Talk:June Havoc

message: I just read this. There's nothing wrong with what's in it, altho much of echoes the Gypsy Rose Lee article. But June Havoc was a fine actress and beautiful woman in her own right (I remember especially her cascading blond hair), and I don't think the article does her justice. I can't fix it, but I do note it. Bellagio99 (talk) 15:20, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs more June

message: The birth date for Gypsy Rose Lee was changed to 1914 in this article. The birth date listed in the Wikipedia article for Gypsy Rose Lee (January 9, 1914) is almost certainly wrong. Gypsy Rose Lee was the older sister of June Havoc (this seems to be an issue not in dispute). So if June was born in 1913 Gypsy was born before then. Noralee Frankel the author of Stripping Gypsy discusses the birth date of Gypsy and June on pages 3 & 4 of her book and concludes with these two sentences: "To add to the confusion, Rose registered Gypsy for school in 1916 using the name Rose Louise and a birth date of January 9, 1911. Such evidence strongly suggests Gypsy was born in 1911." from: http://books.google.com/books?id=O2xxhFcOXfwC&printsec=frontcover&dq=stripping+gypsy&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wyn0Togc5NGIAuXjmIAN&ved=0CDAQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=stripping%20gypsy&f=false --Davefoc (talk) 19:03, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Gypsy Rose Lee Birth year

message: Info re daughter (April Hyde) from New York Times. Daughter's year of birth questionable; IMDb is not always accurate as some sources cite 1935 as April's year of birth. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 02:20, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The SSDI is a more reliable source for her lifespan. The IMDb profile should still be used as a ref, as it gives details of her acting career, as well as the fact she used the surname Kent for her career, and that her maiden name was Reed, despite the fact that Havoc's first husband Bobby Reed was not her father. Jim Michael (talk) 13:55, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  SSDI gives date of birth of April R. Hyde as April 2, 1935; date of death as December 28, 1998. I searched the SSDI before but I guess I didn't use the right combination of names. I guess the "R." shows that Reed was her maiden name as you posited, but I was right about the year of birth, not IMDb. Thanks for your help. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 14:23, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Daughter April

message: Some sources state Seattle. Jim Michael (talk) 02:16, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Which sources? Are they reliable? I would advise against making further unilateral changes without discussion first. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 02:21, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ref 11, MSNBC, which I believe is considered reliable. Jim Michael (talk) 21:08, 30 March 2010 (UTC)

text: MSNBC, I dunno. I really doubt MSNBC has the ability to discern which of the numerous birth certificates her mother held for her daughters is correct. If Havoc was born in Canada, albeit apparently to American parents, maybe Canadian ancestry records can confirm. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk) 21:44, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe Havoc was born in Canada either in 1912 or 1913. There is a passport application that lists her birth location as Seattle, Washington and her birth date as November 8, 1910. However, this may be the sole piece of evidence for a non-Canadian birth location and given her mother's propensity for lying about her children's ages it seems likely that the birth location listed on it is probably a lie also. Canada is more restrictive about releasing birth records than the US and assuming that Havoc was born in Canada, her birth information won't be publically available for a very long time. Access to Havoc's birth information might serve to clear up any issues concerning her birth date, birth location and birth name. One indication that she wasn't born in Seattle is that her birth certificate wasn't found by either Frankel or Abbott, two authors that wrote biographies of Gypsy Rose Lee. Abbott did find a birth certificate for Gypsy Rose Lee. Given that almost all sources list Havoc's birth location as Canada and that no birth certificate has surfaced to contradict this I think it is very likely she was born in Canada, but without the Canadian birth certificate pinning this down to a certainty probably isn't possible.--Davefoc (talk) 19:22, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Place of birth 

message: I recall seeing Havoc's name in a Guiness Book of World Records, back in mid-60s. Anyone here or @Guiness remember why she was in there?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by BubbleDine (talk • contribs) 13:57, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guinness Book 

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message: Quite likely, as the next sentence is about her next marriage. So what information does "they later divorced" add?2A02:AA1:1010:5FFF:142B:3BBF:FFF3:9590 (talk) 15:41, 17 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "They later divorced" 

message: should read "removed" not "deleted" 2607:F2C0:EA79:FDAC:F0B6:901F:E8DF:92EE (talk) 23:57, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
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