Talk:Tōshirō Hitsugaya

message: hitsugaya's bankai doesn't allow him to fly. you might notice when hirako first made himself known to ichigo he was walking on air. ikkaku and eduardo were "flying" in their fight as well. there is no real flying per se in bleach. they are souls remember so just like a ghost they can natrually levitate like that. hitsu's bankai has nothing to do with it, its part of being a soul. if it was his bankai how was shawlong, renji, ikkaku, eduardo, il forte etc all flying in their fights? --Grimjaw 01:47, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Depends on how you want to look at it. The phenomenon that allows them to "fly" is by concentrating the spirit particles at their feet; Zangetsu explained that to Ichigo. Technically, they're "standing" and "running" in mid-air thanks to the spirit particles around them. Getting back with Hitsugaya, let's use episode 60(or 61) of the anime for reference. When Hitsugaya moves in to attack Aizen before Aizen owns him, it's given the impression that he rose, and flew(then crashed and burned) towards Aizen. And you don't think those huge wings are just for decoration, do you? --Chemicalist 16:12, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Even if the wings permitted realistic flight, which they wouldn't given their composition, Hitsugaya's flight wouldn't necessarily be attributed to them. All shinigami can walk on air to one degree or another. Even Ichigo could less than a week after becoming one. I'd attribute the flapping to reflex motion. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 04:25, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Furthermore, the wings aren't actually flapping constantly to maintain flight, if anyone cares to look. Sephiroth BCR 04:26, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Flying vs. Airwalking

message: Did he really kill Luppa? From all we know that Luppa could have survived the attack, since there was no direct indication of her complete defeat. (She could be injured, but survives)
:Hey, edits are cheap, and Luppi seemed pretty well finished. If it turns out we are wrong, we can always fix it. Also, Luppi seems to be a guy. --tjstrf 07:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Luppi battle

message: This article currently states that Hitsugaya's theme song is "This light I see" this is not true, it was only on a CD with songs done by Hitsugaya, Rangiku and Hinamori. hopefully this will be corrected with a bio of hitsugaya in the new volume 23--Lord Kefka 23:53, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theme song 

message: Hitsugaya's zanpakutou is worn on his back, because, like Ichigo's, it is not of standard size.  Hitsugaya's zanpakutou is somewhat larger than a standard zanpakutou, and could be a No-Daichi.  -Emhilradim 23:09, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: During the fight between Hitsugaya and Ichimaru both swords look about the same size. I think it just looks big because Hitsugaya is only 4 feet 4 inches tall while everyone else is 5'6" to 6 feet tall. Just imagine a 10 year old wielding a 3.5 foot katana and you can probably see why Hitsugaya has to wear it on his back. Gdo01 23:18, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ichimaru's sword is much smaller, more like a tanto or wakizashi (the anime depicts it as a wakizashi, but the games suggest it is a tanto). StardustDragon 04:37, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

text: And that would make him look like a kid, which he would hate. --Eruhildo 03:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

text: One inch? It probably varies in relative length by more than that from panel to panel. How are we supposed to tell? --tjstrf talk 23:13, 3 July 2007 (UTC)

text: That's basically what one of the above paragraphs states.  This is an old discussion.  No need to get excited.  Jezebel Parks 01:54, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No-Daichi 

message: The artical states that Hitsugaya is the youngest, but it never shows how old he is.  Being a serious Whitey-Chan fan, this is probably the only thing I don't know.  Help? 24.29.42.15 22:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But we don't know his age exactly.  Plus, if Rukia as old as she claims in the first episode (100+) then, 13 is incorrect.  In short, until we have word from Kubo, then there will be no mention of his age. Jezebel Parks 22:20, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age? 

message: I've noticed that his sword in bankai is different than in sealed form or in shikai. His sealed sword's guard is shape of a four-pointed star, but in bankai his sword's guard that star is at least eight-pointed.
:That's pretty normal, since the entire point is that the bankai changes the form of the sword. I hadn't noticed though. You may add it if you wish, but it would be nice if you could point out a page where it's clearly shown. --tjstrf talk 22:56, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bankai 

message: So... where do people find the VA's for the characters, and if they got it from A.N.N., how did the person who put it there find out?
Just a thought, concerning Hitsu's VA.
*Some people look at all the VA's resumes, until they see the character's name imprinted in there? That's my guess. But it takes a lot of time. They also just guess, usually. Weird0 06:42, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  voice actor. 

message: I find it weird that everything about Hitsugaya is elaborated except for Shawlong's battle with him. Every other character has their fight during this time mentioned but Hitsugaya's battle with Shawlong has never been added except for the part in powers talking about the incomplete bankai. I'll write it myself once I have the time but I just find it odd; a small sentence would have been enough. Gdo01 06:42, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shawlong battle 

message: Since the trivia section disappeared, I'm posting here to see if someone wants to attempt to merge it. 71.226.56.79 09:38, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: It say's "His given name is also a homonym for a casual Japanese term meaning "amateur" (藤四郎), possibly referring to Hitsugaya's young age and inexperience relative to the other captains of the Gotei 13" twice. I'm not sure which should be deleted, so I'll let someone else do it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Samehada226 (talk • contribs) 
:Next time, be bold. σмgнgσмg 06:13, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: More like vice-versa, but that was just one filler episode and is too minor to add to the article. --Eruhildo (talk) 20:52, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Twice 

message: In that special about him, wasn't the dragon he talked the form of the spirit of his zampakuto, like the old man is zangetsu and the baboon is zabimaru?--Tosta mista (talk) 21:17, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Post new talk to the bottom. And yes, that is what the article says…—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 23:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hyorinmaru

message: Why is there no "reception" section on Hitsugaya, whereas there is one for other characters?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bill114 (talk • contribs) 18:34, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: 'Cause I suck and can't find info for it. Suigetsu 18:26, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oi Bill, sign your posts with four tildes (~~~~). If no one else can find recep, you can at least try, right, Bill-kun? IceUnshattered (talk) 18:40, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception? 

message: Rukia appears in two Beat Collections, one with Byakuya and one with Orihime.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Licourtrix (talk • contribs) 14:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: NO WAI Suigetsu 15:22, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Media 

message: There's zero real-world notability for Hitsugaya. If we merged Grimmjow and Ulquiorra, we should merge him, because his page is essentially the same thing. Suigetsu 23:41, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hitsugaya has a potential for improvement (ie. reception info existts). Grimmjow and Ulquiorra did not share that potential. ~SnapperTo 23:44, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Any idea where to find it? IGN, SJ, interviews, what? Suigetsu 15:16, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd imagine it's one of those.</helpfulness> ~SnapperTo 18:04, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Couldn't find anything in IGN last night in my huge-ass sweep of character reception additions, despite the fact that Hitsugaya reception was my primary target in that escapade. Even if we can't find the information that already exists, apparently Kubo is in America for a convention according to SJ. Maybe they'll score an interview with him? Suigetsu 18:25, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My sweep was not quite as "huge-ass", but I couldn't find anything either =( IceUnshattered (talk) 18:45, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Otaku? Well, maybe fujoshi, but Hitsugaya's mostly popular with the kids. As for whether we merge the article or not, I don't really care either way, as he's had very little actual plot relevance. --erachima talk 18:13, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, to be honest we don't have much in-universe shit on him either... what is it that makes this guy so popular? 70.138.167.143 (talk) 00:01, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Added a bit of reception and considering that the Kenpachi article was not merged, I think its okay.Tintor2 (talk) 17:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Kenpachi's, however, is strengthened by the various conception information we have from Kubo, such as the thing about his hair and wanting to go more in-depth with him. We have one quote and Newtype for this one. My vote still goes to merging. 207.80.142.5 (talk) 18:17, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Kenpachi only has a sentence. Not a big difference.Tintor2 (talk) 21:37, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Once again, conception info from Kubo in addition to the quotes from IGN > Newtype and one quote from ANN. However, since you also got the part about merchandise (which could have saved Urahara's article, on reflection), I think the article is fine. Suigetsu 23:16, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Why does this article need to exist?

message: The new Movie; DiamondDust Rebbellion offers a crystal clear picture of Hyourinmaru, and in my opinion, it looks better than the current one we have. It's different, also.
I would put it up but there's one thing bothering me. It was Kusaka's Hyourinmaru, so I don't know if Hitsugaya's Hyourinmaru looks exactly the same, since in the movie, they don't.(Kusaka's Hyourinmaru's form and color are slightly different)
Eternally (talk) 12:28, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New picture of Hyourinmaru? 

message: I propose that page be moved to Toshiro Hitsugaya, per MoS:ANIME. (Moon) and (Sunrise) 06:13, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "Tōshirō Hitsugaya" is equally, if not more so, preferred by WP:MOS-ANIME and WP:ANIME as that is what he's called in the manga. ~SnapperTo 19:09, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Which manga do you mean? I don't read the English ones so I wouldn't know which one you mean. (Moon) and (Sunrise) 23:07, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think he refers to the volumes by Viz Media.Tintor2 (talk) 23:18, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct. And since WP:Anime currently places the manga at the top of the authority food chain, the ō's have it. ~SnapperTo 23:48, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 

message: I recommend that an abilities and attacks section be added for Hitsugaya, especially after the recent manga chapter release (358). He has more abilities and attacks than any other character from Bleach  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.48.105 (talk) 11:14, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abilities and Attacks 

message: I've removed the comment from the head of the article, saying he was voted most popular in the "latest Shonen Jump polls".  I searched back through the edits two years (back to Dec 2007), and the statement was present even then.  So what defines "latest"?  Note that no date was attached, nor any updates given to reflect this character's popularity in any subsequent polls.
I'm also looking at the "latest" and "recently" comments in the Reception section of the article.  Terms like this shouldn't be used, as they become meaningless as time passes.  -FeralDruid (talk) 07:19, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Found the edit that introduced the Reception section, and the "latest polls" comment on 3 October 2008. -FeralDruid (talk) 07:28, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

text: And here's the edit that introduced the "latest polls" comment in the header on 3 January 2007. -FeralDruid (talk) 07:32, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I found a reference to four popularity polls on the Bleach wiki, as of February 2008. So I changed the "latest" polls reference under Reception to say "early 2008" as there's no specific date given (January or February).  -FeralDruid (talk) 07:42, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popularity 

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