Talk:Kitsilano

message: I corrected the text since Kitsilano is not entirely within Vancouver Quadra; the part west of Arbutus is within Vancouver Centre according to this map (see also this text description).
Also added provincial riding info.
--Mathew5000 09:35, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Electoral districts 

message: It seems wierd to have a section on restaurants in Kits.  I don't see any of the other Vancouver neighborhoods with a restaurants section.  It's just a list with no links and no description.  
Possibilities: either a) remove it, b) add links to the restaurant homepages, c) add restaurants section to all Vancouver neighborhoods sections.
My preference is a) since it just seems strange and out of place.  Of course options b) and c) should go together.
:Actually I'd go with c), as many restaurants are notable in various ways, sometimes for what buildings they're in (though not in any Kitsilano case I can think of); the point is to give an idea of the flavour of the area; names need not be used, but a broader pallette or what 4th is about than hippiedon vs. gentrification is in there too; the Greek places etc.  Ditto Broadway; the Drive has a different range of offerings, likewise North Van vs Main Street vs Kerrisdale; it's what establishes identity in part; and as I just added, Kits has a certain style of restaurant, and has pioneered certain things locally (California-style Mex at the Topanga and Las Margaritas, e.g.) vs other area's own originalities (Gastown's long history of restaurant experiments).Skookum1 08:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restaurants 

message: OK, as elsewhere I'm wary of adding overmuch to the history section, which can be quite lengthy if let be; that's why some are inline comments which perhaps someone else can condense down to visibility if suitable; I know I should have put them here, naughty-naughty....but anyway, the story of Greer's Beach and the old Kitsilano streetcar loop, and the 4th Avenue extension and what-not, should all be here, and it's all quite interesting; also something about the ultra-wealthy strip along Point Grey Road from Kits Beach to Jericho (I happen to know the family connected with the name Locarno, the Delmonicos, but that's another story).  I also can't quite recall the other community halls than the Russian Community Centre; there's that one at about 7th and Balsam or Vine, and the one at Vine and 5th (formerly a bank, or church, for a while a native centre, maybe townhouses now), and others; there's other historical businesses worth noting; btw the name of the store on Broadway called Kiss-A-Rhino is an old kid's nickname for Kitsilano.Skookum1 08:38, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History section

message: Also the standard nickname "Skitsilano"/"Schitzalano" etc. or just "Skitz" ("Schiz" maybe?) should be mentioned somewhere here; perhaps The Straight is the place to look for a cite for the usage.  It's uncitable, but I swear the area has the highest concentration of amateur psychiatrists on the planet ;-) - and of course eco-volunteerism and leading-the-way in recycling and organic-ness.  I should probably try and fit in Banyen Books, one of the flagships of what the counterculture, um, turned into - are they still up on Broadway?  Trying to remember where they were on 4th....Skookum1 08:38, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And speaking of old Kits lore, a Harold Hedd article is sorely needed, as well as articles on others from that time....Skookum1 08:48, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Skitsilano"/"Schitzalano" etc. or just "Skitz"

message: And actually the armoury right in there on 10th, just west of Arbutus, too; both as architecture items and as institutional items not that the Community Centre is of architectural interest, but the school is).  Maybe Connaught Park also?Skookum1 08:49, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Kitsilano High School]] and [[Kitsilano Community Centre]]

message: Sorry again for inline comments, but also needing to add that the Vancouver Dadaists, like Mr Candyman and Mr Peanut and the other surrealists here in the 60s and 70s, not only need an article, but were also Kits folks, big-time; obscure now but important in Dadaist history; I saw some of their music charts once; you rubbed fake-fur patches and sandpaper to play it...there's quite a cast of characters when you scratch Kits deeper, I'd say; btw St James Centre should be listed, perhaps have an article.Skookum1 09:04, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Famous residents and the Dadaists an St. James Centre

message: Re Franamax's deletion of the -aino pronunciation which Mr Clevver had inserted.....yes, that is a real pronunciation, although I'd have to say it's kind of old-fashioned and I'm not sure its origin; possibly some derivation of a British pronunciation - Vancouver being heavily British-from-Britain, especially the West Side, until the 1960s - or maybe, conjecturally, some kinf of play on words of the "Kitsilano line" (the Kitsilano streetcar, which ran along Cornwall).  You don't hear it much at all anymore, other than in older residents, although it's emulated in a store name - "Kiss-a-rhino" - a kid's clothing store on West Broadway - "Kiss-a-rhino" was a children's form of the -aino pronunciation, and I think there was an old rhyme using it too.  One comment about the vowel in the remaining version - it shouldn't be "twanged" as I hear many new Vancouverites doing, not diphhthong-y at all, not sure how to demonstrate what I mean in IPA.....but for sure the -aino pronunciation is leigitimate, if archaic; maybe it's in Chuck Davis' Vancouver Book?Skookum1 (talk) 13:40, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I don't think the -aino form should be shown as the primary and the way everyone actually says it as the alternative. Possibly show -aino as (archaic:)? (also:)? Franamax (talk) 18:02, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn t' mean it shoudl be the primary; only that it shoudl be n included.  "Archaic" perhaps, or maybe "originally" if that can be shown to be the case; it may be that it's a "deliberate affectation" of some kind, maybe originating in a local joke, who knows; it's why I suggested Chuck Davis' booik; he'd certainly be the one to know, or maybe somebody at the library or museum.  Another example of a local usage that's faded into the background is Jervis Street, now gneerally pronounced JUR-vis but historically English-style as JAR-vis (likewise the inlet).Skookum1 (talk) 21:59, 15 October 2008 (UTC)

text: All we need then is a source - do you have one? If it's definitive, then a source should be easy to hand. Otherwise, we have to go with "what most people would recognize" as definitive. I'm planning a trip to the library soon, I'll go to the Kits branch rather than Granville, just in case they have something more specific. Both are equidistant from my residence. Franamax (talk) 07:46, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say you need a linguistic/local culture historian rather than a librariana, though you may find a librarian who is.  But at which library?  My guess would be downtown where there would be, or might be, more "experts on staff.  Note that our IP user friend has heard it, just not often; likewise; but I remember hearing it even in the 1960s, although I didn't scan on it until someone pointed out hte Kiss-a -Rhino store.....which, hey, might be a good place to ask about it, as they[d know the history (maybe) of the term/usage.  It's something lik Skitsilano/Schizilano, though th genesis of that term's slightly different....and like I said thte Vancouver Book by Chuck Davis might ahve something on it; he's got lots of amazing trivia of all kinds; of course it's in either library....or should be, but downtown for sureSkookum1 (talk) 23:55, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: PS Schitzilano/Skitsilano/Schizilano i.e. any of those three spellings, should be sourceable in the Georgia Straight archives but I recall seeing it also in Vancouver Sun columnists.  Also, come to think of it, I betcha someone at the Vancouver Courier or Vancouver West Ender might know something about both terms....Skookum1 (talk) 00:14, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Kiss-a-Rhino

message: Under notable residents, someone has listed Brian Ruhe. Given this person is not important enough to get a wikipedia entry, and a quick google search shows (other than his own content) nothing other than an article saying he was fired from his job for hate speech, should he really be listed? (Edit: Just checked history, was added last month by a random IP, as it's only contribution.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.232.250.181 (talk) 23:55, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Persons? 

message: The redundancy of the "Government" section alone should make anyone consider to remove it. Most if not all other places don't have it, or an infobox at all. If someone more proficient than me can make everything consistent throughout Vancouver, then that'd be awesome BrendonIrwan (talk) 07:25, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Streamlining all Vancouver neighborhood infoboxes.