Talk:Lowestoft

message: **What does this have to do with the wikipedia articles? More suitable for a Lowestoft forum**
I have lived in Lowestoft for 15 years. I am still an ousider The obsession with traffic problems and certainly the religion of the third river crossing have been the only "campaign" from the locals I have witnessed in those fifteen years. Somehow the fallacy that building their beloved third river crossing will  solve the town's problems needs to be stressed - evidence found to include here. After all businesses flock to London, Manchester and many other places which have terrible transport problems; I think all the "traffic stuff" on this page should be removed - of no consequence. OK perhaps just a sentence or two. Including it makes the town (and its inhabitants) look obsessed by an issue of relatively little consequence. The replies to my pointing this out will probably prove me right... What about the lowest education standards in Suffolk? What about the lack of new industries with well paid jobs - so that anyone with qualifications must move? Not a word, not a dicky-bird...   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.20.169 (talk) 16:44, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Third River Crossing 

message: I recently came back to this article and noticed that any mention of John Edward Hloover has been deleted, and in its place irrelevancies regarding the Yarmouth herring trade. As all Roman Hill pupils had to engage in studies of the beach village, we were all taught that Lowestoft is a consonental shift from 'Hloovers Toft' based on the founder of the beach village.
-- On a similar topic (which is why I put it here - I'm not the above user who failed to sign their comment), I just edited this section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowestoft#Waveney_Sunrise_Scheme_And_Associated_Works and removed the false statement regarding no-one knowing who Thomas Crisp was (In relation to Tom Crisp Way's naming).  82.27.16.206 (talk) 18:46, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's in a name 

message: The following quoted paragraph (Sunrise scheme section) in my opinion lacks neutrality "local government not finding out or asking the wishes of local people, and instead imposing badly thought out, expensive schemes which are if anything detrimental."
Have flagged it for POV Check.
You Decide :)
The fact that these obviously subjective observations are offered as fact disqualify it from serious consideration. Whilst the sunrise scheme has its detractors, it also has its admirers. (But I don't particularly like it).
The Sunrise (or as we like to call it The Sunset) Scheme I live in Lowestoft and none of my family have heard anything good said about the scheme except by the designers, builders and the local council. The money for this and the South Lowestoft Relief Road should have been used for a third crossing. All these two schemes have done is waste about 45 million GBP of taxpayers money. Foggy dew 19:30, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sunrise Scheme Neutrality 

message: I was just doing a disambiguation repair on this page and I noticed that an anonymous editor had added some information to the Geography section that is written in the first person and contains several statements that show POV. I have removed the information from the article and placed it here:
* Lowestoft is one of tyhe most popular seaside resourts in britian. It is like a smaller version of LA with less of gene simmons. I currently attend kirkley high school located in the south side of the town. This is the school the darkness went to and where the channel 4 series "rock school" was filmed. In that series the naritor described lowestoft as one of the most rundown seaside towns in britian. This isnt true. Every town and their good parts and their bad parts and the progeam focused on the bard parts of the town. Lowestoft is actually a beuitful place to go on hoilday and to live in.
: Lowestoft also has an annual airshow that attracts in excess of 300 000 people a year. It sees planes like the harrier and the eurofighter typhoon, making this one of the most popular arishows in britan.
Could an editor more familiar with the subject review the information, correct it and return it to the article if necessary? Thanks. Road Wizard 16:56, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Lowestoft is a popular seaside resort. The music group The Darkness were students at Kirkley High School. There is an annual air show that attracts over 300000 spectators per year. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.253.48.12 (talk) 17:08, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information written in the 1st person 

message: It would be interesting and rewarding if someone from Lowestoft could add some more information on the Lowestoft Witch Trials in the 17th century; I've come across bits and pieces on them on the web and there have been books written on them. They seem fascinating. Any takers? -- PD 19:01, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lowestoft Witch Trials in the 17th Century 

message: It is reasonable to include the facts about commonly held opinions in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.1.184.77 (talk) 21:50, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Facts about opinions 

message: Looking again at this article after some months it seems that someone had been through it and censored out all the negative and critical things. Would anyone like to try to justify this? 80.2.222.220 12:10, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism of local government has been removed 

message: I was surprised to read in the paper (The Journal 28 March 2008) that the proposed school to the rear of Walmer Road has been scrapped because the land has been used by the public as open space for over twenty years, and by law it can be given town or village green status which prevents any development. The article only said that people walked their dogs on it, and children played on it - exactly what happened at Kirkly Fen before the so-called bypass was built. 
Does this mean that Kirkley Fen could have become a town green if someone had applied for this, and thus the building of the new road would have been prevented? I've felt really depressed about this as it could have saved me and thousands of other people the daily psychological torment of loud road noise, and saved the public the wasting of tens of millions of pounds of public money. Please could someone tell me the truth. 80.0.107.16 (talk) 14:00, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kirlkley Fen as "Public Open Space" 

message: i would like to ask if anyone could add anything to the refernces in popular culture i started.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by The lake district (talk • contribs) 18:29, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Reference in Arthur Ransome children's book Peter Duck. The 'Wild Cat' sets out on its ocean voyage from Lowestoft. 142.188.27.142 (talk) 19:22, 6 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  references in popular culture 

message: I've temporarily reverted the page to it's May 7th position after a bunch of edits that I don't really understand. The first section after the lead is the primary reason for this as it reads as a letter or advert. May be an over-reaction and it could have been fixable, but I need some time to take a look at it - at least this puts us in a situation where we have an article which is usable for a period of time. Can I strongly suggest that we deal with this article on the talk page before getting into what increasingly appears to be a series of circular edits? -- Blue Square Thing (talk) 06:09, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for this. User 06readc has made repeated such edits and has been flagged for vandalism, and is unresponsive to postings on his/her talk page. Further action needs to be taken against them. The content of this article has hardly changed over the last few weeks edits, it has just been formatting and circular edits mainly adding/deleting unreferences, unnotable, irrelevant or similar text, such as the 'advert' you describe. A fair bit more needs stripping out IMHO, if anyone wants to delete sections or add new content then deffo talkpage it, but I encourage anyone doign formatting and referencing edits to just go ahead because the article really needs it. Good luck getting 06readc to enter discussion though, no lcuk so far. a_boardley (talk) 07:43, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  has also uploaded images that are copyright violations, which I deleted yesterday.  The account may have to be blocked if this behavior continues. Chick Bowen 15:11, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that - and also for putting a comment on the user's talk page directing them here -- Blue Square Thing (talk) 18:15, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  May 2009 

message: Let's get this clear once and for all. Lil Chris IS notable. This is not a value judgement on him as a person, but having had his own television series, appearing in numerous other television shows, releasing two albums with Top 40 singles, appearingon 'Celebrity' TV shows and being a recognisable name, amongst other things, there is no denying he is notable. So:
* do not delete him from notable people
* do not add inflamatory statements about his status to any mention of him.
Whatever your opinion of him or his reasons for success, they aren't of consequence to a listing of notables. If they are really relevant, they might find a home on a 'Controversy' section on his page, but I doubt it. In any case, they'd need cites. No opinions, NPOV please.
Feel free to enter discussion here. Ignoring this and going ahead with such deletions or adding grafitti to his text on this page will be classed as vandalism. I'm open to discussion if anyone else is.
a_boardley (talk) 11:17, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lil Chris 

message: My i ask why someone has deleted Dan Hawkins from the notable people section? If his brother Justin is listed do should he. 
lake district  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.44.57.82 (talk) 15:14, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Replaced. a_boardley (talk) 16:23, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was Dan Hawkins deleted from notable people? 

message: On the local radio station one of the band members mentioned that they used to live in Lowestoft and often performed gigs in the town, i did not know if this should be added to notable people? lake district 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Yeah_You%27s  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.145.182.115 (talk) 11:39, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find an online reference for this then go for it :) a_boardley (talk) 13:30, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm, that link is actually just a text-grab from Wikipedia, itself unreferenced. Bit of a circular argument. I'm happy to let it stay unless anyone objects, in the meantime keep an eye out for better references. Else just add the radio show as a citation? a_boardley (talk) 22:05, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

text: It's fine, but all it says is 'Lowestoft roots', I wouldn't want to see further inof than that without evidence but 'The Yeah Yous - band with Lowestoft roots (cite)' would be fine. a_boardley (talk) 17:10, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The yeah You's Lowestoft connection 

message: The bad assessments of the council and planning department by government auditors should be included - its not supposed to be just a publicity brochure for the place, but a balanced view. Ignoring bad things is going to keep things bad. Other things to include would be mention of the very bad traffic problems the town has, and the various eyesores. Desperately needs a by-pass I think. For a little town its got a hell of a lot of traffic. 78.149.201.215 (talk) 14:16, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Include poor assessments of the council and planning department for balanced view 

message: The article says: Lowestoft is probably the most easterly town in the United Kingdom. What a strange remark for an encyclopedia. I've never been in Lowestoft, but after checking a map I removed the word probably. It is the most easterly town in the UK. Jaho (talk) 22:58, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''probably'' the most easterly town 

message: I'm proposing that we merge any notable content which can be found at the Sparrow's Nest page into the Lowestoft page. I'm sure the limited content on the page can easily be integrated into the Lowestoft page and help to make the article on Lowestoft a bit better at the same time. Any thoughts or opinions? Blue Square Thing (talk) 17:19, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Merge completed as part of rewrite. Blue Square Thing (talk) 11:39, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh dear, I missed that merge. What a shame. HMS Europa/Sparrow's Nest had a deeply unique historic role in the second world war, and the article needed expanding, not deleting. Very sad it has been wiped out just like that. --Epipelagic (talk) 12:33, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry - not intentionally done to lose stuff on Europa at all - and I've tried to put that stuff back in this article (I hope!). The issue with the article was probably more to do with it's focus on the park and so on rather than Europa - the Europa section really hadn't had anything added to it since 2005. I wouldn't have a problem with working on an article if you wanted to - I've come across some references already - some of them are in this article. Might make some sense to create it as Editing HMS Europa (shore establishment) though? Blue Square Thing (talk) 12:54, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger Proposal: [[Sparrow's Nest]] 

message: I am looking on improveing lowestoftb artical by putting two topics together. Places of interest put togerther with shopping and services. This will save space on artical and two subjects can be covered at same time. When two subjects are put together it can be renamed; "locally famed locations" i should not see to much of a problem in doing this.
:Don't do so. Changed my mind. Needs some work though to tie everything together. See WP:UKCITIES. Blue Square Thing (talk) 07:31, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Places of interest" put togerther with; "shopping and services" renamed as Locally Famed Locations 

message: At top of Lowestoft artical it sais; "IS A TOWN IN SUFFOLK, ENGLAND" however; i think this should be added that Lowestoft is a Seaside Resort Town thus saying; "IS A SEASIDE RESORT TOWN IN SUFFOLK, ENGLAND" and a new catergory should be added; "CATERGORY; SEASIDE RESORTS IN ENGLAND".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Darkcover21 (talk • contribs) 12:07, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a town first and foremost. Yes, we need to address the tourist industry and it's importance somewhere I agree. And that will probably get mentioned in the lead eventually. But it's a town first. Blue Square Thing (talk) 12:29, 10 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seaside Resort 

message: Not proposed by me, but to start the discussion, I agree entirely. Blue Square Thing (talk) 22:11, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merger of Sunshine Coast 

message: Not proposed by me either (you're really supposed to start a discussion when you propose the merger btw!). I tend to disagree - too much content here anyway and the Port is reasonably notable in itself - I think it would survive an AfD easily for example. My opinion is that it would lead to the main Lowestoft article, which is already rather too long imo, becoming increasingly bloated. A more suitable merge, imo, would be to merge the Port of Lowestoft with Lake Lothing as there's already some duplication there, although that wouldn't necessarily reflect the outer harbour.
Pros and cons of this. I'd suggest seeking a wider range of opinions about what to do with it, although I would tend to think that merging with Lowestoft would be the least helpful option unless a major prune is going to be undertaken - see, for examples, Kings Lynn or Fleetwood, both of which are also ABP ports. Blue Square Thing (talk) 22:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: We should take that sort of discussion to the article talk page. I'd suggest leaving the merge proposal in place for a week or so and see if anyone else has any interest in it first. Then close that and we discuss the sorts of things we could put in the article without overcrowding it with lists and avoiding the potential of it being seen as spam (an issue which has effected articles associated with Lowestoft in the past fwiw). Certainly Brooke Marine, for example, needs to be mentioned. And I tried to find some sources for the measurements and failed dismally - which is one reason I rvted some of that stuff. Blue Square Thing (talk) 07:47, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merger of Port of Lowestoft 

message: New section added culture and community this was added to improve other artical sections as part of a clean up and was disscused with user:Blue Square Thing this section should not be removed. (Darkcover21 (talk) 20:35, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It makes naff all difference if it's been "discussed" with me or not. It can still be reverted or changed by anyone. Only when some sort of consensus is reached could you begin to argue that way. I certainly don't believe there's any consensus on the content of these sections yet --Blue Square Thing (talk) 23:35, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Culture and Community 

message: I have ofen been told bye User;Charles not to list things in wiki. However; notable people section is in list format. Allow; for this particuler section it is difficult to put it in any other format other than lists. Otherwise; in paragraphs it looks all jumbled up information. Where as a list seperates people and there definition clearly.(Darkcover21 (talk) 23:10, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that depends how you write it. Blue Square Thing (talk) 23:52, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable People 

message: Looking through the notable people section, I'm thinking that The Darkness should be listed as the actual band members? as the section is actually notable 'people'. Does anyone agree? Also not all members of the band are from Lowestoft. I think the members were listed as individuals before but were merged together a while ago?
I also think Reece Ritchie should be added to the notable people section, as his popularity is rising very quickly, but I think I have seen a discussion about him somewhere before on here? I didn't want to get it added if someone disagrees with his notability?
Ryublue (talk) 10:30, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable People - The Darkness and Reece Ritchie 

message: Unfortunately a number of the images in use on this page just now are copyvios - the red arrows, Kirkley shopping centres, Historic High Street, Britten Centre and Claremont Pier certainly are - I've indicated where on my user page and have tagged them as speedies over at the Commons - so the chances are they'd disappear. These are all the responsibility of Darkcover21 oddly enough. I think the RN patrol one probably definitely is a copyvio as well - and given that the others are I'd be concerned about the South Pier one as well.
Sorry about that - I'd delete them myself usually, although it's not a bad thing to have pointed it out here. There are loads of good ones on geograph we can replace these with eventually fwiw. Blue Square Thing (talk) 20:37, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Images have now been removed by a bot. Anyone with any suggestions as to a new infobox image? The old one (which I wasn't aware was a copyvio, although given the source it seems obvious now) of the town hall always struck me as a strange and dull choice. What sums up Lowestoft and will work in the infobox? Blue Square Thing (talk) 13:52, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image copyvios 

message: Given the issues that this article has had recently (and not so recently tbf) I've been working on a rewrite in my sandbox - you can take a look here: User:Blue Square Thing/draft Lowestoft article. Whilst I'm very aware of WP:OWN issues, it's been suggested tome by a couple of people who have seen it that it might be useful to make a more or less wholesale replacement of the current article with it and then use it as a base for moving forward. I'd like to gather more opinion on that!
I don't make any assumption that the sandbox version is "finished". It's not, and it desperately needs other people to write some content as my written style is a bit rubbish sometimes. But it might make a better base than the current article. The specific things I'm looking at include:
* removing some of the more recent history and using that as the base for a traditional industries section of the economy section
* moving the Lowestoft Porcellain bit back where it was after history - it has quite a few links into it and it does seem to have been quite important. This might fit as a subsection within economy though
* rewriting the economy stuff totally - mainly to get rid of the spam it currently includes. The renewable energy stuff will go in there too
* putting the airshow in with tourism - but this may need it's own section (see my comments above)
* focusing the culture and community section on local stuff rather tan tourism stuff and adding a short (at the minute) landmarks section
* notable people converted to prose, although this needs cutting as per discussions above
There's still lots to do - some more on the offshore industry perhaps, and along with that more reference to links with Yarmouth probably. The Lead needs lots of work - I'm rubbish with leads - demography needs working on (I have some numbers but it'll take some time to develop them) and I'm not that interested in government stuff or religion. Images will be needed eventually as well.
I'd really appreciate opinions on whether or not wholesale replacement is a good idea. Given the history of this article I can't stress enough that I'm not trying to own it and that a range of opinions is crucial.
In related stuff, I've prodded articles on Lowestoft Dockland Railway and Lowestoft local elections and may well do so to Lowestoft Mayor - or merge it anyway. I also feel it might be useful to archive this page - perhaps sticking everything pre-2011 in an archive? Blue Square Thing (talk) 10:20, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the rewrite is a real improvement on the existing article. I would propose its adoption as a base to work on now, whilst archiving the existing page. U+003F? 11:21, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with a replacement and soon as possible. I do not know if there is a relevant policy but if it is left too long, there is a danger that someone will start adding useful information to the current article, making it harder to replace. nb Have you monitored for new content since your rewrite?  I was considering expanding the government section but held off because there are two versions lurking!  Putney Bridge (talk) 12:04, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone want to oppose this? I'll look to copy stuff across at some point in the next 24 hours otherwise. Blue Square Thing (talk) 09:29, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

text: I oppose why should just you get to rewrite entire article. You should let other users contribute to article. Before you replace article with your version it should be looked at and approved by administrator. Otherwise your edits do not seem constructive and may be seen as spam or vandalism. (92.29.114.84 (talk) 12:06, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: All fair points, which is why I've canvassed for opinion here and in two other places as well. To clear up one specific point, it's not *my* version I'm looking to place here, it's a starting point for an improved version - and very much only a starting point. As I've indicated above I'm very concious that there are sections which I've only very roughly developed or not developed at all. Do you have an objection to using a rewrite as a starting point or is there some preference for the current version over a rewrite? Blue Square Thing (talk) 12:31, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm happy for it to be included asap. After all of the vandalism over the last month from Dark21 I think something needs to be done and a re-write base is good. It's not Blue rewriting the whole article alone as suggested by 92.29.114.84, but giving us all a base to improve on. Someone needs to and I'm happy for Blue to take the lead. Ryublue (talk) 12:35, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I would assume that Blue Square has used the live article as the base for his version in which case there is no real difference between editing in the Main space and User space. We just need to be careful that we do not lose any recent edits to the Main article. Putney Bridge (talk) 18:27, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, that's what I did. I *think* I've picked the good edits from the most recent stuff. I also went back - way back at times - to old edits and found some really quite useful stuff there that seemed to have been gotten rid of when some of the gamers were playing with this article. Inevitably I'll have missed something of course and I'm sure that there are places I'll have trimmed too hard, but it's only a start. I will go back through and take a look again at a few things though. Blue Square Thing (talk) 18:38, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

text: Fwiw, 2.101.11.234 has been identified as a sockpuppet of Darkcover21 - Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/Darkcover21  Blue Square Thing (talk) 07:25, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some rewrite proposals 

message: Why is it when i try and contribute to this artical or ones related to it. People try and stop me from editing. Especially when the other people do not give a toss or dam and no care what so ever for Lowestoft or other articals about things in it. (92.28.247.119 (talk) 14:31, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What are peoples problems?  

message: I made a request for partial protection on this page earlier today (at Wikipedia:Requests_for_page_protection#Lowestoft). I count 6 IP addresses, all probably sockpuppets of Darkcover (and reported as such), editing today, including an uncompleted AfD (again) and a Speedy note (again). Ho hum. Blue Square Thing (talk) 22:30, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for Partial Protection made 

message: A surfer from London has died after getting into difficulty off coast at Lowestoft, Suffolk. I was thinking whether there could be a little mention of this on Lowestoft artical. As surfing is popular sport off Lowestoft coast and this iccident of surfer dieng was notable and rare. There are allot of references for this incident.
*Daily Mail
*BBC News
*East Anglian Daily Times
*Eastern Daily Press
*Oxford Mail
*Sailsbury Journal
*Express and Star
92.29.112.24 (talk) 12:33, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure yet - a bit one event perhaps. I imagine it should be possible to build it into the section where lifeguards etc... are mentioned? Anyone want to have a go (ip - place it here if you need to for now and it can be worked in by someone else). Blue Square Thing (talk) 13:12, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  London Surfer Dies Off Coast at Lowestoft, Suffolk 

message: Note guidance at WP:UKCITIES which says:
:A note on notable shopping centres (of regional or national notability). (my emphasis)
The Britten Centre, London Road North, Kirkley shops, the Triangle Market place or even the Historic High Street are not notable in a regional or national context. Nor, for that matter, is your best mates uncle's paper shop or the oh so helpful carpet store down the road that did your nanas front room on the cheap. The very brief mentions we already have here are probably way too much anyway. The article doesn't need non-notable trivia like that getting in the way. It's been added time and again - let's actually work on the areas the article needs work to move it beyond B status. Blue Square Thing (talk) 15:19, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've requested the protection be restored. —Jeremy v^_^v Components:V S M 01:24, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retailing 

message: Does anyone know the best place to find population data? I noticed the population used to be 72,339 but was changed recently to 
64,358. I've looked in the 2001 census and the population was 57,746 ten years ago. Does anyone have the true value? Or should we wait until the 2011 data is available? Ryublue (talk) 09:54, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The figure includes Carlton Colville, which seems to be the way Suffolk CC does it (the source might want to be changed to this actually?). I think it probably makes some sense to include CC as in just about every practical sense it's part of Lowestoft I think. The 2008 estimate figures probably do indicate something closer to 72,000 I imagine. I *think* some editors prefer the official census data, particularly for bigger settlement articles like this. I'm not averse to using a 2008 estimate - perhaps in addition in the demography section? But you may be right about leaving it till the 2011 figures come out. Blue Square Thing (talk) 10:50, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ah I see thanks! I Didn't realise that CC wasn't included in data! I'd definitely include CC as part of Lowestoft. Official data is definitely best I think, but yes I think it'd be sensible to wait until the new numbers are available! Thanks for clearing up! Ryublue (talk) 13:16, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

message: Ive added Pakefield Lighthouse as a Landmark it has a referance.
Pakefield Lighthouse, located at Pontin's Holiday Park on cliff tops in Pakefield at Lowestoft, it was built and opened in 1831 but light was first lit in 1832.Pakefield Lighthouse, Btinternet, 2001. Retrieved 2011-05-21. It stands 34 feet above sea level and emits a red light which has a range of 9 miles. But it was extinguished in 1864. In 2000 it was converted for use as a coastwatch station as apart of sea safety group.Pakefield Lighthouse, Btinternet, 2001. Retrieved 2011-05-21.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.251.234 (talk) 00:39, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Dealt with in the Pakefield article. I don't think it's needed here on balance. There are more important things to deal with here - iirc Pakefield lighthouse doesn't get a mention in any of the tourist related sources - Lowestoft does. Blue Square Thing (talk) 14:23, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pakefield Lighthouse added as Landmark 

message: In Georgaphy ive added November 2007 Tidal Surge with Referances.
In November 2007 there was a North Sea tidal surge which was combination of high tides and gale force winds it was considered worst flooding in 50 years.Exceptional tidal surge puts east coast on emergency alert, Guardian, 2007-09-09. Retrieved 2011-05-22.Thousands flee to higher ground as stormy sea waters gather momentum, Times, 2007-09-09. Retrieved 2011-05-22.Tidal surge 'poses grave danger', BBC News, 2007-09-09. Retrieved 2011-05-22.Tidal surge hits the coast of East Anglia, Telegraph, 2007-09-09. Retrieved 2011-05-22.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.18.89 (talk) 12:17, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't actually happen though. Predicted event which didn't cause any flooding in the town at all as far as I can tell - a little at Aldeburgh iirc, but not much even there. NN Blue Square Thing (talk) 14:23, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Georgaphy, November 2007 Tidal Surge Added 

message: Ive added 2002 flood to geography section with referance.
Torrential Rain caused a flood in town in October 2002.Heavy rainfall/strong winds, Met Office, 2002-10-15. Retrieved 2011-05-22.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.245.7 (talk) 12:58, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Source makes no reference to Lowestoft. It might have flooded, but that source doesn't make it clear that it did. We're a bit flooded out anyway - could prolly use little more if any. Blue Square Thing (talk) 14:23, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geography, 2002 Flood Added 

message: Ive added St Peters Tower Block to Landmarks with a referance.
St Peters Tower Block, located at Chapel Street and Factory Street it is made up of flats and Lowestoft's skyline is dominated by it. In 2003 it was modernised and £2m was spent on repairs. Restoration - St Peter's Court, Lowestoft, BBC Suffolk, 2003-07-17. Retrieved 2011-05-22.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.24.31 (talk) 21:42, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  St Peters Tower Block added to Landmarks 

message: Ive added Plasmor LTD Grain Silo to Landmarks with a referance.
Plasmor LTD Grain Silo, located at Inner Harbour on Commercial Road it is used for shipping grain to and from other countries. It also dominates Lowestoft's skyline and was refurbished by Folcrete Restoration Services LTD.[http://www.remmers.co.uk/uploads/media/rem_cs_plasmor_update.pdf Plasmor Grain Silo
Lowestoft, Suffolk], Remmers. Retrieved 2011-05-22.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.24.31 (talk) 22:27, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plasmor LTD Grain Silo added to Landmarks  

message: First; I have lived in Lowestoft for twenty years. I read this "talk" and the article and see the typical Wikipedia discussions: strange edits praising a town to high-heaven (or doing it down), a total misunderstanding of what academic writing should be (anything negative even if supported is seen as personal own view), obsession with "pet hates" and local political legends (most of which are not specific to the town or so specific to a certain mind-set or pressure group). Also there is a belief here that the word "article" is spelt "artical" and that the possessive "its" is written "it's" If someone is afflicted by dyslexia, that requires our understanding, but when those who simply are sloppy in their writing are "demanding" clean-ups and so on, we know that Wikipedia is going sadly downmarket.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.29.124.17 (talk) 10:35, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  General point 

message: I like to make a suggestion for improving the article in regards to the town's history. Could we include information on the town's development and changes during the latter half of the 20th century, after WWII? There's quite some notable events that occurred here, that could be detailed - the closure of the town's swing bridge; the effect of the flood of 1953; the loss of prominent landmarks in the town, such as Tuttle's Department Store (but not building), and St. John's Church; the decline of the fishing industry; and so forth. I think it would be nice if we could do this. And maybe possibly, more research could be done about the developments of the town in the 19th century; I know we mention Sir Peto and his railway, but perhaps mention of the Port of Lowestoft's construction should be included, the impact of tourism, and such like might be something else to consider? GUtt01 (talk) 22:56, 16 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions for History - Changes in town over latter half of 20th Century & Port Construction/Development in 19th Century 

message: This is now March 2019, and I have edited the Lowestoft entry to reflect the most recent (2015) and final WDC elections, along with the forthcoming 2019 changes to the District Council following amalgamation with Suffolk Coastal.
In doing so, I notice that there are sections which lack the most recent information e.g. 2011 Census data, and a number of other things.
If others are agreeable, I will make a start on what I think may be needed.
Roaringboy 11:56, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Considerable updating throughout is desirable 

message: A seven-word mention when it's shown later in the year will more than suffice. Bmcln1 (talk) 13:28, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Life of Lowestoft film

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :London Road North. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 June 26#London Road North until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 09:46, 26 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "London Road North" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]