Talk:Mao (card game)

message: I have never played this game but, last night, tried to teach myself based on this article.  Let me ask a few things that were not clear that came up in the game.
A new section for the chairman?:
1. It appears that there only 1 person who knows the "current" rules at the start of the game.  Do we call this person "the Chairman"?  (Assuming not Dutch rules.)  Is the chairman, therefore, the final authority on the rules and the one most likely to deal the "bad call"?
  Answer: The person that wins a round makes a rule and keeps it secret. So nobody knows all the rule which is the fun of the game.
2. It sounded like the winner becomes the dealer and adds a rule.  Does he, therefore, become the chairman?
Updated Penalties section:
3. Is it only the chairman who deals penalty cards or can any player do it?
3A. If only the chairman does the enforcing, should the chairman fails to enforce a penalty but some other player knows that it should be enforced, is there a penalty to the chairman?
Cavebear42 (talk) 21:35, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarification on rules

message: There are too many  on this page. Many of the rules listed here are considered "folk versions" of the game. Therefore, the so-called "book versions" won't ever be found ! It is time to clean up this page. Krenakarore (talk) 12:27, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Facts

message: By the very nature of the game, there are countless rule variants.  We cannot and should not endeavor to list them all--see WP:INDISCRIMINATE.  First, please, don't add more variant house rules.  Second, we need to go in and clean up this mess.  I'm not entirely certain how to begin that project, although the first place to start will be the sources--any rule not mentioned in a reliable source will be removed; and then we'll see what's left.  Anyone else is welcome to start this, or I'll do it when I have time. Qwyrxian (talk) 14:07, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Seconded. It might be easiest (and produce a more readable article) just to pick one prominently documented variant as an example, explain that variant in full, and then say "other variants exist with different penalties". I don't think we gain that much by piling together disparate rules from assorted sources. --McGeddon (talk) 14:17, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many rules 

message: Why are the rules listed if the object of the game is to learn the rule 
"The game forbids its players from explaining the rules, and new players are often told only "the only rule you may be told is this one.""
WTF!!!!!!!!!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.96.236.181 (talk) 04:16, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This same argument has gone on in magic trick articles, such as Zig Zag Girl where the secret behind the trick is revealed. The consensus is that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and not beholden to outside standards. We're bound by the rules of Wikipedia, not by the rules of a card game.Czolgolz (talk) 13:19, 31 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: As well as secretive societies such as the Freemasons.Cavebear42 (talk) 21:35, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rules? 

message: I may have an older reference here:
The Oxford English Dictionary has the following subentry under "living, noun".  This would date it to 1570 but may be a different game entirely.   It is item 6 on the following link. 
http://www.oed.com/view/Entry/109357
Since I do not know Mao, I am not sure.    
8tavian (talk) 20:07, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The line about it being "a term in the game of Maw"? ("If you turne vp the ace of hartes, and thereby make either partie aboue xxvj, the contrary part must haue liuings; but if the contrary parte bee xxv, by meanes whereof liuings sets them out, then is he who turned vp the ace of hartes to make for the set.") "Maw" seems to be a variant name for the card game Forty-fives. --McGeddon (talk) 13:50, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think I heard that this game origins in China, and was a reaction to the fear to speak out clearly about what the government says, but to nevertheless spread the information. But that is something that I believe to remember from hearsay roughly 15 years ago. I'd love to hear if someone has information on this topic or if my memory (or the hearsay of it) is just plain wrong.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:A62:1542:AD01:6D9:F5FF:FEF5:72D5 (talk) 20:23, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  History: Earliest reference 

message: In standard Oxford rules, apart from starting with 5 cards (which is not listed as an option), the main difference is that the game is played without rounds or a particular chairman/dealer.  Play continues when someone goes out, and they may deal themselves back in with "Introducing new rule".  This rule is not revealed (except by penalising).
2620:104:4007:64:96E:1CD0:D05C:B55C (talk) 12:59, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rounds 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: change "In most cases where a penalty is called" to "In most cases when a penalty is called" 73.231.39.177 (talk) 22:05, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done; Minor edit only. —KuyaBriBriTalk 17:45, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 31 July 2019 

message: Replace the first paragfraph in "Adding Rules" section with the following text. It ommits the used source, TV Tropes, because it is not reliable source of information for references and external links per section 12 of WP:ELNO and WP:RSP.
In many variants an additional rule is silently and secretly added to the game with each round. It is customary for a player (often the winner of the previous round, sometimes the next person to deal) to add one new rule to the game. In a game with only one round, players who have gotten rid of all their cards may make a rule for those still in the game. Sometimes a new rule is explained to one other player (sometimes the dealer, sometimes a runner-up winner of the round), both to ensure consistency of the rule and consistency of its enforcement. Any new rules are allowed, but it must not be biased towards a player. 
2603:7000:1F00:6B91:EDB1:495F:D4EB:8C6F (talk) 19:20, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: melecie  t - 01:23, 16 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 November 2021