Talk:Recurring character names of Final Fantasy

message: Gilgamesh is one of the main characters in final fantasy IV he is Cecil's brother thats where that character came from. he was supposed to have gone in a very long sleep with the Lunars yet he is a villain aswell in this game this is where gilgamesh was first seen not in final fantasy V but in final fantasy IV
*You're thinking of Golbez.  EdenMaster (talk) 05:55, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Gilgamesh

message: Like the Summon table in Final Fantasy magic, we need to set clear critera for which character names are included and which aren't. The current article simply say "at least in two titles", but this may be too low because in this case we should add Boco, Lone Wolf, Piet, and probably a few others. Piet might be worth mentioning in 'Biggs and Wedge', but I'm not sure about the others. Kariteh 07:27, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: At this point, it's almost impossible to tell what is an appropriate cap.  If we were to pick something, 3 would seem to be the magic number that's used in most other circumstances, but I'd rather not pick a number until after we see how crufty this article threatens to become.  If 2 works just fine and the article stays clean, then keep it at 2.  And for the record, Boco appears in at least 3 games, FFV, FFVIII and FFT.  --—ΔαίδαλοςΣΣ 15:57, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I also think overall role should come into play. For instance, I think Sara and Lone Wolf may be borderline, while Boko is fine. — Deckiller 18:14, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How many titles? 

message: should be mentioned or I will csd the Excalipur page. Kariteh 17:43, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gilgamesh's Excalipur

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Gilgamesh12.jpg

message: The performing troupe Tantalus plays a major role in FFIX, and are mentioned in FFXII in Archades as the "Mummers of Tantalus", also a performing troupe.  Does anyone know of any other instances where Tantalus makes an appearance?  And if not, does this qualify as a recurring name for the purposes of inclusion in this article?  --—ΔαίδαλοςΣ 17:28, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: FFI DS But Tantalus was never a "character". Kariteh 17:30, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's why I was asking.  I can't think of any other article that it would better belong in, though.  --—ΔαίδαλοςΣ 17:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then it proves that it's trivial. Kariteh 18:14, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What?  No it doesn't.  It doesn't mean that it can't go somewhere else, it means that I feel that this article is the best place for it to go.  --—ΔαίδαλοςΣ 18:31, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Tantalus troupe plays some role in FFIX, and a totally similar Tantalus troupe is mentioned in passing in some obscure optional text in FFI:DS and FFXII. It's a cameo, not a "recurring" character/group name that has recurring importance in the plots. Kariteh 19:07, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tantalus

message: Got the discussion starting. Should mentions of recurring names in non-FF games be mentioned in this article? It sounds more like additional trivia to this article, which is disputed for its fiction notability. It adds weight, yes, but not in the way I see it. — Blue。 12:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's a worthy mention and should be in the article, but I don't think that that information should have any weight as to deciding whether a character is notable as a recurring FF character.  --ΔαίδαλοςΣ 20:40, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What about the case of Sed (Cid, clearly) and Sarah from Lost Odyssey? Whilst LO is not Square Enix it is Hironobu Sakaguchi. --Lichtonatus (talk) 11:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-FF

message: Shouldn't Cid from Final Fantasy 11 (online) be mentioned? He's a NPC, but does have a big role is several missions & quests.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.144.235.209 (talk) 18:35, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Have a go at it, then. — Blue。 20:13, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cid

message: Now I'm pretty certain that these two have appeared in more than 2-3 games, but yet they have no section of their own... why?, 22 November 2007
*My guess would be that they have little to no backstory, they are linked only in name and ability, and the source of the summoning changes every game (Magicite, Materia, Fayth, Eidolon, etc), so there is little to fill a section.  EdenMaster (talk) 23:32, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shiva and Ifrit 

message: Since Gilgamesh has been seen with Enkidu at least three times in the franchise now, perhaps it should be added as a new subsection to Gilgamesh' own section?  I don't see this thing being a truly recurring character in itself rather than an component of Gilgamesh. LanceHeart (talk) 03:55, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gilgamesh' pet, Enkidu

message: The article states early in the Gilgamesh section that Gilgamesh is the only character to truly be in multiple FF titles, as all the others are just different characters with similiar names and peronality traits.  However, many of the summons are clearly the same people reappearing in many games.  Summons are not just game mechanics either, as many of them have dialog, (i.e. Ifrit in FFV.)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.243.126.208 (talk) 02:37, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gilgamesh being the only character to transcend titles? 

message: Seriously. Their first apperance was in FFVI. Screw the all-so-popular FFVII. Put a picture of the original Biggs & Wedge on there instead! The FFVIII picture is fine to have on there still, in my opinion. But it's still very... may I say, retarded, to prioritize VII all the time.
*In 6, they die not long after the game starts.  8 is already covered and to my knowledge they do not appear in 9.  In X, they're simply guards standing in the Luca stadium.  They play their largest and most memorable role in VII.  Regardless of your personal opinion of the game and it's popularity, many players who are not die-hard FF fans would probably be most familiar with their VII incarnations.  EdenMaster (talk) 23:37, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't a picture of Biggs and Wedge from FFVI be used instead of FFVII? 

message: It should be added that Moogles are also based in FFXI (Online) As NPC's for events and also they look after items and the plants of players 'Mog houses'. NekoKiyo (talk) 13:01, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moogles *Kupo*