Talk:Galley

message: I have put back a paragragh on the reduction in complexity from the most sophisticated galleys associated with the Hellenistic period. Something ought to be said about this, even if someone does not like what I say  Iglonghurst 09:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I really don't want to say anything about things I know nothing about, but the "polyremes" section seems a bit ridiculous to me. The part about a 40-reme having space for 2000 marines in 100s BC seems unlikely, and the section is missing a citation. Should that part be taken out?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sswan (talk • contribs) 00:06, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Skeptical of 40-reme 

message: Why is Captain Kidd's ship treated as a galley?  Is it just because it had oars?  Other than that its design looks fairly typical for a circa 1700 oceangoing ship - it has a good broadside and what look to be reasonably high sides.  I imagine it had no permanent oarsmen and was under sail power almost all the time.  Boris B (talk) 20:47, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adventure Galley 

message: This section seems to have much original research, but also shows lack of understanding of how ships work. For example, the statement about how a bow wave constitutes all the drag on a boat is obviously incorrect (I removed it.) That a formal ram "changed the nature of naval warfare" is OR. Of course boats used to ram one another before then...e.g., freighters with no special reinforcement in the bow tried to sink German submarines in WWII by ramming on a regular basis. It doesn't matter whether a ship is "slow" or not -- "staving in its sides" ruins fast boats, too. "Galleys were hauled out of water whenever possible"? What does that mean? They beached them during the night? This isn't quibbling: there's a fair chance they left the boats in the water except when they weren't going to be used for a long time...otherwise the wood might dry out, and leaks would develop.
Finally, and this is more subtle, there's no such thing as a "peak of development" for ships. They're adapted for one purpose or another, built from poor or excellent material depending on economics, and especially, change to match expected need. That boats are technically advanced doesn't mean they were "appropriate technology". They might have been White Elephants. (For example, like the dozens of fighter planes built by the US, Russia and NATO built at colossal expense to dogfight one another, but when events overtook them, they became less useful than expected.)
Piano non troppo (talk) 21:39, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Penteconters original research

message: There is a long description about the galley in this Wikipedia article and the "design and construction" part of the article is very thorough. The article gives readers a history of the galley and why and how it was used. Though the article does say there are some unknowns about how the galley was made and actually constructed. Also, this portion of the article fails to lack citations. There are only a few citations listed after some sentences and that makes a reader like me skeptical about where the author got this information. The sources that are listed do seem credible and actual good primary and secondary sources. The sources are not just some random website. There are some pictures of early galleys but there are not many showing the actual construction of a galley. Some of the illustrations and picture are interesting and make for the reader to get a better understanding of how the galley looked. The article does cover the subject thoroughly and there does not seem to be are portions of the article that have been marred by frivolous or spurious contributions. This entry, unlike a conventional encyclopedia, could be accessed and updated by just about anyone, making Wikipedia seem always not 100% accurate.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by HIST406-10osloan (talk • contribs) 20:29, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critique 

message: I don't see the merit of the content under the heading of "Southeast Asia". I've checked Reid (2012), and it's quite clear that these aren't Mediterranean-type galleys. Reid quite specifically refers to "galley-type" vessels and in captions puts "galley" in quotes. That Europeans referred to oared ships with similar function as the galleys they were familiar with does not actually mean that they are galleys.
If it's cleaned up or shortened, I believe some of the content is very relevant under "Definition and terminology". There's a pretty extensive discussion there on how even Europeans used "galley" to refer to all forms of rowed vessels.
Peter Isotalo 21:30, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Southeast Asia 

message: Does this article need an American English tag on itthat is the version it is written in. (I am presuming that is what is intended.) ThoughtIdRetired (talk) 19:49, 20 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it. Peter Isotalo 08:27, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  English version