Talk:Religious Zionism

message: I propose a move to Religious Zionism. It is a more straightforward, more commonly used term, and it is also more accurate, as it is more of an ideology (hence, -ism) than a movement. --DLandTALK 04:35, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good. Go for it! Ayinyud 07:36, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move 

message: Welcome Wikipedia:WikiProject Orthodox Judaism. Please join if you are interested. Thank you. IZAK 09:07, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Orthodox Judaism 

message: I removed Meir Kahane because he claimed to be Haredi and he lived in Matersdorf. While his ideas certainly influenced many in the religious ZIonist camp, he himself was not a religious zionist leader. His brother, Nachman, however, was a religious zionist leader. --Jayrav 16:20, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meir Kahane

message: If anyone is interested in further work, here are 113 Religious Zionist Rabbis on the Hebrew Wiki
http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%98%D7%92%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%A8%D7%91%D7%A0%D7%99_%D7%94%D7%A6%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%94%D7%93%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%AA
And many entires about religious Zionism
http://he.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D7%A7%D7%98%D7%92%D7%95%D7%A8%D7%99%D7%94:%D7%A6%D7%99%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%95%D7%AA_%D7%93%D7%AA%D7%99%D7%AA
Enjoy--Jayrav 16:25, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hebrew Wiki

message: Most of this section of the article is a duplicate of the Mizrakhi (Religious Zionism) article, which is a stub. Wouldn't it be better to eliminate this redundancy? Any preferences on whether to eliminate the stub, at least until someone is prepared to expand it, or to delete most of it's duplication in this article? --Rich Janis 10:01, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  History and organizations 

message: Jayjg, I disagree with your wholesale removal of the section "Notable religious Zionist texts" and its contents.  If these aren't relevant texts, what would be? Hertz1888 16:55, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to whom are they "Notable religious Zionist texts? The claim that these particular texts are important ones is original research; you need to find a secondary sources making that claim. Kahane's works in particular are only important in the development of the ideology of Kahanism, not Religious Zionism. Jayjg (talk) 17:05, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religious Zionist texts 

message: There are other forms of Zionism. And "Zion" is associated. We need to WP:DAB. --Ludvikus (talk) 11:51, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zion (disambiguation) 

message: The statement that religious Zionism combines Zionism and Judaism is propaganda. It implies that secular Zionists, EG Ben Gurion were not Jewish, or that Zionism is not intrinsically a part of Judaism, and that there is only one sort of legitimate "Judaism."  In Hebrew propaganda of religious Zionists, the word used is "Yahadut" and this is a direct translation.  I am changing it to "religious Judaism." I hope that is OK. [[Mewnews (talk) 11:08, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Combination of Zionism and Judaism 

message: This entire section is problematic, since not all religious Zionists believe in land of Israel etc. (eg Rabbi Melchior) and since this was not always the ideology of religious Zionism. 
Another problem is that Rabbi Kalischer was not part of the more modern religious Zionist movement but of an older generation and therefore references to him are confusing. His idea was different from that of later religious Zionists Rabbis Berlin, Reines and Mohilewer (Mohilever) need to be mentioned in this context. A good understanding of the subject can be gained from Parallels Meet, by Ehud Luz. [[Mewnews (talk) 11:57, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ideology 

message: The struggle for modernization of Jewish education was a part of the Mizrachi program and needs to be mentioned IMO. [[[User:Mewnews|Mewnews]] (talk) 11:19, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hebrew Education 

message: I am proposing to add new content to this article.  The proposed content is at  Talk:Criticism of Judaism/Proposed section on Middle East land-ownership conflict.  Any comments on the proposal should be added to the on-going discussion at Talk:Criticism of Judaism#Proposal for new section: "Critics claim that Judaism's precepts have led to unfair land-ownership practices and expulsion of peoples in the Middle East" so the discussion is not spread over two places.   The discussion could be moved here, but be sure to put a notification in Talk:Criticism of Judaism first.   Thanks.  --Noleander (talk) 14:09, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed new content on "Criticism of Religious Zionism" 

message: My first post - hope it's OK to create section for Misc. I wanted to comment that the word justifies/justified (search for them at the top) seems inherently defensive or at least presents an opinion. I would recommend "...that encourages the Zionist efforts to build a Jewish state..." and "...who supported Zionism according Jewish law and urged...", or something along those lines (proposed?). Raanon (talk) 08:55, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miscellaneous 

message: Perhaps missing would be details linking the roots of the ideology to circa 800BCE nationalist-religious tradition, i.e. in the Torah?  There is mention in the belief that the land was given by YHWH as promised, but no details. 76.10.128.192 (talk) 16:33, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ideology history 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello User 1l2l3k. I don't know what your background is. However being a former ("Ultra") Orthodox Jew myself, I can assure you that your edit was incorrect. There are many, many religious Jews who do not believe Jews have a God-given right to always live in the Land of Israel. There are hundreds of thousands of religious Jews, very Orthodox ones, who disagree with that view. So please do not change that text again. For the record, this is about this edit. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Religious_Zionism&diff=872899243&oldid=872853006 --Piz d'Es-Cha (talk) 20:28, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand your point, so I'm ok with your revert. --1l2l3k (talk) 20:40, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zionist vs Religious Jews