Talk:Comedy drama

message: I think Dramedy should be a stand alone article and not linked to Comedy-Drama or Drama-Comedy as the term is now almsot universally accepted in the entertainment media world. Magazines like Entertainment Weekly, People and even newsprints like the LA Times are using the phrase as exampled when they did so just recently when Ugly Betty won the Golden Globe. --Mezaco 00:49, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Stand alone article

message: A good proportion of this article should be re-organised into a list of comedy-dramas (or is the pluralisation comedies-drama? ;) perhaps organised by year. Most of the section 'Drama-comedy on television today', for instance, is a just hard-to-read listing of example programmes. JVC 10:19, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: List of TV programmes/shows

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 14:52, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: What we have here is a TV-only, ill-defined category that excludes very few TV shows. If you look at the list of properties, it allows any show that isn't a purely episodic, 30-minute sit com. There are no useful criteria of definition. It's not a well-understood category with academic backing.
Additionally, this is more of the kind of thing you hear in a puff-piece magazine than a serious intellectual category. If you want to understand the distinction between comedy and drama, you can go all the way back to Aristotle. If you want to understand a dramedy … there are no real references other than the fact that it made it into the dictionary.
We start with a impure but easily understood dichotomy between comedy and drama. We then say that any show that doesn't fit purely into either category is a "dramedy."
The problem with this category is easily seen if you look at the list of examples people have made. Do we really think Psych has major dramatic components? Do we really think Breaking Bad is substantially comedic? I've removed these terribly silly examples, but many of the shows on the list are totally subjective and debatable. Any drama with a funny moment, or any comedy with character development, you can argue that it's some kind of "hybrid." In reality, there are only a few examples that you can't easily say fits primarily and soundly in one category or the other.
Remove this article altogether. There just isn't enough encyclopedic or academic context to warrant an article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gerweck (talk • contribs) 08:26, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current content is inadequate to justify an entry. 

message: In this edit, I removed a litany of shows, films, etc. that are A) questionable to include anyway since we're talking about something somewhat subjective, and B) it doesn't seem to me that the aim of this article is to catalog every conceivable comedy-drama under the sun. Further, who has determined that Kung Fu Panda 2 is a comedy-drama? Rugrats in Paris: The Movie?  Finding Nemo?  All comedies employ drama to tell stories (Airplane!) so unless there is a clear reason why we should call something a comedy-drama, we probably shouldn't be adding anything to the list.  Cyphoidbomb (talk) 23:36, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverted additions 

message: I'd like to help focus the scope of this article, as most of the recent edits have involved adding to a growing list of examples, for instance the net of these good-faith edits by . Clearly the purpose of this article is not to list every comedy-drama under the sun, or even every notable comedy-drama under the sun, so when will we have enough examples? Do we even need a list? Isn't that why we have categories? Couldn't sufficient examples be presented in prose? The benefit to prose is that we wouldn't have an attractive nuisance in the form of a list. It seems to me that the bulk of the edits in the past six months have been made to the list section. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 00:43, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The examples should be critically acclaimed award winning and highly discussed pioneers in the category that they are supposed to represent. When one thinks of a tragic love story, you think of Titanic. When one thinks of comedy, you think Tommy Cooper. Scrubs in it's run was and still is celebrated as a show that took comedy and made it unique in it's own style; that is how scrubs is celebrated. it was the at-the-time one of the most potent Comedy-Drama. however to the question of why do we need examples listed? You do have a point. In a summery of how this could be resolved, i suggest looking deeper into the meaning of what we are trying to write for so the examples listed are what everyone would attribute on eye. However i am also in favor of removing the entire aspect completely as it is rather mundane. *JoeTri10_ 10:25, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: If the list is to exist, I'm fine with Scrubs being on it. You've sold me. But at some point it seems we need to pull the plug, what with lists being cruft magnets, or let it grow and merge this section of the article into a "List of" article. The secondary aspect of my general complaint about this article has to do with personal interpretation. When I first encountered this article it was after I'd noticed an uptick in kids changing TV infobox genres from Comedy to Comedy-drama or Dramedy--it was like someone had just taught children this new word, and the kids went out and decided to make everything a comedy-drama, perhaps because they noticed drama and comedy being used together. ("Hey, he's happy, but now he's sad. Comedy-drama!") But is Kung Fu Panda really a comedy-drama? Rugrats? Gravity Falls? What the kids aren't getting is that all comedy uses drama to tell the narrative. Airplane! is a rib-busting comedy, but it employs heavy dramatic elements to play the comedy off of. On the other hand, you have M*A*S*H*, which although generally was a comedy, had serious themes and dealt with war and killing in a very serious way. That is obviously a comedy-drama. Breaking Bad was pretty heavy but had some really comedic moments. Is that a comedy-drama? Not necessarily. So, my rant being over, what is the metric we would use for inclusion on this list? A reliable source calling the film/tv show a comedy-drama? Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:46, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say creating a criteria centered around sources is fine. As i mentioned before, anything that has been nominated for an award in the specific genre is normally officially recognized in said genre. It should also be noted that 'Comedy-Drama' needs to be the Primary genre. So for example 'Buffy' may be a Comedy-Drama but it's primary genre is 'Supernatural Drama' whilst 'Gilmore Girls' is primarily a Comedy-Drama. The page will have to be heavily monitored by the looks however. Seeing examples you listed that featured is laughable, i even saw Pokemon listed which was just plain silly. *JoeTri10_ 20:33, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Any list that's termed "Notable..." should have an intro saying how they're notable (criteria). --Musdan77 (talk) 23:45, 1 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the scope of this article? 

message: Half of that stuff isn't considered notable. And anytime anything is added to the list that is relevant to the article, it gets deleted for no good reason.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.213.192.54 (talk) 02:13, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Your statement "Half of that stuff isn't considered notable" isn't accurate at all. These are all notable examples either per WP:NOTFILM or even per WP:GNG. Buuuut, there are a few facts to face: This is an article about the concept of "comedy-drama". What has taken on a life of its own, is the list of example titles that people have added, perhaps indiscriminately. If you want to discuss the scope of the article and a reasonable number of examples of "comedy-dramas" across the various media, that's great, let's do that. Removing titles as you did here with Diary of a Mad Black Woman, may not be particularly helpful because the title can be sourced as a comedy-drama, and is presumably notable. Now maybe there are better examples of films and TV series known for being comedy-dramas? Sure. And I'm game to discuss that. What we don't need are unexplained deletions. Now, maybe if we were to set the bar higher and require some sort of award recognition for these series? Would that be better? I don't particularly care that the TMNT titles remain, but getting rid of the entirety of the animation selections seems controversial. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 02:34, 24 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The so-called "list of notable movies and TV series'" sucks 

message: What about Anywhere But Here, Raising Helen, or Birdman?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C8:C001:8A3A:14F9:65F:89A3:7BB9 (talk) 00:36, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: What about them? This is an article that attempts to describe what a comedy-drama is. There are a few examples. We surely cannot serve everybody's preferred example of a comedy-drama. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 01:54, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  What? 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Moved. Though "dramedy" has become a popular term in North America, supporters have successfully demonstrated that it is not a commonly used term in other English-speaking regions, in comparison to the proposed "comedy drama" which is recognizable worldwide. (non-admin closure)  ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 17:56, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Dramedy →  – "Dramedy" is an informal portmanteau, similar to romedy. The article was moved without any consensus, and that must be reverted. Kailash29792 (talk)  04:06, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 4 April 2022