Talk:Flash (Jay Garrick)

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thread_title:  Infobox streamlining 

message: Could someone explain why the rewrite and "needs copy editing" headings are there.  The article could maybe use some clean up but I see no reason to rewrite it completely and it is more or less organized at this point.  I'm going to remove the headings, someone else can re-add them if they think it needs it. Editfromwithout (talk) 01:40, 15 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Copy editing and rewrite

message: Would anyone object to a name change to "Flash (Golden Age)"?  He's probably better known by his superhero name, and it isn't like he's had any other identities.  WesleyDodds 04:53, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure it's the best idea. He's seen more appearances since the end of the Golden Age than he did during it, and it looks like he might be a strong supporting character if not the Flash the new Flash comic. I just don't feel that it's really an appropriate name for him. The tendency has been to call variations that merit their own page by their real name (Kal-L, Dick Grayson, Jaime Reyes, Hal Jordan, Wally West, etc.) Maybe a redirect from there.CovenantD 05:14, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've discussed the tendency to name characters by their civilian names elsewhere, and I haven't got a clear response for it.  I can understand using the civilian name if the character has had a number of aliases like Dick Grayson or Hal Jordan, but when it's merely a different version of the same character, I find a lot of inconsistency.  For example, the Sandman and Starman characters are all named with modifiers in parentheses, which I feel really helps searching and disambiguation.  A lot of people don't know these characters' civilian names, and it's a bit much to expect people to.  WesleyDodds 06:16, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What about "Flash (Jay Garrick)"?? Roygbiv666 02:16, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's certainly fine.  As long as "Flash" is there in some form.  Most people if they're interested in searching for the character  through various means for various reasons probably wouldn't be familiar with just "Jay Garrick".  WesleyDodds 22:24, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What makes you think that they'll know to enter Flash (Jay Garrick) then? Of the two, I'd say Jay Garrick is the clearer option. I think it's a really poor naming system, but whatever. CovenantD 23:02, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, there would still need to be the main "Flash (Comics)" entry, but the sub-entires for the various Flashes could be called "Flash (Secret Identity)" Roygbiv666 00:58, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renaming 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Garrick ross.jpg

message: Mention may be helpful, under powers and abilities to list Jay's helmet.  Not only is it a fashionable and stylish nod to the God of Speed, but also it has been used on several occassions as both an offensive and defensive weapon.  I wasn't sure how notable this was, but I wanted to throw the idea out there.66.109.248.114 21:49, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mercury's Helmet

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message: "The Flash soon became one of the best-known of the Golden Age of superheroes." This sentence in the "Justice Society of America" sub-section under "Fictional character biography" has a "citation needed" tag, which I guess has to be addressed, but I think there may be another problem here. What this should mean in this context is that the Flash became well known in-universe, preferrably during a time which would in-universe be thought of and spoken of, at least in retrospect, as "the golden age of comic books". However, the link to Golden Age of comic books - a real world concept, that even if it does exist inside the DC Universe wouldn't from an in-universe perspective necessarily be seen as relevant in discussion of existing "real-life" superheroes - leads at least me to the conflicting interpretation that are more or less out of place in a "fictional biography": that this is about the Flash's real world fame or that, perhaps, it is about his in-universe fame relative to that of other DC Universe heroes who in the real world are associated with "the golden age of comic books". So: Would a DC Universe inhabitant have a concept of a "golden age of superheroes"? If so, is Golden Age of comic books the right article to link to for this concept? If they wouldn't have such a concept, am I right in thinking it's use here is somewhat problematic? In any case, could the sentence be rewritten to be less open to interpretation without negatively affecting readability? Ever wonder (talk) 15:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I take that to mean, of GA characters, Flash was one of the best-known (or best-selling). It has nothing to do with in-universe.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  00:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference to "golden age" in fictional biography 

message: Is that Jan '40 date a cover date or newsstand date?  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  00:32, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speed dating 

message: I was reading about this elsewhere and then came across this wiki article with an origin story for Jay Garrick it occurred to me that I should post some scans from his origin story:
http://i.imgur.com/TjY6E.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/yA4Ss.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/WvG7b.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mjQNh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/5eC5V.jpg
As seen, he wasn't taking a nap near his hard water experiment, he was taking a smoke break and knocked it all onto the floor.  (Also seems he was a rather poor student)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.191.176.74 (talk) 05:31, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin 

message: With the recent continuity changes that New 52 has brought, I think it would be appropriate to split the New 52 section into a new article, named "Flash (Jay Garrick) (New 52)", or something related, especially considering the entire backstory of the character has essentially been wiped clean and replaced.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by BillyHalliday (talk • contribs) 04:07, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creating a separate page for New 52 Garrick? 

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