Talk:Cincinnati/Archive 2

message: I see in recent weeks that the names of several people who are often associated with Cincinnati have been removed from the list of "Famous Cincinnati Natives" because they were not in fact born in Cincinnati.  These include Neil Armstrong and Rosemary and Nick Clooney, all of whom have been associated with the Cincinnati area in some reasonable fashion.  It seems to me that the important thing is not whether they were born in Cincinnati, but whether they have a clear association with the city or the region.
For example, I see that Harriet Beecher Stowe is still listed under this heading, and I've not seen an effort to remove her while I've been watching.  But the Wiki article on her clearly states that she was "born in Litchfield, Connecticut and raised primarily in Hartford."
So I am going to change the section title to "Famous Cincinnatians" with the intention that it list people with a clear connection to the city or the Metro area, whether or not they were born there.
Pzavon 13:37, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous Cincinnati Natives ==> Famous Cincinnatians 

message: I am a significant editor of Louisville, Kentucky and related articles, and I have to say I'm a bit appalled at all the lists in this article that could easily be spun off into separate articles.  Look at List of attractions and events in Louisville and List of famous Louisvillians for guidance. —  Stevie is the man!  Talk | Work 17:57, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What's with all these lists?

message: Hello, Im Horatius of it.wiki. I've been told that the staute of Cincinnatus (this one) :Image:Cincinnatus statue.jpg has been geven to the Town by Mussolini, the dictator? Thanks for any detail in my Discussion-page here: User Horatius on it.wiki. Vale! --151.37.228.204 09:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mussolini gave the statue to the city September 30, 1931.  Of course, the city is named after the Society of the Cincinnati and not Cincinnatus. Peyna 12:24, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a large mural honoring Cincinnatus(see photo) on the side of the Brotherhood Building in Cincinnati.-Crunchy Numbers 21:09, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Present ? 

message: Would it be acceptable to just have this as Cincinnati rather than as Cincinnati, Ohio? There doesn't seem to be any other towns named Cincinnati, "Cincinnati" already links to hundreds of articles, and it's a large enough city it could merit it. Granted there is the Society of the Cincinnati, but if someone wants that when typing Cincinnati they'll just end up here as is.--T. Anthony 08:13, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The proper city naming convention dictates that it be in the City Name, State format. The most common City Name can redirect to the convention.  Seicer (talk) (contribs) 12:15, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Does this only work in the US or is it true of other countries as well? Tapachula just goes to Tapachula not Tapachula, Chiapas--T. Anthony 12:22, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Cincinnati, Iowa is already disambig'd at the top of this page. Peyna 15:40, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Move question

message: On 24 October, changes by 66.238.151.200 moved the Demographics section from referencing the 2003 Census to referencing the 2005 Census.  Since the Census is only condusted in ten year intervals and was last done in 2000, this is not possible.  Either this section has spurious data or it is referencing Census estimates - quite a different thing from the Census itself.  Can someone look into this and provide to proper correction?   I lack the time to do so. Pzavon 01:48, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographics issues 

message: There is a survey in progress at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements) to determine if there is consensus on a proposed change to the U.S. city naming conventions to be consistent with other countries, in particular Canada. 
:This proposal would allow for this article to be located at Cincinnati instead of Cincinnati, Ohio, bringing articles for American cities into line with articles for cities such as Paris and Toronto.--DaveOinSF 16:56, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: However the proposal would allow U.S. cities to be inconsistent with the vast majority of other U.S. cities and towns, which (with a few exceptions) all use the "city, state" convention. -Will Beback 23:42, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey on proposal to make U.S. city naming guidelines consistent with others countries

message: Not a big deal, but... I've only lived in the area for three years, and I have to say that I've never heard the area referred to as "Greater Cincinnati" in the media or in common reference.  Each area, I've found, has a strong local identity (IN or Northern Kentucky, or even the suburbs in OH) and does not refer to the area in a Cincinnati-centric way.  When needed, the common term (if you can call it a term) among residents is "the Cincinnati area."  Among the local media, when aiming for a slightly broader approach, I hear Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky often, or when referring to the whole metro area one hears the term "the Tri-State" almost exclusively.
I know that there are several metro areas in the US that are referred to in this way, so this may not be feasible to use.  I would at least advocate re-wording the entry to avoid saying the entire area is called anything and just delete the phrase "commonly called Greater Cincinnati" as it is definetely not true that's it's common, and not necessary to the point being made that the metro area is much larger than the central city's popuation would lead one to expect). CincyJ 07:47, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commonly called Greater Cincinnati 

message: I suggest removing this line:
:Native Cincinnatians are often heard saying, "if you don't like the weather in Cincinnati, just wait half an hour."
The line currently has  attached to it, but I can confirm that Cincinnatians do say something to that effect (maybe varying the wait time), and I think you'd be able to find references to that phrase in local media. As much as it surprises me, though, it isn't at all unique to Cincinnati.  Especially convincing is the quote from Mark Twain regarding New England weather.
 – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 19:02, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would have to agree with Minh Nguyễn. As a lifelong resident of Cincinnati, I have experienced the local weather phenomena firsthand. In addition, many out-of-towners from around the country whom I have known have remarked on its unpredictability and seemingly random nature. I think it deserves some consideration. 70.62.16.218 03:00, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I left Cincinnati some years ago (lived there mostly in the 1950s and 1960s), but my siblings still live there.  The weather in Cincinnati is no less predictable than that in most of the rest of the country.  An odd-ball storm comes along and everyone talks of unpredicatable weather, but that (the storm and the talk) happens everywhere.  Cincinnati is not special in this regard.  Pzavon 16:05, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

text:  I would hardly see how that is verifiable or even come from a reliable source. Cinci is no different, weather-wise, than other major cities.  Seicer (talk) (contribs) 16:24, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

text: CK, I was asking that the line be removed. Lots of places have a similar saying, so it's not notable enough for this article. – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 07:00, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  If you don't like the weather... 

message: the last sentence under the economy subheading has a typo.  one stat is for per fortune 1000 co's and the other is for fortune 500 co's.  the sentence states two different stats for fortune 500's. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.27.234.22 (talk) 04:05, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  statistic needs correction