Talk:Manchu language

message: This article is somewhat redundant with the extensive "language" paragraph of the Manchu article. olivier 07:57 Feb 3, 2003 (UTC)
Someone should translate this paragraph to English.  I would except that I don't know what they're trying to say.  
"As a result, in June 2008, Acheng District, Harbin, the Harbin Science and Technology Vocational College list Manchu language into a major. It's the first vocational school who teach Manchu language as a major in China. That means Manchu language is no longer a professional. [7]"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.253.214.40 (talk) 01:56, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
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message: ᠮᠠᠨᠵᡠ ᡤᡳᠰᡠᠨ ᠰᡝᡵᡝᠩᡤᡝ ᠮᡠᠰᡝᡳ ᠮᠠᠨᠵᡠᠰᠠ ‍ᡳ ᡠᠵᡠᡳ ᡠᠵᡠ ᠣᠶᠣᠩᡤᠣ ᠪᠠᡳᡨᠠ ᡳᠨᡠ‌‌᠉ ᠮᠠᠨᠵᡠ ᠣᠴᡳ ᡩᡠᠯᡳᠮᠪᠠᡳ ᡤᡠᡵᡠᠨ ‍ᡳ ᡩᡝᡵᡤᡳ ᠠᠮᠠᡵᡤᡳ ᡳᠯᠠᠨ ᡤᠣᠯᠣ ᡩᡝ ᠪᠠᠨᠵᡳᡥᠠᡳ ᠪᡳᠰᡳᡵᡝ ᡠᡴᠰᡠᡵᠠᡳ ᡤᡝᠪᡠ ᡳᠨᡠ ᠈ ᡠᠮᠠᡳ ᠪᠠᡳ ᡤᡝᠪᡠ ᠸᠠᡴᠠ ᠉ ᡩᠠᠮᡠ ᠪᡠᡵᡳᡨᡝᠨ ᡤᡳᠰᡠᠨ ᠵᠠᡳ ᡦᡳᡦᠣᠨ ᡤᡳᠰᡠᠨ ᡩᡝ ᠮᡠᠰᡝᡳ ᠮᠠᠨᠵᡠᠰᠠ ‍ᡳ ᡩᠠ ᡤᠠᡧᠠᠨ ᠪᡝ ᠮᠠᠨᠵᡠ ᠰᡝᠮᠪᡳ᠉
ᠨᡝ ᡩᡠᠯᡳᠮᠪᠠᡳ ᡤᡠᡵᡠᠨ ᡩᡝ ᡝᠯᡝᡳ ᡝᠯᡝᡳ ᠯᠠᠪᡩᡠ ᠮᠠᠨᠵᡠ ᠠᠰᡳᡥᠠᡨᠠ ᡠᡵᠰᡝ ᠮᠠᡶᠠᡵᡳ ‍ᡳ ᡤᡳᠰᡠᠨ ᠪᡝ ᡨᠠᠴᡳᠮᡝ ᡩᡝᡵᡳᠪᡠᠮᠪᡳ᠉ ᠰᡳ ᠠᡳᡴᠠᠪᠠᡩᡝ ᡝᡵᡝ ᡤᡳᠰᡠᠨ ᠪᡝ ᡨᠠᠴᡳᡴᡳ ᠰᡝᠴᡳ http://manchusky.qq.topzj.com ᡝᡵᡝ ᠠᠰᡠ ᡩᡝ ᠵᡳᠣ!
The Manchu language is not the only extant representative of the Tungusic branch of the "Altaic" family.
The Tungusic languages are traditionally grouped into a Northern branch, formed by Evenk (10.000), Even (7.000), Neghidal (150) and Solon (15.000), and a southern one, formed by Udehe (500), Oroch (150), Ulch (1.100), Orok (60), Nanai (6.000) and Manchu with Sibo(10.000): the fomer 5 languages form the Amur subbranch, while the later two form the Manchu subbranch. The very approximate number of speakers is provided in brackets.
Gianni
:I heard Sibo people like to say that Sibo != Manchu; I know that there are Sibo-Manchu dictionaries.  I didn't know that many people still spoke Evenki and Solon though. Mgmei 05:47, 19 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tungusic languages 

message: Windows Vista supports Manchu rendering. On my XP machine, the script is messed up. On Vista, it looks just like the horizontal version of the picture. --Voidvector 09:15, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Windows supports 

message: It is dubious that "rain" and "sky" were originally the same word.
Same problem with "to yell" vs "to cause a commotion".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.245.232.22 (talk) 00:19, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should be separate words 

message: There is no explanation on how the Jurchen/Manchus, who knew how to write with Jurchen script since the Jin dynasty, became illiterate during the Ming dynasty and had to come up with the new Manchu script. This has to be filled in, because the reader is basically told that the Jurchen knew how to write in their own script, and later the Jurchen/Manchu were always illiterates before they copied mongolian script.Rund Van (talk) 04:09, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: The lead states less than 70, while the infobox states 18. Why is this? FoCuSandLeArN (talk) 21:07, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Any such number is bound to be vague.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.26.1.113 (talk) 14:19, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Native speakers 

message: Under the heading "Teaching" a certain amount of repetition is appearing.
IMHO the sentence: 
"However this was in 1849, and more research should be done on the current teaching methods used in the PRC." looks really like trolling from some PRC nationalist or something and should be removed. It is stating the obvious and is not counterfactual to anything being said before. The paragraph already clearly states the date of the previous text that is even a quote, so it is really already very clear that an old text is being quoted and that it might not be actual. The best would be to remove the sentence and expand with a section/paragraph on how the language is thought now in PRC considering that it is a *second language* teaching and not anymore a first language like in 1849. This naturally makes the modern method approach obviously different.
Gabriele Dini Ciacci (talk) 10:49, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teaching 

message: > Although the Xibe language, with 40,000 speakers, is in almost every respect identical to Manchu, Xibe speakers, who live in far western Xinjiang, are ethnically distinct from Manchus.
This is nonsense and conflicts with the Xibe language article which says:
> Xibe is mutually intelligible with Manchu,[5] although unlike Manchu, Xibe is reported to have eight vowel distinctions as opposed to the six found in Manchu, as well as differences in morphology, and a more complex system of vowel harmony.[6]
and then goes on to claim:
> Xibe has 7 case morphemes, 3 of which are used quite differently from modern Manchu.
So which is it, Wikipedia?? Are they different or the same?? --49.144.197.28 (talk) 22:18, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xibe is not "identical" to Manchu 

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message: In the vowels section on the language's phonology Manchu vowel inventory is seen as having a schwa but no [e] sound, implying that the e in Manchu Romanization corresponds to a schwa, but examples of Manchu words shown later are shown with the corresponding IPA value [e]. Which is it? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 103.215.194.148 (talk) 06:12, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradictory info on vowels -- does the e in Manchu romanization correspond to a schwa or not? 

message: in Manchu language#Pronouns , table 1 and 2 spell "accusative" as "Ackusative" and "Akkusative" respectively. I think these are mispellings, but i dont want to edit them if they are simply alternate forms of "Accusative". Hamncheese95 (talk) 21:54, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: For now, i will edit them to accusative, if these are actual spellings please let me know, and reedit them. Hamncheese95 (talk) 21:58, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: They are not alternative spellings, you did the right thing. Thanks, good job! Remsense诉 21:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mispelling(?)s of Accusative