Talk:Sour cereal soup

message: Well, I lack the linguistic skills on this issue. But what I mean is: Slavic Countries in the north of Europe. By this I mean Poland, Slovakia, Belarus etc. as opposed to southern nations such as those in the Balkans. Perhaps you can device a more apt English term for "innych Słowian północnych."
I renamed the page per West Slavs despite Belarus. Kaihsu (talk) 08:24, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Northern Slavic Nations

message: Well, nowadays the soup is eaten with hard boiled eggs not only in Podlasie but rather all around country. It just depends whether you like eggs or not.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.205.253.136 (talk) 09:17, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with this observation: hard-boiled eggs in żur are quite common now across Poland. -Krasnoludek (talk) 21:09, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Hard boiled eggs

message: ChildofMidnight has proposed merging Żur śląski with this article.
*Agree. Żur śląski is a regional Polish variant of żur, a.k.a. sour rye soup. The variant primarily differs in the method of serving, but does not have significant cultural importance or significance in contrast to regular żur to merit a standalone article. The two articles are also rather short and stand to remain that way. Furthermore, the Polish WP has a redirect from Żur śląski to żur, suggesting that even for the native culture this distinction isn't strong enough to merit separate articles. I would merge the content of Żur śląski into a subsection of the Poland section, as a regional variant. -Krasnoludek (talk) 16:54, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal with Żur śląski 

message: After talking with my cooking friends from Poland and Czech Republic I finally decided to remove my informations about kyselo to the separate article. Because kyselo is really different from żurek (using sourdough instead soured rye flour and taste based on mushrooms and caraway not meat). Krakonosovo (talk) 17:08, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed and . I've used the suggested new title for the merged article, there being no better suggestions in over a year. Klbrain (talk) 22:30, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Żurek vs. Kyselo 

message: Separate articles for each soup were better. Look at the separate article for "żur" - it's available in 18 languages. Used to be available in English. Then some very bright genius decided to make this article. Why? There are plenty of other examples on wikipedia where similar meals aren't merged but each have their own article LordParsifal (talk) 09:16, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was this article made? 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 (talk) 17:00, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: West Slavic fermented cereal soups →  – Polish "żurek" is translated by most sources as "sour rye soup" and an analogous name is used by Dutch Wikipedia. However, as this article refers to multiple variations of the soup, including ones prepared with other cereals such as oats or wheat, I think the name sour cereal soup should be applied instead. I would not include "Slavic" in the name let alone "West Slavic", as not only is this soup known among non-Western Slavs like Belarusians, but a similar one is prepare in Romania and Moldova where it is known as bors. The plural form of the article name is also confusing, and the article itself has significant issues being composed of multiple older articles fused together. Von Sprat (talk) 15:19, 2 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Alternatively the article could be instead renamed żur, żurek or zhur based on WP:PRIMARYTOPIC: such a name is used in both Polish and Belarusian of which the dish is a part of both national cuisines, while kyselo, the most detailed of the articles merged into this one, is only a regional dish. As such, either this option or sour cereal soup/sourdough soup would suffice rather than the current name. Von Sprat (talk) 20:30, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm okay with either, 'Sour cereal soup' or some variation of zhur(ek)—blindlynx 15:44, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 2 April 2024