Talk:The Shamen

message: There are too many red links in this article. Wikipedia has standards regarding notability; not every song or album is considered 'worthy' of a seperate article.
I propose retaining red (and preferably blue!) links for the following:
===Albums===
* Drop (The Shamen album) (1987) -- Debut album
* In Gorbachev We Trust (1989) -- Landmark album; Will Sin's arrival
* Phorward (1989) -- Landmark, The Shamen's metamorphosis from jangly psychedelic indie rock to serious techno merchants is complete
* En Tact (1990) -- Of course
* Boss Drum (1992) -- Massive commercial (and some critical) success
* Different Drum -- should redirect to and be covered in Boss Drum. (NB: I think there was a Michael Nesmith album of the same name? Off the top of my head...)
* Axis Mutatis (1995)
* Hempton Manor (1996)
* UV (album)
===Singles/songs===
I think it's best to start out with a few red links. We can always look at adding articles for e.g. the other singles from Boss Drum later.
*Christopher Mayhew Says/Mayhew Speaks Out -- I consider this notable because it's an important song in the genre
*Jesus Loves Amerika -- Ditto
*Move Any Mountain/Pro Gen -- I think indisputably notable; brought dance music to the attention of the indie brigade and an important landmark in the Shamen's history
*Ebeneezer Goode -- A #1 hit single
*Strange Days Dream -- is possible because of the S&N sessions, but I've delinked it for now
===Personnel===
I think that only Colin, Mr C, and Will Sin are candidates for individual articles. C has a profile outside the Shamen, but Colin and Will might not need individual articles.
--kingboyk 23:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red links/notability 

message: I think that only Colin, Mr C, and Will Sin are candidates for individual articles. C has a profile outside the Shamen, but Colin and Will might not need individual articles.
--kingboyk 23:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Personnel

message: Do we know when Mr C officially joined The Shamen? I was under the impression (perhaps mistaken) that he was a guest musician until Will Sin died, at which time (when exactly?) Colin invited him to become an official member? --kingboyk 19:02, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Mr C]] 

message: The article states that
:it wasn't until June's "Jesus Loves Amerika" single that the techno influence began to show.
That's June, 1988.
But Christopher Mayhew Says came in September 1987.
Surely that one is as much techno as Jesus Loves Amerika?
(Or, maybe more importantly, an obvious break with their earlier style.
Neither of those two have much in common with their much later
and frequently more commercial sound.)
JöG 22:34, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was a lot darker than what had come before; it was the start of something new whether it was techno or not. Anyway, best to base these things on what published authors say not what we as editors think. --kingboyk (talk) 19:31, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  First techno influences? 

message: http://www.plavka.com/notw.jpg
How come nothing is mentioned of her? Is it because her presence exposes Angus in a rather unfavorable light? One way or the other, the info from the published article should be included in the history section.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.145.10.49 (talk) 04:01, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. USRepublican (talk) 00:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plavka 

message: The article says:
"In May 1991, The Shamen headed to Tenerife to film a video for "Move Any Mountain." On May 23, Sinnott drowned in an accident off coast of La Gomera."
This reads strange, because La Gomera is the island in the west of Tenerife. They flew to A, but he dropped of the coast on B. Do you mean "They headed to the Canary Islands"?
Furthermore this page
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Move_Any_Mountain
says
"The promotional video was filmed on the Tenerife island where Will Sinnott drowned and died"
Where did the accident happen? Teneriffe or La Gomera?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.133.119.177 (talk) 14:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location doesn't match 

message: Possibly hard to reference properly, but it annoys me that
the article is fairly heavily POV, and still fails to capture
the themes of the Shamen's music, which were faily obvious to fans
at the time. Off the top of my head:
* anti-Christianity
* anti-Thatcher, anti US Christian right-wing
* making political and spiritual change through use of psychedelic drugs, 
* drugs and dance music as modern shamanistic tools
* eschatology
Much of this can be tied to McKenna, I suppose.
JöG (talk) 07:59, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Themes 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I fail to see why a certain user contains to remove this subgenre from groups that clearly have made a sizeable amount of this style of music under the guise of calling every IP address either 'Mr. Techno From Greece' or the 'Japanese vandal'.  
The Shamen are noted as making techno on various websites, and have cited it themselves on a regular basis.  Here's one link just for starters - http://www.nemeton.com/static/nemeton/axis-mutatis/biog.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.50.19.242 (talk) 01:11, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Techno 

message: As the correct plural of "shaman" is "shamans" (see O.E.D., et al.), a word as to the name might be useful (it's what I came here to discover, and I was disappointed to find no explanation).  Is it a mistake made out of ignorance, a deliberate decision, or what?
e.g.:
1972   P. M. Bartz S. Korea 42/1   Primitive spirit worship (shamanism) was followed by Buddhism... Today, there are said to be 27,000 shamans, 10,000 of them women.
1979   London Rev. Bks. 25 Oct. 1/1   America lacks this type of magician—the shamans there are grander, more worldly, more pretentious.
 --87.112.45.99 (talk) 12:54, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shamen/Shamans