Talk:Yevgenia Albats/VF on the underlying problem

message: * [This is a piece of VF's answer I moved from the Talk:Yevgenia Albats page].  ilgiz 01:46, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

message: In this dispute Biophys has created this article in order to present the evidence for human rights violations in Russia and to make the point in the article Human rights in Russia. However, the initial version of this article was totaly one-sided and presented just allegations of human rights activists and other defenders of Boris Stomakhin. In order to make the article NPOV and to add other POV I have added the official text of the Court sentence and Investigation conclusion on Boris Stomakhin. Also I have added Boris Stomakhin citation taken from the official website of his organization. These contributions made Biophys personal opinion on Stomakhin and his initial version of the article to look controversial. The edit war resulted because Biophys claimed that all my sources violate biography of living person policy. He was deleting opinions of the journalists from such respectable Russian newspapers as Komsomolskaya Pravda,  Rossiyskaya Gazeta, Izvestia. See the respective version of my edit of Boris Stomakhin article here  http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Boris_Stomakhin&oldid=105173635
In order to delete my contributions from the article, Biophys had employed a strategy of accusing me of violations of Wikipedia policies. Namely, he declared that all my contributions are taken from the contradictory sources which violate Wikipedia BLP policy.  Namely he claimed that the article of Izvestia journalist Maksim Sokolov who also was a talk show showman and is very respectable and famous journalist in Russia contradicts to the website of Boris Stomakhin. It was established that from the citated passage two citations of Boris Stomakhin are found in his articles on his website, and the third citation is not found here. Therefore it was established that Biophys claims about contradictions are false. See the discussion here  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Boris_Stomakhin#quote_.22Death_to_Russia.22.
As Biophys failed to present the evidence of contradictions he chose to accuse me of other violations http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Boris_Stomakhin#Violations_of_LP_policy. He claimed after that the source (Izvestia newspaper article) is unreliable, it is not neutral, and it is "non-encyclopedic". As you see these accusations are not supported by any facts and resent just empty accusations. It is laughable to claim that the source is not neutral, sine the neutrality may be restored by presenting other POV and it is easy enough. However, Biophys pursued the goal of complete deletion of sources presenting POV which contradicts to his personal opinion. He failed to support his accusations here  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Boris_Stomakhin#Points_to_answer_for_Biophys and here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Boris_Stomakhin#Violations_of_LP_policy.
Following the edit warring between me and User:Biophys, Boris Stomakhinarticle was protected by administrator User:Cbrown1023 who told that he would unprotect that page till I reach an agreement with User:Biophys. The underlying problem for edit warring is that Biophys holds strognly Russophobic views and maintains that criminal Boris Stomakhin, who got 5 years of prison in Russia for public calls to extremism and terrorism against Russians including me, is actually innocent dissident and there is conspiracy against him by Russian government
Here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Boris_Stomakhin#quote_.22Death_to_Russia.22 here wrote the following:
 I am not talking about Izvestia at all. I am talking about this citation by Sokolov. 
 It was taken from another unreliable and not identified by Sokolov source (probably 
 RKO site). He also made a composition from three different articles/sources but 
 misrepresented this as a single continuous citation. We do not want such citations 
 in Wikipedia. Sokolov discloses his "source": Stomakhin (this is not a case with 
 protecting an anonymous witness). Of course, he does it! The entire article by 
 Sokolov is clearly a defamation of a dissident ordered by government (there are  
 numerous cases like that in Soviet history). But this is not my argument at the 
 moment. The argument is poor source - RKO site. Biophys 19:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 1)Dispute over [[Boris Stomakhin]] article.

message: As could be seen from the complaint, applicants do not show the real evidence of me stalking them, they just provide links to the history pages of some articles. It could be seen from these pages, that my edits, contributed to these articles, are deleted by users Biophys and Colchicum in no more than 24 hours period. 
Moreover, the fact that some pages were created by Biophys and Colchicum doesn't grant them any authority or powers to publish false information in them. And certainly doesn't forbid other users from editing their one-sided stories by adding relevant and sourced material.
Users Biophys and Colchicum never tried to resovle any disputes with me. Empty and false accusations on Administrators noticeboards are not a method of peaceful dispute resolution. Personal attacks and unsupported deletions of my contributions, intimidation and threats are certainly not the way a man could resolve a dispute.
Users Colchicum and Biophys claim that I currently 'stalk' them. However, it could be easily ascertained form the Colchicum contributions page that he is editing the following articles:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Colchicum
14:39, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) m Anatoliy Serdyukov
14:24, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) m Dzhokhar Dudaev (→Assassination)
03:39, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) m Democratic Union (Russia) (top)
03:36, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) m Viktor Cherkesov (top)
03:21, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Kondopoga (→2006 ethnic tensions)
03:19, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Kondopoga (→2006 ethnic tensions)
03:18, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) m Kondopoga (→2006 ethnic tensions)
02:48, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) User talk:Petri Krohn (Reiman) (top)
02:35, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Sergey Naryshkin (top)
02:24, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) m Anatoliy Serdyukov
02:20, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Anatoliy Serdyukov
02:06, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Anatoliy Serdyukov (→External links)
02:00, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) m Eduard Limonov (→Early life)
01:58, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) m Eduard Limonov
01:57, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) m Eduard Limonov
01:57, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Eduard Limonov
01:56, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) m Vladimir Pribylovsky (→External links) (top)
01:52, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) m Akhmed Zakayev (→Exile) (top)
01:50, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Akhmed Zakayev (→Exile)
01:44, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) m Template:Russian Government Cabinets (top)
01:42, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Mikhail Fradkov's Second Cabinet (→External links)
01:41, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Yevgeny Primakov's Cabinet
01:40, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Sergei Kiriyenko's Cabinet (top)
01:38, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Sergei Kiriyenko's Cabinet
01:37, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) m User:Colchicum
01:34, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Sergei Kiriyenko's Cabinet
01:31, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) m Sergei Kiriyenko's Cabinet
01:31, 18 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Sergei Kiriyenko's Cabinet
It is evident from my contributions page 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Vlad_fedorov
04:25, 20 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Union of Councils for Soviet Jews (→External links - Do not force you POV on Stomakhin.) 
04:24, 20 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Union of Councils for Soviet Jews (Boris Stomakhin is not a dissident, he is a criminal) 
04:20, 20 February 2007 (hist) (diff) David Satter (Irrelevant phrase deleted. Claims that mafia is ruling some country are ridiculous, then Clinton met russian mafia boss Eltsin? It is absurdity.) (top) 
04:18, 20 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Galina Starovoitova (Absurd - is what you write here. Aleegations are not real facts and you should correctly edit the article containing unconfirmed allegations.) (top) 
04:16, 20 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Yevgenia Albats (This is completly sourced and neutral text supported with references and good sources. Stop stalking me.) (top) 
06:17, 19 February 2007 (hist) (diff) GRU (→Miscellanea - Source says they are not GRU. They are under control of GRU - which is a deifferent thing. You have falsified infornation) 
06:14, 19 February 2007 (hist) (diff) GRU (As far as I see there are only allegations without any reliable sources) 
06:11, 19 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Talk:David Satter (→Vandalism by Vlad Fedorov) 
06:11, 19 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Talk:David Satter (→Vandalism by Vlad Fedorov) 
05:40, 19 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Talk:David Satter (→Vandalism by Vlad Fedorov) 
05:40, 19 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Talk:David Satter (→Vandalism by Vlad Fedorov) 
05:39, 19 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Talk:David Satter (→Vandalism by Vlad Fedorov) 
05:25, 19 February 2007 (hist) (diff) Putin's Russia (Unsourced defamatory statement presenting original research removed. Biophys stop stalking me.) 
05:24, 19 February 2007 (hist) (diff) GRU (There are no any references. Enforcing Wikipedia policy on sources.) 
That I do not follow edits of the user Colchicum and his claims that I disrupt his edits and Wikipedia activities are false. Moreover the articles which he refers to in his support were not created by him, but by user Biophys. Therefore, user Colchicum allegations are not supported by the real facts and are fraudulent. He just tries to help his fellow Biophys there. Moreover, Colchicum invites other users who presented POV identical with him to harass me, in particular user Ilgiz - http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Ilgiz&diff=prev&oldid=109309046. They also try to intimidate users who are supporting me and it's going on right here on discussion page http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_comment/Vlad_fedorov. Here Colchicum writes false accusations that I personally pursue him by stalking his edits which is clear lies that could be easily ascertained.
User Biophys also openly acknowledged his personal stalking of me (user Vlad fedorov) here  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Colchicum#Thank_you:
I cite Biophys confession published on the talk page of Colchicum:
 Please note that it perfectly appropriate to follow logs of other users. 
 We can do it. WP:STALK policy says: "The term "wiki-stalking" has been 
 coined to describe following a contributor around the wiki, editing the 
 same articles as the target, with the intent of causing annoyance or 
 distress to another contributor. This does not include checking up on an 
 editor to fix errors or violations of Wikipedia policy, nor does it mean 
 reading a user's contribution log; those logs are public for good reason. 
 The important part is the disruption - disruption is considered harmful." 
 Obviously, it was Vlad who disrupted our work in Wikipedia. 
 Biophys 21:24, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 2)'''Accusations of Stalking'''.