Talk:Lady Gabriella Kingston

message: So is she still Lady Gabriella Windsor or is she now Lady Gabriella Kingson? 203.17.70.26 (talk) 04:08, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Undoubtedly Kingston. Ncox001 (talk) 08:48, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Windsor or Kingston?

message: The Lady Gabriella Windsor → Lady Gabriella Windsor – "Lady", in this case, is a coutesy title, and thus, is not preceded with the definite article.
===Voting===
:Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
*Support per nom! --Lox (t,c) 09:33, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Add any additional comments
*If this is approved, we are also going to have to move her brother, and various cousins. If we just move her, it will look strange. Prsgoddess187 01:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Lord Frederick Windsor, her brother, does not have the definite article. If I'm not mistaken (and if I am please correct me), great-grandchildren of the Sovereign are styled as children of a duke, which means "Lord" and "Lady" and not "The Lord" and "The Lady" which is reserved for substantive titles. JSIN 08:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just wanted to make sure that if we changed her title, we would change any others that occur like hers.  I am not sure if her cousins, and others are styled The Lord/Lady. Prsgoddess187 12:58, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I think if we move this, then it would be in order to move other similar pages too. JSIN 13:06, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Says who? CITE! DBD 22:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: :Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
*Support per nom! --Lox (t,c) 09:33, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Voting

message: :Add any additional comments
*If this is approved, we are also going to have to move her brother, and various cousins. If we just move her, it will look strange. Prsgoddess187 01:51, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Lord Frederick Windsor, her brother, does not have the definite article. If I'm not mistaken (and if I am please correct me), great-grandchildren of the Sovereign are styled as children of a duke, which means "Lord" and "Lady" and not "The Lord" and "The Lady" which is reserved for substantive titles. JSIN 08:26, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just wanted to make sure that if we changed her title, we would change any others that occur like hers.  I am not sure if her cousins, and others are styled The Lord/Lady. Prsgoddess187 12:58, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I think if we move this, then it would be in order to move other similar pages too. JSIN 13:06, 11 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Says who? CITE! DBD 22:12, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Just thought I would quote from another source about her status 
"With her enviable combination of brains, beauty and regal connections Gabriella Windsor constantly tops most eligible lists and is at the centre of the aristocratic social scene. But like Zara Phillips, Ella is one of the new set of young working royals determined to retain her independence and make her own way in the world without flaunting her famous surname."
If Zara Phillips is Royal then she is as well
Note the word Royal
http://www.hellomagazine.com/profiles/lady-gabriella-windsor
78.145.166.159 (talk) 22:31, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's Hello magazine! They do not care about being precise or factually correct. When this lady gets a royal title, then we will be able to call her a royal. When this lady starts doing royal duties or when the official website lists her as member of the royal family, then we can call her royal. Surtsicna (talk) 22:33, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  How about the Daily Mail or do they not care about  being precise or factually correct "Lady Gabriella gives her royal cast-offs to Oxfam" again note the word Royal (September 28, 2008) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1063339/Lady-Gabriella-gives-royal-cast-offs-Oxfam.html 78.145.166.159 (talk) 22:39, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Those are just tabloids! When the official website lists her as member, I'll let go. But that will never happen because she is legally a commoner. In Letters Patent gazetted on 11 December 1917, King George V made it clear that only children of the Sovereign, the children of the sons of the Sovereign and the eldest living son of the eldest living son of a Prince of Wales are royal. Therefore, this woman has no royal title. She has no royal style (such as Royal Highness. She has no royal duties. She is not royal! Surtsicna (talk) 22:45, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  If you dont like the Daily Mail try the The Telegraph, now that must be more up market (and not a tabloid!!). "A member of the Royal Family has taken a job writing for the Spanish version of Hello! just three months after the furore caused by Peter Phillips selling his wedding photos to the society magazine ......their Royal contributer.....Under the name Ella Windsor, the Royal"  Now I could be wrong but there are three Royals in that article http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/theroyalfamily/2645300/Lady-Gabriella-Windsor-writes-for-Spanish-Hello.html?mobile=basic 78.145.166.159 (talk) 22:49, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you really think that word of a journalist is of greater importance than word of a king? Do you really think that a journalist is a greater authority on who is royal and who isn't than a king? If you do, then we have nothing else to say to each other. Surtsicna (talk) 22:52, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Lets try whos-who  (not a paper, nor a tabloid) it it lists her as a member of The Royal Family http://www.ukwhoswho.com/public/royals  Anyway who is the King?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.166.159 (talk) 22:57, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You should've read what I said. The King who issued the letters patent which make her a commoner is her great-grandfather, George V. When will you understand that the letters patent issued by a king are greater authority than any internet page? Surtsicna (talk) 23:01, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is she royal? 

message: This will keep changing. Isn't it better to include a link to the official web page of the British Monarchy than having to correct the position all the time? http://www.royal.gov.uk/ThecurrentRoyalFamily/Successionandprecedence/Succession/Overview.aspx
Q43 (talk) 02:26, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Position In Line Of Succession

message: *Had her great grandfather, King George V, not revised Royal styles and titles in 1917 owing to the strong popular anti-German sentiment in Britain during World War I, which eventually persuaded His Majesty and his family to abandon all titles held under the German Crown, and to anglicize all the family's German titles and House names, such as the Royal House of Windsor, which he founded from the British branch of the (German) House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, Lady Gabriella would have been born, however still with an English surname, with the style of HH Princess Gabriella of Kent.
This material is unsourced and of questionable relevance. In accord with a parallel discussion at Talk:Lord Frederick Windsor, I'll delete this in May unless a source can be found to show it's accuracy and relevance.   Will Beback  talk   11:27, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Unsourced and speculative, also very awkward phrasing (describing her relationship to KGV, the fact that he revised the tutles, why he revised the titles, and how he revised the titles, and examples in the one sentence!). Why wait a month? Johannes Pratt (talk) 20:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. I've removed it.   Will Beback  talk   21:29, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: "HH Princess Gabriella of Kent"

message: I have proposed this article for deletion as it does not appear to satisfy WP:GNG. Please contribute to the discussion, if you can (whatever your opinion). The link is at the article itself. All the best, fellow Wikipedians! Emmentalist (talk) 08:54, 26 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal for deletion