Talk:National Day of Spain

message: I don't think Columbus' "finding" is ever mentioned.  "Hispanic Day" is a relatively new term.  Most peopel call the day "el Día del Pilar".  El Pilar being the patroness of Spain.  I think this page needs to be researched some more.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsaindon (talk • contribs) 02:12, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Any citations there? Someone brought this up at Public holidays in Spain and I did some cursory research -- which confirmed Columbus as being the central figure (main celebration at Plaza de Colon). Granted, my source was a couple Web sites and the Spanish Wikipedia. What little I've found is posted to Talk:Public_holidays_in_Spain, and certainly open to more additions by people better versed in this subject than me. ``` W i k i W i s t a h ``` 04:07, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Columbus? 

message: There's nothing that's reliably cited in this article that doesn't reappear at Columbus Day which discusses all Columbus celebrations in all countries. Perhaps some more material can be added over there, but there's no reason to keep this a separate article.--Cúchullain t/c 06:57, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cited or not, this article has a different scope than that of Columbus Day. This article is about Spain's National Day (you know, like the 4th of July, but in Spain, the European country...just in case) while Columbus Day is more about Día de la Raza, The Americas, whatever. These are clearly separate concepts and celebrations and I can't see why someone should remove all this information and substitute it by a mere "it is Spain's National Day" while merging it with something only secondarily related, all because this article lacks citations which are a google search away and all without having even bothered to get anyone else's opinion....is that what administrators are taught these days? OMG... Mountolive  le déluge 03:23, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with Columbus Day

message: I was bold and moved the page to Fiesta Nacional de España, as it was clear that the various problems I have raised are not going to be addressed. As I showed at the AfD, the name "Hispanic Day" is not only associated with Spain (or even October 12). If Spain's national day is to have its own article, that title is inappropriate. Of course this still leaves the glaring sourcing issues.--Cúchullain t/c 20:33, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: October 2009

message: National Day of Spain is the literal translation of the Spanish festivity "Dia Nacional de Espana". In their national day, the Spaniards celebrate their existence, history and common future. The discovery of America is only a chapter in Spanish history. Getting Wikipedia's "National Day of Spain" to redirect it to "Columbus Day" is not just an unacceptable nonsense from any point of view but a serious manipulation of the content and meaning of the real festivity in Spain. Columbus Day is mainly celebrated by Italians and in the US to commemorate the Genovese navigator's exploit and give value to the Italian-Americans' contribution to the construction and development of the United States. Spain has never celebrated a "Columbus Day". The redirection of the National Day of Spain to Columbus Day shall stop and have its own content. Many thanks!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.230.146.198 (talk) 16:48, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: National Day of Spain

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Consensus to move (non-admin closure)  BegbertBiggs (talk) 13:18, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Fiesta Nacional de España →  – Most articles about foreign holidays are given their English titles here; see Public holidays in Spain, Public holidays in Italy, etc. National Day of Spain is currently a redirect to this article, but IMO it should be the article title. MelanieN (talk) 21:31, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 2 November 2020 

message: Apologies if this is incorrectly stated, I'm rather new to deep edits on Wikipedia. In its current status, the article in my opinion has serious issues with its tone both in terms of lack of neutrality when discussing Spanish colonialism, and a heavy domination of aesthetic writing, being written rather more like a travel blog than an impartial encyclopedia entry. The problem is particularly pronounced in the section "Spanish Culture". As an example of tone issues:
"Then, over two thousand years of viniculture are sure to harmoniously pair those meals with a good wine produced in virtually any corner of the Spanish countryside. Spanish people do know how to celebrate around the table, and they do so especially on October 12."
I'm unable to rewrite it at this time as I'm unfamiliar with the subject matter, but I wished to flag the topic. I'll place a mention on the main page as well to flag editors who might stop by. 213.55.221.88 (talk) 13:33, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I've cleaned the page a little bit: a lot of text wasn't particularly linked to October the 12th. There were also false statements, e.g. that the holiday is always 3 days long. --Jotamar (talk) 10:30, 23 October 2022 (UTC)

text: Something that should probably be added to the page is that it is a favourite date for demonstrations by far-right organizations in Spain. --Jotamar (talk) 10:42, 23 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues with tone and neutrality