Talk:Fighter Pilots' Revolt incident

message: Dear editors, I believe that the term "revolt" ist over-emphasizing and misleading. It implicates the use of resistance, if not violence. According to Steinhoff, Lützow and Galland, this was not the case. It was, however, an uncredited verbal expression of critisism about the Luftwaffe high command. The critics have been in contact for many years and therefor Steinhoff places the term Verschwörung: conspiracy.
The reaction of Göring and Hitler was rough, but nobody was sentenced officially. 
I suggest to move the article to Fighter Pilots Conspiracy.  
After war it became fashion amongst german military protagonists to point out their opposition the the german high command. Undoubtly there have been differences about how to win the war, but to oppose against the regime itself was a different story. Neither Galland nor Lützow nor Steinhoff can been seen as participants of a revolt against germans political leaders. They expressed their doubts about how to best kill the allies and were disciplined moderatly.
Best regards,--Greenx 11:14, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: I have read Galland`s autobiography, a few times in fact, and cannot remember anything about him wanting to take his own life or that his girlfriend pleaded with Hitler to stop Galland from killing himself. Where is the evidence for all this ?
Nor is there anything about it in this article.
Also this line doesn`t make sense :
Galland arranged for a meeting with Göring. However, Galland was not invited to this meeting
--JustinSmith (talk) 09:59, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Galland`s suicidal thoughts 

message: It is customary practice to fully identify individuals when they are first mentioned in an article, maybe give a brief background.  Unfortunately this reads like it was lifted straight out of the middle of another article, with players like Adolph Galland and Hermann Goering identified only by last name.  It is several paragraphs before Galland has a hotlink on his name and he is never fully named.  I suggest that "Background" needs a new introductory paragraph that reflects this shortfall.
Later in the article is a list of participants; while Adoph Galland was not present at the meeting, it is documented that he listened to the discussion via an open phone line and discussed the meeting with other attenders.GeeBee60 (talk) 21:46, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Background (expand) 

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*Support WP:CRITERIA In ictu oculi (talk) 09:21, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Per the reference cited (please see reference for full details, this is just a summary), in which Galland was personally interviewed, Galland mentioned the meeting with Goering where the Fighter’s Revolt took place.  He did not mention an exact date, but I believe it was early March 1943 (Major Joachim Muncheberg was at the meeting and he was KIA March 23, 1943). In the meeting, which was held at one of Goering's confiscated estates, Goering berated the fighter forces, accusing them of cowardice etc.  Lutzow stood up and challenged Goering. Galland said he thought at time, that he had just watched a friend commit suicide.  Indeed, Goering, purple with rage, told Lutzow that he could have him shot. Then Galland stood up and spoke at Goering with words that ended to the effect "If I am a coward, then I am not worthy to wear these", then Galland took off his Knight's Cross with Oak leaves, Swords and Diamonds, Spanish Cross in Gold with Swords and Diamonds, Iron Cross, and Wound badge, and threw them down on the table in front of Goering.   Then Lutzow, Trautloff, and Muncheberg took off their Knight's Crosses etc. and threw them on the table also.   This wasn't a minor incident.  Lives were on the line. Goering told Galland he was going to have him shot. Galland also mentioned that Waffen SS General Felix Steiner, who was a friend of his, heard about Goering's plan in Berlin and lent Galland a personal Waffen SS bodyguard for protection to discourage would-be assassins.  The German Aces Speak: World War II Through the Eyes of Four of the Luftwaffe's Most Important Commanders by Colin Heaton and Anne-Marie Lewis (ISBN-9780760341155)Mr. Tudball (talk) 20:43, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Galland's own words