Talk:Eusebius of Nicomedia

message: The beginning of the article states that Eusebius of Nicomedia died in 341, but under the heading "Death and aftermath," the year is given as 342.  Logan.allec (talk) 23:08, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made his date of death 341 throughout the article using the online source of the Catholic Encyclopedia.Coinmanj (talk) 23:17, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Year of Death Inconsistent in Article

message: The article states that "Arianism did not penetrate beyond the elite in society." Quite a few "Arian" theologians of various schools seem to have had lower-class origins, including Arius, Aëtius (theologian), George of Laodicea, Eunomius, Ulfilas, Philostorgius... Jacob Haller 04:26, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Arianism

message: In all fairness and neutrality, please allow the following sources to remain on the main page. Thank you.
See The Roman and British Martyrology. Publisher: O’Neill and Duggan, Dublin, 1846. 31st December, p. 427: "In Rome, the feast of St. Sylvester, pope, who baptized the Emperor Constantine, and confirmed the decrees of the Council of Nice." Also see The Roman Breviary, translated out of Latin into English by John, Marquess of Bute, K. T. Publisher: William Blackwood and Sons, Edinburgh and London, 1908. Vol. 1, Winter, Dec. 31: Pope St. Sylvester, Matins: Second Nocturn: Fourth Lesson, p. 307: "Silvester [I.] was a Roman by birth, and his father’s name was Rufinus. ... In his thirtieth year he was ordained Priest of the Holy Roman Church by Pope Marcellinus. In the discharge of his duties he became a model for all the clergy, and, after the death of Melchiades, he succeeded him on the Papal throne, [in the year of our Lord 314,] during the reign of Constantine, who had already by public decree proclaimed peace to the Church of Christ. ...It was Silvester who caused him [Emperor Constantine] to recognise the images of the Apostles, administered to him holy Baptism, and cleansed him from the leprosy..." and The Roman Breviary, translated out of Latin into English by John, Marquess of Bute, K. T. Publisher: William Blackwood and Sons, Edinburgh and London, 1908. Vol. 2, Summer, November 9: Dedication of the Cathedral Church of the Most Holy Saviour, at Rome, Matins: Second Nocturn: Fifth Lesson, pp. 1346-47: "But when the Emperor Constantine had by the Sacrament of Baptism received health both of body and soul, then first in a law by him published was it allowed to the Christians throughout the whole world to build Churches, to the which holy building he exhorted them by his example as well as by his decree. He dedicated in his own Lateran Palace a Church to the Saviour, and built hard by it a Cathedral in the name of St. John the Baptist, upon the place where he had been baptized by holy Silvester and cleansed from his leprosy." Also see the Liber Pontificalis for December 31 and the inscription on a side of the St. John Lateran obelisk at Rome which reads, "CONSTANTINUS PER CRUCEM VICTOR AS SILVESTRO HIC BAPTIZATUS CRUCIS GLORIAM PROPAGAVIT." (Della Letteratura Italiana, by Cesare Cantù. Publisher: Presso L’Unione Tipografico-Editrice, Torino, 1856. Chap. 5, §4, p. 338) CatholicCrusade2013 23:05, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Modern historians consistently say that Eusebius baptized Constantine, and the Catholic Encyclopedia says "On 22 May, 337 Constantine the Great died at Nicomedia, after having been baptized by Eusebius, bishop of the place." That encyclopedia is otherwise harshly critical of Eusebius, so is clearly not biased in his favor. Wikipedia articles should summarize what respected historians say. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 03:20, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Am I to understand that unless you are a "modern" historian your testimony is worthless? I am simply requesting that the well-held opinion of Sylvester's baptism be listed alongside what is written as "fact." That is how you present something neutrally. CatholicCrusade2013 19:50, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I am saying quite clearly that we prefer sources by modern academic historians to translations of centuries old devotional works. A source that claims a leprosy cure 1700 years ago is unreliable on the face of it. This is a secular encyclopedia. But we don't rule out high quality modern religious sources. I mentioned the Catholic Encyclopedia above, which is a much better source than those you listed. It agrees that Eusebius baptized Constantine. You should find a 20th or 21st century academic source that discusses both sides of the dispute. Then we would have a basis for adding the contrary point of view. But I assure you, not a single experienced editor will accept an inscription on the side of an obelisk in Rome as a reliable source. You've got to do much better than that. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 20:32, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opinion that Pope Sylvester I baptized Saint Constantine the Great

message: His denomination is listed as Eastern Orthodox, a church/denomination that would not become distinct for another 700 years. I'm going to change this to "Arian Christianity".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by PhilMiner (talk • contribs) 19:52, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Denomination" 

message: He is listed as Archbishop of Constantinople. This is like listing an Antipope as a Pope. Eusebius wasn't lawfully elected to the See and he was not received by the Bishops and the people in Constantinople
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.243.8.207 (talk • contribs) 20:07, 14 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You may not like how he became archbishop, but there seems little doubt he exercised the position for several years. In the meantime, don't edit-war. See WP:EW. And do use the edit summary to tell editors what you are doing, see WP:ES.  Tarl N. (discuss) 05:02, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Archbishop of Constantinople"