Talk:International Third Position

message: The hypocrisy is palpable, their antiZionism is just anti Jewish as they support Apartheid and White Nationalism, colonialism while opposing the Jewish Zionist State
I don't object to characterizing International Third Position as neofascist or a form of national socialism and think those are accurate terms for the group.  What I was objecting to was (1) the characterizing of International Third Position as part of the Third Way (UK) political party, which is factually inaccurate as they are two different groups; and (2) the characterization of Third Way (UK) as right-wing or neofascist in any sense.  What we have here are two groups which resulted from a split in the British National Front in the 1980s, but that's the only connection.  International Third Position still follows right-wing Strasserite ideology, Third Way (UK) has become essentially a group of the left and its leadership has renounced racism and fascism.  Barring any evidence to the contrary, I'll take their word for it.  Kaibabsquirrel 18:08, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: But since a number of critics argue that the Third Way (UK) is just another variation of right-wing populism or its more zealous cousin neofascism (social credit is a clue), then there has to be some way to state that in an NPOV way.--Cberlet 19:47, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Social credit does not automatically intersect with racism or neofascism.  Anyway both of the articles now look acceptably NPOV in their present forms if they're okay with you. Kaibabsquirrel 20:23, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: True, true, but a clue for more digging.  Indeed, both look fine, and your points are well taken.  Thanks for the edits.--Cberlet 00:08, 31 May 2005 (UTC)

message: I cut the manifesto below cos it wasn't wikified or placed in context, just looked like a text dump from a website. I'm not going to do work on it but if folk want to take the salient info to put in the article, here it is.
Chaikney 15:09, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: manifesto?

message: GrumpyTroll has repeatedly replaced the description "right-wing" by "left-wing" in the introduction. i'm putting in an NPOV dispute tag to hear other people's interpretations. 
GrumpyTroll - if you are a troll, then you should leave the wikipedia. If you wish to help build the wikipedia, then please explain why you wish to put the left-wing label here in contradiction to the externally referenced facts in the article.
Boud 17:06, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Me, trolling? I am not a troll. I wish to put the left-wing label there, because it better describes the British National Party's ideology than the right-wing label, as very rightly expressed by Lord Tebbit. Grumpy Troll (talk) 18:25, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I believe that is innacurate, but I simply cannot be bothered to discuss than with bigoted lefties who which to associate the racist, leftist BNP and the Right. Grumpy Troll (talk) 18:25, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you wish to support your claim that the BNF is left-wing "as expressed by Lord Tebbit", then you are going to have to discuss that with whoever works on the British National Front page and provide an external reference on that page and come to a WP:NPOV over there. If there is consensus to change the summary on that page, then you can come back here and bring a few words from the NPOV summary here. Boud 18:55, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  GrumpyTroll trolling - NPOV