Talk:Ljubo Miloš

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http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/12962342&tab=holdings?loc=Chicago+IL  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brzica milos etc (talk • contribs) 14:08, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that  is behaving and editing exactly as . --/Mendaliv/2¢/Δ's/ 23:38, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Category:Executed Nazi concentration camp personnel is having 32 articles. In this articles it is no possible to find "eyewitness reports" of crimes. I will ask again if Ustaše crimes need to have special status on wikipedia ? If answer is Yes then "eyewitness reports" can be in article if answer is no then we will edit this article like articles of other WWII criminals. Maybe I am mistaking wikipedia is having editorial consensus about this ??
Similar things is with citations.
User which is writen more times words sadistic, bestial and similar words (only in this article this has been writen more times of all articles about Holocaust camps) more times of what is writen in all wikipedia articles need to read NPOV rules. --Rjecina (talk) 23:28, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eyewitness reports 

message: I see that there is a source, but instead of using Wikipedia:PEACOCK words like that, does the source offer anything specific about what he did?  There are allegations but those are unsourced and are so vague it's not useful.  I mean, he was head of the secret service (for what years?).  I assume there are some specific examples of what he did. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 18:52, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A "very sadistic and pathological commander" 

message: It would be helpful if someone had a specific page citation for Danon's book, The Smell of Human Flesh.  The fact that the writer didn't even spell his name right isn't exactly encouraging. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 19:06, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Smell of Human Flesh'' 

message: Article protected for one month, per this ANI thread. EyeSerenetalk 18:23, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
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message: pl's add the he interwiki:
he:ליובו מילוש  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Motyka (talk • contribs) 12:40, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  he interwiki 

message: Correct cite:
"Videći kako se svaki put prije nego legne u krevet prekrsti, sveo sam jedne večeri razgovor na religiju. Prikazao sam mu svu bezbožnost njegova djelovanja i zapitao ga zar se ne boji Božje kazne. A on mi odgovori: 'Nemojte mi ništa govoriti. Znam da ću za sve što sam počinio u paklu gorjeti. Ali ću gorjeti za Hrvatsku'!" 
from Vladko Maček: Memoari, Hrvatska seljačka stranka, Zagreb 1992 p 168--178.223.80.108 (talk) 09:08, 6 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Google Translate, the text above translates as:  Can you please expound on why this needs to be changed?  Bradv🍁 02:17, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The Google translation (which you tried to fix here) does not work. The proposed text change is more correct than the translation you offered. For example, the first sentence "Videći kako se svaki put prije nego legne u krevet prekrsti, sveo sam jedne večeri razgovor na religiju." can be translated as: "Seeing (him, Milos) making the sign of the cross every time before falling into bed, one evening (I , Macek) turned our discussion to the religion." Milos' reply does not include "and for what I will do". I hope you see now why the existing quote of the Macek's memoirs is not correct.--109.93.228.242 (talk) 06:41, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maček's Memoirs falsely cited 

message: I've noticed that the same user signed as  claims the same across many articles
On 6 April 1941, Axis forces invaded the Kingdom of Yugoslavia. Poorly equipped and poorly trained, the Royal Yugoslav Army was quickly defeated. Yugoslavia was then dismembered and the extreme Croat nationalist and fascist Ante Pavelić, who had been in exile in Benito Mussolini's Italy, was appointed Poglavnik (leader) of an Ustaše-led Croatian state – the Independent State of Croatia (often called the NDH, from the Croatian: Nezavisna Država Hrvatska). The NDH combined almost all of modern-day Croatia, all of modern-day Bosnia and Herzegovina and parts of modern-day Serbia into an "Italian-German quasi-protectorate".[2] 
Reference [2] is actually Tomasevich, Jozo (2001). War and Revolution in Yugoslavia, 1941–1945: Occupation and Collaboration. Stanford, California: Stanford University Press. ISBN 978-0-8047-3615-2. and, here, [2] pionts at page 272. The whole page 272 of this book has nothing to do with the section I've quoted above. The page 272 is all about the sovereign rights over the Yugoslav territory claimed by ISC (Independent State of Croatia). He repeats across many articles the same: "Poorly equipped and poorly trained, the Royal Yugoslav Army was quickly defeated." Here it is clealy visible that Royal Yugoslav Army was betrayed and sabotaged by Volksdeutsche minority in Yugoslavia, by Croats and Slovenes too.
This  very bad practice shall be stopped and all his/her past edits particular to the WWII in Yugoslavia scrutinized.--Bocin kolega (talk) 15:20, 9 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: You are incorrect. As I have pointed out elsewhere, the Yugoslav Army and Army Air Force were completely outclassed, and the fifth column actions did not have a significant effect on the outcome of the conflict, as it was decided on the southern front in the first few days. By the time the northern front started properly on 10 April, the whole situation was already extremely dire. The correct page range for this summary of the conflict is pp. 84–86 of Tomasevich 1975. The citation to Tomasevich 2001 is wrong, the geographical description should be referenced to the maps on pp. 62 & 236. Peacemaker67  (click to talk to me) 01:34, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The reply above makes no sense to me. I referred to four academically unquestionable references and Tomasevich (an amateur historian) in no way countered Petranovic, US Army military analysts and G. C. Paikert.--Bocin kolega (talk) 14:33, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Then you are having difficulty with comprehension. I am talking about the actual effect of the fifth column activity on the overall outcome. If you think Tomasevich is an amateur historian, you are not familiar with his work or the laudatory academic reviews of it. I suggest you do some research. I question your ability to interpret the reliable sources policy. Peacemaker67  (click to talk to me) 06:50, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Laughable academic reviews? Yes, there are some. And he is a laughable military analyst.--Bocin kolega (talk) 09:51, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I fail to see the point of continuing to engage with you. Peacemaker67  (click to talk to me) 09:53, 12 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whole paragraph not verified by reference added 

message: The whole paragraph, as written now
On 6 April 1941, Axis forces invaded Yugoslavia. Poorly equipped and poorly trained, the Royal Yugoslav Army was quickly defeated.[2] The country was then dismembered and the extreme Croat nationalist and fascist Ante Pavelić, who had been in exile in Benito Mussolini's Italy, was appointed Poglavnik (leader) of an Ustaše-led Croatian state – the Independent State of Croatia (often called the NDH, from the Croatian: Nezavisna Država Hrvatska). The NDH combined almost all of modern-day Croatia, all of modern-day Bosnia and Herzegovina and parts of modern-day Serbia into an "Italian-German quasi-protectorate".[3][4] NDH authorities, led by the Ustaše militia,[5] subsequently implemented genocidal policies against the Serb, Jewish and Romani population living within the borders of the new state.[6]
is marginal to this biography and already contained in Independent State of Croatia article.--Bocin kolega (talk) 13:12, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It is important context for Miloš' biography. Peacemaker67  (click to talk to me) 01:27, 27 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marginal and redundant 

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