Talk:Fra Dolcino

message: The rigth name should be Frair Dolcino, Fra' is not a name, just short for Frair.
I already changed it but it was changed back.
*Oppose. "Fra Dolcino" is more common in English than "Friar Dolcino" (says the Google). Similar to Fra Angelico, the foreign title seems to be more widely used. Kusma (talk) 18:58, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
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message: Anyway there is discussion about a League of the Valsesian people to fight Dolcino it does even exist a Statute of Scopello (near Vercelli) of this league but it is considered by some a false that was created 1793 (the same year as the French Revolution) by nobles and priests worried about a possible positive rediscover of Dolcino fuelled by the revolutioner ideas.
On the other side this statute was cited by G.B Fassola in 1672 long before the Revolution and taken as an example of the contribute given by the people of Novara in the fight against eresy.
"Statutum Ligae contra Haereticos" of the 24 agosto 1305 signed by most cities of the valley on 3 september 1305 in the "Ecclesia Sancti Bartholomaei" of Scopa (another village near Vercelli) the crusade was officially declared.
The most reasonable explanation I have read is that the fact that many in the higher parts of valley were Dulcinian does not mean that all were, besides the situation was different in the lower parts (were Vercelli and Novara lies).
:There are only three documents claiming that there was a league (the pact or statute of Scopa) and even a crusade against Dolcino as early as 1305, when Dolcino and his followers where still on the Parete Calva in the Upper Valsesia (diocese of Novara). These documents are wildly at odds with reliable contemporary documentation, and they have been clearly proven by Francesco Cognasso and Rosaldo Ordano to have been forged in the 18th century, yet not for fear of revolutionary ideas, but simply for the purpose of endowing local families with post festum honours of having fought against Dolcino. --195.233.250.6 (talk) 19:21, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
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message: According to Apocalyptic Time, by Emmanuel Ward, Fra Dolcino and his followers were condemned by Pope Clement V in 1307, does anyone know whether this was before or after his capture? 
81.208.60.196 He called the crusade against him see Dulcinian anyway anybody (exept the marxists) condemned Dolcino in the last 700 years
Another source, Contemplative Church: Joachim and His Adversaries, indicates that Fra Dolcino was the successor of Gherardo Segarelli of Parma.  And that a succession of four military campaigns were called to destroy the sect.
81.208.60.196 This is clearly stated in the article I think, about the military campaigns there are complete accounts citing even the unit sent by the various italian states (among them 4000 famous archers from Genua) but that belongs probably to the Dulcinian entry
Is anything known about his early life, the birth year indicates he was in his mid fifties when he was executed.  Is anything known about his early life other than he was from Navarre?
--L Hamm 23:30, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
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message: --Adkins 20:53, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
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message: She is mentioned by name once in the article and not otherwise discussed. Does anyone know enough about her to write about it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.195.57.31 (talk) 04:01, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: She's mentioned in Dulcinian. I ponder merge... Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 11:44, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
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message: This article reads like it was written by AI. It's a complete mess, citations are sloppy or non-existent, and it's chock full of idiotic, unprovable and/or false statements.
Someone with brains, please fix this.
Thanks. 2601:403:C201:1170:256B:846B:BA41:75EA (talk) 15:47, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
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