Talk:Doctor of Psychology

message: The background section on this page is filled with glaring inaccuracies. It shows signs of clear bias towards Psy.D and misleading claims against Ph.D training with no empirical support. Suggest that this be rewritten using data rather than opinion.
Major clean up on 19 April 2011 - I have cleaned up and rewritten this whole page. I have added sources and removed promotional claims and comparisons to most other degrees. Please review the work that I have done and suggest additional changes. 24.12.12.43 (talk) 17:01, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I know that the title of doctor is used for PsyD people inside the US, but don't have a reference for it.  169.234.242.185 (talk) 21:34, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
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message: I do not contest that a PsyD may not have the research background that a PhD may have, but a source for that would be nice.
My issue is with the implication that the PsyD has a stronger clinical background that a PhD.  Further, it is stated, albeit not exactly directly, that there is a difference in clinical competency between the two degrees.  It all smacks of weasely statements that require citations to support.
Roodog2k 17:07, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The 2 sentences you've highlighted are also vaguely contradictory. The first says relative emphasis, whereas the second is about absolute emphasis. Coming from a non-US perspective, I'm only familiar with that. There, the clinical component is the same regardless of MA/MSc & clinical diploma, PsyD, or PhD & clinical diploma. Slightly more contentiously, one could argue that if the PhD research is on a clinical topic (which it need not be), then that may make for a better clinician. --Limegreen 21:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I concur.  There is more contradiction when you contrast the clinical ability of PsyDs vs PhDs regarding licensing.  The bar for obtaining a license is the same, so, one could assume (in the absense of any other information) that the PsyD and PhD would be equally capible clinicians. Roodog2k 17:28, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PhD versus PsyD 

message: Ok, made some edits, this is why:
* changed professional to clinical -> A researcher is professional.  One can be involved in the professional practice of psychology as a researcher.  I think its clearer to use clinical here.
* change to explicitly -> Its a direct quote fro the source.
* remove competency -> There is no evidence that demonstrates that any given PsyD is any more competent than a PhD.
Roodog2k 18:03, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  rm weasel statements 

message: Expressions like "But such an argument holds little water", "long since proven themselves indispensable to humankind.", "Trained as clinicians and leaders in the field, Psy.D.'s provide informed, collaborative care at the highest standards" aren't exactly neutral, enyclopedic expressions.
I would suggest most of this article is in dire need of being completely rewritten.
—Felix the Cassowary 17:43, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
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