Talk:List of Nintendo DS and 3DS flash cartridges

message: Could someone please help to find links to either articles or homepages of these products? thanks
(And note that Stores and Your website with affiliate links in NOT an "Official websites")
*hxxp://www.r4ishop.com/ 
*hxxp://www.nds-gear.co.uk/
*hxxp://www.ndsmods.co.uk/ 
*hxxp://www.buy-acekard.com/
*hxxp://www.buy-r4i-3ds.com  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.182.149.9 (talk) 11:03, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added an unofficial websites list as I can't find official websites for some of the products. I also found an interesting article about the future of these types of flash cards. (BillyR4 (talk) 10:39, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Which site infringes U.S. copyright, and what is your evidence that this site infringes U.S. copyright? There's a difference between Pocket Heaven or GBATemp, which documents that piracy happens, and a ROM site, which actually contains the infringing goods. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 12:53, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

text: GBAtemp.net does not contain any illegal material whatsoever. Memebers talking about and giving links to warez are severely punished and under most cases banned immediately.
Romachine Kernel and R4i SDHC
R4i SDHC should be considered  geuine, and you can find a long fake r4s list on http://romachine.webs.com/faker4s.htm and why dosent make a Wood R4 article and Romachine Article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Byt4112000 (talk • contribs) 17:51, 6 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussions

message: the section for this device is extremely biased against it. Mr toasty 01:21, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then go ahead and delete everything negative about it that doesn't have a citation. Also, go ahead and find citations for all negative comments made about it arch-rival R4. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 12:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with this. The only game that appears to be problematic with slower SD cards is Castlevania: PoR. While I would agree it is somewhat dependant on MicroSD speed, this section reads like its written by a competitor and has no citation. --RabidJackal (talk) 19:03, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  supercard DS one 

message: That part of the of the page bugs me, it makes it see as if the M3DSS is a cheap rip off of the R4, from what I understand the m3 team and the r4 team worked together on it. "It is almost exactly the same as the R4DS, and can even use modified versions of R4DS firmware." It's not as if the R4 couldn't use the m3 firmware, (though I don't see a reason why you'd want to do that). Until someone thinks of a better solution than bashing the M3DSS I'm going to edit the two sections and merge them, seeing how they are essentially the same product. 71.30.188.72 21:46, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  m3 DS Simply 

message: Anything new with this product that should be included?Hnc (talk) 20:56, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It supports GBA backups and homebrew software if you buy it with a GBA-Pak (there are 3 variants in shops, the variant with GBA module is called M3 real perfect, which also includes a rumble pak and RAM-extension[such as for NDS browser])--62.158.72.100 (talk) 23:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  M3 Real 

message: Where is there _no_ mention of official Nintendo cards??  I am now an official DS developer and the 512 card I have is labeled Nintendo M18-X1. (I am unable to read the back Chinese text.) Michael.Pohoreski (talk) 06:48, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you actually are an in-house dev, then would your work really even be considered 'home-brew' anymore? Besides, I highly doubt those devices are open to the public, whereas everything listed here is available to anyone who is able to order them.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.89.184.206 (talk) 23:04, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Just to add I came here looking for info on this. I saw an official one today at a Ninentdo Black and White preview event. If I'd realised there was so little info, I'd have taken a picture. It was quite a bit bigger than the unofficial commercial ones and jutted out the top of the DS quite a way. It also seemed to be screwed in pretty tightly, unsurprisingly! Object In Space (talk) 22:52, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Nintendo Cards?? 

message: I am notice lot of use of problem with Engrish.
↑ Ok, that was just a sarcastic jab at it. Even so, I'm not sure where to start in correcting it. I could fix the misspellings, but then again what was the intent of some of the wordings? I'm not sure how to proceed without angering people. And is it worth it considering that the notability of the list is in question? Maybe replace it with just a description of the flash card/console modding/homebrew scene instead of a checklist type listing? --FazzMunkle (talk) 19:27, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor grammar. 

message: The R4DS team has said that they have firmware version 1.19 in the works, but they have since canceled development of it. There are no official firmware versions after 1.18.
I removed a section that had a link to a file anonymously stored on MegaUpload that contained an alternative firmware. After examining the file, I can confirm that it was actually YSMenu, which is a firmware that is developed by Yasu. The author does not allow pre-packaging of his software to be hosted by third parties. I linked to an R4DS Forum thread that contains all of the information on YSmenu (particularly because Yasu's official site for YSmenu is in Japanese).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.165.247.146 (talk) 04:01, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding R4DS firmware 

message: why is there no section on the nintendo ds fire card. It does store games without a micro sd.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Treeloop (talk • contribs) 02:04, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  fire card 

message: This article is nothing but really a list of non-notable written with no sources and as so fails NPOV cards with a few select being notable (I.E. M3 and R4) but none of them are deserving of their own article. I propose that any notable cards that have plenty of 3rd party sources that ARE NOT from forums, homebrew communities or from their respective websites or the sites that sell them on this page be merged into it's parent article Nintendo DS homebrew and the ones that are not notable be removed and forgotten until notable and that when merger is complete this page be redirected to Nintendo DS homebrew. Feel free to change or amend.Rgoodermote  21:51, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger_proposal 

message: According to r4i.co.uk they only sell Genuine R4 cards including the R4 SDHC(for DS/Lite) and R4i SDHC(for DSi), so are these actually official, or cheap clones like wikipedia currently suggests. Lmcgregoruk (talk) 15:12, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  R4 SDHC 

message: A separate Nintendo DSi / DSi XL Storage Devices page was created, for which a merge was proposed. The discussion has been inactive for about a month, and I have proceeded to redirect it here. Dancter (talk) 22:38, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Nintendo DSi / DSi XL Storage Devices page

message: I disagree that the edit undone with this edit was advertisement.  It didn't mention a website address, or phone number.  Does anyone else have thoughts on this?--Rockfang (talk) 07:15, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, that was poorly labelled for the revert reason on my part.  The bigger issue was that this was more of a crystal ball issue, describing an unreleased product which is still in development, where even the website is currently not available.  Future products should have reliable sources supporting statements about them, as there are extra challenges to verify details on such future items. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 07:23, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes sense.  I wasn't disputing the revert itself, I was just a tad confused by the edit summary.  Thank you for posting here.--Rockfang (talk) 07:27, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: To help eliminate the confusion, I reverted my own revert ... then restored the revert using the more accurate reason I mentioned above.  Sorry about the confusion. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 07:32, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  A recent reversion of of an edit as "advert" 

message: I think the format for Wikipedia should be more like...
Have Nintendo DS Storage Devices be about the purpose and legality of the devices. I think each of the products should be listed on there own page if they can sustain their own page. Each page they have should have a synopsis of the legal ramifactions of owning one of those devices. 
The summaries of there uses can stay until proof that they are encouraging law-breaking behavior appears. 
A discussion on this subject is welcome.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by BRiMaTiOn (talk • contribs) 12:13, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Format Proposal 

message: Forums and Wikis are inherently unreliable, they should not be used as sources. IRWolfie- (talk) 21:34, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forums and Wikis 

message: I removed the "advert" tag dated April 2012, as I believe the article is an objective description of a notable product range. It mentions their limitations as well as their abilities. Any lingering POV can be addressed by copy editing, for which it's already tagged. --Stfg (talk) 13:23, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed "advert" tag