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Talk:Piggy Bank

message: I can find no corroboration in my sources for the etymology given in these pages for "piggy-bank".  I consulted both The concise Oxford dictionary of English etymology by T.F. Hoad and The Oxford English Dictionary, second edition.
The OED has this to say about "pig":
pig (pIg), n.1 Forms: 3­7 pigge, 4­6 pygge, 5 pygg, 5­8 pigg, 6 pyg, (7 bigg), 6­ pig. 
[Early ME. pigge:–prob. OE. *picga, *pigga. Etymology obscure. 
"Etymology obscure" is the killer for me.
I also looked up "clay".  The OED does not reference "pygg" as a variant word for clay.  The OED traces "piggy-bank" only as far back as 1941 in written records.
I could be all wet about this, of course.  But, for the time being, I must consign this word history to what etymologists call "folk etymology," i.e., it sounds reasonable, but 'taint so.
: Agreed: apparent urban myth, like Eskimos having 999 words for snow or whatever. 86.130.249.236 (talk) 20:31, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
Talk:Paul Harvey

message: At 22:09 on 9 June 2007, someone from 71.32.57.221 added a note to the Family section identifying the religion of some of Paul Harvey's relatives. How is this relevant? And why is this article part of the Seventh Day Adventist church project? A person's religion might be slightly relevant if it played a role in their notable lifetime achievements, and if the claim had a source to cite, but as it currently stands I think the sentence should be removed. Otherwise are we going to go through all of Wikipedia and identify the religion of everyone mentioned? No -- not just their religion, but their relatives religion? What's the point? 72.208.56.148 02:12, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I found a mention of Harvey as a Seventh Day Adventist here but note that his wife, according to all her obits in May 2008, was buried from a Presbyterian church.  Maybe they had two different faiths.  Since Harvey's not primarily known as a religious figure, I don't think it's vital to the article unless we are sure.  If sure, it's a nice piece of standard biographical data and should be included.  The NNDB data might be accurate, but I'd be more comfortable with additional sourcing. -- LisaSmall T/C 18:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

text: I don't think Paul Harvey is a Seventh-day Adventists, given that he has long had a Saturday broadcast, when SDAs observe the Sabbath. He's been a friend of, or at least acquainted with, Billy Graham, who I believe is a Southern Baptist. The only church I've heard him mention favorably in one of his commentaries is The Salvation Army, though I'm sure he has talked favorably of others.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.222.23 (talk) 14:08, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

text: *The phrase seemingly describing Harvey as never baptized but almost an Adventist has been removed. The Batura source describes Harvey as a Christian who mingled easily with congregations of various faiths. If he attended Camelback SDA Church week by week over the winter months, that relationship has significance. Can it be sourced reliably is the question. drs (talk) 12:15, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seventh Day Adventist?
Talk:Duke of Leinster

message: The coat of arms shown has a viscount's coronet.  Is that because all the higher titles are Irish?  —Tamfang 02:20, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm teach me to run this with gfx disabled. It is possible that the Duke sought a(n) (English) grant of arms as he may never have had any previous grant. The Irish titles existing before grants were normal so likely assumed some time around the original titles. However I can't find anything to say so. Would be very interesting to know if Garter would only grant Arms according to English titles and Ulster Irish etc [This] suggests that the form we expect exists but under what grant.Alci12 20:57, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  the arms 

message: I have lots of research on these specific (1st & 2nd creation) ancestries. (Genealogies; Coronets; ribbons; lozenge; arms, & etc), although it may take me some time, I can re-create genealogical trees of most of the (1st creation) descendants/ancestors, if required &/or requested??? Stephen2nd (talk) 11:38, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Family trees from the 1st creations

message: @SeoR just starting a talking point on this page so users can discuss this matter. You claimed that the Irish Constitution does not prohibit the continued existence of titles of nobility sourced from a foreign invasion. Could you read Article 40 and come back to me about that? 
Can I pick your brain about a few other things, as it seems we have different opinions on the connection between "Duke of Leinster" and the current, independent status of Leinster. 
You said: "the peerage titles flow from the Crown in another country, and are regulated by patents controlled by the law of that country. They have little or no official standing in Ireland, but they exist." 
What specific patents for so-called peers of Ireland are you refering to? What "little" bit of standing do these titles have in Ireland?
I just think it's illogical to claim a title on foreign, sovereign land. Wikiejd2 (talk) 08:23, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish Constitution 

message: I'm fairly certain it's pronounced /ˈlɛn.stər/. Here are some Irish folks saying it. 68.193.141.193 (talk) 22:45, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: Does the present (9th) duke, Maurice FitzGerald, warrant his own article? His information, while relevant, seems excessive here. Feargal27 (talk) 13:46, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. Have you read :Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Maurice FitzGerald, 9th Duke of Leinster? Guliolopez (talk) 20:41, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split proposed
Talk:Italian hip hop

message: 99POSSE IS NOT IN ROMANO... THEY ARE FROM NAPOLI!!!!
in the rapper of this years very importanti is: Saga er Secco
put it, is from rome  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.52.218.94 (talk) 12:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: il suo titolo e' prisiucolinationalciusol  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.30.101.146 (talk) 21:35, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  il primo rap italiano e' di Adriano Celentano del 1973
Talk:April 30

message: *Why is there a link to the National Council on Child Abuse & Family Violence near the bottom of this page?  Is this on the strength of it being Children's Day in Mexico?
:The link itself goes to this specific date (April 30) as its "No Hitting" day.  It makes references to 2003 and the link (not the idea) may no longer be relevant. -- Borameer ™ 18:01, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anti-child abuse 

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thread_title:  [[User:LinkBot/suggestions/April_30|Link suggestions]] 

message: I've re-added the launch of Virgin Radio. I think the first national commercial rock radio station on MW in the United Kingdom, the station that threatened Radio One's broadcasting hold and was backed a multimillionaire and owner of an international company and one that later employed names such as Chris Evans, Nick Abbot, Tommy Vance etc is a little more than "not notable"  
Eugenespeed (talk) 00:18, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It might be marginally notable in the UK but how notable is it for the rest of the world?  I see it being about as notable as the day Howard Stern first appeared on Sirius satellite radio.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 01:36, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Virgin Radio 

message: Could someone with more skills than I have add Mary Phelps Jacob, b. April 30, 1891, to the birthday roll and link to her entry?  Thanks!
:She was born March 30. Jim Michael (talk) 23:44, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Mary Phelps Jacob]] 

message: Looking at the article, this doesn't look like a real thing.--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 01:57, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honesty day? 

message: Martyr's Day is called Martyrs' Day in the Wiki article it is linked to.  I thought it was a misspelling so I changed it to Martyrs' but someone is upset now. It has something to do with "verifiability", but it seems to me that changing it from the actual Wiki article it is linked to is what requires verifiability, especially when it changes the sense.  So why is the entry here changed from the entry in the Wiki article it is linked to? --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 17:56, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, no.  Your spelling change may have been correct, but it was reverted with the two unsourced entries you also added. Days of the Year pages are no longer exempt from WP:V and direct sources are required for additions.  For details see the WikiProject Days of the Year style guide.  Toddst1 (talk) 17:59, 3 May 2019 (UTC)

text: . As stated above, the reverts were not due to the Martyrs' Day change, but for your other additions. I made the spelling change like you wanted, but your other changes will still  need to be verified with reliable sources. SkyWarrior 18:02, 3 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Martyr's Day"
Talk:Tribe 8

message: an anyone confirm Slade Bellum's gender?  Is Slade female-to-male transgendered, or just looking that way on the liner notes of the "Snarkism" CD?  heidimo  19:40, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Tribe 8 and Bay Area Acts. (cover story)
Authors:	Braindrop, Lily
Block, Adam
Source:	Advocate; 10/8/91 Issue 587, p39, 1p, 1c
Document Type:	Article
Abstract:	Reports on the San Francisco, California lesbian punk bank Tribe 8. Performances aimed at breaking stereotypes and expressing sexuality; San Francisco as haven for queer artists; City venues for queer acts.
ISSN:	0001-8996
--Larrybob 00:14, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources to investigate 

message: I'm unsure on the first and last active dates.  It would also be good to find a picture.
HNowell (talk) 23:26, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox musical artist added but needs work
Talk:Dissonance

message: I think that this article may make more sense if we group the different concepts of dissonance, especially, from most specific (and least interpretable) to most general (and most interpretable), my proposed outline:
#intro: In music, dissonance is the opposite of consonance. Both are words applied to harmony, chords, and intervals: sounds which are dissonant seem unstable, and have an aural need to resolve to a stable consonance. The most strict definition of dissonance may be all sounds which are considered unpleasant, while the most general definition includes only those which are restricted in their use.
#Aesthetical - "unpleasant" -> "unstable" -> "complex frequency ratios"
#Physical - "complex frequency ratios" -> "non-blending" -> "partials do not overlap"
#Applicational - "restricted in use"
#conclusion
Hyacinth
:: I might suggest as a possible alternative, to take the reverse order, ie, applicational -> Physical --> Aesthetical.  
:: I might also suggest another category, "perceptual", although perhaps can be addressed alongside the "physical".
:: I might also suggest that under "applicational", in addition to the different usage rules and procedures surrounding the idea of dissonance in the western musical tradition, some treatment should be given to the idea of dissonance in other musical cultures.  
:: Also the article on "dissonance" almost exactly parallels the article on "consonance" (or it did, anyway, until recent edits).  Perhaps the two articles should be merged into one article on "dissonance and consonance".  They really are two sides of the same coin.
:: All in all I think the article will be more sensible if it gives more emphasis to the idea that "dissonance" is not just one monolithic concept but rather a whole family of related and interrelated ideas.  Teasing some of these out will make the article both more informative and less misleading.
:: In addition, the article should give some idea of the importance of the idea of dissonance.  This is not just some minor or inconsequential side-topic.  For example, in the history of western music, the case can be made that the development of everything from scales, intervals, chords, and tuning systems to the preference for certain timbres over others can be traced to certain cultural ideas about dissonance and consonance.  An article about dissonance that does not mention this important connection seems to me to have missed the point.
::Bhugh 19:15, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Why don't you indicate the passage you consider most POV or disputed and we'll work on making on more NPOV. It seems to me that the additions I made indicated several important areas that were previously neglected in the article that should be addressed (see my comments above). I certainly won't argue with the facts that the presentation of these issues can be improved, in some cases greatly improved, and that in some cases better support or evidence for the statements can be given. Bhugh 19:15, 29 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: I think that this article
Talk:ISO 3166-2:TH

message: For completion here are the FIPS codes for the Thai provinces. The list IMHO doesn't deserve an article by itself. This list is also identical with ISO/DIS 3166-2:TH. Source: :
*TH-01   Mae Hong Son
*TH-02   Chiang Mai
*TH-03   Chiang Rai
*TH-04   Nan
*TH-05   Lamphun
*TH-06   Lampang
*TH-07   Phrae
*TH-08   Tak
*TH-09   Sukhothai
*TH-10   Uttaradit
*TH-11   Kamphaeng Phet
*TH-12   Phitsanulok
*TH-13   Phichit
*TH-14   Phetchabun
*TH-15   Uthai Thani
*TH-16   Nakhon Sawan
*TH-17   Nong Khai
*TH-18   Loei
*TH-19   Udon Thani
*TH-20   Sakon Nakhon
*TH-21   Nakhon Phanom
*TH-22   Khon Kaen
*TH-23   Kalasin
*TH-24   Maha Sarakham
*TH-25   Roi Et
*TH-26   Chaiyaphum
*TH-27   Nakhon Ratchasima
*TH-28   Buriram
*TH-29   Surin
*TH-30   Sisaket
*TH-31   Narathiwat
*TH-32   Chai Nat
*TH-33   Sing Buri
*TH-34   Lop Buri
*TH-35   Ang Thong
*TH-36   Phra Nakhon Si Ayutthaya
*TH-37   Saraburi
*TH-38   Nonthaburi
*TH-39   Pathum Thani
*TH-40   Krung Thep (Bangkok)
*TH-41   Phayao
*TH-42   Samut Prakan
*TH-43   Nakhon Nayok
*TH-44   Chachoengsao
*TH-45   Prachin Buri
*TH-46   Chon Buri
*TH-47   Rayong
*TH-48   Chanthaburi
*TH-49   Trat
*TH-50   Kanchanaburi
*TH-51   Suphan Buri
*TH-52   Ratchaburi
*TH-53   Nakhon Pathom
*TH-54   Samut Songkhram
*TH-55   Samut Sakhon
*TH-56   Phetchaburi
*TH-57   Prachuap Khiri Khan
*TH-58   Chumphon
*TH-59   Ranong
*TH-60   Surat Thani
*TH-61   Phangnga
*TH-62   Phuket
*TH-63   Krabi
*TH-64   Nakhon Si Thammarat
*TH-65   Trang
*TH-66   Phatthalung
*TH-67   Satun
*TH-68   Songkhla
*TH-69   Pattani
*TH-70   Yala
*TH-71   Ubon Ratchathani
*TH-72   Yasothon
In December 1998 the list was updated due to 3 newly created provinces - Source  (PDF-File)
*TH-73 Nakhon Phanom (was TH-21)
*TH-74 Prachin Buri (was TH-45)
*TH-75 Ubon Ratchathani (was TH-71)
*TH-76 Udon Thani (was TH-19)
*TH-77 Amnat Charoen
*TH-78 Mukdahan
*TH-79 Nong Bua Lamphu
andy 20:45, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)
Talk:University of Massachusetts Amherst

message: According to Wikipedia:Avoid data-hoarding, it is best not to overfill Wiki pages with information copied in a rote manner from university homepages or other self-promoting institutions. The proper place for such large amounts of data are the lists devoted to GLOs at a given university. A good example is here, where there is lots of space for details which don't belong in the general article. --Melchior2006 (talk) 16:10, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  The Data-hoarding essay is interesting, but not really applicable here. --The truculent point being not to jam, for example, an artist's entire corpus of work into an infobox.  Better to point to a page with such a list.  However, conceptually, this essay does point to the direction that future editors for the F&S Project will likely go, as they port information about the Greeks to a separate page.  Jax MN (talk) 16:52, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree (and love the "truckling" point!). If we were to list all the hobby (and academic) student groups and band subdivisions and sports clubs, which come and go (as do GLOs), it would just be too much. So why did you revert my clean-up? --Melchior2006 (talk) 06:40, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listing so many Greek houses is data-hoarding
Talk:Anthony Boucher

message: Please check the sentence Boucher was born as William Anthony Parker White in Oakland, California and went to college there at USC for correctness. I am not sure if the as is set correctly. The sentence sounded pretty wrong without it, thats why I set it.
ReneS 20:54, 2004 Jan 15 (UTC)]
: No, it's fine without the as. TheMadBaron 21:28, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Since Anthony Boucher is the pseudonym, I felt his birth name should be on the same line of text. I also moved the photo to External links. -- Michael David 22:55, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Anthony Boucher, mystery writer and editor who served as the New York Times Book Review`s first ``Newgate Calendar`` mystery critic.
--Rsquid (talk) 21:53, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth name & pseudonyms 

message: Please note that I have edited _The Casebook of Gregory Hood_ by Boucher and Green for Crippen and Landru, Publishers.  Whenever this article is updated, I suggest this collection of 14 radio plays be added.  --Joe R. Christopher  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.197.25.223 (talk) 00:28, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been added, as well as a link to the radio programmes themselves.  Since Wikipedia is "the encyclopedia that anyone can edit", and you know the volume best, please feel free to add items like this yourself in the future. Accounting4Taste:talk 16:08, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Casebook of Gregory Hood 

message: Another victim of tobacco?Lestrade (talk) 23:36, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably; so many of his contemporaries were. (One of the biggest problems for a time-traveller attending a pre-1970 SF convention, I'm assured, would be the ubiquity and intensity of tobacco use.) --Orange Mike  |  Talk 18:21, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Death

message: In the short paragraph right before the section on his death, he is said to be a political activist.
There are a lot of possibilities here --- could somebody who knows please write a sentence or two about what his causes were?
TIA if this is possible.
Son of eugene (talk) 03:17, 17 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political Activism 
Talk:Fresh Kills

message: --I added a link to the Freshkills Park article. Wittyallusion (talk) 15:44, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

message: I am moving the contents of the page to a new entry Fresh Kills Landfill. The term Fresh Kills properly refers to a stream by that name that drains most of western Staten Island. Decumanus 21:34, 15 Jan 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Why are Fresh Kills separate from the Fresh Kills Landfill that they drain? Shouldn't Arthur Kill be discussed under the unified heading? Potential for understanding is lost in the slicing and dicing. --Wetman 08:00, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)

text: In a related matter, it is not clear that the Fresh Kills is being redeveloped as parkland and reclaimed wetlands.  This is clearer on the Fresh Kills Landfill page, where it is said that "Starting in 2003, the site was to be transformed into reclaimed wetlands, recreational facilities and landscaped public parkland, the largest expansion of the New York City parks since the development of the chain of parks in the Bronx during the 1890s. In January, 2005, Staten Island Borough president James Molinaro announced plans to open three roads leading out of the former landfill to regular traffic, as part of an effort to ease the road congestion for which Staten Island has become notorious in recent years."  Either this wording should be repreated or rephrased so that this is understood.  Digit LeBoid 22:04, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: NY-440 is mislabeled I-278. Can someone fix? —173.56.25.136 (talk) 06:10, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mislabeled map
Talk:Gilbert Elliot-Murray-Kynynmound, 4th Earl of Minto

message: Well, there seems to be some disagreement about his name. The DoCB citation gives Gilbert John Murray-Kynynmound Elliot.  His surname is clearly Elliot, NOT Elliot-Murray-Kynynmound - The DoCB citation is not incorrect in this regard either as this is supported also by the Governor General of Canada website entry, and numerous other sources. For instance the English National portrait gallery invariably calls him Gilbert Elliot. There are admittedly many references to his name appearing the other way as well - what is going on here, did he change it at some point? Fawcett5 13:00, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct Name 

message: Once again, I am wondering if this former Governor General of Canada should not have the title of Right Honourable. He was a member of the British Privy Council.
:Right again. :-) Proteus (Talk) 22:22, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: All earls are right honourable.  We're not giving any new information by calling him right honourable, are we? john k 22:30, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Right Honourable?? 

message: "served under Lord Roberts in the second Afghan War."  In what capacity?
It seems there is some informaation missing here.
We are told he left the regular army but became a member of a Volunteer corps, then served as a press correspondent before "taking service" with the Turkish Army. If he then served under Lord Roberts in Afghanistan, in what capacity was he serving?  Had he somehow rejoined the army? Had he been on leave of absence all the while? Was it in some civilian capacity? He certainly seemed to be in uniform when photographed among Roberts staff circa 1880. The narrative is incomplete.
JF42 (talk) JF42 (talk) 19:51, 1 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "served under Lord Roberts  "
Talk:Micropolyphony

message: Wouldn't Ligeti's "Requiem" be a better example of micropolyphony than his "Atmosphères"? The "Requiem" appeared in 2001 as well. I think that "Atmosphères" actually predates his micropolyphonic breakthroughs.
:I think "Atmospheres" is a more well known example, and it is described, on All Classical Guide as beginning with a five-octave chromatic chord which parts then slowly drop away from leaving a tone cluster in the horns. Not that we need only have one example.Hyacinth 20:09, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Requiem

message: *In a later introduction to Apparitions, Ligeti recounted a horrific childhood dream whose image of a "web" he would associate with the "web of sound" created by micropolyphony:
*
I removed the above lengthy quote as it has little to do with music. Hyacinth (talk) 01:23, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed: Quote