Talk:Public address system

message: The decision was to RETAIN BOTH sound reinforcement system and public address.
Shouldn't the information in this article be merged with that in sound reinforcement system? I think the info in this article is somewhat better, so moving stuff over would be advisable IMHO (then this article could just become a redirect). Or we could just remove info on PA's from the sound system article. What does everyone else think? —Frecklefoot 19:12, 4 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with a merge, but I think that sound reinforcement system should be merged into public address system because: sound reinforcement system gets about 7410 Google hits, but public address system gets about 117,000 Google hits. --Lexor|Talk 12:21, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

text: Ill put an official tag upMartijn Hoekstra 13:10, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

text: How about merging it all into Tannoy? My question is rhetorical = not a real question.  But "sound reinforcement" has been an accepted term for what a PA-system does for at least a few decades, whether it's subtle or rock-concert levels involved.  It remains a sticky question unfortunately.  However, Live sound reproduction is erroneous; it's a made-up word, among many made up words that find their way into WP. ... Kenosis 14:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge?

message: Wikipedia does not allow “Links that are added to promote a site, that primarily exist to sell products or services, with objectionable amounts of advertising, or that require payment to view the relevant content.”  
* This rule seems to prohibit commercial websites from manufacturers, because a PA company's website's main purpose is to sell products or services. However, I suppose if you add a link that doesn’t exist primarily to sell products or services (such as the “Basic PA systems Primer”), then that would be OK.
“Wikipedia does not allow the insertion of links that appear to promote products by pointing to obscure or not particularly relevant commercial sites. (Also called commercial links.)” 
*Yorkville is a manufacturer of PA systems and equipment that sells their products in North America and Europe, and so this rule would not seem to disallow the inclusion of a Yorkville link.
“adding a small number of relevant external links can be a valuable service to our readers.” 
*It is argued that the Yorkville “PA systems Primer” would provide a service to the readers that are interested in knowing how to set up a PA system.
External links should be to “Sites that contain neutral and accurate material not already in the article. Ideally this content should be integrated into the Wikipedia article, then the link would remain as a reference, but in some cases this is not possible for copyright reasons or because the site has a level of detail which is inappropriate for the Wikipedia article.” ….....
*Well, in this case, the Yorkville “PA Systems Primer” seems to qualify, because it has detailed information on  how to set up, plug in, and sound check a basic PA system, which is arguably too much detail to put into an encyclopedia article about PA systems.
External links to commercial organizations are acceptable if they can serve to identify major corporations associated with a topic.  
*I guess an editor proposing a company would have to show proof that the company in question is a major corporation associated with the topic.  
*Yorkville Sound is a Company that designs and manufactures all of its products at the 150,000 square foot facility. In the 1960's Yorkville sold PA and amplifier products in North America. In 1972 Yorkville expanded distribution into Europe. 
“Advertising. Articles about companies and products are acceptable if they are written in an objective and unbiased style. Furthermore, all article topics must be third-party verifiable, so articles about very small "garage" or local companies are not likely to be acceptable. External links to commercial organizations are acceptable if they can serve to identify major corporations associated with a topic (see finishing school for an example). Please note Wikipedia does not endorse any businesses and it does not set up affiliate programs. See also WP:CORP for guidelines on corporate notability.”
*Please see the paragraph above on Yorkville Sound
*The PA systems primer makes no reference to any Yorkville products in the text, even when the text is discussing the different types of microphones, amplifiers and speakers.  Nor are there any references to the purported attributes or benefits of using Yorkville products.
*Summary of content of proposed link: BASIC P.A.SYSTEMSA PRIMER FOR USING P.A. SYSTEMS
·	What is impedance 
·	How to calculate the total impedance 
·	microphone types (dynamic, condenser and ribbon) 
·	equalizers (including parametric equalizers) 
·	What are crossovers 
·	How do mixers work 
·	Connecting the various parts of a P.A. system 
·	What are decibels 
·	How do amplifiers work
·	How to deal with noise in a P.A  (e.g., magnetic fields, radio stations, ground hums, hiss) 
·	Does length or thickness of speaker cable matter 
·	What is “clipping” ?
·	Why do speakers “blow”? 
·	What is feedback (loud squealing sound)NatMor 17:23, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Commercial Links, Part II

message: In the Large venue PA systems section, it is claimed that monitor systems are a part of PA systems. It is my understanding that having a monitor system is one of the significant lines which divides a Public Address system from a Soun Reinforcement system. Unless anybody begs to differ, I will take the liberty to edit this section extensively. I will do my best to cite sources so that the editing and discussion on this topic will be as progressive as possible --Davidkazuhiro 11:49, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds incorrect to me. --Ortzinator 03:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Was that an agreement or a disagreement? --Davidkazuhiro 04:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mean to be trite, but perhaps monitor systems are more accurately categorized as " 'semi-private' address systems". ... Kenosis 04:30, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: valid =D --Davidkazuhiro 07:04, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monitor systems in PA 

message: I think this should mention the PA systems that are used in schools and offices, which can he hooked up to telephones as well as microphone. --D-Day 22:48, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other PAs 

message: In my experience (stagehand and setup/strike in the pacific northwest), "front of house" refers to the area for the main sound board and its associated gear (compressors, effects processors, and so on), rather than to the entire main system. Is this just where I work, or does the article need tweaking? Commodore Pedantic (talk) 19:41, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've seen "FoH" refer to both the location and the system. Where there would be ambiguity, "FoH system" and "FoH position" are used. I've reviewed use of "FoH" here and in Sound reinforcement system and I don't see any serious ambiguity. --Kvng (talk) 20:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Front of House: system or location? 

message: This article needs to be moved to  public address system. Since the're is not yet a specific article for public address (in the sense of the speech, like a presidential public address), until one is created both public address and public announcement must be redirected to Public speaking.--Sum (talk) 16:10, 12 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to public address system and disambiguate (2012) 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: We have, as a recent editor pointed out, a pretty large Sound reinforcement system article. Should all the content here in Public address system about "small venues" and "large venues" be folded into that article where non-reducndant, and moved out of this one? This article seems more about voice announcements for operations or public safety and not about live musical or theatrical performances. --Wtshymanski (talk) 03:19, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Factoring