Talk:Sam Francis (writer)

message: Never married 57 year old Christian conservative who railed against pornography, sodomy and miscegenation...There has to be more information here. The man had no personal life? He never even dated? No parents? No church he attended? Where is the rest of the biography here? 173.117.169.78 (talk) 11:54, 25 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal Life

message: The second link in "external links," the one to samfrancis.net, no longer functions, as the domain name has expired (presumably, whoever owned it did not renew it). Does anyone have another link to his articles published in Chronicles? If so, could you add it, please? Godfrey Daniel (talk) 21:34, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: External Links

message: Does anyone, such as maybe the original anonymous author, have a citation for this quotation? It doesn't Google. -Willmcw 01:28, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Go to this site and search for the word 'well-mannered' , it's there. --B Sveen
Thanks for finding it. Here it is:
Another featured speaker at AR conferences has been Sam Francis, a former
Washington Times columnist who was dismissed in September 1995 after his
racial views were publicized by conservative writer Dinesh D'Souza.
Francis has since become a writer, editor and lecturer for another outpost
of well-mannered white supremacy, the Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC),
and an outspoken advocate of separation of the races. In a presentation at the
1994 AR convention, Francis stated that white Americans must reassert our
identity and our solidarity, and we must do so in explicitly racial terms
through the articulation of a racial consciousness as whites....The civilization
we as whites created in Europe and America could not have developed apart from
the genetic endowment of the creating people, nor is there any reason to believe
that the civilization can be successfully transmitted to a different people.
It seems to me that the CCC is the "outpost of well-mannered white supremacy," so it isn't a literal quote to say that Francis is their advocate, but a rather a logical surmise. We should leave the quote but drop the quotation marks. -Willmcw 02:09, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Well-mannered?

message: Let's cut back on the lengthy block quotes. This is an encyclopedia article, and sohold be succinct. -Will Beback 18:13, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: His words are widely avaialbe for those who wish to read the original comments. Our job is to summarize. Where quotes aqre absolutely necessary they should be as short as possible. -Will Beback 20:06, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Five quotes is the usual number, with the excess moved to Wikiquotes. -Will Beback 20:01, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many blockq quotes 

message: Could someone edit "Machiavellian" to link to Niccolo Machiavelli? "Machiavellian" is a term describing a ruthless schemer, deriving from a common misconception of the controversial and misunderstood principles Machiavelli actually believed in and advocated. The way it is makes it look like Francis was a nasty character rather who would to anything to get ahead rather than a student of Machiavelli. I'd change it myself, but my browser is too small and it would cut the page in half. 05:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Machiavellian"

message: "Nationally syndicated" in where? Canada? Scotland? Australia? The lead needs to locate this man in history and geography, not just politics, to give the political details any context. 87.113.24.173 (talk) 23:49, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead assumes too much 

message: An RfC: Which descriptor, if any, can be added in front of Southern Poverty Law Center when referenced in other articles? has been posted at the Southern Poverty Law Center talk page. Your participation is welcomed. – MrX 17:16, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC 

message: August 4 2018 Vox Day (Darkstream) live stream on YouTube was complaining that a fellow conservative columnist and commentator, Ben Shapiro, was far from an original thinking critic of the status quo narratives and presented Samuel Francis as an improved such intellect, writer, and speaker by stark comparison. However, a YouTube examination of Samuel Francis from 2000 or video recordings of a speech given so shows that he did not adequately balance his abstract political thinking with the practical health and appearance aspects of his life due to Francis' being a good deal overweight and in so doing being prone to its ill effects such as cardio vascular disease, etc. Can any of these two videos be referenced in the article? Oldspammer (talk) 20:40, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vox Day on YouTube 2018 mention of Samuel Francis 

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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 04:15, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Sam Francis (writer) →  – Many of the more recent works use this name. Jfhutson (talk) 00:47, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 23 March 2024 

message: Reliable secondary sources establish that Francis was a white supremacist, and that's what was most notable about his writings. Any labels attempting to soften the image of this dead writer are just whitewashing. Note that "white nationalist" is just a marketing term that white supremacists have employed in recent years to distance themselves from the original description, so it's effectively the same thing. Fred Zepelin (talk) 19:41, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  White supremacist