Talk:Chesapeake Bay Bridge–Tunnel

message: I took it apon my self to remove the following line.
:"Its toll of $10 to drive across is the most expensive of any bridge in the world.".
It's noted in the article Oresund Bridge that the toll at current exchange rates for a one way trip is more than three times that of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel.  It's also confirmed in the below link.
www.oeresundsbron.com/
:Done. — Minshullj 02:46, 27 July 2005 (EDT)
The Great Seto Bridge in Japan has a toll of 4,850 Yen. Over $40 at current exchange rates.  Many bridges in Japan are more than $10 --Samuel Wantman 08:53, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Most expensive in the world"

message: I am uncertain what this CBBT actually is.  The intro sentence says The Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel (CBBT) is a 23 mile (37 km) long facility that connects,  while the Facts and Figures sub-section talkes about islands, bridges, tunnels, without an overall explaination. Note the bridge-tunnel acticle is much clearer and says the Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel, a 23-mile long structure which crosses the mouth of the Chesapeake Bay with a combination of bridges and tunnels over two widely separated shipping channels, using four man-made islands built in the bay as portals.   I will cut-n-paste these words in later, but perhaps it would be better for someone who knows to clarify what CBBT is for this article.  Wendell 13:00, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume CBBT is a common abbreviation for Chesapeake Bay Bridge-Tunnel (the first letters of each word). --Joe Sewell 16:48, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Both suggestions have finally been incorporated into the article. Vaoverland 07:17, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What is CBBT 

message: I'll fold these in later if I get a chance, but I don't want to lose them (deep in editing something else)
* good construction info: http://enr.construction.com/advertise/aboutUs/125enrHistory/990712.asp
* AWESOME and detailed description of the construction process: http://www.roadstothefuture.com/VASCE-History/VASCE-CBBT.htm  including Big D the pile driver, the travelling crane and other details
I ran across these trying to find info about Merritt-Chapman & Scott, Hope that is useful info. Happy editing! ++Lar: t/c 17:43, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  additional refs 

message: Does anyone know any bus service for this Bridge-Tunnel while it is too long to allow non-motorized traffic?--Jusjih 07:57, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind. I have found the official answer myself.--Jusjih (talk) 23:08, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any bus service? 

message: According to the ASCE article in the wikipedia and the ASCE site
http://www.asce.org/history/seven_wonders.cfm
The CBBT is not one of the seven engineering wonders of the modern world.
Wbakker2 00:52, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added mention that it is no longer on the list.  I was not able to verify that it ever was. -- Samuel Wantman 06:23, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not one of the ASCE 7 wonders? 

message: Wow, someone's trying to make it seem like a gold mine: first "in the world", then this.
OK, so define "expensive": does it mean the most costly at one time?  Then possibly they might be right, but we need a cite to prove it.  Does it mean most costly per mile?  No way, seeing as the less-than-a-mile long bridges into New York City, the George Washington Bridge, the Goethals Bridge and even the mile-or-so long ones (the Lincoln/Holland Tunnels, the Outerbridge Crossing, and the Bayonne Bridge) cost $6.  If that was the price to cross the CBBT, it would cost $138 to cross!  $17's definitely seems a pittance compared to those ailing structures in the Big Apple.
Heck, even the bridges of Philly cost $3 for about a mile.  The CBBT works out to 73.9¢/mi (and before you ask me to cite that, it's simple math), which is cheaper than most crossings of the US.  So, elaborate and cite if you want it in the article. EaglesFanInTampa (formerly Jimbo) 13:21, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Most expensive crossing in the US"? 

message: I see that a crossing $12 plus return $5 within 24 hours is permitted.
But what if you just want to drive accross the bridge and back?  Is there a U-turn anywhere after you get into the toll section? Gohiking 18:02, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically...yes.  Legally...I'd guess not.  Coming from the south (so...going north), when you get to the northern end of the bridge, as in after Fisherman's Island, there is a scenic overlook on the Bay side.  It is south of the southbound toll plaza, so if you turn in there, you can technically turn around because you can get to either direction from this scenic parking lot.  Mapquest shows it well, follow this link and then go to the north end of the bridge; just after the Smith Island Inlet you can see a parking lot structure on the left.  If you're going south, your only chance to turn around would be at Island 1.  This may not be totally legal and I'd imagine they frown upon it and expect you to use the honor system.  --MPD T / C 18:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question for someone who uses the bridge? 

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message: It may be worth adding a section on the PTST.  The article is a little stale, and I thought I'd note these two sources if someone wanted to write an update
Also is there a source that explains why adding a $1b tunnel is a needful thing, when the CBBT will still have a single-lane tunnel at the Chesapeake Channel? KevinCuddeback (talk) 20:05, 6 July 2016 (UTC)
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