Talk:Association for Consciousness Exploration

message: *Duplicates. --evrik 16:36, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: From Krassner's article:*Krassner, Paul (2005). Life Among the Neopagans in The Nation, August 24, 2005 (web only).
The annual Starwood Festivals have been presented by the Cleveland-based Association for Consciousness Exploration, a group of about thirty friends  . . .
That's peculiar as a subject for an encyclopedia article.  ABSmyth 22:34, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is "a group of about thirty friends"  

message: I've majorly trimmed the article, making it read more like an enyclopedia article and not so much like a sympathetic or promotional piece. I've also removed a lot of puff about the events, events which have their own articles. --kingboyk 12:48, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with your basic intent here. Hopefully, Rosencomet will discuss here before reverting again. -999 (Talk) 13:57, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I will, indeed. I think I will have to revisit this article to add in certain information that show what fields of interest and what communities is involved with, and perhaps other data that gives a better picture or the organization. But I shall not merely revert it, and I think your basic intent is valid, as 999 has said. This is one of my earlier efforts, and it does not sound as encyclopedic as my later efforts. I'm learning.Rosencomet 16:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. We strive to take a neutral tone; we neither love our subjects nor loathe them. Also, the festivals have their own articles so we can mention them here but provide the detail in their articles. That's what the wikilinks are for :) Hope that helps! --kingboyk 19:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trimmed 

message: Does it really need 4 Rosencomet links, all going to www.rosencomet.com? Two go to the same page: www.rosencomet.com/about. Isn't that against the rules? Timmy12 21:39, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no rule prohibiting complete citation. Ekajati (yakity-yak) 22:43, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article has 4 Rosencomet links in it  - isn't that a bit much? 

message: Mattisse has requested assistance. She has mentioned this article in her request. I am starting to look into the issue. Any information people could give me would be very welcome. Cheers. SilkTork 20:58, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:AMA Requests for Assistance/Requests/November 2006/Mattisse]] 

message: ACE Director Jeff Rosenbaum hosted several shows on low-power television station WCLL-CA in Columbus, Ohio when it was owned by Owens Broadcasting.  Does anyone have any more information on this? -- SwissCelt 11:17, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not true. I don't know what Jeff Rosenbaum that was, if indeed there was one, but it's not the same guy. This one was once a guest on a Columbus show (Jeff & Christie Live - WCLL Channel 19 Columbus, OH Cable TV Show), with another ACE director Joseph Rothenberg, but that's it. Rosencomet 19:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, got it.  I think I mistook the identity of the host.  Sorry about that. -- SwissCelt 06:50, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WCLL-CA|WCLL]] and Jeff Rosenbaum 

message: I've added some references to this page, and WinterStar & Starwood as well. I don't think anyone will consider them contentious. I've just discovered Google Book Search - boy, will that make things easier for a lot of editors!Rosencomet 19:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: * Do Not Merge It is not common Wikipedia practice to merge festivals together or merge them with the organizations that run them unless the organization does nothing but run that event. Pagan Spirit Gathering is not merged with Circle Sanctuary, Cannabis Cup is not merged with High Times, and Mythic Journeys is not merged with Mythic Imagination Institute. Here are examples of festivals of all sorts from the page for that category that are not so merged. (There are more: I got tired of listing them after reaching the "f"s and just added a few random ones.) If you sample others, discounting those that are not events (festivals like "Beltane") and those run by a city or other government, you'll see my point. The Starwood Festival and the WinterStar Symposium are two distinct events run by an organization that also maintains two facilities in the Cleveland area and produces tapes, CDs, DVDs, and other events, offers local classes, and has other functions. Each has demonstrated it's notability to merit an article, and new rules or policies should not be created just for them. I think this is just another attempt by the same few people who keep trying any possible way to reduce these articles.
*Africa Day - Organisation of African Unity
*Artimation - Illinois Institute of Art - Chicago
*Beltane Fire Festival - Beltane Fire Society
*Cannabis Cup - High Times
*Cannes Lions International Advertising Festival (IAF) - EMAP plc
*Cardiff Design Festival - University of Wales Institute, Cardiff
*Carpe Diem - Indian Institute of Management Calcutta
*Dark City - Edinburgh University Students' Association
*Day on the Green - Bill Graham Presents
*Delphic Games - International Delphic Council
*Edgefest - CFNY-FM
*FM4 Frequency Festival -  FM4
*Festival da Canção - RTP
*The Machynlleth Festival - The Tabernacle
*Mythic Journeys - Mythic Imagination Institute
*Newbury Comedy Festival - Vodafone
*1987 IUSY Festival - International Union of Socialist Youth
*Pagan Spirit Gathering - Circle Sanctuary
*Sun Fun Festival -  Hawaiian Tropic
*Terrastock - Ptolemaic Terrascope
*X-Day - Church of the SubGenius
Rosencomet 23:10, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment I have expanded all three articles to address this issue and further distinguish these subjects. All material I have added is, IMO, notable as part of a description of such a subject, and available from sources already in the reference sections of each article. Rosencomet 20:50, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Do Not Merge with Starwood Festival & WinterStar Symposium

message: No additional comments have been posted for or against this proposal since February 26th. There were three proposals to merge the articles, and five not to merge. All three articles have been expanded since that date, and IMO show greater reason for the articles to stand separately on their own. In accordance with Wikipedia policy , there being no clear agreement after two weeks that the articles should be merged and no response after four weeks, I have deleted the Merge tags from all three articles. Rosencomet 20:11, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge Proposal

message: Someone might want to note that margot adlers book has been revised again (refs section of article). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thaddeus Slamp (talk • contribs) 05:12, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  adler rerevised 

message: Per the problems on Jeff Rosenbaum and other articles where the "references" were added by User:Rosencomet, I'm going to be going through these to see if they are more than trivial mentions (per WP:V and WP:RS). If they have substantiative content, they need page numbers. (And this needs to be dealt with by people who are not members of ACE, btw, as members of ACE have Conflict of Interest issues here. If you are connected with ACE and know page numbers, please add them here on talk page. Thanks.) If the mention is trivial, I'm cutting it. - Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 03:06, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: I agree that this article should be deleted or redirected/merged to Starwood Festival. Qworty (talk) 21:48, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delete or redirect/merge 

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