Talk:Levon (song)

message: Excuse me, I added info about song but didn't get how to insert link correctly  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aleks.arsen (talk • contribs) 14:28, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
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message: The article seems to make the lyrics more difficult than they seem, for example, describing "Alvin Tostig" as "semi-non-existent." He isn't "semi-non-existent"; he's a fictional character who exists only in the context of the song. --Metropolitan90 04:16, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Taupin is from Wessex as was the real-life Tostig, Earl of Wessex, from whom "Alvin" may be fictionally descended.   Taupin may also have been using a name very similar to futurist Alvin Toffler, whose Future Shock was making a big impression at the time; it makes sense in some readings of this yes, hard to fathom song.  Wasted Time R 04:47, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The lyrics aren't that inscrutable ... 

message: "Levon wears his war wound like a crown" refers to being used as a "pawn" in warfare"
Actually the "pawn" referred to in the statement "he was born a pauper to a pawn" refers to Alvin Tostig, not Levon. Levon is the "pauper." If he was born poor, that may explain why he spends his days counting his money.
I agree with the above statement.  The "He" in "He was born a pauper to a pawn..." refers to Levon, therefore Levon is the pauper and Alvin is the pawn. Tzittnan 19:55, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pawn 

message: I added the source template. Particularly the interpretation of the song must be sourced, or it cannot remain. Anchoress 01:28, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Noticed that there are now references. Some of the content still isn't sourced but I'll flag items individually and remove the template. Also, one of the sources, a yahoogroup isn't ideal. Ideally, a credible source can be procured. Anchoress 21:08, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source template 

message: The article puts the meaning of the song in the history section. I don't think this is the proper place. Also, this part says thats the son Jesus is born on Christmas Day, but it is Levon that is born on Christmas Day.Vikingboy0129 20:48, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree about the history thing. I placed the references tag in February, I'm back now to remove it and do some tweaking. Re; the Jesus thing, I'll flag it. It seems from the lyrics that the Christmas Day line is referring to Levon, but some references on the lyric interpretation would be good. Anchoress 21:08, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  History in article 

message: I believe that it is in correct to assert that "His son, irreverently named "Jesus" ... was born on Christmas Day". It's very clear in the song that Levon was born on Christmas Day. Which could be another reason for his religiousness. I understand that the hook occurs the second time right after a line about Jesus, but assuming that one followed the other would suggest that Levon and Jesus are brothers and we know that isn't the case.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.55.245.30 (talk) 01:07, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christmas Day 

message: I left a contribution to this subject yesterday and see that it appears to have been deleted today. 
No explanation has been offered so I can only assume someone didn't like it.
The comment was made, in the spirit of talk and intended as a positive contribution to this subject. It was not intended to cause any offense or upset.
Under the circumstances I will not attempt make any further contributions.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Surfingus (talk • contribs) 04:31, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Your comment did not seem to discuss sourced material for the article. I removed it as "chat" about the subject of the article, in line with our talk page guidelines. For further information, please refer to the notice I had left on your talk page at that time. Thanks. - SummerPhD (talk) 02:22, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
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message: (edit conflict) Following sources for others to check for reliability and use:
* Book about Elton: https://www.google.com/books/edition/His_Song/RBN6mKz83kgC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=levon%20%22elton%20john%22%20-wiki&pg=PA42&printsec=frontcover&bsq=levon%20%22elton%20john%22%20-wiki
* Another book about Elton: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Elton_John_Fifty_Years_On/HUeqDwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=levon%20%22elton%20john%22%20-wiki&pg=PT36&printsec=frontcover&bsq=levon%20%22elton%20john%22%20-wiki
* Book about Levon Helm: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Levon/N6C8DwAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=levon%20%22elton%20john%22%20-wiki&pg=PT214&printsec=frontcover&bsq=levon%20%22elton%20john%22%20-wiki
* Book about cover versions: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Who_Did_It_First/4egLBAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=levon%20%22elton%20john%22%20-wiki&pg=PA124&printsec=frontcover&bsq=levon%20%22elton%20john%22%20-wiki
* Songbook of Elton's songs: https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Little_Black_Songbook_Elton_John/TovHDgAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=levon%20%22elton%20john%22%20-wiki&pg=RA3-PA1980&printsec=frontcover&bsq=levon%20%22elton%20john%22%20-wiki
* Book about rock music: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Philosophy_at_33_1_3_Rpm/8bgaBzAh03oC?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=levon%20%22elton%20john%22%20-wiki&pg=PA34&printsec=frontcover&bsq=levon%20%22elton%20john%22%20-wiki
* Article about one of "farewell tours": https://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/ct-ent-elton-john-farewell-tours-20220205-e67ge2jjnzbsjf6jilr3obrlem-story.html
George Ho (talk) 11:32, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources