Talk:Flag of Ulster

message: Perhaps the redirect should go here to prevent another Lapsed Pacifist edit war:
(Flag of Ulster).
It is important that the redirect goes here because:
1. The background the the 9-county flag is described on detail on this page.
2. The Northern Ireland flag is also known as the flag of ulster or ulster flag.
3. the ni flag is derived from the 9 county ulster one, and it is important that both these flags are discussed on the same page for this reason.
Jonto 23:50, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect

message: Ui Neill is clearly plural, yet the version of the legend given here applies the name to one man.  What gives?  —Tamfang 04:55, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: An error, and if you fancy fixing it then it's probably worth mentioning that the earler flag, the "king of Ulster's own emblem" as Geoffrey Keating says, was "A yellow lion upon green satin,/ The emblem of the Craobh Ruadh,/ Such as was held by noble Conchubhar/ Conghal now holds." Angus McLellan  (Talk) 08:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Unfortunately I cannot find the correct name of the hand's owner.  —Tamfang 16:35, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ui? 

message: I've always seen Or a cross gules attributed to de Burgh; a quick look at Rietstap's Armorial shows no Courcy arms with a cross.  —Tamfang 16:41, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Courcy 

message: I have changed the image of the Ulster Flag to the correct Ulster Flag. The thumb on the previous one was wrong.Seamus2602 21:36, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag 

message: I know i am not a scholar - but surely you cant just insert words like 'tuatha' without explanation?
--Wideofthemark (talk) 00:55, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huh?? 

message: The O'Neill dynasts first styled themselves as "King of Ulster" in 1364, after the demise of the Burke earldom (in 1333) that followed the original kings. Before 1364 the O'Neills were Kings of Tír Eógain, and in fact had the largest kingdom in Ulster for centuries. The first documented link between them and the red hand was on the arms of Conn O'Neill, 1st Earl of Tyrone, who died in 1559. So this in the lede needs changing a bit:
The Red Hand of Ulster is a symbol derived from the O'Neill dynasty who were historic monarchs of the provincial kingdom, while the gold background featuring a red cross comes from the coat of arms of the Burkes, a Hiberno-Norman noble family.86.42.198.63 (talk) 16:25, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: O'Neills and the red hand

message: Id like to put forth this new version of the ulster flag as it more closely matches the colours of burke arms and the red hand shown is a closer match to the oldest one found in national library of ireland which shows the design according to records
Caomhan27 (talk) 15:00, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Update for Consideration

message: This Irish Times article contains no information about what the "flag of Ulster" mentioned in it looks like. There is no description, photo or video of it.  is an unreferenced assumption, and a false one. I have see the flag of Ulster flown many times, the idea that the "flag of Ulster" in the Irish Times article must refer to the Ulster Banner is an assumption, not a fact. Please provide a reference that clearly and unambiguously says "the Ulster Banner has also been referred to as the flag of Ulster", or I will be removing the sentence again. FDW777 (talk) 11:27, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inappropriately referenced sentence 

message: I have added a template to the "20th century" section. Issues with this section are as follows.
# is referenced by this reference. What the reference says is , so there is nothing about The Troubles or the flag being used as a contrast.
# is referenced by this reference. What the reference says is  "As a result" and "to distinguish it" is where the synthesis is introduced, since there is nothing in the reference about why that name is used.
# is referenced by the following references.
:*Irish Times, dismissed in the section above.
:*11 Freunde uses the phrase Red Flag of Ulster, without explaining why it's called that
:* This is an incomplete citation, please provide full information so it can be verified. My investigation led me to this index page for volume 352 of Hansard. Looking down the page a link to column 24 is provided for "Flags" in the "Northern Ireland" section which would appear to be the right place. The page linked to doesn't contain any information on flags, but clicking "Next section" at the bottom of the page take you to this page which deals the flying of the Union Flag in Northern Ireland, which is presumably the discussion mentioned on the index page. There is no mention of the Ulster Flag, and there seems to be no mention of the Ulster Flag and the number 352 on the website according to google. Providing a full citation may prove my investigation to be in some way faulty.
:*Belfast Telegraph does reference the Ulster Banner being called the Ulster Flag. Hoever, like the other references, it doesn't explain why it's called that.
The synthesis is due to the cause/effect constructions of ,  and . Neither the references for point 2 nor the references point 3 say why the "9 Counties Flag" was called that. FDW777 (talk) 10:04, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synthesis template added 

message: :
This paragraph was recently inserted by a Person of No Account, complete with bracketed numbers.  Does anyone recognize a source?  Should it be paraphrased and kept? —Tamfang (talk) 00:32, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  copyvio?