Talk:Paul E. Vallely

message: Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 17:54, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008 

message: Headlining a section of the article with 'A Propagandist' is certainly not NPOV.  Barring any discussion, I'm going to retitle and rework that section into something a little less aggressive.  MWShort (talk) 17:46, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV?

message: The article said Vallely and Gordon Cucullu were co-writing a book titled: "The Myths of Gitmo: Torture, Abuse or the Truth". 
I made this change because the book has been published, and  Cucullu had already published a book on Guantanamo, where he is listed as the sole author.  That book is Inside Gitmo: The True Story Behind the Myths of Guantánamo Bay.
After making the change I found Vallely and Cucullu did publish a book together, about Guantanamo, entitled: Behind Gitmo Wire: How Our Men and Women in Uniform Defend America at Guantanamo Bay
Regarding Cucullu, he has done a considerable amount of work on Google's Gnol, on Guantanamo.  I am not exactly sure on the details on how Gnol works, but it seems that, as some kind of recognized expert, he has been allowed to stake out the Guantanamo territory -- similar to how prospectors used to stake out mines during gold-rushes.  I was frankly shocked at partisan and biased his writing was.  I do not believe it would have ever survived a review here due to what seemed to me to be a lack of commitment to the principle of neutral writing.  
Cheers!  Geo Swan (talk) 19:19, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  explanation 

message: I overhauled the section by: replacing a "citation needed" tag with a cite to the WorldNetDaily article; deleting a quote at the end of the section which rehashed the assertions of the first quote; deleting some confusing, unsourced words about events over a weekend as the lead in to the second quote, replacing them with a statement that Vallely later said, etc.; and added what seems to me a rather significant statement that Wilson denied ever having disclosed his wife's CIA status to Valelly and that he demanded a retraction from both Vallely and WND. By the way, there has been a lot of digital ink expended on various Wikipedia boards about whether WND is a "reliable source" for factual assertions vs. opinions (do they do any fact checking, assess reliability of sources used by writers, etc). I propose to resolve that here by saying that WND is a reliable source for its assertions as to what Vallely said, as he would have had ample opportunity to deny ever making such claims and has not. I note that topics  Joseph Wilson, Plame affair etc are highly controversial and frequently the subject of edit/revert wars. I hope my changes are uncontroversial,  and ask anyone who disagrees with what I have done to discuss here before reverting.  Jonathanwallace (talk) 15:42, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes to "Plame Affair"

message: The publication: From PSYOP to MindWar: The Psychology of Victory - by - Colonel Paul E. Valley Commander - with - Major Michael A. Aquino PSYOP Research & Analysis Team Leader 
It is open source, found at: http://www.markdice.com/documents/MindWar_co_authored_by_Michael%20Aquino.pdf
It might be useful to add it in the "external links", or "see also" section. It is a mere 10 pages document, one third of which is dedicated to rational discussion of the usefullness of psychological approach and information management in a war, another third is something like propaganda for the acceptance of the psychological operation department by the readers (quite enlarging its real impact and importance), and finally one third  a batch of weird suggestions concerning the proposal for the use of "MindWar" instead of propaganda or psychological operations ("The term is harsh and fear-inspiring, and so it should be") and some hints at ESP and other esoterical ideas as possibly useful for future operations. It seems in bottomline as a publication with no particular reason above the one that the author could claim to have one.  
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thread_title:  MindWar 

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