Talk:Ink

message: In one place the article says "The Chinese inkstick is produced with a fish glue, whereas Japanese glue (膠 "nikawa") is from cow or stag.[6]" whereas elsewhere it says it is made with animal/hide glue. Although inconsistent I won't change it until I can confirm one or the other. LuKesi (talk) 04:35, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Chinese Ink

message: The modern applications section reaks of orignal research, and is pretty much un related to this article, which is about ink, not printers.   As such I have decided to be bold and remove the section.  If you want to add it back in please, make sure to find citations and keep it relevant to how ink is used today, maybe include ink in commercial printing.Lotu (talk) 05:46, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Modern Applications is just bashing Printer Companies

message: My research shows no truth to the claim that walnut ink was used by "old masters".  I make ink from pre-seventeenth century recipes as a hobby.  I have made multiple inquiries to the British Museum, Irish Museum, the Smithsonian and other such institutions.  So far all have replied that not only is there no proof of Walnut Ink being used but indeed that it would make a poor ink as it is not at all lightfast.
I am very interested in the sources used to come to the conclusion that Walnut Ink was used by "old masters".  Mostly because I would love for it to be true and to have a recipe to try and make.  Please let me know. Dave 02:13, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Walnut ink

message: What's that stuff? It's so shiny and sticky and iridescent.. I can't help but think it's a petroleum product.
:It most likely has many petroleum based ingredients. (the coloring definately being one of them) Caffeine927 (talk) 01:57, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern ballpoint pen ink 

message: The section states that : "A chemical... p-Anisidine... is very hazardous", however the MSDS sheet for p-Anisidine states 
PiAndWhippedCream 13:56, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The section also states that ink being harmless is a common misconception.. Uh.. I'm pretty sure most people think all ink is horribly poisonous, hence 'ink poisoning.' .. heck, I think a lot of people think pencils use lead and thermometers still use mercury, cuz they're always worrying about poisoning from those.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.122.63.142 (talk) 20:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problems with section "poisonous ink" 

message: What do you think about changing the definition here of "ink" to include powders, not just liquid.  Using a powder (ie toner) for the same purposes of ink is a very new thing, but I think it qualifies as "ink".  Frotz (talk) 05:50, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said on the Talk page for toner, I don't think toner qualifies as ink in the sense used in this article, and I don't think most technical people who work wiht toner would call it is ink.  Anyone else want to help resolve this?  Pzavon (talk) 23:44, 10 January 2008 (UTC)

text: For what it's worth, the OED doesn't support such a co-identification. Carl.bunderson (talk) 00:11, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

text: "Dry Ink" has been a marketing term for many years.  It is more accessible to non-technical purchasers and allows one term to encompass a variety of products including pure toner and products that incorporate toner with carrier in one cartridge.  Everyone I've encountered who is involved in the manufacture of the product calls the coloring agent encapuslated in plastic simply "toner".  It is the sales people, and those who need to talk to them, who use other terms  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pzavon (talk • contribs) 02:49, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  toner as ink 

message: There's nothing here on octopus ink.  What gives?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.157.201.12 (talk) 22:26, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is now an article on octopus and squid ink entitled Cephalopod ink K-22-22 (talk) 15:06, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Crucial Omission

message: Sumi ink -  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.243.106.82 (talk) 23:20, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Another Omission

message: please let me know that a paper writeen before 50 years and written before 2 years  can be detected and  if so  whats the tequnique used for detecting ? and also want to know more about the theory of the same .......  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.95.31.60 (talk) 10:32, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  waering of ink ? 

message: Opening words of the article say: 
::Ink is a liquid.
Okay, fine.  But then later the article says: 
::Inks generally fall into four classes:
::* Aqueous
::* Liquid
::* Paste
::* Powder
Am I the only one that sees a problem? 98.82.22.154 (talk) 15:54, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "Aqueous" and "liquid" can be collapsed into "liquid".  Powder was already addressed a year and a half ago (see above).  That leaves paste.  I think we can safely say "Ink is a liquid or paste...".  Frotz (talk) 19:10, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been like this for ten years! And aqueous and liquid aren't synonymous, as alcohols and oils can also be used.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.61.180.106 (talk) 21:33, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: What is ink

message: I watched a YouTube video made by a person making an icon. Ink was made using the clear water from boiled egg whites; the foamy part was discarded. The fluid was ground together with pigment and water in order to make a pale "egg white ink" meant to draw a pale image on the icon panel. The gilding and painting with egg tempera then commenced. The video made it seem like this was a well-known ink, at least among iconographers, but it was new to me (a non-iconographer). Is this the only use for this version of egg white ink? Thank you for your time, Wordreader (talk) 23:52, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  A different egg white ink.... 

message: Here is the initial info in "Types":
::Ink formulas vary, but commonly involve two components:
::::Colorants
::::Vehicles (binders)
::Inks generally fall into four classes:
::::Aqueous
::::Liquid
::::Paste
::::Powder
The section is then divided into three sub-sections, "Colorants," "Pigments," and "Dyes."  Are pigments and dyes vehicles?  If so, then there should be two sub-sections, "Colorants" and "Vehicles."  
The terms "formula," "component," "vehicle," and "binder" all need explaining.  
But the second topic, the classes of inks, is not informative at all; how do these classes differ, and what is each class of ink for?  In the intro it is stated that liquid inks are for writing and drawing, and paste inks for printing, so these themes need development along with the two new classes.  Wordwright (talk) 00:56, 2 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem with order of info in "Types." 

message: Not do degrade Wikipedia's authority based on cults, but I am an expert on ancient European manuscripts. And I have seldom heard of any black pigment used, apart from carbon black. Which is still the primary pigment used today. 79.106.203.50 (talk) 09:33, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Goodness knows when that was added, or by whom. Feel free to remove it, if you think it's nonsense - I don't imagine that anyone would consider the Christian Science Monitor to be a reliable source on the subject of ancient European pigments. If you have access to better sources (it sounds like you do), please write something better and cite those sources. Girth Summit (blether) 09:44, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Found it. That text was added in December 2005 by someone editing without an account; the Christian Science Monitor source was added the following month. Looks like it's just been sitting in the article unchallenged since that point. Please, if you are an expert on this topic, write something better and provide a citation to a reliable source on this subject matter. I can help with formatting the citation if you're not sure how to do it. Girth Summit (blether) 09:51, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Christian Science Monitor