Middle East. 
I've changed it for two reasnons:
* The US isn't 'elsewhere'. The wording implies Britain is some quaint little village and the United States is the rest of the world. 
* I don't think anyone in the Middle East was concerned with the expletive (cite if I'm wrong). They are concerned with Bush's already stated policies, which this incident was merely a more informal restatement of.
Damburger 08:26, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bush statements 

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message: There is a slow-motion edit war about one aspect of 32nd G8 summit.  
Beginning with the 3rd G7 summit in London in 1977, the President of the European Commission or his successor President of the European Union has been a formal participant in successive annual events -- see   In each article about G7/G8 summits, Lucie-Marie has deleted text about EU participation.  These serial reverts ignored hyperlinks in the supporting inline citations which were also deleted.  Despite attempts to engage discussion here, no consensus has been achieved. Her opinions  here have merit, but they remain only opinions.  No cited source supports these reverts.  Our core policies require something different. WP:V seems relevant because "the threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth — whether readers can check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true."
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A slow-motion edit war is worrisome; but discussion can be constructive -- see  Muskoka 2010: G8 members
The edit history of 36th G8 summit records an unhelpful pattern:
# diff 17:40, 9 July 2008 Lucy-marie (6,628 bytes) (→Composition of summit leaders) 
#   diff 16:48, 20 July 2008 Lucy-marie (10,987 bytes) (→Leaders at the summit: EU is invited and could be left off the invite list so it is not a oermenet member) 
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#   diff 19 March 2010 JLogan (24,837 bytes) (EU is a permanent participant, not merely a guest. check the main page) 
The same pattern is seen at 37th G8 summit:
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This thread may help resolve the issues, or it may help bring clearer focus. --Tenmei (talk) 02:22, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: EU participation

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