Talk:2007 Indianapolis 500

message: *I have a few thoughts about the work so far, it's looking good.
**I moved the quals chrono chart to its own header down below the individual days, right before the starting grid section. That way we can have all four days included in one chart, and have it flow top-to-bottom relevant with info, without skipping back up and back down to look at the days. I think it's best if we only include the day's quals results (1-11, 12-22, 23-33) for each of the day's results, since that's the only cars that matter on that day.
**Also, the quals chrono chart is great (thanks by the way), but it looks a lot better when it matches the format of the rest of the tables on the page. It kind of didn't match the rest of the page until now, so it looked better when it was rewritten (thanks by the way). And then I further tweaked the script slightly to make the color match.
:::Thanks; it looks very nice now.  One quick comment: should we label the two "time" columns (one time of day, one duration of the qualifying attempt) differently to distinguish them somehow?  If so, how? Chuck 00:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page Looking Good

message: I'll be updating the qualification chronology here as it becomes available. Feel free to use it as a starter for updating the article. --Mycroft.Holmes 22:22, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool.  I see you've got them going back to 1996 too, so I'll try to add the older ones as I have time. Chuck 01:12, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: With the exception of 1994 and 1995, I have the chronologies all the way back to 1967.--Mycroft.Holmes 01:15, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is just my own personal preference, but I'd rather see the "Result" column left-justfied.--Mycroft.Holmes 02:05, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree - I think it looks better that way.  Done. Chuck 02:50, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Be bold! :) Chuck 22:47, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Qualification Chronology

message: It's getting rather tiresome the way people have been changing Dario's (and others') flags it seems everyday. There doesn't seem to be any consensus of which one to use. But...According to this official picture...of Dario himself, his driving uniform has a flag of Scotland. http://www.indianapolismotorspeedway.com/photo/build_photo_ims.php?photo_id=52375&size=med If Dario thinks of himself as being "from Scotland," then people should quit saying he's from "Great Britian." My 2¢ Doctorindy 18:26, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a discussion going on at Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Motorsport#British vs English/Scottish/Welsh/etc. Chuck 18:47, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not just the US media which has Franchitti down as a Scot. So does the BBC website. His nationality is extremely well-known, and many wonderful references can be given, per official policy: WP:VERIFY. --Mais oui! 04:46, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dario Franchitti flag

message: I added a short piece about the race being broadcast in HD for the first time. Normally, a race in HD is not a big deal, but with all of the complaints from people about the 500 not being in HD, I felt it was something that needed to be put in. Thunderstix33 03:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand; I'm watching it right now on an HD channel, and it's not in HD. Never mind, it switched itself into HD.  How odd.  --Brandon Dilbeck 22:49, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: HDTV

message: The qualification results  lists times & speeds of completed laps for incomplete qualification attempts.  Why shouldn't we include these in the qualifying chronology? Chuck 15:31, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time & speed for incomplete qualifying attempts 

message: I noticed that there is a lot of good tabular data about the race, but not much detail about what happened during the race.  The practice and qualification days have more narrative than the race itself.  --rogerd 02:19, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Narrative 

message: Traditionally, race speeds are reported for all drivers finishing on the lead lap. Here are the race speeds for 2007:
1	Dario Franchitti	 0.0000	9843.5608	151.774
2	Scott Dixon	         0.3610	9843.9218	151.769
3	Helio Castroneves	 1.8485	9845.4093	151.746
4	Sam Hornish Jr.	         4.6324	9848.1932	151.703
5	Ryan Briscoe	         5.2109	9848.7717	151.694
6	Scott Sharp	         9.3470	9852.9078	151.630
7	Tomas Scheckter	        11.3823	9854.9431	151.599
8	Danica Patrick	        12.1789	9855.7397	151.587
9	Davey Hamilton	        15.4116	9858.9724	151.537
10	Vitor Meira	        17.6991	9861.2599	151.502
11	Jeff Simmons	        19.7119	9863.2727	151.471
12	Tony Kanaan	        21.4339	9864.9947	151.445
13	Michael Andretti	35.1235	9878.6843	151.235
I'd add it myself, but I hate editing wikitables.--Mycroft.Holmes 12:38, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Race Speeds 

message: Traditionally, time differences are not reported for drivers not on the lead lap. I guess if we're gonna report that, we should put "n laps + " in front of the time diff for drivers not on the lead lap. However, I'm not really sure exactly what that means. Personally, if I can't derive a race time from the number reported, I'd rather not see it. --Mycroft.Holmes 12:42, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time Diffs 

message: I noticed there is somewhat of an edit war going on about what flag icon to use next to Dario Franchitti (Scotland vs. UK) there was a similar problem when Dan Wheldon (England vs. UK) won it in 2005.  Even though Franchitti associates with Scotland, his nationality and passport is British.  If you are going to put the flag of Scotland next to Franchitti, then you should put the flag of Ohio next to Sam Hornish.  --rogerd 23:30, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  National flags 

message: Given the length of this page (and likely final length of the 2008 Indianapolis 500 page), I'm inclined to think the information about practice and qualifications (sections 3 through 8 of the current page) should be split out into a separate page (2007 Indianapolis 500 practice and qualifications)--see WP:SIZE--and replaced here with a brief prose summary of the highlights of practice and qualifications (with a "Main article" link to the page with the full details).  I think most readers will be interested in the details of the race itself, and right now you have to scroll down quite a bit (or click on the subsection in the table of contents) to get to that.  Thoughts? Chuck (talk) 00:13, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just realized there's a template to draw attention to this discussion from the main pages. Chuck (talk) 22:42, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Reply: I think having everything on one page (similar to Formula One race pages) is a better idea. GeoffEighinger (talk) 03:38, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. SInce we didn't do it last year, we shouldn't start this year.209.20.219.145 (talk) 19:33, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Don't Split One page is perfectly fine. Tavix (talk) 04:21, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split practice/qualifications into separate page? 

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