Talk:Dental material

message: I read a few years ago about a dentist who said he had a problem with current practice because the teeth with fillings eventually cracked. They didn't help as much as advertized. In fact he wondered if they were all about money rather than helping the patient. I have had teeth filled and cracked and then capped and wondered what if they had been left alone. Obviously, none of this warrents repeating in an encyclopedia article, but perhaps my message here will encourage someone to help the article with information related to all of this. WAS 4.250 04:30, 6 December 2005 
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Generally speaking,teeth are filled when they develop caries,that is tooth decay. If untreated caries can result in pain, infection and a tooth that is not restorable,resulting in the need for extraction.
Unfortunately,fillings often do not maintain their integrity for the remainder of the patients lifetime. It is hard to give a time scale, but what one would consider a good filling may last 10 years.It may,and often will last much longer.
No filling material is as strong as the tooth tissue it has replaced.Fillings can crack. The teeth containing the fillings can develop more caries or break themselves.
This leads to a situation whereby the filling must be replaced or the tooth must be crowned if the filling is too large to replace. If these things are not done,then extraction of the tooth may be required.
Response to Structural Integrity: There is no perfect restoration.  Fillings can crack, crowns can leak.  Even if you crown a tooth, you still might get decay right at the margins of the crown, and then you're screwed, especially if the decay reaches down into the roots.  What would be awesome would be a dental vaccine, but that's not really an option right now.  Crowning (aka capping) every tooth that gets decayed, however is an option, but it's not usually the best option since it necessitates the removal of lots of tooth structure. - Sfdavedds
:It should be noted there have been studies to create a dental vaccine but right now it is more on the level of promising avanews of research then anything definite.(Smith, D.J. (2002) "Dental Caries Vaccines: Prospects and Concerns" CROBM  July 2002   vol. 13  no. 4  335-349)(MW, Russell; Childers NK, Michalek SM, Smith DJ, Taubman MA. (2004) "A Caries Vaccine? The state of the science of immunization against dental caries." Caries Res May-Jun;38(3):230-5)
:Right now, prevention is the key and that means good nutrition in addition to the standard brush and floss advice.--BruceGrubb (talk) 12:29, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: structural integrity

message: I think that the redirect from filling should be replaced with a disambiguation page. See, for example, casserole. I'd make the word filling in that article a link (even though there isn't yet an article Filling (cooking), to encourage creation), but if I did so, the link would lead to this article. -- X-Man 12:30, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Currently 4 out of the 6 articles that link to filling are about food.  So if anything, filling should redirect to Filling (cooking) and there should be a disambiguation to dental filling!  So go for it! Samw 13:31, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree with the first comment.  A disambiguation page should be created. - Dozenist talk 23:01, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Created Filling (disambiguation), made Filling redirect to Filling (cooking). -- X-Man 07:53, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm afraid I'll have to disagree with the redir.  "Filling", in my mind, is much more commonly associated with a dental filling than food stuffing.  The relative size of the two articles also gives me pause in re a redirect to the cooking one.  Finally, although more Wikipedia articles originally linking to "filling" might have been pointing to the cooking article, compare the number of articles now linking to the cooking article with the number now linking to the dental article.  I'm redirecting to the disambig page unless a more clear consensus to the contrary is reached (and, if it has to point to one of the two, I would vote the dental article, myself). - Jersyko·talk 03:06, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You said you're redirecting to the disambig page, but instead you changed it to redirect to Dental fillings. I've edited the redirect to point to the disambiguation. I think that the cooking-related meaning of the word filling is what most of the people think of when they hear the word, while the dentistry term is only used by specialists. It's the same as making the word window redirect to Window (computing) just because there are so many articles written about graphical user interfaces. So, I think it should redirect to disambiguation because it's a reasonable consensus. -- X-Man 12:29, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For the record, I was the one who suggested redirecting to the disambig page, not Jersyko.  He was supporting his own argument.  Which, by the way, I also believe most people think of "fillings" in reference to teeth.  Specialists would be more inclined to say restoration or name the material used, (amalgam, glass ionomer, composite, etc.).  - Dozenist talk 12:37, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the redirect from [[filling]] 

message: There is no mention of how fillings are done on the Dental fillings page ?
My questions would be:
 - how does the amalgam bond to the teeth
There is no bonding of the amalgam to the tooth.  All chemical reactions during the setting of amalgam are limited to the metal and do not interact with the tooth.Donnie 08:28, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How are fillings done? 

message: In the indirect restoration section, under gold, the article states:
There are two categories of gold fillings, cast gold fillings ( gold inlays and onlays ) made with 14 or 18 kt gold, and gold foil made with pure 24 kt gold that is burnished layer by layer.
Are not gold foil restorations DIRECT restorations?  Should not the mention of gold foil be taken out of the indirect section, and placed in its own category under the direct section?  I realize Gold Foil restorations are very rare these days(probably more to do with time factors and cost than to any clinical factors), but I'm sure there are still a few docs still doing them.
: Good point. Add it in. Also Composite resin can be used as an indirect restoration. Bouncingmolar (talk) 15:56, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gold Direct and Indrect restorations 

message: I think that this page should not discuss the histories or even overly the types and compositions of the materials ie amalgam discusses history, galvanic shock, and composition. This should instead be located on the amalgam page, which I will move to and let the amalgam people sort out.... as i think that is a closely monitored page. This is the same for the other materials as well.. however they do not seem to have attracted the same kind of attention in the first placeBouncingmolar (talk) 15:56, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Direction for this page

message: The section on failure of fillings reads a lot like an ad for gold fillings. Or is it just me? 75.210.163.68 (talk) 00:59, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's not just you.  I feel like I've just read a print version of those "BUY GOLD" commercials on Fox. Ayocee (talk) 21:39, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Tone?

message: I'm looking at the section about gold fillings, and I agree with the 2 y.o. comment above.  The section does read like an advert for gold fillings.  I looked at the references, and I see that two of the sources are from a dentist who recommends gold fillings...
I'm assuming good faith.  I am not a dentist, and in fact, these statements may be true.  I cannot evaluate these statements, since dentistry is so far outside my area.  So, I'm leaving them here for now, but I will remove most of this section if I cannot find better sources and neutral, reputable sources. Roodog2k (talk) 13:51, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I decided to go ahead and WP:BEBOLD. William Avery (talk) 07:28, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV/Undue Weight - Use of gold as dental restorative material 

message: Before 2007 this article was called "Dental fillings", but at that time was changed to "Dental restorative materials". In March 2014 it was changed to "Dental materials". I just changed it to "Dental material" because Wikipedia article titles typically take the singular.  Blue Rasberry (talk) 19:53, 16 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of article