Talk:Janjevci

message: Will cut the part about Tudjman out. The emigration of the Janjevci has nothing to do with Tudjman, or with any ideas being imputed to him here. -- B bog 17:04, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: parts about Tuđman, ethnic cleansing, etc

message: Is there any original Janjevac, who could contribute with authentic content, like pictures of traditional costumes, maybe an overview over the history, or any famous persons deriving from the Janjevci?
--B bog 19:02, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Janjevac wanted 

message: :This population exchange is allegedly due to a plan of Franjo Tuđman for ethnic homogenization in which he provoked Serbs to leave and colonized the parts where they previously lived (or still do, like in Kistanje) with Janjevci and refugees from Bosnia. This plan was written in his book Bespuća povijesne zbiljnosti/"Horrors of war" in which he favorised "humane relocation" (humano preseljenje). The Janjevci were also sutiable for this plan cause they had big birth rate and counted that they will overnumber aboriginal Serbs in short time.
This is the paragraph you want me to preserve, Luka?  
Give me one good reason to preserve it.  
Keep in mind: this isn't the Croatian (or Bosnian) Wikipedia.  If you have a debt to repay, repay it to the creditor, not to his errand-boys.  --VKokielov 13:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What in hell's name is this? 

message: Please, lets stop revert warring over something as stupid as an infobox. By including it you are giving off the impression that the Janjevci are a completely separate people from any other South Slavic ethnic group. To give you an example, Wallachians are still Romanians despite adhering to the term of their territory. Present a source that states the Janjevci are a separate ethnic group. 72.144.150.20 18:11, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not same thing, Wallachians are only regional designation, while Janjevci are an ethnic group. They are subgroup of Croats, but they also have their own identity, thus that qualify them to be an ethnic group. PANONIAN (talk) 22:20, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And if you want answer why they consider themselves separate ethnic group, it is because they are descendants of German miners from Transylvania that settled in Kosovo in medieval times. They are not Croats by origin. PANONIAN (talk) 22:34, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And by the way, the current sentence in the article that claim that "they are mostly descended from traders who settled in Kosovo during the 14th century from the Republic of Dubrovnik" is wrong, but I do not have time to correct this now. PANONIAN (talk) 22:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Any source for German origin thing? I don't see how could 14th century Germans in Kosovo be croatised? Maybe by powerfull propaganda from croatian TV from 15th to 19th century? --Ante Perkovic 22:55, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hahaha. Good one. No, I did read that they are descendants of Germans from Transylvania who were brought there by the Serbian rulers to work in mines in Novo Brdo. During the time, they adopted Serbian language as their own, but since they were Catholics they kept their separate identity. Later they identified themselves with Croats. Regarding my source for this, I do not know in which of the historical books I have I read that, but when I find in which one it is, I will tell you. Until then, I will not change anything about their origin in the article. PANONIAN (talk) 00:59, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Here you have something about this: http://www.stormfront.org/forum/showthread.php?t=84950&goto=nextoldest Quote: "U doba Nemanjica, u Srbiju su naseljeni i Saksonski rudari (Germani) , koji su danas znani kao Janjevci." I know that you will say that this is fascist site, but it was not my source. They just used same source as I do. :) PANONIAN (talk) 01:09, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ovo gore je teški WP:OR. Nadam se da ih ne uzimaš previše ozbiljno. Ja sam čitao jednu knjigu po kojoj su Hrvati sa Sirijusa. Tiskana je još u staroj Jugi. --Ante Perkovic 01:20, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ma rekoh ti da mi nije to izvor, to sam slučajno sada našao na Google search samo da ti pokažem o čemu se radi. Čitao sam o tome na sasvim drugom mestu, ali pošto imam mnogo istorijskih knjiga ovde, ne mogu da se setim u kojoj je tačno, a nemam sad vremena da ih sve redom čitam da bi našao podatak o Janjevcima. PANONIAN (talk) 02:22, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  They are as much a separate ethic group as dalmatinci, hercegovci, zagorci or anything else. on the balkans almost every village has its own identity, what does not make them an ethnic group automatically. ask them what they are, they will tell you. B bog 16:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

text:  I also heard that they descend from the Republic of Ragusa - but this is oral legends, even according to them. --PaxEquilibrium 13:57, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Janjevci - the only ethnic group to inhabit a single town

message: For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all  infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 20:46, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "related groups" info removed from infobox 

message: Because of rising anti-Croat rhetorics and warmongering in Serbian media (especially in Serb media on Kosovo) in late 1980's and Serbia's war preparations for the conquest of Croatia in 1990/91 
I think this sentence is a little too POV, surely. Hxseek (talk) 13:29, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: Everyone on this talk page takes them for immigrants of one kind or another. But Catholicism was quite widespread in Kosovo before. Can't they be a relic of indeginous Catholic Slavs (Catholic Serbs?)? Or, could they be Torlakicised Catholic Albanians? YOMAL SIDOROFF-BIARMSKII (talk) 15:37, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: What people are saying on Talk is irrelevant - what reliable sources say is what matters. If you have some to contribute, please feel free, otherwise, please let's not get into idle speculation. --Joy [shallot] (talk) 18:10, 25 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess this falls under Wikipedia:These_are_not_original_research. YOMAL SIDOROFF-BIARMSKII (talk) 15:36, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Immigrants? 

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