Talk:B. R. Ambedkar

message: :The following discussion is an archived record of a request for comment. Please do not modify it.  No further edits should be made to this discussion.  A summary of the conclusions reached follows.
::There is unanimous consensus that :File:Colorised Ambedkar.png should not be used, and that the current image (:File:Dr. Bhimrao Ambedkar.jpg) should remain. Tol (talk | contribs) @ 16:18, 11 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for comment on infobox image change

message: Wouldn't be correct transcription of the name Bhimrav … ? Regards, —Mykhal (talk) 05:15, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No wt are saying aa.. 2409:4071:4D42:EDC1:8401:CBF3:9AD2:84E4 (talk) 01:52, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: The IPA transliteration given for Babasaheb is incorrect. The word is written in Marathi as well as Sanskrit as बाबासाहेब, which when converted to Latin script through ISO 15919, results in 'Bābāsāheb', and when compared with Help:IPA/Sanskrit, gives the correct IPA transliteration as [baːbaːsaːɦeb].
Therefore I request that [bʌbəsɑheb] be changed to [baːbaːsaːɦeb]. Thank you SomePacifisticGuy (talk) 11:53, 17 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for change in IPA transliteration of 'Babasaheb' 

message: The text of the article says:   
The source cited for this does not mention that it was in Central Provinces.  The source says:   Please can you make a suitable correction.-- Toddy1 (talk) 20:21, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The latter is correct, but sidesteps the Central India Agency question.  Indore State was a part of the Central India Agency, commonly just called "Central India," just as Jaipur State was a part of Rajputana Agency, commonly called "Rajputana," or Porbandar a part of Kathiawar Agency; all the "Agencies" were groupings of princely states, which the British oversaw with residents.  "Madhya Bharata" was the name given to Central India during the period of the Dominion of India (from 1947 to 1950, and probably for some time thereafter until Madhya Pradesh came into being which incorporated both Central Provinces and Central India and maybe a few other small political units.  You may view its map in Dominion_of_India#Dominion_Constitution_and_Government.  Mhow on the other hand was a British garrison town in a princely state. I'll check if it had any independent existence outside of CIA; if it did, it might explain why Jaffrelot is resorting to that circumlocution.  Thank you. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 20:44, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

text: The Census of India, 1891, the year Ambedkar's birth,  mentions Central India and Mhow in paragraphs 14 and 15 in volume 1, Intro, published 1890, page 177.  This is not a reliable source but gives a feel for that time, at least in the official document. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:11, 18 February 2022 (UTC)

text: And the enumeration, published 1892, says on page 22], that Mhow (cantonment), Indore State, Central India,  increased in population by 4.5K from the previous census of 1881. I wonder if baby Bhimrao was counted in it.  Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:17, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I see, (I was going to remove that [Central Provinces] though went per article body) but agencies have not been added in infoboxes and with other details such as district et al are just WP:OVERLINKING (all of which were recently added). Reduced them from infobox per MOS and removed the mention of Province from body. Gotitbro (talk) 04:12, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Central Provinces  

message: Add the category ":Category:Marathi people" as Dr. BR Ambedkar had Marathi heritage as mentioned in article GujaratiHistoryinDNA (talk) 00:23, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: --Krutarth (talk) 01:52, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 March 2022 

message: He was a social reformer ,activist 117.215.149.37 (talk) 13:04, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:15, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 15 March 2022 

message: In early life section, it says  In his book Waiting for Visa, he says  This suggests that he was allowed inside the class but had to sit in corner. 
Either the sentence can be removed, since the line before it mentions untouchable children were segregated, or rewritten that Ambedkar was made sit in corner by himself.--Krutarth (talk) 17:30, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: He's been hagiographed to death and unlike Gandhi he was a grandiose figure; it is hard to know what the truth was.  He was after all the recipient of an elite education (Elphinstone Bombay, Columbia, LSE); the discrimination was very likely not so extreme as have deprived him of an education altogether which was the case with most Dalits, even the very talented ones. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:15, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

text: But, regardless, being a Dalit in late 19th-century early 20th-century India, he had to have experienced discrimination, perhaps even a more humiliating kind than one of merely having sit outside the classroom. Dalits are still discriminated against in manifold ways. Will look for sources. Thanks for posting. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 21:56, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  School segregation 

message: Change "literary translation" to "literal translation" in the intro. Jānis Barbans (talk) 17:05, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. I don't see that prose in this article. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:12, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 23 March 2022 

message: Under the section about the LSE, could we add a link to his LSE student file, which you can freely download from here? https://www.lse.ac.uk/library/assets/documents/Ambedkars-LSE-student-file.pdf That PDF link is presented on this page, in case that is a better link https://www.lse.ac.uk/library/whats-on/exhibitions/educate-agitate-organise  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Politicscurator (talk • contribs) 09:25, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't really add it to the article main body, as it is a primary source.  I am delighted to add it to the external links.  I read much of that file and was impressed by how highly his professors rated him. A man of considerable genius he certainly was, one in a million.  Thank you for posting this and for the link. Fowler&fowler«Talk» 09:57, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Wonderful, thank you! Politicscurator (talk) 09:58, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 April 2022 

message: Bharataratn Dr. B. R. Ambedkar Mr. Jyoshil (talk) 17:42, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: We don't use titles in article names. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 17:52, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 12 April 2022 

message: The local description of this page is Former minister of law and justic in india But it should be 'The Father of Indian Constitution'. Please do this change. Shreyas143 (talk) 01:49, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. – Jonesey95 (talk) 02:01, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 24 October 2022 

message: Babasaheb Dr. B.R. Ambedkar did not get his surname from a Marathi Brahmin Teacher whose surname was Ambedkar. There is evidence for proving that. Babasaheb got his surname from his village's name.Babasaheb Dr.B.R. Ambedkar's elder brother Bala also had this surname which is mentioned in the official documents. so, please remove this error of information from the Wikipedia Dr. B.R. Ambedkar's page's Early life Part. This can lead to a controversy also because it is fake information that is present on that Wikipedia page.So, change the information that Babasaheb Dr. b.R. Ambedkar got his surname Ambedkar from a Marathi Brahmin Teacher whose surname was Ambedkar to the information that Babasaheb Dr. B.R. Ambedkar got his surname Ambedkar from his village's name "Ambadawe". 43.231.55.155 (talk) 06:45, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have reliable sources for confirming this information? Aman Kumar Goel (Talk) 06:48, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 April 2023 

message: Babasaheb Dr. B.R. Ambedkar did not get his surname from a Marathi Brahmin Teacher whose surname was Ambedkar. There is evidence for proving that. Babasaheb got his surname from his village's name.Babasaheb Dr.B.R. Ambedkar's elder brother Bala also had this surname which is mentioned in the official documents. so, please remove this error of information from the Wikipedia Dr. B.R. Ambedkar's page's Early life Part. This can lead to a controversy also because it is fake information that is present on that Wikipedia page. The change should be done from Wikipedia page named Dr. B.R. Ambedkar's Early life Part.
Please change "His Marathi Brahmin teacher, Krishnaji Keshav Ambedkar, changed his surname from 'Ambadawekar' to his own surname 'Ambedkar' in school records" to "His original surname was Sakpal but his father registered his name as Ambadawekar in school, meaning he comes from his native village 'Ambadawe' in Ratnagiri district." 43.231.55.155 (talk) 06:49, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Lightoil (talk) 08:24, 9 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 9 April 2023 (3) 

message: The heading written is wrong. So please take note of that it's not only B.R.Ambedkar but it is Dr.B.R.Ambedkar. Because Man's reputation is considered by its Educations. And we Indians inspired from Dr.B.R.Ambedkar through his Education. 
So I hope you can change the heading in correct manner.
Thank you. 112.79.73.64 (talk) 09:22, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see MOS:DOC. Rasnaboy (talk) 14:25, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heading is Wrong. 

message: Religion - Hindu Atheist Rebel (talk) 10:00, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Deltaspace42 (talk • contribs) 10:34, 18 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 December 2023 

message: hello. 
Looking at your edits, it looks like you are deliberately omitting the mention of Ambedkar's barrister degree, why? Your edits - 6 August 2023 and 22 January 2024. 
In 1922, Ambedkar was called to the bar and became a "barrister-at-law". source. 2409:4042:806:ACAA:38B2:7060:FC8B:DDE4 (talk) 16:21, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: He was called to the bar there, but did not earn a degree as you mentioned. GuardianH (talk) 16:25, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't Grays Inn Ambedkar's alma matter as you deleted? Is Barrister-at-Law a degree? 2409:4042:806:ACAA:927:3ABE:CF77:6CD4 (talk) 20:18, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a little different in the UK. They may study there, but being called to the bar does not mean earning a degree. A Barrister-at-Law is a profession, not a degree. GuardianH (talk) 23:05, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. But Ambedkar studied law at Gray's Inn, and that should be mentioned in the article's infobox, along with Columbia University and LSE. 2409:4042:806:ACAA:ADD4:7751:95CC:297A (talk) 10:04, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: My understanding is that the Inns of Court are not usually displayed in the infobox, unless the subject spent more than the usual amount of time there. It's more like gaining an accreditation there rather than receiving a formal education. When I added it to the infobox originally, I thought it might add some value, but it just extends this rather long infobox. GuardianH (talk) 18:29, 23 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  removing Barrister-at-Law 

message: You should mention which party elected ambedkar as rajiyasabha member. Jana santha parent party of bjp. HariHaran Honest (talk) 23:59, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who helped in 1952 

message: Italic 103.183.90.156 (talk) 07:49, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It is unclear what you want done. Peaceray (talk) 20:47, 13 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  When was B R Ambedkar awarded with Yugpurush  

message: Br ambedkar biography 2409:4070:478C:B7C2:D9F1:5E52:F5B1:3A0D (talk) 15:00, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Social 

message: "We should remove the whole paragraph where Indira, the wife of jagjivan Ram mentioned that ambedkar persuaded jagjivan Ram to talk to Mahatma Gandhi for the giving him a post in a cabinet of Nehru ministry. It has no any valid evident it's just a personal view even jagjivan Ram never mentioned that. 
We all know how ideologically both Ambedkar and jagjivan Ram are different poles apart." Callmehelper (talk) 10:16, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: . It is accurately attributed and reliably sourced. Ratnahastin (talk) 02:43, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 1 June 2024