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Talk:Race and intelligence/Archive 4

message: I appreciate POM's work but I think the new intro is way, way too wordy.  The intro should have the minimum amount needed, with the details in the body or -- since there is a linked article all about "race and debates about the meaning of race -- in the article specifically on race. Slrubenstein
I think I may have put my finger on the problem we have. I'll try to explain, and this may help with the intro. It is true of both the idea "race" and the idea "intelligence" that a strict analysis of its definition is not easy to produce. We can offer an ostensive definition, and give example, but both concepts are "fuzzy". We're trying to be as accurate as possible in the intro to describe these fuzzy/subtle ideas. This produces a wordy intro. There are "consensus" definition to be had -- basically you do a survey of experts and calculate an average definition. For example, among intelligence researchers, 99.3% would include "abstract thinking and reason," 97.7% would say "problem solving ability", and 96% would say "capacity to acquire knowledge." But only 80.5% would say "memory," 71.7% "mental speed," and 62.4% "general knowledge" are elements of intelligence. Likewise with race, biologists have a biological definition, sociologists have a sociological definition, and the "common-sense" definition is quite vague and depends on context.
What we might be able to say something like -- Researchers have recognized and studied many aspects that are associated/correlated with race/intelligence. A complete analysis is lacking because the words are applied to many different but related concepts. Many common-sense and historical notions about race and intelligence have been since abandoned. The current understanding is very nuanced and differs between fields. ... and so on --Rikurzhen
Quote:"For the purpose of economy of expression, this article will use the word "race" as a substitute for the scientifically more precise term "population" and not as an equivalent to "subspecies".
:I dont think this is right. Either this article resides in the social world and hence still uses the unfortunate term, "race," or its a scientific article which instead uses "subspecies" and "population." To use the term "race" just because it happens to be in the title, or because it has six less letters, is not valid, in my view. -Stevertigo 03:29, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  new intro 

message: :In western society children commonly play with pencils or crayons and paper from the age of about two onwards.
This can later give them an advantage in any IQ test involving pencil and paper or pen and paper. The advantage will be culturally determined.
The above passage was added by an anon. contributor. I have removed it because, as it stands, it is unsubstantiated. P0M 17:55, 28 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed from Article
Talk:Compound Poisson process

message: Please.  It does not make sense to say "Let ... be a compound Poisson process... Then ...." when you're DEFINING the concept of compound Poisson process.  Only when stating a THEOREM or proposition about such a process does that syntax make any sensse. Michael Hardy 22:49, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)

message: Disagree about merging this article with Poisson process. That one is already a big article. Rather, this article should be expanded. Oleg Alexandrov 01:29, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Merging with [[Poisson process]]

message: I am a common user of wikipedia.org.
There is an entry "compound Poisson process), on which page the mean value and
the variance are given.
However, I can get the mean value but cannot the variance as shown on the page.
I want to make sure whether the variance value calculation on that page is
correct.
Thanks a lot.
:(The above is the text of an email I got today. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 17:24, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If the definition of the process is correct, then the mean and variance look right to me.  Also, was the person who sent you the mail the one who made the anonymous edits earlier today?  Lunch 19:08, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't know, could be. Oleg Alexandrov (talk) 19:57, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I added final calculation of the moment generating function, and it confirms the result.  I didn't check the individual steps in the variance calculation, though. — Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 20:12, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Using "well-known" properties of the moment generating function, \operatorname{var}(X)=\left .{\frac{d^2}{ds^2}\ln M_X(s)}\right|_{s=0} and E\left(X^2\right)=\left .\frac{d^2}{ds^2}M_X(s)\right|_{s=0}, we can easily see the desired result. — Arthur Rubin |  (talk) 20:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the variance correct? 

message: I think the rate of the compounded poisson process has to be λ*f(x) where f(x) is the density of the iid random variables
:using the notation from the article, note that the expected value of a compound poisson process is E(Y(t)) = \lambda t E(D) (versus λt for a simple poisson process).  is this what you're referring to?  Lunch 21:41, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the rate λ still correct for the compounded poisson process? 

message: I feel it might be appropriate to add the assumption 
 E[|D_1|] < \infty  before calculating the mean of the process.
Fladnaese (talk) 18:47, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Existence of the mean?

message: Simar's algorithm, despite the title of the paper, is for mixtures of Poisson distributions, and not for the compound Poisson process as referred to in this article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.52.24.78 (talk) 11:17, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simar's algorithm might not the right choice here
Talk:Slow Riot for New Zero Kanada

message: i talked to a jew friend i know and he says its actually "t' huvav' hu"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.78.242.195 (talk) 19:44, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  hebrew characters 

message: I feel like the Hebrew Bible quote here is way too long, and frankly a bit unnecessary. I just want to confirm before I delete anything.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pharkryi (talk • contribs) 21:43, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hebrew bible quote too long? 
Talk:Sarah Knox Taylor

message: This article clears up why James Mcpherson describes Jefferson Davis as Taylor's "former son-in-law" in Battle Cry Freedom--thanks:).  --CMacD
Why did her father not approve of the marriage between her and Jefferson Davis--216.7.248.254 20:35, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Did Sarah Knox Taylor marry Davis?  If so, did she take his name?  If she took his name, why is the article not under her married name?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.139.123.126 (talk) 19:14, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: They were married such a short time that she was probably not generally referred to by her married name.Parkwells (talk) 14:32, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Taylor or Davis

message: Her birthdate is given as March 6, 1814.  
A statement is made in the article, without citation, that March 6, 2013 was designated as a day in her honor in Prairie du Chien. I have been unable to find any verification of this, but since that's the 199th anniversary of her birth - and such occasions are usually marked on even dates (such as the 200th anniversary), I have doubts whether the uncredited statement is 100% accurate.
Jnmwiki (talk) 21:16, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates
Talk:CMU (disambiguation)

message: ----
Central Michigan does not own the trademark to CMU.  Do a search on USPTO's trademark website to prove it to yourself.  Please stop propogating the false statement.
:I agree with Andres. :)  Your edit that the copyright issue was a "myth" was way out of line and non-NPOV. I think the current version (comment "wait--this is better") is NPOV and accurate, except for the "Carnegie Mellon tried to trademark CMU" anecdote, which I hadn't heard; feel free to clarify. Look at the page history; this war has been going back and forth since August.
:Furthermore, regardless of whether or not Central Mich owns the trademark, it's certainly verifiable that (1) Central Mich say they do, and (2) Carnegie Mellon agrees with them.  Happy New Year. —ajo, 1 Jan
::In the same paragraph, they claim the word "Central" as a trademark.  I'm not sure how seriously I would take this claim. --Daniel 19:03, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
Talk:Murder of Brooke Hart and the lynching of Thomas Harold Thurmond and John M. Holmes

message: Thurmond is arrested twice and Hart's body is found twice -- this reads like two separate articles interleaved into one.  I could take a stab at fixing this, but I'm not as familiar with the subject matter as others might be.--NapoliRoma (talk) 00:20, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  copyedit needed 

message: findadeath.com reports that Hart was a frat brother (Santa Clara University) and good friend of the actor Jackie Coogan. CFLeon (talk) 19:26, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Jackie Coogan

message: There are some striking photos in a NY Daily News article on this:
http://www.nydailynews.com/news/ny_crime/2010/09/12/2010-09-12_they_had_it_coming_gov_glad_mob_lynched_killers.html
I don't have the computer know-how to upload them. -- Michael David (talk) 18:09, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Computer know-how is not the problem. The photograph is owned by San Jose Mercury News. It is recommend to get permission from them before adding it to Wikipedia. The age of the photograph may mean it is fine to copy but there could still be some copyright issues. --Traveler100 (talk) 05:31, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  NY Daily News Photos 

message: The crowd gathered three different times and psychiatrists visited twice. This really needs some help. If I come back and nothing has been changed, I'll give it a go. Ngmcs8203 (talk) 06:21, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  So Much Duplication 
Talk:Communes of the Calvados department

message: I came across Communes of the Calvados département while doing one of my "10 random pages" project fix-ups, to Perrières. It was established in May 2004.
From the history, I can only guess that someone (69.197.51.18) intended it as a cross-connected list of INSEE and Postal codes for France. I suspect that there are other similar pages, too!
How about some work, User:Olivier?
Peter Ellis 00:56, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at List of ZIP Codes in Delaware. It is a simpler format (in Wiki) and saves many bytes. I will see what I can do. Peter Ellis 03:14, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: This worked well: copy the table to a word processor; use Find and Replace searching for the tr td tags replacing with *; do the same for td replacing with ´ - ´; copy back to the edit page, and fix the header line of the ex-. Peter Ellis 03:30, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)

text: The original reason for doing the clean-up of HTML to Wiki format was because Wiki was (automatically) reporting that the byte-count was beyond the normal range and suggesting that the page be split to reduce download times. I will proceed and then there is an option for others to revert. As for other information... Mmmm... Yes, but... the originator did not come back between May and December to do any of that, AND would this not be better placed in the articles on the communes and cantons? Peter Ellis 05:16, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:L'Hospitalet de Llobregat

message: What is the official name of this city, is it L'Hospitalet de Llobregat or L'Hospitalet, even the municipal website of the city does not give clear answer on that. It uses the name L'Hospitalet only 99% of the time including the statistical data on the city.
I would appreciate some info on that.
VicFromTheBlock
:The official name is L'Hospitalet de Llobregat, but everyone calls it L'Hospitalet. The entire name is only used to distinguish it from L'Hospitalet dels Infants. --ReiVaX 21:56, 6 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Only an exiguous minority of the city's residential population is autochthonous to Catalonia 
On my phone atm but this sentence could probably be cleaned up to use more common language.  --TheSeer (TalkˑContribs) 04:18, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Academic gobbledyguk
Talk:The Bugaloos

message: Mikkalai, your recent edit referencing the Boogaloo style of music is highly inaccurate. I don't think you've ever seen it. As a childhood fan of the show, I can vouch that the show's musical styling was nothing remotely similar to Latin dance music. Please revert your contribution.
:Sorry, I just wanted to explain the origin of the name. I was not accurate enough. Mikkalai 02:04, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem, but I don't think many will confuse "boogaloo" with "Bugaboo", they really aren't that similar sounding. I don't think the Boogaloo reference should be included. ---Jackel 18:10, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: While the style of music had no latin influence, it is possible that the producers were going for a play on words with "bug" and "boogaloo" in it's generic, layman's sense of meaning. Actually I had never thought of boogaloo as Latin. I had thought that it was the term from which boogie-woogie and boogie had been derived from. A dance party where people would dance to boogie.
I could be wrong.
Also, am I the only one who understood (as a kid) that the Bugaloos were fairies in Tranquility Forest? That is why they had the wings, were the same size as fireflies, why they could walk around inside an old jukebox, and why the forest was much larger in proportion. They were a fairy rock band!
Of course the thing I couldn’t understand is what Benita was. But then, not all fairies have wings.
Rod Lockwood 02:05, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boogaloo / Bugaloo etymology 

message: Would it be worth pointing out the similarities between the characters of Benita Bizarre and the Boss Witch character from the 1970 "Punfstuf" movie?  Though their costumes were different, both characters' personalities and physical makeup (e.g. those glittery eyelids and that long, needle nose) were very similar.  Both were portrayed by Martha Raye.  Most significant of all, both of them had a Nazi rat for a flunky (the Boss Witch's rat was referred to as "Heinrich," and had a skull & crossbones on his hat instead of the BB, but otherwise was the same character).  Could Tranquility Forest actually be a part of Living Island?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by GretaG (talk • contribs) 00:24, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Benita Bizarre = Boss Witch from "Pufnstuf" Movie? 

message: Just thought of letting everyone know Sid and Marty Krofft have confirmed at the 2016 comic con of a Bugaloos reboot, they still aren't releasing a whole lot of details but from what I read they are talking to a cable network. I think its going to be more like a preschool show for children and Cyndi Lauper is supposedly going to play Benita Bizarre  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:642:4280:8EE0:A8E1:5AF6:D3DA:2374 (talk) 02:18, 18 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bugaloos Remake coming soon
Talk:Urban secession

message: The U.S. section needs to be rewritten completely, citing reliable sources and avoiding geographic bias.  Not all states observe the distinction between charter cites and general-law cities, nor are counties and townships always merely administrative organs of the state government.  Also, while the article does not explain what it means for a city to be "answerable" to a county government, cities in many states are subject to the dictates of county governments in the counties' spheres of competence.  Finally, editors are asked to keep in mind that just because something is the case in their own states, that does not make it a general rule throughout the U.S.  Doctor Whom (talk) 21:31, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Absent comment in over a month, I'll take care of this. Doctor Whom (talk) 16:24, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The U.S. section

message: I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
::This template is not meant to be a permanent resident on any article. Remove this template whenever:
::#There is consensus on the talkpage or the NPOV Noticeboard that the issue has been resolved
::#It is not clear what the neutrality issue is, and no satisfactory explanation has been given
::#In the absence of any discussion, or if the discussion has become dormant.
Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 00:39, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  removing POV tag with no active discussion per [[Template:POV]]
Talk:Anecdote

message: Anecdotes are always based on real life; an example is Wallace Stevens's "Anecdote of the Jar," discussed in Frank Lentricchia's essay, "In Place of an Afterword--Someone Reading," from Critical Terms for Literary Study (Chicago, 1995), p.429.  
Lentricchia writes: "There's a little story once told by Wallace Stevens that I have to replot as I retell it.  The story (Stevens's and mine) is actually an 'anecdote': from the Greek, anekdota, meaning unpublished items.  More familiarly, in English, a small gossipy narrative generally of an amusing, biographical incident in the life of a famous person whose biography's broad outline has long been a matter of public record.  And more: this biography is often--when the famous person is also exemplary--a concentrated representation of the idealized story that a culture would like to tell about itself.  Like all anecdotes, then, the one I have in mind can't work as an anecdote unless it somehow tells a story beyond the one it tells."  The forest's edge 21:02, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wallace Stevens

message: *Thermodynamics anecdotes
--Libb Thims (talk) 02:24, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Famous thermodynamics anecdotes

message: I'm sure there's a much better word for "stupid evidence," as well, I don't think stupid a neutral stance on the topic. "Subjective Evidence" or "Circumstantial Evidence" would be much better.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.113.189.68 (talk) 18:03, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Stupid Evidence?
Talk:Nitzer Ebb

message: is there a good classification for nitzer ebb in the electronic genre? or should this remain unclassified?
:Nitzer ebb are considered to be ebm (electronic body music) urghh.
:I'm always at odds with describing in such vague terms - some of their stuff does sound like EBM, or hard techno, or electro, or elctro blues, or rock, or synth pop, or pop music.  It just sounds like Nitzer Ebb - lots of acts try very hard to sound like NE, but never quite get there.
::I'd say that their "Basic Pain Procedure" has a huge Post-Punk sound to it.JanderVK (talk) 11:47, 9 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Style

message: Quote: They shared an interest in ... talking to trees
Is that supposed to be a joke?  If not, I'd like to see a reference, please. Maikel (talk) 19:53, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Trees?

message: ...but defo no objectively-written article. "perfect electronic album". YMMV. At least 50% of this stuff would need to be rewritten. Oh my. This is gonna be a long shot. -andy 92.229.148.83 (talk) 01:59, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: A true fan site...

message: There seem to be some records missing.
Maybe because the list is limited to "Studio albums and EPs".
In my collection I also found 
* Nitzer Ebb - Body Work Remixes (2006) 
* Nitzer Ebb - Rhythm Control (1992)
* Nitzer Ebb - Loveland (1991) (2CD, London) (Live)
but actually two of them are Live, so they 'don't qualify'. But I see no good reason to not also include a table of 'non-studio albums and EPs'
Not even sure this ought to be a different table. A column 'Studio / Live' might suffice.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Qarkino (talk • contribs) 12:40, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Discoraphy
Talk:Synod of Dort

message: Information about Frederick Calder (also Frederic) would be welcome. He was a Wesleyan Methodist minister. His son of the same name was a Cambridge graduate (). In any case his book is surely partisan. Charles Matthews (talk) 07:20, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Calder

message: If no one objects, I'd like to consider a stand-alone list. There being over 100, this seems justified. Charles Matthews (talk) 08:39, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: List of participants
Talk:Jim Crace

message: I sent a note to jim-crace.com (the site listed in his books) for copyright permission, and hope to flesh out details here.--Bookandcoffee 02:11, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This article has been reverted by a bot to  as part of a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement. (See the investigation subpage) This has been done to remove User:Accotink2's contributions as they have a history of extensive copyright violation and so it is assumed that all of their major contributions are copyright violations. Earlier text must not be restored, unless it can be verified to be free of infringement. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Contributors may use sources as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. VWBot (talk) 14:23, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright problem
Talk:National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws

message: I can't believe I left out "the". Hyacinth 02:48, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: How so? Rad Racer 03:07, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: I was the one who moved it. See . They always say "NORML" instead of "The NORML". An exception was one of their pamphlets, which said "About the National Organization for the Reform of Marijuana Laws" Rad Racer 04:15, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Page move

message: ...that there has not been a single death attrubuted to marijuana or that marijuana is not chemically adictive.  You also did not say anything about the probation haulting marijuana research. Since all gangs sell pot thus the probation increases crime and because the gangs tries to get other people to use it; it increases the use.—Preceding unsigned comment added by  (talk • contribs) 
: Find a valid source and add it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.32.193.80 (talk) 02:10, 5 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: You did not mention...
Talk:Megacryometeor

message: Nice example of plagiarism on Wikipedia:
http://www.explore-weather.com/weather/M/Megacryometeor.html
Well done, guys! I wonder how the real author feels that you've taken copyrighted material, and now are offering it up under the license of your choosing.
:Thanks for your contribution. I followed your link and found this text at the bottom:
::This article was derived fully or in part from an article on Wikipedia - the free encyclopedia. All text is available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License.
So if this is the plagiarism that you are referring to, it's fine - they're copying from us and that's OK. If the material is taken from a truly copyrighted source, then that's a problem. Let us know if you find such a source. Cheers, -Willmcw 00:34, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagiarism 

message: Removed  from the lede. Not ref'd, only decent ref I could find was this which describes it being "from space" which makes it a regular meteor. Probably not reliable source, may not have happened. Herostratus (talk) 11:57, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Morocco 