Talk:Linkin Park/Archive 1

message: Since their style of music inquires hardcore punk elements and heavy metal riffs, wouldn't they also be considered Metalcore? I know they don't seem like it, but that is kind of what they are; you know what i mean? --RaikiriChidori 22:08, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Metalcore As A Genre

message: why are there 2 different articles for the upcoming album? T and T and Linkin Park's third studio album. The both have the exact same information, but wouldn't it be better off using the Linkin Park's third studio album page rather than the other one, and wait until the complete album title is announced, then move it to a page with the complete title?--R-Tiztik 05:44, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 2 Pages for the next album

message: I noticed this on Amazon.com: 
and it reminded me that I remember reading that Linkin Park was going to give LPU members a DVD-Audio version of Reanimation back in the day but since I've never been a member I don't know if they ever did.  That was back in 2002 before Dual Discs were even out so I don't know where that cd on Amazon is coming from.
Can anyone shed some light on this issue? It isn't listed on the discography and I didn't want to make any changes until I knew some more info about it. 68.68.96.79 22:03, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reanimation DVD-Audio

message: In the article someone had written that "The song was not featured on Hybrid Theory and is often mistaken as a B-side."  My December is in fact a B side on the single for One Step Closer . 
and on some international versions of the album 
I changed that line to reflect that.
Also I didn't change it but I've never read anywhere that just Mike wrote My December or that he wrote it just for that concert. Can anyone confirm or deny that claim?
: I'm not sure if only Mike wrote the song but My December was created exclusively for KROQ's Slim Santa CD. --SayCheese 22:22, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: My December

message: That claim is ridiculous with no source whatsoever. They are definitely amongst the best selling artists, but artists such as Eminem and Britney Spears have more than likely sold more the new century than Linkin Park. Simple math by adding their album sales up and comparing them to LP's sales would verify that.
I really believe that line should be removed from the opening and I will do so now, unless a source is credited. As of right now it's an unverifiable and in my opinion exaggerated claim.
*It's a fairly ridiculous claim. You're right to remove it. Until someone finds a source (which they probably won't), we should take it out the article. --[kazikame] 19:00, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Best selling act of the 21st century?

message: BtH music video was an Anime/Manga video, that's the only correct description! 
The Breaking the Habit music video is described as classical animation. I'm not sure what that is supposed to mean, but I don't think it is correct. The BtH video animation was animated by GONZO (ermm ... just for the record ... its Nakawaza not gonzo. it used to say it on linkinpark.com) and the director was the guy who directed the anime scene in Kill Bill Volume 1 (his name escapes my mind). I believe anime would be a more appropriate catagory to list it as (especially seeing as that's what the band wanted the video to be and the fact it was made by an anime production studio). 68.254.114.172 23:05, 11 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Breaking The Habit Music Video - 'Classical Animation'??

message: Should Splitting the DNA be kept in the discography listing as a bootleg CD?  I think it's good to have a record of, since it's been created.  Also, if Splitting the DNA is bootleg, then where were did the demo songs on the CD such as Esaul and Superxero come from?
:If Splitting the DNA was listed as a bootleg then we would have to list all of the Linkin Park bootleg CDs which would be a waste of time. It is not an official CD released by Warner Brothers which means it has no importance to Wikipedia. SayCheese 16:16, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: But bootlegs aren't official - they shouldn't be on the page at all. They're not listed for any other band, at all. --Kiand 16:52, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: But does the fact that they're unoficcial mean that they don't exist whatsoever, such as Splitting the DNA and Las Vegas Theory?  Of course not.  I think that some of the most important ones (excluding Las Vegas Theory) should be at least noted. --Daunrealist 22:29, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the thing, bootlegs are not important and is why they should not be on Wikipedia. If you think it is dire for everyone to know, make a website about it. --SayCheese 07:57, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)

text: (resetting indent) but how do you define important with a bootleg - its just a scalper trying to make money off someone elses work. ALL bands have bootlegs, none of them are important enough to be listed on their pages. Even with a band with surprisingly little original material (two albums, more reintrepretations than tracks), no bootleg is notable or important enough to be listed. For an act like the Travelling Wilburys (where you can't get their official releases legally) it MIGHT be worth mentioning. But not a recording, touring, active act with legally available releases. --Kiand 22:33, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting the DNA -REJECTED- 

message: The video for Faint isn't monochome. Its got yellow in it too, in the early stages (the lighting), and the later parts of the video - when the band are singing in front of what looks kinda like a speaker stack, is full colour. --Kiand 04:46, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Faint - "Monochrome" 

message: Linkin Park are set to release a new album at the end of 2006 beginning of 2007 the title has not been released.
The album titles Recycle or Rotality have not been confirmed as the new title of the album.
I don't know who put that Mike said the album was going to come out September 20th of this year but thats completely untrue so I changed it to reflect what he actually said which was already stated above by someone else.  I also removed the line in the preceding paragraph that state the album would be released around halloween. 68.68.96.79 20:48, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Album 

message: According to billboard meteora has sold 5.1 million in the US. the discography has it as 4 million. i had changed it to 5.1 but it has now been changed back. 4 million is a great disservice. the whole of the discography should be ACTUAL sales instead of RIAA certs, these should only be mentioned as SHIPMENTS, as with Meteora these haven't been updated recently and it is unfair to discredit LP by (At least) 1.1 mill - this is more than many artists could even hope to sell!
:Have you considered the 1.1 million "missing" might be in a country Billboard covers that isn't the US? US isn't the only country in the world. --Kiand 19:16, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably not, but it's obvious you'd rather make fun of him than help him. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.103.159.226 (talk) 12:44, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chart Positions 

message: Has linkin park ever released a song called "part of me"? It sounds like Mike Shinoda's rapping but not Chesters vocals. Also i am a huge fan of linkin park but i want to be able to get a hold of all there songs, but i cant get Hybrid Theory EP. my last resort is to download them. Also what do you all think of "Remember the name" from fort minor? its a great song.
- Yes they did release a song called "Part of me" (and no it is not figure 09 off meteora which features similar lyrics), it was made by "Hybrid Theory" (before they became known as Linkin Park) and can be found on the album "Hybrid Theory EP". Yes that is most certainly Chester singing.
There's two versions of part of me, one is a Hybrid Theory EP demo and a demo released for Hybrid Theory when they were known as Linkin Park, which featured slight tweaks in both Chester and Mike's parts.  both can be found for download off of linkin park fansites; the demo version wasn't actually released and can be found on LPTimes.com among other fansites.backstabb 16:47, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Part of me 

message: I have revised and edited this article to make it easier to read, and I also took out the chit chat as wikipedia is not a message board or chat room.(Manderf 15:06, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I restored the infobox, as it is generally included in notable band articles. --DDerby-(talk) 16:20, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: G'job, both of you.  --daunrealist 02:52, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article revision 

message: "Shinoda produced the Hybrid Theory EP which is still being praised as Linkin Park's best work to date." - It's still being praised? Praised by who? whoever wrote this is making it look like the EP IS the best.
backstabb 18:15, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Best work to date??? 

message: Where is the source for the information about "Points of Authority" being a single as it is included on the infobox at the bottom of the Linkin Park page, I have been unable to find any information stating that it is a single. Lipzydude 23:07, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure Pts.Of.Athrty was a single, but not the original Points of Authority, and the video of the remix is an official one (unlike the other Reanimation videos). -67.163.21.39 19:25, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Points of Authority 

message: :Ok, I removed the following fansites & other external links:
:*Linkin Park Underground
:*BTH LiveDesktop
:*LPStreetTeam.pl
:*Linkin Park Forums
:I also removed the following album/tour links, because they already have Wikipedia articles (which are linked to earlier in the article), and per WP guidelines, it's better to link internally than externally:
:*Collision Course official site
:*Fort Minor
:*Projekt Revolution
:--AbsolutDan (talk) 00:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  LPU is a fanclub site, not a fansite. Band members often provide information in LPU chats, but these sources are inaccessible to anyone who isn't a member of the LPU. backstabb 17:37, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: The opening paragraph of the article says that Hybrid Theory went 19x platinum. It's actually only 10x platinum (see RIAA webstite).
: That's counting worldwide sales. -SayCheese 17:41, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  10x platinum 

message: In this article, lots of anonymous users continue to add a wrong genre categorization, "Alternative Rock". This is shallow, and denotes their systematic anti-rap bias. LP is not only Chester Bennington. -- Egr (talk), 28/8/2006
:Please read my comment under the Genre discussion. If the article had only alternative rock, then your statement would make sense. If Linkin Park was categorized as numetal/alternative rock it would not show some sort of 'anti-rap' bias. --SayCheese 20:08, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  they are NOT alternative rock 

message: Can people please stop posting their own opinions on the Article and just stupid things like "oh yeah and their recent debute album which keeps on being delayes seems to be very dissapointing." this Article is not here for abusing and Vandalism, thankyou UkNegative 18:11, 30 August (GMT)
* This really won't help. Not everyone reads the talk page. --[kazikame] 18:41, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism On The Article

message: You know, the way it's stated in the article, you'd think that Phoenix meant to kill Mike. No, this looks like more of a joke than an accident. I'd change it, but my changes are usually rejected :P --Oops, forgot I wasn't logged in. -Hello2112
*Does it even belong in the article? --[kazikame] 01:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No it doesn't and I took it off. --SayCheese 07:07, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

text: It's not worth mentioning at all. Phoenix's bass was too high up in the air for it to have actually hit Mike. --SayCheese 02:42, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Bass Incident

message: Has anyone heard the collaboration that Mike and Chester did with Handsome Boy Modeling School on the song "Rock and Roll Could Never Hip-Hop Like This (part 2)?" Would this be an appropriate note to add to the article? I believe that it may point to what Linkin Park's Sound may be like in the new albumAudric 20:05, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know if it was when you wrote that, but the song is currently mentioned on the page.  Man, I LOVE that song! -Unknownwarrior33 20:46, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Handsome Boy Modeling School

message: I just read the entire article, and I must say, this seems like it could be FA material. Does anyone agree, or am I alone in this? -- xompanthy 12:23, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the article has potential for FA status, however right now it fails the "stable" criteria (as there's ongoing battles over certain details like record sales and genre), and the article is woefully lacking citations (failing the "factually accurate" criteria). --AbsolutDan (talk) 14:33, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fails the criteria. Well it should be a GA. Michaelas10 15:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The truth is that LP themselves woefully lack citations or sources. --Baxtaba 12:32, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no citation for that. .Absolution. 11:18, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA material 

message: I just found this song online called "Vertical Limit," and it said it was by Linkin Park. It bears extremely close resemblance to "Points of Authority," with the only difference being the opening, which is shorter. It is almost identical in every other aspect.
Forfeit the game
Stop the talkshow
Something I can't catch...your time to know
Forfeit the game
'Cause tommorrow
When it's all done
You reap what you sow!
It is also not done twice in the beginning, though it does pop up again in place of the original opening where it should be. Also, the song is only 3:22. Anyone know what this is? It can't be The Crystal Method's remix, it's way too short, and I can't find anything like it in the tracks of the Xero sampler and Hybrid Theory EP.
RockMaster 23:56, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That is the demo of Points of Authority, mistakenly named as Vertical Limit. You can read the full lyrics here  --SayCheese 18:02, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vertical Limit?  

message: I'm re-adding his information. I know this article gets a lot of incorrect edits in the former members section, but it seems that this one was true. He is a percussionist and noted on his MySpace that he played drums for the Xero demo tape. --SayCheese 04:32, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you absolutely sure that this is really Scott Belsha, and that he isn't lying? I think it would be better to try and find a statement from LP or one of the bandmates that proves this. Hello2112 22:09, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I really don't see why he would lie about it. He is obviously an established artist and only mentioned his work with Xero in passing. If he was lying he would have said more, but this is just my opinion. --SayCheese 22:38, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Hmm...well, I guess it should be left up, then. I'll make an article for him. Hello2112 23:01, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

text: We don't take comments from people with unsigned comments >.> Hello2112 23:59, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Scott Belsha

message: Um...what happened to the band picture? Was it violating a copyright or something? Hello2112 23:53, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The picture 

message: Do you think they could be considered Post-grunge? I've been wondering about that. Wikipedia's description for post-grunge is that it is characterized by its radio-friendly style, distorted but often simple guitar riffs, and "soft verse, loud chorus" song patterning. Linkin Park seems to fit that description.--EverEndingStory 17:17, 6 November 2006
:All of the bands listed on the post-grunge page have little to no similarities to Linkin Park. The band--while maybe being influenced by bands like Nine Inch Nails--also have no ties to industrial rock, so I took both of the links off of the main page. --SayCheese 00:40, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Postgrunge? It's correct only for acts such ad Puddle Of Mudd or Staind. It's a totally wrong way to describe their music. They're neither postgrunge. The problem is that most LP fans are too focused only on Chester Bennington's vocals (often misinterpreted as postgrunge). They are influenced by NIN, The Roots, Depeche Mode, Metallica, Far, Depeche Mode, Aphex Twin, never by Nirvana & co. --Egr 15:41, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Post Grunge

message: I noticed the article said Shinoda produced Hybrid Theory EP on February 8, 2006.. is this date correct?
: There is nothing on the article that says that. The only mention of February 8th is when the band announced that Rick Rubin would be producing their next album. -SayCheese 04:02, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date Accurateness.. 

message: Is it really important to mention this in the article? Every new event that relates to Linkin Park doesn't need to be added. If it really needs to stay it should be moved to the LPU article. (By the way, if you want to hear the songs join the LPU. It's worth much more than just the CD) --SayCheese 17:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  LPU 6 

message: Look at the page history for the guy that keeps writing "!!!!!!!!!!LINKIN PARK RULZ!!!!!!!!!!" He's changed the first section to that repeatedly, no matter how many times we reverted it. 64.121.35.146 04:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And we'll keep reverting it. It takes less effort to do so than the vandalism itself. --AbsolutDan (talk) 01:56, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Vandalism

message: If they're from Agoura Hills, California, as the page says, why does their origin say "Los Angeles"? Those are two different cities, and they should not be grouped under one blanket term "Los Angeles". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Arspickles17 (talk • contribs) 11:08, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin

message: Some users continue to remove this line, "The band also collaborated with other notable artists, ...". This shouldn't be removed without any reliable reason, that they have collaborated with other artists is objective and recognizable (Reanimation, Collision Course, the song "It's Goin' Down"). --Baxtaba 12:10, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Odjebikonju 14:09, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, but THEIR works have been created along with that musicians. --
Baxtaba 14:24, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collaborations 

message: check the edit history, I edited it. Dragong4 08:29, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's referred to worldwide sales, not only in the US. --Baxtaba 10:16, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  lol 20 million albums? LAFF 

message: Close5218 10:54, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New picture

message: TRL Germany presented an exclusive Qwerty Demo on the broadcast. After the clip was played TRL's featured guest German rapper Sido replied stating it sounded like every other Linkin Park song. He went on to mention that he did not like the screaming and that Chester's voice is not good. And that that Evanescence is better. He also said the rapping wasn't to good either. When the moderator mentioned that the rapper was the Solo Artist behind the success of Fort Minor, Sido mearly retorted by saying Fort Minor was "Ca Ca". The video can be veiwed here:[YouTube Link]
I removed this entire quote from the end of the "Recent events" section. This quote (or whatever you want to call it) added absolutely nothing to the article. Not only that, but it looks as if it was written by a ten-year-old. --These7enthprophet 03:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I only regret that I did not find it first. .Absolution. 11:41, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  German Rapper Sido?