Talk:23 skidoo (phrase)

message: The National Film Board of Canada made a short documentary film with this title, listed here.There is an IMDB "stub" for it here, but the NFB link has more info.The theme of this film was the aftermath of nuclear holocaust (specifically, the neutron bomb, which had been in the news around the time the film was made, 1964).  It was nominated for a BAFTA award in 1965 for best short film.  My understanding is that the term 23 skidoo was a Cold War phrase associated with the nuclear threat, something which is not mentioned in this article. Slowmover 15:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NFB Film

message: I'm removing the items in the "Cultural References" section, as follows:
*23 skidoo is a phrase considered to be freighted with latent and portent meaning in the The Illuminatus! Trilogy; the explanation given is that the number is deeply related to the all-important number 5 of Discordianism (as 2 + 3 = 5). 
::No source citation provided. Should not go into the article until a source citation to a published reference can be provided, per the verifiability policy. Dpbsmith (talk) 14:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This web cartoon is not very famous, and "28 Skidoo" does not play an important part in it. Dpbsmith (talk) 14:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Monty Burns said it.Eregli bob (talk) 09:29, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

text: No source citation provided. Should not go into the article until a source citation to a published reference can be provided, per the verifiability policy. Dpbsmith (talk) 14:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed this (again, it appears). Source, please. I spent some time trawling the Internet for   a mention and couldn't find one.--Marysunshine 21:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think this is a correct understanding of the verifiability policy.  When someone is directly quoting a book, film, or TV show, then that material is its own source.  We don't need someone to publish a quote from a Simpsons episode in order to verify it — the episode itself IS the source .  So there is no reason to remove this kind of material unless you are claiming that it is verifiably false.  Slowmover 13:31, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Material removed 

message: I was recently on a tour bus in NYC and the tour guide explained that the derivation of the term "23 skiddoo" actually came from NYC's Flatiron building (seen in The Spiderman movies) which is located on the corner of 23rd Street. It is known as the Flatiron building due to its unique aerodynamic design, which is trinagular in nature, and due to this, creates gusty winds on this particular location. When women at the turn of the century would stand on this corner, the winds would toss up their long dresses so loitering men could see their ankles, which was considered quite risque at the time. When the police would pass this corner and see this, they would holler out: 23! Skiddoo!. In other words: you, standing on corner of 23rd Street.....You're out o' here..... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cathyb108 (talk • contribs) 17:24, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds interesting, but the video accompanying this discussion clearly shows a woman walking over a dark patch on the sidewalk that does what such things still do today, all over New York: when a subway car comes by (under the street) it pushes air up the vent (which is what this patch is) in front of it. Marilyn Monroe is famous for standing on one of these in a color feature film. So it isn't an example of the Flatiron building, but any of a thousand sidewalk vents and should be removed from this page. 74.10.198.105 (talk) 19:38, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: FWIW, the Marilyn Monroe film in question is The Seven Year Itch. --LizFL (talk) 08:25, 23 September 2009 (UTC)

text: It has nothing whatsoever to do with subway grates.  Spend some time in the Madison Square vacinity (where I live), and you'll experience the shifting winds that come from the convergence of a north-south canyon of buildings (Fifth Avenue), a northwest-southeast canyon (Broadway) and an east--west canyon (23rd Street), all funneling air currents to the square.  These currents hit the Flatiron Building like water breaking past the prow of a ship, and the eddies that result are sometimes almost enough to knock you down -- and certainly enough to send hats flying and skirts raising.That's the physical reality of the spot, so there's no need to remove it from the article -- but, of course, the mere existence of such wind eddies doesn't in any way prove that this is where "23 skidoo" comes from, since the explanation could easily be ex post facto.  It is, however, consistent with the explanation. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 05:24, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: 74.10.198.105 isn't saying the effect is due to subway grates, they're saying the video on the page looks like a subway grate.  However, if it's from the era it claims to be (ca. 1901), that's impossible, since the subway wasn't completed until 1904, when what became the Lexington line opened from City Hall to 42nd st, and even then, there was unlikely to have been a grate near the Flatiron building over on Fifth.  But I agree, the video sure looks like a woman walking over a subway grate.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.111.60.208 (talk) 15:27, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Subway grates are typically larger that the rectangle seen on the video -- which, incidentally, doesn't purport to show the sidewalk outside of the Flatiron Building, but just somewhere on 23rd Street.  Since the clip is by Edison, I assume that it's a set-up filmed for commercial purposes, in which case the grate is probably set in a vaulted sidewalk area over a building's basement, with someone stationed below with a bellows to blow up the skirt at the opportune moment. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 17:52, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New explanation for 23 Skiddoo 

message: This info was placed in the disambig page by an anon IP and quite rightly removed. But I think it might contain useful info so I've moved it into the article Talk page:
 Shawn in Montreal (talk) 05:21, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right that it should be integrated into the article, the problem is that it's clearly a straight copyvio lift from somewhere, so while we could use the sub-sections which have cites if were sure the cites were accurate, the provenance of the whole thing being suspect, the cites are suspect as well.  Until we know where it came from, or the individual cites can be run down and verified, I wouldn't consider this to be a reliable source. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 06:12, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't sound like a copy vio to me: it's just not a professionally written piece. Sounds to me more like there's someone out there who's done a lot of research. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:13, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that's why it sounds like a copyvio.  In fact, it's a straight lift from here. Ed Fitzgerald t / c 20:24, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Right-o. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:41, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleted content from the disambiguation page for [[23 skidoo]]

message: The phrase was also used in the Honeymooners episode "Young at Heart". Psalm 119:105 (talk) 09:04, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honeymooners 

message: So what's the proper usage of this phrase in a sentence?  Just by itself? Or something like "Let's 23 skidoo out of here"? Excise (talk) 23:45, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use it in a sentence 

message: My Mom, who was born in 1923, told me that when older kids wanted to shoo her away, they'd say "23 skidoo, small change," meaning that because she was born in 1923 she was too young to hang around with them. I don't think that's a good enough source to include in the article, but I thought I'd mention it anyway. HMishkoff (talk) 01:33, 26 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth year 

message: 23 Skidoo. The intersection of 23rd and East Yesler in Seattle. AKA Skid Row, Skid Road. I remember my Mom telling me back in the late 1950's. When we were driving past, there was a black man with no legs on a creeper pushing himself about. I had never seen a black man and certainly not one without legs. Sorry, just an anecdote. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:243:c501:f300:b1b4:9037:d1d0:6a3d (talk) 15:27, 24 June 2016‎ (UTC)
:Two things: (1) Personal anecdotes without citations from reliable sources to support them aren't terribly useful in building an encyclopedia, and (2) Article talk pages are intended for discussions about how to improve articles, not as a forum to discuss the topic generally.  No harm, no foul, but please keep these in mind in the future. BMK (talk) 21:40, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Anecdote

message: Jazz pianist Herbie Nichols recorded his instrumental, "2300 Skidoo," circa 1955.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ggann (talk • contribs) 13:04, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Herbie Nichols 

message: I suppose it's just a coincidence that this expression is classic Cockney rhyming slang for 'shoot through'. ..🤔 ..!! 125.168.242.251 (talk) 02:16, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the Expression