Talk:Corrib gas project

message: Someone added information about a strong bad scent product (such as ethanethiol)being added to the otherwise colorless and odorless gas (so that leaks can be detected by smell before an explosion occurs).  It is rarely added to gas when it is in this type of transport pipeline (I couldn't find an example on google).  There is also an extensive rebuttal to this over at the Royal Dutch Shell talk page.  I feel that the statement that it is not being added is POV because infact it is almost never added to this type of pipeline.  --24.137.104.16 02:17, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Bad scent product

message: This needs updated with the recent (Oct 06) protests and Garda presence at the construction site. I haven't time to do so myself at the moment. zoney  ♣ talk 15:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add more info 

message: http://www.westernpeople.ie/news/story.asp?j=36526, http://www.mayonews.ie/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1511&Itemid=38, http://www.labour.ie/youth/campaigns/index/20050804113248.html, http://www.finegael.ie/news/index.cfm/type/details/nkey/21800/pkey/653, http://www.indymedia.ie/article/76360, http://www.corribsos.com/index.php?id=0.1&type=page
Lapsed Pacifist 13:46, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you integrate these into the text of the article please? Valenciano 12:41, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: As both articles about the controversy, I would like to merge them. Alternatively, move all controversy information from this article to the Corrib gas controversy and describe here only the technical side of this project.Beagel (talk) 19:11, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have already moved what was a lengthy section on controversy there. Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 13:38, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would support a merge. The Corrib gas project article to a large degree seems to deal with the conflict, environmental, legislatory, planning, protest, and other controversial issues in itself. So there is probably some duplication with the Corrib gas controversy article that could be rationalised with a merge. Either merge cthe controversy article back here. Or merge the main bulk of the "controversy" coverage from this article over to the controversy article. Either way, there is some overlap/redundancy that could probably be reduced. Guliolopez (talk) 16:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I prefer your last proposal, bringing the rest of the controversy over here. Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 08:22, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Lapsed Pacifist. Bring everything into this article and make Corrib gas controversy a redirect. ww2censor (talk) 14:30, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: What on earth is the explanation for blanking excerpts of the highly critical An Bord Pleanála report, the highly critical Accufacts report, blanking a large chunk of the description of the opposition to the project, and deleting the link to the highly critical More4 documentary?
Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 15:38, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Pleanála report doesn't need to be fully quoted; the Accufacts report needs an establishment of WP:V, I removed it until that occurs (publicinquiry.ie doen't appear to be WP:V); I'm not aware of the link to the More 4 documentary. Please do not revert entire changes if you have issues with a few links. Thanks! Fin©™ 15:57, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blanking 

message: In the six months since I edited this article, the wholesale blanking of links and removal of context often truncated sentences, rendering them meaningless, without relevant punctuation, etc. Grammar and syntax problems abounded, but I reckon I've caught most of them. If anyone really feels the need to remove content, please make sure not to leave a mess behind you. Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 18:16, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Been a while 

message: It is truly amazing that if you want to read anything about the elected political opponents to this project you have to go to another article .
As to where anything about the safety reviews is on Wikepedia ? That's a good question .  Garda40 (talk) 20:13, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Good points, Garda. Lapsed Pacifist (talk) 10:17, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that there is an entire article that deals with opposition to the project it seems not unreasonable that interested readers might have to go there for details of political opponents. Or do you really think that there should be two articles on opposition to the scheme -- one of which purports to be an article about the project? Before the "blanking" (good use of an nice emotive term there), the article read as an article about opposition to the scheme with nothing of any substance about the project itself. I cannot believe it is better to have it like that. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 02:04, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Blanking  

message: Here are my initial thoughts for the Corrib Gas Project page:
1 - Lede (summary of field, proposal and controv.)
2 - Overview of gas field (specs, history etc -- some add. info is needed here)
3 - Proposal 
:3a - Extraction
:3b - Sea Pipeline
:3c - Land Pipeline
:3d - Drying Plant
4 - Development
:4a... to be based on what the relevant milestones are
5 - Controversy Summary (here to link to Controv page)
:5a - Environmental/Safety
:5b - Poss. violation of process
6 - Purported economic impact
Obviously this is a first effort. Perhaps add. material/headings needs and perhaps some of the orderings are wrong --- wanted to put this up as a start though. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 01:27, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: looks good to me GainLine  ♠  ♥ 08:37, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll wait to see if any of the above critics have suggestions -- if not I can start making the changes. The Controversy article, I fear, will be a harder thing to fix. Bigdaddy1981 (talk) 17:54, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Structure looks okay .No obvious alterations spring to mind .Garda40 (talk) 23:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggested Content/Structure

message: This article apears to be biased against the gas project. In the lead section, we have: 
* A claim that this is a project from 'Royal Dutch Shell', when Shell holds a minority interest in the field.
* A reference to 'exploitation' when 'extraction' would suffice. Exploitation is a word sometimes used without negative connotation, but in this case it reads pejoratively.
* A description of the Corrib field as a 'large natural gas deposit'. This is a 1 trillion cubic foot field, right at the bottom end of the scale for commercially realisable deposits.Hundreds of gas fields are larger and some are up to 1,000 times larger (see List_of_natural_gas_fields)
* The use of the word 'purported' is a construct for adding editorial bias. This use of this word is specifically warned against in WP:ALLEGED.
I don't want to be the one to do it, so would someone else like to fillet this article?  thanks MoyrossLADY (talk) 10:21, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Snappy (talk) 20:13, 23 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The above changes have been made and the article seems fairly unbiased. I have boldly removed the NPOV tag. 213.233.149.14 (talk) 10:49, 1 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV dispute 

message: Nine, being nearly half of all the references, are to shell web pages that are unavailable or redirect to the same uselss page, and are not to be found through Archive.org. Can someone helps find these references or link to new one as this lack of available citations undermines the credibility of the references and therefore the article? ww2censor (talk) 15:45, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations

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