Talk:King Ghidorah

message: I'm thinking that it would be best to move the "King Ghidorah" page to "Ghidorah". As-is the article describes all of the creatures that go by the name "Ghidorah" not just the ones named "King" Ghidorah.--Marhawkman 17:08, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I agree with you, that Ghidorah should be the name of the article because, like you said, all the monsters in this article are Ghidorah "species"--4444hhhh (talk) 19:01, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 

message: As with Godzilla, it seems more appropriate to discuss all the various incarnations of Ghidrah in one place, to facilitate comparisons and ease reading, hence the proposed merge from Death Ghidorah.—Crazillatalk|contribs 18:42, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: It's stated that Ghidorah only acts on his own in at most only two movies.  This is very incorrect.  In his first appearance, "Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster" he was under no mind control, unless you consider him to be under the control of the Xillians from Invasion of Astro-Monster, though I don't think they every flat-out said "we've been under control of Ghidorah this whole time."
Also, during Godzilla Vs. Gigan, after the Godzilla tower was destroyed, he was no longer under mind control.  Also, he was under no control after Godzilla destroyed the Time Ship in Godzilla Vs. King Ghidorah.
In GMK, he's under no control at all, same with Rebirth of Mothra 3.
Finally, to be honest, I'm not sure the line "It is also one of the daikaiju most susceptible to mind control" is really accurate.  I don't think it's because he's the most susceptable, rather because he's one of the most powerful that aliens continually use him.  This could be me being anal though.24.19.62.17 03:54, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mind control correction 

message: The last sentence of the 1st paragraph of "Millenium Era" states: "During the battle the 3 guardian Monsters' energy fused into Godzilla making him a guardian monster himself."  Is this accurate?  I don't remember that being the case at the end of GMK.  The Shrike 16:51, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Godzilla Becomes Guardian Monster 

message: I've notice that the page on King Ghidorah has a section talking about Keizer Ghidorah. However, I feel that it would be best if the information on Keizer (Or Keiser...whichever you prefer) is more appropriate for the Monster X article. This is because, while Keizer Ghidorah does have the name "Ghidorah" in it, it's not the same monster as King Ghidorah. Also, Keizer Ghidorah and Monster X are basically the same monster...just with two different forms. I mean, I don't see any articles that seperate Mothra Larva from Adult Mothra (Imago Mothra) or Baby Godzilla from Godzilla Junior.206.176.97.195 18:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Dude, that's wacked out, it's like saying that godzilla isn't a dinosaur Pikazilla 21:03, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't Keizer Ghidiorah Be With The Monster-X Page 

message: Death Ghidorah arrived on Earth as Death Ghidorah. It is not in any way related to Cretaceous Ghidorah or Grand King Ghidorah. --Marhawkman 02:37, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death Ghidorah 

message: Apparently somebody put King Ghidorah in the fictional Kings category. Where exactly does King Ghidorah rule over? Seems to me somebody put that in without knowing anything about the character. "King" in King Ghidorah's name doesn't really mean he is one. It's just apart of his name. If "King of Terror" actually meant something other then a nickname like "King of the Monsters" for Godzilla. Then it actually might make since. Otherwise, I don't see how. --Apelinq
*This creature rules over absolutely nothing...... It's confusion based on the fact that it has "king" in it's name. I'm gonna go whack that now.....--Marhawkman 06:59, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: that would be like adding elvis presley and Albert Einstein to the category.--Marhawkman 22:04, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing categorization 

message: I noticed this part in the Showa timeline section:
"While generally accepted as a victory for Godzilla and Rodan, some have argued that Ghidorah actually won the encounter and left of his own accord, maybe because he was too injured to continue attacking Earth. Some have looked to the fact that in the next film Godzilla vs. the Sea Monster, Godzilla is found on an island supposedly dead but others fans say that Godzilla is recovering or sleeping."
This is an incorrect statement from the fact that "Monster Zero" is supposed to take place in 198X, not during the 1960's like the other films (including "Godzilla vs the Sea Monster") do. Chronologically, "Godzilla vs the Sea Monster" would come after "Ghidorah, the Three Headed Monster", not "Monster Zero".
I know that a lot of Ghidorah fans like to use this support, that the characters wonder if Godzilla is still alive during "Godzilla vs the Sea Monster" as evidence for them that King Ghidorah won in "Monster Zero", but the fact is, the two films don't go back to back chronologically. And in case anyone thinks I'm wrong, watch the Japanese version of "Monster Zero", a message appears right after the opening credits stating that the film takes place in "198X". Just thought I'd point this out.
::I suppose it should be pointed out that there is no well defined "continuity".--Marhawkman 19:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Showa Continuity Flub 

message: I don't know how there is a seperate page for MechaGhidorah, but it sould be merged.--Marhawkman 00:47, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: proposed merge

message: I'm not sure about this edit. Was the ray used in "Godzilla vs Monster X" or "Invasion of Astro-Monster"? Xiner (talk, email) 20:56, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New edit

message: Isn't it inconsistent to insist on 'King Ghidorah'? Shouldn't it either be 'King Ghidra' or 'Kingu Ghidorah'?
Axamoto 14:53, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Toho calls it King Ghidorah.... So except for the part explaining the Japanese name we use King Ghidorah.--Marhawkman 14:00, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question Re: English Name 

message: This is quite a challenge actually; from what I gather it seems that Kaiser Ghidorah is oficially Monster X II, so Monster X may actually be a larval King Ghidorah.  I am not sure if it is appropriate to treat "King" Ghidorah as synonimous with "Kaiser" Ghidorah (apparently not).
Then we have Death Ghidorah, Dorats, Grand King Ghidorah and, it seems, we shold treat Grand Ghidorah (a more literal translation of the Japanese) as an alias to Grand King Ghidorah.
And as a further complication, King Ghidorah has been featured in what may easily be alternate timelines in shows such as Zone Fighter's, and he is also depicted in a somewhat inconsistente manner in various films even in the official continuity.
It will take some effort to streamline that mess. Luis Dantas 10:00, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah... It's why the history is broken up into severeal peices. There are literally around a half-dozen Kaiju named Ghidorah. One thing to note is that we don't have an oficial name for Grand King Ghidorah. Rebirth of Mothra3 hasn't been dubbed yet.--Marhawkman 10:58, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good to me. But King Ghidorah doesn't really die in "Godzilla vs King Ghidorah". It's critically wounded and falls into a comatose state. It's mentioned in the movie that creating MechaGhidorah required it to have survived it's decaptitation. I guess having three heads is good for something. :p--Marhawkman 22:08, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Zone fighter was odd. It appeared to be the Showa Ghidorah, but in Zone fighter some idiot group of aliens claimed to have created it. Interestingly Ghidorah doesn't die in Zone fighter, unlike the majority of monsters beaten by the titular hero.--Marhawkman 10:35, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sorting out names and alternate forms

message: Okay, this has gone on long enough. Will whoever keeps insinuating Ghidorah is a terrorist speak up now and explain his case?129.12.230.169 21:12, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ghidorah a terrorist? 

message: Seriously...eiga and movie is the same thing as is kaiju and creature.  At least give an explanation of what these terms mean and don't act like the general populace that doesn't know Japanese would know these things.  That is just elitism.Neoyamaneko 17:25, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's why we use wikilinks.--Marhawkman (talk) 01:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A lot of elitism in the article 

message: I reverted a large edit tonight that was a clear copy/paste from http://www.answers.com/topic/king-ghidorah. Please keep an eye on the article, and if this happens again, ask the editor to review WP:COPY, thanks! Ariel♥Gold 02:20, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright reminder 

message: The article says Ghidorah has been portrayed via CGI. Where and when has this been done? In most of the ones I've seen (or seen parts of), he's a suit. Which films are CGI? Scorpionman (talk) 20:49, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Part of GMK, and monster X's transformation into Kaiser Ghidorah. those did use CGI to render the characte.--Marhawkman (talk) 11:20, 20 November 2007 (UTC)

text: In that case, Godzilla's underwater shot in Godzilla 2000, which was CGI, should also be mentioned in his article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scorpionman (talk • contribs) 02:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  CGI 

message: I think there should be a page of some of the different versions of King Ghidorah. Does anyone agree? --Naruto134 00:00, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A List? 

message: I was looking over the list of other Ghidorahs and noticed that not only were several in non-encyclopedic format, they were direct cut-and pastes from fan-made Godzilla-centric wikias.  I propose that something be done to rectify this immediately. 173.180.89.129 (talk) 04:02, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: On it. At present, a page that reads more like a fan site. Must be encyclopedia standard. Thebladesofchaos (talk) 05:09, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite 

message: I know it's only in Godzilla Final Wars in his Kaiser Ghidorah form; however King Ghidorah does have gravity beams which I think should constitute him being listed under Category:Fictional characters with gravity abilities.
:King Ghidorah himself never had the ability to levitate objects with his Gravity beams, it is stated explicitly that he manipulates gravitational pull between atoms to generate the beams. Only Keizer Ghidorah has the ability to levitate and toss objects around with his beams, and he is NOT the same as King Ghidorah. Likewise, the Grand King Ghidorah, whilst simply being called King Ghidorah in Japan, is NOT the same King Ghidorah, rather he is a more powerful incarnation of his species. The Ghidorahs can be seen as a diverse genus, with King Ghidorah being one of the species.--BrayLockBoy (talk) 08:35, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, technically all of the King Ghidorah incarnations seem to have gravity abilities; Kaiser Ghidorah isn't actually a King Ghidorah version; just another Ghidorah like Deathghidorah. Dromaeosaurus is best dinosaur (talk) 13:26, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gravity Beams 

message: The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion:
* 
Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 11:54, 2 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page has been nominated for deletion 

message: What is the deal with the picture here? This version of Ghidorah never appeared in any actual works, neither the paint job or the shape of the wings. From my understanding this was a test version used for the film, but this version of the character never actually made it into a film beyond some early posters for Ghidorah the Three Headed monster... I mean I can pop in my DVD of the movie right now and tell you that isnt what he looks like, so like my question is, why use a what is effectively an unfinished version of the character for the articles main image of it? This would be about as accurate as using a picture of some concept art... it is an image that is not indicative of the character in any way. 2601:40A:4100:6D90:4C6:ABD3:436C:4185 (talk) 22:02, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It was the only decent picture of the 1964 incarnation I could find without Ghidorah moving, flying, attacking, or having other monsters in the same shot. The photo is official anyways and the character looks the exact same as the final version. The only difference is the color hues on the wings and body. That's it. Also, I felt that it would have been fair and unbias to use an image of the first incarnation rather than a later iteration. Armegon (talk) 04:08, 15 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Evidently its not identical, considering that two of the primary details are entirely different. That is not how something being identical works... its not the an image of the first incarnation, this version of the character has literally never been in a movie. It looks almost entirely different. You can say it is the only decent picture you could find all you want, but this is not a picture of the 1964 incarnation ghidorah, this image is of a version that was never in a film... its not representative of the character, and it is outright a lie because this is not what the character looked like. This would be like putting up a random piece of concept art. I assure you 1000% there is a picture out there of ghidorah that actually has the films final version of ghidorah, rather than an early behind the scenes version of it that didnt make it into the final film. 2601:40A:4100:6D90:FD6A:40D7:E4D6:6119 (talk) 00:43, 18 May 2019 (UTC)

text: I'm in total agreement with this being the absolute wrong picture to use. Ghidorah has made a dozen on-screen appearances and literally NONE of them were Rainbow Ghidorah. Like, how did someone even find this picture? You would have to sift through the 99.9% gold Ghidorahs to find the ONE rainbow Ghidorah  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.102.218 (talk) 19:27, 2 June 2019 (UTC)

text: OPPOSED: Regardless, these arguments that the image is "wrong" and shouldn't be used on the basis that you don't personally like it holds no merit, much less any constructive grounds to remove it. It is an OFFICIAL IMAGE from the set of Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster and even used by Toho for the official poster. Granted, the skin color may be different but that is the exact suit that was produced and used for the movie. Armegon (talk) 10:31, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: half of godzilla's movie posters are out and out lies compared to the movie itself  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.102.218 (talk) 10:22, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: none of the arguements were based on how people didnt like it, the argument is solely that... this is not representative of the character. IT doesnt look at all like the final version of ghidorah in ANY product. This would be like using the old batman concept art as the main image for the batman article. 73.18.134.238 (talk) 20:03, 19 September 2020 (UTC)

text: Armegon the picture is clear, however it isn't a Ghidorah people would know and should be best left in the development section of the article. As it stands the main image of the Ghidorah page is of a Ghidorah only used in select promotional material and not in any released works. Jouaienttoi (talk) 23:29, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whats the deal with the Picture? 

message: king Ghidorah spacegodzilla Mecha Godzilla gigan Rodan Herndon destoroyah skull crawler megaguirus 2603:9001:3100:6D01:ED42:8421:C409:30B1 (talk) 22:49, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  godzilla villains  

message: Is https://screenrant.com/godzilla-2-monarch-site-every-secret a useful source for describing the monster's appearance in a 2019 film? It's quoting hidden content from the film's promotional website:
:
It's unclear from this whether the Reddit users found content that site visitors were meant to be able to unlock in another way, or placeholder content that was never meant to be published. Belbury (talk) 22:33, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monarch website 

message: The header image is not a good reflection of the character, it's a production image which differs significantly from the actual King Ghidorah design seen in his debut appearance. A clearer image of the actual design from Ghidorah, the Three-Headed Monster should be used, with the production image moved elsewhere on the page. 2A00:23C8:2A82:AC01:144B:71CD:E13C:AC4A (talk) 19:45, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Header Image