Talk:Cork (city)

message: What happened to the temperature cells in the weather table?--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 02:40, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  boluxed weather table 

message: To Cork, County Cork.--RM (Be my friend) 02:26, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You're perhaps referring to the traditional county. If you'l read the respective articles, you'll discover that by law their territories were changed. Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:33, 26 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I am, didn't think that needed clarification. Gob Lofa (talk) 03:19, 18 February 2015 (UTC)

text: County Cork does not have a "capital". If you mean, "Where is the head office of the county council located?", then yes, it happens to be in the city. However, Cork County Council has no jurisdiction in the city because it is not part of the legal county. The city has its own geographic limits which stand outside the county. Laurel Lodged (talk) 14:15, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: So perhaps I should have used the word County_town then  where Cork city is the county town for Cork county or described it as the main town of the county. I don't think it can be suggested that Cork city isn't in Cork county because they have separate councils.   🍺  Antiqueight confer 02:43, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not the existence of the 2 councils per se that give rise to the exclusion of the city from the county. Rather it is the legislation and the maps defining the limits of the county and the city that give rise to the exclusion. Of course the establishment of the 2 councils occurred in the same piece of legislation. It's the law (from London) that set up the counties and the law (from Dublin) that amended their boundaries. They have no existence apart from the law with the exception of social clubs such as the GAA. Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:41, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested name change 

message: Given the absence of an edit summary, it's not clear what the rationale was for a recent edit which removed all but one cat from this article. Given that only the eponymous cat remains, it may be that the change was driven by a attempt to simplify the cats. However, per WP:EPON, this isn't how this is supposed to work:
:an article should not be excluded from any set category on the grounds that its eponymous category is made a "subcategory" of that category
Unless there was some other driver, I'll therefore likely revert this change under WP:EPON. Guliolopez (talk) 22:27, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories/EPON 

message: Just a thought - In the section about sports (other sports), the American Football team isn't mentioned.  I don't know enough about it to write anything myself at the moment, but maybe someone else does? 159.134.11.112 (talk) 22:58, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sports 

message: You've either got the wrong king or the wrong year, there.TheNusz (talk) 05:42, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Answered at Talk:History of Cork#"Cork's city charter was granted by King John of England in 1185.". Piped 'Prince John' for 'King John', and ref'd. RashersTierney (talk) 10:00, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "King John granted the city its charter in 1185"? 

message: I've noticed that older speakers of the Cork accent tend to be variably or semi-rhotic, often pronouncing the R is one word and not in another, I will try and source this an add it to the article. 195.162.87.201 (talk) 15:47, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cork Accent over 50 years old speakers 

message: Hi. In a recent series of edits a lot of additional content has been added. Which is great. But a lot of it appears to be uncited. And includes some commentary that appears to reflect the editor's opinion rather than a cited reliable source.
I have particular concerns about edits which added POV descriptions where none previously existed. This is especially problematic without cites. ("high quality dual carriageway" - high quality under what standard?, "highly populated western suburbs" - highly populated compared to what/where?, etc). Why do we even need this commentary? Stick to the facts.
Also there was a lot of content added about telecoms. In my view this content is far too extensive for a high-level article about the city (does a reader interested in the city really care about provision of ADSL2+ over VDSL2 broadband services?). And also there are very limited references provided to back-up these sections. 
Unless these issues can be addressed independently then I will see about removing the POV assertions (perhaps restoring the previous), and significantly summarising the telecom stuff (to remove the extensive detail and uncited stuff). Other thoughts? Guliolopez (talk) 18:44, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Have reverted. If someone adds information they are meant to cite a source, we could tag each peice or header them, but the burden is on the editor who adds. Murry1975 (talk) 23:00, 28 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commentary and references 

message: In a series of recent edits, we seem to have gained 2 sub-sections in the Culture section. I really don't think we need these. They are redundant to existing copy and seem to have been added purely as a buffer around some new material. A (broader range) of Cork musical contributors (from RTÉ Vanbrugh to Gallagher to Sultans) are already covered just a few lines above. As is the Cork Film Festival. Unless there are other thoughts or objections, I will probably just merge the new content (such as it is) into the existing material. Guliolopez (talk) 20:47, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: There doesn't seem to be any other thoughts (or objections) to merging the new stuff into the existing content (and excising the redundant/duplicated/uncited content), so I've gone ahead and made the changes. (and also reviewed some of the other subjective/commentary content in the section)  Guliolopez (talk) 15:14, 21 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Culture sub-sections 

message: *Does anyone think/believe an article on the North Main Street should be created as it is one of the oldest streets in Cork just like Shandon Street and has alot of History involved with it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by IrishJ123 (talk • contribs) 
** This has been created, and moved to North Main Street (Cork). power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:29, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: North Main Street 

message: Should information about recent archaeological discoveries in Cork be added to this article?https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/viking-centre-discovered-in-cork-city-predates-waterford-settlement-1.3350654? and https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/1-000-year-old-viking-sword-found-at-cork-beamish-site-1.3234406?TMN81 (talk) 14:47, 13 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. A very short note (no more than a single sentence) may be appropriate in the opening of the History section on this Cork (city) article. ("As evidenced by 21st century excavations[ref][ref], blah blah"). However, a slightly shorter note (perhaps a sentence of two) may be appropriate in the Origins section of the History of Cork article. I can take a stab if you like. At both if needed. Guliolopez (talk) 16:45, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Viking site  

message: Hello,
I am the original uploader of the picture of Patrick Street. After looking at it again, I think it is really poor due to the amount of cars, furniture and hoarding (due to road works) in the way. It also only really focusses on the top of one or two buildings and it was a really dull day. Today I decided to retake a picture of the same shot but at a much wider angle, allowing for the actual street and much more buildings to be seen. It is a lot brighter and gives a better understanding of the street then my original picture. Should I replace the one in use on the page with this one?
:File:Patrick Street, Cork, January 2018.jpg DylanGLC2017 (talk) 00:36, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine with me. Guliolopez (talk) 10:13, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Patrick Street picture 

message: Looking over the discussions on the image of the English Market, I got the feeling people thought it wasn’t really appropriate but will do for what is available. To fix this, I have taken this picture of the Grand Parade entrance to the English Market, arguably more ‘iconic’/notable than the Prince’s Street entrance (at least in the pictures available on Commons). Sadly, those parking spaces outside seem to be full all day, so it is nearly impossible to get a picture of the façade without them there, but they shouldn’t be an issue.
The picture:
:File:English Market, Grand Parade, Cork, 2018.jpg
 DylanGLC2017 (talk) 16:28, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd argue that it's better to have a photo of the interior rather than the entrance, in which case I would consider the Prince's Street market much more notable - certainly it's where I see everyone taking their pictures, although usually a bit further inside than in the montage. The other option from the Prince's Street side would be a photo from upstairs looking down toward the fountain. In any case, the time to find those parking spaces empty would probably be a summer Sunday morning, maybe at about 7-8 a.m.? Bit of a wait but if you want good light and empty spaces that'd be the time. ~ Maltrópa loquace 16:43, 29 January 2018 (UTC)

text: Although, it occurs to me, the fact that it's closed on a Sunday would defeat the point... ~ Maltrópa loquace 18:03, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Per , I expect the interior one is more representative (and the Princes Street Market hall/fountain significantly more photographed - if geotagging evidence is anything to go by) than the Grand Parade gates. In any event, as noted, all other images in the montage are of exteriors/streets. Having one from an interior would likely be desirable. (Otherwise its all building facades). Guliolopez (talk) 20:30, 29 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  English Market Picture in Montage 

message: The opening sentence of this article is misleading:
"Cork ... is the second largest city in Ireland"
It is not. Cork is the second largest city in the  Republic of Ireland, however, in Ireland as a whole Belfast is the second largest city. 
The article either needs to be changed to emphasise Cork's status as the second largest city in the republic, or it needs to be stated that it is the third largest city in Ireland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_settlements_on_the_island_of_Ireland_by_population
John2o2o2o (talk) 14:00, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. The current wording is consistent with WP:IRE-IRL. In that, while the term "Ireland" can refer to the state and the island, as Ireland is the official and common name of the state, that is the label generally used. With a piped link when needed. There are some exceptions. Like, for example, when the island and state are discussed the same context. Or, when both jurisdictions are discussed in the same context. Neither of which really applies here. Guliolopez (talk) 17:08, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, I used the piping when I added Cork was the third largest. I actually had not read this talk page, I had just been on the Derry page where it used to same convention of 2nd largest in the country fourth on the island. I guessed at the 2nd largest in the republic, but it didn't mention the island, which I added.Halbared (talk) 10:44, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading assertion about size of Cork 

message: I was very surprised that there isn't a dedicated "Transport in Cork" page like Transport in Dublin. What gives? Ridiculopathy (talk) 20:07, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. I guess that, as Cork has no canals (like the Royal or Grand), light rail (like the Luas), electric commuter (like the DART), planned metro (like MetroLink), dedicated bus provider (like Dublin Bus), dedicated bike scheme (like Dublinbikes) or what-have-you, there's less to be said. What is to be said is covered in Cork Suburban Rail, Cork proposed light rail, Port of Cork and similar. Hanging these all together via an overarching "Transport in Cork" article would potentially result in more than a little overlap/duplication. And contain little more than already covered in Cork (city)#Transport. (A summary with some "see main" type links.) Personally, I think a stand-alone article on "BusConnects" (covering the projects/proposals in Cork, Dublin, Galway and Limerick) is likely more "in demand" than one which focuses purely on "buses/bikes/etc in Cork" (alone). For what it's worth... Guliolopez (talk) 23:29, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. I agree, an article on "BusConnects" is probably better. Thanks, Ridiculopathy (talk) 09:55, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool. Probably fodder for user-talk, but I'd be delighted to collaborate on one? (We could create a draft and get it to a reasonable state before promoting/linking from the Cork (city)#Transport section...) Guliolopez (talk) 10:48, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi @Guliolopez, that would be good. I've never collaborated on creating a page before, and don't know the process. Regards, Ridiculopathy (talk) 17:15, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. There's no mad science to it. I'll create an initial draft and ping you on your talk page from there. Guliolopez (talk) 15:35, 15 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Transport in Cork]] 

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