Talk:Silla

message: What is interesting in Silla founding myths is that the royal title for the first ten or so kings: Geoseoghan, Chachaung, Isageum, Maripghan. To me they sound like Romanization of Kasikhan / Khaghan / Iskhan / Malik Khan into Chinese characters.  changing of ch to k and vice versa is observed even in Europe, where Latin pronunciation for "C" evelved from K to CH over centuries ("Celetes" as pronounced in modern Italian and Church latin) Change Chachaung's "ch into k, and you have Kakaung, or Khakan. 
Also interesting is the centuries old fixation on preserving their pure lineage among the royalty /nobility using the bonk rank system, that still pervades modern Korean language "bbyeodae gip eun jib an" .  Possibly early Silla society was ruled by a foreign people who were niticeably different in appearance, who sought to preserve their "superiority" by keeping a pure lineage.  Based on modern DNA evidence, perhaps the Seonggol (divine bone) ruling class came from the North (Buyeo) bringing Central Asian horse riding culture, and possibly possessing the Y-DNA C-M217, as opposed to the southern agricultural DNA of O2b and O3?  Maybe this explains the wider dispersion of C-M217 in the southern part of the peninsula, where legends indicate the founder of Baekje also came form Buyeo (SW Korea)... Thoughts?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krusader6 (talk • contribs) 03:21, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Wiki is not the place for idle chatter (WP:FORUM) or Original Research.
I want the summary of silla of Korean history
 Chris morez (talk) 21:38, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of Bone Rank system as an evidence of North Asian Buyeo elites as founders?

message: What's going on with this romanization. Wiktionary seems to say this is Shinra or something like that, but I'm not sure why "Silla" is used. What is the proper Korean spelling (in RR, MR, and Yale) for this? WhisperToMe 02:33, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: To understand this, one must enter the nasty intellectual bramble-patch of Korean phonology.  The name is 신라 in Hangul, Silla in RR, Shilla in MR, and something foolish in Yale.  The first syllable is romanized Sin or Shin, the second Ra.  However, due to an assimilation rule, n + r (ㄴ + ㄹ) = ll (ㄹㄹ).  So 신라 (Sin-ra) is pronounced 실라 (Silla), and romanized accordingly.  -- Visviva 03:00, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)

text: We Koreans pronounce it "실라", which is most certainly "Shilla," which rhymes with Villa or Chinchilla.  It's not that it merely "sounds that way to the western ear" as the article indicates.  -201.1.40.143 (talk) 22:26, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Romanization

message: According to the text, "Facing pressure from Baekje in the west, in 400, Silla allied with Goguryeo to attack Baekje and Japanese Wokou pirates."
However, the article on Wokou states that "Wōkòu (Chinese: 倭寇; Japanese pronunciation: wakō; Korean pronunciation: 왜구 waegu) were pirates who raided the coastlines of China and Korea from the 13th century onwards."
Is there some way that this can be harmonised? Either the use of the word Wokou is an anachronism (i.e., it is extending the name back through history to a time when it had not come into use) and a different term should be used, or the article on Wokou fails to give a complete picture and should mention these earlier bouts of Wokou activity.
Bathrobe 04:14, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wokou?

message: I placed this under cleanup because I felt coverage was spotty and all the sections needed to be pulled together, added to, and to an extent reorganizaed. I am working on getting the middle period narrative but later period has not been begun.
Straitgate 06:59, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: I find the remarks on supposedly Korean origins of the Jin dynasty wide of the mark. First, the claims about the similarity between Aisin Gioro and Silla sound extremely speculative. Second, strictly speaking, Nurhaci was not the founder of the Qing, but of the later Jin. One of his sons, later changed the name of the dynasty to Qing and created the name Manchu. Third, what is ethnic homogeneity between Manchus and Koreans supposed to mean? They don't even speak the same language.
In sum, these claims like they were taken from the works of Sin Chae'ho, who wanted to claim Manchuria for Korea. Just quoting the Manzhou yuanliu kao is not sufficient, a chapter and a page reference should be given. (I doubt that the author of this paragraph has read that book. Furthermore, Manzhou yuanliu kao was written in the 18th century in order to create a history of the Manchu, so anything that book say about Korean kingdom some eight hundred years earlier should be taken with some caution. If no credible source is quoted, I suggest that this paragraph be deleted.--Niohe 15:22, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought Silla fought Japanese pirates. Good friend100 00:19, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  original Jurchen clans (various Tungusic tribes) shared same ethnic line with Koreans; 70% of Korean people are from Tungusic clans, that originally migrated to Korean peninsula and thus even later languages became different, genetically Jurchen shared closest to Korean people than anyone else. --Korsentry 03:23, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silla and the Jurchen 

message: Please comment on whether Shinra should be a redirect to this article at Talk:Shinra#Requested move. (It's a common spelling in late 19th and early 20th century books, for example.) Right now, the page Shinra discusses a fictional corporation from Final Fantasy VII; I have proposed that be moved to Shinra Electric Power Company instead. Cheers, cab 21:26, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect from Shinra? 

message: In my Firefox 2.0.0.12, all the edit buttons of the History part appear together behind the list of monarchs, behind the title of the Culture part.
El Comandante (talk) 08:08, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technical problem 

message: The opening paragraph states that Silla was the "longest sustained dynasty in Asian history." What is the basis for this claim? For example, the Wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynasty#Japan gives the rule of the Emperor of Japan as lasting from 606 BC to the present. This is longer than the period of 57 BC-935 AD for Silla. Should the "longest sustained dynasty" claim for Silla be removed or qualified in some way? 76.209.130.154 (talk) 16:25, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I expected some sort of response, but since I got none, I will go ahead and qualify "longest sustained dynasty" to read "one of the longest sustained dynasties" since this appears to be true. 76.209.130.154 (talk) 16:30, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longest Dynasty? 

message: I have taken the liberty of removing the most egregious and quite trivially false claims, but I would strongly recommend that this section be deleted as it is not only unsourced and questionable, but irrelevant to the part of the article at hand (it would be better treated as a topic under "Society and politics" if it is to be treated at all). --Tyrannus Mundi (talk) 01:23, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: "Shifting of power" section

message: The Bei Shi records that Silla elite were of partially Chinese descent and that the population was partially Chinese.
"新罗者，其先本辰韩种也。地在高丽东南，居汉时乐浪地。辰韩亦曰秦韩。相传言秦世亡人避役来适，马韩割其东界居之，以秦人，故名之曰秦韩。其言语名物， 有似中国人。....其文字、甲兵，同于中国 "
"Silla came from Zhen Han. Its southeast of Koguryo, belonging to the Lelang prefecture during Han. According to a common saying, after Qin fell, many people came as refugees. Ma Han took the eastern part of its territory and gave it to them, because they are Qin people, they are also called Qin Han(another name for Zhen Han). Their language and words used to describe things are similar to the Chinese...their writing, armament, are the same as China's."
"其人杂有华夏、高丽、百济之属"
"there were Chinese, Koguryo, and Paekche people"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.63.125 (talk) 19:27, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese Elite 

message: The usage and primary topic of  is under discussion, see talk:Shilla (6132m) -- 67.70.32.190 (talk) 05:40, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: "Shilla"

message: The last paragraph of "Society and politics," about "items uncovered during the excavation," seems to be a non sequitur. It looks like it was added last April in a significant edit by a since-blocked IP address. I think it's supposed to be part of the material discussed under "Foreign relations" but if so, it's out of order. B.adkins (talk) 18:55, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  What excavation? 

message: It seems population is poorly sourced for this article, specifically in that some of them reference the Samguk Sagi without providing a direct citation/online citation which would be preferrable. I'll look for some myself later but if anyone has statistics already would appreciate adding citations to the population of Silla Sunnyediting99 (talk) 15:36, 22 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Any updates on this? If anyone has reliable population stats I would appreciate it Sunnyediting99 (talk) 02:23, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population?