Talk:Arabic coffee

message: Hi. I'm from Saudi Arabia and I think you perhaps got it mixed a bit. "Gahwa Sada" is for turkish coffee, while "Arabic Coffee" is for turkish coffee. Otherwise great description.
I'm not from Saudi Arabia but did spend 10 yrs growing up there.  Saada means plain, as in no sugar, and is used to refer to the arabic coffee (which is very similar to turkish coffee, black and bitter, kind of like an espresso).  Arabiya is also simply arabic coffee.  The lighter coffee shown in the picture I've always known as Saudi coffee.  The serving size is small but refills will keep coming until you give 'the signal' - rocking the cup, which indicates you don't want any more.  Delicious!
i see your point  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.140.147.161 (talk) 00:47, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old discussion

message: I am not an expert on coffee and so prefer to leave a comment on the talk page rather than edit the main page. Although it seems the first historical records of coffee production and drinking are in Yemen, the coffee tree Coffea arabica naturally occurs in the wild in Ethiopia, not in Yemen as far as I know... How would it have come to Yemen if it were not useful or used in some way? Presumably it was discovered in Ethiopia and then taken to Yemen and cultivated and marketed and traded? Should that not be mentioned in this article? Can someone who knows more about coffee edit the page or comments on this?
Kengele (talk) 04:29, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The plant is grown in Yemen Abo Yemen✉ 04:03, 4 July 2023 (UTC)

text: The plant grows in lots of places (now) in the “coffee belt.” But I’m just leaving an exhibit on coffee at the National Museum of Qatar. They also say coffee originated in Eithiopia and from there was introduced to Yemen. 172.58.139.156 (talk) 13:55, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: The origin of coffee

message: How do you make Gahwa? (Arabic Coffee) ?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zybez (talk • contribs) 03:47, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: hi ! here is the method I know: first, boil a water, till the water bubbles goes up.Then, add 2.5 arabic coffee-cup of a brown roasted coffee ( the coffee beans is bought green not roasted yet, then you roast it transforming its color into brown not black ) then boil it again and again (every time the bubbles goes up remove it from fire then put it again) and that is why in saudi arabia we said "is the coffee still been cooked ?" ( إلى الحين و القهوة تطبخ ؟ ) not made (( you cooke the coffee but you don't made it in KSA )) but it should not take more than 20 min's. Afas1407 (talk) 21:43, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How do you make it? 

message: I took this from a web site that may be beneficial to you. from  and .Afas1407 (talk) 22:15, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Read this please. It may help you 

message: Hello i'm a native Saudi and Arabic speaker, and have been around Gahwah (Arabic coffee) my whole life, i hope i can be of help to this article. 
first of all, this page might help as it sums up most of the basic information on Gahwah: Kuwait Times Website 
-I'd like to suggest redirecting from 'gahwah' to here since its the local pronunciation of Arabic Coffee (i searched Kahwa and came up with a different but similar article about an Indian drink) 
- Gahwah is basically grounded roasted-coffee beans with cardamum, but the combination of coffee beans with other ingredients is also popular and varies greatly depending on the region and personal preference. Some people would rather replace Cardamum with ground Barley seeds correction: they replace the ground coffee beans with ground Barley (I've never tasted this variation but the old men in the eastern-province villages perfer it because they feel it doesn't promote hypertension as much as Cardamum coffee beans do, i'm not sure if its medically proved though) Some other variations might include spices usually used in local cuisine such as Saffaron or rose water, and some gahwah-specific spices exist and is mixed and sold in small quantities in local shops and supermarkets. (I might be able to take a photo of the gahwah spices if i have any unopened ones.) 
- Recently, the cups for Gahwah are more decorated and are made from several materials (glass and ceramic being the most popular, i'll see if i have taken any presentable pictures of those) and are sold in 12-piece packs. gahwah is always paired up with Tea as they are almost always offered together, so shops that sell Gahwah-making tools almost always display it side-by-side with Tea making tools and Tea cups (Biala in Arabic) and tea is offered to guests that do not drink Gahwah and to the younger people they bring along (their children or relatives) as gahwah is too bitter to their taste and high on caffeine. 
-Most people consider Gahwah an acquired-taste due to its bitterness, and personally i had no idea why anyone would want to drink something that tasted as awful. but with dates (Especially Eastern-grown palm-tree dates that are extra sweet) it makes perfect sense as the sweetness of the dates levels the bitterness to an acceptable flavor. Nowadays, gahwah drinkers offer home-made sweets or chocolate with gahwah when no dates are available, or when wishing to give the guest more choices to have with their gahwah. 
-Gahwah serving manners are almost always strictly followed when in the presence of a guest or in a ceremony or event, but at home it is more at-ease and gahwah drinkers would rather pour for themselves in any cup they have available (even paper cups) it is worth mentioning that with formal gahwah drinking events, it is impolite to pour gahwah to oneself, instead the host of the event or the youngest person in the household should pout it out himself. 
-Serving Gahwah in formal events has a hierarchy, Older men before younger men, important persons before the less important. If the ceremony involves separate seating spots (for example wedding receptions) Gahwah is usually poured in a counter-clockwise pattern, first the person to the far right of the seats, and then the one after him, and so on till the last person seated. after that the Gahwaji would go back to the first person served to refill his cup, and resume the circle all over again. 
- it is considered highly improper for a younger person to receive gahwah from an older person, and extremely insulting to receive it with the left hand. it is also highly insulting to pour gahwah with the Dallah in the right hand and Cup in the left, and end up offering gahwah with the left hand. 
-in less-formal meetings (such as family events or a friends' gathering) it is less restricting and anyone may pour his own gahwah or tea as many times (young-male gatherings tend to be even less formal as to allow self-service to gahwah and tea which are always available at any time)  
i'm not sure where to find as much information about gahwah in websites or books for refference, as all this information comes from learning from my grandmother, serving gahwah in several occasions and simply watching things happen in their specific order. my father is also very strict when it comes to gahwah manners so i'm pretty confidant with my information. 
i'd also like to add that gahwah flavorings and manners may differ from one region to another, i live in the eastern province of Saudi Arabia so insight from other places might be educational to me and wikipedia articles. --Ren (talk) 11:02, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arabic Coffee - Gahwah 

message: there are two kind of Arabic coffee 
1. that made in Blad al sham coffee
2. Bedouin coffee  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mewoone (talk • contribs) 16:36, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I edited to make these two methods distinct, pulling information found in the Talk section as well as reviewing online coffee recipes.Dan Bollinger (talk) 16:43, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  two kind of Arabic coffee !  

message: In the infobox image are shown 3 coffees which are described as "qahwa shāqra, qahwa benih, and qahwa sādah" ---- where does this classification come from? For one thing, the word "benih" is not an Arabic word. For another, the phrase qahwa sādah is normally used to describe unsweetened Turkish coffee, as opposed to qahwa ziyada (Turkish coffee with "extra sugar")or qahwa mazbūt (Turkish coffee with sugar "just right").  Confusing matters further, the article then speaks about qahwa sādah being served in "tiny cups", although the image of qahwa sādah is not in a "tiny cup". Is it possible that this article is confusing Arabic coffee with Turkish coffee?  The manner of preparation, the way of serving ("The portions are small, covering just the bottom of the cup") all indicate the coffee that is prepared and served in Saudi Arabia and the Gulf nations, but not elsewhere in the Arab world. This watery, unsweetened, light yellowish-brown brew is what should be called "Arabic coffee" and is what is described in this article. I think it is misleading to throw in a picture of Turkish coffee (which is labelled "qahwah benih"-- whatever benih means). In any case, I think the article needs to be re-thought in terms of classification of coffee beverages consumed in the Arab world.--Akhooha (talk) 00:36, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I am an Arab but I hope that I will not be Turkish by the end. If the coffee is Arabic origin from Yemen and the Turks inherit it. Turkish culture and Turkish language are very influenced by Arab culture and Arabic. Even the word coffee in Turkish "kahve" from Arabic. Arabic coffee varies in types of preparation. You've said the phrase qahwa sādah is normally used to describe unsweetened Turkish coffee, unreasonable! if the Turks say it is Arabic. is called in Turkey (Mırra If you do not speak Turkish you can translate it) the name is derived from Arabic; mura meaning bitter. benih or bunniyya is not an Arabic word well relative adjective (nisba) composed of بُنّ (bunn, “coffee”) + ـِيّ (-iyy) fem بُنِّيَّة (bunniyya) brown, coffee-colored  Brown coffee is famous in Palestine and is similar to Turkish coffee, but the former is spiced with cardamom and is usually unsweetened (There are who prefer it sweetened), which made you say it is Turkish coffee (This type of Arabic coffee is the most drinkable in Palestine (not Turkish but Arabic coffee but the method of preparation differs from traditional)). You are one of the people who consider everything from the Gulf States to be a genuine Arab, this picture of Arabic coffee from Lebanon, although Turkish coffee is also famous in Lebanon, Arabic coffee has enabled it. There are different versions of Arabic coffee, but the traditional version includes cardamom (which you mean). The density of the coffee depends on the taste in general, some prefer heavy and others prefer light, and with or without cardamom. If you can read Arabic you will understand.--Canbel (talk) 23:23, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  إلى الأخ Canbel.  أشكرك على ردك السريع. Thank you for your reply. I see also from the recent changes that you have made to the article that you have dealt with what were the major bones of my contention with the characterization of Arabic coffee; that is to say that you have recognized the differences in serving methods and preparation, whereas before your changes, there was the impression that the serving methods of the Arabian Peninsula were peculiar to ALL types of Arabic coffee. Since I am NOT one of those who think that Peninsula Arabs are the only true Arabs, I had taken exception to this. Now you have fixed the issue and I thank you.  As for "qahwa benih", if by "benih" you mean the word "بُنِّيَّة" then I think "buniyya" is a better transliteration than "benih".  Thank you again for your constructive editing. Akhooha (talk) 18:06, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  شكرًا but I am a girl, are you convinced with the preparation of Arabic coffee and coffee beans.--Canbel (talk) 18:41, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  إلى الأخت Canbel. تحياتي. As for your question about the infobox picture: I see that you have now put in an image of a dallah. That makes 4 pictures of dallahs in the article (although what is labelled "Palestinian dallah" is not a dallah; it is really just a plastic serving thermos and is not something that you could actually brew the coffee in). I think this is an over-emphasis on Peninsula Arab coffee preparation. What about kanaka (also called rikwah or jezwah) (كنكة ، ركوة ، جزوة) ??   Also, if you're going to bring up qahwah buniyya in the caption of an image, you should explain the term in the article. مع خالص التقدير. Akhooha (talk) 16:44, 15 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  تحياتي لك ايضا أخي الكريم. Don't worry I still have a lot of work on the article :).--Canbel (talk) 02:58, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  (do not remove this notation again) like you threatening me. You have no contributions in Wikipedia except Arabic coffee and Arabic tea articles, have you been hired to monitor the articles by the Wikimedia Foundation?. You had to tell me why you put it. Ah--Canbel (talk) 18:55, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  The notation  points out that which is obvious: that the reference immediately placed after a statement does not back up the statement made in the article. One does not have to specifically point out what is lacking in the reference. And one does not remove those notations unless they had been improperly placed. If you felt threatened, then you are misinterpreting the advice not to remove the notations. As for my contributions to WP, they are a bit more than Arabic Coffee and Arabic Tea; 3191 edits and 48 articles created in the English Wikipedia since 2013 and 969 edits and 27 articles created in the Arabic Wikipedia (under usernames of Akhooha and أخوها) since 2013. In any case, my "statistics" (as well as yours) are really irrelevant to the point being discussed. If you make a statement, and back it up with a reference which has nothing at all to do with that statement, you should expect that someone down the line will append your reference with the notation . Thank you for your attention and understanding. Akhooha (talk) 20:51, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:   Please can you look at this, I did not understand him, are the sources put on it  incorrect?.--Canbel (talk) 02:15, 23 April 2017 (UTC)

text: Neil, Thank you.--Canbel (talk) 03:10, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Types of Arabic coffee? Clarification, please 

message: Can this be clarified?
:"...in the Arabian Peninsula, Arabic coffee is roasted in such a way that the coffee is almost clear."
173.88.246.138 (talk) 10:38, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: "in the Arabian Peninsula, Arabic coffee is roasted in such a way that the coffee is almost clear"