Talk:Kirata

message: The article Kiratas covers the same topic. 212.27.237.154 09:01, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

message: The article has been restored because the Kirata group encompasses much more than the ethnic groups from Nepal.  Chaipau 21:01, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then edit Kirant to give a more complete view.  There is also the article Kirata Kingdom.  We certainly don't need three articles.  This one, currently, repeats verbatim content that is at Kirant.  Wareh 22:26, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Kirant is longer, but that does not mean it is more complete.  Kirant is a subgroup of Kirata, and therefore can never be "more complete".  Kirata should stand restored.  Chaipau 13:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Restored

message: Note:  Project Banner with Tripura workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article falls under :Category:Tripura or its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate , please undo my changes and update/remove the relavent categories to the article -- Amartyabag  TALK2ME 11:07, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the subcategory addition is inappropriate as I don not see any strong connection of Tripura with Kirat. Dhilung (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 19:02, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:INDIA]] Banner/Tripura Addition 

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message: * Support - This does look like a WP:FORK. However this article is 2006, the other is 2004, the merge should probably go the other way In ictu oculi (talk) 12:10, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as these articles are clearly delineated in the Kirat (disambiguation) and ledes/hatnotes there isn't a problem in keeping separate articles. The problem now is partly articles not knowing what they are. The name "Kirata" appears to fail WP:PRECISION, maybe Kirata (Mahabharata) would be a better title? In terms of the Kirat people has there never been a Kirat kingdom? In ictu oculi (talk) 04:14, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge tag

message: Apropos , I think Kirata Kingdom and Kirata are better merge candidates.  Even so, I have reservations on "Kirata kingdom", because it supposes a single political formation, whereas there could be many Kirata kingdoms.  Furthermore, "kirata" is often used as an ethnic group (e.g, Bhagadatta had an army of Kirata and Cinas), and not as a political formation.  So I am not sure how even "Kirata kingdoms" would be appropriate. Chaipau (talk) 10:40, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as these articles are clearly delineated in the Kirat (disambiguation) and ledes/hatnotes there isn't a problem in keeping separate articles. The problem now is partly articles not knowing what they are. The name "Kirata" appears to fail WP:PRECISION, maybe Kirata (Mahabharata) would be a better title? In terms of the Kirat people has there never been a Kirat kingdom? In ictu oculi (talk) 04:14, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Really? how can you prove your traditions are older then the peroid of vedic civilisation when your kirat history it's self feeds from vedic hindu scriptures to gain it's very NAME,LOCATION,DESCRIPTION,KINGS?
Gopalas and Abhiras inhabiting the Kathmandu valley before kirats came and were subsequently supplanted by Kirata tribes, Many historians find it hard to trace these other tribes back in history due to traditional vedic cremation.
According to Baburam Acharya, they came to Nepal in 700 B.C. and ruled over it. There were 29 kings of this dynasty who ruled over Nepal for about 1225 years. According to the chronicle (Bamsavali) of Kirkpatrick, Kiratas ruled over Nepal from about 900 B.C. to 300 A.D. On the basis of the Puranas and other ancient religious texts, it is presumed that the Kiratas ruled in Nepal AFTER the Gopal and Mahipal.
In short the vedic text are stating that kirats are immagrants from cina tribes who came into nepal via the fall of Gopal and Mahipal kingdoms. China today does the same thing by grabbing land and claiming it as their own.82.38.160.153 (talk) 07:35, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Mundhum covers many aspects of the Kirat culture, customs and traditions that existed before Vedic civilisation in South Asia?