Talk:Final Fantasy VI/Archive 1

message: === Other CDs ===
List of other CDs featuring music from the game:
* Final Fantasy 1987-1994
* The Best of Final Fantasy 1994 – 1999: A Musical Tribute
* Final Fantasy Vocal Collections 1 ~ Pray
* Final Fantasy Vocal Collections 2 ~ Love Will Grow
* Final Fantasy N Generation
* The Black Mages
* Fantastic Wave – Final Fantasy Sound Fair – promotion CD
* 20020220 Music From Final Fantasy – music from a concert held in Tokyo on 20 February 2002
* POTION – Relaxin' with Final Fantasy
* Best of Final Fantasy 1994-1999 A Musical Tribute
* Project Majestic Mix Gold Edition
* Project Majestic Mix Silver Edition
: I snipped this section because it's extremely obscure -- it might be better off on a Music of Final Fantasy article, if we have such a thing. Otherwise, I'd guess that most people who want any information this specific will go to an FAQ. (Which would probably have a more up-to-date list, anyway.) jdb ❋ (talk) 04:45, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  cds 

message: List of other CDs featuring music from the game:
* Final Fantasy 1987-1994
* The Best of Final Fantasy 1994 – 1999: A Musical Tribute
* Final Fantasy Vocal Collections 1 ~ Pray
* Final Fantasy Vocal Collections 2 ~ Love Will Grow
* Final Fantasy N Generation
* The Black Mages
* Fantastic Wave – Final Fantasy Sound Fair – promotion CD
* 20020220 Music From Final Fantasy – music from a concert held in Tokyo on 20 February 2002
* POTION – Relaxin' with Final Fantasy
* Best of Final Fantasy 1994-1999 A Musical Tribute
* Project Majestic Mix Gold Edition
* Project Majestic Mix Silver Edition
: I snipped this section because it's extremely obscure -- it might be better off on a Music of Final Fantasy article, if we have such a thing. Otherwise, I'd guess that most people who want any information this specific will go to an FAQ. (Which would probably have a more up-to-date list, anyway.) jdb ❋ (talk) 04:45, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other CDs 

message: What are the odds of getting this made into a feature article?-- ZeWrestler 00:51 March 15, 2005 (UTC)
:Very small. Harp Heaven 12:37, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Touché.  Featured article on 6/20/2007 --sumnjim talk with me·changes 18:24, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured Article 

message: I remember an option in the game that allowed users to divide control of party members between two users.  Would that classify as a multiplayer mode for the game? --ZeWrestler  2:05 16 March, 2005
*I thought this was only available when using the Game Genie. Tim Rhymeless  (Er...let's shimmy)  04:53, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multi player mode? 

message: A recent flash animation: Sega Fantasy is making the rounds.  The animation retells the final battle (and ending) using videogame consoles instead of characters from the game.  Coming in at over thirty minutes, it reflects a lot of work.
--GSBertrand 15:22, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sega Fantasy 

message: Take a look at the Light of Judgement artical.  I personally think that artical is not needed, and if anything should probally be merged with the Kefka artical or the artical about Tzen.  What do you guys think?  --ZeWrestler 21:37, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Light of Judgement 

message: I moved "Image:Final Fantasy VI JAP Final Kefka.png" to Kefka Palazzo.
The problem with the picture was that it's a screenshot of the very last boss of the game. While I agree in principle that Spoiler Warning should be enough, I think pictures are kind of pushing it. Especially if you can't really edit the caption of the image to make it a bit less incriminating.
I don't see why we'd need to put specifically the last form of Kefka here; any screenie of Kefka would do! (I'll put the other screenie from Kefka article here instead, maybe it's less annoying.)
There's a huge-o-nomous discussion about this in Talk:Final Fantasy VII (regarding Safer Sephiroth pic in Final Fantasy VII article). I hope there's some sort of consensus about posting final boss pics in the articles. In the meantime...?
--Wwwwolf 19:51, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kefka screenshot 

message: What ever happened to the table that showed the differances between US and Japanese versions of the game? --ZeWrestler  Talk 12:30, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It was removed.  I think the name changes are explained better in the paragraph following the bullet list anyway. Nifboy 20:17, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differances Table 

message: What's the official spelling of the Japanese Rōmaji of Final Fantasy. On the Final Fantasy article, it's Fainaru Fantajii while on the Internet Movie Database it's Fainaru Fantajî, a slight difference, maybe the two are good but I really don't know Japanese. Also maybe we should include the Japanese name next to the english name at the top of the Final Fantasy VI article but not before knowing which one is the real one. – DarkEvil 14:34, July 31, 2005 (UTC)
62.252.32.13Fainaru Fantaji- VII
http://www.square-enix.com/jp/index_f.html
Square-Enix use this spelling for the Final Fantasy VII, so I guess it's the same for Final Fantasy VI. Japan has an alphabet for foreign words. So the Final Fantasy title is in English, but in Japanese writing style. The extra I came from romanization of the Japanese characters. The most accurate way to spell it is Fainaru Fantaji-, because that's an exact romanised version of the way Square-Enix spell it. 62.252.32.13 11:49, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final Fantasy's Japanese name 

message: i edited the paragraph to be coherent as is, but as another editor pointed out, we jumped from the first hour to about halfway through the game in a second. we need to change it all or add some of the filler details. Lockeownzj00 19:21, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  recent story edit 

message: I'm removing the Wikipedia link for Tim Rogers as it seems that the insert credit Tim Rogers does not have a Wikipedia page.  The Tim Rogers that was linked before is about some Australian band's founder.  If anyone feels like giving ic Tim Rogers a page feel free to change the link back so that it is correct. --FDIS 06:22, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tim Rogers Quotation and Link 

message: How would people feel about removing the infobox picture entirely?  Any image we put there is already at the bottom of the page in the gallery.  I'm not sure an image is needed, and it would keep the infobox from trickling down into the next heading.  -- Norvy (talk) 22:30, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox picture 

message: If we decide to trim down the graphical censorship section, let's discuss what to keep and what to drop.  I like the following, mainly because you don't have to squint to see the differences:
* Chadnook
* Misty - shows that it wasn't only nudity
* Goddess
* Siren
The title screen and the pub are described in the text, so let's drop 'em.  I think four is a would be a reasonable sampling.  Thoughts?  -- Norvy (talk) 22:47, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trimming down graphical censorship 

message: well, I would really hate to remove the pictures from both sections, so can anyone else think of some information that should be added into those sections.  BrianSmithson had some ideas in the peer review to include information about the mixes of the game. --ZeWrestler  Talk 00:04, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe search some game-music sites (not just OverClocked or VGMix, but also the ones that sell game CDs) and see if they have online reviews (preferably from members of the site staff and not fans). Other sites who I know have professionally arranged Uematsu's work are Project Majestic Mix and OneUp Studios. Discussing those might be a start. That said, it would be much better if you could give some sense of the critical reaction to the CDs in Japan. Is there anyone who knows Japanese watching the page? BrianSmithson 00:37, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Musical scores and graphics section 

message: The infobox lists single- and multiplayer modes. But the multiplayer mode of FF6 is not very important at all, and isn't even mentioned in the article. So I propose to either remove the multiplayer mode from the infobox, or add a short paragraph on it in the gameplay section. I'd do it myself, but I'm not quite sure exactly how the multiplayer mode works, I never used it and don't have the game at hand right now. -- grm_wnr Esc 14:26, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: See multi-player mode heading above.   Basically, you can assign different characters to different controllers in battle only.  It seemed like a last minute hack to let them market it as a multi-player game, and I doubt many people played it as such.  I'd support removing the mode section from the infobox entirely.  -- Norvy (talk) 15:00, 2 September 2005 (UTC)

text: I added a small sentance to the game play section. --ZeWrestler  Talk 15:38, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiplayer 

message: The more I look at the original infobox, the less I like it. Specifically, I really don't like the number of linebreaks in the release dates and publisher section. I've modified the two box approach, and hope that by moving the box art to a seperate section (while keeping the original Japanese box art in the first box) we can eliminate the length problem others have noted: on my display, at least, the new arrangement actually takes less height than the old combined 'box. 
::Ah, that looks pretty good. Still, I hope we can convince enough people that the logo makes sense for the infobox in this case.... – Seancdaug 16:42, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
Also, I made a number of copyedits to the graphics, music, and censorship section. My biggest concern is that a lot of NPOV editorializing is already starting to creep back into the censorship section. In particular, the comment about "adult themes" in the game was pretty baldly NPOV, kind of irrelevant, and unsubstantiated (FF6 was not even among the first games to deal with the concept of genocide or suicide, and really wasn't even the first game in the series to do so, and calling "teen pregnancy" a major issue in the game is a bit excessive, given the circumstances in which it is presented).  – Seancdaug 15:50, September 2, 2005 (UTC)
*Do what you have to in order to reduce the problem. --ZeWrestler  Talk 17:24, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not make an article was what was censored?--Dangerous-Boy 06:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyediting and infoboxes 

message: Per the FAC I've started this to-do list of items mentioned during the FAC that need to be done to this article.  
#The infobox problem.  Either convince the CVG project to losen their consenus, or try and convince them to create a special exception for an consensus we have. 
#The character list.  Prose or table?  What would look better and be more efficient.
#An improvement list/outline.  Tony suggested somesort of way saying how the game has improved since the last.
If anyone else has more suggestions, add them here and we'll work on them. --ZeWrestler  Talk 17:58, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  To-do list 

message: (this "to-do list", I thought about doing like in,e.g. Talk:Mars, but the beginning has too many stuff!:) 
I've read in the IMDb that Square made "a N64 test demo" featuring FFVI characters, and recently, I've found a link to images of those trailers . Can  this have any place on the article? igordebraga ≠ 00:10, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: An article already exists, and it's not technically an N64 demo: it's a SGI workstation demo. At the time a lot of people assumed it was a demo of what a FF game would look like on the N64, since the N64 used similar hardware to the new SGI workstations purchased by Square, but that's pretty much unverified fan rumor, and it's equally likely that it was a demo for the sort of rendering used for the full motion video of FF7 and later. – Seancdaug 02:59, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn´t know... it´s because I found a page, and sent to the VFD. igordebraga ≠ 14:03, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  I've found something... 

message: Isn't the information on the speedrun fan-cruft? --JiFish(Talk/Contrib) 18:23, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably. I just fixed it up in case it isn't. Remove it if you think it is. ~ Hibana 19:15, 11 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Warrants a short mention, though I'm not sure if this article is the place for it. Someone ought to ramble about that in the speedrun article, simply because few people have the patience to make (or watch) RPG speedruns. (I mean, I watched through the FF6 speedrun, and my God, was that ever boring, not quite as thrilling as sub-10-minute Metroid runs!) --Wwwwolf 20:00, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speedrun 

message: Final Fantasy VI's character pages are up for deletion by user A Link to the Past. His justification is that they "only appears in one game." I'm wondering if anyone has the authority to simply take the AfD down. Otherwise, everyone vote. ~ Hibana 00:18, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: ...Um, you DO realize that what you're doing is against guidelines. - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:23, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, actually, it's not. Please don't remove this or similar notices in the future. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 03:12, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Well, you can ask an admin to close the AFDs as speedy keep if you feel that the AFDs are in bad faith, but I'm convinced of LttP's good faith. I'm not sure this is the best way to begin this discussion, but I do feel that the FFVI character articles could stand to be merged somewhere. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 03:11, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Like Piccolo, I was assuming bad faith, which is frowned upon in circumstances such as these, and I apologize for assuming such. - A Link to the Past (talk) 03:49, 15 October 2005 (UTC)

text: The proper article is List of Final Fantasy VI characters. List of Final Fantasy characters is a lingering catch-all that was created a long time ago and has basically stuck around while we finish creating lists for each individual game. Eventually, it will be retooled into a list of characters from the original Final Fantasy, and information regarding all other games will be removed. This actually came up recently over at the WikiProject talk page, if you'd like to swing by and see for yourself. – Seancdaug 13:23, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Final Fantasy VI character pages up for deletion

message: I believe the information on ATB battles is incorrect.  
"Compared to previous titles featuring the Active Time Battle, the player is able to pick any character who has a filled action bar and has not yet received any commands, instead of forcing the player to issue commands to whatever character had their action bar filled first." 
If I remember correctly, you could wait for another characters bar to fill, then press X I believe and you could input commands for the other character.  I think this sentance should therefore be removed. 
-Raum
:Are you talking about the older games in which you could press X or this one? If you're talking about this one, that's what is meant by "the player is able to pick any character who has a filled action bar and has not yet received any commands".--DarkEvil 18:24, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct; this is the first atb FF to allow you to defer a character's turn.  Perhaps the prose in the article could be cleared up a bit? 132.162.213.109 22:00, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you sure about that? It's been a while since I played Final Fantasy V, but I remember this being the case in that game, as well.... – Seancdaug 23:56, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep; just double checked against the fan translate of FFV SNES; no can do.  Perhaps it was added in the PSX remake? 132.162.213.109 21:11, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  ATB Information Incorrect?