Talk:Congregation for the Evangelization of Peoples

message: I have changed "Committee for the Propagation of the Faith" to "Congregation for the Propagating of Faith". "Congregatio" is rarely if ever translated into English as "Committee"; the present incarnation of the Roman Catholic Church uses "Congregation" exclusively in translation. Moreover, the Oxford "liber interpres lingva latinae elementorvm" gives only union, society, and association as alternatives. "Propaganda" is a gerund, and takes the form "Propagating" and not "Propagation". I also used "Congregation" in place of "Propaganda Fides" in the first paragraph, as a contraction of the full name, as it makes more sense to refer to a "congregation" than a "propagating of faith".
::...besides, the historical actions of the Congregatio have given the gerund Propaganda an embarassing sound... Wetman 20:16, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: ...  but the usual English language term seems to be "Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith" (as already reworded).  Alai 08:15, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Alai is correct. Per the congr. profile webpage "Until 1982 it was known as The Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith or Propaganda Fide." Caisson 06 (talk) 02:54, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: Actually, every instance of the word propaganda cited by the OED outside of the specific context of the congregatio de propaganda fide are all negative. "1842: Brande, Dict. Sci., etc. s.v. Derived from this celebrated society, the name propaganda in modern political language is applied as a term of reproach to secret associations for the spread of opinions and principles which are viewed by most governments with horror and aversion."76.99.126.235 21:37, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Negative associations of the word Propaganda 

message: If this committee existed SINCE Gregory XIII, then its outcome cannot have taken place in 1508 as stated in the last sentence because that is BEFORE Gregory XIII.
"There had already been a less formally instituted cardinal committee concerned with propaganda fide since the time of Pope Gregory XIII (1572 - 1585), who were especially charged with promoting the union with Rome of the long-established eastern Christian communities: Slavs, Greeks, Syrians, Egyptians, and Abyssinians. This was the traditional direction for the Catholic Church to look for evangelizing. Catechisms were printed in many languages and seminarians sent to places as far as Malabar. The most concrete result was the union with Rome of the Ruthenian Catholic communion, most concentrated in modern day Ukraine and Belarus; the union was formalized at Brest in 1508."
4.249.3.37 (talk) 12:37, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factual problem 

message: Apparently they exert some kind of effect over "mission dioceses" that I am having a hard time finding out about. I can name these dioceses. I just can't describe how they are "officially" different to the church. Student7 (talk) 22:33, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Mission dioceses?

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