Talk:Kwajalein Atoll

message: Regarding: "never been covered with any significant nuclear fallout"
At the very least, the German cruiser Prinz Eugen and the American battleship Pennsylvania have been sunk at or off the Atoll itself, and while not exactly nuclear fallout, they are in fact nuclear debris. William R Wade (talk) 16:26, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Validity of Content 

message: The map should be photoshopped to cover actual names of the islands--nixie 04:06, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map Issues 

message: Perhaps it should be mentioned that SpaceX uses the island as one of their launch sites. Falcon 1 will make its maiden flight in mid December --User:subzero788 16:17, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: done--Duk 20:14, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  SpaceX 

message: The article says the largest island in the atoll is Kwajalein but later it says it's Ebadon.  Which is it? Papercrab 20:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Largest Island 

message: Obviously there's some confusion here.  Ebadon and Ebeye are absolutely different islands.  Ebadon is in the far northwest corner of the atoll; Ebeye (properly spelled Epja in Marshallese) is located in the southeast tip, near Kwajalein islet.  Yes, Ebeye is often said to be the most populated land mass in the world.  Roi and Namur are adjoined islands, which makes Ebadon the second-largest after Kwajalein.  Betweener 06:46, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion of Islands 

message: A locator map is needed to show the position with respect to the continents of the Earth. -- Beland 18:38, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Kmusser 14:15, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map Request 

message: A recent deletion pointed out that someone had gone through at some point in time to ensure that Korean workers had their due. Sometimes a bit WP:UNDUE! I restored the deletion but had to admit that editing might need a more even hand.Student7 (talk) 12:01, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Korean workers

message: The islands were once connected by a railroad built by, I think, the Japanese. This doesn't seem to be reflected here. It was destroyed during the battle and the remnants either buried or removed. Student7 (talk) 18:35, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Railroad

message: Part of the battle description reads:
"Of the 8,782 Japanese personnel[17] deployed to the atoll (including Korean laborers), it has been argued that only 2,200 were combat trained. Nevertheless, Japanese resistance was strong and resilient, although the Japanese troops were outnumbered by tens of thousands of American troops."
For starters, there were 7,800 dead or so, indicating that a goodly number of the 8,782 actually fought. There is no indication how much training the division fighting them on the American side had. For some, it was their first time holding a rifle in battle! So not all of them were that greatly trained either.
I don't know about the "been argued" anyway. It isn't really explained or attributed.
Outnumbering your opponent by 3:1 or 4:1 is the classic manner of attack that will result in a victory. Anything much short of that will often result in defeat. So "being outnumbered by tens of thousands" would be reasonable.
Fighting "strong"ly is to be expected when you have no means of retreat, a gun in your hand and a leader who says he will shoot you if you don't fight! Also, a person is motivated by the fact that he might repulse the enemy. Each side hated the other.
Anyway, this summary seems quite pov to me. It was a heated battle, but it is reported in a somewhat pov fashion rather than npov, IMO. Student7 (talk) 00:14, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Battle description pov

message: This sentence: 
"This suggests that these Koreans died for the sake of Japan, in fact, they were forced laborers."
just isn't sitting right with me. I know that many Korean laborers in the Japanese military were conscripts. I know Korea has legitimate grievances against Japan for its treatment during the colonial era. But this seems a little too much like an editorializing snark. --Yaush (talk) 17:57, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. rm final sentence. Possibly the current last sentence needs tweaking as well. Thanks. Student7 (talk) 22:36, 16 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've edited that paragraph to reflect that the Koreans were "forced laborers", not merely "laborers" (which implies they were paid for their labor and free to leave, which they were most definitely not). Many sources actually use the term "slave laborers", since they were effectively imprisoned, brutalized and made to do hard labor by the army which had conquered and occupied their country. The line about the Japanese honoring them can stay, since it doesn't really make any POV statement one way or the other, but not clarifying the "forced" part is a bit like calling the Korean comfort women "sex workers" instead of "forced sex workers" or "sex slaves". Court Appointed Shrub (talk) 10:04, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Korean laborers 

message: I've removed the entire subsection "Trust Territory under the United Nations", as it was nothing but a full paragraph of uncited WP:POV pro-Japanese diatribe about "US misconceptions" about the history of the Marshall Islands, with some WP:SYNTH thrown in from a telephone company pamphlet and an unrelated, inaccessible grad school dissertation. I examined it to see if any of it was worth saving, and none of it was. It didn't even mention the article topic, for pete's sake. Court Appointed Shrub (talk) 09:37, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV and WP:SYNTH issues 

message: This Notice to Airman (NOTAM) was issued to all air operators by the FAA. Can you please add this to your information site as it poses a lot of concern.
NOTAM KZAK A3930/2023
ATTENTION ALL AIRCRAFT OPERATING IN THE VICINITY OF KWAJALEIN
ATOLL. FOR YOUR SAFETY OVERFLIGHT OF THE ISLAND NORTH OF THE RWY IS
PROHIBITED. THIS IS CONSIDERED A HAZARDOUS AREA WITH THE POTENTIAL
FOR LOSS OF LIFE. ALL ARRIVALS AND DEPARTURES MAKE SOUTH TRAFFIC
ONLY TO AVOID EXTREME RADIATION HAZARDS. CONTACT BASE OPERATIONS ON
126.2 WITHIN 50NM OF KWAJALEIN AAF.CONTACT BASE OPS PRIOR TO
DEPARTURE DUE TO DECONFLICT WITH RADIATION HAZARD.
F) SFC
G) UNL 161.30.203.8 (talk) 10:28, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This NOTAM is related to non-ionizing radiation (test run of the Space Fence radar set), instead of ionizing radiation (like renewal of atomic bomb tests). Still the radio emission power is up to 2.69MW and potentially dangerous to health in the same way placing a cat inside a microwave oven can be fatal. 188.143.6.28 (talk) 17:00, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prohibited area to fly due to possible loss of life