Talk:Henry Carey (writer)

message: :Are you people imagining things?  I really can't tell the basis of the clean up, and I'd be happy, as the primary author of the article, to clean it up myself, if I knew in some clear sense what it is that appears to be untidy about it.  Apologies for biting when I should be thanking, but I really don't understand the critique -- which would be a good reason for me to step out of the way, if there had been an effort to address the problem on the talk page first.  Geogre 14:08, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps - I'm guessing here - they want some sectioning? —Bunchofgrapes  (talk) 17:53, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
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message: I've been convinced by the quality of the edits from recent workers on the article that there are language knots I missed on my earlier drafts, so I'd like to stay out of the way while y'all work, but I will certainly answer questions about why things were the way they were, what we know, why it was structured in a certain way, etc.  However, one of the cornerstones of writing is aesthetic distance.  As I think Ezra Pound said, the poet does not know what he said.  He only knows what he meant to say.  Similarly, all writers know their own intent, but cannot always see their result, so, while the cleaning is underway, I'll help with comments, facts, explanations, and, if needed, further research (the Grove Encyclopedia, for example, will probably have an entry on him, and I'm planning to go look at it; I suspect its biography will repeat the same errors as the old DNB (the 1894 one), but it will have information on his musical career).  Geogre 02:19, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just found something truly exciting:  Henry Carey's daughter, Anne, was the mother of "Edmund Carey, the remarkable theatrical child."  Edmund was born out of wedlock.  You know him better by his father's name, which he assumed professionally when older: Edmund Kean.  The New Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians had a great deal of cool information, but I'll wait for y'all to finish with the tinkering before I go adding in new blocks of text.  Geogre 16:43, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well as for me, I've done my tinkering for now. I'd say have at it. Paul August ☎ 20:17, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaning comments 

message: The article may be improved by following the WPBiogaphy 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. --KenWalker | Talk 16:01, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I apologize that someone rated this article as Start, it is clearly B class. I also apologize for that idiotic 11 easy steps notice. Psychless 04:09, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography/Assessment#Class_parameter|Biography assessment rating]] comment 

message: #Henry Carey (musician) has no information that is not present in this article in a better form.
#This article was the first one written, and therefore the "musician" authors should have investigated and seen that this was here.
#This article encompasses the whole career and life of the author, rather than one part of his career and life.
#Henry Carey is remembered today as a dramatist, a poet, a musician, and a political actor, so putting something like "musician" is a fork, and a bad one.
#The only reason for "writer" is to stop the confusion with the more famous sports broadcaster (US) and politicians (UK) of the 20th century.
Therefore, there is absolutely no question about merging this to the "musician" article.  Even suggesting it is frankly bizarre.  I cannot support merging "musician" into this, because I've read it and do not see anything, from sources to information, that is new there.  This article uses the Grove, the DNB, and introductions to plays.  That article uses two versions of the Grove.  So, no.  I can't see any justification for the existence of "(musician)," but merging this to that is simply silly.  Geogre (talk) 11:17, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is the base article; merge here, except that there is nothing to merge 

message: Substituted at 17:39, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment