Talk:Mount Wellington (Tasmania)

message: Hobartians - is that really appropriate? SatuSuro 02:29, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: 'It is not popularly known that the nearest permanent human settlement directly west of the very pinnacle of the mountain, is 11,000 kilometres away, in Chile'
What atlas are we using here? Has Argentina ceased to exist? This needs to be cited or deleted.
:I've removed it - the best reference I could find was Answers.com, which appeared to have come from Wikipedia anyway. --Scott Davis Talk 13:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If it is true, it's referring to permanent settlements. Otherwise you're not just forgetting Argentina, but the rest of Tasmania west of the mountain as well!--Just James T/C 12:12, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nearest permanent settlement 

message: There have been a couple of single-purpose accounts recently adding emotive/biased content into the paragraph about the current cable car proposal.  If people wish to introduce further changes to this paragraph please suggest them here on the talk page first. -- Chuq (talk) 13:19, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current cable car proposal 

message: Do people think it is appropriate to rename this article to kunanyi / Mount Wellington?  I notice signs (such as at the pinnacle) have been changed, but also the road sign such as when leaving the Southern Outlet has been modified (rather awkwardly - with giant brackets).
All names have benefits:
*kunanyi / Mount Wellington is the official name
*Mount Wellington is the most common name
*kunanyi doesn't require disambiguation
I'm not suggesting one name over the other but it is worth having the discussion.
See also List of dual place names in New Zealand. -- Chuq (talk) 06:04, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: no, the only name is Mount Wellington, the other names no one will know. Kunanyi has had 3 hits in the last 3 months, whereas the curent name has 7150 hits in the same time. We often ignore official names as titles as they are not the WP:commonname as our policy requires.Redirects are OK. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 06:52, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding the hit counts, are they from internal links or actual typed search teams (from Google or WP?) given the redirect from kunanyi didn't exist until yesterday, I'm not surprised. WP:COMMONNAME does make sense though, for now.  Maybe in the future.  (I notice Uluru is at the aboriginal name, rather than Uluru / Ayers Rock). -- Chuq (talk) 03:48, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Hobart City Council calls it "kunanyi / Mount Wellington", following the capitalization rules of palawa kani.  Still, WP:commonname would appear to apply, in my opinion.  Maybe the article could do with a "name" section or subsection? With references, of course. Pete "Moonah Hooner" AU aka --Shirt58 (talk) 09:08, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It may at least deserve a mention.  I'll re-word the intro! -- Chuq (talk) 12:10, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

text: You would need to provide some evidence that it is the common name. StAnselm (talk) 08:51, 20 October 2019 (UTC)

text: Lots of recent books still have just "Mt Wellington". Even The Mercury sometimes slips up and just has "Mt Wellington". So does ABC News. StAnselm (talk) 08:58, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  the ABC now refers to the mountain as kunanyi/Mount Wellington with respect to that very same cable car project as of 2021: , as does the Mercury:  Ljgua124 (talk) 02:52, 13 January 2022 (UTC)

text: Just checking back in on this, just last week The Mercury had the headline "Dale Eric Godfrey’s death at Mt Wellington to remain unsolved", and just yesterday, the Kidspot website had a piece on "3 weekend getaways an hour from your capital city" with just "Mount Wellington". So perhaps in recent news articles the dual name is predominant, but that is still not enough to displace "Mount Wellington" has the common name. We may need to wait a few more years to see how published books are handling it. StAnselm (talk) 22:25, 7 June 2020 (UTC)

text: I'd also note that kunanyi / Mount Wellington is universally seen on road signs and buses in the area. Poketama (talk) 03:12, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Page views update for last month: kunanyi:5 ; kunanyi / Mount Wellington 21  ; Mount Wellington (Tasmania): 3433. In the last year kunanyi has 57 hits. See https://pageviews.wmcloud.org/?project=en.wikipedia.org&platform=all-access&agent=user&redirects=0&start=2021-04-24&end=2022-04-23&pages=Kunanyi|Mount_Wellington_(Tasmania)|Kunanyi_/_Mount_Wellington. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 09:13, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

text: Yes, I'm inclined to agree. We still need to use WP:RM, though. StAnselm (talk) 14:00, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case, I'll get one started. Poketama (talk) 17:54, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dual naming 

message: Maybe the official elevation has changed, but my understanding is that the elevation of Mount Wellington is 1,271m rather than 1,269m.  
1,271 is quoted on Tasmap maps and publications, and on the Wellington Park site (http://www.wellingtonpark.org.au/faq/), and even in the weblink referenced in the article (although older versions of the site may have had a different figure).
121.223.161.89 (talk) 00:32, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Elevation 

message: There seems to be something to do with pushing an opinion or preference going on with references to Aboriginal words on this page. There is a heavy reliance on the Milligan publication. https://eprints.utas.edu.au/19369/1/1-1859-Dialects-Aboriginal-Tribes-Tasmania.pdf 
I've just had a look at it and whilst it does list the names Unghbanyahletta and Poorawetter it does not identify which language groups these names are from. Calling them the "real Aboriginal" names seems to be an opinion/preference rather than fact,and calling palawa kani "conlang" instead of it's name seems strange. 
Palawa kani is used across Tasmania in dual naming and it would make sense for it be called by its name rather than "conlang". Statements such as "Mount Wellington was originally referred by the original Tasmanian nations of the area as unghbanyahletta (or ungyhaletta), poorawetter (or ‘'pooranetere'’, also pooranetteri),[1] " should be edited to reflect the source they come from, eg two names (from unidentified language groups) recorded by Milligan for the moountain were unghbanyahletta (or ungyhaletta), poorawetter (or ‘'pooranetere'’, also pooranetteri),[1] Lindaseaborn (talk) 03:18, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  references to Aboriginal words