Talk:Tabor Light

message: Shouldn't the main title be Uncreated light?  True, Tabor light is a better translation of the Greek "Φῶς του Θαβώρ" (although Light of Tabor would be better still), but "Uncreated light" is MUCH more common.  E.g., a Google search of "Tabor light" gives 801 results (of which fewer than half refer to the subject of this article), while another of "Uncreated light" returns about 23,200.
:I support the name change. "Uncreated Light" is a much more common term, and it accurately implies the theological concept behind it. MishaPan 15:36, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: ok, so I cobbled together this article without being aware that we already had Essence-Energies distinction. I think the topical overlap is rather too great, and the two articles should probably merged. thoughts? dab (𒁳) 21:07, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: merge?

message: Can some please explain this to me (here or on my talk page):
Thanks in advance. --Paxcoder (talk) 23:17, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please respond 

message: NB: I am NOT, at this time, proposing a merger of any articles.  However, I do think we should look at the inadequacy of coverage of Palamism in multiple articles.
Palamism used to redirect to Tabor Light (which was, in my opinion, the wrong place for it to redirect)
In addition to the article on Gregory Palamas, we also have articles on Theosis (Eastern Orthodox theology),Hesychasm,Essence-Energies distinction and Tabor Light.
It seems to me that all of these articles (except for the biographical one on Palamas himself) are just parts of the overall doctrine known as Palamism.  We could either merge all of these articles into one big one titled Palamism or we could at least construct an article titled Palamism that introduces each of the subtopics in summary style and then links to the main article on each subtopic. 
I think that having so many articles gives the reader a fragmented view of Palamism and requires him to find and read several articles in order to construct an integrated and complete picture.  It is much like the four blind men describing different parts of the elephant.
To address this problem, I've created an article titled Palamism.  At the moment, it is not much more than a collection of lead sections plus the section titled "Development of the Doctrine" that I originally assembled for this article from Hesychasm andGregory Palamas.  I hope this new article can serve as an "umbrella" summary article for all these detailed articles that describe different parts of the elephant. 
--Richard S (talk) 22:03, 27 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiple articles covering Palamism 

message: Is this an article or a footnote? There seems to be more text in the footnote than the article. This is article is not on my path to edit now, but I just do not trust it. The sources used are mostly websites, and are at best borderline WP:RS or perhaps below it. It is an important topic, and really deserves better than this. I only looked on here now because I am doing an article on the iconography of Transfiguration and that relates to this, but I think you guys should improve this article, have less footnotes and better refs. History2007 (talk) 02:43, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: it was just excessive quoting from the sources used, the article quality as such isn't affected by this, for better or worse. --dab (𒁳) 08:24, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Article or footnote?

message: I am not sure if the Saskatchewan thing from 1938 is even relevant here. 
I came across it back in 2007 when I first collected sources on the topic. 
Apparently this was an incident of a ghostly light seen in the cemetery of a now no-longer existing village called "Tabor". It isn't clear where this was, online references vary between 27 km, 17 miles and 27 miles, either to the northeast or northwest of Esterhazy. 
Since 27 km is about 17 miles, 27 miles is probably wrong, but there is nothing at that distance from Esterhazy either to the northeast or to the northwest.
More to the point, the thing was called "Tabor light", apparently in oblique reference to the theological concept, but it isn't clear that it has any sort of notability to the topic. 
It's still worth noting the existence of this somewhere on Wikipedia if only to prevent it from popping up again without proper references. 
--dab (𒁳) 08:28, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Saskatchewan

message: The current article scope seems to be about Uncreated light, which is sometimes called Tabor Light, rather than about general theological discussion about the light seen during the Transfiguration. Given that "uncreated light" is a far more common term than "Tabor light", and for clarity about article scope, I propose renaming to . Any objections? Daask (talk) 15:52, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed rename to Uncreated Light