Talk:Kurdistan/Archive 1

message: The time has come for a radical expansion of this page and its various links.  The centrality of this region in the U.S. plan to invade Iraq and what might interfere with it, in particular a post-invasion potential to exacerbate the Iraq crisis seriously with Turkish vs. Kurdish conflicts, makes it pretty important right now.
Among other things it might make implementation of a post-Saddam democracy more or less impossible, at least in the North, given the concerns of the Turks and their influence in NATO.  It's also well known that Turks consider Mosul to be "theirs", and that Iran has interests in the region as well.  This is potentially a vast mess.
:: Not quite. All Turkey, and other nations in the region want is that Kurds not to be in charge of Iraqi oil. If you think about it after their dealings with the PKK and miscelinious others you cant really blame their reservations. The main reason its so difficult the kurds can achieve anything is because of organisations like PKK. I cannot speak in Kurds in general but I serriosuly dont see why this is an issue for the Kurds within Turkey. In any country if you scream I am "this race" I am "different/better/greater/smarter" from you, I want my "own nation", last thing you should expect is a positive response. While it may sound matcho to scream out insults and ridiclous claims to surrounding nations, it hurts your rate of success. things would have been diferent if Northern iraqi leaders had any idea how diplomacy works. In diplomacy you dont show someone elses teeth as soon as the americans leave I am sure Iraq will be screaming less insults to none. --Coolcat 17:20, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Miscellaneous

message: Didn't early Saddam establish some kind of autonomy for Kurds?
:Not that I ever read of. In 1991 there was a semi-autonomous region enforced by no-fly zones as the article states. - Dejitarob 02:54, 25 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: He did. According to the Dutch Bosatlas, the was an official Kurdish autonomous are since 1970. It meant nothing, however. Gerritholl aka Topjaklont | Talk 20:27, 13 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Early autonomy in Iraq

message: The map in the Kurdish Wikipedia is claiming much more for a possible Kurdistan, as can be seen at . It goes south as far as the oil rich Khuzestan province of Iran, and includes Masjed Soleyman, the first city of Iran where petroleum was discovered, which is clearly populated by Arabs, not Kurds. Would someone experienced in the matter, or the Kurdish language, please explain? Roozbeh 23:15, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  The map in the Kurdish Wikipedia 

message: There are many differences between this article and its Kurdish version. It really seems to me that these are not the same thing. The Kurdish version  looks much more like a plan of a future country instead of an encyclopedic article about the region. Unfortunately I don't know Kurdish, but I can read the name of cities like Khorramabad (Xorramabad in the article) which is clearly a Lur (See Lur, Lorestan, and Demographics of Iran) area. Would someone who knows Kurdish please explain or make sure the Kurdish version is encyclopedic? Roozbeh 23:25, 21 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Abdullah Öcalan is still being imprisoned lifelong in Turkey since 1999 for his terrorist activities, murdering thousands of Turkish villagers and war crimes against Turkish Republic.
Can somebody fact-check this affirmation ? I can't find any supporting information on the article of Abdullah Öcalan. Bogdan | Talk 17:26, 21 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differences with the Kurdish version