Talk:FC Zenit Saint Petersburg/Archive 1

message: Him listed on Zenit site: http://www.fc-zenit.ru/info/person.phtml?id=229
One of numerous articles about his return to Zenit, namely the reserve squad: http://www.rusfootball.info/2007/08/02/dragan_chadikovski_vernulsja_v_zenit.html
:This is the list of players eligible to play in the Premier League. No Cadikovski. Conscious 19:24, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dragan Chadikovski 

message: I am not quite sure what the situation is but I have seen Zenit play a numebr of their games in light blue jerseys. Could anyone tell me whether these are the home, away or third jerseys. I am pretty sure that the away jerseys are still white though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Likthem (talk • contribs) 
:The facts and figures for the 2006 season (official matches only) are (Source):
:*Zenit played 17 home matches in dark blue jerseys, 3 in white, 2 in light blue;
:*Zenit played 12 away matches in dark blue jerseys, 10 in white.
:So I'd say that the light blue jerseys are third choice. Conscious 09:11, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jerseys 

message: Zenit have communicated their squad list to the Russian Premier League. It doesn't contain Panov and Hyun, and Dominguez is listed as a midfielder. Conscious 05:59, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RFPL squad list 

message: As has been discussed priorly, a firm criteria needs to be established in including notable players and not just every footballer who had an extensive stay with the club.  I do not know of any global criteria, but a more straneous filtering process with better formatting for the display (akin to those of European clubs) should be considered. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 154.20.178.99 (talk • contribs). 04:50, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just discovered one from WikiProject Football: "Noted players of the club, who have had a major impact on the club's history. The section should use external sources for the list, not the personal opinions of editors". Is this a good criteria, what do you think? —  Ash063 23:20, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree. Recent transfers are transfers from recent transfer window. So transfers section should exist (as it exists for every major european club article, and also some local one articles have it, see Lokomotiv) and should contain only recent transfes like Lombaerts one, are you agree?Secondly, strongly disagree, quality of the article wouldn't suffer. By the same logic Wikipedia shouldn't exist because somebody can post false info in it. You know there are tools in Wiki to revert wrong edits. You can see how it is put into practice in connection with Pato in AC Milan article history. And it's easy to create a rule about including player in transfer section or not. For example, if1)There was a press-conference where player was presentedand 2)Club representative gave an interview where said that the player will play for the first teamthen this player should be in transfer section. Agree? —  Ash063 23:20, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Now I think that transfers section isn't required. But anyway likes of Poskus and Samsonov should be mentioned somewhere as loaned out players. So is it ok to mention them in the squad list or it's better to create an 'out on loan' section? — Ash063 22:45, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Strongly disagree, the quality of articles would suffer hardly. Look, for example, at Amkar Perm article. Since november 2006 there is only some changes in the squad list, spelling etc. How the fact that nobody at the moment wants to develop this article may affect development of other article like Zenit one? That's obviously a bad idea about a single format. Need examples? Compare Porto article with Leixoes one, Bayern article with Karlsruher one, Ajax article with Venlo one, Lyon article with Lorient one, Milan article with Livorno one, Barcelona article with Almería one, ManUtd article with Wigan one, and you find that there is no single format in articles of clubs from the same league. These are clear examples that all clubs are not the same and some single format for all articles should not exist. Any objections? —  Ash063 23:20, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RE: Main discussion 

message: You forget about NORTH BASTION —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.48.208.215 (talk) 18:53, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Firms 

message: Alejandro Dominguez is listed on his site as a Striker/Attacking Midfield. I claim that he should be listed as midfield however another says he should be listed as a forward. I need your opinions.
Likthem 23:42, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dominguez 

message: As it stands now, the list of notable former players is too extensive and messy.  Many of the players on the list and and their corresponsing tenures in St. Petersburg are simply not notable.  A reduced list is in order, until then, it serves no purpose whatsoever. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.178.99 (talk) 21:27, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Former Players 

message: Is there really any "RPL article style"? I know only that there is some good articles about major European teams, see: Manchester United F.C., Chelsea F.C., FC Barcelona, Real Madrid, Sevilla FC etc. So why the article shouldn't aim to be as cool as european ones are, but should forever stay as poor as some local ones are now? Why Real Madrid encyclopaedic article should contain transfers, huge list of former players, foreigners etc but Zenit encyclopaedic article shouldn't? Is there any reason why useful information can not be added? —  Ash063 00:51, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main discussion