Talk:Bear River Massacre Site

message: Additional photos and/or photo uploads are needed.
*HABS photos are not available for this site.
*One NRHP photo linked in article is not clearly in the public domain, although if taken by a NPS employee it may be.
*New photos would be helpful.
:I happen to live about 20 miles from the site of this event.  In fact, the photos that you are using are ones that I took with a rather inexpensive digital camera (the photo quality shows when mangnified).  I'm curious about what other kinds of photos you would be interested in trying to capture for this site... as there really isn't much here.
:I would like to get some photos of the hot springs area that was used by the Shoshoni bands prior to the event, and perhaps get a photo of the survey map prepared by the National Park Service that documented its submission as a historical site.  This survey map is in the Utah State University archives, and I've scanned through it for some additional details of the massacre.
:Considering that other Indian massacre sites have obtained national monument status, there is an effort on the part of the Shoshoni people to try and preserve the site by some means other than its current semi-protected status.  Preston, Idaho is a growing city now officially in a Metropolitan Statistical Area... technically an urban corridor now.  In fact the Preston Municipal Airport uses the site as a part of its approach area.  Except for the area immediately around the monument that holds enough room for maybe a dozen automobiles, and about 2 acres with a couple of trees right next to the monument, all of the rest of the site is in private hands and used for agricultural purposes.  Highway 91 isn't just adjacent to the site, but in fact runs right through the middle of the whole thing.  The Shoshoni encampment was actually on the other side of the highway from where the monument is located at.  The Bear River has also shifted to the south by about 1/2 mile from where it was when the massacre happened.  In theory, the whole site could comprise a couple thousand acres if it were fully developed into a national monument of some sort.  Similar areas of Franklin County are now being developed into subdivisions, so I can understand why some sort of protection is sought.
:In its current form, there is a whole lot of nothing to photograph besides what is currently on Commons.  I could photograph the site in winter, which might have some merit considering that the event took place about this time of the year, as the anniversary of this event just took place.  Other than staying on Highway 91, going off road is not something to do unless you have a snowmobile this time of the year in Preston.  --Robert Horning (talk) 02:13, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you for taking the photos.  Please do appreciate u r the only photographer that I have ever given the royal treatment to, in the presentation of the scrolling kind because the pic is really big and wide and nice like that.   (And I have probably created 1,000 articles on historic places by now.) Photographs in winter would be helpful, too, especially as you point out that winter photographs have a particular historical resonance.  In general, a wikipedia article about a place is enriched by having multiple pictures, lots of them even, which might be organized into a Commons category about the specific place and linked to by a Commons category link.  I know that a wikipedian and photographer in New Orleans did a great job along those lines, creating a separate Commons category for each of many New Orleans landmarks.  Please, take a snowmobile out and take more pics, and share them!  I for one would appreciate it. doncram (talk) 02:17, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
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