Talk:South Slavs

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message: This is very poor document. It is seething with nationalism and poorly describes the history of the region. Funnily the Serbs still claim Croatia and Bosnia, please grow up and stop it. Serbian's were east of the Drina divided by the religion with the separation of the eastern orthodox churches and western christian.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.144.0.226 (talk) 12:19, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing of which you whinge about is true. i donlt think the article anywhwere claims that Serbia should rule Bosnia or Croatia. However it depict that at some points in history, medieval Serbia extended into Bosnia (west of Drina) and southern Dalmatia. That is a historical fact regardless of what you wish or feel. Slovenski Volk (talk) 10:43, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  very poor document 

message: I have added extra information in the infobox and reorganized the images in the gallery. I have divided the gallery into two parts: personalities and sights. I have included one prominent personality from every South Slavic nation and one famous place of every South Slavic country. Maybe we can add some pictures of the national dresses of each SS nation (one picture per nation). best--MacedonianBoy (talk) 10:36, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorganization

message: Where is Croatia? Or smaller west adriatic Sclavinias? Where is Panonia/Savia? --Čeha (razgovor) 20:31, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: this nonsense is growing way out of proportion. first of all. according to byzantine sources first slavic unified subject was the macedonian sclavinia. it was not kingdom or khaganat, but unified subject comprised of all the sclavinias. until the 9th century there is no other slavic entity. it had kings, like rex (hacon)chatzon and rex (pribond)perbundos. it was destroyed by combined efforts of byzantines and bulgars.
second of all. byzantine sources call all the tribes from istria to epirus and black sea, as macedonian slavs. there is no mention of serbs and croats. not until 9th-10th ct. i don't know where did you come up with that?
and third of all. only in english language there is a difference between bulgars and bulgarians. otherwise, in slavic is just "blgari". not blgari v.s. blgarijanci. we call "Blgari" the turkmen tribes of russia, and we call blgari (they call themselves) the people living in thrace. this is done in order to erase the turkcicity of the bulgars by double naming the same peoples and to full the english speaking spectator.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.205.59.148 (talk) 01:22, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Slavic states

message: Why is Macedonian sclavinia deliberately left out of this article? there is no even mention under the graph of slavic states. all we know, confirmed sources about slavs, are byzantine sources. not some hidden wooden plates, book of veles and other nonsense. as procopius cesarensis mentions, as well as other byzantine sources, miracles of saint demetrius etc. the first slavic organized unity was called macedonian sclavinia (not some Samo kingdom). it had kings like rex hacon, rex pribond, thomas the slav. all the slavic tribes mentioned in byzantine sources are macedonian slavs rinhiniti, draguviti, ezeriti, vajuniti, smolyani, strumjani, sagudati, velegziti, bereziti, milingoi. byzantine sources dont mention serbs or croats, or bosniaks, or montenegrins as slavic pressence in the balkans earlier than 10th ct. and bulgars are mentioned as byzantine turkic allies in the fight against macedonian slavs. here are all the byzantine references, concerning slavs in the balkans, and all you'll find are those tribes i mentioned. macedonian slavs. nothing more, nothing less. https://archive.org/details/ByzantineSourcesForHistoryOfThePeoplesOfYugoslavia  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.205.59.148 (talk) 19:33, 5 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: During the early Middle Ages, the Byzantine historians categorized the numerous Slavic tribal unions on the early Medieval Balkans as 'Sclavinias' and often associated them with particular tribes. In the 8-th century, Theophanes the Confessor reported that the emperor Constantine V captured the Macedonian Sklavinias (small, tribal unions of the Slavs who settled the Balkans after the collapse of the Avars). The Slavs were self-governing in their extended families and districts, and their tribal organization was sufficiently strong to abolish Byzantine rule in the Balkans. The modern Macedonian historians have described it as some kind of primary ethno-political entity, but such views are extremely doubtful. These Slavs did not have sufficient state-building skills, they failed to unite them and in the 8th century they were reconquered by the Byzantines. On the other hand, Florin Curta describe the great Slavic invasion of the 6th and 7th century on the Balkans and particularly in Macedonia as a historical exaggeration. Thus, the construction of the first South Slavic states was organized by the Croats, Serbs and Bulgars and the local (Slavic) population in today Republic of Macedonia was first conquered by the Bulgars in the middle of the 9th century. 88.203.200.74 (talk) 09:53, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I give you a book, with all the byzantine sources cited, and yet you think you know better? "and now, in that way almost all of Epirus, Hellada, the Peloponnese and Macedonia have also been settled by these Skiti-Slavs. (Strabonos Epithomatus)". That is not something minor, and i have read Florin Curta. These are confirmed Byzantine sources. read the e-book before deleting my edit. WP:ADMIN. 79.126.181.13 (talk) 10:02, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: You can improve my edit instead of deleting it. we're here for facts, not modern versions of history.79.126.181.13 (talk) 10:05, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Why you deleted all the slavic states? you call that neutrality? WP:ADMIN help.79.126.181.13 (talk) 11:05, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Macedonian sclavinia 

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message: It is currently being proposed that Category:Slavic countries and territories be deleted. This article is related to that category. The relevant discussion is located at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2020 January 8#Countries and territories by language family. The discussion would benefit from input from editors with a knowledge of and interest in South Slavs. Krakkos (talk) 11:17, 10 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed deletion of [[:Category:Slavic countries and territories|Category:Slavic countries and territories]] 

message: Who came up with this nonsense. There is not such thing as South Slavs. Same as there are no North Slavs. Delete this bull... It is just racist.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sirma Vojvoda (talk • contribs) 22:30, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  There is no such thing as South Slavs...