Talk:Clan Sinclair

message: This article seems to be a copy/paste job from http://us.geocities.com/elfpolitics/tmclansinclair.html
Do we have the copyright holder's permission to put this here?
--Aim Here 18:51, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What has now changed? The article still looks very similar to that on the website, certainly similar enough to violate the author's copyrights if he or she objects to you putting it here. Do you have permission from whoever wrote or owns copyright on the article? -- Aim Here 19:07, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Copy/paste job

message: While I take this user's edits to be in good faith attempts to improve this article, not vandalize it, it seems as if his/her bias is to replace any use of "clan" to "family", perhaps due to some perceived negative connotation of the word clan. Not being close to an expert on the topic, I won't revert all 9 changes, but I will say, there are multiple links at the bottom that go to "clan" Sinclair sites and in those links valid information and even more references to the "clan" Sinclair, therefore it would seem to me that Clan Sinclair is a proper term to be used through the article. If anyone else would like to discuss the edits made (especially the user that made them) and potentially reverting them, please chime in. Jason Leach 00:32, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is also worth bearing in mind the Sinclair chiefs' origins as  adventurers who came over as part of the Norman conquest, and  only later acquired lands in Scotland (See detailed discussion below) This was a similar pattern to many other so-called 'clan' chiefs. 
JF42 (talk) 14:12, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  March 1st edits by 86.146.48.147 

message: Just made it for my userpage :) Terrasidius (talk) 23:47, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Userbox 

message: With modern, famous Sinclairs including this beautiful model Alice Sinclair :) ΤΕΡΡΑΣΙΔΙΩΣ(Ταλκ) 14:45, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: done ~ as a link to Sinclair (surname). Yours Czar Brodie (talk) 15:44, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing out! Why these pages were not linked before is weird but anyway I have just spent a good wee while on it and spruced it up a bit, added more people, sorted into alphabeta/profession for ease of understanding and added things like cats and a ref even. Thanks again! :) ΤΕΡΡΑΣΙΔΙΩΣ(Ταλκ) 21:19, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maybe we should have a "Notable Contemporary Sinclairs" section 

message: How complete is the list of sub-families? My grandfather came from the Orkney Islands, and I was told he was part of Clan Sinclair. His last name was "Barnie", but I didn't see it listed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.74.143.190 (talk) 04:06, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The Clan Sinclair Australia website lists "Barney" as a sept . Only a few clans seem to have an 'official' list of septs. It doesn't seem like Clan Sinclair has such a list. Of the three association websites listed on the chief's website, only the Australian and Canadian websites list any names. The Canadian one just states "Other family names associated with Clan Sinclair are Caird, Clouston, Clyne, Flett, Gallie, Linklater, Lyall, Mason and Moar; these are usually called septs of our clan" . Anyways its really a losing battle with just listing surnames, you'll never get every last spelling variation.--Celtus (talk) 05:56, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of "Septs" 

message: The chief's website shows a pic of his coat of arms . Seems like the one currently in the infobox needs to be replaced.--Celtus (talk) 06:01, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed. Yours ever, Czar Brodie (talk) 16:19, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chief's arms 

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message: The presence of John Sinclair in Spain with his brother, Sir William, as part of Sir James Douglas' company can only be assumed. There is no evidence in the sources and his death in 1330 has been presumed as a result of testamentary evidence indicating John Sinclair had died by November 1331
This is now being presented as fact, in publications such as 'Collins Scottish Clan & Family Encyclopedia', and  on unreliable platforms such as clansinclair.org.; e.g. <http://www.clansinclair.org/Timeline9.htm>.   A discreet qualifying remark is required, at least.
Similarly, whether one brother or both were killed in Spain, clearly their bodies would not have been transported whole back to Scotland for burial. At best, following common practice, seen in John Barbour's account of how Douglas' body was prepared for repatriation, only the bones, stripped of flesh by boiling in water, would have been taken home, leaving the flesh and viscera to be buried in consecrated ground. 
JF42 (talk) 15:07, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Sinclair