Talk:Black Mountain Side

message: I've got a book called "The Songs and Guitar Solos of Bert Jansch" and, although it was written by Doug Kennedy, it looks like Jansch had some input into it and wrote some notes for each of the songs. The transcriptions seem pretty authentic, although Blackwaterside is quite difficult to play, even with all the notes written out! Anyway, Blackwaterside is written as "6th to D" (and capo on the 4th), not DADGAD. Page undoubtedly uses DADGAD however. Nevertheless, Jansch's notes say:
:I learnt this song originally from Anne Briggs. It's another of these seduction songs. The 'Irish Lad' is a sailor, or he may be a tinker. The accompaniment was nicked by a well-known member of one of the most famous rock bands, who used it, unchanged, on one of their records. Bluewave 16:48, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I really think that Black Water Side deserves its own article instead of a redirect. For no other reason than it is the original song, has been covered by more musicians and is the true "source" that should be referred to. The discussion of similarities and controversy here is certainly warranted here but as it is the original song is not getting its fair credit.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.120.161.6 (talk) 10:29, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point....as long as we don't lose the fact that Page nicked Black Mountain Side virtually note for note from the Jansch guitar accompaniment to Blackwaterside (probably via the playing of Al Stewart). Bluewave (talk) 18:18, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Jansch's version

message: Liam Clancy, of The Clancy Brothers, and Sandy Denny of Fairport Convention have also recorded versions of this song, around the same time as Page (Denny on The North Star Grassman, recorded 1971, and Clancy in various collections. He copyrighted his adaptation, in 3/4 time, with the title "Blackwater Side" in 1967.
--Carsonmac 01:59, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other versions of Black Mountain Side  

message: Is page playing an acoustic guitar on the original recording? Is it a 12-string? Badagnani (talk) 00:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: it's a Gibson J-200
There's no 12-string guitar on this song?? Badagnani (talk) 18:17, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Instrument 

message: Is it noteworthy that this is the only song to appear on three albums, two of which were studio albums?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.247.244.120 (talk) 00:42, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Outside of compilations I believe it only appeared on Led Zeppelin I.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.120.161.6 (talk) 10:27, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three Albums 

message: A section that I wrote has recently been removed on the grounds that it is supposedly a "blatant copyvio". I have restored it on the grounds that it isn't. The section is certainly based on the very well researched (and much longer) account in the Harper book, but I did not copy Harper's words, except for the direct quote from Anne Briggs. Quoting a small section, with citations is perfectly normal practice for an encyclopedia or any scholarly work. So is summarising someone else's work in my own words (again with citations to the original). Bluewave (talk) 11:10, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible copyvio from Harper book

message: Joan Baez recorded this in the early 1960s.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.132.13.23 (talk) 03:03, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joan Baez recorded this in the early 1960's