Talk:Three Sisters (Pittsburgh)

message: that's on the talk page because the article is "in use" but I have to go to bed... More tomorrow unless the article fairy does it for me!
I plan to return to this article in the morning... I want to try to add 3  invocations and use up all the images I uploaded (these are all from HAER) but the problem is that 3 boxes take up a lot of vertical... Not sure I can get it to work. Maybe I'll have to do one box with 3 columns of stats in it??? have to see.
Below is stuff dumped to preserve it, please comment up here... All the dumped stuff will be moved to the article or condensed and moved, or discarded, as needed. I ran out of weekend so pulled the inuse tag from the main article but I am by nomeans done, it needs a LOT OF WORK... the HAER text is too detailed, and the predecessor bridges need organization... maybe each bridge needs its own article after all, comments? ++Lar: t/c 16:50, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: Maybe the way to do it is a gallery? I figure one image each for the 3 infoboxes?  These may not be the absolute best images possible but I selected them because between the set you get a LOT of detail about the different construction details, how the eyebolts run, what an anchorage looks like, what the deck underside looks like, the way the suspender eyebolts work, etc... and that first 6th street pic, showing all three bridges is just cool. That's the article lead image I think. There were only 2 HAER color photos, I took both of them and a smattering of the rest.
The data for the boxes can be gleaned from the structurae and bridgemeister links already in the article.
Question (for self? for whoever reads this?) do we mention that they used to be green towers with silver spans and eyebars and that all Pittsburgh bridges are now golden? Or not? Also, how did the diagram turn out? It's hard to reduce a TIF that much but I thought it came out OK?
-- ++Lar: t/c 06:59, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ninth Street

message: === (Note, this portion of the conversation was moved from Talk:Hot Metal Bridge) ===
Which I for one would prefer to see the Three Sisters broken apart again. You see each individual bridge on a map of Pittsburgh. That's not the case for Hot Metal. ClarkBHM 21:34, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My long term plan (as the guy that merged the Three Sisters) is/was to have articles for each separate bridge, all linked to from the Three Sisters article which would then become an overview and history/setting sort of article. Then the nav (crossings box) can weave through the separate bridge articles instead of through it, and the separate bridge articles can carry all the history of the previous bridges (which all is in the history of the 3 sis article as deleted material since it wasn't formatted very well) I confess I may have bitten off more than I can chew because while that's my plan I haven't done it yet which I feel guilty about! More comments to that talk page, perhaps? ++Lar: t/c 01:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with your assessment. The Three Sisters as an article provides a nice overview of the unique nature of having three similar bridges being built within the same time frame. I think that each individual bridge should have its own article though. Identical information for each bridge can refer back to the Three Sisters page... ClarkBHM 02:34, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is plenty of source material on the individual bridges as well as their predecessors out there. I OCRed in about half of the 40 some pages of the HAER writeup referenced (which is all public domain text). Plus pghbridges.com has good material on each bridge and the predecessors. It's just a matter of making time to do it! The older Roberto Clemente Bridge article is still around but the other two, Rachael Carson Bridge and Andy Warhol Bridge do not exist (never created?)  The RC article does not have much at all which is why I was thinking maybe of making it a redirect.  So ya, if you have time and want to take it on, please do! I suggest a trawl through the history of this article, the info is there... Or, I'll try to do it soon (I am about to go on holiday for a while), perhaps with some help? I confess I am not a Pittsburgh native, I just happened to back into these bridges doing research on Self anchoreds and thought it neat. I don't think there is anywhere else in the world that has three near identical suspension bridges all built at the same time. I confess... I started this and then left it hanging, my bad. At least I got Coraopolis Bridge done though. ++Lar: t/c 02:47, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting the Three Sisters 

message: Which I for one would prefer to see the Three Sisters broken apart again. You see each individual bridge on a map of Pittsburgh. That's not the case for Hot Metal. ClarkBHM 21:34, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My long term plan (as the guy that merged the Three Sisters) is/was to have articles for each separate bridge, all linked to from the Three Sisters article which would then become an overview and history/setting sort of article. Then the nav (crossings box) can weave through the separate bridge articles instead of through it, and the separate bridge articles can carry all the history of the previous bridges (which all is in the history of the 3 sis article as deleted material since it wasn't formatted very well) I confess I may have bitten off more than I can chew because while that's my plan I haven't done it yet which I feel guilty about! More comments to that talk page, perhaps? ++Lar: t/c 01:50, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with your assessment. The Three Sisters as an article provides a nice overview of the unique nature of having three similar bridges being built within the same time frame. I think that each individual bridge should have its own article though. Identical information for each bridge can refer back to the Three Sisters page... ClarkBHM 02:34, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is plenty of source material on the individual bridges as well as their predecessors out there. I OCRed in about half of the 40 some pages of the HAER writeup referenced (which is all public domain text). Plus pghbridges.com has good material on each bridge and the predecessors. It's just a matter of making time to do it! The older Roberto Clemente Bridge article is still around but the other two, Rachael Carson Bridge and Andy Warhol Bridge do not exist (never created?)  The RC article does not have much at all which is why I was thinking maybe of making it a redirect.  So ya, if you have time and want to take it on, please do! I suggest a trawl through the history of this article, the info is there... Or, I'll try to do it soon (I am about to go on holiday for a while), perhaps with some help? I confess I am not a Pittsburgh native, I just happened to back into these bridges doing research on Self anchoreds and thought it neat. I don't think there is anywhere else in the world that has three near identical suspension bridges all built at the same time. I confess... I started this and then left it hanging, my bad. At least I got Coraopolis Bridge done though. ++Lar: t/c 02:47, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  (Note, this portion of the conversation was moved from [[Talk:Hot Metal Bridge]])