Talk:Türkmenbaşy, Turkmenistan

message: This might be a dumb question, but how can Turkmenbashi be a sea link to Europe? The Caspian Sea doesn't connect to Europe via the sea as far as I know?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.94.135.59 (talk) 06:11, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Some parts of European Russia and Kazakhstan border the Caspian Sea.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmpfu89 (talk • contribs) 01:38, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

text: As our Europe article says, the eastern margin of Europe is somewhat hazily defined, depending on which geographical criterion is used.  Depending on which criterion you use, the caucasus can be considered both part of asia and europe, so by that definition a sea link to Baku would count as a sea link to Europe.  Additionally, the Volga and the various canals connected to it undoubtedly connect the caspian to europe by water (although not really by sea). -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 01:49, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

text: The countries of Central Asia are called "landlocked", because they have no direct border with the world ocean by sea, without passing via the territory of another country.  But boats on the Caspian Sea can indeed reach Europe, as follows: from the northwestern Caspian Sea port of Astrakhan in the southern part Russia upstream on the river Volga, then via the locks to the Volga-Don canal arriving in the river Don, then downstream to the end of Don river in the Sea of Azov and the Russian Black Sea, crossing the Black Sea to Turkey, and via the Bosporus river passing the city of Istanbul finally to the Mediterranean Sea and via Gibraltar to the Atlantic Ocean. Turkmenbashi is not the only port of the whole Central Asia region; from all ports on the Caspian Sea (not only Turkmenbashi, but also Aqtau or Atyrau in Kazakhsdtan) a ship can reach the European sea ports.  --Alexandersam (talk) 11:15, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
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message: Current title Türkmenbaşy (also spelled Turkmenbashi) conflicts with WP conventions, which stipulates a title of the article in English and gives a native name or spelling in parentheses: Turkmenbashi (also spelled Türkmenbaşy).
Examples: Venice , Moscow , etc.:
 
Venice ( , Venetian: Venesia; in honour of goddess Venus) 
Moscow ( in British English or  in American English; ; see also other names) Barefact (talk) 03:45, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title needs correction 

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thread_title:  Commons files used on this page or its Wikidata item have been nominated for deletion 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: (non-admin closure) MOVED clear consensus that the out-of-process move by Hyperx1000 must be reverted.  User:力 (power~enwiki, π, ν) 03:11, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Krasnovodsk →  – official name of city dudhhrContribs 17:23, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

text: No-brainer. It was moved without discussion. I'll do it in a day if there is no objection. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 21:00, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

text: *Please provide some reliable sources making this assertion. Certainly, the article in Türkmen Wikipedia calls it tk:Türkmenbaşy; the CIA World Factbook calls it that; other encyclopedias call it that. I can understand the desire not to have a city named after a dictator, but that does seem to be the city's current name. The article needs to be rolled back to the version of August 22 prior to your unilateral actions. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 00:43, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

text: The article does not need to be rolled back to the version you mentioned. Even if it is a widely used name, the correct name should be used, which is Krasnovodsk. Hyperx1000 (talk) 02:59, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

text: *The article's equivalents in other languages need to be corrected to match this version. --Hyperx1000 (talk) 20:04, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

text: *You can add other names without changing the primary name. --Hyperx1000 (talk) 20:04, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

text: *Google Maps is incorrect, but Apple Maps uses the correct name of the city. --Hyperx1000 (talk) 20:04, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

text: *: According to which Wikipedia guideline is that “correct”? —Michael Z. 20:42, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: *I am not referring to the guidelines of Wikipedia, I am referring to the name used on maps that include the city. --Hyperx1000 (talk) 20:58, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: *: As I mentioned, different maps use different names. Above, you referred to “correct maps”; how did you determine which are correct, unless it was WP:ILIKEIT? Anyway, I suggest your arguments refer to Wikipedia naming guidelines, or they carry little weight. 21:10, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: * I mean the official (and most likely also common) name of the city when I say "correct". --Hyperx1000 (talk) 21:32, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

text: *The proposed name is not more commonly used. The few references there are to the city use that name because they are either confusing it with other cities of the same name, or just completely incorrect. Krasnovodsk is not a widely known location. --Hyperx1000 (talk) 20:04, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

text: *: Would editors arguing “more common” please provide their evidence? Thanks. —Michael Z. 20:44, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: * Are you in support or in opposition to the edit? --Hyperx1000 (talk) 21:00, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: * Does it matter? —Twice Nothing (talk) 23:49, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

text: *Please provide a valid reason to support the edit. --Hyperx1000 (talk) 21:30, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The article in Türkmen Wikipedia calls it Türkmenbaşy. That's it. Scheridon (talk) 13:49, 4 September 2021 (UTC)

text: *Agreed. These will all be rolled back at the same time. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆𝄐𝄇 04:52, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 2 September 2021 

message: This type of poll for a disruptive edit also appeared at the talk page for the city’s airport. It was closed and this one should be too. The current name of the article is the more widely known name, and you cannot change the facts.— Preceding unsigned comment added by  user:Hyperx1000 (talk • contribs) 
: the RM on the airport was caused by a disruptive IP, not me. They copied it from here, including my signature. dudhhrContribs 14:58, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: fix ping dudhhrContribs 14:59, 4 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop the proposed edit