Talk:Pack (canine)

message: *Pack (canine) was created this evening as an incomprehensible sub-stub. I added the Social behavior section from Wolf in there to fill it out, but it obviously needs to have its own content. About 10 pages link to Pack (canine), so I think it's worth the effort. Fernando Rizo T/C 06:36, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Wolfpack

message: The article is titled pack (canine) but only seems to be about gray wolves, with an attempt to describe dog behaviour as parallel to gray wolf behaviour. What about the behaviour of the rest of the canines?
The coyote (Canis latrans) and the Simien wolf (Canis simensis) and the gray wolf (Canis lupus) are closely related canids; what about the pack behaviour (if any) of the other two?
What about other wolves? Or foxes, dingoes, jackals, and lycaons? Is their pack behaviour identical to that of the gray wolf? All of the species?
What about habitat? Is the pack behaviour of gray wolves in different habitats the same? (It's not.)
Even if the gray wolf and the dog are genetically nearly identical, can the behaviour of the human-adapted, self-juvenilized domestic dog be compared to that of wild wolf?
But most of all -- where are the citations for the information that is there now? --Hafwyn (talk) 04:56, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  This may be too vast a topic 

message: Looking at where this links, the reason for this article as originally written seems not to be to discuss packs of canines but to discuss outmoded theories of wolf behaviour as applied to domestic dog/human interactions. I will add to the "alpha" section, along with the descriptions of packs of canines, and take out the uncited stuff about wolves.--Hafwyn (talk) 20:05, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Topic of this article... 

message: The usage of wolfpack and wolf pack is under discussion, see Talk:Wolfpack. 184.144.163.181 (talk) 05:03, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Wolfpack

message: Not sure where to start here, but this is the gist of the problem.   New Guinea Singing Dogs are nto pasck animals at all and are not considered as such.  The study group mentioned in this article was actually described as a group, not as a pack.  The NGSD in the study were separated onr from another as necessary so they wouldn't fight.  No one anywhere in the world keeps Singing Dogs in a "pack" and absolutely no studies have been performed on the wild population about which literally nothing is known..  Additionally, when I clicked on the reference, it came up as "can't find this page" so the reference link is no good.  Personally, I feel the NGSD paragraph needs to be deleted.  I will delete it it in 7 days if no one objects.  Oldsingerman20 (talk) 01:33, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have commented it out. I can not find the original reference either, but there are plenty of other papers that pretty much states that they aren't one of the pack-forming canids.-- Obsidi♠n Soul 07:40, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need to make a deletion 

message: "One of the most persistent theories in dog training literature is the idea of the "alpha wolf", an individual gray wolf who uses physical force to enforce dominance hierarchy within the wolf pack."
This doesn't seem to match with anything I've read. From the information I've gathered about wolves, body language is used to assert dominance moreso than physical force. Lowered head, teeth bared, and a couple barks. But if physical force was needed every time than I think we would have many more dead wolves.
Naturaldoubt (talk) 18:08, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dominance and the "alpha" wolf 

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message: It remains unclear why the section "Use in dog training" is included in an article titled "Pack (canine)". It should perhaps be better located under Dog training#Dominance-based training. William Harris • (talk) • 11:57, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dog training? 

message: Pinging the voters of the AfD discussion on Attachment behaviour in wolves, in which merging the content to here was decided. Since the AfD was closed more than two months ago, could someone perhaps have a look at what content should be merged, so that the decision can be implemented? Felix QW (talk) 06:58, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging from [[Attachment behaviour in wolves]]