Talk:Boeing Commercial Airplanes

message: This section is really messy. I think we should clean it up, move it to the end, or move it to a subpage. What does everyone think? —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 16:25, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
Ive added a lot more of the customer codes to the list.
They need proparly formatting and linking out.
Will work my way through them
If you can help, please do
Reedy Boy 13:47, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Customer codes 

message: Hi,
How come the rest of the douglas aircraft aren't on the list?
e.g. DC3
Not sure, but i added them because i too noticed that they weren't.
Reedy Boy 18:50, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Douglas 

message: What are the relevance of the quotes on the customer list?
Are these old company's that no longer exist, and have not been consolidated or bought out by someone else?
Cheers
Reedy Boy 18:51, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Quotes 

message: === Boeing designs ===
Type             	Photo	Description
247              	     	
314 Clipper      	     	
377 Stratocruiser	     	civil development of the military B-29
707              	     	first Boeing commercial passenger jet
717              	     	formerly the MD-95, evolved from the DC-9 family
720              	     	actually a renamed Boeing 707-020
727              	     	first Boeing commercial passenger trijet
757              	     	
What do you think? user:mnw2000 18:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you should list the 707 as the 707/720. No need for two links. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 07:06, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Type of Chart which includes photos 

message: Type             	Photo	Description
247              	     	
314 Clipper      	     	
377 Stratocruiser	     	civil development of the military B-29
707              	     	first Boeing commercial passenger jet
717              	     	formerly the MD-95, evolved from the DC-9 family
720              	     	actually a renamed Boeing 707-020
727              	     	first Boeing commercial passenger trijet
757              	     	
What do you think? user:mnw2000 18:55, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you should list the 707 as the 707/720. No need for two links. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 07:06, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boeing designs 

message: How about moving discontinued designs to the bottom and current production models on top? user:mnw2000 19:50, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, that yellow is really bad. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 20:12, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't think it ever was in the article.  Much of the info in this table is listed in multiple tables already. -fnlayson (talk) 02:12, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, I really like the table and it would be nice if we had it in the article.  This talk entry (and table) was created four years ago!  I think we should delete the multiple tables we currently have and just compile the info into one table.  The only thing I'd add to this table is a column listing nicknames of the planes.  Do you think I should put this table in the article? 
--Compdude123 (talk) 16:39, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section Order 

message: The photo was removed before I had a chance to update the copyright information. Was there a reason to be so hasty? user:mnw2000 23:27, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There has been a jihad in this sense by several users (such as Quadell) recently. In many cases this process is automated and generates a lot of false positives. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 07:06, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was able to retrieve the photo from a cache and I will upload it once I can track down the copyright owner. user:mnw2000 18:31, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trijet 747 Photo 

message: Isn't the 787 and 747-8 currently under production? Should the be added to the production list, or should we rename the product list title to production aircraft currently in service. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mnw2000 (talk • contribs) 14:48, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not "production" until flight testing has completed. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 14:58, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shoud the 787 and 747-8 be added to the production list? 

message: Maybe someone should start a section about Boeing tax breaks, the U.S. - EU dispute over subsidies etc. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.75.254.84 (talk • contribs) 
* Already covered in the Boeing article in the Subsidy disputes section.  -Fnlayson 14:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Government involvement 

message: Has the 737-900 been discontinued with the delivery of the 737-900ER? user:mnw2000 19:37, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No it has not been discontinued. Nothing gets dicontinued at Boeing unless the whole product line gets discontinued. For example the 767-200ER production ended in the early 1990s but 8 years later production started again for Delta Airlines. The 747SP ended in 1983 but 6 years later 1 was made in 1989 for a VIP customer. Some 707s were built sporadically even into the 1990s! A simple order of 1 or 2 planes got the production going again. If an airline wants the 900 they can order it. Planes are hand built and as long as the whole 737 line is not discontinued, a version of it is no problem to build. You cannot get a 757 right now for example as the whole line is gone.--Bangabalunga 17:11, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Has the 737-900 been discontinued with the delivery of the 737-900ER? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:7J7.png

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Boeing747-300Trijet.jpg

message: What is the 738 aircraft, and why is there no information on it? I'm curious because I noticed that a flight my boyfriend is taking is using the aircraft Boeing 738. Googling gets a few results, but I'm having trouble finding any information on what is different from the 737. I'm surprised there's nothing on Wikipedia about it! --Melissa Della 18:00, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Boeing 738 is Boeing 737-800. Airlines shorten it to 738. If you want information on this go to www.seatguru.com. Take care, Marcus--Bangabalunga 18:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  You are indeed correct, which I found out after asking my question. Thank you very much! --Melissa Della 18:22, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

text:  Thanks.  Dang, I thought the short form was the last 2 digits of the model number with the first digit of the variant.  OK, got it now. -Fnlayson 18:27, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Boeing 738?

message: Why is the Boeing 717 included in the table of Boeing designed planes. Airlines were already ordering it when it was a McDonnell-Douglas design. Just because Boeing bought out McDac, there is no reason a McDac plane should be listed as a Boeing design when it was just marketed by Boeing, and designed at McDac. ibinubu12
: Fair point.  I removed design from the Boeing & MD-DAC section labels. -Fnlayson 23:36, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  MD-95 

message: Several photos of designs for proposed Boeing aircraft such as the three engine Boeing 747 (Boeing747-300Trijet.jpg) have been removed while others such as the Boeing 2707 have remained.
Why?
All the photos are of Boeing proposed aircraft and were obtained from Boeing.
user:mnw2000 21:11, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why are some pictures allowed and other are not? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Boeing-Logo.svg

message: I am concerned that this section is mis-labelled or incomplete, or both.
BCA has 3 airplane final assembly facilities: Everett, Renton, and Long Beach. The Seattle Field site does not do final assembly, but does work on repair of airplanes. Also the Fabrication division, a part of BCA has about 10 sites around North America that are actually BCA facilities. CAS also has facilities.
There are 2 possible solutions:
1. Delete the line about Seattle field and re-title the section to "Airplane Assembly Facilities"
2. Add the various Fabrication division and CAS sites, doing a complete job of all BCA facilities. This makes the section title true.
3. Delete the entire secton.
My preference is the first.
But the answer lies in the answer to the questions: What is the main purpose of this section? How deep into the organization do we want to go in our information?
What are your thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Brosq (talk • contribs) 
* Change section name to "Major facilities" or "Assembly Facilities" like you suggested and make needed changes.  Or move links under See also and remove Facilities section. -Fnlayson (talk) 16:20, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed the same issue that Brosq raised. Listing only airplane final assembly facilities under "Major Facilities" is misleading, since it implies that Boeing Field is major and other large sites are not. The easiest solution would be Option 1 listed above, though I would change it to "Final Assembly Facilities" for clarity. Option 2 would be more complete, but would of course require more work. Plain Text (talk) 18:46, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Facilities Section 

message: Review assistance please, I don't believe I got all the information correctly Thx. --ConradKilroy 04:28, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tables 

message: Could somebody add a citation in the table to prove that the 777-200 and -300 (not the -200ER, -200LR, or -300ER models) are out of production?  According to Boeing's website, they're still all in production.  If anybody has a source that says the -200 and -300 are out of production, PLEASE add it!  If nobody adds a source within 2 months I will change it to "all currently in production." (in the table that shows the current planes produced by BCA).Compdude123 (talk) 19:56, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which 777 variants still in production? 

message: Hello,
I don't know if anyone has noticed this, but the table showing the aircraft deliveries hasn't been updated since 2007.  Could someone update this table, please?  The data is all on Boeing's website right here, http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.cfm?content=userdefinedselection.cfm&pageid=m15527. I don't know how to update a table, so could someone please take care of this? Compdude123 (talk) 17:21, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The table is too detailed as is.  Deliveries of the airplane models by year would be better, imo.  I'll try to work on this when I can. -fnlayson (talk) 17:46, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please update the aircraft production table 

message: I've removed the Douglas/McDonnell Douglas table of discontinued aircraft from the article, along with mentions of their aircraft in other sections. None of these aircraft were proposed, designed, or produced by Boeing at any point in its history. Douglas and McDonnell Douglas both have their own article, and these aircraft are alreadyt covered there. Thanks. - BilCat (talk) 22:31, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Douglas/McDonnell Douglas

message: This (inofficial) voting about flags and country info in orders might concern even this article. Tagremover (talk) 09:54, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Doubtful this article has never used flags! MilborneOne (talk) 09:56, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: But Boeing aircrafts. And: Its even about the country info. Tagremover (talk) 10:04, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry your statement doesnt make sense, you may consider that as an RFC it doesnt need to be mentioned on random pages that dont use flags but a notice at the relevant project will probably be enough. MilborneOne (talk) 10:12, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This concerns all readers of aircraft articles as you propose to remove 10.000 flags including country info. Tagremover (talk) 10:15, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I havent proposed anything and certainly nothing to do with this particular article. MilborneOne (talk) 10:22, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You haven´t exactly said. But the result might concern to this. Sorry for the wrong wording. Tagremover (talk) 10:29, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Talk:Sukhoi_Superjet_100#Vote_on_flag_removal]]

message: There is one of those wonderful maintenance tags at the top of this article, the one we all love: .  Like 99% of these tags, the person who added it failed to provide a reason, making it absolutely useless.  Can someone please tell me why it needs cleanup and add a reason= parameter?  Otherwise I will delete it.  Thanks, Compdude123 20:06, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It was added with this edit in Jan. 2011 with no specific reason given. -Fnlayson (talk) 20:24, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the problem, the person who added it () didn't provide a reason in the edit summary.  And I don't see any other problems with this article besides the fact that it needs citations and that the orders/deliveries table needs to be updated.  Both issues are already pointed out by more specific maintenance templates.  Perhaps I should ask speedyphil but I bet he's forgotten why he added the cleanup template...  —Compdude123 21:09, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does  this article need "cleanup?" 

message: Shouldn't discontinued versions of plane models in in production be added to the "Discontinued aircraft" section? For example, the 737-100 though 737-500 and the 737-900 have ended their production runs. Same is true for many versions of the 747. user:mnw2000 19:19, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Discontinued aircraft refers to models, such as the 707, 727, etc, not model variants. No longer produced variants are listed in the notes of the production table. -Fnlayson (talk) 19:28, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discontinued aircraft 

message: Reading through the Boeing 7x7 series article, it looks like there is hardly any information other than what is already provided at the article about Boeing Commercial Airplanes (the 7x7 article mainly consists of a list of aircraft types and an image gallery). Therefore, I think it's a good idea to merge the articles.--FoxyOrange (talk) 09:33, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal:  [[Boeing 7x7 series]] could be merged into [[Boeing Commercial Airplanes]] 

message: A user removed Template:Orders for and deliveries of Airbus and Boeing aircraft from this article, claiming it was only relevant on the article about competition with Airbus. I strongly disagree: How many planes this company has produced, and how many orders it has won, since 1991 is highly relevant for Boeing Commercial Airplanes per se. The fact that Airbus figures are also shown is of little relevance. - Ssolbergj (talk) 14:36, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This is an article about the Boeing company since 1916 so it is not relevant, and we already have an article on Airbus v Boeing competition so no need for it here, note as a challenged edit you need to gain a consensus to add it, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 21:58, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orders for and deliveries since 1991 ''is'' relevant for this company ''per se'' 

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