Talk:Rootless cosmopolitan

message: Widely can be a weasel word, hiding poor attribution. WP:WEASEL. Thus, most of the sources are from the United States and almost all from the United States or United Kingdom. Is that widely? The great majority of those expressing an opinion are Jewish. Is that widely? How representative is this handful of commentators, activists and politicians? 
Which languages and time periods does this statement apply to? Several of the sources simply refer to it in theoretical and historical terms as a type of prejudice rather than as a phrase in use. Others do not suggest it is antisemitic at all. None of the sources use the term as it was used under Stalin i.e. referring to a Jew as a rootless cosmopolitan or to Jews as rootless cosmopolitans. Instead, there are references to related phrases e.g. rootless cosmopolitan elite or cosmopolitan xxxx. Are they the same in meaning or different from the original phrase? 
There are few, if any, clear examples in the sources of antisemitic intent. How many people are educated in the detailed history of the Soviet Union and so are aware of the issue? Does it make a difference that migration and globalisation mean that many millions of people of every culture and country now move between countries more than once in their lives and are open to multinational influences? Some sources say that such terms should not be used even where there is no antisemitic intent. Should one stop using meaningful words and phrases because of their use in a foreign language 70 years ago? 
I think there is more to this that can be captured in a single sentence. It should probably either be expanded to look in detail at controversy over the use of related phrases in the 21st century or reworded to indicate the limitations. Jontel (talk) 18:01, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: That's most likely because most countries do not have a significant Jewish population, so they don't have as much of a debate around antisemitism and/or the publications would not be in English. However, I just found a source in French talking about "cosmopolitan" being used as an anti-Jewish expression around the time of the Dreyfus affair  Here is a German source which says that Action Française accused Jews of being cosmopolitans  both of these were very easy to find by searching "cosmopolitan antisemitism" in the respective languages, so please don't claim that such sources don't exist without trying your own search. (t · c) buidhe 22:38, 11 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not see that claim in what I said, so sorry if I was not clear. I was talking only of the sources already referenced in the article. My point was that the article could usefully be expanded to include other countries and periods. I can quite see that the term would be used in multiple languages. Jontel (talk) 05:16, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why not add some reliable, verifiable sources that say it isn't an anti-Semitic trope if that is your position? 80.47.137.128 (talk) 14:03, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it widely considered antisemitic? 

message: It's true that the perceived cosmopolitanism of Jewish people is a recurring theme in anti-Semitic discourse, but the cosmopolitan-provincial divide and the concept of 'rootlessness' have so much salience in mainstream political science + philosophy that it strikes me as totally bizarre that they're being presented here as exclusively anti-Semitic dog whistles. The cosmopolitan-provincial divide exists between Jews as strongly as within other demographics. It's like if a flurry of right-wing American newspapers were cited to the effect that 'anti-country rhetoric' had 'troubling' historical precedents viz a viz dekulakization, or that anti-capitalist slogans were associated with left-wing and fascist suppression of Jews. They would be correct to a degree, but it would not be anything close to the whole truth. There's a lot being omitted. Maskettaman (talk) 07:49, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , Here we go based on reliable sources rather than original research. Any proposed additions to the article must be supported by reliable sources. (t · c) buidhe 07:52, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
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