Talk:Bawls/Archive 1

message: Credit where credit was due, but the credited individual for the sugar free Bawls can step forward.
--Ice 23:57, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: August 2004

message: Change Log:
minor URL fix, addition of change log areas, show of boredom. 10:25, 24 Aug 2004 (CDT)
updated to show changelog from another user, moved changelog to discussion, welcome to take credit. 19:00, 31 Aug 2004 (CDT)
--Ice 13:02, 13 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: September 2004

message: Anyone else think there should be a mention of the mints?  -Hench 21:54, Apr 10, 2005 (UTC)
: I agree. Go for it.  Oxling 03:37, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone needs to mentions Sno-Bawls too - Play 00:52, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: April 2005

message: The first sentence of an article should summarize the most significant attributes of the article's subject.  The original sentence was: "Bawls is an energy drink marketed mainly towards computer gaming enthusiasts and paintballers."  Really, that's peripheral info about how the drink relates to society.  About the drink itself though, the stuff inside the bottle, the most important identifier is the caffeine content.   Which is why I changed the first sentence to its current form.
This is 4th grade english folks.  "Topic sentences," remember?  - User:Xmnemonic  — Preceding undated comment added 21:10, 1 October 2005
: I had applied mild corrections to turn posessive plural to non-posessive plural terms last week, felt that should be mentioned here as well. --Ice 14:11, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: the original first sentence

message: Seriously, it's not a stub.
It looks like this is pretty much everything there is to know about Bawls (I even created a whole new page for the mints). Why is it still marked as a stub? I would change it myself but I'm kinda new so I don't want to piss everyone off. Also, why does it have two different stub markers? - Chriszuma 04:41, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: December 2005

message: It says 'delicious' refering to the taste, which is an opinion. I'm expunging 'delicious' for now, if it is felt necessary can be put back in. 172.160.95.124 05:50, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: POV describing taste

message: Perhaps a note on where this stuff is sold (as in countries) would be helpful (I've never heard of it before) - Sajt 23:49, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried to start that but it got edited out... several times. I'm surprised at the existance of a slurpee flavor now. --71.13.158.12 06:07, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Trying to get Availability into it's own section, been some resistance before, I think tonight it'll happen. --Ice 06:32, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Availability

message: Yay for Wikipedia revisions while consuming bawls! --Ice 06:32, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal note

message: Category shorthand:
*B=Bottles of soda
*C=Convenience Stores (includes listed regional/national store chains)
*D=Dance Halls
*F=Grocery Stores (includes regional/national chains)
*G=Gaming centers/centres
*M=More detail provided
*N=Bawls Mints available
*P=Paintball fields
*R=Retail stores
*S=SnoBawls available
*O=Other suppliers
*?=Data incomplete
*!=Data Argued, provide more detail for this locale below it, parent local tentative until more data is provided.
*1=Dry region, either lack of soda or lack of niche locales (Paintball, gaming centers/centres)
*2=Low, niche locales only, light supply
*3=Medium, niche locales only, good supply
*4=High, most soda providers available, light supply
*5=Bawls filled world, most soda providers available, good supply
I don't mean to mock the person who said this, I think it's a good thing to hope for.
Availability by country
*Brazil: BD?
*Canada: M?
*Holland: BG2?
*United Kingdom: M?
**England: 1?
*United States: M?
**Michigan: SG24?!
**Texas: M?
***Dallas: BSC5?
**Wisconsin: BGM2?
***Madison: M?
****Downtown Madision: BCFG4?
Known regional/national store chains that carry bawls:
*7-11: 5 (SnoBawls in Dallas)
*CompUSA
*Woodmans
Add your locale, rate and keep this list alphabetical by country, then by region, and so on down the line, minimum resolution part of city if there is varience from one area of the city to another. Postal codes and nation > state/provence/etc > city will improve this greatly overall.
Encountered bawls, know it's dry, feel free to add, try to be as tight on the resolution as possible as I do intend to eventaully take this data and create a world map of bawls availability.
Please exclude online retailers in this demographic data. Most cover 1 or more continents and thus would harshly skew results. LAN Parties should also be excluded as they are events, and not suppliers able to provide regular supply.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ice (talk • contribs) 14:11, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is possible that the particular store or franchise orders it, so reports can vary, a system should probobly be developed to figure out if it's franchise or chain that carries it, CompUSA is a good one for 'chain' but like I noted earlier, places may not carry it even though their chain does. --Ice 06:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: March 2006

message: "A 10oz bottle of Bawls contains 67mg of caffeine, which occurs naturally in guarana and is 2.5 times stronger than the caffeine found in coffee, tea, or regular soft drinks. In comparison, an 8oz cup of coffee contains around 100-120mg depending on the method of brewing." I don't quite understand this statement.  Does this mean that the caffeine found in Guarana is stronger then the caffeine found in coffee?  This sounds like something that could use a citation, as I don't see any mention of that on the guarana page. --Judzillah 01:10, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I knew someone would ask sooner or later...:-)  Anyway, this is a claim made by Bawls, but I haven't personally seen any evidence of this.  It's also a sloppy statement, as what they really mean is that the mixture of stimulants they get from guarana is a potent blend of caffeine and other alkaloids (cf caffeine for an explanation of how in nature caffeine is often found with other stimulants).  Presumably, the guarana caffeine blend is particularly stronger,  2.5 times stronger than the mixture from a coffee bean.  Again, I don't know if this is really true.  But it sounds like an interesting thing to research and find out.  --C S (Talk) 01:23, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the quick response!  I added a citation needed tag to the statement, and if I find some time later, I'll try to research this a bit more (although caffeine isn't really my speciality!) --Judzillah 05:36, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Note that the current citation goes to Bawls' marketing pages. That is a horrible reference to chemical information. Claims that some caffeine is "stronger" than any other type of caffeine is pretty much just marketing bullsh*t. What they probably mean is the combination of alkaloids mentioned above by Chan-ho. (or they just wrote that to sound cool) Anyhow, the claim in its current form not at all NPOV and thus not suitable for Wikipedia. 88.112.194.137 21:55, 11 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Sadly, yeah, I did drag that statement over from the Bawls website when I was attempting to fact find initially, so I take the blame, but yes, looking at [] which may or may not be a reliable source, I think Jolt and Red Bull beat Bawls per oz. so yeah, removing that claim won't be challenged. Guarana is said to be a healthier source of caffeine than the types used by cola companies, but I'd ask if anyone's found proof, or if I'd be pulling trivia out of lacks source land again. --Ice 19:33, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Caffeine Stronger then Coffee?

message: Does anyone else think it is lame that I just edited this article whilst under the influence of Full Throttle and not Bawls?  My university is lame and sponsored by Coke so we have Full Throttle machines and not Bawls.--Lwieise -=- Talk to Me 10:56, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Due to the local (lack of) availability in my town, I'm usually on Mountain Dew when editing, which... while my staple drink is 'passable' by comparison, I feel for ya. --Ice 11:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Full Throttle?!?

message: Can anybody find pictures of the bottles, because the page looks very dull and it is known for its distinctive bottle so if anybody can edit them in that would be great.- Nintendonien 01:52, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pulling out my camera now... Useless Fodder 05:28, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Done and done. I'll find my better camera if requested. It's late here right now, though. If the caption on the second photo seems self-serving it can be changed. I'm just proud of my littel collection. :) Useless Fodder 06:12, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, sorry, but links like that are discouraged, for obvious reasons.  I'll remove the link to your user page and just say "a relatively small..."  --C S (Talk) 06:53, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I do what I can. :) Useless Fodder 23:14, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

text: i added much better(high resolution) pictures. =] Xquietlydyingx 21:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: Does anybody know where/if it is available? There is no mention on it's availability on the website. - ~~  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nintendonien (talk • contribs) 00:17, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As of right now, it is only available in Dallas, TX 7-Elevens.  It is a trial period I suppose before they release it to a broader market.  I think an energy drink Slurpee would be magnificent.  Keep checking 7-11.--Lwieise -=- Talk to Me 03:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is an energy drink Slurpee. It's called Frawg. WARNING: Drinking melted Frawg tastes like you're drinking pure energy. I don't really know why. Useless Fodder 20:47, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: SnoBawls Availability

message: Which word has the correct capitalization? BAWLS Guarana Inc. has it always capitalized, but it can be visually displeasing if left in all capitals. The article has both words. I like the all capital letters approach, but what do you guys think?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neo17262 (talk • contribs) 07:32, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: BAWLS OR Bawls?

message: I'm pretty sure the taste is closer to bubble gum... - 70.81.118.123 13:00, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vanilla?

message: How does one talk about Bawls without eliciting a chorus of giggles from the less mature geeks in ones social net? -Dr Haggis - Talk 04:56, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't. Instead, you try and make every statement about the beverage as suggestive as possible Viewtyjoe 04:36, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

text: The suggestive name is quite likely the reason for it's overwhelming popularity among nerds. That's half the point of drinking it. Also... "Semen_swapping" Don't even try to say the connection was unintended. Cheers! CKnapp 22:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

text: While relevant to the culture, we'd need documentation before we could include the suggestive name details. --Ice (talk) 15:56, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-suggestive name

message: Removed this: A 10oz bottle of Bawls contains 67mg of caffeine, which occurs naturally in guarana and is 2.5 times stronger than the caffeine found in coffee, tea, or regular soft drinks. This makes Bawls the most highly caffeinated soft drink in the market.
Removed this: A 10oz bottle of Bawls contains 67mg of caffeine, which occurs naturally in guarana and is 2.5 times stronger than the caffeine found in coffee, tea, or regular soft drinks. This makes Bawls the most highly caffeinated soft drink in the market.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.80.62.71 (talk • contribs) 03:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just reverted your deletion as you didn't provide any legitimate reasoning behind the deletion.  I did some research and found this link, which mentions Bawls as the third most caffeinated drink.  hoopydinkConas tá tú? 03:35, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: July 2006

message: That link says nothing more that guarana contains a higher volume of caffeine than kola nut, and that bawls has caffeine in a certain quantity. It doesn't address the issue that the claim that the caffeine in Bawls is 2.5 times stronger than normal caffeine is untrue.
Besides, the discussion of this is irrelevant, because bawls doesn't use a guarana slurry or anything, it uses natural flavors derived from guarana and straight caffeine. Its bottle says as much. God bless the pure food and drug act.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by FireNexus (talk • contribs) 02:10, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please, STOP re-introducing false advertising info. The manufacturer's ingredients list mentions plain caffeine (which could be natural or synthetic) and guarana flavor which doesn't need to be extracted from guarana but could also be synthetic as long as its chemical structure is identical to the natural one. The factor 2.5 really means that the concentration of caffeine in Bawls is 2.5 times the concentration in Coca-Cola. Jclerman 15:15, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I have to second Jclerman's statement, also I may merge this with the coffee discussion above... --Ice 19:40, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Most caffeinated

message: The manufacturer claims that their caffeine is 2.5 times stronger than other caffeine. Such claim is chemically incorrect. What the tables indicate is that Bawls contains 2.5 more caffeine than Coca-Cola, for equal volumes of drink. Jclerman 02:06, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, but the writer of this particular page is wrong. It doesn't say guarana flavour, it says "Natural Guarana Extract" which can only be extracted from guarana berries. No one would list "guarana berries" as an ingredient, because I doubt that they use whole berries in the drink.  For the second claim, I don't see how the user has provided information to the contrary of the claim. La Bicyclette 00:35, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: erroneous claims

message: there used to be a bit in the article about how people dropped a bawls mint into the drink and called it a fuzzy bawls. What happened to that? unverifiable?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Technic (talk • contribs) 23:47, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably. Google only gives 16 hits, none reliable sources. — Saxifrage ✎ 00:19, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't this seem to indicate otherwise? --Eyrian 00:23, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be one of those non-reliable sources. No references, no indication of editorial oversight. We could say that thinkgeek sells mints and suggests such a use, but that doesn't support the statement that it's actually done. — Saxifrage ✎ 04:12, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: mint in a bawls

message: Shouldnt the article be renamed BAWLS? That's the correct name of the drink, it even says so on the bottle! [wossi] 01:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are often technical limitations to names on Wikipedia, though a note on the fact that it is typically written in pure capitol letters by the manufacturer should be noted, most people use lower case in my personal observation.--Ice 02:40, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article name

message: The first sentence says that Bawls contains a "relatively large amount of caffeine." Is that just in general because in comparison to coffee I've heard that's not very much JordanZed 14:40, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've found that it's 6.70 mg/fl, so I added to the wiki. Let's hope the admins don't delete it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.127.178.57 (talk) 05:07, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Caffeine content

message: Please!! Someone needs to clean up this article and reference it. Thanks!!  - Hairchrm  00:51, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it! Benjiboi 20:15, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: My boyfriend and I were arguing wether or not Bawls was an energy drink or a soda.  Please help. :)  -Sara.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.46.240.72 (talk • contribs) 10:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Energy drinks are a class of soda, where energizing ingredients are considered the major selling point. Some legal details are also involved, but... basically, it's both. --Ice 02:38, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Is Bawls an energy drink or a soda?

message: this whole article seems like an advertisement.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.114.176.117 (talk) 15:43, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree although an advert tag has been added to one section. The whole article needs claen-up which should address the advertising concerns at the same time. Benjiboi 20:16, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: eh

message: Under 'product line'
The original flavor. It's a huge hit at Paintball grounds and LAN Parties. This product comes in a 10 oz glass bottle and a 16 oz can.
That just wounds like pure advertisement without adding to the aricle. I'm removing it. Superstarwarsfan (talk) 04:04, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sounds like an advertisment.

message: No time to add this in myself, but check out this episode of MSNBC's Your Business  -- RoninBK  T C   10:42, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New source found for article

message: Nothing in this article about how Bawls is impossible to get in Europe? None of the internet sites that sell it can export it outside of the United States. --Ifrit (talk) 13:20, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ThinkGeek does. --128.246.31.6 (talk) 05:33, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it doesn't. The shipping restrictions here state it cannot be shipped outside the U.S. —Entropy (T/C) 11:31, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Europe

message: Didn't Colbert do a bit on this?  Might be worth referencing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.205.22.18 (talk) 20:11, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: "Pop" Culture