Talk:China national football team

message: Could somebody knowledgable on this subject check the accuracy of the midfield players listed in the current team? Sun Jihai is OK, but Li Xiaopeng and Yan Song link to a gymnast and 16th century Prime Minister respectively! -- Arwel 18:51, 13 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: i think we should delete the current squad section. national teams dont have current squads, they have player pools. the pools are big and change often (vs european club rosters which are small and change twice a year). if it's the 22 man roster from the last asia cup, we can start a Asian Cup 2004 (squads) page like we have for (some of) the world cups. Nateji77 13:03, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Accuracy

message: Simply put, the picture occupies two thirds of the screen area. Please fix soon. Meanwhile, it will be removed. Colipon+(T) 20:27, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: The 24-man squad (Reuters) for the matches against Australia in Guangzhou on March 24 and Uzbekistan three days later in Macau:
Squad:
*Goalkeepers: Li Leilei (Shandong Luneng), Chen Dong (Dalian Shide), Yang Jun (Tianjin Taida)
*Defenders: Sun Xiang (PSV Eindhoven), Sun Jihai (Manchester City), Zhang Yao Kun (Dalian Shide), Du Wei (Shanghai Shenhua), Xu Yunlong (Beijing), Cao Yang (Tianjin Taida), Xin Feng (Shenzhen), Lu Jianjun (Harbin Yiteng)
*Midfielders: Zheng Zhi (Charlton Athletic), Shao Jiayi (Energie Cottbus), Yan Song (Dalian Shide), Sun Ji (Shanghai Shenhua), Yu Tao (Shanghai Shenhua), Zhou Haibin (Shandong Luneng), Wang Dong (Changchun Yatai), Zhao Junzhe (Liaoning)
*Forwards: Dong Fangzhuo (Manchester United), Li Jinyu (Shandong Luneng), Han Peng (Shandong Luneng), Mao Jianqing (Shanghai Shenhua), Du Zhenyu (Changchun Yatai) Lop.dong 10:49, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Perhaps its worth mentioning that China has called up all their European-based players for these friendlies:   // Laughing Man 16:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Most recent squad

message: Since the official short name of FIFA for this team is "China PR", wouldn't it be a good idea if this is moved to China PR national football team? --Howard the Duck 02:58, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  China PR? 

message: The word punt has a specific meaning in American football and the various codes of rugby.  It is not frequently used in soccer/football.  A similar term that is used is volley.  However, the phrase "long punt" here is clearly meant to refer to a long ball.  (Herbert Xu) 00:55, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Long punts 

message: I believe for 2008-2009, China's national team has reversed the colors, making the white the home jersey and the red the away jersey.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.62.205 (talk) 09:24, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current Kits 

message: Have these got a source? I only know that Hao Haidong's stats are right. - Nick C (t·c) 18:32, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top goalscorers and most capped tables 

message: The title should be named as "China national football team". Before the establishment of the People's Republic of China in 1949, the record of Republic of China is counted as the present "China PR" national football team. Also the article of other sports teams of China is named "China" instead of "China PR".--FootballHK (talk) 07:16, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There was already a discussion 3 sections above. The records and achievements before 1949 being counted towards today's team is irrelevant as the name is not. FIFA, the governing body of football, officially refers to the team as China PR. See: http://www.fifa.com/associations/association=chn/index.html As for other team pages well that depends on what their respective sports governing body refers to them by and if necessary the name will be changed accordingly. Transaction Go (talk) 02:42, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: So should we move other national football teams of China to China PR?--FootballHK (talk) 02:59, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well yes now that you pointed that out that would be most appropriate. Transaction Go (talk) 06:50, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  China national football team or China PR national football team 

message: Can anyone help me disentangle the official status of the various matches involving the China national football team prior to 1948. I am slowly building the List of first association football internationals per country and have had some problems identifying the first "official" match for each particular country; hopefully, I've got it right so far.  But I am hitting a wall with the Chinese. The article for the China PR national football team (People's Republic) lists their first match as taking place on 1 February 1913, with an alternative as 4 August 1952, whereas the article for Chinese Taipei national football team (Taiwan) also claims the 1 February 1913 match, with an alternative of 1 May 1954.
For Taiwan I have gone with the latter but for the People's Republic I have gone with the Olympic Games match on 2 August 1948, as per the RSSSF article. RSSSF list three matches played in Hong Kong in 1949, 1950 and 1953 between "China" and South Korea which don't seem to have official status. The ELO website (which shows how the FIFA rankings are arrived at) lists the first Taiwan match as that on 1 May 1954 but for the People's Republic it shows all the matches from February 1913.
RSSSF does not list any of the "pre-war" matches for either country and for the earlier matches (from 1913 to 1921) in the Far Eastern Games, says that China was represented by a club side, South China A.A... China also played in the 1936 Olympics; and the FIFA match summary shows them as "China PR".
Another website lists all the matches from 1913, but attributes those up to 1927 as , those from 1930 to 1949 as  Including both the 1936 and 1948 Olympic Games matches) with the first  match as being that on 4 August 1952.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.    Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 08:42, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  China - international football 

message: No mention of the recent scandal where players were literally just buying their spots on the national team?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.198.255.246 (talk) 16:34, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Scandal not mentioned

message: not USA 5-6 ChinaPR, it's :
UAR 8 - 0 China PR ,(UAR is Egypt, it was called that back then)
(Indonesia; March 30, 1963)
source :[]
Please correct it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.232.125.221 (talk) 15:10, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biggest Defeat is not correct 

message: | name alias-football = China PR → | name alias-football = China
Now China's Country data football name alias is China PR. need fix name alias.--Fetx2002 (talk) 09:43, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request fix Template:Country data China 

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message: Some of the sourcing here is outdated and doesn't work.  With the new attention to this article, I hope editors can review the sourcing and fix broken links. --David Tornheim (talk) 10:04, 21 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sourcing 

message: This article mentioned at these places:
* Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Sports#China_national_football_team
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thread_title:  Notice 

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* edit 15:31, 25 April 2020 The removal of historical context opens this passage up to a distortion of the  historical record. --Kai Lau (talk) 00:51, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit 1

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* edit 13:38, 21 April 2020 Deleting significant views, research or information from notable sources that would usually be considered credible and verifiable in Wikipedia terms. Concealing of relevant information about sources or sources' credentials that is needed to judge their value. --Kai Lau (talk) 00:51, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the removal, because the reference is WP:PRIMARY and does not refer to the team at all.  Hence it is WP:OR.  Therefore, I am removing it.  If you (or anyone else) can find WP:RS that says this in referring to the team, it can be restored with the new reference. --David Tornheim (talk) 17:46, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I will be restoring this edit with this reference: FIFA and the "Chinese Question", 1954-1980: an exercise of statutes p81-83 as it directly states that this act was the instigating factor on why the team rejoined Fifa. Kai Lau (talk) 22:02, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: @Pestick if you disagree with an edit please go to this talk page to discuss it before deleting the content. As you wrote "differentiate between an association and a football team. You know that the CFA join FIFA, not the team right?" on the edit summary I will add another reference(s) that expressively states China national football team rather then CFA.  and  Kai Lau (talk) 02:07, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit 2

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* edit 13:29, 21 April 2020 Information suppression by not allowing one view to "speak for itself".--Kai Lau (talk) 00:51, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The sentence in question has no WP:REF.  It could be deleted, but I have added a Citation needed tag, to allow Kai Lau to add a citation if it can be found.  If none can be found, the sentence can be deleted.  --David Tornheim (talk) 17:56, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I will use this reference taken from Sports around the World [4 volumes]: History, Culture, and Practice. Kai Lau (talk) 22:08, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: @Pestick Why did you remove a clearly referenced source without any explanation? Kai Lau (talk) 00:28, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: @Kai Lau Huh? I did explain. Did you not read the edit summaries? Or did you not understand them? Because either the referenced sources are not related to the main topic, or they cited events that are not notable enough. Wikipedia's article does not need to include all events, just to write the important ones.Pestick (talk) 01:24, 23 May 2020 (UTC)

text: @Pestick your edit summary was only for Edit 2 with no explanation to this edit. As for this edit, Help:Your first article clearly states "the topic should be notable and be covered in detail in good references from independent sources". This edit is notable and detailed as it explains the hostilities between the two teams, why there were two teams using the same name for years and the origins on why this team would isolate itself from the footballing community. The reference is directly related to the main topic and it is a independent source. Kai Lau (talk) 02:09, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit 3

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* edit 13:27, 21 April 2020 Entirely omitting significant citable information in support by minimizing, trivializing or ignoring other citations that call one's opinion into question.--Kai Lau (talk) 00:51, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit 4

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* edit 08:59, 21 April 2020 Information suppression by concealing relevant information about sources or sources' credentials that is needed to fairly judge their value.--Kai Lau (talk) 00:51, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit 5

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* edit 10:45, 29 April 2020 Section blanking, no consensus discussions with all concerned users, Appropriate text should be preserved, as much as possible, according to WP policy WP:EDIT and removing encyclopedic content without any reason.--Kai Lau (talk) 00:51, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit 6

message: Here is my objection, I found that people listed Taiwan here before it was locked to prevent outsiders from making vandalism for a year. Taiwan however is not well-known in football, the Taiwanese (or Republic of China) football team isn't known to the rest of the world. Current People's Republic of China (or mainland China) and Taiwan has a tense relationship, but it has never extended to football level because of lacking popularity of football in Taiwan. Like the case of India and Pakistan where football rivalry isn't common here. ZaDoraemonzu (talk) 12:19, 9 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Taiwan isn't China's football rival

message: The venue of China national team's matches in June 2023 is wrongly indicated (in the drop-down details) as Barracuda Bay Stadium in  Dalian. At that very time the named stadium was under construction still.
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thread_title:  Error 

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