Talk:Australian national football team

message: Hi, Aussie rules is the greatest sport in the world, but until at least some of the rest of the world realises that, it's pretty hard to claim that we have a team that represents Australia at Aussie rules!    Until then, it's just fantasy football, IMHO, YMMV, DNCWA, etc etc.  Regards, Ben Aveling 10:29, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Point. Poor use of the word "representative", but it is a national team. It's just that there's no-one out there for them to play... ～J.K. 01:56, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: AFL

message: It is quite clear that by the different people contributing to these debates, that there are many people out there getting confused when searching for Australian National football team. These discussions keep coming back, and only an idiot would think a diambiguation page is not needed. 
A disambiguation page would clear up all of these issues. 59.101.104.66 12:12, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I find it amusing that User:59.101.104.66 has made two edits, the one above, and the reversion of my edit on the article page, with the edit summary "rv - user chuq is totally disregarding the discussion (new user?)".  If this anon checked my user page he/she would see that I have been here for over 3 years and am an administrator with 13500+ edits.  Note that I am NOT saying that this gives me more authority or anything along those lines.  I'm saying that this anonymous user either is for some unknown reason making my edits look like that are in bad faith or are against previous discussion/guidelines - as to whether this in intentional or not, I don't know.  The anon editor is obviously unfamiliar with the work I went to in setting up Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Football in Australia) and its associated talk page in order to gain consensus as to names of these types of articles. -- Chuq (talk) 13:25, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks for setting up that page chuq. I used those links to read all the discussions before changing to a diambiguation page. It seems to me that there is quite a lot of people getting confused when they search for "Australian national football team". Rather than being sent to the wallabies, or to the "all-australian" page etc. they are sent to the soccer national team page, which is totally in the wrong direction. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and as such must show links to all the various football codes including rugby, league and aussie rules. More people are getting confused by this redirect than are being helped by linking it to the socceroos. As to the consensus, it seems to me from reading that a lot of soccer people do not wish to even consider other sports, and simply consider their chosen sport superior, and are simply unwilling for a compromise. 59.101.104.66 03:23, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

text: It is disgusting what they will do. The user:Tancred here has wished for my death, and they team up in conspiracy to have you banned. Noone calls the socceroos the national football team, but they, because of some type of unconditional hate, keep changing it. 144.132.216.253 05:51, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So which banned user are you again?  After all, there is no history of such comments from Tancred to 144.132.216.253.  Perhaps if you could use logic and reasoning in your arguments, instead of slandering other users.  -- Chuq (talk) 06:01, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

text: 144.132 makes a valid point of 'no--one' calling the socceroos the national football team. Not everyone knows that the AFLs team of the year is called "All-Australians" and would hence search for australian national football team. The personal attacks are going a bit too far, but i do believe that some mods do abuse their power sub-conciously. 61.69.171.27 11:24, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Firstly, Wikipedia doesn't have moderators.  Secondly, anyone can revert a page.  Therefore I can only assume that the comment about "mods abusing their power" is just throwing around random accusations without any sort of knowledge about Wikipedia, its processes, and conventions. -- Chuq (talk) 00:25, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Well for the record, I think that all pages should be disambiguations. 144.132.216.253 17:17, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said above, obviously no sort of knowledge about Wikipedia, its processes, and conventions.  Honestly, all the information is available for anyone to read.  It isn't limited to certain people.  Please go and read Wikipedia:Disambiguation. -- Chuq (talk) 00:25, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First line comrade, "Disambiguation in Wikipedia is the process of resolving conflicts in article titles that occur when a single term can be associated with more than one topic." For the record, I was wrongfully banned and they overturned. Those comments were completely unscrupulous Chuq, and from my first edit, I have been harassed by that user. 144.132.216.253 23:07, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More and more 

message: I know it's getting old. But I think Australian national football team should go to the disambiguation page (otherwise, what's the point in having it?). No information will be lost. People are still going to be able to read about whatever they want to read about. The United States and New Zealand national sides are called soccer teams. Australians don't use the term soccer any less than Americans and Kiwis do. In Australian schools it's soccer, on the (non SBS) news it's soccer. But I digress. This discussion isn't meant to be about this article's title. People who reach a disambiguation page might be interested to see that there's more than one "Australian national football team". If football takes us to a page explaining all the different codes, why does Australian national football team not do the same? Australia is the ultimate example of a country with more than one kind of 'football' (and hence, more than one kind of national football team), so as far as our national teams on wikipedia are concerned, we should follow the same spirit in which the football article was created. My two cents.--Jeff79 20:14, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Don't hate: Disambiguate!