Talk:Laura Antoniou

message: I removed what appeared to be a substantial copyvio from http://www.iron-rose.com/marketplace/aboutlaura.htm
Unfortunately, this makes this article a stub again. To the poster of this material: if you can show that you are Laura Antoniu, or someone authorized to post her copyrighted material here under the terms of the GFDL, please let us know, and we can restore the deleted text. -- Karada 15:51, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
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message: * Laura Antoniou, writing as Anonymous: Lady F, Masquerade, 1993,  (out of print)
Laura Antoniou, "Looking for Mr. Preston," Richard Kasak Books, 1995,  (out of print)
* Laura Antoniou, "The Catalyst and Other Works," Mystic Rose Books 2004,  (previously published by Masquerade Books, 1991)
* Laura Antoniou, The Marketplace, Circlet Press, 2010 ISBN 978-1-88565-57-1 (originally published by Masquerade in 1993 and then Mystic Rose Books in 2000) 
* Laura Antoniou, The Slave, Mystic Rose Books, 2001  (originally published by Masquerade in 1994)
* Laura Antoniou, The Trainer, Mystic Rose Books 2001  (originally published by Masquerade in 1995)
* Laura Antoniou, "The Academy: Tales of the Marketplace," Ed. Karen Taylor. Mystic Rose Books, 2000 ISBN 0-964560-3-2
* Laura Antoniou, "The Reunion," Mystic Rose books, 2002, 
* Laura Antoniou, writing as Christopher Morgan, "Musclebound and Other Stories," Alyson Books, 2002  (previously published by Masquerade Books, 1996)
ANTHOLOGIES
* Laura Antoniou, editor, Leatherwomen, Rosebud, 1993,  (Out of Print)
* Laura Antoniou, editor, Leatherwomen II: The Revenge of the Leatherwomen, Rosebud, 1994,  (Out of Print)
* Laura Antoniou, editor, Leatherwomen III: Clash of the Cultures, Rosebud, 1994, ISBN 9978-15633361956 (Out of Print)
* Laura Antoniou, editor, No Other Tribute: Erotic Tales of Women in Submission, Rhinoceros Books, 1997,  (Out of Print)
* Laura Antoniou, By Her Subdued." Masquerade Books 1995,  (Out of Print)
* Laura Antoniou, Some Women," Rhinoceros Books, 1997 ASIN: B002W9KGCY (Out of Print)
* Laura Antoniou, editing as Christopher Morgan, The Sportsmen," Masquerade Books, ISBN (Out of Print)
* Laura Antoniou, editing as Christopher Morgan, Steamgauge," Masquerade Books, ISBN (Out of Print)
AS CHRISTOPHER MORGAN - Short Stories
* "Looking for Bubba," in Southern Comfort, Ed. David Laurents, 1996, Badboy  (Out of Print)
* Steamgauge," in Western Trails," Ed. Gary Bowen, 1997 Badboy  (Out of Print)
* "In-Tents Encounter," in "Friction", Ed. Gerry Kroll, 2000 Alyson Books 
AS LAURA ANTONIOU - short stories
* "The Way of Heaven" in "SM Pasts," Ed. Cecilia Tan, 1995 Circlet Press 
* "In The Name of Art," in "Virgin Territory II," Ed. Shar Rednour, 1996 Richard Kasak Books 
* "The Little Urban Maid" in "Once Upon a Time: Erotic Fairy Tales for Women," Ed. Michael Ford, 1996 Richard Kasak Books 
* "Electra On the Rocks: Following the Paradigm Tides," in "The Second Coming", Ed. Pat Califia and Robin Sweeney, 2000 Alyson Books 
* "Brian on the Farm", in "Switch Hitters: Lesbians Write Gay Male Erotica and Gay Men Write Lesbian Erotica " Ed. by Carol Queen and Lawrence Schimel, 1996 Cleis Press 
* "The First Time" in "Best Lesbian Erotica 1997", ed. by Tristan Taormino, 1997 Cleis, 
* "Antivenom for the Soul" in "Pomosexuals: Challenging Assumptions About Gender and Sexuality," Ed. Carol Queen, Lawrence Schimel, and Kate Bornstein 1997 Cleis Press 
* "Shayna Maidel," in "Ritual Sex," Ed. Tristan Taormino and David Aaron Clark 1996, . Reprinted in "Things Invisible to See" Ed. by Lawrence Schimel, 1998 Circlet Press
ARTICLES
* Unsafe at Any Speed OR Safe, Sane and Consenual, My Fanny. Essay presented at the University of Washington Institute of Sexuality, 1995. Cf. www.sexuality.org/latrans.html (reprinted by permission in "The Catalyst and Other Works")
* The New Brand. "The SandMUtopia Guardian 18" 1995, reprinted in "The Catalyst and Other Works
* How to Handle the Personals. (Two Parts) "The SandMUtopia Guardian 19, 20" 1995
* To Serve in Close Attendance to Nobility: Samurai Tradition in an SM Context. "The SandMUtopia Guardian 21" 1995, reprinted in "The Catalyst and Other Works"
* Finding a Houseboy. (Two Parts) "The SandMUtopia Guardian 30, 31" (1998)
her wife, Karen Taylor VivianSinclair (talk) 18:03, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Partial bibliography 

message: This author doesn't appear to be notable, having not written any notable books. Can someone supply either references that show one or more of her books to have been on a bestseller list, or one or more reviews in reliable sources of any of her books? Yworo (talk) 15:21, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Some references are given above, but I'm not able to verify them.  Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 17:54, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: None of the references given above are significant. Most of them are written by one or another of the subject's publishers. I've searched Google News and Google Books. The latter lists her books, and a few mentions of her in some BDSM books (many of which are self-published or fringe), but no in-depth coverage as need to write an article on a living person. Yworo (talk) 17:58, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Her novels could fit under the notable books in that they are the first fictional series ever written featuring a Female-to-Male Transgender person as the main character. VivianSinclair (talk) 04:34, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A reliable independent source making that assertion would indeed help establish notability.  Kenilworth Terrace (talk) 06:20, 15 July 2010 (UTC)

text: fwiw, The Leather Archives and Museum considers her notable: "Notable library resources include the writings of the Marquis de Sade, Leopold von Sacher-Masoch, Laura Antoniou, John Preston and Larry Townsend." Leather Archives and Museum  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.161.73.157 (talk) 05:16, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

text: Looking at Notability - her work is cited as follows:  O'Sullivan, S. (1999). "What a difference a decade makes: Coming to Power and The Second Coming." Feminist Review 61(Spring): 97-126.; Setzer, K. A. (2000). Playing on-line: Sexual subjectivity, gender play and the construction of the dyke SM fantasy. Communication Studies. Montreal, Concordia University. Master of Arts: 105; Guidroz, K. (2008). "'Are you top or bottom?': Social science answers for everyday questions about sadomasochism." Sociology Compass 2(6): 1766-1782.  Also her short work have been included in several Lambda Literary finalist anthologies and in the 1998 winner, "Pomosexuals".  Also, as notability, she is included in "Writing Below the Belt" and "Sex Writers on Sex Writing" as a notable writer with her colleagues.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by VivianSinclair (talk • contribs) 14:19, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

text: Antoniou is notable, though she writes in a niche genre. That's not a disqualifier - niche is not the same thing as fringe. It takes some work to locate the sources, but they do exist. In addition to her novels, her work as an editor and commentator through her essays is notable as part the LGBT movement. I found some third-party reliable sources and added them to the article.  It looks like some of the sources posted on this talk page might also be reliable too.  (It would be easier to check those if they had URL links included.)  --Yes, Grasshopper (talk) 19:30, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability