Talk:Enéas Carneiro

message: I relied heavily on the Portugese Wikpedia article for most of my information.  Not speaking a word of the language, I had to guess its meaning as best I could, with the help of Babel Fish (website).  Another source was this German article about PRONA.  I don't speak German either :P  If anyone can do a better job translating the Portugese article, or  knows more facts about this candidate, it goes without saying, please feel free to edit this article ruthlessly. LeoO3 03:27, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: He died yesterday, May 6th. --babbage 02:33, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Is he really considered extreme right in Brazil? I would have to say, from a Western (or at least NZ) point of view I wouldn't call him extreme right. Some of his policies are (atomics bombs, increasing military budget). Other's seem more left (nationalisation of mineral resources, opposition to free trade and globalisation). On that 2D chart thing that American Nolan Chart thing, I guess you really say he's a populist although not all 'populists' necessary believe in the merits of atomic bombs or even increasing the military budget... Nil Einne 18:43, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extreme right? 

message: This article originally said that he died at his daughter's home, however, the Portuguese article, from which I translated the paragraph about his death, states that Carneiro "went home" after deciding that his leukemia treatment wasn't resulting in improvements. It's a minor point, but I'm not sure whether he died at his home or his daughter's home. Going to see if I can track down that bit of information. --babbage 02:33, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location of death 

message: The previously unknown politician was placed 12th out of a field of 21 candidates - this seems to imply that he was totally unknown, which is false - his book on electrocardiology was nicknamed by brazilian medical students Eneas's Bible years before he even thought about running for dictatorship presidency. And he got the ridiculously small 0.5% of the votes, which is probably much less than the number of people who knew and admired him as a physician. Albmont (talk) 21:04, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Source: Daily journal of the national deputy chamber, published on 2008-04-01. Albmont (talk) 21:11, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Loaded sentence 

message: As requested and to provide onus, I'd like to bring to your attention that the passage "(...) which was usually seen as being far-right" is not accurate.
* IstoE (supposedly from IstoE but hosted in an archived version of Geocites?) — says "Have far-right ideas, but deny politics." - This is a personal piece of opinion hold by the journalist, not a fact. She doesn't discuss or analyses why she said this. 
* BBC Title says "The return of Enéas, icon of the far-right and Bolsonaro's 'hero'". Another WP:EDITORIAL with a personal point of view, which is actually about Jair Bolsonaro. Later in the article it says: "The military regime and Enéas represent a certain continuity, with some modifications, of a long route of this right-wing nationalism". 
We can use them to say "Author X said this; Author Y said that" but we can't report this in Wikipedia's voice, because what is verifiable is that the source expresses a view, not that the view is necessarily accurate. 
Now please check these sources (available online):
* Matos, Carolina (2008), "Journalism and Political Democracy in Brazil", Lexington Books, p. 295
* Deutsch, Sandra McGee (1999), "Las Derechas: The Extreme Right in Argentina, Brazil, and Chile", Stanford University Press, p. 323
* Mainwaring, Scott; Meneguello, Rachel; Power, Timothy J. (2000), "Conservative Parties, Economic Reform, and Democracy in Brazil", Johns Hopkins University Press, p. 180
* Esteves Galvão Lopes, Guilherme (2016), "Enéas Carneiro e o PRONA: nacionalismo e conservadorismo no Brasil pós-ditadura militar", Universidade do Estado do Rio de Janeiro, p. 1
* Handlin, Samuel (2017). State Crisis in Fragile Democracies: Polarization and Political Regimes in South America. Cambridge University Press. p. 126
* The Wall Street Journal (may be subject to pay-wall)
* Boston Globe
All of them describe Enéas and his party as being nationalist, conservative and/or right-wing and, except for The Wall Street and Boston Globe, they actually analyse in-depth his views and explain why he and his party was described this way. ErotsDaolpu (talk) 00:29, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Sources he is far-right; he denies. Still, stick to the sources. They are pretty clear on that. Coltsfan (talk) 00:48, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enéas's political spectrum