Template talk:Infobox book/Archive 2

message: Shouldn't the ISBN be linked similar to how they are linked for refs and sources? Just my 2¢ --Storkk 16:38, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: not quite sure I understand the comment, how are ISBNs not link currently. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:45, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the text ISBN should be put in automatically by the template. Superm401 - Talk 03:55, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I might agree if it could be implemented in such a way as to not upset existing template usage the byt far the majority of occasions includes the "ISBN" clause. I maybe that the ISBN-13 element might cause some confusion as well though. Currently I would suggest we leave this well alone. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 11:37, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ISBN linkage

message: Does any one oppose the removal of "(if not in English)" under the Original title field? It is kind of self-referential and to someone not familar with editing on the wikipedia it's be confusing.—Mitaphane talk 09:33, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Only for use when there is a foreign language original, not when the title has changed for other reasons. So, keep as is thanks. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 10:24, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original title 

message: I believe it's standard to put the title at the top of the inside of the infobox, although I could be wrong.  For example.  Should we bring this infobox into line? - Peregrinefisher 04:21, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not necessarily disagreeing, but where do you find the idea the "inside is standard". :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 09:41, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess book isn't the only one, but it looks to be very rare.  At Wikipedia:List_of_infoboxes/Arts_%26_Entertainment, there are about 20 with the info inside the box, book and golfer are the only ones outside. - Peregrinefisher 19:03, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

text: *shrug* I happen to like having the title outside the box. EVula 19:40, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Why is the title outside of the box?

message: I am seeing a lot of classic works, published before paperbacks were invented, listed as "paperback". Any book published before paperbacks were invented (America 1939) should not list a media type at all, leave it blank - it is assumed hardcover. What else could it be? It also makes no sense to list it as paperback because of modern reprints, I mean, books now are being "re-printed" in any number of formats: Project Gutenberg ASCII text versions, Google Books format, PDF formats. etc.. it is redundant and confusing to list the physical formats of public domain works, or really anything before WWII - it was all hardcover.  -- Stbalbach 15:52, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Media type

message: I thought it might be useful to add a section to the infobox if there is a link to a copy of the work in the public domain.  What do others think? Remember 21:20, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not completely adverse to this, we will be mainly talking of older (out of copyright), classic works here I think, the only real objection I can think of is the likelyhood of having multiple sources to link to. Most articles for which this sort of thing applies currently put this sort of thing (gutenburg for instance) in an "External links" section at the end of the article. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:33, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding link to free text of book 

message: * From Pieces to Weight: Once Upon a Time in Southside Queens
* Eldest
For a complete list:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Whatlinkshere/Template:Infobox_Book
ShotokanTuning 13:31, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles using this template

message: * The use of colors is basicly a no/no because everybody has a favourite.
* This should be a infobox.
* There are few book in Wikipedia using a infobox template, while it's quite useful.
ShotokanTuning 13:31, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Ideas

message: Are these two fields for a book series (e.g., Harry Potter) or chronological order of books published by author(s)?  Or is it for whatever makes sense for the book?  I can't find an explanation of what these fields mean... Cburnett 19:23, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Series, I would assume. Other books that an author has written have very little to do with each other, so there's no reason to link to them in the infobox. EVula // talk // ☯ // 20:22, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither do albums, but  does it chronologically.  Hence the ambiguity and my confusion. Cburnett 21:56, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For Albums there is no normal need for "series" support, so no ambiguity there. Here these are mainly for supporting series, although they can be used for chronological support. The ambiguity is a bit problematic, can anyone see an obvious solution. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 09:00, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would suggest basically a copy/paste from Infobox Album that includes "artist chronology" with previous and next.  So there would be two sets of parameters: one for series and one for chronological order.  I would find both worthy and useful.  Cburnett 14:03, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not a bad idea.  There is an additional problem of some authors who write more than one series at once (so that a book from one series comes out, then one from another, then one from the first...).  Right now, at least, I think we should make it clear that the current preceded_by and followed_by spaces are for series, not chronology.  I'll make a note in the usage section accordingly, with more to come later.  -User:Elizabennet | talk 21:33, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Preceded and followed by fields 

message: Why doesn't/how could the ISBN field provide a link typing ISBN ________ normally would without having to repeat "ISBN"? That just looks kind of silly. savidan(talk) (e@) 05:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You have to type ISBN ____ for the wiki engine to recognize it and create the appropriate link behind-the-scenes. Cburnett 17:35, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can't you create an external-style link such as at User:Mohrr/ISBN. — Mohrr 13:39, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ISBN 

message: Can we continue this on the next line: 
     | english_release_date =
Namely as follows:
     | english
     _release_date =
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ludvikus (talk • contribs) 05:06, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yours truly,--Ludvikus 05:08, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To my knowledge you can't "wrap" a single parameter but others may know differently. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 12:02, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  english release date 

message: It has always been a practice in the USA, or English language world, among bibliographers, etc.
:to give - not the county - but the city of publication!!!
:Accordingly, please change this Infobox books template.
::Yours truly, Ludvikus 05:31, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the intention behind this idea, but have two questions how do we maintain the country as well as often publisher are these days based in smaller less well known towns and cities and how would we best implement this is we agree with it. A new parameter might be easier, but a revised parameter "town_country" might be more meaningful and "trimmer". :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 12:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  country        =  COUNTRY OF ORIGINAL PUBLICATION 

message: Should there be a note to specify the genre? Instead of just horror, use the fiction in general horror or film horror?  -FMF|contact 17:56, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not entirely sure what you mean I have added our usual cause in the sample above but "horror fiction" as a term dues not preclude "horror film" and semantically. :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 11:54, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation linking 

message: Am creating an infobox for short stories at .  It seems like an overdue move, as there are a lot of short stories that could do with appropriate infoboxes, and the book infobox doesn't quite apply.  I thought it would be appropriate to post here about the new infobox.  -User:Elizabennet | talk 19:11, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Short story infobox 

message: I've removed the forced italicisation of the original title, as it is Wikipedia style not to italicise Cyrillic.--Hadžija 02:25, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation 

message: So if an ISBN is to be used, it should be from the original publishing it seems, but what is the procedure for books printed before the ISBN came around?  I have been looking at Hermann Hesse's Gertrud (novel) and since it was first published in 1910, it has an "NA" in this field.  But on the talk page it has been given an "incomplete infobox" designation, presumably because there is no real ISBN. Tarc 00:58, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your observations are all accurate. The only difference being that the "incomplete" tag was the "old" way of indicating something major missing from the infobox, in this can a "first edition cover". I have corrected the tag to the more up to date format. Thanks :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:37, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For books without an ISBN, it is now possible to add an OCLC identifier. (On the book referenced above, Gertrud (novel), I already added the "oclc" parameter.) — Bellhalla 13:18, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ISBN question 

message: ...add es:Plantilla:Infobox Libro. Thank you! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 158.227.34.56 (talk) 18:12, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please...