Talk:Ford GT40

message: I changed British-American to British American (Mk I, MkII, Mk III) or American (Mk IV) to accurately reflect the fact that these are two different designs with two different developmental and production histories. So long as both the earlier Mk I/Mk II based cars and the later Mk IV based models are covered by the same article, and this aspect of the cars design and construction is cited in the article, this is the only correct way to reference this. Syr74 (talk) 07:16, 11 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: American or British

message: In fact the car was never produced by Ford but by John Wyer in England. I don't rember the name of his company.
:But he was essentially a contractor for Ford. He didn't design the cars, but prepared the cars in a Ford workshop in Slough. Check out http://www.gt40.co.uk/gt40st15.html Hotlorp
:::In fact John Wyer was CEO of created FAV (Ford Advanced Vehicles) wich built the first prototypes and a was a subsidiary of Ford. Racing car development was thereafter given to Caroll Shelby. And then Wyer buyed FAV wich was renamed John Wyer automotive Ltd (I'm not 100% sure). The deal give Wyer the right to produce and sell Ford GT40 and most of the right on the GT40. I don't know if Wyer licensed the GT40 to Safir or other replicas maker or not. Some Ford GT40 where also built by Hollman & Moody in the USA and Alan Mann in UK.
:::Ericd
:::Have a look http://www.holmanmoody.com/gt40/gt40home.htm this seems to be the most authentic GT40 produced tpday
:::Ericd
I believe the good title is "Ford GT-40" instead of "Ford GT40". I'm I wrong ?
Ericd 20:33 Apr 14, 2003 (UTC)
:I've seen both forms, more or less in equal amounts. Perhaps Ford used both? A brochure facsimilie saying GT40 is here, so I'm pretty sure GT40 without a dash is not wrong. -- Egil 22:04 Apr 14, 2003 (UTC)
Even Ford was fuzzy I'm quite sure the logo on the car is GT-40.
Ericd 09:58 Apr 16, 2003 (UTC)
If someone could find a basic GT-40 pic this would be cool !
Ericd 01:22, 20 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I see what you mean.  It's possible that they covered more distance at a slower pace with less stops, but not too logical.  We'll have to check on the accuracy of the numbers. --SFoskett 21:23, Jan 11, 2005 (UTC)
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I've removed this (very good) pic because this is a Wyer Mirage M1 not a Ford GT-40. The Miarge M1 is a Gt-40 derivative but has a different cockpit with different air intakes and a 5,7 L engine.
Ericd 15:51, 17 Jan 2005 (UTC)

text: The badge on the back of the original Mk I says GT40 i.e., without the hyphen.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.7.147.13 (talk) 18:48, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Builder

message: "The Lotus Europa was the design put forth by Lotus, who went on to win the Indianapolis 500 with the 4.2 L Fairline engine behind a Lotus 38 monocoque, the first mid-engined car to ever win at Indy. But that was in the future, and the Lola proposal was chosen by American race veterans Carroll Smith and Carroll Shelby, who prefered Eric Broadley's design for their intended V8 drivetrain."
- Chapman may have proposed a design that eventually matured in the Europa but IMO that wasn't the Europa.
- Shelby wasn't involved in the project at that time.
Ericd 13:06, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Serious doubt about accuracy

message: FIA regulations are written in French since the FIA exists. Ericd 13:11, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grand Tourisme/Gran Turismo 

message: The GT-40 replica is a replica ;-). But worse the car doesn't match any historic accuracy. It has the Wyer/FAV stock front body that none of the authentic cars with this livery had used. Ericd 13:20, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: I've had a stab at a template for racing cars (see template:Racing car) to summarise the usual data. I've used the F1 templates as a starting point and applied it to the Brabham BT46 article. If anyone's got an interest in this, please have a look at the template and modify or suggest changes as appropriate. After a few people have had a go at it and we have something we're happy with we could start to use it more widely. Note that it's not meant to be specific to F1, by the way. Cheers. 4u1e 10:35, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Racing car template

message: The caption for the first photo says it is the 1966 Le Mans winner, driven by Ruby and Miles. But the text (and results table) indicate the race was won by Amon and McLaren. DH85868993 03:22, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internal inconsistency 

message: Today, Le Mans has 4 classes.  Was there only one in the 1960's? Will (Talk - contribs) 08:18, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Could someone add text listing the class the GT40 ran in? 

message: The opening sentence states "The Ford GT40 was a high performance sports car and winner of the 24 hours of Le Mans four times in a row, from 1966 to 1969. It was built to win long-distance sports car races against Ferrari (who won at Le Mans six times in a row from 1965 to 1969)."
If Ford won from 66-69, how did Ferrari win from 65-69?
and this time period - assuming that le mans is run once per year - does not even cover 6 years, so how is this possible?
I am completely ignorant on the subject so I wont edit this - but to me this sounds highly dubious.
Anyone know the correct dates or explanation for the figures - or even a source? Gumbacious (talk) 15:47, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The winners are listed at French wiki 24 hr entry table of results (which doesn't need knowledge of French language to be comprehensible).   (I have not checked this to sources outside wiki, tho in general terms it agrees roughly with what I remember.   Roughly.)   Please feel free to tidy up the para in a way that works for you.   Your self declared 'complete ignorance' - even if exaggerated - gives you a much better chance of coming up with something that makes sense to the intelligent generalist than anything a nerdy enthusiast such as myself could manage.   Besides, I'd end up wanting to rewrite the whole thing and annoying everyone especially me.   Happy day.   Charles01 (talk) 16:05, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

text: So I changed my mind... Charles01 (talk) 16:11, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Ah I see that Micjagger has gone ahead and changed this so it makes sense. Gumbacious (talk) 06:17, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible Contradiction?

message: In references the link http://isr.cudlici.com/ChassisFord.html is no longer a valid site - it has been acquired by a spam site operator. I offer my site gt40.net as a replacement. If that is not acceptable then at least the link to http://isr.cudlici.com/ChassisFord.html should be removed. Sorry to place this in the external links section but I did not know how to get to any references section - could not find an edit or talk page for it. Mrrbob (talk) 21:40, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The website itself states the information is sourced from classiccars.com, so it seems reasonable to me that we should be linking to there instead of to a website that seems to either be copy pasting information from another source, or just poorly written and badly incomplete.  Even this website has more information. The359 (Talk) 18:16, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The359 I would be grateful if you would look at the other links as I think they all need removing. Bjmullan (talk) 19:05, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I would definitely remove all of them as none of them are official in any way. Although since that last link to gizmag looks like a good reliable source that I'd try to use in the article. Royalbroil 03:56, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

text: May I suggest that you read the following two guidelines regarding external link and also see the comments above: Wikipedia:External links and Wikipedia:WikiProject External links. If you still feel that the information should be included then you may look at expanding the article. You should also read the guidelines on using multiple accounts (66.172.127.25, 207.32.196.31, Mrrbob) to get your point across (which can & will lead to a ban). The guideline can be found at Wikipedia:Sock puppetry. Bjmullan (talk) 19:20, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: There is a comment in the text which mentions that the MkI, MkII, and MkIII cars were 'entirely British'. While undoubtedly owing a lot of their development to Ford Advanced Vehicles in Britain it is no secret that the cars were rather heavily massaged at Carol Shelby's facility during their development. To be blunt, that makes them somewhat less than 'entirely British'. Even more, neither the Windsor V-8 which powered the MkI and MkIII models, or the FE big block which powered the MkIV models, was ever produced in Britain. The engine for every GT40 ever produced was sourced from the United States. Again, that makes these vehicles somewhat less than 'entirely British'. This needs to be corrected for the sake of accuracy if nothing else. Syr74 (talk) 05:53, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Not Entirely British

message: It would be nice if the J car section had photos of the J car. The J was one of the standard cars included with Aurora XLerators slotless electric race tracks. The other one was a Chaparral 2F. Bizzybody (talk) 07:57, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  J car photos? 

message: The history section says Chassis 101 and Lola Mk.6 had a 4.2L Fairlane engine.  But Lola Mk.6 had a 4.6L displacement when it raced at LeMans in 1963.  Unless someone comes up with clarification/correction, I will be making a change to reflect the 4.6L displacement.  Help would be appreciated.  Yiba (talk | contribs) 04:48, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: GT/101 and Lola Mk.6 displacement

message: "For 1967, the Mk.II's were upgraded to "B" spec; they had re-designed bodywork and twin carburettors for an additional 15 hp. A batch of wrongly heat treated input shafts in the transaxles sidelined virtually every Ford in the race, however, and Ferrari won 1-2-3." - which race exactly is this passage referring to? Monoblocks (talk) 18:14, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomplete content 

message: Someone had blanked the article and I didn't see anything on the talk page suggested that needed to be done so I restored it.82.19.93.148 (talk) 20:46, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restored content 

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message: I altered a sentence in the lede for the sake of clarification. The sentence made it sound as though the GT40 Mk IV was based upon the Lola design that spawned some of the earlier cars and this isn't accurate with the Mk IV and J Cars being a completely independent design. I added some detail to the sentence to avoid confusion here. Syr74 (talk) 22:02, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mk IV Clarification 

message: Does anyone have a photo of the original "Ford GT" (prior to the GT40)?  They were all white with a dark blue front hood (bonnet), and their distinguishing feature was a very thin slit for a radiator intake.  (Although aerodynamically designed, in a high-pressure area, it proved to be inadequate for cooling.)  BMJ-pdx (talk) 14:33, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos of pre-GT40 "Ford GT"? 

message: The "History" section gives the impression that Enzo Ferrari approached Ford regarding a possible Ford purchase of Ferrari.  That's not what I remember from contemporary reports, which were that Ford's easiest path to a Le Mans win would simply be to purchase Ferrari.  BMJ-pdx (talk) 14:42, 15 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who wanted Ford to buy Ferrari? 

message: Isnt 40 inches the minimum allowable height, not maximum? Why would you want to make your car's frontal area as big as possible? The 40 was supposed to be bragging about what a LOW car they achieved, whivh is why they could only fit short drivers into it. A 40 inch max would be nonsensical, most of the cars would be sigificantly LESS than 40 inches high, and the GT40 is already ridiculously low.
64.222.110.91 (talk) 05:49, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  40 inch max height? 

message: "It was one of the most advanced racing cars of the time and made a noted performance in Le Mans 1963, even though the car did not finish, due to low gearing and slow revving out on the Mulsanne Straight. "
Why would it be "slow revving" if it had "low gearing"? S C Cheese (talk) 09:11, 5 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It wasn’t, but it’s not likely to be corrected. For example the GT40 wasn’t actually based upon the Lola Mk6 and there has never been any real evidence to suggest that it was. Rather, the Lola Mk6 was a precursor designed to secure the contract with Ford who then almost immediately bought out that contract and built the GT40 upon the design concept laid out by the Mk6. Think of the relationship between the VW Beetle and a 50’s Porsche and you’ll be in the right ballpark. This isn’t even argued within the serious enthusiast community on any side of the pond, But, this also won’t get corrected because Wikipedia is rife with people pushing agendas rather than reality. 2600:1004:B16E:1C58:6479:C0D0:9706:64D8 (talk) 02:18, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lola 1963