Talk:Richard Manitoba

message: The 1st and 4th say little of Manitoba, save that he essentially became a member because he was too much a liability as a road. The 2nd is a link to his restaurant. The 3rd has no reference to RM. 
::I removed 3rd external link.70.54.181.70 (talk) 19:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: External links say little

message: Johnny Rotten isn't; neither is Iggy Pop. Even Ozzy Osbourne is simply categorized as a :Category:British harmonica players.
::I got him out of the musician categories. (Maybe someone can find a video of him playing something.)70.54.181.70 (talk) 19:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Why is Richard Manitoba in the musician categories?

message: is not only redlined, but isn't even mentioned in The Ramones
::I removed the red-lines and references to Ramones.70.54.181.70 (talk) 19:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: JP "Thunderbolt" Patterson

message: The article makes no references to Dick Manitoba, though Google videos does show him and Dee Snider chatting for a few minutes.
::I removed the section, but merged it with another.70.54.181.70 (talk) 19:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: ''[[Kiss Loves You]]''

message: The first edit of this article was done slightly over 4 years ago, and the content has changed little since then. The account, User:Urbanshocker, that created it seems to be a single purpose account that has been blocked for sockpuppetry. A good chunk of this article is more or less copied from The Dictators article, from which it should be merged with. If there is pruning of this article for reasons stated above, than merging would make even more sense.70.54.181.70 (talk) 16:21, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia:Merging]]

message: We now have quite a scatter of points on the Talk Page.  These seem to be the ones where we need consensus:
*Merging.  I really don't think so.  Wikipedia criteria for notability are very low indeed, and Manitoba's career outside The Dictators easily meets them.
::That he was in some re-tread called "Animal Kingdom" (Wikipedia:No one cares about your garage band),did a few gigs with MC5 in 2005-6 14 years after Rob Tyner died, and 35 or so years after MC5 was relevant, has a bar, and for all I know, vandalizes Wikipedia articles about himself? I'll keep it in mind when I do a few of my articles (Wikipedia:Other stuff exists). Galaxy (band) is more worthy of an article than this guy, but I have nothing notable save a few blogs. But if this article is the standard, I won't have to worry about notability. I can do an OR, elaborate, revert edits by others using sockpuppets, and if I keep it up for a few years, it'll be established enough that I can resist merging, much more deletion.70.54.181.70 (talk) 19:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "An article's coverage of individual events or opinions involving its subject may be verifiable and impartial, but still disproportionate to their overall significance to the topic."What in the article is more significant?"This is an important consideration when reporting on recent events that may be in the news."Something that happened 6 years ago is hardly a recent event."Note that undue weight can be given in several ways, including, but not limited to, depth of detail, quantity of text, prominence of placement, and juxtaposition of statements."It takes a fraction of the article.Besides the section mentions flat Earth and fringe theories and NPOV. What's so POV about the lawsuit?"The merits of the suit are not the point here: just whether it's good practice at Wikipedia to include sections in biographies dealing with lawsuits which were settled out of court.  Clearly this isn't usually done, and I don't see any grounds to make this a special case."Check this. "Kildall obtained a copy of PC-DOS, examined it, and concluded that it infringed on CP/M. When he asked Gerry Davis what legal options were available, Davis told him that intellectual property law for software was not clear enough to sue. Instead Kildall only threatened IBM with legal action, and IBM responded with a proposal to offer CP/M-86 as an option for the PC in return for a release of liability."We also have it with Michael Jackson  here: "On January 1, 1994, Jackson's insurance company settled with the Chandlers out of court for $22 million, after which Jordan stopped co-operating regarding criminal proceedings. Jackson was never charged, and the state closed its criminal investigation, citing lack of evidence."70.54.181.70 (talk) 19:05, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trying to organize the discussion 

message: Manitoba had been part of a project that recorded a rock album under the name "Manitoba's Wild Kingdom" that was released by MCA records in 1990. In 2004 he became aware that Canadian recording artist Daniel Snaith's electronic project had been releasing albums under the name "Manitoba" (also the name a Canadian province) since 2000. Once aware of this, Manitoba had Snaith informed that he considered the situation to be a within the scope of trademark infringement. Snaith disagreed, commenting: "It's like The Smiths suing John Smith or something" but complied by changing the project's name to Caribou_(musician) rather than having the dispute decided in a court of law."  66.108.243.166 (talk) 08:34, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I just removed the above copy from the article as "Unreferenced snark". I am seeing from above that this is a repeated instance of using Wikipedia to score personal points. Definitely unacceptable. Wwwhatsup (talk) 23:41, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: this is easy to verify with google just google dan snaith manitoba. im reinstating it. 174.21.232.232 (talk) 08:43, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  That ref does clarify things a little. I can see this story is of major concern to Snaith, however as far as Richard Manitoba goes it is trivial and not notable. What's more there does not appear to be any independent confirmation of the details beyond Snaith as interviewed. I have again removed it. Since this story has been repeatedly replaced in the article when others before me have removed it, the three revert rule would appear to be in effect. I shall not hesitate to request the article be protected if needed. Wwwhatsup (talk) 10:51, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  After the section was again put in the article, I have requested temporary semi-protection. Wwwhatsup (talk) 06:06, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Trademark claim of the name "Manitoba"

message: I have done some general clean up on the article. Since practically everything is now reffed I have removed the BLP sources tag. Wwwhatsup (talk) 21:25, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of BLP sources tag

message: I have noticed on two occasions there have been reversions regarding the story of Dick's arrest, even though it was sourced (albeit user did not format the link 100% correctly).  
On one occasion, the comment was merely "delete", the other time was "BLP vio", which is amusing considering there was a sentence that appeared to have been written by Mr Manitoba himself.
This feels a lot like friends/fans/the man himself removing news details that aren't flattering to him.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TravellerInStygian (talk • contribs) 16:10, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  reversions of story of arrest