Talk:The Legend of Zelda LCD games

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Legend of Zelda
Triforce of the Gods
The sacred lands of the Triforce have been transformed to the "World of Darkness" which reflect Ganon's ambitions. But Ganon was still not satisfied, and is plotting to make Hairal, the "World of Light", into his own. To make this happen, the daughters of the seven sages must be sacrificed, and the seal broken. And now, through the hand of the priest Aknim, that is about to be realized.
You are the hero who must venture through the worlds of light and dark to defeat Ganon, the king of wickedness who is the root of all malice. There are sure to be plenty of puzzles and monsters awaiting you. The Legend of Zelda is about to start.
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--Paul Richter (talk) 03:00, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past plot synopsis

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Zelda Game & Watch Gallery 4 remake.png

message: I've been on the search for proper references for this game for a while and although I have found some, I have yet to find anything to support the notion that the Dragon (as it is called in the game's manual) is actually Aquamentus. In fact, I also cannot find any evidence that the dragons are sons and a father or that the game even takes place in Hyrule. The plot that we have is very imaginative compared to the exceptionally thin plot given in the manual and if what we have is correct it would certainly be preferable, but at this point I simply cannot find any references for it and so I must conclude that it is a fan creation.
I am going to remove the plot we have listed for this game and I will replace it with the weak plot listed in the manual, but I'm copying the text that I'll remove below so that it can be restored if adequate sources can ever be recovered to bolster it (note: sources such as zeldapedia and zeldawiki do support several elements like the identification of the Dragon as Aqamentus, but they ar not RSes). I've also written to the originator of the information to ask him for sources, but it's an anonymous IP and he hasn't edited since mid-2005 so I am not very hopeful... Anyway, without further ado here is the portion I am removing:
The kingdom of Hyrule is attacked by a monster king called Aquamentus along with his three sons. They shatter the Triforce into four pieces, steal the fragments, and take over the three sacred dungeons. This puts Hyrule into chaos. Bitter fighting breaks out between monster forces, and many Hylian soldiers lose their lives. Link must defeat the monsters and retrieve the Triforce to save Hyrule.
Please help me find sources for this so that we can restore it if it is accurate. -Thibbs (talk) 15:10, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: We would need more than pictorial evidence. Reliable sources would have to make the claim that the dragon is Aquamentus. As editors we're not allowed to speculate since it violates WP:OR. -Thibbs (talk) 01:04, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot for Nelsonic's Zelda

message: Unfortunately, we cannot sustain three images on this article. The article's subject is LCD games from the Zelda series; as such, the images need to represent that and not their own games. Therefore, only one can claim to do that, while the others must show that they're necessary to enhance understanding of the subject. The idea that a cover is necessary for a game is only true if the game has its own article. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 18:23, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There are only three LCD games in the series. Each is radically different from the other two. A single covershot is not adequate to represent them all. Why do you think the article cant' sustain three images? It covers three different games whose only similarity is that they use LCD technology. If there were 20 games in the series requiring 20 different covershots then I'd agree with you, but 3? That easily meets WP:FAIRUSE. -Thibbs (talk) 18:32, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The article cannot sustain three images that all seek to do the same thing. Three is not the limit of how many images an article can have. For example Brain Age: Train Your Brain in Minutes a Day! has only one fair use image and uses two free use images. To the contrary, The Beatles: Rock Band has several images because it justifies them all. If an article has three images, it needs to be able to show that these three images are necessary. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 18:35, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Each of the three images is a covershot and each is justified by the normal justification for all covershots across the WikiProject. A covershot is intended to serve as the primary visual image associated with the work, to help the reader quickly identify the work and to assure the reader that they have reached the article they were looking for. If we have an article about three different works, it stands to reason that 3 different covers should be represented. The do not all seek to do the same thing any more than the images at The Beatles: Rock Band all have the same function of illustrating the topic. -Thibbs (talk) 18:44, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In The Beatles Rock Band, we have: a cover, a screenshot to show the game's mechanics, six free use images, a screenshot to show the parallel between the game's depiction of the Ed Sullivan Show appearance, a screenshot to demonstrate how they achieve the graphics that they did to make them appear similar to The Beatles' soundtracks, and a screenshot to show its development from E3 to now. In this article, it's simply visually demonstrating LCD Zelda games. There's no critical commentary for them, and the fact that they are only notable enough to be grouped together in this article says that they aren't notable enough to need one image per. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 19:06, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Critical commentary is not the reason for covershots. Again, the purpose of a covershot is to provide visual identification and assurance. This is true WP:VG-wide. If we had to come up with additional justifications for every covershot then more than 90% of them would need to be removed. This article is about three very different games so it's silly to use one covershot to represent them all. Again, three covershots for three games made by three different companies easily meets WP:FAIRUSE. There is zero market impact on Nintendo, Nelsonic, or Epoch from a single low-res covershot used educationally. The use of an excessive number of nonfree images is discouraged because collectively they have a stronger market impact against the copyright owner that just a few. Here we have three different images used according to the standard NFUR cover/boxart rationale whose potential impact touches three different copyright holders. There is no argument for aggregated market effect. There is no benefit to removing the images because they are not excessive. It would only weaken the article. -Thibbs (talk) 19:24, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

text: The argument that you have made is not acceptable; very few of the images on Wikipedia for video games can actually cause any impact on the related companies. If your argument was true, Wikipedia would not apply fair use guidelines to video games at all. According to non-free content guideline, cover art MUST be related to critical commentary. The justification for their use in video games is that the subject is notable, therefore there is value in representing the subject at hand. For any further cover art this falls apart because the rationale - representing the subject of the article - is only acceptable for one image in the article. If you think that the three games are notable enough for their own articles, then feel free. Until then, having the majority of images in the article be cover art is not conducive to a quality article. - New Age Retro Hippie (talk) (contributions) 19:41, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not an acceptable justification for an image to be used simply because its subject is notable. That's a misinterpretation of the guidelines. The reason given in NFURs for covershots is almost always to provide identification and assurance that the reader is at the correct article to find critical commentary on the topic. Nothing more and nothing less. Look at the NFUR for the covershot of today's featured article. It states in relevant part "Purpose of use: The image is used to identify a video game, a subject of public interest. The significance of the box art is to help the reader identify the game, assure the reader they have reached the right article containing critical commentary about the game, and illustrate the nature of the game in a way that words alone could not convey." (emphasis added). That's the standard boxart/coverart NFUR language for covershots in all WP:VG articles and that's exactly the purpose for them in this article. Three images is not an excessive number and each one is providing identification and assurance services to readers. If we were to reduce it to one image - your edit reduced it to the image of the Game & Watch game's cover - then we would be seriously undermining the ability of the image to identify the topic and to assure readers that they were at the right article for critical commentary of anything but the Game & Watch game. -Thibbs (talk) 20:03, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: I just finished playing the game. The game does not "restart" when you beat the dragon. You have to beat 8 dragons to collect the eight scattered pieces of the triforce to free a princess(Zelda)who is being kept at the far top left corner of the screen, above the items. Additionally the description implies that there is a single room in between dragons when there is a whole dungeon filled with moblin rooms with several possible paths through each dungeon. Orpheus Rex (talk) 21:22, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure I understand completely. Are you saying that the phrase "labyrinth chambers" is misleading and that instead the game has "dungeon filled with moblin rooms"? The instruction manual on page 5 describes the Goblin enemy as "liv[ing] in each of the chambers of the labyrinth" so I think the article is better as written. Regarding the game restarting, the listed source (IGN) states that "[w]hen you beat the game, you are given a second quest with harder bosses." IGN is listed as reliable at WP:VG/RS and its claims are corroborated by the instruction manual which on page 11 states that "[f]rom the second round starts, enemies move slightly faster and your score is carried over from the previous round." It also mentions subsequent rounds after the second round. I know there are several different versions of the game, though. Perhaps IGN is reviewing a different version that the one you played. Did you play the original Game & Watch version, or the Mini Classic version, or the Game & Watch Gallery 4 version? -Thibbs (talk) 22:34, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccurate description of gameplay for Zelda(G&W) 

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message: How come is there no separate page for the Game & Watch: The Legend of Zelda? One time when I was trying to create the article it automatically redirected me to The Legend of Zelda page, and now the article is now on the page. A long time ago I made loads of fake Zelda draft articles for the series 35th anniversary even to the point where I said if its not real please don't delete this article (which have all been deleted now as of April and May 2021). Since the Game & Watch: Super Mario Bros. has its own article, how come does the Zelda version not have its own. I am sorry for making all of the now deleted fake draft articles. I used to think if there was a separate page, it would be a copy and paste from the Mario version article while also changing a lot of words. I was also going to make fake Metroid ones when I decided not too. That is the thing I need to know. 107.146.244.150 (talk) 06:34, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
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