Template talk:Clade

message: Just in case there are potential users who are put off by the complexity, there is a simple utility over here that may help Windows users create Cladograms by visually editing the trees. http://code.google.com/p/claded/downloads/list
I wrote it, but do not think I might get to extend it further or support feature requests or bug reports, but the source code is out there for improvement. Shyamal (talk) 12:29, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editor 

message: Any possibility of dbl/triple lines for polyphyletic groups, or other common conventions? kwami (talk) 09:51, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See #Double lines. Peter coxhead (talk) 16:24, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

text: It's now also easier to produce double lines by using . Peter coxhead (talk) 08:30, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  other lines 

message: The cladogram at APG III system#Phylogeny seems to exceed the allowed depth without any warning. The very last part of the cladogram does not display (there should be another clade below "Apiales"). It's not present when I use "view source" in my browser to see the table generated by the template, although the template code seems to be correct. If I replace "Apiales" by , then I get a depth exceeded warning.  Anyone able to fix this? Peter coxhead (talk) 08:20, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Depth problem with no warning 

message: Is there a way to add dashed lines for uncertain relationships? – VisionHolder « talk » 23:38, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Now there is: |stateN=dashed. Ucucha 20:38, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dashed lines? 

message: There's a convention to show double lines for a paraphyletic group (e.g. a stem group). This is possible by the following trick. Use "stateN=double;border-bottom-width:3px;border-bottom-color:" for any line that you want to be double, where N = 1, 2, 3, etc. (Just "stateN=double" doesn't work because the line needs to be at least 3px thick to show as double.) There's an example at the source of Template:Clade euphyllophyte. Peter coxhead (talk) 16:29, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's now easier to do this via ; see its documentation. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:25, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Double lines 

message: Is there a way to highlight a path from the origin to a leaf? I've used CSS background-color to highlight the leaf, but it's long way from the origin, and highlighting the path from the origin to the leaf would make it easier for readers. --Philcha (talk) 21:12, 13 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to highlight a path? 

message: On Gammaproteobacteria, I cannot change the width, but I want it set to align=none (i.e. no word-wrapping). Is that due my incompetence or are they mutually exclusive? --Squidonius (talk) 21:21, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Try using the no-break space ( ) in place of spaces when you have lists of taxa. That will force it to stop word wrapping. Also remember to italicize genera. Cheers, Rkitko (talk) 21:43, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  in line alignment and width 

message: See  for a version of this template which allows brackets or bars to be drawn on the right-hand side of the cladogram.
Note that  runs out of the allowed resources for template expansion sooner than , so use with caution on a very large cladogram!
I'd like to be able to add labels to the brackets/bars, but at present this defeats me, so I thought it better to release the existing version as it is. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:49, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to give this a go! Thanks for your hard work Peter! Now all we lack is a wysiwyg-editor, and we will have an exceptionally great resource! Petter Bøckman (talk) 10:51, 21 June 2011 (UTC)

text: Tests of IE6 were carried out and it seemed to be ok. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:26, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cladex template now available 

message: This template doesn't appear to display correctly in Wikipedia Books. I have just examined the contents of Book:Crustacea, and among its many problems, I noticed that although the  in the article krill does appear, the branches are invisible (it's on p. 125 of what is unfortunately quite a large book: 65 MB). Can anyone suggest a reason why this should happen? Can anyone fix it? --Stemonitis (talk) 14:04, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting. It seems to be a generic problem with the clade template, e.g. I converted just User:Peter_coxhead/Test to a book and the branches are invisible. If you convert the page to a PDF, it's fine – which is odd, because a "book" should be nothing more than a collection of PDF pages. I'll do some more tests, but I think the answer is that there must be something wrong with the software which renders articles into books, since the clade template works with all known browsers/operating systems. Peter coxhead (talk) 18:36, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Further tests show that tables are not, in general, rendered in a book in the same way that they are by a browser. Since the branches 'drawn' by  are actually the borders on the relevant sides of table cells, it's a "table issue" rather than a "clade template issue". Searching around, including , it seems that there are many known bugs in rendering tables in books. I'll flag up this particular issue there. Peter coxhead (talk) 18:55, 22 July 2011 (UTC)

text: I have expanded Template:Clade/doc#Limitations to cover this issue. There seems no activity at present at book tool feedback unfortunately. Peter coxhead (talk) 09:27, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cladograms in books 

message: Following the discussion at #Nowrap above, I have edited the template so that the text displayed by  is enclosed in a span tag which prevents line wrapping (unless someone explicitly inserts a line break, e.g. via ). This avoids the need to keep using    in the text of labels instead of real spaces.
Tests suggest that this does not break existing cladograms, but I am wary of changes to this template, so if you notice any new oddities, please report them here (and revert the change if serious). Peter coxhead (talk) 10:03, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change to template 

message: Is there a way to do a reverse clade?  I've seen this tool used to show companies merging but not splitting up.  For example, AOL merged with Time Warner but then they split - is there a way to represent that as a clade? Timtempleton (talk) 23:05, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: No, there is no way of displaying splits and mergers using clade and I can't see an easy way of implementing such a feature. What may suit your purpose is the template  which can construct family trees with ancestors and descendants. An overview of family tree options on Wikipedia can be found in Wikipedia:Family_trees. As long as you don't mind a vertical tree structure, the chart template looks the most suitable. Jts1882 (talk) 07:42, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the tip - I'll check it out. Timtempleton (talk) 00:34, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  If you haven't seen it by now,  now exists. The documentation shows the opposite of what you want, but you should be able to reverse the display by reversing the logic like this... but it doens't quite align properly. ? - UtherSRG (talk) 12:32, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  - Thanks for the ping. Good to know. TimTempleton (talk) (cont) 13:45, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Reverse clade" options? 

message: Please add , then set the correct  parameter, per a nomination by .  ery (talk) 15:11, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Was already done. — xaosflux Talk 17:52, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 17 April 2018 

message: Now that  has successfully merged  into , the documentation for the template needs updating. I made a quick start, but it needs more work. For example, there's no need for Template:Clade/doc/common now, and it needs the options to select a version removed and to be moved to Template:Clade/doc. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:32, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Documentation update