Talk:Battle of the Iron Bridge

message: This article is simply pro-Islam propaganda written by an amateur and not useful for Wikipedia.Wiki1609 20:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: "byzantines was Thrashed". 50,000 men? Followed by 70,000 more men? The casualties are inflated
"Muslims troops"..."Muslim columns" "The enemy". Blood hell, there were thousands of christian rebels on the side of the arabs.
Its glorifying the conquest "the greatest city in Syria, blah blah"  Tourskin 04:03, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  heres how its pro islamic 

message: The quality of this article that i wrote last year is not of a type that an encyclopedis article must have, realizing this i am gonna replace it with the new article, hopefully it will be comprehensive and of comparatively good qualityMohammad Adil 21:53, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The new article 

message: At that time, islam was the most powerful empire. They have many great, strong soldier. A large group of trained infantry and experienced cavalry. Elite warriors with high level of strength. They have good strategist and a brave leader too.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.186.116.2 (talk) 16:37, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  It was true 

message: How come only Muslim sources are used. Their POV is likely not to be neutral(maybe propaganda giving courage to modern day Muslim martyrs). 
Isidoros47 (talk) 17:47, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Muslim sources 

message: * Ensured that the article is: within project scope, tagged for task forces, and assessed for class. 
* This article would benefit from:  NPOV expansion and additional in-text citations. --Rosiestep (talk) 22:56, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008]] 

message: I believe the NPOV concerns have been addressed now. The article looks all right to me. It'd be OK to remove the POV tag I think, but I'll leave that to you guys. Cheers. Chamal talk 10:22, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV dispute 

message: where is the iron bridge?--82.81.98.19 (talk) 14:10, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  where is the iron bridge? 

message: I just checked after the last edit the links that are given in regards to the size of the Byzantine army. The first issue is that the last editor apparently misread the numbers in the link provided here https://byzantium.gr/battle.php?byzbat=b7_18 and changed the number instead of the mentioned 15 to 30k. 
The second issue is that the book The Sword of Allah: Khalid bin al-Waleed is given as reference for the maximum number of troops and when I check these two versions available on archive, I am not able to find any numbers. The reference says chapter 36, but in the section on the battle or in the preceding and following paragraphs they are not mentioned either:
https://archive.org/details/khalid_202310/page/296/mode/2up
https://archive.org/details/KhalidBinAl-waleedSwordOfAllah.pdf/page/n291/mode/2up
I will for now revert the change to correct the number stated in the first source for the minimum number and try to find another reliable source for the second, but in case this is futile I suggest to just take the numbers from the first source (i.e. army size of the Byzantine army: 15-20k).
A third problem is that The Sword of Allah is also given as references to the casualties of the Byzantines, ut again, nothing is to be found.PontiffSulivahn (talk) 19:20, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where do the troop numbers in The Sword of Allah: Khalid bin al-Waleed come from?