Talk:The Grand Inquisitor

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Grand inquisitor.JPG

message: Dostoyevsky may have gotten his idea for the Grand Inquisitor from Schiller, but there are other and earlier literary precedents. I don't have time to track them down right now, but I seem to recall that the French feuilletonist Eugene Sue wrote a similar passage, and that this in turn was suggested by a passage from an earlier Spanish writer.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thomas.Hedden (talk • contribs) 13:52, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Origins

message: That comment by the literary critic about it being a fictional confrontation between Tolstoy and D is ridiculous. I just finished Joseph 
Franks 750 pg fifth volume biograohy of Dost dealing mostly with BK and after analyzing extensively the notes, letters, comments, conversations that refer to the Grand Inquisitor Frank makes it clear that the work is about exactly what it seems; a confrontation between the spirit of christ and the materialism of the church (and of Marxist socialism). Throughout dostoevsky's work materialism vs spiritualism is the main thread, and it is powerfully expressed here along with several other more nuanced opinions about eastern christianity vs. catholocism, nialism vs russian socialism, the nature of humanity, and the failure of european society.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahakaya (talk • contribs) 07:21, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: (Comment)

message: I think it's not correct to call Ivan "a committed atheist" VZakharov (talk) 14:28, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "committed atheist" 

message: I'm minded to do some pruning on this section: 
The X-files episode article isn't specific about the connection (just a vague reference to "The Brothers Karamazov", here), and I can't see anything on Kushner's page about that one, so some citations asserting the connections would be useful. The repetition of the song titles was looking like cruft, and Andres's play is self-evidently about this Grand Inquisitor, not Dostoyevski's, so I've deleted them altogether. Very cathartic! Swanny18 (talk) 17:21, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influence on other media 

message: ""The Grand Inquisitor" is a story within a story contained within Fyodor Dostoevsky's 1880 novel The Brothers Karamazov."
Using the term "story within a story" seems to suggest an additional level of recursion: a story contained within a story contained within The Brothers Karamazov, while it's an embedded narrative within The Brothers Karamazov. Is there any alternative to that term? Would "embedded narrative" be confusing to those who don't know the term? If so, how could the article be reworded in order to not cause any confusion, or is the current formatting acceptable?--178.155.5.169 (talk) 19:06, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that it's not very well worded. It might be slightly less confusing if "story within a story" were bluelinked, and "contained within" changed to something like "that forms an important part of". Thus: ""The Grand Inquisitor" is a story within a story that forms an important part of Fyodor Dostoevsky's 1880 novel The Brothers Karamazov." "Embedded narrative" is probably ok, but I don't think either term is ideal as a description of the chapter's place within the novel. In Bakhtinian terms, it's a dialogue (The Grand Inquisitor with Christ) within a dialogue (Ivan with Alyosha) within The Great Dialogue of the novel. There's a problem with the word 'soliloquy' for the same reason: although Christ doesn't speak in the dialogue, he is palpably present and the Inquisitor is addressing Him with every word he utters. Harold the Sheep (talk) 06:36, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclarity in the opening.