Talk:Evangelion: 2.0 You Can (Not) Advance

message: So an anonymous wants to move this page to Evangelion 2.0, saying "Moving content back to placeholder page as "Division" is based on a now-obsolete translation of a placeholder title."
Unfortunately, he botched things and did a copy-paste move... which means we can't move over the redirect as it now has history. So we need an admin to do the move, if we want to.
Thoughts on the move, for or against? --Gwern (contribs) 18:18 18 May 2008 (GMT)
:"Division" is not the official english title. It is only one of the possible translations, and the fact that the introduction mentions "Breaking up" is a proof of that. Since it remains the choice a contributor made at some point and not an official translation (and since there are multiple ways to translate "Ha") I think we should just retain "Evangelion: 2.0" for the title.Folken de Fanel (talk) 21:39, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Page move

message: I have removed the plot section as the movie has not been released. Any pre-release plot information should be sourced.
zzymyn (talk) 08:57, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot

message: Since this is more likely to be "Adam" and "Lilith" (Biblical characters from the Garden of Eden), are we sure this wasn't a hasty misread of the screen? - Eyeresist (talk) 05:57, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. It definitely says "Adams" and "Lilin+?".68.7.201.42 (talk) 09:32, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't based on after-theater reports, its' already on DVD. --Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici (talk) 03:30, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Adams and Lilin+"

message: Just throwing this out there for discussion, but has anyone else noticed a striking resemblance between the Glasses Girl and Mana Kirishima from the Japan-only PC game, Girlfriend of Steel?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.195.43.22 (talk) 18:05, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Every spinoff game had a Mary Sue type girlfriend character for Shinji. I dread that Mari will be the same. --Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici (talk) 02:19, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Mysterious Girl"

message: So with the release, the reviews start coming in. Let's dump'em in this section:
; Reviews
* http://www.otaku2.com/articleView.php?item=427
* http://www.evageeks.org/2009/06/my-spoilerless-evangelion-2-0-review/
* http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2009/06/27/evangelion-new-theatrical-version-division/
** http://blog.mistakesofyouth.com/2009/06/27/evangelion-2-0-you-can-not-advance-spoilers/
*Mania.com HK BR 
; Box office/reception
* http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2009-06-29/evangelion-2.0-opens-at-no.1-with-510-million-yen
* http://www.screendaily.com/news/box-office/asia-pacific/-evangelion-rules-the-japanese-box-office/5002949.article (Screen International)
--Gwern (contribs) 13:47 27 June 2009 (GMT)
:Well evageeks won't pass as a reliable source so you won't be able to use it in the article. I don't know about otaku2 though. I don't know if you want to use them in the article or not, but I feel it's worth pointing out. Dandy Sephy (talk) 17:13, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The details of the plot are very skewed as appearing currently in the article, having watched the final act personally. Not being fluent in Japanese, I wouldn't feel appropriate making the corrections myself, but this needs to be considered. For instance, Shinji witnesses Rei's consumption visibly, not secondhand through Mari, though they do speak and she does offer him lift on her Eva to observe. Further the lance used by Kaworu is not the Lance of Longinus.
There is a direct source available, but I am quite sure the details of obtaining it are not appropriate for this discussion board or Wikipedia on a whole. It will be widely known shortly I am sure anyhow.
Antitab (talk) 02:11, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Reviews & Reception

message: The information in the link has to be added to the article but I don't have time editing it in. It would be very much appreciated if someone took the time to do it. Thanks.
Funimation Adds Sengoku Basara TV Anime Series (Update 2)
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thread_title: Funimation has no license for 2.0...yet

message: It is not in the base in the United States that the fifth machine fought. It fought in Euro and the joint management base in Russia. It writes in the pamphlet. (221.189.75.3 (talk) 00:21, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We've been having trouble understanding that, because both English and Russian are being heard in "Bethany Base"; does the movie pamphlet give a specific location for the base? What is written in the pamphlet about the base?--Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici (talk) 00:20, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Bethany Base"

message: I thought it was called Rebuild of Evangelion 2.22: You Can (Not) Advance.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.26.194.190 (talk) 23:41, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: The plot section is getting over-long and has long exceeded 700 words limit. It is not very well written. Its causality is not in proper order, placing results before causes, or switching between this and that, even in the middle of a sentence. This creates WTF moments when readers run into something that happens for no reason, only to discover the reason in the next sentence. Some sentences run-on, are confusing, and hard to comprehend. Many contain modifier clauses within modifier clauses, use terms that only fans will understand. The section also captures the battle at the climax almost shot by shot. Things must go. I'll try to rewrite it here. Opinions are appreciated. 
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The resuscitated skeleton of the Third Angel escapes its confinement and tries to break out of NERV's arctic Bethany Base. Mari Illustrious Makinami, a new pilot, launches in Provisional Unit-05 and destroys the Angel by self-destructing Unit-05 and safely ejecting at the last moment.
Meanwhile, Shinji Ikari and his father Gendo visit Yui's grave. Shortly after, the Seventh Angel attacks, but it is dispatched in minutes by the newly arrived Unit-02 and its headstrong pilot, Asuka Langley Shikinami.
In the aftermath, Chief Inspector Ryoji Kaji delivers to Gendo a suitcase containing an object called the "Key of Nebuchadnezzar" and notes that the destruction of Unit-05 went as planned. Gendo and Kozo Fuyutsuki then visit Tabgha Base on the Moon to view the construction of Evangelion Mark.06. Although they are denied landing, they confirm that its construction is different from the other EVAs, and briefly see Kaworu Nagisa sitting in hard vacuum without spacesuit, on Mark 06’s finger.
In Gendo's absence, the Eighth Angel attacks Tokyo-3. Shinji, Asuka, and Rei kill the Eighth Angel in a devised haphazard plan by Misato Katsuragi. Both Unit-00 and Unit-01 are damaged, but SEELE orders only the latter repaired.
In an attempt to heal the relationship between Gendo and Shinji, Rei prepares a dinner party. Mari arrives in Tokyo-3 by parachute, landing on Shinji. Later, Evangelion Unit-04 and NERV's U.S. branch are destroyed during an experiment, prompting the U.S. government to send the completed Unit-03 to Tokyo-3. Due to an agreement that no nation is allowed to possess more than three functioning Evangelions at a time, NERV seals away Unit-02.
NERV tests the newly arrived Unit-03 on the same day as Rei’s dinner party, so Asuka volunteers to take Rei’s place as the test pilot. Once Asuka activates Unit-03, the Ninth Angel possesses the EVA and goes on a rampage. Shinji is ordered to pilot Unit-01 to fight it, but he refuses for fear of harming Asuka, who is still trapped inside. Gendo orders the activation of the dummy system, which makes the EVA autonomous. The autonomous Unit-01 to savagely destroy Unit-02, crushing the cockpit. Distraught over his father's cold decision, Shinji leaves NERV.
Asuka survives, but is grievously injured and placed in quarantine for fear of mental contamination by the Angel. Shinji heads out of the city, but the Tenth Angel attacks, and he has to flee to an emergency shelter. Gendo fails to activate Unit-01 without Shinji, so Mari hijacks Unit-02 and heads out to fight the Angel alone. She removes the Unit-02's restraints and fights the Angel, but before she could significantly harm it, the Angel defeats Unit-02. Rei's joins the fight with the damage Unit-00 and charges at the Angel with a missile. The missile detonates but fails to destroy the Angel.
The Angel consumes Unit-00 and integrates it to its own body. Upon seeing Rei consumed with Unit-00, Shinji rushes to Gendo and asks to pilot Unit-01 again. The Angel uses its new body to bypass NERV’s defense, and Shinji fends it off, but before he can defeat the Angel, Unit-01 runs out of power and shuts down.
Unit-01 reactivates in berserk mode, in response to Shinji’s rage and determination to save Rei. It easily takes down the Angel, and Shinji uses the unit to reach inside the Angel’s core to search for Rei. Unit-01 then starts transcending its physical limit to grant Shinji’s wish. Inside the cockpit, which transcends the law of physics, Shinji sees Rei floating alone under a liquid-like surface. He pulls her out of the liquid into his cockpit. In the same moment, Unit-01 pulls Unit-00's core out of the Angel’s.
The Angel explodes, and its remains, along with Unit-00's core, are absorbed into Unit-01, fusing them all into one being. Unit-01 then sprouts giant wings of light, and Misato, who has been watching the battle, sees that they are identical to the ones she saw during Second Impact fifteen years ago. Ritsuko notes that the EVA has become as a divine being, triggering the Third Impact and the Apocalypse.
In a post-credits scene, the Lance of Longinus shoots down the Earth’s atmosphere and impales Unit-01 in the middle of its apotheosis, neutralizing it and stopping the Third Impact. Kaworu then descends from the Moon in Mark.06, saying that this time, he will make Shinji happy.
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What do you guys think of this new attempt? Anthonydraco (talk) 14:49, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot rewrite 

message: That's the Lance of Cassius, not Longinus. SomeRandomAnon (talk) 03:23, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Lance in post-credit scenes

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