Talk:Independence Day (Israel)/Archive 1

message: *April 24, 2007 (Tuesday)
This holiday is listed as on 23 April I understand that there's always some confusion what with jewish holidays starting at sun down and lasting until the next sun down. Which date is correct? I don't know, nor could I reliably check. -Kode 14:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not only that, but 2007 is only the second invocation of the "monday" clause, first instituted in 2004, which pushes it to tuesday if it lands on monday.  All software written before 2004 and not updated would put it on April 23, instead of the correct April 24. -Vonfraginoff 06:36, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Timing

message: The article states: "These four new days [including Yom HaShoah] are not accepted as religious holidays by Hasidim and Haredim. These groups view these new days as Israeli national holidays." I don't think anyone views Yom HaShoah as anything Israeli considering it commemorates the Holocaust and has little to do with modern Israel.
:Good point, but consider this: Yom HaShoah is officially recognized by the Israeli government. --Keeves 15:25, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sure. So is every other Jewish holiday, which precede Israel by centuries and are perfectly recognized by religious groups. :) 38.112.113.242 15:35, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, how's this idea: The question of the religious/Israeli status of Yom HaShoah does not belong on this page, which is only for Yom Ha'atzma'ut. Each of those 4 days has its own Wikipedia article, and that's where these questions should be discussed. Therefore, in a couple of minutes, I'm going to move links for the other three holidays down to the See Also section, and rename what's left of the "New Israeli/Jewish holidays" section as "Yom Ha'atzma'ut Observances". --Keeves 15:45, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Those changes have now been made, except that I did not add anything to the See Also section, since all those holidays are already included in the infobox at the very bottom of the article. --Keeves 16:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yom HaShoah 

message: This description from the article: "Yom HaShoah V'Hagevurah - Holocaust Remembrance day, on 27th of Nissan, commemorates the date of the uprising in Warsaw Ghetto in 1943", despite the initial translation, makes it sound like the purpose of the day is to commemorate the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, which is obviously only one facet of the commemoration of the Holocaust itself. 38.112.113.242 15:36, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Also on Yom HaShoah 

message: Keeves, I agree with your last edit - that information did not belong. What do you think about moving the page to Yom Ha'atzmaut, without the second apostrophe. It's more accurate, since there is an /א/ there, not an /ע/, and more importantly, it's the most popular spelling on Google. Pending comment, I am prepared to move the page. --DLandTALK 16:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My personal preference would be to remove the first apostrophe, and to leave the second. My reason is that I prefer transliterations which bring a native English speaker to a close approximation of the correct pronunciation, over a scholarly mapping of Hebrew letters to English letters. In this case, I see the first apostrophe as optional, because an English speaker will tend to pronounce "haatz" and "ha'atz" the same way, as two syllables. But without the second apostrophe, an English speaker is likely to pronounce "maut" as a single syllable, to rhyme with "fought", whereas "ma'ut" forces the speaker to separate the syllables (though the pronunciation of the "u" will still likely be wrong). OTOH I can't argue with your Google results. Therefore, I suggest leaving it as is until others comment. --Keeves 23:06, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just came upon this article again. It's been more than long enough without comment, so I'm going ahead with the move. With regard to your concern about the pronounciation, that's why we have the IPA pronounciation (sort of...) listed in the first sentence. --DLandTALK 18:59, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling 

message: I am curious as to where the information comes for this. It seems possible that people would fast and wear sackcloth for the holiday that immediately precedes Yom Haatzmaut, Yom HaZikaron, the Rememberance Day that is a day of national mourning for those who died in Israel's wars, terrorist attacks, etc. Why would we harp on death on the next day too when we've already observed the mourning? Also, I haven't seen anyone mourning it but I have seen some angry Hassidim. Valley2city 18:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your last line is the one closest to what that author was trying to say. You haven't seen them, but yes indeed, there are some who are so opposed to the existence of the State that they do indeed recite various prayers of mourning on this day. I'll try to rewite that paragraph to make it clearer. --Keeves 01:26, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt this is true. Hebrew wikipedia doesn't mention it but just the demonstration of extreme group like neturei karta and angry articles from certain haredi papers. Never heard of this mourning, and I doubt it happens or noteable enough. Amoruso 02:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

text: All I can say is that last year I was in Israel and on Yom Haatzmaut the haredim blocked the streets  and burned trash cans. We joked that they were building huge Yahrzeit candles for Yom Hazikaron. I guess, just as the observances of the holiday are still developing, so are the methods of protesting it. Chag Sameach. --Valley2city₪‽ 16:57, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fasting and sackcloth? 

message: As this is the English language Wikipedia the article should use the English name, "Israeli Independence Day" or something similar.  I propose moving. PatGallacher 21:16, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason that the title of the article is transliterated from the Hebrew name is that "Yom Ha'atzmaut" is a more commonly used term than any other, including "Israeli Independence Day". --DLandTALK 22:10, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: More commonly used in the English-speaking countries?  I doubt it. PatGallacher 22:55, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Check Google and see for yourself. --DLandTALK 23:10, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I found the article by looking for it under Israeli Independence Day" as figuring out how to transliterate Yom HaAtzmaut, was difficult. Shia1 14:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Title of article

message: This is an Israeli holiday, not a Jewish one.  It seems to be miscategorized, but I'm hesitant to remove the category in case there's a good reason. Oren0 01:52, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Jewish Holy Day?

message: Such a broad generalization with no citation does not belong in the article.  There are not only Muslim Arabs in Israel, but also Bedouin, Druze, and Christian Arabs.  While Muslims may not celebrate Yom Ha'atzmaut, other Israeli Arabs most certainly do.  The article on Arab citizens of Israel is a good reference in this issue.
It is my understanding that Christian Palestinians do not like Israel just as much as Muslim Palestinians do not like Israel, though their idea of proper resitence may be different. (The same could, by the way, be said for Jewish Palestinians.) THe article on Arab citizens of Israel mentions that though nearly 10% of Palestinians are Christian, only a dozen or so serve in the army. The rest do not want to betray the Arab world or Palestine. Do you have a source for Christian Palestinians celebrating the day in any greater numbers than Muslims? Or for bedoines? I'll leave this up for a few days for a response, then I'm deleting that bit of hasbarah as unsourced. 82.81.104.93 18:20, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Arab citizens of Israel do not celebrate the day?

message: I have moved this article to Independence Day (Israel) based on WP:COMMONNAME used in the English language media in Israel. For illustration, combining Haaretz, Jerusalem Post and Ynet, the totals are:
*Yom Haatzmaut: 6 + 2 + 29 = 37
*Independence Day: 1,060 + 774 + 469 = 2,303
Number 57 13:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're move of this page is bold, and also disruptive. --Shuki 17:34, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Shuki. LordAmeth 18:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I also agree with Shuki.  Please talk about it here first before moving things.  --GHcool 19:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm also with Shuki. "Independence Day" may be used on the English-language websites of Israeli newspapers, but who is their intended audience? Perhaps people who aren't familiar with the Hebrew name? People who aren't familiar with Israeli holidays? Among people who are familiar with Israel, the name "Yom Ha'atzmaut" is much more common — even among English-speakers who may not know much Hebrew (in the United States, for example). — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 19:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Firstly "Be Bold" is a Wikipedia guideline, as is WP:COMMONNAME. The evidence in favour of the English is overwhelming. Having lived in Israel for several years, no-one ever used Yom Haatzma'ut when speaking to me in English; only in Hebrew. Number 57 08:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry that was your experience. My multinational company advises foreigners at our office in April/May that Yom Hashoah, Hazikaron and Haatzmaut are holidays. --Shuki 16:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't be sorry, it makes life much easier if people are consistent. The multinational company I worked for used the English names! Number 57 16:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page move

message: I added to the bullet point for the Conservative practice this text:  "Some places also read the haftarah normally read on the last day of Pesach."  Is this tradition observed in other branches also?
And I just realized I have access to the selection; I'll revise my text to state the actual verses. A More Perfect Onion (talk) 13:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haftarah 

message: Keeves, I agree with your last edit - that information did not belong. What do you think about moving the page to Yom Ha'atzmaut, without the second apostrophe. It's more accurate, since there is an /א/ there, not an /ע/, and more importantly, it's the most popular spelling on Google. Pending comment, I am prepared to move the page. --DLandTALK 16:59, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My personal preference would be to remove the first apostrophe, and to leave the second. My reason is that I prefer transliterations which bring a native English speaker to a close approximation of the correct pronunciation, over a scholarly mapping of Hebrew letters to English letters. In this case, I see the first apostrophe as optional, because an English speaker will tend to pronounce "haatz" and "ha'atz" the same way, as two syllables. But without the second apostrophe, an English speaker is likely to pronounce "maut" as a single syllable, to rhyme with "fought", whereas "ma'ut" forces the speaker to separate the syllables (though the pronunciation of the "u" will still likely be wrong). OTOH I can't argue with your Google results. Therefore, I suggest leaving it as is until others comment. --Keeves 23:06, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just came upon this article again. It's been more than long enough without comment, so I'm going ahead with the move. With regard to your concern about the pronounciation, that's why we have the IPA pronounciation (sort of...) listed in the first sentence. --DLandTALK 18:59, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling 

message: As this is the English language Wikipedia the article should use the English name, "Israeli Independence Day" or something similar.  I propose moving. PatGallacher 21:16, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason that the title of the article is transliterated from the Hebrew name is that "Yom Ha'atzmaut" is a more commonly used term than any other, including "Israeli Independence Day". --DLandTALK 22:10, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: More commonly used in the English-speaking countries?  I doubt it. PatGallacher 22:55, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Check Google and see for yourself. --DLandTALK 23:10, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I found the article by looking for it under Israeli Independence Day" as figuring out how to transliterate Yom HaAtzmaut, was difficult. Shia1 14:23, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Title of article

message: I am curious as to where the information comes for this. It seems possible that people would fast and wear sackcloth for the holiday that immediately precedes Yom Haatzmaut, Yom HaZikaron, the Rememberance Day that is a day of national mourning for those who died in Israel's wars, terrorist attacks, etc. Why would we harp on death on the next day too when we've already observed the mourning? Also, I haven't seen anyone mourning it but I have seen some angry Hassidim. Valley2city 18:26, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your last line is the one closest to what that author was trying to say. You haven't seen them, but yes indeed, there are some who are so opposed to the existence of the State that they do indeed recite various prayers of mourning on this day. I'll try to rewite that paragraph to make it clearer. --Keeves 01:26, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt this is true. Hebrew wikipedia doesn't mention it but just the demonstration of extreme group like neturei karta and angry articles from certain haredi papers. Never heard of this mourning, and I doubt it happens or noteable enough. Amoruso 02:52, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

text: All I can say is that last year I was in Israel and on Yom Haatzmaut the haredim blocked the streets  and burned trash cans. We joked that they were building huge Yahrzeit candles for Yom Hazikaron. I guess, just as the observances of the holiday are still developing, so are the methods of protesting it. Chag Sameach. --Valley2city₪‽ 16:57, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fasting and sackcloth? 

message: Such a broad generalization with no citation does not belong in the article.  There are not only Muslim Arabs in Israel, but also Bedouin, Druze, and Christian Arabs.  While Muslims may not celebrate Yom Ha'atzmaut, other Israeli Arabs most certainly do.  The article on Arab citizens of Israel is a good reference in this issue.
It is my understanding that Christian Palestinians do not like Israel just as much as Muslim Palestinians do not like Israel, though their idea of proper resitence may be different. (The same could, by the way, be said for Jewish Palestinians.) THe article on Arab citizens of Israel mentions that though nearly 10% of Palestinians are Christian, only a dozen or so serve in the army. The rest do not want to betray the Arab world or Palestine. Do you have a source for Christian Palestinians celebrating the day in any greater numbers than Muslims? Or for bedoines? I'll leave this up for a few days for a response, then I'm deleting that bit of hasbarah as unsourced. 82.81.104.93 18:20, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Arab citizens of Israel do not celebrate the day?

message: I have moved this article to Independence Day (Israel) based on WP:COMMONNAME used in the English language media in Israel. For illustration, combining Haaretz, Jerusalem Post and Ynet, the totals are:
*Yom Haatzmaut: 6 + 2 + 29 = 37
*Independence Day: 1,060 + 774 + 469 = 2,303
Number 57 13:58, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're move of this page is bold, and also disruptive. --Shuki 17:34, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Shuki. LordAmeth 18:35, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I also agree with Shuki.  Please talk about it here first before moving things.  --GHcool 19:00, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm also with Shuki. "Independence Day" may be used on the English-language websites of Israeli newspapers, but who is their intended audience? Perhaps people who aren't familiar with the Hebrew name? People who aren't familiar with Israeli holidays? Among people who are familiar with Israel, the name "Yom Ha'atzmaut" is much more common — even among English-speakers who may not know much Hebrew (in the United States, for example). — Malik Shabazz (Talk | contribs) 19:21, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Firstly "Be Bold" is a Wikipedia guideline, as is WP:COMMONNAME. The evidence in favour of the English is overwhelming. Having lived in Israel for several years, no-one ever used Yom Haatzma'ut when speaking to me in English; only in Hebrew. Number 57 08:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry that was your experience. My multinational company advises foreigners at our office in April/May that Yom Hashoah, Hazikaron and Haatzmaut are holidays. --Shuki 16:30, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't be sorry, it makes life much easier if people are consistent. The multinational company I worked for used the English names! Number 57 16:33, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page move

message: do not move. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:50, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yom Ha'atzmaut → Israel Independence Day — As this is the English wiki, the name should be in English. Thoughts anyone? Philly jawn (talk) 20:18, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

text: Oppose. I WP:AGF that you missed the previous discussion about this from two years ago that you just archived. The talk page is not that long and contains previous discussion. I don't see a justification to archive it at this time. Pleae see Talk:Yom_Hazikaron and Talk:Yom_HaShoah#Requested_move.  --Shuki (talk) 20:45, 16 June 2009 (UTC)

text: Oppose'. This the most widely used term.--Gilabrand (talk) 05:27, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Move

message: I added to the bullet point for the Conservative practice this text:  "Some places also read the haftarah normally read on the last day of Pesach."  Is this tradition observed in other branches also?
And I just realized I have access to the selection; I'll revise my text to state the actual verses. A More Perfect Onion (talk) 13:29, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haftarah 

message: The specific ritual involved in observance of this day is a matter of controversy. Some Religious Zionists have declared that Yom Ha-Atzmaut is one of the Jewish Holidays in which Hallel should be said. This view has, however, been rejected by the majority of Orthodox Jewish halachic decisors including members of the Chief Rabbinate of Israel.
The above is not totally accurate. After all, the Chief Rabbinate are the ones who said that one should say Hallel and I don't think the majority of Orthodox poskim said not to say Hallel. Most think Hallel should be said, some say without a blessing but I don't think you can say that a majority reject the practice of Hallel on Yom HaAtzmaut.
:Both don't really matter, since this is a non-religious holiday. Israguy (talk) 08:47, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: ritual

message: The article states: "These four new days [including Yom HaShoah] are not accepted as religious holidays by Hasidim and Haredim. These groups view these new days as Israeli national holidays." I don't think anyone views Yom HaShoah as anything Israeli considering it commemorates the Holocaust and has little to do with modern Israel.
:Good point, but consider this: Yom HaShoah is officially recognized by the Israeli government. --Keeves 15:25, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sure. So is every other Jewish holiday, which precede Israel by centuries and are perfectly recognized by religious groups. :) 38.112.113.242 15:35, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, how's this idea: The question of the religious/Israeli status of Yom HaShoah does not belong on this page, which is only for Yom Ha'atzma'ut. Each of those 4 days has its own Wikipedia article, and that's where these questions should be discussed. Therefore, in a couple of minutes, I'm going to move links for the other three holidays down to the See Also section, and rename what's left of the "New Israeli/Jewish holidays" section as "Yom Ha'atzma'ut Observances". --Keeves 15:45, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Those changes have now been made, except that I did not add anything to the See Also section, since all those holidays are already included in the infobox at the very bottom of the article. --Keeves 16:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Yom HaShoah is a modern non-religious holiday, established by Israeli law. Its date and customs are set by Israeli law. Jews around the world can mention this day, if they like, but they are not religiousy obligated to. Israguy (talk) 08:52, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yom HaShoah 

message: This description from the article: "Yom HaShoah V'Hagevurah - Holocaust Remembrance day, on 27th of Nissan, commemorates the date of the uprising in Warsaw Ghetto in 1943", despite the initial translation, makes it sound like the purpose of the day is to commemorate the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising, which is obviously only one facet of the commemoration of the Holocaust itself. 38.112.113.242 15:36, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a "Gevurah" part to this day: remembering the bravery of the few who did rise up to the germans. Israguy (talk) 08:55, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Also on Yom HaShoah 

message: This is an Israeli holiday, not a Jewish one.  It seems to be miscategorized, but I'm hesitant to remove the category in case there's a good reason. Oren0 01:52, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a holiday that many Jews (and other non-Jews, including non-Jewish Israelis) celebrate, and some have attributed it with religiouis significance - but not a "Jewish" holiday. They are not the same. It is a national holiday. Jewish holidays appear in the Torah and Talmud and the texts of Jewish religious law. Israeli Independance day is a secular holiday. Just cause lots of Jews do something doesn't necessarily make it Jewish. Would one call sweet red wine a "Jewish" beverage just cause lots of Jews santify Shabbat with it? Chesdovi (talk) 10:07, 25 June 2013 (UTC)

text: I guess it all boils down to Who is a Jew, or in this case: What is Judaism? In my mind, it would be a total travesty to believe that the State of Israel has been anything but a catastrophe for Judaism. Its establishment was carried out in violation of Jewish law and against the will of the majority of rabbis.  Its institutions have consistently endeavoured to diminish the role of Jewish law in society, hoping to replace the Jewish faith with secular Hebrew nationalism devoid of God and the Torah. And it has been tremendously successful in doing so. Had it not been for the demands and political clout of the so reviled ultra-Orthodox, there would not be much left of the Jewish state. Rather a State for Jews is what would exist - what its founders had aspired for. Are we to celebrate its independence as something related to Judaism? The religious Jews who imbue Israel with religious significance have merely fallen victim to Zionist idolatry. Chesdovi (talk) 13:55, 10 October 2013 (UTC)

text: And which authorities permit the shedding of Jewish (and gentile for that matter) blood to enable the founding of a state where Jews are able rule themselves? None, I would hope.  And with the latest anti-Jewish law passed by the Knesset which will see state-funds made available to allow thousands of abortions for non-medical reasons, the murder will continue. Very Jewish indeed. God has His reasons for the continued existence of the accursed State of Israel, just as He had His reason for the bestial Nazi murder of 6 million of His children. But human intellect would suggest the difference between the two is that in the Holocaust, Jews were killed for being Jews – through their deaths, the Holocaust martyrs sanctified the name of God. But today, Jews are killed around the world because of the secular Zionist enterprise. Jews are targeted not because they are Jews, but because they are automatically identified with Zionists. And it was the Zionist founding fathers who despised religion and God who provoked the nations against "us" by thrusting Israel on to Arab land. I can think of no worse desecration of God’s name - being killed in the name of Zionism. And this sin Jews wish to sanctify and celebrate?  A Jew is obliged to give up his life in order not to commit one of the three cardinal sins. "Israel" is not the fourth. That so many religious Jews have been intoxicated with the forbidden wine of Hebrew nationalism is just too bad. Chesdovi (talk) 14:28, 16 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Jewish Holy Day?

message: I have pruned a part of the Arab reactions sections, because that section was about reactions to some Arab reactions and reactions to _those_ reactions and the related court proceedings. Wiki already has an article on that subject which is linked in the text, so there's no justification to giving over 10 percent (2,517 / 17,706 = 14.2%) of this article for a complete coverage. This makes as much sense as entering a long discussion of the SCOTUS cases over flag burning into the Flag of the United States article and reactions to the outcome and so on. If anyone wishes to make a more prominent link that would be fine with me, but the previous section was simply WP:REDUNDANTFORK bordering on WP:UNDUE IMHO.79.179.99.186 (talk) 20:17, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Pruning a section

message: The statement "in Israel's capital city Jerusalem" is an NPOV violation. As I said in my edit summary "it is an NPOV violation to employ Wikipedia's unattributed neutral narrative voice to describe Jerusalem as Israel's capital". There can't be a valid WP:CONSENSUS for a a statement that violates policy. This issue has been discussed extensively at Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Jerusalem. There are many ways to rewrite the statement in such a way that it does not misuse Wikipedia's unattributed neutral narrative voice. The policy violation will be corrected in due course. Its correction is simply inevitable. Sean.hoyland - talk 15:30, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: BTW, if you are going to continue to edit, you should remove the RETIRED template. I recall reading a few months back that it is a violation to continue to edit while having that template. Sir Joseph (talk) 16:06, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed it to describe it as the seat of government rather than the capital. Hope this is okay. —  Cliftonian (talk)  16:42, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV violation

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message: *April 24, 2007 (Tuesday)
This holiday is listed as on 23 April I understand that there's always some confusion what with jewish holidays starting at sun down and lasting until the next sun down. Which date is correct? I don't know, nor could I reliably check. -Kode 14:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not only that, but 2007 is only the second invocation of the "monday" clause, first instituted in 2004, which pushes it to tuesday if it lands on monday.  All software written before 2004 and not updated would put it on April 23, instead of the correct April 24. -Vonfraginoff 06:36, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Turns out I already explained the detauls once: check out http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/pipermail/linux-il/2010-April/004313.html Nyh (talk) 12:05, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
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message: Add (* Yom-Ha’atzmaut BimBam Jewish Animation) at the bottom of the article under "External Links."  This is a link to a website for a Jewish animation company called BimBam that specializes in animated videos that instruct about a variety of Jewish topics.  This link in particular is to their video about Israeli Independence Day. Jewishnerd (talk) 19:54, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: * Comment: Editor has been added links to BimBam on many articles in the last few hours. Validity of the website should be verified before adding the link. Jumpytoo Talk 20:02, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
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*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130329152858/http://ph.yhb.org.il/en/category/zmanim/04-yom-haatzmaut-yom-yerushalayim-yom-hazikaron/ to http://ph.yhb.org.il/en/category/zmanim/04-yom-haatzmaut-yom-yerushalayim-yom-hazikaron/
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Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 14:20, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Checked. StevenJ81 (talk) 17:40, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: It's 2018.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.224.79.1 (talk) 07:22, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timing 

message: Please change
The next occurrence of Yom Haatzmaut will take place on 8–9 May 2019. 
to 
The next occurrence of Yom Haatzmaut will take place on 28–29 April 2020.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Nslonim (talk • contribs) 14:52, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: , though the truth is that I'm an hour or so early. (It's still Independence Day at this moment.) StevenJ81 (talk) 15:30, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit Next Yom Haatzmaut

message: Please link between Torch-lighting Ceremony (Israel) and the "Independence Day eve" paragraph. for some reason it is not been linked yet. Sincereley, Chaimkapusta (talk) 11:44, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Link

message: Israeli Independence day was yesterday, April 18th.
Not "19 May 2018 (Thursday, advanced one day to Iyar 4)" .
איתן (talk) 08:11, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: False information

message: In this line:
Rabbi Eliezer Melamed, Peninei Halachah – Zmanim, Yom HaAtzmaut
The current code is:
* Rabbi Eliezer Melamed, Peninei Halachah – Zmanim, Yom HaAtzmaut
The correct code with the updated link is:
* Rabbi Eliezer Melamed, Peninei Halachah – Zmanim, Yom HaAtzmaut
link:
https://ph.yhb.org.il/en/category/zemanim/05-04/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by AYHB (talk • contribs) 14:05, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Archive links help prevent link rot, and there is no change between the two links. Sennecaster  (What now?) 16:19, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken link repair 

message: change
The most recent occurrence of Yom Haatzmaut took place from sunset to sunset, 14-15 April 2021.
to
The most recent occurrence of Yom Haatzmaut took place from sunset to sunset, 4-5 May 2022. Dfa1234 (talk) 13:19, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: MadGuy7023 (talk) 19:25, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 6 May 2022 

message: In the "short description" box, the lines: Pinchast (talk) 07:25, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 01:14, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 March 2023 

message: On the table at the top of the page, could someone fix it so it can show 2022, 2023, 2024, and 2026? The table only shows 2025. Can you please fix the table? Please. 2600:6C48:427F:9122:3593:26E4:5A00:25C0 (talk) 03:23, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 13:21, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 March 2023