Talk:Almoravid dynasty

message: This article could probably use some sub-dividing.
Dvyost 19:38, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subheads needed 

message: Almoravides are a different country ,with are different dinasty .But if someone is racist ,can write Almoravid is the four dynasty of Morroco -User:Bokpasa (Moi 12:39, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The almoravids are indeed moroccan, if not explain why Oqba Ibn Nafi confronts the Lamtuna at the Draa River. Watermelonfan69 (talk) 00:52, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: No almo It's Moroccan DYNASTY It was founded by Abdullah Ibn Yassin and its first capital is the city of Aghmat near Marrakesh  Taha Moroccan (talk) 23:55, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Almoravides are not Morroco

message: @R Prazeres and @M.Bitton hope you're doing well, what do you think about this flag ? reliable enough ? :File:Black standard of the Almoravids.svg Nourerrahmane (talk) 17:17, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say this is worth mentioning in text (which makes those sources very useful!), but not adding to the infobox. It confirms once again the use of a certain colour with the Abbasid connection, but not whether those banners had other details, or whether they flew other banners, etc. Like a lot of other states/dynasties in early periods, we still don't have a visual record of their flags so it still requires a bit of WP:SYNTH. A black rectangle isn't very informative to readers at the end of the day and doesn't do much as a preview image, so I'd rather leave it as is (but mention this in text). That's my opinion at any rate. R Prazeres (talk) 17:34, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I thaught that, since the flag of the almoravid was in fact the flag of their investiture by the Abassids, then they can have the same thing in the infobox as the Abassids (with something below like : Black flag of the Abassids or Flag of the Abassid investiture), since the Almoravids represented the Sunni power in the region headed by the Sunni Caliph in Baghdad, but adding this to the text using the sources could be very informative, also some additions to this article: Islamic flag would be good. Nourerrahmane (talk) 17:47, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: In the Abbasid case the flag's role and description is very well-established I think, I'm not sure if that translates to the same certainty here. But others may disagree and it's fine if there's a consensus otherwise. And yes, again, definitely good material for the body of the article and maybe worth mentioning at Black Standard too. Either way, thanks for this research! R Prazeres (talk) 18:01, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You're welcome! :) Nourerrahmane (talk) 18:06, 14 November 2023 (UTC)

text: It looks reliable for the article's body. No opinion on whether it belongs somewhere else. M.Bitton (talk) 21:40, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Almoravid Flag 

message: At the end of the section "Name" there is an indication of "citation needed". I just had a suggestion for an article that might be useful on that regard, but I cannot edit the page because it seems to be protected:
González Diéguez, Guadalupe. "Veiled Men of the Desert: Perceptions of the Ṣanhāğa Face-Muffler in the Medieval Islamic West," Occhialì: Rivista sul Mediterraneo Islamico 7 (2020): 33-47.
Many thanks for your consideration, in any case. Alqantara75 (talk) 22:56, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the suggestion, Alqantara75. If I have time at some point, I'll have a look at the reference and update the paragraph accordingly. (Anyone else is also free to do so.) I believe Amira Bennison's book (already cited widely in this article) also discusses this issue to some extent, if that's helpful. R Prazeres (talk) 21:05, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
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