Talk:Errol Flynn

message: Did she survive Flynn's death or die at 45 in Jamaica? Mayumashu 09:04, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mother's death

message: "Before his death Flynn renounced Castro and his revolution"
Is there a source for this?
This contradicts everything about Flynn and Castro that I have ever heard. Flynn and Castro were drinking buddies. Flynn, in his autobiography, written immediately before his death, gives a very positive view of Castro. Also, at the time of Flynn's death, Castro had not yet consolidated power as a dictator and still remained within the good graces of the United States. Quite a few of the Miami anti-Castro types were still supporting the revolution at the time, including the young Jorge Mas Canosa himself. I suspect this line is a bit of vandalism and I will delete it. If someone wants to find a source for it and restore it, they are free to.
Flynn is listed as a Republican on some sites which must be untrue since his politics were left-wing. I suspect some conservative vandal was trying to make out Flynn shared their beliefs.
Flynn may have supported a Republican candidate at some point ; there are people listed as Republicans on some sites who merely supported a single GOP candidate. During Flynn's lifetime, the parties were less ideological than today.
:Now there is "However, on a return trip where he allegedly witnessed executions and was roughed up by the secret police, he changed his mind about Castro." Is there a source for this? KillerChihuahua?!? 08:55, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Castro

message: SFAIK, the only source for the bisexual claim is The Untold Story, a book of questionable purview which has been widely debunked, and an claim by Truman Capote, well known for claiming he slept with all kinds of people he could not have and did not in fact sleep with. Is there a better source for this? KillerChihuahua?!? 14:04, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Pfffttttt.  Nonsense.  And your personal experience is not a qualified "Reliable Source" for Wikipedia.HammerFilmFan (talk) 09:23, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

text: Third-hand hearsay hardly qualifies as WP:RS. There is a properly-sourced reference to his alleged bisexuality in the "posthumous controversy" section, however. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 16:14, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Bisexual?

message: I first read this "fact":
A group organized to support Flynn, named the American Boys Club for the Defense of Errol Flynn (ABCDEF); its members included, surprisingly, William F. Buckley, Jr.
...in a book called the "Super Trivia Encyclopedia" - 1979 edition. I came to find out more about it, and lo and behold, every reference to the "ABCDEF" is phrased almost identically to this one, which is very similar to that in the Trivia Encyclopedia. Is there anyone who can verify that this cutely-named organization ever actually existed?--Bltpdx 05:24, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ABCDEF?

message: Wikified references. William (Bill) Bean 04:10, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: No one really knows who Robin Hood was. I've edited comment about this.Expat Justin (talk) 16:35, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robert De Vere (the real "Robin Hood") 

message: I don't mean to offend any family who might review this page, or loyal Flynn fans (I'm one too) but when I read the death section it didn't jibe at all with what I'd heard/read:
:Flynn flew with Aadland to Vancouver on 9 October 1959, to sell his yacht Zaca to millionaire George Caldough. On 14 October, Caldough was driving Flynn to the airport when Flynn felt ill. He was taken to the apartment of Caldough's friend, Dr. Grant Gould, uncle of noted pianist Glenn Gould. A party ensued, with Flynn regaling guests with stories and impressions. Feeling ill again, he announced "I shall return" and retired to a bedroom to rest. A half hour later, Aadland checked in on him and discovered him unconscious, Flynn having suffered a massive heart attack. According to the Vancouver Sun (16 December 2006), "When Errol Flynn came to town in 1959 for a week-long binge that ended with him dying in a West End apartment, his local friends propped him up at the Hotel Georgia lounge so that everyone would see him." The story is a myth; following Flynn's death, his body was turned over to a coroner who performed an autopsy, and released his body to his next of kin.
...because also in the Vancouver Sun over the years I gleaned that, famously in Vancouver legend, he died in the arms of a teenage/underage girl in a cabin in Port Coquitlam, specifically in the area of Prairie & Meridian (Prairie and Coast Meridian Road, a major intersection in today's suburb), and it was alcohol poisoning (which can of course cause a heart attack).  I hadn't heard the apartment-party story in fact; the account I'm mentioning is in earlier Vancouver Sun columns, sorry can't remember which columnist, maybe Denny Boyd or Trevor Lautens...it might be in the Chuck Davis Vancouver Book and older Jack Wasserman columns.  There was talk in the article i read about how there was an official version, and a real version....I vaguely remebmer the bit about being propped up in teh bar, but the lurid details of drinking-to-death and freakign out the young girl he was with by dying is standard Errol Flynn lore in Vancouver....Skookum1 (talk) 23:37, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly a more-fun story, more Flynn-esque, than simply going to bed after drinking too much.  I dno't know what the truth is, and sorry I don't have the articles to cite, all I'm doing is relaying the information....Skookum1 (talk) 23:39, 8 December 2008 (UTC)

text: That anecdote about his corpse being propped up in a bar has an echo of a story (also apocryphal, David Niven debunked it when he mentioned it in one of his own autobiographies) that before his funeral the corpse of John Barrymore, a drinking buddy of Flynn who died in 1942, was for a prank sat up in Flynn's Hollywood apartment dressed and holding a whisky glass in one hand. Barrymore's wiki biography states that while Flynn mentioned it in his memoirs, it was denied by Gene Fowler who stood vigil over the body, although retrospectively confirmed by his granddaughter Drew Barrymore.Cloptonson (talk) 09:54, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Circumstances of death - another version

message: Just noticed the IP edits from 91.*.*.*, among which was: "Although from generations of Tasmanians, his family was of Scottish descent."  That would be the Flynns of Clan MacDonald, or the Flynns from Clan Campbell?  Since when is Flynn - one of hte most Irish of Irish names - a Scottish name??Skookum1 (talk) 14:56, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Since when is Flynn a Scottish name?

message: I have removed the allegation regarding Ross Alexander because it is sheer conjecture and simply "piles on" the unproven allegations mentioned in the Higham book. I have also cleaned up some small punctuation errors. Easyid (talk) 13:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Posthumous allegations 

message: Flynn famously shunned Tasmania, claiming he was from Ireland - .  Is this so?  And was he "famous" for having done so?  I've never heard of it.  --  JackofOz (talk) 00:58, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: and so was he  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.189.14.2 (talk) 17:44, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ????  --  JackofOz (talk) 06:07, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Shunned Tasmania?

message: There have been claims that Errol Flynn was either born in Tasmania as this article claims or in Dublin. As at the time of his birth both places were part of the British Empire wouldn't this make Errol Flynn British?
: Yes, technically he was a British subject, but an Australian British subject rather than a Canadian British subject or a Kenyan British subject or even a British British subject.  There was no such thing as Australian citizenship till 1949, but he was still as Australian as they come.  And no, he was not born in Dublin or any other part of Ireland, but in Tasmania, Australia.  --  Jack of Oz  ... speak! ...  12:56, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  birthplace 

message: At the time of Errol Flynns death there were stories that due to his rapidly spending his money he was almost bankrupt.
Flynn was likely bankrupt for a large part of his life. He was a good con man, particularly with women, and never repaid debts. Many Australian residents in New Guinea post WW2 had known Flynn in the 30s, and none had any good memories of him. Once he'd fleeced enough people in one town he'd move to the next.203.219.69.102 (talk) 05:10, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  bankruptcy 

message: What about the Australian Crawl hit 'Errol'? It's basically a biography and is a well-known classic here even though many people only know the chorus. 
Also, there is  a street called Errol Flynn drive, a street in Centennial Park, Sydney (EQ).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.18.223.215 (talk) 12:44, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Posthumous Cultural Reference  

message: Was there ever a discussion for this change made by 207.225.163.16 here? I would think that there is strong case for it to be 'Australian' or 'Australian born' instead of 'Australian-American'. -Depor23 (talk) 14:29, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  After five years silence, I assume that's a no. I dislike the use of this term, because I think it's applied on WP but doesn't exist in reality. The term seems to be used by default here. In fact, although he played an Australian twice in Hollywood films, there is evidence Flynn didn't think of himself in terms of strong Australian identity much at all - noted further in the article. David Niven's memoirs ("The Moon's a Balloon") also confirms Flynn lacking much sense of Australian identity at the outbreak of war 1939. I agree - "Australian born " or "Australian born Hollywood actor" is accurate.Nickm57 (talk) 06:46, 14 January 2016 (UTC)

text: I usually dislike such terms, especially when applied to someone who has never even been to the place listed before the hyphen, but in this case I think it's appropriate. It doesn't seem right to call him "Australian" when the work for which he is best known was done in the US, and he was a US citizen the last 17 years of his life. But I wouldn't just say he was "American" either. Kendall-K1 (talk) 21:23, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: "...was an Australian-born actor who made his career in Hollywood from 1935. He was particularly noted for his romantic swashbuckler roles" would be an alternative, or more simply "...was an actor who made his career in Hollywood from 1935. He was particularly noted for his romantic swashbuckler roles." What are my reasons for objecting to the "Australian-American" label? I get the evidence that events of his childhood and his early acting role for Charles Chauvel were significant but there is no evidence Flynn called himself anything like that label. We all acknowledge, that like many in Hollywood, Flynn fictionalized some of his early life and obscured his origins. But he was not a dual national (one couldn't be of course). And his (unsuccessful) efforts to enlist the US military and his later citizenship is evidence that if he had any national loyalty by the 1940s, it was to the US. I note we don't describe David Niven as a British-American actor, or Constantin Brâncuși as a Roumanian-French sculptor.Nickm57 (talk) 07:29, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Niven is not a good example. He lived as many years in Switzerland as in the US, joined the British Army when war broke out, and never became a US citizen. But I share your dislike of the hyphenated nationality in Flynn's case. I would not want to call him either "Australian" or "American" but I can go with either of the alternatives you suggest. Kendall-K1 (talk) 13:36, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australian-American? 

message: ...to add main character from Disney cartoon "Tangled"? He looks very much like Errol, and even his (wanna be) name is Flynn (Raider).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.30.170.35 (talk) 18:45, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ever considered? 

message: His daughter Arnella Roma died so relatively young, I was wondering what the cause was (drugs? suicide? illness?). Since the article goes into detail about the death of his son Sean, it seems odd not to at least mention the death of one of his daughters who passed away so young. 69.125.134.86 (talk) 16:41, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: She apparently retired to Jamaica in 1995 and developed a drug and alcohol problem that killed her.Arnella Flynn, Too Much Like ErrolArnella Flynn There is not much info about her, I can't find anything that I would want to use as a source. Kendall-K1 (talk) 17:40, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daughter Arnella Roma 

message: It seems like there is a problem with these credits when you get down to the program named "Barbara Stanwyck" (both this line and the one after). But I don't know what the correct information is. Any editor know about his radio career? 69.125.134.86 (talk) 16:41, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Radio credits

message: https://www.google.de/search?q=%22affairs+with+Errol+Flynn%22&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:de:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs&gfe_rd=cr&ei=fKKSU-jxF6uG8QeumoDQAw#channel=rcs&q=gay+affairs+Errol+Flynn&rls=org.mozilla:de:official --87.79.129.180 (talk) 05:28, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, right.  --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 05:32, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  He was gay. Better don't talk about it. 

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message: The problem I have with the link to victim blaming is that regardless of what the source calls it, by definition that's not what happened since there was no crime committed. Kendall-K1 (talk) 17:16, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I don't follow.  Flynn was charged with having sex with two teenage girls, which was illegal, even in 1942.  His attorney argued not that he was innocent, but that he was Errol Flynn -- and what girl could resist, especially these two girls, with their "questionable moral character", despite the fact that they were under-age and could not legally consent to having sex, even with Errol Flynn.  In other words, the victims were blamed.  The fact that he was acquitted is irrelevant, yes? DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 19:23, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Flynn was charged but not convicted. So no crime took place and there were no victims. It doesn't matter what he was charged with or what his attorney argued; if he was acquitted, there were no victims, and no victim blaming. Kendall-K1 (talk) 19:32, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There are a couple of fundamental flaws here: (1) The fact that Flynn was acquitted does not mean that it never happened -- only that the jury didn't agree that he was guilty beyond reasonable doubt. (2) I don't know of any definition of "victim" that makes it contingent on a conviction in court.  Was Emmet Till not a victim, because his murderers were acquitted by a racist jury?  (That was their defense too, BTW -- he "had it coming" for whistling at a white woman -- and his case is frequently cited as a prototype example of victim blaming.)  A murder victim in an unsolved murder is still a victim, and the crime is still a crime, even if nobody is ever tried for it, yes?  If a scumbag rapes a woman and is never caught (or is caught and his guilt can't be proved beyond reasonable doubt), nobody would tell the victim that she wasn't really raped, or that she's not a victim.  An underage participant in a sexual liaison is by legal definition a victim, because he or she cannot legally give consent in such a situation, even if the participant was "willing" (and Flynn drugged at least one of the girls, allegedly).  DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 15:56, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

text: Please re-read the discussion and edit summaries. The cited source refers to Flynn's lawyer's defense tactics as "blaming the victims".  I have no opinion, one way or the other.  To be extra clear. Thank you. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 23:38, 14 September 2015 (UTC)

text: You had better find a couple of really reliable sources for that charge if you want to add it; I don't know of any, and none of the published biographies, including Higham's hatchet job, mention anything of the sort.  The trouble with "trivia game shows" is that they are not held to any factual standards whatsoever. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 18:43, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Victim blaming 

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message: "Thomson" does not appear to have been part of his official, legal name as per his naturalization paperwork (see ). Quis separabit? 21:45, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
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message: There's a claim that does the rounds in my neck of the woods (and even made it into the paper) that Flynn attended the Royal Belfast Academical Institution. Any definitive source on this? I only ask because it hinges on his father Theodore Thomson Flynn being in Belfast in 1921 but our article suggests it wasn't until ten years later that he arrived. As a Belfast man I would like it to be true but would rather hear from some the Flynn experts that handle this page first. Keresaspa (talk) 18:41, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Just checked his autobiography, in which he says he was still in Tasmania in 1921.  He makes no mention of any schooling in Belfast.  His father became chair of the Zoology department at Queen's in 1931, but by then Errol was 22, and shuttling between Papua New Guinea and Australia.  The one biography that I have immediately at hand (Hurst's) says the same.  So I suspect the local scuttlebutt and the Belfast Telegraph are mistaken. DoctorJoeE review transgressions/talk to me! 21:33, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I thought, to be honest. Thank you for checking it out for me. :) Keresaspa (talk) 23:01, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
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message: Much detail appears to be taken up with synopses of his major movies, which are not closely germane to a biography article. The detail could surely be left to articles on the respective movies.Cloptonson (talk) 16:03, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Having had no replies, and checked the plot details in the movies' articles, I am taking steps to edit out the synoptic detail, leaving only material commenting on Flynn's involvement in them.Cloptonson (talk) 20:30, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree - the level of movie plot detail was inappropriate for a biography article. I've felt this was a weakness for sometime.Nickm57 (talk) 21:11, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Major movies - editing welcome

message: In his autobiography he writes how he was a slave trader in New Guinea. I was wanting to remind myself of the facts, so I came here expecting to see something. I'm surprised nothing is in his article, or even a discussion on the matter of inclusion in the talk page here. Has this been a topic of discussion? Is this fact so obscure it's never been brought up, or?
::I assume you haven't noticed - there is a WP page on My Wicked, Wicked Ways, and I notice a very helpful article on his autobiography at Vanity Fair, by Hadley Hall Meares - describing it "as outlandish and problematic as it is utterly absorbing". But in the meantime, this article can't canvas all the claims he makes in his book. Nickm57 (talk) 23:08, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  involvement in slave trade??