Talk:Survivor (franchise)/Archive 1

message: The last sentence seems to be outdated - I was tempted to delete it.  Does anyone know enough current information to update it? Piha 03:01, 31 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last sentence 

message: Get rid of the Guatemala section as it has a seperate Wiki as well as the Survivor Trivia part. Remove all non Survivor information from the timeline (like MB pitching Contender, Apprentice etc.). That's some of my ideas. -- WestJet
::Good ideas.  I think the main problem with this article is it is far too long.  I'd also like to see the Survivor Contestants sections as a separate page, and possibly a rewrite of some current sections to make them more concise. Jtrost 00:24, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  My cleanup idea 

message: Sue Hawk does NOT qualify as someone who was never voted out of her tribe, as she was voted out in her original season.  Jenna Morasca, the other All-Star quitter, DOES count, as she won her previous season, and therefore left All-Stars without ever being voted off. Mo0[talk] 04:41, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sue Hawk 

message: I am working my way through the seasons of Survivor.  I do not want to see who won each one!  I do, however, want to be able to read info on where each season's episodes were set etc.  Someone needs to remove the names of winning contestants and put them in a list at the end, with a spoiler warning:
(). 
I would just do it myself, but obviously to do that I ...
Chamaeleon 22:52, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Agh!  No spoiler warning! 

message: Would anyone mind if I delete the section in misc. about most popular and least popular Survivors? That is based only on the Survivor polls (season by season) at the CBS website, and is highly subjective. It only comments on who is most or least popular in that season, at that time. --JamesB3 14:27, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popularity poll - delete? 

message: Is there a basis for the list in the section "Best Survivor moments according to Survivor: All-Stars" or is it simply User:66.9.199.124's favourite moments?  It seems POV, and was deleted once by User:RickK as such.  If anyone can provide a source for this list or write a little blurb to explain it in the article it would be appreciated. Or if you feel it should be removed, I'd definitely support that.  --NormanEinstein 02:46, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If I remember correctly, during "Survivor: America's Tribal Council" they had some clips as they went into commercial which listed the "Best Survivor Moments". This recap references the moments. --JamesB3 12:25, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Best Survivor moments according to Survivor: All-Stars" section 

message: That section takes up a huge amount of space. I was hoping to include a section on some of the show's legsl issues (Stacey's lawsuit, a challenge error in season 3, etc.) but don't want to do so when the maximum amount of room has already been used on this page. Can I move the Trivia/Facts section to a new page? --JamesB3 12:59, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move the "Trivia/Interesting Facts" to separate page? 

message: I'm new
He is called Philippe and he won the 4th edition of Survivor France (year : 2004)
Thank you
I have added Philippe. Thank you for this information. DonBruce 16:29, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can you add the winner of Survivor France 2004 ? 

message: *...is a cast list followed by a summary of each episode of each season, like many of the other reality TV shows have here at Wikipedia. DonBruce 13:17, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: What we don't have here at 'Survivor'...

message: i just redid the table of survivors, splitting it into one table for each season. however, i kind of wonder whether it woudl be better to just repoint people to the individual season articles, which have nicer, color-coded tables....? Anastrophe 21:39, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Good edits.  I also think the expedition robinson section should be moved to its appropriate wiki page.  Above I suggested making the Survivor contestants section its own page so we'd have a quick reference to all the players.  Once we get this fixed maybe we should have it peer reviewed.  I'm not too familiar with the procedure to have the cleanup notice removed, but I'd like to get this article fixed soon. Jtrost 04:34, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: survivors table

message: i did a bit of cleanup of the top of the tribal council text. however, one stretch i'm not sure about - in the third bullet point: "The newest rule is the same as Marquesas, except that the players who were tied in votes would be immune, and everyone else would draw rocks". that doesn't sound right. it sounds like someone who wasn't voted for could be the one voted off? or was it meant to say that the players who were tied for votes would not *vote*? i'm confused....! Anastrophe 05:54, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I edited that sentence out.  It was misleading and confusing.  I think the third bullet point sounds good now. Jtrost 23:33, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: tribal council

message: I've done some more cleanup on the Chronology and also added two images to reduce the amount of whitespace.  Then I was looking at the external links for Survivor USA and realized there's A LOT of them.  Here's the list:
# RealityFanForum.com - Message Boards & Spoilers
# Reality TV Magazine: Survivor - Reports on Survivor news
# Survivor.com
# UK Gameshows Page: Survivor
# R2TV.com
# realityshack.com
# Unofficial Survivor Guide Forums
# Survivor All-Stars - The Complete Season
# Survivor Skills
# Google Earth Survivor Locations
# The Official CBS website
# Survivor: The Comic Series
# Jefferios: Survivor Media
# [2] Survivor Sucks is the largest 'discusion' of reality TV games online
# [3] Survivor Fever is a breaking news, information, and spoiler site
# [4] Survivor News is another breaking news, information, and spoiler site
(Note that the last three are citations)
Do we really need all of these?  A lot of these seem to be fansites that offer a lot of the same information.  Personally, I only go to Survivor Sucks and Survivor News.  I would suggest keeping the Google Earth Survivor Locations, the official CBS website, and the three citations.  I think everything else needs to go.  What does everyone else think? Jtrost 23:10, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's pretty sick, so wat if all of it have the same infos and who cares if u only go to 3sites ur not the only one using internet there's also peoples that go in those sites ur harsh u don't know how hard to build a site and yes the links that u erased should be back, keep it back! and the new pic has nothing to do with the premise.--Hotwiki 07:19, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm assuming that you're upset because I removed your website from that list. Jtrost 13:45, 7 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I'm sorry but in those 16 links that u listed my site is not included, all those sites are still active specially the forums.--Hotwiki 07:47, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Your site was not listed because you added it after I made this talk page topic.  Regardless, what I think it boils down to is that most of those sites do not meet these requirements. Jtrost 13:25, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Watever--Hotwiki 13:43, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: I moved Pulau Tiga to Borneo and switched the redirects and modified the template.  If several people object, feel free to switch it back, but Borneo is the common name (it even says to in the article). Deckiller 01:47, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pulau Tiga moved to Borneo 

message: During one episode in Guatemala, members of the Yaxha tribe
visited the Nakum tribe and invited them back to their camp for a birthday party.
There is no indication as to whether the rule has changed or if this was a one-time event.
Just thinking about that episode, I remember that no one from  Yaxha actually went up to the Nakum Camp, they stayed in the boat and shouted up. Once back at the Yaxha camp, the Nakum tribe stayed confined to the area of the floating swimming area, so i'm just thinking that this might be the reason that this rule was not violated, because *technically* they didn't set foot in each others camps. Just a thought.
We should also really mention how in the 2nd season Survivor: Australia Survivors actually did visit a TV Crew compound when Michael Skupin was injured and left the game. For those who don't remember of have never seen the 2nd season (HIGHLY reccomended -- it really is the best season of the show IMHO) Skupin was taken back to a TV Crew tent thing while they waited for the heliocopter to arrive. This is probably also worth mentioning there.
AdamJacobMuller 17:56, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game Rules -- Guatemala and Australia 

message: ::*In the Second Season of Survivor, Colby Donaldson Illegaly removed corals from the great barrier reef to give to the Barramundi tribe to benefit his standing in the game. CBS faced major Legal problems with the Australian Government. Also, according to Survivor Rules, if you break a Local OR an INTERNATIONAL LAW, a Contestant will be disqualified from the game. Colby was not... which changed the entire outcome of Survivor: The Australian outback
I removed this from the article, it's totally unreferenced and it reeks of NPOV, can someone reference this or have some clue if this has *any* validity. At least, I think that the rule in the game refers to violations of the law within the context of the game. AdamJacobMuller 06:45, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I remember that being all over the news after the episode aired.  I think if we can find a source we can rewrite it and include it again.  Thanks for catching that! Jtrost 15:36, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed Controversy 

message: You may wish to participate in Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Keith Famie which is discussing the deletion of Keith Famie, Jeff Varner, Rodger Bingham, Greg Buis, Gervase Peterson, Nick Brown (Survivor), and Tammy Leitner.  --Rob 14:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the heads up. I've gone over and made my voice heard on the matter. -- MisterHand 15:04, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Group deletion nomination for Survivor contestants 

message: You may wish to particpate in the following discussions:
* - Survivor: Palau
* - Survivor: Vanuatu
--Rob 00:32, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survivors [[Kim Mullen]] and [[Ami Cusack]] up for deletion 

message: How bout something new: Survivor in ALASKA or ICELAND?!  ---     GUÐSÞEGN   – UTEX – 23:33, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survivor, GO NORTH!