Talk:Korean Social Democratic Party

message: The article displays the usual western bias about that everything in DPRK is an absolute totalitarian sham and absolutely anything that happens is a centrally controlled fake - yet at the same time promotes that the Social Democratic Party calls for multi-candidate elections and better minority rights and so "doesn't actually always support the government". Which one is it? It's a total fake or it has legitimate critisicism? Make the US propagandist make up their minds. --181.26.41.141 (talk) 19:31, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: The only "paradoxical" thing is this article

message: This article mentions nothing about the fact that it is a prop of the North Korean totalitarian dictatorship and is little more than a puppet organization. It is NOT "democratic." --Sesel 19:01, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The proposed merger tag has been here for ages and is trying to merge two entirely different political parties, so I'm going to remove it.--82.45.163.18 21:10, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Here's a proposion of how the fix the last line.
"Most people claim that the party has no real influence over politics in North Korea." --Jonte-- 20:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, for what it's worth, I don't have a problem with your proposal Jonte.  As for what or who is or is not communist at least as of the 1980s-1990s Kim Il Sung never claimed that they were communists.  They were trying for it, but multiple references to moves for 'capturing and occupying the material and ideological fortress of communism...' in volume 8 of the English edition of the Selected Works; indicate that he believed they were still in the transitional socialist period and had not achieved the principle of 'each according to his ability, to each according to his needs....' kev. 10:56, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
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message: This entire article is based on North Korean goverment sites - like the claim it was founded "by medium and small entrepreneurs, merchants, handicraftsmen, petit-bourgeoisie, some peasants, and Christians," (exact copy paste from http://www.korea-dpr.com). That this is a puppet party is obvious, but since the allways fascinated me - like their history. I would love some real facts in to this article. And ofcourse less based on North Korean propaganda. 213.89.254.144 (talk) 08:13, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  More and better sources 

message: As requested, the quote is:
The English version is: In the Constituent Assembly election on 10 May 1948 five candidates from the Korean Democratic Party were running, but only Yi Yun-yong was elected in Jongno District in Seoul. Number 57 19:57, 4 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Encyclopedia of Korean Culture quotation

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message: what is the source for the electoral results you added? – Finnusertop (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:52, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: They appear to be largely taken from the individual election article's results tables, which are sourced. However, the 1948 South Korean parliamentary election result (1 seat) is not in that article. Number 57 16:24, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: On a separate note, Korean Wikipedia has separate articles on the North and South Korean parties (North Korean, South Korean). I wonder whether they are worth splitting here too. Number 57 16:34, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced electoral results 

message: The KSDP has put out a commentary on their website which reads (in part): "Under the socialist system, state sovereignty and the means of production are in the hands of the working masses. Therefore, all policies are implemented in accordance with the interests of the people. The material and cultural wealth created will be distributed to the people. [...] Our country's socialist system is the most superior social system in the world. [...] All party members must retain the pride and self-esteem that our socialist system is the best and must further promote the superiority and power of our style of socialism." This... Doesn't really sound anything like social democracy, no matter how you spin it. Update ideology section maybe? Azurescapegoat (talk) 23:49, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's surprising that the KSDP, whose existence is at the whim of the WPK, is praising the political and economic system put in place by the WPK. The commentary is not about their own beliefs, which is intentionally kept vague in both Korean and English publications. Regardless, the claim of "nominal social democracy" is unsourced in this article, so I am removing it. Yue🌙 03:26, 29 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Social democracy, or socialism?