Talk:The Longest Journey

message: I know that Dreamfall was criticized for it's simple puzzles, but i don't recall this one being criticized. I've played the game myself (obviously if I were to write all that story), and I can't say the puzzles are simple. True the puzzles were more logical than most other adventure games, and because of that a bit simpler. But I had still spent hours on end on just some puzzles, and ended up looking up a walkthrough on some. --Nerox 02:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is indeed a rather unfounded statement and I suggest that it is removed unless the contributor, Finduilas 09 (talk • contribs), finds some sources to support it ASAP. --Koveras ☭ 08:36, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Simple Puzzles?

message: In the first paragraph it says TLJ was criticized for it's extensive cast and amount of dialouge.  I don't remember hearing this anywhere, in fact, I had heard praise of that.  Is there a reference to this, or was someone just talking their opinion?
:I've seen this mentioned in quite a few on-line and magazine reviews of the game. It is also reflected in the user reviews on MobyGames.com. I'll try and find a definate instance to cite. Jay Firestorm 23:44, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticized for dialouge?

message: *Rewrote the article (the previous one read more like a review than a encyclopedia article) and added new information about the characters. --Antrophica
*I don't want to sound like all talk and no action, but, well, I'm suffering from laziness, and this article could use the expansion. --Antrophica 12:11, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: There's detailed info on all the characters...but virtually nothing about the story and plotline!  Burns flipper 07:34, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can summarize the entire story of TLJ, you are welcome to try. %) No offence, but I wouldn't dare it because the game is HUGE. --Koveras  10:06, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Wow, respect, Nerox! That's a lot of text to write at once. %) Do you mind me copyediting your contribs a bit later today or would you rather do it yourself? --Koveras ☭ 10:16, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Go ahead. I have already proof read it twice. And there's not much else i can really add or change--Nerox 10:33, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Story? 

message: I just removed the following as speculation from Lady Alvane:
"Possibly, Lady Alvane actually is April from the future who has found means to travel in time."
There is no mention of time travel in TLJ, other than Brian Westhouse getting trapped in a Shift for 300 years - which isn't actually time travel.  I propose to replace it with:
"There are hints throughout her dialogue that suggest she may be April as an old woman, recounting the tale of her adventure."
Thoughts?
Burns flipper 07:42, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I do not believe that Lady Alvane is April, since IMO it goes against the continuity of TLJ. But many of those who played the game consider this a serious possibility - may be they would like to comment your proposal. --Koveras  10:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Why do you think it goes against the continuity?  See Ragnar's thoughts here, and other gamer thoughts here. Burns flipper 11:25, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'd say I trust Tornquist on this topic. Therefore I'd just leave Lady Alvane out of speculations, since until he himself fulfils his promise and tells us just who on Earth she is. :) Until then, however, I'd mention the speculations but not deal with them explicitely in the article. Though a link to that TLJ-wiki article could be useful, too. --Koveras  15:02, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, good plan.  I've added in the details and the links. Burns flipper 07:32, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters section 

message: It is for sure that this game also exists on only two cd roms? My copy has the normal four. Garion96 (talk) 15:08, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My version has 4 cds. Tartan 15:28, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 2CD version has been released a couple of years after the 4CD one AFAIK. It contains an edition of the game that is better optimized for modern operating systems and hardware but the content is essentially the same. Some bugs are fixed, too. --Koveras  16:57, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems to be incredibly impossible to pack 4 CDs into 2 without loosing anything... I am very interested in what the differences are. Sb knows? (BTW: is there really a DVD version? I haven't seen that one) - m_gol 23:38, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know about a 2CD version, but I know that in the UK, Xplosiv  have released a 'budget' DVD version - I am playing it now. Unlike the 4CD version, it is XP compatible. 217.134.115.179 23:28, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a 2-CD version for sure. Check out the official store: https://funcom.asknet.com/cgi-bin/show/P13386 I don't know what's different though. Mamen 07:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  4 or 2 CD-ROMs 

message: longestjourney.com said in July 2002 that there had been sales of 450,000. Anyone got any more recent sales figures? Also, there's not many references... better watch out or some wikinazi will AFD it... --Amaccormack 13:45, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sales figures 

message: Looking through the screenshots at MobyGames, I noticed that the one labeled "Hope Street" looks like straight out of Blade Runner. If someone who has actually played the game can verify this, it might make an interesting addition to the trivia. Not having played the game myself, I didn't want to add it just based on one screenshot. -- 213.47.127.75 21:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Blade Runner reference?

message: The setting section is getting a bit out of hand. We might wanna consider moving its contents to corresponding Stark and Arcadia articles. --Koveras ☭ 12:49, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Setting section 

message: Misleading - adventure genre did not decline, more that there was significant mass-market growth in other genres. Edited accordingly! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Scarybot (talk • contribs) 15:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Decline of Adventure Genre 

message: I think this edit removed too much. For example most articles about fiction have a plot summary. --Lasttan 09:14, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. This is Wikipedia after all, so feel free to edit back in what you think should be there. :) As it stands though, the article was almost ridiculously unencyclopaedic. Thanks for the feedback though! The Great Unwashed 13:07, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I will restore the plot summary and I also think that the setting section should be restored, too. :) --Koveras ☭ 23:01, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I understand the need for a plot summary, but this plot summary clearly to me meets the categories for being overly long. It needs to be *seriously* trimmed down as it basically details every single thing the character does during the story. It is not a summary, it's an explicit plot in and of itself... It needs to either go (again, sorry) or be hacked away at with a giant editing knife. The Great Unwashed (talk) 04:08, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I would have trimmed it down but I'm currently working on several other pages, so I won't be of any help. :( --Koveras ☭ 09:27, 19 November 2007 (UTC)

text: My 2p is that the plot summary is far too long as it stands. I'd say 3-4 paragraphs would be about right; at the moment it has 18! People need to consider what that word "summary" means! 81.153.111.37 (talk) 03:03, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm, I thought we already agreed that trimming the summary is necessary. :) --Koveras ☭ 07:53, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed huge amounts on unencyclopaedic information, trivia and other frippery. Wikipedia is not a fan site 

message: Is he really in Dreamfall? I can't recall seeing him. Where is he?
Mamen (talk) 08:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think someone might have confused him with Marcus, who does have episodic roles in both The Longest Journey and Dreamfall. AFAIK Zack never appears nor is mentioned in the second game. --Koveras ☭ 13:07, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zack Lee 

message: I moved some info from the article lead to the synopsis and rewrote the critics paragraph to mirror what the reviews I found were saying. This was the original text:  If someone can find attributable sources for those claims, feel free to add it back in.
Also deleted some of the more blatant spoilers from the character descriptions. --Jopo (talk) 09:24, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyediting 

message: I added the appropriate tag, but this section needs some serious work. It is too long and detailed (which is against Wiki policy) and could probably be cut down by half. If someone more familiar with the game than I am could address this issue.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.190.34.219 (talk) 06:14, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, that's a serious issue here, not made any easier by the fact that TLJ easily has one of the longest storylines in a video game... Maybe if I had time, I would have written a briefer summary like I did for Dreamfall but alas, not at the moment. :( --Koveras ☭ 08:22, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Plot Summary section is too long and detailed. 

message: I'm wondering why the infobox says "Aspect ratio 4:3" but all the Scrennshots aren't.
:The screenshots are cropped, as far as I understand, removing the unused bars on top and bottom of the screen. However, although they are not used in the backgrounds, they are used to place interface elements, such as the inventory "button". Therefore, the game is in aspect ratio 4:3 but the backgrounds are closer to 16:9. --Koveras ☭ 19:15, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox 

message: This character list is almost entirely sourced to primary sources—it doesn't have enough coverage to warrant standing on its own. The characters are sufficiently covered in the related section of the main article. czar 14:58, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I see an issue with this in that the character list details events and characters from all three games released so far, so just merging all of it into the first game's article would cause confusion. --Koveras ☭ 15:30, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  In lieu of a series article, the idea is to redirect the list to this page and merge any content to the respective plot/character sections in each game's articles as appropriate. All in all, there aren't sources to support a dedicated, separate character list article. czar 18:12, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, the splitting has occurred to me as a possible solution, as well, but as the current maintainer of the Dreamfall Chapters article, I must honestly admit that the current contents of the corresponding section in the characters list would contribute little to that article. The character list goes into much detail that is better suited for a dedicated wiki, and I don't think preserving it at all costs would be worth the trouble. --Koveras ☭ 20:32, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fine by me czar 20:40, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[List of The Longest Journey characters]]