Talk:Athens, Ohio

message: Is the name of the town pronounced with a long a or a short a like the town in Greece?Edison 05:19, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I removed this section which was basically a plug for a local radio presenter.
Regards
Capitalistroadster 18:42, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Awesome Media People

message: I removed this statement which is simply not true:
"Most hillsides, though, are solid sandstone and present very little slip potential."
jaknouse 18:29, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Stable Hillsides

message: Actually, this IS a real event that has happened in 2006 and 2007 (and is over for the year as I write).  If it happens again next year, I would feel justified listing it. jaknouse 19:09, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, definitely seen human/zombie battles in town... it's actually a significant piece of Athens culture. Check it out: http://hvzathens.com/ Guypersonson (talk) 00:49, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Human vs. Zombies

message: This article needs a lot of citations in pretty much every section, especially of oustanding claims are made.  Please be sure to add a source and avoid using phrases like "most people say" or "some people think", etc.  --JonRidinger (talk) 07:09, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: *  How about a section on local culture?  would include more info on the farmers market, arts, community, cuisine?
* The economy section is lacking on local businesses. 
* Recreation section needs discussions of hunting, mountainbiking, horseback riding, rock climbing / bouldering, birdwatching?, 
* could use many more images.
*
--Htw3 (talk) 15:34, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as reliable sources can be found and there isn't too much detail, those additions would be great.  Again, see WP:USCITY if you haven't already.  It not only has organizational guidelines, but also suggestions for content scope.  What we're going for is a thorough, but still somewhat general, article about the city, not a comprehensive guide to everything in Athens.  --JonRidinger (talk) 15:40, 20 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Also, if information is missing or unknown, simply leave it out of the article.  Putting "??", inserting or leaving a blank section, or placing "discussion needed" isn't appropriate.  The place to discuss content is here on the article talk page.  Basically, don't add info to any article if you aren't sure AND you don't have reliable sources to verify the info.  If a section needs improvements, there are several tags to draw attention to the problem, including sources, neutrality, cleanup, and many more.  --JonRidinger (talk) 15:57, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing content

message: Generally, the only external links that should be in this section are things like the official city website and the Chamber of Commerce.  Because the city of Athens appears to not have its own chamber of commerce, then the link for that is more appropriate at the Athens County, Ohio article.  In other words, all external links need to have a direct connection to the subject of the article, which is the city of Athens.  See also WP:EL and WP:USCITY#External links for more information.  --JonRidinger (talk) 20:46, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links section 

message: If this is true, it should definitely be expanded upon.  I only did a little digging, but there is a historical marker in town that lists 1797 as when the first colonists from New England arrived in Athens County.  That doesn't mean they founded the city, of course.  The marker is listed here:  http://www.hmdb.org/marker.asp?marker=15545  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.57.82.4 (talk) 16:12, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The "African" part was actually vandalism.  It originally said "European".  Unless there are some sources that state otherwise, I find it pretty hard to believe a group of Africans settled in southern Ohio in the late 1790s given the fact that southern Ohio was claimed by slave state Virginia.  --JonRidinger (talk) 16:00, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Settled by Africans? 

message: The expansion of the history section has been a welcome improvement.  However, be careful that the section stays on topic.  The topic is Athens, Ohio, so tons of details about the various groups who settled or may have been in the area aren't needed since all of them have Wikipedia articles of their own.  Of course there is room to put each group in proper context, but details such as lifestyle, separate history, and even what they ate aren't appropriate for the history.  Also, lots of details about "nearby" things aren't needed either.  This article is about the city of Athens, not the Athens region or even Athens County.  I removed what I felt were excess details that really didn't add to any understanding of the topic itself.  --JonRidinger (talk) 18:20, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you raising the problem of over-expansion. I agree that the history section that has been recently added seems quite general to the Ohio Valley area and seems far too extensive for an article on Athens. I will try to see if the edits come from someone who is participating in the this talk page discussion or is otherwise socially involved in Wikipedia.  It would be nice to gain some mutual understanding with whomever is spearheading those additions.--Htw3 (talk) 19:39, 5 June 2012 (UTC)

text: Actually, I see that it is HistoryPerson99, whom you spoke to via user talk.  However this edit identity seems to be a bit of a drive-by editor and my not be aware of talk pages of any sort.  I will use the city template / example linked elsewhere on this page to start shifting the outline and content more towards standard pages.--Htw3 (talk) 19:49, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: I removed the entry for William James Hoge.  Although, yes, there is a reliable source (though I'm not a big fan of a Who's Who book being the only RS) that indicates he's from Athens and was a noted Biblical scholar, that does not establish that he meets the threshold of notability, even for WP:LISTPEOPLE.  The main exception for including a person in a notable people list who does not already have a Wikipedia article is that the "person is especially important in the list's group; for example, if the person is famous for a specific event..."  In other words, there will be some kind of article linked that will mention that person.  An example I encountered when doing the Kent, Ohio article was the name of Lucien B. Price.  There is not a Wikipedia article about him, but several reliable sources indicate he is the listed inventor of (took the first patent in the US for) barbed wire (i.e. a single event) and thus he is mentioned on the barbed wire article.  Potentially, an article could be written about him, but as of now it would be all of one line long since almost no information is available about him outside his status as the first patent holder of barbed wire and the fact he was living in Kent at the time of the patent.  For Hoge, I haven't seen anything on the related articles that indicate any notability.  While reliable sources are needed to establish notability, having them does not automatically mean someone is notable.  They would need to be covered in several, wide-ranging sources.  From a quick web search, very little comes up beyond the Hoge Family Papers from the Presbyterian Church USA (he was one of several in his family who were ministers) and some mentions on family history sites.  --JonRidinger (talk) 15:02, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable people 

message: I've twice removed an Ohio University flag from this article.  MOS:IMAGES states: "images must be relevant to the article that they appear in and be significantly and directly related to the article's topic." This article is about Athens, Ohio.  It isn't about Ohio University, which has its own article (or about flags, or random rooftops).  This image adds nothing to the article, as it shows nothing of Athens.  If it was a photo of the university--with the same flag flying, or of the main street in Athens, again with the same flag flying--then it would certainly be a wonderful addition to this article.  I would suggest that if the photographer insists on having his or her photos "on display", a Flickr account might be a better venue.  Thank you for your input.  Magnolia677 (talk) 04:02, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Au contraire sentient Mag, Athens would not exist without Ohio University.   It was founded for the purpose of the school...Boo!  Now undo your low act. Platoniam (talk) 10:21, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag of Ohio University 

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message: I propose Athens Governmental Buildings should be merged into Athens, Ohio as it would fit perfectly as a subsection in Athens, Ohio.Elijahandskip (talk) 19:38, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the merger proposal. Buildings on the National Register of Historic Places typically have standalone articles. - Eureka Lott 19:02, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Proposal