Talk:Toyota 4Runner

message: I have some information regarding Toyota SUVs and trucks built in Japan and maybe other parts of Asia (possibly Europe as well but at this time I do not think so). I posted it as an update on the Toyota Land Cruiser article as well as other Toyota articles. I probably rushed to fast and I received feedback from some users regarding this. I probably should have looked for solid references (as was advised in the feedback). I do believe that at least some of the main points in my edit are fact and I do admit that some of it contains future speculation as well.
I invite all interested users to debate my proposed edit on these discussion pages to determine what parts of my edit (if any) should be posted on the official article. The information that is in my proposed post are things that potential customers of these products deserve to know.
Here is a draft of my proposed edit (that was posted on the Land Cruiser article as well as some other articles relating to Toyota SUVs and Trucks and then removed pending online debate):
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Toyota SUV’s and trucks (built in Japan and maybe other parts of Asia as well) including the Land Cruiser and 4Runner as well as others are used by Osama Bin Laden’s illegal Al Qaeda terrorist army and their Taliban partners. In the United States this is becoming controversial because Americans who buy these vehicles can be seen as extremely unpatriotic and honoring the enemy. As a result, these products might get vandalized in many different ways including spray paint, scratching, damaging lights, windows, etc. This will probably cause insurance premiums to increase in significant ways making these vehicles much more expensive to own and drive. Passions will most likely increase later in 2006 as the 5th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks approaches. There are also 2 movies about 9/11 that are planned for release in theaters in 2006. After this time the possibility of these vehicles being vandalized might increase (especially ones built after the 2006 model year) as their American owners might be viewed as being extremely unpatriotic and honoring the enemy of America and showing absolutely no respect for America. If this results in big insurance rate increases, the owners of these vehicles will be spending a lot more money to own and drive them.
(End of proposed draft edit)
As mentioned in this article I have information regarding these vehicles being used by Al-Qaeda and the Taliban on the battlefield in the same way that the Jeep was used by America and its allies against Nazi Germany and the Japanese Empire in World War 2. I have watched several news reports on news networks such as CNN, BBC, CBS, NBC, as well as others regarding Al-Qaeda and I have spotted these vehicles on these news reports many times (especially as the war on terror was first starting) including the Toyota Land Cruiser. Land Cruisers are easy to recognize. And I also saw what appear to be Toyota markings on many of these vehicles. I believe that this is something that people (especially potential customers for these vehicles) should know. I invite all interested users to join this debate and share any information you all might have. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wlossantos2004 (talk • contribs) 21:30, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  about a proposed edit to the Toyota 4Runner article 

message: The use of a vehicle by any particular user or groups of users, and scaremongering of this nature are not particularly pertinent to a page detailing the history of the vehicle.
Additionally to single out any single group is of no significance if it is not looked at in context. Many other groups in such regions also use these vehicles, the UN itself for one, and countless other individuals unaffiliated to any organizations who simply live and work in conditions which make these vehicles useful and desirable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Morr (talk • contribs) 20:04, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How relevant is this? 

message: The following has been added a few times by what appears to be unhappy 4Runner owners as anon IP.
:Although the fifth generation 4Runner has had numerous safety improvements, there is a large percentage of the U.S. customer base that is very disappointed in the optional navigation system. This vehicle option (at a cost of $2000+) has a larger 7" touch screen and integrated navigation system, but there have been numerous complaints made to Toyota due to intrusive safety programming changes. This intrusive software actually disables most functionality when the vehicle is traveling over 5 MPH. All features related to finding a destination are disabled, phone functionality is disabled, most radio and audio functionality is also disabled.
:All attempts to rectify this with Toyota Motor Company and the OEM Denso Electronics have been unsuccessful. Neither company will respond to customers complaining about this unnecessary and intrusive change, nor have they provided any options to customers who wish to disable the feature and allow use of the system while driving their vehicles. It is unclear why Toyota has made the decision to remain silent on this issue, and refuses to respond to complaints. It is also unclear why Toyota has imposed these unwarranted restrictions in the first place, considering the fact that there is no legal obligation for them to do so.
I have removed it each time because it is more about a personal complaint with the company rather than a fact that we can verify. If these editors wish to keep it then they need to provide a reliable reference. If the problem is as big as they say it is then surely one of the magazines or at least some newspapers will have a story on it.  Stepho  talk  05:26, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Stepho in keeping this out until it can be sourced. Having had to drive a Toyota Highlander a lot (with the same nav system) I also agree with Anon that this "safety feature" is INCREDIBLY annoying, to the point where I would never buy a vehicle equipped with it. However, I am not a trustworty source.  Mr.choppers | ✎  15:50, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The unhappy anon IP has added his complaint yet again. I've reverted it twice today, so I'll need help to avoid running foul of the 3 revert rule.  Stepho  talk  04:51, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It might be time to report this particular user.  Mr.choppers | ✎  09:50, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think he is vindictive. He just sounds frustrated that Toyota won't deal with his problem. Unfortunately WP is not the venue for discussing his problem - unless it is shown to be notable enough by being reported in the mainstream media. Getting him blocked will just turn him into another believer in the WP cabal.  Stepho  talk  15:22, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Navigation system complaint

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In the section of the Toyota Trekker, predecessor to the Toyota 4Runner, I would like to add an image. I found the image off Google and was going to add it, but became worried of issues related to copyright and if I would catch trouble. The site it was taken from is:
"http://www.toyotaoffroad.com/Articles/Toyota/Trekker/Trekker.htm"
The image link is:
http://www.toyotaoffroad.com/Articles/Toyota/Trekker/Images/rdunntrekker4.jpg
I downloaded it, but have no clue how to add it or if its even OK to add it :/ 
I intend to cause no issue and would like some advice from expert Wikipedians, Ty :) 
Ivan Zarco  (talk) 11:52, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:IUP for details of how to add images to Wikipedia. Unfortunately, since you don't own that image, you can't add it to WP (copyright violation). However, you might be able to convince the owner of the image to allow you permission.  Stepho  talk  13:56, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image for the Toyota Trekker 

message: There's a discussion of the source carsalesbase.com at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard#Carsalesbase.com. —Dennis Bratland (talk) 00:37, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I've read that discussion and tend to agree. I have my own database that I've developed to track U.S. Sales that I can provide to replace the Car Sales Base one. TurboManiacal (talk) 17:18, 3 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Carsalesbase.com

message: Its been 15 YEARS since the 5th generation released! Now we have a 6th generation at last! 172.103.254.229 (talk) 00:14, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent! Please feel free to update the details at Toyota_4Runner#Sixth_generation_(2024), supported by reliable references of course.  Stepho  talk  03:33, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Damn, I cant do it cuz im a 11 year old first of all and I have this filter my dad uses so can someone else do it? I cant wait to see the new model! 172.103.254.229 (talk) 14:30, 9 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Oh and by the way, I have an account. Tech and Car Savvy (talk) 14:36, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  6th generation 

message: Can anyone add the picture of the new 4Runner Tech and Car Savvy (talk) 15:34, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture