Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Lutheranism/Assessment

message: Please re-assess Martin Luther College, thanks!  1-29-09  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lieperjp (talk • contribs) 02:37, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-Assess, Please

message: One other very specific topic - the Confessions.  May I suggest the BoC, Sm Catechism, and Augsburg Confession for Top; the F of C, Lg Cat, and Schmal. Art. for High, and everything else at mid ???  -- Pastordavid 19:00, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that all of the contents of the Book of Concord really belongs in top. From 1580 until the last two centuries, the contents of all of them were the consensus position of Lutherans in general, even where they were not all formally subscribed. For high I would go with books that have had pretty universal influence among Lutherans: The Bondage of the Will, the three 1520 tracts, 95 Theses, and culturally, Table Talk; then those that must be addressed, pro and con, like the works of subsequent Lutherans (Spener's Pia, Bonhoeffer's Cost of Discipleship, etc.), the rest at mid or low. --CTSWyneken(talk) 19:11, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand what you are saying, but don't know that all of the Confessions are held in the same esteem by all Lutherans.  For example, in my experience with European Lutheranism (ok, LWF European Lutheranism), most of the state churches formally adhere only to AC.  Perhaps a compromise: TOP=AC, Sm. Cat, Lg Cat, FC, and Schm. Art.; High=Apology, Power & Primacy. (NB: not trying to argue a person position, but reflect the broadest estimation by contemporary Lutherans).  I think you are right on with your other suggestions from LW - although I would probably put the Pia in high, but that's a tough call.  -- Pastordavid 19:20, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm aware that some Lutherans do not think of these documents as definitive for them, but since they are definitive for a lot of Lutherans, especially in ages past, it is still of highest importance. Even those who do not hold these documents as normanitive still have to address them when the doctrines in these works are in play with their confessionalist cousins. The reverse is true for confessionalist Lutherans re: Pia and JDDJ... The issue really isn't worth a lengthy debate, however, since the only function I can see for the importance scale is to help us decide what to work on first. So whereever we want to rate them is OK with me. --CTSWyneken(talk) 19:51, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good points all ... especially on the rationale for not getting too worked up about the improtance rating.  I think then that we put the entire contents of BoC into Top, per your reasoning.  -- Pastordavid 20:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Importance of the Confessions

message: Ok, I have put tagged all the college articles with class and importance, and all the seminary articles with class since I had a comment (above) about the importance rating for seminaries.  I did the importance in line with the above established criteria.  I will try to get to the LCMS schools tomorrow.
jackturner3 21:03, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent work, thanks.  -- Pastordavid 01:25, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ELCA Colleges and Seminaries 

message: Is this something anyone can do? If so, how is it done? --CTSWyneken(talk) 21:32, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you talking about the graph that shows the articles by quality and importance?  If so, it is updated by bot everyday around 12am (UTC) - hypothetically, though I've noticed that it really runs every other day.  I've been running it occassionally manually lately to get more frequent updates as we've been getting so much done as far as assessment ... but we shouldn't do that too often I would think.  -- Pastordavid 22:17, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  That really is fine. I didn't notice much of a change, so I wondered if it were stuck or we were just finding a lot of new articles. 8-) --CTSWyneken(talk) 11:04, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and manually ran it around noon today (central time).  One thing I find helpful is if you go to the history for the graph, you can open a previous version and see the progress we are making (for example, look at the table for March 26 versus today).  -- Pastordavid 18:23, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updating Table of Assessments 

message: Please re-assess Concordia University, Nebraska.
Thanks
Tlancaster s 21:39, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Responded on article talk page.  Pastordavid 21:54, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concordia University, Nebraska 

message: Obvious stub-class; not sure whether to call it high- or mid-importance.  Fishal 19:23, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Lutheran views of homosexuality]]

message: Please re-assess Walter A. Maier. Thanks!Mortalresurrection (talk) 12:43, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Walter A. Maier