Talk:Aztecs/2005

message: I'd like to do a List of Aztec emperors, and a sequence template for each emperor (like we have for so many monarchs on Wikipedia – compare the thingy at the bottom of George II of Great Britain, for example). But what's the proper title to use? Aztec emperor? King of Tenochtitlan? Head of the Triple Alliance? QuartierLatin1968 06:32, 30 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: mmhhh, i think the correct title should be "Tlatoani" or speaker. Emperor or king, suggest an european point of view, with hereditary  rights. Although aztec tlatoanis came from a close set of families, they were chosen, and even deposed by they peers. I think  it´s position would be more like the old greek Dictators.  Eventually they could have became kings, but we would never knew. .  Nanahuatzin 07:22, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Great! Thanks for the clarification. Okay, how do people like the idea of a List of speakers of Tenochtitlan (following Wikipedia's dislike for untranslated terms) with redirects from places like List of Aztec emperors for the benefit of the unenlightened (like me as of ten minutes ago!). QuartierLatin1968 18:40, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it! -- Jmabel | Talk 20:34, Feb 1, 2005 (UTC)
Okay, I started doing my thing on List of speakers of Tenochtitlán only to discover midway through that we already had a small article at Tlatoani. (The labyrinth that is wiki!) This covered in substantial measure the same territory, so I eventually decided to merge my new article with it. In the meantime, all ten Tlatoani's for which we have articles now have my favourite template for successions at the bottom. :-) I think I might add little stubs for the other two Tlatoanis, for the sake of completeness. In the meantime, Tlatoani would be an excellent place to add further information on Aztec statehood. QuartierLatin1968 19:31, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)

text: Good, i did not know of that entry, i will try to provide with info on thos tlatoanis :)  Nanahuatzin 23:11, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: List of Emperors?

message: Is 'Nanahuatzin' a true aztec name?
Yes, although it would be more precise to call, a nahuatl name. :)
Nanahuatzin 07:30, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: (was a remmed-out comment on the article page) are the 'modern-day Nahuatl speakers' dealt with anywhere on Wikipedia? 
:Very cursorily on Nahuatl and Native American, nothing better than that AFAIK. Does anyone feel up to the task? –Hajor 22:21, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Modern-day?

message: The reference that was present as [This text has been deleted due to problem with spam filters] I have amended to:
* Zegura, Stephen L.; Karafet, Tatiana M.; Zhivotovsky, Lev A.' and Hammer, Michael F. High-Resolution SNPs and Microsatellite Haplotypes Point to a Single, Recent Entry of Native American Y Chromosomes into the Americas, Molecular Biology and Evolution, Vol. 21, Num. 1, p. 164-175. Originally published online on October 31, 2003. ISSN 0737-4038.
But I still don't see its relevance to this article. It might be relevant to the article Native Americans, but it does not even mention the Aztecs as such. If no one can explain in the next 48 hours, I intend to remove it from this article. -- Jmabel | Talk 02:23, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  External reference 

message: I've just read William H. Prescott's The History of the Conquest of Mexico in which many references are made to Aztec "picture-writing" which the same author calls "heiroglyphical" and states that documents written in this system are known as "maps". This doesn't seem to be mentioned in the article. I knew the Maya had a writing system, but I would like to learn more about what the Aztecs used. — Hippietrail 01:32, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: the aztec sistem was a bit more complicated... it was not as advanced as the maya, but it used pictographic, phonetic, rebus and hierogliphyc symbols, also a lot of symbols were not standard and finally it had ocult esoterics meanings. All that, because it was a system meant to be told.. not to be read. The Aztec used paper for everyday use, and more durable materials for sacred text or codex. Tenochtitlan received hundred of thousands of paper sheet as tribute.. Unfortunatlelly, of the thousands of codex form aztec libraries, only survive four... I am working on the subject... there are still several section missing, like religion phylosophy, technology, art etc...  Nanahuatzin 06:50, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Picture-writing" 

message: I redirected Aztec sacrifice here.  As you can see from the article history, a long unformatted essay (probably a cut and past from somewhere) existed there.  There might be some salvagable info to merge, if anyone is interested.  --W.marsh 20:27, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Aztec sacrifice]] 

message: Recently added "martial arts": is this really supposed to be "martial arts" (physical techniques of personal combat) or "military arts" (all techniques used in war: strategy, tactics, etc.)? -- Jmabel | Talk 02:56, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont think the military training of the aztec would qualify as a martial art... Specially as almost nothing of it is known...   :( Nanahuatzin 18:51, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "martial arts"