Talk:Terrorism in the United Kingdom

message: I have just updated the table so that the total includes incidents from 2016 and after. Is there a way to code the table so it carries out this sum automatically rather than having to change the totals manually in the future? VehementurInhorrui (talk) 10:58, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Table totals

message: Can we make this a main article that summarises and refers to essentially all the other articles within this category. Thanks AndrewRT(Talk) 14:18, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely the thing thing to do, someone just needs to do it. KazakhPol 00:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Expand

message: Could that page be merged with this one to provide more comprehensive coverage Ms medusa 23:10, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that's a good idea. Please remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~). KazakhPol 18:24, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry about that - my computer has decided to go all american on me so instead of a tilde I get a |  - but now I have one to copy and paste :) Ms medusa 23:10, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with List of terrorist incidents

message: I intend to add to this article to give it more meat, and balance, with the following heading, with the articles I intend to use after:
===Criticism===
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article548672.ece
'Conviction Rate'
Commentators claims that the conviction rate is very low, and that most convictions ended up being for unrelated issues, nothing to do with terrorism.
http://www.irr.org.uk/2005/march/ha000012.html
http://www.irr.org.uk/2005/march/ha000012.html
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/paul_donovan/2006/08/post_285.html
'Evidence extracted from torture'
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,15935,1663308,00.html
http://web.amnesty.org/report2005/gbr-summary-eng
'Extrordinary Redition'
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2007/feb/ep-resolution-on%20rendition-and-detention.pdf
'Walter Wolfgang & alleged abuse of laws'
see Walter Wolfgang
'Protest outside Parliament'
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/commons/story/0,9061,1559299,00.html
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article1129827.ece
http://www.guardian.co.uk/antiwar/story/0,,1539340,00.html
'Alleged Discrimination against Muslims'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3624330.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,1838844,00.html
http://www.politics.co.uk/issueoftheday/justice-anti-terror-laws-counter-productive-$446434$446382.htm
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/paul_donovan/2006/08/post_285.html
'Jean Charles de Menezes'
See: Jean Charles de Menezes
'Forest Gate'
see: Forest_Gate_raid
'Extradition Act 2003; The NatWest Three & Babar Ahmed'
see articles in wikipedia
'Human Rights, Habeus Corpus & The Magna Carta'
http://www.lse.ac.uk/Depts/human-rights/Documents/17.02.04_SC.pdf
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article548672.ece
http://www.labournet.net/ukunion/0505/swtuc1.html
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/article357665.ece
http://www.labournet.net/ukunion/0505/swtuc1.html
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/attacks/story/0,,1110765,00.html
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/paul_donovan/2006/06/human_rights_are_not_negotiabl.html
'Attempted ban of Hizb ut-Tahrir'
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article1183364.ece
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/hardtalk/4931416.stm
http://resource.nusonline.co.uk/media/resource/policy%20passed.doc
Aaliyah Stevens 16:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your work on this. The article "Terrorism in the United Kingdom" should be primarily about the history of actual terrorist incidents and conspiracies and secondly about anti-terrorism laws, and criticism thereof. What you are referring to as criticism is not criticism of terrorism as such but criticism of anti-terrorism laws, and some of this may be better included elsewhere, with just a short reference here and a  template reference. AndrewRT(Talk) 18:32, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

text: No... it wouldnt. This is exactly the right place for such content, unless you are suggesting creating a page on Counter-terrorism in the United Kingdom. 'Terrorism' is a subject that encompasses counter-terrorism, anti-terrorism, legislation on free speech and security, et cetera. KazakhPol 23:12, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Intended additions

message: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article548672.ece
'Conviction Rate'
Commentators claims that the conviction rate is very low, and that most convictions ended up being for unrelated issues, nothing to do with terrorism.
http://www.irr.org.uk/2005/march/ha000012.html
http://www.irr.org.uk/2005/march/ha000012.html
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/paul_donovan/2006/08/post_285.html
'Evidence extracted from torture'
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,15935,1663308,00.html
http://web.amnesty.org/report2005/gbr-summary-eng
'Extrordinary Redition'
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2007/feb/ep-resolution-on%20rendition-and-detention.pdf
'Walter Wolfgang & alleged abuse of laws'
see Walter Wolfgang
'Protest outside Parliament'
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/commons/story/0,9061,1559299,00.html
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article1129827.ece
http://www.guardian.co.uk/antiwar/story/0,,1539340,00.html
'Alleged Discrimination against Muslims'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3624330.stm
http://www.guardian.co.uk/terrorism/story/0,,1838844,00.html
http://www.politics.co.uk/issueoftheday/justice-anti-terror-laws-counter-productive-$446434$446382.htm
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/paul_donovan/2006/08/post_285.html
'Jean Charles de Menezes'
See: Jean Charles de Menezes
'Forest Gate'
see: Forest_Gate_raid
'Extradition Act 2003; The NatWest Three & Babar Ahmed'
see articles in wikipedia
'Human Rights, Habeus Corpus & The Magna Carta'
http://www.lse.ac.uk/Depts/human-rights/Documents/17.02.04_SC.pdf
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article548672.ece
http://www.labournet.net/ukunion/0505/swtuc1.html
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/legal/article357665.ece
http://www.labournet.net/ukunion/0505/swtuc1.html
http://politics.guardian.co.uk/attacks/story/0,,1110765,00.html
http://commentisfree.guardian.co.uk/paul_donovan/2006/06/human_rights_are_not_negotiabl.html
'Attempted ban of Hizb ut-Tahrir'
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/politics/article1183364.ece
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/hardtalk/4931416.stm
http://resource.nusonline.co.uk/media/resource/policy%20passed.doc
Aaliyah Stevens 16:20, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your work on this. The article "Terrorism in the United Kingdom" should be primarily about the history of actual terrorist incidents and conspiracies and secondly about anti-terrorism laws, and criticism thereof. What you are referring to as criticism is not criticism of terrorism as such but criticism of anti-terrorism laws, and some of this may be better included elsewhere, with just a short reference here and a  template reference. AndrewRT(Talk) 18:32, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

text: No... it wouldnt. This is exactly the right place for such content, unless you are suggesting creating a page on Counter-terrorism in the United Kingdom. 'Terrorism' is a subject that encompasses counter-terrorism, anti-terrorism, legislation on free speech and security, et cetera. KazakhPol 23:12, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism

message: About how to organize the whole (big) subject, the title "Terrorism in the United Kingdom" is ambiguous. I presume it means terrorism against the British, but it could also refer to terrorism against others by terrorists based in the UK; in the latter group are the whole Londonistan cast who are wanted on terrorism charges in other places but who still operate freely under official British protection. The UK is the most terrorist-friendly nation in Europe, if not the whole world.
Seriously, if the writers here get sidelined by fatwas from Human Rights Watch, Amnesty International, and the Guardian, the article will never get anywhere.
LDH 04:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Surely the simple thing would be to define the article as Terrorist acts within the United Kingdom.  A separate article on Terrorist organisations based in the UK could be created. Regan123 18:02, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Misc

message: The statement that the "British state and its security forces took part in terrorism in Northern Ireland" is POV and biased. There was no official policy of terrorism.Royalcourtier (talk) 08:19, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: While some members of the security service undoubtedly did take part in acts of terrorism, there is a singular lack of evidence that any of it was state-sanctioned. Nick Cooper (talk) 11:29, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps a more balanced statement such as "The British security forces in Northern Ireland colluded with paramillitary groups that carried out terrorist attacks during the troubles" would be better?. --MJLRGS (talk) 13:16, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good to me. Gob Lofa (talk) 03:24, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I was a bit taken aback to see on the map that there have apparently at some point been terrorist attacks on Mull, in Oban and in Inverness, so did some checking of the database which has been used to compile it and found a few inaccuracies in its listings for Scotland (https://www.start.umd.edu/gtd/search/Results.aspx?search=scotland&sa.x=0&sa.y=0). Here are two examples:
Attack listed as 197603110001 - this was the murder of Harry Scott, which took place in West Belfast, Northern Ireland, as can be seen in this newspaper article: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/man-convicted-of-1976-ira-pub-murder-fails-to-have-verdict-overturned-35308925.html
Attack listed as 199206080003 - this took place in New Scotland Yard, which of course is in London.
Attacks are also listed as having occurred in Rawalpindi and Paris.  I'm not sure how these come to appear on a list of terrorist incidents in Scotland. 
The incident numbered 198105090001 took place not at Inverness, but at the Sullom Voe oil terminal on Shetland. (See this report: http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/day-ira-tried-bomb-queen-7720396)  I can't see anything at all for Mull or Oban, so maybe the red dots could be removed from there?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.19.180.169 (talk) 06:23, 5 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistakes in the map 

message: Why does the table falsely state that there were no terrorist incidents in the UK in 1993? The 1993 Bishopsgate bombing was one such attack that year. Jim Michael (talk) 10:04, 30 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table 

message: The Times are writing about a Home Office report which mentions that there are 43 thousand suspects in the UK. Does anyone have a link to the report itself rather than The Times? See https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/terrorism-in-the-uk-number-of-suspects-tops-40-000-after-mi5-rechecks-its-list-pqm6k62ph A Thousand Words (talk) 10:45, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  April 2020 Home Office report? 

message: Wholly unexplained and contextless, there is a long list of Islamist orgs - most of which seem to have no connection at all to the UK, no presence there and which have never perpetrated, or attempted to perpetrate any acts there. Why is it there? This is akin to listing every left-wing terrorist worldwide, because left-wing terrorist acts have occurred in the UK. How is it helpful to understanding acts in the UK to know about Aden-Abyan Islamic Army for example? Pincrete (talk) 04:22, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Although not clear from the sub-section, they are described as "Organisations the government has designated as terrorist and banned" in the main part of the section at Terrorism in the United Kingdom#Organisations. I have previously removed some entries (Animal Liberation Front and Kurdistan Freedom Hawks) from the section that were not actually designated, I have not checked every entry though. Kathleen's bike (talk) 07:13, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Long list of Islamist orgs - most with zero connection to UK