Talk:Modern Talking

message: This article reads like a fan page: "Composer Dieter Bohlen employed mood-evoking lyrics and intellectually-designed, synthesizer-based music". Putting aside the obvious and laughable hyperbole, this is unsourced original research, and this entire article should be in the tone of an encyclopedia article and not a record company press release. Also, cut down on the hyphenation, my German friends. "Intellectually-designed" is not proper English usage. Unigolyn 11:58, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutral tone 

message: The article says "Modern Talking is the only band to Score five consecutive number one singles in Germany along with Boney M." How can they be the only band to achieve this if Boney M also did it? Mrwhizzard 20:51, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Facts 

message: Please refrain from future non-constructive alterations to this article. Repeated alterations of similar nature will constitute vandalism to the article and will be treated as such. 
I have spent many hours on this article and I'm quite familiar with a duo's history. The information that you continually keep including cannot be found within the official web site of Modern Talking/Thomas Anders. And I certainly hope you have not been drawn to this nonsense because you see Dieter Bohlen standing next to some guys  which could very easily be told by anybody that the image of Dieter Bohlen is simply added on. Also, it is an unpofessionally written article with grammatical errors and cannot be used as a reliable source. 
If you are still going to insist on it then you're going to have to come up with other useful sources, this will not do it. In other words, your persistant reversions basing on those sources are only going to make you end up in Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents --Harout72 (talk) 01:09, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: For user: ''tell the trooth''

message: Is true here need to exist the basic info, but many important information is missing, what about the real voices of Modern Talking?. Thomas Anders and Dieter Bohlen were always who we could see in covers, posters, videos, etc, but in same way that Mini Vanilli and Boney M, Den Harrow, etc. (they had help of other singers). The real voices in chorus, the real choir were Systems In Blue (Rolf Köhler, Michael Scholz and Detlef Wiedeke), together with Birger Corleis. I know there are some interest in hide this "dark" part, for people that believe is a kind of threath to Bohlen or something like "to destroy dreams", this is just very stupid in my opinion, the truth is the truth, we have to give the right credit to all people that make this band possible, and this is not classificated or secret info, these are not rumours, these are facts, that we can't hide with a finger. The public need to read the truth, and not the so well known and manipulated story that we read by years. We do all with respect of course.
Bluesky84 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have never seen this coming from a reliable source. I've seen this nonsense in Fan-made pages, but not anywhere reliable. Every new statement that going to be inserted has to be supported by highly reliable sources.--Harout72 (talk) 23:39, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry but I am making a serious investigation since years and myself I had see the proofs with my own eyes, talking with the people involved, is logic it don't appear in the normal biographies, but exist the trials, exist the documents that whoever can get if really follow this issue. I am not lying, those are just the facts. Bluesky84 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

text: ok do you want a highly proof?, take the album "Let's Talk about Love" and please read the credits, I don't know who you are, and why you try to hide the real facts, what is your interest for hide this information to the public?, this is internet and we have rights, you can't change the story only because you want, what you do is a kind of crimen, let the truth to be free and respect please!!!. Give me your mail for talk in private about it if you want to continue this discussion. If this article is serious need to be objetive and not unfair like it had been until now.  Bluesky84 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

text: of course I am very new here, just some minutes ago I registered and wanted to make my contribution to this issue that I follow since many time ago, in this album is written the names of this people for the first time, why? coincidence?, is not the only, also get please the booklet of blue system albums, i don't remember in which exactly in this moment, but Bohlen wrote a public thanks to this people that worked in the choir of his productions, what rumour you talk?, what other proof are you  searching?, at the end, where is the damage?, by the way I also read, that you think is a picture montage this picture of Bohlen together with SIB? LOL, this is a real picture from early 90's that I took in my hands. Please watch in youtube the report akte 03 about the truth of Modern Talking.  Bluesky84 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

text: in same way, can you give me any reliable source saying that my info is fake?, what else do you want?, there are books, serious articles in respetable magazines, own texts in booklets, reports of trials, golden records with the names of this artists, documents, etc... I just write who were singing the chorus in Modern Talking and you delete it without any rights!!!, do you still believe, the picture of Dieter Bohlen with Rolf, Michael and Detlef is false or a edit trick?, please... what right have you for decide what is reliable info and what not?. You are making vandalism hidden info and only showing what you want. When will we have real serious info about this band here?. Some people still believe that Dieter bohlen sang in Modern Talking, when the own ex-producer Ralf Stemman, declared he never gave an only note!!. (I don't write that here, but we know). I ask for justice here, this article is total manipulated and don't tell the truth!!. Bluesky84 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

text: yes i read very well, and according to that I am able to write what I write and you in your vandalims delete, also you keep external links that are not reliable, just fansites that share illegal mp3s and make damage to this music, I think wikipedia don't allow that, but you keep only what you want, like absolute dictator, also, who are you for "end" a story?, the sacred king of the info?, I find this unfair, I also read, what you said of another user that tried to say the truth before me, my respect to this person, is a pity wikipedia couldn't give a real serious story about this band that I love and follow since long time. Bluesky84 (talk) 23:34, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

text: thanks for you comment, many people over the world already know the facts, so there are not reason, a person here in wikipedia try to manipulate the information, he is warning me now saying that will accuse me of vandalism, when the only vandal is he!!, he has not rights for change the story, I put some facts in the biography, with the reliable source in external links, that is a link that himself took like realiable before, THE SAME BMG ADMITED ROLF, MICHAEL; DETLEF AND BIRGER WERE THE CHOIR OF MODERN TALKING, but he deletes it now and say that is unnecessary??, what is unnnecessary is his attack and vandal!!, he need to be blocked for hide information, for keep only false things, and for don't let to decent people to express and contribute to the real history of this music band.  Bluesky84 (talk) 12:34, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Talking Forever is an OFFICIAL site of Systems In Blue, you are liying when you say is unofficial, but in your same logic why you keep references from unnofical artists sites, and from where come your references, so all what you wrote need to be deleted because all haven't reliable sources--MT SIB (talk) 21:23, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Parts 

message: Rather than keeping this argument going (and probably ending up with a 3RR block) why not propose the text of a section on the band's sound.  If it's obvious to all that there are more than two voices, and the other voices contribute a great deal to the 'sound', hash out a section about it here.  Elen of the Roads (talk) 16:04, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The band's sound 

message: Discofox is a dance, but also it become a music style in Germany, the music for the dance discofox is sometimes quite different to the music of the style. I think there are a misunderstanding about that. --Bluesky84 (talk) 17:11, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Discofox 

message: I will let this discussion here for future people that maybe try to make some contributions. The situation is this, due to the polemic that this band got in the last times, since was discovered Dieter Bohlen really didn't sing in Modern Talking, and the real singers (Rolf Köhler, Detlef Wiedeke, Michael Scholz and Birger Corleis), never got the right credits, and licenses, Bohlen promised them. There are some problems with some people that take partiality with a side or other of the story, as a result we have this kind of conflicts. Here in wikipedia seems is impossible to keep a neutral position, and more impossible to keep a real serious neutral biography about this band. There are many excuses, manipulation of the rules, the reliable sources are not taking like important for personal questionable decitions, is really a pity can't exist some fair here. Who can read the history of the editions, can realize, how many times people tried to say the truth, recently I just tried to complete the information, I didn't attack, offend, or say any nosense with my contribution, but the vandalism only come from those that try to hide the truth. So we are notify, this story about Modern Talking is manipulated, and don't give enough serious information. I hope any good and fair solution can come in future. --Bluesky84 (talk) 17:28, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Find a reliable source - not someone's blog, not a page on geocities.  Something in the music press.  Doesn't necessarily have to be online - could be in a print journal.   How do YOU know this is correct - how did YOU find it out? Elen of the Roads (talk) 18:17, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Aye, there's the rub.  "Reliable Sources".  Also, Bluesky, read the vandalism article ... continually adding unsourced material to an article is far closer to being actual vandalism than anything else.  This is especially important in biographies of living persons - unsourced content will get you in big trouble. (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 18:43, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

text: I can see the sources you've added to Systems in Blue - I've asked you about one on your talkpage.  I don't read German, so I'm not quite sure what I'm looking at.  We wouldn't normally view YouTube as a reliable source - this is mainly because of issues around linking to items that violate copyright. Elen of the Roads (talk) 21:09, 12 August 2009 (UTC)

text: I think you need a global login....  On the sources, talkingforever.com is a fansite - English Wikipedia will accept the official site belonging to the band but not a fansite (official often has little meaning where fans are concerned). http://www.systems-in-blue.de/] I have no problems with, and I have already said that this article should include a section on the contribution over a number of years of systems in blue to the sound associated with Modern talking.  Where I'm having a problem with is the idea that Systems in Blue have been done out of anything by Modern Talking, and the article should 'set the record straight'.  While it is quite possible that there was a court case, an out of court settlement and a non-disclosure order, it shouldn't be mentioned unless there is a reliable source for it.  Has the music journalism press not said anything ever? Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:52, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is not Neutral 

message: All my sources are deleted and this page is blocked! I'm no vandalist, i'm very serious! Many people believe that dieter is the backroundsinger of Modern Talking, because we can seeing Dieter singing next to Thomas Anders. But in fact he don't sing real. He has studiosingers to produced the vocals for Dieter. Dieter can't sing! We can hear it by the strophes of Blue System, he has a very bad voice. I have never hear that voice by Modern Talking! The refrains of Blue System are sung by Rolf Köhler, because it's the same voice as the leadvocal from Systems In Blue. But everybody know's that. But by Modern Talking did dieter the same as by Blue System. The refrains of Modern Talking are also sung by Rolf Köhler and other singers too. Dieter moves his lips without actually singing! Bohlen has always portrayed himself as a singer, but he has never been a singer. This is his business. Why is youtube no reliable source? By the first video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDxvKKouTJs&feature=related) we can hear and seeing Rolf Köhler singing and we see the Modern Talking records of Detlef Wiedeke. It's a fact that Detlef Wiedeke singer is by Modern Talking. By the second video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYmhLFk_9KA&feature=related) we can hear demotapes from bohlen and that's the same voice as the Blue System Strophes, but on the demotapes he sing in Modern Talking style and it sounds not the same as the Modern Talking choir.
And here we can more demotapes hearing from Dieter: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oE8jH2N2dQ&feature=related. It sounds very bad, it is not similair to the voices from the Modern Talking refrains. It is a shame as we saying that this is the same as the Modern Talking chorus. I know that wikipedia don't accept youtube videos, but this is the only manner we can hear and see the proof about it. An if you very good listening to the voice of Michael Scholz of Systems In Blue: it is the same high-pitched voice from Modern Talking. We can also hear the voice of Rolf Köhler (the voice of Blue System) at the Modern Talking chorus. Listen to the song "Let's Talk About Love". The refrainvoice of that song is similair to the leadvocal of the refrains from Blue System Songs. We can find the proofs at the Modern Talking and Systems In Blue songs there.
Maybe it's not professional, but look also to this http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Talking and this http://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Talking. Their names are also written on this wikipedia pages. And there are more wikipedia pages were the names from Systems In Blue are written, because it's a fact that they are the chorus of Modern Talking.
83.83.95.239 (talk) 08:17, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I am agree with you, again this article was destroyed by Harout72, maybe exist any way for dennounce this user?, I don't know how works this english version, please hold on!!, you have all my support, and all users that try to help here before. --190.234.167.10 (talk) 08:33, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: This is strange

message: I have here other reliable source from Stern. it say: " 
Von 1984 bis 2000 arbeitete Köhler für so ziemlich alles, was Dieter Bohlen produzierte: Engelbert, Al Martino, Bonnie Tyler. Sein bedeutendster Einsatz jedoch war es, Teil des Kastraten-Chors von Modern Talking gewesen zu sein; Blue System, Bohlens zweites großes Projekt, prägte er mit rauchigem Gesang. In seinem Studio im niedersächsischen Brake hatte Köhler die Goldenen Schallplatten aufgehängt, die er für seine Mitarbeit an den Erfolgen von Modern Talking und Blue System bekommen hatte. Offiziell, für die Millionen "Bravo"-Leser und Verehrer des Duos Bohlen/Anders, gab es ihn in diesen Bands nie - genau so wenig wie seine Chorkollegen Detlef Wiedeke und Michael Scholz.
Vor einigen Jahren, anlässlich des Comebacks von Modern Talking, waren die drei Sänger an die Öffentlichkeit gegangen: Von Bohlen selbst, so erklärten sie, stamme kein einziger Ton auf den Schallplatten - was der bis heute bestreitet. Die Plattenfirma zahlte jedem der drei daraufhin 100.000 Mark, ein Taschengeld, verglichen mit den Einnahmen, die diese ihr beschert hatten."
Translation (sorry mistakes): 
"From 1984 to 2000 Köhler worked on quite everything that was produced by Dieter Bohlen: Engelbert, Al Martino, Bonnie Tyler. But his most important employment was to be part of the Eunuch-Choir for Modern Talking; Blue System, Bohlens second big Project was shaped by his husky voice. In his own Studio,which is located in Brake/Lower-Saxony, Köhler had all the gold records, which he has received for his work and success on Modern Talking and Blue System. Officiall, for all the „Bravo“-Readers and Fans of the Bohlen/Anders-Duo, he and his choir-mates Detlef Wiedeke and Michael Scholz were never existing. Some years ago, during the Comeback of Modern Talking, the three singers made it public: they explained that not one single tone on his records was sung by him – which he denies 'til today. The record company paid each of the three 100.000 Marks, just pocket money compared with the incomes the company earned."
 
--Nitendra1 (talk) 09:00, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ugh ...  new level of complexity: another short translation of above: "a bunch of guys did work on an album, got paid poorly, were pissed off, came out saying that they were the only singers and the other guy wasn't, which is denied". (talk→ BWilkins ←track) 09:26, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I really don't want to include arguments about whether Bohler can sing in this article, otherwise it'll go the way of those white cats that I'm trying to pretend don't exist.  Stern is a reliable source though.  I am guessing that any out of court settlement included a "keep your gob shut" clause, which is why there is so little substantive material out there. Elen of the Roads (talk) 09:54, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: *I should have added WP:TLDR when I first encounter the statement by the new guy. --Dave1185 (talk) 09:57, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have been asking them to bring translations, so I read it. Elen of the Roads (talk) 11:49, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

text: The question is - how to include the information without breaching WP:UNDUE.  I think it can quite appropriately be used to support the already existing statement about the band's characteristic sound being due to their regular support crew.  I would even go to the extent of adding that said support sued for a proportion of royalties on these grounds, and an out of court settlement was reached.  I do not want to see anything about whether or not Deiter Bohlen can sing - if we have an article on him somewhere, maybe it could be added to that. Elen of the Roads (talk) 11:49, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contribution to this article 

message: Let's discuss this, rather than throwing around accusations of nonsense.  If Aqua and Barbie girl are Eurodance, I don't see that Modern talking falls into that category. If Synthpop is Kraftwerk, I don't see them fitting that one either. I await other views (of which I know there are several) Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:03, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Modern Talking's genre would be categorized best as Europop. Calling an acts' genres Electronic music is incorrect as Electronic music refers to vast majority of dance sounds. In other words, any track that is composed of synthesizers-based sound whether New Wave or Techno or Trance could be viewed as electronic music. The reason why Modern Talking's genre could be viewed either Europop or Eurodance or both is because they have covered europop in their earlier records ('85-'87)  (europop could be best described as a pop genre having synthesizer-based sound to it). I would; however, call their later recordings ('98-'03) both Europop and Eurodance as they covered both the Europop as well as the Eurodance (which is a europop leaning more towards techno based genre).--Harout72 (talk) 22:37, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd give you Europop, I remember Europop.  Perhaps I'm viewing Eurodance too narrowly as it's not something I ever listened to (other than that bloody earworm "Barbie Girl")  --Elen of the Roads (talk) 22:42, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

text: So would I as Europop would be my first choice. Electronic Music; however, must go. --Harout72 (talk) 23:04, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Synthpop and Europop would work for MT. However, I'd like to point out that many of their later recordings (1998-2003) were Eurodance including "You're My Heart, You're My Soul '98", "You Are Not Alone", Sexy, Sexy Love", "Win the Race". In fact, those mentioned tracks cannot be called neither Europop nor Synthpop as they are pure Eurodance numbers. --Harout72 (talk) 06:04, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Can we say that in the article.  I think it would make things clearer.Elen of the Roads (talk) 08:56, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classification 

message: Hi, there's has been a very long fight about the members of the group. Dieter Bohlen NEVER sang anything on Modern Talking, so why he is listed as he has done choruses. Ok, don't put there Systems in Blue members, but, be realistic, Bohlen never sang. --MisterWiki talking! :-D - 15:29, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Saying that Bohlen has never sung is incorrect. Bohlen may not have always produced vocals for choruses of "Modern Talking", but indeed he has contributed vocals this time or another. After all, why wouldn't he or why couldn't he? He was the main singer of his own project "Blue System", wasn't he? He indeed did sing at "Modern Talking's" concerts, didn't he (don't confuse this with promotions of their materials, during which they were almost always on playback). Even the sound engineer has confirmed that Bohlen has always been part of the main voices, see this here. --Harout72 (talk) 01:26, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Maybe when I learn German I would know what does it says. Yes, he did sang on Blue System, but very bad, and not on the choruses. I've heard some of the Modern Talking concerts and he did sang, but on the albums he didn't, that's for sure. --MisterWiki talking! :-D - 02:13, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

text: Well, by example can be clearly listened Rolf Kohler's voice on the Dr. Mabuse chorus. Is possible that he could do the same but these are not his voices. --MisterWiki talking! :-D - 13:41, 30 November 2009 (UTC)

text: OK. --MisterWiki talking! :-D - 20:21, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Members 

message: *Please expand the lead to conform with guidelines at Wikipedia:Lead. The article should have an appropriate number of paragraphs as is shown on WP:LEAD, and should adequately summarize the article.[?]1
*Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings), headings generally do not start with articles ('the', 'a(n)'). For example, if there was a section called ==The Biography==, it should be changed to ==Biography==.[?]
*Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings), headings generally should not repeat the title of the article. For example, if the article was Ferdinand Magellan, instead of using the heading ==Magellan's journey==, use ==Journey==.[?]== The beginning of Modern Talking ==
*The script has spotted the following contractions: Don't, if these are outside of quotations, they should be expanded.
*As done in WP:FOOTNOTE, footnotes usually are located right after a punctuation mark (as recommended by the CMS, but not mandatory), such that there is no space in between. For example, the sun is larger than the moon [2]. is usually written as the sun is larger than the moon.[2][?]</ref>.,</ref>,,
*Please ensure that the article has gone through a thorough copyediting so that it exemplifies some of Wikipedia's best work. See also User:Tony1/How to satisfy Criterion 1a.[?]
You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas.  --MisterWiki talking! :-D - 14:22, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review 

message: Please visit Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/Modern_Talking and show us your support for a Modern Talking wikiproject. MisterWiki talking! :-D (SIGN!!!/REVIEW)</b> - 19:53, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikiproject 

message: : If someone wants to, please translate this from Spanish language. Thanks. --MisterWiki talk contribs 01:49, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that article is in a great mess, and whoever is fluent in Spanish and willing to put in hours of work, might want to clean up, and remove all poorly sourced statements which the article is full of, not to mention that it contains a lot the same material which the English version of our article was desputed over.--Harout72 (talk) 16:27, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Spanish

message: Please note that we are not to fill this section with names of insignificant acts. There maybe lots of unpopular acts out there covering Modern Talking's materials, that certainly does not mean we need to link them to Modern Talking in any way. --Harout72 (talk) 02:37, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The most important cover band is Talking System, they used the Systems in Blue vocals to make a similar mix to MT. That's why I linked them. --MisterWiki talk contribs 13:46, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: See Also Section

message: Can I draw everybody's attention to the matter of sources. I can understand that a lot of the contributors who edit the Modern Talking article will not be from english speaking countries, but the preference for the english language Wikipedia is for its sources to be in english so that they can be easily verified. If no english sources can be found, then foreign language sources have to be translated accurately, either in the main text body or as a footnote (if it is a direct quote), or as a footnote or on the talk page (if it is merely citing a source). Please see WP:NONENG for further information. 80.47.106.231 (talk) 23:09, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm afraid but it's almost impossible to locate English language sources for Modern Talking as they have almost been unknown to the English speaking world. I will, however, try and go over the statements which are supported by German language sources and correct them if they need to be.--Harout72 (talk) 00:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you Harout. I can understand that English sources for Modern Talking are harder to find, but if foreign sources are going to be used it's actually the information itself that needs to be included in both German and English, not just the title of the source. For example, if a German source is used that says Modern Talking are the best-selling German music duo in the world (like the one in the current lead section), then the original German wording of that sentence from the source should be included as well as an English translation. If its too long to fit the original German wording into the main article body, then it should be included in the footnotes of the article. If an accurate translation cannot be added for a foreign source, then the source should not be used. This is the problem we face by not using English sources to begin with, as it creates extra work. Unfortunately, a few of the current sources need to be replaced because they are either dead links or they do not support the information they are being cited for - such as the claim that they have sold 120 million records worldwide (which is why it is so important to include an accurate translation). 88.104.28.108 (talk) 13:05, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-English sources

message: (I'm not a english speaker, so it's possible that my english sounds bad, sorry for that)
I think it is very strange that 'Systems in Blue' removed from the 'see also' section because they have producred oncredited vocals. And 'cc catch' are not removed because it is produced by Bohlen. That is no good reason. Systems in blue are the singers of Modern Talking, they are also important to put it there. There names are not present on the albums (instead of Let's talk about love) because marketing reasons. But Modern Talking exist no longer, so i see no reason to removed there names. 
And Rolf Kohler, Detlef Wiedeke and Michael scholz has also, like thomas anders, golden records of Modern Talking for there collaboration with Modern Talking as singer. There names are credited on the golden records that they have.
But however, credited or not credited, they are the singers of the modern Talking chorusses, that's a fact! And i also understand that there are much people that don't believe that, because there are never presented on concerts and albums etc and Bohlen has never told about it to the media.
But the last years there are more people knows that rolf kohler to be the most important singer of the high pitched chorusses. Like here in the netherlands, germany, spain it's almost known about this. And that's the reason that on the other wikipedia pages about modern talking much more info about SIB (with realible sources of course) are written.
So I don't understand why the words 'Systems in Blue' and the names of the members are not much present here on this page. Explain please.
87.212.141.181 (talk) 20:24, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Those names are briefly discussed within the section of Production and Sales Figure, and that should be enough. System in Blue has no direct relation to Modern Talking nor to any members of the duo; therefore, it's redundant to include their name under See Also. The fact is that the members of System in Blue have never officially been credited for producing vocals on Modern Talking records, and that should explain the exclusion of System in Blue from See also. On the other hand, C.C. Catch is directly related to Dieter Bohlen as all of her records were produced by Bohlen. I hope this clears things up for you.--Harout72 (talk) 20:35, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  System in Blue 

message: Modern Talking's earlier recordings 1984-1987 can be viewed as New Wave. Please discuss before making attempts in removing it. Also see Modern Talking's genres at Allmuic.--Harout72 (talk) 00:06, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If you knew about music, you'd know that MT is not New Wave. New Wave emerged from Punk, and MT never came near PUNK, not before and not after MT, they are pure commercial, ultra-easy, anti-aggressive, conventional, POP. (E-Kartoffel (talk) 00:57, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You can't *list* MT at wikipedia as a New Wave group because "it can be viewed" as New Wave. MT are not a New Wave group, they are basically a mainstream pop group and extemely well known for that. They are not even known to be inspired by New Wave. Bohlen was already a Schlager singer, not a Punk, in the late 1970s. He is very happy making commercial easy music. Only allmusic has this list of genres and a very brief profile, with New Wave listed very late (possibly only because New Wave happened at the same time in the early eighties). Is that your only source? That does not qualify for a category entry. No wonder an edit war about the genres is going on here, really. Please only list the group in the main real genre, not the "can be also viewed" ones.(E-Kartoffel (talk) 12:21, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Genres

message: Removing chorus from Dieter Bohlen's name from the members-section as user E-Kartoffel in this edit has is incorrect. Note that Thomas Anders has not been officially addressed anywhere on Modern Talking's materials as the lead vocalist, yet he is, in the same vein, regardless that it's not stated anywhere on Modern Talking albums/singles that Bohlen has produced some/all vocals on choruses, he has. Please do not remove without discussing it first.--Harout72 (talk) 00:15, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I see you claim to be interested in the music industry? How?.... First of all: there are only two *members* of Modern Talking: Anders and Bohlen, so the section must not be named *Members*, Second: the list is extremely incomplete: Rodriguez is only one of many producers MT worked with and they *are credited*, other musicians are also credited, like for example the future Systems in Blue, and lead guitarists etc.. And yes Dieter Bohlen *can occasionally be heard singing* on MT records (and additionally it is known that he mimed to voices of session musicians), if you take this as reason enough to credit him with "chorus" and leaving out at the same time the people who arranged and sung the vocals on MT records, your decision can be considered very tendentious. (E-Kartoffel (talk) 00:55, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mind at all if you want to call the section Member and Contributers, I simply reverted much of your edits to an older version. However, we are to include the names of those musicians and producers who have officially been credited for their specific contributions. That would leave System in Blue's musicians out for having produced vocals, if they in fact have sung on all MT records. By the way, I only see those names, Birger Corleis, Rolf Kohler, Michael Scholz, Ralf Stermman, Dieter Wideeke having been thanked along with Arnie Studio and all the fans of Modern Talking on the second album Let's Talk About Love, no specifics whatsoever as to whether they are being thanked for singing or something else. I hope you don't similarly suggest that we include the names of all the fans only because it is stated on there.--Harout72 (talk) 01:26, 17 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Okay there is no satisfying credit from MT for the Systems in Blue members on the MT records (but hasn't Bohlen reverted this somehow later? can't there be references found?) Plus: I wonder if the word of Systems in Blue does not count. Is there a need to insist on the state of information of 1988? (no, I guess). There is no need to call them group members, they are session musicians who contributed to the project Modern Talking, and that always has been Anders and Bohlen. Even when Eric Singleton was a contributor, the cover still showed the duo, therefore Singleton is more a guest on vocals. It is the same with the producers involved, you don't call record producers group members, like George Martin was not a member of The Beatles. The early MT releases had very little information about , but later this changed a bit, discogs.com is quite informative for credits. In my opinion it is really important that the section should be renamed "Members and contributors" and an introduction would also be fine: noone will be hurt (E-Kartoffel (talk) 11:32, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Dieter Bohlen on Choruses

message: The article Thomas Anders v. Dieter Bohlen doesn't appear to be notable on its own.  It would be suitable as a portion of this page—perhaps chopped down considerably from its current state, as it may have some WP:BLP issues.  (The translation from German is weak, so I can't tell for sure.)  Would this be amenable? // ⌘macwhiz (talk) 02:56, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion that is not an article to keep and should not be merged with this. It should be listed for WP:AfD.--Harout72 (talk) 06:04, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough; I don't know Modern Talking from Look Who's Talking so I didn't want to presume.  People sometimes get touchy about things like that. :) // ⌘macwhiz (talk) 19:53, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger from [[Thomas Anders v. Dieter Bohlen]] 

message: Knife Party's first EP is entitled, "100% No Modern Talking". Could this be a reference to this group? 7 June 2013  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.182.29.199 (talk) 23:08, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference by [[Knife Party]] 

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