Talk:West End, Vancouver

message: Hi Skookum1.  You're adding lots of great content, but citing your sources is equal in importance to the content itself if the article is to survive and be trusted, so I hope you don't mind me asking you about a couple of things in your last edit...
* I find the "Blue Blood Alley" story interesting.  What's your source or where can I found out more about it?
* The previous article said, "Vancouverites define the West End as the residential area west of Burrard St. and south of Georgia St., both major thoroughfares." You've added, "The technical meaning of the term, however, refers to everything between Burrrard Street and Stanley Park, including north of Georgia."  What's your source for that?  I would be inclined to yield to the technical definitions of neighbourhoods defined by the City itself at  -- which the previous edit matches well.
I don't want to leave on a nitpicky tone, so thanks again for the contributions! --Ds13 19:31, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  "Blueblood alley" actually refers to Georgia Street, as cited at the city website and here. --Clapaucius 21:57, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Lacking further comment on the boundary question I had above, I've done what I believe to be an improvement in the wording and citing. --Ds13 20:10, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's one version of Blueblood Alley, I think it was in Maj Mathews' Early Vancouver or another history of early Vancouver I saw the West Pender St mention; but yes there were fancy mansions on Georgia too; the term may have migrated also; on Georgia the mansions were around Jervis; on Pender they were back in the thick of what is now the financial district, i.e. Pender & Thurlow area, also West Hastings in the same area; make no mistake, the money that owned those houses were the ones who urbanized the area into towers.....and moved on to Shaughnessy and West Point Grey/Kerrisdale and West Van....Skookum1 (talk) 04:13, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I removed this: "The West End, which gets its name from the West End School built in 1891...," and added "probably" and removed the date. I cited Morley, the only reference I found, because he notes that there was an East End School, Central School, and West End School. Daphne Marlatt and Carole Itter in Vancouver's East End claim that the East End (now Strathcona) was named after the school there, so I think it makes sense that the West End did as well (establishing the right and wrong side of the tracks, it seems..). Morley also says that there were 5 schools by 1890, including these 3 unimaginatively named ones, which is why I took out the date. I also know Strathcona was built in that year, so the original entry may have confused the two. But if anyone comes across a more confident source, feel free to update. I just wanted to get rid of the citation needed tag.Bobanny 07:02, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: :The West End, which probably gets its name from the West End School", ref. Allan Morley, Vancouver: From Milltown to Metropolis,3rd.ed. Vancouver: Mitchell Press, 1974, p. 135.
I've read Morley and don't recall that; what's the exact wording from p.135?  "West End" and "East End" are common anglicisms for the "end" of a village/town, which to me was always the origin; the school would have been named on that premise IMO.Skookum1 (talk) 16:14, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Name origin

message: This has gotta be somehow citable, though tons of work; Isy's crossed my mind (it ended its life as teh metro, which some here may remember; ne3xt to the Christian Science church)....and but more of a book than a wiki article I suppose; Wiki-style it's just about where the3 bar licneses were; book-style it's who hung out where, most modern Vancouverites aren't aware taht one fo the city's top live rooms was the basement room in what's now Celebrities; it was called the Retinal Circus....).  But I'm also thinking of the Blue, the Ritz, the Sylvia, th tour de bar and the changes wrought in the disco and neighbourhood pub and restaruants-with-booze eras as t hey each changed the place.  Again too much OR but certain joints deserve mention; the Metro/Isy's is definitely one, long-gone though it is...Skookum1 (talk) 04:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know... then we'd have to get into the teenage hookers that partially led to the traffic calming... well I guess it did happen :-o -John Mytton (talk) 17:50, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: History of nightlife int he WEst End

message: re this addition it's worth noting that it was a persecution of hookers and johns down in the Downtown EAstside that first got the girls (and the boys) to take up strolls on Davie, Burnaby, Jervis, Broughton etc; they came to the West End to make a point, and it proved profitable; same as when the cops started ticketing and putsching panhandlers down on East Hastings; begging which had been limited to that area suddenly was all over the West End, and Kits and beyond..... so while the addition is valuable there's more history as to why the area had become notorious for prostitution; city policy made it happen, and it took the courts to pressure them out; there's some books around on the history of prostitution in Vancouver, it's really a whole article of its own one day.Skookum1 (talk) 04:17, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  prostitution re Social Issues section