Talk:Scott O'Grady

message: I recently reverted the changes made to this article by User:NEMT.  My basic disagreement is rather minor overall, however I think changing the phrase, "he was shot down in his F-16 by Bosnian Serb forces"  to "ejecting from his F-16 amidst anti-aircraft fire from Bosnian Serb forces"  detracts from what actually happened.  This new statements makes it seem like the anti-aircraft fire didn't cause the F-16 to be shot down, while the CNN article indicates that it did.  And while he did eject from his F16 I don't really think that is what gained him prominence, so much as his story of survival over the following days.  I've reverted this once already, and NEMT has changed it back, so I'm looking for some consensus on this issue so that this article can remain in the neutral point of view and true to the facts. Thanks -- malo (tlk) (cntrbtns) 05:39, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The current phrasing of the opening sentence follows the structure of Scott O'Grady (not his F-16) being shot down.  The phrase "shot down" implies he went down with his plane and survived a crash, something which would certainly be noteworthy and would be a likely assumption to uninformed readers, considering the encyclopedic nature of Wikipedia.  Additionally, whether or not O'Grady ejected before or after his plane became critically damaged is not a matter of fact, however, his experience and mistakes casually being used as examples of what not to do in a dangerous situation for new military aviators, most notably US Marine pilots, suggests he may not have followed proper ejection protocol (most notably his elevation was far too high).  In any event, my main gripe with the wording is mentioning O'Grady being "shot down," without any mentioned of his ejecting. NEMT 06:47, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Phrasing

message: This article was automatically  assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 04:16, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: This website should have something about Scott's parents!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.171.116.108 (talk • contribs) 15:52, 30 March 2008
: What would you like to see with regard to his parents?  Do you have a reliable source for this information? — ERcheck (talk) 16:04, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Parents

message: O'Grady is in the American Roman Catholics category while the article says that he studied at Dallas Theological Seminary which is Protestant.  Did he convert or did an editor wrongly assume that anyone with an Irish surname must be a Roman Catholic? Greenshed (talk) 01:49, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: On reading the article, I had the same question. You deserve a response. There's nothing to prevent a titular Roman Catholic from attending a Protestant seminary, and many Catholics do (as well as vice versa). But DTS has historically required every student to sign a statement of faith adhering to the dispensational premillennial view; so, although DTS doesn't profess a denominational affiliation or exclude anyone on such a basis, the statement of faith (essentially a creed) would be a definite deterrent to enrollment by a Catholic who adheres to the doctrine of the Roman Catholic Church, with its incorporated dogma of Augustinian amillennialism. Observe that the Nicene Creed, as recited in American Roman Catholic congregations, contains the following statement: "He [Jesus] will come again with glory, to judge the living and the dead, and of His kingdom there will be no end." The Nicene Creed does not say that he will come again to reign for 1000 years and then judge the living and the dead, but that he will come again to judge the living and the dead. O'Grady must have converted from Catholicism because, as an ethical person, he hardly could say the Nicene Creed and sign the DTS creed simultaneously.  Rammer (talk) 18:40, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
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message: He's also involved with the Banja Luka incident before shot down and shot down 1 enemy aircraft.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Wiknerd (talk • contribs) 12:40, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Banja Luka incident 

message: The Mrkonjić Grad incident article is essentially about Scott O'Grady's claim to fame. The articles are both quite short and would benefit from being merged. Scott O'Grady is a more likely search term than Mrkonjić Grad incident. DrKay (talk) 19:05, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

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message: The editor claims falsehoods under the "Nomination: Assistant Secretary of Defense for International Security Affairs" section. While the referenced CNN article referenced does mention his tweets, there is no reference proving falsehoods. This portion reads like an opinion piece. I suggest leaving the article reference of his tweets, but simply removing the "falsehood" claims. Derekrck1 (talk) 02:48, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: In the CNN coverage referenced, "falsely" is used in reference to the tweeted claims four times, "falsehoods" twice, "false claim" once, and "baseless" twice. The WP:RS source is quite clear that the claims in O'Grady's tweets are conspiracy theories and falsehoods. IHateAccounts (talk) 03:21, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 December 2020