Talk:Arthur Brown (American politician)

message: One of the references gives the date of death as December 12, the other as December 13. Anybody know for sure? -- MisterHand 02:16, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of death 

message: Brown was called the "gentile polygamist", which means he had a mistress and he was non-Mormon. "The 'Gentile Polygamist' is the title of the article on him in Utah Historical Quarterly by Linda Thatcher (Summer 1984). This is why I removed the LDS category as unsourced, knowing that there are sources to the contrary as far as his religious affiliation is concerned. 128.214.205.4 (talk) 08:48, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As the note above suggests, there is no evidence of Brown having been LDS.  The source cited above mentions that Brown was called by his jilted mistress a gentile (or non-LDS) polygamist.  Another hint related to his religion coming from the Utah Historical Quarterly (Volume 52, Number 3, Summer 1984) is that a Unitarian minister was used to simmer the overheated relations between Senator Brown and Mrs Bradley when she was living for a time in Pocatello, Idaho.  And, finally, Senator Brown was buried in the Mount Olivet Cemetery in Salt Lake City, one that was used in the early history of the state mostly for the burial of non-Mormons.  It is also very conveniently located just mere blocks away from the longstanding Unitarian Church in Salt Lake City.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.2.5.190 (talk) 00:11, 25 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latter Day Saint?

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) — DaxServer (t · m · e · c) 10:25, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Arthur Brown (U.S. senator) →  – The current title is unnecessarily role-specific. This proposal was suggested by Necrothesp (and somewhat also by SmokeyJoe) in the previous RM, but may have gotten lost in the shuffle. —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 21:21, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

text: Oppose. U.S. senator is a better disambiguator.  It is more specific with less characters.  Politician is very broad.  Also, Brown is not remembered for his politic, not according to the current sources, but for holding a specific level political seat.  He was not a career politician, but a one-term US senator. As the highest position that he ever held, it is well used to disambiguate. Also, American is an ambiguous word.  “Unnecessarily” is a very weak word, despite being a big word.  Many good things are unnecessary. SmokeyJoe (talk) 21:54, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment: WP:NCPDAB encourages using "standard, commonly used tags such as '(musician)' and '(politician). It seems to encourage using broader rather than narrower disambiguation terms. For example, we tend to mark American football players with "(American football)" rather than "(end)" or "(tackle)" or "(punter)", even though the position names are more specific with less characters. Except in cases where further disambiguation is needed, of course, such as Bob Bryant (end) and Bob Bryant (tackle). —⁠ ⁠BarrelProof (talk) 22:28, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

text: Ok, I take the point on Wikipedia:NCPDAB. SmokeyJoe (talk) 12:07, 8 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 7 August 2023