Talk:Securitate

message: This item comes from the log of a radio program: http://www.theworld.org/?q=node/4694
:Romania is making more than 2 million files from its former secret police available to the public. The secret police spied on just about everyone in Romania during the reign of dictator Nicolae Ceausescu. Host Lisa Mullins speaks with BBC reporter Oana Lungescu, who not only reported on the story, but examined the files that the secret police kept on her.
I imagine there is info somewhere online on who has access to what and how one gets it. We should probably mention and link something (not this radio piece, I think, or I'd have done it myself). - Jmabel | Talk 22:39, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Securitate files 

message: I've cut two items that need work:
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The remenants of the Securitate nowadays
Many former Securitate members have remained active after the revolution and have shaped many Romanian events in their favor. It is so that they managed not only to evade prosecution for the crimes. Their role in shaping Romanian politics after 1989 has been documented by historian Marius Oprea.
2. (an image caption): The former "Directia 5 securitate of Ceausescu ruin" and now a symbol of the New Romania
What's this supposed to mean? Biruitorul 03:48, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cut passages

message: It seems to me that the article is quite good down to the discussion of the different branches of the organisation, at which point there is a lot of assertion and no citation or reference.  Could we try to add some supporting evidence?  I have no doubt that the Securitate were guilty of the things mentioned, but let's do things properly and display the evidence of their wrong-doing. Iain1917 06:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations needed 

message: How many people were actually in the Securitate? I've heard estimates as high as 14% of the Romanian population in the 1980s... --Stlemur 19:50, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That 14% is a ridiculous number. But this is an interesting question. It also probably depends on what you consider "part" of Securitate, there were numerous "informers" but they were now full time employees. -- AdrianTM 20:18, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How big was it? 

message: The chapter about subdivisions / organisation of D.S.S. is not accurate and misleading. According to the Decree 130/1972 at 9th of April 1972 the Council of State Security (the coordinating political entity of D.S.S.) has been re-integrated into the Ministry of the Interior (previously became separate as of 1968-04-04) and the D.S.S. (Securitate) has been organised in 6 (six) Directorates (noted with Roman digits - to be precise), as follows:
:DIRECTORATE I - Internal Informations;
:DIRECTORATE II - Economic counter-informations;
:DIRECTORATE III - Counter-espionage;
:DIRECTORATE IV - Military counter-informations;
:DIRECTORATE V - Security and Guard Service
:DIRECTORATE VI - Criminalistic/Penal.
The Security Troops were not specifically a directorate, but organised as military units (Romanian abbrv. - UM). A particular unit was UM-0640, located in northern Bucharest's suburb of Baneasa, better known as U.S.L.A. (Rom. abbrv. approx. for Unit Specialised in Counter Terrorist Warfare). This unit was charged with counter terrorist activities in the main airports (Otopeni and Baneasa in Bucharest), as well as protection for Embassies and foreign diplomats in Bucharest.
In the text, the number given for security troops is a guess at best - the exact numbers are of course highly classified info and are not supposed to be available to the public, even today.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ervantc (talk • contribs) 15:03, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subdivisions 

message: Did Securitate had an official logo or emblem, like MFS DDR or KGB?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.190.194.119 (talk) 13:57, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Securitate did not have a specific logo/emblem. The only recognition mark could be found on the Securitate troops uniforms, as blue marks on their collars.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ervantc (talk • contribs) 04:48, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did Securitate had a logo? 

message: I think the number of Stasi-informants (IMs) is scientifically very disputed. (Because the criterias to count the inofficial employers are, to count somebody as an "informant" or  unofficial employer...)  But all in all in average I don't believe that 1 (unofficial or official) spy per 6 or 7 people is realistic.
I think, German Wikipedia has more realistic numbers: For example at the end of the regime German Wikipedia says, they were approximately 100.000 official and 200.000-250.000 unofficial employers for a population of 16 Million people.
This would be approximately one per 40 people. And this seams very much comparable to the number of agents in Romania... Maybe Romania had with 500.000 informants for only 22 Million people even more... 
And i think, the sources of German Wikipedia (I guess, Federal Commissioner for the Stasi Records or historians employed working for that agency, and so on...) are more scientific and reliable than New York Times. --Impulsiv. (talk) 20:54, 21 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  proportion: number of stasi-employers in GDR / total population - and comparison with Securitate 

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