Talk:Social safety net

message: I removed the part about gun laws because in "bowling for columbine" michael moore states that gun ownership is much higher per captia in canada.  Also, Belgium and Switzerland have extremely liberal gun laws, and much lower violent crime.  I wouldn't have made the edit if there was a relevant reference. 24.98.251.37 17:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gun laws

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message: Won't another depression happend if the state loses to much money? Then how can "the social safety net" prevents us from a depression if the goverment loses it's money?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.251.83.161 (talk) 13:45, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another depression? 

message: User:Safety Nets WB's first act as a registered editor was to rewrite this article from scratch. I have advised him or her that this is not cricket. —Tamfang (talk) 06:47, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  newbie 

message: I'm completely new on wikipedia and had no idea how to go about content modifications. I am very sorry if revamping the whole social safety net content insulted you. I am hereby asking you for forgiveness and to understand my endevour. 
The reason why I wanted to change the whole social safety net content is the following. Safety nets in social sciencies are complex programs that require well though-out design, implementation and evaluation processes. Around the globe, thousands and thousands of programs have been designed with so many mistakes that they are prone to fail from inception. In the end, the benefits, very often too low, do not justify the costs. A large number of developing countries in Afria, Asia and Latin America cannot afford to waste money, let alone during current crises.
The content already in place was too simple to explain the complexity of social safety nets. The content I will upload will provide policy makers, practitioners, and academic groups with the rationale and guidelines on how best to design, implement and evaluate such programs. If you let me upload the content and start from scratch you will see what I'm talking about. Once I do this, you will be able to modify as much as you can. In the end, that is the idea. For us all to share useful information and improve the knowledge among the people that will make substantial changes for the humanity.
Thanks for your time and your consideration. 
Truly yours,
Safety Nets WB (talk) 14:10, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not the place to discuss questions of policy! —Tamfang (talk) 05:39, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sincere apologies 

message: Dear all,
Since a week has past since I last posted my msg and no one seems interested in debating, I will be making some content changes with due arguments this week. Please feel free to debate with me. I am more than open-minded and I'm opened for suggestions.
Cheers,
Safety Nets WB (talk) 15:25, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modifications coming soon 

message: Thanks for the help in reformatting and comments. Here's my feedback.
In the first paragraph, there is no precise issue, just a more specific definition of the providers of SSN in two broad categories that can be compared and more clearly understood by the audience. Public, which include states and large international organizations that spend substantial amounts of human and capital resources, that usually spend taxpayers money, and are more or less centralized. And private, which are smaller, mobilize less resources, they do not use taxpayers money but private, and tend to be decentralized and community-driven. I guess we can make it clearer by stating these differences. 
You are absolutely right, it is worth mentioning different definitions of safety nets in different places. 
As for sources, I would kindly ask you to be a little bit more patient. I'm not done uploading the whole information (hence the inuse application) plus I'm learning by doing. I will eventually upload all of the sources which come from the literature of safety nets.
Cheers,
Safety Nets WB (talk) 16:11, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I notice that you added line-breaks after your first draft of these remarks.  Why?  WP interprets a blank line as a paragraph break already.  Was that not enough whitespace for you? —Tamfang (talk) 01:51, 8 August 2009 (UTC)

text: And now I see you've undone at least some of the changes I made to bring the article in line with WIKIPEDIA FORMATTING STANDARDS.  Through metaphoric gritted teeth I ask: Why?  —Tamfang (talk) 14:50, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

text: The bullets are what I noticed. —Tamfang (talk) 06:40, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thank you 

message: Something about the style (and volume) of the new content makes me think it was copied from elsewhere, which of course is against the rules. —Tamfang (talk) 15:11, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  source? 

message: SNWB tells me the article is finished.  Now it needs to be examined for neutrality; as a bit of a crank I may not be the best one to do that.  There are some phrases that bother me, e.g.: "an increasing number of safety net programs are extremely well thought out, correctly implemented, and demonstrably effective"; in general, little if any distinction is made between a program's nominal intent and its actual effect.  —Tamfang (talk) 20:42, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  and now ... 

message: There is a reference to two figures in the text, which implies, to me, either they where removed and the text needs rewriting, or the text was copied and pasted from another, possibly copyrighted source. Any arguments to the contrary?--Jeff (talk) 07:15, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Figure A/Figure B? Where are they? 

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