Talk:Federal Europe

message: The link to the source of the George Washington quotation is broken and no such quote can be found at http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/gwhtml/ . Jaia (talk) 08:19, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The quote should actually just be removed completely, since it is more than merely "disputed", but has actually already been completely debunked as a misattribution from a French author, who was using the idea of "George Washington" to give voice to his musings about the possibility of European federation.https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/George_Washington#Misattributed  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C445:5989:9817:8548:C8B:D0B (talk) 16:35, 9 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  George Washington quote 

message: In January, Vivianne Reding, has proposed the transformation of the EU into United States of Europe.--89.128.236.143 (talk) 05:53, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal 

message: I think the map is wrong as Russia is a possible member of the EU, so should be shaded green.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.25.109.196 (talk) 09:45, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: The section "small power" describes present day EU, not the subject of the article, which is about the United States of Europe being possible in the future. Anything in the section "predictions" should predict something. I haven't read the original source, but if its authors is drawing conclusions from the EU to any possible USE, it should be pointed out here as well. Otherwise I will delete the section. --JakobvS (talk) 11:03, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section "small power" in section "predictions" ist about the EU, not the USE 

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message: Per WP:BRD, I reverted an edit by User:זָרַח which reports the Daily Telegraph as saying "four advocates of European federalism were nominated to top posts in the EU". While there might be a case to include that statement in Federalisation of the European Union (where the assessment would still need to be corroborated by a more neutral source than DT), it seems to me to be a clear leap of imagination to suggest that it presages a US of E, and is thus WP:SYN in my opinion. --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 09:12, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is there any reliable source that says that the EU Council's nominations of July have the clear intention to establish a US of E?  

message: Many changes will need to be made, but I think the phrase "Federal Europe" is more commonly used than the "United States of Europe".  PrecariousWorlds (talk) 09:06, 25 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: We have a problem in that USoE is the term commonly used in fiction, whereas FE/EF is a documented real-world process (albeit sometimes exaggerated by europhobes). See also Talk:Federalisation of the European Union#Merge?. No obvious solution leaps to mind. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 20:11, 25 April 2023 (UTC)

text: I agree with this proposal. I believe a European Federation is possible, though I don't necessarily believe it'll happen. Either way though, the name "United States of Europe" will never be used for such a federation, I believe. XA1dUXvugi (talk) 15:30, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: If Federalisation of the European Union is back in operation, then I agree with the proposed rename. The USofE name will persist as a redirect and so continue to be findable in a search. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 16:27, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: What steps are required for doing this? This discussion doesn't seem to be gaining much attention. Do we start a move request or something, and hope that does? Do we just move ourselves? I'm not familiar with this procedure, as this is the first time I've done it. XA1dUXvugi (talk) 17:07, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Normally you could just use the "move" function (top row, under More) but you can't do that when the target name (Federal Europe) is already in use. I believe you need an administrator to do it. Best you ask for advice at the WP:Teahouse, otherwise it is the blind leading the blind. You may be advised to leave the discussion open for a couple of weeks more, to give others an opportunity to assent or dissent but right now it is unanimous. --𝕁𝕄𝔽 (talk) 18:51, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: In this case I will request technical help from an admin. XA1dUXvugi (talk) 18:54, 30 April 2023 (UTC)

text: I have started a technical request for this page to be moved to European Federation: Wikipedia:Requested moves/Technical requests#Uncontroversial technical requests, with the reason being: United States of Europe is a name used purely in fiction, whereas a European Federation as a possible future of the EU and is the subject of debate. XA1dUXvugi (talk) 19:14, 30 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename article to "European Federalism"