Talk:Culture of Birmingham

message: We need to disaggregate the historical elements from a contemporary profile of the arts in the city.  I suggest three pages: "History of the fine arts in Birmingham" / "History of Music in Birmingham" / and "Arts in Birmingham" (strictly for a profile of the city now).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.155.182.168 (talk) 11:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: This article is an unweildy mess

message: Of Steve Winwood and Dave Mason, the article said "the last two being close friends of Jimi Hendrix. Winwood played on 5 Hendrix LP's and Hendrix first heard "All Along The Watchtower" by Bob Dylan at a party he was invited to by Mason, he decided to record his own version the same night with Mason playing acoustic guitar." I can find no evidence that Hendrix ever came to Birmingham so I have deleted this passage.  The information about Hendrix is not relevant here. --Theo  (Talk) 23:07, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Theo, this took place in London not Birmingham, why did you assume that it took place in Brum? 195.92.67.69 22:10, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I did not assume that it took place in Birmingham.  Indeed, I imagined that it did not take place there.  Since the event did not take place in Birmingham, it seemed irrelevant to the article. So I deleted it.  I recognised, however, that I might be mistaken even though I did check that no event of this nature had occurred in Birmingham—because such an occurrence would merit inclusion here. --Theo  (Talk) 22:25, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Hendrix

message: Let's go to source. Go to the site of Luminar plc, and search for "Jools". A quick skim finds that "in April 2000 we acquired the Jam House, a branded going concern concept, in conjunction with Jools Holland based in Birmingham", and that he's "on board as the venue’s musical and creative advisor" (which isn't a managerial post - the guy has a career). So he's probably a co-owner, but certainly doesn't "run" it in the general admin sense. RayGirvan 21:47, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Luminar's annual reports for the past few years have stated that Jools Holland was granted an option on 50,000 shares at £8.77 "to strengthen the company's relationship with [him]". The option is contingent upon him remaining involved with the Jam House until 2006. He may be a co-owner but we cannot conclude that from this.  I think it most likely that he is being offered contingent remuneration for consultancy.  I would guess that he was an owner of the Jam House before its acquisition by Luminar. I cannot confirm this without recourse to Companies House records. Perhaps someone with a subscription could check. --Theo  (Talk) 22:52, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Reasonable conclusion. The FT November 2, 2000 describes the acquisition (no earlier details) saying the Jam House "is fronted" by Jools Holland. Birmingham Post, October 11, 2000: "Jam House, which has the considerable cachet of Jools Holland as one of its backing names". Basically we're talking a token role for them to have a prestigious name to wave. RayGirvan 23:42, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw Jools recently live, quite superb, I have also visited the Jam House Nick Boulevard 23:26, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Jools Holland and Jam House

message: See Literary connections with Birmingham for many more examples of Birmingham and related authors. RayGirvan 22:56, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This is why I find wikipedia interesting. Nick Boulevard 23:30, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Biographies

message: Birdland were actually from Kingsbury, south of Tamworth.  Their record label was in Coventry.  Still not Brummies, either way.  --Brumburger 21:23, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birdland 

message: Andy: Please explain why the two pieces of information and the two typos that you reintroduced to the aricle are enhancements.  Your assertion that "their music bore no resemblance to Led Zepeplin" is not even supported by the written and musical sources.  Members of Band Of Joy have commented that Plant used some of the band's pieces for early Zeppelin numbers; have you ever heard anything by Band Of Joy or do you have a source stating the dissimilarity?  And why is the legality of graffiti pertinent to this article? In my opinion the place for comments on the legality of graffiti is in the Graffiti article. —Theo  (Talk) 11:57, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Theo and all, graffiti art is carried out illegally in Brum but many legal pieces are still carried out like for example in Selly Oak ball park, the Custard Factory and in Selfridges, thanks for picking up on Andy's adjustments, I look forward to his clarification on his Led Zep edits. Nick Boulevard 00:09, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Led Zeppelin precursors and graffiti

message: Sources:
http://www.skillset.org/uk/westmids/article_1831_1.asp
http://www.publications.bham.ac.uk/annual-review-03/june.htm
http://www.transdiffusion.org/pmc/studio1/circles.htm
Nick Boulevard 16:23, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Media

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