Talk:Happy slapping

message: The killing of David Morley is reported twice in the list of incidents, and one mention describes him as 27, while the other says he was 29. The story also appears in the book "The Pirate's Dilemma," which lists his age as 37. We ought to have his correct age, and mention his killing just once in the list. 144.142.3.200 (talk) 18:02, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: David Morley inaccuracies

message: :* Sweden, September 1, 2006: After a 16-year-old African boy hospitalizes a 15-year-old Balkan boy in the city of Örebro, the latter's 17-year-old sister stabs and kills the former with a hunting knife and claims self-defense, which is unlikely. The sister probably killed her brother's assailant as revenge for the embarrassment. The killing is filmed and distributed online. The 15-year old boy was happy slapped, and the video spread online. [1][this source's reliability may need verification] [2]
I don't know your rules very well, but I'd guess that Wikipedia probably should avoid having articles stating that a living person "probably" killed someone and that their defense plea is "unlikely"(if nothing else, because it's original "research"). 84.48.89.112 00:38, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Speculation on crimes?

message: The swedish incidents reported are not happy slapping. Happy slapping is unmotivated violence against a randomly chosen and unpredicting victim. The Swedish examples are political violence where left wing fight right wing groups. A movie of an incident like that is not a happy slapping clip, it could either be a journalistic work or a political propaganda movie. I am living in sweden and I have never heard about those specific incidents either, i searched the expressen (a leading tabloid) news archive for the skinhead/subway station feature but it was not there. I think the whole section should be taken out because this is not "happy slapping" nor verifyable. Odd Jönsson 19:26, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Happy slapping, highly questionable swedish examples

message: Hi,
This is a pretty poor article as it stands - as far as I can see from google this is because there is nothing substantial known about the phenomenon, bar a vague sense of media outrage. The news articles I read were vague and often wrong, and I wouldn't trust them as sources. The current history section seems to be wrong - St Wilfrids hit the headlines after a child was taken out by his parents after happy-slapping bullying, (http://www.southtynesidetoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=1111&ArticleID=1042037) but I can't see any evidence that the craze originated there. I saw several claims that it originated in the UK garage scene, (http://www.engadget.com/2005/04/26/happy-slapping-increasingly-slap-happy/) but I'm not sure how trustworthy these are - I'll stick it in anyway.  
(incidentally, should this be at the top? Or shoudl I stick it at the bottom? I'm a very irregular contributor...) Inebriatedonkey 10:17, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: (that message was by 80.4.187.123.  --bjh21 17:20, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Miscelaneus questions

message: It looks to me like most of the examples are just general examples of violence.  They don't meet the requirements whereby something should be considered "Happy Slapping," at all.  Ed Sanville 13:56, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most of the examples aren't "Happy Slapping" 

message: For obvious reasons. --^pirate 17:42, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What are these obvious reasons?, I consider this article alright, only needs more deveploment.-- Atenea26 20:15, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: reworded opening paragraph
unnamedculprit 17:18, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Slap

message: * deeceevoice 18:08, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Saw this news item; it may be useful. (Appallingly stupid fad.)

message: Alot of the media reports here were obviously not happy slapping.In particular the one about a nazi skinhead getting beaten up.That was a politically motivated crime.Happy Slapping is violence for the sake of amusement
I agree, see above.  Ed Sanville 13:54, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Not Happy Slapping

message: I would say that the fad started in Britain, where guns are outlawed. The slappers can act with impunity here as they know their victim will be unarmed. Surely this makes a huge factor.
:the "slappers" act with impunity because any attempt the victim makes to defend themself physically (or mete out any revenge later on) will typically result in a criminal record for the victim.  The gun issue is irrelevant; in fact there was a case of a female teacher receiving a 6 month prison sentence and total ruination of her career after firing an *air* pistol not at but *in front* of the feet of chavs who had been making her life a misery...  such is the stupidity of British Law. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.188.104.198 (talk) 15:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, there was no evidence whatsoever that the youths the teacher fired the gun at had anything to do with any supposed "harrassment" of her and her family. Nick Cooper 14:39, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The gun factor 

message: "This attack has been filmed on one of the boy's mobile phone two weeks before the report."
In most of the rest of the article I can at least understand what the editor is driving at, but I can't make head or tail of this. I would just delete the sentence altogether since we know the incident would have been filmed (tis the whole point of happy slapping afterall) but I may be removing some legitimate information ¬_¬ 
Packersh 22:40, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd Grammar 

message: I've tagged a number of the media-reported incidents for citations, as well as providing them for others, but overall I think this section is quite poor at the moment. In particular, I think a number of the incidents don't fit the profile for happy slapping, i.e.:
* Slovakia, September 1, 2006
* Sweden, September 1, 2006 - we need an English language cite for this, but even so it doesn't remotely fit the "random" element
*England, October 10, 2006 - none of the BBC reports indicate the use of a camera-phone http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/6049970.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/6052534.stmhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/hampshire/6109660.stm
*Australia, October 23, 2006 - this seems far too premeditated and systematic
Nick Cooper 12:47, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Media-reported incidents 

message: I've removed this incident as the only mention of HS is in this Canadian report, where it seems nothing more than speculation. The only references I can find in the UK media (here and here) don't mention it at all. In any case, given the paucity of reporting, it can't really be regarded as a "media-reported incident," at least not yet. Nick Cooper 13:04, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Peter Ramsay

message: I wonder how is publishing these videos legal. In my country victim of such assault could sue website owners (unless they're abroad) for breaching privacy laws78.131.137.50 (talk) 03:31, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Legal side

message: There needs to be more information about this in the United States. It's not called "Happy Slapping" here, but it's basically the same thing; teenagers frequently do attack each other and then post the videos onto YouTube. Stonemason89 (talk) 15:12, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Saw this on the news other day, think its called the "Knockout game." Its where they perform a sucker punch on a person and record the assault process.Tchu414 (talk) 21:45, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: USA

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message: As a swede, the swedish story makes me suspicious of it's truthfulness since:
# The story refers to race and/or nationality tho it's not relevant to the news article (both in quoted article and on the Wikipedia section) – this is often a tell that the article is politivcally motivated.
# The story is published on a finnish website, not linking to the original swedish post on Expressen so it's hard to know the authenticity of the story.
# This event is not widely known in sweden and I cant't find anything written in Swedish mainstream media about it. To me this is also a tell of fake/incorrect news.
I might be bad at research, so please find the original swedish source, if possible, and link to that instead of the secondary finnish shource.
Oh!pex (talk) 10:35, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding subjectivity/truth in swedish story. Risk of fake news. 

message: Since when has the verb "hospitalise" meant "attack so severely that the victim has to go to hospital" (not only the main article but in a quote on this talk page)? As far as I was aware - and I'm a native English-speaker - it only means "admit to hospital", as in "she was hospitalised". The other use strikes me as insulting, like the Dutch use of the verb "verbouwen" ("to rebuild") with reference to someone's face ("they rebuilt his face", i.e. they smashed it up).213.127.210.95 (talk) 16:55, 12 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "hospitalise"