Talk:The Ninth Configuration

message: The problem with the debate on this page, if the two works are related,and the debate about the time, completely fail to consider The Exorcist was published in 1971, two years before the movie was released, and early enough for the astronaut to be a character in both books, even if movies don't address the connection.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:3C8:4280:4DC0:CC38:DF21:8A8:81D6 (talk) 18:42, 9 February 2024 (UTC)

message: I copied this from the Reference Desk cause it might be useful here. Recury 02:13, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no clue what the character in the movie is talking about, but you might be interested in the article Origin of life.  --Allen 20:28, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I have never heard of a protein molecule of the ninth configuration. I am thinking this figure comes from the 9 human essential amino acids. Also, the figure cited I would think is not very reliable ("the kind that you make up, not look up"). Besides, it wouldn't take that long for a few atoms to hook up in the right way—that's 10251 years. That's several orders of magnitude greater than the estimated lifespan of the universe. Heh. — [Mac Davis](talk) (SUPERDESK|Help me improve)20:31, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Probably fictional.  Peter Grey 20:33, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

text: You don't, because of the randomity, the ignorance. I tried to keep from saying the number was bullshit, but I guess it is evident. — [Mac Davis](talk) (SUPERDESK|Help me improve)21:21, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

text: thats mostly bollocks (nineth configuration??) wrapped around an actual nugget of truth, the Levinthal paradox. Xcomradex 21:37, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Having read the essential amino acids and Levinthal paradox articles, it seems pretty likely to me he is applying the Levinthal paradox to essential amino acids to make his argument for ID. If my memory of the film is right, he does mention that the amount of time it would take is longer than the lifespan of the universe, which I guess is the point of the argument. Which "configuration" is supposed to be ninth out of nine is beyond me. Recury 22:07, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

text: which, as mentioned in the levinthal paradox article, is a pretty weak argument. Xcomradex 22:51, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Protein molecules of the ninth configuration?" 

message: This has been flagged for over a year, is still written as a personal essay, and is still completely unsourced.  Moving it here until someone can "fix" it.
==Connection to The Exorcist series==
William Peter Blatty once referred to The Ninth Configuration as the true sequel to The Exorcist, and has stated that he intended the character of Captain Cutshaw to be the same astronaut whom a sleepwalking Regan in The Exorcist warns, "You're going to die up there." In The Ninth Configuration, Cutshaw mentions a fear of dying in space that is almost certainly a reference to Regan's line in the previous film. However, the characters were played by different actors, and the astronaut in The Exorcist is not given a name onscreen or by the credits.
Although The Ninth Configuration is quite dissimilar to The Exorcist in terms of story and tone, both films feature theological discussions between their respective characters which address questions of faith, the mystery of goodness vs evil, and the existence of God and the Devil. The motif of a saint's medallion as a symbol of faith appears in both The Exorcist and The Ninth Configuration; also of interest is the fact that some dialogue from Blatty's discarded, first-draft screenplay for The Exorcist was re-used in The Ninth Configuration.
From the original Exorcist screenplay:
 
From the final version of The Ninth Configuration:
 
and
 
Several cast members from The Ninth Configuration would go on to appear in 1990's The Exorcist III (written and directed by William Peter Blatty): Jason Miller, Ed Flanders, Scott Wilson and George DiCenzo; also, Nicol Williamson, who was originally cast in The Ninth Configuration, appears in Exorcist III.
If we're now allowing free-wheeling supposition like this, I'd like to add my tuppence that the only "connection to The Exorcist series" is that both were written by the same man. 12.233.146.130 (talk) 23:07, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced personal essay 

message: Obviously I watched the wrong The Ninth Configuration. There's nothing remotely supernatural about this film, and it's not a horror film either, even if that point is perhaps slightly more debatable.2A02:C7F:7401:8700:A5E6:A31E:6B11:B1A0 (talk) 11:03, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Supernatural horror film"