Talk:Albert Gore Sr.

message: There is a serious mistake in the Boston Globe article linked at the bottom.  Tex Ritter was running in the Republican Primary against Brock to oppose Gore, not in the Democratic Primary against Gore, when he dubbed him "The gray fox of Tennessee politics."
Rlquall 18:34, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Mistake in Boston Globe article

message: I heard somewhere that he was briefly involved with the KKK. Can this be confirmed?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.132.15.213 (talk • contribs) 13 February 2006.
:Perhaps you're thinking of Senator Robert Byrd from W.Va. Kaldari 23:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: nope Al Gore SR. Was a grand wizard in 2603:7000:D703:A1B6:A134:BD8A:C559:AE77 (talk) 15:08, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: KKK?

message: Al Gore Sr. was a member of the KKK and voted againsted the Civil Rights Act of 1964. It's just highly UNETHICAL, ORWELLIAN even, that the liberals who run wikipedia would try and revise history by sliding this down the proverbial "memory hole."
:Orwellian it may well be, but if you have secondary sources to support your contention, I'LL add that juicy tidbit MYSELF.  However, I believe it would be big news in these politically polarized times, and it would already appear here, if supportable.  This IS a biography of a living person (well, not THIS article, but Al, Jr.'s), and therefore falls under special policies, instituted after MAJOR lawsuits vs. the WMF, but if the info can be supported by reputable sources, even if controversial, it is allowed.  And valuable to understand the times.
:By the way, don't forget to sign your posts.  This serves several purposes, all significant.  rags (talk) 23:48, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: KKK MEMBER - YES INDEED 

message: 1) Was Al Sr. not the son of Judge John Gore of Jackson Co. Tenn., prominent in 1910s-20s in Nashville? I see his father as Allen here -- possibly correct, and not something I have time to check at the moment, but I was always under the impression he was the son of the Judge. I know the Senator was born in Granville, the would-be riverboat town at on the Cumberland near Carthage where my grandmother grew up.
2) I have recently found and digitized a tape of an interview I did with the elder Sen. Gore by phone during the 1992 presidential campaign. The topic was when and how his son developed the will to move from journalism to public life. The int runs 30+ minutes and is a large mp3 file. I own all rights to it, but I don't know whether its size might violate any rules on wikipedia. I can put it on my own site if need be.
--Tom Wood 05:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In order to post the file on Wikipedia, you would need to release it under a free license, i.e. you would need to grant permission for anyone to reuse the material, even for commercial purposes. Also, I'm not sure how "encyclopedic" such material would be, so it may be a better idea for you to host the file yourself and simply link to it as an external link. Kaldari 23:25, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Correct parent? Also audio.

message: Shouldn't this be at Al Gore, Sr - both father and son were known as "Al Gore" during their careers. PMA (talk) 03:32, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I want to take issue with that.  I grew up in Tennessee during Albert Sr.'s tenure, and I never ONCE heard him called "Al."  Where does this information come from?  Possibly in Carthage his family called him Al, but friends and enemies alike all, always referred to "Albert Gore," in my memory.  I have a friend who worked his campaign.  (My family did not support him politically, and I was young and stupid, and had no use for ANY politicians, period).  I'll ask her.  I realize that is a perfect example of unencyclopedic research, o.r., but Jimbo always says there are exceptions, and that common sense should prevail.  I think if Albert was the name he campaigned with and served under, it should be pretty clear from newspaper/magazine coverage.  rags (talk) 23:24, 31 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed move

message: I removed the text in italics that follows from the article.  I can't find any support for the suggestion that Albert Gore Sr. was not the descendant of Mounce Gore.  According to most sources, Charles Claiborne Gore was born 16 January 1840.  Most sources give Mounce Gore's death as occurring in 1848 or 1849, but it seems he was dead by 07 June 1841 when an Overton County, Tennessee court record mentioned Mounce Gore's administrator.  It appears to be true that Rebecca Simcoe Gore had four out-of-wedlock births after her husband's death, with the first occurring in 1847 and the last in 1859.  See [Ancestry of Al Gore by William Addams Reitwiesner], [Mounce Gore posted by James L. Gore], and [Descendants of Isaac (Ike) Gore by Joyce Gore Locke].
(removed text) Although descended from early settlers of Overton County, Tennessee, the actual Gore lineage is in doubt. Gore's great-grandmother, Rebecca Simcoe, married Mounce Gore and had several children. Mounce Gore then died in 1838. In 1840, well over a year after her husband's death, Rebecca gave birth to Claiborne Gore, Gore's grandfather. Rebecca never remarried but continued to have other children into her 40's.
Janeky (talk) 04:29, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ancestry

message: The article states on the issue of voting against the Civil Rights Act of 1964, that that Gore "later claimed that the 1964 vote was his biggest mistake".  Can anyone give a source for this? --T smitts (talk) 20:45, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Regretting his 1964 civil rights vote

message: I have removed the part about Sen William Brock "playing on white voters fears" because there is no evidence to back this up and no sources cited to it.
(removed text)In this Senate race, Brock was perceived to have won by playing on white voters' fears of federal civil rights legislation and desegregation.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.113.194.230 (talk) 20:18, 30 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  William Brock 

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message: I have no references, but it's my understanding that there's a major error in the brief third paragraph under the heading Congressional career, which reads in part
*"[Gore] was elected in 1952 to the U.S. Senate. In his 1952 election, he defeated six-term incumbent Kenneth McKellar. Gore's victory, coupled with that of Frank G. Clement for governor of Tennessee over incumbent Gordon Browning on the same day, is widely regarded as a major turning point in Tennessee political history and as marking the end of statewide influence for E. H. Crump, the Memphis political boss."
It's true that Senator Kenneth McKellar was a long-time fixture of the Crump machine, and his defeat by Gore in 1952 was widely hailed as a serous blow to Crump. However, in the governor's race, although Gordon Browning had also long been supported by Crump, by 1948 he had turned away from Crump, and in fact Crump's candidate for governor in 1952 was Frank G. Clement, instead, who won that election.
The article on Crump reads
*"Gordon Browning, a one-time protégé whom Crump had helped elect governor in 1936, was elected governor again in 1948, this time over Crump's opposition. For the rest of his life, Crump's influence was largely limited to Memphis. In 1952, his longtime associate, Senator Kenneth McKellar, was defeated in the Democratic primary — in those days with a practically powerless state Republican party, the real contest in Tennessee — by Congressman Albert Gore, Sr. A final triumph for Crump was the victory in 1952 of his chosen candidate, Frank G. Clement in the gubernatorial primary over Browning."
This directly contradicts the unsourced statement in the article on Albert Gore Sr. I am taking the liberty of removing the phrase "coupled with that of Frank G. Clement for governor of Tennessee over incumbent Gordon Browning on the same day" as inaccurate. Milkunderwood (talk) 18:40, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[E._H._Crump#The_Crump_machine]] 

message: The article needs more inline citations and has been tagged accordingly. SunCrow (talk) 17:43, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources