Talk:List of National Historic Landmarks in Minnesota

message: The article is nearing completion in some ways:  it is a complete list of the 22 NHLs in Minnesota and there's now a photo for each one.  To open a discussion, I just assigned the article Stub rating within WP:NRHP.
Consistent with a proposal on "Quality rating of lists" and "Quality rating of NHL articles" within Talk page of WP:NRHP, I view this article currently as a Stub within WP:NRHP.  It is more substantial than any mere list, so needs to be shown as an article not a list (and can be promoted to class=Start, then class=B, then Class=FL.  
There's other room for improvement in the subsidiary articles, per criteria proposed at WP:NRHP.  For example, only the first two articles on the list include as references the basic NRHP and/or NHL nomination text and photo links that are available, which is a proposed requirement to hold Start rating in WP:NRHP articles.  Others need to have such references added, or arguably merit only Stub rating.
The overall list needs all subsidiary articles to have Start rating, though, to attain "B" rating itself, by the proposal.  To attain "Start" rating for the overall list, there needs to be at least a "Stub" for each article.  As currently some of the articles are redlinks only, the overall list is limited to "Stub" rating for now.
Comments welcome.  doncram 23:43, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for working on this.  We're getting there; I'll try to get those nomination texts cited.--Appraiser 14:52, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I wasn't able to find the nomination forms for the Kathio Site (66000403), the Plummer Building (69000075), or the St. Croix Recreational Demonstration Area (96001594). Any idea where to find them?--Appraiser 17:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To look for those, i visit National Register search site and search on all available for the entire state of Minnesota.  It turns up a lot of sites:  most of the NHLs and some other prominent sites, perhaps NHL candidates that didn't make it.  Most normal NRHPs are not covered.  The St. Croix Rec Dem Area that you ask about is available under refnum 97001261 at 	text and photos.  Corresponding to the first two are a "Kathio" site and a "Mayo Clinic Buildings" that show up in the search but the system provides no valid link to text or photos, indicating that reports exist but are not made available on-line.  Archaeological sites like the Kathio site are sometimes entirely withheld, or sometimes made available in redacted form.  I can't imagine why the "Mayo Clinic Buildings" item would not be made available, but it is not, perhaps just a technical glitch in their system.  You can send an email request to NPS to get copies sent by postal mail, for no charge (as you can do for any NRHP site). Some states (e.g. Illinois) have their own website with all their NRHP and NHL documents scanned.  If it's not available on-line though, my view is that an article can get "Start" rating without it, you just have to indicate the document is not available on-line in the talk page discussion of the article rating.  They are highly relevant documents, definitive on the significance of the site for NHL designation, often the only definitive source on the area covered by the NHL designation.  The NHL summary webpage for each one, on the other hand, usually is just a very brief summary based on this document, the real source.  Hope this helps.  doncram 19:25, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Appraiser I see you are adding the NHL nomination text and photos to articles, thank you for doing that.  FYI, I made small edits to those references for the Washburn "A" Mill article, to show how I would prefer to show the PDF filesizes for those, plus to use the NHL summary reference to support the NHL date in the infobox.  Note I move the NRIS reference to support the NRHP date, in contrast (esp. as the NRIS reference no longer supports the entire NRHP infobox).  Looking good.  I am afraid you can beat my pet project List of National Historic Landmarks in New York to the finish line for FL status, if you want to. :)  By all means, go for it... doncram 23:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Got your reply to my Talk page. The NRHP add date source including month and day as well as year that i and some others use is from NRIS itself, but via the Elkman infobox generator.  That really generates reports off a single download of NRIS data that Elkman accessed.  I dunno if PDF filesizes matter all that much for rating purposes say, but on my DSL connection, I can see the difference in download times according to filesizes, so I have been believing it is a helpful thing to indicate. Cheers, doncram 00:45, 8 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I went through all the articles and up-rated the remaining 5 or 6 that were at Stub to Start now.  They are at least that.  It is okay for a Start article to have some outstanding questions, i understand better now.  So I also up-rate this List-article to B-class now for NRHP.  It is nice work.`doncram (talk) 03:44, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Quality rating of article, within WP:NRHP

message: Photos and text documentation of many of the MN NHLs are available at Historic American Buildings Survey, as has been shown already by addition of selected photos to some of the sites.  I just added links from the Rabideau CCC Camp article to its many HABS photo sets, into its External Links section.  There are even more HABS photo sets available for Fort Snelling.  Another example of an NHL article having many HABS links is Croton Aqueduct, in NYS.  I think adding HABS links helps, but I am not sure of the best way to format these, especially when there are so many separate HABS photo sets for different structures on one site.  I guess I would just put them all in, let it be a long list, baring any better idea. -- doncram (talk) 19:48, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
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