Talk:Saar Protectorate

message: Shouldn't this page be Saar (1947-1956)? Given that it became part of Germany on January 1, 1957.
Or maybe a better name is Saar (French protectorate) or Saarland (French protectorate), without using the years of existence. Chanheigeorge 01:30, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
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message: The statistics of the 1952 elections where pro reunification parties were barred would be a lot more meaningful if the percentage of voters who actually took part was given. Has anyone been able to dig them up?Stor stark7 18:35, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
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message: From the article:
The conflict between France and Germany over control of the Saarland led to the European flag being given 12 stars instead of the originally proposed 15.
How/why?  We need more of an explanation.  I don't understand how this one territory would be the difference between 12 and 15 stars.  Funnyhat 19:38, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  European flag 

message: What does "strongly ethnically German" mean? 
Strongly as compared to what? To other German states? Or to France? 
Anyways, the term should be clarified.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adlerauge24 (talk • contribs) 19:34, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's probably just someone's pov pushing. I just removed the unnecessary adjective. Volunteer Marek  20:17, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
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message: The current map is bordering on useless, it being virtually impossible to spot the region in question. Nick Cooper (talk) 18:58, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This article seriously needs a clear map showing the actual borders of the protectorate and its main cities in the time described. werldwayd (talk) 13:05, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I logged on here to say that.Czolgolz (talk) 17:38, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deficient map 

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message: Saarland only officially became a French protectorate with the promulgation of its constitution on December 15, 1947. Hammermann75 (talk) 04:32, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Was it a de facto protectorate before that? Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:40, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It was de facto separated in 1946 but it wasn't a protectorate. Hammermann75 (talk) 04:47, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

text: The article seems to say so:  On 16 February 1946, France disentangled the Saar from the Allied zones of occupation and established the separate Saar Protectorate... Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:42, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem was that Saarland was then just a French customs territory. Hammermann75 (talk) 04:44, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a citation from a reliable source that says that Saar was not a protectorate until the institution of its constitution?  It very much appears to me that it was a de facto protectorate from the time the French declared it as such.  They certainly behaved as if it were - governments generally don't throw people out of a mere "customs territory."  And in regard to that, do you have a citation from a reliable source which says that it was a customs territory and not a protectorate? Beyond My Ken (talk) 04:48, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: "A protectorate, in the context of international relations, is a state that is under protection by another state for defence against aggression and other violations of law", so for you was the Saarland a state (even de facto) in 1946? Hammermann75 (talk) 04:52, 7 May 2023 (UTC)

text: Other language versions, including German, say 1947. Hammermann75 (talk) 04:55, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, what are your citations from reliable sources to support your contentions? You're new, so you may not be aware that all information added to Wikipedia must be verifiable, and unsourced information may be removed at any time -- and may not be restored unless accompanied by a citation from a reliable source.  I suggest you read these policies, and the other onces which I have made you aware of on your talk page. I think one of the reasons you have been able to rack up 1,000 edits in a mere week is that you have not been citing sources, which takes time and effort. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:00, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: BTW, WP:Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Beyond My Ken (talk) 05:01, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: So do you have a source to prove it was a protectorate on February 16, 1946? You rely on the previous version; not as attached to Wikipedia as you are and the dogmatism and lack of judgment here makes Wikipedia contain false information..., and I don't want to argue as useless and costly here as in that situation, bye. Hammermann75 (talk) 05:24, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not "dogmatism" to insist that Wikipedia policies be followed. The WP:ONUS to change the article's WP:STATUSQUO is on you. Beyond My Ken (talk) 12:21, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
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