Talk:Weehawken, New Jersey

message: The revision history traces back to "22 October 2002" as the start of the article about "Weehawken Township, New Jersey" (later renamed as article "Weehawken").  It began, as typical, with just Geography & Demographics (no History).  Since then, there have been over 295 edits to the article.  No talk page existed, until today (18-Aug-2007), but perhaps, renaming from "Weehawken Township" lost any discussions under that article name. -Wikid77 05:17, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Created

message: 18-Aug-2007: I have completed multiple tedious edits for general cleanup of the "Weehawken" article with about 140 changes, adjusting grammar, spelling, wiki-links, and adding about 50 commas/hyphens, after the previous 290 edits.  No re-phrasing of sentences was done.  I think the article cleanup is finished, so no need to tag "" now. (Did I mention "tedious" cleanup?)  The effort indicates how few people (the "skeleton crews") actually clean-up WP articles:  when 140 copy-edit changes are needed for a famous suburb of New York.  -Wikid77 05:31, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tedious cleanup 2007

message: Should this section be scraped completely? It could become TV, or part of Film and TV, but is it worthwhile to keep all this "cute" mentions of Weehawken in this medium? Interesting, curious, and fun for those of us who love the little hamlet, but for an encyclopedia????? Other towns have such sections, but at some point they become unwieldly, don't they?Djflem 16:10, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: There's a lot of historic things that aren't note such as the El Dorado Casino, and the Worlds largest elevator designed by Eifel. (the railroad cut for which remains).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kharaku (talk • contribs) 05:28, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  El Dorado 

message: *1670 April 18.   Confirmation to Maryn ADRIAENSEN of Bergen for a
parcel of land called Wiehacken in the jurisdiction of Bergen on Hobooken Creek,
50 morgen Dutch measure, first granted to Maryn ANDIAENSEN dec'd May 11, 1647.      93
*1658 January 10.   Indian Deed (copy of translation from the Dutch).
THERINQUES, WAPPAPPEN, SAGHKOW, KAGKENNIP, BOMOKAN, MEMEWOCKAN, SAMES,
WEWENATOKWEE, to the Director General
and Council of New Netherland for land on the Westside of the North
River from the great Clip above Wiehacken to above the Island Sikakes,
thence to the Kill van Col, so along to Constable's Hoeck, thence again
to the Clip above Wiceacken (Bergen).
*1668 May 12.   Do.   Same to Nicolas VERLETT for upland and
meadow, 138 Dutch morgen or 276 English acres, at Hoboocken betw.
Hudson R., the creek of Hahassemes, the bay, the Wiehaeckese Creek
and the highlands or woods on the N. W., maintaining there a free
passage.                                                               
*1669 June 10.   Patent.   Govr CARTERETT to Capt. John BERRY for land
toward the head of Pesawack Neck, now called New Barbados, from Sand-
fords Spring six miles up into the country between the two rivers.                 46
*1669 June 10.   Do.  Same to same for land betw. Hudson R. and Overpeck's 
Creek, from the Northern bounds of Nic. VERLETT and Samuel EDSALL, 1500 acres.     47
Is it possbilble that Verlett, (often associated w/ Hoboken) also owned lands that included The Heights and Uptown Weehawken, and perhaps farther north? The 05/12/68 deed does not define a northern boundary, while 06/10/69 patent mentions the northern bounds between the Hudson and Overpeck CreekDjflem (talk) 19:58, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: First Land Conveyances

message: Does anybody have any pictures of the Weehawken Public Library?  It is an interesting building, both in its architecture, and that it is perched high on some rocks.  Josh-Levin@ieee.org (talk) 17:15, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I took several on June 10th. I just uploaded them here. Hope they help! Nightscream (talk) 00:00, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Josh-Levin@ieee.org (talk) 09:15, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Weehawken Public Library

message: Have removed entire section as unreferenced, misc, trivia list. Interesting stuff, but seems to have been edited for no apparent reason, the info kept rather arbitrary.Djflem (talk) 19:15, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The material is not unreferenced. The source for the content, such as plot content, of any creative work, such as books, movies, TV episodes, etc, is the work itself; they are self-sourced. This is explicitly stated with respect to movies here, and the principle applies to other works. Since the titles of the works are mentioned above, it is sourced. The only items that were not sourced were the specific Futurama episode, and the date of the Pogo strip. I supplied the name of the episode, and removed the Pogo passage. Nightscream (talk) 12:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Film, television, music, and literature

message: *In his 1918 Pulitzer Prize-winning Cornhuskers, Carl Sandburg mentions Weehawken and its railyards.
*John Erskine reflects on his childhood in the town in The Memory of Certain Persons.
*Weehawken is mentioned in many Dr. Seuss stories, including The Lorax.
*Wee Willie Weehawken is a character in Boys' Ranch, created by Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, and published by Harper Comics in the 1950s.
::The material is not unreferenced. The source for the content, such as plot content, of any creative work, such as books, movies, TV episodes, etc, is the work itself; they are self-sourced. This is explicitly stated with respect to movies here, and the principle applies to other works. Since the titles of the works are mentioned above, it is sourced. The only items that were not sourced were the specific Futurama episode, and the date of the Pogo strip. I supplied the name of the episode, and removed the Pogo passage. Nightscream (talk) 12:23, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Print

message: I'm moving the following material here from the Geography section until it can be sourced:
Though small, Weehawken has very urban population density that is among the highest in the United States and comparable with that of nearby Jersey City. Weehawken is a residential community of primarily one- and two-family homes (many built during the Edwardian era) and low-rise apartment buildings.
Geographically, Weehawken has distinct neighborhoods: Downtown (or The Shades), The Heights, Uptown (which includes Kingswood Bluff), and The Waterfront, which since 1990s has been developed for transportaion, commercial, recreational and residential uses. Though some are long abandoned (e.g., Grauert Causeway), there are still several outdoor public staircases (e.g., Shippen Steps) throughout the town, and a number of dead-end streets.
Local zoning laws prohibit the construction of high-rise buildings that would obstruct sight-lines from higher points in town.
Nightscream (talk) 02:59, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Unsourced material in need of sourcing

message: These have been moved here from a subpage as part of a cleanup process. See Wikipedia:Discontinuation of comments subpages.
I have assessed this article as C-class and identified the following areas for improvement:
* The article needs inline citations
shirulashem (talk) 16:30, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comments

message: 01:05, 18 June 2010 Nightscream (talk | contribs) (45,562 bytes) (The article already makes clear that the city is in NJ, who the state's governor is has nothing to do with Weehawken, and the possessive is "its", not "it's".) (undo) 
Can you please clarify what you are saying in the above statement?Djflem (talk) 13:38, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not necessary to mention that the city is in New Jersey at that point in the article, since that is mentioned numerous times prior to that, as in the Lead; Who the governor of New Jersey is has nothing to do with an article on Weehawken; In any event, the proper phrase to refer to the state's governor would be "its governor", not "it's governor". Nightscream (talk) 05:04, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Governor

message: I see that Daniel Webster is listed as having been a notable resident, but the citations provided only prove that he owned property in town. Even these proofs are lacking in that they are not primary sources. I am adding a note to that effect until actually proof can be found that he lived in town. (Property ownership isn't the same. I might as well cite the Duke of York as having lived in Weehawken.) Johndgrossi (talk) 14:48, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This is certainly a valid point of discussion, but please do not add notes to articles, as they are inappropriate. Personally, I think that sources for owning residential property qualifies for inclusion on this list, but it might be a good idea to hear from others on this point. Nightscream (talk) 05:32, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daniel Webster? 

message: There are several references to Demontreux, 2004, but the original reference doesn't seem to be listed any longer.  Please fix. BillMcGonigle (talk) 14:48, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Broken Reference

message: I created Eldorado Amusement Park and unable to establish inclusion into the Amusement Park article.  Also, I would like a more experienced editor of this article to consider changing or modifying the mention of The Eldorado as The Eldorado Amusement Park so as to provide linkage to the Park's article and more resources. Also, on a side note, why was the park so short lived?--Wikipietime (talk) 22:23, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Eldorado or The Eldorado Amusement Park as the earliest or one of the earliest in the country. 

message: Per this RfC, content in IPC sections should include sourcing that indicates not only that the reference exists, but that it is significant to the topic of the article. Of the items included in this revert, one is entirely unsourced and the other two are cited only to Amazon, which does not accomplish that requirement. Unless appropriate sourcing can be added, these items should not be included. Nikkimaria (talk) 13:11, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  In popular culture 

message: As a reoccurring event, a mention might be appropriate in the article or even a new section!
 http://hudsonreporter.com/view/full_story/27473123/article-Fly-em--high---Weehawken-holds-annual-kite-festival-on-waterfront-?instance=latest_story
--Wikipietime (talk) 13:44, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Annual Kite Event