Talk:Charles Robert Jenkins

message: 60 minutes interviewed him. From this volatile and thus useless link I found out that...
"They also assigned him a Korean Êwoman, with whom he was supposed to have sexÊ twice a month. "The leaders almost tell her when to do it, and I got in a big fight one time over it," recalls Jenkins.ÊÊ "I told [the leader], 'It's none of his business if I want sleep with her. She wants to sleep -- we sleep.' 'No -- two times a month'" He says he was severely punished for talking back. "That's the worst beating I ever got -- over that," he tells Pelley, showing a scar where he says his teeth came through his lower lip."
Also:
"When Jenkins finally stepped outside the North Korean culture after 40 years, he was most surprised to see women in the Army, limits on where you could smoke and black policemen. He had never heard of 60 MINUTES and thought Life magazine would be the place where he would tell his story."
Maybe somebody can figure out how to link to that; hopefully Google will cover it soon enough. It was titled:
U.S. ARMY DESERTER DESCRIBES 40 YEARS IN NORTH KOREA HELL
Thu Oct 20 2005 14:43:07 ET
This may do:
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2005/10/20/60minutes/main959455.shtml
AlbertCahalan 02:56, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: missing stuff

message: Dresnok, according to the article, was a fellow American captive.  How is it that he was responsible for post-production dubbing of the propaganda film, Nameless Heroes?  Needs clarity edit. Sugarbat (talk) 04:59, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw the documentary about Dresnok; I don't know who originally put this nonsense about Dresnok saying that Jenkins' performance in the movie was atrocious, needed dubbing, etc. Dresnok actually praises Jenkins' acting in Nameless heroes, even though he does not like the guy ! Jean-Jacques Georges (talk) 10:17, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: How was Dresnok involved in the movie?

message: Jenkins is described as having a "thick North Carolina accent" (discussing his teaching English to N Koreans). Changed this to read "thick Southern US accent". This is more accurate (there is no N.Carolina accent; NC has various accents by region) and corresponds more directly to the highlighted link of Southern US English...Engr105th (talk) 20:22, 12 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Jenkins' accent

message: "This interfered with the government's goal of teaching spies English so that they could pass as South Korean, and when the North Koreans realized this, he was fired from that job.[citation needed]". This is a very controversial and provocative claim, especially with citation. It should be removed or else strongly emphasised that it purely represents what Jenkins himself said. Bonzostar (talk) 20:00, 22 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversial

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thread_title: External links modified

message: Is the "People from Sado, Niigata" Category really appropriate here? He wasn't born or raised there, and only lived there for the last few years of his life.--Muzilon (talk) 09:34, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless there's a contrary codified consensus, I'd say yes: he explicitly chose to live the rest of his life there.  —  Fourthords | =Λ= | 02:02, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: "People from Sado, Niigata" category?

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message: The article states that Jenkins displays the North Carolina Service Ribbon.  While he may have earned it, he does not wear it in the photo accompanying the article.  Additionally, he could not wear it, as National Guard awards can not be worn by a Soldier in the Regular Army - which Jenkins was a member of. (IAW Army Regulation 670-1)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.218.113.113 (talk) 07:11, 8 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no reason for the article to say that, as it's not mentioned in any of the reliable sources.  However, a recent expansion to the article shows he was enlisted in the Army National Guard for some years before enlisting in the active-duty US Army.  —  Fourthords | =Λ= | 02:02, 28 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: North Carolina Service Ribbon

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thread_title: potential sources to mine

message: A new source and accompanying prose was added by , to which I made some tweaks.  Being undone once, I want to explain those edits yet again.  Firstly, NBC reported that it was Jenkins' intention to stay for one week (), not that he had done so; to say he did so original research.  Secondly, regarding the word usage of "returned" versus "visited": the former can suggest or imply an intention to stay, or that the US should be considered his home—neither of which is true, while the latter only communicates temporary travel with plans to return from whence he came [Japan], which is true.  Does anybody have any thoughts on this?  —  Fourthords | =Λ= | 21:32, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I said that he "returned to the United States for a week-long visit". Therefore we can get both sides of it. If so we can just say he "returned to the United states for a visit". Would that work? Flowerkiller1692 (talk) 21:36, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: And obviously he came from the United States; coming back after being gone for so long definitely counts as a "return" Flowerkiller1692 (talk) 21:38, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, linguistically it does apply here, but we want to be careful not to imply 'returning home' or 'returning to stay'.  —  Fourthords | =Λ= | 21:43, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

text:  If wordier, the latter is better for eschewing the week-long claims we can't verify with that source.  —  Fourthords | =Λ= | 21:43, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll remove the week-long portion then Flowerkiller1692 (talk) 21:58, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Jenkins in the US