Talk:Jarral

message: Some staight forward materials are now provided which hopfully will not violate anything.
Kind regards
--Raja 21:31, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I am unaware of any major role played by non-Gilgiti or Chitrali officers in the Gilgit revolt. I am certain that the two gentlemen mentioned were in the Kashmir State forces, and may have taken part in the revolt, but they did not paly instrumental roles.
:Considering one of them arrested the Governor Brigadier Ghansara Singh I'd call that a significant role. Certainly no officer of insignificance can claim such a feat> Col Hassan Khan was a decorated soldier of his time. YOu certainly need to do some research on this affair with the defence journals Fred,  --Raja 09:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Now if you actually read the paragraph, it stated a small group, amongst MANY groups. The revolt comprised of many tribes, and the such is clearly mentioned.--Raja 09:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Well your points above have been clarified as not well read, can you offer contrary evidence? Seeing as references have been shown on the page, below --Raja 09:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I'd heartily recommend you to do the same seeing as this page is completely sourced ;-) --Raja 09:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gilgit 

message: Is the correct name Jarral, as the title of the article reads now, or Jaraal, as a newer editor entered?  If the latter, and it can be cited and referenced, the article should be moved to a new page with the correct name, and an appropriate redirect created.  If the former, the page bears watching for inappropriate and inaccurate changes.
I also reverted a large amount of unreferenced and unencyclopedic material, added at the same time as the name changes.  I try very, very hard not to bite the newcomers, but I still have to keep an eye on verifiability and proper sourcing and referencing.  So if you're the one who added that material, be bold and add it again...just make sure to cite the references you use!  --Alan (talk) 16:08, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct name? ...and other issues 

message: I have noticed that a particular IP address from Saudi Arabia is deleted above mentioned sections from this page. Please before you delete anything can you please, as a common curtesey,state your reasons for doing so. This information was provided to give readers, from all walk of life, a general understanding of Jarral history as well as the diverse fields that they adopted as a profession. 
Kind regards
Tariq Nazir Jarral  —Preceding unsigned comment added by TariqJarral (talk • contribs) 05:27, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to Jarral Personalities section Education/Police/ Science 

message: This article still needs a huge clean up. I have removed some of the more egregious stuff but, honestly, unless someone can turn the list of sources into proper citations (with page numbers, ISBNs, links etc where appropriate) then about 80% of what remains will also be deleted. - Sitush (talk) 19:23, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up 

message: I've just reverted the additions made by User:Sohanjaryal for several reasons. A lot of it was irrelevant and not about the Jarral people at all, some of what was relevant was a straight copy from other Wikipedia articles, and what was actually new was completely unsourced. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 08:53, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverted 

message: I have just reverted again. Please do not restore poor old versions of this article, nor add original research. Raj sources, for example, are nearly always unreliable and any source that is added needs to be referenced in a decent manner (see WP:Citing sources for details). - Sitush (talk) 20:11, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverted again 

message: Is there any evidence to show that the Jarral are not native to the Kashmir region? :Category:Kashmiri tribes seems entirely appropriate unless this is so, and even then it might be appropriate because the category is vague in scope. - Sitush (talk) 10:54, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Now this depends on what this category Kashmiri Tribes is meant for. By your standard, even the Gujjars that live in Kashmir valley then must be classified as a Kashmiri tribe, but it is not so. In general terms Kashmiri tribes would refer to ethnically Kashmiri people and Jarral are not one of them. They originate in Punjab.Saqiboberoi (talk) 11:14, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Precisely. The category needs to be defined. So go start a discussion about that somewhere. Until you do, it is valid here. - Sitush (talk) 11:19, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It is very much self defined by it's title "Kashmiri Tribes". For any who has some understanding of the ethnic groups of the region will know that it is a non-kashmiri tribe. The category Punjabi Tribes has also been added to the article. So which category does it belong to? These two categories are not identical.Saqiboberoi (talk) 11:25, 13 September 2015 (UTC)

text: Also there are scores of non-kashmiri castes and tribes in the region of Azad Kashmir(Pakistan) and Jammu & Kashmir(Inida). If we go by defining all of them as Kashmiri Tribes then you need to place all of them in this category including Dogras, Gujjars, Jatts, etc. This would actually defeat the purpose of have the "Kashmiri Tribes" category and will be misleading and create confusion.Saqiboberoi (talk) 11:37, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The source doesn't actually say what ethnicity these people are. It merely notes that they appear in the Rajauri area. Anyway, I've opened a discussion at the category talk page and I have flagged it at WT:INB. - Sitush (talk) 11:42, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kashmiri tribes