Talk:Pacific Coast Ranges

message: This article would better be named Pacific Coast Ranges (as it is specifically about those particular coastal ranges). There is a (dictionary definition) article at Coastal range, that probably should be moved to Wikitionary. Any comments? - Marshman 19:21, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there non-Pacific-bordering "Coast Ranges"? Stan 19:22, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Not in North America, but there is a page Coastal range that was more a definition and gave the west coast as an example, so the concept is certainly not limited to the NA west coast. I'm sure there are other places in the world where "coast range" has a local meaning (in Japan, the "coast range" is on the western side of Honshu).  Indeed, having grown up in California myself, my use of the term "Coast Range" is decidedly more local than this article encompasses. I'd have never meant the Olympic Peninsula in Washington or places in Alaska or Mexico by the term: the "Coast Range" clearly went from a bit north of LA to south of the Columbia River, at the very most!  So the term that is uniting about all these ranges described in the article is that they are part of the North America Pacific Coastal Ranges—shortened to Pacific Coast Ranges. This eliminates some confusion I found in what various permutations of "coast(al) range(s) should redirect to - Marshman 21:23, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Name of article?

message: What are the  Calipoiea Mountains?  I tried googling them, and google wants to spell it Calliopeia Mountains.  A search on < oregon coast range Calliopeia > had no web hits. I was raised in Oregon, and have never heard of these mountains.
:I think we mean Calapooya Mountains See also: Kalapuya Katr67 22:01, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Calipoiea Mountains"?

message: And — the Tehachapi Mountains are considered a coastal range?
dino 00:35, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I would question that too. Although they "attach" to the coastal range, they divide the SJ Valley and the desert.  Maybe whomever added them can explain inclusion of that particular transverse range? - Marshman 03:07, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Tehachapi Mountains?

message: I've lived in Oregon for almost 35 years, most of that in Lane County, and as far as I know, the range of mountains you cross on the way to the coast has always been called the "Coast Range". I'm completely unaware that there is a more specific name for it. All of the Oregon articles that mention the "Coast Range" redirect to "Pacific Coast Ranges", which doesn't seem specific enough. I like the idea of starting an "Oregon Coast Ranges" article, but what a mess to disambig all those links. I'd be interested to hear what any geography experts have to say on the subject. What is the darn range really called, and does it merit its own article? Katr67 17:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Problem with "Coast Range" is it's a synonym for the Coast Mountains in BC-Alaska; officially they're the Coast Mountains but habitually people, including official types, will say Coast Range.  The qualifier on Oregon Coast Range may be necessary just for that reason.  Similarly there's issues with the way Americans used "Cascades" and the way Canadians do.Skookum1 17:21, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have long thought of the coastal highlands of Oregon and Washington as called the "Coast Range", which, from a geologic perspective, includes the Olympic Mountains and the insular mountains of British Columbia (Vancouver Island, Queen Charlottes); while the "Coast Mountains" refers specifically to the big mountains along the mainland coast of British Columbia, which appear on maps to be a continuation of the Cascades north of the Fraser River although they are not geologically the same.  I'm sure people call the Coast Mountains the Coast Range and vice versa all the time, and really the words "mountains" and "range" mean the same thing.  Still, I wish there was an article on what I've described as the Coast Range.  There doesn't seem to be one.  It would be nice to wikilink to a page on just that range instead of every mountain range near the Pacific coast from Mexico to Alaska.  The page could be called "Coast Range (Oregon)", since the term is usually applied only to the Oregon portion.  If I find the energy and time, I'll make it.  It can describe the problems and common confusion over the names of the coastal highland and mountains in the Pacific Northwest.  Anyway, I was kind of surprised to discover it didn't already exist, but then again, there doesn't seem to be a "Geography of Washington" page either!  Working on that one. Pfly 03:11, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for offering to do something about this. There are a few pages linking to Oregon Coast Range, including this article, so I think that would be an OK title for the article unless naming conventions dictate the ugly parenthetical... If you look at Marys Peak, you will also see why it would be handy to have an Oregon-specific article, as it says it is the highest point in the *Oregon* Coast Range. Katr67 05:46, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oregon Coast Ranges 

message: Why is the Peninsular Range included here?  It is not part of the Coast Range, and has more in common with the Sierra Nevada than it does the California Coast Range.
--Pegminer 22:19, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure anyone is keeping a close eye on this list, and it may have been added incorrectly. If no one responds with a good reason for inclusion in a few days, I would say it would be safe to delete it, especially if you could find a source to show it *isn't* part of the Coast Range that you could cite here. Katr67 22:43, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Note: The Peninsular Ranges article says they belong to the Coast Range as well. Katr67 22:48, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Peninsular Range?

message: Is the Cascade Range really considered part of the Pacific Coast ranges? Katr67 06:29, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes; capital-r Pacific Coast Ranges is a grouping which has various names, e.g. Pacific Cordillera, American Cordillera, although both those definitions tend to include the Rockies and other inland ranges.  I realize you may be speaking from the Oregon orientation, where the "Coast Range" is the lower line of mountains between the Williamette and the Pacific, yes?  Thing is "Coast Range" in Canada is synonymous with "Coast Mountains" so we add "Pacific" to it to mean the larger grouping.  The grouping includes the Sierras, the California coastal ranges (whose names I don't know), the Olympics, the Insular Mountains, the Coast Mountains, and the St. Elias and Chugach Mountains....so why shouldn't it also include the Cascade Range?Skookum1 19:41, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Cascade Range]]? 

message: I've currently set the northward limit here at the Chugach, Kenai and Talkeetna; ranges farther west, though also limning the Pacific Coast, sort of, are all in the Alaska Ranges; not sure if they should be included here, i.e. if they're classified as part of the Pacific Cordillera or not, or are something separate.Skookum1 23:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Alaska Ranges]]?

message: Does the Pacific Coast Ranges include the Yukon Ranges? I'm the creator of the article but I'm not sure if the Pacific Coast Ranges is appropiate for the parent; it's not listed in the article. If the Yukon Ranges are part of the Pacific Coast Ranges, it should be included with the list. Bivouac currently lists 10 mountain ranges and 4 sub-ranges associated with the Yukon Ranges (). Black Tusk 23:40: 3 May 2008 (UTC)
:I don't think the Wrangells are part of the PCR system, despite their physical linkage to the Saint Elias Mountains....to me, FRIR, the Yukon Ranges are all the other ranges in the Yukon, but not the Saint Elias; the Yukon Ranges and Pacific Coast Ranges are different systems, i.e. "sister ranges"....I think the confusion may be because of the mixing up of "Pacific Cordillera" which is the name for everything west of the Great Barrens-Mackenzie/Prairies and is better called the Western Cordillera and sometimes the Canadian Cordillera.  The Ruby, Ogilvies etc are all inland ranges; I seem to recall the Wrangells not being in the same "mother system" as the Saint Elias and Chugach, I'll look at the bivouac link...I guess I should sign up for at least a free month with them again so I can look through all the lists and range defintions that *I* built but it's conceivable that site owner has rearranged things to suit himself, as he was doing when I left (and which is why I left...).  What's http://www.peakbagger.com say?Skookum1 (talk) 06:05, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Peakbagger lumps the Alaska Ranges and Yukon Ranges together as the Alaska-Yukon Ranges, and includes the Saint Elias in them; I'll have to write him and ask where his definition comes from; there's a spur of it that drops south into BC east of the Alsek Ranges, not sure what he means by that; that would be the same bit of possibly-Coast Mountains that you added the YT switch to the WPCan template on Coast Mountains for.  As far as Pacific Coast Ranges go, he uses Pacific Ranges here....I wonder if he has the subrange of the Coast Mountains similarly named?  I'll be back...Skookum1 (talk) 06:11, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm he gets around hte name-conflict by using "Northern Pacific Ranges" and "Southern Pacific Ranges" but he doesn't give maps for them as he does on higher tiers...he's also got "Lillooet Range" in the singular and such; I've never considered that site authoritative; I was trying to make bivouac.com that way but....well, I won't get into it right now....I'll use one of my dummy email accounts and cop a free month or whatever the trial period is on bivouac.com but I'd probably like to make a list of all the things I should check there for teh short time I'll have access to it.....Skookum1 (talk) 06:14, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Yukon Ranges?

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message: The second paragraph of the article indicates that Vancouver Island's Insular Mountains are not Pacific Coast Ranges, but the fourth paragraph lists them as one of the ranges. It seems most intuitive to include them, even if they are "geologically distinct". In fact I think we could cut the whole second sentence. Dardanelle (talk) 02:21, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insular Mountains