Talk:East End of London/Archive 1

message: Can anyone explain why the Gordon Riots are  labelled "racist" if they were against Roman Catholicism?
:I believe the Gordon Riots to have been against a perceived more tolerant attitude in government towards Catholics, at the time. The consequences were mainly felt - on the streets - by Irish catholics, who were coming in numbers to London to escape poverty and obtain work. Why ask here? Kbthompson 15:13, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Gordon riots

message: The East End has always been one of the poorest areas of London
While I agree the geographical boundaries have always been fuzzy; the term 'East End' itself seems to have been introduced in about 1888 (see "Fishman: East End 1888", an excellent source by a local academic & historian) 
It should also be noted that in tudor times many palaces and rich estates were located in the East End; it's decline as a political centre did not occur until the rising importance of the palace of Westminster, when the locus shifted west ward.
Kbthompson 15:13, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed the article to to make it clear in that the separate hamlets east of the tower did not join up into one big urban area until late 18th - early 19th century: "Stepney, Mile End and Bethnal Green, though still surrounded by fields, were distinctly urban communities by 1813, and the roads linking them to the City and each other ... were lined with long ribbons of terraced housing." (Inwood, A History of London, p 257). I can't find a definitive earliest use of the term, though; if Fishman's book has this info, it would be good to add it.--Squiddy | (squirt ink?) 11:16, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Do you think its a good idea to put a massive quote in the intro section? Anyway, I was thinking that a general 'East End' Category might be conceptually useful. More useful than the unlovely 'Tower Hamlets' and 'Hackney' categories which relate to a post 1965 local gov re-organisation, which may appeal to town-hall bureaucrats but has hardly any resonance with the people who live in the East-End or who are interested in its history and traditions. Colin4C 13:53, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I like the quote too, but I moved it before I read the talk page - I felt it fitted in nicely with the section on Location. I didn't realise it's placement was under discussion here, or I'd have mentioned it first. What do you think? --Squiddy | (squirt ink?) 16:48, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

text: The Ratcliffe (literally Red Cliff) Highway was high above the marsh, and probably an old Roman road. It is on the plateau at the top of the eponymous red (sandstone) cliff, which sloped steeply down to the marsh. I have actually been privileged to see said red cliff when on an archaelogical excavation below it (opposite St George's church) back in 2002...But yes, otherwise: 'roll out the barrel'...Colin4C 19:32, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Well Cable Street is parallel to the north, as for where our putative Roman road was heading, I'm not quite sure, but I guess it would be useful for a Roman coastal defence force along the north bank of the Thames: there was some suggestion that there was a Roman signal station where we were digging. But yes, the area to the south of the Highway was the primeval marsh, which was built up in the course of the centuries to its present extent. Also possibly of interest: Ratcliffe Highway was where Dr Jeckyll was returning from, (in the the guise of Mr Hyde) in an episode of the story of the same name and it seems that Oscar Wilde's Dorian Grey used to hang out in this same district. You just can't beat those East-End themed evenings! Colin4C 04:42, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Have you seen the alternative Ratliffe article The Highway? Would be nice to edit this particular bizarrely amorphous entry, but I fear one might go mad in the process...Colin4C 12:01, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: East End extent in time & space

message: Come to think of it, the City of London is a definite western boundary and the River Thames is a physical southern boundary. Should this go in the intro? MRSC • Talk 18:39, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wasn't the boundary of the City and the East-End marked by the 'Aldgate Pump' or somesuch???Colin4C 10:33, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: it was marked by Alegate itself (and the wall and ditch), which was taken down as an impediment to traffic at the end of the 18th century. Subsequent distances (milestones) to Essex, and the east, were measured from Aldgate pump; which itself has subsequently been moved. Kbthompson 11:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I think that's mostly right and dealt with on County Borough of West Ham and County Borough of East Ham - if you can find a reference of the local politician story, then add it to West Ham. These people were extraordinarily proud of their new 'suburbs'; you can see that in the way they approached the creation of their town halls. East Ham used to have a magnificent assembly room at the town hall, that was torn down, because it was going to cost a few grand to repair the roof. Kbthompson 23:49, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Formal boundaries

message: Overall, this article is very well written, includes useful, fair-use images, and informative. The citations are sufficient, although there are still a few minor gaps where citations should be added (first part of history section, population, and today), but serious issues with citations. The one sentence that really does need a reference is, "With rising costs elsewhere in the capital, the East End has become a desirable place for business." -- but I won't hold up GA status for this statement. Other than that, looks good! Dr. Cash 19:34, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Now we need to decide whether to head for FA status, or bring the West End article up to a similar standard! Kbthompson 19:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added an external link to the Victoria County History of the area (although I think the version available at British History Online is out of copyright and directly quotable)Esthameian 06:56, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Review

message: This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force. I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. The article history has been updated to reflect this review. Regards, Epbr123 21:47, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your constructive criticism. It is very helpful. Kbthompson 22:31, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Pass

message: I am working my way through and copy editing.  I hope this is useful.  
*Unless UK and U.S. punctuation differs in this respect, "which" should generally be preceded by a comma, while "that" should not.
*The punctuation in the footnotes has not been standardised and could use attention.  I will try to look for it as I go, but it would be worth a systematic examination, since this article will be FA-class soon.  -- Ssilvers 21:57, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that, someone has already pointed out my propensity to overcommerise (sic). Unfortunately, I used to mark up scripts and my use of commas tends to reflect the way I read it! I appreciate you taking the time, and my inclination was that people would follow the links for further explanation. To some extent the bottom three are examined further in the text (below), but perhaps copyhold could do with further explanation, and the link made specific for the others in the lead for the section. Kbthompson 00:10, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks to everyone who's ever had a hand in this article. Kbthompson (talk) 23:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Copy edits

message: :Image:1867 NationalStandardTheatre.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is  other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page.  Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot (talk) 04:41, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: -fixed, it's pd-old (1867)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbthompson (talk • contribs) 09:26, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:1867 NationalStandardTheatre.jpg

message: Text erased
Leon Trotsky, Joseph Stalin and Vladimir Lenin ... plot the October Revolution. 
I erased these lines for :
1/ It is a well known fact that Stalin never travelled out of the Russian Empire. 
2/ In 1906, nobody could "plot the 1917 October Revolution".
3/ Iskra was a newspaper, not a party. The wikipedia page about the Russian Social-Democratic Party tells that the 1903 meeting was in Belgium.
I do not know when and were Trotsky and Lenin have been in the London East End, but certainly it is possible to find it. 
ttotto             23 February 2008
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Ttotto (talk • contribs) 05:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your comments, I'll chase it up when things quieten down a little. The Encyclopaedia of Marxism describes "In 1903 the Second Congress of the party met in Belgium and England with this dispute comming to the forefront. After the congress the party split into the Bolshinstvo (Bolshevik -- majority party) and Menshinstvo (Menshevik -- minority party), with the Mensheviks believing in Stagism/Reformism, while the Bolsheviks demanded outright revolution." The original text probably lacked clarity and should be revised - and it looks like individual words should be ref'd! Kbthompson (talk) 08:40, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As for 'well known facts', see :Joseph Stalin#Early years as a Marxist revolutionary, 1899–1917! - about Joseph Djugashvili's stay in Tower House, in Whitechapel. What's wrong with describing Iskra as a 'socialist' newspaper? We'll return to this. Kbthompson (talk) 09:22, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

text: The text has been replaced, in a more carefully phrased form. Multiple references to the events available, including Russian (in English) sources. Kbthompson (talk) 16:34, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I erased an erroneous text 

message: I know it's not the 'done thing' for this kind of comment on a Talk page but I wanted to congratulate the editors on what is a truly stunning article. Dick G (talk) 06:17, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: {Blush} ... it was a collaborative effort and stands on the shoulders of the many more detailed wikipedia articles about the individual topics. Kbthompson (talk) 08:43, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Congratulations

message: #Stalin, Lenin and Trotsky
#Political epicentre phrase, needs revision - or tighter referencing.
#Immigration - the recently added distinction between rural and foreign immigration could do with rephrasing. It's not that I don't disagree that incomers also came from the British countryside. The focus of the article is the end of the 18th century and, partly, the ways in which successive waves of immigration changed the character of the area over two centuries. Around 1881, for instance over a third of the inhabitants had been born in the parish (census) - and by the end of that century, Jewish immigration still amounted to only 20-25% of the densest area around Whitechapel, Aldgate and Spitalfields. I think if we include rural immigration to the district, we really need some reference for it. It's true for the main body of London, but what were the effects on the East End? Kbthompson (talk) 13:17, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Issues to follow up

message: Was Minder (TV series) set in the East End? If so it could be mentioned in the TV section. PiCo (talk) 12:19, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it was made by :Euston Films at their :Teddington studios. The only plausible link to the East End was :Arthur Daley's faux cockney. Some of the derelict sites may have been in the East End, but I think the predominant locations were in West London. Kbthompson (talk) 12:58, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minder 

message: Sorry to nitpick about an excellent article, but I notice another instance of a link of the text "London docks" to the article London Docks. This is confusing to the casual reader since the East End article refers to the London docks closing in the 1980s (which is true when using the term London docks in the broad sense to mean "the enclosed docks of the upstream part of the Port of London within the area of London Docklands", but the London Docks article to which it links says that they closed in 1969 (which is also true). Taking the article's tight definition of the East End to exclude the Isle of Dogs and all points east, the East End docks all closed in the 60s. Perhaps 'local docks' or something similar might be better? Pterre (talk) 15:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, thank you, clarity was sacrificed on the altar of brevity, and the expression got linked in a way that was not intended. I notice the reference in the Dock section also contains nasty subordinate clauses that make it hard to read, too. I think I've clarified both occurrences. Kbthompson (talk) 16:02, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  London docks 

message: :Between 7 September 1940 and 10 May 1941, a sustained bombing campaign was mounted, and London was bombed for 57 successive nights, an era known as 'the Blitz'.
This reads wrong.  I assume the 57 nights occurred at some point within those two dates but it sounds like the writer of the sentence made a math error.  Could a knowledgeable person rephrase suitably?  Tempshill (talk) 23:45, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I think I've clarified that by stating that the attack began by targeting London for 57 successive nights (72 if you count the one where it was too cloudy for bombing). I believe that after that, they switched to targeting air-defences - but that is beyond the scope of this article. Kbthompson (talk) 00:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong number of nights? 

message: The image :Image:D017.JPG is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here.  In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page.  Please check
:* That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
:* That this article is linked to from the image description page.
The following images also have this problem:
*:      Image:Rachel Whiteread - House.jpg
This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --07:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Image is PD-UK. Noted there. Kbthompson (talk) 08:10, 20 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Nope, despite an unknown photographer and date, this is claimed to be a german photo - which has a +70 year PD expiry. I have a crashed one to use if all else fails ... Kbthompson (talk) 13:54, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, replaced by an official Air Ministry photo - which is PD-UK. Almost where we started, but the prior aerial version featured the Isle of Dogs. Kbthompson (talk) 14:52, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:D017.JPG

message: In view of the length of the main article, I'm considering splitting off the section In popular culture to a new article East End of London in popular culture - a copy of the introduction would remain here, but the three sections would be moved in their entirety. Any thoughts, objections? Kbthompson (talk) 12:05, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, this allows expansion of that article. Kbthompson (talk) 10:58, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  In popular culture 

message: According to the boundaries defined at length earlier in the article, the Olympic Park is not in the East End, so why is it included?   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peteste (talk • contribs) 22:20, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Olympic Park 

message: Is it NPOV to say local authority harassment? In one sense there is a reference so it is substantiated, but I still think something more neutral like "attempts by the local authority to stop it" would be more NPOV. SimonTrew (talk) 20:45, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually yes (I didn't write that sentence), but anyone in that particular business is likely to be the subject of licensing restraints and conditions that constitute harassment. It's almost certainly supported by the existing reference. I'll change it to the less charged 'restraints' - but I suspect it'll be reverted. Kbthompson (talk) 01:39, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Local authority "harassment" NPOV? 

message: I think there should be some mention or an article about 59 Brick Lane. This one of the famous historical buildings in the capital, and I believe an article should be available, which is an important part of the East End of London. This building was home to successive immigrant communities in the East End, a former Protestant Church, A Jewish Chapel, a Methodist Church, a Jewish synagogue and today a Mosque, ethnically to the French, Jews and Bangladeshis.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.211.185.85 (talk) 12:33, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well add it then, nobody's stopping you. Look at Brick Lane and the "See also"s therefrom, if it is very significant it may be better to make a separate article. Personally I've never heard of it. SimonTrew (talk) 22:00, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a para about the history of the building at :Brick Lane; here it would probably amount to undue weight since, it doesn't really have national significance. Otherwise, why not mention the nearby :19 Princelet Street, or :Dennis Severs' House - there's a line gotta be drawn in such a large article; and this is the level of detail that's best dealt with in more local articles. Thanks Kbthompson (talk) 23:13, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: OK must be pretty obscure then, I didn't even spot it in the Brick Lane article (perhaps my naive search for "59" was the trouble?). So, agree; this article refs brick lane, which then goes on to see also more specific articles. SimonTrew (talk) 23:20, 13 April 2009 (UTC)

text:  La Neuve Eglise, or London Jamme Masjid; Wesley's first sermon was preached across the road - but not here. It is too fine grained for this article. Kbthompson (talk) 09:13, 14 April 2009 (UTC)

text:  Ah, 59 is not actually the mosque; it's the building next door. The mosque probably deserves its own article - not sure why this one is nominated though. Kbthompson (talk) 09:29, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  59 Brick Lane  

message: Is it really known vernacularly as "the East End", or is it just known as "the East End"?  I think the self-appointed grammatical pomp of some Wikipedia contributors leads them to assume that because something seems to be a contraction, that that contraction exists and is somehow false.  No one ever calls the East End 'the East End of London' except to differentiate it from other 'East Ends'.  There is no 'official full name', the only name is the East end - just as the West end is the West end.
When people say "the East end" they are not being more vernacular, they are just being less specific.  When people say "the East end of London" they are not being more formal or more 'proper' or 'official' or using its 'proper name' - they are just being more specific.  It doesn't have a proper name, and there is no formal terminology, therefore there can be no 'vernacular'.  You could be even more specific and say "the East end of London, England" or "the East end of London, England, Great Britain, United Kingdom etc etc".  Just as you could be less specific and just say "east" - as in "I'm going east" (which can mean "I'm heading in an easterly direction by the compass" but which can also mean in London "I'm going to east London"
This, I think, is one of those gestures toward sounding 'more academic' or 'more smart' that I think Wikipedia contributors sometimes fall foul to.  
94.193.101.49 (talk) 11:18, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I don't think 'vernacularly' is even a word (it's usually expressed 'in the vernacular') but in this case a phrase like 'also known simply as "The East End"' would be better. I've been bold... Squiddy | (squirt ink?) 13:53, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "Vernacularly" is definitely a word. tomasz. 07:52, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

text: Seems reasonable - I don't know where the word crept in ... Kbthompson (talk) 15:31, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Known 'vernacularly' as "the East End"? 

message: There is a claim that the rise of the Labour Party and the enfranchisement of women were somehow created (and implicitly linked) in the East End. The Labour Party was not particularly involved, having refused Pankhurst membership because she was a woman, and the Liberal Party give partial franchise in 1918 (or 1919), followed by equalisation of franchise in 1930 (Stanley Baldwin, Conservative). Wee Jimmy (talk) 18:27, 23 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enfranchisement of women? 

message: Its "goath"? tomasz. 07:53, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Maps that show the East End's goath" 

message: The article quotes an 1888 publication as saying "[The] invention about 1880 of the term 'East End'", but the term appears frequently in literature predating 1880. For instance:
From 1862:
"The antipodes to the fashionable world is Petticoat Lane... It is to the East End what Regent Street is to the West." (The Criminal Prisons of London and Scenes of Prison Life, Mayhew and Binny, pg 47.)
Mayhew and Binny style it differently when referring to direction: "the very east-end of the town" (pg 59).
From 1870:
"Pleasure gardens and dancing rooms in the East and West End of London" (Prostitution, William Acton, Table of Contents.)
"...in the West End of London. In the East End and over the water..." (pg 16).
"Some shades of prostitution unknown to the more fashionable West are to be discerned in the East End of London." (pg 22).
"...to the "young man" of the East-end warehouse..." (pg 41).
Those are but a couple examples. Others are easily found by Googling. Now I don't want to mess with so distinguished an article, but the term "East End" certainly seems to have had a much earlier birth than suggested and perhaps that portion of the quotation ought to be removed or at least flagged as inaccurate.
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Poluistor~enwiki (talk • contribs) 19:24, 25 July 2014‎
:Interesting. I've just checked it in the OED. The earliest citation there is from 1742, from the New & Complete Survey of London, "From the West ... to the East End of London"; and the next is from 1831, Encyclopedia of America (but referring to London), "In the East End are found the docks and warehouses connected with ship-building". It does look as if this needs some revision. GrindtXX (talk) 21:32, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the term "East End" 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on East End of London. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20071206110526/http://www.museumindocklands.org.uk:80/English/EventsExhibitions/Themes/DocklandsWar/Docklandsatwar1.htm to http://www.museumindocklands.org.uk/English/EventsExhibitions/Themes/DocklandsWar/Docklandsatwar1.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20070716200107/http://www.met.police.uk:80/msu/history.htm to http://www.met.police.uk/msu/history.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20071219182742/http://www.eastlondonhistory.com:80/east%20end%20at%20war.htm to http://www.eastlondonhistory.com/east%20end%20at%20war.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20071011014206/http://www.whitechapelsociety.com/London/life_leisure/peoples_palace.htm to http://www.whitechapelsociety.com/London/life_leisure/peoples_palace.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20070126051950/http://photography.about.com:80/library/weekly/aa112000d.htm to http://photography.about.com/library/weekly/aa112000d.htm
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 20:47, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on East End of London. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20071213173030/http://www.bbc.co.uk/homeground/archive/2003/bethnal-green-tube-disaster.shtml to http://www.bbc.co.uk/homeground/archive/2003/bethnal-green-tube-disaster.shtml
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20070701014040/http://www.eastlondonhistory.com/london%20from%20the%20air.htm to http://www.eastlondonhistory.com/london%20from%20the%20air.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20080311191342/http://www.met.police.uk:80/msu/history.htm to http://www.met.police.uk/msu/history.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20070408151116/http://eastlondonhistory.com:80/yiddish%20theatre.htm to http://www.eastlondonhistory.com/yiddish%20theatre.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20070126051950/http://photography.about.com:80/library/weekly/aa112000d.htm to http://photography.about.com/library/weekly/aa112000d.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20070928000306/http://www.cbrd.co.uk/histories/ringways/ringway1.shtml to http://www.cbrd.co.uk/histories/ringways/ringway1.shtml#ecr
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20050322222303/http://nils.lib.tufts.edu:80/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A4000.01.0140 to http://nils.lib.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A4000.01.0140
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 12:06, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified  on East End of London. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060403181403/http://www.met.police.uk/news/stories/copeland/job/1.htm to http://www.met.police.uk/news/stories/copeland/job/1.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080311191342/http://www.met.police.uk/msu/history.htm to http://www.met.police.uk/msu/history.htm
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at ).
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 16:39, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified  on East End of London. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120525050352/http://www1.salvationarmy.org/heritage.nsf/titles/1878_Foundation_Deed_Of_The_Salvation_Army to http://www1.salvationarmy.org/heritage.nsf/titles/1878_Foundation_Deed_Of_The_Salvation_Army
*Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20090725034410/http://www.lse.ac.uk:80/resources/LSEHistory/webbs.htm to http://www.lse.ac.uk/resources/LSEHistory/webbs.htm
*Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20140606224517/http://www.libraryofmu.org/display-resource.php?id=375 to http://www.libraryofmu.org/display-resource.php?id=375
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060403181403/http://www.met.police.uk/news/stories/copeland/job/1.htm to http://www.met.police.uk/news/stories/copeland/job/1.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20050322222303/http://nils.lib.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A4000.01.0140 to http://nils.lib.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A4000.01.0140
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at ).
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 16:27, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified  on East End of London. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100529162701/http://www.barnardos.org.uk/who_we_are/history.htm to http://www.barnardos.org.uk/who_we_are/history.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070213043838/http://www.eastlondonhistory.com/battleship%20potemkin.htm to http://www.eastlondonhistory.com/battleship%20potemkin.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070701014040/http://www.eastlondonhistory.com/london%20from%20the%20air.htm to http://www.eastlondonhistory.com/london%20from%20the%20air.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070716200107/http://www.met.police.uk/msu/history.htm to http://www.met.police.uk/msu/history.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070408151116/http://www.eastlondonhistory.com/yiddish%20theatre.htm to http://www.eastlondonhistory.com/yiddish%20theatre.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20071011014206/http://www.whitechapelsociety.com/London/life_leisure/peoples_palace.htm to http://www.whitechapelsociety.com/London/life_leisure/peoples_palace.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070928000306/http://www.cbrd.co.uk/histories/ringways/ringway1.shtml#ecr to http://www.cbrd.co.uk/histories/ringways/ringway1.shtml#ecr
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20050322222303/http://nils.lib.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A4000.01.0140 to http://nils.lib.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A4000.01.0140
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at ).
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 02:48, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on East End of London. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070325000011/http://vision.edina.ac.uk/data_cube_table_page.jsp?data_theme=T_POP&data_cube=N_TPop&u_id=10186353&c_id=10001043&add=N to http://vision.edina.ac.uk/data_cube_table_page.jsp?data_theme=T_POP&data_cube=N_TPop&u_id=10186353&c_id=10001043&add=N
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070927201255/http://vision.edina.ac.uk/data_cube_table_page.jsp?data_theme=T_POP&data_cube=N_TPop&u_id=10088628&c_id=10001043&add=N to http://vision.edina.ac.uk/data_cube_table_page.jsp?data_theme=T_POP&data_cube=N_TPop&u_id=10088628&c_id=10001043&add=N
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070324042547/http://vision.edina.ac.uk/data_cube_table_page.jsp?data_theme=T_POP&data_cube=N_TPop&u_id=10207101&c_id=10001043&add=N to http://vision.edina.ac.uk/data_cube_table_page.jsp?data_theme=T_POP&data_cube=N_TPop&u_id=10207101&c_id=10001043&add=N
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080914224638/http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/corporate/modesoftransport/tube/linefacts/?line=central to http://www.tfl.gov.uk/tfl/corporate/modesoftransport/tube/linefacts/?line=central
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 04:01, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 13 external links on East End of London. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20071024154617/http://apps.newham.gov.uk/history_canningtown/cdickens.htm to http://apps.newham.gov.uk/history_canningtown/cdickens.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20131103014542/http://www.mcmullencarpentersandjoiners.co.uk/what-lies-beneath-east-end-of-london/ to http://www.mcmullencarpentersandjoiners.co.uk/what-lies-beneath-east-end-of-london/
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20040822181125/http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/corporation/lma_learning/schoolmate/Irish/sm_irish_stories_detail.asp?ID=246 to http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/corporation/lma_learning/schoolmate/Irish/sm_irish_stories_detail.asp?ID=246
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070930035156/http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/EDtoynbeeH.htm to http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/EDtoynbeeH.htm
*Added archive https://archive.is/20120801112844/http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/ahr/106.5/ah0501001651.html to http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/ahr/106.5/ah0501001651.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150919145143/http://www.bardaglea.org.uk/docklands/6-strike.html to http://www.bardaglea.org.uk/docklands/6-strike.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110902030212/http://webapps.newham.gov.uk/History_canningtown/page18a.htm to http://webapps.newham.gov.uk/History_canningtown/page18a.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20061023204408/http://www.onwar.com/articles/0205.htm to http://www.onwar.com/articles/0205.htm
*Added  tag to http://www.eastlondonmosque.net/uploadedImage/pdf/FAQ%27s%20ELM-LMC.pdf
*Added  tag to http://vision.edina.ac.uk/data_cube_table_page.jsp?data_theme=T_POP&data_cube=N_TPop&u_id=10108275&c_id=10001043&add=N
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130303203844/http://www.met.police.uk/history/records.htm to http://www.met.police.uk/history/records.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090426000459/http://www.met.police.uk/history/timeline1829-1849.htm to http://www.met.police.uk/history/timeline1829-1849.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20071201205044/http://billdocuments.crossrail.co.uk/files/Home/Home3/04.STRs/STR02_Archaeology/Part%202%20Central%20Route%20Section/03_Appendix%203%20Red%20Lion%20Theatre%2C%20Whitechapel%2C%20Documentary%20Researc/0004_R_%20RedLionTheatre.pdf to http://billdocuments.crossrail.co.uk/files/Home/Home3/04.STRs/STR02_Archaeology/Part%202%20Central%20Route%20Section/03_Appendix%203%20Red%20Lion%20Theatre%2C%20Whitechapel%2C%20Documentary%20Researc/0004_R_%20RedLionTheatre.pdf
*Added archive https://archive.is/20120723024600/http://www.craxford-family.co.uk/crauart1.php to http://www.craxford-family.co.uk/crauart1.php
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100923030902/http://www.uel.ac.uk/2012/office/partners.htm to http://www.uel.ac.uk/2012/office/partners.htm
*Added  tag to http://www.harpercollins.co.uk/News_and_Events/News/Pages/Hopping-by-Melanie-McGrath.aspx
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 04:22, 16 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 3 external links on East End of London. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20050426214348/http://nils.lib.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A4000.01.0141 to http://nils.lib.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A4000.01.0141
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20050322221519/http://nils.lib.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A4000.01.0142 to http://nils.lib.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A4000.01.0142
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20050322222303/http://nils.lib.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A4000.01.0143 to http://nils.lib.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A4000.01.0143
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 13:46, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on East End of London. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20160303234222/http://www.qmul.ac.uk/alumni/alumninetwork/qmandw/qm_origins_history.pdf to http://www.qmul.ac.uk/alumni/alumninetwork/qmandw/qm_origins_history.pdf
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 04:04, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on East End of London. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070314102254/http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/dissemination/LeadDatasetList.do?a=3&b=276772&c=E1+4LP&d=13&g=346818&i=1001x1003&m=0&enc=1&domainId=46 to http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/dissemination/LeadDatasetList.do?a=3&b=276772&c=E1+4LP&d=13&g=346818&i=1001x1003&m=0&enc=1&domainId=46
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110613024003/http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/dissemination/LeadTrendView.do?a=7&b=276772&c=tower+hamlets&d=13&e=13&f=24451&g=346968&i=1001x1003x1004x1005&l=1812&o=254&m=0&r=1&s=1237123476500&enc=1&adminCompId=24451&variableFamilyIds=6374&xW=1010 to http://www.neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/dissemination/LeadTrendView.do?a=7&b=276772&c=tower+hamlets&d=13&e=13&f=24451&g=346968&i=1001x1003x1004x1005&l=1812&o=254&m=0&r=1&s=1237123476500&enc=1&adminCompId=24451&variableFamilyIds=6374&xW=1010
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 20:57, 31 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: One book that may be helpful to add to the further reading section is Forty Years of Scotland Yard, as the majority of it talks about his experiences with the East End.
69.73.22.22 (talk) 17:47, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential further reading 

message: This article no longer meets Wikipedia:Featured article criteria. There are unsourced paragraphs, unsourced statements, unattributed quotes, weasel words without attribution, a section consisting largely of quotes, inconsistent citation styles and short, stubby paragraphs that do not meet the prose criterion. DrKay (talk) 14:08, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured article review