Talk:Alan Kulwicki

message: Thought for possible inclusion in the article: Gerry died on February 8 2008. "That's a sad passing that not a lot of people will understand," said Kyle Petty. "Gerry was the last connection to Alan we had."  Royalbroil 17:25, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Gerry Kulwicki

message: I added the stat table after discussion with Royalboil.  I also did a quick skim of the article with thoughts of FA in the future.  Several items come to mind.
# The personal life section should be expanded if possible.
# In the 1980's section of the Winston Cup career, the statement: In 1985, Kulwicki sold most of his belongings (so that he could not change his mind),[23] including his short track racing equipment, to move halfway across the nation to the Charlotte area in North Carolina. It seems to me that the move was more north/south than across .. perhaps "moved over 3,000 miles" (or whatever the actual distance is" would be more descriptive.
Also, since I added the table, do we want to change any of the information around or sort?  Some of it is now redundant.  I didn't remove any of it, I'd rather get some feedback first. — Ched ~  (yes?)/© 20:13, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the redundant information. I was SOOOOO happy when I was able to convince someone to change the license on the flickr image to Creative Commons! The only allowed Creative Commons are Share Alike and Attribution. Non-commercial and No-derivatives are not allowed. Neither is "All Rights Reserved." So I convinced the person to change from All Rights Reserved to Attribution ShareAlike. I've been able to convince about 50% of people to change the license on an image. I make sure that I pick images where the person is active. Every once and a while I get an email from a person that I asked 6 months ago. That doesn't work very well! Royalbroil 23:08, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added stat table 

message: In the first paragraph, I think it is over worded with 'after'. Maybe 'followed' would be a better word to use for some sentences. Nascar1996  04:35, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
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message: I think that the Kulwicki Driver Development Program (KDDP) should be split into its own article. I started it as a section when it was in its first year, but now the KDDP has grown in content as it has been around for several years. How about it being a small section in the article with a hatnote, then listing the winners plus a few notable non-winners. Royalbroil 13:34, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  2020 article improvements 

message: I have given the page an extensive look over, searching for any possible improvement that could be made to the page. Here is the list of observations I made:
Lead section
* "arrived at NASCAR" closely paraphrases source three. Maybe "began racing in NASCAR" would be better?
* I think it should be noted for perspective that the 50 Greatest Drivers list was released in 1998
* The exact link to source number five does not source the perfectionist claim, but the "extended bio" of the Polish-American HOF does.
* The link to source 6 kicks me to a blank page. Hopefully there's an archived copy of the article somewhere.
Early life 
* Source 8 doesn't specifically say Greenfield, but I don't know if that's a major issue.
* Might want to make a perspective note that his mother died when Alan was in second grade since the time of his grandmother's death is mentioned.
Early racing career
* The link to source 12 is dead.
* Source 1 doesn't verify the information it is supposed to cite - maybe it's a misplaced citation?
* There could be concerns about whether the first two sentences in the second paragraph are outside the scope of the article.
* Source 13 should be swapped out for this link: https://web.archive.org/web/20080413183152/http://www.trpr.com/Alan/kulwicki.pdf
1980s
* Sources 21, 22, 29, 32, 35, 37 and 38 are dead links, maybe replace it with a Racing-Reference citation?
* The (Did Not Finish - DNF) part seems a bit redundant to me.
1990s
* Sources 39 and 42 are dead links much like the ones in the 1980s section
* Source 40 is a dead link; hopefully there's an archive of it somewhere
* 1990/1991 offseason seems a bit lacking on inline citations, even if they are just reusing other ones
1992 championship 
* Source 45 is a dead link that could be replaced with a Racing-Reference link
* Sources 48 and 49 are dead links
* The archive link for source 50 shows a blank page
* Merely personal opinion, but I think that the "championship honors" section is a bit small and should be eliminated as a subheading, it makes sense in the context of the season.
1993 championship
* I think the heading is a little misleading, casual readers could think that he won another title in 1993. Personally, I would change it to "1993 season" since it's still under the NASCAR section.
* 9th should be ninth according to whatever style guide I was taught in high school
Death
* Source 62 does not cite the Interstate 81/Blountville location
* Source 64 is a dead link, although it might be available on Newspapers.com
* Source 65 is a dead link
* Source 67 is a dead link, likely replaceable with source 59. I'd argue that the inclusion of that sentence is a tad redundant and could be swapped for one stating just how soon after the championship he died.
* Source 68 is a dead link
* I had trouble accessing sources 69, 70 and 71, I tried multiple times and the pages would not load in my browser.
Legacy
* I don't know if the map of the park falls in the appropriate external links usage.
* Some link between the Kulwicki scholarship and the opening of the motorsports program should be mentioned (in my opinion)
* Source 82 is a dead link
* Lowe's Motor Speedway should be changed to Charlotte Motor Speedway since the naming deal expired
* Source 90 is a dead link
* Might want to find a more current source than source 92, if not, I think it will be okay
* Source 93 is a dead link
* Last paragraph should be sourced just for the sake of avoiding any claims of "it's not true" or whatever
Development Program: I'm embarrassed to admit that I wasn't watching the page at the time that the note was posted here. I agree that the section is getting unruly, I don't know if it would reach GNG, in part because so much of what you see is actually just really good Tom Roberts PR material. Either way, I think it should be trimmed down to the just first paragraph. I can't think of a driver offhand that has advanced to another level singularly because of the KDDP; if that has happened, maybe a note about that would be good.
Overall, a lot of the issues are dead links that should be fairly easy to work around. It's very well-written with maybe two or three total grammatical errors. 
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thread_title:  2020 review 

message: This article has several uncited paragraphs. Is anyone willing to take a look and add citations for these?  as the GA nominator, would you be interested? If no one is interested, I think this should be nominated to WP:GAR. Z1720 (talk) 22:40, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA concerns