Template talk:STD and STI

message: A, B, C, D are stds, even though some have vaccines and some are rarely gotten from intercourse, it can be fairly common from rimming (analingus)Qrc2006 04:40, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You CANNOT get Hepatitis C from rimming.  There is no evidence on D -- Samir धर्म 04:08, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hepatitis

message: The evidence on D being an STD is also not concrete.  There was one study done on a cohort of 55 asians that analyzed causes of transmission and linked to spouse-spouse contact (I'll look up the PMID.  It is listed by CDC as being an STD, and I've left it on for now.  Should C be reverted, an WP:RfC is on the way -- Samir धर्म 05:03, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed the STD article on D, and removed it from the template -- Samir धर्म 01:01, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Evidence on D

message: I think there is a confusion regarding "blood borne infections" and STD. Both are not synonyms though they are related Doctor Bruno_Talk_/E Mail 09:19, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transmitted through Blood / STD 

message: I think the template should categorize into by virus, and by bacteria, i think that might be a good idea, thoughts? Qrc2006 04:34, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Arcadian has followed up on this. JFW | T@lk 21:20, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Segreagating

message: change other sex topics, to other sex templates, and add in a link to the Sexual identities template Qrc2006 04:38, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is inconsistent with the WP:MOS and should be avoided (linking to other templates is self-referential). JFW | T@lk 21:19, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: other sex topics

message: is hep A and STD or STI, i think it is after reading the Hep A article want to be sure thought Qrc2006 01:20, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have sex with a person who has the common cold, and afterwards you start getting a runny nose and sneeze, does that make the common cold a sexually transmissible disease? JFW | T@lk 21:15, 10 September 2006 (UTC)

text: No one's patronising you, Qrc. People are trying to help you understand that the possibility of contracting a virus during sexual activity doesn't define it as a STD. If you don't care about the answer to Dr Wolff's question, then you shouldn't be editing any of these articles. You are arguing with people who are experts and know what they're talking about. And I really cannot understand why you have so much trouble accepting their information. Sarah Ewart (Talk) 11:03, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: hep A

message: Don't reference other templates in your templates.  Keep it Simple.  Atom 03:16, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: KIS

message: Trichomoniasis is the clinical illness and Trichomonas vaginalis is the pathogen.  Probably not necessary to link to the pathogen on an illness template -- Samir धर्म 23:11, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trichomoniasis

message: The list of diseases on this template, and where this template was spammed was massivly unnaceptable. I have moved to solve this problem, but adding an STD/STI template to an article requires a reputable source saying the disease is commonly sexually transmitted. JBKramer 12:38, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Willy-nilly unnacceptable 

message: it says its herpes, that its transmitted by skin to skin contact (like HPV, HSV1/HSV2, crabs) and that it affects the gential area, does this mean that it is an STD? Qrc2006 00:56, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: NO - in children/adolescents likely primary is from lips, in adults may be from genital. However this suggests mostly self-infection of a person transfering from one site to another and whilst ultimate source can originate from a sexual transmission, this does not make this invariably or even mostly so (similarly skin staphlococcal infection spread, which whilst it can be transfered during sex, is not seen as a specifically Sexually Transmitted Infection) David Ruben  Talk  01:36, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Whitlow is not an STD -- Samir धर्म 00:17, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Herpetic whitlow]] 

message: is Epstein Barr Virus EBV an STD or STI? can it be transmitted sexually? is it caused by an STD?Qrc2006 09:26, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: EBV STD?

message: is herpes zoster an STD? crabs and scabies and HPV can be transmitted skin to skin, which makes me think that this may also be an STD, if so i think it should be added to Template STD/STI Qrc2006 09:29, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: std

message: i added PID since it says in the article that it is usually caused by STDs, i think ill add it in under other, any thoughts?Qrc2006 09:33, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pelvic inflammatory disease

message: i added Giardiasis back in, since the article on STDs says its an STD transmittable through rimming. and STD is a disease transmitted through vaginal anal or oral sex. oral sex is oral contact with the vagina/cervix anus/rectum and penis/testicles and pubic area. Qrc2006 09:46, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this navigation template should be about infections and disease primarily transmitted through sexual activity, rather than that have potential to be so transfered - else we can include all bacterial and viral causes of gastroenteritis via rimming . David Ruben  Talk  13:25, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Giardiasis]]

message: should Adenoviridae be added in? it is listed as a cause of Urethritis in that article, and Urethritis is unquestionably an STD, any thoughts?Qrc2006 10:21, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Adenoviridae]]

message: Do not put this template anywhere without first determining it is appropriate for that article, using reliable sources. Do not add anything to this article without first finding reliable sources. This is getting outrageous. JBKramer 11:28, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop adding new diseases 

message: There are two main issues for the approach for this navigation template:
# What to list - is it for any infection that may be spread by sexual activity - I think not. Generally STD is taken to mean conditions & infections that are primarily spread only by sexual activities. Yes whilst having certain types of sex one can pass on almost all bacterial and viral causes of gastroenteritis, but that does not make them primarily classified as STDs. Likewise under "Conditions caused" was listed Death, but this is not primarily/exclusively caused by STDs - many other non-STD infections & other conditions may cause this - otherwise we might as well include pain, itch, rash, spot, discharge, discomfort, malaise, weakness etc etc
# Secondly is distinction or otherwise of the causative infection and the resulting disease. Listing in quite separate parts of the nav-temp Treponema pallidum and Syphilis is not helpful to the average reader who will be unable to link the two together (there is clearly less problem with Chlamydia and Chlamydia trachomatis).
I have therefore (see changes):
* Columnated the list so that class name is clearly shown on teh left and the list of members may wrap onto new lines neatly. This seemed to require a change in the template's initial markup code to allow multiple columns. 
* Moved infections and diseases together where there is a 1-on-1 link.
* Left miscallaneous conditions in the separate section at the end (no need specify as being due to STD/STI as that should be presumed from this being nav.template about a specififc topic)
* Made the organisms italicised for clarity of distinction.
* Finally I placed the disease before the infection - afterall the template has in its title STD then STI. David Ruben  Talk  14:25, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reworking

message: I removed mention of Cytomegalovirus (CMV), as infectious mononucleosis (glandular fever) is not primarily a STD (close contact and kissing yes, but sex not required). It is true that  severe infection may signal immunocommpromised states, i.e. HIV/AIDS, but this is as often as not in such patients reactivation of previously dormant infection acquired long before. Likewise whilst severe CMV may be hallmark of switch from HIV carrier to AIDs, this article also does not include Pneumocystis jiroveci pneumonia (formerly Pneumocystis carinii) which is almost exclusively an indirect result of HIV STD. David Ruben  Talk  14:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: re CMV

message: i think parasitic is a bad term, since all of these STDs are parasites, furthermore all the other ones are categorized by kingdom, HIV is under viral since its a virus, chlamydia bacteria, candiasis fungus, Scabies and Crabs are animals, so i think they should be labeled Animals or Animalistic or some other term other than parasite.Qrc2006 22:08, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  Parasites is a good umbrella term -- Samir धर्म 22:46, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Parasitic

message: I removed candidiasis from this template since it's not considered an STD in the conventional sense.  Andrew73 18:22, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Candidiasis 

message: As the article explains, "gay bowel syndrome" is no longer considered a useful term. I have removed it.
70.253.87.37 (talk) 00:05, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed gay bowel syndrome 

message: There is longstanding precedent and reasoning (outlined at Wikipedia:Categorization#Categorization using templates) against categorizing articles via template substitution. Accordingly, I have removed the portion of this template's code that automatically added articles to :Category:Sexually transmitted diseases and infections.
The template is used on (and therefore imparted Category:Sexually transmitted diseases and infections to) 38 articles. 
*23 of those articles were already manually included in the category, so no action there was necessary.
*I manually added the category to 6 articles where it seemed appropriate (Pelvic inflammatory disease, Cervicitis, Adult T-cell leukemia/lymphoma, Kaposi's sarcoma-associated herpesvirus, Subtypes of HIV, and Ureaplasma infection). 
*I have not manually added the category to 9 articles where such categorization seemed inappropriate (List of infectious diseases, Safe sex, Ectopic pregnancy, Genitourinary medicine, ICD-10 Chapter I: Certain infectious and parasitic diseases, List of ICD-9 codes 001-139: infectious and parasitic diseases, Reproductive medicine, American Social Health Association, and Klebsiella granulomatis).
As always, I would appreciate feedback on the above. Maralia (talk) 05:11, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article categorization 

message: I would suggest that this nav template should have a section on prevention, including links to the safer sex article, condoms, PrEP, etc.  Perhaps also a section on STI testing and STI treatments.  I would argue that the casual user who ends up looking at this template may be in search of actionable advice on how to treat, test, or prevent STIs, rather than simply the academic descriptions of all the possible infections.  Would others agree with this? Willmskinner (talk) 00:03, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this template have sections on prevention, treatment, and testing?