Talk:Dasavathaaram

message: Shall I (or anyone else) add a box office comparison of Dasavatharam with Sivaji to show how well Dasavatharam is faring than Sivaji in the overall box office?
Manojlds (talk) 14:22, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You may as well do so, but you seem to be treading the wrong path by sourcing your blog. This doesn't work. Please learn and contribute more constructively. The best way to go about adding to the article is by having suitable reliable references that are verifiable. Hope this helps. Mspraveen (talk) 14:46, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comparisons with Sivaji

message: Why cant i add a dasavatharam review to the External Links of the page? Am not trying to promote my site, i just felt that as an ardent Kamal fan would like my views to be seen and also get the opinions of others. I also run a poll that i would like many to participate in. I dont see any wrong in adding such links in External links part
Manojlds (talk) 15:49, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but that would be termed as spam. Please refer to the manual to get more information on what and what not should be in the External links section. Hope this helps. Cheers! Mspraveen (talk) 15:54, 26 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I am sorry Mspraveen, but you are mistaken. Reviews are indeed allowed to be added as per the manual (please read the first sentence of the manual carefully). You can also check out the pages for other movies on wikipedia. Such links CANNOT be used as a source or citation, but they can be added as external links.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ionlygreat (talk • contribs) 23:47, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: External Links

message: Could someone protect this page from those improfessional edits.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.92.57.179 (talk) 10:02, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Protection

message: *I noticed that it is stated in the Trivia that the earlier record number of roles played by a single person in one movie was help by Eddie Murphy for playing 8 different roles. Didnt Shivaji Ganesan play 9 different roles in Navarathiri?
Wiki San Roze talk  07:33, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: What is this, exactly? A Google search turns up nothing, leading me to believe that it is either a mis-spelling, or simply doesn't exist.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jakeboy76 (talk • contribs) 23:22, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stalerottan technology? 

message: Somebody is spamming this movie into the Chaos theory article, the last weeks. This is completely unacceptable. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 17:51, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dasavathaaram Spam 

message: There are no sources for the plot summary (second paragraph of the lead) or the plot section, not even from the producer's site.  The "information" should be deleted from the article unless a source is provided.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 12:35, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just because the FA review "committee" missed blatant violations of Wikipedia policies, doesn't mean we have to do so here.  Does this fall into WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS?  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 13:04, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tags 

message: I'm afraid I can no longer remove the unsourced, possibly relevant, commentary on the 10 roles, because of WP:3RR.  I self-reverted my 4th revert.  Can others help, or do we need to protect this article against irrelevancies.  AGAIN.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 20:30, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is under my purview now. Further to let you know, the 3RR applies to edit wars but not for POV-related vandalism. I've warned the users involved suitably based on their actions. Should you happen to notice any similar vandalism, please consider using suitable warning templates. Thanks for your efforts in fighting POVs and dubious unsourced contributions. Mspraveen (talk) 08:20, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  10 roles 

message: Dasavatharam doesn't speak about chaos theory or butterfly effect. There is not a single point in the movie to substatiate that claim. Kamal says at a point in the movie that "there is a concept in modern science which attributes the flaps of a butterfly to hurricanes but this is a story that shows a butterfly flying amid hurricanes". It's a well-knitted human story on the lines of Periyar.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Observer314 (talk • contribs) 17:53, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I commented on this a long time ago, and was ignored.  It's about what I would call the coincidence effect, which seems in keeping with what I know about the Hindu concept of reincarnation; that people and things which once interact, will continue to interact, even in the next incarnation.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 03:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Actually Kamal did say "Chaos Theory". But I think the dialogue had an error. He said Chaos Theory but gave an explanation of the Butterfly Effect. The movie may not be exactly based on those two but it surely interlaces the two with the story (see the paragraph about Dasavathaaram on the Butterfly effect in popular culture article). Eelam StyleZ (talk) 21:24, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dasavatharam - it's not about Chaos Theory or Butterfly Effect 

message: Whats the real budget of Dasavathaaram? Each time I view Dasavathaaram's article it changes from 60 crores to 120 crores to 80 crores and so on.Xxxsacheinxxx (talk) 15:56, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Budget? 

message: I'm not reviewing this article, but thought the editors might find this "pre-review" useful.
*I just noticed (again) that the plot consists of close to 2000 words. This is, 1100 words more than what style guidelines for films. Agreed that the plot consists of several inter-woven short stories, but IMO, overshooting the target by 1100 is atrocious. May the editors do the needful so as to facilitate easier transition to a GA. 
*IMDB is sourced twice as a reference. IMDB is not considered anymore as a reliable source. I also noticed use of LOTW as a reference. I'm unsure of its reliability and verifiability. Rest of the sources appear fine to me. Though there are some which aren't exactly reliable (like MaduraiMachan.com, FilmSutra.com and ExtraMirchi.com), but as long as they aren't cited for controversial information, I think they are fine. The GA reviewer may consider this otherwise.
*The article lacks an infobox poster. I'd suggest to have one for the infobox and remove the one for the soundtrack. Either of them will sort of convey the same information.
*Otherwise I felt that the article is quite comprehensive for a GA.
Good luck! Mspraveen (talk) 03:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanx. I'll do everything within the next 24 hours before submitting it. Can you give me an idea of how much non-free photos I can add? Universal Hero (talk) 10:43, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're quite welcome! :) Non-free should ideally be utmost two, IMO. Poster will anyways constitute one. Ideally, if an additional one needs to be used, then the prose should back it up well, say something on the lines of discussing a particular production element. But GA reviewers don't quite make a big fuss if there are 2/3. But since the goal of the pedia is to reduce non-free fair-use images, the lesser the better. Good luck and holler me back if you need any assistance. Mspraveen (talk) 11:56, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments before GA review 

message: I just moved the article back from Dasavathaaram (film), per WP:NAME. Arjun, could you explain why you moved it in the first place? I see no need for the qualifier. Is there a similarily popular topic of the same name? --AmaltheaTalk 19:38, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved the article to Dasavathaaram (film) because of the presence of a similarly popular topic of the name Dasavatara. The word "Dasavatara", is rendered as "Dasavataram" in South Indian languages like Malayalam. They are sufficiently similar for a move to be warranted. I propose the creation of a disambigaution page, or the addition of the "for" template at the start of each article disambiguating/linking them to each other. For rules and guidelines please consult WP:NCF. Cheers! Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 02:14, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion, mistakenly typing "Dasavathaaram" when looking for "Dasavataram" seems unlikely enough that the article should definitely remain here, without the qualifier.If you feel that enough people actually will type this name while searching for Dasavatara and that a disambiguation page makes sense it can still be created at Dasavathaaram (disambiguation), with a  hatnote pointing there.But of course I know nothing about transliterations in general or Malayalam in particular, so I might be very wrong. :) --AmaltheaTalk 15:09, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a for template at the start of the article disambiguating/pointing to Daśāvatāra. Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 03:08, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm still not quite getting it. Is "Dasavathaaram" really a variant or possible transliteration of Daśāvatāra? Because if it isn't then I don't think that it's a plausible typo to search for "Dasavathaaram" when you meant to type "Dasavataram".Also, why haven't you created Dasavataram yet? --AmaltheaTalk 17:46, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Dasavathaaram is a very common transliteration of Dasavataram written in Malayalam. In fact if you write this film's name is the Malayalam script, it reads exactly the same as 'Dasavataram'. (ie. both Dasavataram and this film's name are spelled exactly the same in Malayam (and possibly in the Tamil script too)). Hence the for template. Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 03:29, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding the creation of Dasavathaaram (disambiguation) and having a  hatnote pointing there: Since there are only two articles with such similar names, a dablink would not be necessary. dablinks, I think are used primarily when there are 3 or more article with similar names needing disambigaution. In this scenario, I feel a for template works best. Arjun G. Menon (talk · mail) 03:38, 14 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Arjun is over rwcting. A possible heavy Hindu believer. That article shouldn't be a part of this. Universal Hero (talk) 17:48, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it makes sense to me. I don't know the film and have only now skimmed over the article, but the film was obviously named after Daśāvatāra and has strong connections to that principle, through the avatars of Kamal Haasan.I still am convinced that the film will be the likely search target for anyone who types in "Dasavathaaram", so it shouldn't be moved. If reliable sources can be found however that describe the relationship between the characters and the avatars (like  or , only reliable) then that should be added to the article too, since it seems important for its interpretation.So, to answer your objection, it seems like this article already is a part of "this". --AmaltheaTalk 13:41, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Page name

message: This article gives the budget for the film as $12.5 million (60 crore rupees then at exchange rate of $1 = 48 rupees) based on a singular interview given by the producer. I believe this figure is nonsensical considering the small scale of Tamil film industry. Even Bollywood films do not have this level of budget though their markets are much larger and significant on a global scale. I however agree that this film was the biggest hit in Kamal's career and the second biggest hit ever in Tamil film industry after Sivaji that released in 2007. Moreover, boxofficemojo.com reported that this film grossed over $16 million worldwide in the first 4 weeks. Anwar (talk) 08:51, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For the moment, I suppose we listen to sources and let it be as its is believed in popular belief. Universal Hero (talk) 11:12, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is that an excuse? I am not saying the film is a flop. I am saying the scope was limited than you think. Just think before beginning a revert war again. Anwar (talk) 11:20, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

text: It would help, if you present your stats on a userpage and let people check over it, instead of adding one-liners. Please also use Indian money values. Thanks. Universal Hero (talk) 11:26, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious budget figure 

message: There are two deadlinks in which I couldn't find any archived versions on web.archive.org that need to be addressed:
*http://www.thetimes.co.za/Entertainment/Article.aspx?id=792296
*http://www.mumbaimirror.com/net/mmpaper.aspx?page=article§id=30&contentid=2008042620080426020622346670e78b0&pageno=1 (Ref #38)
–MuZemike 18:43, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deadlinks 

message: Global Box Office Tally	Global Box Office Tally	Global Box Office Tally	Global Box Office Tally	Global Box Office Tally	Global Box Office Tally
Territory              	Screens                	Screen%                	Gross( crore)(lifetime)	Gross%                 	TradeNote
Tamil Nadu             	275                    	21%                    	88                     	44%                    	Hit
Andhra Pradesh         	260                    	20%                    	40                     	20%                    	Hit
Kerala                 	85                     	7%                     	14                     	7%                     	Hit
Karnataka              	80                     	6%                     	12                     	6%                     	Hit
Rest of India          	410                    	31%                    	6                      	3%                     	Flop✓
Domestic Total         	1,110                  	85%                    	160                    	80%                    	-
Malaysia               	58                     	4%                     	10                     	5%                     	Hit
USA                    	42                     	3%                     	8                      	4%                     	Hit
UK                     	19                     	2%                     	6                      	3%                     	Hit
Rest of the World      	71                     	6%                     	16                     	8%                     	Hit
Overseas Total         	190                    	15%                    	40                     	20%                    	-
Global Total           	1,300                  	100%                   	200                    	100%                   	-
Adding this table gives a clear picture of the film's performance, from all versions, in several markets. As the film has been declared flop in Bollywood, it is unlikely to reset any record. It is unfortunate. The film fell 50% every week in both domestic and overseas markets.
:Dear anonymous table creator: If this info is to appear in the article, you will first need to provide your source for the numbers. AtticusX (talk) 07:46, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I notice you've changed some numbers in the table, but you still haven't provided a reference to your source so your data can be verified.  AtticusX (talk) 20:24, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please add this table to the article 

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message: * http://www.extramirchi.com/movies/dasavatharam-biggest-opening-in-my-entire-career-kamal/ ---- Kailash29792 (talk) 15:14, 10 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useful sources 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In the infobox, there are notes in the financial parameters that say "Let this be blank, to prevent edit wars". I could be wrong, but it looks like this was added by  in this edit in May 2015. I see some back and forth over the financials in 2015--, maybe you were involved? Is this still in dispute, or are there potentially current sources that present generally agreed-upon figures for budget and gross? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 19:32, 22 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not want to have anything to do with this except discuss a potential GA/FA, because box office figures are irritatingly questionable in Indian cinema, and cause us nothing but strain. --Kailash29792 (talk)  02:02, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Let this be blank, to prevent edit wars" 

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message: In this edit I flagged the gross for improved source. It's bizarre that we're taking a 2008 USD value of $14.6 million and then converting retroactively to the 2008 Indian rupee. Very weird approach that's open to great inaccuracy. Need a better source on that. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 18:52, 1 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gross