Talk:Slapping (music)

message: === Inventor of Slapping: Not Stanley Clarke ===
This article states that it is generally accepted that Stanley Clarke is the inventor of slap bass, but this statement conflicts with another page on Youtube.  On the Larry Graham article, it states, 
"He is credited with the invention of the slapping technique, which radically expanded the tonal palette of the bass, although he himself refers to the technique as "Thumpin' and Pluckin'.""
I think this should be resolved somehow.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.245.168.138 (talk) 00:22, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed -- the examples section remains way too long.  I would say we should cut down to maybe 3-4 exemplars total, with not more than one per genre (and I'd do the cut, but who knows whose toes I'd be stepping on...) JSoules (talk) 05:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Follow-up -- I actually did do a cut here, commenting out the second paragraph of examples (and cutting P-Nut from the remaining first paragraph, because who?) as part of the general clarity rewrite I just did. JSoules (talk) 06:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Short quotes from other scoures are allowed, I would say especially if they themselves are quoting someone. Longer passages are frowned upon, although you could put them in your own words. Steve Pastor (talk) 19:23, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

text: I have re-removed this reference, as it appears to be nonsense.  Google shows nothing for "Slap and pop balloon".  Also, one of the users who has been adding the reference, User:169.157.198.146, vandalised Vunzmstr's notice above, which suggest to me that they are not a legit editor. -- AJR | Talk 14:00, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I have never heard of this Jason Salem fellow, but slap and pop balloons sounded familiar so I asked a few friends about them.  One of them, who is very into nu metal/funk, told me a bit about them.  He said they’re a fairly new innovation, and he’s only heard them once.  I used some of his information to create a stub on them.  Hopefully someone else who knows more will add to it soon.  I’ve therefore added the reference to the stub, but I have left out the reference to Jason Salem for now, as my friend had never heard of him either. -- Justin- 5:50, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: This article states that it is generally accepted that Stanley Clarke is the inventor of slap bass, but this statement conflicts with another page on Youtube.  On the Larry Graham article, it states, 
"He is credited with the invention of the slapping technique, which radically expanded the tonal palette of the bass, although he himself refers to the technique as "Thumpin' and Pluckin'.""
I think this should be resolved somehow.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.245.168.138 (talk) 00:22, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inventor of Slapping: Not Stanley Clarke 

message: Louis Johnson is/was a great Slap Bass player, but he is not the inventor of slap bass technique on electric bass. The article has a [4] after his name, but that links to an article from Bass Player magazine which contains info about Larry Graham (who is recognized as the inventor of slap bass technique on electric bass). Louis Johnson is not mentioned in the article. I didn't remove Louis from the article because I'm a WIki novice. Hopefully one of the more experienced editors will look into this. Bbm (talk) 01:35, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inventor of Slapping: Not Louis Johnson 

message: There are better examples by the chilis! ... 
Storm in a teacup, and, Tell me baby ... 
These two songs have VERY prominent slap bass technique! 86.3.232.18 18:54, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other tunes with slap bass 

message: I took the liberty to delete the entry about Mudvayne, not because i think Mudvayne is not a good example of slapping but because i don't think the article will benefit from the whole internet submitting their favorite slapping bassplayer to this article. In the end the same thing will happen as happened with the 'influential bassists' list of the 'bass guitar' article, it will get too long and it will have to be removed from the article. (people think: 'hey, if mudvayne is mentioned here, then at least Robert Trujillo should be mentioned here as well' etc?)I think it makes sense to have some examples in this article, but having too many of them would go beyond its purpose. --Vunzmstr 10:38, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed -- the examples section remains way too long.  I would say we should cut down to maybe 3-4 exemplars total, with not more than one per genre (and I'd do the cut, but who knows whose toes I'd be stepping on...) JSoules (talk) 05:38, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Follow-up -- I actually did do a cut here, commenting out the second paragraph of examples (and cutting P-Nut from the remaining first paragraph, because who?) as part of the general clarity rewrite I just did. JSoules (talk) 06:27, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Examples 

message: User 64.6.41.190 added on 24 July the story about Larry Graham inventing the slap and pop technique because he could not afford a drum kit. I have heard of this story but i heard many other stories as well. Does anybody know a reliable source for this story? --Vunzmstr 10:02, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Short quotes from other scoures are allowed, I would say especially if they themselves are quoting someone. Longer passages are frowned upon, although you could put them in your own words. Steve Pastor (talk) 19:23, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: I deleted the reference to one Jason Salem and his slap and pop balloons. It is unclear who this guy is and why he should be mentioned in this article. It's also unclear what slap and pop balloons are. --Vunzmstr 10:59, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have re-removed this reference, as it appears to be nonsense.  Google shows nothing for "Slap and pop balloon".  Also, one of the users who has been adding the reference, User:169.157.198.146, vandalised Vunzmstr's notice above, which suggest to me that they are not a legit editor. -- AJR | Talk 14:00, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I have never heard of this Jason Salem fellow, but slap and pop balloons sounded familiar so I asked a few friends about them.  One of them, who is very into nu metal/funk, told me a bit about them.  He said they’re a fairly new innovation, and he’s only heard them once.  I used some of his information to create a stub on them.  Hopefully someone else who knows more will add to it soon.  I’ve therefore added the reference to the stub, but I have left out the reference to Jason Salem for now, as my friend had never heard of him either. -- Justin- 5:50, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jason Salem? 

message: it seems that another user created an article on the same subject @ Slap bass (originally titled "Slap back"). are these distinct subjects, or two articles on the same thing? i'm leaning toward the latter and a redirect is in order, but i want to confirm this with you guys. Joeyramoney 06:10, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From the Recording Techniques Section of the Rockabilly article.
"Slapback, slapback echo, flutter echo, tape delay echo, echo, and reverb are some of the terms used to describe one particular aspect of rockabilly recordings." More obviously, that means reverb of some kind. Steve Pastor (talk) 22:18, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  something fishy's going on 

message: That's a fictional character. What's he doing in the list of "prominent bassists using slapping"? — Gwalla | Talk 04:08, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Murderface? 

message: I know it seems kind of insignificant, but I thought I'd run this by some fellow editors before I added it: I was wondering if slapping is considered an extended technique for bass seeing as how it is an unexpected or unorthodox method of playing. I was going to change the opening sentence to mention this as well as linking it to the related article. --Thaddius (talk) 14:59, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It may have been unexpected or unorthodox at one point in time, but it's long since become a standard technique (one that most bassists learn).  So I'd say no. Klausness (talk) 16:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Extended technique]]? 

message: I'd like to mention that this page appear to be unclear on a number of topics.  Now that I think I've got a grip on the topics, I'd like to recommend that this page be split and merged and stuff.  
To start with, I'll describe the things that I think this page is talking about:
* Plucking a string in such a way that it strikes the fingerboard (called "Slapping" by double bassist, and "Popping" by bass guitarists)
* Striking a string or strings (also possibly called "Slapping" by double bassists, and called "Slapping" by guitarists)
* A general style of play that combines both of these
The technique that involves striking the strings is very similar to what is described in Tambour (guitar technique), and I recommend that the relevant parts of the article be merged into that.  
I recommend that Pop (guitar technique) be made into a separate article of its own, although possibly a name with a longer history could be found for the technique.  
I recommend that this article be moved and converted into an article about the Slap and Pop style.  
I recommend that the article entitled Slapping be a disambig page linking to both Tambour and to Slap and Pop.  
-- TimNelson (talk) 05:00, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like the above comments all belong to the same user (no)?  In any event, I would not recommend merging this article with the Tambour article.  Slap bass is much more recognized than a particular Flamenco technique; there's really not even a need for a disambig page (although cross-referencing the tambour article would be appropriate).  From the tambour article, the technique doesn't sound that close to my experience playing slap bass; moreover, we'd be merging a completed article into a stub.  And finally, Tambour is called Tambour, it isn't called slap (while slap bass is); so a disambig would not be appropriate.  So I would say cross-reference tambour in the bass article, at the most. JSoules (talk) 05:36, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split and merge 

message: Seinfeld has no slap bass.  It's a keyboard sample.
* You're right.  It said "slap bass sample" but I updated it to say "slap bass keyboard sample" to make it more clear.  In the future please don't remove things completely just because they could be a little clearer. If you don't like the way it's written, feel free to edit it.  If you want it removed completely, we can discuss it.  I understand it's cheesy, but I think it's relevant.  Maybe we can rewrite it to underscore how cheesy it is and we can all be satisfied. KenFehling (talk) 06:38, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Seinfeld

message: I suggest to delete the example of Mark Manley (The Thunder Group) as recognized bass player. I have never heard of Mark Manley neither have I ever know the Thunder Group. The same goes for Justice (French band). The article is about a dance duo! They don't even use a bass guitar! Do they? --88.74.93.172 (talk) 09:07, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing Mark Manley (The Thunder Group) and Justice (French band) 

message: There are currently 3 external links pointing to one person's web sites.
Slap Bass Audio & Video Samples from FunkyChops
Free Slap Bass Video Tutorial
Music Man Stingray audio and photo
All of them are from the guy, Jim Lee, who runs FunkyChops.com. 
Isn't one link enough? Bbm (talk) 01:44, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: Nope. 
Slapping above or right next to the fretboard is much more common, especially on the lighter strings.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.133.133.221 (talk) 12:18, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Typical position of the right hand" 

message: In the article Everyday People it is stated that this song is the first instance of slap technique (although it has no reference) can this be verified and if so, be put into the article? dh74g3y (talk) 11:49, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Everyday People