Talk:Cheng Man-ch'ing

message: There's no Senate in Taiwan--Jiang 10:15, 12 November 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not quite accurate. I've read at least few Taiwanese lineage stating that Cheng Taichiquan is a distinct style. It may be the case that "earlier" students of Cheng may consider that they are practicing Yang style or abbrebiated Yang style. Anyway, there are many style of Chinese kung fu where the "so-called" founder never claimed a distinct style. Rather, all lineages evolve and become distinct over time. For example, can we be certain that Yang Lu-ch'an practiced Yang "style" of taichiquan? I would say that he probably practiced modified Chen style. Does it mean there is no such thing as Yang style? Or should we say Yang style was founded by the Yang Ch'eng-fu who removed the vigorous Fa-jing, energetic jumping, heavy stepping, and other abrupt movements? Considering that Yang lineage do not recognise CMC style of taichichuan as a part of Yang, I can't see why there is a problem in saying CMC style? If it's not a yang style, it's a separate style. CMC is the founder of CMC style which is an off shoot of Yang style. Vapour 13:05, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Dear Vapour, I would be careful to base an opinion on some writings. I had the pleasure to have been instructed by 4  Chinese direct students and 4 US direct students. I have understood from all of them that I was studying Yang style. For me that is more authoritative. SimpleTC (talk) 10:33, 11 December 2023 (UTC)

text: If you upload it onto Youtube or Google video and then provide an external link to that page on this article that should do the trick. There are lots of public domain Tai Chi videos on those sites already, so it may save you some time to search for uploaded CMC videos on those sites first. --Fire Star 火星 15:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Hi-- I've made some major revisions to this page based on cited books and articles, and have done a bit of cutting and pasting to try to make it read more smoothly. Will add some more books when I have time. Ruguo 06:45, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  major revisions 

message: Should the videos be listed if they are bootlegged?
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I added again the ghostwriting citation with references. I removed the video link as per copyright discussion, and added some Chinese names Ruguo 05:36, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: videos?

message: Maybe someone can help out here; if the left kua (inguinal canal) is closing and the right kua opening, and the right knee is not totally collapsing onto the left side (ie. William cc Chen's 'three nails' theory) then, in the transition from eg. 'hold ball right' to the end of 'single whip' does one really rotate on/through the heel, or on/through the Yung Chuan ('bubbling well')? In Western boxing, when throwing a right hook off the front leg, one is told to rotate on the front part of the back 'empty' foot "As if squashing a bug" as seen at . However, at , Nigel Sutton's wife is seen raising the foot and rotating on the heel..
81.132.68.59 00:28, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That was such a byzantine description of movement, I have no idea what youre talking about... VanTucky 02:40, 20 April 2007 (UTC)

text: My understanding coming out of the Ben Lo CMC lineage is that the second one is more correct (rotating on the heel). I think that most would agree that Ben Lo has stayed closer to the original CMC form than William Chen. An important consideration is that these type of weight transfers in the CMC form assume 1) that the weight first shifts and that the rear foot is only turned after the weight has been shifted (in order to prevent unnecessary torsion in the rear knee) and 2) that the position of the feet should always be in such a way that the empty feet can be picked up without the need to lean or tensing up. As a consequence, it is better to turn on the heel as it does not extend the distance between both feet (which could lead to an inability to separate weight). SimpleTC (talk) 00:15, 1 January 2024 (UTC)

text: This is beyond the scope of a talk page, as this discussion is not about improving the article. Please see WP:NOTSOCIALMEDIA. Peaceray (talk) 03:07, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  CMC style; rotating on the heel or the 'yung chuan' point at the end of 'Single Whip'? 

message: Similar to the split of Moy Lin Shin, Taoist Tai Chi and Taoist Tai Chi Society, I think we need to make "Cheng man ching's tai chi" a separate stub. Sprcifically referring to the 36 form of course. any objections? VanTucky 06:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  new article 

message: Removed a couple of references. One to Zhong Ding in UK looked to be commercial link. If they can justify why it should be listed, okay, but otherwise, hundereds of others will want to be listed as well. Also, Kung fu book removed, couldn't see why it was listed in first place. Still are a lot of cites missing for bio section.Taiji19 (talk) 21:56, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: The standard in English Wikipedia for Chinese transliteration is pinyin.  Any objection to moving this article accordingly? Bertport (talk) 00:05, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pinyin title