Talk:Flag of Spain

message: What does the fleur-de-lis in the middle of the coat of arms on the flag stand for? Does it stand for when Aragon was held by the French as the Spanish Mark? Imperator Honorius 06:44, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The fleur-de-lis

message: Is there any explanation why it's apparently traditional for the coat of arms or whatever insignia to be off center? —Angr 06:21, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Off center 

message: I have changed the order in which the flags of Spain were arranged on the infobox because it was wrong. The flag of Spain is defined on Spanish constitution as divided into three horizontal stripes: red, yellow and red, the yellow stripe being twice the size of each red stripe, without any mention to the coat of arms.
The law regulating the flag says the same but stands too that "En la franja amarilla se podrá incorporar, en la forma que reglamentariamente se señale, el escudo de España."(on the yellow stripes may be incorporated, on the way the regulations will state, the coat of arms of Spain). And the law continues: El escudo de España figurará, en todo caso, en las banderas a que se refieren los apartados uno, dos, tres y cuatro del artículo siguiente. (That is to say that the State and war flags and ensigns must be charged with the Spanish coat of arms, not the rest).
More: The only national regulations currently on force about flags and banners in Spain is the Royal decree 1511/1977, of January 22, (por el que se aprueba el Reglamento de Banderas y Estandartes,Guiones, Insignias y Distintivos).
That Royal decree has been modified only in 1981 (on their rules about the description of the coat of arms), and 2001 by adding a new rule about the Prince of Asturias Standards, and establihes The following:
Rule number 1: "Bandera Nacional: La bandera nacional es la compuesta por tres franjas horizontales, roja, gualda y roja, la gualda de doble anchura que las rojas." (the national flag consists of three horizontal stripes: red, yellow and red, the yellow stripe being twice the size of each red stripe), and includes the flag design, without the coat of arms.
Uses: GENERAL.
Rule number 3: "Bandera nacional con Escudo de España: La bandera nacional con el escudo de España es rectangular, con tres listas normales a la vaina, y escudo en ambas caras." Uses: Buques de guerra, arsenales, plazas marítimas, sus castillos y fortalezas, así como otros cualesquiera de las costas, aeródromos, campamentos, cuarteles y demás dependencias militares. Ministerios y edificios de la Administración del Estado, incluyendo los situados en el extranjero que gocen de la extraterritorialidad. (I daren't translate it, sorry).
I think the Constitution, the Law and the regulations are enough clear to state that the flag of Spain is the one without the coat of arms, and the other one though it is not forbidden for civilian uses, it is established only for institutional uses.
So, if somebody finds the law where it is established that the flag of Spain must wear the coat of arms, please bring it here.
--Ignacio (talk) 09:42, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the expressed here above. I would only say that it will be interesting to make clear in the article that the one with CoA is the one to be used in official purposes but also "tolerated" and (may I even say) "encouraged" in civil use as it lacks of the legal restrictions of use of other flags. The one with CoA has become the flag used de facto by the majority of Spaniards. --MauritiusXXVII   (Aut Doce, Aut Disce, Aut Discede!) 12:43, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Maurice, what you say is totally right. I think it would be a good idea to specify that. --Ignacio (talk) 15:38, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Meanwhile Ignacio, let's wait a bit. I have made contact with a relative which has a degree in protocol related to the symbols and heraldry. I asked him about which of both flags is the one to be used, the civil or the official. His answer was that the official is to be used and that he will send me by email some sources and information about this. I noticed to him what the constitution and the 1981 law say. His answer remained that the one with CoA still to be remain the principal one. Give me some hours to see if I receive this information. --MauritiusXXVII   (Aut Doce, Aut Disce, Aut Discede!) 17:36, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Mostly, the civil flag is regarded as the national flag of the country. I think that would be the one without the arms, as it is in Germany, Austria and Poland. The whole thing seems to confusing There is a tradition in Latin American countries where the flag is more a symbol of the state than of the country and people, but even there stae and civil versions exist. Perhaps that is of influence in Spain as well?..Gerard von Hebel (talk) 00:27, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  With or without... 

message: The two main flag versions are different shades - yet they're not supposed to be...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kurtle (talk • contribs) 19:14, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Colours

message: The text points out that the yachting ensign dates from 1945.  It's from 1875. By Royal Order of 10 August 1875, to be precise.
:According to this webpage in 1945-77 the Spanish yachting ensign bore an ugly 'blue imperial coronet following the model of the Catholic Kings': 
:"http://www.crwflags.com/FOTW/FLAGS/es~yacht.html"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 12:52, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: And in April 1931 it was adopted the republican flag for leisure boats: The Republican red-yellow-purple flag with a mural crown in the middle.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.85.148.202 (talk) 10:07, 19 April 2011 (UTC)

text: "http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/es~y1875.html"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 11:14, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yachts 

message: It sounds likely, but the truth is that Charles III's 1785 decree says  nothing about that. The king asked for a high-visibility ensign and didn't mentioned that the design should be based on historical Castilian and Aragonese flags. Charles III might have chosen a blue and yellow design or a red and white one, for instance.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 11:57, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aragonese origin? 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: I just reverted an edit which I believe was made in good faith, suggesting that the flag of spain is a bicolour flag, not a tricolour. I'm pretty confident that the three lines makes it a tricolour, regardless of the number of colours that are used - am I correct here?  viljo  talk 10:43, 27 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bicolour or tricolour? 

message: I recently updated the (raster-containing) SVG of the civil flag (without crest) and used the hex colours specified in the article. Swiftly, that got reverted by the person who had uploaded the previous SVG, claiming that the colours were incorrect. None of the existing flags appear to use the hex colours that are specified in both the English and Spanish articles.
Which can we conclude: that the hex colours specified in the articles are incorrect, or we need to perform some wholesale fixes of the flag imagery? Or perhaps some pseudo-state?
-- AtomCrusher 13:31, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hex colours 

message: The text of this articles states, in one place (as of the date and time I'm typing this) that the stones of bricks in the castles of Castille are joined together with a mortar, cement, or grout that is black in color. Yet those outlines don't appear to be black in at least some of the illustrations. They look like just a darker shade of yellow. Can someone please go through and recolor and make sure they're all black or, otherwise, add text that explains the variations and cite where and when some blazons say "masoned sable" and other's say something else?2600:1700:6759:B000:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 05:35, 13 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You can create an account and fix the images yourself if it bothers you. 98.248.84.55 (talk) 16:48, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: The text says castles are masoned sable but at least some of them in illustrations are not.

message: like do you see it if you look at the crown the dots are not connected so they have to be eyes to a skull please validate me 66.220.227.162 (talk) 18:18, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  there are skulls in the crown on the flag