Talk:The Sims 3/Archive 1

message: Somebody has put the Mac OS in the OS area of the infobox as well as the opening paragraph.
If I don't see a citation, I am GOING to remove it. I googled, and nothing came up. Johnnywalterboy (talk) 00:39, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you are going to delete the Mac OS of the platform section at least consider this. Aspyr have supported The Sims 1 and 2 in making the game and all of its expansions format for Mac. Why would you think they wouldn't make The Sims 3. A game that has sold 100 million copies. format for mac. The reason the Mac OS hasn't been confirmed is that the producers are only worrying about the Windows version of the game and they pay Aspyr to format the game for the Mac. That is also why the Mac version comes out 2 - 3 months after the Windows version. And a few months ago people didn't have much to go on when they said Windows was a platform for the game. EA never confirmed it. for all we knew it could have only been for linux (lol). But that was not the case because people went with what was strongly believed to be true. And Mac is. Look at the history for the game if you still can't comprehend.--121.220.158.52 (talk) 15:18, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I seconed that because The Sims series are a pretty popular game sequel. It would be more than likely they will have a Mac formated version of the game. If you look at The Sims 2, all of their games (not the stuff packs) have a Mac version for them. Same with The Sims 1. --58.169.218.147 (talk) 04:19, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

text: Least it's more trusworthy than putting iPhone, Ngage 2.0 & Playstation 3. I can't believe you alowed that to be there in that infobox for months on this article but not accept Mac OS X as being in there.--121.220.139.235 (talk) 14:03, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone just put iPhone back on the platforms infobox. You would think if they are having the game on the iPhone that the there would definately be a Mac version.--139.168.218.71 (talk) 19:33, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I added iPhone to the platforms infobox. I added a press release as a source/citation. I have to agree that unless there is a press release by EA or Aspyr or anyone else that Mac OS X needs to stay out of the platforms. And just because TS3 will be on iPhone doesn't mean it will be on Mac; EA has released Scrabble, Sudoku, and SimCity on iPhone, but they aren't present on Mac OS X. Wakka092 (talk) 00:42, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's true, Aspyr has done this in the past versions. And, if it's going to Apple iPhone. But this is Wikipedia! For something like platforms, you NEED acitation. If it's SO likely that The Sims 3 will be for Mac OS X, you should have no problem citing a source! Johnnywalterboy (talk) 08:05, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mac OS X 

message: The original Sims 3 article said that only 4 sims needs will be returning. However, this has been proven incorrect by Snooty Sims, who even have a screen shot on it Snooty Sims Sims 3 Preview. I am not sure where this information was gathered from? (JoshB (talk) 17:37, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Snooty Sims is a Fan Site and should not be used as a source whether the information is true or not. Dark verdant (talk) 09:40, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, in the Sims 2 disscussion it said Snootysims is a reliable source 82.33.125.160 (talk) 15:19, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if SnootySims IS reliable, wikipedia has a strict policy on fansites, and that is that they CAN NOT serve as citations. Johnnywalterboy (talk) 00:42, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I said in the "Snooty Sims" section below, but it seems I was the only one in favor of removing all "Snooty Sims" citations (and related statements).  That's why I left it there. -- Lyverbe (talk) 14:16, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs

message: I have seen the name of the developer changed many times, but they still use the same source, a record from gamestop listing the developer as EA Redwood Shores. Either the name or the source needs to be changed, because they don't match up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.192.28.83 (talk) 13:44, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a constant debate regarding EA workplaces.  Same goes for "EA Vancouver" vs. "EA Blackbox".  Many EA related pages have this issue between Wikipedian.  -- Lyverbe (talk) 13:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Name of the developer

message: Someone put that sims could go barefoot, with a citation so people would think it is true. The citation goes the the official site, where it says nothing of this. Please remember that placing these false-citations in order to prove a point is a form of vandalism, and I will report the next user or IP to do this. 
Johnnywalterboy (talk) 04:46, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: When the citation was added there was a page on the site which clearly showed a barefooted sim. That page has since been changed when the site was updated. The citation was merely out of date rather than an act of vandalism. 196.209.202.105 (talk) 19:11, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone mentioned that changing Sim height is available, which has not been verified, with a citation to the official site.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.0.117.121 (talk) 21:48, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Johnnywalterboy, even if information were true and had a citation it would still get deleted, I'm sorry but some people think they can control everything even if the person has done the right thing. so following the rules is just as much of a crime as breaking them? thats what some users do.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.170.92.142 (talk) 20:04, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  False Citations 

message: There are some issues with this page.
People are putting "gameplay", when gameplay is not a word. Please put game play or game-play.
:Gameplay is spelled correctly, or at the very least, it's commonly known and acceptable. -- Lyverbe (talk) 13:38, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling and grammar issues

message: Every time I try to get onto this page, my IE window crashes. 80.43.38.108 14:28, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: IE, lol. 58.165.27.1 (talk) 08:54, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Whats so funny about IE?  IE = Internet Explorer, 58.165.27.1 if you don't know what it means why laugh?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.170.92.142 (talk) 19:59, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think he's laughing that someone's using IE, not because he didn't know what it meant. :P  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.69.78.69 (talk) 09:36, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Page Crash

message: ...has anyone noticed? It is down!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.238.88.55 (talk) 14:37, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No it's not. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 16:45, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There were a lot of technical issues on the first couple days.  The site crashed for lots of people.  It seems to be fixed for the most part.  Phoenix1304 (talk) 18:23, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: For me, it just wouldn't display, but reloading would fix it. -- Noneofyourbusiness (talk) 22:23, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Site is Down... 

message: Yes, i previouslly here Maxis was on the development of The Sims 3, and now i see EA Redwood Shores, i don't understand. who is developing, EA Redwood Shores or Maxis? help me please! (i think it is better put TBA.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.207.145.101 (talk • contribs) 
:Maxis is the part of EA Redwood Shores. (look here - Maxis) --Monthstay (talk) 12:11, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: While they were acquired Maxis refers to the team who works with Will Wright, in most cases, rather than an actual developer. The official developer most game sites have is EA Redwood Shores, which is the Sims division of EA. Maxis, the name, is not used at all and is not the developer. Source: http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=company&mode=79643&sort=title&letter=T&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc 71.96.70.197 (talk) 19:07, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Maxis or Redwood Shores?

message: Did EA specify if this game will be released for consoles yet or not?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sage1989 (talk • contribs) 17:12, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The best place to check for this type of information is The Sims 3 website linked to in the article.  That being said, no.  But, FWIW, the site doesn't say anything about what platform the game will be released for, but generally everyone assumes Windows, I guess. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 17:19, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Console release? 

message: Wait, TS3 is using RenderWare as the graphics engine? Since when?? Also, has nobody read the Games For Windows article on TS3 and could possibly tell us who is developing TS3? Presumably it would be Maxis but it could be EA redwood or some other studio, unverified report gives it as being Criterion (which makes no sense whatsoever) and rampant speculation has given way to the possibility that TS3 is being developed by a 3rd party. I'm guessing the game magazine coverage of TS3 would clear up who the developer actually is.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.215.187.40 (talk) 18:47, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Umm... the developer is Maxis! and... i think it is really the RenderWare.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.92.89.171 (talk) 19:56, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maxis refers to the team who works with Will Wright, in most cases, rather than an actual developer. The official developer most game sites have is EA Redwood Shores, which is the Sims division of EA. Maxis, the name, is not used at all and is not the developer. Source: http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=company&mode=79643&sort=title&letter=T&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc 71.96.70.197 (talk) 19:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Engine and Developer? 

message: This is to add to 74.215.187.40's concern. Maxis.com now only redirects to the Spore website.  No articles about this game even mention that Maxis is developing it, including this article's references.  Not to mention that none of the recent Sim games have the Maxis symbol either. I do not feel that this article should assume that the Maxis subsidiary, specifically, is working on this game.  Given the available public information, we only know that some part of EA is working on it, and nothing more.  To assume that the same developer who made previous games in the series has been shown incorrect in cases such as SimCity Societies.Therefore, I feel that the Developer box should not specify a subsidiary, whether that means to simply have it say "Electronic Arts" or have it ommitted until more solid evidence of the developer is made publically available. --C. Raleigh (talk) 19:06, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, as I mentioned above.  I feel more comfortable leaving it blank until we hear specifically who worked on it.  But EA isn't exactly forthcoming about who develops their individual products (for example, do you know who developed Rise of the Witch King and Kane's Wrath?  It wasn't EA-Los Angeles, but they take the credit).  If you feel obligated to put in a developer, I'm fine with EA Games.  I won't touch it, but it would be nice to find out who really developed it.  EA is a big entity and just saying "EA Games" is about as specific as saying you live in "America" as opposed to "123 Maple Tree Way, Gable Groves, CA". — Frecklefσσt | Talk 12:27, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maxis refers to the team who works with Will Wright, in most cases, rather than an actual developer. The official developer most game sites have is EA Redwood Shores, which is the Sims division of EA. Maxis, the name, is not used at all and is not the developer. Source: http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=company&mode=79643&sort=title&letter=T&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc 71.96.70.197 (talk) 19:11, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can Maxis really be considered the developer? 

message: Maxis is dead since they are in EA, since 2007 the Maxis logo was removed from The Sims franchise !
It's no longer Maxis but it's EA Games only.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.52.208.241 (talk) 13:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am completely aware of this, as pointed out in my comment below. If EA themselves no longer consider Maxis as the developer, so should this article. I am not certain why Frecklefoot is insistant on reverting the developer entry, as there is clearly not enough evidence supporting the current implication that Maxis is being credited as its own entity. I may discuss this issue with Frecklefoot or the Sims WikiProject later on. --C. Raleigh (talk) 03:02, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Pssh.  Okay, I guess I miss the idea of Maxis getting credit for their own products, even though they are now a wholly-owned subsidiary of EA (and have been for a long time).  I thought they still got separate development credit for the Sim products (and MobyGames says they do too).  But go ahead and put the EA Games stuff back in, I won't touch it. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 12:20, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand what Frecklefoot is saying. I myself wish the original Maxis was still the one responsible for the Sims series, but now the Sims team is completely assimilated with EA. At least we still have Will Wright's Spore team, which does still have some degree of autonomous control from EA. I also think EA is now crediting the Spore team as the new Maxis (since Wright is in it), though I cannot say for sure. --C. Raleigh (talk) 17:16, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So you wrote wrong infos, why you don't put the name all the companies bought by EA ;) ? Actually the original Maxis team doesn't completely work on the Sims series, I think most of them works on Spore so it's mainly the EA team who works on the Sims franchise, it's more logical to put the EA Games name instead of Maxis, don't you think ?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.247.125.69 (talk) 22:14, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maxis refers to the team who works with Will Wright, in most cases, rather than an actual developer. The official developer most game sites have is EA Redwood Shores, which is the Sims division of EA. Maxis, the name, is not used at all and is not the developer. Source: http://www.gamespot.com/games.html?type=company&mode=79643&sort=title&letter=T&dlx_type=all&sortdir=asc 71.96.70.197 (talk) 19:12, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong company infos ! 

message: An anonymous user keeps on adding PlayStation 3 to the platforms that the game will be released on. I've been reverting the edits because the user doesn't provide a proper source for this information (well, no source at all) but has anyone actually heard any specific info about this? All I've heard is that the "franchise" is being released on Wii and PS3 though didn't specifically state "The Sims 3". Swanny92 (talk) 12:09, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I remember reading an interview of the game concerning multiple platforms, and the interviewee stated that at this point the developer is focusing on making the game "the best it can be," so that implies that they are only concerned with the PC version at the moment. --C. Raleigh (talk) 20:32, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt the game can be ported verbatim to any game consoles.  The game is really designed for use with a mouse.  As can be seen with the current console titles, they use the same brand, but are different games. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 16:29, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Now there's a proof the game will also be Released on PS3 and X360.  http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/strategy/thesims3/index.html and http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/strategy/thesims3/index.html.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.68.8.165 (talk) 16:22, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I hardly call that "proof", but rather assumptions on GameSpot's part.  There is no reliable evidence that it is slated for either platform. I'd wait for a press release or some other official announcement by EA. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 16:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly.  I just removed it from the platform list, as further information and less assumption is needed.Sage1989 (talk) 16:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Sims 3 on PS3 

message: Lots of juicy info here:
http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/sims-3/307400-latest-sims-3-news.htmlAutonova (talk) 13:32, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Good external source

message: December 15th, 2009 is the release date for The Sims 3, you can found it here: http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?pager.offset=3&cId=3168651 -- Iblis Trigger (talk) 11:03, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I rather have an official statement from EA than something coming out of some unknown editor. -- Lyverbe (talk) 11:35, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. There is far too much speculation with these kinds of articles. Gamesites and shops like gamestop, etc generally don't get that much of a heads up that a game is coming, not before it is announced by the company. Let's not forget how many times amazon and the rest revised their release date of TS2 before it was out.--221.143.25.19 (talk) 07:08, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Release date

message: When I say a bit, I mean a lot... :D http://www.snootysims.com/thesims3index.php?id=info
Look at it - it has tons of information... :) 21:15, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can easily create a similar page saying "They will have the ability to kidnap you and eat you".  My point is: If it's not official from EA, it can only be rumours.  Anyone can build such a "trait" list.  -- Lyverbe (talk) 02:21, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh... Sorry... :(  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eurotom1234567890 (talk • contribs) 10:54, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I heard that Vain or vanity would be one of them. In an interview with one of the creators, he said his wife was helping him create him, and she picked a whole bunch of nice stuff and then 'vain'. I was laughing. We know EVIL, klepto, workaholic, over-emotional for sure right? Like in videos and interviews and such. There's that same sorta list here too: http://www.thesims3.fangree.co.uk/articles.php?article_id=7 Pretty much the same. Thanks for the site btw! (LadyCakeage (talk) 02:30, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I heard that the Sims have to learn how to read. Is that relevent? http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/sims-3/307400-latest-sims-3-news.html (LadyCakeage (talk) 00:56, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Just a bit of Stuff

message: People who are adding songs to the list along with "Citation needed" don't understand what it means.  "Citation needed" = "Where did you get that info?".  Don't add the song *WITH* "Citation needed", but specify where you got the info.  If you don't, your addition to the article will be considered unsourced and removed. -- Lyverbe (talk) 21:03, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed it entirely.  It's pure drivel when every song has the tag next to it.  I'll watchlist it and remove any more additions. hbdragon88 (talk) 04:24, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Music

message: The article on The Sims 3 says that their might be online multiplayer and also says TS3 may be released on Blu-ray. Yet neither are given a citation. Where's the citation or source for this information?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.215.120.106 (talk) 22:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think someone's being a little cheeky.--121.220.139.235 (talk) 14:16, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Multiplayer and Blu-ray format?

message: Theres a discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Sims/The_Sims_3#C-Class to move this article to C-Class.HereFord 01:11, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  C-Class 

message: The release date has indeed been confirmed, but this releasedate is not really a world wide release. North America gets the game on February 20th, whereas (some countries in) Europe will get it 1 day earlier, on the 19th. This is confirmed on the official Dutch EA Sims 2 site. This is because game releases in The Netherlands generally happen on a Thursday! -Jort227 (talk) 19:43, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, one is an official press release from EA stating "worldwide" release and the other one from an official EA website.  Hard to say who's right and who's wrong, but still, we're talking about a possible 1 day difference.  No need to sound the alarm :) -- Lyverbe (talk) 01:53, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Sims 2 local sites says February 19, 2009 for : Netherlands, Sweden, Finland & Norway !  -- Iblis Trigger (talk) 03:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: About Australia, just there is the EB Games Australia announcement which said February 12, 2009.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iblis Trigger (talk • contribs) 20:07, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it is true that this article said the game was coming out Feb 12 in Australia but, it turns out the speculation was just that.--121.220.139.235 (talk) 14:23, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  World wide release 

message: First, I hate that table :)   Second, it's confusing.  It now says the release date is Feb 19 at Netherlands, Sweden, Finland and Norway... "Except: Netherlands, Sweden, Finland & Norway".  Huh? -- Lyverbe (talk) 12:53, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, maybe it's too early to use a table, but it looks good on the TS2 wiki page -- Iblis Trigger (talk) 20:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Thanks for discussing about this Hereford *sigh*  The first row is regarding the standard version which is already defined in the article's infobox, and that leaves the second row by itself.  I'd say this table is useless and should be removed. -- Lyverbe (talk) 19:50, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That section needs cleaned up or put in quote tags, it reads like a marketing release which isn't appropriate for here.--Crossmr (talk) 12:34, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I'm concerned, that section needs to be removed :)  But if it has to stay, it does need to be redone.  It was a lot worse yesterday before I edit it when it was clearly ripped text from some ad.  -- Lyverbe (talk) 14:08, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game editions 

message: Well for one Sims 3 for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 were TBA, and for two, when will there releace date be annouced because it was confirmed that it would be on Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 alot earlier in the year at it's annoucement on March 19th 2008, and that has been taken down, just needs more info on console versions. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 15:51, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3?

message: Will The Sims 3 be released for Wii?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Theface102 (talk • contribs) 16:27, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Does it say "Wii" in the infobox next to "Platforms"? :P  No, there's no plan to release it for the Wii.  Maybe it's due to the complexity of the game. -- Lyverbe (talk) 00:51, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Sims 3 on Wii? 

message: Whats up with the red Snooty Sims wikilink in the bottom? 212.59.23.166 (talk) 11:25, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm?.--SkyWalker (talk) 11:49, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was there.  I removed it.  Look in the change history. -- Lyverbe (talk) 16:24, 22 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Agreed for a removal, I would rather see accurate or no information rather than heresay. Dark verdant (talk) 10:01, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've already said this above, in the Sims 2 disscussion, they say, and I quote, 'SnootySims has been a well-known site in the Sims Community for more than five years. It has been a reliable source for the new flyers in the past. There's always a risk that a source is inaccurate, but the same can be said about any non-fiction book and those are usually accepted as excellent sources. If we're at a reasonable level of certainty that the flyer is real, then it is a publication by EA of an upcoming expansion and therefore a valid reference.'for proof go here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:The_Sims_2#The_Sims_2:_Apartments  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.33.125.160 (talk) 15:24, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Such a comment signed by an inactive account doesn't look interesting.  But hey, I'm just expressing my opinion on Snooty Sims to see how the majority feels about it.  I'm not in favor of using it as some official source of information, but if I'm alone in this, we'll keep using it. -- Lyverbe (talk) 19:36, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Snooty Sims 

message: http://forums.electronicarts.co.uk/sims-3/354695-sims-3-producer-day-report-pictures-pg-2-a-2.html (Taken from a Sims 3 Producer Day ALL FACTUAL)Alex250P (talk) 00:29, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I first thought of undoing this change since it looks like forum stuff, but I suppose it could be used to improve the article. -- Lyverbe (talk) 02:32, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sims 3 producer day

message: Walkthrough - has gameplay info. JAF1970 (talk) 07:16, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I added information to this article(after watching producer walkthroughs), mentioning all the things in the game but most of the information still got deleted, i even cited it. Well users think they can delete my information and give a vague reason for doing so. I contribute to wikipedia, do the right thing and still get punished.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.170.92.142 (talk) 20:10, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Producer walkthrough

message: I am not sure if we have an article on characters from this franchise, but a reference I recommend if we do is “The Sims 3: The Rise and Fall of Arnie the Sim,” Game Informer 187 (November 2008): 106-107.  As the title of the article suggests, this preview of the game focuses on that character.  Best, --A NobodyMy talk 16:03, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Characters?

message: Do information from Producer Walkthrough Videoes (Gameplay Videoes) count and information that can be added to this article? since it is very likely to be in the final product of The Sims 3 game.
There are things here and there that could be mentioned in the article but i'm affraid that the information might possibly get deleted. So do they count as information that could be added toward The Sims 3 article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.231.215.153 (talk) 16:12, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Videos are as valid as any other source, just as long as it's from official people.  A statement from some unknown fan on YouTube is not a reliable source, but it is from an offical producer of the game. -- Lyverbe (talk) 17:04, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So if the information is coming from the producers mouth and you see it moving then it's a reliable source??--58.170.82.77 (talk) 09:48, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.  Actually, it's even better than anything else because websites can be made by anyone compared to a video of official people themselves.  If the timestamps can be added to the ref comment (ie. "Mentionned at 8h32s in the clip"), it would help too. -- Lyverbe (talk) 11:43, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Producer Walktroughs Count As Reliable Information? 

message: There's a kind of preview of The Sims 3 available on The Times Online website and features one of its producers. I haven't contributed to this article (haven't even read it yet) so I'd rather add the link here than in the article itself. It just discusses main features etc. :) londonsista Prod 02:11, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sims 3 preview video 

message: I read this image caption and wonder, WTF is a UPC? - 218.111.48.86 (talk) 19:39, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've decided to bring this up again because it demonstrates how much Wikifag bureaucracy has affect logic on what course of action to take. This comment was originally posted in a harsh manner to find out if someone would actually add an explanation of an abbreviation that is obviously not known to a lot of people into the image caption. Instead, this topic was removed not long after (having been cited as forum spam)  and its question was left unresolved, while the image was deleted altogether due to fair use guidelines a week or two later . Thanks, fellow Wikifaggots. You have demonstrated once again that Wikipedia is muddled in too much rules and guidelines that it couldn't figure out what to actually do. - 60.50.251.21 (talk) 07:01, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image caption. 

message: Just so everyone knows; Internet Explorer 6 users can't view or click the "hide/show" link. For instance I go to view the System Requirements on this article. Well I can't because the "hide/show" doesn't come up.--60.231.219.21 (talk) 08:21, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ...and you are still using IE because...? :)  It's time to move forward and switch to Firefox!  But your point is interesting thought.  Since the "System Requirements" is pretty big and has its place in the infobox, I don't believe it should be repeated in the article.  Perhaps we could add something in the "Development" section saying "The game is set to run on average PC settings" with a ref to the system requirements page? -- Lyverbe (talk) 16:00, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Article 

message: From ESRB: Rating summary: This is a life simulation game in which players can customize and control avatars (Sims) through several stages of life and its daily activities. Players are free to pursue a variety of goals as they observe and attempt to influence and nurture families of Sims. These avatars often interact socially, which can sometimes lead to mild flirtation or more intimate encounters. Players can choose to "try for a baby" or "WooHoo" with another Sim – the later option being available to both heterosexual and same-sex couples. These two actions cause the selected avatars to jump into bed and go under the covers, where they wriggle, giggle, and moan until confetti bursts over the bed. Sims characters need to maintain their health and hygiene and do so by eating, exercising, bathing, and using the toilet, which is depicted by a blurred, pixilated effect and trickling sounds. Avatars can also vomit, emit flatulence, and wet themselves if no toilet is available or offered. As in real life, Sim characters can die of old age; they can also die as a result of neglect or starvation. Certain animations depict the avatars dying in fires, drowning in pools, and getting electrocuted by household appliances. 
There's some info there not in the article (ie. same sex marriage and sex return in The Sims 3, etc.) JAF1970 (talk) 23:59, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It does not actually state same sex marriage, it does whoever state same sex sex. 86.89.102.98 (talk) 21:40, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Are you saying it'll just have gay sex, without Sims 2's marriage and adoption options? JAF1970 (talk) 03:16, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  No :) I'm only saying that the text you quoted does not state that.I'm pretty sure that it will be possible,but the text just does not say that,my point with that is, that the text shouldn't be used to support the marriage part in the article. 86.89.102.98 (talk) 07:51, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: ESRB description

message: Someone keeps changing the release date to March 26th.  From everything I've read, it's still February 20.  Is this March release date some valid rumor or is the guy just a vandal? — Frecklefσσt | Talk 13:21, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If the user doesn't provide a reliable source, it remains Feb. 20 since this date does have a reliable source. -- Lyverbe (talk) 17:46, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Release date

message: Don't suppose we could get some more information on the technical aspects, the engine it's running and such, or any information on how it was developed. Just something on a more technical side, as this article focuses on the in-game features too heavily.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.106.110.97 (talk) 14:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technicals 

message: Ummm....what exactly happened to all the old discussions for this page?
Some of them WERE still in progress. It's very rude to just go about removing
discussions nilly willy as if you own this page or something!
And, it's not protocal to EVER remove discussions, unless it's your userpage and you choose to do so. Keep this in mind, okay? Thanks! Johnnywalterboy (talk) 20:59, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh! I apologize! I didn't see the archive! Sorry! Wow, silly me! Again, sorry! Johnnywalterboy (talk) 21:00, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Still, the archives should have been done better than just a complete move/rename of the talk page.  When I do them, I only archive the topics that haven't been touched for at least a month.  We also lost the history.  Not neat. -- Lyverbe (talk) 23:50, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: When I archive a page, I always take the current content and cut & paste it to an archive page.  Archiving in-progress conversations shouldn't be done, however.  The history can still be accessed.  It's right here on this page. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 01:32, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as everything still exists in one form or another, I think the current talk page is fine. Most of the archived discussions were resolved anyway. 75.28.55.71 (talk) 05:53, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old Discussions? 

message: How does all this "Citation Needed" business work when the game is released? How do you provide a ref for something that is in the game but not on web pages? Do you provide a ref saying in-game?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.182.224.50 (talk) 15:28, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately I believe you cannot use the primary material as a source so you won't be able to use it as a reference. However I imagine once the game has been released, everything that is important to know regarding in-game features will be on the Sims 3 official website. I imagine you could also use the game guide as that should contain everything you need to know as well. Dark verdant (talk) 16:01, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems like a strange policy. So you can't cite a book on a page about that book to say something is in the book? You have to wait until someone online says that thing is in the book to cite that website so you can add a fact to the page?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.185.175.158 (talk) 09:33, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  in-game info? citation needed still? 

message: I'm a little surprised that this article doesn't mention why it's being developed by  EA Redwood Shores rather than Maxis. Is there any known reason? (Other than Spore.) RobertM525 (talk) 20:20, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Take a look in the archives.  This issue has been discussed many times in different sections. -- Lyverbe (talk) 14:57, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maxis involvement 

message: I don't think it's accurate at this stage to describe the release date as TBA. The EA UK site never had the release date added to the page, but the only official word regarding the date straight from EA is the 20th August news article.
Also, on another official EA Sims 3 site advertisement 2 of 9 on the front page still shows a release date of 20/2/09http://thesims2.co.uk/pages.view_frontpage.asp, with less than a month to go before the release date.
I'm aware that there has been much speculation regarding the release date today, sparked by the following comment:
"We are currently evaluating the launch window. The game looks great and in the near future we'll have more information."http://www.totalvideogames.com/The-Sims-3/news/Sims-3-Delay-On-The-Cards-13631.html
This comment has appeared on some gaming news sites, but none of them seem to cite a source. Some say it was a "statement" issued by EA, but they do not say who issued the statement, and I couldn't find it anywhere other than this handful of gaming news sites (for example, it does not appear on EA's press site).
The uncertainty should be discussed in this article (which I am unable to edit), but I think to change the release date in the right column until the information actually comes from EA is to repeat what is, for now, just a rumour.
Tinkerbell1987 (talk) 23:26, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The UK site had the release date.  It was changed to TBA this weekend.  I rather go with the latest official changes than old news.  Of course, if I'm alone thinking this way, bring it back to Feb. 20 until we have another official press release or something. -- Lyverbe (talk) 00:09, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't edit the page, and the release date says 2/20/08, not 2/20/09 as it should be. Can someone change this? --Koyo123 01:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Mesaana: "Added release date. Confirmed by official EA website."  The source I provided was also from an official EA website, and it said TBA.  My argument is as good as yours.  I'm wondering how old news makes it better than recent news? -- Lyverbe (talk) 03:07, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Richard: EA's website http://www.eagames.co.uk/game/the-sims-3/ says TBA, http://thesims3.ea.com/ says 2009, the 20th Feb date stems from a 20th August 2008 press release, and until recently that was accurate, but when all the EA sites have now taken down that date and replaced with it TBA/2009, since that is much more recent than the 20th Feb release date announcement I don't think listing it as being released then is correct. 86.160.126.231 (talk) 09:52, 27 January 2009 (UTC)

text: The  template is for making specific requests; if this refers to the request by 86.160.126.231 above, that change has now been made. —Snigbrook 20:53, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, here it is from the official The Sims 3 website.  The release date is Feb 20th.  Does this count or has it been refuted somehow?  I think if they changed their minds, they would've taken it down. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 18:01, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I asked in Game the other day, and they said the release date was 20th February, although Amazon.co.uk and Game.co.uk both say June! I really don't know, but I hope it's February. KillerKat (talk) 00:47, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  The first rule is to stick with whatever the publisher themselves say, so we'll do that. As for hoping, I'd rather expect that the game is released in June and if it's released in February, then great, rather than hoping it's in February and then being disappointed when it's in June. Gary King (talk) 00:56, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release date TBA? 

message: I belive the Xbox 360 and PS3 ports are TBA, so I will list them aswell as PC and iPhone. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 14:58, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You didn't cite any reference that states that there will be Xbox 360 and PS3 ports.  We need a valid, reliable reference to make such a statement.  At this point, really only EA is an authority on this, not blogs, Sims fansites, etc. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 16:03, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither console platform has been even hinted at, much less confirmed. Also, given EA's relationship with Nintendo 
(SimAnimals, Spore, MySims all released on the Nintendo Wii/DS and PC.) Johnnywalterboy (talk) 03:41, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

text: I'm sure they were TBA until a few months ago, but I think they were scrapped for the near future, until they get the PC releace going, The Sims 3 will probally be releaced on consoles, but I doubt it will the Wii, as the Wii is a last generation console, and the Xbox 360 and PS3 are next generation, the Wii is most likely not powerful enough to play a next generation game, that would be like porting GTA 4 over to the Wii, the Wii is simply not powerful enough, which is why I doubt the Sims 3 being ported on to the Wii, but not home consoles all together, expecially when you consider that the Sims 1 and 2 were on home consoles. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 23:08, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless of how powerful the Wii is it is a current gen console. 86.165.156.154 (talk) 11:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Well ok then, how come GTA 4 is a current gen game and never got a port on the Wii, I belive it is because it is to powerful to be releaced on the wii. Care to prove me wrong? mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 11:29, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't really the appropriate forum to discuss such things.  The only things that should be discussed here are ways to improve the article. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 00:48, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Ok so for now, until EA says anything new about the Sims 3 console ports, the topic is closed? mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 17:53, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No.  This isn't the appropriate forum to discuss the power of one console versus another.  It isn't up to us to debate or try to second guess why EA may be porting a game from one system to another or why. If it's hotly debated from a reputable source and is noteworthy, it can be referenced and included in the article. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 18:02, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Xbox 360 and PS3 ports

message: The following is listed as a reference:
"9. ^ a b Broham, Steve (18 July 2008). "The Sims 3: First Preview". The Sims Resource. http://www.thesimsresource.com/article/sims3. Retrieved on 28 November 2008."
This guy's name is Steve Bonham, not Broham, as you can see on The Sims Resource staff page: http://www.thesimsresource.com/helpcenter/staff . Could somebody correct that? Tinkerbell1987 (talk) 20:36, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 20:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Misspelt surname in reference

message: The new, official box art can be found here: 
found directly from EA website ()  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Maleheffer (talk • contribs) 22:13, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Box Art 

message: Well The Sims 3 To My Knowledge Is Being Released February 16th Because OF The Website http://www.gamecrazy.com/games/game.aspx?id=13740&LF=STL So Check it Out um Don't Believe This http://thesims3.ea.com/view/pages/newsItem.jsp?item=1183392783 It Says It SHIPS WORLDWIDE ON JUNE 2ND IF YOU LIVE IN THE NJ AREA THEN IT IS BEING RELEASED FEB 16 2009  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Trickstarbeckyrr (talk • contribs) 22:38, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That website might not have been updated. If it was a news item that was released after EA's press release, then I would think twice, but in this case, it's most likely outdated. Gary King (talk) 23:23, 5 February 2009 (UTC)

text: You're telling us not to believe an official source? From the actual makers? I don't understand. Why would the first website know what EA don't? Dark verdant (talk) 11:21, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

text: I think we've encountered a troll here.  He wanted to evoke such a response with his ridiculous post.  Don't feed the trolls. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 14:01, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: But if I don't feed them they wont be distracted enough for me to cross the bridge. Dark verdant (talk) 13:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

text: I've read both the wiki troll thing and both of those two posts, and I don't thing this user that you are all are talking about is trolling cos I read those two posts and I think they are pretty beliveable, it may be offial infomation, maybe The Sims 3 is coming out on the 16.2.09, I'lld look into it, but I must note that when I read the Winter '08 argos catoulouge it said The Sims 3 comes out 20.2.09, I recon that someone should look into this. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 15:42, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  GameSpot has updated their release dates to June 2nd; a website that I trust a whole lot more than GameCrazy. Gary King (talk) 16:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Now I know that the Sims 3 releace date data is meant to be coming from EA and only EA, and I know EA said the releace date is 2.6.09 but, this link on gamespot says that The Sims 3 will be releaced on the 5.6.09 rather than 2.6.09, so that should be considered for change. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 21:15, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, please check this. It's clarified there (by GameSpot). Gary King (talk) 21:18, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Wait, I've checked this and accroding to the infomation givin by gamespot, It states that the Sims 3 releace date is 2.6.09 North America, and 5.2.09 Europe, if that's the case then it should be edited to NA 2.6.09 and EU 5.6.09, if there are no more delays that is. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 21:22, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay, so I guess we're cool now, after the recent edits. Gary King (talk) 21:34, 12 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Yep, sure are. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 23:00, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  SIMS 3 New Realease date In NJ  

message: Why does the picture of the cover have a mac and PC emblem...?
Will the disk be a duel platform game?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.4.155.203 (talk) 13:52, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the game will be formated for both types of computers. Johnnywalterboy (talk) 03:38, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question? 

message: The article doesn't include the system requirements, which I think are very important to any computer game.   
This is what the sims 3 website says: http://thesims3.ea.com/view/pages/newsItem.jsp?item=236875146
FOR WINDOWS XP
 
Windows XP (Service Pack 2)
2.0 GHz P4 processor or equivalent
1 GB RAM
At least 6.5 GB of hard drive space with at least 1 GB additional space for custom content
128 MB Video Card with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
FOR WINDOWS VISTA
 
Windows Vista (Service Pack 1)
2.4 GHz P4 processor or equivalent
1.5 GB RAM
At least 6.5 GB of hard drive space with at least 1 GB additional space for custom content
128 MB Video Card with support for Pixel Shader 2.0
For computers using built-in graphics chipsets, the game requires at least:
Intel Integrated Chipset, GMA X3000 or above.
2.6 GHz Pentium D CPU, or 1.8 GHz Core 2 Duo, or equivalent
0.5 GB additional RAM  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.33.241.177 (talk) 23:50, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The system requirements are in the Development section, under the heading titled "System requirements". Gary King (talk) 04:23, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  System Requirement 

message: Where did this come from? It has still not been confirmed by EA that TS3 requires an intel-based Mac. 193.91.240.134 (talk) 11:21, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It was added here. In any case, I'm assuming that the editor just assumed it, considering there hasn't been software released for the PowerPC in a while I think? At least, nothing too major. Gary King (talk) 16:29, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mac System Requirements 

message: Sp was this game released in Australia already? Or is the sentence in the lead a mistake? Is the fact that they didn't update a past release date for one area one of the most important things about this game?YobMod 11:42, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like a mistake.  I highly doubt Australia has it already.  It'll be a simultaneous worldwide release. Someone needs to look into this.  I'd do it, but I have other fish to fry at the moment. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 13:48, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Dunno, If I get a spair minute I'll google this one, but I'm pretty busy like. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 23:33, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Don't worry! I'm on it. mcjakeqcool Mcjakeqcool (talk) 11:46, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Australia has ''The Sims 3''!

message: I want to nip this in the bud.  A user added a "Promotion" section and I copyedited, but then Big Bird removed the whole section (a good move, I think) since the whole section read like a press release from EA.  Another user just added it back in again.  Should we have it or no?  I vote no; it just sounds too much like an ad.  At most, it should be a sentence or two, not a whole paragraph.  Anyone else? — Frecklefσσt | Talk 17:42, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I vote no too.  Perhaps merge it as a single line somewhere in "Release", but I don't believe it's worth having its own section. -- Lyverbe (talk) 19:30, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, my revert of the Promotion section keeps getting reverted by anons (it looks like different anons, based on the IP addresses).  I don't want to break the 3 revert rule.  Does anyone else want to weigh in on this?  How are we supposed to handle a bunch of anons messing with the article? — Frecklefσσt | Talk 15:37, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we've now reached an agreement to satisfy everyone. -- Lyverbe (talk) 16:36, 26 March 2009 (UTC)

text: I see you've shortened the section to just about two sentences as I mentioned above.  Thanks, that's all it deserves. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 17:53, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Promotion?

message: Pets are included in Sims 3.  This should probably be mentioned in the 'features from previous expansion packs' paragraph.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.203.63.140 (talk) 00:38, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a valid reference? I can't find one apart from speculation on forums. Jozal (talk) 14:58, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Amazon.co.uk has a section called "Manufacturer's Description" on their Sims 3 product page.  This information is presumably submitted by EA.  It says "Instant expansion: The game includes many feature from the The Sims 2 expansions from the off, including personal inventories, pets, private cars, restaurants and gardening."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.203.63.140 (talk) 01:03, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I see it. It seems to check out. I'm not entirely sure if Amazon is a verifiable source though. Jozal (talk) 14:40, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, there will not be pets unless Amazon were talking about the fish and insects you could catch. (see the collections blog)82.46.73.110 (talk) 06:17, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: so regular pets weren't mentioned in any sims 3 blogs or anything? corazón del fuego 23:33, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pets 

message: I was just reading and saw that the development box was a bit of a mess yesterday, fixed it up. and wanted to say thanks for whoever changed DRM to software copy protection to make it clear :) -- The One and Only Alborzb (talk) 08:35, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development Box 

message: Why has no one mentioned DRM/copy protection in the article?
According to this: http://www.info.ea.com/artwork/2009/04/na-1-20090430170416/140a2bf666582fd4/ts3_store_faq_final_04_30_09.doc
Q: Is there copy protection on the disc?
A: Yes, we have the same level of copy protection on disc as what shipped with the original The Sims 2 base game.
Q:How is copy protection for The Sims 3 different than for Spore?
A: The key difference is no online authentication required to play the retail disc product.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hintswen (talk • contribs) 05:36, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Uhh... it is?  See here . And here's the reference used  Jozal (talk) 09:20, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: oh oops, I just did a search for DRM on the page and didn't actually read it >_> Hintswen (talk) 09:40, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough :) Jozal (talk) 09:45, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

text: SecuRom is indeed packaged with the hard copy (disk version) of the game.  It's also a stealth install job.  You'll have to hunt it down to remove it once you install the game.  Fun times.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.61.149.175 (talk) 17:00, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What you mean to say is that The Sims 3 retail is still "protected" by SecuROM, but only as a disk based protection!? I thought they will be back with SafeDisc? Can anyone verify this? In that case I won't buy the game. Triadwarfare (talk) 08:19, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  DRM/copy protection 

message: As we are now only a few weeks away from the release of The Sims 3, and more information about the game is being released thanks to the many reviews being posted on-line I have tidied up the article a little Darth Jadious (talk) 11:16, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ...and how telling us this in the talk page will improve the article?  regardless, you've only made minor changes and one of them has a typo. -- Lyverbe (talk) 11:30, 15 May 2009 (UTC)

text: I'm with Lyverbe on this, though thanks for trying. Jozal (talk) 12:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Tidy Up

message: The Sims 3 can not be found right now in stock for the Wii in the per order zone. So if you have any complains well.. blame the internet!!!! I have looked all over he internet and could not find the per order of the Sims 3 in Wii! so if you HAVE found a Sims 3 per order for the WII!!! then please put it on Wikipedia and tell the web site you found it on!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.173.59.48 (talk) 04:07, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Sims 3 to per order on Wii 

message: If you look at the system requirements, the mac system lists separate requirements for "XP" and "Vista" - someone must have copy and pasted from the Windows section, so can someone lookup which is correct and sort it? 212.159.77.29 (talk) 15:51, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing this out and yes, I think it was copied and pasted, quite recently actually. I'll try and fix this in a minute. Jozal     (talk) 15:55, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

text: All done :) Jozal     (talk) 16:04, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mac / Windows Requirements 

message: I've slapped this with a  tag because this article contians way too much information about details of the game that non-players do not care about.  Remember, we write for the avg. person, not a fan.  We don't need intricate descriptions about how TS3 is different from TS2.  General things. hbdragon88 (talk) 23:08, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I reverted your edit until I saw this. I agree. Rolled back my edit to yours. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② talk 01:21, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  but isn't the avg. person going to use simple.wiki? T0rba (talk) 22:48, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Avg. person meaning a non-gamer.  Someone who has no clue what The Sims is about.  Simple is for ESL people and children. They would not, for instance, care about how the buy/build grid is now split into fours to enable Sims to place objects at however angle they want, unlike TS2...you get hte idea. hbdragon88 (talk) 01:42, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't the average person, non-gamer, who has no clue what The Sims is about, be more likely to view The Sims than The Sims 3? Dansiman (talk|Contribs) 04:07, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: while technically there is no such thing as an "average" user (too many different parameters to measure who is in the mean, median or mode), its obvious to me from the first paragraph that this is fan oriented. I dont need to know in the first paragraph that there is a special edition with a usb fob included, or whatnot. thousands of curious people want the basics in the first paragraph, even if they are hardcore gamers or sim 2 fans. i have played sims with some interest, have been obsessed at times with games, (d&d for 4 years, 76-80, so i have cred), but i also respect what WP is trying to do. details like this can be in the body of article, or in external links. im hesitant to do any edits, dont want a revert war, but remember its for the good of the article that it conform to wmos. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 02:09, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too much detail 

message: It's chock full of info, but I'm not sure what is really news or important. JAF1970 (talk) 12:20, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's relevant. Looks fine to me. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② talk 16:41, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I mean gameplay info. JAF1970 (talk) 17:25, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, ok, do you mean the gameplay info posted within the article itself or that which is posted in the Reception section because if its the latter, I personally think it is just fine, but as the former, I don't believe its too much information, per say, I just think it needs to be re-worded because it looks like it could've been written by a PR firm. ⒺⓋⒾⓁⒼⓄⒽⒶⓃ② talk 19:52, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Well, for one, you can toggle any gameplay feature on or off, such as aging and death. Where would that feature go? JAF1970 (talk) 14:15, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind - found a place for it. JAF1970 (talk) 01:37, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: PC Gamer review

message: Can someone include the system specs for OSX, as described at http://thesims3.ea.com/view/pages/feature6.jsp?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.125.202.67 (talk) 01:31, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Mac OSX Requirements

message: Under Software Copy Protection: "Some of EA's other recent PC titles, such as, Spore and Dead Space have" should be "Some of EA's other recent PC titles, such as Spore and Dead Space, have".
Gazok (talk) 17:08, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha fixed :) Jozal     (talk) 18:11, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar fail. 

message: The Sims 3 will be released June 4 in Germany and France (Source: http://thesims3.ea.com/view/pages/home.jsp?languageCode=de). So it's not June 5 for all of Europe. --P-Computer (talk) 14:10, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like whoever added it for Europe meant just the UK. Jozal     (talk) 14:12, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Consider this: http://ea.gamespress.com/product.asp?s=1105 01:38, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Dates