Talk:John Russell, 1st Earl Russell

message: how are protectionist import tariffs to be seen as laisse-faire policies? Intangible 20:01, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  laissez faire policies 

message: I think people (Irish people, particularly) might reasonably disagree with the statement "Russell was a statesman".  I'll change it to "politican". Thisrod 01:21, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is "statesman" encyclopaedic language? 

message: Oh dear, what a negative view of Lord John Russell. True, he was guilty over the potato famine, but what about his good deeds: "During this first premiership (1846-1852), he helped pass legislation limiting working hours in factories in the 1847 Factory Act and was responsible for the passing of the Public Health Act of 1848. This ministry also ended restrictions on colonial trade by repealing the Navigation Acts in 1849."
http://www.dialspace.dial.pipex.com/town/terrace/adw03/pms/russell.htm
Ogg 10:39, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factory act 

message: As leader of the opposition party in the Commons, was Russell not approached to form a government on the resignation of Lord Derby's government in December 1852? It would appear from the article on Lord Lansdowne, the Leader in the Lords, that he (Lansdowne) was offered the premiership. What prevented Russell from forming a government? Palmerston's refusal to serve under him? Presumably the DNB would say. Opera hat (talk) 23:06, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The old version doesn't; I've still to check the 2004 edition. Opera hat (talk) 13:42, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "At the general election held in July 1852 he came second in the poll for the City of London. With Palmerston refusing ever to serve under Lord John again, the whigs devised a plan for union under Lord Lansdowne, as prime minister. In December, when Lansdowne declined the role assigned to him, Lord John was manoeuvred by his brother into agreeing to serve under Lord Aberdeen."  Opera hat (talk) 13:10, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  December 1852 

message: In 1819 Lord John Russell published his book "Life of Lord Russell" about his famous ancestor.  ->Which one, Bedford or...?Kdammers (talk) 06:11, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: About whom?

message: On pages 235-6 of the Bobbs-Merrill edition of Melbourne, in the chapter "After Reform", the author refers to Lord John Russell as the Privy Seal.  I see no mention of this in the article, and he is not listed in the Wikipedia "Lord Privy Seal" page.  Since Melbourne is one of the finest and best well-researched biographies to have been written, and which made the Modern Library's best 100 nonfiction list, then I think that this may be an oversight on the part of Wikipedia editors.bruvensky (talk) 04:59, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lord John Russel, Privy Seal? 

message: When was the occasion when Disraeli mocked his tiny stature by likening the Whigs to the Ancient Egyptians "worshipping an insect"?Paulturtle (talk) 11:05, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: In The Letters of Runnymede.  Opera hat (talk) 13:04, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Worshipping an Insect 

message: But there's no heading for being Prime Minister the first time.  I came to this article to find out when that was ... but with no success. :=) Ttocserp 11:01, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: "Prime Minister again"

message: The article doesn't mention where he was MP of. Here is a list:
* Tavistock 4 May 1813 – 28 February 1817
* Tavistock 1818 – 1820
* Huntingdonshire 1820 – 1826
* Bandon Bridge 19 December 1826 – 1830
* Tavistock 27 November 1830 – 1831
* Devon 1831 – 1832
* South Devon 1832 – April 1835
* South Devon 19 May 1835 – 1841
* City of London 1841 – July 1861
Hairy Dude (talk) 21:42, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constituencies 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Although it appears yhe First Russell Ministry was the last ministry ever composed entirely by the Whig Party, the First Palmerston Ministry was majority-Whig throughout its existence, so the “last ministry” claim in the lede is a little misleading.  Was that a mistake on Taylor's part, or is it a mistake on our end? Esszet (talk) 17:24, 17 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: There's an argument made that the Palmerston government was something of a "personalist" ministry, drawing more on individuals and the remains of the Aberdeen coalition (including some Peelites in as far as the distinction can be made) than being a straight party government, with the leading Whig (Russell) leaving very early on. Timrollpickering (Talk) 21:48, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry for the extremely late response, I thought I checked within a few days of posting this.  In that case, the lede should be edited to say that the Whig Party would go on to be the senior partner (although I don't know if that term was in use back then) in one final government, which even then is often considered more personalist than party-driven.  I'm guessing that would require a different source? Esszet (talk) 16:36, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final Whig Ministry?