Wikipedia talk:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2007-03-13 Electronic Voice Phenomenon

message: Truth be told it's a widely recognized and explained phenomena with a straightforward definition. The only "debate" is whether or not it's sometimes caused by "spooks" (the paranormal claims). Gwen Gale 17:15, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Definition of EVP

message: All of my concerns with Wikipedia seem to be answered with Citizendium  See
  So do what you want here.  Tom Butler 00:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Tom. Your good faith in Wikipedia was [pretty clear already] but I think that removes all doubt. SheffieldSteel 03:16, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He's right.  If Wikipedia had their system, we wouldn't have to go through all this bunk. Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 03:17, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't see anything in the articles linked saying Citizendium would treat psuedoscience more credibly than Wikipedia, but good luck and best wishes, Tom. --- LuckyLouie 03:57, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a matter of expertise: a real expert is not a pseudoskeptic. Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 04:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sadly, I don't think that necessarily follows. SheffieldSteel 13:31, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So based on this I guess I must ask again...Tom, are you still planning to participate in this mediation?  Or is this the same as the other times you've "quit" wikipedia?  --Minderbinder 14:14, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

text: )  Tom Butler 16:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

text: As far as competition goes... let's just say I'm looking forward to seeing the Citizendium entry for Time Cube. As I'm sure you know, there is only one acknowledged expert on that topic. It promises to be fascinating reading. SheffieldSteel 16:49, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Soooooo...are you still planning to participate in this mediation, Tom?  (assuming it ever happens)  And Sheffield, at this point I'm looking forward to seeing their article on George W. Bush.  I guess they'll get around to it eventually.  --Minderbinder 17:07, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

text: All my life I have been considered the most skeptical, and sometimes pseudoskeptical, person in any room.  And I say amen to this. Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 20:50, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't belong to any evil cabal of "psuedoskeptics" with any master plan to do anything. Just wanted to clear that up. - LuckyLouie 21:29, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, that was not my general impression.  I have been dissapointed at some of the un-necessary bias in some of your recent edits, though.  Also, it seemed as if you were acting as if what you thought of EVP mattered (as of course it shouldn't). Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 21:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice of you to slip in an accusation of bias, but I won't respond to baiting. On a more relevant subject: how does everyone feel about the progress of the mediation so far? --- LuckyLouie 22:31, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not trying to be nasty.  I just had an impression of you as one of the few NPOV editors (which is an absolutely huge compliment), and I think a few of your edits lacked that reserve.  I also got the impression on the talk page that you were slipping into bias.  If you think the same of me, why don't you tell me?  It is my hope to be NPOV, even where others are not.  As an example of a skeptical editor who is NPOV and whom I can work with, I would point to Noclevername.  Martinphi (Talk Ψ Contribs) 00:11, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: At Last!