Talk:Jim Tressel

message: This passage isn't true. Joe Glenn, former Wyoming Football coach won titles at Division II Northern Colorado (which has since moved up to 1-AA) and I-AA Montana before going to FBS Wyoming. 
His 2002 national title victory at Ohio State gave him two more distinctions: he became the only coach to win national titles at two different schools (Youngstown State and Ohio State) and he won national titles at two different divisional levels of NCAA football (Ohio State is Division I-A, while Youngstown State is Division I-AA)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.237.26.2 (talk) 22:47, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only coach to win national titles at two schools 

message: The Wikipedia page states that "His 19-game winning streak during the 2002-2003 campaigns was the second longest in the history of Ohio State football."
But according a recent (8-28-06) article on The Official Site of Ohio State Athletics, "The current seven-game win streak is second only to the 19-consecutive wins under Tressel in 2002 (14-0) and 2003 (5-0 to start season). "  This article can be found at 
http://ohiostatebuckeyes.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/082806aab.html
Jefs 19:53, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  19-0 is second-longest streak? 

message: The following paragraph has been removed twice from the article.  While my POV would be in support of Tressel, I fear that leaving this information out of the article tilts the article-- and the section in particular-- toward my POV:
While at YSU, Tressel's football program was investigated for major NCAA infractions. It was found that on numerous occasions during the period beginning August - September 1988 and continuing through the spring of 1992, a representative of the institution’s athletic interests, who was at the time a member and chairperson of the Youngstown State University Board of Trustees, gave at least $10,000 in cash and checks to a football student-athlete for his personal use. In the fall of 1988, the athletics booster instructed the football student-athlete to contact a business associate regarding the use of automobiles. The football student-athlete contacted the business associate who provided the free use of automobiles to the eligible football student-athlete.  (Source:  Farrey, Tom. Souls of the departed haunt Youngstown. ESPN.com, 12 November 2004. Retrieved 14 January 2008.)
This is not an indiscriminate addition of information.  Because Tressel was the head coach at the time, and was thus responsible for the YSU football team, it's highly relevant to the subject matter.  I've flagged the section from which this paragraph was removed for possible POV problems. -- JeffBillman (talk) 08:23, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I completely disagree that the info is relevant to this particular article on the grounds that a) while yes, Tressel was responsible for the team's operations, he cannot be (and wasn't) held accountable for what happened outside the limits of his own personal actions and/or guidelines he set for the team. It was a booster, not a member of the coachin staff. So far as the matter in question is concerned, the info belongs on the YSU football team article, not Tressel's; b) Coach Tressel wasn't indicted on any charges, so what's the point in including it in his article when it's obvious that he wasn't found negligible or guilty on any counts in the first place? The investigation was inconsequential with regards to the YSU coaching staff having any hand in the matter. This is merely a ploy by anti-Tressel (and anti-Buckeye) pundits to try and soil a man's reputation and discredit his programs. I wouldn't tolerate such pointless and inflammatory content on the Lloyd Carr article either, as it is a matter of integrity, not fandom. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 08:57, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I asked for help from Wikipedia:WikiProject College football for a third opinion.  Thanks for helping to improve this article! -- JeffBillman (talk) 21:16, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: While Ryecatcher773 reeks of a pro-tOSU slant (as made obvious by his user page), I agree this information isn't relevant to Jim Tressel's article.  However, given the fact that Troy Smith accepted money while playing at OSU, it may gain relevance, despite the fact that, again, Tressel wasn't implicated.  Reliable source would be needed, as just noting the similarities of different players taking money at different programs under the same coach would violate WP:OR. Tool2Die4 (talk) 19:56, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV issue in reverted edit to YSU section 

message: It seems to me the "Coaching Record" table's legend ("National Championship," "Conference Title," and "Conference Division Title") is unclear. For instance: OSU went to the national championship bowl game in 2006 and in 2007. Admittedly, they lost those match-ups and were therefore only considered the conference champs, but the highlighting suggests the bowl game itself was only a conference bowl; not for the national championship. In fact, when I'd first read the table myself, I was quite confused as to why those two bowl games -- which I knew were both for the national title -- were labeled as conference titles. Is this an issue with the table template itself or with the application of the template on the page? And if the highlighting is only meant to indicate which tier of championship the team achieved that year, then wouldn't the conference standing be enough to indicate their division championship status? Additionally, the use of the table's "Standing" column is rather unclear. With some linking, one can derive that the column indicates the team's standing in their conference at the end of the regular season: the Buckeyes were tenth in the national standings going into the 2009 Fiesta Bowl game despite the fact that the standing column says they were tied for first. This is also not obvious at a glance, however, which is the entire purpose to using a table. —The SCSIBug (talk) 02:49, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It does seem kind of confusing and it's possible there's a problem with the template. But, if you look at other coaches who have both won and lost NC games, (e.g. Bobby Bowden, Bob Stoops, and Pete Carroll) the tables are under the same format. Perhaps further discussion is needed. Bcspro (talk) 04:46, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification on the Coaching Record Table 

message: It is important to pay special attention to the wording in this section -- mainly with the issue of the players who were part of a larger investigation by the FBI. What Tressel did wrong was not report info to the University in a timely manner. The reasons he gave for not disclosing the information quicker may or may not be relevant to the fact that what he did was wrong, but let's be sure that we keep it factually accurate: The Chillicothe Gazette article misrepresents the facts:
::Tressel didn't inform anyone at Ohio State that he knew two of his players were part of a federal drug trafficking investigation because of a request for confidentiality. The investigation subsequently revealed the sale of Ohio State memorabilia by the athletes -- an NCAA violation.[]
The Players weren't part of an investigation as being drug traffickers -- which is what this sounds like. They were selling their memorabilia (which is what they were ultimately suspended for) to a shop owner who was under investigation. They weren't suspected as accessories, they were coincidentally in the wrong place at the wrong time. It is important to make clear distinctions and keep this from drifting into more sinister ground. Tressel violated ethical standards, and NCAA rules, but he wasn't covering up criminal activity by his players. Which is why the section may just be sufficient to say that he was suspended for what not disclosing his players violations sooner and leave it at that. Ryecatcher773 (talk) 19:48, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarity in the '2011 Suspension' subsection

message: 1) Someone who is registered, please change where it says he had "an" 9-1 record vs. Michigan.  Thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.255.207.140 (talk) 04:35, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested Corrections 

message: Due to the 2010 season being vacated, Tressel's career record stands at 229-79-2, a winning percentage of .741.
Someone please verify to me that this mean he is NO LONGER a person to be listed on the .750 winning percentage page (nor should it be listed on this page).
-Colslax (talk) 05:20, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Makes perfect sense to me.  Vacated wins do not count toward a coach's record. Cbl62 (talk) 05:52, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jim Tressel .750 winning percentage 

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message: On Jim Tressel's bio page, his college major is incorrectly listed as "computer science".  Please change it from "computer science" to "education".  Here is the current version: "Tressel also joined the Alpha Tau Omega fraternity while attending Baldwin–Wallace. In 1975, Tressel graduated from Baldwin–Wallace with a bachelor's degree in computer science.[5]".  It should read "Tressel also joined the Alpha Tau Omega fraternity while attending Baldwin–Wallace. In 1975, Tressel graduated from Baldwin–Wallace with a bachelor's degree in education."
I met him today at a speaking engagement and asked him about his major.  He told me that Wikipedia had it wrong and that people ask him about it all the time.  Here is a source to site: http://www.uakron.edu/im/online-newsroom/news_details.dot?newsId=12aeee1b-5a28-495c-a9e7-2b2eebfcb39d&crumbTitle=Tressel%20named%20Vice%20President%20of%20Strategic%20Engagement
or contact Media contact: Eileen Korey, 330-972-6476 or korey@uakron.edu for verification.
thanks
Sondlerd (talk) 02:24, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done The source that was given for CS looks rather dubious from a WP:RS standpoint, especially for a BLP, and I'm certainly more inclined to trust Tressel and the university. BryanG (talk) 22:33, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 1 March 2013 

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