Talk:List of state routes in Pennsylvania

message: This is the name given to 7xxx routes. Any idea what they are? Apparently they are used for toll roads - like most of the Turnpike is 7076 - but the only source for that is pahighways.com - nothing on PennDOT's site.
:Turnback: A program through which a state highway owned by PennDOT is given back to the local municipality for to maintence. Before a highway is turned back to a municipality, the Department improves it to the appropriate standard. --SPUI (T - C) 19:55, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "turned back, abandoned, or null routes"?

message: I find "A different number can also be used to avoid conflicts between different types.", followed by mention of I-380 and PA 380 (the latter is official SR 400).  There is also I-283 and PA 283 (the latter is official SR 300).  A list of these would be short, right?  I have questions about 3 other cases, one of which no longer exists at this writing:
PA 17 coming off US 11/15 (Perry County), and the PA 17 which became part of I-86.
US 422 exists in 2 pieces in Pennsylvania.
PA 29 exists in 2 pieces in Pennsylvania.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.52.3 (talk) 18:36, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  How about listing those Traffic routes whose number does not match the official State Route number? 

message: I've noticed that a large number of PA road articles reference URLs beginning with ftp://ftp.dot.state.pa.us/
These are all now broken due to the state getting rid of its FTP. Some have been replaced with archive copies, but current URLs can generally be fixed by simply changing to http://www.dot.state.pa.us/
Is there an efficient way to batch replace these links?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atds89 (talk • contribs) 04:22, 21 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken PennDOT FTP Links 

message: Much of this article, and a whole bunch of individual PA route articles, use an old PennDOT document as a reference for route lengths. See the current footnote #10 in this article. It looks like that PennDOT source has disappeared and a Wikipedia bot has modified the reference code to point to an irrelevant (for us) new site on construction diagrams. I can find no official current document in the sites for PennDOT or the PA government that offers information on particular route lengths, which in turn could be used to fix these now broken references. Can anyone think of any document that could be used? ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 21:58, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The PennDOT SLDs still exist, the URL just changed. The SLDs are here. Dough4872 23:44, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Please advise on how those documents can be used to find the beginning-to-end length of a numbered state route. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 18:01, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: You add up the length of the route in each county it passes through since the SLDs are by county. Some routes have concurrences with other routes in which the mileage of the concurrency is inventoried under the other route, so those need to be accounted for. Dough4872 18:16, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  PennDOT document has disappeared 

message: Isn't this route unsigned?  Should the note be updated to reflect it? Dnrothx (talk) 03:14, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody got to this until today. The person above is correct and "unsigned" has been noted with a citation from the route's main article. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS)  18:39, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  PA 299 

message: There are several entries in this list claiming a former route number that "clearly existed" via circumstantial evidence. See e.g PA 556 and PA 583 among others. I don't find this very convincing and recommend that such entries be removed, unless someone can come up with true evidence that those routes really existed and were signed as such. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS)  18:12, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: We cannot just assume a highway existed because it falls within a numbering scheme. It’s possible the state could have skipped around when assigning numbers. The best way to verify if a highway exists is through PennDOT maps (an archive of some of the maps is here) or other historical maps. There is also Jeff Kitsko’s Pennsylvania Highways website, however this is a WP:SPS and cannot be used as a source within articles. Dough4872 01:50, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I figured out who added those entries (User:Alexlatham96), with support from this website: , which also uses the phrase "clearly existed" without hard evidence. In my view, given the 1920s-30s numbering scheme, there is reason to speculate that such a route may have been proposed. But if there is no evidence that it was ever on a map or signed on the ground, then it did not exist beyond the gleam in a bureaucrat's eye and meant nothing to the outside world. That is all very far from "clearly existed". I again recommend that all such entries be removed as unsupported and unverifiable. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS)  02:07, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Unsourced, remove. Cards84664 03:02, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Remove this content. We should notify the creator of the site m-plex.com if they have an account here (they probably don't). Old numbers for the US Roads (like US 309 from Palmerton to Schnecksville, which was PA 429 according to the site, and US 422 from New Castle to the Ohio State line, which was PA 217 according to the site) may not show on maps. Alexlatham96 (talk) 04:38, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: What? It’s a dead website and notifying outside “sources” is not a part of what editors do. Cards84664 15:42, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Clearly Existed" 

message: *PA 217 (old)- hidden number for US 422 from New Castle to the Ohio state line?
*PA 355
*PA 362 (old)
*PA 424 (old)
*PA 429- hidden number for US 309 from Palmerton to Schnecksville?
*PA 455
*PA 456 (old)
*PA 462 (old)
*PA 524 (old)
*PA 556
*PA 583
*PA 656
*PA 822
*PA 870
*PA 874
*PA 878
*PA 887
*PA 907 (old)- hidden number for US 309 from Allentown to Center Valley, later part of 429?
*PA 912
*PA 939
*PA 947
*PA 983- documented route dates to 1930 and is out of place
*PA 988
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexlatham96 (talk • contribs) 1 July 2021 (UTC)
::I think most of those were covered in the previous discussion, as route numbers that may have been proposed. Some may also be urban legends, as I remember once seeing PA 887 on a misprinted map. Like in the last discussion, any route that never had an origin and destination does not need to be listed here just because it might have appeared in some bureaucratic paperwork many decades ago. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS)  13:30, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I missed the previous discussion, but the consensus seems to be clear.  If there isn't proof that a route exists, it has to go.  This is a basic tenet of the encyclopedia. –Fredddie™ 19:53, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Possibly missing numbers

message: The Morgantown Expressway spur (between PA 10/23 and I-176) is numbered Berks County QR 2089. I propose we remove this road. https://gis.penndot.gov/BPR_PDF_FILES/Maps/GHS/ROADNAMES/Berks_GHSN.pdf Jmpenzone (talk) 01:43, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove List of Unnumbered Road 

message: Pennsylvania Route 9 was the Northeast Extension of the Pennsylvania Turnpike from 1955-1996, now Interstate 476. Bill S. (talk) 12:40, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  PA 9 was the Northeast Extension