Template talk:Psychology

message: Everyone has their pet theories and theorists, so some objective measure is needed to determine who the most important authors in psychology are. (Even though a good case could be made that psychodynamic theories and radical behaviorism have been largely abandoned by psychology departments these days, we'll not pursue this.) I've chosen the psychologists determined to be the most historically important throughout the 20th century by a multi-method empirical study (Haggbloom, S.J. et al, 2002, The 100 Most Eminent Psychologists of the 20th Century, Review of General Psychology, Vol. 6, No. 2, 139–152.) The authors combined most frequently cited in the professional psychological journal literature, most frequently cited in introductory psychology textbooks, and most frequently named in a survey of members of the Association for Psychological Science, in addition to 3 qualitative variables converted to numerical scores. While a case could be made to chose a more recent period, namely, that outdated theories and theorists are more represented in a list going back so far, it nevertheless seems more appropriate to represent the whole period, including outdated theories, in an encyclopedia article. Someone can format this if they like (though it might take up a lot of vertical space):
Table 4. The 100 (99 Reported) Most Eminent Psychologists of the 20th Century	Table 4. The 100 (99 Reported) Most Eminent Psychologists of the 20th Century	Table 4. The 100 (99 Reported) Most Eminent Psychologists of the 20th Century	Table 4. The 100 (99 Reported) Most Eminent Psychologists of the 20th Century	Table 4. The 100 (99 Reported) Most Eminent Psychologists of the 20th Century	Table 4. The 100 (99 Reported) Most Eminent Psychologists of the 20th Century	Table 4. The 100 (99 Reported) Most Eminent Psychologists of the 20th Century	Table 4. The 100 (99 Reported) Most Eminent Psychologists of the 20th Century
Rank                                                                         	Name                                                                         	JCL rank                                                                     	TCL rank                                                                     	SL rank                                                                      	NAS                                                                          	APA award/president                                                          	Eponym
1                                                                            	B.F. Skinner                                                                 	8                                                                            	2                                                                            	1                                                                            	1950                                                                         	1958/—                                                                       	Skinnerian
2                                                                            	Jean Piaget                                                                  	2                                                                            	4                                                                            	2                                                                            	1966                                                                         	1969/—                                                                       	Piagetian
3                                                                            	Sigmund Freud                                                                	1                                                                            	1                                                                            	3                                                                            	—                                                                            	—/—                                                                          	Freudian
4                                                                            	Albert Bandura                                                               	5                                                                            	3                                                                            	5                                                                            	—                                                                            	1980/1974                                                                    	Bandura’s social learning theory
5                                                                            	Leon Festinger                                                               	12                                                                           	19                                                                           	11.5                                                                         	1972                                                                         	1959/—                                                                       	Festinger’s cognitive dissonance theory
6                                                                            	Carl Rogers                                                                  	28.5                                                                         	5                                                                            	9.5                                                                          	—                                                                            	1956/1947                                                                    	Rogerian therapy
7                                                                            	Stanley Schachter                                                            	46                                                                           	6                                                                            	24                                                                           	1983                                                                         	1969/—                                                                       	Schachter’s affiliation studies
8                                                                            	Neal E. Miller                                                               	13                                                                           	9                                                                            	14.5                                                                         	1958                                                                         	1959/1961                                                                    	
9                                                                            	Edward Thorndike                                                             	40                                                                           	50                                                                           	9.5                                                                          	1917                                                                         	—/1912                                                                       	Thorndike’s puzzle box
10                                                                           	Abraham Maslow                                                               	37                                                                           	14                                                                           	19                                                                           	—                                                                            	—/1968                                                                       	Maslow’s hierarchy
11                                                                           	Gordon Allport                                                               	51                                                                           	18                                                                           	14.5                                                                         	—                                                                            	1964/1939                                                                    	Allport A–S reaction study
12                                                                           	Erik Erikson                                                                 	16                                                                           	11                                                                           	17                                                                           	—                                                                            	—/—                                                                          	Erikson’s psychosocial stages
13                                                                           	Hans Eysenck                                                                 	3                                                                            	30                                                                           	24                                                                           	—                                                                            	—/—                                                                          	Eysenck personality inventory
14                                                                           	William James                                                                	—                                                                            	29                                                                           	6.5                                                                          	1906                                                                         	—/1904                                                                       	James–Lange theory of emotion
15                                                                           	David McClelland                                                             	34                                                                           	10                                                                           	31                                                                           	—                                                                            	1987/—                                                                       	
16                                                                           	Raymond Cattell                                                              	7                                                                            	37                                                                           	31                                                                           	—                                                                            	—/—                                                                          	Cattell 16 Factor Personality Questionnaire
17                                                                           	John B. Watson                                                               	—                                                                            	17                                                                           	4                                                                            	—                                                                            	—/1915                                                                       	Watsonian behaviorism
18                                                                           	Kurt Lewin                                                                   	47                                                                           	73.5                                                                         	8                                                                            	—                                                                            	—/—                                                                          	Lewinian psychology
19                                                                           	Donald O. Hebb                                                               	58                                                                           	—                                                                            	11.5                                                                         	1979                                                                         	1961/1960                                                                    	Hebbian
20                                                                           	George A. Miller                                                             	43                                                                           	46                                                                           	67                                                                           	1962                                                                         	1963/1969                                                                    	
21                                                                           	Clark L. Hull                                                                	73                                                                           	73.5                                                                         	14.5                                                                         	1936                                                                         	—/1936                                                                       	Hullian
22                                                                           	Jerome Kagan                                                                 	20                                                                           	23                                                                           	67                                                                           	—                                                                            	1987/—                                                                       	
23                                                                           	Carl Jung                                                                    	50                                                                           	40                                                                           	39.5                                                                         	—                                                                            	—/—                                                                          	Jungian
24                                                                           	Ivan Pavlov                                                                  	—                                                                            	22                                                                           	6.5                                                                          	—                                                                            	—/—                                                                          	Pavlovian
25                                                                           	Walter Mischel                                                               	48                                                                           	24.5                                                                         	67                                                                           	—                                                                            	1982/—                                                                       	
26                                                                           	Harry Harlow                                                                 	100                                                                          	7                                                                            	51                                                                           	1951                                                                         	1960/1958                                                                    	
27                                                                           	J. P. Guilford                                                               	10                                                                           	61                                                                           	—                                                                            	1954                                                                         	1964/1950                                                                    	Guilford–Martin personnel inventory
28                                                                           	Jerome Bruner                                                                	14                                                                           	70.5                                                                         	31                                                                           	—                                                                            	1962/1965                                                                    	
29                                                                           	Ernest Hilgard                                                               	67                                                                           	27                                                                           	51                                                                           	1948                                                                         	1967/1949                                                                    	
30                                                                           	Lawrence Kohlberg                                                            	39                                                                           	16                                                                           	97                                                                           	—                                                                            	—/—                                                                          	Kohlberg stages of moral development
31                                                                           	Martin Seligman                                                              	93                                                                           	13                                                                           	31                                                                           	—                                                                            	—/1998                                                                       	
32                                                                           	Ulric Neisser                                                                	59                                                                           	71                                                                           	31                                                                           	1984                                                                         	—/—                                                                          	
33                                                                           	Donald T. Campbell                                                           	11                                                                           	—                                                                            	67                                                                           	1973                                                                         	1970/1975                                                                    	Campbell’s design approach
34                                                                           	Roger Brown                                                                  	30                                                                           	8                                                                            	—                                                                            	1972                                                                         	—/—                                                                          	
35                                                                           	Robert Zajonc                                                                	—                                                                            	21                                                                           	39.5                                                                         	—                                                                            	1978/—                                                                       	Zajonc social facilitation
36                                                                           	Endel Tulving                                                                	32.5                                                                         	47.5                                                                         	—                                                                            	1988                                                                         	1983/—                                                                       	
37                                                                           	Herbert A. Simon                                                             	32.5                                                                         	—                                                                            	24                                                                           	1953                                                                         	1969/—                                                                       	
38                                                                           	Noam Chomsky                                                                 	—                                                                            	28                                                                           	39.5                                                                         	1972                                                                         	1984/—                                                                       	
39                                                                           	Edward E. Jones                                                              	57                                                                           	44.5                                                                         	—                                                                            	—                                                                            	1977/—                                                                       	Jones’s correspondent inference theory
40                                                                           	Charles E. Osgood                                                            	9                                                                            	—                                                                            	97                                                                           	1972                                                                         	1960/1963                                                                    	Osgood’s transfer surface
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Remember that this is a psychology template, not a psychiatry template. -DoctorW 17:13, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! I was looking for something like this to help ID "Selected psychologists" for the Psychology portal. :-) Rfrisbietalk 20:51, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any such objective criteria for pre-20th century psychologists? The current template makes it seem like there were no psychological thinkers before the 20th century. Also, why does the article only mention experimental psychologists and not any clinical psychologists? Jagged 85 (talk) 20:30, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Most important authors in psychology

message: I'd like to recommend Nathaniel Branden for addition to this list for the following contributions:  
:1) His pioneering work in self-esteem and the impact that has had, 
:2) He also did ground-breaking work in group therapy (Life-time achievement award for techniques of individual therapy in a group setting), 
:3) His Sentence-stem technique is one of the most powerful theraputic tools I've run across, and 
:4) His philosophy of psychology (from the first half of his first book on self-esteem) models the kind of foundation any theoretical approach should have.  
He is often thought of as a pop-psychologist which isn't true given the depth of his work and the impact on the field as a whole.  He is also criticized for his association with Ayn Rand when young - but that isn't relevant to his work as a psychologist.  I'll let this sit for a while, as a kind of request for comments, before adding his name. Steve 21:39, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Did you read what is above? -DoctorW 23:56, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I read it.  And I appreciate your effort and the intent to create an objective standard.  But in the end it is hard to find methods that don't carry a bias of some sort or another - particularly when you are attempting what, at its root, is a subjective evaluation (top 100).  That is why I put this in as a call for comments.  I'm hoping to hear from other editors. You have created an excellent navigation  template - But I'm assuming, that like the rest of WP, it is here to be edited.  Steve 00:12, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Nathaniel Who? Famousdog 23:12, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Call for comments on adding [[Nathaniel Branden]] 

message: Thanks for reverting those edits, DoctorW. "Ill-conceived" is the word. This is outright boosterism. Perhaps Jagged85 would like to create a separate template to push his POV that Muslim scholars did everything hundreds of years before Europeans. Famousdog (talk) 22:48, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't remember ever claiming anything of the sort... was that meant to be a personal attack by any chance? I'll admit I didn't read this talk page before updating the template at the time, but the "objective criteria" above only lists 20th century psychologists. Why aren't there any pre-20th century psychologists or any clinical psychologists mentioned on the template? Most of the medieval Muslim scholars I added before were very similar to what we would today consider to be clinical psychologists, so I don't see any reason why they (or at least the most important ones) shouldn't be included on the template. Jagged 85 (talk) 20:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Islamic scholars 

message: The order of entries in the template was taken from the order found in the multi-method empirical study, that is, in order by importance. The length of the list was decided by the somewhat subjective judgment that Jung and Pavlov should be on it but the next several names were not as important and list shouldn't be too long. Rearranging them by alphabetical order suggests that this particular group is some kind of canonical list. It makes a lot more sense to me to keep it in order of importance, suggesting that it trails off after the names included. One could also cite the rationale behind ordering disambiguation pages by importance, though in this case there is the added argument that a continuation of the list is implied.
In any case, people making a substantial change to the template should probably argue for their change here. -DoctorW 14:27, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Order of entries in multi-method empirical study 

message: Probably everyone with a slight knowledge of psychotherapy would agree of the importance of Aaron T. Beck and Albert Ellis in modern psychotherapy. Both are the founder of the cognitive paradigm shift in psychotherapy. Psychology Today described Albert Ellis as the "greatest living psychologist," while the American Psychological Association in 2003 named him the second most influential psychologist of the twentieth century (Carl Rogers came first; Freud was third).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.117.10.100 (talk) 08:00, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea. It would take some of the pressure off the Psychology template.  —Mattisse (Talk) 00:55, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasons for adding Albert Ellis and Aaron Beck 

message: I would like to ask for suggestions. Maintaining this template is difficult, because lots of editors want to add their pet psychology topic to it, but often such additions are questionable. This has been especially true of important psychologists, but in fact this is where we've had some success. The widely cited multiple-criteria research study cited in detail above is by far the best guideline we have found, and we have been able to stick to it well. Where help is needed is in coming up with some guidelines, preferably somewhat objective, for inclusion of other items, particularly subdisciplines. There will be lots of borderline topics needing a decision.
One possibility is Google Scholar results, which is an objective, though somewhat blunt, instrument. If we use them (perhaps as one of several criteria?) we would have to make an allowance for the fact that in some cases adding the word "psychology" to the phrase will be necessary (e.g., "Evolutionary psychology"). Taking a stab at this, it looks like requiring about 10,000 Google Scholar results for a phrase that does not need to have "psychology" added, or about 5,000 results if "psychology" does need to be added. What do people think? What other objective criteria might we use? Having a division of APA? If there are a number of good, objective criteria, editors could argue for inclusion even if all criteria weren't met, but rather on the basis of being very strong on the others. Comments? -DoctorW 18:47, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What about disciplines that have APA-approved doctoral programs? (I do not know what this would yield, but my sub discipline has such programs plus an ABBP certification in the area.) —Mattisse (Talk) 00:53, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Objective inclusion criteria 

message: Because, only behaviorist psychologist have a lot of citation. I think that other psychoanalyst, modern, can be hier ! For exmaple Andre Green, Horacio Etchegoyen, etc., etc. Thank Bettibossi (talk) 13:08, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: psychoanalysis isn't psychology ! - remove Freud from this list ? --T0t0  Cugn0 (talk) 07:10, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Folks, the list is based on reliable sources per the Wikipedia content guideline WP:RS: see  and . Freud has been called a lot of things, and "psychologist" is one of them: see, e.g., IEP: "Sigmund Freud, the father of psychoanalysis, was a physiologist, medical doctor, psychologist and influential thinker..." Biogeographist (talk) 13:20, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  I don't agree with this list 

message: I'm surprised to see Ken Wilber not listed herein for his contributions to theoretical psychology and transpersonal psychology (Wilber has been described by Prof. Roger Walsh of U. of C. as the greatest theoretical psychologist of our time, and he was universally regarded as a founder and most eminent transpersonal psychologist until he disowned the field in favor of integral psychology.) While I can understand the merits of stocking the list with handpicked theorists from the article by Haggbloom, S.J., one has to consider sampling bias when not a single representative of the transpersonal or integral schools are even cited once (anybody know how many transpersonal psychologists were included in the study?).  I have added him in order to correct a bias. 
Wilber is regarded as the most widely translated academic author of our time, with twenty books translated into 34 languages or something like that. No kidding. For the uninitiated, see, e.g.,
http://www.kenwilber.com/Writings/PDF/Metagenius-part1.pdf
To pick an exemplary quote, "Ken Wilber... joins the ranks of the grand theorists of human consciousness like Ernst Cassier, Mircea Eliade, and Gregory Batesom" -- Dr. Daniel Goleman, Sr. Editor, Psychology Today
Or Dr. Silas Wesley, prof. Clinical Psychology, Yale Univ., "I consider [W‎ilber's] Up from Eden the single greatest work on psychology ever written--including Freud, Jung, et al."
And what other psychologist did Nicole Kidman mention alongside Piaget as the most influential developmental psychologist of our century in the movie "The Invasion"? Ken Wilber, of course. ;-)
http://www.kenwilber.com/Writings/PDF/Metagenius-part1.pdf
Joeperez69 (talk) 02:01, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Ken Wilber 

message: The family of articles related to memory has been developed a great deal this year. We need somehow to link into this, because it's easy to miss this from the templates. How about a row in the template for processes such as memory and perception? MartinPoulter (talk) 12:38, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  How about a list of processes? 

message: It seems to me that Psychology of religion should be listed in this template. After all, it's long had its own APA Divison 36. Also, APA will soon be publishing an official APA 2-volume handbook on psychology of religion (part of a handbook series, I believe). And APA sponsors a journal on the topic (Psychology of Religion and Spirituality). Plus, huge proportions of American adults (as well as many adults in many other countries/cultures) identify religion/spirituality as one of the most powerful and important influences in their lives. This area is different - I would say larger, and with more mainstream acceptance - than Transpersonal psychology, which is listed in the template as an "orientation" (comment: I'm not sure I'd call Psychology of religion an "orientation" since it can be, and is, studied from many different theoretical perspectives). There would seem to be at least 2 ways to proceed for inclusion in the template:
#Include "Religion" or "Religion/spirituality" among "basic" areas
#Include "Pastoral" (see Psychology of Religion#Pastoral psychology) among applied areas (perhaps not optimal, but better in my view than totally omitting PofR).
#Both of the above
Any opinions about best ways to proceed? Health Researcher (talk) 21:20, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Best way to add "Psychology of Religion/Spirituality" and/or "Pastoral Psychology" 

message: "Personality psychology" is already included in the template. Narcissism is a sub-topic of this, not a peer of it. I don't think Narcissism belongs in the template, because it's a topic within an area of psychology, rather than an area itself. Naturally, if someone can show a reliable source that treats it as a peer to the other things in the template, I'm persuadable it should be included. MartinPoulter (talk) 19:18, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Narcissism 

message: I just added Viktor Frankl to the list. He is the founder of Logotherapy, the 3rd Vienese School of Psychology (after Freud and Adler), has made great contributions to the science, and his book Man's Search for Meaning, by Wikipedia's own entry " Man's Search For Meaning belongs to a list of "the ten most influential books in [the United States]." (New York Times, November 20, 1991). At the time of the author's death in 1997, the book had sold 10 million copies in twenty-four languages." I guess someone can erase it, but I think I have put forward good reasons for him to be on the list.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.230.173.217 (talk) 07:05, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Frankl is no longer listed here, but he is listed in Template:Psychotherapy. Biogeographist (talk) 16:48, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logotherapy 

message: I have reorganized the list of psychologists in the template, combining the top 35 psychologists listed in each of the following two publications, and listing them chronologically by date of birth, resulting in a list of 55 psychologists.
===Haggbloom et al. 2002===
*  The top 50 in this publication are:
#B. F. Skinner (1904–1990)
#Jean Piaget (1896–1980)
#Sigmund Freud (1856–1939)
#Albert Bandura (b. 1925)
#Leon Festinger (1919–1989)
#Carl Rogers (1902–1987)
#Stanley Schachter (1922–1997)
#Neal E. Miller (1909–2002)
#Edward Thorndike (1874–1949)
#Abraham Maslow (1908–1970)
#Gordon Allport (1897–1967)
#Erik Erikson (1902–1994)
#Hans Eysenck (1916–1997)
#William James (1842–1910)
#David McClelland (1917–1998)
#Raymond Cattell (1905–1998)
#John B. Watson (1878–1958)
#Kurt Lewin (1890–1947)
#Donald O. Hebb (1904–1985)
#George Armitage Miller (1920–2012)
#Clark L. Hull (1884–1952)
#Jerome Kagan (b. 1929)
#Carl Jung (1875–1961)
#Ivan Pavlov (1849–1936)
#Walter Mischel (b. 1930)
#Harry Harlow (1905–1981)
#J. P. Guilford (1897–1987)
#Jerome Bruner (1915–2016)
#Ernest Hilgard (1904–2001)
#Lawrence Kohlberg (1927–1987)
#Martin Seligman (b. 1942)
#Ulric Neisser (1928–2012)
#Donald T. Campbell (1916–1996)
#Roger Brown (1925–1997)
#Robert Zajonc (1923–2008)
#Endel Tulving (b. 1927)
#Herbert A. Simon (1916–2001)
#Noam Chomsky (b. 1928)
#Edward E. Jones (1926–1993)
#Charles E. Osgood (1916–1991)
#Solomon Asch (1907–1996)
#Gordon H. Bower (b. 1932)
#Harold Kelley (1921–2003)
#Roger Wolcott Sperry (1913–1994)
#Edward C. Tolman (1886–1959)
#Stanley Milgram (1933–1984)
#Arthur Jensen (1923–2012)
#Lee Cronbach (1916–2001)
#John Bowlby (1907–1990)
#Wolfgang Köhler (1887–1967)
===Diener et al. 2014===
*  The top 50 in this publication are:
#Albert Bandura (b. 1925)
#Jean Piaget (1896–1980)
#Daniel Kahneman (b. 1934)
#Richard Lazarus (1922–2002)
#Martin Seligman (b. 1942)
#B. F. Skinner (1904–1990)
#Noam Chomsky (b. 1928)
#Shelley E. Taylor (b. 1946)
#Amos Tversky (1937–1996)
#Ed Diener (b. 1946)
#Herbert A. Simon (1916–2001)
#Carl Rogers (1902–1987)
#Larry Squire (b. 1941)
#John Anderson (b. 1947)
#Paul Ekman (b. 1934)
#Endel Tulving (b. 1927)
#Gordon Allport (1897–1967)
#John B. Watson (1878–1958)
#Richard E. Nisbett (b. 1941)
#Donald T. Campbell (1916–1996)
#George Armitage Miller (1920–2012)
#Susan Fiske (b. 1952)
#Richard Davidson (b. 1951)
#Bruce McEwen (b. 1938)
#Walter Mischel (b. 1930)
#Leon Festinger (1919–1989)
#David McClelland (1917–1998)
#Elliot Aronson (b. 1932)
#Michael Posner (b. 1936)
#Roy Baumeister (b. 1953)
#Jerome Kagan (b. 1929)
#Joseph E. LeDoux (b. 1949)
#Jerome Bruner (1915–2016)
#Robert Zajonc (1923–2008)
#Ronald C. Kessler (b. 1947)
#David Rumelhart (1942–2011)
#Robert Plomin (b. 1948)
#Daniel Schacter (b. 1952)
#Gordon H. Bower (b. 1932)
#Mary Ainsworth (1913–1999)
#James McClelland (b. 1948)
#James McGaugh (b. 1931)
#Eleanor Maccoby (b. 1917)
#Neal E. Miller (1909–2002)
#Michael Rutter (b. 1933)
#Hans Eysenck (1916–1997)
#John T. Cacioppo (b. 1951)
#Robert A. Rescorla (b. 1940)
#Alice Eagly (b. 1938)
#Sheldon Cohen (b. 1947)
===Combined list===
The combined list, combining the top 35 psychologists listed in each of the previous two publications and listed chronologically by date of birth, is:
*William James (1842–1910)
*Ivan Pavlov (1849–1936)
*Sigmund Freud (1856–1939)
*Edward Thorndike (1874–1949)
*Carl Jung (1875–1961)
*John B. Watson (1878–1958)
*Clark L. Hull (1884–1952)
*Kurt Lewin (1890–1947)
*Jean Piaget (1896–1980)
*Gordon Allport (1897–1967)
*J. P. Guilford (1897–1987)
*Carl Rogers (1902–1987)
*Erik Erikson (1902–1994)
*B. F. Skinner (1904–1990)
*Donald O. Hebb (1904–1985)
*Ernest Hilgard (1904–2001)
*Harry Harlow (1905–1981)
*Raymond Cattell (1905–1998)
*Abraham Maslow (1908–1970)
*Neal E. Miller (1909–2002)
*Jerome Bruner (1915–2016)
*Donald T. Campbell (1916–1996)
*Hans Eysenck (1916–1997)
*Herbert A. Simon (1916–2001)
*David McClelland (1917–1998)
*Leon Festinger (1919–1989)
*George Armitage Miller (1920–2012)
*Richard Lazarus (1922–2002)
*Stanley Schachter (1922–1997)
*Robert Zajonc (1923–2008)
*Albert Bandura (b. 1925)
*Roger Brown (1925–1997)
*Endel Tulving (b. 1927)
*Lawrence Kohlberg (1927–1987)
*Noam Chomsky (b. 1928)
*Ulric Neisser (1928–2012)
*Jerome Kagan (b. 1929)
*Walter Mischel (b. 1930)
*Elliot Aronson (b. 1932)
*Daniel Kahneman (b. 1934)
*Paul Ekman (b. 1934)
*Michael Posner (b. 1936)
*Amos Tversky (1937–1996)
*Bruce McEwen (b. 1938)
*Larry Squire (b. 1941)
*Richard E. Nisbett (b. 1941)
*Martin Seligman (b. 1942)
*Ed Diener (b. 1946)
*Shelley E. Taylor (b. 1946)
*John Anderson (b. 1947)
*Ronald C. Kessler (b. 1947)
*Joseph E. LeDoux (b. 1949)
*Richard Davidson (b. 1951)
*Susan Fiske (b. 1952)
*Roy Baumeister (b. 1953)
Biogeographist (talk) 16:46, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The list is fine, but templates seldom have birth and death years on them. Seems like a lot of extra space taken up by the dates. Doesn't make a major difference, but others may come along and tweak those or remove other things, so please keep an eye on the template. Thanks. Randy Kryn 17:48, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for the comment. I will keep an eye on the template. I added dates to the list of psychotherapists in Template:Psychotherapy last July and it seems to have worked well. My view is that the chronological order gives a little more context for the names, providing an overview of the development of the field and the place of each person in history, which provides so much more informational value than an (effectively random) alphabetical list. I notice that all the templates you've created that are listed on your user page also contain dates somewhere in them, providing similar contextual information (I approve!). Biogeographist (talk) 18:55, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, dates of films, events, documents, elections, books, etc., but I don't remember adding birth and death dates to any link to an individual on a template (except in the 'above' section on some, which were then discussed and removed). The chronological order of individuals by birth year is interesting, I guess I'm neutral simply because psychology is such a major field and your reasoning has merit. If others find this it may end up as a 'discussion' somewhere. Randy Kryn 20:16, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Psychologist list, March 2017 

message: The combined list, combining the top 35 psychologists listed in each of the previous two publications and listed chronologically by date of birth, is:
*William James (1842–1910)
*Ivan Pavlov (1849–1936)
*Sigmund Freud (1856–1939)
*Edward Thorndike (1874–1949)
*Carl Jung (1875–1961)
*John B. Watson (1878–1958)
*Clark L. Hull (1884–1952)
*Kurt Lewin (1890–1947)
*Jean Piaget (1896–1980)
*Gordon Allport (1897–1967)
*J. P. Guilford (1897–1987)
*Carl Rogers (1902–1987)
*Erik Erikson (1902–1994)
*B. F. Skinner (1904–1990)
*Donald O. Hebb (1904–1985)
*Ernest Hilgard (1904–2001)
*Harry Harlow (1905–1981)
*Raymond Cattell (1905–1998)
*Abraham Maslow (1908–1970)
*Neal E. Miller (1909–2002)
*Jerome Bruner (1915–2016)
*Donald T. Campbell (1916–1996)
*Hans Eysenck (1916–1997)
*Herbert A. Simon (1916–2001)
*David McClelland (1917–1998)
*Leon Festinger (1919–1989)
*George Armitage Miller (1920–2012)
*Richard Lazarus (1922–2002)
*Stanley Schachter (1922–1997)
*Robert Zajonc (1923–2008)
*Albert Bandura (b. 1925)
*Roger Brown (1925–1997)
*Endel Tulving (b. 1927)
*Lawrence Kohlberg (1927–1987)
*Noam Chomsky (b. 1928)
*Ulric Neisser (1928–2012)
*Jerome Kagan (b. 1929)
*Walter Mischel (b. 1930)
*Elliot Aronson (b. 1932)
*Daniel Kahneman (b. 1934)
*Paul Ekman (b. 1934)
*Michael Posner (b. 1936)
*Amos Tversky (1937–1996)
*Bruce McEwen (b. 1938)
*Larry Squire (b. 1941)
*Richard E. Nisbett (b. 1941)
*Martin Seligman (b. 1942)
*Ed Diener (b. 1946)
*Shelley E. Taylor (b. 1946)
*John Anderson (b. 1947)
*Ronald C. Kessler (b. 1947)
*Joseph E. LeDoux (b. 1949)
*Richard Davidson (b. 1951)
*Susan Fiske (b. 1952)
*Roy Baumeister (b. 1953)
Biogeographist (talk) 16:46, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The list is fine, but templates seldom have birth and death years on them. Seems like a lot of extra space taken up by the dates. Doesn't make a major difference, but others may come along and tweak those or remove other things, so please keep an eye on the template. Thanks. Randy Kryn 17:48, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for the comment. I will keep an eye on the template. I added dates to the list of psychotherapists in Template:Psychotherapy last July and it seems to have worked well. My view is that the chronological order gives a little more context for the names, providing an overview of the development of the field and the place of each person in history, which provides so much more informational value than an (effectively random) alphabetical list. I notice that all the templates you've created that are listed on your user page also contain dates somewhere in them, providing similar contextual information (I approve!). Biogeographist (talk) 18:55, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, dates of films, events, documents, elections, books, etc., but I don't remember adding birth and death dates to any link to an individual on a template (except in the 'above' section on some, which were then discussed and removed). The chronological order of individuals by birth year is interesting, I guess I'm neutral simply because psychology is such a major field and your reasoning has merit. If others find this it may end up as a 'discussion' somewhere. Randy Kryn 20:16, 4 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Combined list

message: As can be seen in the section that currently heads this talk page, , User:DoctorW argued (correctly, in my view) in October 2006: "Everyone has their pet theories and theorists, so some objective measure is needed to determine who the most important authors in psychology are." User:DoctorW chose a peer-reviewed article in the Review of General Psychology (Haggbloom et al. 2002) that was available at that time to establish a list of the most important authors in psychology for this template. In March 2017 (see ) I added psychologists from another peer-reviewed article in the Archives of Scientific Psychology (Diener et al. 2014) by combining the top 35 psychologists listed in each publication. There was no objection to this procedure. If there is another peer-reviewed listing of most important psychologists that should be considered in addition to, or in place of, these two publications, please present it here. I oppose the recent addition of Arthur Janov because I see no objective evidence that he has any special importance (among hundreds of other possible candidates for this list) that would justify his addition to Template:Psychology. You might consider adding Janov to Template:Psychotherapy instead, since he is most known as the creator of primal therapy, and Template:Psychotherapy does not appear to have established any inclusion criteria for its list of therapists beyond having a Wikipedia article and having practiced psychotherapy. Biogeographist (talk) 20:38, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, added Janov to the Psychotherapy template. Randy Kryn (talk) 11:02, 4 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Objective inclusion criteria, again 

message: , I'm late to this discussion, and I appreciate what a great job you've done here to apply an objective criteria rather than just adopting the "insert my fave psychologist here" approach. I'd just like to weigh in on the subject of the birth-death dates. It does seem a bit unusual to include these in the template and it does take up a lot of space, which could theoretically be used to expand the list a bit. I would much rather that more names are included and the list alphabetized, rather than being chronological. Could we consider that? Famousdog (woof)(grrr) 08:01, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the chronological order needs to be removed in order to add more names; the number of names included from the two articles cited above is arbitrary, and the complete combined list of names from both articles could be included. As I noted above:  The names in Template:Psychotherapy (which was split off from this template) are also listed chronologically, but no inclusion criteria have been established for that template. Biogeographist (talk) 11:17, 26 April 2018 (UTC)

text: Since the chronology is by date of birth, death dates could be excluded to save space. Biogeographist (talk) 11:20, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth-death dates 

message: Paul Meehl should be added. Psychological assessment (like construct validity, base rates). Genetic theory of schizophrenia. Methods in soft psychology such as null hypothesis significance testing. Please discuss. Vrie0006 (talk) 01:07, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: See the discussions above about objective inclusion criteria. Meehl ranks 179 in . So if we keep the inclusion criteria objective, we would have to add a lot of other psychologists before adding Meehl. Or we would need to cook up a new analysis designed to rank Meehl higher! Biogeographist (talk) 12:08, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wow, that's much lower than I expected. The list is a bit strange but I don't know of a better way to do it. For example, I find it crazy that Francis Galton isn't included. Nature v. Nurture, founder of psychometrics and differential psychology as fields. Etc. But there's no phrase "Galtonian" and his work is not extensively cited. I suppose the Diener article misses him b/c of its focus on 20th century? Vrie0006 (talk) 02:41, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm a little suspicious of the Diener article given that Diener himself ranks so highly in it. I would welcome a better alternative. Biogeographist (talk) 11:40, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paul Meehl? 

message: I added coaching psychology but I have my doubts whether it meets inclusion criteria as it is an emerging sub-discipline in psychology. What is the inclusion criteria for disciplines that are not (yet) accepted globally? Is there a similar list of psychology sub-disciplines ordered by importance in the same way as you ordered the psychologists by their impact factor? Notgain (talk) 07:20, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coaching psychology 

message: I saw the French version, and I think it looks pretty good. If you want, I can reuse the same style here in the English template. What do you think ? Alenoach (talk) 04:30, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean by ? Exactly what changes are you proposing? You can make the proposed changes in a sandbox if that is easier than describing them. The items in the French version look strangely random to me: Mental imagery and Myers Briggs Type Indicator and Psychological testing are grouped together in the same category?! I would say the English template is much better organized than the French one. Biogeographist (talk) 16:14, 14 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I was just thinking about the visual appearance, not the content. Here is a sandbox version. Alenoach (talk) 01:35, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the clarification. I see no reason to object to that change of appearance. Biogeographist (talk) 18:11, 18 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style 

message: There is nothing in the WP:NAVBOX guideline that says that lists of person names in navboxes must be last names only, as  claimed in this edit summary. First and last names were long established in this navbox, as were the inclusion criteria. Biogeographist (talk) 17:59, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  First and last names