Talk:Flowchart

message: * Again in the "creating flowcharts" section, usage is made of the adjective "awesome", which looks to me as too personal an opinion to be in WikiPedia... More generally, the whole section seems a bit out of place, being more of a HowTo than an encyclopaedic article... -- nonick 12:25, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flowcharts "awesome" ?? 

message: I don't see the point in listing general-purpose drawing software in this article. The list should be restricted to tools that feature special support for flow charts. And how does Word fit in this list anyway? It's for text, not figures! I've removed OpenOffice.org Draw, Inkscape, and Dia from the list. --EnOreg 17:17, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about Graphviz? 217.169.15.243 (talk) 23:05, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What about it? The Graphviz article doesn't say anything about flowcharts. What support does Graphviz provide? --EnOreg (talk) 11:15, 12 June 2009 (UTC)

text: I re-added Dia (general-purpose diagramming software). Dia can be used to draw many different kinds of diagrams. It currently has special objects to help draw entity relationship diagrams, UML diagrams, flowcharts, network diagrams, and many other diagrams. It is also possible to add support for new shapes by writing simple XML files, using a subset of SVG to draw the shape. Basically its focus is flowcharts. --talk (talk)  10:00, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Most drawing programs have these features. How does that constitute a focus on flowcharts? General-purpose drawing-programs like Dia don't have a flowchart data-model that would enable them to perform flowchart-specific transformations. They don't "understand" flowcharts — they only "see" arbitrary shapes. The fact that some of these arbitrary shapes happen to look like flowchart elements doesn't seem a good enough reason to include them in an article on flowcharts. --EnOreg (talk) 11:19, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tools 

message: * In this edit two sections are copy/paste here from the Business Process Mapping article. -- Mdd (talk) 01:38, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy-paste registration 

message: I still think the article doesn't give a good overview of the different types of flowcharts. Several actions have been taken here:
* June 2008 this subject is already mentioned here ago, see here
* In July 2008 I started a Wikicommons gallery Flow chart gallery, which has been developed some more ever since.
* Wikicommons is also offering a gallery on Flow diagrams
* In Jan 2009 I added a section (see here) about the different types of flowcharts.
Despite these efforts I still think there is not a sufficient explanation about what types exist, their characteristics and their differences!? -- Mdd (talk) 13:11, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Types of flowcharts 

message: I restored the overview section (see here) which was removed some time ago here. That section seems like a good general introduction to me. -- Mdd (talk) 13:26, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overview section restored 

message: I've removed the text about the example showing a "loop and a half", because it doesn't!
The text was added over five years ago, but as far as I can tell the diagram hasn't changed.  
Loop and a half would describe an outer loop that allowed repeated factorial calculations, if the READ block needed to be duplicated.  This situation is shown here.
I actually came to this page after googling for a flowchart of a simple loop and the "loop and a half" comment just confused what was otherwise a straightforward example.
Zaq 42 (talk) 05:00, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed "loop and a half" 

message: In a nutshell this whole edit war 24.162.243.254 (talk) 16:54, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please have a look at Wikipedia:External links, which is a useful guideline. I just now clicked on the offered link and got a fairly uninformative page with some kind of edit window on it and nothing I could identify as a "flow chart maker". External links should be something that help explain the subject of the article, and should not be just pointers to some scratchpad that is only incidentally related. There would have been a slightly better arguement to keeping this link if it had pointed at a page that worked. This page doesn't even produce flow charts. Its utility to the article reader is non-existent.  --Wtshymanski (talk) 18:04, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's odd, it just worked for me. Are you using internet explorer? IE doesn't support svg. Perhaps you should complain to microsoft? Or perhaps try clicking on the "Save as png" link?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.210.244.67 (talk) 20:22, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Just worked for me too. Maybe the OP ought to calm down a bit though... 98.189.5.170 (talk) 22:14, 24 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why I'll never donate to wikipedia 

message: please see also http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Programmablaufplan
--77.25.105.57 (talk) 19:46, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess, we are more into ISO here. -- Mdd (talk) 23:55, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Using Flowchart in [[DIN]] 66001 is missing 

message: David Gries mentions flowcharts in his 1981 book The Science of Programming, but calls them "flaw charts", perhaps as a tongue-in-cheek way of expressing his dislike for them. (Bashing flowcharts and other 1960s-era programming styles was in vogue at the time, during the rise of structured programming.) I have never seen the term used anywhere else, or by anyone else, though. — Loadmaster (talk) 20:50, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flaw chart