Talk:Bagpipes/Archive 1

message: Is the Silius Italicus quote  the earliest literary reference reference to the gaita? Please adapt as necessary. --Wetman 08:40, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: What quote is this?  I have to say I am generally skeptical - most quotes about bagpipes from early literature turn out to refer to flutes, hornpipes, or other instruments, and have been translated as 'bagpipe' more on the grounds of optimism than serious academic likeliness (that said, there are quite a few references that have been mistranslated into other things, as well).  In any case, any bagpipe in Roman Spain is most likely to have been very different to what is played in modern times.  Calum 16:48, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Gallaecia]] 

message: "The idea of taking a leather bag and comdining it with a chanter and inflation device seems to have originated in Turkey."  The article was just talking about ancient Greeks and Romans using the bagpipes, and back then there was no Turkey as we know it.  Is it talking about the ancient Turks of Central Asia?  Or the region of modern Turkey, that is Asia Minor?  Those are two very different origins. Fishal 21:30, 12 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkey 

message: Ntrobrn added this picture to the section on the Uilleann Bagpipe. But that's a Highland Bagpipe. The piper may be Itish, but the pipes are Scottish! I think the image should be moved out of the Uilleann section, because it is confusing there. Any other opinions? --Craig Stuntz 23:15, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uilleann Bagpipe 

message: I just wonder why this page is independent of the Bagpipes article. It's even shorter than the Great Highland Bagpipe session here.
I think it´s a matter of developing this other article, since it seems to be a nice idea to develop each bagpipes model separatelly. Tonyjeff 18:40, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great Highland Bagpipe 

message: I think that this article has potential to rise to featured status. Not sure how much I could help (maybe it could be suggested for collaboration of the week?) but here are some thoughts on how it could be done; please comment. 
First, I think that most of information about various bagpipe types should be moved to separate articles, with them being marked as main articles. As someone noted above, article on the Great Highland Bagpipe is shorter than its section here. Then, we could add an overview of various types. I don't like the practice of calling local bagpipes by their local name. First, because there are some kinds of bagpipes which are the same but could be called with various names in various countries. Second, because the same or practically the same name could refer to different types; there already is some confusion between gaida, gajdy and gajde. Third, because local name oftenly isn't proper name but simply means "bagpipes" (for example, Serbian "gajde" simply means "bagpipes", so I guess that great highland bagpipes are called "velike gorske gajde" in Serbian while northumbrian bagpipes are called "severnoumbrijske gajde" etc. You got the point.
Does a systematisation of bagpipe types exist, so that the we could structure the article according to it? Nikola 09:58, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restructuring the article 

message: There was mention of a few German bands using the pipes, but it is more than just a few. It is quite popular, and some bands like Corvus Corax use various bagpipes exclusively. In other words, its not just an interesting side note as with KoЯn, but a bagpipe scene unto itself almost. Not sure what to do with this, but here are just some of the bands who use pipes in their music: de:Kategorie:Mittelalterband. Perhaps deserving of its own little section, or not?
:Aren't these Medieval bands?  Mittelalter means "Medieval," right?  So they're not rock bands?  You can go ahead and list whatever you know about that's not already listed and you think is relevant.  Badagnani 03:06, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Except that the gourd isn't a bag.  There are lots of instruments that have multiple pipes that aren't bagpipes, like the Chinese sheng and hulusi, Sardinian launeddas, etc.  Badagnani 03:06, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mittelalter Musik, Related instruments 

message: I was just about to add Ryofu, a band that plays metal on the Northumbrian Smallpipes. They hit the headlines last year as the pipe player received death threats (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/tyne/4075998.stm) from Folk Music Purists... They're quite well known locally, and it is interesting to have a link to a band that plays the Northumbrian smallpipes.. but I'm right in thinking they're _too_ local to go on the list of artists who play rock on pipes, aren't I?
:What a strange combination.  Go ahead and add them.  We do, in fact, have contributors from Northumberland here.  Badagnani 12:18, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  RYOFU and the smallpipes 

message: The text about spanish and portuguese pipes is very poor. Firstly because "gaita" is a generic term such as "bagpipe" in English, and they do distinguish the models by toponims, like "Gaita Galega" or "Gaita Transmontana", exactly as "Great Highland Bagpipe". Futhermore, the article treats all these bagpipes -- Galician, Transmontan, Asturian, Sanabresa, Catalan -- as the same model, what is an absurd. In the case, it seems that the article is talking about the Galician bagpipe. Tonyjeff 15:50, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Iberic pipes 

message: Firstly, I would like to say that this is a terrific article and I am glad to see that the non-celtic forms of the bagpipe get a bit of a run.  I have some very good references at home that discuss the Sicilian bagpipe.  For the moment, the only thing I wish to clarify is that the Sicilian name is ciaramedda and not chiaramedda, and while it is a dying art, it can still be found in use not only in the province of Messina, but further south as well in the province of Catania, where it is also traditionally used at Christmas time.  ρ¡ρρµ δ→θ∑ - (waarom? jus'b'coz!) 00:34, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sicilian bagpipe