Talk:Superstar

message: Came to this article hoping for a comprehensive overview of the term and what it means for popular culture.  It's hard to imagine an article about the superstar phenomenon without at least some treatment of Andy Warhol, who is usually credited with coining the concept if not the word.  I'm wondering if this article might be nibbling around the edges of the phenomenon without getting to the core.Wikidemo 15:10, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great!  I love the new Andy Warhol quote about Ingrid Superstar.  However, I think it would be more encyclopedic to say something like "Andy Warhol, credited with popularizing the term,[cite] claims it derived from a model among his circle who called herself Ingrid Superstar. [cite Warhol quote]..." etc.  One source to start on is this one: . Wikidemo 03:30, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
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message: I like the way the article is going - it's very informative even though a little messy.  But some ongoing concerns.
Not sure why Susan Sarandon is held out as the epitome of superstar.  That seems kind of random.  And though Mary Woronov is certainly a very handsome middle aged woman, she is not exuding superstar quality in that picture.  This is a good example where we can use a non-free image from the Warhol days.  They're certainly irreplaceable.  Or a new image of an unarguable current superstar (are there any left today?  Paris Hilton comes to mind but she's more of a postmodern deconstruction of the superstar myth than a real superstar.  Hannah Montana?).  Best is if we could find a free period image of Nico, Edie Sedgewick, Woronov, or one of the other period 60s or 70s women.
Also, why are we linking to citations in the form of a google cache of lecture notes?  That seems really sloppy and probably not a  reliable source.  Wikidemo (talk) 23:18, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Now Aaliyah is the prime example? She died several years ago - shouldnt the current example be, well... current? How about Beyonce instead? Or, hell, you've got Angelina Jolie, Brad Pitt, Hugh Jackman... Metao (talk) 01:46, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
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message: When this is what the majority of the refs' footnotes say, I think it's pretty clear that better sources are needed.  I don't know how these are working for other people, but the last two refs weren't working for me.   Mbinebri  talk ← 02:58, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
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message: Are Paul McCartney and The Rolling Stones really American Royalty? --AdamSommerton (talk) 00:30, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
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message: Shouldn't Michael Jackson be there with an image? I mean, he is most likely the best known Superstar in the world.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by AndroidOfNotreDame (talk • contribs) 10:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
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message: The word *superstar* has little or no meaning, now and for some time, greater than has the word "awesome."
Both are at once bloated with overuse and abrased of even superficial comparative meaning.
It seems, with a little online archival  newspaper searching, that 'super-star' (as it was originally typographed) was taken up first in popular usage in many places as a sports term - the Wikipedia page announces two examples.
In the arts there was Caruso , and Charles Chaplin,  and Sarah Bernhardt who would halt traffic and draw great crowds.
They were not stars or superstars. They were Caruso, or Chaplin, or Bernhardt. 
Bradman.
Secretariat.
As the closer to the present day show business term it was used to define the duo Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton.
Following Cleopatra (1963) they as a marquée couple obtained astronomical fees for their film-making.
It was those enormous amounts of money that were really the great stars, that is, the drawing power, of the films that were made by them beginning 1964.
They were actually outside the Hollywood system, greater than the accepted international stars such as Sophia Loren, and to explain their identity the term *superstars* filtered in very quickly into the journalistic world-wide apparatus.
It became a new form of 'the highest'. One who was greater than the system.  
An immediate one to assume that new reality was Barbra Streisand. And then the steady very few followed.
It was not until Madonna that the new constellation was born. Beyoncé, if I am correct, being the most recent full-blown incarnation.
The Wikipedia article  allows Andy Warhol the claim to the term's modern genesis. A search of  http://www.warholstars.org will shift the exact baptism a little.
http://www.warholstars.org/warholfilm/andywarhol9.html ( "Warholstars Condensed... sort of ---" Page 9 ) 
Gerard Malanga:
 
"Andy loved to manipulate and control people, and his vengeance against Edie (Sedgwick)... was Ingrid Superstar. This was Ingrid's entry into the Warhol scene, brought in by Chuck Wein, who was also getting even with Edie. I came up with the name Ingrid Superstar, because you can't top that. ... Ingrid was a sweetheart, but Ingrid just totally lacked class... She was this girl from a working-class background in Jersey with a Jersey accent."
But the term *superstar* was already the Burtons' , Elizabeth Taylor and Richard Burton.  I  would say that with certainty if I could find the dates.
Essentially the *superstar* is the person overwhelmingly greater than any integrated system of talent to which its gift belongs. In one other word - "awesome."
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