Talk:Toast (honor)

message: I hope I didn't offend the writer of this section, but I removed the excessive exclamation marks in the toast. Pied beauty 16:43, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toasts of Caucasus Peoples 

message: This article doesn't mention the origins of this practice. I think it would be a very interesting addition. Blaise Joshua 14:17, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it was the vikings who toasted to ensure that their drink wasn't poisoned. I dunno where I've heard it though. κаллэмакс 17:27, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Here's one. Perhaps not the most authoritative source, but it's a start.  Hashashin 14:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins 

message: The article says that American rarely toast.  I disagree.  Is there a source anyone could find for this? Jmlk17 07:19, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Americans 

message: Please, if feasible, more info. on these translations, on  cin  cin cin, et cetera.
Thank You,
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thread_title:  [[ international ]] 

message: This toast is used in French as well.
80.202.37.179 (talk) 12:45, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chin chin 

message: I went to German wiktionary, and searched "Gsundheit", from the (poorly named!) "Worldwide" section, producing
: Meintest du „Gesundheit“?
which in English is "Did you mean "Gesundheit"? I'm fixing it in the accompanying article.--Jerzy•t 00:05, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gsundheit 

message: I want to remove the template from the article saying that it doesn't cite any sources, since it now cites several.
But I can't figure out what the template is for the prose issue alone. I tried just removing the citation part from the multiple issue template, but it looked weird to have a headline of "multiple issues" when there only was one issue listed. Someone with better knowledge of WP templates than me should fix this. Bobber0001 (talk) 10:26, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  No longer a "multiple issue" article 

message: Some of these are common knowledge in the English-speaking world, many of them not at all so. Each one really needs validation with WP:RS DavidOaks (talk) 22:17, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure many of these are legit, but in the past, some ringers have been brought in -- w/o WP:RS, how can anyone tell the difference? It's been tagged for long enough; here's the list as it stood before deletion -- items should not be restored without individual sourcing.
* "Aish karo" (Enjoy),(India)..
* "Balle", "Chak De" (India)
* "Аз жаргал хүсье" (Wish you happiness), (Mongolia)
* "Будем здоровы" (To health) (Russia)
* "Будьмо" (abbreviation for "Будьмо здорові" - "To our health") (Ukraine)
* "Ваше здоровье" (To your health) (Russia)
* "Bula" (Cheers, Greetings), (Fiji Islands)
* "بصحتك" (To health) (Arabic, Arab World)
* "Kessak" (Cheers) (Lebanon)
* "سلامتی"(Salahmatie) or "به سلامتی"(Be salahmatie) or "سلام"(Salahm) (To good health) (Persian , Iran)
* "Bottoms Up" (United Kingdom)
* "Cheers" (Thank you) (United Kingdom, Ireland, United States, New Zealand, South Africa, Australia, and Canada)
* "Chin Chin" (The sound made by the cups) (Argentina, United Kingdom, France, French Canada and Portugal)
* "ดื่ม (Duem)" (Drink) (Thailand)
* "Chúc Sức Khoẻ" (Live long and prosper) (Vietnam)
* "Ձեր կենացը՜" (For your health) (Armenia)
* "Egészségedre" (To your good health) (Hungary)
* "干杯，乾杯 （Gan Bei）" (Empty the cup/glass) (China)
* "გაუმარჯოს" (To victory) (Georgia)
* "Γειά μας" ("Yia mas", meaning "to our health") (Greece)
* "건배" (Geonbae) or "위하여" (Wihayeo) (Korea)
* "Gesondheid" (Health) (South African Afrikaans)
* "Iechyd Da" (Wales)
* "Į sveikatą" (To health) (Lithuania)
* "乾杯" (かんぱい) (Kanpai) (Japan)
* "Kippis" (Finland)
* "לחיים" (L'Chayim) (To life) (Hebrew, Israel)
* "Letenachin" (Ethiopia)
* "Here's mud in your eye" (United States)
* "Наздраве" (To good health) (Bulgaria)
* "На здравје" (To good health) (Republic of Macedonia)
* "Mabuhay!" (Long live!) or "Kampay" (borrowed term from 乾杯; Japanese kanpai and Chinese gunbei) (Philippines)
* "Maisha Merefu" (To good life) ([Kenya])
* Mot Hai Ba Yo! 1, 2, 3, Cheers -Vietnam
* "Na zdraví" (To health) (Czech Republic)
* "Na zdravie" (To health) (Slovakia)
* "Na zdravje" (To health) (Slovenia)
* "Na zdravlje" (To good health) & "Živjeli" (To longer life) (Bosnia and Herzegovina)
* "Na zdrowie" (To health) and "Sto lat!" ("100 years [of life to you]")(Poland)
* "Noroc" (Good luck) (Romania, Moldovahttp://www.welcome-moldova.com/articles/wine-festival-in-moldova.shtml)
* "Onna Ehenam" (Shall we gentlemen),"Ayubo wewa" (Long Life) (Sri Lanka)
* "Priekā", "prosit" (To joy/cheer) (Latvia)
* "Proost" (Netherlands)
* "Prost", "Prosit" (Germany and Austria) from Latin "prosit" -- "may it be good, i.e., for you"  
* "Pura vida" (Costa Rica)
* "Saħħa" (Health), "Eviva" (Maltese)
* "Saliq" (Azerbaijan)
* "Salud" (Health) (Spain and Spanish speaking places)
* "Salut" (Catalan Countries)
* "Salute" (Health) or "Cin cin" or "Cent'anni" (A hundred years [of good health / luck]) or "Viva" (Italy)
* "Sǎnǎtate!" (Health) (Romania)
* "Santé" (Health) (France, French-speaking Switzerland and Québec)
* "Saúde" (Health) (Brazil, Portugal and Portuguese speaking places)
* "Schol" (Flanders)
* "Şerefe" (To honour) (Turkey)
* "Skål" ([The] cup) (Denmark, Norway and Sweden, also used in Australia. pronounced, "skull", meaning that the glass must be drained in one attempt)
* "Skál" ([The] cup) (Iceland, Faroe Islands, Denmark, Norway, Sweden and Finland)
* "Skoal" (Anglicization of Skål) (English-speaking countries)
* "Sláinte" (Ireland) (meaning 'good health')
* "Slàinte" (Scotland)
* "Tchim-tchim" (Brazil, Portugal and Portuguese speaking places)
* "Terviseks" (For health) (Estonia)
* "Topa" (Clink [the glasses]) (Basque)
* "Tsjoch" (Friesland)
* "Tzvertji nye vy Şorcj" (May death come swiftly to your enemies) (South Ossetia) 
* "Yec'hed mat" (Breton)
* "飲勝"(Yam Sing) or "飲杯"(Yam Bui) (Hong Kong)
* "Živeli"(To life/health) (Serbia)
* "Živjeli" (To life) or "Nazdravlje" (To health) or "U zdravlje" (To health) (Croatia)
* "Zum Wohl" (To (your) well-being) (Germany, Austria and German-speaking Switzerland)
DavidOaks (talk) 13:31, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources for international toasts 

message: * What is toasting custom for a guest who is unwilling to drink alcohol because he intends to drive home, or is teetotal, or is a reformed (successfully dried-out) former alcoholic and dare not touch a drop else that will restart his old addiction full power? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:51, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  No thankyou, sorry, I'm driving 

message: The article mentions "spiced toast". Does it mean "spiced toast"? 109.67.203.144 (talk) 05:21, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  spiced toast 

message: Italian Treccani encyclopaedia states that "cincin" has chinese derivation, or is an onomatopoeia.
I'm pretty sure that french, spanish and portoguese toast have the same history. I can't find any clue of hebrew past, so I changed the italian and put the cn on the other ones.--EntroDipintaGabbia (talk) 00:26, 2 October 2012 (UTC
: It's listed under Spanish, Portugese, Italian, French, and Catalan, and the without citation, I suspect shenanigans on the Hebrew derivation, as well as the Chinese. Ching/Qing/etc is not a toast heard in Mandarin, and the cultural separation of Western Europe and China would have made this a recent trend. The history of anti-Semitism in Western Europe would have discouraged the Hebrew adoption, whereas the sound of glasses clinking together in the act of toasting is uniform across borders and languages. 70.188.228.166 (talk) 05:46, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, it's pretty silly that essentially the same toast is given three completely different meanings and derivations. My own personal WP:OR (or WP:SWAG) is that the onomatopoeia is quite plausible, and the Hebrew and Mandarin derivations are quite implausible. I'd be comfortable changing all three to "onomatopoeia (citation needed)" — but perhaps someone can find a cite? — Narsil (talk) 05:28, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not hearing any further comment, I'm going to change the meaning for all those languages to "onomatopoeia (sound of clinked glasses) (citation needed)" -- I hope that's okay? -- Narsil (talk) 01:02, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  ADDENDUM: The Italian dictionary entry cited does suggest that onomatopoeia was at least part of the derivation. I think it's reasonable to use that etymology for all of them. -- Narsil (talk) 01:07, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cincin and other similar toasting. 

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