Talk:Dud Dudley

message: Further details might be available at Balliol itself, I dont know...
Balliol College Oxford: 
I have contributed this article without further study, perhaps the good Wikifairy could finish it? User Faedra, all the best.
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I've removed the following passage, of no obvious relevance:
:In 1722 it was ordered that "iron work at Deptford, Woolwich, and Chatham was to be wrought up under a Master Smith selected from persons fitly qualified." Thomas Dudley was given the first appointment of Master Smith at Chatham Dockyard, in 1723 and retained this position until 1746. 
This would only be relevant if there is some known relationship between Dudd Dudley and Thomas Dudley. -- Jmabel 17:15, Jun 18, 2004 (UTC)
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Copied from my talk page:
:I note with some concern that for a time now your observations about my item 'Dudd Dudley' remain on the Wikipedia:Cleanup page. I have checked my work and to the best of my knowledge it does not infringe any copyright. Further no one else has challenged this, so if you dont mind would you please remove your reference in that listing, or at least specify the cause of your concern....
:All the best Faedra 11:40, 18 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Alterations

message: I have looked at this in the Oxford Dictionary of National Biography which is a useful reference that I shall add. However, that article nowhere mentions the word "coke" but refers to smelting with pit-coal. It also notes that Dudley's purported process is not recorded in his book so we do not know exactly what he did. Further note that the article on Abraham Darby I claims that no-one had previously had much success with coke. Oh dear! More work! Cutler 15:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's one obvious source  Cutler 15:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This issue is dealt with in 'Dud Dudley's contribution'.  There is no indication what he did in the 1620s, except that he used pitcoal.  However, in the 1670s, he was coaling wood and pitcoal together.  This suggests the use of coke earlier.  I do not think he could have made pig iron with raw (pit)coal.  Its use only became possible after the ontroduction of hot blast in the 1830s.  Peterkingiron (talk) 21:37, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: move Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:56, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I am actually responsible for the ODNB article, and so am prejudiced.  I consider "Dud" the best version, but his name appears in a number of forms, including Dud, Dodo and Dudonius.  I think he was probably christened Dudley Tomlinson (but no one has traced his baptism), the forename reflecting Lord Dudley being his father.  As a young man, he was very much part of his father's family, but probably estranged from them following litigation in the 1630s.  This may have led him to adopt versions of his name more remote from that of his paternal family.  Dodo refers to a legendary builder of Dudley Castle, who almost certainly did not build it, but that name is (or was thought to be) the first element of the place-name Dudley.  I would be happy for the article to be moved to Dud Dudley (currently a redirect).  However, I have merely improved the article; I was not its creator, so I will leave others to make the move.  Peterkingiron (talk) 21:30, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Move requested as below, since Dud Dudley was extensively edited before the two articles were merged. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Please make comments longer than a sentence or so here.
Are Dodo and Dudonius found in English, or only in Latin? In Latin, they are evidence that the inscription classicized the name, not of estrangement. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:09, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Not sure.  Estrangement might be regarded as WP:OR.  You may be right about these forms being latinisations.  One of them certainly appears on his (or rather his 1st wife's) funerary monument in St Helens Church, Worcester.  Peterkingiron (talk) 23:02, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Dudd or Dud

message: *Support as nom.Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:25, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: :Please make comments longer than a sentence or so here.
Are Dodo and Dudonius found in English, or only in Latin? In Latin, they are evidence that the inscription classicized the name, not of estrangement. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 17:09, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure.  Estrangement might be regarded as WP:OR.  You may be right about these forms being latinisations.  One of them certainly appears on his (or rather his 1st wife's) funerary monument in St Helens Church, Worcester.  Peterkingiron (talk) 23:02, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Born 1600, but 20 years old in 1618. Can't both be right... CulturalSnow (talk) 12:38, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Age?