Talk:List of Japanese comedians

message: Complete rewrite of the list completed on 02/08/06. Updated to be in-line with the equivalent page on ja:wiki. Quite a few of the listings in the English version weren't included in the Japanese version, so I've checked for validity (most weren't needed) and left the others commented (not deleted). Many of them may be names of older geinin/acts so I'm going to try to find out as many as I can and write them back in, especially for manzai acts which have been removed over time from the Japanese list.
If you are reinserting a name that is presently commented (that I couldn't find a source for) please include the kanji for the name as to make it searchable in Japanese. Also try to conform to the style of the page in order to make it easiest to find. English words used in Japanese are spelled in English, but Japanese words are never translated into English (at least on this page). E.g. ダチョウ倶楽部 is Dachō Club, not Ostrich Club or Ostrich Kurabu.
The names are arranged in alphabetical order by surname, and they are all listed in English <given name> <last name> style. Names written in katakana with English meanings are translated, thus Robaato becomes Robert etc., and this is how I will be creating the article names as well. Names that don't appear to be in English name order probably are like that because a) it's not a person's name (it's the combi name) b) the gainin specifically uses that order in English, e.g. 所ジョージ (Tokoro George, not George Tokoro).
Particles like "the" and "a" are not considered in alphabetization. Also, nicknames are not used, rather the full version of their most common name, e.g. Razor Ramon HG, not HG or Sumitani etc.
In alphabetizing, macrons are ignored, so "ō" is treated as an "o", etc.
The history of my edits to this article can be viewed at User:Freshgavin/Sandbox/List of Japanese comedians.
  freshgavin TALK    06:18, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: As is often the case with such lists on Wikipedia, the current version mistakes current owarai geinin as the representatives of Japanese comedy. They are not. There is a long history of Japanese comedy before the current batch. I have filled in some of the most egregious omissions (how could any list of Japanese comedians not include Enoken?????), but there are many more to fill in. If one were to follow the general meaning of the term "comedian" (the page says it uses the definition in the "broadest sense"), for instance, then rakugo comedians should be included as well (there are some here, but the entire Yanagiya and Sanyutei lines are missing, for instance). There are all the manzai comedians before the current batch, such as Achako and Entatsu, who really established the form. This list needs major help.Michitaro (talk) 14:05, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need to update 

message: In March 2018, an editor went through this page and cut the vast majority of entries, focusing on cutting names without pages on the English Wikipedia, or without references. This trimming was rather drastic, since it ended up cutting a lot of entries that did have pages on the English Wikipedia but that had not yet been linked here. I tried to rescue most of them, though I might have missed a few. The editor cut these entries for lack of proof of notability. And it is true that little had been done for most of the names on the list for about a decade. I thus concur with trimming. But the result is that quite a number of names or groups that are without a doubt notable have been cut, for the simple fact that of the few people working on Japan-related pages on Wikipedia, no one had gotten around to making these pages. The list, as it was largely created in 2006, was actually the fruit of some considerable work and, even though it had its problems (noted above), was a good list of where to start. I've made a few additions/pages over the years, but I encourage others to tackle these. One might want to look at this, which is the version of this list before it was trimmed, to get a sense of what is missing. (Since the list was not frequently updated, it misses a number of recent comedians.) Michitaro (talk) 05:36, 13 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Significant trimming