Talk:Men in nursing

message: I believed this article should be improved more as i think as I read this, it's kinda in a way grammarly inaccuate, including the history secton. And it might as well in a lesser extent be possiably inaccuate in a general scense.-Jana —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.248.236.234 (talk) 23:07, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This [[Article]] should be [[improve]] more. 

message: Prejudice and discrimination against male nurses is not from "female nurses" or from the health care establishement, au contraire. Prejudice is from the general public who believe that male nurses are effeminate or gay. --85.226.85.107 (talk) 20:30, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prejudice and discrimination 

message: As a nurse for 30 years who has worked in both rural and intercity settings, I must say that I found your article unbelievably unbalanced and biased. Any experienced nurse will tell you that men ascend to management positions with lightning speed. It is so common for relatively inexperienced male nurses to be put into supervisory roles over more experienced women; especially if the upper management structure is primarily male. As a long-time ER nurse, I have worked with many male nurses over the years. Many were excellent nurses, however, virtually all shared the common trait that they seemed to feel that "menial" tasks like re-stocking rooms, checking crash carts, cleaning up after themselves were beneath them.198.108.155.2 (talk) 14:53, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Men in Nursing 

message: Was Florence allowed on the battlefield? I think she arrived in Crimea about four months after the battle of Baclava (Charge of the light brigade) but before the seige of sebastopol, my geography is a little sketchy but I think scutari was not in the line of fire.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.7.81.220 (talk) 14:58, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Regarding Florence

message: I rolled this edit back as it is unreferenced, reads like an essay and skirts too closely to not being NPOV.  Feel free to add referenced content that is NPOV. jsfouche ☽☾Talk 00:17, 12 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rollback of edits by 66.30.118.170 

message: When women first entered academic tenure at universities, they had to get used to to being called 'professor' and in some military circles, soldiers must use 'sir' when addressing superior officers of either gender, but these are powerful careers, where professional position takes precedence over gender, in shaping one's professional identity. There is a similar tendency throughout patriarchal society for trends toward masculine association. So there are a lot more women with masculine names like 'Jamie' or Stevie' than there are men with feminine names like 'Jules' or 'Ally'. This dynamic has played out with nursing honorific titles as well.
In the eighties, many nursing organisations shied away from tradition in addressing the growing male membership. Professional organisations issued instructions to remove the titles 'sister' and 'matron'. Feminist nurses embraced the change, because it broke the association with nursing orders of the church, which they felt they had outgrown. Some nurses felt that the change from 'sister' (which classically referred to a senior or graduate position) to 'nurse' (which classically referred to a junior or student) caused a loss of social status which accompanies having a honorific. Prior to this, Australian nurses sometimes softened the blow to male staff feelings, by lengthening the title to "Mister sister'. 
The title 'registered nurse' is readily accepted in western countries. The career structure is changing in some jurisdictions and titles for vocational nurses are less clear and not universal. For example, the term 'orderly' has male association, but the separation between client-contact and non-contact roles has lead some authorities to re-define subordinate nursing roles to 'assistant' , 'carer' and the like.
Just to complicate matters, physicians have an honorific 'doctor' which has a double meaning. The title 'doctor refers to a medical baccalaureate but also to a higher degree beyond Master level.  There are growing tensions with medical colleagues as the number of PhD nursing doctorates increase. so do the threats to legislate against them being able to use a normal title   similar tensions exist with the term 'practitioner'.
I wrote above passage while re-living the moment my nursing school told me I had earned a title, but could never use it. Not suitable for the article -  edit to neutral POV or discard? Tradimus (talk) 06:54, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: honorific title

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message: Why are editors trying to push a stance in this article by saying how something should be done for more “gender-neutral”. This is a wikipedia page not wikihow or a vice article. Tisthefirstletter (talk) 15:53, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
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message: Florence Nightingale's legacy on the role of men in community nursing Mapsax (talk) 02:41, 17 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Florence Nightingale influence