Talk:Obsessive–compulsive disorder/Archive 1

message: Here's a useful public domain booklet; material from this can be freely copied into the article 
Enchanter 00:13, 15 January 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Link currently dead, alas boffy_b 22:24, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Dead, but the content is still available at the Internet Archive. Jareha 22:00, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useful public domain source 

message: The article linked to by extinction is irrelevant.  I don't know what to change it to, as there is no article about the indented meaning of the word "extinction".  However, extinction (disambiguation) mentions it. —Daniel Brockman 21:14, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extinction 

message: I don't know who at Wikipedia decided that titles of books, films, etc., should take italics rather than quotation marks, but it's an atrocious decision. Italics might be the way it's done in freshman college essays, but it's not the way it's done in the real world. Check the stylebook of most any contemporary publication; quotes are used for titles.
The italics look amateur. (Which I suppose is what Wikipedia legitimately is, when it comes down to it.) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.41.175.119 (talk) 21:14, 28 October 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth, I checked the periodicals that are currently lying in heaps all over my house. Quotation marks: The New York Times, The New Yorker, The San Francisco Chronicle. Italics: The New York Review of Books, The Nation, The Comics Journal, The San Francisco Bay Guardian, Poets & Writers Magazine, Nurse Week. I think there's more diversity in "the real world" than you're suggesting – though I do speak as an amateur. ←Hob 03:47, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)

text: HA! Thanks for that. ←Hob 03:47, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth, Hob, it's the Harvard Standard, and I have rarely come across any other way of cited sources in any of the journal articles i have read throughout my career.--81.151.234.88 23:40, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

text: The way my high school English teacher taught me, titles of "full-length" works like books, plays, albums, and movies are supposed to be italicized, while titles of "short" things like short stories, songs, and magazine articles are to be placed in quotes.  The CITE tag in HTML, intended for use with titles, is generally rendered in italics. -- Dan -- 03:30, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: Picky Picky.  Does it really matter on a free-based online encyclopedia that anyone (well, almost anyone) can edit what is italic and what is not? --Admiral Roo 10:52, 23 June 2005 (UTC)

text: The AP style uses quotations over italics (italics or underlining is the correct way to denote longer works) only because "type face cannot be sent through AP computers." That's from The Associated Press Stylebook, 2004 edition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.65.75.224 (talk) 23:16, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why italics instead of quotes for titles of works? 

message: Jessica Alba said she had OCD as a child. So she isn't a sufferer anymore. I think it would be appropriate to remove her name from the list on the article. -- Porcher 17:27, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. --DanielCD 17:48, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I completely 100% agree. Duh.  --Jennifer Alison. Indiana. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.139.190.15 (talk) 19:55, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I am under the impression that one doesn't "get over" OCD. Or, at least that's what I gathered from my shrink. I mean, mine is under control, but I still have it. So, I don't know if that's a valid ground for removing her. Mogwit 00:07, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I would leave her in, because this is not that odd.  I had OCD as a child and have "recovered" though I have not undergone any formal treatment at all. I was a counter/checker, had to have things in balance/overcorrect and was a compulsive handwasher. I could not stand to have any substance on my hands. I think mine was due to anxiety; my dad suffered a brain injury and exhibited bizarre behavior so I think the OCD kicked in as a means of controlling something in my life situation.  I still feel compelled to correct pronunciations but I'm a broadcaster, so that comes in handy and my 99% of counting/checking symptoms have disappeared. (A family member told me they were concerned about my "weird" childhood behavior - gee...thanks for getting me some help. Not.) :) Vsmac 17:12, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jessica Alba 

message: In case it hasn't already been done, Joey Ramone's OCD can be verified by statements made by his mother and brother in the film End of the Century: The Story of the Ramones. Also, please reconsider the "Diane Chambers" and Vertigo; they sound more like either OCPD, or minor, non-clinical compulsive tendencies, than true OCD. Illusi0nist 03:13, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joey Ramone 

message: Why does info about As Good As It Gets say something like OCD is portrayed in a sterotypical way in this movie? I don't think that this movie really was that much worse than other movies in its portrayal of OCD and a lot of aspects of this movie show the true suffering of someone with OCD....the scene where Melvin keeps locking and unlocking the door come to mind. You also see Melvin burning his hands in the beginning of the movie as well.  Flyerhell 09:26, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, seconded- I thought that the symptoms were portrayed pretty realistically. The end credits of the film also certify that the OC Foundation of California was consulted by the screenwriters. Illusi0nist 21:50, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  As Good As It Gets 

message: I think it would be nice if some aspects of this article were expanded. Specifically, the history of OCD (Anal fixation from Freud????)  and better treatment details (Exposure and Response prevention). Depression tends to be highly comorbid with OCD as well (Helpless-hopeless hypothosis), it would be nice if this were mentioned.  Done. The part about opiates was interesting but it would be nice if it were expanded...and perhaps a reason could be offered for the treatment effects of opiates. I have read some recent research positing that the comorbidity rate of OCD with drug addiction is VERY high, perhaps because drug addiction can be viewed as a type of compulsive behavior?  Done. I also take issue with this sentence:  "People who suffer with OCPD tend to derive pleasure from their obsessions or compulsions. Those with OCD do not derive pleasure but are ridden with anxiety. This is a significant difference between these disorders." While people with OCD are in fact filled with anxiety, it is important to note that the compulsion RELIEVES this anxiety (temporarily)....and while the compulsions are distressing to individuals with OCD, it is important to note that since these compulsions are anxiety-relieving, the OCD sufferer may actually enjoy the compulsion to a point? Just something to keep in mind. I can make the edits, but I wanted to get some feedback on them before I do so. Flyerhell 09:30, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansions 

message: I scanned for a few of the references throughout the article but I could not find any citations of them. If these are not actually cited in the article, shouldn't they be under "further reading"? I will also add the reference from the citation that I put into the article last week.  Done. I also attempted to clean up the reference section, it appears that 2 or 3 different types of styles were used to cite references. I think that we should agree on one style. I would recommend APA (that is what I used) as this is a psych article. Let me know your thoughts. Flyerhell 09:11, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Obsessive-compulsives, please join the Recent Changes patrol and monitor Wikipedia for vandalism.  Your help is definitely necessary.  Don't forget to eat and sleep, however.  And make sure you are earning enough cash to pay for basic necessities.  Thanks. -MPD 00:26, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Otay Buttweet. --DanielCD 22:26, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I doubt you meant it, but some of those comments such as "Don't forget to eat or sleep however" could potentially be taken as offensive to OCD sufferers. Deathawk 04:56, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought it was funny, and I am an OCD sufferer... However I have been dealing with the disorder for almost 7 years now and I am currently in control of it. I did lose almost 20 lbs when I was "at my worst", because I would be so consumed with other thoughts I really DID forget to eat and sleep... yet comic relief is good sometimes and helps people put things into perspective. -- Kat —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.47.139.226 (talk) 14:19, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request 

message: The neuropsychiatry section is incredibly hard to read, at first it list the receptor but then it lists them again in some sort of sequence that is just incredibly disoriented, I don't object to this section but I think we should make it more readable. Deathawk 04:53, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neuropsychiatry 

message: In the section OCD in Literature and Fiction, the article claims that the novel Xenocide by Orson Scott Card features a planet where people with OCD are revered as religious figures. It was actually Children of the Mind, Xenocide's sequel, that featured this planet- it was the character Wang-Mu that most heavily presented OCD in the novel (she would sometimes have to trace wood grains).
I've changed the article accordingly. Mouseclicker 02:26, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Untrue.  It was indeed Xenocide that featured the "godspoken" from Path.  Qing-jao was the one who traced wood grains.Sanjayhari 22:17, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not Xenocide that dealt with OCD characters 

message: I propose changing the page to:
: Florence Nightingale (disputed)
or
: Florence Nightingale (according to some sources, other sources dispute this or have other theories)
According to the Wikipedia page on her she suffered from the bipolar disorder. Not OCD. A quick Google search brought up different sources... some saying she suffered from bipolar disorder (1), others saying she suffered from Chronic Fatigue Syndrome. (2)
This would constitute adding a remark stating that the claim is disputed. Especially because this is a historic person and there is no first-hand/contemporary diagnosis. The claim is based on historic evidence of the symptoms she showed.  Thehardwareman T C E 07:23, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not aware of any credible evidence that Florence Nightingale had OCD.  Her name should be removed from the list here, as speculation.    Sandy 10:55, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Florence Nightingale 

message: "Studies have also been done that show nutrition deficiencies may also be a probable cause for OCD and other mental disorders. Certain vitamin and mineral supplements may aid in such disorders and provide the nutrients necessary for proper mental functioning."
To be sure, nutrition is helpful.
And to make this point even more effective, there should be some evidence to back it up.  Otherwise we're in the realm of ritalindeath.com. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.72.108.19 (talk) 17:59, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have done a Medline PubMed search for medical literature on Vitamin Deficiency AND OCD and Nutritional Deficiency AND OCD.  Only one abstract address nutritional deficiency in OCD and it speculates that the finding of abnormal low Vitamin b12 in OCD could be an effect of OCD or a cause.  Google search was not very fruitful either though I did not spend as much time on the Google search.  I recommend the statment above: "Studies have also been done that show nutrition deficiencies may also be a probable cause for OCD and other mental disorders. Certain vitamin and mineral supplements may aid in such disorders and provide the nutrients necessary for proper mental functioning." be deleted.Psychofarm 18:50, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation for vitamin claim 

message: Ha! an encyclopedia entry on OCD being so long because so many of the people editing it HAVE OCD. Is that Irony? Actually, it's probably the opposite. Anyway, maybe the page should have a special thanks to people with OCD for making Wikipedia possible in the first place! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.19.72.173 (talk) 05:01, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're saying "irony", as if implying that it was a bad thing. -- intgr 07:42, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The irony 

message: I'm giving this a seperate section so it will hopefully stand out more.
Some good work has gone on recently (a big improvement) but we are still listing people without verifying the facts.  No one should be listed as suffering from a mental illness on WP without a citation or preferably a self admission.  It could be considered slanderous.
I'm going to do what I should have done a long time ago.  I'm going to go through and remove references to any celebrity that doesn't have a citation.  Time permitting I'm going to research them to see if I can find an admission of OCD.  Claiming people have OCD without proof is a big deal. Robert Brockway 07:37, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  This seems to be an ongoing problem.  I have removed all the remaining unsourced names, and placed them in a section below. I apologize for the removal of some which are probably legitimate additions.  However, it is better to not have someone who suffers from OCD than to falsely claim that they do.  In fact, it is probably a good idea to double check even the sourced entries.  I have indicated in the comment for the section that any unsourced additions will be reverted...if they are reasonable, they can be added to the list below. As sources are found, they can be removed from the list below, and added to the article.--GregRM 22:04, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

text: PS...I also realize that some entries, like Jessica Alba, Charles Darwin, and Florence Nightengale have been discussed in preceding discussion.  However, there did not seem to be a clear consensus in my brief reading of these discussions, so I removed them.  They can be readded to the article with appropriate sources/qualifiers/consensus.--GregRM 22:09, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I just realized that there did not seem to be any debate about Charles Darwin as I had originally thought.  A source was provided in the older list.  I will leave it up to the other editors here to decide if the source is trustworthy.  (Note that it also suggests Florence Nightengale had OCD, which has been previously questioned and discussed on this page...see Talk:Obsessive-compulsive disorder#Florence Nightingale).--GregRM 22:30, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Celebrity List again 

message: This list contains people who have been added to Obsessive-compulsive disorder#Famous/celebrity OCD sufferers without a source.  They can be removed from this list and placed in the article if accompanied by at least one valid source.  Multiple sources are preferable, especially in ambiguous cases.  Discussion on each person can be placed below their name.--GregRM 22:55, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced famous potential OCD sufferers 

message: * Joey Ramone, aka Joey Ramone, was an American vocalist and songwriter best known for his work in the legendary punk rock group The Ramones.
*: Joey mentions Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder in the lyrics of "Like a Drug I Never did Before" (the lyric itself is "demons swirling in an OCD pond").  He doesn't actually state that he has it in the song, but it is a very strong implication, especially because the lyrics of the song are in the first person.  Coupled with the fact that it is relatively common knowledge of Ramones fans that he does in fact have it, is this a strong enough citation to re-include it in the article? Monkeyfinger 05:18, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion for individuals in main article 

message: User:Anthony cfc added the following text:
:The most common "thought" symptom is young men experiencing homosexual thoughts and quickly masterbating, etc..., to reverse the thought. Many experts now link it with many other mental illesses, as described in this article.
This sounds rather inappropriate and trollish, hence I removed it for now. Would you mind providing any sources that agree with you? -- intgr 09:50, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition of inappropriate text 

message: Does anyone have a theory on the connection between some mythic vampire behaviors and OCD? I have OCD, and I'm also of Eastern European descent. So I'm wondering if there's a connection there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.65.75.224 (talk) 23:36, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That comes from the belief that if you throw rice at a vampires feet, they will have to count every grain before doing anything else. I don't really think that there is a connection, OCD has been found in people of all races.Wiz kid 02:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Hmm, I have never heard of anything about vampires and OCD. Have you got a link or source? Ebb 01:11, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vampire connection 

message: David Beckham is no longer England captain, so I shall change this appropriately.--86.3.172.237 14:04, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  David Beckham 

message: These articles often seem to be written by people who don't actually have the disorder.  Most bothersome is the lack of an understanding that our human 'models and definitions' are really just simplifications of reality; the real picture is far murkier and more complex (for example, is a transgendered person male or female?).  To claim that OCD and OCPD are totally unrelated is ridiculous.  I have symptoms of both; for me they are related and I'll bet for other sufferers too.
Second, the orthodox way of over-defining qualifications may lead to some to exclude themselves.  Like saying that 'I'm not gay because I don't dress up in women's clothes,' misunderstanding that not all symptoms need be present for one to suffer from OCD is important.  I don't check the door 20 times, I just check once or twice.  I count steps, try to avoid stepping on lines on sidewalks, but I don't worry about 'balancing' the right side with the left.  I might spend hours on end about one subject but not another one.  I do believe there is a degree, someone might be more OCD than others.  The article needs to be re-written, disposing of the ironically OCPD point of view bias (everything is black or white, right or wrong) in favor of a more nuanced view. 68.219.73.31 03:43, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Degrees of OCD 

message: Although most of the statements and sources in this article seem pretty reliable, the referencing is not done properly. In particular, there are no page references. I tried looking for the original author of the article, but it appears most of the work was done by an anon IP:  :(  If you have added any references to the article please go back and add in the pages. I'm going to try to get a hold of some of the references mentioned here, but if I cannot find the exact pages the sources may be thrown out because of unverifiability. A good example of a well-referenced article is this. Sofeil 09:51, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You should reconsider citing the Arizona study of hallucinogens as a promising treatment.  If you read the study it is a proposal with a very interesting premise but does not yet represent actual research.  It is also extremely far fetched to assume that anyone will be getting medical treatment with these substances an any situation beyond research for several decades. 65.125.103.78 22:01, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Referencing 

message: "One serious symptom which stems from this is "counting" your steps, e.g. you must take twelve steps to the car in the morning."
This symptom does not seem to differ in severity from the other ones listed, so why is it given a special emphasis? Monkeyfinger 06:52, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe this is a more common symptom than others, and in fact one of the questions many doctors ask while making a diagnosis.  FireWeed 01:47, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Define "serious" 

message: "An estimated 1 in 2 adolescents and adults are thought to have OCD."
Half of people over 12 meet criteria for obsessive-compulsive disorder? Are you kidding me? I changed this to: "Community studies have placed the prevalence between 1 and 3%, although the prevalence of clinically recognized OCD is much lower, suggesting that many individuals with the disorder are unaccounted for clinically." and added a reference. 69.118.25.126 09:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  50% prevalence? 

message: I noticed the tag saying references should be more specific (ie. cite pages), being as this is a psychology related article, and that it cites sources according to APA format (which doesn't use page numbers), it seems that it is unlikely or even impossible for someone to scan these references and come up with page numbers.  I propose removing this tag.  Thoughts?  Beatdown 08:21, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The tag was added here , and then the comment above. I agree that most standard scientific (ie, footnoting or APA) reference formats don't require page numbers. There is still one quote that does not have a page number, however. Also, probably of more concern is the use of lectures and course textbooks rather than research articles. This article is also very frequently edited, so perhaps it has been cleaned up some since?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Limegreen (talk • contribs) 10:48, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference Tag 

message: This whole section looks like reiterated info that's already in the intro.
I'm not gonna edit it just in case it's necessary in some way.  But someone should look at it. The Snake 08:08, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeat information? 

message: This page's content plus the unusually huge number of edits to it is highly amusing. Jtrainor 03:45, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lol 

message: I'm new to Wikipedia editing so I don't know exactly what to do about it, but the way in which
this entire section of the OCD article states conjectures about relationships between neurology
and the disorder as matters of fact is not neutral or stylistically correct. 
It also does not list any sources, besides for a quote. It talks about OCD and certain neurological 
receptors being strongly correlated, which is evidently based on scientific studies, but no source
is given. Specific statments about the relationships between neuropsychiatry and OCD as proven matters of 
scientific fact are probably inaccurate anyway. The section should either be overhauled and cited or 
deleted. (Tperson 06:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A quick tip for these kinds of situations, you can add  to any unsourced statement that needs one. Anything unsourced is open to being removed at any time by any editor, per WP:V, so feel free to be bold. -- Ned Scott 07:26, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neuropsychiatry section 

message: Can someone please explain why an NMDA ANAGONIST may be a useful drug in treating OCD when it just said that the disorder's severity was negatively correlated with the activity of the NMDA receptor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Joel2017 (talk • contribs) 22:25, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Memantine 

message: Does anyone know if there is any FIRM, SPECIFIC scietific evidence to suggest that physical exercise helps in treating OCD, as it does for other anxiety disorders and depression? One of the changes cuased by chronic ssri treatment (in rats at least) is up-regulation of 5ht2c receptors. However exercise is believed to cause downregulation of central 5ht2c receptors. Therefore is there the potential that exercise could even make OCD worse? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.157.64 (talk) 15:12, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: i dont like to say for certain but my ocd symptoms are less when i exercise and in a book i have called "Overcoming obsessive compulsive disorder" it describes a woman who only escaped from her compulsions by doing exercise and eventually climbed a mountain, leaving no space for horrible ocd in her life as she was so tired :) XYaAsehShalomX 18:48, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exercise and OCD 

message: On March 4, I edited the list of "Symptoms," and today I saw that it was removed.  I have Asperger's Syndrome, to which many people believe OCD, as well as growth with parallels to gigantism, is linked, and this is a problem for me.  Now I know that if I do indeed have OCD, then I don't have it as well as most such people! Gmeric13@aol.com 01:42, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ocd does have features in common with autism/aspergers ... i was obsessed with that condition, for years ... it's not the same though, apparently aspergers has more in common with ocd personality disorder than ocd though :) XYaAsehShalomX 18:43, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Freak case 

message: Anyone notice this statement?
Anyone who has OCD has brown hair, anyone with blonde, red or black hair has no chance of having OCD, studies show.
I couldn't find any sources to corroborate this, and it seems rather unlikely. 24.155.108.246 11:40, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: wtf, thats bullshit! XYaAsehShalomX 01:00, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

text: That's ridiculous. So that implies that no one in Asia or Africa has OCD since they have black hair!!?? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.157.64 (talk) 04:31, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  OCD and hair color 

message: Months ago there was an information here regarding how high testosterone levels can lead to OCD in males. I am not seeing it here now. I am a male and I believe my condition is caused by high testosterone levels. I am an obsessions-sufferer only. Never thought about compulsions. I don't have fear.. I just have thoughts that keep appearing. Most of the time I don't even think about them in concrete.. but the speed of my mind forces them to appear.
Anyone here with similar symptoms? I also suffer from anxiety.. I mean, what is anxiety after all? I am determined, I am fearless.. but this state of mind upsets me. I am extremely reflexive, obviously into philosophical meditations. 
I know I am not the typical OCD sufferer. Regarding the statement above, I do think that mania, anxiety, anger and OCD can be caused by testosterone levels. 
Any opinions about that? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.155.84.214 (talk) 11:34, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Testosterone levels 

message: Jim Luzynski is a chronic sufferer of this disorder
What is wrong with having a list of famous sufferers. These people are all verified on their respective wikipedia pages as having the disorder, so what why did this idiot called PIrish delete my edits?
j
You could always just put them back.  I know some of the most famous sufferers of other major diseases are listed in other articles. --Hourick (talk) 14:50, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous sufferers 

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thread_title:  Fair use rationale for Image:MONK Season4Cover.jpg 

message: I live in NZ where benzylpiperazine is legal. I tend to find that other stimulants (caffeine, nicotine etc) make my OCD worse, but BZP makes it much better. Has anyone else noticed this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by  (talk • contribs) 
:This is the wrong forum for this type of inquiry.  Kindly move on to an OCD chatroom or bulletin board.  Thanks.  --DashaKat 21:50, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Party drug effect 

message: Someone should just cite information. It is so annoying seeing a page have all of these "citation needed" things. The box at the top of the page will go away if someone just puts down sources 216.93.229.62 02:48, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  request sources 

message: There seems to be a vandalised paragraph: "A good example of OCD is Sharon Ludwick of Mount Holly, New Jersey..."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.74.65.25 (talk) 23:57, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism? 

message: Are external links to OCD treatment centers/programs considered linkspam?  I lean towards yes, but I guess if there's valuable info at the site it may be worth inclusion.  Thoughts?  AlphaEta 17:28, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're referring to that Linden Centers link, I think it is.  The IP editor added it to (nearly?) every anxiety disorder-related article.  I have removed it from all the articles and posted a spam warning to the IP's talkpage. Aleta 17:50, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Treatment centers 

message: And why?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.93.254.29 (talk) 03:23, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who keeps removing the references? 

message: External links to patient support groups (especially online chat boards), blogs, and commercial (e.g., "buy our program") sites are normally not accepted on Wikipedia.  Please read the external links policy and the specific rules for medical articles before adding more external links.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 00:41, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked at the specific rules for medical articles you've wikilinked to here and noted that it specifically targeted charities and the like for exclusion.  Beyond that, it doesn't seem that any of the links I've just removed provide anything beyond that which could (and should) be added to the article as content. aruffo (talk) 14:21, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: Should nutritional therapies be included from quality articles and studies (i.e. peer reviewed, double-blind, randomized, controlled-trials)? I think, absolutely. If there is general agreement, will do... Gnif global (talk) 12:50, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would assert there is little value in information that can be described no more clearly than "studies have been done...", especially when only a single study is being referenced.  Legitimately scientific studies have "been done" and can "be done" on any topic imaginable, however irrelevant or unhelpful.  If the results of this study you wish to include are meaningful, significant, and notable, then they should not merely be alluded to with an external link but described in a manner which informs this article and acknowledges its context; otherwise your mention, thus shoehorned in, will undoubtedly be recognized and interpreted (as the comment from the previous revision indicates) as akin to spam.  aruffo (talk) 23:24, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nutrition 

message: In the following paragraph in the medication section of this article, there is an error:
Recent research has found increasing evidence that opioids may significantly reduce OCD symptoms, though the addictive property of these drugs likely stands as an obstacle to their sanctioned approval for OCD treatment. Anecdotal reports suggest that some OCD sufferers have successfully self-medicated with opioids such as Ultram and Vicodin, though the off-label use of such painkillers is not widely accepted, again because of their addictive qualities. Tramadol is an atypical opioid that may be a viable option as it has a low potential for abuse and addiction, mild side effects, and shows signs of rapid efficacy in OCD. Tramadol not only provides the anti-OCD effects of an opiate, but also inhibits the re-uptake of serotonin (in addition to norepinephrine). This may provide additional benefits, but should not be taken in combination with antidepressant medication unless under careful medical supervision due to potential serotonin syndrome.[20]
Ultram is the trade name for the medication Tramadol - they are described in this paragraph as substantially different.
--24.121.109.186 (talk) 02:56, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  error in medication section 

message: On the St. Johns Wort section, the references given for st. Johns wort being an effective treatment for OCD are completely bogus, if you read the actual papers that are cited through the citation, both clinical trials involve depressed patients, not OCD patients. This is misleading and the paragraph should be removed. - signed by an anon IP
 
This is not entirely accurate. It is effective with people suffering OCD in the similar biological pathway that improves the lifestyles of people with depression. SSRIs are given to both depressives (types of) and people with OCD. There is a clinical protocol in subscribing St Johns Wort in children and teenagers. Longsocksandbooks (talk) 08:52, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  St John's Wort 

message: I wanna make it clear on there should be other additions to the article: OCD is also characterized by an intense fascination or "obsession" with a thing, subject or person (i.e. stalking). There are theories on whether stalking involves one person obsessed with another person who doesn't desire to be near or associate with them, that is to obsessively follow around or harrass the other person as a possible OCD trait. To be obsessed or "fixated" over something like an attachment is a classic example of obsessive behaviors associated with OCD. + Mike D 26 (talk) 02:47, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not familiar with any publication, health organization or diagnostic tool that claims stalking another human being is a "classic" OCD behavior.  Could you provide a reference so that we may evaluate this suggestion before adding it to the article? Thanks, AlphaEta 04:14, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obsessive behaviors 

message: A symptom of OCD according to the article:
"Chasing- Having the need to follow people who the victim is irritated by. Sometimes having warm feelings inside about this person."
By the victim, do we mean "sufferer".  If so could this be made clear, and then also, the second sentence seems contradictory.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.105.223.238 (talk) 15:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don't understand this part 

message: I'm certainly not an expert on ocd but the definition of a compulsion, given in the main article, is slightly at odds with what I've read elsewhere (sorry can't remember the references). In the main article, a compulsion is defined as the act (mental or physical) that is carried out in response to the anxiety produced by the obsession, usually to 'neutralise' that anxiety. According to what I have read elsewhere, however, a compulsion is not really the act itself but the mental urge to carry out the act. So the compulsion, like the obsession, is also a mental 'event'. According to this point of view, an obsession is a mental event in the form of an intruding thought such as: "My hands might be covered in germs" (generating anxiety). The compulsion would then be another mental event i.e. a thought in the form of a 'mental urge': "Therefore I MUST wash my hands." The act is then carried out (the direct product of the compulsion) and the anxiety temporarily relieved. This point of view also allows for the existence of 'pure C' as well as 'pure O'. An example would be people who compulsively arrange things in a certain way or in a symmetrical pattern. These people simply have a mental compulsion to order and arrange, but there is frequently no identifiable 'obsession' as such. I have no idea which point of view is correct, but I am simply raising the question as to whether the definition of 'compulsion' that has been given is scientifically accurate. Can any knowledgeable expert advise?Snookerrobot (talk) 14:50, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of 'Compulsion' 

message: Aruffo, how about a compromise. I can see your point that a list of people can give a gossipy impression. I have taken away all examples except BEckham, and even added another source to this. Is this compromise better?--Ekologkonsult (talk) 14:41, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, and I think we should also add a link to Howard Hughes (perhaps the most famous case of OCD).  I apologize if my enthusiasm seemed "angry".  I have a bias against non-notable cases for a specific reason-- I am personally acquainted with more than one person whose OCD went undiagnosed for many years, despite OCD's oppressive influence on their lives, because every time they heard about OCD it was in the context of some random person with some random symptom (washing, checking, etc).  They'd see this random anecdote and think to themselves "I don't behave like they do, therefore I must not have OCD," which prevented their receiving proper treatment and care as their situations became increasingly desperate.  I think you're right that people who seek out information about OCD are most likely those who have a personal stake in knowing; the importance of notable cases for OCD is that, even though the stories of those cases do begin with the bizarre and highly individualized manifestations of the condition, they move beyond the anecdotes, holding up the case principally as a vehicle to discuss general patterns of OCD thought and behavior.  I would expect it is the general pattern of OCD and its broad effects, rather than any of its unique consequences, which allow a reader to relate the condition to the same patterns, expressed differently, in their own lives.  aruffo (talk) 16:08, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compromise 

message: As a minor sufferer of OCD (I fiddle with my fingers lots in completive ways, and have to complete certain rituals with my feet in rhythmic patterns), I feel that it has contributed in certain ways in understanding rhythm and melody (creating a musical anomaly then solving it with a climax), and often considered it something that inspires me.  A brief google shows many articles on the internet on OCD and music suggesting a link between musical genius and OCD.  I'm no musical genius - I wasted it drinking too much booze, but I see my ticks as related to the way I resolve my musical opening bars with the closing bars.  In fact, I can see how it can make you artistic in many disciplines.  I spent a lot of times experimenting with odd time-signatures.  My finger twitching seems to always end with a final resolution, which is difficult to describe, but is always even.  My right hand compliments the left, but after an odd and quite creative sequence, with the right performing three to the left doing two, to the right doing one, the the left two.  etc.. etc..
There's nothing here in how OCD may affect art.  One says that "insanity is to art what garlic is to salad".  Perhaps a section should be added?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.224.22 (talk) 23:12, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  OCD and music 

message: I suggest that an administrator semi-protects the article Obsessive-compulsive disorder due to the longlasting continous vandalism to the page by ip-users which is obvious from a quick look at this article's edit-history. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ekologkonsult (talk • contribs) 
:I also think there is a lot of vandalism, tried a request at the noticeboard, been protected for a short while, but it is just never going to get long or indefinite protection. Clark89 (talk) 02:55, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semiprotection against continous ip-vandalism 

message: a patient should be concerned that intrusive thoughts are dangerous if the person doesn't feel upset by the thoughts, rather finds them pleasurable; has ever acted on violent or sexual thoughts or urges;
If read literally, this means that intrusive thougths are dangerous for all normal adults.
That is -- assuming they "have ever acted on sexual thoughts or urges". Which most people do regularily....
Rephrase ?
--Eivind Kjørstad (talk) 08:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  strange statement 

message: I added an infobox with the ICD-10 link, feel free to update the rest of the fields :)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sradevic (talk • contribs) 11:09, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  added infobox 

message: Examples of manifestation seem to be conspicuously absent. Perhaps a section. Just a thought thought thought.--Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:21, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Common examples 

message: From the opening sentence of the article, "Obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) is a mental disorder most commonly characterized by intrusive, repetitive thoughts resulting in compulsive behaviors and mental acts that the person feels driven to perform, according to rules that must be applied rigidly, aimed at preventing some imagined dreaded event; however, these behaviors or mental acts are not connected to the imagined dreaded event," the clause, "aimed at preventing some imagined dreaded event", strikes me as odd if not inaccurate.
I don't want to delete it right off the bat, but are there any references for it? From my own understanding, a sufferer of OCD simply acts compulsively because he or she "has to", not because of some goal or "dreaded event". Does anyone care to comment?  Damienivan (talk) 18:15, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sometimes people just feel they "have" to do something without being able to articulate why, but other times they imagine a causal relationship between performing a compulsion and dealing with a more well-defined obsession. For example, someone might wash his hands repeatedly in order to rid them of germs that he supposes might kill him otherwise, or might check 10 times to see that the stove is off in fear of burning down the house. There are some lists of common obsessions and compulsions here and here. Cosmic Latte (talk) 18:24, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd agree that it is inaccurate to state broadly that a "dreaded event" is an integral part of OCD.  It may be that a particular recurring stimulus (e.g. noticing one's hands) causes anxiety which prompts an obsessive response; in such a case it is a condition, rather than a terminal event, which is supposedly being attended to.  aruffo (talk) 10:40, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The key point that has to get across is that in nearly every case of OCD, attempting to suppress the thought or behavior produces intense anxiety -- it isn't just an emotionless robotic repetition. Looie496 (talk) 16:51, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That is a good point-- and I have to agree that the behavior is not necessarily performed with any kind of "dreaded event" in mind... at least, not anything more dreaded than the consequence of not performing the behavior, which may be dreaded, but is not necessarily an "event".  aruffo (talk) 02:28, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I had a go at the wording here. See what you think. Cosmic Latte (talk) 16:12, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to acknowledge that I think Damienivan was correct to recommend its deletion, rather than its revision-- as the statement is not universally true of the disorder, it is an inappropriate level of detail for the introduction to an article.  I don't think anyone would disagree that dreaded events, intrusive thoughts, etc, are frequently present in cases of OCD, but attempting to explain or elaborate upon those particular manifestations seems better handled in the body text somewhere.  aruffo (talk) 20:33, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weird/Inaccurate clause in head of article? 

message: Hi all,
Came across this OCD wiki page, and reorganized a bit dividing it into OCD with and without overt compulsions. 
This is generally the distinction used in scientific literature, which I try to contribute to in my professional life, and I think it will solve a lot of the discussion about the whole "pure-O" thing (a laymen's term), as well enhancing the organization of the paper. 
Keep in mind, the diagnosis of OCD does not necessarily include overt compulsions, and OCD without overt compulsions is a major subtype of OCD in the clinical literature (as is OCD with overt compulsions)
The OCD with overt compulsions section would benefit from more info on checking compulsions, which is another major subtype next to washing.
:Your edits look mostly reasonable to me (a non-expert on this topic), although I have never heard the term "pure-O" and would like to see a source for it.  Also, please remember to sign your talk page edits by adding ~~~~ at the end; thanks. Looie496 (talk) 18:31, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ocd with and without and overt compulsions 

message: Wondering if OCD suffers9as am I!) are more prone to addictions?Thanks! Andreisme (talk) 19:10, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not the place for topic questions, try the Reference Desk. Looie496 (talk) 19:31, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

text: The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the proposal was support for move.--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 01:48, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are OCD suffers also more prone to addiction? 

message: According to MOS:ENDASH, the title of this article should be "Obsessive–compulsive disorder" (with an en dash), not "Obsessive-compulsive disorder" (with a hyphen). I noticed this problem when reading the following recent review, which used the en dash:
* 
I propose to switch to using the en dash uniformly in this article, as per MOS and per usage in high-quality publications. Eubulides (talk) 08:00, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No comment, so I made the change to the contents. Next thing to do will be to rename the article so that the name contains an en dash rather than a hyphen; I'll wait for a bit before suggesting that. Eubulides (talk) 07:50, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  No further comment, so I'm now suggesting that the page be renamed to use an en dash rather than a hyphen. Eubulides (talk) 05:49, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree with the interpretation of WP:ENDASH, and suggest the same treatment for Obsessive-Compulsive Spectrum Disorder and Passive-aggressive behavior. Jafeluv (talk) 14:15, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  No problem as long as it doesn't break search functionality.  Need to make sure of that before making the change. Looie496 (talk) 17:52, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div>
I disagree with the results of this move request. Per WP:COMMONNAME, this article should be at Obsessive-compulsive disorder, as that is the form of dash that is used in most sources. – PeeJay 09:40, 28 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Technically, whatever sources use an endash (even if they're in the minority) are correct. "Obsessive–compulsive" implies something like "obsessive and/or compulsive", while a hyphen would indicate that "compulsive" is modified by "obsessive". But even though folks can perform compulsions in response to obsessions, they're not "obsessively compulsive" in the sense that a red-breasted robin is "redly breasted". My guess is that, even when people know the difference, they might gravitate toward hyphens out of sheer convenience. Cosmic Latte (talk) 22:22, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  En dash versus hyphen 

message: I added a separate small paragraph explaining that not all OCD patients understand their thoughts are not reality. This article works on the idea that ocd patients realize that their thoughts are irrational. This is not always the case, though when one can realize this they are starting the healing proscess. I am an OCD sufferer, and am not posting this point off of personal opinion, but the reality that the disorder confuses reality with the mysteries of intrusive thinking. One so involved in the thoughts can not see that they are just chemical disfunctions, and tend to think they are a horrible person. If anyone wants to contest this, they can feel free to fight this fact. (added by ).
:That makes a lot of sense, but in an article like this it is really important to have published sources to back up statements.  Otherwise there is no practical way to draw a line between sensible things such as what you wrote and the sorts of unsubstantiated speculations that are frequently inserted. Looie496 (talk) 16:26, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: a key aspect of OCD is that those with the condition recognise that their thoughts are thoughts - and not reality, althought the distinction can become blurred (i.e. the concept of irrational depends on your perspective).  Earlypsychosis (talk) 01:24, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That was the reason I performed a reversion, instead of just adding a FACTS tag.  If a key aspect of OCD is, as the referenced source indicates, that people are aware of their own irrationality, then lack of awareness must describe a condition that is not OCD.  If an assertion is made that lack of awareness is a characteristic of OCD, then cited evidence needs to be provided to support that contradictory claim.  The more likely truth, I'd guess, is that people who have OCD may also have associated conditions that include (or allow, or encourage) belief in irrational thoughts.  aruffo (talk) 13:58, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Egodystonic could do with some work Earlypsychosis (talk) 08:16, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Perceptions of reality 

message: Perhaps I should have brought this here before removing it, but I've removed this (Caffeine anaphylaxis-stage II: obsessive–compulsive disorder, Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients, April, 2004, by Ruth Whalen) source and the accompanying statement that caffeine causes OCD symptoms. The source itself is a letter to the editor. The letter was published (in the letters to the editor section) in the Townsend Letter for Doctors and Patients. I know little about this publication, but their byline appears to be "Examines medical alternatives from multiple traditions and disciplines."
The title of the article is "Caffeine anaphylaxis-stage II: obsessive-compulsive disorder - Letters to the Editor - Letter to the Editor". I have serious doubts as to whether or not this is a theory supported by research. I've found nothing from a peer reviewed journal, or even the popular press, that links caffeine anaphylaxis to OCD. Caffeine anaphylaxis is rare and, like most anaphylaxis, accute (Allergy. 2003 Jul;58(7):681-2.). While I don't doubt, in fact, I suspect there are studies that suggest a link between caffeine and OCD, this particular one does not meet WP:RS. Shadowjams (talk) 19:37, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caffeine sources 

message: Is it a sly Wikipedia editor's joke that "Obsessive-compulsive disorder" is a redirect to "Obsessive—compulsive disorder"?  Tempshill (talk) 05:12, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh. Looie496 (talk) 15:46, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hmm 

message: The Purely Obsessional OCD Article should be a considered for merging with the OCD article most academic sources don't differentiate Pure-O from O.C.D. they just refer to the sufferer as "Purely Obsesional person" or call it OCD without overt compulsions. See "The OCD workbook" By Bruce M. Hyman, Cherry Pedrick & "Coping with OCD" By Bruce M. Hyman, Troy DuFrene, Page 60.
This is also present here Obsessive-compulsive disorders By Fred Penzel 2000--87.202.88.193 (talk) 23:46, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I just noticed that there was a debate in this page over weather Pure-O exists, well it does and every OCD textbook makes references to cases without compulsions or without noticeable compulsions.--87.202.88.193 (talk) 23:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  The main article for OCD without overt compulsions is therefore Purely Obsessional OCD--79.131.172.118 (talk) 13:18, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  OCD/ Pure-o 

message: I am not an expert in this area, but it appears to me that as both OCD and OCPD have WP articles, it is helpful to add the hatnotes to clarify this and lead from each to the other. PamD (talk) 07:31, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hatnote added 

message: "Obsessive-compulsive disorder affects roughly six million Americans." How about the other people around the world?--88.229.255.129 (talk) 17:15, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can locate reliable published statistics for other countries, we should use them. Looie496 (talk) 14:41, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Six million sounds a little high, really. In any event, that sort of detail probably belongs in the epidemiology section. The lead was getting to be a little bloated, so I've had a go at tightening it. Cosmic Latte (talk) 09:21, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do only Americans suffer this disease? 

message: are they all really necessary? I understand the links to Intrusive thoughts and Neuropsychiatry, but the Biology of OCD, the Current diagnostic criteria for OCD and the Treatment of OCD are all subjects pertaining specifically to OCD, so why create additional pages for them? Wouldn't we just be reexplaining ourselves? MichaelExe (talk) 15:12, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The usual reason for creating sub-articles is to keep the main article from getting too long.  This article could probably be 50% longer before it got too unwieldy, so you're right for the moment, but might not be right if there is a substantial amount of more essential material missing currently. Looie496 (talk) 23:18, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Newly-Added Subarticles 

message: Do you think it would be wise to "protect" the article to prevent trolls and cyber-bullies alike from tampering with it?  Per instance, there's a man over in Norway that's constantly being harassed by a group of Canadians who made off with 4 kittens in 2007, saying he has the disorder, when by specification alone he does not.Protection of the article may work, if any vandalism attempt should be stopped.--205.214.245.39 (talk) 16:19, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia policy doesn't support "preventative protection", only protection in response to actual vandalism. Looie496 (talk) 20:03, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've considered nominating this page for protection a few times (are all the countless "weegee" edits somebody's idea of an inside joke?), but as of right now, even the ongoing vandalism probably isn't bad enough to warrant protection. But (to the original poster), if you feel that a WP user is being harassed or is harassing someone else, you can always mention it at WP:ANI. But if anyone is making any false or unverifiable claims on here about another living person, they can and should be reminded of the WP:BLP policy--and if that doesn't do any good, then there's always WP:BLPN. Cosmic Latte (talk) 13:54, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protection of the article 

message: I've tried to make Compulsive behavior look halfway decent, but in all honesty, this unsourced stub says nothing that isn't or can't be covered in here. I wouldn't delete this spinoff by any means, because it's a plausible search term, and because, I suppose, it's possible that someone, someday could write an article about non-obsessive or non-clinical compulsions. But until that day comes, or at least until this article becomes more presentable and better-sourced, I don't see how the Compulsive behavior article really adds or encourages any material that isn't or shouldn't be in the OCD article. In fact, as it stands, the CB article looks like little more than a dictionary definition, and so belongs over yonder. So, does anybody else think that the CB page should be redirected to the OCD one? Cosmic Latte (talk) 13:40, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I favor making this a redirect. Looie496 (talk) 18:19, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Obsessive–compulsive spectrum and Impulse control disorder could probably be merged into this page, too, or at least merged with each other, considering impulse control disorder is within the obsessive-compulsive spectrum. MichaelExe (talk) 00:53, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed redirect 

message: Heard (didnt see in article) That bacterial infections in childhood or in Adults affecting the brain. Could induce OCD.Is this so?TheStrikingsword (talk) 09:48, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's true. I'm reluctant to add it as it really needs someone familiar with the  topic who can assess the material. --Old Moonraker (talk) 11:41, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Our article on PANDAS covers that story -- maybe for now a pointer to it from within this article would suffice. Looie496 (talk) 17:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Although I'm editing from a position of ignorance here, User:Looie496's suggestion seems a good way forward: PANDAS added, with ref. --Old Moonraker (talk) 13:11, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heard that childhood/adult bacterial inefections may induce OCD? 

message: I added only stepping on sertain color tiles to the list of compulsions because I, as a sufferer of OCD have experienced and discussed with a few of my friends who also soposedly have it.  I also talked about it with a psychiatrist who said that it was not uncommon.  I just hope that this edit is considered verifiable and not concidered original research. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.226.111.151 (talk) 23:08, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm reasonably sure that that's verifiable; regardless, I don't think that anybody would deny or even doubt that it can be a symptom. The article needs several improvements, and although more thorough sourcing is one of them, greater clarity is another, and your edit seems to have made the sentence clearer. Even if it is unsourced for now, and even if it therefore looks potentially "original", we can ignore the rules (or can at least not over-emphasize them) when strict adherence to the rules only hinders progress on the article. So I, for one, have no problem with your edit. Cosmic Latte (talk) 23:30, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

text: P.S. Even if you make an edit that eventually will get removed or changed, your edit may become the impetus for constructive discussions or revisions. One edit from one editor often inspires another edit from a different editor. So be bold and feel free to set things in motion. :-) Cosmic Latte (talk) 17:03, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  edit 

message: This article needs some information about social or family influences in the development of the disease. Theres is a lot of research about it. 186.80.153.41 (talk) 04:54, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes please excellent idea.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:52, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cause 

message: The WHO map right there at section one isn't really explained. I would assume the red areas are the bad ones, but that requires an assumption unwarranted by the evidence. Does clicking on the map cause it to be explained? (I've not clicked on it myself)
Unless I am missing something (say, perhaps somewhere in the article itself the map is referred to and explained), I suggest that perhaps something could be added to the caption explaining what the colors represent. --Neptunerover (talk) 06:13, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't it have been easier to click on the map than to type this question?  Regards, Looie496 (talk) 17:11, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  map colors? 

message: It appears some overeager editor was spamming anxiety-disorder articles to promote the TV show, which of course was automatically reacted to (and removed) as vandalism.  If this is actually a genuine nonfiction documentary-type series about OCD and its relatives, airing on a legitimate cable station, I would concur that it deserves the same level of attention here as does Monk.  aruffo (talk) 21:52, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Im going to disagree with this one. Monk, even though he displays extreme OCD, uses it in a humorous way and also uses it to unrealistically solve crimes in minutes that would have normally taken months to solve, which is relatively innacurate. a person with OCD is most likely afraid of the world, would not touch random car antennas because of germaphobia, and would not go into a sewer to rescue a friend. A Word Of Advice From A Beast: Don't Be Silly, Wrap Your Willy! 02:21, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obsessed TV show 

message: I agree with CosmicLatte that the Jack Nicholson edit was in good faith.  The editor was probably not aware of the previous conversation about that particular section of the article becoming a dumping ground for every example that anyone could list of celebrities who exhibited OCD tendencies in some manner (real or fictional).  The article linked to made a specific point about movies' influence on society, and this point, rather than the trivial fact that an actor portrayed a person, is relevant to this article.  aruffo (talk) 11:31, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I prefer your phrasing over the earlier versions (my own included). Cosmic Latte (talk) 19:28, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actors etc 

message: The American Psychiatric Association has not released its Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders into public domain, but claims copyright. The Wikimedia Foundation has received a letter of complaint (Ticket:2010030910040817, for those with access) about the use of their diagnostic criteria in this and a number of other articles. Currently, this content is blanked pending investigation, which will last approximately one week. Please feel free to provide input at the copyright problems board listing during that time. Individuals with access to the books would be particularly welcome in helping to conduct the investigation. Assistance developing a plan to prevent misuse of the APA's material on Wikipedia projects would also be welcome. Thank you.  Moonriddengirl (talk) 13:58, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no problem, at least on this article. I've explained my position in more detail on the complaint page. Cosmic Latte (talk) 15:27, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for checking. As I indicated at that subpage, I'm a bit hampered by an inability to access the source. While this article was specifically noted in the complaint as having copyright concerns, I have restored it for now pending some specific details on what text is contested. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 20:09, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright problems with diagnostic criteria 

message: What does "preocupation with religious impulses etc." mean?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.123.44.210 (talk) 08:23, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no idea--someday I'll have to ask a Whirling Dervish with OCD. But for the meantime, I've rephrased the line so that it should make more sense. Cosmic Latte (talk) 02:00, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Impulses 

message: ..There was a segment on the page titled "Law" which mentioned some jurisdictions passing legislation infringing on the civil freedoms of those suffering with OCD but with a "citation needed" posted afterward..living in a rural region & having dealt with both covert & overt discrimination of my OCD it would be nice to know some legitimate sources of legal information to this effect which could make life here easier for me here as there is virtually no advocacy available to me in this cultural wasteland where I am by circumstances forced to live now..thank you for any help anyone can render..64.85.223.59 (talk) 00:58, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Law & the rights of Obsessive-Compulsives 

message: It is confusing to switch terms from one sentence to the next. Pick one term and stick to it. If "anxiety disorder" is the more accurate term, then use it. I understand that the current use of "anxiety" in the first sentence makes it awkward to use the term "anxiety disorder" there but I don't think the solution is to introduce the term in the second sentence. Address the repetitive use of the word "anxiety" in the first sentence by either breaking that sentence into two sentences or replacing the other uses with something else.This is writing problem that needs to be addressed and edit warring and stubbornly sticking with what's there is not going to fix it. I'd rather see the awkward repetition rather than the confusing use of terminology:
:Obsessive–compulsive disorder (OCD) is an anxiety disorder characterized by intrusive thoughts that produce anxiety, by repetitive behaviors aimed at reducing anxiety, or by a combination of such thoughts (obsessions) and behaviors (compulsions). The symptoms may include ...
Jojalozzo 16:33, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally (obviously) I prefer to first say more generally "mental disorder" and then a bit more specifically "anxiety disorder", but if you find it confusing, edit it and I won't revert to the previous definition. :) Lova Falk talk 17:42, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If you feel it is important to mention "mental disorder" I am ok with it, but as it is now it is not clear that when we introduce "anxiety disorder" we are not contradicting the previous sentence but being more specific. We appear to be violating the technical writing guideline that suggests introducing a term and then sticking with it. It would help the uninformed reader if we explained naturally and unobtrusively why the second term is useful in describing OCD. I find it interesting that the editors of Anxiety disorder did not find it necessary to mention Mental disorder in the lead of that article. Jojalozzo 21:44, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not important to me, I just liked it, but please make your edit! Lova Falk talk 10:10, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem with the lead: mental disorder - anxiety disorder. 

message: The neurotransmitter section is littered by the subject of dopamine addiction which is forcibly linked to OCD by a questionable theory which hasn't been validated by relevant citations. The suggestion is that people with OCD repeatedly think of rewarding thoughts to satisfy dopamine addiction, which supposedly explains the heightened levels of dopamine in the brains of OCD patients. This is ludicrous because normally people with OCD who have reoccurring thoughts have negative thoughts, not rewarding ones. After the termination of obsessive thoughts perhaps there is a heightened level of dopamine which brings a patient a sense of relief, but it seems very unlikely that the obsessive thoughts themselves raise dopamine levels. The entire part that focuses on dopamine and the pathology of dopamine addiction needs to be deleted. 98.201.105.130 (talk) 23:38, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for being so observant! You are absolutely right, and I deleted most of that section.Lova Falk talk 17:21, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  dopamine 

message: Wiki Guidelines state links should be added if they are"accessible to the reader", if site content is proper, and if the link is likely to remain functional. Not a long list here, only 2 links
The following links should be added:
:ocdchicago.org,
:ocd educationstation.org
Beehivenoqueen (talk) 02:29, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You're misreading the WP:External links page.  What you are quoting is not a list of criteria that justifies adding a link.  They are questions to be considered AFTER the proper criteria have been satisfied.  Look further for the actual link criteria, which these proposed links do not satisfy.   aruffo (talk) 03:00, 11 August 2010 (UTC)

text: See Wikipedia:MEDMOS#External_links; those orgs can be added to DMOZ, which is linked in the External links.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:02, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What to link: Wikipedia:External_links 

message: It has been proposed at Wikipedia talk:Invitation to edit that, because of the relatively high number of IP editors attracted to Obsessive compulsive disorder, it form part of a one month trial of a strategy aimed at improving the quality of new editors' contributions to health-related articles. It would involve placing this:You can edit this page. Click here to find out how.at the top of the article, linking to this mini-tutorial about MEDRS sourcing, citing and content, as well as basic procedures, and links to help pages. Your comments regarding the strategy are invited at the project talk page, and comments here, regarding the appropriateness of trialling it on this article, would be appreciated. Anthony (talk) 11:53, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The list of articles for the trial is being reconsidered, in light of feedback from editors, and should be ready in a day or two. If you have any thoughts about the Invitation to edit proposal, they would be very welcome at the project talk page. Anthony (talk) 14:39, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The trial will be starting in a few days. Anthonyhcole (talk) 09:43, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Invitation to edit" trial 

message: I just came across the oddest entry at a disambiguation page, CDO, linking to the present article with the description "the alphabetically sorted version of Obsessive-compulsive disorder, a psychological disorder". Is this a joke? __meco (talk) 16:49, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "the alphabetically sorted version" 

message: In your article, it states that one of the addictive behaviors that is often associated with obsessive compulsive disorder is overeating. Could the opposite, aneorexia, also be a side effect. My cousin has ocd and had a near-fatal bought with aneorexia, and was started supposedly because she heard people talking about her weight, causing her to obsess about her own weight. Is this also a common and likely connection?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryantheincredible (talk • contribs) 01:29, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overeating and ocd 

message: I was able to edit this page back in October and now I can't edit it now. What can I do to be able to edit this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Curten jb (talk • contribs) 18:04, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It has been semi-protected. Once you've made ten edits to unprotected articles you'll be able to edit here. It's a measure applied to some heavy-vandalism pages. --Anthonyhcole (talk) 10:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Can't I Edit This Page 

message: Under External Links, would you please add the IOCDF, Internation Obsessive Compulsive Disorder Foundation.
It is a very important place for people dealing with OCD, themselves or in their family, to go to for acurate, up to date information and is run by the TOP EXPERTS on OCD in not only this country but the WORLD.
68.37.132.124 (talk) 20:38, 13 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done. Wikipedia is not a linkfarm and can't link to every possible informative website out there. We have a link to the Open Directory Project page for OCD and this link is included there, which is more than sufficient. --ICYTIGER'SBLOOD 01:30, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 68.37.132.124, 13 February 2011 

message: Like some commentators on this page, I've been diagnosed with OCD. Like some commentators, I'm also familiar with the research litature. I don't see anything offensive or inaccurate about the hand-washing picture. But that, in my estimation, is the problem. The picture is not offensive enough, and at the same time it's just too accurate:
*Unoffensiveness: OCD itself is "offensive". Sufferers literally "take offense" to their condition insofar as they feel hurt or injured by it. In clinical settings, this sort of "offense" often goes by the name of "subjective distress". The current picture, in stark contrast to the topic that it's illustrating, is benign; it betrays no suffering, except perhaps for the distress that accompanies the realization that your life as a contagious pathogen on some guy's palm is over. Indeed, this article attempts to introduce a (psycho)pathological condition with the exact same picture as adorns the article on hygeine!
*Accuracy: The picture strikes me as myopic, both in a literal sense (as a photograph) and in a figurative one (as a symbol):
**Literal myopia: Hands do not have OCD; humans do. Hands have warts and germs and hangnails. The picture has something of a dermatological quality, I suppose, and lacks the sort of existential or expressive hues which may be found atop the major depressive disorder and anxiety disorders articles. To be sure, neither van Gogh nor Munch set out to illustrate the DSM, and neither man's selected work (At Eternity's Gate and The Scream, respectively) exactly lend themselves to easy "diagnosis". Both artists, however, demonstrated in these works that they could "zoom out" far enough from symptom and from syndrome that they could pinpoint the exact location of pathology and misery as nothing less than the entire human organism as it "hosts" its "illness" in a given setting or environment. The hand-washing illustration could very well be the perfect picture of OCD. But this compact, clear, and "nice and clean" (no pun intended) imagery does not inherently convey that something is off-kilter. "Common knowledge" notwithstanding, it is only in the context of the article that such an image can become discernably relevant to the very concept that it is supposed to make at least a little more accessible from the beginning! The reader is obliged to appreciate the symptom in terms of the syndrome and vice versa, and is thereby trapped within a hermeneutic circle from the outset.
**Figurative myopia: I know, it's difficult to illustrate an abstract concept, especially given the tangibility of images and the intangibility of ideas. OCD, however, is decidedly bicameral, for even by name it is a creature of cognition and behaviour juxtaposed. Hand-washing might indeed be emblematic of compulsions. However, since OCD's compulsions are, by nature, logical misrepresentations of OCD's obsessions, hand-washing makes for more synecdoche than symbolism: Hand-washing is to OCD as "one small step for a man" is to "one giant leap for mankind"; the connections may be recognizable and even famous, but this does not necessarily mean that the connected entities are semiotically proportionate.
I don't claim to have the slightest clue what an ideal picture for the introduction to this article would look like; rather, I maintain that it has yet to be discovered or suggested, and I encourage further exploration in a continued (if confusing) quest to find an image which may compensate for any superfcial irreverence or imprecision by embodying a deeper logic and more sensitive aesthetics than those apparent in the current choice.
With a new image of this sort the lead should spare the reader from the smallest hermeneutic circle and from the slightest semiotic scramble. Cosmic Latte (talk) 23:56, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The picture, revisited 

message: someone deleted the psychology section??  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.7.103.230 (talk) 19:35, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you saying that a section used to be present but is no longer there?  If so, you should be able to discover what happened by looking through the history of the article. Looie496 (talk) 19:43, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The section heading is there (above "biological"), but there is no content. The content that was there in the recent history really wasn't useful. The heading could be removed, but I think there should be some information on this. Don't have time to write it myself right now. If someone is interested to work on it, the article on intrusive thoughts has a pretty good description of the psychological processes that have been theorised to cause intrusive thoughts to develop into OCD - this could perhaps be reworked as a starting point to fixing the psychological factors section. Interlope (talk) 03:18, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  psychology section is missing 

message: The external links section should include a link to OCD Chicago. It is one of the biggest resources on the web for information on the subject of OCD. 
The link is: http://www.ocdchicago.org/
Dougbertram (talk) 16:18, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, that's too local; see Wikipedia:WikiProject Countering systemic bias. If you disagree, please discuss it here and if there's consensus to add it, re-request. Also please refer to WP:EL - it'd have to be justified in those terms. Does it really ?  Chzz  ►  07:18, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from , 20 October 2011 

message: The reference to Melvin Udall in As Good as it Gets having OCD is not entirely accurate (despite a line in the movie mentioning OCD), and I think that providing an inaccurate example will leave readers with a false impression of the disorder. Udall more likely suffered from OCPD than OCD, most notably because of the egosyntonic nature of his symptoms. He never seemed to have a problem with his behavior, whereas someone with OCD would suffer distress from their obsessions or rituals. In contrast, he alienated many people around him with his intolerance and rigidity, which are more characteristic of OCPD. I think that the reference should stay in the article but be modified to mention the OCPD diagnosis, in order to most effectively combat the misinformation within the movie. EriktheRed53 (talk) 05:25, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  As Good as it Gets 

message: "The phrase obsessive–compulsive has become part of the English lexicon, and is often used in an informal or caricatured manner to describe someone who is excessively meticulous, perfectionistic, absorbed, or otherwise fixated.[4] The term obsession came from the latin terms “obsessio” and “posessio” were commonly used during warfare. “Obsessio” means that a group of soldiers have the desire to take over a town or city. When the soldiers successfully took over the city, they cheered “Posessio.” This metaphor was often related to the devil taking over one’s soul. The difference is possessive people’s minds were completely taken over. Obsessive people knew their minds were being controlled, but did not know how to stop the images in their heads. “Obsession is a well- known category involving doing or thinking one thing too much, being aware of that activity, but being unable to stop it." Davis, Lennard J. Obsession: A HistoryThese signs are present in OCD, a person who exhibits them does not necessarily have OCD, and may instead have obsessive–compulsive personality disorder (OCPD), an autism spectrum disorder, or no clinical condition"
Here, the main problem has been put in bold. This is both unmentioned in the OCPD article as well as being an unfounded and unsupported statement. Either back it up with a suitable citation and add it to the OCPD article as well, or remove the claim entirely.
--83.183.127.178 (talk) 21:11, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a medical ref with a PMID? Thanks. --49.244.148.131 (talk) 09:01, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit needed in top summary. (22/11/11) 

message: There is an important need to replace the ERP treatment (described as the most effective treatment) with the even more effective four step treatment by Dr. Jeffery Schwartz described in his book "Brain Lock". Foxbat21 (talk) 05:34, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I noticed that too - the article mentions exposure therapy but not Schwartz' method, which involves differentiating the disorder from the self, as well as distraction. 50.92.209.189 (talk) 17:24, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need to add short description of most effective OCD treatment 

message: I have just had a look at your page about recovery from ocd - saying periods of ocd abating is uncommon !! there are people like my self who have recovered from the illness. I feel that this is not being highlighted in this article people do recover from this illness. I think you should have look at stats on recovery. thanks...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.174.248 (talk) 19:45, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Where are those stats on recovery? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:52, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  OCD recovery - 

message: I suggest that the following information should be included as relevant to the entry on OCD:
PANS is an acronym for Pediatric Acute-Onset Neuropsychiatric Syndrome. This diagnosis is used to describe children who have "abrupt, dramatic onset of obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD) or severely restricted food intake" coincident with the presence of two or more neuropsychiatric symptoms.Werelived (talk) 01:49, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not a diagnosis: it is a hypothesis intended for research purposes (see the cited source), about which there is one and only paper to date. Not only is it not a diagnosis-- it isn't even proposed for DSM5.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 03:27, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need to add relevant information and link to PANS 

message: I notice the external links section is extremely concise, for obvious reasons. So I'll just ask: any support for adding this online NFB documentary as an external link? thanks, Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:01, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''OCD: The War Inside'' 

message: I just read this article to see if their were other names for OCD, but the sexual obsession paragraph (second paragraph under “Obsessions”), was rather unnecessary. 
I am aware that some people with OCD experience sexual, intrusive thoughts, those are some that I get, as well), but it's not an obsession; when I listen to my OCD, I am making a concious decission to do so, in hope that it will stop the anxiety. My intrusive thoughts, however, are something I can never control. I try as hard as I can to get them out of my mind, but I don't have control over it. It's not something I can say “no” to like my OCD (you can say no, it's just extremely difficult), it's as if someone else is controlling my mind. 
As to the comment of obsessing over what ones sexual orientation is, many people do, not just the ones with OCD. 
But what really bothers me about these comments on “sexual obsession” is that, it is all intrusive thoughts. All though I am very aware intrusive thoughts occurs in many OCD patients, intrusive thoughts aren't always sexual. 
My OCD gives me many intrusive thoughts; whenever I see someone, a derogatory term based on their ethnicity comes to my mind. I'm not racist; I can't control it. Intrusive thoughts can include thoughts of murder. I know people who keep imagining their loved ones dying, some even imagining that they are actually killing their loved ones. It's not them, it's their intrusive thoughts, brought on by their OCD. 
Excuse my rant, but the point I am trying to make with it is that, all though it makes sense to mention these sexual thoughts, it should be specified that some people with OCD have intrusive thoughts, which I assume would have its own page, which then specifies the different types of thoughts. If it's really necessary, then, when mentioining intrusive thoughts, put down “sexual, violent, etc.” or something like that. 98.217.230.157 (talk) 20:26, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sexual obsession 

message: As a person who has been diagnosed with obsessive-compulsive disorder, I would like to respectfully object to the hand-washing photo used at the top of this article. Its prominence and placement appears to me to be perpetuating a stereotype of OCD, namely the stereotype that we're all compulsive hand-washers. Because of this, and also because of how it so narrowly represents merely one manifestation of the disorder, I'd like to suggest that the photo be either removed or replaced. Any thoughts? Chenmaoen (talk) 02:55, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I also like that image. Can we legally use it in Wikipedia? Jojalozzo 05:35, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: I really think that this article is too short. It doesn't give much information about OCD, just how to supposedly "cure" it.
What I mean to say is that it needs more info. Colabcalub (talk) 01:12, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extension...? 

message: Clomipramine injections as cited here: http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=204286
Mind you the methodology is changing as it is still under testing and refinement. I will be receiving treatment via "home-infusions" soon.
It is currently not FDA approved.
 
- Thank you. 
Williash03 (talk) 00:30, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please add Clomipramine injections, "infusions", to the list of treatments. 

message: Add Clomipramine infusions under treatments ("Introduction of a solution into the body through a vein for therapeutic purposes." - http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/infusion). 
Clomipramine injections as cited here: http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=204286 
Mind you the methodology is changing as it is still under testing and refinement. I will be receiving treatment via "home-infusions" soon. It is currently not FDA approved.
- Thank you.
Williash03 (talk) 02:34, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you include the whole entry you want introduced; ie. if you want extra information, please add it under this message. Thanks, Mdann52 (talk) 10:32, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 7 July 2012 

message: The sentences are: "OCD is the fourth most common mental disorder, and is diagnosed nearly as often as asthma and diabetes mellitus.[1] In the United States, one in 50 adults suffers from OCD.[2]"
The first sentence is blatantly false. OCD has a lifetime prevalence of about 2-3% (http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=494440), which is less than almost all anxiety disorders and certainly far from being the 4th most prevalent mental disorder (http://archpsyc.jamanetwork.com/article.aspx?articleid=208678). The second sentence is thus also false, and misleading since it sounds like point prevalence, although this would also be false. I don't have the knowledge to make these changes properly with citations in wikipedia, but someone please do so! OCD is closer to being the 20th most prevalent mental disorder. The epidemiology section seems to be more accurate.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.67.91.35 (talk) 18:41, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed those two sentences.  The second one may be more or less accurate if qualified appropriately, but the source given for it is not strong enough for such a statement in an article such as this.  It would of course be nice to give a better figure there, but it is better to have no information than misinformation. Looie496 (talk) 23:23, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  First and second sentences of second paragraph are false or misleading 

message: The atypical antipsychotics olanzapine, quetiapine, and risperidone have also been found to be useful as adjuncts to an SSRI in treatment-resistant OCD. However, these drugs are often poorly tolerated, and have significant metabolic side effects that limit their use. None of the atypical antipsychotics have demonstrated efficacy as a monotherapy.[55]
Edit: The atypical antipsychotics olanzapine, quetiapine, risperidone and ariprazole have also been found to be useful as adjuncts to an SSRI in treatment-resistant OCD. However, these drugs are often poorly tolerated, and some have significant metabolic side effects that limit their use. None of the atypical antipsychotics have demonstrated efficacy as a monotherapy.[55]
The atypical anti psychotic aripiprazole (Abilify) has a different mechanism of action than the other antipsychotics. It has been shown to be antiobsessive as compared to the other atypical antipsychotics. The atypical anti psychotics each have a different side-effect profile. 
Reference: http://pharmacy.oregonstate.edu/drug_policy/sites/default/files/pages/dur_board/newsletter/osdr_articles/volume1/osdr_v1_i1.pdf
 
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Reference: Psychol Med. 2011 Nov;41(11):2361-73. Epub 2011 Apr 5.
Antiserotonergic antipsychotics are associated with obsessive-compulsive symptoms in schizophrenia.
Schirmbeck F, Esslinger C, Rausch F, Englisch S, Meyer-Lindenberg A, Zink M.
Source
Central Institute of Mental Health, Department of Psychiatry and Psychotherapy, Mannheim, Germany. 
:Clin Pract Epidemiol Ment Health. 2011;7:107-11. Epub 2011 May 27.
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:Aripiprazole augmentation in patients with resistant obsessive compulsive disorder: a pilot study.
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:Delle Chiaie R, Scarciglia P, Pasquini M, Caredda M, Biondi M.
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:Department of Psychiatry and Psychological Medicine, SAPIENZA University of Rome, Viale dell'Università, 30 - 00185 - Rome, Italy.
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:Antipsychotic augmentation is an effective treatment intervention for Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) patients resistant to Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors (SSRI) agents. This pilot study was conducted to evaluate the effectiveness and tolerability of Aripiprazole for the augmentation of standard treatments in patients with resistant OCD.
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:Twenty patients diagnosed with OCD according to DSM-IV TR criteria and having a history of resistance to standard pharmacological treatment were included in the study. Aripiprazole was added to ongoing SSRI or clomipramine treatment with a starting dose of 5 mg/day and titrated up to a maximum of 20 mg/day (mean dose 12.62 mg ± 4.25). Efficacy was assessed with the Yale-Brown obsessive compulsive scale (Y-BOCS) and the Clinical Global Improvement-severity scale (CGI-S) at baseline and at week 12 of Aripiprazole augmentation. Side effects were monitored by the Udvalg for Kliniske Undersogelser (UKU) side effect rating scale.
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:All 20 subjects enrolled in our study completed the full 12-week course of treatment. A significant improvement over the 12-week study period was observed (paired t-test for mean Y-BOCS total score at week 12 as compared with baseline - all patients: t = 13.146, d.f. = 19, p= 0.0001). Aripiprazole was generally well tolerated and no changes were observed in vital signs. The most commonly observed side effects after the introduction of the augmenting agent included: akathysia, nausea/vomiting, hyperkinesia, tension/inner unrest, tremors, asthenia/lassitude/increased fatiguability.
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:Although results of this pilot study are preliminary and require confirmation in randomized controlled trials, our experience suggested that Aripiprazole is effective and well-tolerated as an augmenting agent in patients with treatment resistant OCD.
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Gomarg100 (talk) 12:34, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aripiprazole as an antiobsessive 

message: Please include http://www.beyondocd.org to to included in the external links section because the non-profit organization is a valuable resource for people wanting to know more about Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and people suffering from the disorder. 
Mfoy1234 (talk) 17:41, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not familiar with the policy regarding inclusion of links to support resources like this. However, I noticed that there's a link to the Open Directory Project on the article page now. Have you submitted this website for inclusion there? --Aurochs (Talk | Block) 18:18, 30 August 2012 (UTC)

text: Not done:. I don't see this as meeting the criteria at WP:EL. I recommend submitting this website at Open Directory Project per above. —KuyaBriBriTalk 18:49, 30 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 30 August 2012 

message: In the "Neurotransmitters Role" Section
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PLEASE CHANGE
"Differences in other parts of the brain and an imbalance of brain chemicals, especially serotonin and dopamine, may also contribute to OCD.[42]"
TO
"Differences in other parts of the brain and an imbalance of brain chemicals, especially serotonin, dopamine, and glutamate, may also contribute to OCD.[42]"
BECAUSE
Glutamate dysregulation in OCD has been demonstrated in research literature. 
CITATION FOR THIS WILL BE:
Pittenger, C, Bloch, MH, Williams, K. Glutamate abnormalities in obsessive-compulsive disorder: Neurobiology, pathophysiology, and treatment. Pharmacology & Therapeutics. 2011;132:314-332.
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In the "Medication" Section
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Please add citations listed to location [X] in the sentence mentioned below. There have been research on riluzole treatment in treatment-refractory OCD. The most definitive review of the literature to date includes the citation below. 
"Much current research is devoted to the therapeutic potential of the agents that affect the release of the neurotransmitter glutamate or the binding to its receptors. These include riluzole [X]..."
CITATION 1:
Pittenger, C, Coric, V, Banasr, M, Bloch, M, Krystal, JH, Sanacora, G. Riluzole in the treatment of mood and anxiety disorders. CNS Drugs. 2008;22:761-786.
CITATION 2:
http://www.ocfoundation.org/glutamate.aspx
Mkelly15 (talk) 21:36, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, though not exactly in the manner requested. I added the Pharmacol Ther reference and then found a second reference from Pharmacol Biochem Behav that I thought was relevant, so I added it as well. The Pharmacol Biochem Behav article also discussed riluzole, and it appeared to be of much better quality than anything CNS Drugs has ever published, so I used it instead for the second request. I did NOT add the ocfoundation link - the review article should be sufficient. --Aurochs (Talk | Block) 02:52, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

text: I am concerned that all of the references you're asking to include in the article have Christopher Pittenger as an author. I certainly won't add the CNS Drugs ref now.At any rate, it's not necessary by any stretch of the imagination for a reference to include the referenced fact as a CENTRAL point, especially when it's a review article. You will commonly find scientists citing articles to support facts or ideas that are not a central focus of the cited article. Also, in general, review articles are preferable to primary research for the purposes of Wikipedia (see primary sources).None of this is to say that I'm opposed to the inclusion of the Biological Psychiatry article, I just want to know why the Pharmacol Biochem Behav article is not enough. --Aurochs (Talk | Block) 02:41, 19 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 17 October 2012 

message: There are many people, both sufferers and mental health professionals who frankly balk at the notion that any form of mental illness is purely or even mostly caused by 'faulty biology' We see this as a highly damaging idea promoted by drug companies and pandered to by govenments only too happy not to have to face the problem of dysfunctional families within modern societies. There are many alternative opinions regarding the sources of OCD from a psychodynamic perspective, none of which are covered by theis article at all or even given a nod. Outrageous.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.5.6.123 (talk) 22:04, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You may want to ask the relevant WikiProject (probably WikiProject Psychology) if they can help. I'm personally not familiar enough with modern psychodynamic theory to be able to do the research and find the information you're asking for. --Aurochs (Talk | Block) 04:02, 3 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  No consideration to non-biological causes. 

message: In the "Society and Culture" section, the last bullet point reads, "OCD is one of the main themes in Xenocide, a SF novel by Orson Scott Card. Grammatically, it should be an SF novel or, for more clarity, a Science Fiction novel.
Idez (talk) 16:17, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Changed it to "a science fiction novel" (lowercase). Rivertorch (talk) 17:40, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 23 January 2013 

message: please consider adding the section to wiki article
I assume this short story depicts a neurotic (OCD) character http://www.online-literature.com/yeats/1107/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.197.156.14 (talk) 08:31, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  OCD in literature (or movies) 

message: As of DSM-V (May, 2013), OCD is no longer classified as an "anxiety disorder."  See: http://pro.psychcentral.com/2013/dsm-5-changes-obsessive-compulsive-and-related-disorders/004404.html#: "According to the American Psychiatric Association (APA), the publisher of the DSM-5, the major change for obsessive-compulsive disorder is the fact that it and related disorders now have their own chapter. They are no longer considered “anxiety disorders.” This is due to increasing research evidence demonstrating common threads running through a number of OCD-related disorders — obsessive thoughts and/or repetitive behaviors."
While nearly every source on the internet continues to describe OCD as an "anxiety disorder", as Wikipedia itself notes, the DSM provides the "standard criteria for the classification of mental disorders."  
I propose that this article at least acknowledge the changing classification of this disorder within the medical community.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.191.108.153 (talk) 07:04, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  OCD - an anxiety disorder? 

message: It would be too evil to have grammar errors on the OCD page. "However, OCD sufferers generally recognize their obsessions and compulsions as irrational, and may become further distressed by this realization." Nope, the last comma should be gone, and the page is locked for editing.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Eioehigksdg444444lskdfg (talk • contribs) 
:Fixed. EvergreenFir (talk) 03:53, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar Errors 

message: If you know how to edit the text of the article please include in the text the next important passage from the source:
There is no evidence that general counseling, psychodynamic therapy, psychoanalytic therapy, hypnotherapy, or transactional analysis are of any benefit in obsessive-compulsive disorder.Overcoming Obsessive Compulsive Disorder by David Veale and Rob Willson. New-York. 2008  p. 360
  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.90.71.16 (talk) 03:28, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ineffectiveness of some types of psychotherapies 

message: There is an error in the first word of the section "Other common comorbidities and OCD-like conditions" Somebody please fix it. 114.79.29.64 (talk) 06:39, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed, thanks. DoctorKubla (talk) 08:38, 2 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writing Error