Talk:José Argüelles

message: Although I don't subscribe to any of the teaching of Jose Arguelles in particular, I do ackowledge the 13 moon, natural time system.  I feel this article unecessarilly bad-mouths Arguelles, and in doing so alludes to holes with natural time.  The absence of a date for July 26th is called the Day Out of Time, a sort of New Year or day of recognition.  Anyways, I think it should be noted that Arguelles' interpretations of natural time are not necessarilly the rules that apply to the 13 moon calendar.
What the heck are those "references"? I'm inclined to delete them. --Fluffbrain 06:03, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The issue is not with how Arguelles interprets the 13 moon calendar, but in how he interprets and is presenting Mayanism. That's what the controversy is over. Bennie Noakes 02:33, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  One-sided article? 

message: and possessed by the soul of Pakal Votan? Serendipodous 15:48, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Pacal Votan used to redirect to here, but got changed to point to K'inich Janaab' Pakal (which I'd still disagree with, Pacal Votan is entirely a figment of Arguelles & nothing to do with the historical Palenque ruler). There's a para there at the ruler's article on it, perhaps it would be best to copy that one here. --cjllw ʘ TALK 22:42, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: should we mention that he thinks he's dead?

message: Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't having a separate criticism section considered biased? Teh Rote (talk) 00:38, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think the correct title should be "Controversy". DJ Barney (talk) 21:00, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism section 

message: The article says: "José Argüelles passed away on March 23, 2011, 6:10 a.m. (exactly the same time as his birth) and precisely 1,328 years after the passing of Pacal Votan (683)" Unfortunately the date given in the article for the date of the death of Pakal is 9.12.11.5.18 (Tiesler & Cucina 2004, p. 40). This is actually Wednesday August 26th, 683 using the GMT correlation, so this is wrong. Also the Pakal article specifically debunks "Pakal Votan" as a new age hoax invented by Arguelles.  Senor Cuete (talk) 23:39, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: So is he actually dead or not? Are there any reliable sources documenting his death? -- œ™ 23:05, 4 October 2015 (UTC)

text: Looks like the March 23, 2011 date was taken from a primary source http://www.lawoftime.org/jose-arguelles-valum-votan.html?content=249 -- œ™ 23:10, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misinformation 

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