Talk:.07%

message: According to CBR, the title of this episode is ".07%", not ".07".  (LINDERMAN REVEALS PLANS: "HEROES" CLIP FROM PALEY FESTIVAL  Warning, this source contains spoilers.)  Sorry about the double move, I forgot that an article shouldn't have the (Heroes) disambiguator if no other articles are named .07%.  I only saw List of characters in Heroes and Parasite (Heroes) pointing to this article; if any other pages need fixing due to the move, let me know. - fmmarianicolon | Talk 22:52, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The clip shown at the festival was shown by the show creator and actors, so I'd count it as official.  I added the Nathan and Linderman conversation to the "preview" paragraph because Nathan and Linderman were already conversing in "Parasite".  However, if mentioning that they talk about the explosion is too much of a spoiler, then we can change it to something like "Nathan discusses his future with Linderman." - fmmarianicolon | Talk 18:17, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Much the same with the pics of Sylar meeting up with a certain other Hero that can paint the future.  He may have him on the ground, but is he out for the count?  --Cooleyez229 07:16, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article and episode title 

message: The article states that Nathan and Claire will be reunited. When were they united a first time? --Kmsiever 19:21, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That wording may be a bit inaccurate/speculative. Nathan knew that he had a daughter, so it could be said that he saw her as an infant. Hrm. Thinking on it, I'll change that wording for now. Valaqil 14:44, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nathan & Claire

message: "Peter has a new haircut" - ...what the? Who cares! This is unneeded info! — hippi ippi++++ 08:50, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's important because it tells the difficulties the production team has in the continuity of Peter's hair in scenes. But that's as far as I've read and researched. Aesthetic wise, I think short looks bad on Milo. Berserkerz Crit 09:59, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It also ties into the final scene of the previous episode. --Kmsiever 14:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It happens because Sylar cuts his curl off. Since its an actual show related fact, I think its fine there. Redraf 03:18, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not actually a new haircut.  Check out episode 3, when he's at the formal dinner thing.  It's the EXACT same haircut, just styled differently. 61.68.209.236 09:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

text: There's no scar from his recent encounter with Sylar--it's all healed because of Claire's healing power. In the preview for the next episode, you can see that future Peter has a scar that runs diagonally across his face. That should be the scar that future Hiro was talking about. The question is--why didn't he regenerate from whatever caused that wound so that there'd be no scar? I guess Peter's assumption was wrong--there are some things that he can't (completely) recover from. --Glenn W 17:25, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The latest Graphic Novel "String Theory", may help explain the discrepancy; In the original timeline which led to Future Hiro, Peter had not been warned about "the cheerleader" and had no reason to ever meet Claire, and Syler had killed Claire and absorbed her power. However, after Hiro went back and changed the past by warning Peter, these events were altered. Having now come in contact with Claire as a result of Future Hiro's alteration of the timeline, Peter now has her regeneration power and thus will not be likely to develop a scar. Noclevername 05:32, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I realized shortly afterwards that what we see in the previews is an alternate timeline, not the timeline that we're watching. I had even explained to someone else prior to the hiatus that in our timeline, Peter most likely would never have a scar... Just didn't put two and two together. I thought it's still "our" timeline. --Glenn W 01:34, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I actually thought that the scar could be the result of the explosion, peter being blasted into tiny pieces is sure to leave some kind of mark, even if he can regenerate. If a scar were to form on Peter or Claire, it would not be eliminated by their power, just as their power can't remove a shard of glass or a stick from their necks, it wouldn't be able to remove actual living flesh. Seeing as they heal so quickly in normal situations, there is not chance for scar tissue to appear, but if part of Peter were missing, such as a large section of skull, I'm sure there would be at least minor scarring. And where did the scar come from? Peter was in too much pain to stop Sylar, and only succeeded because he caught him off guard. If Sylar wanted to kill Peter in the alternate timeline, nothing would stop him. 59.167.187.141 15:21, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The thought of Peter's scar as a result of causing the explosion has crossed my mind as well... before I read the latest online Graphic Novel. Peter's not the one who causes the explosion. And if he was close enough in the alternate future, without Claire's regenerative powers, he'd be dead. --Glenn W 21:08, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ...Is this important? 

message: It is mentioned in the article that Sylar uses his super hearing recently aquired to fire the glass in one direction. What actually happened looked more like he fired in every direction without using super hearing. This might be attributed to his inability to use more then one ability at once.
:Didn't he use "the voice" while still pinning Mohinder to the ceiling? An honest quixtar ibo 20:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I remember Sylar hasn't aquired "the voice" that Eden used since she blew her brains off. 213.157.1.51 21:03, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

text: what does having super hearing have to do with  moving an object in one direction? if anything, hearing makes sound waves goes towards you, not the opposite. confused 128.122.253.212 03:19, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing - the idea proposed was that Sylar used enhanced hearing to locate Peter, presumably by listening for his heartbeat, breathing, etc. Sylar could then direct the glass shards in the direction of the sounds. (BTW, hearing in and of itself wouldn't have any effect on sound waves - sounds travelling toward you would still be subject to the same physical laws as with anyone else. Dale, if placed in the vacuum of outer space, wouldn't be able to hear anything at all. Her advantage (and now Sylar's) lies in being able to hear sounds much, much better than everyone else. Hope this helps. --Ckatzchatspy 03:30, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter Sylar fight 

message: "Sylar kills Isaac and absorbs his power, painting a picture of a monstrous-looking Nathan Petrelli in office."  -- Was that really Nathan in Sylar's painting?  Do we have a source to verify that? BaconLover 14:16, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought it was all but guaranteed that Nathan would take office as President, given all the foreshadowing - Isaac's painting, Hiro's trip to the future right before the explosion, and in .07%, Linderman's conversation with Nathan and the news article in future Hiro's apparent base. Sylar's painting seems to be a twisted version of Isaac's earlier painting. All this is perhaps bordering on OR, but there's no reason to assume it's not Nathan, as Sylar has no political aspirations that we've seen... --Pentasyllabic 16:17, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I think it's still Nathan, but somehow in Sylar's painting, the future is different. To me, it looks more like Nathan is sad, than he is "monstrous." --Glenn W 17:27, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Here's the painting in question 74.192.21.115 23:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Its not that Peter is "monstrous", its just that Sylar is not a good painter, unlike Isaac.  The painting just looks amateurish, which makes sense, althought it does essentially give the same future.--Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) 06:18, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: hehe, i think you meant Nathan, although, even if Syler is amateurish, how come Peter was able to mimic his power and complete the painting... hmmm NeoDeGenero 15:40, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't say amateurish, more like "different style." I guess it could be argued that when Peter finished Isaac's painting last time, he did not have mastery over the prophecy painting power yet, so it wasn't "his own," instead, it came out with Isaac's artistry. Sylar's painting would then be more to his own style. Artistic style aside (which would account for Nathan looking "monstrous"), Nathan's posture in the painting suggests sadness, as opposed to the prideful look in Isaac's painting. Personally, I think that's more significant than the style. --Glenn W 01:40, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Could it be that the person painting it adds their own point of view to the image? When Issac painted, it was never photo realistic, but made Sylar a towering shadow, gave Peter something of an aura as he floated off the roof of the building. It could be that for Issac, Nathan being president is a positive thing, something to be proud of, but to Sylar, it is a terrible thing - and the artist paints accordingly... 59.167.187.141 15:10, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Any consideration to the fact that Sylar and Peter's powers, while similar, are different? Peter appears to 'record' the impression of another - he 'remembers' how it feels about another persons power. It is possible that he 'records' more than just the  super power of someone and remembers skills/abilities/knacks - hence getting Issac's ability to paint as well as a Seer. Sylar appears more to have to study another's power to gain the ability (get inside the brain) - Sylar certainly appears to be the type to ignore learning anything but the flashy superpower. To put it another way, its might be possible that Peter can remember 'normal' people's skills (like a highly skilled Surgeon) if he set himself to it. Ravend 04:37, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After watching Five Years Gone, its clear that the painting is in fact Sylar himself - any objections to me changing this on the page?The dead don 21:55, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sylar's painting at the end

message: For the record I agree wit Dposse's edit removing the length tag. Heroes has quite a complicated plot and thus justifies that extra bit of meat, I'm sure it could be copy edited down a bit and made more succinct but I don't think the length tag is needed. Matthew 17:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that Heroes needs a bit more text to describe the plots, but at 13 paragraphs the summary is currently far longer than needed. The summary is almost double the length of a typical House' summary. Per WP:PLOT, it's not necessary to discuss every plot point in the article. I'm going to re-add the tag since the summary needs more than minor pruning. ChazBeckett 17:46, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I cleaned it up a bit. I deleted some details and merged alot of sentences. How is it now? dposse 22:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: length 

message: In the article it says that Linderman has the ability to "heal himself and others", yet on his charcter page, it only says he can heal others. I thought he was only able to heal other things, not himself. And if he could heal himself, wouldn't that kind of make the concept of Claire's power inferior to his? Although in the episode when Nathan asks him "What do you know about healing?", Linderman responds "I know quite a bit". Maybe he was refering to healing himself as in a state of mind?
Can someone please explain to me specificaly what Linderman's power is? Vic93 20:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't recall Linderman ever using his power on himself, so that bit should probably be removed as speculation. --Pentasyllabic 21:06, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If I recall correctly from the online graphic novel, Linderman did say something about how healing others takes some toll on himself. So he might not be able to heal himself, although it isn't impossible. From what we've seen, he just needs to lay his hand(s) on someone or something to induce healing. So he could theoretically lay his hands on his own wounds to heal them. Whether he can or not, at this point, would be pure speculation. But supposing that he can, I wouldn't exactly call Claire's self-healing power "inferior." Claire's power is "automatic." Her wounds heal without any conscious thought, so she can easily recover from near-fatal wounds, as long as the offending object is removed. If Linderman is capable of healing himself, he would not be able to do so after he loses consciousness. --Glenn W 01:49, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What is to say that Claire and Linderman's powers aren't the same? There are only so many genes that can exist in so many combinations, maybe Linderman's ability to heal other things is a future potential development of Claire's power. At this stage, we only know that he can heal others however, and therefore, any articles about it should state only that. Anything else is only speculation. We can't possibly know for certain until it appears in an episode. (Also, we have not seen Linderman use his power on himself as he has only been in one and a half episodes so far, and all of that has been conversation with Nathan.) 59.167.187.141 15:02, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is possible that Claire's ability might develop into one that can heal others, but that's all speculative. If you read the Graphic Novels, Linderman's ability manifested quite differently from that of Claire's from the very beginning. So no, they are not the same. --Glenn W 21:11, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linderman's Power 

message: Would it be appropriate to include a criticism that .07% plotline of the destruction of New York by a former hero bears a striking resemblance to the plot of the Alan Moore Graphic Novel 'Watchmen'? Here is a link which discusses the issue
http://www.nypost.com/seven/04242007/entertainment/heroes_pulls_rug_from_under_watchmen_entertainment_stephen_lynch.htm
:It's an interesting link - and thanks for providing it. As for inclusion, however, I'd be inclined to say no. Why? Because the article doesn't actually provide any proof that there is a controversy. It speculates about one, makes an argument for it, but in the end cannot support the assertion. Tim Kring is unavailable for comment, Zack Synder is "probably" ticked off (but doesn't actually comment) - sounds as if the Post is trying to drum up a bit of a controversy to sell papers. Thoughts? --Ckatzchatspy 05:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Ckatz. It shouldn't be included. dposse 17:44, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw the episode first and when I realised the similarities between the two, I found many forums about it. I saw on IMDB that someone mentioned the similarities to Tim Kring who replied that he has never read a comic book, although this was not credited to any source. Could a "Trivia" section be added, detailing references to poular culture, and mentioning Watchmen? Heroes is almost certainly inspired by a number of comics - X-men (Evolutionary mutations, Claire/Wolverine's powers) to name one. As if no one on the production/writing team hasn't read Watchmen and could have mentioned the similarities to Kring. I think Its worth mentioning. 59.167.187.141 14:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Per WP:TRIV, trivia sections are to be avoided on wikipedia. dposse 16:17, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism - Similarity to Watchmen Plotline 

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