Talk:Hoegaarden (beer)

message: With the entry "Currently following beers are brewed in Hoegaarden: Witbier, Das, Speciale, Grand Cru, Verboden Vrucht and Julius. As of December 2005 the brewery is threatened with closure."   Does anyone have a source for the new information? Cafe Nervosa | talk
:I'd believe it's this: ,  and this one from November 30, 2005, from InBev which says really nothing . Still it's sad. feydey 22:52, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
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thread_title: [[WP:FOOD|WikiProject Food and drink]] Tagging

message: Wikipedia states that self-publishes sources can be used in certain cases:
"Self-published sources may be used only in limited circumstances, with caution. but states "Self-published sources should never be used as third-party sources about living persons"..  This caveat clearly doesn't apply here.
The references I provide are legitimate in that they publish CORRESPONDENCE with the brewer or distributor themselves.  This is clearly an acceptable use of a primary source as long as the information is clearly identified as a statement and not a fact: "Primary sources are considered reliable for basic statements of fact as to what is contained within the primary source itself (for example, a work of fiction is considered a reliable source for a summary of the plot of that work of fiction). Primary sources are not considered reliable for statements of interpretation, analysis or conclusion unless the that specific interpretation, analysis or conclusion is explicitly stated in the primary source (for example, a work of fiction is not a reliable source for an analysis of the characters in the work of fiction, but a letter by the Duke of Wellington specifically analyzing the Battle of Waterloo would be a reliable source for a statement as to his analysis of that battle)."
I have included references from two such websites with independent correspondence.  There is no legiitmate reason to believe the information supplied is inaccurate or falsified. The source clearly meets Wikipedia's criteria for eligibility in the absence of a secondary source from a journal or news publication.  If you feel that the sources are insufficient then feel free to add a 'fact' flag to try and strengthen the reference, but ultimately the information added does not pose a legal threat to Wikepedia from the brewery, so given that the information specifically addresses the products, and the references quotes direct correspondence I see no argument to remove the section on the grounds that it is 'unsafe'.
Betty Logan (talk) 04:51, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The legitimacy of the references

message: Since this is relevant to a good proportion of beers including many of the mainstream ones then maybe the debate is best had in the context of the beer Wiki project.  I don't fancy having this dicussion about every beer that is suitable for vegetarians.  By moving the discussion over to the Beer Wikiproject page everyone involved in the articles can have their say.  I've started the discussion here: Dietary information on beer and brewery articles Betty Logan (talk) 21:14, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That discussion is certainly relevant here. See also the current cfd  for :Category:vegetarian beers. Rd232 talk 09:00, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Vegetarian/dietary inclusion discussion

message: Some editors oppose the inclusion of information about a beer's vegetarian suitability on the grounds it is not relevant, while others regard it as the type of information that is suitable for inclusion on Wikipedia articles .  Opinions regarding the eligibilty and suitability of such information are required.  Betty Logan (talk) 13:07, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: My thoughts: I'd think that a non-vegetarian beer would be more worthy of comment than a vegetarian beer would be.  Beers canonically are made from grains, water, and yeasts.  (But yeasts, being fungi, are closer to animals than to plants.)  I know that some brewers and vintners use isinglass as finings.  My understanding is that this is now fairly rare or obsolete, but there may be some traditionalists who use it.  There have been stouts or porters brewed with oysters.  Some beers add lactose for sweetness, which is traditionally "milk sugar", and perhaps a few vegans might object. I'm not sure that milk is the only source of lactose.  That pretty much exhausts the non-vegetarian beers as far as I can imagine.If a beer is brewed with non-vegetarian ingredients, and that fact can be confirmed in reliable sources, I'd say add it - not in a separate section, but in a general discussion of the ingredients.  And adding information about the glue used on the labels definitely veers into fringe concerns.  (Most people don't lick the labels.  I do.  But I'm weird that way.)  And if you are for the moral equality of yeasts, and think they should run free and not be exploited by brewers, you probably don't care what else goes into the beer. - Smerdis of Tlön (talk) 23:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for Comment: suitability of including Hoegaarden beer's vegetarian status in the article

message: The Dutch pronunciation looks improbable enough (and inconsistent with that given at Hoegaarden) but does anyone have any actual evidence for the claimed English one, or is it just some editor's recommendation? In Britain it's always ˈhəʊgɑdən. Flapdragon (talk) 11:28, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: The page reads: "After a fire in 1985, several brewers offered their help — as is traditional in Belgium. One of these was the largest brewer in the country, called Interbrew"
Interbrew didn't exist until 1988. How could they have lent money in 1985?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.104.142.198 (talk) 22:26, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interbrew