Talk:Slavic paganism

message: "He also mentions the belief in various demons and nymphs (ie vilas), but does not mention any other names."
Correct me if I'm wrong but I've read books where Procopius is said to mention "dragons" and later in the text labels them as "demons". 99.236.221.124 (talk) 07:05, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Correction

message: There are twenty-nine external links at the end of this article. That's too many. I'm sure that a lot of then are redundant, not very informative or dead. Given the subject matter of this article, I can understand some links being in Russian, Polish or other Slavic langauges but ideally there should only be links to sites in other languages if they contain material unavailable in English. --Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 15:43, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have reduced the number of external links to ten, all in English. A few links were dead, one was a list of gods and goddesses of sexuality without much reference to Slavic mythology and some apparently contained malware. --Simon Peter Hughes (talk) 04:54, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Excessive external links

message: Please do not mix solid archaeological and historical facts with neopaganist extrapolations. Staszek Lem (talk) 20:33, 29 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: As for these parts, I am sorry but the sources used are not related to neopaganism. Namely, 1) the part used as source from Ivakhiv 2005 is a chapter in which he discusses historical Slavic religion and folk religion, which comes before the chapter treating neopaganism (which is the culminating topic of his essay but which is not treated, and not used as source, in this article); 2) Dynda 2014 is an academic essay of comparative religion, so his interpretations fully fit the scientific cut of this article; 3) Ivanits' and Rybakov's calendar is not the neopagan one, but it is the calendar from folk religion. The insertion of the link to the neopagan calendar by user  was an undue addition.--Eckhardt Etheling (talk) 10:04, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. Staszek Lem (talk) 23:16, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It is impossible to tell what the basis for many of the interpretations in the article is, since all information on sources is removed. Srnec (talk) 23:22, 19 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Which 'interpretations' are you having problems with. The information on the sources is still in the history of the article if there is anything you consider to have belonged in the content but was 'removed'. The sources used for the reliably sourced content are self-explanatory (i.e., it's all referenced), therefore I'm having problems understanding what the issue is. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:02, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The primary sources. Only the Primary Chronicle is mentioned in connection with pre-Christian belief and practice. There are a couple vague reference to archaeology and "ethnographic evidence" (whatever that is), but no specifics. The article is also heavily biased to East Slavic practice: not a single reference to the paganism of the West Slavs rather amply recorded in 11th- and 12th-century sources. Srnec (talk) 22:57, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please do not mix with neopaganism 

message: The Brittanica article on this topic says it happened:  
Readers are likely to visit this article, curious, after hearing and learning about Igor Stravinsky's famous composition The Rite of Spring, which is about pre-Christian Russia and culminates in a terrifying depiction of a human sacrifice.  Odd not to take this issue on, even if just to debunk. Opus33 (talk) 20:34, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Why no mention of human sacrifice?

message: I'm copying the following material from Lada (goddess) – the information seems off-topic there, and this page seems like the most appropriate place for it. I have no idea whether it's accurate or relevant to any page, so I'll leave it here for interested editors to deal with.
Croatian ethnologist Vitomir Belaj studied a great number of songs of summer festivities from various Slavic nations. While not all of them contain exclamations to Lado, all of them do include a central character named Ivan or Ivo, meaning John, which is loosely associated with St. John the Baptist, whose feast day occurs in summer. However, the Ivan of these songs has almost no resemblance to the Christian saint: he is described as a young and handsome man, courting with young girls, and in one particular song he even explicitly refuses to baptise a young child presented before him, explaining he cannot do so because he himself is not a Christian. Belaj concluded that in these songs the name of Ivan stands in place of the name of an older Slavic god who was venerated at summer festival which later, after the arrival of Christianity, became the festival of St. John the Baptist. Belaj identified this lost god as Jarilo, a major Slavic deity of vegetation, harvest and fertility.
—Sangdeboeuf (talk) 09:53, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Belaj 

message: This entire article focuses almost entirely on Rus'/Russia and incorporates some very questionable assumptions about Pagan influence on various Christian practices. What, for instances, do the Bogomils or the popularity of Christian apocryphal texts have to do with paganism? And how do we square the fact that much information about Slavic deities is actually from the West Slavs? This article is in serious need of a rewrite.2601:85:C202:150:A9DB:C559:F5B:5A9 (talk) 15:29, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. It was re-written because the old article was a hodgepodge with poor sourcing. Unfortunately, while the sourcing is now good, the article as a whole is unbalanced and unhelpful. Srnec (talk) 19:31, 10 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Anonymous user, please note that the article has a "historical cut". The section about Christianisation is fundamental, because, as the sources clearly say, early Christianity, ancient pre-Christian religion, and sects deemed heretical by the Christian church, were all mingled together among the Slavs, and the pagan-heretical milieu later contributed to the rise of the various sects of "Old Beliefs". This has undoubtedly to do with East Slavs. If someone has WP:RS treating the development of paganism and Christianity among the Catholicised West Slavs, a chapter dedicated to this topic could be added.--Eckhardt Etheling (talk) 00:02, 31 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is this all about Rus'? 

message: The user  pretended to remove the template of Slavic Native Faith. I think that it should be leaved there. It's similar situation to that when historical Vedic religion have template:Hinduism. These topics are strongly corelated and from modern point of view the question of historical Slavic religion or just Slavic paganism is quite important in context of Slavic Native Faith, so it should be treat as subtopic. --Wojsław Brożyna (talk) 08:09, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but the Slavic Native Faith is not terribly important in the context of Slavic paganism. Putting at the top of the page is giving it undue weight. Srnec (talk) 00:21, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:Slavic Native Faith]] 

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message: It is currently being proposed that Category:Slavic countries and territories be deleted. This article is related to that category. The relevant discussion is located at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 8#Countries and territories by language family. The deletion discussion would benefit from input from editors with a knowledge of and interest in Slavic paganism. Krakkos (talk) 11:59, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed deletion of [[:Category:Slavic countries and territories|Category:Slavic countries and territories]] 

message: In regard to this - I think the sentence means to refer to Polabians, Obotrites and Pomeranian Slavs, not Poles. The info is legit but just presented in a misleading way. Volunteer Marek  23:33, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this paragraph makes no sense. I don't have that source, but quick look at preview I assume, that the author meant Polabian Slavs, not Poles or Czechs. But even Polabian Slavs kept their culture/language after christianity. Sławobóg (talk) 10:16, 19 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  IP edit 

message: Add the "sources" section (a reminder for myrself).  Noraskulk (talk) 12:32, 20 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: . Noraskulk (talk) 15:51, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

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message: In the 4th paragraph,the claim is made that the religion survived in Slovenia around the river Soča.After downloading the source I failed to find anything related to this claim. 89.146.131.14 (talk) 19:45, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Innacuracy in the "Overview and common features" part  

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