Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/QuakeAID

message: The fact is that one of the users above specifically stated that they objected to QuakeAID's entry BECAUSE Baou Trust did not have a page itself.  So I created one.   I did not want to because it is not our focus.  Remove Baou Trust if you want.  I, but more importantly, our founder Katerina Theohari DOES NOT want a page for Baou Trust.  I was asked to add it AFTER I explained the complaint that was being made by one of the above users.  It is a nonsense to object to QuakeAID because Baou Trust does not have a page and then complaint that Baou Trust is trying to promote itself.
The fact of the matter is that Ms Theohari did not authorize the page regarding her painting.  I published the information there because it explains or suggests how she obtained the considerable funding that is spent on endeavors such as QuakeAID.  Remove the page for Kaith, if you want, it matters not to her or to me.
QuakeAID is a legitimate organization whether users of this service like it or not and will continue to provide funding, research and educational information irrespective of your comments or action regarding the page published here.  The only negative element of the proposed deletion is that if it is done, users of this service will not find reference to QuakeAID.  That may or may not negatively effect QuakeAID, but it will demonstrate that because of a single user RaD Man, your service is subject to and the victim of arbitrary censorship.  But of course, you already know that because it has happened before; reference RaD Man's own comments, "If you stalk my habits, then you know I'm not a deletionist by nature."  Where I come from one should need to make such a comment, it merely confirms the initial suggestion.  Actions speak louder than words.  It is perhaps why QuakeAID does not spend alot of time flouting its activities.  We're too busy doing.  I tried to convince Ms Theohari on the value of the Internet but her instincts, as usual, were correct.
 Keep QuakeAID  --BAOU 06:36, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do not double vote.  Your edit history is proof positive that you are indeed SPAMMING Wikipedia.  There is absolutely no question about that.  As I said before, I will be the first to openly apologize if someone (independant) can volunteer information that indicates that QuakeAID is not a fraud.  As it stands, you have been (a) carelessly erasing Talk pages from numerous articles, (b) adding completely non-notable artists (who carry less than 9 Google hits) who are directly related to your Bauo corporation, (c) there is no documentation visible that indicates you are a non-profit organization of any sort, and (d) you've been spamming links left and right to QuakeAID, Bauo Trust and your news wire website (all people and organizations you are personally affiliated with and related to and virtually unknown to anyone except your subsidary companies) looks pretty goddamn shady to me.  I feel I'm in the right here by bringing this to VfD, otherwise I wouldn't have done it.  Believe me.  —RaD Man (talk) 07:01, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't believe you.  I see, you control everything here.  I also see that you base the information found in this resource on what you find in Google.  That makes it no better than Google.  Sad really.  You deleted all of the comments that were made to refute the inaccurate information published (by you).  Nice one. There is no proof of anything except that you have altogether too much authority in the management of this resource.  I note that you removed my original vote as well.  Nice one. I repeat, unless you provide an answer to my question, my article will go out without your side.  Your comments are inaccurate.  You are on a personal quest.  --BAOU 07:10, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Refer to your own talk page.  Please point out which comments I've made that you are finding to be inaccurate.  Your vote is above right where you left it.  Thank you for the false accusations, I'll be here all night.  —RaD Man (talk) 07:38, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion 

message: But User:RaD Man does not think OfficialWire is vanity.  Inconsistent and evidence of his prejudice.
Delete the following pages:
QuakeAID
Kaith
OfficialWire
George Dracos
Baou Trust
Then delete the username Baou Trust.  Ms Theohari does not wish to be associated with this resource.  All of the materials found on these pages is copyright Baou Trust.  They were published with the permission of the copyright owner and that permission has now been withdrawn. --BAOU 07:41, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Part one 

message: Be sure to check out OfficialSpin.  But it's interesting that you need to check Google in order to determine which pages Baou Trust has published to this resource.  Be sure to report your results.  I have a fair idea that you are on an Alexa IP and so that's what I will say.  If this is not true, be sure to disabuse me of that belief.
--BAOU 08:07, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Part two 

message: 209.237.238.181  Alexa Internet:
Care to identify which Wikipedia user of this resource accesses the Internet from this IP?  Stand up and be counted. --BAOU 07:53, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Part three 

message: I tried to send an email to Jimbo Wales, to get his comments for my article, but his email address as found on his website does not work.
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BTW, did you know that wikipedia.org is actually owned by Bomis, Inc., a private company for profit controlled by Mr Wales?  I guess that's just in case the project goes bust on day, so Mr Wales can retain control over the domain name.  It's a forward thinking thang.
Anyway, if anyone has his email address, I want to give him the chance to comment as well. --BAOU 08:01, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Part four 

message: Because we need an independent record of the message on our system, for legal reasons, which is not under your control and could therefore be deleted and denied.  You cannot be trusted.
--BAOU 08:10, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Part five 

message: I think it is newsworthy that you are attacking QuakeAID, without any knowledge of the organization.  Would you like to reveal your reasons?  I give you this opportunity in aid of fair reporting.  Please reply.  --BAOU 07:13, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  This is not meant to be an attack on you.  There are guidelines on what is acceptable on Wikipedia and you are working outside of those lines.  Far outside.  If you wish to talk to me on my talk page, click here -> User_talk:Radman1.  I have left you a personal note at http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Baoutrust&oldid=9069360#Suspicion_of_fraud.   —RaD Man (talk) 07:25, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Christian Wirth a/k/a/ RaD Man achieved notarity by making it his personal quest in life to attack the reputation of QuakeAID, based on inaccurate information. He used his position of power, within the Wikipedia organization to attempt to sully the reputation of QuakeAID, but merely suceeded in demonstration what a complete ass he really is.  See Christian Wirth  --BAOU 08:26, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Your personal attack against QuakeAID 

message: Please read every single record in this history log in order to make sense of what's going on while maintaining neutrality.
*QuakeAID: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.quakeaid.org/
*Kestrel Trading Company: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.kestrel.mu
*Baou.com: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.baou.com
QuakeAID's page of interest: http://web.archive.org/web/20020602150428/http://quakeaid.org/  --Godric 08:48, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)
* So it looks like Baou.com is originally "a protectorate of the Church, Baou Island offers a host of services such as corporate registrations, off-shore tax incentives and private banking arrangements" turn sponsor of non-non-profit agency QuakeAID? What is it we're supposed to be seeing here exactly. —RaD Man (talk) 08:55, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: QuakeAID, Kestrel Trading Company, Baou.com - Website History on Wayback Machine