Talk:Buddhism and Hinduism

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message: There are a lot of issues with this article. The first step I have taken is to reorganize the structure a bit, with a simple section listing similarities and another listing differences and one more listing their historical interactions. This seems to be how some other articles comparing two different religions together are structured. 
Besides that, I also went ahead and removed a bunch of very large Buddhist sutra quotations that were choking the article. Not sure why many of these were added, but they just do not explain or help in the comparison between these two religions. One example was a quote from a sutra that just listed like 40 or something names of Vedic rishis. Not sure why this was deemed as necessary for this article. Another huge passage from the Samaññaphala Sutta I just outright deleted and outlined the main points made in that sutta passage. There was really no need to quote such a large passage to make the basic point that the Buddha disagreed with many Brahamanical practices like fortune telling etc. In the meditation section, there were also many passages being quoted explaning Buddhist dhyana, but not much was being done explaning Hindu dhyana or comparing these with Hinduism. It just seemed like a parade of sutta quotations again. I removed most of these and outlined the main points in prose.
A lot of work remains to be done cleaning up many of these sections and adding more citations (will see how much more I can tackle in the coming days). There is a lot of awkward prose and passages that don't seem to be doing much helpful explaining - just throwing out all sorts of facts and quotes. But at least now this page is organized a bit more rationally and also does not have all these excessive Buddhist sutta quotations. 
I also added a few more sections outlining some very basic ideas, such cosmology, deities that both religions share in common and so on.  Javier F.V. 00:48, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Large Buddhist sutra quotes

message: according to your latest edit diff, Buddhism did not arise around 500 BCE, but between 600 and 200 BCE. "Modern Hinduism" is also a misrepresentation; Hinduism as such arose after 500 BCE; there was no "Hinduism" before that time. WP:COMPETENCE is required; one more of such a mistake, and I'll ask for admin-intervention. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 13:53, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I don't think  is being helpful. He should agree with the proposal I made above and end this. Capitals00 (talk) 14:27, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buddhism 

message: I have removed the following paragraph from the Cosmology and deities section of the article:
The linked source is dead but perhaps is a reference to this part of Jataka tales translated by W. H. D. Rouse, which possibly supports the last sentence () but not the rest. Also the paragraph is written so poorly that both its meaning and relevance to the section is hard to decipher.
While the sourcing and comprehensibility problems may be solved through a rewrite, my main reason for removal is that wikipedia editors shouldn't be mining the immense corpus of Hindu and/or Buddhist literature, spanning over two-millennia, to come up with instances where the deity of primary importance in one religion are mentioned in the literature of the other. That is the work of scholarship, which should guide us as to what aspects of commonality and difference are due, and perhaps more importantly, the history, significance and reasons for such overlap and differences.
The rest of the Cosmology and deities section and large parts of the article could use a review and rewrite. Abecedare (talk) 01:35, 16 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explain removal and general comment