Talk:Karan (caste)

message: In HINDU SCRIPTURES portion we can also add that in Manusmriti the karanas are mentioned among the various tribes who were Vratya Kshatriyas.
Source - Read Manusmriti 10.22-10.23 Anid677543 (talk) 17:05, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Lemonaka (talk) 21:54, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 January 2023 

message: The spelling of "Medieval" is wrong and has been typed as "Mediaeval" instead, it can be ffpund in the heading 'Mediaeval Period'.
The paragraph immediately above that, under the heading of "Hindu Scriptures" is completely wrong and misleading. I myself belong to the Karana caste and it has been stated as a forward, upper caste where as here it says that according to Hindu scriptures Karanas were the offsprings of Vaishyas and Shudras which technically belong to the lower castes, and thus this is not possible. WHat I think has happened is that there has been a confusin between the caste name Karan and the Mahabharata charater Karan who are completely unrelated. The warrior Karan was called the son of a charioteer and hence he was mistakenly thought to be belonging to a lowwer caste. This confusion might be the reason as to why such a misleading paragraph has been inserted in this wikipage w.r.t. the caste called Karan.
Here is that particular paragraph which I'm referring to:
Hindu Scriptures
Various Hindu scriptures such as Smrtis and Puranas mention Karan as a mixed caste.[6] According to puranic accounts, the offspring of a Vaishya father and a Shudra mother is called a Karan, which places them below Vaishyas & above Shudras as per Manu's law.[7] Amarkosha mentioned Karan along with Ambastha & Chandalas as mixed castes.[7] Coolbrooke also supports the mixed origin of Karan mentioned above.[8]
Kindly remove it. I'd be much obliged. Singh.abhisekh (talk) 12:10, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: First, the use of Mediaeval is an WP:ENGVAR issue. This article is written in Indian English, which usually usues the British English spellings of words, including "Mediaeval", rather than the American English "Medieval". Second the rest of your request lacks reliable sources, and it isn't clear exactly what changes you want made. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 13:12, 19 February 2023 (UTC)

text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Mako001 (C)  (T)  🇺🇦 13:13, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 February 2023 

message: it is clearly mentioned in Madalapanji , manu smurti that karana are khestriya but why you guys are degrading a respected community by writing misleading facts i will go to court and sue the writer 
This is not a small mistake.
It may promote hatred 
So kindly fixed it.......
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/elections/lok-sabha-elections-2019/odisha/news/reign-of-patnaiks-40-years-and-counting/articleshow/68858700.cms
https://books.google.co.in/books?id=-Q_gAAAAMAAJ&pg=RA2-PA34&dq=ray+karan+caste&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjpvsPK_Nf3AhVyxosBHR5gCTQ4KBDoAXoECAUQAw Artifact7890076 (talk) 04:57, 2 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Please note that Manusmriti & all are considered as WP:PRIMARY i.e. primary sources and cannot be cited! News articles are considered as unreliable sources as far as caste articles are concerned, and this particular article doesn't even talk about your Kshatriya claim; please find reliable & verifiable sources by modern scholars / reliable authors first! Thanks. Ekdalian (talk) 06:29, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please correct the Portion of Hindu scriptures  

message: Please copy the origin section from this article and paste it here. I already cited reliable sources there. JudeB5 (talk) 03:08, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition of Origin