Talk:Loom

message: i thought that you could just weave, when using a loom, with your hands. Threading the yarn/fabric with your hands...do you have to use a shuttle????--139.168.95.178 01:00, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's certainly possible, but has serious disadvantages. A shuttle provides you with a place to compactly keep plenty of yarn so that the weaving can continue unbroken. Trying to do this by hand requires either holding a relatively unwieldy chunk of yarn in hand, or creating unfortunate breaks in the pattern of the weaving. --Eyrian 09:18, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  weaving 

message: The floor loom section focuses on contemporary weaving; it needs to be expanded to include the invention of heddles, then treadles, and then the draw loom and how it works to create figured fabrics.  I'm not an expert and I'm having trouble finding a quality source that puts times and places on these inventions. - PKM (talk) 20:48, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Floor looms

message: I've reassessed this article to the new C-class, as I don't believe it meets the updated criteria for B-class.
In particular, the section on shuttle looms toward the end of the article and the section on floor looms near the top have redundant information which leads to confusion.
To-do:
* Restructure into an organization based on historical development or complexity.
* Balance historical handweaving, mechanized weaving, and modern craft handweaving
* Standardize the depth of coverage here with "main" articles connecting to various kinds of looms
- PKM (talk) 18:35, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reassessment

message: The text I have commented out below, has no place in this article- no references etc, and it is hindering the development of the main article. I looked at creating two stub articles from it but there really is not enough there, so I have left it here until someone can use it. I have been concentrating on Power loom (where you will find some useful references). but now was the time to check that thew the two articles were consistent. --ClemRutter (talk) 10:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Simplification

message: Shuttle loom is a one-sentence article.  I suggest we merge and redirect it here. - PKM (talk) 02:58, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: --ClemRutter (talk) 08:26, 22 May 2010 (UTC)

text: . Location (talk) 01:58, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Making it so. - PKM (talk) 22:55, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: I have removed the section "Tapestry Frame Loom" as it is commercial spam including manufacturer's links. - PKM (talk) 22:55, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed section

message: In Computer Science contexts, it's often noted that looms provided the key innovation of punched cards, which later became a general purpose information storage medium.
I came to this page to figure out just how precisely a punched piece of paper controlled a heavy weaving machine. To my dismay, the article doesn't mention punched cards at all.
If anyone has specialized knowledge of looms and punched cards, please consider adding it to the article. --Thomas B♘talk 08:56, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punched Cards 

message: There are some good pix on this page, along with a diagram and a film.  However, a simplified diagram of the key parts of any loom, showing where the shuttle goes and the key terms closer up, would be good.  Thanks.
IceDragon64 (talk) 23:31, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll second that. Ten years later and we still could use a good simple diagram. GA-RT-22 (talk) 00:50, 28 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diagram 

message: I have been having fun with something called a Knifty Knitter. To my surprise it is not mentioned in Wikipedia. It is a plastic circle with pegs to wrap yarn around. -- Michael Flower (talk) 23:46, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a circle loom, a new example of French Knitting. As it is a  commercial product, I suspect that it will never be seen as product placement and zapped. I think you should research Knitting Nancy and see if you could add to that article.  The only way to get material on Wikipedia is to try..... See you around.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ClemRutter (talk • contribs) 14:43, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is the Knifty Knitter? 

message: Most likely predates language as the sound. Below the letter in between [l] is not English phonetics. English phonetics is newer like the kanji point of trajectory mentioned below.
[l] sound of snapping branch or log prior L.ANd.ing that predates L.ANc.ing
[oo] sound of branch attached leaves noise long and strong like roar without the power
[m] sound of pair-bonding attraction of hum with a shut mouth or moan with open or masculine [k][uu][m] = change moan humm. or night time damp or other rhythmic murmuring admiration of cumnt.
[s] attribution of pain (ash in) of bone tools sound of self distress or sorrow or loss regeret such as expectation of sore snap through exclamation of power roar enforcing replication or negotiating reply or compliance. unlike searing osteo-ash from the lamb bone.
Ancient technological relations that might include:
Most likely origin of sights and sounds mimicking meaning.
Signaling sorrow lessening dance avoiding wast void howl.
Possible close cluster of technologies, biased phonetics trajectory like hiragana, katakana, kanji but prior to structured writing and alphabet.
[f/ks/x] [l] = floating/barkpain/willforcing woodsnap:
Gathering storage and transportation pre-basket wood logs, gathered lumps insertion and wood woven.
Fishing sticks and weapons in general.
Nestful floor, wall and ceiling.
[e] [l] = SwearResistingReplyOwnWillActing woodsnap:
pre-measurement fitting ell. Non-consent.
[f] [e] [ll] = PerfectFertility OwnWill woodsnapLonger:
Fire management.
[v/f/b] [rr]
Divorce ending in power purr. That predates [b] [o] [r] Could be the key population copulation technology earlier then gathering and mating gifting. Both expelling into less fertile tundra that's gonna become habitable soon after thanks to long climate cycles and frequent periodic extinction due to short sun spot cycle. And voluntary abandonment in search for fertile warmer climate. But do not ask me how it evolved into old and cold.
Besides fair diva purr management there is probably going to be traveling tribe merger of dominance structures and domesticated animals tracking untill departure and pair-bonding tribe reassignment on departure. Logging belongings earlier alike the knot indexing of quipu by number of spins around the trunk thread till the knot of the spun thread to count the furs and herds. And the logging is late form of the mistress manage ate called ma mama earlier then female gods theocracies.
Fishing or weapon stick and foreign fruit sheets predating baskets providing young fresh ferocious fertility a knotted net fishermen Phoenicans.
Fruit gathering (ha he rr in = gaze thy power youth). Pay(gaze) in good looking cloth. Medical pre-roman herb collection. Sling (s l in g = pain snap youth go).
Wall and roof knitting and logging and walking administering hereditary ownership stick, sling and building lock angling.
As I said it's just guesswork and obviously the concept of phoneme become gradually irrelevant with the feedback loops substitutions and structured language.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.99.163.104 (talk) 19:00, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Can I make a appeal to the informed ip-editor above to register for an account with Wikipedia- so you gain a talk page and a history, and you can keep a watchlist. There are other areas where your knowledge would be valuable but we have no way of getting in touch at the moment.ClemRutter (talk) 08:27, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  guesswork: most likely predates language 

message: You need a sortout of the weaving types. Firstly, incle weaving techniques should be inserted before the drawloom as they are it's technological precursor - indeed, it might be argued they are the same. Secondly, you're missing the tablet loom, which replaces the draw threads (which will eventually become heddles) with tablets rotated by hand, usually carrying a number of warp threads, which allows double-weaving, although this only really appears once multiple-heddled looms came on the scene. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.250.135.238 (talk) 22:57, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing loom type 

message: The lamm is a (simple) mechanism that (somewhat) controls (or steers) the movement of the wire between the treadle and the shaft. It is a slender beam that goes from the side of the loom perpendicularly to the treadle to the point where the wire is to be. One end of the lamm is fixed to the wire, the other to the side of the loom, with a kind of hinge, so that the other end can move up and down with the wire. The lamm and the treadle, together, make the wire go relatively straightly up and down. If there is no lamm, there may be a tendency to pull the shafts somewhat sideways, which may have negtive effects on the weaving. I have this problem on my 200 years old loom that lacks lamms. Wikipedia is miraculously full of valuable information. But information about lamms seems to be lacking. --Ettrig (talk) 07:30, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lamm 

message: Please give more information about handloom 
If you Say no 
You r stupid 2401:4900:33AB:E28:1EB3:3330:6D8E:1CA9 (talk) 03:54, 8 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is handloom stupid guys