Talk:Heimdall

message: Removed name "Geirrendour" here and in other articles as I can't find any trace of this form.
I have removed mention of "Norse society" as the ending indicates an intended Danish setting, not a Norse setting. I might have change it to "Scandinavian society", but that suggests a geographic limitation on the extent of the three races founded by Heimdall that probably wasn't thought about one way or the other by those who wrote or listened to such stories.
Removed information that Heimdall was a "light" god and "moon" god as can find no trace of either. He was a "white" god, but that may not be the same as a "light" god. "Moon god" is a strange POV identification for a god who lives at the end of the rainbow. If someone provide a source, then it  is probably worth including, simply as an odd hypothesis. 
There are a lot of poor links to this article.
Some just link back to Heimdall while others link to entries that give no more information than does the Heimdall entry. That is annoying to anyone who clicks on them. Such sub-stubs might belong in a mythological dictionary but I don't think such sub-stubs belong in any encyclopedia.
I'll wait about a week, but unless someone objects, I'm going to start changing these short Norse myth sub-stubs to REDIRECTs and emove the links to themfrom Heimdall and from other articles as I find them.
Jallan 00:37, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geirrendour 

message: http://www.thorshof.org/zheimdall.htm
i think wiki should provide additional info before this can be considered wiki content. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.10.25.60 (talk • contribs) 14:38, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  this is almost a copy of this url. 

message: "Heimdall's nickname Hallinskíði ("The Literal Bent Stick") also appears as a kenning for "ram", perhaps referring to the bent horns on a ram's head."
The name might also refer to the Gjallarhorn which may have been what is known today as the Bukkehorn, an ancient Norwegian instrument made from the curved horn of a ram or goat, useful for communication and signaling as well as frightening away wild animals while herding sheep. If I or someone else can provide a source verifying this association it would make an interesting addition to the article. Cerdic 16:09, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hallinskíði  

message: According to the Japanese wikipedia Heimdall's sword was called Burtgang, however there are no sources for this and searches have turned up very little. Anyone who is alittle more knowledgeable on the subject care to comment? ブルドガング —Preceding unsigned comment added by 諸行無常 (talk • contribs) 07:02, 29 December 2006  (UTC)
:Heimdall's sword was not called Burtgang, so I encourage anyone who edits the Japanese wikipedia to delete this information as fast as possible. –Holt  T•C 18:40, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the user above you was overzealous in saying to undo "as fast as possible" that edit, but are you saying that asians have followed asatru in some kind of unbroken chain, in any degree? I would like to know where asians have followed asatru at all period; sourcing of that would be highly interesting to me as I would likely be want to throw such a convinced statement aside as ludicrous. 4.242.174.238 (talk) 10:30, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just so we're clear, Xact's rant above is complete and total nonsense (trolling?), and Holt was quite right to call for the immediate removal of misinformation. :bloodofox: (talk) 23:02, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Burtgang 

message: The main article states the unknown origin of the affix "dall" in the "Heimdall" name. In some central-norwegian dialects, "dall" or "dallj" usually means a worker or a even a slave or a lazy man of the countryside.
This in addition to also meaning "a good portion of" butter (as in "smaer-dallj") or a decent portion of anything else related to cooking. 
The word is still being used by elders in parts of Norway. 
An older meaning of the word can also be referring to a bowl with a lid on it, as suggested by for instance Bokmålsordboka (a norwegian web dictionary). 
: The meaning of -dallr I thought was of not so much dispute, as the word is still in use in Norway: 'å dolle'... which means to make beautiful or valuable. It is etymologically linked to english 'doll'. In spite of traditional understanding I believe -dall to have some connotation to valley (norwegian 'dal'), as it seems plausible to associate the meaning of dallr (beautiful) with the beauty of the valley. Heimdallr is thus simply meaning the beautifying spirit of origin, of home.. I associate the meaning of Heimdallr to the etruskan (?) Lares, being the deity of home, or locality per se.--Xact (talk) 23:04, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: While all this is interesting, simply have Wikipedia's policies on original research in mind. You are of course more than welcome to find reliable sources that count these etymologies as plausible explanations, and add that information to the article, properly sourced. –Holt (T•C) 23:12, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  -''dall'' 

message: Would someone please move this article to the Old Norse version (Heimdallr) rather than the current arbitrary choice between the two anglicizations (Heimdall, Heimdal)? :bloodofox: (talk) 15:27, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, if no-one objects I'll move it later this week. Haukur (talk) 00:05, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been more than a month and no objections so I moved it. Haukur (talk) 20:28, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  "Heimdallr" is no more "Old Norse" than "Heimdall." The -r suffix is a nominative case declension and has no meaning outside the context of a sentence. guppyfinsoup (talk/contribs) 07:30, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Please move to Old Norse ''Heimdallr''

message: I have recently rewritten this article and created or rewritten a few related to it (Gjallarhorn, Nine Mothers of Heimdallr, Himinbjörg, Heimdalargaldr) from scratch. Here's what the article currently needs:
#A 'Theories and Interpetations' section mentioning the major theories on the god (the Yggdrasill connection, the ram connections)
#More in depth discussion in the etymology section
And likely some careful copyediting. Rígsþula also badly needs some well-referenced love (rewrite, anyone?). Enjoy! :bloodofox: (talk) 22:19, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Rewrite Status 

message: If there's no reliable source asserting that one of Heimdall's titles include "Whitest of the Gods" I suggest removal of this line. There's a lot of recent activity related to citation tags being added/removed. I suspect this title may have been added only because of fan outrage at the casting of a black actor for Marvel Comic's film version of Thor.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.66.17.115 (talk) 05:57, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You have therefore not read the article. Go back and ctrl + f "whitest of the gods". You will then find multiple citations, including discussion on the matter. The lead section of the article is a summary of its contents (Wikipedia:Manual of Style (lead section)). Said Marvel comics film controversy seems to have resulted from some sort of dubious joke on the part of the film makers. :bloodofox: (talk) 06:20, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whitest of the Gods 

message: Henry Adams Bellows translation:
    Himingbjorg is the eight, and Heimdall there
    O'er men hold sway, it is said;
    In his well-built house does the warder of heaven
    The good mead gladly drink.[16] 
Was the usage of "eight" and "sway" as opposed to the correct "eighth" and "sways" in the source or is it an error we have made when copying it here? --Khajidha (talk) 11:30, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: — Good eye. I've checked the translation and corrected it. :bloodofox: (talk) 19:09, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible typos in translation 

message: Would anyone be up for putting the real texts into the article? CecilWard (talk) 15:36, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: To be clear, are you requesting the normalized Old Norse for the stanzas quoted in the article? :bloodofox: (talk) 16:11, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original text 

message: People keep tripping over this so we should try to provide more and clearer information. It's very clear that 'hvítastr' means "whitest" - the color of wheat and linen. But the connotations of describing someone as 'white' are different in the Old Norse context than they usually are in modern English. In English, 'white' is typically a racial designation. In Old Norse literature, white is the color of aristocratic beauty. I'll see about finding references that go into this. Haukur (talk) 21:07, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whitest of the gods 

message: What's the source for the word-final "r" being pronounced as a voiced alveolar retracted sibilant? WP Ludicer (talk) 08:45, 27 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old Norse pronunciation of "Heimdallr"