Talk:Nonviolent revolution

message: This article represents a refactoring of information deemed not to fit into Color revolution, and will also maintain a distinction from nonviolent resistance in that it refers specifically to changes in government leadership, and a distinction from bloodless coup (hm, thought that would have existed) as well.
My intent is to have a broader focus beginning with Mahatma Gandhi and Indian independence and proceed chronologically through some of the revolutions and quasi-revolutions that were rejected as extraneous to the first article. There will, necessarily, be a summary section on color revolutions with a standard Main article: Color revolution notice. A second subtype will be People power, another name often used for non-violent revolutions.
After I've gotten the rough outline in place you're invited, if so inclined, to help me with that article. --Dhartung | Talk 20:24, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intent 

message: I considered nonviolent but Google tells me that's used less commonly than non-violent, and I don't think it looks right anyway. I'll create a redirect with the other spelling. --Dhartung | Talk 20:35, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: I think it's worth making it clear that there is involvement by US government agencies and private neo-conservative organizations in most of the actual and attempted revolutions in former Soviet satellite states, but not in most of the others around the world.
There's a good argument that the distinction is actually politically/financially motivated (the US supports revolutions on behalf of factions that support free trade, neoliberal economics, and pro-US international policy, and opposes those that challenge governments with similar politics--see particularly Venezuela vs. Peru), but that might be original research.
What is not original research is to list the countries where USAID, USNDP, the National Endowment for Democracy, the International Republican Institute, the National Democratic Institute for International Affairs, and similar organizations have been involved in the revolutions. 
The idea that the CIA or people like the Scaife family are deliberately attempting to stage coups d'etat in US-unfriendly nations is speculation (although it can be attributed to specific sources, ranging from The Guardian to some of the CIS governments), but the fact that these organizations have supported some of the recent popular revolutionary movements is itself indisputable.
The challenge is to write a section that sticks to the facts, and avoids presenting a POV slant.
Speaking of POV, it also might be worth mentioning that Soros, whose involvement in many of these movements (including some that the US has opposed) and funding of some of these same organizations is well-known,  has been accused of being a US pawn by leftists, and a fanatical leftist by rightists. Avoiding POV will probably be even harder here, but still worth pursuing.
Unfortunately, I don't have references at hand, but I'll try to write a stub that someone else can fill in. --76.204.77.196 (talk) 10:37, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  US Involvement 

message: Is it worth mentioning George W. Bush's attempt to characterize the US-led overthrow of Saddam Hussein and the recent elections as a "Purple Revolution," directly tying it to the nonviolent "color revolutions" in former Soviet states and satellites?
As far as I know, no one but neo-conservative commentators has gone along with this, but it's still probably notable.
It may also be notable that many leftist critics have pointed out that "purple" is a synonym for "imperial," tying this in with US imperalist involvement in these revolutions in general. (But it's probably not notable that "Purple Revolution" only makes me think of Prince....) --76.204.77.196 (talk) 10:42, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iraq's "Purple Revolution" 

message: Shouldn't the revolution in the GDR 1989 be mentioned?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.141.248.124 (talk) 15:42, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nonviolent revolution in the GDR 

message: I know the Glorious Revolution wasn't really bloodless, but it is called that. shouldn't it be mentioned? 67.176.160.47 (talk) 08:25, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  bloodless revolution 

message: I was thinking, and imho, there is a difference something being bloodless and something being non-violent. nonviolence, especially when used in association with Gandhi, implies using nonviolent tactics, which excludes even the threat of force. In fact. if a nonviolent revolutionary movement faces violent counterrevolutionaries, there may be blood, in what is considered a nonviolent revolution. Bloodless on the other hand means a lack of deaths, or other casualties. so I think bloodless coup should have it's own article. 67.176.160.47 (talk) 17:44, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  bloodless vs. non-violence 

message: How was the 'Salt Satyagraha' a revolution?
And the Bulldozer Revolution involved property damage and rioting, how was it non-violent?
Wnjr (talk) 15:37, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-violent non-revolutions, and violent non-violent revolutions 

message: The main theorist of nonviolent revolution, Gandhi, is not even mentioned. Also, he was an outspoken admirer of Lenin.
Speaking of which, Lenon and the 60' counterculture movement on the USA were probably the mst culturally influential movement for nonviolent revolution in the world.
Furthermore, this article reads like anti-communist propaganda from the header, based on these omissions and the emphasis it gives.
Even further, many of this so-called "revolutions" actually included looting, rioting, attack on security forces, and destruction of private and public property.
And if we are to be coherent, the sometimes called Second October Revolution would belong there with the 1989 Tiananmen Square protests.
If anything, this should be corrected at least to show a meager attempt at some neutrality, no? --190.173.248.89 (talk) 07:24, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are you kidding? 

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thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Nonviolent revolution]] 

message: Please see Talk:Nonviolent_resistance#Bahrain. Thank you. Mohamed CJ (talk) 13:15, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bahrain 

message: Please add to newly created Draft:Pacifism in France, Draft:Pacifism in Germany, and Draft:Pacifism in the United States. Thanks. M2545 (talk) 12:46, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
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message: I can't take the time to do it, but I think the article's authoritativeness and specificity would be improved by drawing upon, and including references to, the work of Erica Chenoweth.  She's an academic with a background in military analysis who was converted to the superiority of nonviolent resistance by conducting over 100 case studies.  A rigorously academic book she co-authored, Why Civil Reistance Works: The Strategic Logic of Nonviolent Conflict, has won several awards. Justmetwo2 (talk) 23:21, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consider adding Erica Chenoweth's work 

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message: This article appears to be severely in need of updates. The Arab Spring is not mentioned except for the section on Bahrain, nor is the Euromaidan. The section on current movements also needs to be updated to remove protests such as the Occupy movement which are no longer happening and added new ones such as the resistance to the coup in Myanmar. - Presidentman talk · contribs (Talkback) 03:11, 30 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updates needed 

message: Are you seriously putting the French revolution as the very first image for everyone to see on the "Bloodless coups" site
I get that it's there due to the series on "Revolution" but there could be a better image set for this specific page, or in addition and prior to the Series' mention
Seems kind of ironic to me
Maj Swag (talk) 05:59, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
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