Talk:Dovestone Reservoir

message: I think this image is a more befitting image to take the lead section here. Ant thoughts? --Jza84 |  Talk   19:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
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message: I propose merging the following articles into Dovestones.  Greenfield Reservoir, Yeoman Hey Reservoir, and Chew Reservoir (Greater Manchester), since all three are in a rough alignment (here).  There seems little point keeping them separate given their article status. Parrot of Doom (talk) 19:56, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: User:J3Mrs considers the story of "Neil Dovestone" to be "trivia and off topic" and has removed a reference to this incident twice from this article. Personally (along with User:MorbidStories who originally added it to the article) I consider it a notable, newsworthy aspect of the place and worthy of its brief mention. I wouldn't want to see this "popular culture" aspect assume undue prominence in the article, but the current two-line, three-sentence paragraph is adequately referenced to reputable sources, including a long-form article on the BBC News website. Inviting other views. Dave.Dunford (talk) 11:55, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What does it tell us about the reservoir? Nothing making it off topic. Not everything reported in newspapers is suitable for inclusion in an encyclopedia. He was found on the Chew track, closer to Chew Reservoir. J3Mrs (talk) 13:20, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: There's something in your last point, though the guy is known as "Neil Dovestone" and is clearly associated – in the public imagination at least – with this site (I note that the BBC describes the location as "Beauty spot, Chew Track from Dovestone Reservoir" and reports that "For a surname, they called him Dovestones, after the reservoir close to where he was found. That is how, for now at least, the man on the moor became Neil Dovestones.") I disagree that this incident isn't "suitable for inclusion in an encyclopedia" – it has its own article (which nobody has challenged), it was widely reported in the serious national press, and the subject of an official enquiry. I can't see why you object so much to a short paragraph about an incident that was widely reported and is popularly associated with this site. Saddleworth Moor has plenty about the Moors murders and you could argue just the same – what do the murders tell you about the Moor? What does the Battle of Edgehill tell you about Edge Hill, Warwickshire? These are (to varying degrees, granted) noteworthy events that are associated with certain places, and it surely warrants a couple of sentences: articles about locations aren't solely about geography. I'll hazard a guess that at least some readers of the article came here as a result of the story. Dave.Dunford (talk) 15:04, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I still think it irrelevant, I have copyedited it. Some events are more noteworthy than others. J3Mrs (talk) 15:16, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neil Dovestone 

message: Nobody knows how to spell Dove Stone; my husband even thought it was Dovestones.  However, the Council give it two words, United Utilities, who own the place, give it two words, and RSPB, who have an interest, give it two words.  The overall preference, googling, and considering the authority of each source, does appear to be two words.  Please can you correct it to Dove Stone, with Dovestone as a popular alternative?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.93.221.66 (talk) 09:34, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless of if you perceive Dovestone reservoir to be in Yorkshire, it is now officially part of Greater Manchester (which definitely does exist as a metropolitan county) even if the area historically was in Yorkshire. Only the official and current county boundaries should be given prominence here otherwise it will be misleading to people reading the article, although you could mention briefly that the area is historically in the West Riding of Yorkshire. And I'm quite sure the spelling Dovestone is more commonly used throughout the country than Dove Stone. Broman178 (talk) 20:11, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dove Stone or Dovestone