Template talk:Reflist/Archive 2

message: I don't know that this is always noticeable, but I've found that multi-column reference lists have a bug wrt the numbering of references. In Firefox, I can change the display font size, and the number at the bottom of the left column and the next reference at the top of the right column can be the same -- and the whole right column continues from there so that the last reference number is one fewer than it should be. This applies to long lists (100+ references) and short (5 references). --Dhartung | Talk 04:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I've seen this in Firefox too.  I think it's clearly a Firefox bug, but if there's more information about it somewhere (eg. in their bugzilla, for instance), maybe there's some sort of work-around we could implement.  --Interiot 16:44, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multi-column reference numbering bug 

message: Swedish version avabile. Add sv:Mall:Reflist. -- Najoj 16:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Note that this template uses the doc-page pattern, so non-admins can add interwikis by editing . --ais523 16:50, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swedish 

message: The tag should be , not . Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 22:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: done CMummert · talk 23:37, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  coding error 

message: I propose that  be redirected to this template.  It's largely the same, except for two things:
There is an issue that it uses , while this uses .  This has been hashed over at some length on Template talk:FootnotesSmall and a TfD.  However, it seems clear to me that  is preferred because it allows readers with vision problems to adjust the size of reference text using their personalized monobook.css.  Hard-coding the size without even a class or ID to trigger off of prevents customizing the references size on an individual basis.
Also,  allows the first parameter to use a size other than 92%, but it's not clear that m/any pages use this, especially since the shorter  can be used for the same thing (and someone could use AWB to convert over the uses of  to  that don't use the default size).  --Interiot 19:56, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The issue, as I understand it, is that reference-small does font-size 90%, and FootnotesSmall does 92%. Earlier attempts to change FootnotesSmall to 90% have been reverted, and a proposal to make references-small 92% did not gain much support. It would be nice for consistency if all resized footnotes were resized the same, but it is possible that changing FootnotesSmall will cause the hard-coding to move to the articles. Quite a few articles use FootnotesSmall and 100%, so a simple redirect would have complications. Gimmetrow 20:05, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, either way, the minimal-impact course of action would be to use AWB to change all uses of non-default-size FootnotesSmall's to Footnote, before redirecting. And regardless of what the size is, we really should be discouraging hard-coding of the size in articles, or at the very least providing some sort of standard class or ID so people can override it in monobook.css with . --Interiot 20:11, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually, right now  allows only 92% or 100%. 100% when 100% is specified, and 92% whenever someone tries to change it to anything else. I am baffled as to why anyone who use a template to set 100% instead of just using . Anyway, I agree that the style should at least be named with a css style name/selector, preferably standardized to one number other than 100%. I don't know what the fuss is about 90% vs. 92%, but would 91% be a fair compromise at all? The template  is dubious at best, as all it does is provide an HTML comment before transcluding . Changing all single-uses of  to  doesn't improve anything except provide a helpful comment. So I support redirecting all these unnecessary templates to  so reference sections don't look different from article to article. AWB should be used to find all hard-coded sizes. –Pomte 02:56, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I would prefer consistency on the resizing too, but will this actually do it? Is a little inconsistency on this point really harming the encyclopedia? Is it worse than editors hard-coding 92% in text because they refuse to use the default 90% css? (And no, 91% won't work for the 92%ers and it wasn't found satisfactory to the rest, either.) Gimmetrow 04:10, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge from FootnotesSmall 

message: Could other editors please weigh in on the ongoing discussion at Talk:Belgium regarding the use of a scrollbox for footnotes?  Thanks!  --ElKevbo 13:31, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Belgium]]

message: *When looking at an article in print preview, i noticed that long urls used in references are not wrapped to the next line when using this  template.  For example, just try to view this page in print preview (click here) and you will see that the url just goes on and on within the same line in the Reference section. testtest1test2testtest2hihohaheh  (:O) -Nima Baghaei talk · cont · email 21:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the same problem as the one described above under "Printing multi-column reference lists". Jayen466 19:57, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It has nothing to do specifically with this template, just the Cite extension.  You might want to bring it up on the Cite extension's page on Meta.  The last two examples don't use ; you can clearly see this by viewing the source.  Tuxide 05:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  long url(s) do not get wrapped to next line 

message: I've noticed that pages using  are only displaying one column whereas this page still states that it will display two. Is the template broken? Has it been changed and the explanation not updated? (I see there have been some issues) I've specifically noticed this at Matt Groening and Al Gore though there are probably others. Stardust8212 17:08, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you changed browsers? Some browsers do not recognize the code used to make two columns, and display in one. Gimmetrow 17:41, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

text: If you are not using Firefox, the documentation tells you about it. –Pomte 17:42, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm having an issue with pages that use  as well. I'm using Firefox, but any page that uses  only displays the reflist half way across the page. Look at the image to the right to see what I'm talking about. - auburnpilot talk 01:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two columns not working 

message: What are the differences between  and ? Simply south 23:18, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The difference is that the latter was disrupted a day or two ago, with all footnotes being displaced to the right and the layout of thousands pages altered beyond recognition. Here's a good example. --Ghirla-трёп- 16:53, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Anything affecting  would affect  too, no? (I don't see anything odd in the link you provide.) Reflist is a template which includes the references/ tag but has additional code to put the notes in a smaller font. For short lists of notes, there is no need to use a smaller font, though. Gimmetrow 16:58, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The templates are still broken; reflist with columns doesn't even work. MSJapan 15:15, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differences 

message: On the Norwegian wiki there is now discussion (:no:Maldiskusjon:Reflist :no:Wikipedia:Tinget#Noe_rart_med_.7B.7Breflist.7D.7D :no:Wikipedia:Tinget#Hardkodete_styledefinisjoner_ute_av_styring) about the reflist-template. Some argue that this template should be deleted because it incorporates stylesheets. Stylesheets which should only be in stylesheets so it's possible to override fontsizes o.a. for the user? How is this solved at en:wp? Nsaa 07:43, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Font sizes can be overridden by the browser just the same if the inline sizes don't use absolute units.  Hypothesis: Things initially start with inline styles and after some trial time might get the seal of approval and get promoted to the CSS file includes. That's if they are common enough. Less common styles are either added to secondary, smaller scope CSS files, or stay inline for really limited scope. ¤ ehudshapira 00:26, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delete this template? 

message: Can somebody who knows what is going fix the possibility for multicolumn reflists, as it is not working at the moment. Thanks Arnoutf 09:43, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It'd be useful if you stated which web browser you were using.  Multi columns only works in Gecko-based browsers such as Mozilla Firefox, as far as I know.  Tuxide 09:56, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I use Mozilla Firefox, and a 2 column reflist () still doesn't work for me. The references only go half-way across the page on articles like Al Gore and United States housing bubble. - auburnpilot talk 13:54, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multi column functions is down