Talk:Haitian (Heroes)

message: If Sylar can negate powers to an extant, as he seemed to in Fallout, the Haitian may have been nullifying those negation powers in Homecoming. This would mean that the Haitian's nullifying powers are stronger than Sylar's, and explain why Eden's powers worked on Sylar in Homecoming. Only problem is that I fear this is big speculation. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 07:45, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is. Eden willed Sylar not to attack then put him to sleep. The Haitian didn't seem to do anything. My guess would be that like the Voice in the Dune series, Sylar just figured out how to resist it. He's good at that sort of thing. The only powers he is confirmed capable of nullifying are mentally-oriented ones. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 07:59, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Should his page be fixed? Currently it seems to be saying that he can nullify all powers. Yet when Nathan Pettrelli was nearby him, he was still able to fly off (Hiros).--cong06 23:44, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  That seems to be more of catching the Haitian out, or could even have been an order from Angela Petrelli, I know the latter of those is OR, but since this is the only occurrence of the power not blocking, it seems more likely that It was surprise more than the specific power. Jacobshaven3 16:35, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

text: We will probably get to find out.  Peter meeting Matt was weird enough...--Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) 05:13, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big speculation 

message: Can we come to a consensus on what to list under his "superpower" description on his template other than "telepathy"? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) (talk • contribs) 08:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "One-way" telepathy? "Disruptive" telepathy? It's fine as just telepathy. – Someguy0830 (T | C) 09:22, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I think Telepathy is a good description. He hasn't shown any mind-reading abilities, however, I think that at least memory-reading abilities are implied by the way he can selectively erase very specific things. The ability to read memories in real-time seems pretty close to mind-reading. The telepath-blocking ability may be passive because Mr. Bennet and the Haitian didn't seem to be aware Matt was watching them at Primatech Paper, and Matt was still blocked. --Stabbey 13:57, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Possibly, but it's not a general power negation, Nathan was able to fly away. So far he's only been shown to inhibit mind reading or mind influencing powers. I'm sticking with Telepathy for the moment. --Stabbey 04:18, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't the Haitian negate Sylar's telekentic abilities also?--Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) 05:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not clear if the Haitian was preventing Sylar from using his powers or if it was the construction of the room or something else entirely.  In the last graphic novel, (spoiler) Bennet and the Haitian run into Sylar's cell immediately after he uses his powers to bring Eden through the glass, so Sylar was able to use his powers even with the Haitian nearby.  Of course, it's not clear if the Haitian has to "turn on" his powers, either - we just don't know the exact nature or extent of his power negating ability. -Big Smooth 18:01, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Haitian's telepathic jamming seems to be a passive effect. He and Mr. Bennet didn't seem to be aware of Matt watching him outside of Primatech Paper. Given how cover-up happy and paranoid he is, I doubt Mr. Bennet wanted Matt to see him with the Haitian. --Stabbey 21:33, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Just because he wasn't aware that Matt was there doesn't mean he wasn't deliberately using his "jamming" - he could have been generally inhibiting any powers in the vicinity.  Nathan's escape could be due to his care in not revealing his powers - if Bennett and the Haitian believed that Nathan was unaware of his powers (and/or were unaware of what his powers were) then the Haitian might not have bothered to inhibit them, although this is pure speculation. Branfish 07:58, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually, it's not a passive effect because in Episode 20, the Haitian is right next to Matt, and Matt is able to read minds at he same time. It seems that the Haitian is able to fix his abilities so that they don't affect people if he doesn't want them to, since at the same time, he's "preventing" Hiro from escaping.--Cong06 02:34, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

text: His power hasn't really been described in the show, so I can't say for sure.  However, his powers seem to be based around the disruption of higher brain functions (explaining why he is able to erase memories and prevent Mind Reading and Persuasion).  Other than the powers of Eden, Matt, and Sylar (Fallout, when he tried to resist Eden's Persuasion), there is no sign of a general negation power (Nathan could still fly, and though he has had contact with Claire, her power has not been needed while he was nearby).  This would also explain his memory erasing powers (able to block or erase the thoughts which would likely be the foremost thoughts in the minds of his victims, such as Matt and Sprague's imprisonment by Bennet and the Haitian himself).  However, the ability to selectively erase memories and thoughts (in the webcomic after Fallout, Bennet tells him to 'leave the guilt') also suggests some level of recognition of mental function tying into his power.  Due to his comfort with his power, it is also a possibility that he has, like Claude, had his power for years. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.95.226.116 (talk) 22:30, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I like this description. It seems to explain Hiro's captivity around The Haitian better then others. I wouldn't say that blocking Hiro's power falls under "blocking telepathic powers." Since Hiro's isn't Telepathic. It's clear, though, that it does require a good deal of concentration. So do we say the Haitian's power is: "Limiting Higher Brain Functions"? That sounds a bit...tacky, but I guess there's no other way of saying it while being accurate.--Cong06 02:34, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: His power description

message: Should we mention that he pretended to be mute. When Eden was trying to get Mr.Bennet to kill Sylar she mentions that "he would tell you to if he could speak" while looking at the haitian, and then he speaks to Calra.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.157.5.206 (talk) 18:39, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was purposeful but was it deceptive?  Did he try to make people believe he was mute or did he just not talk?  There is a difference.  Padillah 15:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pretends to be mute. 

message: I've removed that as being original research. For the time being, all we know is that he can interfere with powers. However, we do not know if this is only mental based powers, or superpowers in general. Being specific like that and saying that he can block mental powers only is wrong because no one has said that yet. dposse 21:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I rhink you made a good move, dposse.  Certain scenes in the show have implied that the Haitian interferes with Matt's telepathy, and the Matt character has observed that the Haitiain was nearby when his telepathy hasn't worked.  Because of that, people have inferred that the reason that Mr. Bennet told Eden that "her powers won't work here" when she was first captured was because the Haitian was present.  As for Sylar's psychokinesis during his captivity, people have assumed that the Haitian was preventing him from using it (although Bennet and the Haitian felt comfortable enough to leave the building while Sylar was in his cell, suggesting that they trusted that something else was keeping Sylar's powers in check).  But neither the show nor any other source to my knowledge has ever stated directly that the Haitian can block powers. Primogen 21:47, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, but i'm not saying that he can't block powers. I believe he can block powers, but i think saying that he blocks only "mental based" ones when there is no evidence one way to the other is wrong. Perhaps there is middle ground here, like we did with Micah? Or shall we wait until the second part of season one? dposse 00:44, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think he can block powers too, but I don't think any episode has direct evidence of this.  Several episodes strongly implied he can block mental powers, but I don't know if it meets the standard of verifiability.  I think we did directly see Micah using a power to affect the phone -- we just can't point to a source saying exactly what that power is.  So, I'm not sure that we can say that the Haitian can block powers yet -- especially since Bennet told Sylar that he's never seen anyone before with more than one power. Primogen 05:16, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

text: On further comment, we haven't actually seen him block someone using their power, we've merely seen him make a power uneffective. For example, when Matt was in the bar, he could hear everyone, except the Haitian, it wasn't that the Haitian block Matt using his power, he prevented his thoughts being detected.Jacobshaven3 11:26, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: After Matt unsuccessfully tried to read Claire's thoughts while she was being interviewed by Audrey, he said that he felt interference.  The show then implied that the Haitian was causing the interference by showing his presence right after Matt makes the comment.  I'm not sure that's direct enough to make any claims in the article, but if it is, the term I would use is "telepathy interference." Primogen 19:45, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should just leave it as "unspecified power negation" for now. Just like with Micah, until we get some definative proof either way, it should be catagorized as "unspecified power negation". dposse 20:19, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that it is not power negation as evidenced by Nathan being able to fly away while in close proximity to the Haitian and even moreso that Matt can continue to use his telepathy, it simply can't read the thoughts and instead "hears" static. –– Lid(Talk) 13:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We have the same problem with Micah. We know that he has Technopathy just by the definition of the word. However, until someone says that Micah can repair any  technology because his power is only Technopathy and not something else, it's original research. It's the same thing here. We do not know that it is only "mental based" powers he can block. For now, it's better to leave it as "unspecified power negation". Like WP:V says, "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth." dposse 13:24, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, technically, no. "Instant erasure" would leave no room for what Matt has done. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 17:38, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not being difficult, but that last sentence made no sense to me; could you rephrase it? Branfish 01:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not trying to be, anyway. Ha! My point was that if knowledge is erased from one mind's within minutes of learning it, Matt wouldn't be able to "grab" the names "Claire" and "Sylar" from Bennet or the Haitian; Matt would forget whatever he learned too fast to properly register it. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 01:40, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, whatever the Haitian's technique, it's clearly not perfect if Matt can get round it slightly, so I see no reason to assume that the technique I suggested would be any less fallible.  It's irrelevent anyway, because I wasn't suggesting that that actually was what he did, I was just demonstrating that we have no real proof that he has more than one power, and so as yet no reason to disbelieve Mr. Bennet. Branfish 02:37, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with dposse and have removed the paragraph describing the nullifying powers.  To date we don't have anything remotly close to an affermation of his ability to negate others powers.  And, in light of recent episodes questioning his loyalty to The Company, I think it's fair to suggest that any lack of effect could be attributed to his not wanting to stop the others powers (i.e. he didn't want to stop Peter or Nathan since he didn't want The Company to capture them).  Until the show can reach some sort of concensus we can't possibly be expected to.  If it's allowed for I'd recommend describing the allusion to his powers (since Mr Bennet does allude to them).  Padillah 14:42, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to partially disagree with User:Padillah. The part with preventing or trying to prevent the Petrellis' powers is somewhat speculative, as is Padillah's comment on whether the Haitian chose to not, or could not, nullify them. However, the facts are that he has completely nullified Eden's power ("Six Months Ago") and that he can severely inhibit Matt's power on several occasions, and he has some control over its usage since Eden has used her persuasion while in his presence. --Pentasyllabic 17:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, you're right.  I guess we have to make a concentrated effort to determine what we actually know about his powers.  I am utterly unconvinced that his power makes distinction between mental and physical powers.  I'd be more inclined to accept this if it turned out he was shielding others minds rather than affecting the person with the powers but since his only exposure to physical powers has been two occasions that we can expect he wanted the subject to escape (speculation, of course, but so is my assertion that his power is limited).  That he is doing something is an acceptable supposition (since his power is passive, and has been claimed to be reproduced by technology when Sylar was in the holding room at Primatech, we can't be sure that it is, in fact, the Haitian that is causing the effect).  However, we can't be entirely sure what it is he's done exactly.  So how do we handle this?  Padillah 01:01, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interference of mental-based superpowers 

message: I have two things to say. Since we don't know all of the Haitian's abilities yet, perhaps it would be better to list is powers as "Unknown Psychic Abilities, including memory removal and interference of telepathy and suggestion." The other thing I wanted to ask is, what other abilities does he have? Can he knock people out?It seems that even though Eden commanded Sylar to sleep in "Homecoming", he didn't fall until the Haitian grabbed him, suggesting that it was a combination of both his and Eden's powers to put him down. It's possible that he had a pad soaked with Chloroform or something in his hand when he knocked out Sylar. Still, if "Hiro's," Mr. Bennet told the Haitian to "put him down" when they tried to capture Nathan Petrelli. He also told the Haitian to "dig deep" when the captured Matt, suggesting that he is able to search his memories. Perhaps when he has physical contact with another person, he is able to mentally link with them and alter their minds in ways such as causing unconciousness and searching for and blocking off memories. I understand that this is speculation, but I feel it is at least worth considering and keeping in mind when viewing episodes, as it may help us understand his abilities. Briham 00:38, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See Talk:The_Haitian#Interference_of_mental-based_superpowers. We know that he can remove memories, as he said himself during Fallout. We also know that he has some sort of power negation. What we do not know at this moment in time is if the power negation is for only "mental-based" abilites or for super powers in general. Until we get confirmation from in the show or from a writer of the show, everything is speculation, and speculation has no place on wikipedia. dposse 14:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know, I know. I said I realized it was speculation. I put it on the talk page because I wanted to point out the possibility of other powers. There seems to be so much focus on power negation that I wanted to make sure everyone kept in mind other abilities that may have been implied. Briham 15:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Powers 

message: I'm not sure if this has been pointed out or discussed.
Is it definite that the mental powers belong to the Haitian?  For all intensive purposes, both Bennett and the Haitian are around when this occurs, and the only time I remember seeing the Haitian alone is with Claire. I know Bennett says the Haitian is the one stopping Matt, but is there any instance where the Haitian stops this alone?  Also, is it definite that Bennett is without powers?  If I remember correctly, when he met with Sylar through the glass of the white room, he was alone and Sylar was unable to control him.
If anyone can answer these, please do so as soon as possible, because it is bugging me. Ludichrisspeed 05:13, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Three words: One Giant Leap. The end, specifically. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 08:26, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Even better, in Six Months Ago, he manages to capture Eden, whose power of Persuasion would otherwise be quite effective in preventing capture —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.95.226.116 (talk) 22:38, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question on Mental-Based Powers 

message: My interpretation was that he thinks that the powers ARE God and not simply "from" a God. Can someone update the article with the correct quotation and reference? Thanks. 71.225.125.176 14:49, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Powers ARE God 

message: I removed the speculation from the powers and abilities.  Personally, I don't think that his mere presence negates powers, telepathic or otherwise.
If indeed true, as Mr. Bennet said, that the characters can only have one power the answer is pretty obvious to me:  telepathy.  I guess you guys got into a whole argument with "unspecified power negation."  That's just a by-product of his real power.  Let's use Professor X for example:
*mind wipes:  Erased Magneto's memory (multiple times), the whole story of X-Men: Deadly Genesis, etc.
*telepathic shielding:  can shield his own thoughts and that of others.  The Haitian's presence isn't interfering with Matt's and Eden's powers.  In Matt's case shielding the thoughts of Mr. Bennet.  Or in Eden's case, he's protecting his mind from her "suggestions."
*mind reading:  to erase specific parts of someones memories he would have to be able to "see" what he's erasing.
*power negation:  If he wants Professor X could just shut down the part of the brain that controls your powers.  While the Haitian has yet to stop someone with non-mental abilities, I'm pretty sure he'd be able to stop the, uh, flying guy from fying.
"the communication of information from one mind to another by means other than the known perceptual senses"
I think there's some sort of information exchange between minds because the Haitian can erase specific memories.
--EXV // + @ 09:24, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Powers and abilities 

message: Slim... errrr ummmmm "Claude" did I hear that right? Did Mr. Bennit say "Claude this will have to wait" or something to that effect? --Bushido Brown 03:08, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: His name is...

message: :In the Loyalty article, it is stated "Although The Haitian works for Mr. Bennet and AWI..." So who or what is AWI? It's not mentioned in Bennet's profile nor on the Primatech article? -- (Mrja84 20:22, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For those reasons, I removed the references.  Until someone can give a reason to call it AWI, it should be left out of the article.  216.165.38.83 01:58, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: AWI is an abbreviation used at Heroes Wiki for the Agency Without Initials.  It's a reference to when Mr. Bennet tells Matt that he doesn't work for an organization whose name uses initials. - fmmarianicolon | Talk 20:50, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: AWI??

message: Is it a plothole that people always seem to know he's Haitian, even when though there's no way for them to know that? I haven't scrutinized this or anything, but I feel like at least Parkman and Sprague have mentioned the Haitian without ever having heard him referred to as such? -VJ 00:19, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've verified that quote from the particular episode downloaded as torrents. But I agree, ppl have been refering him as the Haitian even before learning where he's from. I guess it's from a word of mouth. --Kvasir 18:16, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Most recent comic states he's from Haiti. Jacobshaven3 09:56, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How do people know he's Haitian? 

message: I think the Haitian can cancel others powers out by using his memory wipe power, he can make a person to temporarly forget how to control there ability by being near them, but to make them forget perminitly he has touch them- RREDD13 19:15, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Negation 

message: Has anyone else picked up on the play-on-words with this character? Initially he was mute, or known to be mute, and a Haitian. A Mute Haitian... which sounds a LOT like Mutation if you say it fast enough. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MarkyMarc413 (talk • contribs) 04:32, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hehe..nice one.--Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) 16:27, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good call. --Kvasir 18:16, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Mute Haitian 

message: All right, some people have been engaging in edit wars with me. Some summaries on NBC's website always capitalise "The" in his name, but some don't (like the recent one). So what is it? 24.83.211.180 01:31, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a tough one. I guess it would by "the Haitian", just like we say "the Hulk". But i'm not too sure. dposse 13:03, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to move it to The Haitian. That seems the consensus here, and I've never seen him referred to without the "The".--Pushsense 09:48, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Move reverted - there's been no consensus established, let alone any discussion about a move. There is also no concrete proof as to whether "The" (capitalized) is part of a formal name, or if the phrase means "the (guy who is) Haitian". --Ckatzchatspy 19:26, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Haitian" or "the Haitian?" 

message: In Five Years Gone, Hiro says the Haitian can disrupt their powers, thus he can block all powers? Sylar, in one episode (I can't remember which, the one with the phone conversation with Chandra Suresh) says something like "You were right, it's in the brain". If the Haitians power is mental manipulation, theoretically, he could "block" the bit with the powers? Meh, seemed logical. Blkmasta 17.11 GMT 02 May 2007
:Let's not get into speculation. All we know is what we have learned so far, and that is that Future Hiro stated that he can "disrupt" abilites. dposse 23:50, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Negation 

message: I'm changing the wording because I don't think others overcomming the Haitians negating powers are a measure of the power of the other hero, not a lack of ability on the part of the Haitian.  That Matt overcame enough to get a single word from HRG even with the Haitian blocking him speaks to Matt's power, not the Haitian failing.  Padillah 12:34, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Others using powers around the Haitian 

message: :'... in "Five Years Gone", the Haitian is aligned with Matt Parkman in Homeland Security. This is strange, since he has previously said that the powers of the heroes were "gifts from God," yet he was working to wipe them out. Also, this would imply that his loyalty to Angela Petrelli is either not very deep, or...'
I just took it to imply that life in that future sucks, and that the Haitian and Parkman are doing what they think they have to do to survive.
—wwoods 18:57, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future allegiance 

message: The Haitian's abilities include the prevention of certain mental-based abilities (and quite possibly, physical abilities as well, though this will be examined below) and wiping memories from people (those seen in the series tend to lose recent memories primarily, though there may be instances of more specific memory removal).  As of the latest comics, it is known that he could negate his father's abilities and turn an entire village into zombies when he lost control.  As such, it appears that his power revolves around blocking the higher brain functions of others.  Powers that don't need to be 'activated' (such as Claire's Spontaneous Regeneration) would be theoretically more difficult for him to prevent (though such a situation has never arised, so this cannot be verified).  Of course, the element of surprise may explain why neither Nathan or Peter was prevented from flying.
In light of the ending to the graphic novel It Takes a Village, I think his power section needs to be rewritten. It seems that his power is that he can get into your mind where he can search your memories and read them. If he chooses, he can either show the memories to you or remove them from your head completely. How this relates to power negation does not seem clear at this time. (Slick023 15:37, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Hatitian's Power Examined 

message: Is there a reason the image of the Haitian holding Claire is in the article twice? --iTocapa t 18:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image used twice 

message: Can we stop with the "secretly" working with Angela Petrelli?  It has been revealed more than once that Mrs. Petrelli and has connections to Mr. Linderman who runs the company so there's no reason for Mrs. Petrelli to keep herself secret from the very people that have her allegiance.
For those of you that missed last season: Mrs. Petrelli knew and worked with Mr. Linderman who employed Thompson to guide Nathan through the "Exploding Man" scenario.  Thompson worked for the company.  Sure, Mr. Bennet may not have known about her but then it turns out there's much he didn't know.  Not that it was kept secret, he simply wasn't important enough to know.  Padillah 12:36, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Secretly" working for Angela Petrelli 

message: In "Crossroads" when Mohinder enters the Haitian's room, I thought I heard him say the name of the patient that he is about to treat before we find out it's the Haitian. I didn't hear it that well, because it was so quick, but it sounded like "Au Jean" or something like that. Could someone look into it? Lore aura 19:19, 3 October 2007
We're not that lucky. what he said was Ja'mapple Mohinder suresh.my name is mohinder suresh 
Je suis Médecin  i am a doctorSpread The Word 17:22, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haitian's name revealed? 

message: Can someone change the picture of The Haitian holding Claire for his Bio Pic. it makes him look pedofile almost  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Homeman892003 (talk • contribs) 17:24, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Haitian's Picture

message: The reason I am reverting the assertions regarding the Haitian's power being physical is because it's speculation and not notable.  How the power works does not change anything and it applies real-world limitations to decidedly non-real world phenomenon.  To logically discuss the mechanics behind a fictional characters powers work is the pinnacle of silly.  No one is discussing how Claire's powers work, or Nathan's... or, indeed anyone else's.  If it were a plot point, that would be different but thus far it hasn't proved to be the case.  Also, if we allow this line of reasoning then we open up lines like "psychopathy is a chemical imbalance in the brain and therefore Adam's blood can heal it." and that is a road paved with OR.  It has already started with the speculation regarding an almost insignificant event now, Mrs. Bennet's hospital stay.  Now we've got people saying it was the Haitian and completely dismissing that she was thrown across a house!  That Peter could heal from the effects of it is close enough, the reader can figure out the rest.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Padillah (talk • contribs) 20:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Haitian's power Revisited. 

message: The Haitian has the power to remove memories. Fair enough. But he can also interfere with telepathy and stop a hero's powers, or at least mental ones. This seemed completely random to me at first, which didn't seem right. But then I realized that he has one "overall" power, the ability to affect minds. He can removes memories from the mind, and he can stop communication between minds.
:irrelelvant speculationAdroa (talk) 00:53, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The Haitian's Powers

message: There are like 400 statements about this.  All the abililties are mind based, as Sylar is able to steal people's powers based off their brains.  In the interview it was stated that "There is a connection between their powers and their brains, and Sylar has found it" meaning that all these abilities are mentally based.Adroa (talk) 22:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Haitians power blocking mental abilities 

message: The description of his powers state that tose with cellular regenration can reverse the memory loss, but how do we know this?  We only know that Adam's abilities can reverse these effects, as Adam is shown as knowing how to do this, and if Claire happens to lack this ability Peter gained it when he met Adam.  For all we know  Adam's power is unique in this aspect therefore, I'm removing this statement.  We should not assume powers are identicle because thye appear the same in some aspects.Adroa (talk) 22:26, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cellular Regenration 

message: So since his name's been revealed (Rene), should this page be moved to  Rene (Heroes) instead of Haitian (Heroes)? Of course, the redirect would still exist but now that his name's been revealed, people are calling him Rene and it's not THAT much of a spoiler (if that matters) because we still only have a first name --75.104.162.185 (talk) 03:15, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No. He is still most well known as The Haitian. Ωphois 09:57, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move? 

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