Talk:White South Africans

message: I think this section is inaccurate (or at the very least incomplete), and probably biased. but my source of knowledge isn't citable, so i'm raising it here rather than editing the page. 
"Between 1995 and 2005, more than one million South Africans emigrated, citing violent and racially motivated black on white crime as the main reason, as well as the lack of employment opportunities for whites.[19]" 
I'm from Australia and there were a lot of South Africans and Zimbabweans in the community where i grew up in the 1990s and early 2000s. None of them described fear of violence as the major motivating factor for leaving. 
Their motives were more often economic, or just that the felt Australia was a more pleasant place to live. But not "it was dangerous there" just "it's more pleasant here".
And the economic motives weren't about there being specifically few opportunities for white people in southern Africa, more a general lack of opportunity and the white people were those who could afford to emigrate. Australia's immigration intake often advantages things like education, and can pretty blatantly favour wealth. So it would impact their likelihood of being accepted as well as the expense of moving. 
Irtapil (talk) 07:53, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm from the city with the highest number of white SA immigrants post-apartheid and everyone I know here is fully aware of how *wildly* disproportionately racist white saffas are. The chances that you yourself are racist simply covering for other racists are through the roof. What white saffas publicly claim is the reason they left is whatever they choose to claim publicly. It's usually after a few minutes' conversation that they lit slip some horrific racism. Bucktricycle (talk) 08:54, 8 June 2022 (UTC)

text: Wow, another racist white saffa Bucktricycle (talk) 08:45, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasons for emigration 

message: The lists of WSAns at the end of the article are constantly growing without any practical limit (except total article length). Inclusion/exclusion seems to be completely arbitrary (editors simply add their own favourites). Imho these lists should be removed, they serve no encyclopedic purpose. :Category:White South African people is much better than these open ended "random sample" lists. Roger (Dodger67) (talk) 16:34, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. It's also an absurd category/section to begin with and I'm sure every addition to this list is motivated by white supremacy. The "White people" article has no such list, and is dominated by discussion of the imperialist history of the classification of "whiteness" and institutional racism, as this article *should* also. It's clear most of this article is editorialised from an extremely racist perspective. Bucktricycle (talk) 08:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists of people 

message: hi 50.26.238.66 (talk) 03:03, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: hey 41.114.193.252 (talk) 17:12, 3 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  hi 

message: This picture was published without the knowledge of the person in it.
Please take it down.
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thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 4 March 2023 

message: I have moved Elon Musk and Mark Shuttleworth out of the "Science and technology" subsection and into the "Business" section, because while they are involved in technology-intensive industries, they have not themselves been significant contributors to the field of science. They have, however, played a significant role in commercializing certain technologies in the realm of business.
Shuttleworth, as the "first African in space" also does not qualify to be in the science and technology section because he paid to go to space as a tourist; he did not go to space for scientific contributions, nor was he sent there by any agency as a specialist.
Therefore, while both Musk and Shuttleworth are associated with technology-intensive industries, they are themselves primarily business figures rather than scientific figures.
DanielMichaelPerry (talk) 14:35, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elon Musk and Mark Shuttleworth