Template talk:Decrease

message: I think the arrow looks like it means "decreasing" as opposed to a loss. It's confusing and I wouldn't use this. Shawnc 20:04, 23 September 2006 (UTC)

message: Please, add sl:Predloga:Upad. --12:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: done. CMummert · talk 18:52, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Interwikis

message: Unicode symbols are not accessible, as most of them are read by screen readers as a question mark (unrecognized). Even when they are, the textual alternative is quite generic, and does not always convey the meaning intended. For example, in this case it would be read as "down arrow" instead of "decrease".
The MoS guideline at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (accessibility)#Text says such symbols should be replaced by an icon with alt text. This guideline was established after the discussion at WT:ACCESS#Non standard ASCII, and consensus was reached to replace such symbols by an icon with alt text.
This change does not have any effect on the layout, or the rendering of the symbol, thus is believed to be consensual. I request to replace: ▼
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by: 

:File:Decrease2.svg is in public domain because it is ineligible for copyright (simple geometry), thus the image doesn't require attribution and it is acceptable to remove the link.
Thanks. Dodoïste (talk) 13:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 13:10, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! :-) Dodoïste (talk) 19:15, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replace unicode symbol by an icon with alt text 

message: I agree with Shawnc's comment (from 5 years ago).  Its purpose in infoboxes isn't clear, is it a loss, or is it a decrease from previous years?  It seems to be used instead of a negative sign, which is how a negative profit would normally be displayed. (e.g. on Lockheed Martin)
At the very least, is it possible to have a mouseover tip to say it represents a loss, rather than a decrease from previous years? 84.9.58.29 (talk) 23:03, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I too find it a confusing sign. So, the stock value is decreased - in relation to what? Its stock value from yesterday? Last month? Is this a realtime sign? In addition to the alt= text I'd like to have a small title= tag or even an url= to some stock market site where one can see why the symbols shows decrease. The same goes for Template:Increase of course. -- 194.246.123.103 (talk) 07:57, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If it is confusijg or unclear, we have to provide additional textual information in context. But using title or alt is not a solution, it's an open door to more problems. Maybe an url would help. Dodoïste (talk) 15:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

text: Its top surface is horizontal, the lower point of both diagonal sides is half-way along that horizontal but below it.  Most people would understand that it points downwards unless it renders differently in IE from the way it renders in Safari?  To me it's abundantly clear it points downwards.  The Rambling Man (talk) 20:51, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

text: For clarity, please also see :Template:Increase and :Template:Steady.  The Rambling Man (talk) 21:20, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: We could use a better icon, such as :File:RedDownArrow.svg. It would clearly indicate the decrease. I'm sure we can find a similar one for the increase template. Cheers, Dodoïste (talk) 15:55, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  confusing 

message: I created a sandboxed verion of the template with support for delta numbers as tooltips (to be specified in first unnamed parameter). I already implemented this in , and similar request is filed for  (see Unnamed parameter for delta). — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk•track) 12:59, 6 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: . Please update the documentation — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 19:11, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unnamed parameter for delta 

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Hello!
Is there a clever way to add hidden characters to the HTML code so that table cells using these templates sort correctly?
For example, clicking the sorting icons in the table on the right seems to order the values randomly.
Thanks, cmɢʟee୯ ͡° ̮د ͡° ੭ 20:43, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: See Help:Sorting#Sorting with increase/decrease/steady templates. You may also need to set data-sort-type="number" in the column header. Verbcatcher (talk) 16:23, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can table cells using {{increase}}/{{decrease}} be made sortable? 

message: (Copied from Template_talk:IncreaseNegative)
The documentation does not provide any clear guidance on when  () and  () should be used, as opposed to  () and  ().  The fact that all of the templates share the same documentation only adds to the confusion of which one to use when.
For example, some pages have used  and  in infoboxes to indicate changes in ranking when they really should use  and  instead — see Template:Infobox website:
Put  () OR  () OR  () BEFORE the ranking number to indicate the change of ranking compared with the previous month.
PrimeHunter mentioned a good example when  and  would be appropriate, where an increase is a bad thing (indicated by red):
List of motor vehicle deaths in U.S. by year
Can the documentation be updated to give examples of appropriate uses?  —sroc (talk) 03:58, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Rank/mov't indicator arrows

message: You are invited to join the discussion at Template talk:Increase § Size parameter.   talk 04:55, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion at [[:Template talk:Increase#Size parameter|Template talk:Increase §&nbsp;Size parameter]]