Talk:Podcast/Archive 1

message: Does it make sense to have a list of podcasts here?  Is there precedent for doing it?  It seems that a link to a catalog of podcasts would make more sense here...  --idcmp 16:10, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Here
Just thought I'd mention it. CriminalSaint 00:35, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Matthew Good just bloglinked here

message: Rather than starting with something about the derivation
of the word, or a comparison to magazine subscriptions or
RSS readers or anything else.  I put one up and it was
lost in a rearrangement, and I've put it back.
If it's inaccurate please do fix it, but I'd urge us
to begin the article with a straightforward
definition, before diving into the metaphors and
comparisons and testimonials.  *8) --orbst 22:50, 26 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggest we start with a simple definition

message: I don't mean to be a stickler, but podcasting is not a "broadcast medium". A podcast, I suppose, might be
but it seems to me that podcasting is an activity. A medium is, well, you know, a medium, not an activity. 
Any suggestions? 
--Adamnorman 21:18, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The not-so simple definition

message: I was wondering if someone could help clarify the evolution of podcasting in terms of its origins in audio blogging and video blogging. Is there a difference between podcasting and audioblogging/videoblogging or are they basically the same? Is the difference simply the fact that audio/video bloggers a year or two ago were posting multimedia files without the enclosure tags in their RSS feeds, thus making it impossible to download the multimedia simply by subscribing to the feed? For example, in the fall of 2003 on my site http://www.andycarvin.com, I started multimedia blogging, incorporating video clips, photos and audio into my text blogs, but I don't know if this qualifies as podcasting because they were a mix of media types rather than solely audio files or video files; plus they lacked the enclosures in the RSS feeds. Just curious to see what others think. ---acarvin
: I see a lot of crossover. The enclosures are a key development, in my view, linked to the development of multimedia-aware aggregators. As has been noted above, folks have been posting personal multimedia files on the web for ages. But the 'casting' part adds the subscription/series element, at least IMHO.Pzarquon 17:51, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Podcasting vs. Audio blogging/Video blogging

message: I have to agree with kinrowan, it's a bona fide article from a UK National newspaper (The Guardian) dated February 2004. I have also talked to Ben Hammersley about this and I feel that he should be credited with originally coining the term: Podcasting.
The term "Audio blogging" appears to predate the term podcasting and identifies the same general concept. I'm going to do some more researching before modifying the article however.  ALKIVAR™ 02:24, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Questions on the Origin of the Term: Podcasting 

message: Somebody beat me to rolling back a just-added "directory" heading and a link to some podcast directory. This topic was discussed above, but here's a reminder to future link-adders: Wikipedia isn't a link farm. Authors' articles don't have links to bookstores' musicians' articles don't have links to every fan site; Tetris doesn't have a link to every web site with a clone (at least, as fast as I can keep erasing them, it doesn't); so please don't add podcasting sites or lists of podcasting sites. An encyclopedia tells people what podcasting is, how it works, how/why it developed, and such information, but doesn't point them to every podcast in the world. - DavidWBrooks 19:14, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I just took out a couple of google search external links - people can do their own searches if they want to find software/discussion/whatever. All those news stories need to be trimmed, too; incredibly redundant (and those kind of links quickly get outdated)- DavidWBrooks 15:20, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  More on external links 

message: Good grief, this article now has 20 external links to news articles at newspapers, Wired, etc. I am going to eliminate them all, unless anybody objects. They all say the same thing, add little information to this article, and half of them will be dead links in three months. We don't need any kind of external justification to do an article, and  Wikipedia is not a link farm - DavidWBrooks 22:42, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. I've moved it here instead!  :-D    —RaD Man (talk) 23:28, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  News links 

message: The same person keeps spamming their podcast411.com link over and over again.  Here are some Alexa rankings for comparison:
# ipodder.org - 25,897
# podcastalley.com - 58,991
# podcast411.com - 3,713,634
Night and day.  —RaD Man (talk) 23:20, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeated spamming by podcast411.com 

message: If folks are going to disagree about this article (which is a good thing; that's what wikipedia is all about - people with different ideas reaching consensus) then PLEASE take a moment to find out how wikipedia works. For example, there are no "official moderators" on wikipedia - if you don't understand that, that misunderstanding is more likely. Start with Main page and poke around a bit!
And may I suggest that everybody creates an account for themselves, so we can keep track of who is saying what and when. (You don't have to give any personal information if you don't want to, not even your name or e-mail). See Wikipedia:Why create an account. I speak from experience that a debate among anonymous people quickly gets confusing because it's not clear who is responding. - DavidWBrooks 19:42, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please, create an account  

message: You can sign your posts by typing  ~~~~  (four of those tilda thingies in a row) after it - that automatically puts down your name as a link to your page (if you want to create one) and the date/time, like this: DavidWBrooks 03:26, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  signing posts 

message: [Who is the "caster" in PodCasting]
With PodCasting, the casting term better connects with the fly fishing analogy, where you focus on an interesting spot, cast your line precisely there, hook what's available, and reel it back to you.  Because the acknowledged “father of podcasting”, Adam Currey, came from an MTV DJ job background, perhaps he felt that using the Web to deliver content directly to iPods was a new type of broadcast model.  This raises the interesting question, who is the “caster” in the world of PodCasting?  I contend that the casters are the listeners, not the website packagers of the audio file material!  
The iPod (MP3 player) owners are out on the banks of the Web in their waders casting about for spots from which they can reel in some good listening material.  Many sites are primarily streamers of audio material, but we can’t always be listening at the right times.  So, for those sites that also package their audio streams into podcasts, a downloaded S/W tool (ipodder.exe) allows us to build links to the spots we like. It automatically checks our list of podcast enabled sites at regular intervals, hooks all available new listening material (using RSS scripts), reels back what it finds & packs it away in our PC/Mac's hard drive MP3 freezer, and ultimately transfers it to our iPod/MP3 player picnic baskets.  Store, forward, archive and portable-ize (thru both space & time) our listening pleasure.  RRLedford 00:24, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is Aerobic Groove Podcast? 

message: (This is my first ever Wikipedia post. Please redirect me if this is not the proper forum for this topic).
Would this work on Podcasting be an appropriate place to discuss how podcasting might alter news and entertainment habits in the future? 
It seems that the user-centric model of users selecting media to play/read might also be combined with the interactivity of blogging, except the digital devices of the future may provide easy ways to create streaming audio/video in addition to text feedback. 
Consider this scenario: Users subscribe to the "PodNews Network" for either a set amount per month or year or they purchase news stories for maybe $.50 to $1 for a 3-5 minute piece that includes professionaly quality streaming audio/video, more detailed text and supporting documentation, and a mechanism for reaction by other users. The user can watch/listen/read the news piece then post their own comments, audio commentary, or even streaming video (assuming handheld devices in the future provide a cheap and easy way to do this). The user's reaction is then appended to the story and made available to other users who download the piece. The user community for the news piece could even rank commenters on the news, meaning the more insightful users/commenteers would soon gain a niche following (similar to today's bloggers Hugh Hewitt, Daily Kos, and Instapundit). 
Any thoughts? What would this mean for media consumers? For for-profit media outlets?
: Wikipedia articles should not contain speculation about things that might happen in the future. An encyclopedia article gives people context about the current situation, the history of that situation, and  the current situation in related areas, updated as circumstances change. What might happen in the future isn't really part of it. (There are, of course, a bazillion other places on the Web where speculation is encouraged - check out any podcasting forum!) --DavidWBrooks 13:19, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  How Podcasting might affect media consumption habits? 

message: Somebody just undid quite a chunk of editing by an anonymous editor because that editing removed all the wiki markup. I think that the anon cut-and-pasted the copy outside wikipedia, edited it, then cut-and-pasted the new version back inside wikipedia, losing all the markup in the process. So whoever you are, please do your editing within wikipedia! - DavidWBrooks 19:12, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note to anon editor 

message: People can do their own Google searches - we don't need to guess what they'll search for and program it into external links. --DavidWBrooks 15:03, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don't need to set up google searches in the links 

message: Orbst changed the first sentence to 
:"Podcasting" is the practice of making files (usually audio files) available online in a way that allows software to automatically detect new files (generally via RSS), and download them...
which I like better than the vague "broadcast medium", but I think podcasting isn't "usually" audio files, it is audio files.  And the rest of the article refers to nothing but audio podcasts, so I felt it was confusing.  I kept in the part about "other formats and other types of files, such as video, can also be podcasted.", so as the technology evolves, we might expand the definition, but I feel it's pretty safe to keep the definition to just audio files.
Other than that, I tried to reorganize the first couple of paragraphs, I felt they were pretty shaggy and didn't flow well.  
Anybody have ideas about fixing the "History" section?  I think it's also getting out of hand. --Screetchy cello 17:47, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)
:Good on the opening; certainly clearer.  I suspect someone'll have to face the "does video count?" issue eventually; the article used to be all audio (as I recall) reflecting the vast majority of current practice.  There's a "listen to or watch  them at leisure" in the intro still that's potentially a little muddling, but hey.  I have no idea about the history.  My own main concern about this article is that it should tell the ignorant reader quickly up front just what "podcasting" is; the first time I encountered the article it left me more confused than ever.  *8) --Orbst 01:11, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, me too.  That's how I got started as well! Oh well, I'll think on it. :) --Screetchy cello 05:44, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
I think the essense of Podcasting is "eliminating perceived latency in receiving large/binary files by pre-fetching them based on a channel-subscription model". So video would apply as easily as audio.
And, in researching some history from DaveWiner's site, I perceive the origins to be only video, because the files are so much larger. I think audio is the primary medium right now because it's easier to generate. BillSeitz 14:32, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening paragraphs 

message: Substituted at 21:55, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment