Talk:Triforce

message: It has been a subject of dispute whether or not the Triforce is an inanimate object that cannot distinguish good from evil, or if it is a living entity, as depicted in the end of A Link to the Past.
I think this needs to be edited, as the only time the Triforce was ever called an inanimate object was in the manual of LttP, the same game to include the living essence of the Triforce. This was actually a poor translation, as Zelda Legends tells us with the original text:
The Triforce itself cannot judge between good and evil. That is because only the gods can do that.
With no mention of an inanimate object. I think it's fair to say that this is what Nintendo intended, and not just speculation.
:The games mention the "essence of the Triforce".  We know the Triforce was formed by the Gods for the express use of anyone who would wish anything of it, be it good or evil.  Though the Triforce itself is not a living thing, it does have some semblance of a mind, or at least the ability to channel the voice of the goddesses, as is manifest in several games.  But the Triforce does not judge between good and evil, whether it has that ability or not.Cocoapropo 03:24, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Triforce not inanimate

message: I don't believe there is much evidence to suggest that each Triforce is "passed down" to each new Link/Zelda/Ganon. That would imply that each game is chronologically related to one another, which is nothing but fan speculation. The article should reflect what is known from the game and other canon material, not speculation. - Gazuga
:I agree. I'm going to remove the speculation portions of this article if I don't receive objections. --Pagrashtak 02:26, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed. --Pagrashtak 03:13, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Triforce Passed Down?

message: If anyone can elaborate on ALL 3 aspects of the Triforce, this article would be very effective. Or how the three goddesses created it. THanks —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dmfarias07 (talk • contribs) .
:I don't think there's much that could be added without original research. --Pagrashtak 03:37, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Courage and Wisdom?

message: In The Wind Waker, it is stated that the Hero of Time broke the Triforce of courage into eight pieces and hid them throughout Hyrule, to be recovered one day by another Hero deserving of its power (in this case, the Link from The Wind Waker).
Really? I'm pretty sure the KoRL said that when the Hero of Time left on another adventure(Majora's Mask presumably), he was seperated from the Triforce of Courage. He doesn't say that the Hero broke it himself. 
...Or does he? My memory of WW isn't exactly the best. So does anyone know exactly what he said?
And I don't think that, "to be recovered by another hero" stuff is really necessary.Barad-Dûr 7:30, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm...This is a tough one. Since they both say different statements, one cannot be sure of the outcome of the Triforce of Courage. I can remeber the KoRL saying that he 'left it behinds to go on another adventure', but I can't remember the first statement. Any details on where it is seen? YazzaMatazza 12:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Triforce Shards 

message: Why does a page that is on a game have this tag on it? What sources would be cited? The game is already mentioned. This makes no sense to me. D. F. Schmidt 04:35, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The references section should have a list of all the sources which had been used to create the article. In other words, name of the games, publisher and year of distribution. -- ReyBrujo 12:18, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Aren't they all suitably mentioned? What seems to be amiss? The publisher should be evident if not mentioned. But "Triforce" is just a concept from the games. If the games aren't linked, they should be, but nothing more is necessary, as far as I can imagine. And if the games are linked, there's no need to state what year the games came out and so on. You can just look at the game's page. It's not like this is a science project or anything. D. F. Schmidt 06:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Although they are just guidelines, all articles should strive for the same standards of quality. There is no difference between the science project and the computer & video games project, and I'm not sure why you're seeing one. (besides the slightly different style used in fiction articles) That said, I'm not sure why it needs a references notice either. The "References" section should be renamed. --70.142.40.34 07:32, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  the use of [[Template:Unreferenced]] 

message: This article seems to only describe the triforce's role in Ocarina of Time and The Wind Waker.
Since there isn't a single continuity running through the Zelda series, there's no reason why these games should be considered more important or more canonical. Can anyone help flesh out the history section so as to include the continuities of the other games? Digital Watches
:There are three obvious problems that I can see with giving equal weight to the games:
:#The early games hardly feature the Triforce: it is simply a plot device. (In the original, the player assembles the Triforce of Wisdom, in AoL, the Triforce of Courage is awakened. No other mention is made of it.)
:#In other, later games, the Triforce is absent, or plays a minor rôle (In Oracle of Seasons and Oracle of Ages, the Triforce sends Link on a quest, and is not mentioned at all afterward.)
:#Some games have backstory, but it is far more detailed in other games (In ALttP, Ganon appears (at the end, at least) to hold the full Triforce, which speaks to Link at the end, but OoT has far more detail, and TWW is the only game to feature the Triforce being fought over directly throughout.)
:You may think that different Triforces are featured in each game. There is much evidence to the contrary, however: there are no large discrepancies between games, so Occam's Razor would suggest that they are the same. Setokaiba✌≝ 09:21, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I can see how it's only fair that games with less mention of it are less extensively covered here. However, it seems as though OOT's popularity has given it an unwarranted position of the "Real continuity," where it seems as though the games were intended as separate stories in many cases. However, I think that it's not quite Occam's Razor material, since as the games can't be considered to have a single continuity by any means, the triforce can be assumed to be different. Digital Watches 09:29, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  We need a more balanced perspective. 

message: Some mentioned Dark Link in the Other Appearances section of the article, in which Dark Link is not an obtainable character in SSBM. I read it earlier and got a little excited, then checked and have found out he's not a character (costume change doesn't count). So I removed his name from the article.Watemon 06:21, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Small Edit

message: Should someone edit in a small bit about where the Triforce of Power, Wisom and Courage are? Power is at the top, Wisdom is on the left and Courage on the right, yes? --Garfunkle20 21:23, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Position's of the Triforce

message: Am I the only one who sees a parralel between the godesses and the Trinity? I.E. one godess created the world, one gave life to the world, and one maintaned order and balance.
Wikiwarlock 21:54, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Naturally you are not the only person who sees this parallel.  It has caught my attention several times, and I have commented about it to friends.  Even moreso, of course, the three virtues of "Power, Wisdom, and Courage" are eerily close to the nature of the Three Persons of the Trinity.  Still, most Christians probably ignore it because it is a reference in a video game, and likely was not intentional on Nintendo's part.  --TheTriumvir 18:12, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bear in mind also that the Trinity of Christianity is not the only such pantheon. Consider for instance the Trimurti, the Hindu trinity of creation, maintenance and destruction, and the various feminine trinities dotted throughout European pagan cultures. The idea of a triumvirate of deities is not an exclusively Christian notion.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.29.168 (talk) 00:32, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also consider that, in Japan, Christianity is relatively uncommon and mysterious, which means that it's unlikely that the people making the game even knew what the trinity was.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.45.16.206 (talk) 06:54, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Japanese don't live in a cave.  There's no reason to assume that.  King Zeal  —Preceding unsigned comment added by King Zeal (talk • contribs) 10:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

text: ....mmm, Japan is quite familiar with Christianity, even if they are not a very Christian nation. Nobunaga was gaga for the Jesuit order, and there was a major Christian influence during the time of Tokugawa and afterwards - their entrance to the west. And being  considered "exotic" would only make it more likely to be purposeful - for example, I can't see the Irish feel of the Kokiri or the Aztec feel of the Fire Temple (not original version) being accidental.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 21:22, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Goddesses

message: The article mentions that 'some fans believe that their are four pieces of the triforce which they have dubbed the "tetraforce".' - this doesn't cite any sources, but after googling 'tetraforce' I found a fan-made website with his theory on it. Would putting this in as a source for the above statement be OK, or would it constitute original research? Richard Jackson 17:26, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is just speculation by crazed, rabid fanboys. ;)  I think we can safely leave it out of this article.~e.o.t.d~ 08:23, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, that is little to no chance that the site would pass WP:V or WP:RS. --70.48.172.8 19:34, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tetraforce?

message: I remember seeing a Zelda comic (published by the same people who do Prince Valiant if I am correct) in which during an attempt to recover an important Hyrulian item Ganon stole, Link manages to take hold of the Triforce of Power - and started to behave more and more like Ganon - even taking on a piggish look. 
Zelda adomishes him (and the Triforce of Courage fled from Link to her) - declaring he's letting it corrupt him, and that without Wisdom, Power was evil or something like that. I think it means the item should only be used with all of it together. 
Though, I'm pretty sure the story is wholly non-canonical, but I think it should be mentioned. --65.103.135.109 00:13, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I remember it being said in one of the games (Ocarina of Time, I believe, though it could have been A Link to the Past) that much of Ganon's power stemmed from the fact that, without the balacing effects of the other two pieces, the Triforce of Power had gone out of control.  Confirmation?~e.o.t.d~ 08:23, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  That isn't actually imply that the Triforce made him turn evil - he was already so.KrytenKoro 19:32, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Triforce Imbalance 

message: I was just wondering if anyone could tell me why the Triforce is inverted on the doors of peoples houses in "Wind Waker". I've only played the beginning of the game so I don't know if it has any significance.-Leandreamo
:It was never mentioned in the game.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 03:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering how the Triforce symbol was also blended with the Sheikiah symbol, I'd say it's a result of the garbling of legends. Toomai Glittershine 20:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inverted Triforce 

message: I have a small theory here on the Triforce The Triforce could in fact be four pieces. If you look at the Hylian shield from OOT and TP there is a bird that looks like it is carrying a piece of The Triforce. That is but the first part of my theory. The next part is who owns said triforce piece. My best guess is Midna. The fourth piece could be called the Triforce of Twilight or something thus showing the connection between the Two worlds. THIS IS JUST A THEORY OF MINE IT MAY OR MAY NOT BE FACT!!  Hero_Of_Hyrule
:Talk pages are for discussing articles, not the subject they represent. Vimescarrot 11:59, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh, you're a bit late... Haipa Doragon (talk) 09:53, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Triforce Theory

message: I was under the impression that it split not because of some misalignment of one's attributes, but merely because Ganondorf was evil. (Sounds like a reasonable self-defence mechanism to me...) Just thought I'd have this noted. I could easily be wrong. Vimescarrot 12:01, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why the Triforce split (OoT) 

message: In Twilight Princess, Ganondorf's Triforce of Power fades and appears several times... its fading at the end does not necessarily mean the loss of it entirely, but more likely a temporary weakening from the master sword, similar to in Ocarina of Time, when the master sword was only able to stun Ganon long enough for him to be sealed in the Sacred Realm.
I think it is safe to assume Ganon's triforce cannot simply disappear, nor did it in TP.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.81.233.191 (talk • contribs).
:Also, Link's triforce symbol fades too (with the exact same sound effect, I believe) right after he first turns into a wolf, and there's nothing to suggest that he lost the Triforce of Courage then (although I don't think you can see his bare hand after that point...) DGemmell 22:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ganondorf

message: ::"in The Legend of Zelda television series"
I removed this part, because the TV series is not canon. Otherwise neither could we say Link never talks because he does so in the tv series.
Furthermore, I added the oracle games, since it is the Triforce that calls Link in the beginning of the game, and sends him on his mission. JackSparrow Ninja 01:31, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Living entity as depicted... 

message: Sorry but the Triforce isnt a fictional sign and not invented by Nintendo. Its an old Japanese Family Crest of the Hojo Family. Please write that down somewhere! Its much older than Nintendo and has nothing to do with them. They just used it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.191.220.155 (talk • contribs) 16:07, 12 March 2007
:"The shape of the Triforce is based on the mon symbol of the Japanese Hōjō clan, which is said to represent the three scales of a Shinto dragon. Its design also resembles a level 2 Sierpiński gasket."
:Please read before you post ;-) JackSparrow Ninja 15:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a slippery slope you're dealing with.  Better to say that nothing should be included unless there's a reasonable explanation as to why said triangle is a homage to the Triforce.  Just adding golden triangles for the heck of it won't achieve much.  King Zeal 12:36, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's not from Nintendo! 

message: This article was vandalized.  Someone fix it!  —The preceding comment is by 24.131.16.112 (talk • contribs) 22:36, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Ppk01 10:48, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: VANDALIZED

message: As an addition to the "popular references" there is to mention Starcom "the US Space Force" where the evil guys wore a triforce upside down on their chest like to be seen here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/5d/Dark%27s_Robots.JPG
And as far as i remember the design of the original Battlestar Galactica Rank Insignia incorporated a similar triangle pattern but composing from more than 4 triangles (and was in turn based on some more exotic/obscure US medical Service Insiginiae from WWII...) --145.254.104.219 21:47, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  StarCom 

message: This whole section is just speculation, original research, and downright bull****, so I'm deleting it. For godsake, it's called the TRIforce. The middle section is just so that the three triangles touch each other, otherwise it would look like a trapezoid. Even if you disagree about it's existance, its still original research. JDub90 01:16, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Although I've never heard of any such fourth triforce, and I agree with your conclusion, I'm going to have to call your reasoning that it's called the triforce because there are three flawed.  Originally, there were only two, and it was still called the TRIforce, not because they had three parts, but because each part had three corners (triangle + force = triforce).  In the first game, only two triforces were known to exist (only two officially existed) and the third one wasn't discovered until the sequel.  Had the sequel never been made, officially there would have always been only two.  This is why your logic is flawed.  Of course, this is also part of the reason there are very few games that are within the same canon as other games within the franchise, but that's a whole other argument.50.130.11.182 (talk) 08:27, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fourth Triforce 

message: Should the Rushton Triangular Lodge be mentioned since it has Triforce design windows? --Charlie Huang 【遯卋山人】 11:39, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rushton Triangular Lodge 

message: Mitsu Uroko. Coincidence? :Image:Mitsuuroko.svg --201.11.133.204 19:00, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Triforce similar

message: Shouldn't there be a list of where else the Triforce has been depicted? As such I intend to get a tattoo of it on my own right hand as depicted in each OOT and TP. And I remember seeing a triforce on Kevin Perrera's Halo costume when he was interview the characters of Red vs Blue, the two bottom pieces were dark red, nearly brown, and the top one was a bold green.
Think we can add Trivia to the artice? I would love a reason to show off the tattoo when I get it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.88.86.186 (talk) 04:56, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Trivia sections are not usually notable. A list of designs similar to the Triforce was recently deleted, on the grounds that the Triforce is not the first use of a Sierpinski triangle, and others should not be compared to it as if it were. --Herald Alberich 05:07, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My intent was to show the reference of the Triforce, not that particular design of the triangle. There can be references to the Triforce without direct references to Sierpinski, as explainned by the tattoo I'm wanting to attain. I'm not getting it to represent how many triangles I can fit into one another, just to show the affiliation towards the Legend of Zelda series. That's the trivia I'm interested in starting; reference directly to the Triforce of the Legend of Zelda series. BH - 12:20pm 9-25-07  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.157.110.12 (talk) 17:22, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, you're talking about something like "References to the Triforce in popular culture" ... well, there's precedent for that in other video game articles, but I don't know if it's a really good precedent to follow. Trivia sections in general are usually to be avoided; see WP:TRIVIA. And we certainly shouldn't add it solely for the sake of showing off your tattoo; that's what Photobucket and blogs are for. Wikipedia is not a blog. --Herald Alberich 21:00, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Triforce Trivia 

message: Can someone add a confirmed source or sources for this paragraph?  None of this information sounds familiar, except for the "unclear" part.  Thanks.  "It is unclear what benefits the Triforce of Courage affords its user, but it has been confirmed that each segment of the Triforce gives its wielder "true power". The holder of the Triforce of Courage is imbued with Farore's essence, and afforded attributes analogous to those of the Goddess of Courage herself. For instance, Farore's essence amplifies Link's already remarkable courage."Cocoapropo 03:12, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That conclusion is speculatory.  And also, I don't see what that has to do with the question posed above. King Zeal 15:04, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: Is fan-art really acceptable? In all my battles with the fair-use patrol, its always seemed that fan-art is just as bad, if not worse, than "official art".Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 21:25, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fan art of a copyrighted character, item, or other concept wouldn't be allowed, if I understand the conventions correctly, but as established here, the Triforce design is not under copyright. --Herald Alberich 02:08, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: I've noticed something. In a lot of the Japanese Triforce related material, like T-Shirts and the Nintendo Store Pin and such, the 3 pieces are aligned differently than how we usually see them. They use the Japanese Kanji for each piece (power, wisdom, courage) except wisdom is at the top, power is on the right, and courage is on the left. Where as if you rotated it counter-clockwise by one rotation it'd be the 'normal' way we are used to seeing it.
Is there any in depth clarification on this? Is the Triforce aligned differently in Japanese Media compared to American Media?--72.65.194.113 (talk) 22:30, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Triforce Japan vs. America

message: Am I the only one who sees a coincidence between this and the Lake Trio from Pokemon (Uxie, Mesprit, and Azelf), who represent Knowledge, Emotion, and Willpower? Or is the connection obvious? Because I'm sure that they might be common "elements" of the human psyche, but I haven't seen anything relating to it.Leprechaun Gamer (talk) 04:06, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Power, Wisdom, and Courage? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:LINK SPECIAL.jpg

message: I think that there should be a new section under 'Other Appearances' about the November 2006 'hack' of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, which has a connection with the triforce. My only concern is that this isn't significant enough to be included.
-CorpseJester (talk) 03:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Other Appearances: MIT Hacks

message: I've moved Hyrule to Universe of The Legend of Zelda series, and am considering merging this into that as an "artifact of the series' universe". Comments? - A Link to the Past (talk) 04:06, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that merge had already been discussed, and though I was one of those supporting it, few others seemed to agree. There's a draft at User:KrytenKoro/Universe of The Legend of Zelda series, which includes my rewrite of the Triforce section. I wouldn't be too hasty to merge, though, since there is previous discussion about this. Try to write up a sandbox version of a merged page first, to see if the others will be convinced this time.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 23:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody's replied to this in over two months, and since we both agree, I'm going to go ahead and merge this article to the Universe one, using my draft.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 18:05, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge? 

message: Thought I'd comment. Many years ago, Nintendo released an Adventures of Link comic. I don't recall what publication it was in, though I believe they published it either in or with Nintendo Power magazine, though it could have been elsewhere. I do know that it was an official Nintendo-licensed comic. 
A link to scans of the comic can be found here: http://www.zeldalegends.net/index.php?n=manga . Perhaps someone can form them into a suitable Wikipedia addition? I'm not particularly good at that sort of thing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.148.198.126 (talk) 16:55, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zelda Comic 

message: Hello! I don't have an account, so I can't change anything. But the Triforce is based off of the Hojo Clan family symbol, which is supposed to be three Shinto dragon scales, ect. Shigeru Miyamoto is from the same city/vicinity where the clan was located. Look up the Hojo clan and you'll see what I mean. I know that this used to be on the page and is even talked about on this page, but it was removed. I think it should be added back in, as lots of people are under the misapprehension that Nintendo created the symbol. If I'm wrong or it is on this page, then sorry. Hope I've been of help!
-Peaches732  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.252.253.31 (talk) 02:06, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Hojo clan didn't invent it either, if that's what you're getting at. It's a fairly common symbol. However, it would be completely dishonest to claim that the Triforce is based on the Hojo clan symbol without any proof. Just because two things are similar, doesn't mean one's based on the either. Look at convergent evolution for a real-world example.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 15:03, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hojo Clan/Triforce 

message: In ultima there are 8 virtues based on combinations(!) of 3 "forces" : love, courage, truth. It might had some influence on Zelda.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.16.123.194 (talk) 12:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems a bit too vague to be true, and you'd need a reliable source before anything can be included. Haipa Doragon • (contributions) 14:24, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Richard Garriott stated that truth, love, and courage for his series came from the Wizard of Oz.  Dream Focus 10:00, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  related ULTIMA? 

message: There's a thing on 4chan where people "triforce".  It's a pretty big thing on the /b/ board.  What happens is that you use the triangle text characters to make a "triforce", but because of the board formatting, you have to use blank text characters instead of spaces so it spaces correctly.  It's a pretty big thing, although I'm not sure if it's notable enough to be mentioned in the "usage outside of videogames" section. 208.107.165.51 (talk) 20:47, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  4chan reference 

message: In Skyward Sword, Link manages to get the Triforce and use it to destroy Demise? Why is there no info about this? --200.84.255.80 (talk) 22:51, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why no SS info? 

message: Some of the information in this section is suspect. The article suggests that Faron is an alternate name for Farore, but this is simply not true - the name Faron has only ever been used in reference to a geographical province within Hyrule and two separate characters (the Light Spirit from Twilight Princess and the water dragon from Skyward Sword). While the name is obviously derived from Farore, it has never been used to refer to the goddess herself.
The article also states that Link has been called "The Green Fairy" in past Zelda titles, in some kind of allusion to Farore. I don't recall this title ever being used in any of the games, and I'm not exactly sure where this is supposed to have come from - in Ocarina of Time, the child Malon playfully calls Link "fairy boy", but this is just a nickname given in reference to his fairy Navi. Tingle also calls Link "Mr. Fairy", but he does this due to the mistaken assumption that Link himself is a fairy. Neither of these names are done in reference to Farore, and "The Green Fairy" is something that has no basis within the Zelda series. I think that maybe parts of this section should either be rewritten or removed.
12345Ernie (talk) 10:10, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Triforce of Courage 

message: Unfortunately, I don't think that this article at present succeeds at demonstrating notability. It needs a lot of serious overhaul. I'm sure it (probably) exists out there. Here are some useful resources to help expand it with valuable content:
#The Video game project's Sources page
#The Situational and Reliable sources Google custom search engines (the links can be found in the above sources link). A tip to using these is that while slower, a more effective way to get more reliable sources is to preface Triforce with (for example) "site:1up.com". Further, it's helpful to get through unreliable links such as blog URLs by typing (again for example) "-1up.com/do/BlogEntry" (both without quotations).
#Bing news search. Just be mindful that the sources are either valid reliable sources as listed in the reliable sources article as well as making sure that the news sources that aren't listed here but seem reliable truly are (for example, The Guardian is a great find, while a contributor blog on Forbes is not).
#Google books. It doesn't often yield great results, but I've found the occasional good source out of it.
- New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 10:00, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability 

message: Hello, I've added some citations, as well as a small bit of information at the bottom of the article. If you would like to discuss these edits, please let me know. Thanks! Triforces (talk) 21:02, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits

message: Hello, I noticed that much of the text here has no reliable sources and there are also a few unreliable sources such as Zelda Capital. There are better sources that could be added to this article such as this one  and this one . Fieryninja (talk) 07:41, 11 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of reliable sources 

message: Further to my previous comment, this page needs a massive overhaul to reduce the huge amount of unsourced extraneous plot detail. The menu needs to be completely restructured and the content rewritten from a real-world perspective. It is clear that this page has grown out of control to the point where it is confusing to the casual reader. A lot of the plot needs trimming down. We don't need to know every little detail about the Triforce from in-universe. Fieryninja (talk) 10:12, 15 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Article has been thoroughly revised. Let's keep it in a reasonable condition. Fieryninja (talk) 17:47, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You did an amazing work on this, you helped this article a lot. I'm happy to attempt on helping you on every Zelda fictional related articles. 49.207.209.133 (talk) 23:46, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the comment, I really appreciate it. I can see that you are passionate about Zelda-related subjects. This certainly needed a lot of work! It's important that the article is maintained with accurate citations, so I will be checking any content added to make sure it is properly sourced. And of course you are welcome to contribute. Fieryninja (talk) 06:22, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page clean up 

message: I realize the term "lore" has entered into standard usage in fan wikis as a lazy catch-all for pseudo-encyclopedic content, but in actual exposition it serves no purpose.  Of course any "factual" description of the Triforce from an in-universe perspective relates fictional circumstance - it doesn't need constant reference to some kind of generic pseudo-historical well of magical knowledge.  This would read better if it simply contained a "Fictional history" in the vein of countless other video game and comic book entities. Corvinus84 (talk) 02:42, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Three counts of "lore" have been swapped for "fictional history". Fieryninja (talk) 07:26, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The frequent references to "lore" make this difficult to read.