Talk:Museum ship

message: After reading the article on the Twelve-Mile Circle and state legislators in Trenton jokingly (I assume/hope) mentioning using the USS New Jersey to settle a territorial dispute with Delaware, I find myself wondering about the constitutional specifics of state governments taking ownership of these vessels and using them as museums in light of the third clause of Section 10 of the Constitution of the United States.  Do the states actually take posession of these ships, or do they still technically belong to the US Navy?  If it's the former, does Congress pass individual acts allowing the state in question to take posession, or is there some sort of safeguard in the transfer process that ensures that the ship can no longer be considered a "ship of war" from a legal standpoint?  Guppy313 23:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Constitutional specifics

message: Reworked this, and moved the data into a table. May add country affiliations later. MadMaxDog 11:35, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean-up, 'tabled'

message: Would it make sense to recategorize/expand the Museum Ships category to have categories for the general locations (countries/states) where the ships are?  Seeing as there is probably quite a bit of interest in viewers to go visit these ships, it would be easier to find specific vessels based on a category that is "close to home."  Jkstark 23:04, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have been planning an 'afiliated with' and a 'located in' column, but I haven't been able to do it yet. MadMaxDog 10:16, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category modification / expansion 

message: Yorktown is not afloat.  She is intentionally aground, and they tell me two lower decks are flooded with fresh water to keep her that way.  If you visit, note there is nothing of substance connecting her to the pier.  Not even a single dock line or chain.--J Clear 04:09, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can provide references, it would be good to change her entries here and at its main article. MadMaxDog 06:32, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yorktown 

message: I don't know whether anyone is watching this article, or whether this comment might be stumbled upon at some point in the future, but could someone who knows about this subject please add a section telling humble readers like myself about the history of the musem ship as an idea or institution? The reason I ask is I remember once reading about how back in Tudor or Elizabethan England or so there used to be a venerable old warship parked in the Thames as a museum piece. Well, when I heard that I was amazed, but it's a pity there's nothing in this article about it, or other historical museum ships, or indeed anything about where the idea originated. Anyone who knows about these things, please help! Lordrosemount (talk) 22:02, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly there are people watchlisting the article. However, I (and probably most others watchlisting it and every now and then working on it - i.e. the parts beyond the list!)  aren't really experts, so we don't have a comprehensive view of the subject either. If you could remember any specifics about the ship or institution you mentioned, we might look into it. Ingolfson (talk) 01:17, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: PS: I think that 'museum ships' must be an ancient concept. Even the old Romans must have had the odd famous galley that was the centrepiece of some former war. Ingolfson (talk) 01:17, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: History of museum ships

message: The "Notable examples" section can be sorted by various columns. When it is sorted by Name, some ships are not in proper alphabetical order. I only looked at entries starting with "USS", and found these three anomalies: USS Cairo, USS Lexington, and USS Pueblo. I don't know how to fix this (but I wouldn't mind learning). The problem seems to be with the italicization of the ship name. Normally the "USS" is not italicized, and the ship's name is in italics. Cairo and Pueblo are not in this format. Lexington seems to follow the standard pattern, but is out of order. Maybe this is a simple fix for somebody who knows how to do it. Lou Sander (talk) 14:15, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alphabetical order? 

message: Notable examples section seems to be completely arbitrary selection of museum ships. There is already proper List of museum ships, so I don't really see point having such separate list in this article, which inevitably gets longer in time as everyone will be adding their personal favourite.--Staberinde (talk) 15:56, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maybe remove "Notable examples" section? 

message: Does the article cover ships which are not afloat, such as the Cutty Sark? I've assumed so, and added this to the gallery as one of the best-known ships in the UK and a major London landmark. It wasn't clear whether that gallery is in any particular sequence - seems not to be chronological, alphabetical or geographical.  PamD 11:05, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The article included HMS Victory which has been in dry-dock for around a century now, so the answer is clearly yes. Murgatroyd49 (talk) 15:34, 15 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ships out of water?