Talk:Numbers (spreadsheet)

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message: If you Google "numbers spreadsheet" you will not find the article here on the Wiki. Is there any naming guide that says the article should be Numbers (software) and not Numbers (spreadsheet) or something similar? Maury Markowitz (talk) 23:46, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't find any firm answer, but the spirit of much of WP:NC is consistency. All the iWork articles should be named consistently...and it turns out they are not. I think it's best to call it Numbers (iWork), and likewise for Pages and Keynote. I'll initiate that process. In the mean time, I can make Numbers (spreadsheet) into a redirect which will help others find the article without it actually being moved there. HereToHelp (talk to me) 01:11, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made the redirect and put up proposed move notices on all three pages. I expect Numbers and Keynote to be noncontroversial since they already have parenthetical names. Pages does not, and I can see arguments both for and against appending " (iWork)" to the title. HereToHelp (talk to me) 01:27, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

text: Part of my dislike of using the type of software parenthetically is that we can make spreadsheet concise, word processor somewhat concise, but presentation software has no word that omits the term "software". I would prefer not to use that term since it seems fairly generic and unhelpful. WP:NAMINGCRITERIA says names should be: Recognizable, Natural, Precise, Concise, and Consistent. While your point about Google results argues against the Naturalness of "(iWork)", I think it meets all the other criteria quite well. (It will be consistent if we rename the other articles.) Where do you see that "(spreadsheet)" is common? Not one page in :Category:Spreadsheet software uses it, partially because no other company gives their software the same name as book of the Bible and the plural of a common word. Furthermore the iLife suite is no help, since none of them use parenthetical clarifiers. So there is no pattern set. That said I think Numbers (spreadsheet) is a fine redirect; that's why I made it. HereToHelp (talk to me) 12:50, 1 September 2011 (UTC)

text: iWork doesn't give much information to the new user and sounds more like we're branding ourselves as Apple. I oppose this descriptor. Spreadsheet seems fine to me.  As far as violetriga's point that Numbers is not a spreadsheet but rather a "spreadsheet application", this seems like splitting hairs. 158.145.240.100 (talk) 19:09, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not splitting hairs, it's a massive difference.  violet/riga [talk] 21:54, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that it should be (software) or at least (spreadsheet software). Just using (spreadsheet) would make more sense if it was one specific spreadsheet document, but it is not, and the title doesn't need to explain what the software does. (software) seems unambiguous and accurate to me. FeatherPurple (talk) 18:37, 29 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving Numbers (software) 

message: This currently reads like a promotional advetisement to me. I propose deletion and reintegration of the section. The information can be integrated into the layout and display section, carefully. Besides, the list should be turned into prose. Sennecaster  (What now?) 03:20, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concerning the "Other notable features" section