Talk:Traitorous eight

message: I always heard this group referred to as the "Fairchildren", an obviously more positive name.  There seems no middle ground, and I do not know the attribution of either term.  How to resolve this? - Gnetwerker 08:03, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Shockley called them the traitorours eight; as far as the other terms, you'd have to dig. Raul654 12:53, 10 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Fairchildren refers to the spinoff companies from Fairchild, not the men who founded Fairchild. Google "fairchildren" and the results are pretty consistent. JoelWest 22:25, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Even worse, it doesn't appear to exist. A search on http://ieeexplore.ieee.org of the 23 articles in IEEE Spectrum that mention "Shockley" shows nothing of the sort. JoelWest 22:25, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree with Oop that the King Arthur comparison is unencyclopedic and/or POV, so I have removed it. I have also modified that paragraph slightly to make it clear that the opinions certain authors have about Shockley are just that: opinions of certain authors. People have very subjective opinions of each other, so let's try to keep it to objective facts whenever possible. Thank you for the reference, Gnetwerker. -kotra 23:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

text: It's a historical name and history may not always agree with your PC views. Wikipedia is not censored. Taza insane (talk) 20:24, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fairchildren

message: I merged Fairchildren into this article as there is no need for two identical articles on the subject.  Obviously, a decision needs to be made to use the current title or not per the above discussion. Viriditas (talk) 08:21, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: The name is normally capitalized in both Google news archive and Google book search results.  The first sentence mentions other neutral names, and capitalized them.  So I see no reason why this name wouldn't be capitalized.  Dream Focus 21:01, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Book evidence shows that it is far from being consistently capitalized in good sources.  We should stick with lowercase per MOS:CAPS.  The other terms incorporate proper names, so those words (but not "eight") are capitalized for that reason.  Dicklyon (talk) 21:23, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That doesn't really show anything other than both are used, sometimes one more than others, it changing year by year.  Can you compare news sources?  See proper noun#Proper nouns and proper names.  It is referring to a proper name so it should be capitalized.  I'd like some more opinions on this.  Dream Focus 21:45, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: MOS:CAPS says the threshold is "consistently capitalized in sources".  I see no logic for concluding that it's a "proper name" otherwise.  But yes, more opinions would be great.  Dicklyon (talk) 03:22, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalized 

message: It would be a nice addition to have a section outlining the spin-off genealogy and the diffusion of this group's influence among the various Fairchildren. — MaxEnt 11:45, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genealogy 

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