Talk:W

message: dʌbəlˌyu, -yʊ; rapidly ˈdʌbyə
ref
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/w
Either delete or do something with it... I don't care... but the bickering over the pronouncation is absurd. Let alone making those who bash America look worse by bashing America because of the way they pronounce their "W"'s.
What are the IPA symbol and number? I came to this page to find it, but it doesn't seem to be here. Other letters have them.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.157.100.90 (talk) 19:49, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronouncation

message: The values on the page are auto generated. I don't know how to fix it. Unicode, utf-8, and ASCII are essentially the same for this lower 7bit character. 
W decimal 87
W hex 57
w decimal 119
w hex 77
UTF-8	87	57   119  77
Numeric character reference	W	W	w	w
194.177.226.246 (talk) 03:54, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Computer codes bogus

message: For meanings: In Japan, 'W' is often read as simply 'double' (particularly in technical documentation or electronics advertising. e.g. "W chuunaa" is "double tuner")
'W' is an abbreviation for laughter (笑い) on Japanese message boards, etc. I was about to add it until I realised that I wasn't sure what could be cited as a third-party source for this; does it need one? ~ジリー (talk) 03:29, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Japanese

message: I think most people will agree that Welsh is not a major European language, but of course this depends on your definition of major, and if it makes the Welsh people happy, I'm ok with it.--Lamadude 15:04, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Welsh a major European language? 

message: This is the only letter of the alphabet with a dis-ambiguation page at the title, and I studied the history and saw it was done with a cut-paste. Georgia guy 19:28, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Notice that this is no longer the case.  Not only has W's disambig page been cleaned up considerably and been made relevant, but there are other letters that are in the same boat.  For an example C see & C (disambiguation) MrZaiustalk 17:39, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nonsense 

message: Why is w/ an abbreviation of "with"? I mean is it because back in the days there was very little memory to use in data (most famous example: y2k)? -- Edao 21:36, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  W/ => with 

message: Isn't the Hebrew pronunciation rather due to the lack of a voiced labial-velar approximant sound in the Hebrew language, rather than the same letter being used for both transcribed words? 惑乱 分からん 22:32, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hebrew

message: the intro states that the pronounciation of 'www' and 'dub dub dub' is rare. In (at least) New Zealand and Australia it is common, could I change this? Furthermore dubdubdub is not considered rare on the page about 'www'. I will change it if no-one objects within a week. Actually, I'll change it now, you guys can change it back if you like, no, ok how do you edit without an edit link? Motorbyclist 12:58, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  www "dub-dub-dub" 

message: :     The practice of renaming talk sections by simply changing the section-header markup is disruptive. The approach i've just substituted for this section avoids the problem of links to the section from other pages (usually other talk pages) being broken, and also lets the talk-page ToC help those reading an old name elsewhere, then visually seeking it in the ToC.--Jerzy•t 07:30, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm with you man, that is just total nonsence and I'm getting rid of it now. Saksjn 12:05, 28 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Answer: Welsh orthography spells the sound u by the grapheme [w]. gwr = husband, g^wr = husbands.Other consonants (resonants) can as well function as vowels: Czech prst = finger, vlk = wolf etc. - Ángel.García 131.188.3.20 (talk) 20:35, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: When I was in elementary school, we learned that the vowels were "A, E, I, O, U, and sometimes Y and W".  I'm pretty sure that, nowadays, they're taught as "A, E, I, O, U, and sometimes Y", but I was coming to this article to see if there were any words, specifically, that contain W as a vowel.  I've found some sources online, and will be restoring the information and probably writing a section on W's use as a vowel.  —  MusicMaker5376 22:57, 17 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Isn't that for a few Irish loanwords and place names? 惑乱 分からん * \)/ (\ (< \) (2 /) /)/ * 12:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  When "w" is used in dipthongs, such as "ow" (how)"ew" (few) "aw" (flaw) the sound it makes is a vowel equivalent, which is why people occasionally call it a part-time vowel. It's the same sound that the u makes in "house" so phonemically if u is a vowel in that dipthong, you'd have to admit that the "w" in "how" is also a vowel. Oh, and the only real semi-common word that you'll run into that uses "w" as a vowel outside of a dipthong is "cwm" which is a Welsh loan-word meaning a semi-circular hollow at the end of a mountain valley.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.162.249.93 (talk) 01:07, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't think so. W is a vowel every time. i know this from learning Greek, which does not have a W character. However, it creates W's with the ou sound, just as I realized English does. Look below, and you're going to get the same explanations as I'm about to give.Take a word that ends in W: tow. When you say this word, what you're really saying is to - ou. These aren't seperate syllables; they're two vowels merged together.Now take a word that begins in W: Work. When you say Work, you're really saying Ou - ork. Say that really fast, and you'll realize that they are the exact same thing.Also, your vocal cords do not close at any time while pronouncing the letter w in any situation.See what I mean?-Panther (talk) 01:02, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  A sound like an english 'w' also appears as the first part of a dipthong vowell in some languages.  For example in chinese and korean,  you would have 'ho'  and then 'hwo'  (or 'huo' ) where the 'wo' part is a dipthong with the 'w' sound first.  Then you got 'hyo' which is also a dipthong.Eregli bob (talk) 15:32, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

text: Answer: Welsh orthography spells the sound u by the grapheme [w]. gwr = husband, g^wr = husbands.Other consonants (resonants) can as well function as vowels: Czech prst = finger, vlk = wolf etc. - Ángel.García 131.188.3.20 (talk) 20:35, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  (Section that's previously had as title both "Huh?" and "V O C A L I C  w") 

message: There is a vulgar discourse on someone hating their mother and other activities she is engaged in and is unrealted to its usage in Unix (in the Meanings for W section)thx —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.160.155.100 (talk) 22:51, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please remove the unrelated vulgarity 

message: I've been noticing on a lot of shows and movies that words with W's at the beggining are pronounced like a H. exp: family guy. stewie says cool hwip. hot rod. "why are you talking that way?" "Talking hwat hway". I dont know how to spell it like pronouncing it but you get the idea -.-
:Actually, it's a very old pronunciation of "wh", though it seems to be used less and less, surviving more in Britain than in the US. It's perfect for Stewie, though, isn't it? It's represented in IPA with an upside-down W. See  Jrbbopp 13:14, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Pronunciation? 

message: I don't think the line "The W stands for the 3 greatest things in the world 1.) Presedent W bush 2.) W for the win 3.) The halo team that goes by the name W" is factual... User:gigantibyte 14:10, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History Nonsense

message: This page certainly finds itself a frequent target for vandalism; someone really has a thing for the letter "W".  I'll go ahead and revert it.  --DestroyYouAlot 16:44, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Persistent Vandalism 

message: Where does the "w" come from names like Awastara or Bilwi or other names? --58.178.140.39 (talk) 03:57, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Miskito language? —Tamfang (talk) 05:29, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nicaraguan names? 

message: Could somebody please explain me the difference in pronunciation between the dutch and english w?
As a native Dutch (Flemish) speaker I cannot hear the difference myself. --Lamadude (talk) 17:54, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the same thing for Surinamese speakers. We just pronounce the w differently than the Dutch, so that difference doesn't really exist in our case 200.2.179.1 (talk) 16:58, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Exactly, maybe there are some parts of the Netherlands where w is pronounced /ʋ/ but this is definitely not the case everywhere. And since Dutch has a standard spelling but no standard pronunciation, the Flemish or Surinamese pronunciation /w/ is just as correct. I'll have another look at the article and see if I can change or explain this.--Lamadude (talk) 23:42, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  English: /w/ and Dutch /ʋ/  

message: Maybe it could be interesting to list the name of the letter in the languages that use it? For example Double u (english); double v (many languages, for example german) or just the "w" sound (Dutch w is just w (pronounced "way")) I would be interested in knowing if there were other names for this letter in different languages. --Lamadude (talk) 15:28, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Spanish: Doble V -Panther (talk) 13:07, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: In Mexico is called "doble u".
Double u Kago koodire (talk) 17:03, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: Words beginning with w followed by a vowel and then an r are rarely spelled like their rhymes. Words beginning with war generally sound rhyming with "for", and words beginning with wor (exceptions are wore and worn) generally sound rhyming with "fur". There are very few words, one of which is warrant, which start with w whose first syllable rhymes with "far". Does Wikipedia mention this anywhere in any article?? Wikipedia needs info on this. Georgia guy (talk) 14:45, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I barely even follow that.  You have a source?  Wknight94 talk 16:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: However, dictionary.com reveals that war as a Scottish dialect word for worse rhymes with far. Georgia guy (talk) 13:17, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Could be because the sound in English is a half-vowel, and thus more likely to affect the following vowel by assimilation. Just a guess. 惑乱 Wakuran (talk) 09:39, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

text: warrant rhymes with far for people who have the Father–bother merger and/or Cot–caught merger. How do you pronounce warrior? Warrant can also rhyme with the "normal" pronunciation like in war. See warrant, warrior and war --androl (talk) 12:48, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not for all people with those mergers..I pronounce father and bother as rhymes and caught and cot the same, but "warrant" I pronounce with the same vowel as "war" and "normal". Firejuggler86 (talk) 02:17, 27 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of war and wor 

message: So, if in German a V sounds like an english F ,  and a W sounds like an english V,   then why does the guy on Star Trek say "nuclear wessels"  and not "nuclear fessels" ?Eregli bob (talk) 15:24, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: For one thing, although the actor has a German name, he's playing a comedy Russian.  Evidently in his dialect the nearest thing to /v/ or /w/ is /ʋ/, which is intermediate between the two, so to us it sounds like /w/ when we expect /v/ and vice versa.  (Analogous effects produce stereotypes associated with Japanese and Brooklynese accents.) —Tamfang (talk) 05:28, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Star trek 

message: Is the University of Wisconsin really called U-dub? My understanding was always that U. of Washington was U-dub and U. of Wisconsin was U double-U, and this distinguished them. So I have been told at least. Others?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.175.118.25 (talk) 08:41, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  U dub 

message: In Νομο-λεξικον by Blount, some headwords seem to give separate "UU" in old script, whereas others seem to have a kind of conjoined version in old script, and in the definitions a simple modern-style "W" is used.
—DIV (137.111.13.4 (talk) 09:38, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Νομο-λεξικον  

message: Is there any chance of someone revising the history section so that maybe someone who is not a specialist in linguistics can get something out of it? According to readability-score.com its Flesch-Kincaid readability stands around 51, or 12th-grade level. And it's an article about a letter of the alphabet, so probably of interest to people well before that. 24.7.14.87 (talk) 02:16, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: 117.136.80.173 (talk) 01:58, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Stickee (talk) 02:01, 3 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 February 2018 

message: "There is no phonological distinction between [w] and [v] in contemporary German" -> Can someone verify the accuracy of this statement. It seems to directly contradict the content on page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pronunciation_of_v_in_German  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.61.181.61 (talk) 04:17, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsure about accuracy of History section 

message: The article mentions "an obsolete, cursive form [...] in the form of an ⟨n⟩ whose rightmost branch curved around as in a cursive ⟨v⟩". Might it be pertinent to list some scripts with this feature, such as Fraktur or Kurrent? 71.12.123.95 (talk) 23:37, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Since this is now marked as needing a citation, I thought I'd note that this form is visible in :File:Memorial to John Etty (18373251064).jpg, which might be cropped to illustrate it if desired. 192.252.229.119 (talk) 09:15, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Obsolete Cursive Form" 

message: 216.251.6.195 (talk) 21:19, 6 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: . Blank edit request.--SkyGazer 512 Oh no, what did I do this time? 01:45, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  369-589-217 

message: This passage in the article has no relevance. It's a side commentary making unverified claims that, even if they were true at some time in the past, are not true about the alphabet today. Should be removed. 24.7.14.87 (talk) 00:28, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: .  –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 05:49, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: "Note: Symbols..."

message: Please change the existing link to www under § Name to www, to link directly to the relevant section of the article and eliminate the unnecessary redirect link. 76.10.184.83 (talk) 02:14, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: , sort of.  In this case, expanding the link to  was probably better, since the dot is part of the prefix, and there's already an appropriate redirect for it.  –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 03:02, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2018 

message: 185.255.46.226 (talk) 12:11, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Roadguy2 (talk) 15:07, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2019 

message: Kwiiri sam (talk) 13:54, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. —Granger (talk · contribs) 14:42, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 March 2019 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Double U (artist) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 13:34, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: (plural dou·ble-u's) 
 the letter w 
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--Backinstadiums (talk) 10:19, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  double-u's 

message: While numerous English words come from Old French, there are many more English words with a w than French words.
wikipedia should give some explanations about that.
It might be related to a different history of languages:
* waste ↼  Old North French waster ↔️ Old French gaster → Modern French gâter (from Latin vastare)
* war ↼  late Old English wyrre, werre  ↼  Old North French werre "war" ↔️ Old French guerre → Modern French guerre
* warranty  ↼  Anglo-French ↔️ Old North French warantie ↔️ Old French garantie → Modern French garantie
There are also some w words which do not come from the French language.
But in French the W letter is rather recent and not very used.
* It was used to mark Recidivism when V letter was used to mark robbery https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k96169631/f588.image
* It looks like the French language had no word starting with letter X in 1694, and letter W was not yet introduced in the dicitonary https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k1280391q/f675.image  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.136.215.203 (talk) 08:31, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  French language 

message: wijdan manar iaitu youtuber terkenal .beliau memiliki banyak subscriber . beliau lahir di serang tanggal 8 agustus 2006
beliau orangnya suka membantu . beliau sekarang umur 14 tahun.beliau masih duduk di bangku smp di serang 
ayahnya bernama erma suriadarma .sedangkan ibunya bernama yetty fariaty.namanya mulai terkenal di medsos.dia memiliki
perusahaan rekamaan bernama wijdan musik production yang berdiri 2020 yang didirikan oleh wijdan manar. dia merupakan 
anak tunggal .dan mempunyai saudara yang bernama dinda gadys canakya.beliau mulai menjadi youtuber pada umur 14 tahun
nama asli = wijdan manar suriadarma 
pekerjaan = youtuber 
tahun aktif = 2020 - kini
tanggal lahir = serang , 8 , agustus 2006
warga negara = indonesia 
perusahaan rekaman= wijdan musik production [perusahaan milik sendiri ]
                   - trinity optima production 
ayah = erma suriadarma
ibu = yetty fariaty 
saudara = dinda gladys canakya 
--182.0.141.217 (talk) 09:33, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 October 2020 

message: This sentence needs possibly to be rephrased.
In contemporary German the letter "w" is phonologically distinct. I don't know what it means to say "there is no phonologial distinction" with some other letter, and most certainly not with v, which is completely distinct. "W" is pronounced like the English V, and "v" is pronounced like English F.  There most cetainly is a difference in phonology. Geoffrey.landis (talk) 16:50, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Since nobody objected here, I deleted the incorrect sentence Geoffrey.landis (talk) 15:09, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "There is no phonological distinction between [w] and [v] in contemporary German." 

message: The first sentence of the history is incomprehensible to a layman. This needs to be rewritten to a style appropriate to an encyclopedia. 
I added an introductory paragraph to give context, but it still could use a rewrite to emphasize intelligibility. Geoffrey.landis (talk) 15:09, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro to history needs rewrite 

message: Maybe add under "Other Uses" category something similar to: "The letter W is also recently used by Generation Z as a symbol with a meaning of something winning or being superior." 54vh54 (talk) 15:09, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This edit does not seem relevant to the article at hand; it is not intended as a comprehensive list of uses and meanings. If you disagree, please provide a source on the relevancy and use of "W" as slang. I'm gonna leave the edit request open for now. Actualcpscm (talk) 17:07, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 November 2022 

message: The link to the word ‘pwn’ in the pronunciation and use / English section does not appear to link to the correct article. 2A02:168:9DE5:0:E961:BE70:BB45:7ACC (talk) 22:24, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for reporting this. It linked to the correct article but not to the correct section.  I've fixed the section title in Leet so that the redirect  works again. Certes (talk) 23:15, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to pwn 

message: Drollison30 (talk) 21:54, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2023 

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thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2024f is the first thing that came to mind when we started using it as an extension for the app and I think that it is the