Talk:Small Sagittarius Star Cloud

message: The article talks about the "Sagittarius Star Cloud". However, there are two of them. The Large Sagittarius Star Cloud and the Small Sagittarius Star Cloud. M24 or Delle Caustiche is really the Small Sagittarius Star Cloud. Furthermore, NGC 6603 is merely contained in M24 and is not equal to M24.
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message: You added a good amount of information to the article Sagittarius Star Cloud. It was clear enough to follow and it flowed nicely with the rest of the article. I didn't see any grammar issues, and there are only two run-on sentences both in the third paragraph. In the third paragraph, maybe adding a transition towards the end to better transition into the last paragraph. Overall great work!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MAR2391497 (talk • contribs) 05:12, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
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message: After 15 years (see above), there is now a separate Large Sagittarius Star Cloud article. I have moved this article to add "Small" to the name, and added disambiguation. Assambrew (talk) 21:10, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved and renamed 

message: The article states: 
 
This statement (present since the article's creation) appears to be incorrect, though I have seen this repeated in several sources.  By contrast, Crossen and Tirion put the distance to Small Cloud objects at 16,000 ly,Crossen and Tirion, Binocular Astronomy, Willman-Bell, 1992, p. 126. about twice the distance of the Sagittarius Arm, and later state that "The dark interstellar matter framing the distant Small Sagittarius Star Cloud is associated with the third galactic structure visible in Sagittarius [i.e, the third after the Great and Small Clouds], the Sagittarius-Carina Arm, the next arm in from the Sun's.Crossen and Tirion, p. 149.  Crossen and Rehman (referenced in our article) state explicitly that ""We view M24 through a 'window' in the dust of the Str-Car Arm.  The Sgr-Car dust lane is about 5,000 to 7,000 light-years away, the star cloud itself centered perhaps twice as far."Crossen and Rehman, 2004, p. 137.
 
Similarly, the S & T article by Sue French (referenced in our article), states: "For the most part, the stars that lie along this section of the Milky Way, as well as the dark clouds that decorate it, lie within the Sagittarius-Carina Arm of our galaxy. This is the next spiral arm inward from ours, and it blocks the view beyond. Within the dark rift, however, a gap allows us to peer deeper into the galaxy. The stars that shine through this hole make up Messier 24, the Small Sagittarius Star Cloud."
 
My guess is that the other sources have misread sources like these, concluding that the Small Cloud itself is part of the Sagittarius Arm.  But the Small Cloud bears no resemblance to other objects that are in the Small Cloud Sagittarius Arm, like M8, M20, M17, the False Comet, or the Carina Nebula.  Such objects can be resolved in much more detail than the objects in M24, because they are much closer.
 
  Elphion (talk) 19:42, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which arm?