Talk:Evgeni Plushenko

message: Ari Zakarian, Evgeni's agent has already talked about Plushenko not knowing about that medal, so I will ask that the part about him being "dissatisfied" to be removed from the wikipage
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/wire?section=oly&id=4939878  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Axva (talk • contribs) 20:20, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding the platinum medal 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Evgeny_Plushenko&diff=prev&oldid=39923722 !!! before the final even had started ! /Grön 11:29, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [17 February 2006]

message: Previous versions of this article have asserted that Plushenko has landed quadruple salchows in competition, and that he was the first skater to land quadruple lutzes and loops in practice.
As far as I have been able to determine, Plushenko never landed a quadruple salchow in any national or international competition.  He usually just does quad toe loops.  The only reference I can find to him even attempting a quad salchow was at a minor competition in Samara in 2004 .
While I personally witnessed Plushenko doing a clean quad lutz in practice at the 2003 World Championships, Michael Weiss was landing this jump in practice as far back as early 1997, and Elvis Stojko was also said to have been landing them around that time.  It seems very unlikely to me that Plushenko could have been landing them before that since he was all of 14 years old at the time.  In any case, we need specific evidence to back up this claim.
As far as quad loops go, Roman Serov was attempting them in competition in 2000 and 2001, so presumably he had already been landing them in practice by that point.  Again, we need specific dates and evidence to give Plushenko priority.  Dr.frog 21:36, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since we have a reliable report that Plushenko has landed a quad salchow in competition, we can take it as a given that he has also landed them in practice.  There is no need to keep inserting ungrammatical statements that he has done so.  It may be factually true, but it does not improve the article, so leave it alone, OK?  Dr.frog 16:47, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

text: YouTube videos are not considered a reliable source on Wikipedia, nor is the evidence of my own eyes (that's a primary source, not a reliable source).  Also, things that you have to qualify with "maybe" are not encyclopedic.  Sorry.  Plushenko's verifiable achievements are impressive enough; you don't have to puff up his reputation by inserting claims that are either unverified or unverifiable by reliable sources.  Dr.frog (talk) 20:18, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I am sorry, but video is the clear proof and wiki it recognises. In many articles in wiki are references to video files. I am don't have to puff up his reputation by inserting claims!!! It is fact!!! Eurosport and sport-express.ru - enough authoritative sources! Wiki demands acknowledgement of the facts and I have given them. Also it isn't necessary to declare that they are either unverified or unverifiable by reliable sources. All of them are accessible on the Internet and even very verified, verifiable and checked. If you don't wish to see this information in article - is does not mean that other readers against it too. I did not break rules of wiki, also have given not one reference. So the reason for revert me is not present. Simply there are divergences of opinions, but it not an occasion for reverts too!--79.183.192.92 (talk) 22:18, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Blades on Ice magazine's report on the 2001 Cup of Russia competition (January/February 2002 issue, p34) says that Plushenko fell on the quad lutz attempt at that competition.  No way does that "count" as a successfully landed jump.  The article does confirm he was practicing the jump at that time, but so were other skaters.  As previously noted, Michael Weiss was already attempting the jump in competition as early as 1997.  Dr.frog (talk) 15:06, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Plushenko's jumps

message: What's going on with the reverts? If you haven't before, could you please discuss this? Also, please leave edit summaries in English as most of us here cannot read Cyrillic. Thanks. --Fang Aili talk 14:25, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a long-term vandal.  See User:Roitr/sockpuppeter.  Dr.frog 17:11, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Understood. --Fang Aili talk 17:15, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have semi-protected the article.  The revert war was getting out of hand.—Ëzhiki (Igel Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 17:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverts? 

message: For rolling his eyes during the United States national anthem. 208.120.25.41 (talk) 21:21, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notorious controversy! 

message: External link www.evgeniplushenko.net comes back as 'page not found'. This might be a dead link that needs removed. Romaq 14:04, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead External Link 

message: In this recently added section, the citation does not appear to say how many fans signed the open letter. I suggest a better citation or an English source should be found.
"After the competition, more than 6,000 sports fans from all over the world sent an open letter to the International Olympic Committee, International Skating Union, Member Federations of Russia, Japan, France, Germany, Italy, China and other countries to protest the results and judging system, which they believe are unfair.[citation needed][21]" --Panda609 (talk) 21:41, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The original reference for this was to a post on a message board.  Regardless of what language it's in, that's not a reliable source for a BLP article -- especially when the material is as contentious as this.  I've removed the claim from the article unless/until a better source can be found.  Dr.frog (talk) 23:56, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protest Letter 

message: The Programs section lacks a lot of citations. 
* 1995-2000 - these five seasons are completely uncited
* 2000-2002 - these two seasons are cited from icecalc.de who seem to have a questionable copy (copyright violation?) of ISU page; in addition:
** exhibition programs uncited
** 2000-01 free program says "Tango from Hasta que te Conoci by Raúl di Blasio" but source cited says "Tango from The Addams Family (soundtrack) by Mark Shaiman"
** 2001-02 short program, no citations for the specific songs
** 2001-02 2nd free program, list does not match list in citation
* 2002-2006 - these four seasons are only cited by dead links, so might as well be completely uncited
* 2006-2014 - all the exhibition programs are uncited
I've added the Refimprove section banner. Kirin13 (talk) 17:35, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations needed for ''Programs'' section 

message: The Achievements section is poorly cited. 
Paragraph/sentence numbering below is of :
* P2 - Completely uncited.
* P3 - First sentence has Youtube video as citation, which may show him do the jumps, but it does not provide evidence that he was first. Rest of sentences are uncited.
* P4 - Completely uncited.
* P5 - Completely uncited.
* P6 - First two sentence (6.0 system) are uncited. Third sentence (Code of Points) is fine.
I've added the Refimprove section banner. Since this a biography of a living person, any unsourced or poorly sourced information is liable to being immediately removed ... Kirin13 (talk) 20:44, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations needed for ''Achievements'' section 

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replies: text: The added link is replaced with the one archived after the 2010 Vancouver Olympics. There is a need to find a more recent one compiled after the 2014 Sochi Olympics. ISU.org changed their website recently, so it will not be easy to find such info. Seameetsmountain (talk) 13:41, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
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message: The paragraph says:
<<The Cyrillic shcha ("щ") may be transliterated as 'sh' to reflect modern Russian pronunciation ...>>
There's no such Russian pronunciation, new or any, that would replace щ (shch) in this lastname with ш (sh). No idea where did it even come from. The references provided are simply to the sample article and ISU page where the lastname is written as Plushenko, with no any discussion of the pronunciation at all.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.59.49.89 (talk) 11:40, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
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message: Someone should add something about his exhibition performances with his son, Alexandr  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 20:37, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Performances with son