Talk:Wife

message: User:Flammingo has at least twice deleted the fact tags I placed on unsourced content.  This is inappropriate behavior.  Joie de Vivre 18:19, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: you gotta be kiddingFlammingoParliament 20:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleting fact tags

message: Jane Austen and Daniel Defoe wrote the novels not purely fictional; Most 18th century novelists added a preface to elaborate their position. The social criticism, in this context the rights of a wife, is well present in the nonfictional parts. Please elaborate why a novel must not be a source. thank you. FlammingoParliament 21:28, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think novels are appropriate factual references.  Reinstated templates.  Joie de Vivre 21:50, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes me smile, uncontroversial. You'd think. And OR would mean i talked to those Mediaeval Nuns and made that all up by myself. You wouldn't think that, considering the material. Novels CANNOT be "OR", they are the authors opinion of his world, not my opinion of his. FlammingoParliament 21:55, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But the novels do not stand as reliable sources, so they cannot be used for citation here. Without citation, the statements are uncited, and there may still be original research there. I'm bringing back the tags. — coelacan talk — 22:05, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont get why Defoe and Austen are unreliable authors.FlammingoParliament 22:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

text: And what is the guideline of OR that forbids novel authors as a reference? Could you elaborate a bit, a "x", which is shown in Defoe's "y"FlammingoParliament 22:26, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tags and Novels

message: I have to give it to you Flammingo this looks great. Lets all work together and make this into something really good!  If any other people have recommendations or objections please discuss them here first on the talk page, because I believe common ground can always be found and remember to drink Dr Pepper Thank you for looking out! OfForByThePeople 05:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Format 

message: The ip 122.164.62.48 did a wonderful job writing the hinduism section. Unfortunatly, it may be claimed that the section "missed the point": down to the word choice, it says "marriages are..." "boy and girl..." so this should go to marriage#hinduism. Since those guys over there have a vendetta about most things, that seems unlikely, because it would need to be restructured like this one is. Apart from the lack of sources and the English used, I ask (are you there, offforbythepeople?) whether and how we could take the bits out that give information ONLY about the wife, not about marriage. --FlammingoHey 18:19, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hinduism 

message: I have very little idea of what the following is trying to say or how to revise it. Does anyone else?
"One other option was to buy access into a cloister as a nun, also called a "bride to Jesus", consequently being a "bride of Jesus" to support her chastity, and being economically protected. Until late in the 20th century, women could in some cultures or times sue a man for wreath money when he took her virginity without taking her as his wife.LCP 00:44, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, do you like it better now? --FlammingoHey 15:29, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Incoherent Sentence

message: We have Islam and Hinduism but not Christianity in this article.  For that matter, we don't have Buddhism either.  Can someone with appropriate knowledge expand upon these?  And no, Europe is not the same as Christian!  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.48.87.105 (talk) 11:55, August 22, 2007 (UTC) 
:That would be me ;-) Changed.--FlammingoHey 21:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Christianity?

message: I don't believe the connection between religions and form of marriage is as close
as the article currently suggests. These things hardly split exactly along
religion lines, and there are many many more cultures and customs related
to marriage than there are major religions.
I suggest having one section in which marriage is discussed in relation to
(main) religion, and another (potentially much more detailed) where different
existing forms of marriage and their consequences wrt property, family
relationships, name and other similar things are explained.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 121.127.202.147 (talk) 09:11, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Bringing in all customs about "wives" (remember: not "marriage"!!) in the world to one page would certainly be a problem, don't you think?--FlammingoHey 18:42, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Marriage vs. Religion

message: Might I suggest using the OED or, better yet, the Oxford Dictionary of English Etymology (ODEE) as a source for the etymology of wife? Using this page is a poor choice for two reasons: it's not in English (and this is the English Wikipedia) and, more importantly, it's non-authoritative, or at least not as authoritative as Oxford. Thoughts? If no one has a problem with this, I'll update the etymology to match the ODEE (and/or OED where applicable). Dr. C.S. Lewis-Barrie, Ph.D. (talk) 18:17, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're absolutely right. Do it. Wrad (talk) 18:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I shall begin work on this etymology. Please check this entry to keep tabs on progress. I'll update this article when the work is complete. Dr. C.S. Lewis-Barrie, Ph.D. (talk) 19:27, 28 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Remember Bartleby's already in it!--FlammingoHey 18:38, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: I propose to combine the first two sentences from  “A wife is a female lifetime partner in a continuing marital relationship. A wife may also be referred to as a spouse” into: “A wife is a female spouse.”  The main reason is that “spouse” is gender-neutral, whereas the second sentence in the above (current version) implies that “wife” and “spouse” are synonyms.  What do you think?
71.178.188.47 (talk) 14:08, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  lead 

message: The article starts with the phrase "A wife is a female lifetime partner in a continuing marital relationship.". In my opinion, it would be better if the article was referring to the gender, stating "A wife is a woman lifetime partner in a continuing marital relationship.", and no to the sex.
Taliandr (talk) 20:10, 18 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Woman instead of Female 

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