Talk:Protected Planets Treaty

message: I removed a bullet point from the "Finer Points" section:
"*In one attempt, the System Lord Anubis used a mothership to send an asteroid on a path towards Earth. It appeared to be of natural causes, and was thus not able to be dealt with by the Asgard."
This is incorrect. Anubis was not a System Lord when he sent the asteroid on its path. As pointed out in the episode Last Stand, the condition of Anubis resuming his position as System Lord was predicated on his promise to eradicate Earth beforehand, thereby circumventing the Protected Planets Treaty.
Natoma 22:27, 31 December 2005 (UTC)

message: I was under the impression that the treaty box was for real treaties only. JoshuaZ 20:27, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really, as long as it's clear from the article that it's fictional. LD 17:33, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Treaty box 

message: Will the planets under the protected planets treaty be protected from the Ori? I'm thinking not, the Asgard don't seem to be able to defeat Ori ships, at least not 1 on 1. 
Anyone have any insight into this?
Faris b 21:02, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected planets and the Ori? 

message: I just rewatched Thor's Hammer and, after Teal'c and Jack are transported to the cavern, I noticed something interesting in the Thor hologram: He doesn't mention the Protected Planets Treaty.  He calls Cimmeria a "safe world for developing sentient life," which doesn't specifically reference either the treaty or the Goa'uld.  More than that, he says that the Asgard have declared Cimmeria to be a safe world and so notified the Goa'uld, all other planets that we know of to be Protected have entered the treaty via negotiations between the Asgard and the Goa'uld, nobody told either party anything.
This would fit what we've seen in both Thor's Hammer and subsequent episodes.  If it was a Protected Planet there would be no need for the Hammer to be there, which is why we haven't seen another on any other planet, and also why Heru-ur would attack the planet without repercussion.  If it truly were protected, not only would he not have dared attack it directly (He would have used an intermediary or indirect method of attack, as other System Lords have), but the other System Lords would have all united against him and squahsed him like a bug; I believe it was Lord Yu who clearly stated that the System Lords had to enforce the treaty upon all Goa'uld.
The Asgard and Goa'uld are at war and, though they are in agreement with regards to the treaty, they both still have goals for the rest of the galaxy (The Asgard want to save it, the Goa'uld want to conquer it).  There's nothing in the treaty to prevent the Asgard from defending a non-protected planet, it simply means that the Goa'uld are allowed to attack it.
Thoughts?
JBK405 00:03, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Is Cimmeria a Protected Planet?

message: Since Cimmeria's been re-added, and the above section is a tad convoluted, here's a summary of why it's not a protected planet:
*It's never been stated to be a member of the Protected Planets Treaty.  Plain and simple, Wikipedia's policy against original research and supposition alone makes this enough of a reason to keep it off the list.
*Within Thor's Hammer, after Jack and Teal'c are transported to the cavern, the Thor hologram doesn't mention the Protected Planets Treaty.  He calls Cimmeria a "safe world for developing sentient life," which doesn't specifically reference either the treaty or the Goa'uld.  More than that, he says that the Asgard have declared Cimmeria to be a safe world and so notified the Goa'uld, all other planets that we know of to be Protected have entered the treaty via negotiations between the Asgard and the Goa'uld, nobody told either party anything.
*The Thor's Hammer device is unnecessary for a Protected world, and has been referred to as such by SG-1 themselves in other episodes, since the Goa'uld are forbidden to conquer those planets.
*Heru-ur's actions would break the Treaty if Cimmeria were a member.  Not only would he not have done so if it was a member, since the Goa'uld fear the Asgard, but the other System Lords would have stopped him if he did, since Yu clearly stated that the System Lords were required to enforce the treaty upon all Goa'uld.
To summarize the summary:  It was never stated to be a member of the Treaty, the actions of the Asgard are unnecessary if it is, and the actions of the Goa'uld blatantly defy the treaty.  So, unless somebody can get some concrete evidence, it should stay off the list. JBK405 05:20, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Summary