Talk:ZAKA

message: Moved from article, apparently a copyvio as well as ephemeral and POV:
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Israeli emergency response organization ZAKA will display the shattered shell of a bus that was attacked by a Palestinian suicide bomber, at the Jewish Expo 2003 in Manhattan later this month. Family members of the victims of this horrific attack are unhappy about ZAKA?s plan: N.Y. Fair to Display Bombed Israeli Bus.
Relatives of the bombing's victims are outraged, and Israeli government officials have quietly questioned the wisdom of the plans by ZAKA Rescue and Recovery, an Israeli disaster response group.
The idea is bring home the horror of the terror attacks that have plagued Israel, as well as to raise funds for ZAKA, a group of mostly ultra-Orthodox Jewish volunteers who assist ambulance crews and identify and collect body parts for burial.
In three years of Israeli-Palestinian fighting, 413 people have been killed in 102 Palestinian suicide bombings, many of them targeting city buses.
The wreckage of the bus that was blown up in Jerusalem on June 18, 2002, killing 19 people, will be displayed in Manhattan at Jewish Expo 2003, scheduled for Dec. 20-22 the start of the Hanukkah holiday.
"We want people to know what's really going on here," said ZAKA spokesman Zelig Feiner, noting that both Israel and New York have been targets of terrorism. He said the project also is designed to raise money for the organization.
Feiner said ZAKA has received Israeli complaints that the display will offset efforts at the fair to boost tourism, which has been hurt by the violence. Survivors of terror attacks and families of victims also say they're shocked by the planned display.
A spokesman for Israel's Terror Victims Association, Meir Indor, said ZAKA's display cheapens the deaths and survivors' trauma, especially because it is being done partly to raise money.
"They're marketing the blood of the people," Indor said.
I?m of two minds about ZAKA?s plan. I fully understand and empathize with the family members? pain and upset. But I also think this display has the potential of awakening the media-deadened consciences of people who might otherwise wander through the fair without coming away with any new inspirations. "
To add to Recent History section: They volunteered in the aftermath of Katrina.
The acronym reminds one of the Hebrew word tzedakah and the Arabic word zakat, which mean essentially the same thing in practice: engagement in charitable causes. 204.52.215.107 20:52, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
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message: I'm questioning the need for the assault by the one member being included in this article. It seems to have had nothing to do witht he organization, and does not reflect well on it. It seems unfair to have an attack by one member on the organizations article page. Basejumper 11:43, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I came here from the victim's article.  The attack seems to be an emotional outburst by one or two people, very little to do with the group itself. I would support removing the whole section from this article.  BTW I was very impressed with the article and the group's work. Steve Dufour 13:35, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and removed the section.  If it's that important someone can give it its own article. Steve Dufour 13:42, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
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message: Title basically says it. Quoting from the Abbreviations section there:
It seems that our article title should be synchronized with this policy, esp. since it is used as an example...  Musashiaharon (talk) 21:24, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Endorse. Thank you for discussing it before changing it. Joe407 (talk) 21:56, 24 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like the Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Hebrew) meant acronyms or roshei teivot when writing the abbreviations section there. All of the other examples listed there are roshei teivot, but are still spelled with an initial capital. Also, :WP:ACRONYMTITLE seems to deal with English acronyms, as opposed to Hebrew. Musashiaharon (talk) 02:32, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that's weird. On the Zaka (or ZAKA) website, it appears both as ZAKA and as Zaka (although only in text appearing in images). Musashiaharon (talk) 02:38, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Shuki - NASA & NATO are both acronyms for English full names.  If Zaka stood for "Zestful Aggregation of Killed Artifices" we could use ZAKA as the article title. Joe407 (talk) 08:11, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename to Zaka, per [[Wikipedia:Naming_conventions_(Hebrew)]]? 

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message: hi. I don't know if anybody does have percentage figures, but some notion of it maybe? Are they 99% into collecting body parts and identifying the dead? Or are they also paramedics to a larger degree, giving first aid, running a blood bank, etc.?
What does "identifying bodies" actually mean? How could people parachuted from Israel "identify" South Asians they had never seen before? They read the ID cards of orderly behaving corpses? In those weird alphabets? (See tsunami section.) It makes zero sense.
The article looks a bit like a smoke screen, leaving the reader with more questions than answers. Jewish and apparently Muslim religious laws seem to require every human body part to be buried, and they're dealing with that. OK. So a religious outfit. The rest is very opaque. Arminden (talk) 10:58, 18 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pls clarify: to what extent is Zaka also dealing with LIVING patients?