Talk:Iroquois kinship

message: the fourth sentence in the 'kinship'partagraph contradicts the third. in one you say they're called aunt and uncle;in the next mother- and father-in-law. i must be missing something, but it needs clarification.Toyokuni3 (talk) 14:26, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradiction

message: I was trying to see if there was any genetic basis for distinguishing parallel and cross cousins and I noticed that this system seems to guarantee that if you never marry a parallel cousin there is no chance of a child ending up with two copies of the same X-chromosome.  This would offer the society good protection against X-linked recessive inheritance.  None of the other chromosomes gain this protection because they don't make it externally visible which copy you got from each parent. —dgiestc 02:57, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  User:Dgies, That is only true for the mother's side. For the father's side, cross cousins can carry the same X-chromosome, thus, on the father's side, the parallel cousins would be the preferred group to avoid getting two copies of the same X-chromosome. Males act like X filters since theirs only come from their mother, and their sons do not inherit theirs. Their daughter's will inherit their X, but their father's brother's son will not, so their daughter could safely marry their brother's son without worry of duplicate pairs of X-chromosomes. Their sister's children, however, can receive the same X as they have. — al-Shimoni (talk) 16:43, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genetic benefits 

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message: I understand that Haudenosaunee is the correct term for the confederacy known also as Iroquois, but per WP:COMMONNAME this article really needs to be located at Iroquois kinship there is a major literature that uses the term Iroquois kinship, and no corresponding literature under this name. Furthermore the term "iroquois kinship" does not refer specifically to the kinship system of the Haudenosaunee people, but to to all kinship systems that use bifurcate merging. ·maunus · snunɐɯ· 17:00, 7 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for handling the situation.  I saw the original rename in my watchlist, but didn't really want to deal with it for various reasons (such as that I'm not sure when renaming an article over a redirect requires admin powers, and when it doesn't...) AnonMoos (talk) 23:46, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Move to "iroquois kinship"

message: I don't think that "Iroquois kinship" and "bifurcate merging" are absolute synonyms.  "Iroquois" usually refers to terms on the sibling/cousin generation, while (at least in some usages) "bifurcate merging" refers more to the terms on the parental generation.  Usually an Iroquois cousin/sibling terminology goes together with a bifurcate merging parent/aunt/uncle terminology, but a few languages have divergences between terminological sub-systems of different generations, and a bifurcate merging terminology on the parental generation also goes together with Crow and Omaha kinship terminologies... AnonMoos (talk) 00:08, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It is true that they are not absolute synonyms since other systems also have the feature "bifurcate merging", but Iroquois is to my knowledge the only system that is also sometimes referred to as "bifurcate merging" instead of "iroquois".·maunus · snunɐɯ· 06:38, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Iroquois kinship and bifurcate merging