Talk:Adelaide/Archive 2

message: I remember watching a TV programme a couple of years ago about Adelaide having a terrible Murder rate. Is or was this the case as it seems like such a nice place in the photos. Holden 27
:As I recall, there was a British documentary made a few years back,  on the Peter Falconio disappearance (in the Northern Territory),  that mistakingly claimed that Adelaide was the 'murder capital of the world' - a ludicrous suggestion. The show's producers later retracted the comments, removed them from the production and aired an apology. In reality, I think either Washington D.C. or Bogota have the highest murder rates. Althougth, at the time of the documentary, there had, unfortunately, been a recent spate of murders - the Snowtown killings.--Cyberjunkie 09:56, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: To put it another way, even though the rates of murder and other violent crime are quite low, but when something does happen (Snowtown, the Beaumont kids, etc) it tends to be grisly and creative enough to get media attention. Our murderers embody a spirit often heard among the city's prouder residents: we're fewer in number but that much more artistic, classier even, than the rest of the country. :p J.K. 13:15, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess it may be worth having a "Adelaide crime" article one day in the future, but after working on the Snowtown murders one I'm not rushing to do it Lisa 04:51, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

text: I think you missed Jiminy's sarcastic tone. Adelaide is no different to any other city in the prevelance of mental illness and poverty (what a ludicrous and offensive statement!). The way Adelaide does differ, which you were close to getting at but ultimately failed with your limited no-doubt Susan Mitchell-derived insight, is that the underbelly is rarely brought to light as it is so frequently in Melbourne, Sydney and Perth. --cj | talk 08:56, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adelaide: City of Corpses? 

message: Adelaide has a very large urban area for a city of 1.1 million and its suprising the urban area is so large considering Adelaide overall on average has the highest density of people per square Kilometer (615/km²) out of all five major Australian cities. I mean the Northern suburbs extend quite far but the Southern suburbs just go on and on. I made a relevant reference to this under the section "Urban Layout" but someone took it away. Why? what I said is true and I'm from this city so I think I play a role in adding to the page on it. User talk:You Are Here 20:43, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huge Urban Area 

message: Recently, there has been a proliferation of sub-headings in the article. Whilst these headings have been accompanied by truly valuable information, I would like to advise against their use. Generally, (and having being involved in several FAC's I can attest), headings are avoided as they un-necessarily inflate the contents table and interupt the flow of the prose. (It used to be possible to create sub-headings that did not appear in the contents, but the recent MediaWiki upgrade repealed this function.) I have revised the page to reflect this.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 11:14, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't a more diverse amount of headings simply break the text down so it's eaiser to read and differentiate? I havent been able to correctly judge yet - but the for the most part I'd see an enlargement of the contents list as proof of the article's concise and diverse amount of information. In most featured city articles (which I believe the ultimate aim for Adelaide should be) they have a diverse contents list. I've been the one adding most of the information and breaking down/expanding the articles and whilst I wouldn't want to upset the norm, my goal would be a feature-quality article on Adelaide and want to pursue any means to that end. - G 11:48, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Headings

message: If the guy's determined to use wikipedia for advertising purposes it could always be mentioned here on the talk page. That's what I would have done if I were in his position rather than start an unwinnable edit war. As an anonymous editor I don't think this person's got the right idea of what wikipedia is about (i.e. an encyclopedia). - Diceman 13:36, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Keep in Adelaide

message: *Comment It already exists at List of Australian radio stations. --Scott Davis Talk 12:26, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Move to [[List of Adelaide radio stations]] if and when it exists

message: * I don't want a separate list created unless it is done properly - the last thing we need is another incomplete and/or pointless list à la List of churches in Adelaide. For the time being, the existing list of radio stations in the article will do. That list already includes the major stations (and some minor). --Cyberjunkie | Talk 08:33, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Remove from this article

message: This has nothing to do with the article but I'm wondering it for my own sake, did Adelaide and Melbourne have any rivalry before the Grand Prix was moved, are they rivals outside of the field of securing economic opportunities? I put "arch-rivals" in the grand prix paragraph but that's how feelings between the two cities seemed to me. I was about to put "long-standing rivals" instead but that might be untrue as I didn't pay any real attention to interstate politics before the change in venue. For all I know Sydney and Melbourne might have a greater rivalry. - Diceman 16:56, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's rivalry on Adelaide's part, much the same as the Sydney-Melbourne rivalry is predominately a Melbourne thing. In our case it's probably just an extension of the SA-Vic rivalry, which again, is mostly on our part. In my experience, Victorians don't really give a shit about Adelaide - they're more pre-occupied with Melbourne being usurped by Sydney as Australia's pre-eminent city.--Cyberjunkie | Talk 03:04, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Melbourne-Adelaide rivalry 

message: Does anybody know where in Adelaide ore refining is done? I think it might be more South Australia rather than Adelaide related. Kevin 12:39, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not in Adelaide (from my little google-search)... Cheers, - >>michaelg | talk 13:09, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Silver, lead and zinc at Port Pirie. Iron ore at Whyalla. There's not an ore refinery in the Adelaide area that I know of. There is a currently-disused oil refinery at Port Stanvac in the southern suburbs. --Scott Davis Talk 13:56, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economy 

message: How can Adelaide music be given some note under culture? For example the List of Australian hardcore punk groups article refers to a number of Adelaide based bands. Currently the Prominent Adelaidians section notes a number of musicians. Paul foord 05:57, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Culture (music) - Prominent Adelaidians 

message: Good start on this section. However, I should just mention that there was not opposition to Light's design of Adelaide, but his choice of site. Governor Hindmarsh, being the obstinate and authoritarian man that he was, insisted most stridently that Adelaide be a harbour (or coastal) city and advanced the Port River, Holdfast Bay, Kangaroo Island and Boston Bay (Port Lincoln) as locales - the latter two of which would have certainly seen the colony fail. Ultimately though, it was not his decision, and Light and his supporters obtained support the Commissioners in London (much to Hindmarsh's chagrin). --Cyberjunkie | Talk 13:58, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Urban Layout

message: While it's good to see expansion of this article, I've removed some of the recent changes to the article because they require references and some were not Adelaide-specific; they were broadly state-focused.--cj | talk 13:20, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll rewrite the sections again with more of an Adelaide-focus. Might even throw in some footnotes too (was planning to add them in when I'd finished with all the sections). -   Gt 13:24, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent changes

message: Got to love the references to him being the saviour for South Australia. Personally I'd disagree (while his social policies and reforms may have benefited, his transport and economonic ones did not). I'd remove the reference to Don. He's already praised enough both in the culture section and in his own article. -   Gt 14:24, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not celebratory of Dunstan. Like him or not, the era of his premiership is pivotol to the development of modern Adelaide, so much so that almost all literature (that I've come across) agrees. However, whilst Adelaide and SA made social, political and cultural gains under Dunstan, it was largely under Playford that South Australia advanced economically.--cj | talk 14:56, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Don Dunstan

message: Is it just me or do the images added by rocky88 make this article look damn ugly. would revert but thought i'd leave it to people who contribute to the article to decide if it needs reverting. Bartimaeus 12:38, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good images, poorly integrated. I've corrected this.--cj | talk 13:18, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Images

message: It needs a slight prune and a copyedit. Any takers? -   Gt 06:14, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History Section

message: Would this section be able to be moved to another article and listed under "see also" down the bottom? It's not on the other city articles and doesn't work in well with following the guidelines that Canberra has set. -   Gt 03:49, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've transferred it to an article entitled People of Adelaide to correspond with the category of the same name. I had no attachment to the section as it was, but we could include another short section linking to People of Adelaide as a main article. --cj | talk 11:52, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was actually planning to get Adelaide ready for FA before study starts again - I'm not sure how best to include 'People of Adelaide'. Tempted to put it under 'See also' with a link to it in the article itself aswell. I wanted it removed both because it doesn't exactly belong and it raises the article size needlessly. -   Gt 12:14, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Prominent Adelaideians

message: There are too many conflicting numbers of the Adelaide population. What to use? according to this link the population of Adelaide (including the outer region, 2001) is 1 224 804. If there are no responses or other suggestions I'll be changing them all over soon. -   Gt 09:43, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the best source to use is the ABS, which puts Adelaide's population at 1,124,315 as of June 2004 (see here). Outer Adelaide is not really Adelaide, but a region far greater including some of the Hills, the Barossa, the Fleurieu and Alexandrina, and even KI (see here). DEH's figures are from the 2001 Census anyway. After this year's census, we'll have even better statistics. I've updated the article.--cj | talk 15:59, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Adelaide Population

message: The change would bring the article more in line with Canberra (which is FA)
Suggested Layout:
*Infrastructure
:*Public Transport
:*Road Network
:*Air & Sea Ports
:*Utilities
Any suggestions/comments? -   Gt 02:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems okay, although I'm unsure. I think Health should have a subsection, as well. I think it's reasonable to separate public transport from other modes; however, the Road Network part could be troublesome. I'll ask nixie to comment.--cj | talk 02:25, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I've started it. Need to re-expand the transport section again appropriately though. Thanks for the comments nixie! michael talk 03:48, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Transport > Infrastructure

message: Oliyoung removed an update to the Port Adelaide Football Club suggesting it was about something called PortPower, There is no such thing called Port Power. There is however the Port Adelaide Football Club est 1870, that was formerly known as the Magpies, the club no longer plays in the SANFL and now plays in the AFL, the clubs team is nicknamed "Power" and the club had a long and proud history in the SANFL up until 1996.
The PAFC website will show you the club history, which is correct and the PAMFC website also points out the PAFC joined the AFL.
Why do so many take it unto themselves to try and change the clubs history and what the club tells you about itself ?
: No, I removed a statement that alluded that the Port Adelaide Football Club (AFL) is the same entity as the Port Adelaide Magpies (SANFL). The Port Adelaide "Power" are a seperate club from the "Magpies". To quote the Magpie's wikipedia entry "in 1995 an organisation separate legally from the existing one but intended to carry on the old club's heritage and culture, the current Port Adelaide Football Club, was incorporated to further the bid."
: I was editing on the basis it was incorrect, it was an unverified edit, and that the information is already contained in the seperate articles Port Adelaide Magpies Football Club and Port Adelaide Football Club, which I should note conflict in their representation of the club's split Oliyoung 23:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sport > Port Adelaide Football Club 

message: I propose we start using the Notability guidelines in sections such as music, famous people and other relevant areas in this article. We've had issues before with the notabilty of radio stations, and there are additions to the local musicians which are questionable at best. Oliyoung 00:40, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm inclined to agree, but have no knowledge of the music scene to judge local notability. I had my finger poised over the revert button recently, and decided to leave it to someone who knew. --Scott Davis Talk 04:58, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you're referring to some anonymous editor just adding in their own band. That's not notability, it's just vandalism (or a misguided contribution). The section (Culture) is fine as it is. michael talk 06:13, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that I'm called for specifics, it was adding Clue to Kalo to People of Adelaide that I was thinking of. It has some web hits, and I had not heard of several others already in the list. I'm not familiar with the music scene or how to tell which music web sites count towards notability. I didn't feel I could revert that anon edit without being confident the others already in the list were more notable than the addition. --Scott Davis Talk 07:23, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, the point behind the notability guidelines is that you don't need knowledge of the music scene, if they've charted, had X record sales etc, then they're notable, it gives us a testable and consistent protocol for future additions. Currently it's okay, I've never heard of "I Killed the Prom Queen" but from a brief google, they seem to be somewhat notable. Oliyoung 06:21, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree about the point of notability guidelines. Google alone is not a suitable measure. I'm not competent to judge borderline cases on music. --Scott Davis Talk 07:23, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability Guidelines 

message: Just been flicking over the Perth discussion as well as this one, and am surprised that no one has dubbed Adelaide dull, boring or even resorted to it's famous 'overgrown country town' label. I have spent many years in both Adelaide and Perth, and in 2006, would confidently say that Perth is far less dull then Adelaide. The 'Perth lifestyle' seems enviable! Perth also presents more economic prosperitity than most parts of Australia (in line with NW WA exports). Not trying to start another inter-city bicker, Just find it hard to believe that this page does not already start on the topic of dullness- as Perths' does. Unfair i think. Any subscribers?
No. Its sheer opinion, easily refuted by someone else's perception and hence does not belong here. Something some Wikipedia subscribers simply cannot grasp.
:Sounds like it can all be summed up in this sentence: "Ever since Lonely Planet Guide 2000 declared Perth one of the dullest cities on earth, and dubbed it "Dullsville", the word has become part of the city's psyche". - Diceman 15:50, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In an encylopedic sense it's a joke to include it! I find it very offensive too... I love Adelaide's lifestyle; the pubs, beaches, rolling hills - I love my home. michael talk 00:23, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I've always found it funny that the only thing anyone has to say about Perth upon returning from there is that is "very clean".cj | talk 03:10, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adelaide more dull then Perth? 

message: This section is notably underwritten (not complete). This needs to be addressed; it ruins the image alignment too and just stands as a distraction from the rest of the article. Any suggestions for what else could be included in this part? michael talk 10:13, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can I suggest splitting this section into: ===Councils=== and ===Politics=== in order to broaden the information that can be presented and write a worthwhile section? Its obstructing the otherwise good quality of the article. michael talk 05:13, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Governance

message: What is the deal with this, how come no australian cities have a flag or logo in the info box, I'm gonna add one when I find it, it's stupid every other city has either a logo or flag, but no australian cities do, why the hell is that?
:The logo is at the relevant council article: City of Adelaide. All the suburban councils presumably have their own flags or emblems. - Randwicked Alex B 07:00, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The information in the form you added it is more suited to Wikitravel than here. Your first two sentences would be OK, but they really don't say anything to make Adelaide distinctive compared to any other city. Do Adelaide clubs and pubs have any distinctive features that make them (as a whole) distinct from Sydney, Melbourne, Perth or Brisbane pubs? --Scott Davis Talk 14:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why no flag or logo? 

message: I added some information about some popular nightclubs and added links as well, however it was reverted as they seemed to be advertisements. Regardless Nightlife information should be present on this article page and can I ask that you people keep it and contribute more information to it? Axle5084 06:44, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The information in the form you added it is more suited to Wikitravel than here. Your first two sentences would be OK, but they really don't say anything to make Adelaide distinctive compared to any other city. Do Adelaide clubs and pubs have any distinctive features that make them (as a whole) distinct from Sydney, Melbourne, Perth or Brisbane pubs? --Scott Davis Talk 14:25, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nightlife

message: After leaving Adelaide a few years ago, particularly initially, I was asked where my accent was from - "New Zealand?" "England?".  Other people I have spoke to who have left Adelaide have reported the same thing.  Seems to me this is a notable and interesting thing that should be addressed here?
I think it's something to be quite proud of - that Adelaideans have their own unique style of speech.  Perhaps this came about from Adelaide not having a convict-based history? Nicknick
:See South Australian English. michael talk 12:48, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adelaide Accent 

message: Renamed 'Governance' section as 'Politics and Government' to correspond with other Cities. Is this a mistake? If there is an Australian city template, my apologies. Also, Added Sister City section. Foster2008 01:54, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See Canberra for an Australian featured city. City of Adelaide is the local government area that organises sister city relationships. michael talk 02:25, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Governance and Sister Cities 

message: I once heard current lord mayor Michael Harbison speak about the concept of Adelaide's layout, which Colonel Light also used in Christchurch NZ, and Toronto. Apparently the grid layout interspersed with city squares, and the parklands "green belt" is derived from a medieval italian concept for the "perfect city", where every block of land would have park frontage (roads in those days being park-like). However I have never seen any documented reference to this "catonaic" urban plan and wonder if anyone knows anything further about it. I've also heard that the width of the parklands roughly corresponds to the range of a 19th century cannon. Can anyone confirm or debunk?--EDH 00:45, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Catonaic" (sp.?) City Layout 

message: Adelaide To Do had request for pruning of entire article. Action taken. Adelaidepruned is the result. This is what Adelaide would look like with this version of pruning. It is about %23 smaller. Discuss. Neutralaccounting 23:01, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Remember to sign comments with three tides (~~~~). That 'Adelaidepruned' is in the wrong location—it should be deleted soon. Without making changes to the original Adelaide article its very hard to compare the differences. michael talk 04:47, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've copied Adelaide content to Adelaide/draft and saved, then edited it and copied the content of Adelaidepruned. The differences can be seen as the difference --Scott Davis Talk 11:38, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fulfilled Request 

message: Do we really need two photos of Rundle Mall in an already cluttered article? The 1988 photo with the Malls Balls is iconic but out of date, while the modern photo is of one of the malls less photogenic angles. Perhaps a new photo should be added, with, for example, the Malls Balls in the foreground and Adelaide Arcade in the background? Just a suggestion.--AtD 15:04, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rundle Mall Pics 

message: Could some one possibly find out the Degrees, Minutes and Seconds for Adelaide and fix them as most other Major Australian cities are in DMS???? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.158.45.83 (talk) 08:32, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Click on the link and scroll down to the table to find the coordinates translated into several formats and coordinate systems. --Scott Davis Talk 10:11, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Coordinates

message: It would be good if someone could add a pic/paranormic photo of Adelaide's night skyline from the Adelaide Hills. RaptorRobot 10:34, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are already enough photos in the article, including this night skyline.--cj | talk 19:21, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, the night skyline photo I referred to two months ago has now been removed because of an inappropriate license. As for a new photo of the skyline, you're welcome to go take one and upload it. --cj | talk 06:58, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture request of Adelaide's night skyline??

message: Does anyone have a better image of the state flag?
The current one, particularly the piping shriker image, looks positively amatuerish, and the colors look wrong too.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Fashion cadaver (talk • contribs) 11:46, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: State Flag

message: I've added citations for the Formula 1 moving to Melbourne, and the State Bank collapse. The F1 citation could be better, and the other could possibly be merged with the one from the Economics section. Better than none though. Kevin 01:58, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good work :)--cj | talk 02:21, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations

message: It is not possible that the city of Adelaide, Postcode 5000, has a population of 1.1 million.  Even 3,000 would be pushing it.  I think it should be mentioned that the 1.1. million encompasses 'X' square kilometers/miles of suburbia as it is otherwise misleading. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.122.240.225 (talk • contribs).
:I've added metropolitan area, the same as Sydney and Melbourne. Kevin 08:26, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There was never any suggestion that the population was for the city-centre – it's patently clear this article covers the metropolitan area. And, by the way, the city-centre's population is much more than 3,000; it's currently estimated at around 17,000. --cj | talk 09:10, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Population

message: Done one :Image:Streetmap of Adelaide and North Adelaide.svg - any thoughts on whether this is usefull for the article and what changes are needed ? - Peripitus (Talk) 10:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good map — for the article on the CBD. A metropolitan map would be much more useful here. Michael talk 11:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can do - may take a while as I'm still getting the hang of Illustrator - 11:29, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maps so far have been very good, so thanks for putting in the time. I don't think we've got any other SA'n mappers out there. Michael talk 11:30, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Map

message: It has been told that Adelaide has run out of 8000 numbers and are now using 7000 numbers (e.g. 7000 0001) From now on, if you apply for a new number, you'll get a 7000 one like mine. The 7000 number is now used in Queensland AND Adelaide. Tom140996 (talk) 22:05, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Phone Numbers

message: B class, needs to improve citations, image usage and layout. I also removed an image as its a fair use without rationale IMHO it'd be difficult to justify a FU image of a News report in a city article. Gnangarra 11:21, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: WP Aus B-class assessment

message: The monthly average data is inaccurate and should be removed until such a time as it is replaced.
58.105.58.21 (talk) 22:47, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Climate averages table is very inaccurate

message: Please note that the coordinates in this article need fixing as: 35 degrees south
:There does not to mind appear to be anything wrong with the co-ordinates. -- Mattinbgn\talk 20:53, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Mattinbgn; the coordinates mark a point on the east side of Vic Sq near the Catholic cathedral. 35 degrees south runs south of Centenial Park Cemetery, Windy Point and the Belair Triangle. (i.e. About 10km south of the centre of the city.) Pdfpdf (talk) 08:53, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Coordinates

message: In order to uphold the quality of Wikipedia:Good articles, all articles listed as Good articles are being reviewed against the GA criteria as part of the GA project quality task force. Unfortunately, as of
September 16,
2007, this article fails to satisfy the criteria, as detailed below. For that reason, the article has been delisted from WP:GA. However, if improvements are made bringing the article up to standards, the article may be nominated at WP:GAC. If you feel this decision has been made in error, you may seek remediation at WP:GA/R. 
*Every statement that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs an inline citation.
Regards, Epbr123 16:04, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: * The main things you'll need to worry about are the GA criteria. But I suspect that the top priority will be referencing. - Bilby (talk) 00:40, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA delisted

message: Could this article possibly become a GA in the near future. It looks fairy well organised and well written. Aaroncrick  (Tassie Talk) 00:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone?..... Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 05:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the diff between the current article and the article from Jan 28th (a day after it was removed from GA). I'll admit I haven't really had a good look at the article, but running through the diffs it doesnt really look like many, if any inline refs have been added, which was cited as the main reason for the delisting. Having a quick look through the article, I'd agree with that assessment. It's pretty thorough, though some of the information may be a bit trivial in the context of a large city - and most of the existing refs are to verify these tidbits. The main body of the article needs a lot more inlines, though most will probably be able to be cited to a small number of good sources like histories. Once inline citations are adequate, I think GA is very attainable. Still, it's a big article and will need a lot of refs (and existing ones checked for deadlinks). It'd be good if a few editors would agree to each tackle a segment. I'd be happy to do the "history".--Yeti Hunter (talk) 07:24, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

text: I think so.. Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 07:29, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact, I think it's so close to GA anyway (its essentially a formatting issue) that we might as well push for WP:FAC. For this we'll need a better lead image (taken from a similar position on a clear day with a big lens), a few subheadings and a bit of rewriting in the history section (it's a bit of a slab of text right now), and of course all the refs. There haven't really been any ongoing disputes that I'm aware of.--Yeti Hunter (talk) 01:44, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: GAN

message: I removed the claim, "It is roughly a linear city" because Adelaide does not sound anything like that described in the article.  It would be better to simply show the shape of the city with a good map delineating its boundaries, rather than trying to describe it in words. -- Beland 18:10, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Linear city