Talk:Gridiron football

message: *Discussion moved to Talk:American football in order to keep discussions together. - BillCJ 04:45, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with North American Football Articles? #2 (2007)

message: I added in a link to a picture of the old stadium that had been broken.  Its just a drawing (I'm not sure what the original was), but it shows the field pattern better than any actual photos I could find.  Dangermouse29 18:10, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: At present, I don't have a reference, but I've seen this in several places where the history of American football is discussed.  Briefly, in the early days of the forward pass, the passer had to be more than 5 yards laterally away from the spot where the ball was snapped.  Lines parallel to the sidelines were added to enforce this rule.  Since the yardlines were already present, the field took on the appearance of a "gridiron".  The forward passing rules were soon changed and the lines removed, but the name stuck.  Or at least that's how the story goes. 65.24.249.74 (talk) 01:12, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: umm

message: Please see Wikipedia:Manual of Style for information on the style of an article. This article is lacking sections and headings, and has an over use of boldface type. --Pinkkeith (talk) 21:47, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The current name bugs me because, while “gridiron” is the name of the sport in Oceania (not the UK?) it’s almost never referred to as “gridiron football.” The name gridiron (sport) is also ambiguous, but something should change. —Wiki Wikardo 16:49, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean-up 

message: Should the "old-style" image, showing more obviously the origin of the term, be moved up to the top? M0ffx (talk) 15:57, 12 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move images? 

message: What is the short dimension of the field (in the US, Canada)?
Capek (talk) 17:45, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing info 

message: I think this is how this article should be called. Gridiron is mostly an informal term that has become widely accepted and used by the media in countries that are fairly aware of the sport, but is not used by any governing body to designate the game, and is not well known outside of North America and maybe the UK.
The official rules published by Football Canada are officially entitled "Canadian Rule book For Amateur Tackle Football". The Federation of the Philippines calls itself "American And Tackle Football Federation". So tackle football seems to be the official term recognized by governing bodies when they want a name inclusive of rule codes that are not strictly the American version.
I would use something like : "Tackle football, often referred to as gridiron football, is a sport..." - — Preceding unsigned comment added by ‎2a01:e35:2e96:ba90:4de7:d446:2b29:486a (talk) 
: I disagree. Gridiron football refers to the North American variety, which is what this article is about. Tackle football is a broader term. Barryjjoyce (talk) 21:17, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename to Tackle football?

message: Merging to American football has been discussed and rejected on several occasions. This article, whatever its title, is intended to be an overview of all the North American football codes as a whole, which includes Canadian football, and as such should not be merged or deleted. - BilCat (talk) 21:51, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether the article should exist is a separate issue from its title. Name changes have been proposed, but didn't gain any traction. - BilCat (talk) 18:06, 23 January 2016 (UTC)

text: Canadian football is not a variation of American football.  They are two seperate, but similar sports which both fall under the umbrella of "Gridiron football".  I don't understand the objections which have been raised.  ParkH.Davis (talk) 00:04, 25 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge/deletion (2016) 

message: Substituted at 16:45, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Just a note but there's a proposed outline for this topic at Wikipedia:WikiProject Outlines/Drafts/Outline of gridiron football. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 00:57, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Draft outline 

message: *Oppose North American football makes no sense.--Rockchalk717  16:37, 12 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Arbitrary heading

message: Yes, the forward pass is a big difference between American football and rugby, but not every play is a pass play. There's one thing that happens on literally every play that wouldn't be permitted in rugby: blocking.--98.111.164.239 (talk) 07:38, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  More should be made of blocking 

message: I was reading that “gridiron” was an early slang term for the US flag, due to the bars or stripes on it. If so, perhaps the identification with the US and flag had something to do with nicknaming to sport. Might be a point of interest to investigate... Ptilinopus (talk) 03:32, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of name? 

message: It seems like someone shoehorned the words "system of a down" in the History section. This could be a coincidence, but it looks like some headbanger is making a joke. Bardbarian201 (talk) 05:42, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: IP vandalism. Fixed. BilCat (talk) 06:11, 9 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headbanger making a joke? 

message: This page serves no real purpose except, perhaps, to confuse readers. There already exists the main page, American football, and each level of play from professional to collegiate to high school has an individual page.  Keystone18 (talk) 18:13, 16 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Merger to American football has been discussed at least four times before, and closed as with clear consensus against merging the last two times. I've no desire to repeat those arguments in favor of keeping this article here, but you can read them for yourself. I don't see a note about a previous AFD, so you could do that, but I doubt it would succeed. BilCat (talk) 21:11, 16 August 2023 (UTC)

text: American is just one subtype: —Bagumba (talk) 02:38, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: This page should be deleted