Talk:Classic rock

message: I deleted a claim that Freddie Mercury (along with Hendrix) was a counterexample to the "all-white" nature of Classic Rock radio format.  Without getting into a discussion about the definition of "White", the point is moot to the case being made since the vast bulk of the audience (and programmers) have no inkling that Mercury is anything but British caucasian.  Jgm 18:15, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Race", ethnicity, and nationality are, of course, all different things.  But I really don't know and don't care about the details of Mercury's heritage.  If you take the time to carefully read what I wrote perhaps you'll see the point. Jgm 01:55, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Again, though, I'm not concerned with "what" Freddie Mercury was or wasn't.  I'm claiming  that making the distinction here (rather than in, say, the Freddie Mercury or Queen articles) adds nothing to the reader's knowledge or understanding of the topic at hand. Jgm 11:02, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mercury as exception 

message: I just got ambitious and did a major overhaul of the article body to focus more clearly on the rock radio format that defined "classic rock".  I plan to follow this with a culling of the list to reflect the article content.  Comments welcomed. Jgm 03:09, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent restructure

message: I reverted the link to a seperate page for Classic Rock as a genre.  There is no reason for another article; if you are developing content about Classic Rock genre (please do) this is the place for it; the current article as it stands is a stub specifically created for that eventual content.  The description of the radio format could logically go at the end of that article if there is some detail on the genre added.  Jgm 15:47, 26 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Revert

message: As I understand it, this article is about the the radio format called Classic Rock.  I think the article should reflect the reality of what is played on these stations.  I hear next to nothing from the 1950's on these stations.  I also can't recall hearing Madonna or Cher on a classic rock station. 
I'm going to leave the article as it is because I've already been reverted once, but I think that the article is inaccurate in several respects. ike9898 19:44, Jun 20, 2005 (UTC)
: I'll second that. Classic rock is strictly rock no earlier than the 1960s. If a station is playing older music, it's not classic rock. It's a classic pop station, perhaps, but not rock. MagnoliaSouth (talk) 08:07, 27 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Reality Check

message: I decided to try something different from what I suggested above -- I broke out the station list into a separate article, to which I encourage people to add on-air nicknames for the stations. The list is organized geographically and is basically a cut-and-paste from this article. Follow the new link to see the list. (I'm not condoning adding a list of artists in the same manner though -- too POV.) Haikupoet 17:27, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Breaking out the station list

message: From this page
British hard rock and progressive rock bands make up a central pillar of classic rock artists; significant among these are Led Zeppelin, The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, The Who, The Kinks, Pink Floyd, AC/DC, The Moody Blues, Yes, Rush, and Queen. Many different songs from these acts are likely to appear on the playlists of classic rock stations.
From the AC/DC page
AC/DC is an Australian hard rock band.
: I noticed that too as I was reading. I've removed them from that list, but next time be bold and change it yourself. Also, please sign your comment using four tildes (~~~~) so people know who you are. -Greg Asche (talk) 17:58, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: But, AC/DC should be listed somewhere, even if not British -- they are a pillar of classic rock.  69.138.148.185 (talk) 17:14, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree but AC/DC but the absence of Pink Floyd is quite surprising, they also made an indelible mark on classic rock. MagnoliaSouth (talk) 08:15, 27 September 2012 (UTC)

text: Also, Rush? Hint: They're Canadian. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 20:10, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  AC/DC 

message: There has been a back-and-forth about who "invented" the format, on what station it first appeared, etc.  In the absence of any references or documentation, I've just deleted the paragraph altogether.  I'd suggest discussing here (with citations in hand) before re-adding this.  Jgm 12:39, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins 

message: The article says this:
Artists whose musical output spanned the 1960s and 1970s, including The Beatles and The Rolling Stones form something of a special case: a few later songs from these acts (such as "Revolution" and "Come Together" by The Beatles and "Start Me Up" by the Stones) are staples of classic rock radio, while the older songs from these groups are seldom heard on the format, gravitating instead to oldies radio, along with nearly any other material recorded prior to around 1967.
Ignoring the part about the Stones, is the part about the Beatles really accurate?  While "classic rock" stations certainly limit their selections to the "later" Beatles (probably starting with Strawberry Fields, early 1967), more than a "few" Beatles songs are heard on these stations.  About half the songs on Sgt. Pepper itself, a few from MMT (I am the Walrus, for one), probably a few from the White Album, Hey Jude... I could go on.  What it should probably say is something like "A variety of the Beatles' later songs (about 1967 through 1970) are staples of classic rock radio."  I am not sure how to get the Stones back into the sentence.  They are a different situation anyway, since their career (as known in the U.S.) is 40+ years, not six.  Zeutron 07:23, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Beatles 

message: The progressive rock (radio format) was missing from the Origins section; it was a partial predecessor to album oriented rock (much of what is heard now on classic rock was first heard on progressive), and deserves to be mentioned.  I've worked it in.   Wasted Time R 21:05, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Progressive rock radio 

message: Mentioning Fleetwood Mac as a band whose earlier material is generally considered oldies is a little off-- their first studio album was recorded in 1968 (after the 1967-ish cutoff listed in that section), and their breakthrough material didn't even come until the mid to late 1970s (Fleetwood Mac in '75 and Rumours in '77).  Even the Rolling Stones is a dubious example, as every Classic Rock station I've ever heard plays early Stones.  The Beatles is probably the best example here; oldies stations love Meet the Beatles through Rubber Soul/Revolver, and Classic Rock stations pretty much cover Sgt. Pepper's on.  Triphook 06:45, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fleetwood Mac, oldies? 

message: I will be thinking of writing some articles about this subject. --Music Master 21:50, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relation and influence vs. Classical Music 

message: I added whom I thought were relevant new additions to classic rock playlists around the country and outside of it.  I specifically mention that they are controversial in their inclusion but they exist nonetheless.  I hope you find this to be a welcome paragraph to the article.  After my "blues influence" section was torn down I hope this section doesn't receive the same fate.  Universalguru  3:55, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artists addition 

message: This section should just be removed, it's just becoming a poorly written massive list of orginal research. Ridernyc (talk) 21:16, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Key Artist Section 

message: Many stations are just calling it "rock" now. Sirius refers to its Classic Rock stations as Early Rock and Late Rock. Music Choice describes its classic rock station as "Witness the true pioneers of rock and the classic hits that provided the foundation of rock 'n' roll".  On the AccuRadio Classic Rock station, their station ID goes "The history of rock music".
76.126.15.78 (talk) 15:57, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rock

message: I made some important edits to this this article recently. I moved Bruce Springsteen to the solo artists, since he's more famous for his solo work than he is for his recent work with the E Street Band. I also added Cream and Jethro Tull into the British hard and progressive rock artists, since those artists seem rather prominent in the radio format. In addition, the Beatles and the Kinks may be neither hard rock nor prog, but they are true key artists in the classic rock format (I put them in a separate sentence). Finally, I just had to add mention about Stairway To Heaven and the Led Zep song's significance in the radio format's history. 97.97.174.186 (talk) 17:44, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean-up 

message: I've seen some songs (like many Grateful Dead ones and "Shooting Star" by Bad Company to name a few) and I believe even some records and bands have been labeled as "Classic Rock" in the genre box. I don't think this is accurate, as Classic Rock is really just a time period of rock and roll from the late sixties to the mid-eighties where Hard Rock, Blues-Rock, Psychedelic Rock, and others were dominant. But that's just it, it's made up of many different genres, just from the same time period.
So, basically, I guess I'm just saying that this should not be labeled as a genre for anything. Cheezer Rox (talk) 20:22, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A bit late on this but I think it is both a genre and a format(a failing one at that NYC just lost its only Classic Rock Station). Heavy Metal, Progressive Rock, Psychedelic rock are arguably sub genres of Classic Rock. I have heard kids refer to Led Zep, and the Clash as Classic Rock. As a 51 year old this seems strange to me as I remember when The Clash were the rebels standing against everything Led Zep stood for.  But thinking about it I can see how to an 18 year old Britney Spears fan or a 21 year old Slipknot freak Classic Rock groups sound much more alike alike then different. Edkollin (talk) 08:07, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a genre. 

message: Okay, I am as guilty as anyone for the way this section evolved, but it's clearly time for it to go.  I've removed all mentions of specific bands and songs (as well as the tags).  Yes, all artists mentioned are played on classic rock stations somewhere; but without some valid citation none of them in particular can be claimed to be "key".  I also removed some uncited history that seems to keep coming back; again without some references this could easily be vanity or simply wrong.  Jgm (talk) 21:50, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Great. Now if you could just "de-example-farm" every other music style or radio format article Wiki would be vastly improved :-). Editors just loving seeing how many places they can add their pov favourites though... so it's a never ending battle. The Real Libs-speak politely 22:12, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: PS.. my edit didn't restore anything... just reverted to a previous version. The Real Libs-speak politely 22:21, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Key artist section redux 

message: AccuRadio describes their Classic Rocktopia station, which is a classic rock station, as "the history of rock music". Music Choice describes their classic rock station as "Witness a tribute to the original architects of rock and the classic hits that defined the foundation of rock and roll."
Considering these descriptions, can it be determined that they are merely calling classic rock "rock" now?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Retromaniac (talk • contribs) 20:15, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say no. The Classic Rock sound represents rock music or music that sounds like rock music that originated in the 1960's and 1970's. Classic Rock is generally more bombasitic and Alternative is generally more lo fi. But you are right in the sense that Classic Rock radio stations play Nirvana and Pearl Jam. It is a muddled mess. As of now the article is based on the format "Classic Rock" and it is a notable format. Edkollin (talk) 16:12, 7 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Classic rock stations are not "just rock" -- thought those exist.  Most classic rock stations don't play grunge rock (which is a form of rock).  The station I'm most familiar with (WIMZ), for example, plays hard rock from the very late '60' right up to the beginning of the '90's, but almost nothing post-Nirvana and absolutely nothing with an obvious grunge influence.  They also don't play punk rock, even very early punk, as it is seen as a "classic" style.  Stations exist that play 60's to now, 80's' to now, and so on, but those don't use the term classic rock.  (Though, its is interesting, that Pandora Music can't tell the difference, even when I personally hear a stylistic difference.)  69.138.148.185 (talk) 17:21, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Just "rock"

message: Unless you are prepared to reference every entry and constantly patrol it do not do it.  See previous discussions above.  Artist lists have been removed by consensus more then once. Ridernyc (talk) 19:19, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do not add a band list to this article.

message: I understand that the article is within the scope of the radio discussion, but I feel that since it's the only Wikipedia article titled "classic rock" and there is no disambig page present, the lead sentence should include a definition of the time period/genre/whatever you want to call it. To my knowledge (and this may be ridiculously POV, so apologies if it is), the term "classic rock" does indeed encompass a certain style of music and a radio format is not the first thing that comes to mind when the term is heard. Therefore, until a page is created for the genre itself rather than simply the radio format, I think the lead sentence should be a description of the primary definition of the term and have changed it thus. I have left the rest of the article as is. Unvanquished (talk) 18:50, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that is ridiculously POV to assume what readers are thinking. If there are two subjects with similar names and no disambiguation page exists, the solution is to create a disambiguation page, not conflagrate two subjects in one article in a way that will only confuse and mislead the reader. The subject of this article is a radio format, not a music genre. Any content about a supposed music genre called "classic rock" belongs in it's own article, if warranted, or a related music genre article such as rock music. Piriczki (talk) 14:14, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, fair enough. I just found it odd that other genres such as alternative rock, punk rock, glam rock, etc had their own pages but not classic rock. Thanks for the help and I guess I'll attempt to work on a classic rock genre page instead. Unvanquished (talk) 05:21, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead sentence 

message: Can an image be added to represent Classic Rock? Facebook is linked with and uses Wikipedia, and when there's no image a generic one is used that is unrelated to music. The top-of-the-page image is automatically added to Facebook as a thumbnail/icon. An image at Wikimedia Commons would probably work. I put on a Led Zeppelin stage shot, but now it's gone. I thought because you couldn't really see who was in the photo, it worked as a generic classic rock image. Even just a shot of some rock instruments or a studio control room could work. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Super_Humbucker_V-2_pickup_on_an_Ibanez_Studio_electric_guitar.jpg
J-klem (talk) 05:42, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the consensus for this page is that it's not about classic rock as a genre, but instead about classic rock as a radio format. Band lists of artists understood to have fallen into the "classic rock" genre have been created and sabotaged in the past and eventually the list itself was taken down, so I think a picture depicting such an example would be counterintuitive. Unvanquished (talk) 00:07, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: On Savetheloop.com, the video claims that the classic rock station 97.9 the Loop in Chicago opened its doors in 1979, two years before the "earliest" classic rock radio station on the article  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.78.58.45 (talk) 15:09, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you give any other sources? Pianostar9 (talk) 14:37, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  97.9 The Loop 

message: Whatever our discussion of the definition of Classic Rock music, the first radio station to use that term to describe it's "album rock oldie" format was KRBE, Houston, as described.  This has been documented in articles in the industry trade magazine Radio & Records, and two of the articles are listed as references.  Many, many stations played "classic rock" before KRBE, but not one called it Classic Rock before KRBE, which even had the federal service mark for that phrase before abandoning it and allowing it to go generic.  The general public didn't use the term Classic Rock to describe old album rock until the spread of the radio format.  People claiming this or that station played "old album rock" earlier are correct, but those stations were traditional rock stations which also played current (new) music.  The most recent edit by Piriczki claims that WYSP discussed using the phrase in planning sessions, along with "timeless" and "vintage."  Piriczki admits, however, WYSP did not use the term Classic Rock--whatever their off-air discussions, until the mid 80s when it had become the accepted format name.  KRBE was the first pure Classic Rock station, period.  Can we at least agree on that?  ````  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Electriclarry (talk • contribs) 00:38, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Your edit was undone because it removed referenced content without explanation in the form of an edit summary. Not only would an edit summary have been helpful, such wholesale changes to an article should be discussed on the talk page prior to editing the article. Your statements above that I claimed or admitted to anything are completely false. I did not contribute any of the content regarding WYSP, it simply went back into the article with the rest of the content you deleted when your edit was undone. In fact, I had previously added a "citation needed" tag to the WYSP section with the idea that the entire paragraph would be removed after a reasonable period of time if no sources were found. Your edit also appears to have left behind an orphaned reference ("Overview 1986" Billboard December 27, 1986: Y4), where a citation remains but the content which it supported has been removed. This is misleading to the reader as it makes it appear that the new content is supported by that source when, in fact, it is not. Piriczki (talk) 11:37, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine, let's talk.  First, you are much more experienced at working with Wikipedia than I, but I don't see what referenced content I deleted.  The paragraph you refer to has no citations whatever, and is someone's opinion.  The previous history section is thoroughly referenced.  The reference ("Overview 1986" Billboard December 27, 1986: Y4) is not orphaned.  However, reverting to the WYSP paragraph has orphaned several references.  Do you mind if I repair it?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Electriclarry (talk • contribs) 17:04, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: With [this edit] you removed the sentence The classic rock format evolved from AOR radio stations that were attempting to appeal to an older audience by including familiar songs of the past with current hits. and its accompanying reference (Hill, Douglas. "AOR Nears Crucial Crossroads: Demographics, Ad Pressures My Force Fragmentation" Billboard May 22, 1982: 1) and the sentence In 1982, radio consultant Lee Abrams developed the Timeless Rock format which combined contemporary AOR with hits from the 1960s and 1970s. and its reference ("Timeless Rock FM Format Is Taking Shape", Billboard November 6, 1982: 1). That edit also removed the sentence By 1986, the success of the format resulted in oldies accounting for 60–80% of the music played on album rock stations. but left behind the reference ("Overview 1986" Billboard December 27, 1986: Y4). The reference now follows a different sentence which it does not support. The original reference should be removed if the content it supported has been removed. Also, somewhere along the line a "citaion needed" tag was removed from the WYSP section and an "unreliable source" tag was removed from the classicrockersnetwork reference. FYI, the USPTO record for the service mark you referred to indicates it was for a design which included the words "classic rock," not the term "classic rock" itself and that its first use was August 21, 1984. Piriczki (talk) 19:37, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Radio Format Origin

message: It's understood that most classic rock stations' playlists end when grunge started, but does anyone know what the last rock song to make these playlists is? And if it's consistent across many playlists, it might be worth adding to the article. I seem to remember that K-Rock in NY had Losing My Religion (1991) in their normal rotation. And if not that, are there other contenders? Simon12 (talk) 06:29, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, K-Rock in NY has Vertigo by U2 from 2004 on their top 1043 list, so I guess it's a moving target. (Lot's of Pearl Jam and Nirvana also). Love to find a playlist or top 1000 from 1995-2000 that shows the real final Classic Rock song from the pre-grunge era. Someone else suggested Enter Sandman by Metallica, released July 1991, 5 months after Losing My Religion. Simon12 (talk) 04:06, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The last classic rock song? 

message: Article states that the Houston station KRBE was the first to bill itself as a 'classic rock' station. I'm wondering if that distinction doesn't belong to KLOL (101) instead. I grew up in Houston and at least since the early 80's, KRBE (104) was a Top 40 station, and KLOL was the classic rock station. The Wikipedia article for KRBE doesn't mention anything about it being classic rock, even as far back as the 70's.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.183.120.117 (talk) 21:03, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It was KRBE-AM 1070, the link goes to the wrong article (KRBE-FM 104) which probably caused the confusion. Piriczki (talk) 16:09, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  KRBE? 

message: In the UK the term 'Classic Rock' is not a radio format. The UK does not have a history of 20th century radio stations dedicated purely to 'classic' rock'. I exclude later examples such as Kerrang! Radio andthe Scuzz tv channel because their format is a wider variety of music genres such as indie, punk, metalcore etc. Here in the UK in 2013 the phrase 'classic rock' has evolved to refer to a type or genre of music. 
Historically in the UK the phrase used was simply 'rock', as in 'The Friday Rock Show (BBC, Tommy Vance, launcheed circa 1978 and broadcast for 2 hours a week)'. Nowadays the terms 'classic rock' and 'hard rock' have become fairly synonymous in the UK. For example we have Classic Rock Magazine which routinely features lots of new bands / new music which falls within the genre of 'classic rock'.
What we don't have in the UK is a history of the term 'classic rock' being used to describe purely a radio station format. In fact I don't see many citations on this page linking to UK sources, only US, which is why I suggest this article appears to be narrowly written to match a US definition only.
I was tempted to draft a UK section and suggest adding to the page, but am reluctant to do so after having read in this talk section the number of failed suggestions to include 'Classic Rock as a genre' on Wikipedia over the last decade.
I do not have a wiki account, but I will identify myself as music reviewer Paul Jack. I'll type the tilde thing now.  81.178.140.140 (talk) 08:11, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a different topic and belongs in its own article, see WP:DISAMBIG and WP:TOPIC. Piriczki (talk) 14:49, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  US-Centric definition 

message: Re an unexplained reversion by another user: . If you refuse to allow this statement here, then you must remove the REDIRECT from "Dad rock" to "Classic rock". The term must be mentioned in the article, or else there's no point having a redirect. It is unhelpful. 31.50.70.172 (talk) 00:44, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to prod the Dad rock redirect for deletion.--SabreBD (talk) 10:24, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: If that statement could be solidly cited ti would be an excellent inclusion, in my opinion. Huw Powell (talk) 16:09, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a pejorative term applied to music or artists from the 1970s or current artists that adopt earlier styles, it is not about the radio format. Piriczki (talk) 16:29, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Dad rock" 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Recently, user Redideo has repeatedly added unsourced, inaccurate content which doesn't directly relate to the subject of this article. An external link was also added in violation of WP:SPAM. The questionable content reads as follows:
As of 2015, an example of the classic rock radio format includes San Diego, California's KGB-FM. In the 1980's, it was a ground breaking station due to the leadership of Ron Jacobs and General Manager Sonny Jim Price. The KGB Chicken (later known as the San Diego Chicken), The Homegrown Albums, and Sky Show are just a few of the innovative ideas that were created by KGB-FM due to the influence of the classic rock format.
First, there are hundreds of classic rock stations as of 2015 and there doesn't appear to be anything particularly noteworthy about this one as it pertains to the classic rock format. Jacobs left KGB in 1975 and Price about 1983, long before the station became classic rock. Homegrown Albums, the Chicken and Sky Show started in 1973, 1974 and 1976 respectively, not in the 1980s. That these promotions from the 1970s could have been created "due to the influence of the classic rock format" which developed in the 1980s makes no sense.
This content could possibly be added to the album-oriented rock article under Programming but it isn't relevant to this article. Piriczki (talk) 20:19, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Piriczki's reading of the edits. They are not appropriate.--SabreBD (talk) 20:53, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits by user:Redideo 

message: "Classic Rock Radio at 30: The Songs Change, So Does the Vibe Remain the Same?" - Billboard, 14 Dec 2015. --Tsavage (talk) 19:53, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good new Billboard article source (Dec 2015) 

message: Here are some recent stats from Nielsen showing the continued ratings strength of the Classic Rock radio format in the U.S. in 2015: http://historyofclassicrockradio.com/classic-rock-is-still-going-strong/. I think this would make a good addition. Thoughts? SethResler (talk) 15:48, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ratings? 

message: @Ohnothimagain: I accidentally reverted your edit 25 minutes ago. Can you share why my previous edit had inaccurate content?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pianostar9 (talk • contribs) 14:34, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The claim that KRBE was the first to name the format classic rock is inaccurate and is clearly contradicted in the preceding paragraph. Your next addition: "Originally, it was around 1965 to 1975, but 1980s rock started slowly being added around the 1990s." is also inaccurate and you seem to misunderstand what the sources are saying. The first source refers to rock music of a certain era, not radio programming and the second source is not a reliable source. Ohnothimagain (talk) 14:59, 5 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Conflict 

message: I believe the programming portion of the article can be improved upon. I like the idea of the references on different types of genres, but it should be more elaborated on. There should also be other examples on top of the rolling stones that dominated the classic rock period.
Alex Steighner (talk) 16:49, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Programming  

message: About half of this section is the career music bore Robert 'Must be featured in every band  or album article on Wikipedia' Christgau, 'Classic Rock' is the archetype of the sort of music Christgau deplores so his slating of it is hardly unexpected. It would be nice to have more contributions from critics with the ability to see classic rock starting from a more neutral perspective (mere adoration is as useless as knee-jerk dismissal). Stub Mandrel (talk) 18:47, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Analysis and criticism 

message: The first statement of this article is not applicable worldwide. Classic Rock as a "radio format" I would suggest is exclusively an American affair. 
Whilst the second statement qualifies this, it makes no mention of the fact that the format has little or no meaning elsewhere in the world. Musicfan1353 (talk) 10:39, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Applicable to United States only 

message: I'm fairly sure these sentences are outdated, as they are predicting future trends, but are sourced to something from 2006:
There has been a recent revival in the older fashions of classic rock in the early 2000s. Back in the prime of classic rock radio during the 1970s and 1980s, when it was mainstream, and radio was the main form of accessing the music, classic rock soared in to every individual's ear. Classic rock will not overtake the current style of hip-hop/pop, but teenagers specifically are set to introduce the contents of classic rock into their rotation of music. —Lights and freedom (talk ~ contribs) 03:13, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That content was added by an EDU editor (student editing wikipedia as part of an academic class), and that sort of writing (lots of words but little "meat") is typical. The ref is good, but is already summarized much more succinctly and concretely later in the section, so I removed the portion you quoted above. Schazjmd (talk) 13:58, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outdated sentences 

message: I don't think it specifically violates the principle against criticism sections, but this kind of academic obscurantism is inappropriate for Wikipedia. If you want to cite an academic thesis on classic rock, there may be a place for that, but it doesn't need to take up so much space and crowd out more relevant information. This article should explain what classic rock is as a music genre and how it is typically understood. 2603:7081:1603:A300:6D07:A065:FFEF:FEF9 (talk) 13:13, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Lol now I now you dont know what the hell you're talking about when you misuse words like obscurantism ... 𝒮𝒾𝓇 𝒯𝑒𝒻𝓁𝑜𝓃 (talk | contribs) 13:40, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

text: Using "criticism" as a section title is generally frowned upon, so I'd recommend a section title change, but otherwise there's nothing wrong with the content present as long as it is correctly sourced and attributed to reliable sources. I'd recommend adding additional content, either elsewhere in the article, or in the given section for a potential counter-narrative, instead. Sergecross73 msg me 19:36, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Analysis/Criticism section is inappropriate 

message: I'm adding this section to bring a something incorrect to light.
Wikipedia quotes:
"Classic rock is a radio format that developed from the album-oriented rock (AOR) format in the early 1980s".
(Author: Pareles, Jon (June 18, 1986).
When I read that reference thinking it is flat-out wrong. so I clicked on the reference provided to see who wrote that, but to my surprise the article quoted something completely differently than you printed! This is the actual quote from Jon Pareles:
"To hold on to older listeners, FM rock radio - once the primary outlet for new rock songs and performers -is cutting down on current music. Across the United States, so-called album-oriented rock (AOR) radio stations are playing an increasing amount of older material, sometimes as high as 80 percent. In some cities, these album-rock stations now face direct competition from a new kind of oldies format -classic rock, which draws exclusively on the 1960's and 1970's staples of album rock."
(OLDIES ON RISE IN ALBUM-ROCK RADIO By Jon Pareles June 18, 1986, Section C, Page 26)
What Jon Pareles is clearly saying is that in the 1980s the term "Classic Rock" originated, and referenced the rock from the 1960s and 1970s are that genre.
Please correct it! Note48 (talk) 19:15, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrections needed to Classic Rock definition