Talk:Vitalogy

message: How is it a concept album? *****  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spongesquid (talk • contribs) 22:20, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "And a loose Concept album?" 

message: From the article:
Although by the early 1990s vinyl records were completely outdated, many people still had record players and Pearl Jam liked the imperfect sound of albums, with the scratches and imperfections providing a different listening experience each time.
This one sentence has numerous errors and fallacies:
*Records were not "completely outdated" in the early 1990s, nor are they now.  Music is still widely released on vinyl, as many audiophiles prefer the dynamics of the vinyl LP.  Pearl Jam was not the only band to release an album on vinyl in the early 1990s.
*A record player is a portable device or a child's toy.  If people bought Vitology on vinyl, it was to play it on a turntable.  "Many people still had" these not because they never got around to tossing it in the dumpster, but because, again, they are the preferred medium for many audiophiles.
*The members of Pearl Jam, as with all fans of vinyl LPs, do not listen to vinyl albums because they enjoy the scratches and so-called imperfections.  Only a scratched, i.e. severely damaged album has flaws in the sound--and this is not a desired condition for LPs.
*A "different listening experience" provided by the vinyl versus the CD release is not due to "scratches and imperfections".  It is due to an argued greater dynamic range, clarity, and warmth.
Sheesh.  Kids these days! ;)  --buck 09:31, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since nobody has seemed to object, I've altered the offending section. --buck 14:40, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Imperfect sound of albums"?

message: For an album that's so crucial to music of the grunge era and also for the 90s in general, this page should be brought to the standard that would merit it being a feature article. I want to improve this article immensly to get it there. Can I have some help, though? ta. --lincalinca 12:35, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Quality

message: I have just removed the following:
"(When played backwards the song contains a hidden message that sounds like "Oh, Pete Townshend, how you saved my life!" and contains variations of this. It is well known that Eddie Vedder is a huge fan of The Who.)"
It's misleading to call it a "hidden message", since it doesn't seem to be intentional.  Also, since it isn't accurate to call it a "hidden message, I fail to see why it belongs in this article.  Similar claims could be made about any song in the world, but that doesn't mean it belongs in an encyclopedia.  The same sentence also appears in the article for the song.  I'm going to remove that as well.74.182.8.21 (talk) 17:27, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Backwards Message

message: *In the Professional reviews section of the infobox, be consistent with link titles ("link", or a date)
*"The band wrote many of the songs during soundchecks during its Vs. Tour. The majority of the album's tracks were recorded during breaks on the tour" - sentences could be merged
::*Changed it.-5- (talk) 15:01, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: *Addressed.-5- (talk) 15:06, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: *Changed it.-5- (talk) 15:06, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

text: *Fixed. WesleyDodds (talk) 08:11, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: *Fixed.-5- (talk) 15:06, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

text: *Addressed.-5- (talk) 15:06, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

text: *Addressed.-5- (talk) 15:10, 23 March 2008 (UTC)

text: *Fixed. Brendan O'Brien is one of the most sought-after alternative rock producers, primarily because of his work with Pearl Jam and stone Temple Pilots, which probably why Powdwerfinger have worked with him. WesleyDodds (talk) 01:02, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

text: *Fixed. WesleyDodds (talk) 00:59, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Passed. Nice work again! dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 00:34, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GAN on hold

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Per this post from this documentary. Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:26, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: List_of_Frontline_(American_TV_program)_episodes#Season_4_(1986) Lugnuts Fire Walk with Me 13:31, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foxymophandlemama 

message: There are serious, glaring problems with the citations used in this article to claim specific band members wrote the songs on this album. For example:
1. The Wiki claims Eddie Vedder wrote the music to the song "Corduroy" and then links as its citation to an interview where he makes no such claim and the author makes no such claim that he wrote the music to the song. The only exchange about "Cordury" in the interview is as follows: Q: Is "Corduroy" also about a relationship? A: It is about a relationship but not between two people. It's more one person's relationship with a million people. In fact, that song's almost a little too obvious for me. That's why instead of a lyric sheet we put in an X-ray of my teeth from last January and they are all in very bad shape, which was analogous to my head at the time.
2. The wiki claims Eddie Vedder wrote the music to the song "Immortality" and then links as its citation to the same interview as the above. Vedder makes no claim and the author makes no claim that he wrote the music to the song. In fact, Vedder discusses the lyrical content of the song and says it was  "written when we were on tour in Atlanta."
3. The Wiki claims Stone Gossard wrote the music for the song "Spin the Black Circle" and then links to an interview with Vedder where Vedder only states that Gossard wrote an unspecified riff in the song. That does not necessarily constitute the writing of the entire song.
4. The Wiki claims Eddie Vedder wrote the music to the song "Bugs" and links to an article about Vedder that does not even mention the song "Bugs."
This appears to be a general problem across Pearl Jam's discography. Someone or multiple users have gone in and inserted multiple poorly sourced or completely unreliable citations, in many cases distorting what was said in them in ways that incorrectly or inaccurately attribute compositions to members of the band. These should be removed, and defer more generally to the songwriting credits in the liner notes. Icanttalkaboutit (talk) 00:44, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problems With Songwriting Citations 

message: It's revisionist to call Vitalogy a punk album. 4 out of 14 songs could be considered Punk and that's hardly enough to warrant listing it as Punk Rock before Grunge -or Rock/Pop for that matter. 2601:500:8180:70:901F:BD7A:9E38:AFDF (talk) 23:59, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punk Rock?