Talk:Soka Gakkai/Archive 1

message: Important NOTICE!!
It's time to archive portions of this page—it's getting too big. If anyone has ideas for how they'd like to see it done, or any objections, please speak up. I'll go to it sometime after 0:00 GMT Friday 12/9 if no one does!
Jersey_Jim 07:05, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Tough question, Jim. You know my view - I think most of it is worth keeping, if only so people with similar issues can see some of the discussion and we can perhaps avoid re-inventing the wheel. That said, I think a summary of the Komeito part is in order, and the sections on Ichinen Sanzen; its been said more than once that the page needs reorkign - purhaps a summary of the key complaints and proposed solutions? I am sure a lot of the sarcasm and personal tête a tête can be removed, entertaining as it may be ;-]. My general approach? Summarize some key arguments and debates, so people at least know they've been discussed, and what the outcomes were...I think some of the doctrinal stuff could be maintained, or summarized, because these often led to better understanding...Very difficult task! But hope this is helpful. Feel free to delete my stuff - just don't castrate me, please. Meaning lets keep it an equal opportunity kind of slashing. - Ruby--141.150.21.81 06:20, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
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message: What is the political party related to Soka Gakkai? Zengakuren?
Would it help to say that Soka Gakkai has a role in Japan similar to that of Opus Dei among Catholics? -- Error 01:22, 14 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: You know, isn't it about time to drop the Komeito reference -- unless you want to also give the same weight and reference to so many other organizations that SGI *IS* affiliated with - such as the Boston Center for Peace, the Toda Institute for Global Peace Policy and Research, etc. I did a Google News search and an EBSCO news search, and *everytime* the two names come up together, there is also a disclaimer that says the two groups are NOT connected. And on each of their websites it says the same thing. So give it up already! KPMP --151.198.99.71 22:39, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps this link will help clear up the connection: Mainichi Shimbun Interview with SGI President in which Dr. Ikeda clearly states that "In order to respond to the needs and concerns of the members, I felt it was important to clarify again the independent identity of the Soka Gakkai...In other words, the goal of our religious practice is not to provide electoral support to the Komeito. The essence of religion is found in spiritual solidarity among people. The time for political factionalism is long past. It will only lead to a dead end. Priority should and must always be placed on people. We are advancing a religious movement that is by the people, for the sake of the people." or, perhaps you'd appreciate something from, say, The Economist "Formally, the LDP's coalition partner, New Komeito, which has 34 lower-house seats in parliament, is separate from Soka Gakkai, a lay Buddhist organisation with more than 10m Japanese members. Soka Gakkai makes no campaign donations to New Komeito, for example." (Lotus politics. Economist, 11/27/2004, Vol. 373 Issue 8403, p44-45)  
The article fails to say *why* Soka Gakkai and its leader are controversial... excess of precaution?
Soka Gakkai has been identified in the Japanese and U.S. press as militant and aggressive in their recruiting tactics. The New Komeito or "Clean Government Party" is highly controversial because Daisaku Ikeda and other SGI leaders have said that their aim is for the party to rule Japan and institute Buddhism as the state religion. I think this article should provide links to opposing views of SGI, or at least admit that opposing views exist.--Goettel 01:17, 8 May 2004 (UTC)

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Shouldn't we be using better sources? This is just some guy with his own little "business" and a website. What makes you think he is reliable?  
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It appear that annonymous "62.141.83.33" is a member of Aleph (Aum Shinrikyou).  Check his edit history. 
--FWBOarticle 06:06, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Komeito issues