Talk:Basque nationalism

message: I do not understand why ETA is not referred as a terrorist organization, because that is what it is (it places bombs, kills cold blodedly, blackmails businessmen...) and that is how is natinally defined in Spain.
I trully do not understand why that term is widely avoided in Wikipedia.
Umm . . . where can I find the population?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.31.57.229 (talk) 15:20, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it is called neutral point-of-view, which differs from Spanish point-of-view. O Fenian (talk) 17:52, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Heh, Spanish point-o-view. How many people have to kill ETA for the English wikipedia consider it a terrorist organization?. 1000, 2000, 3000?. Aaaah, Wikipedia, the place where the most amazing minds (in a titanic collective effort) are devoted to discussions about the sex of angels ignoring the most elementary common sense; nice, nice place :). Is this the legacy that are we leaving to future generations? ... so, so creepy.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.19.170.163 (talk) 06:51, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Defining ETA 

message: I removed this unsourced piece:
:Franco  of course, had no intention to destroy a heavy industry controlled by him, that's self-explanatory. The final aim of creating a small independent and Vatican-linked state was not achieved.
I don't understand this:
:(the believing peasant or unsophisticated basis)
POV:
:Persons who dare to say that the "philosopher-warriors" of ETA behave sect-like, or degenerated into a mafia-style organisations are eliminated.  ETA has to its "credit" to have killed over 1.200 persons, injured many more, and forced or "convinced" 150.000 basque citizens (non nationalists) to leave their own country during the 80's to the 90's.
:Like in all sects there are "wise" guys who control finances and policy, and the more ideologized or fanatic "basis" in charge of executions or terrorist acts [ekintzas], of controlling the members of ETA in prison and their families, demonstrations and administrative matters (including international propaganda, mostly in Belgium, France, Ireland, USA, Central and South-America).
--Error 01:03, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed

message: Just found some articles in this regard: Should this be put somewhere here? 
http://www.tehrantimes.com/index_View.asp?code=175123
http://www.france24.com/en/20080809-thousands-march-spains-basque-region-independence
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/stories/afp_world/view/366332/1/.html Lihaas (talk) 05:47, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  call for independence 

message: Hello, Etxerat is an organisation supporting Basque prisoners with alleged or convicted offences related to politics. They do not deal with Basque people who have committed common offences. Sorry this is NOT RESEARCH, this is like Coke is a fizzy drink. Regards Iñaki LL (talk) 16:41, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: O my. Ok, so IRA's attacks were not politically driven? PKK's in Turkey? They were just street gangs, hardened criminals intent on destroying a peaceful society? Ask their victims or the national media of these countries, they will tell you yes, they were so. Same examples almost everywhere. Come on, this is not about your feelings. I understand that whoever has gone through a terrorist attack or strongly sympathises with them can see/feel their assailants as nothing more than beasts (this is valid for all types of terrorism), but let's not add to the tense atmosphere living in Spain against any effort made to move on. Coming back to the centre of discussion, Etxerat can be defined with international perspective as an organisation of relatives and friends supporting Basque prisoners and fugitives with convictions or charges related to politically driven offences. Granted, quite a long definition but an accurate one. Iñaki LL (talk) 17:59, 15 May 2011 (UTC)

text: There is a crime that has been for common reasons and there is a politically driven one. The term terrorism is all the more controversial to use if we bear in mind the extension this term has taken in Spain - youngsters attacking or burning property, members of parties and whole parties, journalists of closed down newspapers, ETA or politically driven Basque prisoners released from prison and harassed by the police or other groups/individuals, harassed and menaced relatives of murdered Angel Berrueta after the 11-m attack, people reported by anonimous individuals and charged who feel defenceless, squatters, relatives of the above prisoners economically drained for having to travel hundreds of Km several times a month. The term terrorism is not a recommended term (NPV) in Wikipedia, for all the right reasons. Iñaki LL (talk) 22:48, 16 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Etxerat

message: Would it be agreeable to start Draft:Basque autonomy that would be focused on the political movement for further autonomy (and independence) of the Basque country?
This could be a similar page to Catalan independence movement (Catalan nationalism), Galician independence movement (Galician nationalism) and Corsican autonomy (Corsican nationalism). Titus Gold (talk) 22:38, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Draft started. Please feel free to edit and/or add comments. Thanks Titus Gold (talk) 16:42, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Basque autonomy article