Talk:Super Scope

message: In the second paragraph, it says that "The Super Scope was popular with fans and game developers." In the last section, it says the opposite: "The Super Scope was never very commercially successful.... Critics blasted it as a bulky and cumbersome device that was difficult to use... Consumers were also frustrated by the Super Scope's quick battery consumption.... In addition, the device was hurt by a lack of compatible software..." Exactly the opposite. Twilight Realm 22:53, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

message: This passage makes zero sense to me (despite understanding quite well how normal light guns work).  Ths scope monitors the scope?  LCDs have no scope?  I can't even fathom what was -meant- to be written.  
"the Super Scope monitors the actual scope in the image to find the position of a sprite with high precision. Upon firing, the Scope relays information about where on the screen it is aimed to an infared receiver on top of the television set. This receiver is plugged into controller slot two of the SNES. Some modern LCD televisions are incompatible with the super scope due to the lack of a scope for the light sensor to monitor."  Alvis 20:29, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please clarify 

message: I have three major problems with this article's description of the inner workings of the Super Scope:
1. The explanation is inconsistent with my personal experience with the accessory. Specifically, I believe that the gun is capable of giving more information than simple "hit or miss", and is able to give specific information about where the gun is aimed. The explanation given by the article would not, as I understand it, allow this behavior.
2. The wording is unclear, but the article's apparent indication that an inexpensive battery operated video game accessory from the early 90's would be able to perform the digital image processing necessary to "find the position of a sprite with high precision", seems unlikely to me. Optical mice require less computing power than this, yet they were not available at the time cheaply, if at all.
3. None of the article's sources make any mention of the technical details of the Super Scope. This is generally a bad thing although it happens. But because of the fact that the explanation is itself suspicious, I think careful examination is necessary.
I will be attempting to either verify the current explanation and reword it so that it is less confusing, or, if the current explanation is incorrect, find a suitable one with good sources. If anyone else can find anything, I'd appreciate it.
Mistercow 01:47, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed 

message: Why does Super Scope 6 redirect here?  It's not the same as the accessory itself and the article has no information about the cartridge itself.  This should be changed. UrQuanKohrAh 07:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Super Scope 6

message: Your interpretation is basically correct. Although I don't know the terms you have asked about, I do understand the basic inner workings of the super scope. The biggest point missing was the calibration routine. It was required by all games to tell the console where the receiver/transmitter box was in relation to the screen. The routine consisted of a target of some sort in the center of the screen. The player would line the sight on the "bulls eye" of the target and press fire. The SNES would calculate where the dot was in relation of the screen center and be able to know where the player was firing in game. If the player moved the transmitter during the game he or she would have to re-calibrate the scope or its accuracy would be negatively affected. Ryan 975 10:52, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional Information

message: I had one of these many years ago, and I am sure it was wired rather than wireless, I certainly never bought any batterys for it, unless in the UK we got a different super scope than the USA 88.109.229.30 15:42, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wireless?

message: I remember seeing this device on Pure Pwnage, id add it to "Cameos and other appearances" but I cant remember which episode it appeared in.--Raifox 05:54, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pure Pwnage

message: :It is shaped like a bazooka and is the successor of the vastly popular NES Zapper.
Was the Zapper really "vastly popular"? Only a handful of games supported it. It was universal because it was included with many NES consoles, but that doesn't make it popular. - furrykef (Talk at me) 23:34, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zapper's popularity 

message: Here in Italy I've always heard of it as "Super scope", not "Nintendo scope", as the article suggests. --Lo'oris 22:00, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: no answer yet? I add [citation needed] --Lo'oris 22:01, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps "Europe" is too broad, and it was called different names in different countries. Also, it may have been marketed as "Nintendo Scope" and simply called "Super Scope" unofficially. Look at the image for proof that it was called "Nintendo Scope" in at least one place. Anomie 00:32, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Searching ebay I found nothing new: people still call it "Super Scope"12, but some boxes say "Nintendo Scope". So it's not only me who use only the original name. I guess the Nintendo official magazine called it Super Scope, despite the name was later changed, but I've no idea where did I put it, so I cannot check. Further investigations pending (maybe) --Lo'oris 12:53, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  European name 

message: Should Super Smash Bros. Melee be mentioned? The Super scope is a weapon in that game.1yodsyo1 15:40, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was mentioned until the entire trivia section was removed. Anomie 18:05, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it a problem if it is mentioned in the introductory area?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.239.121.207 (talk) 00:40, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it would be a problem. See WP:LEAD. Anomie⚔ 15:08, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Melee