Talk:Mansions of Rastafari

message: While this article manages to describe some parts of 3 biggest mansions, each part really lacking. There is no real insight on any of the house description, no single format and obvious bias in the way how certain dogmas are described. Very poor article in overall. Rasjani 21:41, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Overall View

message: This article needs a good bit of attention. There are more than three mansions of Rastafari, not even counting the various off-shoots that are considered respectable. There is nothing here on the Ethiopian World Federation or the Rastas in the Ethiopian Orthodox Church, for instance, though we have to be careful not to include pseudo-mansions that exist only on the Internet, such as "Fulfilled House", which takes their name from a comment made by Judy Mowatt. More detail needs to be given about each of the mansions, their history and principles, in a respectful but NPOV way. Whig 07:02, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: I oppose this being merged with this article, as they are a Christian group and this article is exclusively about Rastafarian groups, SqueakBox 00:19, September 13, 2005 (UTC)
I being an ethiopian oppose the idea as well no true Ethiopian would dare call himself a rastafarian
This article should not be merged.  It is not an article but the report of an incident.  It has no importance to a broader NPOV discussion of the ideas it claims to espouse.
i also think that it should not be merged with Rastafari as Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church are not in any way part of the Rastafari movement.  They share reverence for Marcus Garvey, however they do not follow the teachings of, or claim inspiration from Haile Selassie I, the common thread of all Rastafari Mansions.
ZCC Was part of the Jamaican history its works are covered within few books that cover the history of rastafari movement but its usually categorized as totally seperate movement which has only loaned ideas. I oppose the integration. Rasjani 21:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church

message: This needs extreme cleanup and I suspect it contains plagarized text as it currently stands.
Nyahbinghi as its actually spelt really mean "death to the oppressors" regardless. This misconseption about "black victory" started when the oppressor was the white colonialist
Should not Nyabinghi come first?
--79.175.66.251 (talk) 23:48, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Niyabinghi section 

message: The link listed at the foot of the "Mansions" article is in fact to the page of  a tiny Christian sect, who do not claim  to be part of the Rastafarian faith, but simply share a name.N.B. the media concern regarding this  unrelated group.It's not a recent article, but this is from the UK Guardian in 2000...
http://www.guardian.co.uk/racism/Story/0,,339216,00.html#article_continue
--Scroobious 22:58, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "Twelve Tribes of Israel" Link 

message: Apologies, should have checked before posting above, but there is a detailed discussion of this Christian group, titled "Twelve Tribes" and accessable from the disambiguation.Still an incorrect link, mind.
Scroobious 23:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Twelve Tribes of Israel" link (cont.) 

message: There really need to be some sources and citations to support these claims.  Also, the sentence  "However, some consider Bobos deeply racist against white people, as well as misogynistic" is exceptionally weak sans citations.  Who are these "some?"
JasonPresyl 23:54, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bobo Ashanti, Racism, Misogyny, et. al. 

message: Is there any citation for this statement in the Nyabinghi section??
I have researched Jimmy Cliff's own site, and it states he has studies all rleigions of the world, but noting about being Muslim??
I havent found enough research on Prince Buster?--Chicagomusicfan 22:38, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cliff is indeed a Muslim, and I've heard the same regarding Buster, but like most of what's written on this page, it could use a citation.--Chimino (talk) 10:42, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jimmy Cliff & Prince Buster Muslim? 

message: Is "churchical" a real word? Isn't it "ecclesiastical" or something? 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * (talk) 14:17, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Churchical?

message: This kind of Wikipedia entry (with large, long blocks of uninterrupted text and few illustrations) is not very inviting to the reader. It looks more like a term paper than an encyclopedic article.
Some judicious editing would help (it is overly long) and breaking those large, chunky paragraphs into smaller ones (incorporating more variety of sections and heading) would provide some white space that helps the reader cope with the massive amount of information. Eyes need a break, too!
This piece would also be enhanced with more visuals--illustrations, maps, photographs--that would provide a break from this enormous amount of copy. 69.125.134.86 (talk) 01:56, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: * Reading the other complaints on this discussion page, as a first step, I now recovered the independently preexisting articles on Bobo Ashanti and the Twelve Tribes and linked them as being the main artcles on these two Mansions. I also corrected the quite chaotic Interwiki links that hadn't been automatically migrated to Wikidata.  Now, there's still a lot of work to do, and we need to take care that the text included here needs to be properly migrated to the two more specific articles - not simply copy and paste, please. I'll carry on with this in the next days. --PanchoS (talk) 13:31, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: * Now also restored the preexisting article Nyabinghi. All of these were obviously blanked out without any discussion and copy'n'pasted here by SqueakBox, to form the basis of this umbrella article. Wasn't correct back then, but is long ago. We should focus now on improving the individual articles of the three mansions without doing the same copy'n'paste mess. It's already been quite some work to recover all of that and to correct Wikilinks and Interwikis. --PanchoS (talk) 16:15, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite or at least reorganize 

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