Talk:South Island

message: Would any native English speaker not say the South Island?  I think it's normal grammar, just like North Sea, east coast, Western World etc.
:I believe there are a number of South Islands around the world (I have vague memories of seeing 37 quoted somewhere), but I suspect their inhabitants (if there are any) "live on South Island," whereas we live in the South Island. Koro Neil (talk) 14:28, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This raises the question of where you're from. The only time the is ever omitted from the name of either island by New Zealanders is when it is being used attributively (like an adjective)—a delegation of South Island farmers. Koro Neil (talk) 14:28, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Hmm, you're the first New Zealander I've come across who says on the South Island rather than in the South Island. Note robinp's last sentence just below. Koro Neil (talk) 14:28, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

text: robinp 21:21, 26 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: untitled

message: I've never heard of or seen any unofficial South Island flag before. It appears to be an obscure design mentioned on FOTW and almost nowhere else. 203.109.254.49 19:50, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It really bugs me too, It was inserted by User:Expatkiwi on October 12, so I left messages on his talk page here. I don't think his responses were compelling at all. Perhaps we should just delete the flag and see what happens, or seek further comment.   The Rakiura flag in the Stewart Island/Rakiura article may be a different kettle of fish. Māori have the right by decree to "deface" the New Zealand flag by adding tribal names, but whether or not that makes the flag official, I have no idea. Note that the word Rakiura has been added to the NZ flag, but the words Te Wai Pounamu have been added to a flag which is not the NZ flag. Did you notice too that at that FOTW site, Pounamu was spelt PoEnamu. Amazing. Moriori 22:00, 25 October 2005 (UTC)

text: An unofficial flags page has been created, that has the two island flag concepts illustrated on them, so chill.  FYI, Moriori, While the Blue Ensign is in the Stewart Island Flag, the Red Ensign in the North Island concept and the White Ensign in the South Island concept are also official New Zealand flags (which considering the Maritime history of New Zealand, is entirely appropriate, in my humble opinion).  Expatkiwi 19:33, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: FYI the white ensign identifies a branch of our armed services (navy), and definitely not a geographic entity. Same for the air force ensign, and red ensign (merchant shipping). Moriori 21:01, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: What is this flag doing on Wikipedia?

message: These are slightly awkward translations of the Māori equivalents. They really translate as 'the water(s) of greenstone' and 'the place of greenstone.' Just for the record. Kahuroa 00:15, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. I have amended Te Wai Pounamu and South Island accordingly. Moriori 01:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Greenstone Water, The Greenstone Place

message: The list of companies seems like a problematic list. First there is no definition of what companies qualify to be noted in the list, and second the list would be absolutely huge (and incorrect) if an attempt was made to list every company either founded or operating in the south island. Propose delete list of companies. (If not delete, then at least qualify what sort of company can make the list) --Zaf(t) 12:54, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The list should be removed unless someone is willing to put the effort into setting up a qualification. Suitable qualifications might be "South Island-based Companies in the NZX50" or "South Island-based companies with an annual turnover > NZ$100 million". The latter requires an easy way to get turnover figures for each company. If anyone knows of a good place to get these figures online I'm interested, since the List of New Zealand companies has a similar problem of needing to be qualified.-gadfium 18:46, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

text: That sounds very reasonable. You could probably drop criteria 2, since I don't think it's easy to find out where most shareholders reside.-gadfium 19:01, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of companies 

message: It disappointments me that so many contributions to either the South Island or South Island Independence pages are scrutinised by Auckland based administrators who seem to be determined to halt any attempts by South Islanders to express their sub-national pride. Surely the purpose of Wikipedia is to provide a source of information to people? How can limiting the amount of information available be of any benefit to anyone. Yes, the List of New Zealand companies will over time grow. And as it grows then it will need to be modified and presented in a better way. Until then why not encourage people to contribute to its growth. Son of Zealandia 02:45, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:OWN.-gadfium 04:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  South Island Contributions  

message: The external link to the South Island Virtual Presence Post is useful in that it provides further links, information and news relating to the South Island. As it is a government sponsored site I think it is a useful resource.Son of Zealandia 04:36, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's rarely updated. For South Island news, surely linking to the Otago Daily Times and The Press would be more appropriate.-gadfium 04:59, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  South Island Virtual Presence Post  

message: The version given here is a North Island Māori one. In the south, it was "the canoe of Aoraki"—Te Waka a Aoraki, and Māui was a later visitor. In both accounts Māui stood on Kaikōura Peninsula and fished up the North Island. I'll see to this at some stage. Koro Neil (talk) 14:28, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Maori Legend

message: In the mark-up, the statistics box says "ethnic groups". Why does this show up as "Indigenous people"? How do we get the Wikipedia powers that be to change this bizarre piece of coding? In an earlier version of this article, the editor had stated, correctly, "ethnic groups    = Māori, European". This showed up, incorrectly, as "Indigenous people   Māori, European", and a subsequent editor quite reasonably re-edited it to "ethnic groups    = Māori", so that it would read, "Indigenous people   Māori". Less reasonably, s/he pointed out the previous editor's "error" in the edit summary.
Koro Neil (talk) 03:45, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand your puzzlement, but this would be better raised at Template talk:Infobox Islands, where you might attract the attention of those who maintain this template.-gadfium 06:36, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cheers, Gadfium. There's always someone who knows where to look for these things. For the rest of us there's often no way to find out where to look. I took it to the Village Pump's technical section. Pegasus has fixed it. Koro Neil (talk) 09:48, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Idiotic Wikipedia code turns fact into fallacy 

message: The South Island has always been merely a geographical rather than a political or administrative or even a separate cultural entity.  It is ridiculous to divide the section into politics, religion, culture, etc when you find there is no such thing in the article on the North Island. I won't recant what I have said here even if you native South Islanders start issuing death threats.--JNZ (talk) 10:14, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've struck an inflammatory comment above. Please discuss the content of the article in a productive manner.-gadfium 08:57, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

text: I restored the comment without reading through to the end, certainly do without the last part. Some of the article appeared to be written with a "South Island independence" bias, probably in breach of NPOV and a fringe viewpoint. XLerate (talk) 06:36, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is sheer madness 

message: The entire section on glaciers seemed to be a lightly reworded copy of selected parts of this Te Ara page, so I've removed it. (See WP:COPYVIO.) It was added by  in August 2009:
diff. -- Avenue (talk) 13:05, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've now replaced it with text from Glaciers of New Zealand. -- Avenue (talk) 13:12, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apparent copyright violation 

message: Sorry 118.93.47.158, but having these in the table doesn't work for me either, just adding busy-ness to the table. Plus: (1) The "Regional" column results in mass duplication; (2) The official coats of arm are in fact seldom used now - eg Christchurch. Snori (talk) 22:36, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Flags, logos and coats of arms...

message: The section on radio stations is very messy and could do with a good clean up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.93.54.4 (talk) 08:05, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Radio Stations section 

message: In an optimistic attempt to start delisting sections of this article, I've culled back the media section considerably. The previous version of the article can be viewed here, and if someone believes it should be split of into its own list or article then feel free (I don't which is why I didn't do it myself). Hope I havn't stepped on anyone's toes here, but thought someone should get the delisting process going. - Shudde talk 13:28, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delisting media section 

message: Given that this article acknowledges that the correct spelling in New Zealand is 'fiord' and not 'fjord' (as it is in the rest of the world), does it not follow that all other instances of the word in this article should also use the spelling 'fiord'? I understand that Wikipedia is intended for a global audience, but given that this is an article about New Zealand, surely New Zealand spellings should be used. Given that it is already acknowledged that we use a different spelling, it shouldn't create any confusion for readers. Thoughts?Its-mrb (talk) 07:53, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Updated section to match New Zealand English spelling (other than the sentence explaining the difference exists) to match the section title, which was already spelled 'fiord'. Expecting this to be non-controversial based on lack of comments noted above after 19 months :) Its-mrb (talk) 07:00, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fiords / Fjords 

message: We should work to define what we should include in the museums list. Some seem to be more appropriate than others. 
Should major art galleries be allowed? <- I`ll answer my own question here that there is a separate section already for that.
I think the main one to question being included or not here is Cadbury World.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.109.161.56 (talk) 07:47, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Museums 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Substituted at 06:35, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :South Island's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Census 2018":
From Southland, New Zealand: 
From Canterbury, New Zealand: 
From Nelson, New Zealand: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 14:23, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Thanks AnomieBOT.-gadfium 23:18, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:South Island]]