Talk:Qanun (instrument)

message: I added a reference to mandal, the levers used to re-tune strings on the fly, to the article. I found several credible references to this on the web, including this one. I've also seen kanun players and know that these things exist and that they are used during the course of performance. (If you don't like this because it's "original research", all I can say is *****. Kanun players are incredible enough if only for their lightning-fast plucking; adding in their constant manipulation of these levers without missing a beat is truly astounding.)
I have a few questions, though, which someone should clear up and fix if needed:
* "Mandal" seems to be used as both singular and plural; is this true?
* Are mandal only used on the Turkish version of the qanun/kanun, or on others as well?
* I'm pretty sure that the mandal work on all strings in a course, but I'm not positive. The linked article confusingly says "for each note there are from four to twelve MANDAL". I'm not sure what to make of this.
I think this device is interesting enough to deserve its own article, but I don't have enough information yet to start one. (Could create a stub, but it's not that pressing.) Thanks for any explanations. --ILike2BeAnonymous 22:27, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mandal 

message: I know that Qanun is widely used in Turkey and the Arab world, I am not sure about other places. radiant guy 04:15, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Qanun 

message: http://www.karpathios.gr/indexEN/frameset.htm  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.167.52.4 (talk) 10:40, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Kanun was brought to Anatolia with Al-Farabi and it passed to Greek lands later under the Ottoman rule. So no, it has nothing to do with Greeks.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.254.241.72 (talk) 13:54, 22 October 2009 (UTC)

text: if it had nothing to do wit the greeks when why did it pass to them? Enlil Ninlil (talk) 22:08, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  kanonaki(kanun) a greek instrument? 

message: Check this out.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psalterion  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.210.164.210 (talk) 14:37, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  kanonaki = Byzantine psalterion 

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message: This article was in pretty rough shape, so I'm doing some basic cleanup. I fixed the language templates in the lede, and gave some mention of distribution (a fact almost entirely skipped before). The article still has major issues in that it skips over the origin of the instrument (the History tab shows some past controversial attempts to trace it to Kazakhstan or something), something about its development and spread, etc.
Right now the article has way too much minutiae about tuning and temperament, and the obscure variants supported by various scholars, but very little about the normal course of the instrument. I'll dig into some references and see what I can find, and in the meantime I've added at least some basic attempt at sectioning, but overall the article needs work, and work that is clear to the layman and answers the most basic questions a reader would have rather than focus on minute details. MatthewVanitas (talk) 06:19, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs a cleanup 

message: The kanun is a descendant of the old Egyptian harp, and is related to the ancient Greek psaltery, dulcimer and zither. Among others, Ruhi Ayangil (*1953), Erol Deran (*1937), Halil Karaduman (*1959), Göksel Baktagir (*1966), Tahir Aydoğdu (*1959), Julien Jalâl Ed-Dine Weiss (*1953), and Begoña Olavide are present-day exponents of this instrument. 
Removed today, had been hidden text for a long while. MatthewVanitas (talk) 07:35, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed uncited/redlinked names 

message: Preserving here in case it turns out to be important. MatthewVanitas (talk) 22:29, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing fringe section 

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message: This statement, in the current version of the article, is wrong:
:The qanun traces its origins to a stringed Assyrian instrument from the Old Assyrian Empire, specifically from the nineteenth century BC in Mesopotamia.
The string instruments depicted in Assyrian iconography are angular harps, held horizontally, not any kind of zither! 173.88.246.138 (talk) 16:11, 13 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Supposed Assyrian origin