Talk:Naruto/Archive 5

message: It states in the character section that Kabuto Yakushi's motives are yet to be discovered.  Was it not revealed when they found out he was under the employ of Sasori to spy on Orochimaru, and that Orochimaru later removed the jutsu?  I forget certain details easily, so I may have missed some other unanswered detail, but I feel that the question of his motives--for the most part--have been revealed. Gederoth 18:12, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters Section Update? 

message: Hey all, changed
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to
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because the "romanized as..." part seemed against normal practaces. If There was a reason for the change, feel free to revert it. :)
-- DesireCampbell 06:46, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's important in some cases. It's like with Bleach. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 06:49, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Um, why? Is it simply because it's used in the logo? And why ALL CAPS? -- DesireCampbell 10:17, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Because Latin alphabet letters are written with all caps when used in Japanese. Danny Lilithborne 11:27, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

text: But isn't that just a style issue, not a translational issue? I just don't see the merit in "Romanized as NARUTO in Japan" over simply showing a common romanization of the Japanese text. -- DesireCampbell 11:53, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: a japanese person would not know what the hell you're talking about with the whole uppercaase or lowercase thing —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.211.104.157 (talk) 07:19, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Romanized as..." 

message: I've found a Naruto site that has some good information. Hopefully, it's good enough to put on the Naruto main page. Tell me what you think:
Leaf Ninja.com
:Kyo catmeow! 18:25, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That site is probably a fansite, and adding it would be like adding spam--SUIT 19:18, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: oh. didn't see that. Kyo catmeow! 19:22, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New External Link 

message: Could somebody tell me/add to the artic(s), what episodes are fillers. How they are fillers. Where the fillers end. And could somebody also tell me/add to the article(s) the summaries of the story arcs? Like have a specific article for the "Sasuke Retrieval" arc for example...? Or could somebody at least tell me someway what the arcs are about? Like, what happens at certain points. Sorry, I just need this info quick. It would be GREATLY appreciated. I have AIM--Bizzarre099 and YIM rai_geary.
:There's a navbox at the bottom of every page. That has your answers. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 21:02, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 101 is an (aweful!) Omake, 102-106 is filler.  Interestingly, Naruto Movie I came from a limited edition manga and it parallels the events of 102-106 so closely that I doubt its a coincidence.  136 onward (to date) is filler, though the events of episode 141 after the return to Konoha are more or less "non-filler". –Gunslinger47 00:28, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

text: A filler is something that is used to take out time and will not forward the story in any way. Such examples are when characters participate in something unrelated to the story (such as when Naruto had to make ramen) or when dedicate an entire episode to showing a character's background (like Anko's flashbacks of her time with Orochimaru).--Benpercent 03:21, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Dragon Ball Z is out of circulation. It doesn't count. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 22:00, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information 

message: I watch development of Naruto in Wikipedia for quite long time, now most of things are covered and I am very thankful to everyone who make it happen. However, there still isn't any article about weapons and equipment. I would do it myself if I could, but I am beginner and don't want to mess things up =) I am willingly to help by any means I am able to help ^_^ Will anyone take care of this? Nara Shikao 19:49, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We had that once. It was deleted. Most of it is character specific and discussed in more detail on their own pages. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 19:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

text: When you mention that, I remember it somewhere deep in my mind. Well, but still there are many things that apply for all ninjas... kunais, shurikens, exploding notes, soldier pills etc. It could be connected with clothing. BTW Such fast reply was surprising. – Nara Shikao 20:07, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps an article about ninja (Naruto)?  There seems to be little discussion about the nature of ninja in the Naruto universe.  They deviate greatly from the standard perception of ninja.  I looked through the entire ninja article and found not a single reference to orange tracksuits! :D –Gunslinger47 21:46, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They're plainclothes ninja, the karate equivalent of undercover police. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 21:53, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But most ninja in Naruto aren't as emotionless and deadly as real-world ninjas. At least, I think so considering that modern society views ninja as emotionless tools of death. 65.100.147.48 19:26, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weapons and equipment 

message: I'm putting it to vote...should there be a page specifically on chakra in the Naruto universe? Chakra (Naruto) a compilation page of collected information rather then scattered information across hundreds of pages on jutsus and episodes? Sign your self to a post either for or against the idea....I'm for it!!! photoguy 22:40, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What would be the purpose of a chakara page?  Is there more to be said than what even casual readers of Naruto would not have already picked up? –Gunslinger47 00:45, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, there is more to be said then what a casual reader would pick up. what i propose is a guide to chakra in the naruto universe. what it is, how it's used, types, elements, training, gates, circulatory system, manipulation, affinities, creation of new elements, etc. rather then catching a piece here and there like you do in reading, a section that would hold everything. chakra in the naruto universe is as important as jutsus are. there will be spoilers for the anime geeks, as much of the profound information was explained in the last 20 or so manga chapters. photodude 04:23, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't seem to get it. There is nothing else about chakra that isn't already quickly and succinctly stated on the jutsu page. Everything else you add is either made up or already mentioned there. Chakra is not something that requires pages of information to explain. It exists as a mix, it's channeled, it produces jutsu, it has types. There's nothing else. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 04:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

text: From what you described, I suggest creating a chakara subsection under jutsu (Naruto).  I've read the article, and it seems like it could use an overview of how elemental chakara plays a part in many of the jutsu.  Additionally, the basic steps of moulding chakara, forming a seal, and completing a jutsu are not overviewed.  If, after creating a quality subsection, everyone feels that it warrants a fork then we can move on from there. –Gunslinger47 04:56, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Jutsu (Naruto)#Chakra. That's about the extent of it. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 05:16, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well done. –Gunslinger47 05:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I'll address all of this. Someguy0830 your to simplistic in your thinking...which shows you only watch the anime or don't pay too much attention to detail. Danny to illustrate my point here is a link to research i have done. [chakra] sorry there are no references at the moment and there are several things that I have not included in the details and some of the new training for the past few manga chapters. photodude 05:25, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh, it's a Japanese comic book.  It's hardly worth insulting people over. Danny Lilithborne 05:27, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean no offence injury or insult...just stateing things as i see it photodude 05:30, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't read your doc, so I don't know what you've written, but what I've written is the extent of what chakra is. Contrary to your assertions, I've read every chapter and seen every episode. I happen to know that what I've written is the general expent of what the series has explained. If the doc you present is anything like the page you created, then nothing else needs to be said. However, if you feel I've missed something, then by all means add to the section I created. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 05:38, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just read his document.  It's rather impressive in how comprehensive it is, being around eight pages in length with 23 pictures.  I've spotted at least one inaccuracy, and a couple uncitable assumptions, but it is generally quite informative for the enthusiastic Naruto fan.  I mean no offense by linking to this, but Wikipedia:Fancruft might be pertinent to the subject. –Gunslinger47 05:52, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

text: If you wish. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 05:50, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: [chakra PDF] it's a big file. photodude 05:58, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Having read that, let me explain why it's unnecessary. Your document, however well writen, is far too comprehensive for this place. Furthermore, most of it is fairly redundant or assumes far too much. I won't bother with the second person tone, as that can be easily fixed. For example, a ninja with no chakra does not collapse or die. They're certainly tired, but they don't collapse. Attempting to push that limit is what causes such problems. Your section about the gates is completely wrong. The hand seal guide, while fine, can be easily linked to instead of written out. Training in the use of chakra is unimportant at best, because it does little to explain the actual purpose of chakra. The chakra capacity thing is really just a limiter, and not actually related to chakra itself. There are other smaller things, but that's the jist of it. What is important to chakra can be said in two short paragraphs. Explaining how to use a ficitional energy serves no purpose in explaining what that energy is. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 06:22, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: to each their own...I leave it to the hands of the community to decide what's needed and write what they will. I still believe there is a point to writing the information both on what chakra is and how it is used in the naruto universe. This is an encyclopedia after all. (an encyclopedia is a comprehensive written compendium that contains information on all branches of knowledge or a particular branch of knowledge.)photodude 06:33, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Chakra (naruto)

message: In regards to the topic of Naruto character names, I've created a quick FAQ about the name order and Might Guy/Maito Gai issues over at User:NeoChaosX/Naruto names. It's in the early stages right now, but it should be a good place to refer to anons/new users who are... confused about why we use certain conventions for Naruto characters. I could use some input on how to improve this or what other issues to address in it. NeoChaosX  (he shoots, he scores!) 06:52, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe explain why it's spelt Hyuga/Hyūga and not Hyuuga? Same could be done about why it's spelt Jonin/Jōnin and not Jounin (which would also apply to Kankuro, Choji, and a couple other words.) ~SnapperTo 04:51, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Added that. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 05:06, 3 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Wow, I completely forgot about that issue. Thanks for pointing that out Snapper, and thanks for adding it Someguy. NeoChaosX  (he shoots, he scores!) 06:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character naming essay 

message: Im sick of Shadzar saying stuff like Naruto's So F**king werid or changing the English Broudcast Section with The shows rated TV-MA when Temari strips. This must stop and if we unlock the page agian he'll just come back.Themasterofwiki 18:40, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the article has been semi-protected anyway (which keeps new accounts from editing the page), so he won't be disturbing this page for awhile. I'd keep my eyes out on the other Naruto pages, though, as another one of his sockpuppets vandalized Naruto Uzumaki before being blocked. NeoChaosX  (he shoots, he scores!) 18:59, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Vandalism is a fact of life on Wikipedia, however it can be reverted with little effort.  In practice, it's less effort to revert than it is to vandalise in the first place.  There's only so long that anyone can keep entertained by such meaningless activities…  That is, assuming no amusing responses can be provoked out of the other editors. –Gunslinger47 23:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: IIRC, I believe it is fairly easy to spoof your MAC address. There's too many problems that could result. Nishkid64 00:10, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Editing the page is only disabled to unregistered or newly registered users.  While we cut off a large segment of potential contributors by semi-protecting the page (which is unfortunate), the majority of the primary contributors are still able to edit. –Gunslinger47 01:08, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While that argument would normally be valid, very rarely do IPs ever contribute anything of value to this page. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 01:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I don't understand why Wikipedia shows the IPs of unregistered users anyhow. That is just asking for the ping of death and/or hackers.--Benpercent 02:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalsim 

message: Should some one put a section about Naruto in popular culture, specificly the show X-play? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.43.180.69 (talk) 23:13, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Being annoyed at endless sub-par Naruto game titles and overuse of the infamous -ttebayo translation is certainly not something unique to X-Play.  As a viewer of both Naruto and X-Play, I don't feel it warrants mention here. –Gunslinger47 03:59, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular culture 

message: Please replace "world,including" with "world, including". 76.185.92.143 01:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 02:06, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No offense but couldn't 76.185.92.143 have done that himself? Wait never mind I forgot about the lock on IP address users and new users. That's why I find it pointless to block off a half (or more) of the wikipedians who aren't regestred (I spelled it wrong). Even though they could just create their own account, maybe they think it costs money that's what kept me from being a member for a year.Sam ov the blue sand 22:09, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Before I became familiar with Wikipedia, I'd often post to the talk pages rather than making edits myself.  For some people, it's not easily to be bold. –Gunslinger47 00:09, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: hehe, for me, I only read the manga once and in a hurry, so I naturally assume the average regular Naruto editor knows about the anime and manga better than I do, so I post to the Talk page first. -Sphinxridd 21:04, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo 

message: Is there an entry someplace about Konaha's Bingo Book?  It's a little fannish, but I would love to see an entry explaining what it is and identifying the characters who have been confirmed to be listed in the book . . . TheronJ 21:05, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They don't make much mention of Konoha's version. Itachi's in there, and Kisame might be, but beyond that I'm not sure. Oh wait, Sasuke's in the most recent one, or at the very least Sai's version. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 21:07, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bingo book?