Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dogs/Archive 3

message: Diefenbaker (wolf) the fictional dog from Due South is up for deletion at AFD. 132.205.99.122 (talk) 20:23, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diefenbaker (wolf) 

message: There is a current proposal to change an animal-related naming convention, which directly effects the the Manual of Style guideline, and the naming conventions policy. If you are interested, your input would be appreciated. Justin chat 06:32, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed change to [[Wikipedia:Naming conventions (fauna)]] 

message: Please see/join the discussion at the Manual of Style. Phaunt (talk) 10:29, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalisation of breed names 

message: I have added fact tags to Rottweiler and Doberman Pinscher. I think care needs to be taken to avoid implying that aggression occurs only if owners fail to train them properly. It much reduces the risk, but I can see Wikipedia laying itself open to be sued be having articles written most likely by people fond of the breeds in question that avoid careful wording and referencing.--Peter cohen (talk) 12:28, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dog temperaments and inanadvisable comments 

message: There seem to be a lot of questionable article/edits coming from Bigsteeve, such as Tamaskan Wolfdog and some others.  Somebody who's a bit more knowledgeable might want to look into it.  Fightindaman 00:23, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable articles 

message: I'm very much confused by the articles German Coolie and Koolie - I just wanted some information about a dog breed I saw mentioned in passing. They appear to be POV forks? Some sort of war, from what I could tell on the talk pages, between the German Coolie breeders and the Australian Koolie breeders? the Koolie page seems to list German Coolie as another name for the same breed, and the German Coolie page mentions it being an Australian breed! Can someone who knows what the heck is going on here look into that? Kuronue | Talk 04:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coolies vs Koolies 

message: I've removed references to "Tomberto" in this article. The same user (User:Tomberto)had added it both as an alternative name and as a type of pitbull breed. Given he/she can't make up his/her mind up, I thought it appropriate to remove all references. But am I right in being suspicious of the term's use fullstop?--Peter cohen (talk) 22:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone please? Tomberto has been added again. I've shoved in a fact tag. Could someone who knows more please confrim whether this is for real?--Peter cohen (talk) 15:44, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Pit Bull Terrier]] and "Tomberto" 

message: Can we or do we need to get the article updated to be Boston Terrier (with a capital T vs small t) from Boston terrier as current.   Discuss
Alexkraegen (talk) 23:41, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boston Terrier 

message: I think the Northern Inuit dog page may need a bit of help. the disscusion page is getting a bit political and the article itself is looking a bit of a mess. Any help would be appreciated.--Exhaustfumes (talk) 12:00, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Northern Inuit 

message: The Native American Indian Dog article is up for AfD Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Native American Indian Dog. The creator of the article who is also a breeder of this dog is looking for help in saving this article. I at first voted to keep but since changed to delete. I'm willing to change my vote if someone can bring the article up to scratch? Thought if I posted a message here the people with the necessary expertise could come and take a look at it? Cheers, Sting au Buzz Me... 13:19, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dog breed up for AfD 

message: The Tamaskan Dog article was deleted a while ago; an overwhelming majority of voters believed it wad worth deleting rather than keeping. A lot of people believed the Tamaskan breed to not exist and to be a hoax. The article is now back up; is there anything new that has come up that would back up the existence of the breed; and  therefore, justifying revival of said article, or should we once again put it back up for deletion-voting? I like the idea of a Tamaskan wolf-like dog, but we can't have fake breed articles on Wikipedia... 207.12.38.107 (talk) 14:12, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tamaskan Dog - Validity? 

message: Hi!  I'm not a member of this project, and in fact don't even own a dog.  But I am interested (and quite involved) in the whole wiki concept.  So I was wondering if anyone from this project might be interested in reporting on WikiNews about the Westminster Dog Show, which is coming up in a couple weeks.  If you are, head on over to the article prep page I started, leave a note on the talk page, and let's see what happens! -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 15:48, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Westminster WikiNews 

message: I have assessed 20 articles today in a attempt to cut down the number of unassessed articles.  However, the sheer number of articles (478) will take quite awhile if one person just does it, so I am asking for help assessing them. Coaster1983 (talk) 04:21, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have dropped the number of unassesessed articles down to 459.  This means that I have assessed almost 40 articles in the last 6 hours. Coaster1983 (talk) 06:39, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The number of unassessed articles is down to 387. Coaster1983 (talk) 08:23, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I reached the halfway point!  Only 291 articles need to be assessed for quality and importance. Coaster1983 (talk) 06:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment 

message: See my question/comment (and hopefully response) about existing dog photos here:
: Wikipedia:Image_copyright_help_desk#Adding_image_categories
Elf | Talk 02:46, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This sounds like a good idea, Elf.  I would be happy to give you a hand when I finish assessing all of the articles. Coaster1983 (talk) 02:30, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, good luck with that!  Elf | Talk 05:03, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  About dog photos on wikipedia 

message: Fox hunting has been nominated as a Featured Article candidate.  Please review it. --Una Smith (talk) 04:57, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAC: Fox hunting 

message: The article on the Sulimov dog is not tagged as being in the project, and has one BBC source. I think this one needs consideration for deletion. Is it even possible for jackals and dogs to interbreed? VanTucky 02:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly. Jackals are members of the Canis genus, all of whose members appear to be capable of interbreeding. Furthermore, I see no reason to bout the veracity of the BBC source. Zetawoof(ζ) 05:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious article 

message: The Miniature Bull Terrier page claims that these dogs live to their upper teens, while the page on Dogs states that Miniature Bull Terriers (among other dogs) live a relatively short life of 6-7 years. Obviously, both pages can't be correct.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.149.246 (talk) 21:08, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice catch!  I have removed the unsourced statement in the Miniature Bull Terrier article. --Coaster1983 (talk) 22:17, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miniature Bull Terrier 

message: Images of your dogs are now being collected here.  Please contribute.  I was going to make WP:DOGBOOK, modeled after WP:FACE but thought it best to restrict the gallery to my user space for now.  Woof. --The Fat Man Who Never Came Back (talk) 19:51, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedians' dogs 

message: I think this gives a very distorted view of dog diets:
"Domestic dogs can survive healthily on a reasonable and carefully designed vegetarian diet, particularly if eggs and milk products are included. Some sources suggest that a dog fed on a strict vegetarian diet without L-carnitine may develop dilated cardiomyopathy,[42] however, L-carnitine is found in many nuts, seeds, beans, vegetables, fruits and whole grains. In the wild, dogs can survive on a vegetarian diet when animal prey is not available." 
I think it shows a bias toward a small minority position of vegetarian diet.  It also ignores other minority practices that may be more common.  This might reflect a more mainstream view plus be more inclusive:
"Dog diets are controversial.  Dogs' nutritional needs are well known.  While the great majority feeds common AAFCO tested commercial chows with success, others advocate and successfully feed many other diets including premium commercial chows, home made, raw, and vegetarian.  The AVMA doesn't support home made diets"
To back this, I give http://www.avma.org/press/releases/070404_homemade_diets.asp
Labman, 29 Feb 08 Labman (talk) 16:23, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unbalanced diet discussion 

message: I've lost track of the number of times I've reverted anons changing "bitch" to "female" in Doberman Pinscher (my edit summary analogy is that no one would think of doing the same for "mare"), but within the last day, an editor changed "male" to "dog" and another editor changed it back, stating '"Male" is less confusing for people who aren't well up on dogs.' That makes sense, in a way; we don't call male horses "horses", so there's not the possibility of confusion. 
But that leaves a double standard wrt "bitch". As much as I hate people changing it because (I imagine) they think it's offensive, it might be better to write about "males and females" rather than "males and bitches".
I imagine this has come up before, and I apologize for not searching the archives, but I'm hoping someone can give me some guidance.--Curtis Clark (talk) 14:05, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Males and bitches" 

message: A heads up that the Himalayan Sheepdog article is up for AfD.  --Malcolmxl5 (talk) 01:01, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And it looks like it's been rescued. Zetawoof(ζ) 02:21, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Himalayan Sheepdog]] up for AfD 

message: The Chihuahua page states that longevity for the breed is 8-22 years. I would like a citation, as I have never seen this. The average lifespan is closer to 8-16. I only wish these dogs lived 20, 21 or 22 years!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.97.105 (talk) 23:24, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think some have lived that long, but probably not most. Most of what i found on the web says between 11 and 18 years..--Ltshears (talk) 23:42, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chihuahua "average age"