Talk:Menstrual cycle/Archive 1

message: Anyhow,  I recommand a new article named Menstruation to include all the cultural aspects as in <nowikide:Menstruation</nowiki> 
See "What links here": there are many items regarding the simple fact of "menstruation", pretty far away of a "cycle" -- Robodoc.at 10:58, 1 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Menstruation as a new Article 

message: Adha does literaly means 'a hurt'! Why did you change the text? Do you understand Arabic? A. 04:42, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand Arabic. I checked several English translations of the Quran and found that they contain different versions of that sentence, but none has the parenthesized inserts that your quote has. I think it is always important to cleanly distinguish between the literal text and an explanation, to avoid confusing the reader. Generally, if you put some text in double quotes in italics in its own paragraph and cite a Quran position afterwards, readers will assume that the paragraph is a literal quote from the Quran; the purpose of my edits was to avoid this mistaken assumption. I hope you can live with the current version of the article. Cheers, AxelBoldt 19:37, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Islam & menstruation 

message: Hi.  I just read the main article as well as some associated articles.  It was unclear to me what happens to the egg that is travelling down the Fallopian tube but is not fertilized.  Does it finishes its journey and ends up being eliminated along with the endometrium or does it stay in the tube and is somehow destroyed? As a matter of fact, I vaguely remember reading somewhere that the second hypothesis is what happens, and that the "reabsorption" of the egg by the female organism would be responsible for PMS.  Is there any truth in this?  You can probably tell that I know squad about the topic, but maybe this article or some of the associated ones could use some clarifying on what exactly happens to the unfertilized egg in its fruitless trip accross the Fallopian tube.  Regards,  Redux 19:32, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happens to the egg? 

message: I noticed that this is a featured article but hope it is ok to make some extensive changes. I tried to preserve all the information that had already been accumulated. In the section on 'Islam and menstruation' I removed a section that had been verbatim taken from another website, but the link to the website has been incorporated for reference.
Ekem 17:38, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes 4/9/05 

message: I removed the following recently added sentences here because they may not be correct and were expressed clumsily. I think the ideas may be good, and probably worth including but we need to make it more specific and verified.
 
already "banked" in the ovary.  As all these proto-eggs are present in the body from ((early in fetal development-- not birth)), and wait decades until they are used to create a new human life, this has implications for chromosomal damage. (this is a bit vague)  Compare this to sperm, which are created fresh daily.  A woman's exposure to radioactivity (including X-rays) and environmental toxin has a cumulative effect on her fertility, arguably more so than on that of men. (I have not seen direct evidence for this statement; is it just speculation or can you cite support?)
It might be more precise and accurate to say, As a woman's total egg supply is formed in fetal life, to be ovulated decades later, it has been suggested that this long life-time may make the chromatin of eggs more vulnerable to division problems, breakage, and mutation than the chromatin of sperm, which are produced continuously during a man's reproductive life. This possibility is supported by the observation that conceptuses and infants of older mothers have higher rates of chromosome abnormalities than those of older fathers.
I'm not so concerned about whose wording we use as that the facts are correct, and not just vaguely "arguable". I cannot think of any examples of environmental toxins causing damage to egg chromatin, and think it unlikely that radiation exposure plays any role in the age-related chromosome abnormalities. I am confident that the latter version is supportable but not so sure about the former. Further facts welcome. alteripse 01:31, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  stale eggs & mutation 

message: I would like to see a paragraph on the least fertile time in the menstrual cycle. The discussion always focusses on the most fertile time, never the least. Personally, this is important for me because I have sex with my girl friend only in the one or two days following full onset of menstruation, in the belief that that is the least fertile time. Surely some contributor to Wikipedia has access to some truly authoritative information on this important question. David 18:23, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Least fertile time in menstrual cycle 

message: Not too long ago, it was proven that eggs do form after birth. (surprise!) I've lost the reference though, and I'm sure somebody will revert if I don't provide it. AlbertCahalan 18:39, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: See my topic below for link.  Estrus cycle is very different from the menstrual cycle.  It would be of no benefit to link here but it would help there.   --Rakista 05:42, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  error - eggs are produced after birth 

message: I just added a link to folliculogenesis in the follicular stage section (I think I forgot to log in when I did it). I wanted to point out that the image used to depict the ovarian histology in the article is erroneous. A lot of undergraduate biology books use some version of the diagram, but as I understand it follicle growth is a stacked process that runs the action-packed portion of its course in about ninety days, or three menstrual cycles. If anybody can find a more representative one... -D. Wu 02:45, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Folliculogenesis 

message: Shouldn't it make sense that that "menstruation" stage occurs last, following the "luteal phase"?  The picture supports this point, as does the first time the menstrual cycle occurs--the corpus luteum cannot degrade if it is not formed first in the previous phase.  unless the present order is the scientifically accepted order, i propose it be changed to follicular phase->ovulation->luteal phase->menstruation. -- Bubbachuck 18:31, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The cycle order 

message: the usual mix up - i doubt any woman would want to use a menstrual cup out of silicon !!
ahpook 11:41, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  silicon/silicone 

message: New eggs continue to develop in adult mice this may only effect animals that undergo an estrus cycle but it would be interesting to mention it here.  Opinions?  --Rakista 16:21, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose I will mention it on the estrus cycle page and say that it has not yet been confirmed in the menstal cycle --Rakista 05:35, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New eggs may continue to grow in mammalian species 

message: How did this make featured article?  I don't mean to be negative (and of course I intend to add to it to improve what I deem as insufficiencies) but it seems to be rather light on information (for a featured article).  There's a whole wealth of knowledge on superstitions on menstruation.  I thought the article was just giving a short summary because there's a full article on that topic, but nothing's linked! (Compare this to the anarcho-capitalism article, about which far fewer people would be capable of contributing.)  All it has is a sentence about social perception of menstruation. Is there a record of the nomination?  I clicked the above link and it didn't take me to a nomination page. MrVoluntarist 00:18, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: (Answered here.) — RandallJones 01:02, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured article? 

message: according to the page, "A regular menstrual cycle as described here only occurs in the great apes. Menstrual cycles vary in length from an average of 29 days in orangutans to an average of 37 days in chimpanzees."
though i do not know about bonobos, i am absolutely certain that common chimpanzees have estrus, not menstrual cycles. i will attempt to verify whether or not this is the case with bonobos as well. what source makes the claim that chimpanzees menstruate? thanks.--Gozar 15:30, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  See .  We share 98% of our DNA, chimps do go through menstrual cycles along with all the great apes --Rakista 05:38, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  menstruation in chimpanzees? 

message: Connecting menstrual cycle with moon apears under the title of mysticism.Webster's Third provides three definitions for Mysticism the third being "vague speculation, belief without foundation.".The word is used here in this sesnse.I guess we can find a better title to describe it , specially because the words Mysticism and mystic are defined in wikipedia in a very different way.The terms moon time and lunar period etc arose from various folk cultures (specialy those with a goddess religeon) and found their way to popular culture partly as euphemisms.So I suggest replacing the title with Ancient Goddess religeons or something like that.Pasha 01:05, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  A note on use of the words Mysticism and mystic 

message: I'm not sure how accurate the quotes from Leviticus are in representing the "Christian" view of menstruation.  I thought the laws in Leviticus (the Kosher laws, instructions to not wear clothing of mixed fabrics, etc.) were not followed at all by most Christians?
Justification for removal of text
In response to the above question I removed the following text. 
Menstruation is discussed in the third book of the Hebrew Bible, Leviticus, which details the Christian Holiness Code. Leviticus 15:19 states "And if a woman have an issue, and her issue in her flesh be blo
od, she shall be put apart seven days: and whosoever toucheth her shall be unclean until the even." http://www.carm.org/kjv/Lev/Lev_15.htm''
Further penalties are imposed on those who would engage in sexual intercourse with a woman during her menstrual cycle.
Leviticus 18:19 instructs "You shall not approach a woman to uncover her nakedness while she is in her menstrual uncleanness", while Leviticus 20:18 specifies this code further: "And if a man shall lie with a woman having her sickness, and shall uncover her nakedness; he hath discovered her fountain, and she hath uncovered the fountain of her blood: and both of them shall be cut off from among their people".  http://www.carm.org/kjv/Lev/Lev_20.htm
Christian doctrine is that Christ freed us from adherence to the Levitical laws as a way to maintain a right relationship with God. If a user knows of a Christian sect that teaches observation of these Levitical laws, we can reinsert it with the mention that it is held only among the whateverites.
Note to anonymous inserter. Please give us a source. I think you are a lone crank, not representing any significant Christian community. Do not re-insert until you can tell us which Christian sects support this, not which you think should support it. alteripse 20:34, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christianity & menstruation? 

message: Let me rephrase this: Does anyone else think we should not spin off all the religious discussion into a separate article on Religious views of menstruation? alteripse 06:47, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If anyone has enough information to make a full article out of it, I think a spin-off article is a good idea.  If someone doesn't have the information but is interested, there's a list of books about religion and menstruation here. Lyrl 14:51, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Culture and Menstruation section has grown quite a bit since this was first brought up.  Would anyone object to moving the current section into its own article? Name suggestions? Lyrl 23:48, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religious views of menstruation deserves a separate article 

message: Really? Do we want to include slang terms for all devices? I have removed it, but please feel free to reinstate if I have missed something. It happens. 22:58, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "bleeding blankie"? 

message: While this type of software seems relevant to the article, they seem to be taking over the external links section.  We now have links to menstrual cycle calendars at  babymed.com, procod.com, bloodays.com, ovulation-calculator.com, perimon.com, and kyberdigi.cz
Another menstrual calendar - ovusoft.com - used to be there, but was deleted in the last edit with no explanation.
And I'm sure there are many more out there.  It doesn't seem practical to include them all, so I'm leaning towards removing all of them from the links section.  I'm interested to see if others have any alternate suggestions, though.  Lyrl 14:33, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links - Menstrual cycle calendars 

message: I'm interested in why this entire cycle might have evolved as such in the first place, instead of other (theoretical) possibilities--shouldn't there be a section in the article about theories concerning the possible evolutionary pathways toward the menstrual cycle?  (Either that, or I didn't look hard enough.) ~GMH talk to me 08:25, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds very complicated.  You might also look at the evolution of sex article, since it encompasses the evolution of related processes (namely, ovulation).  And the concealed ovulation article might also have information you're intersted in.  But why do human women ovulate one egg at a time, at approximate monthly intervals? I haven't seen that topic addressed on Wikipedia.  I would be interested if you found sources and were able to put something together.Lyrl 19:01, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evolution of the process? 

message: My understanding was a little different than that provided in the edit comments.  The MOST fertile time is from three days before ovulation, to the day of ovulation (so only four days - though if one is avoiding pregnancy, the risky window is more like 8-10 days).  But if a woman doesn't know when she ovulates, or how long her luteal phase is, things become much more fuzzy.  10-16 day luteal phase is considered normal.  If a woman has a 10 day luteal phase, she is still in her 'most fertile' time 10 days before her period (the day of ovulation).  If a woman has a 16 day luteal phase, she begins her 'most fertile' time 19 days before her period (16 day luteal phase + 3 day average sperm life = 19).Lyrl 02:35, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fertile window 

message: In the section titled "Etymology and the lunar month" the following statement appears: 
"Many women, when not being exposed to artificial nighttime lighting, find that their menstrual cycles occur in rhythm with the lunar cycle."
That the amount or quality of light reflected from the surface of the moon can influence menstruation is an extraordinary claim.  I don't believe it should be allowed to stand unsupported.  Is there any legitimate research available in support of this claim?  If not, I believe the statement should be struck.
Thanks.
:See the discussion on #Nightlighting Lyrl 23:10, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moon and Menstruation 

message: Even though it is untasteful, but can there be pictures of menstrul blood, or a bloody vagina, or maybe a comparison with real blood in beakers? or bloody feminine hygine products? We males dont have vaginas to experiance and know what menstration is and looks like. It can be glowing and pulsating red light as far as this article explains. Doesnt wikipedia have a be bold policy? Normal reproductive textbooks (HS level and below) dont ever show photos of the blood. I think wikipedia should be bold and put some up.Patcat88 16:56, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt would add to article and I suspect many would find "distastful" - whilst menstruation is normal, is there any need to seek images of blood ?  Vomiting & urination manage to cover their topics without resorting to graphic images. David Ruben  Talk  00:37, 2 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't know; there might be a case for showing what it normally looks like. After all, we are told there's very little actual blood in there, so you might expect it to be paler than it is. And that it isn't blue, like in the adverts. Skittle 19:34, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm - that probably highlights the need for an article on "social sensibilities" and what is considered "good/acceptable taste in advertising" - do we have such an article in wikipedia ?   Also blue substitutes for yellow as well as red - as typified by similar demonstrations of absorbency for nappies in the UK (?dippers in US) :-)  David Ruben  Talk  23:36, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe they call them diapers. The article might be necessary, but sounds like original research would be heavily involved. I suppose you could gather pictures of advertising campaigns and post them in your theoretical article, but I don't know that they'd be free. Maybe just giving the hexadecimal number corresponding to the appropriate colour would satisfy reader's curiosity? :-) Skittle 23:53, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  more pictures needed 

message: I have found an error I would like someone to check out if possible. The information doesn't seem the correlate, and if it does, please inform. Please read the following: 
'The fertile window' is the topic of the section.
'Sperm survive inside a woman for --->669,999<--- days on average, with survival time up to five days considered normal.' Is the figure 669,999 correct? Thank you. 72.244.150.131 15:28, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Question regarding facts in "The Fertile Window" 

message: This is a pet peeve of mine, but I made a minor change of wording in the "sea sponges" section of the "Menstrual Products" subheading.  I would just like you all to know from a certified science nerd that sponges are not "plant-like" in any way, nor should they be labeled as such. I changed the wording from "from plant-like animals" to "from the harvested skeletons of animals" because frankly, if people don't know how unsentient sponges are, then we have bigger socioeconomic problems than menstrual products. 
Yes, I know the wording sounds harsher, but it's science and it's fact. And most women who would even consider the sponge would get past the fact that it's an animal and look to the environmental and economic benefits. -- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lady Voldything (talk • contribs) 
:I think changing the link to Sponge would be enough.  Why was it previously linked to Contraceptive sponge?  Isn't that a completely different product?  
:'Plant-like animals' isn't right, of course, but 'harvested skeletons of animals' suggests vague disapproval, and it could give a reader unfamiliar with biology the impression that the practice is considered cruel. 'Natural sponge' is, I hope, descriptive enough that anyone who doesn't know what a sponge is at least won't be misled (as they would with the 'plant-like' wording) but won't be put off or confused, either.  And hopefully, they'll then click on the helpful wikilink and be enlightened. -- Vary | Talk 04:13, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The tweak you made is great. I do vaguely disapprove of it, and basically put down the first thing that came to mind. I didn't even notice the incorrect link, either- thanks! --Lady Voldything 20:48, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sea sponges "plant-like"? 

message: Do the areola, lips, etc. change sizes periodically according to the menstrual cycle?
:No, they don't.  The thyroid changes size during the menstrual cycle, though. Lyrl 22:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  size of organs 

message: I see this has been suggested before (#Menstruation as a new Article). Noticing that all the other phases (follicular, ovulation, luteal) now have their own article, I think it's a good time to spin off "menstruation" into its own article.  I'm thinking about taking some information from the "Overview", "menstruation", "physical expeItalic textrience", "menstrual products", and "culture and menstruation" for the spin-off article.  Any comments? Lyrl    Talk     Contribs   17:06, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Menstruation as spin-off article 

message: "The corpus luteum is the solid body formed in the ovaries after the egg has been released from the fallopian tube which continues to grow and divide for a while."  Sorry to be a grammarian, but exactly what is it that continues to grow and divide for a while?  The corpus luteum or the egg?  (I presume it isn't the fallopian tube.) -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 02:26, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Luteal phase 

message: I think the figure in this article is incorrect on a few points:
* the numbers of the days should be moved between two dots (a day is a period, not a event);
* rise of temperature is after, not during the ovulation;
* LH increases before, not during ovulation (LH rise triggers the ovulation 36 hours before); 
* no FSH rise in the early follicular phase is depicted;
* ovulation  is a event, no process of 2 days;
* menstruation period is normally about 4-5 days, not 7 days;
Desiderius 8:44, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I've addressed all the concerns raised above.  I've also made the temperature wander a little to better reflect actual temperature charts.  My current file is visible here.  Comments welcome.  I'll wait a few days for comments so I can make any other requested changes, and then upload it to Wikipedia under the name MenstrualCycle2.png Lyrl    Talk     C   23:36, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Lyrl, looks good to me! Horia 14:21, 27 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Required references are located (or should be) in the text of this article and its sub-articles.  The average length of menstruation is referenced in this article.  The timing of the LH, FSH, and estrogen surges (and that BBT is often lower during the estrogen surge than before it) are referenced in follicular phase.  If you have a concern about something specific, you can add a  tag to the appropriate text, or express it here.  But in general, the main concern with images is copyright, not original research or verifiability.  It's OK that :Image:NuvaRing compressed.jpg was taken by a user, so there's no verification it's actually a NuvaRing or if it's just a piece of plastic.  The important thing about images is that they aid in understanding of the (reliably referenced) text, not that they themselves have references. LyrlTalk     C   20:54, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect figure 

message: Sorry, but what are the rules for creating an image for an article?  I suspect that images, like article text, must follow the No original research rule.  As such I would suggest that all of the data that are plotted need to come from reliable, verifiable, secondary sources as defined by official policy.  So, number one I think the image needs references (what data support these claims?), and number two, with no offense meant, I don't think that it's okay for a user to change the image based on their own experience of actual temperature charts--that would qualify as original research.  Please, anyone, let me know if I'm not correct, or what the policies are.  All good-faith feedback is welcome.
Ehb (talk) 16:42, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Required references are located (or should be) in the text of this article and its sub-articles.  The average length of menstruation is referenced in this article.  The timing of the LH, FSH, and estrogen surges (and that BBT is often lower during the estrogen surge than before it) are referenced in follicular phase.  If you have a concern about something specific, you can add a  tag to the appropriate text, or express it here.  But in general, the main concern with images is copyright, not original research or verifiability.  It's OK that :Image:NuvaRing compressed.jpg was taken by a user, so there's no verification it's actually a NuvaRing or if it's just a piece of plastic.  The important thing about images is that they aid in understanding of the (reliably referenced) text, not that they themselves have references. LyrlTalk     C   20:54, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Original research rules--do they apply to this and other pictures?

message: This article has been removed from :Category:Fertility awareness as part of a planned deletion of :Category:Periodic abstinence, :Category:Fertility awareness, and :Category:Natural family planning - articles from those categories will be merged into the new :Category:Fertility tracking.  :Category:Fertility tracking is currently a subcategory of :Category:Menstruation.  Please bring up any concerns related to this merger at Category talk:Fertility tracking.  If there are no objections within four days, the three categories proposed for deletion will be tagged for speedy deletion. Lyrl    Talk     C   22:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category removal 

message: The introduction says "occurs in the females of human beings and other great apes".  The section "Menstrual cycles in other mammals" states that estrus cycles should not be confused with menstrual cycles, then appears to give the duration of estrus for chimpanzees and orangutans.  This is either ambiguous (do apes have menstrual or estrus cycles?) or flat out wrong.
75.198.89.65 04:14, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They appear to have both - some information available here.  Menstrual cycle meaning they menstruate, estrus cycle meaning they have a pronounced higher interest in sex when they are most fertile (which humans may also have, see here).  I'm not clear enough on the specifics to attempt to improve the Wikipedia articles involved, although I agree they are weak in this area. LyrlTalk     C   13:08, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apes? 

message: The article states: It is unusual for a woman to experience cycle length variations of less than four days. 
I would say, it is rather very usual.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kasiata (talk • contribs) 08:46, 3 September 2007
:That is what the reference says.  If you are aware of a different reference that says otherwise, please add it to the article or point it out on this page so we can add that information to the article. LyrlTalk     C   12:56, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cycle lenght 

message: The article reads that the Fallopian tubes need to capture the ovum...however it is the fimbrae that catch the ovum, which then travels through the Fallopian tubes.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chem Lady (talk • contribs) 04:15, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ovulation 

message: This sentence "Sperm survive inside a woman for 3 days on average, with survival time up to five days considered normal" seems a bit off. It states the average as 3 days, while survival up to 5 days considered normal. would normal not usually mean average? should it not state that 5 days is the maximum it can survive?
:I think eight days is considered the maximum, but the odds of that are about like winning the lottery.  "Normal" is a range, with anywhere from one day to five days considered normal. LyrlTalk     C   02:12, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sperm survival length 

message: The image at the top of the article was replaced with a revised version yesterday.  I had both some concerns and some positives comments on the changes:
*The figure reintroduces a number of inaccuracies addressed previously: #Incorrect figure (specifically lines 2,3,4, and 6 in the bulleted list plus the issue with primordial follicles in the following paragraph)
*Showing ovulation as a fuzzy line more clearly conveys that it is an event and not a phase, this is a nice improvement.
*The text is much easier to read, both the labels of the phases and especially with the color coding of the different hormones.
The improvements to the figure are greatly appreciated, but it concerns me they were apparently done to the old image file with the several inaccuracies addressed above rather than to the corrected version. LyrlTalk     C   19:45, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Figure change 

message: I have a question,
when you first get your period, does it come every month, because ive had my period twice already, and i first got it in january. I'm not getting it every month. If you have the answer to my question, please respond.76.28.39.43 (talk) 03:40, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Average cycle length is 28 days, most cycles fall in the 26-32 day range which is close to the length of a month.  Shorter and longer cycles can also be normal, especially during adolescence, breastfeeding, and perimenopause. LyrlTalk     C   22:19, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Starting mensturation 

message: I know that sound unusual but I was looking for mensuration cycle/mensuration/MC etc for their cultural beliefs and significance. Can we have a MC in popular culture like heading :):) 59.95.104.87 (talk) 18:21, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's more prominently linked in the menstruation article.  The article is not well developed, but here you go: Culture and menstruation. LyrlTalk     C   22:19, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need Cultural Reference for this article 

message: Is it possible to have your period when you're pregnant? Like you could miss your first one, but have your second one? I thought I could find the answer here but I couldn't find anything. --86.156.114.22 (talk) 20:05, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Women often bleeding during pregnancy, and it may be similar in flow and length to menstruation.  It is not menstruation, though.  You might see First trimester bleeding or Vaginal bleeding#Pregnant women, although unfortunately neither of those articles is of particular quality right now. LyrlTalk     C   22:13, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. --86.156.114.22 (talk) 03:40, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it possible.. 

message: The discussion of estrogen surges, FSH, LH, etc. in the "hormonal control" section seems, to me, to be redundant with the "follicular phase" and "luteal phase" sections.  I think the "control" section was there first, and as the article developed the material was added to the "phase" section, which I think is a more natural place for it.
I would like to remove most of the "control" section, leaving just "effects on other systems" (or some other title) as its own section (which will need some expansion).  Any thoughts on this plan? LyrlTalk     C   17:32, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hormonal control section - redundant? 

message: Still requesting change in blister pack image. It seems to have been deleted. I hope this is due to an accidental or outside force uncontrolled by you. If you deleted by concern, you are sensoring and I would be very dissapointed, as should your readers. Please get back to me on removing the blister pack image for the reasons I stated earlier.
71.194.35.184 (talk) 08:45, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems to have been deleted by you.  If you have concerns, please explain them here before further editing the article.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 20:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleting Talk? 

message: This is only for white europeans. Other ethnicities have different cycle lengths. I believe this statement is POV.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.181.97.102 (talk) 12:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Few white Europeans have cycle lengths of 28 days; that's just an average, meaning about half go longer and about half are shorter.  It would certainly be interesting and relevant to the article if other ethnicities had a different average length.  Do you have a source for that claim that could be used as a reference? LyrlTalk     C   22:11, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That demonstrates a very poor understanding of averages!Andrewjlockley (talk) 10:40, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cycle length is not 28 days 

message: Could someone start something about pseudomenses? I wont have enough time for the next few months. Thanks! --Enigma (talk) 01:50, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pseudomenses 

message: The phases section of this article is problematic. It seems to conflate two sets of phases (menstruation, proliferative, and secretory) with (follicular and luteal). In particular, the timetable in the phases section is misleading as it implies none of the phases overlap with other phases even though they are from two different sets of phases. Would anyone object if I clean up this section? Kaldari (talk) 22:10, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tried to improve the wording concerning the phases in both the lead and the phases section. Let me know if it needs further changes. Kaldari (talk) 17:08, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problems with Phases section 

message: The four hormones are Estrogen, Progesterone, FSH and LH. What's FH in the diagram? It's not mentioned anywhere in the article. I think it's supposed to be LH (luteinizing hormone). 74.178.214.170 (talk) 15:41, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've put in a request for it to be fixed. Good find. Kaldari (talk) 18:22, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed it. You may need to refresh the page to see the new version. Kaldari (talk) 00:58, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  FH? 

message: Hi all, I'm a long time reader of wikipedia. I came to this article through the barbie article. What I particularly wanted to find that article is the required amount of body fat to menstrate. Its around 17-22%. So I came to this article to find out more about that.....but to no avail.
So, do you think it'd be possible to mention the required body to fat menstrate? A little more info or something? 75.72.219.104 (talk) 00:12, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Body fat 

message: i have been menstruating for more than 16 days, and for the past 10 days my menstruation was light, smelly and sometimes brownish, is it normal?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.241.130.118 (talk) 10:17, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  menstruation circle 

message: Is there a time in the period cycle where a females sex drive is at its peak?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlgjslover (talk • contribs) 05:30, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sex Drive 

message: Some mention should be made as to how Toxic Shock Syndrome is related to tampon use (especially linked to non-absorbent tampons). (Sugarless (talk) 17:12, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toxic Shock Syndrome 

message: m 21 years old.m getting bleeding during perods only for couple a days.n also from last 2 months my date of periods r getting late by 2 days?
watz problem?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.133.59.116 (talk) 07:27, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  late in getting periods 

message: what are the symptoms before getting menstrual cyle in the age of 25 . Means i have got irregular periods so i wanted to know the symptons because i sometimes suffer from hormonal changes  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.192.213.225 (talk) 16:33, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  symptoms before menestrual cycle 

message: I moved the following text, and its references to here:
repeated studies have consistently shown the mean and median of sample menstrual cycle data to be around 29.5 days.Gunn, D. L., Jenkin, P. M. and Gunn A. L. (1937) Menstrual periodicity: Statistical observations on a large sample of normal cases. J. Obstet. Gynecol. Br. Emp. 44: 839.Treloar, A. E., R. E. Boynton, B. G. Behn and B. W. Brown (1967) Variation of the human menstrual cycle through reproductive life. International Journal of Fertility 12: 77-126.Cutler, W. B., C. R. Garcia and A. M. Krieger (1979) Sexual behavior frequency and menstrual cycle length in mature premenopausal women. Psychoneuroendocrinology 4: 297-309. doi: 10.1016/0306-4530(79)90014-3 (giving a mean of 29.5 days)
The references are:
The thing is, I found none of these articles to be able to tell anything more than Chiazze 1968 . The 1937 study seems too old, and the sample size in Cutler 1979 is only one tenth of that in Chiazze. I couldn't get access to Treloar 1967, however, so it would be appreciated if anyone with access had a look at it just in case. Mikael Häggström (talk) 08:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Studies needing justification before reinsertion 

message: I seem to vaguely remember some books saying that testosterone levels will vary throughout the menstrual cycle along with estrogen levels (off hand, memory tells me they follow the same path - although not the same levels).
I could not find a reliable source for this, but if anyone finds this it would be useful to mention. If the levels fluctuate enough it might be worth including on some of the graphs shown as well.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.159.238.97 (talk) 03:19, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  testosterone levels? 

message: steps should be taken while menstrual flow ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.97.162.99 (talk) 17:12, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  menstrual flow 

message: I was doing some studying about the 'menstrual cycle' and found this in Guyton's Textbook of Medical Physiology (chapter 81):
"The normal reproductive years of the female are characterized by monthly rhythmical changes in the rates of secretion of the female hormones and corresponding physical changes in the ovaries and other sexual organs. This rhythmical pattern is called the female monthly sexual cycle (or, less accurately, the menstrual cycle)."
So I'd like to request a name change for this page to sexual cycle, since that would be scientifically correct. Zaheer12a (talk) 21:51, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see how "menstrual cycle" is less scientifically correct. And in any case, the title you propose is not the WP:COMMONNAME; nor does it pass Wikipedia:MEDMOS#Naming conventions. 37.59.65.55 (talk) 18:31, 9 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title of this page 

message: At the bottom of the Menstrual_cycle#Length section there are statements supporting a Lunar effect on menstrual cycles:
A 1979 study of 305 women found that approximately one-third of the subjects had lunar period cycles in length, i.e., a mean cycle length of 29.5 days plus or minus 1 day. Almost two-thirds of the subjects started their cycle in the brighter half of the lunar cycle, significantly more than would be expected by random distribution. Another study found a statistically significant number of menstruations occurred around the new moon.
However, in the "Nightlighting and the moon" section it says:
A meta-analysis of studies from 1996 showed no correlation between the human menstrual cycle and the lunar cycle.As cited by Adams, Cecil, "What's the link between the moon and menstruation?" (accessed 6 June 2006):. Reprinted in The Hundredth Monkey - and other paradigms of the paranormal, edited by Kendrick Frazier, Prometheus Books. Revised and updated in The Outer Edge: Classic Investigations of the Paranormal, edited by Joe Nickell, Barry Karr, and Tom Genoni, 1996, CSICOP. Dogon villagers did not have electric lighting and spent most nights outdoors, talking and sleeping; so they were an ideal population for detecting a lunar influence; none, however, was found.
I think the latter has more evidence, since it is a meta-analysis that was done more recently, and therefore I suggest that the text in the former box should be removed from the article. Mikael Häggström (talk) 16:50, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your quick response!  A couple of moons ago I did look into this quite deeply but have since forgotten anything that I learned.  I do remember that any information is quite questionable.  Please give me some time to again become familiar with your new suggestions. For now, Gandydancer (talk) 17:11, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradictory statements on lunar effect