Talk:Graduate Record Examinations

message: Was there a recentering on the old version of the GRE like there was on the SAT? Like around the time they got rid of analytical ability section? Are quantitative and verbal scores from 2010 or so directly comparable to Q and V scores from the late 90s? Just wondering. Maybe this should be added to the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.87.247 (talk) 22:46, 27 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-centering of old version of GRE

message: I removed an untrue point about the CEO of ETS's salary--This is not at all right, see http://people.forbes.com/profile/kurt-m-landgraf/23288 for his actual compensation, also the compensation of the CEO of the company that adminsters the GRE does not belong at the very beginning of an article about the GRE.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by Devlinb (talk • contribs) 12:34, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  CEO? 

message: The article claims, "Also, higher mathematical ability is required in GMAT to get a good score." As an instructor for graduate level standardized exams, my professional instinct is that this is not true. If I am wrong, I would like to see a reference.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.249.67.14 (talk) 15:20, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: GMAT Math More Difficult?

message: According do ETS's website and this article (http://media.www.unews.com/media/storage/paper274/news/2006/09/25/News/Gre-Changes.Format-2307008.shtml) the test is no longer adaptive. This change occured last year so I'm removing the whole section about the test being adaptive.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.183.40.171 (talk) 14:03, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Test no longer computer-adaptive

message: I'm not sure that the math section is a good predictor of performance in math, science or engineering programs. Citation is needed. 128.12.32.199 20:10, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Alleged strengths

message: Does anyone know how often students score better on the verbal than quantitative? Obviously, it's a minority of the time, but just how often? Because I did WAY BETTER on verbal.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.177.1.210 (talk) 19:58, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Verbal vs. Quantitative

message: Which name do you want (GRE or Graduate Record Examination)?  Angela and I have differing opinoins on this.  One is that we should use the abbreviated version, as that is what most people remember and call the test in common usage.  The other opinion is that it acronyms should be spelled out.  We'll keep it with the common usage for now, as that's how it started, but feedback's appreciated.  
--zandperl 04:36, 23 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Common usage vs. acronym

message: The scoring rubric is now outdated, I believe, and should be updated to reflect the three components of the exam.  Additionally, there should be a section for the GRE subject tests.
Actual name of the test is Graduate Record Examinations (with an "s").  How does on edit the main section name?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rosedale 085 (talk • contribs) 18:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarifications 

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The link really seems to be just an ad and doesn't actually persent any resources at all. Perhaps it should be removed?
: The link "GRE Practice tests and Prep material" also links to a website that provides incorrect answers and impossible questions.Axolotlsure (talk) 20:01, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's a spam link, one that's been added enough times to warrant inclusion in the blacklist. OhNoitsJamie Talk 20:05, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links ... ads? 

message: There should probably be something about how the test was before it became a computer-based test.  There should also be something about how the analytic section changed from logic problems to a writing section (less than two years ago).  After all, this is supposed to be an encyclopedia. KSchutte 13:53, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of the GRE 

message: To: Mindspillage
Though I am not sure how external links that you have removed  relate to encyclopedic nature, but I thought they are quite informative for anyone looking for GRE prep. There are similar links on GMAT article as well, and I must say that they really helped in my GMAT preparation. If you don't have objection, I will put them again?
Ashish G 06:19, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't like leaving in links to prep sites because they are 1. not encyclopedic and 2. almost always commercial/spammy. Mindspillage (spill yours?) 03:20, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: I'm curious if anyone knows of any source of information that could be referenced to talk about how the GRE is standardized.  I've been trying to find official information from ETS concerning the size of the normalization sample, any information about psychometric properties (reliability and validity in particular), or really anything relating to how the test is standardized.  Apparently ETS does not make this information public.  They have a lot of internal research that shows the tests are valid and reliable in given contexts but they don't speak at all about how the test was (and is) developed.  I think this would be useful information for anyone that wants to decide about the value of the tests. Any thoughts? 
-- Bdean42 00:15, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a trade secret. Capitalism for the win! 99.231.241.146 (talk) 08:32, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information on Standardization 

message: Would it be OK to add what the scores mean (i.e., converting scores to percentiles), or does that go against wikipedia's policies? I found data on the quantitative and verbal sections on the following websites: 
http://www.west.net/~stewart/gre/score_q.htm
http://www.west.net/~stewart/gre/score_v.htm
210.150.165.67 03:14, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be noted that the percentiles listed change.  I got my scores for a May 1 administration of the test (computer-based, if that means anything), and my percentile rankings were higher than those listed on the chart in the article.  The differences were small (the greatest being by two percentile points), but they were there.
Actually for percentiles, take a look at http://www.ets.org/Media/Tests/GRE/pdf/994994.pdf; these list the percentiles of June 1 2003 - June 30, 2006, which are much more recent than those listed in the article (pulled from PowerPrep, but are from 1999 - 2002). shawnlauzon Shawnlauzon 01:38, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I just updated the percentiles table from that document. The old data was out of date and reference wasn't even an official site. Rayno 05:37, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interpreting Scores 

message: Hello,
If I am not mistaken the GRE is also offered as a paper exam, as such the following sentence is inaccurate: "Unlike the SAT, the GRE is a computer-based test".  Furthermore, the scoring chart is only accurate for the computer based exam, not the paper.  --Ndstate 04:14, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Computer Based Only? 

message: My cram school for GRE in Taiwan suggest us to take the paper based test in Taiwan, for with papers it is easier stay focused, and you can answer the questions based on your priority. 118.169.96.175 (talk) 02:30, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Computer Based One Is Harder? 

message: The page says that GREs are often deciding factors for admission to Ivy league grad programs, but everyone I've spoken to in Academia says that they are typically among the least important factors.  Can someone provide a citation one way or the other?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.60.241.222 (talk) 20:35, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right, that statement is false. I go to an Ivy league grad school, and no one here cares about the GRE at all (unless you do horribly badly)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.154.209.31 (talk) 22:44, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Importance for admissions 

message: Under the heading "Sources", there is an item "GRE Test Modules" that points to a website in Nepal that won't load for me.  Is this website legitimate and does this link belong here? Wideangle (talk) 19:12, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GRE Test Modules 

message: Hello, I am from Taiwan. I would like to contribute a little general ideas about our Cram school for GRE here. Cram schooling is a big business in Taiwan, and their views on GRE are quite interesting. One of our teacher considers the Analytic a respectable opponent, another one considers that Reading Comprehension was actually made unreadable to scare away non-natives. All these are said, not written. I know these are hearsays.
I wonder if the Chinese news letters they printed counts as verifiable source or not. 118.169.96.175 (talk) 02:45, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  GRE cram schools in Taiwan

message: I noticed that there was a citation needed regarding the experimental section in the event that it is an analytical writing question. I don't know how one would cite this, but I just took the test yesterday, and I was surprised to find that when it came to the experimental section (which happened to be analytical writing), it actually had a page or two telling me it was the experimental section. It mentioned it was experimental, and for future test making purposes, and it also mentioned that participation in said section could earn the test taker a chance to win a small scholarship (somewhere in the realm of $200?). Anyone else notice this in the recent past?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.156.135.88 (talk) 17:21, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I just took the blasted thing this afternoon.  The experimental section (on mathematics, as it happened) was marked as such, and I did not have to complete it.  The article needs revision on this point.  209.6.90.149 (talk) 20:05, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, page updated now. 209.6.90.149 (talk) 20:20, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  GRE Experimental Section 

message: I'm not sure this line about the "elimination of the CAT format" is entirely accurate. The reference provided certainly doesn't say that. According to this page, they say it will simply be a modification that allows you to skip around more freely- it's called Multi-Stage Computer Adaptive Testing. So I don't believe you can skip from the beginning to the end of an entire section, just to the end of that group of questions which were selected based on your previous answers. -Tiredmeliorist (talk) 00:45, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: 2011 Revision of the GRE

message: There is no information given about ranges/percentiles on the Subject Tests.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Drmom5 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subject Tests 

message: The citation was originally indicating they were referencing the "How does the computer-based GRE revised General Test work?" from https://www.ets.org/gre/revised_general/faq/ within the actual text, which I changed to a standard citation. However, the section probably needs to be reworked more than just that. Parasprite (talk) 15:35, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism (Bias) 

message: Under the section in the article entitled, "Analytical writing section," the following outdated information is included: "Each essay is scored by at least two readers on a six-point holist scale. If the two scores are within one point, the average of the scores is taken. If the two scores differ by more than a point, a third reader examines the response." According to the ETS GRE site this method is used with paper-based examination only. Instead, according to ETS, what is now done the following: "For the computer-delivered test, each essay receives a score from at least one trained reader, using a six-point holistic scale. In holistic scoring, readers are trained to assign scores on the basis of the overall quality of an essay in response to the assigned task. The essay score is then reviewed by e-rater®, a computerized program developed by ETS, which is used to monitor the human reader. If the e-rater evaluation and the human score agree, the human score is used as the final score. If they disagree by a certain amount, a second human score is obtained, and the final score is the average of the two human scores.
The final scores on the two essays are then averaged and rounded to the nearest half-point interval on the 0–6 score scale. A single score is reported for the Analytical Writing measure. The primary emphasis in scoring the Analytical Writing section is on your critical thinking and analytical writing skills rather than on grammar and mechanics." (http://www.ets.org/gre/revised_general/faq/). 
It would be useful if someone were to emend this portion of the article, to fit with current test scoring procedures.
Cordially. 75.28.98.243 (talk) 21:24, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Analytic Writing Scoring Method 

message: The Analytic section used to be scored 200-800 like Verbal and Quantitative.  I don't see that mentioned in the article.  It looks like they switched to the essay in 2003 (https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d08/tables/dt08_330.asp). —Torc. (Talk.) 01:32, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Analytic Test 2002 and Earlier 

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message: The preparation section doesn't include non-ETS companies, are we against ads?
GREGMAT,Manhattan, etc
should we list them? 68.134.243.51 (talk) 16:26, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, we are against ads. If there are particularly notable companies that already have articles, it may be appropriate to mention them. But this is an encyclopedia article, not a guide for test-takers. ElKevbo (talk) 19:27, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The preparation section doesn't include non-ETS companies, are we against ads? 

message: There is some discussion, including it seems articles, about how discontinued subject tests. But not for the engineering test.  I am trying to remember the engineering fields tested, and there are no easy to find references for it.  Is it too old to include? Gah4 (talk) 08:41, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Engineering test