Talk:Via Giulia

message: No source is given to specify that the Arco Farnese was the design of Michelangelo. Architectural consensus leans toward a less realized scheme along the axis of the Via dei Baulari and the Palazzo Farnese itself. Please Advise  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:10A:304C:C150:9D4B:C2D:5495:2E67 (talk) 21:46, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  L'Arco Farnese 

message: There's going to be a lot by virtue of the article's length, so bear with me:
* The name itself. As a proper noun I have removed the definite article before it.
*  I am assuming that you are going by eclipse's fourth definition to mean obscurity or decline. May I suggest using "decline" instead?
:Correct!
::. Changed.
*  "Addresses" tend to be used for buildings. Perhaps "location"?
:Correct!
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*  Partially edited already. When did processions stop?
:I don't think that it is important to mention an end date here, since we are talking about the age of Julius II. Anyway, the processions in Rome continued well into the 19th century.
::. Changed the wording to say it happened in the Middle Ages.
*  Partially edited already. I'm assuming this was an unintentional consequence; would I be correct?
:No, on the contrary: the popes started a plan to link the different quarters of the city.
::. Changed to reflect intention.
*  Bold emphasis added. What was the year 40 years before?
:I would write "about 40 years before". We are referring to the age of Julius uncle, Pope Sixtus IV, which pursued too a program of urban renewal in Rome.
::. Context should be clear enough.
*  I don't think this term is used correctly; maybe "focus"?
:Focus is good!
::. Changed to focus.
*  Parenthetical thought excised, which is mentioned right below. Can "regular quadrangular division" be called a square decision? What is the exact shape of this division, if possible?
:I would say that here the right word is "Quadrilateral".
::. Changed to "quadrilateral".
*  Excised parenthetical thought. Is it super important? I'll try and incorporate it into the paragraph.
:Yes, since this explains the real plan of the pope, which was really ambitious.
::. Turned it into its own separate sentence.
*  Who needed to become independent? The nobility from the papacy or the papacy from the nobility?
:The pope wanted to become independent, the baronal families in Rome were powerful and in the Middle Ages built a State into the state.
::. Clarified.
*  Emphasis added. The link currently leads to the general disease, and that is fine. However, is there a link to the plague in Italy?
:Unfortunately not (yet) ;-) 
::. Left as is.
*  Emphasis added. Again, seems like something lost in translation.
:There were three goals: communication between several part of the city, representative (celebrating the power of the church) and administrative center.
::. Clarified it to "Church representation".
*  The last digit is missing in the year.
:1513
::. Amended.
*  This comes up multiple times in the article. Do you mean the front of the building? I'm assuming this corresponds to facciata or davanti.
:Correct, it is the front.
::. Added a wikilink to the first mention for context.
*  Three things. First, I think we are talking about the event Carnival and not typical traveling carnivals. Second, who handed down the horse race organisation to whom? Third, What do you mean by "naked hunchbacks"?
:Yes, this is the famous "carnevale romano"; The source does not say who did it; maybe naked hunchbacked men?
::. Can't do anything more without information.
*  Was it set off or did the machine get burned and not work?
:set off.
::. Changed to clarify.
*  Why did these priests and clerics have to pray for dead priests? Why did these dead priests die?
:They had to pray to send the soul in heaven. The priest died normally (illness, because they were old, etc.). It was (and sometime is) a normal custom in Italy to pray for the souls of the deceased.
::. Clarified.
*  As above.
:front
::. Clarified.
*  Were there no more festivities?
:Correct. The road fully decayed.
::. Worded it differently.
*  As above. What was their purpose?
: Their purpose was  to show the panorama of the river. The walls are much higher than the gardens.
::. Clarified.
*  Original header, has been edited. I think it was rendered along the lines of "Passeggiata attraverso la Via Giulia" on the Italian Wikipedia. Since it only mentions landmarks, I have renamed it to "Landmarks on Via Giulia".
:This is good. I used also this expression in other articles.
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*  What significance is there in its design being planned on the street that it stands on?
:To give water to the people, since at that time the only source of water was the river, but was unhealthy.
::. Clarified.
*  Emphasis added. Is this the same church as Santa Caterina da Siena?
:Yes
::. Changed to its Italian name.
*  Who was the church donated to?
:Maybe "donated" is not the right word. Brandi was the sponsor of the church, the one who put the money for the construction. The church was then given to the Compagnia delle santissime piaghe.
::. Clarified.
*  Are we talking about the San Michele a Ripa?
:No, it is another institution. At that time there was a plenty of such places in Rome.
::. Left unnamed.
*  Slightly already edited by me. What do you mean by it "remain[ing] profane"?
:Still used, but not anymore as church (in opposition to religious)
::. Phrased as being used for non-religious purposes.
*  Just so I understand, although it is referred to in the plural, Carceri Nuove is only one building?
:Yes, the "New prisons". I am looking forward to write an article about them ;-)
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*  Emphasis added; as above.
: front
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*  Reference removed. What does it mean to be freed from the census?
: Exempted from the payment of the census tax.
::. Clarified.
*  Is the inscription dedicated to Raphael's memory?
:Yes. It means: "Raf[faello] Sanzio owned [this house] in 1520"
::. Rephrased.
*  Emphasis added. This wasn't mentioned before; is this still referring to the Compagnia della Pietà?
:No, you are right, I should correct it. It is the comune of Florence.
::. Rephrased.
* . Edited by me, and not super important, but this is still the Tiber River we're talking about?
:Yes, this is always the same river, the Tiber.
::. Changed mention of river to its name.
*  I feel like this was lost in translation. What type of street is this? A major street?
:Strada di rappresentanza ;-) . Someting like Champs Elysees in Paris, or Unter den Linden in Berlin. A wide road with majestic Buildings, etc.
::. Would a boulevard or avenue describe it better?
:::Avenue, or grand avenue.
::::. Rechristened as "grand avenue".
*  My attempt at translating Fontanone di Ponte Sisto from my limited Italian. Is that correct?
:Your Italian is good: in these cases, I would live the name in Italian (since it is its name), and then the translation in English
::. I'm not sure what you mean by "live the name".
:::sorry, I meant "leave (let in place) the Italian name". In principle, I use the English denomination only if it is well established (like in "Spanish steps"). Otherwise, I leave the Italian name with the English translation in parentheses.
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*  As in the bride's family receives money from the groom's family?
:Yes, since these girls were poor, otherwise they could not get married.
::. Were they married off to the goldsmiths, and if so, are the goldsmiths from the church or were the goldsmiths married at the church?
::: :-) No, the goldsmiths gave them only the dowry, then they got married quite normally, as soon as a young man made a proposal of marriage: without dowry, was almost impossible to find a man. The link between goldsmiths and church is only that Sant'Eligio was the church of the goldsmiths in Rome, managed and funded by them. It is quite possible, but not a must, that a goldsmith got married in Sant'Eligio.
::::. Clarified and fixed.
*  I currently left "regulation" as is. Did the construction require demolishing the church to make room or was is it a consequence of diverting the Tiber's flow?
:It was a consequence of the erection of the giant walls around the river.
::. Again, was the church intentionally destroyed for the project or was it unintentionally destroyed after the giant walls around the river were built?
:::Yes, Sant'Anna dei Bresciani had to be demolished, since it lay near the Tiber. 
::::. Changed with clarification.
*  Did they pay for the fountain willingly or was it bad for them?
::Of couse willingly: they were at that time one of the richest family in Europe (look at their palace and you will understand how rich they were... :-))
:::. I had to ask because "at the expense of" is an idiomatic expression that is more commonly used to describe "to the detriment of someone" (definition 3), though your use (definition 1) is also valid.
*  Emphasis added. I found the wikilink to architectural consoles and I changed "portal" to "door" (from "la porta"?), but is there more information on "arcade orders"?
:A portal (architecture) is more than a door, is a large, high, adorned door.
::. Reverted to "portal", added wikilink to first mention to establish context. I am still not sure what you mean by arcade orders. I understand what arcades are now and have wikilinked it, but what is an "arcade order"?
:::An order is an Order of architecture, but in this context you can translate it as row. Three rows of arcades, one over the other.
::::. Saying they're stacked on one another should be enough.
*  In reference to the metal fleur-de-lis, what does "placed against the wall" mean?
:No, the fountain, which before was in a little piazza, was put against a rough wall, losing its charme.
::. Changed verb.
There are a lot of images rendered in-text as links titled (Fig.) I think the intention behind doing this was to keep the images in their relevant sections, but perhaps creating a gallery at the bottom of the page and linking back up to each section might be better? There are also others in the text that I have not tagged above. I have converted each landmark into its own section to make it easier if you choose to do so.
:No, I don't think that the gallery is a good idea, since as it is now the reader reads the info, clicks on "fig" and sees at once the building. With a gallery it has no way to see the image while reading the text. I mean, the flow direction should be text -> image and back to text. I found this system on the German Wikipedia (in my opinion by far the best wiki) and I think it is genial. 
::. I'll leave them as is.
:::Thanks!
:And now some info about the genesis of the article: I started with a German - English translation of the German article, which unfortunately was without references (they used basically only a web site in Italian, hardly a RS). So, as first I had to reference everything with solid sources (and correct in many places) . While doing this, I found that the history part was very weak, so basically I enhanced it a lot. The "landmarks" part remained more or less as it is in the German wiki. At the end of this, I translated the English version in Italian. So, it is the other way around, as most people imagine. Logic, isn't it? ;-) 
:English aside,  did you like the article? Thanks again! Alex2006 (talk) 07:40, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Answers done! I am glad that you enjoyed the article! Alex2006 (talk) 12:08, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Everything looks good to me! I've completed my third copyedit and will consider the request complete. Let me know if there's anything else you need. --Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝)  16:21, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , many thanks! I will read the article again and fix possible problems (not of language, of course, but of meaning): if I will have problem with the language I will ask your help. Then I will put the article into the GAN queue. After the end of the GA process for Via Giulia, I think that I will propose a couple of other articles (no fear, they are not so long ;-)), and if you like I can come back directly to you to copyedit them. Cheers and happy Easter! Alex2006 (talk) 16:28, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , best of luck! When you're ready for those other articles to be copyedited, either leave me a message or put it in WP:GOCE/REQ. --Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝)  16:31, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  GOCE copyedit request