Talk:Ra's al Ghul

message: Um... who?  Where was this mentioned? - anon
I can find zero references to this character.  Unless someone can verify his existence I'm going to assume he was made up by the person that put it in the wiki - who only seems to have contributed that one time.D1Puck1T 16:37, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Malhar Naik aka Ice Man

message: Am I the only one who has always thought  the name is also a pun, if you read it in a certain way, on the word Rascal?
Was this intended by the creators? Rrose Selavy (talk) 13:19, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: Is anyone going to add info on the Ra's al Ghul Year One mini? --DrBat 19:38, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
Surprisingly, Year One contains a glaring mistake in its introduction. It states it was Talia who killed her father, and not Nyssa.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.112.69 (talk) 17:49, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Year One

message: The article mentions the Lazarus pit several times, but there is no explanation. --Moyet 20:30, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Is that really necessary, though? I've often been a little bit peeved when an article gives out an explaination for something when that something already has an article of its own--and it's linked right there, no less... Onslaught Six 09:25, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lazarus pit

message: :He has been described as a "James Bond"-style villain, created as a response to the popularity of James Bond during the 70's, and to give Batman a more epic scope and enemy.
<interjection:  The 1969 James Bond film "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" had a criminal mastermind called Draco who wanted Bond to marry his daughter Tracy (Countess Teresa).  There is also a prominent ski chase in it, the first of many famed ski chases in the Bond films.  In BATMAN #232, published in 1971, scripter Denny O'Neil has a criminal mastermind called Ra's al Ghul who wanted Batman to marry his daughter Talia.  In BATMAN #244, published in 1972, there is a prominent ski chase in it prior to the conclusion.  "Easy Rider" and "On Her Majesty's Secret Service" were the two highest grossing films of 1969, and Denny O'Neil borrowed from the former in his GREEN LANTERN/GREEN ARROW series with two heroes crossing the country to 'search for the real America' and the latter's influence upon his BATMAN scripts has already been stated. end of interjection> 
Inspiration for Ra's Al Ghul......let's see...he is from Asia, he runs a secret criminal organization, he has lived for centuries, and his daughter is a prominent character. Well, it seems to me that Fu Manchu is who Denny O'Neil had in mind when he created Ra's Al Ghul. Considering that Marvel's Master of Kung Fu with Fu Manchu started not longer after Ra's debuted, it does seem to coincidental.
By the way, considering the comic book Ra's Al Ghul is a light-skinned Arab, I see no reason why the movie Ra's Al Ghul can't also possibly be Arabic.
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Cast an unmistakably Arabic actor as a terrorist leader? That would be a grave sin against the religion of political correctness, would it not? Rearden Metal 21:32, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Inspiration for Ra's Al Ghul, obviously Fu Manchu

message: Someone should mention the "Contagion" and "Legacy" arcs in the article, as they're the storylines where Ra's al Ghul really ascends to supervillain status. They happened around 1996-1998. Ra's released a virus that wiped out about three quarters of the world's population. Batman would proceed to protect the cities that still contained humans (Gotham, Calcutta, Edinburgh, etc) against Ra's further terrorist attacks. Azrael and the Cult of St. Dumas also play a large part in the beginning of the arc. -Voievod 22:21, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contagion/Legacy 

message: While Ra's employs assasins, and is in fact the leader of a League of assasins, it seems somewhat inappropriate to list him as an assasin himself.  That's like calling Fu Manchu a ninja, or Emperor Palpatine a stormtrooper.
Agreed.
agreed. ThuranX 22:52, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Appropriateness of 'Fictional Assasins' category?

message: Talia in an earlier tale had seen the Earth-1 Batman unmasked, so she knew his true face. Ghul concluded that to operate as the Batman would require much wealth. Ghul started eliminating suspects. He began investigating into who bought the materials for the weapons and paraphenalia required to operate as the Batman. When confronted with this, the Earth-1 Batman was surprised nobody had thought of this years ago and took steps to plug the hole.  
Enda80 10:08, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: How he deduced it

message: (202.125.143.65 14:02, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Influence on writers of Ra's al ghul

message: Changed up the superbox a bit and I made the pic a little smaller as the superbox be to big for the article to look good. Plus I got rid of the Insanity? section as there isn't anything to substantial to warrant it and switched the Agenda and Abilities sections positions as his abilities should go first. Phunbot 04:32, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Doczilla reverted the edits by Phunbot. I have reverted Doc, because I think that Phun's edits are overall quite good. Spelling errors can be fixed, and the new format is not particularly bad, the additional images are generally useful, though at least one cover image might be unneeded, and in general, I think the page is better for it. I'd prefer to see some discussion back here before we wind up in a revert war. ThuranX 12:50, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I am not sure we need that cover to Batman:Ra's Al Ghul... I hope to hear from Doczilla what objections he has to the new page... I'm sure that he'll either take a longer look, or come through with some solid info, as he's a solid, reliable editor. ThuranX 21:37, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll even acknowledge that I originally made a mistake. Phunbot had so many superficial errors that I didn't look carefully enough to see that he/she hadn't gutted something as it appeared to me. An image insertion simply caused that portion to be positioned elsewhere in the edit comparison in a way that made it seem the material had been gutted when it was really just lower on the page. Doczilla 07:35, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Some More Changes

message: With my changes should the ratings tags on the top of this page be changed now or should it have some more info for that to happen? Phunbot 05:01, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Leave the ratings tags alone, ask someone else to review for tag changes. ThuranX 12:48, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ratings Change?

message: Unless a specific citation for the inexplicability of superman's power return can be given, it's obvious to most viewers, and a reasonable use of Common sense, to assume that as Ra's lost his possession of superman's powers due to the interruption of the process, an superman's simultaneous reclamation of said powers, that yes, in fact, the transsfer was reversed by disruption the process. that's what doczilla and my version relates to the reader. ThuranX 04:08, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode summaries 

message: Forget the above statements and just concentrate on this as what I am about to say will unequivocally show I am right.
Before you asked for citations on why Superman's power returned, the above statement didn't exactly give that but I just remembered something from the episode that shows explicit moments to explain why Superman's power comes back.
In the episode Talia uses the power of the staff to drain the energy out of Superman knocking him out to allow her to capture him showing that the staff drains energy. Later in the chamber meant to do the transferring of his energy into Ra's al Ghul, Superman manages to gain enough energy back to use his powers to get free however Talia once again uses the staff to subdue him. So simply put at the end of the show Superman gains his power back because it's just a matter of time before he recovers from the staffs effects. So there you go a citation that shows why he got his powers back, no reversal bs at all. 
Its good to be right and if you want to challenge my statement I will give you the links to the episode and you can see it for yourself. Goodbye this discussion is over, I am going to now edit the article part appropriately with this new info. If you edit it again, that is on you but you been proven wrong so why keep on showing your wrong.
Phunbot 05:59, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ownage, how sweet it is!

message: The source of this dispute over the animated series section seems to be some trivial detail in the plot summary of the episodes Ra's al Ghul appears in. Is there a reason we've devoted three paragraphs to the single episode of the Superman series in which Ra's appears?
Since the reason seems to be "the fannish tendency to confuse stories with information," I've omitted the overdetailed plot summary entirely, due to the lack of a need for detailed plot summary of every single work the character appears in (something discussed in WP:FICT and WP:WAF). - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Even better. Thanks. I've been trying to guide Phunbot in better ways to wikiedit, but lately, he's been resistant to guidance. this works even better. ThuranX 12:53, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Occam's razor 

message: Is it just me, or is the section on Head of the Demon way too long?  I feel it practically borders on copyright infringement.  Ccm043 13:53, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Head of the Demon 

message: Denny has been saying Ra's was Moriarty-level arch-nemesis updated to appear as a "James Bond"-style villain since before 1975. I remember him stating such at Harlan Ellison's Ten Tuesdays Down a Rabbit Hole, the UCLA Extension science fiction class that year. - Sparky (talk) 07:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your memory is not an encyclopedia source. I personally heard Denny say that in a conference call earlier this year. My phone call is not a source either. If he has said it so many times, finding a source should not be difficult. It certainly is not nonsense because most of the planet has never heard him say that. Doczilla (talk) 07:49, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ridiculousness of 'citations needed' nonsense 

message: the Resurrection of Ra's plot section is overly long and needs a serious stripping down. ThuranX (talk) 14:04, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Resurrection plot section 

message: As Neal Adams has pointed out on numerous occasions, the key to the character's sinister appearance is his lack of eyebrows.  Perhaps the illustration should reflect his comic book appearance, and not one created for the animated series.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.103.221.189 (talk) 16:09, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appropriateness of illustration 

message: This article needs the B-Class checklist filled in to remain a B-Class article for the Comics WikiProject.  If the checklist is not filled in by 7th August this article will be re-assessed as C-Class.  The checklist should be filled out referencing the guidance given at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment/B-Class criteria. For further details please contact the Comics WikiProject.  Comics-awb (talk) 17:19, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done - poorly referenced so I bumped it down to a C (although Start wouldn't be inappropriate either as it is a low C). (Emperor (talk) 20:16, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Comics B-Class Assesment required

message: The article currently says that Ra's' name was pronounced Rayshe in the DCAU to avoid making him seem one ethnicity over the other. I don't know of any official source that states this. Additionally if you search Ra's it will take you to the Arabic sound Resh which sounds phonetically enough like Rayshe to be acceptable. What I'm trying to say is that it seems to me, uneducated as I may be, that Rayshe is more similar to the correct pronunciation. Does anybody know what the real story is?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.254.167.76 (talk) 17:39, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with File:News-batbegins1-1.jpg

message: The note in the "Origin" section quotes al Ghul as saying "I appear to be a vigorous fifty. I am actually a very vigorous four hundred and forty-eight...or is it four hundred and fifty-three? I lost count during the Black Plague. No matter."
Unfortunately, the Black Plague went through Europe on its main "grand tour" in the middle of the 14th century. Unless the comic in question is set in America's colonial period, he'd have to be at least 700 years old.
Someone please add a well-thought note to that effect? Since I don't read any comics anywhere near this direction, I'd not like to intrude on the wiki.
173.110.124.148 (talk) 19:27, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age 

message: obviously no one working on this article knew any Arabic. I added the right pronunciation for ra's al ghul but there seems to be something wrong with the picture which says that he returns in the form of his own son, Dusan al Ghul: the arabic script after the name Dusan al Ghul would in a roughly transliterated form be al-shabah al-abid. this does mean the white ghost but it is not dusan al ghul (دوسان الغول‎) which in turn seems to have no real arabic meaning at all, although i am not sure about that.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Medizinball (talk • contribs) 23:07, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Where is this pronunciation?  Has it been removed from the page?  If so, why?  I think this info would be useful, especially since the movie has been accused of using the wrong pronunciation. 86.150.195.140 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 15:52, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arabic 

message: Seriously, You're going to spoil the entire story of Arkham City in an page about Ra's without ANY warning? most of it isn't even relevant. 
82.0.46.216 (talk) 13:11, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:SPOILER. Doniago (talk) 14:01, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoilers 

message: Am I reading this article correctly as saying that the name "Dracula" is, in real life, derived from "Ra's Al Ghul"? That's pretty obviously not right... more to the point, it would contradict Vlad the Impaler#Name and House of Drăculești. Can anyone elaborate on what the source cited in this article really says? --Allen (talk) 04:37, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed this material that is obviously wrong despite being sourced. I haven't looked up the source book, but if it claims what this material said it does then it is not reliable on this matter. Below is what I removed. --Allen (talk) 20:44, 7 April 2013 (UTC)

text: I'm looking at the book right in front of me and this stuff isn't in it. It's a first edition, maybe it's in a later edition but not the one I have. I'm removing it until someone offers a real explanation. Easyjusteasy (talk) 06:40, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  is article really claiming "Ra's Al Ghul" --> "Dracula"? 

message: What is Ra's al Ghul's religion?--Splashen (talk) 18:40, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In Batman: The Animated Series, in an episode entitled "Showdown" (Season 2, episode 13/Episode #78), Ra's al Ghul is revealed to have a son named Arkady Duvall, well over 100 years old in that episode.  Should this be included under the Family section of the principal article? 76.9.41.141 (talk) 01:40, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arkady Duvall --- another son of Ra's al Ghul 

message: He's been a character for years and you guys are still using an image from 1972 for him Cordelia Van Allen (talk) 20:32, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Would you care to suggest an alternative? DonIago (talk) 21:45, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Main Image