Talk:Kanthapuram A. P. Aboobacker Musliyar

message: Sheik Kanthapuram A.P.Aboobacker Musliar Bin Ahmed  islamic scholar in India and abroad. He is the first kerala muslim scholar who supported communism, His vew comes true for other some leaders after many years. That reveals his forcast about all things related to Humanity especially to Sunni Muslims—Preceding unsigned comment added by  (talk • contribs) 
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Please provide solid facts in which way, Kanthapuram has brought renaissance among Sunni Muslims. The above comment in the talk page itself is very cryptic. Forecasts about humanity -? what way?
Zencv (talk) 09:38, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: , your content is WP:Editorializing and unsourced. Therefore, you should not be adding it. Do review the WP:Verifiability policy. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 00:01, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Facts

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: Isn't it a very famous allegation? How come it's not mentioned here? I can provide citations. Mehfoos (talk) 06:11, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allegations of linkage with Chekannur Maulavi's murder 

message: Kanthapuram is 'famous' for making highly conservative remarks about women,like women shouldn't travel. In one instance, a group of Muslim women even burnt his effigy .. I dont think wiki page is reflecting all of this .. 
GreenOrca (talk) 17:55, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a source for that burning in effigy? We'll need reliable sources to add such content. Huon (talk) 19:17, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments against women and NPOV check

message: This article has been subjected to several acts of whitewashing/vandalism. Controversial remarks by him was added with many references, however the references and the section has been removed. This has happened multiple times. Please do not allow deletion of references. 
GreenOrca (talk) 07:36, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Whitewashing/ Vandalism 

message: Hi, Admins please block these users from editing this page
User:Nashar.Elaf, User:Vasikhali
- WikiRescuer (talk) 03:33, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please block the content killers 

message: Now i am cleanup the page, i hope that you will continue to favor us with your support • ArtsRescuer 19:25, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Please cite your source. Wikipedia only reports what has been already reported. And STOP your legal threats. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 05:57, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

text: You have not provided citations. In Wikipedia it all boils down to citations. The material I added had citations. If you cannot provide citations, please do not remove it from the article. If you edit war, you will be blocked from editing. --Lemongirl942 (talk) 07:31, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Notice

message: I have removed the excessive photo gallery because it was disproportionate to the size and importance of the article; there were copyright issues with the photos; and there were already three decent photos, which is ample. George Custer's Sabre 06:05, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very excessive photo gallery 

message: Ap Aboobacker Musliar is not a Grand Mufti of India , Kindly update this --Midhlajc17 (talk) 07:18, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Þjarkur (talk) 10:00, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 May 2019 

message: My suggestion would be to edit this at the very least so that it says Aboobacker is the Grand Mufti for his followers or Shafi‘i Muslims and a mention of the Grand Mufti controversy in the main article (see my edit that was reverted by another editor). SunniObserver786 (talk) 23:07, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: On the face of it, this makes sense. If there are rival claims, as seems clear and is discussed in this source, all the relevant articles should reflect that. It is problematic that there are so many different users with an apparent conflict of interest, who don't seem interested in discussing the subject and try to use Wikipedia to promote their own version of what is true. --bonadea contributions talk 06:54, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  If you  from one page to another, never copy the  parameter since this must be unique, and should only be assigned by . You have used the same number that was assigned to the RfC at the location that you copied it from, Talk:Grand Mufti of India#Request for comment - Grand Mufti Controversy, and so the RfC listings have become corrupted as a result. I have reset the rfcid in an attempt to trigger Legobot into sorting out the mess. My comments in that RfC hold here as well: it is not a valid WP:RFC but your own opinion; it is neither neutral nor brief. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 22:22, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for comment - Grand Mufti Controversy

message: I have reverted the page move. Based on a quick search, it seems most newspapers refer to him as Kanthapuram A. P. Aboobacker Musliyar instead of Sheikh Abubakr Ahmad , , . I recommend starting a page move discussion here to get consensus or maybe an RFC.--DreamLinker (talk) 12:45, 13 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move to new name 

message: ? Doug Weller talk 11:26, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Ideally it should match the title, as Kanthapuram A. P. Aboobacker Musliyar is the common name. I guess some of the contributors have changed the content to use the honorific name.--DreamLinker (talk) 18:19, 11 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why doesn't the lead match the title? 

message: Fatwa of Sheikh Abubakr Ahmad on ISIS has no notability itself. It may merged to this page.--Irshadpp (talk) 13:13, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , I agree with the fact. Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 19:30, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

text: NeutralWeak oppose merge:Neutral: If no objections, if any objections should goto WP:RFCL for close request as might be controversial.  It hasn't been 100% obvious to find this discussion but have added discuss= parameter to the page merge templates which should help.  If the merge occurs I would hope to see a merge of substance (not a redirect) with proper attributions per WP:MERGETEXT.  I have not examined the notability of merge source article. Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 23:01, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: * I note what I see is a good faith !vote not to merge below and while I choose to remain neutral I am very tempted to oppose the merge.  I now believe this will need to go to a neutral or WP:RFCL to close for merge; and in that case the redirect should include :Template:R with possibilities, R printworth and R from merge.Djm-leighpark (talk) 07:20, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: * Nom has contacted me for advice and I have decided to move to weak oppose as I am increasingly concerned a quality merge would be achieved.  Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 07:44, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: * Moved my vote to Neutral to be clear that I do not oppose a quality merge and noting  below is a sort of specialises in merges rather than having any particualr bias as to the subject of the article as far as I am aware.  If anyone is doing a merge can they please ensure the date of the fatwa is noted and be are of the various aliases of the subject to ensure content is readily understandable to a neutral not versed in the subject and makes not assumptions about their background knowledge.  Thankyou. (PS: My previous sentence makes no sense even to me who wrote it ... probably missed a "not"). Djm-leighpark (talk) 06:46, 6 January 2021 (UTC)

text: , This is the first fatwa against the ISIS. ❁ᴀᴜᴛʜᴏʀ❁ (❁ᴅᴏᴍ❁) 02:17, 5 April 2020 (UTC)

text: , I am seeing nothing better in the article proposed to be merged with this. We have completely lost this merge discussion. - Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 23:29, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Support merge on the grounds of overlap, given that the content on the Fatwa of Sheikh Abubakr Ahmad on ISIS is indeed no more substantial than the section summary at Kanthapuram A. P. Aboobacker Musliyar#Fatwa against ISIS. It is an important topic, but there is also not much to be said about it. Klbrain (talk) 12:15, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Merging of Page

message: I just went through few links where Grand Mufti title is used before his name. But in the same time, it is related that the event was organized under the banner of the predominant Sunni organization in the country, All India Thanzeem Ulamae Islam. This organization completely belongs to Barelwi sect and that no one, prominent scholar from Deobandis or other Muslims living in India, joined the event. His being the Grand Mufti is same as that of Izaz Ali Amrohi, Muhammad Shafi Deobandi or Mahmood Hasan Gangohi. Wikipedia brethren must understand this.
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:: this link shows the internal rivarly of Barelwis. It mentions that According to several national Urdu newspapers dated April 2, Maulana Asjad Raza Khan, son and successor of the late Mufti Akhtar Raza Khan Azhari Miyan, has been appointed as ‘Qazi Al-Quzaat’ (chief Islamic justice) of India. With a consensus of 67 Barelwi ulema and muftis (clerics and jurists), It mentions for Musliyar that Just a month ago, South Indian Barelwi cleric and Sunni leader, Shaikh Abu Bakr Musliyar (Kanthapuram AP Abooabcker) was appointed as the Grand Mufti of India at the Ghareeb Nawaz Peace Conference held at Ramlila Maidan, New Delhi. This appointment took place in an anti-terror Islamic conference organized under the banner of the leading Barelwi organizations in the country including All India Tanzeem Ulama-e-Islam, just a barelwi organization. 
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::: this link also somehow says that he is not the one at whole.
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::: this is also relevant that Grand Muftis in India are not official elected by state, rather by their followers. Aaqib Anjum Aafī (talk) 09:41, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Not a Grand Mufti at whole

message: No where in citations mentioned him as an environmentalist. If there citation mentioning like that we may add it again. Otherwise this may considered as original research--Irshadpp (talk) 07:12, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Environmentalist

message: This is a ranking of influential Muslim personalities of the world. If there is an entry, it will be just updated in the next year if any changes there. If you compare the data regarding subject, you may find few sentences which is repeated from 2009 to 2020. As 2020 is more comprehensive, we can give a link of that, and mention mention about previous years.--Irshadpp (talk) 07:18, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Muslim500

message: Date of birth 1939 2402:3A80:1921:6C55:85F0:1A78:57BF:21D1 (talk) 16:01, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Callmemirela 🍁 17:59, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 May 2023 

message: The line 'Grand Mufti of India' is wrong. The correct statement should be as 'Grand mufti of Sunnis in India'. This statement can b supported with a new from The Hindu. https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/kerala/kanthapuram-grand-mufti-of-sunnis-in-india/article26379629.ece Rational Thinker of Kerala (talk) 10:06, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. — Paper9oll (🔔 • 📝) 10:27, 15 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 June 2023