Talk:Wiley (musician)

message: Heres some stuff on Wiley that could be used, and more that i haven't added yet.
Needs checking 
sites with info
htfr (hard to find records)
discogs
hyperdub (interview)
rwdmag
Dropped from XL recordings?
Had a deal as part of Roll Deep with record company that allowed him to 
continue making white label/underground releases?
What happenned in Ayai Napa? Dizzee was stabbed?
Other Beefs - Sharkey Major (pussy hole run)
More tracks need research checking
work with dizzee rascal, esp. Boy In Da Corner
We Ain't Having It
Take Time
Fix Up Look Sharp (Remix)
East Connection - We're Ready (wiley Remix)
Ginja Feat Lee-O - Delboys Theme (Wiley Remix)
Wideboys - What Could I Do (Wiley Remix)
Ice Rink
Break It (Roll Deep)
Capsule VIP
Pick Ya Self Up
Dirty Cash
United Grooves Collective - Wind Down Low
Pies
Avalanche
Blizzard
Eskiboy
Eskimo (Devil Mix)
Freeze
Ghetto Speech
Icepole
Igloo (What Do You Call It)
Morgue
Pulse Eskimo / Gunshot Riddim
Skydive
Snowcat
Snowman
Split It Down The Middle
What Can I Say (PAUG)
Frostbyte
Ground Zero
Happens For A Reason
Icy Mountains
Pulse X Dub of Heartless Crew Diss
Roll Out (Ludacris, Wiley Remix)
They Should Know
Blue Rizla
Wiley ft Kano - Baby
Dem Not Ready - (Wiley, dun no, breeze)
You Were Always (Wiley, Tincy Strider)
Boogyman (Wiley, Trim, D Double E)
Other work with Kano (Mic Fight?/Mic Check 1-2?)
Gotta Go Now (Roll Deep)
Times Are Changing (Roll Deep)
Salt Beef
Scorcher
Flow Dan, Big Mic Man
Beefs
So Solid - Illtemper
Radio Stations
Deja Vu, Rinse FM
Choice FM - Asher D vs Dizzee Rascal
Events
Eskimo Dance, Sidewinder
JUS OUTTA INTEREST HOW MUCH DID TREDDIN ON THIN ICE AND DA 2ND PHAZE SELL DID IT DO POORLY OR WAS IT  CERTIFIED NETHING
when did wiley beef with kano, he battled him on lord of the mic ut that wasn't beef
do u really need to list his mixtapes there not officle
^^ Yeah they are official, cleaned the discography a tiny bit. 
I added an Eskibeat Recordings section with the logo but I don't think it's on point (my opinion anyway), would anyone be able to fix it up a bit. 
Channel e-d 22:24, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Various Information Paste

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message: Just seen the video for this in You Tube, the one with Sir Paul McCartney and Heather Mills, very funny.  Can we link to it in the article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.143.70.75 (talk) 07:02, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Wearing my Rolex

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message: It seems to me that this section is somewhat wanting in terms of grammar, neutrality and citation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.235.50.183 (talk) 06:39, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Racism - Jay Sean Incident 

message: The section about his anti-Semitic tweets currently mentions how tweets from Jeremy Corbyn's twitter account thanking Wiley for his political support were deleted afterwards. I think this isn't relevant and should be removed. Public figures have been known to delete tweets, but where else does this get mentioned on wikipedia? This article isn't even about Corbyn. This inclusion seems like a politically motivated attempt to suggest guilt by association. 80.43.243.112 (talk) 21:03, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corbyn tweets 

message: The article currently says he breached Facebook’s ‘terms of conduct and abuse’. This is inaccurate as per the statement made by Facebook, and also Facebook does not have ‘terms of abuse’ - it has terms of use which themselves can be ‘abused’, but not ‘terms of abuse’ which can be broken. Facebook’s statement states he was deleted due to ‘repeated violations’ of their terms of conduct; not ‘abuse’ - which is an inflammatory word not stated by Facebook which has no place in an encyclopaedic entry of this nature. Cbdrolex (talk) 13:25, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terms of Use 

message: Somebody has incorrectly removed his MBE. While this may happen in the future, he is still an MBE. Please can someone fix this. Cbdrolex (talk) 13:31, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, and reinserted.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 08:31, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  MBE 

message: Let's be clear: Wiley is mainly famous as a racist conspiracy theorist, not as a musician. I realise this might be different in the UK, but that doesn't change things. As a musician who has rarely if ever made it into the charts throughout the world, Wiley is not someone most of us outside the UK had ever heard of before last week. Perhaps a few mentions in media if grime ever was discussed, but certainly no big news. In sharp contrast, his antisemitic outbursts have made headlines in many countries and are the reason many of us non-British first heard of Wiley. As per WP policy, the article and the lead should reflect this. The current lead, making no reference at all to the main reason he's known, would need to substantially rewritten to give as much prominence to his main claim to fame as to his music. Jeppiz (talk) 07:35, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's be clear - no.  Wiley is a musician, and has been since 1996.  The fact that he has come to prominence in the last week for racially charged statements does not suddenly change his entire status or career.  I agree that an additional comment in the lede may be appropriate, but an insistence that this is "his main claim to fame" is frankly ridiculous and similar to saying we should strip out all that book nonsense from the J. K. Rowling article and just say she's transphobic, because that's what people are talking about right now.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 08:04, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I see your point although the comparison with J.K. Rowling might not be entirely really accurate. She is mainly famous as the author of Harry Potter. It's a safe bet far more people are aware of Harry Potter than the current trans-row, and that we can find much more coverage in RS sources around the world for her authorship of Harry Potter. That's not the case for Wiley, for whom worldwide coverage in RS media is dominated by the current row. Having said that, I do agree it would be equally wrong to make it dominate the lead. I'd recommend a sentence in the first paragraph of the lead, and a paragraph at the end of the lead. Jeppiz (talk) 09:22, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Rowling wasn't intended to be accurate, in fact quite the opposite - it was a facetious comment to highlight the spectre and danger of WP:RECENT. Wiley is a musician who holds controversial opinions, and that's how the article and lede should show him.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 10:00, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. However Wiley's antisemitism is significant enough to be included in the lead. A single sentence at the end of the last para perhaps?Mr Miles (talk) 10:08, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unbalanced lead 

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