Talk:Breaking Benjamin/Archive 1

message: I added a link to a picture of Breaking Benjamin's logo that someone else posted below. Someone should really fix the trivia section it's gotten bigger each time I look at this article. It wouldn't be too hard to incorporate it into the band's history. devin75.40.234.151 03:02, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: changes

message: I added a few details including the recommendations, and the the little paragraph starting with Ben. ;) adityam
:Recommended songs sounds a little POV to me. This encyclopedia is supposed to be POV-free. Riffsyphon1024 18:59, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, for someone who wants to hear a few songs by them, should atleast be given a head start. the songs i've named have all been to the charts. just saves people time and clicks to going to the charts and checking them for themselves. --aditya mukherjee 15:00, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur with Riffsyphon1024. Recommendations do not belong in an encyclopedia. Charts are historical data, so they are appropriate for encyclopedic listing. However, recommendations aren't NPOV and therefore do not belong here. Cparker 18:11, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Recommendations

message: Did Breath Actually Get #1 on the BillBoard pop 100?  I didn't see any supporting data to this on the BillBoard, so I removed the info that said it was rank 1 for Pop 100. I did, however find the proof of it's ranking #1 on the mainstream rock chart. Cjgone2 04:30, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Breath #1 on pop 100??

message: Someone totally messed up this page. U can't even see the album art.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jordanfre (talk • contribs) 03:09, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been trying to clean it up and put it back to it's original form. additionally to everyone DON'T CHANGE THE WEEKS IT'S BEEN AT #1, it's been 11 weeks so far Imasleepviking 20:05, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Screwed Up Page

message: Breaking Benjamin got their start (with me, anyway) from the Run Like Hell soundtrack. The game features two real-time action scenes (versus CGI) with the songs Polyamorous and Home playing in the background. Why isn't Run Like Hell mentioned anywhere on this page? Cparker 18:02, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Run Like Hell hardly did anything at all for their career. The music video was made before the game was released, then they changed the video to include scenes from the game in the video. The video game did absolutely nothing for their career, if you ask my opinion. The song was already popular before it, and the game didn't exactly sell all that well, so it's not like it had an impact on sales.
Enfestid 20:30, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a little POV the way you both state it but it remains notable that both songs were included in the game given that Breaking Benjamin would go on to release/contribute a track that was incorporated into the much more mainstream video game success Halo 2. Only fair to at least mention it somewhere even if it is a two line blurb. 63.233.15.205
BB became popular when DJs at 97.9 X started playing their stuff. Blow Me Away came after the popularity. 74.33.161.233 02:07, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Run Like Hell 

message: On this article, the band is referred to as a "modern rock/post-grunge" band, yet both of their albums say Alternative metal. Which is it? Cparker 14:46, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre? 

message: does anyone here think that some of their songs sound a little nu-metal?  like in believe, burnley starts using his metal voice for a longer period of time than normal, and it starts to have a little bit of nu-metal sound.  Itachi1452
ummmm....what do ya mean by nu-metal? sorry X] - inuxshinedown
I think they are a bit nu-metal as well. It's hard to define, but some of their songs give a nu-metal sound. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nu-metal 72.251.0.130 18:34, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A bit nu-metal? 

message: Does anyone else have a general issue with the overall tone of this article?  I honestly don't feel that this is in keeping with the encyclopaedic nature of this site.  The third paragraph in the "Band History" section are particularly fawning.Nnyheyd 03:03, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV??? 

message: The line about the new album leaking continues to be removed as the band does not want that information in this article. Don't add it again. User:67.140.125.160
Last I checked this was an un-biased site offering information...and that statement seems pretty biased.  Is this just another advertisement opportunity for the band? User:24.206.240.22
:I added signature to the two above entries to avoid confusion. As the response by 24.206.420.22 said, however, Wikipedia is an unbiased site. Now, the entry says nothing of how to obtain the leaked album, other than it has leaked. It used to say where to obtain the leak, and I removed that and inserted a notice saying it's illegal to download the album. I understand the band may not want the information in the article, but it's hardly unworthy of being put in the article. The fact that the band doesn't want it to be here is irrelevant. That would be like having an article on O.J. Simpson without his trial simply because he doesn't want it in the article (to use a bad analogy).
:It's fact, it happened, and it pertains to the band. There's no reason to remove it until the album is released, as it will be outdated information that's no longer relevant or informative.
:Enfestid 19:12, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Phobia leak

message: It's not in the table, but wouldn't "Follow" constitute as the final single off We Are Not Alone? Maybe my definition of a single is wrong, but I'm pretty sure that was the final one to be released for radio play. Is a single defined by the release of an individual CD of the song and not by its radio release? Cale 06:13, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Follow" -  A Single? 

message: On the radio, the drummer from Godsmack said BB is out of the tour because the lead singer kept getting anxiety attacks and even had to call an ambulance at one show. I think they got replaced by a band called Soil but I wasn't really paying attention. 72.45.1.19 14:01, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anxiety 

message: It was redirecting to metal not Alternative metal, changed on Jan 02, 2006. Josewiki 03:10, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative metal 

message: Ok, first why is the page locked? Second, Breath has only been #1 for 4 weeks, not 13.  The actual vandalism here is putting incorrect information and then locking the page.  Someone either unlock the page or fix the current information. Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.180.230.247 (talk • contribs) 
:Responding above to keep discussion centralized. — TKD::Talk 22:58, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: WHAT????

message: The more I look at the filmography section, the more it's getting out of hand. It's really unencyclopedic in style and adds nothing to the article at all. I'll allow an exception in prominant cases such as in a couple of movies, but outside of that it really needs to go. Imasleepviking ( talk ) 23:48, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filmography 

message: Alternative metal is too heavy to be post-grunge and in order to be post-grunge you actually have to be an alternative rock band. You can't have it on its own. Either alternative rock needs to be added, or post-grunge should be deleted. James25402 18:40, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How exactly can you have post-grunge and not alternative rock? 

message: "Opposed to returning to the towns where he "postponed" shows, no dates in any of the states of canceled shows have been posted. They love their fans enough to avoid the ones they let down."
I fixed that line to make it more NPOV Bliks 23:56, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV line fixed