Talk:The Guns of the South

message: It is unclear how large an area is occupied.  But from Mollie's statement that it is three or four miles to Rivington from the point where the initial advance after Pleasants' explosion stalls, I would be generous and put Rivington in the middle of a ten mile radius.  That still is small by North Carolina standards.  To say "large portion" of the state implies occupation, say, from Wilmington to Raleigh.--Wehwalt 02:25, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a very large area at all. If you've read the book, which includes a map, and are familiar with the area, the fictional town of Rivington is located roughly in the same spot as the actual town of Whitakers, North Carolina, about 10 miles north of Rocky Mount. The real town of Nashville, where Nate Caudell lives in the book, is six miles west of Rocky Mount. This entire section of the book takes place in Nash County, North Carolina. Jsc1973 (talk) 20:14, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Large portion of North Carolina?" 

message: The plot summary had been very, very long for some years, after the addition of a long, blow-by-blow account to an early revision.  I've trimmed it back using an earlier revision. . --Tony Sidaway 19:29, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cheers!  —  pd_THOR | =/\= | 20:25, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot summary 

message: I can't blame whoever for getting carried away but that was a heckuva anachronistic book. If you love anachronisms (things out of place and how famous people would marvel at them) you'll have to have this book. I know I got carried away describing The Burning Mountain by Alfred Coppel.Chris-marsh-usa (talk) 05:37, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whose revision? 

message: I understand that a long, detailed plot exposition is unencyclopedic.  But now it has been chopped to the point that the AWB men are referred to as "Rivington men", with no antecedent, so that the article reader may not even understand how they had based themselves in Rivington, N.C.  69.96.228.35 (talk) 13:13, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overcompensation? 

message: From two tables in the back of the book, we learn the results of two presidential elections. One is an alternate version of the 1864 US Presidential Election and the other is the 1867 Confederate States Presidential Election. While I got the information down on my sandbox, I wish I could add a map of the electoral votes from those two elections. Unfortunately, no such maps has been made (at least on either Wikipedia or Wikimedia) to my knowledge. To anyone who sees this request, could you please attempt to make the two maps of the election results. I will list the information below containing which candidates won electoral votes from whatever state they carried below. I wish anyone who decides to make this map good luck!
===United States presidential election, 1864 results from the novel===
The states that voted for Democratic candidate Horatio Seymour and his running mate Clement Vallandigham were New York (33), Pennsylvania (26), Ohio (21), Indiana (13), Kentucky (11), Missouri (11), Wisconsin (8), Maryland (7), Oregon (3), and California (5). He won the election and carried these ten states with 138 electoral votes.
The states that Republican incumbent President Abraham Lincoln and incumbent Vice President Hannibal Hamlin were Maine (7), New Hampshire (5), Vermont (5), Massachusetts (12), Rhode Island (4), Connecticut (6), Michigan (8), West Virginia (5), Illinois (16), Minnesota (4), Iowa (8), and Nevada (3). Lincoln came in second place and carried 12 states with 83 electoral votes.
The other two candidates that were known to win states were Radical Republican John C. Frémont and his running mate Andrew Johnson, who only won three electoral votes from Kansas and Independent George McClellan and his running mate Edward Everett, who only won 10 electoral votes from Delaware (3) and New Jersey (7).
===Confederate States presidential election, 1867 results from the novel===
The states that voted for Confederate Party nominee Robert E. Lee and his running mate Albert Gallatin Brown are Florida (4), Georgia (12), Kentucky (14), North Carolina (12), Tennessee (14), and Virginia (13). Lee and Brown carried 69 electoral votes from these six states.
The states that voted for Patriot Party nominee Nathan Bedford Forrest and his running mate Louis Wigfall are Alabama (11), Arkansas (6), Louisiana (8), Mississippi (9), South Carolina (8), and Texas (8). Forrest and Wigfall received 50 electoral votes from these six states.
--JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 14:30, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, never mind to that. JerrySA1 was able to create both maps and I added them to the article. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:00, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Election Map Requests 10/18/2017

message: The states that voted for Confederate Party nominee Robert E. Lee and his running mate Albert Gallatin Brown are Florida (4), Georgia (12), Kentucky (14), North Carolina (12), Tennessee (14), and Virginia (13). Lee and Brown carried 69 electoral votes from these six states.
The states that voted for Patriot Party nominee Nathan Bedford Forrest and his running mate Louis Wigfall are Alabama (11), Arkansas (6), Louisiana (8), Mississippi (9), South Carolina (8), and Texas (8). Forrest and Wigfall received 50 electoral votes from these six states.
--JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 14:30, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, never mind to that. JerrySA1 was able to create both maps and I added them to the article. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:00, 25 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Confederate States presidential election, 1867 results from the novel

message: As both the 1864 United States presidential election and the 1867 Confederate States presidential elections get referenced in the book with a good amount of details, I figured that some election infoboxes consiting of the two elections would be a good idea. Info will be posted below. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:45, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Election Infoboxes