Talk:Sympathy for the Devil

message: i've removed this subsection because the source it refers to (the Godard film) doesn't actually show the playing/recording of the solo.  and although i agree with the bit about the tone of the guitar, unless a reliable source is cited for it, it's original research, which Wikipedia policies don't allow.  here's what i removed, in case someone wants to rephrase it and source it properly: 
:Film clips from the recording of the song (as well as the tone of the guitar on the released track) reveal that Richards used his 1957 three pick-up Gibson Les Paul Custom. In the clips various amps are seen, with a Vox AC-30 and a solid state Vox Supreme as the main guitar amps. From photos of the "Beggars Banquet" sessions, various Hiwatt amps are seen as well.
thanks Sssoul (talk) 22:59, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's definitely not an acoustic. He used distorted acoustic guitars on "Jumpin' Jack Flash" and "Street Fighting Man" but not this one. Les Paul lines up with how it sounds to me. Something else I noticed once while playing around with mono/stereo on my radio is the odd way the piano is mixed - one channel inverted (out of phase), so when you play it in mono the piano almost disappears, and in stereo it sounds as if it's somewhere out in the room, almost disorienting. For that reason, the this is the only song from Beggars Banquet to receive a dedicated mono mix whereas the rest is just folded down. Comments here, here (including a comment from Bill Levenson, who's seen the master tape), here and here. I think having this information in the article wouldn't be bad, but of course we should find a good source... 22:01, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  the subsection entitled "Musical equipment for the solo" 

message: The Primal Scream/Andrew Weatherall song Loaded uses the same samba rhythm and chord sequence. The question is where did it come from, before Jagger picked it up? [added by User:JCJC777 12 November 2017‎, moved from article space.] —Ojorojo (talk) 23:08, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influences and origins 

message: Related claim: "Jagger sings in first person narrative as the Devil, boasting his role in each of several historical violent atrocities."
However, you could reasonably argue that it is "God" that is speaking. I'm not sure what the intention was, but that sounds better because what would the intentions be of just singing about the "Devil"?
Just look at this:
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:The song taunts us over and over with "What's my name?" even after the narrator tell us to just call him Lucifer.His name is God. Not Lucifer, not Satan, but God. I used to think this verse was just bad grammar:
:As heads is talesJust call me Lucifer
:But the anwer (sic) is right there--cop is to criminal as God is to Lucifer.
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:It's not Lucifer speaking in this song, it's God. 
:Just as every cop is a criminalAnd all the sinners saints As heads is tails
:This song is saying that God is the real devil. It's a maltheistic song.
:So if you meet me Have some courtesyHave some sympathy, and some tasteUse all your well-learned politesseOr I'll lay your soul to waste, um yeah
:It's telling you to worship this evil totalitarian or you will suffer. The title "Sympathy for the Devil" is because people generally worship God and sympathize with him despite monstrous deeds. "Devil" is not a literal term.
95.49.24.188 (talk) 07:51, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The song says "call me Lucifer" but it doesn't say the person is actually Lucifer. I think there is a very compelling argument that God is telling you to blame Satan for these acts when in fact it is his fault. What you say is relevant to Christian theology but doesn't change this fact. 95.49.42.169 (talk) 14:25, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source needed? 

message: Lucifer was the devil's name before he fell, when he was an angel. Satin is using opposites and using his name before he rejected God.
:The song says "call me Lucifer" but it doesn't say the person is actually Lucifer. I think there is a very compelling argument that God is telling you to blame Satan for these acts when in fact it is his fault. What you say is relevant to Christian theology but doesn't change this fact. 95.49.42.169 (talk) 14:25, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: No

message: "Works based on Faust" appears as a template and category but isn't referenced or even mentioned anywhere in the article. What's the source on this? Ribbet32 (talk) 14:51, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: This connection seems poorly researched; to include it is SYNTH. I propose that it be removed. T 84.208.65.62 (talk) 22:36, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Faust 

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