Talk:The Strangers (2008 film)

message: the previous version of the plot session was a description of events almost scene by scene. It was needing to be cleaned (and in fact, there is a banner calling for such). I replaced with a very simple plot summary. Add more information if needed. Kosmonauta (talk) 06:15, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot 

message: This article has had its infobox tag removed by a cleanup using AWB.
Any concerns please leave me a message at my talk page. RWardy 17:48, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of "needs infoboxbjbjghfhjbiguyvubvfzsr" tag 

message: The real story:
The events actually happened in the Czech Republican area or Romania. A French movie was released in 2006 called "Them" which I'm guessing Bertino saw and decided to redo the movie as his own. You can find the movie at Hollywood video and it explains what happened.
Actually, this film has nothing to do with "ils" (the french film).  Bertino wrote this movie years ago (2004) (http://www.killermovies.com/s/strangers/articles/4623.html), and ils came out in 2006 (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0465203/).  and also, the movie has been passed around since because they couldn't find a director.  eventually, rogue went back to bertino and asked him to do it(http://www.moviesonline.ca/movienews_12591.html).  the movie was supposed to come out last summer, but got postponed to fall 2007, and then again to this summer.  and according to the interview, he was inspired by manson's rampage.  And since the movie was written well-before february 11, 2005 and the credits explain that the events in the movie are fictional and any resemblances to any persons living or dead, etc, are completely coincidental, probably just took an actual event and altered it to make his movie.72.49.19.163 (talk) 05:43, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed -- but I assume that since the movie claims to take place in 2005, the real events took place several years or more earlier? Aristophanes68 (talk) 16:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not finding any news coverage of any events involving "Kristen McKay" or "James Hoyt" and am editing the introduction to reflect that they are fictional characters.  If I'm incorrect, and they really did exist, please cite a source. Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 14:47, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, it's possible any news coverage of the "true event" has been buried under movie buzz, but it's also possible that this is a marketing hoax. I'm not deleting the "true events" claim yet, but the claim is dubious and needs to be verified by a reliable source. Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 15:00, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  True Events? 

message: The space in the article where it says where it was filmed is a blank, a comma, and then "USA". Where was it filmed? Obviously somebody dropped the ball on this. Come on, people. --Ragemanchoo (talk) 09:20, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Filmed where???

message: guys on the main page of the "the strangers" wiki page, there was info about the keddie cabin murders being the basis of the film's story. since the keddie cabin murders were about the "sharp's," i knew the names didn't match, as the movie's main characters were the "Hoyt's." I edited the page to correct this error, but my edit was deleted, probably to further promote the viral marketing campaign. They were working against me! as I had been unknowingly working against them. Well, it was all good and fun. Still, I might have known about this hoax earlier if I had just taken one more step and tried to make an account in the keddie cabin website and tried to post threads or whatever in the forum. alright thats about it, just had to express mah ingeniusness. yes.
edit : guys they changed it again to it being based on the keddie cabin murders  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.218.115 (talk) 05:46, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Should we ask for page protection? Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 03:53, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

text: From all that I've read, this movie is "based on" true events, the most commonly cited being the Keddie Cabin Murders. Given that all the media I've read on those murders reflects that they are still unsolved, "based on" doesn't mean that this is a faithful reflection of what happened in that specific event (especially given that none of the victims survived to tell the tale, and that the perpetrators are still at large), but simply that the writers were inspired by that story and did their own interpretation of what *might* have happened ... and then also changed the names of the characters to avoid anyone being confused into thinking this was intended to be an accurate portrayal of a specific event.  I've also seen sources that suggest the Sharon Tate murders by the Manson Family may have provided some inspiration as well, in that the police theory of the Keddie Cabin Murders is that is was drug related, whereas this movie reflects the perpetrators doing it for the thrill of the torment, a la the Manson Family. Unfortunately, I don't think there are any rules governing just how much material has to be drawn from specific real events for a movie or TV producer to be able to say the project is "based on" true events; they really can be this far removed and still technically be "based on". Nolefan32 (talk) 13:46, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

text: The Keddie Cabin Murders (1980s) did happen. Or at least there are news stories about them in realiable sources like The San Francisco Gate that predate this movie (one that has been referenced from 2001). Whether this movie did or did not use that event as a template, that's not been solidified - but reports of those murders that clearly predate this movie show that they were not created as a means of promoting this film. Nolefan32 (talk) 20:58, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

text: The Keddie Murders And yes, the film is based on the murders, as well as the director's childhood experience with the burglars knocking on doors. --24.20.160.178 (talk) 04:51, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Keddie murders]]

message: Another song that appeared in the movie was "Mama Tried" by Merle Haggard.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DimitriX (talk • contribs) 22:15, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Music

message: Why are the boys in the plot description referred to as Mormon?  Is there some significance to this?
I haven't watched it, and it just looks odd in the description.
Also, it doesn't say why the boy is even there.  It's like the plot description is missing large chunks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr. Corgi (talk • contribs) 07:37, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They can feel free to have preferences, but they are Christian. If I say to you that I prefer not to be called a human, it doesn't make me non-human. Gregory.currie (talk) 07:54, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mormon boys? 

message: can someone please take down that crap about the killers being a family, that's just something some moron on IMDb said and only like 4 people agreed with him.  There is no evidence to support it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wvsax27 (talk • contribs) 14:39, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a Family 

message: This is my first time adding to wikipedia so I'm hoping that I'm doing this correctly.  If not, apologies all around.
Found an interview with Bertino written by Jeremy Smith from Chud.com.  In the interview, Bertino talks about (among other things) some of his inspirations for the film, including an incident from his childhood.  Here is the link:
http://chud.com/articles/articles/14888/1/EXCLUSIVE-INTERVIEW-BRYAN-BERTINO-THE-STRANGERS/Page1.html
Here is a quote:
"Once, me and my sister were left alone, and a group of men walked down the street and knocked on each door; anybody who wasn't home, they broke into their house. My little sister answered the door when they knocked, and we didn't find out until the next day - when cops were out in the neighborhood - what had happened. So I thought about the idea: what if Carrie hadn't gone to the door?"
In general, he talks a bit about all of the things that added up to inspiring the film.
The quote from the wikipedia article about the incident from his childhood is misleading but has some truth to it.  It should be reworded so that it reflects the passage above.
Kmanganello (talk) 06:14, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation for the inspiration 

message: Did anyone else notice that James's tie tends to move around a lot? For instance, James bandages Kristen's hand in one scene, yet in the very next he's seen striding outside with his tie flapping in the wind around his neck, only to disappear again when he's inside the car. This probably isn't encyclopedia-relevant, but it's interesting nonetheless.
Falquaddoomi (talk) 18:08, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing Mistakes 

message: Not really a big deal, but in the Soundtrack section, it credits "Richard Bucknker" for "Ariel Ramirez" which is a typo of "Richard Buckner". I can't change it, so i thought i'd point it out. Jenna4Ever (talk) 09:30, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, thanks for the heads up. --Silver Edge (talk) 10:14, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soundtrack Spelling Error 

message: I wen to to see the film in a Korean cinema and at the end of the film as the credits were rolling the Korean subtitles were providing some sort of an epilogue. I can't read Korean but a Korean friend translated for me saying that they said something along the lines of how Kristen was found alive and she is now in a mental institute. Does anyone else have anymore information on this?
--Dharbinson (talk) 22:47, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Korean Version, Subtitles at the end? 

message: The story is "inspired" key word inspired. It does not say "based" like many movies that talk about real life. You must also note it says "inspired by true events" meaning more than one event. The common assumption is to think it is about a true story, as in one story, but when he states inspired, which many newspapers have written, he took several different true stories and combined them to make a movie. So technically he used true stories and the movie itself was inspired by these events. In addition, take the key where it talks about FBI home invasions, here he was trying to state that bad things can happen to you at home. As for a James Hoyt, the only real James Hoyt is Ryan James Hoyt who was guilty of helping out in a 15 year old killing in California.http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/inspire and http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/based--220.127.51.66 (talk) 13:38, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's not odd at all. That's a standard disclaimer that almost all movies run at the end even if the film was inspired by true events. If something is inspired by actual events, it's not what actually happened hence the disclaimer. Also, the word "oddly" is POV. Odd is a relative term which is why I reverted the addition in the first place aside from it being completely unsourced. If you have a reliable source that points out this oddity, it belongs in the article, otherwise, it's just POV/OR. Pinkadelica Say it... 07:59, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inspired Versus Based

message: What's different in the unrated version?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.17.51.198 (talk) 21:33, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: About 2 minutes of footage.  What footage, I can't say. --17:06, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unrated Version 

message: Okay so yeah, why aren't the Keddie Murders mentioned as an inspiration for the film? They were an inspiration for the film. I thought producers had even mentioned this. --24.20.160.178 (talk) 04:46, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Wondering the same thing. --RThompson82 (talk) 03:19, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Keddie Murders. Again.

message: The plot summary, as-is, doesn't make any sense.  It needs to be rewritten from scratch.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.249.219.139 (talk) 23:14, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot 

message: Is this properly categorized as a horror film? There are no supernatural or other characteristics of horror. Isn't it simply a thriller?Royalcourtier (talk) 05:02, 26 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Horror? 

message: Please check recent edits by User:86.187.49.32, as I cannot tell if they are constructive or not. —Formal Dude (talk) 07:03, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding expert needed tag 

message: Please consider paraphrasing the text in that quote box, or rendering it as a blockquote; I don't believe Template:Quote box says that is should it be used for decorative purposes like what this article does. (Its colour yellow has led me to think of it that way). Slightlymad 07:14, 19 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  To whom it may concern...