Talk:Zuni people

message: The beginning is confusing: 'Archaeology suggests that the Zuni have been farmers in their present location for 3,000 to 4,000 years. It is now thought that the Zuni people have inhabited the Zuni River valley since the last millennium B.C.,..." Which is it? 3 to 4000 years ago or in the last millennium BC? It goes on to say that they live in the Zuni Valley, and that that is their present location. Venqax (talk) 02:15, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Confusing Intro.

message: Perhaps worth adding some text and pictures from this Project Gutenberg text: The Religious Life of the Zuni Child.--Eloquence* 19:52, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gutenberg text with illustrations 

message: By all outward appearances, Zuñi is the correct spelling. Since there are no technical impediments to using the correct spelling for the article title, why is Zuñi instead a redirect here? Shouldn't it be the other way around? Matt Gies 19:11, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.--BMF81 17:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

text: The name and spelling of Zuñi with the tilde was given to us by the Spanish conquistadores in the 16th century. It is not known how they derived this name.  Zuni without the tilde is the English spelling.
Ewato 20:39, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zuni vs. Zuñi 

message: Is there any info on the Zuni fetishes?  If there isn't then I'll have to put up what I have to offer.  I have a good bit of zuni fetish info that I can add if there isn't any place that already has it.Mattkenn3 22:32, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Zuni fetishes 

message: If any of these can be cited, I'm moving them here.
* Baxter, Sylvestor, Frank H. Cushing, My Adventurers in Zuni: Including Father of The Pueblos & An Aboriginal Pilgrimage, Filter Press, LLC, 1999, paperback, 1999, 79 pages,  
* Bunzel, Ruth L. "Zuni Katcinas: An Analytic Study". (1932d). Forty-Seventh Annual Report of the Bureau of American Ethnology. Pp. 836–1086. Washington, D.C.: Government Printing Office, 1932. Reprint, Zuni Katcinas: 47th Annual Report. Albuquerque: Rio Grande Classics, 1984.
* Cushing, Frank Hamilton. My Adventures in Zuni, Pamphlet, 
* Cushing, Frank Hamilton, Barton Wright, The mythic world of the Zuni, University of New Mexico Press, 1992, hardcover, 
* Cushing, Frank Hamilton. Outlines of Zuni Creation Myths, AMS Press, Reprint edition (June 1, 1996), hardcover, 121 pages, 
* Cushing, Frank Hamilton. Zuni Coyote Tales, University of Arizona Press, 1998, paperback, 104 pages, 
* Cushing, Frank Hamilton. Zuni Fetishes, pamphlet,  and 
* Cushing, Frank Hamilton. designed by K. C. DenDooven, photographed by Bruce Hucko, Annotations by Mark Bahti, Zuni Fetishes, KC Publications, 1999, paperback, 48 pages, 
* Cushing, Frank Hamilton. Zuni Fetishes Facsimile, pamphlet, 
* Cushing, Frank Hamilton. Zuni Folk Tales, hardcover,  (expensive if you search by ISBN, try ABE for older used copies without ISBN)
* Cushing, Frank Hamilton. Zuni Folk Tales, University of Arizona Press, 1999, trade paperback,  (reasonably priced)
* Cushing, Frank Hamilton. Zuni Breadstuff (Indian Notes and Monographs, V. 8.), AMS Press, 1975, hardcover, 673 pages, 
* Ferguson, T. J. and Hart, E. R., eds., 1995. A Zuni Atlas (Norman: University of Oklahoma Press).
* M. Conrad Hyers The Spirituality of Comedy: comic heroism in a tragic world 1996, Transaction Publishers 
* Green Jesse, Sharon Weiner Green and  Frank Hamilton Cushing, Cushing at Zuni: The Correspondence and Journals of Frank Hamilton Cushing, 1879–1884, University of New Mexico Press, 1990, hardcover 
*Elsie Clews Parsons and Ralph L. Beals, "The Sacred Clowns of the Pueblo and Mayo-Yaqui Indians," American Anthropologist, vol. 36 (October–December 1934), p. 493 :D
* Tedlock, Dennis, tr.  Finding the Center: Narrative Poetry of the Zuni Indians.  From performances in the Zuni by Andrew Peynetsa and Walter Sanchez.  Lincoln: University of Nebraska Press, 1972.
* Young, M. Jane.  Signs from the Ancestors: Zuni Cultural Symbolism and Perceptions in Rock Art.  Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press, 1988.
*Bunzel, Ruth L. (1929). The Pueblo potter: A study of creative imagination in primitive art. New York: Dover. 
*Hieb, Louis A. (1984). Meaning and mismeaning: Toward an understanding of the ritual clowns. In A. Ortiz (Ed.), New perspectives on the Pueblos (pp. 163–195).  Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press. (Original work published 1972). .
-Uyvsdi (talk) 21:20, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Unreferenced books moves from talk page

message: This:  Small oval-shaped stones with pointed ends are set close to one another and side by side. The technique is normally used with turquoise in creating necklaces or rings. Another craft they have... needlepoint. when there's no mention of textiles.
Does this intend to refer to sewing or to the description given to fine, small stones in the floral settings? 
Imho, it's to do with the jewellery, not stitching, as described here:Needle point -Turquoise cut in long narrow or elongated stones set in delicate bezels is called needle point. Turquoise Jewelry with pear shape cut gems is known as petite point. Gems that have been cut and tightly set and inlaid into silver jewelry is known as “inlay”. This is a skill of intricate small stonework especially with pieces with smaller tightly fitting gems and settings. So I will change it. Manytexts (talk) 23:00, 6 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Southwest Silver Gallery, which you quote above, is a commercial website and is not a WP:reliable source. Vsmith (talk) 00:32, 7 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Different or the same 

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message: The beginning of the history section doesn’t make sense. It says they’ve been there for 3-4000 years, then it says “first millennium” BC or something, and then it says another culture “preceded” it, but has an AD date. Is this messed up or is it conflicting sources? It needs to be clearer. Ncreynolds80 (talk) 23:18, 1 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doesn’t make sense 

message: Needs a photo of Zuni people from within the past century.  They still exist! 24.130.46.152 (talk) 06:27, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: What would be needed is for someone to make the photograph, and get the written consent of the people who are depicted, then release the copyrights of the image with an appropriate license, and upload to Commons directly or to Wikipedia using the WP:File upload wizard. Would that be something you would be interested in doing to improve the article? Netherzone (talk) 17:16, 25 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs a modern photo