Talk:Lisa Lane

message: How can Lane have had an Elo rating of 2002 in the early 1960s when those ratings were only introduced in the ´70s??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zamora1934 (talk • contribs)Zamora1934 (talk) 19:17, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Right.  The USCF started using the ELO in June 1961.  The article says that was her USCF rating at the end of 1961, so that is consistent.  Before that the USCF used the Harkness system, but Elo designed his system so that it would match the old system at the crossover.  Bubba73 (Who's attacking me now?), 19:41, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elo 

message: The SI image used in the article meets the requirements for Fair Use, the same as the other SI images being used under the Fair Use guidelines in Wikipedia:  :Category:Fair_use_Sports_Illustrated_magazine_covers. IQ125 (talk) 18:31, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: SI Image of Lisa Lane

message: , thx for editsum msg. Did find this add'l Fischer quote re Lane from 1961 Sports Illustrated article, don't know if it's worth consideration or not for inclusion re balancing the "fish" quote: "I think Lisa can go to Yugoslavia and win the candidates' tournament," said Bobby Fischer, after analyzing Lisa's games, "and then go on to Moscow and win the women's championship of the world." Ok, --IHTS (talk) 13:20, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks @Ihardlythinkso for the message and the research. I don't have a strong opinion on the inclusion of the 1961 quote you found. My main motivation was just that the "fish" quote and article text of "not impressed with any woman's ability" seemed inconsistent with the interview I saw, so I'm basically satisfied with the current state which doesn't have any Fischer quote, and just mentions the friendship (though it would be better if that had some citation) but I wouldn't necessarily be opposed if you think it's worth incorporating all these quotes somehow. -SpuriousQ (talk) 14:44, 10 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add'l Fischer quote  

message: in the line "and took her first U.S. Women's Chess Championship in 1959 at the age of 21", how can she be 21 in 1959 and born in 1933?
One of them is wrong. 128.243.2.19 (talk) 13:02, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arithmetic mistake? 

message: It seems that her date of birth is incorrect.
1938 not 1933
https://m.imdb.com/name/nm9082440/bio/
Also, contemporaneous report in Sports Illustrated puts her age at 22 when she won US women's championship
https://vault.si.com/vault/1961/08/07/queen-of-knights-and-pawns 128.243.2.19 (talk) 13:16, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for catching and correcting this mistake.  My guess is that an editor copied it from chessgames.com and chessgames.com either had a typographic mistake or copied it from a third source that also had the incorrect date.  Quale (talk) 04:23, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been said that she was pretending to be younger than she really was during her competitive years...the voter rolls for the election district she and I both lived in,which I used for canvassing politically,have shown her birthdate as 04/25/1933 for years.(She and Neil signed for me many times over the years,Neil most recently on March 10th just 11 days before he died of a heart attack before finishing plans for her memorial service).71.105.190.227 (talk) 18:52, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  The only :WP:RS I have with her birthdate is Chess Personalia which has 1938.  Normally it is a reliable source, but no source is infallible.  I may have unjustly smeared chessgames.com here as your explanation of the discrepancy seems plausible. Quale (talk) 03:06, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The New York Times obituary states: "April 25, 1933, in Philadelphia." They have been wrong about other details (see Kent/Carmel discussion below), but unless WP depreciates the NYT as a source, it's another RS for the 1933 date. -- Cl3phact0 (talk) 08:37, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arithmetic mistake solution?