Talk:Rainbow (Greece)

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::This article is the Rainbow Party as a political party in Greece. For the sexual act, see Rainbow party (sexuality). 
Following the link indicates that there's some doubt that the "act" referred to is anything but imaginary. I don't think we need disambiguation here. If someone saw this on Oprah, they can search for it using Oprah as a keyword. Anyway, it should all probably be in Rainbow Party (book) if anyone wants to bother to write that. Uncle Ed 22:23, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Oprah Winfrey reference

message: Shouldn't this article be named  Rainbow (political party)? The name of the party at least at its logo shown in the page is "Ουράνιο Τόξο" which means plain "Rainbow". And without known any Makedonski I can quess that "Виножито" means "Rainbow" plain. I think that for the article to be named "Rainbow Party" its name should have been something like "Κόμμα Ουράνιο Τόξο" or "Виножито <Makedonski word for party here>". I propose this be moved. Thoughts? --Michalis Famelis 22:03, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds sensible. Go for it!--Damac 07:55, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. I also fixed a double redirect and fixed links to it at (Main) namespace articles. --Michalis Famelis 12:05, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal for a move 

message: Why do people keep adding an interwiki to a non-existent article: :mk:Виножито? --Telex 00:37, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interwiki 

message: I could swear that when I first read this article months ago, among the reasons for nationwide electoral results, was smthng like "support for gay rights". That's why I added the See also LGBT. I can't find that version now, and don't know when exactly was that, but if anyone knows, his help will be of value. •NikoSilver• 18:33, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Only the other day did I encounter a Greek voter who actually believed that the party was all about LGBT because of its name and flag. There are surely more voters out there who believe this, which may explain why the party polled most of its votes outside of the area it's based in.--Damac 05:44, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I browsed all versions in history and didn't find the version I was talking about. :-( I also did a quick search in google, but haven't come up with anything that cites it as a possible reason. I am sure I read that before though. Is it possible it could be in any related article? Like Macedonian Slavs or Florina? I am sure it is reasonable, but WP:OR is not allowed... •NikoSilver• 08:50, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  LGBT 

message: Would User:Euthymios please outline here why he thinks it necessary to categorise this organisation as a "nationalist organization". Is he not in the one bit concerned that the category is barely populated, pointing to its utter uselessness in understanding what these organsations are all about? What makes Rainbow nationalist?
I don't find the category in any way helpful in this regard.--Damac 17:01, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I'll add :Category:Nationalist parties. Where else do ethnic parties such as these belong?--Euthymios 16:16, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have already added the Popular Orthodox Rally into the category of greek nationalist parties. i do not know why should we make any exception for Rainbow or Bulgarian Human Rights in Macedonia parties. IMHO, they are even more nationalistic than "LAOS", claiming harrashment, border change, historic revisionism and using terms unapplicable to them. Hectorian 16:24, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, feel free to add the PKK as well. I hate ethnic parties (including Sinn Fein and Plaid Cymru in the UK). Always whining...--Euthymios 16:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Category:Nationalist organisations?

message: I see the new interwiki added... Very NPOV! Congratulations! It includes the neutral phrase: "Водач на партијата е Павле Воскопулос, според кого во Егејска Македонија живеат околу 400 000 Македонци." Mk:wiki is becoming the most nationalistic wiki I've ever visited. NikoSilver 16:30, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, it's pretty NPOV. I'm only worried that you don't actually understand what the phrase means... Here's the English translation from Macedonian: "Leader of the party is Pavle Vaskopulos; according to him, there are about 400,000 Macedonians living in Aegean Macedonia." Notice the "ACCORDING TO HIM" part? Don't be so sarcastic. It IS NPOV. iNkubusse? 11:22, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nice... 

message: The article says that "ELAS refugees who felt only Greek were allowed Greek citizenship while ethnic Macedonians were not". This is false. Any and all of the 8000 armed ELAS members who crossed the border had their citizenship permanantly revoked, regardless of any declarations they could have made. Furthermore, it was not after the civil war that the refugees to communist bloc states were granted re-entry but after PASOK was elected in the 1980s. This article needs to be fixed up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 220.239.96.72 (talk) 05:17, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any and all ELAS fighters are not allowed Greek citizenship 

message: Read the article. Bulgarian Human Rights in Macedonia is the name of another party in Greece. Mr. Neutron 19:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see. But then maybe you should be so kind to add teh links to the turkish and other ethnic parties in Greece that fight for their rights? I am not sure how the ethnic Bulgarian party alone is relevant to this article Capricornis 19:43, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fine by me. Find the relevant articles and link them. Mr. Neutron 22:17, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: To Capricornis

message: As this article relates to the internal affairs of Greece, the appropriate disambiguating nomenclature should be employed, per WP:MOSMAC. ·ΚέκρωΨ· (talk) 12:28, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internal 

message: The article omits the electoral results of 1996 (Parliament) when Rainbow participated in alliance with OAKKE, receiving a total of 3485 votes. 
(Getas75 (talk) 20:30, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Electoral Results 

message: Please, provide reasons as for why the tag should be there or it'll be removed. And, please, try to think of some valid reasons not just throw random stuff at me. Thank you. --Laveol T 07:33, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It is dubious because this "party" never progressed more then an unfinished website. Had it not been for the website it would not have even been a "party. Dubious, becuase the party even states on its website it has only ever had a membership of FIVE people, you cannot have a political party with only FIVE members. Apart from the fact that since then both of the named persons have reconciled with Vinožito, it is very dubious. PMK1 (talk) 22:50, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, but that's what it says. If you think that it's not notable, say so. I suspected you might be just throwing random arguments and you do so. --Laveol T 13:14, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I still think that it is dubious, the whole paragraph is also non-beneficial for the article. Even if it sourced. What is your opinion before i delete it? PMK1 (talk) 14:04, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What's the problem with the paragraph? You seriously think all criticism to the party is non-notable? Only one POV should prevail, huh?! I've said it tons of times - not liking something is no reason for deletion. --Laveol T 14:21, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I trimmed it a little, cause I ,too, don't think the party has received "a lot of criticism" for the split. I've also removed the "dubious" tag since there's nothing dubious in the fact that they claim to be representing a Bulgarian minority. Whether they actually do is another question. --Laveol T 14:27, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That is at least one step better, the previous wording was awkward and they didnt really get criticism at all. Ever since BHRM became a one man show. I wont be adding another dubious tag. Do gledanje. PMK1 (talk) 22:43, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Do/vizhdane. --Laveol T 10:42, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Lol PMK1 (talk) 12:27, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ummm? If you mean the "dovizhdane" I just wrote "do gledanje" in another way. I didn't mean it as an offense or something :) --Laveol T 20:30, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasons for the Dubious tag 

message: The info about the Bulgarian customs was referenced with a crapy article on Mina entitled "Bulgaria continues to fear Macedonian minority ". Sorry, I have to say this, but even by Balkan standards the article is too low measured in journalistic values. I cannot call it even nationalistic cause even they try to get something big starting from at least one small piece of truth. To be more precise: 1. Bulgaria does not fear that OMO-Ilinden could take any seats cause in order to do so they need some 150,000 votes at least when they cannot get 2000 signatures. 2. The 1926 census in Bulgaria did not show such fantasy data (I'll provide you with a source if needed). 3. An article having the words "Anti Macedonian activities" repeating so much clearly has some point to make. Please, this is an encyclopedia - we don't need journalistic propaganda essays and especially of such low quality. I've put a POV tag cause I'm not that competent on the incident that occurred during the presentation of the vocabulary. Reading it, though, strikes me as too heavily POVed. We were the good guys, they came and beat us that very much and the police did not do anything. Really, is that the best you can do? --Laveol T 18:16, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent additions 

message: I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
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thread_title:  removing POV tag with no active discussion per [[Template:POV]] 

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