Talk:Autochrome Lumière

message: :Copying this discussion here from my talk page.  It was specifically about the primary color article, but is relevant here. -- jacobolus
Hi, thanks for keeping on top of changes there; just curious about your comment:
:no, autochrome didn't use 6 primaries
From the autochrome article it sounds as though the patent certainly describes six (possibly more)?
quota 17:36, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK if I butt in here?  See the patent.  I think the article needs to be amended and this patent cited.  It says one layer of three (or optionally more) colors, I think, though I haven't read it all carefully yet. Dicklyon 21:21, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for finding the patent!  I'll add it to the Autochrome article, which also definitely needs an update.  The patent clearly says "They are colored by means of colors also transparent in orange, green, and violet, or else in red, yellow, and blue, or even in any number of colors."  -- so Primary Color needs a bit of clarification, too.  I'll have a go... quota 07:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

text:  Thanks for tracking that down Dicklyon!  It looks to me like the patent tries to be broad, but most (perhaps all) actual use of Autochrome was with three primaries, though the exact color could vary.  But maybe I'm reading that wrong? --jacobolus (t) 00:07, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Patents are written as broadly as possible.  Everything I've read on the actual autochrome plates says orange, green, and violet. Dicklyon 01:34, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Kudos for finding the patent. When I copyedited this a while ago I realised the ref to six primaries was wrong (the original edit almost certainly referred to the resulting (secondary) colours when two primary coloured grains overlapped) but couldn't find the patent to disprove it. Good call. mikaultalk 13:59, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

text:  Right, exactly. :) --jacobolus (t) 23:13, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  number of primaries 

message: Pitch isn't "crude pine sap" as this article suggests but the more or less solid part of the distillate of pine wood 121.79.12.138 (talk) 16:27, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
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message: The Library of Photography book on color (still available used from any number of sources) shows several Autochrome pictures. They are so richly saturated that one wonders whether they are Autochromes. Does anyone know? WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 01:35, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: photos in the TIME-LIFE ''Color'' volume

message: In a good Parisian camera shop in 1915, you could buy not only "les plaques Lumière" (including "plaques Autochromes Lumière") but also "les films Kodak". A good camera shop in a large US city, and probably also in London, stocked "Lumière plates" (including "Lumière Autochrome plates") and "Kodak films". Yes, the boxes say "plaques Autochromes Lumière", but that is because they were printed in France and the text is in French—the maker's name is not an integral part of the product name, any more than "Kodak" is an integral part of the name of Ektachrome film. Should English-language Wikipedia articles be named using French syntax? Should the "Cadillac" article be renamed "General Motors Cadillac"? This article has been "Autochrome Lumière" since its founding over ten years ago, which, IMHO, means that it is ten years overdue for a rational renaming to simply "Autochrome". I am but a lowly copy editor, unfamiliar with the procedures for "moving" articles, not particularly interested in learning them, and apt to muck it up on my first try. Is there an adept out there who will second the motion and do the deed? Are there any arguments to the contrary? AVarchaeologist (talk) 00:35, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Granted, it's not high on the Cosmic Importance scale, but it always strikes me, and presumably at least a few other people, as decidedly peculiar and a bit jarring. When linking to the article I always feel obliged to pipe to the full name, a minor nuisance. More relevant to the purposes of Wikipedia, it has probably led at least one student to turn in an assignment reporting that people a hundred years ago could take color photos by using "Autochrome Lumière" (with consequent need for that accent grave), resulting in a raised eyebrow and a less favorable evaluation on the part of the recipient. But perhaps that's just Autochrome paranoia... AVarchaeologist (talk) 22:29, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Autochrome Lumière" to just plain "Autochrome" anyone? 

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message: I heard mention on dutch TV that the potato starch photography process is lost. - Or can it still be reproduced?
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message: Obviously there are those (probably descendants of the Light Brothers - like the Wright Brothers who evidently invented heavier-than-air flight all by themselves [lol]), who are apparently only aware of the Autochrome process: but there were most certainly others whose equally stunning efforts are equally amazing, but which get relegated to 'See also' status. Hmm. MinorProphet (talk) 12:33, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
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