Talk:Tom Williams (Irish republican)

message: I am going to rename this article to Tom Williams (Irish republican) is order to stop confusion with other types of republicans. Would anyone object? Vintagekits 18:10, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It could be confused with and needs to be distingushed for American republican etc, I will leave it another week before making the changes Vintagekits 17:03, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tom Williams

message: I see my edit has been changed back. There is no such ethnic group or nationality as "Northern Irish". If you wish to add the category, I suggest you create one called "Roman Catholics from Northern Ireland", as the current one is incorrect and I will change it again. Brixton Busters 08:31, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest you go to WP:CFD then. Stu ’Bout ye! 08:38, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest you stop adding an incorrect category. I have explained clearly why the category is incorrect. Brixton Busters 08:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no such ethnic group or nationality as "Northern Irish." To suggest otherwise is simply POV. --Domer48 08:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then go to WP:CFD. All NI people articles are classifed this way. As are all other articles, eg English Roman Catholics, Scottish Roman Catholics and not Roman Catholics from England, Roman Catholics from Scotland. And it is not POV, it is describing where they are from. English isn't a nationality either. Stu ’Bout ye! 09:16, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Northern Ireland is not a country, ethnic group or nationality. --Domer48 10:12, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I totally disagree with the use of these sectarian categories in WP, but if they must be used, then it should be Irish Roman Catholics, Northern Ireland as pointed out has no such ethnic group or nationality as "Northern Irish".--padraig3uk 18:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 100% agree. But if left out there would be just something else. --Domer48 18:59, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Incorrect BigDunc. Someone from Donegal may be northern Irish but not Northern Irish (see also ). Padraig, there are only marginally less people who consider themselves Northern Irish in NI than there are who consider themselves simply Irish . This seems to have been a rather consistent trend.  beano 09:49, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is totaly meaningless, there is no such Nationality as northern Irish. They are all Irish, some regard themselves as British or Both.--padraig3uk 13:43, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
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message: He was involved in a 1942 killing regarded then in Northern Ireland as a murder. Hugo999 (talk) 23:35, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
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message: Would it be possible to change the claim that he was a 'Volunteer' as he was not, prior to the rise of the Provisional IRA in the 1970s the IRA did NOT refer to all its members as Volunteer but used ranks similar to other armed forces, Tom Williams was a Lieutenant, and to him Volunteer would have meant a private.  This distinction can be evidenced on hundreds of memorials to IRA members killed during the War of Independence and onwards, including on the memorial in Milltown Cemetery to republicans killed from the 1870s until 1953 where he is referred to as Lieutenant not as Volunteer. 86.28.235.52 (talk) 17:10, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Volunteer