Talk:Dickin Medal

message: i think it is Apollo the pigeon i checked on discovery channel
Find a reliable source (Newspaper, official documents, etc) and feel free to edit. 24.205.34.217 18:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
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message: I still feel that it is superfluous to highlight that the former British Commonwealth is now the Commonwealth of Nations in relation to the original 1943-1949 series of Dickin Medals. The renaming of the Commonwealth took place in April 1949, and only two Dickin Medals were awarded after this date: Tich the dog on 1 July 1949 for actions during WW2, and Simon the cat on 8 August 1949 (date confirming award) for actions in April-through-July 1949.
In other words, of the original series of 54 medals, 52 were awarded before the renaming, and 53 were for actions prior to the change (the latter also applies to the special "late" award for Gander). After Simon's award, the medal was officially replaced with the non-war-specific PDSA Silver Medal (I have also corrected my mistaken reference to the more recent Gold Medal).
The current status of the "modern" 2002-onwards award as to whether it is British, Commonwealth or global is not clear from the PDSA website. The two military awards are to British dogs, albeit one attached to Canadian forces at the time. All three 9/11 dogs are, of course, American, but may be viewed as "exceptional" in the same way that an honorary knighthood can be awarded to a non-Commonwealth citizen (e.g. Bob Geldof and Bill Gates).
I would hope that the text as it now stands is a reasonable compromise.
Nick Cooper 19:48, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of "British Commonwealth"/"Commonwealth of Nations" 

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message: "A special "one-off" posthumous Dickin Medal award was made in 2000 to a Canadian dog named Gander for actions in 1941 which would have been honoured at the time, had the PDSA been informed."
This doesn't seem accurate, as the medal was not instituted until 1943. Can someone shed light on this before I edit the statement? → ROUX ₪ 23:33, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose it means "had the award then existed" but it's a rather spurious remark! May as well simplify to "A special "one-off" posthumous Dickin Medal award was made in 2000 to a Canadian dog named Gander for actions in 1941." Thanks, --mervyn (talk) 08:05, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
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message: Does anyone know if the Dickin Medal was awarded to Swansea Jack? ViennaUK (talk) 10:08, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, because Swansea Jack died in 1937 and the Dickin Medal was only instituted in 1943. Annetromney (talk) 10:14, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swansea Jack 

message: I don't see a need for the footnotes to be bold, while references are not. --Dweller (talk) 11:59, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Nor do I, nor do I.  And now they're not. The Rambling Man (talk) 17:54, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Footnotes 

message: On my screen, the second, third and fourth images are crashing across the table (covering the "references" column, but with the blue "[11]" etc showing over the photos).  A right mess.  Is anyone else having this problem?  Firefox 5.0, widescreen laptop. BencherliteTalk 08:00, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The images impinge the table on my screen, but only if I go down below about 1000px, also using Windows FF5.0.1... Worst in IE though, I'm removing them.  Seemed no trouble in Safari... The Rambling Man (talk) 08:15, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
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message: Sasha and her handler were not likely to have been "shot dead in a Taliban ambush" as they were killed in a rocket attack.101.98.175.68 (talk) 08:24, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Chrisrus (talk) 09:11, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Provided. Nick Cooper (talk) 11:44, 29 April 2014 (UTC)
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message: Was the Dickin Medal the only recognised medal for pigeons?  I wonder if anyone has any knowledge of a medal I have, which appears to be for pigeons as it has a pigeon on it, with a shield below it and above it the letters "PP" which I imagine could mean "Pigeon Post".  It is silver, and on the back has the makers mark V&S, an anchor, a lion and the letter C. These mean Birmingham and the Year 1902. So it pre-dates the Dicken medal, and before the First World War. I would add a photo of it but cannot see how to do that.--Zembu (talk) 13:43, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
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message: The numbers at the top of the article don't match the chart at the bottom. It says 18 dogs and 3 horses, but the chart has 31 dogs and 4 horses. I didn't bother to count the pigeons or the total number of animals to see if they match.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:5CA:4100:D800:5557:F8B1:9D26:2AAF (talk) 16:54, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Read it again. It has a year range. The Rambling Man (talk) 20:44, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The numbers don't add up 

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message: could you provide any links to consensus established policy/guideline that duplicate links in sortable tables are encouraged or at least should not be removed (I can't find any)? Your edit summary, "sortable table so no guarantee first item is linked item after re-sort", accompanying your reversion of my edit to remove the duplicate links, was gratefully received, but I disagree that the re-sorting of a table from its default (and the obvious possible effects on visible link order) is justification for excessive duplicate linking. It is a user action, that may not be employed; the links are still on the page and the "first occurrence" guidance while minimizing duplication is only generally adopted as a convenience to readers. It can be argued that excessive links are an inconvenience. If the reader chooses to not maintain that order, that's really their choice. If there is no already established consensus, we will need to discuss this issue. Cheers. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 18:34, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I suggest you bring it up at WT:FLC where there has been a general consensus to link linkable items every time in a sortable table for around ten years.   Or check sortable lists at WP:FL, of which there are thousands.  I think you'll see the same approach.  I have nothing more to add. The Rambling Man (talk) 19:43, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for responding; not a useful way to go about discussing anything (saying effectively that "there are some things somewhere near here that might say something about it if you can find them" is lazy and obstructive), but thanks anyway. I think it would be appropriate to have this discussion with a wider audience, and get some definitive guidance established. I'll look into it. Fred Gandt · talk · contribs 20:33, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Get lost, calling me lazy and obstructive.  If you had bothered to do any research into it, you'd know that a consensus exists, certainly for featured lists, to adopt this approach.  Enjoy looking into it.  The Rambling Man (talk) 05:50, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
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message: Hey-o. I was looking at this article and noticed that it said that the most recent recipient of the Dickin Medal was Kuno (awarded on August 29th, 2020), but it's actually Leuk (awarded on April 23rd, 2021, almost eight months after Kuno). Admittedly, if I knew how to make the proper changes, I would have changed it by now. But I unfortunately don't, so I'll just put this here for someone else to take care of it. ;v;
1700 (talk) 16:26, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Most Recent Recipient" Part Outdated 

message: Congrats to the writers for this very interesting article! Quick question though, that I can't find a clear answer to: my understanding is that it's not a military award, it's granted by PDSA, a non-public/non-military organization, the article doesn't mention the fact that it is, but the categories do. I don't find a clear answer on whether it qualifies as a military award. The military awards page on WP clearly states: "civil decorations awarded to military personnel should not be considered military decorations" (no reference though) but it seems to apply more to awards that have a military branch but for civil actions. Would you have a definitive answer? (Question is basically coming from FR:WP) Bombastus (talk) 07:49, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Military" award 

message: I've noticed that the article states that the ribbon of the medal is "green, dark brown, and pale blue", but the photograph and ribbon bar show this in the opposite direction (blue, brown, green).  The image on the PDSA website (linked in the article) shows the direction as stated in the text of the article, which makes me believe this to be the canonical direction. 86.31.144.174 (talk) 11:53, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Querying the canonical direction of colours