Talk:Frances Oldham Kelsey

message: The first two sentences of the Birth and Education section currently read "Born in Cobble Hill, British Columbia,[3] Kelsey attended St. Margaret's School from 1928 - 1931 in the provincial capital, graduating at age 15.[4] From 1930–1931, she attended Victoria College (now University of Victoria)."
The dates given for her attendance and graduation from St. Margaret's contradict other information in the article. Since Frances was born in 1914, a graduation at age 15 could not have occurred in 1931. Instead, it would have been in 1929 or, at the latest, 1930. Additionally, per the current dates in the article, she would have been attending St. Margaret's and Victoria College simultaneously from 1930-1931. My best guess is she attended St. Margaret's from 1928-1930 (rather than 1928-1931), since that single change would be consistent/compatible with the rest of the current information in the article. However, it is also possible that her graduation age or attendance years at Victoria College are incorrect. Without more information, I cannot say for sure. Poemisaglock (talk) 00:51, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  School Timeline Inconsistency 

message: I rewrote this article after looking up information on thalimide. It is pretty choppy - needs a more consistent style and smoother transitions. Should have enough references for a living person now. Trödel 07:02, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm happy with it now - removing the copyedit notice Trödel 02:10, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite 

message: I nominated this article as a "Good Article" - please comment on any objections or suggestions here. Trödel 02:14, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: promoted well done to all editors Gnangarra 13:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Article Nomination 

message: === Additional Info ===
Dr Kelsey was born July 24 1914 not June 24 1914 please allow me to make the correction and stop reverting to the incorrect birthdate.
MrAndreae (talk) 02:06, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Research 

message: Dr Kelsey was born July 24 1914 not June 24 1914 please allow me to make the correction and stop reverting to the incorrect birthdate.
MrAndreae (talk) 02:06, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional Info 

message: Google Book Search has a whole copy of an old Life Magazine coverstory on the Thalidamide tragedy and Dr. Kelsey.  You can find the article here .  It looks like it might have a lot of good information to incorporate into the article. Remember (talk) 21:23, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Another source

message: Under the section "Birth and Education", a sentence reads as follows: "Geiling assumed that Frances was a man, but Frances accepted the position rather than clarifying her gender first,[3] and began working for Geiling in 1936."  The word "gender" should be changed to "sex".  Sex refers to the biological form of a female/woman, whereas gender refers to the characteristics of femininity or masculinity.  I corrected this sentence this morning, but it was changed back.  The footnote supports this when it states, "Kelsey asked her professor at McGill if she should wire back and explain that Frances with an 'e' is female...Bren (2006)."  Kelsey didn't clarify that she was a female (sex), not feminine (gender).  Clarifying her sex would entail saying, "I'm a female/woman".  Clarifying her gender would entail saying, "I'm feminine".  Gender is simply not the correct word to use.  Please accept this correction.  Someone stated, "sex reads too awkward...".  It doesn't matter how you "think" it reads, gender is simply not the correct word.  Get your mind out of the gutter and stick with the correct facts, please.  Thank you. (69.140.54.3 (talk) 01:02, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sex or gender is equally correct - her biology wasn't really in question, it was any sort of femininity.  She's a cisgender individual, so stating that her "gender" is female rather than male isn't really all that different from saying her "sex" is female (both are accurate).  Is there any evidence that Dr. Kelsey identified as anything but female?  She identified as "Dr." not "Ms." to be sure, but that's not the question at hand.  Whether she dodged sexism by confusion over her sex or her gender is kind of a moot point, so the article is free to use the equally accurate term that's less likely to be misunderstood.  73.19.23.200 (talk) 16:22, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect word 

message: I added the bit about prenatal fluoride as an example of how the 1962 law can cut both ways. Ray  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pawpawseed66 (talk • contribs) 19:17, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be appropriate for the article on the law. However, her only relationship to the law is that the thalidomide episode created an environment that helped the law get passed. --Trödel 20:01, 13 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pre Natal Flouride 

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