Talk:Rat City Roller Derby

message: This is similar to the comment I made on Talk:Minnesota RollerGirls, which was:
"How can you be an LLC and a not for profit at the same time? I think it's probably a mistake on the page that they are not for profit. Just because an organization isn't making a profit or isn't making much of a profit, or even donates all of their profits to charity, doesn't make them a 501(c) organization. Fredsmith2 00:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a good point and I will start to look into this.  So far I have not found any reference to one of the IRS's code 501 exemptions.  The text I put into the "Business structure" section was intentionally ambiguous, stating that they "function as a non-profit."  And that the skaters are not paid.  As near as I can tell, it is a business structure without profits, and with a defining purpose that is not profit oriented, rather than a charity organization per-se.  I agree that the charter would be a good reference to have, and will see if I can find information about that.~~ Michael J Swassing 14:56, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  Wording with non-profits can get sticky, and the IRS doesn't like it at all when a for-profit corporation claims to be or to control a non-profit corporation.  It sounds like it would be better to remove the non-profit wording, and talk about how skaters don't get paid, and how they in fact pay dues, how they do it for the love of the sport, how the owners of the LLC plan on continuing indefinately even though they may never generate a profit, how they plan on donating future profits to charity, how the skaters contribute a lot of time to various charities, how they raise money for non-profits, etc.  You could say any of those and be okay. Fredsmith2
Your point is valid, I've removed that statement, and will go looking in the source materials for something along the lines of your suggestions which can be backed up with a citation.~~ Michael J Swassing 14:47, 6 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Updated the filing status to non-profit and added the WA state biz registration link pointing to that. Seattleretroguy (talk) 19:50, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove non-profit reference? 

message: My opinion is that people should be referenced by their derby names, mainly, because that's how they're referenced from within roller derby.
I think that their real names should only be disclosed in these articles if there are a lot of news articles that reference the person by name.
So, my recommendation is to change: 
Jessica Bloom, who skates under the pseudonym "Holly Knockers" for the Socket Wenches, is the owner of Northwest Bloom Ecological Landscape Design, and is also the president of the Coalition of Organic Landscapers. 
to something like:
Holly Knockers, skater number 4 for the Sockit Wenches, is also Jessica Bloom who is the owner of Northwest Bloom Ecological Landscape Design and the president of the Coalition of Organic Landscapers.
But, with this example, I'd probably remove the information about what Holly Knockers does in her spare time, because it doesn't seem to be heavily referenced in relation to roller derby.  Like, if there were a number of newspaper articles that highlighted her whole life, tying it into roller derby, I think that would be different.
So, I'd probably change the section to just:
Holly Knockers is skater number 4 for the Sockit Wenches.
I guess I'm just worried that some derby girls may want to preserve some anonymity about their personal lives, especially since they haven't reached full celebrity status yet, and I think that the articles should be respectful to that.  My opinion is that all WFTDA teams are probably notable, but there are probably only a few individual skaters who are currently notable.  This section, WP:LIVING#People_who_are_relatively_unknown, kind of talks about that.
Fredsmith2 19:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The standard for notability of persons included within an article is lower than the standard for notability of persons to have an independant article about them.  The inclusion of the names of persons who are cited in news accounts as participants seems reasonable.  And because roller derby is an amature sport, it seems to add interest to the article, and dispell stereotypical assumptions, to have some information about their day jobs and notable other activities.  It seems more encyclopedic to list participants by their real names rather then the charactors that they portray for sport, but to include that information about them in the item. Participants in roller derby who seek anonymity will probably not be giving their real names and day jobs or notable other activities to newspaper reporters, documentary film makers, or radio interviewers.  There is more information about other participants available in published reports, but there is a reasonable concern about whether the list should be expanded for completeness or limited by usefulness, interest, and verifiability of the information.198.187.135.179 19:20, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't mean for that to be a sock-puppet, I was just at the library when I wrote the comments above, in response.  One more thing, any rollergirl who wants info about her removed here, even though it is cited from a previously published source, will have no difficulty in removing or asking to keep it off. - Michael J Swassing (talk) 02:40, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Derby names opinion 

message: I need to update the page with info from the 2008 season and the 2008 Rust Riot. Also I need to expand on the announcers and the Lightning Fist of Science --8bitJake (talk) 23:10, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  2008 Season and the Rust Riot 

message: I need to write up a section on the league's mascots and post some photos. I have some creative commons licensed photos I took at the last bout that would be great for this article. --8bitJake (talk) 18:13, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  mascots and photos 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with File:Sbux logo pre 1987.jpg

message: I think a sentence or two about the kids' league that exists in Seattle. Because of WFTDA's 18+ rules, it's not part of Rat City Rollergirls, it's a separate organization.
In addition, JFTDA has renamed itself to JRDA (Junior Roller Derby Association).
Unless it can be established that the junior league is part of Rat City Rollergirls, does their support of the children's league merit more than a sentence or two? TimBRoy (talk) 18:03, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Devil's advocate: Why so much detail on the independent kids' league? 

message: Need photos of an actual event. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 19:31, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos requested

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