Talk:Charles Bowen, Baron Bowen

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Lord Charles Bowen, Baron Bowen was justifiably noted for his many erudite rulings in the British Law Courts.
Perhaps his most incisive and verbally economic observation from a legal and socialogical perspective is as follows:
“The rain it raineth on the just
And also on the unjust fella;
But chiefly on the just, because
The unjust steals the just’s umbrella.”
That says it all really.
A fine brain must have lived beneath that wig.
B.B.,
Dublin
:Variations:
:http://groups.google.com.au/group/soc.culture.canada/msg/45004625f75bd38c?dmode=print has
:: >The rain it falleth on the just
:: >And on the unjust fella
:: >But chiefly on the just,
:: >Because the unjust stole the just's umbrella. 
:
:http://www.gordonmoyes.com/2008/02/08/the-blessings-of-the-rain/ has
::“When it rains, It rains on the just
::And also on the unjust fella;
::But chiefly on the just, because
::The unjust has stolen the just’s umbrella.” (Lord Bowen 1923)
:
:http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071128210736AAvbmhw has
::"Rain falleth upon the just
::And rain falleth upon the unjust
::But more rain falleth upon the just
::Than the unjust fella'
::'cause the unjust steals
::The just's umbrella"
:
:http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.anthropology.paleo/msg/3b8cb2e5199047bc?dmode=print has
:: The rain, it raineth on the Just and the Unjust fella.
:: But chiefly on the Just because
:: The Unjust steals the Just's umbrella.
:
:: The actual quote is:
::
:: 'The rain it raineth on the just
::    And also on the unjust fella:
::  But chiefly on the just, because
::    The unjust steals the just's umbrella.'
::
:: and comes from 'Sichel, Sands of Time' by Charles Bowen, 1st Baron.
:
:: I don't mind so much the inaccuracies in the quote, but the lack of attribution is pretty poor. 
:
:http://home.vicnet.net.au/~rckew/Thoughts.htm has
:: God sends his rain upon the just and upon the unjust fella; but more upon the just because the unjust has pinched the just’s umbrella.’
:
:Emphasis is mine.
:And then, of course, there's the version in the article.
:—DIV (128.250.80.15 (talk) 03:48, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I amended the article's version to Bowen's, per your cit and the external source given in the article. Seems silly to leave it differ.  • Lainagier • talk • 23:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

text: While I would question the use of the word obviously, some of it reads very much like a DNB article. --Bejnar (talk) 03:43, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

text: Part of the text is from a publication now in the public domain, namely: Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). --Bejnar (talk) 03:49, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Quotations

message: Lord Charles Bowen, Baron Bowen was justifiably noted for his many erudite rulings in the British Law Courts.
Perhaps his most incisive and verbally economic observation from a legal and socialogical perspective is as follows:
“The rain it raineth on the just
And also on the unjust fella;
But chiefly on the just, because
The unjust steals the just’s umbrella.”
That says it all really.
A fine brain must have lived beneath that wig.
B.B.,
Dublin
:Variations:
:http://groups.google.com.au/group/soc.culture.canada/msg/45004625f75bd38c?dmode=print has
:: >The rain it falleth on the just
:: >And on the unjust fella
:: >But chiefly on the just,
:: >Because the unjust stole the just's umbrella. 
:
:http://www.gordonmoyes.com/2008/02/08/the-blessings-of-the-rain/ has
::“When it rains, It rains on the just
::And also on the unjust fella;
::But chiefly on the just, because
::The unjust has stolen the just’s umbrella.” (Lord Bowen 1923)
:
:http://au.answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20071128210736AAvbmhw has
::"Rain falleth upon the just
::And rain falleth upon the unjust
::But more rain falleth upon the just
::Than the unjust fella'
::'cause the unjust steals
::The just's umbrella"
:
:http://groups.google.com.au/group/sci.anthropology.paleo/msg/3b8cb2e5199047bc?dmode=print has
:: The rain, it raineth on the Just and the Unjust fella.
:: But chiefly on the Just because
:: The Unjust steals the Just's umbrella.
:
:: The actual quote is:
::
:: 'The rain it raineth on the just
::    And also on the unjust fella:
::  But chiefly on the just, because
::    The unjust steals the just's umbrella.'
::
:: and comes from 'Sichel, Sands of Time' by Charles Bowen, 1st Baron.
:
:: I don't mind so much the inaccuracies in the quote, but the lack of attribution is pretty poor. 
:
:http://home.vicnet.net.au/~rckew/Thoughts.htm has
:: God sends his rain upon the just and upon the unjust fella; but more upon the just because the unjust has pinched the just’s umbrella.’
:
:Emphasis is mine.
:And then, of course, there's the version in the article.
:—DIV (128.250.80.15 (talk) 03:48, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I amended the article's version to Bowen's, per your cit and the external source given in the article. Seems silly to leave it differ.  • Lainagier • talk • 23:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
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message: I rather wonder where the biographical text was copied from. Much of it is obviously not original writing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.118.94.176 (talk) 20:16, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: While I would question the use of the word obviously, some of it reads very much like a DNB article. --Bejnar (talk) 03:43, 20 March 2013 (UTC)

text: Part of the text is from a publication now in the public domain, namely: Chisholm, Hugh, ed. (1911). Encyclopædia Britannica (11th ed.). --Bejnar (talk) 03:49, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  origin of the text? 

message: Why is "Baron Bowen" included as part of the title on this article? --Bejnar (talk) 03:43, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the name should be "Charles, Baron Bowen"; but "Charles Bowen, Baron Bowen" seems better for searching. 94.30.84.71 (talk) 18:07, 8 June 2014 (UTC)
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