Talk:John van Ruysbroeck

message: This article should be filed in Wikipedia under the main heading of "Jan van Ruysbroeck", NOT "John of Ruysbroeck".
There is no entry in Wikipedia for "Lewis from Beethoven", but instead the artist's real name of "Ludwig van Beethoven" is used.
So why is "Jan van Ruysbroeck" being anglicised?
This is offensive to the history and culture of Flanders.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.69.134.250 (talk) 03:58, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  name 

message: The Catholic Encyclopedia article and some other sources give his year of birth as 1293; the New Schaff-Herzog Encyclopedia of Religious Knowledge gives it as 1294.  I changed the opening summary to say born "1293 or 1294". 
The section on his works probably needs editing for NPOV. --Jim Henry 19:36, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The calculation is a back-counting from Pomerius: if he was 11 when he joined St Gudula in 1305, he must have been born in 1293 or 1294. More than that is not known, as the Ruisbroec genealogy stops with the death of his putative grandfather in 1267.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.241.227.84 (talk) 13:58, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  birth year 

message: I tried to merge the two articles: John of Ruysbroeck and Jan van Ruysbroek (scholar).  If others find it adequate, please make the "Jan" article a redirect. Liblamb 18:32, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Its interesting that Jan preached against the Free Spirit Heresy as in essence much of what he is described as saying here is similar to their message. I suppose the key difference was, of course, that Jan believed the intimate relationship with God spoken of by the Free Spirits could be achieved through the established structure of the Church while the Free Spirits did not. ThePeg 15:25, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You should be particularly interested in  this article, as it suggests that Pomerius' identification of Jan's target with Bloemardine was mis-targetted, that he was actually getting the first shots in against Margaret Porete herself. The framework was Pope John XXII's 1295 Decretal Periculoso, constraining female religious orders to enclosed houses.Jel 16:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Jan & the Brethren

message: His mother installed herself at very short notice in a béguinage near the cathedral. There was only one such, the Hospice Terarken, which depended on the Clutinck family, the leading Brussels Aldermen - the others were quite a distance away. This hospice was established in 1226 by Reynaldus Clutinck, for 12 poor women, and survived until 1792 or thereabouts. It is eminently likely that it inspired his 12 Béguines work, and also the Tabernaculum. We know independantly that the Clutinck family had good relations with the Lords of Ruysbroek, their neighbours, witnessing several deeds for them: Groenedael was also Clutinck land. The van Coudenberg family were almost certainly a cadet branch of the Clutincks, who owned the entire Coudenberg! Furthermore, it would have been extremely unlikely for a serf to have been able to run away like that: this is why the Duke authorised the monastery so easily, they were Nobility, not serfs. But of all dates to set up a cloister, just as the Black Death arrives must have been one of the roughest... 
Antwerp University has recently set up an entire School with a Professor and around a dozen specialist Doctors and researchers specialising in his works and times, and it is entirely possible some very controversial - but justified - aspects of his work will start appearing on the Dutch Wiki site: readers should check there frequently. Jelmain 15:55, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do we really know nothing about his ancestry?