Talk:Prostitution in Australia

message: I've wikified and edited and practically rewritten the whole article, but have left the lnks alone. I'm not sure if the links to articles are relevant to a wikipedia article. what do others think?
I've also made it very legally based- nothing much more than a re phrasing of a few articlees summarising legalities elsewhere. anyone care to elaborate on the sociological, historical etc issues, i think that would help a lot.
I'm not a lawyer, and may have missed crucial bits.WotherspoonSmith 14:33, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added in some historical background, but there is an extensive sociological literature Mgoodyear (talk) 18:28, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  newspaper article external links and I AM NOT A LAWYER 

message: The map does not reflect the reality of prostitution being decriminalized in New South Wales and the Northern Territory; Victoria will also see sex work fully decriminalized by December 2023. Desmond Ravenstone (talk) 01:18, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map needs to be updated 

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 16:31, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: You guys missed the Australian Capital Territory
150.203.110.110 (talk) 01:00, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: fixed Mgoodyear (talk) 18:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australian Capitol Territory 

message: It may eventually be necessary to create separate pages by jurisdiction, with summaries on the main page. With such different systems in each part of the country, footnotes should probably indicate which State or territory they apply to. (I have done this for all notes to date) Mgoodyear (talk) 18:48, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I fail to see why we need a discussion of prostitution laws around the world in the first section - I suggest it be removed or moved to a general article on prostitution Mgoodyear (talk) 22:29, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organisation 

message: Unfortunately switching embedded external refs to footnotes creates a new problem, the links will all have to be converted from URLs to titles. I fixed a few Mgoodyear (talk) 18:58, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: External links need cleaning up too Mgoodyear (talk) 02:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: There seems to be a little bit of discussion at the moment on the legality of prostitution in Australia. When I have time I will reference it, but for the moment my understanding is that there is a general prohibition on prostitution, except in the limited circumstances outlined in the article (i.e. at registered brothels). Comments welcome VeryRusty (talk) 06:51, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Legality

message: This article should be split, with the intro, the sections "History", 
"Health" and "Human trafficking in Australia" remaining part of this article, and each state/territory being moved to its own new article. eg Prostitution in New South Wales.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:2F0A:501F:FFFF:0:0:50C:DC01 (talk) 04:23, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe. As a long term contributor to this page, I am asking you for a rationale, since what happens in the various jurisdictions influence each other and the references and sources often include multiple jurisdictions. I will see what other contributors have to say. --Michael Goodyear (talk) 16:06, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Split article

message: In accordance with the final comment from the last section, I have started a new discussion thread.
Thanks for the contribution Michael Goodyear (talk). I don't know of any claim in which the content was described as "outrageous", but that is not my belief if I have mistakenly used the adjective. You will see from earlier in the last section that my position is that such Wikipedia pages, which are essentially political in nature, require citations for factual statements and assertions, so that readers can be confident in the evidence base—if one exists—that underpins content in articles covering topics with a high level of significance. The current news from Canada, in addition to the news from earlier in the year regarding Mary Honeyball and the Nordic model of prostitution, are examples of the subject's current prominence in global affairs. I have not reviewed the article's content in several months, so I will need to revisit it, but I am very willing to collaborate, which is another reason I thanked you for contributing (in addition to helping with progress). I do not wish to engage in the "video game"-style argumentativeness that critics of Wikipedia have talked about in the media, so let's just get on with further enhancing the article. --Soulparadox (talk) 11:48, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I only meant that it looks pretty factual to me and I have tried very hard to keep it that way. I don't know you, but are you a member of of the sex work task force here? I maintain many of the prostitution by country articles and coordinate the global research network, so yes I am fully aware of the issues. To be fair I was not all that happy with recent revisions, for instance i went to the first tag - History, which is all from Roberta Perkins. The reason it has so many tags is because someone split it into smaller paragraphs, although all the content was referenced to her. I didn't see the new wording as any improvement. --Michael Goodyear (talk) 14:07, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I tidied that up to start with --Michael Goodyear (talk) 14:41, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tagging, citation, etc. (cont. from previous section) 

message: Soulparadox, was it you that reversed my decision to place all the references regardless of context at the end? That's a pretty major decision change, and should have been discussed here. It makes it much harder to deal with the individual States - although someone had suggested splitting the article up into States. The ability to group references in Wikipedia was designed with good reason. --Michael Goodyear (talk) 14:48, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: The section on Victoria needs updating, possibly reducing as well, seems a bit like WP:EXCESSDETAIL and detail that is no longer relevant anyway. You could make a point to just WP:TNT the entire section and start again, cherry picking from the old section. In terms of the map, Victoria needs to be changed blue after 1 December 2023. I have updated the lead, but the section still needs updating MarkiPoli (talk) 11:42, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Victoria needs updating, map should change from 1 December 2023 

message: The image and the first section states that the ACT has decriminalised sex work but it is legalised, not decriminalised. The reference that has been used to say it is decriminalised (https://www.sydneycriminallawyers.com.au/blog/the-legal-status-of-sex-work-across-australia/) does not support what is written, and clearly categorized the ACT under legalised. The image and the text need updating. Date: 30/04/24 AusGayLaws (talk) 13:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistake: the ACT has not decriminalised sex work