Talk:Yamaha VMAX

message: I remember Motorcyclist magazine having a big, history-filled article about the V-Max for its 20th anniversary.  I think I have that issue; I'll try to find it.
Meanwhile, I am shocked at how little info on the V-Max was here when I found the article (i.e. even less than the pittance that is here now).  The article was redirected from one spelling error (Vmax) to another (VMax).
Can anyone find a citable source about how and why John Reed (I think that was his name) designed this bike from the Venture platform?  Maybe a technical explanation of V-Boost?  The reason why European V-Maxs didn't have V-Boost at first?  Respectfully, SamBlob 23:37, 15 January 2007 (UTC)

message: An entry has been made by User:67.142.130.34 stating the following:
john reed says: Ed Burke designed a lot of bikes for Yamaha including the V-max and the Virago.I did not do any work on the V-max But I prototyped the Virago based on sketches and directions from Ed
But I prototyped the Virago based on sketches and directions from Ed (Edit: I forgot about this part of it. Respectfully, SamBlob )
I am going to remove this from the article and will continue to do so until a documented source for this statement is provided.  If the statement happens to be true, could someone please supply a verifiable source that documents this? Respectfully, SamBlob 03:41, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: "john reed says: ..." 

message: Does anyone out there have a V-Max they can photograph and add to Wikimedia Commons, so that we may have a photo for this article?  Maybe you can take a photo of someone else's V-Max? Thanks in advance. Respectfully, SamBlob (talk) 14:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  V-Max photo 

message: I added descriptions of the operation of V-Boost and YCC-I/YCC-T. The V-Boost info comes from the service manual and parts fiches. The YCC-I/YCC-T info comes from current Yamaha sales propaganda. I hope it meats your standards. S Bumgardner (talk) 17:13, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  V-Boost and YCC-I/YCC-T 

message: I dislike the title, I dislike having two infoboxes in the article. Given that both bikes are so different I would like to propose that we split the article into Yamaha V-Max and Yamaha VMAX with the obvious cross-links in both articles. BMW's boxer twin GS bikes (BMW R1100GS, BMW R1150GS, and BMW R1200GS) all have unique articles and in some cases (1100 vs 1150) the differences are not as significant as they are between the V-Max and VMAX. Opinions? --Biker Biker (talk) 17:12, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I prefer to keep models that fill the same niche in a lineup on the same page, because the story of how a model evolves over time makes more sense when told in a single telling. I wouldn't want two, three or four separate pages for the Kawasaki Ninja 250 just because the early and late versions share few or no parts. I like how Honda CB900F connects two totally different bikes because of the role the two bikes play. I think encyclopedia articles like these should take the long view and try to show the big picture and illustrate how technology changes over time. If you break the pages up, the story can't be easily followed because it's too scattered.<P>The infobox issue is a symptom of a Wikipedia technical problem. Because of the formatting limitations of how infoboxes present the data, you are forced to fall back on a specs table. One solution is to begin the article with a nearly-empty infobox, as in Ninja 250R, Honda Magna and Suzuki Hayabusa, then repeat the infobox for each sub-model. All of these are poor compromises until we can figure out how to make the Infobox motorcycle display sub-models and yearly revisions in a clean way. Probably horizontal scrolling or some kind of left to right page flipping. --Dbratland (talk) 18:27, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

text: Also, one solution for the article title would be to rename it to Yamaha VMX or Yamaha VMX series, since the model codes for all years start with VMX:<P>2010	VMX17ZR2009	VMX17YB	2007	VMX12W12006	VMX12V2005	VMX12T2004	VMX1200S2003	VMX1200R2002	VMX1200P2001	VMX1200N2000	VMX1200M1999	VMX1200L1998	VMX1200K--Dbratland (talk) 19:24, 8 July 2010 (UTC)

text: Agree to split. These are two different motorcycles.  Apart from the name, there is no continuity as there is with models like the Harley-Davidson Sportster or even the Honda CB750. Were this a car, the article would have been split already, like the articles on the BMW 3 Series or the Porsche 911. Sincerely, SamBlob (talk) 23:50, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article split proposed