Talk:Sport in Australia

message: Activity             	Population Estimate (millions)	Percent of population
Walking              	8.4                           	42.6%
Fitness/Gym          	6.31                          	32.1%
Running and Athletics	3.11                          	15.8%
Swimming             	2.85                          	14.5%
Cycling              	2.3                           	11.7%
Soccer               	1.14                          	11.7%
Bush Walking         	1.05                          	5.4%
Golf                 	1.02                          	5.2%
Tennis               	0.94                          	4.8%
Yoga                 	0.86                          	4.4%
Also, there should not be any copyright concerns. Similar lists taken from Ausplay have been published by online news sites.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siento (talk • contribs) 11:39, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adults taken part in last year 

message: This has been taken to dispute [].  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siento (talk • contribs) 13:14, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dispute 

message: ===== Adults taken part in last year =====
Activity             	Population  (millions)	Percent of  population
Walking              	8.4                   	42.6%
Fitness/Gym          	6.31                  	32.1%
Running and Athletics	3.11                  	15.8%
Swimming             	2.85                  	14.5%
Cycling              	2.3                   	11.7%
Soccer               	1.14                  	11.7%
Bush Walking         	1.05                  	5.4%
Golf                 	1.02                  	5.2%
Tennis               	0.94                  	4.8%
Yoga                 	0.86                  	4.4%
===== Adults through organisation / venue in the last year =====
Activity             	Population  (millions)	Percent of  Population
Fitness/Gym          	5.05                  	25.6%
Swimming             	1.6                   	8.1%
Golf                 	0.89                  	4.5%
Soccer               	0.83                  	4.2%
Yoga                 	0.65                  	3.3%
Tennis               	0.61                  	3.1%
Netball              	0.58                  	3.0%
Running and athletics	0.54                  	2.7%
Cricket              	0.46                  	2.3%
Basketball           	0.46                  	2.3%
===== Children organised out of school in the last year =====
Activity             	Population  (millions)	Percent of  population
Swimming             	1.38                  	30.0%
Soccer               	0.67                  	14.7%
Australian Football  	0.37                  	7.4%
Gymnastics           	0.34                  	7.2%
Netball              	0.33                  	7.2%
Dancing              	0.3                   	7.2%
Basketball           	0.3                   	6.5%
Tennis               	0.28                  	6.1%
Cricket              	0.26                  	5.6%
Running and athletics	0.2                   	4.4%
The data is from the Ausplay Survey which is a survey funded and led by the Australian Sports Commission. 
There should not be any copyright concerns. Similar lists taken from Ausplay have been published by online news sites.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siento (talk • contribs) 11:39, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: The Tables

message: Activity             	Population  (millions)	Percent of  population
Swimming             	1.38                  	30.0%
Soccer               	0.67                  	14.7%
Australian Football  	0.37                  	7.4%
Gymnastics           	0.34                  	7.2%
Netball              	0.33                  	7.2%
Dancing              	0.3                   	7.2%
Basketball           	0.3                   	6.5%
Tennis               	0.28                  	6.1%
Cricket              	0.26                  	5.6%
Running and athletics	0.2                   	4.4%
The data is from the Ausplay Survey which is a survey funded and led by the Australian Sports Commission. 
There should not be any copyright concerns. Similar lists taken from Ausplay have been published by online news sites.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Siento (talk • contribs) 11:39, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Children organised out of school in the last year 

message: Please !vote ‘’’Yes’’’ or ‘’’Include’’’ to  include the tables.  Please !vote ‘’’No’’’ or ‘’’Exclude’’’ to exclude the tables.  A brief supporting statement is requested.  Please do not reply to other statements or provide lengthy discussion.  Do that in the Discussion section
*No Far too much precision is implied by the numbers in the tables, suggesting an accuracy that cannot possibly exist. The activities obviously require clearer definition too. Using the very first entry as an example, what on earth does "Walking" mean? Does 57.4% of the population never walk? Don't say readers can follow links. They should not need to, and most never will anyway. The figures are therefore going to be very misleading. This is not the only problem, but the lead sentence here says "brief". HiLo48 (talk) 03:40, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Such surveys are inherantly inaccurate, see BMC Public Health (2018; 18: 895) Non-response bias in estimates of prevalence of club-based sport participation from an Australian national physical activity, recreation and sport survey  (a previous similar survey)  (my emphasis). - Nick Thorne talk 11:55, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: :::::::The second table has the heading "Adults through organisation / venue in the last year". What on earth does that mean? Does this mean how many people Cricket Australia claims play cricket? Similar for the other sports. If so, that's completely unreliable. HiLo48 (talk) 07:21, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, this is easy to work out for anyone interested. From the survey that has been repeatedly linked have a look at page 4. See the question: "In the last 12 months, did you do any of this through an organisation – like a club or a gym; or at a venue – like a pool or an oval?" which is summarised as I did in the table. This information can easily precede the tables. This is easy to suggest. Siento (talk) 07:54, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: As well as at least that much explanation, you definitely need a better heading. No reader, no matter how interested, should have to work out what our content means. Can you not see that there is a reason I and others have been asking so many questions here? Readers must never be forced to do their own investigation to find out what any of our content means. HiLo48 (talk) 07:59, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you see that when questions are answered and new questions are raised it seems that there is a double standard here compared to the material already in the article? Given that you have repeatedly removed information from the article the questions becomes why do you apply one standard to this new content and a different one to the participation data already in the article? You object to walking in the table and yet haven't cared about walking in the article despite editing it repeatedly over the years during which it has contained walking.  Siento (talk) 10:26, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: This post is entirely off topic.  All you are talking about here is other editors, you should be talking about content, in particular the RFC question.  If you don't have any response to the substantive questions about the content relating to the RFC that's fine, just don't keep trying to make this about other editors. - Nick Thorne talk 13:28, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes Siento. You framed the RFC. Please stick to the topic YOU chose, and avoid personal attacks. HiLo48 (talk) 22:30, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Arbitrary break

message: Can someone confirm that for me? Is Australian rules football less popular? T3h 1337 b0y 04:31, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: "Popular" is an ambiguous word. Popularity can be measured by number(s) of active participants, or attendance at competitions, or TV viewership, or in many other ways. The one significant difference between cricket and Australian rules football is that the former is equally popular all over the country, while the latter is only very popular among around half the population on a geographic basis. See Barassi line. Note too that cricket is a summer sport, and Australian football is a winter sport. HiLo48 (talk) 04:39, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is cricket the most popular sport in Australia?