Talk:Proposals for new Australian states

message: OK, I've gone through and wikified and copyedited the whole article now, but I'm still struck by the fact that there is, nowhere, in the entire thing, a single notable verifiable citation.  I would appreciate it if some could be provided by some editors "in the know"... Tomertalk 13:05, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Some of it is correct (in fact, most of it is correct AFAIK. Might want to try WP:AWNB. - Ta bu shi da yu 13:22, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's all correct. While references are ideal, there's nothing in this article that isn't particularly obvious. I'd heard of all of these statehood movements long before this article came along. Ambi 13:50, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added some further reading links - the SMH article should fulfill the N, V, and CITE criteria. Natgoo 14:41, 29 December 2005 (UTC)

text: As an addendum...in case anyone mistook my intent based upon the way I chose to entitle this section of the talk page, let me clarify by pointing out that it was the end of what I started with my first edit to the article, the edit summary of which was "starting something magical"...  Sorry for any misunderstandings... Tomertalk 15:07, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ending something magical 

message: The article explains historic proposals for new states and subdivisions, but it doesn't actually cover how a state is formed. Is it a referendum or something to pass into law? --Breno talk 12:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that in the case of Australia, it hasn't been done since the 19th century, and most are from the original English colonies. --MacRusgail (talk) 15:55, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: From my recollections of studying the Constitution in high school, the state/s out of which the new state would be created would have to have a referendum passed by a majority of it's/their own citizens, and then the citizens of each of the other states must pass referendums by a majority, before the original state passes legislation to form the new state. I don't have time to write something for the article at the moment, but maybe someone else does (or I can get back to this later). Blarneytherinosaur gabby? 02:19, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

text: For reference, the relevant part of the Constitution is chapter 6. Blarneytherinosaur gabby? 02:33, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that's the theory perhaps. I suspect that the reality is that Canberra would have to back any such move... --MacRusgail (talk) 12:23, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added some information about what the Constitution says about the formation of states, and yes, the Federal Government does have to approve the formation of a new state. Apparently there is no requirement for referenda of the states either, just the approval of the state/s involved. Blarneytherinosaur gabby? 05:07, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

text: I was editing the same section at the same time, caused much confusion, lol.WA Burdett (talk) 05:33, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow thanks for the prompt response. Much appreciated. --Breno talk 05:34, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How are states formed? 

message: In several places 'state' and 'states' were capitalised. 'The State' requires a capital only where it is being used in the same way as 'the Crown', not when it is similar to 'the country'. I've corrected those that were wrong. I've also removed the incorrect capital on 'parliaments of the states'. A capital on 'the parliament' may be correct in the singular (if it is being thought of as a legal entity), but not in the plural. Klippa (talk) 02:59, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalisation 

message: I might have got it wrong but, the links in part of the article are suspect - they not actually linking to information about the proposed areas - but names associated - I might have got it wrong - but it seems spurious SatuSuro 12:32, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Links in part 2

message: I'm doing it Phil Ian Manning (talk) 02:59, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not completely convinced some of these are past proposals. From what I hear, the New England proposal is still ongoing. These things often have a long afterlife, or a low level campaign.--MacRusgail (talk) 15:17, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well feel free to move any which you believe are present proposals.Phil Ian Manning (talk) 07:27, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seperating past and present proposals. 

message: Wasn't Fiji considered too? --MacRùsgail (talk) 19:47, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Fiji

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message: This section of the article is unreferenced and I am unsure if it describes a real proposal. It was added by user:Bhill11 in March 2008 and little modified since. Bhill11 edited a few other articles in that month, mostly related to Wollongong/Illawarra, and has made no further edits. Their other contributions seem largely unremarkable; a seemingly outlandish claim that Wollongong city council voted to defect to France as a protest of the Iraq War is actually true, which is why I have not simply deleted the claim in this article. Perhaps it is legitimate! But it needs citations to prove this, and so I am making this call for someone to add them if they can confirm the reality of this proposal.
A simple search of newspapers on Trove for "Illawarra Province" turns up a meagre four hits, all irrelevant shipping news. I just flicked through Jim Hagan's chapter on Illawarra politics in the book he edited with Andrew Wells, A History of Illawarra, and he makes no mention of a separation movement. Does anyone have a source for verification? Axver (talk) 07:53, 9 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illawarra Province