Talk:Confederation of the Rhine

message: I noticed an error: The flag is the flag of France - not the flag of the Confederation of the Rhine. I presume, that the confederation has never had an own flag. But the different member states of the confederation used their flags for themselves.
The member states of the Confederation of the Rhine had not been part of France, but had accepted Napoleon in his function as "protector". This fact doesn't make the Confederation of the Rhine a part of France. So the flag of France is no official symbol for the Confederation of the Rhine!
The member states had been co-founders of the Confederation of the Rhine. So they had been subjects not objects of international law. Formally they kept their sovereignty and were no client states of France.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.207.181.26 (talk • contribs) 
:The Flags of the World site says that the French flag was used for the Confederation of the Rhine. Member states did use their own flags, but the Confederation itself used the French one. Using the French flag does not necessarily imply that the Confederation was part of France. - 52 Pickup 10:46, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only other flag that I have seen is this one on the right, but it is stated in many places (e.g. ) that this was only allegedly used and not used officially . On FOTW it says "The Confederation of the Rhine had no flag but the French [flag] and the Imperial Standard of its protector (Napoleon)." And other sites use the French flag to represent the confederation (eg. ). If you have references for this orange flag of which you speak, I would be interested to see them. But as far as the info looks right now, the Confederation was represented either by the French flag or by none at all. - 52 Pickup 07:45, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

text: To make a flag, any graphics program will do. But without stating where the image came from, placing an image here on Wiki might be a problem. Maybe if you ask the people over at FOTW they could help you out with finding the image and/or some further information. Either way, I'd be interested to hear how it goes. - 52 Pickup (talk) 10:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Flag

message: It says, that all of the Holy Roman Empire except for Danish Holstein, Swedish Pommern, Prussia and Austria were part of the Confederation of the Rhine, the land west of the Rhine and large parts of northwestern Germany were incorporated into France. This misregards Erfurt, which was incorporated into France as well when obtained from Prussia, and which was consequently not part of the Confederation. The wording should be redone in this sense or a clause be added that mentions this fact. 87.234.124.78 21:17, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Erfurt

message: I'd like to change it to a table, so that it can be organized in different ways. Any objections? Andrew647 15:00, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of members 

message: I don't think, that the Confederation of the Rhine had been a state or a client-state. I think the Confederation of the Rhine had been a confederation of client-states (please look into the "Rheinbundakte", the treaty between France an the 16 german princes!). The "Rheinbund"-states had been de iure souverain, but de facto clients of France. So the article should be corrected in this point! Tfjt (talk) 18:36, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I agree. It was not a state. Jan.Kamenicek (talk) 17:48, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a client-state 

message: Does that exact phrasing have any legitimacy in English?
A preliminary web search does not reveal any. The "Flags of the World" site is not a guide to English language usage.
"Rhine Confederation" is one literal translation of the German Rheinbund, yes, but that appears to be all.
That phrasing can be restored with a proper citation.
Varlaam (talk) 17:35, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Before a while ago my edit was reverted because I gave no citation, rhinebund is Rhine confederation, Konföderation von der rhein or something similar I put, because it literally meant Confederation of the Rhine I didn’t know how to cite back then Emmanuelbruh (talk) 00:44, 9 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Rhine Confederation" [sic] 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Why the hell is an unsourced picture of medal (??) being put in place of a non-existent coat of arms? --178.252.126.70 (talk) 00:50, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: that picture of a medal is based on an original by User:Finanzer (See File:Medaille rheinbund 472.jpg ) - I believe that tagging him here should notify him, but i'll also ask him on his commons talk page. Koopinator (talk) 03:29, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Commemorative medal" 

message: I think we should add the alleged flag of the confederation of the rhine , and if some people don’t want to add it because it’s "non-official" flag we can always just add "alleged flag" on the bottom.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dobledude44 (talk • contribs) 16:18, 7 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: @Dobledude44  Do not add the flag. It has already been agreed that the "flag" is fictional Ihaveabadname (talk) 02:07, 10 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: the country was a loose confederation simply to protect napoleon. each state was its own completely. this is why the confederation did not have a flag. Leapcake123 (talk) 16:50, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is there no flag? 

message: I cannot click on the three maps of the CotR in the table, and they are unreadable and useless in this size. I don't know how to fix it, but if you do, please, fix it.
--Krmarci (talk) 06:35, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I was confused by this too. Should be fixed now. Tvoetp (talk) 13:12, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maps