Talk:Rodrigues solitaire

message: Might as well quote the few accounts at length, they're in the public domain, and most books about the bird I've read publish them in full. FunkMonk (talk) 04:32, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: On a different note, some 19th century and early 20th century sources mention that a supposed gizzard stone of this bird is housed in Cambridge, but no later sources mention it. Anyone know what happened to it, and if it was genuine? FunkMonk (talk) 19:58, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: Could go into a little more detail on the taxonomy - i.e. on what basis the relationships have been determined (osteology/genetic etc.) Much like raphinae article, which itself could have alot more detail...Casliber (talk · contribs) 14:44, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, there's a little about skeletal similarities and differences to the Dodo and other pigeons in the description section, do you mean that such should be in the taxonomy section instead? The Newton brothers wrote that the Solitaire was intermediate between the Dodo and regular pigeons in anatomy, that could maybe be interesting to add there as well. FunkMonk (talk) 15:20, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point (damn I didn't register that) - that material looks good where it is, maybe just skim on similarities differences in osteology only WRT classification in taxonomy....Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:55, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I did add some taxonomy stuff since last, don't know if it's enough, but the annoying thing is that the sources seem to compare the Solitaire to the Dodo, and then just take the Solitaire's relation to the pigeons as given through its relation with the Dodo. Something like the systematic comparison paragraph I just added to the Dodo article is probably what you had in mind, but I just can't find such in the Solitaire sources... FunkMonk (talk) 21:05, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pre-FAC feedback 

message: Some of the in-line references to book sources to not permit easy verification, which mignt not be consistent with WP:MOS nor FA status. Examples: Snowman (talk) 20:07, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. FunkMonk (talk) 19:55, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed:  Fuller 2001, pp. 203–205. FunkMonk (talk) 14:31, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Doesn't matter if the link is dead, there is a full citation, and scientific articles don't even need links in the first place. FunkMonk (talk) 14:32, 20 February 2013 (UTC)

text: Well, again, if it wasn't brought up during two separate FACs, why should it be a problem now? FunkMonk (talk) 20:35, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: See MOS. Snowman (talk) 20:49, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you point to anything specific? FunkMonk (talk) 00:19, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Verification and book citations. Snowman (talk) 23:28, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Where does it state a page range can be "too large"? FunkMonk (talk) 23:52, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:V.  Snowman (talk) 21:30, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Where? Could you quote the relevant passage? FunkMonk (talk) 00:42, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

text: In any case, I've now fixed the issues out of boredom. Some of the problems were created when the citer style was changed, and duplicate cites with no page numbers were made for some reason. FunkMonk (talk) 19:54, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verification 

message: Joylon C. Parish (2012). "The Dodo and the Solitaire: A Natural History"  (see ) Sasata (talk) 22:45, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've looked at the preview, and there doesn't seem to be any "new" info, more like a review of stuff that is already present in this article. But if anything useful is found, feel free to add. FunkMonk (talk) 22:47, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  New source 

message: Descriptions of the landscape and trees on the island might help to explain more about the bird's environment. Leguat described the landscape in his book. Snowman (talk) 20:44, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I think a modern source would be more appropriate for that, since most of the plants still exist. There should be something in Cheke Hume 2008. FunkMonk (talk) 23:33, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Leguat described the island at the time when the bird lived there. He described tall trees providing a continuous overhead canopy, and I presume this is what the vegetation in the colour reconstruction is based on (and Leguat's book is mentioned in the image description on Commons). I have recently uploaded some modern holiday photographs from flickr to Commons showing a rather treeless Rodrigues landscape, which I presume gives some idea of the destruction of the forests. I had the idea that showing a modern picture of the treeless landscape would help the "Relationship with humans" or "Extinction" sections. It would also provide a little more colour (mainly green) to the article, which has mainly black and white photographs. Snowman (talk) 12:16, 8 January 2014 (UTC)

text: Well, there's not really any room left for images. And it would be a bit too synthesis-like to add info that is not directly related to the bird/not discussed in most sources about the bird. FunkMonk (talk) 12:42, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. Here is an image of the Rodrigues landscape in 2004; :File:Rodrigues Island, Mauritius-17May2004 (5).jpg. Snowman (talk) 12:49, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: We now have an image showing the bird and a background, made by the author of this paper: http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/08912963.2014.954569 FunkMonk (talk) 17:19, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Landscape 

message: Error on page:  "de Lozoya, A. V. (2003). "An unnoticed painting of a white Dodo". Journal of the History of Collections 15 (2): 201–210. doi:10.1093/jhc/15.2.201. Harv error: There is no link pointing to this citation. The anchor is named CITEREFde_Lozoya2003. edit" and footnote 8: " Lozoya & Valledor 2003. Harv error: link from #CITEREFLozoyaValledor2003 doesn't point to any citation."  —Gaff ταλκ 23:44, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  There is a tool at User:Ucucha/HarvErrors to see these types of errors.  I found out about it here: Wikipedia:Help_desk#Citation_help.  There is still one broken link on this page, and several on the Dodo page.  I will fix them when I have a chance.  —Gaff ταλκ 17:05, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I find this citation style a bit confusing, and prefer the one used on for example hoopoe starling, much simpler to use and maintain. I'd even prefer if the style here and on dodo was changed back to that... FunkMonk (talk) 17:11, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fixed on this page, will fix dodo later. Funny: I changed the citation style on the gopher article to match this page and the dodo, because I thought it was your preference & I'm still learning how to write good articles... —Gaff ταλκ 17:22, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Heheh, I'd say the one used here looks better, but to me, when writing long articles, practicality comes first... The "new" style was added by a user who is now blocked, so it has been a pain to maintain it.... FunkMonk (talk) 17:30, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Morbid curiosity: which editor and why blocked —Gaff ταλκ 17:41, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I wasn't involved, and don't really know what happened, but I guess this can give some kind of idea: FunkMonk (talk) 17:45, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken citation link 

message: This illustration was added by , and though I appreciate the effort, the image is so pixelated as to be useless (what does it add?), especially since we already have two illustrations of higher quality. Furthermore, the image shows blue and green parts, which does not match the historical descriptions (saying it was grey and brown), a result of seemingly being derived from a photo of the Nicobar pigeon. But I am willing to discuss this, and hope others will add their opinions. FunkMonk (talk) 00:57, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pixelated illustration