Talk:Amaras Monastery

message: Let's not confuse two entities. One is Caucasian Albania of Strabo, an obscure land located on the eastern bank of Kura River and populated by some 26 obscure tribes. An almost completely different thing is the Kingdom of Aghvank, an Armenian-ruled entity based on Armenia's provinces of Artsakh and Utik where language, culture and majority of population were Armenian. Kingdom of Aghvank was an Armenian kingdom in its own right. I am amazed how Azerbaijanis are using the terms dzernark, танутэр, hairapets without asking themselves about the origin of these Armenian words. Maybe they believe those are "Albanian" words? Amaras was an Armenian monastery based on Armenian land but outside of the united Kingdom of Armenia - in one of the many Armenian kingdoms/principalities. .. և ձեր բոլորի մասնակցությունը անհրաժեշտ է լեռնային ղարաբաղի էջի վրա, ոչ թե այստեղ.  Capasitor (talk) 00:47, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Capasitor,I don't think some of the recent edits you made are improving the article. For example. there is no need to reproduce in a photo-caption material that is already in the article, nor add names written using Armenian script. The details that I wrote about the tomb are taken from the booklet "Amaras" by M. Hasranyan. The tomb does have a barrel-vault (it is depicted in a drawing in the book). Meowy 22:01, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

text: It's "Hasranyan" on my copy, the text of which is in English. Meowy 03:12, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This is so funny :). Prof. Murad Hasratyan/Hasratian is a well-known specialist on early medieval Armenian architecture. Tip: type "Murad Hasratyan" in Google, then type "Murad Hasratyan" and you will see the difference. There is also his CV in French there in PDF format. Trust me. Here is a another good work of his  Capasitor (talk) 03:42, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed the spelling to "Hasratyan" since it seems to be an obvious printers (or translators) error. Meowy 16:13, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Aghvank and Albania

message: Please, respect to the unity of sovereign countries that accepted by United Nations. 
No ethnic separatism and jingoism in Wikipedia!--Quzeyli 07:56, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Please sea Talk:Yeghishe_Arakyal_Monastery#Vandalizm by de facto Republic supporters. --Vacio (talk) 06:47, 17 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Btw, on location map, a solution could be a double location map, like on the WP:fr article. Sardur (talk) 00:23, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And yet you carry on! there's no "Martuni rayon", it has been abolished by Azerbaijan itself. Sardur (talk) 13:10, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I noted below, yes, it is not distinct, it is rayon. Look at: Administrative divisions of Azerbaijan.--Quzeyli 13:16, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And I repeat it, there's no "NK region" in Azerbaijan. Sardur (talk) 13:17, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Nagorno-Karbakh doesn't have any status on Administrative divisions of Azerbaijan. --Quzeyli 13:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is what I said from the beginning. Both this article and Yeghishe Arakyal Monastery contain inaccuracies due to your actions. Sardur (talk) 13:29, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: For me, use of that region's unofficial Armenian names is not big problem. However, the official status is important for territorial integrity of Azerbaijan. The best thing that we can do is adding more information about that beautiful monasteries!--144.122.135.88 (talk) 14:37, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The "territorial integrity of Azerbaijan" is of no importance here: the article should represent the current state of knowledge about this monastery. Sardur (talk) 20:53, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalizm by ''de facto'' Republic supporters 

message: This monastery is located in Khojavend Rayon of Azerbaijan. --Quzeyli 13:25, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Quzeyli, get your head checked, or get a girlfriend.  Pick one. Serouj (talk) 04:46, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Khojavend|Khojavend Rayon]] 

message: This territory is now a part of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic.  The land was never under the control of the Republic of Azerbaijan after the fall of the Soviet Union, and it therefore makes sense that the map and location shown be that of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic. To go to the subject of this article, you need a Visa for the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic, not Azerbaijan.  You can't even GET to the location through Azerbaijan. Serouj (talk) 04:14, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This was not resolving anything. Just supporting Armenian racism! Respect to the unity of sovereign states. -- --Quzeyli 16:02, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The "unity of sovereign states" is of no importance here: the article should represent the current state of knowledge about this monastery. Sardur (talk) 20:54, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It is an occupied region and according UN it will solve without breaking unity of Azerbaijan. Now, this article should be acceptable for the future too. --Quzeyli 19:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The UN has not accorded anything over how is going to be resolved since the UN has no power over the process of peace of NK, which is under control of the OSCE Minsk Group, and according to the OSCE Minks Group, and the Republics of Armenia and Azerbaijan, the conflict is going to be resolved over the principles of peoples right to self-determination, territorial integrity, and non-use of force. So you should take that also in consideration, that territorial integrity is not the only stance on the conflict resolution, but also the right to self-determination. Now if you refer to the March 2008 non-binding resolution of the UN which supports Azerbaijan territorial integrity, I should remind you that it is a non-binding resolution, which means it has not legal weight or power, but only serves for moral support.Khio Khane (talk) 20:08, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed 

message: For one week, excessive edit warring. Solve your dispute before you edit the article, and use the  templates. SGGH ping! 11:06, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi protection 

message: The external link which has again been added to the article has absolutely no place here, as it is completely of a propagandistic and unreliable nature.</br>
On top of this, we have a new revert here by , who just didn't care about the preceding section. A new proof, if needed, of a disruptive behaviour from that user. Sardur (talk) 20:31, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Btw, I would like to underline another result of that revert: ref 1 in the intro is now presented as supporting the exact opposite of what it says. Sardur (talk) 20:38, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

text: I would only add that having a dispute on such an article about NKR/Az is stupid: the issue should be raised on the main articles (Nagorno-Karabakh Republic and Azerbaijan), and not on every articles about Armenian monasteries in the area. Sardur (talk) 21:29, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propaganda and revert 

message: Acoording to the map created by United Nations, Nagorno Karabakh region is a part of Azerbaijan. Please, stop unhealthy nationalism and letting misinformation! --144.122.248.206 (talk) 13:51, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm curious: could you just tell me how to access the site once you're in Azerbaijan? Sardur (talk) 20:58, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Please, check references.--144.122.135.88 (talk) 13:51, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No link with the monastery. The article should represent the current knowledge and the current situation, and give the most useful informations. It should not be transformed into an irredentist article. Sardur (talk) 21:14, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

text: They are about monasteries. Keep your point to the NKR article and stop your disruptive behaviour. Sardur (talk) 05:45, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I proved and edited just formal location of monasteries, not historical and architectural info of these monasteries. Stop separatist propaganda! --144.122.135.88 (talk) 14:25, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Amaras is not mentionned in any of your links. Sardur (talk) 18:06, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I deleted the last revert as it was done by a sock/meat account. Should I be reverted (which I do not hope), there's no need to fix the map size at 400: 275 is far more regular, and 300 is the default map size. Sardur (talk) 20:46, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

text: *They are about the location of monasteries which has been occupied. The monasteries are in the borders of Azerbaijan. --Hay-siken (talk) 06:25, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether it is or isn't, your comment doesn't show a relevant map for it's location and how to access it de facto from Azerbaijan. Aregakn (talk) 10:24, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unofficial Country 

message: An edit war is began in here by the user Chipmunkdavis. We have plenty sources claiming that this is Caucasian Albanian Church by architecture (please, compare with Church of Kish), it was built in Caucasian Albania, by the Caucasian Albanian people. How many more proofs do we need to show that this is pure Caucasian Albanian church? --46.18.68.214 (talk) 17:02, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Where are your proofs that it was built by Caucasian Albanians, in Caucasian Albania? If the church was in founded in the early 4th century that the region, was still part of Armenia. But even after its attachment to CA in 387 it is believed that the region remained culturally Armenian. --vacio 17:11, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Is there any proof that after annexation of Karabakh to Caucasian Albania, the region remained Armenian? --46.18.68.214 (talk) 18:49, 18 August 2011 (UTC)

text: There are many sources quoted in the articles Artsakh, Caucasian Albania and other articles related to the history of the region. --vacio 20:09, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit War 

message: The attribution of Movses and Pavstos relates them to the Armenian literary tradition, not only to their ethnic origin. Keep this in mind. Sprutt (talk) 02:07, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit War 2

message: Hi, you added back the flags with reason . "Infobox templates for military conflicts" here refers to , aka battles/wars, not everything related to a conflict. Therefore, I have reverted your edit. Cheers. — CuriousGolden  (T·C)  16:13, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP:INFOBOXFLAG