Talk:Close-in weapon system

message: Some information about the Goalkeeper CIWS can be found at 
To remind me when I make the article sometime in my Copious Free Time. Feel free to beat me to it. :-)
Kim Bruning 14:37, 16 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Goalkeeper info

message: Can the system use 2 guns per target? or is each CIWS gun/kit on a separate computer?
I saw the control panel, but i guess the navy doesn't want people to know how to run killing machines. Kinda like how railroads dissagree with train sim games, that treach people to run trains.
It can, but that would be a waste of valuable ammo.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Munchito696 (talk • contribs) 21:20, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  question 

message: "The current trend in CIWS is to use missile systems instead of guns, because guns have certain limitations ... Because of their greater range, a missile-CIWS can also be dual-used as a short-ranged area-defence anti-air weapon, eliminating the need of a second mount for this role. " 
Is it just me, or is this just a little to biased against guns and towards the use of missiles as point defence? Explaining the negatives of one type of system (ie guns), and the benefits of another type (missiles) kinda skews the point a little. Perhaps if someone mentioned disadvantages of missiles (such as once those 6 missiles have been expended, the mount is totally useless), and the benefits of guns (fire "warning shots", <10 min reloading time for Goalkeeper, more difficult to jam or whatever), this might help to make the article more neutral. 202.72.148.102 07:38, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  CIWS Missile Systems 

message: I know that the Standard has the ability to intercept some cruise and anti-ship missiles, and was wondering if this would justify it's mentioning in this article? Any thoughts? (USMA2010 18:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Sea Dart also has this ability, however its not its primary job. so maybe mentioning about SAM which can intercept missles would be relevant to the article.Corustar 16:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

text: The Article discusses Close In Weapon Systems - missiles like Standard and Sea Dart are very definately classified as Area Defence missile systems, and as such are not "Close In" - whether they can intercept missiles or not. Further, i dont believe that Standards are overly effective in launching/intercepting inbound anti-ship missiles (especially supersonic) within a 2km range that is typical of CIWS systems, let alone multiple missiles - the reaction system simply isnt fast enough i would imagine (particularly with a 1s warm up time of Standards). At the extreme, rifle/pistol bullets are capable of shooting down stuff ("Golden BB"), and presumably missiles as well, however this is highly improbable - though extending your argument that they can destroy missiles would mean that every small arms would also deserve a mention. Thus, i dont think Area AA should be included in the article. 58.7.186.48 08:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  RIM-66/SM-2 Standard Missile 

message: What does everyone think about adding main gun with anti-missile guided munitions used in CIWS role?  -- Adeptitus (talk) 23:10, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oto 76mm DART in CIWS mode 

message: The statement "Evolved Sea Sparrow missile, used aboard all Sea Sparrow-capable warships" may be incorrect, as trainable launchers such as the Mk 132 GML of the NSSMS Mk 57 and GMLS Mk 29 systems require modification in order to be capable of using the heavier, faster, longer-range quick-reaction ESSM.  Also, there are modifications to the hardware and software of the fire controlling systems.  I.E. not all NSSMS ships, and not even all re-architectured NSSMS (RNSSMS) ships are ESSM capable; they do not use missiles which they are not capable of using; ESSM is not used on those Sea Sparrow-capable ships.  Suggest changing word "all" to read "some".  144.183.224.2 (talk) 20:55, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  CIWS-sparrow missiles 

message: There is no way the 20mm M-61 has almost twice the range of the heavier, faster 30mm GAU-8. As it says "lighter projectiles have shorter effective ranges". Then look at the numbers for all the other 30mm+ weapons...all 10,000m+. But somehow the notoriously ballistically poor 20mm round matches them, while the superior GAU-8 30mm round makes a very poor last place? Sorry, I don't buy it. Considering that the same table on DARDO gives identical numbers, only with the 20mm taking last place, I'm comfortable saying this is an obvious mistake, and have swapped the numbers..45Colt 08:53, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reversed ranges  

message: "This also makes the timeframe for interception relatively short; for supersonic missiles moving at 1,500 metres per second (4,900 ft/s) it is approximately one-third of a second."
Which anti-ship missiles travel 1500 meters per second? That is 3355 miles per hour, about Mach 5 at sea level. Any examples? I don't think so. This is a nonsense calculation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.147.177.54 (talk) 22:58, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speed of anti-ship missile 

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