Talk:The Return of Chef/Archive 1

message: What I just wrote right there played through a scene of the episode where the head of the super adventure club is explaining that they believe when men have sex with boys they become immortal. Um... is there really a real Super Adventure Club, and if so, what the crap?! DurotarLord 02:45, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, consider this episode a "sequel" to Trapped in the Closet. In that episode they mock Scientology, and at the bottom it says "This is what Scientologists actually believe", or something along the lines. It angered Isacc Hayes, and he quit (him being a Scientologist). In this episode, where they turned Chef into somewhat of a bad guy and killed him off, they parody Scientology once more by using the same ridiculous description for an organization's beliefs in the episode - the one difference is that the description given in "Trapped in the Closet" is actually true, and Scientology is a real Religion, whereas the Super Adventure Club is just something that the creators made up. Here, they were just mimicking "Trapped in the Closet", as they felt both Isacc Hayes'  (Scientology) Religion - and Chef's (Super Adventure Club) Religion were both ridiculous, although they made the latter up. So in short, no, it's a fake organisation. Sorry for the huge explination. ≈ The Haunted Angel 10:11, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "This is really what the Super Adventure Club believes" 

message: I added another paragraph to the synopsis.  128.113.137.211 03:46, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled Stuff 

message: "The episode's name possibly refers to the book "The Return of the Naked Chef" by Jamie Oliver."
Uh, that seems unlikely to me.  The character's name is Chef...and he returned in this episode.  Just because there happens to be some random book with the words "return" and "chef" in the title doesn't mean this episode has anything to do with it.  I suggest this trivia entry be removed. King nothing 2 15:38, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questional trivia entry 

message: Hubbard claimed to be well-traveled, but other than two trips to visit his military father, there is very little evidence that he ever traveled outside of America prior to the Second World War.
:No disrespect, but how does that play into this? -Dan 06:11, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The world's greatest explorer shtick.  Hubbard frequently claimed to be an avid explorer and adventurer, but when the rubber met the road his exploits were strictly second-rate, and frequently were things that other people had already done... just like the "world's greatest explorer" who founded the Super Adventure Club. Iceberg3k 11:41, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  L. Ron Hubbard's claimed travels 

message: Was Butters being molested by his uncle influenced by Teri Hatcher, since that was also in the news in the last two weeks? Adam Bishop 08:19, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt it, it seems like pretty standard South Park fare, and there's no real connection. Deathregis 09:19, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Butters 

message: On my tv's program guide, the title of this episode was "The Return of Chef!" with an exclimation mark.  is this official, and should it be included in the article? --Phantom784 14:43, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the official site's episode guide, there is no exclamation mark.  King nothing 2 17:09, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exclimation Mark 

message: Should we try to identify some of Chef's more obscure lines? (I.e. his "goodbye" was from Red Hot Catholic Love, his questions "What is the meaning of life" and "Why are we here?" are from Are You There, God? It's Me, Jesus, and some others that might be hard to pinpoint.) --KennyStanWendyFan 05:25, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chef's Lines 

message: *I'm not sure if wikipedia should link to MrTwig.net, seeing as it is a torrent site and is perhaps not entirely legal.  Any other comment on this?
*Also, when the link is clicked - the page is this:
"You have most likely reached this page because someone linked to content on our site without our permission. Click here to continue to the front page of mrtwig.net.
If you believe you have received this page in error, please mention the circumstances on our forum (you will have to register to post in that forum)"
*Removed --Phantom784 19:55, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mr Twig? 

message: As per Wikipedia's verifiability policies, please refrain from phrases such as "It can be argued" or "This could refer" without citing sources. Otherwise, it falls into the area of original research. Thanks. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 23:59, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unverified content in the Trivia section 

message: There is no mention of the leader of the Super Adventure Club being an obvious parody of Dr Evil from the Austin Powers movies,
as the voice is a close likeness i was also wondering what the chances are that Mike Meyers provided the voice, anyone know?
I think that voice is just the only aristocratic British accent Trey (or Matt?) can do.
:Yeah, but the way he says something like, "You know when you ask people to leave but then they don't. That's very annoying." specifically is extremely similar to Dr. Evil's mannerisms.  Mac OS X 07:43, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dr Evil / Mike Meyers? 

message: Visuals of Homer falling down the cliff, which Chef falling is visually similar to, is not shown in Bart the Daredevil. It was only inserted for So It's Come to This: A Simpsons Clip Show. Somebody keeps reverting that. I know the other one sounds better, but it's inaccurate. -Deathregis 22:49, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Simpson's Parody Fall 

message: The whole joke is that Butters is a guy and yet he said that someone performed cunnilingus on him.  That's the joke!  Stop changing it to analingus or at the very least remove "The joke being" since you've removed the irony.  Look at the flicking tongue motion rather than circular tongue motion.  Look at where the tongue is violating the doll.  It's cunnilingus! Chiok 05:25, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That has to be the most disgusting use of the words "somewhat effective" ever. Mac OS X 07:46, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not gonna deny that.
Mr.troughton 16:29, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  cunnilingus/analingus 

message: The confusion between Adventure club and Super adventure club is features twice. Can that reference the usual confusion (due to similar denominations ) between Christian Science and Scientology? It is interesting to point outh that Scientology is more sectarian and obscure than CS, paralell to the Adventure club(hunting, hiking, kayaking) ant The S.A.C.(has sex with children)
*Yeah, actually, given your proof, that does look pretty likely, although there's always the possibility it's coincidence. Myself, I think that what you've said is true though, it probably is, but I don't think it can be substantiated  enough to be in the article.
Mr.troughton 00:30, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  possibility? 

message: by any chance is S.A.C real.
The practises of the club do have some parallels with those engaged in sex tourism and/or child pornography and the concept of immortality by having sex with children is possibly related to the practise in some parts of aids infected africa of having sex with virgins (usually Children by western definitions - see Common misconceptions about HIV and AIDS) in the belief that this will cure them. Most likely, the South Park creaters just tried to invent the most obscene and disgusting imaginary cult they could, so that they could push the boundries a little further without facing retalliation from any actual group and leaving it up to us to make our own analogies. --JamesTheNumberless 13:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  S.A.C 

message: With all the trivia described in the episode, I wonder if it would be worth pointing out that to cure Chef, the boys bring him to a psychiatrist, who is portrayed as reasonably competent and almost succeeds in curing Chef -- which could be seen as yet another negative reference to the Church of Scientology's beliefs, since the CoS is opposed to psychiatry. --Metropolitan90 07:50, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Psychiatrist 

message: The leader of the super adventure club is named as William P. Connolly and facially bears some amount of resemblance to the Scottish comedian of (almost) the same name (if you discount the lack of a beard). Perhaps some mention should be made of how this character is depicted as being a child molester, while Billy Connolly himself was the victim of molestation as a child? Personally I thought this was distasteful and hurtful even for South Park, but that's just my opinion and I'm not proposing that be included in the article. Belueberry 02:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I applaud you for your well-reasoned and coherent argument as to why South Park now "sucks bawls." -Roofus 00:44, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Billy Connolly 

message: Don.-.J 20:42, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia Entry 2 

message: Is there really a super adventure club? I looked it up on line but only found reference to The Return of Chef? Also i looked in this disscussion article but did not see anything? - --Jay Menglass 00:43, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good lord, I certain hope there isn't.66.173.143.210 15:49, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, consider this episode a "sequel" to Trapped in the Closet. In that episode they mock Scientology, and at the bottom it says "This is what Scientologists actually believe", or something along the lines. It angered Isacc Hayes, and he quit (him being a Scientologist). In this episode, where they turned Chef into somewhat of a bad guy and killed him off, they parody Scientology once more by using the same ridiculous description for an organization's beliefs in the episode - the one difference is that the description given in "Trapped in the Closet" is actually true, and Scientology is a real Religion, whereas the Super Adventure Club is just something that the creators made up. Here, they were just mimicking "Trapped in the Closet", as they felt both Isacc Hayes'  (Scientology) Religion - and Chef's (Super Adventure Club) Religion were both ridiculous, although they made the latter up. So in short, no, it's a fake organisation. Sorry for the huge explination. ≈ The Haunted Angel 10:11, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The real super adventure club 

message: I am proposing that the article Spin Blossom Nut Squash be merged into this article, as it hardly seems notable enough for an article of its own. We really don't need articles about plot devices. Vgranucci 04:54, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spin Blossom Nut Squash 

message: Quid enim videatur ei magnum in rebus humanis, cui aeternitas omnis totiusque mundi nota sit magnitudo? 
this is written under the map in the super adventure club...is it useful? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.140.19.113 (talk • contribs) 
:I doubt it, but if anyone could find out what it means, it'd certainly be interesting. ≈ The Haunted Angel 01:15, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: At the top of the page, it says Chef's voice was done by an impersonator, but the rest of the article states that clips were actually spliced together from previous episodes. Which one is it? Prezuiwf 17:07, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That info was false. I removed it from the article.--Swellman 04:49, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Impersonator? 

message: Don't you think that the pic is a little spoiled? I mean it shows that Chef dies... shouldn't it change for people who did not know of Chef's death? I see how this could be pointless with how most fans would already know, but I still see this as spoiling...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.218.162.183 (talk) 01:25, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode Pic. 

message: How do you set up a redirect? Searching for fruity little club should land here, if not on Scientology's main article Jtdunlop (talk) 08:15, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fruity Little Club 

message: Chef dying on the bridge is an allusion to "the bridge" of scientology.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by TCO (talk • contribs) 00:08, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  the burning bridge 

message: my thought is that this episode was created VERY quickly and was actually one of my favorite episodes.  is there any word on whether they had the basics of this episode already worked out in the event that isaac quit?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yourmanstan (talk • contribs) 15:46, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  creation of the episode 

message: Do we really need such a drastic picture? Lots42 (talk) 03:29, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The pic. 

message: I know its not too huge, but i've seen little trivia sections on other SP episode pages and thought that it should be mentioned that at the funeral Terrence & Phillip can be seen mourning but Terrence isn't fat like he should be (from the Behind the Blow episode onwards he's fat) he's fat in his last appearance (which i think was behind the blow) and after this episode the next time he's featured is Cartoon Wars pt2 where he's fat once again. Maybe Stone and Parker forgot this when they made the episode as they were focusing on Hayes leaving too much?
Bm2 (talk) 21:01, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Got a secondary source for this info? Otherwise it is a WP:OR violation to add it to the article.  Cirt (talk) 21:05, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: Mention ought definitely to be made of this and the confusion and controversy that it sparked. Crusoe (talk) 13:58, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hayes's stroke 

message: Ther is actually a band called "Super Adventure Club".
Maybe that could be mentioned in a sentence or two.
88.73.101.60 (talk) 03:26, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I noticed something.. 

message: Was there a sequel made? If so, what's it called?JIMfoamy1 (talk) 01:12, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sequel? 

message: Is there really a super adventure club that believes that stuff, or was the "THIS IS WHAT THE SUPER ADVENTURE CLUB ACTUALLY BELIEVES" gag just south park making fun of its own gag about scientology?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.28.114.53 (talk) 03:52, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real? 

message: The Plot subsection has been tagged with , and I would agree it is a bit too long. Anyone care to help out in trimming it down a bit so we can remove the  tag? Cirt (talk) 03:20, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot 

message: while i realize it may be obvious to followers of the series and those otherwise knowledgeable about the episode, should there be mention made that none of the things chef says in the episode was newly recorded, and all from previous episodes?  this reuse of voices is hinted at when he regains his memory and remembers the whole "make love" phrase, but that's still rather implicit.  also, was the above scientology debate ever actually concluded without the random people interjecting?  Impasse 02:08, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:RS/WP:V source discussing this? Cirt (talk) 02:10, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voicing 

message: Thanks to the idiot who posted the current picture of him being torn to pieces. Total spoilers and should be removed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.114.52.189 (talk) 08:55, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is a spoiler in itself, what else should be expected from the article on the episode? Alastairward (talk) 15:37, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoilers 

message: Substituted at 15:57, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Something should be mentioned about the closing credits.  The phrase "This is what the Super Adventure Club actually believes."  This ia a variant of "This is what Scientologist actually believe."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.97.227.185 (talk) 04:45, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Closing Credits 

message: There should at least be a section about the final speech, directly paralleling Chef with Isaac Hayes as Stan states that they should remember Chef for the person they knew and direct their anger at the "fruity little club that scrambled his brains".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2407:7000:9C8E:EC00:A1A5:5E50:9858:E980 (talk) 12:16, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flesh out summary