Talk:Deaf culture

message: This article is or was the subject of a Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment in Fall 2018. Further details are available on the course page. Student editor(s): Coleman laura. 20:49, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education Foundation-supported course assignment

message: Howdy Daniel Patrick and Tyler Cody, 
I wasn't sure which part you revised but one thing popped up in my thought while I was reading. In deaf and Deaf section, it is a hot topic nowadays. I suggest you to add like Deaf people tend are from deaf school, Gallaudet, etc while deaf from mainstream or not really proud of deaf.. maybe it could help the readers to understand content background behind it? just a thought! 
how about to add some info about deaf and their typical behavior such as tap on shoulder, use light to get attention, bang on the table, etc... give readers better understand of deaf... looking forward for your ASL VIDEOS! 
-Mully Djmully (talk) 22:12, 18 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  David M's peer review 

message: I reverted a series of six edits by a student editor. Much of it is fine, in particular the new Education section, but it was behind some problematic stuff, and couldn't revert just the latter; afaic the Education section can be readded without discussion. Other issues need discussion. Some talking points:
While Harlan Lane is an excellent resource, you can't just remove other excellent resources in order to add him, as you did in this edit.  Also, your claim in the edit summary about "bias" and "politically correct" is a potential red flag.  Your "impacts of deaf culture" edit is fine.  Your "make it more concise and clear" edit moves some full refs around, subsituting named refs and vice versa (padden1988) which doesn't hurt and is a wash at the level of someone reading the article, but is confusing while reading a diff; this is a minor point as it doesn't hurt the article, I just don't understand the reason for it. Otoh, this edit removed sourced content (mindess2006, bakpad1978, Lentz et al.) without explanation other than "conciseness", but Baker & Padden are high-status authors in the deaf community, and Lentz, Mikos & Smith have made large contributions to sign language teaching and research, and these removals need more explanation than that (and imho, should not be removed, but I'd like to hear your reasoning).  The new Education section is also quite good, although read the Manual of Style on MOS:SECTIONS for proper formatting of titles.  Mathglot (talk) 20:51, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm in a bit of a rush, so just quickly for now: you're absolutely right about the "three views", and I noticed that at the time, and regreetted having to revert that along with the other stuff; had you made a smaller edit with just that or nearby stuff in it, I never would've reverted it. The change to the wording you did there was very much an improvement, and I encourage you to put it back in.  More advice later.  Oh, please read WP:TALK, WP:THREAD and WP:INDENT about colons and indenting at talk pages, and  or  about notifying editors.  Later, Mathglot (talk) 01:36, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:   Why don't we start on areas of agreement: why don't you go ahead and put your education section back in as it was, as well as the "three views" fix. Then we can move on to the other stuff.  Agreed? Adding  Mathglot (talk) 23:21, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits 

message: As Shalor rightly points out here, this article is written .  This merits a  banner, and I've added one to the article.  The underlying problem is that the current title, "Deaf culture" is contrary to article title policy, in particular, WP:PRECISION, because the content is about "Deaf culture in the United States" but the title is "Deaf culture".  This mismatch between title and content cannot remain; something has to change: either the content, or the title.
As I see it, there are only two approaches to fix this situation:
# Add sufficient material from other countries to give the article a more worldwide view.
# Retitle the article so that the title matches the current content (and then create a new article for the global view).
In my opinion, #1 is preferable in theory, but practically speaking, it isn't going to happen; the article likely would end up 90% US, and a few token sentences about the rest of the world.  So, that's not the way to go.  A better solution, imho, is to retitle this article Deaf culture in the United States, and after that's done, start a new article from scratch called "Deaf culture" which would be in Summary style and start off as a stub, with a brief section about the U.S. summarizing this article, and a few other sections about deaf culture elsewhere; probably enough information could be found to add brief sections for the UK, Australia, and France for starters, and then slowly ramp it up.  That would be a much more balanced approach, rather than an article that is hugely top-heavy for the U.S. and almost nothing about anyplace else. Mathglot (talk) 22:52, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  US or global? 

message: Given the title-content mismatch explained above at #US or global?, I'm proposing a merge of most of this article into Deaf American and a rename of that one to Deaf culture in the United States (currently a redirect).
Deaf American has substantial overlap with this article.  Probaby what should happen, is that Deaf American should be renamed Deaf culture in the United States, and 90% of this article should be merged into it, leaving a stub.  The stub should then be expanded into a summary-style article covering the whole world, with just a brief section on the United States summarizing it, and pointing to the newly renamed "Deaf culture in the United States".  Pinging contributors 
.  Mathglot (talk) 00:15, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: No further comments here, please; the merge discussion has been moved; see link below. Mathglot (talk) 01:19, 30 November 2018 (UTC)

text: No longer at that location; can now be found here: Mathglot (talk) 07:13, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the tags from the article because the split to Deaf culture in the United States was accomplished 2 years ago, although I think both articles still might need a rebalancing.--Pharos (talk) 03:14, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge/rename 

message: I think it may be worth mentioning in this Wikipedia article about how Deaf People of Color are underrepresented within the U.S. Deaf Community. Several research articles have pointed out this fact and noted that, in general, Deaf literature and Deaf history being taught at schools are quite White-centric. In Deaf Education as well, Deaf Students of Color tend to have poorer academic outcomes than White Deaf students (especially those from Deaf families). Again, this can be corroborated by research studies, especially ones written by Deaf intersectional scholars/critical theorists. Anna Lim Franck 19:45, 17 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions to the 'Diversity within Deaf Culture' section 

message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Deaf supremacy. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  signed, Rosguill talk 22:28, 9 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Deaf supremacy" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The videos in this article only showing a man explaining something in American (?) Sign Language should either get subtitles or be removed. What's the point of having several videos on a topic on the English-language Wikipedia, that 99.9% of English speakers don't understand? 
Imagine the article on Armenian culture had videos in Armenian without subtitles explaining aspects of Armenian culture.
Neozoen (talk) 20:43, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice work on the subtitles.  I am new at this and supposed to ask a question for class assignment.  I was wondering how do we contribute to subtitle scripts for the remaining videos which do not currently have subtitles or CC?  Swoop Pedagogy (talk) 15:12, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Videos in the article 

message: I am currently working on a section on the Deaf Culture Wikipedia page to expand the Deaf LGBTQ institutions section, but this page is lacking discussion of the LGBTQ+ community outside of this section. I see under "Acculturation" that there is a section titled "Diversity within Deaf Culture." I believe this subhead should be separated into a new section and that diversity should refer to not only races, but also address the LGBTQ community. A subheader could be added addressing the intersection with the LGBTQ+ community. The section could note the prevalence of queer people in the Deaf community and discuss homophobia in the history of ASL. Further, it should discuss history of Deaf people leading efforts in the gay liberation movement, efforts of the National Gay and Lesbian Task Force to advocate for the Deaf community, development of resources and organizations for Deaf queer people, and Deaf drag.  Kmak 32 (talk) 17:00, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion: Diversity within Deaf Culture and LGBTQ+ 

message: An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect :Deaf ethnicity and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at  until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  An anonymous username, not my real name 21:34, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Deaf ethnicity" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]