Talk:Genuine progress indicator

message: There is no explanation of how the various costs are monetized. A marriage is nice, but how much is it worth in $? And what about people who say marriage is not nice? 151.197.244.192 (talk) 04:47, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to monetize the costs? 

message: Surely not only in crazy "economics" ... don't the Austrian measures like GPP/PPR/GPO count?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.73.167.157 (talk) 03:02, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  a concept in green economics and welfare economics 

message: Germany has the highest export in Europe, second largest exporter in the world, especially the renewable energy, while Ireland has the highest export ratio in the developed world and sustainable high growth rate even it is highly developed.219.151.158.84 (talk) 08:32, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Germany and Ireland could be the top 2 countries by Geniune progress indicator? 

message: What the heck?  People who don't understand economics talk about consumption vs capital accretion as if those where fungible entities.  Like, I have 10 units of production and I can consume 8 and invest 2 or I can consume 9 and invest 1.  This shows a very naive way of looking at economics, as capital investment might very occasionally by limited by investment funds, but the vast majority of the time, capital investment will be limited by market availability.  A more reasonable model is that you actually increase capital production when production for consumption goes up.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.72.73 (talk) 23:15, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: "Income" vs. "capital depletion" 

message: I would like to develop the GPI article by adding the main findings and methodological contributions of the Utah study. BerikG (talk) 04:50, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Utah (USA) has a GPI study now (since January 2011) 

message: So is there no country list with GPI? All the other econ/development metrics: HDI, HPI, Gini coeff, et al have a section or link for the findings or results, has no one ever bothered to measure nations on a large scale with GPI or is it just not on wiki?
108.55.82.13 (talk) 16:31, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The GPI is more of a general idea - or a rejection of existing economic measures - rather than a precise and universally agreed metric. This means that we don't have a single definitive list of GPIs for each country, although I'm sure a few commentators will have their own ideas about what numbers should go into a GPI. bobrayner (talk) 17:48, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  results/rankings? 

message: The external links section contained a number of inappropriate links (see WP:ELNO). They might make good sources to support article content so I've moved them here:
*Hansard record of Canadian House of Commons debate of June 2, 2003
*GPI Atlantic
*GPI Pacific
*GPI at Redefining Progress 
*Alberta GPI at Anielski Management Inc.
*Alberta GPI at The Pembina Institute for Appropriate Development
*Most recent Sustainable Development Indicators for Canada
*Genuine Progress Index for Atlantic Canada
*GPI at the US state of Maryland
*Vermont Establishes a Genuine Progress Indicator
*Measuring sustainable Well-being on sub-national level with Genuine Progress Indicator (GPI) in Finland: Päijät-Häme, Kainuu and the area of Center for Economic Development, Transport and the Environment for South Ostrobothnia, 1960–2009
Jojalozzo 03:02, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inappropriate external links 

message: I would like to work on this page for a college project. There are many more US states that have implemented the GPI along with a few follow-up reports. I'd like to add more details in the US section. Also, as I come across other countries' use of the indicator, I'd like to add these as well. I will add links to appropriate pages for things like how to understand better the reasons why it is hard to value things we don't buy at the store (i.e. life, clean water) and how we find ways to do it. I hope that page exists! Any input is appreciated and constructive criticism accepted. MeetingoftheMinds (talk) 01:31, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ready for some updates! 

message: Anyone able to figure out how to calculate, then increase, one's home/apartment and/or business GPI score? TOO, it would also be helpful for people looking to move to an area without an opportunity so visit the area before signing a rental/lease/vacation/retirement/university/college/dorm room agreement. I don't mean a city, county/prefecture, or small "s" (sub-federal) state/province, I mean a building lot or a particular city block. Eg, flowers are nice, but they decrease available water and don't do anything to stop noise, sight, or air pollution at the balcony of a house condemned to overlook a national road/freeway/throughway/turn-pike.
108.13.17.82 (talk) 03:46, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Micro Level

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message: Quote: "GDP is relatively straightforward to measure compared to GPI. Competing measures like GPI define well-being, which are arguably impossible to define. "
So many things wrong with this last sentence. GPI is conceptually a straightforward correction to GDP. An increase in car accidents and a resulting increase in insurance premiums, growth of insurance companies and an increase in repair shops -- and a resulting increase in GDP -- is not a sign of a functional economy. It's a sign of a badly broken society. Destructive activities, which have measurable costs, are NOT productive. Gpi-v2 (talk) 21:40, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I came here to say almost exactly this. Subtracting the cost of (environmental) depreciation is fairly straightforward and not per se any more "incommensurable" than consumption and gross investment. I could reasonably see criticism with regard to the specific methodology used (fixed return on the value of assets like streets), but what's levied in the criticism section is not particularly substantive.Jokojis (talk) 00:11, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism of criticism