Talk:Nichiren/Archive 2

message: The addition of this section is a good way to deal with this issue (different interpretations of the Dai-Gohonzon) because it lets the article present both views. Good move...
But the section needs more work.
First, I think you should remove the loaded language—stuff like "...Nichiren never once refers..." and "Such a contention defies reason in light of the fact...", etc.) As it stands, this section reads more like you are arguing a point to which you are emotionally commited than presenting an alternative perspective for an encyclopedic article.
Second, you need to tighten the prose a bit, as well as say who it is who has come to the conclusions you allude to (i.e., that there is no evidence—remember, NS and others claim that there is evidence, and how to interpret the passage in "On Persecutions Befalling the Sage" (聖人御難事) referring to Nichiren's fulfillment of his mission is only one of them). Also, remember that you claim above that most authorities on this matter think in a certain way, but you fail to name them.
Finally, I think it would be a good idea if you registered as a contributor, and read and observed the conventions for making contributions.
Also, a point of contention:
*"Nichiren Shoshu tradition holds that the execution of three followers whose heroic loyalty and devotion to faith apparently did not even warrant the briefest mention..."
:The Nichiren Shoshu tradition holds no such thing. Be more careful in your choice of words: that "the execution of three followers...apparently did not even warrant the briefest mention" is someone else's conclusion, not Nichiren Shoshu's. If "apparently" is supposed to modify "holds", then it would be better if you reworded this "apparrently holds" to make it more obvious that you are (re)stating an opinion, not a fact. But inasmuch as it is an opinion (that reads like an accussation), it might not belong in Wikipedia.
Best regards, Jim_Lockhart 15:36, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Jim, I originated this section. I am learning how Wikipedia works. I've taken your suggestions and amended the text accordingly. Thanks. --Faith Likewater 18:53, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "Today there are people who have faith...and others that tend to discard [it]...." I look forward to your commentary - R--70.21.220.149 04:12, 12 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Sorry Jim, it wasn't meant in a negative way at all! I was just referencing a line from the Gosho. Faith's name reminded me of it, and made me smile, and wonder what more s/he will have to say. I was actually trying to express my joy and appreciation for him/her. It also reminded me to have more faith myself, and to always "trust in the strategy of the lotus sutra" which I tend to forget. I guess I was too cryptic. Anyway, this is Ruby. (I thought you knew me by now.) - R --141.153.236.128 03:12, 13 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Thanks Ruby and Jim. Don't know if I have much more to say on this topic. Or if I will  contribute more to Wikipedia in general. But I might. I wrote this article because I discovered in Nichiren's writings some information that I thought was important. Thanks again. --Faith Likewater 16:51, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I hope you will. I would like to hear more about what you thought was important. And you might also be interested in the discussions on Daisaku Ikeda and SGI as well. Peace. - Ruby--151.198.23.150 06:19, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Addition of section "No known documentary evidence by Nichiren that he inscribed the Dai-Gohonzon"

message: The following text block  seems not to be connected with the rest of the text in this section:
Nichirō agreed with Nisshō's defense of Nichiren as a Tendai reformer[citation needed]. He founded a practice hall that became part of Ikegami Honmon-ji, the site of Nichiren's death. His school is now part of Nichiren-shū. 
JimRenge (talk) 13:34, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Treatise (first remonstrance)

message: A "good" example of how 'Fanatiscism leads to Vandalism' is what an editor:Radd Mitchell (see history of article)  has been doing so far. According to him, Nichiren Buddhism is practiced only by Nichiren Shoshu and cannot bear the weight of the truth in reality that other groups also practice Nichiren Buddhism (according to their interpretation). In an environment of a temple, you can assert your POV that only Shoshu practices Nichiren's Buddhism - but in the environment of academic presentation, or an encyclopedia, reality must be impartially presented. Hijacking Wikipedia to put biased and incorrect advertisment for the priesthood speaks by itself of how immature and narrowminded taught fanaticism is. 
Just to clarify how fanaticism and one-side stubborn teachings of priests can lead to disasters, take a look at the MiddleEast. In this Wiki environment Fanaticism leads here to Vandalism of articles - but the same spirit of fanaticism can develope in war stituations to violence as well. In fact suppression of the truth and enforcement of one side's view only is an act of violence. SafwanZabalawi (talk) 01:19, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fanaticism leads to Vandalism