Talk:Vanilla Ninja

message: Look,people,this section looks like it was definately written from a strong point of view (an angry fan):
"Then somebody went and registered the name at the Patent Office, as a trade-mark.
After the girls quit from BROS Music (following the Chart Scandel in 2005, where David Brandes had bought his own CDs to lift up chart positions for Gracia and Vanilla Ninja), David Brandes systematically tried to destroy the group and the fanship. In which he did not succeed thanks to the great co-operation of fans, blocking each new attempt."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sloba (talk • contribs) 21:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name Problems 

message: I've completely written this. I think its fairly complete. Hedley 19:21, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article 

message: This article was on peer review from the 1st to 4th of June, 2005. The review can be seen at Wikipedia:Peer review/Vanilla Ninja/archive1. Hedley 23:54, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review 

message: I'm always confused about this - Vanilla Ninja is...  or Vanilla Ninja are..? I'd say 'are', because we are referring to the band members. I don't know.. If they were called Vanilla Ninjas, it would def be are.
This is an American/UK English thing (see elsewhere in Wikipedia).  I think it goes like: UK say "the Team are X, Y and Z" American "the Team is X, Y and Z".  Your choice.
:Since it's a Germanic language we're questioning, maybe the German itself will help. In German the Team (die Mannschaft) is in the singular and carries the singular verbal conjugation (die Mannschaft ist), whereas the Teams (die Mannschaften) would carry plural conjugation (die Mannschaften sind). I'm afraid for once the Americans might be right.Billy P 1 July 2005 19:31 (UTC)
::Why are we looking at the German usage exactly? Vanilla ninja are/is popular in a lot of German-speaking countries, true, but this is an Estonian band we are talking about. Estonian is not Germanic—it's not even Indo-European—and if I'm guessing correctly, the conjugation for "to be" is the same for "it is" and "they are" (on for both). And it is not clear why we're looking at non-English usage in an English-language Wikipedia in the first place. --Iceager 09:55, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to clarify for those at home, is and are are based on numbers, as in, how many "objects" you're talking about. For example, let's say we're talking about....chairs. If there is one chair, you would say "That chair is...." However, if there are many chairs, you would say "Those chairs are..." This particular instance, however, is special. You see, ninja is a Japanese word, and Japanese has no plural form. The word "ninja" is used to represent both one and many ninja, and it has always been my feeling that this carries over when porting words from language to language. So you would say "Look at that ninja!" or "Look at those ninja!" as opposed to "Look at those ninjas!" That said, the band's name itself is not a viable source for validation of it...plurality? Whatever. Anyway, my point is that, due to the ambiguous nature of the band's name, that we treat it as a singular, as though we were reffering to the ONE group itself, the single entity composed of the many band members, as opposed to the band members individually (isn't that why they give themselves a group name, anyway?) IE: We would say "Vanilla Ninja is a good band." as opposed to "Vanilla Ninja are a good band." (Now, if there were a preceeding "The" (ie the band's name was "The Vanilla Ninja" then that would be another story alltogether...) SuperKawaiiNeko 13:57, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  is or are 

message: The article as it currently stands has a bunch of typos (similiar, Apparantely, inparticularly); inconsistent use of capitalization (Gothic vs. gothic); missing apostrophes (the groups first slow, soft); wording fumbles (bought many copies of were the groups; The video begun). At the very least, someone should run a spellcheck on it. (Probably not the time now, with the current flurry of edits/vandalism. But at some point.) –Hajor 1 July 2005 15:23 (UTC)
::If this band is in any way Gothic then Ice Cube is Ska and Motley Crue is polka.76.181.251.199 (talk) 12:42, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Spit & Polish

message: Hello there, I just made a few edits to this article, but I have a few questions I'd like addressed. Mostly, I'm very curious as to where the information in this article comes from since the reference section is so poor. This article is full of information, but a lot of it is not mentioned at all in the sources. Where is it from? Páll 09:22, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: I think the intro is a little difficult to read given the inclusion of the dates of birth.  I think it might be better to place them into a section later on, so that the lead paragraph flows better.  violet/riga (t) 14:14, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro DOBs 

message: Hajor made an edit, with the summary containing the question "what is a kohuke?". While this is quite not the right talk page for this, it is the only one I can think of (since it's the only article linking to kohuke). Basically, kohuke is a sweet made from cottage cheese (that's what a dictionary says the Estonian word kohupiim is in English). I don't know if there's an English equivalent to it or not. PeepP 22:22, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for the information. –Hajor 22:30, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kohuke 

message: I really think there should be a mention about how the video for Cool Vibes actually comprised of modified footage of the video for Mindmachine by German cult-band Deine Lakaien.
check it out here: --83.118.141.133 13:47, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  plagiarism 

message: === Response to evaluation and comments ===
Thanks for the quick evaluation that I asked for.
Lead: I've moved the final sentence to a more appropriate position; I don't think there's much I can expand upon right now, though
Comprehensiveness: Possibly, but not being in Germany or Estonia I can't really do anything on this
Pictures: "Fair use rationales"? I think the claims for fair use seem pretty reasonable
Audio: I don't think we can upload it; It's copyrighted and the only reason it's linked is because the site being linked to has permission
References: I think the references are pretty good as is; Inline citations aren't mandatory, and a lot of the references are in German so it's not a feasible option
Discography: The Estonian charts aren't archived online, and until Hitparade.ch expand a bit further I can't see them being anytime soon; Thus I can't locate the positions —Preceding unsigned comment added by Esteffect (talk • contribs) 
:The pictures need fair use rationales. Please read Wikipedia:Image_description_page#Fair_use_rationale for more information. Inline citations are now a requirement for featured articles. The standards has changed since the article was promoted. If this doesn't get fixed within reasonable time, the article may again be put up for FA removal. --Maitch 12:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured Music Project evaluation 

message: Thanks for the quick evaluation that I asked for.
Lead: I've moved the final sentence to a more appropriate position; I don't think there's much I can expand upon right now, though
Comprehensiveness: Possibly, but not being in Germany or Estonia I can't really do anything on this
Pictures: "Fair use rationales"? I think the claims for fair use seem pretty reasonable
Audio: I don't think we can upload it; It's copyrighted and the only reason it's linked is because the site being linked to has permission
References: I think the references are pretty good as is; Inline citations aren't mandatory, and a lot of the references are in German so it's not a feasible option
Discography: The Estonian charts aren't archived online, and until Hitparade.ch expand a bit further I can't see them being anytime soon; Thus I can't locate the positions —Preceding unsigned comment added by Esteffect (talk • contribs) 
:The pictures need fair use rationales. Please read Wikipedia:Image_description_page#Fair_use_rationale for more information. Inline citations are now a requirement for featured articles. The standards has changed since the article was promoted. If this doesn't get fixed within reasonable time, the article may again be put up for FA removal. --Maitch 12:55, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Response to evaluation and comments 

message: No, there's three. Triinu left in 2005. Esteffect 22:43, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Four members 

message: *Swiss Broadcasting Corporation website: Eurovision sub-site () — This link is down for quite some time now; replaced with current one, also with better style.
-Mardus 04:55, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: It is not an official fanclub, nor is approved by the Ninjas. A link to its homepage and forum would be enough. No need for a section about it. It sounds more like an advertisement. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.237.158.71 (talk) 22:32, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  VN-Linn fanclub 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Kivi-v-kivilaan.jpg

message: :Image:Vanilla ninja-best of a.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Vanilla ninja-best of a.jpg

message: I faintly remember discussions that they couldn't play ANY of their instruments, and that even the credits on their 2006 "Love Is War" album were fake, and both guitars and keyboards were entirely played by studio musicians. Which of all this is actually true? -andy 2.242.148.30 (talk) 20:38, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who of the band can actually play their instruments? 

message: In the German wiki and here, the band was active until 2008. But no official breakup of the Band is known. In 2010, the played as "Vanilla Ninja". Any sources on the breakup? Saemikneu (talk) 09:43, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breakup?