Talk:Mainland Southeast Asia

message: The ideal map for the historical colony would be something from the 1920-1940 timeframe, illustrating how contemporaries saw it. There are a couple around the net, only PD of the colony I saw was an 1885, useful but not reflective of the later-established boundaries. A supplemental map would be a modern regional map highlighting countries, a la West Africa. Stan 14:17, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maps 

message: Every source that I have consulted says that "Indochina" means the mainland peninsula in Southeast Asia. It is not exactly the same as "French Indochina", which is an historical term. So, at the risk of causing a major uproar, I shall adjust things accordingly. Kelisi 03:29, 16 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaning of term 

message: Is the Peninsular considered as part of Indochina? I doubt it so. Despite the peninsular is not an island, history has already considered the peninsular as part of maritime SEA. In fact, the sultanate of malacca was considered a maritime empire instead of agrarian, as all other indochinese empires were. __earth July 8, 2005 01:37 (UTC)
:I kind of agree with you. Geografically speaking, yes, the peninsula is part of the Euro-Asia continent, but historically, it isn't. Most of the kingdoms that once rule the peninsula like Lembah Bujang kingdom and Malacca are maritime kingdom. The term Indochina is usually used for historical reason thus the peninsula is not part of Indochina, yet it's part of Malay archipelago. 141.213.240.242 04:54, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peninsular Malaysia 

message: Indo-European, Indo-Germanic, Indonesian (one word because the nesia part is from Greek for island); the map itself reads Indo-China- how did the title become Indochina?  Paul venter 17:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Indochina, Indo-China or IndoChina

message: how is laos and thailand under indian influence. laos people have chinese style names, and thailand has a much larger chinese population than indian. not to mention thailand takes rmb. can you say the same for rupis.
:You ought to do a little more research.  Thailand and Laos owes much of its culture to India, but you can't say the same for China.  4.239.66.137 (talk) 20:00, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  indian influence 

message: What is the histroical origin of the term? When was it first used and by whom? Dan Gluck 14:56, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, would want to know that. 202.54.176.51 (talk) 11:08, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of term 

message: The English text badly needs editing and correcting as it is peppered with linguistic mistakes almost to the point of illegibility.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.135.211.43 (talk) 11:13, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: earlier comment

message: This article is still questionable - it does not have adequate WP:RS to be sufficiently explained as to the broader usage - or when it was used, and the usual usage now.
I believe the move proposed and abandoned above still leaves an inadequately sourced article to carry the broad claim that it is carrying.  satusuro 13:41, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Short of a Prod - Need for WP:RS 

message: On 26 February, User:Crisco 1492 unilaterally renamed the page from Indochina to Mainland southeast Asia (which should actually be Mainland Southeast Asia, with a capital S). This is despite discussion in the above section providing no consensus to rename the article. His assertion that "No sources indicate Indochina being used outside the French Indochina meaning" is faulty. See https://books.google.com/books?id=g3oajnKzUNEC&lpg=PA1&dq=Indochinese%20Peninsula&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false for an example discussion of the term. Some of the removed content should probably be restored. --Paul_012 (talk) 15:41, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The source you cited says explicitly that it would be misleading to use the term "Indochina" in a broad geographical sense because it was preempted by the French. Srnec (talk) 19:52, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

text: *And the capitalization issue can be fixed easily. If you wanted to add referenced material discussing the terminology used to refer to MSA, feel free. — Crisco 1492 (talk) 23:33, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undiscussed move by Crisco 1492 

message: Isn't there many Indochina jokes out there about Sub-Loirean Frenchmen? Maybe this could be listed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:411:1600:226:8FF:FEDC:FD74 (talk) 23:57, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sub-Loirean France and Indochina 

message: I've created a new Indochina article to serve as a WP:CONCEPTDAB per the suggestions above, and renamed this article. I chose Mainland Southeast Asia as the target only because it wasn't being held up by a redirect, as Indochinese Peninsula was. If someone thinks that title is better, I've no objections.
There's still the huge task of checking the whole lot of incoming links to Indochina and redirecting them here as appropriate. --Paul_012 (talk) 02:49, 8 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Zoupan, the Indochina article was purposely created as a separate WP:CONCEPTDAB article in order to avoid the naming issues repeatedly discussed in the multiple sections above. Are there any reasons in particular that you think the action should be reversed? --Paul_012 (talk) 14:45, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  May 2017 merge tag 

message: reconsider renaming Mainland Southeast Asia to Indochina. Wikipedia:Moving a page --Fallywaky (talk) 20:30, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  <span id="We need to rename this page back to Indochina of to a name of the sorts. I would like to request a move."></span>March 2019 

message: "Greater Indochina" include places like "Singapore (a civilization)" and places like Bali. 137.59.221.36 (talk) 09:17, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greater Indochina 

message: Indochina peninsular clearly has two parts French Indochina and British Indochina. 27.3.1.116 (talk) 00:16, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither has existed for decades. CMD (talk) 01:41, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Chipmunkdavis Just because it hasn't been around for decades doesn't mean it never existed. Please respect my edits. 27.3.1.116 (talk) 03:23, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

text: @Chipmunkdavis to let everyone know that this region used to have two subregions in the past. Vietnamese people still think that Indochina only have three countries: Vietnam (Việt), Lao (Lào) and Cambodia (Cam). Thailand (Thái), Myanmar (Miến) and West Malaysia (Tây Mã) does not belong to this region 27.3.1.116 (talk) 03:32, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not a historical article, it is about a current area. The information you seek is already included in the Terminology section, appropriately put into its historical context. CMD (talk) 03:59, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Source  27.3.1.116 (talk) 04:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That source is in French, and from 1830. It is not very useful for current usage in English. CMD (talk) 04:10, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Chipmunkdavis I see you're giving me a hard time. What source is the source, what about how many non-source segments ? 27.3.1.116 (talk) 04:12, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

text: @Chipmunkdavis this is all i have. Hope you understand. 27.3.1.116 (talk) 04:13, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I do understand that the term was used in 1830. It is not used now. CMD (talk) 04:23, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

text: As stated above, the warranted mention is already in the Terminology section. There might be room for expansion there, but it should not be included as a present-day descriptor. CMD (talk) 06:24, 15 May 2023 (UTC)

text: @Paul 012 So can I write French indochina and the rest ? 27.3.1.116 (talk) 06:50, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The subgroups you added cannot be verified either. It seems your concern is mainly acknowledging the grouping of the former French Indochina countries. I think a simple description following the mention of French Indochina in the Terminology section would suffice. --Paul_012 (talk) 09:07, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  French Indochina and British Indochina