Category talk:Emo musical groups

message: why are they on the list? it's emotive HARDCORE.
no, i agree - Dashboard Confessional are definitely emo! Woodgreener 22:35, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dashboard Confessional

message: they are definitely emo lol.. why arent they here
add them then... by the way i think we can delete some of these. fall out boy and panic at the disco? they seem more like pop rock to me--Terronez 02:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: MATCHBOOK ROMANCE

message: They're not emo...--209.30.228.158 18:11, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The emo "stereotype" we use today really has nothing to do with emo. And emo is also not a look.
haha Fallout Boy emo...... in my opinion they're not and i've never heard anyone call them emo until i saw them on the article--HurricaneRo 00:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

text: They are Emo.--WhereAmI 06:08, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: FALL OUT BOY

message: Should Simple Plan be added? It's debated whether they are pop-punk, or emo. --Stonesour025 07:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Simple Plan

message: Dashboard Confessional is an acoustic pop-rock band.
Rites of Spring is an underground band inspired by the hardcore scene, but against the violence it caused in venues. They are heavy, raw, uncomprimising, and very punkish---but have deep, introverted lyrics. That is emo. 
THANK YOU, JESUS.
Dashboard is not inspired by the hardcore punk scene, they don't have a raw, uncompromising sound. They're not underground. In fact, they're worshipped by nearly every preppy, teenage girl in America who watches MTV. The whole cheerleading squad at my school listens to them. That's not underground. That's not punk, hardcore, or emo. 
The simple facts are Dashboard Confessional:
1. Aren't emo. 
2. Have nothing to do with emo.
There, [/rant].
hah.... have u heard screaming infedelities? or again i go unnoticed??? The lyrics are definitlety emo
Your mom's dick is definitely emo. :O
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEtKRAvWvCY&feature=channel_video_title
^Chris Carrabba interview.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.30.249.143 (talk) 11:10, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does Dashboard repeatedly get put back in this category? 

message: I do agree with all of you that most of the said bands up there aren't true Emo. But most are punk:Pop-Punk or Post-Hardcore. But still related to Emo distantly. I'm not saying that these bands should be on this page. But I would really appreaciate it if you stop bashing these bands just because they are popular(they all used to be underground anyway). It's not the bands themselves that are putting their names on the list. It's a random fan that doesn't know his or her musical history.
I don't know one of those bands that actually claim to be Emo, Emotional maybe...But not Emo the musical genre.
Btw...Someone put Hawthorne Heights on the page again.
And remember they are related to Punk...And don't cling, because true punk along with true emo..Is dead.
IAngelofFuryI 00:15, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Annoyed 

message: Thursday is not emo. Period.
:That is not a logical argument, you need to provide at least some form of reasoning. Besides that, Thursday should probably be on this list as many people consider them to be emo, whether you, personally, feel that they are emo or not is not relevant. Greg 02:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thursday 

message: There seems to be a lot of argument on this talk page, with not many people providing actual reasoning. I think the main problem here is that the definition at the beginning of this category is no clear enough. I suggest that the blurb at the beginning has some sort of disclaimer such as:
"This is a list of bands that are considered by a number of people as being emo. As there are many definitions of emo, there is much disagreement in relation to many of these bands and their status as "emo". A band being listed on this page does not necessarily mean it is emo, as this can not be accurately defined, it simply means that a number of people consider the band to be emo in some way."
I think another issue here is that people are taking this far too personally. This category isn't a list of bands that you consider emo, nor is it a list of bands that are universally considered emo, as this would be impossible. Don't take it as an insult if a band you like is placed on this list, it doesn't mean you are then "emo", and you don't need to be offended. I think it might be helpful for some people editing this page to take a look at the Emo article here, especially the history section. A good point to note is that "in many cases, the term has simply been attached to them because of musical similarites, a common fashion sense, or because of the band's popularity within the "emo" scene, not because the band adheres to emo as a music genre." Finally, take a look at the quote by Guy Picciotto. I wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment, and as such I don't take offence to being called emo, or to listening to bands that people call emo. I think it is a much better philosophy to adopt than taking 'emo' as an insult. That said, while emo is a meaningless term, it is still far too common to be ignored by Wikipedia. So while it must be included in Wikipedia, I think it should be done in a much more rational fashion. Greg 02:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarify 

message: interesting that only about 4% of the bands in the list are emobands, the rest are just mtv-poprock/wannabe-metal  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Realmeneatcorn (talk • contribs) 18:32, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: hm...

message: If you don't at least know of cap'n jazz, don't even bother editing this. there's my opinion. Caribouforyou (talk) 00:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: who should edit

message: Should we put Linkin Park on the list since their music is about emo stuff, or is it just metal? I was just wondering that while I looked at the list.--Lover of Itachi (talk) 15:10, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question. 

message: Emo is not My Chemical Romance. Emo is not Taking Back Sunday. I don't have anything against these bands, in fact I rather enjoy them. But they are not emo. Today's definition of Emo is not what Emo really is. Emo was a DIY movement that spawned punk/hardcore bands like Fugazi and Rites of Spring, as well as groups like Jimmy Eat World (their early stuff, mostly), Braid, The Promise Ring, and The Get Up Kids. Emo is NOT short for "emotional". Fall Out Boy isn't emo. Dashboard Confessional  isn't Emo. Atreyu isn't Emo. This article needs some SERIOUS edits.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rwiggum (talk • contribs) 17:22, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  To those who don't actually know what emo IS... 

message: I would also like to metion for those of you who have your hearts set on Pete Wentz that "emo" can describe a lot of different teen culture crazes such as fashion, adittude, cliques, ect. But in this case, it's referring to bands. Emo music is defined by the tone, which is heard through the artist's lyrics. It's often to do with pain, suffering, depression, and all that jazz. If you have one band which is dressed in clothes from Hot Topic with eyeliner and peircings in places your mothers wouldn't recognize, yet they're singing about bunnies and sinshine, they're not emo. If you have another band which is singing about misery, pain, and suicide, their emo. Panic! At the Disco is not emo, yet if there was a randomness catagory of bands, then they could fit in. Fall Out Boy is not emo. Emos don't obsess over sex, guns, and other New York City cliches. Paramore is not emo, although it doesn't really matter if they are or not; it's unchangeable now. Three Days Grace is emo, hence their songs about suffering as in "Pain", "Animal I have Become", "Never Too Late", and "Riot". Evanescene is emo. One time listening to "Tourniquit", and you'll never change your mind. Hawthorne Heights is probably the perfect example of an emo band. They talk about depressing topics in about every song. Now what shouldn't be discussed is people saying "Yeah, but this band is post-modern grunge! Not emo! Delete them for God's sake!" When you get into discussions like that talking about the style or genre of a song. Alternative, Grunge, Heavy Metal, ect. Those are all genres. Emo is not a genre. as I said earlier, emo is a tone. I hope that people will read this and take what I have to say into consideration please. Thank you for your time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Notnilc11 (talk • contribs) 15:57, 8 June 2008
:These are your opinions, and do not belong on Wikipedia unless you can source them. I've never seen Evanescence classified as Emo except by fans who don't really understand the term, and two of my Emo-listening friends have wholeheartedly disclaimed that idea. It comes down to "Find Sources" supporting the idea that any given group should be classified as Emo, otherwise it is just original research. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 03:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: I think Chiodos should be in Emo cause both there PureVoulme and My space say it.And Emery Should be in it as well cause there video that Tooth and nail put (there lable)the music Genre they put them in was Screamo and Emo there video was called Disguising Mistakes With Goodbyes  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Haloblade345 (talk • contribs) 00:27, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chiodos and Emery 

message: I've got just a great idea.  Let's stop crying about "verifiable sources", and actually think, eh?  Just because it's in the rules, doesn't mean it's right.
But, most importantly, get BrokeNCYDE off of that list!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.172.237.115 (talk) 01:47, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ?