Talk:David Stirling

message: It is an sensationalist documentary with an agenda full of "secret" stuff. Wikipedia article should not be based on it. Back it up with another source.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.136.121.136 (talk) 23:48, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mayfair set not a reliable source 

message: "His name has sometimes been mentioned in connection with the alleged attempts to undermine the Labour government in the mid-1970s, and possibly even topple it by a military coup."
:Does anyone have any sources to back this up? It seems a rather serious accusation to me.  Cjrother 23:52, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed this paragraph now as no one objected or backed up the statements.  Cjrother 17:33, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This seems to have reappeared again (and again was added by an anonymous user). Does anyone else have any thoughts on this? Cjrother 22:03, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed it, as it's the kind of thing that definately needs a reference cited for it. That said, Stirling definately was involved with mercenary activities in Africa and the Middle East, and the training (as a private consultant) of the military forces of several middle eastern countries, including Oman. The article certainly should mention that stuff. I have heard rumours of a coup against Wilson, but nothing so concrete I'd put it into Wikipedia myself. If someone can source this rumour (even if it's only a rumour) then (depending on the quality of the source, and what it says) that's something we could mention in the article. But without a reference, we certainly can't allow it into the article. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 17:52, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest you watch Adam Curtis's The Mayfair Set, it is mentioned that he established an alternative Government for the UK in the event that it fell into anarchy. This doesn't actually suggest outright that he was hoping for a coup. But it's certainly a worrying aspect to the story given his previous work in Nigeria, Yemen and Saudi Arabia (to name just three).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ascolti (talk • contribs) 12:56, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've added a section on this subject. It wasn't a coup, more a Government in waiting. But I couldn't think of a good name! Please help  Ascolti (talk) 13:30, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Military Coup 

message: The article has been changed to say he was captured by the Germans. I had thought it was the Italians but I can't find my copy of his biography at the moment. Does anyone know who it was?  Cjrother 22:03, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked the biography "The Phantom Major" and it was indeed the Germans who first captured Stirling. He was then later betrayed by an Arab to the Italians. Ascolti (talk) 13:38, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capture 

message: "Doune in the district of Stirling" isn't really true.  Firsly, in 1915 it was Stirlingshire; that's not nit-picking, as Stirling (district) is a vast modern thing that has very little in common with old Stirlingshire. But worse, I don't believe Doune (or Park of Kier, really) was in Stirlingshire then (they wobbled the boundary around a bit, which doesn't help). I've yet to find a really good map of Stirlingshire, but this would have Doune (which is NW of Bridge of Allan) well inside Perthshire. Saying "Doune near Stirling" would be accurate and avoids the issue of the location of the Stirlingshire-Perthshire border. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 16:58, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I found a decent map: http://www.electricscotland.com/history/stirlingshire/Stirlingshire_Map.jpg. Kier (about half way down, near the east margin, sw of Dunblane) is well inside Perthshire. -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 17:12, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doune in the district of Stirling 

message: The article on the Gideon Force states "The Gideon Force was officially disbanded June 1, 1941. Wingate returned to Egypt".
Col David Stirling founder of the SAS was in Cairo at that time. I wonder if he and Orde Wingate ever meet in Cairo and if Wingate passed on his ideas about special forces and guerrilla warfare to Stirling who later formed the SAS ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.178.165.20 (talk) 08:26, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did Wingate ever meet David Stirling in Cairo in 1941 ? 

message: many people have a go at mountains. FEW found the SAS. this is the only thing for which his name ever registers on my radar....why is this his third achievement in the opening statement? it seems to me that merely training to climb everest before WW2 pales into insignificance compared to what he did later. I would've changed the order but thought there may be an underlying reason behind this already discussed. please advise if there is such an issue otherwise i will switch it around in order of importance.Rayman60 (talk) 03:04, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Order of opening line 

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message: Not worthy of comment in the main article, but perhaps of interest to a passing researcher, might an entry in the wine cellar list of Brooks’s club. A 1948 list includes 57 bottles of Warre 1922, marked at 30/- (=£1½, per bottle), from “Col. Stirling” (perhaps this Colonel Sir Archibald David Stirling). Indeed, the same page of the cellar book mentions Dow 1927 purchased from the wine importers Twiss Browning, the son of one of its partners having served in the SOE. (My picture #5553.) JDAWiseman (talk) 14:11, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vintage Port from “Col. Stirling” 

message: "That year, following gambling losses he was obliged to note John Aspinall - I owe you £173,500 in the accountant's ledger. One night in 1967, he lost a further £150,000."
This story, which has featured in several books and documentaries, actually refers to David's brother William, The infamous 'note' in the ledger, is visibly signed by William Stirling who was a member of Aspinall's club.Bluebadge1 (talk) 15:14, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gambling losses 

message: The description of his jeep based raids makes it sound like they were all successful.  For balance, perhaps the article should mention his failed raids on Benghazi and Benina.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.137.134.50 (talk) 15:08, 11 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: = Failed Raids 

message: https://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle-2-15039/plaques-stolen-from-sas-founder-s-doune-memorial-1-3432975
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-27716544
TLDR plaques where stolen from his memorial, Someone should probably make an update on it. I live in scotland and can tell you that stirlingshire and perthshire are very different on different maps, there is no clear cut boundary, it is in both stirlingshire and perthshire.
--2A00:23C5:E41E:1200:D9DE:B153:CEF8:34B5 (talk) 20:16, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Memorial Plaques Stolen & Memorial location mixup

message: The article related to David Stirling will be created on the Wikipedia in Spanish, so with the permission of the people who contributed to the creation of this article, it will be taken to translate it. InSyzygyLion15 (talk) 0:07, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation to spanish