Talk:Relief pitcher

message: There seems to be a lot of inevitable overlap between describing the evolution of reliever usage and the evolution of closer usage.  What is best way to address?  DwaynefromME (talk) 16:33, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I would try to summarize as much as possible.  For instance, specific details on closer strategies are in closer, while relief pitcher mentions that they have evolved into one-inning specialists.  Do you have specific examples that you feel need to be addressed?—Bagumba (talk) 21:01, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really sure.  I tried just now to expand on the specialization/smaller workload point.  Maybe that can distinguish the two more.  DwaynefromME (talk) 17:26, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

text: The pitching staff has a range of sizes listed, as descriptions use words like "generally" and "usually".  Most teams now do have a general pecking order, but it is certainly not followed 100% of the time.  Do you have suggestions on improvement?  Note also, that the current wording is based on a reliable source;  I would suggest other viewpoints added have similar sources as well.—Bagumba (talk) 21:09, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, let me know what you think of my edit of 17:22 today.  DwaynefromME (talk) 17:26, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Aprreciate the effort, but this appears to be original research. WP should be based primarily off of secondary sources, analysis provided by an author in a reliable source. The latest additions appear to be backed primarily by statistics (i.e. primary sources)from stat site queries. I would suggest finding authors that advance the positions stated instead of performing our own analysis and generalization based on statistics.—Bagumba (talk) 18:10, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion of history

message: I think the wording of this section as it stands is misleading.  It implies that every team has the same, strictly defined roles -- everyone has one guy who always pitches the 9th, one who always pitches the 7th/8th, one who always pitches the 6th, and a lefty specialist.  Even given the continually increasing specialization of the bullpen, there is still a lot more diversity than that in bullpen construction.  Also, it seems to me that the long relief role has largely died out.  DwaynefromME (talk) 16:33, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The pitching staff has a range of sizes listed, as descriptions use words like "generally" and "usually".  Most teams now do have a general pecking order, but it is certainly not followed 100% of the time.  Do you have suggestions on improvement?  Note also, that the current wording is based on a reliable source;  I would suggest other viewpoints added have similar sources as well.—Bagumba (talk) 21:09, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, let me know what you think of my edit of 17:22 today.  DwaynefromME (talk) 17:26, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Aprreciate the effort, but this appears to be original research. WP should be based primarily off of secondary sources, analysis provided by an author in a reliable source. The latest additions appear to be backed primarily by statistics (i.e. primary sources)from stat site queries. I would suggest finding authors that advance the positions stated instead of performing our own analysis and generalization based on statistics.—Bagumba (talk) 18:10, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: "Current relief roles"

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