Talk:Adventureland (Iowa)

message: The Chapel (church) was added a few years ago (I'll have to check my photos for the actual date) and is used as a performance area for gospel groups and also some canned (singing to tape) shows using the same cast as Sodas and Sounds.  I guess it would be nice to list "new things" each year and mix them in but I wasn't sure where The Chapel would fit -- it's a stage, I guess (though does seem to be a functional church). --Allen Huffman
::If I ever get back to Iowa, I guess I'll have to visit Adventureland. It's been 11 years since I was there...far too long. Although I have no interest in a canned musical at a gospel church... Good info. --Firsfron 21:19, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Chapel 

message: I understand grouping rides by kid rides, coasters, and others (categories) but we also talk about park sections which makes me want to group rides by park sections, or at least do something like list a section, then a list of names of rides/shows in that section, then have a different section that goes in to more detail about the actual rides (descriptions, etc.).  Is that overkill? --Allen Huffman
:: I'm fine with doing it by park section and losing the other categories.  The coasters already have the template at the bottom which groups them... --Rehcsif 04:14, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. It's a little overkill as it stands now.--Firsfron 14:32, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Organization 

message: I am happy to donate my photos for the roller coaster and park pages. I am unfamiliar with the rules for uploading/cropping photos for use in the Wikipedia. Guidelines on naming would be useful too. --Allen Huffman
::You've got a lot of great pictures, Allen. I'm really glad you can donate some for the project. A few photos would really add a lot of value to these pages. 
::You go to the "upload file" link (on the right) and upload your file. It will ask you for some information. Since you are the creator of the images, it's relatively straightforward (just choose either "free licence" or "public domain"), and the naming, within reason, is pretty flexible (for example, a picture of The Dragon might be "The_Dragon.jpg" or "DragonAtAdventureland.gif").
::Good luck! :) --Firsfron 11:44, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: The text currently says that there are only 2 rides in Outlaw Gulch (the Outlaw and Sawmill Splash).  Isn't there also a couple of small kiddie rides as well?  I seem to remember that the Chuck Wagons are there...  Nice work with the trivia, etc. by the way!  --Rehcsif 16:17, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh drats. I guess that depends on where Outlaw Gulch starts. Indeed, once you pass under the sign leading the way, there is the Puff the Dragons pin wide, and the Chuck Wagon for kids.  To me, the dragon ride always seemed to fit with "Dragon Island" but the Chuck Wagon certainly fits better with Outlaw Gulch. Hrm. If only they outlined the areas on the park map. --Allen Huffman
There are currently the Sawmill Splash, Puff The Magic Dragon, The Outlaw, and The Sidewinder.
-Daffy  —Preceding unsigned comment added by DaffyandFred (talk • contribs) 21:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Outlaw Gulch

message: I started an Outlaw coaster page, but it's mostly just a shell right now. Any coaster fans out there with time to look up stats? --Allen Huffman 15:14, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I may have time to look at it later this week.  Otherwise, check out rcdb.com -- they have stats for most coasters.  Also, check out Wikipedia:WikiProject_Roller_Coasters for guidelines on how to set up these articles (I created the Tornado (coaster) article based on these--Rehcsif 15:50, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While we're at it, The Dragon page could use some expansion. I started it based on Fisher's Tornado article, but it still needs more stuff. I couldn't think of much more to say than 'yeah, it goes upside-down'.--Firsfron 16:57, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roller Coaster Pages 

message: I question the wording about the Underground being the major attraction of the area.  The Underground opened many years before Space Shot, with SS being the big new ride. I'd think it became the major attraction of the area.  (That said, I'm not sure where all these land definitions come from.) Comments? --Allen Huffman
:I wondered about that too.  I've only been to the park once since both of these rides existed, but I would say that neither is really a "standout" and that the particular area of the park isn't quite as themed/sectioned as the others, like "County Fair" or "Outlaw Gulch".  Another thing -- isn't part of "The Boulevard" really part of "Bavaria"?  I thought that's why they had "Der Flinger" and formerly "Der Flitzer" there (Der Flitzer sat where the Giant Skywheel is now, which the article currently calls "The Boulevard".  --Rehcsif 18:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Underground vs Space Shot 

message: There have been a lot of updates by non-registered IP's recently -- I'm assuming all by the same person.  Thanks for your contributions -- and I'd just like to encourage you to sign up and make edits as a registered user.  It makes it easier to communicate with you, and it's nice to have a little bit of a 'face' on the contributors to this article.  This article has really taken off in the last few months and we appreciate your efforts to help.  --Rehcsif 18:40, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Anonymous Updates

message: Boy, someone sure doesn't like the circus ;-)  Is it time to purge some of the now-obsolete discussions on this page? --199.3.104.138 15:10, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandals and Old Discussions 

message: I got alot of Adventureland tidbits from one of the park operators (one of the Krantz family). I'll be posting updates to the page based on what I've gotten from someone who grew up with the park. --Allen Huffman 03:33, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Where is this video posted? --Cedarvale1965-08 (talk) 04:49, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tons o' updates coming. 

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message: New expansion for 2008 is the Kokomo Kove water play area. They have mentioned it on local newscasts, and now it's on the annual pass cards they mail out and featured in the TV ads. --Allen Huffman (talk) 01:56, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2008 

message: It looks like we need references. We could certainly list their official website, but much of what I contributed came from e-mail correspondence with the park itself. Not sure how we list that. --Allen Huffman (talk) 21:32, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's touchy, since we don't want to lose information due to "no original research".  I think for an article like this, simply listing the website and any other sites (e.g. news articles, etc) would be a start.  Also some reflinks for the history section, etc. would be helpful.  Finally, if you have a specific name or two from your correspondence, and wanted to include it as a reference (e.g. "Joe Blow, Director of Marketing, Adventurland") I think that would be worth a try.  --Rehcsif (talk) 01:33, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! Would you add a sample reference for the website (for the hours, etc. I guess?) so I can see how it works?  Then I can add some of mine. I don't know how cite and all that work yet.  (The trivia section needs to be integrated, too, apparently. The items I added came from one of the family members who own the park.)  I'd like to see us be able to have a better timeline for the park, too. --Allen Huffman (talk) 14:40, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a couple (under History and Location).  I can come back and add some more when I have more time.  Basically just insert a hyperlink inside 'ref' tags and it automagically appears as a footnote.  --Rehcsif (talk) 15:03, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: During a 2006 (August) visit, I noticed that much of the work force at Adventureland was usually above the ages of 65. They were not really any young workers you may find at most amusement parks. Does anyone know if during August, there are senior citizens owrking there? POSTED 6-13-08. (Cedarvale1965-08 (talk) 16:43, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Employees 

message: After just learning about senior citizens working there, has anyone been on the ride Der Flinger, or (I think) Lady Luck? When I was on those rides (in Aug. 2006), the rides are operated manually (instead of computer, like in most parks I know about), under the operator's decision. With the old folks working there, have they ever looked like they had fallen asleep, and your on the ride for about 10-15 minutes? --Cedarvale1965-08 (talk) 04:58, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Employee Behavior 

message: I came here to see if there was an accidents section of the article and there wasn't.  I know there have been a handful of accidents over the years at the park.  There is a also a lot of accident stories that you hear around Iowa that may or may not be true.  I am only interested in adding stories that have accompanying new reports online for reference.  Thoughts on this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by NastyMix (talk • contribs) 18:50, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Park Accidents 

message: Adventureland Park launched a new website with much more information than the old site. Amusingly, their web design company seems to have used this Wikipedia entry for reference, specifically when it came to the "Mascots and characters" section. I added a ref link to the new About Us page. Allen Huffman (talk) 00:58, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New website! 

message: Looks like some vandalism has gone unnoticed in the games area. I hacked out some of it, and if I have more time I will check the history and try to fix it better. There's still some silliness there, though, if anyone is ambitious... I also added some updates for 2009 (Boy's Rock show, Hy Striker, train station changes). --Allen Huffman (talk) 02:45, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 2009 Vandalism

message: I have added links to photos showing the cleared out area on main street, and also the banner explaining plans underway to rebuild. I am also trying to track down some of the "citation needed" things. We got dinged on this page for referencing the Tornado as "top ten" but it also says that on the William Cobb wiki entry (designer of the ride) without a citation, so I just linked to that page. We shall see. Many changes at the park for 2010. Allen Huffman (talk) 14:14, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure I added that "top 10" comment a number of years ago, and I'm pretty sure it came right off of Adventureland's own website (at least at the time).  --Rehcsif (talk) 19:54, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There, I found the correct cite, and added it to this article as well as the William Cobb one (which was my original article as well ;) ).  --Rehcsif (talk) 19:59, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  2010 Updates 

message: Would someone comment on the area where kids could drive gas-powered model-A cars around a track?  The track had  a metal track that would keep the car on the road so that young kids could drive it.  I remember this ride from visits between 1977-1985 or so, and it was right near the front of the park.  Thanks to all for this page, nice work!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.181.207.107 (talk) 00:28, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: According to someone on the "Adventureland Iowa Fans" Facebook page I started, the track was located where the Festival Grounds are today (just to the right of the restrooms at the end of Main Stree). Before my time in Iowa, so I have no photos. Allen Huffman (talk) 19:01, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Would someone comment on the old car ride that has been removed? 

message: This has been a big year for the park, so far. I see much work on this page too with dates for the attractions, etc. Good job. There is more knowledge out here today than every before. Hard to believe ten years ago we didn't even have a Wiki entry for the park!  I have information to add, but it comes from park management or people involved doing the work, so I don't know how to cite a reference to that. :( Allen Huffman (talk) 19:00, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, after doing more research via posters on my Facebook group, it seems folks in the park as recently as the 90s used the term "Frontierland" for that section. That's a Disney park land, so I'm not sure it would be official (though there is also Main Street, like Disney has), but that seems to fit with Last Frontier. I just wish I could find something official to link to. Likewise, the Alpine Village thing may win. I cannot find my source for Bavaria, but I think it was an e-mail from one of the park owners about ten years ago. I think he may have just called it "the Bavaria section" or something and that's where I got the name from. I moved up here long after Alpine Village disappeared from the map, so I'd never even heard that name until seeing the old maps recently. Alpine just means "high mountains" (and I was thinking "Swiss Alps"). I will confirm with the park and update the entry. Allen Huffman (talk) 20:45, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  2016 Updates 

message: To me, the section as a whole could use a whole lot of cleanup. I'm pretty sure the formatting used for "Details", "Aftermath", etc. is not something that is used on other articles. Also, the section seems very biased against adventureland (language like "...prescribed by the operator manual and the very brief (often inadequate) hands-on training provided by supervisory staff" doesn't seem neutral to me) which contradicts WP:NPOV.
As for references, the "w2bergen.com" blog seems very unreliable as the whole blog is rife with typos and are more editorial pieces than informational pieces (it is a blog after all).
I'd be interested to see everyone's opinion and what changes everyone thinks could make the section better.--bojo1498 talk 16:47, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I just noticed this section today. Surely there is a similar section in other parks that can be used as formatting reference. There were a few TV news snippets and a few mentions in the local newspaper and that was about all I saw, so if we need more references we can dig that up. Allen Huffman (talk) 16:32, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  New section on Raging River Incident 

message: Starting in 2016, I began collecting tons of Adventureland information for a dedicated website project. Http://Adventureland.parkhopping.com/wiki is where I have it. In most cases, when I get better information I try to go back to Wikipedia and make updates. Hopefully this could be used for reference for anyone wanting to hack on this Wiki page. We have had a bunch of historical photos, newspaper article scans, etc. posted on a Facebook group which have shown a bunch of stuff on this Wiki were incorrect. Slowly but surely, we'll get it fixed up. Allen Huffman (talk) 16:36, 5 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another source for information 

message: I've seen YouTubers question this 100 number, and looking in to it, the park itself lists 50 rides (which includes water slides in the water park). The FAQ on the Adventureland website (as of today) just says "rides and attractions" without mentioning shows as part of that number. Unless someone can come up with "over 100", maybe that needs to be removed since it doesn't seem accurate?
This page was created in May 2006. Using archive.org to check the Adventureland page in June 2006, it said "Adventureland Amusement Park contains over 100 rides, shows, and attractions including some of the country's most exciting roller coasters and thrill rides that can challenge the most avid amusement park enthusiasts." so that was the claim in 2006. Kokomo Kove wasn't added until 2008, so that number was counting things they had before the water park expansion.
Allen Huffman (talk) 22:21, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Over 100" - does Wikipedia allow marketing?