Talk:Sunnyvale, California

message: What about Alviso? 69.228.240.57 22:48, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bordered by

message: this article is clearly beyond a stub, but needs more breadth in transportation, land use, ecology etc to become B class. Anlace 05:14, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a transportation section. Could possibly still use some expansion, but covers the basics.Plymouths 20:54, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest that the time values of distance of travel to the airports be removed. Time is highly variable. Distance is not, so I think it should be the only measurement given.--Krimsley 05:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: Does anyone know anything about Ward Crump built home in Sunnyvale, CA? I don't know if he was a builder or an architect or a developer. Any info would be welcome. Thank you.
13:30, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Random query

message: At least using present-day boundaries it seems to clearly be in Mountain View. The article repeats claims from the official city of Sunnyvale website that "In 1930, Congress decided to place the West Coast dirigible base in Sunnyvale." The city of Sunnyvale is probably generally a reputable source, but in cases like this is NOT entirely unbiased. On the other hand, I can think of some scenarios where that statement might have been correct at the time, such as: 1) The originally planned site wasn't used and it ended up in MV, 2) the MV/Sunnyvale border could have been redrawn, the base could have moved a bit (seems the least likely of these, tho'). I've spent some (probably too much) time looking and I haven't found anything that helps clear up the discrepancy. Anybody else have any ideas how to get to the bottom of this? 71.231.107.188 04:01, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My Rand McNally Bay Area Metro Thomas Guide map shows Moffet being split between Sunnyvale and Mountain View (well, ok, it's about 95% in Mountain View but a little piece of it is in Sunnyvale). Plymouths 05:02, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Anyone know why Sunnyvale claims [[Moffett Federal Airfield]]?

message: i concur as well
Should "the blue cube" be changed to "The Blue Cube?" --Krimsley 05:23, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: * Yes it should. We're not talking about a blue cube in general. Rather, we're talking about a specific blue cube, which was/is commonly referred to as The Blue Cube. breadmanpaul (talk) 14:28, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Grammar correction?

message: The commentary on gang activity should provide referenced statistics if it is to make claims about the crime rate trends. --Krimsley 05:27, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur.--Coolcaesar 20:10, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I too, concur --TeamX 05:34, 18 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I concur with your careful, intelligent critique of User:Southsanjose's very poor-quality edits.  If User:Southsanjose refuses to cooperate with the dispute resolution process and starts an edit war, then we may need to find an admin to impose a block.  --Coolcaesar 06:53, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I look forwards to your assistance with the block. TeamX 16:07, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Good call.  I'd undone two later edits that were OR and irrelevant.  I probably should have undone that one as well, but didn't have any facts to the contrary. -- TJRC 06:28, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment on Crime Section

message: Sunnyvale does NOT border San Jose to the east.  This fact can be confirmed (or disproved) with any map showing city boundaries.  I removed San Jose to the east. TeamX 06:33, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: City Borders

message: Two statements need to be clarified and perhaps moved.
The statement about South Indian business is probably incorrect. The intention is probably 'businesses owned by South Indian immigrants' or 'businesses that cater to Southern Indians'. Also, to balance this statement, what is the number of % of these types of business compared to others? In any case, it probably does not belong in the Geography section.
The point about the 'nicest' place to live in the city probably does not belong in the Demographic section.
Both above should probably be in a new section - consistent with other California cities - about "Neighborhoods" (whatever section title is appropriate).
TeamX 02:36, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Neighborhood Discussions

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:SunnyvaleCitySeal.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Sunnyvale, California seal circa 1965.png

message: All three of these sections need expansions.  Refer to other California cities for examples of facts and imags. Thanks.
TeamX 17:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Expand Geography, Climate, Neighborhoods

message: I removed the following text as I found it to be unverifiable:  "* Nina Ruch, nee Keener, (photographer and writer) attended Ponderosa Elementary School in the 1970's.  Suffering from Osteogenesis Imperfecta, also known as "Brittle Bone Disease" or "Glass bones" (as portrayed on episodes of Chicago Hope, ER and in the movie Unbreakable) she had over 150 fractures by her 20's.  In exchange for medical care she contributed valuable information to doctors and researchers, in California and Berlin, Germany (where few doctors had ever seen such a patient)."  NuclearWinner (talk) 01:49, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed Nina Ruch

message: One of Capcom's headquarters is located here. Can I add in the Trivia section about that? Moogle 12 (talk) 12:42, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Capcom HQ

message: fremont high opened in 1923 with it's first graduating class of 8 seniors in 1924.  The Murphy house was torn down sometime after 1965.
Not according to the Sunnyvale Heritage Society or Historical Museum, it wasn't - http://www.heritageparkmuseum.org/murphy.html.  They quote 1961, which was the source of my information (sorry for not inserting a citation) - Jokeboy (talk)
The current Fremont High School text is chronologically impossible:
Fremont High School first opened in 1923. It served as a military base before the school opened and through WWII; planes flying to/from Moffett field, which opened in 1933, commonly stopped here for fuel top-offs. A 1948 yearbook shows a military aircraft parked at one of the buildings as students watch nearby.
If the school opened in 1923, how did it become a military base before "the school opened"?  If it was a military base, what was the base name?  The 1948 year book is AFTER WWII.
TeamX (talk) 20:08, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Corrections

message: This has the makings of controversy, and caution is called for.  This is a contentious topic in Sunnyvale, and it's pretty easy for that item to lead to an edit war with people inserting their own take on what happened and who's to blame.  We need to be careful to stick to the facts and avoid loaded terminology.  I just did some minor edits to the change that was recently made, in order to remove some phrases I thought were loaded and a little POV (like "fiasco"). Jokeboy (talk) 00:08, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Downtown Project

message: I just removed yet another insert of a Sunnyvale company which was obviously done by someone associated with the company (as the same person seems to have created a page for that company that reads like a PR).  The company list is *not* supposed to be a canonical one, but the guidelines for what should and shouldn't be included aren't well-defined.  In all of these cases I googled the company in question, I went to its web site and tried to get information about workforce, market cap, number of customers, or something that would give me a sense of corporate significance.  But this is all fuzzy logic, and I'd prefer some sort of objective criteria for inclusion.  In the case of Mu Dynamics, I saw that it just received $24 million in VC money and had some 100 deployments, compared that against Ariba having a market cap of over $1 billion, and said "that's nowhere near significant".  Not the most logical method.  Jokeboy (talk) 23:30, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Companies

message: I'm a little surprised to not see any mention of the apricot, cherry, and plum orchards that used to cover most of Sunnyvale. breadmanpaul (talk) 09:24, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: *Small fruit orchards? Large portions of Sunnyvale were originally fruit orchards. Many of these orchards were still in existence well into the 60s. Not just any fruit or fruit in general; specifically, these were cherries, apricots, and prunes [not all plums are dried into prunes]. Not apples, or peaches, or something else. Yes. I believe it is a significant element of the history of Sunnyvale.  breadmanpaul (talk) 00:05, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The most likely reason the information isn't there is that no one had both an interest in it and the information to add.  You should feel free to jump in and add what information you have and can source. See . TJRC (talk) 22:53, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: Southsanjose went and unilaterally deleted the gang crime details, and I'm not sure it's the right thing to do.  It's also rather inconsistent, as two years ago, the same user got involved in a debate (not with me) that started when he added that same material - and he ended up on the losing end of that debate.  So I need some outside perspective.
Sunnyvale definitely doesn't have the gang problem that larger cities have, so his edit may be warranted.  However, the primary causes of Sunnyvale's very low violent crime rate are gang activity and domestic abuse (with Public Safety referring to most of Sunnyvale's gang members as "wannabes").  So the question is whether or not it's appropriate to list gang information in a city with a very low crime rate, but where the predominant cause of the crime that's there is gangs?
If it's appropriate to whack the gang stuff, then I would propose whacking the entire crime section.  What remains refers to an old private party survey that seems to have been discontinued, that is, at least, four years old now, and that the FBI has publicly referred to by saying that they have no idea how the survey's authors came to the conclusions that they did.  If it's not appropriate to whack the gang stuff, then Southsanjose's edits should be reverted.  Jokeboy (talk) 21:22, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Gang Crime

message: I'm interested in researching Washington Park in Sunnyvale to include as either a section in the Sunnyvale article or (if we unearth enough interesting content) a separate article.
I thought I'd collect some of the sources of information I've found so far:
* http://www.militarymuseum.org/SunnyvaleOrdnanceDepot.html
* http://www.corpsfuds.org/reports/OTHER/J09CA7055finalASR.pdf
Malpern (talk) 04:30, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Washington Park

message: Question for folks - if a regular editor of this page should suddenly become an elected official of
the city in question, would you view that as a conflict of interest that should preclude the individual
from continuing to make edits?  Jokeboy (talk) 19:39, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Conflict of Interest?

message: Can we come to a consensus on this paragraph?  I didn't add or delete it, but I didn't mind when someone else deleted it, because it doesn't read as factual, and because it's also factually inaccurate.  I believe that the survey in question identified Sunnyvale's *congressional district* (CA-14) as the happiest district in the nation.  Dr. Oz selected Sunnyvale as the happiest city primarily because it's the largest city in that congressional district.  Regardless, the paragraph really does read as propaganda (and I say this being something of a Sunnyvale propagandist myself).  "And it must be true"???
Plus, it's an incomplete paragraph.  I think the whole thing should just be whacked.  We could maybe put a single sentence in the Popular Culture section.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jokeboy (talk • contribs) 22:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Happiest Place in America?

message: I whacked a change made by an anonymous user regarding the City Manager salary, but it deserves an extended explanation, since the change referenced an SF Chronicle article and would seem to be factual.  The text in question said 
The San Francisco Chronicle noted that Sunnyvale has one of the highest paid city managers and that the State Attorney General was doing a probe of excessive city salaries [], but the list of cities being probed is not yet available. 
I have two problems with this.  First, there is an implication in this wording that Sunnyvale is under investigation over this, which has never been claimed by anyone or reported in any media story.  Second, the SF Chronicle's coverage (which was actually an AP report) was factually incorrect.  It reported on a League of California Cities survey of compensation (found here: http://www.cacities.org/resource_files/29179.FinalSurveyResult92010.pdf).  But the numbers listed in that report were *not* the annual salaries of the City Managers - it was their W-2 filings.  And listed in a footnote of that report is that Sunnyvale's CM's numbers are distorted because 1) Sunnyvale's pay schedule resulted in 1 year + 1 pay period on all W-2s, and 2) as a brand new CM, he was reimbursed for moving expenses from Utah, which isn't salary, but which shows up on a W-2.  In reality, the Sunnyvale CM has a lower annual salary than the CMs in San Jose, Santa Clara, or Mountain View.  For all of these reasons, I think the above edit is out of place, not noteworthy, or both, and I whacked it accordingly.  If someone disagrees, let's hear it. Jokeboy (talk) 23:42, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: City Manager Salary

message: What is the population of Sunnyvale according to the 2010 census?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.214.140.14 (talk) 13:59, 4 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Current Population

message: The following coordinate fixes are needed for
—109.127.86.164 (talk) 09:46, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The coordinates point is not so far wrong to require fixing. It lies in a very early tract of homes called the Heritage district, part of central Sunnyvale. At the city level, it is accurate enough. Binksternet (talk) 13:52, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinate error 

message: Sunnyvale's Vice Mayor just changed, so that information is now incorrect.  http://sunnyvale.ca.gov/CityGovernment/CityCouncil/Councilmembers.aspx
But since it just changed to be me, I'm not comfortable making the edit myself. Jokeboy (talk) 20:08, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Article updated. And congratulations on your appointment. Edwardx (talk) 20:21, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Vice Mayor 

message: The information on Onizuka needs to be updated, since Onizuka is no longer a functioning Air Force installation.  The land is being transferred to the VA, the City of Sunnyvale, and Foothill/De Anza College, and some of the land transfers have already happened.  I believe FHDA has received their title.  The Blue Cube is still there, but it is slated for demolition, and the radar dishes are already gone.  I'm not quite sure how to describe this, since the site is in transition.  But it's probably worth updating those comments since there isn't an operating Onizuka Air Force Station now.  Jokeboy (talk) 06:36, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Onizuka 

message: Surely Sunnyvale should have some mention. Hcobb (talk) 01:02, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: How's that?  Toddst1 (talk) 03:12, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category: Cities that build nuclear weapons 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: https://scahome.org/publications/proceedings/Proceedings.15Cartier1.pdf
:The Sunnyvale Red Burial CA-SCL-832
:dated to 5590 years BP (before present)
:Kortoso (talk) 20:17, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What's the contest context for this document?  Toddst1 (talk) 20:21, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  To see who can eat it the fastest? Methinks you mean context. John from Idegon (talk) 23:55, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sunnyvale Red Burial 

message: The recent edit adding information about FCF and CSG includes direct links in the article to those external, non-wiki pages.  Is that appropriate?  I thought we weren't supposed to do that.  JGriffithSV (talk) 20:23, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Direct links for Full Circle Farms and Charles Street Gardens? 

message: Please stop inserting the misspelling of Northrop Grumman Marine Systems.  The cited source has a typo saying it is "Northrup"  instead of "Northrop" and you are edit warring to perpetuate the error.  See some primary sources for the correct spelling: , .   Toddst1 (talk) 20:25, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Toddst1, thanks but it's not a misspelling. Northrop Grumman uses the -up spelling on some of their subsidiaries. Northrup Grumman Marine Systems is one of them. Here are a few examples of usage:    . Please let me know if you have any questions. AlexEng(TALK) 20:32, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: AlexEng, none of those sources are from the company. They're all phonetic misspellings by third parties, just as the city of Sunnyvale employee did. That's why I gave you the primary sources.  There is no question.   Toddst1 (talk) 20:41, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The more I search, the more it looks like you're right. It's strange that it was misspelled like that in official documents at the Department of the Navy, but it does look like a misspelling. I'll go ahead and self-revert. Thanks for sticking to your guns on this. AlexEng(TALK) 20:45, 20 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Northrop Grumman Marine Systems 

message: Sorry but I am confused why this was reverted, Antwon already has a wikipedia article as you can clearly see and it included a citation showing a connection to Sunnyvale. The notes were added to the revert - John from Idegon "No indication of notability WP:WTAF" - which is not applicable to this since he already has an article on WP therefore notability was established. Jooojay (talk) 02:27, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry...I saw the redlink in the edit summary and didn't look further.  My bad.  Feel free to undue and trout me. John from Idegon (talk) 02:45, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: John from Idegon LOL I had to look up "trout me", too funny. Jooojay (talk) 02:54, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable people from Sunnyvale – [[Antwon]]

message: Since a bunch of people were added to this article, without citations, they have been moved here temporarily. Feel free to move them back to the article space once we have a citation! Jooojay (talk) 23:02, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable people that need citations

message: I've never heard the second pronunciation (sun-evil). Is there a source for this? -iopq (talk) 10:45, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: Someone chose to revert my good faith undo of an editor's re-insertion of the old City of Sunnyvale logo, citing a lack of references for my edit (and calling it "unconstructive and disruptive").  Whatever.  In addition to this news article:
    https://www.mercurynews.com/2017/07/21/sunnyvale-has-a-new-website-city-logo-has-gone-green/
here's a photo of current Sunnyvale Mayor Glenn Hendricks in his office with the new flag behind him:
    http://www.dweeb.org/Hendricks_flag.jpg.
Now can someone please re-insert my edits to the city logo and remove the old logos?  JGriffithSV (talk) 21:08, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I support adding the city logo back in. It is, in fact, the correct city logo, and that is in fact the mayor. Full disclosure: I know JGriffithSV in real life. TallNapoleon (talk) 23:38, 9 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  City Logo Edit Dispute 

message: Someone added a section on gang activity in Sunnyvale, which is strange, since gang activity is virtually non-existent in Sunnyvale.  It's been described to me by Public Safety officers as basically middle school wannabes, and it's pretty much statistically insignificant, even by the numbers being quoted.  Including a section on gang activity in Sunnyvale seems equivalent to including a section on the popularity of green beans among the populace - sure, there's some, but it isn't unique to Sunnyvale, and it doesn't stand out enough to distinguish itself and warrant being included.
But the content being included appears to be properly cited and factually correct.  It just doesn't make sense to me to include it, as there's no real relevance towards an encyclopedia discussion of the City of Sunnyvale.  Can someone review that and see if it really warrants inclusion here?
And in particular, this general question was reviewed and legislated literally a decade ago.  Nothing seems to have changed to warrant revisiting this question.  JGriffithSV (talk) 04:45, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gangs? 

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