Talk:CTIA (organization)

message: I have removed some material that is basically advertising, but this needs more work to make it neutral.  I'm particularly concerned about this diff, which seems to bias the article heavily in favor of the CTIA, notably replacing "industry consortium" with "non-profit organization" which to me gives a false impression of charity.  I'm not averse to just reverting all those changes but there's probably a better way to do it. --TexasDex ★ 19:34, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality

message: CTIA originally meant "Cellular telephone Industries Association" and although the CTIA website now uses "CTIA - The Wireless Association" , they make no mention of having anything to do with the Internet and there is ample evidence available  of their original name. The name of this encyclopedia article seems to be a well intentioned guess on the part of the original author. -- Rydra Wong (talk) 23:41, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: After receiving no feedback to my proposed correction of the name in the intervening four months I have moved the page and provided individual citations regarding the original name of the industry group. -- Rydra Wong (talk) 04:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Article needs to be renamed/moved; Title is incorrect

message: I have expanded and updated this article, removing the Improve Article tag in the process. I have modeled the structure of the article after other industry trade group articles, and welcome any feedback or suggestions for improvement. CTIAAmy (talk) 15:57, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Expanded article with new content

message: The section on net neutrality and regulation is awful. Looks like a copied paragraph from one of the booklets of the CTIA. Totally non encyclopedic. I am adding several templates to this article. Thanks --Camilo Sanchez (talk) 01:54, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Net Neutrality Section

message: A major contributor of this article is a person that works for the CTIA. I have added a COI template. Editor can be reached here --Camilo Sanchez (talk) 02:02, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: With all due respect I understand you might not want to be biased, but I believe it's important for other editors to also work in this article. Also, the article has a problem on the way information is given. I assume your good faith though. Thanks --Camilo Sanchez (talk) 06:36, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Conflict of Interest

message: This article seems to be consistently written in a biased manner by some associated with the CTIA to further their public relations. I recommend locking and cleaning up this article when convenient.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nwillard (talk • contribs) 07:01, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Lock this article

message: Looks like much of the text of this article is a copy from ctia's website, specifically, the text added by User:CTIAAmy. Some comparisons:
* Wikipedia article: "CTIA and the wireless industry are leaders in driving ever-growing choices and opportunities for all consumers, including persons with disabilities. Through AccessWireless.org, CTIA and its member companies collaborate with consumer organizations representing persons with disabilities and directly engage with consumers to assure continued progress in accessible wireless products and solutions."
* CTIA website: "CTIA-The Wireless Association® and the wireless industry have been leaders in driving an ever-growing range of choices and opportunities for all consumers, including persons with disabilities...Through AccessWireless.org, CTIA and its member companies continue to collaborate with consumer organizations representing persons with disabilities and directly engage with consumers to assure continued progress in accessible wireless products and solutions."
* Wikipedia article: "Mobile providers do not just deliver mobile wireless broadband to the premises; they deliver broadband to the person. CTIA and the wireless industry recognize the value consumers place on their mobile broadband services and applications, and as a result, advocate that the regulatory and legislative framework for broadband remain flexible and thoughtfully focused on supporting the continued growth and innovation made possible by the wireless Internet to serve both the nation’s and consumers’ needs."
* CTIA website: "Mobile providers do not just deliver broadband to the premise; they deliver broadband to the person.", "CTIA – The Wireless Association® and the wireless industry recognize the value consumers place on their mobile broadband services and applications. We have consistently advocated that the regulatory and legislative framework for broadband remain flexible and thoughtfully focused on supporting the continued growth and innovation made possible by the wireless Internet to serve both the nation’s and consumers’ needs."
Probably all needs to be removed per WP:CV.Forbes72 (talk) 04:15, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Legally, that may well be the case. However, my understanding of Wikipedia policy is that there needs to be a more explicit granting of rights, though. I think this policy seems pretty relevant. Going outside the scope of the copyright issue, it looks like the text has poor encyclopedic tone, and writing similar information from third-party sources would be best anyway. Forbes72 (talk) 03:13, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  I wholesale undid it to before CTIAAmy's edits and kept the modern infobox. This should serve as an acceptable and non-intrusive version until the issue is resolved. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 04:09, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Copy-paste

message: Hi there. Over the past few months I've been working on a proposed draft for this article to expand on information about the organization's history, leadership, advocacy efforts, and other activities. As a quick disclosure, I do have a financial conflict of interest as I'm here on behalf of CTIA as part of my work at Beutler Ink. Due to my COI, I won't edit the article myself and instead ask for any neutral editors to review my proposed changes and make them if they seem appropriate.
I've published the draft in its entirety at the following link: User:Inkian Jason/CTIA. Here you'll see:
: *  Added by this editor who is quite friendly with infoboxes and sees no reason not to update the infobox. This one has nicely added new parameters with no errors.  Fylbecatulous talk 00:09, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you so much for taking time to complete a very thorough review, and for spending time to implement proposed improvements to this article. You've been so helpful. I may return with an additional minor request at some point, related to the image of Meredith Attwell Baker or otherwise, but for now this edit request is complete. Thanks again for your help! Inkian Jason (talk) 15:19, 27 March 2017 (UTC)

text: You are an active editor who mentioned the importance of neutrality above. Is there a chance you'd be willing to review this edit request? Inkian Jason (talk) 19:18, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

text: The new text is quite good for a lobbyist, thanks! I would only change a few things. For example, calling regulation "barriers" since there are some people who think regulations might protect consumers from monopolies. Also we like to avoid terms like "the nation" since many reads are from a variety of nations, not just the USA. There are quite a few changes, however. Alas, I am volunteer not a paid editor, so only have limited time. Perhaps I can do it in stages, and if real life intervenes, someone else might help. W Nowicki (talk) 23:41, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for replying, and for complimenting my work. Regarding the word "barriers": I was just going with what sourcing said, but I'm open to your suggestion. I replaced "the nation" with "the United States". Yes, I would very much appreciate your help to implement this proposed draft as appropriate, and you are welcome to do so in stages. Thanks for being willing to review and help out! Inkian Jason (talk) 16:15, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

text:  Please just keep me updated on your progress and whether you plan to address the article in its entirety, or just specific sections, that way I can submit other requests and find additional reviewing editors as needed. Thank you! Inkian Jason (talk) 21:03, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request: proposed draft 

message: The current article's sourcing is far from ideal. Actually, most of the sources are CTIA links, so I've worked to minimize primary sourcing as much as possible. I've tried my best to make the article neutral and non-promotional, and hope someone can help by reviewing the draft and copying the provided markup over to the main space. I am happy to answer any questions and address any concerns. Inkian Jason (talk) 17:44, 30 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You are an active editor who mentioned the importance of neutrality above. Is there a chance you'd be willing to review this edit request? Inkian Jason (talk) 19:18, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

text: The new text is quite good for a lobbyist, thanks! I would only change a few things. For example, calling regulation "barriers" since there are some people who think regulations might protect consumers from monopolies. Also we like to avoid terms like "the nation" since many reads are from a variety of nations, not just the USA. There are quite a few changes, however. Alas, I am volunteer not a paid editor, so only have limited time. Perhaps I can do it in stages, and if real life intervenes, someone else might help. W Nowicki (talk) 23:41, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for replying, and for complimenting my work. Regarding the word "barriers": I was just going with what sourcing said, but I'm open to your suggestion. I replaced "the nation" with "the United States". Yes, I would very much appreciate your help to implement this proposed draft as appropriate, and you are welcome to do so in stages. Thanks for being willing to review and help out! Inkian Jason (talk) 16:15, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

text:  Please just keep me updated on your progress and whether you plan to address the article in its entirety, or just specific sections, that way I can submit other requests and find additional reviewing editors as needed. Thank you! Inkian Jason (talk) 21:03, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion 

message: An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect :CTIA-The Wireless Association® and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 April 15#CTIA-The Wireless Association® until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  BD2412 T 04:45, 15 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "CTIA-The Wireless Association®" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]