Template talk:Film crew

message: Currently all of the jobs are in alphabetic order, arranging them into categories might be a better way to go. For example: editing, guys in charge, crewmen, actors. I'm not sure where all of the jobs would fall though.
Also, the tv crew is closely related but not the same. I debated making them one template but decided against it. Here's a list of everything I gathered.
TV
Show runner
Script editor
Television director
Television producer
Film
Production designer
Film director
Film producer
Script supervisor
[[Line Producer
both
Actor
Cinematographer
Camera operator
Best boy
Colorist
Costume design
Art director
Set decorator
Dolly grip
Focus puller
Executive producer
Gaffer
Grip (job)
Key grip
Property master
Location manager
Production assistant
Assistant director
Clapper loader
Production sound mixer
Boom operator (media)
Utility sound technician
Film editing
Foley artist
Dialogue editor
Sound design
Sound editor
Vicarious 02:09, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ordering

message: Why is Accidents in filmaking (List of film accidents) listed in this template? That is not a "job" on a film crew. 
I'm removing it. - ¢Spender1983 (talk) 15:50, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accidents in filmaking?? 

message: This template in its current form is contradictory in deciding who is above-the-line and below-the-line. As the article about the Unit production manager says, it is a "below-the-line staff position". And as the article about below-the-line says, the director of photography is also "part of the below-the-line film crew". So if you go by the original definition from the early studio days, both these should be below-the-line.
But on the other hand, there is a good case to be made for the director of photography to be above-the-line, since that in its more modern definition refers to "individuals who guide and influence the creative direction, process, and voice of a given narrative in a film and related expenditures." In other words, individuals who are the primary creative collaborators on a film. By that definition, the unit production manager would still be below-the-line, but the director of photography is above-the-line – and so is the film editor, another essential creative collaborator in the film crew.
So this is my suggestion: Switch the unit production manager to below-the-line, and film editor to above-the-line. Greetings from --Sprachraum (talk) 12:29, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need for reassessment of "above" and "below" 

message: Isn't special effects a branch of production design, since it appears IN the shot (like dressing, make, hair, props, set decoration, scene design, matte painting and illustration)?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ogat (talk • contribs) 05:38, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Special effects as a branch of produciton design 

message: This template is enigmatic to a reader unfamiliar with the terms of art "above the line" and "below the line", they either have to click through to the above/below article, or pick one section or the other at random to open to get some idea. Not great for quick navigation, and not much space is being saved when the "above the line" section is only a handful of items anyway.
Is there a reason not to make it a single table like this? I applied that edit myself then backtracked when I saw the documentation mentioning how the template should be called. --Lord Belbury (talk) 17:46, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I agree. By default, the navbox will be expanded, but without an above or below passed in, the thing will only show the collapsed sections. It would make more sense to show everything. SWinxy (talk) 21:06, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collapsed sections