Template talk:Canada elections

message: I think the idea was for this template to be moved to the bottom of articles so that both this and  could be used on those articles where appropriate, i.e. Canadian House of Commons.  Should we revert to the wide format for use at the bottom of pages? - Jord 16:19, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

message: ===Original===
For quite a while we were using this...
Elections in Canada	
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===Circeus' version===
Circeus changed it to this in order to reduce the height of the table, on my 1024 wide screen, it caused some ugly line wraps with one election on a line of its own...
Elections in Canada                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     	
Federal elections (Summary)1867 | 1872 | 1874 | 1878 | 1882 | 1887 | 1891 | 1896 | 1900 | 1904 | 1908 | 1911 | 1917 | 1921 | 1925 | 1926 | 1930 | 1935 | 1940 | 1945  1949 | 1953 | 1957 | 1958 | 1962 | 1963 | 1965 | 1968 | 1972 | 1974 | 1979 | 1980 | 1984 | 1988 | 1993 | 1997 | 2000 | 2004 | 2006 | 40th (future)	Federal elections (Summary)1867 | 1872 | 1874 | 1878 | 1882 | 1887 | 1891 | 1896 | 1900 | 1904 | 1908 | 1911 | 1917 | 1921 | 1925 | 1926 | 1930 | 1935 | 1940 | 1945  1949 | 1953 | 1957 | 1958 | 1962 | 1963 | 1965 | 1968 | 1972 | 1974 | 1979 | 1980 | 1984 | 1988 | 1993 | 1997 | 2000 | 2004 | 2006 | 40th (future)
Federal parliaments (Summary)1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th | 7th | 8th | 9th | 10th | 11th | 12th | 13th | 14th | 15th | 16th | 17th | 18th | 19th | 20th  21st | 22nd | 23rd | 24th | 25th | 26th | 27th | 28th | 29th | 30th | 31st | 32nd |  33rd | 34th | 35th | 36th |  37th | 38th | 39th                     	Federal parliaments (Summary)1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th | 7th | 8th | 9th | 10th | 11th | 12th | 13th | 14th | 15th | 16th | 17th | 18th | 19th | 20th  21st | 22nd | 23rd | 24th | 25th | 26th | 27th | 28th | 29th | 30th | 31st | 32nd |  33rd | 34th | 35th | 36th |  37th | 38th | 39th
Federal political parties | Federal electoral districts                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 	Federal political parties | Federal electoral districts
===Jord's version===
I, Jord, changed it to this rather different format in order to reduce the height and size without the risk of ugly line wraps...
Elections in Canada                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                	
Federal elections (Summary)1800s: '67 | '72 | '74 | '78 | '82 | '87 | '91 | '96 — 1900s: '00 | '04 | '08 | '11 | '17 | '21 | '25 | '26 | '30 | '35 | '40 | '45 | '49 | '53 | '57 | '58 | '62 | '63 | '65 | '68 | '72 | '74 | '79 | '80 | '84 | '88 | '93 | '97 — 2000s: '00 | '04 | '06 | next (future)	Federal elections (Summary)1800s: '67 | '72 | '74 | '78 | '82 | '87 | '91 | '96 — 1900s: '00 | '04 | '08 | '11 | '17 | '21 | '25 | '26 | '30 | '35 | '40 | '45 | '49 | '53 | '57 | '58 | '62 | '63 | '65 | '68 | '72 | '74 | '79 | '80 | '84 | '88 | '93 | '97 — 2000s: '00 | '04 | '06 | next (future)
Federal parliaments (Summary)1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th | 7th | 8th | 9th | 10th | 11th | 12th | 13th | 14th | 15th | 16th | 17th | 18th | 19th | 20th  21st | 22nd | 23rd | 24th | 25th | 26th | 27th | 28th | 29th | 30th | 31st | 32nd |  33rd | 34th | 35th | 36th |  37th | 38th | 39th                	Federal parliaments (Summary)1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th | 7th | 8th | 9th | 10th | 11th | 12th | 13th | 14th | 15th | 16th | 17th | 18th | 19th | 20th  21st | 22nd | 23rd | 24th | 25th | 26th | 27th | 28th | 29th | 30th | 31st | 32nd |  33rd | 34th | 35th | 36th |  37th | 38th | 39th
Federal political parties | Federal electoral districts                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            	Federal political parties | Federal electoral districts
===Arctic.gnome's version===
Arctic.gnome's version replaced the —'s of Jord's with hard returns () but this returns us to the problem of an ugly line warp for the 1900s elections...
Elections in Canada                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                	
Federal elections (Summary)1800s: '67 | '72 | '74 | '78 | '82 | '87 | '91 | '961900s: '00 | '04 | '08 | '11 | '17 | '21 | '25 | '26 | '30 | '35 | '40 | '45 | '49 | '53 | '57 | '58 | '62 | '63 | '65 | '68 | '72 | '74 | '79 | '80 | '84 | '88 | '93 | '972000s: '00 | '04 | '06 | next           	Federal elections (Summary)1800s: '67 | '72 | '74 | '78 | '82 | '87 | '91 | '961900s: '00 | '04 | '08 | '11 | '17 | '21 | '25 | '26 | '30 | '35 | '40 | '45 | '49 | '53 | '57 | '58 | '62 | '63 | '65 | '68 | '72 | '74 | '79 | '80 | '84 | '88 | '93 | '972000s: '00 | '04 | '06 | next
Federal parliaments (Summary)1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th | 7th | 8th | 9th | 10th | 11th | 12th | 13th | 14th | 15th | 16th | 17th | 18th | 19th | 20th  21st | 22nd | 23rd | 24th | 25th | 26th | 27th | 28th | 29th | 30th | 31st | 32nd |  33rd | 34th | 35th | 36th |  37th | 38th | 39th	Federal parliaments (Summary)1st | 2nd | 3rd | 4th | 5th | 6th | 7th | 8th | 9th | 10th | 11th | 12th | 13th | 14th | 15th | 16th | 17th | 18th | 19th | 20th  21st | 22nd | 23rd | 24th | 25th | 26th | 27th | 28th | 29th | 30th | 31st | 32nd |  33rd | 34th | 35th | 36th |  37th | 38th | 39th
Federal political parties | Federal electoral districts                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            	Federal political parties | Federal electoral districts
===Solution===
I, not surprisingly, think that my version works best but am open to suggestions, I think we should be avoiding the ugly line wrap as the first priority, hence I prefer the original as a second choice to mine. - Jord 00:51, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that we don't want ugly line wraps.  I guess I should test templates on different screen sizes before saving them.  I just thought it looked a bit weird to have the "1900s:" label in the middle of a line and (on my display) the "2000s:" label as the very last item on the top line.  The original version would not have caused that problem, and it had the advantage of making it easier to find the corresponding parliament to a given election and vice-versa, although it is a bit too tall.  I should also point out that if the elections were wrapping around on your display in the Circeus version, it would probably do the same thing in the parliaments in your version once the 40th is added.  -arctic gnome 01:12, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

text: We had what you propose for a while (see above) but it created line wraps which made it look really unprofessional.  Maybe I am not totally sure what you have in mind? - Jord 00:46, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'd compromise between the "Original" and "Circeus" versions. Three lines of 15 four-digit dates each. I can figure out how to do that, but what I couldn't work out is how to left-justify the 3rd line so it doesn't look weird when lined up against the other 2. I have changed the template so you can see what I mean... ideally the 3rd line would be flush left with the first two but I don't know enough html to do this. Of course the list of parliaments also looks weird because the top row of 1-digit numbers (1st - 15th) occupies less space than the second. Caradhras 02:00, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formats 

message: I, not surprisingly, think that my version works best but am open to suggestions, I think we should be avoiding the ugly line wrap as the first priority, hence I prefer the original as a second choice to mine. - Jord 00:51, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that we don't want ugly line wraps.  I guess I should test templates on different screen sizes before saving them.  I just thought it looked a bit weird to have the "1900s:" label in the middle of a line and (on my display) the "2000s:" label as the very last item on the top line.  The original version would not have caused that problem, and it had the advantage of making it easier to find the corresponding parliament to a given election and vice-versa, although it is a bit too tall.  I should also point out that if the elections were wrapping around on your display in the Circeus version, it would probably do the same thing in the parliaments in your version once the 40th is added.  -arctic gnome 01:12, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Solution

message: I strongly dislike the partial dates ('79, '80). They are crammed in too tightly and are difficult to distinguish at a glance. They look informal and unprofessional. The original model and Circeus' were both clean and simple. Subsequent modifications have added visual distraction and clutter (bold text, dashes, and abbreviations) that harms legibility.
If I knew how, I would change the template to a compromise between the original above and Circeus' format, with three lines of election dates written in full four-digit form. Caradhras 23:57, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We had what you propose for a while (see above) but it created line wraps which made it look really unprofessional.  Maybe I am not totally sure what you have in mind? - Jord 00:46, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'd compromise between the "Original" and "Circeus" versions. Three lines of 15 four-digit dates each. I can figure out how to do that, but what I couldn't work out is how to left-justify the 3rd line so it doesn't look weird when lined up against the other 2. I have changed the template so you can see what I mean... ideally the 3rd line would be flush left with the first two but I don't know enough html to do this. Of course the list of parliaments also looks weird because the top row of 1-digit numbers (1st - 15th) occupies less space than the second. Caradhras 02:00, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Date abbreviations

message: I am being bold here, after discussion at []. Including the Parliaments of Canada template in this template has the result that all of the parliaments of Canada appear at the bottom of each election article, e.g., Canadian federal election, 1993, even though only one parliament is relevant to the article. That parliament can be included in the article and/or in the "see also" list. Ground Zero | t 04:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: trimming the template