Talk:Paul McCartney/Archive 1

message: can you tell me what Category:Paul McCartney brings to the Paul McCartney article that the Paul McCartney article doesn't already provide itself? Kingturtle 18:28, 30 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Why Category

message: Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey is not a Wings song. It should be credited as Paul and Linda McCartney. It appears on thier album entitled Ram.
: Please sign your comments. --Mal 09:47, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: error

message: paul mccartney was a hero of the 70s bcause after the band broke up and John Lennon died (was murderd by a complete nut job) and after george died of cancer, or even after linda McCartney died he still wrote songes and still composed albums.
: Please sign your comments. --Mal 09:47, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: hero

message: I agree with this entry, by and large, and consider it well-written, but it does seem a little too positive about McCartney's later music. It mightn't hurt to point out that his solo material is not remotely as well-regarded as his work with The Beatles. Since it notes (accurately, I think) Lennon's decline in productivity and influence in the later Beatles years, it mightn't hurt to mention how McCartney's work of a few years later doesn't appear to have aged well. --DR
I am sorry to have to disagree with you about this. Yes McCartney was great in the 1960s, but you should also remember that for kids growing up in the 70s rather than the 60s, Paul's solo stuff was fantastic. Please do not disregard stuff like 'Band on the run', 'My Love', and the poppier Wings 70s output. Paul always had a pop sensibility that appealed to me during the 70s. In fact there is not one song that I can say that I really dislike (other than Mull of Kintyre). There are so may I could mention that I still really love. You must remember that an individual's perception of songs will be subjective, but are often bound up with when they were growing up and getting into music for the first time. For me, Paul and Wings were up there with the best, and I really get tired of crtics saying he wasn't as good in his solo career. For me, he was!
: Please sign your comments. --Mal 09:47, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I grew up in the 70s, and McCartney to me was a pop star who made Mull of Kintyre (and later Say Say Say/Ebony and Ivory). When I heard Mull of Kintyre (and really liked it, not least because my grandfather played bagpipes), I didn't know he was an ex-Beatle. I think he hasn't made a good album (apart from The Fireman/live stuff) since Flowers In The Dirt though!! None of which has any relevance to the article, of course :) We should just tell it as it is. He did this, this and this, and critical and public reaction was this, this and this. --kingboyk 09:53, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  While I like half of post-Beatles McCartney stuff, and haven't heard the other half, I don't think its this encyclopedia's place to place critical judgement on his work - either way. For a start, its a matter of opinion. I wouldn't worry too much about this but, if its overly positive of this period - especially to the detriment of the earlier stuff - than I'd say fix it. --Mal 10:33, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Too positive about later music

message: Removed the line "*Was actually the only Beatle to graduate from Britain's equivalent of high-school; he majored in Art." - in the United Kingdom you don't "major" in anything - you go to secondary school, study a variety of subjects (all of equal importance) and sit exams - you don't graduate from secondary school, only from university. At the end of secondary education you should have a selection of pass certificates, there is no such thing as a "major". As McCartney is English I don't see why his education should be Americanised. Or why the writer assumed that everyone reading this is from North America.
: Please sign your comments. --Mal 09:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: No "major" in Britain

message: What is this subsection about please..? --Mal 09:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: british no;1

message: How on Earth could the description of the "McCartney" album mention Meat Loaf and his cover of "Hot as Sun" and not mention "Maybe I'm Amazed"? Wow. --Stevestrange 01:25, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This was part of the 20:51, 9 October 2005 172.203.51.60 vandalism mentioned below. It's now been restored. Wasted Time R 13:36, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Album Descriptions are poor

message: On 22:35, 22 October 2005 anon 24.22.58.112 introduced a large, unwikified text segment on Wings that reads like an almost certain copyright violation (it's part IV of some larger work and has the tone of being written for something other than an encyclopedia, it was the only edit this anon ever did, etc.). Even if it was legit, which I highly doubt, it belongs in the Wings (band) article, not here. I've reverted this whole insertion to the previous short section that refers to the Wings article. Wasted Time R 12:13, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Large Wings probable copyvio removed

message: This whole section had been removed in a 20:51, 9 October 2005 vandalism by 172.203.51.60, who committed other vandalisms at the same time that I will repair. Geez, this article really fell apart.... Wasted Time R 13:26, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Role in The Beatles section restored

message: It would be good to somewhere mention that Paul is left-handed and that he played bass guitar for the Beatles. Just a thought.
:That he was an influential bassist is now mentioned in the intro, and that he was bassist for the Beatles is mentioned at the start of the Beatles section. That he was left-handed is mentioned fairly early in the Beatles section and again at the end of the Trivia section. Are these mentions not sufficient? Wasted Time R 12:05, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Left-handed, instruments

message: an anon ip changed the age in this sentence to 17 (I don't know which is correct so please can someone more knowledgable check it): "and John Lennon, whose mother died when John was 18." Arniep 13:42, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I ducked it, by saying "when John was also a teenager." The Paul article shouldn't have to worry about the precise details of John's life. Wasted Time R 14:03, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Change

message: I am struck by the lack of references in this article. The information in this article needs to have documented sources, IMO. 67.177.215.10 19:50, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: This article twice references the song 'Here Today' as a eulogy to John Lennon. In fact PM has denied that it was written for John, adding 'If that's what people want to think, that's fine.' I think we should take his word for it or at least mention his denial. Tripper 15:28, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Here Today'

message: Ok. I might be a bit obsessive, rock music being my forte, but Paul McCartney was not left handed. He was right handed. He found Italic textplaying the guitarItalic text difficult with his right hand, but he did everything else right handed. I haven't made a change to the page, but I think I might, because in my mind this is a large error, and somebody ought to correct it. If not me, then at least somebody may agree. . .
I just changed it 15 minutes ago but it was changed back, apparently. I've seen him sign autographs a million times, he is right handed.
From every article Ive read he is left handed...in the early days he couldn't afford a left handed guitar so he used a normal one, then when the whole beatlemania started he got a free left handed bass. That's just from what I've read. (Revo 07:33, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The pictures from Hamburg show him playing left handed rhythm guitar. As he was using an acoustic guitar with a pickup and the bass he then purchased was a Hofner (so called) violin type, they were as easily played left or right handed once restrung (the bodyshape being duplicated top and bottom). BTW Jimi Hendrix managed to play his Strat "upside down", so talent usually gets round these things!LessHeard vanU 19:56, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Left Handed???!!!!!!!

message: Was "Mary Mohin McCartney" his mother's full name? I have never seen the middle name shown anywhere before but perhaps it just isn't usually cited.
I thought that Jane Asher was his fiancée. Am I right? DavidFarmbrough 12:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mother Mary and Jane Asher

message: Why didn't he sing BLACKBIRD at the Grammys (for Coretta Scott King)? Would've had far more meaning than yesterday or fine line. Seems that once again, Sir Mc has gone for the crowd-pleasing route...
* WHOEVER YOU ARE PLEASE START SIGNING YOUR COMMENTS!--199.224.81.132 23:57, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Grammys 2006

message: Although I believe McCartney is a complete moron for opposing the seal hunt in Canada, somebody should write about it in his article. --Devahn58 04:28, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Canadian Seal Hunt

message: Devahn 58,
I would not consider McCartney as a moron but (as I have seen in the past) as a misinformed celebrity that is used by certain groups to justify a lie that as been circulating for the past 20 years. The pups (as seen on the newspapers headlines) haven't been hunted for the last twenty years but it makes a better picture! The hunt brings an economy boost to our region and is considered as one of the most awaited activity that is compared to our lobster season.
The market is not only for China or other countries, the meat is considered as a delicacy here at Iles de la Madeleine, the fur and byproducts (omega 3) are opening new markets that are giving jobs to people on the Island. I once was against this type of hunting, but when I found out how it was misrepresented by some factions who hired a misguided fellow to make that gruesome picture (killing of a pup in the 70’s) I started to look for the facts The fisheries and aquaculture management as a site that describes sealing in Canada. As the saying goes here, “aux Iles c’est pas pareil”.
http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/seal-phoque/reports-rapports/forum-colloque2002/forum-colloque2002_e.htm
and http://www.dfo-mpo.gc.ca/media/infomedia/2005/im01_e.htm
--Pdoucet41 22:38, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And I ""hate"" people who shout and don't sign their messages. McCartney's opposition to the seal hunt needs to be documented in a NPOV, matter of fact way, on that we agree. --kingboyk 09:05, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Seal Hunt

message: There's no way a section on the seal hunt should be this long: it takes up almost a third of his entry when other, much more major events in his life (wife's death) merit a couple of sentences. The seal hunt is not even a major aspect of McCartney's activist history: his anti-landmines campaign, for example, has gone on much longer, as has his involvement with PETA, cancer charities, music education, etc. In terms of headlines, his pro-Irish stance in the 70's and anti-Thatcher stance in the 80's also generated more controversy at the time. If anything activist related deserves its own section it would be his founding of LIPA (Liverpool Institute of the Performing Arts), but even that would be overkill if it was this long. The seal hunt section should be transferred to the seal hunt entry and be reduced to one sentence in this entry. 12.171.23.34Angel
:As both a Beatles fan and a Newfoundlander, McCartney is IMO being a tool. However, I agree that it should be deleted or moved. Not only is it irrelevant, but it also isn't NPOV at all. CWMcGee 23:04, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Seal hunt

message: I was wondering why this 'fact' was included. It seems slightly leaning toward POV to me, and I'd personally need convincing that it has anything to do with Paul McCartney. For example, did alleged corruption affect Paul McCartney or impact his use of drugs or the consequences? Did the allegations of DS corruption affect any of this? If not, then I suggest the allegation is removed from the article. --Mal 07:32, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Watch Anthology, I seem to recall George telling a story about this issue? Anyway, I already toned it down to a "see also" (Norman Pilcher, the famous rock-star-raiding drug squad detective who got nicked for purjory). --kingboyk 09:04, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: DS Corruption?

message: I added a bit in the 2000's section about an upcoming CD. If you didn't know about it, it does exist, I helped record it! Sorry, forgot to login. That IP is actually me - User:simongoldring
:Information here needs to be verifiable, and we're in no rush to document the newest happenings - an enyclopedia is built to last :) Ordinarily first hand accounts shouldn't be added. But, I can see there's a few Google hits already so I've left it in place. Could you link King's College to the correct college of that name and find a link for St Martins? Is it Saint Martins College of Art and Design? --kingboyk 10:34, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ecce Cor Meum

message: I support restoring the parenthetical pointing out that he's known as Paul. Alternatively, perhaps make the formalism parenthetical?: "Paul McCartney (born June 18, 1942; formally known as Sir James Paul McCartney, MBE or sometimes Sir Paul) " ... That places the emphasis where it belongs. As Steve says, hardly anyone knows him as Sir. ++Lar: t/c 14:27, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed that the link to Macca's MBE said "Order of the British Empire", which of course is shortened to OBE (which is what I've changed it to). Macca was a MBE - Member of the British Empire - but he returned this honour, along with the rest of The Beatles, in the 60's. I'm truthfully not certain what "honours" he has, since it isn't a subject I have any interest in.LessHeard vanU 21:05, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: George Harrison (R.I.P.) used to phone his house and ask if "his holiness" was in. (True) --andreasegde 04:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sir James vs. Paul

message: There's been a few edits back and forth between myself and an IP over how to word the section about Lennon/McCartney and McCartney's more notable songs. I'm a bit edited out and would welcome a 3rd party review/edit. --kingboyk 23:44, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: got some diffs? I don't know anything though. ++Lar: t/c 00:17, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: songwriting and notable songs

message: Two of my editing tasks today were supposed to be writing a new section in The KLF article, and reworking the intro to this one. I find a  on The KLF and somebody already doing it, and an anon IP has redone the intro here! :-) "Sir James Paul McCartney, MBE Kt., known simply as Paul McCartney," pretty much covers it per the Manual of Style. I might remove "simply" though. --kingboyk 17:17, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No. He is a Knight bachelor which has no post-nominals. So He is not ...Kt. - Kittybrewster 13:34, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Change to intro

message: I seem to recall that Macca was promoting a "Buddy Holly" day during the 90's. I don't know what happened there, but I am pretty sure that he purchased the Holly publishing rights. I think this could be included in the article.LessHeard vanU 19:39, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, MPL owns those rights. --kingboyk 18:24, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As a McCartney/Buddy Holly link might be too esoteric a subject for anything more than a stub (at the moment), is it known what other artists MPL owns the publishing rights to? A listing may give an indication of McCartneys favoured music style(s) and/or his general business acumen in acquiring them.LessHeard vanU 19:13, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure the info is out there yes (and it's a pretty extensive collection from the early days of rock and roll, iirc). I'd certainly be interested in reading more about it (and hence it follows I'm not the guy to be writing it!). If you can't do it yourself I suggest adding it to the "to expand" section on the WikiProject todo list. --kingboyk 19:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it should be on the todo list. I am not the one to do it, either.LessHeard vanU 20:14, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Buddy Holly

message: You'd be hard pushed to find a quote from Paul McCartney saying that he supported Everton, or in fact any of the Beatles saying they favoured any team at all. None of the Beatles were part of the 60s explosion of football in Liverpool, being as they were part of the 'Art Set' with no interest in sport at all. If you google McCartney and Everton it just self references back to Wikipedia.
:It was news to me that Macca supported Everton; I was not aware of any band member expressing a preference, which would be quite sensible if they were not to alienate a section of their local audience. I do remember some 60's newsclips of The Kop adapting Beatle songs (in particular She Loves You as We Love You) as terrace chants, but I think that was a BBC "Those lovable Scousers" type thing. ps. Please sign your talk contributions, fanx ta-ra!LessHeard vanU 12:55, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Read his "early years", and you will find out that he used to live in the Everton area of Liverpool for a short time. --andreasegde 04:43, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Everton Football Club

message: I don't think 'Eleanor Rigby' should be used an an example of a song generally attributed to McCartney alone. In Paul McCartney: Many Years From Now", Barry Miles writes (pp. 276-277) that there are only two songs on which John and Paul significantly disagreed over authorship. Eleanor Rigby is one; John claimed to have authored a significant amount of the lyrics. (The other is "In My Life", where Paul claims to have written the melody.) In The Beatles Anthology (p. 208) John is quoted as saying (in 1980) that "'Eleanor Rigby' was Paul's baby, and I contributed to the education of the child". I think it's better if another song is cited. There are many to chose from; for the sake of argument I'll substitute "Penny Lane" since that was another hit single from around the same period and its authorship is generally undisputed. - Jim Butler 05:02, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, just noticed that Paul credits John with lyrical help on "Penny Lane" (Many Years From Now, p. 308). Substituting "Hello Goodbye". -Jim Butler 03:54, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

text: What's the point of disputing who wrote what? Some songs are one way, some the other. The two of them were not 100% exactly sure about who wrote what, so why bother? It's nit-picking. They both agreed (when they were teenagers) that all the songs should be Lennon-McCartney (or McCartney-Lennon :) --andreasegde 04:47, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Songs generally attributed to McCartney alone

message: I don't know the dates on the third son Paul is mentioned to have, but it does say that it was born in 1977 and died in 1976... which unless he was in cahoots with Michael J. Fox, is highly unlikely. Myfriendbrenn 23:56, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: James

message: Did Macca get the gong a second time? I note that all four members are listed in the (Members of) The Order of the British Empire page - but I know that they returned the medal/honour in the late 1960's. As such no other band member is noted as being an MBE, and nor should Macca unless he has been subsequently re-awarded it. As I previously mentioned, my lack of interest in the arcane British civil awards system means that I do not know what the situation regarding McCartney is. However, if he has not been re-Invested then he should not be given the title in the header.LessHeard vanU 14:36, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Only John sent his back. Paul has a Knighthood also (I don't know of which type). So, yes he is MBE as is Mr Richard Starkey. --kingboyk 15:43, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What about George? BTW - are you certain that it was only John? I know that he gave the most amusing coda for his reasons for returning it.LessHeard vanU 15:49, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well George too in the past tense... only John sent it back, 99% sure! :) Anyone? --kingboyk 16:17, 1 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Knight Bachelor - no postnominal Kittybrewster 22:18, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: MBE

message: Can someone check the news and ensure it is updated.(I'm having tea.)LessHeard vanU 17:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Errr, thanks for the info LessHeard, but that info was incorporated into the article about 6 hours before you told us. The wonder of wikipedia! --Oscarthecat  17:58, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  (grin) I had hoped it had, but I was in a rush...LessHeard vanU 19:46, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Macca/Mills to split!

message: User:70.23.135.95 vandalised the history section today.--Anchoress 23:09, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: As above.
:Can we just be clear. Do we mean "has he ever - whilst playing the bass - discussed singing?" or "has he ever discussed his ability to simultaneously sing and play the bass?". In both cases I believe the answer is almost certainly "yes". Hope that helps. --kingboyk 18:52, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He's discussed singing while playing bass? I've never heard that song. Was it any good?--Crestville 00:20, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Foolish Child! It was a concept* album released under the psuedonym of "The Ambulance Chaser" - a "hard trance/bulgarian folk" fusion opus featuring The K.F.C. on meaningful silences and Ringo Starr's All Stare Bland as "chirrupy things" - which was released only in Tonga and Watfords Furniture Emporium. Call yourself a Beetles fan? LessHeard vanU 10:57, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Has he ever discussed singing while playing bass?

message: Where did this name come from, and what does it mean? (unsigned query by User:72.153.182.96 19:51 13 June 2006)
:Short for McCartney, innit?--Crestville 19:55, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Beatles had nicknames for each other. McCartney was "Macca" (by far the most famous of the nicknames), Harrison was "Hazza", Lennon was "Lennie". Danthemankhan 03:10, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was revealed in the official 1989 McCartney World Tour booklet, and here is a transcript of that page. Scroll down to "Nickname". These nicknames were used back in the olden days, probably years before Ringo joined, but their use (especially "Macca") would continue on for quite some time. In fact, you can hear Lennon say "are you ready, Macca?" on the Anthology version of "You've Got to Hide Your Love Away". Danthemankhan 02:58, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What is MACCA?

message: So...this seems like a pretty good article =) Any chance we could start the ball rolling on a peer review, maybe one day bump it up to FA-class? -MBlume 20:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Any responses from editors who have been involved in FA articles? LessHeard vanU 22:01, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's only got 3 references, and 5 inline citations, and they're quite "light" too (only 1 of the 3 refs is a book). There's a few URLs in there too, which should be converted to footnotes. I think at peer review a lot of people won't see past that problem, so I'd be looking at getting the article better referenced first. (Alternative approach, since peer reviews often don't get much of a response: nominate it immediately, say it's a large and major article and we'd like some feedback, and fix the referencing concurrently - moving to inline citations, preferably). WP:PR for peer review, WP:FAC for Featured Article Candidacy. Anyone can request a peer review (hint: I have 2 on the go at the moment so I won't be making a 3rd request just yet. Perhaps someone else would do it? :)) --kingboyk 09:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I so want not to be an admin (I am still enjoying the struggle with English as a language)! Is there any takers on kingboyks "request" to have the article nominated, and mentor any changes needed? It is likely that Paul McCartney is going to be a newsworthy item in a year or so's time (or less) - thus getting the article to FA status might be a good move. LessHeard vanU 23:45, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait, what happens in a year or so? -MBlume 00:28, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A divorce.LessHeard vanU 21:30, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, you had me kinda scared there, I was thinking along the same lines that the pope was newsworthy a year or so ago. -MBlume 21:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was that when kingboyk got the KLF article to FA status recently, he commented that it was more likely to be used if related events/subjects were in the news; thus a new sparkly Macca FA would likely be considered around the time any divorce was finalised. Since proceedings have commenced then a window of opportunity is likely to open in a short while. A bit mercenary, perhaps, but a consideration never the less.LessHeard vanU 21:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I reorganized the "Role in The Beatles' section and added the subsections because this part just didn't flow well, chronologically or otherwise. It jumped from Beatles bassist, to songwriting, to being Beatle Motivator, then to marriage with Linda and Heather (Heather didn't play a part in The Beatles, did she?), back to motivation, then to LSD, then back to motivation again, then to the Paul Is Dead hoax (with a NPOV endorsement of a book used as a reference in the main 'Paul Is Dead' article, which I removed because such a sentence shouldn't be here but in the 'Paul Is Dead' entry instead), then to the end of The Beatles. I also added some clarification to the McCartney/Eastman/Asher triangle and set out the timeline, but my prose isn't very good there (probably because I'm tired) and it needs another editor's touch. I still think these subsections need more work, too. IMHO, fixing this part of the entry will move the whole entry much closer to FA status. BaseballBaby 19:05, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Feature? Asessment? Peer Review?

message: HAPPY BIRTHDAY PAUL!!!!! WE ALL STILL LOVE YOU VERY MUCH!!!!! --Ian911299
:Irony is, his wife's left him. Happy B-Day Macca. Hope the "When I'm 64" joke doesn't get boring too fast.--Crestville 16:46, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: When he's 64

message: I notice in the opening paragraph it is stated that McCartney is 'the richest entertainer of all time'. While I myself think that is probably correct, I am wondering if it has ever been verified by a reputable source? There is no inline citation. Rdysn5 03:19, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. What are the three rules when buying a house? "Location, location, location", as they say. The three rules when editing? Citation............ --andreasegde 16:06, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Richest entertainer?

message: This may just be a personal beef, but songwriters are musicians. Singers are definitely musicians. Changing to singer, instrumentalist, and songwriter, if that's alright. -MBlume 20:13, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't disagree enough to edit, but would suggest that not all songwriters are musicians (those whose part of a songwriting team is lyrics may not be able to hold or play a note, but can write wonderfully, and I'm fairly sure that there was one "songwriter" used to hum his compositions to the band) and most popular singers have little in the way of formal training - it is a talent. Learning the techniques of playing an instrument, however, immediately makes one a musician (but not necessarily a good one). The term instrumentalist gives, in my view, the impression that his playing of an instrument is the focal point of his contribution to a track, when it is more usually his voice and songwriting. When performing as part of the backing with The Beatles he rarely, if ever, performed a "lead" part on any instrument - and it hasn't been common even as a solo artist or as leader of Wings. However, if everybody else is happy with the change then I don't feel it important enough to go and revert it.LessHeard vanU 20:37, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm willing to go back to musician if people want it. I don't really think the term instrumentalist gives any undue focus to his instrumental contributions since singer and songwriter are listed as well. I don't know, what's everyone think? -MBlume 17:34, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: singer/musician

message: I'm removing the statements about his wealth which I'd fact-tagged on 24 June. Any good sources on this? AFAIK Paul chooses not to comment on his net worth. cheers, Jim Butler(talk) 06:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Net worth

message: Regular editors of this article: Please note that you have unanswered suggestions at the peer review page. It's good form to thank the contributors and act on their suggestions. Perhaps a Todo list is needed? --kingboyk 17:41, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer review

message: I've failed the article for GA. It needs several copyedits, and some images need fair use rationales, but most of all, you need references. 7 footnotes and 3 references is nowhere near enough. Statements like, "Out of all The Beatles compositions, it is claimed only 27 were composed by both equally"; who claims this? Can you cite it?
I scanned your peer review, and most of the problems have been recognized there. The "Achievements, world records, and miscellania" section is really a trivia section, and if this is heading for GA or FA status it needs to go. Either delete the entries or incorporate them into the article. Good luck. -Dark Kubrick 07:52, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Failed GA nom

message: The co-writer was shown as George Martin. Maybe the Kellogg substitution is wiki-vandalism - introduced by an IP address rather than a registered user. - Kittybrewster 16:50, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was. --andreasegde 15:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Co-writer

message: To all those who continue with not believing that Paul McCartney is
left-handed take a look at the following proof:
1) On the inside centre fold of Paul McCartney’s McCartney LP it has a
photo of him using a hammer with his left hand.
2) On the poster that came with the Band On The Run LP it has two photos
of Paul McCartney writing with (yes, you guessed it) his left hand.
3) On the inner sleeve of the Tug Of War LP it has Paul McCartney sitting
writing with (once again) his left hand.
Why people continue to doubt Paul McCartney being left-handed is weird,
if not obsessive. I suppose next they’ll be claiming the photos are
back-to-front? Or maybe they are not of the real Paul McCartney? Peter Jensen 00:19, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have used a hammer with my left hand, and I am right handed - albeit with bruised fingers for a time!LessHeard vanU 00:27, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It all comes down to one simple question which will put this to rest once-and-for-all: Which hand does he masturbate with? That'll prove it - and now's the best time to ask him... :) --andreasegde 09:04, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

text: "stupity" - Doesn't that just kill you? Especially within context. :D LessHeard vanU 10:33, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Paul McCartney is LEFT-HANDED