Talk:Elizabeth Moon

message: Hi there, I saw that there were quite a few articles on EM's novels, so I made Category:Elizabeth Moon novels and also Category:Elizabeth Moon to contain it. If you make any new pages for this author please add them to the new categories! Thanks - ben 06:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
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message: I have never played D&D, but I am intrigued by the reference to a monster that only appears in D&D rules mentioned about the Deed of Paksenarrion.  Can anyone shed any light on that?  Such as a name or description? 
Boesie 19:14, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
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message: Elizabeth Moon's book "Sheepfarmer's Daughter" is now at 
http://www.webscription.net/10.1125/Baen/0671654160/0671654160.htm
I wonder if the article about her should link to it?
The etext is listed on the Online Books page, and I've found they're meticulous about making sure their listings aren't under copyright.  So it should be a legal copy. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Steve Murgaski (talk • contribs) 07:13, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: At least one of her books is now online

message: I've put a  tag on the statement the Elizabeth Moon says The Deed of Paksenarrion "has nothing to do with FRPG games and had no inspiration from that venue." To be honest, my main motivation is that I would really like to read (or hear) her explanation for the inspiration for one of my favorite trilogies, but a cite for this would improve the article. Cheers, CWC(talk) 14:30, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: At some time or other, I've definitely read a statement by Elizabeth Moon that contradicts that statement in detail but still insists on no more than a tangential connection with FRPG games. What I remember of Moon's position agrees with Ryk E. Spoor's statement in an Amazon review of The Deed of Paksennarion: "The Deed of Paksenarrion does, in fact, have its roots in roleplaying, but not in the usual sense." (You may need to page down a bit - and read the rest of the paragraph, because he says more and that also agrees with what I remember.) PWilkinson 20:26, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that! I've edited the article accordingly. I view that Amazon review as being a Reliable Source for what Ryk Spoor claimed, if not for what Moon has said or written. (Note that the review has one of Amazon's "Real Name" tags, and the Spoor is a Baen Books author, Baen being the publishers for the Paksenarrion books.) Also, that explanation makes a lot of sense to me ... a lot more than Elizabeth Moon being an avid D&D player ... ;-). Thanks again, CWC(talk) 16:42, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deed of Paks not related to D&D?

message: I removed this link from the external links section as it was posted by someone with the same name as the author of the blog. I think he was probably just adding it in case anyone was interested, however it don't think it adds to the article factually. Anyone who is interested can read it from here. Refer to WP:LINKS.  CaNNoNFoDDa 19:31, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Christian or Not?

message: I linked to her page from :Category:Women in the United States Marine Corps but I don't believe that you should link an article like this under female Marines if there is not a reference fact showing that she is a Marine.  It is never even mentioned in the article.  I will remove it if it isn't added in the next two weeks.  Chexmix53 (talk) 23:23, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In the Biography section, second paragraph: "In 1968, she joined the United States Marine Corps, attaining the rank of 1st Lieutenant while on active duty." Cite at the end of the paragraph goes to her home page, which has the info there. So she was a 1st LT on active duty in the USMC, but she was not a Marine? Huh? Am I missing something in your question? - BillCJ (talk) 23:49, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I didn't see it.  Usually being a Marine isn't a one liner in people's bios.  Thanks for pointing it out.Chexmix53 (talk) 17:34, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What more do you expect? What qualifications she obtained, what weapons she used, how many battles she fought in, details of those battles, who her superior officers were, what she ate as a marine? She is notable for writing books, not for being a marine. Not surprisingly, as with the vast majority of articles on wikipedia (and according to our guidelines and policies)*, the article concentrates on what she's noteable for. Her being a marine is obviously of relevance (after all, many of her books have a military theme) and she does mention it in most of her bios but it isn't a primary issue of her life as it concerns readers of an article about someone notable for being an author. And who knowns if there are even reliable sources describing her life as a marine beyond the bare facts we have at the moment. *P.S. Yes this means that there are probably many other articles with ones or two liners about someone being a marine and they should be that way, as with other details that aren't of great concern to someone's life. E.g. the way J. K. Rowling mentions "Rowling then moved to Porto, Portugal to teach English as a foreign language" but doesn't go into extensive detail of her life as a teacher (it does mention other relevant details of that time of her life but doesn't mention what her style of teaching was, who her students were, how often she taught, what the GPA of her students were, who the principal of her school was, whether she usually ate at the cafeteria or brought he own lunch). Nil Einne (talk) 18:52, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I should clarify a long time later that I have no comment on whether our article at the time, or currently, includes enough info on her military career. Perhaps there are sources which include more details and if this article were to be FA, it would need more. But I do think it's clear though that the article isn't going to include an extreme amount of detail since her primary notability comes from her being an author not from her military career. I do think the article needs to mention at least the basics like it did then and does now. There are sources and since there's a fair chance her military career has had some influence on her work given that, as mentioned by our article, many of her books have a military aspect. Nil Einne (talk) 18:44, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
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