Talk:Coat of arms of Spain

message: I added a section with the picture and explanation of the most important historical coats of arms of Spain. --Maurice27 19:42, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice work, and welcome to WP:HV.  I've reassessed the article as B-class. It looks very promising and the number and quality of images is good. Unfortunately, we have only a single reference. If you have the material at hand, please add more references, if at all possible as inline references. If you can find some free versions of historical depictions of this insignia it would be wonderful (I am aware that this is no easy task. I'm working on a similar article myself.) Just my thoughts. Valentinian T / C 20:03, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Given the Spanish Empire, I presume this insignia spawned a number of related arms throughout the empire. If you could find information on some of those, that would be great. A minor point is that I would personally avoid using the term "coat" alone as in "the coat of ..." but "the arms of ..." is more common. Articles on WP:HV also normally use the spelling "Coat of arms of ..." except in the first line of text. Valentinian T / C 20:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Hard to say, because that part of the article completely lacks sources.  Judging from the succession boxes on the Charles I article, Charles inherited Tyrol from Maximilian I, Holy Roman Emperor, not from Philip.  I also have an image (supposedly an authentic drawing from Charles's reign) that shows Granada on the point of the shield instead of the quarters.  Neither of these is a reliable source, but it's better than nothing.  -- I. Pankonin (t/c) 08:46, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Historical Spanish Coats of arms

message: I change PNG Format images to SVG Format, wrong position of the Flanders and Tyrol blazons in Philip V and Charles III Coats of arms in PNG Images, See  and  images of Coins and Reliefs in   and other versions of the Spanish lesser arms are in SVG Format
Buho09 (t) 18:19, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Change Historical Spanish Coats of arms

message: Piority for the official design for the Coat of arms, Check it at the sources. It's more important show the official arms, the quality of the image is also fine, SVG Format.
Gordon09 (t) 02:32, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not the official design, but it follows the official description. "Shield offices in Spain, Mazon version, the one that corresponds with the official description"
The superior version also follows this design:
Adelbrecht (talk) 14:26, 19 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Apart from the heraldic description in the royal decree of 1981 establishing the official design of the coat of arms of Spain (shape, color). The proposed design is not better than the official. Also following is incorrect Heard rules for using more than one shade of color for the same color and use color gradients, in addition to not meet any standards not those set by consensus..--Miguillen (talk) 15:41, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Design 

message: Corrections suggested by heraldic experts there were the shape of the inescutcheon and the size and design of the figures, I'm learning English so I can't write so well, please add this information in the note. Thanks (the file author)
--Heralder (talk) 13:50, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Who are the heraldic experts? this appears to be uncited WP:OR. Additionally, it does not belong in the infobox. Tinynanorobots (talk) 05:07, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Other corrections suggested by heraldic experts (File Author)

message: I agree, Piority for the official design for the Coat of arms, Check it at the sources. It's more important show the official arms, the quality of the image is also fine, SVG Format. User:Heralder 
Author of: 
File:Coat of Arms of Spain.svg|Coat of Arms of Spain (Acording Official Description but Unofficial Design)
File:Coat of Arms of Spain (corrections of heraldist requests) .svg|Coat of Arms of Spain (Right Heraldic Design)
--Heralder (talk) 16:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: while blazon trumps design, and that picture has a brighter color, and easy to see. Lets use that one, and move the proposed design to the bottom of the article, with a discussion of it. Tinynanorobots (talk) 00:05, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Tinynanorobots, here you have seen that the use of the official design is strongly recommended, please keep it in use Rastrojo (D•ES) 11:59, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand what you mean. Tinynanorobots (talk) 19:01, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The coat of arms of Spain is regulated by Royal Decree 2964/1981  Trasamundo (talk) 22:28, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The colors in the national coat of arms of Spain are specified in the Royal Decree 2267/1982 . However,  the consolidated regulations on flags and standards, guidons, insignias and badges published in electronic format on the site of the Official State Gazette  include a color image where it is possible to visualize how the coat of arms is supposed to look like. Clearly that does not correspond to the image shown in the Wikipedia article.179.208.240.220 (talk) 20:44, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Official design

message: Does the Spanish Coat of Arms have official pantone values? If it does then it is the only one that does. The source cited for the blazon quotes Spanish law, which does not list any pantone values. Similarly, different tones are used by different parts of the Spanish government(The King, the senate) and no source has been provided saying that one variation of gules or any tincture is more official than the another. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tinynanorobots (talk • contribs) 2011-10-02 19:37:02
:From the Spanish language WP I get reference to a Royal Decree 2267/1982, from september 3 (Real Decreto 2267/1982, de 3 de septiembre) - http://noticias.juridicas.com/base_datos/Admin/rd2267-1982.html - established official CIELAB and CIE-1931 colours for the coat of arms (escudo). No Pantone.
:The same colours are referenced at - http://www.spain-flag.eu/coat-of-arms.htm -  which also references the existence of official Pantone colour definition in the Institutional Image Handbook (Manual de Identidad Institucional). I do not know how reliable this source is.
:In a short search, there are official news, dating from 2007, that it will be created - http://www.lamoncloa.gob.es/serviciosdeprensa/notasprensa/mpr/_2007/ntpr20070813_logo.htm - but I could not find the document itself.
:In short, there seems to be a Pantone definition, but the sources are slim. - Nabla (talk) 09:38, 11 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on what I see here, the CIE colors are well sourced, the pantone less well sourced. It is unclear what this RFC asks. Hipocrite (talk) 13:42, 11 October 2011 (UTC)

text: Probably worth asking at the heraldry and vexillology project. Rich Farmbrough, 19:16, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have already answered with the sources on 4 October , as it can be read several paragraphs above. Trasamundo (talk) 18:59, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Coat of Arms of Spain 

message: 96.19.152.171 (talk) 03:59, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
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