Talk:Super Smash Bros. Brawl/Archive 20

message: Does anyone know how to get rid of the white space on the sides of the boxart in the info box? If you do, don't hesitate in editing.→041744 21:36, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The white space is in the sides of the image itself.  Someone needs to pop it open in Photoshop or something and crop it down. Arrowned 21:48, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! I re-uploaded the image with white space removed.→041744 22:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: InfoBox White Space

message: Don't upload speculative stuff like this that isn't official. EBGames is not even running it.
Also the boxart image doesn't even have a source or an author, unacceptable. Straight from IGN's mailbag
:Well, it's not really official, if that's what you're asking. I e-mailed a rep for Nintendo about whether or not it was legit, and received only the response: "We haven't released any new box art." There is no author or anything reliable for this image. There's a picture of a Luigi that is suited for Brawl yet we don't use him. (check the talk page for Luigi) Do you know why? Because it's an unknown source/author. --MrBubbles 01:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Still don't know how real it is, but all those sites that removed the box art, like Gamestop and Amazon, are now putting it back. And Link doesn't look much different than he does in the game from what I can see... --HeroicJay 22:35, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

text: And it's been pointed out to me that Walmart.com has a higher-resolution image than any I've seen previously. --HeroicJay 23:59, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I love how the archive (pg 19) didn't have a resolution for the image. 

message: Should we keep the special brawl update on the page?  I personally don't think a specific multiplayer mode (particularly one in Melee) warrants its own section on the page.  141.133.145.118 16:36, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When I added the info I followed the format from the other Smash Bros. games- the Melee article has a multi-player section and then sub-sections for different modes, including one for Special Melee. MarkSutton 17:07, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Special Brawl 

message: The sentence at the end of the inclusion of end of characters states that Sakurai said "3rd party characters will only amount to 3 or 2." Can this information be verified?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.64.66.127 (talk) 21:32, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, please see the source. — Malcolm (talk) 21:40, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion of characters 

message: This disproves that rumor that's been hanging around forever.  (Zojo 15:26, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been disproved for months. Dengarde ► Complaints  16:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: One year, three months, and eleven days specifically.  So yeah, we really don't need to discuss it.  Old hat and what not. Arrowned 18:55, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ice Climbers 

message: Hey, I was wondering if we should have a list of all the Assist Trophy characters. The answer is probably going to be "no", but I felt like bringing it up anyways. If this was already discussed in the archive, then I'm sorry for bringing it back up. The world's hungriest paperweight 01:35, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As stated in the FAQ, we aren't listing an AT characters just like we're not listing in all of the Pokemon. Magiciandude 01:39, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

text: A few examples would be okay, but listing all of them would be something more suited for a walkthrough found on GameFAQs rather than an entry on an encyclopedia. This sort of information constitutes cruft, which is generally avoided on Wikipedia. You Can't See Me! 06:57, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assist Trophy list? 

message: I think that we should add an item list, does anybody agree?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Erik20202 (talk • contribs) 01:58, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: NO, look above you and you will see the same discussion.The Wii Guy 02:07, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Why?  There's always a link to the Dojo main site.  If people can navigate Wikipedia this far to the Brawl page, surely they could navigate the Dojo page to the items section.  TwilightPhoenix 15:42, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

text: The problem would be is that it doesn't follow notability. If we had pages for all the items of every game, you could probably tell that either the deletionists are losing ground or we're trying to stuff too much unneeded information. Information like that should go in wikis specifically dealing with Super Smash Bros. or the StrategyWiki. bibliomaniac15 04:52, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

text: This isn't really a deletion discussion, but "It's useful" is still a good argument to avoid anyways. Also, "faceurhell," if you want to go by a username, you really ought to sign up and make one rather than posting as an IP and faking one. Don't try manually typing out the date and time, by the way; sign with four tildes (~~~~) or with five tildes (~~~~~) if you just want to add the date and time. You Can't See Me! 04:54, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add an item list? 

message: This is probably important. -Kenny2k 07:14, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Err...Nevermind. It seems to already be in the article. Heh. Carry on. -Kenny2k 07:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

text: That's fine, but do your edit summaries have to be so biting? Coreycubed 15:22, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

text: OHHH! You should have said so!! Dude, I take back anything I ever said about you buddy. You come outta there...it's like life on the inside. You come out a different person. Welcome home. :) Coreycubed 16:40, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a little off topic don't you think?Green Kirby 21:46, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wi-Fi Confirmed 

message: The release date on the page says Q1 2008. Although it'd only make sense, the source linked to only says 2008. Nintendo of Europe has screwed up release dates before (Super Paper Mario), so I don't think we can say for sure it will be Q1 2008. VDZ 21:14, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Europe: Q1 2008? 

message: Diddy Kong will be playable, according to the official site; I believe there are others listed there that aren't on the list in the article:  Didn't want to mess with the formatting; I'll let somebody more qualified handle it :P Robbertom 22:37, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We all know that. just about everyone here watches the updates. Theres a REASON they aren't listed. Dengarde ► Complaints  22:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Please see the FAQ. Characters are not listed on Brawl's page due to the fact that all hell would break loose if we try to work it into prose and that listing makes it look like listcruft, so instead characters are placed on this handy table. You Can't See Me! 22:46, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

text: That's the sort of explanatory and hospitable series of responses I would like to see more of in talk pages nowadays. :) Erik Jensen (Appreciate or Laugh At) 06:21, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diddy Kong Playable confirmed 

message: Is there going to be stages in the Wiki?TheBOMB001 21:25, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Most likely, no. InsaneZeroG 21:35, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Stages?

message: Can someone with access to the relevant Tips & Tricks magazine from around August 2006 please confirm the bit about Sonic being mentioned by Miyamoto? This is a case of mind-boggling bad sourcing. We were formerly citing a GameSpot union post (made by a GS user, not a staff member), which in turned referenced nintendorevolution.ca, which in turn referenced qj.net, which has a low-res screenshot and claims that they picked up the story from the Nintendo NSider forums. If the NSider forums weren't down, I wouldn't be surprised to find the chain continuing through a half dozen more sources :) --- RockMFR 23:31, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sonic mention by Miyamoto in Tips & Tricks 

message: As many seem to know, Princess Zelda from the Legend of Zelda games is playable in Super Smash Brothers Brawl. I tried to put her where it mentioned that Link and Fox McCloud had design updates, just so she would be mentioned, but it was removed, and I think it should have been kept. I'm wondering why it was removed, because it was revealed on the official website that she is a playable character. I did read that we aren't supposed to add characters, but I thought she should at least be mentioned. Thanks for your time, Zythena 00:46, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We know. The reason it's removed was because we already have some examples in the article, no more is needed. And we've already made a note that Zelda is playable in the list on Super Smash Bros. (series). Dengarde ► Complaints  00:52, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Princess Zelda as a Character 

message: Well that's no suprise. Considering Hayter's great voice acting skills voicing Snake these past years up to the finale; MGS 4: Guns of the Patriots, now this sequel. Zeta26 17:57, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm? Where did you learn this? Dengarde ► Complaints  01:08, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Game News site; QJ Wii confirmed it on their site. Zeta26 18:09, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  (For everyone else, This is the article in question) I wouldn't take this an confirmation, the article doesn't have a source, and I have NO idea if it's actually reliable or not. It seems likely, but I think we should find a better source for it if were able to fit it in the article. (Where, I dunno) Nevermind. It's linked to Hayter's official site, which confirms it. But even so, how would we fit this in the article if we do? Dengarde ► Complaints  01:16, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh, I wouldn't worry too much. I'm sure that it will be added as we get more info on when Nintendo adds more characters to the official site =). Zeta26 18:21, 30 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't particularly think so. If anything, this should be noted on David Hayter or Solid Snake (which it already is on both, albeit indirectly). You Can't See Me! 03:41, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, I think what our IP friend was talking about was his deleted comment. Basically what he said is that the article needs to be longer. Personally, I don't see why it has to be longer. Plus, I don't think there's much more we can add without bordering on cruft. As for your deleted message, I think it would be safest to assume that it was deleted by accident. The world's hungriest paperweight 03:48, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Snake's VA Confirmed