Talk:International Phonetic Alphabet/Archive 3

message: This page is very big (70 kB); what about move the description into other article?--Daniel bg 10:16, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  too large 

message: I added the Izhitsa (Ѵ) symbol to the chart, and added a note that it may be used instead of the picture until the proper symbol is encoded as it looks identical to the new IPA symbol. If there's any problem in that please contact me through my talk page. +Hexagon1 (talk) 12:40, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  added the Izhitsa (Ѵ) 

message: I notice the OED uses the character [ɪ] with a horizontal slash, i.e. something like [ɪ], but I don't see any notice of it on this page. Is it simply a variant of [ɨ]? Dforest 07:30, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Almost, but not quite, or so I remember. I haven't seen it for a while, but my guess is that it's a type of schwa. Many English speakers have two phonemic schwa sounds, a closer vowel something like i in bit (but centralized), and a more open sound something like u in but. [ɪ] is the bit-like sound. That is, it is to [ɪ] what [ɨ] is to [i]. kwami 10:28, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  According to the OED pronunciation guide, it means "free variation between /ɪ/ and /ə/".  In English accents with both /ɪ/ and /ə/ in weak syllables, there's a lot of variation as to which words have which, and I presume that's why the OED uses a cover syllable for some words.  For example, one of the "British" pronunciations they give for minuscule is .  --JHJ 17:00, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is [
ɪ
]? 

message: :Hello everyone. I find the transcription used in Caucasian linguistics quite puzzling. Could anybody help me? You can find the symbols and their descriptions here (pages 11-20 and further). How should I transcribe their "emphatic laryngeals"? Any what about their numerous "hissing-husshing" sounds? Tenseness, glottalic consonants, quite a number of laterals...I'm able to transcribe most of them, but I have to admit I haven't been able to transcribe all of them. Any help or advice will be much appreciated. Thank you in advance.--Pet'usek 10:42, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caucasianist vs. IPA transcriptions 

message: The article says IPA can accurately represent the pronounciation of all languages.  If that is true, then it should be a deterministic process to synthesize a pronounciation based on the IPA notation.  For example, one should be able to cut and paste a sequence of IPA into a website and it reads it out accurately using computer synthesized speech.  Does such a software exist?  At first glance, the IPA is awefully hard to learn.  A speech synthesizer would be a very helpful learning aid.  I saw a link to some sound files per individual alphabet, but it is not like reading out any combination of IPA.  Kowloonese 00:41, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It could be done, but it would not sound natural. kwami 07:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If such software exist, it should be linked to the article. Kowloonese 17:34, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speech synthesizer for IPA 

message: I was wondering why this article wasn't at least one of the two? Does anyone else support nomination?  Which of the two would be most appropriate at this point in time, if any?--Andrew c 01:01, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It could almost certainly be a Good article - just nominate it.  It is near Featured article-standard, but I expect there would be objections over the lack of footnotes.  I see there was a Wikipedia:Peer review a few months ago - the comments there were that some history was needed (there is a link to the history article, but a summary here would be nice) and that the article is too dense and further explanatory text is needed. -- ALoan (Talk) 11:35, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm... doing a bit more reseach, the GA seem to discourage long articles like this, and redirect people to peer-review and FA. Maybe this article can be tweeked a bit then nominated for FA and see where it stands?Andrew c 21:56, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured and Good article 

message: Hi, I'd like to invite a phonetics expert with a thin ear to resolve some doubts we have on Talk:Serbo-Croatian language. Basically, we agree that we hear different L's in Bulgarian and Serbian versions of a text, but can't find out what's the phonetic source of the difference. Thanks in advance, Duja 13:02, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And where's that?  Denelson83  03:36, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Reference desk/Language#Thin ear needed. Duja 07:19, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thin ear needed 

message: I've read and reread this article at least a dozen times since I've been on wikipedia. It has the potential to be a featured article, but there are some thorns that are preventing it from reaching that status. So here, I'm gonna outline the cleanup path.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 22:52, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured article work 

message: We currently need the following tasks to be completed before we consider nominating this page for featured article status:
* De-jargonizing the article. A quick look at this article's peer review shows that the reviewers were turned off by the weighted sentences heavily coated in complex facts. Let's bring it close to the casual reader's vernacular.....not necissarily on the level of simple english, but a bit easier than what we have now.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 22:52, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tasks to be completed

message: Some of the names of these sub articles are getting pretty long. Should I abreviate "International Phonetic Alphabet" in the title as "IPA"?--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 15:33, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I think that would be prudent. --  Denelson83  18:57, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I'll move 'em to their new names and put the old ones on RfD.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 20:15, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming issue for subarticles