Talk:Avatar: The Last Airbender/Archive 4

message: I was looking at the history and someone made an edit removing spoilers from the article (they even mentioned what they did in their edit summary). I went to the spoiler warning site and it said you should not create spoiler-free alternatives as another option to readers. Should we revert the edit? Parent5446(Murder me for my actions) 01:23, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: that was me and i believed that the premise of the Carchters section was to give a basic summary about them, not to mention future plot points. if they want to find out more, they are free to see the carchter pages. Thank you for not accussing me by the way. The Placebo Effect 01:32, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoilers 

message: Someone randomly decided the characters needed their own list, and made one. The page provides absolutely nothing: it is a direct copy of the character section on this page. I move to delete it. Y BCZ 17:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character page 

message: I would just like to note that the article is currently 48 kilobytes, 16 KB larger than the 32 KB limit as set by Wikipedia:Article size. The limit is not a binding rule, but if you read the section on readability, you will find that most people would give up half way down the page because of it's length. They only want a short, concise summary of the show. I suggest that portions of the page be split into their own separate articles. (Ghostexorcist 17:55, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not directly agree but I would like to know which parts you want to move. Parent5446(Murder me for my actions) 19:02, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll let someone else more involved with the page decide on the matter.(Ghostexorcist 21:48, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page size 

message: "Despite the fact that Wood and Metal are not pure bending elements in the Avatar world, the recent incorporations of “plantbending” (seen in “The Swamp”) and “metalbending” (seen in “The Guru”) respectively emulate these two other elements presented in the five elements of classical Taoism."
We've seen other "elements" bent as well (Lightning, Sand, I'm sure there are or will be others), but they are always part of the four basic elements.  Even the "plantbender" stated that he was only bending the water in the plants ("The Swamp"), and the Guru states that "...even Metal is just a part of Earth that has been purified." (Right before Toph learns to bend it in "The Guru")
This reference would ignore "Air" (which is not present in the classic five elements of Chinese Taoism), which is hardly valid, given the name of the show.
I realize that it's just a call-back to the earlier reference to Chinese Taoism, however, the declarative nature of the statement makes it appear fact, when it's not.  Reference removed. --Snicker 01:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree with the removal, not only are these no more special than other special bendings, but they specifically mention that they're not bending either metal or wood, just water and earth within the plants and metal walls. JBK405 01:50, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don’t like the change, but since there is no real reference for the statement, it needed to go. I've changed the part that mentions Taoism to include a link to the Five elements (Chinese philosophy). (Ghostexorcist 02:13, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elements: Plantbending / Metalbending