Talk:Jawaharlal Nehru/Archive 1

message: Archive of Talk:Jawaharlal Nehru up to May 30, 2005. -Lommer | talk 01:15, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)

message: IMPORTANT: the views in this section seems violation of wikepedia's principles - as an article named Nehruvian-Stalinism was earlier deleted after compying with due process of VfD. The contents of that artilce has been placed here. In case, the editor of this section was really serious, why he did not put words contained in these sections earlier here in this artilce? He/She knows article Jawaharlal Nehru will never get deleted, so by back-door he is trying to do damage to this article. He/She is also using very bad language in his edit summaries. --MissingLinks 16:25, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, the VFD page can be found here: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Log/2005 April 21#Nehruvian-Stalinism. Note the suspicious number of new users. The fact that the section is being re-added by an extremely dogmatic and abusive ("white supremacists"?) anonymous user doesn't help. This borders on vandalism. --Xiaopo ℑ 01:01, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the claim that a term did not deserve a page by itself may be valid, but to claim that it does not even deserve to be mentioned in the context of Nehru is invalid. Nehru WAS a quasi-Communist, he set up Stalinist Institutions, he made India into a satellite of Soviets and he kept India poor. Non-Aligned Movement was nothing more than being non-aligned with freedom. It was an organization for Communists, Islamists and dictators. Now don't let your prejudice cloud you and bring down the quality of Wikipedia. Notice the sudden influx of Chinese (members of the Chinese Communist Party?)
I have edited away the section called Conspiracy Theory which frankly doesn't belong in a serious encyclopedia article. First of all rumors about personal affairs don't constitute "conspiracy theories". Secondly the section is far too long and overshadows the far more important sections about Nehru's political life. A few sentences might be OK but entire paragraphs about personal rumors don't belong in a serious article.
   
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I removed the material added in this edit  as it appears to be copyrighted material from . If the contributor controls the copyright, please indicate here on the talk page. In any case, it is not appropriate to reproduce an entire article verbatim within an article. If you do own the copyright, understand that the material will be edited once you add it to the article. older≠wiser 14:18, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  article [[Nehruvian-Stalinism]] was earlier deleted VfD 

message: I understand wikipedia welcomes all, and so edits by anonymous users are always welcome - but edits should conform to wiki policies. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not a depository of unsubstantiated information and personal opinions. Edits should be encyclopedic in nature, not look like airing of views and re-writing of history. All edits which have been reverted should be discussed to arrive at a consensus. Above anonymous editors are most welcome to register and contribute to make wikipedia stronger.--Bhadani 04:20, 24 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Welcome

message: Ref: "Bhadani is a governemnt stooge" - interesting to note that the ghost of Bhadani, who has perhaps not come to this page for weeks, continues to haunt some annonymous users.  --MissingLinks 13:51, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  ghost of Bhadani 

message: I still strongly encourage you all to sign up for accounts. It will make things easier for everyone. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 16:10, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  To the Annon. IP Addresses 

message: Pandit is Scholar, not Teacher. --Spundun 03:41, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pandit 

message: I understand the article is currently protected because of some vandalism nonsense.  When it comes back, I wonder if editors can make an effort to make the tone a bit more encyclopedic.  Now it reads something like a lyrical novel, in parts.  E.g.:
:The bride, Kamala Kaul, a girl of barely seventeen, slim and pretty, was chosen by his parents. 
I'm sure the fact is right, but could be more neutrally phrased as, e.g.:
:By his parents' arrangement, Nehru married Kamala Kaul, then seventeen.
Or also:
:Kamala Nehru was suffering from tuberculosis and breathed her last on ...
Is less poetical (i.e. more encyclopedic as):
:Kamala Nehur died of tuberculosis on ...
Or:
:Considerably more realistic than the dreamily idealistic Nehru, the pragmatic Patel...
C'mon "dreamily idealistic"?!  Maybe just "idealistic" is OK, but still not great.
:Gandhi's inexplicable preference for Nehru.
The editor may not understand, nor probably agree with, such preference; but it's hardly encyclopedic to call it "inexplicable."
Lulu of the Lotus-Eaters 23:01, 2005 May 21 (UTC)
:I am sure the admins could edit that. Also, I would add the words "then at the time seventeen" when the marriage is discussed. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 23:05, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  A bit less poetical 

message: *Hello all, I came to the talk page of Jawaharlal Nehru after a long gap, and found several comments since I had last visited the page. 
*It was interesting to view and read all the comments. 
*Thanks.--Bhadani 18:30, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Nehru & Stalin 

message: I've removed various extremely vicious personal attacks from an anonymous user, including ethnic slurs against people living in a specific part of India and accusations that anyone who disagreed with him was a "White supremacist". I don't feel that these add anything productive to the discussion, and they violate Wikipedia policy (Wikipedia:No personal attacks). If anyone really wants to read them, they can view the history. If any registered user wants to reinstate them, let them do so. But I don't feel it is appropriate for our contributors to be buffetted by this nonsense. If any more such personal attacks are forthcoming, I may open a request for comments against this anonymous POV-pusher. Firebug 19:16, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please watch for ethnic and personal attacks