Talk:Bhavana

message: I added some notes today in an attempt support some of these article's existing statements.  I also did two things that I think are more questionable and that I want to thus identify here:
* I changed the phrase "teachings of the Buddha" to "Buddhist teachings" because I was uncertain to what degree the identified compound terms were included in the Pali Canon or agamas, and thus which ones could – by even traditional standards – be attributed to the Buddha.  Given the current wording, I think this is still a worthwhile change since, at least in the suttas thus far identified in the end notes, only the terms citta-bhavna and kaya-bhavana are mentioned in a sutta directly attributed to the Buddha (MN 36).  My search for the identified terms was very restricted though (e.g., mostly done using www.bodhgayanews.net/pali.htm) so I am way open to being proved wrong (and, in fact, would appreciate the education).
* I added "citation needed" () tags to samatha-bhavana and vipassana-bhavana because I could not readily find these terms in the canonical texts and, moreover, because I think Thanissaro might even suggest that such terms are post-canonical (e.g., see Thanissaro, 1997?).  Please don't take my "citation-needed" tags as any form of rebuke; really, I'd simply like the additional information, if it exists, or a more accurate statement.
Thanks for any help! With metta, Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 05:28, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: FWIW, upon subsequent re-reading, I see the PED references the paracanonical Nettipakarana's (in particular, Nett 91) use of samatha-vipassana in the context of bhavana and thus cited that as a segue to the phrases samatha-bhavana and vipassana-bhavana.  I'm hoping this might help the article though would still appreciate any earlier citations. - Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 23:09, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

text: FWIW2: I've found that MN 151 includes bhāvitā kho me samatho ca vipassanā cā, etc., so I'll update this page yet again shortly.  (Still awaiting a canonical samatha-bhavana or vipassana-bhavana reference though ;-) ) - Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 03:01, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  cn-tag added to samatha- and vipassanā-bhāvanā 

message: With this edit a reversion was made to wrong info, as far as I can see. Samadhi is concentration; "tranquil-wisdom" refers to vipassana. Same for absorbed concentration: that's not about "the present moment", but about fixation on an object. Joshua Jonathan -Let's talk! 04:55, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Samadhi 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hi, I'd like to recommend that Glenn Wallis' quote be removed or at at least made less prominent. His idea, that bhāvanā is closely related to the metaphor of agriculture, has no citation in his work, and Wallis claims no more basis than his own imagination. It's a nice bit of poetry, but it's misleading to pretend that it's a serious explanation of the word. Bhū is the most fertile root in Pali, and by the time of the Buddha its derivatives have long lost any concrete metaphorical associations. 
Neither the Pali nor Sanskrit dictionaries list any such usage:
https://suttacentral.net/define/bh%C4%81van%C4%81
http://sanskritdictionary.com/?iencoding=iast&q=bh%C4%81van%C4%81&lang=sans&action=Search
With such a common term, surely it is possible to quote an actual authority.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 1.144.111.186 (talk) 23:23, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wallis' quote