Talk:Russian tradition of the Knights Hospitaller

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message: For concerned editors WP:SOURCE: "All material in Wikipedia articles must be attributable to a reliable published source." this mean, that unpublished materials in archive are not good for article.--Yopie (talk) 14:57, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources  

message: Stop posting the "Self Styled Order" tag to this article.  Only the false copies of the Russian Tradition of the Knights Hospitaller are self styled.  Emperor Paul was elected by the knights and was the Grand Master in fact.  In addition, the records that Rome gladly took money from the Russian knights is ample proof that the Russian Tradition was not self styled.  Stop with the tag already - you are making yourself look childish and foolish. Kasgan (talk) 00:29, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Attn Vandals

message: From the article:
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Judging by this article, the "Russian Imperial House" mentioned here is some kind of fringe organization, and not actually the imperial house of Russia. We should attribute it as "the self-styled Russian Imperial House" or something else that does not imply it has external recognition. We also can't repeat their POV about "fraud" and "childish games" in Wikipedia's own voice; it needs quotation marks.
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I do not see where the source supports this statement. KateWishing (talk) 21:40, 20 February 2015 (UTC
*Maria Vladimirovna, Grand Duchess of Russia is generally accepted pretendent to the Empire and she say about fraud and childish games.. And where you see, that Alliance accepted fringe Russian "brothers"? Ball is on your side. --Yopie (talk) 00:07, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Per WP:RS, you have the burden to provide a reliable source, not me (since I made no claim). Per WP:ASSERT, we cannot state opinions as facts. KateWishing (talk) 00:22, 21 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I never claimed that the Alliance recognized anyone. We need a source to comment on that either way. WP:BURDEN does not say you can insert a "negative fact" without a source supporting it; it says the opposite. You have also ignored the WP:ASSERT issues and inappropriate attribution of a fringe pretender organization as the "Official Statement from the Chancellery of the Head of the Russian Imperial House". KateWishing (talk) 14:06, 21 February 2015 (UTC)

text: FYI I restored the version prior to the addition of the block of text under discussion. It looks like the added content as well as the rewording are both being contested. Without opining on it myself, I'd suggest that per WP:BRD everybody hold off on re-adding either version before coming to some kind of consensus as to the wording here first. — Rhododendrites talk \\ 00:39, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV issues 

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