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Talk:Clan MacEwen

message: Hi there!
I feel the Clan MacEwen section needs a major overhaul. I've tinkered with it before to introduce the idea that not all MacEwens are descended from Clan Ewen of Otter, but it still places way too much emphasis on this historical clan.
Earlier writers (notably R. S. T. MacEwen, 1904) have claimed a link with between modern MacEwens and Clan Ewen of Otter, but have not presented evidence to support the claim.
I have been researching the history of the MacEwen and Ewing names for several years. There are known origins for the MacEwen name in a medieval clan based in Galloway, in Clan Cameron and in Clan MacDougall. All these are clearly supported by evidence, but there's no clear evidence that any MacEwens are descended from Clan Ewen of Otter.
I hope to get going on this some time next week (Week Starting 1 July 2013). Please let me know your thoughts. Thank you.
Thor Ewing (talk) 16:26, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah same as before Thor, just make sure you add sources for all the information that you add. Thanks.QuintusPetillius (talk) 18:09, 26 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Major Overhaul

message: Mention is made in this article that we "follow" Clan Campbell. But the sources I have say we're with MacLachlan now. (Need to go see which books have this...) This is the arrangement at the Games I've attended. Feedback? - Kathryn NicDhàna ♫♦♫ 18:31, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Clan Maclachlan
Talk:Clan Cochrane

message: I know there is a Cochrane tartan, but no mention is made here, and it doesnt appear in the list of tartans. Is it not official, or just an oversight?92.15.56.109 (talk) 08:25, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: That list looks very minimul so I suspect that it is probably an oversight.QuintusPetillius (talk) 10:36, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tartan 
Talk:Clan Colville

message: The Douglas/Colville incident most likely was in 1449, so the earl would be William Douglas, 8th Earl of Douglas and 2nd Earl of Avondale (1425–1452), who was murdered by James II of Scotland at Stirling Castle
Shipsview (talk) 16:07, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Identity of Earl of Douglas
Talk:Clan Crichton

message: "Crichton was taken prisoner but, considering the fate of Montrose was probably fortunate that he died of his wounds before he met a similar end."
Does the "he" refer to Crichton or to Montrose?
We are also not told what the "fate of Montrose" was, so have no way of knowing whether it was fortunate or not.   Kiltpin (talk) 12:58, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does this mean? 
Talk:Clan Cunningham

message: Just as a notice to other editors - there seems to be a petty feud between the two North American clan societies. Wikipedia is not the place to fight those battles, so please don't use it as a tool to promote one side or the other, you'll just get yourself banned.  I'd suggest that anyone from the respective societies have a good read of Wikipedia's policy on conflicts of interest - "Editors with COIs are strongly encouraged to declare their interests, both on their user pages and on the talk page of any article they edit...When editing causes disruption to the encyclopedia through violation of policies such as neutral point of view, what Wikipedia is not, and notability, accounts may be blocked. " Le Deluge (talk) 13:06, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Clan societies

message: This is the sort of nonsense which brings Wikipedia into disrepute. Irvine a "capital" of "Scotland"??????????? For which kings???? At what period of Scottish history???????? The first paragraph is the effusion of misty eyed expatriates who are grasping at straws for an origin legend. Let us be clear - this is fake "history" and has no place on Wikipedia. Which moderator let this nonsense stand???? Now if the author had put 1159 for 1059 and specified Malcolm IV then there might be a basis, but actually the legend is to do with this Malcolm "saving" Malcolm III and Donalbane from Macbeth (so c1045). Over Fork Over???? Hmmm I can think of a variant. Oh dear... oh dear Freuchie (talk) 23:35, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins
Talk:Clan Dewar

message: I don't know the details of how Dewar (Dewar na Ferg) of Perthshire relates to the main clan, but that article is a real mess, it's obviously a copy and paste from some ?offline? source. Potentially there's some useful material there, if it can be sourced properly, I don't know if the answer is a selective merge or what.Le Deluge (talk) 13:32, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Dewar (Dewar na Ferg) of Perthshire
Talk:Clan Dundas

message: The claim that James IV was the "last king of Scotland before the Act of Union" is completely false: James IV was not even the last king before the Union of the Crowns, much less before the Act of Union.
Following James IV, before the Union of the Crowns there was James V, Mary, and James VI.
Following James VI's succession to the English crown there was him, Charles I, Charles II, James II, and the joint rule of William and Mary before Queen Anne and the Act of Union.
What modification of this claim is needed to make it true?  Did Dundas serve James IV or a different James altogether? --Saforrest (talk) 18:47, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
Talk:Clan Elphinstone

message: I've tidied up this article and tried to make it read more fluidly. I have also added links to many of the people, places, titles and events.  However, I cannot verify on wikipedia whether Margaret Seton married into the Elphinstone family; whether the name Elphinstone derives from the area in which the family lived or the other way around (the article is not clear on this matter); or whether many Border clans are indeed descended from the Swintons.  More sources are required.
Beaufleur (talk) 13:35, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verification 
Talk:Clan Erskine

message: In reference to the edits made by user: Erskine alba. Firstly any unsourced information can be removed from Wikipedia as per the rules of editing. In order to keep the Clan Erskine article to a good standard any info added to it should have a source quoted. The user added quite a lot of unsourced info to it, which the rules of Wikipedia allow to be removed. I am happy for more info to be added providing that it is properly sourced. Secondly, you are not supposed to remove existing sourced information - without prior discussion, and you should not alter existing sourced information so that it no longer reflects what is being quoted in the source. The said user removed some existing sourced info from the Clan Erskine article and altered some so that it no longer reflected the source being quoted. In reference to Margaret of Mar, yes the Clan Mar are a separate clan to the Clan Erskine, but they share ancestry as well as the Mar title so it is important to make clear the differences. Please discuss this matter before just going and reverting.QuintusPetillius (talk) 11:46, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: The rules of editing Wikipedia
Talk:Clan Forsyth

message: The image is incorrect. It gives the motto as 'Instaurator Iruinae' but it should be 'Instaurator Ruinae'. Billtkd (talk) 17:49, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clan badge 

message: "Man of peace" would be fear sìthe, stressed on sì, not fearsithe. (This isn't a decisive argument, though, cf. dhachaigh <== do thigh). Good linguistic sources on Gaelic surnames, anyone? 89.64.25.61 (talk) 20:26, 7 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology
Talk:Clan Guthrie

message: The original article was using bare URL's as references I have reformatted the references to the required Wikipedia standards. Just using a bare web address is not acceptable. Most of the information in the history section remains as before but with a published source as reference rather than unreliable websites. Lists of famous people bearing the clan surname are not supposed to be used in clan articles unless they are directly connected with the clan - they are supposed to go on the surname disambiguation page such as here: Guthrie. The version of the article that I have written is far more accurately sourced and meets Wikipedia standards, the previous version did not.QuintusPetillius (talk) 09:40, 13 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Further to my above post. The previous version of the article was also in copyright violation of a number of the websites that it was citing as a source. (again as bare URL's).QuintusPetillius (talk) 15:15, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Clan Guthrie - Article re-write
Talk:Clan Haldane

message: This article is a complete mess. It contains virtually no sources. Also Wikipedia does not allow email addresses in articles. It has to be re-written.QuintusPetillius (talk) 11:50, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Article re-write
Talk:Forney locomotive

message: The Forney's purchased by South Side Rapid Transit (the first el line in Chicago) had flanges on both drivers, if I am to believe this photo -- Built by Baldwin.  This drawing from 1892 also shows flanges.  Lake Street El no 9 is in the St. Louis Museum of Transportation, and this photo seems to show flanges on all drivers -- Built by the R.I. Locomotive Works. Douglas W. Jones (talk) 22:45, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  No flange on the second pair of driving wheels?
Talk:Persecution of Dalits

message: I disagree with the suggestion to merge it with caste related violence. 
Dalit atrocities are a very common reported event. The atrocities involve one-sided violence.
--Vikramsingh (talk) 06:05, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want to make this a full-fledged article, that's fine. But, still content related to anti-Dalit violence from Caste-related violence in India should be merged here. Caste-related violence in India can have a section on anti-Dalit violence, with a "Main article" link to this article. Also, this article should be renamed to something like Persecution of Dalits; "Dalit atrocities" is a confusing title -- it implies that the Dalits have committed these atrocities. utcursch | talk 14:07, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

message: Hello
The content I added was totally unalike from how it was prior 2008.
2008 Version - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Persecution_of_Dalits&oldid=235205811
My version - https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Persecution_of_Dalits&oldid=1025985639 
The current version existed for five months and edited by others too. Can this be restored.    Friendly Eagle (talk) 10:38, 4 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirecting 

message: I am concerned about this edit because it stripped out all of the history of the persecution of the Dalits. There were many pieces of information that had references. If the editor felt that the sources were bogus then that should be noted and the resources checked out. bobdog54 (talk) 20:25, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Most recent Edit
Talk:Clan Houston

message: Houston is an Anglo-Norman Lowlands name. It is therefore, by definition, not a Scottish clan. Cripipper (talk) 17:56, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: In some cases the surname Houston is regarded as an Anglicised form of MacUisdein, a Gaelic surname that has been associated with the MacDonalds of Sleat. This MacDonald family are sometimes known in Gaelic as Clann Uisdein after a fifteenth-century chief named Uisdean (aka Hugh of Sleat).--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 22:06, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anglo-Norman 
Talk:Black River (New York)

message: The falls in the picture is called "Black River Falls" it's called Great Falls
Well, I live in Dexter, and the canyon through brownville looks pretty damned impressive, especially during the winter and spring when the waterfalls and natural springs on the sides of the canyon are either flowing or partially frozen. Some day, I'll bring my good camera and get some pictures of the area and try to post them on here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.59.147.224 (talk) 04:35, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments
Talk:Clan Leslie

message: is there any truth to this squib? could go in a popular culture section, traffic never hurts a legit page. OK, not never. 69.201.168.196 (talk) 21:04, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  actress Rose Leslie, Ygritte of Game of Thrones, lived there? 

message: @User:QuintusPetillius: what a pity that you didn't bother to read the BETTER sources that have been provided on YOUR talk site — by me.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SR-7v (talk • contribs) 15:48, 11 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It depends on the epoch: The documented term Sacrum Imperium Romanum Nationis Germanicæ (in German: Heiliges Römisches Reich Deutscher Nation) has been in use for this empire from 1474 until the late 1700s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holy_Roman_Empire#Name  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C0:DF02:1B00:B4BD:1988:EEA3:554B (talk) 10:52, 7 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Holy Roman Empire ≠ "Germany" 

message: Message to the new user: Right, I think you need to understand the basics of editing Wikipeidia. It is about reflecting what the sources say. Have that info you have added to the Clan Leslie article and that you have quoted to the Encyclopedia is not even in it! I know because I have the book and I am the editor who originally added it as a source to the article. Also you have added masses of unsourced info. I had the article to a good standard with every sentenced referenced - which is waht Wikipedia is about. What you have done is a added loads of unsourced sentences as well as adding info that is not in the sources you have quoted. Therefore I am quite right to revert all of your edits - which actually constitute Wikipedia vandalism. And if you continue down this route I will report you to an admin in which your IP address can be blocked from editing Wikipedia.QuintusPetillius (talk) 10:39, 22 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: New user
Talk:Clan Lindsay

message: This article is currently completely unsourced so I shall shortly therefore be re-writing it.QuintusPetillius (talk) 13:54, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Article re-write

message: I do believe Lindsey also had a castle in Genesk, Invermark Castle.  If the Highland boundry fault line is the defining factor as to which clan is highland or lowland. This would make the Lindsey Clan both. 2600:1015:A115:9145:6129:D9B1:F431:C6F0 (talk) 02:00, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that Invermark Castle is inside the Highland boundary fault line but I am not sure if it would be enough to say that the Lindsays were a Highland clan as well. I suppose it might depend on when they were based there. If from before 1746 then maybe so. QuintusPetillius (talk) 18:55, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lindsey's castle
Talk:Clan MacDonald of Glencoe

message: I am an heir Aldasair. He's my 10th great grandfather. We've been in America since the 1600's. Any information on my family would be appreciated and would love to come & place flower's on their places of rest. Much obliged, Timothy Miles. 174.235.80.143 (talk) 19:52, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heirs to Clan McClain 

message: Can someone make a .svg version of this Glendon crest:File:Crestglencoe.jpg AvailableViking (talk) 02:54, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request
Talk:Clan MacFarlane

message: There seems to be conflation here between on the one handClan MacFarlane (what they* term Viking male lineages, mostly haplogroup-I, a minority in Scotland); and on the other hand, a small kin-group they call the "leadership group" (a subgroup of R1B1, like the majority of men in Scotland & Ireland) who claim and seem to have a close relation to some Lennoxes.  
*They being people mostly called MacFarlane who curate the Family Tree DNA project page and explain and interpret the results. The results themselves are done by different people on a separate site.
The MacFarlane webpage is still headed with the pre-emptive conclusion that MacFarlane (I) is a cadet of Lennox (R1B1).  
It is so fraught with circular argument, begged questions, and form-letters dismissing the great horde of "viking" elephants in the room that it's startling.  Their repeated interpretation is that if you are anything but the R1B1 cluster, your ancestors were non-paternity events, adopted or peripheral tenants randomly fetching up around Arrochar (with oddly little of the ubiquitous R1B1) but given generous permission to borrow this strangely Gaelic name adopted by French-speaking, Latin-writing (Norman-Breton?) Lennoxes.
Or, you know, it's the bleedin' obvious, that the (viking-haplotypes) MacFarlanes are descended from Norwegians and when their boss-family was left with just heiresss they followed the usual form and adopted-in a cadet (R1B1), telling the troops and the grandkids (as the Rose/Rosses did) that their dad was really not a random bought-in stranger but some far-back relative on the paternal side, "one of the old earls" sidelines, honest!  
Or else the boss's wife had a non-paternity event courtesy of a Lennox.
86.187.166.193 (talk) 10:52, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  " Descended from the ancient Earls of Lennox," (R1B1) Yet mostly "Vikings" (I)
Talk:Clan Maclaine of Lochbuie

message: This article contradicts the article on |Clan Maclean. In the former article, it says that this clan and Maclean of Duart are two branches of the same clan. Also, in this article no distinction is made between being a branch and being a related clan. Why is it not a branch? Can this be clarified?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Clan MacLeod (talk) 05:35, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think what it it trying to say is that Maclaine of Lochbuie is a branch of Clan Maclean but also a separate distinct clan in its own right, a bit like Clan MacLeod of Lewis and Clan MacLeod. The matter does need a rewrite, so User:76.110.123.192 fancy setting up an account and editing Wikipedia? Yours ever, Czar Brodie (talk) 10:21, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Branch?? 

message: I propose that Macleans of Lochbuie be merged into Clan Maclaine of Lochbuie. The former seems to be dealt with in more detail here and there seems no need for a a separate article.  Ben MacDui 19:22, 14 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Support.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 08:06, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Ben MacDui 11:18, 22 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal
Talk:Clan MacThomas

message: I have assessed this article as a B-class article since it has not yet been submitted for GA consideration.  I have also ranked it as being of Mid level importance because it is one of the "Broken Clans".  However, as it was a constituent clan of the Chattan Confederation, I would also support it being ranked as a High Importance article.--William Thweatt Talk | Contribs 20:17, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment
Talk:Clan Mar

message: I've edited the titleholders here, as a number of the earlier ones are listed with Ehglish names, while the articles linked use the Gaelic. It makes more sense to use both, so I have.
Also, the numbering for this title is all over the place (see the Earl of Mar article). Each titleholder after 1404 has about four possible ordinal numbers, depending on the source, while those prior don't seem to have had them at all. The articles on these people have been moved to titles that give their dates rather than their numbers to avoid confusion, so it makes sense to take the numbers out from here, too. I trust everyone is OK with that. Swanny18 (talk) 01:29, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names, and numbers
Talk:Clan Marjoribanks

message: The article states that "the name is usually pronounced ‘Marchbanks’". Is it not closer to "Marshbanks"? This is suggested by the following limerick (from here – not a reliable source): 
:The vicar - his surname was Beauchamp -
:Of marriage endeavoured to teauchamp,
:While the bridesmaid, Miss Marjoribanks,
:Played one or two harjoripranks;
:But the shoe that she threw failed to reauchamp.
Comments? GrindtXX (talk) 20:21, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation
Talk:Clan Matheson

message: Maybe someone who knows a bit more about the history of Gaelic orthography than me could add in fadas where appropriate in the names in the table.---Ehrenkater (talk) 14:43, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orthography 

message: According the Matheson DNA project, the Matheson of Lochalsh are M198+ M417+ 2605:A601:A715:9A00:5445:E0FB:23B3:C093 (talk) 04:37, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  yDNA says Mathesons are related to the MacDonalds?
Talk:Clan Moncreiffe

message: : Their lands take their name from the Gaelic name Monadh Croibhe meaning hill of the sacred bough. This is represented on the clan crest which features the sacred tree.
According to the Clan Map by Moncreiffe & Pottinger, the shield is Argent a lion gules and a chief ermine and the crest is a demi-lion gules. The supporters, iirc, are wild men. So where does a tree come in? The mantling does appear to be oak leaves. —Tamfang (talk) 22:25, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  can't see the forest for the lions 

message: Is this a variation on name spelling?  Or is it completely unrelated?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.240.187 (talk) 16:41, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moncreaff 

message: :
Oh, I had taken the first word to be sûr as in the formula "sure and certain hope of resurrection".  Would like a reliable source for the translation. —Tamfang (talk) 23:06, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  sure I'm sure
Talk:Clan Nesbitt

message: On 20 May 2019‎ user 75.136.192.76 made the claim in the Notes section that <I>"The name “Nesbit” is not related in any way to those with the spelling of Nesbitt, Nesbett, Nisbet..."</i></B>
Are such unsourced claims from unregistered users permitted?
Heraldic (talk) 10:53, 7 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  UnSourced claim
Talk:Raxaul

message: Does "direct trains to Delhi" mean 1676mm gauge?    Tabletop (talk) 05:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it does: Delhi has only 1676 mm gauge now. SBC-YPR (talk) 13:49, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gauge at Raxaul 

message: I'm of the opinion that parts of this section need to be moved to Champaran, and the rest merged with Raxaul Bazar, with a redirect. Comments welcome. SBC-YPR (talk) 13:49, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: I do not think the picture that you have posted is appropriate. the picture is of Birgunj gate that is located in Nepal. If you really want to show Raxaul, then put something from Raxaul. Please rethink on this. Please.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nisshus (talk • contribs) 02:37, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Profile Picture
Talk:Clan Rollo

message: Erik Rollo, nephew of William the Conqueror is completely made up.  Invented.  Utter fiction.  Ridiculous fantasy.  No such person existed.   Any source that claims such a person as ancestor is no more accurate than a source that claims Mickey Mouse as ancestor, and is, by definition, a non-reliable source.  Of course, a source that claims Mickey Mouse as ancestor is so unworthy of refutation that no scholar will waste time refuting it.  There is not a presumption of accuracy for a source that includes such hilarious origin fables.  That the author would shamelessly, or incompetently, attribute to a well known person whose family has been studied in detail by historians for over a century an otherwise unknown nephew, Erik, speaks volumes about the source's lack of reliability.  It is like inventing a compatriot of Jesus named Brian - only good for its comic effect.  You find for me any reliable scholarly source that shows William the Conqueror to have had a nephew Erik Rollo and then we will have something to talk about. WP:V calls for basing articles on "reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." Note: sources - plural.  Note: reputation for fact-checking and accuracy.  When an article's sole source invents a non-existent nephew of an incredibly famous person, or credulously parrots a vane family's invention of same, it fails that abysmally. Agricolae (talk) 11:50, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Abject Nonsense