Talk:Mohammad Javad Zarif

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thread_title:  External links modified (February 2018) 

message: added some relevant content to the lead that was reverted by . Now, a reliable source supports this claim. The source only quotes IRI regime's wording about the USA, this is not "POV".---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 23:26, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , why is it important to add that in the lead section. Also the sources are not actually supporting that statement you added that "ALL" his degree were from the U.S.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 23:32, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's relevant since Javad Zarif who calls the USA "Great Satan" has, in fact studied there and his kids were born there too, this sounds like a very relevant information. I have no problem with giving more details about this ironical information in the body of the article too. Also, while the article does not say "all", it appears in the given list that all his degrees were obained in the USA. However, i would also agree with a sentence like "He obtained his University degrees in the USA" if the word "all" is such a big deal for you.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 23:38, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , I have started a discussion, I dont have time with with this nonsense  Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons/Noticeboard#Mohammad_Javad_Zarif.--SharʿabSalam▼ (talk) 23:45, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fine, i have no problem with that.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 23:52, 31 January 2020 (UTC)

text: It's possible some info on his education belongs in the lead. But the lead and probably the article would need to be better developed. The lead has basically no real info on his early life. And any info will be in the form of 'he obtained' or similar not 'all his degrees were from the US'. (John Kerry, Madeleine Albright, Condoleezza Rice, Jeremy Hunt, Philip Hammond for example, all include information on their education in the lead, but it seems to be somewhat integrated into the lead and comes across as an attempt to provide biographical info on the person rather than coming across as an attempt to make a point, although the lead quality does vary.) Nil Einne (talk) 16:01, 1 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree with , my goal was not to illustrate a point, rather, to give an additional insight about Mohammad Javad Zarif.  What would you think about adding a quote about his education in the lead, as this is detailed in the body of the article ? This fits with WP:LEAD too.---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 00:34, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Why mention his university degrees in the lead paragraph, , if the point is not to comment on his perceived hypocrisy for getting a good education in the U.S. and then returning home to oppose U.S. policy? That's a perfectly valid point to make in your newsletter or in your blog or on your social media page. But this is a neutral encyclopedia article. Is your "insight" neutral or POV? Cullen328 Let's discuss it 06:42, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   I want to add an insight because it gives some relevant information about this person, nothing less, nothing more. I don't think that anybody label similar information in the leads' of the articles about John Kerry, Jeremy Hunt or Philip Hammond as "POV". Should we  refrain from including such informations in the lead of this article specifically just because few people could interpret this as "POV" ? How is this POV if one includes a sentence like "he obtained his degrees in the USA" with a reliable source ?---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 10:22, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Javad Zarif's University degrees 

message: Leaked Mohammad Javad Zarif audiotape
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thread_title:  Please help with new article about the leaked Zarif audiotape