Talk:Baseball

message: Change:
"Wrigley Field, home of the Chicago Cubs, is known for its fickle disposition: a hitter's park when the strong winds off Lake Michigan are blowing out, it becomes more of a pitcher's park when they are blowing in.[133]"
to:
"Wrigley Field, home of the Chicago Cubs, is known for its fickle disposition: a hitter's park when the winds are blowing out, it becomes more of a pitcher's park when the winds off Lake Michigan are blowing in."
This would then be in agreement with the currently cited source which states "There is the pitcher's park version that occurs when the wind is blowing in off Lake Michigan. / And there is the hitter's haven that happens when the wind blows out." The winds blowing out are not off Lake Michigan.
Stevethk Stevethk (talk) 00:07, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: - Done, but altered slightly to make a bit more sense.  Skipple ☎ 00:37, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2022 

message: I'm not sure that it is accurate to say that the origins of baseball are difficult to trace with precision given the existence of a game with the same name and the same rules a early as 1744.
To reference the Wikipedia article on Rounders, the game that was originally called Base-ball:
"Played in England since Tudor times, it is referenced in 1744 in the children's book A Little Pretty Pocket-Book where it was called Base-Ball.[4] "
I suggest that this can be improved by merely cutting to the chase and presenting the "first known mention of the game of baseball... etc." Perhaps I will take a turn at bat and give it a try, as a previous editor has incorrectly identified the game as "bass-ball".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 240F:37:11D6:1:3401:1694:4276:5770 (talk) 04:30, 2 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins 

message: Taking a look today at Wikipedia's choice of 55 vital baseball biographies. See here. It struck me that there are some notable exclusions and questionable inclusions. Before proposing any changes, I'd be interested in feedback. Here are some candidates:
Notable exclusions
Name            	Career WARCareer WAR leaders from Baseball-Reference	SABR 100SABR's 100 Greatest Baseball Players, 1999	BillJamesBill James Top 100	TSN 100Baseball's 100 Greatest Players, The Sporting News, 1998	ESPN100ESPN's Top 100 MLB players of all time, 2022	AthleticThe Baseball 100 by The Athletic, 2019	Comments
Eddie Collins   	13                                                  	49                                                	18                         	24                                                             	82                                                 	29                                            	All-time MLB leader in sacrifice hits and assists at 2B; 10th all time in WAR among position players
Frank Robinson  	23                                                  	24                                                	24                         	22                                                             	19                                                 	20                                            	Only player to be MVP in both AL (1966) and NL (1961); first black manager in MLB
Mike Schmidt    	25                                                  	16                                                	21                         	28                                                             	18                                                 	20                                            	3x NL MVP, 10x Gold Glove, 8x NL HR leader
Lefty Grove     	25                                                  	33                                                	19                         	23                                                             	54                                                 	22                                            	Ranks 6th all time in WAR for pitchers; 2x Triple Crown, 9x AL ERA leader, 7x AL strikeout leader
Albert Pujols   	29                                                  	na                                                	na                         	na                                                             	30                                                 	23                                            	3x NL MVP; ranks second in MLB history in RBIs (2,217), total bases (6,211), and intentional walks (316), and fourth in home runs (703)
Joe Morgan      	31                                                  	37                                                	15                         	60                                                             	37                                                 	21                                            	2x NL MVP, Bill James ranked him the greatest 2B of all time; ranks 5th in MLB history in walks and 11th in stolen bases
Johnny Bench    	83                                                  	19                                                	44                         	16                                                             	29                                                 	30                                            	2x NL MVP, 10x Gold Glove
Oscar Charleston	341                                                 	NR                                                	4                          	67                                                             	53                                                 	5                                             	Arguably the greatest player from the Negro leagues; .364 batting average ranks No. 2 all time, trailing only Ty Cobb; Bill James ranks him as the No. 4 baseball player of all time -- ahead of Cobb
Turkey Stearnes 	324                                                 	                                                  	25                         	                                                               	                                                   	                                              	Ranks 5th in MLB history with a .616 career slugging percentage and 7th with a .348 career batting average; 7× Negro NL HR leader
Questionable inclusions
Name                	Career WAR	SABR 100	BillJames	TSN 100	ESPN100	Athletic	Comments
Jean Faut           	na        	na      	na       	na     	na     	na      	One of four women included; doubtful in my mind that all four should be included, though I admittedly am not particularly knowledge about women's baseball
Dorothy Kamenshek   	na        	na      	na       	na     	na     	na      	See comments above re Faut
Sophie Kurys        	na        	na      	na       	na     	na     	na      	See comments above re Faut
Jackie Mitchell     	na        	na      	na       	na     	na     	na      	See comments above re Faut
Hideo Nomo          	NR        	na      	NR       	na     	NR     	NR      	Notable for opening door to MLB for Japanese players, but we have more deserving Japanese players already on the list in Sadaharu Oh and Ichiro Suzuki; questionable as one of the 55 most important players
Shohei Ohtani       	836       	na      	NR       	na     	NR     	NR      	Notable as a two-way player (pitcher and batter) and 2021 AL MVP, but questionable as one of 55 most important players of all time
Roger Maris         	593       	NR      	NR       	NR     	NR     	NR      	Two great seasons in 1960 and 1961 but clearly not one of the 55 most important players of all-time; benefits from Yankees bias on the list
Yogi Berra          	195       	26      	41       	40     	39     	43      	Beloved catcher for great Yankees teams but barely makes the top 200 in WAR; benefits from pro-Yankees bias
Shoeless Joe Jackson	167       	52      	66       	35     	89     	NR      	Heightened notoriety from Black Sox scandal
Ed Walsh            	136       	85      	NR       	82     	NR     	NR      	Had three great seasons (including a record 60-win season), but doesn't rank in top 55 according to anyone
Charles Radbourn    	80        	NR      	NR       	NR     	NR     	NR      	Doesn't seem to fit in top 55 of all time in any category
Cap Anson           	39        	NR      	NR       	NR     	76     	NR      	39th all-time in WAR is solid, but not ranked in top 100 by SABR, Bill James, or TSN
Thoughts? Cbl62 (talk) 04:07, 9 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Level 5 vital baseball biographies 

message: This link is amazing but they need to make one for youth because there are some different rules for the youth and i think it would be amazing for younger kids
-thank you 50.227.169.170 (talk) 20:46, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 20:52, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 May 2024