Talk:Ostern

message: Has the term "Borstj Western" ever been used? I just thought it sounded funny. 81.232.72.53 12:13, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Borscht?

message: Apparently some of the Karl May movies were shot in Yugoslavia.
Do they include the Western-themed ones?
Do they qualify as Red Westerns?
:Hard to say, but they should be included as a mention. Yugoslavia was always a grey area in the Cold War, but as they are Western themed, and filmed in Eastern Europe, I think they qualify with/without overt political themes. --MacRusgail 16:07, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All the 1960s Karl May westerns were shot in Yugoslavia, but they were West German/French/Italian/Yugoslav co-productions. —Naddy 14:57, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Still would be worth mentioning though.--MacRusgail (talk) 14:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Karl May 

message: I think this article should be at Red Western. Comments?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  20:51, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree. --MacRusgail (talk) 14:57, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Move

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message: The article needs a list of films that belong to the category. Eastern is a well known term in Hollywood and is commonly used in media.
A short list includes at least these movies made in East European countries.
* Chingachgook, die große Schlange
* White Sun of the Desert
* Dauria (film)
* At Home Among Strangers
* War (2002 film)
Please continue and add more titles from the Russian page ...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.200.86.169 (talk) 15:59, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: List of films

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message: Film "Dauria" is a classic Ostern.
The movie is set in eastern areas of Russia before and during the Russian revolution and Civil War. "Dauria" is focused on traditional life and struggles of Siberian Cossacks. The Cossack leader, Ataman, is played by brilliant Russian filmstar Kopelyan so natural, that all other Cossacks - hundreds of them - eagerly follow their leader through the turbulent history of Siberian Russia. Ataman is grooming the young Cossack, Roman, played by another popular Russian actor Vitali Solomin. In the first episode the two are going along well, but the war and revolution pulls them apart and they become rivals. Now the Cossack community is split in two groups: one remains faithful to Ataman, another, younger generation of Cossacks join the gang led by Roman. In a series of bloody fights the Cossack community falls apart and Roman's father is shot dead. Such was the nature of Russian Civil War. 
Russian Cossacks in "Dauria" look very much like american cowboys. In the early years of Hollywood, many stunts and cameo actors in cowboy westerns were played by immigrants from Russia - many of them were Cossacks from Don, Volga, Urals and Siberia. Those Russian Cossacks were responsible for creating the now familiar image of a horserider - american cowboy.
Many Russian movies were inspired by classic Hollywood westerns, but called "Osterns" in Eastern Europe and USSR mainly because the action is set in the eastern parts of Europe and Russia.
Terminology in some critical reviews may seem vague, but no matter how one may call the genre (Western, or Ostern) the similarity between Russian Cossacks and american cowboys is apparent.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.219.92.250 (talk) 08:50, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Film "Dauria" is a classic example of Ostern 

message: I'm a native speaker of German and i had to add some comment. This term "eastern" is really used for Chinese movies, but: The term "Ostern" reflects only (what really that means) simple the translation for the Christian feast "Eastern" and not this kind of movies. The redirect is therefore really wrong, an "Eastern" means exactly this kind of genre in german (it dont needs a translation, nor is it used for them anyway).
Lugsciath~enwiki (talk) 07:01, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Ostern as translations of Eastern in context of a movie is big nonsense!

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