Talk:Viscera (wrestler)

message: It seems like every couple weeks this guy is taking off. Now he's been gone for several weeks and missed Wrestlemania. Some say it's to lose weight while others say he's sick. Where is he can anyone answer this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.3.169.94 (talk) 16:56, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not a forum Gavyn Sykes (talk) 20:23, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah but don't we need to get as source for it? SexySeaSquid 20:28, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time Off  

message: That means he has been fired along with:
Nunzio
Shannon Moore
Domino
James Curtis (KC James)
Refere Nick Patrick  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.141.176.29 (talk) 21:33, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: WWE has realeased him today Friday, August 8, 2008

message: What happened to Big Daddy V in the past couple of months? Magik Ninja 47 (talk) 02:45, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He was given time off to lose weight and just got released yesterday. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 02:57, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  MIA? 

message: I'm not familiar with this person and I didn't see it mentioned in the article so I don't know if this is really a legitimate verifiable nickname or just a joke. Although it is humorous, this person probably wouldn't condone its use. Actually, at first I thought it was the title of a porno movie (and it probably is). Anyways, I'm probably going to put up a request at Wikipedia:RfD for deletion, unless someone objects and can verify this nickname? -- OlEnglish (Talk) 22:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It sure seems like a joke. He has never used that name, nor do I imagine that people would use it while searching for him. I would say it could be speedily deleted under criterion g-10 (attack page). GaryColemanFan (talk) 22:35, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  -- OlEnglish (Talk) 22:42, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Big Titty V]] redirects here (?)

message: When will there be a page for the new upcoming movie The Legend of Awesomest Maximus?  How would I find out what character he is playing as well? Danny Boy 420 (talk) 21:39, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Nelson in a movie?

message: I saw him on some minor promotion's TV show once, under the name the Wall (not to be confused with the deceased WCW wrestler who went by that name). I think he was aligned with a tag team called the Storm Troopers, with a German gimmick.76.226.142.85 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 20:59, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Wall 

message: I see in the infobox that it says he was born in Brampton, Ontario.  But the reference of Online World of Wrestling says nothing of him being born in Brampton.  Can someone confirm where he was actually born?  Brampton doesn't seem right.  Mr. C.C.Hey yo!I didn't do it! 23:07, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Born 

message: Has not his height and weihgt changed any since he left WWE? RoyalRumbleMan (talk) 18:56, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Got a source its changed?--SteamIron 18:59, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nelson's real height and weight? 

message: I guess I missed the above discussion, but let's review here. Both oppositions make sense, and they are fair arguments to oppose moving it to Big Daddy V, but there has yet to be a good reason to actually keep it at "Nelson Frazier, Jr.". Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:BIRTHNAME, his real name isn't a correct substitute for the most common name. Obviously, Mr. Frazier has a few common names (Viscera, Mabel, King Mabel, Daddy V, Big Daddy V), but only one can be the most common. We should be having the discussion of "which name is more common?", because we all know it's definitely not "Nelson Frazier, Jr." Feedback ☎ 14:43, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:BIRTHNAME governs the lead, not the title, and so is largely irrelevant here. WP:COMMONNAME states that: "When there is no single obvious term that is obviously the most frequently used for the topic, as used by a significant majority of reliable English language sources, editors should reach a consensus as to which title is best by considering [WP:NAMINGCRITERIA]," which in turn states that: "For most topics, there is a simple and obvious title ... However, in some cases the choice is not so obvious. It may be necessary to favor one or more of these goals over the others. This is done by consensus"(my emphasis). In this instance, therefore, it seems necessary to achieve consensus for the article title rather than relying on any given guideline. The low participation in the above RM discussion isn't sufficient to demonstrate such a consensus - I would suggest that a more appropriate place to raise this issue, in order to get more eyes on the subject, would be Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Professional wrestling, rather than another move request here. Yunshui 雲‍水 14:54, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

text: He's a tricky one. Mabel and Viscera are pretty much tied, in my opinion. He's wrestled longer as Viscera (14 years, off and on) than as Mabel (five), but as Mabel he was the King (and briefly a tag champ), while Viscera was more of a midcard lackey. Viscera would likely get more Google hits, since the Internet was much hotter in that era, but Mabel has more historical significance. Also keep in mind that Viscera is (in story) an alter-ego of Mabel, not just a new gimmick. like how Batman is Bruce Wayne. So even when he's Viscera, he's still officially Mabel, just under The Undertaker's spell. But when he was Mabel, Viscera didn't exist at all. Not sure how to weigh all that. Which is why I'm leaning toward Nelson Frazier, Jr. InedibleHulk (talk) 17:25, 6 February 2013 (UTC)

text: Just leave it at Nelson Frazier, Jr.. Like Ed Leslie (aka Brutus Beefcake, Zodiac, The Disciple, Bootyman, Brother Bruti, etc), he is definitely not primarily known by his given name, but he's been well known by a variety of names. But unlike Ed Leslie, who still occasionally competes or makes appearances under the Brutus name, it seems that Frazier currently uses his older names interchangeably in addition to some different names, so we should just default to his given name. --Jtalledo (talk) 17:33, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to vote for Big Daddy V. It's the 1 WWE.com uses. AARDJ (talk) 18:44, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: if we can't choose the common name (he was king of the ring as mabel, competed a lot of years as viscera and his last name in wwe vas big daddy v) i think that the better choice is nelson frazier, jr.--HHH Pedrigree (talk) 20:41, 6 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: He was Mabel for three years and Viscara for a combined seven, plus Viscera is during a time with much higher ratings and thus viewers. The only drawback is that he was less highly featured for a lot of those seven years but I still think if you're going with a ring name, Viscera would be it. Tony2Times (talk) 07:41, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Mabel lasted from June 1993 to January 1999. Viscera "returned" several times in the Indies, after he became Big Daddy V. Here's a timeline. InedibleHulk (talk) 08:24, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Above discussion 

message: per WP:RS, do not add anything regarding this subjects death unless it is reported by a reliable source.  These are sources that are considered reliable for professional wrestling related articles.LM2000 (talk) 05:01, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Welp, that's settled.LM2000 (talk) 05:36, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: RIP Viscera. Look up his match vs Kane at Backlash 2005. starship.paint (talk | ctrb) 12:14, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death 

message: Nelson Fraizer, Jr.
American professional wrestler who has recently died.
Submit this link to references to confirm his passing by virtue of his former employer, WWE.
http://www.wwe.com/inside/big-daddy-v-passes-26182717
71.88.217.116 (talk) 12:35, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: So you just want your link added? — Wyliepedia 12:57, 19 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 19 February 2014 

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