Talk:Jerrycan

message: Hi there; as far as I know, the jerrycan has not been invented by the Italians but the Germans. See this link:
http://www.afrika-korps.de/forum/viewtopic.php?p=16560#16560
Cheers, Kuno
:I've found the document on which the text I quoted is based: it is a report from the Commanding Officer of the 7th. M13 Tank Btn., addressed to the 32nd. Tank Regiment Command, dated 21 April 1941. The text reads:
:"No other container exists than the 200 litres drum, cumbersome, unwieldy. In German units, instead, there exist 20 litres canisters, which refueling is made with, up to the single tank or car, and which every vehicle carries a suitable supply of, in special installations." (robc's translation)
:This definitely means that at that date, after almost one year of war, still there were no jerrycans in Italian use, either of national production or borrowed from the Germans (possibly apart from small units interoperating directly with the Afrikakorps).
:Ok; they would probably not have written this complain[sic: complaint] if they would have had something like a jerrycan already
:I was mislead by your title, so I've re-written it for you :)
:~ender, 2006-01-31 21:05:PM MST
And how much fuel does a Jerry can hold? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.217.41.148 (talk • contribs) 20:34, 22 July 2006
: Twenty liters, or five gallons. —wwoods 06:02, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  20 liters is 4.4 Imperial gallons or 5.3 U.S. gallons. —QuicksilverT @ 22:17, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  German invention of the jerrycan 

message: Its odd that this article is mostly from the UK/US perspective.  This article needs history on the German development as well. —Cliffb 11:36, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No German History 

message: In some parts of Europe these liquid containers are known as "Marmon cans", since originally these were factory accessories for the Ford Germany made heavy military trucks, fitted with the patented Marmon-Herrington 4x4 drive system. 195.70.48.242 09:13, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The sacred vessel of the Marmon 

message: :In the summer of 1939 ...
This wording is ambiguous and can be misinterpreted. It would work better if it was replaced with an actual date, month name or range of months. --B.d.mills 03:36, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm inclined to agree with the one fellow above regarding the section on American "disinterest", especially since American made can were being manufactured prior to Pearl Harbor.--172.129.216.58 (talk) 06:51, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  When 

message: What exactly is so special about the jerrycan's manufacture that makes it robust and so much better than anything else at the time? There's virtually no information in here about why it was so great that it was reverse engineered -- just that it was. PolarisSLBM 17:01, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Robust'? 

message: As a gas jockey at the sharp end of "customer" "service" (interpret quotes how you will), I'd appreciate information on civilian jerry cans and especially how to properly dispose of ones that are no longer fuelworthy... --66.183.197.66 (talk) 11:22, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Civvie versions? 

message: What did Pleiss do with his third stolen jerry can??? Lovefist233 (talk) 21:10, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Third Can 

message: This article could use a fairly drastic overhaul. As it is, information pertaining to its design is shoved into the middle of a rundown of a small portion of its history, which seems to only extend as far as WWII, and only as far as the US and British responses to its design. Kouban (talk) 21:27, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overhaul 

message: I search quite a while on the web and books. However, I found no reference to the fact that this was a secret project.
It was common knowledge that the cans from WWI were unreliable and therefore the development of a new can generation is more than obvious. Therefore the German army launches an invitation to tender for a new model of container in 1936. (Wow, that was secret!)
But of course, I know: "secret project of Hitler" sounds more fascinating and originates most likely from an American or perhaps English author.
I suggest to delete this information until someone has found some proof!
The above mentioned development was lead by Schwelmer Eisenwerk Müller & Co AG under Vinzenz Grünvogel.
The production starts at the beginning of 1937 in co-operation with firm AMBI-BUDD Presswerk of Berlin which provides the machine tools. 
It seems to me that everyone is cititing the same internet sources as they all have the same wording.
Fascinating, I thought this was Wikipedia, not CopyPastedia....  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.4.51.16 (talk) 13:47, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  welcome to reality - manhood slightly forgets his ability to have own thoughts - wikipedia is part of the problem ;-) --93.221.241.251 (talk) 12:06, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secret Project of Hitler? Pleiss? 

message: Your discussions are interesting.  I wrote the article for the German Jerrycan, exact designation: "Wehrmacht-Einheitskanister":
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wehrmacht-Einheitskanister Arche-foto (talk) 10:31, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hello, look once over the British Channel too ... 

message: The way I am reading it, the next part goes for WW2 era jerrycans in general, yet it is only mentioned in the British necessity part: 
"The sides of the can were marked with cross-like indentations that strengthened the can while allowing the contents to expand, as did an air pocket under the handles when the can was filled correctly. Rather than a screw cap, the containers used a cam lever release mechanism with a short spout secured with a snap closure and an air-pipe to the air pocket which enabled smooth pouring (which was omitted in some copies). The interior was also lined with an impervious plastic, first developed for steel beer barrels that would allow the can to be used for either water or gasoline. The can was welded, and had a gasket for a leak-proof mouth."
Should this be moved into the general description of the jerrycan? Or am I mistaking and is this description really something that sets the British version apart form the others?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.245.1.225 (talk) 15:59, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information under wrong header 

message: Under the picture, it says "Different colours designate the contents - see table." But there is no table.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.234.206.89 (talk) 17:11, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Table 

message: Per WP:SUBCAT, :Category:German inventions should be removed because this article is already a member of child category :Category:Inventions of the Third Reich.  --Dennis Bratland (talk) 17:09, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Categories

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on Jerrycan. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20090324102055/http://www.epa.gov:80/air/community/details/gascan.html to http://www.epa.gov/air/community/details/gascan.html
*Attempted to fix sourcing for http://www.americanheritage.com/articles/magazine/it/1987/2/1987_2_62.shtml
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Cheers. —cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 09:38, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: WP:ENGVAR, or more specifically WP:ARTCON is very clear on this:  "Within a given article the conventions of one particular variety of English should be followed consistently".
Whilst there are exceptions, none of them cover this instance.  The only example where this could be qualified would be (as I suggested) to turn the entire list into a direct quote from the regulation in question.
Even if the section refers to an American usage, we still use the term "Petrol", as that is the national variety used in the article.  Given that the Jerrycan is of German origin we don't say "it was originally intended to carry benzin".  Chaheel Riens (talk) 10:05, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: ok, the list is now a direct quote as you suggested. Add quotation marks if needed. For now I bulleted the list but will work on formatting it further to match the source. MartinezMD (talk) 18:14, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Petrol or Gasoline in an British English language article 

message: This article indicates that Paul Pleiss, the American who brought US attention to the container design, was actually the director of Ambi-Budd, which played a key role in the manufacturing of the container in Germany, suggesting that he likely was intimately familiar with the can without needing to be introduced to it by a friend. This suggests the story given here should be edited. It cites an NYT obituary, but I haven't been able to access it. -Ramzuiv (talk) 18:46, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paul Pleiss' connection with Ambi-Budd