Talk:Akuma (Street Fighter)

message: anyone know if akuma is in street fighter 4, i've had a look around and cant find any info on it. -anon  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.20.23.23 (talk) 01:11, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  street fighter 4? 

message: "He has been known to occasionally help people in need."
How so? I'm a casual fan, so I don't know as much about SF as many other people, but I can't remember a single event in which he actually helped another person. It's mostly been him beating the everliving hell out of people, or causing misery for others (i.e. wrecking an innocent freighter). TerminusEst13 4:23 PM, August 25th, 2006
Welp, with the deletion of the trivia section, guess this is pretty much moot. TerminusEst13 10:24, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Akuma helping people? 

message: Would it be a fair characterization to say Akuma is a psychopath?--24.217.183.224 19:26, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No. -ZeroTalk 10:11, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

text: He is evil, but not the 'kill everyone' kind of evil, just the 'no problem with killing' kind of evil. He will kill in a fight, but only in a fight, other than that, he isn't so bad. 83.33.244.225 (talk) 13:10, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

text: that he is some sort of saviour or just an anti-villain type of character.who can explain well..?
#Proof that Shin Akuma saving the world-http://www.fightersgeneration.com/characters3/shinakuma-end.jpg202.185.23.30 07:09, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This dude's psycho 

message: Would it be possible to have it so that when you click on the image of Akuma, you can flick through different images, sort of like a slideshow? You've got the SNK style artwork of him but I really like the Capcom artwork too. Doom jester 13:48, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No. -ZeroTalk 04:19, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be me. Thanks for the comment. I'll try to find the EX art if I can. -ZeroTalk 14:12, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

text: What makes you think we aren't? -ZeroTalk 12:08, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "slideshow 

message: First off, it's a name, not a real Japanese word like Akuma is, so I'm not sure it needs to be translated. Secondly, I must object to the current translation of "Strong Demon." 鬼 can refer to numerous different supernatural entities, even ghosts and spirits. Similarly, 豪 is much closer to "great" or "powerful" than "strong." I am going to edit this. If you revert, please explain here first. --feitclub 21:13, May 5, 2005 (UTC)
Whereas I do agree that 豪 is more like great/powerful than "strong", in my experience, I have only seen 鬼 taken as the kanji for "Oni". The S 04:40, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 豪 means brave, heroic, chilvarous 鬼 means ghost, spirit of dead, devil 199.117.69.8 (talk) 22:56, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translating ''Gouki'' 

message: I don't who proposed this but I strongly disagree. Akuma/Gouki is an actual, popular Street Fighter character. Sheng Long isn't a character at all, it's a Chinese reading of "rising dragon [punch]." --feitclub 13:51, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
I agree with you. However merging the "Origins of Akuma" section in Sheng Long would really make sense, since the content in that page duplicates the one in this section. I've tagged the involved section and page, and would like to proceed if there is consensus. --Lorenzo80 12:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that "Origins of Akuma" section should remain in Akuma/Gouki, that's were Akuma came from so why delete it? Instead the Sheng Long article should redirect to Akuma, cause everything is explained there and Sheng isn't a character at all and is not necessary as an aricle. Aeneiden-Rex 13:09, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Even if Sheng Long isn't a real character, I still think it deserves its own article; there is content (the EGM fake reporter, the new joke about street fighter 3, some background about the hoax, etc.) that doesn't really fit in Akuma's article and is large enough to spawn a standalone article. Let's keep the section "Origins of Akuma", but stripped of the duplicate content, and have it link to Sheng Long to know the whole story. What about that? --Lorenzo80 15:45, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging with [[Sheng Long]] 

message: I vaguely remember the EGM joke and, if I recall correctly, the joke was in the form of a letter from a fictional reader.  The reader's made-up name and address (again, if I remember correctly), sounded phoentically similar to "Waste Tokens" and "Fooled Again, HA".  Can anyone confirm this?
--67.174.54.26 22:07, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  EGM Sheng Long April Fools Joke

message: New user added this unformatted part in a separate entry for "cyber akuma", which I have redirected here.  Can anyone with a better grasp of the game copyedit: A rip-off clone of Akuma(Gouki in Japan)who has some machine parts in him. He was made by Apocalypse in Marvel Super Heroes VS. Street Fighter. A Half of his face is metal. One of his eyes looks like a beam shooter. He has a jet pack built in him. He also has metal clogs. He was killed by Sakura Kasugano,Akuma,Ryu or Dan Hibiki.But the fact of who beat and killed him is unknown.
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lots of issues  | leave me a message 00:16, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  cyber akuma 

message: Isn't Akuma/Goukis 'gi' black & not dark blue? 67.5.213.122 03:27, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  dark blue gi? not black? 

message: The article now says:
Sometime later Akuma observed a tournament that was taking place, and when the final round approached he jumped in and fought one of the finalists while the other was in the changing room. Winning the fight and taking his opponent's life, Akuma fled the tournament. (Posted by Daily grind on 09-12-2005)
I never heard any of that, in SFII yes in SFIII yes, but outside of that I never heard any of that. Where is that information from?ShotokanTuning 19:31, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Three times in a row?

message: The Shin Akuma entry in the article seems to imply that Gouki must reach some higher state or plateau to achieve the power that is definitive of "Shin Gouki". I personally believe that this is incorrect, and there's another theory roaming about (noted in Tiamat's comprehensive SF Plot giude) stating that Gouki is in fact Shin Gouki with a merciful attitude. That usually means that Shin Gouki (who is probably one of the strongest fighters in the entire SF universe) holds back punches and voluntarily limits the use of his power (much like Oro with his bounded arm - coincidentally, Oro is also one of the strongest fighters in the SF universe), as depicted in his normal Gouki form.
On a side note, Shin Gouki from CvS2 is not the same Shin Gouki of SF canon, as I understand that the Shin kanji in CvS2 refers to "Divine" (a.k.a. God Gouki), rather than "true/real". Besides, he gains the power in CvS2 from absorbing the Orochi "curse" residing in Rugal...which further creates a complicated crossover plotline.
Note akuma has blue flames in his taunt stance in alpha series so it is possible that in further games he has given ability to use flames with his dragon punch in his shin akuma form.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.27.146.254 (talk) 14:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, Shin Gouki is Gouki.  The "Shin" means "true" (except in CvS2 which has been explained) and is Akuma not holding back, as he does when he is selectable. I would not take the Japanese Wiki to be somehow more authoritative since it is still a Wiki. JuJube (talk) 09:58, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shin Gouki and the nature of his power... 

message: Has anyone seen the ending in Capcom versus SNK 2 where, if you defeat Ult. Rugal with Shin Akuma, it's like the two of them get combined into one super-powerful dude? I can't remember exactly what happens, because I've only done it a couple of times (it's pretty hard to get to see it), but this is for real, I'm certain. I can get a screen grab if you want, although it might take a while. Anyway, I'm wondering if any of you guys know who this Ult. Ruglal combined with Shin Akuma guy is because it's a cool ending. Basically from what I remember he looks a bit like a more powerful version of Shin Akuma but with a bare chest. BTW no, I'm not talking about the ending where Rugal gives his power to Akuma. And as far as I can tell, there's no way of playing as the guy either. Thanks. Doom jester 13:20, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shin Akuma, Ult Rugal Hybrid Guy 

message: The Origin of Akuma section seems more then similar in wording to Arcade History's page  It has slight re-wording, but is almost exactly the same. Coolgamer 02:08, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  possible copyright violation 

message: Hi. 
Does anyone know what Akuma is saying when he wins in the games that he's in? I'm not sure about all the other games, but in Capcom versus SNK 2 and Street Fighter EX, he has a few different things he says when he wins. One of these, in CVSNK2 sounds something like "Shorsh!". It would be really interesting if there was a section of the article covering his lines from the different Street Fighter games, and what they mean in English. 
Cheers. Doom jester 11:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if they are translated, the information doesn't belong here. Please place quotes over at wikiquote. -ZeroTalk 11:54, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translating Akuma's Victory Lines 

message: 豪鬼?
LGMᚂ 23:47, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shin Gouki's name in CVS? 

message: He (Akuma) even successfully pulled off a Shun Goku Satsu on the tournament sponsor Gill, although he left without realizing that Gill had resurrected himself. Whether this event is canon or not is disputed. See the discussion page about Shun Goku Satsu . --81.174.32.62 08:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Akuma using SGS on Gill 

message: If "Ten" means literally sky instead of heaven, what does sora mean? Hackwrench 08:30, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: sky
*Japanese Kanji usually have several meanings, changing depending on context and reading. 天 (ten) can mean Heaven, Sky or even Imperial. 空(sora) can also mean Sky and even Empty or Vacant.84.166.70.60 23:07, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaning literally sky 

message: We're talking about a discipline that came from Japan, and knowing that Akuma DID in fact based his mode of combat purely on the Satsui No Hadou.  Don't you guys think it's better to say "Satsui No Hadou Ryuu Ansatsuken"?  Because if you say "Satsui No Hadou Styled Ansatsuken", then it would have no pure Japanese meaning, but if you guys say "Satsui No Hadou Ryuu Ansatsuken", then it would mean Assasination Techniques from the Intention to Murder.  Remember that in this case, "Ken" should mean "Technique" rather than "Fist".  So Ansatsuken should mean "Assassination Techniques" or Assassination Routines in this case.  Or better yet, Assassination Moveset.  So I would have to say "Satsui No Hadou Ryuu Ansatsuken" or "Murderous Intentional school of Assassination Techniques". — Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 03:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Officially, his fighting style is simply "Ansatsuken".  I think that would be best. Danny Lilithborne 03:32, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But I don't know why in the world would some sources say "Satsui No Hadou styled Ansatsuken"....strange... — Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 01:28, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Satsui No Hadou-Styled, or Satsui No Hadou Ryuu? 

message: "The inspiration for the character of Akuma is usually credited to an April Fools joke which appeared in the April 1992 issue of EGMF, about a nonexistant hidden character named Sheng Long in Street Fighter II."
Would someone please provide an official reference for this?  Otherwise it should be removed.  (Citing similarities is not considered a source as being the inspiration).  CPitt76 17:47, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Inspiration

message: This article is written from an in-universe perrspective. I suggest reading WP:WAF for why this is a prroblem and how to fix it; currently, this article is so poorly attributed to sources that I wouldn't know where to begin.
Additionally, this is AAAAAALL plot summary and no real-world content. That's not kosher. The plot summaries need to be rewritten into shorter overviews of the plot and some sort of content not sourced to direct observation of the games needs to be provided.
This is pretty much what  and  always mean, but someone wanted a talk page explanation, so here you go. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 11:33, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup tags 

message: Some people mentioned the EGM Sheng Long joke above, just thought I'd point out the other one.  
There was an April Fool's joke of Akuma being a playable character in Resident Evil 2.  --ScarletSpiderDave 09:31, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Other EGM April Fools Joke 

message: In the recent 2005 movie "Street Fighter Alpha Generations" Gouki's backstory hints that he had an affair with Goutetsu's daughter, and that she was pregnant, it is later revealed that she died during childbirth and that the child was handed over to the monk by Gouken.  Ryu mentions having run away from a temple when he was little, only to somehow be found by Gouken and trained along with Ken.  And the Monk in the movie mentions someone he promised to take care of for Gouken, running away, he also mentions keeping the promise that the boy he took care of not follow in his father's footsteps, related to the Satsui no Hadou.  Additionally, it is mentioned that the "bad Karma" known as Satsui no Hadou, has manifested itself in Ryu's and Gouki's bloodline, even Gouki hints at his blood relation to Ryu.
The question then, is this, is this movie considered Canon by Capcom?  Or is it some sort of What If story? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.52.197.226 (talk) 09:36, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Such as? JuJube (talk) 16:17, 20 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Normally, I'd say "don't bother, it's not canon". But the Udon comics are now considered canon by Capcom of USA (who seem to be in charge of Street Fighter now). They've said they don't know anything about the movies, though. JuJube (talk) 07:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speculation and Canonical Consideration of Gouki being Ryu's Father? 

message: *I don't really see the importance of these articles.  They describe aspects of the SF storyline that are barely delved into in the games, and only expounded upon in non-canon stories such as the Udon comics.  Gouken and Goutetsu were certainly never playable in any capacity and the articles are largely fancruft.  Relevant data should be merged to the Akuma article (since their turns in the story mostly revolve around him) and the articles redirected. JuJube 01:19, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gouken/Goutetsu 

message: *It seems to be shown as blue in artwork, but black in most of his sprites.  His alternate colors in ST more closely resemble the color shown in the artwork. JuJube 00:21, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Akuma's gi 

message: Change his Japanese name to another Japanese name?
*I'm guessing it had to do with a mispronunciation of "Gouki" sounding like an ethnic insult. JuJube 23:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How does that work, since his original name is Gouki? JuJube 23:43, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's why it's secret. --Mato Rei 00:03, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I really doubt it.  Capcom USA and Capcom Japan are rarely shown to ever be in any real cooperation.  The closest thing was how James Goddard designed Dee Jay. JuJube 00:17, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You know Akuma is a Japanese word, right? So whatever Capcom USA had done with Akuma, there is no way the name came out from them. It must be decided by some Japanese staff. --Mato Rei 00:36, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I'm aware.  It's not like no one at Capcom USA knows Japanese.  Also, Akuma was not an uncommon name, either (it was the name of the main bad guy in Karateka, too). JuJube 01:10, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't need to accept it and I have no intention to convince you. You wonder how the name came out and there is an explanation. Whether it's likely or not is up to you. --Mato Rei 02:59, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but your explanation is made up all by yourself. Thanks, but no thanks, that's not true. The "Akuma" name was chosen in the US because American producers thought he looked "evil" and "demonic", "demon-possessed", so he should be named like a demon.--Kim Kusanagi 23:10, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why did the American translators 

message: Why no mention of either Tenma Kuujinkyaku and Hyakki Shuu?  --81.174.19.222 04:16, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added them and the Zenpou Tenshin, too. JuJube 03:02, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gameplay 

message: I've seen the snk style art for akuma credited to a certain artist and im curious to know who did the capcom styles in those games.--Neofcon 21:23, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Who did the "capcom groove" artwork?

message: If you know them list them please  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.216.132.32 (talk) 17:37, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Akuma's Moves 

message: Is it really necessary to change all of the SF2 character's portraits that frequently?
--Veg20xx (talk) 11:15, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portrait swapping? 

message: Was it that necessary to just remove Omega's saber-copy of the Shun Goku Satsu? -- 174.155.253.183 (talk) 16:28, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Omega Zero copied the ''Shun Goku Satsu''? 

message: The Street Fighter Eternal challenge states that Kongou Koku Retsu Zan translates to "Country Destroying Adamantine Slash". The Street Fighter Eternal Challenge is as official as it gets.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.163.126 (talk) 05:32, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kongou Koku Retsu Zan  true meaning. 

message: I've read that Akuma left the guidance of Goutetsu's guidance to train in the isles of Samoa. I am interested in knowing where this information is found and what he did in Samoa. MFPen (talk) 22:18, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Akuma training in Samoa? 

message: In Street Fighter IV and Super Street fighter IV, Akuma fight his rival Ryu in Hawaii.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.104.197.132 (talk) 06:01, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Streetfighter IV and Super Street fighter IV (Hawaii)

message: Sure, this article could use all sorts of fixing up with rewriting and whatnot, but is there anything else that needs to be discussed in regards to sources or content's relevency? Sergecross73 msg me  13:35, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really, other than the obvious rewriting. The little paragraph at the end about Oni contains content that doesn't match the sources cited for it. TheStickMan[✆Talk] 12:28, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll leave that sort of stuff up to you guys then, as I don't really have much background knowledge on Akuma personally, other than knowing he's a SF character. All I had to offer was knowledge on Wikipedia and reliable sources. (Might reword some stuff in the future though.) Sergecross73 msg me  14:13, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Anything else?

message: Sorry my english, is not good at all xD, but the name translation you were giving to "Gouki" is not correct, "Go" sometimes is used in Japan as an honorific, so you are right It means "Great" or "Greatness", but Ki doesn't means "Demon", also the kanjis you were using, was for the Chinese translation (remember the kanjis means different things in both Japan and China), so you were saying "Gou Gui" in Chinese, this means "Bold Ghost" it's maybe Ok, but in Japanese it means "Great Oni", the Oni is a mitical creature of the Japanese culture and also is a name of one Akuma's transformations in the Street Fighter's series, but still the correct translation for the name is "Great Soul" or "Soul of Greatness", I put this here because maybe you're gonna undo my last edit :P Greetings and hugs for everyone over there! (PD: Once again, sorry my english xP)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.141.237.8 (talk) 22:09, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name's translation 

message: Cleaned up the reception section, reducing the total number of citations therein from an insane 80 down to 35. Many cites were from excessive repetition of several sources, some for the most trivial of reasons. There's only so many "best Street Fighter character" rankings needed. sixtynine • speak up • 23:52, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Reception

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