Talk:"Weird Al" Yankovic/Archive 5

message: Why is weird al is not sending messages at ask al why? Favi4et 22:51, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're asking when will Weird Al answer more questions, the submission page specifically states "The next 5 answers will be posted... when he's good and ready!"  So just be patient.  If you're having problems actually submitting questions, check things like your cookies and cache. ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 00:54, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The other explanation could be that... he's Weird. Wahkeenah 01:11, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Uh, ok? When he's good and ready he will, which will probably be soon. Or maybe during a dead time of the tour. Lamename3000 04:02, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ask Al 

message: It says at the start of the article he has appeared in "shows such as The Simpsons, Futurama, and Behind the Music." In what episode of Futurama did he have a cameo in? I've seen them all, and never seen him.
:I know he appears briefly in The Cryonic Woman in one of the cryonic tubes, but not a major role in the ep. I believe this is his only appearance on the show. --WillMak050389 14:13, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Futurama? 

message: I respect and observe Wikipedia's naming standards for article titles, but I have been going through (and it's taking a long time) and making the in-article (ie. not having to do with an actual link) song and album names as they have been published since the start -- with all first letters captialized (save for "eBay").  The only one I'm not touching right now is the extended title for the UHF album (not sure if that "and" was capitalized). T.J. Fuller, Jr. 05:52, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Common used words such as the, a, of, in are not supposed to be capitalized per just common English. Look at the title of the cover of any book you own, and it will show the non-capitalization. The mid-title words should not be capitalized. Michael Greiner 14:59, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is the general guideline for English-language titles, but things such as iPod and eHarmony are proper nouns that go against that standard. Now, I know that those can be debunked as items of trademark, but does artistic license mean nothing?  I mean, when a guy releases his stuff in a capitalizationally-consistent manner, doesn't that stand for anything? T.J. Fuller, Jr. 04:02, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Captialization 

message: Albuquerque was played on 10 March 2007 as part of the Straight Outta Lynwood tour.  regen_nz 9:44 11 March 2007
:To be specific it was performed as the encore. - John 210.246.0.177 21:45, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not sure why this is being discussed here. --Maxamegalon2000 21:47, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Because in the article it says that he has only played the song once concert. Michael Greiner 22:09, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *I was going to correct the page but I haven't been registered long enough to do so. Stuartmiller 00:54, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thus, the line in question regarding Albuquerque as a one-time concert song has been removed. I 100% support that. Thanks!Lamename3000 07:50, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's another error - it says he also played Drive Thru in NZ - but he only played some of it. (Relevant as the article is refering to the length of the song) 203.97.51.149 19:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 06:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  He also performed Alberquerque as an encore at the Melbourne performance of the tour (and one would assume he will at every performance). Drive Thru was also played in a shortened version (as were many other songs, such as A Complicated Song). Glennnnn 04:15, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Also as an encore in Wollongong as well Ka5hmir 07:14, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music 

message: Donations have started up again. Seems like the fee for the star have been raised $10,000 by the moneybag grabbing people in the Hollywood Chamber of Commerce. Maybe someone can add that in? I still haven't figured out the correct way to cite sources yet, but all the info is on the main WASF page. Lamename3000 07:35, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Updated.  Check WP:CITE for info on citing sources. ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 00:49, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weird Al Star Fund 

message: Should I add that Al guest-stared on the Australian music quiz show 'Spicks and Specks' on Wednesday 14th of March?
Hey wikipedians, just thought I'd say that the atlanitc records sucks shirt wasn't there at the tweed heads concert, so maybe it was a one time thing? WHO KNOWS.
Dude i think he should make up a nick name!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!. for God's sake every one keep spelling it wrong!!!!!!!!!, he doesnt deserv that!!!
: There never was an "atlantic records sucks" shirt.  Ever.  There was the White and Nerdy hoodie, but that's about it in the way of White & Nerdy-based shirty goodness.
And as for your complaint about his name, well, that's just stupid.  Learn to use proper grammar (for a start, exclamation marks are only needed once, go at the end of sentences, and replace full stops). Taylor 11:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Way to rip off an IP's head. A read of WP:BITE is order for you. BTW, Al did wear an "Atlantic Records Sucks" shirt while performing You're Pitiful at a concert in Australia (might have been New Zealand). Michael Greiner 14:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, I have seen the Atlantic Records Sucks shirt in person, and have linked to a photo of said shirt in the references.  It was not merchandise (as our angry friend Taylor apparently seems to believe); it was part of his hilarious YP outfit. ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 01:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just saw Weird Al in concert last night (8/5/07) in Raleigh NC and he performed "you're pitiful".  His last shirt was indeed the "atlantic record sucks" shirt.  the main page needs to be changed.  he also had a spongebob face t-shirt, and the last thing he removed was his pants to reveal a tutu and fishnet stockings.  i'm not making this up.  it did fit though with the songs message of being "pitiful" to be dressed so weird.  Yoduh99 15:57, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spicks and Specks 

message: Do we prefer the current one, or would we like a new, clearer one?  I could crop the new one, such that "you can actualy see his face" to quote the person who reverted my edit of the new one.  ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 02:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Honestly, I think once his US tour starts next month we'll have a lot more options. --Maxamegalon2000 03:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point... Feel kinda silly now.  ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 05:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

text:  I really like the current one. I don't think we should change it to any concert pictures, unless they are clear pictures from after concert meet+greets, for example. Lamename3000 05:47, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have row five tickets on the center aisle for a concert in August so I'll try to take some pictures then. --Michael Greiner 03:43, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture: vote for change 

message: I have passed the nomination for this article to be part of Wikipedia Release Version 0.7 based on it's quality and importance. Greeves (talk • contribs) 02:05, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:V0.7|Wikipedia Release Version 0.7]]

message: This song is commonly tagged by being Weird Al, but the Not Al says its by David Allen Coe, and thats not right either, cos I can't find the album with that song on it. So who did TDWDtJ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.154.241.58 (talk) 06:10, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Travis Meyer. Look right under it. Gdo01 06:13, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How ironic, Weird Al perpetuating the exact "misinterpretation" issue he himself hates :-) SmUX 00:29, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Not Al page isn't maintained by Weird Al.  ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 04:16, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Devil Went Down to Jamaica? 

message: I read somewhere that Al was a born again christian, if this is true should it be included on here? It may not be true however, does anyone know?
:If he became a christian, we should include it, but definitely not call him "born-again".--Orthologist 13:45, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a discussion in the talk page archives about religion. Michael Greiner 19:30, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Because he's always been Christian. Born again people are ones who lost their faith and regained it. ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 02:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay, explain why (or how you know that) he hasn't always been Christian - has he converted faiths or anything?  If it's a matter of semantics you're upset about, would you prefer I'd said "He's always followed the Christian faith"?  In future, it'd be appreciated if you were more civil on the talk page.  ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 06:31, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

text: As I said below, either add the source or don't add the info to the article. --Michael Greiner 04:17, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The way I read it, including this information would violate WP's stance for biographies of living people, specifically the presumption of privacy.  Details of the church Al attends (even if publically available), while not "harming" him directly, is violating privacy details.  Plus, again, beyond stating that he converted to Christianity, is it absolutely necessary to include such details?  What does this do to help understand Al's bio? --Masem 04:41, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with you, Masem.  I would NEVER divuldge on a public site like this - even this talk forum, as anyone can view it - what church Weird Al attends.  (Even if Wikipedia's policy demanded it instead of forbade it!)  So, I can accept that means that since we can't cite it without violating his privacy, we cannot describe the sort of church he attends, either (since we would lack a citation for it withough divulging the actual church).  Like I said, I'm new to this, and just trying to ask questions to figure out how the rules work, and whether Weird Al's Christianity can be ellaborated on at all while working within ethical boundaries and the rules of Wikipedia. - psychandtheology 66.215.84.7 05:35, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When contributing to the article, I generally follow my self-set rule which states "don't say anything that Al himself hasn't already confirmed."  That way, I figure, we're safe from invasions of privacy and all the mess that can cause.  So in this case, unless he specifically states "I go to this church", it should be left just mentioning he's a Christian.  ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 09:52, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Life 

message: He has been Categorised as Vegan, and is in the "Vegan Bands" list, but this article makes no mention of his full conversion to Veganism. Vampus 17:39, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Read this archived discussion, Talk:%22Weird_Al%22_Yankovic/Archive_2#Vegetarian_or_Vegan. There is a paragraph that describes his eating preferences in the "New look, personal life, and career to present" section of the article. Michael Greiner 22:24, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just read it now, but it doesn't explain why the main article lists him as one thing (vegetarian) and the category section lists him as another (Vegan). Vampus 02:21, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I submit the following: . --Maxamegalon2000 20:17, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vegan 

message: Is it worth mentioning in the reactions section that in several live performances the Presidents of the United States of America have concluded Lump with the line "And that's all I have to say about that", a la Weird Al's Gump, as opposed to "Is this lump out of my head" as is heard in the original recording? If any resources are needed, the line shows up in the live version of Lump on Pure Frosting and in several performances on YouTube. 74.75.214.89 01:46, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You would have to find a secondary source that notes this; anything else would be original research. --Maxamegalon2000 02:06, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Presidents 

message: My wife told me she remebers Al appering on SNL & Fridays in the 1980s. She also told me, although I don't know if it went on any albums, that he did a parody of a parody of American Pie called Chicken Pot Pie, and a parody of Taxman called Pac-Man. Is this true? Should we put it in? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.228.104.241 (talk • contribs).
:Find a reliable source. BTW, Chicken Pot Pie is a parody of Live and Let Die by Wings. Michael Greiner 01:33, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know about Fridays, but she may be confusing SNL with "Welcome to the Fun Zone", a summer replacement series for SNL starring Dr. Demento; Al appeared on the show's premiere, and the song "Fun Zone" was originally written as a title song for the series. --Maxamegalon2000 03:39, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

text: The parody of American Pie was "The Saga Begins" SmUX 00:31, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

text: "Chicken Pot Pie" and "Pac-Man" are real parodies by Weird Al. However, they were concert-only songs and thus haven't been released. See  for more information. --Temporarily Insane (talk) 01:00, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weird Al on SNL & Fridays 

message: My wife is a HUGE Al fan. We have all his albums, and my Wife says she had something called "The Basement Tapes" that had the below song parodies on them. I couldn't find any of them on the NOT AL PAGE, so could a true fan tell me if any of these are real, or if my wife is thinking of BOB RIVERS, or someone else? If they are really AL, can we put them in his SONGS BY WIERD AL page?
SONGS:
*1) My Pants Fell Down.......(Parody of "Send In The Clowns")
*2) Are You Gonna Feed My Squrriel... ("are you gonna be my girl")
*3) If You Like Ronald McDonnald ( "(Escape) The Pina Colda Song")
*4) Wild Rice..... ("Wild Boys")
*5) Stairmaster To 7-11 ("Stairway to Heaven")
*6) Freeballin'.... (Free Fallin')
*7) Bored at the PTA ("Born In The U.S.A.)
*8) Wish It Wern't Platonic... ("Ironic")
*9) Stacy's Dad... ("Stacy's Mom")
*10) She Shops......("She Bop")
*11) Old Wigga.... ("Gold Digger"
*12) Barley Alive....("Stayin' Alive")
I don't remember hearing any of these, even on Dr.Demento's shows, where I know he played alot of Al's  homemade recordings, (Like "You don't take your showers...") but I could be wrong.-- T. Sanchez 6/15/07
: <-list of released songs. I highly, highly doubt that any of these songs are by Al. The basement tapes songs were recorded in the 80's, well before most of the songs parodied on your list were written by their original artist. Michael Greiner 02:18, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind... My wife just told me she was thinking of G.G. Allin --207.225.245.31 19:20, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are These Weird Al, Or Not?!? 

message: Isn't there a song list for Weird Al, because missing on some songs isn't very helpful. I only know one educational Weird Al song though. It's called Pancreas. But anyway, someone should make a list of all the songs that Weird Al has made, not just the ones he wins awards for. ☺EfansayT/C☺ 10:51, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: List of songs by "Weird Al" Yankovic already exists.  It was linked to right under the heading of "Yankovic's work" in this article.  ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 11:07, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Songs 

message: Would it be helpful to have a split screen, showing the "Old" and "New" looks Al has had. He looked alot different before his eye & plastic surgery... it could be helpful, since this "New" look is brought up in this article, and some of the album articles as well. I don't think we need to worry about copyright violation if the old photo is more than five years old, according to my source.
:Pleasae sign your posts using 4 ~
:Other than that, I think a split picture would be more confusing than helpful. Besides, there is already a section detailing "the new look." LN3000 23:09, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just compare the photo at the top of the article with the one in the "New look, personal life, and career to present" subsection of his bio.  ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 00:13, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My partner and I vote for the split screen.--71.35.187.128 00:26, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's nice to know you vote for the split photo, but Wikipedia is not a democracy. LN3000 23:21, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split Screen Photos 

message: One oversite I've noticed in the T.V. guest roles, is that he was featured briefly on the tv show Mr. Show. He preformed a parody of a fictional hit song called Superstar Machine. His version was called "Sushi Bar Machine"--Fernwood 00:37, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: False.  The parody was performed by "Daffy 'Mal' Yinkleyankle". --Maxamegalon2000 01:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I read the book "Wha Happen'd: A Mr.Show Companion" By Naomi Odenkirk. It was him. He was wearing a wig, and doing an extreme  version of himself. They interview Al in the book. --71.35.187.128 03:42, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, in an interview, Yankovic said "On Mr. Show they once did a lampoon of me where Bob Odenkirk played a guy named “Daffy” Mal Yinkleyankle."  --Maxamegalon2000 03:46, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Incidentally, the book title is "What Happened?: A Mr Show Companion"; "Wha' Happen'd" is the catchphrase of Fred Willard's character in A Mighty Wind.  One anecdote relating to this discussion is that during the writing of The Weird Al Show, Bob Odenkirk suggested the names of Fred Huggins' puppets, Papa Boolie and Baby Boolie.  Maybe if we find a source, that can be crammed into the Weird Al Show article.  ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 04:14, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  T.V. Apperances 

message: I noticed that no one has indicated that Bart Simpson, and the Jerky Boys made an apperance on the track Phonny Calls. I'll put it in the songs section--71.35.187.128 00:57, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Phony Calls thing was a direct lift from an episode of The Simpsons using Bart Simpson's and Moe Syzlack's voices and isn't really significant for this article.  Already mentioned in the Bad Hair Day article.  I have no idea where you got the Jerky Boys thing from, though.  They aren't in the song.  ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 04:27, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phonny Calls 

message: There was this somewhat strange (probably canadian) film about the future where people are moving to start living and working on the moon, the title of which I never knew and could not identify. It seemed to be edutainment in some form. It included a scene where two lunar prospectors in their remote mining control center are inspecting the finds of their latest crust sample, where they eschew rubies and gold and go insane with joy at the discovery of a pocket of water, saying something like "We got the hydrogen, the oxygen...!"
There was something also about a hotel on the moon...
It was fairly realistic, and involved another scene with someone taking interviews via hologram for entertainment propositions, ending with a cowboy-like figure suggesting a lunar rodeo or something like that.
My point is this: a cameo appearance of someone that looked, sounded and acted exactly like Weird Al, who was apparently the front man of a band based on simple noise who apparently believed that they could be heard through the moon's atmosphere. Their saying, he said was "If a tree falls in the forest and no one's around to hear it, does it make a sound? Yes! If it's a really LOUD TREE!!!" And that was about it.
It was one of the funniest things I've ever heard Weird Al say.
I was shown this thing on a lazy day in a 6th grade Industrial Technology class, so it had to be made prior to the year 1994. Does anyone have any idea of what I'm talking about?? Google results in no hits on "really loud tree", sadly. I'd say that this is known even less than his rumored part in Transylvania 6-5000
JJ 12:29, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to IMDB.com, your space movie was Living and Working in Space: The Countdown Has Begun, which does indeed have Weird Al in it.  I remember reading about this on IMDB ages ago, and thinking "This sounds stupid but intriguing."  So there you go.  Don't bother looking it up on Wikipedia, because it doesn't seem to have an article.  ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 12:50, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A video I saw in middle school... 

message: The image about half way down the page of "White and Nerdy" should be on the Atlantic Records page as well.
:Take it up at the Atlantic Records article, not here. This is only about the Weird Al article. Michael Greiner 23:14, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "YOU SUCK"

message: Pretty Fly (For a Jedi).
I know he already spoofed The Offspring's song with Pretty Fly (For a Rabbi), and it seems unlikely that he would make two songs about one song. Who did this song?  — [Unsigned .]
:
Not Al. According to a Google search, Chris Bodily did. Michael Greiner 17:06, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  If Weird Al didn't write this song, who did? 

message: During the late 1990's, Subway resturants ran some radio ads that Al did, featuring a song called "Give 'em a Sub, 'Bub" These played mainly in the Pacific Northwest. We, (my wife and I) heard them on the radio all the time. Should we put this into the article, along with the other ads he has done over his career (Pepsi, Tometone Pizza)?--65.101.154.39 01:53, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Find sources. You and your wife don't count because that would be Original research. --Michael Greiner 02:09, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, but I'm really getting tired of anonymous IPs coming here talking about stuff that only them and their wife know. I'm not trying to attack or anything, but please find sources before you come wanting to add all bits of info into the article just because you think you know some rare fact about Al. LN3000 07:15, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I second that, but Please do not bite the newcomers. --Michael Greiner 14:34, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, maybe I should have lunch or something before I talk next time. :) LN3000 19:11, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

text: This "my wife said..." garbage has been going on for nearly a month, I don't think it's a question of a "newcomer" anymore.  The evidence so far suggests that it's either a troll, or someone who genuinely just doesn't get it.  Either way, many of the editors here are getting sick of it, and I don't think it's all that inappropriate or unseemly to express our frustration. - Ugliness Man 02:42, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Besides, making lists of ads people did 20 years ago isn't really worthy of inclusion in an encyclopedia.  It isn't really notable unless they make Al their official spokesman or something. ~~ Gromreaper(Talk)/(Cont) 07:19, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subway Radio Ads 

message: I'm sorry, but these anonymous IPs are very annoying. And they all are from what I assume are the same person, since their IP addresses all point to Denver, Colorado.
Please, Mr. Colorado, stop with the unreasonable, unsourced, unverifiable, unbelievable claims about "Weird Al" Yankovic. Thanks, I'd appreciate it. LN3000 02:41, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anonymous IP questions 

message: Al can be heard as one of the minor robot characters in the new Transformers movie that is out in theaters right now... he is apparently playing the role of a waste-management vehicle. USER: Chimero 04:36, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, he will be playing that role in the animated series Transformers: Animated. --Maxamegalon2000 00:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transformers Movie 

message: There is some verification on the internet regarding this, but I don't know if they would qualify as reliable sources.  I am personally aware that Weird Al is a very active member of a conservative, Bible-believing Christian church.   I do not really want to link to the citation that names the particular church, however, since I beleive that such information broadcasted on Wikipedia would force Weird Al to find a new church - that would be grossly unfair to him.  Though there is a citation that I can link to that does not name the church.
What does everyone else think?  Should we clarify Weird Al's Christian faith?Psychandtheology 03:50, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article already cites Al's current faith, but I would believe adding the specific church would edge on an invasion of privacy, beyond not being a necessary element of the article.  --Masem 03:58, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Once again, anything without sources will not be put into the article. Unless you add the source, any info will be removed. If you add the source it would not be OR. Al has not really spoken about his faith except for saying that he considers himself a Christian. See talk page archives about more discussion on religion. --Michael Greiner 04:09, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not sure if this would qualify as "Original Research"