Talk:Rammstein/Archive 2

message: can someone please tell me if they are neo-nazis or not? cuz there are a lot of rumors about it.. and they have a song called HITLER.. so someone tell me..
:They have a song called Hitler? I don't have their first two albums, but I can't recall a song with that title... anyway, no, they are not Nazi's in the slightest - just because they are German, many people ignorantly assume they are so. Infact, I heard that the band are extremely oppossed to Nazism. ≈ The Haunted Angel 23:30, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No they do not have a song called Hitler. Its not a part of any of the albums (as I have all of them). Also, as Haunted Angel said, Rammstein is totally opposed to Nazism. I read that in one of Till's interviews (I think I can dig it up if u want me to corroborate this). edit: Ok u mite wanna chk this out: --202.78.236.128 10:42, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

text: They are the opposite of nazis, they provoke. TheWizard 10:53, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Here are two citations taken from the German Wiki article  that should clarify the band's position. In 2001 the band wrote the song 'Links 2-3-4' in order to, in the words of keyboarder Flake Lorenz, "do away with the prejudice". He says: "We march, but we're left (wing), absolutely clearly fervently left." On another occasion (interview in the journal Stern) singer Till Lindemann deplores racist violence and argues that enough isn't done to bring the perpetrators to justice. These two examples should substantiate the point tht Rammstein aren't Nazis. --:Simha 05:24, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ARE THEY NAZIS? 

message: Alright is it true that some of the band's songs translate into lyrics like "I'm going to cut open your fetus, and eat your baby" ? Or other horrific lyrics? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dragong4 (talk • contribs) .
Herzeleid.com has complete lyric translations. Although some lyrics may be offensive to some people, its just music, and if you dont like it, dont listen to it. Mein Teil translates to "My Part" which is slang for my penis, as posted below the song is about the cannibal that was in the papers a couple of years ago, and on German released singles actually has Till reciting an ad that the bloke put in a newspaper - „Suche gut gebauten 18-30 jährigen zum Schlachten“ Der Metzgermeister or - “Looking for a well-built 18 to 30-year-old to be slaughtered” The Master Butcher. Also, by Flake's admission, he has never officially described himself as part of the band, he "Just plays with them", although i think the vast majority of fans would consider him official.
Squad'nLeedah 19:30, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No. --Bjarki 20:47, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just have to confirm the above NO.... These people play heavy metal but their lyrics aren't devil worshiping, uber-evil or stuff like that... Check out the lyrics on Hezeleid.com and see for yourself  - Manwe 23:21, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know none of the lyrics translate to anything like this, There are people who despise rammstein and seek to soil their reputation and spread these rumours. A couple of Rammsteins songs do have slightly disturbing conotations, such as Mein Teil which is about the canabal who roamed germany a few years ago, but nothing about the band acctually taking part in suck practices. I agree with Manwe that you should just go read the lyrics on hezeleid.com - Faded_Mantis 09:18, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

text: The site is www.herzeleid.com, named after their first album. And the cannibal didn't roam Germany, IIRC he only ate "a part" of one man. Hence the title of the song Mein Teil => My part. You're right that other songs have unsavory concepts e.g "Stein um Stein" is about entombing a person alive, "Tier" is about incest, and most of their first album is pretty extreme. But their songs cover many topics, and I agree that there are people spreading untruths about the lyrics. Just go to herzeleid.com and/or get yourself a German-English dictionary. Imroy 11:57, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if Rammstein were to do a song about eating babies, which nowadays they wouldn't do anymore because they aren't quite so "extreme" anymore, they wouldn't do it like that, but in a more poetic way, more alluding to the practice of eating babies than actually saying it bluntly. And trust me, there is no such song. --NorkNork 16:37, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They were extreme to begin with? --panasonicyouth99 9:55, 08 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, compared to now, they were more extreme back then, in lyrical content as wlel as in music. --NorkNork Questions? fnord? 23:00, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Rammstein - Kokain" => "seh ich dabei zu wie ich gebäre // und fress die eigne Nachgeburt" "I see how I bear // and eat the own afterbirth/placenta". I hope that I've translatet well. --Athalis 08:17, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have read through the complete lyrics of the piece "Kokain". The text is about a cocaine addict, cocaine is described as a "Weiße Fee" (White Fairy) who impregnates the addict. He (metaphorically) gives birth to a child and eats the afterbirth. This is obviously a metaphor about the pleasures and pains of addiction, the text says the addict resisted the impregnation. --NorkNork Questions? fnord? 12:52, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Haha, Zwitter's lyrics are... well, fantastic. Then again, I've found most of the Mutter album is a bit twisted, lyric-wise. ≈ The Haunted Angel 17:47, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baby eaters? 

message: The Russian authorities claimed that the hostage-takers had "listened to German hard rock group Rammstein on personal stereos during the siege to keep themselves edgy and fired up."
I recall reading in the original article that the Chechans listened to "German hard rock on personal stereos during the siege to keep themselves edgy and fired up" but I do not remember an actually citation of Rammstein. Maybe someone sould look into this.
:It was specifically cited in the Independent article of 18 October 2004, which is referenced in our Rammstein article. -- ChrisO 00:30, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And having to listen to Shannon Noll makes me want to murder Aussie Idol wannabe's but that aint his fault, and therefore not relevant to him or any article about him. Squad'nLeedah 19:38, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Belsan 

message: *FeardotCom 	"Sonne"
*How High 	"Du hast"
*Wing Commander 	"Eifersucht"
*See No Evil 	"Mein Teil"
are not listed on the official site of Rammstein. Please quote the source for these o else there must be ommited. Vivek 10:26, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soundtrack Listing 

message: Some clown changed the name to rammass throughout so I have spent the last 10 mins fixing. I swear I will kill that guy for wasting my time if I find out who he is.
:If you click the history tab at the top of the article, you can do a revert. Just click on a previous version of the page (click on a date), then click edit and save. See Help:Reverting. ~MDD4696 22:46, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rammass 

message: Doesn't the following section belong under lyrics rather than style?
::Despite Rammstein's brutalist image, many of its songs lyrics demonstrate a certain sense of humour. "Zwitter", for example, is a bizarre take on narcissism (and bisexuality) through the persona of a hermaphrodite:
::Wenn die anderen Mädchen suchten (When the others searched for girls) 
Konnt ich mich schon selbst befruchten (I could already fertilize myself) 
Similarly, the song "Amerika" features a tongue-in-cheek chorus:
::We're all living in Amerika 
Amerika ist wunderbar (America is wonderful) 
We're all living in Amerika 
Coca-Cola, Wonderbra! (for one chorus, this is replaced by "Coca-Cola, sometimes war") 
Some of their songs show unexpected influences. "Dalai Lama" is an adaptation of the  famous poem Der Erlkönig by Johann Wolfgang von Goethe. "Hilf mir" was inspired    by the short story "Die gar traurige Geschichte mit dem Feuerzeug" (from "Der Struwwelpeter") by Heinrich Hoffmann. "Rosenrot" is inspired upon the poem "Heidenröslein" by Goethe and the story "Schneeweißchen und Rosenrot"
''
Sabbre 23:00, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lyrics

message: Could people please stop changing the section on lyrics relating to the lyrics of Mein Teil? Please read the entire lyrics. Then you'll find that, in the last chorus, the line "Yes it's mein Teil – nein" is sung.  Thank you. 
Sabbre 16:22, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Are those official? Because in the CD booklet that line is just not printed at all...I agree that it does say "Yes it's Mein Teil" but the booklet doesn't include the line at all. --NorkNork Questions? fnord? 16:29, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I can't be sure, as I don't have a copy of the booklet. But it is a very high quality site, and all the other lyrics seem to be correct. All these sites have the same version: ,  ,. Sabbre 20:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have the original booklet, and as I said, there the line is just ommitted completely. But if several sources support it, it seems to be accurate. --NorkNork Questions? fnord? 14:29, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just let "It's mein Teil", even though their are no proofs at all (in fact, the german word "Jetzt", which means "now" is very similar pronounced as "Yes" - but on the other hand, Amerika from the same album has great focus on english words, and even most of the german fan base consider it "Yes it's mein Teil").
"Ja das ist mein teil, NEIN" (Yes that is my part, NO!" is what screams out at me at the end of it. Try turning up your CD players! :) Squad'nLeedah 19:44, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mein Teil

message: Hey it's cool that the page keeps getting updated, but the new feature up top doesn't seem representative of the band. More of a joke than their usual appearance. -Iopq 08:56, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New picture 

message: Would http://www.oomph-supernova.com/band/history/ this qualify as a citation for Rammstein saying they were heavily inspired by Oomph!? Oomph Supernova is a rather reliable fansite for Oomph! and he's a few interviews with Oomph!, so I'd imagine it'd be accurate Stormscape 11:15, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  citation 

message: There quite a few differences of opinion on what genre of music Rammstein is — unsuprisingly considering the subjective nature of the nuanses of musical styles.  While I agree with Bloodofox's comment that Rammstein should more correctly be called Industrial Metal rather than classified by the broader Industrial Music, the correction that was made was to a sentance listing the elements of music incorporated into Rammstein's Tanz-Metall. Since Industrial Metal combines elements of Industrial and Heavy metal music, this brief list should include either Industrial Metal, or Industrial and Heavy Metal, but not Industrial Metal and Heavy metal as this would be redundant.  Personaly I feel that including Industrial and Electronic music in the elements list is also equaly redundant, but every time I remove it it gets added back again. So it goes.
The elements list could easily be pared all the way down to just saying that Tanz-Metall is a form of Industrial Metal and be done with it, but that might not be quite as informative—Asatruer 19:45, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You would be extremely hard pressed to find anyone who would describe Rammstein has anything more than 'industrial rock' or 'industrial metal.' It's misleading to equate Rammstein to an unrelated musical movement. With what you've said in mind, I'll see what I can do with the current state of it. :bloodofox: 19:52, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I've simply deleted the "metal" portion and put in "Industrial metal" instead since it's a more applicable descriptor anyway. :bloodofox: 19:54, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Genre/Music style and elements

message: I found a song that's called Rammstein - Hitler on the Internet. When I listened to it, it turned out to be a badly voiced over version of Sonne, made to, I believe, insult Rammstein by making them out to be Nazis.
The first line goes:
Hitler, Himmler, Rudolf, Auschwitz, Munham (I couldn't make this word out), Stuttgart, Goebbels, Furhen (I'm not sure about this one either), Yuren (nor this), (the last word was incomprehensible)
The song then goes on to spout Nazi propaganda.
My question is, has anyone else found songs claiming to be Rammstein, but turning out to be someone else or a joke aimed at Rammstein? And if so, should we add it to the wiki?
Also, is it legal for me to add the song in question to the wiki?
--80.186.5.12 16:57, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I seem to remember such tracks being mentioned in the "covers" section, as basically falsely-attributed covers. But that information seems to have been removed. Can anyone explain why it was removed (or am I mis-remembering things)? Imroy 18:42, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are a lot of songs claiming to be Rammstein's, and I guess those are too many to have a place in the article. However, I think "Hitler" is the only cover of a Rammstein's song, all the other songs are by other famous bands or artists, and I don't think we can catalogue all of them. Actually, as "Hitler" is a special one, we probably could write something about it in the article, just to tell the non-fans Rammstein is NOT a neo-nazi band. What's more, the first "sentence" in the false song is "Hitler, Himmler, Rudolf, Ausschwitz, München, Stuttgart, Göbbels, Führer, Yuri, Berlin", so it's not very clever as you can see... --Dark Jin 10:49, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not clever? I say it's pathetic and childish.—♦♦ SʘʘTHING(Я) 07:24, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I agree, actually. But the point is : do we write something about it? I don't think I can, because of my crappy English... --Dark Jin 08:42, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

text: The opening song for Final Fantasy X, the "Zanarkand blitzball" song, is claimed to be Rammstein on various P2P servers, but it really doesnt sound like them at all. The "Hitler" song is often "Böse", just renamed. Jilenoftherazgriz 05:24, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps we could add it to the Controversies section? --80.186.5.12 18:03, 30 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't really think this is notable enough to be included in the article, most p2p systems are full of junk like this. What makes this particular song so special? --Bjarki 21:17, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably not, but it does exemplify the reasons for writing Links-2-3-4.  On balance I don't think it's a good idea to mention any specific examples.  I'm tempted to cite WP:BEANS.  Mention it and people will go hunting, and it might encourage more cruft.  Cain Mosni 23:33, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Theres a song called "Barbie Girl" by Aqua Boy thats often incorrectly labeled as "Barbie" by Rammstein. Its a very confusing story, maybe you should mention it somewhere in the article? It would be a better example than the Hitler song, since this is more of a joke than an attempt to discredit them.--134.241.44.152 14:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I was going to begin a new conversation, but this would appear the best place for my question.  Anyway, I keep turning up a remix of "Sonne" on LimeWire P2P searches.  The song is called "Sonne (DJ's Hardcore Underground Mix feat. Marilyn Manson)." While this song is quite good, dare I say better than the original, Marilyn Manson does not appear on the track, at least not on vocals.  I've tried Googling the track and searching for an album featuring the song, but I only turn up a few MySpace blogs and other stuff with people talking about how much they like it.  So I'm wondering if this is an actual remix, or just an already existing mix renamed by some smartarse (I haven't heard the "Clawfinger K.O." and "Clawfinger T.K.O." mixes).  Anybody got an album featuring this song or is it a fake? Gamer Junkie 04:51, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: False Rammstein songs

message: Simulated sodomy and a dildo squirting liquor up to about four meters over the crowd (during the song Bück dich);
is it liquor or liquid that is sprayed as one is alcohol and the other is some fluid of unknown quality.
: Should probably be liquid. -Iopq 00:09, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: At the UK shows in 2001 it was diluted Pernod or similar...  Cain Mosni 11:16, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I stand corrected. -Iopq 03:30, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  under the "Shows" heading 

message: Does anyone agree with me when I say that a REMIX isn't the same as a cover? Because if so, the Pet Shop Boys should be mentioned else where on the page. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dyllholio (talk • contribs) .
:A remix is not the same as a cover, true. - BalthCat 04:38, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pet Shop Boys

message: I am not sure how much information in the Rammstein article has come from this source, but it is likely incorrect.
The first section (concerning "possessed computers") is from Weekly World News.  There are also various links to TheOnion.com.
No idea how anybody believed this BS in the first place...—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.68.141.212 (talk • contribs) .
:That article simply states "Quite a range of root causes of the Columbine tragedy were proposed:". It doesn't say that any of them are correct, just that religious sources offered them as explainations for the Columbine massacre. It doesn't argue the claims, although it does offer some info on Rammstein, possibly because many Americans still don't know much about them. That list is just amazing. I didn't know people still believed in such superstitions. "Any PC built after 1985 has the storage capacity to house an evil spirit."! --Imroy 21:19, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The reference being used doesn't mean the article uses much of the content, or that they're believable.  Click the ^ beside any reference to see what sentence it is referring to.  It's simply a reference to show the nature of some of the criticism.  Right or wrong, they said it, so it was referenced. -  BalthCat 03:19, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ref 7 ( WHY DID THE COLUMBINE SHOOTING HAPPEN? COMMENTS FROM RELIGIOUS SOURCES. ) is a joke. 

message: Why doesn't this article have a history section like other bands' articles? The information about their history is currently spread around the whole article. It would be better to have a history section organized chronologically.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Oagersnap (talk • contribs) 12:08, 2006 November 8  (UTC)
:Thank you for your suggestion! When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes.  Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the  link at the top. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to).  The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills.  New contributors are always welcome.—Asatruer— 19:51, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History Section 

message: Hey, in the song Amerika, in the mentioned part above, rammstein is making a reference to Paris Hilton, right?
:No, that's a reference to EuroDisneyland. --NorkNork Questions? fnord? 13:07, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That line translates to "and in Paris stands Mickey Mouse".  CardinalFangZERO 01:59, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's rather more "and Mickey Mouse is standing outside of Paris", slightly suggesting, I'd say, 'M.M. ante portas' "M.M. at the gates of Paris".--Simha 09:33, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Und vor Paris steht mickey Maus 

message: Hi,
I just made a change concerning the discussion of the lyrics to "Du Hast". 
It was statet that "Willst Du bis zum Tod der Scheide (...)" tanslates to "Will you, till the death of the vagina (...)". 
Although this translation is correct considering the lyrics as were posted here, the correct lyrics of this part are "Willst Du, bis zum Tod, der scheide, (...)".
This is also part of traditional German marriage vows and simply means "Will you, till the death, that seperates, (...)". There is nothing Rammstein has altered, although it may seem odd to even some German audiences as it - being a traditional vow and all - the usage of the word "scheide" for "(to) separate" is rather old-fashioned and rare in the German language nowadays. By the way, so I would say is "Scheide" for "vagina".
The source for this was probably , but even there the comma was still intact, as is in the CD-booklet.
Of course, "Du hast" is a play on German vows, but in my opinion, no German-speaking person would interpret the lyrics as "Tod der Scheide", especially as singer Till Lindemann often uses old-fashioned and out-dated vocabulary and the vows are very well-established, and it is also the first time I read such an interpretation. 
I am a native German speaker, and I really do not want to make fun of anybody, but when I told my friends of this, they all broke out in laughter.
 
I hope you see my point.
Btw, next time, I'll start the discussion first, then delete. Sorry, I'm new here ;-).
Dontimo 11:12, November 18 2006 (UTC)
Thx, now it is better ;-)
Not everyone that listens to Rammstein is German. Rammstein knows this, they have a lot of lyrics that can be interpreted many ways, its why their music is so damn good. That one is well known for having multiple meanings depending on how you listen to it. English example -
"Helping your uncle, jack off a horse" and "Helping your uncle Jack, off a horse" and im damn sure if i put that in a song id have a wikipedia edit war over what THATS meant to mean and where the comma is. Squad'nLeedah 20:04, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''Lyrics: Du Hast''' 

message: Was it realy necicery to arrest them?
The arrest wasn't during that performance...It was in Worcester on 1998-09-23 during the FV 98 tour I think. And no, I don't think it was necessary to arrest them :P
Sorry next time ill be more specific eh? But back to the subject, If it wasent in berlin but in the U.S.A the freedom of speech would have been in violation and against constitutional rights.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bryton (talk • contribs) 09:45, December 6, 2006
:I'm sorry - what does this have to do with the Rammstein Wikipedia article?  --ElKevbo 15:30, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bück dich live in Berlin '98 

message: ive been watching slowly and rammstein is makeing it to amarica in music stores to 
music videos and buck dish is playing on the radio so thats showing that they are herd but not known well you will hear the music but not media in this country much. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by tridentdc24
You're just now noticing that Rammstein is making it to America? I was able to purchase both Sehnsucht and Herzeleid in Best Buy when I started listening to the band back in 1997. Alabasterchinchilla 20:36, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't use Wikipedia as a brag-blog. Thanks. Somnabot 23:23, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  rammstein is it getting popular in the US? 

message: I think the subsection "The band" is pretty pointless. Isn't the whole article about the band? Couldn't someone change it to a history section? I can't do it myself, because I don't know enogh about their history, but surely someone here would be able to do it? --Oagersnap 17:30, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pointless section 

message: Excuse me, that notes about Beslan and Rammstein music is ABSOLUTE bullshit. Chechen terrorist inspired by German band? What idiot can believe that?
:It's not so much about the lyrics, but about the aggressiveness of the music and the singer's voice. --NorkNork Questions? fnord? 19:24, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beslan and Rammstein 

message: If you listen to the song and read the lyrics at the same time, sie sind gottlos either works as "They were godless" or "They were god(cue drum fill)los" Los being the name of the song and the one word chorus. The other claim that it could mean They got rid of god makes no sense as the rest of the song is written in a completely different way. the claim that the first and third ways of translating it on the main page make no sense is false (they make perfect sense to me). and with the rest of the song in context, "They got rid of god" is in fact the only line that makes no sense, and also flies in the face of all current accepted ways of translating this song. Remember, in music, you can say a lot of things that make no sense "Who put the bup, in the bup shoo bup shoo bup?" as long as its still in some context with what comes before and after it. "Who put the ram in the ramalamadingdong?" Squad'nLeedah 20:24, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand what you're saying. --Oagersnap 23:13, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Perfect explanation :) Jmlk17 19:02, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Los. 

message: I don't know were it would fit nice in the article, but Rammstein had a minor planet named after them in 2006: http://www.cfa.harvard.edu/iau/special/rocknroll/0110393.html
// s4ndp4pper 20:42, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  (Minor) planet named after Rammstein 

message: Okay, I REALLY think the picture at the top of the page is a misrepresentation of what the band really looks like. It was just a joke outfit that they wore for a couple of pictures and for promoting Amerika (I think?). I've had this picture for a while, and I've gotten it from a friend before that. http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/3871/ram79bn.jpg . I think it's a bit more of an accurate picture of what the band's usual image right now.Flubbernugget 00:26, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New band picture(s)... 

message: Last time I checked Rammstein was formed in the early 1990s, so why would someone be careless enough to tell the rest of the world that Rammstein was formed in 1972? What really pisses me off is that your fellow wikipedians would corrupt and contaminate this mantle of knowledge with lies and fallacies for thier own perverted entertainment. Please, I enjoy browsing wikipedia and and I'm sure countless numbers of other people enjoy it as well. Please keep wikipedia pure and accurate for the rest of us.
70.79.41.203 18:38, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rammstein formed in 1972? 

message: I will make this clear again; it isn't a RAMMSTEIN song.
:So change it, stop whining. Nickoladze 04:45, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Schtiel 

message: I have recently been seeing tons of vandalism lately, at least two attacks a day if not way more. Anybody with ideas? Anyone thinks this should be protected? Tazz 18:08, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Vandalism

message: I've fixed a lot of the citations to make them comply with Wikipedia format regs but I'm not sure if I should get rid of the "lack references/citations" disclaimer at the top of the page. Anybody else have any thoughts on it?
Leopold III 13:48, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: I'm not moaning or b*tching but to me this article is really in need of a good clean up, i mean it just looks un-organised and very messy. I am a huge fan of rammstein and would love to see this page put right, anyone up for it or would everyone be happy if i took up the task??? let me know what you guys and gals think. Cryo enix 22:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have any ideas I'd be more then happy to help out - I'll also take a look through the article, if there's anything I see could be improved I will do so. ≈ The Haunted Angel 22:28, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well i do have a few ideas, like the soundtrack and film features could be moved to the discography section, and the band's history seems to be scattered around the article a bit randomly, most of it could be incorperated into one section under band history. Just throwing those ideas out there. Cryo enix 15:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The general theme of articles is to include such film appearances in the Discography section - moved. The rearrangement of the band history is something I will help get round to when I have more time. ≈ The Haunted Angel 16:48, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tidiness of Article

message: You think this needs to be an entirely new article by itself? It seems a little untidy to me... And Rammstein shows deserve an article on it's own, considering they are one of the best live bands of the time. It would be cool to just have a little paragraph outlining the use of pyros etc... and then just have a link for a main article.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Caboose90 (talk • contribs) 23:47, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I dunno, I just don't see an article on their live shows lasting that long. I mean, Kiss had pretty out-of-the-ordinary live shows, but does that have it's own article (I'm actually asking, because I don't know if they do, lol)? But even so, I don't see what else you could really add to make it warrant it's own article. If you can find something good though, I will support the article. Until then, I'm a little skeptic. ≈ The Haunted Angel 08:12, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt the article would last very long at all, if it wasn't even DB-deleted.  I personally just don't think that their live shows warrant anything other than a section on their main article page. Jmlk17 20:51, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Aye, I agree as well, I just don't think it would last long plus would be a waste of time cause I think it will just end up being a worthless stub that could just go under their main artcle. Tazz 16:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Shows' section 

message: Can anyone possibly confirm this: "Rammstein rarely uses the 12K, 14K, and 16K equalization filter (equalizer) channels in their music." It is included in the Trivia section, and I have no idea how anyone can possibly confirm this - I've been a sound tech (recording and live) for the better part of the last 10 years and I've never heard of any band just 'not using' ceratin frequencies, because it is impossible! So to whoever put it up there, either confirm, clarify or otherwise remove this statement as it makes no sense as it is written, and as I don't know the material you got this information from I can't do it for you. What do you mean by 'equalisation filter channels'? The individual faders on a graphic eq? Or do they just cut the entire sound out at those freqs? Please, please clarify. ABVS1936 04:33, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's hardly trivia anyway - go ahead an remove it. ≈ The Haunted Angel 11:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks, I removed the whole Trivia section as it didn't really add anything of substance to the article and was as such unreferenced. If someone can verify anything that was in the section and incorporate it into the main article then feel free. Cheers, ABVS1936 17:19, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Equalisation?