Talk:Prince Edward, Duke of Edinburgh

message: Prince Edward is now listed as this, but does it not suggest that it is one title?  The Earldom of Forfar was bestowed upon His Royal Highness in 2019, ostensibly to give him a Scottish title, and is in no way linked to the English one. 92.30.70.49 (talk) 14:46, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: He has been referred to as the Earl of Wessex and Forfar in court circulars, press releases, and news reports. Falls under WP:COMMONNAME HolaQuetzalcoatl (talk) 20:11, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You beat me to it!  I can see that it is now standard practice to do this, in much the same way as it was to refer to, for example, George III's second son as Duke of York and Albany as though that were one title. 92.30.70.49 (talk) 09:07, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The Dukedom of York and Albany was a single title. See Duke of York and Albany. That is not the case with the Earldoms of Wessex and Forfar--each earldom is a separate title. Aoi (青い) (talk) 09:56, 19 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This must be what threw me.  I can now see that 'Duke of York' and 'Duke of Albany' differ from 'Duke of York and Albany'.  In the case of 'Earl of Wessex and Forfar', I figure that, even when used officially, the confusion over whether this seems to constitute one title is why the debate over Prince Edward's page title continues... 92.30.70.49 (talk) 01:20, 20 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I note that His Royal Highness continues to be referred to as simply 'Earl of Wessex' on The Royal Family's website.  Should this not serve as the definitive source?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.30.70.49 (talk) 16:27, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earl of Wessex and Forfar 

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The result of the move request was: move - There's a bit more support to move than to remain.  UtherSRG (talk) 19:38, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex →  – I think in the UK he's known simply as "prince Edward", and if we're going to start saying his titles, naming the English earldom of Wessex and not the Scottish earldom of Forfar sounds a bit disrespectul to Scotland. Alternatively, something that doesn't mention any of the 2 earldoms would also be fine. And this may become a moot point in the future if he gets given the dukedom of Edinburgh (but, of course, that would be WP:CRYSTAL). Dr. Vogel (talk) 18:15, 18 September 2022 (UTC)

text: *In most cases the person chooses one titled over another. That is not the case for Edward. And that was not the case for his nephew William. Upon Elizabeth II's death, he became Duke of Cornwall, which outranks Duke of Cambridge, but he chose to use the two titles together. The same happened to George V, who was for a while the Duke of Cornwall and York. So there is a precedent. Keivan.fTalk 06:20, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

text: *:Was Prince William ever actually referred to as the 'Duke of Cornwall and Cambridge' in a formal context? I'm aware of a few articles on the 8th which stated he would be referred to as that, but as he was made Prince of Wales the following day I'm not sure he was. A.D.Hope (talk) 10:38, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

text: *::I can attest that I have seen their official Twitter page stated 'Duke and Duchess of Cornwall and Cambridge' for about a day. HolaQuetzalcoatl (talk) 15:17, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

text: *::: Yes, he was officially referred to as the Duke of Cornwall and Cambridge: http://web.archive.org/web/20220909173433/https://www.royal.uk/royal-family Keivan.fTalk 23:56, 22 September 2022 (UTC)

text: *The royal website will most likely revert back to normal after September 26, when the mourning period for the royal household is over. That's what happened after Philip died. So, hopefully we will get an answer really soon. Keivan.fTalk 23:59, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 18 September 2022 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: moved. There is a consensus that the proposed title is the subject's WP:COMMONNAME among reliable sources. Some opposition to the move was leveled under WP:NAMECHANGES and MOS:IDENTITY; however, both NAMECHANGES and IDENTITY encourage following the terminology most commonly used by recent RS, and participants in the discussion showed that such sources continued to use "Earl of Wessex" without including the Forfar title.There were also some procedural arguments levied on both sides of the discussion, with opponents of the move arguing that not enough time had passed since the previous RM, and supporters of the move arguing that the previous RM had not actually led to a sufficient consensus to justify the original move. On the whole, though, the procedural arguments formed a fairly minor part of the discussion, and the WP:COMMONNAME argument proved most decisive in determining the consensus here. (non-admin closure)  ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 20:26, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Prince Edward, Earl of Wessex and Forfar →  – WP:COMMONNAME, per https://www.royal.uk/the-earl-of-wessex. Greatminton (talk) 00:23, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Would that be 'never called' Prince William, Duke of Cornwall, Rothesay & Cambridge? Cornwall & Rothesay are reserved for the British monarch's eldest son. GoodDay (talk) 03:49, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it would, but I excluded Cornwall as for a period of about 18 hours his article was called "Prince William, Duke of Cornwall and Cambridge". However, I will add it as during that window of time he was also DoR, but the article title didn't include it, even though for some reason the Scottish title is included with this article. Tim O'Doherty (talk) 15:53, 26 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 17 November 2022 

message: All Oxford and Cambridge graduates gain the right to the status of MA a certain number of years after matriculation. This isn't earnt. The question that follows is whether our subject has chosen to accept this status; this is a matter of fact, though it can be argued it's too obscure to be worth mentioning. Ender's Shadow Snr (talk) 12:22, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  MA from Cambridge 

message: None of Edward's present or future descendants can inherit the title "Duke Of Edinburgh". Does that signal a precedent? Is Charles III preventing a future time 100 years from now when a Duke Of Edinburgh could be a vastly distant relative to the Monarch? Does anyone know if ALL Dukedoms conferred on such descendants of Charles III who are at present without a title or not yet born will be lifetime non-hereditary titles? And when the current Duke of Kent (or Duke of Gloucester) dies, and the next holder of either of those titles is too distantly related to the Monarch to be "Prince", "HRH", or "Royal Duke", will they, NOT being members of the Royal Family, have a lot more political freedom to engage in political debate and to earn income as strategists for a political party than their fathers have now? In fact, since they already KNOW they will never be members of the Royal Family (unless they MARRY into it later), DO they have such political freedoms, prohibited to their fathers, ALREADY?2600:1700:6759:B000:7844:D0DC:F581:8251 (talk) 14:44, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Life Peerage

message: I've created an article for the documentary Edward on Edward. It still has a long way to go to be a good article, but to boost attention, can someone link it down on the films part of Prince Edward's page? Thanks. StrawWord298944 (talk) 19:24, 21 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: – Special:Diff/1151433646. DanCherek (talk) 01:20, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edward on Edward 

message: Please change "highly-selective" to "highly selective", per MOS:HYPHEN 73.93.5.246 (talk) 05:24, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: – Special:Diff/1151434068. DanCherek (talk) 01:23, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit request

message: Please link the new article Edward on Edward in the filmography, thanks. Uncle Spock (talk) 10:12, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: – Special:Diff/1151433646. DanCherek (talk) 01:20, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected edit request on 23 April 2023 

message: There is an RfC on Talk:Charles III#RfC: Inclusion of "Agnatic house" which may relate to this article. Feel free to contribute. Estar8806 (talk) 03:08, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC on Charles III 

message: A discussion is going on at the Commons concerning the copyright status of several coats of arms that are in use on pages related to British royalty. Please feel free to share your comments and input at :commons:Commons:Deletion requests/Coat of arms of Queen Camilla.svg. Thanks. Keivan.fTalk 18:36, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coats of arms and copyright