Talk:Gypsy jazz

message: @Billinghurst could you explain me why the link I add a bout a gyspy jazz method (http://guitarejazzmanouche.com/en_wiki/index.php/Category:Gypsy_Jazz_Method) is more commercial than truefire.com a online shop for online lessons or even djangopedia which contains more Adsense than mine? Thanks for explanation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.205.253.177 (talk) 13:41, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commercial links 

message: Shouldn't Django's name be listed as Jean-Baptiste?  It is not like in English where the name is separated, rather it is common French name, like Jean-Pierre, Jean-Jacques, Jean-Luc, etc.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.194.65.196 (talk) 20:21, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Django's name wasn't Jean-Baptiste, that is a persisent false rumour, which
has been discussed extensively on the Django Reinhardt page 1Z (talk) 16:17, 5 April 2012 (UTC)
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message: All these uses of Gypsy, yet not a single pointer to Romani people? (FWIW, my granddad was Rom, and we take pride in being "of Gypsy blood," so I hope nobody goes all PC on this article just for that reason.) Weeb Dingle (talk) 17:15, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The words Gypsy, Manouche, and Romani are all in the lead section and are now wikilinked. Tony 1212 (talk) 23:02, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  wtf. 

message: In my opinion this article badly needs a "History" section: compare for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz#History. I am happy to create one if no-one thinks this is a bad idea... Cheers Tony 1212 (talk) 23:05, 10 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, new section added, see what you think... Tony 1212 (talk) 05:59, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need for "History" section 

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message: Here are the sources introduced by the editor who has been using IPs from Hudson, New York. They are interesting, and may provide good viewpoints for this article. Binksternet (talk) 05:36, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
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message: Hey, i’ve been informed that many regard the G word when referring to Roma as a slur (and all other language variations), seeing as the article name in this instance contains said word, I propose that we change it to something like "Romani Jazz" (since i believe its standard wikipedia protocol and this is a big active page, i came here to build consensus)
P.S. i'm aware many Roma also use this term in reclamation and take great pride in it, and I respect that, I'm not Roma myself so specifically i'd like your input on this as it is a matter of your people above all else
:Jazz Manouche, Roma Jazz, or Hot Club Jazz would all seem like acceptable alternatives.
"Jazz Manouche" would probably be the proper name. It seems like the next most common term for this genre. Manouche is not simply the french translation of the slur. It's an autonym—what the people call themselves. (root is 'manus' in Romani, i.e. 'human,' whereas 'gyp' comes from 'Egyptian,' a mistaken guess on where the Roma people originated.) 
On the other hand: while I personally support changing the name (g*psy is indeed a slur), the current article name is what it's known by 90% of the time. I'm not sure of Wikipedia etiquette when it comes to this. 2600:6C46:6D7F:7400:3009:6441:2AE3:99D (talk) 10:05, 22 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia generally goes by the common name, even if there are moral reasons to use a different name, so I think a formal move request would be unlikely to gain consensus until the common usage shifts. Cheers,  talk 17:52, 13 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name change proposal & other questionable wording 

message: This article has been edited to replace most mentios of gypsy with roma or manouche, but nobody refers to this music as manouche jazz. Wikipedia should be descriptive and refer to it as gypsy jazz as most people do. Miro8888 (talk) 12:49, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the people who actually play the music, in my experience, call it hot club jazz. 73.149.64.233 (talk) 14:55, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manouche jazz