Talk:EuroCup Basketball

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Uleb Cup 2007 logo.gif

message: EuroChallenge, EuroCup and EuroLeague are now organised by FIBA and ULEB so the ULEB in the name should be dropped. -- (talk) 18:40, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Drop the ULEB

message: Despite the website is called www.eurocupbasketball.com, the name of the competition is just "Eurocup"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.61.10.110 (talk) 09:42, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drop "Basketball" 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Comment Eurocup currently points to the disambiguation page EuroCup -- 65.94.171.126 (talk) 05:22, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Nickst then you need to replace above with multimove template. But in this case I wouldn't bother as I don't see this RM gathering support, sorry. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:16, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Andiii, Sabbatino, Asturkian, Rodw, User:Deepfriedokra, Mrschimpf, Dim.vas.nikol, Nightfall87, Erincoktem, BlackDraGoN, Tregias003. I ping you here because you're among the main contributors in articles regarding EuroCup and EuroLeague. There's an ongoing edit war started by BasketFanatik1 and his sockpupets (RoadWarrior79, 1568b2125, IP). He's asserting, without any consensus and citing only ONE source, that the EuroCup is widely regarded as the third-tier European professional basketball club competition. He's also editing EuroCup's article in Italian, French and Spanish Wikipedia. I've already reported him for sockpuppetry and requested for a protection of the page, but I'd like to know your opinions about these edits and, with your help, I'd try to find a good solution. Thanks. -- Nick.mon (talk) 09:25, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I am not a contributor to this page. You both may have exceeded WP:3rr, so it is good to seek consensus and 3rd opinions. Y'all both need to stop reverting and discuss. As to the sock accusation, that's pretty serious. You might want to file a WP:SPI report. , I invite you to stop edit warring and seek WP:consensus here. --Deep fried okra User talk:Deepfriedokra 09:31, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, Deepfriedokra, I was wrong in continuing this edit war and I apologize for that. But, as you can see above, I asked him to start a discussion, but he never answered me... -- Nick.mon (talk) 09:35, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

text: Nick.mon First of all, thanks for asking my opinion. Even though I am not an active contributor to that page, I know for sure that EuroCup Basketball is not third tier. Not even the Basketball Champions League is officially a third tier competition. Both are to be officially classified as second tier competitions. Fact is, though, that, whenever economically possible, often teams prefer to play the EuroCup basketball instead of the BCL making the EuroCup, de facto, the second tier European competition and the BCL the third tier (see, e.g. Virtus Bologna last season which was repeatedly threatened by FIBA because they chose EC over BCL). There are ongoing discussions and it's obvious that this is a mere political conflict between Euroleague and FIBA. If necessary I can provide some more sources, but for now I would definitely say that EuroCup is not a third tier competition, neither officially nor de facto. Andiii (talk) 10:19, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Andiii for your precious contribution. I totally agree with you, in fact I even proposed this version: Behind the EuroLeague, the EuroCup is widely regarded as the second-tier European professional basketball club competition,Routledge Handbook of Sports MarketingFocus On: 100 Most Popular Shooting GuardsSpain’s holiday island Mallorca throws hat into the ring to host EuroLeague top-tier professional basketball club competition finalCoronavirus: Top international basketball league officially cancels 2019-20 season however, in recent years its second-tier position has been threatened by the growth of the Basketball Champions League. I thought that this was a good compromise. -- Nick.mon (talk) 10:33, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Nick.mon I think that's a correct statement (I'd just use "challenged" instead of "threatened"). Thanks! -- Andiii (talk) 11:44, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Basketball/Archive 14#Edits that say the European-wide basketball leagues have no ranking or tiers, and cannot be considered at any different levels back in 2018. My stance did not change since the last discussion – it is WP:OR to classify international European leagues into tiers. There are no sources for that and there is no basketball pyramid for international European club tournaments. I am not going to discuss this further, because discussions about tiers took place in two or three different places in 2018. – Sabbatino (talk) 15:23, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, so I think we should remove this sentence from the beginning of the article. -- Nick.mon (talk) 15:34, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second-tier European competition