Talk:The Black Cauldron (film)

message: "Another scene cut featured a man being dissolved by mist. [1](http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/2677/cuttbc.gif)"
This link no longer seems to work.  Is there any version of this animation somewhere else? Rapidflash 04:59, 3 July 2006
:Hi, I haven't seen this movie but, I added that link because I thought it would help the article. The link is actually a link to an image located at a fan site hosted by GeoCities ::(http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Set/2677/). The website mentioned that it was a scan of an animation cel that was on sale on eBay . That was the only place I ever saw it. Meyow 20:59, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the link appears to be working now...ew! I'll add it back to the article. Meyow 21:00, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The link is dead. Unfortunately I have yet to find another image of the scene. Tippiegh 20:59, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Broken Link

message: In the trivia section, the article claims that Tinkerbell makes a cameo appearance, but I did not see her in the Fairfolk segment at all. Can anyone confirm this? Zekintha 03:37, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless this image is doctored… Well, there she is. :P —OneofThem(talk)(contribs) 15:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That link no longer works, so here is a screenshot I just took, plus one with Tinkerbell circled. I believe that's the only shot where she can be seen clearly. Vpw (talk) 07:31, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tinkerbell? 

message: probably worth mentioning this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Black_Cauldron_%28video_game%29) somewhere Pseudo Intellectual (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 23:21, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  computer game adaptation of the film 

message: The article mentions that "Adult Copper", described as a hound, is kidnapped. But in the Internet Movie database, a pig is mentioned: "Hen Wen, a magical oracular pig, is kidnapped by an evil lord known as the Horned King." I also remember a pig, not a dog, but much time has passed since. maybe somebody could doublecheck this?  Best Regards, Hansi  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 145.253.211.143 (talk) 11:49, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dog or pig? 

message: The article lists voice actors for a "Special Edition in 2008," but there are no sources listed and no additional information given on this release. In addition, neither the IMDb nor Amazon.com list any such edition, and the IMDb pages for the voice actors listed do not mention "The Black Cauldron" in any form (either original or special edition). Can we get some sourcing on this? Grammar Cop (talk) 21:17, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ultimatedisney.com has announced a new DVD release in June 2010. --67.172.34.59 (talk) 22:13, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Special Edition in 2008? 

message: I saw the Black Cauldron in a theater when it was first released in the 1980s. I remember a scene where the witches turn Taran into a frog. He tries to escape as the witches try to catch him. He jumps down the cleavage of the fat witch, and she struggles to get him out. I remember this scene well, because it was so shocking for a Disney film. Parents must have complained, because the scene did not appear in the first TV viewing (on the Disney Channel), VHS, nor DVD. I don't see it on Youtube. Mabey it only exists in Disney archives.75.83.48.125 (talk) 22:42, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to mention it in the article, if you can find a reliable source that discusses it. Otherwise you're looking at original research which isn't appropriate for inclusion. Doniago (talk) 19:23, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's Fflewddur Fflam (not Taran) that gets stuck in the witch's cleavage while in frog form. The scene does appear in my copy of the film, which I believe is from the 2000 DVD release. Vpw (talk) 07:47, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another banned scene 

message: There is a mention in the article that "Princess Eilonwy partially nude as fabric was ripped off of her dress as she is hanging by her hands."  While this is perhaps the most intriguing of the legendary deleted scenes, no source is cited for it.  Please add source reference.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.238.69.130 (talk) 01:43, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted scene of Eilonwy's ripped dress? 

message: Why is this film so obscure compared to most Disney theatrical animated feature films?? Does it have anything to do with having too much evil?? Georgia guy (talk) 17:05, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically, this is almost a forum-like post, but the question could also lead to some research that could be incorporated into the article. Personally, I can think of several more obscure works ... Make Mine Music, Fun and Fancy Free and Melody Time, among others. And an argument could be made for how dark it is, much in the same vein as The Hunchback of Notre Dame. So perhaps we could track down some old reviews of the film to see what they thought (for example, if they said "this is very dark for a Disney film"). That said, it's easier to say it just doesn't have the following or the longevity of the more well-known features (anything with a princess, The Lion King, etc.).  --McDoobAU93 17:38, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this has to do with the fact that it was taken out of circulation from 1985 to 1998, essentially double the length of most Disney movies reissue rotation. It was one of the last of the Walt Disney Animation Studios films to receive a home video release and was not re-issued in theatres. For a long time this film and Song of the South were thought to have been permanently banished to the Disney vault until in 1997 it showed up on VHS in Europe, and in 1998 wound up being released in North America and Japan again.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.46.168.51 (talk) 19:02, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obscurity 

message: * "This use of multiple endings predated the more famous use in Lucasfilm's game Maniac Mansion by a year."
This needs some context beyond "predated the more famous". Is the Lucasfilm game widely and wrongly  considered to be an important pioneer in this respect? Regardless whether linked articles explain this, it should be briefly stated here. Were there other games, now commonly overlooked, which predated both of the Lucasfilm game and this one?
* "In order to make the game more accessible to children, Sierra used an innovative idea that would not reappear in the genre for the next 10 years:"
Does this make the game historically significant, perhaps in a light sense? For example, does it refer to all games played at computer stations? A citation will be welcome and may be necessary on this point.
* text parser, function keys, point-and-click --all of these link to general articles. Much better, they would link to sections in some game articles like player character, or to entire articles (lists? categories?) concerning games of one type or another type. One of those targets might even cover or indicate the "historical" significance (just above). 
Depending on the truth of these matters (where i have no clue) and how well they can be explained here, some other articles should link to this section. On the other hand, if it's too important and this is done too well ;-) this becomes its own article. --P64 (talk) 19:27, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video game significance 

message: According to the print Encyclopedia of Fantasy, methods used by Ralph Bakshi in The Lord of the Rings (1978 film) were used in Disney, The Black Cauldron. 
According to our article on the film, Bakshi used new techniques of animation --not entirely or only rotoscoping per se, iiuc, but it is not likely that I do understand much correctly. Someone with a little expertise (or a reliable source!), who knows both films too, may be able to help this article a lot. 
See also my previous comment about what may be historically significant in the video game industry. --P64 (talk) 23:39, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Animation technique 

message: The link provided for the budget says only that it cost "over $25 million" to make, whereas twice in this article it cites $44 million.  Where does that figure come from?  Also, the intended meaning of "unadjusted expansive" when this figure is referred to under Release is unclear.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macleod199 (talk • contribs) 18:15, 11 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Budget 

message: There are rumors floating about on the Internet that Disney intended to release Cauldron on VHS sometime around 1989 or 1990, and a video master was created for that purpose, but once The Little Mermaid was released, the studio withdrew those plans. Is there any legitimate evidence to confirm this, or is this just a rumor? Freshh! (talk) 17:43, 18 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Initial video release? 

message: Walt Disney Animation did not change its name to Walt Disney Feature Animation till 1986. You can replace Walt Disney Feature Animation with Walt Disney Pictures.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.21.56.40 (talk) 05:28, 27 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Walt Disney Feature Animation 

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message: Hello, when I look it up on the Internet it seems that I am not the only one who notices some similarities between the characters of this movie and those in the TV show Gummi Bears. But there does not seem an "official" confirmation out there, or a review that explains the relationship. - And maybe this is just a similarity like between Brother Tuck and Balu the Bear, or Mowgli and Christopher Robin (they copied some animated movements). Does anybody know more about this relationship? Kind regards, Ziko (talk) 15:11, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Black Cauldron and the Disney Gummi Bears 

message: ;VHS
*November 1998 (Abril Vídeo) (cancelled / scrapped)
*December 1999 or January 2000 (Buena Vista Home Entertainment)
*2003 (Walt Disney Home Entertainment)
;DVD
*2003 (Walt Disney Home Entertainment)
;Streaming
*2011 (Walt Disney Studios Home Entertainment)
*2020 (Disney+)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 170.82.183.13 (talk) 15:03, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brazilian Home media 

message: The link w/ the article title ""The Black Cauldron" : What Went Wrong" by Jim Hill is broken. Is there anything we can do about it?
Evope (talk) 20:24, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Did you try Wayback Machine or other options in that regard? DonIago (talk) 02:19, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  link w/ page ""The Black Cauldron" : What Went Wrong" by Jim Hill 

message: The page has clearly been vandalized, particularly in the plot section. Winnie the Pooh, Bugs Bunny, Scooby Doo and a plethora of other animated characters mentioned are not used in the film. 24.68.163.191 (talk) 04:33, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been fixed. As the vandalism had just occurred, seems like something you could have undone yourself, but it's been taken care of. Cheers. DonIago (talk) 06:30, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Vandalised