Talk:Federally Administered Tribal Areas

message: One infobox per province is pointless, so I've added a new generic one for all provinces and territories. Green Giant 00:27, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changed infobox 

message: Between Mansehra District and Shangla/Buner Districts is F.R. Kala Dhaka - this is how it is listed on numerous maps.  It's known as a tribal area and indeed there is no civilian government or army presence there.  So is it also officially a tribal area? It is not listed as an Agency or among the other F.R. listed in the article.
203.82.49.97 07:08, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  what about F.R. Kala Dhaka? 

message: This unusually lengthy history section contains lots of reference numbers ([29], [30]...) without showing the source.  I suspect it's a copy and paste from a book or an article. 24.8.141.185 17:17, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: I've just performed a substantial cleanup of this article, though there is more to be done. Why are there so many quotes without a single reference to where they come from? If these are not correctly footnoted to a published reliable source, they should be removed. I am also very concerned about the neutrality of the section on the extension of the adult franchise to the FATA. Clearly this is an important issue; however, it is very important that this article is written in a neutral, encyclopedic style, and does not push a particular agenda. This section needs to be rewritten and appropriately footnoted. -- TinaSparkle 11:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I appreciate your work on the article. I wish I was an expert on the subject to help you. Great work anyway. --Webkami 15:25, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: Here is a useful source about the situations and problems of FATA. Hope someone will incorporate information from this into the article. 
http://khyberwatch.com/nandara/index.php?option=com_content&task=blogsection&id=9&Itemid=83&limit=9&limitstart=36  
Another article is:
http://www.pakistanlink.com/Opinion/2005/Jan05/14/11.htm
http://www.icdc.com/~paulwolf/pakistan/gelber2dec1962.jpg
—Preceding unsigned comment added by FatehM (talk • contribs) 22:08, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FATA 

message: Table in the Governance section says FATA population in 1998 was c. 3.17 million.  Source is not indicated.  BBC report citing government sources states that population that year was 5.8 million: news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/1711316.stm.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kanbrain (talk • contribs) 23:25, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Governance 

message: The Economy section says a lot right now about what's not happening, but what economic activity is going on there now? -- Beland (talk) 22:33, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economy 

message: There is no mention of the war going on in FATA areas, as well as the PATA (Swat, etc). The US and Pakistani forces have been active in the tribal areas. The Pakistan army which normally manages the roads and peace among the tribes off the roads has been bombing the areas intensely recently, but since the last several years, when militancy had flared. Reports in Bajaur are of 250,000 - 700,000 internally displaced people. The US forces recently (September 03, 2008) landed in helicopters and hit a truck drivers homestead killing between 6-20 people in Angoor Adda (lit. Grape Stop)in Waziristan causing much consternation in the Pakistani Army, government and civil society. The US seems to have backtracked for the moment amid intense military (Mullen) and civil diplomacy (Boucher, Gates). NATO forces in Afghanistan have dissociated themselves from such an approach which involves foreign troops operating inside Pakistani territory. The newly elected Pakistani government (President Zardari) is under pressure internally to stand up to the US and move diplomatically. The argument here is that as a result of the 'War on Terror' - not seen in Pakistan universally as 'our' war - militants have broken away from the self-regulating tribal systems, and as a result of being radicalized and with cooperation from elements across the border and other foreigners have created havoc in the regions after killing many of the 'maliks' the tribal leaders who challenged them. their radicalization, it is argued, is the direct result of the American-NATO military intervention in Afghanistan and the region. The military approach has spelt 'disaster' with war throughout FATA and other territories such as Swat. A different approach is needed, said the NATO commander Joop de Scheffer. similar voces are sounding throughout Pakistan. Whether the drones (carrying as much arsenal as F-16s) being used to bomb targets will continue to routinely bomb the FATA tribal areas at will, given the leeway soldiers have taken with civilians in a foreign location such as iraq or afghanistan, remains to be seen.
Pakistanis fire at US forces
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7396366.stm
Dislaced people
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/7582576.stm
the attack at Angoor Adda
http://thenews.jang.com.pk/top_story_detail.asp?Id=17008
The point of all of this is that recent update - covering the last 2 decades - are needed here.
Its also interesting to note the definition of tribal areas. This is defined very specificlly in the Constitution of Pakistan.
http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/constitution/part12.ch3.html
--Ibn-arabi (talk) 21:40, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  War in FATA 

message: The region is only nominally controlled by the central government of Pakistan. In reality it is practically entirely controlled by the Pashtons, the region is controlled by tribal elders and not external taliban insurgents.
I've removed that bit about the Taliban.  It's unsourced.  It smells like OR.  It's begging the question.  150.203.35.113 (talk) 05:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was sourced, but this edit removed the citation. I have reinstated the cite with a complete quote. I also tagged the section with . 84user (talk) 23:18, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who says the Taliban controls FATA? 

message: The Government of Pakistan should renamed Federally Administered Tribal Areas as Fatally Administered Terrible Areas (FATA). Because, if it is seen, the action on War of Terror can be seen more on FATA instead of Afghanistan. In past couple years, Pakistan military has engaged in bloody, fierce, and intensified fighting against Pakistani Talibans. It is the center of conflict; in FATA, Pakistani forces and talibans has lost more men than they have in Afghanistan.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.49.198.147 (talk) 08:19, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal Thoughts

message: I have added :Federally Administered Tribal Areas to Wikipedia:Copyright problems/2009 May 11 with this edit. 84user (talk) 00:38, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I found a large copyvio (mixed with suspected copyvio, source as yet unknown) took place on 13:17, March 21, 2007 with this edit. 84user (talk) 00:53, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright problems 

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: Here we say the 7 frontier areas are part of FATA, but in the Xaiber Paxtunxwa article we say they're part of that. ?? — kwami (talk) 11:28, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious status 

message: ]>> Pakistan's FATA: Lawless no more? (Lihaas (talk) 15:08, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
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message: Since many edits are being made regarding the FATA-KP merger, it should be noted that while the amendment has been passed in the National Assembly and the Senate, it still needs to pass in the KP Assembly and assented to by the president before the merger actually occurs. Please wait until  this has happened before referring to FATA as a former administrative division or as disestablished.Avg W (talk) 18:30, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Note - as far as I can tell, the 31st amendment has still not been signed by the president. This article published today specifically states the president has yet to sign it https://dailytimes.com.pk/246106/for-fata-residents-the-good-news-may-be-short-lived/ Avg W (talk) 11:53, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

text: Now that there is a source saying so, yes Avg W (talk) 02:37, 2 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  FATA-KP merger 

message: Some sources and atlases list the former region as having no capital (being governed from Islamabad) while a few list Miramshah as the capital. Was Miramshah in anyway a capital of the bygone region? Did Miramshah have limited regional governance over the region while most important government seats were in Islamabad? This makes me confused.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Otis the Texan (talk • contribs) 02:31, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: There was no capital. Each of the 7 tribal "agencies" (now districts) have their own capital. Khestwol (talk) 02:35, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Capital city