Talk:3rd Battalion, 3rd Marines

message: Please remove this article from GA status for the time being until the two sections with the expand tags can be updated.  Really can't give it a serious look when the article has two big holes in it.  It is well on its way but it is still too soon.--Looper5920 23:12, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In case you haven't figured it out, I'm currently in this battalion.  I'm trying to get my command to help me expand the article, especially the post-Vietnam section, but need to get at least GA status before I can talk to them. Palm_Dogg 04:33, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA status 

message: I think the "Americas Battalion section and related content needs to be reworked and consolidated. 
More specifically: I don't know why the "General Charles Krulak, the 31st Commandant of the Marine Corps served as Battalion Commander from 1983–1985 and is credited with giving 3/3 the nickname "America's Battalion" in the notable 3/3 section isn't in the "Americas Battalion section. I'd also like to suggest that certain traditions be treated as traditions as opposed to credible facts without some sort of independent verification and I don't think a marine museum employee relating a conversation with a General at some previous time is exactly research grade work. Perhaps the material could be proffered as "a possible source of the name".
--Nogburt (talk) 12:47, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Americas Battalion" Stuff Needs Reworking

message: This is on GA hold for 7 days for these reasons:
1) lead does not summarize article, it's more of a brief history that also jumps from WWII to modern era, then back to other things. Make it a summary of the key points of the article. Remove "has" from the first sentence, 2nd para. The one MOH is a detail, not a summary
2) footnotes are should show more info. See Scouting for good ref fmt, suggest cite fmt for refs.
3)need fn on first para of WWII section
4)the 4 items in refs are not in same format
5) why is official website not a ref?
6) Avoid including galleries in articles, as per Wikipedia:Galleries. Common solutions to this problem include moving the gallery to a separate page, like Gallery of 3rd Battalion 3rd Marines.
7)
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Rlevse (talk • contribs) 22:32, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've completed reformatting the citations, but ran across a few possible discrepancies — which I've listed in the section below.  Also, the citations were to websites and I didn't go back and add original access dates. (Palm Dogg, are you game to do this?) — ERcheck (talk) 13:39, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done. — ERcheck (talk) 11:53, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA hold 

message: they're back in Anbar. Shouldn't this be added to the current history?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.174.138.15 (talk) 01:24, August 25, 2007 (UTC) 
I needed to wait for an official Marine News article so it wouldn't be OR. Palm_Dogg 01:13, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  current deployment 

message: Dear fellow contributors
MOSNUM no longer encourages date autoformatting, having evolved over the past year or so from the mandatory to the optional after much discussion there and elsewhere of the disadvantages of the system. Related to this, MOSNUM prescribes rules for the raw formatting, irrespective of whether a date is autoformatted or not). MOSLINK and CONTEXT are consistent with this. 
There are at least six disadvantages in using date-autoformatting, which I've capped here:
Removal has generally been met with positive responses by editors. Does anyone object if I remove it from the main text in a few days on a trial basis? The original input formatting would be seen by all WPians, not just the huge number of visitors; it would be plain, unobtrusive text, which would give greater prominence to the high-value links. 
I note that there's inconsistency in the formatting, which would be cleaned up at the same time. Tony (talk) 08:57, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to remove date-autoformatting 

message: *1. Can someone double check the recent changes to the 10 deadlinks now fully contain the relevant information on the sources, ideally.
*2. The images have no alternative text, see WP:ALT. It is standard that FA articles have alt text on images now.
:*Added alternative text. Palm_Dogg (talk) 17:31, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Much better. Still the streamers to do. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 19:21, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Streamers done! Palm_Dogg (talk) 19:48, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Regards, SunCreator (talk) 19:55, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

text: *Negative, that was from a press release by the I Marine Expeditionary Force on what units would be participating in the Afghan War for the year 2010.  Yes it is deploying (redeploying is when we come home). Palm_Dogg (talk) 17:31, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I see that had now been removed.  Regards, SunCreator (talk) 19:21, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

text: *There is only one other FA military unit article I found, Maryland and Virginia Rifle Regiment, which wasn't much help.  The standard military unit article is organization, history and awards.  However, I've removed the history category and just moved everything to a lead section.  Palm_Dogg (talk) 02:39, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Quite an improvement.  Regards, SunCreator (talk) 19:21, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

text: *Took a whack at it.  Does that work? Palm_Dogg (talk) 05:08, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Regards, SunCreator (talk) 19:21, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

text: *Comment Made major cuts per WP:Recentism.  The history section is currently 3,988 words. 2,160 of them deal with 1942-1969 and 1,820 of them deal with 1969-2009. Palm_Dogg (talk) 17:54, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly greatly improved. Await to read opinion of others. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 19:21, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  TFA request 

message: Gentlemen:
Although it was long ago, the summary of the 3rd Marines in 1956 is incorrrect.  You say we were "alerted' for the 1956 Suez Crisis.  Since I was in the 3rd Battalion, 3rd Marines and Lt. Colonel White's radio Operator, I can remember, with many of my mates being hurriedly rushed aboard the USS Telefair (an APA) in late October 1856 and leaving in convoy with an AKA and an LST. We steamed from Yokuska Japan the entrance of the Red Sea before holding station there. We stayed  on station in Indian ocean for about a month and slowly steamed back to Japan, arriving back in late January, 1957.  We wer designated as "BLT 3/3" or Battalion Landing Team 3rd Battalion, 3rd Marines. In those days, expeditionary Marine Forces, with supporting tanks and artillary were designated as "BLT's".  
Your data is incorrect--I hardly think that spending 3 mos afloat awaiting orders to go ashore constitutes an "alert" as described in your coverage
James S. Underwood
Sgt  USMC
1955-1959
71.251.88.146 (talk) 22:01, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sgt Underwood.  The reference cited is the official history of the 3rd Marines Regiment, which says, "During the Suez crisis in late 1956, BLT 3/3 was alerted [italics mine] for possible employment in the Suez Canal area, but it only cruised in the Southeast Asian waters, "showing the flag" in Borneo's Brunei Bay, Bombay, Karachi, and Singapore, and then returned to Japan."  However, I have attempted to reword it to conform with your personal observations as much as possible. Palm_Dogg (talk) 21:29, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  3rd Battalion,3rd Marines Deployed for 1956 Suez Crisis! 

message: Ign'r'nt question: Why, when discussing individuals, is "marine" often capitalized, but "sailor" and "corpsman" (for example) typically are not?  It seems very inconsistent.
--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 22:26, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Check out Marines: must it always be capitalized? Palm_Dogg (talk) 23:50, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization 

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