Talk:Death Note/Archive 1

message: Shouldn't it be called a "death notepad"? Seems like a mistranslation to me.
--132.68.41.57 10:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a translation, it's the name of the manga given by the author (it's written in English originally). It might not be completely correct English, but I don't think we're going to change the name either way. --Mythril 12:53, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note? 

message: I don't mind this information, since it doesn't spoil the story as much as the info about who dies and whatnot. But does anyone have a source for this information? Or the number of the chapter where this is revealed? --Mythril 21:48, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you mean Rem? It was sort of a spoiler that Rem is a girl, but Mello is, first off, a guy, and second of all, they don't really make his gender a secret. --Eternal Trance 03:22, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I suppose speedway bikers have an effeminate image using your reasoning. ^_^ Coder Keitaro 10:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mello is female 

message: I still think this is a stub. There isn't anything but two paragraphs and the rules. Hm, perhaps a picture could fix that ;)? Philip Nilsson 09:08, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It needs some cleaning up. I think I'll do it when I have a bit more time on my hands, these days I've been swamped. Shingen 21:27, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there's too much plot info... I think someone should cut down plot detail to a minimum. And it's hardly necessary to show the Shinigami rules in detail either, is it? I was thinking about removing that and do what I mentioned, but I thought I'd suggest it here first...--Mythril 10:23, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since noone's protested, I'll cut away lots of plot info from this article the next time I feel I've got some free time to spare. --Mythril 21:10, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Finally took myself time to do this. Still think it's too much text though... Anyway, if anyone wants to add back spoiler info, I feel that adding it in an own section like I did with plot details may be better. --Mythril 21:31, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: wiki should back down to nobody. We have spoiler warnings, so put spoilers. - Malomeat 11:50, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stub 

message: http://www.apparentlyappalled.com
* And this has WHAT to do with Death Note? Shingen 21:27, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  There is a website I have you can look up at 

message: I was curious, does anyone think that Shidou (one of the Shinigami) might actually be an over-literal
translation of the name Cid? Seeing as there's English names throughout the series. -Pandaman87 21:34, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Possible, but I don't know how to confirm this. --Mythril 20:12, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names 

message: Is it just me or L kind of looks like Howard Hughes in his paranoid phase, sans beard and germ phobia.  You know like Mr. Burns in that Simpsons episode where Burns starts a casino.  His fingernails are long, and he dresses very loosely.  Maybe he is based on somebody else... Anybody here to clarify.
:I found an interview here (and I suppose there're quite a few more places to find it if you don't trust that one/don't like the format) that says a bit about how L was created, though it didn't reveal much about his model. --Eternal Trance 03:27, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  L acts kind of familiar 

message: "The last episode, which was released on May 2006, is heavily criticized by fans because it is very very inappropriate and not up to the standard." 
This is so subjective it reeks of fanboy. Someone please change this.
:Removed it, also removed other unserious changes by the same user. --Mythril 20:39, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "very very inappropriate" 

message: Since there are quite a lot of Death Note rules (http://www.deathgod.org/main.php?x=info/dnterms), should there be a separate article with all the rules or should they be lumped together on this page? StrawHatLuffy 17:24, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was hoping we'd get a separate page going for it. But I figured that if we just kept the basic rules, we could leave it on the main page like seems to have been the case. If someone would like to take the time to do so, then it should be fine. --Trance 23:44, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Rules of the Death Note StrawHatLuffy 15:44, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed and went ahead and somewhat cleaned up the Fake Rules section. >.> Nice job with it, though. --Trance 04:24, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How To Use 

message: I noticed a mention about this in the Unwritten Rules section. I think there should a bit more information on this. When/where was it published? What else was said in it? --Trance 18:54, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The prelude would refer to Death Note pilot chapter that is to be included with "How To Read Volume 13" StrawHatLuffy 12:14, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What Prelude to Death Note? 

message: Anyone knows?
I want to know if Death Note is original creation, or under influence of western suspense novel. 218.111.216.176 14:35, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any western novel similar to Death Note? 

message: Well I remember reading manga 11 and it said that the DEATH NOTE come in diffrent colors if that is true then why do we see only black DEATH NOTE's any explenations for that?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by KiravsL7 (talk • contribs) 23:03, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, we only see two Notes out of thousands and thousands. But this isn't the place; this is for discussing how to improve the article. You want to go to a forum for this kind of thing.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 00:14, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death note colors 

message: I heard from somewhere that there is going to be a sequel to the anime, is this true? And if so, what information has been released on it? 69.67.92.147 (talk) 14:12, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Not a forum. If there was information on a sequel, it would be here. Rau's talk 20:04, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death note sequel 

message: Seinen is the more appropriate term for this kind of Anime. Not only gore or "H" content can make an anime shonen, the complex and the adult theme, in the non-sexual meaning of it, make this anime recommended to the grownup crowd.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.173.143.4 (talk) 15:50, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We base the demographics on the magazine in which the manga is/was published. The only exceptions is when we have a published reliable source that gives the demographic. To do it any other way is engaging in original research. --Farix (Talk) 16:18, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographic Categorization 

message: probably not a big deal, but the adult swim online stream updates with a new episode on Friday night not Saturday, a day before the television premiere.  209.6.168.94 (talk) 04:44, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  minor mistake in article 

message: I have seen the following (paraphrased) arguments for why the List of Death Note characters should be merged into the main article: 1.)"characters are an aspect normally best covered in the main article" - a silly assertion to make as the main characters are already covered, with a link to the List article for the rest of the characters; moreover, many of these are characters that appear in more than one incarnation of the series, and the list of them is fairly short and concise. A list of all the remotely important characters in the series, though, would be far too long to just cram into the main article without either making the main article longer than guidelines encourage (and those guidelines are there for a reason!), or losing valuable information, or even both.
2.) The series is "too short" to merit it. I fail to see how 108 chapters/12 volumes of manga + 37 episodes of anime + multiple films is really all that "short"; in fact, 12 volumes is pretty darn long for a manga. Moreover, having read the whole manga by now, they have many new characters introduced at a fairly fast pace... many of whom, despite not being "main" characters, actually play a pretty big role in the series or plot (Raye Penbar, for instance). Some of these are even gone into detail on in the How to Read guide, including notes on their roles and development, especially when it comes to their role in the plot. This is far too much sourceable, informative, even notable content to neglect entirely, that nonetheless does not warrant dozens upon dozens of separate articles, but would also make the page absurdly long if included in the main article (remember, page size and article length are ALWAYS a concern here); having ONE character list with all of the key minor characters and relevant details on their development and role in the plot is a good idea, since it keeps it reined in without overloading the main page too much. 
Now, the Shinigami article is probably supurfluous; not that I've looked at it yet, but all of the shinigami in the series are characters, and are fairly few in number regarding the important ones, and can thus be at least probably be included on the character list. 
I also won't argue that the character list can't possibly need cleaning up, since I haven't read through all of it in detail yet (though the bottom of the page actually looks pretty decent, covering the key roles of the characters and a tiny bit about their development, all in very brief and fairly neutral words, which ostensibly is good form on Wiki, establishing contextual notability and citation of non-Wikipedia info sources to boot). I'm just saying - considering that the series is long, and does have a large, LARGE number of recurring characters or minor characters that play a big role in the series, much of whom have citable information on them from the How To Read book, I find it somewhat astounding that there are a people that honestly think the information on key minor characters should just be dumped back into the main article or erased, as opposed to simply tidying up the List article a little. You guys have very little concept of just how enormous this article would become in length, I think, nor how surprisingly important a large number of these characters are to the plot development, to think that such a thing would be a better idea than just simply cleaning up the List of characters article. Hell, if you want, I'll do a little of that a little in the coming weeks myself; I have a copy of How To Read, so it shouldn't be all that hard. 70.118.80.144 (talk) 05:16, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You'll note that it was one person arguing in favor of the merge, and everyone else disagreeing or proposing the Characters list/Shinigami list merge. I think we have clear consensus by this point, and can get on with things. Doceirias (talk) 05:25, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The aforementioned pages have been tagged, see this and this. Doc, do you have time to perform the standard merges? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 05:19, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a bit later than I thought, and it seems Doceirias missed my comment. Any objections in integrating Shinigami (Death Note) to List of Death Note characters? Consensus appears to be merge, and if none want to do it themselves I'll do it. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 04:02, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have none, though I think some of the stuff at the beginning of the shinigami article could go in the main Death Note article. I don't have the time to do it myself though. --Eruhildo (talk) 22:10, 1 April 2008 (UTC)

text: How much more time do you need? Because the majority want the shinigami page gone. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 02:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Want is a strong word; I have no real opinion either way. The only reason to have two separate articles is length, and if combining the two would be too long once Whisper finishes adding all the real world info, there's no reason to merge. Why not put the issue aside till he's done working? We can decide if the length justifies it then. Doceirias (talk) 03:42, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I too am willing to give Whisper the benefit of time. He's done a good job, if somewhat awkward in some places. I say let him finish. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 03:50, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is WP:SIZE a concern here? Just asking. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:53, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Where merging is concerned, only a little. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 03:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  There's also Wikipedia:SPINOUT#Splitting_an_article which describes some splitting and merging guidelines. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:56, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

text:  Also, if when more sourced content is added to the Shinigami, main, and/or character pages, the nature of the issue will change and it will help to poll again with the new details to see how the opinion shifted. - I had already added information about Obata's choices about how he created the Shinigami (plus character reception, etc. for individual shinigami) so it may help to read the page again. WhisperToMe (talk) 07:48, 2 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I've added some more details - If you want, Sesshomaru, you can start a discussion re-evaluating what to do with the Shinigami section. WhisperToMe (talk) 08:17, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Article too long already for a merge

message: I have seen that someone has taken it upon themself to create character pages for Light Yagami, L, and Misa Amane. I personally question the notability of the three characters, but there is also a matter that there are not respective pages for Mello, Near, and Mikami Teru. I suggest re-merging the three character pages into the List of Death Note Character page, or if you would like, create character pages for Mello, Near, and Mikami Teru. After all, they all count as "main characters", correct?
Please offer your opinions on this. Love, IceUnshattered (talk) 18:03, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Whether Mello, Near, and Mikami are created is up to other editors - whether splitting them would be better for the structure of the article. As said at Summary style approach spinout articles are okay - It's just a matter of deciding which ones are better. WhisperToMe (talk) 18:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Strongly agreed. They do not meet WP:FICT and should not have been created. AnmaFinotera (talk) 18:24, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So rather than clean up this list, you make WP:FICT failing articles? How is that helpful? Argue all you want. They are not notable and should not have been created period. Adding in every last thing from that single source doesn't make them notable. You created them because you wanted to, and are using the spinout as an excuse to do so rather than clean up the list and find more appropriate solutions than just ignoring FICT because you like this particular series. AnmaFinotera (talk) 18:43, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Hmm - I have no particular opinion about the matter at the moment - Maybe we can judge how substantial the content for Mello, Near, and Mikami is compared to the rest of the article. If there are third-party reviews from reliable and/or well-known published sources that describe reactions to Near, Mello, and Mikami that could help too. IMO it is easier to get reception stuff about the film as I am demonstrating by the additions of reception to portrayls of Light, L, Ryuk, and Shiori in the film. I guess there are not as many manga reviews posted in newspapers, but perhaps there is something that can bulk the content of Near, Mello, and/or Mikami to warrant creation of a separate article. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character Pages? 

message: Is there a particular reason this article refers to Ohba-san as "he," when, in fact, she has been repeatedly referanced as being female? (Volume 13, or example) Din's Fire 997 (talk) 07:21, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I own a copy of How to Read 13, just re-read all of the interviews, and did not see any reference to anyone's sex except for Obata's (Ohba refers to Obata as male on page 181 [as well as other times] - "His art exceeded all my expectations"). When it was fan-translated, there were references to Ohba's sex for some reason (but they don't appear in the official English release). But I noticed the same thing with her personal icon thing (the woman with the apple). -HeavenlyEire (talk) 21:00, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Hmm, I'd have to look at her personal icon again. AFAIK we put greater currency in official translations than in fan translation works and so we should generally use the English HTR as a source. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:15, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  While Ohba's identity has remained a secret, the most common theories on his true identity are all male; it seems reasonable to default to that gender barring verifiable evidence to the contrary. Doceirias (talk) 23:12, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I was using the English HTR as my source. I'll have to re-read it again...but I didn't catch any gender references aside from the icon. Doceirias: I've actually found no "common" theories - I have actually seen a lot of dissenting opinions (though it does seem many just assume Ohba to be male). I scoured the web trying to find some reliable info and came up empty handed. -HeavenlyEire (talk) 08:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So, how should we refer to a person of unknown gender? Do we completely avoid pronouns? WhisperToMe (talk) 16:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Japanese Wikipedia has a massive section on the most common theory. But Gamou Hiroshi is unknown in English, so I'm not surprised you couldn't find it in English. "He" is standard when referring to someone of unknown gender; simply note that Ohba's gender has not been revealed. Trying to avoid the pronoun just makes things unreadable. Doceirias (talk) 19:20, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. -HeavenlyEire (talk) 20:18, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm cool with that. :) WhisperToMe (talk) 20:23, 8 April 2008 (UTC)

text: While I realize it's probably a pseudonym, it's worth pointing out that the name "Tsugumi" is in hiragana. In Japanese, most names are kanji, but some women's names are hiragana (or that spelling may be chosen). Hiragana would not be used for a man's name. Thus, regardless of what the "theories" behind the authorship are (none of which are official enough that they should influence a Wikipedia article -- they would be considered "original research"), clearly the author and publisher of DN present the author as a woman. So, "she" should be used in the article until there is conclusive evidence to the contrary. (I just said this over on the page for Ohba as well.) 24.223.151.194 (talk) 02:05, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Besides the hiragana, where/how else would the author be presented as a woman? I don't think the hiragana is sufficient to assume that a woman is Ohba. WhisperToMe (talk) 01:06, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Pseudonyms frequently use hiragana for males or females. Take Yuuki Masami just off the top of my head. The author and publisher of Death Note have presented the author without any references to gender whatsoever. Doceirias (talk) 04:29, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Tsugumi Takakura, Tsugumi Sendo, and Tsugumi Higasayama are female. Not sure about any Japanese articles. But so far, all those who turn up are female. Of course, it could be a male using a female name...Or it could be one of those names that females usually have, though it could work as a male name, too.WhiteArcticWolf (talk) 01:00, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ohba 

message: I noticed with the recent additions to this front page that the article is becoming extreamly long. So would it be a good idea to split the stuff like the video games and the bottem information into a page called List of Death Note media? RedEyesMetal (talk) 19:06, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's 58kb now, and it feels like all the parts are an appropriate level of detail. WP:SIZE suggests we're still doing fine; if we went over 60kb, we might consider splitting that off, but for the moment I think it isn't necessary. Especially since the article is unlike to be expanded much further (since the franchise is largely complete.) Doceirias (talk) 23:23, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think the page is fine, for now. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 01:34, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  For now I would keep it in the article - If I found more notable reviews that looked at the manga, anime, and/or novel, then the article could grow some more. WhisperToMe (talk) 03:58, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split article to Death Note media? 

message: It seems that the plot section should summerize the full story, from begining the end, not just the first few episodes. FYI, Wikipedia:Spoiler.→041744 02:56, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nonsense. It should summarize what needs to be summarized for the article in question. The spoiler guideline is not intended to require spoilers; it merely suggests that the are inevitable and should never be removed when their presence is appropriate. Doceirias (talk) 19:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot Summary 

message: I think a lot could be added to the "controversy" section of the death note page. There have bee nmany stories of people using their own Death Notes and getting i ntrouble for it, including one involving me and 18 other kids in my school. Ace-katana (talk) 20:40, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: While I'm sure it feels different when you are personally involved, most of these incidents only rate local news coverage, and aren't really significant enough to be covered here. Something that hits national or international news is clearly notable; but given the sheer number of cases like that, there is little point in covering each of them. Doceirias (talk) 21:10, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  add to controversy section 

message: Mabye the editors here at Death Note should create a wikia for the series, like Naruto  and several other manga series already did. It could be used to store in-universe information not used here (minor character can even get articles), making it an alternative source for Death Note fans, since Wikipedia has rules about how much in-universe info can be in a page. Artist Formerly Known As Whocares (talk) 14:46, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can see the use of a Wikia for series such as Naruto that have extensively long story lines (about 40 manga volumes, 300 anime episodes and no end in sight). However, it doesn't seem that Death Note has that kind of sheer in-universe information so I think making a separate Wikia might be superfluous and therefore a waste of time/resources that could be better spent working on other projects. Deepraine (talk) 23:10, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikia is used for other info that Wikipedia cannot hold. Death Note is a roughly ten volume series therefore we shall not make a Wikia. – 「ＪＵＭＰＧＵＲＵ」@Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 01:33, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, but there are also the films, anime and manga differences, the novel, and the L movie! Plus you have the various death note rules and everything within Death Note: How to Read 13. Jump Guru, you might want to read these: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rules of the Death Note and Talk:Death Note#Written Rules WhisperToMe (talk) 08:41, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's true..... i was only thinking about the volumes, and it has an anime of over probobly 100 episodes in Japan. I've been corrected, maybe we should make a Wikia. – 「ＪＵＭＰＧＵＲＵ」@Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia 15:04, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The anime has 37 episodes and a two hour special - Still, I'm in support of a Wikia because of the fact that so much Death Note content (including video games with DN, plus the video games that star DN characters). WhisperToMe (talk) 17:13, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I agree with WhisperToMe. But still, I repeat, do we have enough people that are willing to devote time into a separate Wikia? (P.S., Jumpguru, check your spelling on "probably" ^^). IceUnshattered (talk) 00:33, 8 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Why is it that so many people seem to be unaware of the Wikia interwiki syntax (wikia:wikiname:pagename), e.g. Wikia:DeathNote:Light Yagami? —Dinoguy1000 18:28, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't know, maybe they've never needed to use it. I didn't know, but I've never needed to either. A lot of people don't even know you can link to our other Wikipedias like this ( this ). --Eruhildo (talk) 21:38, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Eh -headdesk- Sorry, I've never needed to link to another Wikia before, so I didn't realize I could use that. IceUnshattered (talk) 22:50, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikia 

message: I think that we should the plot summary to the top , so it'll be right after the contents table and above Development and Creation
--GuardianFayt (talk) 12:15, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The order is determined by how to get the reader to best understand the subject. However I do think the summary should be redone, as it is exactly the same as the first half of this fan-site article.→041744 18:52, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I would argue the plot should above development for that reason. Are we sure that fansite didn't just copy the Wikipedia article? It has happened before. ANN copied the plot summary I wrote for Baccano! Doceirias (talk) 20:06, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can not know, however I would say it copied from Wikipedia... being so reilable (he, he..). I wasn't impling the plot shold stay womewhere over another just siteing the reason for order. I would agree with it being put above devolopment.→041744 20:50, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I also wonder if Staff is important enough to be over plot. I think it should be in an additional information column or something like that. Sort of like trivia to me.Megnetic (talk) 02:47, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd argue in favor of eliminating that entirely. The work assistants do is invaluable, but not worth mentioning them here, especially in a generic list. Doceirias (talk) 02:50, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't see how else I can mention them - The source does not state exactly what each of the staff members did exactly. They are invaluable (as you said) - What kinds of sources could explain what they do? Also some of them may become manga artists in their own right (so when they do, a wikilink could be established) WhisperToMe (talk) 03:25, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving Plot Summary 

message: The Death Note article states that "Death Notes all have rules written on the Note's first page."  This is not true.  Shinigami already know the rules, so to have them written down is unneeded.  Ryuk wrote them down on one notebook so that the human who found it would know what it did, and since Light is the one who found Ryuk's notebook, only Light's Death Note had rules in it.  He later copied the rules down for Mikami's use - but most Death Notes will not have rules written on them.
Luscinae (talk) 03:02, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well if that's the case why don't You edit it?Megnetic (talk) 02:49, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because I couldn't find the edit link, deary. I recall the page previously saying something along the lines of only more credible users being able to edit it at the time, so I signed up specifically to point it out. Luscinae (talk) 23:13, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

text: I went ahead and changed it because that's how I remember it as well.  But feel free to add the source in the anime or manga if I don't find it.  And I'm also thinking it wasn't written on the first page at all, but on the front and back inside covers, but I don't really recall right now. --Wirbelwindヴィルヴェルヴィント (talk) 03:26, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The rules were written on the inside front cover. Later, when Light had Ryuk write the two fake rules, Ryuk chose to write them on the inside back cover for some reason. I don't have a specific source for this, but it's been shown often enough in the anime that I can recall pretty easily from memory. In any case, I've more or less completely rewritten that section to correct information and cover the major points. —Dinoguy1000 19:55, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death Note Rules 

message: Has anyone made a reference to the fact this:
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sounds like this:
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Its not the exact same of course but I was wondering if maybe there has been mention of the similarities of the openings in interviews with the creators of Death Note or mentioned by the press at some point.68.226.119.187 (talk) 08:37, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  L's Theme Sounds Like Tubular Bells 

message: I'm a recent fan of the series and noticed something peculiar at the back of my mind; the characters of the series (namely light and L) seem to be using a desktop Operating system reminiscent to that of a GNU/Linux desktop environment. This is viewable most notably when Light accesses his fathers computer and additionally (in an episode from 18-22, I can't remember which sorry) in the background of a conversation between L and other characters you can see an effect on the desktop similar (I say similar as a key word here) to an effect plug-in available in Compiz-fusion referred to as "water effect" (the effect in this plug-in is called "rain" and as far as I know these effects are only likely to be seen on a GNU/Linux platform). If no one else has seen this either not enough GNU/Linux users are watching Death Note closely enough or simply I'm mistaken and it's only a similarity. If someone can research into this and maybe get a reputable source indicating this usage I think it'd be something important to note about this animation series or at least it's characters in particular. Thanks for any responses in advance.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nullhility (talk • contribs) 13:49, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see this as being notable enough to merit mention, even with a reliable source. If there was some sort of deal brokered to feature a GNU/Linux lookalike in the series, or some sort of controversy surrounding its use/appearance, then we might have something, but the use of the system itself is just a nonnotable bit of cruft. —Dinoguy1000 17:42, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I usually saw Mac and Windows, but that is not notable. WhisperToMe (talk) 23:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia: Death note characters use GNU/Linux? 

message: Quote:
A third movie premiered in February 2008, titled L: Change the WorLd. It is a spin-off focusing on L. Focuses on the last 23 days of L's life-span to solve the case that threaten the world.
The last sentence should be combined with its predecessor, and read something more like:
It is a spin-off focusing on L, centering on the last 23 days of his life, spent solving a case that threatens the world.
(or something like that) -- the existing last sentence has several minor grammar errors and is a bit stilted.
I'd fix it myself but it's semi-locked.
:I rewrote the last statement to flow better, and did some other cleanup on that section, as well as tagging it for expansion. —Dinoguy1000 17:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia: Poor grammar in one para 

message: I was reading through the article and read the section on L the Prologue to DEATH NOTE Rasen no Wana, and saw the Romaji. It said Eru za Purorōgu tu Desu Nōto -Rasen no Wana, and although this is a minor error, the character tu as mentioned in the article, does not exist in Japanese. The closest character would have to be Tsu. Being a noobie on Wikipedia, I can't edit this, so I'm asking somebody else to. Moocowsrule (talk) 20:24, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No offense Moocowsrule, but that proved absolutely nothing...anyway, the sound "tu" is conveyed in Japanese by way of トゥ.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 06:47, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

text: No, its correct.  Its the same as the sound "ti" from ティ.  The second character is a small character and so modifies the sound.  Also note that this is in katakana, which is used for foreign languages; you'll find a few other modified characters with sounds that aren't in hiragana. --nyoro~! Highwind888 (talk) 06:43, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

text: As two people have already explained, this word is written トゥ, which is romanized correctly as tu. It is not written as ツ and should not be romanized as such. Doceirias (talk) 09:23, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  L the Prologue to DEATH NOTE -螺旋の罠 (L the Prologue to DEATH NOTE Rasen no Wana) 

message: I'm probably not the first person to mention this, but because Mellow and Near were possible succesors to L, L = M or N. LMN. Once again, this part of the alphabet being linked to the character's names has probably already been realized, and possibly confirmed. I'm not sure what I'm putting it here for, but somebody might be able to use it to improve the article (not me, since I'm more of discussion and fix minor errors kind of person).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.218.12.31 (talk) 21:48, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless you can provide a reliable source, this is only original research and doesn't merit mention in the article. As it is, even *with* a source, I don't think it's notable enough to merit mention, since it doesn't seem to be a significant aspect of the series. —Dinoguy1000 17:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alphabet 

message: There's all this talk about Death Note: How to read 13, but what is it actually? Is it a manga, an anime, an interview of some sort? 84.87.168.39 (talk) 16:23, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Death Note: How to read 13 is a one-volume manga that features such things as character profiles and side comics (I think, I haven't actually read it myself). It's named as such because the Death Note manga originally ran for twelve volumes, and How to read 13 was written after the series ended (AFAIK). —Dinoguy1000 17:11, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

text: It's just a fan book. Interviews, data, character profiles, timelines, that sort of thing. Doceirias (talk) 19:06, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to read 13 

message: What happened to the section that had the DVD series release dates in North America?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dumaka (talk • contribs) 01:45, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was removed. DVD releases are covered in the episode list, not the main article. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 01:51, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  DVD realease dates 

message: The section is WAY too clunky and filled with irrelevant junk. I've streamlined it to feature the most relevant material and placed it below the plot summary/deathnote rules section, so that the later two sections don't get buried by the development section--BakerBaker (talk) 17:44, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You aren't streamlining. Your edit is totally inappropriate, removing massive amounts of surced content without any discussion. As all of that content is sourced, if you want to "streamline" then discuss it first and do you edits a bit at a time rather than doing a huge chunk at once. Let's actually DISCUSS what parts you feel are excessive so there is consensus for removal. I do agree, there is a lot of unnecessary stuff in there, but discussion on what that is is neeeded. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 17:51, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Streamlining the development section 

message: Hi, this is my first contribution to the Wiki, but I noticed that in the main Death Note article, little mention is made of Gelus in the Shinigami section. I think it is important to include Gelus in the list as Misa Amane originally gains her Death Note when Gelus dies in order to save Misa from a stalker.
Blood Red Rain (talk) 14:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Firstly, welcome to Wikipedia! Anyways, he is mentioned in passing once, that's it. So I don't believe he is notable enough to warrant mention. The list in this article is only for main characters, which he is not. Artichoker[talk] 14:58, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shinigami Death Note Characters. 

message: Is also 6.66 minutes.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hakageryu (talk • contribs) 07:47, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  6 minutes and 40 seconds 

message: If someone could please answer this question it would be most appreciated: why is shinigami so often in italic text throughout this page? ♥Tory~♥Amulet♥Heart♥ 20:14, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because it is a Japanese word. Just like prima facie is in italics because it is Latin. Artichoker[talk] 20:19, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh I see. But then shouldn't it be in italic text only once? ♥Tory~♥Amulet♥Heart♥ 20:22, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be in italics in every instance. Just like names of video games and books are always in italics whenever mentioned. Artichoker[talk] 20:24, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Okay I understand that. So shinigami should be in italic text wherever it appears? Well the last time I checked the Full Moon o Sagashite page the word shinigami wasn't always in italic text. Should it be there, also? ♥Tory~♥Amulet♥Heart♥ 20:27, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the instances of shinigami on Full Moon o Sagashite should be italicized, as any other article with that word. Cheers, Artichoker[talk] 20:30, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Thank you, I very much appreciate you replying and explaining that to me. ♥Tory~♥Amulet♥Heart♥ 20:31, 14 July 2008 (UTC)

text: For the general guideline behind it all, foreign words should always be in italics within text (not headers) unless its also commonly used in English, like queso, taco, lasagna, etc (hungry LOL). -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 22:06, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Foreign words shouldn't be italicized in headers? Could tell me where it says that in the MOS? 'Cause I checked WP:HEAD and WP:ITALIC and neither of them say that. If it's true, I'm going to have to make a bunch of edits to a particular article. --Eruhildo (talk) 02:47, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It does not say that in the MOS, and she is wrong in stating that there is a general guideline for it. I can tell you that is it perfectly fine to use them in headers. See Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Foreign Terms and Headings. Just keep on doing what you have been doing. Cheers, Artichoker[talk] 02:50, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shinigami 

message: I added a reference to Carl Kimlinger's strikingly negative review of Death Note that just appeared in the current issue of Protoculture Addicts. Not all reviews of Death Note are positive, and such reviews need to be cited to maintain a balance among reviewers. I assume that no one is going to argue that PA is anything except a major publication covering manga and anime. Timothy Perper (talk) 13:14, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course not, considering that it's published by Protoculture Inc., the parent company of Anime News Network, which is more-or-less the de facto WP:RS for the animanga project. —Dinoguy1000 17:43, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree with you on both counts -- PA is an excellent source and so is ANN. Timothy Perper (talk) 18:09, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Reference to Review in ''[[Protoculture Addicts]]'' 

message: Enthusiastic fans have been adding (for some time, I'm sure) a variety of "it means" and "Ohba said" style comments. All are interesting and most are unreferenced and unsourced. So they're original research. Along with a general clean-up and rewrite, this article needs sources, not more enthusiastic, interesting but undocumented fan gossip. Sorry, folks, that's how Wikipedia is -- no original research Timothy Perper (talk) 20:48, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, they sure do. Timothy Perper (talk) 22:57, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Original Research Tag 

message: I'm going to add a new introduction with lots of references and a few "citation needed" tags. It's a lot better than before. I don't really like the way all the dates clutter up the text, so I may put the dates into the footnotes, but other people should add references if they have them. Timothy Perper (talk) 22:57, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There are other problems with this article, including the in-universe descriptions of activities and motivations for Light, L, and (above all) Misa. I'm going to start working my way through the article, changing stuff and adding references. Timothy Perper (talk) 23:31, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I added citations for the manga serialization and the novel by Nisio. Hope this is what you were looking for, Tim. Matt Thorn (talk) 06:20, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  It sure was. Many many thanks. While we're at it, Matt, can I ask you if you can find some Japanese references to the three Death Note films? I added references in English, from ANN, which ought to do it. The sentence is in the middle of the introduction somewhere -- it's easy to find. Timothy Perper (talk) 06:34, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I just removed the "rewrite introduction" tag because the intro is OK now. Timothy Perper (talk) 07:41, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding new referenced introduction