Talk:White hat (computer security)

message: For symmetry with Black hat and Gray hat, and because "white hat" is the usual noun. One says "a white-hat hacker," or "a white hat"; never "a whitehat." See "What links here" and note how many white hat links there are. --Quuxplusone 19:38, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 

message: This article is in need of a criticism section. Specifically adressing the issue that there is no such thing as black or white hat hackers, but that the 'black hat' was invented by hackers who were afraid of getting negative publicity, labelling anyone of their kind who got caught with criminal behavior a 'black hat' so as not to get blamed themselves. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by IP address 82.92.64.247 (talk • contribs) 14:18, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, this place needs a criticism section. There are many views on the phenomenon 'white hat hacker', but the article only represents one. I'll add one later tonight. 82.95.254.30 17:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

text: What kind of white hat uses low orbit ion canon?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.29.151.162 (talk) 22:51, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message: The Black hat article introduction follows the common convention in the IT/programming world of using the term "cracker". I think that in this context, the term "hacker" should be removed from the introduction. Not only does it not follow industry convention, but I find it confusing, as I usually expect the term "hacker" to be synonymous with "programmer" or "coder", and "white hat" does not fit into this context.Jantman 02:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove term hacker 

message: Wouldn't a penetration test be a better example of White Hat work? The current example is something of a grey area (and so, probably Grey Hat). --Tango 21:48, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Examples 

message: I took out the [ list of security experts]. The list seemed to be an indiscriminate list of white-hats, security experts, and people who could be regarded as black-hats. --h2g2bob (talk) 22:06, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of people 

message: I think it would be a good idea to have a section about White Hat confrences.Sephiroth storm (talk) 15:53, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why here, and not in Hacker (computer security), where the majority of the content is?  White Hat is a term that's used for multiple things, and I'm really not sure it should exist as a separate article rather than a disambiguation page, even if the "computer security good guy" is the most dominant current usage. Jclemens (talk) 17:06, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Events? 

message: The lead links the words 'ethical hacker' to Hacker Ethic, however if you try to search for 'Ethical Hacking' you get redirected to 'White hat'
Can someone please clean up these links or merge the articles, they are quite confusing. I would do i myself but i dont know how. Bodsda (talk) 13:56, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethical Hacker in lead 

message: The accompanying article White hat has 4 major sections, each on a different (tho etymologically related) topic. An article needs a single unifying topic, not just a name shared by its topics. This title is lk'd primarily from comp-security articles, so that is probably the primary topic; i am breaking out the others to White hat (film),  White hat (search), and Scottish Rite#33rd degree.--Jerzy•t 05:39, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: * The accompanying article is not abt terminology, but abt the phenom that is called being a white-hat hacker. Many would-be usage articles violate NOTADICT; if you think that is true of White hat (film), nominate it for AfD, but it can't be merged into  the accompanying article.--Jerzy•t 19:53, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Break up 

message: Because someone added the OurMine group and I just reverted that change, I thought I'd provide a bit more detail as to why. The OurMine article on wikipedia doesn't mention their white hat nature (unlike the other example, MalwareMustDie), and the activities described on the page are not exactly white hat as described in this article. I also did some searching; it looks like apart from the group itself, news articles describe them quite differently, e.g., this article. Similarly, this article writes that they claim not work for financial gain, but this is not the definition of white hat laid down in this Wikipedia article. I think this is enough reasons not to have this group as an example, if only because examples should be those groups that actually exemplify the behavior described as white hat here, but I'd be happy to be convinced that I'm wrong. Namnatulco (talk) 07:55, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[OurMine]] 

message: @Nithin: I clearly explained my edit:
And then you reverted it with the following edit summary:
Of course, you have every right to disagree, but... Do you have any source to support your claim? According to the highly respective dictionary the term "white hat" is a  and just means  Just because "white hat" is slang does not change anything. This term can also mean (not "refer to") a piece of clothing, but not in the context of our article. So please, restore my version. I will really appreciate it. 85.193.228.103 (talk) 22:17, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with and support the IP. WP:REFERS applies here. Elizium23 (talk) 22:36, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree that "Refers to" is bad and shouldn't be used, but i disagree that it should be replaced by "means" which isn't much better. Per Wikipedia:ISATERMFOR I think that perhaps the title should be changed, perhaps to "White hat hacker" we could also drop "(computer security)" and then the lead could read "A White hat hackers is an ethical computer hacker, or a computer security expert, wh..." which i think is better in terms of WP:UMD and WP:ISATERMFOR Nithintalk 20:02, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm... Nevermind that doesnt really make sense, i think "A "White hat" is an ..." is better and we should include "white hat hacker" as an alternate title but i dont really understand MOS:LEADALT or WP:OTHERNAMES Nithintalk 20:15, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to take it strait from Black hat (computer security) "A black hat hacker (or black-hat hacker) is a ..." which is exactly what i was thinking Nithintalk 20:17, 31 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: @Nithin: Good job. Thank you. 85.193.228.103 (talk) 00:01, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The lead sentence.