Talk:Jochebed

message: according to some Jewish traditions, Yocheved was born on the way down to Egypt as Jacob's family was passing though the border. I believe this should also be included in the article. Leppi 10:30, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 'Israel' is another name for Jacob, and that is the sense that it is used in here (that is also where the link points to). The ancestors of Jacob (Abraham and Isaac) were never oppressed with labor in Egypt. - Lindert (talk) 17:09, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: September 2007

message: This section needs cleanup work by somebody who understands Hebrew genealogy.  Although the two family trees shown in the article appear different by the standards of Western genealogists (from Europe or cultures derived therefrom), there is no significant difference between them from a Hebrew viewpoint.  The insertion of an extra unnamed generation between Levi and his daughter is unimportant.  Ancient Hebrew does not have separate words for relationships like "father" versus "grandfather" and "daughter" verses "granddaughter".  (Which relations are distinguished with different words varies considerably between languages and cultures -- see kinship.)  Whether she was Levi's direct daughter or (what we would call) his granddaughter is neither here nor there; I'm not sure it's even possible to articulate such a distinction in Hebrew without telling in detail the story of her conception and birth, and it certainly isn't a difference that would normally be clarified in any Hebrew genealogy.  I have not studied the mentioned texts in detail on this point, so I can't say for certain whether there is any meaningful discrepancy on the matter, but if there is the family trees as shown are not a valid way to explain it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonadab (talk • contribs) 00:35, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Family Tree

message: Can someone edit this page to correct its inaccuracies?
- All Jews are Israelites but not all Israelites are Jews.
  References in the article:
  - "As Moses grew up Jochebed gave Moses all the traditional Jewish education and knowledge, ensuring his upbringing was Jewish. As result, he could not bear the injustice done by Egyptians on the Jews . Moses convinced the Pharaoh to amend his oppressive laws. His behavior made him popular among the Jews ." 
  - The above statements are inaccurate and should be changed from Jewish to Israelites. 
Jewish peoples are descendants of only one of the 12 (+1) tribes of Israel (Judah) and Moses himself was of the tribe of Levi. He would have been educated as an Israelite which may be the same as current Jewish tradition and education but not Jewish.
RaptorCon (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 19:03, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moses (and Jochebed) was an Israelite of the tribe of Levi not Jewish of the tribe of Judah 

message: My understanding is that in the Biblical era the words father and mother often referred to ancestors and likewise son/daughter refer to descendants.  For example, in the New Testament I believe Joseph was called "Son of David" (referencing his distant ancestor King David) even though his actual father was either Jacob or Heli (depending on what Gospel you read).  Shouldn't this mean that we should be careful in calling Jochebed the daughter of Levi since that passage in Numbers may be a mere reference to her descent from Levi rather than being a direct daughter?  Emperor001 (talk) 15:50, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Father/daughter

message: Christian female saints from the Old Testament,Muslim female saints,Islamic figures,Muslim female saints from the Old Testament have been removed as categories. Per WP:CATV Categorization of articles must be verifiable. It should be clear from verifiable information in the article why it was placed in each of its categories. The article does not source the claim that this person is a saint, whether Christian or Muslim. Per  WP:CATDEF A central concept used in categorizing articles is that of the defining characteristics of a subject of the article. A defining characteristic is one that reliable sources commonly and consistently define the subject as having". It is not a defining characteristic of this person that she is an "Islamic figure."Smeat75 (talk) 00:11, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of unverified categories