Talk:The Bailey

message: To clarify the archived vote on this subject, after a couple of vote changes and non-standard completion of the voting form (such as expressing an opinion in the discussion without submitting a clear vote), there was no overall agreement, the results being 50/50:
For
*DWaterson
*sjorford
*Robdurbar
Against
*KingStrato
*TSP
*RPC
:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was don't move. —Nightstallion (?) 08:27, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Results

message: :Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
* I'd say support - although Bailey is often used as a name for the whole area, it can also just refer to the street(s) and the adjacent colleges. The name Peninsula is just as common, and less ambiguous, as it always refers to the whole area, Bailey, Palace Green, Castle, Cathedral and all. — sjorford (talk) 22:14, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Voting

message: :Isn't a bailey often used to refer to the hill or mound that a castle is built on?  I've never hear anyone use peninsula to refer to the area that the castle is on. I'd tend to use peninsula for a headland, rather than a patch of land surrounded by a horseshoe-shaped river.Sbird 08:38, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  yes, that's the normal usage.  But nobody in Durham uses "bailey" to mean the castle mound, nobody in Durham uses "peninsula" to refer to the peninsula area, and pretty much everyone in Durham uses 'the bailey' to refer to the peninsula area.  Stevekeiretsu 12:41, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, but those are the two names it Durham. I think 'Bailey' is used for the area around a castle keep, part of which is now this land. 'Peninsula' is used in this context somewhat figuratively due to the geography of Durham Robdurbar 09:10, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't it be useful to have a map of the relevant area in this article?  While those of us who have spent time in Durham are clear on the reasons for the name, people coming to this article may not find it so easy. MrTrev 00:29, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I've had a search for one, or an overhead photo ; Im unclear about the copyright rules on maps though Robdurbar 00:45, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
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message: Shouldn't this article mention the congestion charge zone? 213.249.235.86 09:58, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Congestion charge? 

message: I think the title of this article is hopelessly confusing. It is not clear whether it refers to the peninsula as a whole or specifically to North and South Bailey. To say that some people refer to the whole peninsula as the Bailey is to miss the point that the name Bailey is ambiguous, whereas calling it The Peninsula is not. I think the article about the peninsula should be located at The Peninsula, Durham. If we have an article called The Bailey, it should be specifically about North Bailey and South Bailey, because that is what the average person would expect (principle of least surprise). And the claim made above that everyone in Durham calls the peninsula the Bailey  is a claim that cannot be supported by editors asserting they live in Durham, as such assertions cannot be verified. For all we know editors who claim they live in Durham might actually live in Timbuktu or Vladivostock. It also happens to be WP:OR. I don't see any reliable sources saying this is the normal name. Reliable publications like Margot Johnson's seem to generally call it the peninsula or the Durham peninsula etc. James500 (talk) 02:31, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
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