Talk:Alliaria petiolata

message: Self-fertilization is really extreme inbreeding. Simply because a plant mates with itself does not imply that progeny must inherit the same genes. The gametes of an individual are not identical, so they can combine in novel ways even in self-fertilization, in this case tending to lead to reduced genetic diversity.
This abstract represents an example in sea anemones. I quote: "However, brooded young of heterozygous individuals were not identical to their parent. but showed 1:2:1 phenotypic segregation ratios consistent with reproduction by self-fertilization." Homozygous individuals would of course be identical in that trait to the parent, since only one particular allele can be inherited. However, heterozygous individuals, upon self-mating, produce the 1:2:1 ratio expected in simple Mendelian inheritance.
:This is from what appear to be lecture notes for a class from the University of Connecticut: . Paraphrased: in heterozygous self-fertilization, half the progeny are heterozygous and half are homozygous. 
:Indeed, Mendel himself used self-fertilization. It can be used to determine whether a line is true breeding or not.
The point is that self-fertilization does not necessarily result in identical offspring. Self-fertilization- is a sexual process, not an asexual one, and therefore the progeny are different.-♦♦♦Vlmastra♦♦♦ (talk) 02:59, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, here is the problem - not all plants or living things are same, so your lecture notes might be true for most life forms but not true in all instantacnes and  not in this case particularly. This is true for many of things you learn in school.  In the case of this particular plant the offspring  are identically in non out-breeding populations. This is what the sources say, I can even confirm this by looking at the plants of this species growing around my part of the world.  There are two distinct populations of this plant growing around here, each started from One single plant and all the resulting plants are the same size and the foliage is identically.  One population has plants that grow 4 feet tall with no scent to the thick foliage, the other population is 2.5 feet tall and has a strong scent of garlic and thin leaves.  These populations produce identical plants from seeds maintaining very homogeneous looking plants. Hardyplants (talk) 03:23, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am looking over some of the lit for this plant and it seems that plants are self pollinating before the flowers open and can out cross when the flowers are open, so you can have a wide mix of different plants produced.  I hate to grow more of it but I just might cross the two populations I have here and see what I get. The text could be correct to "say in some cases plants from self pollination are identical"  Encycopetey is correct that this is not always going to be the case, as one source says that self pollinated plants can show great genetic diversity. Hardyplants (talk) 03:57, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-fertilization does not result in identical offspring 

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message: The seed pods of this mustard are LONG - the reference gives 1.5 to 2 inches. I have roughly converted this to metric. --Dumarest (talk) 00:45, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seed pods 

message: If I remember correctly, the seed likes to remain dormant until scarified.  To speed sprouting let the seed sit for several days on moistened tissue in a closed container.  When the seed coat is soft, peel or scrape the coat off carefully.  Place the now white seed on wet tissue inside a clear container in the light.  Be careful not to bake it in hot sun.  Wait for the germination inhibitor to photodegrade.  Some seed will sprout soon, some later.  My Flatley (talk) 04:03, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sprouting seed 

message: Please improve the article by adding pictures of the low-growing non-flowering first-year form.-96.237.1.158 (talk) 20:45, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  More pictures 

message: I notice that the article is tagged with 'garlic' and has a table of 'Allium' topics, with types of onion and garlic.  Since this plant isn't in the onion family, shouldn't that be changed to the mustard family?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.233.142 (talk) 23:02, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Garlic - Allium - not garlic MUSTARD - Alliaria. 

message: Please add photos of the fruit seed-pods.-71.174.185.30 (talk) 13:56, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seed Pod fruit 

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message: The common name "skyut" is actually made-up. This is vandalism. Please remove as soon as possible if found again.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:547:A00:ADC4:5D85:5835:6568:B022 (talk) 19:28, 1 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Skyut" 

message: As of 7 March 2019, the article claims the plant was introduced because of its vitamin content. No date is given but I think "European settlers" probably arrived before vitamins were a concern.
IAmNitpicking (talk) 21:13, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vitamins before discovery? 

message: The section on the plant's spread in North America is written in a clearly non-neutral tone, with open criticism of the USDA's Technical Advisory Group and general editorializing in favor of biological control. While these statements may be accurate, they're presented in a clearly unencyclopedic manner. The whole section probably needs some reorganization, anyway - the second and fourth paragraphs state basically the same exact points. Jokullmusic 13:22, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV issues in "North America" section

message: I don't see why garlic mustard needs two articles. This information should be incorporated into the article here.
Ethan Bass (talk)  — Preceding undated comment added 05:20, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose: There is an extensive literature on garlic mustard invasion biology, far beyond what the separate article currently touches on, and it already goes into more detail than would be desirable in an article about the species itself. —Hyperik ⌜talk⌟ 14:13, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Closing given the absence of support. Klbrain (talk) 12:17, 5 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to merge from "Garlic mustard as an invasive species" 

message: I realize the toxicity statements about 100ppm being toxic to may invertebrates is directly from Cipollini et al 2006, but plenty of other places like Taft 2017 call it "traces of cyanide" and clearly the mechanism for introduction was cultivation by humans as an herb.  — Chris Capoccia 💬 13:52, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toxicity 

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