Talk:Bernard Kerik

message: :Of course, it must be kept in mind that "being assigned to the most substantial narcotic investigations(sic) in the history of the department" is not quite the same as "heading up" the investigation.  What was Kerik's role?  Was he a lead detective on the case or just a "gopher" for the more experienced detectives?
Please attribute POV to the source which asserts or advocates it. If you personally doubt a source, you can't just say so in the body of the article; that's what this talk page is for. But if you can find somebody else who is a quotable authority and who doubts the other source, you are eagerly invited to add this info into the article. --user:Ed Poor (talk) 21:01, Dec 6, 2004 (UTC)
The Police Commissioner of the City of New York was Kerik's title and a page that should be created.  Changing it to simple "police commission" when that apparently doesn't warrant a page either seems kind of pointless.
--TheGrza 01:49, Dec 17, 2004 (UTC)
:I changed it to  Police commissioner of the City of New York.  Given that police commission has no article and that police commission of new york city has no article, what are the odds that someone is actually going to create  Police Commissioner of the City of New York in the near future?  At least the link I changed it to had some prospect of a useful article being written for it someday soon.  Or, are you planning to write that specific article? Wolfman 02:30, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Three questions:
How many kids does he have and how old? Is he still married?
He's been married since '98 to a woman named Hala, a Syrian immigrant. At the time of his nomination to run DHS, they had two children, who could have been born anytime between 1999 and 2003, I suppose. She's the third Mrs. Kerik--apparently, he expunged all evidence of marriage no. 1 from the public record and even his best friends didn't know about it until evidence emerged when the wheels fell off the nomination wagon. Andrewjnyc 04:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: does he have kids?

message: What is the evidence that he is an Autodidact or a Commander of the Order of the British Empire, as implied by the Categories assigned? Bejnar 21:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Categories

message: The article should probably include info about how the Manhattan jail was renamed in his honor by Giuliani, then unceremoniously de-named in the middle of the night on July 1 or 2 2006 following his guilty plea. I would expect the best place to add this would be in the sentence following the description of said plea. I can do the honors if no-one else steps up in the next day or so.Andrewjnyc 04:33, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jail renaming/unnaming

message: I think that the dollar amounts of the loan and gift are important to state, so that readers will neither exaggerate, nor belittle, the size of the infractions. Bejnar 03:39, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dollar amounts

message: I am curious to find out what kind of training an MP (who only serves 3 years) can offer to Special Forces personnel that would be worthy of noting? I seriously doubt an MP with so little time in service would would be instructing SOF personnel on tactics. What was it that he trained these highly skilled operators how to do? Please show me the light...
See the section below about his tenure at the Interior Ministry.  Apparently Kerik was little more than a strutting blowhard. 152.31.193.132 14:40, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Military experience

message: I thought this article  had some interesting facts that should be included into this article. 12.40.175.229 18:22, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New information about Kerik's term as head of Iraq's Interior Ministry

message: Good day
I have read his book "The Lost Boy"
I would like to e-mail him to let him know that I really cried when I read the book.
I am also a daughter who the Government took my mom and she died when I was younger.
Thank you 
Judy Franey
e-mail: qupak@northwestel.net
I am a Canadian  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.189.224.189 (talk) 22:17, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: would like to email Bernard Kerik

message: Kerik didn't find the flag or do anything notable with it that I can detect. Why is it discussed on this page? Uucp (talk) 22:47, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I also couldn't see the revelance, so I've transferred it to World Trade Centre. MickMacNee (talk) 18:16, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Why is the "WTC American Flag" section here

message: The introduction to this "Personal Life" section is garbled.
  
"Kerik's first child was a daughter born out of wedlock, when he was 19 and serving in South Korea as a military policeman. The daughter, Lisa Marie Jordan, married to no son in law Joshua Jordan, having two grand children from that marriage, was born in October 1975. Her mother is a woman identified as Yi Yun Cha. In February 1976, Kerik completed his tour of duty in South Korea and was transferred back to the United States, leaving both women behind. In his autobiography, Kerik called the episode 'a mistake I will always regret, and I pray to God that one day I can make it right.' In December, 2001, Kerik and his daughter Lisa re-united after 26 years of separation. From his daughter, he has two grandchildren."
  
I cannot find authority for these statements so I don't know how to fix this. -- Komowkwa (talk) 01:05, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal Life

message: I would submit that Wikipedia is not the proper forum for republication of minor submissions of every crackpot and/or felon who testified before the committee. For example, the testimony of Kerick includes the following: "There must be internal monitoring systems that will insure efficiency and accountability with regard to information sharing and communications." Obviously, the signal-to-noise ratio in this sentence is very low. It is just a string of bureaucratic buzzwords. I attempt to bring greater precision and a degree of conciseness to this section was immediately reverted as vandalism. Wikipedia is devolving into a cut-and-paste operation with no attempt at thoughtful editorial control -- merely the petty exercise of power by "moderators."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.30.69.83 (talk) 03:07, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States

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message: Why is convicted felon in the first sentence, over former NYC Police Commissioner or DHS nominee?
Is it typical on Wikileaks to include this in the first sentence for convicted felons?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.104.3.155 (talk) 20:21, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead sentence shouldn't include felon 

message: The sentence about the recent pardon should be the start of a new paragraph. 
The pardon also makes "convicted criminal" (as the second item!) in the lede even more ridiculous POV than it had been until now.  73.149.246.232 (talk) 00:20, 20 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  pardon is notable event that deserves its own paragraph 

message: To add to this article:  Kerik was involved with the 2021 United States Capitol attack, and was in the "war room" of the Willard Hotel in advance of the insurrection, helping to plan it. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 04:48, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: To add to article

message: I am unsure of both the general relevance of the story about Kerik's appearance on the Shawn Ryan Show and its placement in this section. If anything, it seems as though this might be relevant to his career--not necessarily his personal life. It also seems questionable to me to include extensive quotes from an interview by an article's subject. I am a relatively novice Wikipedian, so if this is acceptable practice, I am happy to learn. Flawlessfrogs (talk) 13:36, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I deleted it. It was sourced to a YouTube video and who is Shawn Ryan? WP:UNDUE. – Muboshgu (talk) 15:30, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relevance of last anecdote in Personal Life section