Talk:Gloria in excelsis Deo

message: The mention of Mariah Carey near the end of this article seems highly ridiculous to me. There are innumerable settings and recordings of this text, in ancient and modern languages. Why bring attention to Mariah Carey in this context?Drkeithphd 02:49, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mariah Carey

message: This really is its proper name, as the Latin Gloria in excelsis Deo is derived from the Byzantine, not the other way around. The first line does read "the title and beginning of the Greater Doxology used in the Roman Catholic Mass and in the services of many other Christian churches." If we're going to say it's used in the services of many other Churches, it's only fair to call it by its proper name. We can then have subsections on the Western usage and various Eastern usages. The current article seems somewhat lopsided to me.InfernoXV 14:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure, because in the Western use, this name is far more common. Perhaps there could be an article named Greater Doxology (is it Great or Greater? Greater sounds more right to me, but I'm not sure), which would explain where it comes from, and include sections like "Use in the XXX Rite," and then for Roman Catholic (or perhaps simply Western Rite, since Anglicanism retains it, and possibly other Protestant branches) it provides a quick summary with a  link to here. Then this article could get rid of most of the first paragraph and a few other bits, and focus on the use of the Gloria in Latin-based liturgy, and musical compositions of it, which are pretty weakly presented here and on Gloria. You're right that given the first sentence here, it seems backwards, and it certainly is hardly fair in its presentation of use in the Eastern Rites. This would also be more similar to the distinction between the articles Nicene Creed and Credo. Rigadoun  (talk) 17:38, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea to have the separate articles for Gloria in excelsis Deo and Great Doxology. This avoids treading on the toes of those who've worked on the current article! The new article should be at Great Doxology - Velikoe Slavoslovie. InfernoXV 18:25, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to Great Doxology 

message: Would anyone be able to provide a reference to the original Greek text? Please.Muscovite99 (talk) 14:14, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The original text

message: On User talk:Invocante I posted the following:
:Andrew c has asked me to use your Talk page, not just edit summaries, to draw your attention to what seem to be copyright violations by you.  Apart from printed sources that indicate that ICEL strongly opposes any publication of its copyright draft texts for a revised English translation of the Roman Missal, there are indications also on the Internet. I have already drawn your attention to this site.  You could also look at this and this. And you could read Wikipedia:Copyright violations.  Please continue to contribute to Wikipedia, but without getting it into trouble.  Lima (talk) 18:33, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Who do you think you are? I [Invocante] do not accept that in the normal understanding of things I am violating the copyright of the ICEL. The very notion of copyright on translations of texts as ancient as the creed or the Gloria is dubious but in any case there is a more substantial point. The new translation when it comes out will affect millions of the Catholic laity and the attempt to hide behind copyright is simply disingenuous. The reason for this are well given by Father Zhulsdorf in his reply to the ICEL letter referred to by you [http://the-hermeneutic-of-continuity.blogspot.com/2007/04/letter-from-icel.html here Indeed if we take the example of the new translation Gloria the Church has already authorised a new musical stetting of those words  which is readily available from the Word Youth day website, see http://www.wyd2008.org/index.php/en/parishes_schools/wyd08_mass_setting. This availability on the WYD site tells us two things. One the text I provide was reliable and 2 the church is perfectly happy to have the text in the public domain. So on what basis do you laim the right to delete my entry? Lastly I might you arrogantly reedits my and everyone else's work but you make no effort to speak to me first. You seem to think you have a monopoly of wisdom about the catholic church.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Invocante (talk • contribs) 18:36, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Is Invocante's unsourced version really better than one that gives citations for its statements and provides the Greek text as requested above by another editor?  Lima (talk) 07:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The text that Invocante wants included is in fact included.  May we consider the matter closed?  Lima (talk) 14:02, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright violation? 

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message: It's spelt as Gloria in Excelsis Deo.  Why is excelsis capitalised when it's not so treated in the lede, or anywhere else in the text?  --  Jack of Oz [your turn] 17:04, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Changing the title, an idea that I support, requires intervention by an Administrator.  If you do not know how to request a page move - but I think you do - I will do it for you.  Esoglou (talk) 17:23, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh, I know how to do that.  I was just hoping that someone here has admin-like powers.  --  Jack of Oz [your turn] 18:24, 29 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Better? —Angr (talk) 08:37, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Much.  Thanks, Angr.  --  Jack of Oz [your turn] 09:26, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling of title

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message: The text of the (Latin) Missale Romanum is unaffected by changes to translations such as the English Roman Missal, the Italian Messale Romano, the French Missel romain, the Polish Mszał rzymski, the Esperanto Roma Meslibro, ...
:Even UK Tablet acknowledges its "Latin Vulgate" Latin Vulgate means Catholic Bible translation.2601:447:4101:5780:59D9:DE84:D555:4496 (talk) 15:47, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: "Latin Vulgate" does not mean "Catholic Bible translation" The Vulgate (see the article on it) "is a late-4th-century Latin translation of the Bible that became the Catholic Church's officially promulgated Latin version of the Bible during the 16th century". It has Et ne nos inducas in tentationem, not Et ne nos permittas cadere in tentationem (see text). Other Catholic Bible translations are the Douay-Rheims, the Knox,  the Jerusalem, the New Jerusalem, the New American, Bibles. Your attibution to the source you mention of "Latin Vulgate" is just as baseless as your falsification of the Revised Standard Version of Matthew 6, which Jonathunder has rightly reverted.  Bealtainemí (talk) 16:02, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Messale Romano'' 

message: The name of the song appears in film "All quite on the western front" 1979 version 2601:600:8D81:B570:C824:7217:9D4E:524C (talk) 08:54, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference In media  

message: Wouldn't "qui tollis peccáta mundi" be who takes away the sins of the world, not you take away the sins of the world?
-- Rogermw (talk) 23:00, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  English translation of Latin text