Talk:Types of rape

message: This phenomenon is mentioned in Prison sexuality and should be classified here as well. __meco 17:14, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Female - female rape 

message: A woman should only sue a man for child support if he raped her, never if she raped him. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.234.213.255 (talk • contribs).
Being raped absolves you of responsibility to your child? I definitely don't see the connection.
If it is the child's interests that must be considered then it doesn't matter who pays for it. The man didn't choose to have sex if he was raped so it's unfair for him to pay child support. Why not have the government pay child support in these cases? That way neither person is being treated unfairly.
If the woman has the choice to have an abortion if she is raped, the man should have the choice of having the child aborted if he is raped by a woman. 201.80.110.49 (talk) 15:58, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doesn't seem fair 

message: Are there are any examples of an outside party raping other people together? Would it legally be rape, or would they call it something else?
Rape by proxy Artheartsoul1 (talk) 21:38, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Third Party Rape?

message: I'm surprised it wasn't mentioned earlier. It's surely not less uncommon than the other types mentioned. Is there a formal name for it (like "crape" for "Bro rape")? It's basically the entire Sexual harassment article, but only focused on rape. -88.154.133.164 13:33, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rape of adults by an authoritative figure 

message: Where was it a taboo? Considered by whom? Xx236 14:59, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  taboo topic until 1992 

message: This article doesn't inform about Comfort women. My addition has been removed. If you don't like the form, do it better but don't censor.Xx236 08:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  See [[Comfort women]].  

message: The politically correct term is sexual battery.GOYANKSGONJ 17:53, 17 November 2007 (PST)
:You best be joking 76.95.40.6 (talk) 11:04, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prison rape politically incorrect  

message: Under the heading Blitz Rape, there is the following line: According to United States Department of Justice document Criminal Victimization in the United States, in the United States in 2005, 37,460 white females were sexually assaulted or raped by a black man, while between zero and ten black females were sexually assaulted or raped by a white man.' What does this have to do with blitz rape? It rather seems to me that this is a general statistic (true or not), that is totally out of place. I believe it should be removed. --Mukk 06:25, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias? 

message: I find this Types of Rape page to be unnessacry. Rape is forced acts of sex, no? If you want to make this an article about legal distinctions of types of rape for various countries, that makes sense. Otherwise, I find this to be an article with little value. It should be merged with rape.As is, I find this topic is open to more and more bizarre circumstances of rape being added by vandals.Knowing all the possible ways to commit rape is not needed to understand what rape is, and doesnt further the understanding or knowledge of what rape itself is. All it does is a list a potentially unending list of ways the crime is commited. I think Rape in Wartime is worthy of inclusion, or a link from the main topic page for rape. As is, the page adds little. Just examine this talk page. First entry inculding child support opinions relative to rape?? --Nihilistic Misanthrope 11:20, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Should be merged with Rape 

message: I tagged this sentence:
:possibly because of a lack of social validation that prevents a victim from getting access to support; a problem that domestic violence services combat
with a citation needed tag. Although it may sound logical it still needs a cite, there are a lot of alternatives. For example, it may also be or mostly be because spousal rape is the most traumatic form of rape, since it involves someone you may trust sincerely, love nearly unconditionally and have planned to spend the rest of your life with. The betrayal of such a relationship is likely to be extremeyly traumatic Nil Einne (talk) 15:31, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Spousal rape

message: This section discusses the rapes conducted by German soldiers during World War 2 in great subjectivity (calling "brutal" etc), while remaining totally calm when discussing the - far more numerous - cases of soviet rape of german women. This needs revision for neutrality.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.66.51.170 (talk) 07:50, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rape as a means of warfare

message: I've removed the West Wing reference for this since even the footnote said it was unreliable. Anyone know any good refs on this subject? Olaf Davis | Talk 14:36, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Third-party rape reference 

message: Judicial rape is where someone is punished by ether a legal court, a vigilante court, or a religious court. In many moslem countries a loose or willful woman can be punished by being raped. If a islamic woman offends or insults a man, a sharia court can allow the victims to rape her as punishment.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.62.8.253 (talk) 09:14, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Judicial Rape 

message: I have deleted this section, as it seemed the only purpose of it was to villify Serbians. The war was fought from all sides and atrocities commited by all sides. It seems that the article placing Serbian soldiers next to Nazi army is making the connection of equal evils. I would urge you to rewrite the article or leave it out, because it is not done neautrally. Sorry about my english.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.109.229.132 (talk) 13:31, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serbian soldiers rape 

message: College rape is a major concern with the growing number of Universities. The information in the "College Rape" section is dated from 1992. I believe it would be beneficial for this section to include updated information, as the statistics could have changed from over a decade ago. 
Mngehri (talk) 22:57, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updating college rape section 

message: Please remove. --91.11.103.103 (talk) 18:24, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Legally, it is. Certain persons are determined not to be able to give consent, so intercourse with such people - even if with their agreement - is nonconsensual sex and therefore rape. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:43, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just because states treat it in courts as it were nonconsensual doesn't mean that it is nonconsensual. Calling it rape in some states' laws doesn't make it rape. According to the widely accepted definition of rape, statutory rape isn't rape. Rape seeds aren't rape either! --91.11.108.35 (talk) 11:53, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "states"? This is the English language Wikipedia - it isn't the US wikipedia, and while some States may have different definitions there are some other countries such as the UK, Australia, Ireland, Canada, South Africa and others who do have a form of statutory rape (even if described differently) on the lawbooks. I suggest that you look into the article Statutory rape, and see how you might better summarise it in the Types of rape section. In any event, Statutory rape exists as an offense in most of the English speaking nations and likely the majority of other language law cultures. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:43, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As you said, it is not called "statutory rape" in most jurisdictions. "Statutory rape" is described as follows by Wikipedia: "consensual sexual relations that occur when one participant [...]" Rape is defined as: "an assault by a person involving sexual intercourse with or sexual penetration of another person without that person's consent." Per this two definitions statutory rape cannot even be rape! There is a plant called "rape" too. But it isn't rape either. --91.11.48.230 (talk) 22:19, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do not remove the statutory rape section again, unless you have consensus to do so. The section is long standing, and links to the main article Statutory rape. If you wish to delete the Statutory rape article, then you should start an AfD discussion - and only when that article is deleted should you remove the section in this article. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:40, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, nobody mentioned AfD before you did. Have you even read what I wrote here? I will repeat it for you: According to the definitions in Wikipedia of the terms "Statutory rape" and "rape", statutory rape isn't a type of rape. This article contains a listing of types of rape. Therefore "Statutory rape" doesn't belong there. We have 2 kinds of alternatives now: 1.) One or both of the definitions of the terms mentioned are wrong. Then we should of course correct the false definition(s). 2.) The other possibility is, and I think this is the one we have now, is that the definitions are right. Then, we should of course not list "Statutory rape" as a type of rape. --91.11.47.63 (talk) 11:00, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For the purposes of the encyclopedia, statutory rape is here as a search parameter - people would question why it is not included, and would likely ensure that it is. However, nothing you have said - other than your interpretation of what Wikipedia (which is not considered a WP:Reliable source) - is evidence that statutory rape is not a type of rape. Unless you can provide reliable sources that determines rape as sexual assault or coercion only, and nothing to do with the giving of informed consent, then the existing consensus is that statutory rape stays in this article. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:54, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The reliable sources you are requesting are the same for the sentences in the article "Rape" that say that it involves coercion. You are wrong by implying that this is a disambiguation page. Just by looking at the title one can see: this is not a disambiguation page of "rape". Then the title would be "Rape (disambiguation). Please cite reliable sources that "Statutory rape" is a type of rape. Until then, we should remove the paragraph. --91.11.121.133 (talk) 18:08, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The existing consensus, indicated by the fact that the section appears here, is that it is appropriate; thus it is your responsibility to provide the sources that indicate that statutory rape (non consensual sex) is not rape - you are only focusing upon the coercion aspect. A further matter for you to ponder upon, the matter of consent is mostly concerned with the age of one or more of the individuals. There is a very strong policy at WP regarding anyone who seems to be advocating, or arguing about the legal aspects, of sex between adults and persons below the age of legal consent (coercive or not). Unless you can provide the reliable, third party, references that non coercive sex involving persons below the age of consent is not rape, then I suggest you withdraw from this discussion and allow the existing consensus to stand. I have been quite patient, but I am not prepared to discuss this further without any evidence other than your interpretation. LessHeard vanU (talk) 18:47, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You mentioned a Wikipedia policy regarding sex between adults and persons below the age of consent. I cannot find this policy. Can you provide a link? --91.11.119.208 (talk) 13:38, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I shall do so over the weekend, but in the meantime I will point you to this discussion relating to much the same viewpoint. LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Is there a link to the 30? LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:27, 25 June 2009 (UTC)

text: How did you come to this conclusion, HelloAnnyong? So you think that a 17 year old boy having sexual contact with a 18 year old girl is rape? This sounds like playing down the horrendous crime that actual rape is. This is diluting the meaning of the word "rape". "Oh, you were raped? That means you had sex before your 18th birthday, if I recall that Wikipedia article correctly? Sounds like fun." --91.11.107.150 (talk) 00:26, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I really strongly suggest that you concentrate yourself to the projects determination of this matter, rather than challenge individual editors. LessHeard vanU (talk) 13:00, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Statutory rape is not rape 

message: It's the statistic that won't die; but the study concluded "one in four" women had been "raped" by stretching the definition of "rape" well beyond what most people would consider rape.
http://www.leaderu.com/real/ri9502/sommers.html
Koss and her colleagues counted as victims of rape any respondent who answered "yes" to the question "Have you had sexual intercourse when you didn't want to because a man gave you alcohol or drugs?" That opened the door wide to regarding as a rape victim anyone who regretted her liaison of the previous night. If your date mixes a pitcher of margaritas and encourages you to drink with him and you accept a drink, have you been "administered" an intoxicant, and has your judgment been impaired? Certainly, if you pass out and are molested, one would call it rape. But if you drink and, while intoxicated, engage in sex that you later come to regret, have you been raped? Koss does not address these questions specifically, she merely counts your date as a rapist and you as a rape statistic if you drank with your date and regret having had sex with him. As Gilbert points out, the question, as Koss posed it, is far too ambiguous...Koss now concedes that question eight was badly worded. Indeed, she told the Blade reporters, "At the time I viewed the question as legal; I now concede that it's ambiguous." That concession should have been followed by the admission that her survey may be inaccurate by a factor of two: for, as Koss herself told the Blade, once you remove the positive responses to question eight, the finding that one in four college women is a victim of rape or attempted rape drops to one in nine.
The author of the quote above is Christina Hoff Sommers; so I know that the ad hominems will soon be flying.Shrikeangel (talk) 06:06, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing bogus "one in four" study 

message: A Human Rights Watch reference has been marked as "unreliable source". Is this the consensus view of that organisation? Thepm (talk) 09:09, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Human Rights Watch 

message: I've made some edits to the 'Prison Rape' section. I've removed unsubstantiated or irrelevant statements and added a couple of additional references. Thepm (talk) 21:56, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the new version reads better than the old version.  ~~ GB fan ~~ talk 23:07, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit to Prison Rape Section 

message: Is it essential to say that there are Muslim neighborhoods in France?
I mean in the footnote article theres nothing which shows a corelation of rapes and that there are also muslims living.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.55.26.8 (talk) 18:18, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Muslim Neighborhood 

message: http://english.aljazeera.net/news/middleeast/2010/07/201072191017847251.html
This article talks about "Deceit rape", I´m thinking of adding it to the article. Thoughts, anyone?
"An Arab living in Israel has been sentenced to 18 months in prison for having consensual sex with an Israeli woman who apparently believed he was Jewish. Sabbar Kashur was sentenced on Monday after being convicted of "rape by deception"."
"Similar laws have been controversial in other countries, as well. A man in the United States was convicted in 2007 of impersonating his brother in order to have sex with his girlfriend. That conviction was overturned on appeal, though, after an appellate court ruled that rape laws apply only to non-consensual sex."Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 12:15, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deceit rape 

message: The examples given of war rape are bias, and likely to not represent the true extent of the use of rape as a weapon of violence and vengeance during war.
There are documented cases of war rapes and atrocities on a larger scale than those mentioned in Rwanda and Nanjing, however, these are not given as examples. 
Rape during and after world war 1 and world war 2 was widespread and perpetrated by all sides including post-war occupying forces. This article, although an overview of the types of rape, is suggesting a bias by specifically mentioning the Japanese rape of Nanjing while not mentioning the rape of Eastern European women by advancing German and Soviet soldiers, nor the rape of German, Austrian, Hungarian, Italian and women in other former ' axis'  countries by the advancing soviet and Allied troops. Including the extent to which rape was condoned and even promulgated by post war occupying forces.
I understand this is an overview of rape types, however, the section on war rape should contain less bias, as it glosses over the extent to which rape has been use throughout history as a weapon of war.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.75.14.246 (talk) 22:23, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  War Rape Section is Bias 

message: Being not native to English, I was wondering what was the *opposite* of date rape, that is, a rape where rapist is unknown to victim. I call it bush rape in my language, but I suppose this might not be the right term in English. Could someone improve the article - or at least answer here if there is any valid term. --193.64.14.2 (talk) 06:56, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The term for that is "stranger rape." "Bush rape" connotes the years 2000-2008. :-) 24.177.120.138 (talk) 09:41, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bush rape 

message: I've removed the text "a form of acquaintance rape" from the date rape section.  Is there any consensus to create a new section for that superclass? - Aaron Brenneman (talk) 01:02, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  acquaintance rape 

message: I've removed the "not manual of style" drive-by banner since there was no talk page actions to support it.  However, I'm opening this section since I think that the article is currently unfocused and could use a re-structure.  I'd like to see consensus on
# What subcategories are worthy of inclusion
# How they are sorted on the page
# What material should be in each section.
Personally I'd propose
# Limit to a few (larger) categories
# Sorted by prevalence
# Link to main article, one/two sentence definition, one/two sentence on prevalence, both in first paragraph, second paragraph with succinct summary of main article.
Thanks for listening, 
Aaron Brenneman (talk) 01:11, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  article outline and contents 

message: I'm currently working on updating the page on corrective rape and think that it deserves to be a topic on the page.  The edited page will be live soon; please let me know if you have any suggestions or concerns. Rachelpop- (talk) 05:01, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: edit: I see that it is listed under "Anger rape."  I do not agree with this connection and would like to remove it. Rachelpop- (talk) 05:03, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I just cut out the section you added; though the length of the corrective rape article indicates this is a notable topic, the sources used simply didn't verify the text they were attached to on this page.  I have no issue with the material being sourced, so long as the attached sources are accurately summarized without any original research.  WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 22:31, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Corrective rape

message: I would like to make some small changes to help this article sound more gender neutral. Consistently, this article assumes all rape scenarios are male-female, even though the introduction states that this is not the case.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeremyburkhart (talk • contribs) 16:01, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gender Neutral 

message: Do the editors here think this might be an appropriate merger target for Sleep rape?  It currently has a lot of problems, but is probably a worthwhile topic that readers might search for. WilyD 05:17, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Sleep rape]] 

message: Kinda missing the obvious one, people who just want to get laid that desperately! xD 101.98.153.99 (talk) 10:18, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Types of rape 

message: In the section 'rape of children', mentioning '... and can result in serious and long-term psychological trauma' for one specific form seems to suggest that this is unique to incest, or at least far more so for that type. I doubt that that is the case, though I can't access the source, so I'd like to suggest it for deletion (or moving to a more general section). Mverleg (talk) 22:22, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  'long-term psychological trauma' only for this type? 

message: Does the term 'rape' for this article only refer to acts for which the victim is human, or would bestiality be an accurately described here?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.222.206.177 (talk) 17:12, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Bestiality a type of rape?

message: "This phenomenon is much less common elsewhere in the western world. This is partly because of the differences in the structure of the prison system in the US as compared to the prison systems in Canada, Australia and Europe"
'''
Where is this taken from (there is no source), and what exactly are the structural differences that make prison rape much more common in the U.S.?
24.193.117.225 (talk) 18:25, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prison Rape Odd Statement 

message: This section is currently limited to raping a woman to shame her relatives.
But what about other types of payback? Such as raping your rapist, or raping someone who fired you, and other such sorts?
Should these go in this section, or should we create a new one titled Revenge Rape? Artheartsoul1 (talk) 21:44, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Payback rape 

message: 1. The article on Corrective rape mentions that Homophobic rape would be a more accurate term. (Though this sometimes excludes rape of people who don't follow traditional gendernorms--they don't have to believe a masculine woman is butch to "correct her".)
2. While correction is certainly a motivation, how different is it from punishment? Is raping an LGBT person as much a correction as punishment?
Is this different (outside of homophobic/gendernorming justifying by the rapist) from Punishment rape (which isn't in the article), such as raping a child or spouse for "bad behavior" or raping someone for how they dress? (Skimpy clothing, Muslim wear, etc.) Artheartsoul1 (talk) 22:09, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrective Rape 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This article is a Class S article that is still developing. Our group plans to improve this article by adding additional citations from reliable sources for verification and clarification. We also aim to expand on Spousal Rape, providing a better summary of the sub-topic. 
Ashleyher (talk) 21:09, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  UCSF Foundations 2 2019, Group 7a goals 

message: •Do the group’s edits substantially improve the article as described in the Wikipedia peer review “Guiding framework”?
Overall, only one header (spousal rape) was edited from the group. Compared to the previous article, the group did substantially improve the paragraph.
•Are the edits formatted consistent with Wikipedia’s manual of style? If not,
specify…
Yes, hyperlinks and citations are appropriately implemented in the article. Domestic violence and sexual abuse were hyperlinked for further reference. A citation was reused (#10 from references) to support another neutral point regarding spousal rape. Sentences were added to talk more about spousal rape. Overall, format of the article stayed consistent, and the content is relevant to its header.
• Has the group achieved its overall goals for improvement? 
The overall goals were broad (it didn't specify the paragraph(s) to be edited), so overall improvement has not been met yet because the edits were only based on one header (spousal rape). There has been additional citations for verification and clarification, but the article itself can be improved more since it is an undeveloped article (class S). 
To improve the article more, I recommend providing statistics when these types of rape occurred if possible. Then, further explain that these statistics were not accurate since not every victim has came out with the truth. I would also like to see examples (maybe use celebrity news?) to emphasize these types of rape happens to everyone, no matter who they are.
Jacklyn.Ang (talk) 21:20, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jacklyn Ang's Review for UCSF Foundations 2 2019, Group 7a goals 

message: Part 1: The article was substantially edited as the section on spousal rape was almost completely written. Group 7a's goals were partly met. Citations and references were not found to be added anywhere in the article to provide verification/clarification aside from their own section on spousal rape. However, the spousal rape section was substantially elaborated upon which accomplished their goal. 
Part 2: The article maintained a neutral point of view. However, the source used in the spousal rape section was a primary source as it was a study which could be improved by citing a review instead.
Maludino (talk) 21:39, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Matt's Review 

message: Goal 1. Additional citations were not yet added outside of the "Spousal Rape" sub-section. 
Goal 2. A significant amount of relevant information was added to substantially improve the "Spousal Rape" sub-section.
Overall, the section-specific goal was achieved. However, further revision of citations would be beneficial. 
 
Although a citation was included in the added points, it should be noted that it is a primary source. A secondary source would provide better credibility to the information added.
Cpktruong (talk) 21:52, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colette's Review of UCSF Foundations 2 2019, Group 7a Goals 

message: The group met their goal of expanding the spousal rape section. I think they did provide substantial improvement to the overall article. However, they have not yet met their goal of adding additional citations, except for the one citation they used for the spousal rape section.
No evidence of plagiarism or copyright violation was found. 
Emilyplasencia (talk) 08:41, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emily's Review to UCSF Foundations II 2019, Group 7A