Talk:Spencer repeating rifle

message: Several posts in this article are in need of citation and are likely not factually accurate. I have notated them, and I am adding in additional information regarding the factual errors in this discussion page. I am not editing the front page, because I believe it to be important that people see that an attempt is being made to police the overwhelmingly great number of factually inaccurate firearms pages on Wikipedia.
In order:
1) Source?  Although it was widely used by the Union Army, the weapon adopted after the M1841/M1842 rifle was the M1868 "Trapdoor" rifle.
:I'm almost certain that the Spencer did not replace the Springfield as the standard issue rifle of the U.S. I'm removing that sentence. 75.75.110.235 17:20, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Revisions Needed

message: I replaced the link to the Dreyse Needle Gun with a link to the Springfield Trapdoor rifle. Reason: Dreyses have no hammer.--hmaag (talk) 11:29, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Replaced Link

message: The statement using those words in "underpowered by the standards of ... 45-70" are a little bit misleading, comparing cartridges in their infancy (Model 1860-1865 Spencers) of the rimfire type to first/second generation centerfire cartridges of a decade or more later (1873).  A better comparison might be with cartridges contemporary of the civil war, and with those used in repeating rifles, such as Henry 44 caliber rimfires.  Another comparison could be with current contemporary cartridges which 56 caliber rimfires might be close or almost equal to?
144.183.224.2 (talk) 23:04, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have reliable sources that discuss this comparison please point them out so we can update the article. Also note that the .50-70 mentioned in the same sentence was adopted in the same time-frame. Thanks. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 23:09, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Underpowered - Standards 

message: Winchester bought the company to obtain the Patent Rights, and Sold all the Machinery, and did not produce Spencer rifles, (why - when it could sell Winchester 1865 rifles instead).  There was another manufacturer of Spencer M1860/65 rifles - does the name of Union Brigadier General Ambrose E. Burnside ring a bell?
144.183.224.2 (talk) 23:18, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: So if you're saying the article is incorrect, just point us to a reliable source or based on that source, update the article yourself. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 23:20, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Ok, I found a ref for Burnside. I don't have any ref that says Winchester didn't build any yet. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 23:40, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  MFGR: Winchester! 

message: The article states the length of the Spencer repeating rifle as 30 inches, which can't possibly be true since the shoulder stock and action of any rifle/carbine of that type is at least 20 inches, plus whatever the barrel length is. So what is the correct length of the Spencer? Allan Akbar (talk) 16:17, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I found the info on the 'Net and added it to the article, with a reference. Allan Akbar (talk) 16:25, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overall length 

message: The reference (15) of Houze, Herb (28 February 2011), Winchester Repeating Arms Company, clearly states that Winchester purchased "completed arms" and merely sold them.  No mention of manufacture (or even assembly).  In fact the reference states that Winchester sold all of the machinery (i.e., that which would be used to manufacture the item) at public auction in Boston.  Delete Winchester as a manufacturer until there is a source that clearly states that they made 1 (or more).  The reference does mention a "Fogarty Repeating Rifle Company of Boston" and an "American Repeating Rifle Company" but does not quantify the number of arms they may have produced, if any, (or not - like Winchester).  
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.183.224.2 (talk) 17:43, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two (2) U.S. Manufacturers? 

message: "Gettysburg was the first major battle of the war where Spencer rifles were used, [NOTE: The Battle of Hoover’s Gap took place on 24th June 1863, one week before Gettysburg. Hoover’s Gap had few Union casualties because Wilder’s Lightning Brigade was armed with Spencer Rifles.] as they had recently been issued to the 13th Pennsylvania Reserves."
This is far from WP style; the punctuation isn't even right. I'll hold off reverting the edit in case others believe this point should be included in the article somewhere, but it can't stand the way it is. Laodah 05:59, 22 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Ham-handed editing