Talk:Guarani dialects

message: And what about the Guarani indians?
LtDoc 21:08, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: See Guarani. -- Curps 02:11, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Guarani Indians

message: Note that e-tilde, i-tilde, u-tilde and y-tilde are part of the Latin extensions for Vietnamese, and are thus fairly widely available in fonts for many operating systems.  For this reason these characters were included in this edit. -- Curps 02:11, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Literal Unicode

message: Now I see there is some kind of reminiscent vowel harmony.. specially in negated conjugation: nderejapói, ndorojapói, but ndapejapói; so this is just before the "r".
What do you think?
:I don't know about harmony, but Guaraní does have forward nasal spreading over vowels (the German version of the article mentions this, but the English one makes a very bad attempt at describing it).  Basically, the occurrence of a nasal vowel causes all following vowels in the word to be nasalized.  It's apparently a fairly common feature in South American Indian languages.  
:Perhaps someone should also add a better description of the phonology.  Again, the German edition does a decent job of this.  Perhaps I should cut-and-paste and translate?  pgdudda 03:19, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Although it seems like it, this isn't related to vowel harmony. These sounds appear to be reminiscents of old forms of the conjugation prefixes, which were probably the same as the Tupi: a- (1ps), ere- (2ps), o- (3p), îa-/ña- (1ppIn), oro- (1ppEx) and pe- (2pp). The a- that appears before the pe- prefix seems to be an epenthetic vowel, there just to avoid a consonantal cluster. For more info about the Old Tupi conjugation, just take a look at this page, by Prof. Eduardo Navarro (in Brazilian Portuguese). But since I don't know much about Guaraní yet, perhaps someone with more knowledge about the subject could explain this better. XVoX 11:07, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Vowel harmony]] in Guaraní ? 

message: --N0thingness 17:09, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  They're allophones ([ɟ] and [dʒ]), or so is my understanding.   Wouldn't be surprised if [ʝ] shows up too though. --Pyry 17:31, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''dʒ''' or '''ʝ''' or '''ɟ'''? 

message: According to Portuguese rules on spelling (the same for Portugal and Brazil), words ending with "i" and having the stress on the last syllable have no acute accent ("´"). So, the correct spelling is "Guarani" and not "Guaraní". This rule is violated often, but it is still a rule. Velho 17:12, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But the word Guaraní it's took from Spanish here. In which it's necessary tu put the tilde in this case. --N0thingness 01:45, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Portuguese language|Portuguese]] spelling 

message: The tables in the sections Conjugation and Negation don't have much information about the verb forms (different rows are probably for different person/number categories, which should be indicated), so I added tags asking for expert attention. Please edit the tables if you're familiar with Guaraní verb morphology. -Oghmoir 22:48, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed the linguistic stuff, but the table is in such a bad shape that the whole formatting needs to be redone, sth like
 number || person || Guarani pronoun || Engl || prefix || stem || pref+stem || gloss
Jasy jatere 23:14, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The conjugation and negation tables 

message: Why is the Latin letter G with tilde, used in the Guaraní language, not encoded as a precomposed character in Unicode? --84.61.100.152 12:31, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You'd want to direct that question to the good folks at Unicode.org...  ;-)  pgdudda 22:08, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin letter G with tilde 

message: It is a shame that the name Guarani is mispelled in the article about Guarani. It is a rule in guarani that words can't have an accent (´) in the last syllable. Guaraní, as you spell it, would be the correct spelling if you want to write Guarani in Spanish, which makes no sense at all. --Mauricio Maluff 04:15, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just realized this rule doesn't even appear in this article. Any reason? --Mauricio Maluff 04:22, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Official orthography as decided in Montevideo 1950. All words are stressed by default on the final syllable. This is not indicated in spelling. Exceptions are marked by an acute if oral or by a tilde if nasal. Since final stress is the rule and not the exception, it is never marked, i.e. there can never be an acute on the final syllable Jasy jatere (talk) 18:57, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guarani, not Guaraní 

message: It definitely isn't true that most Paraguayans don't speak pure Spanish or Guarani. Most of the population DEFINITELY speaks pure Spanish on a regular basis. Only in a very familiar setting are many Guarani phrases and words thrown in with Spanish. However, it is true that it is hard to find speakers of pure Guarani. There is a large spectrum of the mix of two languages.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.214.250.195 (talk) 04:17, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Most Paraguayans" 

message: Does anyone have a source for Guaraní being (predominantly) fluid-S? All I can find seems to at least imply that it's split-S (i.e. most verbs can lexically only be marked one way) but a few verbs are fluid-S (i.e. can be marked either way depending on the semantics involved). References: Active-stative language; []; [] (implied at least); []; [] (implied) 71.13.148.220 (talk) 06:35, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alignment 

message: "Paraguayan Guaraní is an official language in the provinces of Corrientes and Misiones, alongside Spanish."
But the Corrientes Province article says that it is "the only Argentine Province with an official language other than Spanish", and the article on Misiones Province doesn't mention Guaraní at all. Does anyone object to me removing the reference to Misiones in this sentence? NoriMori (talk) 17:40, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I also checked the same two articles in the Spanish Wikipedia, and they are in agreement with what the English Wikipedia says. So, I think you're right on this one. Therefore, no objection, as far as I'm concerned.  Pasquale (talk) 19:22, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, I just noticed that the article on Paraguayan Guaraní says the same thing; so I guess I'll take it off of there, too. Thanks, Pasquale. NoriMori (talk) 23:42, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Official language in Misiones?