Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Animation/Thomas & Friends task force

message: Earlier this year, when the furore over fair-use images erupted, I added the bulk of the 'Thomas' screenshots to my watchlist. Since then, nothing much has happened...until now.
Someone has spotted that certain 'Thomas' images do not meet WP requirements, and have flagged them as such. Images flagged in this way may be deleted (automatically?) after seven days if no action is taken. WP is quite strict on this, and hence the 'Thomas & Friends' pages may lose all their screenshots if urgent action is not taken very soon.
The following images (at least) have been flagged as having no Fair Use Rationale:
*:File:AlfieExcavator.jpg
*:File:AnnieandClarabel.jpg
*:File:Bertie3.jpg
*:File:Bertramtheoldwarrior.jpg
*:File:Brakevan Toad.jpg
*:File:Breakdown Train.jpg
*:File:BryonTTTE.jpg
*:File:Bulgybus.jpg
*:File:Bulstrodebarge.jpg
*:File:BusterTTTE.jpg
*:File:Butchtowtruck.jpg
*:File:Calling All Engines.jpg
*:File:Carolinecar.jpg
*:File:CityoftruroTTTE.jpg
*:File:CrankyCrane.jpg
*:File:Diesel10.jpg
*:File:Emily's New Coaches.jpg
*:File:Georgesteamroller.jpg
*:File:HaroldHelicopter.jpg
*:File:HenriettaCoach.jpg
*:File:HorridLorries.jpg
*:File:IsabellaTTTE.jpg
*:File:JackFrontLoader.jpg
*:File:Jeremiah Jobling.JPG
*:File:Jeremy.jpg ("this is a possibly unfree image")
*:File:Jet Engine TTTE2.jpg
*:File:KellyTTTE.JPG
*:File:LadyTATMR.jpg
*:File:Miss Jenny.jpg
*:File:Mrs Kyndley.jpg
*:File:NedTTTE.jpg
*:File:NelsonTransporter.jpg
*:File:Oldslowcoach.jpg
*:File:OliverExcavator.jpg
*:File:PatrickTTTE.jpg
*:File:ProteusTTTE.jpg
*:File:Scruffey.jpg
*:File:Splatteranddodge.jpg
*:File:TerenceTractor.jpg
*:File:Thediesel261.jpg
*:File:ThumperDriller.jpg
*:File:TigerMothTTTEAF.jpg
*:File:TrevorTraction.jpg
*:File:TrevorTraction.jpg
*:File:TroublesomeTrucks.jpg
I must stress that this list only includes images that were used on the 'Thomas' pages on some specific day in June. Any which have been added since, or those I haven't seen -- and hence are not on my watchlist -- may also be targetted for deletion.
Project members familiar with (and, dare I say, 'passionate about') the TV Series need to address these issues, in accordance with the appropriate WP policies and guidelines, as a matter of some urgency. (I'm afraid that I cannot help with this task, although I can offer pointers towards official guidance if help is requested.)
Guidance for writing a Fair Use Rationale may be found at Talk:Non-rail vehicles (Thomas the Tank Engine and Friends)#Pictures. Hopefully this will be sufficient to comply with the WP policies, but it may be necessary to add additional information, specific to the character, to ensure that the FUR's are seen to be different and not just duplicated.
Good luck!
EdJogg 10:56, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images scheduled for deletion 

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::--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 10:27, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: updated --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:41, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed deletions (PROD and AFD) 

message: We have a problem, people. Now S11 is almost over, spammers will start to make up junk and rubbish stuff. All sorts of 'characters' like 'Cosmo the Sonic Engine' and fake info on The Great Discovery like 'The Mountain Engines make an appearance' or 'Thomas's driver's name is Fred Roberts' could appear. So keep your eyes peeled! S.C.Ruffeyfan 14:47, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Up and coming T&F releases 

message: In my sandbox, someone said Thomas was cancelled in 2002. Is that so?--S.C.Ruffeyfan 16:56, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rumour 

message: Please do not even consider thinking about creating lists of the videos of 'Thomas' episodes that have been released.
Such pages are not appreciated here at WP.
If you don't believe me, follow these links to see what other editors think...
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/10 Years of Thomas and Friends --  (AfD log entry: 6 Oct 2006)
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas and Friends video releases --  (AfD log entry: 7 Aug 2007)
*Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Thomas and friends video – release --  (AfD log entry: 9 Oct 2007)
Be warned, I will not hesitate to support the deletion of similar unverifiable lists of Thomas videos and merchandise.
EdJogg 00:44, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists of 'Thomas' Videos – DO NOT CREATE!! 

message: A large number of pages on the lists of characters seem to be using =H1= styles rather than starting with ==H2==.  This is contrary to the advice at Wikipedia:Section#Creation and numbering of sections and  Wikipedia:Manual of Style#Section headings etc., and the pattern of use elsewhere in Wikipedia. I have changed a couple, but got tired   --Rumping (talk) 00:12, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Section headings== 

message: Hello readers of WikiProject Thomas!
I just wondered if any of you would be interested in joining up to Train Spotting World, a wiki just for railways and similar things! We are also in the process of setting up several "Workforces", similar to WikiProjects, and were wondering if anyone wnated to help!
Various wikipedians have goine over there, including myself, User:Tbo 157, User:Slambo, User:EdJogg, User:Timtrent and User:S.C.Ruffeyfan.
If you want more info, or have joined up and want some guidance, let me know here or there on my talk page!
Thanks,  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bluegoblin7 (talk • contribs) 19:52, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A new wiki specially for Trains... 

message: Dear WikiProject Thomas participants...WikiProject Media franchises needs some help from other projects which are similar. Media franchises' scope deals primarily with the coordination of articles within the hundreds if not thousands of media franchises which exist. Sometimes a franchise might just need color coordination of the various templates used; it could mean creating an article for the franchise as a jump off point for the children of it; or the creation of a new templating system for media franchise articles. The project primarily focuses on multimedia franchises. It would be great if some of this project's participants would come over and help the project get back on solid footing. Also, if you know of similar projects which have not received this, let  know. Please come and take a look at the project and see if you wish to lend a hand. You can sign up here if you wish. Thank you. LA  @ 21:44, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Media franchises 

message: Dear WikiProject Thomas participants...WikiProject Media franchises is currently discussing a naming convention for franchise articles. Since this may affect one or more articles in your project, we would like to get the opinions of all related projects before implimenting any sweeping changes. Please come and help us decide. Thanks! LA (T) @ 23:04, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like my thoughts came true. Just to give you all a fair warning, my merging ideas are probably right around the corner! I have a feeling that this will be the whole Sonic Character dispute all over again! Skeletal S.L.J.C.O.A.A.A.T.R. Soul 01:19 23:14, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Franchise naming convention discussion at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Media franchises|WikiProject Media franchises]] 

message: Hello fellow Thomas the Tank Engine WikiProject members!
I would like to post this as a formal invitation to the users here to join my new forum, which can be found at this link:
 The NEW Tugboats and Thomas Forums
There are many different discussions and room for plenty more, just follow the rules and have fun.
Several users here have already decided to join and I hope more will. Check it out and enjoy!!!
ZEM (Hankengine) (talk) 02:27, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invite 

message: If someone wants a little something to do (!?), it looks like the episode listing for "Tram Trouble" (between "James Works It Out" and "Don't Go Back"?) went missing on 30 Sept, and hasn't been seen since! Next TV showing appears to be on Fiver this coming weekend (Sat 8 Nov). Kwerty (talk) 20:49, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 12 episode "Tram Trouble" 

message: Someone has (re)created Thomas and Friends – Season 13.
At present it is not categorised, nor identified as a project page, but more to the point, there are no references for the information.
What is the current status of Pierce Brosnan, etc?
EdJogg (talk) 10:24, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 13 – here we go again... 

message: These are hard to come by. As mentioned previously, "The Thomas the Tank Engine Man" book includes refs to the first four series, although I don't think this has been quoted on WP yet.
At last, HIT have provided links to the characters on their website. For example http://www.thomasandfriends.com/uk/fergus.asp describes Fergus (and also provides access to the other characters in the "Engine Depot"). I think we should include links to all of these as references from the appropriate character descriptions. However, do watch out for inconsistencies: Duke is described as the oldest engine, whereas Skarloey and Rheneas are both older (although, of course, the TV Series never did pay much attention to the characters' real history!)
Interestingly, the US and UK sub-sites have different pages -- for example, the "Oliver" page lists 'brake van' in the UK and 'break van' in the US. (I think the US page must be a typo, surely? The Americans don't really refer to brakes as 'breaks' do they??) Surprisingly there is no page for Boco, Duck, Trevor or Terence. Nevertheless its a worthwhile addition to the pages.
Anyone care to take this on as a task?
EdJogg (talk) 11:44, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  References for TV Series characters 

message: This is loooooong overdue.
Project participants may be interested to know that I have finally got round to creating a standard user box:
Feel free to use this in place of the existing wide box, or to start using it if you haven't already done so.
The choice of text background colour is arbitrary, but seems OK to me. "NWR blue" is usually darker, but using something like it causes readibilty problems by reducing the contrast vs the text colour. The choice of picture is simple: any photo used must not be 'non-free use', which pretty much excludes ALL photos/graphics of Thomas etc. This photo of "Duck" is not really a photo of "Duck", right? It is a GWR Pannier tank loco wearing a face mask, and the resemblance to "Duck" is purely co-incidental... (You do understand, don't you....? It's really not "Duck", OK?)
EdJogg (talk) 13:01, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks great! ZEM talk to me! 13:56, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New User Box available 

message: Could someone review and correct the character links on the season pages please? In particular, Thomas and Friends – Series 4 and Thomas and Friends – Series 5 both have vast numbers of incorrect links, pointing to generic name pages rather than the TV Series characters. There are poor links on some of the other season pages too, with incorrect 'Henrietta' and 'Stanley' links both seen.
Thanks. -- EdJogg (talk) 13:44, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor linking on character pages 

message: I've created a barnstar for this project, to reward those who have made excellent contributions to Thomas-related articles.
--Gyrobo (talk) 20:08, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: LOL! It never occurred to me to create a barnstar. Pity that most of the contributors (to date) who deserve it are no longer on WP... -- EdJogg (talk) 13:26, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barnstar 

message: Since Thomas and friends airs on PBSKIDS in th US> I Included it in the PBSKIDS project. So all Thomas pages will need the PBSKIDS project tempeltes as well. If you are not a member of the PBSKIDS project please join. Thanks
	Hello , thank you for your contributions on articles related to PBS Kids. I'd like to invite you to become a part of Wikipedia:WikiProject PBSKids, a WikiProject aimed at improving the quality of PBS Kids articles on Wikipedia. If you would like to participate, please visit the project page for more information. Thanks!
Checker Fred (talk) 18:20, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Remember that this should only apply to the TV series -related pages. -- EdJogg (talk) 13:08, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project 

message: The banner template identifying articles as falling within the scope of this WikiProject has been renamed to be consistent with other projects.
 has been renamed 
Please update any pages that still use the old name when you edit the talk page, but please don't edit just to rename the template. (This unnecessarily inflates the edit history and wastes reviewing time of other editors.) Thank you.
EdJogg (talk) 13:14, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You could always commission a bot to do it – otherwise it'll probably get forgotten about (I expect I will next time I edit a talk page...)—User:MDCollins (talk) 23:34, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's no big deal, either way, but not really worth a special edit. Just apply it when you see it / remember (as I am doing with the Wilbert Awdry links). Happy for a bot to do it, but won't pursue myself. Will probably happen one day when someone decides to clear up 'redirects to project banners'.... -- EdJogg (talk) 23:54, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project banner template renamed 

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thread_title:  WikiProject cleanup listing 

message: Copied from User talk:Penrithguy -- EdJogg (talk) 14:40, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomination of [[Tidmouth]] for deletion 

message: I found:
*Roake, Jessica. "Thomas the Imperialist Tank Engine." Slate. Tuesday July 26, 2011.
It talks about imperialistic views in the Railway series
WhisperToMe (talk) 04:20, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure I'd want to use it as a reference of any kind. It's mostly about the television series (although this isn't really made clear) but the sections relating to the books ignore the fact that they were written up to 60 years ago when opinions, etc, were somewhat different (and also its a US publication commenting on a British creation). I've read many more-interesting articles. -- EdJogg (talk) 22:39, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slate article on imperialism 

message: Just a notification that an editor has nominated Hero of the Rails for deletion at Articles for Deletion – interested editors can comment here. Thank-you. Acather96 (click here to contact me) 20:10, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  AfD notice 

message: Everybody look at this! On the Hebrew Wikipedia, we now have a Thomas & Friends and The Railway Series project under Hamikbatz HaShvu'i. It is set to launch on August 24 this year. Will any of you wanna participate? Lior (talk) 08:57, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thomas Collaboration on [[Hebrew Wikipedia|heWiki]] 

message: Hello there! As you may already know, most WikiProjects here on Wikipedia struggle to stay active after they've been founded. I believe there is a lot of potential for WikiProjects to facilitate collaboration across subject areas, so I have submitted a grant proposal with the Wikimedia Foundation for the "WikiProject X" project. WikiProject X will study what makes WikiProjects succeed in retaining editors and then design a prototype WikiProject system that will recruit contributors to WikiProjects and help them run effectively. Please review the proposal here and leave feedback. If you have any questions, you can ask on the proposal page or leave a message on my talk page. Thank you for your time! (Also, sorry about the posting mistake earlier. If someone already moved my message to the talk page, feel free to remove this posting.) Harej (talk) 22:48, 1 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment on the WikiProject X proposal 

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thread_title:  WikiProject X is live! 

message: See Talk:List of Thomas & Friends railway engines#Oliver Island. TIA Andrewa (talk) 22:06, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oliver Island 

message: There's a discussion at Talk:List of Railway Series books#Notability and primary sources tags in which I'd like some input. TIA Andrewa (talk) 05:04, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Railway Series books 

message: I would like to revive this project... anyone else interested? Andrewa (talk) 20:02, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Active again 

message: Would anyone prefer this to the photographs currently in use? Robin S. Taylor (talk) 14:45, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Logo 

message: A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.
:– Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  A new newsletter directory is out! 

message: Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.
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thread_title:  Request for information on WP1.0 web tool 

message: I invite editors to join the discussion at WP:WikiProject Television to convert many inactive WikiProjects into taskforces, including this one. – sgeureka t•c 14:37, 14 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turn this WikiProject into a Taskforce? 

message: Be aware there indications and mutterings at a couple of ongoing AfD's that articles relating to Thomas are to be deleted.  Early results will likely form a basis for future nominations.  It may be people are happy for these to go or check key article are robust.  Articles affected certainly include Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Duck the Great Western Engine and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Thomas & Friends railway engines.  Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 04:22, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Also Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Arlesdale Railway (2nd nomination); Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Mid Sodor Railway; Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Culdee Fell Railway; Talk:North Western Railway (fictional)#Merge proposal. Skarloey Railway seems likely to be deleted soon, given that it had a declined PROD recently. WT79 (speak to me | editing patterns | what I been doing) 08:24, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks WT79, I notice relevant discussions at Talk:North Western Railway (fictional) but these need to be had here to determine the best may to proceed or if any merges etc are appropriate for the future shape of the project.  Thankyou.Djm-leighpark (talk) 09:03, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

text: * Core article that certainly look as a glance to have. Bigdelboy (talk) 09:50, 23 August 2020 (UTC)

text: * Potential new article to describe the rise of Thomas day Out, Thomas theme park and other visitable exhibitions. Bigdelboy (talk) 09:50, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  General deletion of Thomas articles 

message: It is becoming pragmatically apparent most Thomas related articles will be deleted and it is important to concentrate on the between one and a handful that might remain.  Please list any suggestions for retention, or even new articles, below (please note I intend to use account  rather than my usual  so I can leverage some automation over mass articles ... I may for instance use it to bundle remaining Thomas articles for deletion in one go ... I am certainly minded to do so.  Thankyou.  Bigdelboy (talk)
* :Thomas the Tank Engine
:* Core article that certainly look as a glance to have. Bigdelboy (talk) 09:50, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: * Potential new article to describe the rise of Thomas day Out, Thomas theme park and other visitable exhibitions. Bigdelboy (talk) 09:50, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Articles to remain 

message: It seems that this project is barely active and that of the articles we curated the vast majority are being junked. Is there any point in having this Wiki Project anymore? Robin S. Taylor (talk) 12:16, 25 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It may be just worth keeping at a place to oversee a collaspe to aa handful of articles; thereafter it likely becomes mostly redundant.  That may mean 6 to 8 weeks.  Djm-leighpark (talk) 21:34, 8 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Seems a great shame that so much work has been trashed, but it was always an uphill struggle trying to keep anything vaguely appropriate for Wikipedia free of fancruft from young fans of the TV series. The original books are notable and various elements could be referenced to published works, of which there are several. (They are rare, but I have sourced copies.). Some years ago I was highly active soon after the start of this project, and fought valiantly to maintain editorial standards within the articles, but there was too much work for one person, and my ToDo list grew exponentially. Subsequently, to maintain my sanity I have had to keep away from the site, except for minor edits when I refer to articles, as I discovered that Wikipedia editing was dangerously addictive. -- EdJogg (talk) 23:03, 17 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disband? 

message: I have illustrated coats of arms for entities in the franchise. Sadly, there isn't really a place here for most of them to be used since the proverbial Beeching axe was taken to us last year. Perhaps they could be used on the fan wiki, but I can't be bothered to set up a Fandom account just for that purpose. If there's anyone reading this who already has an account (or knows someone else who is active on that site), perhaps you could pass these along?
Crovan's Gate Achievement.png|Crovan's Gate
North Western Railway Achievement.png|North Western Railway
File:Tidmouth Achievement.png|Tidmouth
File:Suddery Achievement.png|Suddery
File:Sodor Achievement.png|Robert Norramby
For more details, see here: 
Robin S. Taylor (talk) 17:57, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sudrian Heraldry 

message: I feel like this might be a good idea. As Thomas has a massive legacy to it and most of the characters are well known. Thomasfan1000 (talk) 19:18, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we bring back more individual character pages? 

message: If Big World! Big Adventures! The Movie gets an article (I think it is more notable than Blue Mountain Mystery) I found some sources which would be good:
*  (https://www.commonsensemedia.org/movie-reviews/thomas-friends-big-world-big-adventures-the-movie) This source would be good for a "Reception" section.
*  (https://www.boxofficemojo.com/release/rl2097185793/weekend/) Box Office Mojo is usually reliable for statistics, not for notability though.
* (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/film-review-thomas-friends-big-world-big-adventures-themovie-2lz69g70z) Very basic film review and I don't know how reliable The Times is (although it is a notable newspaper).
The Gaurdian also did a review (https://www.theguardian.com/film/2018/jul/18/thomas-friends-big-world-big-adventures-the-movie-review-peter-andre), but it is very biased and wouldn't work as a source.
So it may just be enough to get an article, but one would take some time to write. RanDom 404 (talk) 01:22, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources for Big World! Big Adventures! The Movie article 

message: At Talk:John Wither Awdry I've tried putting together a family tree of the Awdrys based on what can be found in Burke's Landed Gentry and Fox-Davies's Armorial Families. Robin S. Taylor (talk) 17:19, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awdry Geneaology