Talk:Colt Walker

message: Several posts in this article are in need of citation and are likely not factually accurate.  I will notate them. Roundeyesamurai 05:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with the 60 grain powder charge. You get 60 grains of black powder in the cylinder when you deduct the bullet. 50 grain you can do with the round ball. You can use 50 grains for the conical bullet, when you hammer the charging lever down. Something one should not recommend. 45 grain seems to be the maximum normal load, when you want the heavy conical bullet. 50 grain below the round ball, is a misuse of black powder, as hardly all of it is burned when the bullet leaves the barrel. Jochum (talk) 12:39, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations Needed 

message: There has been great progress with the article, but there are still unsourced/inappropriate statements:
1) Walker was an officer in the First U.S. Mounted Rifles at the time, not the Rangers.
2) In order to support this statement, one would need a reference to his battle record.
3) Source this.
4) This isn't applicable, since Walker revolvers were not cartridge loaders.
BTW- AF985, you cannot remove citation tage simply because of appearance.  
Roundeyesamurai 06:56, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good addition, George.  I made a small modification to it- USMR were called "Dragoons" frequently, but Dragoons were in fact another type of unit altogether.  Roundeyesamurai 05:55, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: More Of Above

message: I believe the following language, added May 20, 2008, is redundant and detracts from the overall quality of the article-discussion?
"Through the years the colt walker has found it worth in power and velocity, after the 44 Magnum had been developed the Colt walker has declared not the most powerful magnum. As for the colt walker hobbyist have found the colt walker as a great collector item for black powder hobbyest, and is a high level to shoot and clean."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mcumpston (talk • contribs) 20:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Revision to Power section

message: I believe I have identified the last non-copyvio version; with the copyright mateial added in these edits by Mcumpston. Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 23:40, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: One question: where was the copyrighted material taken from? One problem we run into sometimes is that Wikipedia has an article on a firearm, then someone copies the article verbatim for their website, making it hard to tell who copied who.--LWF (talk) 23:44, 24 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Ok, if that's so, then that content has to be licensed under GFDL in the appropriate place. I saw something similar recently where information from a website was placed on Wikipedia and deleted as a copyvio, and was handled by the owner licensing the content under GFDL on the webpage.--LWF (talk) 00:03, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyvio 

message: There's no citation for this claim, which isn't suprising since it isn't true. The .577 pistol cartridge is rated at 525 on the kynoch charts(factory load: this was used in various pistols), and the bulldog pistol also fired a more powerful round. There are probably others as well, these are some examples I just happened to remember. Ion G Nemes (talk) 18:57, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The 44 Bulldog was definitely a less powerful cartridge, pushing 168 gr at 460 ft/s producing only 80 ft·lbf in factory loads.  This isn't anywhere near the same in revolvers chambered for it.  Also, the claim for the Walker includes "repeating".  Many single shot black powder pistols were more powerful; even a howdah pistol often exceeded the Walker, but with only one or at most two shots from one or two barrels, respectively.  I have seen published claims confirming this statement; I will look at finding a reference.  It won't be hard.  Miguel Escopeta (talk) 22:23, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed the claim "however its muzzle energy is less than the Winchester 44-40, and the .577 pistol cartridges, both used in late 19th century revolvers.", as this is not cited and is therefore simply POV commentary.  The existing cited statement, with its quote, governs what should be here, unless there are cited references stating something else.  Miguel Escopeta (talk) 20:48, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Repeating does not save the most powerful claim of the Walker. The Lancaster double and quadruple handguns in 577 were both repeating and more powerful. So it should be retracted to revolver. But even that may not be true. The point is how big a powder charge the Walker takes in reality. I assume that modern replicas do get the dimensions right. Than we should talk about 50 grain max with the round ball and 45 grain max with the heavier conical bullet, without abusing the loading lever. Perhaps the Gasser 11.3 x 36 R should get that title, as the most powerful black powder revolver in the 19th century. That round was also used in cavalry carbines. Some people talk about references here. Where is the reference, that the Colt Walker takes a 60 grain black powder charge?Jochum (talk) 13:04, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: most powereful before the .357 mag? absolutely not!

message: The patent Arms (Paterson) failed lete in 1842. the Colts Patent Arms Co. was founded after the 1100 Walkers were finished. -- hmaag (talk) 16:58, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Walker/Colt's Company 

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message: I have not found a single source that the Colt Walker was used in World War 2. Where did this come from? And why is it listed in the Wars tab, does anyone have a source to show it was used in the Second World War? JedOfTheJedidiahLands (talk) 18:30, 17 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  World War 2 

message: As far as I know, 60 grains of black powder is rather unrealistic as a charge. It seems that some manage to compress 50 grains with the conical bullet with hammering and bending the charging handle.
40 to 45 grain seems to be a realistic number. Jochum (talk) 10:55, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Powder charge