Talk:List of collegiate glee clubs

message: Some of the links link to the university's page, some of the links link to the glee club's page.  Many of these glee clubs don't have entries.  Maybe this should be standardized somehow?
alphabetizing the list would be nice, too. not having it in a table would make it easier to edit in new clubs. --Ch604 21:11, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree that the mixed linking is a problem. I'd suggest something like what's done on Collegiate secret societies in North America, where there's a separate column in the table for the university. That would allow listing multiple glee clubs more clearly. --Tjarrett (talk) 17:58, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link problems 

message: The Michigan Glee Club traces its roots to 1859.  Saying it was founded in 1876 ignores the fact that the glee clubs on their campus served exactly the same role. 68.62.17.244 (talk) 04:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: And saying that it was founded in 1859 is like saying the United States was founded in 1492.  After all, the United States can trace its roots to that point. Niremetal (talk) 04:03, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The United States traces its ideological and governmental roots to 1776.  It is the similar in this instance.  Newspaper articles of the time refer to a Michigan Glee Club in 1859.68.43.179.1 (talk) 21:35, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm inclined to honor the reference cited for the 1859 date in the Michigan Glee Club article--seems reliable enough. But if this article traces the glee club's roots to the "sophomore glee club" then the date would seem to be 1860 rather than 1859. If the ancestor group is the "university choir" then the 1859 reference stands. -Tjarrett (talk) 01:48, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founding dates 

message: There were two problems with the table in the article: 
# External links without titles
# Multiple groups on the same line (usually men's and women's glee clubs at the same institution)
I restructured the table as: group name, wikilinked if possible, linking to the group's home page if not; founding year; institution; and gender. I think this gives a better picture of the evolution of collegiate glee clubs.
The article could still use an expanded lede, but I think it's better for the restructure. -Tjarrett (talk) 13:43, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article restructure 

message: I have edited the list down to show only notable groups with their own articles. Anyone considering adding (or re-adding)  a group to this list should keep in mind the following from the Wikipedia:Lists (stand-alone lists) guideline:
"Ideally each entry on the list should have a Wikipedia article but this is not required if it is reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming in the future."
To test the reasonableness of your expectations, you may want to create the article on the group first and then add it to this list. UnitedStatesian (talk) 14:41, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion criterion 

message: I think a necessary complement to the work of ensuring that this list focuses on notable groups is the work of creating articles for clearly notable glee clubs where no article exists.
Last week I created an article for the Morehouse College Glee Club. I would bet that many of the below have similarly illustrious histories and are worthy of articles. I'd challenge other contributors to this page to adopt one or two of the redlinks below and make articles for them:
* Amherst College Glee Club (founded 1865) done
* Columbia University Glee Club (founded 1873)
* Princeton University Glee Club (founded 1874) done (see Princeton Glee Club
* WPI Men's Glee Club (1874)
* Ohio State University Men's Glee Club (1875) sone
* University of Rochester Men's Glee Club (1876)
* Mount Holyoke College Glee Club (1877)
* Michigan State University Men's Glee Club (1880)
* Smith College Glee Club (1885)
* University of Illinois Varsity Men's Glee Club (1886)
...And that's just the first ten articles that used to be on the list before it was winnowed down to include only groups with articles. I would bet that more than half of these groups are notable enough to merit their own article if only a little research were done. -Tjarrett (talk) 14:14, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Amherst's is done.  Just needed a little research.  Thanks for the suggestion! Walkertron5000 (talk) 03:08, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Glee Clubs in search of articles 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Is the listed gender here meant to be current or based on how the group was founded? Georgia Tech's Glee Club was founded as a men's group but has since become gender neutral 2610:148:1F00:2000:A44E:DD6E:81F1:618E (talk) 18:24, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Should be the gender today. UnitedStatesian (talk) 19:43, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gender