Talk:Venice, Los Angeles

message: The US Postal Service recognizes Venice as not being part of Los Angeles. Annexation occurred in the early 1930s and 
not 1904. The Venice secession movement is Los Angeles' oldest and prior to the Valley secession campaign it was
the most well known. - A Venetian
:I agree; I live here and drive, too - and the only place in Venice I ever see congestion is Route 1/Lincoln, and that traffic has little to do with Venice itself.  This should be changed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.168.51.139 (talk) 19:50, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Talk

message: Is this organization notable enough to warrant a mention in the Venice, Los Angeles article?  Even though it's a non-profit, its inclusion here seems a bit like an advertisement to me.  Norvy 13:03, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed.  Norvy 18:43, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Women in Recovery

message: Used fundrace.org to find other famous names in Venice. Fitch 21:11, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homes based on Political Contributions 

message: Seems to me that the section about the LA county lifeguards should be on its own page, since much of the information there isn't
specifically about venice.. Venicebeach 21:13, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's grown to the point that it's ready to be on it's own. I recommend Los Angeles County Fire Department Lifeguard Division, a ponderous but accurate title. Go for it. Cheers, -Willmcw 22:06, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: lifeguards

message: How 'bout a section in Attractions and neighborhoods about the canals, that's a big attraction. 'cept all I could say is, "Built by Abbott Kinney… uhhh…" —Fitch 00:09, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attractions and neighborhoods needs canals 

message: I added the Venice Forum, and online resource for news about Venice. I deleted the section about Oakwood "resisting" gentrification. It has not. I can walk down the street and see half the houses are either for sale or being torn down to make way for mini-mansions. In addition, the organizations listed in that section either have absolutely nothing to do with gentrification (one is made up of boardwalk performers), is non-existant, or the description violates Wikipedia's ideal of neutrality.
:That section was referenced with 3rd-party sources. Sources trump personal experience. Please stop deleting it. Also, forums aren't considered suitable links. Please stop adding it.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 20:30, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding Venice Forum, deleting Oakwood "resisting" gentrification. 

message: I removed reference to Frank Gehry's plan to build his personal residence in Venice. It was announced in the L.A. Times on March 1, 2009 that he "abandoned plans to build a house for himself and his family on three contiguous lots in Venice." Gehry has resided in a bungalow on 22nd Street in Santa Monica since the late 1970's.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by M23 (talk • contribs) 08:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable residents and businesses 

message: Where did this information on Walter Thompson and early Venice "locals" come from?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.246.76.188 (talk) 03:31, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed April 10, 2009 entry. Bogus.Emargie (talk) 06:41, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Walter Thompson  

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message: Would anyone mind if we split the lengthy "Venice in the media" material into a standalone article? My main concern is that it's all unsourced.    Will Beback  talk   10:42, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm ready to split it.  There seems to be no strong objection.  You want to do the honors or should I?— alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 03:34, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Go for it.   Will Beback  talk   04:57, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been thinking about it, though, and it seems as if it might be better to just delete all the unsourced stuff per WP:POPCULTURE, except for the few films that actually satisfy it, like the Chaplin ones, which can be sourced.  I don't actually fancy the idea of creating a list article with absolutely no sources, and I'm not much in the mood to find sources for most of the crap on the list now.  So if there's no objection here in a few days, I'll just start deleting stuff from here, and anyone who thinks we need a list with what's taken out can make a new article using the article history. The books I think should be split into a further reading section and trimmed down too.  I'm going to go ahead and do that now.— alf.laylah.wa.laylah (talk) 05:02, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Venice in the media

message: There's probably nothing to be done about it, but the Times article that says that Abbott Kinney Blvd was "part of Washington Blvd" is wrong.  It was formerly West Washington Blvd, which was a different street altogether from Washington Blvd.  Just thought I'd note it here.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 18:42, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error in LAT source that Eames material is cited to 

message: Venice was never part of Santa Monica, was it? I removed such a claim at https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Venice,_Los_Angeles&diff=next&oldid=605235049. GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:19, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems quite complicated to sort out.  First, the source that it was formerly cited to, , actually says explicitly that Venice was part of Santa Monica.  However, I can't find anything in the LAT about this supposed 1911 election, and in fact there's an article from 1911 that discusses a proposal to merge Ocean Park and Santa Monica into a single municipality.  That's here:  This states explicitly that Ocean Park was a separate municipality from Santa Monica at that time, and it's clear from a zillion sources that Venice was officially known as Ocean Park at the time.  In fact they explicitly changed the name to Venice in May 1911.  Perhaps this is the election Elayne Alexander is thinking of?  That's here: .   On the other hand, in 1904 Ocean Park was trying to annex parts of Santa Monica, see here:   This article makes it seem extremely unlikely that Ocean Park/Venice was part of Santa Monica at that time because the part they were trying to annex was between Navy and Marine streets, and that area is presently part of Santa Monica.  On the other other hand, this:  says explicitly that by 1904 there had been three distinct areas called "Ocean Park," one of which, by 1904, was part of Santa Monica, and Kinney's, different from that one, would be the fourth.  My guess therefore is that Elayne Alexander got confused about which Ocean Park was which and also about whatever happened in 1911.  I can't prove it, though.  And I don't have the heart to dig through any more of these old articles because no matter what kind of search terms I try I invariably end up with 95% society notes about cotillions and such-like.  Sigh...— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 19:31, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relation to Santa Monica 

message: I was unable to find the original reference source for the faces. The closest I could come was a mention or an original source published in the January 2nd, 1975 edition of The Argonaut, in an article titled “The face on Windward Avenue" by Tom Moran.
If anyone is able to locate this article, and add it to the references, that would be most appreciated! — Safety Cap (talk) 18:43, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for Kinney and Bouck column faces 

message: Kinney made his fortune in selling tobacco, as explained in his article. He wasn't a developer until he already had a bunch of money. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 21:04, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tobacco millionaire 

message: With the creation of Venice Art Walls, we might want to trim the Venice,_Los_Angeles#Venice_Public_Art_Walls section. ---Another Believer (Talk) 20:12, 21 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Venice Art Walls