Talk:List of chess players

message: I removed some names from the list of "famous" chess players because these names do not have any special significance in the history of chess (or in some cases, not yet, since some of the players are still active GM's).  There are literally hundreds of Grandmasters, many of them rated above 2600; just a strong
rating should not qualify them in this list.  Also, some of the entries were just ridiculous.
:I don't see how any of them were ridiculous - who do you think was ridiculous? This page can serve as an index of articles about chess players. Yes, we might eventually have articles on hundreds of chess players, but that's OK, we can list them all here. If we start getting selective, we have to come up with criteria as to who to include and who not to include, and I don't see how we're going to do that (I mean, when you edited, you took out Leko (who is currently world number ten and one of the world's best known players), but left in Bruno Parma (who I guess most people have never heard of)). It's better to just list whoever we have an article on. --Camembert
:(I think that removing the opening stuff about "famous" players was a good idea, by the way) --Camembert
Hello! I added a few players (a couple of US and Canadian champions, and Irving Chernev :), but I was wondering how the country associated with each player was being standardized.  Place of birth?  Country they played for/in regularly?  For example, Chessbase's database apppears to use the country they played for/in. Also, having read the previous, I have to agree with Camembert - why not include all the players you can?  If you want to impose criteria (like titled players only?) or split the pages, that's something to do in the future, isn't it?
-- Khamsin 05:53, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Old talk

message: I hadn't noticed the inconsistent wikilinking until the bot-assisted change of a link halfway through.  Currently, most of the country names aren't wikilinked, but a few are.  The consistent policies would be: (1) link each country the first time it appears; or (2) don't link any of them.  I favor #2 because anyone wanting more information about a player's origin will click on the link to that player's article, rather than go to the country article to look at its flag or whatever. JamesMLane 04:01, 12 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikilinks

message: The word notable can be interpreted in many different ways. Surely we should have a concrete definition for who qualifies? Ludraman 14:20, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Notable" 

message: I removed Richard Urwand (Egypt, France, 1914–2006) without prejudice against putting him back in if someone can demonstrate he was a notable chess player.  Richard Urwand is a redlink, a google search was unproductive except for wikipedia mirrors, no Urwand games are found at http://chessgames.com, and there are no Urwand games in my Fritz/Chessbase database. 71.82.170.150 06:33, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who is [[Richard Urwand]]? 

message: I would suggest to add external links for red-linked names (like I did for Abram Rabinovich), according to wikipedia:Verifiability policies. `'mikka (t) 16:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a good idea, but once you have a single reference, that's already enough to write a decent stub. Shalom Hello 02:02, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Verifiability

message: There is a discussion on correctness of original names usage. I suggest  to look at solid sources on chess. One of the best is http://www.olimpbase.org/ (see, http://www.olimpbase.org/statistics/all_id01.html).
Mibelz 9:35, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is some ambiguity for some names, such as David Janowski or Dawid Janowski; and Aron Nimzovich or Aron Nimzowitsch.  Both spelling variants can be found in chess literature.  For list purposes, it is acceptable to choose any valid name, even if it is a redirect and not an article title. Shalom Hello 02:08, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The original names (in their own languages)

message: Should we create a separate section for women chess players?  I think we should because they compete in women-only tournaments, and have a women's world champion, so it is a relevant distinction - but I'd like some approval (even silent approval) so that if I do it, nobody will object. Shalom Hello 05:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I rather think we shouldn’t, as it would imply the POV that women’s brains were not quite up to the standard of men’s brains. (Not something I have noticed.) —Ian Spackman 13:29, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separate section for women? 

message: I would like to continue to point out my objection to listing Edgar Allan Poe as an "avid" player of chess. I am very well aware of his essay on Maelzel's Chess Player (in fact, I wrote a fair amount of the article on it) but I have yet to find evidence that Poe himself was a player, let alone an "avid" one. It's like suggesting that Oscar Wilde was an accomplished painter because he wrote The Picture of Dorian Gray. Even the description on this list says, "The people in this list are famous in other areas of activity, but are known to have played chess or maintain a current interest in chess." So, someone needs to provide a source that shows he played chess or maintained an interest in chess. Frankly, Poe's inclusion on this page lies somewhere between misleading and absolutely incorrect. I suggest his name be removed (again) until a source is found that shows real evidence beyond conjecture. Please consider reading WP:V in particular if you want to make a case for Poe. --Midnightdreary 01:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest changing the introductory wording to "famous people who show/showed an interest in chess" or some such phrase. It covers a multitude of levels of engagement. I will do this in a few days, unless I hear to the contrary. Brittle heaven 01:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Rename it as you will but I still don't think Poe belongs on that list. The essay which serves as the only (circumstantial) evidence being used to merit his inclusion actually has very little to do with chess. Again, there is no evidence that Poe had any interest in chess whatsoever other than a familiarity that the game existed (surely, that by itself does not merit a listing here, does it?). Ultimately, Poe's listing here is a violation of original research and is not verifiable. Please, listen to reason here! I don't know how else to argue this... --Midnightdreary 01:41, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edgar Allan Poe 

message: Shouldn't this be renamed as "List of known Chess players"? Permafry42 (talk) 00:38, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename

message: This seems to be trivial, unsourced, original research & unsustainable in its current state. It's effectively meaningless due to the overly broad criteria applied... I've placed a tag, and was tempted remove it entirely. Is this an essential part of the list for some category or Wikipedia infrastructure. If not, I Support removing it... thoughts? Boogerpatrol (talk) 15:21, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree; it should be deleted. Toccata quarta (talk) 18:18, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Some do have a perhaps notable connection, e.g. Humphrey Bogart.  He organized tournaments.  See this. Bubba73 You talkin' to me? 20:35, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Famous people connected with chess" section is [[WP:OR]]? 

message: Can the name Sultan Kahn be added if it hasn't been already? Briaboru (talk) 05:12, 14 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sultan Kahn