Talk:Flag Institute

message: Why should only the single criterion for county flags (listed third out of eight in the source) be deemed worthy of note in the article? I'm not sure that the size of the article warrants inclusion of all eight. So, if all eight are not listed, I think it's fair not to give any undue weight by including only one? What do other editors think? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:52, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Because it excludes the Met counties, that is the only purpose of that statement and is such is controversial. If the Institute was neutral it would include flags for all local government areas not just the ones that it approves of.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 19:58, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, but why exactly is a link to the Westmorland Association of particular relevance to this article? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:40, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It is evidence, if you read the page, that they are quiet happy to take nominations from any ragtag bunch for counties pre 1972. Demonstrating once again there agenda.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 21:23, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You are presenting evidence for a particular point of view. But that's contary to WP:POV. It's you that seems to have an agenda here? Why should pre-1972 counties represent a "ragbag"? Martinevans123 (talk) 22:11, 22 February 2012 (UTC)

text: See above.  The Flag Institute state that "In the case of county flags, the flag must normally apply to a historical county rather than a modern administrative area." You seem to be interpreting metropolitan counties as "modern administrative areas" rather than "historical counties".  Why?  The met counties as administrative areas were abolished in 1986, so are just as much "historical" as many other counties.  Without providing any evidence that the Flag Institute has a policy of excluding met counties, the words you are adding are clearly synthesis.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:20, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: To reiterate what I posted on my talk page: The inclusion criteria do not exclude "the Met counties" or any other type of geographical area — witness the registered flags of East Anglia and Wessex for example. There is currently no Merseyside flag, but if you want to campaign for one then you are quite free to do so. Due to the lack of a history of common identity there is little chance of one being accepted given that there are already historic flags for Lancashire and Cheshire. Owain (talk) 18:03, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the arguments presented here seem to be perfectly reasonable. But I am still intrigued as to why specific note needs to be made of the rules regard flags for counties. Does this indicate that the work of the Institute is primarily concerned with county flags? Is this the aspect of their work most significant to the public? Or is there some other reason? Perhaps it might be easier, and more informative, to list all the criteria?  Martinevans123 (talk) 19:34, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That reference was added here by User:Kitchen Knife (now blocked, again) - presumably because he felt it supported his claim that the Institute was in some way biased against the met counties.  I agree it should not be given any more weight in the article than any other of the Institute's criteria - and I suppose that in the interests of "building the encyclopedia", it makes sense to list them all.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 19:45, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criteria for Inclusion in the  UK Flag Registry 

message: I've added the COI template to the article because the Institute executive, Charles Ashburner, is heavily involved in editing this page. In addition, suspected sockpuppet Wooster49 has also been making major edits. This article shouldn't be a blatant advert for the Institute, it should instead concentrate on summarising the notable facts that have been independently reported. Sionk (talk) 14:01, 4 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The second account was blocked as a sockpuppet. There are also copyright issues with a number of the editor's uploads, here and on Commons. Still, this article reads like a puff-piece for the organisation. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 19:22, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: COI