Talk:Rebiya Kadeer

message: I don't speak Uyghur or Chinese, so if anyone can help with other forms of her name, it would be appreciated. Also, could use a picture, but I'm not sure if any of these pictures would qualify as being public domain. --MC MasterChef 23:32, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I just found this 30 minute interview with Kadeer. I know a little Mandarin and was able to get the GIST of things, and I definitely can tell that a lot of Kadeer's personal views and philosophies are explained in detail. However, I don't speak it well enough to authoritatively add information to Wikipedia from this interview, so I'm throwing this link into the discussion section with the hopes that someone who speaks better Mandarin (or Uyghur, for that matter) than I can make some accurate translations and thus enhance this article. --Entropy Rising 08:14, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improve this article with this extensive youtube interview. 

message: The part of this article describing her life is definitely sided. It is Rebiya Kadeer and her group's saying. While Beijing (or/and Urumchi) government has another. Which one is true? Remained to be investigated. But different points of view should be presented in order to keep Wikipedia's objective stance.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.175.114.82 (talk) 02:42, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improve this article with different sources. 

message: This article is so hopelessly biased against China. She's a terrorist sympathizer.  What a farce.  While we are in Iraq, killing terrorists at will, we lecture China on how it handles the terrorist East Turkestan Islamic Movement? --69.209.76.0 (talk) 06:33, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: She is a humanist and a great human right activist.Her praiseworthy acts of being sympathetic to ethnic xinjiang people's human right should not be equalized with terrorist sympathizer.Hossain Akhtar Chowdhury (talk) 06:35, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hahaha What kind of "humanist" uses fake photos to proof her point???? Plz~ TheAsianGURU (talk) 22:12, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: 'fake photo' - a common Chinese claim. I guess you think this is fake too? -   —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamesrlforsyth (talk • contribs) 23:33, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I don't think that's fake. If you are looking for the article of Capital punishment, go there and take a look, China is right up there with many free world countries. That is your best come back?! With an undated, non caption Chinese execution photo?! Really?! BTW, next time, make sure you sign what you write, getting caught by sinebot while trying to make a point isn't exactly awesome. TheAsianGURU (talk) 01:14, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What a farce/ 

message: Specifically about Kadeer:
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The title looks unnecessarily sensationalist, but from my brief skim the content seems like it may be useful. rʨanaɢ talk/contribs 12:10, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: New source

message: It is kinda stupid trying to fool the rest by a fake image in nowadays.--207.168.191.2 (talk) 17:30, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In the age of Internet, she was either ignorant or simply just doesn't care. TheAsianGURU (talk) 17:48, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe it was from her speechwriter.Fuzbaby (talk) 20:13, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Reuters, The Daily Telegraph, Voice of America all made the same mistake before her. It's a media non-event, certainly as far as she is concerned. I would ask the IP editor to please don't keep warring to restore it. Ohconfucius (talk) 16:04, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They said sorry already. TheAsianGURU (talk) 23:11, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Any feedback from Kadeer about the fake new picture she used in "Photo Controversy" part? 

message: It is pure propaganda, presented as pro-China arguments rather than an unbiased account of what life was like for her in China. It must be improved or otherwise deleted.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.201.221.119 (talk) 00:21, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "how did she do in china" section 

message: It is about Rebiya lied or not, not this riot. it is nice if you want to keep her "image" by minimize it to some lines hide behind some links. But if she said such things, truth or lie, we should have it listed, everyone deserve the right to know. Like what " Lewinsky scandal" is listed in Clinton's article, not some  "Lewinsky scandal" main article
--68.5.186.148 (talk) 04:24, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Photo controversy should stay in this article

message: As for today, Aug 5, 09, the article claims...
After the collapse of the Soviet Union, Kadeer engaged in cross-border trade, accumulating assets which at their peak were worth more than 200 million yuan. She became one of the top five richest people in China, and her success earned her the nickname "the millionairess"
This information is not supported by the links to BBC News. In addition, to have 200 million RMB by the 1990's is extremely unlikely unless a) she have very good friends at Beijing or b) she has done something illegal.
It was not legally possible to own a business in China until after 1978. Even after that, all multi million businesses were still owned by the state. Also, Xinjiang is a notoriously poor province. The fact that she amassed such a great wealth is rather unlikely.
In either case, the claim is not supported by the link to BBC News and I removed it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.95.115.165 (talk) 02:34, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information about her wealth may be fradulent 

message: The article states she was first married in 1965, this would make her 18 at the time.  However other sources, including Encyclopedia Britannica claim she was 15 when she first married.  The article goes on to claim she was married in 1981, which would have made her 34 at the time. However, Encyclopedia Britannica claims she remarried in July 1978, when she would have been 31. Enquire (talk) 08:33, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates of Marriage(s) 

message: The article refers to a speech she made to "parliament" ... there is no Chinese Parliament, although the National People's Congress is sometimes informally referred to as "parliament" but this is incorrect, since the PRC does not, in fact, have a parliamentary system ... although conceivably something like that could evolve in the future.
I would replace the reference to "parliament" ... to the National People's Congress, but since I cannot find an independent confirmation of this nor that this was the forum where she "openly criticised the government in a speech" ... maybe someone can independently verify this? Enquire (talk) 08:33, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese Parliament 

message: Does anyone else think the ongoing Taiwan controversy and her links with terrorism by the KMT government should be mentioned in this article?  I am looking to add to this today, but would like to get the opinion of others on it before I do so unilateraly.  ludahai 魯大海 (talk) 21:36, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw that too. What's her relationship with the East Turkestan Islamic Movement? (which is a terrorist organization, links with Al-Qaeda) TheAsianGURU (talk) 23:10, 1 October 2009 (UTC)

text: Tricky one, that. This follows on from the visit to the island by the 13th Dalai Lama. Obviously, these East Turkestan Islamic Movement/terrorist claims are state propaganda, and is extension of the China perspective, and the power politics being played by the PRC by silencing her. For Taiwan, it is probably more symptomatic of the pro- and anti-independence stances which run straight through the country/island, that I feel warrants only a short mention in her biography - to the extent of 'she was invited to the premier by the mayor of Kaoshiung, but was denied an entry visa by the Taiwanese authorities'. Ohconfucius (talk) 02:20, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taiwan controversy 

message: There should be WAY more info and sections. There is just so much this article is missing about her. There should even be an article on "The 10 Conditions of Love". ---GooglePedia12 02:07, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've remove the stub tag. While the article may be incomplete, it's start-class at the least. Buckshot06(prof) 21:59, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What kind of political celebrity article is this?! 

message: So far, I see not much of biographical value there. Ohconfucius ¡digame! 07:05, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: neither do I. Choyoołʼįįhí:Seb az86556 07:06, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Visit to Palau

message: It's been there for a while, and I have been waiting to see if it has any significance. I have today removed the section on the Oxford interview, which seems to have a minimal relevant biographical material. I have left it as a note, and readers will see that there is an iTunes file avialable there. Ohconfucius ¡digame! 04:58, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oxford University interview 

message: According to her german book Die Himmelsstürmerin (which is listed in the works-section), she was born July 15th 1948. Thus, I'm going to change it.--Snc212 (talk) 12:33, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Various WPs have significantly differing dates deWP 15. July 1948,  chWP 1947年1月21日, jpWP 1947年1月27日 ... I won't check all the others. --Zenwort 10:25, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of birth 

message: The location does not exist and should reflect 'Xinjiang' as the location. I have updated this. I am not pro or anti China, but East Turkestan does not exist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Number 8 (talk • contribs) 03:57, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: see East Turkestan--Kmhkmh (talk) 04:23, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  East Turkestan 

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message: I just removed the claims about her being a US citizen because I didn't find any specific support for those claims via a google search. Is she stateless or still technically of PRC citizenship? Another country? Not sure- can't find specific information. Geographyinitiative (talk) 18:10, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hope you are doing well. Do you have a source that says that Kadeer is an American citizen ?  Thanks for any help. Geographyinitiative (talk) 21:00, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   I'm fine, thanks BR. I don't have that source, but she has been living in US since 2005 and a notable Uyghur person, and it is adequate to put her name in this page for the convenience of others even if she is not a US citizen. --KH561 (talk) 21:13, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citizenship