Talk:Linguistic history of Spanish

message: This is a work in progress.  The History of Spanish is almost entirely about the cultural (i.e. non-linguistic) history of the Spanish language and that is why this page is being created.--Hraefen 23:58, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

message: *This info was originally in the article, but I think it belongs here instead.  The inclusion standards are too detailed to be of interest to most readers.--Hraefen 21:05, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Explanation of etymology inclusion standards

message: *Once the lists of Spanish words of each individual language are "complete" (i.e. after I'm done going through the "Breve diccionario") most if not all of the languages will have their own page, similar to the way in which the English etymology pages currently work.  Definitions and detailed etymologies can then be given for each word.  Until then, the Spanish words will remain undefined.--Hraefen 19:00, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Further explanation/ lack of definitions for spanish words

message: The sections are not currently in the order in which they ultimately will be.--Hraefen 00:05, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Order of sections

message: I don't have a source for this right now... Initial Latin /f/ changed to /h/ and then to zero, but not before /u/ (often [w]), as in fuego (Latin focus I think, with /o/ diphthongized to /ue/ as usual). Latin /f/ was also bilabial, not labiodental (therefore actually [φ], not [f]). The closest thing I can remember is the allophonic alternation in Japanese: Old Jap. /p/ → /h/, pronounced [ç] before /i/ and /j/, [φ] before /u/, and /h/ elsewhere. In both cases the labial element seems to preserve the labial feature in the allophonic realization of /h/. Just my 2 cents. --Pablo D. Flores (Talk) 18:12, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Mmmm, what about Humo (Fume)?? ... Mariano(t/c) 08:08, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Initial F- 

message: During the Muslim rule in Spain, the majority of the population was Muslim and spoke Arabic. So does that legacy last today? Other than Latin, is Arabic the largest contributor to Spanish? Stallions2010 20:42, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arabic? 

message: From the article:
:While unvoiced intervocalic consonants were often voiced, many voiced intervocalic consonants were simply dropped from words altogether through a process called elision. This process usually affected voiced intervocalic consonants (b, d and g) it also sometimes affected unvoiced intervocalic consonants (see mascar < masticare below).
Would it not make sense if these "unvoiced" Latin consonants were first voiced before ellided?  For example, Andrés Bello attests to an "archaic" vosotros conjugation with a D where Latin had a T:
: Latin: vos amatis, stabatis
: Attested by Bello: vosotros amades, estábades 
: Modern Spanish: vosotros amáis, estábais
–Andyluciano 17:38, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ellision of T 

message: For discussion of the merge, please see Talk:History of the Spanish language so that the discussion can take place on one page rather than two.--Hraefen Talk 16:30, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed merger into [[History of the Spanish language]]

message: This section needs to be improved. See corresponding article :Arabic influence on Spanish language--Guzman ramirez 13:42, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Arabic influence on Spanish language