Talk:Joan Beaufort, Queen of Scots

message: Mowens35 likes to get rid of royal titles throughout wikipedia for whatever reasons. or does he propose changing Masako, Crown Princess of Japan to Masako of Japan as well? just ridiculous... voting to keep the current name. cheers.. Antares911 16:25, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  keep it 

message: This page should be either Joan of Scotland, or Joan de Beaufort. She was not the "Queen of Scotland", there has never been such a thing. She was the Queen-consort of Scots, as is and was common usage. Five days, and I'll move it to the latter suggestion. Get yer gurns in!Brendandh 02:57, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Move

message: It need more about her regency. When was it ended, for example? --85.226.44.238 (talk) 18:52, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regency 

message: Under 'Queen of Scotland' there is this sentence: "As queen, she often pleaded with the king for those who might be executed." It is unclear if she was begging on behalf of those who might be executed or was begging the king to execute certain people.
If anyone has access to the source for this, I think it would be a nice addition.  
Whyhelloclarice (talk) 17:05, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion on this interesting detail 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. Though some evidence was provided to argue that the queen was the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC for this name, the evidence was highly contested, resulting in a narrow consensus that there's no primary topic here. (closed by non-admin page mover)  ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 16:28, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Support - Clear WP:PTOPIC as demonstrated by ngrams  and pageviews . estar8806 (talk) ★ 02:36, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not sure how you came to that conclusion.  But pageviews show the Countess of Westmorland consistently higher pageviews over time (usually double the number).  That would make Westmorland the primary topic. Walrasiad (talk) 08:02, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Alas, I did misread the pageviews. But ngrams still support the Queen of Scots as primarytopic, maybe not as clear-cut as I originally said, but the ngrams are sufficient for my liking. estar8806 (talk) ★ 17:00, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Your ngrams are dependent on very precise rather long terms, far too long to be able to derive any conclusions.  Figures like these are particular likely to be referred to by alternative names, like "Joan of Lancaster" or  simply "Joan of Westmorland", or "Queen Joan of Scotland", etc. I don't think those ngrams are informative at all, and certainly nowhere near enough to declare any of them a primary topic. Particularly when Westmorland dominates the pageviews, I suspect Westmorland probably shows up more in books as well (under other names). There's just not enough here. Walrasiad (talk) 18:59, 21 June 2023 (UTC)

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thread_title:  Requested move 6 June 2023