Talk:Brigade

message: The "Origin" section needs heavy revision. It speaks with certainty about Units that were hardly as well organized as is implied.
"Old wars" is terribly vague.
I am removing the line:
'In the United States Army the term brigade is used instead of the term regiment, except in the cavalry. This is because a regiment has a fixed structure, whereas a brigade can be changed to suit the mission's needs.'
because it is inaccurate, and I can't think of a better replacement for it.
In the US Army, the term brigade does _not_ replace regiment. Rather, regimental units, such as 1-77 AR (1st Battalion, 77th Armor Regiment), are formed into brigades. To wit, the 2nd Brigade of the US 1st Infantry Division is currently comprised of 1-77 AR, 1-18 IN, and 1-28 IN. To these core units, other units, such as military intelligence, military police, engineers, and cavalry are assigned to form the Brigade Combat Team.
:However - it is true to state that as an echelon of command between division and battalion, the brigade did replace combat commands in the armored divisions and battlegroups (themselves a replacement for the regiments used by World War II infantry divisions) in the Pentomic infantry divisions. The assignment of battalions to brigades in the U.S. Army is also far looser than was the case of regimental affiliations, thus I have to agree with the second sentence of the quotation you cited. W. B. Wilson 08:06, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Except in the case of cavalry regiments, who wisely chose to retain their traditional structure and have thereby reaped the benefits of regimental cohesion for decades since the ROAD changes. It can be argued that the 1960s brigade concept was a case of change for the sake of change. The U.S. Army in World War II employed regimental combat teams that also allowed for reinforcement as necessary and enjoyed the benefits of regimental cohesion. Thus, a successful model for this kind of structure already existed but the U.S. Army chose to no longer use it. W. B. Wilson 08:06, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: "In the armies of colonial powers, such as the British Empire, brigades frequently garrisoned isolated colonial posts, and their commanders had substantial discretion and local authority."
This seems to contradict the regiment page, which says that regiments did this sort of duty. As far as I know in the British army brigades were only formed for major campaigns not garrison duty. David.j.james 16:41, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of brigades 

message: I don't think this really belongs in the Dab, where i was going to put it under "== See also ==". They are gleaned from the first fifty Wiki-Search hits on "brigade:
Strict-sense brigades:
* 1st Vermont Brigade (American Union Army)
* Texas Brigade (American Confederate Army)
* Brigade of Gurkhas (British Army)
* British 7th Armoured Brigade (British Army)
* Brigade 6 (Norway)
* 500 Brigade (or Kfir Formation, Israel)
* Kfir Brigade (or 900 Brigade, Israel)
* 7th Brigade (or Sheva' Brigade, Israel)
* Zimbabwean Fifth Brigade
* Nyland Brigade (or Uusimaa Brigade, Swedish)
* Lowland Brigade (Scottish)
* Pursuit Brigade (or Fighter Brigade, Polish Air Force)
* Bomber Brigade (Polish Air Force)
* 160 (Wales) Brigade (British Army)
* Armoured Brigade (Finnish Army)
* British 43rd Infantry Brigade
* Light brigade, British cavalry unit of Charge of the Light Brigade
Non-traditional military units:
* Jewish Brigade (British Army)
* Lafayette Escadrille (French Air Service)
* International Brigades (Spanish Republic)
* Abraham Lincoln Brigade (Spanish Republic)
* Black Brigades (Italian Fascist)
* Brigade 2506 (American CIA)
* Red Brigades (Italian revolutionaries)
* 055 Brigade (Al Quaida)
Civilian international organizations:
* Venceremos Brigade (Cuba)
* Boys' Brigade
Music:
* The APF Brigade
* Youth Brigade (band)
* DC Youth Brigade
* Brown Brigade
Other:
* Brigade de cuisine (or classic(al) brigade)
* Fur brigade
--Jerzy•t 06:35, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of brigades 

message: The queried expression (before editing) was "Regular Force CMBG strengths are ~4, 000 personnel." (Spacing and tilde as this--all copied and pasted). Ive made it just 4,000 but the original author might like to review it. Incidentally, I was looking at this because a WWI close relative, a (British) horse-artillery gunner/driver, was reportedly "the sole survivor of his brigade" when repatriated to Wales in early 1919. However, a few weeks later, he was killed when thrown by an unbroken horse he was riding home from a fair. Cheers Aeronian 07:00, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Individual armies QUERY 

message: My sense from a recent reading of Graves's Good-Bye to All That is that at that time brigades and regiments differed in purpose in the British army.  A regiment was a peace-time unit; officers and men were all permanently assigned to a regiment, the regiment was loosely geographically-based, and for officers, at least, there was a strong sense of identity with the regiment.  However, at this time, regiments were not a tactical unit - individual battalions served separately, and were integrated into different brigades with battalions from other regiments.  The brigade, on the other hand, was temporary, but had tactical significance - a brigade would be composed of battalions from a somewhat random assortment of regiments.  I'm not really familiar with whether this is the usual procedure, though.  Some of this might be better clarified in the article, I think. john k (talk) 08:16, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Britain 

message: I think that this page needs more information about other armies. It only shows brigades in western armies, and even shows brigades in Argentina and partially recognized Taiwan/Chinese Taipei/RoC, but yet doesn't show brigades in the Russian Federation or PRC. Why is this so? Di the Albanian (talk) 15:54, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other brigades 

message: "The typical NATO standard brigade consists of approximately 5,000 troops."
I keep seeing such references to NATO standard organisations floating around Wikipedia, but I can never find an explanation or citation/link to what this actually is. Does anyone know more about it? If it isn't somehow classified information, shouldn't this standard be cited? Or if it isn't an actual written standard but just a "typical NATO brigade (of standard denomination)", the source of this analysis should be cited. Sinthorion (talk) 11:18, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  NATO Standard Organisation