Talk:Saiga-12

message: I agree with GarrettJL; there should be an article referencing the whole Saiga line of rifles and shotguns. --Neo3DGfx 04:00, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article for the whole Siaga line? 

message: [Tromix] lead delivery systems uses the Saiga 12 as the base weapon for a line of short barreled shotguns. I think that someone should add them in someplace.--Paulwharton 10:33, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Micro-8

message: If shortcomings are mentioned, should maybe also advantages be mentioned? Like loading advantages over normal shotguns. Also, some of the shortcomings there aren't really shortcomings, i.e. recoil part is not really a shortcoming, considering it is a combat shotgun for trained people. Could we deal with this issue?99.231.50.118 (talk) 07:39, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shortcomings? 

message: Some of that article reads like product placement. Especially lines like this one: "All these features along with the already great reliability of the AK system seem to make for the ultimate combat shotgun." 87.157.227.245 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 14:55, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advertising 

message: The rifles and the shotguns deserve to have their own articles.  The rifles are quite notable on their own.  Faceless Enemy (talk) 09:17, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "Deserve" doesn't really factor into it. Is there enough information in reliable sources to write separate articles? — The Hand That Feeds You:Bite 13:38, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it does.  Anyway, I can add more information about the rifles if they get their own article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faceless Enemy (talk • contribs) 21:10, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently it already exists as "Saiga semi-automatic rifle".  Guess I'll add some links in.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Faceless Enemy (talk • contribs) 06:38, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

text: I removed the tag since the article does exist.--MartinezMD (talk) 22:34, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Split Proposal

message: Under the "specifications" heading in the right-side text box, for "caliber", someone has put "it use gay bullets".  Oddly enough, I can't find this text in the editing mode.  Could someone please correct it to read "12-gauge, 20-gauge, .410 bore"?  Thanks. Bricology (talk) 06:27, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  vandalism 

message: Might be of interest for you:
Just seen on Bangladesh Army Internet-Site www.defencebd.com : weapons-used-by-bangladesh-army Izhmash Saiga-12 	Semi-automatic shotgun 	12 gauge 	 Russia
Best Regards
André Gasser  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.41.8.31 (talk) 21:48, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of the Saiga-12 by Bangladesh 

message: Oh yeah?] Why do the scare quotes need to stay? I'm assuming good faith. Don't make me look like an ass. Felsic (talk) 17:26, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll remove them again. If anyone don't like it they oughta discuss it here. Felsic (talk) 16:22, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Scare quotes discussion.  Felsic (talk) 16:41, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I think they're appropriate here, see , but whether they are or not, the whole section is very OR and not particularly notable.  There are no instructions on the Winchester 94/22's page for making it ban-compliant.  I'm going to remove that paragraph, and I think the whole section should be removed.  Thoughts?  Faceless Enemy (talk) 18:15, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Funny how you're ignoring the replies you got to your question. Sure, whatever delete the whole damn thing for all I care. Felsic (talk) 18:20, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the link directly addresses this issue.  It says that: "Punctuation can also be used for similar effects: quotation marks, when not marking an actual quote, may indicate that the writer is distancing herself or himself from the otherwise common interpretation of the quoted expression; the use of emphasis may turn an innocuous word into a loaded expression."   In this case, the term itself is not innocuous, so sticking to a neutral voice requires some distancing.  As I read it, it's referring to something more like "Mr. Smith, is a 'smart' person, with 'good' character." rather than "Mr. Smith wrote a letter to the editor opposing 'death panels.'"  In the first case, adding the quotations loads the sentence.  In the other, it adds neutral distancing.  Are you aware of other cases on Wikipedia where the actual terms themselves are contentious?  They could provide a guide to how we should approach such terms here.  Faceless Enemy (talk) 00:58, 24 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe you want to distance yourself from this term. But that ain't no reason to force your POV into the article. This isn't some pop culture neologism - it's a matter of law. There's no "death panel law" so you're making a false analogy. If we're gonna say the gun was banned as an assault weapon then just say it - don't insert a POV on the issue.Felsic (talk) 17:15, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scare quote need to stay 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: It doesn't make sense for 2 and 5 round magazines to be used when for a 2 round capacity it would be easier and cheaper to just manually thumb them in. Having a 2 or 5 round magazine for an automatic weapon would be an absolute waste of money for those mags.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:8A:4000:C480:3C12:91C6:6FD8:23D3 (talk) 17:45, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The purpose of the two round magazine is so that the sales and use of the shotgun in some jurisdictions and for certain purposes is compliant with the law. Many of the people who would be interested in obtaining two round magazines are doing so for bird hunting purposes so that they will comply with federal law,  With a two round magazine and one round in the chamber, the shotgun could be used legally for bird hunting. — Berean Hunter (talk) 18:17, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  2 and 5 round magazines? 

message: im genuinely sure that the picture used as "Saiga 12k" in the section "common configuration" is actually a Vepr 12 5.48.158.0 (talk) 02:45, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: After thoughts, i may be wrong 5.48.158.0 (talk) 02:57, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of wrong picture