Talk:Lake Sevan

message: Lake Sevan, formerly known as Gegham in ancient times, was never referred to as Gokcha (or Goktscha) by the inhabitants of Armenia.  Gokcha is an informal name given by non-Armenians and is not recognized in any official manner. --4.42.6.234 22:11, 11 July 2005 
:Yes, Gokcha is the Turkish name for the lake, never used by Armenians themselves. However, the name was prominent enough to appear in numerous English, German and Russian literature, historic texts and maps. For example, a species of fish endemic to the lake was named the "Gokcha barbel", with the binomial name Barbus goktschaicus, these names remaining official to this day . Overall, there is enough usage of the term in Western languages to justifiy a mention in an English encyclopaedia article. Even the Great Soviet Encyclopedia lists Gokcha as an alternate name . --Aramգուտանգ 13:57, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Since this is an English encyclopaedia article, it should list any alternate names that have a reasonably high rate of occurence in English language sources, irrespective of their official status. The fact that even Google mistakenly uses the term Gokcha shows that there is reasonable likelyhood that someone will look up the lake in an encyclopaedia using the name. The fact that it's mentioned in the article helps people recognise that it is not the official name, rather than be confused by its absence. P.S. Plase sign your posts in the future by typing ~~~~. Thanks.--Aramգուտանգ 04:49, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: I added the rendering "Geycha" because someone used it in the article Siunik. -- Beland 15:08, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geycha 

message: I don't quite follow your logic, Hakob. I see the Armenian name at Kars, Van, Diyarbakır, Yozgat, and even İzmir—all of those cities are situated in the Republic of Turkey, so are they unnecessary  as well? I don't recall their being a Wikipedia rule that states historical names can't be mentioned in articles. —Khoikhoi 01:44, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Me neither. So can I now add the Persian and Armenian names for Ganja? Hakob 09:29, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Go right ahead... —Khoikhoi 00:21, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

text: We surely do not follow THIS rule when we use names such as Leghorn for Livorno or Cologne for Köln or Moscow for Moskwa.Cosal 01:20, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, my mistake.  I didn't mean to say "place names," I was thinking of something else.  It's fixed now, though.  -- Clevelander 01:38, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So we should also remove the Armenian names from Rize and İzmir? They were never part of Armenia —Khoikhoi 01:45, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Rize was part of Byzantine Armenia and Lesser Armenia (not to be confused with the Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia).  The present-day Rize province even includes the Hemşin (or Hamshen) region where the Hamsheni Armenians orginated from.  You're right about İzmir, though.  It was never part of Armenia.  Its only significance to Armenian history was its noteworthy Armenian population which greatly contributed to Western Armenian culture.  -- Clevelander 01:52, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I didn't know that. My point is that there is no rule for including or not including historic/alternate names. —Khoikhoi 02:08, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see where you're coming from now. -- Clevelander 02:11, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine by me. :) —Khoikhoi 02:14, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Azeri name 

message: this article says: Later scientists found that "Suinia" or "Tsuinia" means "lake" or "basin" in Urartian. / also sue = "lake" in Urartian language. Van < Biainili , the same -van part here? Böri (talk) 11:24, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Does anyone have a recent citation for the dimensions of the lake?  The infobox says that the lake is 78 km at its longest, although it does not cite a source (the length and width are not listed in the "Lake Sevan: Experience and Lessons Learned Brief" cited elsewhere).  I examined the recent satellite imagery in Google Maps and the lake does not appear to be longer than 73 km.  Has it shrunk since 2005?  If so, is the 2005 figure for the lake area (940 km²) cited in the infobox now inaccurate?  Ketone16 (talk) 20:58, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size of the lake 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I miss  some information on where the current fish and plants found in the lake come from, if it is only 30,000 years old.
I understand that some  have been introduced recently by humnas.
What about the rest?
Are they descendants of river fauna and flora?
--Error (talk) 19:56, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fish 

message: The aerial view does not match the map at all! The lake is much thinner in the aerial view and has a much bulging “belly” in the map! 82.36.70.45 (talk) 14:19, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do we need a new map? 

message: @Vanezi Astghik, I just saw that this edit was reverted[1] months ago. That's not a duplicate name necessarily. It's Mongolian pronunciation. Also what makes this undue? Faruk Sümer is well-known author has been cited extensively.  Aredoros87  (talk) 18:49, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:WEIGHT. The lake has no significant connection to Mongolia. Vanezi (talk) 19:59, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm familiar with WEIGHT and my addition definitely does not belong to it. Faruk Sumer is well-known author. He has been cited a lot (including wikipedia). As you can see on the article the Turkic name has been mentioned too. And it should not be hard to see the similarity between these 2 names. Moreover, Azerbaijanis used to be majority in surrounding areas of the lake. And if we consider Turkic population migrated there during Mongol invasions, it has pretty enough connection.  Aredoros87  (talk) 20:29, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: More sources would be needed to prove the noteworthiness of Mongolian name, the Turkic name is only there because it was used in some western sources for a time. Vanezi (talk) 13:12, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mogolian pronunciation