Talk:History of the Royal Canadian Air Force

message: Didn't RCAF participate in the ferry service?  Trekphiler 10:00, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: You're not elves

message: Why was the low vis roundel removed from the article?  The RCAF - Roundels page seems to show one on there... And so does the markings section of the 2005 edition of Jane's Aircraft Recognition Guide. J.P.Lon 14:48, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The low-vis roundel was never used by the RCAF (which existed until unification of the services in Feb 1968). The low-vis roundel was and is still being used, however, by the CAF (Canadian Forces Air Command), which was what Canada's air force was called after Feb. 1968. This WP article is only about the RCAF (1924 - 1968). The Canadian Air Force has its own page where the roundel could properly be illustrated. The RCAF.com page webmaster has taken a broader approach in what he includes in his website and has decided for some reason to include post-unification (CAF) information and symbols for historical reasons. The RCAF - Roundels page does label the roundel as CAF (post-unification) rather than RCAF. BC 18:19, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Roundels

message: I've prepared some userboxes for different Air Forces freaks - if you would like to use it, feel free to copy & paste following code in your Babel Tower or another place:
	
	
	
Piotr Mikołajski 07:19, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice design, but those are post RCAF roundels.  They would be perfect for CAF editors.  Could you re-do the design with a 50's-era RCAF roundel?--64.201.38.62 13:54, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've posted one completely new and one older improved userboxes. Unfortunately there is no other Canadian roundel so I'm limited to those two. Regards, Piotr Mikołajski 16:51, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: From :  "in 1965 the eleven point, stylized maple leaf of the new national flag became the centre-piece of Canada's roundel", which means that the high-vis roundel was used for a period of three years with the RCAF.--BC 23:08, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have the particulars right at hand, but from memory -- This roundel may have been used right at the end of the RCAF era.  Initially, the 11 point maple leaf roundel had a smaller maple leaf -- In fact, I think the small maple leaf was a 'stickie' on a white background that went over the old 1950s roundel.  There was also a brief interval (circa 1967) when the roundel had the proportions of the modern roundel, but had a *red* outer circle.  I know some of the CC-106 Yukons got painted with these.  Finally, they went to the modern one.  There's no precise timing for this, and likely at unification, you could see all kinds of variations.  I guess the easiest summary would be that the big, 11 point maple leaf was in service at the very end of the RCAF era.  But the 'silver maple' roundel is really more representative of the 'classic' era of the RCAF.--Voodude 16:24, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Userbox 

message: To Whom is reading this post:
I am looking for a man named WILFRED SMITH. He was Sworn in to the Canadian Armed services in November or December of 1968. His father was an Anglican Minister and he spent some of his childhood in P.E.I.
His basic training in the Armed forces was in Cornwallis, Nova Scotia. From there he was posted in Cold Lake Alberta, where he also trained as a cook. He was discharged from the services in May 1970.
Last Known where abouts was a phone call from him from Halifax Nova Scotia 1971.
If anyone knows Wifred Smith or how to get in touch with him..please contact my dad William Trimble who served with Wilfred Smith in Cornwallis, N.S by emailing him at scamp1949@hotmail.com.
Thank you
Tamara Trimble  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.224.217.85 (talk) 23:45, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it possible to find people from the past who were in the air forces in 1968-69?? 

message: The Wikipedia article for Grey Cup Champions mentions the "Toronto RCAF Hurricanes" as the winners or the 1942 Grey Cup. Does anyone have information about them? Monado (talk) 02:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lots of info if you Google. BC (talk) 17:47, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Toronto RCAF Hurricanes football team? 

message: I think an image of the RCAF tartan would complete the Symbols and insignia section. Anyone know where to get one we could use?-BC (talk) 20:25, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tartan 

message: According to insignia expert Bill Burns in London Ont. (http://www.canmilair.com), all incarnations of the current 11-point-leaf roundel , including those used in the transition period 1965-67, are known as the CAF roundel to distinguish it from the "RCAF roundel" which has a different leaf pattern (the silver maple leaf). The current CAF roundel (with the 11-pointed leaf) was standardized in May 1967 because after 1965, there were so many versions of it.  This standard (current) design (purists refer to it as the "CAF revision E" roundel) has changes made to various internal spacing and has a comparatively wider blue circle and larger leaf than the 1965-67 version used in the transition era, and is certainly a different design from the silver maple roundel (the true "RCAF" roundel). There are also subtle color differences. BTW, the  RCAF roundel is copyrighted by the Air Force Association of Canada. The following links have more information: http://www.canmilair.com/prints.htm and http://www.canmilair.com/products.asp?cat=77. -BC (talk) 23:25, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  RCAF and CAF Roundels (for reference) 

message: A list of RCAF aircraft has been started here. Since the RCAF article is getting long and since there already is a list of Canadian Air Force aircraft  (that could be reorganized to separate out the aircraft used by each incarnation of Canada's air force), I feel that this new list included here is redundant. Also, if a list of aircraft is included here, we may as well include a list of stations and squadrons - all of which also already exist. All these lists are linked to in this article, so there is no reason to relist them here. I vote we should not include the aircraft list. Opinions?  BC  talk to me 00:34, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree I have removed it again. MilborneOne (talk) 08:44, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Although it's interesting that Canadian Forces Air Command includes a list even though there is a separate list of Air Command aircraft, and the same aircraft are listed here: Canadian Air Force aircraft. I still think a list in this article is redundant, however.--  BC  talk to me 19:34, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aircraft list, etc. 

message: The tartan section explaining its origins was recently changed to an uncited "verified correct version". This was lifted verbatim (copyvio) from a government web site that would seem to be reputable. The government web site the lifted content was from is by no means reliable as a source; I have seen errors, and indeed some information on the government site has been lifted from Wikipedia (e.g. CFB Edmonton).  This story has been around for years and cannot necessarily be considered to be "verified" (how would you do this unless you do some OR). Is it true that G/C Fullerton, colored pencils in hand, drew the prototype and that Loomcrofters in Gagetown completed it? It's a nice story, but unless this is truly verified we have to go with the "most reliable" information on hand. The best I can find right now is from an authority on tartans, which is the http://www.tartansauthority.com/tartan-ferret/display/1343/royal-canadian-air-force-military. This site essentially repudiates the popular story of who the designer was. Loomcrofters may have put together some prototype samples which led to the story that it was designed by them, but the Tartan Authorities web site is clear that it was actually designed by Kinloch Anderson in Scotland. The story here is much more credible to me.  BC  talk to me 16:42, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tartan origin

message: Does the RCAF really use the RAF rank names?  I have a National Defence Canadian Forces Rank Insignia pamphlet that lists the Air Forces ranks as (from lowest to most senior): Private, Corporal, Master Corporal, Sergreant, Warrant Officer, Master Warrant Officer, Chieft Warrant Officer, Officer Cadet, 2nd-Lieutenant, Lieutenant, Captain, Major, Lieutenant-Colonel, Colonel, Brigadier-General, Major-General, Lieutenant-General, General.  IE, exactly the same as the army.70.49.247.2 (talk) 03:34, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ranks 

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message: On 15 Aug 2011 news agencies published the return of the Royal Canadian Air Force (RCAF) along with the Royal Canadian Navy (RCN) and Canadian Army. According to a Globe and Mail editorial the official announcement is on 16 Aug 2011. The change is purely symbolic and the Canadian Forces will remain integrated with the component parts returning to their original names. This brings Canada's military structure into line with the other Commonwealth Realms as well as providing a link to the past.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.236.229.36 (talk) 00:13, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-establishment of the RCAF

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