Talk:Marie Yovanovitch

message: This article is a talking point for the impeachment machine.  Very simply, the president of United States has the power to remove diplomats  for any or no reason.2601:243:CC00:FF30:F477:4935:2968:A4B3 (talk) 15:20, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: See the top of the page.  This is the page for discussing improvements for the article. Very simply put, it is not for discussing the subject of the article or presidential powers. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 16:47, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  They are saying that the article is POV ... i.e., that it violates NPOV.  Which is a valid topic for this discussion page.   Joseph A. Spadaro (talk) 22:00, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Audio leak has clearly shown the motive for Yovanovitch being fired. Not a transcript, not a news article, actual audio that anyone can hear. Why does this article still present debunked allegations? I am quite shocked to see what looks like partisan hackery on Wikipedia, of all places...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.61.207.181 (talk) 19:13, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

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message: "Get rid of her!" is what the voice that appears to be Trump’s is heard saying. "Get her out tomorrow. I don't care. Get her out tomorrow. Take her out. OK? Do it." 
nytimes.com: Tape Made Public of Trump Discussing Ukraine With Donors  
Where is the best place in the article to mention that ? --Neun-x (talk) 18:32, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: That audio leak also provides context which debunks many previous claims, albeit media reporting is focusing only on the last quote, seletively omitting the context (i.e. the reason for the firing, which is clearly stated in the leaked audio)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.61.207.181 (talk) 19:18, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  April 2018 / Trump @ donor dinner  

message: This is extremely biased as many articles on Wiki is.  
"Yovanovitch's removal preceded a July 2019 phone call by Trump in which he attempted to pressure Ukraine president Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Biden."
Even the president of Ukraine himself said he was not pressured, so why do Wikipedia think this is a fact?  And did he ever mention Biden specifically?   Ukraine's involvement in the US election in favor of Hillary is well known, so there is a lot that can be investigated.  While it is likely that Biden is within the scope, this is just pursuing justice.  There is no way the ukrainian president could be pressured either because he didn't know the money were held back.   So please reformulate this and many other sentences.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.247.252.140 (talk) 21:17, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Everything that you wrote is factually incorrect, other than what you quoted from the page. – Muboshgu (talk) 22:00, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

text: , Yovanovitch not hanging up Trump's photo is a falsehood. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:41, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is extremely biased.   

message: Why this article is so biased against Mr Trump. Marie Yovanovitch has clearly been disloyal to Trump from the beginning of his presidency. She never hanged his president's picture in the embassy even before the Ukraine Scandal. Why does this mean? Thiermub (talk) 13:26, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Fact-free posts about the subject of the article do nothing to help us improve the article.  If you have actual suggestions backed up by citations to independent, reliable sources, then please make them. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:51, 1 February 2020 (UTC)

text: , sources demonstrate the Trump photo thing is false. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:42, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome to Wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.12.22.47 (talk) 05:59, 7 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biased article 

message: THe Ukraine is embroiled in a battle of 3 policital factions.  George Soros Obama adminstration backed efforts and various associated PAC's over there,  pro Russian groups and Pro capitalism groups.  Biden and the Obama adminstration went back and forth on who they would support inside the Ukraine government depending on whether they supported their agenda or not.  The investigation of Burisma was first opened, then closed, then prevented from being opened by Biden demanding they fire the prosecutor who was about to reopen it.  Yovanovitch blocked VISA's of Ukrainian justice department officials, who were trying to come to the US to provide their findings.  Talk about cover up.  Fiona Hill, in a Washington post article, basically conceded Ukraine to Russia, because in the article, she publically stated that Ukraine was not in the US's interests as much as Russia's was.  What a foolish door opener to Putin.  This was in concert with Obama never giving lethal aid during his entire presidency.  And with Biden directing energy sector aid to Ukraine, and Burisma directly benefiting, and then sending 6 million dollars back channeled to US banks for the Bidens,  there was absolutely a reason to go after Joe Biden.  And Yovanovitch defied the president's policies,  and in fact probably committed crimes by lying under oath,  holding back visa's for state directed affairs.  And there's reason to believe that she was the one that gave the do not investiage list to the new Ukrainian investigator.  Names that were on George Soro's team.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C64:427F:E879:78DE:14CF:5A78:B13B (talk) 17:27, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, Glenn Beck and John Solomon. Paragons of sourcing.  Viktor Shokin not getting a visa was absolutely the right call. Everything else in this paragraph is more right wing spin not based in reality, potentially originating from the Russian troll farm. – Muboshgu (talk) 17:38, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's not the purpose of wikipedia do define what’s “right” or wrong, and certainly not yours. Article should state the facts, and let the readers reach their own conclusions. Did she denied visas, yes or no? If yes, then it should be mentioned here, as a fact. And, a person with an obvious bias, calling others trolls and deciding (on a political matter) what is “right”, instead of sticking to the facts, should not be an administrator.Andru nl (talk) 07:43, 10 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yovanovitch blocking VISA's 

message: I recently met Maria and her birthday is November 8th, not November 11th. 108.35.127.186 (talk) 20:22, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Muboshgu (talk) 20:44, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 30 July 2020 

message: I replaced "ouster" with "ousting" as the noun to describe her expulsion. Another editor reverted my edit. Perhaps it is a "horrible americanism" too (ouster) but it sounds more like the person who ousts rather than the act.Perhaps I should not jest, but the impetus  to muster against this jouster (without being a fuster) has lustre.— ⦿⨦⨀Tumadoireacht Talk/Stalk 08:32, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ouster versus Ousting as noun? 

message: Considering that she was born in Montreal, she is a natural-born Canadian citizen. As there is no evidence that she ever renounced her Canadian citizenship, I changed her description as Canadian-American. Jusfiq (talk) 23:49, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canadian-American? 

message: I think it is important to mention that she was making weird and wrong claims about Ukrainians being corrupt and it being their fault that she was ousted. 
This made her very unpopular in Ukraine and i think it would be important to add that to her page. FleekRush (talk) 22:56, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You're going to have to present some reliable sources. – Muboshgu (talk) 23:32, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable Things said?