Talk:Gateway Program (Vancouver)

message: Reference to Alex Fraser Bridge widening has been deleted.
This bridge was originally opened with only four lanes.  There was additional capacity on the bridge and after only nine months the additional two lanes were made "fully operational."  see: http://www.leg.bc.ca/HANSARD/34th3rd/34p_03s_890516p.htm#06811 
I have found some references that indicate that this additional capacity may have been intended for transit: (see http://2010watch.com/projects/gateway.html)
Other reference to the expansion after nine months:
http://www.transport2000.ca/malahat2007.htm 
http://deltan.ca/Transportation/Introduction.htm 
I think that the original comment about the Alex Fraser Bridge should be reinstated.
Rob_ (talk) 17:31, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Rob. I found another source (Vancouver Sun) and added that too. I think we can safely call it a fact that the bridge opened with four lanes. Kla’quot (talk | contribs) 06:31, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: It appears that large sections of this article have been rewritten and are now worded more like a public relations or marketing piece rather than an encyclopedia article.  
For example "new Port Mann Bridge will alleviate congestion" is an opinion.  Most experts and the overwhelming evidence of highway expansion dispute this statement.
"..improving the quality of life for residents.." also problematic
"... the SFPR alignment does not impact the Burns Bog Ecological Conservancy Area..."  is contested.  Some experts feel that the alignment will affect hydrology which will impact the Conservancy area indirectly.
Rob_ (talk) 01:00, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: May 2008

message: One of the recent IPs editors, , traces back to a gov.bc.ca office in Victoria. Sigh. Now it would be really, really nice if anyone who is unable to edit with a neutral point of view on this topic would consider refraining from making this article sound like a press release. Please review our Conflict of Interest policy. Thanks, Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 08:06, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small wonder 

message: "Gateway road and bridge improvements compliment other road and transit improvements planned or underway. These improvements contribute to providing an efficient transportation network. "
These sentences seem overly promotional and do not seem to add any thing that is encyclopedic content.  I propose deleting them.
"Vehicles idling in traffic cause a significant amount of pollution and have a negative impact on overall quality of life."
Are there any studies on the amount of idling that currently occurs on highways impacted by Gateway?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.216.170.120 (talk) 23:29, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the first two sentences along with some other fluff. This article is a mess. Thanks for coming by and helping to clean it up. Clayoquot (talk | contribs) 04:00, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promotional Language 

message: Do we really need to have not one, not two, but THREE photos showing protests about the program? That's disgustingly not NPOV.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.180.13.87 (talk) 05:52, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: I have reinstated information about resolutions passed by municipal and regional bodies in regards to this project.  I think that is important to have  information on the decisions of democratically elected governments in relation to this project.R_ (talk) 05:49, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Municipal Resolutions 

message: The criticism section mentions "the groups"  opposed to the project but does not name them.  I propose reinstating those names.
R_ (talk) 03:59, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Listing every single group that opposes the Gateway Program creates a huge list that would be considered POV towards the anti-Gateway groups. I propose for every group that you insert, you have to find one pro-Gateway group that is not connected to the government.  єmarsee  • Speak up! 04:32, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I do agree that we shouldn't have a huge list here - only groups of significance. But, I don't think that having to list an equal number of groups on both sides is a requirement to make an article NPOV.  If the reality is that there are moe groups on one side of an issue the article should reflect that fact.  If there was a only a list from one side that would be a POV problem.96.49.137.216 (talk) 20:34, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Groups 

message: Sources such as the various anti-gateway groups should not be included as they are not reliable sources for much of their claims. we need to find 3rd party sources for this info or remove the info all together. there has been no loack of reporting by reliable media over the issue so this shouldnt be difficult to do.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.48.244.173 (talk) 04:40, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  3rd party sources 

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