Talk:Roberto Carlos

message: I think citizenship and nationality are not the same thing. So I think that the phrase "received Spanish citizenship but maintained his Brazilian nationality as well" has to be modified.
Citizenship and nationality are the same thing. If you are a citizen of denmark (for example), you are thus a danish national. Just 2 different ways of saying the same thing. This sentence does not need to be modified.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.60.247 (talk) 17:43, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  About citizenship and nationality 

message: That's a pretty ridiculous picture of Carlos...can we change it?
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True, unfortunately it seems that the photographer appeared to have attempted for a flawless photo of Roberto Carlos but failed, and yes it should be changed
:: Love the picture...kinda looks like he's shrugging, probably after scoring an amazing free kick (yes, I realize he is still wearing a warm-up jacket, but you get the point).  Jairuscobb 19:21, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well he is roberto carlos after all...But I agree that the picture should be changed. Perhaps would get one that looks a little more professional. It does look like he's been photographed on a mobile phone here. Lets raise the standard of wikipedia please.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.60.247 (talk) 19:18, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: What is the ratio of free kicks taken/free kicks scored for Carlos?  It's very poor I'm sure.  He has been living off the fame of one free kick for years.  A well-known British tv commentator recently said (on air during a Brazil World Cup match) that since "that" goal he had seen dozens of Carlos free kicks, for club and country, and had yet to see him score a goal, commenting that if they forgot about one lucky goal a decade ago and let the much more talented and effective free-kicker Juninho takes the kicks they'd score twice as many goals every match (also clearly a thinly-veiled attack on the number of free kicks awarded to Brazil).  If this article is going to wax lyrical about one lucky goal many years ago it should mention the fact that his reputation on this basis is not entirely deserved, given his efficacy since, otherwise this article is eulogy and not factually encyclopaedic.  PS  It was a lucky goal: he is said to practice such free kicks for hours a week and yet has never scored another one like it in ten years.  Fluke caused by the ball, not the kicker. 86.17.246.75 11:49, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Go find a message board if you want to thrown your opinions around.  If you can substantiate any of that with soures that fit WP:CITE then include it, otherwise, we can't.  Additionally, visit www.youtube.com and type in "Roberto Carlo Free Kicks" and you'll get dozens of videos of him scoring free kicks. Batman2005 14:18, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Those free kicks 

message: Why does Roberto Carlos not play in one more World Cup.  We want to see him in South Africa in 2010.  He can do it!
He has prooved to be a star player and should have enough stamina to show his stuff to us in South Africa. We love his soccer skills and were looking forward to see him down here.
If Zidane could play till his late thirtys then so can Carlos.  
Roberto Carlos a suberp player, who in retrospect is even a greater player than the world famous Ronaldo.
:This isn't a message board, go find one of those and post your opinions there. Batman2005 00:38, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ONE LAST WORLD CUP 

message: Considering RC is one of the World's greatest ever footballers and probably one of the most famous, there is very little info about the clubs he has played for, what he has done etc.
 
:Agreed. World Champion, Over 600 official matches for Real Madrid, two-time Champions League winner... I have reorganized the sections, tagged the article, and placed a request for expansion. I'll give it a couple of weeks, and if no real improvements are made, I'll tackle it myself. --ChaChaFut 06:38, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Did he really kill someone with a free-kick? Sounds a little bit too dramatic... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.236.67.33 (talk) 16:35, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where did you hear that? ChaChaFut 05:34, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article should be extended 

message: "He was a member of Brazil's team Emmanuel the 1996 Summer Olympics"  - huh? ChrisTheDude 14:32, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What on earth does this mean......? 

message: Shoudn't  Roberto Carlos be considered as a  Wingback rather than a  Fullback? I mean, if he is not considered one, then who is? --Udonknome 20:25, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Position 

message: The number of goals is wrong, but there is an hidden advice , and I couldn´t find wich goals and games are for league or not. For example, the number of games and goals that he plays and scores for Palmeiras is exactly the numbers of União São João. Even in his site, he informs that he scores 12 goals for the National Brazilian Team and here we have 24 (the FIFA link  used as reference is broken and I only could find this ). Is he hiding his own goals??? I propose to use the goals and games he informs in his site, as he´s not a beginner looking for promotion. Any sugestions? (Caiaffa (talk) 06:41, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of Goals 

message: Under the "National team" section, the following text appears:
"The ball spun so much that the ballboy 10 yards to the right ducked instinctively, thinking that the ball would hit him. Instead, it spun so much that it eventually curled back on target."
I think the 2nd "Spun so much" should be removed 77.125.90.119 (talk) 05:17, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The ball spun so much 

message: Roberto Carlos has been selected to National Team of Brasil of Wrestling when playing in Fenrbahçe after the shamefull foul committed to Keita at October 28th, 2009.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.215.29.80 (talk) 19:36, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roberto Carlos has been selected to National Team of Brasil of Wrestling  

message: this Google result says  seedorf and luis figo have, in addition to the five players listed, have played 100 CL matches. i don't know how to update references, but maybe someone could add it to all seven players' pages? 68.150.211.200 (talk) 19:23, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ref 3, '100 CL appearances'  

message: In CBF docs (and his personal web), he is known as "Roberto Carlos da Silva", I can't imagine it could survived for years without a reliable source?! Currently only TFF said he is "da Silva Rocha" but none other reliable source existed. An alternative way is dig out he father surname and nee name of his mother. Matthew_hk tc 11:36, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It said he is name after the singer "Roberto Carlos" , thus "Silva" is his sole surname, may be on his Spanish passport, they need a Spanish like surname, thus added the nee name back to the name? according to Portuguese culture, it should be in this order: "Rocha da Silva" but vice versa in Spanish. Matthew_hk tc 11:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the full name is Roberto Carlos da Silva Rocha. I've consulted this official press kit and his profile published on the official website of the Italian Lega Calcio. --VAN ZANT (talk) 19:48, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

text: The latter was provided by external services, the former is after he obtained Spanish passport. Matthew_hk tc 14:19, 20 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Full name

message: Where are all the numbers from? Looking through the history, they seem to be changing around quite a bit. I'm new to sports articles, but the "Senior career" section of the infobox disagrees with this website, for example. Is there some system I'm missing? Leonxlin (talk) 01:11, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  accuracy of statistics 

message: "Need content for Real Madrid career from 1996 to 2004." this sentence is in the Real Madrid sections ... sounds like a comment/author note.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.145.52.82 (talk) 18:29, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment in text? 

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

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message: I've removed the following sentence:
:He shot from approximately  from the centre-right channel with his left foot, and scored. The distance was calculated by math professor Federico Ardila on Numberphile using the cross-ratio method after he noticed discrepancies in the distance in other sources.
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The video was seemingly for educational purposes, and used the free kick to demonstrate a mathematical principle, but it was not a scientific attempt to make an accurate measurement, as I'm sure the author would agree. No consideration was given to what the margin of error would be, or would could introduce those errors (the resolution of the photo, the accuracy of his measurements (using a ruler and a sharpie), lens distortion, the unevenness of the pitch etc.). Given these factors I don't think we can say with any confidence that "He shot from approximately 33m...". Perhaps the sentence could be rewritten with other news sources to highlight the discrepancy in the reported distance, and then could include this calculation with appropriate qualifications. ed g2s • talk 15:27, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free kick distance 

message: Despite apparently having 2 references supporting it, there's no way that any free kick from any player can be considered the best of all time. That sentence should be removed. Also, the graph is not specific for that free kick (it says that in the picture description), however in the article it seems that they refer to that graph as if it was depicting that exact shot  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 139.47.81.124 (talk) 19:04, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  THE free kick  

message: Hi there. I have removed his latest team info from his infobox. 
This is NOT because I am a football snob. I have been to over 250 football grounds, 80% of them amateur and A LOT of them at the LOWEST levels of the English Football Pyramid. It was me who put in the main article that he was going to play for them originally. My reasoning for taking this out is, mainly, because this is a purely one off, and only one off gimmick. Also the club aren't even in the English pyramid. I imagine there are many a former footballer from the lower pro leagues who enjoys a Sunday league kick around but we can't put them all in there. 
As I said, I support lower non league football more than 99.99% of people in England and I broke the news on here. Just don't think it's right to put it in the infobox. Hope you all understand. Take care Sirhissofloxley (talk) 22:43, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bull In The Barne 

message: According to the lead, his full name is Roberto Carlos da Silva Rocha. His paternal family name is da Silva, so I assume Rocha is his mother's name (though I could find no source for this). His given name is Roberto Carlos. Correct names include Roberto Carlos da Silva Rocha, da Silva Rocha, da Silva, Roberto Carlos da Silva and the name by which he is known professionally, his given name Roberto Carlos. Carlos is not a correct form. Dondervogel 2 (talk) 11:18, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carlos or Roberto Carlos?