Talk:Folk hero

message: Seems like an obvious addition in keeping with some of the other American figures- if we're including Bonny & Clyde, can't really leave him out.  72.227.98.109 (talk) 09:18, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: John Dillinger?

message: I have removed the following entries from the article:
*Abdul Kalam - current President of India, known as The Missile Man of India http://www.vanderbilt.edu/radsafe/0207/msg00465.html About Abdul Kalam 
*José Bové - French anti-globalization activisthttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/1143951.stm About José Bové
*Chico Mendes - Brazilian rubber worker who defended the Amazon rainforests from development
*Hassan Nasrallah - Lebanese leader during the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflicthttp://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,433399,00.html Hassan Nasrallah as folk hero  http://travel2.nytimes.com/2006/07/28/world/middleeast/28arabs.html
All of these entries are public figures who are documented in the international media.  This makes them unlikely to be "folk heros" in the sense of someone who is likely to become the subject of folk tales and to achieve mythic qualities similar to the other folk heros mentioned in the article.
The individuals listed above may be popular "heroes of the people" but that is, IMO, another category that is quite different from the concept being presented in this article.
--Richard 18:02, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Current folk heros

message: At the very least, we could have this article and one or more lists (e.g. List of American folk heroes.  Alternatively, we could have one or more categories.  In any event, the intro paragraphs would stay here as a definition of what a folk hero is but it seems to me that there are better ways in Wikipedia to build lists.  --Richard 19:02, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Propose converting the list part of this article into a category

message: This article lists Johnny Appleseed and John Henry as "folk heroes known to be fictional".  Johnny Appleseed was a real man who had become a legend even before he died.  His real name was John Chapman.  Although it's not as clear with John Henry, I've found research arguing that he was also a real person and that his race with the steam drill may actually have taken place
Perhaps they should be moved to the first category? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ksher712 (talk • contribs) 09:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Johnny Appleseed and John Henry 

message: This is a great article! I'm very fond with it! -)-(-H- (|-|) -O-)-(- 07:39, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great article 

message: I'm not sure why there is a need for a seperate article on US folk heroes. Are they not good enough for the main article? The lists are duplicated in places and could easily be merged into this. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 05:24, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: From what I can tell, Jack Sheppard was an 18th century British burglar who became famous for jailbreaks and wildly popularized with the poorer classes, becoming both a notorious public figure and a folk hero at the same time.  Of course, the actions of his nemesis, criminal overlord and fraudulent "Thief-Taker General" Jonathan Wild, made Jack seem like a martyr because he was non-violent and had a slight build, a pale, gentle face and an innocent smile.  Why not add Jack to the "Folk Hero" list? --Angeldeb82 21:25, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Why not [[Jack Sheppard]]?

message: I've illustrated the page with the image shown here, depicting a large statue of the Frisian folk hero, giant and warrior Grutte Pier (Pier Gerlofs Donia). -The Bold Guy- 11:06, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illustration 

message: I added link from zelda, and someone removed it. I know it seems silly but he really does fit the definition. I can not see any consistent reasoning for including a character from 'to kill a mockingbird' but not from the zelda series. Another example is Jayne Cobb. Neither is more or less or fictional or notable, it's just that one is considered 'higher' culture, which I don't think is an acceptable criterea for inclusion. What would make most sense is to include ones who have once been blieved to be real or that have been used as symbols for significant movements in reality.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.11.196.206 (talk) 20:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Link

message: ' a·poc·ry·phal (ə-pŏk'rə-fəl) pronunciation
adj.
   1. Of questionable authorship or authenticity.
   2. Erroneous; fictitious: “Wildly apocryphal rumors about starvation in Petrograd . . . raced through Russia's trenches” (W. Bruce Lincoln).
   3. Apocryphal Bible. Of or having to do with the Apocrypha.''
''
I take it the title refers to the first definition, in which case "possibly" seems a bit redundant.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.11.196.206 (talk) 12:38, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: apocryphal

message: Sam Steele is pretty much the most famous Canadian folk hero, I think he deserves a mention in this article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.171.201 (talk) 19:22, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sam Steele 

message: Musashi is in there twice.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.86.175.236 (talk) 07:50, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repetition 

message: Is it really an established fact that Siegfried / Sigurðr was not a historical person? I mean, even if he obviously didn't slay a real dragon, does that mean the person himself is necessarily fictional? What sources do we have that prove he didn't exist? And if none, shouldn't he be moved into the "maybe historical, maybe not" section? -- 77.7.171.213 (talk) 11:09, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Siegfried / Sigurðr known to be fictional? 

message: If no one objects in.....say, two weeks time, I would like to add the following to the list: Martin Luther King, Huey Newton, Huey Long, Rosa Parks, Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Susan B. Anthony, Rosie the Riveter/Ronnie the Bren Gun girl, Big Bill Haywood, Woody Guthrie, Bruce Springsteen, Ben Franklin, Paul Revere, Sam Adams, Patrick Henry, Nathan Hale, John Paul Jones, Ethan Allen, [Frances Marion]], and Uncle Sam/John Bull/Johnny Canuck.
If anyone objects, please object to an item or items of the group rather than the whole group, and give reasons.
Also, what is the criteria for American presidents being on the list?  I notice Lincoln is on there but other presidents that might warrant inclusion (ex. JFK, FDR, Washington, and Jefferson) aren't.......?--Mobtown Mongrel (talk) 15:59, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some proposed additions 

message: Far Too Americanised. There are far too many from the US. Some are really trivial.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.5.51.170 (talk) 21:35, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a list, so not including entries simply because they are "American" is not how it is or should be (thats discrimination). If it was a list for examples of folk heroes (and not a list for every folk hero, as it is), than I could see your point. Also, this is English wiki, so there are bound to be more links for American (or English speaking) folk heroes than anything else. Some are indeed trivial though and should be removed, personally this article should be a list of historic (well established) folk heros, and not just anybody the media wants to call one.--$1LENCE D00600D (talk) 05:38, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Far Too Americanised. 

message: I read this page about folk heroes and - pardon - I found it really biased.
Anyway - who is this Carmine Crocco? Although I'm Italian, I've never heard about this guy. The Italian folk hero could be considered Garibaldi, Falcone and Borsellino ... But please, take it for you such foolishness. --79.23.53.215 (talk) 18:03, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carmine Crocco 

message: I'm planning on trimming this page down a bit in faulty examples. People like Joan d'Ark are very notable and relevant national heroes, but Bonny and Clyde? Not in particular. Unless multiple independent sources refer to the subject as either a "folk hero", a "national hero" or another such variation, it should not be included. This isn't even a list article. Bataaf van Oranje (talk) 15:40, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Real or "Possibly apocryphal ", which is it? He's listed twice. 2001:56A:F414:D300:F090:6EA2:FCF8:9EE4 (talk) 03:56, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Miloš Obilić

message: I was thinking about it this morning and was thinking about
Don Quixote, Scarlet Pimpernel, The Three Musketeers
There were a few more, I forgot already. It seems like they would fit in well with already established Arthur, Merlin, Robin Hood, Jeanne d'Arc (The Maid of Orléans), Guy Fawkes
Trying to bridge the gap obviously with people like Swamp Fox (Francis Marion), Daniel Boone, James Bowie, and Davy Crockett who were folk heroes but I see some but not others? I'm sure it ends up opening up the list to everyone and their mom if you end up adding Cesar Chavez, Rosa Parks, and everyone's favorite Che Guevara.. although I see Ghandi but not Mother Teresa, MLK, etc.. so yeah it gets scope creep revisionist history quick trying to add actual legitimate historical figures in with the rest but wanted to toss it here anyway.
WikiPally (talk) 19:33, 18 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  A few more I was wondering about 

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