Talk:Shankill Road bombing

message: The list of the dead from the bombing has been removed, in accordance with Wikipedia regulations, but for people interested in it, it can still be found here: Previous page version, including names--Jackyd101 17:58, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of the dead 

message: Lists of the dead are inappropriate, please see [].  You can also read the discussion here []. ---TheoldanarchistComhrá 04:25, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you wish to remove it then be my guest, I have no wish to enter into an edit war with you over this but I'd like to point out that the links you have provided totally fail to prove your point. As you would know if you actually read the text of this link, [] does not apply in this case as this is not a tribute page to "departed friends and relatives" and neither is it the "subject" of the article. Thus that rule is inappropriate in this context. Furthermore, the short and  sharp discussion you gave as you second link [] failed to demonstrate any guidelines on the policy regarding this and was concluded by an editor since banned indefinately for edit warring and incivility. This frankly makes me doubt it's conclusions and suspect that the removal of these lists of names has a sectarian motive rather than an editorial one (not making a personal comment about you, simply commenting on a  trend). For example, recently Featured Article École Polytechnique massacre quite happily contains a similar list, as does Dunblane massacre and Monash University shooting to name just two others. Only in the Northern Ireland context are such lists removed, and with very poor justification. --Jackyd101 11:23, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See your first post on this page. Also the status of an editor has nothing to do with any valid points they raised while they were editing. Brixton Busters 11:32, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Brixton BustersPlease see Talk:M62 coach bombing#==The Dead== Aatomic1 14:44, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Per Names of Omagh Bomb Victims and WP:NOT this is also purely memorial and should not be in the talk page.--Vintagekits 08:00, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of the dead 2

message: The oldanarchist has been edit warring today using an edit summary which implies that a consensus has been reached that in our encyclopaedia we should blur and muddy the distinctions between the various flavours of terrorist groups laying claim to the title of IRA. Unless someone can propose very good reasons I propose that our article errs on the side of clarity. This is an encyclopaedia not Provisional Wikipedia...Gaimhreadhan (kiwiexile at DMOZ) talk  • 14:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Obfuscation between the IRA and the Provos

message: There are objections (noted by reverts with cursory edit comments) to the addition of this article to a category regarding massacres. As no discussion has taken place, I would like to request comments on the issue. --86.12.24.209 (talk) 15:24, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Been discussed before, see Wikipedia:Irish wikipedians' notice board/Archive19. That you think the sky being blue is the same as an unsourced POV label being applied to an event is quite telling. I'm not seeing any argument in favour of inclusion, merely the false assumption that it is up to others to justify why the category shouldn't be added. 2 lines of K303 15:09, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's centralize this discussion here, rather than having multiple discussions on every one of these talk pages.  This is rather ridiculous.  But, to the matter, as Hack has said, it is up to you, anon. user, to indicate why the category is appropriate, not the other way 'round. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 15:38, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category addition 

message: The current introduction (most of which I wrote myself) reads:
The Shankill Road bombing or Shankill bomb was one of the most notorious incidents of the Troubles in Northern Ireland. It occurred on 23 October 1993 in Belfast. The Provisional IRA's intended target was a meeting of loyalist paramilitary leaders, which was to take place above a fish shop. Unbeknownst to the IRA, the meeting had been rescheduled. Shortly after entering the shop, the bomb exploded prematurely, killing the IRA operative and nine civilians.
My proposed rewording is:
The Shankill Road bombing or Shankill bomb was one of the most notorious incidents of "the Troubles" in Northern Ireland. It occurred on 23 October 1993 in Belfast. Using a time bomb, the Provisional IRA planned to assassinate a group of loyalist paramilitary leaders. The leaders were to meet in a room above a fish shop, but – unbeknownst to the IRA – this meeting had been rescheduled. Shortly after entering the shop, the bomb exploded prematurely, killing the IRA operative and nine civilians.
For the infobox, I also plan on adding "premature explosion of time bomb" rather than simply "time bomb", since the latter is misleading.Thoughts? ~Asarlaí 15:19, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing wrong with the current lead, no problem with the addition to the infobox. BigDunc 15:24, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have a major problem with it; just that it doesn't mention the use of a time bomb ("...the bomb exploded" seems to come out of the blue) or that the meeting was to take place in a room. I'll add "premature explosion" back to the infobox. ~Asarlaí 15:36, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "was one of the most notorious incidents of the Troubles" should be reworded. It's unencyclopedic and unattributed. Stu ’Bout ye! 09:46, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed rewording of introduction 

message: The article says it went off in the late afternoon, but I have read on a memorial site that it detonated at 13.03; this would make it early afternoon by any reckoning. Does anyone have a RS which can confirm the time of the explosion?--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 15:54, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Time of bombing

message: ...forgot about MRS Morrison. Very rude!
Nollaig shona daoibh!Basket Feudalist (talk) 14:41, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  And... 

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