Talk:Partition and secession in New York

message: I don't think the page move was such a good idea, so I've moved it back to the original title.  "New York City secession" is basically what the movement is called in a contemporary context.  It implies a political position rather than a description of fact.--Pharos 23:52, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

message: Does the Peter Vallone bill call for a referendum on a secession from New York or from the USA?  It's not clear from the article. --Jfruh 21:52, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry for not replying way earlier, but I believe in political context (and public statements at the time this was first raised) it is quite clear that the Vallone bill was calling for secession from Albany, not Washington.--Pharos 02:41, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vallone bill 

message: Mayor Fernando Wood's speech.  Also, George Fitzhugh's February 1861 article as reprinted in Empire City: New York Through the Centuries, pg. 268.--Pharos 23:53, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  To add to Wikisource 

message: Philip Foner's Business & Slavery: The New York Merchants & the Irrepressible Conflict, which discusses John Forsyth, Jr.'s letter to Jeff Davis on the subject.--Pharos 01:09, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  To be consulted in future 

message: Might a better title for this article be "Secession in New York State"? -- Fifty7 (talk) 22:09, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move? 

message: I think that the citation should be removed.  The quotation states that secession would be impossible, but the article itself gives no reasoning as to why this is the case.  Surely there are works out there that give substantive reasons for or against secession.  It is biased to include such a citation because it gives credence to one view on the subject.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.114.214.109 (talk) 15:44, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excise  Public Policy Institute of New York State citation 

message: This afternoon I moved Secession in New York to Partition and secession in New York so that the title matches a similar article, Partition and secession in California, and because this article is about efforts to partition NY it into multiple states and about calls for the secession of certain parts of the state from the Union. Drdpw (talk) 22:34, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title change rationale 

message: Paragraph one ends as follows:
"and for the boroughs of Staten Island and Brooklyn to secede from New York City."
There is a subsequent section of Staten Island's interest in secession but nothing about Brooklyn.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Qlangley (talk • contribs) 00:28, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brooklyn secession 

message: The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
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I'd suggest that New York Region, Montauk Region and New Amsterdam Region be merged to either #Dividing New York State into three autonomous regions, or alternatively as a new independent article covering all three. It hardly makes sense to have three different articles about the same fairly minor proposal.--Pharos (talk) 03:21, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Divide New York State Caucus merging