Talk:Great Trail

message: Great article! Is there an equivalent in Canada? Denni talk 02:14, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Canada

message: This article needs a diagram of the trails... -Ravedave (Adopt a State) 21:36, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Diagram

message: Hello. As an interested reader, my first reaction to "Some sources describe the Great Trail as beginning at one point or another." was: where? In the interest of completeness (or even NPOV), I think it's a good idea to include the most common examples. If it's a really marginal issue, then I would take the sentence out because it seems to leave a noteworthy point unexplained. Just a friendly suggestion. -- bcasterline • talk 06:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: * That solution seems reasonable, but I think it encroaches on WP:NPOV / WP:OR. Is there a more authoritative source (without the local bias) that says as much? Then you might say something like "While some historians describe the trial with a beginning and an ending, the trial is better understood as a larger network of trade routes of varying size without any single direction" and cite the source. If there isn't such a source, then I might take out those two sentences ("Some sources ... an arbitrary matter") and merge the third with the next paragraph -- so the reader gets the scope without any false impressions. But you've done all the research here, so it's of course up to your discretion. :) -- bcasterline • talk 18:40, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Boundaries

message: Regarding our initial discussion at your page and my page, am moving this to the article to continue. 
The trail that crossed the Passaic River at what would become the village of  Chatham in 1710 is the same as the contemporary  Route 24 and because of the information given about Route 2 in Massachusetts corresponding to the trails, earlier in the article, I inserted the information. 
Now I realize that you do not want to cite each and every trail in the network, since they were numerous, but that landing is important, however, because it became the location of one of the first bridges across the river that, along with the Watchung Mountains, created a natural barrier, hence the early purchase of the land in 1680 and the early permanent settlement established thirty years later. The territory of the Lenape was essentially, what is now New Jersey and the New York harbor area with bits of Connecticut, Delaware, New York state, and Pennsylvania. The old trail is an important route west from the Hudson, and one that was crucial when Morristown was the military capital of the Revolutionary War. 
The area through which the trail led, with its rich soils, was a major location for agriculture among the Amerindians, even greater than its use for hunting -- no wonder New Jersey became "the garden state". 
If you ever begin to expand the article, this trail is a good candidate for inclusion. I'll be glad to help.  
P.S. regarding your comment above regarding the plains and prairies, don't forget that the horse only arrived back in North America with the Spanish, and there was an enormous amount of time prior to that when the Amerindians arrived and dispersed, ten thousand years. The eastern woodlands were especially bountiful -- providing a sustainable way of life without having to traverse great distances or follow herds about. 83d40m 18:26, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crossing the Passaic or Fishawack at Chatham 

message: I'll look into the southeastern trails... first search indicates that this could become a lifetime activity, but there are some really promising sites such as, http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-790 
http://tennesseeencyclopedia.net/imagegallery.php?EntryID=T106
http://smithdray.tripod.com/trails-index-11.html
http://1st-history-of-the.us/tennessee1.html
http://www.hernando-desoto.com/introduction.html
http://www.hernando-desoto.com/american-conquest.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/inseta.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/inset1.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/inset11.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/inset33.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/alabama.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/tennessee.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/kentucky.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/indiana.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/illinois.html#SouthernIllinois
http://www.floridahistory.com/missouri.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/arkansas.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/arkansab.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/texas.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/texas.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/arkansaz.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/etc.html
http://www.floridahistory.com/epilogue.html
http://www.hernando-desoto.com/text-only.html
http://www.over-land.com/trindian.html
I know the Indians in Florida moved north during the summer and one good season of growth would cover most trails there, but they must have had good markers, because they returned to the same locations time and again.  
I'll build a list here and be typing to you... 83d40m 01:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: a source for trail names and locations in Ohio is included in this old source:Unfortuanely, google neglected to scan the big map that seems to have been on pages 262-263 of this journal. Roseohioresident (talk) 01:01, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: building a list of sources - southeastern Indian trails 

message: Shouldn't this be page renamed something like "Amerindian trail networks"? The Algonguin may have called their  section(s) the Great Trail, citation needed, but another people presumably would not and Google searches for "great trail amerindian" and "great trail indian"  turn up nothing reputable. The network certainly existed and far beyond the two peoples named in this article, unfortunately I think someone would first have to write the source they would need to use to get this page where it should be. We can fix that name though
: Strange thing is, in Ohio, people have restricted "Great Trail" to that path between Pittsburgh and Detroit, with other trails having their own names. A list of the various names was printed in 1900 here:   The photo displayed at Great Trail illustrates this idea. "Amerindian Trail Networks" seems kind of pedantic, although a logical title like "Great Indian Trail" is probably more hassle than its worth. Roseohioresident (talk) 00:57, 2 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: rename 

message: Substituted at 16:40, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment