Talk:List of defunct and relocated National Hockey League teams

message: I think this page would serve better as a repository for keeping track of _all_ organizational changes in the NHL.
They key expansion I have in mind is to incorporate team name changes more explicitly as entries here.
In fact there's already almost complete overlap with this page: 
(the key difference being one's in expository format, this one is in table format).
I don't see the point of keeping the information stored separately, given the extensive overlap.
--Michael Chirico, too lazy to sign in.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.249.179.85 (talk) 04:40, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with History of Organizational Changes?

message: Why the Jets and Nord do not go on this page the teams still exist they moved Jets to Phoenix Nords to Colorado they are relocated not defunct Smith03 23:27, 1 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: It looks like all of the teams that have moved or folded are included on the map on the bottom of the page...except for the Minnesota North Stars. Is there a reason for this, or was it just an oversight? Etphonehome (talk) 08:20, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed image to accommodate this. I also include the Brooklyn Americans. --K.Annoyomous (talk) 19:02, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Okie Dokie. GoodDay (talk) 19:03, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to Map 

message: They went through 3 names. Along with California Golden Seals & Oakland Seals, they were the California Seals. GoodDay (talk) 16:03, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed image to accommodate this. I also include the Brooklyn Americans. --K.Annoyomous (talk) 19:02, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Okie Dokie. GoodDay (talk) 19:03, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Seals 

message: Perhaps the Winnipeg Jets label on the map can now be changed to Winnipeg Jets (original), to match how Ottawa is labelled.  rkehler3 (talk) 17:03, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Winnipeg Jets

message: The Thrashers haven't been moved to Winnipeg & won't be, until a 2/3 majority vote in that favour, by the NHL Board of Governors. GoodDay (talk) 20:52, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, I believe that True North, the group attempting to buy the Thrashers, has a condition that a certain number of season tickets have to be purchased by Winnipeg residents before the sale closes.  OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 05:34, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The Thrashers have now moved and there is a Wikipedia page for the as of yet, unnamed Winnipeg NHL Team. Semi-Lobster (talk) 19:58, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, the move is not official until the league meets to vote on June 21. The new page is a placeholder in the interim. (As for the tickets, I think that it was a "strong suggestion" as opposed to a legal condition.) --Ckatzchatspy 20:02, 31 May 2011 (UTC)

text: I've restored the material. Simply put, it is referenced, non-speculative (as it clearly states the pending nature of the deal) and avoids repeated changes to the page. It was speculative up until Gary Bettman took the podium, but now is noteworthy here. --Ckatzchatspy 20:44, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO, I believe that information about future relocations shouldn't be included in a list article listing the current defunct and relocated teams. That information should be included in Potential NHL expansion, not here. --K.Annoyomous (talk) 20:47, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The vote is only three weeks away; furthermore, I don't see how the move to Winnipeg fits under the heading of "expansion". --Ckatzchatspy 20:49, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and it is not a crystal ball.  Yes, it's probable that the NHL will approve the move.  But, as with most purchase agreements, there are contingencies, some of which may fail to occur, killing the deal.  Or the NHL, after investigating the True North management group, find out that they're funded by aliens from Alpha Centauri.  That would be cool, but probably would kill the deal.  We have seen deals fall apart before.  OrangeMarlin Talk• Contributions 23:13, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, hey, I agree with you about WP:CRYSTAL. It's not really much different from what we do with respect to TV shows and the number of episodes aired. That's why I think the current language - which outlines it as pending - is appropriate. It definitely shouldn't be written as a done deal, but similarly it should be acknowledged here as it is a reality (as opposed to the conjecture from even a few days ago). --Ckatzchatspy 01:37, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Atlanta Thrashers 

message: Any thoughts on the utility of the timeline graph (List of defunct and relocated National Hockey League teams#Timeline) using a white gap to denote the 2004-05 lockout/cancellation?  The individual franchise office locations, non-playing staff, merchandising, and such continued throughout.  So the franchise existed in those markets during the gap.  The current treament opens a (tiny) unanswered question for the casual viewer if any teams relocated prior to the unplayed 2004-05 season and had to wait a year to play any games.
Also, the graph currently has "Mighty Ducks of Anaheim" ending in 2003-2004 (before the lockout white gap) and "Anaheim Ducks" beginning in 2005-06 (just after the gap). The Ducks rebranding was done prior to the 2006–07 season, so the visualization appears to be off by a year.  I defer to actual subject matter experts to verify and determine if there are similar issues for other teams. UW Dawgs (talk) 02:31, 28 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  lockout gap and Ducks timeline 

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message: The Victoria Cougars were moved to Detroit in 1926 by Lester Patrick. Please add to this site. 2001:569:6FF6:2459:D1A:2027:410A:9301 (talk) 01:35, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: They weren't "relocated" - Detroit received an expansion franchise, and purchased players from Victoria to stock that franchise. Echoedmyron (talk) 10:36, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Detroit RedWings 

message: It might be worthwhile to differentiate "City would later receive a new franchise (now defunct)" from "City would later receive a new franchise (still active)". --Fru1tbat (talk) 14:15, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differentiate highlighting in first table column? 

message: The comment that only two teams have retained the nickname and history of the original franchise is incorrect. Calgary retained the name "Flames" from the Atlanta franchise, obviously since "Flames" makes no sense as related to Calgary, but does for Atlanta. 2403:4800:9428:1101:D948:8EBC:2226:32F4 (talk) 07:25, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relocated Franchise History 

message: Do we mention them at all? Technically they're just inactive - but functionally, they moved. Pinging IceBergYYC and Sbaio. LilianaUwU (talk / contributions) 05:22, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Which part specifically? Because I once again need to remind that this is not a relocation per official sources. – sbaio 05:43, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

text: I think they have a place on this list. While the franchise itself is neither defunct (yet) nor has it been relocated for functional purposes the TEAM has been relocated. As long as this page clarifies that it is only the hockey assets that have moved I think it's a fair inclusion. I'm a firm believer that the point here is to follow the spirit not the letter. IceBergYYC (talk) 05:51, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Yes, list them defunct is exactly what they are: they are not an actual, active team. ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 21:10, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  So, the Coyotes.