Talk:Harmonic major scale

message: Flats and sharps
Use either Unicode flat (♭, ♭) and sharp (♯, ♯) symbols or the words flat and sharp. Do not use b for flat or # (the number sign) for sharp.
Like it or hate it, it's apparently policy. Gene Ward Smith 03:05, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (music)]] on flats and sharps

message: ===Mode of the inversion of the harmonic minor scale===
What is dubious about this claim? Hyacinth (talk) 23:59, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If the note which compose the C harmonic major scale and the A harmonic minor scale here are enharmonic G# => Ab i don't think they are enharmonic scale, as we play the G in C harmonic major and avoid the A while in A harmonic minor we avoid the G and play the A...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.198.22.239 (talk) 17:52, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Dubious

message: What is dubious about this claim? Hyacinth (talk) 23:59, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If the note which compose the C harmonic major scale and the A harmonic minor scale here are enharmonic G# => Ab i don't think they are enharmonic scale, as we play the G in C harmonic major and avoid the A while in A harmonic minor we avoid the G and play the A...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.198.22.239 (talk) 17:52, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Mode of the inversion of the harmonic minor scale

message: While the term "enharmonic mode" already has meaning, what is dubious about the claim that A harmonic minor's accidental and C harmonic major's accidental are the same note? Hyacinth (talk) 23:59, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Enharmonic mode"

message: Why, what, where, and how does this article need additional citations for verification? Hyacinth (talk) 09:59, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional citations

message: 1. Fixed an error, which asserted that the "whole tone plus one" scale (C-D-E-F#-G#-A#-B) had a circle of thirds.  It does not, even though it is seven-note Rothenberg proper.
2. Added the fact that Rimsky Korsakov named the scale.
3. Added the fact that the scale has the "diatonic thirds" property, which is more directly relevant to the "stack of thirds" ordering than is the property of propriety.
4. Added the link to Hungarian minor, which is a mode of this scale.
5. Tried to get clearer about the ambiguity between "scale" and "mode" -- which is an issue in all of these articles.  Among contemporary theorists, a "scale" is a collection of notes, ordered in a stepwise sequence; a mode has a note chosen as a tonic.  When discussing the relation between harmonic major and minor, mode is not so important: every mode of the harmonic major is an inversion of some mode of the harmonic minor.  So I changed this to say that the scales (a collection of notes) are related by inversion, rather than particular modes.
6. This last is an issue that could still use clarification.  This article seems to refer both to the scale (the collection of notes, ordered stepwise) and to a particular mode of the scale, without clarifying the distinction.  (For instance, it says that the Harmonic major scale has its own collection of modes; but it also seems to imply that the article is about a particular mode of HM).  We have another article (Hungarian minor) which refers to a different mode of the same scale.  This could all be clearer.
7. I think the citations tag can be removed.  Princeton Music (talk) 15:51, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor changes 

message: The article says "There are only seven such scales in equal temperament, including whole tone, hexatonic, diatonic, acoustic, harmonic minor, harmonic major, and octatonic" It would be nice if someone could either (a) create the missing article for this property and move this information there, or (b) provide standard names and/or spellings for these scales ("hexatonic", "octatonic" are too generic; "acoustic" is not a standard scale-name AFAIK), and (c) link to a source where this analysis is carried out.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.194.48.42 (talk) 11:23, 11 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: From the description, it has to be the scale of alternating minor thirds and semitones. Double sharp (talk) 15:16, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diatonic Thirds Property 

message: At the beginning of the article the chords are explained/spelled,
but the Third chord is missing.. why?
It should be a iii, or iii chord
or a minor chord built on the third degree of the scale, whith the notes b2/b9 b4/b11 b6/b13 and b7 as possible decorations.
-Then more importantly..
"For example, the added accidental in C harmonic major, A♭ (shown in first image), is enharmonically equivalent to the added accidental, G♯, in the relative harmonic minor of C major, A harmonic minor. (i.e., A harmonic minor is an "enharmonic mode" of C harmonic major. "
I'm sorry to say, but this paragraph doesn't make sense..
C Harmonic Major has the notes C D E F G Ab B,
whereas A Harmonic Minor has A B C D E Ab..
IOW, C Harm. Maj. has no A note in it,
whereas A Harm. Min. has no G note in it..
Therefore they are not and cannot be enharmonic, because they don't contain the same notes.
Ofc the notion that the actual accidental/note alteration that makes C Major become Harmonic Major,
and its relative minor A Eolian become Harmonic Minor is the same, is an entertaining idea..
But it's an untrue statement (notes are different so it's not enharmonic), and unnecessarily convoluted/relative way of seeing it, 
which doesn't help ppl understand or know more the topic at hand -> Harmonic Major.
-Also this part is a bit odd:
"There are only seven such scales in equal temperament, including whole tone, hexatonic, diatonic, acoustic, harmonic minor, harmonic major, and octatonic."
First nobody calls Lydian Dominant "the acoustic scale";
Lydian Dominant or Overtone scale are much more common denominations.
Secondly the root scale from which Lydian Dom mode is derived is actually Melodic Minor,
and that's the one that should be referenced, because obviously it also shares this property.
I would rewrite this part like this:
There's seven such scales in Equal Temperament, including Major scale, Melodic Minor, Harmonic Minor, Harmonic Major,  
Whole Tone/hexatonic, and the two Diminished/octatonic scales.
This would be a more clear and universal way of writing it.. Quintessence7 (talk) 21:35, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Burzuchius (talk) 21:24, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Basic addition and Correction