Talk:Cobbler (food)

message: This page originally came as an article within the cobbler disambigution page.  The history of its formation in the orignal form on this page can be found in that location.
Nashikawa 23:05, 14 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: A different, British meaning of cobbler is a savoury dish similar to something like a cassoulet, with thick, circular pieces of dough cooked on the top - basically scones. The cobblers themselves are the scones. See this recipe, for an example.Dancarney 08:08, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cobbler in Britain

message: This sentence..
"In the Southern United States, a well-known controversy has ensued for generations over whether cobbler should be served hot or cold."
..needs at least one citation to support it. I've never heard of it being a controversy at all..let alone a famous controversy. Between whom? I'm Southern and have cooked many cobblers without ever hearing such a thing. Cobbler is good either warm or cold..and their mouths are usually too full to complain.
Berean Hunter (talk) 18:10, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I've looked and not found anything to support this cobbler controversy..what I did find is where others are anecdotal with weasel words ..last paragraph here..http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-fruit-cobbler.htm
If a real source over a real controversy can be produced, please do...but after 5 months, it is time to remove this as unverified. 98.16.32.152 (talk) 20:29, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Btw, I'm Berean Hunter from above but using IP instead of login...98.16.32.152 (talk) 20:38, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hot Or Cold Controversy? 

message: In Canada, we mostly use the UK version, but as far as I know, I've never heard of a savoury or meat cobbler.  So the Canadian cobbler is much like the fruit/sweet version of the UK cobbler.  This is no where mentioned in the article.  
Sheila 15 September 2009  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.66.145.26 (talk) 15:47, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither obscure nor regional :) 188.126.81.128 (talk) 16:02, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

text: Then you are a fool, sir :)= Gymnophoria (talk) 12:33, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Certainly never heard of this dish in Ireland, so I'm removing reference to that country from the opening sentence ("Cobbler refers to a variety of dishes, particularly in the United States, Ireland and United Kingdom") - the only place it occurs within the article. It should not be reinserted without an wp:rs. --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 21:30, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm English and definitely remember having cobblers at school. It's basically stewed fruit with scones on top. I always assumed they're called cobblers because the cooked topping looks like cobbled streets. This seems the most obvious explanation - why isn't this is the article?! Gymnophoria (talk) 22:13, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

text: I'm looking at an American copy ofWilliam Kitchiner's The Cook's Oracle and the doctor does mention cobbler. Keep in mind that the book was originally published in 1822 in Lodon and the copy I'm looking at is 1830 in NYC. But cobbler isn't a kind of pie there. According to footnote 331-† cobbler is a nursery name for bread toasted only on a single side. I'm not sure as this is the American publication of Dr. Kitchiner's book if he included cobbler in the original 1822 publication or if it was added later. But if it was in the original publication then that puts the word cobbler as a cooking term in the British Isles at least as early as the early 19th century. - anonymous 2/28/2016 1:04 AM EST  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18B:0:9141:C5CF:1403:7D6D:40CC (talk) 06:04, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Cobbler in Canada

message: I'm english, and I've never heard of a cobbler as a kind of food. It must be some obscure regional thing. 89.242.125.104 (talk) 21:54, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither obscure nor regional :) 188.126.81.128 (talk) 16:02, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

text: Then you are a fool, sir :)= Gymnophoria (talk) 12:33, 31 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Certainly never heard of this dish in Ireland, so I'm removing reference to that country from the opening sentence ("Cobbler refers to a variety of dishes, particularly in the United States, Ireland and United Kingdom") - the only place it occurs within the article. It should not be reinserted without an wp:rs. --gråb whåt you cån (talk) 21:30, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm English and definitely remember having cobblers at school. It's basically stewed fruit with scones on top. I always assumed they're called cobblers because the cooked topping looks like cobbled streets. This seems the most obvious explanation - why isn't this is the article?! Gymnophoria (talk) 22:13, 14 March 2015 (UTC)

text: I'm looking at an American copy ofWilliam Kitchiner's The Cook's Oracle and the doctor does mention cobbler. Keep in mind that the book was originally published in 1822 in Lodon and the copy I'm looking at is 1830 in NYC. But cobbler isn't a kind of pie there. According to footnote 331-† cobbler is a nursery name for bread toasted only on a single side. I'm not sure as this is the American publication of Dr. Kitchiner's book if he included cobbler in the original 1822 publication or if it was added later. But if it was in the original publication then that puts the word cobbler as a cooking term in the British Isles at least as early as the early 19th century. - anonymous 2/28/2016 1:04 AM EST  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:18B:0:9141:C5CF:1403:7D6D:40CC (talk) 06:04, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  What? 

message: I don't know if Betty and Brown Betty are supposed to be the same thing, but I've only ever seen (Apple) Betty used as a synonym for (Apple) Crisp, throughout numerous recipe books. The desert described here sounds delicious, but it is nothing like what I know.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.87.189.17 (talk) 06:02, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Betty vs. Crisp 

message: I've given this article a bit of a rewrite to address the following issues. 
# Early US and current UK versions are topped with a layer of scones, forming a "cobbled" surface, hence the name. Modern US versions seem to be a smoother or crumblier US descendant.
# Cobblers are found not only in the US but in the UK and Commonwealth countries, although popularity in the UK seems to date only from WW2.
# Cobblers are usually desserts but not always - lamb or beef cobbler are British dishes, common in school dinners!
Gymnophoria (talk) 12:33, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expanding this article 

message: I came here look to find out more about the cobbler loaf , alas bread is not even mentioned on the page. I suggest that either the disambiguation is looked at (Cobbler (pudding)?) or something (history?) about the bread is included. --84.92.56.128 (talk) 03:06, 16 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation 

message: "Cobbler is part of the cuisine of the United Kingdom and United States, and should not be confused with a crumble"  I don't see any other place in this article or the linked crumble article to explain why it should not be confused with a crumble or what the differences are.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.76.113.3 (talk) 03:54, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should not be confused with a crumble? Why not? 

message: Under the section "Betty" it's claimed that "The American variant known as the Betty or brown Betty dates from native times".
What are native times? Does it mean "pre-colombian"? If so, that doesn't seem likely true. Neither wheat nor apples is native to the Americas.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C4CE:9A99:6D7B:4633:D4CF:7230 (talk) 21:05, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Native Times