Talk:Ethnic groups in Chinese history

message: Page moved from Tribes in Chinese history b/c the current title sounds more NPOVed Ktsquare
:would nationalities be too POV? JinFX 03:27, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Bathrobe's rationale sounds reasonable, reverted. I.H.S.V. (talk) 21:27, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move 

message: Can we add to this table the names of any ancient nation/people/ethicity which was documented in chinese chronicles? I was thinking about the 滑.Zestauferov 02:58, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions 

message: We need a Wikipedia article on the Xi people.  Badagnani 03:12, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xi 

message: Hello, I'm working on :Image:China, 742.svg, and my source (the Cambridge History of China), put the following people or states Balhae, Bohai, Khitans, Xi, Tujue, Tubo, Nanzhao. In bold are the missing entities. Are they peoples or Kingdom ? 
An other remark is that -out of Miao people- they are no people from south. Yug (talk) 04:59, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Southern people missing ? 

message: Should there be a listing for Han people as an ethnic group?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.173.82.81 (talk) 20:47, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: One would think that a case could be easily made for this to be the most important ethnic group in Chinese history. Dcattell (talk) 23:06, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Han 

message: Avar (Encyclopædia Britannica Article)
one of a people of undetermined origin and language, who, playing an important role in eastern Europe (6th–9th century), built an empire in the area between the Adriatic and the Baltic Sea and between the Elbe and Dnieper rivers (6th–8th century). Inhabiting an area in the Caucasus region in 558, they intervened in Germanic tribal wars, allied with the Lombards to overthrow the Gepidae (allies of Byzantium), and between 550 and 575 established themselves in the Hungarian plain between the Danube and Tisza rivers. This area became the centre of their empire, which reached its peak at the end of the 6th century.
The Avars engaged in wars against Byzantium, almost occupying Constantinople in 626, and against the Merovingians; they also were partly responsible for the southward migration of the Serbs and the Croats. In the second half of the 7th century, internal discord resulted in the expulsion of about 9,000 dissidents from the Avar empire. The state, further weakened by a revolt precipitated by the creation of the Bulgarian state in the Balkans (680), survived until 805 when it submitted to Charlemagne. 
"Avar." Encyclopædia Britannica from Encyclopædia Britannica 2007 Ultimate Reference Suite . (2008).
Your "ozturkler. com" is panturkistic (nationalist, chauvinistic) resource. Whence it is taken, what Yuechih were Uigurs? And what Uigurs are available in view of? The Population of modern Uigur area of China till 8 centuries spoke on chotaneze (iranian) language. Has passed on Turkic under influence Turkic Tokuz-Oguzes later. Here specially all confuses by to drag idea about "turkic" Avars and Yuechih. But even the British Encyclopaedia about "turkic" avars does not speak anything.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.24.80.233 (talk) 18:24, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Tocharian ancestry among Uighurs is proven by genetic data. And Avars... would not be a correct term,  I agree. But there is no Panturkic agenda here, much the opposite, as this page gives far too much credence to sketchy racist (yes, they are) Chinese classical authors who do little but paint people as barbarians who (oh, how horrible) eat their food raw, live in caves, and so on. That type of author isn't going to be one that is trustworthy for actual ethnic classification- but that is how names of other groups have always been in Chinese historical documents. They are carelessly applied here and there without much deliberation, and many were interchangeable. Indeed there were some groups that very well may have been legit, but for the most part, there was absolutely nothing scientific about the works of the Chinese classical authors, and they are being given far too much authority here. I would much prefer to see genetic tests and archeology considered as well. And, worst of all, this page has no sources. If I wanted, I could make a case for its deletion. --Yalens (talk) 23:53, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  STOP TO PANTURKIST PROPAGANDA! 

message: In this list I couldn't find Xiongnu and Tuoba. Are they included within Wuhuan, Xianbei or Jie ? Nedim Ardoğa (talk) 08:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xiongnu