Talk:List of one-word stage names

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As can be seen in the archive, this article has been nominated for deletion and survived under the condition that criteria be tightened. There are many real sources citing the ubiquity of stage names, but until such time as someone finds a source giving the ubiquity of historical names that are not full names and the significance of those, this page would be better served, I think, by becoming "List of famous stage names". this leaves out the few pen-names present, and may change the criteria of the article from something fairly arbitrary to something popular. If there is ever a want for a list of pen names or historical figures with unknown full names, then that article will be created, separate from this one. I said this a few days ago, and now I'm going to do it. Lotusduck 20:31, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh?  I don't see any such condition in the deletion decision, which was "keep".  How did it get to be "stage names" after that?  Some of the comments in the afd were just wrong, like saying Shaq and Elvis were inappropriate.  They are practically archetypes of what the category was about.  If there's any criterion I'd say anything that needed a disamb to distinguish from other people didn't belong on the list.  I don't think this list should be limited to stage people and I'd like to undo the redirect and go back to the old page name.
Oh please don't. Many keep voters for both AFD discussions said "Keep but tighten criteria". The careful collection of stage names and the real names behind them was the only thing that could actually be verified about the article, and the main reason people got confused into keeping it. Wikipedia articles have to be verifiable, we can find plenty of sources stating the notability of Shaq and Elvis, but none at all stating the notability of Madonna and Machiavelli not being called by several names like other people are. If you want to make a funny list including Madonna and Machiavelli, do it on www.uncyclopedia.org. In fact, I'll go ahead and start it for you: http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/People_with_one_name
I'm sure it'll be ridiculous enough to be kept there. Lotusduck 21:45, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Previous discussions 

message: Lets discuss: Sports names? I have left the sports names, the model names, and the photographer names in as stage names. There should probably be a separate section for models, actors, singers and porn stars. Also, for convinience we should all list the people's real given names if they can be known. I'm probably not going to do any of this any time soon, so someone else should. Lotusduck 20:52, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  inclusive/exclusive 

message: This has been discussed before, but it's still a problem.  "Stage names" refers to actors, musicians, performers etc.  The list, under its current title, should not include: sports stars, writers, Egyptian pharaohs, native American leaders, film makers, photographers, or Serbian presidents.   Either the title gets changed, or the contents of the list need to be culled drastically.  JackofOz 00:35, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a nice idea.  My point is this.  We can have whatever lists we want on Wikipedia, and some of them will overlap other lists.  That is not a problem.  All I ask is that the the title of a list ALWAYS accurately reflect its contents, and vice-versa.  If they don't match up, one or other should change.  If this list stays with its current title, I'll help you remove all the non-stage names.  I have no objection to the title being changed as you suggest.  But we would still remove names such as "Slobo", "Geronimo", and "Oprah", as none of these are pseudonyms, professional or otherwise.  Cheers. JackofOz 01:18, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Putting Madonna and Machiavelli on the same list was part of the coolness of the whole thing. 71.141.251.153 17:46, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Title vs. Contents 

message: I have deleted Björk from this page because it is a list of one-word stage names. Björk is not a stage name. In Iceland people are referred to by their first name only, as the last name merely refers to the father. Guðmundsdóttir, her "last name" means Guðmundur's daughter. See Icelandic naming conventions72.166.213.249 07:33, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See also Björk#Name and ancestry. 66.152.166.101 (talk) 15:20, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Björk 

message: Is it POV to describe Jesus' claim to fame as 'Messiah'?  Isn't religious leader, or founder of Christianity, a bit more encyclopaedic? Michael Keats 20:03, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jesus 

message: * Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/List of fictional people known by one name
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of fictional people known by one name
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people known by more than one given name (in combination)
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people known by one name
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/People Known By One Name
* Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of people whose full names are not commonly known
* List of one-word stage names
* Mononymous persons
-- GregManninLB (talk) 17:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some links 

message: Any objections to the deletion of Lennon? 161.58.16.26 (talk) 06:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do. Kingturtle (talk) 06:34, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. 74.208.16.17 (talk) 01:46, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lennon 

message: The first line of the lead currently reads:
I suggest the criteria be tightened by changing "...list of people known widely..." to either "...list of notable people known most widely..." or "...list of notable people best known..." - any opinions as to which would be better? Any alternative suggestions or objections? 74.208.16.17 (talk) 13:23, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I vote for "...list of notable people best known..." seems like the criteria would help clean up the list, somewhat. Procafius (talk) 13:23, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done  - 66.152.166.101 (talk) 14:51, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change to the lead 

message: Does this count? Voxii (talk) 19:39, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind. I guess the criteria is if most people don't know the full name. Everyone knows it's Presley. Voxii (talk) 19:45, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I say Elvis counts. There's loads of people named Elvis, but if you say "Elvis," everyone knows who you're talking about. 68.48.245.53 (talk) 04:52, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: But Elvis' work was still printed and marketed under the name "Elvis Presley."  For example, his film credits all read "Elvis Presley," not simply "Elvis."  For "Elvis" to qualify as his stage name he'd have had to be actively marketing himself without his surname, which I don't believe he was during his lifetime. Rob T Firefly (talk) 15:17, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

text: Including Elvis this would mean demonstrating that a person is best known by their given name alone, which sounds like effort to research, and a bit subjective. Though I agree that Elvis ought to be included, it would be a fuzzy boundary that would cause trouble in less definite cases.  Card Zero  (talk) 23:29, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elvis? 

message: Why don't we add some images to this article? There is perfectly enough space for some thumbs to the right. ~ ς ح д r خ є ~ 08:46, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: "This is a list of notable people best known by a pseudonym  consisting of a single word."
This is obviously incorrect.   While many of the entries in the list are pseudonyms,  most are not.   Many of them are the legal first name ( given name ) of the individual concerned.   That is not a pseudonym.Eregli bob (talk) 02:09, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, I'm going to change the introduction to explicitly allow those cases (but not Elvis, following the reasoning above).  Card Zero  (talk) 23:16, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obvious problem with the opening sentence 

message: should teller, one half of the magic act, penn and teller, be included in this list 
193.133.92.229 (talk) 14:21, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a difficult one, because although many famous figures are customarily known by their surname alone, Teller has changed his name to consist of only his surname. I guess that doesn't make any difference, and he still gets ruled out on the grounds that it would open the list to all sorts of borderline cases - there must be huge numbers of musicians who have at some point appeared on a poster advertising just "DYLAN" or "MINGUS" or "FRAMPTON".  Card Zero  (talk) 23:37, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teller 

message: Would the popular singer Sade Adu not count for inclusion because she is better known just as Sade? It's a bit complicated because Sade is both the stage name of the singer and the name of the band in which she sings. MartinPoulter (talk) 11:19, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: She's on the list now. Makes sense to me.  Card Zero  (talk) 23:38, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested addition 

message: Should a source be found to demonstrate that every person on this list is indeed known (or best known) by their mononym? That sounds difficult, tedious, and absurd, but perhaps proper, per the banner at the top of this page.  Card Zero  (talk) 23:50, 23 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: The name 'Shaam' () would originally refer to the Syrian region,Article "AL-SHĀM" by C.E. Bosworth, Encyclopaedia of Islam, Volume 9 (1997), page 261. so the actor's page was renamed to Shaam (actor). Leo1pard (talk) 08:07, 24 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The name of Shaam 

message: Arguably the most famous, and leave it to Wikipedia to specifically exclude him...71.162.113.226 (talk) 16:49, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Liberace 

message: Yeah, can we include these names into List of stage names and the respective letters' sections? Seems like a waste to have this article. Starbeam2 (talk) 08:03, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorporation to list of stage names