Wikipedia talk:Jordanhill commemoration

message: ===Supporters===
# user:Jh1977
# user:zanimum
# user:smurrayinchester
# user:BillyH
# user:gsreynolds
# user:ksyme99
# user:RealMontrealer
# user:jollygreengiant
# Gurch 20:38, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See also #Where can people put oppose votes? below.
# Celcius 20:10, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: By the way, considering "articles without links to other articles" as not being articles (see Special:Statistics) is an arbitrary discrimination, and non-sense. A web page without any link to other web page is still a web page. I suggest swiftly removing from Talk:Jordanhill railway station the banner "This article has been certified as the Millionth English Wikipedia article". What kind of certification is it? "To certify" means "to attest as certain". I don't think it is certain that this article was the millionth article. It may have been the millionth article created with links to other articles, but nothing more. Guys, I am afraid to say Jordanhill railway station was not the millionth article of Wikipedia. --Edcolins 22:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Uhh, actually, i'm fairly certain some people went and backtracked through the database to confirm the number of articles at the time, not just Special:Statistics. Homestarmy 00:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

text: On the other hand, I feel if the foundation pay for say, a bench, that would be a better idea. A plaque just seems so.. over the top. The bench could certainly have a plaque on it, but having just a plaque on the wall seems strange. A plaque normally commemorates a death or something historic in my opinion. Jack?! 12:37, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Votes (145 support, 13 oppose)

message: # user:Jh1977
# user:zanimum
# user:smurrayinchester
# user:BillyH
# user:gsreynolds
# user:ksyme99
# user:RealMontrealer
# user:jollygreengiant
# Gurch 20:38, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Supporters

message: :See also #Where can people put oppose votes? below.
# Celcius 20:10, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: By the way, considering "articles without links to other articles" as not being articles (see Special:Statistics) is an arbitrary discrimination, and non-sense. A web page without any link to other web page is still a web page. I suggest swiftly removing from Talk:Jordanhill railway station the banner "This article has been certified as the Millionth English Wikipedia article". What kind of certification is it? "To certify" means "to attest as certain". I don't think it is certain that this article was the millionth article. It may have been the millionth article created with links to other articles, but nothing more. Guys, I am afraid to say Jordanhill railway station was not the millionth article of Wikipedia. --Edcolins 22:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Uhh, actually, i'm fairly certain some people went and backtracked through the database to confirm the number of articles at the time, not just Special:Statistics. Homestarmy 00:10, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

text: On the other hand, I feel if the foundation pay for say, a bench, that would be a better idea. A plaque just seems so.. over the top. The bench could certainly have a plaque on it, but having just a plaque on the wall seems strange. A plaque normally commemorates a death or something historic in my opinion. Jack?! 12:37, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Opposers

message: This page currently has the following in its inception: "This is not meant to be tacky, self-obsessed, or put an emphasis on quantity over quality. This commemoration simply is to provide a physical commemoration of the efforts of thousands of people worldwide who raised the project to the level it is at." Is it not possible that some people support a commemoration thinking it is tacky, self-obsessed and putting emphasis on quantity over quality, but recognising the "marketing" opportunity? -- Grahn 23:33, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasons for support 

message: Some people have opposed this idea because it is too self obssed.  Honestly that is why I like it. Wikipedia is already a huge website, and it needs to take more pride in that.  Personally I don't care what colour the plaque is, and I think that Wikipedia should just get permission form the owner of the train station and put one up ourselves, not to get some official goverment thing going.  I kind of do like the suggestion above that we put up a chalk board, (which is really just an old school wiki). Maybe put it up as a one year annaversity of reaching one million? --T-rex 23:35, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Two benches and a chalkboard? --James S. 23:49, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

text: The chalk board idea is excellent.  Make it permanant however, in a corner, giving a small paragraph with one sentence each for explaning what Wikipedia is, telling why the chalkboard is there, instructing people to make their own plaque, requesting vandals leave it alone.  IMHO, zappa 07:16, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the chalkboard idea, but a "one year on" commemoration may be too long. In fact, a year on we may be nigh on 2 million articles. I suppose we can't guarantee that the proposal would be transferrable to the subject of the two millionth article though. BigBlueFish 13:07, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I strongly support the chalkboard idea. It looks better than the other proposals, and it is basically a (old-style) wiki format. Plus it seems less likely to be stolen or vandalised. Daniel (‽) 18:31, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

text: A mock-up of the chalkboard idea is now on at Wikipedia:Jordanhill commemoration/Plaque copy. Feel free to edit. Daniel (‽) 17:37, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the chalkboard idea. Let's keep it nice and whimsical. BrokenSegue 00:50, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I also support the idea of a blackboard. It's not too serious, it symbolises what Wikipedia stands for, and will get people's attention Lurker your words/my deeds 15:09, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

text: It seems we are getting some support behind this idea. Perhaps this idea should be explored further? Lurker talk 15:32, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: CommentBoth of these oppositions could also have been applied to Wikipedia in general (it could be vandalised, it's not practical, it won't last) but look at it now. I think that a plaque which embodies the same concepts as the encyclopedia it honours is a truly great thing. —Daniel (‽) 20:17, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a slight technological difference between a chalkboard and a wiki.  The practicality of one has no bearing on the practicality of the other.  --Doradus 00:38, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Chalk board

message: When will the plaque be put there? I want to go an see it. I've been to the UK three times, but never to Scotland. I want to visit Jordanhill in Glasgow and take a photograph of the plaque. JIP | Talk 19:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Likely never, because the Foundation has stated they won't pay for it, and no one's officially "passed the hat".  --  Zanimum 18:08, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be willing to contribute, but without the foundation how can we be sure that the money doesn't go to some scam?  Fishal 03:32, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  When will the plaque be put there? 

message: It's nearly a year (or maybe more?), when this was suggested. Is the plaque there or it will never be? --Have a nice day. Running 01:05, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's nearly a year - is the plaque there? 

message: so, when the vandals come and deface the plaque or bench (which they will), who will pay to clean it up? in real life, it's not as easy as clicking an undo button.. 131.111.24.187 08:44, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's Glasgow. It's an unmanned railway station. Of course it'll get vandalised. Either of those would be sufficient to virtually guarantee that it would. Both of them means there's no doubt. --ascorbic 13:21, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  vandals 

message: I am Scottish myself, and was in Glasgow last year, although do not live there. I went on a train through the city whilst there, too. I knew about this being the millionth article at the time, but was not thinking about it then. If I go back again I may take some proper photographs, although at the moment that is very unlikely.
As for the idea of a commemoration, I find it interesting but ultimately I do not think it will happen.
-h i s   s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 09:15, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interesting idea...