Talk:Ernest Hemingway House

message: I would like to add "The Ernst Hemingway Home and Museum is now located at this historic house"  as the last sentence in the intro paragraph.  Please comment on this entry.  Thanks! FieldMarine (talk) 20:03, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
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message: One sentence states that Hemingway did not own cats while on the property, and the other claims that he converted a urinal from Sloppy Joe's into a fountain for his cats.  Either he owned them, or he didn't.  The source for not owning the cats is the reliable of the two, so I will remove the part about the fountain being for his cats, as it contradicts the more reliable source.  165.134.121.30 (talk) 21:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The urinal is on the property and is used as an ornimental fountain. Whether for more than that is seriously in question (though the many cats on the property appreciate it today, of course). EH might have put it in for his peacocks or simply as a bird fountain.  Since the polydactyl cats at the EH house are a major point of its attraction, anything the guides say about them is suspect (though some guides will give you the true story of EH's sons touring the house and pooh-poohing the cat mythology). EH did not develop a liking for cats until he'd moved permanently to Cuba, and the cats in the Finca photo late 1942  are known, have names, and are known to be the first cats EH ever owned. Some are not full grown in this Finca Vigia photo (which is NOT 1946, BTW). EH and Pauline split in the Summer of 1939 and I rather doubt he ever saw the Key West house from the time he found it empty in December, 1939 (when I presume he collected his things from it, on his way to permanently relocating to Cuba where he was already renting a house and land with Martha/Marty Gelhorn), and Pauline's death in 1951. As for Pauline, she and the children moved out of the Key West house in the Summer of 1940, going to San Francisco, and never had cats in Key West, according to EH's children and Mary Hemingway. Pauline Pfeiffer's article states she stayed in Key West and California from 1940-51; and if not in this house in Key West I don't know where. The children however, I think more or less stayed in California after the move in 1940; with occasional Summer vacations to see their father in Cuba, mostly during the war.  The Cuban cats of 1942 and later, came from Cuba-- there's no evidence at all that EH brought any with him from Key West, when he saw it for the last time for years, in Dec. 1939. When the polydactyl cats in the Key West house arrived in Key West is a mystery, but it must have been some time after 1940, when the children were no longer at the house, and Pauline was only there occasionally. EH and Pauline Pfeiffer jointly owned and rented the Key West house to others (until Pauline's death in 1951, after which it belonged to EH). EH apparently occasionally visited the Key West property after 1951 and Pauline's death, but when he did, he stayed in the writer's room in the separate carriage house, as somebody was always living in the main house. It's possible he or a renter picked up some polydactyl cats on the property during that time (obviously SOMEBODY did), but it wouldn't be fair to call them Hemingway's cats. SBHarris 17:44, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Cats or no cats?

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