Talk:Bacchanalia

message: This 'sentence' is not a complete sentence: "According to a theory proposed by Erich Gruen, as a display of the Senate's supreme power to the Italian allies as well as competitors within the Roman political system, such as individual victorious generals whose popularity made them a threat to the Senate's collective authority."  Can someone who knows the intent of this string of words please edit it? Tmusgrove (talk) 07:12, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed... I second this. It makes the sentence appear to be nonsense. At least I can't find any sense in it.
Theshowmecanuck (talk) 02:34, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad Grammar 

message: This entry insists that the Senate was wrong for suppressing the Bacchanalia, then says that it was a bunch of slaves trying to overthrow the Senate. Someone has a bizarre and outdated agenda here, and it's resulting in contradictions in the same entry. Funny to watch, but stupid. 72.144.60.229 01:59, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nonsense 

message: "The festivals occurred on three days of the year /---/, on March 16 and March 17." Now I may count March 16 and March 17 as many times as I wish, yet I never get more than two days. Also, the article on Saint Patrick's Day refers on Bacchanalia as being on March 17, so maybe the possible connection should be mentioned in this article, too. --Oop 23:22, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date? 

message: Bacchanalia were very practised in this region (Calabria), the Senatus consultum was made to stop those ancient ‘experiences’ coming from Greece. 193.252.25.110 09:54, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Senatus consultum de Bacchanalibus' was discovered in Calabria and not in Apulia region 

message: Drastic, sourced from scholarly articles and imminent. Haploidavey (talk) 23:18, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright then, quasi-imminent. Not sure what should happen to this article, as a Roman-based Bacchus article is needed. Haploidavey (talk) 00:07, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewriting 

message: Things have changed for the worse since I last looked at this. 
* When did the Greek god Bacchus (or Dionysus) become solely a Roman god? 
* What about the history of the Dionysia before the Romans? 
* Who decided you could equate Bacchanalia with "Roman orgy" and where does it say they're the same thing?
* The article is now written as if the Romans thought it all up for themselves (even the god), instead of modifying what the Greeks did before them. 
This is what Britannica says:Bacchanalia: also called Dionysia, in GrecoRoman religion, any of the several festivals of Bacchus (Dionysus), the wine god. They probably originated as rites of fertility gods. The most famous of the Greek Dionysia were in Attica and included the Little, or Rustic, Dionysia, characterized by simple, oldfashioned rites; the Lenaea, which includeda festal procession and dramatic performances; the Anthesteria, essentially a drinking feast; the City, or Great, Dionysia, accompanied by dramatic performances in the theatre of Dionysus, which was the most famous of all; and the Oschophoria (“Carrying of the Grape Clusters”).
Introduced into Rome from lower Italy, the Bacchanalia were at first held in secret, attended by women only, on three days of the year. Later,admission was extended to men, and celebrations took place as often as five times a month. The reputation of these festivals as orgies led in 186 BC to a decree of the Roman Senate that prohibited the Bacchanalia throughout Italy, except in certain special cases. Nevertheless, Bacchanalia long continued in the south of Italy. Myrvin (talk) 14:59, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened to this article? 

message: I am attempting to include an informative line concerning the use of the term "Bacchanal" in University culture (specifically those that tend to have a traditional and well-established culture usually modeled on the 'Ancient universities' (see below).  I know for a fact that the term is used sufficiently widely (interestingly enough despite the fact that many people don't seem to know what it means) in many university events that it should be noted somewhere in the article for those attempting to better understand the reference.  
As I have suggested below - perhaps this is actually best handled by an article involving University culture or terms... Commissar Mo (talk) 20:58, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference to University Culture usage removed pending reference 

message: According to the Roman historian Livy, the Bacchanalia were originally restricted to adult women, but were subsequently corrupted by a priestess who introduced frenzied rites and sexually violent initiations, involving both sexes, all ages and all social classes, we say in the first paragraph.
This is actually not according to Livy. It's what Livy says a possibly coerced sex slave, essentially, accuses the cult of as prelude to the suppression of 186 BC. It certainly isn't a temperate description that classicists and historians of ancient religion would give of the Bacchanalia. I'm sure Haploidavey knows the context of this comment, as I'm too weary today to flesh it out: we can provide a better introduction. Cynwolfe (talk) 16:21, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course Livy's neither temperate nor objective in what he says about the Bacchanalia. The introduction needs a deal of work, and so does the article. All I can say is... it's early days, and I'm weary too. Writing here's become more compulsion and addiction than pleasure. I doubt that's a good thing.  Haploidavey (talk) 17:52, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  According to Livy?