Talk:Coat

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:Confusingly, what was once called a coat is now commonly referred to as a jacket, as in a dinner jacket, although the original meaning is still used in tailoring—to mean the upper part of a suit, for example.   
    
:- What is now commonly called a coat—an outer layer of clothing such as a trench coat—is, in tailoring terms, correctly called an overcoat, since it is worn over the coat.   
    
:- A coat or rug is also a covering for domesticated animals; see, for example, dog coat. 
In general:
* Split human clothing and animal clothing on the disambig page, and linked to coat (dog) directly from there
* Added history, external links and references, categories "clothing" and "fashion", lists of types of coats and jackets with links and definitions
Still needs:
* Images!
* More types of coats and jackets
PKM 01:38, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: I'm not certain if this is the right place, but someone who knows is bound to edit this entry at some point; hopefull they'll read the description, too.  What does "double-breasted" mean?  I can think of many possible defs myself, but most of them rely on the less savory parts of my mind.
: Double-breasted in clothing means having two fronts that overlap, usually with two parallel rows of buttons, to retain warmth where the garment closes in front, or to make the chest appear fuller when that is the fashion.  - PKM 03:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: - PKM 03:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help! 

message: A coat is an outerwear garment. Nothing is worn over it. For formal clothing (the sort of thing you would wear with a suit) it is traditionally about knee length, although in recent decades shorter coats are also being worn. While a coat is primarily the kind of tailored garment you would wear with a suit, it is also sometimes used to refer to more informal outerwear such as an anorak that is below hip-length. 
A jacket can be worn with outerwear. It is never more than about hip length. To me, a jacket means the top half of a suit, a blazer, or a  sports jacket. Less commonly, a jacket might also be used to refer informally to a for example blouson style jacket that is around waist length that is worn as outerwear with only a shirt or pullover beneath. 
I'm very confused why a norfolk jacket should be in an article about coats! You could wear an overcoat or raincoat over a a Norfolk jacket, so its not a coat! You wouldnt wear a coat over a coat. 
Perhaps this has something to do with differences between British and American usage; perhaps also that Americans dress less formally than european adults so perhaps our vocabulary is more specific in this area. 
I would suggest this article needs two experts in the british and american clothing industries to sort out the confusion. 62.253.52.193 17:00, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As a very late response, I can say with some certainty that this distinction is not as you imagine it. Evening coats, morning coats, and frock coats are all examples of coats that are not outerwear. Unfortunately, I'm afraid I can't give an authoritative explanation of the difference, as I have, in fact, no understanding of it whatsoever. --William Ager 03:26, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The things is, in common everyday usage, most of us distinguish coats and jackets.  But the top half of a suit is always a "coat" to a tailor, as is a "sports coat" (though not a "dinner jacket"...).  Every day usage and usage by professionals in the clothing trades is different, and if anything the categories of "coat" and "jacket" overlap (and there are slightly different usages between the US and UK as well, I believe). - PKM 07:55, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coats and jackets are different: why mix them up in one article? 

message: In British usage:
Jacket: Never more than hip length. More formal types would be the top half of a suit, a blazer, a dinner jacket or a sports jacket. Informal types include denim jackets, biker jackets, etc.
Coat: Traditionally about knee length but can be shorter. Almost invariably an outermost garment, often worn over a jacket. Examples would be overcoat, raincoat, trench coat, duffle coat, anorak. Typically heavier for winter but can be lightweight for indoors (e.g. lab coat [often worn over a jacket but a lab coat is not a jacket itself because it is too long]).
Much of the difference is distinguished by their use as layers (a coat may be worn over a jacket but a jacket would never be worn over a coat) and reflected in their length (a denim coat would be long; a denim jacket would be short).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tors newton (talk • contribs) 00:52, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  British usage 

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message: What kind of coat was the one Victor Creed wore in X-Men Origins: Wolverine? Josh (talk) 07:07, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Coat question