Talk:Zhan zhuang

message: The following is probably better off at Yiquan than here, as it only describes how the techniques is used in that style. Most other Chinese styles use post standing, and use it in different ways for different purposes:
The Yiquan method falls into two categories:
Yangshen zhuang, health postures; and Jiji zhuang, combat postures.
The health postures are so called, because the body is allowed to become very relaxed while maintaining the posture. This relatively relaxed state is beneficial to health due to the calming effect on the mind and due to other effects such as the lowering of blood pressure and of heart rate. 
Small adjustments are made to the posture that one has adopted, in order to minimise any localised muscular tension. As one becomes more proficient at achieving the relaxed state, one may become aware of a floating sensation due to the lack of any localised tension.
Although many practitioners focus on the Yangshen postures as health methods, these postures are nevertheless considered to be useful for combat training, since the lack of localised tension allows any part of the body to be able, instantly to move in any direction, rapidly, without having to make any intermediate adjustments.
The Jiji zhuang, or combat postures have a different purpose from the health postures. In these postures, the practitioner adopts a stance similar to a health posture, i.e. with no localised tension, but now the practitioner tries to move every part of his body towards a particular direction, as if pushing or pulling; and at the same time he tries to prevent that movement from happening. The essential similarity with the health postures is that there is still no localised tension, even though mechanical work is being done. Since no movement occurs, the forces remain in a state of static equilibrium. 
This training can be varied in several ways, whereby the direction of attempted movement is changed rapidly to improve responsiveness, for example; or where the degree of effort in the attempted movement is increased, in order to build strength.
--Fire Star 16:27, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mcherrill, please sign your contributions with ~~~~. The paragraph about Neijia you added is more suitable for the article Neijia. --JohJak2 13:18, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
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message: An often neglected aspect in the Wikipedia articles regarding things related to Chinese martial arts, is how demanding they are.  I'm surprised to find there is no information on requirements such as the schools of olden times demanding a student work their way up to holding a stance for four hours.  Four hours, that is, without resting; while I could be mistaken I believe master Yang Lu Chan, the founder of the Yang style of Tai Chi, required of all beginers to hold Zhan Zhuang for four hours.  Zhan Zhuang is for the internal arts, what Ma Bu is for the exernal ones.  For the Shaolin schools, and all related arts, Ma Bu is the very first stance learned, and for the internal schools, its Zhan Zhuang.  It looks easy, but the exercise is brutal; just 20 minutes can be overwhelming, even if the shoulders are strong.  Of course that's beside the point; I am just pointing out, that Wikipedia's Chinese martial arts articles should have stuff on the demands.
67.148.120.103 (talk) 06:47, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Applies to All Chinese Martial Arts Pages 

message: I have only been doing taijiquan for a year now, but isn't the man in white on the photograph (the only one in full view) doing it very essentially wrong, with his elbows down like that? Also, his knees appear to be locked. (And he's wearing sunglasses, for crying out loud! :) )
In other words, don't we need a better photograph, especially since a picture is said to say more than an thousand words? (And at the moment the article isn't even that long, so there you go. :) )
Well, one out of three's not bad: There's nothing wrong with his elbows; in fact probably some of the others in the picture need to sink their elbows a little.  And why can't he wear sunglasses??
But you might be right about the knees.  No way to know if his knees really are locked out, but I agree it looks that way.  Possibly there could be a better picture.35.129.66.46 (talk) 06:45, 22 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photograph