Talk:Georg Elser

message: I have a lesser opinion of Elser, than Str1977. I have explained why, but wish to expound on this a little more. I will await your imput, when you can return. Dr. Dan 04:27, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Str1977, Giovanni,? Nothing? Dr. Dan 02:59, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Morality of Elser

message: Did Niemoeller ever explicitly say that he suspected Elser was a member of the S.S.? It seems highly unlikely considering his political inclination and I can find no hard evidence for that assertion (as is stated in the article). Shirer, in Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (pp. 865-867), characterizes Elser as being bribed by the S.S. while already incarcerated at Dachau. According to Shirer, Elser was allegedly approached by S.S. officials who promised to escort him across the border to Switzerland in exchange for building and planting the bomb in the Buergerbräukeller. After the blast he was speeded away to the frontier and left conveniently for other Gestapo agents to "discover" him as the culprit and coerced to implicate the British agents, Best and Stevens. While I wouldn't put such scurrilousness below Himmler's S.S. (e.g., the Gleiwitz incident), Schellenberg and Gisevius both believed it was a genuine attempt on Hitler's life and subsequent research by Anton Hoch bears this out. I would, however, be surprised if Niemoeller himself believed he was a member of the S.S. Does anyone have citations to back this up? If not, I'll remove the assertion from the article. Inoculatedcities 23:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would rather have Shire's version besides the current one, as this article paints Elser as a martyr of sorts.  Or Hitler was really a very lucky man or the murder attempt envolved foul play.  And this means Elser was in together with another interested party. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.19.137.133 (talk) 13:40, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Niemoeller and Elser

message: in the first sentence it says the assasination attempt failed because of faulty wiring but later on it says the bomb went off properly but Hitler had left earlier than expected. 98.196.78.26 (talk) 03:17, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I do not understand 

message: Understandably, German people celebrate this person as one of the few who actually had the guts to go and do something against the monster. But what is thought of him in Germany actually belongs not to his biography, but to one of the numerous articles dealing with Germany's past, or articles on how Germans deal with it. Therefore I removed the the text after "I wanted to prevent even greater bloodshed through my deed", because it mostly deals with how Germans deal with their shame, and not what Elser actually did.
LMB (talk) 10:48, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A person's legacy is relevant to his biography. --89.27.36.41 (talk) 23:10, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What Germans think about him now is not a part of his article 

message: Why is there an image of the Dornier flying boat? I don't see where it is referenced in the article or what it has to do with the subject. Was the ferry mentioned in the article the flying boat?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by LienEmpire (talk • contribs) 02:58, 3 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flying Boat 

message: Would their names be relevant? The entry mentions their funeral and the "hyperbole" of Hess regarding their deaths, why not include their names? 66.162.249.170 (talk) 01:53, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does anyone have the names of the people killed by Elser's bomb? 

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message: Using sources such as Gestapo interrogation reports without any secondary sources is very poor practice. They're scarcely likely to be reliable in their own right and we should never use a primary source in this way. - Sitush (talk) 21:08, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Primary sources 

message: I'd like a map with the location of the places mentioned: Heidenheim, Friedrichshafen, Konstanz, Bottighofen, Meersburg, Schnaitheim, Nuremberg.
The article details his movements but without a map, it is hard to picture their relevance.
--Error (talk) 23:28, 26 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: Preserving here by providing this link; my rationale was: "Undue weight to Gusevius, Nebe's friend and apologist; pls see Arthur Nebe#Apologetics". --K.e.coffman (talk) 19:27, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gisevius 

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