Talk:Superjail!

message: I like words, but this is Wikipedia, very few people are going to know or want to know what the word "Eponymous" means, nor should they have to; there's already a very fitting word, "Fictional".
195.222.108.158 (talk) 12:35, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Extravagant Grammar

message: Hi, I'm LoganTheGeshrat, and I started the super jail article. This part of the talk page is for general changes to the article. I plan to add an Infobox about the show sooner or later.  Feel free to, like, completely revamp the page if you like, I'm sure the people that edit about TV alot can do much better than I can on this page.  You may have noticed a part of The Warden's character bio is in italics for no reason, if someone could fix this it would be appreciated.  Thanks for all your help!
LoganTheGeshrat 15:52, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: General Changes

message: I found out there's another Superjail article called "Super Jail" it's shorter than this one, do you think we should ask an admin to delete it?
LoganTheGeshrat 15:59, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Other Superjail

message: I enjoyed Superjail, and I would enjoy contributing to this article.  The thing is, the source material is so scant that I think we may have differing interpretations of it (so far)... for example, I am very unsure that the Twins are inmates.  They clearly have priviledges above inmates, but it's unclear to me if they were originally inmates, or brought in by the Warden for his own mysterious purposes.  I also think that since Superjail appears to be the Warden's mentality made real, it's quite possible he was, in fact, planning everything.
Tritium h3 16:16, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hi there!

message: 'Evinced' actually is a widely recognized word..  it basically means 'evidenced'.  Either one works for me though.  Enjoy. MGlosenger 22:20, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evinced 

message: In response to an inquiry, I received an email from Aaron Augenblick:
We're currently working on ten episodes for adult swim.  We're supposed to
premiere in October.  Wait til you see the new stuff.  It's wild!
Check out cartoon brew for a big Superjail article.
Aa
This was sent on March 4th, 2008. I don't know what the best way to get this new information into the article is, but I hope it's useful.
EvilGnomeAndy (talk) 23:21, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  News from Augenblick Studios! 

message: Since every episode has a Jacknife intro, should we at least quickly mention how he got arrested in the quick summary? The Phantomnaut (talk) 22:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, because the first twenty seconds normally has nothing to do with the other eleven minutes.  It would be like listing the chalkboard and couch gags before every Simpsons episode summary. --207.255.199.12 (talk) 04:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: To be fair, it is relevant a few times, such as the serial killer and little girl episodes. Those are exceptions, though, and they do mention him already. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 04:22, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jacknife intros? 

message: The episode list should only be spun off if there's a second season, which I hope happens. --207.255.199.12 (talk) 04:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Episode list

message: Should this be at Superjail? Can we get some citations on copyright and so on for it being at 'Superjail!'? Thanks. ThuranX (talk) 07:02, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Citations aren't needed. It's in the title card, which is in the infobox plain as day, and Adult Swim labels it as such themselves. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 07:10, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: This is in Alice's part of the article: "... which makes the viewers believe that she might be a transsexual (something the Warden appears to be unaware of, or perhaps doesn't mind)."
Do you recall the Combaticus episode wherein the Warden is explaining the benefits of winning the fight? Considering that he lists off "flogging, buggering, and leech treatments" delivered by Alice at one point, and "buggering" is a euphemism for getting fucked in the ass, it would suggest that he knows and just doesn't care.
If I knew how to implement that with any kind of eloquence, I would, but I don't, so I'm leaving it here in case someone else wants to do so.
Pyro (talk) 02:07, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just an observation. 

message: Anyone see the similarities between the guy in Don't Be A Negaton and Scientology?
:No, and without citation from a reliable source, it doesn't belong in the article. ThuranX (talk) 06:00, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow.  I just saw the episode and Scientology was the first thing that came to mind. 86.46.194.177 (talk) 18:40, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scientology Reference? 

message: Recently in the characters section Bird and Gary were removed.  A number of prisoners other than Jackknife occur in more than one episode.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.102.242.198 (talk) 05:55, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, but appearance isn't enough. Jackknife has been a part of the plots of multiple episodes, whether discovering an escape route in a bar, engineering an escape, being the target of the warden's scheme, kidnapping the girl central to an episode, or featuring in the opening of every episode. Other recurring characters appear in the show, but do not significantly move the plots along. This article needs to focus on what's important to the show, and repeating faces in the crowds aren't.ThuranX (talk) 06:24, 17 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: and your opinion on the matter bears any significance why?--Ask a Physicist (talk) 19:33, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Because he's a Wikipedian, just like me and you, and his opinion should be taken into account when editing the page.  It seems like he hasn't gotten his way in the two and a half years since he wrote that, however. --LoganTheGeshrat (talk) 21:19, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: apparently he did get his way because other recurring characters added are being routinely deleted. And no, his opinion does not matter. Wikipedia is not some free for all editable website, where everyone can post and delete what ever they want. It's an encyclopaedia and as such should be comprehensive. If someone wants to know about the character Cancer from superjail, this is where that information should be available and he is wrong to delete it.  --Ask a Physicist (talk) 13:07, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say that the characters section for our page is as detailed as it needs to be.  Wikipedia is supposed to be comprehensive, but not so comprehensive that a girl who only had a main role in one episode and appeared for a total time of one second (I'm serious) in two others should be noted.  Characters sections for TV shows never cover EVERY character, only the ones that are important - The ones that someone would search the show on Wikipedia to find out about.  Cancer, while her episode was a good one, is not one of these characters.  It seems clear to me (someone who remembers the massive reworking of anime character pages to only include the important ones), that this is what the Wikipedia community decided on - It was people like you, me, and ThuranX who decided these rules, and if you want to change them you should take it to an admin.  For now, as a Wikipedian your choice of action should just be hoping that Cancer is important in another episode - When the anime pages were changed, I wasn't happy, but now I've come to terms with the rules, and I suggest you do the same.  --LoganTheGeshrat (talk) 18:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  We could just create a separate page i.e. 'comprehensive list of superjail characters' and link it to the side. Or would that also go against your counter productive rules?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ask a Physicist (talk • contribs) 21:37, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Creating a separate page should give you a little more wiggle room when determining whether a character belongs on the page; after all, one of the main reasons for the rule of only including important characters (which I don't believe is my rule, but rather all of Wikipedia's) is probably to keep the page from becoming too long.  Entire articles devoted to the characters of a show circumvent this because that's what the article is for - Nobody's going to complain that there are too many characters on the page because that's what's supposed to be there.  So go for it.  Just copy and paste what we already have to start with and write about Cancer as much as you want to. --LoganTheGeshrat (talk) 05:11, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

text: He does only appear briefly, but he serves as a generic, expendable, comedic foil. In that sense, he is recurring. --Gyrobo (talk) 18:32, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: All of the other characters listed appear in every episode, while he doesn't. As I said above, he's only appeared a couple of times, and of those the only prominent instance was in the pilot when he was shown sharing a cell with Gary. I'd like to echo Thuranx's comment above that "This article needs to focus on what's important to the show, and repeating faces in the crowds aren't." tildetildetildetilde  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.164.72.59 (talk) 23:19, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recurring Prisoners 

message: Somebody keeps moving Superjail! into the category saying it's confirmed for a second season. Does anyone have a source on that? Korikitsune0 (talk) 17:37, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Outside of AS mentioning it through bumps, hard to say. I've heard that Augenblick studios dropped the show and the creator was looking for a studio to pick it back up. But again, I can't provide citation so it could be pure rumor. --99.186.108.193 (talk) 19:31, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 2 

message: In the episode Time Police pt. II it is revealed The Warden lived with his yelling, obese father who wore a black coat and top hat and wore a plain monocle, The Warden wore purple overalls and a purple baggy hat. He has the yellow glasses and designed Superjail and Jailbot using his "Lego" pieces, which his father gets angry at because he thinks that a flying man watching over a prison is childish, as he states that "this is a place, where serious men, do serious time!" He slips on a Lego and accidentally falls out a window and hangs himself. Gerald, a black accountant says "you're the youngest Warden". The Warden said "he built Superjail because the world wasn't ready for his theories."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.5.161.66 (talk) 02:17, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do you feel it was necessary to mention that his father's accountant, Gerald, is black?!? tildetildetildetilde  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.164.72.59 (talk) 23:22, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of  The Warden 

message: Not to criticise its creator, I'm sure it makes some very factual points, but I think this article misses the point a little. Rather than being just a pandering, psychadelic bloodbath, Superjail is actually incredibly entertaining, with themes and a range of hyperbolic characters that reflect different phsyches in society. Jared for example often represents a compulsive, weak minded ego, who purports to be logical but lives in a state of perpetual anxeity and bows to the slightest temptation, food, alcohol, gambling, and violence, but whom never achieves satisfaction, always having it stripped away from him. The episodes encompass a range of socio-political themes and deal with them in an exaggerated and self-satirising manner, but you only have to scratch beneath the surface to see deeper meanings. One episode I found especially deep was when a young terminally ill girl acidentally ends up in the jail. At first you naturally suspect the inmates intentions, but it transpires all they want to do is spend time with the girl, read her stories, bask in her innocence, they decide to throw a party for her. Warden, who's own childhood was one of ruthless parochial opression, becomes jealous of the girl, at the start of the episode, you see the germs inside his body being attacked by evil black entities, perhaps suggesting the onset of a serious illness. Eventually, his inner anguish becomes so great that his "inner child", beautifully portrayed as a snarling, viscous entity, leaps out of his body to try and destroy the girl (see Eckhart Tolle's work on the "Pain Body".)leaving him as half a person. Eventually, we see the same evil entities in the girl's body, caused perhaps by the stressful environment, and her organs shutting down. She dies, and the grief, both for the characters and the person watching, is quite real I can assure you. I saw the whole episode as an extended metaphore for the potential link one's environment and emotional health could have to serious illness. Regardless of the constitution of the programme, I think this is very clever writing. The article hints at the fact the plot is convaluted, as you can see from my description, it is not linear, but personally I don't have a problem with that, in fact, I think its better. Why would you want to predict the plot every time? Is it not simply offering you something new? Something unpredictable? Maybe that's what people are afraid of. The psychadelic animation, far from being over bearing, is absolutely wonderful. You never know which part of the background or forground is going to move next, and the character animation sequences are superb. Never have we seen such elaboration since Tom and Jerry or Loony Tunes, and this is the next evolution. Some may argue the show is deplorably violent. Look around you, life, in our current stage of evolution, is deplorably violent, and most of it is inflicted on humans by other humans. More than 150 million humans murdered by other humans in the 20th century alone. All artists can do is reflect the society they live in, at least the creators of this programme did it is a cartoon format so as to parodise rather than glamorise, like the vast majority of films do today. I applaud the creators of this programme, and other animations (Boondocks, Drinky Crow Drawn Togther) for the incredible stuggle they must have had getting their art to an audience, and apologise on behalf of the human race for the constant mis-interpretation of their work.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Milsbrik (talk • contribs) 09:51, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You could always be bold and rewrite it so long as it adheres to NPOV and has no original research.--DrWho42 (talk) 07:39, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  I think this article misses the point 

message: Why does the section on Jared link to the "list of Invader Zim characters" section on Dib?  And why does the section on Ash link to Freddy Krueger?  XK5Nkxn (talk) 19:16, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weird inline links 

message: Is there anyone on Wikipedia that will create the article for Ballmastrz 9669? --73.6.75.134 (talk) 23:12, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Will the article for Ballmastrz 9669 ever be created? 

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message: If this show aired for four seasons, then wher is the ratings and reception section? LaundryPizza03 (talk) 02:05, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception 

message: Is it me or is the "Theme song" section utterly inane? The Way of the Fewture (talk) 20:50, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useless "Theme song" and "Home releases" sections 

message: Someone should create the category for Superjail! here on Wikipedia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.6.75.134 (talk) 17:18, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
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