Talk:Emily Remler

message: I just reverted back to "heart failure" for her cause of death, from "heroin overdose". There seem to be plenty of "web rumor"-class sources for the latter, but nothing reliable enough to make it open to controversy (in the Wikipedia world, in my opinion). Not to claim that the other web sources on her death seem all that reliable either, but all the really serious bios say 'heart attack', and the heroin idea seems to show up in web forums and the odd personal blog. If we can get something approaching a reliable source about the heroin, then by all means lets include it. Studerby 22:45, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a problem, I agree. Remler's family reported her death as "heart failure", which is like saying "she died", and covered up the overdose. Meanwhile, there are eyewitnesses -- such as the people whose house she died at -- who say it was an OD. So all of the "official" sources are wrong. I don't know how to remedy this problem within the Wikipedia rules.Verklempt 01:33, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: FWIW the Penguin Guide & Rough Guide to Jazz both list heart attack as the cause of death. -- But yes, within the jazz world the common knowledge or opinion or rumour is that it was an OD. --ND 00:26, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find a specific quote or paraphrase from the alleged "witnesses" in a reliable source to the effect that the death was directly caused by overdose, then you can just throw it in in the form of "Her death has been officially attributed to heart failure.1,2, etc.. However, so-and-so, in the newspaper/magazine/book so-and-so, attributed the death to a heroin OD." If you can't find anything reliable, you MUST leave it out. Period. BTW, we all ultimately die of heart failure anyway. The causes of heart failure are another question. It's interesting that there is still such an extraordinary stigma attached to drug abuse and overdose , as if it's a form of weakness of will or moral failing. This attitude it scientifically antiquated and quite repugnant, actually.--Francesco Franco 07:27, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cause of death

message: I don't see any obituaries? Where is she buried exactly? --Francesco Franco 15:12, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Obits??

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