Talk:Musō Jikiden Eishin-ryū

message: I've noticed that this mon seems to be worn by quite a few Eishin Ryu iaidoka. Why is this? What's the history of it? How did it become associated with Eishin Ryu? Thanks!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.11.148.226 (talk) 12:59, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In yamauchi-ha we use the nine bamboo leaves, encircled. It seems to be a fairly common mon - when a bunch of us were in Japan a few years ago you could see keyrings and so on with this mon for sale in some shops.
Scottprobst (talk) 07:55, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eishin Ryu Mon? 

message: What the topic says. The list of kata and the works is taking up alot of space in this article. I think we can afford to move them to a new article and expand the other sections of Eishin-ryu instead. Any yays or nays? Fred26 20:57, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we seperate the kata/waza/techniques and put them in a new article? 

message: The article uses two different versions of Oe Masamichi's name. This is confusing and inconsistent.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.150.177.249 (talk) 10:10, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ōe sensei's name 

message: I know some of, but not all, of my own style's lineage and history, but not well enough to post all of it without verifying it first.  If you study MJER, regardless of your particular governing affiliation (znir/znkr/dnir/dnkr/etc etc), and know history of your affiliation, or your lineage, etc... please add it (here or article).  I know we all believe in our own lineage strongly, but hopefully through all of it, we can find some common truths, or find a way to incorporate all of it into the story that is MJER today. (70.122.231.223 10:46, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: The name is actually pronounced tachihiza, not tatehiza. The sitting posture is correctly called tatehiza nowadays, but it was also read tachihiza in olden days and this is the reading in both Musō Jikiden and Musō Shinden. Bidouleroux (talk) 01:01, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Name of chūden

message: Since Oe Masamichi was a legitimate headmaster, him renaming the school from Hasegawa Eishin Ryu to Muso Jikiden Eishin Ryu, and reorganizing the curriculum, does not really constitute forming a new school (as headmaster and kogen no maki, he was within his right)
Furthermore, it is obvious, that if we start looking at it from the point of view of a name, all the various parts of MJER, such as Eishin Ryu, Omori Ryu, etc, just from the name, are their own schools, which is obviously nonsense.  
Additionally, it is obvious, again, from the name, that prior to being called Hasegawa Eishin Ryu, the school was called something else (Shinmei Muso Ryu?), since Hasegawa Eishin was only 7th headmaster. 
Point is, argument that "in 1900s the name got changed, so it's a different school now" is a fallacy, since the techniques remained the same.  
Lastly, Japanese practitioners of note (Mitani, Yamakoshi, Iwata), clearly felt that it is koryu, as opposed to ZNKR Seitei.
Therefor, I am changing the opening paragraph back to reflect that this is a koryu school, with origins in 1600s, that currently fractured into multiple branches.
Urokugaeshi (talk) 21:14, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Age of school

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