Talk:Phillips Academy

message: I've moved the "preppy" stuff here, since it really has no connection to Phillips Academy in particular, and someone who has more to say about it it may want to recylcle it for a "preppy" article.
:"Phillips Academy's impact extends beyond education into fashion and literature. The fashion style "preppy" is derived from popular fashion tastes of alumni and students of prep schools, such as Andover. Many brands have emulated and clothed prep school students, such as Ralph Lauren, L.L. Bean, Patagonia, and Brooks Brothers. These fashion trends and power are clearly, if unflatteringly, described in J. D. Salinger's The Catcher in the Rye. "
I would add that I don't remember any fashion trends described in Catcher in the Rye... -- Someone else 07:04 Jan 27, 2003 (UTC)
::Also note that Salinger later sent his son to PA. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.140.202.1 (talk) 16:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Preppy

message: Some people seem to be making a game out of vandalizing this page - I would guess Phillips Exeter Academy students among them, going by the vandalism. The page has therefore been protected, and will remain so until they give up and go away. (In other words, once it is finally unprotected again in a couple of weeks, I will immediately re-protect it for several more weeks at the first instance of vandalism, ad infinitum.) 
If anyone has any real changes to make, please post them here, and I (or another admin) will add them to the protected article page for you. Thanks. Noel (talk) 16:11, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: To think, a bunch of vandals making the claim that they're going to a superior educational institution. Extraordinary. Applied Irony on the syllabus at Phillips Exeter? Sockatume 16:06, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Much of the vandalism comes from college students, particularly those forced to deal with the outrageous arrogance of Andover graduates. However, if the blue ones want to believe in a delusional rivalry with the red ones, go right ahead.  Applied Narcissism on the syllabus at Phillips Andover? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adrenocort33 (talk • contribs) 02:54, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Delusional rivalry? Speak to an Andover or Exeter graduate and you'll find that the rivalry is anything but 'delusional.' — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.40.135.248 (talk) 03:13, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Persistent vandalism

message: Perhaps an admin could add Senator Lincoln Chafee (graduated 1971) to the list of notable alumni, and also correct the spelling of "Abbott Academy."  It's actually Abbot Academy (see http://www.andover.edu/about_andover/overview.htm). Thanks. -- User: 67.101.40.119 07:32, 26 Dec 2004 
: Done and done. (Good catch on the "Abbott" - my face is somewhat red as I attended Andover, and didn't catch it!) Noel (talk) 12:05, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Article fixes

message: I just took out two things: "Andover and Exeter have a long standing rivalry.  This year Andover won" under Sports and "Dormitories: West Quad North" under Facilities.  I felt they were irrelevant, but if you really think there's a case for them, i'm more than happy to hear it.  The way i see it with regards to the first one...the rivalry's already mentioned earlier on, and who won this year is not that notable.  Perhaps a new section on the rivalry with a history as well as recent results would be in order, but not one throwaway statement.  And as for the second one, it was just two headings and no info under the facilities section.jfg284 you were saying? 12:04, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Irrelevancy

message: I'd be interested in writing an Andover/Exeter sub-page, similar to the one on the English/Latin Rivalry, but I can't find the scores anywhere.  Anyone who's still at school there have any way of finding a list of the final scores of each of the games?  I've begun a rough draft here, and basically what's missing now is a long-term history with all 125 scores. jfg284 you were saying? 15:31, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I <I>might</I> be able to.  I'll let you know if I can get my hands on them, but I don't think I can do so via the web...I might have to check the school archives. --Akiora 16:05, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Wasn't there a shirt with them at some point?  Though that probably wouldn't qualify as a source, it's a start...also, if you can figure out which two years they didnt play - and why - that'd be awesome too.jfg284 you were saying? 16:10, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ya...there was a shirt, I was thinking about that, but it'd be better for a print source...the term finishes up soon, so I might not be able to actually figure anything out 'til January... --Akiora — Preceding undated comment added 16:34, 4 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Yea, a shirt clearly wouldnt hold up as a source, it just came to mind if someone had one lying around they could start entering the scores because there are over 120 unentered scores, and that will probably last some time.  Anway, whatever you get done and whenever is cool.  jfg284 you were saying? 17:43, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Andover-Exeter Rivalry Subpage 

message: What should be in said section? First things to come to mind are "Independent School League", "Prep School" (or "boarding school)", "yale" "Groton", "St. Pauls", "Deerfield", "Loomis Chafee" (etc etc etc, basically just other new england prep schools), "Preppy" (maybe)....any other suggestions?  any opposition to what i've already listed?  Those are just what I get off the top of my head, what do others think? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jfg284 (talk • contribs) 18:07, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: See Also Discussion

message: I have a few I have taken with my point and shoot camera, but they are only of fall sports.67.49.164.23 21:08, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and uploaded a picture of one of Andover's crew boats racing, with permission from the photographer. --R0uge (talk) 20:44, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures of Sports

message: I personally believe the list of sports is over-emphasized. I simply don't think a list of individual sports is nessesary. Perhaps it would be beneficial to create another page for this. --198.140.202.1 01:28, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like it, but i can see where your coming from.  on the other hand, theres no way such a page would be notable.  There's no substance to it, its just a list of sports played at a high school.  only place it's worth including is this article, and while you may be right it's not necessary, is there any real reason why its necessary to remove it?--jfg284 you were saying? 14:25, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And I like it even better now, it's been condensed into a 4 column structure instead of the hulking list it was earlier. --jfg284 you were saying? 15:02, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Over-emphasis on Sports

message: I recently ran across this stub, probably written by a PA student.  It qualified as a nn group under CSD A7, but I decided to merge it into this article instead, creating the new heading ==Notable student groups==.  I'll leave it up to an editor that knows about the school and this group to decide whether the material is worth keeping.  Canderson7 (talk) 22:11, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's now been removed by 212.158.254.131 (talk • contribs).  Just so you know. Canderson7 (talk) 22:36, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=The_Yorkies&oldid=39626845 The Yorkies]

message: I think we might be able to incorporate something more about PA's former sister Abbot Academy. Currently the school is listed a grand total of once in the article. (Which is a link to the Abbot Academy article in wikipedia... which is redirected to this article again. (I would fix this but I can't figure out how to edit a redirect >.>))24.128.122.132 23:09, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Abbot Academy should have its own article for the years 1828/9-1973 (and possibly including 1974 to pick up the graduates at Phillips who got Abbot diplomas). I though such a topic used to exist.  Is there any way to find out?  Also, I'm not sure that the Abbot Academy link in this article is redirecting back to this article.  It could simply be failing if there is no longer a destination article to display.  The solution, until the Abbot article is created, would seem to be to remove the brackets. Just a guess as I am new to Wikipedia editing but not to wikis in general.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by IPBiographer (talk • contribs) 12:21, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree Abbot Academy should have its own article. At present (Aug 10 2013) if one types in Abbot Academy in the search box, it redirects to Phillips Academy. If an article is created about Abbot Academy, the redirect can be turned into an article. My sense is -- create the article on Abbot Academy first, then fix the redirect.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 13:54, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I just created a rather extensive (i.e., detailed) stub article using the school infobox wiki template and submitted it for review. It contains a high-level introduction, notes on buildings, a list of headmasters/mistresses, headings for various categories to be filled in, and the start of a section on faculty and alumni writers, artists, and etc. The submission reply says that there is currently a week's lead-time for reviewing and approving new articles. If it is approved, I'm hopeful that others can help fill in the various headers, supply the school seal, translate the motto, and so on. There are a few pictures in Commons that will be useful. IPBiographer (AA Class of 1973).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by IPBiographer (talk • contribs) 16:24, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow. Great job! I added a history section, light copyedit, added references and photos, and floated it. No need to wait a month. I worked fast please keep improving Abbot Academy.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 20:26, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Now it's my chance to say "wow!". The Draper Hall photo is an excellent choice and I appreciate your filling in the History section and your tasteful cleanup. My particular thanks for fast tracking this article.  I will spread the word to see what improvements we can get under way.  Again, thanks so much for your efforts making this topic a reality -- it's something that's been in the back of my mind for about three years.  IPBiographer  —Preceding undated comment added 20:54, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: We could form a mutual admiration society but you would be president of it.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 21:11, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abbot Academy 

message: I have downplayed the Olmsted reference.  The only role his firm seems to have had in the campus layout was determining the placement of the campus's four "cottages" (Andover, Eaton, Pemberton and Draper) in the 1890s.  They were subsequently moved anyway.  The shaping of the current Andover campus, made possible through the largesse of Thomas Cochran in the 1920s and 1930s, was overseen by New York based architecht Charles Platt.  The foregoing information all comes from "Youth From Every Quarter: A Bicentennial History of Phillips Academy Andover" by Frederick S. Allis (University Press of New England, 1978). Cbmccarthy 18:30, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Olmsted references 

message: I was tempted to delete the references to four Medal of Honor winners.  Although their achievements are impressive, by singling out these alumni for reference in particular, does it give an impression that Andover is a military academy?  If you want to give indicative alumni, instead list Samuel F.B. Morse, Oliver Wendell Holmes, Walker Evans, Jack Lemmon and Bart Giamatti.
Cbmccarthy 03:25, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most noteworthy alumni? 

message: Do we really need to prominently mention the Kamehameha Schools and Governor Dummer Academy by name on the face of the introduction section?
With all due respect to Hayford Peirce, Exeter class of 1960 (1961?), putting this information right into the text of the first paragraph seemed stylistically weak. Giving the name of another school with a larger endowment, or the name of another school that is older, detracts from the essential identifying characteristics suitable for an intro.  In particular, the almost random insertion of a clause about the year of Governor Dummer's founding made the sentence, and the whole paragraph, very choppy.  It started to be all over the place. I rewrote the paragraph to summarize essential information about Andover. The asides about GD and K schools are now in footnotes.  Alternatively, they can go somewhere in the body of the article. They just shouldn't be here in the intro. Cbmccarthy 16:10, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm class of '59 -- we Exies graduate young.  Whether callow should also be used is debatable.... Hayford Peirce 17:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I see your reasoning on this point but I think the $8 billion of Kame. is so extraordinary that it should stay where it is.  But I wouldn't argue the footnote replacement very strenuously. Hayford Peirce 17:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other schools

message: I think it seems pretty clear that this article is made up.  I move that this page should be deleted. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.98.231 (talk) 04:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I second that. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.98.231 (talk) 04:31, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll third this one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.147.98.231 (talk) 04:55, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion

message: Many campuses contain prominent museums, and I observe that Wikipedia usually devotes a separate article to these museums. Example: the Rose Art Museum on the campus of Brandeis University receives its own article. The Addison's collection is more than twice the size of the Rose's, while according to Wikipedia both collections are of national significance. This suggests to me that the Addison also deserves its own article. What are your thoughts, editors? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.93.17.178 (talk) 14:54, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addison Gallery 

message: There's a deletion review of all alumni categories for US high schools, including :Category:Phillips Academy alumni. Occuli (talk) 20:10, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  DRV 

message: The fact that the average SAT is not broken down and is quite close to a current year makes me wonder if it is acurate.  Can someone site a source for this?  --74.92.133.14 (talk) 15:28, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  SAT scores 

message: The section on secret societies needs to be sourced or removed. Aditya α ß 15:30, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: took care of it. Aditya α ß 13:05, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secret societies 

message: This piece contains this statement: "The Phillipian, the school's student-run newspaper, is one of the oldest secondary school newspapers in the US, first published in 1831."  But according to An Old New England School: A History of Phillips Academy Andover, by Claude Moore Fuess, and published by Houghton-Mifflin Company (1917), The Phillipian did not begin publication until October 19, 1878, when it began publication as a four-page sheet printed at a Boston office.  MarmadukePercy (talk) 22:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''The Phillipian'' 

message: The selection of schools listed in the article seem somewhat arbitrary, and not based on the source provided. So, from the school's website  here, I pulled matriculation data from the past 5 years, put it into Excel, and sorted it by highest number of students sent. The top 20 are listed below. I edited the article to reflect the top 6 choices. The list is fairly Ivy-heavy, but this is the data.
I am not sure whether to include McGill University. It is at #42 on the list with 9 students, but is also the first International University. Others' opinions are welcome.
College/Univeristy                   	Number of Students sent over the past 5 years
Harvard University                   	78
Yale University                      	73
Stanford University                  	62
Pennsylvania, University of          	54
Columbia University                  	50
Princeton University                 	44
Duke University                      	41
Brown University                     	40
Georgetown University                	40
Cornell University                   	35
Johns Hopkins University             	35
Dartmouth College                    	33
Southern California, University of   	30
Tufts University                     	29
Amherst College                      	28
New York University                  	28
Boston University                    	27
Chicago, University of               	26
Massachusetts Institute of Technology	25
Washington University in St. Louis   	24
R0uge (talk) 02:43, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colleges/Universities Phillips Academy sends its students to 

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message: Just wondering if users here might weigh in on whether he's a proponent of things like social justice and diversity (as many references attest) since my contributions there keep getting reverted.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 01:39, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: If you had sources that said he was a proponent of social justice then it would not have been reverted. Please join the conversation on the talk page. Polycarpa aurata (talk) 05:10, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Raynard S. Kington]] page 

message: This is blatant self-serving advertisement, clearly lacking the relevancy to be given the same space as the entire "student body" section (especially when The Phillipian, a much older a more important organization, is not devoted a section). Seems like a blatant personal add with little to no benefit for the article and certainly no bearing on the history of a 200 year old school – if we start to list every student's projects and accomplishments this page would be filled with junk. Hickenlooper (talk) 20:04, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @Hickenlooper The material on the Phillips Academy Poll used to have its own article. It was decided to delete that article and merge it into this one. It looks like no one ever edited it down after it was merged. I have reduced it down what seems reasonable for this article about Phillips Academy. I am sure someone will complain that I have removed the names of the participants, but I think that makes the most sense because those names will change as people graduate the school and leave. Round and rounder (talk) 22:19, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It certainly has been edited since the merge. In fact, it has been the subject of many edit wars on this article. Jfkadmirer (talk) 21:06, 7 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have checked and you are correct. It looked like this after the merge. That version is quite similar to the change I made. That was a reasonable amount of coverage for this student club. If you think you can make a case for expanding it, please do it here instead of edit warring. Thanks. Round and rounder (talk) 23:53, 8 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Great, I see what you mean! Jfkadmirer (talk) 15:39, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  note that  has recently been blocked as a LTA sock. Per WP:DENY feel free to revert any of their changes to the article if you feel it was better before them. Nil Einne (talk) 11:22, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I just noticed the most recent edit in the article as by them so I reverted this myself. If you feel any of the earlier changes are also unjustified and no one else seems to support them, feel free to revert these. If you've changed your mind and feel that the article is better with Round and rounder's changes and wish to take ownership of them, feel free to revert me. Nil Einne (talk) 11:32, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Phillips Academy Poll 

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message: The Alex Shieh Center, the heart of Phillips Academy's progressive politics, is an integral part of the school and deserves its own section on the page. 198.140.203.135 (talk) 05:29, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey there! Do you have a source for this? Jfkadmirer (talk) 23:20, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alex Shieh Center Controversy 

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thread_title:  "[[:Alex Shieh]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The redirect Patrick Chen has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Utopes (talk / cont) 06:28, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Patrick Chen]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: Should Phillips Academy Poll have its own section? Additionally, should the names of the founders of the poll be included in the article? Relevant references: WP:WPSCHOOLS/AG#OS, WP:WPSCHOOLS/AG#WNTI. GuyHimGuy (talk) 01:05, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Keep section and names Per discussion above this Rfc. KangarooGymnast (talk) 02:44, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I am for removing the kid's name. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 07:38, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Keep the section per previous discussion up to 25 Dec, about one paragraph in size was fine off consensus between Melchior and I. I'm leaning towards keep on the names as well since there are sources to back it up (here and here). Privacy is always a concern, especially with minors as GuyHimGuy pointed out, but these individuals also agreed to an interview with major media such as the New Yorker and NPR, so I don't think displaying it on this page is particularly worrisome, as long as we comply with the living persons policy. Belichickoverbrady (talk) 22:41, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: This version was the consensus before the sock came in. Belichickoverbrady (talk) 22:43, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: That pre-sock version was still too extensive; it contained substantial boosterism. I suggest the following text for the entirety of this section on the poll: The Phillips Academy Poll, run by two students, attained national prominence in 2021. The poll’s findings, attained through random digit dialing, reflected demographics in new ways and were welcomed by the international scientific community. Coverage took place in major news media. It was the first public opinion poll to be conducted by high-school students. --Melchior2006 (talk) 07:16, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I also agree with shortening it to this length. This version by Melchior2006 clearly explains what makes the poll significant and relates it to the school without going into details that don't support the main topic (Phillips Academy). I would, however, remove the part stating "The poll’s findings, attained through random digit dialing, reflected demographics in new ways and were welcomed by the international scientific community.", as the poll wasn't referenced by the scientific community and isn't scientific. Once shortened to this length, is it necessary to keep it as its own section though? In my opinion, it would fit naturally under the paragraph regarding the Phillipian. GuyHimGuy (talk) 18:15, 2 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Even then, their names provide no value to the article considering those individuals aren't notable for anything else significant. If they were, it'd make sense to include their names as a reader would be able to click internal links to find out more about them, but as of now, their names are just extra information. GuyHimGuy (talk) 18:33, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Your suggestion for making it even shorter sounds good to me. And yes, that means dropping the section heading and integrating the content above, as you propose. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 19:22, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Modifications were made based on what's consistent with the WikiProject Schools article guide listed in the notice. I really hope an experienced editor from that project leaves a comment though so we wouldn't have a back and forth with another sock if/when that user comes back. GuyHimGuy (talk) 01:32, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC on The Phillips Academy Poll 

message: I suggest that we keep this chart, but reduce the number of years given. We don't need annual tracking. Every five years is fine. -- Melchior2006 (talk) 19:57, 2 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The table's bulkiness affects readability (WP:NOTDB). GuyHimGuy (talk) 01:39, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll make the changes then. --Melchior2006 (talk) 08:33, 15 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tuition and financial aid charts