Talk:Dexamethasone

message: * Yes - include This is an important result announced by a highly respected and authoritative reliable source. Hallucegenia (talk) 15:43, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes - include with the caveats that it is a preliminary result. Anywikiuser (talk) 16:10, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reintroduced the COVID-19 section. I've kept the stronger sources I saw here and in the previous edits. I've tried to make it clear those are preliminary results. Comments welcome. I think something should be said in the lead as well probably. --   talk 22:52, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for doing that. Hallucegenia (talk) 08:53, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments re inclusion of COVID-19 

message: And, IF we do agree to include a reference to COVID-19 in the article, can we also agree in advance on what reliable sources we use to support the following statements? Feel free to add (or strikethrough) statements and sources in the list below: Hallucegenia (talk) 17:29, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not for medical claims as far as I know. WP:MEDRS is where you'll find those answers. --   talk 08:26, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomination of reliable sources 

message: I've removed a preprint and the content reporting it, and added a quote from the Director-General of the WHO that illustrates the concerns much better and more authoritatively, IMHO. --RexxS (talk) 00:32, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concerns about treatment with dexamethasone 

message: "Scientists offer hope after trials show a combination of spironolactone and dexamethasone work far better than dexamethasone alone" https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/11/27/spidex-drug-cocktail-could-defeat-new-covid-variant/ 2600:8804:6600:83:89EB:A1DD:FFCA:B3CA (talk) 17:34, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Use with Spironolactone

message: On 4 October 2020, doctors treating Donald Trump for COVID-19 announced that Trump had been given dexamethasone.
I added this edit to the end of the History section, but it was reverted three minutes later with the reason for revert listed as "Undue factoid". The case for including this is that the use of this drug to treat a highly notable person is definitely relevant. I'd like to see consensus on this, and I'd like to see any arguments against inclusion linked to WP:POL. 73.158.166.97 (talk) 18:23, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:NOT. Wikipedia is supposed to be a "summary of accepted knowledge" on its topics. Some "breaking news" style trivia about Trump adds precisely nothing to our understanding of Dexamethasone. If some analytical commentary on this appears in RS, then we can think again. Alexbrn (talk) 20:00, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Does not mention a specific thing under WP:NOT that this is, and that Wikipedia is not. A drug is evaluated by its usage. The treatment of a major world leader using this drug definitely tells us something valuable about usage. "Trivia" and "analytical commentary" are not linked to WP:POL. WP:NEWSORG is listed under WP:RS. Los Angeles Times is definitely an established national news organization, and carries weight as a reliable source. I restored the fact to the article, this time adding AlJazeera and the New York Times for additional credibility. 73.158.166.97 (talk) 20:57, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I removed it WP:NOTNEWS. You asked for consensus. Please wait until consensus is reached before adding it again. --Whywhenwhohow (talk) 21:36, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not news under WP:NOTNEWS. It does not meet any of the four categories of WP:NOTNEWS. It is not original reporting, because it cites three reliable sources that contain the fact. It is not a news report, because it is not written in news style and it only contains the most important piece of information in one sentence. Additionally, this does not receive any undue coverage because it is recent. The fact that this drug is used to treat a sitting US president for a life-threatening infection will be as Wikipedia-worthy 40 years from now as it is today. It is not a who's who, because it only mentions the one relevant person by name. It is not a diary, because this is not the Donald Trump article. Additionally, the White House COVID-19 outbreak article currently has more detailed writing about Trump's Dexamethasone treatment, and with fewer reliable sources. It definitely deserves at least a short mention on this article. 73.158.166.97 (talk) 23:07, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Include. It is a useful piece of information. I specifically came to this page because I wanted to learn more about the drug after I learned that Trump was treated with it and was disappointed to find no mention of it in the main article and wondered when I found no mention of it if I had been mistaken about Trump taking this drug. 2600:1700:DC50:5560:4D4E:8A:E80E:7E77 (talk) 18:56, 8 October 2020 (UTC)

text: I would not include this piece of information. It doesn't add any information regarding Dexamethasone and it will be irrelevant in a couple of months. WP:NOTNEWS --   talk 10:20, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trump treatment 

message: 1st major paragraph, last sentence. "Dexamethasone has anti-inflammatory and immunosuppressant effects.[9]" This statement is counterintuitive biologically, consider discerning affect and effect both practically and parasympathetically (primary through tertiary active action of medication instead of biological counter-reaction, or the even less desirable redundant primate model.) Mrianwilliam (talk) 10:37, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dimensional ambiguity