Talk:Lake Skadar

message: Since this is the English language wikipedia, the name used by English speakers, Lake Scutari must be used.  This is the name used in Rand McNally maps, Encyclopedia Brittanica, and MSN Encarta, etc.  Imperial78 16:46, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the name is Lake Skadar. Rarelibra 18:39, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, in English it is Lake Scutari.  Similar we say Republic of Serbia, not Republic of Srbija.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.45.72.26 (talk) 19:31, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I can see why it might be an idea to use the Albanian name because the lake's named after the Albanian city but most of the city is located in Montenegro.  Plus all guide books that I have to the country - Lonely Planet's Montenegro guide, Lonely Planet's West Balkans guide and Bradt's Montenegro guide use the Montenegrin/Serbian name first and as the title of the relevant chapters.  You might say that that's because it's a guide to Montenegro and not Albania but you'll notice that guide books to Italy use the names Venice rather than Venezia, Florence not Firenze and Naples instead of Napoli.  So long as there is a redirect in place it shouldn't matter anyway.--109.228.122.164 (talk) 20:22, 17 September 2010 (UTC)

text: It has be called by the name of the Albanian city that it has always belonged to, Shkodra, therefore the proper name is Lake of Shkodra / Shkodër or Shkodra lake. Andi Shkambi (talk) 01:08, 20 January 2023 (UTC)

text: Albanians didn't come to the region in the middle ages. Albanians are in the region way before the Slavs who came in the 6th century. The Albanian language is an attestation to that, which has Illyrian, Roman, and Ancient Greek elements. Please someone ban this revisionist and spreader of misinformation from wikipedia. 142.114.118.180 (talk) 03:28, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: In English, it is Lake Scutari

message: Most of the lake is in Montenegro. How do I know that? Well, I just know how to read maps, it isn't that difficult. No one ever complained about Serbian language being first before User:Noah30 changed it with obvious bad faith. That's why I reverted it, without an intention of entering the edit war this user started insisting on. And another thing: in Montenegro, Serbian language of ijekavian dialect is official, althouth it is probably soon to be changed to Montenegrin, which I declare my native language. But, this is not the place for a debate on that topic. Sideshow Bob 17:18, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: About the languages

message: The following sentence: The lake is a cryptodepression makes no sense if one follows the definition to which it is linked. 74.178.230.11 (talk) 14:05, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar 

message: The name should be Lake Shkodër. Either use dual name or revert to Lake Shkodër only, as the lake is named after the Albanian city of Shkodër.
:If you want to propose the title of this article to be changed, you can use the Wikipedia:Requested moves procedure. For what it's worth, English usage seems to favour "Lake Scutari", see Britannica, Columbia, Merriam-Webster and American Heritage, the only "Lake Shkodër" I found was in Collins. I strongly oppose using multilingual names for article titles, see Talk:Municipalities of South Tyrol#Survey for a similar case. Markussep Talk 07:07, 1 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: No consensus to move. Some editors have observed that "Skadar" is actually the more common name when referring to the lake, especially in recent reliable sources.   (t · c) buidhe 12:37, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Lake Skadar →  – The name of the lake should be changed to the more internationally accepted Lake Scutari as evidenced in the Encyclopedia Britannica, Columbia, Merriam-Webster and American Heritage. I find the serbian version of the lake name which is named after a city in Albania, inappropriate. Kj1595 (talk) 08:17, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Four cherry-picked encyclopedias are not "all major encyclopedias". For example, Lakepedia uses "Skadar" . Khirurg (talk) 20:06, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a rather weird accusation. These 4 sources are well established general encyclopedias and dictionaries, that have also been published in print and rely on large teams of editors. The one that's not mentioned is Collins, but that says "Lake Shkodër". If you can find other similar reliable English language sources, please provide them. I had never heard of Lakepedia before, I don't think that counts as a reliable source. Markussep Talk 06:57, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: There are literally thousands of reliable English languages sources that refer to it as "Lake Skadar" [ [[https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C29&q=%22lake+skadar%22&btnG=. Far more so than "Lake Scutari", which mainly restricted to older sources. Khirurg (talk) 05:01, 17 April 2021 (UTC)

text: Support Again, all major, older encyclopedias refer to it as Lake Scutari. Wikipedia naming it differently will no doubt diminish the credibility of the article as a whole. The majority of the links on the books search page are clearly from biased slavic authors as anyone can tell by doing a quick scroll. Kj1595 (talk) 07:34, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No double voting. You already voted once above. And ranting about "biased slavic authors" is beyond the pale. Strike your comment. Khirurg (talk) 04:58, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  And additionally, WP:NOTAVOTE and WP:CANVASSING. Pipsally (talk) 05:50, 17 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 10 April 2021 

message: A name section should definitely be created. The ancient name Lacus Labeatis, which comes from the Illyrian tribe of Labeates, should be included there. Until the late Middle Ages, both names (everything that has "Shkodra" in the name it's counted as one) were widely used in Latin documents. Bes-ARTTalk 09:24, 28 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name section 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: no consensus to move the page to the proposed title at this time, per the discussion below.  Dekimasuよ! 08:00, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Lake Skadar →  – per Britannica use . ShockedSkater (talk) 22:45, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Note: WikiProject Lakes has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:44, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Note: WikiProject Montenegro has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:44, 5 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Note: WikiProject Albania has been notified of this discussion. Vanderwaalforces (talk) 23:44, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 5 January 2024 

message: Rename to Lake Shkodra. this is not a montenegrin lake. it is Albanian. change the name now 82.3.27.121 (talk) 22:36, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The current article title is the result of a requested move in 2010. If you think the article should have a different title, you should start a discussion about that. See Wikipedia:Requested moves for more information. Markussep Talk 07:43, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  see above please --Joy (talk) 19:59, 11 February 2024 (UTC)

text: The lake is named after the city of Shkoder. Therefore, it makes sense to call it Lake Shkoder. It's like titling the entry on Canada, "Kanada" because that's how it's spelled in German and Albanian. Please don't be unreasonable and stop this racism and colonialism of our toponyms and history. 142.114.118.180 (talk) 03:26, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Please cite some reliable sources supporting these statements. --Joy (talk) 08:45, 14 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Also please don't make edits just to prove a point like you did in . I will remind everyone again that this is a matter of an international border in the Balkan topic area that is under a special regime, and clearly we see people get emotional about it, but that's immaterial to the content of the encyclopedia. Continuing to make disruptive edits that do not adhere to the rules will not result in any sort of positive outcomes. --Joy (talk) 08:52, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  lake shkodra