Talk:Wade Rathke

message: I would like to remove the "Notability" tag.  While Rathke may not be a household name, his stature on the left is undeniable and he has had his fingerprints on more projects than just about any other left-wing organizer over the last thirty years.  You may not like what he does, but there's no denying that he's done it, and he's an important figure currently and historically.  It's especially notable that he started and continues to lead ACORN, and that would be enough, but as this article shows, he has left many other notable impressions on the nation's political landscape. Politics608 (talk) 22:59, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, no, Rathke does not continue to lead ACORN (as discussed in ACORN Cracks Wide Open by Carl Horowitz). Asteriks (talk) 22:21, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
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message: A new editor has repeatedly inserted the following content:
::A member of the radical Marxist Students for a Democratic Society (SDS), he dropped out in 1968 to join the anti-draft movement. Rael Jean Isaac, Erich Isaac. The coercive utopians. Regenrey Publishing. 1983<ref>Andrew C. McCarthy. ''
I have removed this for a number of WP:BLP violations, and will continue to do so.  It is contentious material that requires solid sources.  The citation provided doesn't provide a page number, but nowhere in the book does it refer to Rathke being a radical marxist, dropping out of anything, joining anti-draft movements, etc.  Since this isn't discussed elsewhere in the article, it's also not lead-paragraph material.  I will continue to remove it per WP:BLP; the content being added is not in the source provided. Xenophrenic (talk) 01:41, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Google books has the book ref; I can't get a full view, but on page 168 it does mention him being in SDS (I don't know the context, so I don't know if it supports the "marxist" or anti-draft portions. The McCarthy article is online here; the Rathke mention is on the second page. It mentions him in SDS and describes SDS as "communist"; nothing about the anti-draft movement. If the book or another cite does support this, I'd think the education section would be more appropriate than the lede. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 02:13, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wikipedia article on SDS specifically states they were neither Marxist nor Communist. Xenophrenic (talk) 01:43, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

text:  I have a copy of the book on my shelf and the reference to Rathke going on to work against the draft is in the next paragraph. - PC  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pecker Checker (talk • contribs) 02:39, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I now also have a copy of the book, and there is nothing at all about Rathke going on to work against the draft in the next paragraph... or anywhere else in the book. In addition, the reference to the SDS membership per page 168 of this book is cited to footnote (#4) to New Spirit magazine, March 1979 issue (page 22), which only speculates on the SDS relationship. As this is a WP:BLP, a more substantial source will be required.  I find the outright deception that "the reference to Rathke going on to work against the draft is in the next paragraph," when it clearly is not, very disconcerting. Xenophrenic (talk) 01:40, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Edits

message: I have reverted an edit that didn't have an edit summary.  That edit also inserted unsourced content about a "Centre for Community Leadership", and additionally for a "Community Leadership Centre".  That edit also removed a "citation needed" tag.  It also inserted poorly sourced and disputed speculation about a living person, while removing properly sourced content about debts repaid, etc.  This edit mirrors similar edits by this new account. Xenophrenic (talk) 21:21, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The poorly sourced material is from The Boston Globe, The NY Post and the Washington Post. They are all hard news outlets and very mainstream. I think that the objection to adding the information has more to do with a dislike of it rather than a problem with its source. It’s all directly relevant to Wade and his forced resignation from Acorn. Knucklehead Dojo (talk) 21:28, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: And I disagree, based on equally reliable sources, as explained above.  So until we resolve the issues, please refrain from inserting contentious content into this BLP.  You have boldly made your edits, and they have been reverted, so it is time to come to a resolution on your proposed edits.  Which would you like to tackle first? Xenophrenic (talk) 21:49, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
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