Talk:Bullfighter

message: Shouldn't it be titled "Bullfighter" you hardly use the word "torero" in the english language since "torero" is the spanish language term. Infact i had a hard time looking for this page and was confused & doubted if it was the same thing as a bullfighter?--Anen87 (talk) 19:01, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

message: (article was kept)
*Keep.  It's an interesting short article worthy of expansion. - Lucky 6.9 18:57, 16 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  from VfD 

message: There seems to be a lot of confusion on terminology, even (surprisingly) among people who say they live in Spain.
A torero is anybody involved in the lidia of the bull: that includes the matador, banderilleros, the picadores, and in some places, even the puntillero (if he is not one of the banderilleros).
A matador (fully known as a matador de toros) is the lead bullfighter, who has taken his "doctorate" which is his rite of passage from the minor-league ranks, where he was a "novillero". Once he has taken that "alternativa" he is a matador de toros forever. He can then "confirm" his graduation by fighting in Madrid, Mexico, or Bogota, though the majority do so in Madrid.
I am unsure why people who say they are either Spanish or live in Spain would be confused by the term "matador" which is the only possible word to describe a lead bullfighter who has taken the alternativa.
:maybe cause not all of Spain practice bullfights and they are not bull rings on every corner of every city you know (it is only seen in the capital and southern parts of spain). just like I'm american but don't know anything about rodeo/cowboys I may think I do but would be wrong as I am a city girl. Also english is not their native language so they wouldn't know how to say it or translate it into english.--Anen87 (talk) 18:45, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Matador (From Bullfighting discussion) 

message: I have tried to move the article to Torero without success.  As that page already exists the move is not permitted.  Right now Torero is just a redirect.--Counsel 15:59, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 

message: Torero (bullfighter) → Bullfighter — This would be more inclusive and allow discussion of bullfighters that aren't toreros because they don't come from Spanish speaking countries (e.g. Forcado, Cavaleiro (discussed in Rejoneador)).  Also, the word torero is not commonly used in English--as was discussed before.  While the proposal to move the page to "matador" was rightly rejected, it doesn't seem that anyone thought to move the page to the English name and avoid the whole issue! Calliopejen1 17:51, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: *Doesn't this translate as Toreador? That's a term in use in the English language, and as per WP:ENGLISH, if such a term exists we should be using it ahead of foreign language terms. I'd recommend moving the dab page to Toreador (disambiguation), and then moving this page to Toreador. --DeLarge 16:30, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: 71.114.183.105 (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 20:41, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: What is the song they play in the ring

message: Explains what Picadors and Banderilleros do, but lacks anything of substance except popularity info on the Matador. What weapon or gear does he use? Well, maybe I am missing something here... in which case, that just goes to prove that it's confusing, considering the fact that I've carefully re-read the article several times to try to figure the roles out! 128.195.186.44 (talk) 22:16, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Matador description 

message: "There is no contest, simple punctuation, nor any formal classification."
The intent and meaning of this is lost on me. DAVilla (talk) 22:05, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I got curious and went looking... it was added in this edit, but that doesn't clarify anything. Jessicapierce (talk) 01:19, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That referred obviously to the ears and tail awarded for each performance. I have edited it. --Jotamar (talk) 16:35, 3 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  definition of punctuation 

message: Why is banteng added as a link? Can anyone find evidence that banteng have ever been used in blood sports? Thanks!
:Kortoso  (talk) 06:21, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Banteng?