Talk:Bend (heraldry)

message: The image of the bend is licensed as fair use to illustrate the object in question. It should not be used to illustrate the ordinary.--dave-- 21:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use image

message: Should be mentioned in this article despite its not being a type of bend.  --Daniel C. Boyer 16:51, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure.  98.27.163.42 (talk) 20:19, 25 August 2008 (UTC)

text: What is it? I haven't found much evidence of the term.  Does it belong in Line (heraldry)? —Tamfang (talk) 00:39, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Bend double dancetty

message: A bend or in the dexter base?  98.27.163.42 (talk) 20:20, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems anomalous.  I suspect there's more to the blazon than that; can you tell us more? —Tamfang (talk) 05:43, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Likely the blazon is something like Gules a bend or in dexter base a teapot argent: what's in dexter base is not the bend but the accompanying charge. —Tamfang (talk) 06:24, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does it mean to have... 

message: I'm going to delete all three of the inline external links, for different reasons.  The White Lion Society has apparently reorganized its Armorial, so our link there is broken.  The other two links are to pages containing numerous shields, and I consider it not helpful to tell the reader "it's in there somewhere, you find it." —Tamfang (talk) 05:00, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  external 

message: Next time ask on the Talk page, that's what it's for.
: Does it have to be several items? Can one long item be in bend?
One does sometimes find a spear in bend but bendwise is preferred to avoid ambiguity.
:: In French blazon, if memory serves, multiple items are rangé(e)s en bande and a single item is posé(e) en bande. —Tamfang (talk) 19:19, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In the preview, the citation numbers referring to outside sites are not superscripted, do not appear in the Notes section, and are out of sequence with the superscripted numbers. This actually may be Wikipedia style that I am not familiar with, but I am not able to research it right now. Thanks, Geekdiva
I don't know whether anyone intended it that way, but that's the normal result of mixing footnotes with direct external links. —Tamfang (talk) 05:05, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geekdiva's questions 

message: The bend sinister (commonly but incorrectly called "bar sinister" outside heraldic usage) occasionally functioned as a mark of distinction, modifying the meaning of whatever coat of arms it was added to in a standard recognizable way, in particular indicating bastardy.  The modern ISO No symbol, as in No Smoking and No Parking, is graphically similar; but more importantly performs a similar function, in this case indicating that whatever it added to is prohibited. Though this similarity does not justify calling the No symbol a "bar sinister", barring a reliable citation of such usage, I believe it is consistent with the policy and spirit of Wikipedia to briefly mention the semantic and graphic similarity between heraldic and modern symbols, despite their independent origin.  They may be viewed as an example of convergent evolution in graphical communication, where a similar need---to efficiently convey a particular modification of meaning---gave rise to similar solutions.CharlesHBennett (talk) 14:14, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the "policy and spirit of Wikipedia" forbids novel interpretations and theories by Wikpedia contributors; see . —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 22:03, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  ISO No symbol as a modern mark of distinction 

message: Several sources cited in the article state that a bend sinister (or a diminuitive form) was often or occasionally used as a mark of illegitimacy in aristocratic coats of arms. See e.g. Fox-Davies (1909, p. 512); Woodward (1896, p. 172); Boutell & Fox-Davies (1914, p. 191); and O'Shea (1986, p.12). The recent edit replacing bend with baton does not match the source cited (Bertelli & Litchfield 2003, p.174). Perhaps the user who made the edit is confusing bend sinister with bar sinister. In any event, changes such as these need to be supported by reliable sources, so I have restored the original wording. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 23:57, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bend sinister for illegitimacy 

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message: Image:Party per bend demo.svg|Party per bend, argent and gules
Image:Bend Sinister demo.svg|Argent a bend sinister gules
Image:Bendlet demo.svg|Argent a bendlet gules
Image:Ribband demo.svg|Argent a ribband gules
Image:Baton demo.svg|Argent a baton gules
Image:Ecu bandé argent gueules.svg|Bendy of six, argent and gules
Image:Blason-azur-3-bandes-or.svg|Azure, three bendlets Or
Image:Bend cotised demo.svg|Argent a bend cotised gules
Image:Fortescue arms.svg|Arms of the Fortescue family: Azure, a bend engrailed argent plain cotised or
Image:Blason département fr Bas-Rhin.svg|Arms of the Bas-Rhin département: Gules, a bend argent cotised fleury of the same
I've removed this from the article. The different images don't really add to an understanding of the specific topic; instead they seem to be more or less indiscriminate examples of other kinds of heraldry jargon. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 11:36, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
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