Talk:Tux (mascot)

message: First of let me say that I am sorry if i am make a fault, or do not edit this correct, still new to editing Wikipedia..
If your read Linus Torvalds book: Just for fun by David Diamond (2001). They discuss how they came up with Tux on page 165-167.
It say that Linus was very happy for Penguins, and have been petting them before in zoo. One day someone said that Linux needed a symbol for Linux, Tove (Linus wife) then asked what about a penguin. Linus later got offered a designer to make Tux, but he never used him, one day Linus asked if there was any who could make picture of a penguin and send to him. He then choosed this one from Larry Ewing. It was important for Linus that the penguin look happy, like it just have been drinking a beer and just had some of the best sex in its life. 
I hope you can use this information, and maybe edit it into the article... Because I am still new and learning, I decided to simple just write it here instead. -- 20:34, 14 Dec 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have some of the proto-tux images somewhere if anyone thinks they would be relevant. Tux started standing up and looking quite an angry bird. The spec for the penguin from Linus included this
'Now, with penguins, (cuddly such), "contented" means it has either just gotten laid, or it's stuffed on herring. Take it from me, I'm an expert on penguins, those are really the only two options.
Now, working on that angle, we don't really want to be associated with a randy penguin (well, we do, but it's not politic, so we won't), so we should be looking at the "stuffed to its brim with herring" angle here'
Alan Cox (talk) 23:07, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  How Tux was created 

message: I think the article would be do well to include this quote. --Jonathan Drain 11:26, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  leaving this alone has horked the section counter 

message: What does the line in the 2nd para mean : "This may have been why a penguin was chosen, though." It was added by User:LittleDan (on 07:13 March 22). Does he want to say the penguin was chosen as the logo after the name Tux was chosen as the name for the logo ? Wasn't it the other way round, first the penguin was chosen and then a name given for it. --Jay 10:04, Sep 12, 2003 (UTC)
:I read somewhere, I can't remember where, that they chose a the name because it was Torvalds UniX, and then made it a penguin because it looks why they're wearing tuxedos. I may be wrong. If so, please delete it. --LDan 00:46, 14 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: My Tux web page covers all of the origin stuff in great detail.   We could move all of that stuff over here if there is some kind of consensus that it would be appropriate:   SteveBaker 22:30, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Tux? 

message: The stuff about the concepts behind tux being developed on mailing lists isn't mentioned in the article itself. Is this actually true? --Lupin 12:18, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what the artist says.  See external link cited in Tux article .  I didn't go back to the lkml to actually review what was said. --Kop 03:07, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the captions on the Tux image in Linux and Tux would be better switched, as the Tux article caption is more about Linux and vice versa.  But I've had too much back and forth about the Linux caption to want to make the change myself. --Kop 03:07, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image caption 

message: Lots of recent images seem to be based on overlord's South-Park-style tux (see the link at the bottom of the page for a translated CrystalXP forum).
Is this becoming a new unofficial standard?
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:: Since 2002 I'm seeing this Tux , I think was introduced by Red Hat.
:: Remeber this  has nothing  Tux or nothing related with Linux but an old QuickTime mascot. --Rick Browser 03:09, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A new tux? 

message: The SVG version is not the original version. This page is meant to show the original version. The SVG version is not identical to the original version. Therefore we should not use the SVG version. Instead, we will use the original version in the PNG format. Thank you. --Ysangkok 20:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  PNG vs. SVG 

message: Kindly mention something about http://slaout.linux62.org/tux/freebsd_tux.jpg
which I find just hilarious, but not apparently some people. Jidanni 16:15, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure it won’t hurt (BSD and/or FLOSS) to add the picture to Wikipedia, even to an article like Operating system advocacy, Fanboy, or Software wars. Also, I think it’d be good to find the author’s name to credit the image to. --AVRS 18:13, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are a million pictures of Tux with which we could illustrate this article most of them, better than this one - but pictures are not here as some sort of archive - that's not what Wikipedia is for. (WP:NOT is quite clear on this point).  The idea is to use images amplify the message delivered in the text.  I don't see that this one adds anything to the story - it's just vulgar and offensive for the sake of it.  It quite incorrectly depicts Linux and BSD as rivals - when in fact the two communities cooperate to a spectacular degree and there is a huge overlap in the two groups of people.  Worse still, the BSD deamon is NOT free of copyright - you can't just post it anywhere you like - getting permission from whoever painted the image isn't enough - as you can see in BSD Daemon you also need permission from Marshall Kirk McKusick to use the image (unlike Tux, for example).  So no - you are not allowed to add this image to ANY article in Wikipedia without doing quite a lot of leg-work - and even then, it would be very inappropriate in this article. SteveBaker 03:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, what I meant. --AVRS 11:13, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tux from the rear deserves mention 

message: WTH?  What is with this penguin thing?  I am looking for an article about the article of clothes, dammit! Da REAL Tony Clifton! 18:06, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be a Tuxedo.  (Sheesh!) SteveBaker (talk) 03:47, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Penguin? 

message: hmmm?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.251.194.18 (talk) 22:07, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Squeaky from Toy Story 

message: just thinking. I have gotten more than once the comment, why have you got happy feet toy on your PC. And I think that I am not the only victim of ignorant people (which in turn thought I am retarded as I have not seen a kids film). is there any reference or something funny to put in this article about that? --Squidonius (talk) 12:23, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It wouldn't be appropriate 192.155.57.91 (talk) 19:51, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Happy feet 

message: I just searched through userfriendly.org and, except for a fantasy (Star Wars parody) flashback in late '98, Tux is not a part of User Friendly.  I'm removing that reference.
--Mlvezie (talk) 21:11, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are talking of:  - which means that all you did was a text search - which is a pretty lame way to search a visual medium.  Sadly, this ain't gonna work because Tux is rarely mentioned by name.  Check out this strip from Dec 2000 for example .  Hence, I'm reverting your revert.  SteveBaker (talk) 04:00, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tux in UserFriendly 

message: This line "Age of Empires III: An RTS game produced by Microsoft. One of the random names which is assigned to explorer's dogs is 'Tux the Conqueror'.[12]", in the list of places tux has appeared, makes me think they were intending the joke to about tux the dog biscuit (also tux wonderdogs, sponsored by tux thedog biscuit company) rather than tux the penguin. Anyone else agree?
BileGhost (talk) 05:47, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I live in the Dallas area and I have two large, ravenous dogs.  I've never heard of Tux brand dog biscuits...so I doubt that's Ensemble's inspiration. SteveBaker (talk) 23:28, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tux: Wonder penguin? 

message: I noticed that this section was deleted as "Original Research and Pointless Trivia".
"In some games that star Tux, a desire for more gender neutrality has resulted in allowing the players to play as either Tux or his female friend "Gown".[13] Gown is variously depicted as being a pink version of Tux (eg XTux) or as having a somewhat less fat appearance and wearing items of clothing such as a short skirt and a hair bow (eg TuxKart and Quest for Herring). In SuperTux and SuperTuxKart, there is a different female penguin called "Penny" who is purple and white. Tux's relationship with Penny is comparable to Mario's relationship with Princess Peach as seen in Super Mario Bros."
I disagree with it being called "Original Research" as it is extremely evident in several computer games, however it may not deserve its own section. As it is part of Tux in Video Games maybe it should be in that section? Comrade Graham (talk) 22:33, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, WP:OR or not - it's certainly true.  I'm the author of TuxAQFH and TuxKart - and I can certainly attest that "Gown" was set up to be the female version of Tux - with a slightly more rounded figure and red skirt and hair bow with big white spots (somewhat inspired by Daisy Duck).  The alternative "Penny" was probably invented by the author of a short-lived game called "XTux"...who simply repainted his Tux character pink.  The "Gown" character made appearances in Super-Tux - but she was pink (or maybe purplish) like in XTux.  When the team who took TuxKart and turned it into SuperTuxKart looked at the female-penguin issue, they decided to go with the pink look in order to produce some order to the Tux mythos and standardize with the SuperTux character.  I have no clue why they went back to the original "Penny" name - particularly because they still have a racetrack called "Gown's Bow" - which is in the shape of...yep Gown's hair bow.  Personally, I prefer "Gown" because (a) Penguins aren't pink, (b) when you're designing levels for a game and you want to ensure that your lead character stands out against the background, it's a whole lot easier when both leads are roughly the same color - ergo, Tux and Gown need to look similar - but clearly distinguishable - hence the red and white skirt and bow...and (c) "Gown" is a really witty name..."Penny"...meh...it does nothing for me.  Feel free to use the image if you want it - or I can render some others from the original artwork if necessary. SteveBaker (talk) 23:25, 9 September 2008 (UTC)

text: *I think that "Gown" is dumb. "Penny" (PEN-guin) is great. Tux is looking to rescue Penny (not "gown") from Nolok. In STK, there is a Pennykart http://supertux.lethargik.org/wiki/images/c/c7/Pennykart1.png, and "Gown" is the little penguin that holds a magnet that rescues your kart. Penny is great and "Gown" is ugly. --Julius Freezer  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.118.193.91 (talk) 20:05, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gown and Penny 

message: Tux makes a Cameo in that movie. He was on a picture. --66.205.143.105 (talk) 00:17, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Surf's Up 

message: What about crux? Is he Tux too?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dbh97 (talk • contribs) 16:09, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The blue penguin logo used by the CRUX distro doesn't seem to have a special name - so I guess, still "Tux".  Crux isn't the name of the blue penguin it's the name of a lightweight Linux distro.  There is also the GNOME theme called "Crux" - but I think that's the same deal.  SteveBaker (talk) 20:55, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crux 

message: The "In Popular Culture" section of this article lists several fictional penguins named Tux.  However, as this article earlier states: "tux is also an abbreviation of tuxedo, the outfit which springs to mind when one sees a penguin."  It is one thing to find a citation that a fictional penguin is named tux, it is quite another thing to say that it is named tux _after_ the Linux mascot, as opposed to being named independently.  It would seem to me that those "in popular culture" items lacking such a citation ought to be removed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.84.35.145 (talk) 01:32, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "In Popular Culture" Sources 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In the article there's no mention that "Tux" is a minor penguin character in a 1996 game (the year Linux Tux was born). To me it's obvious that whoever created Linux Tux, just changed the design of Mario 64's character and called it a day.  TVippy  19:24, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's just a coincidence. "Tux" is a pretty obvious name for a penguin considering they are often said to resemble someone wearing a tuxedo. --2A00:23C6:CC00:7D00:2536:962:1760:9C69 (talk) 21:23, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:   How is Tux not a ripoff of Mario 64's Tux?