Talk:Xbox 360/Archive 10

message: This should be added to the table because the PS3 in opposite supports Version 1.3 and there are some major differences between these two versions. I'm not realy sure but I think that this means that there is no copy protection support for use with de HD drive which may render it useless in the future. It seems to me that you can get this way of HDMI support for the other versions by simply using an adapter cable.
:This page is semiprotected; any username more than a few days old can edit it. There is no need for administrator assistance to edit this page. — Carl (CBM · talk) 14:59, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Elite only has HDMI 1.2 

message: The software section of the article needs to be updated, because the update was released today, I think.  I will post that info if it has. SniperWolf1564 16:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spring Update Released today?

message: Wii & PS3 have one, why not the 360 ? The 360 has received enough praise and criticism to be mentioned in the article.
--69.158.168.31 22:03, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This keeps coming up, and the response is always the same: If you want to write it yourself, go right ahead. So long as it's arranged neutrally (as in, the quotes themselves would obviously be opinions, but you shouldn't scour for only positive or only negative reviews) properly-sourced, and uses reliable, verifiable, and notable sources. But the only reason there isn't currently such a section is that, at least as far as what I've seen is concerned, no legitimate attempt has been made to add one. Bladestorm 13:53, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception category needed 

message: Why is the price for Brazil so far away from the rest. Using xe.com, I was given a number over 1 000€. That's more than double most other places. Why so high? Microsoft must have some justification, anyone know what it is? - Рэдхот(t • c • e) 19:01, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi, first remeber Wikipedia is not a forum but as a brazilian I can fast answer this: tax and import tariff are very high and grab 80% of the product cost since the console is fully legally imported. The internal market also with heavily taxes push the final price to unbelievable U$1500. I will not enter and economy discussion but this is one of the major reasons that breaks brazilian economy and turn it very inneficient compared with China and India. But this is not the unique way to get 360 in Brazil: you can do this buying illegally imported consoles in auction sites - at this case illegal 360 will cost around U$700~800. For comparisson an illegal PS2 needs U$ 400 bucks to arrive at your house here. --Ciao 90 22:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brazil price. 

message: There's no european or UK sales figures in the article? Does anyone have the latest figures? I suck at the Google. 70.104.16.217 04:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: european sales

message: The sentence about the "Screen of Death" here makes no sense in the context of the paragraph. It is already mentioned here Should someone remove the first one??J.delanoy 00:42, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: unecessary statement

message: http://www.engadget.com/2007/03/20/xbox-360-elite-new-black-limited-edition-xbox-with-hdmi-and-120gb-drive/
Check it out there. I tried to edit the Zephyr section to be more accurate. But I'm no good at large-editing like that, lol, and those little number referencing thingies. If someone can clean it up for me that would be great. Seriphyn 19:25, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  *** It's finally official you fan boys ***, and now Wikipedia is out of date.  You should have just updated it, here is the official press release from the website.  Pumapayam 04:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah wait the official statement or announce by MS. --Ciao 90 21:49, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xbox 360 Elite! 

message: The Canadian price for the Elite SKU is $549.99.
Link= http://www.thegate.ca/front-page/034/xbox-360-elite-revealed/ —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.12.5.241 (talk) 15:28, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Price of Elite in Canada 

message: I am very happy with this article; it's well written, factual and up-to-date. Plus, the problems with WP:NPOV have been fixed since the de-listing. There are, however, two small problems that need addressing before I am willing to pass this article, so I am placing the nomination on hold until they are fixed:
# Image needs fair-use rationale: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Xbox360elite.jpg
# I think a reference or two is needed for the 'Suggested retail price by region' table.
Fix these, and the article is on it's way to GA. I'll be watching the page, so once it's been updated, I'll know. Smomo 16:49, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Still some references needed but good work so far. Smomo 17:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Some other changes that should be made (especially if you want it to ever be a Featured Article:
#Change the release dates in the infobox to the words used in most game articles (see Wii for an example).
#Move the large release section to the Xbox 360 launch page. TJ Spyke 07:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Little progress has been made with these problems since this article was nominated so I am failing it for GA. Smomo 22:11, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Article Nomination 

message: Some flaws of the Xbox 360 is that the controllers, can dent even if it doesn't drop hard. Another mistake is that when you move the system while a game is playing, it will make a perfect circle on the game/DVD.  gameplaya 3:13 1 April 2007
:: I have not seen nor heard any evidence that suggests the Controllers dent easily when dropped. If you would like to provide some, please do. As for the disk scatching, it already has a section . Its quite well documented i believe. RC Master 15:43, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Xbox 360's manual clearly says do not moving the 360 while the 360 is turned on. Also, if you're clumsy enough to drop your controllers, buy Controller Skins to protect the controller. None of what you mentioned are flaws in the 360's design or the 360 itself.--Can Not 14:43, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  DVD Drive flaw in this article:  VTNC 00:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The 360 controller does NOT dent easily. Just dismiss him/her UnrivaledShogun Date: Some day in early July 2007
Microsoft have started a programme where they allow you to send in your old scrathed disks and they will replace it with a fresh one. 
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/support/systemuse/xbox360/gameplay/discreplacement-program.htm
The following game titles are currently available for this program:
Crackdown™, Fuzion Frenzy 2, Gears Of War®, Halo® 2, Kameo™: Elements of Power™, Ninety Nine Nights™, Perfect Dark Zero™, Project Gotham Racing® 3, Viva Piñata™, Xbox Live® Arcade Unplugged Vol. 1 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kevgallacher (talk • contribs) 18:17, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

text:  Replacing damaged game cartridges and scratched discs has, and is the responsibility of the game PUBLISHER.  Not the maker of the console.  This policy is inline with well established modes of operation in console gaming.  Wageslave 13:05, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  360 Flaws. 

message: In Japan, Retail configurations is following.
* Headset - Only included in Launch version of Premium System.
* Media Remote - Seems be included all Premium system, not only Launch version but also Later version. (I have MFR-Date "2006-11-29", it contains Media Remote)
* Cables - Premium System includes "D-Terminal HD Cable", which have also composit output so it doesn't contain "Composite Cable". Core System includes "Composite Cable".
* Month of Xbox Live Gold - Not contain Subscription Code for Month of Xbox Live Gold, but applied to GamerTag newly created in Xbox 360 console automatically.
--ja:PiaCarrot 13:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retail configurations Difference 

message: Maybe some information about the upcoming update could be added :
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2007/0408-im.htm
It adds support for things like the live messanger and MPEG 4 Part-2 video streaming.
Sorry if I haven't done this right, my first time ever posting anything on wikipedia.
If I've done anything wrong please let me know, thanks.
60.234.223.209 07:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Upcoming May 7, 2007 Dashboard Update 

message: The article doesn't mention the free60 project, a project with the goal (recently acheived) of porting GNU/Linux and other free software operating systems to the xbox 360. At the very least this should be included in external links. Variant 14:47, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have some links to confirm that? I'm sure someone would add them to the relevent place if some links were provided RC Master 11:24, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free60 

message: There is a keyboard attachment for the controller to be released (when?) - see http://www.slashgear.com/action-shots-of-the-xbox-360-keyboard-attachment-104704.php or search for "xbox 360 keyboard". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.102.17.13 (talk) 18:10, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a link with more info from the official xbox.com site :http://www.xbox.com/en-US/community/news/2007/0408-im.htmDnzperson 23:41, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: QWERTY text-input device (keyboard)

message: Is XBox 360 DirectX 10 compatible? --202.40.137.202 04:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This has nothing to do with the aritcle. MastrCake 06:43, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, it is not :http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3153097Or check out Wiki's own page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX#DirectX_10_and_9.0LDnzperson 04:02, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  DX 10 

message: 1.  Is the Xbox 360 HD DVD Player compatible with 360 Elite?
2.  Is the Xbox Fishing Rod Controller compatible with Xbox 360?
3.  Is Rapala Pro Fishing for Xbox compatible with abovementioned fishing reel controller on Xbox 360?
4.  Is The House of the Dead III for Xbox and light guns compatible with Xbox 360 and big screen TVs?
Anyway, I just think answers to the above and similar compatibility questions would be helpful in the article.  Best, --164.107.223.217 04:10, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Compatibility stuff worth mentioning

message: How come this article doesn't have a (Critical) Reception -section like Wii and PS3? The first Xbox is also lacking one. -TheHande 06:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Already discussed here. Smomo 11:06, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critical Reception? 

message: is there any news regarding this or maybe news should be included in the article? I've heard many rumors but nothing ligit so far. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 146.186.57.176 (talk • contribs).
:If they are unsourced rumors or rumors coming from questionable sources (as in credibility is lacking), then no, you should not include these rumors. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by BirdKr (talk • contribs) 17:06, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  price cut 

message: ;Worldwide sales standings
Console      	Units Sold   	Units Shipped
Xbox 360     	(unknown)    	11.6 Million (as of July 6 2007)
Wii          	6.6 million+ 	N/A
PlayStation 3	3.2 million +	5 million
According to sales reports, Xbox360 is best selling of seventh generation of video game console.
Xbox360 is winner of console war, maybe. what do you think? 
Firefox001 17:51, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Where did you get this information? Did you make it up? Nowhere in this article does it have the information you have listed in that chart. It is true, the unit itself has sold more than both the PS3 and the Wii, but just because more units were shipped doesn't mean it's won this console war. And you can't be certain that it has won. The system was released a whole year before the other two. Give it some time before you make that descision. And if you don't know how many Wiis were shipped you are deffinitely not ready to decide.--Gundor Twintle Fluffy 18:28, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Thats not for us to decide. --soum (0_o) 17:58, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically, it is for us and all other consumers to decide by purchasing the consoles and, therefore, directly causing one console to sell more than another.  It's just not up to us to make the decision of who won (especially since it's far from over), we just buy the consoles and then a group like NPD or something will give us the stats that lead to telling who won.  Useight 20:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC)

text: That's a crap chart as it's really spotty and doesn't even come close to giving a complete picture. After that, it's too early to tell. We're still in the very begining of the seventh generation. --Infosocialist 11:19, 17 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Additionally, the rate at which the Wii is selling shows that it's winning. - A Link to the Past (talk) 18:38, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  winner of console war? 

message: It has been officially renamed The Xbox 360:
http://www.xbox.com/en-US
Wikifan21century 03:41, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Renamed Xbox 360 Pro. --soum (0_o) 03:57, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the Xbox 360 with 20GB hard drive always was just the "Xbox 360" and the Xbox 360 sans 20GB harddrive was the "core." Notice that on the box of the Xbox 360 it just says "xbox 360", with no "premium" or "pro" on it like the core and elite have "Core" and "Elite" on the boxes. It was mostly retailers and consumers that adopted the "premium" designation. Occasionally calling it the "pro" package. When all along it was simply called "Xbox 360." RC Master 09:42, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, and somebody just changed everything from "Premium" to "Pro"... Both are wrong! This is going to require a lot of rewording though, as some sentences are phrased as "the xxxxx package" - What's the right way to reword that?—Fumo7887 (talk • contribs) 20:40, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xbox 360 premium 

message: I have removed this "To show how widespread the Technical problems with the Xbox 360 are, website '360gamer' is currently carrying out a poll to collect results of the 'real' xbox 360 failure rate. Current poll submissions show that 62.44% claim to have experienced Xbox 360 hardware failure. (4425 submissions have been received so far. 2763 of the submissions stated that their xbox 360 has failed.) The 360 Hardware Failure Rate Poll, which also shows results" preposterous addition by user Rory88uk.
Any discussion on how or why this should be included, please state your case here.  It is clearly patently ridiculous on every level (starting with the language, ending with trying to use a webpoll as a wiki-source)
Wageslave 17:44, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccurate Website Polling 

message: After going over the section on backward compatibility, I questioned that old games are played in high resolution and with anti-aliasing. I checked the link provided the source of the statement and found nothing that stated that, but I could see how it was misunderstood.
I have found another source, Microsoft. In an early interview with Tom Holmdahl (I've seen articles that reference it dating around 2005 and 2006) he does state that it will be possible. However, I've found no other mention of it online besides this near quote on Wikipedia. Can anyone verify this and provide a better link for the source? --Infosocialist 11:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Backwards compatibility 

message: Can someone please add the physical dimensions to the appropriate section?
309 mm wide x 83 mm high x 258 mm deep
Refer http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/8417/Xbox-360-Physical-Dimensions/
I came to Wikipedia seeking this information and found it was not available despite their being a paragraph devoted to the physical appearance of the machine. 150.101.121.58 09:03, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Physical Dimensions

message: I can't help but notice that the note/cite referenced for this comment "Emulated games offer graphical enhancements because they are rendered in 720p, 1080i, or 1080p HD resolution with anti-aliasing enabled rather than the Xbox standard of 480p" makes absolutely no mention of it.
Not only that, but I can't find ANY proof of this. I can find proof of the opposite
http://www.gamepro.com/news.cfm?article_id=49789
But the real news is that the Xbox 360's powerful graphical processors will upscale original Xbox games to lush, crisp resolutions of 720p/1080i. Better yet, it applies FSAA (aka full scene anti-aliasing, a visual technique to enhance sharpness) to all backward compatible games
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/backwardcompatibilityqa.htm
One of the great things about gaming on Xbox 360 is the satisfaction of knowing that every game will be playable in high definition. We are now proud to reveal that this extends to the original Xbox games as well. Every original Xbox game will be upscaled to 720p and 1080i —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.150.38.245 (talk • contribs).
I agree. The term 'rendered' needs to be replaces with 'upscaled'. 172.200.152.99 00:05, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note 42, Upscaling and backwards compatability 

message: Is it necessary to remove the "unofficial website"?  It says it's not a scam, and you get things for referring people. MysteryHelp 00:07, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Links like this are considered "linkspam" ("wikispam"), and are always deleted. Mahjongg 10:24, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unofficial Website?

message: —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fightthepower465 (talk • contribs) 19:03, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's hosted on TeamXbox. What are the licensing terms? Unless the licensing is GFDL-compatible, it's not going to replace the current image. Dancter 19:29, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Here's a better Image 

message: Hey I think someone should start to follow this:
http://www.xbox360fanboy.com/2007/06/13/ms-installing-new-heatsinks-in-refurb-360s/ --Elven6 15:58, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Heat Sinks! 

message: Japanese sales of Xbox 360 have not been updated since the 4th of March. This should not be so as sales data in the Japanese market is provided by Media Create on a weekly basis. I suggest that these numbers be updated with more recent ones.--Psa- 19:21, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outdated Japanese Sales 

message: Can someone please put a "this needs references info" template on the sales and technical problems. we need proofs, and more positive info.
Personally i don't like it when some of my friends say the Xbox 360 sucks, that ps3 has more sales and less disc scratching, it was only on the early models of the 360.
More proof on sales and technical benefits being rare and uncommon, and only affected the early models, please
Pece Kocovski 12:09, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Wageslave 20:39, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources please and up-to-date info 

message: There seems to be a bit of toing and froing on the name of the middle SKU (not the core system, not the elite) the one with the silver disc tray.
Microsoft's own website uses both premium 'as in premium bundle' and pro as well - for instance http://www.xbox.com/en-GB/hardware/x/xbox360prosystem/ (in the url), quite a few retailers have started using 'pro' eg [] instead of premium - I'm sure this version was originally called the premium and the 'pro' name only turned up after the elite was released.
Would it be worth mentioning the names 'pro' and 'premium' in passing rather than deleting all reference to them?87.102.79.11 17:32, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: pro/premium/-- system

message: Apparantly fatal inertia is coming to the xbox at some point - if someone hasn't already noticed. The entry in,list of games seems to have the wrong developer/publisher - can someone check
:Hmm, well I don't know exactly what you mean, but not all Xbox 360 games are listed in this article, but the complete list can be found at List of Xbox 360 games and Fatal Inertia is listed there.  Useight 06:04, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: fatal inertia

message: Also the technical problems section - note that the 1/3 figure is coming from an (ex) employee - not from the stores themselves.87.102.0.94 16:12, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It merely adds to the evidence. There have been several reports besides this and the EB Games conference, as well as Micromart (which has been shown that it isn't some minor insignificant store solely because people on Wikipedia haven't heard of it). - A Link to the Past (talk) 07:08, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 33%

message: Just noticed that the Playstation 3's article lists multiple manufacturers for it - Sony, ASUStek, Foxconn etc... Microsoft is certainly the 360's brand but they're its 'manufacturer' to a lesser extent than Sony is of the PS3... 
86.134.73.75 19:35, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manufacturer... 

message: This line is not entirely correct.
"Additionally, the Microsoft representative informed Kassa that Microsoft had contacted the 1% of users who reported the problem with the offer of replacing all their game discs and consoles. [81][82][83]"
The references 81-83 show something different: in the video it is a BOL (an internetseller like Amazon.com) representative who makes this offer and not someone from Microsoft. I think that this statement must be supported -it is now a little bit confusing- by a better reference or otherwise adjusted.
:Correct, the statement was not made by a Microsoft representative, they refused to attend the show, but by a reseller (BOL.com). It was the reseller of one of the gamers that had a bad (scratching) Xbox 360, and who had sued BOL.com for that (that fact was broadcast in an earlier Kassa program). The BOL representative told Kassa they did not care what Microsoft did, because their obligation was to their customer, so during the show they gave the gamer a new Xbox 360 and new games. The BOL representative told Kassa they would write back to the 1% of their customers that had complained that they could get a new Xbox, and replacement games from them. In contrast Microfoft refused all contact with Kassa, but just one day before the broadcast of the program (of which Microsoft had received a copy weeks before) Kassa received a formal letter from Microsoft in Which Microsoft admitted that " “…it is possible that scratches may originate from frequent use.", and that their would replace affected Xbox 360s.  Mahjongg 00:30, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing 

message: Has the Xbox 360 Elite been released in New Zealand yet or has someone come along and used the current US/NZ dollar exchange rate to come up with a price estimate? In the meantime, I'm going to add a "citation needed" tag to the NZ elite price .--Just James 13:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just found out that the release date for the elite in NZ is TBA. I'm therefore removing the price tag altogether.--Just James 15:17, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Zealand 360 Elite Price

message: Microsoft facing $1bn Xbox bill. Someone feel free to incorporate this into the article. Hammer Raccoon 00:53, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  BBC article 

message: The new extended three year warranty only covers failures with the three flashing red lights, it is not all-inclusive.  
71.56.216.180 03:11, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three Year Warranty is for Three Flashing Red Lights Only 

message: Wikipedia you need to add this to your SALES table on the main XBOX 360 page;
Q2 2007 XBOX 360 sales = 0.8 Million
And also may be the following;
<<ESTIMATE>> for Q3 2007 XBOX 360 sales = 0.4 Million - 0.6 Million
Thus making the cumulative estimate for Q3 2007 for the XBOX 360 sales = 12 Million - 12.2 Million —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.26.192.3 (talk • contribs) 
:And where are you quoting the numbers from?  --soum talk 08:56, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And are these really -sales- or simply units that where put out into the market. Mahjongg 10:27, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Q2 2007 XBOX 360 SALES ''(Not estimates)'' 

message: In the section relating to technical errors, there's a phrase: "This display maybe an error message for most minor errors..."
Could somebody please change "maybe" to "may be"?  Typos make me cry.
:Its a typo, it took you more effor to write this out than it would to fix it.  Why do people insist on coming to talk pages with such trivial nonsense.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 13:38, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor Typo needs fixing... 

message: Many third party repair shops opened in response to Microsoft's $140.00 minimum repair cost (plus shipping, which brings the cost to nearly $200.00).  As a reference, new consoles were priced at $300.00, and of course, working used ones available well below that.  Instead, I spent $40.00 (not including shipping) at a third party which successfully repaired my 360's problem, referred to in the Xbox 360 article in the caption under a photo: 'An Xbox 360 showing three red lights, a general hardware failure, also known as the "Red Ring of Death".'
When I called 1-800-4-MY-XBOX today (July 8, 07) I was told that not only would I not be reimbursed the repair cost for the problem, but my 360 will not be covered by the recently announced 3-year warranty.  Third party repair puts my Xbox in the category of a unit that has been "tampered with".
The following is quoted from the Xbox 360 article: 
"In light of locating several issues that could be causing a system failure, Microsoft announced changes to their warranty coverage on July 5, 2007. This increased the standard one year manufacturer's warranty to three years, specifically covering general hardware failures indicated by the three red lights. It is also retroactive to any previously purchased systems; original launch consoles are covered until November 2008. Additionally, any customers who have previously paid for repairs for general hardware failures will be reimbursed in full.[85][86]"
This paragraph makes all-inclusive statements of repair reimbursement coverage and warranty coverage which are not true.  For accuracy, it should be amended to show that there are repairs which will not be reimbursed, and that there are repaired units that will not have the three year warranty.  I do not have numbers, but given the probable numbers of broken units, the repair pricing differential, and the repair effectiveness of the third parties, the number of cases covered by this issue are likely significant.
--75.83.177.8 22:22, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone to make that mistake probably isn't smart enough to find their way to this article.  The lead-in of the paragraph clearly indicates that this is referring to Microsoft's warranty coverage, which includes service from Microsoft only. --Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 13:37, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article currently implies 3rd party repairs will be reimbursed; also, by omission, implies 3 year warranty will extend to owners of those 360s 

message: Why does this article not mention the widely accepted 33% failure rate or the $1.15 billion write-off that micro$oft has to cough up to fix the problem? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.125.22.114 (talk • contribs) 
:Possibly because 33% isn't widely accepted? Bladestorm 22:05, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe once in a while someone could try "coughing up" a reputable and reliable source when they claim something is "widely accepted."  Maybe those people could also sign their posts.--Oni Ookami AlfadorTalk|@ 12:41, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: EB Games stated that there's a 33% failure rate from their perspective. Micromart says that they can't handle the high rate of 360 failures (and I like how it's implied that because Micromart picks a single console out of many and says they cannot fix it, someone states that "just because they can't even fix a toaster doesn't mean it's news", even though they are perfectly capable of repairing PS2s and PSPs). - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:46, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: FOX networks published that a total of 2.5 Million Xbox 360's were already returned because they had a hardware error.  We also know that at the moment 11.6 Million of Xbox 360's have Shipped. That means that even if we include all the unsold XBox 360's in the calculation that are still sitting on the shelves of shops, and the one's that are only occasionally used, more than 21% of all produced Xbox 360's already have been diagnosed with a hardware error!  Mahjongg 00:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technical problems 

message: A new Xbox 360 Halo 3 Edition was announced yesterday in E3.  —Anas talk? 12:06, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Plus, Shane Kim, the MS Game Studios VP, has revealed that a price cut for the Xbox 360 is in store. —Anas talk? 22:52, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New model 

message: I have not done one before but I think it would be appropriate to do an archive of this talk page at this point. (Poweroverwhelming 23:10, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Its about that time 

message: Can someone change this :
The Simpsons Moie Edition by The Simpsons Movie Edition
in the table (comparison chart) thanks74.58.2.90 02:40, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo