Talk:List of national instruments (music)

message: What do the question marks and numbers mean in the instrument name column?-Wafulz (talk) 16:44, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It represents its Hornbostel-Sachs number. Yvesnimmo (talk) 17:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

text: The question marks are the ones I haven't done yet. The numbers will be more useful in the future, when they will link to a List of musical instruments by Hornbostel-Sachs number. Tuf-Kat (talk) 17:55, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, a good one. Tuf-Kat (talk) 17:55, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarifying this article 

message: As per the title, this article should be organized by nation/culture. Badagnani (talk) 20:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree. Per the title, this is a list of instruments, and should be organized by instrument. Specifically, instruments are included only if they are "national", but this is still a list of instruments, not a list of nations. In any case, isn't it possible to make lists like this sortable by any field? Tuf-Kat (talk) 16:52, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay, I changed my mind. I agree with you now. Tuf-Kat (talk) 20:00, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organization 

message: The erhu (or possibly pipa or guzheng) are more likely candidates for "national instrument" of China than the yangqin. Badagnani (talk) 20:05, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The guzheng's already on the list. I've searched for a reference for the pipa, but didn't find anything citable. I'll look for the erhu when I get a chance (and I'll look for the others you mention below - if you have anything you might be able to cite, please do jump in, as I'm reaching the end of what I can find with the resources I have available). Tuf-Kat (talk) 16:52, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Got the pipa, no sources that I can find for the erhu. Tuf-Kat (talk) 17:18, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: China

message: The krar would probably be considered the national instrument of Ethiopia. Badagnani (talk) 20:05, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ethiopia

message: *Kanklės. Badagnani (talk) 20:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lithuania

message: *Saz. Badagnani (talk) 20:09, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Turkey

message: *Oud. Badagnani (talk) 20:10, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arabic countries 

message: *Ranat. Badagnani (talk) 20:11, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Thailand

message: *Rondalla, Kulintang. Badagnani (talk) 20:13, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philippines 

message: "Yang quin" is wrong, not even a legitimate alternate spelling, and should be removed entirely. Badagnani (talk) 20:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you sure? It gets a couple google hits, but not many, so I'll remove it (nobody could attempt to look for "yang quin" and fail to see "yangqin" just below it anyway). Tuf-Kat (talk) 16:52, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been considering removing the "other names" column completely, and just making that a column for pictures. The entries for alternate names pointing to the main entry could remain, but I don't think it's actually necessary here - the only reason that column is there is because I made it that way for List of Caribbean membranophones, which, since it's intended to be exhaustive, needs the "other names" column. Any thoughts? Tuf-Kat (talk) 17:05, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yang quin 

message: Re: this edit, the hurdy-gurdy is used in Swedish folk music, alongside the nyckelharpa. They are not the same instrument. Badagnani (talk) 09:38, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I've reverted myself. Tuf-Kat (talk) 16:52, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hurdy-gurdy

message: *I thought I've read in the past that the shamisen is the national instrument of Japan, but everything I'm finding says koto only.
**Proponents of the shamisen consider it to be more authentically Japanese than the koto, as the shamisen is more widely used for folk music and folk singing, whereas the koto is considered more refined and "classical." Badagnani (talk) 18:23, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Couple others

message: The khaen doesn't use gold in its reeds; they're said to (at least in the old days) have been made from old coins so they are reputed to contain silver mixed with other metals (which I think would be copper, bronze, or brass). But gold is probably not one of the metals. Badagnani (talk) 03:46, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a couple new ones to the list, and removed the reference to gold and silver as being unnecessary. Tuf-Kat (talk) 06:01, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Khaen 

message: Kopuz is not right for Turkey. Maybe it's used by Turkic peoples of Central Asia. Badagnani (talk) 08:05, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkey 

message: Kannel. Badagnani (talk) 08:13, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Estonia 

message: I don't believe the pku was ever the "national instrument" of Armenia. I think the website uses the terminology "national instrument" just to mean that it's a traditional instrument of that nation. Badagnani (talk) 08:45, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Armenia

message: The pin pia is not correct for Thailand. It's considered the emblematic instrument for the Lanna (northern Thai) only. Badagnani (talk) 08:47, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thailand 

message: The correct name for the Mandinka xylophone is balo, and it's not their primary instrument; that would most likely be the kora. Badagnani (talk) 03:50, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mandinka 

message: In the endeavor to find Web links that mention "national instrument," I believe at least some of these Internet sources to be written in poor English by people whose first language is not English, using the term "national instrument" not to mean "THE national instrument" but simply a "traditional instrument used by the nation's people." A single source shouldn't be relied on in most cases. Badagnani (talk) 03:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's a potential problem, and I cast a deliberately wide net, but I don't think requiring more than one source is a good solution. If we're not sure a single source is using the term in the sense meant here, it's reasonable to look for confirmation, but if it's clear that the one source uses it this way, I don't think it's necessary to find a second source. As I said, I cast a deliberately wide net, and I included direct quotes in most cases, so if you think some are questionable, let's discuss them. I'll point out the Russian spoons (cited here), Serbian frula (cited here), Brazilian berimbau (cited here, requires JSTOR, but the quote is "Although this metamorphosis insured the emerging berimbau a higher social status as a Brazilian national instrument."), the English bell (cited here) and the Argentinian guitar (cited here) as ones that I wavered over a bit, but eventually decided to include. Tuf-Kat (talk) 05:55, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible misunderstanding 

message: Ranat is Thai national instrument absolutely.  for evidence.  plz add it.  Manzzzz(talk) 17:25, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Thailand]] 

message: Ranat is Thai national instrument absolutely.  for evidence.  plz add it.  Manzzzz(talk) 17:25, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Does the link refer to the instrument as Thailand's national instrument? I don't believe it does. Badagnani (talk) 17:38, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Thailand]] 

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message: People please, edit the musical instruments of Croatia. It may be separate, not together. I think on Tamburica and Lijerica. Thank 
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message: I have edited description of Tar. It was here, but there was misstake of Wiki code. Also, please look on It and edit It to be better. I have read, that there are various variations of Tar.
Nextly, why Chang was removed from this list?
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thread_title:  Tar and musical instruments of Iran