Talk:Hourglass

message: Should there be a separate section discussing how the use of the hourglass was impacted after the invention of the mechanical clock? The only reference I can see in the article about this topic does not have any citations that correspond to this topic. Lizcarrano (talk) 16:48, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Relevance after the Mechanical Clock

message: There is an album called Hourglass by James Taylor not mentioned with "Hourglass".  There is a link for an hourglass single record, but it would seem wierd to place two links at the top of a page like that.  Instead, due to me being inexperenced and problably mess it up, can someone make a disambiguation page or, if it seems ok, just place it under the other hourglass link. Thx, Nickmaster 22:19, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hourglass album 

message: interestingly it does not mention the use of hourglasses as a signal for busy in operating systems —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SleweD (talk • contribs) 13:36, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  cursors 

message: Glassmaking in Europe goes back to at least Roman times, so probably what the article should read is that glassmaking for hourglasses was brought to Europe by the Venetians?
Alpha Ralpha Boulevard (talk) 21:11, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's a legacy bit from before I hacked at the article. Needs something, but be careful: I've come across mentions of hourglasses being put into Roman statues restored during the Renaissance, which couldn't have had them in the original. Roman glass is probably heavier and more opaque than the blown glass needed for hourglasses, but that's just a fuzzy recollection while I'm typing here. —Yamara ✉ 00:46, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Glassmaking in Europe

message: I'm adding a quote to give a broader historical context (and replacing in History that it was only used back as far as the 11th century).  This source seems fairly dispassionate, knowledgable and detailed, but there are bound to be better. "The Book of Days: A Miscellany of Popular Antiquities in Connection with the Calendar"
Alpha Ralpha Boulevard (talk) 00:56, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Historical usage

message: The article should mention somewhere that black widow spiders have hourglasses on their bellies.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.105.128.54 (talk) 23:10, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Spider

message: Several sentences seem to have been copied verbatim from http://www.thepirateking.com/historical/sand_glass.htm In particular, the entire "Largest Sandglasses" paragraph -- 202.63.39.58 (talk) 12:12, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a little hard to tell who copied whom. The original Wiki version contained the same (weakly written sentence) "One of the bulbs is usually filled with fine sand which flows through the narrow tube into the bottom bulb at a given rate." The section removed by Dougweller clearly was a Wiki copyright violation, since a reference was given to the place it was copied from!. The removed material wasn't especially encyclopedic, unless one is interested in subverting Wikipedia into becoming The Guinness Book of World Records. Alpha Ralpha Boulevard (talk) 03:28, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible copyvio? 

message: I have a pretty extensive vocabulary, and had never before heard the word "sandglass". When I first read it, I thought it might be some subtle vandalism. However, after a bit of web searching, I am satisfied that it is a real word: albeit about 25 times less common than "hourglass." However this makes me wonder if it is a regionalism? Does anyone know? -- 202.63.39.58 (talk) 12:18, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "Sand-glass" is in the OED with a number of examples starting 1556, including a variation spelled "sandglass". It is not marked as dialect, and the examples make it clear that it was in common, professional use. Regards, Alpha Ralpha Boulevard (talk) 03:13, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distribution of the word "sandglass" 

message: I have included the entry on hourglass from Ibn Seerin's Book of Dreams. It was undone by someone stupidly claiming the book doesn't exist. An ISBN trace makes it evidently clear it does. The book includes a forward by Dr Mahmoud Ayoub, a leading Islamic Studies academic. Ibn Seerin (Ibn Sirin)  is entered on Wikipedia and reference is also made to the same book.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Plimfix (talk • contribs) 10:56, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed references to this book twice now. There is such a book, but it isn't clear who wrote it or when. Ibn Sirin's article says he didn't, as does . Dougweller (talk) 11:23, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't notice the misplaced edit above, which I've moved to the bottom under the section I started. The existence of a book doesn't make it a reliable source. When it can be shown that the book was written by the alleged author, only then can it be used. At the moment it appears that he didn't write it, including the author's article that Plimfix mentions. I've asked Plimfix to take this to RSN if he disagrees. Hopefully without any personal attacks. Dougweller (talk) 11:30, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Ibn Sirin]]'s Dictionary of Dreams 

message: I'm really not sure why the Body shape section is here...it doesn't fit in well with the rest of the article, it has no sources, and it's...creepy. I'm removing it for now, if somebody comes up with a legitimate reason for its inclusion they can add it back and hopefully explain themselves here. --Kierkkadon talk/contribs 14:00, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hourglass body shape section? 

message: It's an hourglass tipped on it's side, representing time no longer flowing/running out.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.55.176.9 (talk) 20:05, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Wrong, see infinity symbol. It's also called lemniscate and the usual interpretation is as a stylised Möbius strip, but that cannot be the historical origin either as John Wallis introduced the symbol already in 1655. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 20:21, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infinity symbol 

message: I trimmed the following from the introductory paragraph, but it may find a different home.Alternatives to sand are powdered eggshell and powdered marble (sources disagree on the best material). In modern times, hourglasses are ornamental, or used when an approximate measure suffices, as in egg timers for cooking or for board games.
—jameslucas (" " / +) 13:24, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  trimmed content 

message: "Some of the most famous hourglasses are the twelve-hour hourglass of Charlemagne of France" -- Charlemagne of France? Really? 
While the Roman Emperor Charlemagne was a Frankish king, there was no France during his lifetime. The reference for this and for the following information about Holbein is an obscure website that itself doesn't quote sources. One starts to wonder how reliable the rest of this article is ...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.85.163.42 (talk) 13:47, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistakes copied from an unscholarly source 

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message: Perhaps I am misunderstanding the following sentence:
„There are no records of the hourglass existing in Europe prior to the Early Middle Ages, such as invention by the Ancient Greeks“. 
Hourglasses were used in Greek trials to accord speakers equal time. See also the preceding paragraph, „antiquity“. Akalovid (talk) 09:22, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  No hourglasses in Europe prior to the Middle Ages?!!!? 

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