Talk:Vasculitis

message: Would atherosclerosis qualify as a vasculitis ?  There is a lot of inflammation, too.
PFHLai 13:13, 2004 May 20 (UTC)
:Okay, please make it more specific. Atherosclerosis is not considered vasculitis, really... JFW | T@lk 18:40, 20 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Would

message: This is my first edit and I hope my addition of an "external links" section is appropriate.  I thought there was a need for a link to the Johns Hopkins page because it contains a lot of valuable information. --Cameleopard 17:19, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have any expertise in vasculitis? Could you contribute further to the topic? JFW | T@lk 17:25, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no professional knowledge about vasculitis; I'm not even in any medical field.  My knowledge is limited to what I have been told and read, as a relative was recently diagnosed with primary angiitis of the central nervous system (which is a newer name for primary granulomatous vasculitis or granulomatous angiitis; there is also benign angiopathy of the central nervous system).  There are a few relatively minor things that I've read that may, perhaps, suggest a need for alteration or the insertion of conditionals in the wikipedia article.  For instance, it seems there may be too much certainty expressed in the sentence attributing causes to autoimmune disorders and infections as everything I've read indicates these are at best suspected (additionally, the role of infection-induction may be greater than indicated, in fact causing hyperactivity of the autoimmune system).  Also, areas of the article could be fleshed out a bit.  For instance, angiography and CT scans are common diagnostic tools (and in the case of CNS vasculitis, cerebral arteriography).  Lastly, I'm not sure what the preferred procedure for medical entries on the Wikipedia is, but a couple of sentences on the history of vaculitis might be nice, indicating its rarity, its high mortality rate until recent developments in treatment, and the relative crudeness of treatment.  I can initiate such additions to the article if desired, but I just want to be clear that I am by no means an expert.  I'm presently looking up peer-reviewed articles on vasculitis. --Cameleopard 04:04, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: Atherosclerosis is characterized by a non-specific local inflammatory process which is accompanied by a systemic response. A number of prospective studies in initially healthy subjects and in patients with known atherosclerosis have convincingly demonstrated a strong
and independent association between even slightly elevated concentrations of various systemic markers of inflammation and a number of cardiovascular events. C-reactive protein (CRP), the
classical acute phase protein, seems to be the marker of choice in this clinical situation. The measurement procedure is well standardized and automated, high-sensitivity assays with
sufficient precision are available. In addition, recent research has suggested that CRP may not only be a risk marker, but may be directly involved in the pathogenesis of atherosclerosis.
Various lifestyle changes and pharmacological interventions are able to reduce elevated CRP concentrations. Testing the inflammation hypothesis should be of major importance in clinical research of atherosclerosis.
Deutsches Ärzteblatt 100,
Ausgabe 3 vom 17.01.2003,
Seite A-117 / B-108 / C-105
MEDIZIN
(Germany)
G.S., MD (Germany)
:We've discussed this before. Atherosclerosis has some things in common with "classical vasculitis", but appears to be a pathogenetically distinct entity. For one thing, the immune process alone does not account for atherosclerosis. Treatments normally used for vasculitis do not exhibit great effect on the progress of atherosclerosis and even tend to exacerbate it (would you give IV methylprednisolone to an acute case of atherosclerosis?) I don't think Wikipedia should be in the business of expousing this view where medical opinion seems to be against it. JFW | T@lk 21:58, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Atherosclerosis – an Inflammatory Process: 

message: this really really needs to be made more accessible. it reads like something out of medical school rather than a standard wikipedia article. I wouldn't doubt the information as it certainly does sound authoritative and correct when presented like this... however, I don't think most people will really be able to understand it! it's got way too much medical jargon and the writing style is choppy.
: I tend to agree. I clicked on Leukocyte and was redirected to White blood cell. Wikipedia is NOT a resource for medical students. I hope! 202.7.183.131 (talk) 12:39, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  way too technical 

message: According to this Chicago Tribune article, http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/chi-harold-ramis-dead-20140224,0,2259309.story , Mr Ramis died of "autoimmune inflammatory vasculitis". Is this one of the vasculitis conditions covered by the article, though I don't find the term there. In fact, no "autoimmune" anything is mentioned. As people become aware of his death, more will probably browser-search the term and expect WP to address it. Is there another article that covers it that I cannot find by searching WP? Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 19:05, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harold Ramis & autoimmune inflammatory vasculitis 

message: I wanted to discuss this before I make any major edits as this is a very popular page. I recently had a discussion on the medicine wikiproject regarding better classifications of the different types of vasculitis. I propose that we make a seprate section for classification as it's more relevant to this topic. I've also reformatted the classification to fit the most recent guidelines. My sandbox can be viewed here if anyone has any feedback. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 17:42, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Support, looks very organized and it matches with the (good) source used. I would suggest expanding the Secondary Vasculitis section, perhaps with a bulleted list of possible causes. The 2012 source, at the least, lists out some of those causes. Just-a-can-of-beans (talk) 22:48, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good. I'll do some work on the secondary vasculitis section. CursedWithTheAbilityToDoTheMath (talk) 23:05, 14 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed changes