Talk:Turkish Angora

message: It is the direct quote from the study can't you see? It talks about the Ragdoll AND Bengal cats as distinct breed and then additionally mentions the same goes for the Turkish and USA Angoras, please don't twist words here. It's clearly written.
This bolded part IS a direct quote from the study. Do you want ı can send a paper for you to see?
I took many quotes which speak the similar things. You just ignored them.
There is information about the subgroups - are you blind? It says some Angoras were categorized AS Mediterranean and some as European. This means they are DİFFERENT breeds! You can NOT be both at the same time!
Yes, mostly USA Angoras were used, but a FEW came from Turkey too. And those cats turned out are very different breed from USA pedigreed Angoras.
Do not argue with genetic data and try to make up your own conclusions here. You obviously have a vested interest in this topic. Are you somehow related with Turkish Angora breeders?
Like mentioning Turkish Van and Angora are two different breeds we have a  right to mention that the Angoras from USA are different from Turkish cats too.
--Ankara Kedisi  11:16, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You've accused me of vandalism, not reading the study, being a breeder(as if that means anything) and called me blind(oh the irony). All while failing to understand something as simple as how quotations work. Seriously, go fuck yourself. I'm done here.--Dodo bird (talk) 12:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Are you blind or you haven't read an original scientific study?

message: Ankara Zoo was established in 1933 according to official site http://www.ankarazoo.gov.tr (in Turkish only)
However, in article it was said that:
"In 1917, The Government of Turkey in conjunction with the Ankara Zoo began a meticulous breeding program..."
Furthermore, the given reference for this sentence does not contain this information at all.
88.230.215.25 (talk) 21:46, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Ankara Zoo in 1917?

message: This article completes neglects the characteristics of this breed's personality traits.  For example, certain breeds bond with one owner.  Certain breeds are extremely sensitive or moody.  Certain breeds don't really bond with any owner and prefer their own independence.   From what I have heard, the Turkish cats bond with one single owner and prefer a very close relationship.  
Their personality traits are a very important part of the breed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.17.65.14 (talk) 01:25, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personality 

message: * I thought about and decided against moving this page under the title of "Ankara cat" for the simple reason that Google gave 28,200 hits for "Turkish Angora", and 173 hits for "Ankara cat". So, Turkish Angora it is. Ankara cat redirects, and there's also a link from Angora.
* British Angora cat is not related to the Angora Cat (also known as "Turkish Angora", "Ankara cat", etc.). It is a man-made breed originated in Britain in mid 20th century, based on Java/Bali cats.
Mu5ti 11:42, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)
* I completely agree with all of the behavioral characteristics - my cat exhibits every one! --JTA 16:52, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Some remarks

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:ErnstStavroBlofeld.jpg

message: If swimming is one of the important characteristics of this breed, the article would benefit from a photo of one of these cats enjoying being wet.  --Una Smith (talk) 04:03, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swimming 

message: Can we not get a better headline picture?  It looks like a stray in between coats and it looks awful.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.232.81.41 (talk) 17:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  File:Agora_green.jpg I just adjusted a better one. (Yezdannuri (talk) 11:43, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better Picture 

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message: Please stop reverting each other and start using this talk page to argue your position. If you keep this up both of you will can be blocked for Wikipedia:Edit warring.--Dodo bird (talk) 02:41, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Genetics study

message: The following section is an interpretation of scientific study, using evidence from the The ascent of cat breeds: Genetic evaluations of breeds and worldwide random-bred populations. This interpretation does not appear to agree with the publication.   Phylogenetic trees do NOT show that anything is "more related" than any other breed, it only shows the origin of the gene pool overall. 
Yes,  this is correct, it shows the origin of the Turkish Angora being more North African and having influence from western cat breeds. Why play with words? 
Phylogenetic trees only show similarities of origin, rather than genetic relation, calling into question the interpretation that the Turkish Angora is "more related" to any particular breed of cat. 
Similarities or relation, but origin shown in phylogenetic tree is North African. Why Turkish street cats which are in separated branch with İsreal, but not with Turkish Angora. Isn't Angora a cat breed originated in Turkey? The paper itself states that North African, Tunisian cats as well breed Egyptian Mau have strong connection to Western cats)--Ankara Kedisi  05:54, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genetics of Turkish Angora cats 

message: I removed the entire following attack subsection from the "Genetics" section:
===Clarification===
It is clear from the graphs contained in the 2012 Turkish Cat Genetics Study that the majority of the Turkish Angora samples submitted show only minor traces of the original Ankara Zoo cats.  Ankara Zoo sample No 9575 shows a 72.14% signature mistakenly referred to as the Cyprus group since it is also common to many Cyprus cats—whereas the Turkish Angoras of the cat fancy  show a generally insignificant but widely variable percentage this critical identifying signature. Other examples from Turkey that show these signatures are 13558, 76.77%,  and   9702, 97.02%.  Supposed samples from Turkey that matched the cat fancy Angoras cannot be verified or confirmed. In fact, the supposed authors of those samples deny any knowledge of them.
Considering that these "scientific studies" from the genetics laboratory of Leslie Lyons of UC Davis assume that American Turkish Angoras are the authentic Turkish Angoras, as her website says, then cats that differ from those samples are not Turkish Angoras. This is highly flawed and misleading pseudo-science, which breeders may consider genetic proof.
Please note that the 2012 Turkish Cat Genetics Study was neither published nor is available on a webpage but consists only of an e-mail with attached graphs sent to interested Turkish cat breeders. Further details and citations may be obtainable at.-  http://www.turkishangoracat.org/arastirma.aspx?arastirmaId=1
If anything like this, scrubbed of attack language, is reinserted, it needs reliable sources. If material in the extant "Genetics" section is disputed, then remove it and hash out the disputes here. — SMcCandlish  Talk⇒ ɖ⊝כ⊙þ  Contrib.  03:32, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed genetics attack subsection 

message: Why "In popular culture" section is removed from the article? Joe feyzullah (talk) 18:54, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular culture 

message: Hi 103.115.195.13 (talk) 08:33, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the price of the cat 

message: As per MOS:IMAGERELEVANCE Sankofa Chiswick (talk) 10:30, 30 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excess of images?