Talk:M5 motorway

message: While J24 is signed for Minehead, it is actually 25 miles away from the motorway!
Also, driving north it's faster to leave the M25 at J25, while now that the Bridgwater "northern distributor road" (=30mph bypass) has been built it must be quicker going south to leave at J23...  80.46.142.136 12:15, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: you'r right, but the J23 exit is not properly signed yet for Minehead.
Pyrotec 19:59, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Junction 24

message: Surely moving this page for disambiguation was a bad idea - M5 (Sydney) is much better known as Metroad 5 anyway. Majority of M5 motorway Google search is English M5... Erath 21:54, August 15, 2005 (UTC)
Redoubling my claim now that the Sydney motorway has been moved back to Metroad 5. Erath 12:31, September 3, 2005 (UTC)
This will provide continuity with other UK motorways. It was originally disambiguated for "M5 motorway (Sydney)", which was, always should have been, and has now been reverted to, Metroad 5.
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:Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
*Support as per the reasons above, which are my own. Erath 09:36, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
*Support. Timrollpickering 10:42, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move? 

message: * M5 motorway (England) → M5 motorway … Rationale: controversial move, undone via cut-and-paste … Please share your opinion at Talk:M5 motorway (England). Ewlyahoocom 19:31, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
* Oppose Seems logical to disambigulate a roadway name that is not unique and likely to be being used elsewhere. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 19:39, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Done. —Nightstallion (?) 08:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move, May 2006

message: :Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
* Oppose Seems logical to disambigulate a roadway name that is not unique and likely to be being used elsewhere. FearÉIREANN\(caint) 19:39, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. —Nightstallion (?) 08:41, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Anyone know when the roadworks on the link between M6 south and M5 will be finished?  I'm convinced that this is the cause of the M^ congestion back to J11 most evenings.  My 6 minutes (in normal times) of M6 is usually taking 30+ minutes at the moment. I can't find anything on the Highways Agency website.  TIA MikesPlant 12:49, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: October 2006 Roadworks

message: The listbox of junctions seems to be wrong.  According to it, you drive South on the M5 near Bristol, passing Jn 17 [Bristol (West) A4018 & Severn Beach B4055].  You then (apparently) get to Jn 18 [Avonmouth A4] before Jn 18a [No exit].  This seems to fit with what one actually experiences driving it.
However, going North, this is not representative.  You pass the exit for Jn 18 [Avonmouth A4] then shortly after that is the slip road for Jn 18a [SOUTH WALES, Cardiff, Newport M49].  Given there is no southbound exit at Jn 18a, but that the article is currently out of sync with the reality driving North (see ) would it not make sense to therefore swap the order of 18 and 18a?
Answers on a postcard please...
--Peeky44 20:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess you don't know the history and have not read wikipedia. The original M4 bridge, the Severn Bridge, across the Severn Estuary was (and is) linked to junction 15 on the M5 and junction 20 on the M4; but when the new crossing, the Second Severn Crossing, was build the old bridge and its approach roads were renumbered as the M48.  The new crossing was numbered M49 and two new junctions were made: junction 18a on the M5 and junction 21 on the M4. Going north on the M5 you leave at junction 18a to get onto the M49; going south on the M5 you leave at junction 20 to get onto the M48 and then leave at junction 21 to join the M49. It helps if you look at a road atlas. Pyrotec 21:40, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Peeky44 is right. As you cross the Avonmouth Bridge going north you turn off at J18 before you turn for J18A, so the order in the table is reversed. (Or at least it was as I just fixed it!) --Cheesy Mike 23:10, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Great, you have looked at an atlas. OK I was wrong about the M49, its only the southern approach road not the bridge; but I did write junction 15 on the M5 and junction 20 on the M4, above. Junction 20 on the M5 is a Clevedon; presumably you took my advice at looked at an atlas. Pyrotec (talk) 12:58, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Junction 18/18a 

message: I was surprised and disappointed to see the coordinates removed from this article with an edit sumamry of "remove travel guide info per WP:NOT", since coordinates are not a "travel guide" and consensus on WP:NOT is that coordinates are acceptable content. I trust that they will now be restored. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 22:33, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Coordinates

message: Is there any particular reason why this page sits where it does? Other countries have enormously longer and more important M5 motorways, e.g., M5 motorway (Russia). I believe M5 motorway should be reserved for a disambiguation page. --Ghirla-трёп- 17:18, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I can remember, the Russian word for motorway  is автострада, so  I  would assume the English  word to be the obvious choice for the English page about a British motorway..--Kudpung (talk) 12:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Systemic bias 

message: I feel the current construction history is not in depth enough, as it stands it implies that most of the extensions South of J8 opened in one go. Jenuk1985 (talk) 02:18, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It actually says: "it was also extended southwards, in sections, from 1967 to 1977, through Somerset, to Exeter,". Why don't you improve it, then? You will need to add the dates that the various sections opened and provide verification, e.g. in-line citations.Pyrotec (talk) 11:07, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Construction history 

message: I have made a number of changes to the Exit list layout.  In particular
* I have added distances and carriageway identifiers as taken from Driver Location SignM information (which I obtained unofficially, but which is likely to be published in the near future - the M25 information has already been published).
* I have added a sentence ahead of the exit list banner which provides link to both the driver location article and to other references. This makes the references easier to see (compare with changes that I made to M4_motorway).
* I have moved the co-ordinate information to a separate section, but left links in the table.  A few weeks ago I left a note that I wished to do this in the M6_motorway talk page, but had no response.  The rationale behind this move is to reduce the width of the junction list so that other columns can be wider.  An added advantage is that a better description can be added to each coordinate
* I have added non-breaking spaces to a number of items such as destinations that consist of two or more words or between destinations and road numbers.
* I have moved the names of the services from the junction into the destination list.  As with coordinates, this will reduce the width of the junction list.  It will also allow for caveats to be added such as "No HGV's", "Northbound carriageway only", "Opening March 2010" etc.  The junction list will just contain the word "Services".
Unless there is anything patently wrong with the above, may I respectfully request that these changes be discussed before anything is reverted.  Once there is consensus, I will retrofit this to all other articles to which I have added driver location sign information. Martinvl (talk) 20:01, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Driver Location Sign and other updates 

message: This article should be moved back. GoodDay (talk) 21:34, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure you are aware of the requested move process by now. Though I suspect any further ones may be seen as disruptive. Jeni (talk) 21:46, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: How many of these M# motorway articles are requested for movement? I'm trying to track all the requests. GoodDay (talk) 21:57, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The only one listed at WP:RM as of the timestamp of this comment is the M3 (talk:M3 motorway). Additionally I have recently requested a move of the M15 to M15 motorway (Great Britain) (see talk:M15 motorway) but whichever bot updates the RM list hasn't spotted that one yet. Thryduulf (talk) 15:41, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  M5 motorway (England) 

message: The list of primary destinations in the infobox is ridiculously long - it seems to include every town and city in the midlands and south west. I suggest it should be cut down. --Simple Bob a.k.a. The Spaminator (Talk) 09:54, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overlong list of primary destinations 

message: The regional destinations are sourced as they are, leave them as is unless you can source them differently with a reliable source. Jeni (talk) 17:34, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Read MOS:CAPS and start a discussion there if you want UK roads to be granted an exception to how location names are rendered in Wikipedia articles. This isn't a USRD vs. UKRD issue, it is a Wikipedia issue. Case in point, the road sign here would say either "North" "NORTH" or "" for a direction, and a destination location would be either "Cadillac", "CADILLAC" or """, but  in all cases, per the Manual of Style, those word have to be rendered as "north" and "Cadillac" because one is a direction and one is a location. Likewise, even though British road signs use all caps, Wikipedia does not and the article needs to reflect Wikipedia style and practice, not how the sign is rendered. Imzadi 1979 →  17:43, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The section header should read "Bored of Wikipedia bulldozing again". --Rschen7754 20:40, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm "Tired of Wikipedia bullshit again". Secondarywaltz (talk) 21:05, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Bored of USRD bulldozing again

message: Traffic presumably also heads north-east. Such expressions need to be tightened to be encyclopaedic. Roads don't move but traffic does. A road extends between places, usually with traffic in both directions. Language needs to be found to reflect that reality.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.103.145 (talk) 08:54, 23 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Heading south-west

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