Talk:Unicode and HTML

message: While it is true that the character entities are divided into 3 groups, it does not help the reader's understanding of the relationship between Unicode and HTML to explain this to them. The groupings are basically arbitrary and exist as historical artifacts from the standardization processes that went into defining them (I had a hand in this, albeit very minor). If groupings are to be explained, it'd be better achieved by basing them on the comments from the .ent files, which go to a more precise level of detail that is aligned with the names of Unicode ranges.
I am also tired of cleaning up edits that, while detailed, take a very conversational, not encyclopedic, tone and are rife with errors in spelling, capitalization, punctuation and grammar. If I continue to see these, I am increasingly likely to revert them wholesale, regardless of what useful content they may include. Sorry to be surly, but I get the feeling that some are taking excessive advantage of others' willingness to clean up these mistakes. — mjb 19:45, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character entity groups 

message: Is the character encoded by an HTML number the same character that is encoded by Unicode by the same number? For example, is character number 2343 in HTML the same as 2343 in Unicode? --Abdull 14:31, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is, by definition (HTML does not define the meaning for the character numbers; it instead defers to unicode). --cesarb 15:36, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: yes the numbers do reffer to unicode code points. However most html entities are decimal (you can do hexadecmial ones but they aren't seen much) whilst unicode gennerally use hexadecimal when reffering to code points. Plugwash 16:30, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any reference to know since which version each browser supports hexadecimal entities, and which are the browsers that still don't support it? Because hexadecimal is so natural when so many charmap viewers give only hexadecimal unicode code… Lacrymocéphale  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.195.19.145 (talk) 13:02, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Same characters? 

message: Some web browsers, such as Mozilla Firefox, Opera, and Safari, are able to display multilingual web pages by intelligently choosing a font to display each individual character on the page. They will correctly display any mix of Unicode blocks, as long as appropriate fonts are present in the operating system.
Code2000 is a great font with many characters, but some characters are pretty badly resembled with Code2000, for example the IPA characters. Since installing Code2000 on my Windows XP, Mozilla Firefox always uses Code2000 for every special character there is to be displayed. How do I tell Firefox to use another font for IPA? Actually, how does Firefox decide what font to use for special characters if there are four different to choose? --Abdull 14:31, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: try posting on a mozilla forum your likely to get better support there. Plugwash 21:19, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  I don't want to use that font! 

message: Is it possible to express combiners in escaped html? Eg 0041+0308 --207.109.251.117 03:43, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: of course, why wouldn't it be? Plugwash 00:25, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Combiners 

message: On the page it says:
"Internet Explorer is capable of displaying the full range of Unicode characters, but can't automatically make the necessary font choice. Web page authors must guess which appropriate fonts might be present on users' systems, and manually specify them for each block of text with a different language or Unicode range. A user may have another font installed which would display some characters, but if the web page author hasn't specified it, then Explorer will fail to display them, and show placeholder squares instead."
What is the proper font choice and how would you change it? (I have Internet Explorer and access lots of the math pages on Wikipedia and see lots of "placeholder squares".)--SurrealWarrior 01:33, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internet Explorer 

message: Is there any difference in browser support for, e.g.,
# Character X represented as a named/numeric entity (mdash, #8211)versus
# Character X as an actual utf-8 character, in a utf-8 encoded HTML document, properly served?
::Not with any modern browser afaict but i think NS4 may have some strange behaviours regarding this. Most of the remaining problems with browser unicode support have to do with font selection and rendering complex text. Plugwash 17:44, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Browser support - entities or no entities? 

message: It looks like unicode (UTF-8) is about 50% of the web in 2010 (Source: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_7ZYqYi4xigk/S2Hcx0fITQI/AAAAAAAAFmM/ifZX2Wmv40A/s1600-h/unicode.png and http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2010/01/unicode-nearing-50-of-web.html )  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.99.17.74 (talk) 20:30, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: 60% and 80% with ASCII in 2012  http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/unicode-over-60-percent-of-web.htmlhttp://googleblog.blogspot.com/2012/02/unicode-over-60-percent-of-web.html   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.69.108.41 (talk) 23:53, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  unicode (UTF-8): about 50% of the web in 2010