Talk:Stow–Munroe Falls High School

message: The salary data recently added into the article is not appropriate for this article because first, the data is about the district and not specifically the high school. There is an entire article about the Stow-Munroe Falls City School District where information that is directly relevant to the district should be. Information in this article should be directly related to the high school itself. Second, even if this were appropriate for this article, it would be placed within the body of the article, not the lead. The lead is a summary of the entire article, so it shouldn't have any info that isn't found elsewhere in the article. Finally, no, just because something can be sourced does not mean it belongs in an article. See WP:NOTEVERYTHING: "In any encyclopedia, information cannot be included solely for being true or useful. An encyclopedia article should not be a complete exposition of all possible details. Rather, an article is a summary of accepted knowledge regarding its subject. Verifiable and sourced statements should be treated with appropriate weight." Later, in WP:IINFO it states "As explained in the policy introduction, merely being true, or even verifiable, does not automatically make something suitable for inclusion in the encyclopedia." 
My suggestion would be to create a "Budget" section in the article on the district and place this info there. I would also recommend adding info on the total budget itself, like how much it is, where funding comes from, and what the main expenditures are. As it stands now, this only dwells on one aspect of the budget and thus, seems to be trying to make some kind of statement beyond just presenting facts. --JonRidinger (talk) 20:17, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on DontHideTruth's username, user page, user talk page, and  to SMFHS, this user may also have some issues w/ WP:NPOV.  Levdr1lp / talk 23:44, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Salary data 

message: In looking at the rivals section of the infobox and in the article, I can definitely see Falls, Hudson, and Roosevelt as rivals, but not Tallmadge. The source for Tallmadge is a single dead article that mentions them as a "backyard rival" for a boys soccer game. That's a fairly typical statement for schools that are nearby like Stow and Tallmadge are, but doesn't necessarily mean there's an established rivalry. It's often along the same lines as calling a team a "division rival" or "league rival" (for instance, an article on Stow's own athletics site mentions "division rival Twinsburg"). It certainly isn't anything on the level of Falls, Hudson, or Roosevelt as Stow and Tallmadge don't regularly play each other in any sports (they are not scheduled to play even in boys soccer this fall). Of the other 3 schools listed as rivals, Falls and Hudson are obviously in the same league, while Roosevelt has a history with Stow and they still regularly play each other in several sports. --JonRidinger (talk) 20:57, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The dead-link "backyard rival" source is for boys basketball, not boys soccer (see archived version here).  And the difference between Stow/C-Falls and Stow/Huson-or-Kent dwarfs any difference between Stow/Huson-or-Kent and Stow/Tallmadge.  In other words, neither Huson nor Kent is on par w/ C-Falls, and they are less on par w/ C-Falls than w/ Tallmadge.  There is decades of coverage in both the Beacon Journal and the Sentry, among other sources, verifying that Stow's first and most notable rival is C-Falls.  That said, I agree that the Tallmadge "rivalry" seems to reflect Stow's proximity more than anything else, and relevant coverage is light.  If we're going to change things, I say remove all but CFHS from infobox, and note CFHS, Hudson, and Kent in body -- w/ emphasis on CFHS rivalry.  Levdr1lp / talk 21:25, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, the point was that Tallmadge and Stow don't play each other in any sports on a regular basis, boys basketball included (they didn't play at all last season), so listing them as a rival isn't accurate. I would just drop Tallmadge from both the infobox and the body. Hudson and Roosevelt do have noted and established rivalries with Stow even if they aren't at the same level as Falls. In the body of the article, it's pretty clear that Falls is the #1 rival. On the Roosevelt article, it's clear Ravenna is Roosevelt's arch-rival, but the Stow rivalry is mentioned since it's fairly prominent, especially in football. Both are listed in the infobox. The infobox just says to list "rivals", so not necessarily the arch rival, but I wouldn't be opposed to just listing Falls in the infobox either. --JonRidinger (talk) 00:35, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess I'm okay w/ simply removing Tallmadge from both the body and infobox.  Hudson and Kent can stay in the infobox.  Levdr1lp / talk 13:51, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rivals 

message: The year for the name change to "Stow-Munroe Falls High School" (1991) is from the yearbooks. The first yearbook to use "Stow-Munroe Falls High School" is the 1992 yearbook (1991-92 school year). There's no specific mention of the change in the yearbook; it's simply used for the first time on the inside title page. Every year before, the title page has "Stow High School". I'd certainly like to get a more definitive and specific source like a newspaper article, but for now, it's not a highly controversial fact, so I think the yearbook can stand as a source until something more detailed can be found. --JonRidinger (talk) 14:06, 26 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Name change

message: In alumni lists, the best practice I've seen based on WP:ALUMNI is to be as concise with details as possible for each listing since the article is about the school, not the people who went there. Basically, explain why they're notable. For professional athletes, the best use I've seen in school and city articles is to list their current league rather than their current team to avoid it becoming out of date so frequently. Even retired athletes, all that's important is that they played in a notable league (like the NFL or NBA), not a list of every team they may have played for. If readers want to know which teams, they can go to that article. --JonRidinger (talk) 05:08, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: This sounds reasonable, particularly since professional athletes often switch teams.  Levdr1lp / talk 23:16, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alumni list