Talk:Dick Smith (retailer)

message: This page is only a stub at the moment, but i am committed to making it better. So edit if you want, but don't delete until i've had a chance to bring it up to featured article status. Wifki 22:44, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  By Wifki November 9, 2004‎ 22:44 

message: Added the Dick Smith Cat, an Apple II clone and made a few small corrections:
* The VZ-200 and VZ-300 were not compatible with any Tandy computer, though they had some similarities to the TRS-80.
* Changed produced to sold for the Dick Smith brand computers. The Dick Smith brand computers were re-badged models of computers produced by EACA (System 80) and Video Technology (VZ-200, VZ-300 and Cat). 
* "he paid for it to be included free in the popular electronics magazines such...Silicon Chip". I've removed Silicon Chip from this list. Silicon Chip was founded (1987) several years after Dick Smith had sold the company (1982).
--MoreCoffee 12:26, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  By MoreCoffee July 30, 2006‎ 12:26 

message: The Legal Issues section was removed due to 'undue weight' on the subject matter, but at the time it was considered a major controversy, and still is considered to be a major issue with the company today. The company has since changed its refunds policy to exclude mobile phones, and does not resell repaired or display phones until they have been returned to the manufacturer for a full reformat. Should it be re-added to the article, or is it just not that important?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.214.83.43 (talk) 09:44, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legal Issues section 

message: This retailer has been accused of selling returned goods as new. In doing so, they didn't reformat the hard drive, thereby creating a possible privacy issue. There is also the point that the retailer has represented the returned item as being new, which it allegedly was not. Reference: complaints-mount-over-dick-smiths-dodgy-drives  I'm not sure if this should be added to the main article as yet Gorilla (talk) 12:07, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the media 

message: Did dick smith go bankrupt? Someone said so. 122.62.42.99 (talk) 06:49, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: *According to the information I have found (their own investors site and various media outlets)... yes, they have. The company appears to be in a custodial ownership - operations run by an independent person or organization - and seeking a buyer. However, no stores are closed or closing as of yet. FriarTuck1981 (talk) 07:13, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bankrupt? 

message: The "by whom" tag next to "At the time of the listing, the market capitalisation of the company was valued at A$520 million" should be removed.  At least two of the sources given cite that figure, and it is easy to calculate if one knows the number of shares issued and the price they were issued at. (At least I try (talk) 11:56, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: You make a good point. I have removed the tag for now. If the tagger still has concerns they can discuss them here. AusLondonder (talk) 03:22, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Acquisition by Anchorage Capital 

message: has repeatedly changed the name of company founder Dick Smith to Richard H Smith in the lede. This violates WP:COMMONNAME. This is especially relevant given the eponymous nature of the company. Dick Smith is unanimously known as Dick Smith, no credible reason exists to refer to him as Richard H Smith. Do any other editors have a view on this? AusLondonder (talk) 02:42, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not helpful to discussion if a general claim of violation is made citing a WP policy which does not deal with the matter in discussion.  WP:COMMONNAME is purely and simply about titles, has excellent logical foundation and easily understood.  Equally, it would be (and is) absurd to suggest, as has AusLondonder by citing the policy, that there is a blanket prohibition on the use of full names in the lede or body of articles.  So I await some reasoned justification to AusLondonder's repeated reverts.  sirlanz  02:53, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Smith's article is titled Dick Smith (entrepreneur). Dick Smith is the name he is commonly known by. His article, of course, notes his formal name in the opening sentence. On what grounds would we refer to him as Richard H Smith? This is confusing for readers. AusLondonder (talk) 02:58, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Noted AusLondonder has nothing more to say about WP:COMMONNAME which was the original basis of his edit warring (no edit summary, just revert) and now asks for grounds and provides his only one, that WP readers are incapable of understanding that Dick is the diminutive for Richard.  Well, if indeed any significant section of WP readership is thus incapable, they are called upon only to press the link to find out.  The ground for retaining his real name is that this is the lede and a certain amount of formality is proper and appropriate, this being an encyclopedia, not a magazine or children's storybook.  But, of course, there may be others who like the dumbing down of everything around them and I'll leave it as it is, for now. sirlanz 04:44, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I think WP:COMMONNAME is relevant because it dictates the name of Dick Smith's BLP. I see no reason we should not use the title of his BLP. Regarding your "dumbing down" comments - should Bill Clinton be refereed to as William J Clinton? Bob Katter as Robert C Katter Jr? Tony Abbott as Anthony J Abbott? That makes no sense. I hope other editors weigh in. AusLondonder (talk) 22:47, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

text:  Who reverted Richard H Smith to Dick Smith as well AusLondonder (talk) 22:49, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Richard H. Smith, or Richard Harold Smith, the Australian businessman, best known firstly as founder of Dick Smith Electronics, later notable for his exploits in setting aviation records, also once Chairman of the Australian Civil Aviation Authority etc, is known in Australia as 'Dick Smith', not 'Richard Smith' or any variation of his official name. It is interesting to note, though not authoritative, (but still very interesting) that neither of those names are redirects to Smiths' BLP page. In fact the only current redirect is Dick Smith (entreprenuer) as a result of entrepreneur being misspelled. See here. 220 of Borg 12:34, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree entirely,  AusLondonder (talk) 01:50, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

text: If people are desperately urgent to be informed of his full, "legal" name, they can easily follow the link to Dick Smith (entrepreneur). That seems perfectly sufficient to me. Should they be informed of his place and date of birth in the lede here as well? The "references to that name" in, for example, the title are not relevant, because those references are in the context of the company name. AusLondonder (talk) 08:19, 16 April 2016 (UTC)

text: I wanted to make sure we were talking about the right 'Dick', as there are many Richard Smiths. I find nothing un-encyclopaedic about referring to Smith as Dick Smith. - 220 of Borg 19:24, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dick Smith's name in lede  

message: * http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/05/04/kogans_dick_on_the_web/
* https://www.dicksmith.com.au/da/
* https://www.dicksmith.co.nz/dn/
– Conrad T. Pino (talk) 05:44, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Online Operations Resume - Kogan's Dick on the Web 

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