Talk:John Gibson (American soldier)

message: Some of the John Gibson information is derived from the historical fiction writings of A.W. Eckert.  This should be removed and more reliable sources found.
TruthBastion (talk) 23:50, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I beleive I have removed the content in question, thank you for pointing that out. The majority of this article is sourced from Woollen and Gugin, which are qutie reliable. —Charles Edward (Talk | Contribs) 12:31, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad sources... 

message: I removed some of the fictional elements, but John Gibson still needs help from some better sources.
TruthBastion (talk) 06:39, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes 

message: The issue of who Gibson's Indian wife was in complexed.  However, the fact that he had such a wife is easier to demonstrate.  The source for this I will use for now is Charles Augustus Hanna The Wilderness Trail (1911) Vol. 1, p. 380.  He cites David McClure as a source, and also references Pennsylvania Archives 4, 199.  This author expresses the view that Gibson's wife was the "sister-in-law" of Logan.Johnpacklambert (talk) 19:41, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gibson and wife at Logstown 

message: While I probably was too quick to believe the factual basis of Eckert's writting, the fact that he has made Gibson one of the top ten chracters in That Dark and Bloody River, however factual that may be, maybe should be mentioned.  However, Eckert is not the only one who loves to spin tales of Gibson.  Chronicles of Border Warfare, p. 78-79 tell a tale of Gibson commanding a detachment of soldiers from Ft. Pitt in 1758 and killing a Mingo leader then.  The notes in the 1895 version by Withers, Thwaites and Draper, I am guessing Thwaites and Draper edited the first text by Withers, point out that this story is pure fiction because the Brithish did not even take command of Fort Pitt until after Gibson was said to have lead a detachment from it.  There are other points in the story that make some of its inferences even less likely to be true, and it is possible there is no basis in fact in the story, or if there is times, dates and who knows what else are wrong.  My point in bringing it up is that John Gibson is a popular person to stick in stories, a man who fact and fiction almost blend in.  We may want to create an "in literature" or similar section to deal with that.Johnpacklambert (talk) 20:14, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gibson in lore, legend and fiction 

message: As we have thus far been able to find any reliable source that contradicts the information as it is currently in the article, I propose we removed the factual accuracy tag. If anyone remains objected to this, could you please give a specific quote from the article that is inaccurate, and provided a source to show that it is innacurate. —Charles Edward (Talk | Contribs) 17:43, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factual accuracy tag 

message: There are at least some sources that state he had a daughter by his Mingo wife.  Even if this is not provable, it seems there is not consensus that he had no children.  To make things more fun the article on William Harvey Gibson says that he is a grandson of this John Gibson.  That would require Gibson to have had a son that was born, or his daughter to marry a Gibson, either of which are possible, but it would help if there were more sources on the matter.  That link maybe should go to a different John Gibson, I do not know.  However it currently goes here.John Pack Lambert (talk) 20:48, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably the "none" under children in the infobox was just an editorial oversight, since the article mentions a daughter. I believe you are the only editor to cite Hanko's biography on Gibson. If you still have access to it, what does it say about children? —Kevin Myers 21:04, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does it say he had no children?