Talk:Wild man

message: Has anyone considered that the "Green Men" prevalent in English mediaeval church carvings migh be representations of woodwoses?--APRCooper 19:07, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. see the second paragraph of this article. --Wetman 07:08, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Green Men 

message: A British example can be found on the coat-of-arms used as the pub sign for the Woodhouse Arms in Corby Glen, Lincolnshire.
This pub subsequently had its name changed (to "The Coachman"). SiGarb | Talk 22:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of out-of-date information 

message: Johnbod 03:06, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  French Bal des Ardents link seems dead 

message: is there a case for a the alternative spellings to be listed so that all find there way to Woodwose. My spelling (and used quite a bit in Suffolk) (as in Haverhill Wodewose) is Wodewose and others are listed. I originally searched under wodewose and found nothing. --Edmund Patrick 18:17, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made a redirect from Wodewose, using the click-on form in the Wiki marksup list that appears when you are in "Edit" mode. No reader left behind. --Wetman 22:55, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  alternative spelling wodewose 

message: I removed this from the article, as it provides no sources for some pretty speculative statements. (I've substituted a more substantiated, but still flawed version):
::Another variant of the Gaulish Dusi may lurk in the misunderstanding resulting in the fauni ficarii of Jerome's Vulgate translation of Jeremiah 50:39, describing the coming desolation of Babylon: in the Douay-Rheims Bible the Vulgate is rendered, "Therefore shall dragons dwell there with the fig fauns." "Fig fauns" exist nowhere except in dictionaries mentioning this passage,Isidore of Seville does not give his source when he states in Etymologiae xi.3.22, "Certain creatures are said to be people of the woods, called by some fauni ficarii, fig fauns" (Priscilla Throop, Isidore of Seville's Etymologies: Complete English Translation, Volume 2, 2006). which receives the footnote "Monsters of the desert, or demons in monstrous shapes: such as the ancients called fauns and satyrs; and as they imagined them to live upon wild figs, they called them fauni ficarii or fig fauns."  These fauni ficarii may simply be a slip of the copyists for an intended fauni Sicarii ("fauns of the Sicari", the ancient tribe in Sicily)."Questa fiaba popolare non ha forse un certo riscontro coi Fauni Sicarii menzionati da Geremia nel Cap. L. v. 6-9 delle sue profezie," "Does not this popular fable have perhaps a certain connection with the fauni Sicarii mentioned by Jeremiah in Chapter 50, verse 6-9", noted Giuseppe Bianca, making the correction in passing, in "Appunti di botanica popolare Siciliana",  Rivista europea (1875, p. 494). Apparently, the King James Version committee thought so, rendering the passage "Therefore the wild beasts of the desert with the wild beasts of the islands shall dwell there, and the owls shall dwell therein: and it shall be no more inhabited for ever; neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation." http://bibletools.org/index.cfm/fuseaction/Def.show/RTD/ISBE/ID/9185/Wild-Beast.htm  No modern English translation of the Bible mentions dragons or fauns in this passage,Jeremiah 50:39 Parallel translations  and Joseph Bosworth, A Dictionary of the Anglo-Saxon Language (London 1838) gives for Wudu-wasan the translations "'Gods of the woods, satyrs, robbers; satyrii, fauni sicarii". 
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A few further notes: the Sicilian tribe is named the Sicani, not the Sicarii, here on Wikipedia. This may be an onomastic issue, but the article makes no connection between the Sicani and the Gauls, and this source lists them as "unclassified" due to lack of evidence on their language. It does sound like an interesting theory, and I almost would have been content to leave it in, but for the issues I just named. If it goes back in all that will have to be sourced to some reliable publication; the only one given (now located here) does not mention dusi and gives a totally diffent reason for rendering the phrase "beasts of the islands".--Cúchullain t/c 20:31, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I revised the passage, adding two references to "fauni Sicarii", but Cuchullain's point about Sicani is well taken. Let me insert the revised text above, and remove it again from the article.  Let's get the footnote on this point from the Anchor Jeremiah into this passage. I've added a reference to "fauni ficarii in Isidore of Seville. --Wetman (talk) 21:21, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Checking The Anchor would be good, they're certainly more authoritative than "bibletools.org". I'm certain that would clear up the confusion about the Sicani and the "wild beasts of the islands". One thing though - Bibletools says that "the King James Version referring to 'i, "island," renders "wild beasts of the islands..." from the original Hebrew 'iyim; it says nothing about Jerome or "fauni Sicarii". They clearly can't be used as a source for that statement.--Cúchullain t/c 21:43, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Fig Fauns"

message: I note that Der Busant and an image of it are used in German and Dutch versions of the article. Perhaps a mention here? — Crisco 1492 (talk) 01:18, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another image 

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message: Can anyone find a reliable source claiming that wild men originated from Hunter gatherers? Otherwise it looks like unreliable sources, speculation, and possibly synthesis. For instance: how can "fossil evidence" suggest that hunter gatherers lived in Europe 2000 years ago? Things don't fossil in that time, and if they did, there's no way fossils would tell us whether they came from hunter-gatherers. If no one can substantiate these claims, they should be removed.--Ermenrich (talk) 00:38, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hunter-Gatherers