Talk:Fargo (1996 film)

message: I would like some clarification on this fact. The source used for this section is a book published in 1992 (Footnote 17). How would the woodchipper idea be "later reused" but cited in a book published four years prior to the release of the film? --Kchambers (talk) 07:37, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Reception: US Government

message: The article quotes the opening "TRUE STORY" text:
"THIS IS A TRUE STORY. The events depicted in this film took place in Minnesota in 1987. At the request of the survivors, the names have been changed. Out of respect for the dead, the rest has been told exactly as it occurred."
In the film, the word "occurred" is spelled "occured". Should this be represented here? Perhaps with '[sic]'? Yokwephil (talk) 23:09, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Nitpicking - opening text

message: *  ... plot synopsis, review, cast, production credits, awards
Reference available for citing in the article body. Erik (talk) 20:13, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Allmovie

message: To the anonymous contributor at IP address 68.192.130.189:  I don't see any point in changing "he kills Carl" to "he attacks and kills Carl with an axe". The fact that Gaear uses an axe may be notable because it could reflect on his character, but the axe might also have been handy at the time, and the course of events isn't dependent on his choice of weapon.  As for "he attacks", I think that's more or less implied.  The summary is currently over 600 words, so I think it already has enough detail.  —Codrdan (talk) 06:41, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Attacking and choice of weapon

message: Does anyone know any more about the snow globe that was released with the special edition VHS?  I just altered the article to remove the reference to the wood chipper, because an anon. changed it to say it was the overturned car.  Does anyone know which it was? ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 00:21, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Snow globe?

message: I removed the following unreferenced section and bring it here for discussion:
:The title to the film is taken from the city of Fargo, North Dakota, which plays a small role in the beginning of the film, seen only in a wideshot for only a few seconds following a short scene set in a bar. Although a subtitle states the scene is set in Fargo, the actual shooting location for the bar was in northeast Minneapolis. The rest of the film is completely set around Minnesota, mostly in Minneapolis and Brainerd. However, due to the mild winter of Minnesota during production, much of the film was in fact shot in North Dakota. During an interview with Charlie Rose on the special edition DVD, the Coens stated that they titled the movie Fargo because it sounded more interesting than Brainerd.
As far as the title of the film is concerned, that seems rather obvious.  The rest of this is, or should be, covered in the locations section.  This is all simply redundant. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 16:02, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Title/location

message: I'm looking for some feedback on this revision about the origin of Jerry Lundegaard's name. Would any citation be sufficient to add this bit of trivia to the Wiki article? It seems rather well-supported to me.  RepublicanJacobite, has removed the info twice now, hopefully someone else can weigh in. Unclevinny (talk) 01:09, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Fact vs. fiction

message: The locations section is referenced almost entirely with the IMDB page, which is not considered a reliable source.  I suggest items sourced in this way be removed, or better sources found. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 02:54, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Locations 

message: I strongly suggest that we merge the List of Fargo characters into this article.  Most of that article is devoid of content, with section headings for both major and minor characters empty after many years.  In most cases, there is little that can be added, because very little is known.  Since there is already a character section here, any of the relevant information in that article can easily be brought here --- in the case of Carl, Gaer, and Jerry, there is some good information, with sources.  But, I see no reason why a film with such a small cast, and with so little solid character information, needs a separate cast article. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 16:26, 8 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Having received no response here in the past 2 weeks, I redirected the list article to the main article.  There was nothing there that was worth merging.  The only two sections that had content were Carl and Gaer, and the content consisted entirely of varying interpretations of their character and motivations.  There is no section in this article where that content would have been appropriate, and these interpretations are of questionable value.  I see no loss in simply redirecting. ---RepublicanJacobiteTheFortyFive 18:50, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: Please do not add or change content, as you did to Fargo (film), without verifying it by citing a reliable source. Please review the guidelines at Wikipedia:Citing sources and take this opportunity to add references to the article. Thank you. The Old JacobiteThe '45 04:26, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: What is the cited source for the "crime drama" descriptive term which I corrected and clarified? N.B.: This is why I no longer edit Wikipedia. I make an improvement; it gets reverted, requiring a "citation" when no citation exists for the original descriptive term. Who has time for this high-schoolish nonsense today? Allen Roth 207.237.89.3 (talk) 12:17, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crime drama or Black Comedy? 

message: I've always felt that the first sentence describing the plot, "automobile salesman Jerry Lundegaard is in financial trouble", wasn't actually established in the movie.
Although the movie shows his fraudulent dealings with the financing company, and he certainly will be in financial trouble in the near future, it seems that during the time the movie portrays, his motivation is greed, and ambition not to be under the wing of his father-in-law, to have his own business, rather than being aware of the quicksand just yet.
Perhaps "desperate for money" is a more accurate description.
Willondon (talk) 05:04, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I wish I could remember the exact dialog at the beginning of the movie, when Jerry is first talking to Carl.  His choice of words may be paramount in establishing the severity of his "problem."  He does say he "needs the money," and that his family "doesn't know [he] needs it."  This doesn't mean a lot on its own, but taking a look at the situation (arranging the kidnapping) then it would be reasonable to surmise he wants the money to fix an existing problem, not just give him a little more financial padding.  He's nervous about the plan every step of the way.  It has always seemed clear to me that Jerry has built himself a house of cards for some unidentified reason.  Whatever the situation, and however severe, it's bad enough for him to engage in fraudulent dealings at work and seek out this investment plan for his father-in-law.  Who knows what got him into the mess; that doesn't really matter.  What does matter is that we plainly see the mess he's in, namely that of the lender hounding him about the non-existent cars which he's already received money for.  
This is really the only piece of information the movie gives us, and it appears to illustrate the urgency with which Jerry needs this money.  Whatever his past troubles were is unknown, but they've culminated in him borrowing money against cars which don't exist, and now the lender is on to him, so he has a very finite amount of time to straighten things out.  Patrick of J (talk) 16:54, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Jerry in financial trouble? 

message: In the movie credits, the actor who played "Victim in Field" is given as Prince's logo, but rotated ninety degrees clockwise. The article shows the symbol as , which isn't rotated. Is there any way we can create the correct symbol? -- Dan Griscom (talk) 02:07, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Found some more info here: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0026824/bio . The symbol is, more specifically, "the Artist Formerly Known As Prince symbol lying on its' side with a happy face in the middle". I can't see the "happy face" on my copy, but there is something in the loop. Not sure where to take this, but the symbol as-is is incorrect. -- Dan Griscom (talk) 02:17, 22 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast: "Victim in Field" as  

message: It's not clear in the current language that the 1997 TV pilot was a continuation or remake of the film - while the 2014 TV series is inspired by the film, and set in the same fictional universe, but with a different cast of characters. I'll try to clarify accordingly. --Chaswmsday (talk) 23:56, 28 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Television spin-offs 

message: On more than one occasion, it has been claimed that Jerry embezzled money from the dealership, and that this is his motivation for the loan from GMAC.  Never once is this stated in the film.  Jerry is clearly in financial trouble, and he is being pressured by GMAC to provide proof of the cars he has put up as collateral, but we are never told what the source of his troubles is.  We cannot make assumptions or speculate in the plot.  We can only state what we know for certain. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 16:32, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Embezzlement?