Talk:Julissa Gomez

message: Men did not do it in the 80s (by the rules).  Women also, prior to 82.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.82.57.163 (talk) 15:36, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It isn't so much that the Yurchenko is a dangerous vault (unlike the Thomas Salto, which was the trick Elena Muhkina broke her neck doing) as it is a difficult one.  Doing it without a U-shaped safety mat, though, is dangerous, because it's very easy to miss the springboard if your alignment on the round-off is off by even a small margin. This was Gomez's problem; she would start her round-off either too early or too late, causing her to either miss the springboard (too early) or hit it at the wrong angle and slip off (too late).  I don't think video footage exists of Gomez's actual injury, because then it would be obvious what her actual mistake was (did she start the round-off too early and thus miss the springboard entirely, or did she start it too late and thus have to rush landing feet-first on the springboard, which could have thrown her off-balance and possibly cause her to slip off the springboard?).  It's not the Yurchenko that's dangerous, it's faulty technique that makes it dangerous, which is why FIG insists on the U-mat being in place as a requirement.  Again, the Mukhina accident is a good comparison; Muhkina knew (and had in fact warned her coaches) that the Thomas Salto requires a great deal of strength to spring high enough into the air, a great deal of speed to get all the flips and twists in before landing, and near-perfect timing to do all of it and still have enough room to do a forward roll at the end.  Mukhina realized after she repeatedly failed to get the Thomas Salto right during practice that the risk of overrotating (thus landing on the back of the head) or underrotating (thus landing on the chin) was too great to continue trying to perfect the move, but was talked out of removing it from her routine by her coaches.  On the day of her injury, Muhkina underrotated the Thomas Salto, landed on her chin, and snapped her spine.  After a Chinese gymnast who attempted to do the Thomas Salto overrotated, hit the back of her head, and ended up so punch-drunk that she quite literally toppled over every time she tried to get to her feet, FIG removed it from its list of allowable skills for women.  The Thomas Salto is a dangerous element for women (and even for men, who have also been injured attempting it) and that is why it was banned for women. Scarletsmith (talk) 05:01, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  why not just noty allow the yurchenko? 

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