Talk:Altrincham/Archive 1

message: :The town is home to more millionaires than any other area outside of London.
Really?  I know Altrincham is well-known for its large number of well-off residents, could someone verify this claim?  I'll have to remove it otherwise.  --RFBailey 14:02, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, so somebody else has removed it.  Fair enough.  --RFBailey 09:55, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Millionaires 

message: I couldn't find any reference (in Google) to the people named either as opera singers or to do with Altrincham, so I've taken them out.  I'm not sure what the "head of beef" business was about either, so that had to go as well.  --RFBailey 08:54, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explosion of opera singers 

message: Am I right in thinking Altrincham has never been a city? This may sound a silly question, but I just want to be sure. --62.255.236.179 10:49, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you are certainly correct in thinking that.
Chris From Sale 18:23, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status 

message: I took on board some of the comments about this page not being as good as some of the others from Manchester, so added the following sections:
1) famous people, which included Paul Young, who lived on the road around the corner from me before he died.
2) education with links to official websites - schools and ofsted reports
3) a picture of the clock tower in altrincham that i took
4) an entry on stamford park with a link to it's website
I only created these entries this afternoon and they've all been removed.  I'm new to all this and don't understand why they were removed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kieransampson (talk • contribs) 23:33, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confused 

message: ===Introduction===
Needs draftingCosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This section has been edited without any discussion or explanation in this section.  Please explain otherwise I will reinstate the original text.  Please try and remember to (1) reference only current arrangement unless you are writing about history - which should only go in the civic history section (2) to draw a distinction between Altrincham the area and Altrincham the town when referring to other neighbouring settlements eg Bowdon, Hale, Timperley etc. See Trafford MBC narrative re the Altrincham area Neighbouring settlements mentioned as being part of Altrincham have their own unique page within Wikipedia and this should be recognised on this page - and was until the references were deleted.  These will be reinstated unless explanation is forthcoming as to reasons for their deletion  Cosmopolitancats 00:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggested improvements: 4 Feb 2007

message: Needs draftingCosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Introduction

message: We need to be careful here as it's easy to misrepresent.  This can all be cited so use appropriate references. If nobody else wants to have a go, I'll do a draft and include here firstCosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This section has been edited without any discussion or explanation in this section.  Please explain otherwise I will reinstate the original text.  Please try and remember to (1) reference only current arrangement unless you are writing about history - which should only go in the civic history section (2) to draw a distinction between Altrincham the area and Altrincham the town when referring to other neighbouring settlements eg Bowdon, Hale, Timperley etc. See Trafford MBC narrative re the Altrincham area Neighbouring settlements mentioned as being part of Altrincham have their own unique page within Wikipedia and this should be recognised on this page - and was until the references were deleted.  These will be reinstated unless explanation is forthcoming as to reasons for their deletion  Cosmopolitancats 00:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Divisions and suburbs

message: Included a reference to the very detailed history of Altrincham on the Altrincham History Society website Cosmopolitancats 00:11, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: Can this stand or could it be better?Cosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Parliamentary Representation

message: Nothing exists at present - needs to be draftedCosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Physical Geography/Geology

message: Happy with the explanation of the source of the name?  Do we have a citation? Cosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology

message: What more can we say here?  Any good sources? What about the Local History Society and the National Register of Archives? Cosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Early History

message: What more can we say here?  Any good sources? What about the Local History Society and the National Register of Archives? How about a reference to the development of the town as a result of the railway and the impact of industrial expansion of Manchester? Cosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent History

message: Now includes info from section on transport which is historicalCosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Transport History

message: What do people think about about the inclusion of the old Station Clock in this section? Cosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Landmarks

message: More info required.  Guidance indicates this should include total population figures, population change, age structure, ethnicity, religion, etc etc.Cosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Demographics

message: Guidance indicates this should include major industries and employers and, where available, statistics such as GDP and unemploymentCosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Economics

message: Guidance states..........This section should be used to write about the settlement as it exists today, and should be distinguished from that of the History section. It should serve to sum up the area/settlement today, perhaps to highlight any contrasts with the past, including the settlement's current use/significance, types of housing, any notable controversies, redevelopment, major employers (if not already mentioned in the Economics section. Suitable sub-sections can include:
    * Communal facilities - Such as libraries, parks, sports venues etc.
    * Transport - Main centres and modes/means of transport of the settlement today (this may require it's own section).
    * Education - Indicating local schools, colleges, and universitys (if appropriate) etc.
    * Industry and/or /Retail/Commerce - This section may not be required if an economics section is in place.
    * Sport - Including sporting venues, local (notable) teams and relevancies.Cosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Present Day

message: This is an 'Altrincham special' heading
I've reverted the edit which took out all reference to the Revised Unitary Development Plan.  The previous edit could have left the text in even if it took out the link which didn't work as Unitary Development Plans are mandatory for all local authorities and is hardly open to dispute - even if the general public are not always aware of them.  In future please notify original author that link is not working and give them time to fix it. Cosmopolitancats 01:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Current redevlopment

message: Ive included refererence to the local hospital and library.Cosmopolitancats 11:58, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Communal facilities

message: Already got a section but it contains history - so I've moved the historical bits to the history section.Cosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Transport

message: It's got a section - does this need to be expanded and/or need any further citation? Cosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Education

message: I've left this out as I've included an ecnomics section - but it could be inserted here.Cosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Industry

message: Examples of sport already included - needs expanding?Cosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sport

message: Include the Garrick Theatre and local newspapers?  Does the sub-heading need changing?Cosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Local culture, arts and media

message: section already included,  Can it be improved?Cosmopolitancats 09:47, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Local notables

message: Should Dunham Massey be mentioned here?  It's actually in Bowdon which has its own wikipedia page.Cosmopolitancats 02:03, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Local Places of Interest

message: Created new section for local history in the sense of records.  This includes a reference to the Altrincham History Society and their tour of histoical 'hot spots' in Altrincham http://althistsoc.users.btopenworld.com/tour.htmlCosmopolitancats 11:27, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Local History Records

message: Some people seem to have an obscession with removing the 'UK' from the location of Altrincham. The UK is the sovereign nation to which Altrincham belongs to. England is not a sovereign country. It is like putting an American town with it's state but not actually saying that it's in America. RRJ 16:50, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Using England and not UK is currently the consensus-approved way of locating UK places in article intros, per this discussion from WP:UKGEO.  I agree it has its flaws, but I'd recommend not edit warring over it.  UK is usually added in sprees by anons, and removed similarly; it's a bit lame, I think. — mholland 22:19, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  'UK' in introduction