Talk:Armenian Ground Forces

message: I'm currently working on a project to create graphics of the structure of the most important Armies. i.e. French Army; German Army; Italian Army I also want to make a graphic of the structure of the Armenian Army, but the information at this point is not sufficient, as there is no information how the units are structured (i.e. which Regiments/Batallions belong to which Command, what type of units there are;…) Does anyone have this information- and also the Regiments/Battalions names and/or numbers and where they are based?
Thanks
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How do we know your not a spy? Vartanm 08:56, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Graphic of the Army Structure

message: If you google T-72, on the first page you get a result at  the bottom with the title T-72 Main Battle Tank 1974-93 - Page 41 - Google Books Result with the text are located in the Caucasus region in Armenia (246), Georgia (251) and Azerbaijan (314). However the link is broken. Does anyone know where a pdf of the book can be found so this can be investigated? The book also seems to be buyable on ebooks and amazon.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Achemish (talk • contribs) 23:08, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: T-72

message: I'd want to see a citation for pretty weaponry with something like the T-90. To the best of my knowledge, the Armenian Army's mainstay MBT is the T-72, if not the newer T-80s, otherwise that stat goes.--MarshallBagramyan 00:15, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I sent a message to the user who posted it as well to see if he has a source for it. It's cool news if Armenia's going to buy. - Fedayee 00:17, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: T-90s

message: 10,357, including 30,634 conscripts - Can someone explain this phrase ?
What is the size of the Armenian army ?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMightyGeneral (talk • contribs) 00:03, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  size 

message: I edited the number of BMP-2s because the source, which is a PDF file, states that. Other PDF files I have screencapped, have stated that Armenia modernized 100 IFVs/APCs. (UPDATE: From News sources such as razmdotinfo, I have learned that it was most likely a *modernization* of 100 or 50 BMP-2s, and not an actual purchase of new units. Would we be able to update the side note for the BMPs? I have another source that does state that Armenia recieved 110 IFVs. This would correspond with the possible modernization listed in the PDF. Could we possibly do an update for the number of BMPs as well?)
Page 17 of source 22.This source is used throughout the page. I simply edited the number, assuming  that it was edited in 2012, to the most recent figure. It was returned back to 55 for some reason. It looks like the person who made the edit, did not read the PDF. 
(Melting Pot of Friendship (talk) 01:04, 26 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no objections - be bold, and feel free to add the material as a side note in the right column with the requisite sources. We can tweak anything that might require it. --Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 17:55, 26 September 2014 (UTC)

text: I generally do not object to your edits, but I think it would help to be a little cautious when it comes to the sources. For example, you cite the RFE/RL article to back up the statement that 33 T-72s have been moved to the NKR army, whereas the article does not specify the tank type. I have no doubt in my mind that the tanks it is referring to are T-72s (and not T-80s or T-90s), but lacking a more clearer reference, we can't write it as such without definite proof. Ditto for the BMP-2s in storage - I can't seem to find the reference in the source (which certainly is not in Russian as is stated in the article) - and making haphazard guesses on the armament of the BTR-70s. Unless otherwise noted, those statements need to be either revised or removed.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 17:25, 30 September 2014 (UTC)

text: I think that may be more acceptable but I wonder if those BTR-70s belong to the Ministry of the Interior/Ministry of National Security and Internal Affairs, which has its own separate article under Armenian Border Guard, and not the Army per se. Because the first photo is from the martial laws days in March 2008, although there were a considerable number of BMP-1s on the street that day too, indicating army presence...--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 18:12, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

text: That's true as well. I wish we had more detailed sources, but this is what we've got to work with. The only other thing I can think of is visiting YouTube or seeing if any footage exists of the parade, where the announcers usually identified the name of the participating units.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 18:03, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

text: Yeah, unfortunately it doesn't appear on YouTube either. I had a videotape recording of it from a long time ago, but that's unfortunately missing and nowhere to be found. As regarding the uploading of those photos - if I am not mistaken, I believe there are some copyright issues to be resolved with material from the Republic of Armenia. We actually had a good collection of high-quality photos of BRDM-2s and armored vehicles from the 2006 parade but they were all removed some time ago because of issues with the copyright. These Chinese-made knockoffs of the Nissan Titan pickup trucks should also be mentioned in the article. They're very widely used in the Armenian Army.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 22:14, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

text: I wish I could. I could have sworn that they were of all Chinese make, but I am having some difficulty finding some sources and even Wikipedia doesn't include any similar vehicles in the entries on the PLA. The military parade announcers stated they're used for reconnaissance. Regarding a section on special forces, if you find any sources, which have been particularly difficult to come by (maybe the defense ministry websites might have something), I would not mind its inclusion.--Marshal Bagramyan (talk) 20:29, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  BMP-2 and armstrade.org source 

message: I've converted most of the equipment section of the page into different tables, but I have realized the article is too long. Could this be moved to a separate equipment page like many other articles like it?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Retaurn (talk • contribs) 03:59, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have reverted your edits because part of it was unsourced inflation of numbers and most of it was about planned/alleged future purchases from Russia, and we don't add equipment until reliable sources say it has been delivered. Thomas.W  talk 07:16, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tables 

message: It seems as if somebody has copied and pasted most of the tables with slight adjustments onto the Armenian Armed Forces article, along with organizing it according to the branches. I like this idea, as Air Defense is a separate branch and its equipment chart has no place on the Army's article.
However, I do believe it is necessary to solve the issue of having duplicate tables on two pages regarding the exact same thing. Would an equipment article be needed, or shall we just delete the tables on one of the pages? - This has also been posted on the Armed Forces article's talk page Retaurn (talk) 07:36, 5 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tables and a new wiki article 

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