Talk:Asiatic cheetah

message: How about all those lions and tigers who work in circuses?  I thought all felines can be tamed if they get human contact early enough in their lives. Durova 04:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are lions that have been raised by humans, the same goes for all big cats, but these are still dangerous and even more so when they grow up. The big cats will still possess behviour which is impossible to tame regardelss of the human contact they recieve. Unfortunately, other big cats raised by humans are unable to be controlled by their owners when they becomes adults and cannot be released into the wild since they did not grow up there and do not have the necessary survival skills. Often, these ones are put down. Hope that helps. Ben (talk) 20:29, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only big cat that can be tamed? 

message: I noted that the articles you have been working on have far too many external links.  There should be a minimal number of "important sites".  If there are articles etc. relevant to the article then they can be referenced in the text as notes.  A sea of external links is practically useless since the important ones are diluted. David D. (Talk) 21:13, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Atulsnischal, sounds like you are getting the right idea.  I'll help out with formatting as I see these come up on my watchlist. David D. (Talk) 04:34, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: External links [[Asiatic Cheetah]], [[Asiatic Lion]], [[Kuno Wildlife Sanctuary]], [[Asiatic Lion Reintroduction Project]], etc.

message: if they are used for the writing of the article then cite them in the approppriate place with the inline ref. David D. (Talk) 04:30, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Original references

message: it was use for hunt 
his names in arabic Al-Fahd Al-Arabi and Fahd Sayyad which mean  Cheetah hunter bedouin use this animal for hunt 
The bedouin lived in the past with the maximum conditions and The urgent need to live >> they training Cheetahs on hunt 
Picture of man from Shammar tribe with Asiatic Cheetah ( Fahd Sayyad) in 1925 in Arabian Peninsula 
http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/9127/49324324bo9.jpg
but this animal extinction Arabian Peninsula from 50 years now  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.132.141.185 (talk) 01:54, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asiatic Cheetah 

message: add this pic to the article
The picture was taken in 1925 of man from Shammar tribe with Asiatic Cheetah ( Fahd Sayyad or Fahd Alrabi)..bedouin use this animal for hunt. --Hisham ibn Oamr Alharbi 11:51, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Where did you find it? Funkynusayri 00:38, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Undone. The image is not appropriate as the taxobox image. In addition, it looks like a dead cheetah, not one used as a hunting companion. - UtherSRG (talk) 01:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  new pic 

message: So by changing the title of this topic and the subsequent removal of the dialog is your way of informing us you are unwilling to discuss any on the content you have inserted into mulitple articles? Your input would be welcome but not necessary. David D. (Talk) 18:29, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Listen I have Archived our previous conversation - it is in my talk page Archives , your edits are based on and motivated with WP:STALKING me on Wikipedia which you have been doing since the last year or so, outcome can not be healthy and I dont want to argue with you. Please do not go to my contributions page for following me from there to articles I have been working on, that is called stalking. Please dont get into ego clashes and personality clashes with people, just find articles randomly for contributing.
Hope it makes sense, also I did inform that I am busy with other stuff in life.
Best wishes, hope you will leave me alone.
Atulsnischal (talk) 21:25, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:STALKING]]

message: Iranian and Russian ecologists are planning a joint project designed to return to the wild the Caspian Tigers as well as Asiatic Cheetahs in the Central Asian region. These big cats had disappeared, the Asiatic Cheetah from Russia and Caspian Tiger from Iran, some half a century ago. Latest genetic studies have shown that the Russian or Amur Tiger is related and virtually identical to the extinct Caspian Tigers and hence will be used to repopulated the Caspian Tiger range in exchange for Asiatic Cheetahs. Iran, Russia Hope to Revive Extinct Big Cats Asiatiac Cheetah and Caspian Tiger; Source: Press TV; 09 january 2010; Payvand Iran NewsMitochondrial Phylogeography Illuminates the Origin of the Extinct Caspian Tiger and Its Relationship to the Amur Tiger
::this sources are wrong! the exchange was Persian leopard not Asiatic cheetah! please remove this section from this wiki page.
::here is some references:
Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siberian_tiger#Re-population_ideas
News:
http://iwpr.net/report-news/big-cat-swap-raises-questions
and from Kremlin website:
http://programmes.putin.kremlin.ru/en/tiger/news/18372
Persian.palas (talk) 12:25, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-population of Caspian Tiger Range with closely related Siberian / Amur Tiger in exchange for Asiatic Cheetah

message: Asiatic Cheetah Blog .
Thanks mrigthrishna (talk) 23:33, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Use the NEWS ARTICLES listed here to improve this article

message: There's a colour photo on commons but I'm not sure that it's an Asiatic one : 
Elfast (talk) 13:02, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like a copyright violation. FunkMonk (talk) 23:16, 20 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colour photo 

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message: In general, I never trust journalists reporting survey results about wildlife. Three recent examples:
*a Pakistani newspaper reported a dead cheetah in south-eastern Pakistan; the journo speculated that this animal must have come from the Thar desert in India, i.e. more than 200 km away!! But the photo displayed with this article showed a fishing cat; this photo was from the newspaper's archive.
*an Indian newspaper reported a fishing cat hit by a vehicle in north-western India and showed an archive photo of a cheetah.
*an Indian newspaper reported a leopard that had fallen into a well and was rescued by villagers; the vdo of the rescue operation showed a fishing cat.
Therefore, I suggest to use only peer-reviewed articles as reference, that are written by trustworthy wildlife biologists who know the area. For recent records of Asiatic cheetah in Iran, this would be foremost Iranian authors. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 11:52, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I see. I have to admit that what you said is true. Sometimes, journalist reports may not be valid sources, as someone said that there were only 2 female Asiatic cheetahs remaining considering the records of births of several Asiatic cheetah cubs born before -- such report was denied soon later, as there is no way that there are only 2 females left. The species is indeed on the rise. Perhaps, I was wrong for adding such references in the first place. My apologies. I should add valid sources from authors or wildlife biologists who has real knowledge of the subjects. In that case, I'd have to remove that reference though.--FierceJake754 (talk) 05:56, 1 February 2017 (UTC)

text: What about the rather plentiful news coverage in Iran about cheetahs being spotted in Khar Turan National Park going on now? Leo1pard (talk) 16:30, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm. I checked the report. It is pretty legit though. Why not?--FierceJake754 (talk) 20:13, 3 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  using newspaper articles as source 

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message: I found in a book Asiatic Cheetah as an extinct  species. Is it really extinct or Critically endangered??  Dipimani Saikia (talk) 03:26, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extinct?? 

message: Last day i found a news about a female with her 4 cubs, i published the link and then, the link vanished. And don't tell me that Youtube is not accepted, there are thousands if not millions YT links all around the wikis. And this was a ufficial news announced, not a fake claimed by someone without importance!
That's why i progressively quit wikipedia editing, too dumb censorship without a gram of common sense.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.11.3.98 (talk) 13:50, 14 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: wikipedians are always confirming their attitutes

message: https://www.oneindia.com/india/supreme-court-allows-introduction-of-african-cheetahs-in-india-3022601.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.33.5.73 (talk) 17:01, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Supreme Court allows introduction of African Cheetahs in India 

message: Thus
https://iranwire.com/en/features/6777 Zezen (talk) 19:39, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iran spy case and torture 

message: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-india-57313563  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ChilternGiant (talk • contribs) 19:03, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reintroduction 

message: I object to 's removal of the entire reintroduction section. Granted that the reintroduced subspecies is not A. j. venaticus; but a summary of Cheetah reintroduction in India is still very appropriate here. Possibly the section could be condensed some more. Also a reminder that this is a Good Article, and removing 5k of material had better be discussed beforehand. (And it would be nice if we could do this without mudslinging about  or grandiose (huh...) claims of expertise from having written part of an another article.) --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:30, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Elmidae that the removal of such a big chunk of text requires prior discussion ! – BhagyaMani (talk) 08:39, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm happy to add a summary of the efforts made to reintroduce the Asiatic cheetah from Iran in the 1970s and 1980s. But we can't have anything about the introduction of the Southeast African Cheetah, because it is being introduced in a number of other countries as well.  Fowler&fowler«Talk» 09:47, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: In other words, the SEAfrican cheetah introduction (not reintroduction) properly belongs to the Southeast African cheetah page, where it is described (with accompanying pictures) in the section Southeast_African_cheetah#Reintroduction_projects, subsection "Outside Africa." Fowler&fowler«Talk» 09:48, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I've now rewritten the section, sourcing it from Cheetah reintroduction in India, giving primacy to the plans for the reintroduction of the Asiatic cheetah which did not come to pass, and briefly describing the recent introduction of the African cheetahs and the scientific reaction to it. I believe it is significantly better than the incoherent account that had been in place, good article or not. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 10:16, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks - that looks like a nicely comprehensive section now to me. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 10:39, 28 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reintroduction section