Talk:Anton LaVey

message: This is of public interest, therefore I recommend including it into the article:
In LeVay's last wife's book ('The Secret Life of a Satanis, authorized Biografphy') , it's stated that:
'One seminar on "Cannibalism and Human Sacrifice" covered the subject in more than just words. Students were invited to partake of a cooked thigh of a young white woman.The leg had been biopsied and provided by a Berkeley physician who attended Anton's lectures regularly. Diane 
basted the main course of puaka balava, "long pig", in Triple Sec, fruit juices and Grenadine. She served it with fried bananas and yams,
just as the Fiji Islanders did, adding Tonka bean wine and caterpillars to round out the meal. The meat was described as tasting somewhere between pork and lamb, with a consistency rather fibrous like pork chops, but sweeter, and not quite as tender or salty as lamb. The diners exhibited little squeamishness except when it came to eating the caterpillars. But the LaVey's three-year old daughter, 
Zeena, finished them with enthusiasm'. 
Source: https://books.google.de/books?id=sEIxCgAAQBAJ&pg=PA72&lpg=PA72&dq=lavey+cannibalism+human+sacrifice+seminar&source=bl&ots=8CxzfwRCpi&sig=i79XEBChyIADKUvQ5WI_OmgOeMs&hl=de&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiQ6ZbO-pzVAhXBCMAKHanrBqIQ6AEIKzAB#v=onepage&q=lavey%20cannibalism%20human%20sacrifice%20seminar&f=false  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.177.83.238 (talk) 13:23, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Practised Cannibalism

message: In this trivia section it states that marilyn Manson was offered the post of reverand many times but always refused, in the Marilyn Manson page it states that he IS a reverand. Which is correct?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.202.125.146 (talk) 22:19, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Marilyn Manson

message: I was wondering if Anton LaVey ever appeared on the Tonight Show, or any other talk show. If so, is their footage of that interview? I also thought that a list of guests on the Tonight Show would be a good idea for a Wikipedia article.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.181.107.90 (talk) 00:18, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tonight Show appearance 

message: Some of you may notice that the article on LaVeyan Satanism now redirects to Satanism.  This is as it should be, and is a long time coming.  A serious effort is finally underway to clean up the disorder and subpar editing that has for too long characterized this series of articles.  I welcome everyone interested to continue their valued contributions, and to join in the effort to restore sensibility to the representation of Satanism on Wikipedia.  Thank you! -Lvthn13 06:06, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notice 

message: No mention yet of his supposed "appearance" on the cover art of Hotel California - Eagles.  --User:62.252.224.14, 04:26, 23 June 2005
:Urban myth explored here.  —Morning star 06:52, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Is the myth notable enough that it should be addressed? There appear to be so many myths (intentional or natural) about LaVey that they could be organized into a section, or at least a paragraph. -Willmcw 10:23, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? A dead ringer for LaVey, huh? You know, it's a WOMAN on the balcony, right? It's a female model hired for that shoot. As for the lyrics: there is nothing "mystical" or "satanistic" about the song. In fact, its meaning is exactly the same as the more prosaic lyrics of their song, "Life in the Fast Lane."   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.152.178 (talk) 01:42, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hotel California 

message: How come nothing is mentioned of his jewish heritage?  --User:211.30.234.114, 19:27, 23 June 2005
:Because he wasn't. --D.J.B. (User:172.195.68.61), 04:13, 15 July 2005
You're all crazy.  --User:172.196.108.46, 00:40, 18 August 2005
:Lavey mentions in several of his works that he is a "Jew-Gypsy."
::Do you have a source to show this? I only ask so that the rest of us may verify same.150.208.140.13 19:29, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: His maternal grandparents were buried in a Jewish cemetery (https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/237229256/baris-e-coulton). Smamuel123 (talk) 03:01, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't have any WP:SECONDARY sources connecting the pictured gravestone to LaVey. Findagrave is considered unreliable per WP:USERG. Binksternet (talk) 04:08, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jewish heritage? 

message: A false geneaology has been cited for Anton LaVey listed on five accounts on his Wiki page and should be removed for the following reasons: 
1) According to California SS# death records (cross referenced with other family members to find the CORRECT Michael J. Levey), Anton LaVey's father, Michael J. Levey, was not born 30 Oct. 1891. Anton LaVey's father was born November 17, 1903; no notation as to religion was stated; died August 1992. Therefore, the Michael J. Levey listed in this geneaology is false/the wrong person. 
Therefore, all of the following quote from "Biography" on subject's page is utterly false based on mistaken identity of the father: "His father, Michael Joseph Levey, was a liquor distributor from Omaha, Nebraska. His grandfather, Leon Levy, was born in Paris, France and emigrated to the United States in 1886, settling in Douglas County, Nebraska, where he married Louisville-native Emma Goldsmith, who was of German Jewish ancestry, two years later." --INACCURATE
2) Subsequently, all grandparents, great-grandparents, etc. would therefore be utterly inaccurate when the wrong person is listed as father. A major factual error, erroneously written into Anton LaVey's biography.
Accurate citation still needed to support subject's geneaology - i.e., there is no solid, documentation to support LaVey's claim of Jewish descent, save for his and others' claims when adventageous to dispute/dispell LaVey's and his collegues' extremist political views. 
Most families of genuinely orthodox Jewish faith maintain proper geneology charts and records as is necessary to the continuance of the religion, particularly on the mother's side. LaVey's mother is listed as Russian and Ukranian, but not Jewish. LaVey's failure to ever in his lifetime produce geneaology references, religious geneaology, bar-mitzvah documentation, or anything more substantial than an off-the-cuff remark in an interview for shock value, does not bode well for the veracity of the claim.
Got2Bthere (talk) 10:09, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geneaology 

message: praise God  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sharkzilla (talk • contribs) 22:45, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  neutral revisions 

message: Excuse me here, but we are talking about a perverse prick, and what i am reading in this expurgated version is the story of a saint. FAR BELOW WIKIPEDIA STANDARDS. What about satanic rituals, i mean everyone associates that with abuse, cults, evil etc. where the fuck is all that?
Right under the "Satanic Scare of the 1990's" Header.  Don't forget that Wikipedia is a _neutral_ Encyclopedia, not an outlet for religiously slanted blather.
:You need to educate yourself about the subject. Stop equating accusations with fact.
::He was not a perverse prick. He was a genius and you are an idiot.
:::Why is this even being talked about, i'd figure if you can't back up any claims of him being a pervert (subjective, therefore invalid), prick (subjective, therefore invalid), abusive, or evil (subjective, therefore invalid). and if you have any source cited claims about criminal activity (not subjective adjectives and rumors), then mention your source(s) (and their source(s) please).150.208.140.13 19:27, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SuB par article. 

message: This article was uglied-up by not one but two "this article contains weasel words" tags... I looked over it again and don't see any weasel language at all. If anything, it's just the opposite: there are passages that could be tempered with a dose of uncertainty and benefit of the doubt. If anyone else thinks there's weasel talk, discuss it here, or better yet, just fix it. wikipediatrix 00:45, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  weasel words 

message: I've attempted to change all instances where he was named simply as "Anton" instead of either by full name or last name to "LaVey" according to general convention.  To name a major figure by first name only is not commonly accepted practice, in addition to the fact that it was inconsistent within the article.  Naming him by last name or full name should be the norm. -Lvthn13 17:46, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming

message: I've been reading over this biography, amongst the ones of his ex-wife, and supposed seconds wife, and his two daughters.
There are a few things I noticed, not all of those 'facts' added up.
Date of death seems to shift quite a bit, and the cause of death seems various, also that in one of the articles it says that Diane and Anton had never been married, and suddenly they were man and wife for two decades.
I hope you don't take this as a criticism, it's not that at all.
In fact I've always been a fan if you will, of Antons work, read his books as a teenager, and was quite interested in the way he percieved the world around him.
And now, a few years later I stumble across these articles and I'd like to know more.
Does anyone know anything more detailed than "supposed this and that", on the matters that I mentioned above?
I'd deeply appreciate it, if someone could provide that information.
I haven't checked the dates, but LaVey died of congestive heart failure.  He was not legally married to Diane Hegarty, but they did cohabitate for over twenty years.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.164.171.243 (talk) 19:26, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Errors 

message: 71.108.30.54 keeps adding in little phrases were he accuses Marilyn Manson of being the current High Priest of Satanism (which is blatantly false, Marilyn Manson was made a Reverend, though many believe it merely an honorary title), perhaps we need a temporary protection from new or anonymous users if this keeps up.
-Current magus is Peter .H Gilmore,HS!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.129.62.8 (talk) 04:33, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protection needed? 

message: The only people producing material on Anton LaVey, as near as I can tell, are equally divided into those who have something against him (like his daughter) and those who have something to gain from maintaining his reputation. Despite the fact that the linked article is hard to verify, there must be some mention on the page that not everyone accepts LaVey's "official" biographical account of his life at face value. The controversy section wasn't an attack on LaVey (it linked to the CoS refutation of the article it mentioned). --Halloween jack 23:56, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversy

message: This question repeatedly crops up and a batch of cites recently added to support this are below to move towards consensus on this. The reasons I don't think these are  reliable sources is below. It would be best to find a primary source that can prove or disprove that he was in the film...or if this isn't possible to state the uncertainty. Good primary sources outweigh a large number of contradictory yet unreliable sources.
*Primary source (the gold standard for WP:RS)
Film insider denies LaVey's involvement:
Gene Gutowski; William Castle, Step Right Up!
I'm Gonna Scare the Pants off America, New York:
Pharos Books, 1992; Diane LaVey, Michael A. Aquino
(COS, page #17).
*Church of Satan and supporter's cites (qualify as 'partisan and extremist websites' under WP:RS) 
**http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/BOT.html
**http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/LaVeyOccultAmerica.html
**http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html
**http://www.satanic-kindred.org/tribute.htm
**Contradicted by:
**www.churchofsatan.org/aslv.html
*IMDB/rottentomatos cites
**http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/rosemarys_baby/about.php
**Cites stating he had no involvement with film:
**http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0491989/bio (see trivia section...search for 'fiction')
**http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063522/trivia
**http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0491989/
**http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063522/
*Blogs (almost never pass WP:RS)
**http://www.disobey.com/horror/movie_media/rosemarys_baby/index.shtml
**http://home.att.net/~r.s.swartz/rose.html
*Potentially good sources supporting claim...if they base claims on primary sources
**http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/satanism/levey.html
**http://www.religion-cults.com/Occult/Satanism/Satanism.htm
*Potentially good sources denying claim
**http://www.xeper.org/maquino/nm/COS.pdf
**http://www.mail-archive.com/paranormal_stuff@yahoogroups.com/msg00244.html (a blog with some useful info)
*Other
**http://www.mistersf.com/notorious/index.html?notsatan.htm Cites IMDB and doesn't state that this is a fact so 3rd hand information.
Does anyone know where I can find a biography (and page number would help) or official interview in which LaVey, himself, makes such a claim? 
I've read through the sources and here are my discoveries:
*With -
**http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/BOT.html 
**http://www.churchofsatan.com/Pages/LaVeyOccultAmerica.html 
**http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html
:Anton LaVey, himself, does not make this claim, the gentlemen interviewing him makes that statement in the introduction (not during the interview, Anton LaVey would have no chance to contradict)
*With - 
**http://www.satanic-kindred.org/tribute.htm 
**http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/rosemarys_baby/about.php
**http://www.disobey.com/horror/movie_media/rosemarys_baby/index.shtml
**http://home.att.net/~r.s.swartz/rose.html
**http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/satanism/levey.html
**http://www.religion-cults.com/Occult/Satanism/Satanism.htm
:No primary sources are mentioned at all!
*However, The following sources have either the credential or primary sources to make such a claim, but they deny his involvement:
**Gene Gutowski; William Castle, Step Right Up! I'm Gonna Scare the Pants off America, New York: Pharos Books, 1992 (William Castle was the producer of the film)
**Michael A. Aquino (COS, page #17)  (Michael A. Aquino was a member of the Church of Satan and therefore has an undisputed (to my knowledge) connection to LaVey)
*The following have only those mentioned above as sources:
**http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063522/trivia
**http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0491989/
**http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0063522/
**www.churchofsatan.org/aslv.html (however this article claims that LaVey actually made the claim yet does not cite it's source for such knowledge) 
(List of links by Antonrojo up until "Does anyone know..." where rest was added by AlexanderLevian) 03:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess I wasn't clear. I agree that the cites don't support the claim. I'm adding them because I think this is a fair characterization of the cites I see linked to the claim (e.g. see the 'filmography' claim that I just removed). Antonrojo 03:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: La Vey involved in Rosemary's Baby production?

message: Anyone know if Jess Lavey is actually the son of Anton Lavey?  this site claims that Jess, born Anthony Jai Lavey, is Anton's son who was born into the Church of Satan but left and became a christian preacher, denouncing both the Church of Satan and his father. Anton's supporters claim that this is not his son. I'm not sure if this is something that should be placed in the controversy section.
This is hardly worth note. His claims just aren't verifiable. His picture with his "father" looked like a bad photoshop job. He used "Black Pope" in his interviews like it was an actual title within the Church of Satan, when that was simply a title given by the media. None of the other LaVey children mention another son, which would have been particularly damning (I'm sure it would have been a big point with Zeena Shreck's "Myth and Reality" article). On his "birth certificate" that he offers, it states that the date is 1968, yet Anton's age is recorded as 49. Which is off by at least ten years. Anton LaVey's birthplace is listed as in Germany. Plus the claims of the "Mother" Church of Satan that Jess was "born" at. No such thing has ever been recorded by ANYBODY. Its stupid. Another Michelle Remembers.64.5.145.74 13:57, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know if this helps the person who started this thread (or if this counts as a third-party source, as it seems to be a christian magazine) but there's a news story at the link provided below that seems to discredit him.
http://www.charismamag.com/display.php?id=6348 (Nimue the mighty 19:00, 24 June 2007 (UTC)

text: It's also worth noting he claimed that both George Bushes participated in 'devil worshipping rituals' which 'Anton forced him into'  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dark Prime (talk • contribs) 20:01, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jess Lavey 

message: This photo is a bit dark. Are there any lighter ones out there? A smile would be nice. ;) Kansaikiwi 10:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  the photo 

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message: "... Satan Xerxes Carnacki LaVey, born November 1, 1993. She succeeded herself as the head of the Church ...", the article states. How on earth/heaven/hell did she succeed herself? Alpheus (talk) 16:03, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: she's just that talented? lol i think the person made a mistake saying "She succeeded him as head of the church." Sajfer pfenix (talk) 20:00, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Succeeded herself?

message: "Satan Xerxes Carnacki LaVey (1993) - Only son of Anton and Blanche. He is also a standing member of the Church of Satan, and is widely regarded by most Satanists as a immensely powerful child. At only thirteen, he already takes part in, and in some cases, leads many rituals and lectures. He is 100% likely to be the next High Priest of the Church of Satan when the time comes."
This needs to be verified.  Given the strigency of the Church of Satan when it comes to enforcing policy, I doubt that a 15 year old would be allowed to join, even if that child were LaVey's son, considering the age requirement is 18.  I'd like to see a statement by Magistra Barton, Magus Gilmore or Magistra Nadramia, or another reputable source on the status of LaVey's son and his involvement within the CoS.  The last statement looks especially fabricated.  76.228.118.32 (talk) 06:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verification 

message: I've read LaVey's biographies and many articles about him but this page is the first time I've read that he lived in Globe, Arizona.  What is the source for this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.215.200.194 (talk) 23:57, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Globe, Arizona 

message: I would really appreciate if anyone could add the pronunciation of his name to the article, with sound example, specially his middle name that I can't read at all. I'm sure it's difficult to most readers too.
If sound clip is impossible, an IPA sample would be welcome.
Thanks in advance.
Ali Nazifpour (talk) 15:53, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume the source of the trouble is the sz digraph.  I believe this to be pronounced as a Z with a very brief sibilant lead-in.  In IPA this may be written as ʃ̻z, but I can never tell with IPA. —chaos5023 (talk) 23:19, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation, specially his middle name 

message: Greetings. this has been difficult, but I have had to follow certain criteria for certain reasons. I read the Bunco sheet at the Church of Satan website, and it's such a great piece of literature, but, for some reason, I had to go to the Wicca people (before I read). I am Lucifer, angel/man. Tried to explain, and went to great detail about my situation, and how things are arranged. Law offices and others wouldn't do anything, even after I explained anomalous and undeniable occurances that have taken place.75.201.240.80 (talk) 17:46, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I see this as potentially of interest to those editing the article, so I'm not summarily deleting it, although I would accept it if an established editor took a different position.  But, could the anon explain what this is supposed to be, and what it has to do with the article.  — Arthur Rubin  (talk) 19:24, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wicca 

message: Whenever this article grows a pop culture references section or sub-article, let us not forget that the Korova Milk Bar, formerly of New York's Alphabet City, has an alcoholic milkshake specialty drink called a Moloko Anton LaVey, ingredient list "Root Beer Schnapps, White Cream de Cocoa, 								Chocolate Syrup and Ice Cream". —chaos5023 (talk) 23:22, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Moloko Anton Lavey

message: Someone changed it to Jan 22, which it isn't his real death was oct.29.96 i do believe..  Tried to revert but it didn't work.  Can someone who knows what they're doing please repair this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.22.172.10 (talk) 06:13, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of Death 

message: Maybe it should be added that LaVey's Church of Satanism is more or less overglorified Atheism? Zeena has said this several times, once on a Geraldo special called "Satan's Underground Exposed". Maybe she is biased since she is now a member of the Temple of Set, but she is right. LaVey Satanism has no deity to worship, other than oneself. Then again, this could be a completely ridiculous talk subject. Just a suggestion, if anyone agrees, would you please add it to the article? Sajfer pfenix (talk) 20:04, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: LaVey called his brand of Satanism for Ayn Rand/Objectivism with rituals. He did not know of Ayn Rand when he started the COS, if I remember.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.253.73.146 (talk) 15:54, 5 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overglorified Atheism? 

message: Someone added a bit at the end of the "death" section claiming LaVey made a deathbed conversion.  The supplied reference just linked to a YouTube video assembled out of clips of a some commentators talking about an unnamed "famous occultist" who supposedly recanted on his death bed. Highly dubious reference, and no other verification, so I'm removing it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.37.64.130 (talk) 14:59, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Deathbed Conversion" 

message: Considering the amounts of vandalism this article seems to get as well as the issues with unsourced material being added perhaps it would be wise to make it at least semi-protected? I admit to not fully knowing wikipedia's rule on protecting an article but to be quite honest, I'm surprised to see such a controversial and polarizing figure such as he having an article open to editing by anyone, including bratty kids and overzealous religious types. 174.49.19.28 (talk) 20:18, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  maybe locking this article is needed 

message: I just want to become a satanist and i dont no who to contact and how???? but i just wanna mixed up peoples live who hurt me in life.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tiera laura (talk • contribs) 14:12, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  REQUEST 

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message: At the end of Church of Satan, I changed "founded by the elite mastermind, Michael Aquino" to "founded by Michael Aquino". I'm willing to entertain objective proof that Aquino has ever been "elite" or particularly mastermindful, as much as I like his writings.
This entire section suffers from poor sourcing, much hand-waving, and blatant redundacy -- see "excerpts from Ragnar Redbeard's Might Is Right and concluded with "Satanized" versions of John Dee's Enochian Keys". Weeb Dingle (talk) 21:27, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
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message: Most reviewers take the viewpoint of Blanche Barton who wrote in 1990's The Secret Life of a Satanist that LaVey's only connection to Jewish heritage was one great-grandmother. This great-grandmother married a "gypsy" man in Transylvania and bore a daughter named Luba Lupesku-Primakov, later known as Luba Kolton—LaVey's maternal grandmother. So the Jewish connection is too small, too distant to mention. His grandparents and parents were not Jewish, and LaVey was not raised Jewish. Binksternet (talk) 19:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Weelll... according to Judaic law, being Jewish is inherited via the maternal line, so, "too small, too distant" is exactly wrong in this case. , on the other hand, is more relevant. But since all this is WP:OR, the real question is: do we have a reliable source that calls him Jewish? If not, let's forget it. An IP gave a Twitter source above, but that's worthless. --Hob Gadling (talk) 18:28, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

text: But not from LaVey. And The Church of Satan is not the one with the Jewish ancestor. You know what "self" means? --Hob Gadling (talk) 10:04, 23 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not Jewish 

message: How reliable is the aforementioned book about his life? --192.231.40.122 (talk) 17:34, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reliability of The Secret Life of a Satanist 

message: Why isn't the full name of this article, "Anton Szandor LaVey", or could we make it that? And then just have "Anton LaVey" be a redirect of course? — Moops ⋠T⋡ 18:40, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Full name for title 

message: Anybody know what religion (if any) he was raised in? That seems significant. --Dawud  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:B011:9:3DF1:E12A:EC4F:7D4C:2D7 (talk) 22:43, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Childhood religion?

message: I collected some interesting quotes that would indicate LaVey indeed was a theist, that would confirm the belief of Aquino's people that claim that LaVey was a theist that didn't want to push theism publicly so he could get more money:
“The Satanic Bible states that the magician should treat the entities he calls upon as friends and companions, for even an "impersonal" device will respond better to a conscientious and respectful user. This principle is accurate for operating automobiles and power tools, as well as demons and elementals.”
Page 24, Satanic Rituals © 1972 by Anton LaVey
“An indication of the cowardice of "magicians" of the right-hand path is the practice of calling upon a particular demon (who would supposedly be a minion of the devil) to do his bidding. The assumption is that the demon, being only a flunky of the devil, is easier to control. Occult lore states that only the most formidably "protected" or insanely foolhardy sorcerer would try to call forth the Devil himself. The Satanist does not furtively call upon these "lesser" devils, but brazenly invokes those who people that infernal army of long-standing outrage - the Devils themselves!”
Page 57, The Satanic Bible © 1969 by Anton Szandor LaVey
“In the name of all who suffered and died as agents of the Devil in ages past, the present band of heretics—those who would deny the Devil, yet play his game— must be called to task”
“And what do they do , now that it is safe and clear to use His Great Infernal Name? They deny Him!”
—Anton Szandor LaVey The Devil’s Notebook, page 33
“The difference between prayer and magic can be compared to the difference between applying for a loan and writing out a blank check for a desired amount. A man applying for a loan (prayer) may have nothing but a job as collateral and must keep working and pay interest, should the loan be granted. Otherwise he will wind up with bad credit (purgatory). The man (magician) who writes the desired amount on the blank check, assumes there will be delivery of the merchandise, and he pays no interest. He is indeed fortunate—but he had better have sufficient funds (magical qualities) to cover the amount written, or he may wind up in far worse straits, and have his creditors (demons) out looking for him.”
Page 20, bottom paragraph, Satanic Rituals © 1972 by Anton LaVey
“If one is truly good inside he can call the names of the Gods of the Abyss with freedom from guilt and immunity from harm. The resultant feeling will be most gratifying. But there is no turning back. Here are the Rites of Lucifer ... for those who dare remove their mantles of self-righteousness.”
Anton Szandor LaVey Page 14, Satanic Rituals © 1972 by Anton LaVey
“As to the pronunciation of the names involved (despite some occultists who insist, "You can't expect help from the forces you call upon if you can't pronounce their names right,"), assume that the forces, demons, or elementals have enough 5 insight to judge a caller's worthiness on more profound criteria than his glib tongue or expensive shoes.”
Page 22, Satanic Rituals © 1972 by Anton LaVey
“The Devil has been attacked by the men of God relentlessly and without reservation. Never has there been an opportunity, short of fiction, for the Dark Prince to speak out in the same manner as the spokesmen of the Lord of the Righteous.”
Page 29 of The Satanic Bible © 1969 by Anton Szandor LaVey
“For all the centuries of shouting-down the Devil has received, he has never shouted back at his detractors. He has remained the gentleman at all times, while those he supports rant and rave. He has shown himself to be a model of deportment, but now he feels it is time to shout back. He has decided it is finally time to receive his due.”
“Oh great brothers of the night, thou who makest my place of comfort, who rideth out upon the hot winds of Hell, who dwelleth in the devil's fane; Move and appear! Present yourselves to him (her) who sustaineth the rottenness of the mind that moves the gibbering mouth that mocks the just and strong!; rend that gaggling tongue and close his (her) throat, Oh Kali! Pierce his (her) lungs with the stings of scorpions, Oh Sekhmet! Plunge his (her) substance into the dismal void, Oh mighty Dagon!”
Pages 149-150, The Satanic Bible © 1969 by Anton Szandor LaVey
“Oh great lurkers in the darkness, oh guardians of the way, oh minions of the might of Thoth! Move and appear! Present yourselves to us in your benign power, in behalf of one who believes and is stricken with torment. Isolate him (her) in the bulwark of your protection, for he (she) is undeserving of anguish and desires it not…”
Page 151, The Satanic Bible © 1969 by Anton Szandor LaVey
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Blanche Barton who was LaVey’s secretary and live-in girlfriend and mother of his child wrote some pretty interesting things:
The Secret Life of a Satanist: The Authorized Biography of Anton LaVey” © 1990, 1992 by Blanche Barton:
Page 16, bottom of the page: “Hadn’t anyone called forth the demons before as their friends? I thought they surely had.”
Jayne Mansfield’s six-year-old son Zoltan was attacked by a lion at a zoo. Here is what Barton writes:
Page 98: “Now as he held his cape out like great leathery wings against the raging wind, the rain beat hard on his face, and, summoning all the power within himself, LaVey called upon his brother Satan to spare Zoltan’s life. In remarkable time, Zoltan recovered form his wounds.”
The Church of Satan © 1990, by Blanche Barton:
Page 93: "LaVey didn’t want to stand inside a feeble, chalk-drawn circle, summoning these whirling forces in the name of “Jehovah” and flailing the sign of the Cross in the air to protect himself. His magickal instincts told him that, if he wanted to entreat the Dark Ones to carry out his wishes, he’d best call upon them boldly, with conviction, as friends and companions, not quivering in their unholy presence.”
Page 97: “We don’t have to kill our God: we don’t wear the instrument of his agony and death around our necks.”
Page 103:
“When you’re faced with that decision, with that piece of paper in front of you, declaring your allegiance to Satan for all eternity, renouncing God, Jesus Christ, Heaven and redemption, you may find suddenly that you don’t want to go through with it. That’s good. You should find out. If you do want to align yourself with those forces completely, and you know there is no turning back, you know you can pursue the delights of the flesh without repression. “
Page 104:
“It is also dangerous for people who take part of the philosophy and try to ignore the rest; adopt the liberation without taking responsibility. Or using Satan’s tools to gain material wealth, then not giving homage to the Devil in some small way, in some dark subterranean grotto somewhere. Some of the most powerful men and women in history have freely given that homage, where no one would ever suspect, let alone discover. And their wealth and happiness increased beyond reckoning. But you have to take responsibility for your actions. As has been said, nobody rides for free.”
Page 109:
“If you have nothing in particular you want to perform a ritual for, its perfectly understandable you may feel a strong need to ritualize but don’t actually know why. If that’s the case, develop your own kind of Dedication Ritual, to renew and reaffirm your strength and alignment. Open the ritual as instructed, then instead of reading one of the three suggested invocations, speak your mind freely. in speaking directly to Satan himself, you may discover what is in your subconscious that you can’t quite bring to the surface. Express appreciation for the direction you have received from the Dark Lord and ask that he continue to guide you to further increase your earthly power - - you might want to write out part of your Dedication ahead of time, to spur your thoughts once you’re in the chamber. Ask that he bestow ever-increasing wisdom and perspective so that you can carry out your Dark Will on the Earth. Instruct the demons you name to manifest themselves to you by increasing your earthly pleasures.”
Page 110:
"Keep yourself constantly aware of instructional coincidences, open to the demons who will whisper in your ear. An old meaning of demon used to be ‘muse’ - - a guiding, inspirational spirit. You will get guiding signs if you only make yourself sensitive to them.”
Page 111:
“Our standards, Satan’s standards, remain consistently high.”
Also, this is archived from CoS's official website (http://web.archive.org/web/20050301035159/http://www.churchofsatan.com/home.html) (go to "Theory-Practice", then to "Policy Statements" and click on "Satanic Youth Communique")
"Don’t be disturbed or frightened or think you’re crazy when you feel contacted by the Dark Ones you conjure forth, or by the magical results you begin to produce. You’re not crazy for feeling the way you do about the hypocrisy, blindness and incompetence you see all around you. Nor are you crazy to see the results of your Black Magic. Approach the Dark Masters with the proper degree of respect and decorum—that’s what rituals are for, to establish a relationship. If you approach the demons respectfully, they will reward you with knowledge, guidance, and success. Your demon guide is within you—don’t look for it outside. You just have to contact that part of yourself and listen to it. That is the most important work anyone can do." Gjergj333 (talk) 15:29, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  LaVey's Theism? 

message: https://twitter.com/ChurchofSatan/status/1719879437133684761 ShobanChiddarth (talk) 07:09, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
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