Talk:Fuse (explosives)

message: Hi - making a change for clarity.
As the article uses the American spelling 'fuze' throughout surely it should be moved to that title with this spelling (fuse) kept as a redirect? Lisiate 21:59, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect?

message: The article is currently rather confusing on the distinction between the two spellings "fuze" and "fuse".  It suggests that "fuze" is the correct spelling in the US and the UK, and "fuse" is correct elsewhere (where?).  In the five online dictionaries I checked (OED, WordNet, dictionary.com, MSN encarta dictionary, Merriam-Webster) none give this distinction. All of them list "fuze" as an alternative spelling of "fuse" (in the context of an explosive detonator); some claim that it is used "often" or "usually" (but don't give it its own entry). 
The following comes from a textbook on explosives, and is repeated in other chemistry textbooks:  "Note the spelling of fuze: a fuze is a device for initiating the explosion of high-explosive shells or of bombs, shrapnel, mines, grenades, etc; a fuse is a device for communicating fire." - Davis, The Chemistry of Powder and Explosives, Angriff (1972).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.234.118.181 (talk) 06:50, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The distinction you took out is exactly what I was taught in my military service, i.e. fuSe is a piece of safety fuse or similar material which burns down at a set rate to provide a simple pyrotechnic time delay to a charge, while a fuZe is a complex device used to control the detonation of an explosive weapon. However a few google tests do not support this as being a common usage, at least in Internet land; in every word combination I tried, fuZe came up as much rarer than fuSe. It might be most correct then to say that fuZe is used mainly by military ordnance types. Securiger 15:30, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: My apologies, I misparsed "It was taken out" as passive voice! Securiger 17:23, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: Well, I'm Australian. Securiger 17:23, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fuse vs. Fuze 

message: Can we remove the merge articles suggestion, as it's clearly in error and a result of someone's fuse/fuze confusion?  I will do it in a week if nobody objects.  Georgewilliamherbert 03:20, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Remove merge recommendation

message: Let's drop references info here in a new section.  Georgewilliamherbert 22:49, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fuze and Fuse references 

message: * http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/library/policy/army/fm/23-90/ch3.htm (easily accessable FM 23-90)
* http://www.atk.com/ProductsSolutions/conventionalammo_largecaliber.asp Alliant Technosystems large caliber ammo webpage
* http://www.kdi-ppi.com/html/m734_bio.htm M734 fuze for mortar ammunition
* http://www.army.mod.uk/linked_files/rahs/Winter05_Text.doc UK Ministry of Defense artillery history presentation
* http://www.army.mod.uk/linked_files/ratdt/strike/AS90_L4.pdf AS90 mechanised artillery crew training manual, UK MOD
* http://www.resheffuzes.com/RESHEF/company.html Israeli fuze manufacturing company
* http://www.drdo.org/labs/arma/arde/achieve.shtml India's Defense Research and Development Organization Armaments establishment
** Comment: uses term fuse
*** Reply: Where?  I just did a find-in-page and got zero "fuse" in the page.  Georgewilliamherbert 23:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fuze

message: * http://www.roe.ru/cataloque/airdef_cataloque.html
** Comment - search in page showing no instances of "fuze" or "fuse" in this one... Georgewilliamherbert 00:02, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fuse

message: Please, just visit the US Department of Labor's dictionary of explosives terms. (The USDL regulates worker safety.) It never mentions "fuze". http://www.osha.gov/doc/outreachtraining/htmlfiles/blasting.html Scott Adler 22:38, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: US Government Definitions - no "fuze"

message: Fuze is what is written on artillery ammunition packaging in English speaking countries.  
OFG Hogg in his 'Artillery: its Origin, Heyday and Decline'(1969)states the following(pg 183):  'The word "fuze" is often spelt "fuse" by those unaquainted with artillery usage.  This is incorrect.  "Fuse", derived from fusus, the past participle of fundo, means "to melt", e.g., the term "fuse-wire" used in electrical circuits.  "Fuze", on the other hand, is the shortened or modern method of spelling "fuzee", meaning a tube filled with combustible material.  It is a derivation of fusus, a spindle and from the French fusee, a spindle full of thread.  It is well to make this point at the outset.'
You can use fuse wherever you want unless you are referring to the fuze that is a component of artillery ammunition.
Incidentally the word 'fuze' apears to have been standard in UK military use in the early 20th Century.  Don't have any contemporanious documents to check earlier.
Nfe 07:34, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that just about ends the argument, Nigel ! Proof that fuze is in fact a different word, which unfortunately sounds like another unrelated word. Hence people get confuzed. If the military in all the English-speaking countries insist on fuze, I think Wikipedia articles dealing with ammo and ordnance should follow. British ordnance manuals as far back as 1872 used fuze exclusively. As in Pettman's General Service Fuze.Rcbutcher (talk) 13:02, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling

message: As far as I know these are most commonly created with a thick walled paper tube instead of a hollow wooden dowel.
The spolette is also most often ignited by the quickmatch leader fuse rather than the lift charge (the shell is loaded with the spolette oriented upwards to reduce pressure on this weak spot, the solid disc in the other end of the shell can handle more pressure) the lift charge is then ignited by a passfire fuse (quickmatch) connected to the spolette and placed along the side wall of the shell towards the bottom where the lift charge is placed. 
Pyrotechnica IX and XI contains articles by A. Fulcanelli where traditional Italian / American shell design is
described in great detail. 
Ere 09:47, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spolettes (I think it is spelled with one o) 

message: This has surfaced again over at Talk:Contact fuse. Following a request to rename it to the correct spelling, one editor's response has been to start edit-warring by rewriting the whole article (and its references) to use "fuse". Andy Dingley (talk) 11:18, 8 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fuse vs. Fuze (again) 

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message: Just in case anyone here isn't already aware, there is an ongoing discussion at Talk:Fuze#Spelling (again) at Plasticine. Burninthruthesky (talk) 09:42, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
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message: Is this article in English or American English? At the moment, it doesn't say. If that can be clarified, then the spelling can be corrected as appropriate. Hengistmate (talk) 06:34, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
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