Talk:MuggleNet

message: Before I added the history section, most of the MNI section was obviously written by an irked user trying to glamorous the events of my departure. The main reason I left was because of general disintegration of staff relations (between just about everyone), rather than 'getting upset over galleons' (although indeed part of the annoyance was that staff members were taking an imaginary currency system far too seriously). Neither did I 'hack' into the site.
On a privacy note, I also don't like being mentioned by my full name, considering that it was an event that happened years ago.
Please let me change this to "The site's former webmaster and creator Jamie left after disputes with the staff." - which would be far more accurate.
This is supposed to be an encyclopaedia, so really any details on this are not relevant!—Preceding unsigned comment added by JimJamJammin (talk • contribs) 
:Feel free to do it yourself, remember WP:BOLDJohn Reaves 18:01, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccurate and sensitive information about leaving Mugglenet Interactive 

message: I recall reading one of the JKR interviews (possibly the emmerson one) where she recounts a story about how she posted on a website, but was immediately ridiculed by others for not knowing about the books. so it would not be true that she never posts. Sandpiper 22:50, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Recognition by JKR

message: This article boasts about many qualities and features that are most common in any Harry Potter site. This can also be viewed as a means of advertising its content. Since this does not comply with the Wiki rules, I edited them out.
Also, JKR's official site mentions it clearly that she doesn't post to such sites anymore. Topic closed. --Raj Dumbledore 15:25, 05 October 2005 (GMT+5.5)
:The article has been reverted but the AfD is still in place as I really feel that you have some sort of axe tto grind here. CambridgeBayWeather 12:32, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Could have fooled me. Jtmichcock 17:07, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well said Jtmichcock! (Jamandell (d69) 22:08, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  did you have a bad experience with Mugglenet or something? I can't believe you voted for deletion too, it's THE most famous Harry Potter Fan site, what if someone heard about Mugglenet from someone and searched it up on wiki and found nothing? quit being biased and anti-fansite. Zhanster 12:59, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useless and Common points edited 

message: It's really not appropriate to put things like the staff list in this form on wikipedia.  You are identifying people only by their first names or online nicknames. Besides, we're trying to keep the article to a reasonable length and that is outside the scope of this article.  Thanks.  Cmouse 07:08, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope.  Still not notable enough. Or at least that's my opinion. Cmouse 01:56, 31 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Mugglenet staff changes monthly, if not weekly.  It's insane to have an encyclopedia entry that has to be checked daily for accuracy.  If someone wants to know who the staff people are, they can visit the website.  Jtmichcock 02:02, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ok, Good idea. Zhanster 06:08, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I just created a staff list section just now, and I just found this here on the discussion page. I think though that we should keep the staff list; it gives recognition to those who created MuggleNet and the contributions they have made to that site. I think it would be dishonorable not to mention their names on wikipedia. Just my point of view. Of course, I understand the length we have to keep, so rather then list all the names, I simply gave the link to the staff profiles instead. CrispinOfOrion 04:28, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Staff List 

message: Is it necessary to mention Emersonspartz.net in the external links? If that's the case, than shouldn't we also mention geocites.com/emersonfans as well? The geocities site is wellknown too. Mamatha Challa 01:58, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I deleted the link to the site in question since it is not related to the MuggleNet website.  I note that there has been a proliferation of websites and fan pages related to the staff people of the website.  None of these sites pertains to MuggleNet and the prolifieration of these links detracts from the encyclopedic nature of the site.  Jtmichcock 03:25, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I was thinking. :) Mamatha Challa 04:55, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There's also the Andrew Sims fansite.  If this should be used, it should probably be on the MuggleCast section. (Although Ben Schoen have a website, it is run by him-it is his blog. (Jamandell (d69) 17:44, 26 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Please note on another portion of the Talk page the Emerson Spartz article was merged with this page.  So this is the appropriate article for a listing of links on him (but not an anyone else).  Also, given that this article has been nominated for deletion four times in the last six months, and the keep votes were overwhelming, any additional nomination would likely be regarded as vandalism and be treated accordingly.  Jtmichcock 15:14, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Here here, I'm fed up of those constant Deletion votes (Jamandell (d69) 14:04, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mentioning the Emerson Fansite? 

message: Following this AfD debate: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Emerson Spartz, content from Emerson Spartz was merged here. I did a little cleaning, but it will need more work. --bainer (talk) 04:30, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge from Emerson Spartz 

message: This user is constantly vandalising the article, I ask you to please stop as it IS vandalism, the article was perfectly acceptable before your constant edits. (Jamandell (d69) 13:33, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  69.168.46.55  

message: I'm not sure about this, but I do believe Emerson is Irish. Does anyone knows if this is true? If yes, we might need to add it to the article --Jort227 10:33, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is he Irish? 

message: Though I appreciate many of the edits in this section, I had to take away some info added because some of it was unneeded, like naming some of the forums of MNI. We don't need to mention each forum the site offers, just what they are used for. If the section becomes any bigger, it may be considered as an individual article and be deleted from the section. Just a warning. Also, be careful of the structuring of this section and sentence uses. There were alot of run-ons. :) 22:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The MNI Section 

message: I was wondering if a section should be added regarding the fact that there is no more MuggleNet and MuggleCast t-shirts, and if there should be an article about the book they wrote.--[[User:Yossi842| Yossi842 19:47, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: No More Merchandise

message: This whole article seems to be written in a tone that is more directed towards users of MuggleNet. Many of the "facts" in this article are hardly relevant, and it seems like the whole article is only of value to users of the website in question. Perhaps we should nominate the article for deletion again, or revise it's tone? P3net 23:45, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Second that. This whole comprehensive analysis on such a thing is meaningless.  Wished people would pay more attention to articles that really need work, such as the complexes and syndromes.  darynthe 11:27, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tone 

message: Now that their book has been selected as a NYT Editors' Choice, I'd certainly encourage frequent editors of this page to insert a section on it. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 03:20, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds fine. By "section" I just meant that it should be mentioned. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 16:31, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  MuggleNet's book 

message: I've changed this line:
:"J.K. Rowling denied permission to release the actual recording; however, Spartz has posted the transcript of the interview on Mugglenet."
The 'however' made it sound a bit iffy; as though posting the transcript was something not meant to be done. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Whamilton42 (talk • contribs) 5:19, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I thought that it meant that it couldn't be done, period, a blanket phrase.  Did she actually say "no audio at all"? Hbdragon88 00:53, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  hmm 

message: Ben and Emerson have recently been very actively touring the U.S. speaking and promoting their book. Should any extent of this be mentioned. I am planning on going- should I gather information about the format and subjects about which they talk about? --Thanks, Yossi842 02:04, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: MuggleNet on the Road

message: I removed certain sections that called into question the ethics of an individual involved with the website.  Please note that under WP:BLP any claim made about a living individual has to be sourced to a reliable outside source.  Claiming that there is a "controversy" and then citing to a webpage that makes no mention of any controversy is completely inappropriate.  67.149.103.119 22:06, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Except there is actually controversy. If you read the topic that was used as a source (taken from the "Emerson Spartz Appreciation Forums," there is a heated discussion about whether or not it's immoral to make a commercial site based entirely off of another person's intellectual property and milk it for every cent it's worth, especially when the webmaster has stated in multiple interviews that "he's no longer the HP fan he used to be," implying that he was running the site primarily for profit. Wikipedian06 08:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: BLP Violations

message: Do we REALLY need that long picture showing the home page of Mugglenet? It's really long, and serves no point in the article. Anakinjmt 18:41, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Home Page picture 

message: "On August 9, 2005, it launched a podcast, dubbed "MuggleCast", as well as its own line of clothing, toy wands, other merchandise, and a best-selling reference book on Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, the final book in the series."
Can we really call their book a reference book? I'd call it more of an analysis-prediction book. Reference seems to indicate the book is something other than what it really is. Anakinjmt 02:29, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference book? 

message: "I plan to use the significant amount of money I have earned through my e-business, MuggleNet.com, as investment capital, as both an entrepreneur and an investor." 
The quote is incorrect. I have never referred to MuggleNet as being an e-business. The quote is nowhere on the page listed as the source, which, incidentally, is NOT the Official Emerson Spartz Website. I also clarified an out of context quote about not being "quite the fan" I used to be.
-Emerson Spartz (email me at the account on MuggleNet if you need verification)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.74.109.86 (talk) 08:14, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm. Well, the IP definitely comes from Notre Dame. However, I hope you'll forgive me for being hesitant of assuming you are THE Emerson Spartz. Now, saying something on MuggleCast would definitely give you credit. If you are Emerson, or someone else from MuggleNet, I would suggest not making any more edits to MuggleNet related articles, so as not to risk breaking WP:NPOV. Anakinjmt (talk) 23:37, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's unfair to say that someone can't comment asking for fallacious information to be removed from Wikipedia. It's one thing to do it without commenting, but he is asking for a discussion. We're not here to be jerks. --LN3000 (talk) 08:24, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The quote is correct; the source isn't. THIS is Emerson Spartz's official website:  Given that it's hosted on Notre Dame's website, and under Mr. Spartz's directory, I have little doubt it's accurate and comes from Mr. Spartz himself. Therefore, I've restored the quote to the article. Wikipedian06 (talk) 22:36, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Incorrect Quote Removed

message: This is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not a forum for you to all argue on. 72.161.65.238 (talk) 08:27, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How rediculous 

message: The statement that WB issued a cease and desist order re:merchandise needs a verifiable source, otherwise it must be removed. 23skidoo (talk) 20:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cease and desist order

message: Wikipedia is not the place to list every single little detail about the incident. The way it is now is enough. We don't even need to list what works or what not. Mugglenet is down, with one page up at the moment, that's enough information for the article. --LN3000 (talk) 02:56, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hacked 

message: Several parts of the article, in particular the Podcast and MNI sections, read like advertisements. For example, passages like
MuggleCast has listeners all over the world. Listeners from any country can write in and everyone's responses are accepted on the show. Some countries have landlines that can be called to leave voicemails and anyone can call in for live shows over Skype.
It has lots of other activities and members as young as 7 or 8 are constantly posting in the MNI-ian threads. Other members, say, 20 or older, can join the "Old Fogeys" club, which is a teasing name for the club for elder members.
really serve little purpose but to promote the site.
That's just one issue, though; there's a lot of trivia that fails to meet the notability requirements for inclusion on Wikipedia. For example, is the laundry list of guest hosts really needed here? Information about every April Fool's joke? Details about a hacking whose effects only lasted for a few hours?
- Wikipedian06 (talk) 11:22, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've killed some of it.  We are here to provide an overview, after all, not a detailed history log of each and every action of the site (more pertinent now because it's been merged).  If we sweep out the April Fool's on the podcast, we should also do the same for the site as a whole.  Anyone feeling the BOLD to do that?  Also reassesed as Start due to being not vey complete at all. hbdragon88 (talk) 22:57, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advertising 

message: This information is not encyclopedic and has been removed. Daily updates about a site's current events can be found by visiting the site itself. It would make just as much sense to put "Today's Caption Contest photo is ____." JenWSU (talk) 16:33, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minister of Magic Elections 

message: Do you think we should put a new picture of the site header at the top of this article? Its out-of-date and is frankly quite boring. TheUnfortunate (talk) 16:43, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: New Picture

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message: As the creator of this site, his opinion and support of Rowling against transphobic accusations levied at her is fundamentally important.
It doesn't matter if he's no longer apart of the site.
The fact that he's supported Rowling is important and noteworthy. 
Trying to keep it out is just agenda based censorship and not neutral or in line with wikipedia's main role of providing Unbiased information. Hpdh4 00:12, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emerson Spartz support for Rowling 

message: Emerson Spartz support for Rowling ==
As the creator of this site, his opinion and support of Rowling against transphobic accusations levied at her is fundamentally important.
It doesn't matter if he's no longer apart of the site.
The fact that he's supported Rowling is important and noteworthy. 
Trying to keep it out is just agenda based censorship and not neutral or in line with wikipedia's main role of providing Unbiased information. Hpdh4 00:16, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emerson Spartz