Talk:Dirk Kuyt

message: Here is a source regarding the transfer fee. Dutch newspaper "De Telegraaf" ("De" is "The" in English). De Telegraaf is convinced that Liverpool HAVE paid Feyenoord 18 million euros, which IS 12.2 million pounds. 
The article also states that Kuyt will earn 1.7 million euros a year in a four-year deal. It should be in the region 25,000 pounds a week. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dutchlad1985 (talk • contribs) 13:56, 17 August 2006
:That's great and all, but neither Feyenoord nor Liverpool have told us the actual fee. None of the British press quote such a high transfer figure, with the local Liverpool press and some national press quoting a fee as low as £9 million. I think under the circumstances it is correct to quote both fees in the article, as we have no way of knowing which (if either) is correct. aLii 14:12, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Transfer fee according to Dutch media 

message: http://www.sportnetwork.net/boards/read/s70.php?f=71&i=565483&t=565483&sid=70 suggests that the quotes about Newcastle being Kuyt's "dream move" were made up, and then picked up by a vast number of news outlets. I suppose it's somewhat of a verifiability grey area, as the sites that are apparently wrong are more credible than the one that is apparently right. Thoughts? KeithD 17:01, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The way I see it is that the quotes in the article here are from May. Apparently on 13th August there was an article by "Jan Hattinga"  — this was the joke article. So in my eyes the quotes already in this article still stand. aLii 19:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've now rewritten the whole transfer section, and removed the Newcastle quote, as it's no longer needed. aLii 14:45, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newcastle 'dream' quotes 

message: I'm currently working on a table of Kuyt's goals/games record and I'm finding it difficult to find details on how many games he's actually played etc..
For instance; I've realised that the Dutch Eredivise has extensive end of season play-offs, and this link leads me to believe that the numbers on this page (33/22), and some  others could well be wrong because they aren't including them. So it would seem that Kuyt actually scored 24 in 35 games last season. 
Another problem is that I can't find any statistics about his participation in the KNVB Cup - he must have played some games?! Anyone know of some sources for this kind of info? aLii 22:09, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Cup matches are not to be included anyways (since not every club plays the same amount of mathes in the cup system). The domestic league records seems to be ok. Try . Intangible 22:27, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Specifically . jaco♫plane 22:32, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually it's ok. The play-offs have only existed for the past season - I'll put those games seperately under others. rsssf.com has some useful info on the cup - it has all the goals, but not the number of games... I'll check your link out, cheers, aLii 22:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Goalscoring Statistics

message: The article states 'It is widely expected that Dirk Kuyt will leave Liverpool in the summer of 2008 as his first choice opportunities have diminished since the arrival of Fernando Torres.'
I feel that should be sourced. I'm not convinced that he his 'widely' expected to leave. I also don't think that we should be indulging in conjecture, as there haven't been any reports in the media suggesting that this is true. 
Also, Kuyt doesn't even play in the same position as Torres anymore, and 'first choice opportunities' haven't been limited for him thus far - he appeared in 41 matches last season.Arae (talk) 11:55, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is exactly why we have to be so careful reporting transfer speculation. Because, lo and behold, he didn't go. --Ged UK (talk) 13:42, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leaving Liverpool? 

message: The name of the club is commonly referred to as "FC Utrecht" not simply "Utrecht". I made a comparison at Grant Alpaugh's talk page describing an analogy with FC Barcelona. Here are the official websites discussing their clubs' respective histories. FC Utrecht and FC Barcelona. I gave a reasoned argument, someone said nothing and pressed "undo". Can we either discuss this issue more (with reference to sources) or stop playing undo merry-go-round, please. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 02:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As much as we have a desire for everything to be standardised, it doesn't always work like that in the real world. I don't know much about European clubs, but I can think of a couple in England where you simply couldn't drop it: AFC Wimbledon and FC United. Beve (talk) 02:18, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, i looked at the FC Utrecht article, and the second-reference form of the name there is still "FC Utrecht". If it's not shortened in the article about the club, there's no need to shorten it anywhere else. —C.Fred (talk) 02:27, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  FC Utrecht 

message: I feel that the heading "International career" is misleading in this and other articles concerning football soccer. I presume this is British English usage, perhaps also common in all Europe, but I think the correct terminology should be "Career with National team".
I interpret "international" simply as playing outside his country of origin, whether that is with his national team or not. Most European clubs are fairly international in this sense, they are always playing international, Europe-wide cups.
Perhaps the equivalence of "International career" with "National team" is fairly common in Britain, but it is not precise, and should be corrected.---189.250.200.1 (talk) 14:36, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "International career" is misleading 

message: This whole paragraph seems very unacademic. Unrivaled lungs? Covering every blade of grass? Hardly written objectively!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.37.127 (talk) 23:42, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style of Play 

message: Due to the recent dust-up, with two editors disagreeing on what style to use in formatting the table (whether just one dash spanning multiple rows, or each row having its own dash), I am curious where the Manual of Style for such things is kept.
Thanks, and cheers! Jsharpminor (talk) 05:39, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  MoS? 

message: You will see the confusion if you read the article, really... KARA (talk) 04:00, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fenerbahçe or Feyenoord? 

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