Talk:Vehicle

message: We might need to add the appearance of the vehicles, like any other fictional characters from the show and in the video games? Including fictional vehicles from the games too. Is it possible that we can do that? Professional Gamer (talk) 20:27, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vehicle's appearances (suggestion) 

message: The article fails to cover the topic. Currently it's just a list of different sorts of vehicles. It fails to explain in any moderate detail how they are powered, how they move, what they are used for, who owns them, their history; basically IMO the article is a complete failure.- (User) Wolfkeeper (Talk) 16:45, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article is a complete failure 

message: Perhaps a vehicle loading article may be made, discussing how much a vehicle can carry. In developing countries, vehicles are often overloaded in agricultural environments, causing premature breakdown.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.176.221.172 (talk) 15:38, 3 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Vehicle loading

message: I don't understand what the purpose of this unreferenced section is within the context of this article. As it is, it sort of generally deals with one aspect of one physical property of some vehicles. Is the intention to have similar sections on other properties, such as mass, propulsive efficiency, weight, etc? It very much needs references as well. - Ahunt (talk) 01:40, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It actually seems to me to be a really critical and important thing that almost all vehicles face. Very nearly every vehicle I can think of has features deliberately intended to greatly reduce friction since the very earliest times, and it has impact on range, acceleration, cost, fuel consumption and lots of other things as well.- Wolfkeeper 03:30, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay - that makes sense, but are you planning to expand the section and reference it? What about discussing other properties of vehicles? - Ahunt (talk) 10:54, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: At the moment we've got a start-class article, but I'm adding references as I can find them. Unfortunately I haven't managed to find any really good books on vehicles in general yet, but there's plenty of books on individual types of vehicles.- Wolfkeeper 13:31, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I can see that as a problem - my library here has the same limitations! I just wondered if you were going to add any more sections like this to describe each of the general properties of vehicles? - Ahunt (talk) 22:59, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think so. There's controls, braking systems, more on friction reduction (streamlining, wheels) stability devices, it's all very high level though, and I'd like to ref it as much as possible. I don't want to OR stuff, but it might be possible to use examples from specific types of vehicles, that are easy to reference, as examples of general principles.- Wolfkeeper 23:25, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay - that all makes sense to me. I'll watch as you add that and help out where I can find refs! - Ahunt (talk) 00:03, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Friction section

message: You might be interested in discussion Vehicle safety template at Talk:Motorcycle.  --Dbratland (talk) 02:05, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion of vehicle safety template

message: Can we remove the "types of vehicles" section to the article "outline of vehicles"? There is already a list there an it covers all the major types of vehicles to the best of my knowledge Duga3 (talk) 00:57, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That would make sense to do, but the list from this article really needs to be merged into that list, rather than just removed from this article. - Ahunt (talk) 14:02, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Vehicles 

message: "... the land speed record for human powered vehicles is 133 km (83 mi) (as of 2009)" 
There is some error here. Either the units are wrong or it is a distance record (which is unlikely as I personally know people who have traveled further under their own power) 12.230.177.190 (talk) 18:13, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point, thanks for noting that, ref found and fixed. - Ahunt (talk) 18:24, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Energy Source  

message: The following sentence is jarring, logically: "Energy can be extracted from the surrounding environment, as in the case of a sailboat, a solar-powered car, or an electric streetcar that uses overhead lines." A sailboat gets wind energy from the surrounding environment. A solar-powered car gets solar energy from sunlight, which is part of the surrounding environment. But overhead electric lines aren't part of "the surrounding environment" in any ordinary usage of the words. They are part of a manmade system that is deliberately designed to provide power to the streetcar. The simplest solution is to eliminate streetcars from this list of examples. Holy (talk) 17:33, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The surrounding environment" 

message: A user is confused about subject–verb matching. See the sentence, "Another common medium for storing energy is batteries, . . ." The subject of the sentence is medium, which is singular. Therefore, the verb (is) must be singular. The predicate nominative (also called "predicate nominal"; see predicate (grammar)), which is batteries (plural), is NOT the subject and thus does not determine the number of the verb. Informally, the predicate (usually a form of the verb to be, as here) "nominates" the predicate nominative, naming it as something equivalent to subject. Sentences in which the subject and predicate nominative are different in number (i.e., one is singular and the other is plural) are grammatically correct, but may seem odd to some readers. If the sentence seems very strange (though correct) to many readers, then it can be recast to avoid the unnatural sound. But the solution is NOT to mismatch the subject and predicate! Holy (talk) 17:49, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Predicate nominative confusion 

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message: *Is a funicular a vehicle? a cable car? an elevator? a crane? a bosun's chair? a drone? a conveyor belt? a roller coaster, a water slide? a diving bell? a skateboard? rollerblades, Ice skates? a snowboard? skis? a hang glider? a parachute?, a wingsuit? a diver propulsion vehicle?, a towboard?, a skandalopetra? a spoon? · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 10:27, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Where does one draw the line?

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message: The lead is "A vehicle (from Latin  vehiculum) is a machine that transports people or cargo."
Later we've got "The oldest boats found by archaeological excavation are logboats".
Is there a definition of machine that would include logboats? ghouston (talk) 04:29, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you have a point there, since a machine is generally understood to be a mechanically operated human invention and it is a real stretch to call a log "a machine". Our own article defines it as .  How about we change that to conveyance instead? - Ahunt (talk) 11:21, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm struggling to define it. Presumably we want to include things like unmanned aerial vehicles that are just flying around without carrying anything, but we don't want birds to be in scope. Unless an insect is riding on the back of the bird and thinks it's a vehicle(?) ghouston (talk) 12:30, 24 June 2023 (UTC)

text:  I guess if somebody is riding a horse, it's a conveyance, but not a vehicle, since we restrict it to manufactured objects, or equipment. ghouston (talk) 12:32, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a bit of an etymological conundrum. - Ahunt (talk) 12:34, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  It came from this story on Hacker News, where you can ponder about whether a kite or a space station or roller skates or shoes are a vehicle. ghouston (talk) 12:36, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps a Venn diagram would help? - Ahunt (talk) 12:45, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think perhaps the basic definition would be something like "a piece of equipment used to convey people or objects". Over time, the original meaning would get extended to other things that seems similar, e.g., an aircraft is a vehicle, and and UAV is an aircraft, and can potentially convey objects, so any UAV will be considered a vehicle even if it doesn't convey. A skateboard seems to fit the original meaning, but probably not roller skates or shoes that are attached to the body. ghouston (talk) 23:52, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah that old line between skateboard and roller skates is a fine line, indeed. Just to play devil's advocate, if items you wear are not vehicles then that would exclude jet packs. - Ahunt (talk) 23:58, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  True, but I doubt we really need to resolve such issues for the purposes of this article. Something like replacing "machine" with "equipment" is probably about enough. ghouston (talk) 01:35, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, that is probably the best solution, given the constraints of the language. - Ahunt (talk) 11:30, 25 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Machine? 

message: , , , , , , , ,  The relevant definition in the source cited at the end of the first paragraph, to which I added its Internet Archive linkhttps://archive.org/details/macmillancontemp00macm/page/1106/mode/2up?q=halsey, is "device designed or used for transporting persons or goods, as an automobile, sled, or carriage.". Since only cars is included in the first paragraph's list I wonder if it should be replaced with another source. Mcljlm (talk) 14:32, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation