Talk:Catherine Dolgorukova

message: There seems to exist a need of a more extensive consideration of viable options. Arrigo. Options are presented furthest below (thread 5) and there also should debate take place. 09:31, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: move to Catherine Dolgoruki - 
per Wiki convention re queens consort Mowens35 19:39, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: earlier movings

message: With some other additional, slightly different reasons, I vote yes to the proposed move. Arrigo 08:50, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Yes

message: Please could someone list some other wikipedia examples. Philip Baird Shearer 07:45, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Wrong (about Google). If it were 4-7, then yes, probabilistic statistical variation makes that meaningless. 200-2, on the other hand, is not meaningless in probability/statistical terms. Noel (talk) 23:23, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  You are probably forgetting that samples are not statistically independent here. · Naive cynic · 10:18, 3 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Read above: Dolgoruki/Dolgorouki/Dolgorukiy is a rather incompetent spelling whose use was strongly discouraged by the greatest Russian genealogist, Prince Pyotr Dolgorukov, as well as by other members of the Dolgorukov family --Ghirlandajo 10:24, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ah, thank you. I have edited the article accordingly. -- Naive cynic 14:17, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: that's an answer I suppose, but not the one we're looking for. How common is Dolgoruky in Russian (i.e. is P Dolgorukov ranting against common use, or against some obscure variant?) Why is it incompetent? How did the variant arise, and what connotations does it have? dab (ᛏ) 07:25, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Debate

message: # Ekaterina Mikhailovna Dolgorukova
# Ekaterina Mikhailovna Dolgorukaya
# Catherine Dolgorukova
# Catherine Dolgorukov
# Catherine Dolgoruki
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(When debating, please do not use above numbers, use the full text of the option in question. Have seen situations where numberings change due to new options introduced.)
===Debate===
At least we know that her notability comes from being the morganatic wife of Alexander II of Russia, in an era when Russia was international, thus she was noted in Western Europe. Very obviously, that is the reason why she is known as "Catherine" - otherwise we would not even consider that given name version. Arrigo 09:48, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal to rename

message: At least we know that her notability comes from being the morganatic wife of Alexander II of Russia, in an era when Russia was international, thus she was noted in Western Europe. Very obviously, that is the reason why she is known as "Catherine" - otherwise we would not even consider that given name version. Arrigo 09:48, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Debate

message: This requested move has been listed on WP:RM since 31 August, and there has been no activity on this talk page since 9 September. Is it fair to say that "no clear consensus has been reached" and the request can be deleted? –Hajor 03:51, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Stalemate?

message: It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. Ryan Norton T | @ | C 00:20, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Decision

message: Hi. This article now qualifies for start, with good referencing, proper tone and sectioning (Trivia converted to In media and wikified). I can find no reference at all to the 1959 film version of Katia being named anything other in USA film, therefore the footnote removed until sourced, when it can be re-added. Thanks. Ref (chew)(do) 12:40, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rated start-Class

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