Talk:Jeremy Beecham, Baron Beecham

message: not moved. There seems to be little doubt (in the arguments below) that this individual is better known without the title and WP:NCPEER seems reasonably clear that we should use the personal name. See Andrewa's rationale below. --rgpk (comment) 17:39, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose - Known for his career in Local government and not for being a peer. Also no need for disambiguation with this article title.--Lucy-marie (talk) 18:48, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Support. WP:NCPEER is quite clear. This chap is no longer wholly or exclusively known by his pre-peerage nomenclature. Kittybrewster  ☎ 15:15, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Oppose in the strongest possible terms for consistency in naming per policy and guidelines like WP:COMMONNAME, WP:TITLE, WP:D and WP:PRECISION that apply to all Wikipedia article titles. The subject is most commonly known as "Jeremy Beecham"; adding ", Baron Beecham" is additional precision that is completely unnecessary, all good reasons to ignore WP:NCPEER.  --Born2cycle (talk) 20:05, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Support per WP:NCPEER. No longer exclusively known by his untitled name, and notable by his title as a shadow minister in the House of Lords.B2C's arguments are bogus, because the policy WP:TITLE explicitly permits topic-specific naming conventions such as WP:NCPEER. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 23:26, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Comment - This is not a Crystal Ball and what they are currently known is what we have to take as the current commonly used name. If in the future the individual is known regularly by their ennobled title then that would be grounds to change the article title. To though say, it is expected that the names they are known by will change is not how things work on Wikipeida.--Lucy-marie (talk) 17:36, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment: Very well put. No change of vote. Andrewa (talk) 14:29, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
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message: I note that in the final paragraph, Lord Beechham's date of introduction is given as 28 July 2010. This is in error: reference to both the Lords Minutes of proceedings for 27 July 2010 and that day's Hansard (Lords, v. 720 col. 1225) will show that he was introduced and subscribed the oath the previous day. Footnote 8 will need correcting too.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.26.65.42 (talk) 11:16, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error in article: Jeremy Beecham ...