Talk:FIFA World Cup awards

message: Reason: No need for two articles to cover the exact same information. Chanheigeorge 19:11, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propose merge from [[World Cup Golden Boot]] 

message: I have always heard the award given to the player who scored the most goals at a football world cup referred to as the Golden Boot, however there is a case suggesting that it is properly called the Golden Shoe, as shown on the official FIFA website...
I would be interested to hear any other opinions. Calexico (Talk) 17:52, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess it is called the golden shoe... as evidenced here. Ian Manka Questions? Talk to me! 18:23, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Golden Boot until 1982. Jooler 11:30, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wrong apparently. Jooler 11:30, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Golden Boot or Golden Shoe 

message: Was it first awarded in 1990 (as stated in the introduction) or 1982 (as stated in the section)?  --85.116.207.246 19:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My guess is that the shiny trophy known as the Golden Shoe was officially first awarded in 1982 (when adidas decided to sponsor the award and the Golden Ball). Previously, if you finish as the top goalscorer, you're probably only recognized as the "top goalscorer". But nowadays, FIFA retrospectively recognizes all top goalscorers 1978 and before as a "Golden Shoe winner" , although I doubt they actually got an award in the mail! Maybe we should hunt down Mario Kempes and ask him about it! Chanheigeorge 18:11, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Err, how many players have appeared in the World Cup wearing shoes? And how many were able to overcome that handicap? We should be told! —Ian Spackman 14:21, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I surmise this jocular question is based on interpreting "shoe" as "black leather wingtip" or similar. The fact that the footwear is traditionally referred to in British English as "boots" is a vestige of the Dixie-Dean era when the thick clodhoppers really did cover the ankle.  In the U.S.A they're called "soccer shoes".  In most other languages the equivalent of "shoe", not "boot", is the word.  FIFA regulations talk about "footwear". jnestorius(talk) 15:39, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Golden Shoe Timeline 

message: Now I know it seems like advertising for the specific award to be listed under their commercially sponsored names, but I think for the sake of being accurate they should be.  The official trophy is the Adidas Golden Shoe, it should be listed on here exactly as listed on the FIFA page.  There are certain things on wikipedia that are blatant advertisement, then there are other things, like this, that are not.  Note:  Allianz Arena, RCA Dome, Nextel Cup, etc.  All of these are major commercially sponsored venues or leagues that bare the name of the commercial company that sponsors.  I don't think there is any difference here.  The official name of the NASCAR series is "Nextel Cup" the official name of the trophy given to the player with the most goals is the "Adidas Golden Shoe."  I'll wait for thoughts for a few days then be bold and make the changes myself. balleydancer2005 01:17, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No man, the sponser "adidas" is NOT capitalized. Here is the official page.http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com/06/en/w/gshoe/index.html.Squadoosh 21:27, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  No objection to the sponsor names being included but "Adidas" ought to be capitalized, like any other proper noun, just as it is in the Adidas article.  Adidas's preferred typography is irrelevant to the article: we don't use the company's preferred font, for example. Dricherby (talk) 07:30, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of Gilette, Adidas, etc. 

message: Is there any source on zidane being the winner of 2006 GB?
: There's none. They have not been announced yet. 200.121.41.208 02:22, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Will be announced on Monday.Squadoosh 05:40, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The BBC have now run the story AMe 10:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goldenball 

message: The visitors of the FIFA website have a sense of humour by voting for Portugal as the most entertaining team. Players taking a dive, coach also a good actor, etc.
:And why is this comment necessary?  Regardless of anyone's opinion, the award has been made.  End of story.  --D'Olivier 21:13, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portugal 

message: The official pages for the 2006 WC's Golden Shoe and Golden Ball awards also include silver and bronze awards for second and third; should this information be included as well? Pimlottc 15:10, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely.  I came to this page to start a thread on this point exactly.  You've beaten me to it ;).  Indeed, the ...Ball and ...Shoe/Boot both comprise a "Golden", a "Silver" and a "Bronze" award, and all three receive a statuette in the appropriate color.  Absolutely should be included.  Redux 20:39, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silver/Bronze 

message: The section on tiebreakers doesn't mention when this was introduced.  My recollection of 1994 is that assists were being counted but Salenko and Stoichkov had one each.  Since Stoichkov played more games than Salenko and still shared the award I guess that didn't count then; was it a 2006 innovation along with the silver/bronze awards?  
In fact as I understood it in 1994, assists and goals were to be added into a single total to determine the golden boot, and I was glad that this travesty was not invoked s it turned out.  But I may well have misunderstood... jnestorius(talk) 23:22, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assists and minutes played 

message: Someone recently changed the "silver ball" entry for the 1978 tournament from Paolo Rossi to Rob Rensenbrink. And I remember reading in an Argentine publication that actually Ruud Krol was named second-best player. Which is correct? --ChaChaFut 15:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  1978 "silver ball" - Which is correct? 

message: I dont think Maradona get the Bronz Ball ..--Blain Toddi (talk) 19:51, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bronze Ball 1990 

message: So, the article has concluded that the Best Young Player Award was first rewarded in 2006... before proceeding to list what would appear to be every winner of such a named award since 1930? As an outsider to the process that created this article, some clarification of this supposed paradox would help. I'm not an anorak of these awards - I presume there must have been some confusion between terms like "first formally awarded" and "first instituted" that requires dispelling? MRacer (talk) 15:21, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: On their website FIFA does not seem to recognise any such award before 2006 so I have removed that. Kaizeler (talk) 20:13, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-contradictory "Best Young Player Award" section 

message: I see Golden Boot was redirected here. The list through 2002 can be found here. Enigmamsg 22:08, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, if Golden Boot redirects here, there should really be a list of Golden Boot winners on this page. Tad Lincoln (talk) 22:10, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Golden Boot winners? 

message: On the page, it says that Djalma Santos was on the team in 1954, 1958, and 1962, yet I don't see him on the 1954 team. Is there a problem with the all-star team listing, or that particularly sentence?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.150.191 (talk) 00:46, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  All Star Team 

message: Why haven't the Most Entertaining Team and the All-Star Team been announced for 2010? Velociraptor888 19:18, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The All-Star team has just been announced, with 6 player from the Spanish squad.  If I'm not mistaken, the Most Entertaining Team award receiver is selected through a poll.  Once this poll is closed and the votes are tallied, the result should become available. T.W. (talk) 16:09, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. Thank you. Velociraptor888 16:41, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  More awards for 2010 

message: There are multiple winners listed for golden, silver, bronze boot for many prior years.  However, the FIFA website only notes the top three places for most years.  In 94 and 86 there are four listed, and in 66 and 62 there are 6 listed, but never does it go 19 deep as the table here does for 1962.  FIFA's ordering is odd, as well, usually going by goals and then alphabetically, but 1962 doesn't conform.
Should the table be trimmed to conform to FIFA's listings?
http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/awards/goldenboot/winnergoldshoes.html
--Moretz (talk) 11:35, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly it should, if there's a non-dead link confirming this. --Roentgenium111 (talk) 20:36, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Golden boot multiple winners? 

message: In the current list, only the top three since 1978 is properly sourced with the RSSSF ref. Before that, most have nothing, some a mentioning in a FIFA biography or in a blog.
Moreover, here a different list of winners is shown, with different names, including different winners in 1930, 1954 and 1958.
In their official report, FIFA says nothing about the golden ball until 1982. Are we sure that this list is not original research? If not, what is the source for the current list? If there is no source for the current list, I guess we have to choose to delete the information before 1974, or change it to the list I mentioned above. --EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 07:11, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Golden ball awards 

message: Why is Brazil mentioned as "Most Entertaining Team" at the 2010 World Cup? As far as I know FIFA hasn't awarded that title yet, and the related poll on their website is in favour for Germany. After all, what was so special about this recent Brazilian team? They failed to fulfill high expectations and fired their manager because of that!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.53.82.5 (talk) 17:00, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most Entertaining Team 2010: Brazil? 

message: Given the Golden Ball was not officially awarded until 1982, I propose the table entries before that be deleted. There is some evidence that Kempes was selected by journalists as the best player of the tournament in 1978, but before this the Golden Ball does not appear to have been a concept.Kwib (talk) 01:14, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I made a similar comment in 2010 (see above). The information about Golden Ball before 1978 has been unsourced for more than four years now, time to be bold and remove it.--EdgeNavidad (Talk · Contribs) 21:48, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Golden Ball - delete the table entries pre-1982 

message: "Although the Golden Glove Award was first awarded in 1994, every All-Star Team in World Cups prior to 1998 included only one goalkeeper."
Why "although"? The sentence doesn't make sense.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.115.137.78 (talk) 00:05, 8 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Golden Glove Section 

message: Please not alter the list.Someone take out from the list to Elías Figueroa. This defender was the only South American player in the list of 1974 and the source is FIFA.COMhttp://www.fifa.com/classicfootball/players/player=49415/index.html http://www.fifa.com/classicfootball/players/player=49415/index.html Xdon elias (talk)   — Preceding undated comment added 23:55, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.fifa.com/classicfootball/players/player=49415/index.html Does not indicate that Figueroa made the all-star team. Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:58, 22 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Elias Figueroa on 1974 all star team

message: As of now the golden ball for the World Cup 2014 has not been awarded yet and I daresay it might not go to Chrisiano Ronaldo who's second name is also not Chyase. 2A02:810D:8200:1110:B964:D400:7D30:E237 (talk) 09:24, 12 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Somebody has messed up this article

message: Please change the name Vladimir Putin to Lionel Messi under the 2014 Golden Boot winner, because Messi is the one who won the award 
Mattf94 (talk) 22:48, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Already done  NQ  talk 02:58, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2014 

message: Golden Ball winner is Lionel Messi which is being shown as Vladimir Putin who is the Russian President.
120.59.79.193 (talk) 22:50, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Already done  NQ  talk 02:59, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 July 2014 

message: The addition of an All-Star team for 2014 Brazil is unsourced, and I haven't been able to find any official information on this on fifa.com, nor anywhere else. When/if that information is confirmed, the Castrol index table should probably be removed (or moved to a separate section, including the same information for 2010).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.224.156.3 (talk) 06:32, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  2014 Brazil All-Star Team vs Castrol Index 

message: Please move Arjen Robben into midfield in the all star team as he plays RM 
Accupdate (talk) 17:07, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 July 2014 

message: Is it known why the 2014 Fair Play Award went to Colombia and not Switzerland? FIFA claims that   "The FIFA Fair Play Award will go to the team with the tournament’s best disciplinary record. Only teams that reach the knockout phase are eligible." But Switzerland (and also the U.S.) had fewer yellow cards than Colombia, and also reached the knockout phase.--Roentgenium111 (talk) 20:55, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Colombia had 5 yellow cards in 5 matches and 91 fouls according to FIFA statistics. That's one card per game. Germany had six cards in 7 games and also 91 fouls, and German players did not send any players home with serious back injury. Switzerland had 3 cards in 4 games with 67 fouls committed, that is more fouls per game than Germany but less cards. US had 4 cards in 4	games and 49 fouls committed, that's more cards but less fouls per game than Germany. On the FIFA website some people wrote "Colombia not only won for collecting just five yellow cards in their five matches, but for scoring highly in the criteria set by FIFA’s Technical Study Group, which includes positive play, respect towards the opponent and match officials, as well as the behavior of their team officials and supporters." To me Colombia-Brazil was not a very fair game, the referees just didn't give many yellow cards in this world cup. Sad for those who got injured. Murrerer (talk) 20:55, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Of course Colombia shouldn't just be judged on their last match, but since Colombia had both more cards and (as you say) more fouls than Switzerland and the U.S. (and more cards and fouls per game than Germany), they certainly didn't have the "best disciplinary record" as the FIFA source I gave above would claim. But your quote seems to also come directly from a FIFA website official , so it seems FIFA is inconsistent with itself. Unfortunately, "positive play, respect towards the opponent and match officials, as well as the behavior of their team officials and supporters" is so vague that almost any team could have been deemed the winner based on this. --Roentgenium111 (talk) 13:31, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fair Play 

message: How is the FIFA Dream team 2014 being merged into the FIFA All Star team section? This Dream team was selected by registered users who clearly would share some bias when selecting players. The real all star team is selected by a FIFA Technical Study Group and the closest we have to something like this now is the Castrol index which is a statistical representation of the best players in the world cup. If fifa does not release an All Star Team by its technical group then the Castrol index would be closest technical representation of it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rsamra (talk • contribs) 14:06, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  FIFA Dream Team 2014 is not an All Star team 

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message: now going to runner up.
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thread_title:  golden ball 

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message: Why isn't Zbigniew Boniek credited with joint Bronze Shoe with Zico? He also scored 4 goals, one against Peru and 3 against Belgium. RadTward (talk) 00:07, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  1982 World Cup 

message: I just removed 2 dead links after the Most Entertaining Team 2010 & 2014. Since there's no sources to be find anywhere on the web do we still list Germany and Colombia? 
What about 2018, does anyone have an idea if this award is still being handed out? Dreamian (talk) 10:43, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most Entertaining Team 

message: The close tab thing has gone. It’s all a solid block of text on mobile, please fix 82.34.16.143 (talk) 14:19, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fix the layout 

message: How come the team award list is so very incomplete? Easy check that the total comes to 30, whereas it should be 57. And there are glaringly obvious omissions! 116.193.128.150 (talk) 04:44, 15 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Total awards? 

message: The so-called unofficial all-star team of Italy 1990 seems sketchy and unreliable, backed up by only two source in Dutch. Why would the same journalists choose Maradona as the Bronze Ball and leave him out of the team?
Many other sources identify an altogether different all-star team — mind you, it is always the same team in most other sources. See, e.g.: https://www.squawka.com/en/italia-90-all-star-team-gascoigne-maradona-best-young-player/; https://www.kodromagazine.com/mundial-italia-90#:~:text=El%20once%20ideal%20del%20Mundial,)%2C%20Milla%20(CAM)%2C; https://talksport.com/football/377316/1990-world-cup-all-star-team-who-were-players-voted-best-italy-180523283751/; https://www.kodromagazine.com/mundial-italia-90#:~:text=El%20once%20ideal%20del%20Mundial,)%2C%20Milla%20(CAM)%2C.
Before changing it, I would like to know your thoughts. Pugliese23 (talk) 11:22, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italy 1990 unofficial all-star team seems wrong