Talk:Glenworth Valley

message: Probably need to add to the Popran Valley page mention of the Kelly and Toomey families. Bruce Smith owned the property  which was the old Post Office from around 1947-1967. There are still family members around who could be contacted for information on details.
There are children of Bruce Smith still in Sydney Ad lsm 13:30, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
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message: Seeking advice from experienced page developers on the development and expansion of the content of this page. Ad lsm (talk) 12:24, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development of Popran Valley page 

message: We need to know the locations which are part of the valley.  Does it extend towards Calga and the Pacific Highway or north to Peats Ridge?  Is the area from Lower Mangrove north to Mangrove Creek included?  Google Books has no good results for Popran Valley.  We need to find a reliable source which defines the valley's boundaries. - Shiftchange (talk) 22:06, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: No consensus   (t · c) buidhe 05:47, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Glenworth Valley →  – There is a very rich European history connected to the name Popran. Furthermore, there is also a substantial amount of indigenous history in this area and it is highly probable that the connection to this history will be made by those searching for it through the "Popran" name rather than through "Glenworth. The link with "Popran National Park" is a natural connection- although please note that the Park occupies the higher ground above the Popran. In the historical record there is virtually no record of the Glenworth name but a very large amount on Popran. The Kelly family connection is a fascinating record of early convict life and nearly always is linked with "Popran" rather than "Glenworth". In addition there is a proven connection between Henry Kendall through the poet Philip J Holdsworth- and the connection occurs through the use of Popran viz: Holdsworth has a poem "In the Valley of the Popran". Furthermore there is a horse riding /camping organization where the Kelly's lived in the upper reaches of Glenworth Valley/Popran and I would suggest that this commercial operation, however meritorious, should not take precedence over the rich natural and historical heritage of the designation Popran.  
In the printed media (as an  example please note in The publication "The Ferry, The Branch and the Creek: Aspects of Hawkesbury History, Wisemans Ferry 1988" the designation Popran Creek is clearly the preferred local designation.  I would strongly defend the foregrounding of the term "Popran" over "Glenworth" and the renaming as requested of "Glenworth Valley" to "Popran Creek" has considerable merit. 
Alternatively, if Popran Creek cannot be used as a stand-alone Wiki page, may I suggest that we replace the two "Glenworth Valley" sites with one, and subsume the Glenworth Valley (suburb page) into the Glenworth Valley (Valley page)        Do not sign this. Ad lsm (talk) 07:59, 4 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 4 June 2020