Talk:Barak Valley

message: Sign -OOUI JS Saurav Mazumder 
Id-2409:4065:E:250E:68D4:C791:AF35:BEFE. Trappist the monk plz correct the demography of lakhipur tehsil of cachar district in the trend section of Barak Valley. The existing number of Hindus and Muslims mentioning there is of lakhipur tehsil of Goalpara district and not of cachar as there are two lakhipur tehsils in Assam. Earlier I have requested in the Talk:Barak valley page but you didn't have responded it yet. Here's the link https://www.s/www.censusindia.co.in/amp/subdistrict/lakhipur-circle-cachar-assam-2100  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4065:D82:2973:401C:769F:2AC3:B632 (talk) 05:10, 17 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Barak Valley

message: There was a wrong number citations of Hindu and Muslim population in the trends section of lakhipur tehsil of Cachar district. 
Lakhipur tehsil have a hindu majority. The lakhipur Hindu and Muslim population here in the trend section is that of Goalapra district tehsil not of the Cachar as there are two lakhipur tehsils in Assam. Here, below is the real link of Lakhipur tehsil demography of cachar. https://www.s/www.censusindia.co.in/amp/subdistrict/lakhipur-circle-cachar-assam-2100.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4065:E1E:D337:5C94:7D1E:D591:3C3B (talk) 07:58, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Regarding the demography part

message: There was a wrong number citations of Hindu and Muslim population in the trends section of lakhipur tehsil of Cachar district. 
Lakhipur tehsil have a hindu majority. The lakhipur Hindu and Muslim population here in the trend section is that of Goalapra district tehsil not of the Cachar as there are two lakhipur tehsils in Assam. Here, below is the real link of Lakhipur tehsil demography of cachar. https://www.s/www.censusindia.co.in/amp/subdistrict/lakhipur-circle-cachar-assam-2100.
Plz Change/edit it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2409:4065:E:250E:68D4:C791:AF35:BEFE (talk) 17:00, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Regarding the demography part

message: It would be important to reconsider whether the actual dialect of the majority of the people of the valley has remained purely sylheti, or has attained a new linguistic form of its own. I propose to change it to cachari (to distinguish it from indigenous Kachari) to mark the evolution of the dialect into a new one with the amalgamation of a much larger retinue of colloquial assamese words.  Azorahai26 (talk) 17:46, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dialect of Barak Valley 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I Bhaskardebroy (talk) 19:26, 16 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable People 

message: Sylheti is spoken by the majority in Barak valley. It is a fact! Though it might not be reflected in census data accurately. It is also used for inter ethnic communication. Why is it placed after Bengali and Hindi?? Truthfulsoldier (talk) 20:42, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sylheti is spoken by the majority in Barak valley 

message: scroll.in is 'unreliable' here but scroll.in is considered valid in the statehood demand section ? Keep your dumb Bengali nationalism out of Assam. Stay neutral or refrain from editing Assam & Tripura related pages. These sources are more valid than self-declared typical Bengali "historians" like Bhattcharjee who "believes" stuffs.Tizen03 (talk) 12:35, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Stop making personal attacks, I'm not Bengali nor everyone reverting your edits. Check this edit summary instead. The "copy-vio revdel" edit summary was added by mistake, the one meant for the IP user when they added copyrighted content. The Scroll source doesn't mention Barak Valley so what you added in original research, not to mention the content was copypasted. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:39, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreliable source ? 

message: Plz change the trends section lakhipur tehsil Hindu Muslim population as it is totally wrong according to 2011 census Hindus are majority in Lakhipur tehsil. 2409:4065:280:446F:2129:F30F:296:19BD (talk) 16:32, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. – Jonesey95 (talk) 17:36, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 January 2021 

message: www.censusindia.co.in/subdistrict/lakhipur-circle-cachar-assam-2100  here is the reference of my Earlier claim based upon the hindu Muslim population of lakhipur tehsil... In the wikipedia it is wrong as because the lakhipur tehsil demography here is of Goalpara district. 2409:4065:280:446F:9BC2:795C:68BC:2AB (talk) 19:29, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 19:45, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 2 January 2021 (2) 

message: www.censusindia.co.in/subdistrict/lakhipur-circle-cachar-assam-2100 here is the reference of my Earlier claim based upon the hindu muslim population of lakhipur tehsil... In the wikipedia it is wrong as because the Lakhipur tehsil demography here is of Goalpara district and not that of Cachar.
Change X (Lakhipur circle Hindu	48,692 (17.42%),  Muslim 226,120 (80.88%) into Y (Hindu 178,163 (61.04%) and Muslim 95,476 (32.71%) as it is the correct trends based on demography part.
Another change is the description that X (Hindus are majority in two tehsils of Cachar district namely Silchar and Udharbond, while Muslims are majority in Lakhipur, Katigora and Sonai circle according to 2011 census) into Y (Hindus are majority into three tehsils of Cachar district namely Silchar, Udharbond and Lakhipur, while Muslims are majority in Katigora, Sonai circle according to 2011 census). 2409:4065:D93:87D6:76AD:3631:DFF5:3A7C (talk) 14:10, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. www.censusindia.co.in/ is not a official govt website; need a better WP:RS. GreaterPonce665 (TALK)  15:53, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 January 2021 

message: the Lakhipur tehsil demography here is of Goalpara district and not that of Cachar.
Change X (Lakhipur circle Hindu	48,692 (17.42%),  Muslim 226,120 (80.88%) into Y (Hindu 178,163 (61.04%) and Muslim 95,476 (32.71%) as it is the correct trends based on demography part.
Another change is the description that X (Hindus are majority in two tehsils of Cachar district namely Silchar and Udharbond, while Muslims are majority in Lakhipur, Katigora and Sonai circle according to 2011 census) into Y (Hindus are majority into three tehsils of Cachar district namely Silchar, Udharbond and Lakhipur, while Muslims are majority in Katigora, Sonai circle according to 2011 census). Here is the references -: https://cachar.gov.in/search?title=Lakhipur+tehsil&Apply=Apply 2409:4065:D89:B355:262F:EAAD:4F82:8D9F (talk) 14:21, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The source you provided has only one link, about some applicaion . No mention of religious stratification in the PDF. Bring some explicit source, perhaps from government census source(s). - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:54, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding demography part 

message: In the wikipedia it is wrong as because the Lakhipur tehsil demography here is of Goalpara district and not that of Cachar.
Change X (Lakhipur circle Hindu	48,692 (17.42%),  Muslim 226,120 (80.88%) into Y (Hindu 178,163 (61.04%) and Muslim 95,476 (32.71%) as it is the correct trends based on demography part. Another change is the description that X (Hindus are majority in two tehsils of Cachar district namely Silchar and Udharbond, while Muslims are majority in Lakhipur, Katigora and Sonai circle according to 2011 census) into Y (Hindus are majority into three tehsils of Cachar district namely Silchar, Udharbond and Lakhipur, while Muslims are majority in Katigora, Sonai circle according to 2011 census). 
Below is the official governmental link, plz check it out.
www.censusindia.gov.in › dchbPDF
Cachar - DISTRICT CENSUS HANDBOOK 2409:4065:E00:8EBF:8AA4:4DC4:5ED7:D519 (talk) 18:14, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked this, nothing on religion. I searched these figures. Can you mention the exact pages? - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 18:25, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 20:35, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 January 2021 

message: In the wikipedia it is wrong as because the Lakhipur tehsil demography here is of Goalpara district and not that of Cachar.
Change X (Lakhipur circle Hindu	48,692 (17.42%),  Muslim 226,120 (80.88%) into Y (Hindu 178,163 (61.04%) and Muslim 95,476 (32.71%) as it is the correct trends based on demography part. Another change is the description that X (Hindus are majority in two tehsils of Cachar district namely Silchar and Udharbond, while Muslims are majority in Lakhipur, Katigora and Sonai circle according to 2011 census) into Y (Hindus are majority into three tehsils of Cachar district namely Silchar, Udharbond and Lakhipur, while Muslims are majority in Katigora, Sonai circle according to 2011 census). 
Below is the official governmental link, plz check it out.
etrace.in › Census › Subdistrict
Web results
Villages and Towns of Lakhipur Tehsil of District ... - Etrace.in 2409:4065:403:DE41:53:CAD1:4A91:28B4 (talk) 16:25, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 17:02, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding lakhipur tehsil 

message: In the wikipedia it is wrong as because the Lakhipur tehsil demography here is of Goalpara district and not that of Cachar.
Change X (Lakhipur circle Hindu	48,692 (17.42%), Muslim 226,120 (80.88%) into Y (Hindu 178,163 (61.04%) and Muslim 95,476 (32.71%) as it is the correct trends based on demography part. Another change is the description that X (Hindus are majority in two tehsils of Cachar district namely Silchar and Udharbond, while Muslims are majority in Lakhipur, Katigora and Sonai circle according to 2011 census) into Y (Hindus are majority into three tehsils of Cachar district namely Silchar, Udharbond and Lakhipur, while Muslims are majority in Katigora, Sonai circle according to 2011 census). Below is the link https://censusindia.gov.in/2011census/C-01/DDW18C-01%20MDDS.XLS 2409:4065:403:DE41:C229:E4C5:39C:A880 (talk) 17:52, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Duplicate request of above (19 January) which was rejected because not in source. RandomCanadian (talk / contribs)  00:32, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 25 January 2021 

message: In the wikipedia it is wrong as because the Lakhipur tehsil demography here is of Goalpara district and not that of Cachar.
Change X (Lakhipur circle Hindu	48,692 (17.42%), Muslim 226,120 (80.88%) into Y (Hindu 178,163 (61.04%) and Muslim 95,476 (32.71%) as it is the correct trends based on demography part. Another change is the description that X (Hindus are majority in two tehsils of Cachar district namely Silchar and Udharbond, while Muslims are majority in Lakhipur, Katigora and Sonai circle according to 2011 census) into Y (Hindus are majority into three tehsils of Cachar district namely Silchar, Udharbond and Lakhipur, while Muslims are majority in Katigora, Sonai circle according to 2011 census). Below is the link https://censusindia.gov.in/2011census/C-01/DDW18C-01%20MDDS.XLS 2409:4065:E99:37F2:DFA:63C6:B2D2:6EE4 (talk) 07:33, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:16, 26 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lakhipur tehsil demography in trends section 

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message: I have created this section to for us to collaborate on immigration/refugee issues in this article.  Chaipau (talk) 14:34, 25 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Immigration/Refugee 

message: The state demand, Barak_Valley#Statehood_demand, require proper reliable sources.  Who is making this demand, which districts are being demanded, etc.  Right now, most of the citations are about Mamta Banerjee, who is a chief minister from West Bengal, and who is not from Barak Valley.  Most of the news reports are on the NRC issue. If reliable sources are not available, then we will have to delete the entire section, irrespective of the citation-packing.  Pinging . Chaipau (talk) 00:11, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The sources in the latter half of the section do mention the statehood demand (    ). This sentence →  – is not supported by the accompanying source () which isn't reliable either. The first sentence of the article which has reliable sources seems to be SYNTH-ridden. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 12:22, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, these look like reliable sources.  The map is not reliable though. The call is for Cachar, Karimganj and Hailakandi to separate.  The map shows Dima Hasao and Hojai as well. Chaipau (talk) 13:49, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the map needs to be updated or removed. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 14:49, 23 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: , The map you added here includes regions that are not considered not part of Barak state demand, which should only include Cachar, Hailakandi and Karimganj districts, as explicitly written in TNE and The Hindu sources. Please correct it. Pinging . - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 09:04, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: If a map has not been submitted by those demanding a separate state, we should not have one in Wikipedia either.  Making a demand via media is not the same as making a demand officially.  Chaipau (talk) 10:31, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  I forgot the obvious. Thanks for reminding me. This is not an official map.  can you provide an official map, if not it will be removed. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 10:51, 25 July 2022 (UTC)

text: Could you please point us to the source map?  Thanks. Chaipau (talk) 15:30, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:   I have reverted some of your problematic edits. Please discuss your changes here.  Chaipau (talk) 23:25, 18 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  State demand 

message: @IP, these additions have been reverted, since the sources are not verifiable/can't be crosschecked. Please find reliable sources from government agencies for census purpose. And first propose the changes here in Talk:Barak Valley per WP:BRD and WP:CONSENSUS, so that the content is verifiable and without any original researches. Thanks. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:39, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The only changes you made wrt to the sources is this portal, which doesn't seem to be a reliable source portal to begin with. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:46, 24 July 2022 (UTC)

text: Check more. The only portal in the above revision that seems reliable as far as census is concerned is "lsi.gov.in", but then again we would need links to explicit page(s)/article(s) that would support the content. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:53, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the state demands should be attributed to the organisations, not the the entire people.  The organisations naturally would claim that they represent all the people.  But this is not necessarily true.  Some of the organisations could be demanding a separate country, as has happened in the case of the Boro people. And not all the people could be demanding a state.  Chaipau (talk) 17:50, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:58, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  July 2022 

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message: This article has major NPOV and OR issues.  Tagging @Fylindfotberserk.  It is using very non-standard names ("Cachar Valley" for Kachari kingdom, etc.) for one. Chaipau (talk) 15:56, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Please do the needful. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:16, 5 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV issues