Talk:Mike Tyson/Archive 2

message: I'm going to substantially trim the trivia section and move the cameos/parodies into a new article. The pop culture references are unbalancing the article. Trivia sections are discouraged nowadays. --Eqdoktor 03:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WP:BLP, I have removed the trivia section and integrated the more relevant items from that section into the main article.
Biographies of living persons should not have trivia sections. Relevant notable sourced claims should be woven into the article. Trivia can go on the talk page as a staging ground. Eventualism is deprecated on BLP articles. 
--Eqdoktor 06:18, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia and cameo/parodies section 

message: Okay I'm passing this GA, I'm going to go through and make a couple of corrections to grammar. I'll leave some notes in a second. Quadzilla99 13:24, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, it needs to list that many sportswriters have a hard time ranking him because (due to no fault of his own mind you) he fought in such a weak era during his prime that it's hard to rank him against other greats who fought and defeated other all-time greats. For instance Ruddock who gave Tyson problems, was dusted in like two minutes by Lewis, other writers have pointed that out. Also I toned down some potential POV that was in there and tweaked some grammar, descriptions like "fabulous defensive skills" even if true are frowned upon here. Overall the article is slightly pro-Tyson. I added it here for an FA push, they should be able to help you out. Also, I fixed the format see Michael Jordan or Wayne Gretzky the boxes go at the bottom. The career achievements or list of a accomplishments sections doesn't use those boxes, it's usually prose or a bulleted list. Nice work overall though keep it up. Quadzilla99 13:45, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA passing 

message: It's nonsense using Tyson's weight to determine whether he is in shape or not. Commentors simply looked at the definition in his body as his weight fluctuated from performance to the fight night because of the training prior to the bouts and his fluid levels. Kevin Rooney claims he would have fasted before the bout and dried out. I don't know why heavyweights would do that but it seems like an old school boxing technique Cus may have used and I know Foreman would dehydrate himself before his fights in his early career.    —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.77.164.244 (talk) 13:56, 3 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Out of Shape 

message: The article says Mike was considered, in his prime, among the greatest heavyweights of all time. This applies to any heavyweight boxer like George Foreman, Ali, Frazier, Holmes and anyone else you can name. It's redundant information.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.77.165.103 (talk) 12:55, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nonsense wording 

message: Under the nicknames section, as a long time Tyson historian who met Tyson in 1983, I never heard him have the monikor "face breaker" or "IRON MIKE" but he was marketed as "mighty mike" during 1985 and early 86. That is something that needs to be corrected and included in the nicknames section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.202.218.32 (talk) 13:50, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nicknames 

message: The first section says he won his first 19 fights by KO, 12 in the first round.  Another section says he won 26 or his first 28 fights by KO, 16 in the first round.  Amnion (talk) 22:06, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  19 or 26? 12 or 16? 

message: According to http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/inside_game/mike_fish/news/2002/06/11/fish_mailbag/ as well as http://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=2431583&page=1 and http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_qn4155/is_19991028/ai_n13841383 there is talk of Tyson having been diagnosed with, or at least suspected of having qualities similar to, bipolar disorder. I think this warrants at least a mention in the article.Killridemedly (talk) 08:24, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bipolar 

message: This appears to be completely one sided. There was massive press coverage of how sly, manipulative and deceitful his first wife was. Many close to Tyson at the time of his first marriage cited the influence of Given and her mother as major causes for the downfall of Tyson. Instead all this information is omitted and we have a one sided view of things.
:Please add some referenced information about his first marriage.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 09:07, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tyson and his first marriage as a symbol of the ugly bias that runs through the article 

message: Everything positive that happens is immediately followed by massive criticism. It's as if Tyson doesn't have the right to be uncontroversial. The article appears to bend over backwards to find critical things about Tyson. For instance, when he is awarded an honorary degree, that criticism is voiced when any celebrity is given such an award by an academic institution. Yet it is cited as somehow unique to Tyson by the very fact that such a general criticism is mentioned in a piece about Tyson receiving this honorary degree. I have read numerous articles on Wikipedia about celebrities who  receive such awards, yet it is never mentioned in those articles. 
I have now just read the source and surprise surprise there is no academic in particular that criticizes Tyson's award. The article was about awards in general. And the only direct reference to Tyson was from a student! And she also criticized Nicholas Cage being given an award. This is absolutely ridiculous and should be removed immediately. I will do it myself actually and if you have problems with it, just read the article and then the source!
Fits in well with the general tenor of this article which is an elaborate smear campaign against Tyson. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edwardosaido (talk • contribs) 05:39, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tyson and the honorary degree 

message: This is a manifest falsehood. If you actually look at note 44 it was Tyson who relinquished the title. This was as a result of a prior agreement between representatives of Lenox Lewis and Tyson.
I corrected this.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 08:36, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tyson being stripped of his WBC title after the Seldon fight 

message: There are no statistics here. What was Mike's height and weight when he was fighting? His reach, and chest size? I know these stats change over time, but even providing them for one moment in his career helps describe him has an athlete. -- Mikeblas 22:19, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing 

message: What the hell? thats funny but unbelieveable as Sylvester the Cat toons stopped being made one year before mike was born, is that wiki vandalism? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.138.11.187 (talk) 07:41, June 6, 2007
:WP:DFTT. Regards, SeveroTC 10:07, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sylvester the cat 

message: Tyson was NOT convicted of Rape, he was convicted of Sexual Assault.
mpa  21:12, July 5, 2007
:The citation seems both reliable and secure. WP:BLP requires a high level of accuracy on this kind of information, the citation is key... SeveroTC 01:31, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Check out the Indiana Offender Database. It says "rape". How's that for a source? Brainscar 10:59, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tyson's rape conviction? 

message: I think that the Tyson disambiguation link should be removed from the top of the page.  Anybody searching "Mike Tyson" is not confused looking for somebody else named Tyson.  129.22.126.155 23:08, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tyson disambiguation 

message: It doesn't matter what the sources say if they are just copying the wrong information. The best source is Mike himself, who has said his correct height. Mike Tyson's Height is 178 cm. source  http://www.celebheights.com/s/Mike-Tyson-1161.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.214.163.250 (talk) 08:11, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth". Its not intuitive but thats Wikipedia for you... --Eqdoktor 10:27, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mike Tyson stats - tale of the tape 

message: I don't agree with 5ft 11.5 as being Mike Tyson's height. I look at the source they have used in the article, which is a youtube video. In the video, Tyson is not even standing properly or close to the scale. We all know that Mike Tyson is short and being 5ft 11.5 ( 180cm) is far past the average height. He is shorter than that. He is around 5'9" or at most 5'10". But not more than that. Allen Iverson is only 6ft and he's way taller than Mike Tyson. So how do you explain that? Tyson said himself that he considered himself a midget, so why would he say that if he really is 5'11.5". I urge this part of the article to be revised thoroughly and his height rectified.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.125.195.119 (talk) 15:35, August 30, 2007 (UTC)
:Haven't we settled this already.  Numerous sources (including the tale of the tape before most of Tyson's fights) present Mike Tyson's height at 5'11.5".  He is not a short person.  He appears to be shorter because of his stocky build.  Also consider most of Tyson's opponents are well over 6'0.  So in Mike's world maybe he is a midget.  In the real world he is 5'11.5".  --DreamsAreMadeOf 23:18, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great.  A verifiable source?  Your interpretation of Tyson's purported claims with no reference falls short of verifiable (no pun intended).  We can debate forever what Tyson's "true" height is.  It is about what information you can verify with accurate sources.  The vast majority of sources list Mike at 5'11.5".--DreamsAreMadeOf (talk) 05:05, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tyson's height 

message: Tyson went to court in late august. WHAT HAPPEND!??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.83.120.99 (talk) 17:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No news showing up on Google. My guess is that it has been postponed or the case has had a continuance .--Eqdoktor 09:58, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Court 

message: Could somebody please edit that Tyson punch was tested on year 2002 before match with Lennox Lewis and it was 7000 Newtons and had 85 % chance of causing brain damage. Here is the source: http://ps2.gamezone.com/news/05_20_02_08_21PM.htm  —Preceding unsigned comment added by UncleSamPatriot (talk • contribs) 23:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tyson's punch force 

message: Any reliable information that can be presented about Tyson allegedly breaking his back?  Doesn't seem likely, but he admits this himself in a post-fight interview.  I'm guessing he was exaggerating.  See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rw47gXsDwjw
--1000Faces (talk) 21:24, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken back? 

message: "Tyson unified the belts in the splintered heavyweight division in the late 1980s" needs to be re-worded. Buc (talk) 18:53, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: When Tyson came along, the main heavyweight belts (WBA, WBC, IBF), were all held by different fighters. He defeated each of the holders in turn, unifying the championship again. SteveO (talk) 23:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I don't understand this 

message: what was the story about his pet who was killed when he was a young man? i think this story brought a sensitive side to mike which is lacking in this whole article. although very controversial, mike tyson was not as cold-blooded as he is made out to be.
p.s. redacted per WP:BLP by Jons63 (talk) 02:53, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  His pet that was killed 

message: Is this a record for heavyweights or all pro fighters?  Is it a record from the start of a pro career?  Did Marciano hold the record?--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 22:33, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Heavyweight LaMar Clark had 43 straight wins by stoppage after winning his first fight on points. --LiamE (talk) 23:19, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

text: From the start of a career its not a heavyweight record, I had a quick look at likely candidate and the second one I looked at, Earnie Shavers had 27 straight KO's from the start of his career. --LiamE (talk) 23:41, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

text: From what I've seen lately on t.v. Mike Tyson broke Rocky Marciano's record of 16 consecutive knockouts, now Mike Tyson's record could have been broken byLamar Clark or Earnie Shavers but Mike Tyson did break Marciano's record. The K.O. King (talk) 22:34, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: TV is not always right. Check out Earnie Shavers and [LaMar Clark] to see the problem with your hypothesis. Their knockout streaks ended before Tyson's started.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 07:01, 15 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I know TV is not always right I just don't know much about Earnie Shavers. I do know Tyson beat Marciano's record though. The K.O. King (talk) 01:34, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

text: How could it be when Shavers has a better record, created before Tyson fought? --LiamE (talk) 23:42, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Record consecutive knockouts? 

message: The sentence that begins "His aggressive, intimidating..." in the 2nd para of version [] is engaging and captures what made him notable.  It's a bit peacockish, but is there any interest in polishing and sourcing this so it can be included?--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 06:30, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You make a good point.  I removed it earlier.  Feel free to put it back.  Tyson's intimidation was a huge part of his success.  --DreamsAreMadeOf (talk) 13:55, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  His aggressive, intimidating... 

message: The recent additions about Tyson's family need some clean-up and improved referencing.  Some of the additions are good but some of these thing don't belong in the article (ex. names of his niece and nephews).  Where do we draw the line on what to include?--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 01:28, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct; there should be limits on what to put in an article. For many years no one was aware of the relationship and support that Mike sibling provided. It was like his family did not exist. I have followed Mike's career for awhile and wanted to bring a human side to him and I think mentioning his family lets readers know that there is more to Mike Tyson then what the media portrays. He has family nieces, nephews, and siblings, who cares and love him as Mike Tyson the uncle, brother and not Mike Tyson the boxer.--Ladytysonfan (talk) 18:54, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tyson's family 

message: Mike Tyson's 19 consecutive knockout record is for knockouts by a heavyweight champion to start a career. I saw it on an ESPN Mike Tyson dvd. Earnie Shavers had 27 consecutive knockouts but was not a heavyweight champion. The K.O. King (talk) 01:23, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Tyson does not hold the record for most consecutive knockouts at the start of a career by someone who was eventually a heavyweight champion.  That mark is held by Vitali Klitschko, who started his career 27-0 with 27 knockouts.  He was WBC champ from 2004 until 2005 (and also WBO champ, if you consider that relevant). The streak ended in 2000 when his fight with Chris Byrd was stopped due to a shoulder injury.  For source, see  Klitschko's boxrec page  or this article on another boxer who fell short of tying the mark . Anson2995 (talk) 18:02, 5 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I don't think that is notable enough to be included in the article.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 17:45, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with SaskatchewanSenator, it is not a notable record.  --DreamsAreMadeOf (talk) 23:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Thanks--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 22:01, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Record consecutive knockouts 2 

message: Why no mention of his participation with the WWF? 67.68.39.194 (talk) 16:14, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's in this article: Mike Tyson in popular culture.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 22:04, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WWF 

message: Should we mention that Mike Tyson was the youngest man to lose the Heavyweight title? The K.O. King (talk) 22:18, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess it could be important.  It would be an easy edit. . . "youngest man to win and lose a heavyweight title"  I am almost certain he was the youngest to lose the title, but a source would help.  Thanks.  --DreamsAreMadeOf (talk) 01:29, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Youngest man to lose the Heavyweight crown 

message: Most sources of Tyson's career record list this Feb. 16, 1986 fight as a 6 round TKO.  The article Mike Tyson#Rise to stardom explains the circumstances of the stoppage and eventual ruling (although it is unsourced). BoxRec says "the official result given by the New York State Athletic Commission is a TKO." I think the boxing record should list the result as a TKO.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 23:17, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  I changed the article to reflect 19 kos.  --DreamsAreMadeOf (talk) 01:09, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

text: The table will need to be changed too. I was going to wait a little longer for comments.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 16:49, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and changed it because the article has been bouncing back and forth between 17 and 19.  I never knew the reason people were changing it.  I believe the table is correct with 44 kos though.  Thanks.--DreamsAreMadeOf (talk) 01:25, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Result of Jesse Ferguson fight 

message: Is a mug shot appropriate for the main image on this page?  I am not really sure what the guidelines are about this.  Any thoughts? —Preceding unsigned comment added by DreamsAreMadeOf (talk • contribs) 15:35, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: I remember in the late 1980's hearing on TV or reading in the papers about Mike Tyson's Grandfather being a Kirkpatrick or Kilpatrick and from Wexford, Ireland? Then I read this article and see that his father was a Kirkpatrick. I think it is important about background, after all we dont take after strangers, we take after our ancestors (our parents, our grandparents, our great grandparents, etc) - Culnacréann-(talk) 13:19, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish connection? 

message: "Without Rooney, Tyson's skills quickly deteriorated and he became more prone to looking for the one-punch knockout, rather than using the combinations that brought him to stardom.[23] He also began to head-hunt, neglecting to attack the opponent's body first.[24] In addition, he lost his defensive skills and began to barrel straight in toward the opponent, neglecting to jab and slip his way in.[25]" 
It is sourced but it doesn't read like an encyclopedia article at all.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.65.124.18 (talk) 00:32, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this appropriate for Wiki? 

message: What is this edit about Tyson being "co-inventor of the Hepatitis C Virus" in the first papragraph?  I think the original source needs to be recited and edited.--Behaelter (talk) 05:44, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible vandalism? 

message: There ought to be more about Tyson's conversion to Islam. I am certain that if he was a (good) role model, wikipediers wouldn't shy away from his conversion.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Lacarids (talk • contribs) 01:58, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Convert to Islam 

message: Should be in chronological order. Somebody care to change that? --perelly (talk) 21:14, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fighting record 

message: This is a great article, it could easily become a Featured Article. I recommend that it be put up for peer review and then to WP:FAC. NancyHeise  talk 00:48, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It was just demoted from the list of good articles, I suggest holding off the peer review for now. --Amalthea 23:44, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA 

message: There is a section on Paul Danford that is uncited. I am skeptical of a Danford beating Tyson in a bar fight. Please cite the source or fix this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sp0 (talk • contribs) 23:31, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That section was already thrown out a half hour before your comment. You might have seen a cached version of it. Thanks for keeping your eyes open! Cheers, Amalthea 23:43, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paul Danford 

message: In the Legacy section of this article it states "In Ring Magazine's list of the 80 Best Fighters of the Last 80 Years, released in 2002, Tyson was ranked at #72."  However, upon clicking the link associated with this statement, he is listed as 66.  Clarification please? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Asdfaeou36 (talk • contribs) 16:14, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legacy rank error? 

message: Why was his professional record removed from the article?--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 07:26, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Tyson's entire record is found at the boxrec link.  It is redundant to add the record here.  --DreamsAreMadeOf (talk) 17:51, 13 March 2009 (UTC)

text: I cannot access the boxrec link. So please re add the professional record. Also having it in wikipedia makese better sense because you can go to the opponents pages just by  clicking link. Boxrec link has never been accessible to me. They seem to have some network or bad gateway problem and not accessible across the globe. I request to please re enable the professional record.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sjmittal (talk • contribs) 20:08, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Professional boxing record 

message: Its not clear from the article why his last name is Tyson since the article states that neither of his parents had the last name Tyson. Does anybody know why this is the case? If so they should add it to the article since its confusing.Chhe (talk) 15:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Years before Mike Tyson's birth, his mother married Purcell Tyson; mother and Purcell divorced; mother retained surname Tyson. Mother had Tyson by Jimmy Kirkpatrick. Mother never married Kirkpatrick, who abandoned his son. Tyson's birth certificate states his father was Purcell, even though he wasn't. Best name (talk) 05:58, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear naming 

message: Hope someone enters this into the main article soon. It's not every day you lose a four-year-old child.  Deepest condolences and blessings to "Iron" Mike and his entire family over the tragic and heartbreaking loss of his little daughter, Exodus. DonL (talk) 07:29, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It is in the Personal life section of the article. Best name (talk) 13:21, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death of his young child 

message: Someone fix his name and record.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.127.231.36 (talk) 17:19, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What exactly are you claiming is incorrect? Information yes (talk) 05:46, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fix 

message: Get a better picture of Tyson at the top of the page. It looks like a badly taken photo. I think there should be picture of him as the dominating boxer that he was, it's a better representation of him than the older, tired-looking Tyson in the photo.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.127.120 (talk) 19:33, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: No mention of his cameo appearance in the film The Hangover? TheHYPO (talk) 06:43, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That is in Mike Tyson in popular culture--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 19:28, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hangover? 

message: The article writes:"He is ranked #16 on Ring Magazine's list of 100 greatest punchers of all time".Where's this list?Who are the otheres?How big is this list?Agre22 (talk) 13:17, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I did a search and found various reprints of the list.  Here's one.    I can't find the original online, but all the reprints are consistant.  It would probably be good if someone with access to the print article could add the reference info.--Cube lurker (talk) 14:48, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where's the list? 

message: A pivotal moment in his career was his decision to split with Bill Cayton and sign with Don King. Tyson was closer to Cayton's partner and co-manager, Jimmy Jacobs, who died sometime before this momentous decision and felt King could offer him better terms. King persuades Tyson not to trust Whites and hence, dump Kevin Rooney, who helped Tyson hone his craft after D'Amato's death, firstly with Teddy Atlas, then on his own. http://www.webcitation.org/mainframe.php  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.9.194 (talk) 05:07, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  King persuades Tyson to dump Kevin Rooney, not to trust Whites 

message: Tyson showed financial support for Camille Ewald until her death in 2001, aged 96 http://www.webcitation.org/mainframe.php  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.97.9.194 (talk) 05:15, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tyson supported D'Amato's partner until her death 

message: Seeing the difference that a week of semi-protection made, makes me wonder if this article should be permanently semi-protected. The vandalism that provoked that temporary semi-protection is typical.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 10:49, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protection? 

message: Did someone vandalize the page or am I missing something...?70.251.230.160 (talk) 03:08, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who is "maecus barden"? 

message: I was absolutely disgusted to read the content of the Tyson page devoted to his conviction for raping Desiree Washington.
Why did they omit the fact that Washington left the hotel room with two types of STDs and internal injuries after her ordeal? No woman asks for this. 
What do the writers mean by Washington's "history of leading men on"?  What exactly constitutes "leading men on"? 
What these people fail to understand is this. Supposing Washington did want to have sexual intercourse with Tyson at his hotel room that night. This does not give the green light for any man (famous or not) to inflict sexual violence upon another human being.
Don't these men have daughters?
Not all rapes happen in dark alleys at 3 am. 
I had considered funding Wikipedia - I will not now.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leamington spa 2 (talk • contribs) 10:57, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The writer/s of his biography are apologists for rape 

message: Please correct the ending date of his marriage to Robin Givens. This article states "His first marriage was to actress Robin Givens from February 7, 1988 to February 14, 1988.[27]" The article goes on to state "Matters came to a head when Tyson and Givens gave a joint interview with Barbara Walters on the ABC TV newsmagazine show 20/20 in September 1988...". The date of reference 27 is the NYT June 2, 1989 which says the couple was officially divorced yesterday. That would make the marriage ending June 1, 1989. Thank you  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.234.12.79 (talk) 18:23, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marriage to Givens 

message: Neutrality dispute and inappropriate tone tags were added to the Professional boxing record section, in April. Please identify the specific concerns.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 06:18, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems whoever added it failed to specify, therefore I'm removing Zarcadia (talk) 17:14, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality and inappropriate tone in Professional boxing record section 

message: Mike Tyson v.s Jesse Ferguson: 
Mike won when Ferguson was disqualified for clenching, and not following the referee's direction when asked to release Tyson from his grip, not by Technical Knock Out. Ironically this fight ended Tyson's Knock Out streak at the time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.67.134.77 (talk) 13:28, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Results for Mike Tyson v.s Jesse Ferguson 

message: Hi.
Wouldn't it be better like this? 
"Tyson is considered one of the greatest heavyweight boxers of all time" Kvsh5 (talk) 08:21, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Tyson is considered to have been one of the greatest heavyweight boxers of all time" 

message: This article needs to discuss if Tyson boxed as a southpaw, switched, or what. --1000Faces (talk) 01:54, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Southpaw? 

message: Tyson was inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame today.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.179.34.36 (talk) 18:37, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hall of Fame 

message: What were the reasons why Tyson went from fighting on HBO to Showtime? Perhaps a minor point, but might be worth mentioning in the article.69.112.90.253 (talk) 20:35, 12 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Showtime 

message: Hello
I am writing as a representative of CWH Promotions Ltd, who manage Mike Tyson in all territories outside the US.
www.cwhpromotions.co.uk
The official Mike Tyson website (which has been approved by Mike, his wife Kiki and team) is now at -
www.officialtyson.com
Could you please add this to the links section and remove out-of-date links. Both ourselves and the Tysons would be grateful if this could be done as soon as possible.
Thank you very much in advance
Stewart Howe
CWH Promotions Ltd
Metroplex Promotions Ltd
Boxing Promotions Ltd
British Boxing Hall of Fame (R)
www.officialtyson.com
www.officialbenn.com
www.legendsofboxing.com  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Officialtyson (talk • contribs) 08:56, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Mike Tyson website 

message: I was gonna rip out his heart. I'm the best eva! I'm the most brutal and the most vicious and most rufless champion there's eva been! THERES NOONE CAN STOP ME! Lennox is a conqueror? NO! I'm Alexander. He's no Alexander. I'm the best eva! Theres neva' been anybody as rufless! I'm Sonny Listen, I'm Jack Dempsey. Theres no one like me! I'm from their cloth. Theres no one that can match me. My Style is Impetuous! My Defense is Impregnable! And I'm just Ferocious! I want your heart! I want to eat his Children! Praise be to Allah! Djole93bg (talk) 00:09, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Best boxer quote ever. 

message: I totally disagree with the picture of Mike Tyson.I think a champ of Mike Tysons valor deserves a better picture.I will search and replace this one in a couple of days.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Neohertz (talk • contribs) 03:37, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture of Mike Tyson 

message: His fight against Nelson was won after 30 seconds of Round 2.
I have no here at Wiki, so i cannot edit the article. I have access to all fights in Mike's professional career, and counted the 2nd round against Conroy Nelson to last 30 seconds before KO.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.107.48.9 (talk) 21:57, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mike Tyson VS Conroy Nelson 

message: In a recent centerstage interview Mike Tyson says his favourite career moment was Buster Douglas.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.104.147.198 (talk) 16:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Favourite Career Moment 

message: I'm no expert on boxing but I noticed that under the "Peek-a-Boo (boxing style)" page Tyson is listed as being one of the greatest examples of the style where as in his page he is listed as fighting in the orthodox style. Can someone shed some light on the subject.
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to Jjcon1 - Please make sure to sign off each post by ending it with 4 tildes. 
To answer your question: Peek a boo refers to the boxing style where the hands are kept up high covering the cheeks and staying level with the nose when in guard and circling or when being in close to an opponent and trying to hit without being hit. Orthodox stance refers to your body's positioning as a whole while administering punches or being on the offensive, more intricately involving your footwork and which hand you lead with when you punch. Tyson was an orthodox fighter so when he threw his jab, it would be with his leading hand, his left, while he also had his left foot forward. So basically a fighter can stylistically fight peek a boo but he will always have a dominant hand and that will determine whether he is an orthodox fighter (lead with left foot and hand) or a southpaw (lead with right foot and hand), this means that both peek a boo and orthodox can coexist and not be dominant over one another.  
I hope this clarifies. 
--Eidetic Man (talk) 12:38, 17 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orthodox or Peek-a-Boo 

message: In the boxing record portion, Tyson's victory over Ferguson is listed as a TKO and needs to be changed to a DQ. I say this because I just watched the fight on ESPN. Ferguson was DQ'd for holding. Thank you.
72.9.23.90 (talk) 05:08, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Ferguson was initially DQ'd but according to this the official result was a TKO. And according to this Tyson's camp got the result changed to a TKO on the grounds that the DQ broke his KO streak and that Ferguson was on the verge of being stopped anyway. SteveO (talk) 15:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. Interesting discussion here. Please work on establishing consensus first, then feel free to start  again. Thanks.—C45207 | Talk 00:36, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 72.9.23.90, 6 March 2011 

message: He's described as follows: "Tyson is considered to have been one of the BETTER heavyweight boxers of all time..."  As I'm certain there have been more than two boxers in history, this should be changed to "...BEST heavyweight boxers..."  - assuming it's sufficiently factual to state this at all (any citation available, for example?).142.162.33.181 (talk) 03:05, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening section 

message: how come there's no section about his relationship with the WWF/E? at least post the themes he used back then, especially the one he used when Vince introduced him before WM14. 66.108.211.43 (talk) 13:21, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  guys 

message: Mike Tyson was in a dance TV show in Argentina in 2011. http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true&mediaKey=f618e6e3-a0fc-456d-9d6d-beee2e03b469&isShareURL=true Rauterkus (talk) 14:24, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dancer 

message: In the article's "early years" section it states that Tyson was introduced to D'Amato after Stewart saw his potential. However, before stating that, it is mentioned that D'Amato became his legal guardian after his mother passed away. Truth be told, i don't know anything about Tyson life other than the fact that he was a boxer but there seems to be something wrong here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.136.139.30 (talk) 20:39, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem in Early Years 

message: In the statistics section, there is a header that says "nicknames" (the box at the top of the article on the right hand side). This list of nicknames correctly includes "Iron Mike" and "The Baddest Man on the Planet," but it doesn't include "Kid Dynamite," a nickname more famous than "The Baddest Man on the Planet." Here is a link for you:  http://www.thesimon.com/magazine/articles/old_issues/0031_remember_mike_kid_dynamite_tyson_when_was_king.html  
You should include it!  CaptainNicodemus (talk) 16:16, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Kid Dynamite" Nickname 

message: I wonder is it worth adding this after the Etienne fight? I know its only claimed but its a pretty big claim to make  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.141.196.178 (talk) 16:25, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You would need a reliable source on the claim, for a start. Please sign your comments with four tildes ("~~~~"). Thank you, Bielle (talk) 16:30, 5 January 2012 (UTC)

text: Thanks would the post fight interview be enough? I'll check it again on youtube later 82.141.196.178 (talk) 13:35, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What kind of back injury?....Spinal 

message: Lakiha not Lahika. Yes, I have a lot of spare time right now. 92.19.37.146 (talk) 23:19, 7 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misspelt Tyson's wife's name 

message: This sounds kind of strange, like the main issue was not the disrespect towards a woman, but rather the fact that it was 'interracial'. I'm not native speaker, so I'm not going to make any changes, cause I'm not really sure if I'm right here.
Lordkosmos (talk) 01:41, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interracial sex 

message: Tyson has a video and film career. Lots of attention for his portrayal of Herman Cain early in the 2011-12 Republican primary campaigns. Noted appearances in the "Hangover" films led to his tattoo artist's controversial lawsuit, for uncredited use of his art. He's working on other comedy projects. Why isn't there a section about this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Efraimkeller (talk • contribs) 17:34, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Acting? 

message: This article talks Briefly about Mike Tyson in 1998's Royal Rumble, Monday Night Raw or Wrestle Mania. I would like to add this information. It was very significant as it turned the tides for a whole sports industry.  
The year was 1998 – WWE and WCW were embroiled in a bitter war over Monday Night Television supremacy – at this point, WCW was far in the lead, having beaten WWE in the ratings since June 1996.
 
WWE was looking for a way to combat Hulk Hogan and the nWo, who were generating big numbers for Ted Turner’s TV property.
 
Enter the “Baddest Man on the Planet”.
 
Following an appearance at the 1998 Royal Rumble, Tyson appeared on RAW and Steve Austin welcomed him to WWE in his own special way. WWE.com called this incident the 5th most memorable RAW moment in history. Despite losing in the ratings that week, this would mark the first time since 1996 that RAW would garner a 4.0 rating. Lots of mainstream attention, including multiple news outfits, came from “the shove heard ’round the world”.
 
Tyson would appear again on March 2 of that year, mere weeks before WrestleMania, where HBK ripped off his shirt to reveal a DX shirt underneath, adding an extra plot line going into the championship match between champion Shawn Michaels and challenger Steve Austin. This edition garnered a 3.8 rating, the highest rating since Tyson’s last appearance in January. Slowly but surely, WWE was catching up to WCW in the ratings.
 
19,000+ filled the Fleet Center in Boston to witness the “Stone Cold” era begin, with Mike Tyson counting the final three count to see Austin claim the WWE Championship for the first time. IMDB lists Tyson as being paid three million dollars for his WrestleMania 14 appearance, which produced the most number of North American Pay Per View buys (730,000) since WrestleMania 5 (767,000). In comparison, the previous year’s WrestleMania drew an all time Mania low of 237,000 buys.
 
Two weeks after WrestleMania 14 on April 6, RAW would finally topple Nitro in the ratings by .1 point. A week later, RAW would score a more decisive victory, with the highly anticipated main event of Steve Austin vs Vince McMahon, “with one arm tied behind your back!” as McMahon would order Austin. The match was interrupted by Mick Foley and never began, but the hype delivered ratings success.
 
There is no question that the Attitude Era, led by “Stone Cold” Steve Austin and his challenges with Mr. McMahon is the #1 cause for RAW reclaiming their top spot in the Monday Night Wars (which they held from November 1998 until the WCW purchase in March 2001). But Mike Tyson with his appearances and lending his name and star power helped greatly, as the numbers indicate.
  
SOURCE----- http://blogs.thescore.com/aftermath/2012/01/30/why-mike-tyson-is-important-in-wwe-history/
Blackrane86 (talk) 17:36, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  WWF/WWE 1998 

message: What is the name that Mike Tyson holds now?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.247.254.226 (talk) 12:26, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of Mike Tyson? 

message: Sorry it's late, but this is for Jahalive about my changes.
As I said in the history, what's 'major?' location? A City? State? Country? Continent? It's smart to have a location linked per major content key.
I think "Heavyweight" and "Champion" should be capitalized if it's refering to an official rank, such as "WBC Heavyweight Champion"
My version also fixes some grammer:
Mine: "his behavior made him unlikable to the jury, who saw him as brutish and arrogant"
Yours: "his behavior made him unlikable to the jury who saw him as brutish and arrogant"
M: "Further testimony came from Thomas Richardson, the emergency room physician who examined Washington more than 24 hours after the incident, who confirmed that Washington's physical condition was consistent with rape."
Y: "Further testimony came from Thomas Richardson, the emergency room physician who examined Washington more than 24 hours after the incident and confirmed that Washington's physical condition was consistent with rape."
M: "Though Tyson has been reputed to have been out of shape for this fight, he in fact weighed in at 220 and 1/2 pounds"
Y: "Though Tyson has been reputed to have been out of shape for this fight, in fact he weighed in at 220 and 1/2 pounds"
I could go on.
Also, I want to put my changes back on the Lennox Lewis page also. 
Regards, 
--TheShadowCrow (talk) 00:40, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't worry about being late, there is no deadline!--Jahalive (talk) 19:53, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

text: Well, I think we should have at least one link to Los Angeles. Why don't you want that linked?--TheShadowCrow (talk) 00:38, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: A link to Los Angeles is against the guideline WP:OVERLINK. It can be presumed to be known by almost all readers, and is not particularly relevant to the topic of the article.--Jahalive (talk) 19:42, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

text: And I don't think USA Today would know much about caps in boxing titles. The World Boxing Association or World Boxing Council would be better to decide this. The WBA capitalizes the weightclass and "Champion" and the WBC does not, though I think we should note that the WBC is run by people who either don't speak English as a first language or don't speak English at all :) But I'll discuss it on that page you linked. If I can get approval to capitalize titles, would you have any problem with that? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 00:38, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If there is a consensus on how to do the caps of titles I'll go along with it.--Jahalive (talk) 19:42, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

text: I agree, 'Heavyweight' and 'Champion' shouldn't be capitalised as per WP:CAPS. --Jimbo[online] 22:03, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  My changes 

message: I don't have a problem with most of the geographic links you're adding to this article, but I don't think we need a link to Los Angeles. I think it was the Lennox Lewis article that some links were against the guideline.--Jahalive (talk) 19:34, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I think we should have at least one link to Los Angeles. Why don't you want that linked?--TheShadowCrow (talk) 00:38, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: A link to Los Angeles is against the guideline WP:OVERLINK. It can be presumed to be known by almost all readers, and is not particularly relevant to the topic of the article.--Jahalive (talk) 19:42, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to geographic locations 

message: This issue is bigger than this one article. I think you should discuss it somewhere like Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Boxing. I disagree with captialising "Heavyweight" and "Champion." This  is an example of proper capitalisation.--Jahalive (talk) 19:34, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: And I don't think USA Today would know much about caps in boxing titles. The World Boxing Association or World Boxing Council would be better to decide this. The WBA capitalizes the weightclass and "Champion" and the WBC does not, though I think we should note that the WBC is run by people who either don't speak English as a first language or don't speak English at all :) But I'll discuss it on that page you linked. If I can get approval to capitalize titles, would you have any problem with that? --TheShadowCrow (talk) 00:38, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If there is a consensus on how to do the caps of titles I'll go along with it.--Jahalive (talk) 19:42, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

text: I agree, 'Heavyweight' and 'Champion' shouldn't be capitalised as per WP:CAPS. --Jimbo[online] 22:03, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalisation 

message: There is nothing wrong with the grammar in those three sentences, but I don't mind if you make those minor wording and punctuation changes.--Jahalive (talk) 19:34, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar 

message: I'm not sure why this article is protected, but there is a duplicated sentence: "Spinks, previously unbeaten, would never fight professionally again. Spinks, previously unbeaten, would never fight professionally again." Hopefully somebody able to fix the article will do so.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.78.155.105 (talk) 13:43, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed, thanks for the catch.--Cube lurker (talk) 13:47, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  duplicated sentence 

message: First paragraph - " Tyson declared bankruptcy in 2003, despite having received over US$30 million for several of his fights and $300 million during his career."
Maybe someone can edit this... the way its written makes it sound like he personally blew $300 million.  I don't know the real #s, but I'm sure a healthy chunk of that went to his managers, trainers, ESPECIALLY Don King... so Tyson couldn't have spent money he never had in the first place.  Ok, maybe I'm nitpicking.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.1.2.18 (talk) 23:39, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I think that's a very fair point. It's an inaccurate portray of the subject to imply that he was once worth much more than he ever was, worse still to imply that he blew it all. Unfortunately I don't have exact figures with which to replace it with, but I hope somebody reading this will.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.238.239 (talk) 19:42, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earnings / spending 

message: The 4th paragraph under personal life...
Mike Tyson Supports Rangers F.C. The ex-world heavyweight champion, 44, dropped in to Smackdown Gym, in Peterborough, Cambs, for a signing session and showed where his footy allegiance lies as he wore the Ibrox team’s kit. Tyson looked in good shape as he met fans but stunned diners at the city’s Bombay Brasserie curry house when he scoffed SIX courses washed down with honey tea. Iron Mike had his dishes specially cooked to vegan requirements. Meanwhile, Rangers assistant manager Ally McCoist has been voted a World Cup pet hate in the US — because they couldn’t understand his accent as a TV pundit. The Gers legend, 47, left viewers baffled with his big-match patter on satellite channel ESPN. And Coisty was then named in a Top 20 list of irritating things about the footy tournament. Mag Soccer America, which ran the poll, said: “He was incomprehensible.”
...is lifted directly and entirely from this article http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scotsol/homepage/news/3055064/Mike-Tyson-in-the-Bluenose-corner.html half the content isn't even related to Iron Mike.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.104.200.95 (talk) 13:35, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Life Passage 

message: I don't think his rape conviction should be diminished.  It is as well known as his boxing career, and nowadays seems much more controversial. It has happened and should be included in the introduction. Brain696 (talk) 23:52, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rape conviction 

message: The BBC says the "Michelle" thing is a spoof: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-20702110  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clevera (talk • contribs) 07:39, 13 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sex change hoax