Talk:North American box turtle

message: I would just leave the common name, merge the page with Terrapene (keeping content for each and making a redirect), probably leaving it under this name.  Then just make some sort of explanatory note that some Asian turtles are also referred to as box turtles (and just give links to them).  Or maybe a hatnote.  Just trying to help...TCO (talk) 02:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree that most of topic, it's sources at least are about terrapene, although it's implications to the reader is that it's about all box turtles. Not sure that agreement will be reached on other parts. We will find out in time I guess. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 02:28, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  All the content except for a phrase in first sentence is about Terrapene 

message: This article contents is mainly about the terrapene and USER:L.tak is boldly changing that. Personally I'd have got consensus for such a confusing re-arrangement with many pot holes but given that the change is happening I'm updating the article accordingly. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 22:14, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amending composite article to be about terrapene 

message: What seemed very clear was that the american and the asian box turtles can not plausibly share an article as they are polyphyletic. Therefore, the article box turtle was already for 90% about one species: the american box turtle (terrapene). If that is the real main topic (rather than asian box turtle) I don't know, but for now I have changed the box turtle article to a 100% american box turtle article (for consistency sake) for now. I am open however to arguments why the the other box turtle should be the main topic...
Having done the change to the american box turtle however, it seems logic that the (short) taxonomic article with (Terrapene) be integrated in this article; and so I proposed.... Let me know what you think (but please distinguish between your comments on the integration of Terrapene in this article -whatever the name of the article-, and the question whether the american box turtle is the main topic for box turtle and should be under this name)! L.tak (talk) 23:03, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: following your advice with pleasure ;-) L.tak (talk) 23:17, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool. Anyone up for a Mud turtle? Regards, SunCreator (talk) 23:46, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: Actually a pretty decent article.  HAs content, has species.  Pretty good for a genus article.  Might want to do talk page archiving (have no idea how to put it in myself).TCO (talk) 01:58, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Have made archive and moved old talk into it. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 02:06, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  article looks good! 

message: moving this from the user page of 74.109.236.194; it's a reply to my request to explain the edits regarding parentheses... L.tak (talk) 14:07, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: that's different in from the microbiological use indeed one would probably write:
*Froggie greenus (Linnaeus, 1758) Schmoe, 1950, with other synonyms (heterotypic or homotypic) between " " or not depending on whether they have appeared on the approved list of microbiological names of 1978... I have no stance on the issue here however and will leave it up to others to decide... L.tak (talk) 14:23, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Box turtle and parentheses (continued) 

message: The article does not make a clear distinction between a turtle and a tortoise. I defer to experts to explain, but it seems to me that a tortoise lives its life almost exclusively on land. For that reason, I prefer to call them a Box Tortoise. --74.107.74.39 (talk) 22:43, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: All tortoises live on land, but not every animal that lives on land is a tortoise. e.g. a cat, hedgehog etc. In biological classification there are 14 families of turtles, see List of Testudines families of which tortoise is only one. The box turtles (Terrapene) are members of the Emydidae pond turtles. There is no basis to call them tortoise except a misconception. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 14:37, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: More or less; SunCreator's right in that the term "tortoise" is, in terms of taxonomical classification, usually reserved to the one family. And while common language may be less precise in this matter, and these land dwellers are sometimes called "box tortoises", they are primarily found in North America, where the default is to call all shelled reptiles "turtles", so the term "box turtle" is almost universally used for them. In short, the term "tortoise" is a vague term in common language, not always used, while in scientific classification, it's very specific, and doesn't include box turtles. oknazevad (talk) 15:00, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turtle or Tortoise? 

message: "The single location where Coahuilan box turtles are found is a 360 km2 region characterized by marches, permanent presence of water and several types of cacti." 
Should this read "marshes" not "marches"? 
Jornadigan (talk) 17:14, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Corrected. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 18:17, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Habitat question  

message: The North American "Distribution of the four species of Terrapene" map doesn't show any box turtles in Canada, yet it is fairly well known that they are fairly common in Southern Ontario.   I don't have the editing skills to edit the map however.
 Hmm, it does seem kind of odd their range would stop exactly at the United States border with Canada.  My information on that, however, is lacking.  All I know is that Eastern box turtles are common here in South Carolina.  Apparently, when I lived in the midwest, we had Ornate box turtles where I lived but I never saw them.  Anyway, if you can find some reliable sources saying that they live in Canada (I have no doubt they do) and which species or subspecies, I am sure someone will be glad to add the information Adam (talk) 14:10, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Box turtles are in Canada too 

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