Talk:Abd Allah ibn Ubayy

message: The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- John Carter 21:34, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
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message: article has anti-islamic pov. --Striver 00:22, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
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message: Article edited as part of work on the NPOV backlog. Loaded words and some text has been removed. Since there has been no discussion suggesting further disagreement, the tag is removed. If you disagree with this, please re-tag the article with  and post to Talk. -- Steve Hart 00:26, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
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message: How is Glubb, a military man, a reliable source on Islam?Bless sins 23:46, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Everything attributed solely to Glubb.Bless sins 20:44, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You have no reason to doubt any of the statements in the article. Glubb became a respected historian of the Arab world after his military campaigns there. Arrow740 20:45, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Back your statements up. How does a soldier become a "respected historian" with no educational background on Muhammad, whatsoever?Bless sins 20:49, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Check the publishers and bibliography, he's a prolific historian published by eminent presses. Arrow740 20:56, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, this is not an adequate response. Either show he's a reliable source, or find better sources. The burden is on you to find a reliable source.Bless sins 20:58, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but WP:RS is a guideline, not a rule, and if you want to prove the book by him isn't a RS the burden is on you. Arrow740 21:09, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read WP:Verifiability#Burden_of_evidence again. "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material." That will be you when I delete the material. Also, don't playdown the importance of WP:RS.Bless sins 23:43, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

text: *Glubb is not a qualified historian, and has no academic training in any aspect of Islamic history (or history at all, it seems). ITAQALLAH 23:22, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
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message: Please refrain from adding honorifics to Wikipedia articles - specifically, do not refer to the "Prophet Muhammad." Instead, link and refer to "Muhammad." KazakhPol 00:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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message: So the story of Aisha is political???? --Aminz 00:06, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for riding a dead horse. However, what are the sources this allegation is based on? The other non-political opposition (promising help to the Banu Nadir) is as far as I can see not based in sources and actually contradicting Ibn Ishaq (who talks about unbelievers). Str1977 (smile back) 08:00, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: we're not here to work as historians, or to draw conlusions from primary sources (by the way, don't you mean "beating" a dead horse?). Ibn Ishaq isn't exactly accurate every time, anyway. ITAQALLAH 17:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political opposition only? 

message: I've removed the NPOV template, please use  for sections or  for sentences, then detail issues here. This will help address them in a timely manner. - RoyBoy 19:20, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine by me. Str1977 (talk) 14:40, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
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message: I have removed a description of William Muir as ‘an anti Islam orientalist’. This was possibly vandalism (the edit adding it has no summary and was made anonymously), and I see there has already been discussion of Muir's suitability as a source, so I've left the Muir quotes in without the pejorative description. Maybe there's something in this, but either the point about Muir's orientalist attitude should be expanded (with sources discussing why his interpretation may not be reliable) or if it's felt that his position is so problematic that his thoughts on Ibn Ubayy don't add anything useful to this article, they should be removed completely. Andy Smith (talk) 21:37, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
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