Talk:Jon Coffelt

message: I asked the editor who wrote this to establish notability since the previous versions came off as vanity.  Looks like he came through.  Dude is legit.  Formatting this will take more time than I have tonight, so if anyone wants to take a whack, go for it.  It be midnight here, mateys.  :) - Lucky 6.9 07:02, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, that seems reasonable.  I tried to be pretty selective in what I cleaned up, and I have nothing against Absolut itself, in fact right now I own two bottles, one nearly gone and one waiting. Sometimes these product-placement guys and spammers can angry up the blood, the balls they have.  Maybe I'm more susceptable to being annoyed because I'm new here and the bloom hasn't worn off.  I'll let the "right-winger" comment go by because on a few subjects you might be right, but wrong on lots of others.  Regards. --CliffC 19:15, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I've removed the following links, which seem to say little or nothing about Coffelt:
* Artnet "Hypnotic Post" curated by Michael Pittari
* TWI-NY This Week In New York, idproject" curated by Juan-Carlos Castro and Nomi Kleinman 
* "Contour: The Definitive Line," curated by Jon Coffelt
* Space One Eleven
* Space One Eleven exhibit
I've removed the following links, which are dead:
* Birmingham AIDS Outreach
* Pentimenti Gallery 
* Minus Space
Hoary (talk) 08:59, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: External links that add nothing

message: In [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Jon_Coffelt&diff=172453813&oldid=172453412 this pair of edits, I removed links to eight non-existent articles on Coffelt. (I wonder if the links were to fictional pages, or to pages that have been deleted.) -- Hoary (talk) 08:59, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, they were to non-existent articles in other-language versions of Wikipedia. And now that I take the trouble to look, I find that they were added by you, Artintegrated, in this edit. Did the articles exist then? -- Hoary (talk) 01:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Links to non-existent other-language articles

message: The article now tells us that:
:Coffelt is included in many prestigious public and private collections including American Express, ASCAP, Birmingham International Airport, Birmingham Museum of Art, Capitol Records, Lord International US Headquarters, Mercedes Corp, Parisian, Progressive Insurance, Saks Fifth Avenue, Time Warner/Southern Living]], among many others.
In this recent edit, one editor slapped "" on it, with the edit comment EVIDENCE that his stuff is in each of these collections, please.
A few hours later, a second editor removed this tag in this edit, with the comment same reasoning, presumably referring back to his or her immediately preceding comment: Artists simply cannot possibly prove every single collector without an articlbut you it is listed in a CV and Bio then you can take their work for it or personally contact the collectors
I find this only hazily comprehensible but it seems to be a complaint about the unreasonableness of expecting artists to prove that their works are in collections, and it's certainly a claim that one should believe what an artist claims about him or herself.
I reject both. I don't expect the artist to prove anything. (Indeed, I expect him to keep clear of his own article, other than to correct mistakes or remove nonsense.) Where's the disinterested evidence? While you can't provide this independent evidence but expect that you'll be able to do so, you leave the tag where it is. When you've given up expecting that evidence will be produced, you remove the claim. -- Hoary (talk) 01:59, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am adding cites as I find them since the article is a shambles now. Artintegrated (talk) 08:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "many prestigious public and private collections"

message: This page has been offered as a source. However, it's clearly a CV and work-wanted page created by Coffelt himself, so it's hardly a source for facts about Coffelt (though it certainly is one for claims made by Coffelt).
Still, it's interesting in at least one way. Here's a small sample:
:I organize and curate the Book Arts Program for SDCA (Seaport District Cultural Council) to be exhibited here in Manhattan at SPACE a SDCA concern as well as travelling these Book Arts Exhibitions across the country to other interested venues.
The prose is a bit tortured, and in a way that seems eerily familiar. -- Hoary (talk) 11:48, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Enlightenment from a linkedin.com page

message: I removed "Category:Book artists" no evidence was presented that he was a book artist. Now the category's back, with as evidence a single photo, sans comment, in a single web page. Is this all? -- Hoary (talk) 06:58, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Almost three years later, and he's still in this category, though we read nothing about any book by him. -- Hoary (talk) 15:32, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Book artist?

message: I've removed a great deal of content that's either unsourced or poorly sourced. Please source future edits to significant coverage ine in publications meeting WP:RS, not other Wikipedia articles, unsubstantiated associations with other artists or non-notable organizations. Flowanda | Talk 05:06, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sourcing -- April 2010 

message: I question edits made by at least two editors -- User:OneMarkus and User:Artintegrated -- to this and other articles about artists and organizations of questionable notability. As edits I have made related to WP:BLP, WP:RS, WP:N and other Wikipedia policy and guidelines have been  reverted, I have started discussions here and on other related talk pages to discuss the future edits and existence of these articles. Flowanda | Talk 05:34, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  April 2010 -- Edits, sourcing and notability