Talk:Boast of Cassiopeia

message: The section suggesting that the myth originated via the constellations should, I think, be deleted.  Besides being an over-simplification of the complexities of mythology, it is wrong.  Astrology, though which mythological significance might be applied to the stars, did not arrive in Greece until the 4th c. BC, hundreds of years after the principle formation of the myth.  Therefore, the constellations could not have been the foundation of the myth, but are instead an aftereffect of it, a novel way of using the myth at a later time.--MS
:There's no evidence for the arrival of astrology in Greece. Astrology is very ancient and the Greeks are not likely not to have known about it. The possibility of mythic elements based on the stars is real and should be included as one theory.Dave 19:05, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The distinction you are trying to make escapes me. As for the origin of either astrology or mythology, you are oversimplifying and speculating.Dave 19:05, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

text: The probelm with trying to date astral myths or any myths that we do not know were devised by a specific author is that they came from oral tradition and who can date that? There are a lot of opinions in this field. Just because someone wrote one in a book doesn't make it "authoritative". It is just grist for the mill. The better article would include different possibilities. This isn't science. It is art.Dave 19:05, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins of the myth 

message: :If the text relating the four constellations to the myth is not deleted, then shouldn't Perseus be added as a fifth?  It lies next to the constellations Andromeda and Cassiopeia. Wdfarmer 20:03, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I mistrust trying to present anything ancient according to some current scheme. I don't see the myths as bearing the stamp of any one unifying mind. I question whether there was an ancient "star scheme".Dave 19:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Constellations

message: Wikipedia's approach to presentation, which, though determined by limitations of the media, is quite a good one, is to offer a large number of smaller-sized articles tied together with hypertext links. A given topic thus is not limited by size nor does it tire the reader with more material than he wanted to read. We don't need to merge the articles. Andromeda and Cassiopeia are different people. The main objection is that some of the Andromeda myth is redundant. Stop me if I am wrong, but is not the Wikipedia solution to put it in one place only and link it from the other?
You might argue that if you take the material out of one place, not enough would remain in the article. I would like to say this. There is a lot more to be said about either character. Those articles are only works in progress. If you merge them now, you might end up separating them later.
It has been suggested above that they should or should not be together because they do or do not conform to some scheme, which I have tried to answer above. All that is strictly speculative. There was orginally no scheme, or perhaps were many schemes. We are better off sticking to the sources, which so far do not even appear in the articles. If we can do that, we can beat Britannica, which is written by experts who do not allow us to read our own Bibles, so to speak. They don't hang us up in sources, but then, they don't say too much, either.Dave 19:39, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Link not Merge

message: The article states: The story is set in the royal household of Aethiopia (not to be confused with Ethiopia, the modern name of Axum), but the link for Aethiopia leads to Ethiopia. Anyone care to elaborate? --Spiggot 18:15, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethiopia 

message: :King Cepheus (Greek for gardener), and queen Cassiopeia (Greek for cassia juice), had promised their daughter Andromeda (Greek for ruler of men) to the nobleman Phineus.
This is inaccurate:-
*In Greek, "garden" is κηπος, not κηφος.
*Cassiopeia in Greek is Κασσιεπεια = "excelling-words-female = "she whose words excel", ref. boasting
*Andromeda is Greek for "man-wise".
Anthony Appleyard 07:45, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Translations of the names