Talk:Ginger ale

message: Hopefully more useful article now.
/BP 81.225.216.15 (talk) 00:02, 18 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleaned up

message: While consulting this article, I noticed a sentence beginning with "on September 29th" - however, the year is missing. Even if it refers to "2007", the year should be stated (1) to avoid confusion, and (2) because by next year it will be dated.
I know I should correct it myself; however, no reference was provided to the magazine(?) quoted, so I am completely in the dark. Mip | Talk 10:10, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  September 29th 

message: I have to wonder if Ginger Ale orignated from Switchel.192.88.158.211 23:38, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Switchel]] 

message: Although ginger ale is also claimed to be an Irish invention, many recognize this tasty beverage as a Canadian creation by John McLaughlin, a chemist and pharmacist. Having established a soda water bottling plant in Toronto in 1890, McLaughlin began developing flavour extracts to add to the water in 1904. That year, he introduced "Pale Dry Ginger Ale," the bubbly libation that would be patented in 1907 as "Canada Dry Ginger Ale." An instant success, Canada Dry products were accepted by appointment to the Royal Household of the governor general, and although the company has changed hands a number of times, today the products are sold around the world. canadiangeographic.ca  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.114.67.73 (talk) 02:37, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  First line rewrite 

message: Ginger ale is a soft drink flavored with ginger.
change to -->
Ginger ale is an infusion made by steeping ginger into hot water. Most commercial preparations also add sugar, thus making the beverage into a soft drink.
This rewrite should be done to show the similarities between herbal tea, mate, tea, ...
Please look into and change this line. Thanks.
KVDP (talk) 13:43, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What you are describing is a ginger tea, which is not ginger ale.--RLent (talk) 16:42, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  First line rewrite 

message: That's not true in my experience.Kostaki mou (talk) 02:28, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It varies on location. For example, soda machines at rest areas in Ohio have them but it is absent from those in Indiana. In fact, I have yet to find cold ginger ale anywhere in Indiana.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.227.1.90 (talk) 00:32, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right.  I was on a trip to various western states this summer and found it well-nigh impossible to find.  In the east, it's quite common.  Kostaki mou (talk) 00:42, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

text: As has already been said, it varies with the location.  See the comments immediately above.  Kostaki mou (talk) 21:31, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: ". . . vending machines and soda fountains rarely contain ginger ale"

message: The following is made-up, fashionable nonsense:
"...despite the reduction in sweetness and clarity of flavor which this brings, and despite the increased health and obesity risks of HFCS."Rt3368 (talk) 23:29, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  HFCS Blather 

message: Is it accurate that Cantrell was American? I don't see that stated anywhere in the reference listed. Belfast is in Ireland.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.62.168.162 (talk) 13:19, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  American? 

message: "Ginger ale, has recently been found to contain many wonderus healing properties, Dr. Brendan Forrest of Prime research has been experimenting with Ginger ale as a cure for herpes, A.I.D.S, syphilis, and male erectile dysfunction. Many also believe that Marvel Comics based their "super solder serum" from Captain America comics. Ginger ale has also been used as an alternative to the Plan B pill."
What the hell? Someone please tell me this article doesn't say what I think this article says. That's fucked up.--75.162.23.150 (talk) 04:51, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Healing properties & plan b alternative?? 

message: The first paragraph of the history section ends with this sentence:
:Golden ginger ale, like ginger beer, is mainly consumed as a carbonated type drink and not a soda in its own right.
Apart from being unsupported by authority, the sentence seems to assert a distinction without a difference. Wikipedia's article on  soft drinks uses "carbonated drink" and "soda" interchangeably, as far as I can discern.
I'm adding a  tag, for the time being, but unless somebody comes up with a legitimate difference between "carbonated drink" and "soda in its own right", the whole sentence should be deleted as meaningless.
Incidentally, the "type" in "carbonated type drink" is superfluous: it adds nothing to "carbonated drink", except perhaps the illusion of technical precision.  I haven't bothered to delete it because I think the whole sentence should be deleted.
Jdcrutch (talk) 15:57, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Carbonated type drink" vs. "soda in its own right"? 

message: What's the difference between them?
The latter is fermented and cloudy, having been brewed, thus naturally carbonated.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.49.255.159 (talk) 16:29, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ginger ale vs. Ginger beer 

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thread_title:  Fair use candidate from Commons: [[:File:Soft Drink.svg]] 

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message: The history section has a comparison/contrast with ginger beer that makes no sense.  Apparently there is no difference between the two drinks except for a major difference which is actually two major differences.  Apparently the two drinks are essentially the same except for having difference names, different appearance and different taste. LowKey (talk) 06:03, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section mess 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Subsection Other flavours is manifestly incomplete, e.g. cranberry flavour, not mentioned, is the commonest in my experience (maybe just this time of year), and a manufacturer might decide to add half a dozen new flavours tomorrow (they have! https://www.canadadry.com/#/). The mint flavour is given undue prominence, IMO; that may be a regional or historical difference, in which case if we're going for completeness that s/b noted & cited. The "Canada Dry...hot ginger ale" news item failed verification and the ref links to Coca-Cola not Canada Dry. A list of "all" flavours would be almost certainly incomplete and very quickly out of date. I'm tempted to redact the subsection into a single sentence but for now I've just added cleanup tags. D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 20:38, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Variations — Other flavours 

message: The first sentence in the History section, "Ginger ale is known to be first produced by the watchmaker and silversmith Jacob Schweppe in 1783 in Geneva.", is unreferenced and afaik untrue. Schweppe in 1783 is said by some to have made the first carbonated water, but he in turn attributed the discovery to Jacob Priestley, who is indeed credited with the invention in his Wikipedia article. I can find no reference to Jacob Schweppe himself making a ginger ale. Possibly Schweppe made the first commercial carbonated water. The company Schweppe moved to England soon after, and presumably started making its now-famous ginger ale by the early twentieth century; perhaps another scholar may wish to find a reliable reference to Schweppe (the company?) inventing dry ginger ale—historical "firsts" are always interesting—but the attribution to Canadian John J. McLaughlin in the 3rd para seems much better attested. I am removing the uncited sentence for now. D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 22:27, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  History—invention? 

message: A few months back an anonymous editor changed a couple of  spellings of "flavour" and "colour" to the American "flavor" and "color", under the mistaken impression they were typos. Sbishop then made the change to USA spelling consistent throughout the article, except that they missed the Other flavours subsection or it later reverted. WP policy prefers consistent spelling style within an article, so in honour of Canadian John J. McLaughlin, the inventor, and following the Canadian Oxford Dictionary and the Canadian Press Style Guide, I am reverting the whole article to the original Canadian spelling in "-our". D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 22:55, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling consistency 

message: I doubt very much that salicylic acid is used in "most" or any commercial ginger ales, in view of its bitter taste and toxicity, The curious idea that it might be so used apparently comes from a very old home-brew recipe book from 1888. I will remove this misleading and possibly dangerous sentence altogether. I also doubt the common use of pasteurization by steam, which also comes from the 1888 book. Finally, the pH of Canada Dry being 2.82 (a suspiciously precise number) comes from a single 2016 Journal of the American Dental Association paper, which tested an arbitrary selection of beverages, all purchased in a single location, Birmingham Alabama. That is not sufficient validation for a generalized statement in Wikipedia. So the whole section vanishes. Since the whole area of preserving techniques and chemicals is proprietary, and ginger ale (as opposed to ginger beer) is very seldom prepared at home, I am deleting the section. If anyone has other relevant info on preservation to add with reliable cites it can go in the Processing section. 
I am also deleting the accompanying picture of Japanese sterilized bottles, canada.dry.japan.jpg, from the article. If anyone knows how to remove it from the database (if not used elsewhere), please do. If glass bottles are still used for ginger ale anywhere in the modern world, I trust they are sterilized; we don't need a picture. D Anthony Patriarche (talk) 01:23, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Preservation