Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musical Theatre/talkarchive6-30-06

message: I'm a bit peeved by the icon for this project: a Wicked logo. Does Wicked represent Broadway? Sure, it's the current hit musical, but I can guarantee you there'll be a new hit musical five years from now that'll be just as successful as Wicked. There are numerous great musicals that have appeared on Broadway throughout its history, and I don't think its at all fair to label them all with the symbol of the current hit. This is like giving every rock and roll article a Green Day icon--certainly they're a popular band, but however popular they are now, there were big rock bands before them and there will be big rock bands after them.
Really. Wicked isn't even on the list of notable musical theatre productions. I don't see why it should be representing Broadway.
*Actually, according to Wikipedia:Fair use it is copyright infringement to use the Wicked logo. — "The material should only be used in the article namespace. They should never be used on templates (including stub templates and navigation boxes) or on user pages. They should be linked, not inlined, from talk pages when they are the topic of discussion. Because "fair use" material is not copyright infringement on Wikipedia only when used for strictly encyclopedic reasons, their use in other contexts is likely copyright infringement." — WARPEDmirror 19:44, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broadway and Wicked icon 

message: I was browsing the project page and found that many shows requiring the "Broadway Show" denotation have been amended.  Here's shows that have NOT been checked off but are in fact updated:
*Movin' Out
*A Street Car Named Desire
*Beauty and the Best
*Cage aux Folles
*The Producers
*Fiddler on the Roof
Kstrubb 04:31, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Great. Ëvilphoenix Burn! 17:29, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update 

message: I don't think the template in its current form is a good representation of these shows.  First off there is more to the theatre world than Broadway.  I propose that the template should be non-geographic in nature in order to allow UK West End, German, French, Hungarian, Japanese, and other non-Broadway shows the ability to use it per Wikipedia Countering Systemic Bias. In order to help achieve this and also take into account the possibility of show revivals, the template should also be modular. (example) --Kunzite 17:51, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Pressing the move button at the top of the page, which I did.  --Kunzite 03:20, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A Brit living in New York, I was just passing through here, I notice that you have broadened the scope with the name change, but the project information (on the main project page) still focuses on New York.  Scope, Parentage, Goals and Templates all need updating.  In addition, I would also rewrite the lead sentence at the top of the page, there is also no need to mention New York explicitly - "around the world" should include NYC, surely? Cheers, Walkerma 03:57, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template--Widen the scope.  

message: why does it say "musical theatre of film" ? that doesn't make any sense. J. Van Meter 17:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Typo. Sorry. Fixed. --Kunzite 18:25, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  oh. as in "Musical Theater OR Movie Musical". got it. consider using the term "movie musical". might be a bit clearer. J. Van Meter 03:55, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: question about stub wording

message: Doesn't look good for a project to have nothing to do - and trust me, there is work to be done! I'm sure there are hundreds of actors, directors, choreographers, plays, etc. that need to be added. The ones that do exist are often stubs. Crystallina 23:25, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  To Do list - or lack thereof 

message: Hello, I would love to join this project because I love broadway and I would be proud of myself if I help out with this project.
How can I get started? i'm not quite sure because the to-dos aren't that clear and all.
Thank you!　broadway_dude 23:45, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hello!  

message: Hello. I've created  for general musicals. The only info box I can see is specific to Broadway, with the 'Tony' fields non-optional. The page (which looks blank) needs tidying so it shows the template: it got its premiere at Dance of the Vampires. The JPStalk to me 17:28, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for tidying it. The JPStalk to me 00:24, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template 

message: I went ahead and added one task - to create articles on Tony Award winners. Too many redlinks - this is, I fear, systemic bias in action. Doesn't have to be that way though. I've created a few. Crystallina 04:28, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  To Do list created 

message: I'm wondering about nominating this category for deletion.  There is no article about Broadway operas.  Perhaps the best way to handle these cross-over productions is to categorize them both as musicals and operas when appropriate.  -- Samuel Wantman 09:04, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: With this, I completely agree.  There is a HUGE amount of subjectvity regarding terming something an opera, and the term gets flung around by people who want to term a Meat Loaf album an "opera".  —  MusicMaker 05:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Category:Broadway operas]]