Talk:Christian views on astrology

message: This article needs work but on the whole it’s relevant and necessary! I was wondering, do you have any information the similarities between ancient astrology, the metaphors associated with Jesus` birth and death and actual movements of the earth in relation to the stars?JusticeBlack (talk) 18:09, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Similarities in Christian Symbolism & Astrology 

message: Header needs a complete rewrite.
I especially object to saying "astrology receives only fringe support from modern society". Something like a third (or two thirds, I forget the exact number) of londoners believe in astrology. PyroGamer 16:16, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
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message: I support the view that this article has NPOV issues. It seems to me that quite a lot of it violates the best Wikipedia standards. Consider for example the "Astrology within the Church" section.
* It contains excessively long quotes in relation to the editorial content. See When not to use quotations.
* It editorializes. Consider the underlined words in this part: "it is obvious that, at the time of writing, although the Roman Catholic opinion of astrology was not enthusiastic, there was a small amount of leeway provided to make legitimate use of astrology. Perhaps the intent was to allow astrology to be studied by scholars, theologians, and members of the clergy. It is clearly not in support of modern astrology for divination, personal horary predictions, or for supporting superstitions. At the same time, it does not seem to be anathema to Catholicism (see heterodoxy). Indeed, the gist of the article seems to be that astrology is merely anathema to modern scientific reasoning and therefore makes its usefulness in Western Christianity a tenuous one". Review the underlined parts against Synthesis and Words to avoid, particularly Adverbs that editorialize.
I think it's quite appropriate to report the views expressed in the Catholic Encylopedia (although this should be balanced with views from other Christian traditions), but the section goes much further.  It needs either heavily editing or removal. Peter coxhead (talk) 10:36, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV, editorializing, synthesising 

message: It tries too hard to make connections between Christianity and astrology.
For instance,the word "magi",in greek "μάγοι",means "sorcerers".1.He who practices magic, casts spells, summons supernatural powers or appears to possess them.
2.He who has exceptional skills on a specific thing,example: The young mechanic quickly turned into a magician of information technology.
Notes by me: Keep in mind that number 2. mentions a modern figure of speech rather than a meaning. I say modern because I've never seen that expression in older texts.
The irony here is that the one who wrote this article used the word "astrologers" which is actually a greek word slightly modified to fit nicely into the english language. My point is,not only the word "magi" doesn't carry such a meaning but if those men were indeed astrologists then we would actually have the word "αστρολόγοι" instead of "μάγοι". If this wasn't enough,keep in mind that we only read that the sorcerers were following the star,the rest are assumptions (studying the stars etc).
Another thing. We see Luke 22:10 also being mentioned in the effort to support this connection but it's simply quoted out of context.
Here's Luke 22:10 till 20:14
10He said to them, "Behold, when you have entered the city, a man carrying a jar of water will meet you; follow him into the house which he enters,
11and tell the householder, 'The Teacher says to you, Where is the guest room, where I am to eat the passover with my disciples?'
12And he will show you a large upper room furnished; there make ready."
13And they went, and found it as he had told them; and they prepared the passover.
14And when the hour came, he sat at table, and the apostles with him.
This makes it clear that Jesus Christ didn't enter any "astrological" house but a real,human-made one to eat along with His disciples.
All kinds of claims can be supported by taking the quotes out of context.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andreas Gram (talk • contribs) 23:23, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is pretty biased. 

message: Much of this article reads like a cut and paste job. Editor2020, Talk 04:31, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cut and Paste?