Talk:Sesshomaru

message: I believe that inuyasha shouldn't be capitalized as "InuYasha" but "Inuyasha" because japan doesn't have upper or lower case and the only reason we capitalize inuyasha at all is bcuz we are trying to conform it to our laws of grammar.  any thoughts?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.71.219.167 (talk) 19:06, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: about inuyasha

message: I think there should be a picture of him underneith the manga picture showing how he looks in the anime. I think the manga picture makes him look like a child. -Mrpsychic
:Really? I'd never read it so I wouldn't know... could you find one then? :) Tyciol 04:41, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea, I have a bunch of pictures of the anime version, I just don't know how to upload.  Send an email to mrpsychic8472@yahoo.com and I can transfer the picture to you if you know how to do it.
The manga is the first Inuyasha, as such it makes sense to put one from the original. Apparently you haven't read the manga lately, because as of late he has looked anything but childish, and also have you considered, he isn't that old?
Actually Sesshomaru is about 200 years old. Just so you knowSetsuka13 22:17, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture from anime request

message: Is there indeed no accent? Or yeah yeah!does Wikipedia not use accents? I guess I took it for granted there was one, but maybe there wasn't... WhisperToMe? Some guy named Linkdude20002001 seems to be contesting it.Tyciol 06:10, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Move to unaccented

message: I think there should be a picture of him from both the manga and anime, not some fan drawing of him. MrPsychic 02:17, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see there's been a lot of activity switching the picture around. MrPsychic 02:15, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Character Picture

message: Am I the only person who believes that most of Sesshoumaru's article is awfully biased and contains a lot of " information " that has yet to be proved? I honestly do not understand why others have not complained about this yet, ( even though it is listed as an, " article with unsourced information " ) especially since people complain about the slightest bits of bias and false information in Naraku and other character's articles... If people are to take this article seriously, then I suggest carefully editing most of it, because about 50% of it appears to be theories and opinions. False information only misleads fans, and NO wikipedia article will ever look professional unless it is unbiased. I am aware that Sesshoumaru is the favorite character of many, many fans, ( which may be why I am currently the only person who is pointing out all this bias ) but if someone is going to create a true biography / profile about him, then at least make it accurate. I apologize if I seem rude, it is just that I feel biased articles are cheating the readers and they also make the writer(s) seem somewhat immature, in my opinion. Please tell me that Wikipedia is not a biased website...
IANS 11:39, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bias and unproved information

message: The theories in these are well thought out and backed with information that is sensible. A little bias never hurt anyone, and no matter how much you want to make it go away, there will always be bias. Sesshoumaru is a dearly loved character (at least for me ^^) so naturally there will be bias and I have an idea that may satisfy your concern. Perhaps, not to cheat the readers we should split the article into two, one for straight, bald, facts and the other for theories and opinions.  Seem fair? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.187.23.50 (talk • contribs) 
:Bias is not allowed here. See WP:NPOV. --Zeno McDohl (talk) 03:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You can add it if it has a reliable source. Although I doubt any theories do. --Zeno McDohl (talk) 22:13, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion in response to Bias and unproved information

message: 206.255.24.180 just changed his name, but not the page. I think we should revert to original (Sesshōmaru), but since the user made legit changes it'll be annoying. --Zeno McDohl (talk) 15:05, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: No point using the "correct" Sesshōmaru spelling because using that special "ō" character is a pain. Now Googlefight says Sesshomaru gets 499K hits while Sesshoumaru gets 438K hits. Since Sesshomaru is also shorter, I say we stick to that spelling and give this issue a rest.--Boffob 23:03, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sesshomaru vs Sesshoumaru 

message: So...he's permenantly one-armed in all chapters after the human arm incident? Is that correct? --MitchellTF
:I think that is correct. In the anime, he is one-armed from episode 7 and on, where Inuyasha first uses Tessaiga.Nancysing 21:44, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: His Missing Arm

message: Does anyone mind if I change the Companions subsection to a Relationships section like the one that is found here on InuYasha's page? That seems much easier to understand than the current format. -- Nancysing 22:16, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Companions

message: shouldent the swords attacks be void now that it is destroyed?--"P-Machine" 05:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It existed and contributed to Sesshomaru, so it stays.--Oreichalcos (talk) 16:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Dogs aren't naturally domesticated. Even today, wild dogs still exist and live as their ancestors had. Species doesn't have anything to do with servitude. An animal doesn't change its species genetically because of domestication, so your idea has no ground. A wolf is a wolf, and a dog is a dog. --Oreichalcos (talk) 16:32, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the tokijin 

message: I pretty much added all the needed categories that Sesshomaru fits in. I was wondering about these two: :Category:Fictional magic users and :Category:Manga and anime villains. Can someone help me out here? Should these two categories be added at the bottom of the main article? I mean, he does use magic in some shape or form, right? And is he a manga/anime villain? That's what I need to know. Thanks! Power level (Dragon Ball) 02:27, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure Sesshoumaru belongs in the magic users category since using his own power (youki) isn't the same as using magic (like Tsubaki or Urasue). He's more like a magical creature than a magic user. Sesshoumaru isn't a villain, although he was quite malicious in the beginning. He's more like an anti-hero. --Slotedpig 05:04, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Gotta agree with Slotedpig. He's not a magic user (you never see him cast spells or anything), only a magical creature (that is, his nature is "magical"). Same with the villain issue. He did start as a villain and antagonist to Inuyasha and his friends, but has shed that role a long time ago and now he definitely is an antihero.--Boffob 05:42, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool. Thanks for your comments guys. By the way, are there any other categories I'm missing for him at the bottom then? Power level (Dragon Ball) 17:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two categories he may be in... 

message: I was wondering something about his father. Did his father ever show full appearence in the manga, or did they just create a look for him to fit the 3rd movie? And was his father ever named in the manga? CureHeart 18:51, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  His Father? 

message: Anyone ever play the Playstation 1 2D Inuyasha fighting game?  I did, and to be honest, it sucked.  Nevertheless, something I saw in there intrigued me.  Namely, Kikyo stating that Inuyasha was actually stronger than Sesshomaru.
Okay, before I continue, let me state that I am a HUGE Sesshomaru fan.  Yes, I agree completely, he is very impressive.  Far more impressive than his younger brother Inuyasha.  Indeed, when I played that Plastation 1 game on my PS2 a while back, I eventually stopped using Sesshomaru because I got tired of playing the whole entire game without ever getting hit.  Yes Sesshomaru fans, if you ever come across or play an Inuyasha fighting game, just pick Sesshomaru and you will sail straight to the end of the game without being hit once.  I typed a criticism of Sesshomaru on the Inuyasha character page.  You can't miss it; its the longest opinion there.
Whatever the case, I would be inclined to disagree with anyone who says that Inuyasha will never surpass Sesshomaru.  The main reason I feel this way is because, as with all animes, Inuyasha carries with it a social message that is a big issue in Japan, namely, the plight of biracial children.  The character Inuyasha represents pretty much every child in Japan born between a "gaijin" and a Japanese woman.  The rejection Inuyasha suffered as a small child is symbolic of the bullying biracial children suffer there.  To maintain that Sesshomaru is inherently superior to Inuyasha is to fail to understand the anti-racist message the series has.  So, Inuyasha, the half demon (read, symbolically, half Japanese) will never even come close to, or surpass, his brother Sesshomaru, the full demon (read, again symbolically, full Japanese).  So, Inuyasha can never outrain being inferior to his brother Sesshomaru.  I'm sorry but, given the obviously implied message AGAINST bullying biracial children or treating them as somehow inferior, it simply would not be right if within the show or manga's plot a way wasn't found for Inuyasha to overcome his weakness.  Sesshomaru developing "compassion" for his younger brother simply wouldn't be enough, because, that would be a condescending way of saying that the superior, fully Japanese children should show compassion towards the "inferior" half Japanese children because they can't help the fact that they were born inferior.  I'm sorry but, when you say "Inuyasha will never train himself to be a full Yokai" that is what I read.
Accuse me of reading to much into it if you like, but, the fact of the matter is Inuyasha does carry a deep social message.  One of the best ways to create fantasy is to take a very real social issue, and put a fantasy spin on it.  It may indeed be possible that Inuyasha may overcome his demonic side eating away at his soul.  Don't forget, Inuyasha is ultimately a fairy tale whose theme is overcoming impossible odds.  Not only that, but east Asian fiction is full of heroes who trained themselves to become far stronger than the limits they were born with.  I have seen it many times;  "he started out as the physically weakest Ninja, but, with time and training he surpassed even the great master...."  I have seen that plot device used in countless animes, not the least of which is DBZ.
Take Goku and Vegeta.  Vegeta was BORN stronger than Goku.  True, they were both Saiyans, and Saiyans get stronger when they heal from injuries.  However, even though Goku was born far, far weaker than Vegeta, and whereas a kid Vegeta could wipe out Saiba men, Goku struggled bitterly against King Piccolo, a villain far less powerful (at least at the time) than just one Saiba man.  Eventually though, despite having limitations, he surpassed him just on training.
I personally find the idea of "natural ability" as vulgar and downright racist.  Determination and dedication, after all, are far more important than talent or natural ability, because, what can I say, the human body and human mind can only go so far.  That means that, with time and training, even a seemingly impossible feat to accomplish can be accomplished with enough time and practice.  There are natural limits of course, but, it is determination and dedication which ultimately really matter when it comes to going beyond those limits.  I will agree with one point though; if you do not have the talent for, say, basketball, and you want to make it to the pros, look forward to LONG HOURS of practice.  Generally its best to stick with what you are good at because you learn it faster.
Regarding Inuyasha, well, he HAS overcome ridiculous odds before.  Like, for example, slicing off Sesshomaru's left arm, defeating Ryukotsei, and using the wind scar with a broken arm.  It may be only a matter of time before he learns to control his demonic side.  Having to rely on Tessaiga all the time would not be good, a way would have to be found to learn at least some degree of control over it.
Ultimately though, the whole mythology of Inuyasha is really jacked.  For instance, there is no way in HELL (no pun intended) a living Budha would be tricked by a demon into erecting a holy barrier.  First of all, second, there is no way IN HELL ANY demon would last very long within that barrier.  The more powerful the demon, the more a holy barrier should affect them actually; Sesshomaru should not have even been able to move or walk around within a barrier erected by a Buddha!  How to put this in perspective regarding the difference in power?
Let me see here....  A living Buddha is a nuclear bomb.  Sesshomaru, in comparison, is a BB gun.  Ask any Buddhist; they will tell you the same thing.  A truly enlightened being is far, far more powerful than any demon, and more than a match for the likes of Sesshomaru.
Of course, like I said, that whole mythology is pretty jacked up.  I only watch it because of Inuyasha's deep philosophical underpinnings.  The sexual tension between Kagome and Inuyasha is pretty hilarious also!
later. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.63.78.98 (talk) 10:51, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't the very idea of quantifying the "power" of a Buddhist Saint's Aura somewhat misguided?  A Buddha is not someone with a "huge amount" of "spiritual power", but rather someone who is spiritually awake (that is what the word Buddha actually means).  BTW, that makes the deception by Naraku the least convincing point of the whole story; I see no reason why Sesshomarou or even Kikyo would be particularly weakened by such an aura, since in my conception it would simply make them more honest and perceptive about themselves.  Sesshomarou would barely be affected by that, as he was indeed. Luis Dantas 03:31, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sesshomaru vs. Inuyasha 

message: Shouldn't the parts about the Tenseiga's and Tokijin's attacks be removed from this article? I think it makes more sense to move them to their own articles (the Tenseiga and Tokijin articles). The swords may use some or most of Sesshomaru's power, but they have their own power as well, and Sesshomaru is probably unable to use attacks such as the Dragon Strike unarmed. That's why I think the sections should be moved. This has already been done with Tessaiga, and the Tessaiga's attacks are not in Inuyasha's article. Mathew Williams 04:48, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me--88wolfmaster 03:19, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tenseiga and Tokijin 

message: Does anybody know what the thing on his shoulder is? --Count Mall 01:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The character book says its part of his body. --Slotedpig 03:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Which is really weird, given that we, at different times, see the beginning and end of it at the same time. We call it mokomoko-sama or the Fluffy, by the way. Mokomoko-sama is something Takahashi called it... and, BTW, who wrote the character book? 74.70.7.38 17:06, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

text: You can only see the ends in the anime. That's a mistake. The character book was released by Sunrise/Viz which RT approved of. --Slotedpig 23:07, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How do you know it's a mistake? Takahashi also added input to the anime--an anime that bears more proof of what the mokomoko-sama is, given that, as you put it, Takahashi only approved of a character book, as opposed to being proof in one of InuYasha's incarnations. I'm only saying, that in terms of 'authenticity' or 'canon', the anime should come out superior over something Takahashi just 'approved' of. 74.70.7.38 04:49, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Only not. RT has nothing to do with the anime. The animators changed all kinds of things in the anime. They don't need RT's approval to do that. The anime is not superior to the character book either, since it uses RT's own descriptions of the characters not the anime's interpertation.--Slotedpig 13:12, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fluffy bandolier thing 

message: Let me say this right away: the Examples of his growing compassion section needs to be rewritten or spliced into other sections. It sticks out as a sore thumb, and completely lowers the articles quality. I'd have less qualms with it, if the information presented in it got rewritten into a character history or biography, and only the key points of the section stayed in it, but it sticks out negatively. 74.70.7.38 05:28, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite growing compassions section 

message: Seems to be the only thing of debate lately other than silly vandalism.  Which way should it be left?  - Desirsar,
3 April 2008  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Desirsar (talk • contribs) 11:36, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poison Claws vs. Dokkusou 

message: What does 'saiga' or 'seiga' mean? Is that fang? I was reading that both swords have the last word with either spelling (not just with Wiki) and I was curious.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.217.47.204 (talk) 03:57, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small things 

message: I would fix the page, but my TW isn't working for some reason. D: ムーカオズルール(Talk to Moo) 23:26, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can somebody fix the page? 

message: The contents of this page were removed by vandals, and now my TW isn't working (as mentioned above), and I cannot revert the edit. ムーカオズルール(Talk to Moo) 23:29, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don't Delete.