Talk:Joseph E. Vogler

message: I've corrected the date of death for Joe Vogler, which originally stated "October 1994." My wife and I learned in the spring of that year, and the first copy I ever saw of the Fairbanks Daily News-Miner had Manfried West's capture plastered on the front page, including his confession (IIRC) during the initial standoff that he had killed Vogler. It took some time after that before Vogler's body was found, and come to think of it that probably was in October 1994. I attended the memorial service for Vogler at the Sacred Heart Cathedral in Fairbanks (right around the corner from where I lived at the time).
My memory for the details in the Vogler case is sketchy after all these years. I seem to recall that West was having trouble remembering where he'd hid the body, which would be why it took so long to find it. He claimed self-defense but I believe was ultimately convicted of murder. 24.178.126.182 21:17, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
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message: There isn't one mention of Palin in this article, outside of a footnote. Incredible. Meanwhile the Bill Ayers Wikipedia article has extensive text detailing Obama's (supposed) ties to Ayers (and there's even more detailed info in the separate Wiki article on this). If Ayers is a "terrorist," then clearly Vogler was a terrorist, as well. And if Wikipedia can extensively and thoroughly document Obama's ties to Ayers, then why can't we have at least SOME details about the Palins' extensive ties to Vogler's party?
: You're quite a hump, aren't you?  What did Vogler blow up?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.171.176.201 (talk) 22:07, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Vogler was well-known for a long series of essentially "Mexican standoffs", which weren't very focused on being nice.  Hopefully, if you're reading this, you should be familiar enough with Vogler to where you already know that.  However, if the aim of this continuing thread is to demonstrate that people are STILL trying to dig up a connection to Sarah Palin, I have but one simple question: WHY???  There is plenty still which can be written about Joe Vogler without including gratuitous references to modern-day media celebrities.  Why don't you spend your time on that instead?  That two-by-four you're using looks very worn out after such extensive physical contact with the dead horse in question.RadioKAOS (talk) 03:14, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
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