Talk:Samus Aran

message: The Metroid Database has a new feature chronicling the development of Samus Aran as a character:
The Woman Behind the Visor (retrieved November 8, 2008)
I'm not entirely sure where in the article we can cite this, so I'll just leave this link here for anyone who can.
Abodos (talk) 21:18, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We certainly wouldn't be able to use it as a citation anywhere, since the Metroid Database is a fansite, and so not a reliable source under Wikipedia definition.  At most, we could add a link for this in the External Links section, but there's already a thorough profile of Samus courtesy of IGN, so I don't see much of a need. Arrowned (talk) 23:12, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Woman Behind the Visor 

message: I'd say mid-to-late twenties, but that's just my guess.  I know that none of the games directly states her age, but I'm just asking to get your opinions.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.157.91.25 (talk) 09:24, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact is, she appears differently in different games. In fact, I would say she looks older in MP1 than MP3. Not to mention that the time between games is never given. It's impossible to tell for sure, but she clearly can't be more than early thirties.--ZXCVBNM 07:41, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There's also the fact that this is a fictional universe, and one that takes place in a seemingly futuristic environment.  It's highly possible that human lifespans are different in the Metroid setting.  On top of that, Samus is not completely human anymore; she's hybridized with Chozo blood (and Metroid blood as of Fusion), and we have no idea what the suit does to her physicality.  
I would say that she is around mid to late twenties. She was born during or after the year 2000 AD, and the series takes place around 20X5. This means the game could be anywhere from 2015 to 2095, but I do t think it would make sense at all for her to be 95. She is probably about twenty to twenty-five years old in the first Metroid for the Nintendo Entertainment System, and closer to twenty-five or thirty by the end of the timeline.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Castlevania Boy (talk • contribs) 22:25, 21 January 2020 (UTC)

text: In a nutshell, real world logic need not apply. King Zeal (talk) 13:19, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I hate to be a party pooper, but this is a question better suited for a discussion forum. — KieferSkunk (talk) — 16:30, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  How Old do you think Samus is? 

message: Looking at the section, it seems like the list of summaries of her appearances in every Metroid game don't jive well with the article. Maybe it would be better if the section just summarized her roles throughout the series in prose, and let the actual game articles summarize the plot.--ZXCVBNM 19:16, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be probably be done something like Master Chief (Halo) (an FA), although that was promoted in 2007; Gravemind (a GA) is more recent. Gary King (talk) 19:37, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Appearances" Section? 

message: To begin with, does anyone got references for the ton of unreferenced information in this article? Gary King (talk) 07:28, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does anyone have references for the unreferenced information? 

message: User:Kung Fu Man pointed me to this video (also at here) of an interview with Jennifer Hale, who apparently voiced Samus in the Prime trilogy. There is no mention of her in this article, so that should perhaps be corrected, preferably with some reliable sources. Could someone also remind me as to when Samus actually says anything in the Prime trilogy, as I thought she was a non-speaking role? Gary King (talk) 16:43, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh, she voiced Samus, but only for the various grunts and miscellaneous sound effects. AFAIK, Samus only speaks in the 2D games, particularly Metroid Fusion.--ZXCVBNM 21:41, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

text: For the record, reliable sources are very hard to find for this.  The article originally did mention Jennifer Hale, but this conversation on the Jennifer Hale talk page back in October explains why we removed it, and also the ridiculous extent I went looking for proper sources without finding anything legitimate.  Maybe you'll be able to find something with three months having passed (or perhaps you just have better Google-fu than I do), but I'm not holding out much luck.  Unless the argument can be made of a Youtube video being reliable, which IIRC, is a very sticky subject. Arrowned (talk) 02:41, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay, thanks for the insight. I was definitely not aware of the previous conversations on this. Gary King (talk) 03:29, 17 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Some gal named Jessica Martin. sesuprime 20:12, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Jennifer Hale]] voices Samus in the Prime trilogy? 

message: "Heidi Dangelmaier, a computer science graduate from Princeton University, conducted research on developing interactive titles for game manufacturers before pursuing a business in which she works with manufacturers to expand video games to target girls more. In an article for The Washington Post, she remarks that she was unhappy with what she considered a halfhearted attempt to include girls in the audience for video games. Dangelmaier said of Samus and Capcom's Cammy video game character: "That's not a woman, that's a drag queen. [...] Does she have the right contours? Sensibilities? Sense? Probably she's quite brutal. I don't think this is a role model for women or something we would aspire to be. [...] You're going to find some girls who like these games, but generally they know they're being left out."
Why is that bit included? it should be deleted. who cares what this woman said? it has little if not nothing to do with the actual Samus character at all, her personality, or her sexuality. Men could oogle at anything, and will, so what?  The character of Samus is pretty much the adoptive mother to an alien life form thought only capable of destruction for crying out loud! The article should be about things like that, and not quotes from people who've never played the games that completely contradict the strong AND compassionate woman character that she is.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Magicbologna (talk • contribs) 16:30, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  under sexuality... 

message: Now that Nintendo has released some proper Other M artwork of Samus in the Varia Suit, it seems like an appropriate time to update the infobox image. Or this image might work better overall since it can also replace the closeup of her face, cutting the article's fair-use image count from three to two. Thoughts? sesuprime 04:36, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: So... Yes? No? sesuprime 22:47, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the second one should be used, the half-profile angle makes it kind of difficult to properly present Samus' look (the human form even more than the Power Suit incarnation). Although I consider the other Other M screenshot only a slight improvement, being just a face shot and so on... I would give it a wait till the game comes out, maybe it will provide some more appropriate images. Prime Blue (talk) 23:04, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

text: Yeah, a portrait-type pose would be best for both the Varia and unsuited images, I guess I'm just eager to see the infobox updated with some Other M artwork, but there's no harm in waiting. I also agree that the article's second image isn't the greatest, but I felt the article was in desperate need of her exposed face from Other M (see above) and there aren't too many clear shots of her unsuited "present day" look in the trailers. sesuprime 06:35, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replace infobox image? 

message: history of metroid that you put on the wiki is completely wrong, you've made a lot of unnecessary trips! history is simply: Metroid-Samus zebes goes on to destroy the pirates. metroid 2-Samus must destroy metroid sr388 on the pirates were divided into two groups, one went on heels (to study phazon) and the other is back on zebes (for rebuilding), and you save a baby Metroid Samus it brings with it. Metroid 3 (Super Metroid)-steals the only metroid ridley, Samus rescued from the pirates and multiply, Samus top zebes pirates and destroyed once and for all. metroid 4 (Metroid Fusion) Samus top-sr388 and is infected by x, in this chapter Samus discovers that the Fed had kept the metroid, the Finn this chapter seems that Metroid will be extinguished once and for all, but Actually there were many others on other planets. Metroid Prime 1, 2 and 3-history to know, because you've written, and with the death of Dark Samus ending the latest chapter in metroid. Metroid Prime Hunters "does not have a specific position in the history of the saga's first reference to show that your history is wrong and Ridley, Ridley fact you have these changes:-meta-ridley ridlei-omega-ridley and strangely after becoming ridley Omega Ridley returns to be in super metroid and this is not the same-in metroid fusion ridley is normal and frozen in my history instead:-ridley ridley-back-again super metroid ridley frozen in cast-meta-ridley ridley my omega makes more sense the second reference is that all first analyzing the scans can be seen that often speaks of when Samus destroyed zebes. also in super metroid and metroid fusion and two never speak of phason in the summaries of the adventures of Samus. for metroid hunters did not understand the criterion by which you have placed. In short you have the big stoner and you do not understand why you have changed throughout history that Nintendo had delivered in the right order.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.148.7.167 (talk) 19:04, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What?  Chronologically, the Prime series takes place between the 1st and second Metroid games, and Other M takes place between Super Metroid and Fusion.  Is that the order in which the games were developed?  No.  Like the Legend of Zelda series, the games are not developed in chronological order, and newer games are being made that take place before, between, and even during existing titles.  That is why phazon isn't mentioned in the games following the Prime series. 75.157.120.15 (talk) 19:04, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Its all wrong 

message: It discusses Samus. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 02:56, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portion of Metroid: Other M Iwata Asks 

message: Do we ever learn that? Serendipodous 19:39, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that Aran is her surname. - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 18:27, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Is Samus her given name or her surname?

message: I'm not saying any info is wrong, but as far as I know, Nintendo hasn't stated that a single specific event shown in any media is the sole reason for her leaving the GFP. Obviously what was shown in Other M is the most known history in USA as to why Samus could have left the GFP, but the manga that was made as her official history shows a completely different event before fastforwarding to her as a bounty hunter. In the manga, she is last seen as part of the GFP when the Space Pirates make an attack on Zebes. At the end of chapter 5, before Samus leaves for Zebes, she is told that the army will make a massive attack on the planet in 48 hours, during which Samus and her two GFP friends and partners go with her to the planet to save the chozo before the army's attack. At the end of chapter 12, the GFP arrived at the planet after it was too late to save some of the chozo, including Old Bird and Gray Voice. They were the two main chozo who raised her as well as Gray Voice being the one whose chozo DNA was integrated into her, Adam was her closest human father figure, but Gray Voice raised her. These two chozo are the ones shown with Samus when obtaining the gravity suit in Zero Mission, so they can't just be disregarded since they are even in at least one game. At the end of chapter 12 she promises to him (after he sacrificed himself fighting Ridley) that she would continue to fight and called him "Father." Then chapter 13 goes to a few years afterwards, with her as a bounty hunter.
Like I said, Nintendo hasn't stated the exact reason for her leaving (although it is greatly implied in Other M), but regardless, this event in the manga is another HUGE event in her history that could be the reason she left the GFP. Either one of these could be the sole reason, or one could have happened shortly before or after the other, either way, I think what happened in chapters 6 through 12 in the manga (the space pirate attack on Zebes) should be mentioned in her biography. At the very least, the sentence about her leaving the GFP because of the event with Adam's brother should make note of this event as well and say that either or both could be why she left.68.81.162.70 (talk) 21:52, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The reason for Samus leaving the GFP should be expanded a little. 

message: One is that it never addresses the the Zero Suit in terms of critical commentary, and I'm sure that such commentary exists due to its appearance in Brawl; and the other is a lack of development info concerning her role in Metroid: Other M. Here are some links:       - The New Age Retro Hippie used Ruler! Now, he can figure out the length of things easily. 22:07, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  A couple concerns 

message: According to a psychiatrist and a veteran soldier, both who reviewed the cutscene in Metroid: Other M where Ridley confronts her, Samus has Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder.  Should this be included in the article? 142.26.194.190 (talk) 21:07, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there sources for this?  Is this notable? — KieferSkunk (talk) — 07:12, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  PTSD 

message: Samus’ name is based on Edson Arantes do Nascimento, the soccer player better known as Pelé:
“Even the name of the protagonist could be put together in this manner, and if I wanted to give someone a strange name, I could refer to Pelé’s name.” - Hiroji Kiyotake
“Kiyotake, If you check if Pelé’s real name was ‘Samus Arantes,’ that’s a little incorrect. He’s called ‘Something’ Arantes Nascimento, and only ‘Aran’ matches. (Laughs)” - Yoshio Sakamoto
Source  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lampiaio (talk • contribs) 21:55, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pelé 

message: I tried to add her decline in he character development but it was deleted, but if you go on the site http://second-truth.blogspot.com/2010/09/samus-is-slowly-shrinking.html you will see why I attempted to make that edit. --203.206.73.28 (talk) 11:08, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character Decline 

message: *http://www.empireonline.com/features/50-greatest-video-game-characters/default.asp?film=26
*http://www.gamefront.com/the-greatest-boobs-in-video-game-history-gallery/
*http://www.ugo.com/games/paging-uwe-boll-video-game-characters-who-need-their-own-movies
*http://www.ugo.com/games/swimsuit-samus
*http://www.ugo.com/games/video-game-hotties
--Niemti (talk) 09:02, 1 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  A few more sources that you might use for Reception 

message: --Niemti (talk) 18:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  So, how do you like the brand new Reception section? 

message: Can the sex appeal paragraph be moved closer to the bottom? --Dswiggy (talk) 03:35, 16 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Sex Appeal

message: I know that her first name is pronounced  or at least that is what I felt I heard from the Super Smash Brothers Brawl character select screen. I read on the Yahoo Answers link that her last name was pronounced in Metroid Prime 3: Corruption. Does anyone know a what part of that game says her last name?--Ephert (talk) 22:25, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Going by the Japanese katakana spelling, the pronunciation should be 'Samus', similar to the pronunciation in Spanish or Italian. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 17:43, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: @Wakuran: And what does that mean in IPA? Glades12 (talk) 12:46, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: I heard Samus was a robot, are you guys sure this is correct? I mean robots can't really have genders.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.211.144.113 (talk) 02:39, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: To my knowledge, she is a woman in a suit. But compare gynoid. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 10:38, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Samus a Robot?

message: There seems to be some . . . unusual, or at least unverified categorization in the article. It's been a long time since I've played all of the Metroid games, but erotic dancer, bisexual, prostitute, and arguably cyborg don't fit. She's been genetically modified and wears a powered-armor suit, but she doesn't seem to be cybernetically enhanced. At the very least, I'm not seeing any in-line reference in the article to these classifications. Supersonic Dude (talk) 18:51, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like for a few of those, someone decided to be super creepy and misogynistic. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 03:31, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Cyborg was probably added in good faith. The others are just bizarre. Tezero (talk) 23:38, 21 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This and the previous entry were probably resulting from people 'misreading' the status screens and how the upgrades seem to point at her muscles, the accidental implication being that she's installing that hardware in herself. You see those sorts of cutaways in cyberpunk mostly (ala syndicate), so perhaps whomever put the Metroid status screens together was unaware of the gynoid/cyborg implications. IIRC all her 'superhuman ability' relates to genetic modification. So in-game those are actually pointing at her suit. On that other note, there's nothing misogynistic about women in odd professions. In fact I would be willing to bet it's someone who performed attempting to 'claim' the character (as that current person below is doing for trans). The 'bisexual' bit kind of tips it off. It's a very Otherkin-y thing to do the kids are into these days. If they can't find a fictional character to 'relate' to, they say a famous one is actually one of them. (See also: Steven Universe fandom and the "Lars is a Trans-man" headcanon.) Ihadurca Il Imella (talk) 04:50, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categorization? 

message: The Zero Suit image, while one of the more criticized examples of Samus, is an awkward pose. Speaking of Zero Suit, it raises a question of whether we should split Zero Suit Samus out of this article. I have seen some design discussion specifically about ZSS, and ZSS' involvement in this article introduces very diametrically opposed reception. While armoured Samus receives mostly positive reception, Zero Suit Samus receives generally negative reception (or positive reception about her sexuality). Thoughts on splitting if the justification can be met? - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 01:25, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the same character in the same series, so there is no need at all to split them. JDDJS (talk) 16:02, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Well that's not entirely true, to be quite honest. After all, Clark Kent exists. This is clearly not to the same level as Clark Kent versus Superman, but at the very least it discredits the idea of the reason to split being that they are the same entity. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 03:30, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point, but as you said it's nearly the same level as Clark Kent. The article is at a decent length right now. While I wouldn't want to classify it as too short, I'd sooner classify as that instead of too long. So there is currently no need for a split right now. If the article continues to expand, a split might become justified, but as it is right now, there is simply not enough content to justify a split. JDDJS (talk) 05:59, 18 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: Simple: Just block anyone from trying to add anything that claims that samus is a transgender. Seriously, the game (and the manual) only refer to samus as a male due to a translation problem. The Japanese version of the game refer to samus using a gender neutral pronoun, and since there isn't a gender neutral pronoun in english (and using "it" would make even less sense), nintendo decided to keep the minor translation problem and refer to samus as a man to avoid ruining the big surprise.
Now some "activists" (see some of Brianna Wu's posts on twitter about the matter) think that samus is a transgender (ignoring the fact that all the later titles refer to samus as a woman) due to this minor problem. Its just like that one episode of king of the hill where bobby joins some christian rock group, and hank says something like "don't you realize you are not making christianity better, you are only making rock and roll worse?". Just replace christianity with something like "acceptance of gays and transgenders" and rock and roll with "gaming".
Look, i just want to protect the integrity of the article. If you let people change the article. If you folks let people change the article to say that samus is a transgender, it will attract the people who disagree with them, and then a bunch of trolls and people who just want to cause chaos for fun into the middle of this.
I hope you guys do the right decision.
Thank you guys for your time.
Cheesus Grist (talk) 03:21, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think we're going to straight up block people because they edited the page to say its trans. Once, that's expected to be vandalism and maybe they won't do it again. If they do it more than once, then the option to block, temporary or permanently, is on the table. We're already debunked this meme that Samus is trans so if this persists then some admins are going to have a field day. GamerPro64 03:29, 2 September 2015 (UTC)

text: This isn't how you use a requested edit request. Weedwacker (talk) 03:31, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not an edit request. ~ RobTalk 03:57, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Trans Woman are women Cheesus stop being a Transphobic Terf please.81.156.101.133 (talk) 09:47, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2015 

message: Since new users and anonymous editors don't get it: unless something is canon (i.e., in source material or stated by creator), you can't claim Samus Aran is canonically trans, male, furry, Nazi, feminist, MRA, based on a real person, lesbian, straight, three monkeys in a suit, or whatever. For example:
:Samus in canon has yellow hair. She is canonically blonde. 
I hope this clears things up for you people. Why you obsess over a fictional character is beyond me. Why you even think your feelings equal, surpass, or substitute for canon is beyond me.
Exhentai (talk) 12:05, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There is really no need for this kind of incivility. Pinkbeast (talk) 16:17, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
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message: Leading (main) female characters in video games, 1980s, pre-NES Samus Aran:
Leading (main) female characters in video games:
Magnavox Odyssey:
Female player (Simon Says, Odyssey, 1972, main character)
Apple ][:
Female player selection (Akalabeth: World of Doom, Origin, 1979, selectable)
Jenny (Jenny of the prairie, Addison Wesley, 1984, main character)
Clair (Cave Girl Clair, Addison Wesley, 1984, main character)
Lauren (Lauren of the 25th century, Addison Wesley, 1984, main character)
Chelsea (Chelsea of the south sea Islands, Addison Wesley, 1984, main character)
Arcade:
Ms. Pac-Man (Ms. Pac-Man, Bally Midway, 1981, main character)
Lady Bug (Lady Bug, Universal, 1981, main character)
Kissy and Takky (Baraduke, Namco, 1985, main characters)
Atari 2600 VCS:
Billie Sue (Wabbit, Games by Apollo, 1982, main character)
Dolphin  (Dolphin, female Dolphin, Activision, 1983, main character)
Alice (Alice Adventure, Quelle, 1983, main character)
Laurie Strode (Halloween, Wizard Video Games, 1983, main character)
Blond girl (Ghost Manor, Xonox, 1983, selectable)
Leading Lady (Beat ‘em and eat ‘em, Mystique, 1983, main character)
Strawberry Shortcake (Strawberry Shortcake, Parker, 1983, main character)
Chinese Girl (Dancing Plates, Dishaster, Bit Corp.,Zimag,  1983, main character)
Inventa (handheld game & watch)
Snow White (Snow White, Inventa, 1983, main character
Sleeping Beauty (Sleeping Beauty, Inventa, 1983, main character)
Colecovison:
Anna Lee (Cabage Patch Kids, Coleco, 1984, main character)
Atari 8-bit:
Kim Kimberly (Snowball, Return to Eden, Level 9 Computing, 1983, 1984, main character)
Alexandra (Lode Runner’s Rescue, Synapse, 1985, main character)
Englishwoman (Plundered Hearts, Infocom, 1987, main character)
Sega SG-1000:
Papri (Girl’s Garden, Sega, 1984, main character)
C64:
Barbie (Barbie, Epyx, 1984, main character
Trixie Trinian (The secret of St. Brides, Audiogenic, 1985, main character)
Alter Ego female version (Alter Ego, Activision, 1986, main character)
NES:
Samus Aran (Metroid, Nintendo, 1986, main character)
So the first 'real' woman in a video game is Billy Sue (game: WABBIT, 1982) from 'Games by Apollo' on the Atari VCS 2600 console, the Guinness Book got it wrong! 
A correction is needed. Please, proper research required before posting such untruths.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.144.41.252 (talk) 06:20, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  One of the earliest females.....not by a long shot 

message: By 'better', I mean one that's representative of Samus' traditional appearance, the way she's appeared throughout most of the series rather than her design in Prime 3 (which is far from the newest game at this point). Are there any reasons why we couldn't use Other M artwork instead? Valjeanlafitte (talk) 22:40, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can we get a better infobox image?  

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The article mentions that Samus' official height from the Super Metroid handbook was a slight mistranslation, and that her aforementioned height and weight applied only to her in the suit. They cited a website released by Nintendo at around the same time as evidencehttps://www.nintendo.co.jp/n02/dmg/mea/samus/index.html. Upon investigation, the website does not seem to confirm this at all. The way the website is formatted makes any conclusion at most indecisive and at least actually in support of what was stated in the handbook. It's also worth noting that I've never seen this claim made anywhere else. RainingHavoc (talk) 23:49, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  I noticed a mistake in the page when referring to Samus' height and weight. 

message: Can I have the picture for de.wikipedia.org and who has make it?
*DenzlingerDenzlinger (talk) 09:33, 10 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The valia suit picture 

message: He ruined the infobox, we need to revert this. Can someone please message him and tell him never to do this again. GeekFreak98 (talk) 14:41, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That's...um...not vandalism. The infobox is loaded with WP:CRUFT. You don't need all that in there to help the reader understand a character at a glance, which is the purpose of the infobox along with the lead.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 16:08, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kung Fu Man's edit 

message: We all know it's not canon, so why keep it? It's also making Samus' infobox bigger, which is too much. Imo, I think it's best to delete Captain N as her "significant other." In fact she doesn't even have one yet! So are we gonna remove Captain N from the infobox?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by GeekFreak98 (talk • contribs) 15:33, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delete Captain N as her significant other 

message: Just recently, Samus' infobox was filled with unnessecary and stupid information. Kung Fu Man deleted her in-universe information, which is bothersome and I completely understand why he did that. I brought back her in-universe information, but deleted unnessecary info about her, like her "spouse" and having way too many family members. 
So to the editors reading this, please leave the infobox where is it, don't add any new info in, unless it's important. If you disobey, we'll revert and possibly report you if you continue. Thank you, Kung Fu Man for mentioning this. 
Do not delete Samus' in-universe information, every fictional character should have in-universe information. 
Editors and veterans of Wikipedia, I ask if you can secure this article for a while. 
If your a newbie to Wikipedia and , please use sandbox.
Thank you
Special Thanks to 
Kung Fu Man GeekFreak98 (talk) 18:33, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: GameFreak, it still doesn't need that information. Nationality is meaningless when the character is from space, and any relationships can be covered in the article. I get you want to take charge of this article, but right now the key thing is making sure cruft and bloat don't eventually pull it down from Good Article status.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 20:27, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox clutter 

message: If this article was nominated at Wikipedia:Good article nominations today, I'd quick fail it. It's incredibly below current good article standards, from everything from reference formatting to over-detail. After reading this article for the first time today, I was going to formally renominate it, but thought I'd bring this up on the talk page first to see if anyone had any comments or wanted to display a willingness to improve the article without formal re-assessment. I note of the top 10 editors to this article, nine have not edited the page since at least 2012, and the other one is permanently banned from editing. Damien Linnane (talk) 01:59, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I would support a GAR; the reassessment in 2011 was rather slim. Numerous Metroid games have come out since then and it's been over a decade.  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 02:28, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs another Good Article reassessment