Talk:Shaykh Ahmad

message: It wasn't that bad, I just thought you downplayed the Bab by making him a reformer and putting him on an equal level with some guy from Kirman that really did nothing. That's exactly what I would expect Maulana to do. As far as academics, Maulana and The Dawnbreakers are opposite extremes, and you were leaning toward Maulana.
I think we should mention that 6 million people consider Shaykh Ahmad as part of their spiritual heritage. It sets him apart from just some no-name Arab guy from 2 centuries ago. Cunado19 00:09, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah I see your point, but its not cuz of Maulana. He has a single mention of this character, but I think its important to mention him. The Dawnbreakers however has little on pre-Ali-Muhammad shaykhism unlike Maulana. I was trying to word it that the Bab had a real impact on mid 19th century Persia with its radical/revolutionary nature (how often do sects take up arms against a whole country?). Anyway, its not much different now so I'm quite happy. -- Tomhab 19:58, 26 July 2005 (UTC)

text: Is this before or after your wiki-break? ;) -- Tomhab 21:28, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Maulana

message: Hey all.  I just did a medium-ish rewrite of several pieces, mostly within Succession, as well as did more referencing.  I converted the Cole references and spread specific Nabil references throughout various areas of the text.  I'd love it if we had other sources that could balance Nabil (see above conversation), but at least it's verifiable source material. --Christian Edward Gruber 21:27, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I went way further than I had originally intended, but hey.  I have some referencing to do, and some improvement/expansion on the text, but this is starting to look like a real article. :)  --Christian Edward Gruber 23:36, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice work Christian, the article is much better now. -- Jeff3000 01:55, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Jeffeezy (small ATHF reference, if you're in the know).  It still needs work, but it's getting there.  I wish the english site that has lots of Shaykh Ahmad's stuff on it were actually more than a stub, 'cause the Arabic site seems like it has tons of material.  Being limited to Nabil, Cole, and a few others (as good as they all are) is really frustrating.  --Christian Edward Gruber 02:22, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Work in references plus rewrite for clarity 

message: Cunado, my minor change had nothing to do with Baha'i spelling conventions.  Shi'a or Shi'ah is a collective noun meaning, in CNN terms, "the Shi'ites" (it can also of course have a more general meaning, "the partisans," "the followers").  Shi'i (but never Shi'ih, as there's no ta marbuta or ha'  here) is an adjective meaning "Shi'itic" and a noun for a single member of the Shi'a.  Ahmad al-Ahsa'i's movement was Shi'i, i.e. it was Shi'itic in character.  Masarra 22:03, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the clarification. I know that Shoghi Effendi transliterated ta marbuta endings as "ih" when they are normally "ah" due to the Isfahani accent that he came from. Example: Tahirih instead of Tahirah. I thought this was the issue, and I was trying to correct it. Cuñado  - Talk 00:28, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shi'i, Shi'a etc. 

message: I followed the link to Iranica, and they seem to have removed the article on Shaykh Ahmad (unless I am particularly obtuse today). J S Ayer (talk) 00:58, 14 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gone from Iranica 

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