Talk:Dragaera

message: Shouldn't we include Jhereg?  Wikibofh(talk) 13:49, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure there's enough evidence to support jhereg as an intelligent species.  Really, we've seen one case -- Loiosh -- and one could argue that he's a special case, being Vlad's familiar. --Pyran 18:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intelligent species 

message: A fairly novel (or at least distinctive) aspect to Dragaera is that magic has no spiritual attachment to it.  It is treated as technology, with a bit of philosophical musing at times, but never in a religious or spiritual manner.  Unless somebody can cite otherwise?  Certainly the predominant treatment in the novels is magic as a functional trade rather than a mystical one.  71.58.60.115 01:25, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the Overview section of the Dragaeran Empire mentions that magic serves as a replacement for technology. Also, I don't think that magic being separate from religion or deities is very novel for a fantasy series. As I recall, arguably the two most popular fantasy series out right now, Wheel of Time and Sword of Truth, contain magic that doesn't have anything to do with gods or religion. Also, Dragaeran magic is mixed up a bit in divinity. Witchcraft has something to do with worship of deities, as seen by Vlad and Morrolan's devotion to Verra being an aspect of their witchcraft. Sorcery and the Orb are also entwined somewhat with the Jenoine and the gods. On the whole I don't think it's safe to start claiming that Dragaera's magic is somehow unique in any particular regard. That kind of assertion would have to be cited anyway, and I don't expect to find that citation. -Captain Crawdad 06:35, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

text: It's taken from the "Small, Invisible Lights" essay that the article references several times. In it, Brust writes, "The overcast may, if you are so inclined, be considered pollution. It is the result of sorcerers casually using magic for war, pleasure, and taking out the garbage for something like two hundred thousand years." -Captain Crawdad (talk) 01:41, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magic as Technology 

message: "Their lifespans are greatly enhanced" -- this would imply that there is some outside effect upon their lifespans.  As far as I know (two books behind!), their lifespans as a species are naturally a few thousand years.  Certainly the Interregnum had no effect and Teckla who can't afford magic live that long. 74.179.192.4 (JabberWokky@WikiSpot) 14:02, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Dragaeran lifespans are "greatly enhanced" as compared with the baseline humans the Jenoine made them from. —chaos5023 (talk) 21:51, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enhanced lifespans? 

message: I made some Dragaera userboxes, available at this page. :) Jenphalian (talk) 05:50, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Userboxes 

message: The website that was formerly referenced as "Small Invisible Lights" has been gone for many years, but an archived version exists on the Wayback Machine.* The link so labeled in the "References" section is was the same URL as the Dzurlord introduction, which is also titled "Small Invisible Lights"; I've changed it to point to the Wayback copy. (The name refers to the stars, which cannot be seen from the Empire because of the Overcast; no, I don't remember where the reference is.)
* See Cracks and Shards: list of other Dragaera websites.
Thnidu (talk) 05:18, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small Extinguished Lights 

message: It might be a good idea to note that it is set in a cosmology of neighboring alternate universes (often called planes in the books), as it pops up now and then and ties into the Jenoine's (and Necromancer's) non-three-dimensional thinking and perception.  Sethra the Younger's punishment (in Yendi?  One of the first three books) is in yet another universe, and time travels differently there.  I seem to recall (uncertain) that there has been hints that our Earth is another plane of existence parallel to Dragaera.  It has been years, so I can't recall where or how explicit the notion is.  It may have just been a passing suggestion in one of the books.  If it was explicit, it would be relevant to the topic of cosmology.  I would suggest that Halls of Judgement might be moved there as well. 74.240.193.87 (talk) 16:01, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Steve talks with Paarfi and receives transmissions (via the "strange box") from Vlad, so our universe is certainly in the same multiverse. I'd get the references from Cracks and Shards if it were still up; I hope to get it up again (but not this month or next!). --Thnidu (talk) 02:08, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greater Cosmology