Talk:Fumblerooski

message: The Bobby Dodd page that I just referred to this page has a documented use of this play at the college level in the 1930 Florida-Tennessee game, and states that Dodd had previously run the play in high school.  The play was not called the "fumblerooski" -- most likely, the term did not exist at the time -- but from the write-up, it's clear that this is the same play, so I added the link.  The cited 1933 reference in this article appears to be in error: the Dodd article suggests that it was known and used at the high school level at least as early as the 1920s. Nusumareta (talk) 17:01, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: In 1930

message: The Fumblerooski play was invented long before Tom Osborne was coaching at Nebraska. The play was first used by the Greenville High School Lions in the Texas Football Championship in 1935.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jkeithbrown (talk • contribs) 15:33, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: In 1935

message: I'm pretty sure Bo Schembechler used this play at least once in a Michigan-Ohio State game. Guanxi 21:10, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Used by Bo Schembechler in Michigan - Ohio State 

message: :A new variation of the fumblerooski was run by the University of Arkansas Razorbacks on October 7, 2006: the then-unranked Razorbacks used the trick play in their upset of the #2 ranked Auburn Tigers.[5] The smallest Razorback player—5’7” Reggie Fish—hid behind the line, out of sight of the Auburn defense, and the center handed him the ball by a direct snap as the QB ran a fake play. This was the first time a play like this had appeared in major college football.
If the key to the play is the intentional fumble by the QB so that an otherwise ineligible player can pick up the ball (I think that's the point of the "fumble", isn't it? This should be explained in the lead paragraph[s]) - if that's the main element of the play, how does a direct snap to a small player (assummedly an eligible one) which involves no intentional fumble a "modern version" of this play?
I see that the reference given mentions a modern version of the fumblerooski, but it doesn't explain the play. The explaination given here does not explain how the play in that game is related to the fumblerooski in any way. TheHYPO (talk) 01:46, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "modern version"? 

message: As TheHYPO mentioned almost 10 years ago, the main distinguishing feature of a fumblerooski is that the football is secretly placed on the ground, hence the "fumble" part of the name. Clever offensive minds continue to come up new variations of the hidden ball trick, unexpected direct snaps, and many other trick plays designed to deceive the defense. However, if the ball is not intentionally placed on the turf, then it's not a fumblerooski, and the play should not be included in this article. Zeng8r (talk) 12:42, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: New additions

message: The article states (without a reference) that the play is "not allowed" in the NFL. But the play was used in the 2009 Pro Bowl by the AFC team. Of course, I don't know if there's special rules that can be bent in the All-star game, but can someone verify that it isn't allowed? Wikipedian64 (talk) 18:02, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I am adding a source to confirm it being a against the rules.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by JEMZ1995 (talk • contribs) 04:25, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Not Allowed?

message: This article seems to contradict itself.  In the lede, it is stated the the Fumblerooski was famously used in 1984 between Nebraska and Miami, but under "See Also" the Holy Roller is included--a play the happened several years before 1984.  The lede should reflect that the Holy Roller is the earliest version to be famous.67.169.25.132 (talk) 04:12, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famously used in 1984?