Talk:Perpetual traveler

message: Aren't the websites given here scams or even somehow illegal (they sell passports...) ??
-Probably. I wouldn't buy anything from them. But they are informative.
Which websites given here are "scams"? I don't see any. If you know any website given in a Wikipedia article to be a scam you should flag it.
There are websites (not listed in the article) which tell people how to qualify for citizenship in various countries. There is nothing illegal in this. (For that matter, government websites of several countries explain how to qualify for citizenship.) After becoming a citizen of a country, obtaining a passport is usually straightforward.
None of the "Perpetual Traveller" material is useful to citizens of the United States, Myanmar, or Eritrea, because these three countries tax citizens regardless of where they live. All other countries tax residents only. Longitude2 (talk) 15:35, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: No references.  I suggest this is original research.  As such it is not encyclopedic and I will remove it as per WP policy.  Paul Beardsell (talk) 08:51, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Paul, thank you for raising the flag on what could have been original research! In this case, I have added some references in regards to the statement that "Perpetual travelers may attempt to organize their affairs around the 'Five Flags' theory". It is now -- as per Wikipedia policy -- based on a summary, review or synthesis of earlier publications on the subject of research. I hope that addresses the concern that you had about it being original research. Please comment if you still have concerns. Severisth (talk) 16:07, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A year and a half later, it's still POVish. Duly tagged. Daniel Case (talk) 23:41, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you provide the other point of view? I have no objection to both points of view being present. Severisth (talk) 01:33, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Five Flag Theory section 

message: Is "perpetual traveler" just a politically correct phrase for the deadbeat kind of backpacker who bought a one way ticket and never really managed to get home?CloutierFan02 (talk) 02:55, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: not usually. It generally refers more to rich nomads who can afford to have homes in multiple countries etc, than backpackers who take trains at night to avoid having to pay for somewhere to sleep. --Salvadors (talk) 04:38, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm surprised at the question.  My response: Read the article.  Paul Beardsell (talk) 20:21, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interesting 

message: This article is almost totally a quotation from W.G.Hill's literature. Hill is behind the ptshamrock.com site but is not named there in any obvious way.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.164.96.47 (talk) 14:44, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: A site which is competing with Hill, www.panamalaw.org, says the "W.G.Hill" is a pseudonym.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.164.96.47 (talk) 09:00, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The site www.panamalaw.com has been sold as a result of a legal case.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.164.96.47 (talk) 09:03, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: W.G.Hill has stopped producing his get-rich-quick book. It was based on the theory that banks will lend 100% to you for property. With the credit crisis, this is not so.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.156.62.127 (talk) 14:15, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spam 

message: If Perpetual traveller is the normal spelling, why does Perpetual traveller redirect to Perpetual traveler? Normally it has double-l146.199.70.186 (talk) 00:13, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Perpetual traveler 

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: I changed the wording "schemes" in the lead section of perpetual traveler is because in North America, the term scheme doesn't mean programme – it alludes to deception (e.g. pyramid scheme – as I'm sure most are aware). Since the idea of the PT lifestyle is already considered morally grey by some people (who view using legitimate means of avoiding obligations such as taxes to be morally bankrupt or unpatriotic), I consider that altering the word "scheme" makes it more neutral.
Also, in evaluating the sentence that my edit was a part of, it is true that some of those companies might actually market strategies that are in fact illegal. I will include that info, as well as link to the distinction between tax avoidance (legal) and tax evasion (illegal). Objections?   — TARDIS builder💬   |     08:55, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/scheme "a plan or program of action; especially : a crafty or secret one". The majority of offshore tax arrangements are both crafty and secret so the word seems quite appropriate. I think the place for the tax avoidance/evasion debate is elsewhere. I added evasion to the see also. The trouble you will have in including it here is finding a source that is reliable and makes an explicit link between PT and tax evasion/avoidance. There are very few reliable sources at all for this subject as almost everything out there is low grade.Philafrenzy (talk) 09:19, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Scheme" word choice