Talk:Classic hits

message: The consensus on the classic rock page was that lists of artists within a genre are marginally useful at best and subject to considerable POV criticism. Accordingly I've removed the list of artists added by the most recent anon for that reason -- since Classic Hits is essentially a hybrid format anyway one can get a pretty good idea of what kind of music the format plays from related genres (which is why I originally wrote it into Classic Rock to begin with). Haikupoet 22:03, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Lists of Artists

message: I'm not sure why someone would think there's no meaningful difference. "Adult Hits" (I was under the impression that "Variety Hits" was the accepted term for the format) shares much of the same playlist, but also plays more contemporary material, and (this is most important) has no DJs. Classic Hits is limited in time to roughly the same period as Classic rock but with a wider selection of genres, and generally has DJs. I'd say there's a significant difference that boils down to the period of time covered by the playlist, if nothing else. Haikupoet 18:44, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth, the majority of the articles that link here are using the term "classic hits" as being synonymous with adult hits or Jack FM. And no, adult hits stations are not necessarily DJ-free; some are, true, but it's not a defining condition of the format. There are lots of adult hits stations that still have jocks. Bearcat 19:14, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Also, the inappropriately-capitalized form Classic Hits exists as a redirect to adult hits, not as a redirect to here. Bearcat 04:39, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Not any more, I'm happy to say.Vchimpanzee ·  talk · contributions · 18:22, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no similarity. Adult hits stations play a lot of classics but the ones I know about definitely lean more contemporary. I defy anyone to say heavy metal music and rap music can be found on a true classic hits station.Vchimpanzee ·  talk · contributions · 18:21, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Classic Hits vs. Adult Hits

message: The first result on a Google.com search for the phrase "Classic Hits" is a station in New Zealand. The top ten hits also include sites in the UK and Australia. As it stands, the article seems to completely ignore anywhere outside the USA, despite the fact that the classic hits format is now very popular in many countries. 86.132.138.205 16:41, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Globalize/USA tag 

message: I should have brought it up here before such a major change, but a lot of oldies stations have started calling themselves classic hits. It's not really a format change. The music mix is the same, but some of the oldest songs are gone and newer songs have been added. One could argue many of the stations are still oldies, but people here (in articles) and on other sites have identified them as classic hits. I discussed this on another site; some stations that call themselves "classic hits" are really classic rock but more adult than the hard-rocking stations. I don't like the term and feel the stations should be categorized as oldies, but they don't want to use the term.  My changes reflect the fact that the format can refer to either type.Vchimpanzee ·  talk · contributions · 18:26, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's really oldies 

message: I agree with the postings in the talk pages and have a few more thoughts:
1) The term "Classic Hits" have changed meanings over the past 20 years.  Classic Hits could represent stations that are softer Classic Rock, or stations that have evolved from Oldies to playing mostly late 70's and 80's music.  The more common use of the term now is the latter, with major stations like WCBS-FM New York, or KRTH Los Angeles in this format. BDS monitors (Billboard) publishes a panel of stations in this format as a reference.  In addition it's accepted in the radio industry that the term "Oldies" generally means songs from the 50's, 60's and early 70's, whereas Classic Hits is mostly 80's with some late 70's and a few early 90's.  A good example of this is KONO in San Antonio.  KONO-FM plays "Classic Hits" where KONO-AM is programmed as an traditional Oldies station.
2) This is huge mainstream format.  Nielsen called this the "format of the summer 2018."  The music from the 80's is still extremely strong and has even showed growth in the 25-54 demo.  Nielsen article.  So as far as the strength of this format in the United States, it performed better than Classic Rock as recently as the summer of 2018.  What's also surprising is that Millennials are listening to this format at levels that are actually increasing over the past several years.  Many factors can be attributed to the increase, but this is a new development for the format as this was not the case with oldies stations in the late 1980's and early 1990's. Millennials flip to Classic Hits  This format is big, I would argue that it should not be deleted, instead re-worked as it's own page.
3) Classic Hits and Adult Hits are different formats, with some overlap.  The biggest difference is Classic Hits stations are spinning their powers are many as 28 times a week with much tighter rotations than Adult Hits.  In addition 80's music represents the majority of the most played songs on  Classic Hits stations, where Adult Hits stations are now playing more 90's, 2000's and 2010's rock, rock/alternative and pop acts mixed in.  The focus on Adult Hits is variety, where the focus on Classic Hits is 80's.  Adult Hits stations can have up to 2000 songs in their library which is common, where Classic Hits play a much tighter list.  For example KRTH plays under 250 songs in their regular playlist according to BDS and Mediabase.
4) This format has songs and artists that are unique to the format. Madonna, George Michael, Michael Jackson, Prince and other superstars are not generally no longer played on AC/Hot AC stations.  AC has gone much more current intensive with new artists. These artists are now owned by the Classic Hits format and should be mentioned in this article. This should be a major portion of the article since this format owns these artists at this point in time.
I agree with the comment above at the whole article needs to be rewritten.  Not sure how to go about doing that.
UPDATE: I incorporated these thoughts and did a rewrite of the page with many sources and citations.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.61.184.2 (talk) 12:11, 11 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page needs a cleanup 

message: "I was the Program Director. (Jason Roberts)" This ought to be a red flag for POV and original research. Doug Ewell (talk) 18:04, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: I wonder if that portion of the article on the MOR artists from the 70's that this  format is not being needs to be deleted.  I don't think it makes sense to include what's NOT being played, you could make the list endless.  I think it does not fit the tone and style of the rest of the article.  I move to delete. Ncostides (talk) 17:53, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  70's artists not playing