Talk:Battle of Spicheren

message: This article, whose sources are rather unclear--why is an American civil war book used as sole source here?--contradicts specialist books, like that of Michael Howard (historian), The Franco-Prussian War, in a number of ways:
[The reason for the mention of the Am. Civil War book is that the same author G.F.R. Henderson, a British officer and military historian, wrote another book entitled "The Battle of Spicheren: a Tactical Study" which is available in paperback at Barnes and Noble and Amazon and for Nook and Kindle, which are a lot cheaper.  This book was advertised on the title page of the Stonewall Jackson book.] (199.127.176.208 (talk) 17:43, 19 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This is how I read it also.  Von Alvensleben , as senior officer, took overall command. I changed the wording of this slightly.  The corresponding article on wikipedia.de says "übernahm der Befehlshaber des III. Armee-Korps, von Alvensleben das Kommando über die Schlacht". I also believe Kameke wasn't mentioned previously in the article. Peter Flass (talk) 11:50, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a book by a British author on the Internet Archive.  What I Saw of the War at the Battles of Speichern, Gorze, & Gravelotte https://archive.org/details/whatisawwaratba01winngoog Peter Flass (talk) 11:50, 18 September 2014 (UTC)

text: I confess that I put the material here from the main F-P War page, since the battle descriptions were too long and too detailed for that page. The purpose was to save the material when those sections were severely pruned. I'm not committed to any of the material here from a scholarly point of view and working on these pages is a long-term objective, so if you prefer to remove the additions or alter them, I'll defer to your judgement. Are the differences between Waw and How matters of description or analysis? RegardsKeith-264 (talk) 16:08, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not intending to edit anything now because of the accuracy problems cited by FuFoFuFed above. That differency was the reason why this article had been questioned about factual accuracy. In sum, it led to confusion about the results of Francois's attack on the Rotherberg, Alvensleben's attack on the Forbach Berg as well as how Frossard was forced to retreat (a barely developed threat by Glumer or attacks by Alvensleben?) and about the importance of the Rotherberg position.Ti2008 (talk) 16:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: List the versions.Keith-264 (talk) 16:49, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accuracy 

message: As the accuracy of the article is disputed, let's collect accessible sources:
* Pictures of the battle (in french)
* Description of the battle, maps and pictures (in german)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Micge (talk • contribs) 16:26, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collection of potential sources 

message: I moved material here from the F-P War page so that on that page the narrative of each battle could be cut to about a couple of paragraphs. I shoehorned the material in here so it needs copy editing along with the other battle pages where I've done the same thing.Keith-264 (talk) 09:54, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes