Talk:Barry Goldwater

message: This section is repetitive. Jack Upland (talk) 07:57, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Please offer a constructive suggestion for making the section less repetitive. Drdpw (talk) 15:44, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Combine the two references to Curtis Le May. They seem to be essentially the same.--Jack Upland (talk) 19:19, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I have trimmed the section some. Drdpw (talk) 14:03, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You have eliminated the problem just as some have apparently eliminated the LGM.--Jack Upland (talk) 02:50, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  UFOs 

message: User:Curbon7 has enforced consensus and reverted the new image I have uploaded for Goldwater's page. I thank them for doing so, for assuming my good faith, and for giving a reason for the revert. Because of this, I wish to amend the consensus with an image vote to replace Goldwater's long-standing image. I believe that Image B would serve better since it is much higher resolution, being 2,052 × 2,736 pixels large, compared to the current image (Image A) which is 576 × 789 pixels large, meaning that the image I wish to replace the consensus image with is 12 times larger. There is also the issue of quality. The Senate website has compressed the current image to the point of making it somewhat blurry. While the picture I wish to replace it with (B) isn't bullseye perfect, it is much higher resolution, and isn't nearly as compressed. 
I vote for Image B.
I withdraw the vote, I have found a higher resolution version of the first image.
Senator Goldwater 1960.jpg|Senator Goldwater 1960.jpg (Image A)
Barry Goldwater 1952 (cropped).jpg|Barry Goldwater 1952 (cropped).jpg (Image B)
 Mycranthebigman of Alaska ^_^ 18:09, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image vote 

message: Change "Barry Goldwater was fundamentally a staunch supporter of racial equality" (in the section "Local support for civil rights") to "Despite his vote against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, Goldwater supported local racial equality organizations in Arizona" Csb06 (talk) 05:43, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: This may be worth forming some consensus on and perhaps finding a source for, as it fundamentally changes the meaning of the sentence. The section already talks about specific work in Arizona, and his vote on the 1964 Act is mentioned later on in the section. Do you potentially have a source that links his vote as something that qualifies "staunch support"? Bestagon ⬡ 17:00, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should at least remove the terms “staunch” and “fundamentally” due to Goldwater’s vote against the Civil Rights Act of 1964. “Staunch” implies he was an unwavering advocate of civil rights, when in fact he voted against one of the most significant pieces of civil rights legislation in U.S. history. At the very least that deserves less absolute qualifiers. Csb06 (talk) 19:46, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I’ve edited the wording as well as included a quote from MLK drawing the distinction between his “support” for local civil rights from his voting record. GonzoTribune (talk) 21:59, 14 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. As mentioned above, some discussion may be in order. I agree that we should portray this matter accurately, but to do so, we will need reliable sources. Do you have any you could point us to? Actualcpscm (talk) 11:59, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replace controversial claim about Goldwater's support for civil rights with a more neutral sentence that contrasts his actions locally versus nationally