Talk:Animal style

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message: This is a somewhat jarring note. It seems the fast food company has their own animal style. I read the article. it looks like mainly advertising to me, but others will have to handle that article. On this article, the hatnote does look like advertising. Apart from that it appears to be a legitimate use of a hatnote. Leaving the question of the legitimacy of the burger article aside, to have burgers advertised at the top of an art article strikes me as distasteful and not in keeping with the no advertising policy. The burger article has one sentence on "the animal style" and whatever that style is there, it has not a thing to do with animals. I recommend we create a 2-item disambig and put the burger and this article in it, getting the advertising off this article. Input is welcome. Remember, unless the public speaks up, the advertisers are going to get their way.Dave (talk) 13:47, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I find the hat-note irritating too, but that solution seems to make the situation even worse, and the art is clearly the primary usage. I would leave things as they are, or perhaps drop the hatnote altogether. Johnbod (talk) 14:15, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You didn't say what you mean by "even worse." If we leave things as they are we give in to the special interests. WP has considered the issue of paid advertising to raise money this year and has decided against it. Of course a great many commercial interests have found ways to get free advertising on WP if they do it according to WP policy. We've been removing the more blatent ones. They fight like the dickens, viciously attacking any editor who dares to tamper with their free publicity. Why shouldn't they? It means income for them. I was in an issue lately over a pay site where the administrator was going to force me to say it was not a pay site or was threatening to block me. Some persons with ulterior motives are administrators. They shouldn't be, in my view, but how are you going to keep them out? We have a major issue building here as the advertisers learn how to do it on WP. I see it as on a par with the porn sites. WP features porn sites, in case you did not know it. A porn site sometimes lists WP as another porn site. Someone has to stand up against this stuff. My feeling is, if we are going to allow advertising, let's get paid for it! If we give it away a priori, why should anyone want to pay? Of course there is the possibility that some of these companies are making donations. I wouldn't know anything about that. My tendency is to think that if that is so, let's not meddle with income. However, those are not my decisions. For this article, I would much prefer to remove the hatnote. The mysterious burger animal style is in no way explained in the burger article, is only mentioned briefly, and seems to me blatent advertising. At some point I will be improving this article. If nothing else develops since you are a leaving me the option I will delete the hatnote.Dave (talk) 17:42, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The in-and out burger

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