Talk:Pediment

message: Ok! The article needs help. --Mario todte 16:40, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Please improve

message: (see: Pere Lachaise Cemetery ) and architectural revivals because neither one leads, as far as I can see, to any place that sheds any light on pediments.  The architectural revivals idea is a good one (opinion) - only the links goes someplace that does not, as far as I can see, deal with architectural revivals.  So if you are attached to these links speak real soon, or fore ever hold your peace [piece?]. Carptrash 02:31, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I am about to remove a couple of links 

message: It came from the Pediments of the United States section.  These are all pediments from buildings that are already in wikipedia, so they have once already passed the noteworthy test.  Examples of what the article is about has to be a good thing, doesn't it?  Why just the United States?  Well anyone can add others - it could become Pediments of the world, but I'd like to see someone familiar with the peds of France or the UK or Argentina to add those.  I know American architecture, so that is what I post. Carptrash (talk) 15:10, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it would be a mistake to lump the pediments of Northern Ireland in with those of Great Britain, thus separating them from those of the rest of Ireland. Perhaps it would be better to deal with the separate countries of the Uk individually.Leutha (talk) 08:44, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: I just moved this here

message: I have added a  template on the section "Significant pediments in the United States". Having a list of significant pediments is a good idea, but I don't see why the list should be limited to one country only. 93.107.8.139 (talk) 09:28, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Globalize

message: from a section called something like Pediments in the United States, so it was not surprising that it deals primarily with American buildings.  Also this issue has already been addressed on the Talk Page, in 2009.  If someone wants to do the work (instead of suggesting that someone else do it) and internationalize the list, I say, "Go for it." Einar aka Carptrash (talk) 14:38, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've deleted the whole "significant pediments in the United States" content. There is no such thing as a "significant pediment" - pediments are just architectural elements within a larger architectural composition; pediments cannot have a fame-related status like tallest spire or widest bridge span. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 21:37, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: However that can be "Notable pediments", which I am adding back. Carptrash (talk) 22:07, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Really. Don't you realize how silly this content is. Did that famous so-and-so hang themselves from that pediment, and so that is why it is notable? And is that other pediment so utterly huge that it is notable? And is that third one more broken than any other broken pediment in America so that is why it is notable? The buildings that contain these pediments may be notable, the whole architectural ensemble in other words, but that does not make their pediments any more significant that any other pediment, anymore than their other elements, such as roofs or doors or windows are more significant than any other roofs, doors or windows. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 02:27, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Really?  Not notable?  Then why is there a whole book written about one of them (Somma, Thomas P., The Apotheosis of Democracy 1908-1916: The Pediment for the House Wing of the United States Capitol, University of Delaware Press, Associated University Presses Inc., Cranbury, NJ, 1995) while many chapters of other books can be found about others.  Gee, some of tham only rate a couple of pages.  But I have learned over the years that when an editor shows up with ownership issues about an article, removes large chunks of it without the courtesy of a discussion on the talk page, that it is better for me to just go away. Cheerio, enjoy the page. Carptrash (talk) 19:11, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Bad faith statements don't get you anywhere, and the ownership issue seem to be from you since you have the attachment to this content. The proper place for content dealing with sculptural features on an important building will be in the article on that building or (as in the one you mentioned) in a stand-alone article if there is sufficient material. This article is about explaining and illustrating pedements as architectural elements; a selective list of pediments on notable buildings or pediments containing notable sculpture, all from just one country, is, I think, out of place. Having it just as a "see also" link (which another editor has now added) is a far better way of using this content. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 16:01, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  I just removed this template 

message: Okay, I was wondering about one of the features at the doorways of Grand Central Terminal, and somebody suggested it might be a pediment. ---------User:DanTD (talk)  18:50, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it is a tympanum. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 16:43, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  ditto for tympanum. Carptrash (talk) 18:08, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  But you said tympanum and pediment are the same??? This Greco-Roman white wash fairy tail has to be uncovered soon... Pseudoscience has been ouroboros for too long now. I'm full up on eating myself... We need to look for reasons not answers. What reason would there be for pediments to exist in every country and just about very town if not every capital city on every historical building and every ancient ruin? If you duck.com the ruins of Jordan you will see a basic relief sculpture that was most likely the template used for the rest of the Pediments across all countries on the Terra Firma. The design is NO DIFFERENT to any other "Greco-Roman" or as I like to say Antediluvian architecture and were all built to withstand the test of time. That may be a key of reason also for the existence of Pediments. Strength in structure. They may serve as an earthquake safe zone just as standing in the door way frame is for modern architecture these days. Speaking of which no one has been able to replicate this architecture for the past 2-3 centuries and anyone that says they built it in the late 1700s or 1800's is just pulling your leg. This architecture is the TRUE definition of the very word (Worth looking up) and every little bit of detail in the design was done for a REASON. Aesthetics were a second thought after the structure was able to power itself (Atmospheric energy) Heat or cool itself (Direct Energy) and be sufficient in design when it came to aqueducts and fresh drinking water supply. Keeping in mind being flood fire and earthquake proof just went without saying, as it was thought of from the start and left uncompromised. Why would you build a shelter that could do only that and not be able to shelter you from the storm when it really matters? I've been told by modern day architects that the reason buildings like that don't get built anymore is because of an ancient concrete recipe that cannot be replicated to this day. And also that the cost involved these days would be too great and that it would not be practical for anyone to build structures like these again; But I say, what's more practical than a beautifully crafted structure that has all its appliances inbuilt while being built like a tank? Need I say more??? Oh yeah right, Pediments... So obtuse isosceles triangle. They are about 90deg to 120deg maybe more but generally you will have the numerological numbers 3 and 9. Equilateral Triangle always 60deg each side numerology 666. And your "Tympanium" is always a perfect 180degs (9). The Antediluvians knew about the numbers 3 6 and 9... So in accordance to satanic mathematics and sacred geometry, the buildings or pediments like we are originally talking about were also completely decked out in Phoenician fashionista pirate sun worship allegory as well as (and I can't believe I haven't said this already) BEING BUILT FOR GIANTS!!! Those Pediments be over some pretty big windows doors and arch ways... I'm just Super Sayin is all... Fix up history please. Thank you. I Love you. X  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.2.95.194 (talk) 17:29, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pediment or not? 

message: Greeks and Romans Broke their Pediments albertis-window.com Ancient Greeks and Romans Broke their Pediments, Monday, November 14th, 2011. Johnbod (talk) 00:32, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Source