Talk:Halo 3/Archive 7

message: Leaks have been out and some people will try to edit that showing this. i suggest this gets a lock or semi-lock, because it hasnt been proved yet that the ending is true.
:Hasn't been proved? It's using the Halo 3 engine with the same voice actors. I highly doubt they could fake that. 72.198.222.230 12:25, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could be an intentional leak. Remember when the producers of 24 leaked a video of the end of Season 2, which was the same. Except Palmer stands up, smiles and waves, saying 'I'm fine'. 79.67.47.29 14:59, 20 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually, that's been changed.  Only Microsoft employees found playing it will be banned.  Regular gamers won't be banned for playing Halo 3 on Live early.  Useight 15:12, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lock Maybe?

message: Video of the ending has been leaked; how should the article address that? 72.198.222.230 12:01, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Other articles on Wikipedia talk about leaks (music mostly), this is no different.--WhereAmI 01:17, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Currently all we have to go by is leaked footage which is not considered a reliable source. When the game comes out we can confirm if the leaked footage is indeed the ending. There could be a mention of the fact that there was a leak, but the content of the leak is unconfirmed. I personally agree with Inputdata that it would ruin it, so I'm not going to watch the video/s. Once the game is released however there will be a "Plot" section which will spoil the ending for anyone who hasn't played it. James086Talk | Email 12:53, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Halo 3 Ending Leak 

message: http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/815/815041p1.html
wow, there is so much info we can add on this article. Duff man2007 21:12, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NEW HALO 3 BLOW OUT ON IGN.COM!!!  

message: For the weapons, maps, equipment, etc., you guys should start listing the confirmed ones and put them in a list instead of the little article that only summerizes a couple of tidbits of information. It's only a month away from Sept. 25 and Bungie and alot of other websites (IGN, 1up, etc.) have confirmed a bunch of other stuff. We should start a list soon.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.113.218 (talk) 22:07, August 24, 2007 (UTC) 
:Wikipedia is not a list. We already had that, but it was eliminated because it was unencyclopedic. Peptuck 05:01, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And it was huge. the olde "confirmed elements" section practically took over the whole article. And there are plenty of other sites that will list every weapon and vehicle and map etc. Wikipedia doesn't need to RC Master 13:08, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then link it, should not be a problem if you have external links to access that information, if not then you got a problem. Ripster40 01:57, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listing 

message: Please don't attack me for asking this (as I'm afraid Xbox fans will do) but what is the current possibility of a PC version being released or done? They have released a PC version for both the original and Halo 2, are they planning to do the same with Halo 3? Just wondering if anyone knew anything about it and therefore it could be added to the article. 72.49.194.69 07:52, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There hasn't been any word of a Halo 3 PC as far as I know, but as you said, The previous 2 had PC versions released later so it's likely there will be some day. There is no confirmation by Bungie or Microsoft though so it can't be added to the article. James086Talk | Email 08:51, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Again if the last 2 were released you can expect the same of this one. BUT, the first one wasn't released until just prior to xbox Halo 2 coming out, and Halo2 PC is just now coming out. I wouldn't just hold out for the PC version if I were you because it will be a while, and it'll be pretty outdated by then for PC standards.157.174.221.169 19:27, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Seems I'll have to wait for it on the PC, though. 72.49.194.69 20:23, 29 August 2007 (UTC)

text: It will be a few years before the PC version comes out. MS isn't that dumb since this is one of their biggest system sellers.157.174.221.169 19:28, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  PC Version 

message: This should be included when talking about the AI in the game. Keep in mind that EGM only does console stuff though.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.117.224.11 (talk) 01:49, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  in EGM's latest issue, they gave Halo's AI the "best AI" on the showroom floor 

message: What does 'gone gold' actually mean in terms of video games?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.113.218 (talk) 16:05, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Gone gold generally means that it it is certidied Golden master, e.g. it's ready for production then shipment. Gold is he last thing a game is certified before it is released to the people that make all those DVDs, who then pass it on to the store lines and such. The Walkin Dude 17:21, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a note to clarify, "gone gold" has nothing to do with sales numbers like it does in the music industry. The master copies of optical discs were traditionally (and sometimes still are) gold colored due to the material they were made from and with no real marketing purpose.157.174.221.168 20:43, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gold 

message: Today there is supposed to be an update but when i went to the website, it was still locked and the date said 9/03/07. Anyone know what time they unlock those?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.113.218 (talk) 14:02, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Check again. It's there now.--Roeas 00:35, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  1up's daily coverage 

message: hey can you guys put the prices of the halo 3 game version in Canadian too. If you do thanks. :)68.145.77.173 23:14, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canadian Money 

message: I removed the text "The legendary edition is currently only available in North America and Brazil." because it's unsourced and not true. Why Brazil & not UK? Besides, I live in Australia and have pre-ordered the Legendary without any problems. If there's a source listing the places that the Legendary Edition is available, by all means add the info, but make sure it's reliable. James086Talk | Email 23:33, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legendary only available in ... 

message: In the box in the top right corner of the page, where it says which Game Engine is used, shouldn't the Havok Engine be listed as well as the Halo Engine, since Havok is used for physics calculation?--Roeas 00:36, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure, on some articles it states the game engine they use, including all the various physics engines, on others it doesn't. I don't see why you can't put it there.The Lord Of The Crayons 00:57, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Havok Engine 

message: There missing a difference between the editions. Both the Limited and the Legendary editions come with an "HD Calibration Disk". This was briefly noted on the bungie website. This is a Halo 3 themed disk that will help to Calibrate your HDTV to get the best picture.
69.158.17.235 01:52, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I could be wrong, but I beleive it is available to everyone with an Xbox Live Silver or Gold membership now. Do some research into it if you want, I'm sure the Bungie forum will be glad to help once they stop posting "phail". Sorry for the rant, but that forum is one of the most immature I've ever been in.--TyGuy92 02:07, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, that tool is on the "Interactive Xbox 360 Disc." So is with the limited and legendary versions. RC Master 12:49, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well regardless as to whether its on xbox live, it should be mentioned if it also comes on the disc. Since only like 50% (i think it was) of xbox owners are on live, it would be good info for them. Also, 4chans boards are by far and away more immature than Bungies.157.174.221.168 20:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Different Editions Omission 

message: it should be noted under the weapons section that the covenant needler can no longer be dual wielded due to a significant power increase.
:Okay, go ahead and make the change.  You don't need permission to add info to the entry, that's your right.  If formatting of grammar is not right, someone will make the change for you until you learn.--TyGuy92 02:30, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, by all means make the edit. But, we don't want to be "game guidey" describing all the changes to every single weapon in the game. The overall statement "with minor power and cosmetic changes" is fine I believe. The needler is still the needler and just has different power. RC Master 12:53, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  addition to weapons section 

message: Hi, I wanted to add a link to a list of the Xbox 360 Achievements for Halo 3 in the External Links section on the Halo 3 page, but the page is protected. I was going to add this link: *A list of Xbox 360 Achievements for Halo 3. Can someone help me with this? --UaneReade 14:06, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia generally frowns on Lists and info that is considered fancruft or game-guide like material instead of the type of stuff you'd find in an encyclopedia.(I always forget to sign)157.174.221.168 14:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Xbox 360 Achievements

message: For the 2 beta pictures, can you at least mention it's from the beta, you did good on the other picture mentiong it's a work in progress, you might as well mention that the beta pics are from the beta, now seeing that was like 6 months ago.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.203.115 (talk) 02:29, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't really matter, does it?--$UIT 02:33, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

text: If you feel so strongly about it, you can add it in yourself--$UIT 19:00, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: Will their be any multiplayer maps from Halo 1 or Halo 2 that will be in Halo 3 other than Last Resort (Zanzibar)?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.188.113.218 (talk) 23:35, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The game isn't out yet, so who knows. Also, the talk page is to discuss the article, not the game itself--$UIT 01:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed with above. If you can phrase it in a way that is more encyclopedic and not so game-forum-esque, it could be added. Oh and to answer your question, Lockout has also been remade with a jungle theme and can be seen in the videos from PAX.157.174.221.168 14:40, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old Maps 

message: I would rv the current verison myself but I'm an IP. I can't belvie no one noticed this.--71.170.106.104 02:41, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RV please  

message: Duff man2007 02:43, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  in EGM's latest issue, they gave Halo's AI the "best AI" on the showroom floor 

message: idk if anyone noticed this, but there's a lot of confusion abt these 2 ebay auctions, u can check the halo.bungie.org site to find out the details, but i'm surprisd no1 posted about it yet.after checking it out, wat do u ppl think, real or not?[]  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Discopete117 (talk • contribs) 21:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Auctions 

message: Refering to the three revert rule, please use this discussion to determine the fate of the eBay leak portion of the article, rather than remove and re-add the content repeatedly.  Useight 03:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it can be reworded, as you said above--$UIT 03:42, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So... I removed it, per WP:NOT#NEWS. And it will continue to be removed, this is not a news service nor is a forum to announce cruft like this. SpigotMap 04:07, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Only if said leak can be classified as a reliable source.--Yeti Hunter 04:14, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks for not writing civily. Please READ the wikilinks we have provided and you will see why it will not be included until it is confirmed and reported by a reliable source. SpigotMap 04:18, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Confirmation of being on Ebay and being actually leaked are two different things. Its very possible that there is no actual game to sell and the user is only taking peoples money. Until it has been CONFIRMED that it is a real copy of Halo 3, it has no place. Even then it is debateable as simply being fancruft. Please follow Wiki guidelines. Lastly, just because this data was added to other articles does not mean it should have so that is not a valid argument either. Its like thinking you can get out of a speeding ticket by telling the cop that people speed all the time. Oh, and try to be more civil Duffman.157.174.221.169 19:29, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Might be notable to note that 1) this does not deserve to be before all other sections of the article; 2) unless you provide a specific credible source, such information should not be added to Wikipedia; and 3) as according to the comment posted in the article, please do not repeatedly insert your snippet over and over again, until this is issue is resolved on the talk page. Stryik 04:20, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: User was blocked for 24 hours for violating the 19RR rule! AKRadeckiSpeaketh 05:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 3RR

message: Full retail PAL version of the game leaked.
Right here, IGN.COM - http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/819/819245p1.html
If you argue with the notablitiy of IGN.com you are tremendiously  un-informed Duff man2007 04:26, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As Spigot has kindly noted, this still possibly falls under WP:NOT#NEWS, and thus would be unfit to add to this article; that notwithstanding, there is again no reason as to why something as questionable as this should be at the FOREFRONT OF THE ENTIRE ARTICLE. Stryik 04:34, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Most albums/games with leaks are confirmed to be leaked. This hasn't even been confirmed yet and possibly a hoax. SpigotMap 04:39, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text: IGN gets hoaxes, too. Try to stay civil, why don't you--$UIT 04:46, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, that's exactly what it is. We don't believe you. Have you not read one single wikilink we provided? There's no point in arguing or trying to explain to you anymore. We'll just have to wait for a block for the death threats, vandalism, and general incivility from you. SpigotMap 04:56, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text: See my comments two sections up: is this being reported by the major mainstream media? Is CNN whipped into a frenzy by this? Please actually read our polices on notability, reliable sources and verifiability...this isn't notable as we define notabiity. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 15:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Well technically unless the disc was stolen, there are no rules against an idividual buyer reselling it. If these are genuine copies, I'm betting some store sold them early because an employee didn't know the difference. If so, the buyer purchased them legally and can do with them what they please providing it doesn't break copywright law. Reselling it on Ebay is perfectly legal. However, I'll say again, until it is confirmed that it is a real copy and not just a scam or something, it is just speculation and should not be added.157.174.221.167 18:01, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aussie Halo 3 hits eBay