Talk:Merneptah

message: in Ramesses II article it says that Merneptah died from drowning (suggesting Exodus and so forth). But here in this article it says he died from natural causes. Which is it? 76.24.104.52 (talk) 22:40, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
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message: To my knowledge, Dr Maurice Bucaille is known to have shown that Merneptah died from drowning. If a specialist would mention this in the article, along with the proper sources. Thank you.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.129.241 (talk) 20:00, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
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message: This may be simple confusion. 
When Merneptahs remains were first unwrapped they were encrusted with (salt)crystals and the immediate popular reaction was that he had drowned and was identified as the Pharaoh of Exodus and had drowned in the Red Sea.
More careful examination then revealed that that the crystals were in fact the AT Kunene (talk) 10:00, 19 December 2010 (UTC)
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message: I can't believe this article doesn't even mention that Merneptah was pharaoh when the Jewish Exodus took place. Isn't that an important fact? Or is it because this information is controversial?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dimitri Weil (talk • contribs) 13:46, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: First, Wikipedia would never state that the Exodus was a historical fact as that is clearly disputed. Secondly, he isn't even mentioned at Pharaohs in the Bible which is where he should be mentioned if appropriate. Dougweller (talk) 14:18, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
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message: Would this article fall under the Classical period? Adamdaley (talk) 22:30, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I lean toward yes, but its a soft yes since his campaign isn't exactly a keystone of the article. TomStar81 (Talk) 13:52, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
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message: Following the Discussion above, I am adding a new 2020 paper which independently replicates the astronomical eclipse interpretation by Humphreys and Waddington 2017, and furthermore offers a detailed linguistic and archaeological analysis.
 
https://brill.com/view/journals/vt/70/4-5/article-p722_13.xml
It is one of 15 papers which have so far cited Humphreys and Waddington 2017 according to Google Scholar, and is a particular delight to read. The research on the eclipse proposal has been ongoing since 1899, and incredibly this Israeli group and the British physicists have hit upon exactly the same breakthrough conclusions independently of each other. Here, for convenience, I cite the Acknowledgments section:
 Acknowledgements
 We thank Prof. S. Ahituv, Dr. O. Tammuz, and Dr. D. Kahn, who read this manuscript and offered valuable feedback. We should also like to thank Dr. Eve Levavi Feinstein for her editing and improving the English and to Takeji Otsuki Mizra Association, Beit Shalom, Japan, for their generous help. 
 In an article published in October 2017, approximately ten months after our findings were published in Hebrew in the journal Beit Mikra, Humphreys and Waddington (Humphreys and Waddington 2017) arrived, completely independently (see Humphreys and Waddington 2018), at precisely the same conclusion: that the annular eclipse that occurred on October 30, 1207 BCE, was the eclipse described in Joshua 10. Their work was based om Sawyer's (1972) interpretation and on the claim that in antiquity, records did not distinguish between a total solar eclipse and an annular solar eclipse. Therefore a search for solar eclipses that match the biblical account should be broadened to include annular solar eclipses that were visible from the region of Jerusalem between 1500 and 1050 BCE. They made their calculations independently (without using the information on NASA's website) and identified the eclipse of 1207 BCE, which they claimed was the earliest recorded solar eclipse and therefore could be used to calibrate the rate of the earth's rotation.
Fascinating research. 37.5.240.213 (talk) 21:53, 23 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Independent support for dating the reign of Merneptah based on 1207 BC eclipse in the Book of Joshua 

message: Could someone explain which is the correct pronunciation of this Pharaoh's name? Merneptah or Merenptah?
I'm somewhat persuaded to think that Merneptah is favoured because people pronounce the "P" in the name, however the "P" is silent (Ptah).
There are similar names such as Merenre (Nemtyemsaf), which are derived from "Mery", meaning "beloved".
On that basis, it seems to make sense to spell this Pharaoh as Merenptah, unless someone can show otherwise. Lkjdgr (talk) 20:59, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct spelling of this Pharaoh's name