Talk:Bobby Storey

message: this page is highly irresponsible and could put a mans life at risk. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.70.70.104 (talk) 23:22, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
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message: Since it's the correct term used by academics, despite the laughable claim it's a "hotly debated term".
*Inside the IRA by Andrew Saunders (Edinburgh University Press) 
*The IRA, 1968-2000: An Analysis of a Secret Army by J. Bowyer Bell (Routledge) 
*Times of Troubles: Britain's War in Northern Ireland by Andrew Sanders (not to be confused with Andrew Saunders above) (Edinburgh University Press) 
*Walking Away from Terrorism: Accounts of Disengagement from Radical and Extremist Movements  by John Horgan (Routledge) 
*Ruairí Ó Brádaigh: The Life and Politics of an Irish Revolutionary by Robert White (Indiana University Press) 
*Provisional Irish Republican Army and the Morality of Terrorism by Timothy Shanahan (Edinburgh University Press) 
etc etc etc. There is no "hot debate" among academics about the correctness of the term. FDW777 (talk)
Where is the evidence there is any "hot debate" among academics over a straightforward, official, factual description ? FDW777 (talk) 20:30, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
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message: the use of AP is permitted, see WP:ABOUTSELF. Further, the sentences you removed it from are as follows
*. That he played a key role isn't disputed, see for example The Dynamics of the Armed Struggle by J. Bowyer Bell
*. The effect of Bloody Sunday on IRA recruitment is well documented, I'm sure the reader is benefited by explaining Storey's motivations.
*. If you prefer we can simply leave this out and have him interned for absolutely no reason on the day he turns 17? I don't think you'd like that...
*. That he was arrested and charged with a shooting straight after leaving court is hardly "gushing".
*. The only potentially "gushing part is that it was his first conviction, but since this is referenced to The Irish Troubles: A Generation of Violence, 1967-92 there is no problem.
*. Given he's accused of being a memeber of the IRA's Army Council who do just that, this isn't problematic.
*. Accusations of criminal behaviour from a political opponent, how "gushing" can it get?
On numerous instances you left sentences unreferenced, or partially unreferenced since the existing references don't cover the whole sentence. I know, as I added many of the non-AP references. Should you wish to improve the article further by upgrading more of the AP references to books, news articles and so on you are welcome to do so. FDW777 (talk) 09:02, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, see WP:ABOUTSELF. Your claim of "gushing" is nothing to do with the content AP is referencing. FDW777 (talk) 10:39, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

text: If you want to use another source, go right ahead. There's nothing stopping you. FDW777 (talk) 10:40, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

text: Yes, but the "gushing" claim is completely irrelevant when, as demonstrated, none of the content that's actually referenced by it is "gushing". What specific content in the article that is referenced by AP do you believe is ? There was a discussion at WP:RSN where it was found that AP can be used in connjunction with WP:ABOUTSELF, you are welcome to start a new discussion there to overturn that consensus. FDW777 (talk) 12:08, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

text: Also I currently count 41 footnotes to references other than AP, which clearly means that . FDW777 (talk) 12:25, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
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