Talk:Thai people

message: Thailand is a country in the Asian Pacific. It is located in the cnetre of south-east Asia. Thailands population consists of 83, 585 thousand people. It's people per km is 125. 
Where does the figure of 51 million come from? I ask because Thailand has well over 60 million people. Of course, maybe we are excluding people in Thailand that are not Thai. But still, I am curious about the source. Anagnorisis 04:58, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's from the CIA factbook, and it's the figure for ethnic Thais.   It actually includes the Lao as well, so it should be much lower.  For the population of Thailand see Thailand. Markyour words 11:51, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

text: There are 20 million ethnic lao people in Thailand, so the population should be much smaller.  Anyone care to change? CanCanDuo 16:27, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

text: That figure of 62,000,000 Thai people in Thailand cannot be correct. The entire population of Thailand is estimated to be around 64,631,595, and only about 75% of those are ethnic Thais. The remainder are mostly Chinese. The total non-Chinese population of Thailand should be approximately 55,583,171, but that figure also includes a total of approximately 7,109,475 ethnic Malays, Khmers, Mons, and other non-Thai people. Ebizur 18:36, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Furthermore, about 29.4% of Thailand's population (approx. 19,000,000 people) speak the Isan dialect of the Lao language (it is really part of a dialect continuum between "Thai" and "Lao", apparently), which means that this large fraction of the Daic population of Thailand is ethnolinguistically more closely related, or at least equally related, to the Lao people that predominate in neighboring Laos. Ultimately, slightly less than half (about 45.6%) of the population of Thailand is ethnically Thai, which would put the Thai population of Thailand at approximately 29,472,007 or close to 30 million persons. Ebizur 18:59, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
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message: For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all  infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 23:24, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
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message: When I looked up this article I was looking for things about their genetics, ie tall or short, eye color etc since this is an ethnic group. 75.164.159.157 (talk) 22:39, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appearance 

message: I have Thai nationality by birth, but I can't consider myself as a Thai or Tai ethnic. There are at least 8 million Han-Chinese origin in the country. And around 3-5% population of 64 million is Malay (which most them are Muslims)
125.25.84.157 (talk) 17:22, 6 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This is English Wikipedia. Please use English, so that every user will be able to read your post. --RJFF (talk) 12:43, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  How can you make the number of Thai ethnics population in Thailand at 64 million? 

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message: it's hardly to find about majority Thai Siamese people ethnic, in modern days in thailand thai siamese it so few (in my opinion i go out from my house i found major thai-chinese, laotians, southern-thai, lanna people) also thai super star are so few pure siamese people and to hard to example thai people article, my ethnic father - Teochew, mother - gujarati, persian, malay, hainanese, siamese, portuguese and my mom also Colonel(army) --โจ : แฟนท่าเรือ : เกรียนที่หน้าตาไม่ดีแห่งไร้สาระนุกรม : พูดคุยกับควายตัวนี้ได้ที่นี่ 11:53, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, but you don't have to cluster half of the infobox with luk khreung, as if luk khreung were the only typical or notable Thais. The infobox of an ethnic group does not necessarily have to feature superstars. There are still enough people of mixed descent in the infobox. Samak Sundaravej has Thai-Chinese and Lao roots, Aed Carabao has Chinese roots, even King Rama I had partly Chinese roots. I agree that you will hardly find any modern Thai who is of 100% Thai heritage. --RJFF (talk) 12:42, 29 March 2012 (UTC)

text: Yep, I agree on the use of nicknames. Nearly all Thai people have them, but the proper way to refer to them in any polite context is by their real names - with the exceptions of those who are actually best known by their nicknames. -- Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 14:54, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  example people 

message: i am waiting --โจ : แฟนท่าเรือ : เกรียนที่หน้าตาไม่ดีแห่งไร้สาระนุกรม : พูดคุยกับควายตัวนี้ได้ที่นี่ 19:50, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  compare the term between of siamese and thais 

message: "Siam" and "Shan" are not all that obviously  etymologically related. The former is thought to be of Pali origin; the latter, from Chinese Sien, but no one can be sure that they are from the same origin. It should be made clear that writers on the subject up through the reign of Mongkut wrote that the Siamese always called themselves Thai, and their country Mueang Thai. Chulalongkorn, however, established the office of Crown Prince of Siam  in 1886,  and Wright in Twentieth Century Impressions of Siam (1904) opined that Siam would continue to be the name of the country. Some references from the Journal of the Siam Society heritage site:
*"The relations of Thailand with other countries gave rise to the use of various foreign terms in connection with purely Thai names. One of the most glaring examples is the name of the country itself which foreigners continued to call Siam for at least five centuries, though to the Thai themselves it was known as Muang Thai."The Origin of the Tical. de Campos, J.J. (1941)
*"...[I]ts cradle was precisely in the country designated by foreigners as "Siam" (Khmer: Syam; Chinese : Sien, etc.)"The Origins of the Sukhodaya Dynasty. Coedes, G. (1921) 
Coedes equates the terms, but as de Campos argues with respect to the origin of the term tical, that doesn't make them equal. Furthermore, some latter-day scholars limit Sien to what in English were called the Shan States to the north of the Siamese cradle.—Pawyilee (talk) 13:05, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: According to B.J. Terwiel and Chaichuen Khamdaengyodtai (Shan Manuscripts, 2003, p. 9), there are different theories about the etymology of Shan (and Siam). They mention (1.) from the Chinese word for "mountain", (2.) from the same root as Siam, and (3.) from Malay sayam ("brown"). Accoring to them, the most probable theory is the second one, with both words (and also Assam) being possibly derived from Mon rhmañña ("stranger"). --RJFF (talk) 16:28, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: I find it funny that there is no significant Thai population in China. I also see in Austria there are quite some: http://www.thailovelines.com/Frontinfo/thai-women-austria.html
What is the cut off for "significant". Surely it should be as a percentage of the population? Or is it absolute numbers?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.244.74.200 (talk) 09:59, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diaspora 

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thread_title:  Proposal for the deletion of all the galleries of personalities from the articles about ethnic groups 

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message: Sujit Wongthet is a Chinese Thai. That's why he favors the idea that the present-day Thais are Chinese mixed with Lao. In reality, there are many people who do not mix with Chinese. Dirtolin1234 (talk) 06:48, 1 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sujit Wongthet 

message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Thai peoples. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  Paul_012 (talk) 09:23, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thai peoples listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The current article text contains:
"Modern Central Thai culture has become more dominant due to official government policy, which was designed to assimilate and unify the disparate Thai in spite of ethnolinguistic and cultural ties between the non-Standard-Thai-speaking people and their communities."
I wonder whether the word "between" is intended to refer:
* only to the non-Standard-Thai-speaking people and their communities;
* or to the Standard-Thai-speaking people and communities and the non-Standard-Thai-speaking people and their communities.
In the first case, I would have expected the word "among" instead of "between". From the context I actually guess the second option is meant. If that is so, not the word "between" is needed but the word "with", or else the sentence should probably be restructured to e.g.:
"Modern Central Thai culture has become more dominant due to official government policy, which was designed to assimilate and unify the disparate Thai in spite of ethnolinguistic and cultural ties between the Standard-Thai-speaking and the non-Standard-Thai-speaking people and their communities."
Could a knowledgeable person inform us about what is actually meant?Redav (talk) 14:16, 26 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The ambiguous wording was introduced in this edit. Prior to then, the passage was about "ethnolinguistic and cultural ties between the northeastern Thai people and the people from Laos." I guess that explains the problem. Maybe the whole sentence should be rewritten. --Paul_012 (talk) 12:39, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  I would certainly welcome a good edit! Inspired by your reply, I just realized that the phrase "between the non-Standard-Thai-speaking people and their communities" may be interpreted in (yet) another way than the ways that had already come to my mind (and that may have been based on a combination of a lack of information given, misunderstanding of the context, and my guess that the word "between" may have been used ungrammatically). In that other way, "between" is meant to indicate to the relation of "the non-Standard-Thai-speaking people" and "the non-Standard-Thai-speaking communities", which then has me wondering what exactly is meant by these communities: I have found no definition or explanation of what is meant by "their communities".Redav (talk) 02:11, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ties between, among, or with? 

message: I'm very surprised you allow the use of the word "Jek" ("เจ็ก" in Thai) here. The word "เจ็ก" is a very derogatory word used to describe Chinese people and is the same as using the "N Word" to describe African American people. You really should change this word. ""Kon Chin" ("คนจีน") means "Chinese people", and is the word you should be using. 2600:1004:B0C2:DFE4:0:1:9B4D:F301 (talk) 05:30, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The word "Jek" 

message: Please can you rename this article to "Central Thai people"? This article is talking about the ethnic group, not citizens and nationals of Thailand. You could create a new article with the title "Thais" to talk about citizens and nationals of Thailand, similar to the article about Americans are only a nationality and not an ethnicity. Thailand has multiple ethnic groups. 2A04:4A43:8A7F:FDA0:B199:B3F0:51B8:E331 (talk) 18:02, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename this article to "Central Thai people" and create a new article on Thai citizens and nationals