Talk:LGBT rights in Cuba

message: I submitted this article and made a mistake in the capitalization of "Cuba" in the title.  As I am a new user, I am not able to change the title myself. Franklin Moore 19:18, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. To move a page, use the "move" tab on the top of the article (between the "history" and the "watch" tab). Feel free to ask me any questions about how to do stuff like this. :) ntennis 07:18, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The issue of the raid on El Periquitón was removed from the article as being unconfirmed.  After some editing I have restored it.  The raid was widely reported and has been cited, not only by countless gay new services but also the United States Government and the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights.  While the government source does not mention the arrest of Pedro Almodovar and Jean Paul Gaultier.  That detail was also widely reported in Europe and in the United States (without a reference to its being unconfirmed) by the Dallas Morning News.  Additionally, the US Government report contains an extensive list of sources, many of which also include a very detailed account of the event.  A partial list of the references are as follows:
UNCHR []
US Citzenship and Immigration Service - U.S. Department of Homeland Security []
Cuban American National Foundation  []
Plan Notici@as []
Cubanet []
Zunega APIC reprinted in translation at Florida International University's web site[]
Niuews Bank  []
Dallas Morning News - avaliable for purchase  ["Gays%20struggling%20to%20find%20a%20place%20in%20macho,%20authoritarian%20Cuba")&p_perpage=10&p_sort=YMD_date:D&xcal_useweights=no]
:Thanks for taking the trouble to give it some credibility. Good job! I must say at first glance all primary sources seem to have an anti-cuban agenda. If so, it ought to be made clear. Jens Nielsen 09:57, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: El Periquitón Raid

message: Does anyone have information about "Operacion P"? Supposedly starting in 1960, it was a government program targetting "pimps, prostitutes and pedofiles". However all the online references i can find are from less-than-rigorous websites with an axe to grind, or have got their info from such sites. ntennis 01:23, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Operation P 

message: The introduction of the article notes "it is widely acknowledged that during this period, Cuba was among the most active persecutors of homosexuals in the western hemisphere."  This soulds a bit weasely, and needs a citation (or two).  It shouldn't be that hard, given that it is "widely acknowledged". And out of curiousity, which country is the least active persecutor of homosexuals in the western hemisphere? And how about the eastern hemisphere? Patiwat 07:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cuba most active persecutor of homosexuals in the western hemisphere? 

message: Would anyone object to a page move to LGBT rights in Cuba? The page already has stuff relating to gender, and i'd like to add more. There's a precedent too: LGBT rights in Jamaica. ntennis 17:21, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea. Haiduc 01:30, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Ditto. --Zleitzen 01:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: LGBT rights

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message: This came from protests from the nation's growing evangelical community.. The pressure was too great.68.47.64.121 (talk) 15:20, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: The Cuban government flip flopped on Gay Marriage

message: No, "Historically, public antipathy towards LGBT people was high, reflecting regional norms. This has eased since the 1990s." is not about the state. SNAAAAKE!! (talk) 13:27, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  The lead summary fails to summarize the historical situation(s) regarding the government even in a single word or sentence 

message: Can anybody find a source for this claim in the section "Negative attitudes during most of the 1970s"? The only one provided is a blog called "TOTALITARIAN IMAGES", which does seem to host some primary sources but none relating to this alleged second period of systematic internment. I initially tried to find other sources (principally looking at Guerra, Lillian (2010) though I'd skimmed a few others referenced in this article as well) to see if descriptions of the conditions could be verified, but I can't actually find any reference to the camps continuing in any form, and the Wikipedia article on UMAP camps makes no mention of them continuing in another form post-1968.
If nobody can find a corroborating source on this I'll edit to remove the part alleging they continued; the rest of the paragraph seems to be more accurately rolled into the preceding subsection on the UMAPs camps themselves anyway.
Chaste Krassley (talk) 08:36, 17 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm removing this paragraph. The only source in it (https://web.archive.org/web/20090522002648/http://www.fightforchange.org/castros-daughter-leads-gay-rights-conga-line/) says nothing about the continuation of UMAP or UMAP-like camps past their official abolition in 1968 (and in all honesty it really says nothing not already said by better sources), and the claim has been sitting unsourced for over a decade now. Some of it could be re-added to the preceding section if appropriate (e.g. part on Castro's justification), though in my view it's probably better suited for the UMAP page itself given the section's already quite lengthy, so I'll leave that to other editors to consider. Chaste Krassley (talk) 00:09, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Although the UMAP program ended in 1968, the camps themselves continued." 

message: The source only links to Cuba approving same-sex marriage, yet gay marriage is legal in most of Latin America and many of those countries approved it way before Cuba did. Pol Cəl (talk) 21:05, 14 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  LGBT rights in Cuba aren't among the most progressive in Latin America 

message: It’s a little crazy that the only mention of the family code is in the lede of this article. I am fairly certain it deserves mention in the “history” section at least.
Aside from the lede, the rest of the text in the page still largely gives the impression that Cuba today has laws which discriminate against lgbt Cubans even though the opposite has been true for almost 18 months now. 74.109.240.116 (talk) 21:40, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non inclusion of the family code in the body of the article