Talk:Ukrainian People's Republic

message: The entry Petlura discusses the problem. It was rather the problem of the country than of Petlura. It should be mentioned here.
Xx236 13:05, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pogroms 

message: It should be interesting to create or find a map of the Ukrainian People's Republic !
Bogatyr 11:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is an original map of 1918, so maybe someone could use it as a basis or we can use the original version until something better is available - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1918._%D0%9A%D0%B0%D1%80%D1%82%D0%B0_%D0%A3%D0%9D%D0%A0.jpg Krispe13 (talk) 20:29, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: "As the result, the lands of Galicia (Halychyna), the western part of the traditional territory of Ukraine, as well as a large part of the Volyn territory had been incorporated into Poland, while the larger central parts of traditional Ukrainian territory, as well as predominantly Russian eastern and southern areas became part of Soviet Ukraine."
Prior to 1940-1950's eastern and southern areas of Ukraine didn't have significant russian presence. Migration of russians started after holodomor and more after the end of WW2.
:: The significant migration of the Russian population started after the anihilation of the Zaporizhian Sich during the so called "colonization of the New Russia". Besides the migration people from all of the corners of the Empire had to serve in the Russian Army. Gogol who was born in Ukraine all of a sudden became the famous Russian writer. The arguement is that he was born in the Russian Empire not the Ukrainian. No, brother, you're dead wrong on that. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 03:39, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other corrections 

message: I believe that we should mention the Ukrainian People's Republic in exhile.. and its related history. Should we create a new article Ukrainian People's Republic in exhile or just introduce the information here? I would rather have it here as its about the same entity only different status.. —dima/talk/ 21:37, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Would be good to have it here. I was just reading about the subject and decided to check the talk page if it was mentioned before. Sure enough. — Alex(U|C|E) 03:56, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Exile

message: I can find one page on the Sich Riflemen but no general page on the Army of the Ukrainian People's/National Republic. If it does exist, can the appropriate links be added to this article? If it does not exist, can anyone suggest the best way to start it? Jacob Haller 23:16, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's certainly an interesting topic to write about. Army of the Ukrainian People's Republic...-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  23:17, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Army

message: Say what? Who wrote this xxxx? I thought Lenin signed it (or rather Trotsky). "The treaty, signed between Bolshevik Russia on the one side and the German Empire, Austria-Hungary, Bulgaria and Ottoman Empire (collectively the Central Powers) on the other" check it here 
"Rada signed treaty." Rada might have signed one, but not the one of Brest-Litovsk. Aleksandr Grigoryev 01:40, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ukranian Tsentral Rada signed a peace treaty in Brest Febrary 9th, 1918. The Brest-Litovsk treaty was signed March 3th, 1918. After German-Ukranian peace treaty, germans conquered Kiev from soviets.--84.76.41.127 (talk) 16:46, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rada signed the Treaty of Brest-Litovsk??? 

message: I think the flag that is currently displayed is inverted. The navigation icon to the page has it right side up, so I think it is upside down, although I am no expert.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.104.35.112 (talk) 22:16, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that it's very weird one. I wonder if it symbolizes anything as well. Maybe the Black See? Is there any references about this flag?Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 01:05, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To the best of my knowledge, both of the flags were used for the UPR. —dima/talk/ 01:36, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

text: It is the way it's usually explained nowadays. Whether that is in fact a fact - who knows. Could be a nice folk tale, nothing more. 174.118.34.7 (talk) 01:21, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proper Flag 

message: Ukrainian People's (National) Republic was created within the Russian territory. Why is West Ukraine being shown as its predecessor? West Ukraine appeared in late 1918's and united with the bigger Ukraine in early 1919 when practically was defeated. 
How is Slovakia part of the Dnieper Ukraine? What about Moldova? Why is that country not mentioned, but Slovakia is? Why is Odessa Soviet Republic is not mentioned and all the other crazy and quasi-states, like DKSR and Halych Soviet Republic? What about the Denikins Territory? Makhnovishchyna was not even a state. There were many similar territories like that in Ukraine at that time: near Kiev - Otaman Zeleny, Kirovohrad and Kherson - Otaman Grigoriev. Is Makhno any special or what?
Also, constituent assembly has never taken place. Why to claim it as an actual legislature? 
Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 23:08, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The western republic preceded it since the country was officially founded when they united (kind of a rebirth). --Львівське (говорити) 00:51, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox 

message: "which esulted in many casualties". Here's an r missing. --Thathánka Íyotake (talk) 02:32, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Typo

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thread_title:  Commons files used on this page have been nominated for deletion 

message: This article indicates June 10, 1917 as the start of the republic, but the Ukraine article linking to this article indicates June 23, 1917.  Does anyone know why the difference?  The confusion wouldn't have anything to do with the switch of the Gregorian calendar, does it?. This is interesting to me on a personal level because I have a relative who was born on June 10, 1917 in Charkow. Tesseract501 (talk) 16:05, 28 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: 13 days is a bit odd, but 14 days would make perfect sense. The October Revolution 1917 is celebrated in Russian Federation one 7th of November. The reason for it is that until 1917 Russian Empire existed in an old calendar style, while Poland already adopted the new one. Which makes things like dates in 1917 a complicated topic for the history of Ukraine. Krispe13 (talk) 20:41, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates Differ Between Articles 

message: The first sentence states that the People's Republic of Ukraine “...was declared on 10 June 1917 following the February Revolution in Russia.” The infobox, however, gives 7 November 1917 as the date of the founding of the People's Republic, the same day as the October Revolution. So when was the formation of the People's Republic of Ukraine, 10 June or 7 November of 1917? (The Professor (Time Lord) (talk) 08:05, 7 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formation 

message: This page is lacking a proper digital map. Previously used map () showed territories claimed by the state on Paris Peace Conference (1919–1920) and not lands that were under Ukrainian control. Map used right now (file) shows actual (for the best of my knowledge) borders of UPR but its just a scan of old map (additionally in not the finest condition). Maybe somebody would be capable of providing better digitised map of actually controled lands of UPR? (Category:Maps of the Ukrainian People's Republic on Wikimedia Commons). Maybe we could do something based on  of Europe by changing a few borders and adding UPR. TheEditMate (talk) 21:13, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  We need better map for UPR 

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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover)  Jerm (talk) 00:49, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Ukrainian People's Republic →  – The meaning of "народний" in the Ukrainian language at that time was a synonym to "national", just as "народ" meant "nation", while for "people" the word "люд" was used. Mykhailo Hrushevsky, a historian and of the most prominent leaders of the Ukrainian National Republic, separated these terms by using such formulations:  "трудового українського люду" ("working Ukrainian people"), "нашого трудящого люду" ("our working people"), but "дати українському народові бажаний мир" ("to give the Ukrainian nation the desired peace").https://zbruc.eu/node/86900 
In foreign press and literature of the XX century, it was largely referred to as Ukrainian National Republic.https://www.google.com/search?q=%22ukrainian+national+republic%22&tbm=bks&sxsrf=APq-WBsK2SjpRn5fy5hpMSX4x-AfV0QJBw:1647775014335&source=lnt&tbs=cdr:1,cd_min:1900,cd_max:1999&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj2mJijyNT2AhXplYsKHQJxAxUQpwV6BAgFECM&biw=1523&bih=829&dpr=1 It is also listed under that name in Britannicahttps://www.britannica.com/place/Ukrainian-National-Republic and the Encyclopedia of Ukrainehttp://www.encyclopediaofukraine.com/display.asp?linkpath=pages%5CU%5CK%5CUkrainianNationalRepublic.htm. EricLewan (talk) 11:24, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

text: Since the proposed title is not the established "common" or "well known" name in the sense of WP:TITLECON, that guideline favors the current title. Knr5 (talk) 16:58, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 20 March 2022 

message: The current name in the right-most country template is "Українська Народня Республіка", whereas it should be "Українська Народна Республіка". Respectively the "i" should be dropped from the transliteration: "Ukrayinska Narodna Respublika", or more accurately "Ukrayins'ka Narodna Respublika" (because the s is soft). NoN33d4UserNames (talk) 02:46, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: While it is correct that the modern transliteration of UNR's full title would result in the "Народна/Narodna" spelling, the most common Orthography of the period spelled the word as "Народня/Narodnia". See, the 4th Universal of the Central Rada. DyvlusYaNaNebo98 (talk) 22:23, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling mistake in Ukrainian name & romanization 

message: Could the name of the capital of Ukraine here be updated to be Kyiv like the other pages? 166.62.226.9 (talk) 00:24, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:KYIV. Such changes from Kiev to Kyiv must be reverted. Mellk (talk) 19:00, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you please explain the reason? Considering the number of times the cities in Ukraine as well as in many other countries have been renamed, keeping the "name at the time" in every article would create an overhead for reading. Krispe13 (talk) 20:56, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of capital 

message: Rephrase the starting paragraph in regards to the territorial makeup: “(…)with a territory including the area of approximately eight Russian imperial governorates (Kiev, Volhynia, Kharkov, Kherson, Yekaterinoslav, Poltava, Chernigov and Podolia).” into “(…)with a territory including the area of approximately nine Russian imperial governorates (Kiev, Volhynia, Kharkov, Kherson, Yekaterinoslav, Poltava, Chernigov and Podolia, as well as approximately half of Taurida).” 
Other forms of phrasing could be “as well as Taurida, without the Crimean peninsula” or “as well as significant portion of Taurida” DyvlusYaNaNebo98 (talk) 15:20, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cocobb8 (💬 talk to me! • ✏️ my contributions) 21:20, 11 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 June 2023 

message: 73.126.209.98 (talk) 02:06, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. upload your intended audio file to wikimedia if you have in mind one that isn't there already, link to it here and reopen the request then.  Cannolis (talk) 02:13, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 September 2023 

message: The entire introductory and history section has no citation. Is this fiction or history? Is there any proof that such a country existed as a de facto or de jure state? The only thing cited about “Hetman of Ukraine” needs quotation to verify. And why is an article with almost no references locked? Yasarhossain07 (talk) 02:10, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of citations and references 

message: The basis of the color change is one poster, which could be incorrect. Flag illustrations from around this time weren't known for being completely correct; you'll often see incorrect shades. I think more illustrations should be found with this same shade, otherwise I think it should be reverted to the original blue color. Cyberbug567 (talk) 22:41, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Color change of coat of arms and flag 

message: Misdescription Daniel Rudnev (talk) 11:13, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The spelling at the time was with a 'я'—blindlynx 21:24, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change the letter “я» to “a” to “ Українська народн-A республіка» 

message: Change the names of the cities to Ukrainian transliteration: Kyiv, Kharkiv, etc.. Yosole (talk) 21:13, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Shadow311 (talk) 14:59, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering the article is contemporary, the name of "Kiev" should be changed to "Kyiv" and "Kharkov" to "Kharkiv" (I am sure the page referenced for this city includes all their historical names). Could reference the British embassy website on how to spell it - https://www.gov.uk/world/organisations/british-embassy-kyiv Krispe13 (talk) 20:20, 20 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Could suggest a great tool for that - yes it is in German - but is intuitive and is made specifically for translating from Russian/Ukrainian/Belorusian as per different adopted standards - https://translit.ukraine-nachrichten.de/ Krispe13 (talk) 20:14, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 April 2024