Talk:Jack Quinn (baseball)

message: I can't find factual verification anywhere for the Slovak origin info added by 71.224.28.24, and as such, am reverting it to the prior version.  It would be neat if it were true (my mom's side were all Slovaks), but the "we have information" line leads me to believe that it might be original research.  Please feel free to add it back in, but only if it can be formally sourced. -Colin Kimbrell 00:52, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
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message: What does it mean to say that this guy "worked as a swimmer"?  This is not ordinarily an occupational category. Paul (talk) 06:18, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
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message: I should explain that I am the E. Michael D. Scott who found the actual data about Jack Quinn's birth and baptism in Stefurov in 1883 and who wrote the article listed as a source in the baseball history journal NINE. I have no interest in trying to modify the current article myself, but anyone who wants to do so might want to be aware of the following:
1. Jack Quinn was Slovak by ETHICICITY. (His family would have spoken Slovak at home when he was born.) However, the town that was then called Stefuro was in Hungary in 1883 (when Hungary itself was just a part of the vast Austro-Hungarian Empire). Indeed, the process of "Magyarization" was in place to try to convert the many ethnic subgroups who lived within "Hungary" at that time to become "Hungarians". Place names were changed into Hungarian names; the use of the many local ethnic languages were nominally "banned"; etc.
2. Stefuro was at that time in the Hungarian "county" of Saros. This town is know known as Stefurov and is in the region known as Giroltove in the Republic of Slovakia.
3. The actual record of the birth and baptism (on July 1 and July 6, 1883, respectively) of Janos Pajkos (using the church latinized name of Joannes Pajkos) can be found at the bottom of the following page at the FamilySeacrh web site:  https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6963-9DQ
4. Please note that Joannes was never Jack's actual name. Joannes was the latinized version of the name Janos (which equates to John in English). Latin was formally still being used in the records of the Greek Catholic church in parts of Hungary at that time.
5. The surname of Tzar assigned to Jack's stepmother Anastasia ("Noska") is actually open to considerable question. WE are currently unable to determine with a high level of accuracy WHO her biological parents were.
6. I have recently added information about Jack and his parents to the genealogical site known as Wikitree. Information and reference material for him can be found at https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Pajkos-3
7. We still don't know when or where Jack started to use the name "Jack Quinn" as his "nom de baseball", but the reason he did it does seem to be clear. Americans of that time wanted their baseball heroes to have simple, "white" names like Jack Quinn as opposed to Central European surnames like "Picus". Someone must have advised Jack, early in his career in the minor leagues, to pick another surname!
8. Another recent book discusses Jack's baseball career in some detail. See Spatz L, Steinberg S. Comeback Pitchers: The Remarkable Career of Howard Ehmke and Jack Quinn (University of Nebraska Press, Lincoln, NE. 2021).
If anyone wants to contact me to discuss information about Jack's origin's further, they are welcome to do so. Jack was my wife's grandmother's half-brother. 73.13.29.236 (talk) 16:09, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor inaccuracies and additional references related to this article