Talk:Audi A8

message: My understanding is that the W12 was created by mating two of Audi's 3.0 litre VR6s togethor, not be mating the VR6 which is a different engine offered in 2.8 (former) and 3.2 (current) litre displacements. The 3.0 litre was used in the B6 generation A4 and is not a narrow angle VR series engine. This also makes sense mathmatically as 3.0+3.0 = 6.0 whereas 2.8 + 2.8 = 5.6 and 3.2 + 3.2 = 6.4, and the W12 is a 6.0 litre engine.
:No, the W12 is the result of mating two VR6-like designs together.  It has the same size bore as a 3.2L VR6 but the same stroke as the 2.8L.  It is unrelated to the Audi V6s. TomTheHand 13:14, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: W12 was VR6s?

message: I've been trawling through WP and have found no mention of this car at all - it was a concept shown at Frankfurt (though that's not 100%) and had a chrome finish.
:On a short side note: The ASF was shown at the IAA back then. I was there and still have (not very good) pictures. And the finish was polished aluminium, not chrome. HTH --212.23.103.72 (talk) 05:11, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Audi ASF concept

message: Any pictures of the A8 interior?  It's cabin is one of the best in class.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cantor575 (talk • contribs) 23:34, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: In January 2008, Hyundai has launched TV commercial of their new sedan, Genesis.
It's a movie of head to head collision test of Audi A8 and Genesis.
In commercial narration says "To beat the best German sedan".
And they try to show that Genesis is safer than Audi.
http://www.tagstory.com/video/video_post.aspx?media_id=V000142419
This is that commercial. How do you think about this?  Deepthroat81 (talk) 14:47, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Totally useless, as they don´t show results and specs. 212.23.103.68 (talk) 11:51, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Hyundai Genesis vs Audi A8

message: The article is not too long with S8 data, also the S8 is just one model version of this car and they should be on the same page -->Typ932 T·C 06:20, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article size 

message: So , give your opinion about the merge support or /no support with possible comment.
:Support :The S8 is just one variant of A8, no need for own article, neither is the article too long -->Typ932 T·C 17:23, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Support :For the reasons stated by Typ932.  They are too related to have separate articles. 72Dino (talk) 17:31, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Oppose :BMW M cars have their own separate page too, plus the S8 article doesn't contain much overlap with the A8. Plus no body has actually tried to make the merge work in practice yet.MonkeyKingBar (talk) 17:43, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Comment: if one page is made wrongly we dont need to follow it, if the BMW pages needs to be merged go on and suggest merging them. -->Typ932 T·C 20:08, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Strongly disagree, the precedent set by having separate BMW M articles works well. Imagine how bloated the regular A8 article would be if we merged S8 into it.MonkeyKingBar (talk) 20:25, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: How the BMW M articles are handled is irrelevant per Wikipedia:Other stuff exists.  The size of the article is a good topic of discussion, though.  I believe the current S8 article has a lot of trivial information that can be removed, and thus the merger of the articles would not have an undue impact on the A8 article.  72Dino (talk) 20:31, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment: One different engine wont make it "bloated", if we would make own articles of every brands power models, we would need to break hundreds of articles. In this case the only worry is the article size, but I have calculated its still within decent size -->Typ932 T·C 07:09, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Support : These two models are directly related. Moreover, we should help reduce the amount of BS (Boastful Superlatives) in Wikipedia articles, no matter how much marketing BS the manufacturers, the automobile journalists (who thus earn free cars and trips from the automakers), as well as the particular auto brand enthusiasts (who have an insatiable appetite for this BS) keep promoting trying to make "special" model variants seem unique and notable because they cost more and go faster. CZmarlin (talk) 07:33, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Support: The S8 is an A8 with a bigger engine (and nice it is too - I test drove the V10 in the last version and was very impressed, but still went for the S4 instead). Hardly worthy of its own article, and really would benefit from being part of the A8 article. Also I note that not all BMW M cars have their own page. <B>Warren</B> (talk) 09:14, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Support : just a trim level. OSX (talk • contributions) 13:59, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Support — As per the above reasons as well as every other relevant reason stated in numerous other merge discussions. --Pineapple Fez 05:59, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Support: It's a trim level, not a separate model. --NaBUru38 (talk) 19:36, 29 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Support: As per above (and after the fact)  Mr.choppers | ✎  15:05, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  S8 merge to Audi A8 

message: There could be a mention of  Top Gears economy drive from London to Edinburgh and back on one tank in a V8 diesel A8. yesilikecars (talk) 12:39, 01 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Top Gear Audi A8 economy run

message: The section of the D2 (first generation) has a table mentioning acceleration figures and top speed. It is unclear what version (quattro or FWD, Automatic or Manual) this is related to. If those figures are included, it might be a good idea to mention the version too. And the diesels are missing too.
Maaher (talk) 09:54, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: They´re all automatic. A S8 D2 (340HP) with manual gearbox accelerates from 0-100 Km/h in 5,2s, slightly faster than a Porsche 993 Carrera 2. 46.115.155.119 (talk) 04:35, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Performance Figures

message: I have a 1997 A8 Quattro. It has the warm weather package with the solar sunroof. I have the window sticker showing the option. Here are some links.
2006 A8 Pricing
also
http://www.audiworld.com/model/a8/06/A8%20SE.pdf
though the latter contains lies. for example, the ABS for the 2007 A8Q (late 2006 brochure) is not Bosch 5.3, but 5.0. (I have the control module sitting here in front of me, 4D0 907 379 L)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drinkypoo (talk • contribs) 04:35, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Options available in 1997 

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message: Howcome the difference in wheelbase of SWB and LWB is 6 mm less than difference in total length (I mean the D4 version). Is there some additional 6 mm added outside the wheelbase? --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii (talk) 15:45, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Length. 

message: Currently, the A8 D3 section of the article displays the real displacement values (e.g. 3.9L for the 4.0TDI, 4.1 for 4.2TDI, 3.1 for 3.2FSI) but I have seen many other Wikipedia articles about cars that feature the same engines but show the badged/"branded" displacement (i.e. 4.0, 4.2 litres) instead. Even the A8 D4 section of this article puts the 4.1L-displacing 4.2 TDI as a 4.2L engine. So, should it be made consistent with those articles, or not?
I'm of the opinion that we should just show the badged displacements in the infobox and in the body text instead – much easier to grasp/understand for someone learning about the car, less potential for confusion (i.e. "what's a 3.9 TDI!? I've never seen or heard such a thing!"), and then maybe we add explanatory footnotes to the article about actual displacement, as well as maybe an extra column to the "engine variants" table about branded engine size. — AP 499D25 (talk) 05:04, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. Ford's vaunted "5.0" is still referred to as a 4.9-litre V8, because that is correct. We can definitely add "4.0 TDI" text to minimize confusion since that is what it was marketed as, but math is math.  Mr.choppers | ✎  14:21, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  A8 D3 engine displacements: how should we display them?