Talk:Robert Jordan

message: Ought we not downgrade the Infinity of heaven section?  As of right now it seems like a trivia item that was given a full section when it should have been written into another section.  It could be wrapped up in an Unfinished Works section (any other number of suggestions.)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.237.194.204 (talk) 17:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Infinity of Heaven

message: I have reverted the text by Painbearer as it was very poorly written (although I do understand that English is not the user's first language) and, although expansive, resulted in an article which was less useful in an encyclopedia than the previous edit, and was to be honest unrescuable. Rje 02:51, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Revert

message: The Wheel of Time is obviously the most complex and far-reaching of Robert Jordan's works, with multiple 'companion' works in addition to the main sequence.
The intent of my recent cleanup is to simplify WoT written canon. Thus, while From The Two Rivers deserves a mention due to the added prologue, it *does not* deserve a mention due to it being illustrated, since it's of minimal importance in a general bibliography of Jordan's works.
If this were a complete bibliography (a worthy project for some other time) it would include record of different editions of the books (Hardcover vs. Softcover) revisions, and 'component' works released separately...
Such as 'Snow,' the prologue to Winter's Heart, released in E-book format prior to being included *in* Winter's Heart.
Or 'Glimmers,' which relates to Crossroads of Twilight in the same way.
Or 'The Strike At Shayol Ghul,' which was released online prior to its inclusion in "The World Of Robert Jordan's the Wheel of Time."
Under these new criteria, the New Spring novella's inclusion in this list might be just as unnecessary, given the existence of the novel, but that's more a matter of debate than any other change I have made...
:I note that the incorrect publication date was given for The World of Robert Jordan's The Wheel of Time. The book was published (in the UK at least) in hardcover on 6 November 1997. This has been fixed.--Werthead (talk) 21:55, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Woah! And the wrong date was also given for Legends, which came out in October 1998. Some sloppy research going on there! I think in both these cases the editor gave the publication date for the paperback version, not the original hardback edition.--Werthead (talk) 21:57, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes To tWoT Bibliogr 

message: The section "Final Volume" is very rough. For instance, it is unclear what, exactly, is meant by this sentence: "Jordan also said that he has already been working tightly on the installement."
I started to try to clean the section up, grammar-wise, but there are too many instances in which the previous author's intent is not clear enough for someone to be able to do so.
--Mac 19:35, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final Volume 

message: I suppose something should be written about his Blog today confirming his illness, though I am not 100% sure it really belongs in an encyclopedic entry, and if it does how it should be done. Any ideas? http://www.dragonmount.com/RobertJordan/
:I added a couple of sentences earlier today -- see article history :) Ahasuerus 19:42, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted a very POV edit on his illness. I hope I was not in error. GofG |||  Contribs 02:54, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illness 

message: The following reeks of non-NPOVness:
"The Wheel of Time
Eleven books of a projected twelve total comprising the main sequence have been published thus far. Many fans of the earlier books have been disappointed by a change in Jordan's style over the course of the series. In particular, the pace of events has slowed significantly, with a greater focus on minor characters and politics at the cost of action. This is perhaps most evident in the tenth book, Crossroads of Twilight, which Jordan admitted in a 2005 Podcast interview was potentially his worst work to date."
:agreed - however this is a widely held view - needs citations and referencing to give it more credence and slightly rephrasing to take a more impartial slant :: Kevinalewis : (Talk Page)/(Desk) 08:09, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made a stab at a more npov rewrite with sources, let me know what you think. Nowimnthing 00:39, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: This article really needs to describe the criticism of the guy's writing style. As far as I know, it is a prevalent view that Robert Jordan's style is slow-moving, the plot drawn out and the descriptions overly detailed (pages and pages describing the setting or scenery, without any plot). The views should eventually find their way into the article. --MrHumperdink 15:12, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm gonna be honest: I'm on Lord of Chaos in the Wheel of Time series and I haven't yet seen anything described for "pages and pages" with no plot. :p Slow pacing? Yes, no doubt about it. But not that slow. RobertM525 08:21, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

text: And just when i thought tolkien fanboys were opening their minds, i see this! Jordan's work is much better dude, get a grip.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Troglodyto (talk • contribs) 10:12, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism section 

message: I have contacted the people at www.dragonmount.com about using one of their pictures of Jordan posted on his blog for the writer box. They are contacting Jordan and will get back with me. Hopefully we can get a pic up soon. Nowimnthing 17:48, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: With the recent addition of more Wheel of time fansite links, I think we should trim this down a bit. Let's just keep links to stuff about Jordan on here. The Wheel of Time page has ample space for fansite links, we don't need to reproduce that here. Nowimnthing 17:51, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: I added quotes to this page because i think there is a lot of good quortes in his books
* i didnt specify a ook in my quote becasue he has that quote in most books of the wheel of time
* we should add more qoutes
Pandagrizzly 18:34, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally I think this section needs to be removed. It's not encyclopedic or relevant. It detracts from the overall quality of the article. --59.167.75.221 06:09, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: http://www.dragonmount.com/RobertJordan/?p=90#comment-61932 - from his blog. Authentic enough? SparrowsWing (talk) 01:53, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Only the good die young. - Jarn 04:04, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Alas, how sad! -- Derek Ross | Talk 04:24, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

text: The Light shine on you, and the Creator shelter you, the last embrace of the Mother welcome you home. Mirithing 07:53, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for death 

message: Does anyone know what timezone the time (2.45 p.m.) refers to? It would be good to add it to the article, I think. --Pyreforge 08:39, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not 100% sure of that... Wasn't he also visiting the Mayo Clinic for treatment? If he was there for treatment when it happened, that would be a different timezone. - Fordan (talk) 13:54, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Time of death

message: First of all my deepest sympathies to anyone mourning him for the loss of a great guy, great author and lots more. 
I know this is probably the worst time to be thinking on anyone finishing the last book of Robert Jordan, sadly, posthumous. I think I remember him stating on his blog once that if he were to die his wife Harriet would finish the book. Can anyone confirm this and integrate it into the article? Sadly, it's now more then ever relevant. Abbath is Immortal 16:19, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See A Memory of Light. There's a link from the blog there. -- Flyguy649 talk contribs 16:22, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

text: It would be pure speculation to guess at who might or might not finish the book (although it does seem fairly probable that it will be completed by someone at some point). Since Wikipedia reports on what is actual, the proper thing to do is to wait until Tor Books makes an announcement on the matter and then report what they say. -- Derek Ross | Talk 16:28, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I too would like to express my sadness at the passing of one of my favorite authors.  That being said, here is a recent excerpt from http://www.dragonmount.com, home of Robert Jordan's official blog: "Robert Jordan left a partial manuscript for A Memory of Light and audiotapes and notes for the rest of the book. We believe that his wife and editor, Harriet, and his publisher, Tom Doherty, have every intention of seeing the book completed and published but there are no more details available at this time."  Dragonmount also seems to speculate a 2009 release date. -- Atomicblue 20:16, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Last book of WoT

message: I think the sentence "He had deep faith in God, described himself as a "High Church" Episcopalian[3] and received communion more than once a week" should be rephrased due to the fact that it implies, well, that he was right, or at least that Wikipedia agrees with him. This is obviously out of keeping with NPOV.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.67.172.17 (talk) 00:32, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. It's just a statement of fact. Or rather of three separate but indisputable facts. As such, it is absolutely in keeping with the NPOV. -- Derek Ross | Talk 03:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

text: And it could also be said that "Tolkien had a great liking for elves", but saying so in no way implies that elves exist outwith his imagination. God certainly exists in people's imaginations whether or not He exists independently of that. There's nothing wrong with your rewordings but then there was nothing wrong with the original wording either. -- Derek Ross | Talk 05:32, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: I have started a proposal to create Wikiproject: Wheel of Time (or at least a Task Force).  Please comment here.  Nutiketaiel (talk) 14:13, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikiproject 

message: Anyone know what his wife is actually called? Some sources (Tor press releases for example) seem to use Harriet McDougal, while others use Harriet Popham Rigney. I suppose McDougal is her maiden name, perhaps she didn't change it when they got married, but some sources assume they did? Rehevkor ✉ 18:07, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: McDougal is used in probably 99% of the references to his wife. So I'd suggest that it is left how it is in the article. Spidey104 (talk) 21:04, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I asked Harriet about this issue at the Lexington, Ky book signing.  She told me that McDougal is her professional name, and she never changed it when she got married to RJ.  She also said that she goes by Harriet Rigney and even Harriet Jordan sometimes, but she would prefer to be known as Harriet McDougal on wikipedia. My question got reported on dragonmount: http://www.dragonmount.com/News/?p=1031#comments.Billebrooks (talk) 12:42, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harriet 

message: I am in doubts whether the article Infinity of Heaven can survive, it is an article about a book series that prob never will be written, unless Harriet or Brandon Sanderson takes it over, which I would deem very unlikely. Then it would IMHO be best if the section Infinity of Heaven would be written to contain the same info so that no info is lost. Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 11:50, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As is, certainly. It's possible the article can be sourced and expanded sufficiently but I have my doubts. Rehevkor ✉ 17:22, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Infinity of Heaven the article

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message: Even though you are passed I'd like to say I'm truly sorry for what they did to your characters. 2601:40C:C000:98A0:318A:2005:1B55:9864 (talk) 02:32, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
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