Talk:Nova (novel)

message: In both the original editions and reprints of Nova, Lorq's name is always spelled "Lorq Von Ray." When his last name alone is used, it is spelled "Von Ray," even when not at the beginning of a sentence. The "V" is always capitalized.
In common usage, "von" is not capitalized, but this article is not concerned with common usage. In Nova, it is. I'm changing the article to reflect the way the name is accurately spelled in the book. --76.16.163.91 (talk) 15:52, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Von" in Von Ray 

message: As much as I love the book, several portions of this article appear to written as promotions for individuals or as one person's essay on th book's themes.  --CRATYLUS22  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.177.115.170 (talk) 00:37, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promotional Tone 

message: "Additionally, in one scene, a character has a false tooth with poison gas hidden in it, an allusion to a scene in Frank Herbert's Dune".
I'm not sure it can be definitely stated as an allusion. Ruby's tooth doesn't contain poison gas but strychnine (p211). Tearlach 19:58, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I will then restore it by removing the word "gas," which is the most logical conclusion. And the allusion is clear, nor is Delany the only sci-fi writer to pay homage to Herbert by including this device. --L. 18:16, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The tooth

message: "Their goal is to make enough money to free their third brother, Tobias, from servitude".
Where does that come from? According to p.36, Tobias stayed of his own accord. "...we made ready to leave. But Tobias would not go. His hands had taken up the rhythms of the tides, the weight of ore become a comfort on his palms-." Tearlach 21:46, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This is extremely confusing - as you know from the end of the book, the arrival of the Illyrion shipment effectively puts Tobias out of work as a miner. The twins, in their "What Illyriom means to us" speech, imply that's why they're helping von Ray. However, I cannot think of a simple way to express this concept without giving away the end, which I'm trying to avoid. --L. 18:20, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Still, it doesn't seem a watertight implication, when it's explicitly stated that he had the option to leave with them and chose not to. Tearlach 00:01, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

text: If you had read the entire novel, this is confirmed - when confronted by Prince, the two reveal this earlier-hinted-at motive. Like I mentioned above, this novel is subtle. --L. 15:35, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: But this happens on p191, after Lorq's full agenda has been revealed. However they, like the other cyborg studs, offered to join Lorq's crew before he had told them his plan. Tearlach 21:42, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Tobias

message: I am questioning the statement that the threat to Ruby ("She knows what will happen to her . . .") hints at abuse. That was (and likely remains) a fairly common threat regarding punishment of any kind -- corporal or other. And while corporal punishment is considered less acceptable in society these days, it was much more common at the time the novel was written, and would not have been considered abuse. For all we (the unprivileged readers) know, he was going to take away her cell phone! I, for one, do not feel the statement in the book is strong enough to warrant the mention in the article. --Kdring 19:33, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abusive nature 

message: I don't see why it's necessary to mention that Delany is African-American. Nor do I agree with bringing in the term "mulatto" when describing Lorq. If it had been used in the text of the novel, that would be another thing, but it wasn't, so I don't really see the point. --Kdring 19:12, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Racial issues 

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replies: text: Fair use rationale added to image page. Dispute deleted. Kdring 19:01, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Nova(1stEd).jpg

message: I was able to find references to these papers, but not access them beyond a preview. If anyone has access to Project Muse () or Proquest (, , ), they might be worth a look, as might The Delany Intersection by George Edgar Slusser. Also, Tarot in Culture Volume 2, ed. Emily Auger, has a chapter on Nova written by Brian Johnson. CohenTheBohemian (talk) 15:34, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential sources