Talk:Cherokee language

message: 15,000 to 22,000 is way too high of an estimate, especially if you are talking about fluent speakers. Even speaker that are conversant in the languages are probably well under 10,000.Uyvsdi (talk) 23:48, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Speaker Estimate

message: Question: are the o and e symbols given in the vowel chart correct?  Both members of each pair are marked as long.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lhislop (talk • contribs) 02:00, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That was certainly a mistake, and I've corrected it. But I also have a question about Cherokee phonology. The syllabary has separate symbols for syllables starting with  and with . Are these really consonant clusters in Cherokee, or are they rather the lateral affricate  and the labialized velar stop ? If these two are actually single segments, they should be added to the consonant inventory table. +Angr 23:43, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Phonology

message: I have read that the Cherokee language for example has many of the sounds that are now essential to the Southern American Accent, as do cousins of the Cherokee from the other Five Civilized Tribes. Remember that during the early times of European settlement in the American South that Native American tribes were equal or superior in influence to European settlers (with lots of intermarriage) and thus may have helped to shape early Southern American dialect and pronunciation.
Later on the massive influx of West African slaves may had added another layer of influence to various Southern American accents especially since "house slaves" (as opposed to slaves who worked in the fields) played a major role in raising white children. This may have also allowed West African languages to influence Southern American pronunciation and even the use of some words and grammar. 
This is not to discount the European influences on the formation of various Southern American dialects, but neither should these non-European influences be left out. 
98.245.150.162 (talk) 23:11, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: African influences on South American English is well documented - I've never heard of Native American influences, and frankly I don't see how that would have happened.·Maunus·ƛ· 23:16, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: WP can only include info from reliable published sources, ans such information must be verifiable to other readers. You need to be more specific than "I have read that", otherwise it can't be included in the article. - BilCat (talk) 23:48, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, new sections go at the bottom of talk pages, not the top. Cresix (talk) 23:52, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Cherokee Influence on Formation of the Southern American (English) Accent

message: We need reliable sources for population estimates.  Some random web page is not appropriate.  This appears to be an attempt at population-inflation.  Understandable as wishful thinking, but again not appropriate.  Bear in mind that "speakers" may mean anyone who's learned the language, whereas we give an estimate for native speakers.  It would be wonderful if native English-speaking Cherokee are teaching their children Cherokee as their first language, but we need reliable sources.  Right now the best source we have is the 2010 census.  Censuses are generally not too accurate when it comes to languages, though, so it would be better if we could come up w something better.  — kwami (talk) 21:06, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cherry-picking sources to inflate population 

message: Osiyo! We are editing from a Cherokee language learning Meetup at the National Museum of the American Indian in Washington, D.C. We add links to the external links section of this article when we discover new resources useful for others who are studying the Cherokee language. I would hope that Wikipedians would consider keeping these links and making this article useful for people who are actually speaking the language and keeping it alive, not just for linguists. Sgi! (Thank you!) --Djembayz (talk) 17:28, 27 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links section and needs of language learners 

message: See Talk:Status of the Cherokee language for the reasons and that article's history for potential content that might be useful here. Biosthmors (talk) pls notify me (i.e. ) while signing a reply, thx 23:31, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  I redirected an article back here 

message: https://dnaconsultants.com/cherokees-spoke-greek-came-east-mediterranean. This is a site that explains that there is Greek influence in Cherokee language and art. There are even small remnants of Greek D.N.A in Cherokees.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:860A:6300:DC6D:2D94:795D:F009 (talk) 15:27, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Hellenic languages|Hellenic]] substrate in [[Cherokee language|Cherokee]] or [[Language shift|language shift]]

message: The introduction section states that Cherokee is the Native language of the Americas with the most published literature, but only offers the bible as an example. I'm pretty sure the bible has been translated into most every extant language of the Americas (amirite?). It would be nice to have better examples, since Cherokee does hold this honored distinction.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2402:7500:445:5CA4:B18F:F0D8:D6D1:3505 (talk) 16:45, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction: Native American Language with most Published Literature 

message: A new draft for a Durbin Feeling, Cherokee National Treasure page includes language classes, books and the future learning center authorized in 2019. It would be great to mention Durbin Feeling, a Cherokee Linguist, and link to this page at least once in this article. Collaboration is appreciated! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Durbin_Feeling,_Cherokee_National_Treasure  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:DCE0:ADB0:D548:25DB:EC33:1A9B (talk) 21:04, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Durbin Feeling Language Center and other updates 

message: That can't possibly be true. Mexico is in North America, and complete books have been published in Nahuatl for hundreds of years, as well as numerous dictionaries. Jimhoward72 (talk) 17:20, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "as it is the indigenous language of North America in which the most literature has been published" ? 

message: The Google Site given for Cherokee country names is a dead link. If there is a WayBack Machine link, could someone replace it with that?  Chmess (talk) 00:00, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link for country names 

message: "About eight fluent speakers die each month, and only a handful of people under the age of 40 are fluent." The cited news article certainly does not explicitly make the latter claim (It is perhaps implied, however, a handful is a claim too specific to be inferred). I also have my doubts about the validity of the first claim (That 8 speakers die per month), as the cited article is not a survey, but rather a seemingly deleted news article reporting on some panelist. Is it not better to simply remove this sentence altogether? Boundary.operator (talk) 02:45, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think so. I made some clarifying / attribution / copy editing edits. Biosthmors (talk) 21:04, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for these claims?