Template talk:Infobox country/Archive 1

message: It would be very helpful if the parties would settle the differences first, instead of engaging in the stupid revert war. --Gene s 10:44, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, I think their ought to be a infobox standard that need s to be setteled on, by those not infoled in the edit war. --Boothy443 11:22, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert war over infobox template 

message: be bold -- I made a massive change. I put underscores in variable names so they're more readable. I removed the political leadership for head of state and head of government, I added religions, added latest census population so you can compare with the estimated pop. and reworked the pop. and area categories, changed the order of items into, general, area, government, population, others. I updated all the affected countries using the template. —Cantus…☎ 22:10, Jan 17, 2005 (UTC)
: Please hold off adding this to any more articles. Some of your changes are inconsistent with Wikipedia:WikiProject Countries guidelines for the infobox. I also see some other problems which radically reduce the application of this across all countries. -- Netoholic @ 23:14, 2005 Jan 17 (UTC)
::Such as? What country does not have a head of state and head of government? —Cantus…☎ 23:28, Jan 17, 2005 (UTC)
::: Here are the problems I see:
:::* population density rank - List of countries by population density does not have position information, making this hard to use.
:::**It does now. —Cantus…☎ 03:19, Jan 20, 2005 (UTC)
:::* population census year, population census - Where is this data supposed to be pulled from? Sourcing this will be near-impossible.
:::**Near impossible? Try http://statbel.fgov.be/census/links_en.asp. —Cantus…☎ 00:49, Jan 20, 2005 (UTC)
:::* religions - Superfluous, contentious. Religion is not a quality of a nation, it is a consequence of the people living there.
:::* head of state, head of government - the previous, more open-ended method was better. Together with the title and name, this will almost always force the right-hand column to wrap lines. Putting the titles in the left column worked very well.
::: In the future, it is critical that major changes be proposed before changing the template, since it affects so many articles. Make the change on Template:Infobox Country test and try it on an article or two. -- Netoholic @ 23:44, 2005 Jan 17 (UTC)
:::The head of state/government seperation causes issues for countries like New Zealand, Australia, Canada which now don't have Governor-Generals (or the equivalent) listed in the infobox. Evil Monkey → Talk  00:44, Jan 18, 2005 (UTC)
I object to adding head of state and head of government entries for reasons stated at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Archive4#Unilateral additions. Please read the lengthy discussion there so I wont need to repeat myself and respond here if necessary. I fail to see a reason for changing the order. Can you explain why? --Jiang 06:41, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Massive change

message: How are defunct countries handled in this infobox? Should a parallel infobox be created? This is in particular reference to Confederate States of America, but there are obviously numerous former nations (Yugoslavia, etc.). -Willmcw 23:32, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Defunct countries 

message: Should the font for "National Motto" and "National Anthem" be sized  (this size)?
Yes
#--Cyberjunkie 07:48, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Vote

message: Do people think that this should be a field on the template?--nixie 00:51, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Generally speaking, results of specific international studies shouldn't be included here. It is fine to include them at the end of the article under International rankings. —Cantus…☎ 07:04, May 6, 2005 (UTC)
That's what I was trying to avoid :) --nixie 07:06, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Human Development Index