Talk:Vydūnas

message: Wilhelm Storost-Vydunas (1868-1953), a friend of my grandfather Julius
Schukat and Lithuanian savant from Tilsit had been staying with us in
Powarben, East Prussia, since 1944 and joined our family as a refugee. He was particularly
helpful in talking to the invading Russians as they attempt to look out
for girls whom they may want to abuse.71.214.52.127 02:52, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This man always was a citizen of Germany and in all offficial documents named himself as Wilhelm Storost. So why the article gives lithuanian form of his name? --Vulpes vulpes 06:30, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I will move this page, because this person signed himself as Vydûnas, but not as Vydūnas. Such ortography was used among Prussian-Lithuanians. --Vulpes vulpes 09:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Without proper and clear academic publications that you say is considered WP:OR, next for renaming article use WP:RM rather then your single-sided move. M.K. 12:45, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This article should be moved to Vydûnas. It is not WP:OR, this man signed as Vydûnas, it is clearly seen in referencies of article, in autograph . He was using a bit different ortography neither lithuanians. Strange situation: in the same article is used three forms of pseudonym. --Vulpes vulpes 08:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Current name is used in English encyclopedias such as Encyclopedia Lithuanica Vol. 6; Encyclopedia of World Literature in the 20th Century, so current name is matching WP policies. So no need to change current name. BTW, that type of link you provided - is it some sort of educational institution web or what? M.K. 09:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  There is no letters like û or ū in english language, so logical solution should be Vydunas without any diacritics. But WP respects original spelling, so the only one solution is - Vydûnas. You lithuanians are strange people - you became angry when Laurynas Gucevičius is called Wawrzyniec Gucewicz. You say, hey, real, authentic name should be lithuanian name. Now when is given authentic form you once again don't like it. Give real arguments. BTW, a can give much more links without ū in english language. --Vulpes vulpes 05:42, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please no WP:NPA - there is no "the Lithuanians", there are separate individuals with quite different beliefs.--Lokyz 13:15, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text:  The facts are: official name of philosopher always was Wilhelm Storost and this is enough to name article after such title. Well, I agree, he was better known under pseudonym - Vydunas. In lithuanian WP you can name this person as you like, but this is english WP, naming Vydūnas is falsification of history, philosopher himself not used such name. --Vulpes vulpes 10:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: FYI - word Lithuanians is to be written capitalized. Another point - you will not find your proposed name in many English sources, and yes this is English Wikipedia, and Vydūnas is most common form of his pen name in English litearature. Of course, you may add  Vydûnas in the lead, and create redirect,. I'm affraid there is not a sigle motive to move this page. --Lokyz 14:46, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I've added alternative spelling to the lead, and redirect already exists. I hope  you'll find this satisfactory.--Lokyz 17:22, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The form he did use is rather sanscritic than "Prussian Lithuanian".--Lokyz 14:19, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Creating theories? You really surprised me claiming û derives from sanscritic. Look at Vydunas' orthography there  or there  and compare with Prussian Lithuanian writing from 1727 there . Are you still saying û is sanscritic form? --Vulpes vulpes 11:54, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Now let's talk what form of a name is mostly used in English books and encyclopedias: Vydunas gives 229 results (in various languages including English), Vydūnas - 140 (mostly Lithuanian), Vydûnas - 18 (various), Vîdûnas - 14 (French and German).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vulpes vulpes (talk • contribs) 12:04, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Vidunas - 136 results in English, German and other languages. --Vulpes vulpes 12:22, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  So the facts are: philosopher in English language mostly is named as Vydunas or Vidunas. Philosopher himself signed as Vîdûnas or Vydûnas. His real name was Wilhelm Storost/Vilius Storostas. Only in Lithuania is known as Vydūnas, but it is ridiculous to use Lithuanian name in English context. In Lithuanian Abraham Lincoln is known under Abraomas Linkolnas name. So I understood Lithuanian WP users do not want use authentic form, so the only logical solution is move this article to Vydunas. --Vulpes vulpes 08:40, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: I dare not touch this artticle because I am totally ignorant of Lithuanian history and literature, but it should be reviewed by someone who is literate in English. Articles are strangely used or missing ("educated as teacher", "at teacher seminar" - and would a "teacher seminar" by any chance be a normal school?) It is explained that "Vydūnas" is related to the fact that "he wished everyone everything good", but it would help if the name "Vydūnas" was translated so we could understand the connection. "Shortly" is used where "briefly" would be better ("shortly" usually means "very soon"). And on and on. Axel (talk) 21:41, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite needed

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