Talk:Earl of Lucan

message: I do not see him on the current list. He likely got turfed out by the 1999 Act, but this point should be clarified in the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.25.46.250 (talk) 13:14, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does Lord Lucan have a seat in the House of Lords?

message: The Times (of London) today contained the sentence 'Lady Lucan said of her son, who has taken his father?s title but does not use it....'. This implies that her son, George Bingham is officially the 8th Earl. Is this true? And what evidence supports the article's assertion that the Earldom hasn't passed to George Bingham?
I also note that the Dowager Lady Lucan's website  states:
In late 1998 my son applied for a writ of summons to take his father's Seat in the House of Lords but this was not authorised by the Lord Chancellor.
He did not apply to use his father's title. He automatically became 8th Earl of Lucan when his father was presumed deceased in 1992 but chose not to use the title. No one else has a claim to it. He is the 7th Earl of Lucan's only son and heir.
Probate was granted on 11th August 1999 in the same way it is for anyone who has made a Will. The Grant issued by the High Court of Justice read:
BE IT KNOWN that the Right Honourable RICHARD JOHN BINGHAM 7th Earl of Lucan of 72a Elizabeth Street London SW1 died on or since the 8th day of November 1974. (The net value of his estate amounted to £14,709.)
jguk 10:59, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I must admit I'm almost tempted to add Lord Bingham as de facto 8th Earl. The HofL ruling seems peverse, past deaths of peers in air crashes and shipwrecks have resulted in normal succession and the issuing of a writ without a body and without in some instances even a court ruling to confirm the death. Other than waiting till the 7th Earl would be >118 (or whatver the longest lived human is now) I struggle to see how this would be ever proven to the satifaction of the HofL.Alci12 16:17, 4 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Title was disclaimed - it's not abeyant - you can only renounce for yourself and in due course TBs eldest son will inherit Alci12 16:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh and Hillary Benn isn't the eldest son - it's Stephen Benn. Timrollpickering 03:51, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Is there an 8th Earl of Lucan?

message: This is a mess: 
"Patrick Sarsfield's great nephew, Charles Bingham had the title restored in 1795. Due to the long period in which the title was in abeyance, and because legal questions had existed over whether James II was still king when awarding the title"
Either the original title was granted lawfully and that grant exists (it passed the great seal and a copy presumably still held) or a new grant was issued and that grant must exist. How was the title 'restored', if it was, a writ granted in the heirs favour to attend parliment? We ought to be able to answer these qustions and the present is not clear and seems confused. Alci12 16:18, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title issue. 

message: What, pray tell, is the connection between this Bingham family and the absolute psychopaths who ravaged, slaughtered and decimated (at the very least) Connacht in the last three decades of the sixteenth century? I am of course referring to George Bingham and his even more barbarous brother, Richard Bingham. If there is any connection, this title was in 'disrepute" long before 1974. And if they are the same Binghams how on earth did the Sarsfields end up related to them? 194.125.72.144 19:15, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Binghams

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