Talk:Timpani

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replies: text: I've removed the replaceable fair use images. I've replaced the Beethoven's ninth symphony excerpt with a free recording of the entire 2nd movement. Graham87 01:43, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free content 

message: Do you think we could update the to-do list with what needs to be done other than reffing, etc.? This would especially help those of us in WikiProject Percussion who want to help with the collaboration of the month but aren't exactly adept at article-writing.  -Evan ¤ Seeds 04:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I did some updating of the list. Tell me what you think. Kakofonous (talk) 04:21, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What exactly do you mean by consolidating the lists?  --Evan ¤ Seeds 20:32, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I clarified it—there were two things I wanted to say, but I didn't combine them very clearly. Kakofonous (talk) 20:58, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Can the list be Update again in-line references have been added extensively. Philip.t.day (talk) 11:03, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update the to-do list? 

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message: Timpani are most commonly sold in INCH sizes worldwide! Just for a few examples, check the sites/catalogs of Kolberg (Germany), Adams (Holland), Premier (England). 71.236.65.158 (talk) 18:22, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why were drum sizes changed to cm primarily? 

message: Rather than risk creating an edit war, we ought to discuss it here.  What is the singular of "timpani"?  It seems to me that if one must be used, "timpano" is the most appropriate, since the word was borrowed into English from Italian.  Strictly speaking, though, the word has no singular form in English, and we ought to rephrase to avoid needing to use the singular.  In any case "one timpani" is non-standard at best and probably should be avoided.  Powers T 12:39, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a bit issue-avoiding, but people quite often say one "timp". We'd need an WP:RS for that but I do hear it happening. Maybe people are doing it because consciously or otherwise they are uncomrtable with the fake singulars and so on? What would be a source for this? DBaK (talk) 08:33, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singular of Timpani 

message: From the first paragraph: "Unlike most drums, they are capable of producing an actual pitch when struck, and can be tuned, often with the use of a pedal mechanism to control each drum's range of notes." 
This may need clarification or deletion, many drums can be tuned and WILL produce an actual pitch. The unique parts about the tuning of timpani are the pedal and the definition of the pitch the drum is tuned to.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.244.100.79 (talk) 22:20, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pitch 

message: Muffling or damping is an implicit part of playing timpani."
Is "implicit" really meant here?  As opposed to "explicit"?  Or is the intent something like "integral"? 71.166.248.180 (talk) 15:26, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Implicitness of muffling 

message: This is a really awesome article.  I went through and corrected some minor grammatical items but there was one part that I wasn't sure what you were trying to explain so i'll just include it hear so you are aware:
"In his Overture to Benvenuto Cellini, for example, Hector Berlioz realizes fulls chords from the timpani section by requiring three timpanists and assigning one drum to each". This is in your Extended techniques section.  I'm not sure what is meant by "fulls chords" and i'm not sure if it is supposed to be plural.  Other than that, the article is in great shape.  Good job!  Ragfin (talk) 22:54, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer Review

message: Many of these edits are incorrect.
* Kettledrum is one word in Merriam-Webster
* "Commonly" is subjective and unnecessary
* timpani "stick" and timpani "mallet" are both acceptable and commonly used
* saying a timpani is grammatically incorrect; it should be avoided
* this article is a GENERAL OVERVIEW. special cases need not be included for the sake of clarity and brevity. (e.g. timpani with silver bowls)
* The colon is the correct punctuation mark to set off a list. "They have two components: a shaft and a head." 
* The added first comma in the following phrase "In his book, Anatomy of the Orchestra, Norman Del Mar writes ..." is incorrect since Norman Del Mar did not write only one book. It does not make sense to remove the phrase... i.e. "In his book, Norman Del Mar writes ..."
** Actually, I'm not sure about this one. Can someone check me here? The next one I'm fairly certain about, though. 67.163.244.124 (talk) 02:20, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation of my edits (some reversions of Ragfin's edits) 

message: Are all kettledrums tympani? Andrewa (talk) 21:17, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe so... Philip.t.day talk 23:17, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

text: @Andrewa (Replying to this decade-old post because I know you are active): Actually, no. All timpani are kettledrums, but not all kettledrums are timpani. Many other encyclopedias, such as Britannica and John H. Beck's Encyclopedia of Percussion specifically point out how they are not the same. If you would like to help me with a new page, visit my sandbox where I am working on a new article to discuss the more historical overview. Why? I Ask (talk) 02:01, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, TIL something. Great start in your sandbox! Not sure I can help but watching with interest. Andrewa (talk) 03:37, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Kettledrum

message: Is there a formula giving the frequency of a kettledrum in terms of the tension of its drumhead, its superficial density and its radius, analogous to the well-known formula {{1}/{2 L}} \sqrt{{T}/{\mu}} that gives the frequency of a string in terms of its tension, linear density and length? I realize that, contrary to the case of a string, this would have to be a formula specific to the kettledrum, not a property of any circular membrane, since for a two-dimensional membrane the spectrum can be quite complicated and not even give a definite frequency (e.g. the case of the kick drum). Does the book by John Backus "The Acoustical Foundations of Music" have anything about membranophones? Contact Basemetal here 07:43, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
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Is there a formula for the frequency of a kettledrum?
 

message: Isn't this list a tad indiscriminate? Practically every major symphony has a timpani part, so unless those themselves stand out (like in Haydn's Symphony No. 103), they should not be on the list (whose very inclusion in this article is of questionable value). Toccata quarta (talk) 04:36, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "List of famous orchestral works"