Talk:Chumby

message: The Chumby has been praised by some as open source hardware which is designed to be customizable by users,[1] while others have criticized it as "goofy" and unnecessary.[2]
This misrepresents the Lyons article, which opens by hypothetically stating that the Chumby is goofy and unnecessary, but doesn't literally suggest this as fact (a little like if I said that my car is "an old jalopy"---I don't literally mean that it's an old, run-down car; what I say is actually a term of endearment). 
The Lyons article is very much for "ambient" devices such as the Chumby, and the Chumby is only really a sidenote in the article anyway. I suggest this misstatement is removed because it's misleading. ~~  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.113.204 (talk) 08:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Misrepresentation of the facts

message: I'm deleting the "this article was nominated for deletion" since I don't see any explanation. --Treekids (talk) 01:16, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion

message: Why broken link to image? --x1987x(talk) 02:54, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The image was deleted for having a lack of licensing information. I'll remove the link to it. Angela. 16:16, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Why is the image missing?

message: Any chumby owners out there- care to upload a photo?  We need one that's properly licensed for wikipedia to use. --Treekids (talk) 01:18, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need an photo 

message: What company? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.252.175.189 (talk) 08:04, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Chumby is described by the company" 

message: The content in this article is out of date...  They changed to running Flash Lite 3.0 (instead of 2.0); and the ambient light sensor was scrapped completely - production builds will come with a microphone instead.  
Sources for Chumby info include:
http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/06/23/chumby-one-year-later/
http://chumby.wordpress.com/
http://www.chumby.com/
65.93.149.194 01:15, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Out of Date

message: I found this article to be written in a form similar to an advertisement, therefore I have reduced the amount of technical jargon as well as product names and trademarks that were sprinkled throughout. The reader is left to follow the references at the bottom of the article for more technical information.  Although not perfect, the article has a much more NPOV. 1st person pronouns were also deleted.
SimonHarvey 09:44, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Would anybody object object in me now removing the spam header? SimonHarvey 09:30, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Spam tag removed. SimonHarvey 22:14, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Toned down the Jargon

message: "...a 320×240 3.5 inch touchscreen TFT LCD running at 12Hz..."
I don't have time to look it up, but there is no way that the LCD runs at 12HZ 74.129.173.244 03:59, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone apparently made an assumption that fps=Hz, which is incorrect.  The video display runs at 12fps, but it's a 50/60Hz device just like anything else, depending on which part of the world it's built for.  I'm actually not even sure there are 50Hz Chumbys, since I'm in the U.S. MaxVolume (talk) 19:12, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Incorrect Specs?

message: A game-studies professor recently noticed that if you develop 3rd-party apps for the Chumby, they automatically own your code (there's an exception for GPL'd apps). That's a bit different from the portrayal on this page, which makes it seem like it's friendly to 3rd-party commercial developers. --Delirium 20:46, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, though a Chumby rep. responded there that that wasn't their intention. I guess might as well leave out of this article until something more firm comes up. --Delirium 22:47, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  licensing 

message: I have removed the price data from this as it is not appropriate in Wikipedia as well as other salesman like text. SimonHarvey (talk) 20:09, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like to remove the spam header. The article is still rather marginal (especially the links at the bottom) however the credit card and pricing information has been removed and it reads much less like an advertisment. SimonHarvey (talk) 20:35, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  Doing so. --Treekids (talk) 01:14, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Price Data 

message: So how does it update? using the modified bit torrent or from a direct connection to the chumby website?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by SimonHarvey (talk • contribs) 09:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updating 

message: Thank you Kushal 02:31, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've uploaded an image of my Chumby and attached it to the article. I've also uploaded an image of my Chumby disassembled, but I have not attached it. Since one of the selling points of the Chumby is the hackability, I thought it might be interesting to see the insides. If anyone wants to attach it to the article, it is located at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Naked-chumby.jpg. Yngvarr (c) 21:26, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo request 

message: I've read some conflicting reports on various reviews of the Chumby saying that it periodically streams ads and there's no way to turn that off. Can someone with a Chumby please clarify this and add the information to the article? Thanks! Luvcraft (talk) 16:36, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  forced advertising? 

message: MAKE’s Exclusive Interview with Andrew (bunnie) Huang – The End of Chumby, New Adventures: [ http://blog.makezine.com/2012/04/30/makes-exclusive-interview-with-andrew-bunnie-huang-the-end-of-chumby-new-adventures/ ] --Guy Macon (talk) 10:44, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  MAKE: The End of Chumby 

message: I looked into the open hardware claims and discovered that the HDK license prohibits (or, to be more accurate, doesn't allow) manufacturing and selling of Chumby devices. I've listed the relevant parts below.
*In section 1. Introduction: "This Agreement is not a license to use chumby's brand or to manufacture and sell chumby Devices."
*In section 3.3 Certain Limitations and Licensee Obligations: "(a)[..]Except as licensed in this Agreement, you agree not to, directly or indirectly, exercise any other rights in the chumby HDK, sublicense your rights under this Agreement, or make, have made, import, or sell chumby Devices."
Even though the article has at least 2 sources (namely Linuxfordevices.com and The New York Times) that claim the device to be open hardware, I propose the claims to be removed from the article. I believe it's obvious that while these articles mention "open hardware" they refer to the relatively uncommon availability of design documents for the device which, by today's standards, isn't the same as the hardware being open in the FOSS manner (the definition of open-source hardware as per the Wikipedia entry for Open-source hardware). Furthermore, Chumby Industries, Inc. themselves never claimed the hardware to be open-source, merely open and hackable (see Media factsheet).
If there's no opposition I'll be removing the open hardware claims and possibly replacing them with references to the availability of design documents and the device's intended hackability. --Veikk0.ma 17:20, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not open hardware