Talk:Massoud Rajavi

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message: Iskandar323, I reverted your edit on the basis of WP:NPOV and WP:CHERRYPICK, so do not reinstate it unless the issue has first been resolved in the talk page (see WP:ONUS). The marriage between Maryam and Massoud is already mentioned in this article. There is a detailed section about the MEK going through the ideological revolution in the MEK article. If you’re interested in expanding that information, that’s the section (and article) where to do it (I will expand that section further shortly). Cherrypicking one aspect of the ideological revolution and putting it in this article would be a WP:NPOV fail. Also adding all of the aspects of the ideological revolution to this article would be irrelevant since this is mainly about the MEK (which is where the detailed information about this is already mentioned). Fad Ariff (talk) 13:01, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @Fad Ariff: Ok, so you didn't like the information in the reliable source - what does that have to do with WP:NPOV? If you think there is contrasting information in other reliable sources, why aren't you adding that? WP:NPOV requires fairly representing alternative views, but you are not adding alternative views or even stating what these alternative views are; you are just deleting reliably sourced content. To claim that material is cherrypicked or not NPOV, you have to actually present what information you think is being missed, which you have not done in the slightest. Iskandar323 (talk) 19:17, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You changed the title from "Ideological revolution" to "Marriage information". That is a misrepresentation of the issue since the new information you were trying to add was about the MEK’s "ideological revolution". If you want to add information about the MEK’s ideological revolution (which Massoud’s marriage to Maryam Rajavi was only a small part of), then the section "Ideological revolution and women's rights" deals with that in context. We could move that section to this article so that the information is in context, but that would create an WP:UNDUE section within this article, so keeping it in the MEK article is just better editing. Fad Ariff (talk) 13:19, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I want to add the reliably sourced content that I added. Here the marriage to Maryam Rajavi is mentioned, but the well-documented political nature of the union is not mentioned, nor is the fact that it required Maryam Rajavi to divorce her existing husband. The material that I added made no mention of any "ideological revolution"; it noted that the divorce of Maryam Rajavi from Mehdi Abrishamchi and her remarriage to Massoud Abrishamchi was justified on the basis of "revolutionary necessity". Divorce for politics is unusual, hence the interest. Iskandar323 (talk) 17:17, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Iskandar323, the reliability of the source is not in question. Read the section "Ideological revolution and Women’s Rights" (located in a page you're very familiar with), and you will see that what you are mentioning is about the MEK's "Ideological revolution". I already said a few times that I reverted you because of WP:CHERRYPICKING (or WP:PLAYPOLICY?), WP:NPOV, and WP:ONUS () Since I already started a RFC about this same content you are trying to add in a different article , then you could now request input from new users through the RFC consensus process for this article here. Fad Ariff (talk) 13:11, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Marriage information

message: @Fad Ariff  You seem to have deleted  very old messages, some of them seem to be decade old or so.  Why not archive then just deleting which might seem subjective to some other users?
One side note: @Fad Ariff & @Iskandar323  both of you seem to be well aware of dispute resolution mechanism including ARE working etc. Continuous slow edit warring too will get noticed at some point of time, why not deescalate a little bit and wait for inputs from new set of users and proper RFC consensus process.  Bookku    (talk) 13:48, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Bookku, yes, I hear you, and I agree about deescalating and using RFC consensus processes. About archiving old messages, I don't know how to do that, otherwise that seems like a better solution. How is that done? Fad Ariff (talk) 13:21, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archiving of the talk page 

message: : Could you elaborate on your reason for this revert ? You dismissed the changes as simply , but it is not self-evident why these changes would be deemed as unconstructive. MarioGom (talk) 17:59, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I too would like to know what is not constructive and why you are following the same pattern of edits as a blocked disruptive user. As mentioned on Talk:Maryam Rajavi, this is pretty basic biographical information. I fail to see a possible objection. Iskandar323 (talk) 18:45, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The change  is being observed in the MR page. Relating to  in the lead, Iskandar323 please elaborate why you are seeking to change this. ParadaJulio (talk) 15:05, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Because it's obvious, true and sourced. What's the issue? "Massoud disappeared in 2003, believed dead." (Conflict in the Modern Middle East: An Encyclopedia of Civil War, Revolutions, and Regime Change. 2020. P.209) Iskandar323 (talk) 19:04, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: What was in the article (prior to your changes) wasn't "obvious, true, and sourced"? A similar analysis has apparently already been done. ParadaJulio (talk) 14:20, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert by ParadaJulio