Talk:List of best-selling singles in the United States

message: "Just Dance" ha vendido alrededor de 5.911.000 millones de copias digitales en los Estados Unidos. "Poker Face" la canción ha vendido 5,84 millones pagados descargas digitales en los Estados Unidos según Nielsen SoundScan. "Bad Romance" la canción ha vendido más de 4 millones de descargas digitales en los Estados Unidos, según Nielsen SoundScan
:En esta página se suelen usar más links de la RIAA que la fuente que usted cita, Nielsen SoundScan. No sé cuando habra dejado su comentario, pero le informo que "Just Dance" ya ha recibido una certificación de 6× platino y "Bad Romance" también ya se encuentra en la lista, en la sección de "Over 5 million". Mauri96 (talk) 01:04, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Certificaciones de Lady Gaga 

message: Considering that we are now going by actual sales and not RIAA-certified shipments, I was wondering if we could add the singles that were mentioned as not having been certified and also modify the "Notes about RIAA certification" section.
These are the uncertified (or low-certified) singles mentioned in the article I was referring to:
:*"Rudolph, the Red-Nosed Reindeer" (8 million sales reported)
:*Crosby's "Silent Night" (7 million)
:*Vernon Dalhart's "The Prisoner's Song" (7 million)
:*the Mills Brothers' "Paper Doll" (6 million)
:*Patti Page's "The Tennessee Waltz" (6 million)
:*Gene Austin's "My Blue Heaven" (5 million)
:*Ben Selvin's "Dardanella" (5 million)
I'm pretty sure that the source all these sales figures were quoted from is Joel Whitburn's Pop memories, 1890-1954. 
If that's not the case, a good place to start looking for non-certification-dependent sales is here. Of the two books, only the latter's contents are searchable.--Mαuri’96  “...over the Borderline” 19:50, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, certifications can be used for digital (paid downloads + ringtones) sales because they're based on sales. It's a different case for physical sales which are sometimes overshipped. Globally, if a source clearly proves that a single has sold X million copies without having been certified, I'm definitely okay with it. Some songs will never get certified. · Mcdonalds (talk · cont), at 23:38, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncertified singles 

message: why does somebody keep on reposting the singles that have sold over 3 million copies??? with the rapid increase in music downloading in the united states, i think only the very best should be posted here, and that is from 4 million copies and above, since these are the ones easily to sell over 5 million copies worldwide.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.202.175.25 (talk) 04:22, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. In the present day selling three million copies of singles is not such an unusual, once-in-a-career event. However, I think we should wait for others to voice their opinions and reach a consensus to solve this dilemma once and for all.--Mαuri’96  “...over the Borderline” 23:37, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I stumbled across his last night on STiki and I restored the section solely because it was section blanking. I agree, three million is too small an amount to say anything about any song. AS stated, with the advent of digital music, this is too small a number. As a note to the IP who removed it, please do not remove the section, till proper consensus is reached. --Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:23, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Over 150 songs have sold over 3 million paid digital downloads to date whose 90-100 less than 4 million. Including ringtones, this becomes just impossible to keep up. Let's remove the 3 million section. · Mcdonalds (talk · cont), at 16:00, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  3 million section 

message: why were many  other hits erased? lack of sources?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 112.208.30.30 (talk) 05:53, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  inc 

message: Pre-download it was much harder to sell multi-million (mainly because of price compared with today's almost giveaway pricing). Would you consider having a section for physical multi-platinum singles - going down to 2 million. I  don't think there would be too many altogether.(Coachtripfan (talk) 11:42, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds like a reasonable and helpful change. I voice my support for it.--Mαuri’96  “everything and nothing always haunts me…” 03:15, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Different sections for physical and download singles? 

message: Payphone should be at 5,286,000. Link to source: http://music.yahoo.com/blogs/chart-watch/week-ending-aug-4-2013-songs-blur-200048881.html
Bottom of Page I requested Maroon 5's Overexposed single sales, and was answered by Paul Grein.
Paul Grein 1 hour ago 
I just happen to have that right here.
Payphone: 5,286,000
One More Night: 4,349,000
Daylight: 1,954,000
Love Somebody: 997,000
72.39.212.131 (talk) 22:31, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done --Mαuri’96  “everything and nothing always haunts me…” 19:37, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 7 August 2013 

message: RIAA Crowns Katy Perry Top Certified Digital Artist Ever source 1, source 2 77.44.232.141 (talk) 13:00, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: No, Perry has not sold 72 million singles. Those links clearly state the certifications are from a combination of singles downloaded + streaming which is why until Nielsen SoundScan numbers for Perry's total sales are not reported, she won't be #1 on that list, whatever RIAA says so since they work on shipments, not sales. —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 04:47, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  to ten best selling artists 

message: 114.108.228.80 (talk) 00:20, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: —Indian:BIO · [ ChitChat ] 07:00, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 July 2014 

message: I saw that on the list of the top-selling digital artists you used the sales figures of the last the Billboard sales update for Lady Gaga's sales (), but they only reported her singles sales figures on that report, they didn't give a general number for all of her singles and album tracks combined, like they did on their August 2013 report (), which said she had sold a combined 46,322,000 singles and album tracks at the time. If we sum up the sales figures for her top-selling singles they gave on that report, the total is 41,495,000 singles sold, so if we substract to the total combined song sales (46,322,000) her singles sales (41,495,000) we get an aproximate of 4,827,000 album songs sales at that time, if that figure is added to the top-selling singles figure they gave in the latest report, her total songs sales would be of at least 52,176,000 copies sold.
FredeGermanotta (talk) 23:50, 13 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: this all is the very definition of WP:SYNTH and WP:OR and grossly violates them. Sorry it cannot be accepted. —Indian:BIO [ ChitChat ] 05:51, 14 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lady Gaga's total sales 

message: Add "Wrecking Ball" by Miley Cyrus.
http://www.riaa.com/gold-platinum/?tab_active=default-award&ar=MILEY+CYRUS&ti=WRECKING+BALL
~Tridor (talk) 18:08, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: RIAA counts sales + streaming. Find a source for pure sales. Cornerstonepicker (talk) 03:10, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add "Wrecking Ball" by Miley Cyrus. 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: It seems that today's 4 million copy mark is yesterday's 3 million copy mark. I propose deleting this section. Richard Hendricks (talk) 18:43, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The definition of a best selling album in the US is RIAA Diamond certification (10 million copies) or greater. I propose the definition of a best selling single be defined as greater than 5 million copies (10/2). -Richard Hendricks (talk) 20:49, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to remove the 4 million and over section 

message: WHY IS CANDLE IN THE WIND 97 ONLY AT 839000 IN THE BEST SELLING SINGLES IN THE AMERICAN LIST WHEN IT HAS CLEARLY SOLD OVER 11 MILLION OR AT THE VERY LEAST ITS DIAMOND CERT OF 10 MILLION COPIES SOLD07:46, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  candle in the wind 

message: the chart begins to include 5 million in the 6 million section not sure if its my screen, wont fix it due to LOI. DANIELTHEDON (talk) 19:17, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  broken?chart... 

message: chartdata.org should not be considered a reliable source. Richard Hendricks (talk) 04:33, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  chartdata.org 

message: WHAT A LOAD OF NONSENSE RIAA CERTIFICATION PROCESS REALLY IS WHEN IT CONCERNS DIGITAL SINGLES. YOU HAVE SINGLES SELLING ONLY 6 .5 MILLION IN REAL TERMS BUT ARE CERT AT 12X YET SINGLES THAT HAVE SOLD OVER 7 MILLION ARE CERT AT ONLY 11X  WHAT CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!06:35, 23 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  CERTIFICATION 

message: The listing of best-selling digital singles should be limited to those singles that have achieved RIAA Diamond Certification or better. Richard Hendricks (talk) 17:44, 10 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Limit Listing of Digital Singles 

message: Life is Good by Future and Drake and Goosebumps by Travis Scott and Kendrick Lamar recently went 10x platinum. Anfwepgnrwfinre (talk) 15:42, 22 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Life Is Good 

message: Someone deleted Darius Rucker Wagon Wheel 9 X PlatinumWs (talk) 12:58, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Darius Rucker Wagon Wheel 

message: The 21 million sales you cite is simply not true. From the article you provide it is 4.5 million physical and half a million digital. Coachtripfan (talk) 15:52, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  I Will Always Love You - Whitney Houston 

message: The 25 million claim is simply not from a credible source. Coachtripfan (talk) 15:54, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with this, we need to re-open a discussion on Bing Crosby in general tbqh Never17 (talk) 18:10, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: No the best source but no unreliable. I removed the source because it says, North America sales instead of "America" or the United States. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 21:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  White Christmas 

message: This list is getting out of hand especially with Digital singles, as RIAA Diamond certs are getting more and more easily obtainable in the streaming era. I suggest including singles only with reported sales and for the Diamond-or-above-certified singles, creating a new list like "List of the highest-certified singles in the United States". Ippantekina (talk) 03:10, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with this. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 21:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unwieldy 

message: Mariah Carey's All I Want for Christmas Is You says it has 14x Platinum, apparently digital. Why not in the article? 46.132.3.220 (talk) 00:25, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Another user trimmed the list to the highest-reported digital sales, instead of the highest-certified RIAA singles, because is getting more and more easily obtainable in today's era. Last report made by Luminate/Nielsen SoundScan ( 2021), say the song sold 3.7 million digital tracks. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 21:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: There are a number of 14x Platinum songs such as Royals and All I Want for Christmas Is You which appear to be missing, because the list of best-selling songs is based on Luminate/Nielsen SoundScan data, which is not publicly available. The only way the list can be updated is when someone like Billboard writes an article that lists the actual digital sales. So this becomes a list of songs that have an article written about them, rather than a list of actual sales or certifications. ~~ Xagent86 (Talk | contribs) 04:37, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mariah Carey's Christmas song