Talk:Saadi Sultanate

message: Needs Latin alphabet standardization. Since the Arabic script page already exists, this should be accomplished with a minimum of fuss. --Mashford 22:42, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
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message: Are you say Mali never exist????, because Timbuktu are part of Mali!!!87.217.107.3 (talk) 20:55, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Morocco ?? 

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thread_title: File:Flag of Morocco 1258 1659.svg Nominated for speedy Deletion

message: I've been watching the edits go back and forth on the characterization of their ancestry.  This is outside of my area of expertise, but wouldn't they be termed Arab-Berber? I know they claimed direct paternal lineage back to Ali & Fatimah, but I don't know about the other branch's of their ancestry which I presume included local berber families. Gecko G (talk) 01:36, 13 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Were they of Arab or Berber descent? or both? 

message: Per:
*Routledge Handbook of history of global economic thought.Vincent Barnett. Page 229. Year 2015, the section concerning the Saadi dynasty is written by Hamed El-Said, Chair and Professor of International Business and Political Economy at the Manchester Metropolitan University Business School (UK). This person's expertise does not appear to be history or this time period.
*Realm of the evening stars.A history of Morocco and the lands of the moors, Eleanor Hoffman. page 116. Hoffman appears to be an author of children's books.
It appears neither of these books is a reliable source. --Kansas Bear (talk) 15:02, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreliable sources? 

message: There is absolutely no proof that the ruling family of the Saadi dynasty identified as Berbers. 
They however identified as Arabs. The rulers of the Almohad and Almoravid dynasties identified as Berbers.  --Ozan33Ankara (talk) 22:26, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Identity of the Rulers 

message: The page has been moved without any discussion, which has already been criticized elsewhere, but the new name does fit the page topic and the term "Sultanate" should be appropriate since the title "sultan" is applied to the Saadians regularly in the sources (including new ones added). So I've revised the lead section to fit the new name. However, I've removed the claim that the common name was "Morocco" or the demonym "Moroccans", as these are contemporary European names that don't automatically apply in retrospective. R Prazeres (talk) 00:18, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  New name 

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message: Like the one at the French Wikipedia page https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saadiens#/media/Fichier:Maroc_-_fin_XVIe_si%C3%A8cle.PNG
And Arabic Wikipedia: https://ar.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%AF%D9%88%D9%84%D8%A9_%D8%A7%D9%84%D8%B3%D8%B9%D8%AF%D9%8A%D8%A9#/media/%D9%85%D9%84%D9%81:Saadi_dynasty_of_Morocco-ar.svg  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8108:2C40:12E4:24FF:7907:F8A0:EE5A (talk) 00:30, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: How is that different from the current map, which shows the same thing, but is more closely based on a reliable published source? R Prazeres (talk) 00:35, 9 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Why not use the Saadi Empire map at its greatest extent?

message: It seems redundant to repeat the multiple English renderings of the name (Sa'di, Sa'did, Saadian, etc) twice in the lead merely due to the wording that introduces the "Sa'di dynasty" in the second sentence after the "sultanate". I've suggested in this edit that the alternate names be listed once after the first bold name, but not sure if this is the best arrangement. Feel free to adjust it or comment.
PS: Though this also wouldn't be a problem if we returned to the article's original name, "Saadi dynasty" (it was moved without discussion in December 2020), and simplified the lead accordingly. R Prazeres (talk) 00:37, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternate names in lead 

message: why isn't the saadi's red flag is shown in the article, according to the Moroccan historian Faqih Al-Menouni, the saadi's had a plain red flag, it's mentioned in the book " Faqih Al-Menouni's research " that's been published by the Ministry of Cultural Affairs 102.38.8.5 (talk) 20:47, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saadi flag 

message: There is a requested move discussion at Talk:Saadian invasion of the Songhai Empire#Requested move 11 December 2023 that may be of interest the editors of this article. 808 AD (talk) 12:10, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move at [[Talk:Saadian invasion of the Songhai Empire#Requested move 11 December 2023]]