Talk:Flag of Russia

message: Image:Russian_SFSR_flag_medium.png doesn't exist. 217.132.59.190 17:28, 3 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: May 2004

message: I couldn't verify (nor disprove) contribution of 64.228.152.240. Doesn't look like a vandalism, but... Nikola 11:05, 14 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: why are the colors red, blue, and white? For example maybe blue is for the water because there is a big lake in russia and whatever I really need to know this because my project on russia is due tommorow.
Pan-Slavic colours.71.19.6.20 16:47, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a subsection about this, linking to a popular flag site with several theories being alleged. The real meaning of the colors, even if one existed at some point, is probably either completely lost in history, or requires expert research to uncover. Nevertheless, there doesn't seem to be a problem with the number of theories proposed for the subject, not the least because making a guess as to the origin of three colors doesn't require any special education, or anything at all for that matter save for imagination. IgorSF 07:34, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When I did my research on the Russian flag back in 2001, I was pointed to a lot of theories. Two of the theories I have found came from a similar source, the Russian Consulate in San Francisco (website has a 404 error now.) Officially, now, there is no symbolism tied to the flag according to the Constitution. Even the members of the Russian Center of Vexillology and Hearldry state that there is no official symbolism tied to the colors. I do not have a personal meaning that I stick with, but if this article is expanded, I would suggest to include the majority existing ones, which we list on FOTW. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 10:31, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact, I also remember the same consular link, which now shows a 404 from an SF-based Russian TV company for some reason. Although the opinion of a Russian counsel is certainly not "official", it's nevertheless an interesting trivia info. Having interest in both flags and Russia of my own, I may indeed expand this article in the way you suggested. If that happens, using some of the flags stored on FOTW may prove useful, but according to my cursory check, they prohibit commercial use of images, thereby not allowing GFDL licencing. If you know otherwise, or perhaps a different way of using these flags, I'd appreciate knowing about it. Although I suppose it's not entirely too difficult to recreate most of the world's flags in a basic image editor. IgorSF 03:00, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I do know SVG so I can pretty much do any of the flags you wish to use for this article. The Russian flag, in SVG, was done by me based on the Kremlin website and Russian Constitution. I did the Victory Banner and some other Russian flags, so I can do the others. Let me know what is needed. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 03:48, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I need help with my project 

message: The article states that the tricolor was discarded by the Bolshevik's after the 1917 revolution.   This is probably wrong and needs clarification.  My understanding is that the Petrograd Soviet changed the flag to the red one (without additional symbols) after the February 1917 revolution and not the Bolsheviks in the October revolution.
Marky 14:47, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Petrograd Soviet was a representative body of Petrograd city workers, and altough it had great political influence it was a local institution. Russian Provisional Government continued to use tricolor as national flag.95.27.63.245 (talk) 06:40, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change to red flag 

message: The external links don't work as the website moved to http://www.rsnet.ru/
I couldn't find the appropriate pages there, maybe someone who understands the russian language better?
Are the exact colours specified? On Russian sleeping-cars painted in the national colours they are RAL 9016, RAL 5003 and RAL 3001 (though most of the roof is in RAL 7042 as white would look dirty too soon). But this may only be the interpretation of RZD or DWA Görlitz.
--84.115.129.76 (talk) 01:54, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links / Exact colours? 

message: The Russian Empire didn't have a flag before 1858. The flag illustrated represents "colours" chosen for "celebrations and notable events" by several Russian monarchs, but these were not exclusively so, or used only as flags. The colours were also used in officer sashes and in cockades. However, the cockade was changed sometimes to black and white, notably by Alexander I. This caused confusion with edits in the flag used in the Battle of Borodino article which displayed the eagle because the eagle was the Imperial symbol (double eagle). 
This Imperial symbol was displayed on the standards of every regiment, and the personal flags of all the generals, and indeed the Tsar. The double eagle on the tricolour flag was therefore the most appropriate symbol to use in the article in absence of another image. 
For the record, the Russian Imperial Army followed a European convention of flags where the regiments were issued with a regimental and a "King's" (in this case Tsar's) standard, the later being "national". In Russia as elsewhere this was white, representing Peace (the ideal of an ideal monarch), emblazoned with the Imperial symbol, the double eagle.--mrg3105 (comms) If you're not taking any flak, you're not over the target. 03:29, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See #Replaced? below. Викидим (talk) 03:32, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pre-1858 flag 

message: Given that modern Russia is considered to be the successor state to the USSR, therefore sharing a continuous existence with it, shouldn't the Flag of the Soviet Union be here as well, even if was the flag for more than just Russia? --superioridad (discusión) 09:06, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The layout of the article mentions the USSR flag, but it is all messed up. The USSR flag is mentioned in the variant section, which is quite odd. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 09:11, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, belongs in Soviet flag article.--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 09:58, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  USSR flag 

message: I don't see any sources for the 1668 flag from the Russian frigate Oryol.  We know the colors from the historical record, but what's the basis for the cross-like arrangement? --Amble (talk) 07:16, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 1668 flag?

message: Some of that might be true, but I doubt "and continuity of Russian democratic tradition from Russian Revolution of February 1917", since Russia never had a democratic tradition.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 150.214.9.248 (talk) 10:20, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: In 1917 the Provisional Government attempeted to convert Russia into a democratic state, which was interrupted by the Bolsheviks rule. Re-adoption of the tricolor flag in 1991 symoblized continuation of the democratization policy which was started in February 1917. Hellerick (talk) 14:13, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Doubt the post above

message: See :commons:File talk:Flag of Russia.svg#Found_official_colors. Colors used Russian government in state purchases (zakupki.gov.ru) are Pantone 286 C (#0039a6) and Pantone 485 C (#d52b1e). --Sasha Krotov (talk) 21:09, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official colors 

message: the current shade of colours used in the article is incorrect, there is no real evidence for darkning the colours
can someone please restore the original shade of colours as in http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/archive/f/f3/20120812153730%21Flag_of_Russia.svg 90.129.78.238 (talk) 20:55, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: this is the talk page for discussing improvements to the page :Flag of Russia. The image is not hosted on Wikipedia, but at commons: - the relevant discussion page is therefore ; please also see the section immediately before this one. --Redrose64 (talk) 22:24, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  restoring original version. 

message: I wonder who came up with (obviously someone from the lower officials) that the middle strip should be dark blue? It's not the US flag. Historical black-and-white photographs show that the middle band is lighter the bottom - this can only happen if  it is AZURE, not blue-purple as shown on "current" flag.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bearg (talk • contribs) 10:24, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see the thread directly above. Also, observe the WP:NOR policy. Personal interpretations of the colours in a black-and-white photo is neither a reliable source, nor is it verifiable. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 22:20, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colour of middle strip on current flag is fake 

message: I've seen some ww1 Wikipedia articles use the private 1914 flag with the bird on the top left while some others use the formal flag without it , which one should be there  Consistency hobgoblin (talk) 05:57, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: WIthout. "Private flag" was, at best, "co-national", additional flag and it did not repeal/replace plain WBR flag - and it is evident from Russian document about the flag, which explicitly contrasted "flag-symbol" (flag with the Imperial standard) with the Russian national flag (plain WBR). So, the plain white-blue-red flag remained main flag of Russia until the October Revolution. Bests, --Seryo93 (talk) 07:52, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation 

message: I remember older versions of this article having the flags of the russian empire, so why can't the be re added back into this article?
I know they are in a different article, but it would be FAR better if they were in this article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by LockyHimself (talk • contribs) 12:25, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Readdition of the old flags? 

message: Hi
Did you know why Putin's United Russia and pro-Russians in Ukraine used in Donbas and Crimea the previous flag of Russia? --Panam2014 (talk) 12:50, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russian Flag of 1991/93 

message: https://meduza.io/en/feature/2022/03/16/a-new-symbol-of-russia-s-anti-war-movement
According to Western symbology expert Michel Pastoureau, when it comes to flags, there are two types of colors. Group one includes gold, yellow, silver, and white, while group two includes colors like red, blue, black, and green. On a well-designed flag, no two colors from the same group should touch; they should be separated by a color from the other group. (In Russia's flag, the blue and red stripes touch.) --Espoo (talk) 13:07, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Who freaking cares? Just look at Gallery of sovereign state flags. Guten morgen deutschland some french fry eater thinks your flag is wrong! Loew Galitz (talk) 19:14, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:   Russian flag violates the principles of vexillology ? 

message: During the dissolution of the Soviet Union, after the 1991 August Coup, the Russian SFSR adopted a new flag design that looked almost identical to the pre-revolutionary tricolour that had been abolished in 1917. The ratio of the new flag was 1:2, and the flag colours consisted of white on the top, azure in the middle, and scarlet on the bottom. The flag design remained the same until 1993, when the original Russian tricolour was fully restored as the current flag after the 1993 Russian constitutional crisis.
*no citation
*original Russian tricolour vs pre-revolutionary tricolour?
*that looked almost identical is an opinion
*does not belong in the introduction. Should be in the section 1991–present: Russian Federation
This is what I am changing it to but without a citation to back these statements presented as facts I will have to take the hatchet to this even more. I am moving this statement to a more relevant section where it belongs.
During the dissolution of the Soviet Union, after the 1991 August Coup, the Russian SFSR adopted a new flag design similar to the pre-revolutionary tricolour that had been abolished in 1917. The ratio of the new flag was 1:2, and the flag colours consisted of white on the top, blue in the middle, and red on the bottom. The flag design remained the same until 1993, when the original Russian tricolour was fully restored as the current flag after the 1993 Russian constitutional crisis. The Impartial Truth (talk) 01:32, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation needed and opinion statements.  

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion 

message: Essay 103.106.136.22 (talk) 10:55, 9 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russian  Flag 

message: There vandalism on the infobox ManU9827 (talk) 13:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the most bizarre bug I've ever seen on Wikipedia. There is no indication inside the wikitext of anything that might cause this, and it doesn't show up in preview mode either. Liu1126 (talk) 13:28, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

text: See Special:Diff/1221201657#Strange bug on Flag of Russia article. Liu1126 (talk) 13:50, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 28 April 2024 

message: To the best of my knowledge (based on the Great Russian Encyclopedia article), the flag in 1858 did not replace another one: it was a first proclamation of a national flag. I have introduced  in the text and if there would be no objections, I will replace the text using the GRE as a source. Викидим (talk) 03:34, 27 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replaced?