Talk:Voiceless uvular plosive

message: The example of  in Inuktitut contradicts the Voiced uvular plosive article (where it is given as [ihipɢeoqtoq]). Mo-Al 23:27, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a contradiction, but I can imagine how it is very confusing to readers.  Both sounds are uvular stops and the same example, a word that has both sounds, is used.  Perhaps changing the example word in one of the pages would be appropriate.  Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 04:18, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is the vowels though - nowhere is it stated when /i/ and /u/ are allophonically realized as [e] and [o], so unless they are in free variation (which there does not seem to be a source for currently) the pages are still in contradiction. Mo-Al 04:03, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The two articles don't contradict anymore because they have the exact same word transcribed exactly the same.  I fixed it almost a month ago and if someone decides that the [e] [o] thing ought to be reflected in the transcription then they can change both.  Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 11:06, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, okay, but I'm going to make it a phonemic, not phonetic, description with slashes. Mo-Al 19:25, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Good idea.  Æµ§œš¹ [aɪm ˈfɻɛ̃ⁿdˡi] 19:34, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Inuktitut contradiction

message: The Avar language doesn't have the fortis stop [q:]. Instead, it has two fortis affricates - the aspirated [q͡χʰ:] and the ejective [q͡χʼ:]. The Wikipedia page for Avar has the correct table for these sounds.--Mahtrqerin (talk) 02:37, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  No [q] in Avar 

message: I sometimes hear [q] in American English before [ɫ]. For example, American clear sounds like  to me (a non-American). Is that correct? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.204.80.169 (talk) 01:01, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What country do you live in?? Georgia guy (talk) 13:57, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why would that matter? The question is whether /k/ is sometimes pronounced [q] or at least something between that and [k] in the position mentioned. Do you have information about this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.204.85.34 (talk) 15:41, 31 August 2016 (UTC)

text:  PS: I'm the one who asked this question more than two years ago. Now, since then I've found out that a retracted pronunciation of /k/ (generally not quite reaching [q]) is a fairly common feature of Multicultural London English. This is somewhat unrelated since in this accent it has nothing to do with an adjacent [ɫ], but at least it proves that a retracted [k]~[q] does exist in English as such. I still think that I've heard it in American English in the position described above. 178.4.151.28 (talk) 00:57, 29 March 2019 (UTC)

text:  PPS: I've just come across a very distinct example of what I mean. In this video, between 1:03:55 and 1:04:05, the bald speaker (a fairly well-known political analyst, whose name I forgot) says the word "clear" with a uvular stop (or at least a very retracted velar stop) three times. I don't know if I've ever heard it as distinctly as in this example. It may tend to be a bit less uvular, but it's definitely a thing. 90.186.170.236 (talk) 08:29, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: To me it just sounds like an overly forced/emphasized velar stop. Emdosis (talk) 23:37, 27 May 2024 (UTC)

text:  Another example here, this time not before /l/ but /w/. Speaker says "quiet" with a uvular stop twice between 02:15 and the end of the video. 178.4.151.40 (talk) 01:34, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  American English