Wikipedia talk:Tambayan Philippines/Archive 3

message: Someone marked Dasalan at Tuksuhan for English translation. People were confused at first as to what language it was. [Should I be writing this request somewhere else? It's already listed under pages needing translation into English. --TheBoompsy 06:36, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You did the right thing. Thanks. --Jondel 07:43, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: English translation of ''Dasalan at Tuksuhan''?

message: In the Starship Troopers novel by Robert A. Heinlein, Juan Rico, the protagonist, is a Filipino or of a Filipino family. --Jondel 09:36, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, the character in the film wasn't Pinoy eh. Seems that the original novel would be an interesting read, since it has more diverse characters. --Noypi380 16:21, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also, one of the ships used by the Earth fleet is named after Ramon Magsaysay. RashBold Talk 16:34, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Starship Troopers'' Trivia 

message: An article on yesterday's stampede at the Philsports Arena is currently on VfD. Your votes are appreciated.
:The article is saved. It is now agreed that it be called PhilSports Arena stampede. Pls contribute if you can. --Noypi380 17:43, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  VfD: Pasig City stampede 

message: Pls vote here in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Philippine Cyberservices Corridor, and a related article Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cyberservices --Noypi380 11:52, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There was no consensus, so status quo. --Noypi380 03:06, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Although it is status quo, I wonder how we can integrate both the "current" corridor and the "future" corridor into one article.  It seems to me like a very interesting project.  --Akira123323 12:50, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well yes it is interesting, but I still have some issues with it when it appeared. Due to the lack of consensus, I think the safest thing to do is to let that article grow in content first, regardless of what it is really talking about, although I think it should be written in a way that suggests a planned "future" corridor is in the process of construction. Also, it should not definitely proclaim that something is there when it is in fact not there, coz our RP IT/BPO services workers know that they are not part of any "current" corridor, regardless of POV. :) --Noypi380 03:27, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  VfD: [[Philippine Cyberservices Corridor]] 

message: Okay, so I got started on a project to document the Banco de Oro-Equitable PCI Bank merger.  Apparently, my lack of resources prohibits me from getting more information on this topic that is shaking up the Philippine banking industry.  Help is very much appreciated.  --Akira123323 14:34, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmmm....I think that article has more than enough data already. Just some tweaking and some updates would be enough, then the article can stabilize after the merger. ;) --Noypi380 02:12, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The BDO-EPCIB merger

message: The Tagalog Wikibook is undergoing maintenance to reorganize it and to put it to higher standards.  As such, much content will be put in, and this is a very big undertaking.  Please help.  Thanks.  --Akira123323 13:49, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tagalog Wikibook maintenance

message: *Make the Demographics article quantitative as far as possible. Remove descriptions of ethnicities, languages. If people want to know what Aeta or Taglog or mestiso means, they can go to the main articles of these topics. This seems to be consistent with other demographics articles.
*Simplify the intro
**Racial
**Linguistic
**Cultural/Religious/Political
*Move the History section to Ethnic groups of the Philippines
*Modify the Ethnic Groups in accordance to the discussion in WP:TAMBAY#Filipino_is_beyond_ethnicity
**What name do you suggest to encompass the 'lowland Austronesian-speaking groups'? I also suggest that you put into account the old demographic sources that User:Al-Andalus has removed. So far, he heas removed everything that is contradictory to his point of view. He also removed one source dating to the Spanish times that shows that 35% of the population of Luzon was Spanish-Filipino Mestizo. :) --Matthewprc 02:53 03 February 2005 (UTC)
:Please take a look at the long (and now archived) conversation about this some weeks ago…http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tambayan_Philippines/Archive_2#Filipino_is_beyond_ethnicity --Nino Gonzales 03:02, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Demographics of the Philippines

message: Principles:
*Proportionality. Larger (e.g., Tagalogs) or significant (Chinese commercially, Spanish historically) should get more space than almost invisible minorities like Indonesians or Malaysians
*Filipino is beyond ethnicity (see WP:TAMBAY#Filipino_is_beyond_ethnicity)
Outline
*Intro (broad description) 
*History (from Demographics)
*Ethnic groups (north to south? for each group: size; location; language/s; culture; some special thing about them… e.g., commercial role of the Chinese; a picture of a member of that ethnicity)
**Ilokano (pic of Marcos)
**Kapangpangan (pic Arroyo?)
**Pangasinense (pic of Ramos)
**Tagalog (pic of Rizal)
**Bikolano (Raul Roco)
**Bisaya (Hiligaynon, Cebuano, Waray, etc.) (Pedro Calungsod)
**Moro (A datu)
**Mountainfolk (Igorot, Lumad, etc.) (a Negrito, a Lumad in traditional garb)
**Chinese, Chinese mestiso (Lucio Tan and Kris Aquino)
**Spanish, Spanish Mestiso (An Ayala and a mestiso actor)
**Other minorities (American, Koreans, South Asians, etc)
Suggestions? --Nino Gonzales 01:02, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, Kapampangan… my mistake. It seems Moro or Muslim Filipino is more appropriate. It seems that Bangsamoro refers to the “nation” and not to the person. It seems it is equivalent to Katagalugan or Kabisay-an rather than Tagalog or Bisaya...--Nino Gonzales 03:00, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My mistake too!...But recently, more and more Muslim Filipinos refer to themselves as the 'Bangsamoro'.--User:Matthewprc 01:04, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Oppose.  No one uses "Austronesian-Southern Chinese", this goes against avoiding the use of neologisms here. I'll say it again, use either "ethnic Filipinos" or "native Filipinos." :-) --Chris S. 13:51, 3 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Your ideas are great! However, Al-Andalus has mutilated several articles, such as the Demographics of the Philippines (by erasing a vast number of other sources), Filipino people (by periodically erasing Spanish from the list of related ethnic groups), the Philippines, and Ethnic Groups of the Philippines. And we remove the term Austronesian-Southern Chinese and replace it with other terms...--User:Matthewprc 01:04, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ethnic groups of the Phil

message: *Filipino
There are different definition. I admit that some define Filipino in terms of race, but I don’t know of any mainstream scholar who defines Filipino in terms of race. Agoncillo and Nick Joaquin does NOT define Filipino in terms of race. I suggest we avoid defining it; neither explicitly nor implicitly (through some sort of segregation). If we insist in defining it, the several generally accepted POV’s should be represented.
*Ethnicity
From its wikipedia article, it does not (only) mean race, or linguistic grouping
**Ok! Pero, American (120.000), South Asian (50,000), and Korean (22,000) are very large enough to warrant their own section. Do you think so?
:::If the major ethnic groups get a section and they are in the millions (even the "full blooded" Chinese are in the millions), maybe ethnicities in the hundred thousands or ten thousands could get subsections in a "minorities" section... or get several sentences... particularly the Americans due to their role in Filipino history, or South Asians due to some Hindu influence in Filipino culture, or to Koreans who have lately been very visible due to English schools and Koreonovelas... how does that sound? --Nino Gonzales 14:31, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Terms

message: If we want to make this article quick and crisp, I think we need to select what are the most important details we would want to include. I think all ethnicities should have the following details:
*location
:Maybe better to make it broad (e.g., Ilocanos are the inhabitants of the lowlands and coastal areas of northern Luzon. vs. The Ilocano are found in the original Ilocano provinces of Ilocos Sur, Ilocos Norte, La Union) 
*language/s and number of speakers
*religion
And for specific ethnicities
*Ilocano
:tendency to migrate
:presence in Hawaii
:Philippine Independent Church
*Kapampangan
:The Tagalog-Kapampangan role during the Spanish era
:reliable soldiers of the Spanish colony
*Tagalog
:Manila
:The national language
:Role in Philippine history
*Bisaya
:The largest are the speakers of Cebuano, Hiligaynon, Waray-Waray
:Bisaya vs. Binisaya
*Moro
:The largest groups: Tausug, Maguindanao, Maranao
:Unconquered by Spanish
:Continuing struggle for various degrees of self-determination?
*Tribal groups
:Coldillera, Palawan, Mindanao hilltribes
:Least influenced by Islamic, Christian, Hispanic and American cultures
*Chinese
:Commercial role
:Chinese mestizo role in the development of the Filipino nation
*Spanish
:Christianity
:Cultural influence
:A lot of mestizos in former agriculture centers, showbiz?
What do you think?--Nino Gonzales 15:03, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Level of detail

message: This article is up for PRODing, aka. not-quite-speedy deletion. Alphax τεχ 06:05, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PROD: [[Cartimar]] 

message: The articles in this category are a mess. The articles look like a press release or a propaganda thingy rather than an encyclopedia article. What should we do? Also, some Wikipedians (who are apparently fans of these programs) are stubborn and would revert to their own crappy version. Any thoughts? Howard the Duck 08:37, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I agree wholeheartedly. I am not certain however with the other wikipedians. It would be difficult to revert in these matters, as there is a clear and obvious intention of promotion with the contributors. I suggest the best course of action it to spread important wiki ideas to the contributors themselves like (1) wikipedia must have encyclopedic articles, (2) wikipedia is not for propaganda, and (3) wikipedia encourages NPOV, etc. Once the contributors realize these themselves, they themselves will be more productive, and critical of what they have written, or shouldn't have written. Finally, providing them links to Wikipedia:Welcome, newcomers and the like helps alot. Contributors usually get excited in writing without reading up on such things, I know I was when I started. Even some of us experienced ones also forget. :) (ahem, ahem) Hope that helps. :) --Noypi380 02:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Category:Television shows in the Philippines]]

message: Perhaps we can create this article, just like 2005 in Australia. Circa 1900 03:16, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Go ahead. :) Very, very relevant potential article. You can end the article with the December film festival, etc. --Noypi380 02:20, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hope you don't mind, started it already for you, 2005 in the Philippines, 2003 in the Philippines, and 2000 in the Philippines. :) --Noypi380 03:51, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks, I was lazy these past days. Circa 1900 04:14, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Lazy from wiki? Pwede ba yn? Hahaha Maybe lazy from actual work or job? hehehe ;) --Noypi380 03:34, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

text:  Lol, perhaps both. I've also created the 2006 in the Philippines article. Circa 1900 05:47, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[2005 in the Philippines]]

message: So, I was in a department store last Saturday when I stopped by a rack of newspapers to look at the headlines-- and lo and behold, on the front page of the Cebu Daily News, I find my locator map of Saint Bernard, Southern Leyte. It had some modifications to show the other cities and municipalities. It gave no credit to me or Wikipedia (in fact, the graphics were attributed to a "Jessah Diaz"), but I guess I should be flattered. :) There's an image of the front page here. Coffee 07:52, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't guarantee but probably the CDN (which is an Inquirer affiliate) decided to give credit to whoever made the modified map rather than to who made the original.  --Akira123323 10:17, 20 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I can relate. A few months ago, I was browsing the September-October (?) issue of FU magazine and, lo and behold, I saw my  map placed in a feature article about Caylabne Bay Resort. The map was modified: the Puerto Azul location was wiped out, the Caylabne location made larger, and some highway markers (e.g. 7-11, Petron) were added. They could use it but they have to license it under the GFDL, which I don't think they have space for. I kept mum about it since it's not a big deal really (but I really would like some attribution, which the GFDL or the CC-Attribution licenses enforce). --seav 15:11, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cebu Daily News 

message: Note to admins: somebody(s) vandalized Mike Abundo. I reverted it back to the orig, but I just want you guys to know. Pls check the history of it. I'm not the expert but I think something has to be done. Lastly, is the Mike Abundo article supposed to be there? I'm not sure anymore. --Noypi380 14:22, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like vanity to me, seeing that it was made by a User:Mikeabundo. I'm gonna try this new WP:PROD thing... Coffee 02:05, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

text: -> Delete(?) --Jondel 08:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Mike Abundo agreed to userify the article.  See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mike Abundo.  --Jojit fb 08:53, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: http://news.yahoo.com/i/734;_ylt=AstpBrFDVcWtIsdd_jSTdZFvaA8F;_ylu=X3oDMTA5aHJvMDdwBHNlYwN5bmNhdA--
:That's funny. :) The Philippines has so much in common culturally, politically, and economically with Latin America that the Philippines can be called latin american in all but ethnicity, language, and geography. :) --Noypi380 00:38, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was able to travel to Mexico and it felt very much like was in the Philippines.--Jondel 06:05, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's gone. --Noypi380 12:24, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Try hacking at http://archive.org. I couldn't find the site though.--Jondel 01:02, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Philippines as Latin America

message: Google news.     --Jondel 05:25, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, or check this link. Lucio Tan, Henry Sy, and Ayala. Galing ng Pinoy! Strange that many not that famous Filipino politicians have longer articles than these businesspeople. We have to extend those articles, info anyone? ;) --Noypi380 13:06, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: We have 3 Pinoy billionaires

message: People, I know that school has a little more than 1 week left. I am planning to port at least 150-1500 articles from this Wikipedia to the Tagalog Wikipedia. Is this amenable and will I not violate any copyright laws here???
Thanks
::--Justox dizaola 01:11, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  As long as they are written in Tagalog (or Filipino if you prefer) and, if you translated it from here, give a notice at the bottom of the article that it was translated from the corresponding English article, then we are okay. -- bluemask 01:38, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh, I've translated many articles related to Universities, Jose Rizal , Katipunan etc to and from Spanish, Interlingua and others without the notice. patay kang bata ka--Jondel 02:55, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've translated a few articles myself from the English Wikipedia to the Tagalog Wikipedia without the notice, and it worked just fine.  Besides, doesn't the GFDL cover Wikipedia articles ported from one language then ported to another Wikipedia different from the original language but is translated in the process?  --Akira123323 13:13, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: P.S.: I don't think there's an inherent violation of Philippine copyright law.  --Akira123323 13:16, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

text: To my knowledge, the GFDL allows you to modify and distribute the original text but the original authors should be given attribution. I checked Wikipedia:Spanish Translation of the Week... they translate Spanish pages into English, and on the page it just says to add a references section with a line like "This article draws heavily on the corresponding article in the Spanish-language Wikipedia, which was accessed in the version of June 20, 2005". Coffee 16:38, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In meta:Transwiki, a copy of the original page history (with the dates and authors) is placed at the talk page of the new article written in the other wiki. We can also follow that to acknowledge the original authors. -- bluemask 05:36, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: I need Help Here!!!!!

message: I'm happy to announce that we have our first Philippine-related Featured List: Provinces of the Philippines was just promoted (see nomination). :) Coffee 04:27, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I couldn't agree more.  I was hoping to get started on a list of Philippine presidents (for another featured list), but I don't know where to start.  --Akira123323 09:28, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

text: There are two Philippine-related Featured Articles, but they're not featured because they're Philippine-related or as a result of Filipino efforts: Mount Pinatubo was a project of User:Worldtraveller. Battle of Leyte Gulf is also featured, but it's arguably more US/Japan-related. By the way, two of Seav's maps are Featured Pictures: :Image:Ph map manila large.png and :Image:Ph physical map.png. Coffee 16:30, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: @Akira123323: President of the Philippines already is a good start for the list of the Philippine presidents. Just improve that one. Magalhães 02:58, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually sidestepped that project for the time being to improve the article on the LRT, which I put up for peer review.  --Akira123323 06:05, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

text:  I'd recommend taking a look at the List of Presidents of the United States article so we can apply the same to the President of the Philippines list. Howard the Duck | talk, 10:47, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  See User:Howard the Duck/Presidents for developments. You can edit it too. List of Presidents of the Philippines. Howard the Duck | talk, 12:47, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured list: Provinces of the Philippines 

message: Okay, while I like the new Philippine city infobox, it seems that city seals get cut off near the bottom (check Manila for an example).  I wonder how this can be fixed.  --Akira123323 02:16, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: City infobox (again)

message: I've listed PINAS FIRST (a Austrian-based Philippine organization) and its sister articles on WP:AFD. Voice out your opinions as you wish. I may not be able to respond until Sunday because I'll be taking a wikivacation during the Holy Week. Howard the Duck | talk, 16:09, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AFD: [[PINAS FIRST]] 

message: Hi Philippine Wikipedians,
I wanted to let you know I'll be giving a presentation at a conference in Manila on Wikipedia and wikis, and I though it might be a good time for Philippine-based Wikipedians wanted to meet, and also to meet some other prominent Internet-researchers who are fans of Wikipedia. Conference details for "Free Expression in Asian Cyberspace: A Conference of Asian Bloggers, Podcasters and Online Media" can be found here: .
I'm also interested in talking to Wikipedians because I am doing research on a book about Wikipedia, and am interested in Asia stories. Please drop me a line if interested, either on my talk page or by email. Thanks. -- Fuzheado | Talk 23:53, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems only few of us are based here in Manila. But this would be a good occasion to get more Pinoys to contribute to Wikipedia.--Nino Gonzales 11:01, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I went to the conference yesterday. Fuzheado gave a good intro to Wikipedia. Some big names in Phil media were there. I hope they'd write about what they learn and encourage more Filipinos to start contributing to Wikipedia.--Nino Gonzales 01:42, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Me too. i agree with seav. aaarrgh :( --Noypi380 11:53, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

text: The next best thing? http://freeexpressionasia.wordpress.com/ It has some videos and audios of the event..--Nino Gonzales 12:11, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia and Manila, around April 20 

message: Hi! Why does the Filipino article lack an 'Ancestry' section? Other 'People' articles do have those. Is it because there are not much genetic sudies on the origins of Filipinos? = )   11:37, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please feel free to add. Be Bold.--Jondel 01:41, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Filipino People]]

message: Okay, I might not be properly aware of this, but someone tagged the article on ABS-CBN a copyvio.  Although I'm not sure what's the basis (especially because ABS-CBN's website is one giant portal with no definite location of the purported copyvio), I'm hoping to get help on salvaging the ABS-CBN articles and images so that they can be used in the supposedly "new" article, if needed.  --Akira123323 15:18, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's weird... this guy tagged it as a copyvio but "signed" it with a different username and date. I can't find any evidence of the article being a copyvio, so I'm removing the tag and delisting it. That guy seems to mostly edit GMA-related articles, so tagging the ABS-CBN article as a copyvio was probably bad faith edit. Coffee 16:48, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Tsk, tsk. BAD faith edit. Why did he/she do it? See reminders. :) --Noypi380 14:53, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[ABS-CBN]] copyvio

message: I have been seeing the green e in esperanza members' usernames... why don't we implement that here? like a red "t" (for tambay)... so that other users who may know something about Philippine-related topics may contribute something. What do you think? Howard the Duck | talk, 04:53, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On the side people, pls visit List of Presidents of the Philippines. It was mostly made by User:Howard the Duck, (galing mo pare!). It is already a featured list candidate, so pls leave your comments here. I think its good, what do you people think? --Noypi380 06:19, 30 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Add two pogi points to Howard the Duck for his List of Presidents! Keep up the good work!--Jondel 13:42, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hey, I don't even look that good! LOL. --Howard the Duck | talk, 12:36, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well this is a good thing: this list is now a featured list!  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 13:40, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yay! (Delayed reaction) --Howard the Duck | talk, 15:21, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion 

message: This article is up for deletion. Please express your view in the vote.--Jondel 05:56, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I do think he's not notable. But I could be wrong... --Howard the Duck | talk, 08:49, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Please do not feel obligated to vote 'support'. Vote delete (or support)if you feel you should.--Jondel 11:50, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Kiwi Alejandro Camara]]

message: So, I was just reading the Signpost and was happily surprised to see that List of NCAA Philippines basketball champions was featured in the past week (see nomination). This effort was apparently spearheaded by User:Circa 1900. Good job! Coffee 04:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I've been scouring the candidates pages of featured content lately. I've even caught National Collegiate Athletic Association (Philippines) in WP:FAC. Trying to see which can be included in this list. --Howard the Duck | talk, 08:49, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed that one too... though I don't want to vote on it, since I feel like I'd be supporting it just because it's a Philippine-related article. :p Good luck to that.. Coffee 16:43, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: An appeal: Can anyone copyedit the NCAA article? And by that I mean big bad copyediting. Since its on FAC, we might as well develop it, right? --Howard the Duck | talk, 02:39, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Development: I checked FAC and saw that the NCAA nomination failed.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 04:02, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another featured list: NCAA basketball champions 

message: Question. Can anyone distinguish the two terms? How are the two related. Is one part of the other? I read publicity and wikipedia:notability but I would prefer more input from everybody. This is for understanding notability arguments during AfDs. :) --Noypi380 00:04, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not quite sure, but for something to be notable it has to be publicized, although it's not always the case.  Something can be notable if it's forgotten and remembered again, but then again, it got publicized.  Probably they have some weird connection or something like that.  --Akira123323 03:14, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I was just getting confused. ;) --Noypi380 14:50, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Publicity vs. Notability 

message: I've listed The Best of Philippine entertaiment at AFD here. Have your say whether to delete the article or not. --Howard the Duck | talk, 14:52, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article has been deleted. --Howard the Duck | talk, 16:14, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AFD: [[The Best of Philippine entertaiment]] 

message: The discussion is here. Voice out your opinion on saving or deleting. --Howard the Duck | talk, 16:08, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is saved. --Howard the Duck | talk, 16:14, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AFD: [[Barbie Almalbis]] 

message: I have written to Mr. Jimmy Wales about the difficulties our community is facing. Please be ready to recieve anything Mr. Jimmy will say in the tambayan. Also, be ready for suggestions on how to improve our community. MABUHAY ANG REBOLUSYONG WIKIPEDIANO SA PILIPINAS!!!!!!!! MABUHAY ANG WIKIPEDIA!!!!!! MABUHAY ANG PILIPINAS!!!!!!!! Justox dizaola 15:58, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you share your letter? What are these difficulties?--Nino Gonzales 10:41, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ATTENTION!CQD!!SOS!!! 

message: Okay, this is an admitted first, but I have put up the LRT for featured article candidacy status (admitted self-nomination).  You can find the link here.  --Akira123323 10:21, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Manila Light Rail Transit System|LRT]] featured article nomination 

message: Although I do not normally stay up very late, I would like to announce that as of today (May 15, 2006), we now have our first Philippine-related featured article (that actually meets the standards of a Philippine-related article as set out before): the Manila Light Rail Transit System.  We can all be proud of this.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 18:08, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But you know, the MLRTS article was the first one done under the auspices of Wikipedia:Tambayan Philippines. So congratulations to all. --Ancheta Wis 22:27, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it may not be the very first Philippine-related FA (third overall admittedly), but still, we can proud of it.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 00:27, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well then its the first Philippine-related FA nominated by a Filipino. --Howard the Duck | talk, 12:14, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Thanks.  Anyway, I'm putting up the LRT article for tomorrow's featured article status.  I listed June 12 (we all know that date) or October 29 (the day when the LRT network was completed).  Any alternate dates?  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 13:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Announcement: a first

message: Cueshe is a very vandal prone article of a Filipino band. It's like the George W. Bush of Filipino music... hehe... Hope you could help keep watch.--Nino Gonzales 12:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well then, you haven't seen the Pinoy Big Brother series of articles before we cleaned it up (lol). Might as well add it to the watchlist. --Howard the Duck | talk, 13:58, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, although I personally find it odd that people would vandalize the Cueshé article.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 14:01, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Guess what? A vandal just vandalized the article. Hahaha --Howard the Duck | talk, 14:40, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I decided to trace the vandal's IP address (210.213.91.17) and well this is just shameful.  The so-called Cueshé vandal (as per above) is from the Philippines...he's using PLDT Vibe too.  Oh yeah, he vandalized again.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 15:04, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted the vandalism (again), but still, this is just odd.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 15:07, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Blocking him/her won't do good. His/her IP changes everytime he/she disconnects. --Howard the Duck | talk, 15:21, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll try tracing the IPs, though I really have the feeling the vandal is a Filipino (or at least someone in the Philippines with an Internet connection).  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 15:24, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Okay, according to the traceroute program that came with my router, all the suspected vandal IPs are all PLDT addresses except one, which I think is Globe.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 15:33, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't get it. Sure, someone in his right mind can violate the Gloria Macapagal Arroyo article, but the Cueshe article?--Howard the Duck | talk, 15:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the user has an in-bred hate for Cueshé, although of course, I'm not a crystal ball.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 15:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

text: The user uses dynamic IP. It might have collateral damage. I might not even log in hehehe. --Howard the Duck | talk, 04:37, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You can try, but I have the feeling that other PLDT Vibe users could be affected from the block, unless the person vandalizes in one sitting using one IP address.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 04:39, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

text: That can work.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 04:43, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

text: How about semi-protect? Since the vandal/s is/are mostly anons? --Howard the Duck | talk, 04:51, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I'll try monitoring the page tonight.  I'm still surprised over all these anonymous anti-Cueshé edits.  --Akira Say what? | Track record 11:24, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cueshe

message: I have now reverted the article's content pre-copyvio. Now some guy is reverting it to its copyvio state. I hope the admins maybe present in case of WP:3RR --Howard the Duck | talk, 15:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably the person is a student at the Pamantasan?  I don't know.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 15:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The person has stopped reverting. I've warned him/her about 3RR. Perhaps the person's waiting for the 24-hour limit to expire hehehe... --Howard the Duck | talk, 02:35, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The person began reverting it again. --Howard the Duck | talk, 04:03, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I've added the user on the Admins noticeboard for violation of 3RR. Although I think protection may do the trick. --Howard the Duck | talk, 04:37, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Keep an eye, though. Especially by night time. Can you also look at his IP? --Howard the Duck | talk, 09:59, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I will. seesh I don't know how to get the IP. I 'll research this.--Jondel 02:57, 18 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Then that explains the sudden appearance of User:Richard Relucio, User:PLM Community, User:PLM Scholar, User:PLMayer, User:PLM Kid, User:Pamantasan and User:PLM Alumni. --Howard the Duck | talk, 05:00, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Judging by the usernames involved, this person has to be from said university.  But of course, while the person may have good intentions about the promulgation of the Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Maynila on the Wikipedia (pictures and all), I don't think the person took to account the copyright policy.  If he gets caught using the copyrighted material, I don't think he would want to be held liable under U.S. and Philippine copyright laws.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 07:49, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, it's understood that Wikipedia shoulders much of the blame for the unscrupulous editors, but its the unscrupulous editors that make Wikipedia the scapegoat in the first place.  Sometimes there are people who are just disillusioned by the concept of the "edit this page" button.  They think that they can just copy something from the Net and paste it on a Wikipedia article, which obviously is wrong.  Anonimity doesn't mean you can plagiarize and get away with it and in turn blame someone else; the same laws apply whether you plagiarize on paper or plagiarize on the Net.  If he/she/they is/are caught using that material on the Web, and the material and the contributor(s) can be traced back to the source and the person, the person(s), not Wikipedia, should be liable for their actions.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 03:12, 20 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Depends.  I think it should be analyzed if the material is indeed legitimate first before considering blocking the user or the sock puppets.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 09:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

text: As of now, the sockpuppets may not be blocked. Just examined the changes. Also, perhaps they're "meatpuppets." --Howard the Duck | talk, 11:08, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WP:COPYVIO: [[Pamantasan ng Lungsod ng Maynila]]

message: this article could use some work: Hanunóo --Dangerous-Boy 22:43, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So work on it? ;-)  This article needs to be split up in to three topics: the Hanunoo people, the Hanunoo language, and the Hanunoo script.  --Chris S. 04:50, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Hanunóo]] 

message: Hello there. We are having a straw poll on who to include in the collage that would be in the article. Please do join the discussion. --Howard the Duck | talk, 08:56, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The relevant discussion is at Talk :Ethnic groups in the Philippines. The poll ends on June 12. --Howard the Duck | talk, 04:45, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Talk :Ethnic groups in the Philippines]] 

message: Anyone interested: I'm looking for people willing to peer review this time the article on the Manila Metro Rail Transit System (yes, I've moved on to the MRT).  If you can, please drop off your comments here.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 10:19, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another peer review 

message: User:Weekeejames and myself are having a discussion on what map should be used on the Zamboanga City infobox. Everybody is encouraged to state their opinions on Talk:Zamboanga City. --Howard the Duck | talk, 07:33, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Zamboanga City]] 

message: Go to Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 15 to show your support or opposition. --Howard the Duck | talk, 12:43, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Addendum: I have also put up :Category:Filipino law for renaming (to the more accurate :Category:Philippine law).  Please show your support or opposition at  Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 20.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 13:00, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

text: About Foreigners category, I couldn't add my vote. Ferdinand Blumentritt never visited the Philippines so he can't belong to the proposed Expatriates in the Philippines. But this is just one exception.--Jondel 03:57, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I dunno, but I think Foreigners in the Philippines sounds better. --Howard the Duck | talk, 04:01, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Are there any precedents (that can serve as a guide?) --Noypi380 13:14, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I dunno. Although the foreigners category is turning out to be a mini-problem. Also, I've added more categories for renaming/merging at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 22. --Howard the Duck | talk, 14:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Agree. It is not rascist nor does it demean other people. Justox dizaola 08:36, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  CFD/CFR: [[:Category:Foreigners of the Philippines]], [[:Category:Filipino television directors]], [[:Category:Filipino writers]] and [[:Category:Filipino law]] 

message: I guess this website could help us a lot in providing the coordinates of the towns and cities in the Philippines — www.heavens-above.com, however it provides the coordinates in decimal format; to convert it to Degree, Minutes format try www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/convertDMS  --Scorpion_prinz | talk, 18:42, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. --Howard the Duck | talk, 08:03, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Town/City Coordinates

message: I have seen in http://www.hymns.ru/ that the Filipino language (or Tagalog) has its own translation of the Internationale. The translation is not explicitly stated there but it has a file which contains a certain choir singing the Internationale in Tagalog. Here is my question to the community which may be affected here.
:1. Will I violate any copyright rules here in the Philippines, in Russia (the site is russian based), in France (where the copyright for the song itself rests) or international copyright law?
:2. Will I violate any Philippine laws against sedition? I know this is a Communist song and it may be sedition
:3. Must i contact hymns.ru to clear it all up in case i violate copyright?
:4. Must I ask hymns.ru where they got the song in Tagalog translation and ask the source for permission?
:5. Will it be amenable to the community here and will the community support me?
:6. If this is made by the CPP-NPA-NDF (na hinala ko) will it not be a seditious document or file? 
I hope for the answers. Thanks and regards. Mabuhay ang Pilipinas. Justox dizaola 08:33, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Intellectual Property Code of the Philippines respects international copyright law.  The song by now would be in the public domain, since it was written in the late 1800s(?).  However, you might want to contact the site on who wrote the Tagalog translation, as well as who produced it while sung.  Also, freedom of expression I think does not constitute sedition, as sedition would have to present a "clear and imminent" danger to the rule of law.  But just to be sure, ask the webmaster first.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 02:42, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Internationale

message: Hi. I'm Sherly-Mae. Justox Dixaola recommended me here. He asked me if I can help edit some of the Filipino articles here. I'm fond of editing stuffs especially in graphics. And some call me as the "graphic artist"(?) of the site. That's a good compliment.
Hope I'm welcome. Mabuhay! sherlymaine 17:15, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome to Wikipedia!  It's nice to have a new Filipino around.  You might want to check your talk page for a more comprehensive welcome message.  --Akira123323 Say what? | Track record 02:44, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Welcome to Wikipedia!!  Actually, before becoming a member,  you need to write a 200 page thesis about how wikipedia changed your life, how wikipedia will affect the global economy and...--Jondel 07:43, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Ei sherly muxtah na! Welcome to the club kung saan mula science hanggang porno ay pinag-aaralan. No kidding. Justox dizaola 13:06, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Member

message: Hi. I already started making some articles about our First Ladies. Anyone who can make a template or infobox for our first ladies is greatly appreciated. As of now, I've finished already 2 articles:
* Hilaria Aguinaldo
* Pacencia Laurel
Aurora Quezon's article is also done and so are Imelda Marcos and Ninoy Aquino's though he never served as First Gentleman officially. Any public domain pictures are welcome specially from the National Library of the Philippines in Manila. Also, any information or articles that you can contribute is also very welcome. Thanks. --Glenncando 23:01, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Another First Lady was added into an article in Wikipedia, these are:
* Esperanza Osmeña
* Trinidad Roxas
Please do expand these articles if you have any added information especially their public-domain images. I know we still have a lot to do on these articles but I think they also deserve a great credit being the wind beneath the wings of our nation's presidents. --Glenncando 20:20, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Already started a stub on Mike Arroyo. Please expand. -- Saluyot 03:17, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: RP First Ladies Project