Category talk:Gay writers

message: James Baldwin, Gore Vidal, Walt Whitman, Oscar Wilde, Adam Haslett. Some who can edits lists, please add them. Ken Ireland
Could DENTON WELCH be added to the list of gay writers? I'm too much of a novice here to have sussed out how to do it yet - Cheers
Hey, is Michael Cunningham gay? If he is, then I think he should be included on this list... --little Alex 04:15, Dec 9, 2004 (UTC)
:I added most of the people currently in this category, and as far as I'm concerned, if you can find evidence that he is gay and either there is something in his article mentioning that and its relationship to his work, or if not you add such a paragraph or section or whatever, I'm all for his inclusion.  The reason I'd like to see something in the article specifically mentioning his sexuality before he is added is that a consensus was reached elsewhere that, when dealing with categories involving people's sexuality this was the best way to go (because its something people often get upset over, etc.).  -Seth Mahoney 00:03, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)
 Please add Somerset Maugham. thanks (tn2ak2001)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tn2ak2001 (talk • contribs) 23:34, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Moved the following text here for the time being:
:Those who have written in science or other academic disciplines should be placed in other categories (scientists, philosophers, sexologists, etc).
I agree that maybe we should break this up a little more - for instance, many of the people on this list are academics, several of them are philosophers, historians, etc.  I'm just not sure its going to be this easy.  What do we do with gay men who wrote literature and philosophy, for example?  Also, before we add notices like this we should be sure the appropriate categories exist and link to them.  Also, rather than an "etc.", we should make a full list of appropriate categories, so people adding articles to these categories know which ones exist and so on.  Finally, with writers as a general category, adding people is fairly non-controversial: we have a case for their placement here.  We could make similar arguments for philosophers and sexologists.  I'm not so sure that's the case with, say, scientists and mathemeticians.  -Seth Mahoney 20:20, Feb 27, 2005 (UTC)
Is it possible for Wikipedia to make a category tag that references a sub-topic on a page?  Would be nice to have this page with sub-cats for different types of writers.  That way, all the writers stay together, but people have more chance of working out which they might be interested in following up the entry on.  -Fontgirl 19:38, Mar 01, 2005 (UTC)
:I'm not entirely sure I understand what you're getting at, but I think the closest we can do is make, for example, :Category:Gay writers a subcategory of :Category:Writers (which has already been done).  This allows the reader to follow the link to :Category:Gay writers and then move up the category tree from there.  Alternatively, we can have multiple categories on a page, for example :Category:Gay writers and :Category:American writers.  However, in cases where both a subcategory and a parent category fit (like :Category:Gay writers and :Category:Writers, use of both is discouraged - instead, the consensus is to add only the subcategory.  -Seth Mahoney 06:58, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)
::I think Fontgirl just meant that "gay" describes the writer more than the work genre, i.e. Nicola Griffith is a lesbian writer (I think), yes, but that doesn't say anything about what genre her work is in (SF/F and then mystery/thriller/noir).--little Alex 16:54, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other disciplines 

message: The rather famous author/poet of the Beat Generation Allen Ginsberg is not on the list, as he should be.  I don't have the capability to edit the page, whoever does should do so.  The Way 05:13, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ginsberg 

message: Is this category exclusively for men who are gay in real life?  If this is the case, Sherman Alexie doesn't really belong in it.  His article acknowledges that he identifies as straight.Bjones 12:03, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Sherman Alexie]] 

message: ...is also a straight writer who deals with gay issues.  He's married to a woman.
Chabon is bisexual and he has talked about this in interviews and in an essay he wrote about the mysteries of pittsburgh.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.103.102.92 (talk) 04:47, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Michael Chabon]] 

message: Yeah, this is an interesting issue - there should probably be some discussion on it.  Should self-identified straight writers who deal with gay issues be included in this category?  My first inclination is to either eliminate this set of categories and replace them with :Category: Writers who deal with LGBT issues or something similar, or to make :Category: Writers who deal with LGBT issues (or something similar) a parent category of :Category: Gay writers, and move all the straight people there.  Eve Sedgwick is another interesting person as far as this sort of thing goes - she self-identifies as non-straight, is married to a man, and writes quite a bit about gay issues.  Where does she belong?  -Seth Mahoney 16:24, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  For straight writers? 

message: There should be a link to Category:Lesbian_writers, but I'm not sure how to do that without actually adding the page to that category. Njál 15:47, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Lesbian_writers 

message: See :Talk:List of gay, lesbian or bisexual people#Listing people on sexual orientations? shouldn't this page be deleted?. Political, religious, racial origins & sexual orientations shouldn't be listed on Wikipedia because this constitutes a breach of prviacy. Lapaz 03:36, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This has already been discussed elsewhere, although that particular point was never brought up.  Nonetheless, I can't see how such listings constitute a breach of privacy if the person in question publicly identified as such, which is a requirement for the application of this category (and similar ones).  -Smahoney 19:16, 29 May 2006 (UTC)

text: For living writers then the guidance of WP:BLP should be followed. If there is a authoritative source with a non-controversial statement that the writer under discussion was gay then there should be no issue.—Ashleyvh (talk) 07:47, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listing people on sexual orientation should not be allowed 

message: Yet another question about how to edit this page. I wanted to add this article to the list, but can't. Baker not only identified himself as a gay man in numerous articles and interviews, but he also wrote several novels about about gay issues. Jeffpw 10:26, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[James Robert Baker]]

message: Anyone object to adding a hierarchy map to the category page? Something like:
:Category:LGBT
*:Category:LGBT culture
**:Category:LGBT literature
***:Category:LGBT writers
****:Category:Gay writers
I have been finding it quite confusing choosing what categories to apply and this sort of map is quite helpful.-- Ashley VH 11:05, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category hierarchy 

message: Where's he on the list?  He was gay. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.63.201.84 (talk) 05:40, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  William S. Burroughs? 

message: I know, it's just like this crazy thing I guess.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Banaranaram (talk • contribs) 00:00, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Girls can be gay. 

message: Wonderful poet "rose wet cave"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.235.13.103 (talk) 03:17, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adrianne Rich