Talk:The Book of Mozilla

message: I have changed the description of 12:10 for it to correspond with the information found on the "official" The Book of Mozilla. Just view the source code of that website and you'll see a description of every verse. --212.186.144.229 19:29, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: mozilla

message: This article has been tagged for notability.  Why is this?  Also, I think I have a source for notability.  The Mozilla Developer Center  has recently started a newsletter on that page called about:mozilla.  The about:mozilla newsletter consists of general updates all around Mozilla, but, of course, it's name references the Book of Mozilla.  Mandanthe1 (talk) 20:02, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I tagged it for notability because the article does not show why the topic is worthy of inclusion in the encyclopedia. Notability is a technical term on Wikipedia that basically means that a topic needs to have received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. The about:mozilla newsletter does not qualify because it is not independent of the Book of Mozilla, and does not meet the requirements for reliable sources. Hope this helps, Skomorokh incite 20:24, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You are wrong. Most people who are contributing in this Geeky article know about Notability already.--Jahilia (talk) 01:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Notability Template

message: I have found the "about:mozilla" page for Mozilla 1.7(it changed)
I don't know anything about it, or which letters are big, and whatnot, so it would be appreciated if someone who has mozilla 1.7(the absolute newest version)
could redo what I put in to be more accurate.
: There was no new Book of Mozilla for 1.7. It appears to have started out as a joke: http://www.peerfear.org/rss/permalink/2004/03/21/TheBookOfMozilla17b/
:: thanks for clearing that up
:::1.7.2 has the "And so at last the beast fell..." verse. k.lee 03:29, 16 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  As of the most recent version of SeaMonkey (the replacement for Mozilla) at the time, 7:15 was the verse being used. -- Jb-adder (logged on as 59.154.24.146) 17:17, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Does anyone use Mozilla 1.7?

message: someone included this picture. apart from using a link to archive.org that doesn't work i don't think that this link should be included. if anybody doesn't share my opinion: feel free to comment. --Albert Feller 18:26, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Very funny, but is it a fake? It'd be nice to have a link at least, saying that it is possibly a fan art equivalent for the book 194.80.178.1 22:58, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The image accompanies the non-canonical excerpt from the Book of Mozilla found here. I would provide direct evidence that it is, obviously, a fake, but I fear that would constitute original research.98.223.162.75 (talk) 19:36, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  weird book of mozilla picture 

message: Not worth putting into the article (on grounds above), but I found this slashdot comment pretty amusing. -Ethan (talk) 23:55, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another fan verse 

message: How about adding a link to about:mozilla in the links section?
:There's no way of adding a link to that address, because it's not a standard URL; if we could link to it, your comment above would be clickable automatically, just like if I type http://example.com (and it would be linked in the second sentence of the article, too, way before the links section). Besides, it's not like it's hard to type! - IMSoP 16:41, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link 

message: Why does it seem like the explanations of the verses are so unsure of themselves (using the word "probably", for example) when the explanations are so clearly written out by Mozilla in the source for http://www.mozilla.org/book/?  
I mean, the article itself quotes the code ("will fight against the followers of Mammon (Microsoft Internet Explorer). -->") and then later reads "Some suggest that "Mammon" refers to Microsoft, whose Internet Explorer browser was Netscape's chief competition."  Uhh, wasn't it just spelled out for everyone BY the people who wrote it?  --68.122.9.164 07:13, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Read the article. The people who wrote http://www.mozilla.org/book/ are not the same people who wrote the verses. - 87.194.10.31 16:18, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "probably" 

message: The blnk references in the 12.10 verse is made from the choice of non longer supporting the <blink> tag by the upcoming IE (was NCSA Mosaic) at this time...
I would even say, everything references at this point the NCSA's cuts in adaptation into IE, which was born the same year.
FCartegnie 16:40, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the Blink in 12.10 

message: It should also be noted that this easter egg appears in Camino for Mac OSX
--GrayApple 17:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Gecko based webbroswers 

message: Pale Moon has written its own verse for the about:Mozilla page:
 Mozilla: In Memoriam
Dedicated to the tireless developers who have come and gone.
To those who have put their heart and soul into Mozilla products.
To those who have seen their good intentions and hard work squandered.
To those who really cared about the user, and cared about usability.
To those who truly understood us and desired freedom, but were unheard.
To those who knew that change is inevitable, but loss of vision is not.
To those who were forced to give up the good fight.
Thank you. Pale Moon would not have been possible without you.
151.225.64.102 (talk) 12:11, 18 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pale Moon 

message: The accompanying "Annotations" appear to suggest that these annotations were included in the original texts. This ain't so (and in fact, can be checked by following the diffs on bonsai). These "annotations" were evidently compiled after the fact, perhaps as explanations for the "Book of Mozilla" collection, which post-dates all of the actual about:mozilla texts.
The "annotation" for 7:15 reads:
: 
: 
This is hogwash. The first line is correct in that 15 July 2003 is the date of the non-profit Mozilla foundation, started with a $300,000 donation from Mitch Kapor and a $2 Mil. (over two years) donation promise from AOL.
However, the "creation of the Firebird browser, although the name was later changed to Firefox" is false. The "Firebird browser" has nothing to do with the creation of the foundation. The "rising from the ashes" refers to the Phoenix browser, which was the name of the standalone browser that would later become "Firebird." The first standalone browser to be called "Firebird" was released in MAY 2003, some two months before the foundation was established. Mozilla.org had already existed long before this date, and even the standalone "Phoenix" browser had already had 5 releases before the name change. "Firebird" was the 6th and 7th release (May and December 2003), and from the 8th release onwards it was "Firefox." 
The name change from "Phoenix" to "Firebird" was due to a trademark dispute with some company who owned the rights to the "Phoenix" name. Then, shortly after the rename to "Firebird", another company asserted its trademark rights, and the name had to be changed again. The name "Firefox" is also a protected trademark, but has been proforma "licensed" to the Mozilla Corporation. (This is why the "The Charlton Company" appears in the "About Mozilla Firefox" popup). 
One can still find traces of "Phoenix" all over the Mozilla source code. In fact, the build #define for what is today the Firefox browser is still MOZ_PHOENIX, and the makefile variable for the list of files to be made is still MAKEFILES_phoenix. To deal with various compatibility issues, there are also various instances of "phoenix" inside Firefox binaries. 
There were also plenty of "rogue" standalone releases before the "official" Phoenix browser. These were custom compilations of the Mozilla suite.
-- Fullstop 02:49, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Annotations" 

message: I think it is. I went into it and found nothing useful.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vincent Pun (talk • contribs) 12:34, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is that "Mozilla Church" a spam? 

message: The images should be removed, because they do not qualify for fair use, since the textual representation right there is a perfect replication (although that still may be infringing copyright [Addm.: Since that is not a copy, but after the image, that is not copyright, I believe Jabberwoch (talk) 12:03, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images should be removed 

message: When "about:mozilla" is typed into the address bar for Flock, the message "And when the Beast had taken the quarter of the Earth under its rule, a quarter hundred Birds of Sulfur flew from the Depths. The birds crossed hundreds of mountain views and found twenty four wise men who came from the stars. And then it began, the believers dared to listen. Then, they took their pens and dared to create. Finally, they dared to share their deed with the whole of mankind. Spreading words of freedom and breaking the chains, the birds brought deliverance to everyone.
from The Book of Mozilla, 11:1" is displayed.--Lietk12 (talk) 03:18, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I noticed this too, while this verse is mentioned to be available if you type about:mozilla into flock 1.0 it is not presented in the article.213.202.135.101 (talk) 18:43, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flock 

message: from the February 18, 2008 beta 3
Mammon slept. And the beast reborn spread over the earth and its numbers grew legion. And they proclaimed the times and sacrificed crops unto the fire, with the cunning of foxes. And they built a new world in their own image as promised by the sacred words, and spoke of the beast with their children. Mammon awoke, and lo! it was naught but a follower.
from The Book of Mozilla, 11:9
(10th Edition)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.4.106 (talk) 01:17, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: new book of mozilla

message: Does anybody know if Internet Explorer for Mac has any ref to the book of moz? mabdul 16:59, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  IE:Mac 

message: Dispute was resolved, officially branded Firefox is now back in the repositories. unsure how/if to integrate this into the relevant section.
Brianmarx (talk) 21:06, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iceweasel's Book Of Ice 

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message: Waterfox 56 displays verse 15.1. Can someone find out when this was changed? Sumanuil (talk) 23:07, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Waterfox