Talk:Asteroids in fiction

message: 1) Niewiadowski, Andrzej; Smuszkiewicz, Antoni (1990). Leksykon polskiej literatury fantastycznonaukowej (in Polish). Wydawn. Poznańskie. ISBN 978-83-210-0892-9 mentions a short story by Polish writer Witold Perkowicz (no pl wiki article yet) in his short story "Posłanie z piątej planety" (no pl wiki article yet but there is one for the anthology with the same title it was published in: ). They discuss it briefly saying that the story contains a sf explanation of the formation of an asteroid belt in Solar System, and they use this work as one of the exmaples of sf work that try to posit a scientific hypothesis for various phenomena. Actually you can see this entry, partially attributed this time, at https://encyklopediafantastyki.pl/index.php?title=Powie%C5%9B%C4%87_hipotezy Note the second example related to Tunguska event  (:pl:Witold Zegalski has article, his short story not yet), which does not seem to be mentioned in our article yet? It probably should have its own paragraph. More recently in Polish sf, Tunguska event is part of the setting of Dukaj's Ice (Dukaj novel). Plenty of sources for Dukaj: . Note  which also helps with general context: "The Tunguska event of 1908 in central Siberia has provoked and inspired numerous theories"
2) anime: Knights of Sidonia //, Cowboy Bebop (in particular, episode 'Asteroid Blues' , see also sources ) and Asteroid in Love come to mind. The first one is set on a hollowed asteroid spaceship/colony. The second one features asteroids in various episodes as locations or navigational hazards. Third one, see plot. There is more but I don't think there are RS for stuff like https://gineipaedia.com/wiki/Category:Asteroids or https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/Palau / https://gundam.fandom.com/wiki/Axis , those may have to wait for SFE updates... --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:49, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The Tunguska event is something of a tricky one to fit in here, because it hardly gets a mention by sources on the topic of asteroids in fiction. It does get mentioned by a couple of sources that discuss both fact and fiction—in the fact part of the text, as background. When its appearance in fiction gets mentioned by sources on other topics, it is often revealed to have some other cause (aliens or whatever). There's also the question of whether this belongs on a page about asteroids in fiction, as opposed to meteors/meteoroids/meteorites in fiction (or comets in fiction, for that matter—some sources mention it in a cometary context). I don't think it's a good idea to try to cover asteroids and meteors/meteoroids/meteorites in the same article, because while the asteroid–meteoroid distinction is a sliding scale, the "shooting star" phenomenon is really a completely different subject (for the record, Brian Stableford's Science Fact and Science Fiction: An Encyclopedia has one entry for "Asteroid" on pp. 40–41 and another for "Meteorite" on pp. 301–303, while Gary Westfahl's Science Fiction Literature through History: An Encyclopedia has one entry for "Asteroids" on pp. 139–141 and another for "Comets and Meteoroids" on pp. 205–207). I'm inclined to think we should have an impact events in fiction article, which I might work on when I'm done with this article and could incorporate material from both this article and comets in fiction, as well as others. We do however have a Tunguska event in popular culture article (though it is absolutely terrible at present), which I have linked in the "See also" section for now. I have also watchlisted that article (and its redirect Tunguska event in fiction—I'm inclined to think it should be moved back there) and may work on it in the future. TompaDompa (talk) 12:16, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I have created an impact events in fiction article (currently, a stub). Feel free to add to it. TompaDompa (talk) 22:02, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

text: I'll take a look at the sources for globalizing later. TompaDompa (talk) 12:18, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, I have added Knights of Sidonia to the article as an example of converting asteroids into spacecraft. I think that will have to do for now. The explanation for the asteroid belt thing seems to be about the Phaëton hypothesis, which is well-covered in the article. TompaDompa (talk) 16:04, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Globalizing 

message: I recall some sources discussing how sf films and tv show unrealistically dense asteroid fields for stunning visuals and various plot points like navigating through asteroid fields (Star Trek, possibly The Expanse, Star Wars, etc.). Might be worth mentioning if we can locate those sources. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: See the "Navigational hazard" section. I'll see if I can find sources discussing the visual appeal aspect. TompaDompa (talk) 11:46, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unrealistic depiction in film/tv 

message: I know this is a pretty recent GA, and I'm not asking for any re-evaluation or anything, but is this many red links standard in an article? Typically those are removed or not used at all.  Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 13:32, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: On topics like this, yes. The gaps in our coverage of science fiction are unfortunately substantial. On the flip side, that means that there are a lot of potential articles to write for anyone interested in doing so. TompaDompa (talk) 13:46, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I see. I'm not too well associated with this project, so if this is standard, then that's fine, but I did just want to make sure in any case. Has one ever considered Magneton? Pokelego999 (talk) 01:45, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Links