Talk:Saskatchewan Party

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Could Ardenn quit vandalising this page and contribute something? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.145.236.153 (talk • contribs) 
I see the trolls are back (ie: Grant Neufeld).
64.110.251.69 05:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The claim is made that there was a corruption scandal, and that said corruption scandal, involving certain members of the Sask PC Caucus, affected the 1991 election.  The first individual wasn't even charged until 1993.  So obviously this would be impossible.
CJCurrie, it is completely innappropriate to blindly revert edits without justification.  Rumour and innuendo generally do not belong in the article either, let's stick to fact, not baseless speculation.
64.110.251.69 06:10, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scandal didn't hit until 1993 

message: I've reviewed the two version that are being considered now, and believe that the aanonymous editor's edits -- for example, deleting the cited fact that Brad Wall had been a part of the PC Party -- are an attempt to modify the article to make it biased in favour of the Sask Party. I have reverted to CJCurrie's version. If there are elements of that version that are incorrect or biased, the anon editor should identify them here for discussion. From my experience, CJCurrie is very reasonable in trying to find a neutral point of view, so I believe that he will accept reasonable suggestions for changes. Ground Zero | t 12:42, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reversion

message: Quoting:
*For the first 30 years of Saskatchewan's history, the provincial Liberals could be argued to have been its liberal party, too, assiduously courting ethnic minorities as well as agrarian and labour activists.
*The party was hounded by the NDP with accusations of having secret undisclosed plans to privatize all of the province's crown corporations. The leader, Elwin Hermanson, was put on the defensive, stating he would not sell the four major crown corporations to private business, but would consider any offers received by private business on other crown corporations. It was rumoured that Preston Manning, the former leader of the Reform Party, had been approached by Hermanson to develop a transition team for government takeover, likely to begin the implementation of the Saskatchewan Party's platform planks.
*So powerful did the CCF and its successor, the New Democratic Party, become in the province that a basic rule of Saskatchewan politics held that (in the words of one veteran political journalist) "Saskatchewan politics shall for evermore consist of the NDP -- and one other party". The only question was, "what other party?"
This all reads like some sort of tabloid, not an encyclopedia article, and definitely needs to be addressed. More sources are also required to substantiate many claims here. (|-- UlTiMuS 17:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have attempted to clean up some of the bias and unencyclopedic tone in the article.  I left most of the information on the page intact (though reworded), and so have grouped a number of points which probably do not belong in the Saskatchewan Party article under the heading "Clashes with the NDP Government".  Most of these points are WP:Trivia and should probably be moved to the relevent articles or deleted.--T. Mazzei 01:09, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I removed 2 cites.  The first was a mistake, and has been reinserted.  The second was irrelevant to the article.  Don Hoth's opinion as a party member, until it becomes official party policy, is relevant to Don Hoth's article, not this one.  --T. Mazzei 00:30, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

text: For all I know, you and User:GreenJoe are one and the same, since he also reverted my edits with no reason or discussion.  As I stated above, I have removed only one cited source.  That particular citation has never been discussed, either on this page or the archive.  I have stated why it should be removed.  You have not stated one reason why it should be kept. Regardless, there is no reason for you to revert all of the changes I made to the document over one sentence of cited text.  Edit it back in and we can continue the discussion it further.--T. Mazzei 05:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)

text: So you see an edit war and then you picked sides by reverting it to the anonymous users version of the document.  Thank you anyway for requesting protection for the article.--T. Mazzei 05:23, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Right now I reverted it to your version. I realized my error. GreenJoe 05:38, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, I appreciate it. Did my name pop up on some sort of list?  I've gotten 3 warnings for reverting this page in ~1 hr in spite of the fact this has been going on for a week or two.--T. Mazzei 00:26, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unencyclopedic Tone

message: I can believe that some leading members would be involved with the federal Liberals but why on Earth would any members of a centre-right, conservative party like the Saskatchewan Party be involved with the federal NDP? They are further to the Left than the Saskatchewan NDP, can anybody actually produce some proof of this claim? It's located in the affiliation section. (Canadianpunk77 00:34, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, their base support is still Tory...and even if the federal party does one thing or has a certain policy, does not mean that the provincial party with a similar or close ideology have to share the same policies. What political parties often do is create policies based on what the local population wants or needs. From what you are telling me here, they are following a similar plan to the pre-1984 conservatives, federally and provincially. Conservative parties in the past have tendencies to do some of the most left-wing things, such as the Ontario PC Party in the Post-war dynasty from 1943 to 1985, in which they introduced Medicare in Ontario, introduced legislation to ensure women received equal wages and introduced voting rights for Natives in Ontario. They also increase and expanded public health and public education in the late 1970s and early 1980s. nat Lest We Forget. Remember the sacrifice. 05:40, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Affiliation with the NDP?

message: The original Saskatchewan parties should not be described as "left-wing" and "right-wing", because to the extent these terms were used at the time, they did not describe these parties positions, and they did not use these terms themselves.  The terms "liberal" and "conservative" might be more appropriate, which were the names these parties used.  --The Four Deuces 02:50, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Liberals/Conservatives 

message: Not being from Saskatchewan, I am wondering if it would be possible to strengthen this article's value as a "Canadian" rather than provincial piece, i.e. if more coverage of policy and major actions was available perhaps? My feeling from the outside is that much of the rest of the country is unaware of the political scene in the province, and that with a little work this article could be valuable for those of us who take an interest in issues nationwide.
While I'm not up to the task of writing it, again I am looking for more perhaps more content on platform - this article (IMHO) seems focused on tactics and history, and may not even be NPOV as-is.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.167.89.139 (talk) 13:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Value in WikiProject Canada 

message: I removed the maintenance template as it appears the article is cited both correctly and sufficiently.  Krj373*(talk), *(contrib)  20:15, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maintenance Template. 

message: Listen, User:Braganza this party hasn't been center since 2015, and that's generous. Especially now with Brad Wall gone, all the original Luberal party members gone, and the party in an all out embrace of right wing ideology and policy. BlewsClews (talk) 02:56, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Sry, but are you sure that Saskatchewan Party this party is more right-wing than all other main conservative parties after their articles like 
National                        	Centre-right to right-wing	
Québec                          	centre to centre-right    	
Manitoba                        	centre to centre-right    	
New Brunswick                   	centre-right              	
Ontario                         	centre-right              	
Prince Edward Island            	centre-right              	
Alberta                         	centre-right to right-wing	
Newfoundland and Labrador       	centrist                  	
Nova Scotia                     	moderate; centrist        	
Yukon                           	centre-irght              	
British Columbia (Conservatives)	Centre-right to Right-wing	
Braganza (talk) 09:55, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Center or Center-Right 

message: The sources previousy used on this page to descibe the Sask Party as centre-right are, genereally, nearly a decade old or order. I have changed this description, with updated sources and explanation, as follows:
* The party, originally a creation of Liberal and Progressive Conservative party members, was described as centre-right during its time in opposition and early years in government.
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*It has, however, been increasingly described in literature and news media as right-wing since the mid-2010s.
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An unregistered user reverted my changes without explanation, so I put my edits back and bring this issue to the talk page, if it even is an issue.
--Tundraski (talk) 23:12, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this is important—it's increasingly hard to claim that SP is a centrist party, particularly under Scott Moe. Thanks for bringing some sources to bear. Other justin (talk) 16:39, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Right-wing description

message: It looks like beyond the basics this article hasn't received a lot of attention since around 2007, which marks the beginning of an ongoing 16 year run in government for the SP. I'm going to try and put some work into it and would be happy to see other contributions.
The current section on 'origins' mostly looks out of place to me—I'm going to move a lot of that over to Politics of Saskatchewan (hopefully adding some sources, which are largely absent), and try and have this article focus more on its subject. Any other input welcome—please feel free to discuss below. Other justin (talk) 16:53, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  In need of updating