Talk:Saint Laurent Boulevard

message: I roll my eyes in disbelief at all the people who refer to themselves as Montreal Anglos but have never heard the Main referred to as St. Lawrence Boulevard.  It is the _only_ designation I have ever used for it when speaking English and, in fact, when I hear English-speakers refer to it as "boulevard Saint-Laurent", I take that as a tell-tale sign that these people are not native Montrealers because they are oblivious to the thoroughfare's historical English name.
Mordecai Richler, Irving Layton, or Leonard Cohen almost certainly never referred to it as anything other than St. Lawrence Boulevard when speaking English.  I think the designation is a part of Montreal's heritage. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.131.160.109 (talk • contribs) .
Exactly. I cannot believe everyone is conjecturing! Spend five minutes looking at an encyclopedia before trying to muck up this one! The street was originally named Boul St. Laurent, then known as St. Lawrence Boulevard and the Main. Recently, i.e., Quiet Revolution times, the name reverted back to the original. As a Cultural institution, it is known as Saint Lawrence Boulevard (books and popular imagination). 'To tourists and plateau-hipsters its St. Laurent'. 
While Saint Lawrence Boulevard amassed so much cultural history it no longer exists 'as such'. This is a serious issue. The reason why the name changed back to French was to protect French heritage and language in Quebec. By accepting this change, we are, in a way, rewriting the past and changing what 'happened'.
Perhaps there should be separate entries for St. Laurent and St. Lawrence Boulevard; one as contemporary, the other as a cultural and memory space. Gutmania 21:09, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saint Lawrence Boulevard 

message: On the topic of the Main's English/French division the following is written:
"This distinction is not as strong; people of all linguistic groups now inhabit both sides of the island." I do not think this is true. I would like this changed. There is more mixing (like in the West Island) but it is limited. Both groups are still oblivious to each other's culture. Gutmania 21:09, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Amen! / Ainsi-soit-il! Everyone seems to have neglected that most people either say simply "Saint-Laurent", the latter either in French or English since in both languages we mostly drop street/rue/boul./blvd./ etc. Most of the English speakers living near S.L. are not born and bred Montreal Anglos (of B.I. stock or not), so the point of the original name (used by those who used to live there) is moot. We can all agree "Saint Lawrence" refers mostly to the river as in "the Saint Lawrence" in anyone's English. The official designation for the thoroughfare should be used, with the historical names FOLLOWING. Until there is a study on who says what in what language whether they're code-switching or not and what their age, ethnicity, neighborhood, etc. are. It's not simple, so please don't obfuscate the complex reality of it all by imposing a view, not anecdotal evidence. So who's up for a professional study? CJ Withers 08:44, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Montreal Demography

message: The following PDF document contains the list of official Montreal street names:
http://ville.montreal.qc.ca/pls/portal/docs/page/toponymie_fr/media/documents/Rues_Territoire_Montreal.pdf
The official name for the street we are talking about is "Boulevard Saint-Laurent".  Which is what all the street signs say, come to think of it.
The fact that the street has changed names in history and that not everybody uses the official name should be noted in the article, though, but the current name is obsolete and wrong nonetheless.  Likewise, there is no such thing as a "Rue Université"; it is officially "Rue University".
Not to mention it seems a little fishy to me to base the entire discussion on "I always call it this way!!"  "No way!  You must not be a real Montrealer then!"  "This is how my grandma always called it!"  Etc.  Not very objective by what I would expect to be Wikipedia standards.  David t 22:43, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I support a move. Saint Jacques Street has the french name but with the word street. René Lévesque Boulevard is the same way (certainly not using Dorchester, even if some die-hard anglos might refer to it as such.) Saint-Laurent Boulevard makes sense to me. Any good reason to oppose? TheMightyQuill 09:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

text: When was the name changed?  If the street was called "Saint Lawrence Boulevard" for most of its history then that fact coupled with the fact that this is the English Wikipedia might suggest that the title should remain as it stands.  More importantly the date of the official name change should perhaps be mentioned in the article itself. Spebudmak 23:14, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual toponomy 

message: If I could move it myself I would, but, if we are to stick with the French nomenclature, it should be Saint-Laurent, with a dash, trait-d'union, whatever you want to call it. Without it, it's just not correct.--Boffob (talk) 01:33, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title of the article... 

message: Please note that virtually all, if not all, articles that link to boulevard Saint-Laurent are either Ottawa articles or Gatineau articles. I eliminated any articles (2) that referred to Montreal by referring them to Saint Laurent Boulevard. My appologies about the valium, see Talk:Saint Laurent Boulevard#Moved section above. Peter Horn 01:28, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  boulevard Saint-Laurent vs Saint Laurent Boulevard 

message: The article says "Montreal featured the third largest population of Yiddish speakers in North America, after New York City and Buenos Aires; by 1930, 60,000 Yiddish speakers lived on or around The Main." Since when is Buenos Aires in North America? Gruguuru (talk) 23:18, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
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