Talk:Merle Haggard

message: I wish I had more time. Its really great and is a good source on Haggard's life and his thoughts. 
It can be found at NPR.org (was aired or at least re-aired just today 10/3/2009)
Sean7phil (talk) 19:37, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Can Someone Link the NPR Interview of Merle?

message: The article states "Merle attended three of Johnny Cash's concerts at San Quentin in three different years."  -- Prehaps there were earlier concerts, but the famous Johnny Cash appearance at San Quentin took place in 1969 -- nine years after Haggard got out.
So, is the quoted sentence an error, or were there earlier (pre-1960) appearances by Cash at San Quentin?
It must be an error, probably means 1970.  In 1960 you did NOT get out of prison after only 3 years of 15 year sentance.  Reagan was elected in 1968, so 1970 fits as a pardon (release) date, and allows Haggard to have been at Cash's concert(s).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.241.74.73 (talk) 21:12, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I agree: the dates don't match. I will remove the sentence.--Jack Upland (talk) 09:25, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Johnny Cash concert

message: One of his largest albums (and individual hits) and it doesn't even get mentioned on the wiki entry.
???
Where is Big Boy?  He's out in front of the Bob's where he belongs.  Where are you and what are you talking about?  Mr. B., NH, 4/21/09  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.9.5.145 (talk) 19:50, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is Big boy? 

message: Is there source somewhere to back up the information about the feud with Willie Nelson? I notice they recorded an album together.  Joyous | Talk 23:29, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feud with Willie Nelson? 

message: I agree with the anonymous editor above. The edits by User:PeterTores introduced several suspicious and unsourced pieces of information: that Merle Haggard and Willie Nelson had a feud going, that Haggard owed much of his success to Gram Parsons, etc. In fact, a good chunk of Haggard's article became a tribute to Gram Parsons. I'm not able to pick out the fiction from the fact in that large edit by PeterTores, but I feel that enough of it is suspect that I've removed it all. There have been some other minor edits since Feb 7, and I'll try to restore those. My apologies if I miss any.  Joyous | Talk 16:55, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reason for revert to Feb 7 version 

message: As someone has deleted the Time Magazine cover for copyright issues, I think we need a new photo.
http://www.omguide.com/images/full_merle.jpg  (This would be good with some cropping)
Neal2028 03:25, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: : While put in solitary confinement on death row, Haggard encountered author and death row inmate Caryl Chessman.
This sentence makes it sound like Haggard was sentenced to death. If that's true, it needs to be expanded. If not (I'm guessing that's the case), the "on death row" part could be eliminated, since "death row inmate" covers where he was (physically) without introducing confusion. 141.151.181.162 04:21, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death row 

message: Can his voice really be described as "deep" or "grumbling"? Maybe his soul, but definitely not his voice. step_sideways 07:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voice 

message: Can someone tell me about the boxcar house?  There's a ruined boxcar with a residential door along the tracks at Norris.  I used to work with someone who knew him as a child who told me the boxcar house was is/was in Beardsley or McCord, but I haven't seen anything like that there.  Frotz (talk) 18:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  boxcar house 

message: The lyrics listed for "Murder on Music Row" are incorrect.  The reference is to Hank Williams, not Merle Haggard ("Ol'Hank", not "The Hag")
Rhinotim (talk) 04:31, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Lyrics 

message: Apparently, his song "I'm a White Boy" (from A Working Man Can't Get Nowhere Today) is now being used as bumper music for the Derek Black Show. I wonder if Haggard gave Derek Black permission to use the song or not? Does anyone know? Stonemason89 (talk) 01:37, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Song 

message: Haggard both in his autobiography and in numerous interviews given, has been careful not to connect his criminal troubles with his father's death. Paavo273 (talk) 00:08, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  His father's death and his early life of crime 

message: The Merle Haggard website biohttp://merlehaggard.com/bio, among other websites, reads that his father died when he was 9. Wouldn't that make the year 1946, not 1945 as is written in the article? It appears from his gravestone, that the date is 1946 as well, June 19 to be exact. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=39842658 I'm unsure about challenging the existing reference though, so leaving this in the talk section. Joel S Bateman (talk) 01:58, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Father's death year is wrong? 

message: Was he a Democrat? (217.42.104.189 (talk) 20:21, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Politics 

message: I reverted the following sentences added by , who reverted my edit and added them back:
Merle Haggard described himself as a student — a student of music, philosophy and communication. He could discuss the guitar work of jazzman Howard Roberts, the hereafter or the spellbinding speaking style of Garner Ted Armstrong of the The World Tomorrow (radio and television) Church of God with equal enthusiasm and authority. In fact, after Garner Ted [Armstrong] died in 2003, Merle commented that “after Johnny Cash died, I lost a real close friend in Garner Ted Armstrong. He was like a professor to me. What education I have, I owe to him.” Merle was driven, he said, by a desire to play the guitar, to have a total knowledge of the instrument. Merle is listed in the Guinness Book of World Records and in various encyclopedias. Those reference books describe him, he said, as a country singer, balladeer, composer of "Okie from Muskogee" and "the poet of the common man." But that's not how Haggard hopes the world remembers him. (Merle Haggard quote about his own epitah) "I'd like it to say: `He was the greatest jazz guitar player in the world that loved to play country."
Much of this is directly taken from the cited article on startribune.com, "1986 interview: 'It has never been fun' being Merle Haggard"  :
He describes himself as a student — a student of music, philosophy and communication. He can discuss the guitar work of jazzman Howard Roberts, the hereafter or the spellbinding speaking style of Garner Ted Armstrong of the Worldwide Church of God with equal enthusiasm and authority. He is driven, he said, by a desire to play the guitar, to have a total knowledge of the instrument.
... On a more mundane level, he is listed in the Guinness Book of World Records and in various encyclopedias. Those reference books describe him, he said, as a country singer, balladeer, composer of "Okie from Muskogee" and "the poet of the common man." But that's not how Haggard hopes the world remembers him.
"I'd like it to say: `He was the greatest jazz guitar player in the world that loved to play country."'
Do others agree that this is a copyright violation which needs to be removed from the article or at least paraphrased? Strawberry4Ever (talk) 02:48, 18 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the above comments. The close paraphrasing here needs to be totally rewritten. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 08:32, 20 April 2016 (UTC)

text: have you read WP:Close paraphrasing? When you copy material from an article written by someone else you can violate copyright even if you change a few words. Quoting Merle Haggard's words with proper attribution would have been O.K. The problem was with copying the words of Jon Bream, the author of the Star Tribune article. Strawberry4Ever (talk) 13:29, 22 April 2016 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia doesn't write epitaphs, and the edit in question was obvious plagiarism. I've reworded.  Nblund talk 18:23, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: My apologies for my recent revert, didn't notice this discussion.  - FlightTime (open channel) 01:35, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Garner Ted Armstrong was locked by  because of repeated sockpuppetry. Not because of edit warring. Coincidentally, the IP user on that page was insisting on including a plagiarized and weakly sourced quote that linked Merle Haggard to Garner Ted Armstrong. Regardless of whether or not you're related to that editor, you haven't cited any policy based reason for keeping this content, and it's copy pasted from the cited source with minimal changes. As far as I can tell, the only reason it is still here is because one or more IP users have repeatedly ignored other editor's concerns. Nblund talk 02:40, 18 August 2019 (UTC)

text:  No, thanx. I haven't really been looking at this, just that edit I reverted caught my eye, but that was before I knew about this discussion. Cheers,  - FlightTime (open channel) 16:51, 18 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright violation