Talk:Nambiar

message: Until and unless you are not clear about something DONT DELETE the article. If you dont know or heard about Nambiars (associated with Koodiyattam and Chakyar Koothu) try to know about them. Go and refer something about Kerala castes.Nambiar is not the sole caste name of Nair sect. Ambalavasi Nambiars ( Kunchan Nambiar, PK Narayanan Nambiar (MIzhavu maestro) etc well known Nambiars) are uppercaste people in Ambalavasi sect. They are not mingled with Nair Nambiars. And its ridiculuos to say that they had adopted their name from Nair sect. As a matter of fact, Ambalavasi Nambiars are considered (all ambalavasi's) much above Nair Nambiar sect. So dont edit something until and unless you are sure!
Sreekanthv 05:15, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ambalavasi Nambiar

message: What is this thing about menons and nambiars being of different racial origin? no idea abt nambiars but menon is a sthanaperu...it is the highest nair title derived from menavan or melevan meaning upper officer or scribe....besides i am an unnithan and as the article for unnithans rigtly states, unnithans are considered smanathans only because of their descent from royal palaces like thampis..yes like nambiars they also dodnot touch or marry ambalavasis either and neither do they marry nairs like menons, pillais etc...
but i have absolute belief that unnithans and valiathans are not of aryan origin or anything as also the nambiars...that is just nonsense....give me some historical evidence to prove that nambiars came from outside....we south keralaites always learnt that nambiars were special soldiers of namboodiris and hence they attained a status above nairs...manu
Hello! Please sign your comments! I would like to ask what exactly are samantha kshatriyas?220.238.147.170 10:53, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NONSENSE 

message: well according to Manu "samanthans or samantha kshatriyas are those nair communities who have a position above ambalavasis and are descended from royal houses" some or all nambiars are samanthan kshatriyas as the houses of my mother Kalliat and Kodoth (Nambiar houses) both are descended from the Nileshwaram Rajah, Great- Grandpop was the son of the last Rajah, and many Nambiar clans are known from anecdotal evidence to intermarry with royal kshatriyas and no other community, well some houses married brahmins, till the as late as generation x where other nairs were also intermarried with. Also the indo-aryan link is a reasonable possibility simply from the fact that the absence of intermarriage with non-rajah/nambiars for as long as we remember until only my Moms generation (x). Why would they consider themselves superior and not intermarry with other nairs?. My dad is a central keralan menon or pillai (not sure)from north palakkad/kozhikode and the family wasnt pleased at the marriage initially cos he was a lower non-nambiar even though he is related to the samoothiris. Also the phenotypical evidence i've experienced as south/central Keralites tend to be darker and more dravidian looking which ive noticed going as far as Thrissur from Kanhangad which can be seen in the Nairs there as well after all as Nair is only a caste which was assigned. I mean my own family like my dad despite being relatively light skinned is a the poster boy for dravidians whereas my mum looks like a typical punjabi and people in her family exhibit light eyes (rare) and are generally lighter skinned and more north indian looking then dads family. Its possible nambiars accompanied the namboothiris hence the variation or similarity of the name to nambiar and were assigned into the highest nair caste and adopted local traditions and language over time like the namboothiris, and since nambiars have not mixed over many centuries they definately would be genetically different to other nairs who are mixed or composed of different groups. Also nambiars obviously have unique traditions not found in other nair communties and nambiars obviously came down the coast whereas central/south keralan nairs probably migrated from Tamil Nadu from the east. 58.107.19.201 16:15, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nambiar's as samantha kshatriya?