Talk:List of grand couturiers

message: I've opened the article with a definition of a grands couteriers. Feel free to edit to improve it.Kwazyutopia19 00:42, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Grands couturiers usually are household names who have high profile clients
Most of these names are unknown in my household, and most of the remainder of the names are never mentioned.
And that's even before asking what a "high profile client" means in depeacocked English. -- Hoary (talk) 15:01, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of a grands couturiers 

message: This article tells me that
:Grands couturiers usually are household names who have high profile clients
Most of these names are unknown in my household, and most of the remainder of the names are never mentioned.
And that's even before asking what a "high profile client" means in depeacocked English. -- Hoary (talk) 15:01, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: "household names"

message: The list should be alphabetical and we need to decide which designers are grands couteriers. Kwazyutopia19 00:42, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Assuming we stick to the general definition of "grand couturier" (cf. here) - and I don't think there is any other objective criterion -, "grand" stands for "haut": "a grand couturier is a fashion designer that has been inducted into the Chambre Syndicale de la Haute Couture". The scope of the list should be strictly related to the official list of current and former members of the Chambre Syndicale de la Haute Couture, including "correspondants" and "guests" but excluding jewelry and accessories, as indicated in the article on Haute Couture. For fashion designers holding "significant influence in the fashion industry", i.e. notable fashion designers, the list of fashion designers is more suitable. Racconish  Tk    08:05, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

text: No. WE do NOT "decide" who they are. They are all listed in the FHCM website. If they are not listed, they are not members. And that's it. Fmerjudio (talk) 08:56, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of grands couteriers 

message: Is this meant to be a consistently updated list showing the current grands couturiers and invited members, and if so, where are previous members/invited members recorded? That's information that would be considered encyclopaedic, as there have been a great number of Paris designers over the 20th century who have been members of the Chambre syndicale de la haute couture - checking the Fédération française de la couture also shows a list that is kept up to date and current, but with no acknowledgement of historic members of the union/group.
It strikes me that something like this page would be a good place for a sortable list table where all fashion houses/designers who are, or were part of the group, can be listed either alphabetically by designer, or chronologically by dates they were a member, where known, probably with a separate list for current members and invited members, and a separate list for invited members who are no longer so, recording the time/year of their tenure as an Invited Member. Many of these designers do not yet have articles, which recently led to an edit wiping out all the "non-notable" red-links, which I feel wasn't appropriate in this instance - being invited to be part of this select group of designers is not just handed out willy nilly to anybody, but is decided on by committee to decide who has the skill, talent and design merit to be invited to participate. Mabalu (talk) 19:07, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's better to merge this list article into the haute couture article (at least for the time being; I personally have yet to see any point why this need to split off from it this early, perhaps later by the time information has grown extensively on other areas, maybe like the metiers), just so we are sure that both details survive by way of enriching each other's content (especially with this idea of an extremely functional table of designers/houses). Fmerjudio (talk) 08:55, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  What exactly is this list, by the way?