Talk:Ukrainian collaboration with Nazi Germany

message: Romania also occupied Soviet Ukraine. Would anyone oppose adding a section about collaboration with Romania and then maybe renaming the article accordingly? Like "collaboration with the Axis" or "collaboration with Nazi Germany and Romania"? Transylvania1916 (talk) 19:18, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I would object. A separate article titled Romanian collaboration with Nazi Germany would be a better idea. There's plenty of material available for a start class article.--FeralOink (talk) 21:34, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about Romania?  

message: This article is very important historically. It is highly visible in Google's search results, number one for most queries. I am removing the references needed tag from the lead and placing it further down in the article, where it is more appropriate. FeralOink (talk) 21:36, 20 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  I am removing the references needed tag 

message: Thanks for this famous article. There is a lot of research available, that should be included. I am missing main newer researches on this topic
John-Paul Hhimka: Ukrainian Nationalists and the Holocaust (2021)
I am just reading it
Per Anders Rudling: The OUN, the UPA and the Holocaust: A Study in the Manufacturing of Historical Myths, The Carl Beck Papers in Russian and East European Studies 2107 (Pittsburgh: University Center for Russian and East European Studies, 2011)
Per Anders Rudling: Rehearsal for Volhynia: Schutzmannschaft Battalion 201 and Hauptmann Roman Shukhevych in Occupied Belorussia, 1942
Jared McBride: Peasants into Perpetrators: The OUN-UPA and the Ethnic Cleansing of Volhynia, 1943-1944
Somewhere I read about a new book coming soon ...
Kai Struve: Deutsche Herrschaft, ukrainischer Nationalismus, antijüdische Gewalt (DeGruyter 2015) -just have this Book with 739 pages, will need some time to read it)
And a lot of more articles are available on academia.edu and researchgate.net.  Books/Papers and authors mentioned above maybe a good starting point. Martin Mair (talk) 10:46, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  New research should be included 

message: The title "Ukrainian collaboration with Nazi Germany" implies that the only collaborators in the divided territory of Ukraine were Ukrainians and has a certain anti-Ukrainian bias. As far as I am ware, no other groups have targeted articles such as this (edit, I stand corrected, Luxembourgish), and I've seen an uptick of using this article to attack Ukrainians. I suggest moving/renaming the article to something along the lines of "Nazi Germany collaboration in Ukraine" in an effort to maintain some neutrality.  LeVivsky (ಠ_ಠ) 18:59, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: This article describes the collaboration of Ukrainian in and outside of Ukraine. Many Ukrainians for example served as guards in concentration camps outside of Ukraine or in the killing squads active outside of Ukraine. There is also a history of Ukrianian collaboration inside Germany. See also: Byelorussian collaboration with Nazi Germany, Lithuanian collaboration with Nazi Germany Marcelus (talk) 21:16, 8 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Maybe look at Collaboration in German-occupied Poland and Collaboration in the German-occupied Soviet Union? "Collaboration in German-occupied Ukraine" seems like a reasonable phrasing. +JMJ+ (talk) 20:03, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: But the Collaboration in German-occupied Ukraine isn't the topic of the article.Marcelus (talk) 21:31, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: First line of the article is "Ukrainian collaboration with Nazi Germany took place during the occupation of Poland and the Ukrainian SSR, USSR, by Nazi Germany during the Second World War." The focus of the article is quite clearly collaboration within the boundaries of modern Ukraine.--+JMJ+ (talk) 19:44, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is translated into 9 languages and they all say the same thing, there is no reason to change it. Even the Ukrainian version, which is notoriously the most biased, the title is: "Ukrainian collaboration with Nazi Germany during the Second World War".--Mhorg (talk) 10:40, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move suggestion