Talk:Turkmen language

message: Turkmen does not use the Cyrillic alphabet any longer. olivier 10:58, 6 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Several questions about the Turkmen Latin script:
#Does anyone know how well the introduction of Turkmen Latin script goes on there? Is it taught in schools, or is there still a mix of Cyrillic and Latin? Are there any adult people who use it?
:Hi, I am native speaker of Turkmen and writer in Turkmen wiki. officially, there is no Turkmen alphabet which is a mixture of cyrillic and latin, however, some sources use cyrillis so that the old people who were educated in Soviet system and do not know current alphabet can understand what they write/explain.
#In what language are newspapers printed? Street signs? Government documents and passports?
: usually, in Turkmen alphabet which is very similar to that of Enlish and Turkish and which is Latin alpabet. Government documents, passports and street signs are also written in Turkmen, however there are some exceptions which are written in Turkmen with russian alphabet or cyrillic Turkmen.
#Who designed it? It seems very weird in comparison to other Turkic Latin scripts. Where Turkish and Azeri use dotless i, Turkmen uses y, like Polish, and where Turkish uses y it uses y-acute. If the purpose of Latinization was to bring the Turkmen culture closer to Turkish, then it missed the point entirely. It actually looks so stupid, that it makes me think that the Great Serdar Saparmurad Turkmenbashi designed it himself.
There are some speculations or rumours that say current Turkmen alphabet is designed to make it look like Turkish alphabet, I do not know is it true or not. and I very doubt Saparmyrat Turkmenbashy the Great and others who composed the alphabet told something like that when they announced new Turkmen alphabet.
#What does the exiled Turkmen opposition think about the script? I see that some opposition websites use Cyrillic and some use Turkmenbashi's weird Latin, even though they hate Turkmenbashi. Are there any proposals to make yet another reform that will make Turkmen look like Turkish and Azeri?--Amir E. Aharoni 12:35, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin script 

message: It is a southern Turkic language, in the Turkmenian group, closely related to Crimean Tatar and Salar, and less closely related to Turkish and Azerbaijani.
What is the metric of closeness used here? I speak Turkish; I took a look at the Turkmen resources at http://www.chaihana.com/lang.html. Not only that the language is pretty close to Istanbul Turkish, I would think that it is pretty much the same thing with Azeri language. This makes me think that Turkmen and Tatar languages should be identical.  -AverageTurkishJoe 02:29, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Measure of Closeness 

message: Now the link title on the left side shows up as
: تركمن / Туркмен
There are at least 2 things not OK:
# The Cyrillic spelling should be Түркмен with the special letter ү for ü (this spelling is given in the article).
# The main script for Turkmen is Latin now, so it should be there in the link title.
Where to report this issue? (Also posted to Wikipedia talk:Interlanguage links#Where to report a problem with interlang. link title (Turkmen)?.)
--Imz 23:38, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia interlanguage link title is wrong 

message: Why do Turkmen names sound so Slavic? The Russianized name of the new acting president looks suspiciously similar to his Turkmen name. Does Turkmen use the same sort of suffix system for names as many Slavic languages do? —pfahlstrom 22:19, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a result of the Soviet era. They were under a "Slavization" project.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.179.207.202 (talk) 15:55, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names? 

message: In a book about Turkic languages (not old and edited by Routledge, I have not the ISBN right here now, I'll provide it asap) I have found the spellings "ñ" and "ÿ" instead "ň" and "ý". Are they incorrect or obsolete? Or are "ň" and "ý" the "easier computer options"? Thanks. --81.149.117.81 (talk) 14:04, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I wrote the previous question from a cybercafe and I did not log on because I was in a hurry. The book is titled "Dictionary of the Turkic Languages", by Kurtuluş Öztopçu et al, . It was first published in 1996 and reprinted in 1999 but the copy I have is from 2006 (I took it from Ilford Public Library and it says it was transferred to digital printing in 2006) which means it should/could have been corrected if the spelling in Turkmen were wrong or had become out of date. According to the book "Azerbaijani, Turkmen and Uzbek are given in both their official Cyrillic and Latin scripts" (page x) but not a single "ý" or "ň" can be seen in the many Turkmen entries of the book. In page ix it can be read "Responsibility for the content and editing of the individual languages was undertaken as follows: [...] Turkmen: Youssef Azemoun, Turkmen expert.". I would appreciate if anybody could tell me how official are the spellings ñ & ÿ versus ň & ý. Thanks--Piolinfax (talk) 12:00, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: ñ & ÿ / ň & ý

message: I believe this is the same language as South Azeri so I have proposed a merger. Izzedine (talk) 12:42, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No.  This not the same language as Turkmen.  Confer any book on the Turkic languages and this will be confirmed.  Both languages are identified separately in ISO 639-3 and South Azeri is actually part of the Azerbaijani macrolanguage, which does not include Turkmen.  (Taivo (talk) 14:28, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I am going to remove the request for merger tag here.  It is completely unwarranted on the basis of reliable linguistics.  (Taivo (talk) 14:29, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah yes, my mistake, this is Turkmenistan Turkmen, which is different to the language of the Iraqi and Syrian Turkmen - which is South Azeri. Izzedine (talk) 08:29, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They might be different, but how different? I think a section about the differences (and similarities) between South Azeri (Iraq Turks) and Turkumani (Turkmenistan Turks) language should be made.--Aa2-2004 (talk) 13:27, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: Is the sound represented by the letter y really ? It sounds more like  to me. — amateur (talk) 22:14, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Y 

message: -DAn for "instrumental" sounds a bit odd, so I've tagged it. This should probably be ablative. This is the typical Turkic thing and is what is in Routledge's The Turkic Languages. Also, calling "ýok" a verb is an unusual choice. Categorising its part-of-speech is hard, so it might just be better to call it a "word". - Francis Tyers · 13:53, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Cases

message: The Swedish encyclopedia is really off our other figures here. Any idea what's going on? — kwami (talk) 02:52, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: (Someone on WP falsified the NE entry, that's all. — kwami (talk) 19:46, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

message: When I saw this as the name of the "Russian dialect" of Turkmen (whatever that's supposed to mean - the same thing written in Cyrillic?), I clicked on the link to find out more - which simply brought me back to the start of the very same article. In other words, this is a completely pointless link - you can keep on going round in circles for ever, without learning anything new!188.230.248.85 (talk) 16:12, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Truhkmen 

message: Please haýyş edýärin diýmek Beghan Mammedov (talk) 18:15, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  please -aý -äý 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello! Information with linguist Oleg Mudrak in the English Wikipedia was first introduced by me in August 2019 in the article "Azerbaijani language". The fact is that then I did not take into account the place of publication. The site says that this is a transcript of a lecture by Oleg Mudrak, read on April 16, 2009 at the Bilingua literary cafe club within the framework of the Polit.ru Public Lectures project. Please provide similar information published in a scientific source. If the data is valid, this should not be a problem. Why hasn't Oleg Mudrak made a scientific article with this information for more than 10 years, didn't publish it in a scientific publishing house? Or published it? .. In this case, it is necessary to find and add, but in this form it raises doubts. Look also WP:FRINGE. 
A well-known scientific fact is not difficult to find in an academic source... V.N.Ali (talk) 15:01, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  comparative linguistics 

message: The source you provided for the Turkmen speaker population is not accurate especially considering how Ethnic Turkmen only number 5 million people In Turkmenistan according to Ethnologue and the sources provided on the main article page for Turkmens. Cookiemonster1618 (talk) 17:00, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source provided for Turkmen speaker population is not accurate