Talk:Space Mountain (Magic Kingdom)

message: In the 2009 edition of Birnbaum's Guide to Walt Disney World, it was reported that Space Mountain would be closed for renovation for most of 2009. This was released in October and it is the official travel guide for WDW. However, as noted, WDW has yet to post any refurb info for SM on their site as of now. Considering that Birnbaum's is the official guide, published with Disney's blessing, I'd imagine that there is a pretty good chance that SM will be closing in 2009 for a long renovation. Just thought I'd pass the info on.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beaker781 (talk • contribs) 05:06, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That said, the Birnbaum guides are sent to press well in advance, and even being official they are prone to error, especially if things change after the publication date. They are also prone to Disney changing its mind well after the guides are on store shelves. While there is a lot of evidence pointing to a closure, including recent reports that Disney's vacation planning guides don't even mention the attraction, the fact is nothing is official yet. I'm sure the current economic situation is not lost on Disney, and I'm sure they've given thought to how many reservations will be postponed or canceled when word gets out that Space Mountain is indeed closed.  --McDoobAU93 (talk) 13:25, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refurb Info in Birnbaum's Guide 

message: I'm adding a discussion for this, even though I added the item to the article myself. Based on Cypress Gardens closing down all its rides, Space Mountain currently would be the oldest operating roller coaster in Florida, and RCDB confirms this. However, based on how RCDB handled the closure of Disneyland's Space Mountain, it may not have that attribute for long. When they closed down the Disneyland version, RCDB indicated that it was now a "past roller coaster" since they were swapping out all the track. Now, even though the ride profile is identical to the original, the 2005 version of Disneyland's SM is a different ride. Since Disney has all but confirmed (i.e., they haven't said this verbatim) that the Florida version starting this coming Sunday is a full track replacement, I'm thinking the same thing will occur. Should we go ahead and remove the item, or leave it be pending further study, or what? (Incidentally, next on the list is Scorpion at Busch Gardens Tampa Bay, opened in May 1980.)  --McDoobAU93 (talk) 17:51, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Also on the "oldest florida coaster" bit... According to the Wikipedia article on Cypress Gardens, the earliest of their rollercoasters didn't open until 2004, nearly 30 years after Space Mountain, so even if Cypress Gardens were still open, Space Mountain would still be much older than any of its coasters. PurpleChez (talk) 17:53, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  The coasters at Miracle Strip Amusement Park predate Space Mountain, so it's only the oldest operating coaster, not oldest overall.  --  Zanimum (talk) 18:40, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oldest Florida Coaster 

message: Could you still ride the TTA during Space Mountain's renovation?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.163.63.16 (talk) 14:05, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: On and off. It was kept open as much as possible but there was some down time. 81.138.108.33 (talk) 15:16, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: TTA and Space Mountain

message: The page is automatically converting the length of the track into meters. If you do the math yourself, it comes out to 971.0m, not 2211.9m 24.252.140.6 (talk) 13:26, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Math error 

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message: Does the "incidents" section merit inclusion in the article? As the section clearly states, none of the incidents had anything to do with the attraction itself (e.g., an accident or injury sustained on the ride)...they were all preexisting conditions or "natural causes" (that probably could have happened anywhere). It just seems to be included to be sensationalistic, unless there's anything that can be added that would "connect the dots" (such as a conclusion that the ride experience brought on the incident). More to the point, none of the incidents point to any problems, malfunctions, or negligence (either on the part of Disney or the rider), so they don't seem to have any relevance to the attraction beyond coincidence. Thoughts? 70.91.35.27 (talk) 19:54, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: There should be a link to List of incidents at Walt Disney World instead of the listing here. The listing of such incidents is notable, but it does not belong in the main article since there is an article that covers the entire resort complex. Feel free to be bold and have at it.  --McDoobAU93 19:23, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done! Thanks for the assist :) 70.91.35.27 (talk) 19:52, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incidents? 

message: While the primary source for the current article claims that Space Mountain was abandoned after Walt Disney died and wasn't revived until after Walt Disney World's opening, it doesn't actually seem to be the case. In two Pre-Opening brochures, they feature Space Mountain as an upcoming attraction.
•On the cover of a Pre-Opening brochure, the features art for Magic Kingdom features a white building with similar features to Space Mountain. https://www.retrowdw.com/pictorial-souvenir/wdw-pre-opening/complete-edition-69/#gallery/19bb1d8974678b3f62aad82125aee62b/2472
•The same brochure features concept art of Space Mountain https://www.retrowdw.com/pictorial-souvenir/wdw-pre-opening/complete-edition-69/#gallery/19bb1d8974678b3f62aad82125aee62b/2474
•Another brochure features a passage in the Tomorrowland section announcing the "spectacular Space Mountain"https://www.retrowdw.com/pictorial-souvenir/wdw-pre-opening/preview-edition/#gallery/1a91a2a22d907bbeae912de606aa1d98/2489
And a model from the Preview Center showed what can be considered an early design for Space as it's a conical-esque building with tall spires. 
•https://www.retrowdw.com/wp-content/gallery/concept-art-models/magic-kingdom/mkmodelc1970_20120521_1043515787.jpg
While the concept models could be conjecture, the two passages in the brochures show evidence that Space Mountain was still being developed before 1971, just for WDW instead of Disneyland. At the very least, this should be acknowledged in both the Magic Kingdom article and the general Space Mountain article since both passages are identical. 8934TLMK (talk) 02:51, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development of Space Wasn't Abandoned After Walt's Death