Talk:List of Latin proverbs

message: IIRC, the reply by some emperor (Caligula?) was something like "have a nice day". Does anyone have the correct quote?Jorge Stolfi 17:56, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Morituri te salutant

message: Is it appropriate to include common or important Latin phrases, such as mottoes, which aren't exactly proverbs, on this page? Is there somewhere else for them?
:Yes! Latin language/Phrases (anon user)
:Mottoes are OK, but phrases that are not complete sentences are better placed in list of Latin phrases.Jorge Stolfi 15:29, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Mottoes and phrases

message: I removed a number of very funny but inauthentic and latter-day "proverbs" that I recognize from Henry Beard's Latin for All Occasions. Some may have slipped through, so remove them if you see them. - Montréalais
: Good deed, however I would defend "Illegitimi non carborundum" -- I have seen it several times, so readers are likely to find this entry helpful.Jorge Stolfi 17:56, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Unauthentic proverbs

message: About this entry:
:Gutta cavat lapidem non bis, sed saepe cadendo; sic homo fit sapiens bis non, sed saepe legendo. -- "A drop drills a rock by falling not twice, but many times; so too is a human made smart by reading not two, but many books" (Giordano Bruno).
Could the end be "not twice, but many times"?Jorge Stolfi 15:29, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I believe the translation is wrong on other levels: the word "saepe" here would suggest the following translation: "A drop drills a rock by falling not twice, but constantly (always); so too is a human made smart by reading not twice, but always (always reading)." Redux 05:31, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Gutta et libris

message: I believe that this one has been mistranslated.  If I'm not mistaken, it actually meant: "The spectacle is over".  Octavius Augustus spoke that in his death bed, and so by "spectacle" he meant his life and/or his reign (the modesty!), which was about to end due to his imminent demise. Redux 05:31, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Acta est fabula

message: A mari usque ad mare, the motto of Canada, is not a proverb from what I know. It is taken from a passage in the Bible. This should therefore be removed or maybe moved to List of Latin phrases, don't you think? --Liberlogos 03:05, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  A mari usque ad mare 

message: The last three edits have centered around this text:
:*Draco dormiens numquam titillandus — "Never tickle a sleeping dragon" — Motto of Hogwarts School of Witchcraft and Wizardry in the Harry Potter novels by J. K. Rowling.
To whit:
*11:57, 21 September 2005 155.198.233.90 (Removed Harry Potter(NN))
*16:58, 21 September 2005 Iustinus (Revert: Harry Potter is at least as relevant as Asterix and Mock Latin)
*19:05, 21 September 2005 Jonathunder (this is not a proverb: a pithy saying which had gained credence through widespread or frequent use.)
OK, Jonathunder and 155.198.233.90 may have a point. But if these standards were fairly and consistantly employed a huge portion of this list would have to be removed, e.g. how frequent is Et nunc, reges, intelligite, erudimini, qui judicati terram used? How much "credence" has E pluribus unum gained? What kind of Latin is Minutus cantorum, minutus balorum, minutus carborata descendum pantorum?
Not to mention that the opening paragraph expressly includes "sayings" as well as "proverbs"
I would tend towards inclusionism here. I admit part of my fondness for the HP quote is that Rowling bothered to use real Latin for it. Do we really need to throw out everything that doesn't meet the literal definition of the title? --Iustinus 04:50, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Draco Dormiens 

message: Actually, this phrase does correctly mean "Take care of yourself yourself". The "te" is the reflexive "yourself" (i.e. "the king hit himself"), and the "ipsum" is a determinative pronoun meaning "yourself", (i.e. "the master himself wants to see you"). It only sounds funny in English because English is so much less precise, not having a different word for doing an action to "yourself" and performing an action "yourself". But I won't change it back, because it does sound weird; I just wanted to make that aspect of the phrase clear. -Silence 16:19, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Cura te ipsum