Talk:Casey Kasem

message: If he is still voicing characters, even if it's one, then he's still an active voice actor he may have intended to official retire but obviously he hasn't so until he stops voicing completely it should remain as "1969-present" due to this as it is part of his career. JamesAlan1986 20:00, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kasem is not retired 

message: First I feel the ongoing dispute between his 2nd wife and Casey's children should be in a separate paragraph than the one detailing his family. I say this because the spat is separate from his previous marriage, and doesn't have any mention of the child he had with his 2nd wife (i.e. clearly its a new thought or idea and if one were writing a biography or article about them they would have it separate).
2nd The fact that the feud going on involves only people with the last name of Kasem, it makes no sense for any of them to be referred to as Kasem upon second reference. It looks like lines were taken directly from the articles they provide as references, which means the original lines probably were in line with AP Style in the original articles but wind up becoming confusing when grouped together with other lines. The whole concept behind using only one name upon second reference is to cut down on word count, and to make it easier to understand who the writer is talking about. Last names should only be used if it is clear who they are talking about (i.e. story is about 2 people with different last names, or you refer to one (usually more famous/well-known) person by their last name and the other one with a similar last name by only their first name). You can't get away with this style of writing when you glob together various lines from different articles, because you wind up referring to people by their full name, then reference them by their last and then return back to their full name, its very disorienting for the reader (if there was only one Kasem you could get away with that, but there are multiples in this case).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.61.6.239 (talk) 23:47, 12 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing Personal Life Section 

message: There's a tremendous amount of material about the last six months, and while his health has been a well-discussed topic, I'd ask editors to consider keeping in mind both a sense of  due weight, and care in discussing living people, both he and his family.  --j⚛e deckertalk 18:07, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal life section feels overweight 

message: Match first marriage data with IMDB, and include end of second marriage:
spouse =  (divorced)
Snbx (talk) 15:15, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Note WP:RS/IMDB.  --j⚛e deckertalk 16:36, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —  (e • t • c) 18:37, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

text: Not done: Please express the change you want to make in a 'please change X to Y' degree of detail and provide reliable sources for any factual changes. IMDB is generally not a reliable source. Thanks, Older and ... well older (talk) 18:29, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 June 2014 

message: Does anyone know what was Mr. Kasem's rank when he was discharged from the Army?
STrRedWolf (talk) 16:51, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small military detail request. 

message: There is not enough information for this bio:
1: Does not talk much about parents
2: Does not talk much about his military and ending rank
3: Does not cover much about his life style and health chose and his marriages.
Repeating information:
It seems to me that the author talk over and over about our beloved DJ's hit countdowns, voice overs, and TV/movies in many sections of this articular.
Please take more time in writing and in your research.  Casey deserves your best, a job well done is a job worth doing!
--108.120.187.27 (talk) 08:52, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome to Wikipedia, the encylopedia anyone can edit.  Perhaps you can help us improve this article yourself? --ThaddeusB (talk) 14:58, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information missing and some information overly repeated 

message: Numerous reliable sources list the subject's birth name as either "Kemal Amen Kasem" or "Kemal Amin Kasem". A survey of four sources:
*The New York Times uses Amen in two articles (1, 2), and Amin in one article (1). It also uses "Amin" in a third-party database from All Media Guide that they include on nytimes.com (example).
*Los Angeles Times has no articles that contain either version, but uses Amin in a database entry in a web project they call Hollywood Star Walk; I would not assume it was subject to their normal fact-checking process.
*The Washington Post uses Amen in one article (1, listed as a "style blog"), and Amin in two articles (1, 2, both written by the Associated Press this week rather than the Post).
*The Chicago Tribune uses Amen in one article (1), and Amin in two articles (1, 2; 2 was written by Variety, not the Trib).
A Google Books search shows 13 books use Amen, and 8 books use Amin. None deal with the issue of there being two popular spellings.
I don't think there's likely to be a definitive resolution to this unless someone tracks down a birth certificate, just arguments based on truthiness where people cite arbitrary facts to prove their case. ("One has more Google results than the other", "Fox News uses Amin and they're fair and balanced", etc.)
One approach is dropping the middle name. If one spelling is listed, I think both need to be listed, one way or another, and any approach I can think of is ugly:
* Tack on "(some sources spell his middle name Amen)" to the end of the first sentence.
* Kemal Amin (or Amen) "Casey" Kasem...
* Kemal Amin "Casey" Kasem (listed as Amen in some sources)...
Agyle (talk) 06:43, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: ...and now we're back to "Amen" in the article, based on this image of the death cert in this article. —[AlanM1(talk)]— 20:56, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle name spelling 

message: The source for Kasem's burial in Norway is from a tabloid. Is Wikipedis really allowing this as a legitimate source now? Just another reason why Wikipedia has frustrated me enough to stop being a regular contributor. NorthernThunder (talk) 18:27, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tabloid legitimate? 

message: In the near future new editors will be coming here since there's a burial issue and some gossip might spread among unregistered users. In the case of a new development of Kasem's burial or sadly any more family feuds I recommend having a semi-protected edit request at the time it happens. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 09:17, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible future semi-protected edit request 

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message: In the TV filmography section, you have Mr Kasem as a voice only artist in the Quincy, M.E. episode "An Unfriendly Radiance" whereas, in fact, it was a live action role. I've just watched it, and it's definitely him!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7F:684C:0:DDD8:FE87:BEFD:948D (talk) 13:51, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alteration to Filmography listing 

message: Kasem was an advocate for Arab-American rights throughout his lifetime. Shouldn't we add his name in Arabic?76.187.211.251 (talk) 21:10, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no opinion on this part, though its inclusion has been disputed (looking at the edit history) and needs to gain WP:CONSENSUS - unless there is a guideline or policy prohibiting it altogether (I'm currently not aware of any prohibition of this content). MPFitz1968 (talk) 21:16, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Putting his name In Arabic. 

message: He voiced "Mark". Notably, there is an in-joke in the first episode where Princess says "Two heads are better than one", to which Mark replies "Not on the same body." Drsruli (talk) 07:55, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battle of the Planets 

message: There seems to be dispute about what his main role was in his life, with back-and-forth changes to what's listed first in the lede and infobox. I think arguments can be made about both voice actor and disc jockey. He was well known for voicing various roles in animated shows, most notably Shaggy in the Scooby Doo series, but his being a disc jockey and/or radio/television personality is not any less known, including his hosting the American Top 40 and Casey's Top 40 pop music countdown programs. For a long time, the disc jockey role has been first, but recent edits by IPs have shifted to his voice acting role. I don't know that there's a need to switch the primary role and this is why I'm bringing this up on the talk page: to discuss this. MPFitz1968 (talk) 06:23, 1 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Two popular, nationally-syndicated radio programs were hardly "small-time gigs".  Perhaps millennials only know him as a voice actor, but the primary reason for his notability was his status as "America's DJ". General Ization Talk   03:21, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you regarding his primary reason for notability. If someone could look at this article and come away thinking that "American Top 40" and "Casey's Top 40" which ran collectively for almost 40 years were but "small-time gigs" for a renowned voice actor, then I think the article doesn't sufficiently indicate notably where it ought to. We should probably make that clearer in the body of the article, but for the time being, at the very least it should be clear in the lead. Cheers, -- irn (talk) 13:34, 14 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's his primary role - voice actor or disc jockey?