Talk:Masamune

message: :I removed ( deleted ) vandalism to the article that read and I quote "In 1999, it has been told by Square Enix that the great Sephiroth possessed the masamune, however upon his defeat to Cloud Strife in the major end battle, the masamune was once again lost and could not be found. Sephiroth resurrects from the dead in 2005 along with the masamune, however due to the heroic Cloud Strife, Sephiroth was once again annihilated and the sword is now forever lost." JadeTora (talk) 10:13, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Reverted Vandalism

message: I quote this section-
"Masamune studied under Kunimitsu and made blades in suguha but he made magnificient notare hamon which has never been found in Kunimitsu's. There are also some blades with ko-midare which appears to have been copied from the Old Bizen and Hoki styles. His works are well characterized by rich chikei and kinsuji, and beautiful nie. Swords created by Masamune often are referred to with the smith's name (much the same way that other pieces of artwork are), often with a name for the individual sword as well. The Honjo Masamune, a symbol of the Tokugawa shogunate and passed down from one shogun to another, is perhaps the best known Masamune sword."
Terms like Suguha, notare hamon, ko-midare, chikei, kinsuji, and so on, need clarification or definition for non-experts like myself.  I know very little about sword making, so those terms are simply confusing for someone not familiar with it.  Can someone who knows this stuff fix up that section?  Errick 01:02, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foreign terms need clarification 

message: Near the end of the article it mentions that Masamune lived in a peaceful age in Japanese history, which is false.  The late Kamakura and Nambokucho were times of intense civil war, first against the Hojo regents and then between the Northern and Southern Imperial Courts.  The fact that many of his blades are cut-down no-dachi swords meant exclusively for war and useless for civillian wear in a peaceful age attests to this. Kensai Max 15:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factual Inaccuracies 

message: Hi anyone whos reading this article might find this interesting, go down to a message from Christopher. I don't doubt what hes saying although it would be nice to know how he knows hes "verified and authentic". I might try and contact him and see what info I can dig up. Its certinatly an interesting line of enquiry dont you think! -- Shimirel (Talk) 00:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have verified the information "and his descendants still live in the Kamakura city"iwakuni-art-museum.org -- Shimirel (Talk) 01:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  https://goo.gl/maps/fSYp6HZiT37V8Qg46 Jcollmart (talk) 17:38, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Masamune family today 

message: It says in this article that Muramasa dated his swords, and was working right around 1500.  But the birthdate listed for him in the article Senzo Muramasa (should be Muramasa Senzo), is given as 1341: a little late, but not 200 years late, to have been Masamune's pupil.  He founded a smithing style, though; is it possible that the Muramasa sword that dated to 1500 was simply a sword in the Muramasa style?Also, are we sure the dates have all been converted properly?  Aside from the different dating conventions, lunar years don't map, one-to-one, onto Gregorian.  Nagakura shin8 10:48, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sure about Muramasa? 

message: I replaced the "Lords" with the full names of the period's most notorious people of that name and fixed the broken sentences based on the cited source, but the data cannot be accurate as given. In 1601, when Hidetsune is supposed to have bought the sword, he was already dead, as was Maeda Toshiie, who was also an arch-rival of Tokugawa Ieyasu and thus unlikely to receive costly gifts from him.--Brazzy 20:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Errors in Fudo Masamune paragraph 

message: ..why is the page title his last name only, instead of his full name? 66.63.86.156 (talk) 19:32, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the title of the page is his first name: "Masamune"...184.155.130.147 (talk) 16:12, 3 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  If his name is Masamune Okazaki... 

message: The article claims Masamune manufactured katanas. But I'm given to understand katanas as such did not exist during the time in which he was alive. Would it be more accurate to say he manufactured tachis or uchigatanas? --Nivenus (talk) 23:27, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Erm, naginata are spears, yes? I thought Masamune just did swords. Suigetsu 19:57, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Katanas? 

message: I deleted the "helmet breaker" that was listed here as a Masamune. There are only three or maybe four legitimate examples of this swordsmith's signature, and they are all in the same form: Kamakura tanto. The style that this helmet breaker is signed in is a late Edo period style, it uses grass script which was not used in the Kamakura or Nanbokucho periods by anyone. Understand that this is the equivalent of showing a painting that has a signature of "van Gogh" on it, and then taking a picture of it and putting it up as a wikipedia reference for people. Without proper authentication and attribution of a work, it is not a reference example to be shown in an encyclopedia, it is a curiosity. Given the fact that swords by this swordsmith start at a price of about $350,000 and go up, there is a financial benefit to people who might want to claim their item was authored by this smith. Nobody should be putting up any links or images of works that have not been authenticated by highly regarded experts in the field as a result.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.222.117 (talk) 20:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Helmet Breaker 

message: This name is at best a fabrication, very little is actually known about Masamune the man. I am deleting it's listing in the main article as "fact", especially since the citation used is a link to an online chat forum where someone makes the statement "his name is Okazaki." That does not meet the guidelines for a reference worth citing. I am replacing the "factual" mention with a reference to the name as one of the old stories with no known basis.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.222.117 (talk) 20:13, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Okazaki 

message: should it be noted the apperances of the Masamune in the final fantasy series?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.78.8.102 (talk) 15:15, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The description for Chrono Trigger is wrong. Masa and Mune do first appear as two boys but it's very quickly revealed that they are the spirit(s) of a legendary sword called the Masamune. (You first hear about the sword as simply a weapon, go to claim it and are confronted by the children who then turn into something resembling the fiends from other parts of the game. Once they're defeated they allow you to take the sword and refer to it as a part of themselves, simply calling it 'us'.) I'd edit the article but I haven't played Chrono Cross and have no idea if the two boys are the same in that game, I don't want to unnecessarily split the description or make one of them wrong. 82.68.159.246 (talk) 11:34, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  in modern culture 

message: The article says that Muramasa's sword was called "Juuchi Yosamu", and then in Japanese writes what would normally be transliterated as "ichiman tsumetai yoru". The number I can imagine really being 十 (jyuu, 10) 千 (chi, thousand), possibly being an archaic way to write 10,000, but the rest doesn't line up. Yosamu would be written 夜寒, and does mean "cold night". 冷たい夜 also means "cold night" but can't be pronounced as "yosamu".
99.247.248.73 (talk) 17:54, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange transliteration 

message: I'm killing references to the Final Fantasy fansite and replacing them (as needed) with WP:FACT until I can try to replace them with something legitimate on Monday.    The currently linked webpage is referenced several times where a reference probably isn't needed (beginning of sentence, name of a sword), and is not itself reference material.  The only given source for the material on the site being edited out is Jim Kurrasch, who apparently made font glyphs in the 90s for various characters found on swords, but is unfortunately no longer alive.  I cannot find external references to the material.   EyeExplore (talk) 10:56, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing References 

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message: Do any of Masamune's swords still exist? The article does not make it clear.45.46.243.102 (talk) 15:56, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
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message: This sword is in Chrono 68.225.55.118 (talk) 17:08, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chrono