Talk:Daisy Bates (author)

message: Bates is called 'Daisy' throughout. I would change it to conform with the convention of using people's surnames rather than given names (do we speak of Abraham, or Lincoln?), but as I am unsure of the Wikipedia convention, and can't find it, I will only mention that I think it seems very odd. Alpheus 11:41, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: earlier comments

message: I have added the Perth Sunday Times quote in order to make clear why Daisy Bates is not necessarily regarded as a heroine by all indigenous Australians, many of whom are of part Aboriginal descent.--Jbeureka (talk) 06:57, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I cannot find any support for the statement that Bates' remark that "the only good half-caste is a dead one" was erroneously attributed to her. In fact the account in Daisy Bates: Grand Dame of the Desert by Bob Reece includes her response to James Harris strong rebuke of her remark, which is difficult to interpret in any other way than her endorsement of the remark. in the absence of any evidence to the contrary I am inclined to remove the reference to "erroneous". Cabrils (talk) 23:56, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've removed it. The confusion seems to have been over where she made the remark: Not in her June 1921 article but in her reply to Harris. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 03:31, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Attitude to people of part Aboriginal descent and her "erroneous" credit

message: From the article, referring to the 1930s:
Later the Commonwealth Government paid her a stipend of $4 a week to assist her in putting all her papers and notes in order and prepare her manuscript. But with no other income it was impossible for her to remain in Adelaide so she moved to the village settlement of Pyap on the Murray River where she pitched her tent and set up her typewriter.
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No other income struck me as a little odd because I would have thought that given her age and poverty she would have been getting the Age Pension. 
The Australian Bureau of Statistics gives a good roundup of eligibility here
http://abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/b4005c38619c665aca25709000203b8d/8e72c4526a94aaedca2569de00296978!OpenDocument
Depending on her situation with assets, age-wise she would have been eligible from 1919. Or did she reject a pension?
The other thing that I wonder is whether she was receiving any royalties for her book, The Passing of the Aborigines?  According to the State Library of Victoria catalogue there were three editions of the book before her death in 1951 - the first in 1939, then 1944 and again in 1947.
Would she not have recieved a pension if she was earning a mite by journalism?  Was she receiving any income from The Advertiser, or just given a desk?
I have no idea what the answer is here, I just raise it as a query.
Lenore10 (talk) 14:07, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daisy's income 

message: this article has bias as seeing Daisy as savior of aboriginal people but sources indicate otherwise especially from the aboriginal perspective  I htink there should be something more substantive about this facet. Gnangarra 12:51, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: It has been suggested that Bates's second marriage was not in fact bigamous, as her first marriage was technically illegal due to Morant apparently being underage (see Joe West and Roger Roper, 'Breaker Morant: The Final Roundup' (Amberley Publishing, 2016). I have amended the description of her marriages accordingly, but if any disagreements due to other evidence, please do say ... Jay4283 (talk) 18:02, 28 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bigamous Marriage(s) 

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This is a recently published work that could be useful for developing the article. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 23:14, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional source