Talk:ΜTorrent

message: Renamed Trivia to Easter Eggs.  --Lexein 23:12, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: SO cool! I never knew about the hidden tetris game! That's is just SWEET! 72.192.135.223 19:01, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Reinstated the Easter Eggs article that someone seems to have deleted without checking about it's usefulness.  Frosset Mareritt  07:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What's the point of including them? They're against WP:TRIVIA and WP:IINFO. --SaberExcalibur! 06:13, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In uTorrent's case, the app's remarkably small size, and the presence of two Easter Eggs, makes them notable at least as a footnote.  I concede that the image of uTris may not survive a relevance cull, and that the EEs may belong either in Features or as a footnote.  WP is not a User's Manual is why I trimmed off the "p" and nav keys text. --Lexein (talk) 15:21, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Servant_Saber, could you please point out where exactly "Easter Eggs" are mentioned in the guides that you linked above? ∴ AlexSm 16:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "As explained in the policy introduction, merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia." I could be inclined to agree with that the inclusion of easter eggs in such a small program, even if it is only a publicity stunt, might warrant inclusion. However, in no larger extent than a line or two under Features, not it's own top-level header, and not without a source on what makes the easter eggs notable. Simply including it because "that's how it is" is nothing but WP:OR and your personal POV. --SaberExcalibur! 17:10, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved Eastern Eggs section, already minimized to justifiable size by Lexein, to the Features section and placed it directly below the size subsection so that the article flows nicely. I removed the importance template because I anticipate Saber agrees with this new setup because it complies with his inclination. Correct me if I'm wrong. I also merged the two separate Eastern Eggs discussions into one. --Lord Alderaan (talk) 14:36, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

text: There doesn't appear to currently be any mention of the Tetris Easter Eggs.  In fact, I came here to remind me how to access the minigame, only to find the content had to be removed (I've worked it out now though).  I know some editors might claim that without press coverage it amounts to original research, but as with all wiki policies that is only a guideline so if the general feeling among people visiting this page is that the Easter Eggs should be mentioned then this is what should happen. Skip1337 (talk) 17:55, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

text: I'd have no problem with them if a source is provided that establishes their notability. A personal blog source doesn't cut it. Presuming they're notable just because of file size is a little preposterous to me. Rehevkor ✉ 02:57, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Easter Eggs (again) 

message: Site's long gone with no explanation.  Just completely gone.  I came here trying to find info on it and there's nothing but out of date text.  166.205.139.201 (talk) 04:00, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? http://www.utorrent.com/ resolves fine for me. --Izno (talk) 04:18, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I'd not visited it in two years and the first time I did it was down so I assumed it had to be down for a while.   166.205.136.243 (talk) 20:48, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article is out of date, website is long gone 

message: uTorrent's malware can be avoided if the user does NOT launch the freshly downloaded uTorrent executable, but places it in any drive's Program Files\Utorrent folder. When placed in that folder, the software thinks of itself as being "installed" - and, therefore, doesn't try to inflict malware.
I'm not adding this to official article due to the fact it's not "confirmed by relevant sources".
However, privately, I can confirm (or anybody else can confirm for themselves) - Utorrent does NOT split itself into installer and software itself, an "installed" copy will act as installer if not in the designated folder.
PortableApps Wrapper can fool uTorrent into thinking it is located in designated folder, and then do its typical task of swapping local folders into variables.Yura87 (talk) 14:42, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: What malware? Rehevkor ✉ 15:16, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Utorrent and its Malware 

message: Yura87 (talk) 22:06, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Malware/garbage in uTorrent 

message: Why does the URL for "µTorrent (or uTorrent; commonly abbreviated as "µT" or "uT")" read ../Mtorrent? Shouldn't it be ../Utorrent, since that's the most common alternative spelling? I've also never heard of it called (or seen it spelled) "Mtorrent" or "mTorrent". I just thought it looked weird is all. 24.85.78.2 (talk) 19:29, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Tag at the top of the article explains "The title of this article contains the character μ. Where it is unavailable or not desired, the name may be represented as mTorrent, MTorrent or uTorrent." I believe "M" is used as that's the capital form of "µ", see Mu (letter). Due to technical limitations in the Mediawiki software means in the URLs for every article start with a capital letter. Hope this helps. Rehevkor ✉ 19:55, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The letter used isn't actually M, it's uppercase mu, which looks the same as an M, but isn't; consequently, this is why it is possible to lowercase the title for display, if not linking. --Izno (talk) 03:49, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Several Greek letters are identical to Latin letters. For example, the uppercase Greek letters Α (alpha), Β (beta), Ε (epsilon), Ζ (zeta), Η (eta), Ι (iota), Κ (kappa), Μ (mu), Ν (nu), Ο (omicron), Ρ (rho), Τ (tau), and Χ (chi) are identical typographically to the Latin letters A, B, E, Z, H, I, K, M, N, O, P, T, and X, respectively; and the lowercase Greek letter ο (omicron) is identical typographically to the Latin letter o. --208.80.119.67 (talk) 02:12, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dumb question about article URL 

message: The Languages section could use some cleanup. A list is better than a table. 81.232.38.154 (talk) 21:35, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean markup 

message: BitTorrent, Inc. recently announced that future versions of the client would include targeted advertising. After TorrentFreak and other sites spread the news, there was a massive backlash and users (many registered specifically to complain) flooded the uTorrent forum with negative comments and either reverted to old versions or switched to other clients en masse (or at least they said they did or would do so). Naturally this resulted in hasty backtracking by the management, who have now said that users will be able to turn the in-app advertising off. They may even listen to user complaints and possibly begin selling another paid version with bloat such as apps removed (since apps haven't been a huge success).
My point is, don't any of these developments (even as a passing mention) qualify as being worthy of inclusion in the article here on Wikipedia?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.177.9.21 (talk) 03:52, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Yes, the advertising issue came up in the past, and newly this year, and, as then, we'll await independent reliable sources (WP:RS like news, magazines, but not wikis, forums, or blogs) which cover the subject in some depth.  WP tries not to breathlessly report things because WP is WP:NOTNEWS not the news. We minimize citing press releases, or mirrors of them in the press.  All that said, it is valuable for readers and new editors to keep throwing stuff against the wall to see if it will stick - some percentage of the time, another editor will search and find an RS, and the new claim will be cited, and therefore "stick."  All suggestions welcome. In summary: read WP:42. It is the answer. --Lexein (talk) 09:36, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Update - I missed that CNET had noted the introduction. Added. --Lexein (talk) 20:15, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed targeted advertising in uTorrent 

message: The press release    (or mention of it) should not be in this article for these two reasons:
* this is the uTorrent article, and is not about BitTorrent Inc., their former torrent index, or the MPAA, 
* uTorrent wasn't yet owned by BitTorrent in 2005. That happened in December 2006.
I agreed with the removals of the item, based on copyvio and overquoting, but in the rush did not mention the above two reasons for exclusion. --Lexein (talk) 19:54, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bittorrent and MPAA 2005 announcement 

message: I gathered the three separate sections related to Revenue and subsectioned them, and moved the (now giant) release tables to the end of the article.  This is an accessibility and readability issue, to keep the prose together. Discuss? --Lexein (talk) 20:31, 18 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big change 

message: PC Magazine gave the program a positive review saying that it "packs an outstanding array of features".[44] and was also listed in their Best free 157 software tools
how a PC magazine talk about Piracy App  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.132.33.36 (talk) 09:16, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  question 

message: Apparently since 3.13 uTorrent's installer has bundled the download and installation of WPRO. It's a revenue tool, not a virus or worm. It is, however, unwanted, as evidenced by messages in support forums, and the recent addition to the article without source. No WP:RS yet, but now it's on our radar to be on the lookout. --Lexein (talk) 15:30, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Winzip Pro Registry Optimizer bundled with uTorrent 

message: The following was added and reverted:
:Still in 2014, µTorrent continues to keep it's subterfugious practice   on introducing toolbars and changing search engine without user's consent. This practice has been a recurring complaint of users since 2010.
Two strikes for sourcing to a non-notable person complaining on a forum (where user error is sole reason for the problems encountered), strike three for extremely POV writing. Unwanted software installation, specifically toolbars, is an increasingly common problem teed up by many software providers, not just uTorrent. Users are the problem, skipping through installation dialog boxes and not reading them. Worst, for us at WP, is that none of these problems have been discussed in independent RS. With RS news coverage, we can include these issues. --Lexein (talk) 12:21, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not the first time it's been put into the article. Unreliable source and POV issues need to be addressed before it can has a place in this article at the very least. Яehevkor ✉ 15:24, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poorly sourced claim moved here for discussion 

message: WP:NPOV states that articles must acknowledge all significant, reliably sourced viewpoints. Unfortunately, this article does not, as it does not (i.e. in the Reception section) address the increasing level of bulk and advertising content in this software (including the most recent scandal including its automated installation of the potentially unwanted program EpicScale). ViperSnake151  Talk   16:48, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article issues 

message: Hello, I have not included a title in my ref "torrentfreakriskware" for BLP reasons. 185.21.216.166 (talk) 21:45, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Which BLP reasons? ViperSnake151  Talk   22:17, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ref 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Out of general discontent with bloatware, Serge Paquet suggested to Ludvig Strigeus that he should make a smaller and more efficient BitTorrent client.
Who exactly is this Serge Paquet, why is the name important and what's the source of this info? This info seems a bit lost and adding nothing of value. I would remove it, if there's no reason to keep it there. --2A02:2028:51F:2301:80BD:7074:889C:3621 (talk) 22:05, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serge Paquet  

message: According to one of the sources in the article , it was not merely the rights to the program µTorrent which were bought, but altogether the company behind it, uTorrent AB. This is a bit confusing, but in order to correct this, there should be info about when (and how?) uTorrent AB was founded. The Wikipedia page of Daniel Ek says that he briefly was the CEO of the company. This info is missing here, too. --2A02:2028:81A:1C01:80BD:7074:889C:3621 (talk) 03:25, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing info on µTorrent as a company (uTorrent AB) 

message: As main picture. -- TVippy  01:45, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blurry screenshot 

message: I just discovered that μTorrent now comes with its own cryptocurrency "BTT". 
They call the new feature "Bittorrent Speed". (Official FAQ.) You earn BTT tokens when you upload, and you pay tokens when you download. That is, if you have tokens your client pays for "faster" download from other μTorrent clients. You can also buy BTT tokens on cryptocurrency exchanges (using other cryptocurrencies or real money). And you are supposed to also be able to sell BTT tokens, although from what I read in the BitTorrent forums selling doesn't really work yet.
The cryptocurrency feature is on by default in the current versions (μTorrent 3.5.5) but can be disabled in the settings (at least according to the FAQ). At the time I write this the cryptocurrency stuff has not yet been added to the mainline BitTorrent client.
This new feature causes several new problems:
1: In some countries using cryptocurrencies is illegal, which now makes μTorrent illegal in those countries.
2: In many countries (like my country Sweden) you have to list cryptocurrency earnings in your tax returns and report your balance if you get welfare money, unemployment benefits or sick leave money. So if you fail to report your Bittorrent seeding earnings you might be doing tax crime or welfare fraud.
I don't have good references for most of this, so I did not add it to the article.
--David Göthberg (talk) 22:46, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  BitTorrent cryptocurrency