Talk:Carbon sink

message: I've removed outdated and tangential content that no longer fits the structure of this, and related, articles. Working on re-focusing this article. Moving it here to the talk page in case someone wants to rescue some sentences:
=== Kyoto Protocol ===
The Kyoto Protocol was an international agreement that aimed at reducing carbon dioxide () emissions and the presence of greenhouse gases (GHG) in the atmosphere. The essential tenet of the Kyoto Protocol was that industrialized nations needed to reduce their  emissions. Because growing vegetation takes in carbon dioxide, the Kyoto Protocol allows Annex I countries with large areas of growing forests to issue Removal Units to recognize the sequestration of carbon. The additional units make it easier for them to achieve their target emission levels. It is estimated that forests absorb between  each year, through photosynthetic conversion into starch, cellulose, lignin, and other components of wooden biomass. While this has been well documented for temperate forests and plantations, the fauna of the tropical forests place some limitations for such global estimates.
Some countries seek to trade emission rights in carbon emission markets, purchasing the unused carbon emission allowances of other countries. If overall limits on greenhouse gas emission are put into place, cap and trade market mechanisms are purported to find cost-effective ways to reduce emissions. There is as yet no carbon audit regime for all such markets globally, and none is specified in the Kyoto Protocol.  National carbon emissions are self-declared.
In the Clean Development Mechanism, only afforestation and reforestation are eligible to produce certified emission reductions (CERs) in the first commitment period of the Kyoto Protocol (2008–2012). Forest conservation activities or activities avoiding deforestation, which would result in emission reduction through the conservation of existing carbon stocks, are not eligible at this time. Also, agricultural carbon sequestration is not possible yet. EMsmile (talk) 13:39, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed outdated content about Kyoto protocoll 

message: The Kyoto Protocol was an international agreement that aimed at reducing carbon dioxide () emissions and the presence of greenhouse gases (GHG) in the atmosphere. The essential tenet of the Kyoto Protocol was that industrialized nations needed to reduce their  emissions. Because growing vegetation takes in carbon dioxide, the Kyoto Protocol allows Annex I countries with large areas of growing forests to issue Removal Units to recognize the sequestration of carbon. The additional units make it easier for them to achieve their target emission levels. It is estimated that forests absorb between  each year, through photosynthetic conversion into starch, cellulose, lignin, and other components of wooden biomass. While this has been well documented for temperate forests and plantations, the fauna of the tropical forests place some limitations for such global estimates.
Some countries seek to trade emission rights in carbon emission markets, purchasing the unused carbon emission allowances of other countries. If overall limits on greenhouse gas emission are put into place, cap and trade market mechanisms are purported to find cost-effective ways to reduce emissions. There is as yet no carbon audit regime for all such markets globally, and none is specified in the Kyoto Protocol.  National carbon emissions are self-declared.
In the Clean Development Mechanism, only afforestation and reforestation are eligible to produce certified emission reductions (CERs) in the first commitment period of the Kyoto Protocol (2008–2012). Forest conservation activities or activities avoiding deforestation, which would result in emission reduction through the conservation of existing carbon stocks, are not eligible at this time. Also, agricultural carbon sequestration is not possible yet. EMsmile (talk) 13:39, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kyoto Protocol 

message: I think this article is old and needs a bit of tender, love and care. To start with, I think there is a lot of content that ought to be moved to carbon sequestration (most of the second half of the article). I think the article could be shortened and re-focused and become just a high level article on the term "carbon sink", linking readers (with short summaries) to the relevant sub-articles. Pinging User:ASRASR who is currently working on carbon sequestration. EMsmile (talk) 13:49, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for this. My gut feeling is that we move the good bits into the carbon sequestration article (partial merge in effect) under a carbon sink section. Then we can suggest on this talk page to leave it as a simple high level article with links since the term is rather popular among readers. ASRASR (talk) 17:12, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've started the process of moving some content to carbon sequestration. Can you please take a look? I'm still quite confused on how the final structure of the two articles should look. E.g. the content on "enhancing natural carbon sinks" overlaps with content at carbon sequestration. The term "carbon sink" feels more intuitive though than "carbon sequestration" (and is used more in the media?) and so I think we need to be very clear in both articles what each one does and does not cover. EMsmile (talk) 13:08, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving content to [[carbon sequestration]]? 

message: Hi User:Epipelagic, I have just moved the section that you had last year added about riverine transport to further down in the article. I am not sure if you would agree with this edit? It just felt a bit out of place in its current location in the article. I actually wonder if it shouldn't rather be moved to carbon cycle as the term carbon sink is very much linked to the whole climate change mitigation concept, isn't it (more so than the carbon cycle concept), or am I looking at it wrongly? I am confused. If my edit is no good, feel free to revert or to improve on it. I just think the section didn't fit (anymore) under "types of carbon sinks". EMsmile (talk) 01:50, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fine. Though I don't see the new subheading is necessary or adds anything – it's not clear what "movements between different carbon sinks" even means. It is more a movement between different carbon reservoirs, namely from the terrestrial reservoir to the ocean, via rivers. The rivers themselves become brief reservoirs. It is not so much a movement between sinks - rather movements into a sink, which creates another reservoir. — Epipelagic (talk) 05:05, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hello, I just felt that a section heading of "riverine transport" wasn't very clear either. Also it seems that carbon sinks are by definition "long term" so what you are describing in that section is more about carbon pools/reservoirs which are temporary? I am not really sure on this but I just wonder if the description of movement in and out of temporary carbon pools might be better placed at carbon cycle? Note carbon cycle doesn't say much about rivers yet. Because if not then why focus here on the riverine transport in particular when there are lots of other mechanisms that move carbon from A to B in the earth system, too? My inclination (but perhaps I am wrong) is to keep the article about carbon sink rather high level and only in the context of climate change. Maybe that is a wrong starting point? (the carbon cycle article does mention carbon sinks in passing but does not very clearly define them). EMsmile (talk) 10:33, 1 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi Epipelagic, I am just wondering where we stand with this now and if you agree with my suggestions? My suggestion would be to move this entire section to carbon cycle. EMsmile (talk) 11:23, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, I agree with this, and made the transfer. — Epipelagic (talk) 12:08, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks. EMsmile (talk) 13:21, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question about riverine transport section 

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