Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Mammals/Archive 2

message: You may have noticed that User:Polbot's been creating a metric shedload of organism stubs, including many rodents.  As a result,  became considerably oversized -- twice over, in fact.  I've tried to bash these into some sort of shape:  see the various new subcats, and the discussion at WP:WSS/P.  I've no idea whether the Latin or common names are preferable for most of these, so please give some consideration to that issue.  There's possibly scope for yet more stub type:  the parent could be reduced with one family that's about on the cusp of the usual creation threshold (Dipodidae), and probably further if higher taxons were used (such as the Hystricognathi).  As the main category's down to manageable proportions, I thought I'd leave such more arguable cases for the time being.  Alai 05:13, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{cl|rodent stubs}}: please review 

message: And not so very differently, the bats: subtypes proposed.  Alai 06:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bat stubs subtypes 

message: There is currently a debate underway at the main wikipedia manual of style regarding whether common names of animals should carry an initial capital letter (horse or Horse) when used in the body of the text.  As the outcome may affect your project, if anyone would like to contribute to the debate, with either view, please visit Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style#Common names of animals.  Thanks for your time. Owain.davies 10:58, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is looking strongly like the rules are going to be changed in favour of no-caps (fexcept for birds). Since mammal articles are likely to be heavily impacted I'd suggest WP:MAMMAL at least have a look lest the changes be made without input. Sabine's Sunbird  talk 22:19, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If that's the case, then I support the change.  Common names are common; but, as several minor edit skirmishes have shown, not necessarily universally accepted.  I think the best option would to have articles listed under the scientific name, with the list of common names in the opening of the article.  As to establishing a "standard list of common names," that's like trying to enforce proper grammar on the practice of insults.  It also eliminates the immediate evolutionary connection with other member of a particular genus, etc.  We shouldn't support common names, and therefore should not capitalize them thus providing some legitimacy. Creationists, for example, traditionally love common names--they don't want to give the overwhelmingly obvious fact of evolution any more credit then it already has in the public mind.  Also, listing the common names second allows more than one to be fully acknowledged--this prevent any local or cultural name for an animal from being ignored or downplayed.  Just some of my thoughts. TeamZissou 22:50, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalisation debate at main WP:MOS 

message: Hi guys, can you help us with this article. We are planning on making this GA or FA soon.--Lenticel (talk) 06:21, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Tamaraw]] article up for[[Wikipedia:Peer review/Tamaraw/archive1| review]] 

message: I think it's both a pity and somewhat illogical that we have no animal WikiProject despite the fact that there are over 20 projects that are basically its daughters. There are also other projects that could emerge from it in the future, such as one on animal behavior. The project would provide a central place for people from all animal projects to talk, a central set of guidelines for articles on animals and zoology, and an assessment system for articles related to animals. If you are interested in creating such a project please visit Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of life#Animals project to discuss. Richard001 08:57, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Animals project proposal

message: Greetings from WikiProject Disambiguation!  We are disambiguating migration, and we find an excellent article on bird migration, but it appears there is no article at all on non-bird animal migration.  There are three redirects (Animal Migration, Migration of animals, Animal migration) but no article.  Would someone here like to write an article on mammal migration?— Randall Bart (talk) 04:45, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Migratory animals 

message: This arcticle states Insectivora as a mammal order, but it is now obselete and has been divided into Afrosoricida(Tenrecs, Otter Shrews, and Golden moles), Erinaceidae(Hedgehogs, Gynmures, and Moonrats), and Soricomorpha(Shrews, moles, Solenodons, and the extinct West Indies Shrews). This arcticle needs to be changed.
Xenathra, like insectivora, is now obselete, yet this arcticle states it as an order.
It should be devided into Pilosa(Anteaters and sloths) and Cingulata(Armadillos).
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.9.45.62 (talk • contribs).
:The Insectivora article already states that it is obsolete been replaced. Xenarthra is still a valid superorder, containing the orders Pilosa and Cingulata. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:19, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insectivora and Xenarthra

message: I would like to change the name of African Wild Dog to African Hunting Dog.  I have read in several places that this is the prefered name nowdays.  I guess it makes them sound nicer and also avoids confusion with feral domestic dogs.  Would anyone object? Steve Dufour 14:34, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have proposed a name change.  It seems that the original name is still more widely used, although some of the people working for their conservation have expressed dislike for it. Steve Dufour 04:18, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like the name will not be changed here on WP.  I started an article about the controversy, however: African Wild Dog name controversy. Steve Dufour 15:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wish I'd seen this earlier. I'll check MSW3 tonight to see what it says the correct common name is. - UtherSRG (talk) 16:18, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It says African wild dog.  --Aranae 18:37, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then I'd have to oppose the move. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:20, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Wilson and Reeder's (2005) Mammal Species of the World volume 3.  --Aranae 01:40, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Steve Dufour 18:05, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: African Wild Dog -> African Hunting Dog

message: The following are lists of recently created categories that may need revision and might make their way to CFD.  Perhaps we can discuss them by section and by individual entry.  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 03:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Chipmunks.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 03:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Marmots.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 03:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 03:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Dipodid rodents or :Category:Dipodids.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Fossorial muroids or move to :Category:Spalacids.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree, I prefer :Category:Spalacids. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Mouse-like hamsters.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Delete, can remain in :Category:Muroid rodents. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems appropriate to me.  --Aranae 21:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Anomalures.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 03:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Cavies.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I prefer :Category:Caviids; I don't think Hydrochoerus can really be called a "cavy". Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point.  Move to :Category:Caviids.  --Aranae 21:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 03:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Leporids or :Category:Rabbits and hares.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree, I prefer :Category:Rabbits and hares. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Category:Rabbits and hares would be preferred. I don't believe most laypersons would be familiar with either :Category:Leporidae or :Category:Leporids. Kaldari 18:54, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Shrews.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 04:22, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Erinaceomorphs.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 03:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Fruit bats.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 05:20, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Euplerids.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 05:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Mongooses.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 05:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Mustelids.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 05:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Skunks.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 05:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Bovids.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Deer.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 05:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Pigs.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 05:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to "Category:Pocket gophers".  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Keep or move to :Category:Heteromyids. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I would vote to move.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to "Category:Gundis".  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to "Category:Old World porcupines".  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to "Category:Blesmols".  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to "Category:New World porcupines".  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Keep or move to :Category:Octodontids. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Octodonts.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to "Category:Hutias".  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to "Category:Giant hutias".  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Keep or move to :Category:Chinchillids. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I would vote to move.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Keep or move to :Category:Dasyproctids. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Agoutis and acouchis.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Moles. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Tetatively agree.  Are desmans different enough to worry about?  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd think they're just moles with a different common name. But, of course, a :Category:Moles and desmans may also be possible. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: This= :Category:Myzopoda - monotypic family.  Upmerge into :Category:Bats.  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Not exactly monotypic, since a second species has been discovered recently, but still not enough for a separate category. Upmerge (and also delete :Category:Myzopoda). Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only 2 spp in family.  Upmerge into :Category:Bats.  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Old World leaf-nosed bats.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Megadermatids.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree (or maybe upmerge?). Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Mastiff bats. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I would prefer :Category:Free-tailed bats.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, I now see that that's the name of the family article. Agree. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Mormoopids. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Funnel-eared bats or upmerge (8 spp.).  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Currently (according to Tejedor) 11 spp. in 3 genera (and two fossil genera, each with one species). I think it might be enough for a separate category. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:New World leaf-nosed bats.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Chevrotains. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Anomalures. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Anomalures. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Anomalures. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Anomalures. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Gundis. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Gundis. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Gundis. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Gundis. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Old World porcupines. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Old World porcupines. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Old World porcupines. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Blesmols. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:New World porcupines. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:New World porcupines. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:New World porcupines. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Octodontids. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Octodontids. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Octodontids. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Octodontids. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Octodontids. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Octodontids. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: No longer recognized, is a synonym of Proechimys. Delete. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No longer recognized, is a synonym of Mogera. Delete. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to "Category:Gazelles" and fill.  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Note that several gazelles are currently placed in different genera (Nanger, for example). A category for the subfamily Antilopinae might be preferable. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Examples

message: These are recently constructed categories that correspond to a category that existed prior to their creation.  Most are either bot-created or are the results of a bot request.  New categories are listed first.  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 03:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Chipmunks.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 03:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Marmots.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 03:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 03:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Dipodid rodents or :Category:Dipodids.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Fossorial muroids or move to :Category:Spalacids.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree, I prefer :Category:Spalacids. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Mouse-like hamsters.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Delete, can remain in :Category:Muroid rodents. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems appropriate to me.  --Aranae 21:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Anomalures.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 03:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Cavies.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I prefer :Category:Caviids; I don't think Hydrochoerus can really be called a "cavy". Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point.  Move to :Category:Caviids.  --Aranae 21:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 03:57, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Leporids or :Category:Rabbits and hares.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree, I prefer :Category:Rabbits and hares. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Category:Rabbits and hares would be preferred. I don't believe most laypersons would be familiar with either :Category:Leporidae or :Category:Leporids. Kaldari 18:54, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Shrews.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 04:22, 12 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Erinaceomorphs.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 03:07, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Fruit bats.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 05:20, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Euplerids.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 05:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Mongooses.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 05:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Mustelids.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 05:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Skunks.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 05:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Bovids.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Deer.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 05:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Pigs.  --Aranae 05:47, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:34, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  --Aranae 05:38, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New categories equivalent to existing categories

message: These are categories that are in the format [stem]-idae.  This may be objectionable if we want to name categories based on common name for the group or in the plural [stem]-ids format.  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Move to "Category:Pocket gophers".  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Keep or move to :Category:Heteromyids. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I would vote to move.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to "Category:Gundis".  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to "Category:Old World porcupines".  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to "Category:Blesmols".  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to "Category:New World porcupines".  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Keep or move to :Category:Octodontids. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Octodonts.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to "Category:Hutias".  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to "Category:Giant hutias".  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Keep or move to :Category:Chinchillids. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I would vote to move.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Keep or move to :Category:Dasyproctids. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Agoutis and acouchis.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Moles. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Tetatively agree.  Are desmans different enough to worry about?  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd think they're just moles with a different common name. But, of course, a :Category:Moles and desmans may also be possible. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: This= :Category:Myzopoda - monotypic family.  Upmerge into :Category:Bats.  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Not exactly monotypic, since a second species has been discovered recently, but still not enough for a separate category. Upmerge (and also delete :Category:Myzopoda). Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only 2 spp in family.  Upmerge into :Category:Bats.  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Old World leaf-nosed bats.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Megadermatids.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree (or maybe upmerge?). Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Mastiff bats. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I would prefer :Category:Free-tailed bats.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, I now see that that's the name of the family article. Agree. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Mormoopids. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Funnel-eared bats or upmerge (8 spp.).  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Currently (according to Tejedor) 11 spp. in 3 genera (and two fossil genera, each with one species). I think it might be enough for a separate category. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:New World leaf-nosed bats.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree. Ucucha 06:56, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to :Category:Chevrotains. Ucucha 06:40, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Agree.  --Aranae 21:35, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Family level categories

message: These are categories at the genus-level and currently contain 5 or fewer articles.  They may be candidates for deletion and upmerging.  Alternatively, they may have some potential for growth and/or be useful.  I suggest they be dealt with on a case-by-case basis.  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Anomalures. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Anomalures. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Anomalures. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Anomalures. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Gundis. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Gundis. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Gundis. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Gundis. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Old World porcupines. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Old World porcupines. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Old World porcupines. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Blesmols. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:New World porcupines. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:New World porcupines. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:New World porcupines. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Octodontids. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Octodontids. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Octodontids. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Octodontids. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Octodontids. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge into :Category:Octodontids. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: No longer recognized, is a synonym of Proechimys. Delete. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No longer recognized, is a synonym of Mogera. Delete. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Only one species. Delete and upmerge. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Move to "Category:Gazelles" and fill.  --Aranae 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Note that several gazelles are currently placed in different genera (Nanger, for example). A category for the subfamily Antilopinae might be preferable. Ucucha 06:51, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Genus categories containing 5 or fewer articles

message: Now that time has passed and a grand total of two people have waded in on the specifics, what comes next?  Does this trickle to CFD one at a time?  Do we send all of this over there at once?  --Aranae 04:16, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah. Just do it. I agree with the proposals here, and thought y'all were going to go ahead and implement. - UtherSRG (talk) 04:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that you should go ahead and implement the agreed upon changes. The specifics are too technical to accommodate any kind of community-wide discussion. If you need an admin to help out with the deletions, let me know. Kaldari 18:59, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Any chance of having this or parts of this automated?  --Aranae 20:16, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't that how we got into this mess in the first place? :) Kaldari 22:27, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What next?

message: I've just suggested a Proposed project "Agriculture" with a possible alternative (or descendant, I suppose) "Livestock".  Obviously, although agriculturally significant birds would be a large area, the vast majority of livestock would be mammals, so I would appreciate commentary, preferably at:  Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Agriculture --Doug.Talk 20:45, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal for an Agriculture or Livestock Project 

message: *25 August MORFA CLIMBING RATS (PROD by User:DanielRigal; potential hoax concerning a species found only in Swansea)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ceyockey (talk • contribs) 05:16, August 28, 2007 (UTC) 
:Yes, very probably a hoax. Ucucha 06:11, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed deletions ([[WP:PROD]]) 

message: I think the content related to several kinds of mammals might be significantly improved if they had specific work groups or task forces assigned to working on that particular "family" or other qualifier. Would the members of this project perhaps be amenable to adjusting the project banner to include assessment parameters and possibly additional information regarding specific task forces? I note that there are already several proposals for new groups on the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals page for such groups, and think that they might best be facilitated by this project perhaps taking a more active role, at least as a parent project, in the development and management of such content. John Carter 15:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible task forces? 

message: Please create a separate article for: 
The actual common full name for it is "Wild Asian Water Buffalo", it is endangered (and it is little known outside wildlife circles), see IUCN Red List, while Domestic Asian Water Buffalo selectively bred for thousands of years is very famous and numbers in millions and has various livestock breeds. There are many breeds of domestic water buffalo.
===Reference===
*The IUCN Red list of threatened species classifies "Wild Water Buffalo" as "Endangered"
*Animal Info - Wild Asian (Water) Buffalo - Status: Endangered; By: Paul Massicot
Atulsnischal 00:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Please Separate: 1) "WILD" Asian Water Buffalo from 2) "[[Domestic Asian Water Buffalo]]"

message: *The IUCN Red list of threatened species classifies "Wild Water Buffalo" as "Endangered"
*Animal Info - Wild Asian (Water) Buffalo - Status: Endangered; By: Paul Massicot
Atulsnischal 00:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference

message: Please develop this article whenever you all can find time, Thanks Atulsnischal 01:01, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wild Asian Water Buffalo]]

message: The article on the Dzo (yak-cow hybrid) needs alot of work. It doesn't even have a scientific categorization. VanTucky Talk 01:44, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stub needing serious work