Talk:Suicide Club (film)

message: Sion Sono is a brilliant director, no doubt about that. This film is psychologically disturbing, but its intruiging at the same time. Suicide, exaggerated amounts of blood, and mutilation are what we expect from a movie of this nature and title, but the film also tackles subliminal messages though society, which makes it all too real.
Nonsensical content was:
A cult film that was independent and was an extreme success in festivals. One of the bloodiest most gory films ever made, and with a great supporting cast - The Suicide Club is without a doubt the best horror movie ever.
Is this about Jisatu Circle (which IMDB does not have) or the Suicide Club which would require disambiguation sinc IMDB has several ? WCFrancis 05:57, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: While I have no problem with it being Jisatsu Circle, I have to admit it sounds just odd. I mean, our ever-loved Google turns a mere 55,200 hits for Jisatsu Circle, while a whoop-ass 12,100,000 returns for Suicide Circle and 24,400,000 for Suicide Club. Of course, it's enterily possible that some of the hits for Suicide Club com from The Suicide Club novel by Stevenson, but still. With that in mind it sounds wrong to have Jisatsu Circle "also known as" Suicide Circle since SC brings up twice as much results as JC!
I'd say change it to Suicide Circle/Club and redirect Jisatsu Circle?
Also something was up with the story plot, which I changed.
* Eventually detective Kuroda comes home to his wife and two children. At this point, the girl band "Dessert" is introduced. Later, Kuroda's son, Toru, shows Kuroda a weird website his friend showed him, the same website The Bat was talking about.
The Bat was talking about www.maru.ne.jp. What Toru shows Kuroda is www.haikyo.com.
* The Bat gets caught by the henchmen of a mysterious psychopath who calls himself "Genesis". She and her friend...
She's credited as her sister (just in case somebody goes whiny on this edit).
* The email is sent to the police and he and his henchmen get arrested and The Bat saved.
Actually, no. There is nothing that shows that she was saved, plus, before sending the email Genesis clearly says, "entertain her". So, I'm striking that.
Oh yeah, other than complaining ;) I also added some trivia, some plot details, an added info on Suicide Circle being a part of a trilogy, which the director himself has confirmed. And, novel and manga 'sectionized', but feel free to change it if you have to. --User:Revoish 19:33, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of the article? / Edits 

message: The name of the pop group in the movie, デザート (Dezaato), meaning Dessert, is purposely romanized differently throughout the movie: "Dessart", "Dessret" and "Desert".
Purposely why? Did I miss something? ~ Wapiko 03:09, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it certainly wasn't because of an icredible co-incidence... --TonyM ｷﾀ━( °∀° )━ｯ!! 10:38, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purposely? 

message: What is this movie about? What is the message being convayed? The movie does not explain this at all.
:: I'd say that the movie is about what happens in society as a whole when suicide spreads on it. I think the message is basically the whole kankei/connection theme. I know it doesn't even attempt to explain it for more than five minutes, but it reaches out to me, at least (probably become I come from a place with a massive suicide attempt count). I'd recommend you to read this review that pretty much analyzes the themes that are hard to grasp for R1 users ;). And even then, I don't think it was that "easy to get" for Japanese people. Even the Japanese DVD came with extras that explains the symbols and 'messages' from each scene.
::As an extra note, I'm the movie was intentionally left unexplained. The director always thought of it as the prelude to a trilogy. And from what I've read from friends who have seen the prequel/sequel to this movie, it explains a lot more.--User:Revoish 17:56, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My guess is that the meaning lies in the various dialogues about death and the connections one breaks and leaves behind through dieing. It seems that those who are not in connection with themselves find death through suicide easy while Mitsuko, who proclaims herself "connected to herself", has her skin removed yet does not jump in front of the train. If there is any core meaning it must lie in this dialogue of connection with oneself. Something like: if you are not connected with yourself it is the same as being dead.--Matt 08:08, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Point?

message: A "circle" in Japanese is a club.  Therefore the rendering as "club" is correct, and it should be listed as such, especially since that's the English title. MSJapan 15:07, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Name 

message: This article has had its infobox tag removed by a cleanup using AWB.
Any concerns please leave me a message at my talk page. RWardy 20:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of "needs infobox" tag 

message: Could we classify this movie as a musical as well? I've always thought that the pivotal defining characterisitic of this movie was its use of original songs as part of the action of the film.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.177.232.104 (talk) 12:44, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No. There are numerous similar films with music as part of the plot, but none is classified as musical films. 0zero9nine (talk) 19:28, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The film could be classified as a musical if a significant number of reliable sources deem it as such. At this time, this film will be considered to be in the horror genre only. –Matthew - (talk) 22:00, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Musical?

message: OK, so I was watching this movie on YouTube (shhhhhh...), and when I came to the part where Genesis sexually abuses the women while abusing and killing, in an excessively gory manner, innocent animals tied up in sacks all over the place and singing a song while the abuses happen, I found it just too offensive and tasteless to continue.
So you might say it's mostly personal, but I feel that somewhere within the article, this needs to be explicitly mentioned as some kind of warning. Should I add this in somewhere? 
p.s. the YouTube video has been flagged, so don't bother looking for it.
--A.K.R. (talk) 11:55, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a late reply, but nonetheless, no. We could mention a reliable source that refers to the film as such, but per WP:CENSOR, while some content on Wikipedia may be considered "objectionable or offensive‍—‌even exceedingly so", attempting to make all such content acceptable is "incompatible with the purposes of an encyclopedia". –Matthew - (talk) 21:59, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warnings about Highly Objectionable Content? 

message: Although the back of the PAL (Australia) DVD states that the approximate running time is 99 minutes, I found that the actual running time was 95 minutes - and yes, I was watching the uncut version with the scenes as described in the "alternate versions" section of the article. Should the running time be changed? Can anyone else verify that I am correct? -114.72.228.107 (talk) 03:05, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Running time 

message: Idk if this was obvious but I worked out what the code from the Desert poster was. The numbers correspond to letters on a phone keypad (see image to the right). The number of fingers indicates which letter to use on a certain number. for example "No. 8, two fingers" yields the second letter of the number 8 button, that is: "u".
The numbers on the girls tops were: 
:7, 8, 42, 4 and 33.
The number of fingers the girls were holding up on each hand were:
:(0), 4, (0), 2, 3, 3, 3, (0), 1 and 2.
And so:
:No. 7. four fingers = s
:No. 8. two fingers = u
:No. 4. three fingers = i
:No. 2. three fingers = c
:No. 4. three fingers = i
:No. 3. one finger = d
:No. 3. two fingers = e
I'll add a brief explanation to the main page.
— Msmarmalade (talk) 18:06, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mitsuko's code