Talk:Roadside Picnic

message: is this an explanation for that book and movie sphere?
:No, that would be at Sphere (novel) and Sphere (film). Staecker 04:06, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can see what he's saying (yellow ball that grants wishes), but the focus in the novel is about the zone, the anomalies/artifacts, and the politics around the zone.  I'd like to see an interview where that link is stated before making any changes.
Another similar media is Darker than Black  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.138.255 (talk) 02:36, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: section 1

message: Perhaps a reference could be found supporting the analogy with respect to the book?  As it stands it looks like original research.  Both book and movie predate the disaster. --81.156.177.239 (talk) 16:36, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chernobyl 

message: I rewrote most of the article. I am still working on the Plot Summary. Cheers! Meishern (talk) 04:33, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice work! One thing; in the plot summary, Monkey is referred to as a 'normal, healthy' girl.  She is covered in fur, has solid black eyes and may or may not be telekinetic - I don't know if that counts as normal! --90.211.132.97 (talk) 15:59, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Plot summary is the only thing that is left from the previous version. i really hate it, and it needs to be rewritten as well. Monkey has even more problems besides those u mentioned, like screaming all night and preferring the company of the copy of Rederick's dead father. Cheers! Meishern (talk) 21:07, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Complete Rewrite 

message: Should the Mosquito Manges, Witches Jellies, spiders' webs, batteries, heat-effect, Meat Grinder, and thunder-making lights from the book also be included in the list? While not beneficial to humans, they're still just as much artifacts as the rest of the items. Kudos to whoever added the info on the artifacts already there.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.84.182.50 (talk) 21:11, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeh, I am going to add all that stuff when I re-read the book sometime next month. The batteries are already added to the list of artifacts. I will make new section called 'Zone Phenomenon' or something like that, since Mosquito Manges can not be taken out of the Zone (yet) and thus are not an artifact. Thanks for the compliment on my rewrite. Cheers! Meishern (talk) 19:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC)

text: I think it would be useful to include both translations, some of the terms are quite different. I'm happy to work on this (just read the new translation) if it sounds like a good idea to others. Behemothing (talk) 01:51, 22 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I own the new translation, maybe the article should mention it? Adam of kilkenny (talk) 14:44, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artifacts/Anomalies 

message: I find it funny that the Wikipedia article i wrote (this one), is referenced by (SFFWorld.com) which uses my own words (with my name there). I am being referenced by my own words! hahahaha. I didn't even include that reference, and wrote the Wikipedia article months before the reference. Cheers! Meishern (talk) 22:37, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I was wondering who copied who...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.52.134.156 (talk) 21:11, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Just Funny

message: I removed the descriptor "black and white" in reference to the film adaption "Stalker".  Only scenes that occur outside the Zone are monochrome in the film. As an analogy, calling "Stalker" a black and white film would be similar to calling "The Wizard of Oz" a black and white film.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.116.22.18 (talk) 06:58, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adaptation 

message: I recently read HP Lovecraft's The Colour Out Of Space, there are some clues to this work having influenced the Brothers: (1) the general idea of an anonymous alien visitation (2) both stories reference the star Deneb (3) the appearance of a "Dr Pilman" at the start of Roadside Picnic, parallels the Lovecraftian name "Pickman", (4) a well containing luminous material (Witches' Jelly).  I haven't previously seen Lovecraft referenced amongst the authors' incfluences.  I think that would be worth adding in.  Wikid (talk) 08:05, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Such an addition would have to be supported by reliable secondary sources.  In this case, use of only the primary sources (i.e., the fictional texts) would constitute original research. Sindinero (talk) 08:10, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

text: True, true -- in their sources, the Brothers' attributions lie sleeping -- maybe bookmark this until someone makes the connection elsewhere? Google didn't turn up any other source Wikid (talk) 09:31, 9 June 2012 (UTC)

text: Here's a possibility to watch. Wikid (talk) 09:36, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influences 

message: Sorry I'm not logged-in, but in the game Shadow for Chernobyl, it's clearly stated that the Zone and Artifacts were created by an experimental science station (presumably working on future weapon designs), NOT by the Chernobyl disaster. The station was located in the Exclusion Zone for safety reasons: the experiments were dangerous, and the Exclusion Zone was the only large area devoid of people.
70.98.187.98 (talk) 17:56, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: And what exactly does that have to do with this novel that was written before Chernobyl accident ever happened? Meishern (talk) 23:01, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  STALKER: Shadow of Chernobyl 

message: There is one laughable and far-fetched allegation in the Dummy phenomena part, where the author of the article states that the Stalker is cheating his wife with Dina.
This is based only of a single "clue" which comes from an omission in the cited text, here it is the "hint": 
::"Arthur's hair, like his sister's, bounced rythmically"
But the real quote is like this (you can check it from http://lib.ru/STRUGACKIE/engl_picnic.txt):
::"His dark raven hair,  like his sister's, bounced rhythmically"
So now the hair is dark raven like his sisters' (Dina) which is introduced in the novel like this:
::"She was all  silk and satin, firm and full, flawless, without a single unnecessary wrinkle - hundred- twenty pounds of sugar-candy flesh, and emerald eyes that had an inner  glow, a large wet mouth  and even white  teeth, and raven hair"
The other "hint" is also laughable. This part needs to be removed, as it is only the horny imagination of the article's author.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.137.66.25 (talk) 17:13, 11 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cheating his wife ? LOL 

message: I'm the guy who added the cheating part.
I'd just like to say... if you removed it, you're a complete noob, because if you've ever read the original Russian version, you'd know that there's a part near the end which states:
". . . and he slept with that Dina, drunk or sober, asleep or awake."
Suggesting he banged her countless times.
Most people who read Roadside Picnic are totally clueless, or at least seem incapable of picking up on all the tiny, subtle, masterful hints sprinkled throughout.
And to refer to me as some horny guy....... good job, idiots.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.35.120.124 (talk) 05:50, 26 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  cheating gotta go 

message: I heard about a TV show being based off of this book. It would be on WGN America. Does anyone know if this is true or not? I'm not sure if it was a rejected pilot or not, but I thought that I would mention this.
65.214.67.173 (talk) 04:51, 21 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I've updated the page with details of WGN cancelling.  That article states the pilot was being offered to other channels/networks, but I've not heard anything in the ~6 months since, so I'd assume it's dead.  What might be worth adding if anyone can locate definitive details is whether the pilot was actually filmed/completed - a commenter at that Deadline page says that some promo material was briefly on YouTube, and the IMDB page has what looks like behind-the-scenes photos. ErsatzCulture (talk) 13:17, 30 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: TV show

message: I have translated the lead section from the original Russian article:
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9F%D0%B8%D0%BA%D0%BD%D0%B8%D0%BA_%D0%BD%D0%B0_%D0%BE%D0%B1%D0%BE%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%BD%D0%B5
I hope it helps to remove tha=e tag (I wouldn't do it anyways), so it is up to other editors to decide. I invite all the editors to the discussion of the changes and I especially welcome those who speak both English and Russian in order to evaluate my edits in the comprehensive way. By the way, I haven't deleted a single word from the previous version, just added the new information--OnlineStalker (talk) 21:40, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead section

message: The Russian-made videogame "Escape from Tarkov" might warrant a mention in influences being that it has several references in item descriptions and dialogue to Stalkers (primarily the game, but the concept as a whole as well) in the English version. I'm not sure about the Russian version but I'd be willing to bet it has a lot of the same and possibly more direct allusions to the novel itself. This is all not to mention that the gameplay loop has the players acting as Stalkers, entering an abandoned exclusion zone, gathering valuable resources, equipment, and salvage, and fighting your way back out in a former Soviet Bloc nation.
24.68.229.147 (talk) 08:01, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Tarkov?

message: Before anything else: I found this page after going down a bit of a rabbit hole and have not read the book. With that said, the book's history exists regardless of its contents. The history section contained inaccurate claims of severe soviet censorship, and the citation for those claims was from a page that talked about something completely unrelated (another book from the brothers called Snail on the Slope, and which also had no mentions of government censorship of any books anyways.)
At first I decided changing it to citation needed would be good, but I did some more digging and discovered that the book was never actually "refused publication," nor was it "significantly departed from the original version." It appears the book WAS censored by the Soviet government, but for the purpose of having foul language removed from the book, and newer version of the book simply have this originally-intended language added back in. To quote Boris Strugatsky himself:
"It didn’t even cross our minds that the issue had nothing to do with ideology.  They, those quintessential “bloody fools,” actually did think this way: that language must be as colorless, smooth, and glossy as possible and certainly shouldn’t be at all coarse; that science fiction necessarily has to be fantastic and on no account should have anything to do with crude, observable, and brutal reality; that the reader must in general be protected from reality — let him live by daydreams, reveries, and beautiful incorporeal ideas."
Thus, there was no significant departure from the original, and the book was not refused publication (it was however delayed for a while, it seems.) A following sentence already cover this (on the restoration to the original) more correct version, and I changed the language in it to make it a bit more accurate: Boris Strugatsky did not restore the newly published version HIMSELF, it was based off of a different version he had previously restored. 
I believe whoever originally added those two lines in there may have taken a small kernel of truth they heard and expanded it just based off of what they thought sounded right, as it, to use the same language, is significantly departed from reality. AquaticOnWiki (talk) 06:08, 3 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction to history section 

message: Is into the radius based off of this? 2600:8800:1AC0:6800:DB4:A5E4:1F02:B5EB (talk) 05:32, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Into The Radius? (VR Game) 

message: The song is named "Не возвращайся, если не уверен" by Red in the book. An acoustic version by Антон Соколов is available at: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA-9RiYVW5M Andrés Delfino (talk) 22:40, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Song Red likes to hear when returning from The Zone