Talk:Comparison of HTML editors

message: I would like a column that indicates which products support SFTP for publishing.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.230.124.2 (talk) 21:40, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secure FTP 

message: I was just adding some things to this page and noticed that there are footnotes but their links go nowhere as if someonw deleted that information... :Kirby145: 22:06, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Footnotes 

message: There should be a column for whether or not the editor has a preview pane. To users of front page or other legacy editors this is a important feature. Though personally i prefer VIM.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.99.65.8 (talk) 11:43, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Preview Pane 

message: Dogru144 (talk) 00:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: link for syntax

message: ===link for syntax===
Dogru144 (talk) 00:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  PHP Support 

message: Dogru144 (talk) 00:08, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: link for syntax

message: I was linked here by SCREEM's page, and Screem isn't on here. Can/should it be? 88.11.150.218 (talk) 19:33, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Screem

message: Would it be possible to add Date data to the version column? It is not possible to directly compare version numbers between different software to determine which one is newer. It could then be possible to add the 'discontinued' status into the version column instead of being part of the name.
Rgb9000 (talk) 17:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Date 

message: I don't think it's an HTML editor? It's more of a web inspector/debugger like Firebug and Safari's Web Inspector? Ufopedia (talk) 04:19, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: At that moment you're right. But it is an alpha and they plan to expand the tool with many more features (some hints are already given on the dragonfly page!) mabdul 0=* 15:44, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opera Dragonfly? 

message: The table should show compatible operating systems.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xupid (talk • contribs) 17:45, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Compatibility of operating systems is not germaine to the present site.  Only matters of the editors are pertinent to this site.  This site does address which operating systems the HTML editors work with. Dogru144 (talk) 02:49, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  OS 

message: A comparison site addresses improvements in SeaMonkey.  It now does handle CSS. Please see this review site: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2008/05/06/25-wysiwyg-editors-reviewed/ --from Smashing Magazine, May 6, 2008. Dogru144 (talk) 02:49, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: SeaMonkey, CSS

message: What is the definition of an editor supporting a given image format?
* Acceptance of the user's attempt to include an image in this format?
* Ability to display the image within the editor?
* Ability to convert, if necessary, to GIF, JPEG or PNG?
* Something else entirely?
-- Smjg (talk) 12:35, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be surprised if that's the definition - the table includes TIFF, which isn't normally used on the WWW, so why would any HTML editors generate image files in this format? -- Smjg (talk) 14:55, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image format support 

message: FCKeditor. Should this WYSIWYG HTML editor be in the table? There is also a branch of it being used for WYSIWYG wiki editing. Please see: 
*http://www.fckeditor.net
*http://mediawiki.fckeditor.net
*http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help:New_editor
*http://help.wikia.com/wiki/Help_talk:New_editor
*mw:Extension:FCKeditor (by FCKeditor and Wikia)
*mw:WYSIWYG editor - WYSIWYG editing and software for MediaWiki and some wiki farms. --Timeshifter (talk) 05:58, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  FCKeditor 

message: Alleycode_HTML_Editor. Should this free WYSIWYG HTML editor be in the comparison tables? 
Please see:
http://www.alleycode.com/
Alleycat812 (talk) 10:23, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alleycode 

message: Should this free WYSIWYG HTML editor be in the comparison tables? 
Please see:
http://www.pagebreeze.com/
Alleycat812 (talk) 10:23, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  PageBreeze 

message: What isn't mentioned is which of the many specifications of HTML each editor supports, and whether or not it has any validation mechanism.
This would be an ideal place to put such information.
 HTML 3.2
 HTML 4.0 (strict / transitional / frameset )
 HTML 4.01  (strict / transitional / frameset )
 ISO/IEC 15445:2000
 HTML 5
 XHTML 1.0  (strict / transitional / frameset )
 XHTML 1.1  (strict / transitional / frameset )
 XHTML 2.0  (strict / transitional / frameset )
 XHTML 5
(20040302 (talk) 17:12, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Good contributions!Dogru144 (talk) 23:34, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needed:  Indications of which HTML each editor supports 

message: How is NetObjects Fusion not in this list?  Isn't it a WYSIWYG web editor?Dogru144 (talk) 23:34, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: By nobody having added it, of course.  (That said, in my view it's really just a desktop publisher that likes to think it's an HTML editor.) -- Smjg (talk) 14:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the clarification.  I've been curious about this issue.Dogru144 (talk) 20:44, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  NetObjects Fusion? 

message: The "WYSIWYG" column has appeared since I last looked.  Given that no HTML editor can be truly WYSIWYG for a variety of reasons, what are the criteria for a "Yes" in this column? -- Smjg (talk) 14:33, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  WYSIWYG 

message: AS most casual visitors may I came looking for a guide to find a HTML editor can we agree a nomination list ?
Perhaps some entry criteria ?
--Seanwong (talk) 13:39, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nominations 

message: This article must be deleted according to this discussion and result about the deletion of similar list like articles like this one.
An aticle of deletion should be created here: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Editing Comparison of HTML editors. (Onle registered users can do this, so not me) --91.89.137.62 (talk) 15:49, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As I told you at Talk:Comparison of text editors, that discussion only applies to that article: the rationale does not automatically apply here. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 15:51, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of this article 

message: I noticed it still said that OpenOffice.org was by Sun Microsystems. Shouldn't that be changed to Oracle? Bradj47 02:48, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: although oracle bought sun, the application is still known as OOo --> see here. At the moment at least. mabdul 13:25, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oracle Open Office 

message: which of these are supporting bi-directionality? because dreamweaver is really bad at it--85.64.103.251 (talk) 13:03, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bi-di support? 

message: As the title says....
188.222.184.114 (talk) 03:44, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expression Web is now free 

message: The 'Editor features' table is too wide to display correctly on my system; I'm using the latest Firefox, with the option "Allow pages to choose their own fonts instead of my selections" selected.  Specifically, the rightmost column, 'Form Handler', fails to show on screen unless I take extraordinary measures, such as editing the page.
I discovered that changing the wikitable style from font size 90% down to 82% (but nothing larger, say 83%) would fix the problem for me.  However, that text size is too small for easy reading even by normally-sighted persons, and I feel that perhaps the table is simply too wide overall.  I inspected the headings, which are the widest elements in most columns, but we can't shorten them much without making them harder to understand.
So I have the following questions:
#Could we format the table differently to convey the same information but in a narrower form?  (E.g. by rotating the column headings 90% anti-clockwise, to become vertical.)
#Why not drop the 'Form Handler' column, since we only have definite information for one of the editors listed?
#Is there a Wikipedia formatting standard or style guide that governs minimum acceptable text sizes, keeping in mind the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) standards for web usability by all users, regardless of their physical abilities?
#Similarly, is there a Wikipedia standard on maximum table widths?  (We need to keep in mind that many readers now access Wikipedia primarily or only on tablets and smartphones, with very limited screen area.)
yoyo (talk) 01:04, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The 'Editor features' table is too wide 

message: The tables could helpfully document which editors are build/run in Java (JRE), Javascript, or are otherwise likely to be "non admin install" if running on a locked down computer (assuming a java/javascript enabled browser browser is installed, or Java Webstart is installed).  Zero-admin means that the programme doesn't need to create registry entries, register DLLs, need to put any files in program files, windows/system or windows/system32 etc. and is available unbundled from an installer or can be unbundled by zipping up files of a working install where all the files are easy to find. (Good no-admin install text editor examples are notepad++ and PFE.)
I know that some of the editors listed are JavaScript, and maybe Java.  The comparison of text editors does show ones developed in Java, for example.   
--188.223.226.195 (talk) 11:50, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which Editors run in Java/Javascript/zero-install/non-admin install 

message: HotDog wiki article. Sausage software page shows "HotDog Professional 7.03 US$99.95" (originally free). Also Netscape Gold software sold in the mid 90's was often purchased for the included web page editor (http://www.zisman.ca/netgold/; http://www.its.hku.hk/news/ccnews67/netgold3.htm; http://users.cis.fiu.edu/~downeyt/cgs3559/goldhtml.htm; http://www.ling.upenn.edu/advice/netedit.html)(after all Netscape Navigator was a free download (unless you were too dumb to figure that out. Very few of my customers came into the stores I worked at to buy Netscape Gold for the included browser.) Several hosting sites offer free use of "Homesite"; it is still available (http://download.cnet.com/HomeSite/3000-10247_4-10001199.html), but discontinued by Adobe (http://www.adobe.com/products/homesite/) or see wiki page Macromedia HomeSite. Also I don't believe Frontpage (Microsoft Office Frontpage 2003) was free (it was sold in the Microsoft Store and other software sales concerns) but often included free with other products Frontpage for Mac may be free but also has limited functionality (no VBA) like Frontpage Express. Another is Apple iWeb for Mac (part of iLife $80).
Shjacks45 (talk) 08:28, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing some html editors 

message: I installed the openElement and found out that it can not open an HTML file. What you can do is make a project, open the source view and see the code... editing is limidet. You can not paste the html from somewhere else. So it is not usable to edit my HTML files, that i have on my disk. I would not say that openElement is a "HTML editor".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.161.17.22 (talk) 13:25, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not all are HTML editors 

message: The table mentions OpenOffice.org. Presumably any of its features, including HTML editing support, is also available in LibreOffice. -- 76.14.75.47 (talk) 20:11, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  LibreOffice as well as OpenOffice? 

message: Is Kompozer really "discontinued?" The kompozer.net web page seems to be stuck in 2010, but the SourceForge page has a May, 2016 version. (It's not clear what's updated, though -- I installed it, and it still shows a 2010 copyright notice.) NCdave (talk) 19:24, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kompozer 

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message: I am using HTMLPen.com heavily very recently because of its convenience. I was looking for other editors and felt like I should add it although I did not know Wikipedia rules for talks. So should it be added? Can open edit save html files. It has code completion and code aware coloring. So to me it is a powerful html editor.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.180.145.21 (talk) 05:24, 4 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  HTMLPen.com 

message: The General Information section says "Systems listed on a light purple background are no longer in active development."   I can barely tell the difference between the two types of entry in that column.  Some are in light purple and some others in a very slightly different light purple.  I see NVU is in the very slightly darker light purple and I know that is not in active development, so I think it is the darker light purple for not active development.
I think we need to be highlighting the inactive products in a different way.  SandJ-on-WP (talk) 08:56, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Light purple for not active and accessibility