Talk:Pravda

message: I came to this site some thirty minutes ago to find a few pieces of readily accessible information. This process should have taken me perhaps five minutes tops. Now after half an hour I'm getting out. I essentially wasted 25 minutes trying to clean up this pathetic mess of hopeless articles written by imbeciles. I don't see as visitors to this site should have to do this all the time. I reckon the people in charge here are getting paid very well, thank you. They should concentrate on cleaning up their own articles and not waste everyone's resources with their petty pre-puberty internecine wars.
Adjusting articles after the fact is something all should do from time to time. But it is not and cannot be something which because of the appalling lack of quality of these articles dominates on a ratio of 5/1.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.221.88.129 (talk) 05:02, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Waste of Time

message: It looks crasy: "the leading newspaper of the Soviet Union" ... "was started in 1912 in Vienna, Austria" heh :)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.141.202.2 (talk) 19:28, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The place of origin

message: If someone could track down  or  it could be useful. Matthewmayer 23:02, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Finding some sources

message: This sentence is confusing (and ungrammatical): "Pravda was founded as a newspaper for workers in 1912, the Bolsheviks started legal publication of the newspaper in St. Petersburg on April 22, 1913."
:Was Pravda started in 1912 or 1913? - Maybe what was meant was that it was unofficially published in 1912, then first officially published in 1913?—Mateo SA 05:27, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Question about date of origin

message: The article needs a mention of the 1st Russian communist/socialist newspaper — Iskra (spark, Russian: Искра). It's a strange thing that the referenced article "The spark that lit the revolution" doesn't contain any references to Iskra as well.
BACbKA 08:40, 8 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  needs a mention of [[Iskra]] (spark) 

message: I think a section taking into account the "reading between the lines" aspect of the paper is necessary -- under such a heading could also be covered the usage of Pravda in the West to describe -- for instance -- Breitbart as the organ of the Trump administration; Fox News and other outlets have been used is similar contexts. In fact, my familiarity with Pravda came from such usage and I was disappointed to see the page lacking a section describing this aspect of Pravda -- I hear Breitbart referenced as "Pravda" frequently on the Chapo Trap House podcast and recall the Daily Show and other political comedy outlets referring to Fox News as "the Pravda of the Bush administration."  The page seems incomplete when a reader who's come across "Pravda" used as a stand-in for censorship/ bias can't visit the Wikipedia page and be informed that "Pravda" in such instances isn't a literal reference to the paper or the Soviet Union in particular, but a general (and often comedic) allusion to journalistic bias. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeletaylor (talk • contribs) 20:40, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Pravda as euphemism/ synonym for government censorship

message: :Image:Pravda-otsovruk-c.jpg is an image of Pravda from 1991 which does not have the Lenin medals next to the title.  :Image:KomsomolskayaPravdaRizospastis200509.jpg is an image of Komsomolskaya Pravda from 2005 which has the Lenin medals next to the title.  They are not the same newspaper.  The article claims that "The next editor-in-chief, Alexander Ilyin, handed Pravda's trademark — the Order of Lenin medals — and the new registration certificate over to the new owners".  What is going on?  I also remember reading a recent OSCE Magazine article showing Pravda with the Lenin medals.  – Kaihsu 13:02, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The 1991 image had copyright problems. I reverted it to 1953 one (quite some time ago). ←Humus sapiens ну? 10:29, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lenin medals 

message: The nuspaper was a target of numerous jokes. One of them is already in "Russian joke"
* A Georgian comes to see proctologist complaining about constipation. The doctor looks into his ass and says: "There is a newspaper stuck in your ass, genatsvale!" - "Pravda!?" (translation: "Is that so!?") - "No, Morning Tbilisi!" (to the question of toilet paper raised above)
*A worker about to be joining CPSU is asked a tricky question at partkom (Party committee): What do you prefer: "Pravda newspaper or Radio Liberty?" - "Of course Pravda!" - The partkom secretary, happy with the political consciousness of the candidate, decides to probe a bit further: "Why so?" - "Why, that's clear to everyone: you cannt wrap a herring (comment: the second main snack for vodka, beaten only by pickled cucumber) in a radio!"  `'mikka (t) 05:48, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pravda in jokes

message: I find it very strange that Wikipedia doesn't have an article about Pravda.ru, which is the main Internet newspaper of Russia today, having a circulation far exceeding the "Pravda of the Communist Party" newspaper (the subject of the main article here), which is a shadow of its former self. An article outlining the differences between the two newspapers can be found here. - Embram (talk) 14:02, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Pravda.ru

message: Pravda is the name of a bar...
Pravda is the name of a pub...
Pravda means truth in Russian, and any small boutique or cigarette kiosk can be named anything like that.
i can't say that "Al-Ahram" is the name of a street, many hotels, beer brand, and by the way pharaonic tombs just because it is the name of a newspaper in Egypt, ignoring the fact that it means pyramids! that lacks seriousness.
Khaled Khalil 09:51, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pravda in arts 

message: While doind disambiguation for Zvezda and looking for entries in wikipedia for Zvezda (magazine) and Zvezda (newspaper) I noticed that the articles Pravda,
History of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and Joseph Stalin tell quite different stories about Zvezda. Could someone Russian make order with this please? Mukadderat (talk) 03:19, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  zvezda 

message: as it was back in the USSR.  The article should reflect this.
http://www.politico.com/blogs/jonathanmartin/0808/And_wait_until_you_see_the_opinion_section.html
Pravda: war between Russia and Georgia orchestrated from the USA!
http://biglizards.net/blog/archives/2008/08/ap_levels_serio.html
http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives2/print/021207.php  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anonymousformysafety (talk • contribs) 23:08, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pravda is returning to the "good old days" 

message: thx 188.108.114.183 (talk) 14:56, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please fix the Link to CNN Cold War articles comparison 

message: To call it a "tabloid" is an understatement.
They have stories like:
Soviet Army fought UFOs
Jesus Christ born in Ukraine
: Not that controversial really. A priest named his son Jesus Christ --John Ericson (talk) 19:33, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, in their training programs that is. I think this is related to the Mars 500 program. --John Ericson (talk) 19:33, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

text: For those interested, the "fire and jelly-like creatures in the atmosphere" article can be found here. An interesting read to say the least. --Anonymous 20:00, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's up with pravda.ru? 

message: The page mentions:
The new Pravda newspaper and Pravda Online are not related in any way. The paper Pravda tends to analyze events from a leftist point of view, while the web-based tabloid-style newspaper often takes a nationalist and sensationalist approach.
In that case shouldn't Pravda Online be mentioned on its own page, instead of just being a redirect to this one? And if so also add it to the disambiguation page? Of course the "not related in any way" should perhaps be rephrased as the editors and many of the journalists came from the Pravda newspaper. --John Ericson (talk) 19:14, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't Pravda Online (pravda.ru) get its own page to avoid ambiguity? 

message: Recently Barkeep49 added Pravda (Slovakia) to  the disambiguation hatnote. I don't think it's necessary to single out that specific other thing named "Prava" beyond the disambiguation page link (I do see why Pravda.ru and Komsomolskaya Pravda, both of which are much more easily confused with the subject of this article, are mentioned separately). Thoughts? Huon (talk) 22:00, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have strong opinions on this (and am not following this page or discussion, so thanks for the ping!) but after being told about it I did some searching and it does appear that the Slovakian Pravada is of some importance (despite a really poor page). I added it given the two existing see alsos but would be fine with a more generic DAB listing. Best, Barkeep49 (talk) 22:43, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation hatnote 

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