Talk:Görlitz

message: Görlitz is a town in Germany on the river Neiße, in the Bundesland (Federal State) of Saxony. Historically it belonged at some times to the regions of Lusatia and Silesia. Population: 62,000 (2002).
=== History ===
The date of the town's foundation is unknown. It was first mentioned in 1071. At that time Görlitz was a small village named Gorelic in the region of Lusatia, that soon after became a part of Bohemia. In the 13th century the village gradually became a city. In the following centuries it was a wealthy member of the Six Towns' Alliance, consisting of the six Lusatian cities Görlitz, Bautzen, Lauban, Löbau, Kamenz and Zittau.
After suffering for years in the Thirty Years' War, the region of Upper Lusatia (including Görlitz) was passed over to Saxony (1635). In 1815, after the Napoleonic Wars, the Congress of Vienna decided to make Görlitz a part of Prussia. Thus the town was a part of the Prussian province of Silesia from 1815 to 1945.
When Nazi Germany lost the war, German troops blew up all bridges crossing the Neiße. The redrawing of boundaries in 1945 divided the town, the right bank becoming part of Poland, and renamed Zgorzelec in 1948, while the main portion became part of the German state of Saxony. When the East German states were dissolved in 1952, Görlitz became part of the Dresden Bezirk (region), but the states were restored on the German reunification in 1990.
Today Görlitz and Zgorzelec, two towns on opposite banks of the river, have friendly relations. The bridges are rebuilt, several bus lines connect the German and Polish parts of the town, and there is a common urban management, with annual common sessions of both town councils.
=== Sights ===
(I guess this section is less controversial and may be added later.)
=== External link ===
Official website
Okay, that's it. -- Baldhur 17:35, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe there will be not much opposition to this version, but would suggest that Wik comment on this (will ask him to); if he has no problems with this, I guess it can replace the other article and the lock lifted. Kosebamse 07:50, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

text: That's right Iacobus, and also the reason why I'm going to change it. After all, the entries in the German and Polish Wikipedias have been showing the right coat of arms for a while... Edwing
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By the way, I'm feeling a bit unwell about the first sentence, stating that "Görlitz ... is a town ... opposite the Polish town of Zgorzelec, with which it was united until 1945." 
"Having been united with" sounds like some sort of union that had been preceded by separateness before (like talking about countries in south-eastern Europe that "were united in Jugoslavia until 1990" or something). However before the separation, no Zgorzelec existed, the Prussian town of Görlitz also being called by its German name by the Polish; so it is also logically incorrect since it implies that before 1945, there had been a Zgorzelec that Görlitz could have been "united" with.
Thus, I would prefer this to say: "... Zgorzelec, which was created out of a suburb [or by me: part] of the Prussian pre-war town." Anybody disagree?
Edwing 17:26, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Baldhur's version

message: Official website
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Okay, that's it. -- Baldhur 17:35, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe there will be not much opposition to this version, but would suggest that Wik comment on this (will ask him to); if he has no problems with this, I guess it can replace the other article and the lock lifted. Kosebamse 07:50, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

text: That's right Iacobus, and also the reason why I'm going to change it. After all, the entries in the German and Polish Wikipedias have been showing the right coat of arms for a while... Edwing
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By the way, I'm feeling a bit unwell about the first sentence, stating that "Görlitz ... is a town ... opposite the Polish town of Zgorzelec, with which it was united until 1945." 
"Having been united with" sounds like some sort of union that had been preceded by separateness before (like talking about countries in south-eastern Europe that "were united in Jugoslavia until 1990" or something). However before the separation, no Zgorzelec existed, the Prussian town of Görlitz also being called by its German name by the Polish; so it is also logically incorrect since it implies that before 1945, there had been a Zgorzelec that Görlitz could have been "united" with.
Thus, I would prefer this to say: "... Zgorzelec, which was created out of a suburb [or by me: part] of the Prussian pre-war town." Anybody disagree?
Edwing 17:26, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
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message: This sounds strange. Görlitz was always a part of (Upper) Lusatia because Upper Lusatia is a historical region, but Upper Lusatia, or parts of Upper Lusatia, belonged to several historical states like Bohemia, Saxony or Prussia. Even when Prussia changed the administrative borders of Silesia Görlitz was still in Upper Lusatia.  84.181.97.9 08:54, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Historically it has belonged at times to the regions of Lusatia and Silesia" 

message: Please, let somebody add this to the page (I am new around and don't know how it works, and how to do it,  but some of you guys will surely know :) It is a WW I General name : Pavle Jurisic Sturm, born and rised in Gorlitz, and unfortunately, his name is accidentaly omited from the list of its famous citizens. It is on: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pavle_Juri%C5%A1i%C4%87_%C5%A0turm For us Serbians this brave prussian gentelman is intrinsic part of our history and we would appreciate him mentioned. Thanks!
: It's all about grammar, the person writing it probably knew that. --42.113.197.213 (talk) 02:21, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
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message: What connection can there possibly be between Görlitz and Messiaen?! 83.163.73.142 (talk) 13:18, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: He was a prisoner at :Stalag VIII-A which was south of the city. Walter Görlitz (talk) 13:34, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added this context to the list. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 04:49, 2 February 2021 (UTC)
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