Talk:Norwegian Elkhound

message: The Norwegian Elkhound is not a "hound dog." This mistaken identity had to be changed - something Olav Wallo of Norway virtually dedicated the end of his life to, waging a lifetime campaign against the AKC for them to do the same.  It does not look like a hound dog, does not act like a hound dog, and does not hunt like a hound dog. The name "Elkhound" is a mistranslation from its original Norwegian name "Elghund." In Norwegian, "Elg" means "moose;" and "hund" means "dog." Valich 05:37, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In Europe, the animal most commonly hunted by the Norsk Elghund (alces alces) is called an elk, so "elk dog" is a correct translation to a European. The animal called a moose in the USA is a slightly different subspecies. Of course, an elk is a completely different animal in the USA. Vanhallaelk 21:21, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Sounds good to me. My current breed of choice is the Keeshond. I wonder how they managed to escape this 'problem.' Of course, people still misspell it Keeshound and pronounce it like hound.  Keesiewonder 02:13, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

text: The FCI does (group 5 is "Spitz and primitive types"), so presumably many of the FCI affiliated clubs also keep to this categorisation.  However, all the main English language clubs except the UKC have this breed in the hound group.  That includes Australia and New Zealand, even though they are FCI affiliated.  I've added the UKC to the table -- sannse (talk) 10:46, 10 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Grouping

message: If it is a Norwegian breed, wouldn't it have the name "Gråhund" rather than "Grähund" (,where the first word means "grey-hound/dog")?
:Because this is an English encyclopedia, the common English forms of alternative names are usually given.  I have no idea whether this is correct without doing some searches (e.g., look at FCI lists for alternative names, do web searches), but I suspect it's true that many more english speakers can produce the umlauted vowel rather than the other one, which might be the reason for it.  Elf | Talk 02:45, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In Norwegian it's called Norsk elghund grå, which translate Norwegian elkhound gray. The colour tag is due to the fact that there exists a Norwegian elkhound black as well. However, in our spoken language, we refer to these dogs as gray elkhound and black elkhound. Outside Norway though, this could cause some confusion. Tbjornstad 14:47, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

text: No, it is still officially called Norsk Elghund Grå in Norway, abbreviated to NEG. Visit the Norske Elghundklubbers Forbund website for the correct nomenclature. I have visited a number of shows in Norway in the last few years, and this is the name given in the catalogues and in Elghunden magazine, to which I subscribe as a member of a Norwegian elkhound club. I think, however, in general conversation Norsk Elghund would be taken to mean the greys.  Vanhallaelk 22:51, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: Re: Solid black elkhounds are rarer.
:Isn't the black Norwegian elkhound a separate breed? Ralphmerridew 02:31, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Only according to the FCI, near as I can tell, as noted in the Notes section of the breed table.  Elf | Talk 17:13, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, there is, and the two types are that different they have a standard of their own in the FCI system. The two breeds are likely equally old, but the black elkhound is more rare, smaller and have a more hash temper. Tbjornstad 14:40, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Just to be confusing, there is also a Swedish White Elkhound or Svensk Hvit Elghund, and a Swedish Elkhound or Jamthund. All different breeds. I've seen all four on my trips to Norway. I have the greys. Vanhallaelk 19:57, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Black Elkhounds

message: I was a bit surprised to read the average lifespan of this dog is only 12 years. My elkhound lived 17 years, and her mother lived for 19, the last five of which she was blind. (mine had hip problems for the last four or five years before suffering dementia... we unfortunatly had to put her down)
Anyway, are you sure this is correct?--Arkcana 21:10, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My father's elkhound lived to be 18, so I was also surprised.Dixon H. (talk) 22:25, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Lifespan

message: The Article on Norweigan Elkhounds states that they make good guard dogs.  This has not been my experience, nor have I seen it presented anywhere else.  Elkhounds are too friendly to make good guard dogs!
Joemmoby 16:18, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guard Dogs 

message: The FCI standard for the Norwegian Elkhound Grey is on the FCI website. I'm not sure how to edit the article! Vanhallaelk 20:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Hmmm. This gets messy/tricky, doesn't it?! Two options I can think of are 1) list both standards in the info box; see the infobox at the Dachshund article for an example; 2) have 2 separate articles. Personally, I initially prefer clearly mentioning both breeds in one article, clearly listing links to each of the FCI standards. Just my 2 cents ... Regards, Keesiewonder 20:42, 29 December 2006 (UTC)

text: *Okay ... Let's see what happens. The lack of detail, images and unique content is why I prefer keeping it in one article until it has enough to stand on its own. Keesiewonder 12:07, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

text: *Sounds like we've uncovered limitations with the dog infobox that may beg an enhancement to the box. I have run in to similar problems when trying to update links within the infobox for other breeds. I have never uploaded a photo to WP, so I'm hoping someone else is gearing up to do this. If no-one comes forth in about a week, I'll give it a shot. Otherwise, I defer to your fine efforts and reasoning. Regards, Keesiewonder 12:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FCI standard 

message: "It is known for its courage in tracking and hunting moose (or elk) and other large game, such as bears or wolves"
So they were forced to murder their own kind? Dogs and wolves are biologically the same animal. On top of that, they look almost exactly like a wild wolf so that only makes it worse. 12.17.177.164 (talk) 20:21, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wolf hunting 

message: hello, the ranking is wrong, the dogs are ranked 36th not 54th
They rank 54th in Stanley Coren's The Intelligence of Dogs 76.101.21.109 (talk) 03:28, 3 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  error in article