Talk:Animals in space

message: The link I copied it from said "Japanese killfish". Other sites have refered to "killifish". Are these the same? Are they the same as medaka? Rmhermen 22:35, Apr 16, 2004 (UTC)
*i was/am also uncertain. Badanedwa 05:57, Apr 18, 2004 (UTC)
Just a nitpick if anyone cares, there's a comment about a chimpanzee being the first primate in space, but Alan Shepard apparently beat him there. And I'm pretty sure humans are primates. User:Thaddeus_Selden 17:26, Sep 2, 2004 (UTC).
I'm also pretty sure Gagarin beat Sheperd into space; and I think Soviet cosmonauts are primates too. Conquistador48134.50.14.31 14:36, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: old

message: In this article the launch date for Sputnik 5 is given as August 12, 1960.
But in the article Sputnik 5 the launch date is given as August 19, 1960.
Could someone find out which is the right date and correct this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.114.102.202 (talk) 22:34, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That appears correct. I changed it in the article. Rmhermen (talk) 00:59, 20 August 2008 (UTC)

text: this article is not very long !? Polylepsis (talk) 14:32, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Launch date for Sputnik 5 

message: This page really needs a link to the Muppet Show's Pigs in Space classic (please...)
http://muppet.wikia.com/wiki/Pigs_in_Space  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.36.99.137 (talk) 12:38, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Lol, I have to agree that when I read the title of this page I immediately thought of Pigs in Space. But I don't see how this should be referenced anywhere here. Cyanid (talk) 17:16, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pigs in space! 

message: The title of this article does not meet the technical standard to be expected from an encyclopaedia. Perhaps, 'Non-Human organisms intentionally sent into outer space' would be more appropriate. The article could also be incorporated into other articles.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.241.67.195 (talk) 13:33, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: We are happy to talk about unintentional animal astronauts though! There have been some houseflies on the space shuttle I believe. Rmhermen (talk) 01:00, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title modification 

message: I quote:
"...with a United States Navy-trained South American squirrel monkey named Gordo onboard."
Is that vandalism?  I mean a U.S. Navy trained squirrel-monkey?  Get real!  So is it vandalism?
Mod mmg (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 23:13, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Why would that be vandalism? NASA was only six-months old and was still sending out purchase orders for rockets from the Army at this time. Gordo was stuck on an Army flight test of a medium range ballistic missile (the first test of its tactical ballistic shell configuration.) This was even before the Air Force took over missile command. Rmhermen (talk) 00:40, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If this was more about the training aspect then the agency - Soviet space dogs (and some early cosmonauts) were merely monitored from Earth, while U.S. space monkeys were trained to push buttons. Both monkeys and dogs underwent flight training like human astronauts (confined spaces, centrifuges, etc.) The next monkey astronaut Able (but not Gordo) was given a button to push but apparently failed at the task due to inadequate training due to a change to use U.S.-born monkeys instead of the original Indian-born flight candidates. Rmhermen (talk) 19:05, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, I see!  Mod mmg (talk) 07:07, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism? 

message: The Argentine flights are underdocumented. Very little seems to be available online in English or Spanish and some of that is contradictory. For the first Bio I flight, Astronautica claims it was a U.S.-built Loki rocket flight, the much copied page from Reconquista y Defensa claims it was a modified Orion II and Argentine space researcher Pablo de Leon claims it was a Argentine-made "Yarara" rocket. Some claims say that its final altitude was only 20km - hardly the edge of space. De Leon's book Historia de la Actividad Espacial en la Argentina only shows up in the Smithsonian collection and in the North Dakota University where he worked and so will be hard to check. Rmhermen (talk) 01:16, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Señor infórmese mejor. Existe amplia documentacioón de los vuelos argentinos, en especial en la revista "Aeroespacio", órganoo oficial de la Fuerza Aérea Argentina, en sus ediciones de los años 60 y 70. Deje de buscar por Internet desde la comodidad de su casa, levántese de su silla e investigue como corresponde. User: Alberto, 8/01/2020.-  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:B07:A15:6F00:A8E2:FAC:D8F3:867A (talk) 12:18, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  @User:Alberto. Please brief it in English. Thanks. Rasnaboy (talk) 13:45, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Argentina

message: From what I know of most of the 1940s flights, they were high altitude, but it is questionable whether they got into Outer Space proper, as opposed to the fringes of the atmosphere. (ditto Chuck Yeager)--MacRusgail (talk) 14:20, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Which is why we mainly discuss the missions which successfully pass the Karman Line (and a few other famous launches). Rmhermen (talk) 06:20, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I expanded the 1940s section to make this more clear. Rmhermen (talk) 19:35, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that Chuck Yeager is not associated with high altitude flights but with high-speed ones. You may have been thinking of the X-15 spaceplane program where 13 flights exceeded the U.S. space definition including two which exceeded the international definition. Rmhermen (talk) 19:34, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  1940s questionable 

message: A bit of trivia, but it might be of interest to have a list of species known to have been sent into space.--MacRusgail (talk) 14:23, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have always worried that the article was already too list-like. All species that I have found mentioned are already included in the article. Rmhermen (talk) 06:20, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which animals? 

message: The article Soviet space dogs says "Dezik (Дезик) and Tsygan (Цыган, "Gypsy") were the first dogs to make a sub-orbital flight on July 22, 1951", yet this article says "On January 29, 1951, the Soviet Union launched the R-1 IIIA-1 flight, carrying the dogs Tsygan (Russian: Цыган, "Gypsy") and Dezik (Russian: Дезик) into space". Which is it? AMCKen (talk) 02:30, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question, the best sources I can find after a brief look appear to confirm 22 July 1951 as the correct date.  I have seen one or two less reliable sources state 29 July (perhaps confusing this with the subsequent failed flight with only Dezik and another dog) and perhaps in turn this changed to january.  If it is indeed incorrect this has amazingly survived from 2004, it was in the article from the very beginning! 02:44, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed; always good to do a bit of fact checking! I changed it to July 22, since that's what Siddiqi says. Mlm42 (talk) 19:18, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Dates

message: This article is missing animal flight from China on the Shenzhou spacecreaft - mainly because we lack good sources. The Shenzhou II article is still unclear on what animals flew in 2001 or what their fate was. Even in the most recent EU/China biological experiments, all of the animals were poorly-explained Chinese-only experiments. One finds mention of Bulinus australianus, a spiral snail, but not a recognized species according to Wikipedia. Any new, good sources we be an improvement for this missing area. Rmhermen (talk) 17:20, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: China

message: The species identification of this Argentian astro-monkey is problemmatic. None of our few sources on this program mention a species and online sources sem to indicate that a cai monkey may be "a capuchin monkey" (which species?), a black-tufted capuchin (doesn't match image in ), or a spider monkey (which species?). Better Argentinian sources would be nice. Rmhermen (talk) 18:14, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: From googling around it looked like mono caí only refers to a kind of capuchin monkey. Since the latter phrase, though vague, is more common in English than "cai monkey" I wanted to change it. If Juan's Misiones Province origin is correct, he was a black capuchin (the only capuchin in the province). Compare Juan at 2:50 in this video with photos of less-hairy examples of the species here.--Cam (talk) 13:40, 13 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have found links which call "cai" a close releative of red and black howlers - which would be a spider monkey, not a capuchin. Rmhermen (talk) 18:31, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Cai monkey

message: Hi
After reading a BBC article about the orbital sky-dive I decided to read up on a little factoid that was posted.
It said that the first creatures into space were Fruit Flies on board a UK launched V2 rocket, yet this wiki page says that it was a US launched rocket. I searched the internet and found a wired article as well as a few [unreliable] websites stating it was a UK launch...yet at the same time I also found a few websites saying it was a US launch.
Which one was it? Below are the two articles that say UK launch.
Wired Article
BBC Article
I assume it was a US launch and a typo caused it to say UK on the BBC since I have never heard of a UK launch of fruit flies, still I am not exactly an expert in the field of rocket history. Mishka Shaw (talk) 11:23, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The BBC article says US-launched (at least, it does now.) Probably a simlpe typo. The Feb 20, 1947 launch was at White Sands, New Mexico with the experiment run by the U.S. Naval Research Laboratory and Harvard University. The first citation in our text (a U.S. Navy medical document) gives the information. Rmhermen (talk) 13:50, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like the UK only launched 3 or 4 V2's - all in 1945 and in Germany. Rmhermen (talk) 14:12, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fruit flies UK or USA 

message: This is one of the most sanitized articles I've seen on Wikipedia. While tagged with "Animal Rights," it has pictures of happy animals and cute little humans and bugs. It's like they went willingly and experienced no suffering what so ever. Congrats on the editors! Mehmetaergun (talk) 19:05, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sanitized 

message: The article says that sputnik 5 had 2 dogs and a rabbit among the other mice, rats and plant and insect samples, but the source at http://archive.rubicon-foundation.org/xmlui/handle/123456789/9288 makes no mention of a rabbit, only samples of rabbit and human skin. I haven't seen the entire video from the mission but clips mostly focus on the dogs. Can anyone verify if a rabbit was actually onboard the flight?
Legomationer (talk) 19:02, 28 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The "animals and man in space" source does not mention rats or rabbits.  mentions a grey rabbit and rats among others. Rmhermen (talk) 05:06, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sputnik 5 rabbit? 

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message: This article gives us the animals that have been launched into space and even sometimes the exact expedition, but we don't really get to see why the animals were sent to space or what we learned by sending these animals to space. Is there a reason that this information hasn't been added or will this need to be added to the article?
-Biggerstaffjustin (talk) 01:50, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Information 

message: This would be consistent with the lead. Apokrif (talk) 00:45, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The current title meets all five WP:CRITERIA. Adding "non-human" would violate the conciseness and consistency criteria and wouldn't be an improvement. It's OK to be precise in the first sentences and say "non-human" (although I think we're overdoing a bit in the lead by saying it three times), but in common use the word "animal" almost always means "non-human animal" anyway. See titles like Animals in sport, Animals in the Bible, Animal testing, Animal rights etc. — Chrisahn (talk) 02:50, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Come to think of it, I went ahead and removed "non-human" from the lead. It's not necessary. — Chrisahn (talk) 03:03, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we change the title to [[non-human animals in space]]? 

message: Xfg 223.182.231.128 (talk) 09:41, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Science 

message: This sentence: "Enos became the first and only chimpanzee to reach orbit on 29 November 1961, in another Mercury capsule, an Atlas rocket, Mercury-Atlas 5." seems out of place at the end of a paragraph about Ham the chimpanzee. I don't know where to move it to, though. Please, can someone accept the task? The B-Double (talk) 09:41, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: , thanks. Randy Kryn (talk) 13:04, 13 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enos the chimp 

message: This article is very informative but very long and you have to read through every paragraph to find each animal and it's species and if it died, etc. I think a list form (like List of spaceflight-related incidents) would be good, whether that be in a new article, appended to this one, or something else. just an idea to make the information easier to sort through Henriio (talk) 01:42, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  List