Wikipedia talk:Japan-related topics notice board/Apr-Jun

message: Hi! I am going through lists of articles that we do not have, and I found this place in the Yamaguchi Prefecture. It surprised me, because I thought we had most Japanese towns. Can anyone help with this? Thanks. Danny 11:56, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Tokuyama merged two years ago with other muncipalities to form Shunan city. Photojpn.org 13:33, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Tokuyama]] 

message: I ran across a reference to 礼文村 in the Esashi, Hokkaido (Soya) article which was romanicized (in the article) as ???.  I changed the ??? to a link to Rebun, Hokkaido, which I assume is the same place (town now instead of village), but I haven't been able to verify this.  Can anyone help?  Thanks. -- Rick Block 17:44, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There may be no direct relation between Rebun, Hokkaido and Rebun village which once existed in Esashi district. Rebun, Hokkaido is an isolated island in Japan Sea, while Esashi district is a part of Hokkaido mainland which faces on Okhotsk Sea. Pitan 18:51, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: Thanks.  I've changed the text in Esashi, Hokkaido (Soya) to indicate Rebun village and town may not be related. -- Rick Block 22:02, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Rebun village the same as Rebun town?

message: I was wondering if any Japanese Wikipedians ever organize any face-to-face meetings in Tokyo or elsewhere in Japan. If you do hold meetings, please invite me too. Otherwise, I'd like hold a friendly meeting in Tokyo. If you're interested, send me a note and tell me what days are best for you to meet. Photojpn.org 09:24, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There were some meetups in Tokyo. If you can read Japanese :ja:Wikipedia:オフラインミーティング would be helpful. If not, meetup.com can serve you. Or I recommend you to contact User:Suisui, one of active JA Wikipedians. --Aphaea* 03:00, 8 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Meet-up in Tokyo

message: I have recently done a bunch of changes and additions to the Kigo article. Although there are still a few more tweeks and formatting changes that I know I want to make, I think that it is close to being ready for submission to Peer review with the intent to then submit it as a Featured article candidate after the peer review. I would appreciate any comments, edits, etc. that anyone wants to make. Also, I am still looking for a few more good photos to illustrate some of the kigo in the article. BlankVerse ∅ 11:53, 4 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kigo 

message: A user is requesting Naruto (manga) be moved to Naruto, and the current contents of Naruto be moved to Naruto (disambiguation).  Please comment at talk:Naruto (manga). -- Rick Block 04:46, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Vote closed, no concensus for it is moved. Thank you for your participation. --Aphaea* 07:25, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naruto renaming 

message: I am trying to revive Wikipedia:Japanese Collaboration of the Week. If you are interest in expanding or newly submitting an article, please give a look. --Aphaea* 04:21, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese COTW 

message: I noticed today that the article for Jpop band Orange Range was a stub, so I went to add to it, translating from the Japanese Wikipedia. Essentially, I added little more than a list of the band members and their albums, but it being a band, I'm not really sure what else there is to say. 
Anyway, getting to the point. The article seemed to indicate that the band was accused of plagiarism in an interview a few years back. I may be reading/translating this wrong, of course, but there's a list of bands and songs at the bottom of the Japanese article that seems to be a list of which Orange Range songs are copied (plagiarized) from which other songs. I went and read the interview, and there really doesn't seem to be anything criminal or scandalous in it. The closest it comes to accusing the band of plagiarism is a section where the guitarist talks about imitating (drawing from) many styles of music.
Could someone look at this, and help me figure out what the story is, whether or not they're being accused of plagiarism, whether or not it's a big deal, etc. Thanks. LordAmeth 22:59, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  I think some of the plagarism accusations are plain silly.  However, it seems that there definetely were some issues.  Atsi Otani 05:52, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: One the subject of Orange Range and plagiarism, feel free to check this flash movie which pretty-much outlines the issue with that. It's Japanese, but I'm sure you can figure out what the point of it is. It basically plays Orange Range clips followed by songs by other artists from which Orange Range seems to have lifted the melody, rhythm, etc.
--Joshua Maciel 00:53, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  ORANGE RANGE 

message: Hi all - what English page should :ja:クルミ be linked to?
Currently it is at Walnut (the genus Juglans), but would it be better placed at Persian Walnut (Juglans regia; the photo on the page is of this species), or perhaps at Japanese Walnut (Juglans ailantifolia, the species of walnut native in Japan)? Unfortunately I can't read Japanese, so I don't know whether the Japanese page describes the genus as a whole, or just one species. - Thanks, MPF 12:48, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't read Japanese either, but the article is marked as a stub, and seems to be describing the genus as a whole.  I think Walnut is correct.  BTW - google (and perhaps others) will happily translate.  Translation for this page is available from google here.  -- Rick Block 14:06, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks; the article as translated by google seems a little confused, with most of it about Persian Walnut (wrongly cited as 'English' Walnut, a US-derived inaccuracy), but the reference to walnuts in Nagano will probably refer to Japanese Walnut. Anyone want to tidy it up? - MPF 14:30, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Where to link ja:&#12463;&#12523;&#12511; 

message: Japanese collaboration of the week is currently in Tie break. Osaka Dome and Shinshukyo. Tie break vote closes tomorrow. Your vote will be welcome! --Larus.r 04:23, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:JCOTW]] Tie break 

message: I suspect uncontroversial - a user has requested the disambiguation page Shouwa be moved to Showa.  Seems like folks from this board might want to comment on this proposed move, see Talk:Shouwa. -- Rick Block 14:37, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  move Shouwa to Showa 

message: Some articles have lots of photos --- Tokyo comes to mind. In addition to lots of photos, it has lots of supporting text. But some other articles have more photo than text --- Nikko is an example. I wonder if we should use photo galleries to organize the pictures? I tried an example in Meiji Shrine and am interested in opinions. Fg2 10:38, May 24, 2005 (UTC)
:: As long as an article has enough supporting text (like Tokyo does), I'd leave it how it is. But  like your idea. Next time I do something that involves a lot of pics, I'll use the gallery option, and see how it looks... LordAmeth 11:43, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo galleries in articles? 

message: Someone created an article, probably patent nonsense, with the title Late Hojo clan. It's the only contribution by an IP user, and has never been edited since its creation ten days ago. I'll take a first swipe at a real article; can anyone help? Fg2 05:24, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
::It's actually a valid historical clan, and an important distinction from the earlier Hojo clan. When Ise Shinkuro began to conquer lands and build up his power in the 15th century, he wanted his lineage to have a more illustrious name, and chose Hojo, after the line of regents of the Kamakura shogunate. The Late Hojo, sometimes known as the Odawara Hojo after their home castle of Odawara, were not related to the earlier Hojo clan.
I would not oppose a merge if it were suggested, but I think it is alright as is. I shall make a note for myself to expand upon this page. LordAmeth 20:15, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Help! [[Late Hojo clan]]

message: user:William McDuff has requested Matsuyama, Miyagi (Shida) be moved to Matsuyama, Miyagi (which is currently a redirect to Matsuyama, Ehime).  Please comment at Talk:Matsuyama, Miyagi (Shida). -- Rick Block 13:51, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  another uncontroversial move 

message: Some anonymous editor changed the dates on the Showa redirect page for the 正和 era, thinking it meant 昭和 period. I am changing it back to the proper dates, but I got a little confused along the way. Showa (era) says it ran from 1311 to 1312, but the following era Bumpo, starts in 1317. A quick Google leads me to lists that show 正和 as a period starting in 1312 and running into 1317. Checking the Wikipedia listed era's, I found ōchō and shōwa to be shifted one timeperiod, so I corrected it.
At least, I think I corrected it. Could someone confirm my edits are correct? I have only used these lists I ran into through Google, but they could be using the same erronous source for all I know:
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It seems to be correct now though. JeroenHoek 21:29, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your correction, Showa (in Kamakura period) started exactly in  1312 and ran into 1317. --Larus.r 02:40, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Sh&#333;wa era 

message: Japanese collaboration of the week is currently in a tie break again. Onmyodo and Aomori, Aomori. Tie break vote closes tomorrow, 0:00 (UTC). Your vote will be welcome! ----Larus.r 00:46, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:JCOTW]] tie break again 

message: The anon IP  has recently added a bunch of links to various Japanese-related articles. I've looked at several of them and although they are not for a commercial website, most of the linked webpages seem to be of fairly low usefulness and not necessarily that closely related to the article that it was linked from (for example, a link an essay of dining al fresco in Japan added to the Cuisine of Japan article. Could someone else please take a look and offer a second opinion before I go and delete all of this anon editor's recent additions. BlankVerse ∅ 05:17, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed some of the obvious ones.  Frankly, any addition by an anonymous IP address doesn't require a debate (IMHO). Davejenk1ns 05:53, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I often see good article edits by anons, but the percentage of garbage that gets added to the External link sections by anons is very high. There's one person who keeps adding the same very poor personal name definition website to ALL of the Wikipedia articles on names, including where the link definately doesn't belong. And then the amount of true commercial link spam seems on the increase lately as well. I was just wondering if I was overreacting to this group of links. BlankVerse ∅  08:51, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  link spam? 

message: :::::::An appeal for immediate help!
There has been a large edit war going on around the article currently titled Tsushima Islands ( Talkpage (Very Long)) And help is needed to put out the flames. I'm trying to mediate a vote and stabilize the article, as I have no stake in the matter living outside Boston, but I seem to have accidently triggered the latest series of edits (70+ in just three days) with an innocent edit sans looking at the talk before hand.
*The issue called on the table is simply whether the article should be 'Tsushima', 'Tsushima Islands', or 'Tsushima Island', with the first listed being a compromise suggested early in the ongoing 'Comments On the Move Proposal' (Section Heading). 
*I think the matter is starting to resolve itself, but there are at least two and perhaps three juveniles that would be benifit (i.e. — MAY Learn something about proper research and quotations with references!) by a strong vote one way or the other... and heck — it's Japans' Island, of which I am only a recent student. 
*English language references are totally conflicted on the matter as you can see in the discussion yourself.
*The english grammer in the article can not be settled until the plural/singular nature can be stabilized, though the recent input by your fellow multi-ligual 'Atsi Otani', especially two pictures, and very recent refinding of the text that I innocently transformed into blatant warfare in it's proper context of a professor making a tounge in cheek joke (which sentence was copied directly into the text sans quotes by one of the juveniles) has broken the log jam over the actual physical nature of the Isle proper. 
::(One interpretation implied the island had been sundered by a 2km wide channel, THAT was a misinterpretation/misreading of what which is to later evidence, in reality just a canal.) (But the Fur Flew Far Fast and Furiously for a while!)
*Please take some minutes to cast your vote, culturally it's your turf, if only intellectually!  These links should take you directly to the germane sections:
** Discussion on Move (Multi-part) 
**(The Actual Vote section )
**The Compromise Vote Discussion Section 
**The Compromise Vote Section 
Thanks in advance for putting on a Fireman's Hat for this matter, and perhaps any further involvement you may care to volunteer to keep the fire out!  If you Vote by Midnight 22 June (UTC) that should be in time. FrankB || TalktoMe 20:29, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  NOTICE OF VOTE ON NAME - Tsushima Island/Islands or '???'