Talk:Cal Cunningham

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message: Someone added demeaning and racist comments in the personal life section. I removed them. 10/3/2019  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.242.255.37 (talk) 15:23, 3 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Racist comments in personal life section 

message: This article appears to be written by someone close to Mr. Cunningham and contains numerous claims that are not verifiable or sourced.  I would appreciate some help dealing with this mess of an article.  I have asked for citations on a few things that I have noticed already but will delete those in a week or so if they are not/cannot be resolved.  I would appreciate any help anyone can provide for this article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alex the Nerd (talk • contribs) 20:58, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  I can't do this alone 

message: It seems like a large section and I'm not sure if it qualifies under advertising but it sure feels that way to me, what do you guys think? Alex the Nerd (talk) 13:08, 12 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved, out of the section, information that relates to other sections (for example, an award for military service. What's left doesn't seem to belong elsewhere. (Section title shortened, also.) -- John Broughton   (♫♫) 18:00, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Awards, Honors, Community Service encyclopedic? 

message: There have been some objections raised in previous edits to content on WasteZero:
*21:02, 8 June 2020‎ Marquardtika talk contribs‎ 21,013 bytes -1,216‎ Reverted good faith edits by Jjjjjjjjjj (talk): Every source here is to the company website, we need independent sourcing per WP:RS (TW)
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The News & Observer is a well-known paper in the area which has the largest circulation in the state, and so I'd say it meets WP:RS.
In terms of linking to the company website I went through the pages, and it looked to be essentially information about their business operations, and not so much grandiose marketing. As far as I can tell they aren't directly selling to consumers anyway, but trying to establish deals with municipal governments.
I think the objective can be just to try to briefly convey to readers what the company does, and then if people are curious they can click on the link to get more information from them.
Jjjjjjjjjj (talk) 17:45, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it makes sense to briefly indicate what the company does, especially if it can be cited to a secondary source like the News & Observer. —Granger (talk · contribs) 00:19, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for starting this discussion. The newspaper source is good independent sourcing, but I've removed the citations to the company website because those aren't needed to achieve the goal of briefly conveying what the company does. Marquardtika (talk) 20:17, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion of Information on WasteZero 

message: Cal Cunningham is married with two children.https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/cal-cunningham-admits-sending-sexual-texts-strategist-cal-cunningham-wife-thom-tillis-support-ap-b755718.html?amphttps://justfacts.votesmart.org/candidate/biography/40999/cal-cunninghamhttps://www.calfornc.com/meet-cal/https://amp.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article246191610.htmlhttps://apnews.com/article/senate-elections-north-carolina-archive-cal-cunningham-dea469d30c56cfada78244a8af6065b3 In October 2020 it was reported that Cunningham had sent sexually explicit text messages to California public relations strategist Arlene Guzman Todd.https://www.dailywire.com/news/democrat-senate-candidate-sent-sexual-texts-to-woman-who-isnt-his-wifehttps://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/north-carolina/articles/2020-10-03/cal-cunningham-admits-to-sending-sexual-texts-to-strategisthttps://www.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article246191610.htmlhttps://www.fox13memphis.com/news/politics/cal-cunningham/POAWWGHQDM6AYUXRJAT7VWN2NA/https://www.wral.com/cal-cunningham-admits-to-sexual-messages-with-calif-woman-will-stay-in-senate-race/19318069/https://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/cal-cunningham-admits-sending-sexts-woman-who-is-not-his-wife/XU32Q6F735CYFGRAJ5GJXVEDIU/ Cunningham has admitted and apologised for sending the messages.
https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/north-carolina/articles/2020-10-03/cal-cunningham-admits-to-sending-sexual-texts-to-strategisthttps://www.dailywire.com/news/democrat-senate-candidate-sent-sexual-texts-to-woman-who-isnt-his-wifehttps://apnews.com/article/senate-elections-north-carolina-archive-cal-cunningham-dea469d30c56cfada78244a8af6065b3https://amp.newsobserver.com/news/politics-government/article246191610.htmlhttps://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/cal-cunningham-admits-sending-sexual-texts-strategist-cal-cunningham-wife-thom-tillis-support-ap-b755718.html?amp
There should be a personal life section added to his page that says the above, that he is married with two children, and apologised and admitted to sexually messages a woman not his wife. The sources are good, and there are plenty more online that can be added. See Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources. --2001:8003:59DB:4100:A97C:6B3D:9A2A:D8CF (talk) 21:12, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , I would really appreciate your advice and judgement here. KidAd talk 21:23, 3 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  : The IP user's text is bad for multiple reasons: (1) WP:OVERCITE, (2) unnecessarily names the other woman (who is low-profile and whose name has not been widely reported - WP:BLP); (3) does not reflect source material ("suggestive" or "romantic" or "flirtatious" are the words most RS are using, not "explicit"); (4) fails to make clear that the texting was mutual (sources usually say "exchanged" and we should not imply unsolicited conduct); and (5) Daily Wire is not RS. But I agree the article should briefly mention the occurrence without these pitfalls, and I've inserted two sentences in a "personal life" section. See what you think. Neutralitytalk 00:20, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , Thank you. You said this in a far more eloquent way than I could. I was dealing with multiple things at once, but it appears that the IP has backed off. I think the content added to the "personal life" section is good for now. As the story is picked up, I'm sure more information will be released. KidAd talk 00:44, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal life-Cal Cunningham sending sexual messages to a woman who is not his wife. He has admitted and apologised for this. 

message: It belongs in the personal life or 2020 campaign sections, yes. But not the lead. Snooganssnoogans (talk) 01:09, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree; it merits a sentence. Per WP:LEAD, it's amply represented in the body with its own subsection, and while it's not WP:DUE as an aspect of his personal life, it is due as an aspect of his political career. We have room for a sentence describing the trajectory of his campaign, and the sex scandal is obviously the most defining aspect of it.  talk 20:15, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sending romantic messages to his non-wife doesn't belong in the lead