Talk:Numidia

message: (note that this claim is not widely accepted among archeologists)
i know that every who say anything about the berber is claiming . but do it in the article .okke ?.Aziri 14:51, 13 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Claim

message: Currently, the article says this:
"The Numidians were conceived of as two great tribal groups: the Massyli in eastern Numidia, and the Massaesyli in the west. At the time of the Second Punic War the eastern tribes took the side of the Romans, whereas the Massaesyli supported the Carthaginians. At the end of the war the victorious Romans gave all of Numidia to Massinissa (died 148 BC) of the Massaesyli, whose territory extended from Mauretania to the boundary of the Carthaginian territory, and also southeast as far as Cyrenaica, so that Numidia entirely surrounded Carthage (Appian, Punica, 106) except towards the sea."
This is what I got from the above quotes:
Eastern tribes=Massyli=Roman supporters=victors
Western tribes=Massaesyli=Carthaginian supporters=losers
So how does it make any sense that the Romans gave the Massaesyli Numidia when the Romans won, if the Massaesyli were the supporters of the enemy who lost?  This needs clarification or correction.  Drenched 04:59, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: the romans didn't give anything, the annexed territories are rightful claims of Massylia that were taken over by Massinissa after the Battle of Zama against Hannibal. the romans were happy to reduce the territory controlled by carthage and did not protest a Numidian expansion in that direction Libernius (talk) 08:03, 12 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  contradiction? 

message: Anyone? The two are unrelated.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zelphi (talk • contribs) 14:46, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does Numidium redirect here?

message: "Numidia diriged by Syphax"
this "diriged" is not a word, i suspect the author meant divided, but i'm not sure. please get this fixed asap, looks pretty silly
188.220.151.59 (talk) user teknotiss, couldn't be bothered to sign in
Your Correct He ment Divided. go ahead and make the change to that word. you have a eagle i and spoted a notable diffrence. 76.244.145.11 (talk) 18:43, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  intro paragraph has a made up word in it. 

message: couple of typos showing in search for articles misspelling as Numedia... In ictu oculi (talk) 02:44, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Numedia

message: I haven't figured out how to edit the citation needed but have the citation for the last sentence in the War With Rome section. Livy's Periochae 66-70, in Book 67.4 "During the triumph of Gaius Marius, Jugurtha walked in front of the chariot with his two sons, and was killed in the jail." 
Here's the link: http://www.livius.org/li-ln/livy/periochae/periochae066.html
Sallust doesn't actually come out and say in his history of the War with Jugurtha that Jugurtha was killed, just that he was captured. John C. Rolfe, the translator of the Loeb edition includes footnote 161, at the end saying, "Jugurtha was taken to Rome, where, after being led with his two sons before Marius's chariot in the triumphal procession, he was starved to death, or, according to some, strangled, in the Tullianum." Sadly he does not include a source for the starvation.  
In the version is available here: http://penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Roman/Texts/Sallust/home.html
So if anyone reads this, if I can figure out how to change it I will, but I believe Livy's account should satisfy the citation needed. Jwt708 (talk) 17:38, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  War With Rome Citation Needed 

message: As I mentionned in the text the famous historian specialized in berber history favors a native origin of the name, here is the paragraph in french, and I won't translate it because it is not a problem of evidence, there is just an idiot who is removing my edits:
Les Numides ont, en outre, été victimes d'un calembour, forme d'explication philologique très prisée des Anciens : alors que leur nom est certainement d'origine africaine comme le prouvent la persistance à l'époque romaine de tribus portant encore ce nom 2 et l'existence, dans la Mauritanie actuelle, de la population des Nemadi, les auteurs grecs confondirent l'ethnique africain et leur adjectif υομαδες. De cette fausse étymologie naquit l'affirmation légendaire qui devient un véritable cliché littéraire, que les Numides n'étaient que des Nomades, populations errantes sans agriculture, ni villes, ni lois.
for the idiot Kintetsubuffalo , who is removing all my edits, I've already asked for a moderator.
Stylequick (talk) 15:06, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: the Louvre.
Amyntas in 26, Cilicia was given to King Tarcondimotus. When Augustus added Juba II’s kingdom of Numidia to the province of Africa in 25, he gave Juba Mauretania (Morocco) to rule instead. In Armenia, on the
Aspects of Roman History 82BC-AD14: A Source-based Approach
By Mark Everson Davies, Hilary Swain
Encyclopedia of African History 3-Volume Set - Page 251
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Mauritania then, too, became involved in the civil wars of Rome, and the kingdom was annexed to Rome by Caesar Octavian in 33BCE and then reformulated as a client-kingdom in 25BCE with Juba II of Numidia as king. Juba, son of an ...
education in Italy. Octavian, the future emperor Augustus, befriended Juba when he was a young man and in 29 ».c. made him ruler of his father's former kingdom of Numidia, which had become a Roman province after the death of Juba I in 46
Herods Contemporaries In Britain And The West
J Creighton - Herod and Augustus, 2008 - booksandjournals.brillonline.com
… BCE the king of Mauretania died and for a few years this part of Africa was ruled directly by Rome,
however in 25 BCE Augustus installed Juba II there as king, where he … Iconographically the coinage
marks a radical shift between Juba I in Numidia and Juba II in Mauretania …
New Masters for Africa
S Raven - Rome in Africa, 2012 - taylorfrancis.com
… True, King Bocchus of Mauretania was rewarded for his support in the Thapsus campaign by
being given the western part of Numidia; but after his death in 33 BC his kingdom was ruled
directly by the Romans, and then handed over in 25 BC to Juba II, the romanized …
The Roman Maghreb
K Amine, M Carlson - The Theatres of Morocco, Algeria and Tunisia, 2012 - Springer
… 10 The Pre-Colonial Maghreb citizen, highly cultivated in the arts and natural history. The Emperor
Augustus restored Juba II as king of Numidia between 29 BCE and 27 BCE and married him
off to Cleopatra Selene, daughter of Cleopatra and Mark Anthony …
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… of the largest cities of Roman North Africa. It also had a long and distinguished history, starting as a Punic colony; becoming a royal Numidian capital, perhaps from …
TW Potter - cambridge.org
… long and distinguished history, starting as a Punic colony; becoming a royal Numidian capital,
perhaps from the second century BC, and most notably under the client king, Juba II (25 BC … is
a fine theatre, built in Juba's reign; an unusual amphitheatre, perhaps Augustan in origin …
Doug Weller talk 13:54, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Juba II as King of Numidia 

message: The section "The Kingdom of Massinissa and the Third Punic War" could use a rewrite.  Within the single paragraph, several names are inconsistently spelled across sentences. Acwilson9 (talk) 00:18, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section: "The Kingdom of Massinissa and the Third Punic War" 

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message: Can someone clarify/explain what this first paragraph is trying to say?  I've read it three times I still can't figure out what it's trying to say. 24.56.228.140 (talk) 03:36, 26 March 2023 (UTC)
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