Talk:North Africa during classical antiquity

message: This page is the heart of the maze of redirects. We have:
Africa (Roman province) redirecting to Africa Province, Roman Empire
Africa (province) redirecting to Africa Province, Roman Empire
Africa Proconsularis redirecting to Africa (province)
Roman Africa redirecting to Africa Province, Roman Empire
I've changed the Proconsularis redirect to Africa Province, Roman Empire and the Roman Africa redirect to North Africa in the Classical Period.
I suggest the correct action is to name the name the main article 'Africa Proonsularis' on the model of Aegyptus and Britannia. That will take an administrator to move Africa Province, Roman Empire.
It may be a good idea to move North Africa during the Classical Period to Roman Africa because North Africa in the Classical period is counter-intuitive compared with Roman Africa.
:Looks like nobody's been maintaining this for a while but I'll chime in anyway.
:The naming of the article is definitely not appropriate. Granted the meaning of the term "Africa" has changed but I think Wikipedia should default to the modern meanings of things unless there is a specific reason not to (and then it should be clear). "North Africa" obviously refers to a lot more than what is discussed here. A better name might be Central North Africa during the Classical Period.
:Frankly, I'm not sure this article is really appropriate anyway. It certainly has an overlap with Africa Province (which is what Roman Africa should be redirecting to; I don't understand why it is redirecting here). It also has overlap with Carthage. The only part of this that is not necessarily well covered is the Vandal/Byzantine period. I would propose  that this article be done away with replaced by one or two articles on the Vandal/Byzantine period of "Africa" (the Eastern Romans still called it "Africa" so the name is appropriate in that context). Then change the History of Algeria time line to substitute this article with Carthage -> Africa Provice (should be called Roman Africa) -> Vandal/Byzantine Africa.
:And I would definitely oppose renaming this article to "Roman Africa" since that is what the subject of Africa Province is.
:--Mcorazao 22:32, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect troubles

message: I know these pages get a lot of naive "Berber-promoting" material. 
This is a problem. The solution is to watch the pages, revert poor edits, and perhaps even constructively work on improving them. It is not a solution to just scrap them.
This is a sub-article of History of North Africa. Merging the page into History of Africa(!) is about as ill-advised as it gets. If anything, the History of Africa page needs to be slimmed down to a clean WP:SS format, but it certainly doesn't need added bloat from merges, especially merges from pages that are shut down because they have been vandalised. --dab (𒁳) 16:35, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You did not undo any merge at all, you simply created tons of duplication, which was the problem I fixed in the first place. If you're gonna put a bunch of content here, then you need to drastically shrink what's in History of Africa and add a main article link (). If this doesn't happen, I will redo the merge to not have duplicate material. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 19:06, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: undone merger, cleanup

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