Talk:Meta Knight

message: meta knight unmasked? does anyone have a picture of meta knight unmasked?
http://e.1asphost.com/Dreamcat/Kirby's%20Palace/Images/Kss_Meta%20Knight%20Sprites.gif has sprites of Metaknight unmasked.
That link doesnt show up on my computer. Whats a question? 18:19, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Opinion

message: "Fans of HAL Laboratory games might identify Meta Knight's hidden form as originating from the 1989 game The Adventures of Lolo.  Earlier Kirby bosses Lololo and Lalala look identical and are presumably derived from the same game."
I removed that part.  Other than both being blue balls, they look nothing alike.  Meta knight has beady eyes while Lolo has large, more human-like ones.  Meta knight has a small mouth whereas Lolo doesn't have one.  Meta Knight has no arms and big fists and Lolo had arms and small hands.
If Metaknight's design originated from Lolo, then Kirby's design originated from Lala. Xubelox 20:54, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lolo similarites

message: With more SSBB info coming out it's becoming more apparent that a ton of people either have no idea who MK is, or have hideously innacurate knowledge of him. (Such as thinking he and Kirby are father/son or something (what is this, Star Wars?), or that MK is really Lolo... XD Good god...)  
But the main problem is people who automatically think he's evil- and his more menacing appearance in SSBB doesn't help. Considering MK has helped Kirby in more games than harmed him, I think it needs to be stressed that he is NOT a villain as Nightmare or Dark Matter are. Kirby's rival, sure, but they've often fought towards the same goals. He's probably even less of a 'bad guy' than Dedede, who has really only been on Kirby's side once in K64.
In Kirby's Adventure, MK appears briefly in some stages to aid you by giving you invincibility candy. In Amazing Mirror, he's the first one to try to save Dreamland there. In Kirakira Kizzu he does challenge you, but it's his usual 'testing Kirby's abilities' sort of thing. In the newest Squeak Squad game... uh I won't say anything because it'd be a spoiler but I'll say it supports my argument for now.
The KSS thing... Honestly there's so much confusion there. Why is it called 'REVENGE' of MK, anyway? What's he getting revenge for? Not against Kirby- he isn't after him at first, it's only after Kirby comes after HIM. MK wanted to take over Dreamland to 'end its lazy lifestyle', not destroy it- so he had good, if misguided reasoning behind it, correct? Then Kirby starts screwing everything up, so naturally he gets really mad.
So we can safely say he wasn't possessed or controlled- just... sort of idealistic and full of himself, but he had good intentions, really. =P
Uh, so any thoughts on this? 
Ivyna J. Spyder 20:59, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Good or Evil?

message: There needs to be a strong lead summary and yes there need to be ciations (manuals, sites, etc) where/when available for the appropriate sections. "Miscellaneous" and "trivia" need to be merged to more appropriate locations or at least be kept short, if it's not encyclopedic - delete it. Sections like Changes in fighting style and Games are fine, but in those and throughout the article get rid of "you" and replace with "the player" or reword it. Use other articles to your advantage - like check better character articles and try applying their article structure to this one, see what makes them "FA, "A" or "GA". Remember, you can get Meta Knight Peer reviewed too. -FullMetal Falcon 23:59, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No prob. I have some ideas I could work in... Ivyna J. Spyder 18:31, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Improvements

message: I figure that the reason that he would not wait forever unlike the other games could be seen as him not really wanting to wait for the ship to fall into the ocean with them both on it. The fact he was trying to take rule over Dreamland rather then simply preventing Kirby from unleashing another evil monster could come into play too, however. Ironically it's the "lazy lifestyle" that he was trying to get rid of that you'd be taking up if you simply stood there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.175.57.72 (talk) 08:00, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I assumed that too, that it was simply because of the time limit that isn't present in other games. Ivyna J. Spyder 18:04, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Super Star battle's patience 

message: meta knight is not evil dark meta knight is evil.nobody seems to under stand that.deos anyone else think meta knight has the same powers as kirby or had and thats why he"s training kirby?and why in the anime does he not have wings?i think nintendo and hal made meta knight look evil in the ssbb trailer on perpose.the only people who don"t know about mk are non-gamers light gamers and people who have never played a kirby game. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dr mario1992 (talk • contribs) 21:42, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  meta knight  

message: If I remember correctly, Meta Knight was the last boss in the game Meta Knight's Revenge which was a part of Kirby's Funpak for the SNES. Also he was a enemy in the game The Arnena on the same modul.
Or is Kirby's Funpak the same like Kirby Super Star? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.136.239.91 (talk) 08:41, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Same game, different regional names. (Fun Pak is the European name, I think.) DisasterKirby 13:54, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meta Knight in Kirby's Funpak 

message: I don't recall the M on his shoulder being mentioned anywhere as his emblem. Can someone alter this? It's false information195.195.15.250 13:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Smash Bros BRAWL Symbol 

message: A thought for you all. Maybe the reason that it's called 'Master' is because it's not the name of the sword, rather the ability to weild the sword or something? If it's the best ability in the game then maybe it's the "Master Ability" and not "The Mast Sword" - hey! a reference to Zelda? 195.195.15.250 13:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Except that those statements were false. The only in-game name in the Japanese version of KatAM for Master is "Master", as translated from the ability name. (And don't give me that unsourced "shortened name" bull. Show me where exactly in the game it says マスターソード  in full and maybe I'll change my mind.) Disaster Kirby 14:44, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  MINOR Sword detail 

message: "At one point when Dedede questioned his loyalty, Meta Knight insisted that he was his faithful servant- and then kicked him off a cliff." The excessive "his'" 'he's" and "him's" make this sentence confusing. Who kicked who off a cliff? --Is this fact...? 09:19, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing Sentance 

message: The Halberd is a fictional airship from the Kirby series. Within the series, its primary function is as a massive transport for the Meta-Knights and their army of soldiers, led by Meta Knight. It is all but indestructible from the outside. Its name is a reference to both a weapon and the company that created Kirby, HAL Laboratory (as the "HAL Bird").
In Kirby Super Star it is shown to have a small crew which includes Meta Knight himself, the bird-like Halberd Captain, a Waddle Dee in a sailor cap, Mace Knight and Axe Knight (also known as Meta Mace and Meta Axe).
 	
In the anime, the Halberd first appears in the first of the final three episodes, "Takeoff! Battleship Halberd!", aired in the USA as "Cappy Town Down" (which also first aired in America as the direct-to-video film, Kirby: Fright to the Finish). According to Meta Knight, he had been building it by himself with Sword Knight and Blade Knight's help since he arrived in Dream Land, using plans saved from the Galaxy Soldier Army.
The Halberd makes an appearance as a level in Super Smash Bros Brawl as both a level and as a main theme in the Game's Adventure mode, the Subspace Emissary. 
* Here's a cut down version of this that can be edited here before I request the Halberd section to be put back in the article. What changes should be made to this? --Is this fact...? 10:47, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: In the Article

message: I had given up on this project per a personal lack of time, but, apparently, Meta Knight has been bought back and protected until a consciousness has been reached. The problem is that one party wants this to be merged with characters in the Kirby video game series, for it's irrelevant until it's proven as much by an out-of-game source. The other says that Meta Knight is too relevant to be downsized, that this can be proven in time, and that the traffic alone is evidence enough. 
I say that a time limit should be given for the out-of-game info to be added and that it should be kept for now due to WP:OWN. What do you vote on the matter? --Is this fact...? 10:47, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that Meta-Knight should be merged. Meta-Knight is a bit too relevant. Thank you for your time. 71.164.253.253 (talk) 04:52, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

text: One thing people need to realize is there are several cases where Wikipedia articles shouldn't be compared to each other. Believe me, that article will eventually be deleted or merged. It's maybe seven sentences long. It just hasn't happened yet.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 20:14, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging Edit War 

message: Please remove the :Image:Metaknightssbb.jpgthis image of Meta Knight in Brawl (as well as the colon just before it) from the article. It brings nothing to the article and makes it look rather clunky. --Is this fact...? 08:01, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I unprotected the page. I hope that everyone will refrain from edit warring and resolve any disputes with discussion on the talk page. — Carl (CBM · talk) 16:26, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image Removal Request 

message: The page was redirect/merged w/o discussion.  The intitial request for page protection was in to avoid continual redirects without prior discussion. Please unprotect and unredirect page. -66.109.248.114 (talk) 02:24, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Protection is not a tool to protect your desired version. It's used to stop edit warring and encourage discussion. TTN (talk) 02:29, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Seconded. There was an edit war so full protection was applied to prevent anything from occurring further. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 02:38, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: as I read the history page, Sesshomaru, and TTN,  you were  the ones provoking the edit war by reverting without discussion, against clear consensus both here at at the more general Kirby page. Please explain yourselves here and see if you have any support. DGG (talk) 16:55, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted because the page was tagged with , see here. Where is the link that shows the outcome of the consensus? Because if it was "keep", then the tag shouldn't be there. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 17:34, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This already went through three discussions. The first one was to merge with five to four being the result, (anons can be anyone, so they don't count). There were no actual arguments regarding improving the article, so those were pretty much null. The second discussion was placed on the video game project, and only a couple of people really commented there. The lack of response indicates that nobody really cared if the articles were merged (if they're against something, they'll comment). The Afd ended with a recommendation to merge because the closing admin did not seem to feel like discusounting the votes, though he clearly feels that they were not really relevant. The consensus is to merge.TTN (talk) 18:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Discussions are consensus based not votes, as such the arguements made my anon should count.  I would encourage the editor to assume good faith. -66.109.248.114 (talk) 19:47, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect

message: Please discuss at Talk:List of Kirby characters.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Quickmythril (talk • contribs) 14:16, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless of the outcome at said discussion, this page cannot be redirected/unredirected until the injunction regarding characters has been lifted. seresin | wasn't he just...? 14:40, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Huh? Did I miss something? This is a video game character, not a tv character. --Jack Merridew 14:42, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, to be pedantic, he has been in a television show. But since the injunction should probably be interpreted broadly, and this has been edit warred over specifically, I think it would have been safe to say this article would fall under the injunction even if he hadn't been in an anime. seresin | wasn't he just...? 23:07, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

text: this is interpreted to refer to similar situations, and I think it includes this one. Article reprotected in whatever may be the current form until subsequent discussion. DGG (talk) 16:59, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

text: at the request or Merridew and Seresin, I changed it to the form it was in at the time of the injunction. please make no further changes  DGG (talk) 16:28, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

text: The separate article has 10 sources in total (not bad). But: 2 in the infobox, 2 for stating that his original body was black, 1 for stating what he did/how he looked in  a trailer, 1 for how his bedroom looks, and 3 for stating that he is a playable character in an upcoming game. In the merged list, he has 8 sources, and the 30+ (usually unsourced) paragraphs got condensed to three (mostly sourced) paragraphs. Keep redirected until the section in the merged list gets too long with sourced content. – sgeureka t•c 09:31, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

text: This case is another of TTN's crass mergers which was not supported by a consensus of the editors who work upon this article.  Now that his actions and behaviour have been censured by Arbcom, the status quo ante is being restored as we clean up the damage that he did.  I support the actions of the editors who have laboured hard upon this fine article. Colonel Warden (talk) 09:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Your rant about another editor is out of line; please address the article. You seem to be making a case for the view that your resurrection of this article is WP:POINTy. Cheers, Jack Merridew 10:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I did address the article. I have looked at it and consider it better as a proper article than as a redirect to a list which simply restates the same material in a poorer format. Colonel Warden (talk) 10:34, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  You seem to be glossing-over the notability issue. This article was based of fandom, not sources. Cheers, Jack Merridew 13:00, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I agree with Sgeureka's analysis of the article; the 'references' are lightweight and do not support all the fine fancruft that was this article. The merged bit in the list is sufficient. Cheers, Jack Merridew 10:17, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Alright. I've been watching your little discussion with TTN. Trying to do his work for him just because HE can't. Tell you what, how about you give us a week or so find verifiable information on Meta Knight, and if we can't find it, merge him back? Is that okay with you? -- ZeroGiga (Contact) 19:43, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I was going to wait until approx. May 4 because that would make it a full month when Col Warden requested more time to satisfy NOT#PLOT etc. That TTN contacted me (which is out of my control) is besides the point since this renewed merger here was initiated without TTN's presense anyway. – sgeureka t•c 23:58, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger Discussion 

message: Meta is a main character in the series. If we have pages of Zelda and Link, we should have pages about MK. It was redirected for no reason. Mr. Anon515 (talk) 01:34, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Un merge

message: sorry if this is pointless but the current image looks abit grainy (especially the eyes) I think we need a new image if one exists. is he unmasked in games after kirbysuperstarultra?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.107.214.100 (talk) 14:30, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  do we have any new clearer images of unmasked meta knight? 

message: This article could use a good copyedit.  There are several small but noticeable grammar and punctuation errors as well as some dubious stylistic choices by the writer.  For example, in the lead in, first paragraph, the sentence reads "The character also appears in several Kirby comic books, in the 2001 anime series and in the Super Smash Bros. series."  This is a good example of why the serial (or Oxford) comma should be applied.  It lists where Kirby has appeared, offsetting the first with a comma, and then leaving the following two separated by only "and."
In the second paragraph, "He has also been regarded to be worthy of its own game, and popular among fans." "He" is first used to describe the character but the writer turns around to mention "its own" game.  Not sure why the pronoun is switched mid-sentence.  Also, a comma plus conjunction should only be used to separate two independent clauses.  Since "popular among fans" is a dependent clause, the comma prior to "and" is incorrect.
Numerous other inconsistencies within the article that could be fixed.  While they don't severely detract from the the content, the haphazard application of grammar and especially punctuation don't serve to give it an encyclopedic tone.  Patrick of J (talk) 11:46, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyedit 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: New artwork for Meta Knight was recently uploaded online and also used in the current latest game, Kirby Fighters 2. I'm not able to upload files here, but I think it would be good to use that render since it represents his current main series design. SuperCP99 (talk) 21:15, 30 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Artwork 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion 

message: Is the category "Male video game heroes" existing for categorization of Meta Knight? It might need fixing. Qwertyxp2000 (talk | contribs) 02:12, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Male video game heroes" 

message: I would like to question the close of the recent GAR. I was not the only person who did not agree that there were problems worth delisting over. Also, you never transcluded the GAR onto this talk page. QuicoleJR (talk) 20:04, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: . Also, question is different than a problem. You think an article without development section and with a flimsy reception sec is a "good article"? GreenishPickle!  (🔔) 23:38, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The development section might be impossible, and that should not be held against the article. Besides, I believe the reception section is fine. What is wrong with it? QuicoleJR (talk) 23:44, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Without development, its not a detailed article. Its probably because you're a Kirby fan. GreenishPickle!  (🔔) 04:37, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoa now, assume good faith. He's right to question this. An article sometimes just isn't going to have a development section, the only thing one can do is cite whatever they can in the best way possible.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 06:18, 4 August 2023 (UTC)

text: You shouldn't question someone's judgment solely based on whether they enjoy something or not. Further, if the article is as detailed as is possible, then it is a detailed article. Lacking a development section is only a problem because they are typical sections, not because they are mandatory. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 06:20, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I meant it as a joke; Apologize, if it went too far. GreenishPickle!  (🔔) 07:26, 4 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: While this discussion ended some time ago, I recently went over the GAR myself, and there really was no reason to delist this article, @Greenish Pickle!. Both people who participated in it besides you as the nominator were openly against the GAR in the first place, and it was closed without any reasoning or rationale. I'd really appreciate some form of explanation about that. From what I can tell, you seemed to be against its GA status because of the fact that it had no development section, but those sources simply do not exist. Denying an article GA status for missing sources that physically don't exist isn't something that should roll around here. Apologies if I seem to be coming off a tad pushy here, but you essentially delisted the article for no reason.  Pokelego999 (talk) 22:06, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The recent GAR