Talk:Ashkan Dejagah

message: Trivia: he is the first iranian whos invited to National iranian team with visible tattoo.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 223.27.129.165 (talk) 11:07, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Tattoo

message: http://www.persianfootball.com/forums/showthread.php?108329-Ashkan-Dejagah-Fulham-FC-2013-14 --RidiQLus (talk) 09:44, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Forums/blogs are not a form of sourcing. Murry1975 (talk) 09:46, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  See WP:UGC, internet forums are not considered reliable sources. GiantSnowman 09:47, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Fulham fan thread

message: Dejagah's charity event with the Shooting Star Children's Hospice:
:http://www.persianfootball.com/forums/showthread.php?108329-Ashkan-Dejagah-Fulham-FC-2013-14&p=2112460&viewfull=1#post2112460 --RidiQLus (talk) 11:32, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Read the info above? Not a reliable source QED237 (talk) 11:51, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Charity

message: Should Dejagah's nickname, Ash, be noted somewhere in the main article? Kind of like Cristiano Ronaldo's known as section in the intro. --RidiQLus (talk) 12:23, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I cant find a nickname on Ronaldo's page. Do you mean his short common name as opposed to his full Portogeuse style name? Its not the same. Also anything added including nickname needs a reference for being such and should be done in a way that doesnt apply to much wieght to something so minor. Murry1975 (talk) 12:41, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The forum link above provides information on his nickname--RidiQLus (talk) 21:46, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: An Internet forum is NOT a reliable source. JMHamo (talk) 21:48, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Nickname

message: Our guideline on ledes in bios, WP:OPENPARA, states: "The opening paragraph should have: ... In most modern-day cases ... the country of which the person is a citizen, national or permanent resident..." (emphasis added)
Editors keep on deleting the citizenship of a person from a blp lede here. Also here and here. 
The deleters claim that the guideline WP:OPENPARA, which calls for reflecting citizenship -- is trumped by the soccer wikiproject (the subject plays soccer), which they say calls for not reflecting citizenship here. (The deleters also have some other claims, such as that reflecting that he is a dual German citizen in the lede is anti-Iranian; he only wanted to continue to reflect that the person was Iranian).
Another editor supported inclusion of citizenship in the lede, but he was also deleted. The citizenship statement is also backed by a very high level RS.  
Guidelines control such matters.  Not individual wikiprojects. And, citizenship is especially notable for a lede for athletes -- as it drives what countries the person can play for. And other sports include citizenship in ledes (as does the rest of the Project, following the guideline).--Epeefleche (talk) 22:24, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion, I think it should just be Iranian. Not German-Iranian or Iranian with German citizenship or whatever. Also, I was referring to the wording of your overall 'International career - Germany' section sounding anti-Iranian.--RidiQLus (talk) 23:33, 15 March 2014 (UTC)

text: Agree with Sroc, who is quite right.  As most of the discussion is at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Biographies#Deletions of citizenship from lede, let's continue it there.--Epeefleche (talk) 01:18, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good--RidiQLus (talk) 01:30, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletions of citizenship from lede, contra our guideline 

message: *"Dejagah was born in Tehran, Iran, and moved to Berlin, Germany at the age of one." 
:→ "Dejagah was born in Tehran, Iran, and moved to Berlin, Germany at the age of one."
*"Dejagah resides in London, England with his wife and daughter."
:→ "Dejagah resides in London, England with his wife and daughter."
Insert a comma after "Germany" and "England", per MOS:COMMA:
In geographical references that include multiple levels of subordinate divisions (e.g., city, state/province, country), a comma separates each element and follows the last element (unless followed by other punctuation).
—sroc 💬 06:06, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Done — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 10:10, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected edit request on 17 March 2014 (commas after multi-level geographical references) 

message: Is Ashkan Dejagah a muslim. Joey Whittacker (talk)   — Preceding undated comment added 17:27, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is he muslim??? 

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