Talk:Freddie Mercury/Archive 1

message: The most commonly edited lines are the ones involving whether Freddie Mercury was gay or bisexual and whether he was Indian or Persian. There seem to be constant editing wars over these two points. I think that he could be either gay or bisexual, depending on who you ask. as for the Indian vs. Persian issue, he considered himself to be Persian . Both of his parents were Persian after all. I do think that both of these subjects should be brought up on the page though, since I think that they are an important part of his identity.
I personally wold consider him to have been bi- because he had relations with people of both sexs... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.141.169.129 (talk • contribs) . (this comment was removed by 132.181.52.105; deletion reverted by Hbackman 02:08, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gay versus bisexual 

message: Freddie's real name was actually "Farok". However, so many other sources incorrectly list it as "Farookh" and "Farrokh" that this error is hard to change. See Snday London Times
article in talk page for proof of this.
Was it Farookh Bulsara or Farrokh Bulsara?  I see a ton of hits on both spellings.  Which is it? — Frecklefoot | Talk 23:33, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Freddie's real name 

message: Can anyone tell me how to update this information?
I am also interested to find the justification for the claim that Freddie came out as bisexual in his final statement the day before his death. Curious because he wasn't in the closet as a bisexual as this had been the standard line given in the 70's. He was however in the closet as gay and I suspect that the person who wrote this is implying that he came out as gay in his statement. This is a transcript of Freddie's final statement:
"Following the enormous conjecture in the press over the last two weeks, I wish to confirm that I have been tested HIV positive and have AIDS. I felt it correct to keep this information private to date to protect the privacy of those around me. However, the time has come now for my friends and fans around the world to know the truth and I hope that everyone will join with my doctors and all those worldwide in the fight against this terrible disease. My privacy has always been very special to me and I am famous for my lack of interviews. Please understand this policy will continue."
So, where in that statement does he come out as gay, or even bisexual for that matter, as was claimed in the article?
Any help on getting this information updated?
Max says: I'm adding this interesting discussion because it got deleted in later version:
Why wikipedia doesn't mention that there's no single evidence besides his "friends", that he was gay? No single picture and no witness until he's dead? Interesting, huh?
Try visting a Gay Bar in Munich where there photos on the wall of F.M. and Barbara Valentine in that establishment.  IsarSteve 12:39, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This is fascinating but not very helpful for the article. If there are reputable sources that say he was gay, we say he was gay. If there aren't, we don't say anything. That's how Wikipedia works. Stevage 19:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: gay or bisexual?

message: Who the      (sorry) is interested in the private life of anybody? I've delete the part about that!
:Sorry, dude.  If you're a public figure, you kind of have to get used to that.  I restored it. — Frecklefoot | Talk 17:33, May 9, 2005 (UTC)
And I have deleted it!!
:Don't do that again, please.  Wikipedia provides relevant, notable and encyclopaedic information, and the information you removed qualifies as that.  You might not be interested in it, but in that case it's better just not to read it rather than delete it. Worldtraveller 13:59, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd just point out that it would be a very rare biography that didn't contain details of someone's personal relationships etc.  Queen fan sites are aimed at a different audience and contain different information.  I hope you'll keep on contributing to this and other subjects - you might consider signing up for an account as well, although it's not mandatory of course.  Worldtraveller 15:52, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  That's private!! 

message: I see an edit war starting on this article.  SAMAS keeps making changes that keep getting reverted (for good reason, they are poorly worded and remove a great deal of information).  If I were an admin, I'd revert his edits and protect the article until we get this resolved.  Instead, I'll just have to hope that we can discuss this like civilized wikipedians, here.  The points:
# SAMAS removed most of the first paragraph and summarized it.  He also included a number of typos.  Why?  What is wrong with the detailed information?
# SAMAS added "the Street Fighter character Eagle was reimagined as a tribute to Mercury for Capcom vs. SNK 2." but it was removed by Protohiro.
Personally, I see no justification for #1, but #2 seems a fine addition if it is indeed true.  If it isn't, it should be left out.
Let's discuss things here before we get into a fisticuff.  SAMAS, do you care to provide justification for your edits? — Frecklefoot | Talk 16:57, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)
I agree that SAMAS' first edits seem really pointless (clearly, because I revertec it).  The video game issue sounded fishy to me and not terribly notable.  But I am not an expert on Freddie Mercury protohiro 17:33, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit war heating up

message: Have people lost their minds here or what? Nobody is saying or even suggesting that Parsis are not of the Indian nationality - but they are certainly of Iranian ancestry. Exactly what is the problem here? Is there a misunderstanding of certain words? If so, please consult a dictionary and look up the words ancestry and descent and lineage. For heavens sake. SouthernComfort 11:18, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Iranian ancestry

message: "67.161.159.218", please could you use the "Show preview" button. Thank You. --Candyfloss 22:46, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Show preview" button

message: http://www.brianmay.com/brian/brianssb/brianssbaug04.html
Brian May, Thu 26 Aug 2004:
QUEEN IN IRAN - STOP THE PRESS !!! (REALLY!)
Amazing isn't it, how far "news" can travel, and amazing how no-one checks its source. The story about "Queen being the first official release in Iran" has actually hit news media all around the world. But it appears that the original story was wrong, and all the journalist channels just copied it without checking. How very crap of them. It really shows how little you can trust what you read in the papers. 
The truth ? The word I hear from EMI Arabia is that they are TRYING to clear a Queen compilation with the Iranian authorities, but so far have not succeeded. So this "First" is clearly a pirate - a bootleg. How funny. Must get one!! ha ha! 
Cheers
Bri --Candyfloss 22:46, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the following sources from the article: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/3593532.stm http://www.gmax.co.za/feel04/08/29-freddiemecury.html --Candyfloss 21:54, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Ethnic origins" section/sources

message: Some sections seem to suffer from POV issues. Deckiller 00:23, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Naturally. All articles about pop stars are like that. It's very hard to write objectively. You could help us out by identifying the sections and suggesting ways to improve them. Or introduce new information to the article which will even up the bias. My introduction is fairly biased, but I'm not sure what I would add to even it up. Stevage 22:42, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV? 

message: It would be much appreciated if people would stop adding links to talk pages. This is supposed to be an encyclopedia - please treat it like one. SouthernComfort 01:36, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Linking to talk pages within articles

message: -I disagree that Mercury never showed a trace of Asiatic features. If you look at him carefully, you can easily notice distinct features born by South Asian or Middle Eastern people such as dark eyes, the Parsi peaked nose and black Hair. He also had quite a tan if you put him with other white people. Also, if you ever carefully watch some of his stage show recordings, you will notice a faint streak of gaudiness typical of Bollywood movies. The last remanants of his Indian past, one could say. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 205.221.1.181 (talk • contribs) .
Gaudiness has nothing to do with being Indian or being exposed to Bollywood. He was a stage performer and they have to put on a show. People this ignorant shouldn't be allowed to post their opinions online. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 199.212.76.4 (talk • contribs) .
:Please refrain from personal attacks. Thanks. Hbackman 07:25, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Asiatic features

message: Has anyone noticed the trivia section contains "Freddie liked to take it up the arse."????  Isn't this pretty much vandalism??  I don't think this is meant as anything but ...
Polaris75 21:34, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Freddie liked to take it up the arse."???

message: Found this pic. Is it genuine? Shawnc 17:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Childhood picture 

message: Well funnily if your see  I.P 65.101.164.136 whp claims to be User:AfghanHistorian, you will find that he makes one edit calling Freddie an "Iranian" and then reverts back his own edit to the original version. Weird indeed.
  अमेय आर्यन DaBroodey  10:32, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiple personalities... 

message: Shouldn't we start by saying his real name, Farrokh Bulsara? Also, shouldn't this page be under "Farrokh Bulsara?"71.31.235.105 02:30, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: His real name is adequately explained (and bolded) in the first section under Early life, and the article title properly is his stage name as per the MOS. -- I@n ≡ talk 02:43, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, thanks Billvoltage 20:26, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Either it is fake, or his name is spelled as stated above... Birth Certificates are legal documents... Billvoltage 11:24, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

text: You think. Fine, but remember that WP only works with verifiable sources. -- I@n ≡ talk 09:07, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NAME?!?!?! 

message: I dont know if thats compleatly true. Freddie is odvesly more well known then Eric. I think if Eric would have died on any other day it would have gotten very little press (if not none)
:I have to agree with you, as how can one even compare KISS to Queen? Yes that is an opinion, but seriously, the charts show that Queen was more popular, and would, no doubt, have recieved more press-time... My thought on the subject Billvoltage 23:48, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Freddie died on the same day as KISS drummer and vocalist, Eric Carr, causing Eric's death to be somewhat overshadowed."

message: There is no article at "Persian," only a disambiguation page. If you need to use the word persion, please use a piped link such as "Persian people|Persian" or "Persian language|Persian" (and there are many other pages on Persian topics) so that a real article is reaches. Thanks. --Iggle 09:09, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Links to "Persian"

message: Kindly pay attention to the last changes made on this article by an anon ip editor, and take a consensus decision here. --Andy123(talk) 00:09, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Content dispute

message: User 201.102.107.8 has posted saying that Freddie was known as "The Voice", but there is no place saying where this information was obtained... I have never heard him called this (although I am quite young, being barely three months old when he died :( ...) So if anyone knows an official site that may be sourced for this, I think it would keep Wikipedia safe on the "crystal ball" perspective. Billvoltage 01:31, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "The Voice?"