Wikipedia talk:In the news/Archive 9

message: There is a grammar mistake, "Georgia threatens to block block Russia's bid". Should not be block block. Cheers, Ansell 10:47, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing that out. Fixed now. jaco♫plane 10:50, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar, block block 

message: * The sentence: "Roger D. Kornberg wins the 2006 Nobel Prize in Chemistry for his work on genetic transcription" does not use correct terminology. The correct phrase should say either gene transcription or DNA transcription. The term genetic transcription is not really used. If you want to be accurate you can also say the molecular basis of eukaryotic transcription but that's a mouthful. Nrets 13:22, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I was thinking that too. That's why I had added "molecular basis". I'm changing it to "gene" instead of "genetic". Oh, I guess it already was changed. Nevermind then! --Nishkid64 01:34, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nobel Prize in Chemistry 

message: I don't think this should be on the front page, given that the book's article is scanty and well, I think shifting the focus to the author is merely just trying to shift the onus somewhere else. John Riemann Soong 23:36, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "one of the world's most prestigious literary prizes"doesn't qualify for the Main Page of an encyclopedia?! If the book's article is an issue, it could just be de-linked; it didn't actually exist until a short time ago. -Splash - tk 23:54, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is an encyclopedia, so I'm in favor of anything educational at the ITN, like this one. --Howard the Duck 05:17, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey John Riemann Soong, an article created today which is being developed is "scanty"? Scanty? I hope you are joking. Moriori 06:27, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inheritance of Loss 

message: I've added a suggestion to feature FIDE World Chess Championship 2006 in ITN. It is a nicely done article, and the match finished less than an hour ago. There is also a free image available! It is also notable because this result ends the 13 year split in the world chess titles. Please see Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page/Candidates. Thanks. Carcharoth 15:51, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  World Chess Championship? 

message: :Ban Ki-moon is appointed to succeed Kofi Annan
Is there any reason why the word "appointed" is used to describe the Secretary General elect?  Guettarda 21:17, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, from Ban Ki-moon: "On October 13, the 192 member General Assembly adopted a resolution appointing Ban as Secretary General." I presume this is where the wording comes from, and that the Secretary General is officially appointed by the Security Council, although that "appointment" stems from a vote of the General Council and recommendation (after quasi-votes) from the Security Council. I'm not sure which one wording would be preferable, but it seems he was technically appointed. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 00:07, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secretary-General elect 

message: Even though it is something that hasn't happened in the cup history, is it really notable? It's an 8-team competition, which doesn't seem that big, and it's only in South Africa, apparently. Nishkid64 17:59, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It arguably South Africa's largest domestic competition, with interest from other parts of the world, such as Australiasia, Argentina, British Isles and Europe.--HamedogTalk|@ 18:04, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, its no the first draw in the 127 year history, its the first use of extra time!--HamedogTalk|@ 18:13, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry about that!  The original wording ("The Currie Cup championship match ends in a draw for the first time in the Cup's 127 year history after extra-time.") was misleading.  I've corrected the entry.  —David Levy 18:22, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay. I just wasn't sure, so I wanted to have some assurance on the issue. Nishkid64 18:26, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its pretty notable imo. As I understand it, the CC is the oldest domestic rugby competition in the world. It has big interest outside SA as well. Cvene64 18:36, 14 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Usally the Currie Cup wouldn't go up on the ITN, but it may be rugby union's oldest competition and extra-time has been used for the first time in its 127 year history. IMO, if rugby should go up, it should be limited to the Rugby World Cup (as you mentioned), the Heineken Cup or Six Nations Championship and the Super 14 or Tri Nations Series. This year I think the 2006 Super 14 final should of gone up because of it's bizarre weather, but in general years, we should just have the Six Nations and the Tri Nations go up aswell as the World Cup when its on. If something notable happens in the S14 or Heineken Cup, we can have that too.--HamedogTalk|@ 12:04, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[2006 Currie Cup]] 

message: Please, can whoever puts the dates on the ITN entries (to help editors get the chronological order right) get the dates right!!! :-) There has been a sequences of edits where the chess entry had its dates changed, the pic removed, the date changed back to the correct date (13 October), and then changed back to the incorrect one (12 October), removed from ITN, and then put back. To be clear, the correct date is, and always has been, 13 October, as this is when the event ended. Carcharoth 10:06, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it has been fixed now. Nishkid64 14:17, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Getting dates wrong 

message: How did 'Ununoctium' make it into the main page news section with not a single reference to a news organization reporting on it?? Does it not say 'In the news' as section title?? Awolf002 22:43, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ununoctium 

message: Why does the word "leftist" appear on the front page? It's a propaganda term. --61.214.155.14 01:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: (copied from  Portal talk:Current events.) Anon has a point. Can we improve the wording away from "banana tycoon vs. leftist rival"?  Bolivian Unicyclist 18:23, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "leftist rival Rafael Correa"

message: Voting... "remains a stalemate" > "remains at a stalemate"? Bolivian Unicyclist 15:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: UNSC election wording

message: I'm not sure the wording makes it clear that Manasseh Sogavare is PM of the Solomon Islands. The mention of Australian peacekeepers really confuses things. Does anyone have any ideas about what we should do with this? --Oldak Quill 15:57, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Would mentioning that the PM's office is in Honiara help clarify that Manasseh Sogavare is not the Aussie PM ? --64.229.7.224 16:28, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  How about mentioning Australian peacekeepers first: "Australian peacekeepers in the Regional Assistance Mission with police in the Solomon Islands (flag pictured) raid the offices of Prime Minister Manasseh Sogavare in connection to an extradition request for Julian Moti."? Does this give too much mention to the Australian police? --Oldak Quill 16:42, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah it appears to put too much emphasis on Australian police. I think the current version is fine as it is. Nishkid64 16:59, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Solomon Islands story

message: I have made Wikipedia talk:In the news section on the Main Page a redirect to this page.  Conversations there have identical topics to those here, the only difference being that they are less frequent and there is less response. - BanyanTree 16:00, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  redirecting from [[Wikipedia talk:In the news section on the Main Page]] 

message: Is it possible to align the image to the story it illustrates? It appears to always sit at top right, and often refers to a story further down. This can be rather confusing, especially if it is an unfamilliar flag, where it could accompany several of the stories. Rcrowdy 15:35, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that's why we have (pictured) or something of that nature. I don't see how you can get confused if there is only one picture up, and only one mention of (pictured). Nishkid64 17:01, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's true that from reading the column it becomes apparent to which story the picture relates; it was more the initial impression given when looking at the main page that I was concerned about. Can you see how not aligning the image to the story could cause inappropriate juxtapositions? It is a minor issue, but it is the kind of thing that you wouldn't see in print media. Not that that is a benchmark or anything. Is there a technical difficulty in aligning the image to its story, or has a stylistic descision been made? Rcrowdy 12:00, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there was a discussion about this sometime back. People suggested moving down or highlighting the news article with the picture. I guess habit left it the way it is.--HamedogTalk|@ 13:06, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Accompanying image

message: As discussed on the Firefox talk page, Firefox 2 has not yet been released. -- Schapel 17:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On an official Mozilla server marked as a final build - the main page update is just being screwy I think, in either case, will uncomment it out when it's finally released -- Tawker 18:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please make sure that there is a relevant item at Portal:Current events before adding this.  I can't find one now. - BanyanTree 18:50, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mozilla Firefox 

message: I don't think that the release of Mozilla Firefox 2.0 is important enough to put in the news column. I think it's vandalism.
:Uh...it's not vandalism, it's just that a new software release really isn't newsworthy. 1ne 00:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think I'm a vandal :o -- Tawker 18:59, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mozilla Firefox 2.0

message: * I dont think we should just say that anything that is the pinnacle of a sport should automatically be on the list, as I cant say that the NRL really deserves a place on the ITN.-Narrasawa 07:11, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, how about we limit it to international competitions. Then we would get:
Basketball
*World Championship
Baseball
*World Baseball Classic
Cricket
*ICC World Cup
*ICC Champions Trophy
Football (Soccer)
*FIFA World Cup
*FIFA Club Championship
Golf
*PGA Tour Winner
Netball
*World Cup
Rugby League
*World Cup
Rugby Union
*World Cup
*6 Nations (Only Europe)
Rugby Sevens
*World Cup
Ice Hockey
*Stanley Cup (US/CANADA)
Other
*Olympics
*Commonwealth Games
Comments?--HamedogTalk|@ 08:14, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't mean to sound like a troll, but would that mean that the 2006 Micronesian Games woauld have qualified to be in ITN?-gadfium 08:23, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't make policy, so I have no idea.--HamedogTalk|@ 08:33, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Sorry but how can you possibly put the Rugby League World Cup in there? The last tournament actually  incurred a massive finacial loss, so how can such a competition be notable enough to be in here?? and it is a silly concept to limit it to just international tournaments, what about Premier League, Super Bowl etc??(Mackai m 12:13, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Then replace it with Tri-Nations. See the first list for Super bowl and FA(I am assuming this one) Premier League. This is by no means policy at all, just thoughts.--HamedogTalk|@ 13:02, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

text: The World Series and NBA Finals are international competitions.  Of course, many sporting events involving teams from a specific nation carry the interest of fans in other nations, so I disagree with this proposed criterion.  —David Levy 13:15, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ignore the bottom list then - I have striked it out. The top list maybe receive more support.--HamedogTalk|@ 13:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

text: How can the Stanley Cup be on the list and not the World Series. Both series may or may not contain a Canadian team. And how can you exlude the Super Bowl, the biggest sporting event in North America -- Coasttocoast 05:36, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A list of qualifying sports events

message: Re: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template:In_the_news&diff=next&oldid=84517885
I think the word should be 'senior', not 'important'. -- 64.229.223.132 16:03, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Eloquence fixed it. Nishkid64 22:21, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eloquence: -important, seems out of place here (were other passengers not important?) 

message: The piture you display is not the one of brasilian president... It's Nicholas Stern... Better change this quickly!85.201.4.233 21:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Nishkid64 22:22, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wrong picture

message: Shouldn't it be "Could have economical impact similar to World Wars I, II and the Great Depression"?  The current way just doesn't sound right, at least to me.--KrossTalk 21:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I reworded it a bit. Tell me if you think it sounds good now. Nishkid64 22:27, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good.--KrossTalk 22:31, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stern's report