Talk:History of Shanghai

message: I attemptted to rewrite the first part of this article, up through the Chinese society section.  It's hard to place the events in this article on a timeline, thus I tried to mimick other "History of Cities" pages in China and use the Dynasty framework.  It was problematic at the end of the Quing Dynasty, which is relatively where I stopped.
If anyone has any better ideas, please go for it.  I may try to finish rewriting this article in a few days.  Judging by the grammar mistakes, my guess is that the article was written by a chinese government official, as someone had suggested earlier.Shawn (talk) 09:12, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There's still many non-specific time indicators that need to be edited out. For example, in the "Early Era" section has "which has only been recently irrigated" (confusing - was this pre-Ming or modern?); the "Ming dynasty" section starts with the word "later". I wouldn't mind helping, if you're amenable? Adevish (talk) 08:57, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite 

message: I went through the Early Era section and removed the "irrigation" references. They add nothing to the section and are confusing and unnecessary. We can add them in later if we find out they are necessary. I have this article on my watch list and will continue to work through the sections. Doctorfun (talk) 18:59, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Eh, it's pretty necessary. The place used to be a city of canals, so it's important to show when they came in and when they got filled in and turned into the mass of QQs and Audis we now all know and love. — LlywelynII 19:24, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Irrigation: Who needs it?

message: For interested editors helping out with the Shanghai improvements, I've been working on some of the railroad pages (a start on the Songhu Railway and a future article in the Woosung Road namespace) and stumbled across this site. It's a former version of the bizarre but lovely labor of love at Astor House Hotel (Shanghai) (apparently China's first western hotel) and its affiliate pages. There's a mass of images and information over there (>250k) about the Shanghailanders and their times. — LlywelynII 16:37, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Article expansion

message: I'll add one from the Astor House Hotel article, but the article needs more, ideally one every 50 years or so since 1800. Shanghai grew quickly and changed repeatedly over the years, with entire districts of streets and places being renamed after 1949. — LlywelynII 16:39, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Maps

message: One odd source for Shanghai history articles is the Hong Kong Directories, which at least in this 1859 edition provide information on all foreigners living in China, including those resident in Shanghai.
Here's the bibliography formerly at the end of the article. They're ok for stubs, but as articles get bigger and you need more inline cites anyway, it just becomes clutter and cover for unsourced claims. Ideally, people can look through these and add them back in as inline cites later:
*American Chamber of Commerce. (2001). Getting Shanghai on the right track. AmChat Newsletter (pp. 5–6).
* Shanghai. China Science and Technology Department. (2000). Report on high-tech industry development in Shanghai. Development Report on China’s New and High-tech Industry. Beijing: China Science Publishing Department.
*Balfour, Alan and Zheng Zhiling, Shanghai (Chichester 2002).
*Davies, J. (2002). Urban regime theory: A normative-empirical critique. Journal of Urban Affairs, 24, 1–17.
*Fujii, T., & Hartshorn, T. (1995). The changing metropolitan structure of Atlanta, Georgia: The locations of functions and regional structure in a multinucleated urban area. Urban Geography, 16, 680–707.
*Goodman, Bryna, Native Place, City, and Nation, Regional Networks and Identities in Shanghai, 1853–1937 (Berkeley 1995).
*Horesh, Niv, Shanghai's Bund and Beyond (Yale University Press 2009).
*Ji, Zhaojin, A History of Modern Shanghai Banking (New York 2003).
*Knox, P. L. (1994). Urbanization: An introduction to urban geography. Englewood Cliffs, NJ: Prentice-Hall.
*Lanning, G., & Couling, S. (1921) The History of Shanghai Kelly & Walsh Ltd.
*Leman, E. (2002). Can Shanghai compete as a global market? The China Business Review, www.chinabusinessreview.com, accessed 9/9/02.
*Lin, G. (2001). Evolving spatial form of urban-rural interaction in the Pearl River Delta, China. Professional Geographer, 53, 56–70.
*Ma, L. J. C. (2002). "Urban transformation in China, 1949–2000: A review and research agenda," Environment and Planning A, 34(9), 1545–1570.
*Ning, Y. (2002). "Globalization and the sustainable development of Shanghai," In F. C. Lo, & P. J. Marcotullio (Eds.). Globalization and the sustainability of cities in the Asia Pacific Region. Tokyo: United Nations Press.
*Ning, Y., & Yan, Z. (1995). "The changing industrial and spatial structure in Shanghai," Urban Geography, 16,577–594.
*Olds, K. (2001). Globalization and urban change: Capital, culture, and Pacific rim mega-projects. Oxford: Oxford University Press.
* Wasserstrom, Jeffrey N.  (2009) Global Shanghai, 1850–2010
— LlywelynII 23:59, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: Publications of Professor Hui LĬ
http://comonca.org.cn/lh/doc/publication.htm
47[D11] Yang Jun, Li Hui, Jin Jian-Zhong, Jin Li, Lu Da-Ru (2004) Genetics Analysis of Shanghai Aborigine with SNPs on Y Chromosome. Journal of the Central University for Nationalities 13(1):60-69. ◙
      [PDF fulltext ]  [Abstract]
http://comonca.org.cn/lh/doc/D11.pdf
46[D12] Li Hui (2004) The Ethnic Vicissitude in the History of Shanghai. Journal of National Dr. Sun Yat-sen Memorial Hall(Taipei) 13:168-179.
      [PDF fulltext ]  [Abstract]
http://comonca.org.cn/lh/doc/D12.pdf
http://www.comonca.org.cn/LH/Documents/D12.pdf
35[D10] Li Hui, Xu Li-Qun, Zhou Zhen-He, Zhang Ling-Jun, Jin Jian-Zhong, Lu Da-Ru, Jin Li (2003)  Historical Immigrations to Shanghai Suburb Based on Principal Component Analysis on Physical Characters and Surnames. J Genet Mol Biol 14(4):233-242.
      [PDF fulltext] [Abstract]
http://comonca.org.cn/lh/doc/D10.pdf
http://comonca.org.cn/LH/Documents/D10.pdf
Rajmaan (talk) 03:30, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical Indigenous population and migration to Shanghai 

message: What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 17:06, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Timeline of Shanghai]]