Talk:The real McCoy

message: The source cited as evidence that the phrase arose from Elijah McCoy's lubricating device was actually a web page about how McCoy had nothing to do with the phrase, so it is in fact evidence against this contention. Unless someone finds a reliable source proponing Elijah McCoy's lubrication machine as a theory for the phrase this contention has no place in this article.
--Dcowboys3109 (talk) 20:05, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: FWIW, I agree. -- Quuxplusone 06:52, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Elijah McCoy?

message: Hammermill Papers ran an ad in the 90’s:  "The Real McCoy Wasn’t."
I have a copy of this ad if anyone is interested.  
According to the Hammermill ad, Norman Selby left the farm in Indiana around 1890.  A year later, he surface in the ring as Kid McCoy.  The Kid was something.  He said he’d fight anyone, anywhere, and he did.  For years he averaged a fight a month, winning most by knockouts.
A hose of imitation Kid McCoys soon cropped up.  But on March 24, 1899, any confusion ended for good.  The Kid, in a titanic slugfest that cost him three broken ribs, finished off the legendary Joe Choynski in the 20th round.  
The San Francisco Examiner’s boxing writer proclaimed, “NOW YOU’VE SEEN THE REAL McCOY!”
From that time on, the real McCoy implies the genuine article or in Coke language, “The real Thing.”
jrfish 6-16-07
The real McCoy is about Elijah McCoy Greroja (talk) 16:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Kid McCoy

message: "In Scotland the reference is always the real MacKay (with the ay pronounced as i).. In Ireland this changed to McCoy. The Irish MacKays, McCoys and Magees originated in Scotland, crossing to the Ulster Plantations in the 17th century."
Does anyone have a reference for this? Looking at the Origins section, this might have been the case, but I've never heard it used that way in Scotland.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.11.50.56 (talk) 13:50, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don’t have a citation, just the experience, and “Real McKay” is how I have heard it used in Scotland - in the N.E./ Speyside whisky country (mostly in relation to whisky, as it happens,but not always McKay’s!) it seems to be a compliment, to suggest that what you have been given to drink (or eat) is good. Perhaps it’s a regional thing, if you have lived/ been elsewhere in the country? In one of his "Star Trek" adaptations, James Blish used the title “The Unreal McCoy” for the TV story “The Man Trap”, and at the time I just thought it was a bad pun, not an actual expression in use. Jock123 (talk) 11:13, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: "the real Mackay"?

message: "the username of someone on the NLCast forums, who guest hosted in episode 60."
This is confusing. What is NLCast? http://nobodyslistening.net/feed/?http://nobodyslistening.net/feed/? 
It sounds like it's talking about a internet forums. If so, this stands out as probibly false.  I'm fairly certain this term is older than the internet (All other possible origins are Pre-internet. and it would be fairly easy to confirm if it was pre-internet. ) (Foolster41) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.183.183.7 (talk) 07:44, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NLCast 

message: "Elijah McCoy is often overlooked, but McCoy was a Canadian-born inventor, possibly linking his legacy to a Canadian publication. McCoy was also educated in Scotland, where he may easily have been exposed to the phrase "The real MacKay", whether he himself was a drinker or not. And lastly, the Canadian publication The Rise and Fall of the "Union club" which is first credited with the sudden and mysterious popular change from MacKay to McCoy was published at least 9 years after Elijah McCoy's invention of his famous oil-dripping cup. Elijah McCoy is often cited as a sure mythical contribution to the term "The real McCoy"(as opposed to the original Scottish term) however, the facts draw stronger parallels than most of the other possibilities listed above."
How is the above a reference?⋙–Berean–Hunter—► 19:28, 21 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  ref? 

message: Drop of what? A hat? Liquid?
MacKay what? A person? A brand?
Please say so in the article.
Jidanni (talk) 11:32, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology half explained  

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message: I know that Star Trek is hugely popular in the Wikipedia community, but there was a very popular American television series that predated "Star Trek TOS". 
"The Real McCoys" ran for six seasons so it deserves more accolades than "Star Trek TOS" and should be mentioned at the top in the "In Popular Culture" section. Matthewota (talk) 12:36, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Real McCoys" was a television series