Talk:Killone Abbey

message: Hi there, I've read through the above dispute and while I think it got off on the wrong foot, I've read the sources and it is clear that this is indeed located on private property, as stated at this link: . Bastun, thank you for making an effort to include the sources that came up in the discussion above. I've removed most of those quotes, since I find they are more likely to be confusing than helpful to readers. Instead I just left a short sentence about how access is at the discretion of the current owners. -- asilvering (talk) 01:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I've partially reverted. Yes, the abbey is "landlocked" by Newhall Estate, but you removed the fact that guardianship of the abbey and site is vested in the Commissioners of the OPW, not the owners of the estate, and the existence of a right-of-way - public or otherwise - is apparently a fact. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 11:36, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @Bastun you are continuing to edit war and include non-enclopedic statements that I agree with @Asilvering confuses readers, I have not edited the page since you added the warning to my talk page, @Bastun with all due respect I have nothing against you, but you need to step aside, as I have, and let other editors with a neutral point of view take charge. The ref link has a government minister asked in parliament about Killone Abbey he says Killone Abbey is not state owned and public access requires discretion of the owner. Guardianship just means it's a protected site, Killone Abbey is privately owned as per the evidence. Stating there is a (private) right of way on an enclopedic page makes no sense and will confuse. Kellycrak88 (talk) 12:03, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: You need to back off and listen to your mentor. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 12:18, 6 May 2024 (UTC)

text: @Bastun, that isn't correct, though. That's why I removed it. It is Clare Abbey that is landlocked. Killone Abbey is not owned by the state, inside its walls or otherwise. -- asilvering (talk) 17:29, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I've not referred to Clare Abbey at all. Re Killone Abbey, the deputy said "Killone Abbey is not in State ownership but is in the Guardianship of the Commissioners of Public Works." That's reflected in the text I restored, with reference (#6). (The Commissioners are the officers legally in charge of the Office of Public Works.) BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 18:47, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: You referred to "landlocked", which was said about Clare and not about Killone, so I don't think it was strange to assume you had confused the two. Regarding the text you've restored, I've left in this bit about the guardianship, although I do still think it is likely to mislead readers about who owns the land. I've reworded the paragraph a bit to try to avoid the problem. But I've removed the rest of the paragraph, which is really quite unnecessarily confusing to readers. -- asilvering (talk) 19:19, 6 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  edits to clarify ownership 

message: Just went through and removed a lot of content that had been copied from http://monastic.ie/history/killone-augustinian-abbey-nunnery/ . Nobody gets to add it back unless they can establish it is comptatibly licenced and attributed as such. Thank you. GreenLipstickLesbian (talk) 00:03, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright problem removed