Talk:Cathedral floorplan

message: Firstly, I think this article is one of the most concise and clear explanations of a topic usually well beyond most non-architects or church historians and often rather dull.  I have a few remarks on minor details and feedback comments left by other readers.
Presently, St. Denis is, in fact, a cathedral with a bishop.  This is a recent development, however, and due to an administative need to subdivide a burgoning bishopric.  As most people know, the building was designed and supervised by an abbot and remained an abbey until the time of the French Revolution.  I highly recommend anyone visiting Paris to take a few hours and a quick train ride to visit St. Denis.  You won't find the crowds of Notre Dame there.
Concerning the absence of a transcept at Bourges.  My memory may fail here, but I recall that only the enormous choir was actually built before funds ran out.  Thus, the lack of a transcept and nave doesn't necessarily mean that these elements were not intended in the original, possibly cruciform, design.  At Salisbury (the present cathedral), as I recall, the sanctuary and some of the choir were largely completed and in use before the more western portions, but fortunately in this case, the rest was finished for us to admire.  There are other instances (e.g., Canterbury) where prolonged rebuilding of the nave forced church use into the eastern portions.  So although we often take for granted the familiar cross-shaped layout of a cathedral, the course of events sometimes required the buildings to be used with some flexibility.
Rich Mooney
Surely this article should be renamed. As has already been pointed out, these diagrams don't just apply to cathedrals or even to 'great' churches (many largish, but not huge, churches use this pattern). And in my experience, few non-cathedrals are referred to as cathedrals. Usually churches without a cathedra are only called cathedrals if they once did officially have the status. Generally a fairly inaccurate title. 'Church diagram' or 'Church design' would be better. -- Necrothesp 15:40, 23 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  cathedrals and abbeys 

message: Are these diagrams East-West reversed? Altars generally face east. - Nunh-huh 05:50, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I wish they were mapwise, with north at the top. In my paragraph shifting and minor rewrite I thought it was important to present the text in progression from the west end doors to the apse or chevet or whatever. It would be great to have further ground plans (even some cathedrals). Groundplan of St Peters would show that the elements remain, even in a non-gothic structure. Wetman 09:59, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: East-West dyslexia

message: When I went to Canterbury Cathedral I met a lady there who worked as the archivist and whose family had studied the cathedral for 3 generations.  She said that there was a lot of symbolism in the way cathedrals were laid out, right down to the mathematics of the positioning of each individual column and window.  That they represented things like the Trinity and the 12 disciples and so on.  She mentioned the Golden Ratio, but that was just the starting point for a lot more detailed spiritually based mathematic symbolism.  She explained meaning behind the layout at Canterbury in great detail, but now that I come to look up information on the type of thing that she was talking about.  There is nothing to be found on the web.  She did say it was something that architects are only just discovering now, as it had been forgotten for so long - in fact Canterbury's original layout had been changed when renevations were done in the 18th Century, ruining much of the symmetry.  But surely someone must know what she was talking about?  Is there anyone who would be qualified to expound on this issue on this page?  I think it would be appropriate and very interesting.  Amatire 12:19, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Deeper Meanings

message: It seems that the term "quire" is used to describe part of a church or catheral.  Within Wikipedia itself, the term is also used without definition; for example, York_Minster initial description has "The minster has [..] a Perpendicular Gothic Quire and [..]").  Here, the term "perpendicular gothic" is a link to the term's definition, but apparently the reader is expected to know what is a quire.
From my (very) limited searching with Google, it seems to be synonymous with "chior", but it would be nice if someone knowledgable would update this page with the correct definition.
FnordMan (talk) 17:07, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is a Quire ? 

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