Talk:Donald Tsang

message: #Support per arguments given ad nauseum above, including this one and this one in particular. Let's be clear that this is not a BLP violation, for now it's been proven false. The title, given to a career civil servant for 30 years' loyal service to the Crown, is highly notable and although it's not 'actively used', there are no grounds for excluding the title and postominals from the lead section per WP:WELLKNOWN. --Ohconfucius ¡digame! 11:40, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Support to the use of the Title(s)

message: #The title should not be used since the subject himself does not use it. I have explained my rationale below in the extended discussion section. — Nearly Headless Nick {c} 10:40, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Opposition to the use of the Title(s)

message: Jiang has asked me to clarify my close above. On rereading the discussion, my conclusion is that the RfC only addressed whether or not Tsang should be titled "Sir" and that the RfC concluded that he should not, primarily because of blp issues. However, the discussion is inconclusive as to whether a mention of the fact that he is entitled to be styled "Sir Donald Tsang" is due in lead. I assume that such a discussion would revolve around WP:WEIGHT rather than blp issues if the text clearly indicates that he prefers not to use the title but that's another discussion.  --regentspark (comment) 19:26, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarification on RfC close

message: Pursuant to the discussion above, I have gone ahead and removed the portion of text that says that Donald Tsang is entitled to be styled as "Sir Donald Tsang".  This information can be re-introduced in to be body section of this article rather than kept in the lead in accordance with WP:WEIGHT.  The fact that he was knighted is significant and it receives sufficient coverage in the lead section.  In case the material is reintroduced in the body text, it should accurately represent the sources it claims to represent and devoid of any personal interpretations or deductions of an individual editor on the subject (please see WP:ORIGINALSYN). Thanks. — Nearly Headless Nick {c} 05:14, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lede section 

message: I was living at Hong Kong from 1967 until 1984. I'm currently living in Brunei.
When I was living at Hong Kong, Hong Kong was a part of the UK, so that Hongkongers' nationalities were British. However, as you all know, Hong Kong is under the Red China since 1997. So that what is the nationality of Hong Konger? Still British or now Red China?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by IamZainal (talk • contribs) 12:54, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is his nationality actually? 

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message: In October,  replaced the infobox image :File:Donald Tsang WEF.jpg with :File:Donald_Tsang_on_Paterson_St_cropped.jpg of Tsang at the World Economic Forum in 2012.  reverted the change because the image is blurry. 61.238.15.124 then replaced the original image with :File:Donald Tsang WEF Unbiased.jpg. After Donald_Tsang_WEF_Unbiased.jpg was removed from Commons due to a non-free license and removed from the Donald Tsang page by a bot, 61.238.15.124 replaced it with :File:Don&Selina.jpg of Tsang and his wife at a premiere, later in the day switching it to :File:Don&Selina 220.jpg, the same image but with Tsang's wife cropped out.  changed the image back to the original. 's first contribution to Wikipedia was undoing Clithering's reversion and noting that their edits had been reverted three times. 
In November, Clithering again reverted Nevermind3017's change, due to image quality. Nevermind3017 changed the image back to Don&Selina 220.jpg, adding that the image is sharper, more formal, more suitable for BLP and faster to load.  reverted this change, saying that the image is poorer in quality. Nevermind3017 switched it back, clarifying that they meant sharper than the previous image they had uploaded. None of the other options I could find in Commons are of good quality. 
In January,  changed the image back to the original along with making some other edits to the page. Nevermind3017 reverted this. In March, Lmmnhn changes it back along with other edits, again with no explanation.  reverts three of Lmmnhn's edits. Lmmnhn reverts the reversion, noting the lower quality of the image and requesting Kirbanzo stop undoing edits without explanation. Nevermind3017 has now reverted the image back to Don&Selina 220.jpg.
		
It seems like it might be more efficient to have a discussion about which image should be used than to continue the back-and-forth editing.
Don&Selina 220.jpg is undeniably blurry. It does seem preferable to use a picture with a smiling face like this has. Donald Tsang WEF.jpg is a better photograph, but Tsang's face looks a bit concerned rather than neutral or smiling. I'd say this image also has the advantage of being more indicative of his political career than the premiere image. In short, I prefer the original.—A L T E R C A R I  ✍ 10:19, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for this. I prefer :File:Donald Tsang WEF.jpg as it is a much better quality photograph at a much higher resolution. :File:Don&Selina 220.jpg is poor quality (blurry, noisy) and of a tiny resolution. Citobun (talk) 02:44, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

text: Thank you. I agree. --Clithering (talk) 15:32, 13 June 2018 (UTC)

text: I'll prefer the WEF one since it would be the best one in terms of quality. Kirbanzo (talk) 16:12, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox image 

message: Hi, I feel that it's not fair to disallow the use of Sir for Donald Tsang. While I noted that there has been a lengthy RfC debate on whether to include the use of "Sir" for Donald Tsang in 2012, arguments had been premised on interpretations of existing Wiki policies and guidelines - which can go both ways.
If "Donald Tsang" article is not to allow the use of "Sir" title, how about the case of other HK personalities, such as Chung Sze-yuen and Kan Yuet-keung? The "Sir" honorific is used at the very start of the article. Please, this an obvious of double-standard enforcement of Wiki policy and guidelines, and I think it deserves to be relooked. Mr Tan (talk) 16:50, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for Comment 2020: Usage of "Sir" title