Talk:Elfstedentocht

message: The Piet_Keizer mentioned on this page can't be the one linked to, unless he won the Elfstedentocht when he was three years old. And iceskating and playing soccer are two different things. -- Vinny
: That's right. I've changed the link. Eugene van der Pijll 17:18, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Piet Keizer

message: I think the article does cite references and sources.. Why does it raise questions and how can that be improved?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kletskous (talk • contribs) 21:34, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The statement concerning the lack of references is dated 2008.  I added most of the references in 2009 and caused a problem when somebody tried to revert some of my links to the Dutch langusge Wikipedia.  (List of winners) Martinvl (talk) 08:20, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: This article does not cite any references or sources

message: I have re-instated the Dutch links.
WP:LINK defines the Wikipedia policy on foreign language links. In particular may I draw your attention to the phrase in the section that discussed non-English language sites: "Linking to non-English pages may still be useful for readers ... when the webpage contains key or authoritative information found on no English-language site and is used as a citation".  If you can find English language references to the people named in the winners list, then please replace the Dutch language link with thise links. If not, then leave the Dutch links alone and don't deprive those of us who can read Dutch of the ability to follow them up - after all this is a Dutch event.
I have been through most of them and within the English-language version of Wikipedia, they would fail to qualify for inclusion in Wikipedia under the WP:NOTE criteria.  In my view, they barely qualify under the Dutch rules, but the Dutch editors have seen fit to write articles on each winner, so it is only right that there be links from other language sites to the Dutch site.  
BTW, if you have ever looked at the Dutch Wikipedia site, you would be surprised how often they reference English-language articles. 
Martinvl (talk) 19:56, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Reinstatement of Dutch links

message: I presented a skate race in 1991 that started in Fresno, California and ended in Bakersfield, California. The distance was 138 miles from start to finish. The winner of the race was Sandy Snakenberg who did it in 9:21:42. The event was featured in Sports Illustrated Magazine in June, 1991 http://www.cora.org/SportsIllustrated6-91.htm  It was also featured on the front pages of several newspapers including the Fresno Bee http://www.cora.org/FresnoBee4-14-91.htm  and the Bakersfield Californian http://www.cora.org/bakersfield4-14-91.htm
This event is longer than the one mentioned here which is about 124 miles long.  However ours was an inline skate race as opposed to an ice event.
D. Miles Jr.
The GodFather of Sk8
http://www.cora.org  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.67.145.59 (talk) 21:34, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longest skate race in the world - Fresno CA. to Bakersfield, CA.  138 miles 

message: I have reworked the text that we had for the 2012 non-event to illustrate what happens in practice - the committee met on 6 February and the race could have been run on 11 February.  As far as I am aware, no other event in the world is arranged at such short notice, which makes this schedule notable. Martinvl (talk) 17:15, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Case study

message: "The tour of 1985 was terminated prematurely because of thawing; as early as 22:00 in the evening skaters were taken off the ice. In 1986 the Dutch Crown Prince Willem-Alexander completed the Elfstedentocht under the name W.A. van Buren, Van Buren being a traditional pseudonym of the Royal House."
The name van Buren refers to a subsidiary title of the King (qQueen) of the Netherlands: Baron(esse) van Buren. As such, the name van Buren is not a pseudonym. The name ( and its title of Baron) can be used in the manner of a courtesy title by the crown prince.
It is a common misunderstanding by the Dutch, whereas Dutch heraldy allows for courtesy titles and there is nothing "pseudonym" in using the name van Buren.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.151.107.14 (talk) 13:59, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect use of the word Pseudonym