Talk:Maserati MC12

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Vanity, non-notable --Bart133 21:50, 26 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It's interesting that a article can be considered a vanity article by some and submitted to AfD, yet eventually become a Featured Article appearing on the main page. Shawnc 02:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Although no a vain article, it was in a terrible state. Good to see what time can do to an article, I suppose. ---Adasta-</strong> 09:22, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: VfD

message: I am recreating this article from scratch at User:James086/maserati, so if anyone is interesting in helping that would be great. Remember sources and try to keep the wording and format clear because this article is virtually unreadable.
:I finished rewriting the article and have replaced the old one.James086 14:00, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of useful information regarding FIA GT participance seems missing - had to find it on []. And can you clarify the run on Dubai/2004? - from the referred table, I see that AF Corse won Zhuhai rather than Dubai. Honeyman 09:56, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are completely right, sorry, I must have misread the table. It was Zhuahai so I have changed it. That link was basically a mirror of an older revision of this article () which I found using the history. I didn't include that information because it was unsourced but if you can find sources for it go for it. I will look for some of the info aswell. James086 Talk | Contribs|Currently up for Editor Review! 00:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: Recently someone brought up some factual disputes about the article on my talk page, if anyone can confirm any of the info that would be great, I'm currently looking into it. I also took it down from Good article nomination because of this. The issues raised were:
*The team racing in the Italian GT 2005 was only Racing Box
** Shows that there were 2 teams, with several drivers each. Playteam Sara Free had car number 12 and Racing Box had car number 1. Playteam Sara Free had 2 drivers, Racing Box had 3. Will look for other sources however
** only mentions racing box
** References only Racing Box. 
***Changing article. James086 Talk | Contribs 11:42, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Factual issues

message: Good job on this article!
I tried to make minor copyediting changes. Please check all my diffs carefully, as sometimes seemingly innocent changes in wording can change factual content.
*I was surprised there was no article for "air scoop." You can remove the redlink if you like.
* I tried to put in wikilinks wherever I saw words that are specific to the car industry. As a cleanup exercise, you may want to read the article slowly, word by word, and see if there are others that can be added.
* I wasn't sure about "were also contested by"; did you mean "were in competition with"?
* I wasn't sure which victory was being referred to  in the lead, where it says "achieiving a victory" This could be clarified.
* I wasn't sure about "The car is noted for its size and consequent obscurity.." this clause is ambiguous, since abscurity can have different meanings.
* I also left a note about another point in the diffs; please check.
But these are all minor points. Excellent work!
--Ling.Nut 14:48, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA nomination PASS 

message: it looks like vandalism.  will someone fix this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.19.86.156 (talk) 04:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It gets fixed very quickly. This is todays featured article so it will probably attract a lot of vandalism today. Not to worry, there are plenty of people who will get rid of it quickly. James086Talk | Email 04:47, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  what's the big idea with the homosexual comment? 

message: Very minor comment but in the Reception header we have the line Other criticisms include the lack of trunk, rear window....... Would it not be better to use the word "boot" but still with the same wikilink (car boot redirects to trunk (automobile))? I would be bold but as it's on the main page I'd prefer a bit of consensus. Pedro |  Chat   08:11, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it. I never realised that I'd used the American word, I guess I've seen too many American films. James086Talk | Email 08:15, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Pedro |  Chat   08:21, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[British spelling]] Inconsistency. 

message: Under the 'wheels' heading, the word 'Tyre' appears multiple times, even linking to the 'tire' article.  Is this a widely accepted spelling, or should it be Americanized to 'tire'? Ghostwo 15:25, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article uses British spelling and per the Manual of Style it doesn't matter if it's British or American so long as it's consistent throughout . James086Talk | Email 00:11, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on the fact that the wikipedia article for 'tires' is, in fact, titled "Tire", this seems to be the wiki standard.  Additionally, a wikisearch for 'Tyre' found 3823 pages, while 'Tire' yielded 25,856 pages.  Now this is obviously skewed, as it includes synonyms and towns, but you get the point. Still, I suppose it doesn't really make a difference.  I guess us americans will have to wait awhile to rid English of the english >:-)  Ghostwo 06:02, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Tyres" 

message: Can the MC12 really be called a grand tourer? I mean it dosnt even have a boot and is so low that it has trouble on normal roads. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Svennex (talk • contribs) 
:The car has been called a grand tourer by Maserati and due to the subjective term of supercar it was deemed better to call it a grand tourer (Maserati never called it a supercar, they did call the MC12 Corsa a supercar though) and not risk the possible conflict. James086Talk | Email 00:07, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Support. Despite what Maserati may have called it, (perhaps Grand Tourer because it competed in the GT1  racing class?) i believe the MC-12 does not fit the description of a true "Grand Tourer." GTs typically are Front or Front-Mid engine, with a 2+2 seat layout as well as luxury apointments that would otherwise be left out of a sports car; especially one produced for the purpose of homologating a race car. The MC-12 is essentially a street version of its race car counterpart and i would say does have the same sort of comfort found in Maserati's other vehicles, like, the GranTurismo for instance. The GranTurismo, btw, is a classic example of a true GT. Ghost650 (talk) 18:45, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That naming comes from the racing , see the gt article  --Typ932 T·C 05:34, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Right, the race version of the MC12 competes in a GT racing class, which if you read the article simply states that a GT class race car is one that closely resembles a production car; the MC12 street car. Other cars that race in the GT2 class are the Chevrolet Corvette, Dodge Viper, and Ferrari F430; and none of these would be classified as Grand Tourers either. Please see the Grand_tourer#Characteristics article for a description of a Grand Tourer.Ghost650 (talk) 17:52, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The other cars you mentioned are more like road cars, Maserati is very limited model I think most of MC12 "road" cars are used in racing --Typ932 T·C 21:23, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grand tourer? 

message: Why are SI measurement units written as words instead of abbreviations? "Millimeter" instead of "mm"? "Kilogram" instead of "kg"? "Kilometers per hour" instead of "km/h"? Any problem with me changing it? --Pc13 15:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's part of the WP:MOS that measurements should be written out in full in text and abbreviated in brackets eg. "The car weighs 1335 kilograms (2943 lb)." See WP:UNITS. Oh yeah, thanks for correcting the MC12 Corsa's power, I didn't realise it was an error. James086Talk | Email 00:13, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh yeah. "Spell out units in the text". Took me a few times going up and down to notice that. Looks kind of clunky though. --Pc13 07:23, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's easier to write km/h or mm but I suppose they should be written out so that it's easier to read. James086Talk | Email 08:55, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Measurements

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message: I'm not super familiar with car sourcing, but what makes the following high-quality RS as required by the featured article criteria?
* Seriouswheels.com
* Carfolio
* Money Inc.
* Cool Supercars
* Daily Sportscar
* Global Car Locator
* Crash.net
* Ultimate Car Page
Additionally, there is uncited text scattered throughout.  This older FA needs some tuning up, or it may require a featured article review. Hog Farm  Talk 05:25, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi , I know you haven't looked at this in a long time and probably won't, but for future reference, Daily Sportscar is a reliable source for matters regarding, well, sportscar racing. Ultimate Car Page is a user-generated database (by someone who's seen these cars in person and was around when they actually raced, still user-generated nonetheless), and all of the others are total shit. Just a heads up. X750. Spin a yarn? Articles I've screwed over? 10:17, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA concerns - source quality