Talk:Ecstasy (emotion)

message: There is an article in wikipedia on religious ecstasy, the reference to which is given at the beginning of this article.
if there is no objection in 15 days, I'll move the reference to shamans, Buddhism and Christianity to that page.
:Your proposition seems reasonable, but then there won't be much left on this page.  Someone familiar with the subject needs to add examples of non-religious ecstasy. BrainyBroad 23:06, September 6, 2005 (UTC)
:Above portions moved.  September 17, 2005
"Examples of non-religious ecstasy" can be triggered by beauty of nature or art, by all creative activities, sports, music, sex, drugs... A movement called "scientific pantheism" recommends meditation-like methods for achieving ecstatic states which they interpret as "experiences of unity between self and cosmos, between mind and body, between consciousness and matter" . They involve no supernaturalia in explaining those experiences.
Sometimes a similar experience can just happen without any special circumstances, efforts or methods. In these cases people interpret it afterwards according to their culture and beliefs (eg. as a revelation from God, a trip to world of spirits or a psychotic episode).
Unfortunately I have found no good descriptions, "diagnostic criteria", theories etc. about ecstasy from the viewpoint of contemporary psychology and medicine. If they exist, they should be summarized in the article. --Hele 7 12:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference to religions and shamans. 

message: If some more experienced Wiki editor finds some useful information from this discussion page or elsewhere, please include it into article in proper form. If nobody reacts before 31 Aug. 2006, a wiki newbie with English as her third language will try to do this. --Hele 7 14:03, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions 1.Sept.2006 

message: I am not currently in mood to solve this, so, for future reference:
* Ecstasy (1933 movie) - these two should be merged and named (film) according to policy
* Ecstasy (movie)
* Ecstasis - is it something different?
* Technical Ecstasy maybe?
* Ecstasy (scratch)
If disambiguation page will be made, the link to it should also be updated at Ecstasy (drug). Samohyl Jan 22:12, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  other pages to be referenced from there 

message: Thanks to recent contributors. I tried to combine previous versions and quotes from M.Laski. Also I moved here the following paragraph from the previous version:
:"It is used in philosophy usually to mean outside-of-itself. One's consiousness, for example, is not self-enclosed, one can be conscious of others that conceptually fall well outside of one's self-consciouness. In a sense, consciousness is usually, "outside of itself," in that its object is not itself. Another example this use is, that one can be "outside of oneself" in the sense that one is deeply focused on the past or future (ie, outside of the present)."
The reason to move it here for a while: this particular meaning of the word is not widely used (as seen from Google search) and it is different from other contributions to the article. If such usage of the term "ecstasy" in philosophy is an established practice, then it does not belong to "Ecstasy (emotion)" and needs a separate link from disambiguation page. Please continue working on the article. Hele 7 18:56, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Previous versions combined with a reference. A separate meaning moved here for a while. 

message: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ekstase - thanks for the link.
It seems to have some interesting material for including here, unfortunately my German is too poor to translate it and the babelfish gives nonsense. Could somebody help? Hele 7 17:38, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  German version - could somebody translate? 

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About category - yes, ecstasy is different from most emotions (maybe "a state of consciousness?"), but the category "religion" is certainly not better for it. It feels like categorizing "thinking" under "crossword". Hele 7 01:51, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing citations 

message: I don't believe it. Yes, it's a mental state. An emotion? Is an orgasm an emotion?  Is hunger an emotion? Is nausea an emotion? Whose got some citations? I'm going to propose that it be moved to a different name and removed from the "emotion" catagory. DCDuring 01:07, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's that darn Emotion footer. (There is also one that goes along the side that has a somewhat different selection.) Anyone can stick it on a page and add their "emotion" to it. --Mattisse 01:38, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at the comments under Ratings above. The rater agrees with you. --Mattisse 01:40, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I removed the "emotions" sidebar which at least in Mozilla obstructed text too badly. Probably this article should be merged with article Religious ecstasy under name "Ecstasy (state of mind)" or something alike. Hele 7 17:20, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who says that ecstasy is an emotion ? 

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