Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Oregon/Archive 2

message: Once upon a time, I did a lot of work fleshing out the original Ram-bot entries. I never finished all that could have been done, but here are some of the tasks I started:
* Adding the origins of the community names from Oregon Geographic Names -- & they should be properly referenced.
* From the Oregon Blue Book, adding the year each city was incorporated. (I think this reference is still online). If it's not incorporated, then entry should be changed to call the place "an unincorporated community".
* Counties need lists of major state, US, & Interstate highways. (Many states, like Washington, have this information in their country articles.)
* Many articles have grown wild & have lost al structure that they once had. Someone needs to sort through each one & copy edit them -- & do it again in 6-12 months.
* I always thought the Geographical sections ought to provide the distance of each location from an appropriate landmark that a non-Oregonian would recognize -- say the county seat for the smallest communities, & from Salem (the capital) or Portland (the largest city) for the rest.
* Ward Weaver III needs to be written: the son of a murderer, his own killing eerily mirrors his own father's crimes -- as well as being the center of a notorious media circus. I'm sure there are quite a few Oregonians who need to be written about. (I think it could be argued that Tom Peterson deserves an article as someone who appears in a number of Gus Van Sant's movies.)
Good luck. -- llywrch 20:09, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions 

message: I'd like to see some sort of collaboration or cohesion come out of this, so that maybe we can promote some key articles to FA. Any suggestions? See Wikiproject Michigan for efficiency in Wikiprojects.  PDXblazers 19:57, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the first step would be to get the Oregon article up to featured status.  It looks really good right now, I think with some more sources and cleanup, perhaps have it go through peer review it wouldn't be all that hard to get it to be a FA.  Someone could probably add this to the good articles list as is. I'd also like to get Oregon State University up to FA status along the road (we should probably get the other major universities up there as well). VegaDark 20:52, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I'd say Oregon and Portland, Oregon should be our top aims for FA status, as they venture near it already. Oregon State University is also looking pretty good at this point. Putting out Peer Reviews on these might be a good way of sorting out what else needs to be done. As for articles that just really need work, I'd say Willamette River is a high priority. Sarge Baldy 21:09, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I third that the Oregon and Portland, Oregon articles be FA goals. They are the most attainable at the moment.Ajbenj 21:12, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah, the U of O article could use a history section and quite a few more pictures (they really add a lot of points in deciding new FAs). The Oregon Coast is really my favorite place in the world, so I appreciate what's been done with it. I especially found it interesting that Oregon is unique in banning private ownership of coastal property. I guess I've lived here long enough the idea of someone actually owning the coastline seems rather barbaric. Sarge Baldy 02:58, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There should be some mention in the Oregon Coast article about the highway 101 bridges. Maybe a list of them, and a category? Also maybe more of the lighthouses should get some articles too (with their own category inside of Category:Oregon Coast. Ajbenj 21:12, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, feel free to add those.  I've done a lot of work to the coast article, but there is still tons to do.  I don't know about a list of bridges on the page itself, but maybe a brief description with a link to a daughter article?  Same for the lighthouses maybe?  Also, lots more to add about geography and tourism.  I'd love to see others work on it. PDXblazers 23:19, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure thing. I was thinking of a stand-alone list like what you have suggested. I'll try to find a comprehensive list of all the coast bridges, if not, it will at least have all the major ones with links to their main articles. Ajbenj 22:44, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collaboration or Cohesion 

message: So it seems like we have consensus that our first FAC attempt should be either Oregon or Portland, Oregon.  I'm calling for a discussion and vote on which to work on? the iBook of the Revolution
*Portland, Oregon - Personally, I feel like I can contribute best to this article (forgive my suburban bias).  the iBook of the Revolution 00:53, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Oregon]] v. [[Portland, Oregon]] 

message: I'm currently awaiting word from a number of cities across Oregon for information and images of their city flags and seals. I emailed half the list of cities in the Oregon box that appears below most Oregon-related articles, plus Vancouver, Washington (I know its not Oregon, but it needs some attention from me as I'm near it in the Portland area). I have also hunted down Eugene's seal, and cleaned up Oregon City's article. 
So far Lake Oswego, Corvallis, and Albany have replied with info. Corvallis does not allow its city symbols to be used however. 
With some nice city info boxes, there'll be some uniformity to at least the bigger cities in Oregon. The goal is to have each Oregon municipality article resemble Salem's page in some form. Portland's info box template seems to be for the much larger cities.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ajbenj (talk • contribs) 17:34, 17 May 2006  (UTC)
We tried to get Medford's seal inserted, but have had trouble with it.  Perhaps you could do better? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PDXblazers (talk • contribs) 17:47, 17 May 2006  (UTC)
:Wrote up a little bit on your talk page about this Blazers! Working on getting a city-sanctioned version. Just pulling things off their servers could be a big no-no, as I found out with Corvallis. Although these could be considered public documents, or public domain, they really are subject to each individual city's terms. Most are copyrighted, or at best unclear. Its best that we ask permission first before posting anything. Besides, the cities usually can dig up better images than they have on their websites if you ask. I'm going through all these myself and making sure any future city symbols posted are the best ones we can get, and that Wikipedia's usage of those is OK with said authorities. Also I will eventually get around to looking at previously posted images, and making sure their copyright status is OK as well. Ajbenj 23:02, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that the cities can deny the use of their seals.  I believe they are allowed without consent of the copyright holder as fair use under the Copyright Act of 1976.  Cacophony 02:13, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  City info box, seals and flags project 

message: I started fleshing out the city subproject page a while ago, now I have figured out what to do with it. If anyone wants to join, please sign up there. I consider the city seals/flag and city info boxes project part of the subproject now. If this is too bureaucratic, let me know by replying to this topic, and then I'll just keep discussing those things here. The city projects could eventually grow to bigger porportions and deserve their own talk page. Is there a way to make it have its own talk page? Following its link takes you here...
Ajbenj 12:02, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cities Subproject 

message: Surprised it wasn't covered here before; I've created M/V New Carissa, about our favorite beach landmark. --EngineerScotty 06:46, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice to see it! I was wondering when we'd have an article on that. Sarge Baldy 06:49, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, nice article! -Big Smooth 17:42, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've done some expansion on the article, including the use of Template:Infobox Ship, adding some additional data I found. Take a look!  I think we could get this to "good" article status pretty easily with some more work. -Big Smooth 17:44, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Why stop at "good" article status?  This looks like its on its way to FA. PDXblazers 23:57, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, that article is looking really nice. Sarge Baldy 01:05, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added article on New Carissa 

message: What, specifically, do you need photos of?  I have time this week and a good digital camera.  
I'll start with Deady Hall, Hayward Field, Deschutes Hall, Willamette Hall, Lillis Business Complex, and other buildings, plus the significant statues.
But any other suggestions would be nice.
Adam850 06:00, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice! Maybe you can get a shot of the the Knight Library as well? It has its own separate article, so it could be used there as well (or if there just isn't room on the U of O page). And maybe a shot of the EMU? Sarge Baldy 08:26, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah, upload them to commons and just do all of them. The great thing with commons if you can keep images in repository, even if they're not being used. Also it lets the various languages of encyclopedias have more options for their articles. Sarge Baldy 23:16, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I'll do that later.  I have so far:
*Oregon Hall
*Onyx bridge Image:OnyxBridge.JPG
*Klamath Hall
*Agate Street Sign Image:UofOsign.JPG
*EmX Image:EugBRT.JPG 
*Some others.
Here's all of the photos I've uploaded.  
My battery died, but I'll try tomorrow.  
Can someone format/link to these for the U of O article and the EmX article?  I don't have a fast computer available now.
Adam850 02:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures of the University of Oregon 

message: Hope y'all don't mind that I added two new categories to the To-Do list: 'Review recent changes' and 'To split' (if you can think of better names, go ahead and edit).  The former is for articles that have recently undergone a major rewrite (or were just created) and should probably be sanity checked by someone else (I know that my contributions are often in need of sanity checks!).  The latter is to propose content that could be split out from a parent article into it's own new article.  In the case of the one I proposed, splitting Timberline Ski Area from Timberline Lodge National Historic Landmark, I think it would allow us to create an article more inline with a typical ski area article (with at least an infobox of all of the stats of interest to skiers/snowboarders), without overloading the nat'l monument article.  When I have some time, I might get around to doing that, unless there are any objections. EvilSuggestions 20:12, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the new categories are a great idea. I'm new to the project, though, so I don't know how well that's going to go with everyone else. I've already added something to the 'Review recent changes' section since I recently wrote an article for the project. As for the proposed Timberline Lodge National Historic Landmark, I don't know much about the way ski area articles are written so I wouldn't be able to offer a good opinion on whether it should be split to offer seperate info on the ski area or not. It doesn't sound too unreasonable, though. --Yellow Archer 22:03, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New categories on To-Do list

message: Someone created this article.  I wikified it, made it a bit more NPOV, and added it to the WikiProject.  The article is still very much a stub; there is lots of additional info which could be stated about the group and it's impact on Oregon politics.  --EngineerScotty 06:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Oregon Citizens Alliance]] 

message: I have heard back from Gresham about use of their city seal, which was declined. So I decided to make a list of cities and other governments who don't want us to use their logos on the city subproject page. That we won't get into trouble. We ought to start going in person to the cities in question and making the request, especially for the batch of reluctant cities we've run into lately. An in-person request can yeild interesting information, as did my meeting with a member of the Beaverton City Council with their City Recorder present. 
Remember to ask if you can reproduce the logo for educational purposes! Even if you can't draw or use Photoshop, I and other people can! Just tell us where online the image is, and we can make it, so long as we have permission to do so. 
It may also be the case that since a seal or logo is used educationally on Wikipedia to demonstrate the entity in question, that it'd be fair use even if they don't give permission. I'm not too keen on trying that yet unless several people can tell us that this is OK, and most importantly, we can't get sued!
I can cover the Portland area to some extent, when it comes to actually showing up at City Hall in person to make requests. Anywhere else, I can not easily get to. Any volunteers for other parts of the state? Ajbenj 22:46, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would hesitate to make "educational use only" asks.  Educational use images have been deemed by User:Jimbo Wales as a non-free license, and so are ineligible for inclusion on Wikipedia.  the iBook of the Revolution 07:20, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Goverrnment logos

message: Please move this discussion if it should go somewhere else.
I am having a discussion with someone about inclusion of Chamber of Commerce links in the external link subsection of articles here. Does anyone have an opinion on linking to Chamber of Commerce websites in light of the general ban on linking to commercial sites? Thanks! Katr67 15:53, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This came up again, and I was directed to this discussion from WikiProject Spam, in case anyone is interested. Katr67 00:25, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chamber of Commerce links 

message: I've worked for the past month to update Portal:United States and keep it better maintained.  Though, I think the Portal:United States would be even better with broader participation.  One way to do that is instead of choosing the "selected article" myself each week, if others would nominate articles and help make decisions.  (same goes for pictures, though these are stocked up through July 29)  If there is anything related to Oregon (or anything else related to the U.S. - culture, music, literature, geography, history, politics, ...), please nominate.   I'd also like people to weigh in on the nominations and help select what should be featured. Thanks. --Aude (talk contribs) 23:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nominate articles for [[Portal:United States]]

message: Hello, everybody.  I am the bozo who just recently created the new subcategories in the "People from Oregon" category.  I thought that some of you might want to know why they were created, and why they often have so few pages in them.  
The majority of the states have "People from [state]" categories which have at least 200 entries, sometimes over 1,000.  This is clearly an unworkably large number for anyone wishing to use the category for research purposes.  In 8th grade in Rapid City, South Dakota, the social studies class asked us to write, over the course of the year, reports on two or three people who were or had been residents of the city.  Because of that, I have reason to believe that they could be used and probably are used for research purposes.  To make such research easier, I looked at the list of metropolitan statistical areas and basically entered in one new category for each metropolitan statistical area.  
I know that many of these categories might well be, in the eyes of you who know more about the cities in question much better than I do, misnamed or otherwise faulty.  I apologize for any mistakes I may have made along those lines, and I would welcome any corrections, including deletion, that any of the rest of you might choose to make.  With that in mind, I have also generally populated the categories with only one or two names, to ease in the process of deletion or renaming.
I thought you all should know why these categories were created, and felt some degree of responsibility for letting your know.  I wish you all the greatest good fortune in making the coverage of your state in Wikipedia of the greatest scope and quality possible, and I hope that I haven't annoyed too many of you by my recent actions.  Badbilltucker 13:35, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a question.  What classifies someoneone as being "from" an area?  Just being born there?  Living there for a certain amount of time?  Currently residing there?  We should make this clear in the category page.  Personally I'd say all three of those could be justification for adding a "people from ..." category. VegaDark 20:24, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Thanks for explaining. I was a little puzzled about why the only person in the Salem category was a Playboy model (not that there's anything wrong with that...). On the qualification for inclusion question, I agree that any of the above three are legitimate. Those are the parameters I've used to add people to the section in the Eugene article. Katr67 20:57, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Does that mean all the people in List of Oregon State University people should be in :Category:People from Corvallis, Oregon and all people in List of University of Oregon people should be in :Category:People from Eugene, Oregon?  Perhaps we should make a subcategory for OSU/UO alumni inside the city category and simply list them in that, and only list people who didn't attened those universities but are still associated with the city in the main category.  Then that also brings up the question of university faculty...maybe make :Category:Oregon State University people and have alumni and faculty in seperate subcategories inside that...and maybe put the preexisting categories like :Category:Oregon State Beavers football players as a subcategory of alumni...yes, my brain hurts now. VegaDark 03:08, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New "People from [city]" Categories 

message: Lately I've been working through the Oregon Government stuff, mostly the Governors pages.
List of Governors of Oregon has been through some serious tweaking. I plan on adding a few more pics from existing wiki pages. I have added some articles that were redlinked there, and am working on the last few governors who don't have any articles.
If someone could take a picture (or find a Wiki copyright-friendly image) of the Governor's office at the Capitol and Mahonia Hall (Governor's Mansion) to add there, that'd be GREAT! Also, do the Governor, Senate, and House have seals? 
 
The Oregon State Senate and Oregon House of Representatives now have lists of members of the last legislative session, following closely to articles I have found on other state legislative pages. Anyone know of anything that may improve those articles, please add it there!
Ajbenj 16:30, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Governor and Legislature articles 

message: Had a go at PGE Park; though there is more work to be done.  Some better sources can be added, and some info about the financial difficulties that arose after the 2001 renovation.  --EngineerScotty 23:37, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PGE Park 

message: I added the article Spirit Mountain Casino; please see discussion on Wikipedia talk:Wikiproject Oregon/to do. --EngineerScotty 05:09, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I redirected Wikipedia:Wikiproject Oregon/to do to Wikipedia:WikiProject Oregon/to do.  I will move your not from the former talk page to the latter.  Cacophony 06:45, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added [[Spirit Mountain Casino]] 

message: I added an article on Bull Mountain, Oregon.  I did include some material on the present annexation/incorporation fight with Tigard, which the rest of you tried to check.  I tried to maintain NPOV (I don't live in either Bull Mountain or Tigard, and have no dog in this proverbial fight), but the article could probably stand some improvement.
Have at it...  
--EngineerScotty 06:13, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added article on [[Bull Mountain, Oregon]] 

message: With the Great Oregon Steam-Up this weekend, I was rather surprised to find that Wikipedia lacked an article on one of the coolest museums in the state, Antique Powerland in Brooks.  I have since rectified that situation.  This article is well-sourced, I'll be adding photos later--perhaps we can make this one a good article.  --EngineerScotty 03:19, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added article on [[Antique Powerland]] 

message: discussion page at Wikipedia:Peer review/New Carissa‎.  I'd like to move this to FAC one day.  Also, I've cleaned up the opening section, to contain a more accurate rendition of what happened prior to the wreck.  --EngineerScotty 20:01, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Carissa up for peer review 

message: I'm trying to improve Oregon Coast Aquarium, which, until a few minutes ago, consisted of one sentence.  However, I don't have any pictures and can't find any good web links on the history of the aquarium.  If anyone can help, please do. PDXblazers 05:40, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing [[Oregon Coast Aquarium]] 

message: For anyone interested, Linus Pauling was removed as a featured article.  I'm not really interested enough in the subject to try to bring it back to FA, but thought someone else may be. PDXblazers 05:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Linus Pauling]] FARC'd 

message: Just in time for the anouncement that state managed to collect $1 billion worth of taxes on poor math skills last year.  :)  With snarky remarks like that, please check it for NPOV and such.  Now off to download the logo... --EngineerScotty 16:47, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added [[Oregon Lottery]] 

message: Flipped a coin to see who gets written first, Lovejoy won this time.  :)  Note that the "to-do" box said William Pettygrove, but his full name is Francis W. Pettygrove.  Article is at Francis, and William is a redirect.  
Also found a picture online (certainly in the public domain; I doubt many photos from the 1800s are still copyrighted), of Pettygrove.  Haven't found any of Lovejoy.
--EngineerScotty 05:54, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Created articles on [[Asa Lovejoy]] and [[Francis Pettygrove]] 

message: There was a bit of confusion on the article of Antelope, Oregon, confusing Antelope with Rajneeshpuram (suggesting they were the same place).  I fixed that, and wrote a separate article on Rajneeshpuram.  --EngineerScotty 17:30, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Created [[Rajneeshpuram]] 

message: An article about the Lewis and Clark expo exists, at the above.  It's off to a good start, well-written and well-sourced (though the prose is so well-written that it might be a copyvio, though google revealed nothing); but only covers the planning.  It doesn't discuss the execution of the fair or its after-effects; there's a lot to write about there.
--EngineerScotty 19:56, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Found [[Lewis and Clark Centennial Exposition]]

message: Perhaps we need a list of Oregon wineries in sections by appellation? There is already a :Category:Oregon wineries, but it's not very populated. Of course we will have to watch for making any of it sound like an advert... Katr67 14:31, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just crossposted this suggestion over on WikiProject Wine's talk page, to try to solicit some help from those kind folks.  I might chip in later when I have some free time. --EvilSuggestions 18:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just started a draft article on our wine industry.  It isn't ready for being put in the main article space, so it's currently at Wikipedia:WikiProject Oregon/Oregon wine; it currently contains a lot of redlinks which we ought to either write articles on, or remove/delink.  (Or maybe leave them; occasional redlinks don't bother me).  Feel free to have a go at it; when it gets good enough (no TBD sections, in particular), move it to the main article space.  This isn't a topic I know that much about (but there are lots of web resources), so some help would be greatly appreciated!  --EngineerScotty 05:31, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Thanks for making the crosspost. I don't know much about wine either (I'm mostly a beer drinker), but it comes up in a lot of the city and county articles, so it will be good to have a wine article to link to. Speaking of beer, I added Oregon beer and breweries to WikiProject Oregon. It could use some work. Katr67 18:39, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oregon Wineries 

message: The article New Carissa is a FAC.  Comments are at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/New Carissa. --EngineerScotty 22:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure I'm qualified to comment on the FA status (though I can certainly compare it to the FA criteria), but I've been meaning to give the article a going over since you put it up for peer review, so I'll try to get around to that today. Looks great so far though--good job! Katr67 22:43, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Congrats on the article being approved! I still need to look over the last couple sections, be sure to check in and make sure I don't do anything stupid. Katr67 22:43, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Woohoo! Congrats to everyone who contributed to this article, especially EngineerScotty who gave it a great start and did a ton of excellent work on it (improving the prose, copy editing, researching, and tirelessly tweaking it to FA standards).  I hope WikiProject Oregon can keep this up! -Big Smooth 23:08, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Thanks!  I'm not the only one who worked on the article; both of you two put in a lot of time and effort; both adding content to the article, and cleaning up my frequient mispelings and tyops.  :)  Speaking of which, I found cites for the oil tanker info--turns out Portland does have a small refinery or two, and 200,000 gallons were spilled by an oil tanker in the Columbia back in 1984.  (Nowadays, I suspect that the modern supertankers which are used these days are too big to navigate the Columbia; but crude still arrives here by pipeline.  This last bit of speculation is not in the article, though...) --EngineerScotty 23:18, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[New Carissa]] listed as [[WP:FAC|feature article candidate]] 

message: I added this to the to-do list since, according to its website: "Coos Bay is the largest deep-draft coastal harbor between San Francisco Bay and Puget Sound, and is Oregon's second busiest maritime commerce center", and there is an article on Port of Portland. Seems notable to me, especially in light of all the New Carissa activity. Katr67 17:48, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, thanks to EngineerScotty I made a really stubby stub. Surely we have a shipping fan on board who would love to expand it. :) Katr67 18:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Port of Coos Bay]] 

message: Added a stub for Shy Huntington, UO football player and coach who led the team to two rose bowls.  If someone knows of Huntington's exploits after UO, or can find a photo, please contribute. PDXblazers 06:40, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Shy Huntington]] 

message: Just ran across an article on the Nisqually earthquake of 2001 in Washington, and thought the 1993 Scotts Mills quake (the largest in Oregon at the time) would also make a good article. Here's some info: http://www.ess.washington.edu/SEIS/EQ_Special/pnwtectonics.html (scroll all the way to the bottom). And: http://www.co.clackamas.or.us/emergency/earthquake.htm (has photo showing damage in Molalla). Katr67 02:18, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Scotts Mills earthquake]] 

message: I made a stub article for this. I plan to look for any existing redlinks to state agencies and start there. There's a gazillion state agencies--not sure they all need their own articles. If anyone runs across a stray government agency article, be sure to add it (first making sure it matches the agency's official title, if you don't mind.) Thanks! Katr67 01:55, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Government of Oregon]] 

message: for folks to work on.  Wikipedia:WikiProject Oregon/History of Oregon, which will eventually become History of Oregon.  I'm not a history buff, so lots of help is needed to do this.  This article is a necessity for Oregon to become a FAC; the current history section in Oregon needs a bit of work. --EngineerScotty 00:28, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another draft article 

message: Found this existing article, added it to the WP.  Needs lots of cleanup and wikification.  I'm off to bed now. :) --EngineerScotty 06:49, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Oregon tax revolt]] 

message: Wanted to let you know that WP:BIOGRAPHY has added a "work group" called Politics and government, and so wanted to invite you to participate on any biography-type articles. The section for OR is here and if there's interest, we can beef it up to look like the newly-created Virginia one plange 05:35, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invite 

message: Currently, there exist two subcategories of :Category:Oregon, :Category:Government of Oregon and :Category:Politics of Oregon.  Right now, they are siblings.
I'm of the belief that Politics of Oregon should be made a subcat of Government.  Currently, there are several articles under government that might be better placed under politics; such as articles on political parties and such.
Thoughts?  --EngineerScotty 01:28, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked at the other states and I don't think Politics should be made a subcat of Government, especially because each is already a subcat of :Category:Politics of the United States by state and :Category:State governments of the United States respectively. The stuff on parties should definitely be moved to Politics. Politics is underpopulated but I bet there are several articles that could go in there. Oregon Bottle Bill comes to mind, though it is also in :Category:Oregon law, which is also underpopulated. I know there are several articles on various ballot measures that can go in there. You might want to ask Wikipedia:WikiProject United States--it seems like the cats are pretty standarized, or at least they are trying to get them that way. Katr67 01:49, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As a sidenote, I added all of the Supreme Court cases that I know relate to Oregon to :Category:Oregon law, although this is way out of my area of expertise so I could have missed a bunch of them. -Big Smooth 14:46, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm, Postdlf asked me to remove those cases from the category; apparently the state law categories are only for specific laws, not a more general listing of law-related articles relating to the state.  So, given that we already have :Category:Oregon Ballot Measures, :Category:Oregon law will probably always be underpopulated. -Big Smooth 19:06, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw that discussion. I can see that another category would be useful. I'm marginally involved with the creation of Oregon law, but I'm no legal expert--I don't really know how it should be organized. Let's keep up a dialogue with Postdlf--he seems to know what he is doing... Katr67 19:30, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Politics and Government 

message: I mentioned this on the transportation subproject page, but in case anybody missed it:
Northenglish started up this WikiProject, so I thought I would promote it here. There's lots to do. Katr67 17:37, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Oregon State Highways]]