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Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Archive 27

message: So an anonymous user nominated Mirror Universe (Star Trek) for VFD for an absurd reason and has universal keep vote (sans Barno's merge & redirect, but that's another discussion about WP:FICT all together).
I'd like to propose that VFD's proposed by anonymous users can be removed without continuing the VFD unless a user "sponsors" the VFD by supporting the VFD.  Now consider that loosely stated.  Putting an article with universal opposition to deleting is just wasteful of resources and I'd like to add exemptions, if you will, to avoid cases such as this one.
Now, please don't consider my proposal a black & white issue.  What about it would you support (if any) and what about it would you oppose (if any)?  Any other stipulations or conditions to add? Cburnett 06:30, May 8, 2005 (UTC)
*well it wasn't the first time that a previously-never-seen anon has nominated an article for deletion as their first act. I'd certainly support the principle that if a sysop sees it before there are any comments on the nomination they can 'speedy remove' the nomination as - effecively - a case of vandalism unless they want to 'sponsor' is you suggest or unless others have started to comment in support. --Vamp:Willow 11:13, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anonymous VFD's 

message: ... should only be done on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Log/Today, Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Log/Yesterday, Wikipedia:Votes for deletion (long form) and Wikipedia:Votes for deletion.  Please do not place the purge server cache links on the individual day pages. -- AllyUnion (talk) 22:44, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Server cache purging... 

message: Somebody (an anon user, seemingly with very few previous contributions) nominated my Tourneys in A Song of Ice and Fire for deletion and almost followed procedure. However, he or she seems to have failed to do the crucial third step: to actually get the page listed on the VfD list. As far as I can see, this means that very few people will find it to provide any feedback. Also, nobody will actually ever remove the VfD template. What to do? Should I be so courteous as to actually get my own article listed on the VfD page? Wouldn't that make it an automatic speedy delete? Or could somebody else "sponsor" the anon user's nomination, possibly even by adding a valid reason for the deletion? Surely there is be some fancruft-hating deletionist out there who would help me out of my moral dilemma? Arbor 19:22, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should I finish somebody else's VfD proces?
Talk:Pavel Haas

message: *Article: :de:Pavel Haas
*Corresponding English-language article: Pavel Haas
*Worth doing because: no article
*Originally Requested by: --Sheynhertz-Unbayg 14:24, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Article creation

message: It is much more likely that the evil Dr Mengele admitted him to the camp hospital where he died of tuberculosis, pneumonia or some similar disease. The evil Dr Mengele caught typhus himself whilst treating patients like Otto Frank who survived. Another composer, Schulhoff was interned in a camp but the commander exempted him from working in the fields because he had tuberculosis and allowed him to continue composing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.129.97.88 (talk) 05:15, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  The cough 

message: The homicidal gas chamber of Auschwitz has not yet been found. The Tourist edifice displayed there is a Russian-built replica built after the war, as admitted by the museum director decades ago. The large chimney is not attached to the building or its ovens. Where is the real homicidal gas chamber? The only actual gas chamber known to date was only used to keep inmates alive by disinfecting their clothing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.129.97.88 (talk) 05:23, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which gas chambers? 
Talk:E. Fuller Torrey

message: I have archived all the old... disputes. Don't get too comfortable though as I intend to make new ones. Jason A. Jensen of USA (talk) 06:55, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  A fresh Start 

message: Yesterday I added a paragraph, and someone deleted the paragraph without notifying me, or leaving his name. 
If you object to an edit, please let me know so we can discuss it first.
Thanks,
Wikiwonderwhy101 (talk) 17:35, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see WP:BLP. This is the Wikipedia policy that governs material concerning living persons. It is a very strict policy, and it is taken very seriously here. I am concerned that your edits may not be in accord with it, and have accordingly reverted them. Because of the controversial nature of the material that you added, you should wait for further discussion before restoring it. Wikipedia editors are not obliged to notify other editors when they revert their edits (though there is an automatic system that does this). Wikipedia editors are also not obliged to give their real names. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 20:53, 2 October 2013 (UTC)

text: You have misunderstood BLP if you think that it automatically permits one to state something in an article so long as it is a fact. BLP requires, among other things, that the principle of due weight be strictly observed (see WP:DUE). It may very well be true that Torrey appeared on CBS News and that his appearance was controversial, but that doesn't mean that this fact belongs in the lead of his Wikipedia article (you might have a better case if you wanted to include it somewhere else). It is also inappropriate to state in the lead that scientific research contradicts Torrey's views. That is using the article to try to discredit him, and it's quite unacceptable. Unless the research in question specifically mentions Torrey, it's not even relevant to this article. FreeKnowledgeCreator (talk) 19:39, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Communication 

message: The following link is dead: http://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/pressroom/Bio1.htm
Please use this archive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20041128071609/http://www.treatmentadvocacycenter.org/pressroom/Bio1.htm Tiwaking (talk) 15:21, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead Links 

message: About improving bathing development 175.176.76.199 (talk) 22:58, 28 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal development
Talk:HDMS Agdlek (Y386)

message: Isn't the spelling Agdlek, not Aglek?  
I created Agdlek class cutter about four days after this article was created.  I didn't know this article existed.  I used the spelling on the Royal Danish Navy article.  --  Geo Swan 10:06, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Archive 29

message: The new per-day hierarchical structure for VfD appears to have been working very well for some weeks, with no significant complaints. 
We should now consider retiring the old "long form" version of the page, which seems to serve very little purpose, given the new scheme. Keeping it has two disadvantages: 
* it presents a severe load on the WP servers whilst being rendered, since it is both huge and makes extensive use of templates, and provides a potential denial of service attack vector
* it will be rendered many times a day, since it will be hit by crawlers, and will not be cached effectively, since it is updated regularly
* when accessed deliberately, it tends to choke Web browsers presented with multiple megabytes of content, and the new hierarchical VfD is an easier way to navigate the VfD discussions, in any case
I'd like to ask other VfD users:
* does anyone still use this "long form" version of the page?
* does anyone have any other arguments for keeping it?
 
-- The Anome 10:13, May 27, 2005 (UTC)
:I expected that I would continue to use the long form, but actually as I make extensive use tabs when browsing, I can still see all the votes I want easily by opening multiple days. As I can load several days simulatenously quicker than the single long form I no longer use it. Thryduulf 11:30, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As someone who still uses the long form, I have no problem with removing it. It would only mean I'd open five tabs instead of just one, which is no big deal. --cesarb 13:07, 27 May 2005 (UTC)

text: I don't see a problem with keeping the long form. I don't think there's anything wrong with keeping up the page for those folks that want to continue using it. --Deathphoenix 13:46, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal: Retirement of obsolete [[Wikipedia:Votes for deletion (long form)]] page
Talk:Clement

message: Hi there,
Does anyone know if St. Clements cake is anything to do with this article or related to the saints?
Thanks
I am the Contessa Anna M de Marigny  , My ancestor  Enguerrand La Portier de Marigny who was Minister of France the in the reign of Philip The Fair. Because of all I have read and going to France tatherdal O Notre Dame @ Ecouis  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.137.157.77 (talk) 05:35, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Taira no Kiyomori

message: I'm pretty certain that the Kiyomori character in this film is very loosely based on the historical figure. 69.204.205.190 (talk) 06:05, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sukiyaki Western Django

message: In the paragraph beginning, "In 1171..." the above two similar names are used. Are they different people or are they the same person? If so, which is the correct spelling? 
Also, I could not maintain a coherent succession of Emperors in my head while reading this article. The names change a lot, but seem to do so randomly and not according to a chain of events in time. Sorry I can't work on this myself. Thanks for your hard work! Geekdiva (talk) 09:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Prince Tokihito and/or Tokuhito?

message: There is no mention of his major involvement in the first Genji game, Dawn of the Samurai. Why? 69.38.205.7 (talk) 22:47, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genji games? 

message: This article starts with following text, "Taira no Kiyomori (平 清盛?, 1118 – March 20, 1181) was a general of the late Heian period of Japan."  I think that "general" is translated as "shogun 将軍" in Japan, or anyway it means the grade for a person who is the top of forces. But Kiyomori was not a shogun, his highest grade was "太政大臣" meaning like prime minister. That is, he had a grade as a statesman, not as a top of military system. One grade of him which is close to shogun would be 兵部卿, like a secretary of defence, and it is for the statesman as well. Therefore I think it is wrong to refer him as a general. Japanese Wikipedia starts with following words. 「平 清盛（たいら の きよもり）は、平安時代末期の武将・公卿・政治家である。」 in English, "Taira no Kiyomori was an officer, a lord, and a statesman of the late Heian period." There are no words meaning a general. 
This difference is significant. The next leader of Samurai, Minamoto no Yoritomo was the first person who was bestowed the grade of Shogun. He rejected to get the grades for statesman because he thought that it meant he was included in the imperial ruling system, and he thought that Kiyomori finally failed to govern Japan because of it. Yoritomo started Samurais' independent governing system. Thus Kiyomori must not be referred as a general and it's essential to understand Japanese history.--82.226.178.134 (talk) 00:04, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is he a general?
Talk:Renfield

message: According to recent Vampire Novel like Bite Club ... A Renfield also means a companion of a vampire who was formerly a mortal. And was at some point been created through a blood exchanging process with a vampire. A Renfield in Bite Club is considerably weaker than an actual vampire, but can dwell during the day and is immortal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.159.254.2 (talk) 10:37, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternate Renfield meaning

message: Really? Klaus Kinski portrayed "Renfield" in the Herzog film?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.77.161.11 (talk) 21:54, 23 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Portrayal

message: I looked at the Bedlam Assylum, and I really don't see how this relates to the character of Renfield.  So, why is it on the article? -Diabolos 17:03, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: External Links

message: In the Books of wonder edition  of the Novel it says it's R.J. under a picture of him. but i'm notr sure if this was a misprint or some sort of eror or weather it's true? anyone know Tnu1138 (talk) 22:58, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  R.M or R.J.  

message: the link for 'PC' in the sentence 'In the PC game Dracula: Origin' redirects to Personal compterz  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.124.108.66 (talk) 02:28, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silly link 

message: Research material needed for the "Bram Stoker Dracula" 1992 'Little Theatre Leicester needed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.196.44.189 (talk) 17:12, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mortals who have played the role of Renfield in Repetiore Theatre
Talk:Chill (role-playing game)

message: Try these (maybe)
--Craw-daddy | T | 10:00, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great!  Thanks, I'll look over those later today. Web Warlock 10:34, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible references?

message: I'm also not sure why this was tagged with the Wikipedia:Notability (organizations and companies) tag as it seems completely inappropriate for the article in question.  --Craw-daddy | T | 14:06, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Organizations and Companies????

message: Could we get a section devoted to content creators that create stuff with the editions of Chill? It would be awesome if people including myself had a place to find some creators that make Chill content. ChillLover1995 (talk) 19:51, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual Play Podcasts and Other Internet Media
Talk:Miguel Llobet

message: The article guesses that Llobet is not well-known because of his early death. While a death at 60 is unfortunate and sad, is it really early? Most extremely well-known composers died at a much younger age (mozart at 35, beethoven at 57, schubert at 31, Mahler at 51, Tchaikovsky at 53, Bizet at 37, Borodin at 54, and I can continue...).
So whatever reasons there are for him not to have become well-known, I doubt it's his age at death.
Nyh 10:51, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Hallo everyone! Hi Robert!
It really is shocking to include other people's recordings in this page. Why? Because this page is about Llobet. On the page of Mozart, you also don't see a list of recordings (for obvious reasons). (Oh and note this: Except for Llobet's own recording, I don't like any of the other recordings to date, and highly doubt that will change anytime soon. So I also don't want to see recording advertisements in the future, if you know what I mean...)
Consider what you are doing (talk) 10:29, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Other people's recordings
Talk:Sumo (band)

message: IIRC, the name of the tribute disk was actually "F You" and not the longer version... elpincha 11:31, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: New Musik (Luca did the chorus in the song called "Living by Numbers" of 1979). Luca also knew Sid Vicious. More friends????....John Foxx, David Sylvian, Buzzcocks, Howard Devoto, Midge Ure, Gang Of Four, Simple Minds, Thin Lizzy???? I think sometimes Luca's life is incomplete. He He.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Francodamned (talk • contribs) 19:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  More UK punk/new wave associates???
Talk:Baku Akae

message: The opening sentence says he "was/is" a Japanese novelist, which looks very unprofessional. Does anyone know whether he is still alive? Agentsoo 11:38, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: His works were nominated for Naoki Prize. And he was born in Yamaguchi, Japan in 1933. And he maybe isn't dead. Kzhr 12:54, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead or Alive?
Talk:Simon Jones (cricketer)

message: The link to the player profile is broken: the correct link is http://content.cricinfo.com/ci/content/player/15555.html. anton 11:38, August 5, 2005 (UTC)
:Fixed. --Ngb 11:43, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link broken 

message: Is Jones really a welsh playing for england? The governing body is called the English and Wales Cricket Board, so I guess he plays for something like "England and Wales"?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.228.160.128 (talk) 19:26, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the team is called "England". Incidentally, Kevin Pietersen was born in S. Africa and still plays for England, a team selected by representatives of the England and Wales Cricket Board. Confused? It gets worse: check out the story of Kepler Wessels or John Traicos perhaps. --Dweller (talk) 12:08, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wales isn't a real country so doesn't have a national team - unlike Scotland, Ireland and England which are real countries so do have a team. Welsh people are more than happy to support or play for England, because they know that a backwater like Wales couldn't run a piss-up in a brewery.... yet alone have an international cricket team.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.2.100.134 (talk) 09:54, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Playing for England??
Talk:The NewZealand Story

message: Why does the article say that the villain is a Leopard Seal? He's quite obviously supposed to be a walrus (wally the walrus, not wally the leopard seal) as is stated in the English game manual. I know that the artists probably drew the wrong animal, but Bugs Bunny doesn't look much like a real rabbit either.
no tilde on this keyboard, sorry  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.244.65.115 (talk) 22:36, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Leopard Seal?

message: I was under the impression that the little seen 'Liquid Kids' was an official sequel to New Zealand Story. See, e.g. 
this site.
I love the New Zealand Story!!! Kategorian 12:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: New Zealand Story is indeed excellent and remember playing this for hours at time when I got it with my new Amiga 500 Batman pack. As for Liquid Kids, it is unofficial sequel. They are both platform games and broadly similar and Liquid Kids is now out on Amiga as Freeware! :)
YourPTR! 19:41, 6 May 2007 (UTC)

text: See WP:VG/GL#Dealing with remakes - if there is enough verifiable information (from WP:Reliable sources) about the remake, it can be written about here. At the same time, we don't normally link to "homebrew clones" (WP:VG/EL.) I'd like to see some coverage of The Kiwi's Tale beyond the Retro Remakes site (and disregarding directory entries such as MobyGames) Marasmusine (talk) 10:59, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Liquid Kids
Talk:Hip hop soul

message: :By the late 90s, the genre had diverged into two distinct styles. One group of artists included many who had previously recorded in hip hop-soul, and had become the new pop-inflected sound of urban contemporary into the next decade. This style lacked the hardcore and solful urban "grinding" feel on which hip hop-soul relied, and focused more on solo artist as the 2000s progressed. Recordings in this style are sometimes indistingishable from urban pop, with less imphasis on soulful singing. Some artists who have succesfully recorded in this style include Usher, Beyoncé and Destiny's Child, Sisqó and Dru Hill, Brandy, R. Kelly, Aaliyah, TLC, and Ashanti, "the Princess of Hip Hop and R&B".Some artists, such as Alicia Keys, mixed the style with neo soul, a cross between hip hop beats and 1970s style soul instrumentation and singing. Many artists of this genre have a bohemian hip hop or Native Tongues.
"Hip-hop soul" refers to a very specific sub-genre of R&B/soul music, songs like "Real Love" by Mary J. Blige and "Tell Me" by Groove Theory that actually use pure hip-hop beats for the backing of sung vocals The music of Usher, Brandy, Dru Hill, etc. is not hip-hop soul; it is simply contemporary R&B. Hip-hop soul has not actually existed since about 1997, when it evolved into neo soul.--FuriousFreddy 11:57, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right; Amerie and a few others brought the sound back. I don't know about Fantasia, however; I've heard her album, and its sounds like standard R&B to me. I don't hear any of the rough-hewn beats you hear on Amerie's or Keyshia Cole's releases. --FuriousFreddy 01:09, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: >>Currently, hip-hop soul is experiencing a spike in popularity due to younger acts incorporating the sound. These acts include newcomers such as Jaheim, Amerie, Keyshia Cole, and Anthony Hamilton.<<
Anthony Hamilton is in no way a hip-hop soul artist. He is firmly in the neo-soul camp. I also agree with the above comment that hip-hop soul is specifically soul using overtly hip-hop beats/instrumentalisation. Hence most of the artists listed here are in fact contemporary R&B.
----
Hip Hop soul is a sub-genre of contemporary R&B. contemporary artists displaying a resurgence in hip hop soul include Ashanti with "Foolish" for certain, because of it's emphasis on the groove. That's what the subgenre was all about. That was the major diference between it and New jack's wild beats. Its important to note "the groove"_remember? The beats were often completly overriden by the groove. Without that grinding base line, it's not hip hop soul.--J. Daily 06:14, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  inaccuracies 

message: Currently, the article has two inline citations, and those are for a photo caption, not for the article's text.  Furthermore these merely corroborate Mary J. Blige's status within this style.  There's nothing to otherwise back up who performs in this style, much less what the style is. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 18:00, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research and sources
Talk:Materialization (science fiction)

message: This article was nominated for deletion but kept by default of no consensus being reached.  See Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Materialization (science fiction) for the archived discussion -- Francs2000 | Talk  11:59, 5 August 2005 (UTC)

message: Materialization (science fiction) just redirects right to teleportation, but that's not always how it's used in sci-fi; there are some examples of materialization of matter from energy or from nothing, for instance the replicator (Star Trek), the Grails from the Riverworld novels, in the tv series Ark II, one of the Tom Swift books from the '80s, and probably a lot more that I've forgotten. It deserves its own separate entry, I think. -- Noclevername 01:56, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Separate Article