Talk:Crush fetish

message: I feel this article is in need of a big cleanup, so I made some edits that hopefully take care of a few things.
There are several problems with this article, that I can see based on my current knowledge of the 'crush fetish.'
-The discussion of and media containing 'animal crushing' is extremely difficult to find in comparison to 'soft crushing.'  I found, by far, mostly legal sites of insect & object crushing.  THis article mentions a lot of illegal content, and fails to identify the existence of the majority of material.
-Most crush fetishists decry 'hard crush' content, while the article seems to paint another picture
-The article talks about topics in the wrong sections or articles (i.e. Chinese laws re: animal cruelty and crush films are described in depth in the main article.
-There is a photo - In my opinion not necessary as the other sexual fetishes include no photographs.
My goal here is to present an UNBIASED and factual and representation of this fetish through the article.
I'm removing the picture, removing multiple references to animal cruelty and putting it in one place, reorganizing some sentences, and including references to message boards and chats as this is the primary means of communication for crush fetishists.
I feel it is important to mention the horrible crush stuff produced by this Chinese lady and other people.  THis is how many people will find out about this fetish and its important to mention.  I know hard crush is not prominent in the crush community, but it is extreme, so its worth mentioning.
I feel like many people have tried hard to use references on this page, and many references have been removed, as they can be seen in the history.  Admins and others requesting references should understand that other than placing links to message boards, groups, news articles, and online stores, it can be hard to reference stuff.  But I feel the places I mentioned above provide a good representation of whats out there.  I'm including some here:
http://www.ocmb.net - This seems to be the main source for communication in the crush community - a message board
http://www.crushbabes.com http://www.crush-fetish.net, http://www.crushmovies.com/, etc. - very popular online stores for crush fetishists, several of MANY
The news items mentioned already in ext. links.
Several online groups - groups.yahoo.com/group/FemaleCrushingStuff groups.yahoo.com/group/squishythings groups.yahoo.com/group/CHE_Main etc. etc.
http://commdocs.house.gov/committees/judiciary/hju63862.000/hju63862_0f.htm
Zendyindy 17:03, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup & Edits 

message: I have added a merge tag to this article to match the one on Trampling fetishism.  This needs more discussion before anything is done, so please remember to sign your comments with ~~~~ at the end. Robotman1974 08:14, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No cogent arguments have been given against the merge, so I have completed it and left a redirect page at Trampling fetishism. Robotman1974 02:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: Only someone that knows absolutely nothing about Trampling would suggest this article be merged with crush fetish. They are different subjects. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.154.11.151 (talk • contribs).
Please then... add content to the page that supports this position instead of just making issue in discussion.  I've just edited the page to show the distinction between trample and crush. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.255.73.76 (talk • contribs).
It doesn't need content to "support" it.  Whats there is enough to show that they aren't the same. =)  Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.80.146.248 (talk • contribs).
They are the same fetish. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.3.234.113 (talk • contribs).
They are not the same fetish. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.109.212.188 (talk • contribs).
why are they not the same?  Crush is focused on INANIMATE OBJECTS trampling is focused on THE PERSON WITH THE FETISH BEING TRAMPLED - how can anyone consider them the same?  as someone with a trampling fetish I can say firsthand I have no interest in seeing a pebble or ant or whatever get stepped on.  If it is such an interest of debate I will be happy to create a poll on a foot/trampling/crush fetish forum with a membership of over 50,000, and we can settle it once and for all. 
thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.73.230.24 (talk) 01:59, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Copy & pasted from [[Talk:Trampling fetishism]]

message: I reverted changes made by someone on an IP address (200.60.251.204) removing much of the content of the article on June 15th.  I'm not sure why???  No reason was given on the edit summary.  If this person wishes to explain, please do so here.  Until then, the page has been restored.Zendyindy 13:59, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert on 06.30.06 

message: This article was just reverted to a version that existed before I completed the merge mentioned above.  I have reverted back to the previous version I completed.  The missing content can be found in this diff.  Please do not simply revert the work I have done in merging these articles again.  The additional info can be added in quite easily without the need to revert.  Thanks. Robotman1974 17:33, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Revert after merge

message: I added a weasel tag; this article is full of half-baked writing, such as "due to some videos involving small creatures, some films have been made illegal in certain regions." (Emphasis mine). Given detail, a sentence like this might actually mean something. As it stands, it's weak and poorly written. There's a lot of this here that needs to be fleshed out, but it needs the hand of an editor who knows the subject; I just don't.PacificBoy 23:31, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Weasel tag

message: "the United States, creating, distributing, or possessing [hard] crush videos has been illegal since 1999"
Not true. The Stevens decision struck down the 99 law in April 10 and the successor law was not enacted until December.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1008:B16D:E5ED:0:48:1482:E201 (talk) 03:51, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
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message: As seen here and here, there is a lot of WP:Synthesis, poor sourcing and random cases being added to this article. PureRED and I have reverted before, but an IP-hopper keeps adding all of this material. Thoughts? I will alert WP:Porn and WP:Law to this matter. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 16:22, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Via the BLP noticeboard I've watchlisted, started clicking around. I'm sixty mumble years old and did not expect to be shocked by anything I saw following links from here to a chinese news site. Legitimately used as a source I think. Roxy the dog. bark 20:59, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: This is definitely a very... interesting(?) topic. Thanks to everyone for staying vigilant. Definitely lots of synthesis going on. PureRED | talk to me  | 21:02, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent expansions 

message: :I removed some user-generated photos of a man stepping on various creatures such as bugs, snails and a lobster. I do not think that readers are in doubt as to what stepping on such creatures entails.  The photos did not improve the article. I will restore ghem if there is a consensus to the contrary. Edison (talk) 21:44, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
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message: No question they get a thrill, but is it always sexual? Some people just torture and kill animals. They enjoy it because they are violent disturbed people. Not all serial killers are sexual perverts. Not all animal serial killers are sexual perverts. According to serial killer, motivations are "anger, thrill-seeking, financial gain, and attention seeking" (presumably "thrill seeking" includes sexual gratification). The article is called "fetish" but that may not fully describe it. -- GreenC 05:48, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fetish?