Talk:Greek and Roman Egypt

message: The above title was added later by Carcharoth 11:27, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: No title

message: In 332 BC Alexander the Great, King of Macedon, conquered Egypt, with little resistance from the Persians. He was welcomed by the Egyptians as a deliverer. He visited Memphis, and went on pilgrimage to the oracle of Amun at the Oasis of Siwa. The oracle had the good sense to declare him to be the son of Amun. He conciliated the Egyptians by the respect which he showed for their religion, but he appointed Greeks to virtually all the senior posts in the country, and founded a new Greek city, Alexandria, to be the new capital. The wealth of Egypt could now be harnessed for Alexander's conquest of the Persian Empire. Early in 331 BC he was ready to depart, and led his forces away to Phoenicia. 
===Ptolemy I===
===Ptolemy II===
===Ptolemy III===
===The decline of the Prolemies===
jfkrk cejfv ej 'vE IEJ  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.114.151.85 (talk) 19:03, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Ptolomaic Egypt

message: jfkrk cejfv ej 'vE IEJ  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.114.151.85 (talk) 19:03, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The decline of the Prolemies

message: OK, my revised markup for the top position of Cleopatra is in place. Does it work well for everyone, keeping the Egyptian TOC with Cleopatra on the right in one column, with the text and article TOC to the left? Anyone think that this one is worse than either of the two originally being discussed? Jamesday 09:58, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Did the revised markup work for everyone?

message: Next topic: should we keep my revised markup or move the image of Cleopatra to the bit of text describing Cleopatra, where the second copy of the image currently lives? Poll time. Jamesday 09:58, 14 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poll: what next - where does the Cleopatra picture stay?

message: Hy, I am propossing a split of this article into two articles. The first should deal with the Greek period of Egypt, beginning with Alexander the Great, passing to Ptolemy and ending with Cleopatra or with her son Ptolemy the XVI ?. A good title will have to found, of course perhaps "Greek Egypt" or "Ptolomaic Egypt" or even "Hellenic Egypt". Personnaly, I like the second one best.
The second should deal with the Roman rule of Egypt beginning with the conquest of Octavian and ending with Arab conquest of this country. Allready a article exists called :Aegyptus (Roman province), making it only a matter to transfer the revelant paragraphs towards it. 
Well this is my proposal. What do you think? Flamarande 12:15, 7 June 2006(UTC)
:I agree completely; as a title for the first Greek part, wouldn't Hellenistic Egypt better than Hellenic Egypt?--Aldux 11:35, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am NOT sure about this, but I have gathered that "Hellenistic" is a mistake, the correct adjective being "Hellenic", like Hellenic people. However, personaly I like the term "Ptolomaic" (it might be written badly) best. There was only one macedon dynasty in Ancient Egypt, the Ptolomeys. Honestly, I don´t know what the commonly used term might be. Flamarande 11:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hellenistic is a convention, like Byzantine; but to call it wrong would be like to call wrong Byzantine, and the term is sanctioned by past and modern scholarship. That said, I wouldn't see anything wrong in Ptolemaic Egypt.--Aldux 11:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I searched in the links provided in the article about :Zahi Hawass, but his page istelf did not diffrenciate over Greek (in reality Macedon) and Roman rule. The entire period is called Graeco-Roman. I am not planning to expend a lot of time in this (busy in other stuff). I proppose that we create an article called :Ptolemaic Egypt transfer everything prior to the conquest of Octavian there and then transfer the Roman stuff (some stuff will appear in both of them) to :Aegyptus (Roman province). We have also to show both new articles in the box above (box which shows all the diffrent periods). Only when we are finished can we request a "erradication" of this empty article. What do you think?  Flamarande 12:05, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree on your plan, it seems great to me.--Aldux 12:49, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hellenistic would refer to the Hellenistic period, Hellenic would refer to the Greek people or possibly their culture. Hellenistic Egypt looks like the one you want. --Nema Fakei 13:03, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I sincerly believe that Ptolemaic Egypt would the best available choice. Ok, Starting the reform....Flamarande 13:08, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hellenistic is idiomatic (although a convention) in English; see W. W. Tarn: Hellenistic civilixation; Ptolemaic might be better (but do we want to exclude A;exander?)> Septentrionalis 21:21, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  shouldn´t we split this article into "Greek Egypt" and "Roman Egypt"? 

message: In fact, I've been bold, and I've removed the redirect and turned this into a stubby disambiguation page that will hopefully turn into a summary style article. Carcharoth 23:01, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing redirect 

message: The Ptolemaic Kingdom and Egypt (Roman province) articles made this article's content redundant. I thus took a bold step and turned it into a disambiguation page. --BomBom (talk) 15:26, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguation page