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message: "Þá skreið Egill at leita Ölrúnar", word for word translated becomes "Then walked Egill to look Ölrúnar". The words "on his snowshoes" can be inferred from an earlier passage, but it's not what's written in the original. The words are informative, but there should be some kind of warning that they cannot be read directly from the text. BFG (talk) 22:33, 23 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation mismatch 

message: Kjárr appears in Völundarkviða, which if is considered Norse mythology. I'm out on a big limb here, but AFAICR, it's a common trait that German heroes have assumed mythological status in Norse mythology. BFG (talk) 14:28, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , most scholars consider Völundarkviða to be heroic legend actually - it's placement in the mythological section of the Edda is likely because Wayland takes on some half-mythical attributes. Compare Rudolf Simek discussing one of the valkyrie figures, Hervör alvitr:  ("Dictionary of Northern Mythology", p. 146) and on Hlaðguðr svanhvít  ("Dictionary of Northern Mythology", p. 151). As both only occur in Völundarkviða, it's obvious he doesn't consider it mythology, so that obviously includes Kjarr as well, who is based on a historical person - the hallmark of heroic legend. I can give more citations if you'd like.--Ermenrich (talk) 14:56, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't have access to the cited dictionary, but my main concern was that you had taken a one-sided Germanic perspective on this. You clearly demonstrate that this is not the case. Thanks for taking the time to explain this to me, that was informative. BFG (talk) 16:41, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It’s a fair concern: the Norse material has definitely undergone a greater synthesis with mythology than the English or German material. The fact that Simek includes a few figures that he says are heroic in his dictionary are proof enough of that.—Ermenrich (talk) 17:38, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: This separation of mythology and heroic legend is a bit artificial. They overlap, if there was ever clear a separation between the two begin with.--Berig (talk) 18:46, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mythological or hero