Talk:Durham School

message: To expand the Durham School page we need, I feel, a couple of sub-sections adding into the Extra Curriculum section. I know that music is a key part of the school life - CDs have been made and sold, performances at the Sage in Gateshead, etc. Theatre / drama is too. Should we add in the BBC Any Questions that was held in the school a couple of years ago? Anyway, these are outside my remit as I'm not up to date on them. Anyone else out there to add these please?
Also, please could someone expand the sports section to include information on the other sports?Teach46 (talk) 09:47, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: New sub-sections needed

message: Bow, Durham School, formerly known as Bow School, is the integrated prep school for Durham School. It is situated about 1/2 mile east of Durham School.
Should we have a separate page for Bow or a section here? Whichever, is there anyone to write it as I know little about Bow School.  --Teach46 (talk) 10:17, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Generally schools lower than secondary level are not considered notable enough for their own articles, unless they can be demonstrated to be significantly more notable than your average primary or prep school. – Toon 14:51, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair point - I think Bow may have some significance, let's see if someone comes up with a reason or to write addtions here.--Teach46 (talk) 14:53, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

text: To this end, and somewhat anticipating the result of this consultation, I have added a section for the prep school so that we can expand on it. If it gets too big it will, perhaps, need to move to the bottom.--Teach46 (talk) 15:33, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bow School 

message: In April, someone placed a PrimarySources line in the beginning of the page. I think it was Coyets on the 25th April as far as I can see. I have done a bit of work to add in references and can't see many more that I need to add. I have looked up in WP:Help how to go about removing this but can find no information. So, unless anyone objects I intend to remove it as I feel the article has sufficient references to allow its removal, whilst accepting that, like many articles, it needs further work. Comments please.--Teach46 (talk) 14:32, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the process of removal is this; if nobody objects on the talk page, it can be removed. While there could probably be more third-party sources added, I think removing the tag would be fine. We could use some sources (even from school websites etc.) for things like the school song, mind you. – Toon 14:55, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I know what you mean about the song! However, printed on the back of the menu for the end of year ball may not be too easy to reference! It is correct, I've checked, but to reference it????--Teach46 (talk) 15:14, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ha, I'm not sure that would qualify as a reliable source. It's not the most contentious piece of information, so I think it can stay until we find a decent source for it. – Toon 15:19, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I could scan it - soup stains and all??? ;) --Teach46 (talk) 15:22, 28 August 2009 (UTC)

text: The article now has third-party references, so  is no longer appropriate, but I'd say that  would be warranted.  Kanguole 15:07, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you elaborate please Kangoule?--Teach46 (talk) 09:59, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, you've improved it a lot since last I looked.  Still, the history, house system and school song sections could use more referencing.  I expect there's a book or two about the history of the school out there.  Kanguole 10:32, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair points! There is a book, got it, can't find it, not at the library that has it! It will have to wait a while I think. These are sections that I didn't write in any case, but I'll tidy them up in due course.--Teach46 (talk) 10:35, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

text: I've now changed it - see refimprove below.--Teach46 (talk) 13:07, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Primary Sources

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Durham School (Durham, England) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RFC bot 15:00, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion in process

message: Further to discussion above about the primary sources, I have now changed this to a refimprove on the relevant sections.--Teach46 (talk) 13:03, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Refimprove

message: Following a request I am granting this article C-class and retaining its High-importance. A decent article with lots of content and references. The article is not far from B-class, but further improvements are needed. The lead section is only two sentences long, it should be expanded to summarise the entire article as well as introduce it. The history section needs a lot of expansion, particularly given the school was founded in 1414, a lot of history must be missing. A section on academics would also be nice. The extra-curricular section is good though avoid external links mid article and the CCF section is unreferenced. The alumni list is impressive except there are no references, some of those listed will fall under WP:BLP, so refs are really needed here. The text of the school song is generally not appropriate content for Wikipedia. Firstly songs can be copyrighted, what is the copyright status of the song? Even if it is in the public domain it should probably put on Wikisource and linked to from the article. The referencing in the article in general is tidy, though nine out of twenty references are from the school website, so some more variety is needed. Camaron ·  Christopher · talk 14:22, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: The coordinates need the following fixes:
* I've added in the coordinates of the Boat House in the infobox rowing club. These have also appeared in the article messing up the coordinates for the school (which is not the same location). Anyone able to fix this? Thanks.
Teach46 (talk) 08:13, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinate error 

message: Well, I didn't want to do it but I've thought about what Camaron ·  Christopher · talk said above and I have come to agree, the song had to go. So, with some regret, I have deleted it.--Teach46 (talk) 18:16, 9 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  School song 

message: It has been requested that I re-assess this article, and I have decided to leave the article at its existing ratings. The lead section is now a better length though it could still be expanded further, and the second paragraph is a little promotional. The sentence "Unlike most schools, however, Durham School operates a house system; all students are members of a single house." is rather problematic. The "most schools" comment needs a reference, though I suspect that it is probably unsourceable as it depends on the country you are in e.t.c. The wording "all students are members of a single house" is ambiguous and needs to be clearer; when I first read that I thought it was saying that the school only had one house, which obviously left me a bit confused. It is good to see lots of images appearing in the article, though the images should be on the left or right side with the text flowing around it, see MOS:IMAGES. The school logo in the infobox would also be good. The article contains an excessive number of quotations, each section should mostly be written in an editors own words with multiple sources integrated together as necessary. Referencing is coming along nicely, though there are still some gaps which need to be filled. It is good to see that references use citation templates, though not all parameters are being used, such as title= and date=. Camaron ·  Christopher · talk 13:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-assessment 

message: The article gives an (out of date) overview of the results of the school and the subjects offered. The latter, in particular, is taken direct from the school website with no editing and has changed this year. I am far from convinced that this section adds anything to the article. Surely any school offers a range of subjects? Durham School offers nothing out of the ordinary here - exo-biology for instance - and there seem to be no major subjects left out. The results section needs to be updated to reflect the 2009 published figures and the 2010 ones when they become available later in the year. Again though, is this worthwhile - an interested party can check on the BBC website as easily as a wiki editor?
Thoughts please?????--Teach46 (talk) 10:23, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Academic results and subjects 

message: I am re-assessing this article for WikiProject Schools and granting it B-class, as I now believe the article passes the WP:BCLASS criteria. I will quote the assessment request as there are some issues raised that need addressing:
I have done a lot of work on this since Camaron ·  Christopher · talk  assessed it back in January. I have specifically address his concerns re lead section, image location, school logo is not public domain as far as I can see, I have removed almost all quotations, referencing is pretty good, I do not understand the comment "It is good to see that references use citation templates, though not all parameters are being used, such as title= and date=" seeing as I think they all do. I have also remodelled List of Old Dunelmians and included a Headmasters of Durham School. Thanks, --Teach46 (talk) 11:01, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Third assessment 

message: Is the school sometimes referred to as "Durham Grammar School"? (see this search)
At the moment, Durham Grammar School is a redlink, but Durham grammar school redirects here.
If this is the grammar school, then the article should say so explicitly, and both links should redirect here ... but if not, Durham grammar school should be deleted. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 05:48, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Durham Grammar School 

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message: This article is about the Durham School that served ages 3 to 18. There are now three separate schools with the name Durham School re-used as the name of the 12–18 school. Perhaps we should close this one out as a closed school and write new articles about any of the new schools that are notable.
New schools:
* Chorister School (3-7)
* Chorister School (7-11)
* Durham School
Gab4gab (talk) 12:27, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: In September of 2021 Chorister School merged with Durham School and began operating under Durham Cathedral Schools Foundation as three separate school. Per the UK government website The Chorister School closed 28 September 2021. A press release detailed merger plans with some details changing on implementation.
Gab4gab (talk) 20:17, 24 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Durham Cathedral Schools Foundation is a parent organization for what are now three separate schools