Portal talk:Palestine

message: Somebody please help me with this. Revolución 02:00, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)

message: Palestine page is a disambig that - correctly - mentions Eretz Israel in the very 1st line. This portal needs to be renamed into State of Palestine or Jamahiriyya Filastin of some such. ←Humus sapiens←Talk 02:58, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Portals aren't "owned" by any one group; like all Wikipedia content, they are a colloborative effort of Wikipedia editors. As well, portals aren't created for the purpose of advancing causes, but for the purpose of providing related and useful information to Wikipedia readers in one logical location. If a portal does not do that, then it has no reason to exist. Jayjg (talk) 17:57, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The only person to have mentioned "advancing causes" here is Jayjg. Actually, if there's one thing this can really help with, it's fixing the ridiculously numerous gaps in Palestine coverage resulting precisely from the fixation on conflict-related items (though if it helps in NPOVing the more blatantly biased articles on conflict-related stuff, that would also be good.) - Mustafaa 21:49, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

text: How else would one interpret the argument that Palestinians need to have a portal because Israelis have a portal? Jayjg (talk) 21:52, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  In the context of WP:CSB, for a start. - Mustafaa 20:25, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

text: Hmm. It didn't sound like that to me.  If you wanted to counter systemic bias, you wouldn't have a portal on either one before you had one on Brazil and Russia and Nigeria and Sudan etc.  There's already far too much information about Israel, Palestine, and the whole conflict on Wikipedia, compared to more important topics; adding even more only worsens systemic bias. Jayjg (talk) 20:45, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)

text: Partly true - in the spirit of which I just wrote Wikipedia:Wikiportal/Algeria.  However, all this information (I think of some of it, like knowledge wars, as "Mideast-cruft") focuses exclusively on one aspect of Palestine, leaving many important topics empty for lack of a direct relation to the conflict; furthermore, the paucity of Palestinians editing here means that even conflict-related articles tend to lack a Palestinian perspective (tend to be openly anti-Palestinian, frankly.) - Mustafaa 20:56, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename 

message: I just recently noticed the Wikipedia:Notice board for Israel-related topics.  I think it would be a good idea if someone made a Wikipedia:Notice board for Palestine-related topics.  Blackcats 08:50, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, so I just made one. - Mustafaa 20:24, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Notice Board

message: I do not have enough knowledge yet of what the purpose of a "wikiportal" is, but there needs to be a clear distinction between "Palestine" and "State of Palestine". A "Palestine" wikiportal needs to be just about that: Palestine, meaning the Palestinian nationality, history, struggle for independence, customs, politics, current issues, folklore, etc. The "State of Palestine" declared in 1988 is a very narrow (and currently low in relevance) aspect of "Palestine". I will try to adjust that in the coming days, unless anybody else has time to go at it sooner. The intro paragraph of a Palestine wikiportal should not at all mention the "State of Palestine" of 1988 in the first sentence no more than the first page of an India wikiportal should mention the Sepoy Rebellion in its intro sentence. Ramallite (talk) 17:10, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes sense, but kind of begs the question as to the exact scope of this portal; would news, for example, of some incident in Jaffa be included? Jayjg (talk) 17:53, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't worry about that. If you're talking about daily news, almost all internationally noteworthy news coming out of Palestine unfortunately has something to do with Israel anyway, and usually vice versa. It's kind of what happens when two nations share the same piece of land I guess. Are news items updated manually each day, or is that section linked to some sort of automatic subscription service?  If the news item happens to involve anything to do with Palestinians, from violence to curfews to food festivals to sports, then I expect it would be on this site, but if it's something exclusively Israeli, like for example Yardena Arazi giving a concert at the Society for the Preservation of Walnet-flavored Hummus headquarters in Tel Hashomer, it probably wouldn't be too relevant in a Palestine wikiportal. Ramallite (talk) 18:31, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

text: You see, this is where I get confused. Should the intro be rewritten? I was under the impression that you had to include the intro to the article corresponding to that wikiportal e.g. the Canada wikiportal's intro is the same as the intro in the Canada article. But, there is no article that combines everything into a general article about what we refer to as Palestine. when one types in Palestine, it goes to a disambiguation page. And from that page, there is Palestine (region), Palestinian territories, State of Palestine, and Palestinian National Authority. But no article that talks about everything in Palestine, the culture, the history, and so on. So there are two options : we can write the intro ourselves, and link to the disambiguation page in the "read more". Or move the disambig page to Palestine (disambiguation) then use Palestine to write about Palestine. Since "State of Palestine" is only about the proposed state, and "Palestinian territories" only is only about the region. Revolución 04:50, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: "Palestine" vs "State of Palestine"

message: Currently, the Palestinian National Authority, along with the European Union and the Arab League, envision the establishment of a State of Palestine to include all or part of the West Bank, the Gaza Strip, and East Jerusalem, living in peace with Israel under a democratically elected and transparent government.
Is that really the stance of Hamas? savidan(talk) (e@) 14:22, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably not, but, at the same time, I've read nothing to suggest that Hamas has attempted to pass legislation which would change the Palestinian Authority's official stance.  Until they do so, the above assertion stands. -- (Mingus ah um 01:14, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This sentence 

message: Seeing as this is the Portal for Palestine I thought it would be the best place to suggest and get feedback on setting out a plan to make Palestinian-related articles easier to navigate. There are many discussions on the relevant pages but perhaps here we can organise better and get consensus on the best way forward. I've spent a lot of time navigating around these articles and there seems to be little connection between related topics. For example shouldn't PLO Executive Committee include the Politics of Palestine template (horizontal navigation bar).
I would suggest using a country infobox for State of Palestine and a seperate template (horizontal navigation bar) with Palestine or Palestinian territories as its main page to include geography, history, demographics etc.
There could be endless arguments about what should and should not be attached to the State of Palestine page so I think until there is a viable Palestinian state then the best thing to do is to make Palestine or Palestinian territories the starting point. Pockets23 10:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaning up/Merging/Splitting Palestine related articles 

message: In the article referring to the Mercaz HaRav Massacre, my reference to the mob violence by right wing Israelis against Palestinian residents of Jebl Mukaber in East Jerusalem after the attack keeps being deleted. I have referenced this from Ha'aretz yet it is being deleted from the portion reporting the Israeli reaction to the incident, leaving a lopsided view resulting in an article showing the average Palestinian as "bloodthirsty" with no mention of Israeli hardliners or intolerance--Orestek (talk) 20:31, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Mercaz HaRav Massacre

message: Isn't it important to say that the Palestinians have a short history ? after all there was no 'Palestinian people' before the 1940's.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.86.95.113 (talk) 21:20, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing history section 

message: if this isn't being updated it should be removed. untwirl(talk) 22:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "news" infobox 

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thread_title:  Al Aqsa Massacre 

message: I was editing the Racism in Israel article. I wrote a paragraph on a poll produced the the Tel Aviv Univeristy on Israeli high schoolers attitude towards Israeli Arabs; I erased part of a paragraph that I deemed as being unbalanced in favour of Israeli (the paragraph basically blamed "Arab aggression" for instances of Israeli Jewish street violence); and then I wrote on the Talk Page about what I regarded as pro-Israel bias in the article's style. A user, User:Cptnono, undid all of my edits. He left me a message on my Talk Page in which he asked me to provide further reasoning on my actions on that article. I did, and I agreed to discuss with him the paragraph I had removed and he later restored. But I informed him that I would restore the paragraph re the Tel Aviv University poll since it was properly sourced and worded. I would like a user and better yet an administrator to, please, observe further unfoldings on that article and its talk page. I have received in my talk page a message by another user who accused User:Cptnono of being a biased, pro-Israel POV warrior that is skilled in scalating conflicts. He also issued me a warning due to the paragraph that I had removed before. He's no administrator. Can he really do that? 186.212.104.16 (talk) 03:31, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for help, preferrably adm. help 

message: Do you think the subject the article covers is notable enough for the English Wikipedia? Since I know there are many people with a lot of knowledge in the field that read this page, I would appreciate any help you could provide in the improvement of the current state of this article, in such a way that it would meet the Wikipedia standards, and/or if you disapprove of it, I would appreciate if you could post an honest opinion on the subject in the talk page of the article. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 16:15, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Netanya Market bombing]] 

message: Hello -- at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2011 July 22#Pro-Palestinian consensus was reached to retarget the "Pro-Palestinian" redirect from "Israeli-Palestinian conflict" to "Palestinian cause". On 14 August 2011 Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Palestinian cause was closed as "Redirect to Israeli-Palestinian conflict", inadvertently reversing the consensus reached at the RfD regarding the "Pro-Palestinian" redirect (the redirect was not mentioned during the discussion).
In subsequent discussion at Talk:Pro-Palestinian#Extract from RFD discussion for future reference it has been suggested that both redirects ("Pro-Palestinian" and "Palestinian cause") would be better targeted at Palestinian nationalism. It was also agreed to initiate a widely-advertised RfD, with notifications to relevant WikiProjects and participants in the AfD and RfD. Accordingly, your comments are invited at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2011 August 26#Pro-Palestinian. Best, —Ireilly talk 15:30, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  RFD 

message: Do you think the subject the article covers is notable enough for the English Wikipedia? Since I know there are many people with a lot of knowledge in the field that read this page, I would appreciate if you could share your knowledge and thoughts on the matter at this article's entry on the Articles for deletion page. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 02:08, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[2002 Herzliya shawarma restaurant bombing]] 

message: In this set of templates - should we keep the general and vague word "Terrorism" in the headline or should we change it to a word (or words) which would help define more precisely the difference between (1) any type of notable murder committed against Israeli targets and (2) any type of Arab/foreign militia terror attacks and/or individual nationalistic-motivated terror attacks (committed not only by Arabs) committed against Israeli targets. Please help by suggesting alternatives in the discussion itself. TheCuriousGnome (talk) 14:12, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template talk:Terrorist attacks against Israelis in the 2000s#Question]] 

message: I've added the following to Portal:Palestine/Opentask, as part of WP:COORD project to get every article which could benefit from geographic coordinates geocoded, which I hope may also be useful and relevant to your project.
;Missing geographical coordinates:
*:Category:Palestine articles missing geocoordinate data -- please see WP:COORD for how-to information
I hope this is helpful, and no-one minds my adding it. If it's a problem, please remove it. If anyone wants any help, please don't hesitate to ask, either at WP:COORD or on my talk page. -- The Anome (talk) 23:35, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing coordinates 

message: Shouldn't the flag in  be removed? This portal isn't just about the Palestinian Territories, it's also about Palestine region, so this flag could be misleading, and even offensive, especially in an article about the region. Imagine a if it were an Israeli flag in an article about the region. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 05:31, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This is moot. The portal is about to be split. Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 07:18, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Not really.Greyshark09 (talk) 22:56, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag in <nowiki>{{Portal|Palestine}}</nowiki> 

message: I made this template showing the development of the Palestinian territories. I think it could help in some articles =)
Greetings — Allrounder (talk) 16:45, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Original research and misleading - the first map is a British commonwealth known as Mandatory "Palestine - Eretz Yisrael", and not "Arab Palestinian land".Greyshark09 (talk) 22:29, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:Palestinian territory development]] 

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