Talk:Timeline of Hurricane Katrina

message: Can I urge that we combine the two timelines in this page into one, so for each date we have a list of hurricane events followd by an indented list of political events. This would allow for a better juxtapositioning of information. It would also allow us to interleaf hurricane photos with political photos. --Tagishsimon (talk)
:: I second this motion and recommend a re-name like The Katrina Disaster Timeline, to accomodate the fact that it is not only about the hurricane itself but also about the people affected and the political implications.
:: Above posted by user 84.137.135.124
:: I also think interleafing is essential because of the great temptation of people to insert political stuff in the top, non-political in the bottom, and the fact that some events are a bit of both. 
:: At least for the first few dates, it looks easier to make sure the top section has all the political section stuff.  AlMac|(talk) 18:03, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps the title could reflect other responsibilities of leadership, what's going on with them when this disaster unfolding, how high a relative priority they appear to be giving this. AlMac|(talk) 18:38, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Interleaf hurricane and political timeline

message: If demand continues to have what actually happened as opposed to the political dimension, then it ought to be renamed, because it is POV to focus on Bush without context of State & Local, and the responsibilities of some government agencies to act without waiting on commands from above. 
: Perhaps the title could reflect other responsibilities of leadership, what's going on with them when this disaster unfolding, how high a relative priority they appear to be giving this. AlMac|(talk) 18:38, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political is not just Bush 

message: Currently the first section is about the Hurricane when it first formed, was seen coming, etc.
Would it be appropriate to add a section in front of that about history that is relevant to disaster preparedness for the nation and the geographic area affected by Hurricane Katrina, such as Hurricane Pam and efforts to improve the levee system? AlMac|(talk) 18:42, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Predictability of Levees at Risk 

message: this link and its dated sublinks should be useful for this article's progress. Kingturtle 08:01, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I also found this timeline which lists all that was *said* on press conferences, perhaps we could work that into the article Sp4rk33 11:11, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Such timelines can help us find useful info, but then we should try to go to primary sources, in case of distortion at the secondary write-ups.  Some government agenices publish what was said on THEIR web sites, which also would be good places to direct people who want to see more about what we might be summarizing that was new as of the time of the press conference. AlMac|(talk) 18:09, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  helpful link 

message: I noticed that the article seemed a bit lighter than when I last looked at it: Heres the diff. Seems to be some whitewashing regarding earlier dates.  
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hurricane_Katrina_timeline&diff=23231890&oldid=22893537
-St|eve 21:09, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whitewash? 

message: A timeline like this is nearly worthless without extensive references. — jdorje (talk) 05:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: An additional (bigger) problem is the "Political timeline" which, at a glance, seems to be just half of the regular timeline taken out and put into a separate section.  Did George Bush really authorize the NHC to upgrade Katrina to a hurricane?  This section must be merged back in and the POV parts excised. — jdorje (talk) 00:09, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Todo

message: The article has been cleaned up. Mainly checking & reformatting references, and combining the regular & political timelines into one, based on previous discussions on this talk page. Dr. Cash 07:14, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article cleanup

message: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=106&topic_id=22805
More than 15,000 words of info and reports from all kinds of sources found on the 'net as the events were actually unfolding, not including the additional info provided at the links included . . . some of which info was, subsequently deleted from the 'net since it was potentially embarrassing or for whatever reason . . . .  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Auralee (talk • contribs) 06:08, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  If you haven't done so, pls check against this resource: 

message: This comment does not belong in this article without a referenced source:
 "As of September 19, the official death toll stood at 973. Mississippi had refused to raise its death toll above 218, or to explain why. Thousands of dead in Mississippi and Louisiana have not been counted, nor have the bodies been retrieved." 
Econofire (talk) 12:01, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove unsourced comment 

message: Hi. I have added a citation needed tag to the statement. The TCR makes no direct mention of three landfalls in Louisiana. However, it did say initial landfall in Louisiana near Buras and final landfall on the Louisiana-Mississippi border, but it did not say if it made any landfalls in between. I'm not sure if passing a kilometre over water and then part of its eye making landfall, part of it always over land would count as a landfall, because the coastline is not constant. Although figure 1 in the TCR seems to show three landfalls, it is very difficult to tell for sure if it does because the location circle and the track covers part of it. I have left the information in the article, becasue it is plausible, but I think this might be slightly OR because there is no published direct mention of three landfalls, unless we can get another written source. Thanks. ~AH1(TCU) 16:51, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three landfalls in Louisiana? 

message: This article has portions that state something [and then in brackets say that's actually not true], yet neither statement is sourced. No matter what you know to be correct, the key to keeping WP credible is only posting verifiable facts, and citing them if possible. For example, whether a certain use of the military is illegal under whatever act, the article itself is NOT the place to debate the issue. Unless a neutral secondary source or some noteworthy public figure makes such a claim, it's only your opinion, a novel synthesis of existing facts, and not welcome on WP. This article needs tons of work and dedication to get it back in shape.Dcs002 (talk) 05:55, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is not the place to air out differences 

message: The information covered in this article -- which is poorly sourced as is -- is largely covered in Hurricane Katrina's main article. TropicalAnalystwx13 (talk) 23:01, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this page necessary? 

message: The article has a sentence that reads:
While the normal standards for numbering tropical depressions in the Atlantic indicate that the old name/number is retained when a depression dissipates and regenerates, satellite data indicated that a second tropical wave combined with Tropical Depression Twelve north of Puerto Rico to form a new, much more advanced system, which was then designated as Tropical Depression Twelve.
It seems the bolded Twelve should in fact be Ten? Or am I missing something here?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hawksocc8 (talk • contribs) 21:30, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  TD Ten or TD Twelve 

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