Talk:HS2000

message: I noticed the cons section is appropriately labeled with a weasel words identifier.  Most of what is contained in the cons section seems to be personal opinion and comes across as both wordy and biased.  I'm going to clean it up.  Before reverting, explain why and/or add citations for some of the claims.  Beatdown (talk) 14:49, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: does wikipedia have a policy on pros and cons lists? 67.173.1.71 (talk) 02:23, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cons 

message: According to HS2000talk.com, Springfield Armory doesn't manufacture the XD pistol-- it imports them from Croatia. "The XD is manufactured in Croatia by a company HS Produkt. SA has sole importation rights to the HS2000 in North America." (HS2000talk) Therefore, "The Springfield Armory XD ("X-Treme Duty") pistol is based on the Croatian HS 2000" is an untrue statement since the XD is a rebranded HS2000.
Sandcrawler 09:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Springfield Armory XD / HS Produkt HS2000 

message: "wrist is held such that a 1911 syle pistol would be pointed more towards the ground" Does this mean that the Glock grip is more perpendicular? --Gbleem 16:23, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Glock pistols have the grip at a greater angle (19 degrees) than do 1911s (about 12 degrees).  Holding a 1911 like a Glock would make the 1911 point downward.  Thernlund (Talk | Contribs) 21:03, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  grip angle 

message: Are there any reputable online sources on the Springfield XDM? I know several magazines currently have articles about it, but I can't seem to find anything online. GRIMDARK Thinker (talk) 00:22, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Who cares, and no. — DP5 03:43, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Springfield XD<sup>M</sup> 

message: I was previously under the impression that Springfield had licensed the design from HS, but was manufacturing the XDs domestically; I realize this may be incorrect.  However, the citation saying that the XDs are manufactured in Croatia and imported by Springfield is a dead link.  Can someone find an updated reference for this?  -Zachcoggin (talk) 01:02, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I know the most recent examples I have seen still say made in Croatia on them, but I'll look around.  Faceless Enemy (talk) 22:13, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Springfield Armory - producer vs. importer? 

message: This may have been one of the weapons used in the 2011 Seal Beach shooting, but the sourcing is unclear.. Is this gun described as a 9-millimeter Springfield?--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:31, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps, but that would not be worth noting in the article anyway, at this point. ROG5728 (talk) 09:56, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  2011 Seal Beach shooting 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The XDM 4.5" and 5.25" both now are offered in 10mm. I played with it some but was screwing up the columns. Can somebody good with the charts make the chage?? https://www.springfield-armory.com/xdm-series/
Msjayhawk (talk) 20:56, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional Caliber (10mm) 

message: I propose that Springfield Armory XD content (including the table of variants) be moved to its own Springfield Armory XD page, which currently redirects to HS2000#Springfield Armory. Historical discussion (see "Requested Move" above) from a decade ago resulted in the current single page for HS2000 and Springfield Armory XD. Now, there are a significant (and still growing) number of Springfield Armory XD variants and models, which are far removed from the original HS2000. For example, the XD-E (external hammer) variant is a unique Springfield Armory offering, with no HS2000-family equivalent. Nor are there Mod.2 ("Grip Zone") variants of HS2000, that's also unique to the Springfield Armory XD. HS2000 history, design, and users would remain on the HS2000 page. Input from other editors welcome. Thanks. Dmoore5556 (talk) 02:15, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting proposal 

message: It is mentioned that HS2000's do not require the trigger to be pulled for disassembly.  I'm not sure of your sources on that, but it is not true.  Actuating the disassembly lever requires the slide to be locked back, and when the slide is subsequently released, the striker is caught on the sear and prevents the slide from coming off the frame.  Therefore a trigger pull is required to remove the slide from the frame.
If you are wondering about my sources, I own every single variant of the HS2000 that was produced and am currently writing a book on the history of Croatian small arms.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jflayer (talk • contribs) 02:33, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, thanks for the note. I just checked the history for the page. The statement in question was added by user  in February 2016. A source was not provided, so I just added a "citation needed" flag in the article. If you know of an online reliable source (such as a user manual, or a published review) that states a trigger pull is needed, that can be used to update the article. Else, I'll find some time in the next day or two to look online for something definitive. Thanks. Dmoore5556 (talk) 03:01, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I just located field stripping instructions for the HS2000 HERE. Indeed, Step 5 states "Pull the trigger to fully unlock the side from the frame." I will update the article accordingly now, and cite the source. Dmoore5556 (talk) 03:12, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disassembly