Talk:Higher Ground (Stevie Wonder song)

message: There is no guideline that suggests that either all singles have their own page or that multiple versions of the same song receive separate articles. The guidleline that applies here, WP:MUSIC#SONGS, instead states that "Most songs[footnotes 5] do not rise to notability for an independent article and should redirect to another relevant article, such as for the songwriter, a prominent album or for the artist prominently performed the song. Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts, that have won significant awards or honors or that have been performed independently by several notable artists, bands or groups are probably notable." As a result, this song is notable because it has been "performed independently by several notable artists". Also, note above the previously deleted images from this article. - SummerPhD (talk) 20:17, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, a closer examination of the two shows that the existing sectin in the target article is virtually identical to the from article. Nothing to merge. It's a simple redirect. I'll briefly await comments before going ahead. - SummerPhD (talk) 20:21, 31 December 2008 (UTC)

text: The Chili Peppers cover of the song fulfills the guidelines, given it has "ranked on national or significant music charts" and there's quite a bit of secondary source material available on it. WesleyDodds (talk) 10:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "Higher Ground" is a popular rock song only because of the Chili Peppers. It is commented upon by numerous music publications (Total Guitar named it the best cover ever) and charted on both the Modern Rock Tracks and Mainstream Rock Tracks charts in '88, as well as various international charts. This song is far deserving of its own article and redirecting it would breach Wikipedia policy. NSR77 T 19:04, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Comparably, Layla was notable on Derek & the Dominoes alone. Clapton's solo ("unplugged") version won the Grammy for Record of the Year. It's a section of the same article. With a Little Help from My Friends, a song by the obscure group "The Beatles" was covered by Joe Cocker, taking it to #1. It's a section of the same article. Ditto his covers of She Came in Through the Bathroom Window, The Letter (song), Cry Me a River and Midnight Rider. All notable without his top ten cover. His top 10 covers are all in the song's article. - SummerPhD (talk) 18:16, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Really notable covers like that could support their own article (except for the "Layla" one, since the same guy is involved and the Dominos were just a back band for him). It's really a matter of if the amount of content for each version supports creating a separate article. I'd say it's definitely worth creating a separate article for Joe Cocker's "With A Little Help From My Friends" cover, given how highly notable it is. WesleyDodds (talk) 09:22, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just wanted to note that Derek and the Dominos were not a backing band - stating otherwise is simply ignorant. I mean, for heaven's sake, Layla is mainly written by Derek and the Dominos' Jim Gordon, not Clapton himself. That is maybe beyond the point but the fact remains that the song in question (Higher Ground) is Stevie Wonder's and simply having an article entitled "Higher Ground (Red Hot Chili Peppers' Song)" reflects poorly on Wikipedia; the point being that it is not their song, but simply a cover (however good said cover is). Let's merge this. Nazionale (talk) 09:17, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge from [[Higher Ground (Red Hot Chili Peppers song)]]

message: I think the two pages need to be merged. There's no reason why we should have separate articles about the same song. It's different from film adaptations of books being separate from the books themselves because they are different mediums. 2 different versions of the same song are the same medium, and even more. FMAFan1990 (talk)
: I can think of several reasons why these two articles should be merged, but the primary reason is that the articles are about "the song" (this article is called "Higher Ground (song)"!!!), not the people who have recorded it, which is actually a by-product of the song. Anybody with an interest in the song will want to see all the information about the song that's available and in one place. If anybody thinks the performers are more important let's merge both articles into the relevant albums and have done with it! --Richhoncho (talk) 23:38, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
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message: I want to know the year of the Toots & The Maytal version, thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.247.111.215 (talk) 18:52, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
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message: Is this a WP:RS:  ? I'm sure that NYT source can also easily be located. Martinevans123 (talk) 08:56, 7 January 2015 (UTC)
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