Talk:Carolina Nairne

message: I have a subscription to the BNA at the moment and whilst searching for information on Carolina Nairne I came across a reference to a book  The Scottish Songstress, written by her great grand-niece about her life and work, which is available online here Richerman (talk) 22:07, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: From further searching on the BNA I've found that her best known song for many years was Land o'the Leal  which was attributed to Burns for a long time. On the website I've given it says she claimed herself to have written it, but in the newspaper article I have from 1884 it seems the controversy was still ongoing but the editor says he is in possession of a letter from a member of her family saying she had written it. I've also got the lyrics of Would Ye Be Young Again? if they're of interest. Richerman (talk) 23:03, 20 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I've also found an interesting titbit in the The Evening Telegraph (Dundee) 10 October 1888 in an article entitled "CAROLINA, BARONESS NAIRNE. THE PERTHSHIRE POETESS. (From the Sun.)": "One of her songs, The Attainted Scottish Nobles, was sung to George IV. on his vi»it to Scotland in 1822, and learning that the author of it was the wife of one of the gentlemen who had suffered for their fidelity to the Stuart cause, had the courtesy restore to Major Nairne his title of Baron" This is confirmed on page 48 and 49 of The Scottish Songstress, where it adds that the petition was brought before the king by Sir Walter Scott. I would add it myself but it would mean rejigging the text so I'll leave that up to the main editors. Richerman (talk) 00:05, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that source Richerman. I'm sure you'll understand that I have no intention of doing anything more with this article in the current climate. I achieved what I set out to, which was to update the article – which was largely based on the 1911 DNB – into something that was less of an embarrassment. I realise of course that that's an ephemeral thing, as it will no doubt turn into the usual gray goo soon enough, but I have no power to do anything about that. It's become an unproductive time sink from my perspective, and there's so many other things to be getting on with anyway. There's no article on "The land o' the leal", for instance, but I'll not be rushing to help with that any time soon. One might have thought that WP would be supportive of any effort to improve the coverage of women, but evidently not.  Eric Corbett 02:16, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, fair enough. There seem to be lots of others interested in getting it just right so expect they'll be happy to get stuck in and sort it out - BTW shouldn't that be "grey goo" in British English? :-) Richerman (talk) 10:50, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: @Richerman The term originated in Engines of Creation which was written in American English, hence "gray goo". This being Wikipedia, our article is of course at the other spelling because an IP created this drivel in 2003 and the Great God MOS:RETAIN doesn't allow anyone to change it. ‑ Iridescent 11:49, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll let them have that one then. I asked a long question on the science reference desk about car tyres once and some kind soul went through my post and changed every instance of tyres to tires. I told him thanks, but no thanks. Richerman (talk) 14:26, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
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message: The IPA (phonetic) transcription of her surname should be added so foreign readers know how to say it. 1.127.111.186 (talk) 12:35, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add IPA of Name