Talk:Nirvana discography

message: Those repackaged two-in-one "box sets" shouldn't be included here.  There's nothing unique to them. -- ChrisB 22:36, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Other" Releases

message: So when will there be a new album Fecal Metter Demo ? Does anyone know ?
:I doubt the Fecal Matter demo will ever be released.  Kurt was kind of embarrassed by it, which might help explain why it hasn't surfaced in bootleg circles. (And why only one song was included on Sliver.)  We're more likely to see a live release than anything else, but there's been no specific discussion of anything.  -- ChrisB 00:30, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Album ?

message: There have only been 14 singles. The others were radio promos not available to buy as singles.
:Radio promos are counted as singles for our purposes. --Brandt Luke Zorn 20:21, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Singes

message: I'm not sure I like this section.  Nearly all of the songs that could be listed here aren't Nirvana songs - they're Cobain demos.  I know that many similar Cobain demos were released as "Nirvana" songs on With the Lights Out and The Best of the Box (including The Jury demos, which weren't Nirvana at all), but I don't think his demos should automatically count or be considered as Nirvana recordings for the point of the discography.  (And, honestly, "Montage of Heck" and "Escalator to Hell" aren't even songs.)
If we include those, then we end up moving the direction of including Fecal Matter songs as Cobain demos (and "Nirvana songs").  And those songs (save for the ones they actually played) are not Nirvana songs.
We have so much territory that we can cover without including the unreleased material - I feel like we should stay away from it.  It's already mentioned in the Nirvana article that other material remains unreleased - there's not much encyclopedic value in specifically naming that material.  I really believe we should stick to the items that have been officially released as Nirvana material. -- ChrisB 04:34, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You can take the list part down, if you think it shouldn't be there. To be honest, I only put in the section because there's a section like it in the three featured discographies that I know of, but a list like that doesn't apply as well for most of the reasons you just stated. However, I think that the opening paragraph of the unreleased songs section should stay, because there needs to be some mention that there are several songs under the Nirvana name that haven't been officially released. --Brandt Luke Zorn 18:58, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unreleased songs

message: Someone has really fucked up this discography. At one point it was perfect. I'll try and sort out what I can. Its like the page was either written by someone with half a brain or like someone is trying to shun Nirvana. 83.67.100.248 16:03, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, album covers cannot be used in lists and discographies, per the Wikimedia licensing policy.  Please see the WP:NONFREE policy.  ➪HiDrNick! 17:54, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: A mess

message: The source used for the U.S sales of albums is old. 83.67.100.248 17:47, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure the In Utero sales are 5.5m in the US. 195.137.109.177 11:42, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if you can find a reliable source saying so, go for it. --Brandt Luke Zorn 12:22, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sales

message: Is there any need for a table of b-sides in a bands discography. Check the name of the title Discography. 83.67.100.248 18:56, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: B-sides

message: Before altering any info on the page please read this Help:Contents/Links and more specificaly this: Wikipedia:Reliable sources. 
Published books are more appropriate as ar as charts are concerned many web "unofficial" web archives such as this one  for Australia only list the top 40 when the official ARIA published charts are top 100.
And this unnofficial site only archives charts back to 1993  for New Zealand, where charts have existed since 1966. However this does not mean these sites cannot be used as source just that there are bettersources in the form of books. 
Thats just two examples.83.67.100.248 19:15, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It also depends on if you can find a more comprehensive book source, and even then it mgiht not be in English, which is preferred. WesleyDodds 21:34, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources and References

message: Would it not be better to just use one linked source for info from the http://www.bpi.co.uk/index.asp website. As per Wiki guidelnes. 83.67.100.248 14:20, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What Wikipedia guidelines are you referring to here? I don't think that there's anything about using only one reference over several subpages or that book resources are necessarily preferred over internet references. Besides, the link you gave is the BPI homepage; if anything we'd want to cite this link However, there is still no good reason to reference only that link, and there is a precedent for citing this way from Goldfrapp discography. --Brandt Luke Zorn 17:51, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Use of multiple sources

message: I would just like to point out that "Gallons of Rubbing Alcohol Flowing Throught the Strip" was indeed released as a single, albeit a promotional cassette:
http://fusionanomaly.net/flow.html
http://fusionanomaly.net/nirvanagallonspromocassettecover.jpg
Just so you guys don't think I'm a vandal.--99.179.75.218 (talk) 20:57, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Jeez, no ones discussing this, they're just deleting it. It's a simple promo, it deserves a little mention. Notice I didn't add it to the main singles, just promo singles. I think it should stay.--Gen. Quon (talk) 02:28, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We're going to need better proof than a picture on a page dedidicated to the word "flow". I haven't found any mention of it in Nirvana discographies. WesleyDodds (talk) 10:20, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Gallons of Rubbing Alcohol Flowing Throught the Strip"

message: Certifications for releases in Canada can be found here:http://www.cria.ca/cert_db_search.php?page=2&wclause=WHERE+artist_name+like+%27%25Nirvana%25%27+ORDER+BY+cert_date%2C+cert_award+&rcnt=38&csearch=0&nextprev=1
193.195.193.123 (talk) 11:30, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: --JD554 (talk) 13:54, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Canada Certifications

message: Bleach: 1999. Gold. 50,000 units.
Nevermind: 2001. Diamond. 1,000,000 units
Incesticide: 1997. 2 x Platinum. 200,000 untis.
In Utero: 2001. 6 x Platinum. 600,000 units.
Unplugged: 2001. 9 x Platinum. 900,000 units.
FTMBOTW: 1996. 2 xPlatinum. 200,00 units.
LTSO: 1995. Gold. 50,000 units.
193.195.197.20 (talk) 12:31, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: --JD554 (talk) 13:54, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Canada

message: I have been watching what goes on here and it is quite obvious that Wesley Dodds is out either to ruin the reputation of the band Nirvana or simply to destroy other contributer's efforts without any good reason. 193.195.196.37 (talk) 11:33, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think both are pretty unlikely given that he's helped get Smells Like Teen Spirit and In Utero to featured article status as well as getting "In Bloom" and Nevermind to good article status. --JD554 (talk) 12:50, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah but didn't Dodds completely sabotage the Floyd the Barber effort? Clearly sinister motives are at work. CAVincent (talk) 13:09, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't describe redirecting a non-notable song as sabotage or sinister. You may want to read WP:AGF and WP:NSONGS. --JD554 (talk) 13:36, 3 September 2009 (UTC)

text: That was a joke. I was going to discuss Dodds' sagotage of Mexican Seafood but figured that was too obscure in the discography even for a joke. CAVincent (talk) 13:45, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, apologies. Sometimes it can be difficult to make out wry humour in the typed word. Apologies again, --JD554 (talk) 15:47, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No probs :-) Say, was reading the In Bloom article just now and was surprised to read that Grohl did harmony. Are there other songs with non-Cobain vocals (other than the Territorial Pissings intro)? Maybe a good reference site or book I can check out for the info? I've never read any books on Nirvana or the Seattle grunge scene as I was part of it and it seems weird to read about in a book. Haven't even seen Hype! although I'm told I can be seen dancing in it. CAVincent (talk) 04:17, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: WesleyDodds

message: Just a suggestion but it might be an idea to have a seperate article for all of the awards istead of on the band page, as has been done for the Foo Fighters. 193.195.197.254 (talk) 14:15, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Awards

message: Perhaps also an article listing Nirvana songs used in video games, again just a suggestion. 193.195.197.254 (talk) 14:15, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Video games

message: Charts for the Netherlands can be found here: http://dutchcharts.nl/search.asp?search=Nirvana&cat=s
It is important to include well referenced info. Please don't remove just because you think that there is "enough already". 193.195.193.183 (talk) 10:42, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The main purpose of discography isn't to give the chart positions for an artist's releases, it's to list an artist's releases. The addition of charts is a secondary issue and is intended to give an idea of how well (or not) a particular release has done in various regions. MOS:DISCOG#Per-release states: "A limit of approximately 10 separate charts is suggested". Going beyond that is creating an indiscriminate collection of information which is beyond the scope of what a discography is. --JD554 (talk) 11:18, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Netherlands charts

message: Why is there not a separate section for studio albums? Discographies that clearly separate studio albums from compilations are intuitive, this is far from that. Unless there is some insider logic behind lumping all albums together it should be modified. --98.201.105.130 (talk) 22:20, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no reason to change the layout, because there is no mandatory page layout for articles or lists. WesleyDodds (talk) 05:42, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not really in favour of changing the layout either. But I suppose you could have a section: "Studio albums and compilations". That way Incesticide and the Hits album could be kept together with the main studio albums. And then have a seperate section for live albums and another for boxsets. What do you think ? mjgm84 (talk) 12:44, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty indifferent, but there really is no pressing/mandatory reason to change the layout, so i'm fine with keeping it as is. WesleyDodds (talk) 11:14, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Studio albums?

message: Just thought I'd point out that The Grunge Years is listed in the Other appearances table as being released in 1994. It was actually released in 1991. mjgm84 (talk) 11:58, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Other apperances: The Grunge Years

message: there seems to be some self contradiction by some users; within the Nirvana discography page we have all the studio albums, compilation albums, live albums and box sets together in one table - I have no argument with this. However when it comes to the chronology found on each individual page for each release there seems to opposition against having all the releases in one order - the same as the discography page. Particuarly by User: Wesly Dodds. Are there any wikipedia guidelines which outline rules for these chronologies ? It seems silly to have a seperate chronology for compilation albums; because it gives the impression that there were no albums released between Incesticide and 2002's best of album. mjgm84 (talk) 09:28, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with what WesleyDodds did, see Template:Infobox_album#Chronology where it says "the chain (for most artists) should include only other studio albums, excluding live albums and compilations; these other types can also have their own separate chains." It goes on to say it may be appropriate to be in one chain, but why is it appropriate for Nirvana? I can see no compelling reason. --JD554 (talk) 09:55, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it may be appropriate for Nirvana, especially as there are only three studio albums and the majority of their discography is made up of live and compilation albums. For example, if a casual visitor to Wikipedia is viewing the Incesticide page it gives the impression that the next Nirvana release is the 2002 album Nirvana with nothing inbetween. Unless you are a know it all Nirvana fan this is the impression you get. I know this probably won't get changed but one suggestion is that each chronology gets titles "studio albums chronology" or "compilations chronology" so it makes sense. And if it is to be kept in its current format then there should be a seperate chronology for Live albums; why was Live at Reading in the compilations discography ? mjgm84 (talk) 10:06, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The conventional practice for the infoboxes is to link between format type.  Each infobox actually says what the format of the release is. WesleyDodds (talk) 12:31, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Both the Incesticide and Nirvana (album) pages do not say "compilations" chronology so I will change that, any complaints ?. And should there be a chronology for the three live albums ?mjgm84 (talk) 12:46, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Chronology

message: Does Nevermind It's an Interview merrit a place on the discography page ? I noticed someone tried to add it. It was an official release but was only a promo. Being a promo only, makes it a bit less important and perhaps not important enough to be included. There are many promo releases by this band which arn't included in this discography and rightly so due to their lack of significance. That said it was re-released on the iTunes download version of With the Lights Out.mjgm84 (talk) 14:50, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Nevermind It's an Interview

message: Just in case anyones interested I have the Europarade positions for Nirvana. Euro parade was an official top 40 only chart that ended publication in January 1994. The inforamtion comes from a chart forum, so no proper source yet:
*Smells Like Teen Spirit: 4.
*Come As You Are: 21.
*Lithium: 14.
*Heart-Shaped Box: 21.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.67.74.227 (talk) 16:16, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: All information must be verifiable from reliable sources. --JD554 (talk) 07:40, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Europarade

message: A Nirvana live show that is not listed in the discography. I bought this years ago. The CD does not say much except for a code: TORCOOO1 and a "tor" logo of a blue mountain-like object appears on various places on the cover and on the CD itself. Might be a record company, I do not know. From the title the show happened on the 22 February 1994. All I can say further is that of the 24 tracks, the fastest ever Smells Like Teen Spirit features and one kick-ass live version of Lounge Act.
I just wanted to bring it to you guys' attention so that you can make the page perfect and thereby give Nirvana the credit they deserve.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.6.208.129 (talk) 23:00, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Its not an official release so it will not be included here in the Nirvana discography.mjgm84 (talk) 07:41, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  XXII.II.MCMXCIV 

message: Just to let you know: In Utero has been certified triple platinum in New Zealand. I don't know whether you want this added, as at the moment only US, Canada and UK are listed. Adabow (talk · contribs) 20:54, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  NZ triple platinum: In Utero 

message: Unlike most other discographies, this one does not separate out album types (studio, live, compilations, etc.).  Just wondering why that is.  Would there be an uproar if I split them up? - eo (talk) 12:00, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not specified in Wiki guidlines that the discography has to be split up. It is more suitable for Nirvana for it to be kept as it is. All the regular users who contribute to this page prefer it as it is. mjgm84 (talk) 12:38, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I realize there is no specific guideline - it's just that I've seen albums split basically everywhere else but here, so I was curious.  But fair enough; if people want them merged, that works too.  Later! - eo (talk) 12:54, 6 October 2010 (UTC)

text: I think it looks better split up rather than one long blurb, honestly.  Tarc (talk) 17:40, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Splitting album types?

message: Forgive me if I am wrong but if the 2002 Nirvana album has been certified Platinum in the USA then it must have sold over 1 million copies in the USA, and so the sales figures in the article should reflect that. QuintusPetillius (talk) 19:10, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Nirvana (best of) album

message: I would just like to point out the fact that someone has deleted the page for Sliver: The Best of the Box and put it into the With the Lights Out page. This was done without prior discussion. The Sliver album should have its own page as it was a completely seperate release.mjgm84 (talk) 08:11, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Sliver: The Best of the Box page has been deleted ?

message: how about Ultra Rare Trax which was released in 2010? it seems that you've missed this album. 2.181.99.220 (talk) 11:30, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Whatever that is its not an official release and therefore does not belong in this discography.QuintusPetillius (talk) 18:26, 6 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ultra Rare Trax 

message: 11.5 million is not diamond. It's 11x platinum. AmericanLeMans (talk) 18:25, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nevermind sales 

message: Currently in the video albums table Live! Tonight! Sold Out!! is listed twice, once for the original VHS and Laser disc release in 1994 and also separately for the 2006 DVD release. At the end of the day the DVD is just a re-release and its not like we have separate listings for re-releases of the albums such as the 20th anniversary editions. If the two listings for Live! Tonight! Sold Out!! were merged together then it could be mentioned in the format section that the DVD was released in 2006.QuintusPetillius (talk) 10:53, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed edit to Video albums table

message: The article states the U.S. sales of Nevermind are 11.5 million. The source for this is a March 1995 article in the British newspaper The Independent. The source says "the album has now sold 11-and-a-half million" but it doesn't say these are U.S. sales. At the time the article was written, Nevermind was certified 7x platinum by the Recording Industry Association of America (7 million copies shipped) and would not reach 10x platinum until 1999. The source cited is probably referring to worldwide sales. In any case the source does not support the claim that U.S. sales are 11.5 million. Piriczki (talk) 17:43, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  U.S. sales of ''Nevermind'' 

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message: So, Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies/style#Per-release states that there should be "approximately" 10 charts included, that does not mean it has to actually be 10 charts we could have more. It also says that for which charts should be included a good rule of thumb is to go by the relative success of the artist on that chart. There are currently 15 charts and I will give my reasons on which 10 should be kept and which should go as follows:
*US Hot 100 - keep as Nirvana's domestic country.
*US mainstream rock - keep as Nirvana's domestic country.
*US alternative rock - keep as Nirvana's domestic country.
*Australia - keep - there are certifications for this country, they had a good number of songs on the chart including one that charted higher than their first hit.
*Belgium - cut apart from one number one most of the peaks are relatively low and it is an extremely small country population wise and so less relative to band's success.
*Canada - cut - most of the peaks are relatively low compared to the other countries and it is a relatively small territory population wise.
*EU - cut - is a pan-European chart of multiple countries and not a single country.
*Finland - keep - there are five Top 10 hits including a number one which wasn't their first hit "Smells Like Teen Spirit" so very relative to band's success.
*France - keep - the band has a number one on this chart which is relative to its success, there is a certification which is also relative to its success and it is a major territory population wise.
*Ireland - keep for the fact that that the band has four Top Ten hits on the chart which is relatively good compared to their chart performance in other countries and so is relative to their success.
*Netherlands - cut because all of the peaks are relatively low compared to some other countries and is a relatively small territory population wise and so not as relative the band's success.
*New Zealand - keep because the band has three Top 10 hits including a number one and a Top 5, and so is relative to its success.
*Portugal - keep because band has five Top 10 hits on the chart which is more than in any other country.
*Sweden - cut because the peaks are relatively low compared to the other countries and population wise it is small so is less relative to the band's success.
*UK - keep because the band had more hits in the UK than any other country, there are many certifications, and this country is extremely important in the band's history: e.g: the recent When Nirvana Came to Britain documentary. 
That leaves us with the best 10 as per the guidelines.QuintusPetillius (talk) 11:42, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the reply. Ok, I guess the US rock charts were included because they are relative to band's success, but I am willing to agree that the US Hot 100 would be enough for that country, which in turn means that we could, continuing from the above, re-add two countries choosing from Belgium, Canada, EU, Netherlands or Sweden. I want to make clear that I have not made the choices above based on population alone but on how good the peaks are in those countries. So it is the population combined with the peaks. The latter as per guidelines. For example, "Lithium" peaked at number 83 in Canada but at number 1 in Finland, and "In Bloom" peaked at number 87 in the Netherlands but at number 7 in Ireland. So you have to ask which better represent's the band's success as suggested by guidelines. I would choose Belgium for having a number 1 hit and Sweden for there being a certification. There is also a good number of hits on each chart. This is in keeping with guidelines of representing the band's success.QuintusPetillius (talk) 13:18, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Retail singles

message: Song                                                                           	Year                                                                           	Peak chart positions                                                             	Peak chart positions                                                                              	Peak chart positions                                                           	Peak chart positions                                                           	Peak chart positions                                                           	Peak chart positions                                                           	Peak chart positions                                                           	Peak chart positions                                                                       	Peak chart positions                                                           	Peak chart positions                                                           	Certifications                                                                 	Album
Song                                                                           	Year                                                                           	US"Nirvana – Chart History: Hot 100". billboard.com. Retrieved November 30, 2014.	US MainNirvana – Chart History: Mainstream Rock Tracks billboard.com. Retrieved November 30, 2014.	US Alt.                                                                        	AUS                                                                            	FIN
*For "Smells Like Teen Spirit":  or 
*For "Come as You Are":  or 
*For "Lithium":   or 
*For "In Bloom" (and others): 
*For "Heart-Shaped  Box":  or 
*For "About a Girl":	FRA                                                                            	IRE                                                                            	NZNirvana – New Zealand Singles Chart Positions charts.org.nz. Retrieved December 16, 2014.	PT
*For "Smells Like Teen Spirit": 
*For "Come as You Are": 
*For "Lithium": 
*For "In Bloom": 
*For "Heart-Shaped Box":	UK
*For all except "Sliver", "About a Girl" and "Pennyroyal Tea": 
*For "Sliver":  Note: original 1991 peak for "Sliver" was number 90, this is the 1992 re-entry peak, number 77, but only the Top 75 archived by OCC for week of December 5, 1992:
*For "Sliver" and "About a Girl": 
*For "Pennyroyal Tea":  or	Certifications                                                                 	Album
"Love Buzz"                                                                    	1988                                                                           	—                                                                                	—                                                                                                 	—                                                                              	—                                                                              	—                                                                              	—                                                                              	—                                                                              	—                                                                                          	—                                                                              	—                                                                              	                                                                               	Bleach
"Sliver"                                                                       	1990                                                                           	—                                                                                	—                                                                                                 	19                                                                             	—                                                                              	—                                                                              	—                                                                              	23                                                                             	—                                                                                          	—                                                                              	77                                                                             	                                                                               	
"Smells Like Teen Spirit"                                                      	1991                                                                           	6                                                                                	7                                                                                                 	1                                                                              	5                                                                              	8                                                                              	1                                                                              	15                                                                             	1                                                                                          	2                                                                              	7                                                                              	
*RIAA: Platinum (physical)
*RIAA: Gold (digital)
*ARIA: 8× Platinum
*BPI: 3× Platinum
*RMNZ: Gold	Nevermind
"Come as You Are"                                                              	1992                                                                           	32                                                                               	3                                                                                                 	3                                                                              	25                                                                             	8                                                                              	12                                                                             	7                                                                              	3                                                                                          	8                                                                              	9                                                                              	
*ARIA: 4× Platinum
*SNEP: Gold
*BPI: Platinum                                 	Nevermind
"Lithium"                                                                      	1992                                                                           	64                                                                               	16                                                                                                	25                                                                             	53                                                                             	1                                                                              	—                                                                              	5                                                                              	28                                                                                         	4                                                                              	11                                                                             	
*ARIA: 2× Platinum
*BPI: Gold                                                 	Nevermind
"In Bloom"                                                                     	1992                                                                           	—                                                                                	5                                                                                                 	—                                                                              	73                                                                             	16                                                                             	—                                                                              	7                                                                              	20                                                                                         	10                                                                             	28                                                                             	
*ARIA: Platinum
*BPI: Silver                                                  	Nevermind
"Heart-Shaped Box"                                                             	1993                                                                           	—                                                                                	4                                                                                                 	1                                                                              	21                                                                             	9                                                                              	37                                                                             	6                                                                              	9                                                                                          	4                                                                              	5                                                                              	
*BPI: Silver                                                                  	In Utero
"All Apologies"/"Rape Me"                                                      	1993                                                                           	—                                                                                	4—                                                                                                	1—                                                                             	58                                                                             	—                                                                              	20                                                                             	20                                                                             	32                                                                                         	—                                                                              	32                                                                             	                                                                               	In Utero
"Pennyroyal Tea"                                                               	1994                                                                           	—                                                                                	—                                                                                                 	—                                                                              	—                                                                              	—                                                                              	—                                                                              	—                                                                              	—                                                                                          	—                                                                              	121                                                                            	                                                                               	In Utero
"About a Girl"                                                                 	1994                                                                           	—                                                                                	3                                                                                                 	1                                                                              	4                                                                              	8                                                                              	23                                                                             	—                                                                              	—                                                                                          	—                                                                              	185                                                                            	
*BPI: Silver                                                                  	MTV Unplugged in New York
"You Know You're Right"                                                        	2002                                                                           	45                                                                               	1                                                                                                 	1                                                                              	—                                                                              	—                                                                              	—                                                                              	—                                                                              	—                                                                                          	—                                                                              	—                                                                              	                                                                               	Nirvana
"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that territory.	"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that territory.	"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that territory.  	"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that territory.                   	"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that territory.	"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that territory.	"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that territory.	"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that territory.	"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that territory.	"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that territory.            	"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that territory.	"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that territory.	"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that territory.	"—" denotes releases that did not chart or were not released in that territory.
QuintusPetillius (talk) 12:10, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the reply. Ok, I guess the US rock charts were included because they are relative to band's success, but I am willing to agree that the US Hot 100 would be enough for that country, which in turn means that we could, continuing from the above, re-add two countries choosing from Belgium, Canada, EU, Netherlands or Sweden. I want to make clear that I have not made the choices above based on population alone but on how good the peaks are in those countries. So it is the population combined with the peaks. The latter as per guidelines. For example, "Lithium" peaked at number 83 in Canada but at number 1 in Finland, and "In Bloom" peaked at number 87 in the Netherlands but at number 7 in Ireland. So you have to ask which better represent's the band's success as suggested by guidelines. I would choose Belgium for having a number 1 hit and Sweden for there being a certification. There is also a good number of hits on each chart. This is in keeping with guidelines of representing the band's success.QuintusPetillius (talk) 13:18, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Retail singles

message: There are a number of national singles charts for Nirvana that are missing from the various Wikipedia articles which it would be good to get sources for. These are as follows:
Ultratop Belgium (Wallonia): We have both the Belgium Flanders and Belgium Wallonia album charts for Nirvana as sourced from Ultratop but only the singles charts for Flanders. There is a gap in the Ultratop singles archive for Wallonia from around 1979 to mid way through 1994. However, I have been informed that Ultratop are working on filling this gap on their website at some point but it will take time because they have to go through thousands of newspaper articles.
Belgium IFPI: During Nirvana's time there was also an official chart compiled by IFPI Belgium for Flanders and Wallonia combined. The top ten of this chart was published in Music & Media and so the peaks have been added to the "Smells Like Teen Spirit" and "Come as You Are" articles accordingly from that source. However, Music & Media also used the full Belgium IFPI chart to compile the European Hot 100 Singles, and entries on the Euro Hot 100 show in the key that the Nirvana singles "Lithium", "Heart-Shaped Box" "All Apologies / "Rape Me and "About a Girl" also charted on the Belgium IFPI chart: They are denoted with a "B" to show that Belgium was one of the countries which helped them onto the Euro Hot 100. See page 13 of the magazine here for example: . However, no-one can seem to find an archive for the Belgium IFPI chart beyond the Top 10: a fellow chart researcher has told me that if an archive still exists then it is probably in the possession of Ultratop but they have denied knowledge of it to him, probably because it does not fit with their brand of having separate Belgium charts for Flanders and Wallonia. Fono magazine published a top 20 of this chart and the archives of this magazine are in the British Library, but Fono was only started in 1998 so of no use. The IFPI Belgium chart was based on sales from distributors to retailers and not on sales from retailers to customers.
Denmark IFPI: "Come as You Are" was Nirvana's only hit on the official IFPI Danmark singles chart during the band's lifetime and "Smells Like Teen Spirit" did not chart. However, at the time the chart was based on sales from distributers to the retailers and not from the retailers to customers, as explained here: Hitlisten. The top ten of the Denmark IFPI chart was published in Music & Media which has been used to source the number 9 peak for "Come as You Are" in the song's article. However, again the Denmark IFPI chart extended to a Top 30 which was used by Music & Media to compile the European Hot 100 Singles, and its entries on the Euro Hot 100 show that "Lithium" charted on the Denmark IFPI chart in August 1992 (but below the Top 10): it is denoted with "DK" in the key to show that it charted on the Denmark IFPI chart. See page 23 of the magazine here for example: . I have spoken to a fellow chart researcher who has this data but was not willing to share it, including the peak, because it would be illegal for him to do so under copyright law. By March 1993, the Denmark IFPI chart was fully based on sales to customers, this info is not copyrighted, and the Nirvana single "Lithium" was in the Top 50 as per the song's article. The single "About a Girl" and the "Singles" box set also charted but this was after Nirvana had ended. The Nirvana singles "Smells Like Teen Spirit", "Come As You Are" and "Heart-Shaped Box" have had Denmark peaks added from this source:  which was a semi-official chart for the North Jutland County and based on physical sales but was not the national chart.
Greece IFPI: I have confirmed that "Come as You Are" was Nirvana's only hit on the IFPI Greece chart (albeit during the band's lifetime). This is confirmed by the Euro Hot 100 entries for the song in Music & Media which show it denoted with "GR" for the Greek IFPI chart, in three separate weeks. See page 37 of the magazine here for example: . However, I have not been able to find a copy of the Greek Pop & Rock magazine which published the full Greek IFPI chart for that month. If found it could be used a source for the Wikipedia article. 
Switzerland: There are also Euro Hot 100 entries for "Lithium" which show that Switzerland ("CF") was one of the countries where it charted even though it does not appear in the official Switzerland chart archives.QuintusPetillius (talk) 18:32, 4 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing singles charts