Talk:Isfahan

message: Here is a very interesting documentary (in Eglish) about the Armenian churches/convents in Jolfa, Esfahan. Perhaps someone should sort out the copyright status of this video (whose duration is 30 minutes) and possibly include a link to it in the main page. --BF 01:29, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Churches/Convents in Jolfa, Esfahan 

message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect :Esfahan. Since you had some involvement with the Esfahan redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion (if you have not already done so).  Thryduulf (talk) 23:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Esfahan listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The same is said about Mashhad --88.79.103.58 (talk) 15:03, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Second largest city?

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message: People who live in Isfahan are called ‘Isfshani’, they are famous for meddling. They talk in Persian but have very unique accent  which is very sweet.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.201.227.42 (talk) 16:38, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  People in Isfahan  

message: The article says the metro "is planned to be finished by end of 2010."  Can somebody please update this very stale information? Paulburnett (talk) 18:21, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status of Isfahan / Esfahan Metro 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: hello 
prostitutes belong in economy
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isfahan&diff=979907351&oldid=979881663
Baratiiman (talk) 18:33, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Pahlevun, this is just not relevant enough to mention in an article about the city. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:02, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

text: Even if prostitution can be an aspect of the local economy, this information doesn't tell us anything about that. There is nothing here about the impact of prostitution on the city's economy (or on any other part of its life).  --bonadea contributions talk 14:50, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: That information is in pleasure marriage and prositution in iran which was deleted .Baratiiman (talk) 15:54, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whyd you delete this 

message: Fix dead links says amp links are in this page but i deleted them and still get the error https://iabot.toolforge.org/index.php?page=runbotsingle&pagesearch=Isfahan Baratiiman (talk) 11:06, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what the refresh time on IABot, but I'm guessing it's not updating in real-time, so the edits you made about half an hour ago likely haven't made their way through the system yet. If you want more help, change the  back into a , stop by the Teahouse, or Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 12:51, 25 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  amp project 

message: I removed whatever amp was in here web archive still not working Baratiiman (talk) 13:33, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really sure exactly what you're referring to, but you might need to manually find the web archive if the bot can't do it; if the  URL on the page isn't exactly the same as the Web Archive URL of the page, it won't match. Primefac (talk) 13:56, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: AMP

message: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isfahan&diff=980612082&oldid=980611733 
*https://www.virascience.com/thesis/799808/
*https://www.sid.ir/fa/journal/ViewPaper.aspx?id=471688
*https://fa.wikipedia.org/wiki/%DA%A9%D9%BE%D9%88%D8%B1%D8%AF%D9%86%D8%AF%D8%A7%D9%86_%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%86
Baratiiman (talk) 13:31, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The species does exist, but WP:ONUS, it is not a significant species, and not relevant to the fauna of the city. – Thjarkur (talk) 13:36, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Then where?Baratiiman (talk) 13:39, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have answered that question for you at the Teahouse (see here). As this taxon has not yet been found within the city, you can mentioned it in both Isfahan Province and at Zayanderud river, where its three known world locations can be listed and wikilinked to, and where it is most definitely a very worthy endemic to identify. It should not be listed as part of the city fauna, as none of your four sources suggest that it occurs there! A little more care in checking sources would have avoided this talk page discussion, and you would have answered your own rather odd "then where?" question. Nick Moyes (talk) 21:56, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

text: Read the sources, my friend. Don't just guess! At this time, it belongs elsewhere, and I say this as both a Wikipedian of 10 years experience, and a professional naturalist of 35 years experience. If you can't be bothered to read what you cite, don't cite it! I'm not advocating for not mentioning this taxon, just for you putting it the right article and for you not causing misinformation by your sloppy approach. There's one helluva difference between a taxon being named after something and for it being present within it. In this case it is named after the City and  Province, but if you take the time and trouble to read through the published sources, you'll learn that none of its three known sites are within the city, but are all elsewhere within the river basin within Isfahan Province. How much clearer can I be?  Nick Moyes (talk) 07:59, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  fish specy 

message: These two sources have been removed from a section called "fashion" which did not actually say anything about fashion, and which contained no information supported by any sources. I removed the sectiondiff of my edit, but the sources might be useful: the first one is about production of knitwear and the second one about textile/clothing industry. There was no bibliographical info and no attempt to format the citations in the article, so I'm afraid these are just bare URLs – and note that I have no opinion on whether the sources are reliable. 
* https://www.isna.ir/news/99051410046/%D8%AE%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%A8-%D8%A8%D8%A7%D8%B2%D8%A7%D8%B1-%D8%AA%D8%B1%DB%8C%DA%A9%D9%88-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%A7%D8%AC%D9%86%D8%A7%D8%B3-%D8%AE%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B2%DB%8C-%D9%88%D8%A7%D8%B1%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%AA%DB%8C-%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA
* https://www.hamshahrionline.ir/news/518544/%D9%85%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%B9-%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%84%DB%8C%D8%AF-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D9%82%D8%B7%D8%A8-%D8%B5%D9%86%D8%B9%D8%AA-%D9%86%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AC%DB%8C-%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86-%DA%86%DB%8C%D8%B3%D8%AA
--bonadea contributions talk 14:25, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Clothing town https://www.hamshahrionline.ir/news/518544/%D9%85%D9%88%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%B9-%D8%AA%D9%88%D9%84%DB%8C%D8%AF-%D8%AF%D8%B1-%D9%82%D8%B7%D8%A8-%D8%B5%D9%86%D8%B9%D8%AA-%D9%86%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AC%DB%8C-%D8%A7%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%86-%DA%86%DB%8C%D8%B3%D8%AA#item:~:text=%D9%82%D8%B1%D8%A7%D8%B1%20%D8%A7%D8%B3%D8%AA%20%D8%B2%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86%20%D8%B4%D9%87%D8%B1%DA%A9%20%D9%BE%D9%88%D8%B4%D8%A7%DA%A9%20%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%86%20%D8%B1%D8%A7%20%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D8%AA%20%D8%AA%D8%A7%D9%85%DB%8C%D9%86%20%D9%88%20%D9%87%D8%B2%DB%8C%D9%86%D9%87%20%D8%B2%DB%8C%D8%B1%D8%B3%D8%A7%D8%AE%D8%AA%20%D8%B1%D8%A7%20%D8%AF%D8%B1%20%D8%B2%D9%85%D8%A7%D9%86%20%D9%88%D8%B1%D9%88%D8%AF%20%D8%A8%D9%87%20%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%86%20%D8%AA%D9%82%D8%A8%D9%84%20%DA%A9%D9%86%D8%AF
They are all in both links except for the last sentence which is from a link in the economy section either that or i lost a link
Baratiiman (talk) 14:54, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

text: That's the exact same source I provided above, and although I do not read Farsi, I can get a rough idea of the content by the use of translation software.  Now, I am the first to admit that Google Translate is useless when it comes to exact translations, and maybe the article actually does talk about fashion – if so, please provide the information about that. (Clothing industry is not the same thing as fashion industry.)  As for the claim that 80% of the knitwear is imported, again that is not fashion, it is not specifically relevant to Isfahan, and most importantly, the isna.ir source does not support that claim. The only time "80%" is mentioned in that article is in the (GTranslated) sentence "80% of the fancy products in the market such as zippers, buttons, cuffs, clothespins, etc. are imported" which is not the same thing as "80% of knitwear is imported".  The clothing or textile industry may very well be important enough for a section in the article, but it has to be properly sourced (not just bare URLs – that is important!) and contain encyclopedic information.  --bonadea contributions talk 15:17, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

text: 99% correct is certainly not true, but if the content is mostly OK in the translation, I'm satisfied. (The language is never going to be OK, but we don't need to care about that since Google translated text will never be used in articles). The only relevant point is whether it talks about clothing or fashion, and as you also say that it says clothing... well, then we are in agreement! Yes, bare URLs are a problem. A bare URL to a reliable source is better than no source, but it is very unhelpful to our readers (and to other editors) to only provide bare URLs and somebody is always going to have to fix such problematic references – and leaving that necessary work to other editors is a bit unfair. --bonadea contributions talk 15:57, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I can understand Persian and I checked ISNA. It is an interview with a local trade unionist in Isfahan, who speaks about rise of production costs for tricot workshops due to COVID pandemic. He somewhere says 80% of raw material are imported, and does not seem to speak about Isfahan specifically. This is categorically irrelevant to 'Fashion' and Isfahan. Pahlevun (talk) 16:05, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

text: f you can read and write please solve this great mystery too im going nuts almost https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Economy_of_Iran#Reason a beggar photo is irrevelant to poverty? Baratiiman (talk) 16:13, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I have already responded in the right place. Pahlevun (talk) 16:15, 27 September 2020 (UTC)

text: To fix i think i should find the source for the last sentence and move the whole thing under clothing or textile instead of fashion that should do it?  Baratiiman (talk) 17:06, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: In part, yes, but not exactly.  As already discussed above, "80% imported knitwear" is not a fact about Isfahan. Import is part of the national economy, not the economy of an individual city – and that is also why the previous third sentence, "Iran has the second biggest fashion market after the United States", is not specifically relevant here, especially not when the section is only a sentence or two long. (In a well-developed section about a city's industry, it might be relevant to mention as part of the background that that industry is important in the country as a whole, but I'd suggest building the section first.) Finally, "trying to make a clothing town" is difficult to understand; I will read up on the source and see if I can help developing that into something that flows a little better, but I don't have time to do that today. I'd also suggest moving the section to the sub-section "Economy, technology and tourism" rather than "Culture and demographics". It would really be very helpful if you could take a little time to fix the references that are bare URLs. You can use the Ref Toolbar to do that. --bonadea contributions talk 07:47, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

text: how was garment district incomprehensible by  Baratiiman (talk) 15:19, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: As I mentioned just above, the sentence "As of 2020 Isfahan is trying to make a clothing town" is difficult to understand, even if "make" is changed to "become" (which I assume is what is meant), because there is no context and no explanation and no information about it. In addition there is no explanation of the term "garment district". The information is probably there in the sources but it might take a little while to extract it. --bonadea contributions talk 16:23, 30 September 2020 (UTC)

text: You havent read the source all you know is you have the urge to delete text from this page.This is todays news 
*https://www.imna.ir/news/428993/%D8%B4%D9%87%D8%B1%DA%A9-%D9%BE%D9%88%D8%B4%D8%A7%DA%A9-%D9%81%D9%86%D8%A7%D9%88%D8%B1%DB%8C-%D9%88-%D9%85%D8%AF-%D8%A7%D8%B5%D9%81%D9%87%D8%A7%D9%86-%D8%B1%D8%A7%D9%87-%D8%A7%D9%86%D8%AF%D8%A7%D8%B2%DB%8C-%D9%85%DB%8C-%D8%B4%D9%88%D8%AF
Baratiiman (talk) 15:23, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

text: Like you and everybody else here, I edit Wikipedia in my spare time, of which I currently have almost none. No, I have not had a chance to make myself acquainted with what that source says. What do you mean by "today's news", and what is the relevance of that link you just posted? Please don't expect other people to understand exactly what the point is when you post unexplained links as part of discussions. Thanks. --bonadea contributions talk 16:05, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fashion / clothing / textile industry 

message: do you know what redlinks are for? encourage creating them  also the shahraks are under the city municipality and their pages are way outdated and incorrect Baratiiman (talk) 08:52, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Having spent time in Isfahan, I can say that if this was a local, it was someone deliberately pushing the boundaries and risking arrest. That by itself would be interesting perhaps, but since we have no information on the circumstances of the photo, we shouldn't use it. Readers will assume it is a typical sight, but it isn't. I think it is more likely to be a tourist because wearing a hat instead of a scarf and wearing pants without a "manteau" is something that tourists commonly get away with. Zerotalk 09:25, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Where did you spend time and when did you spend time and how long because that pic is closest to reality than Fashion in Iran both english and farsi versions entire text.Baratiiman (talk) 09:29, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I disagree, but I asked the opinion of a friend who is a woman who lives in Esfahan. Anyway, even if it is genuine, this woman could be almost anywhere in the world and the photo adds exactly nothing to the article. Images should illuminate the subject of the article somehow. Zerotalk 13:24, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: the bridge in the photo is in esfahan bird garden.Baratiiman (talk) 10:12, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  My Esfahani friend confirms that such a sight is possible, but I still think it is unrepresentative and doesn't improve the article. You could add that photo to Paris or Rome or Rio de Janeiro or Auckland and nobody would know the difference. Photos in this article should illustrate Esfahan. Zerotalk 03:27, 7 October 2020 (UTC)

text: Redlinks: that comment is a reference to my removal of two redlinks in a hatnote here. There is an important difference between redlinks in article text and redlinks in see-also sections or hatnotes; it does not help our readers at all to say "here is an article with much more information about this topic" when there is no such article, and it is a very different thing from allowing words in running text to be redlinked. If you want the actual guideline on this, see WP:REDHAT. --bonadea contributions talk 09:32, 28 September 2020 (UTC)

text: Don't create hatnotes with redlinks. It does not take five minutes to translate a long article from another language. The two articles you link above are apparently the Farsi Wikipedia articles about the economy of Isfahan and culture of Isfahan, respectively.  The fact that such articles exist in another language does not make it appropriate to create hatnotes for them in English Wikipedia. --bonadea contributions talk 09:44, 28 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  redlinks and shahrak and Iranian girl in isfahan 

message: reason for this https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isfahan&diff=980977823&oldid=980974513 Baratiiman (talk) 15:48, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry for the reversion. I thought you were some sort of vandal. Zangoose&SeviperMan4055 (talk) 15:52, 29 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reason 

message: "section doesnt make sense" And why is that?that is a well studied potential for tourism program https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isfahan&diff=980991139&oldid=980978579 
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isfahan&diff=981008442&oldid=981008372  if you are an admin why dont you use that access to make Isfahan economy to shorten this page
Baratiiman (talk) 11:35, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what my being an admin has to do with whatever it is you think I should do (create a page? shorten a page? Parsing your sentences is challenging).  I removed it because it was a single sentence declaring that the town did not have a night program. The article in general has way too many single sentence sections that should be refactored into a prose section. OhNoitsJamie Talk 13:17, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: is that what was written because I read "City ranks first in ranking for night economy potential" Baratiiman (talk) 13:49, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Night tourism 

message: The article had too many small sections, which I've started to reorganize into prose per WP:PROSE.  For reference Karaj and Mashhad are articles about cities in Iran of a similar size, and are more appropriately organized. I've also removed the main gallery, which is an indiscriminate collection of images per WP:GALLERY, and moved some of the photos into smaller organized galleries in history subsections. OhNoitsJamie Talk 13:55, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The packed gallery with 20 images costs 10kb and most of the pics are found nowhere unless you search keywords.Baratiiman (talk) 15:27, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: @Baratiiman: It has less to do with download size and more to do with visual clutter. —C.Fred (talk) 15:34, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please read WP:GALLERY.  Wikipedia isn't an indiscriminate collection of images; notice that there is already a link to Wikimedia Commons in the External links section, which will redirect the user to the Commons collection.  More images can be added there if necessary.OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:52, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Consolidation of sections, gallery reorg

message: ::::why did you delete real estate prices? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isfahan&diff=981132953&oldid=981132273 Baratiiman (talk) 10:30, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Please stop making new sections for every question. Frankly, you've made a mess of this page. While your edits were clearly made in good-faith, you've basically thrown in a large collection of single sentence factoids all over the page and made an excessive amount of subsections. Please take the time to look at articles for other major cities (such as Karaj, Mashhad, etc) and you'll see what I mean.  A section on the economy should have well-written cohesive paragraphs, not a bunch of bullet points each with their own heading. OhNoitsJamie Talk 15:37, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  that doesnt answer why you deleted the text but it only explains why removed the subheading, this page was a mess it shouldnt get 6k monthly but 600k Baratiiman (talk) 15:56, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, I have answered it; it's a random factoid. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information. Page views reflect interest in a topic, not quality of the page. Take a look at some of the city pages that have Good article status; Amman, Sirkazhi, Fustat; notice in Amman how sections are broken up, with sourced, coherent paragraphs in each section.  You won't find any articles with GA status that are just jumbled lists. OhNoitsJamie Talk 16:05, 1 October 2020 (UTC)

text: I copied cost of living from moscow and i liked amenities better than reacreation this is a article about wikipedia weakness https://www.neowin.net/news/new-wiki-project---abstract-wikipedia---will-boost-content-across-languages/ Baratiiman (talk) 17:11, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Are you sure you read that article? I did, and it didn't say anything about "wikipedia articles don't have enough about recreation so make a thousand one sentence subsections." What that article is about is making information in English Wikipedia more accessible in other languages. To that end, it might make more sense for you to be focusing on the Wikipedia in your native language. As other's have noted, it's not always clear what you're talking about; English Wikipedia requires a reasonable command of written English.  OhNoitsJamie Talk 17:13, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: cost of living

message: where do you think is the place for ref for attacks? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isfahan&diff=981124228&oldid=981123881 Baratiiman (talk) 10:35, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: That link has nothing to do with acid attacks, so if you wanted to ask about that content please be more clear. I see that there is an article Acid attacks on women in Isfahan, which could very well be added to the "See also" section. --bonadea contributions talk 15:58, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  acid 

message: Isfahan rug headnote belongs in economy does it not? https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Isfahan&diff=981133041&oldid=981132953 Baratiiman (talk) 10:42, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It merits a mention (which I've added) but not a hatnote; hatnotes are more appropriate when the topic of entire section also has its own article. OhNoitsJamie Talk 13:00, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  rug hat note 

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