Talk:Abdelaziz Bouteflika

message: Does Abdelaziz Bouteflika have a family?  Any children?  Is he married?
There is some redundancy in the Family section of the article, which has a lot of political information repeated in later sections. The non-family information in the family section should be merged into other sections.
How can Said Bouteflika be the president's physician! He's a computer scientist not a medical doctor. Please correct or give reference.
Yes, I also thought about that Osmnvc15 (talk) 15:52, 24 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family 

message: This article is part of the NPOV backlog. Since the article appears uncontroversial, and there seems to be no further discussion suggesting disagreement, the tag is removed (this article is missing cites though). If you disagree with this, please re-tag the article with  and post to Talk. -- Steve Hart 00:33, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV cleanup 

message: I'm no avid supporter of the current president, but a negative POV is strong in this article, really it's not very hard for anyone to notice that. Lots of uncited claims. --80.47.19.60 07:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blatant POV 

message: There's been major protests against this guy since december ad it looks like there's going to be a huge one tomorrow. Shouldn't we mention this?Ericl (talk) 22:04, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: the 2010-11 revolution

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message: Wikipedia notes the death on 11dec2016 of a blogger named Mohamed Tamalt, due to complications from a hunger strike he staged to protest his imprisonment for posting something Bouteflika found personally insulting.  Seems to me that kind of abuse of power merits mention in this biographical article about Bouteflika.  https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/dec/11/mohamed-tamalt-british-algerian-journalist-dies-hunger-strike  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.41.117.182 (talk) 04:38, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apparently an enemy of free speech. 

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He was not the leader of Algeria in his youth... Moreover the Hirak movement was sparked by the outrage of having an old decrepit, so weak he needs a delegate to present his candidacy for him, trying to have yet another term as president. Synotia (moan) 13:21, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I know who he was and what he represented. I also know that had it not been for his fame (based on what he did in his youth), he would have never been elected president in the first place. To me, the old photo is how he's remembered. I don't intend on discussing this at length, partly because there is no right or wrong answer. Ultimately, this is an editorial call and I just happen to agree with the editor who added it. Best, M.Bitton (talk) 17:07, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: No disrespect, but what matters is not how you remember him. I mean, just take a look. Synotia (moan) 19:00, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't say that's how I remember him. I specifically said "to me, the old photo is how he's remembered", meaning that in my opinion, that's how he's remembered (others are free to have a different opinion). How those who only discovered him lately would remember him (assuming they have an interest in the subject and a good memory) doesn't affect what I said. M.Bitton (talk) 20:18, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure. But how did you come to the conclusion that he's remembered that way? The link I sent you might give a glimpse on his public image Synotia (moan) 07:01, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The photo should at the very least not be twenty-two years prior to his election as president of Algeria.  Claiming that what Bouteflika is most known for is something other than being president of Algeria is strange.  There is a 2008 picture on commons which may be slightly more flattering than the one Synotia suggested.  Could you find a photo from when he was president and add it M. Bitton?  Thanks.  --  SashiRolls  🌿  ·     🍥 14:04, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't really mind. That was just an opinion and as I stated before,  there is no right or wrong answer. What do you have in mind? M.Bitton (talk) 14:30, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

text: We can go with either the previous version or this one (unless you,  or  have another suggestion). M.Bitton (talk) 14:39, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The previous version is the one on wikidata and so on most wikis, fr.wp and ar.wp have the second one (as did en.wp at one point as I seem to recall, though I may be mistaken).  It doesn't matter that much to me.  The first image you list has lots of extraneous heads in it. The simplest would just be to self-revert, perhaps, and let the discussion continue here.--  SashiRolls  🌿  ·     🍥 20:39, 26 June 2023 (UTC)

text: I don't really mind what picture is used. We can go with either of those pictures but I would suggest moving that 1977 picture to a section below. Skitash (talk) 13:59, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture