Talk:St Just in Penwith/Archive 1

message: The article indicates a place known as "Plain an gwarry" the image "Plein an gwarry", any preferences? I'm for "Plain" as we call it locally. Serpren (talk) 06:24, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably just a spelling mistake - I've only ever seen "plain". DuncanHill (talk) 06:28, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Plain or plein?

message: I have moved the following from the main page, where it was added by an anon IP editor:
Most of the following information was given to me by my Grandmother Mrs Harriet Georgina Spray whose maiden name was Millett. Grandmother Spray "sprang" from the Bosavern Millets of St. Just in Penwith. She was born in 1875 and lived with her parents and 16 brothers and sisters at "Venayre" Lelant. 
It is several years since I visited St.Just in Penwith Chuch so my memory is not so sharp but I remember from compiling the family history (with help from my Grandmother)that in St. Just Church Lady Chapel; beneath the floor (which is now carpeted), lie several members of the Millett Family. 
On the wall of the Lady Chapel there are also several names of the Millet family who died in the same year; maybe of some disease?. 
The Milletts originally came from France in the 1600's. The Millets of Bosavern, St. Just,were quite a large large family and became renowned in St Just and Cornwall - they made their fortunes in mining and farming. They also did a bit of smuggling - Brandy maybe?
- One story told to me by my Grandmother was that of one of the female Millets who had a Revenue Officer as a fiance, (which could have been quite awkward if the family was involved in smuggling) - One night during a confrontation between the Revenue Officers and smugglers on Sennen beach the fiance was shot dead.  - Convenient or what? It was told to me that sadly the female Millet died soon after this incident, of a broken heart.
One of the Millet family became Vicar of St. Just Church.
Im not sure when but when lime and plaster were being taken of the walls of St. Just Church at sometime, ancient wall paintings were discovered - one being of St. George killing the Dragon?
Moved by DuncanHill (talk) 11:33, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family memories (moved from main page)  

message: Since the District Council of Penwith was abolished 1st April 2009, does this article need moving to a new title - such as "St Just in West Cornwall"? I am minded to keep it as it is, since it is currently the usual term used and also the old District was based around the original Hundred of Penwith so might be considered as historically accurate anyway. I am posting this here, in the hope of a few replies, so that if it does stay like it is then some young whippersnapper cannot come along and move it to some new title with the excuse that there was no discussion about the "wrong" name. LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:28, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The hundred of Penwith existed many centuries before the District was established in 1974; changing it also complicates the distinction from St Just in Roseland.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 14:16, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  St Just in "Penwith" 

message: Per this comment, "According to Ordnance Survey St Just at 5deg 40 West is not the most westerly town in the UK.  This honour goes to Mallaig in Scotland which is situate at 5 deg. 49 West." which was added as an edit to the article page, and a quick look at the geo numbers on both articles, I have changed the text. I note that St Just was said to be the most westward in mainland Britain, and have been unable to ascertain whether Mallaig is on the mainland - but it appears to be. Anyone more familiar with this stuff is welcome to confirm or revert the article. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:47, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: From looking at a map, I'd say that Mallaig was on the mainland, so I'd stick with your edit. If you're still unsure you might want to ask this on the Mallaig article talk page - as also it might be useful to include this fact, with regards to Mallaig, on its page. Zangar (talk) 14:52, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Mallaig certainly is on the mainland.  These things can be hard to define in absolute terms.  Acharacle is a post town and its centre is perhaps marginally further west still.  Kilchoan lies much further west, and is the main settlement for many miles around, but probably couldn't be described as a town.  I have to say it seems to me slightly absurd to class reading a map as original research, but it's hard to see how it should be cited.  We have a similar problem with editors claiming that Fair Isle is closer to Orkney than Mainland Shetland — if you read the map and do your Pythagoras it clearly isn't, but it's difficult to provide a reference for this.  --Deskford (talk) 22:38, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we can go by "verifiable" to say that St. Just is most westerly on mainland England & Wales, even if not sourced, since all of the above are in Scotland and I am certain that there are references for St Just being "most westerly" (but of what?). The Scottish towns mentioned may need to find sources if they are to be described as "most westerly". LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:22, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd assume that this source is good for St Just, as it is produced by the BBC, even though not a mainstream news article it's not a blog. And there's always this one for Mallaig, although it notes it's the most westerly port and not town. Zangar (talk) 12:50, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I note that the penultimate paragraph of the Mallaig ref refers to the place in a contemporary phrase as being a village. I suppose a bit of research should find out whether the place has a town council or is otherwise deemed a town, but that is perhaps something for the Mallaig article editors to attend to. I shall copy this comment to that talkpage. LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:01, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

text: A further reference on the Mallaig article page refers to the place as a village. I shall amend the St Just article to note most westerly mainland town. LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:09, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most westward town? 

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