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Wikipedia talk:History of Wikipedia bots

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: no consensus. Page moving seems to be premature. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 19:47, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:History of Wikipedia bots → ? – The current title gives a misleading impression that this page is about the history of Wikipedia bots in general, rather than the more specific class of automated content-creating bots. A more specific title, perhaps "Wikipedia:History of content-creation bots" or "Wikipedia:History of automated content creation" would work better. 2601:647:5800:1A1F:5CC:ED1D:EA7E:6AC1 (talk) 18:52, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

text: Pointless but certainly feel free to expand the page to cover more of the history.  Headbomb {t · c · p · b} 19:01, 20 July 2022 (UTC)

text: Please alert the main bot pages that this RM is in progress, thanks. The title seems to be a stable name since the page creation in 2002. I'm not a bot creator so will just watch the discussion for now. Randy Kryn (talk) 02:10, 21 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 20 July 2022
Talk:AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted

message: The article makes a big deal about the meaning of the lyrics.
There should be just as much coverage given to the expertise beats,
e.g., on songs 4, 5, and 6. Jidanni (talk) 21:12, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Beats as important as lyrics

message: The redirect AmeriKKKa has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  :3 F4U (they/it) 14:04, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:AmeriKKKa]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]
Talk:Westermarck effect

message: A midrash about he book of Genesis has a matron questioning a rabbi about the creation of Eve.
why in secret?’ she pursued. ‘At first He created her for him and he saw her full of discharge and blood; thereupon He removed her from him and created her a second time.’ ‘I can corroborate your words,’ she observed. ‘It had been arranged that I should be married to my mother’s brother, but because I was brought up with him in the same home I became plain in his eyes and he went and married another woman, who was not as beautiful as I.’
Does this count as a proto-example? Omeganian (talk) 16:08, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This whole ("Pre-modern") section is anecdotal, weak, and would be better removed. The fact that these stories have religious sources is not convincing to anyone but the religious, and even those, for religious not scholarly reasons. --50.68.140.60 (talk) 15:58, 27 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  A midrash 

message: There's no contradiction between people being naturally predisposed not to marry people they grew up with as siblings and people being naturally predisposed to be attracted to people who look like their fathers. In fact, if people are naturally attracted to people who look like their parents, then the incest-avoidance findings are even more dramatic. Bering's work suggests that incest-avoidance reverse-imprints on individuals, not on the class of people who look a certain way. Jonathan Tweet (talk) 20:45, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I agree. There seems to be an odd amount of content in this article trying to criticize a phenomenon that as far as I know is not actually particularly controversial and rather widely accepted.★Trekker (talk) 23:21, 1 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for backing me up. Also, the link was to a blog. Jonathan Tweet (talk) 02:02, 2 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bering's work doesn't contradict the Westermarck effect  

message: This line was recently added to the 'Criticism' section: 
 Edvard Westermarck never married, and his homosexual orientation was well known in London. In some of his works, he argued for homosexuality as a natural sexual tendency. Therefore, the Westermarck effect can be considered as confirmation bias.
Firstly, who considers it to be that, exactly? Has this objection been raised by other scholars, or is this just something a random Wikipedia editor figured? Secondly, I have to say it doesn't actually make any sense to me, what does one have to do with the other? How would that bias him towards believing in an incest aversion instinct? The only thing I can think of is that this person might have meant to say "postulating natural tendencies is his answer to everything", but given that homosexuality is a natural sexual tendency, this seems like an incredibly dated objection. Less generously, it reads like a homophobic ad hominem. I'm just going to take it out again. – Fyrius (talk) 18:28, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  This strange remark about 'confirmation bias'
Talk:Nilpotent group

message: Also when infinite?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.210.238.84 (talk) 07:34, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, see Tarski monster group. --Zundark (talk) 09:33, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: p-groups have non-trivial center??

message: The definition of adjoint action in the article is logically self-contained but links to a different (if related) concept in Lie algebras.  This seems unhelpful.  Quotient group (talk) 19:33, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adjoint action 

message: I have inserted a math-rating above, because I think that this important topic deserves further expansion.  Many articles on special classes of groups are better developed, even if their subject-matter is (arguably) mathematically less vital and less widely applicable.  Other views?
Alternatively, ought this page to be merged with the nice page on Central Series?  I rather think so.
: Ambrose H. Field (talk) 19:27, 25 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Rating

message: Robert B. Warfield, Jr. says in his 'Nilpotent Groups', (Springer-Verlag Lecture Notes in Mathematics 513), page v: 
"I do not know when it was noticed that these groups are related to those connected linear Lie groups whose Lie algebras consist of nilpotent matrices, but this was certainly understood in the 1930's."   
:I think this is relevant to the explantion of the term 'nilpotent group.'198.189.194.129 (talk) 21:31, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  explanation of term 

message: The proof for (e)→(a) is a bit strange: it seems to prove (c), and then refers to (c)→(e). But how does that help us to get to (a)?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nomeata (talk • contribs) 12:07, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proof of properties for finite groups
Talk:Tertium comparationis

message: Those who claim a simile is not a metaphor are just a fiddler's skip from the loony bin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ed Poor (talk • contribs) 22:27, 7 November 2002 (UTC)
replies: text: Literate, you mean? A similie is a comparison. A metaphor is a non-literal application of a word. e.g. "He is an ass" is a metaphor. "He's as dumb as an ass" is a similie. Mr. Jones 02:47, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Elliptic function

message: We need an article on fundamental pair of periods that reviews all of the properties of a 2D lattice so that this article and the modular forms article (and the Jacobi & Wierestrass elliptic articles) can reference it.  linas 05:10, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: See my comment at modular form. Charles Matthews 08:17, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Lattice

message: The elliptic functions as they should be in the references is eccentric. Better for example to go to Whittaker & Watson, though their notation is not what the modern standard is (same for all the older books). Tannery and Molk is the classic reference; book by Weber. But the old books are out of print, I  suppose - more's the pity. Charles Matthews 22:14, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: Layman question.  Should a' = p a + q b and b' = r a + q b instead read as 
a' = p a + q b and b' = r a + s b?  It seems odd to calculate s and then throw it out.  It also seems to leave a degree of freedom, which allows for arbitrary a' and b'.  (unsigned anonymous user,  15 August 2005)
:Yes, that is correct, it was a typo in the formula. linas 21:14, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Definition and Properties

message: The article states: "Historically, elliptic functions were first discovered by Carl Gustav Jacobi..." Well, whoever wrote this should definitely read the article "Niels Henrik Abel" by G.Mittag-Leffler( who sure knew what he was talking about!), in which it is proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that the real originator of the theory of elliptic functions is Abel and not Jacobi.
Mittag-Leffler's text is available(in French) at the following URL: Niels Henrik Abel
Gemb47 (talk) 12:32, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical note 

message: For more experienced editors: it seems to me that the description and definition of elliptic functions can be simplified and made more explicit by simply saying that they are (defined as) doubly periodic meromorphic functions. In particular, rather than "elliptic functions are a special kind of meromorphic functions, that satisfy two periodicity conditions", I suggest "elliptic functions are doubly periodic meromorphic functions", or "elliptic functions are meromorphic functions which are also doubly periodic", etc. In the definition, it can say something like "Elliptic functions are complex functions which are doubly periodic and meromorphic. That is, <insert definitions of doubly periodic and meromorphic>", or "A complex function f\colon\C\to\C is an elliptic function if it is doubly periodic and meromorphic", etc.
But I'm not sure how appropriate this is, hence this talk topic. Kclisp (talk) 22:53, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simplifying lead and definition: doubly periodic and meromorphic
Talk:List of kidnappings

message: Why is this case listed as a suspected kidnapping?  The text says: [she] seems to have been abducted on 22 November.   What does that mean?  Her main article (Murder of Dru Sjodin) says, in the lead, that she was abducted.  And her main article also details a prosecution under the "Federal Kidnapping Act".  Given all this, why is her case considered a "suspected kidnapping" for purposes of this article?   Thanks.   32.209.69.132 (talk) 05:23, 3 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Murder of Dru Sjodin 

message: Re:  Carlee Russell disappearance hoax.  I added this.  It was immediately removed.  Why was it removed? 
1.  This has been in the news a lot recently, due to recent court decisions.
2.  There is already a Wikipedia article about it.
3.  The lead to the Wikipedia article states:  On July 13, 2023, American nursing student, Carlethia "Carlee" Nichole Russell (born 1997/1998) allegedly disappeared for 49 hours from her home in Hoover, Alabama, falsely reporting to police afterwards that she had been abducted. The story of her disappearance went viral on TikTok and other social media platforms. On July 24, Russell admitted that she had fabricated the story, and had not been abducted.
4.  This is no longer "alleged".  She was convicted in court, today.  Source: .
Thanks.   32.209.69.132 (talk) 00:03, 12 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Carlee Russell disappearance hoax]] 

message: Shouldn't Vladimir Putin be on the list of mass abductions because of the mass child abductions in Ukraine? 94.110.131.252 (talk) 09:08, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Putin
Talk:Gene Eugene

message: Gene Eugene's work, first and foremost, took place within the "Contemporary Christian" and "Christian Alternative" music scenes. To read it, as is, it would seem that he had a far larger role in the larger music world than was actually the case. --Rex Diablo (talk) 12:42, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Misleading

message: Could someone put the cause of his death in the article? Thanks. Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 18:05, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been in the article for a long time: "Gene Andrusco died in his sleep of a brain aneurysm on March 20, 2000 in his studio." Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:16, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry. I must have overlooked it. I thought articles like this should have a separate "Death" (or something like it) section. Allen (Morriswa) (talk) 18:18, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cause of death?
Talk:Sylvia Sayer

message: Link to her husband is to the wrong Guy Sayer.  I don't know hoe to fix it86.6.41.186 (talk) 17:20, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed at last!  —SMALLJIM  20:23, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Wrong husband

message: Despite searching, I've been unable to confirm that her full name was Sylvia Olive Pleadwell Sayer. So even though this has been in the article since before 2002, I've remmed the two middle names for now.  —SMALLJIM  20:30, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Aha! Full name, full dob and full dod mentioned in the Indie's obit - all now added and referenced. Some confusion there about whether she was born in Plymouth or Portsmouth, so I'll leave that out.  —SMALLJIM  22:45, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Full name
Talk:Limp Bizkit

message: For the last week or so, various IPs have repeatedly been removing or tweaking info related to band membership. For example, removing DJ Lethal. Is there any grounds for the removal, or actual confusion on this point, or is this just vandalism or misguided edits? So far none of the IPs have discussed or even given an edit summary, so I wasn't sure.
Anyways, I've protected the page for a bit. Please hash this out in the meantime. Thanks. Sergecross73 msg me 13:00, 23 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Band member IP edits
Talk:Bilingual pun

message: If anyone can explain why this (a) makes sense; and (b) is a joke, it might stand a chance of going back in the article.
Bilingual puns may also use words which have completely different meanings in two languages. A classic example is a knock-knock joke with a bilingual pun punchline. The joke begins typically as "knock, knock" and in answer to "who's there?", the answer is "Kelly Importa", which in Spanish may sound like "Que le importa" - a loose translation in Spanish is "what do you care?".[3]TobyJ (talk) 06:04, 20 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Maybe I'm mising something...
Talk:Irving Berlin

message: I've changed the family name back from "Beilin" to "Baline" on the authority of the book by Berlin's daughter, Mary Ellin Barrett. "Baline" is the form used by the family itself, in spite of whatever immigration officials wrote down.  His name was spelled IRWING, not Irving...  "w" is pronounced as a "v" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.225.105.158 (talk) 15:15, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  family name 

message: The article says:
"On September 14, 1893 the family arrived in New York City.... Tsar Alexander III of Russia and then Tsar Nicholas II, his son, had revived with utmost brutality the anti-Jewish pogroms, which created the spontaneous mass exodus to America. The pogroms were to continue until 1906, with thousands of other Jewish families also needing to escape, including those of George and Ira Gershwin, Al Jolson, Sophie Tucker, L. Wolfe Gilbert, Jack Yellen, Louis B. Mayer (of MGM), and the Warner brothers. It has been suspected that the Beilin family also fled due to these pogroms, though there is no evidence to indicate that there were pogroms in Tolochin or Tyumen when the Beilins left for America. "
Almost all  pogroms happened in 1905-1906. You don't have to be a mathematician to know that 1906 comes AFTER 1893.  Thus pogroms of 1905-06 did not affect the Berlin family, living in New York. Nor were there any pogroms in Tyumen,  where they lived before emigrating.  The whole paragraph about pogroms has nothing to do with Irvin Berlin's biography, and I am greatly shortening it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:647:5680:1EAF:D0E8:B407:6BAD:2619 (talk) 02:14, 30 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  pogroms 

message: In the WW1 section it says in 1917, Berlin was 30, but he'd be 29. Or is it supposed to be this way? 2603:8080:D400:7CD:2890:31AD:689D:148C (talk) 05:41, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age 

message: On the current version of this page it lists at the top his birth name as "Rusha Picking". I cannot find a source for this anywhere. Everywhere else on the page lists his birth name as Israel Beilin. This seems like a problem. Sallysballs (talk) 15:06, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It was just vandalism, by an IP. I've reverted it. Alarics (talk) 15:40, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth Name
Talk:Hello Kitty

message: Because of the obviously sheer size of Hello Kitty products and merchandise, covering it all on the main Hello Kitty article would make it WP:TOOLONG for it to pass the WP:FACRITERIA. And yet, given the importance of Hello Kitty products and merchandise information, I will have to propose that the existing product and merchandise information should be given its own article: Hello Kitty merchandise. LunafreyaLaphicet (talk) 03:17, 16 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The current product section in the article does not seem big enough to need an immediate splitting off. Rather than let this grow unwieldy, I would suggest limiting the amount of individual products mentioned here to those that have received independent coverage of some WP:WEIGHT. If even with that the section grows to a large size, spinning it off due to size can be revisited. Siawase (talk) 10:52, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we split Hello Kitty products information into its own page? 

message: We should make these pages easier to read.. 68.185.254.158 (talk) 22:19, 23 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, welcome to Wikipedia! From your edit summaries it seems like you mean while editing, for more advice on that, you can check out Help:Introduction. You edits to this page so far have been WP:BOLD (which is fine, up to a point) but they were unfortunately not accepted. If you want to make more edits to this article you might want to consider discussing them here on the talk page first. Siawase (talk) 15:49, 24 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pages 

message: don't look at wikipedia it is full of lies  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.6.131.157 (talk) 17:43, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: If you say so 2601:640:C900:D020:9D02:E796:C245:BF7 (talk) 01:58, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2024
Talk:Kartavirya Arjuna

message: I've always read "Kartaviryarjuna" or "Kārtavīryārjuna". "Kartavirya Arjuna" as two separate words doesn't make sense to me, and I think this page should be moved to "Kārtavīryārjuna". --Grammatical error 19:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  move 

message: At the beginning of this article, there is a reference to SSk (Somavanshiya Sahasrarjun Kshatriya ) out of nowhere which is very confusing. Please review the starting and remove unwanted links. Ifteebd10 (talk) 09:58, 2 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please review the starting 

message: Somavanshiya Sahasrarjun Kshatriya king Sunilvagale (talk) 05:03, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kartavirya Arjuna 

message: It is written that it is wrong. Legend
Born Sunil96323 (talk) 18:52, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kartavirya Arjuna 

message: Legend Born It is written that it is wrong. Sunil96323 (talk) 18:55, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kartavirya Arjuna 
Talk:Elendil

message: The articles states
But then a little further down it states.
I know Tolkien had a habit of modifying history as his writings go on, but this is quite confusing. GimliDotNet (talk) 13:16, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  The second quote is right. I've removed the first one. Chiswick Chap (talk) 14:15, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who founded Arnor? 
Talk:Homesteading the Noosphere

message: Does this essay really deserve a Wikipedia article?  I mean, there are limits.  This isn't a rhetorical question.  Who actually thinks it's that important? --Larry Sanger
:Personally speaking, I consider Eric Raymond a blowhard.
:Having said that, I wanted to note that this topic is important enough to someone that she/he made an entry about the topic. It might be a stub entry, but it still is an entry, & it is readable, & thus a vote that this topic should be included in the wikipedia. But because it remains a stub entry (I haven't looked at the entries that link to this which also an important determinant), therefore this may be a single, isolated vote. And so perhaps the text in this article should be rolled into one of the article this entry links to -- Open Source, ESR, et cetera.
:Do we a criteria for pinching back these buds that have failed to thrive? llywrch 04:57 Nov 10, 2002 (UTC)
::Why should it be separate from the article on the author? Nothing pinched back, just put where it belongs.Ortolan88
:::Sounds very reasonable. If discussion of "Homesteading" later comes to take up a ridiculous percentage of the page on Raymond, someone could once again move it to a separate article. Until then, there's no problem consolidating two quite short articles. I hope nobody thinks the Raymond page itself should be removed, though. --Ryguasu 06:10 Nov 10, 2002 (UTC)
:but this is the same question I've raised on the Talk:List of Roman Emperors page -- when should we consolidate smaler articles into larger ones? All I'm asking for is a standard, so we don't end up burning up time & volunteers over splitting/joining articles. -- llywrch 18:45 Nov 10, 2002 (UTC)
:Four and a half years later, nothing has changed. I'm proposing that this article be merged with The Cathedral and the Bazaar, since this essay was included in the book of that name. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Aardvark92 (talk • contribs) 17:26, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article justification 
Talk:Jello Biafra

message: Under the heading "Career: Dead Kennedys", the penultimate paragraph begins "Biafra has been a prominent figure of the Californian punk scene and was one of the third generation members of the San Francisco punk community." (emphasis added) It's nonsensical to consider the Dead Kennedys part of a "third generation" of the San Francisco punk community", considering there was no "punk community" in San Francisco before the mid-1970s (Cf. Punk rock in California). The Dead Kennedys formed in 1977. An argument might be able to be made that the Dead Kennedys weren't at the beginning of the "first wave" of punk in Northern California, but there simply were no "first-" and "second-generations" of a punk community before 1977. Bricology (talk) 03:29, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "...third generation members of the San Francisco punk community"? 

message: Given that Jello (what in the UK would be called jelly) is an effete dessert food, typically eaten at children's parties; and Biafra, which owing to its being blockaded by Nigeria became in the 1970s almost a by-word for starvation: might not Jello Biafra be in effect an oxymoron? Uniting two mutually opposite values (abundance and famine) into a single, absurd but at the same time poetic protest.
Nuttyskin (talk) 12:37, 16 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oxymoron 

message: I'm pretty sure the quote "what if he does win" is simply "what if he wins??" On the sign . It is blearily shown in some photos I've seen and does not seem like it has "does" in it  Surfingtheinterweb (talk) 09:43, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable signs in his mayor campaign
Talk:Uyghurs

message: Al-Khujandi (talk) 03:13, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 04:38, 8 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 8 January 2024