Talk:Harmon Rabb

message: I'm in favor of merging the Harmon Rabb, Sr. article with this article.  There's just not enough about him for a meaningful article, and it would make a good section in the Rabb Jr. article because of how often that character's plots revolved around his ongoing search for his father.--Raguleader 07:56, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I also agree. Darry2385 03:23, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Disagree While I disagree with merging the two pages, I am in favor of merging Harmon Rabb, Sr. to the Characters of JAG page. Neovu79 (talk) 06:03, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential merge from [[Harmon Rabb, Sr.]] 

message: I'm not sure if anyone else reads this talk page other than me, but was Harm's dad ever shown flying off the USS Hornet?  I remember one episode had a flashback to Harm and his dad on the Hornet, but Harm specifically said that the F-4 Phantom (the plane Harm Sr. flew) was too large to operate from the Hornet.--Raguleader 09:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure it's in the Third Season episode "Ghost Ship", but I can't find a detailed summary of the episode online, and I don't have a copy of it handy. --Raguleader 10:23, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just watched the episode, and Harm did say that his father flew off the ship, and I think your ref above to the F-4 being too large is incorrect.  If I remember correctly, Mac asked Harm if he flew off the Hornet, and Harm replied that Tomcats are too large. Darry2385 03:20, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I think you mean too big. Spartan198 (talk) 14:37, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  USS Hornet - USS Ticonderoga 

message: While I agree that Harm was "selected" for promotion, however 10 USC 777 of the U.S. Code of Law states that frocking allows the authorized officer to wear the insignia of the selected grade as well as allow that officer by law the right to be refered by others as that selected grade, in this case, Captain Harmon Rabb instead of Commander or Captain (Select). Neovu79 (talk) 06:28, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Not in the U.S. military. (Select) refers to an officer who has been selected for promotion but not authorized for frocking under 10 USC 777. While I agree there is some "variations" in terms of paperwork because the frocked officer is not entitled for pay in grade, but that's because the officer has not officially assumed the pay grade. I should know, I was a member of the Navy JROTC. Neovu79 (talk) 23:29, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

text: What you're preceiving is a little wrong. The Rear Admiral (lower half) (Select)s as you point out, do not occupy Rear Admiral (lower half) positions, they are still occuping their current O-6 billets. The United States Navy puts bios of officers selected to flag rank to recognize that they have ben selected by the in service selection boards, or in the case of O-9 and O-10 grade selections, nominations by the PROTUS (President of the United States) through the SECDEF (Secretay of Defense). The navy website will remove the (Select) once the officer is assigned a billet via the CNO (Chief of Naval Operations) that requires the officer to hold the rank thus also assuming the rank. In the case of a frocked officer, the officer has already been given permission to assume the rank, but not the grade (pay grade). Do you get what I'm saying? Because of my background, I also use to work at BUPERS (Bureau of Naval Personnel) in Washington, DC. One of my contract clients was Admiral Patrick Walsh, the current Vice Chief of Naval Operations. Back then he was a Rear Admiral (Select) however, he still wore his Captain rank until he was confirmed by the Senate and assumed a billet that requires him to hold the rank. Vice Admiral Norbert Ryan, his CO at the time, did not authorize frocking like Harm was, so he could not assume the rank yet, hence Rear Admiral (Select). I know what I'm talking about. I've been working for the navy for 10 years. Neovu79 (talk) 06:33, 25 January 2008 (UTC)

text: No, his papers should read Captain, not Captain (Select). If there are variations in the paperwork, it is up to the officer himself or herself or their aids to contact BUPERS to rectify that. Many choose not to for the meer fact that the are going to be promoted. Neovu79 (talk) 07:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: On an interesting note, at the end of the series, Harm was left in a very unique situation. If he were to have loss the coin toss and actually retire before assuming the O-6 pay grade or retire before holding the O-6 pay grade less than six months, he would retire at the next lower rank and pay grade in which he had held for more than six months. In this case, he would have retired as a Commander with the retirement benefits of an O-5. This actual situation is one of the reasons why frocking in the military is uncommon because in today's military, personnel turnover is quite common. Enlisted and commission officers tend to resign or retire once their obligation is up. There are several instances that an officer is selected for promotion but has decided to retire or resign. In their mind, what is the point of allowing the officer to assume the rank beforehand if he or she will not be back to use it? Neovu79 (talk) 00:08, 26 January 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm not saying that. No, just because I work for the navy doesn't mean I know everything nor am I saying that our country's CJCS know everything, however I do know a lot because of my time at the navy's personnel and percurement divisions; with the little help of some studing of the United States Code and a keen interest in the navy. Neovu79 (talk) 07:37, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Captain instead of Captain (Select) 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Harmon Rabb photo.jpg

message: In one episode, in which Rabb is being held captive by Palmer, Palmer states that he killed 19 people, he likely killed 22+ people.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 214.3.17.38 (talk) 12:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: How Many people did Rabb kill in the line of Duty?

message: Was the Harmon Rabb character based on Tom Cruise's character in Top Gun? I'm curious because they share similar backstory elements. Both their fathers flew Navy F4s and disappeared during the Vietnam War (though Harmon, Sr.'s story was further fleshed out during JAG's production run). Spartan198 (talk) 14:37, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: JAG & Top Gun

message: I think the Romanian decoration should come before the Kuwait liberation thing, since the Kuwaiti award is a SERVICE medal and according to USN regulations foreign personal awards, orders or medals (such as the Romanian one) come before foreign SERVICE medals (just as US personal awards, orders or medals always come before US SERVICE medals)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omulurimaru (talk • contribs) 18:44, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: On the show though it was shown coming after Kuwait, and in this case shouldn't it match the shows order since it is a medal rack for a fictional character? Maybe with a side note or foot note? Dr. Stantz (talk) 18:07, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistake in Harm's ribbons 

message: The article notes that Rabb was promoted to Lieutenant Commander in episode 1.13.  However, in episode 1.10 he is wearing the gold oak leaf insignia of a Lt. Commander, and is referred to by other characters as "Commander Rabb".   (See screenshot on the right.)  What's weird is that in episodes 1.09 and 1.11 he is back to being "Lieutenant Rabb" and is back to wearing the two-bar insignia of a lieutenant.
thumb | Rabb in a screenshot from Episode 1.10
What's going on with this?  It should be noted somewhere, I think.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Quadari (talk • contribs) 00:58, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discontinuity in Rabb's rank 

message: I figured I should leave this here just in case. I am just finishing a full rewatch of the entire JAG series and have corrected when Harm was promoted. While yes it is true that it is mentioned in the beginning of the series finale, Fair Winds and Flowing Seas, he as actually in fact promoted in the previous episode at the very end of the episode. It is just rehashed in the opening of the series finale.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.149.52.125 (talk) 22:45, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction of Captain Promotion 

message: Someone under Service (on JAG) wrote that Harm "served aboard the aircraft carrier USS Midway at some point."  As an F-14 Aviator that wouldn't have happened because MIDWAY never embarked any F-14 squadron due to the Jet Blast Deflectors not being rated for F-14s launching with full afterburner. They only recovered and launched 2 that were assigned to USS ENTERPRISE (CVN-65) because they were diverted due to a storm and the launch was not the standard f-14 launch procedure.2600:8801:9D00:126:C0D2:DA0D:7292:25B1 (talk) 00:06, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Your analysis notwithstanding, the episode that is referenced for this claim (S07E05) does back it. At about 03:40 into the episode, Rabb tells NCIS agent Holland that he served on the Midway with Commander Stoechler, one of the victims in the episode ("We served together on the Midway"). – Recoil (talk) 03:25, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  USS MIDWAY