Talk:Martha Argerich

message: Former entry Robert Chen points to a Taiwanese-born musician (Chén Mùróng), who is not the same person as the Shanghai-born Chinese-Swiss conductor Liang-Sheng Chen (born 1933), as is cited in the source provided. Changes were made following cross-referencing. 90.244.201.211 (talk) 23:26, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that this definitely needs to be fixed: I would suggest simply removing the wiki link as there is no English entry for Liang-Sheng Chen yet unfortunately. E-Ping Rau (talk) 10:40, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  Link removed. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:57, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Husbands? 

message: Ever since reading this article, I still haven't fully understood:
# why (or in what ways) Martha Argerich's playing of the first etude (Op. 10 No. 1) was characterized as "daring"; and
# why another pianist (I think it was Rubenstein) was said to have refused to play this etude on the concert stage.
Any explanations or clarifications for these? --- Tito Pao 21:46, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chopin Etude in C Major, Op. 10 No. 1 

message: The last name Argerich is of catalan origin.
Navaniglia 16:42, 5  November 2006 (UTC)
Needs a more recent photo if possible. Xiecfox 17:33, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no question whatsoever that the surname Argerich is a Spanish surname from Catalonia, and an old and well-known one in Argentina, as in Cosme Argerich.
Spaniards always say everyone is from some part of Spain or of Spanish ancestry. Very active in giving unsourced, unverifiable claims are catalonians, who specially seem to enjoy claiming Catalan ancestries, from Walt Disney to Argerich. Whatever... --Karljoos (talk) 19:52, 22 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Sorry, but you can't fool me. I can speak enough Spanish to understand that Argerich is the 11362nd most common surname in Spain. Only 260 Spaniards have Argerich as surname. Based on info provided on the same website you mentioned, there're in Spain 1.381 Wilsons and it's the 3076th most common surname in Spain... someone using your same logic could say that Wilson is a Spanish surname. The origin of Argerich's surname is irrelevant here. It's relevant for an article about the surname "Argerich". --Karljoos (talk) 19:09, 25 August 2009 (UTC)

text: I'm just using your logic and your reference (the website you gave as reference of Argerich being a Catalonian/Spanish surname). And please, sign your comments.--Karljoos (talk) 04:45, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is always a Catalan claiming that a celebrity is of Catalan origin. I have heard these claims about Walt Disney, Columbus... The reality is that there are no serious sources tracking back Martha Argerich back to Catalonia. There has been unsorpported edits in this respect that have not been removed yet.I know that in Spain there are some issues between catalans and the rest of the spaniards, but please don't bring your home fights to WP.Karljoos (talk) 18:39, 30 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Argerich 

message: As it stands, the article says "Argerich has married three times. [Husbands and children listed.]  One of Argerich's closest friends is the Brazilian pianist Nelson Freire, with whom she frequently appears in duo-piano recitals."
If this appeared in a British newspaper, an educated reader would surmise that he was intended to infer a relationship of a close kind between Argerich and Freire.  Is that the intention?  If it is, can the assertion be sourced?  If not, can the Feire sentence be disconnected from the paragraph about husbands and offspring?
David Colver 19:43, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, that wasn't the intention. For the avoidance of doubt, I moved the sentence to a separate paragraph. MUSIKVEREIN 18:16, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Freire

message: I thought that it was important that a link be added to provide users with an actual video of Argerich playing. It features Liszt's first piano concerto, in E-flat. ~~MusicalConnoisseur~~  Got Classical? 21:36, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, well, the video has been removed, anyway. Does anyone else have good-quality videos of Ms. Argerich? ~~MusicalConnoisseur~~  Got Classical? 21:26, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Link 

message: It's my understanding Martha Argerich is or was prohibited from performing in the United States due to her having performed in a nation or nations of which the United States federal government either did not approve or presently does not approve.  I further recall her Wikipedia article once contained details of this performance prohibition.  No such information appears here now.
In the event, is (or was) there a prohibition on Argerich performing in the United States?  If so doesn't the absence of a paragraph describing that situation fly in the face of accuracy, fairness and thoroughness?  I am not conversant with the whys and wherefores of such policy decisions as emanate from within the Beltway, else I'd submit a paragraph myself (assuming my recollections are valid).
Thank you for either confirming or disproving the artistic-censorship scenario to which I've alluded.
MisterCat (talk) 03:52, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There is absolutely no evidence for your assertion.THD3 (talk) 09:24, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Performance prohibition? 

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replies: text: I'm not sure if it's due to the URL tool, but it seems that nearly all references have an error in the code that makes none of them show up. I have no idea how to fix it. Pacamah (talk) 13:08, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind, seems to be either a site-wide problem or something going on with my computer. Whoops lol Pacamah (talk) 13:13, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified (January 2018) 

message: Hi, I just flagged a dead link to "Excerpts from a Rare Interview with Argerich".
There is a version behind a scribd paywall at
https://www.scribd.com/document/80789519/Argerich-Interview-With-Dean-Elder
I don't know how to handle this, maybe someone else can pick up the ball? Thanks. ---NoApostropheInIts (talk) 21:35, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replacement for dead link? 

message: What is this in reference to? It seems randomly placed. Glissando1234567890 (talk) 18:54, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems to be a reference to this album: . I don't see what's special about that album or why it's worth singling out here. It's also a non-sequitur, having nothing to do with the text that comes before it. I'd say delete it. TJRC (talk) 21:10, 16 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: "One notable compilation pairs.."

message: Someone removed my correction to the introduction. Argerich holds dual Argentine and Swiss citizenship and accordingly I described her as "Argentine/Swiss".
It is well known that Argerich holds Swiss citizenship and there are references on several websites (e.g. https://www.swissinfo.ch/eng/culture/48th-solothurn-film-festival_examining-a-martha-daughter-relationship/34795316 ) including a website that is maintained by an agency of the Swiss government which states that she holds a Swiss passport: https://www.eda.admin.ch/countries/japan/en/home/news/news.html/content/countries/japan/en/meta/news/2019/6/argerich_ito
I don't have a printed source but Wikipedia does not in general require a printed source for every person's citizenship.
I have restored the description of her citizenship as "Argentine/Swiss". Longitude2 (talk) 08:27, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: i removed the dual citizenship because it's misleading about argerich nationality, she wasn't raised in switzerland nor learned to play the piano there, she's by all accounts an argentine musician and should be addressed as such, her dual citizenship could be referred somewhere else  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.127.69.36 (talk) 16:22, 10 August 2020 (UTC)

text: Nationality of a person means "the status of belonging to a particular nation, whether by birth or naturalization." https://www.dictionary.com/browse/naturalization . Argerich is Swiss by choice. Acquiring Swiss citizenship is not a simple or automatic process, by the way. Longitude2 (talk) 08:14, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

text: According to Wikipedia's Manual of Style, your statement is not correct. MisterCSharp (talk) 12:48, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

text: You seem to be conflating nationality and ethnicity.  Open paragraph refers to nationality.  Ethnicity is placed within the article.MisterCSharp (talk) 12:14, 12 August 2020 (UTC)

text: Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with Wikipedia's Manual of Style before you make blanket statements of how a page "should" be written.MisterCSharp (talk) 12:50, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

text: i changed the nationality again even after all the intents of vandalizing this so calle "editor" is trying to attempt at the page, we should strive for a style that ensure clear information and avoid the kind of data that can misguide the reader, argerich is by all means an argentine pianist and should be referred as such, her later acquisition of swiss nationality should be addressed later in the article  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.127.69.36 (talk) 11:01, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

text: changed it once again  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.127.69.36 (talk) 05:43, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

text: changed it again  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.127.69.36 (talk) 07:39, 17 August 2020 (UTC)

text: changed it again  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.127.69.36 (talk) 22:55, 19 August 2020 (UTC)

text: Agreed. Hyphen is more appropriate here. I have made the change.MisterCSharp (talk) 16:38, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citizenship 

message: The discography section consists of one disc. Until it is expanded, there is no point in leaving it there. Glissando1234567890 (talk) 12:07, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discography