Talk:John Keegan

message: Hello,
I believe that some of the editors who have recently been working on this article are perhaps not fully informed concerning the Wikipedia's policies.
First, we follow the principle of Neutral Point of View:  you can report what public participants in a controversy have said, but you can't endorse any particular point of view yourself.  I trimmed back some material by what looks like a person who's quite angry/indignant concerning Keegan, because, it's just not acceptable, according to our policies, to attack Keegan on your own.  Please note that I left in material that is properly attributed to published sources; this material is legitimate.  Any further criticism of Keegan should follow the same mode.
I also removed material that looks to me like it's redundant.  I encourage editors to read over the existing article carefully before editing, to make sure that your contribution will not repeat what is already said.
Yours sincerely, Opus33 23:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Some trimbacks

message: OK, I've tightened up further and reduced some of the surplus verbage.  We need a list of his works, properly with ISBNs etc, and we need to source the NYT book review and the statement by the third historian.  I removed the section on Afghanistan, it was disproportionate and really just a huge chunk of outdated editorial.  The Op-Ed piece really just conformed to the Torygraph position on the invasion.ALR 13:32, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  My edits 

message: Is there a reason why several quotes in this article are formatted as italicized type, rather than between quotation marks? Alki 00:04, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes in italics? 

message: Interesting that I'm accused of vandalism for removing the Iraq war section previously, however I stand by the comment I made at the time; it doesn't add a great deal of value to the article.
In any case, I've left in the statement of his view on the invasion, and requested verification, I'd prefer a secondary source rather than his Op-Ed pieces.  The lengthy quotations neither really supported the assertion or added anything to the content.  Contrary to some views the invasion doesn't really dwarf the last 60 years of political history....
ALR 20:24, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The opinion on Iraq War wouldn't add much to the article if John Keegan was, say, a footballer. But it just so happens that he is a military historian, so his opinion counts. Even if (or perhaps because) others (e.g. Martin van Creveld) disagree on the point of Iraq War. GregorB 23:30, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Iraq war section

message: The article says Keegan has also been criticized ...  for his critical position on Carl von Clausewitz -  but the article does not mention that he is critical of Clausewitz. KAM 20:41, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added some things about him rejecting Clausewitz in History of Warfare. It was done from memory and may not be that great, so if anyone wants to change it go ahead but I thought I would stick that in so the other parts made more sense. Mandarim  —Preceding comment was added at 03:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism

message: This article was automatically  assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 17:46, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: Can someone with a copy of Keegan's _The First World War_ help me source the claim in "Published Work" that Keegan believes mandatory public schooling contributed to the carnage of the 20th century? I'll try to get another copy as soon as I can, but it's a fascinating idea and I need to source it as soon as I can. I believe he mentions it in one of the very first chapters, as he is describing the phenomenon in the first year of the war when entire classes of privileged, draft-exempted academics volunteered for combat, partly as an expression of school/collegiate spirit.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.155.30.176 (talk) 08:34, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sourcing Keegan's Thoughts On Public School 

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