Talk:Baseball Stars

message: #The lead section is too short. Expand it.
#Try to find the specific release date (day, month), and a screenshot of the game box.
#:Image:Snap008.gif, :Image:Snap014.gif, and :Image:Snap1.gif claim a  tag, when it should be  tag.
#:Image:Baseballstars.gif is lacking fair use rationale. This image should be fine as it is also a screenshot (that I personally took) just like the other three pictures. Masterhatch 20:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  PEER REVIEW SUGGESTIONS - To improve the article 

message: luck????
I have been playing baseball stars for years. i no longer use my old NES, but rather, i have it downloaded on my computer using nesticle.
i have a question that has boggled me and my friends ever since we started playing it way back when...
What does 'luck' actually do? i mean, i can't figure it out. A player with 0 luck seems no different that a player with 15 luck. Does anyone out there know? Is it just a filler? Masterhatch
How is the spelling chance from defence to defense not necessary? 12.34.246.4 18:23, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is currently a revert war going on here. I believe that your edits were correct, and I am defending them. For many reasons, american spelling should prevail. Baseball is an american game, and the spelling within the game is american. If reverting continues, I will file an RFC for a greater scope of consensus. As it stands, it's 2 (me & you) to 1. Themindset 20:18, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: LOL it looks like you are looking for a war! funny. anyways, i really don't care enough. By the way, your reasoning that since baseball is an american sport, this article should use american spelling still doesn't hold water. Hockey is a Canadian sport but (as i have pointed out before) there are dozens and dozens of articles here on wiki that use American spelling in hockey articles. I was just holding onto the idea that the original article's spelling is the spelling to be used throughout. I am always on the lookout for bad and useless edits and I have always considered an edit to merely change from one style of spelling to another a useless and bad edit. I don't really care enough, but if you really want a war, i can play the game with you. Have a good day and happy hunting! Masterhatch 20:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: sorry about my overly negative comments. I have had a bad day and it i found it rather annoying that someone would so quickly call for an RFC before a proper discussion took place. It just seemed that you were out looking for a war. I apologise. Masterhatch 20:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Understood. If you are suggesting that we discus the edits before reverting them... yours was the first revert. Themindset 21:32, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, mine was the first revert, but i was reverting back to status quo. I don't see your point in telling me that i reverted first as I was just reverting unneccessary editing and reverting back to status quo. Logically, it would have been your revert that would have needed discussing, not mine. You shouldn't have reverted it back until a discussion was completed (since you are the one who was so quick to jump to RFC). I have been involved in enough disputes here on Wikipedia to know that usually status quo is held until an agreement is made. But, like I said, i really don't care that much. Masterhatch 22:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Random comments

message: Overall, i would say it reads much better now. I do have two concerns, though. If this gets suggested as a featured article, people are going to come in and pick the entire article apart. For most of the article, this won't be a problem, but the section about the cheats might be viewed as POV. Much of that entire section of the article might get gutted. Also, some people might suggest that there aren't enough sources to back up the article. Personally I think it is a great article and I would love to see it as a featured article. Masterhatch 02:40, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: They will find all kinds of problems, and that's fine. I don't think the cheats are POV, they are cheats. And I don't think we need to worry about sources, I mean the game itself is the source, and I've played it many many times, as I believe you have. I'm going to give it a once over, and then suggest it for peer review... Themindset 03:58, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: When i came to Wikipedia back in June of 2005, i was still new to the whole concept of how wikipedia works and so when i added and re-wrote much of this article way back when, I could have done a better job. Themindset, you have done a wonderful job at cleaning up this article. Thanks! Oh, and yes, i am an avid fan of baseball stars and i have been playing it for over 15 years. It is the only baseball game that i have never gotten bored of. I guess you never figured out what luck did either, eh? Masterhatch 19:22, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Much better

message: ===The traditional cheat===
It can take a long time to build up a team playing game after game after game. This process can be greatly sped up by "cheating". First, make a new team and then fire all the players with a "max" less than 80. Then spend all of the allotted money on $5000 rookies with a max over 80. Next, make a two team season set at 25 games and make sure that both teams are player controlled. Set it up so that your team pitches first. Send nine pitches down the middle of the plate striking out all three batters. Then, take control of the pitching for the other team and hit (bean-ball) each batter until 10 runs cross the plate. This ends the game in less than two minutes and the winning team gets all the cash. The best team to do this with is the Lovely Ladies (as they have the highest prestige of all preset teams). Do this a few times and make sure only rookies are purchased with a max greater than 80 and a superstar team will be born!
===Super Men's Team===
At the Team Selection screen, move the pointer to the top left corner. Then press Down, Right, Left, Down, Down, Right, Up. Now change the team name from WHEN ISNT IT? to WHEN IT IS. (including the period). 
===Super Women's Team===
Select Make Team and press Down, Right, Left, Down, Down, Right, Up, Up, Down, Up, Down, Up. Change the team name to WHAT IS A WREN? (including the ?). Then change the name to A BIRD. (including the period). Then change the name to WHEN ISNT IT? (including the ?). Finally, change the name to WHEN IT IS. (including the period).
===Perfect pitchers===
There is a way to get a $999,999,000 pitcher without buying him. First, hire a $5,000 rookie with a max over 80. Next, use the "traditional cheat" to acquire lots of money. Power up the pitcher as normal, but do not put any money on prestige or batting abilities. Leave prestige at "0". After the pitcher is full (except for prestige and batting abilities), go to his "batting abilities" and power up the prestige. When the prestige is full on the batting side, the prestige will automatically fill up on the pitcher side too. And voila, you have a pitcher with a max of 90 worth $999,999,000. This method is much cheaper than spending $2,980,000 on a superstar.
This also works on the reverse. If a pitcher is desired who can really hit (with a max of up to 67), do just the opposite. Hire a $5000 rookie pitcher. Most $5000 rookie pitchers have a batting max of between 46 and 52. Fill up the batting (but don't touch prestige) abilities first. Then, go to the pitching abilities and fill up prestige. This will give his batting abilities 15 more max points. If the pitcher's max batting abilities started out at 52, then the added 15 will bring him up to 67.
:There was a way to get a whole wad full of cash. When I used to play this, I would create a team, and when selecting the type (vets, runners, hitters, etc.) I would move the cursor all over the place randomly for about 30 seconds, then make a team. Sometimes it would work, and there would be enough cash to make a perfect team. Does anyone know about this? I must have used some cheat, but didn't know tghe combination and would just get it by luck. --Mista-X 01:06, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The cheats - (removed from main article)

message: There is a way to get a $999,999,000 pitcher without buying him. First, hire a $5,000 rookie with a max over 80. Next, use the "traditional cheat" to acquire lots of money. Power up the pitcher as normal, but do not put any money on prestige or batting abilities. Leave prestige at "0". After the pitcher is full (except for prestige and batting abilities), go to his "batting abilities" and power up the prestige. When the prestige is full on the batting side, the prestige will automatically fill up on the pitcher side too. And voila, you have a pitcher with a max of 90 worth $999,999,000. This method is much cheaper than spending $2,980,000 on a superstar.
This also works on the reverse. If a pitcher is desired who can really hit (with a max of up to 67), do just the opposite. Hire a $5000 rookie pitcher. Most $5000 rookie pitchers have a batting max of between 46 and 52. Fill up the batting (but don't touch prestige) abilities first. Then, go to the pitching abilities and fill up prestige. This will give his batting abilities 15 more max points. If the pitcher's max batting abilities started out at 52, then the added 15 will bring him up to 67.
:There was a way to get a whole wad full of cash. When I used to play this, I would create a team, and when selecting the type (vets, runners, hitters, etc.) I would move the cursor all over the place randomly for about 30 seconds, then make a team. Sometimes it would work, and there would be enough cash to make a perfect team. Does anyone know about this? I must have used some cheat, but didn't know tghe combination and would just get it by luck. --Mista-X 01:06, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Perfect pitchers

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Baseballstars.jpg

message: This game was not produced by Nintendo or any of Nintendo's 2nd or 3rd parties, which is a requirement for a game to be a member of WikiProject Nintendo. I am removing the reference on the top of this page.
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thread_title: Not Part of WikiProject Nintendo

message: currently, the article says: "Luck: This statistic is a purely defensive statistic that places the player closer to the location of a fly or ground ball. A player with maximum defense and luck would play defense flawlessly." I have been playing this game since it came out way back in '89 and i have never seen the difference that luck makes. A player with 0 luck plays no different than a player with 15. I can assure you that no player plays defence flawlessly. How many bad throws has your third baseman made? Unless a source of some sort is referenced, it must be changed. Also, what is the point of that whole maximum score stuff? That should be removed. Masterhatch (talk) 02:02, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll trade your anecdotal evidence for mine: I still play this regularly on my NES and can attest that luck plays a HUGE role. It's not such a big deal when you have your fielders maxed out for speed but when they are slow it makes a very big difference where they are positioned. High luck players often don't even have to move for a fly ball as they are camped directly under it... poor luck means they are constantly having the ball hit over their head or way off to the side etc. HalifaxRage (talk) 19:41, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  luck...what does it do? 

message: This is along the same lines of hiring a team of rookies. What I did was fire everyone on a player created team. Even though they're fired, you can still upgrade their ratings (and cheaply). I spent all my cash on as much prestige as I could buy, and then set up the 25-game series with the Lovely Ladies, using the same tactics mentioned before to make the game end quickly. I would take the cash won and upgrade everyone's prestige until they were all at 15. It takes a full 25 game series against the LL to get enough cash to buy the 90 point superstar once your entire team is at 15.
And a neat trick I learned (that doesn't get you anything in the end, but is fun anyway) is to take 2 player created teams, fire everyone, and then play them against each other using the aforementioned game ending tactics. When you get to the screen telling you how much you won, all nine of the possible monetary numbers keep spinning, but they never give you a total.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.57.91.179 (talk) 22:39, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Traditional cheat to get cash for Superstar 

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message: Is there a source for 'willie' being based on Willie Mays? Willie in the game is slow and plays first base, while Mays was a fleet-footed centerfielder. I think this player is based on Willie McCovey or Willie Stargell.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.128.160.126 (talk) 08:59, 15 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Willie/American Dreams 

message: I removed the statement that Legends of the Diamond used the same engine, because the only source I could find was a random article on the Internet that was cited in the article. It also doesn't make sense that a game developed by TOSE and published by Bandai would be using an engine developed by SNK and at one point licensed to Romstar. Although Legends of the Diamond does seem to take inspiration from Baseball Stars, it doesn't actually play anything like it.
For now I've kept in the fact that Little League Baseball uses the Baseball Stars engine. The game was localized for the US by SNK who also published it in the US, and it does play similarly to Baseball Stars, although in a lot of ways the game is significantly different. I would still like a better source that they're using the same engine though.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by RobsPenName (talk • contribs) 09:59, 12 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Legends of the Diamond/Little League Baseball: Championship Edition