Talk:College basketball

message: Although more attention today is paid to Texas Western's 1966 NCAA Basketball Championship (thanks in part to the recent Disney movie "Glory Road"), it was the Loyola University-Chicago team's of the early 1960's that were actually responsible for breaking every color barrier that still remained in men's college basketball. This included breaking the longstanding gentleman's agreement by fielding four black starters for parts of the 1961-62, and the entire 1962-63 season, as well as being the first team in NCAA Division I history to place an all-black lineup on the court (Dec. 1962 vs. Wyoming). 
Coach George Ireland's 1963 NCAA Championship with Loyola, three years prior to Texas Western's, was for decades considered to be the pioneering achievement for racial equality in college basketball. Loyola's use of four black starters, and five black players for much of the game, to defeat two-time defending NCAA champ Cincinnati left no color barrier intact in men's college basketball, and was then considered to be the final and ultimate blow to racial inequality in college basketball.
In fact, the lack of historical significance given at the time to Texas Western's 1966 championship is well evidenced by these quotes, featured in Sports Illustrated following Texas Western's victory 1966, and the Lexington Herald Leader in 1991:
 "The wrap-up of the championship weekend didn't even hint at any of this. It didn't even
 mention the fact that Texas Western was all-black." (Frank Deford, Sports Illustrated, "Go-Go 
 With Bobby Joe,", March 28, 1966) 
 "I don't know, I was always surprised at the significance placed on that (1966 NCAA 
 Championship) game," [Frank] Deford said. "The Loyola-Chicago team that won it a few years
 before was virtually all-black. That had been the big fuss. Not much was made of Texas Western
 being all-black at the time. It was sort of a discovery by the outside world that came a 
 little bit late, as is often the case." - John Clay, Lexington Herald Leader, "The Runts: Still
 Special After All These Years," February 9, 1991.
How about talking about the integrated CCNY teams of the late 40's and early 50's?  How can U.S.F. be ignored, winning two championships in the 50's with blacks leading the way.  The integration of college basketball did not have a seminal event as did baseball.  There was no first day, with Jackie Robinson going out to 2nd base.  There was no Supreme Court decision, and no congressional legislation.  It was a process, slow, bit by bit.  Too mmuch emphasis on 1963 Loyola in this article. Mwinog2777
I agree that those teams were also important, and should also be mentioned. Perhaps you can add to the article? However, I disagree that there is too much of an emphasis on the Loyola teams, considering what they accomplished and the barriers they broke. CollegeSportsGuy 08:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The color barrier and college basketball

message: Quote:
:Only ten schools have reached the last eight Men's NCAA Division I Tournaments.
I have removed that statement because that is simply not correct as it stands. The official NCAA data indicates that 65 teams competes for a spot in the tournament, and of that 65, only 64 are actually seeded. Please provide evidence to the contrary that is well-sourced. Alternatively, if that was a less than optimally worded statement meant to mean something else, please modify it until it says exactly what was intended. Thanks! Dsf 01:59, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Umm, I don't think you're reading that statistic correctly. It's saying that those teams have made the last eight consecutive (i.e. ALL of the last eight!) NCAA tourneys. And it's actually correct. It says the same thing right here in my NCAA Tournament Men's Final Four book. So now that we've cleared that up, I'll go ahead and revert this accurate statistic. - CollegeSportsGuy 19:42, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Incorrect statistic reverted

message: How is African Americans in College Basketball a larger section than History? I wish I knew enough about the topic to do something about this, but someone needs to. --Djrobgordon 06:39, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proportion 

message: The article currently seems to lead very heavily towards NCAA Division I. I think a more neutral tone would discuss all divisions and associations with equal weight. Perhaps someone could propose a lead that gives equal weight and then subsections could be developed to discuss the different associations (NCAA, NAIA, etc) and divisions (I, II, III). Absolon S. Kent (talk) 16:40, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are absolutely right. D-2 baasketball is actually very interseting to watch and so is D-3 Baseballboy2 (talk) 01:54, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting and historically significant are two very different things. There's a reason most of this is DI-slanted: it's more important to the evolving of the sport. Jrcla2 (talk) 19:26, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Undue Weight

message: This article seems to fall short on historical aspects.  Intercollegiate basketball was played well before 1939.  Just throwing it out there as a suggestion for those that might be interested in contributing.CrazyPaco (talk) 01:54, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Historical aspects

message: This article only has 6 inline citations, and they are very unevenly disbursed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Berserkhaggis (talk • contribs) 22:18, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insufficient inline citations. 

message: This article is neither balanced nor neutral. By name this purports to be about college basketball, but by structure and content it is rigidly about only one organization, the NCAA. The NCAA is large, but what about the hundreds of colleges in the NJCAA, NAIA, NCCAA, USCAA and other organizations? They deserve space in any article entitled "college basketball". — Preceding unsigned comment added by JaconaFrere (talk • contribs) 23:04, December 12, 2013‎ (UTC–5)
*  I agree the coverage should be more balanced, both in regard to the different organizations, but mainly in regard to college basketball in other countries of the world, notably Canada and the Philippines. --PanchoS (talk) 14:44, 29 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Balance and scope 

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message: Several draft college basketball season articles have been proposed for deletion at: Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:1970 Colorado State Rams football team. The eight challenged draft articles include Draft:1970–71 Marquette Warriors men's basketball team. The 1970-71 Marquette team, coached by Al McGuire, was undefeated in the regular season, was ranked either #1 or #2 for the last two months of the season, and advanced to the NCAA tournament where it defeated Kentucky. The rationale for deletion is that "these are all patent WP:NSEASON failures." If you have views on the notability of this season, please feel free to comment. Cbl62 (talk) 12:33, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
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thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: English 102

message: At least two of the phrases within the last two paragraphs of the NCAA tournament section e.g "this pandemic really effected the seniors" and "the teams were so ready to be back" not only have no citations, but are obviously written from the author's perspective. This style of writing is not up to par with the usual Wikipedia quality and standards and interferes with the flow of the page. KenricAshe (talk) 15:07, 17 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @hai smile 117.20.115.234 (talk) 11:39, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overly emotional/amateurish/personal perspective re: COVID 

message: There is nothing in this section explaining the significance of Yale University's brief suspension as to the sport of college basketball. It seems pretty clear that this section has nothing to do with college basketball, as a sport, as Yale University has at all times fielded a college basketball team and this incident has nothing to do withe rules or gameplay of the sport. The entire section should be deleted. 50.229.60.142 (talk) 16:31, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irrelevance of section: "Suspension of Yale University"