Talk:Eggs as food/Archive 1

message: FWIW, this is the first place I came to get some dietary information about eggs.  How much protein, cholesterol, etc., does an egg have?  I think that would be relevant to this article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.16.250.9 (talk • contribs) 09:56, 27 August 2004
:This is highly variable amongst species and even, to some extent, within one based on diet. --Belg4mit 14:15, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nutritional value 

message: Regarding the statement -- "In the USA chicken eggs are overwhelmingly white, because of the mistaken perception that these eggs are purer than light-brown eggs" I really think this is somewhat overstated. I don't know of any grocery stores that don't have brown-shelled eggs nowadays; even the bargain places like Save-A-Lot have them. - RedWordSmith 18:36, 3 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: What chemical colours the egg shells?  Surely for green and blue, it isn't copper or chrome?  Any thoughts on the colouring agent?--152.91.9.131 23:37, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Egg shell colours 

message: I added a section to discuss health issues associated with eggs - both nutrition and sanitaion....   --Blackcats 18:30, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Added new section

message: In addition, the egg industry launched its continuing "Incredible Edible Egg" campaign
I assume this is a US campaign, as I know of no such campaign in the UK. This should be clarified, as it is incorrect for (I assume) the vast majority of countries. --me_and 13:50, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Same for Australia, I believe this should be either changed so that it says the campaign exists only in America, or it should be deleted. Darkcraft 11:38, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  International bias 

message: On a cost/gram basis eggs are often the cheapest source of complete animal protein which is essential to health and well being.
I'm sure some vegans would disagree... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.175.112.117 (talk • contribs) 23:12, 8 August 2005
: As would I, although I'm not, alas, a vegan. --Mothperson cocoon 17:20, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Noted plant sources of complete protein. --Joehaer 16:22, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  animal protein essential to human health? 

message: I've just added an image of some "double-yolkers".  Not sure if there is a more technical definition (or how colloquial it is) but, now there's a picture, I think it should really be mentioned in the article.  Anyone know it by other names?  violet/riga (t) 11:53, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Interestingly: http://www.abc.net.au/science/k2/moments/s409538.htm violet/riga (t) 16:02, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Double-yolker" 

message: I have an argument with someone that sayes the food of that the chicken eat efects the color of the egg shell, and am saying the same thing as the article, that it depened on the chicken breed.
my question is... can the chicken food efects the color of the egg shell?
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.80.177.96 (talk • contribs) 17:25, 27 January 2006
:White shell eggs appearing in free range brown hens. Suggests sunlight or food(vegetation) may affect shell color.
This is a dead link.  However, your point is complete nonsense.  I have 4 hens that lay white eggs.  Their feather colors are black, brown, and buff (2).  They are all varieties of leghorn and so would be expected to lay white eggs.  If you look at the illustrations for the white egg layers sold by the best-known hatchery in the US, you will see that of the breeds they sell that produce production-quality white eggs, the majority are not white http://www.mcmurrayhatchery.com/category/white_egg_layers.html.
:Eggshell color. Also suggests food and sunlight may affect shell color.
They affect the depth of color in some circumstances, not the actual color.  An egg that is affected in this way will have the true color at one end (usually the fat end) and will gradate down to a color that is slightly paler on the other end.
:There are differences in cholestrol level between different colored eggs although the difference is minute. So I reworded the sentence to remove the "absolutely no difference" claim -- Dodo bird 17:01, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  egg shell color (2) 

message: This article has some alarming information about egg counterfeiting in China, along with information identifying them.  http://www.ispub.com/ostia/index.php?xmlFilePath=journals/ijto/vol2n1/eggs.xml#documentHeading-TheHuman-MadeEggs 
24.123.198.38 18:08, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, that is such a great source of information!  I definitely hope to incorporate the information into this article one day. 24.19.184.243 09:40, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Counterfeit Eggs 

message: I changed it to "Issues with mass production", copying the style in the Chicken article. And reworded most of the issues to remove reference to vegetarian/vegan philosphy. I also removed the POV tag. Hope it is acceptable now. --Dodo bird 06:48, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like it, except for one thing - why remove the vegetarian/vegan references? -Localzuk (talk) 12:53, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I lumped them in with the "animal welfare proponents". I don't mind seperating them(..proponents, including vegan...etc). But I object to the type of arguments that goes "vegans find the killing of hens unacceptable". Simply stating that the hens gets killed is good enough. --Dodo bird 15:43, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I think it's acceptable now but I'll let someone else remove the NPOV-section tag.  I now start off the section with a link to the article "Factory farming".  I then lump all the practices mentioned in the section into one paragraph. I say that animal activists object to said practices in the second paragraph.  I suppose it's a small change but it clearly separates out "what happens" with "what people think".   I'm also tempted to rename the section "Issues with mass production as raised by animal activists" but that's too long a section name for my taste. ;) 24.19.184.243 16:28, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Here's another thought.  Factory farming exists not because farmers/food processing corporations want to torture their chickens; it exists ultimately because it makes the most economical sense for the supply side.  If we can work this key point into the section (possibly by lifting some content from factory farming), that will sink any POV disputes once and for all.  The section already hints at that:  force molting is in order to increase egg production for example.  We just need to make sure we explain other described practices' economical values (yeah I guess it's obvious but explicit statements won't hurt). 24.19.184.243 04:47, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite of Ethical issues section 

message: Can the egg size tables be moved into the "Egg characteristic" section? And is the classification used in the U.S. only or is it a commonly used grading method? --Dodo bird 16:12, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chicken egg size 

message: Where if at all should we put the expression the big goose egg or just goose egg. its used sometimes during hockey broadcastes, an example is they would say something like "...and with that goal they broke the big goose egg"
That can go in the Egg disambiguation page. Snafflekid 19:55, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goose Egg