Talk:Punjabi Khatri

message: I am a Muslim Khatri from Jhalum living in Canada since 1992. Here in Canada, I met my Hindu Khatri relatives who migrated to India in 1947. We share same language, foods and other cultural traits and enjoy each others company here in Canada. It was very sad that we were not not able to see each other when we were living in our respective countries. Now here in North Amereica we are again relatives and good friends.
I am writing these words after reading about vandalism by 169.229.83.204. I just wanted to say that please do not create same controvesy as being created with the article of Rajput. It is a historical fact that some Khatris accepted Islam and now living in Pakistan and are very susccessful in industry and business. We are Muslim but proud of our Hindu Khatri heritage and would like to a have brotherly reltionship with our Hindu or Sikh brethren living in India.
1/20/2006 - to Muslim Khatri living in Canada
As a Hindu Khatri I fully endorse your sentiments. This is no place for crude prejudices of the type displayed by 169.229.83.204. We'll just have to watch out for him and his ilk on this forum. Thanks  for restoring the section on Muslim Khatris.
- to Muslim Khatri living in Canada 
I really respect Khatris, I don't care if they are Muslims, Hindus, Sikhs, Christians, or whatever religion. Brother u must realize that we are the most hated community in Punjab. If you tell someone you are a khatri, they will smack you in the face. The reason is that we have done too many sacrifices for other people. Millions of khatris have been killed in the wars between India and Pakistan. If u are khatri, I request that u never join any army, whether it is Indian or Pakistani. We are a very small population now and our population has been decreasing for the past several decades. I don't want to see my people (religion doesn't matter) get wiped out like this. What have we earned from all the sacrifices we have made? Genetics has proven that Khatris are a race, we have different Alleles 8 and some other alleles than other populations in the world. We, along with other Indians are a mixture of Europeans, East Asians, South Asians and Middle Easterners. But nevertheless, we all have a specific allele 8 length that differs from other populations of the world suggesting that Khatris are a race.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.59.112.63 (talk) 03:51, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Note from a Muslim Khatri living in Canada (1/20/2006)

message: Thanks for the great additions to the articles.  
I think we need more historical material, specially for the period before 1800s. We also need some good references.
Should the article be just "Khatri" and not "Punjabi Khatri"? While Punjab is indeed the ancient home, Khatris can no longer be considered a mere regional entity. Many Khatris have lived outside of Punjab for several centuries. 
What do you think?
--Vikramsingh 01:49, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some ideas

message: I am amazed by the persistant vandalism by SanjayMohan. 
He keeps inserting text that is not only nonsense, he attempts to  ridicule and demonize (literally demonize by calling Khatris descendants of the "Asuras") the khatris.
I request Wikipedia administrators that he and his IP address be disabled from vandalizing Wikipedia.--ISKapoor 20:33, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism by SanjayMohan

message: Who is SanjayMohan? What does he want to achieve by claiming that Khatris are "asuras" (demons)?
--Vikramsingh 02:39, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who is SanjayMohan?

message: Not Diwan Sawan Mal as you claim - he was not even born at the time you mentioned. You have been taken in by the claim in the link you provide.
Click on link for Diwan Sawan Mal.--ISKapoor 00:46, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Who invented Sohan Halwa

message: @http://punjabrevenue.nic.in/gaz_ldh8.htm add this too, I don't have permission :(
    
Khatris. – Khatri is a popular variant of the Sanskrit word Kashtrya, which was used to describe the warrior caste among the Hindu according to the varanashram propounded by the Shastras. In course of time as a result of economic and political exigencies, however, the Khatris also resorted to mercantile occupations, which were originally adopted by the Vaisas, the trading classes.   
Like Brahmans there are further sub-divisions amongst Khatris-Bannjais, Sarin, Dhaigharas, chargharas, etc. in the reign of Alaudin Khiliji widoe re-marriage was enforced. Fifty-two castes of Khatris are said to have submitted a memorandum, duly signed, to the Emperor. The signatory castes are called Banjais. Certain castes of eastern Punjab refused to sign the memorandum and were called Shari-Ain, later corrupted to that of Sarin. The Khokhrain baradari is said to consist of the descendants of certain families of Khatris who were believed to have joined the Khokhars in a rebellion and with them other Khatri families were loath to have matrimonial relations. The Bahri section of the descendants of Mehr Chand, Khan Chand and Kapur Chand, three Khatris who went to Delhi in attandance upon one of Akhar’s Rajput wives, and who thus separated from rest of the Khatri castes, married only within each other’s families. the number of the members of this caste is fairly large. The more prominenty, however, in point of social rank are the Mehrotra or Mehra, Khanna, Kapur and the Seth sub-castes.   
Prior to partition certain castes, such as churamani, Nanda. Khullar, Jerath, Chopra and Vij were particularly associated with Ludhiana ; Bahl, Kapur, Mehra, Seth, Beri Sencher and Dhir with jagraon ; Batte, sondhi and Karir with Machhiwara and Bahlolpur ; sehgal and Thapar with Rai kot and Had and Cham with Khanna. After partition different castes of Khatris have been widely dispersed with the result that it is very difficult to ascertain their numbers caste-wise, especially because compilation of statistics according to castes has been discontinued since 1947.   
Khatris are generally mild in disposition. They are mostly literate and law abiding.    
Khatris in the district are a great commercial class. They have also made their mark in industry. In Payal sub-tahsil they are generally land-owners. They also engage themselves in Government or private service.
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Since there is so much vandalism on this article and it contains needless amount of details of a community...brevity would be better so not to attract unnecessary attacks from disrespectful quarters.....suggest delete this page altogether and replace it with the much more concise and polite article titled khatri which already exsists in wikipedia. I am a khatri myself and dont see much reason to unnecessarily brandish it.  03/18/06.
KINDLY INFORM .TRUE AUTHENTIC HISTORICAL INFORMATION IS WELLCOME  WE ARE FROM AMRITSAR AND VILLAGE CHOWNK MEHTA NOT MOHYALS  BUT KHATRIES OF PUNJAB  WITH SURNAME AS VAID  AND GOTRA AS RAGHUVANSH AS TOLD BY MY ANCESSTORS. ONE OF OUR ANCESSTORS WAS A SIKH  AT THE TIME OF RAJA RANJEETSINGH.USED  TO GIVE MONEY FOR THEIR VARIOUS  MISELES TO FIGHT.SOME GENERATIONS KNOWN  TO  ME AS .MY FATHER HARI OM VAID ,GRANDFATHER MASTER KASMIRI LAL VAID, GREAT GRAND FATHER MOHAN LAL VAID BETTER KNOWN AS MONA SHA  USED TO BE THE ZAMINDAR OF CHOWNK MEHTA PIND.ANY FURTHER INFORMATION IS WELLCOME. I AM TRYING TO KNOW MY LEANAGE . THANX REGARDS.suniilraghuvansh@gmail.com  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.60.11.30 (talk) 17:30, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Census taken by Punjab Government 

message: Since there is so much vandalism on this article and it contains needless amount of details of a community...brevity would be better so not to attract unnecessary attacks from disrespectful quarters.....suggest delete this page altogether and replace it with the much more concise and polite article titled khatri which already exsists in wikipedia. I am a khatri myself and dont see much reason to unnecessarily brandish it.  03/18/06.
KINDLY INFORM .TRUE AUTHENTIC HISTORICAL INFORMATION IS WELLCOME  WE ARE FROM AMRITSAR AND VILLAGE CHOWNK MEHTA NOT MOHYALS  BUT KHATRIES OF PUNJAB  WITH SURNAME AS VAID  AND GOTRA AS RAGHUVANSH AS TOLD BY MY ANCESSTORS. ONE OF OUR ANCESSTORS WAS A SIKH  AT THE TIME OF RAJA RANJEETSINGH.USED  TO GIVE MONEY FOR THEIR VARIOUS  MISELES TO FIGHT.SOME GENERATIONS KNOWN  TO  ME AS .MY FATHER HARI OM VAID ,GRANDFATHER MASTER KASMIRI LAL VAID, GREAT GRAND FATHER MOHAN LAL VAID BETTER KNOWN AS MONA SHA  USED TO BE THE ZAMINDAR OF CHOWNK MEHTA PIND.ANY FURTHER INFORMATION IS WELLCOME. I AM TRYING TO KNOW MY LEANAGE . THANX REGARDS.suniilraghuvansh@gmail.com  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.60.11.30 (talk) 17:30, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
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message: Khatris are classified as a standard class only in Punjab .In rest of India many Khatris are either classified as scheduled caste or even lower then maha dalit class.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Simba100 (talk • contribs) 23:00, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Khatris are classified as a standard class only in Punjab .In rest of India many Khatris are either classified as scheduled caste or even lower then maha dalit class.