Talk:Harry Patch

message: "the last Tommy to fight in the trenches" Western Europe.  I have read several items stating William Young is a "Tommy" - What is the differance.  Would like to know. Thanks? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.244.188.174 (talk • contribs) 
:A tommy would be a british soldier rather than say french.Geni 10:16, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. Do we have a ref for Tommy? it is in Kipling I am pretty sure, which puts it late 19th century, but he never wrote it originally. My Collins says C19 orig. Thomas Atkins, name representing typical private in specimin forms. That is true I think, but it clues me to think it was a cartoon in Punch (magazine) and am trying to place it. I have a lot of books on WWI cartoons and would be well before that  but would probably trace back from there. SimonTrew (talk) 00:45, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is he the last Tommy, period? 

message: The article says he was awarded the Hors de combat for awarded for outstanding bravery of servicemen, but the article it links to it not about a decoration but "soldiers who are incapable of performing their military function" does anyone have further information or a reference to clarify this?— Rod talk 21:22, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK but why did you delete the citation supporting the MA from Uni of Bristol & working on building the Wills Tower?— Rod talk 18:36, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Just to clarify, it is a commemorative medal and my mistake was saying it was awarded as actually it is only what it signifies. It is not an official campaign medal as issued by the MoD medal office or foreign medals recognised by The Queen and shouldn't be worn at official functions (officially recognised medals go on the top row, and commemorative on the second row although Harry isn't strictly sticking to that when you look at his photos, if you want an example of how it is done look at bill stone). Saying that the Hors de Combat may well be recognised by a veterans association he may be a member of. RichyBoy (talk) 04:24, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hors de combat 

message: An editor persists in linking Harry's year of birth. MOS:DOB does not show any dates of birth being linked. MOS:UNLINKYEARS states that years in articles should not be linked unless the link is germaine and topical to the article's subject matter. Take a look at :Category:1898 births and you will see that few, if any, have just the year of birth linked. 
I do not see how linking the year that Harry Patch was born is in any way relevant to the article. I won't revert the link if it is added again today because I don't want to fall foul of WP:3RR, so would ask the editor who keeps adding the link to refrain from doing so until it is discussed here. 
NOTE: There is a side issue to do with date autoformatting and there is a hiatus in place on mass de-linking of autoformatted dates. That has nothing whatsoever to do with this issue. Date autoformatting e.g. 8 August 2009 used to be done on Wikpedia to ensure that dates display according to "my preferences" settings. In the category listed above you will find a number of articles with the full dates linked i.e. autoformatted. That is not is what under discussion here. --Simple Bob (talk) 18:50, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not saying that his birth year should be linked because he is a person, but because he was one of the oldest people in the world. Articles about supercentenarians often state events that took place in history and talk about the era they were born in. It's important for the reader to grasp what his lifespan entailed, considering that is the main reason for his notability. SiameseTurtle (talk) 22:48, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linking year of birth 

message: Isn't the song notable enough for its own article? It's by a very notable band, and it has received a fair bit of press coverage.--IHABihat (talk) 20:58, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not yet. A look at WP:SONG for notability guidelines is recommended. Rodhullandemu 21:05, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should there be a seperate article [[Harry Patch (In Memory Of)]]? 

message: Could anyone suggest which template is best for these images?:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Patch_Funeral1.JPG & http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Patch_funeral2.JPG
Paulus Gun (talk) 19:33, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template issue 

message: The wisdom of Harry Patch.
When he was passed his 100th birthday Harry Patch was engaged by a Mans magazine as an "Agony Uncle" probably on the grounds that by then if he hadn't done it all he'd probably seen most of it.
A reader wrote in to say that "I'm fed up with following my friends to places like Cambodia. Can you suggest a good place for a holiday"?
The answer from Harry Patch was a classic. "I've always liked Weymouth".AT Kunene (talk) 12:48, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Holidays 

message: My grandfather told me that in the build up towards the Battle of the Somme in 1916, lots of things changed in the military. The best known was the issue of steel helmets for the first time, as the central exchequer had taken over soldiers pay directly rather than via regimental funds a new army paybook was issued. The first specimen copies were filled out with the name "Tommy Atkins". The soldiery started calling themselves "Tommy" as did the Germans.
one definition of "Tommy" would be any soldier who served in WW1 between 1916 and the final peace treaty in 1919.AT Kunene (talk) 12:56, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tommy 

message: Under both the December 2004 and July 2007 paragraphs, the quotes, "calculated and condoned slaughter of human beings," and, "war isn't worth one life," are attributed to him.  Is he known to have said the same thing twice on these occasions, or is one of them incorrect?  —Sahjiarah (talk) 19:46, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last Tommy Section 

message: A couple of things about this article:
:* Intrusive personal details sourced to Ancestry.com. Not sure why we need to know about his oldest son's alcoholism, and his estrangement from his second son. Understand "not censored" but the article's not about them. Also, is Ancestry an RS? I'd always thought it was user-generated.
:* The structure's odd. Why is the 1998 documentary in Legacy? You end up with lots of details of things Mr Patch did while he was alive, appearing after the article's already covered his death. I'd suggest the sub-section be moved up. KJP1 (talk) 10:21, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I believe that ancestry.com is not regarded as a good source as it is a mostly a mixture of user-generated and primary source material, which also requires registration/ subscription. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:46, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two issues