Talk:List of Egged bus routes in Israel

message: Let's decide...
===Vote===
Include all major interim stations - major is decided by the editor
#Only sensible option. Comment: what are their own preferences? How am I supposed to find out? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel575 (talk • contribs) . 
#Agree. The 921 and 910 are both Haifa-TA, but shouldn't be confused. --Shuki 23:48, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Interim stations

message: Include all major interim stations - major is decided by the editor
#Only sensible option. Comment: what are their own preferences? How am I supposed to find out? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniel575 (talk • contribs) . 
#Agree. The 921 and 910 are both Haifa-TA, but shouldn't be confused. --Shuki 23:48, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vote

message: First of all, it doesn't look like any more people are going to vote in the poll, so you guys win; I'll create a Via column and add some major interim stations. However, keep in mind the following things:
*Please don't unite lines with similar interim stations, every single interim station can easily be found through the Egged website. If you can't find it, do youself a favour and stop editing this article.
*List only major interim stations, that means refrain from listing things such as streets/roads through which the line passes. If I knew the routes of the Jerusalem lines, I'd edit them myself, but that's a problem. I'll try to find out some important interim stations instead.
--  Ynhockey (Talk) 21:50, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Via column is a good idea, but it makes the look very confusing. It should be FROM - VIA - DESTINATION, with the destination column always on the same vertical place. This is confusing to read. I'll see whether I can somehow get that done later today or so.
*No, I cannot find it, due to the great and very functional, highly useful Egged website, which definitely deserves the consumers' websites prize for 2006.
*That's mentioned here. In Jerusalem, there are (for the city buses) no 'major interim stations', just streets hich they pass through. How else do you want me to write it, "The bus stop in front of Yechezkel St. 56"? The way I wrote it is the very simplest clearest and shortest way that clarifies the exact route of the bus, and it stops along every stop at that route, as city buses do. --Daniel575 14:52, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Several notes

message: According to the Egged website, it's Jerusalem (CBS) - Bnei Brak. Actually, it stops first at the interchanges between Gannot and Bnei Brak along highway 4, then it goes all the way through Bnei Brak and a small part of Ramat Gan, and actually ends in Ramat Gan (but not really in or near the city center). Line 402 ends at the same place in Ramat Gan, though it takes a slightly different route for the last part. So in fact, both 400 and 402 are Jerusalem - Ramat Gan via Bnei Brak. But for the purpose of clarity, we call it Jerusalem - Bnei Brak, as Egged also does. About Givatayim: a few buses during the morning rush hour continue from Bnei Brak via Ramat Gan to Givatayim. That's only a few buses and isn't significant. So to list it as being a Jerusalem - Givatayim line is wrong. You could add a note noting that some buses in the morning continue to Givatayim and that on the other side, some buses in the evening continue to Geulah. (Or would it now be Jerusalem Geulah - Givatayim?) --Daniel575 14:52, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Line 400

message: There are three terms in use for this place: Savidor, Merkaz (railway), Terminal 2000. Of these three, I believe that the term Merkaz/Central Railway Station is the most common. I've never heard anyone call it Terminal 2000. If I hadn't been on that bus just yesterday, I wouldn't know where Terminal 2000 was. I think 'Central Railway Station' (and an article with that name) is the best name, because that's clear to everyone. Just to clarify: I really thought Dan line 25 passes there, so when I had to go from Yaffo to there, I asked the driver "savidor, ken?" and he said "lo, kach kav 18". I was quite confused, since I did see a stop of line 25 at 'savidor' when I got there with line 18. Apparently even the bus drivers get confused with all these names, let alone a tourist! How is a tourist supposed to know that Savidor / Merkaz (Central Railway Station) / Terminal 2000 all refer to the same place? 'Central Railway Station' is clear to everyone. --Daniel575 21:49, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The bus terminal is called Terminal 2000. It is also called Arlozorov Terminal, and that's Egged's official name for it. The bus does not enter a railway station, the terminal just happens to be near the rail station. Therefore, it is completely incorrect to label the terminal as anything other than 2000 or Arlozorov. However, Center Railway Station can be added in brackets (similarly to Bar Ilan). --  Ynhockey (Talk) 08:12, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Savidor is valid, but really not in use anymore. Google barely refers to it as a bus/train station, though I didn't google it in hebrew. 'Masof 2000' is a more widely known name for the bus terminal adjacent to the train station. Technically, masof 2000 is not the train station, and other buses stop near the train station but do not enter masof 2000 either. Daniel575, you cannot use egged bus drivers for WP:V, unless you get his/her name and driver number too :-) --Shuki 21:40, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Eh, I thought Daniel was the one who referred to Egged bus drivers... :S --  Ynhockey (Talk) 22:46, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Who exactly should check the talk page, Ynhockey? "(However, Center Railway Station can be added in brackets (similarly to Bar Ilan).)" --Daniel575 00:08, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are completely misinterpreting everything said on this page. For the last time: please stop using the via (דרך) column for explanation. If you don't know what the word via means, look it up. Secondly, you yourself said that adding the thing in brackets breaks the formatting. Therefore an obvious conclusion can be reached that it's better left out entirely. Thirdly, Wikipedia is not a travel guide. I think my head will explode if I have to repeat this again. I realize you are new to Wikipedia, please take the time to read its policies and guidelines. Thanks. --  Ynhockey (Talk) 02:57, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: TA Savidor/Merkaz/2000

message: Sorry if my edit was misunderstood, but yn, you are wrong. There are 3 distinct types of routes: 'regular' (641), express (947), direct (605). --Shuki 21:45, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess 'direct' means non-stop? Then both the 405 and 480 would also be 'direct'. --Daniel575 21:50, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the 'express' is distinctly different from the 'yashir'/direct/non-stop routes. --Shuki 21:59, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  maasef, express, direct 

message: YN, if something is going by BarIlan (164), Wingate (601), or Tzomet Raanana (561) but not going 'into it', then IMO, we should still consider it part of the route. Another ex: If someone want to from TA to Bar Ilan, I'd tell them to take the 68 (okay, not egged anymore). While it doesn't stop there, or go through campus, it is a major stop along the way. While Aluf Sadeh is a mini-terminus, it is much less distinct/notable than a university. --Shuki 22:03, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct, I think Bar Ilan is important enough to be noted as a station itself, and so is Aluf Sadeh. --Daniel575 22:14, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

text: If you look at my edit, you'll see that I wrote Aluf Sade (Bar Ilan). The reason is that Aluf Sade is next to Bar Ilan on the same road and including both of them is redundant and complicates the page. Again, despite you guys having won the vote, remember that Wikipedia is not a travel guide. For that, see WikiTravel. --  Ynhockey (Talk) 04:48, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: LOL, could we invite more people here? We need more ideas. --Shuki 21:44, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I already messaged a bunch of people who often contribute to Israel-related articles (e.g. IZAK), but none seem to be active right now. Message more users if you like, hopefully someone will be interested in this subject. However, please message only those who have been on Wikipedia for a long time, because many of our arguments are a question of policy/guidelines on Wikipedia, so the person needs to understand both Egged and Wikipedia. --  Ynhockey (Talk) 08:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  more Interim stations 

message: There are now two lines 164. Should we split up this subsection into a part about the Gush Dan region and the Jerusalem region? I think we should, this would get confusing. --Daniel575 22:13, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it should be written as it they were 2 completely different lines. --  Ynhockey (Talk) 04:50, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are many other duplicate numbers, mainly single and double digits.--Nitsansh 00:53, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Multiple short-distance intercity lines with identical number

message: Are there Egged buses to Egypt? -ReuvenkT C E 01:13, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I remember there was a Tel Aviv - Cairo route about 10 years ago but it's no longer operational. I don't know about any other Egged lines to Egypt. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 10:40, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Egypt 

message: What is the name history, please?
Egg reads like vandalism, or an onboard delicatessen | diner.
What's cbs?  Columbia Broadcast System?  It's a bus network?
Thank You.
[[ hopiakuta  | [[ %c2%a1 %c2%bf  %7e%7e%7e%7e  -]] 18:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Egged is a Hebrew word for 'union'. CBS is short for Central Bus Station.--Shuki 20:35, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the name history, please? 

message: The Tel Aviv Central Bus Station was featured in the Guiness World Records book of 1994 as the largest station in the world. Since then the situation may have changed, but this is doubtful. Maybe that could be used as a source at least for a statement like "in 1994, the station was the largest in the world". -- Ynhockey (Talk) 07:31, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have the book for 2005 and there is no mention of it.--Gilabrand 08:24, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The same record isn't usually listed twice unless it's very general, so I'd be surprised if it appeared in the 2005 book anyway. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 20:53, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Largest station in the world 

message: Just putting this out there: I am getting my information from Egged's new online trip planner: . I was not involved at all with the AFD for this article. Just want to say that we now have a complete source and can get this list complete. -ReuvenkT C 10:24, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source of information 

message: In what order should we put the cities? They seem to be in no particular order right now. Also, I just finished working on the Beer Sheva lines. Most of them are also Dimona lines. How do we do that? Do we make a Dimona section with the same lines?-ReuvenkT C 10:26, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Order of the cities 

message: I think this article should be split into 4:
*List of intercity Egged bus lines
*List of Egged bus lines in Haifa
*List of Egged bus lines in Jerusalem
*List of urban Egged bus lines
The reason is that this article is becoming much too large and somewhat of a mess, and it would help to split it into more manageable sections. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 18:29, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 12:59, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split? 

message: Has anyone noticed that Egged recently changed their Jerusalem routes and bus numbers and that much of this chart is out of date? Yoninah (talk) 23:21, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Out of date

message: Where is Bar Ilan Junction? (Bar Ilan is the name of a road.) --Redaktor (talk) 19:07, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know which one - it could either be the junction next to Bar Ilan University on Road 4 with Road 471 (eastern side of Ramat Gan), or the city junction in Jerusalem of Road 436 (Sderot Golda Meir - Shmuel HaNavi) and Road 417 (Bar Ilan / Hativat Harel) streets. If it's about Jerusalem city buses, it would be the latter. Links: http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=32.064456,34.839627&spn=0.010874,0.022724&z=16 and  http://maps.google.com/maps?t=h&hl=en&ie=UTF8&ll=31.795707,35.220018&spn=0.011946,0.017295&z=16  --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 19:21, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bar Ilan Junction 

message: Since I believe the bus line numbers are maintained/decided by the Ministry of Transportation, and Egged is losing more and more lines to other companies (Jerusalem Corridor to Superbus; Sharon area to Veolia, for example), I think we should simply make this a list of all bus lines in Israel, and add a column for "company". Fact is a similar list does not exist for any of the other companies, and I do think it would be useful to have. We should include Dan, Kavim, Superbus, Illit, Veolia, Egged Taavura, Galim, and others (which did I miss?) and simply list for each line which company runs that line. --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 12:43, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually lists exist for some of the other companies in their main articles. Or at least existed. In any case, I support this as long as only inter-city lines are included. Making a list of all internal lines for all companies would be too long a list IMO. —Ynhockey (Talk) 11:17, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

text: Agree. I think the local bus lines do have a place on Wikipedia though - they should be listed as sections of the "Transportation in ...." articles, such as :Transportation in Jerusalem and :Transportation in Tel Aviv. --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 18:12, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If there are no objections, I'm planning to move ahead tomorrow. --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 09:16, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Turning this page into a list for all companies

message: It is indeed Netziv, 100% for sure. Just to confirm. :) --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 10:36, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Natziv/Netziv