Talk:Tanka people

message: Tanka or Dan are not only living in Hong Kong. Should the title of this article changed to better reflect it? — Instantnood June 30, 2005 18:09 (UTC)
It would be better to call the page "Tanka" if you ask me.  I really do not like the boat people title and it is both inaccurate and confusing.  Let me encourage you to do whatever you want. Lao Wai 30 June 2005 19:04 (UTC)
What tongue does Tanka traditionally talk?
*The Tanka are supposed to speak a variant dialect of Cantonese that is distinct from other forms of Cantonese. That's from what I know but there is not much literature on the subject.
Explaination of the terms: 蜑家, 蛋家, 艇家, 水上人.
*蜑家 (Cantonese: daan6 ga1; pinyin: dànjiā) is a pejorative/derogatory term that means literally meaning "egg families" due to the half egg shape boats that were used by their forefathers. Surely this one means "vermin families"
*蛋家 (Cantonese: daan2 ga1; pinyin: dànjiā) is a pejorative/derogatory term meaning "vermin families".And this one means "egg familes"
*艇家 (Cantonese: teng5 ga1; pinyin: tǐngjiā) is a less insulting term since it literally means boat families.
*水上人 (Cantonese: seui2 seung5 yan4; pinyin: shuǐshàngrén) is the term they used for themselves and prefer to be called by since it has no negative connotations and literally means "people living on the water".
Abstrakt 21:33, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
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I'll be filling this article out with these sources.Amuel Gins (talk) 17:28, 29 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  sources on tanka people 

message: Parts of this article sound almost written by one of those "Bai Yue" nationalists... practically all southern Chinese have ancestry from the "non-Chinese people of southern China", but that doesn't make them any less "Chinese"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by AnAimlessRoad (talk • contribs) 15:12, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know where your getting this idea that this was written by a "Bai Yue" nationalist. The article makes clear that the tanka are a minority in southern China, and that they are a separate group from southern Han chinese, and separate from typical han cantonese. A "Bai yue" nationalist, would have done the opposite. He would have claimed Cantonese people are all actually descendants of the natives, non han chinese, and that the tanka and cantonese are the exact same people. Most sources do not indicate that, they indicate instead that the Tanka have heavier native ancestry than typical southern han chinese. Check all the sources yourselfAmuel Gins (talk) 02:03, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

text: The only thing that needs reworking is the fact that User:WarriorsPride6565 completely lobotomized the article by deleting random words from all over it.Amuel Gins (talk) 02:03, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
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message: See Talk:Tanka for a move discussion that affects this page's redirect/disamb. Note also:
* Farewell to Peasant China: Rural Urbanization and Social Change in ... - Page 75 Gregory Eliyu Guldin - 1997 "In Dongji hamlet, most villagers were originally shuishangren (boat people) [Also known in the West by the pejorative label, "Tanka" people. — Ed.] and settled on land only in the 1950s. Per-capita cultivated land averaged only 1 mu ..."
* Sovereignty at the edge: Macau & the question of Chineseness - Page 354 Cathryn H. Clayton, Harvard University. Asia Center - 2010 "The seuiseuhng yahn, known more commonly by the pejorative term "tanka" have been described by one anthropologist as "a floating population" in the literal sense: living on their boats, the Cantonese seuiseuhng yahn specialized in fishing"
* Capitalism in contrasting cultures Stewart Clegg, S. G. Redding, Monica Cartner - 1990 "Both of these are referred to by ordinary Cantonese as 'Tanka', a highly pejorative word for which a number of improbable folk-etymologies are current; members of the community resent the term 'Tanka' and refer to themselves as 'Seui- ...
* Papers from the fourth and fifth annual meetings, Gypsy Lore ... Gypsy Lore Society. North American Chapter. Meeting, Joanne Grumet, Gypsy Lore Society. North American Chapter - 1985 "There has been for perhaps 1,500 years in the Cantonese-speaking areas of South China a group treated as pariahs, and known to history as the "Tanka". The word "Tanka" is now, however, a pejorative one, like "nigger" so I will henceforth ...
In ictu oculi (talk) 11:58, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
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message: Given that the thalassemia tests were done on the present-day Tanka population (data were not of Tankas from several hundred years back), and given that the article stated that there was/is a significant level of sexual relationship between Tanka women and Portuguese men for the past several hundred years, is it not more likely that the thalassemia genes in the present-day Tanka population are inherited from Portuguese ancestors (or other Mediterranean ancestors) rather than Yue/ Southern Chinese/ South-East Asian ancestors? 159.180.98.82 (talk) 01:42, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
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