Talk:Roman Giertych

message: @Molobo: You said that "Buttiglione's views are not subject of debate here". I fully agree, I was also wondering what this was doing here when Roman Giertych is not even an MEP - it should be moved to the main party article. That said, no matter where we put it, as long as we have this piece, it should at least be accurate. Now, you modified my phrase "beliefs that many considered sexist and homophobic", stating the reason for Rocco Buttiglione's rejection, to "Catholic beliefs". This is inaccurate: He was rejected because many people in Italy and elsewhere considered them sexist and homophobic, and the majority of MEPs evidently adopted this view. (At least, to the best of my knowledge, no other reasons have been put forward). That Buttiglione's views coincide with certain Catholic values was certainly not a factor, given the large proportion of Catholic MEPs. Further, you stated that "claiming their are homophobic is POV". Obviously - but then it was properly labeled as such: Nobody said his views "are sexist and homophobic", but "many considered [them] sexist and homophobic". The first phrase is a POV, the second merely reports that such a POV exists. Can you see the difference? As a student of journalism and communication you should be able to, actually. But wait, I forget that at your university (?) fides comes first, and ratio second... ;-) --Thorsten1 18:28, 22 July 2005 (UTC)

message: I have doubts about the so-called humiliation of Giertych. It was a minor incident, featured during one of interviews Tymek 04:02, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, this article does not give any sources for most of its claims. Given the notice at the top of this talk page that clearly says "Controversial material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, it is in dire need of sources.  The statement "The European press considers his attitude towards homosexuality as "homophobic in its final stage" clearly cannot be sourced, and it should be removed or reworded with proper sources.  Also, the part of his bio where he is described as "militant" should be sourced.  I don't think this humiliation incident should be included as it is hardly notable. Ostap 04:08, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Humiliation? 

message: More POV problems with this article.  In the section "Attitude towards homosexuality", it lists an incident where he yelled something in Polish.  
::"At a march opposed to homosexuality on March 13, 2006 in Warsaw, Roman Giertych said, "Stop pedałowaniu!".[2] This was a pun, literally meaning "Stop pedalling [as in riding bicycles]!", since the Polish word "pedał" has a second usage, as a colloquial and offensive name for homosexuals, derived from the word pederasty.[3]"
First of all, what was the march about?  Was it "opposed to homosexuality" or was it opposed to the legalization of homosexual marriage? This needs to be clarified and sourced.  It then says that this word he used is also offensive.  The only citations given are to two dictionary definitions (one doesn't even work).  This is WP:OR, and the section needs to be removed until someone gets an actual source for this incident and what he meant. Ostap 21:20, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it until or unless it can be properly written and sourced. --70.109.223.188 (talk) 19:03, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I also edited the see also section. If that material can be sourced into the article, go for it. --70.109.223.188 (talk) 19:06, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source problems 

message: The picture needs to be changed. 2A02:3030:810:6245:1:0:39E4:9FEF (talk) 10:52, 28 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  We need to update the picture