Talk:The Dagda

message: I think that because of the fact that Celtic mythology is so inconsistent, it should be addressed here. Does anyone disagree? The wife of The Dagda, for example, is not always said to be Breg. In fact, the article suggests that he took the Mórrígan as a lover, but most say the Mórrígan was his wife. A good example can be found at Encyclopedia Mythica. I am by no means a myth expert and it wouldn't be appropriate for me to tackle the article, but I'd like to see it built onto properly if there are any takers. I can work on the grammar if anyone would be willing to take the notes. MagnoliaSouth (talk) 17:08, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The timing suggested in the article makes no sense. It says that the Dagda ruled Ireland before dying at the Brú na Bóinne, finally succumbing to a wound inflicted by Cethlenn during the first battle of Magh Tuiredh. This seems to imply that he died before the second battle of Magh Tuiredh, but that isn't possible because, as this article also says, Prior to the battle with the Fomorians (Which is the second battle of Magh Tuiredh), he coupled with the goddess of war, the Morrigan, on Samhain in exchange for a plan of battle. And if he was king of Ireland before the second battle of Magh Tuiredh, there is no way he could have been king after Lugh, because Lugh became king after Nuadha was killed by Balor during the second battle of Magh Tuiredh. Lugh wasn't even born until after the first battle of Magh Tuiredh. The suggestion that the Dagda was the son of Elatha or of Eithlinn also seems suspicious. Elatha is traditionally the father of Bres, and Eithlinn is the mother of Lugh. My source for this information is Over Nine Waves by Mary Heaney. Celsiana 19:52, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately for encyclopedia editors, Irish mythology is inconsistent and sometimes contradictory, and a coherent "timeline" is impossible to construct. You can't expect to get a full picture of the subject from a single secondary source. I haven't read Over Nine Waves, but Heaney, like most modern writers, has probably simplified a bit. But why couldn't Elatha or Ethlinn not have had several children? At some point I'll try and track down the texts the various elements of the Dagda's "biography" come from (most of the Irish myth entries are a bit lacking in this respect). --Nicknack009 12:30, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I'd agree on the 'inconsistent' part. I just added a bit to the page about how the Dagda is sometimes said to be the father of Danu, and not the son. It comes from Rolleston's Celtic Myths and Legends, where he says, "Dana also sometimes bears another name, that of Brigit..." and "She was the daughter of...the god Dagda, 'The Good.'" I've also seen is as having Dagda be the son of Danu, though...so...yeah. If anyone feels this information is particularly wrong, go ahead and delete the change I made.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.120.73.180 (talk) 01:49, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Accuracy

message: I don't have a copy at hand to check, but I am told that the citation of Maire McNeill that is used to support the association of the Dagda with Crom Cruach/Dubh does not actually support that. Could someone check and adjust that assertion as needed? Whateley23 (talk) 11:14, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crom? No. 

message: This article is a mess. There are tons of unsupported statements that come out of pop culture rather than the source material. It's going to need some massive revision to be useful. Whateley23 (talk) 11:32, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Needs Revision 

message: The article says his harp is Uaithne, but the link to which is connects says Uaithne is His harper, not the harp, and names the harp as Daur da Bláo (which I have seen elsewhere). I'm honestly not as well-versed in His lore as I should be, so I'm not sure which to correct, but clearly some kind of clarification is in order.
*Septegram*Talk*Contributions* 04:45, 13 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  His Harp