Talk:Halo universe/The Ark (Halo)

message: Wouldn't the Ark from Halo more directly refer to Noah's Ark, built to survive a great and terrible Flood?  While it is most certainly related to biblical and holy things, how it relates to the Ark of the Covenant seems to be much more contrived? 24.11.71.242 12:50, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It could be both: an ark is somewhere where things are kept safe. That's why both Noah's Ark and the Ark of the Covenant are so named. --Kgaughan 00:54, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ark 

message: 343 Guilty Spark is bound by protocol and logic. He asks why the Covenant refer to the "Great Journey" and such with "such inacurate verbiage" Why then when asked where to activate the other installations does he reply with "The Ark"? Shouldn't he have had some other name for it?
--Logan Payne 18:17, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He might have no need. An ark can be somewhere/something where something is kept to preserve it. The word 'ark' itself means 'chest'. --Kgaughan 20:28, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd Verbiage 

message: There seems to be an overly large amount of biblical analysis in this article, and I'm thinking that some of it should be removed to streamline the article. Obviously some should be kept, but I feel the large majority is drifting off-topic. --Fearfulsymmetry 9:23, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biblical References 

message: This paragraph is incorrect:
Many players who distrust Cortana also reference the fact that she is "present" in this scene as a "passenger" in Master Chief's armour and Guilty Spark may be speaking to her as one of the Halo novels makes a reference to Cortana discovering Covenant AIs resemble damaged copies of herself. Another possibility is that as the "Spark" caretakers of the two Halos discovered thus far seem to be a form of AI, that, if humans are "Reclaimers", and AIs like Cortana are based on human brains, as described in the novel "The Fall of Reach" the Halos may be unable to kill Artificial Intelligences and AI "remnants" like the "Sparks" could be awaiting "reclaimers" protected by the Ark.
I happened to play Halo again last night and when I came to read this today, I had to wonder what the writer was thinking. When 343 Guilty Spark speaks to the Master Chief, Cortana is in the core and not in the MC's armour, and 343GS never addresses her in such a manner as to indicate that it thinks she's a Reclaimer. References: Two Betrayals Transcript and cutscene video. I'm removing this paragraph.
::This article is/was full of weird crap that either doesn't make sense, is incorrect, or is unrelated to the subject. I removed a lot of stuff earlier but I guess I missed that one (I haven't played the game in a while). Thanks. -- Fearfulsymmetry 13:36, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect speculation on Cortana 

message: Well i was reading through the text only two references about Halo 2 storyline (4 if you include the words Halo 2 found in the text).
From this section on the ark, the only two meaningful halo 2 extracts says that delta halo is armed and 343gs did not refer to brutes etc as reclaimer on MC.
Now what about in the speculation section we add:
1. Regret's mysterious attack on earth? 2. Regret only stopped at New Mobasa, why? 3. Regret's bad intel about his enemy's homeworld? 4. Regret's small fleet when attacking? 5. Forgive his premature arrival, arguing that no human presence was foretold? 6. Why would Truth head to Earth, if it wasn't something to do with "the great Journey"?
Cortana talks about these items to the chief at various points in the game, while also the the person in control can see these as well.
I think these need to be added, but ofcourse this is just my opinion
:If you feel like it should be added, then i myself don't have any real problem with it. There is a paucity of Halo 2 references mainly because so little is mentioned in Halo 2 about the Ark. - Fearfulsymmetry 16:41, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not enough halo 2 information 

message: BrownBear, would you mind elaborating on the paragraph you wrote about in Speculation about references to Asimov's Foundation Series? I was interested in knowing what you were refering to specifically, but I couldn't find the component of the story that you say is referenced. So if you could explain the reference a bit more that would be great. -- Fearfulsymmetry 07:21, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Asimov Reference?

message: I just played through the first part of Halo 2 again and i gotta say... am i wrong in thinking that the screen angle where the slipspace rupture floods New Mombasa is exactly the same shot as in the Halo 3 trailer just after the camera follows the covenant ships to show the Ark? WookMuff 10:29, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Mombasa... 

message: IF the Ark referred to is a biblical Ark (noah's or... the other one) then would it not stand to reason that TECHNICALLY, the Bible is in fact based on the Halo storyline and no vice versa? I think we should point that out, if not go and change the article for Bible WookMuff 05:03, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The storyline REFERENCES the Bible. No one is saying that the Halo Ark is the Biblical Ark, it's merely describing the fact that the name is a reference to it. For the love of God, you people...--Fearfulsymmetry 01:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

text: So why don't you stop whining about it and fix it? --Fearfulsymmetry 01:55, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biblical reference? 

message: Cleanup complete. Vast swatchs of the former article didn't even reference the Ark, let alone relate to it. With major deletions, cleanup is complete. Now the challenge is to unstubbidfy the article. Gspawn 12:34, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Added Halo/Bungie infoboxes, etc. Looks like a Halo article now. Feel free to make additions to get this page's content back up to speed, but don't turn this back into a mess of unencyclopedic original research. Gspawn 13:03, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bringing out the Big Guns 

message: I went ahead and added the Elite dialogue from the Halo Graphic Novel, which confirms that the Covenant landed at Mombasa to secure the Ark. Peptuck 06:26, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: HGN Confirmation