Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Education in Canada/Archive5

message: An editor, User:Pan Dan, has tagged United Synagogue Day School, a private Conservative Jewish Day school in Toronto, as not being notable. I am having trouble proving its notability. Any help to keep it would be appreciated. --YUL89YYZ 23:53, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A plea for help: United Synagogue Day School 

message: My high school http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thornlea_Secondary_School page was modified and rewrote by school admins to beaautify the article. They also removed all negative information written about the school (e.g. drugs, dropouts, students skipping class). For more info, check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Thornlea_Secondary_School
I would read Wikipedia's NPOV document. Misterjerk2 19:14, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Violating freedom of speech 

message: There was already a template for it, but no cat, and that didn't make any sense to me.  So I created one.  I hope I didn't step on any toes.  Kevlar67 23:45, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[:Category:Alberta school stubs]]

message: Just a heads-up that three more elementary schools are presently being discussed for deletion on grounds of lack of notability:
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Eagle Ridge Elementary School
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Walton Elementary School
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Westwood Elementary School (Coquitlam)
With momentum building there to do all the rest that don't claim notabilty too. DMacks 18:58, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please note that the three schools currently noted above (Eagle Ridge, Walton and Westwood) were all changed to redirect to their respective school boards.  PKT 14:53, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't know... I've been involved with this project for a while now, and I'm not sure I can totally justify having a page for every elementary school in Canada. Perhaps the creation of articles for every school in BC was (although well intentioned) a little hasty and ill advised. - TheMightyQuill 01:09, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability Problem 

message: In order to bring the Upper Canada College article up to a status where it can be nominated as a featured article, I've initiated a peer review.  Please have a look at the article and submit your comments at Wikipedia:Peer review/Upper Canada College/archive1.  Thanks. --G2bambino 18:37, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review 

message: Suggestion: someone should write an article on the "traditional schools" concept in British Columbia (and elsewhere, if applicable). Brianyoumans 05:21, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Traditional Schools

message: Added Greater Saskatoon Catholic School Division on the basis of how Saskatoon Public School Division was started.  Also added redirect from Saskatoon Catholic School Division as this was also a link that had been started on some pages, however the proper naming convention seems to be more properly...Greater Saskatoon Catholic School Division Julia 04:48, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Saskatoon, Saskatchewan

message: Someone should add a page for the Faculty of Medicine at Dalhousie since all the other medical schools have a page.
Also, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Schools_of_medicine_in_Canada lists Nova Scotia of not having a medical school. 74.110.113.158 22:10, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dalhousie Faculty of Medicine

message: On random page patrol, I came across a demographics-only stub of a British Columbia elementary school.  At first thinking it was an isolated case and happily seeing a school district article existed with the school listed in a table, I redirected ... and then redirected the handful of other elementary schools in that district.  One, though, led me through a redirection page and I discovered the world of .  AFD is generally permissive of high schools, but rarely allows elementary school articles to survive.  I would like to go through and redirect all of these to their school district and clean up the linking from those district articles, but I don't want to step on anyone's toes.
Any objection to this?  I'd rather help than hinder whatever the determination.  Serpent's Choice 06:47, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Contact the creator of most if not all of them, . I'd support redirecting all of them to the relevant school district articles. Some of them like Kensington Prairie Elementary School might have information worth merging. –Pomte 00:14, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wakemp is no longer participating in Wikipedia, per his talk archive, so unfortunately I cannot inquire with him.  However, if the project agrees that this is a logical approach, I'll get to work.  And obviously, any such articles that contain an assertion of notability beyond just the demographic content will not be redirected without discussion.  Serpent's Choice 02:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  At Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University Hill Elementary School there was a lot of support for the organizational structure of the articles in this WikiProject. However, the above discussion #AfD results and Bridge Elementary School acknowledges that practically content-less stubs should be deleted with no prejudice against recreation if expanded. –Pomte 03:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elementary Schools 

message: Hi, big user of Wikipedia but new to editing and all that.  I want to create a page for my school, NHSS (Bathurst and Finch).  Is there any point to creating this page... and if yes how do I go about doing it?
Deathsupport 22:13, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of high school articles have been discussed for deletion because they are considered to be non-notable. You'll need to assert the notability of the school and back up any claims you make by citing multiple independent reliable sources. Some of the articles at Google News Archive may help. If you think there's enough to say, start the article at Northview Heights Secondary School and I'll help you format it. For examples, see Don Mills Collegiate Institute and other articles in :Category:High schools in Toronto. –Pomte 00:06, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it has the CyberARTS program, as well as the Honours Math, Science and Technology Program.  Furthermore, we have this CCNA Certified Cisco course.. a good swim team.  The school recently turned 50.  Well, I will find some information and then see where I am at that point.  Thanks!
Deathsupport 00:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I put some stuff together.  Will expand on it, but for now Northview Heights Secondary School.
Deathsupport 02:02, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Northview Heights Secondary School 

message: The relationship between elementary and secondary religious schools (particularly) I suspect is different from the US. I suspect they are funded by the state which also exacts some control over the curricula, certification, etc. Is this discussed somewhere? My thought is that (not just for Canada but for all countries), a school article should read, "St. Elizabeth in the Fields is a (link) Canadian school (end of link) in Baytown, Ontario." The "Canadian school" article would contain all the details about the relationship between church and state and church and school. While the financial system is different in the lower colonies, we should probably have something similiar here. The distinction between a Canadian parochial/parish school, diocesan school and state school escapes me, not only in Canada, but in the US as well. Student7 20:13, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dumb question from south of the border

message: This article along with Kwantlen Student Association needs a POV and fact check if folks have a few minutes, plus perhaps a complete re-write. The articles have been compromised by officials from both organizations. GreenJoe 19:31, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Kwantlen University College]]

message: Here's some advice I posted to a talk page: Think of the article this way... who are you, what do you want, why do you exist, when were you created, where are you located, and how do you function? Those are the basic questions that you want answered. We don't need to know about the campus pub, or how much a can of Pepsi is. It's not encyclopedic to mention who the current President is, or what they ate for lunch. We don't care about that. We do care if the President was impeached for buying that pizza with their corporate credit card. --GreenJoe 05:23, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: How to write a great article...

message: I have added St. Patrick's Intermediate School to your project on its discussion page - hope that's OK Stephenb (Talk) 12:22, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Another school

message: I nominated List of Athabasca University people to become featured today. Please take the time to comment. GreenJoe 20:48, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Featured?

message: WikiProject Education in Australia is now officially up and running, feel free to join! Twenty Years 14:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education in Australia 

message: * 5 September - expires 10 September
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thread_title:  Proposed deletions ([[WP:PROD]]) 

message: I'm disappointed because I went through every alumni/people list for a University in Canada, and only 1, List of Athabasca University people cites sources. This needs to be rectified. GreenJoe 15:48, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[:Category:Lists of people by university in Canada]]

message: Given the importance of this issue in the Ontario election, I really think Wikipedia could use a simple summary of the different provinces' approach. I'm trying to do this at Talk:Education_in_Canada#Funding_for_religious_schools.3F I'm having trouble finding a centralized list for this kind of thing and any help would be appreciated. Padraic 22:22, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help with religious school funding summary 

message: I have re-started the proposal for a guideline on naming conventions for school articles. I would like your input at WT:NC(S). Camaron1 | Chris 17:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:NC(S)]] 

message: A large number of Canadian schools have been nominated en masse for deletion. Some are elementary schools and are probably beyond redemption. However, quite a few are secondary schools many of which appear to me to be notable. Perhaps people from this project might like to comment or help to improve the articles by adding references to save them from deletion. The discussions can be access from the following page: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Beaver Creek Elementary School. Dahliarose 15:53, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Canadian schools in AfD

message: I set up a v1.0 assessment table for the project.  A bot will automaticaly update the table with assessment information from talk page templates:
  
--Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 03:28, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment table 

message: Now that we have consolidated and standardized on the spiffy Wikiproject Canada template, I find myself confused as to what "Importance" assessments should be assigned to the various articles out there.  The "Top" article is Education in Canada, which makes sense to me. My question is, which articles should fall into the High, Mid and Low categories?  
To be more specific, what assessments should be applied to universities?  Community colleges? School boards/districts?
If this has been hammered out somewhere, please advise.  Otherwise, I think we need to develop some guidelines.  PKT (talk) 04:05, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The old  project template had no importance parameter. The way the master  template assessment works, the importance is the same for Canada project, education project, and any province or other projects included, thus, the importance should be on a Canada-wide scale. The importance scale is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Canada/Assessment#Importance assessment. I agree that some Education-specific guidelines are needed though. My reading is that Education in Canada would be the sole Top article. I would propose that High articles could be Education in province articles (Education in Québec). Mid could be major university articles and Low, of course, schools. I'm not sure of articles like major school boards (I suspect low) or articles like CEGEP (mid?). DoubleBlue (Talk) 05:34, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Importance" criteria for Project tag 

message: Hi, I'm looking for an editor for Holy Cross Secondary School (St. Catharines). This has a highly successful lacrosse team but the rest of the article needs a big expansion - history, academic standards, other sports etc and, importantly, requires a Google search to identify some good secondary sources. TerriersFan (talk) 16:55, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Holy Cross Secondary School (St. Catharines) 

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I haven't checked all of these yet, but the elementary/middle school articles that exist seem to be merely redirects to the school district articles. I'll remove these as well as plaintext from the templates as they serve no navigational value whatsoever. The school district articles themselves do not contain lists of their schools, so I will add them before doing this. –Pomte 08:42, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NB school district templates 

message: The Ontario College of Art & Design in Toronto has several notable past and current faculty members. I suggest creating a category for OCAD (and perhaps a subcategory for OCAD faculty) and addi the appropriate category to each of the notable faculty member articles. --Eastmain (talk) 04:35, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  proposed category: Ontario College of Art & Design 

message: I just discovered in :Category:British Columbia school stubs that most entries in the category have no template at all; I just worked my way through the 'A' section, but it's pretty laborious; does anyone know enough bot programming to maybe automate/bot the placement of templates globally across certain categories (excluding, in this case, 'A', and any others that have the same template already, as some will). It would take a couple of days to work my way through just this one category; template being placed is .Skookum1 (talk) 18:17, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Is there a way to "bot-omate" template placement?

message: I'm thinking of starting a new WikiProject just for students' unions. I'm wondering if anyone else would be interested in participating? I'm discussing it at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Universities/Student Affairs. GreenJoe 17:56, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds pretty interesting. Is this only for university education unions, or for unions outside of university such as in college or high school also? Would it only be unions, or would clubs and councils also be coverable? Tyciol (talk) 02:01, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This would only be for post-secondary school student unions/associations, and just the main union/association(s) for the school, not the non-notable clubs. High school councils/unions sadly aren't notable. GreenJoe 02:27, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There really are so many post-secondary schools with so many clubs (I think I've seen some with 50 clubs just for 1) that really, the amount makes individual ones possibly non-notable too even though they're not in highschool. The more notable ones are probably ones that network with identical clubs housed in other universities. It gets me thinking that possibly, if high school clubs did this as well (say, anime clubs in nearby highschools cooperating to produce a magazine) that they would become more notable and set an example for other clubs as well. In general, many clubs are just not notable until they do something noticable enough. Giving a possible category for secondary schools to accomplish notoriety in a field where post-secondary hasn't for lack of effort would I think send a good message encouraging contribution. It is sort of like stuff like AP exams getting a leg up on introductionary courses in univerity programs for accelerated learning and recognition for those willing to do the work for it. Tyciol (talk) 02:57, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New WikiProject proposal

message: I am a part of a graduate course at the University of British Columbia.  The focus of our class is Higher Education Systems in Canada.  We are researching the history of higher education in each province, as well as looking at key issues such as governance, funding, access, participation, transferability and trends for future planning and consideration.  Is it possible to include this content within the WikiProject for Education in Canada?  Included are also an overview that considers the role of federalism in higher education. Our class would like to post this content here to present the research we've found to each other, as well as experts in this field. Sherisse sy (talk) 04:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia isn't the place to post research papers, nor host class projects.  Also see WP:NOR.  --Stéphane Charette (talk) 17:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You might want to try WikiSource for that. It seems to be more their forte. GreenJoe 18:15, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Higher Education in Canada 

message: Since this talkpage is crowded, I thought I'd mention this on the appropriate talk page for the subsection, but am putting a notice here to get attention for it. Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Education_in_Canada/Participants. Currently there is a mistaken template link given for participants. Tyciol (talk) 02:03, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing template notice

message: Sedbergh School, Québec is a new article created today.  I will leave it to those editors who work more closely with Canadian school articles to determine if the school if sufficiently notable to merit its own article.  Even if it is notable, the article needs some work.  Before spending any time on the article, however, I thought it best to get some feedback on notability first. Skeezix1000 (talk) 21:16, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Correction - it wasn't created today.  It's been knocking around for sometime.  Skeezix1000 (talk) 21:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sedbergh School, Québec 

message: Hi all. It seems that there are a few (new) editors interested in working on articles related to Higher education in Canada. I don't think there's enough work there to warrant a WikiProject, so I suggested to one user we try to form a task force working in conjunction with this project. It would deal with all aspects of tertiary education in Canada: universities and colleges, public policy, journals, research, scholarship and financing, etc. (see :Category:Higher education in Canada for details) Is anyone here interested in establishing such a task force for this project? Does anyone have concerns about this? I'm willing to do the work to set it up, and would participate in the task force to some degree. The reason for this proposal is to group discussion about topics in this field, which are currently relegated to the category talk page, making collaboration and coordination somewhat difficult. Mindmatrix 15:52, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, I'm one of the new editors and think this is a great way to move this project forward. We've completed some offline brainstorming already and a task force project page would be a convenient way to bring all those thoughts into one place for those interested in contributing and visibility for other editors who are curious. Adhe536ontario2008 (talk) 18:00, 3 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm part of the original group that helped set up the Higher education in Canada pages and am going to start working on getting as many pages up to Wiki standards and getting into citation of content and conversion of as many of the lists to prose as I can.  I'm a quick study, but am still fairly new to the "community" discussion side of Wikipedia.  I'll do my best and would appreciate a task force being set up where efforts, as well as discussion, could be more focused.Chiklets99 7:30, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Higher education in Canada task force 

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thread_title: Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

message: As mentioned at Wikiproject Schools, I'm looking for significant events closely related to primary and secondary-level schools for the selected anniversary section at Portal:Schools/Selected_anniversaries. The plan is to include information on when notable schools opened, events of historical significance, etc. Please consider looking at the current list and suggesting possible additions.   Thanks, --Jh12 (talk) 21:20, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Portal:Schools]] 

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thread_title:  Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Education in Canada 

message: :Category:French language schools in Canada outside Quebec has a very detailed inclusion guideline but I have one quibble.  It referes to "full French Immersion" but does not define it.  My elementry school offered French Immersion from grade 1 to 6, but my high school only offered it from grade 7 to 9, but not beyond that.  Is that full, or not?  Or does it refer to the percentage of students in the school in the program?  Do dual-track schools with small FI classes not qualify as full? --Kevlar (talk • contribs) 21:13, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  French schools outside QC 

message: The article List of universities in Ontario is currently at FLC; since the article falls under this WikiProject's scope, I am posting this notice here. It needs more comments, so if you've got time, please post comments on the FLC. If you do not believe that the article can be improved further, feel free to Support it; otherwise, if you find issues with the article that are actionable, then please Oppose it. Thanks in advance! Gary King (talk) 04:17, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requesting comments for the [[List of universities in Ontario]] FLC found [[Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of universities in Ontario|HERE]] 

message: Is there anything that can be done in the case of teachers asking students to write articles for wikipedia which is a wonderful way to let fledgling editors start up... and then wikipedia doesn't want them...
Kopachuk Middle School  So now this student's work is gone, and wasn't merged or redirected, just gone.  SriMesh | talk 04:01, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If material has been deleted, it can be retrieved by contacting someone at :Category:Wikipedia administrators who will provide copies of deleted articles, although I think in this case editor's had concerns that the material was not appropriate for merging into Peninsula School District#Middle schools. Anyway, it looks like the user in question has appropriately taken up his/her efforts in userspace: User:Dappl/Kopachuck_Middle_School Best, --Jh12 (talk) 06:59, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Thank you for your comment...  I have also moved this conversation to Deletion of teacher assigned projects Here is another school project where the teacher has asked the kids to write about local Edmonton bands which got speedy deleted, and the kids are giving up and asking why bother with the teacher's assignment if they won't stay on wikipedia.  band article deletion   The articles created at this Unannounced class project for the most part survived AFD, and they received help from various wikipedians about manual of style to help them through the AFD nominations. SriMesh | talk 23:05, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion process and school projects

message: Can this Wikipedia talk:School and university projects talk page project page have membership and admins -perhaps through  wikiproject Education  or its child projects, Wikipedia:WikiProject Education in Australia, Wikipedia:WikiProject Education in Canada, Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities, Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools, Wikipedia:WikiProject School Years, Wikipedia:WikiProject Alternative education, Wikipedia:WikiProject Homeschooling... to help find articles which come onto wikipedia as is commented upon in the deletion section above and get deleted before it is discovered they are part of a class project, so that the teacher/students can be contacted about templates etc.  This message also posted at the other wikiprojects as well.  Kind Regards  SriMesh | talk 23:20, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Found it ....Wikiproject Classroom coordination with coordinators, and instructions for students with contacts.  Tis already made.  SriMesh | talk 23:44, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikiproject membership - Admins - coordinators

message: Discussion initiated for Saskatchewan continuity in names/categories.  Please comment on Saskatchewan school division, school district article naming and categorisation.  Kind Regards.  SriMesh | talk 18:43, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Standardisation for Saskatchewan school division naming