Talk:Rupert Sheldrake

message: @Hipal, other interested, hello. About . What counts as press/media org in this day and age is a bit of a grey area, reasonable people can disagree. My view per  is that the item  fits the talkpage template well enough. The addition does not indicate "this is a WP:RS", or "WP supports this coverage", just "this coverage exists". Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 17:50, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: What use is it to improving this article? --Hipal (talk) 18:22, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Re. Template:Press: "Oftentimes, the purpose of this is to contextualize talk page discussions about ongoing coverage of editorial disputes, and press coverage listed here may come from sources otherwise considered unreliable." Esowteric + Talk + Breadcrumbs 18:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Like all such templates, possibly none at all. It's very discreet, for one thing. My general opinion is that this is an interesting template to have on talkpages when content is available, and if it contains stuff I disagree with that is fine (that is the nature of "media") and sometimes it even adds a bit of interest. It has some potential value for editors to know what kind of coverage is out there, and the stuff in them may inspire good edits, warn of something (and explain a recent view-spike) or make someone think "Cool, someone noticed the article I was working on." For me, that is enough. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 18:30, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The larger utility is that it provides background to poorly-worded posts here from new editors and IPs. If we've been warned that a media item has discussed this article, then we know what to expect. There is no assertion that the media object is a reliable source and, I suppose, some might post that here just to get curiosity clicks to those external websites. I take  as a warning. Chris Troutman (talk) 18:53, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: "Warning" is fairly often the case, see for example Talk:Recession. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 19:25, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: We appear to already have so many notices and warnings on this talk page that I doubt the people who should read them will do so. I don't see the need to give voice to people who are stirring up the regular problems we have here. --Hipal (talk) 20:13, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Fwiw, I didn't put the thing there with the purpose of promotion or to carry out an ideological battle. Excluding items like this appears to me as bowdlerization, these templates are not restricted to "WP-nice" content. In my view the issue is mostly one of personal taste (that essay is an essay, btw). The amount of voice given by this template is small:. Consensus will be what it will be. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 21:16, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Apologies if I wrote anything that might indicate that your intentions are an issue. I'm assuming good faith here. I'm happy to refactor. --Hipal (talk) 22:03, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Meh, no biggie. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 22:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)

text: My thinking would be along the same lines as Gråbergs Gråa Sång here, insofar as if there's been media on the article we should use the template to make editors aware of it. Whether it is reliable or not is irrelevant because the question is not about putting story into the article as a reference. TarnishedPathtalk 10:25, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talkpage "This article has been mentioned by a media organization:" BRD