Talk:Generational list of programming languages

message: In the languages that have descended from the BASIC branch of the tree, some of the entries are just BASIC dialects (eg. QBasic) rather than BASIC-derived languages like COMAL. Should we prune this tree from the BASIC branch and instead start a generational list of BASIC dialects? Ae-a 04:57, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the dialects are interesting. We should add more, such as Integer BASIC and Applesoft BASIC. Maybe there should be a way to denote that a language is a dialect.90.134.99.224 (talk) 13:58, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: BASIC is correctly listed under FORTRAN because their original purposes and syntax for mathematical calculations were similar.  But implementations have been typically radically different -- all early BASICs were interpreted; FORTRAN has always been compiled.  Fair enough; but Perl was originally writtent to combine the capabilities of ksh and awk, while adding some of Larry Wall's ideas (correct, it turns out) as to what would be useful.  Perl is apparently listed under C simply because it uses curly brackets to mark logical blocks of code, but this seems a rather shallow criterion.  Why not under BASIC, since both use $ as a variable marker (though BASIC only for strings, and it's a suffix) and both are interpreted?  This attempt to shoehorn computer languages into a strict genealogy tree seems strained and arbitrary in many respects.  (Why is Modula-2 an independent branch of ALGOL instead of a descendent of Pascal?  Is ADA related to Pascal or Modula?  etc. etc. etc.) -- Craig Goodrich 24.14.168.244 (talk) 00:36, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dialects of BASIC. 

message: Shouldn't Simula be listed under ALGOL 60? Kaldari 07:00, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simula and ALGOL 60 

message: IO recantly read that perl was derivided from pascal (was derived from ALGOL) but here its listed as a from C? Oxinabox (talk) 01:28, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: isn't perl a derivitive of Pascal?

message: Visual Basic is much more rememincient of C++, than of original BASIC. even in some syntax.
It my have evolved from BASIC, folllowing Microsoft's quick basic, - visual basic 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 line. 
but by the time VB^ comes around it's been so heavily influenced by C++.
DOn't know what should be done, Maybe a cross reference in the tree? Oxinabox (talk) 01:28, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Mmmpf.  I took a look at T-SQL recently (on a dare) and have come to the conclusion that in Redmond's damp climate, all languages rot into a form of Visual Basic in three years or less. -- Craig Goodrich 24.14.168.244 (talk) 00:42, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Visual Basic

message: The list is organized by which language a given language was based upon. How about saying a given language was influenced by a language rather than based upon it?90.134.106.50 (talk) 15:17, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  -based or -influenced 

message: Is Scala (programming language) missing?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.162.208.204 (talk) 23:36, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Others 

message: Python is based on Modula-2/Oberon models, not C.
It should be placed in Pascal family near Lua.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.80.71.142 (talk) 22:19, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Should SETL (correctly listed as parent of ABC and grandparent of Python) really be a root? I have always assumed it was strongly influenced by ALGOL.  However I cannot find any mention of this by Jack Schwartz or anyone else involved in the design of the language. --Finnw (talk) 20:09, 19 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Python is not C=based definetely 

message: It was designed as a replacement for C++ and includes almost all features presented in C++. Vladislav.kuzkokov (talk) 08:23, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  D is more based on C++ than C