Talk:Battle of Thymbra

message: For the Persian strength figure wouldn't 30,000 be easiest? It was considered to be the standard formation of Cyrus' armies. It it is listed by Alxander Campbell as the strength and Paul Davis' 20,000-50,000 range coincides withe 30,000 figure. Even with an average, Davis arguing 35,000.--Arsenous Commodore 19:25, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I always find it disturbing when people cite figures to an author without a page number and their information is not within that work. Campbell, on page 387, gives Persian numbers as 31,000 but is not referring to the Battle of Thymbra; on page 388, he writes of Cyrus "with about 80,000 men" marching "in quest of 400,000." I cannot confirm 30,000 being the standard formation of Cyrus' armies but it seems to be a good estimate. Of the Lydian numbers, Davis only states that their numbers are "unknown, but probably more than those of Persia" on page 7 altho the info box states 100,000+. --Gingerbreadman4290 17:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strength Figures 

message: I'm kind of wondering how far citation of sources can go, as entire sets of paragraphs are copied directly from the Paul K Davis book 100 Decisive Battles with absolutely no changes, whatsoever. This is at least moderately unprofessional and smacks of plagiarism to me.--CarlSandburgPI (talk) 13:55, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for identifying these problems.  Another time, it would be good to remove the paragraphs as you notice them.  I have removed the affected sections, meaning that the article will likely need to rewriting to cover the topic appropriately. --Slp1 (talk) 22:55, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi there, I think it was about time we update this article. Since my interest in ancient history, both academically and as a hobby, this was one the first battles I edited pertaining to the Achaemenids. It caught my eye last year when researching the first interactions between early Eastern and Western civilizations, which in military history this would be considered one of the first important encounters. I guess more people are becoming interested because of the increasing media attention on the middle east. If anyone needs help or would like to improve this article feel free to do so. So I think it was really good that Professor Keshik updated that part of the article, and I'm glad as it seems he somewhat supports that this is a historical battle. Bests! Eirione (talk) 07:35, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Plagiarism?

message: This article, as nearly all of theWP content I have seen Cyrus' military involvements, are series of texts that are either plagiarised—cribbed from sources as quotes without being so demarcated—or they otherwise boldly appear as tomes of text without inline references.
If they cite soured at all, they are plagiarised as described (See Wars of Cyrus the Great) or cite sources untraceably (e.g., citing books without page numbers).
This is not an encyclopedic effort. It is worse than any final student effort that has ever crossed my desk. It is an editor's sandbox on public display. 73.210.154.39 (talk) 21:43, 17 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article should be pulled as non-encyclopedic 

message: Given the issues stated here and the unaddressed improvement tags from 2015, it cannot be considered that this article properly covers the subject and hence B2 has been reassessed as "no".  Uncritical reliance on primary sources and non-scholarly secondary sources is not adequate in this case and could seriously mislead. Monstrelet (talk) 08:12, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reassess MILHIST rating 

message: Persian immortal was built during the time of Darius the Great and not during the time of Cyrus the Great Phoenix0758 (talk) 15:50, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  persian immortal