Talk:Janet Woollard

message: I've removed the Luke Woollard section for no, as it raises some BLP concerns. The main one being whether or not events that relate to her son, and don't seem to relate to Janet Woollard, should be covered in the article, as it seems to be added to reflect on her, without any real evidence that she is connected to it. - Bilby (talk) 10:51, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I'd go with no, as I'd expect a mother to support her son. :) I'm happy if the general consensus goes the other way, though - I just tend to be a bit cautious, as while I think the addition was perfectly justified, I've seen a few cases elsewhere in which incidents not directly related to the subject have been used to suggest a problem with the person the article is about through association. I don't think that was the intent here at all, but I'd like to raise the issue and see what everyone thinks about any possible BLP concerns. - Bilby (talk) 11:41, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

text: No worries, Don't get mw wrong, I also want to go with the consensus view, but the settlement offer was a direct link and I wanted to get my two cents in. Hughesdarren (talk) 11:55, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That's cool. :) And it might be enough - it's more than I've seen on some. But I'm not sure the extent that she was involved in the settlement, and the extent to which that is seen as important, so I can't make a call there. - Bilby (talk) 11:59, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Luke Woollard 

message: I believe Woollard has lost her seat in yesterday's election (http://www.abc.net.au/elections/wa/2013/guide/alfr.htm), so the article needs updating accordingly Mitch Ames (talk) 03:31, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  No longer the current member 

message: A revert of the text "He subsequently declared himself bankrupt to avoid paying compensation." made with the reason "revert verified text" using the reference http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/west-australian-mps-son-luke-woollard-declares-bankruptcy-over-claim/story-e6frfku0-1226337930269
This source was shown to be inaccurate linking to the source material at (http://l.yimg.com/ea/doc/-/120425/luke_woollard_statement_17pev07-17pev0b.pdf). The organisation reporting it also makes no such claims in it's own article dated the same day (http://www.news.com.au/national/luke-woollard-i-cant-pay-230000-boat-crash-compensation/story-e6frfkp9-1226338273070). 
This statement is poorly sourced and I have accordingly removed it again. N661599470 (talk) 11:00, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed 

message: I think we need to revisit this issue, which was discussed a few years ago. In the first place, BLP policy has tightened up since then; this sort of tangential reference to another person is now deprecated. Secondly, it has no lasting encyclopedic significance. That is to say, it is not an indispensable part of the subject's biography. There isn't any coverage of Luke Woollard over the past year; I see a reference from January 2015, but Janet Woollard is only mentioned in passing. (Incidentally, her husband was recently sued; she is mentioned in passing as his wife.) StAnselm (talk) 02:08, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: As discussed last time I'm happy to go with a consensus but I still think it was significant that it was the parents who paid the settlement which in turn had a good deal to do with her losing the next election. Maybe parts could be trimmed but surely the incident and resultant payout and media attention still warrants a mention.Hughesdarren (talk) 03:40, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a reliable source that connects the event with the election loss? If you can produce that, I would be much more likely to think that it belongs. (Don't forget also that the BLP policy covers two different things - what we write about Janet, and whether we introduce into her article something about someone else; as well as what we write about Luke, and whether we have his story in Wikipedia at all, since he is not a notable person or public figure.) StAnselm (talk) 05:13, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Luke Wollard, again