Talk:Wrangel Island

message: Anyone around here ever heard of this?  I'll try and find the details; during the anti-Soviet Wars of the 1920s Canada's share in the "encirclement" of the communist menace was the completely useful task of seizing and holding Wrangel Island.  Why, lord knows, and how long they stayed, I can't remember; but I'll find out and be back.Skookum1 04:43, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canadian occupation during War of Encirclement 

message: Wrangel Island is not claimed by the US.  The US State Department says that the island was never claimed by the United States (http://www.state.gov/p/eur/rls/fs/20922.htm).  This is the official position of the United States government.
Of course, those familiar with John Muir might remember that he was part of an 1881 expedition by a predecessor of the Coast Guard that claimed the island for the United States (http://www.sierra-club.org/john_muir_exhibit/frameindex.html?http://www.sierra-club.org/john_muir_exhibit/writings/cruise_of_the_corwin/ -- see Chapter 15).  Four decades later, small groups of fur hunters from Canada and then the United States set up camp on the island for one year each.  But for one Inuk Indian, the Canadians perished of the cold.  The Americans were evicted by the Soviet Navy.  They were awarded compensation for their lost furs by an international court in 1959, some 35 years after the incident.  
Despite these, in December 1984, the State Department found that the United States government had never made any formal claim to the island.  The United States has maintained this position since that time.  For that reason, Wrangel Island was not addressed by the 1990 US-USSR Maritime Border Agreement.
There is misinformation regarding the status of Wrangel Island being disseminated by a right wing faction that calls itself State Department Watch.  The State Department web page linked above is the record of fact.  Competing assertions of fact by the Wall Street Journal and SDW are simply wrong.
In sum:  The United States does not claim Wrangel Island.  The State Department claims that the United States has never claimed Wrangel Island.  The 1990 Maritime Border Agreement did not specifically address the status of Wrangel Island.  Wrangel Island is in the Russian maritime zone.  The US Senate has ratified this treaty.  The USSR and Russian Federation provisionally accepted the treaty without ratification.  The United States considers the agreement to be in effect and to control US-Russian relationships on the matter. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wyokyo (talk • contribs) 18 September 2006 (UTC)
:As of 3/3/2017 the below State dept web site http://www.state.gov/p/eur/rls/fs/20922.htm DOES NOT have a page devoted to IF they owned it or not. Says page not found. So did they or not? KW — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.35.122.169 (talk) 3 March 2017‎
::State Department moved the web page here: https://2001-2009.state.gov/p/eur/rls/fs/20922.htm FelisTeeCee (talk) 03:07, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrangel not claimed by US 

message: Text of http://www.statedepartmentwatch.org/FactSheet.htm was copied & pasted here.  Replaced with link by Reuben 00:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: These claims have been added before, but they need reliable sources.  So far, the only reliable sources we have say that the US makes no claim to this island, and never has.  If you believe this is incorrect, please back up your edits with authoritative documentation. --Reuben 00:32, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wrangell Island is claimed by the USA; State Department Issues Misleading "Fact Sheet"

message: This island is spelled Wrange"ll" too.  I will go to work with the change as soon as I can.CharlesRobertCountofNesselrode 20:51, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The island, the other island, and the man have all had their names spelled with a variable number of L's.  The article titles reflect the common spellings used today, as per Wikipedia:Use common names.  Please don't change them without good reason and consensus.  --Reuben 22:30, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Who are you quoting?  That's interesting from a historical perspective.  As I noted, various spellings have been used in the past.  But it doesn't address the fact that Wrangel, with one L, has become the standard spelling of this island today.  Again, please don't move articles around without good reason and at least some attempt at consensus.  --Reuben 22:13, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Your facts seem to be a bit confused.  The naming Wrangell Island predated the Thomas Corwin landing, and the island had been discovered long before.  You can find these details in the article, with sources.  As for the Baron, he was a Baltic German aristocrat of the Russian Empire; there are several spellings of his family name.  If you romanize the Russian version, Врангель, you get Vrangel' rather than Wrangel.  Please note that Ferdinand von Wrangel's own Wikipedia article uses the single-L spelling too.  As for the spelling of the island's name, that has also been done both ways, but the current convention is to use one l for the Russian island and two ls for the one in Alaska.  The article titles reflect the common spellings used today, as per Wikipedia:Use common names. --Reuben 00:42, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling of Wrangell

message: The article is not clear on this point. What evidence of the Krachaians (Yuit Eskimos?) did Stepan Andreyev find in 1764? Ancient spear points? A Krachaian hunting camp? The article seems to imply that Wrangel was abandoned by the time of the Stefansson expiditions (1914-1921). Were the Eskimos that were persecuted by Konstantin Semenchuk in the 1930's transplants from Chukotka? I will try to find clarifying references, but some help would be appreciated. --Sungmanitu (talk) 18:49, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I've read someplace they came from Provideniya Bay; if I come across the ref I'll add it. Dankarl (talk) 16:40, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prehistoric human habitation uninterrupted until European discovery? 

message: It seems that Wrangel Island was one of the most frequently-addressed areas in State Department Cablegate leak, with almost 7.000 records. Why is the island discussed so extensively? -- Petri Krohn (talk) 20:26, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:   Wikileaks Cablegate  

message: I added a  tag after the assertion that the Island's enclaves with milder micro-climates was "unique in the high arctic".  Ellesmere Island also has enclaves with milder micro-climates.  Geo Swan (talk) 13:09, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I deleted the sentence. Dankarl (talk) 00:19, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  enclaves with milder microclimates 

message: http://www.cbc.ca/hamilton/news/story/2013/03/18/hamilton-reviving-extinct-species-in-reach.html
Hendrik Poinar claims that the most recent surviving mammoths died about 3000 years ago, not 4000-4500 years ago, as stated in the Wrangel Island article. (added 10:07, 6 June 2013‎ by user:Nickleus) ‎
:I don't think a popular press account of one throwaway line in a lecture is citeable for that date, but it would be interesting to know where he got his estimate. Dankarl (talk) 12:36, 6 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "the most recent survival of all known mammoth populations" 

message: The "British, American and Rusian expeditions" section has an insert which says "The German whaler, Eduard Dallmann, landed on the Island in 1866", which is repeated from the source (here, p240). However the source also states this is "not widely known", and it turns out the source for that assetion is Dallman's own account. So I've edited the claim in the text accordingly. I trust that is OK with everyone. Xyl 54 (talk) 23:58, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dallman 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Wrangel Island. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110818073305/http://id.erudit.org/revue/etudinuit/2007/v31/n1-2/019715ar.html?lang=en to http://id.erudit.org/revue/etudinuit/2007/v31/n1-2/019715ar.html?lang=en
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 10:14, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The claim is made "Forest occupies about 15% of the island's area." There is no citation for this. Given the cold climate, it would be surprising if there was any forest on the island. Does anyone know for sure? 110.145.170.78 (talk) 04:48, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flora and Fauna 

message: Hi X1\
Thanks for the suggestion. I am not aware of any Finnish readers working on this article.  Could we interest you in joining us? or if not, could you put a list of the points of difference on the talk page, preferably along with the reference numbers from the Finnish article? Dankarl (talk) 02:24, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe my Suomi proficiency would be so poor as to be insulting, and not of any use as a translator.  My interest was sparked by automated translation.  If I get an opportunity, I will though see if I can fish-out something of value into English later.  X1\ (talk) 01:24, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrangelinsaari 

message: Information to add to this article: Wrangel Island was not an island during the last ice age, during which time sea levels were 400 feet lower than they are today. Wasn't it part of Beringia (the Bering Land Bridge)? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 05:21, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: It wasn't an island during the last ice age

message: The last map inside the infobox shows a blank area of ocean, with no island in it. Paulmlieberman (talk) 15:11, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox error