Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Birds/Archive 6

message: If anyone comes across phylogenetic studies regarding the following birds,
* Dulidae - Palmchat
* Ptilogonatidae - silky "flycatchers"
* Hypocoliidae - Hypocolius
let me know on my talk page, Dysmorodrepanis 21:30, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm fairly sure that those familes haven't been covered yet, but I'll have a look. Sabine's Sunbird  talk 22:02, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Those families/subfamilies are due to be covered in Volume 13, which is scheduled for release in 2008 (according to the HBW website). MeegsC 09:00, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For the record, I think one of the latest MolPhylEvol papers places the last with the Muscicapoidea. Dysmorodrepanis 23:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Songbird phylogeny papers

message: There's this paper:
*Simpson, George Gaylord (1975): Notes on variation in penguins and on fossil penguins from the Pliocene of Langebaanweg, Cape Province, South Africa. Annals of the South African Museum . Annale van die Suid-Afrikaanse Museum, 69 (4), 59-72
In it, a new genus Inguza is established. What are the museum collection numbers of the material assigned to it? Dysmorodrepanis 23:12, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: A tough one for all penguin fans

message: :Image:Oropendola costa rica.jpg I found this great image of an Oropendola on Flickr on a free lisence. Anyone have a guidebook to Central America, its from Costa Rica. It will be a better example for the taxobox once we know which one it is. Sabine's Sunbird  talk 02:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's quite a picture.  It's a Montezuma Oropendola, Psarocolius montezuma.  At least it's identical to the plate in Howell & Webb, and that species is found in CR.  —JerryFriedman 02:36, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thought it would be, its the same one I saw in Belize. Thanks! Man, it would be awesome to get a recording of the calls of these guys, they sounded so cool. Sabine's Sunbird  talk 03:01, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The song linked to at the article is pretty amazing.  I saw and heard these birds in Mexico, and though they weren't as good as the one in the recording, I still enjoyed it.  I agree that a recording of Wikipedia's own would be even better.  —JerryFriedman 04:30, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bird ID 

message: Can some confirm that I've captioned :Image:Curlews.jpg correctly, please? Andy Mabbett 07:33, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The front bird should be Whimbrel also. Eurasian Curlew image from same source is here. Dysmorodrepanis 12:20, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Andy Mabbett 12:33, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: European curlews

message: Need more info in the "ruby-throated hummingbird" article.
It gives only the very basics.
Zantaggerung 13:45, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Added some information on it. If there's anything else you think needs to be added, feel free to say, or to do so. Hey jude, don't let me down 15:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ruby-throated hummingbird

message: Hi, I've made a suggestion for this as there is no generally accepted common name for the species complex with the many subspecies having different names. I know it is not standard practice to have bird articles under scietific names but if you can think of a better idea please come and discuss on the talk page. cheers cheers,  Casliber | talk  |  contribs 03:29, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Reconsidered - see discussion on talk page. cheers,  Casliber | talk  |  contribs 06:45, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Funnily enough on IOC they have split off Rainbow Lorikeet T. moluccanus and Red-collared Lorikeet T. rubritorquis, leaving Coconut Lorikeet T. haematodus on [Worldbirdnames].... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Casliber (talk • contribs) 11:43, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move request:[[Rainbow Lorikeet]] to [[Trichoglossus haematodus]] 

message: Hi!  I thought you guys might want to help.  If anyone knows blackbirds (Turdus merula) well, could you assure me that the picture of a female up for featured picture status is, indeed, a T. Merula?  I love the picture, but looking at the page, I'm only convinced that people confuse their blackbirds.  Now, the photographer seems to know what he's talking about, but I want to be completely sure that the ID on the bird is correct.  The picture is at Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Turdus_Merula_female.  Thanks!  Enuja 04:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If this is a wild bird photographed in Germany then it must be T. merula, I'm happy with the ID Richard Barlow 07:46, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: me too jimfbleak 08:49, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: me too Dysmorodrepanis 11:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bird ID on featured picture candidate 

message: OK folks, I've set up a place to discuss options before I set up a disambig page for Orange-fronted Parakeet.....
Lemme know what you think. cheers,  Casliber | talk  |  contribs 23:47, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The case of the two [[Orange-fronted Parakeet]]s

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Anyone got a birds of Southern Africa book handy? This is a Tchagra, probably a Three-streaked Tchagra, that I photographed in Botswana. I haven't got my notes from then with me and I don't have my book either (both back in the UK) so, uh, help? Sabine's Sunbird  talk 11:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like a Three-streaked to me!  From what I can see in the photo, the bird appears to have a brown crown bordered with black... MeegsC 11:56, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: SASOL has Brown-crowned and Three-streaked as synonyms; if they have been split, what is the difference between them? Jimfbleak.talk.12:23, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to an explanation in the foreward in SASOL, it looks like Brown-crowned is the new IOC common name for the species while Three-streaked was the name commonly in use in SA before the latest IOC revisions.  However, I note that we have Brown-crowned and Three-streaked on our WP tchagra genus page with different specific names, so I may be way behind on taxonomic changes in the region! MeegsC 12:40, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like a Brown-crowned Tchagra (Tchagra australis) in the picture. It was also known as Three-streaked Tchagra in Southern Africa but the name was changed to conform with West and East African usage and to avoid confusion with the Three-streaked Tchagra (Tchagra jamesi) of north-east Africa. Tigershrike 15:10, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  I should have used the scientific rather than the common name in my posting, as I too thought it was Tchagra australis.  That's why old Linneas invented those scientific names, I guess!  Sorry for the confusion, SS. MeegsC 15:21, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tchagra ID

message: I note that a taxon author Hans von Boetticher is up for AfD. Jimfbleak.talk. 16:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  AfD 

message: Found this on Flickr, a Costa Rican bird taken at INBIO park () it may be an ovenbird or a antbird - in any event we are poorly represented in tropical American dull brown jobs photographically (as well as aricle-y), so it would be good to have an id on this fellow. Sabine's Sunbird  talk 23:22, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And why not a cotinga or a bristle-less tyrant flycatcher? And no doubt you'll tell me why this is impossible, but the birds this looks most like in Howell and Webb are the Catharus thrushes, though I don't think it's any of the species in H&W.  —JerryFriedman 05:22, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No I was actually more hoping than guessing. The extent of my Neotropical experience was 10 days in Belize and Guatemala where I saw no antbirds, no ovenbirds (except two woodcreepers, since they are now lumped). I guess I saw ovenbirds down in Argentina as a kid but that was years ago. Anyways, Catharus thrush is an excellent place to start looking. Cheers. Sabine's Sunbird  talk 06:59, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A ha. Maybe its a Clay-colored Robin. Sabine's Sunbird  talk 22:40, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree Vultur 02:35, 8 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Very nice.  I'm convinced.  Funny that I shouldn't have thought of CR's national bird.  —JerryFriedman 05:02, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

text:  I added this picture to the Costa Rica article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Vultur (talk • contribs) 23:06, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Neotropical bird ID