Talk:Medical prescription

message: In the referenced article Belknap et al, the first line of the abstract provides the definition of prescription. This has become garbled with successive edits. I have corrected the cited definition and restored the reference to the article.
The change from the old "compounding prescription" to the new "instructions to the patient" prescription is a matter of historical fact. The sentence about "legal implications" would seem to belong at the end of the paragraph, otherwise the text is garbled. I have restored the text for this section to its previous version. If there is something you disagree with, please post your explanation. Thanks. Sbelknap (talk) 20:52, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Definition of Prescriptions

message: From New Jersey official statutes:
:45:14-55  Use of New Jersey Prescription Blanks.
:16. a. A practitioner practicing in this State shall use non-reproducible, non-erasable safety paper New Jersey Prescription Blanks bearing that practitioner's license number whenever the practitioner issues prescriptions for controlled dangerous substances, prescription legend drugs or other prescription items.  The prescription blanks shall be secured from a vendor approved by the Division of Consumer Affairs in the Department of Law and Public Safety.
:b. A licensed practitioner practicing in this State shall maintain a record of the receipt of New Jersey Prescription Blanks.  The practitioner shall notify the Office of Drug Control in the Division of Consumer Affairs as soon as possible but no later than 72 hours of being made aware that any New Jersey Prescription Blank in the practitioner's possession has been stolen.  Upon receipt of notification, the Office of Drug Control shall take appropriate action, including notification to the Department of Human Services and the Attorney General.
:45:14-56  Health care facility prescriptions.
:17. a. Prescriptions issued by a health care facility licensed pursuant to P.L.1971, c.136 (C.26:2H-1 et seq.) shall be written on non-reproducible, non-erasable safety paper New Jersey Prescription Blanks.  The prescription blanks shall be secured from a vendor approved by the Division of Consumer Affairs in the Department of Law and Public Safety.  The New Jersey Prescription Blanks shall bear the unique provider number assigned to that health care facility for the issuing of prescriptions for controlled dangerous substances, prescription legend drugs or other prescription items.
:b. A health care facility shall maintain a record of the receipt of New Jersey Prescription Blanks.  The health care facility shall notify the Office of Drug Control in the Division of Consumer Affairs as soon as possible but no later than 72 hours of being made aware that any New Jersey Prescription Blank in the facility's possession has been stolen.  Upon receipt of notification, the Office of Drug Control shall take appropriate action including notification to the Department of Human Services and the Attorney General.
:45:14-57  Requirements for prescription to be filled.
:18.A prescription issued by a practitioner or health care facility licensed in New Jersey shall not be filled by a pharmacist unless the prescription is issued on a New Jersey Prescription Blank bearing the practitioner's license number or the unique provider number assigned to a health care facility.
:45:14-59  Format for New Jersey Prescription Blanks.
:20.The Division of Consumer Affairs in the Department of Law and Public Safety shall establish the format for uniform, non-reproducible, non-erasable safety paper prescription blanks, to be known as New Jersey Prescription Blanks, which format shall include an identifiable logo or symbol that will appear on all prescription blanks.  The division shall approve a sufficient number of vendors to ensure production of an adequate supply of New Jersey Prescription Blanks for practitioners and health care facilities statewide.
:::I just removed the above content again. This kind of material can go on Wikisource but is not right for inclusion into Wikipedia.  Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:05, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Exhibit E: New Jersey requirements for prescription blanks

message: It might be more convenient to split out Appendix 1 into a subsidiary article. This would be partially to facilitate linking to it from the Latin medical phrases category, such that people looking for the translations of these abbreviations don't have to find this page. It seems inelegant to link to the main article from the category page. What do you think? Octopod 10:26, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split out Appendix 1? 

message: There's plenty this can apply to, and the article does have a very strong US flavour (flavor?) but one little thing that doesn't often get mentioned is that the abbreviation "Rx" is not in everyday colloquial use in the UK. I don't know about within the medical profession, but if you wrote "Rx drugs" you'd get a lot of blank looks from the general population. 86.136.250.133 04:05, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's true, but Rx is widely used in pharmacies and healthcare companies and by doctors in the UK, myself working for one at the moment. Josh 22:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Globalize tag 

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message: I'm not sure how to change it, or even if I can, but I think that prescription medicine should redirect to Prescription drugs rather than Medical prescription.58.104.18.126 (talk) 07:44, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  Thanks for flagging. Samw (talk) 00:57, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change redirect? 

message: Physicians are not the only class of healthcare worker to write prescriptions.  Even if you use "prescription" to mean "orders to take a drug", there are many non-physicians that are allowed to write such orders.  Dentists, for example, routinely order painkillers and antibiotics.  This article should not exclude non-physicians.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:55, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Physician or other medical practitioner 

message: Rx is not the "order to take a drug" but rather the order to make, package, and/ or dispense a drug. This order is commonly addressed to a pharmacist, as by law, they are the only ones allowed to do so with prescription drugs. In Germany, veterinarians have the same right as Pharmacists -- I don't know if this is true of the US. I'm currently in my 3rd year of vet school in Germany, which is why I have in-depth knowledge of this topic. 85.178.56.164 (talk) 16:50, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We need a published reliable source.  Do you have a textbook that makes these claims?  Is there a regulation somewhere that we can cite?  WhatamIdoing (talk) 01:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaning of Rx 

message: I am removing the tags at the top of this page, based on my independent judgment that I hold the article is sufficiently worldwide in scope. In the alternative, it can't be helped if it is centrally focusing on the US. But if anyone wishes to dissent, reinstate them. 68.236.154.4 (talk) 06:49, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing Tags

message: Recent edits reverted the article to an older version that clobbered any added or revised text and contains broken and incomplete citations.
Would you please explain why you are clobbering the edits of other users?
Whywhenwhohow (talk) 16:36, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverts 

message: It's certainly true that some abbreviations have become deprecated, some thought might be given to the specific examples cited.  While I can accept that the minim symbol does look like an "m" and might conceivably be taken to be an abbreviation for "meters", it's hard to see how this could actually result in any harm (considerable confusion, yes, but "meters" is so obviously nonsensical a unit for anything that might legitimately be measured in minims that the pharmacist would realize it couldn't possibly be the right interpretation).  For those not familiar with the units, it's more or less like asking for three feet of gasoline, and would provoke the same kind of "You want WHAT?" response. Ptorquemada (talk) 20:48, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  abbreviation confusion 

message: What is meant by "completing the command"? --89.204.136.52 (talk) 11:58, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "completing the command"? 

message: I boldly deleted as dubious the following, unsupported assertion:
:The fact that a prescription instructs someone to "take" rather than "give" is not a trivial distinction, but makes clear it is directed at the patient, and is not directly an instruction to anyone else.
It contradicted the well-supported statements, a few lines earlier,
:This symbol originated in medieval manuscripts as an abbreviation of the Late Latin verb recipe, the imperative form of recipere, "to take" or "take thus".[Fn. omitted] Literally, the Latin word recipe means simply "Take...." and medieval prescriptions invariably began with the command to "take" certain materials and compound them in specified ways.[Fn. om.]
Clearly, as others have observed above, "take" is an instruction, not to the patient, but to the pharmacist, who is fancifully still thought of as compounding the medicament prescribed.  The assertion that "take" is importantly directed towards the patient smacks of folk-etymology.  Why would physicians use a cryptic symbol for a Latin word in any communication directed to the patient, anyway? Prescriptions are obviously not intended for patients to read or understand. J. D. Crutchfield | Talk 17:52, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted dubious & unsupported statement. 

message: The lede implicitly has two different definitions of "prescription":
* Prescriptions may include orders to be performed by a patient, caretaker, nurse, pharmacist, physician, other therapist, or by automated equipment 
* the term "prescription" now usually refers to an order that a pharmacist dispense and that a patient take certain medications.
Most of the article uses the second definition, but the section "Non-prescription drug prescriptions" gives some info on the first.  Broadening the scope from drugs to all treatments listed on the medical treatment page would need a broader discussion of who is entitled to prescribe what.  
Relatedly, I've redirected doctor's prescription to medical prescription, but it formerly had this:
jnestorius(talk) 17:35, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Prescription for Romance Prescription for Murder Not sure about other uses.  Blue Rasberry (talk) 13:44, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Is there a prescription for butt kicking? Because I can think of someone who needs two tablets rectal STAT. :P Alaynestone (talk) 16:05, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-prescription drug prescriptions 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Completely unsourced pronunciation info, which seems to run contrary to every time I've ever heard the word in ever... It's always been pronounced "PREscription" by anybody who I've ever heard say the word in any country. There are some English regional dialects that say "puh-scription" but it's by no means a common or accepted pronunciation  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.51.186.222 (talk) 19:05, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  PERscription? 

message: In Continental part of the article there is a recipe for a drug to be prepared by a pharmacist. I checked the ingredients, and it realised that they are related, as I think. They are probably used for lethal injections in US, when they are mixed in greater amont. I read about it on Wikipedia's article on death penalty, and even if the substances listed about are slighly different, after reading about each one in details and comparing with the lethal injection mix, the may have similar effect.
Here's the question - should the substances in recipe be changed for neutral ones? I know every clever preson won't use Wikipedia to mix drugs, but I think these substances are quite serious, and if the recipe is demonstrative only, it may be fake (for example in "Fight Club" the explosive's recipe was not true too). Otherwise this article should have a medical notification in order to avoid using its content (recipe) in real world.
What do you think about it?
::The listed purpose of that Rx is for sleep (not for lethal injection).  It is difficult to get some of these ingredients as a layperson, and even then some responsibility must be taken by the reader for their own actions.  For example, should Wikipedia delete articles describing methods of suicide on the chance that someone might try it themselves?
::All that being said, if you can find an equivalent Rx that demonstrates the same principles with less risk, go ahead and be  bold Myoglobin (talk) 21:15, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should Rx drug recipe be changed to be more secure? 

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message: Can anyone come up with a better title for that section? It is rather meaningless, IMO. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 21:53, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section title: "Contents"