Talk:Eli and the Thirteenth Confession

message: The anonymous quote, once attributed to the correct party, regarding the hottest albums of the summer being Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band and the Laura Nyro record belongs on the page for her debut LP, not this one, as it must refer to her earlier LP. Thirteenth Confession came out in the late winter following the summer of 1967, when Sgt. Pepper was the ubiquitous album of the rock world. PJtP (talk) 20:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: hottest record of the summer

message: This article contained some sections that seemed to contain original research ("Concept" and "Analysis") and POV (it isn't the place of an encyclopedia to tell us that songs are good or beautiful).  I have removed the sections that didn't seem to be salvagable in their current state.  A good addition to the article would be a section on critical reception, something I can't tackle right now, but will try to work on next week.  Perhaps another, more Nyro-experienced, editor can help with this?  I have also tagged a couple of statements that I think need citation. Movingboxes (talk) 00:52, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all, nothing has been "destroyed" as it is preserved in the edit history.  The section in question hadn't been improved since the template was placed and there was no indication that any editor was making efforts to improve it to bring it inline with key Wikipedia policies of attribution and neutral point of view (WP:V and WP:NPOV).  As for "proper notice," I don't know what I could have done beyond tagging the article, opening a discussion on the talk page, and waiting to see if improvements would be forthcoming (and none were).  Although your edits may not have contained original research or opinion, the two sections in question contained almost nothing but.  Your "expert testimony" consisted of e-mails that were sent to you personally.  If it was a "groundbreaking event" then there should be no problem finding appropriate, verifiable sources to cite.  I don't know what you mean by "the Cabal," but I feel confident that my actions are consistent with Wikipedia policies.  You are free to seek a request for comment, obviously you don't need permission from me to do so.  Bringing homophobia into the discussion is poor form and it isn't in keeping with WP:AGF.  My only concern is for the quality of the encyclopedia.  I think Wikipedia deserves a high quality article and Nyro deserves an article that goes beyond fan puffery. Movingboxes (talk) 05:56, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

text: I think the link to the Wikia article is a very good idea.  Yesterday I read both the reviews that were linked to in the info box.  Do you think those reviews would form the good basis for a "critical reception" section?  I'd like to include some more recent thought on the album as well.  Also, I would like to change the wording on the link to the Wikia article so that it isn't such a clear POV statement--something like "Link to lgbt.Wikia article discussing 'Emmie' as pop's first lesbian love song." What do you think of that suggestion? Movingboxes (talk) 06:44, 21 August 2008 (UTC)

text: I will let it marinate, as you suggested.  If we can get a free use version of the back cover (I'm not really good on working with images), I think it would be a great addition to the article.  If you can add a link to where it was referred to as part of a "holy trinity" we can add that source to the article--I certainly don't have a problem with the term, providing it is sourced. Movingboxes (talk) 23:43, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:OR]] and [[WP:NPOV]] 

message: The article should explain who "Eli's comin'" refers to?  — Solo Owl (talk) 12:17, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Who was Eli?