Talk:Mount Kailash

message: Why should the mountains in Category:Mountains of Tibet not be considered mountains of Tibet? Everest is on the border between Nepal and Tibet, so it's Tibet's highest mountain, so Kailash isn't Tibet's highest mountain. I don't see any ambiguity here. Kosebamse 18:16, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I've rewritten the intro to clarify the situation. I've also withdrawn my objection on :Category:Mountains of Tibet. —Lowellian (talk) 21:29, Dec 7, 2004 (UTC)
The intro looks fine now. Thanks for your help. Kosebamse 21:52, 7 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Tallest mountain in Tibet?

message: I have noted under the subtitle Buddhism in the article that there is some confusion regarding the identity of the "Champion of Tantric Buddhism".  Although I think Padmasambhava is likely to be the person to which the contributor is refering, the accuracy of the passage in general may require checking. 83.100.165.35 19:38, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:TG PartTwo.jpg

message: It seems that people definitely climb this mountain. See, for example, http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock/151369/Kailash.html or http://www.summitpost.org/view_object.php?object_id=151369
:There have been no verified ascents of the mountain. The website you mention,  http://www.summitpost.org/mountain/rock/151369/Kailash.html#chapter_10 explicitly refutes rumours that the mountain has been climbed. BabelStone (talk) 18:49, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccuracies about Climbing the Mountain 

message: The Sanskrit name is spelled with the letter श ś. In a Hindi context the spelling with स s has also been of frequent occurrence. 
The Oxford Hindi Dictionary (I have the 1997 printing) gives कैलास as the main entry, while कैलाश is cross-referenced to it as a "pronunciation variant." So Oxford seems to be citing कैलास as the standard form in Hindi. 
The Hindi Vikipīḍiyā article on this mountain uses only the spelling with श. The Hindi editors there have chosen to make no mention of the spelling कैलास for the mountain. In other words, it looks like the tadbhava form has been completely replaced by the tatsama form here. Is this a sign of a movement toward increased Sanskritization of Hindi? This article not only implicitly makes कैलाश the standard form, it ignores the other form altogether, which Oxford gave as standard Hindi.
So my questions are: How do they decide when to use which form of the name? Do you think the English and Hindi Wikipedias should mention the tadbhava form too (if only to note that it is also commonly met with)? I mean, as a foreign student of Sanskrit and Hindi, I always got confused about which spelling is actually preferred. Maybe a little clarification would be helpful to foreigners studying this subject. Thank you. Johanna-Hypatia (talk) 00:23, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This article has been propagating the most brazen falsehoods. The Sanskrit term is कैलास; there's no कैलाश in Sanskrit as has been so confidently asserted in the article. I'm fixing it. Shreevatsa (talk) 08:50, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  See why this gets confusing? I wish there were a reliable source that could sort out just what is what. Why are there two spellings? I think the article ought to clarify this point, if anyone knows the answer. Johanna-Hypatia (talk) 04:39, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems that Sanskrit "s" sometimes becomes "ś" in Hindi. Thus "Kausalyā" -> "Kauśalyā", "Kailāsa" -> "Kailāś", "Dhanus" -> "Dhanuś" etc.  Kannan91 (talk) 12:19, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it only goes the other way around. Sanskrit ś > Hindi s. Johanna-Hypatia (talk) 22:04, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe that's the usual rule, but it's reversed for these instances at least. If you look up those words (see Monier Williams) , you'll find that the version with a normal "s" is the original Sanskrit. This is also reflected in how these words have been borrowed from Sanskrit into other languages - eg. Malayalam, which has a "ś" for "śiva" "śakti" etc, but a "s" for "Kailāsa", "Dhanus", "Kausalyā". Kannan91 (talk) 12:57, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I see. Thank you for the information. So anyway we still don't seem to have gotten any closer to an answer to this question. I feel that somewhere someone must have studied this and published a good explanation of it. Just got to keep looking for it. Johanna-Hypatia (talk) 18:40, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: श or स?

message: I've removed the passage saying that Colin Thubron attempted to climb the mountain between the wars because there was no reference given for this claim. Perhaps he did, but we need a reference. Ericoides (talk) 09:18, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thubron attempts 

message: Substituted at 00:31, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Lead paragraphs are meant to display scripts of the location in which a subject is found. Kailash is in the Tibet Autonomous Region of China, though several months ago, the Chinese/Tibetan names were removed and replaced with Sanskrit - a language not officially in use in the TAR. Of course, there is a major Hindu/Jain connection to this mountain, and so the Sanskrit is rightfully listed in the Etymology section, but keep in mind this mountain is in China's TAR, and so Chinese and Tibetan must be used. The addition of Sanskrit to the lead, again, is not justified because this isn't a subject exclusive to Hinduism, such as pages written about Hindu gods that list Sanskrit in the lead paragraph. This is a mountain in a region of China - and that is the primary topic of the page. Willard84 (talk) 00:28, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I think what you did here is fine, and I agree with your reasoning. The Hindu/Jain connection is not denied, but this is a geographical article not a religious one. There's no problem with mentions of the religious connections in the article body, given appropriate weight, but the lead is, imo, correct as you have it now in this regard. -- Begoon 02:01, 2 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scripts 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used in this page has been nominated for speedy deletion 

message: The article includes a quotation that spells the mountain "Mount Kailas". This is correct, an alternate orthography of the Sanskrt name, omitting only a diacritical mark over the "s" that indicates one of the Sanskrt pronunciations of "sh", since the source article is in English. See also the section "श or स?" above. David Spector (talk) 02:50, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: mount Kaylas in Russia  176.65.96.155 (talk) 06:55, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Mount Kailas" 

message: Mount Kailash is a residence of our God Shiva/Mahadev. The Indian deities/saints have been visiting it since thousands of years. Hence, it belongs to India. Kindly update the country as INDIA. 
THANK YOU Advocate Sonal Singh (talk) 15:28, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:43, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mount Kailash is a residence of our God Shiva/Mahadev 

message: The translation into traditional Chinese characters is wrong. Someone in a cut-and-paste hurry added a character (equal sign) that is also the Chinese number two. That added character should be removed.
(Tibetan: གངས་རིན་པོ་ཆེ་; simplified Chinese: 冈仁波齐峰; traditional Chinese: =岡仁波齊峰). This is wrong.
(Tibetan: གངས་རིན་པོ་ཆེ་; simplified Chinese: 冈仁波齐峰; traditional Chinese: 岡仁波齊峰). This is right. 2601:446:480:4E60:A42C:A24D:E5D1:29F4 (talk) 13:09, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Done CaradhrasAiguo (leave language) 14:07, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 August 2020 

message: Is the Pilgrimage section completely unsourced or merely missing inline references? Looks encyclopedic enough, but the lack of citations is disturbing. 202.8.114.133 (talk) 13:00, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Mount Meru  176.65.96.155 (talk) 06:57, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  References for Pilgrimage section 

message: Intend to provide verifiable references wherever needed and adding the content to article Anand2202 (talk) 18:13, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing in response to {{refimprove}} banner of Feb 2022 

message: I just need to remove a reference that is wrongly placed here. Planetinformatics.inc (talk) 05:51, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. MadGuy7023 (talk) 06:00, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 26 August 2022 

message: Some one asked for citation needed for siva's son karthikeya's living in Kailasa. This is a ridiculous question as there are many thousands of hindu scripts say that Karthikeya is the son of Siva and Parvathi and they reside in Kailasa. One can quote scanda purana for many citations. Please remove the quote Deepakchinta (talk) 04:42, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The fact that potentially thousands of sources exist to support a claim is not sufficient reason to remove a  template. You are free to create a new edit request and provide a reliable source so that we may replace the template with one. —Sirdog (talk) 05:36, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 18 November 2022 

message: Exactly what are the Wiki scientific sources for the climate change statements made about Mt. Kailash? Rminusa (talk) 22:56, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Rminusa, the climate change section carries inline citations. You can go through them.  Apandeyhp89 (talk) 13:50, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate Change Claims for Mount Kailash 

message: Please add the following text about the Panch Kailasha or five kailasha, ideally in the lede. 
 It is the most important peak among the group of five separate peaks in Himalayas in separate locations collectively known as the Panch Kailash or "Five Kailashas", other being Adi Kailash in  second, Shikhar Kailash in third, Kinnaur Kailash in fouth and Manimahesh Kailash in fifth place in terms of importance.Adi Kailash: पंच कैलाशों में दूसरा प्रमुख धाम है "आदि कैलाश", शिव-पार्वती के इस धाम का 1990 में हुआ था सर्वे, Amarujala, 11 October 2023. Thank you. 111.223.76.187 (talk) 12:07, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: It's not clear what it means with "important", it does not sound neutral and puffery is discouraged on wikipedia. WanderingMorpheme 02:19, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 12 October 2023 

message: In the preceding edit suggested by me please wikilink/pipe the Shikhar Kailash to "Shrikhand Mahadev. 111.223.76.187 (talk) 13:05, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pipe Shikhar Kailash to Shrikhand Mahadev 

message: I am a topographic researcher. Mount Kailash on my list of wrong elevations on my site at http://viewfinderpanoramas.org/elevmisquotes.html#kailash and I have complete confidence in my claim that my Chinese mapping source, which is based on official mapping by the Chinese military, is correct. The kind of sites that cited in support of 6714 metres are not topographic sites, and many of their heights are based on old, inaccurate and unreliable estimates that have been copied down. Many of these kind of sites still claim that Ulugh Muztagh is 7723 metres high. I have checked the Chinese heights against data derived from high resolution images from U.S. satellite data, and these data are clearly consistent with 6638 metres. I am willing to debate the issue but if there are no objections I will restore the elevation to 6638 metres. Viewfinder (talk) 15:41, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elevation 

message: By listing this mountain as a part of China, this recognizes the illegal occupation of tibat, the very least, it should be noted that the mountain is in disputed territory. 160.2.226.42 (talk) 21:32, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listing this mountain as part of china 

message: This article talks about pilgrims from china, inda, and, Nepal, but doesn't mention any from Tibet 160.2.226.42 (talk) 21:36, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mention of Pilgrims