Talk:Roseville, California

message: Most of this article has no sources provided, especially in the Economy, Revitalization, Educational institutions sections.  I will try to find sources to keep notable information.  I will remove anything speculative, non-notable, or not directly related to the subject of the article.  Gh5046 (talk) 08:50, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Planning on removing large portions of several sections

message: The article starts off well with neutral statements about the town, and degenerates into sections which would appear were inserted by the Developer or a marketing agency, if not directly off a press release.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.166.157.242 (talk) 16:55, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you. Before I actually cared to edit on wikipedia, I liked this page due to the fact it listed all the stuff going on with the mall. But now I notice how developer-centered this page is.Killiondude (talk) 06:15, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Yup. I can't give source, but recognize some of the language. I suspect that it's under copyright - if not copywritten directly by Westfield.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.62.247.82 (talk) 15:24, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reads Like A Westfield Advertising/Marketing Publication

message: Way to much specific info given. I added the "news release" template at the top of the article for that reason. "If a particular company has been crucial to the economy then discuss it but avoid listing company names for no other reason than just mentioning them." From WP:USCITY#Economy. Read the whole WP:USCITY article for more info on how to improve page. Killiondude (talk) 07:05, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay. I'm going to rework the Economy and Current Projects sections. According to WP:NOTDIR and WP:USCITY#Economy, I think a lot of the fluff can be taken out. Which in this case will take out most of the writing in the sections. Killiondude (talk) 08:09, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm working on the article. I took out the whole "current projects" section, but I'm going to dump three projects (out of the 10 or so from the article) that might be notable, on the this page. The first and second because I don't know if there are any buildings that have more than 4 stories in the city right now (it talks about the planned construction of some 6-10 story buildings). The third one because it talks about a notable (unique) restaurant. Killiondude (talk) 08:53, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Over the top Economy and Current Projects sections

message: There are at least two books on the history of Roseville, so there should be no lack of source material. I recently read the page on Citrus Heights; it does an excellent job in this regard.
What would seem reasonable is at least a paragraph each on the settlement, the coming of the railroad, and the growth in the last half century. 
A discussion of the historical business districts (Main Street, then Vernon Street, then Douglas Blvd.) would be far more usefull than the present boostering for the latest shopping centers. Similarly the rise of important institutions, such as the hospital (the original in the '50s and the newr one in the '90s, and the coming of Kaiser). Lots of interesting local history that even residents are not used to hearing about. (Anyone know anything about the rise of Roseville a regional automotive retail center? How about the rise and fall of the zoo at Royer Park? The auction yard?)
Carl doughboy (talk) 22:59, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The City of Roseville gives an excellent source to for its history here, in a decade-by-decade fashion. Not being a Roseville resident or native myself, I haven't put the time into summarizing it and putting it on Roseville's page. Perhaps one day. By all means use that site if you'd like. I agree with your suggestions on adding more historical context to the article rather than recent events. -Killiondude (talk) 00:20, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs some Historical info

message: There is some old info in this article. May someone help me fix it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pokemas493 (talk • contribs) 10:15, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Updating information.

message: Why is Boxxy in this article? The sources given say nothing about her living in Roseville. PsychedelicFlashingMudkip (talk) 21:25, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Meh. Find something more concrete then. Maybe she says it in here videos? They were too weird for me to watch more than one minute of. 4chan and Encyclopedia Dramatica are convinced she lives in Roseville, which makes me wonder if she says so herself. Killiondude (talk) 07:00, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: She doesn't say it in any of her videos. 4chan and ED probably shouldn't be considered reliable sources... The only place they're getting that from is from when a member of the group of teenaged boys who hacked her Youtube account and scared her off the internet said that's where she lives. People are saying she moved to Europe now, anyway. Boxxy should probably be removed from this article, random 4chan camgirls aren't really notable. PsychedelicFlashingMudkip (talk) 20:47, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I never claimed her notability came from 4chan avenues, though that's where it may be heading now. If she's notable enough to have a redirect and a one-liner in another article, then she's notable to be in this article if we have some sort of reliable source claiming she lives in Roseville. It makes no difference to me (except for the fact that IP addressees will continuously try to reinsert her in the article), so if a reliable source claiming she lives in Roseville isn't found, then her entry can be removed from this article. Killiondude (talk) 23:21, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Boxxy

message: Should this be added as a source?
http://roseville.ca.us/ed/demographics/population/default.asp  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.8.105.153 (talk) 21:28, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we try to stick to official US Census Bureau numbers. There are so many other local level, state level, and even other government agencies that have different figures that it would be kind of overwhelming to try and use sources from all of them. So it's mostly for consistency that we use US census numbers. Killiondude (talk) 20:55, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Population?

message: The written data on climate (July and August high temperatures) conflicts with the table directly below from weather.com. Written data has no source identified. Particularly egregious is the statement that the average August high is 110 degrees, substantially different than the weather.com table.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.177.88 (talk) 23:03, 10 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate data conflicting 

message: Most of this article is outdated and lacks information for numerous subjects even though there are many sources for said subjects. The city of Roseville is a major suburb and city but the article makes it look like it is not.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.8.104.239 (talk) 01:11, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You are mostly right. Feel free to make changes. One of Wikipedia's core policies is being bold in editing. Killiondude (talk) 06:11, 26 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Outdated

message: I don't know if roseville's own history website( https://roseville.ca.us/visiting/history_of_roseville/1970s.asp ) is in the sources or not, but there's some information that is missing (though it may be possible that the roseville's page is wrong). For example, the wikipedia page states:
"On April 28, 1973, 18 boxcars loaded with bombs en route to the Concord Naval Weapons Station began detonating in the Southern Pacific Railroad yard after one of the cars caught fire. More than 6000 bombs detonated, injuring more than 350 people. The explosions caused damage to 5500 buildings up to 6,800 feet (2,070 m) away. The cause of the initial car fire has never been determined. [4] In the late 1990s, development in the area by the Union Pacific Railroad uncovered more unexploded ordnance, which were eventually removed.[25]"
However, the roseville history website linked above states, about the same event:
"An exception to the rule, however, occurred on the morning of April 28, 1973 when a wooden floor on a munitions boxcar caught fire from brake shoe sparks. The fire resulted in a series of earth-shattering explosions causing $5.6 million worth of damage in Roseville and neighboring communities of Citrus Heights, Antelope and North Highlands. Miraculously no lives were lost but over 100 people were treated for assorted cuts and bruises caused by broken glass and flying debris."
The wikipedia page does not state that the fire was caused by sparks, or that it costed $5.6 million worth of damage. Should any of this be added?
Phenicopter (talk) 04:55, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Train Explosion 

message: For a major city that is a suburb for the state capitol, this article is lacking in severe substance. The city's population is around 120,000 and is expected to grow to 200,000+ in the coming years. There is nothing in this article that mentions the history of the city, nor any specific details of anything. A lot of the information is outdated, and there is nothing about future plans such as the expansion of West Roseville or the restructuring of the I-80/CA-65 split. All I as is, where is the information?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:3086:8C00:711F:9D7B:2ADC:1589 (talk) 03:12, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Very Low Quality Article 

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