Wikipedia talk:Notability (highways)

message: I'm going to have to oppose this for two reasons. 
1)It's instruction creep.
2)m:Wiki is not paper. "There is no reason why there shouldn't be a page for every Simpsons character, and even a table listing every episode, all neatly cross-linked and introduced by a shorter central page. Every episode name in the list could link to a separate page for each of those episodes, with links to reviews and trivia. Each of the 100+ poker games can have its own page with rules, history, and strategy. Jimbo Wales has agreed: Hard disks are cheap." Why shouldn't we have an article for every road? Why aren't they all notable? Cool Bluetalk to me 16:32, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because apparently some people don't think they are; see the previous AFDs.  I dunno about the instruction creep, but I'm with you here that most roads are notable. ([ →]zelzany - new age roads) 16:44, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, most roads are not notable; most are minor residential streets. --NE2 19:13, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Allow me to clarify what I meant what "most roads" meant.  I meant all state highways and their systems, U.S. Routes, Interstate Highways, freeways, expressways, and a few minor roads that have lots to say about, plus sources to back them up.  I in no way, shape, or form, intend to mean all of the city streets and minor roads. ([ →]zelzany - new age roads) 19:20, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I meant in my definition of road, too. Cool Bluetalk to me 22:15, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You might like to see Wikipedia talk:Notability_%28awards%29, under Kevin Murray's comment. Cool Bluetalk to me 22:17, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: (me looks) AFDs for roads happens fairly frequently, given that WP:USRD/P proves it. ([ →]zelzany - new age roads) 22:31, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But have you noticed that only one was deleted? Cool Bluetalk to me 22:48, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

text: (indent) Under the articles section, that is. Cool Bluetalk to me 22:49, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The results of those debates don't matter.  What does matter is the disagreement about road/highway notability between different editors.  That results in them being sent to AFD, and that's why this guideline is still being proposed and discussed to straighten that out. ([ →]zelzany - new age roads) 22:52, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

text: It's only about 1 per month, or more precisely 22/23. It's just instruction creep. Cool Bluetalk to me 00:15, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed - this guideline is too prescriptive. In general, highways are notable as are major roads within cities, but ones that are not (eg distributor streets or those which fail WP:N / WP:RS) will go to PROD or AfD and get nuked. No need for a separate guideline on these. Orderinchaos 15:01, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please elaborate much further.  Furthermore, if there were this many road articles nominated for deletion during the course of Wikipedia ever existing, then it means that a good chunk of the community do not think [state] highways are notable, while others say they are notable.  Instruction creep for this seems very misleading. ([ →]vishwin60 - new age roads) 18:52, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Oppose

message: It looks like this has failed to reach a consensus and should be rejected. --Kevin Murray 10:20, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rejected

message: Even though this is not a policy page, can there be clarity on what special historical significance means? Andy 1One (talk) 01:30, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarity

message: I've added a section o New Zealand, based on general usage and previous outcome of AfD discussions. Please amend at will! :) Grutness...wha? 23:46, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  NZ added