Talk:Tiny Tim (musician)

message: I'm going to go with 1932 for his birthdate, though there is some disagreement about the matter (see  "Tiny Tim had recently said that he was born April 12, 1932, making him 64, although over the years  he had sometimes fibbed about his age"). I've seen 1922, 1930 and 1933 all given, but I think we should stick with what Tim himself said last unless some fresh evidence comes to light. --Camembert
[The following 5 'graphs, including pseudo-sig, moved here by me, from under the == Dickens == hdg where an IP's edit left them. --Jerzy (t) 23:43, 2005 Mar 21 (UTC)]
 
Regarding the uncertainty of Tiny Tim's age, writer William Poundstone, of the "Big Secrets" series of books, flatly states the following in the third book ("Biggest Secrets"): 
"He was actually born Herbert Buckingham Khaury in New York City on April 12, 1923. Tim was 46, claiming to be 37, in 1969."
For what it's worth, I personally regard Poundstone as generally trustworthy on these matters; in the abovementioned book he precedes his litany of celebrities' real ages with an informative subchapter titled "How to find out anyone's age," discussing the searching of public records, old school yearbooks, etc.
He does not, however, specify exactly how he arrived at a 1943 birthdate for Tiny Tim, and indeed notes that "The New York City Department of Health is a real stickler" regarding the information required for a complete search.
-Tim Harrod
He was born in 1932, just look at the passport and birth certificate here: http://www.tinytim.org/effects.html Blogbourri 22:47, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  DOB 

message: Under the analysis section, there is a comment about him saying he asked his wife to give up her job because he felt it was not her place to work (Paraphrasing here). It is marked with a citation needed.  I found the source   but the source seems to be of questionable veracity.  I think the quote should probably be removed. It seems more like a post-mortem flaming. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Palehorse864 (talk • contribs) 03:45, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Analysis

message: The page has been vandalised a couple of times today by user User:Eock... I've reverted twice.  --Starwed 08:40, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Cut from intro:
:He was derisively referred to as the master of the disturbing.
Who said this? When? And does anyone have a web link or title and page from a magazine or book? --Uncle Ed 13:50, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Source of derisive comment

message: The "Rise to prominence in the 1960s" section contained some words which were bias, eg. "Sadly, Tiny and Miss Vicki mostly lived apart and divorced eight years later." with the biased word being 'Sadly'. I have removed these words as I felt they were too POV. I am still a relatively new user and am not completely familiar with Wikipedia's policies and guidelines, so if my removal is not appropraite, please notify me and feel free to revert. Thanks. -- Dave 06:01, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: Is that line about the dead babies vandalism?  It's totally unexplained and seems unlikely.
*It was slipped in there by a-none earlier today. It be GONE. Wahkeenah 00:50, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead babies? 

message: Nearly the entire "Analysis" section appears to be original research. The entire concept of analysis appearing in Wikipedia violates the no original research principle. I will remove the section, assuming no one produces valid references for the content contained therein. --Bk0 (Talk) 03:13, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Analysis" section original research 

message: I don't understand this section -- is he singing the three parts, or are Billy and Ada? This could be more clear.
I agree. I also stumbled at that part. --JonValkenberg (talk) 04:56, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  On the Old Front Porch 

message: Okay, this article has Tiny Tim getting divorced by Miss Vicky, and then no mention of any remarriage yet him conversing with his wife just before his death.  Anybody see a problem here?
#Victoria Mae Budinger (17 December 1969 – 1977) (divorced) 1 child
#Jan Alweiss (26 June 1984 – 1995) (divorced)
#Susan Marie Gardner (18 August 1995 – 30 November 1996) (his death)
—SlamDiego 11:18, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wives 

message: IMDb.com reports Tiny Tim's real name as “Herbert Butros Khaury”.  This is in keeping with the traditional Arab practice of forming a name thus:
:<personal name> <father's personal name> <grandfather's personal name>  <great-grandfather's personal name> … <name of ancestor for whom family is named>
—SlamDiego 09:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: IMDB consists of self-published information and is not considered a reliable source in Wikipedia. Can you produce a reliable reference? — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 01:45, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle name 

message: Tiptoe through the Tulips has a link that redirects right back to the page. Can I fix this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crushedmidnight (talk • contribs) 01:07, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it would be better if you didn't change it.  Someone may eventually write an article about the song, replacing the redirect with content about the song itself.  If you change the link, then someone will have to re-link it.  --rogerd 01:51, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tiptoe through the Tulips? 

message: Would it be worth killing the dismbig parentheses in the title to moe this to his real name, which is the first name given in the article?  Or am I the only one who hates those?  Milto LOL pia 05:09, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move? 

message: Tim lived in my hometown of Des Moines, Iowa for a couple of years in the early '90s.  He had a steady gig at one of the music venues in town.
Cranston Lamont 21:41, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Des Moines 

message: Tiny Tim appeared in a rare appearance as Lord of the League in a charity film short done for the Cleveland Browns in 1986 called "Masters of the Gridiron".  Proceeds went to the United Way.  I have a copy of the VHS tape.  68.228.187.154 (talk) 10:32, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rare Appearances 

message: I noticed that in the infobox, there is an entry called "Associated acts" that lists The Beatles.  There is no other reference to the Beatles in the article.  As far as I know, there is no connection between the two acts.   I am removing this, because I believe this was unintentional.  --rogerd (talk) 22:57, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: To add another voice/witness, I have said record and Tiny Tim does indeed appear on it.THX1136 (talk) 16:45, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Further to that, The Beatles helped set up his famous Royal Albert Hall performance. The Beatles recommended Tiny to their fans, telling them that he's the "real deal". It's hard to understand but you have to understand that Tiny Tim was for a few years one of the most famous and celebrated musicians in America, and his music was often highly rated by those in the industry. The way he carried on his career for the last few decades of his life, never again even approaching that level of fame or recognition, it's easy to forget just how huge he once was and how incredible it seems that The Beatles would want to associate with him. 203.7.42.67 (talk) 21:52, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Associated acts: The Beatles???? 

message: Tiny Tim also starred in an ill fated feature film entitled "Blood Harvest". It is the only film in which Tiny Tim played the lead role.
Later career
After this career highlight  
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In 1986/87 he starred as a ukulele-playing psycho clown in the cult B-grade horror film Blood Harvest (1987), directed by Bill Rebane. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.1.106 (talk) 04:10, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  chronological disorder 

message: There are a ot of them in here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.194.101.164 (talk) 02:28, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you give examples? Hit-and-run complaints with no cited facts are not constructive. — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 01:34, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, you top-posted, which is bad. I moved this comment back where it apparently belongs. — UncleBubba ( T @ C ) 01:57, 30 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weasel Words 

message: This article's prose style is that of a press release. Tiny Tim was an interesting guy, and I quite liked him, but someone needs to go through this article and strike out all the breathless adverbs.  --GeePawHill (talk) 06:20, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fanboy POV and Breathlessness 

message: In the lede and info box, Tim is currently called a "musical archivist". But there is nothing in the text to suggest that he ever trained or worked as an archivist. Maybe this entered the article as a poorly worded attempt to allude to Tim's interest in pre-rock popular music. I suggest we delete the wording or change it to "with a great interest in early-20th century popular music". What does everybody say? Martin Rundkvist (talk) 11:36, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I do suspect that's what they were trying to say, but if you could find the editor who posted that, and if still active, you could maybe ask. If they're not active, go ahead and change it. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 11:56, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Curtsurly, who wrote that in December 2005, stopped contributing to Wikipedia five years ago. I guess I'll just change it now. Martin Rundkvist (talk) 22:03, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The term "archivist" seems to be more than just someone who has a private collection of old records. I think it's safe to say that he was not a professional archivist. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 22:11, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't know if this was ever resolved, but the interview with Tiny Tim on Morton Downey Jr's interview show, posted to YouTube, has Downey and Tim discuss the fact he was a musical archivist. 68.146.233.86 (talk) 01:28, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Musical Archivist? 

message: In what sense not purely American?  In what way British?Moletrouser (talk) 22:00, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  British-American? 

message: The description of his final heart attack, after which he was "led out by his third wife" and "collapsed shortly thereafter" seems to heavily imply that he did not die on stage, and in my opinion this article should not be included in the category "Musicians who died on stage". I'm not going to change it myself because I'm not familiar with the method of inclusion in such a category. 208.127.108.167 (talk) 08:50, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death on Stage? 

message: The article currently states that the marriage of Tiny Tim was watched "with 21.4 million viewers watching". I've added a cite tag on it because well, it wasn't cited in the first place, but also I was watching PBS's American Masters which stated that something over 45 million people were watching it, making it the most watched show since. Any legit sources on this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.29.130.57 (talk) 20:38, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello. I went ahead and specified the source for the 21.4 million figure.  The Wikipedia article actually did state 45 million at one time, but because it was unsourced, and I assumed that the New York Times must have researched the Nielsen Ratings for that night in 1969 before they published the obit, I changed it.  But if you know the title of the PBS American Masters program, and perhaps can find the date it was produced, then we'll just include that as another reference.  The sentence could then be written to say something like, "On December 17, 1969, Tiny Tim married Victoria Mae Budinger (aka "Miss Vicki") on The Tonight Show Starring Johnny Carson.  It was a big pop culture event at the time, with the number of American households tuning in to see the spectacle hitting a record amount, cited anywhere from 21.4 million to 45 million viewers."  Evenrød (talk) 01:32, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed it to 40 million; see minute mark 2:16:  Evenrød (talk) 06:18, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  How many million viewers on Carson? 

message: According to Tiny Tim biographer, Lowell Tarling: 
Tiny Tim had a unique creative relationship with Australian artist, Martin Sharp, well known for his album covers for the band Cream, his artistic contribution to London’s OZ magazine, amongst other things. In 1976 Sharp and Tiny Tim collaborated on a marathon, the World Non-Stop Singing Record (for a professional singer).
 
On 12 January 1979 Tiny set this record at two hours, 15 minutes and seven seconds at Luna Park, Sydney Australia. This became the core material for Sharp’s film Street of Dreams. (In May 1988, Tiny broke his own record at the Brighton Arts Festival UK, where Sharp’s film was screened – see youtube.) Tiny Tim was also the subject of several major Sharp paintings
 
By 1982 Tiny Tim and Martin Sharp had collaborated on three LP records: Chameleon, Wonderful World of Romance and Keeping my Troubles to Myself (all re-released and currently available online). This was followed by a hard rock album titled Rock (1992), and Tiny Tim’s Christmas Album (1996).
 
Sharp also booked major venues, like the Sydney Opera House, for seven of Tiny’s Australian tours, as well designing the posters for these concerts..
 
After interviewing Tiny over an 11-year period, one of Sharp’s assistants, Lowell Tarling, has written Tiny Tim’s biography, (published in 2013)*. It includes many of Sharp’s posters and paintings of Tiny Tim.
 
SOURCE: Tarling, LR, Tiptoe Through a Lifetime, Generation Books, 162 pp. 2013
Fiji Dailyposter (talk) 02:22, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It would appear that the information above is more suitable for the article on Martin Sharp.  The Ukulele Guy - Aggie80 (talk) 10:59, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 7 September 2013 - Please ADD this to the entry 

message: Tiny Tim had a unique creative relationship with Australian artist, Martin Sharp, well known for his album covers for the band Cream, his artistic contribution to London’s OZ magazine, amongst other things. In 1976 Sharp and Tiny Tim collaborated on a marathon, the World Non-Stop Singing Record (for a professional singer).
 
On 12 January 1979 Tiny set this record at two hours, 15 minutes and seven seconds at Luna Park, Sydney Australia. This became the core material for Sharp’s film Street of Dreams. (In May 1988, Tiny broke his own record at the Brighton Arts Festival UK, where Sharp’s film was screened – see youtube.) Tiny Tim was also the subject of several major Sharp paintings
 
By 1982 Tiny Tim and Martin Sharp had collaborated on three LP records: Chameleon, Wonderful World of Romance and Keeping my Troubles to Myself (all re-released and currently available online). This was followed by a hard rock album titled Rock (1992), and Tiny Tim’s Christmas Album (1996).
 
Sharp also booked major venues, like the Sydney Opera House, for seven of Tiny’s Australian tours, as well designing the posters for these concerts..
 
After interviewing Tiny over an 11-year period, one of Sharp’s assistants, Lowell Tarling, has written Tiny Tim’s biography, (published in 2013)*. It includes many of Sharp’s posters and paintings of Tiny Tim.
 
Tarling, LR, Tiptoe Through a Lifetime, Generation Books, 162 pp. 2013
FijiDailyPost (talk) 03:03, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tiny Tim in Australia 

message: Tiny Tim explained on the Howard Stern show, months before he died, why there was a discrepancy in his age and why some media reported it as 73 when he was actually 64.  See starting at minute mark 2:50 :. Evenrød (talk) 02:42, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Age at death

message: In Tiny Tim's discography it doesn't mention the split EP he did with GG Allin, which I think is interesting and of note. GG Allin expressed admiration for Tiny Tim as an artist. Allin could also be added as a related artist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.231.10.143 (talk) 22:50, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discography 

message: It should be noted that while Tim played the ukulele left-handed (as noted in the article), he actually played the guitar right handed, as seen in his 1970's TV special "A Special Tiny Tim." 68.146.233.86 (talk) 01:25, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Right-handed guitar

message: Please add to post-humous releases: 
In 2013, Ship To Shore PhonoCo followed up "Lost & Found Vol 1" with a "Vol 2" featuring Tiny Tim's 1974 live recording of "(Nobody Else Can Love Me Like) My Old Tomato Can" on a limited edition wax cylinder, which Time.com dubbed the ‘most retro record release ever.’ Reference: http://entertainment.time.com/2013/09/09/forget-vinyl-new-recording-is-most-retro-ever/
In 2016, Ship To Shore PhonoCo released Tiny Tim's America, a collection of demos recorded by Tiny Tim in 1974 and finished in 2015 with overdubs overseen by producer Richard Barone and Tiny Tim's cousin Eddie Rabin. The album was subtitled "Rare Moments Vol. 2" and presented as a spiritual sequel to 2009's "I've Never Seen A Straight Banana: Rare Moments Vol 1." Reference:  https://www.shiptoshoremedia.com/store/albums/tiny-tims-america Justin Martell (talk) 06:47, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done — Train2104 (t • c) 17:59, 19 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 January 2017 

message: Tiny Tim sometimes didn't play the uke, he played it most of the time. M briglia05 17:22, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: February 15, 2017

message: I fixed a grammar error from "Tiny Tim (born Herbert Buckingham Khaury ..." to "Herbert Buckingham Khaury, known professionally as Tiny Tim, ..." M briglia05 15:57, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: February 22, 2017

message: Tiny's hit song was actually called "Tip Toe Thru' the Tulips With Me". User talk:MattWorks 19:12, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JTP (talk • contribs) 00:25, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2017 

message: Herbert Buckingham Khaury, better known by his stage name Tiny Tim, ... User talk:MattWorks 14:25, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. JTP (talk • contribs) 15:08, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2017 

message: Tiny Tim had the folk genre. User talk:MattWorks 14:26, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 15:19, 13 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 April 2017 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The Life and career section should mention that he acted in Blood Harvest (1987). From the film's article:
Blood Harvest is a 1987 American slasher film directed by Bill Rebane and starring Tiny Tim. It is the only feature film he starred in. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.151.18.11 (talk) 22:42, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blood Harvest (1987) 

message: please change ((British)) to ((United Kingdom|British)) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:541:4500:1760:7466:229c:6598:7107 (talk • contribs) 
: Done NiciVampireHeart 15:40, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  British 

message: Link to WWE/Lawler video is broken. Should be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmAwLSI_qt4 Digibrill (talk) 19:55, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: WP:LINKVIO. I have marked the current cite as dead. NiciVampireHeart 00:22, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 August 2019 

message: In the Posthumous Releases section, here is a source for the end of the last sentence referencing the release of the book Eternal Troubadour: The Improbable Life of Tiny Tim: http://tinytim.jawbonepress.com/
In the same section, can you please add the following to the end of the third paragraph: 
In 2016, the digital-only In The Next Life: Tiny Tim & Harve Mann (Lost & Found, Vol 3) https://music.apple.com/mx/album/in-the-next-life-tiny-tim-harve-mann-lost-found-vol-3/1096172431and, in 2019, Spirits Of The Past: Lost & Found, Vol 4 was released on compact disc. https://shiptoshoremedia.com/products/tiny-tim-spirits-of-the-past-lost-found-volume-4-cd
Can you please also add the same to the discography section?
Also in the same section, can you please add a sentence at the end about the forthcoming Tiny Tim documentary:
In 2019, it was announced that the Swedish production company Momento Film had just finished a feature-length documentary on Tiny Tim's life and career entitled Tiny Tim: King For A Day. The documentary is directed by Johan von Sydow, produced by Justin Martell, David Herdies and Michael Krotkiewski, and narrated by Weird Al Yankovic. http://momentofilm.se/films/tiny-tim/ Justin Martell (talk) 23:46, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: These are not good links.  Blogs are rarely appropriate to add, and the other "references" you added are links to promotional content.  Feel free to reactivate your request once you have a reliable source. Aasim 21:15, 23 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 April 2020 

message: fix cite note 33 idiots
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmAwLSI_qt4
id do it myself but i refuse to register an account — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:8003:2d46:e500:507d:af46:5ff1:b3dc (talk) 10:29, 14 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  hey 

message: If Findagrave is allowed under WP:RS, please add <ref>https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/20461446/it-khaury Findagrave> after the sentence ending "Khaury buried the child with a headstone that read 'It. 2001:BB6:4713:4858:75C1:618D:F037:7ECB (talk) 18:27, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Because the content on Find a Grave is user-generated, it is not considered a reliable source for use on Wikipedia. See WP:UGC and WP:RSP#Find a Grave. ‑‑ElHef (Meep?) 21:17, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 24 October 2020 

message: Tiny Tim was a devout convert to Christianity. This should be included instead of mislabeling him as Jewish. https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/devout-or-deranged-6424977#:~:text=Though%20he's%20obviously%20an%20avowed,like%20to%20be%20John%20Holmes.&text=But%20until%20then%2C%20he'll,the%20Tulips.%22%20Tim%20chuckles.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.148.148.149 (talk) 14:52, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion 

message: Remove both :Category:People on the autism spectrum and :Category:People with Asperger syndrome; no evidence he was diagnosed with either. 2A02:C7F:7083:FD00:7D47:FE97:7697:3810 (talk) 14:02, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: done. Thanks! --Slp1 (talk) 15:24, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 September 2021 

message: the opening paragraph doesn't mention that Tim was a comedian, in addition to musical talents.  I happened to watch him do Great Balls of Fire.  I didn't look to see if there's a section on this part of his career, but, obviously, there should be one, and it should be part of other topics, too. 47.201.23.23 (talk) 09:52, 20 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tiny Tim: comedian 

message: If Martin Sharp is famous then it is not necessary to announce his fame. If he needs to have it announced, then he is not actually famous. We don't need to announce Tiny Tim was famous because, in fact, he was. Can we say that about Martin Sharp?
Why not just use Martin Sharp's name and allow the reader to decide is they think he is famous or not?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 180.150.254.12 (talk) 06:54, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous Australian artist 

message: The list of studio albums is missing one entry, and it should be added. "I Love Me" (Seeland, 1995). Here is the Discogs link with full credits:  https://discogs.com/release/15606049-Tiny-Tim-I-Love-Me Georgeludwig (talk) 02:45, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: I Love Me is already listed in the Studio Albums section.  See also WP:DISCOGS RudolfRed (talk) 03:20, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2024