Talk:Political groups of the European Parliament/Archive 1

message: (inserting section to prevent thread growing too large) J Logan, I've had a look at your categorisation and I do have a concern. It's not a complaint - you're doing fine work - but I am concerned you're making a rod for your own back. If I understand correctly, you are categorising by party (or group) and by term: for example, Catherine Lalumière is classified under "French PR MEPs serving 1994-1999" and "French PR MEPs serving 1999-2004". I'm concerned this is overcategorization: specifically, a violation of Wikipedia:Overcategorization, even more specifically a violation of WP:OC#NARROW. It's made even worse by the fact that Catherine has not yet been categorized by the category "MEPs serving 1994-1999". It would be more useful to categorize her with the categories "MEPs serving 1994-1999", "MEPs serving 1999-2004" and "French PR MEPs". Since you have put a lot of work in to this I hesitate to bring this up, and if you want to continue then please feel free, but please be advised that a) you will find the numbers go ballistic very quickly, b) time spent overcategorizing is time that could be spent categorizing less combinatorially and c) given that there have been 6 (?) terms and lots of parties, then there are "lots x 6" categories if you continue in this vein, wheras there would be only "lots + 6" categories if you do it the other way. Sorry to be a pain, kind regards, Anameofmyveryown (talk) 01:59, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, did you look at the talk on the WikiProject EU talkpage? I just want to make sure people can get at them via constituency, time they served and political party. It kind of work kind of so far as there are a decent amount in each category - except for the term, for example Pottering has been there since 79 so has 6 categories saying almost the same thing. I think perhaps if I change pre-2004 categories into one grouping as we don't have articles for all of those and that would drop 6 to 2. Perhaps? - J Logan t: 12:25, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
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EDG    	64                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  	63                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          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EDA    	22                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  	22                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          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COM    	44                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  	48                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                          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EN     	x                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   	x                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           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FE     	x                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   	x                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           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ERA    	x                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   	x                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           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UPE    	x                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                   	x                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                           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Notes  	1979 = after the European elections (EE);1981 = following the first EP elections in Greece on 8 October 1981; 1984 = after the second EE; 1987 = sitution 31.12.1987. First European Elections in Spain were on 10 June 1987 and in Portugal on 19 July 1987; 1984 = after the third EE; 1993 = situation in January 1993 following the mergers between EPP and the EDG in May 1992 and between the EUL and PES (sic?) in January 1993; 1994 = after the fourth EE; 1995 = situation in January 1995 after the latest EU enlargement; 1997 = situation in march 1997; 2000 = situation in April 2000	1979 = after the European elections (EE);1981 = following the first EP elections in Greece on 8 October 1981; 1984 = after the second EE; 1987 = sitution 31.12.1987. First European Elections in Spain were on 10 June 1987 and in Portugal on 19 July 1987; 1984 = after the third EE; 1993 = situation in January 1993 following the mergers between EPP and the EDG in May 1992 and between the EUL and PES (sic?) in January 1993; 1994 = after the fourth EE; 1995 = situation in January 1995 after the latest EU enlargement; 1997 = situation in march 1997; 2000 = situation in April 2000	1979 = after the European elections (EE);1981 = following the first EP elections in Greece on 8 October 1981; 1984 = after the second EE; 1987 = sitution 31.12.1987. First European Elections in Spain were on 10 June 1987 and in Portugal on 19 July 1987; 1984 = after the third EE; 1993 = situation in January 1993 following the mergers between EPP and the EDG in May 1992 and between the EUL and PES (sic?) in January 1993; 1994 = after the fourth EE; 1995 = situation in January 1995 after the latest EU enlargement; 1997 = situation in march 1997; 2000 = situation in April 2000	1979 = after the European elections (EE);1981 = following the first EP elections in Greece on 8 October 1981; 1984 = after the second EE; 1987 = sitution 31.12.1987. First European Elections in Spain were on 10 June 1987 and in Portugal on 19 July 1987; 1984 = after the third EE; 1993 = situation in January 1993 following the mergers between EPP and the EDG in May 1992 and between the EUL and PES (sic?) in January 1993; 1994 = after the fourth EE; 1995 = situation in January 1995 after the latest EU enlargement; 1997 = situation in march 1997; 2000 = situation in April 2000	1979 = after the European elections (EE);1981 = following the first EP elections in Greece on 8 October 1981; 1984 = after the second EE; 1987 = sitution 31.12.1987. First European Elections in Spain were on 10 June 1987 and in Portugal on 19 July 1987; 1984 = after the third EE; 1993 = situation in January 1993 following the mergers between EPP and the EDG in May 1992 and between the EUL and PES (sic?) in January 1993; 1994 = after the fourth EE; 1995 = situation in January 1995 after the latest EU enlargement; 1997 = situation in march 1997; 2000 = situation in April 2000	1979 = after the European elections (EE);1981 = following the first EP elections in Greece on 8 October 1981; 1984 = after the second EE; 1987 = sitution 31.12.1987. First European Elections in Spain were on 10 June 1987 and in Portugal on 19 July 1987; 1984 = after the third EE; 1993 = situation in January 1993 following the mergers between EPP and the EDG in May 1992 and between the EUL and PES (sic?) in January 1993; 1994 = after the fourth EE; 1995 = situation in January 1995 after the latest EU enlargement; 1997 = situation in march 1997; 2000 = situation in April 2000	1979 = after the European elections (EE);1981 = following the first EP elections in Greece on 8 October 1981; 1984 = after the second EE; 1987 = sitution 31.12.1987. First European Elections in Spain were on 10 June 1987 and in Portugal on 19 July 1987; 1984 = after the third EE; 1993 = situation in January 1993 following the mergers between EPP and the EDG in May 1992 and between the EUL and PES (sic?) in January 1993; 1994 = after the fourth EE; 1995 = situation in January 1995 after the latest EU enlargement; 1997 = situation in march 1997; 2000 = situation in April 2000	1979 = after the European elections (EE);1981 = following the first EP elections in Greece on 8 October 1981; 1984 = after the second EE; 1987 = sitution 31.12.1987. First European Elections in Spain were on 10 June 1987 and in Portugal on 19 July 1987; 1984 = after the third EE; 1993 = situation in January 1993 following the mergers between EPP and the EDG in May 1992 and between the EUL and PES (sic?) in January 1993; 1994 = after the fourth EE; 1995 = situation in January 1995 after the latest EU enlargement; 1997 = situation in march 1997; 2000 = situation in April 2000	1979 = after the European elections (EE);1981 = following the first EP elections in Greece on 8 October 1981; 1984 = after the second EE; 1987 = sitution 31.12.1987. First European Elections in Spain were on 10 June 1987 and in Portugal on 19 July 1987; 1984 = after the third EE; 1993 = situation in January 1993 following the mergers between EPP and the EDG in May 1992 and between the EUL and PES (sic?) in January 1993; 1994 = after the fourth EE; 1995 = situation in January 1995 after the latest EU enlargement; 1997 = situation in march 1997; 2000 = situation in April 2000	1979 = after the European elections (EE);1981 = following the first EP elections in Greece on 8 October 1981; 1984 = after the second EE; 1987 = sitution 31.12.1987. First European Elections in Spain were on 10 June 1987 and in Portugal on 19 July 1987; 1984 = after the third EE; 1993 = situation in January 1993 following the mergers between EPP and the EDG in May 1992 and between the EUL and PES (sic?) in January 1993; 1994 = after the fourth EE; 1995 = situation in January 1995 after the latest EU enlargement; 1997 = situation in march 1997; 2000 = situation in April 2000
Source 	"European Union: Power and Policy-Making" second edition,  Published 2001 by Routledge, edited by Jeremy John Richardson, page 125, "Table 6.2 Party Groups in the European Parliament, 1979-2000"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  	"European Union: Power and Policy-Making" second edition,  Published 2001 by Routledge, edited by Jeremy John Richardson, page 125, "Table 6.2 Party Groups in the European Parliament, 1979-2000"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  	"European Union: Power and Policy-Making" second edition,  Published 2001 by Routledge, edited by Jeremy John Richardson, page 125, "Table 6.2 Party Groups in the European Parliament, 1979-2000"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  	"European Union: Power and Policy-Making" second edition,  Published 2001 by Routledge, edited by Jeremy John Richardson, page 125, "Table 6.2 Party Groups in the European Parliament, 1979-2000"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  	"European Union: Power and Policy-Making" second edition,  Published 2001 by Routledge, edited by Jeremy John Richardson, page 125, "Table 6.2 Party Groups in the European Parliament, 1979-2000"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  	"European Union: Power and Policy-Making" second edition,  Published 2001 by Routledge, edited by Jeremy John Richardson, page 125, "Table 6.2 Party Groups in the European Parliament, 1979-2000"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  	"European Union: Power and Policy-Making" second edition,  Published 2001 by Routledge, edited by Jeremy John Richardson, page 125, "Table 6.2 Party Groups in the European Parliament, 1979-2000"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  	"European Union: Power and Policy-Making" second edition,  Published 2001 by Routledge, edited by Jeremy John Richardson, page 125, "Table 6.2 Party Groups in the European Parliament, 1979-2000"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  	"European Union: Power and Policy-Making" second edition,  Published 2001 by Routledge, edited by Jeremy John Richardson, page 125, "Table 6.2 Party Groups in the European Parliament, 1979-2000"                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  	"European Union: Power and Policy-Making" second edition,  Published 2001 by Routledge, edited by Jeremy John Richardson, page 125, "Table 6.2 Party Groups in the European Parliament, 1979-2000"
- just let me park this here for a few days whilst I check the figures against other sources. Anameofmyveryown (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 01:13, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good but a tad complicated on the eyes, I think perhaps we should also do one for percentages as it would be misleading if people attempted to use it as a quick ref on their performance. Also, perhaps if we group some together more, like have the EPP and ED next to each other and combine the cols when the merge, might slow the flow more, what do you think? Also, do we know the colours for the older parties? Would be good to shade the cells to make it easier on the eyes. - J Logan t: 12:19, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Overview thru time