Talk:Boi (slang)

message: Don't agree with previous claim that "boyish" contradicts "somewhat effeminate."  Compromising with "young-appearing."  Also added "and in reality relatively young" because I think a "young-looking 65" would not fit the common usage.
:65.96.178.162 16:10, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah yes, that makes sense, thanks for clarifying - I was thinking "boy" as in gender, rather than as in age. Mdwh 17:03, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Boyish/effeminate/young

message: I've certainly heard the term "boi" used for bisexual boys also - in general, a feminine boy independent of sexuality (although it's probably true that it tends to almost always refer to bi or gay boys). I've also heard it used in the BDSM community to refer to submissive boys (again, usually implying femininity) as well as butch girls. Mdwh 02:30, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Bisexual and/or submissive males?

message: It most definitely is used in Goth (and sometimes Punk) subculture to refer to a young man not afraid to experiment with traditionally "feminine" things such as eyeliner, frills, etc. and as a protest against gender roles. Please don't remove my edits--google goth boi and it brings up hundreds of thousands of hits. It *does* exist in Goth. Snowgrouse 16:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punk/Goth subculture

message: A recent edit was made, edit reason stating "female-born is a cissexist term" which made two changes:
* New language / definition introduced as: "coercively assigned female at birth (cafab) person"
* Collateral damage which also removed an additional qualifier "or female-bodied" which is relevant to intersex bois in the following lines.
:I'm all for a less offensive rewording of "female-born" to instead be "female-assigned at birth" as I've personally never heard a transman refer to himself female-born anyway (though "female assigned at birth" I'm familiar with, however "coercively" strikes me as a weasel word / neutrality issue) Initially reverted to the old version which includes female-bodied (intersexed or otherwise) and will change "female-born" to "female assigned at birth" in the second one... Either way, removing "female-bodied" in wasn't justified in the reason listed for the edit in question. --Kuzetsa (talk) 01:33, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  politically correct language. 

message: I disagree with the move  from Boi (gender) to Boi (sexual slang), nor do I see where it was discussed? Whilst boi is not a gender as such[1], I don't think anyone's claiming that - rather it's a term that's related to gender, and that's all that the disambiguation implies.
[1] - Though what do we mean by this? The article says "Boi" is a term for someone's gender identity, so it seems reasonable to put it as such.
Perhaps there are better terms we could use - but I don't think "sexual slang" is right. It's a term that applies to ones sexuality or gender identity, but isn't directly about being sexual (I usually think of a rather different set of words when I think of "sexual slang"!) What about Boi (LGBT), Boi (LGBT slang), Boi (sexuality) or Boi (gender identity)? I think I'd prefer one with LGBT, as that covers both sexuality and gender identity aspects. Mdwh (talk) 11:55, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't remember how long ago the change was made, but since you're pointing it out, I agree. This subject as I understand is more about expressed or perceived gender than anything to do with sexual practice. Actually, I thought about it for a few minutes, and still can't think of a single way the term "boi" refers to sexual practices. How is this term "sexual" slang? --Kuzetsa (talk) 08:46, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title - sexual slang 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: "bois" just means wood in French. --94.217.191.110 (talk) 15:54, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  French 

message: Does anyone else not feel that 'boi' has far more general application than in LGBT subcultures? It seems like it's being used to refer humorously to all manner of males, and even dogs. I never see it being used in a gay context. 2607:FEA8:4D5F:FF82:D562:D331:1B64:F471 (talk) 11:43, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Same. This article needs to be changed or updated to the current standards. It was written over 10 years ago. 108.30.110.252 (talk) 19:14, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's the thing, if you can provide reliable sources that allow readers to verify that "boi" has wider use, then please use them to expand the article. However, this is made more complex because "boi" is different from "boy". When people say "here, boy" to their dogs, they are clearly not using the term "boi" which has a distinct and clear meaning. So be careful to make sure you are genuinely expanding this article, before you do so. Also, the article is in a constent state of revision, and was not "written over 10 years ago". It was last edited just a few days ago. Railfan23 (talk) 21:56, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Generalization 

message: I have heard that boi originates from slang used in black queer communities, but can't find a reliable source for this. A cursory search brings up this page, which discusses the origins of the term and links to several sources (which I haven't vetted yet). If we can find a reliable source for the term's black heritage, this should be acknowledged. Qzekrom 💬 theythem 19:14, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins in black queer slang 

message: If you're going to make a page for the word boi, you have to address its usage in meme culture. People are vandalizing this page because you've aggravated all the memesters of the internet. You're essentially pretending that the meme culture interpretation of the word doesn't exist. Either elaborate that the article is referring to LGBT usage specifically, amend this page by adding the meme culture interpretation, or delete this page. But as it stands now, it is simply unacceptable, and frankly, I expect better from a platform like Wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.89.61.2 (contribs) 17:23, 2019 July 26‎ (UTC)
:I couldn't agree more on this, I know this page isn't really active, but I think it should just be deleted. There is no confirmation that the term "bois" is only for usage of the gay community. Often times it refers to young men in general. Because there are many different interpretations of the term, either all meanings should be stated, instead of exclusively only the "gay" meaning, or be deleted as there is no real definition of the word.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by XanderDoesn'tMakeFilmsEver (talk • contribs) 16:42, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. "Boi" is a standard term now, and does not reflect its original LGBTQ meaning. The article should be updated to reflect that. 108.30.110.252 (talk) 15:23, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Arguments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Boi (slang), based on what the literature actually shows, conflict with what you are arguing. And the article now states in the lead that "The term has also been used as an alternate spelling for boy." and now has a "Usage in popular culture and meme culture" section. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 02:48, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Bruh

message: The difference between 'bois' and 'boy' is obvious in writing, but there is nothing in the article on the pronunciation of 'bois'. Is its pronunciation differentiated from 'boy', or is a listener expected to know which word is being used entirely from its context? Blurryman (talk) 21:49, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation? 

message: This article may benefit from consideration of treatment of it as a WP:Broad concept article. Mathglot (talk) 22:53, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broad concept article 

message: 66.220.245.67 (talk) 21:03, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. If you'd like to request that an article be deleted, see WP:XFD for more information. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 21:09, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 November 2020 

message: wait is the word boi associated with lgbt?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arsenal Pro 1975 (talk • contribs) 02:44, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Realization to me of what boi means 

message: typo: pronunication → pronunciation 82.132.185.94 (talk) 23:03, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: 💜  melecie  talk - 00:37, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 May 2022 

message: In the local area of Hereford this word is used frequently as in 'he's a good 'ol Herfurd(Hereford) boi'
Or such as greeting an old good friend, viz 'alright boi!'
Its use can be seen occasionally on Facebook by Herefordians !!
I am 77 years old 'born an bred Herfurd boi!!' and have used it since i can remember!! 185.245.188.9 (talk) 06:57, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of the word Boi 

message: Kittendreamx (talk) 18:47, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. JTP (talk • contribs) 22:38, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2024 

message: I removed this sentence which I'm preserving here because the citations would be useful:
"In some.... Increasing" struck me as both  and not necessarily true--certainly butch/masc/transmasc/etc identities have been around for a while, and who is "allowing" whom to identify etc. And I think the underlying thing of it being a gender expression related to butch/transmasc/androgyny/twink-ness gets addressed in the first sentence and in the body.
I also don't think the  citation works--it's mostly some guy talking (whinging, really haha) about a transmasc boi specifically, not that it's a term used by anyone. Femboi has some citations regarding "Boi"'s use in a cis-gay-male context, like this and this. Not sure exactly how to write that part myself though.
KenyonP (talk) 18:42, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed some things