Talk:Architecture of the Song dynasty

message: I am glad to report that this article nominee for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of July 31, 2007, compares against the  six good article criteria:
:1. Well written?:  After some clarifying and re-ordering of the intro, I find that article fits the WP:MOS.
:2. Factually accurate?:  Accurate and well-sourced.
:3. Broad in coverage?:  Comprehensive on the subject of Song architecture.
:4. Neutral point of view?:  This is one of the better ones in terms of NPOV.
:5. Article stability?  Yes.
:6. Images?:  Images are extremely good.
If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to a GA review. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations. 
— VanTucky (talk) 15:58, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Successful [[Wikipedia:Good articles|good article]] nomination

message: In the Needham passage it's not obvious to me that what follows the direct quotation from Qiu continues to paraphrase him. If this is not actually the case, the introductory sentence should be reworded.
Further, if “–55” is an astronomical-style date, it would correspond to the year traditionally called 56 BC, not 55 BC. I don't know whether Needham's negative years accord with this convention, or just amount to an idiosyncratic way of writing “BC” as was apparently assumed. For my part, I have assumed that the “BC” and “AD” are editorial interpolations, and therefore put them in square brackets; if they actually appear in the passage it should be changed back to the original form.—Odysseus1479 (talk) 03:45, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Query re Needham under Bridges 

message: In order to avoid an edit war, I'm taking this to the talk page.
I went through the article and rearranged the images, and it was reverted by Balthazarduju. He changed the images again, and I reverted it and brought it here to avoid an edit war.
My argument for the arrangement I designed is simple: It's clean, effective, and contains enough images to adequately illustrate the subjects in question, without cluttering the text. 
I believe Balthazarduju's version, with images on the left and the right, forcing the text into a smaller gap in the center, is visually distracting. Creating alternating columns of images (one section left ruled, the next right ruled) makes the images pop, while allowing for the text to flow smoothly over a large area. I spend a lot of time doing image work (about 75%+ of my edits are file related), and I can appreciate the 'the more, the merrier' sentiment when it comes to images, but really, too many makes the whole article flow poorly, and it becomes a distraction. 
I'd like to get Balthazarduju's opinion on this, as well as that of anyone else watching the page. Sven Manguard Wha? 14:52, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Your arrangement, with the three pictures all aligned on the left, blocks the header "Temples" below, and creates an extremely uneven look on the article.  My old arrangement did not alter the format of the article.  Anyhow, I lessened the amount of pictures, and moved the rest into a mini-gallery for the Buddhist pagodas section, as I believe these pictures are all extremely valuable in terms of illustrating the pagodas.--Balthazarduju (talk) 18:57, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images revert/counter revert - outside opinions needed 

message: thumb|left|200px|version 1 
 
And version 3, (previous upload of version 2:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/archive/9/91/20111115001924%21%E5%BC%80%E5%B0%81%E9%93%81%E5%A1%94.jpg
Balthzaduju has a weird preference.He prefers a ‎ (480 × 640 pixels, file size: 88 KB, picture taken with a 1st generation cellphone over a  (2,250 × 3,000 pixels, file size: 2.39 MB,photograph--Gisling (talk) 23:46, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Balthazarduju weird preference low res picture 

message: I'm adding the picture back to the article because the pagoda is still described in the text. From a few minutes of Google search, it seems like the pagoda was built during Tang Dynasty and later renovated, during both Song and Jin dynasties, with the architecture from Song Dynasty surviving to this day. This source, used in Lingxiao Pagoda, seems ambiguous on the matter. If a source can be found definitely stating that the current building survives from Jin and not Song, please remove both the picture and the paragraph in the article. Thanks. wctaiwan (talk) 04:01, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lingxiao Pagoda 

message: Alright, I think this has gotten out of hand. There are now four editors rapidly making image changes. It needs to stop, because stability is a GA requirement, and I'd rather keep it as a GA. 
Can we please discuss any changes to images either in the above threads, or this one? Sven Manguard Wha? 04:14, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  All changes in November reverted - discussion on images 

message: It is a pity that there is no actual photograph of extant Song dynasty bridge in this article.  Can any one submit photograph of
the Bronze Goddess of Mercy bridge in Guangfu township of Suzhou city ? It is a genuine Song dynasty stone bridge. There is also a
Song dynasty bridge in Xitang. I remember I had taken photographs of Bronze Goddess of Mercy bridge, however I cannot locate my SD card --Gisling (talk) 07:28, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm in Beijing, and can get, within reason, just about anything you need in Beijing. I'm really not able to leave Beijing though, sorry. Sven Manguard Wha? 10:54, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Song dynasty bridge

message: zh version has a section on academy architecture, which is missing here. North Song dynasty had four famous academies. The Song Yang Academy at Henan Dengfeng city is now a World Heritage Site. Pity missing here--Gisling (talk) 08:31, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: 对不起， 我的汉语不好。 I can't read that article, I'd need someone who could read fluently, both the article and the sources, in order to get that information in. Said person would also have to want to spend a good deal of time working on the article. I'll keep it in mind, as it does need to be addressed if this is ever to be taken to FAC, however right now I don't have the resources to work on that. I suppose that it should be said that I still believe that this is a top quality article that paints a pretty complete picture, the most complete you'd be able to get before going into academic books. Sven Manguard Wha? 11:01, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
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