Talk:Joke

message: ... with detailed examples of lots of different types of humour, but clearly the Wikinazis have been at it culling away all the best bits. Does anyone know of a backup site of the article, or a diff from when it was more detailed? Saint91 (talk) 13:09, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Could this be it? http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Joke&diff=269513299&oldid=267158035 You get these from http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Joke&action=history Njaohnt (talk) 00:11, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article used to be brilliant... 

message: I fixed the table of contents. Is it good to take off "This article's tone or style may not reflect the encyclopedic tone used on Wikipedia. See Wikipedia's guide to writing better articles for suggestions. (October 2011)"? Njaohnt (talk) 00:18, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixed it 

message: I rewrote the Joke article, it is a topic that I have worked on as a Folklorist. The first and main problem is that the original article had not correctly defined what a joke is; it does not include everything funny. That was done in the lede. I then, according to current research in linguistics, psychology, folkloristics, ethnography, etc., explained what a joke is. If there are problems in the style, I will be happy to work with editors to correct these. My goal is for accurate information, cleanly described. I think that my rewrite of the Joke article does this. Smithriedel (talk) 23:47, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I refer you to my short list above. If these are addressed I'm fine with going with the new version. Good work. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 12:25, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  rewrite of joke page needs evaluation, review 

message: The frame analysis article link doesn't seem appropriate. — MaxEnt 00:12, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frame analysis 

message: There should be a section about jokes on the internet, and how many are purely an internet phenomenon. Here's a good source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FCC8:C2C4:5B00:B51A:4510:37C2:F62B (talk) 00:13, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion 

message: The source of the 1900 BC Sumerian and 1600 BC Egyptian jokes is very shaky. Nearly all of the claims made in that paragraph are not even tangentially mentioned in the original source, and even if it was the article is not credible whatsoever. It's a 2008 Reuters article that references a now-deleted article written for online comedy channel DaveTV. The article was written by Paul McDonald, a professor of creative writing at the University of Wolverhampton with minimal research experience and no experience in archaeology or history. There is simply no credible evidence to say that the Sumerian is the "oldest identified joke" without at least a preamble of "It is commonly believed" or "It is suggested by Dr Paul McDonald." Furthermore, I tried and failed to find any dating of the Sumerian proverb in particular.
This being said I've identified sources for the jokes from their original sources or academic compilations.
Sumerian Proverb:
A compilation of sumerian proverbs that includes the one referenced in the article
Egyptian aside:
From the third story of the Westcar Papyrus
Conkaeso (talk) 01:32, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Pre-classical jokes" come from a non-credible ghost study 

message: Bangla Jokes refer to the jokes told by the Bengali or Bangla speaking people living in Bangladesh, India (West Bengal, Tripura, and Asam provinces), and even in UK, USA, and the Middle East. 
The Bengalis love to tell and listen to jokes whenever they are in light mood. It is their age old tradition. Jesters like Gopal Bhar, Mullah Nasiruddin Hozza, and Birbal are very popular among the Bengalis. 
There are mainly two types of Bangla Jokes: Koutuk (takes several minutes to tell) and Chutki (quick joke).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahelala (talk • contribs) 20:33, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That link does not confirm to our reliable source or external links guideline and has no place in the article. If you can find a reliable source discussing Bangla joke, then content about it could probably be included in the article, but the blog does not belong. Apparition11 Complaints/Mistakes 02:02, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bangla Jokes 

message: * παρτιζάνοι ➡ παρτουζάνοι  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.69.152.47 (talk) 23:50, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek [[pun]]s 

message: a joke sometimes doesn't end in a punchline, for example, an image of corn & someone says "if the sun was hotter, it would be popcorn" or there are jokes that most people don't get, such as "I did a roof eating today"
(this is not meant to be info for the article, as it is a comment)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MonkeyBoy32904 (talk • contribs) 21:45, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  joke 

message: Multiple Jokes are defined in which there are no words, as an example a silent gag is often considered a Joke however has no words. Other types of non-verbal Jokes also exist. I think the best solution is to hit the books and look for scholarly definition, the Dictionary agrees with the current interpretation whilst other scholarly citations state a Joke does not need to be in spoken form. Thoughts? Des Vallee (talk) 05:21, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The OED says that a joke is something that you say or do to make someone laugh.  Denisarona (talk) 10:59, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Indeed many dictionary definitions define Jokes as purely verbal or text and I think that for the definition it is completely correct. I do however believe the best solution would be would to add a "Definition" section in which we put different view on the definition the section could even be split into a sub article, so I agree. If we take other examples like the era of silent films, in which the main form of acting was often physical, and lacked audio and text are usually considered jokes. Indeed they have all the formatting of the jokes, a setup, a buildup, a negation in which the audience expected result is negated, and an ultimate punchline, using all physical elements. Other types of humor including slap stick often lack any verbal communication. However the definition is defined by words, so I think the section reads perfectly fine and I agree with you. There is debate as to the definition and as outlined multiple theories exist on the exact definition so the best solution would be to add a "Definition" detailing different perspectives on Jokes. Des Vallee (talk) 20:42, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does a Joke need to be defined by words? 

message: Its not funny 2604:2D80:B18F:C800:F115:9194:694C:482D (talk) 19:05, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 19:14, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 27 January 2021 

message: The first paragraph repeats itself word for word unnecessarily, I'd fix it myself but it's semi-protected
"It takes the form of a story, usually with dialogue, and ends in a punch line. It is in the punch line that the audience becomes aware that the story contains a second, conflicting meaning. This can be done using a pun or other word play such as irony or sarcasm, a logical incompatibility, nonsense, or other means. Linguist Robert Hetzron offers the definition.[1] It takes the form of a story, usually with dialogue, and ends in a punch line. It is in the punch line that the audience becomes aware that the story contains a second, conflicting meaning. This can be done using a pun or other word play such as irony or sarcasm, a logical incompatibility, nonsense, or other means. Linguist Robert Hetzron offers the definition: "  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.31.39.157 (talk) 18:48, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: The article needs an edit but is semi-protected

message: At least one source claims it originated as a promotional campaign for someone's joke book in the mid 1990s. Should the day be in the article? TooManyFingers (talk) 14:14, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  International joke day? 

message: In the "Classification systems" section, we have this:
But is the stock "numbskull character" really obsolete? The word itself is out of fashion, but it seems to me that the concept is still in use. Regardless of fashion and regardless of moral issues, people find ways to continue to ridicule each other. TooManyFingers (talk) 14:43, 8 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "numbskull" 

message: Pound's very short poem In A Station of the Metro seems to me to match all of the structures and functions described in the "Telling Jokes / Punchline" section of this article, including the most important one - the listener or reader has to retrospectively reinterpret the "setup" after they hear the "punchline". Pound even stuck (extremely strictly) to the direction that the narrative must be kept succinct. It seems to me that the only difference is that this poem isn't funny but a good joke is funny. I think carefully comparing this "pseudo-joke" (a correctly constructed and fully functional joke whose effect is analogous to humour but isn't humour) with real jokes might lead to a clearer understanding of what "funny" actually is. TooManyFingers (talk) 17:51, 10 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punchlines vs. Ezra Pound 

message: 41.115.104.32 (talk) 20:59, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Khrincan (talk) 22:30, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  I would like to register 

message: On the electronic section, the letter a in " a :-)" links to the smileys article. I think only the smiley should. 96.8.248.148 (talk) 10:58, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor typo 

message: The redirect Funny jokes has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  QuietCicada - Talk 21:22, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
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