Talk:Treaty of Melno

message: Could anybody translate this into EN? M.K. 21:10, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: translate

message: I think it should drop "lake" from its name and become just "Treaty of Melno" because looking for Treaty of Lake Melno points back to WP and its mirrow. Renata 13:17, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The treaty rarely seems to be mentioned in English. The Christiansen book I mentioned in the references section uses "Lake Melno". Google Books gives 2:0 (Melno:Lake Melno) and Google Scholar gives 3:0 (Melno:Lake Melno). Regular Google and Yahoo searches for either term mostly give wiki-mirrors. Either name seems fine. Olessi 15:36, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Lake Melno has no hit at all. I am much more confortable naming an article after some name that could be at least found on google. I know that Melno is not a popular subject in English language, but the few hits that are are all for Melno without a lake. Renata 17:14, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are some some hits ,, although several are wiki-mirrors. Like I said, I am fine with either name. If you do move the article, remember to change the en: links at the interwikis too. Cheers! Olessi 17:53, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I also believe that this article should be named only Treaty of Melno.  M.K. 18:09, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Same here. Appleseed (Talk) 19:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

text: It has nothing to do with German name. It's just (1) Google test fails and (2) is seems weird to name treaties in such way: imaginary examples, Treaty of Big City, Treaty of ABC Forest, Treaty of XYZ Castle, Treaty of Deep Lake, Treaty of Long River, Treary of Small Island in Long River? Usually the city/forests/etc. is dropped because it is shorter and the location where it was signed is not that important. As long as there are no other treaties signed at the same location. BTW, I did not even know it was a lake before... Renata 02:20, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See, you've learnt something, now give others a chance to do so, too (and maybe adjust the interwiki articles). Why would a treaty in 1422 be named after what seems to be a railway station with a small settlement? Back then, the lake was chosen as location, not the next city - else it would be "Treaty of Graudenz". At the time, this city was in possession of the Knights. BTW, there is a Treaty of Sztumska Wieś, do want to shorten that name also to a "Treaty of Sztum", as "it is shorter and the location where it was signed is not that important"? --Matthead 07:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But if I never heard about Melno being a lake, I will not look for it. The lake fact could be just mentioned on the body. It would educate in the same way. Renata 20:17, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name 

message: Is there a name for the conflict that this treaty concluded? Appleseed (Talk) 03:43, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I did a quick Google Books search, and came up with Gollub War.  Does that sound familiar? Appleseed (Talk) 13:16, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never heard of the phrase, although it sounds like a reference to Golub-Dobrzyń. Olessi 14:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that town was besieged during the brief war.  Here are some refs: 1, 2.  I'll stub out Gollub War. Appleseed (Talk) 15:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good job! Renata 20:17, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  War