Talk:Grytviken

message: Regarding the removed statement about the first wedding in history having taken place in February 2006 — certainly not so; there had been several marriages before, the first one being registered on 24 February 1932, between A.G.N. Jones and Vera Riches.  (Cf. R.K. Headland's book). Apcbg 20:48, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: First marriage

message: Did anyone get shot in the Falkland War? Did they shot at each other and miss? leave bullet holes in the buildings? was it even a battle?
649 Argentine servicemen, 255 British serviceman and three Falkland Islanders died as a consequence of the fighting during the Falklands war.2.217.150.216 (talk) 11:42, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: How brief was the battle?

message: Normal usage is currently that Grytviken is the whaling station at the head of the cove, King Edward Point is the low promontory at the mouth and the cove itself is King Edward Cove. The original name Grytviken will have meant the cove and the land around it - there were no buildings or activity in 1902 when it was named by Andersson of the Swedish Antarctic Expedition when he walked over from Maiviken and found it
 I have moved the link to the Argentine met station to the KEP page. Also removed a paragraph about the GSGSSI/BAS research station, which is also at KEP not Grytviken.PatLurcock 17:00, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grytviken or King Edward Point? 

message: Is needed. RoyalMate1 01:00, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population? 

message: I'm using the Chrome browser at the moment, and in the 'Falklands War' sub-section between the paragraph ending "remaining under British control." and "On April 25, the Royal Navy damaged and captured the Argentine submarine" I have three 'edit' points.  One for this section and one each for the two preceding sections.  I can't see anything wrong with the code but then I'm not that good at it.  Is it Chrome that's interpreting it wrongly or is there something wrong with the coding of this entry? --213.208.117.47 (talk) 19:54, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, it seems to be the presence of pictures that push these edit links out of the way. Probably some of those pictures could be moved to the bottom or something. --OpenFuture (talk) 08:56, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made changes that fixes this problem, and also put's the pictures close to the topics. --OpenFuture (talk) 22:21, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They don't fix the problem, they make it worse.  Justin talk 22:22, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: So **you** fix it, then. But don't edit war. IMPROVE. --OpenFuture (talk) 22:31, 30 December 2009 (UTC)

text: Oh give it a rest.  Justin talk 23:20, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Give what a rest? I said above I tried to fix the problem. You claim it created another problem. It has now been reverted. I therefore pointed out that the problem is not fixed. Is this somehow confusing for you? --OpenFuture (talk) 23:34, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps giving it a rest from the stupid pig headed edit warring, you've now made six reverts.  I rarely if ever make a 3RR report for an established editor but you are truly testing my patience.  Justin talk 23:47, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You have broken my patience a long time ago. Why don't you listen to what people tell you, and this whole thing could have been avoided? Or even better, you could have looked at the diff when you did the edit, seen that you reverted more than you intended, and fixed it. In that case I wouldn't have reverted anything, but instead I would have tried to convince you to fix the [edit]-link problem without breaking the layout for you. But you reverted three different things, but only mentioning one. And when I pointed this out you did it again. And again. Yes, pig headed is the right word for that. How about listening to explanations next time? --OpenFuture (talk) 23:53, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit or Chrome? 

message: The article says Grytviken is Swedish. I'm pretty sure it's Norwegian, though. Linguistically, it could be both (Norwegian: gryte; Swedish: gryta), and I can't find any sources, but the place was founded by a Norwegian, primarily used by Norwegian whalers, and the church came from Norway, so I think one should have a strong case to claim it's Swedish. Does anybody know more? --Thathánka Íyotake (talk) 04:40, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not about claims, it's about facts.  The settlement was established by Norwegians in 1904, taking its name from the cove 'Grytviken' which had been named two years before that by Swedes.  (The place had been inhabited by English sealers in the 19th century who left artifacts but no name.)  See the relevant paragraph in the article History of South Georgia and the South Sandwich Islands. Apcbg (talk) 05:46, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The name stems from the Swedish expedition not from the settlement founded by Larsen.  Is this why we repeatedly have to correct people switching Swedish to Norwegian? Wee Curry Monster talk 08:46, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems so. This even though the sentence directly after points out it was named by the Swedish expedition. --OpenFuture (talk) 09:00, 26 January 2011 (UTC)

text: Sorry but your personal speculation is not grounds for tagging cited content.  I've added more cites and the last cite I added explained where it comes from (Swedish gryt = pot, vik = cove).  I trust that is the end of it?  WCMemail 22:45, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree, given that the citation given (and further ones you've added) are not available to view, they could all be based on the original citation. That I tagged it, to open it for further discussion, should not be an issue as Wikipedia policy is to give due weight to opposing or minority views, and discuss them on the talk page. Whether you think it is my personal speculation is up to you, but I have provided sources to back what I've said as much as possible, not to mention the "Pot Bay" name does not tally with the chronological settlement history. Also, you'll note that the alternative translation, "pile of stones" is also listed on the translation page for Gryt you linked to. Lastly, I'd advise you to re-read WP policy regarding WP:Assume good faith, WP:Civility and WP:Be bold.Lacunae (talk) 09:15, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Your comments are based on your own personal interpretation of linguistics and not any source suggesting that the content is incorrect.  You didn't provide sources in the way wikipedians are supposed to use then, you were conducting speculation and synthesis ie WP:OR and WP:SYN.  Further, I have provided you with links to Google books and, although I personally detest use of snippets, you can see enough to verify the claim made eg .  I am somewhat bemused why a straight forward reply would provoke any editor to lecture another about WP:AGF and WP:Civility but allow me to point out that your personal inability to view a cite is not a valid reason for questioning the integrity of another editor, as that is tantamount to an accusation of citation fraud.  If you would like to take your concerns about my ability to assume good faith and be civil in this exchange, please by all means raise your concerns at WP:ANI. WCMemail 11:22, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

text: And it is for these very reasons, the only edit I made to the page was to add a dubious tag. "Add  after a specific statement or alleged fact which is sourced but which nevertheless seems dubious or unlikely. Most commonly, this involves uncertainty regarding the veracity or accuracy of the given source, or of an editor's interpretation of that source. This template's wording is milder than that of , which indicates that the material in question is being directly challenged as being incorrect." Which I didn't see as anything beyond the pale. I agree, the material I have is not strong enough to use as a challenge on the main article, hence this talk. Also, I wish to point out that I am not challenging your integrity, merely pointing out that the other citations are likely based on the account by Andersson, rather than being independent analyses of the name derivation.Lacunae (talk) 16:49, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norwegian 

message: I'm somewhat unconvinced this translation of the Swedish is accurate. Generally Swedish toponymy tends to be descriptive, and as I recall the logic to Gryta, as in pot/cauldron would be due to rendering vessels remaining from whale processing doesn't tally with a Swedish initial naming, followed by Norwegian settlement as a whaling station. Though perhaps the situation of the bay, surrounded by mountains is like a pot? I think it may well be equally likely that the name derives from Gryt, with the meaning in older swedish of pile of stones, or more modern burrow, cognate with English grit.Lacunae (talk) 19:47, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry but your personal speculation is not grounds for tagging cited content.  I've added more cites and the last cite I added explained where it comes from (Swedish gryt = pot, vik = cove).  I trust that is the end of it?  WCMemail 22:45, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree, given that the citation given (and further ones you've added) are not available to view, they could all be based on the original citation. That I tagged it, to open it for further discussion, should not be an issue as Wikipedia policy is to give due weight to opposing or minority views, and discuss them on the talk page. Whether you think it is my personal speculation is up to you, but I have provided sources to back what I've said as much as possible, not to mention the "Pot Bay" name does not tally with the chronological settlement history. Also, you'll note that the alternative translation, "pile of stones" is also listed on the translation page for Gryt you linked to. Lastly, I'd advise you to re-read WP policy regarding WP:Assume good faith, WP:Civility and WP:Be bold.Lacunae (talk) 09:15, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Your comments are based on your own personal interpretation of linguistics and not any source suggesting that the content is incorrect.  You didn't provide sources in the way wikipedians are supposed to use then, you were conducting speculation and synthesis ie WP:OR and WP:SYN.  Further, I have provided you with links to Google books and, although I personally detest use of snippets, you can see enough to verify the claim made eg .  I am somewhat bemused why a straight forward reply would provoke any editor to lecture another about WP:AGF and WP:Civility but allow me to point out that your personal inability to view a cite is not a valid reason for questioning the integrity of another editor, as that is tantamount to an accusation of citation fraud.  If you would like to take your concerns about my ability to assume good faith and be civil in this exchange, please by all means raise your concerns at WP:ANI. WCMemail 11:22, 7 October 2015 (UTC)

text: And it is for these very reasons, the only edit I made to the page was to add a dubious tag. "Add  after a specific statement or alleged fact which is sourced but which nevertheless seems dubious or unlikely. Most commonly, this involves uncertainty regarding the veracity or accuracy of the given source, or of an editor's interpretation of that source. This template's wording is milder than that of , which indicates that the material in question is being directly challenged as being incorrect." Which I didn't see as anything beyond the pale. I agree, the material I have is not strong enough to use as a challenge on the main article, hence this talk. Also, I wish to point out that I am not challenging your integrity, merely pointing out that the other citations are likely based on the account by Andersson, rather than being independent analyses of the name derivation.Lacunae (talk) 16:49, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: The pot bay

message: Substituted at 16:48, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

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message: Other sources say this about South Georgia Island: that is has no permanent population - only visitors. This clearly states that the island is uninhabited, hence population = zero.05:39, 6 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other sources say this about South Georgia Island...