Talk:Combined sewer

message: this article should be called combined sewer or combined sewer system.  it is about the system . the overflow aspect is a subordinate detail and in any case we need an article on the system before we can start discussing the overflow phenomenon. Phasechange 23:40, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: article name and topic

message: This paragraph was complex as written. Tried to simply so reader doesn't have to background knowledge to understand. Cleanedwater (talk) 19:51, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: introductory paragraph

message: Existing definition was incorrect. CSO are not an apparatus, they are the flow of combined sewage  discharged from the pipe. 
Cleanedwater (talk) 18:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: combined sewer overflows

message: Added specific examples of how municipalities have mitigated CSO in Michigan. Modified paragraph on storage to discuss facilities that just provide storage. Added paragraph on retention treatment basins that store and treat combined sewage to prevent CSO. 
Cleanedwater (talk) 20:24, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: mitigation of CSO impacts 

message: I added a "globalize/USA" tag to this article because the article is mostly relevant to the United States, so I thought it needed a more global perspective. Combined_sewer#Mitigation_of_CSO_impacts_in_United_States
Jarble (talk) 05:43, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Added globalize tag

message: I think the new section on "smart infrastructure" is doubtful in the sense that laypersons would find it hard to understand. The sources cited are pretty much primary research papers, aren't they? If not, can you give some actual examples (for cities where this has been implemented), ideally with Wikilinks to other pages where this is described more. To me it sounds a bit like wishful thinking - something that could be implemented but rarely has so far. But would be happy to be convinced otherwise if you make further clarification edits? EvMsmile (talk) 00:15, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: I have my doubts about the section on Smart Infrastructure

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I am wondering if we could move (or shorten and link) the part on "ancient sewers" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_sewer#Ancient_sewers) rather to history of water supply and sanitation. What is described there fits in my opinion more in a history article and less with an article that is trying to described what "combined sewers" are all about. The information would not be lost - the reader would be re-directed across. It would make this article more focussed and avoid that the same information appears in two articles. - I would only leave the part here that really deals with what we think of nowadays as "combined sewers" i.e. those pioneered in the UK etc. EvMsmile (talk) 12:04, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I transfered information about ancient sewers to History_of_water_supply_and_sanitation#Ancient_age where I think it fits better. I also think the history section of this article could be improved through contextualizing more history (examples) and the evolvement of combined sewers.--Mll mitch (talk) 08:42, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion to move the part on ancient sewers to the history article

message: I've streamlined the history section a bit more, taking out what I found unnecessary detail about the lenghts and directions of sewers in London, where this info is anyhow there in identical wording in this article: history of water supply and sanitation. Rather than focussing here only on London and Paris we should explain:
* how did combined sewers really work before everyone had indoor plumbing
* where and when did people first move away from combined sewers to sanitary sewers and why?
* what are more recent developments in combined sewers, do they still get built nowadays and why
I.e. the historical developments from combined sewers to split systems needs to be made clearer. I would do it myself if I had the information at my fingertips, but I don't. EvMsmile (talk) 06:38, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a reference already cited in the article than answers your questions at a basic level: Burrian et al, "The Historical Development of Wet-Weather Flow Management" (1999). As discussed in the Burrian article, the majority of the engineering profession had recommended, until the 1930s-1940s, that urban areas be built with combined sewer systems. As communities grew, the prospect of building additional sewage treatment plants with sufficient capacity to treat the corresponding increase in stormwater was deemed to be not cost-effective. Therefore, since that time, new communities (often these have been suburban areas) were built with separate storm sewers. See pp. 7-9. Burrian also has a brief discussion of contemporary thinking (c. 1999) about the possible construction of new combined sewer systems in certain situations (p. 16). The references cited provide additional details. Moreau1 (talk) 04:32, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Could you please add this information to the article? I think that would be good. EvMsmile (talk) 15:06, 24 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have moved the content from the history section that was about sewers in general to history of water supply and sanitation and then replaced it with an excerpt (we could also transclude more paragraphs if we like). I felt it's better to have the general sewer history stuff (London, crowding, cholera, etc) in one place rather than repeated over several articles. It that information from the Burrian article about specifically how sanitary sewers became more preferred over combined sewers hasn't yet been added this should still be done. Actually, I think it's already in there but I didn't see it at first; I have now renamed that section to "Development" but I am unsure if it should become part of the "History" section? EMsmile (talk) 14:03, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section still needs further work