Talk:Red River Shootout

message: Yuck.  This renaming business leaves a bad taste in my mouth. Sorry, but to this Longhorn it'll always be the Red River Shootout. · Katefan0(scribble) 22:01, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know anything about the naming rights contract, but I'm assuming it expires at some point - frankly, I hope the article isn't moved at all.  It will always be the Red River Shootout.Bbatsell 00:22, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, it's limited -- two or three years I think I read.  I agree on the page move, too.  Shoot, I'm certainly not going to do it. · Katefan0(scribble) 00:28, 5 October 2005 (UTC)

text: In truth, "Red River Shootout" was just the first corporate-concocted nickname for the game. Texas-OU certainly hasn't always been called anything like "Red River Shootout" or "Red River Rivalry." My memory fails me on the exact dates, but I don't think "Red River [whatever]" is much more than 15 years old, if that. Because of their contrived origins, I have no attachment to either of the two corporate sponsor-generated names for Texas-OU, and I wouldn't mind at all if the first lame nickname (RRS) were replaced by the latest lame nickname (RRR) as far as the naming of this article goes. Historically, this game is "Texas-OU" if you're a Texas fan, and "OU-Texas" if you're an OU fan. ~ João Do Rio 05:24, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

text: We actually cover this in the article. Johntex\talk 03:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Red River Shootout" was also a corporate invention -- just an older one. ~ João Do Rio 17:49, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: SBC

message: The article states "Darrell K. Royal-Texas Memorial Stadium seats 84,000 and may soon be expanded further."  I was not aware expansion plans were being considered.  We should add that the article on the stadium as well.  Do we know a source? Johntex\talk 22:44, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, DeLoss Dodds just recently told the Statesman that they're considering an expansion. It's very tentative though, hasn't been approved or really even planned yet, but they are doing some preliminary estimates now on what it would cost to expand seats and suites on the north end up to about 90,000. (HEADLINE: Hook 'em home? Rivalry might move from Cotton Bowl to campuses, Statesman, Oct. 3, 2005; Mark Rosner) · Katefan0(scribble) 22:49, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Awesome, they should just close in the South End as well.  If Michigan can fill 100,000 seats, so can Texas. Johntex\talk 23:03, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: UT Stadium

message: The following is the Austin American-Statesman article on the first ever game between UT and OU.  It was published October 14 1900.  Note that neither team was using their current team name at that time:
:TEXAS 28, OKLAHOMA 2
:Practice game yesterday
:The game of football yesterday afternoon at the Varsity athletic field was an interesting contrast, notwithstanding the rather one-sided score of 28-2 in favor of the Varsity.
:The Oklahoma men played a very good game, but they had weak points and the Varsity men found this out, and proceeded to take advantage of them. For instance, the visitors' tackles and ends were weak, and the Varsity men made most of their gains through these men. Their guards and center, though, were stiff enough, and the Varsity's attack at these points never netted large gains, and were frequently futile.
:While Oklahoma should be given credit for the stiffness of her center trio, the fact that the Varsity backs made but small headway at these points is partly due to the Varsity backs themselves. They had not the life and dash that is necessary to successful line plunging, and they failed to heed Coach Thompson's oft repeated admonition to hit the line low and with speed, and the consequence was that when they got to the line they did not have the necessary momentum to plunge on through.
:This was the case, notwithstanding the fact that the men are coached to play a good distance behind the line, so that they can get up speed by the time they reach it.
:Leslie was particularly slow in this respect, although he sprinted well on the end plays. Napler comes in for criticism on this point also, as does the elder McMahon and the other men who played behind the line.
Posted by Johntex\talk 22:28, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Austin Newspaper Story on 1st Meeting

message: WOAI (San Antonio) ran an article on their website (here) which was a copy/paste of information from this article.  I contacted them to let them know that Wikipedia is available under the GFDL but that they had to comply with that license, cite Wikipedia properly (WP:CW), etc.  They promptly took the article down. Good work to everyone who has made this article worth copying by a commercial news outlet!!! Johntex\talk 22:01, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Imitation and Flattery

message: Johntex, I reverted your edits back to the previous by IP. He had the correct score which you reverted back to the incorrect score. Here is proof of the correct score: http://soonerstats.com/fb/seasons/schedule.cfm?SeasonID=1975. Just letting you know.--NMajdan•talk 01:39, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  1975 game 

message: There should be a mention of the significance of the 2003 game.  Currently, it is the game with the largest winning margin for either team.
:I agree.  Please add it in if you like or if not then I'll try to remember to write something up when I have a bit of time. Johntex\talk 01:40, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listing of the 2003 game in Notable Games 

message: I removed a verification/POV template from the article today because there were no specific concerns raised here on the talk page.  I'm sure we can do better, but the article has a fair number of sources and generally seems (to me at least) to be pretty fair at discussing the two teams.  If anyone wants to re-tag the article please list actual objections here so that they can be addressed.  Thanks! Johntex\talk 07:48, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Verification / POV

message: I dont think this section belongs in the article because whatever games are chosen, it'll be subjective to the views of the editor.   Its ok for Bill Little to do it at Mackbrown-texasfootball.com, but I dont think wikipedia's the place for it.   Corpx 05:35, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable games

message: * I think it should be moved there because its the new official name.  Place a redirect in the current place, similiar to what was done on UFCU Disch-Falk Field.  Corpx 03:49, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm a recent OU graduate and I've never--ever--heard anybody call it the "Red River Rivalry" (aside from the media or corporations involved.) The name "Red River Shootout" is by far more common and will probably continue to be far more common for the foreseeable future. Thus, the article should be left where it is. (As as example, take a look at the article for South Korea. The country is officially just the "Republic of Korea", but because it is more commonly known as "South Korea", that's what the article is named." 211.18.204.250 (talk) 05:53, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Move to [[Red River Rivalry]]

message: :Image:OU-tx2006.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to ensure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is  other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page.  Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot (talk) 15:09, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:OU-tx2006.gif

message: The image :Image:SBC Red River Rivalry 100 year logo.JPG is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here.  In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page.  Please check
:* That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
:* That this article is linked to from the image description page.
This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --22:48, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:SBC Red River Rivalry 100 year logo.JPG

message: Substituted at 04:02, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment