Talk:Sam Browne belt

message: Not much in the way of references in this article...129.21.114.185 (talk) 20:17, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: refs

message: A number of police forces (the massachusetts state police, for sure) use breakaway sam browne belts so the strap can't be used against the trooper in a fight.  the strap is secured to the belt with a clip that will detatch if pulled.  Rmd1023 (talk) 12:46, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: police

message: The Wikipedia article on Sam Browne himself states that he lost his arm from a sword cut during the action in which he won the Victoria Cross. It might be good to decide which version is correct and use that for both articles.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.130.2.75 (talk) 18:52, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradiction

message: The section on police use includes the paragraph
:In Australia, a white Sam Browne belt and strap is worn by the Victoria Police Mounted Unit, the New South Wales Police Force VIP Cyclists, Protocol Inspector and Protocol Sergeant (during ceremonies only), NSW Police Academy Senior Protocol Officer (Senior Sergeant) and Parade Sergeant  wear a black coloured leather basketweave Sam Browne belt and strap with silver coloured fittings as a badge of office.  The same Sam Browne belt is also worn by the Australian Federal Police Ceremonial Mounted Cadre and AFP Drill Instructors.
Most of that text  by the anonymous  ("an organisation with approximately 6000 employees", Verizon Australia PTY Limited; Verizon Business Network). Two sentences run together without a clear break, and a third one with unclear (grammatical) reference. 
Who wears what? 
*the Victoria Police Mounted Unit: a white Sam Browne belt and strap
*the New South Wales Police Force : ↑↑white or black↓↓?
**VIP Cyclists,  (VIP = Very Important Person ?)
**Protocol Inspector 
**and Protocol Sergeant (during ceremonies only), 
*(NSW) Police Academy : a black coloured leather basketweave Sam Browne belt and strap with silver coloured fittings
**Senior Protocol Officer (Senior Sergeant)
**and Parade Sergeant 
*Australian Federal Police : "the same" as which?
**Ceremonial Mounted Cadre
**and AFP Drill Instructors
--Thnidu (talk) 17:30, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: (Bow.) Thank you. I'd nearly forgotten about this talk post!  --Thnidu (talk) 17:01, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australian police 

message: "Sir Basil Templer Graham-Montgomery, 5th Baronet of the 60th Rifles while serving in India."
He was 5th Baronet Montgomery of Stanhope, not Baronet of the 60th Rifles. 150.227.15.253 (talk) 10:32, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: ...but he didn't succeed to the baronetcy until 1902, so the title isn't needed at all here. Opera hat (talk) 17:02, 16 March 2019 (UTC)

text: On Wikipedia the convention is to refer to people the way they were known at the time. So, for example, the article on Edward Wood, 1st Earl of Halifax calls him "Wood" until he was created Lord Irwin on appointment as Viceroy of India, then "Irwin" until he succeeded his father in 1934, and "Halifax" thereafter – not "Halifax" throughout. See also MOS:MULTINAMES: "If a person is named in an article in which they are not the subject, they should be referred to by the name they were using at the time of the mention rather than a name they may have used before or after the mention." Opera hat (talk) 23:59, 16 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange/dangling reference (I don't know the correct English linguistic term) 

message: Be that as it may, the "60th Rifles"-  a vernacular reference to the 60th King's Royal Rifle Corps,  was the title of Graham-Montgomery's regiment at the time of his adaptation of the equipment in 1878. However ,  under the Childers reforms of 1881 the KRRC ceased to be identified by its regimental number  (along with all other line infantry regiments) and at the time the accompanying photograph was taken was known simply as the Kings Royal Rifle Corps. It would be appropriate to amend the caption accordingly.
JF42 (talk) 09:12, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sir Basil Templer Graham-Montgomery, 5th Baronet of the 60th Rifles (2)