Talk:Étienne Brûlé

message: The article is a good start focused only on French influence on the North American continent, but considering he is a major figure in the former Nouvelle France, more is needed.  Here are some ways to improve the article:
* Say more on his interactions with the Anishinaabe peoples (trade, negotiations, expeditions, etc.)
* Much more needs to be said about his trade and diplomatic negotiations with the Wendat peoples.
* More on the background of his youth that leads him to travel to New France would be helpful.
* Brûlé adopted many customs such as rarely eating salt and that wild greens must be boiled before being eating except in situations where this wasn't possible.
* How (or assumed how) did Brûlé die?  A discussion of the uncertainty would be helpful.
* After his death, how did he become an active character in not only the Canadian cultural identity, but also the Great Lakes cultural identity of the United States?
* Citation, citation, citation
* Break up into sections for ease of reading the article.
Please cross off the list as they have been completed. Thanks. CJLippert 21:00, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
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message: I'm wondering about the last sentence about Etienne Brule. He was eaten by the Hurons?
If whoever wrote that could give me a source for that information I'd appreciate it.
:It was User:Maury Markowitz - I wrote the original article, and I just said he was killed by the Hurons. I'm not sure where Maury got the info that he was eaten. Adam Bishop 22:07, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
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message: As part of Wendat war rituals, prisoners would be tortured to death and the body parts being cut off would sometimes be eaten by the people attending the "ceremony". For example, relatives of the warriors that the prisoner had killed in battle would cut off a finger or an ear and eat it in front of the victim. As part of the ritual, the captive would be asked to sing his adonwé (a kind of a courage song) while the warriors would tear off his nails, cut his fingers, burn his skin all over, cut off parts of his body and eventually decapitate him.
There is evidence that the normal ritual was not performed on Brûlé after he was taken prisoner by a group of Wendat warriors. If we believe the history as it was reported at the time, Brûlé was found (by his children) crucified on a wooden cross at spring. Part of his chest on the heart's side was open.
That's what I know. If I can find the original source of this info, I will post it here. -- Mathieugp 19:28, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  On Brûlé being eaten after his death by torture 

message: Étienne Brûlé was a Frenchman employed by Samuel de Champlain to establish friendly Native American relations in parts of the North American interior, which is now present-day Canada. In the year 1632, an Native American tribe caught him robbing the grave of a sacred burial ground. Members of the tribe then proceeded to kill him and eat parts of his remains to avenge the atrocity. This instance is referred to as one of the many examples of excessive European interference with Native Americans, which resulted in disaster.
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Cited from History Textbook: 
Liberty, Equality, Power
--utter nonsense with zero documented sources.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.31.4.9 (talk) 08:25, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copied from the [[Brule]] disambiguation page 

message: A living relative of Étienne Brule claims that Étienne's death is still a mystery, and therefore warrants investigation.
:Can you provide a source for that claim?  --Merovingian {T C @} 03:00, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Just so you know

message: 00:15, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Your the best 

message: I have now seen three versions of what happened to him, he was killed and eaten, the was killed and buried, and he was killed on a cross. The reasons are equally varied. Most external sources I can find state that he was "killed for unknown reasons" after a quarrel, there is nothing about his capture by the Seneca, and the provided reference doesn't seem to say anything.
I'd recommend all of this be removed unless someone has a good reason not to. 
Maury 22:41, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  His death 

message: I overhauled the paragraphs on his death into a full section that discusses the controversy and mysteries surrounding it. My research opened up quite a rabbit hole that could easily lend itself to conspiracy, but I kept everything published grounded to only university-backed texts. I included a more concise version of the original paragraph (which cites the cannibalism story), but also included counterpoints. This is important because my research sourced this gruesome story exclusively to Gabriel Sagard, despite none of Brûlé's immediate contemporaries nor ethnographic studies into the Wendat people acknowledging the Bear clan as practicers of cannibalism. I'm hoping at the very least Canadian kids working on their social studies projects will have a more rounded understanding of the many viewpoints and mysteries surrounding this interesting character's end of days! OddlyOaktree (talk) 06:38, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated Death Section - October, 2020

message: It appears that the link to Huronia (Section "Life in New France", first paragraph, third sentence, and second paragraph, second sentence) links to a mollusk, not a town.  Huronia, the town, may have been on the Penetanguishene peninsula, where there are current references to such a community.  Even if no new link to a town is created, the current link should be removed from the article.  ClaymoreWW (talk) 17:36, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huronia 

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thread_title:  What did he eat?