Talk:Slovenian Democratic Party

message: Is Janša's communist background really relevant in this case? At the time, the only way to enter politics was by joining the Communist Party, and virtually all of the major political figures in Slovenia have some sort of a communist background. Also, Janša was prosecuted for his critics of the Party in the infamous Trial of the Four and he doesn't associate himself with his communist past. Besides, other party articles (LDS, SD, NSi, SLS) do not include such data. edolen1 21:52, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Janša's background

message: Two things should be mentioned about the history of SDS: 
1. Its name SDS was most of the time of its history read as 'Social-Democrat Party'. They changed it only a few months ago to 'Slovenian Democratic Party'.
2. Now it may be a member of EPP, but at first it applied for a membership of another EU party - either Socialists or Liberals (I can not remember which).
Please someone with accurate information add this to the article. NikNovi 11:15, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History of SDS

message: In what meaning is liberal conservatism listed here? As Conservative on moral and social issues, or as more libertarian, promoting individual liberty with economic freedom? Thanks --Novis-M (talk) 01:24, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Both, in fact: conservative in regards to moral issues and traditional values, and liberal (classical liberal, not liberal in the American sense of the word) in the economic sense, promoting economic freedom and individual responsibility, and a reform of the classical welfare state while maintaining some kind of security net. Check out Liberal conservatism. Viator slovenicus (talk) 15:46, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks a lot. So SDP would be comparable to Republican Party in US and American conservatism, right? I already read that article, but it is really confusing - it doesn't clearly say what is the meaning of the term in modern European politics. --Novis-M (talk) 15:58, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Yes, it would be comparable insofar as they are both on the right side of the left-right division of the political spectrum. This is important also because of international relations (the SDP gets support from the International Republican Institute etc.). But if you take in account their programs and policies, I'm not sure how compatible they are. Someone who promoted a program similar to the SDP, would probably be left-of-the-centre in U.S. politics. In the European context, I'd say that the SDP policies are the closest to the Portuguese Social Democratic Party, the Finnish Kokoomus, or the Irish Fine Gael. Viator slovenicus (talk) 19:12, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I see...I only don't understand why isn't liberal conservatism simply called conservatism - it seems same to me - conservative on moral and social issues, free-market policy on economic issues. --Novis-M (talk) 19:17, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

text: I guess it's because in Europe, differently from the U.S., conservativism was historically not neccessarily liberal (that is, pro-free makret, individual freedom, etc.); an important part of European conservativism has been anti-Capitalistic, and before World War Two also anti-democratic. That is why in Europe, liberal conservativism is a rather different tradition from mere conservativism (which was often autocratic, authoritarian, traditionalist etc., frequently based on religious and traditional hierarchic values rather than on liberal values that have inspired the American constitution) Viator slovenicus (talk) 20:14, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh I see! You should add this information to the article about Liberal conservatism. So it is pretty much conservatism with elements of free market and more individual freedom. Then I guess we don't need to have Conservatism mentioned in the party's ideology. --Novis-M (talk) 20:23, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Liberal conservatism? 

message: Hey y'all! I have some problems with the section "Radical Populist Turn". If I remember correctly, the section used to be called "Conservative Turn" which is more neutral. There's little sourcing for the party's radical populism of that period: and the two mentioned are problematic. Rudi Rizman is quoted as a political scientist although he's trained as a sociologist; and he's the sole and only reference in this regard (the other article quotes Rizman and bases his whole analysis on him - so it's Rizman all over again, with a detour). Jambrek's quote doesn't refer at all to the period 1996-2000 (when he was in fact a supporter of the party), but to the period of the economic populist turn (ie. 2009-2011): check the date and the quotes. Viator slovenicus (talk) 13:30, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  possible bias 

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