Talk:Steve McManaman

message: Does anyone think this article as of now reads like fanzine?  Good fanzine, but still much too NPOV? Mandel 22:05, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I suspect that this text could be from another article... NuclearFunk 23:02, 11 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I can't quite pin down the copy vio there, any more clues? Ian13ID:540053 11:36, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
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message: "McManaman was linked to many top rival clubs including FC Barcelona and Juventus F.C.. The former even made an official bid of £12.5m. Liverpool accepted"
That can't be right, as he didn't go to Barcelona.  Should it say Real, or was there an incident which I missed where the Reds accepted an offer from Barca but he didn't end up going? ChrisTheDude 10:18, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know myself like but a team can accept a bid and the player can refuse to go. I think a source would be a good idea to back it up. Englishrose 22:26, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: This can't be right, surely?

message: I'm going to attempt to get this to WP:GA status, first thing I'm going to do is get rid of NPOV, find a foto, and reference everything. John Hayestalk 20:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good article 

message: I dont see why there needs to be a citation/source he's one of two english people to win the champions league?
As well as sourcing he played as a winger.
Why? 77.99.186.110 (talk) 14:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because everything should be proven. The winger bit probably doesn't need one, but the other fact certainly does. John Hayestalk 14:52, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I assume you mean that the FA Cup match is the source. This is known as a primary source and is not used much on Wikipedia as it requires the reader to have knowledge of the event. In my opinion, it's best to treat content as if the reader has very little knowledge about it, and is very sceptical about it being true. So providing a link to a reliable source that confirms the claims in the article would satisfy them. Without the source the reader would have to be either have to trust what they're reading on Wikipedia to be true, be familiar with the FA Cup final in question, or be prepared to do some research to find their own reliable source that confirms it is true. Bill (talk|contribs) 18:11, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations not needed in some bits 

message: The reference formatting is severely messed up. Assistance would be appreciated. - Dudesleeper talk 04:20, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: This page suffered heavy vandalism on 9 December 2010. Even after several Wikipedia police did a good job repairing the page, the vandals succeeded in getting the entire "Early Days" section and other parts of the page edited out by omission as a result of the clean up. The page has been fixed as of 12 December 2010, and all the links and restorations have been made, with all the sections back in tact. Good work to all involved in policing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 27.111.0.12 (talk) 17:03, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
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message: Anyone else think this is rather a long article?....yawn
Extraordinarily long for such an insignificant and trivial figure in public life.  It exudes so much pride it must have been written by his mum.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.239.168.84 (talk) 08:41, 26 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Loooooooooong 

message: This section is well researched and reffed, but in my opinion is far too long and detailed - it could be article all of its own. The editorial about Bosman transfers at the start is fine, but should be in an article about such transfers and not here. I also don't think we need absolutely every twist and turn in the transfer saga in detail and with comments from all concerned - it's just too long. I propose removing the opening editorial and replacing the entire club contract section with this (refs to be included obviously, but for brevity here):
"In August 1997 Liverpool, having been unable to agree a new contract with McManaman and fearing that the player might leave on a Bosman free transfer, accepted a £12.5 million bid from Barcelona. The deal subsequently fell apart amidst recriminations about the player's remuneration demands and Barcelona's motives for the bid, being in negotiation with Rivaldo at the same time and snubbing McManaman when he travelled to Spain to meet them. McManaman himself stated that he had no desire to leave Liverpool and with two years left on his contract was simply not in any rush to sign a new one. A subsequent bid of £11 million from Juventus in November of the same year was rejected by both club and player.
McManaman was named Liverpool captain at the start of the 1998–99 season, but contract negotiations continued to flounder as the club could not match the sums available to McManaman if he left as a free agent. Having been overlooked by Glenn Hoddle for the 1998 World Cup squad in an underachieving Liverpool side, denounced in the English media as being greedy and bolstered by reports from the likes of Paul Ince and Paul Gascoigne, McManaman publicly announced his desire to play abroad.
Numerous European clubs circled the soon-to-be free agent with Real Madrid quickly being seen as his most likely destination. In January 1999 it was reported that McManaman was talking to Real with the player reportedly offered £60,000 a week and nearly £2 million as a signing on fee. On 30 January, McManaman passed a medical and signed an official pre-contract with the club which would make him the best paid British footballer to date. He refused to pose in a Real Madrid shirt at the contract signing event, out of respect for Liverpool's fans."
Normally I'd do the change boldly, but obviously a lot of work has gone into this which I'm disinclined to remove without trying to canvass some opinion. In the absence of any comment I'll make the change at a later date. danno 23:47, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
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message: Perhaps the following improvements could be considered:
1) Making the entire article more neutral; rewriting is heavily needed as things about his style of play are not in the right sections etc.
2) Making the image of him younger and adding more images
3) His time at clubs could be put into dates Scientelensia (talk) 20:49, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: - re point 2, do you have access to other copyright-free images of him? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 15:01, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Afraid not – I was wondering if others did. Scientelensia (talk) 15:54, 20 January 2023 (UTC)
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