Talk:Peter Kay

message: Fixed some grammatical errors that were in some titles and links. Singerisbored 18:19, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammatical errors fixed 

message: What's up with the whole 'Peter Gay' thing?
It's not even remotely funny.
is he?
:: What Peter Gay thing? He's married and has a child, no he's not gay. TR_Wolf
No evidence at all for it.  Rustygecko (talk) 11:51, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Gay

message: Spum - lots of new information here, which I hope I've managed to keep. I've just restyled and re-ordered some of it, and taken out the odd bit if POV language (I'm not a fan of turns of phrase like "skyrocketed" in encyclopedia articles). --Rayray 14:05, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent additions by [[user:Spum]]

message: 'Peter Kay's official website is no more than a shop, which, whilst enhancing his bank balance yet further, does little to bring him closer to his fans.' - I removed this section, seems like POV to me. I didn't really think it has a place on here. liam_fee 21:50 27/3/2006 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Liam fee (talk • contribs) 21:51, March 27, 2006  (UTC)
There was an interview with Dave Spikey in a UK Sunday Newspaper late last Summer (so, completely accurate then). He said that Kay
hates Daniel Kitson because Kitson thought the Ant and Dec characters in Phoenix Nights 2 were racist. Spikey also said that this is
why Kitson is slated on the DVD commentary, and why, alledgedly, Kitson's face has been digitally speckled out on some repeats of his
episodes. Spikey also says that he had had some disagreements with Kay and that was why he, and his fellow Phoenix Nights writer
Neil Fitzmaurice declined to take part in the DVD commentary.
:Given how roundly racists are mocked in the very first episode of Phoenix Nights, I very much doubt Peter Kay is that way inclined. 217.171.129.68 (talk) 17:27, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Remember that Phoenix Nights was NOT solely written by Kay.  Those first episode scenes could have been written by Dave Spikey or Neil Fitzmaurice. Mrstonky (talk) 18:57, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message: Having been through this article for copy editing, there is one aspect that isn't clear. When it says, '[They] settled on "In the Club"', this is the first reference to the title, and I'm presuming that it was an episode of That Peter Kay Thing that was developed into Phoenix Nights. Is this correct? If so, I will go back and change the paragraph to clarify this. Chris 42 14:33, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What was "In the Club"? 

message: Is Peter really a Manchester United fan? I seem to remember hearing from somewhere that he supported Manchester City. And yet if he doesn't support Bolton Wanderers why is he often seen on TV in the team shirt, as were several of the people in the Amarillo video? Jess Cully 17:47, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter's football allegiance 

message: "Manchester based comedians Dominic Woodward and Mike Wilkinson have both had material stolen by Peter Kay." Is therea source for this? It seems highly POV. I will delete untill a source is found. Help plz 23:00, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Embassy has changed my removal to "some have accused" this is much better in terms of NPOV, thanks for that, however I would still like a source, I'm not saying it is true, I'm not saying it isn't, but a source for the accusations would be nice! Thanks!
You'd need a strong source before you even mention such a sladerous allegation--Crestville 19:08, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Alleged theft 

message: Peter Kay is not Jerry St. Claire.
If a merge is going to take place then at the very least Jerry's page should be merged into the Pheonix Nights page. Peter Kay's site is to be related to him a person not a character. That's why there are seperate shows.
Tie this to both Pheonix Nights and the actor that played him.
:I agree--Crestville 16:04, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No merge 

message: Hi, When writing about future plans, you must remember that he is a comedian, and that future plans are subject to change. Even if he mentions it it might not come around to be done. -  Jrgnet  Talk 09:09, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future plans 

message: The criticism section appears to be entirely made up of original research and people's personal opinions. Lines such as "This impression was possibly instrumental to his being voted the most overrated comedian in a poll held on the comedy website Chortle" are conjecture, not fact. I've put the words "Peter Kay" and "Criticism" in a web browser. Three matching results came up. One was this page, one was Answers.com linking to this page and one was TV.com plagiarising this page. If there's no documented evidence anyone has said anything bad about this person, why is there a criticism section filled with complaints on a website that deals only with verifiable information? Wouldn't displaying such libellous information on a website constitute an illegal act? So would I perhaps have anyone's support for the entire section be deleted? ~~ Peteb16 00:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the section now, as per the rules specified in WP:BLP. ~~ Peteb16 21:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the criticism section seems to contain a large amount of very negative things about Peter... most of which appear to be unfounded with nothing to back them up. Hence I've added the tag. If these cannot be referenced within about a week I think we should delete all the ones currently labelled "citation needed". Anyone disagree? Paulfp 15:29, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As no-one has added references or objected to deletion, I have now deleted the Critisism section, for the reason that it contained lots of accusations and statements with nothing to back them up Paulfp 17:11, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good Man--Crestville 12:50, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Original research

message: As referred to on the main page, it's well-known that there was a dispute between Kay and Spikey & Fitzmaurice over how much credit he was taking after Phoenix Nights 2, but the article claims this was after a BAFTA win for the series. Phoenix Nights was only ever nominated for a BAFTA, but never won one.
I can't be 100% certain, but it's reasonable to assume the dispute happened either after the RTS Awards in March 2002, where Phoenix Nights 2 won best comedy, or possibly the British Comedy Awards 2002 in December 2002, where Phoenix Nights not only won the Peoples' Choice Award, but the best writer (singular) award for Peter Kay. The series 2 DVD (noticeably lacking contributions from Spikey and Fitzmaurice) came out afterwards, in October 2003, and neither of them appeared in Max & Paddy. Don't have any footage from either award event, so I'm not sure exactly what happened when the awards were given and what was (or wasn't) said, especially as Kay wasn't present in person at the Comedy Awards. 81.153.38.132 14:47, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phoenix Nights - Spikey/Fitzmaurice dispute 

message: I've added Peter Kay's audio CD The Best Of Peter Kay...So Far to the Albums section as an add on to his filmography (though the CD is a collection of audio from his stand up and Max & Paddy work). londonsista | Prod 17:32, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Audio CD 

message: The article does not mention anything about his family or his personal life; those things should be on a biographical page of one of Britain's most famous comedians/comedy actors. Where does he currently live? On the 'gay' section of this talk page, there is a comment stating that he is married and has a child. Can anyone verify that, and provide details and evidence? Werdnawerdna (talk) 20:41, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Family and personal life

message: Can any of these morons who insist on deleting a cited, NPOV section (ie, not just a couple of lines), care to explain their actions?  I appreciate that there are clearly some die-hard fans, but surely the point of Wiki is to present a warts-and-all description, not just big someone up up as the best thing since sliced bread.
I'm putting it back up, the remover said it's too "POV"...but it's all about reviews (both professionally and non-professionally) and criticism from his own coworkers.
User:WoD (talk) 21:17, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to put it back with reliable sources. If you don't they will be deleted again. And we don't use non-professional reviews as reliable sources. --Rodhullandemu 21:26, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

text: 1. They are a self-selecting sample; how can we be sure that they are representative and not the result of some smear campaign? 2. How wonderful to have such psychic powers, unfortunately, this is original research, and not permitted- we are an encyclopedia, not a tabloid. 3. Per This it is the responsibility of an editor seeking to include any material to justify it, and this includes the reliability of its source. 4. This is the reason we have the Reliable Sources Noticeboard, so that editors may seek advice from others as to point (3). 5. I recommend a reading of WP:RS. Next! --Rodhullandemu 22:12, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Sorry for that, but some people are just not getting it. If you think this isn't intended to be an encyclopedia, make it one by using reliable sources. A handful of fans whingeing on some forum is not a reliable source. If you think it is, please feel free to argue so at this noticeboard. Meanwhile, my experience tells me it isn't, and I am mightily sick of having this repeated "debate" with editors who think they can flout the intention of policy by slipping shoddy references under the wire. Is that clear? --Rodhullandemu 06:17, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

text: .. indeed there is. Policy on biographies is non-negotiable, and the answer is to protect this page against editing for as long as necessary, and block any editors who persist in going against that policy. Anyone who wishes to make edits will have to apply for them using the  template. Alternatively, editors can understand our policies, especially on reliable sources. Simple. --Rodhullandemu 19:22, 8 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Forget it. Cunt was an unsourced mess before I got to it; now it's a defensible and more encyclopedic article. Common sense may be fine, but encyclopedias require reliable sources to justify their assertions. The sources that are claimed to justify some of the allegations made about Peter Kay do not pass our most basic tests. If you have a problem with that, don't edit here, and I can arrange for that to happen, if you like. --Rodhullandemu 23:12, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism (again) 

message: I think we're all agreed on Farnworth, Bolton. There seems to be a problem as to whether we describe this as in Lancashire, as it was when Kay was born, or in Greater Manchester, as it now is. By analogy, I believe Nebuchadnezzar was born in Babylon and not in Iraq; however, we don't have Neb's birth certificate as a source. However, we do have, if we need it, Kay's birth certificate, which will describe Farnworth as being in Lancashire, because however prescient the local registrar may have been, only the facts will have been recorded. Accordingly, I suggest that we stick with the facts, and describe Kay's birthplace as Lancashire. Of course, I'm open to cogent arguments, unused as I am to seeing them here. --Rodhullandemu 21:17, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthplace 

message: Point 13... I have read this article and it does not say who criticised him. Does this mean if anyone puts things on the internet it can be included on wikipedia? This is meant to be a informed encyclopedia not a rumour mill.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Buckshee72 (talk • contribs) 18:53, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Point 13, who criticised him? 

message: I have now removed this material twice, , and will continue to do so if other people revert me. Customers reviews on amazon, hmv etc are not a reliable source. End of story. Feel free to consult any experienced wikipedian, or the reliable sources noticeboard, they will tell you the exact same thing. If the criticism is true then you will be able to find it in a source which is actually reliable such as reviews of the dvd's by actual professional reviewers--Jac16888 Talk 15:58, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: "repeatedly re-releasing the same material onto DVD"

message: Wiki entry says "His last stand-up comedy tour was officially inaugurated into the Guinness World Records as the most successful of all time, playing to over 1.2 million people." While an article about Mario Barth says "The solo shows sold 1.7 million tickets." http://www.worldrecordacademy.com/society/biggest_comedy_audience-world_record_set_by_Mario_Barth_80308.htm
Reasearch could be needed.
85.178.68.211 (talk) 19:36, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Record 

message: Under releases can a full list of CDs be added please? For example the 'Mum Wants a Bungalow - Official Tour CD' is a mix of live material and interview clips. John a s (talk) 09:21, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mum Wants a Bungalow - CD