Talk:Alfa Romeo 156

message: I have removed a link and/or claim which makes serious safety accusations about this vehicle. The reason is that the only source given is a blog. Wikipedia does not accept blogs as external links and does not consider them a reliable source. If you think about it, this is essential since anyone can create a blog which says anything at all; the blog therefore isn't proof, no matter how sincere or true it is. And Wikipedia, being an encyclopedia, is not to be used to bring new things to the attention of the public, only to report what is already known. The appropriate thing to do instead is to seek a verifiable source. For this, that would pretty much mean a mainstream news report (in a newspaper or printed motoring magazine) and cite that as a source. Notinasnaid 12:06, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Safety claims 

message: In what way was the 156 less invested in motorsport than the 155? It won the highest series that it was eligible for, the ETCC, outright 4 consecutive seasons. The 156 was a hugely successful car in motorsport, and in fact still is, despite being out of production for 2 years already. Unless anyone objects I'd like to remove the subjective comment that the 156 was less well vested in motorsport than its predecessor. Dino246 10:43, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: yep I think it can be removed--— Typ932T | C  10:50, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  156 in motorsport 

message: I deleted the comment that the GT Coupe is essentially a 156 coupe. It is primarily 147-based. The 147 itself is obviously 156 based but the GT shares significantly more components with the 147 than the 156. It is more correct to describe the GT as based on a 147 platform, stretched to the wheelbase of the 156. The "156 Coupe" tag was mostly a marketing ploy to allow them to charge a premium for what is really a "147 Sprint". Dino246 06:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  GT has many things from 147: full front engine support frame is same on both cars, just see some pictures with the same engine inside. Doof miorrors, front wing is almost the same, doors are same as on the 3-door 147, side windows are same, only cutted a bit, bonnet is the same, and of course interior. On the autozine.org, GT is called as 147 Coupe, it's quite correct.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.219.160.76 (talk) 13:09, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  GT Coupe 

message: Usually this feature is attributed to Walter de Silva, and Alfa 156 article even claims that these were first introduced in 1994 in Fiat Coupe, but that's plainly WRONG!
Look at Nissan Terrano, which 1st generation dates back to 1986, and you'll see exactly the same hidden door handles at rear doors!  They are still used in Terrano's offspring Infiniti QX56.
Unfortunately, I'm unaware of WHO was the inventor of hidden door handles, and I haven't ever heard of any relations between de Silva and Nissan, but stating that Fiat/Alfa pioneered hidden door handles is just WRONG.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bolkhov (talk • contribs) 03:14, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed that part--— Typ932T | C  06:04, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hidden door handles -- novelty? 

message: :Do you have more info on that, it says on sticker that it is supercharged version?  --Typ932 T·C 20:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hehe, I took that photo and I am very sure about it. You see that sticker on the bonnet? That's the "Auto-Delta-on-tour" sticker. This sticker is also on a photo at their website: []  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.81.28.30 (talk) 10:22, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Auto Delta version 

message: Linking the class article and the manufacturer is obviously helpful for the readers and, as WP:REPEATLINK says, "if helpful for readers, links may be repeated in infoboxes". So obviously the first occurrence in the lead can and must be linked. Otherwise the readers would have to type the class or the manufacturer name in the search box to go to that article. It's absurd to say these links are not helpful. Take any good article in the project and compare. BaboneCar (talk) 20:23, 13 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: the reader can found those links from infobox very easily, the infobox is usually the "fast fact" section and those links are there very easily to be seen. Italy is also so common word it does not need linking-->Typ932 T·C 20:31, 13 November 2012 (UTC)

text: It might be allowed, but its not necessary to link those common words, so no need to link word Italy or other very common words -->Typ932 T·C 17:25, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeated links 

message: It turns out that Mr. de Silva did not style the 156, Giugiaro did. Talking about the 1st phase of course.YBSOne (talk) 10:36, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ???  -->Typ932 T·C 12:48, 21 November 2012 (UTC)

text: Must admit that I heard the same story 10 years ago when I asked someone inside how they let the minor facelift get Italdesign badges on the flanks. But this isn't the place to give such rumour voice and in the absence of any Reliable Source saying otherwise, the official line is what will be in this article. Dino246 (talk) 21:49, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  156 and Walter de Silva 

message: Quick's - a commercial entity - has an article on the 156. They use the same headline image as this article, without credit. It would be interesting to know if they simply lifted the image, or if they have cut a separate deal with the original photographer. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 13:35, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: I did an edit about the JTS engine never appearing in some markets, specifically Turkish market. Post-2002 156s have Twin Spark engines in Turkey as well as the first series. JTS engined 156s never made it here. 
But only way to know that is to check each year's catalogue and look into available cars for sale. As an active member of an Alfisti community in Turkey, I did that. Every single post-facelift 156 with a 4-pot engine IS Twin Spark. My own car (a Mk1.5 Selespeed) is a Twin Spark, with a Selespeed ECU that says JTS on it. :) 
So, how can we incorporate this into the article? This is important information as TS and JTS engines have a fundamental difference: Aftermarket Autogas systems can be applied on TS but not on the JTS.  Emirhandongel (talk) 14:48, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  JTS engine unavailability in some markets - how to incorporate source?  

message: Earliest found VIN clearly states that production started in 1996. This information can be additionally confirmed by manufacturer. Centro Documentazione Alfa Romeo or Archivio Storico Fiat, or simply with Fiat ePer. Date of introduction is not the sme as start of production.
VIN: ZAR93200000000003
MVS:  116.847.0.0 – BN 2.4 JTD CF2 RICCO
Vehicle: 00000003
Prod. date: 10/12/1996 YBSOne (talk) 07:13, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: They are most likely pre-production vehicles, not cars intended to be commercially available. ComradeUranium (talk) 11:40, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Cars with VIN are road legal cars and of that model. If a car with VIN was produced from 1996, and there is no car from 1995, then 1996 is the production start. And even pre-production (other than cars made prior to presentaion) cars do find their customers. Italian cars are not easy to comprehend with many illogical facts, but still facts.YBSOne (talk) 13:16, 15 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production start