Talk:Rationales provided by advocates of the impeachment of George W. Bush

message: was it greed? no. malice? no. Vandalism? no. POV pushing? no. Dreams of global domination? no, was it the fact that when I loaded the thing for the first time I literally could not see one word of text from the body of article at all without scrolling 2/3rds of the page length down to find the text under a sea of templates? could very well be--205.188.116.138 06:51, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  what prompted me to try and decrease the font size of the templates?

message: Due to a "page move" archive (rather than via "cut & paste") which was done tonight by Prometheuspan, the very informative talk page history for this article has been obscured. You can see the full history here: Talk:Rationales provided by advocates of the impeachment of George W. Bush/Archive 3. 
Merecat 07:50, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ||stop talking in message boxes, please, it looks really silly, and forces me to respond to you in turn, not to mention, I was bagé, and you were orange, you're just going to confuse people if you keep switching colors ):--205.188.116.138 07:54, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Just when I was starting to like orange--205.188.116.138 08:09, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talk Page history 

message: Enough! The bickering in this room is sufficient to cause permanent hearing loss. Are we debating about the article here, or we passionately attacking each other?
I read most of the article just now and I am impressed. This is a GREAT  article! Well thought out in the right ways, well written, loaded with fact and referenced up the kazoo. I am going to vote don't delete. This article rocks! thanks for writing it. ps Don't use this as an excuse to  continue harassing Merecat, though. You are pushing him over the edge in other edit wars. Maggiethewolfstar 09:08, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yikes! Maggie, don't you know that all mentorees are supposed be robotic drones of the mentor? Oh well, I gues my Svengali powers have failed me again. That said, my biggesst gripe with this article is that the enormous number of links make this a WP:NOT violation. Maggie, this will be our 1st dialog as peers as you are now graduated from my mentorship (though are still fully welcome at my talk page), so I am highly interested in what you think about WP:NOT in regards to this article. Please talk on this page here for this topic. Merecat 10:05, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maggie, I like to compliment you on making an objective observation without letting your personal feelings hinder you. Feel free to offer suggestions for improving the article. As to Merecat, I have no problem with him and am not harassing him. As you said, the article is well-sourced, so when Merecat started deleting sourced material I objected to that. That is all. When all editors simply discuss major edits, to what evidently is a controversial article, much irritation can be avoided. Nomen Nescio 11:26, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  from thewolfstar 

message: There's really no point in "mirroring" the article on its own talk page.  If it's deleted, the talk page is too, so nothing whatsoever is accomplished.  Still... material moved to: /Mirror
:Prometheuspan 19:07, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In theory yes, a meta-discussion over the article would be nice, but there's no neat way to do it in wiki. All you'll have is a snapshot of one version of the article, hacked up with many people's comments and extremely difficult to follow. --Mmx1 19:25, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Moreover, Prometheuspan seems to be missing a really fundamental point: this article is under AfD.  If it is deleted, so is the talk page.  Even if a temporary fork were a good idea (I've seen them tried, and they rarely help anything), the place to put it where it wouldn't get deleted would probably be under your own user page.  In any case, I am pretty sure that if the AfD decides on "delete", editors will have privately copied the useful content to allow merging the good parts back into other appropriate articles. LotLE×talk 19:30, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

text: The article can still continue in userspace, including the talk page.  -- noosphere 20:55, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion Mirror of Article