Talk:Incertae sedis

message: The lead refers to undefined phyllum but all examples - to undefined lesser taxa. No matter how vague Homo is, would anyone doubt attribution to Phyllum Chordata? NVO (talk) 15:07, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Phyllum?!

message: The example of Homo being placed incertae sedis in Hominidae is a bad example. It includes a subfamily Homininae, containing gorillas and chimpanzees, but the subfamily Homininae is based on the genus Homo. Without that genus included, it would have to be called Paninae or Gorillinae (I think Paninae has priority, but I am not sure). Perhaps it would be better to take a less anthropocentric view of the world, and give the example of chimpanzees being placed incertae sedis in the family, beside Homininae and Ponginae; this should probably be followed through into the next example as well. --Stemonitis (talk) 06:27, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't it be even better to give a real-world example and not a contrived one involving hominids? Ucucha 06:33, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely. Do you know of an example? Should we ask at WT:TOL? I think the original author's intention was probably to use the same taxa in examples at different ranks, rather than bamboozling the reader with dozens of new taxa, but I agree that genuine examples where taxa have been placed incertae sedis (even if they have since been placed elsewhere) would be preferable. --Stemonitis (talk) 10:40, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: One example I can think of is Gondwanatheria, which was ranked as a suborder of Multituberculata in 1996 and reclassified as Mammalia incertae sedis in 1999 (and still ranked as a suborder). Ucucha 10:01, 11 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious 

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