Talk:Names of the Valencian Community

message: :After a quite extensive search throughtout the whole internet, I haven't been able to find any single source to state that this flag has 1:2 proportions. No laws, no estatutes, no decrees... nothing. I have to say, that I ALMOST couldn't find anything to state it is 2:3 either... Only the source I gave some weeks ago, and that "some users" didn't believe... BUT, then, I thought about where to adress to ask for a confirmed source. And what better choice than the Spanish Vexillological Society (the SEV, see []) which, BTW is a member of the Fédération internationale des associations vexillologiques. So, I believe this source to be the most trustworthy of all.
:This said, I went to SEV site, [], and found a "banderas" (flags) link on the left. Then, I clicked on the "Comunidades Autónomas" link, see [], and then on the "Comunidad Valenciana/Comunitat Valenciana" one see [], to get here: [], where it clearly states a proportions of 2:3.
:But, maybe this society simply had these same proportions for all spanish autonomous communities flags... WRONG! let's see some examples:
#CASTILLA Y LEÓN: proportions 76:99. See, []
#CASTILLA-LA MANCHA: proportions 1:2. See, []
#COMUNIDAD DE MADRID: proportions 7:11. See, []
#PAÍS VASCO/EUSKADI: proportions 14:25. See, []
:Being ALL OTHERS of proportions 2:3.
:I sincerely hope this FINALLY ends the fight about the proportions. I gave the most trustworthy source available, which NO ONE can doubt. --Maurice27 14:07, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proportions of the Valencian autonomous community Flag

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message: I agree with the anon which changed the section name to "Pais Valencia" (sorry, no tildes where I am hailing from right now). 
The fact that the other titles sections are written in English not being, in my opinion, a excuse whatsoever to keep a  disputed English translation (see talk page of Valencian Community) "Valencian Country" over the undisputed, original and well established "Pais Valencia" (besides, "Levante" is kept in original Spanish anyway, not translated as "Eastern Land" whatever...but...., hey this is not an invitation to do so!) Mountolive  our unsleepable friend gets the message on an ill wind 16:22, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree, as much as I disagreed on the purported "mis"-translation of Catalan Countries, even if that was changed as a compromise. Even if the anon uses the same rationale as that of BNS's reasons in Talk:Catalan Countries, all the sources that I provided proved that "country" can be rendered as region: they were rejected not because of their meaning but because they could not be "used in the plural", but only in the "singular", according to him. That logic cannot be applied here. If you wish I will reproduce the links to English-speaking dictionaries, again, but I do hope that that will not be necessary. --the Dúnadan 18:03, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Fair enough, BNS, no preminence should be given to any translation. However, based on the sources, there are only two renderings used "Valencian Country" and "Land of Valencia". "Valencian Region" refers to the denomination used during Franco's time,the translation of "Regió(n) Valenciana" (and a section already expounds on that denomination). I have not seen that denomination as a rendering of "País Valenciano" directly. Of course, sources can prove otherwise, and we can reinsert the third translation, if necessary. So far, we can keep "Valencian Country" and "Land of Valencia", even though I fail to see the need to put them both in "quotation marks", any more than putting "Valencian Community" in quotation marks either. They're both translations. --the Dúnadan 00:22, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Good job, and the reference you added is ad hoc since it is a 2006 reference, and not one related to the Región Valenciana denomination during Franco's dictatorship. --the Dúnadan 05:03, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pais Valencia

message: In this text is said that "País Valencià" can de translated as "Valencian Region", and it has a reference. But if We check that reference, We don't see any mention to "País Valencià", it's only a reference (We could find more) to the use of "Valencian region", doesn't seem to me as a reference of "País Valencià could be translated as Valencian region". Shouldn't We remove that part? --Coentor (talk) 18:31, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure it makes a problem, since we also have two different names in "autochtonous" language, both very differently connoted ("País valencià"/"Regió valenciana", the same in castillan). Xic667 (talk) 19:03, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: País Valencià - Valencian Region 

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