Talk:Operation Tabarin

message: Haddelsey states that Veslekari was renamed HMS Bransfield. Do you have another source? I doubt there will be enough information for a separate article. Finavon (talk) 16:57, 18 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah I did wonder about that and was considering buying the book. I've checked in College - there is no HMS Bransfield and looked up VESLEKARI on Miramar - no record of ever having being renamed. Also looked here  - not mentioned. Highland Monarch was also never commissioned. I'm having big doubts about Haddelsey being a RS Lyndaship (talk) 17:09, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

text: Just found  which does claim she was HMS Bransfield however its either copied from our RRS Bransfield article or ours is a copyvio of it. Regardless I believe College and Miramar Lyndaship (talk) 17:16, 18 May 2020 (UTC)

text: There is an excellent source on the re-naming of Veslekari as HMS Bransfield (Pearce, 2018) so I've changed the reference. Pearce's book refers to primary sources for the facts, held in British Antarctic Survey (BAS) Archives or UK National Archives. BAS later had a vessel, RRS Bransfield. Buckland1072 (talk) 10:36, 13 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry but a self published book whose prime topic is postal history is neither a RS nor trumps such acknowledged RS as College or Miramar. Does Pearces sources include such things as Admiralty Red or Pink Lists, Naval List etc? Lyndaship (talk) 10:55, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

text:  OK, thanks for telling me - I'm new to Wikipedia editing. I'll remove that reference. No his sources don't include those you listed but they are original administrative files created at the time of the expedition by the UK Admiralty/Colonial Office eg UK National Archives ref CO78/215/9 . I didn't think conventions allowed me to reference original unpublished sources? Buckland1072 (talk) 13:55, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

text: This is an error on Fuch's part, amongst the acknowledged errors in "Of Ice and Men" (ISBN 0904614069) - he identified the original expedition ship as Godthaab, not Veslekari as it's named in the expedition committee minutes (in BAS Archives and National Archives). Buckland1072 (talk) 14:03, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

text: Posssibly. The Polar Record article should be sufficiently reliable. The CO minute (cited above) proposes the name change, with the prefix "HMS". Buckland1072 has acknowledged the error in "Of Ice and Men". Finavon (talk) 09:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  HMS ''Bransfield'' 

message: I'm interested in revising this article, having some knowledge of the Expedition. Does anyone want to collaborate? Buckland1072 (talk) 19:11, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Good addition of sources. Happy to help but have v. limited access to reliable sources. Finavon (talk) 09:24, 14 March 2021 (UTC)

text: Thank you. I'm looking into the etiquette of wanting to make quite extensive edits to an existing page. The article is missing quite a bit of information at the moment, especially about the 2nd year. If I draft something in Word 1st, in due course, perhaps you'd be willing to look over it? Buckland1072 (talk) 19:24, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  WP:BOLD, WP:CITE, WP:Workpages. Did you recently send me a copy of one the CO minutes by email? Finavon (talk) 23:16, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, not me. Buckland1072 (talk) 10:56, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm interested in revising this article