Talk:Hadhramaut

message: An anonymous editor has revised "Hadranis" for "Hadramis" throughout. Which is the better designation for the people of the Hadhramaut? --Wetman 19:43, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: "Hadranis" or "Hadramis"

message: The inclusion of Wetman's idle speculation on the origin of the name "Hadramawt" has troubled me for years. As I now hold a PhD for archaeological work conducted in the Wadi Hadramawt, and as I am therefore quite concerned with the quality of this Wikipedia entry, I feel obligated to correct this mistake. In the coming days I intend to contact professor Zarins, and write a new section on the etymology of the name, highlighting the two major theories: "The Place of Death/Death has Come" vs. "The Green Place/The Urban Settlement." (In my opinion, these are two slightly different takes on the same argument, rather than four distinct arguments, though I am willing to entertain all reasonable contrary explanations--my expertise, after all is in archaeology, not religious history or comparative linguistics.) Lugal (talk) 02:54, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Correction to Wetman's "Denials"

message: Does the town/city of Lahij come in Hadhramaut? -Mlaheji 10:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, its actually in the Lahij province. Jidan 11:53, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

text: ODDLY ENOUGH, there is a place in the Israelo-Palestian state (specifically-speaking, in the Gaza strip) known from Biblical times called: La'heesh (לכיש). I wonder what the connection might be & if it means anything (it appears too "perfect" of "an identical twin-sounding" name to be just "conicidental"...! AK63 (talk) 09:16, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Lahij

message: From the article:
:The original inhabitants of Hadhramaut are Hadhramis with the surnames that starts with "Ba" or "Bin." These are the among the Qahtan Original Arabs. The Sayyids are migrants from the Iraq about 400 years ago.
Wait, I thought every Arab and his cousin had a surname that started with "bin" (Arabic for "son-of", no?) Can it be that anyone with a lastname starting with Bin is a Qahtan Original Arab? The Arabic name article states:
:The nasab is a patronymic or series of patronymics. It indicates the person's heritage by the word ibn (sometimes bin) which means "son". Thus Ibn Khaldun means "son of Khaldun" (Khaldun is the father's ism, or proper name). Several nasab can follow in a chain, to trace a person's ancestry backwards in time.
Can anyone provide some clarity on this? - Eric 15:37, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The original inhabitants of Hadhramaut are Hadhramis with the surnames that starts with "Ba" or "Bin." These are the among the Qahtan Original Arabs. The Sayyids are migrants from the Iraq about 400 years ago. 
The reasons are that "bin / ba" are not restricted to Qahtani tribes in Hadhramawt. Some other tribes have them, e.g. "bin Hashem", "bin 'Aqil", "ba 'Aqil" , "ba 'Aboud" etc. The "Sayyids" came from Madina through Iraq and settled in Hadhramawt 1200 years ago (not 400 years).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.154.153.159 (talk) 17:22, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Surnames that starts with "Ba" or "Bin" 

message: I don't understand what does the "independent" sultanate of Quaiti and Kathiri has to do with hadramout? is the article about them or about the pre islamic kingdom of hadramout or what exactly?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by يوسف حسين (talk • contribs) 14:57, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In answer to the question in the header, clearly Hadhramaut Governorate exists as an article about the governorate.  We also need an article explaining the earlier Hadhramauts, which is a more inclusive subject, so this is it. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 15:01, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  okay that would be the "kingdom of Hadramout" which was an ancient kingdom from 300 B.C to 275 AD.. again what the sultanates or claimed " descendants of Mohammed" have to do with this? --يوسف حسين (talk) 15:07, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see anything about sultanates or Mohammed in the reference or map you removed.  I don't get what you are doing, but will you please restore the map showing ancient Hadhramaut and the reference citing the fact that Hadhramaut is an ancient region? Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 15:15, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

text: well don't you think the map you provided contradict the description? The article was clearly separatists talking about an imaginary independent sultanate in the introduction. again, is this article about the ancient kingdom or hadramout in general?--يوسف حسين (talk) 15:22, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You are continuing to edit war to remove maps and references that pertain to the scope of the article, Hadhramaut.  I don't want to get bogged into 3RR with you, Kendite, but since there should be no confusion about the scope when Hadhramaut Governorate exists, would you please restore the pertinent information yourself? Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 15:05, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

text: no i won't because first of all you do not know anything about the subject , i'm asking you again what is this article about exactly? Is it about the modern history of hadramout or the ancient kingdom? because the arabic link refers to the ancient kingdom. therefore your "independent" Sultanates have nothing to do with the introduction or the definition of hadramout. I don't know what "decendant of Mohammed" has to do with this ancient kingdom and what exactly is your source that ghassanid migrated from hadramout?--يوسف حسين (talk) 15:16, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: OK I see now that the previous lede statement you removed did mention these sultanates and stated that Hadhramaut was also the name of their formerly independent kingdom.  You're right, I don't know enough about the subject to know if this is correct.  I will assume good faith if you say it is not, because I don't know who added that claim.  But would you at least restore the ancient map? Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 15:22, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

text: Sure--يوسف حسين (talk) 15:25, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this article about the governanate or the ancient kingdom? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Sumharam inaccurate location
Sumharam is a coastal town, but the map previously used on Hadramawt article shows it (inland)
Compare:
The Old Map previously used in the Hadramawt article:
The new map I drew for the Hadramawt article, with accurate details:
An unregistered user, removed the map I drew from scratch (worked hours on) & I hope he can come here & explain why?
The actual location of Sumhuram is on the coast (17°2′20.4″N 54°26′4″E).  Not inland as the older map
The second issue the map is used specifically for Hadramaut & Hadramite, so it will naturally focus on the subject which might be an issue? Tiwahi (talk) 19:00, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Hadramawt Map fixed

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message: See this. Leo1pard (talk) 18:10, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mountains 

message: Since the Semitic languages of Arabic, Hebrew (as well as Aramaic) are SO CLOSELY related to each other & often compared to gleen at one word of (when in doubt about its meanibg oe etymology), for the other. I thought I may suggest a VERY PLAUSIBLE LINGUISTIC connection which, if further discussed/analyzed by people who may perhaps (& hopefully!) be experts in the field-or, in a manner similar to FB-Specialty group style, it may yield some results as per the value or validity' of my assumptions' (or, stated connections).
In Hebrew, there are 2 words which sound very similar (& are closely-related to if not derived from same source) of the word:   حاضر . They are: He'der=חדר=room (from the verb to penetrate; get in) as well as: Ha'tser=חצר=court/yard. As per teh word  موت, like in Arabic, Hebrew's word: Ma'vet=מוות (or, in the possessive: MOT...=...מות) means: Death. Can it then be that, for some traditional; historical &/or topographical/archaeological reason, the name of the place meant to be or dervied from the combination of words: The Court(yard) of Death...?
AK63 (talk) 09:09, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: حاضر means arrived Abo Yemen✉ 10:52, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Hadhramaut