Talk:Mark Clattenburg

message: Hi, I can't change the article but there is a serious problem with it.
"In December 2009, Clattenburg took charge of a tie between Bolton Wanderers and Manchester City. City personnel alleged that at half-time, Clattenburg asked members of their bench: "How do you work with Craig Bellamy all week?" In the second half that followed,..."
The qualification "that followed" for second half is clearly redundant. The second half could not but follow. For good measure we are assured in the previous statement that the exchange took place exactly at half-time, so there is no room for uncertainty as to the order of events - "that followed" is a smear on an otherwise rational and parsimonious account of events and the article could only prosper by its deletion. Can someone please fix this, quick? Thanks!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.101.64.31 (talk) 14:04, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Article edit request

message: Hi. I appreciate that not all editors particularly like some of the persons whose biographies appear in Wikipedia. However, the mess that was the article Mark Clattenburg has now been reverted to remove all non-NPOV, nonsense and possible vandalism entries.
It's back on my watchlist. Refsworldlee(chew-fat)(eds) 22:41, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-NPOV, nonsense and possible vandalism

message: Hi. Apparently, Mark's post-war record of refereeing a Football League match at only 25 has recently gone, to someone aged 24 diff. I have therefore tidied up that part, as we don't really need chapter and verse about who took his record and when - suffice to say that he was "at one time" the post-war record-holder. I hope this is agreeable. Thanks. Refsworldlee(chew-fat)(eds) 00:20, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Post-war record gone

message: Hi. Following renewed interest in this article, I have started to address certain style and content problems as it stands. The "Milestones" section is not the correct way to impart the information, it could be accused of being a trivia section, when the content is far more important than that. Unless anyone else does in the meantime, I will be returning to convert most or all of the constituent parts of the section to a prose-style account of each occasion, as is more in keeping with a biographical article and not a set of statistics. Thanks. Ref (chew)(do) 15:50, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Ref (chew)(do) 21:31, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Overhaul

message: NY Times 90.241.220.98 22:34, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, it's a blog resource, and as such is not a valid reference. Please do not enter it into the article when the semi-protect is lifted, as it will be removed immediately. Thanks. Ref (chew)(do) 00:35, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: One more source

message: Why is Rooney's elbow on McCarthy not in the criticism section? Clattenburg made an appalling decision here, he only guessed at what happened and then acted instead of admitting he didn't see anything.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 175.38.229.199 (talk) 07:48, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wayne Rooney elbow 

message: There's a lot of unreferenced junk and suppositions in that section. A daily mail piece is used as a reference too (!). Why not just reduce it to a couple of lines indicating that Chelsea filed a complaint against him for inappropriate language? --Txuriurdin (talk) 21:09, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Its a highly-publicised ongoing issue and one that is unprecedented in English football, i.e. a top referee being formally accused by a club of racism towards its players. It deserves a few paragraphs, and I believe all of the content is cited. Hate the Mail or love it, it is a reliable source by WP standards. --TBM10 (talk) 23:15, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have attempted to improve this section, changing some language to make it more neutral, adding in a sentence about the nature of the final goal. I have also removed the last sentence about what Mikel shouting he was going to break his legs. Citing the Daily Mail just about acceptable at the best of times but this part lacks credibility, with no source named and it seemingly being based off of rumours and speculation. This allegation should only be restored if there is official confirmation. This section is already full of weasel words and posting unsubstantiated rumours will only make it worse. Abigsmurf (talk) 21:16, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be careful not to allow any article to show any undue weight to publicity seekers such as Peter Herbert. At the moment there is sufficient coverage in the article. Though if the matter ends at this point and he continues his career as before then the four paragraphs could possibly be condensed into one or two paragraphs.--EchetusXe 12:21, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Chelsea complaint

message: If this text has been removed for the reason, and I quote, "the complaint has ALREADY been dismissed by the FA with no investigation necessary", why are any of the other complaints bar the Chelsea one in there, considering none of them apparently were investigated?I don't ever recall a club officially accusing a referee of a claim like this before so publicly, and going as far as to try and prevent him from ever refereeing another game of their's until the matter is resolved. I think the fact it has been such a public claim. Putting the incident in a historical context, he has been accused of making unprofessional and unbiased comments in the past, towards Craig Bellamy while he played for Manchester City, and subsequently sent him off. On that occasion, the FA didn't investigate Clattenburg and it wasn't required for the PGMOB to come out and defend him.WP:NOTNEWS says routine news reporting on things like announcements, sports, or celebrities is not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia. While including information on recent developments is sometimes appropriate, breaking news should not be emphasized or otherwise treated differently from other information. I don't believe the text was emphasised or treated differently from other text in the section. RealDealBillMcNeal (talk) 21:41, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Southampton complaint

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I have found a dozen of incorrectly formatted dashes in the scores of articles. Each of them needs to be changed from "-" to "–" to match the ones already formatted correctly. 
The following have been found:-
Early career: 1-0 and 4-1 
Turning professional: 1-0, 4-3, 5-0 and 2-1
2010-12: 4-4 and 4-0
Chelsea complaint...language: 1-1
2013-15: 2-0 
2016: 5-3 and 2-1
Cheers, 86.179.207.75 (talk) 18:12, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done These have now been addressed. Thank you for taking the time to spot these errors.  Class455 (talk|stand clear of the doors!)  18:51, 15 May 2017 (UTC)

text: There's still one more scoreline that needs to be fixed: the 4-3 scoreline found in the "Turning professional" section. 86.152.141.119 (talk) 21:43, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done Gulumeemee (talk) 03:09, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 May 2017 

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