Talk:Thompson Twins

message: Sorry everyone, the copyright Nazis took down the amazing photos I uploaded. Starkin 11:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos Deleted

message: Tom Bailey link on the box on the right points to the wrong Tom Bailey
:Now sorted, thank you. Derek R Bullamore 19:00, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tom Bailey link

message: Anyone got any photos?
andreasegde 15:37, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos

message: Thanks, "VertigoXpress". I couldn´t remember his name... or I wasn´t sure.
andreasegde 20:54, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: John Hade

message: Also, has anybody read a book by a guy who was claiming to have been a member of the Thompson Twins?  I can't remember his name, but I do remember I was shocked when I found a listing for the book.  It was called "An 80s Biography" or something, and it was about him briefly being in the band for a couple of months.  I found it odd, since I have been interested in the band since 1983 and never heard anything about him.  It would be an interesting trivia item for inclusion here.
vertigoxpress 25 May 2006
Never heard of him.
Alex Burak (Point studio engineer) played drums with them for just one gig after Edge left, but maybe the person you mention played with them in their ´Bigger´ Thompson Twins phase.
Will look... 
Got it! Thomas Dolby. Solo artist, but played with Twins on "Set", but maybe live as well.
Pete Dodd mentioned a story about him and Dolby which I will put in.
andreasegde 11:46, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Thomas Dolby

message: OK I did some web searching and I found it.  The guy's name was Michael White, and he wrote a book called "Thompson Twin: An 80s Memoir".  If you do a search for his name and the title on Amazon.com it comes up.  The year in question is 1982, which would have been around the time of "Set", and it insinuates that White joined the Thompson Twins with his fiance, Jan.  Jan supposedly fell in love with the band's manager, which would have been John Hade.
vertigoxpress 26 May 2006
I am shocked by this. His book is called, "Thompson Twin - Michael White", (with a photo that makes him look very much like Tom Bailey...)
I have never heard about him at all.
He apparently went on to write lots of books about science, but I have the feeling that this one
is bogus/a scissor-&-paste job. I would love to read it though, albeit from a library...
Maybe he was a "hanger-on" in the ´bigger´ Twins, and his girlfriend fell in love with Hade, but to write a whole book about it? Hmmm... sounds like cashing-in, and revenge on his girlfriend.
Questions: Which instrument did he play? (He could only be a ´member´ if he did.)
I am looking for his homepage... the Cad...
andreasegde 18:25, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Michael White 

message: (I moved this here because you left it on the Lennon/Talk page. It would irritate some Lennon fans, God forbid... laugh...)
A regular Sherlock Holmes, aren't you !  Seriously, a great effort on the Michael White angle. If he was a Thompson Twin, I'm one of The Jackson Five.  I think Wikipedia would benefit generally from more detective work on the stories behind bands etc., rather than articles containing simple discographies etc.  As long as balance is achieved, and edits can be verified, of course.  Keep up the good work.
It's as easy as 1-2-3, As simple as do re mi, ABC, 1-2-3, Baby you and me girl. - Doh !?!
Derek R Bullamore 19:58, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Mr. White V Sherlock Holmes]] 

message: Sorry that I didn´t sign in and changed something. Sometimes I have the urge to change something, and I can´t see if I am logged-in or not.
It´s frustrating for me, as well the others, but I will try to amend my lazy behaviour, as well as my impetuous editing...
Have fun.
P.S.
Why does the typeface on the page suddenly seem larger than before? Am I going blind?...
andreasegde 16:32, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits 

message: Far too often throughout the article the band are called "The Thompson Twins". I'm not sure about their early days (though none of my 1980-82 releases have "The") but there is no "The" in the name. This seems to be a common mistake in other music literature, including Simon Reynolds' latest book.
You´re right, but they were called "The Thompson Twins", in the beginning, but maybe because of copyright problems it was shortened to Thompson Twins.
Here´s another problem: Tom Bailey referred/refers to them as the "Thompsons". Is that "The Thompsons", or the "Thompsons"? What do we do about that? (Laugh...)
I have tried to make the definite article (the) small, as in, the "Thompson Twins". Nobody would say, "I like Thompson Twins". I´ll go with the concensus, as they say...
andreasegde 19:31, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: Now that we have a nice 'foundation' article for the band, I think we should start beefing up the separate album pages. For example, Depeche Mode (among many others) have these pages, with review links, sleeve pictures, full track listings etc.
I already added album entries for the first two albums, plus "In the Name of Love".  I wasn't able, however, to add images to these.  Plus if anybody has additional information to add to the articles, like annotations to album reviews or anything like that, please edit the entries.
VertigoXpress 16:52, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Album pages 

message: What do I do about references that I have received from the people themselves? Is that original research? How do I put a note in to say that it was an e-mail and not from a book? help...andreasegde 09:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Basically, you can't. I'm afraid it would come under "original research" and you cannot quote information from a personal e-mail that you may have received as this is not verifiable. All info has to come from reliable and verifiable published sources. Kookoo Star 14:55, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  e-mail references 

message: do we really need to read about every bleep and fart theyve ever had? this article is way too complicated for a band that wasnt hugely succesfull.Curefreak 17:27, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bleeps and farts 

message: Source of their publishing terms was from Pete Dodd, and Rupert Merton (who was their publisher.) andreasegde 14:59, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Publishing contract

message: I've removed the claim that they sold 50 million records worldwide as this is both unverified and extremely unlikely (given their relatively short span of success). Also, there is no proof offered that "Into The Gap" outsold albums released at that time by Duran Duran, Culture Club or Eurythmics. Such information requires a reliable and unbiased source or it should be removed. Kookoo Star 03:06, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, Into The Gap did not outsell those other artists' albums. I dont have a figure for Eurythmics "Touch", but Duran's 7&The Ragged Tiger sold 12 Million and Colour By Numbers sold 16 million. It's a lot more than Into The Gap which stands at 5 million.MassassiUK 22:08, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Worldwide Sales 

message: What happened? --andreasegde 00:11, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos

message: There seems to be far too much irrelevant information on the page that it was starting to look like a fan-website. The page should really just state relevant facts and avoid trivia and opinions. The section about before the band were successful was overkill. It's enough to mention that they were originally a seven piece and to mention their first couple of albums, but to write so much detail about that era is pointless and unencyclopedic. The page has to be easy to read, not bogged down with useless information. Save that level of detail for the fan websites, please. 79.65.88.110 09:18, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  Good work on the article. -- Lyverbe 11:22, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, you're absolutely right - there was far too much superfluous info on the page which made it extremely dull to read. The era before "Quick Step" should really be nothing more than a brief paragraph with a couple of extra sentences about "In The Name Of Love" since it was their first hit of any kind. The largest part of the article should be about the 1983-85 era, and then perhaps a paragraph or two to say what they did after that era. As it stands right now, the article could still do with quite a lot of editing as there is still too much crap on it that just isn't relevant to a Wiki article. And yes, trivia and opinions (such as saying the Into The Gap material was "more mature" - which is a bit ridiculous really) should be avoided at all costs.MassassiUK 05:27, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

text: It is irrelevant whether this is a paper encyclopedia or not, and it violates Wiki policy to state masses of pointless information that unnecessarily clutters up the article. Wiki articles are meant to be concise and readable, not exhaustive and crammed full with every useless factoid that fans can lay their hands on. That level of detail is for fan sites. With regards to the Thompson Twins, copious amounts of information about their early years is pointless because they were not notable during that time. It is certainly excessive to point out they stole electricity whilst they were squatting in a house. That level of detail is fine for a fan site, but not for Wiki. It is really enough to mention where and when they formed, the names of the original band members and the level of success (or lack thereof) that they had at that time, which should lead nicely into the classic "trio" era. 79.66.56.11 (talk) 04:14, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would imagine that MOST successful pop stars start off with little money before they make it rich. It is NOT notable information, or even interesting for that matter, and is surplus to the requirements of the article. 79.66.125.166 (talk) 00:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I have no idea what point you are trying to make here. I should point out that I'm British by the way, not American.79.66.125.166 (talk) 00:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Page Overhaul

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replies: text: I will never understand these Wikipedia image rules.  Whatever you put, it will never be allowed.  I could put a hand drawing of stick figures of Alannah, Tom and Joe, and Wikipedia would still complain. -- Lyverbe (talk) 12:28, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you uploaded it to Wikipedia Commons it would be allowed, as it would be your own work. --andreasegde (talk) 20:11, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Thompsons into the gap.jpg

message: Wasn't "Quick Step and Side Kick" only called "Side Kick" in North America?  This clarification has been removed from the article, but I think it should remain there to not confuse someone looking for the album "Quick step and Side Kick" and can't find it. -- Lyverbe (talk) 15:39, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: To quick step or not quick step

message: The link to the British Phonographic Industry website was removed, despite the fact this is the official website of the organisation who certify platinum, gold and silver records in the UK. The problem is, because the way their website works, Wiki editors cannot list a precise page for the Thompson Twins certifications because it is in database form. To access the information, you need to open the BPI website and click on STATISTICS, then CERTIFIED AWARDS, and then type in "Thompson Twins" in the ARTIST field. It will then bring up a full list of certifications for that artist. As this is the ONLY official source for UK certifications, please do not remove it. 79.66.0.236 (talk) 15:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless it's a reference to an official site, you cannot just put the root of a website as a reference.  By doing this, it's spamming, and it's not accepted in Wikipedia.  There's a saying that goes something like "While you say it can't be done, don't bother the one who's doing it"; I changed the refs to direct links to make them acceptable by Wikipedia standards. -- Lyverbe (talk) 00:45, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Link to BPI website

message: Are they not the ones that worked on Traci Lord's 1000 Fires, or is that the Stephen Parson's band Babel as seen in Howling II? (or someone else entirely)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joseph S Atkinson (talk • contribs) 03:24, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Traci Lords 

message: Good point on the last change.  Shouldn't the same be done about Babble?  Yes, it was still Tom and Alannah, but it was not Thompson Twins material. -- Lyverbe (talk) 14:43, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's borderline with Babble because it really was the Twins under another name. As long as it doesn't take up too much space in the article, I think its fairly harmless. Do other editors have an opinion? 80.47.220.60 (talk) 00:05, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  International Observer albums:  not the Thompson Twins 

message: "Critical Response" section featured only negative assessments.
Any chance someone with more knowledge than I could integrate + & - criticism into one section?
68.89.137.97 (talk) 10:42, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A response is a response.  No need to specify "Negative" or "Positive". -- Lyverbe (talk) 10:44, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Negative Critical response 

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message: This statement is just downright confusing: "Initially a new wave group, they switched to a more mainstream pop sound and achieved considerable popularity in the mid-1980s, scoring a string of hits in the United Kingdom, the United States, and around the globe." I don't think I know anybody who would say their 1980s hits and style weren't new wave. The above sentence makes it sounds like they were no longer a new wave band when they had those popular hits. Centerone (talk) 07:17, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: True and editors are changing the style of music often.  It seems we're having a hard time defining it.  Perhaps we could agree on a style here and keep it locked or simply say generally they were a pop band. Lyverbe (talk) 22:01, 18 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Wave?