Talk:Matsyendranatha

message: Can we get a source for "he was born out of a fish's womb"? As entertaining as it is...
seems a little far fetched to me.
64.92.27.124 (talk) 00:46, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have read the "Navnath Bhaktisaar" where there are 40 chapters on life of these sages. As per that book, his father is Uparichara Vasu. That book is considered to be authentic book written by Gorakhshanath.
We definitely need to add a version of his origin story here (and put a better version on the Hatha Yoga page). I would vote for the simple one from light on yoga. If memory serves he was born under an inauspicious star and thrown into the ocean by his parents where a fish swallowed him. The fish swam deep under the ocean with baby Matsyendra, passing Shiva giving the secret lessons of Yoga to Parvati where he thought no one could hear. Matsyendranath overheard this discourse, became instantaneously enlightened and sprang out of the fish an enlightened and fully grown man, able to teach yoga to the people. Sort of the Prometheus of yoga, without the torture.Iṣṭa Devata (talk) 15:44, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  there's two issues; one is the existence of a separate page for Rato Machhendranath, which definitely needs to be rolled into this one, and the second is providing sourced appropriate mythological material. By "appropriate", I mean we need to clearly separate what factual information we know about the historical figure from the stories told about him. Ogress smash! 19:28, 4 May 2015 (UTC)

text: SO! Sanskrit scholar and translator of The Radiance Sutras, Lorin Roche has a much more complete version of the story on his website that I think is much more accurate than the weird version from Light on Yoga we're using here and on the Hatha Yoga page. Instead of being a fish, he is a baby eaten by a fish and instead of Shiva going to an island, he goes to the bottom of the ocean (although he quotes a version with a 'moon island' as well). matsyendra.html Here's the link, and note all the old pictures he has of Matsyendra emerging from a fish.Iṣṭa Devatā (talk) 22:43, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: An interesting version comes up here (on the page of an initiated Natha Guru) where he tells a story of Matsyendra's father Minanath being swallowed by a fish and later rescued by another fisherman who cut him free. The question then becomes, is this another fish story, seperate from Matsyendra's or is this another version of the same story? What are the odds of the whole family being eaten by fish at different times? And remember: some scholars say Mina is Matsyendra's father, others say they are the same person (like Lama Govinda below and David Gordon White according to this citation here). Curious the parallels with similar biblical fish-tales. Buddhist Reflections By Lama Anagarika Govinda, Maurice O'Connell, , p.119 claims the Buddhist story of Mina-Pa (here treated as another name of Matsyendra) is 'obviously borrowed' from the biblical Jonah.Iṣṭa Devatā (talk) 06:39, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
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message: Mayamba is Guru Matsyendranath Temple with its reference in Navnath Granth. This is located at Sawargaon, Tal: AShti Dist : Beed, Maharashtra  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ravindrashind (talk • contribs) 07:11, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
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