Talk:Wakeboarding

message: Subscribe to wakeboarding edits on YouTube  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nellyfitz (talk • contribs) 03:58, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: This page should probably be merged with the "wakeboard" article Joezasada 06:20, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger

message: this article seems unprofessional. it needs to be wikified, really bad. i'll do what I can with what I know, but if anyone reads this article and knows a lot about what they're talking about, please help out. also, it seems like somebody just copied it from another site. i'm gonna put up a wikify temp, a citation check temp, and a update temp until it gets fixed.
-- 16:34, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs Revision/Rewrite/Something.

message: The content of wakeboards has been merged into this article and I have wikified the text - added links, added a free use image, removed the 'instructional' tone and content (see WP:NOT#INFO) Madmedea 19:36, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merged and wikified

message: As Wikipedia is not the place for tutorials and most people interested in learning about  wakeboarding are interested in learning to wakeboard, this article needs a link (or links) to a site providing instructional wakeboarding articles.  I added one to Wake-boarding.org, others may wish to link to Wakeworld, Wakeboarder, etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.215.45.197 (talk • contribs) 14:54, May 10, 2007
:The site in question is inappropriate at least the following reasons: 1) objectionable amounts of advertising, 2) unverifiable original research by unknown source.  The site looks like a well-built collection of information designed to generate ad revenue from wakeboarding traffic.  A good start in modifying the site, with which I assume you are involved, would be to credit the content to real person with a real address, ideally demonstrating credentials and accountability.  Remove the large block of text advertising from the top of the content area.  Please see also Wikipedia:Conflict of interest, if you have yet to read it.  Looks like a nice site, just not appropriate here, thanks!  ∴ here…♠ 15:23, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After taking a second look at the sites you recommend, I'll go ahead and add WakeWorld back.  It has the instructional material you would like to see as well as appearing to be a primary community hub.  Hope that satisfies your request!  Thanks for the comment -- please stick around and help maintain or improve this article beyond the external links.  ∴ here…♠ 15:39, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I may be missing something (or they may have cleaned up their act) but I don't see anything wrong with the original site -- it looks like a good source to me. 166.249.183.196 (talk) 16:17, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: In the section "Development of the sport" someone recently added the following:
"Wakeboarding was invented in 1991 by Californian Alexis Valerio, coincidentally the same girl that built the grain shipping port (largest in California) in Stockton, California."
Can anyone confirm or refute the status of this assertion? I was unable to find documentation, and it sounds bogus to me. Wtroopwept 17:25, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Alexis Valerio

message: I suggest that this page be split into several.  It currently encompasses too many broad topics.  Eg, the detailed information about wakeboards (rocker, width, length, bottom design, fin placement) should be on its own article.  Maybe an article about wakeboard boats.
And something needs to be done about the trick list; it doesn't seem like it belongs here.
--Yeldarby 14:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split Article 

message: That's not a stunt, that's someone falling over. 91.104.84.109 (talk) 04:41, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wakeboarding stunts picture. 

message: I think this page needs to reflect that wakeboarding is moving away from the IWWF, yes some of the competitions are run by this organisation but wakeboarding has its own culture and organisations. history needs to still refer to the IWWF but as wakeboarding is now an action sport it can be treated as different to water skiing
I have changed the front image as this displayed wakeboarding far closer to skiing than the action sport it now is
I have edited the Wakeboarding maneuvers list and grabs
can we change the name of this maneuvers sounds like gymnastics and something as a wakeboarder I feel should be moved away to and updates to "wakeboarding tricks"
can anyone verify the tricks:
Dev-glass - Butter slide one side of the wake and from that side jump all the way to the other side of the wake landing on a Butter slide
Basket flip - Double Beer flip
and grabs
1 2 (one two not twelve): Your front hand grabs the heel edge behind your back foot.
A B: Your rear hand grabs the heel side of the board front for the front bindings.
[Bathurst]  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Riley Bathurst (talk • contribs) 07:13, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving away from the IWWF 

message: This article defines "wakeboarding" as "a surface water sport which involves riding a wakeboard over the surface of a body of water." It includes a link to Wiktionary, where "wakeboard" is defined as "The board one stands on for wakeboarding." Do you see the problem here? Devil Master (talk) 21:00, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Circular definition

message: Hey, I'm not very familiar with the rules and regulations on Wikipedia, but I just want to say that there are a lot of people within the wakeboarding community that laugh at how inaccurate this article is, and many of them now have a negative view of Wikipedia because an article like this can be produced. I don't agree with that last sentiment at all, but I felt like coming on here and seeing what I could do to help. I personally know Tony Finn, Jimmy Redmond, and many professional wakeboarders, especially most the first ones.
Furthermore, Bruce Mckee and his company are the ONLY ones saying making these claims that he is the true inventor of wakeboarding, and I researched extensively and could find no credible articles that talk about his role in wakeboarding history. I personally asked Tony if any of these claims were true and he said they were laughably wrong.
If there's anything I can do to help, let me know.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.71.58.21 (talk) 06:21, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australian Origins? 

message: I just watched a documentary about Eva Braun, the spouse of Adolf Hitler, and sure enough it also featured some five seconds of color film material showing Eva Braun on a wakeboard, although a primitive one, which was towed by a motorboat. It definitely was no waterskis, but a wakeboard. Now I would not credit Eva Braun with the invention of the wakeboard, but this film material proves that in the 1930s, the sport was already known in Germany. The history section is definitely wrong placing the origins of the sport in the 1980s ! -- Alexey Topol (talk) 15:04, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: This article makes no mention of the founding organization that promoted wakeboarding into the sport it is today - The World Wakeboard Association (WWA).  The WWA held the first contests both amateur and pro level. This association also created the pro tour with World Sports Marketing, worked to bring wakeboarding into the X-Games, created the first US Wakeboard Nationals, Wakeboard World Championships, and the Cable World Championships.  The World Wakeboard Association continues to promote wakeboard, wakeskate, and wakesurf events throughout the world for all levels of competition.
Regarding the history of the sport, there is no mention of the creation of the twin tip which changed the direction of the sport from its inception forward. Additionally, the article lacks any discussion of the present nature of the sport and its equipment.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.176.115.73 (talk) 00:47, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article needs some SERIOUS editing and credible sources 

message: There is photographic proof that wakeboards were being used in New Guinea, apparently as recreation by US Army personnel, in mid-1944. The photograph is here: http://www.unholy3-618th-engineers.org/v3/albums/New-Guinea/WWII_NG_waterski_1.sized.jpg.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 166.216.158.151 (talk) 00:08, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: That New Guinea shot is interesting; it looks like the tow rope is attached the "board" (or raft?) rather than being held by the boarder. Would require some balance. Klbrain (talk) 21:26, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  More on History 

message: Per Earwig's Copyvio Detector, the lead of this article seems to be word-for-word identical to the description of Wakeboarding on the ANOC World Beach Games site. This either means that Wikipedia copied their site (which means we need to replace the lead and somehow suppress all edits mentioning the text per WP:COPYVIO), or their site copied Wikipedia--which I believe is definitely the more likely case (per small adjustments to the lead as recent as July of 2019, such as this, which are also reflected in the AWBG site).
I'm relatively new to Wikipedia, admittedly, but I also am fairly certain Wikipedia's text is released "under the CC BY-SA 3.0 License," which, although permitting the copying and sharing of Wikipedia's text, also requires that the copier "attribute the work in the manner specified by the author or licensor (but not in any way that suggests that they endorse you or your use of the work.)" (a condition repeated by WP:C), which I'm fairly certain AWBG didn't--there is no mention of Wikipedia on that page whatsoever. (Also, the AWBG page has a "All contents © copyright ANOC" tag at the bottom, which also violates CC's Share-Alike clause.)
At the same time, it's possible that this is merely a common occurrence, and I simply haven't been here long enough to encounter this before.
All of which is a long-winded way of asking: is this copying of Wikipedia a problem worth discussing further, or would it be better to simply ignore this, considering I'm planning on rewriting half the article (per WP:NOTHOWTO) anyways? TheHardestAspectOfCreatingAnAccountIsAlwaysTheUsername 03:46, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding Suspected Plagiarism of the Article's Lead