Talk:List of mosques in the United States

message: The following material was removed at least temporarily, by me, as I tried to reorganize the intro / history material into chronological order.  
Some or all of it should be worked back into the article, but there are some issues:
*which references support which facts is not clear to me in some cases.  I don't have the Queen et al 1996 "Encyclopedia of American Religious History" source.  I hope the Ghazali source is still on-line, but I have not consulted it yet.
*claims of "oldest mosque" either contradict claims now in the article, or their wording is inexact and more narrowly qualifying claims is needed
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Bosnian Muslims were early leaders in the establishment of Chicago’s Muslim community. In 1906, they established Dzemijetul Hajrije (The Benevolent Society) of Illinois to preserve the community’s religious and national traditions as well as to provide mutual assistance for funerals and illness. The organization established chapters in Gary, Indiana, in 1913, and Butte, Montana, in 1916, and is the oldest existing Muslim organization in the United States.
Retrospectively, Bosniaks (Bosnian Muslims) in Chicago, Illinois opened the first Islamic Sunday School in 1906. In 1915 what is most likely the first American mosque was founded by Albanian Muslims in Biddeford, Maine. A Muslim cemetery still exists there.Queen, Edward L., Stephen Prothero and Gardiner H. Shattuck Jr. 1996. The Encyclopedia of American Religious History. New York: Facts on File.
The Ahmadiyya run Al-Sadiq Mosque, first commissioned in 1922 is the oldest standing mosque in the United States. The Ross Masjid in North Dakota was founded by Syrian Muslims in 1929, there is still a cemetery nearby. 
The first building built specifically to be a mosque is established in Cedar Rapids, Iowa in 1934.
In 1945 a mosque existed in Dearborn, Michigan, home to the largest Arab-American population in the U.S. Construction of mosques sped up in the 1920s and 1930s, and by 1952, there were over 20 mosques. Although the first mosque was established in the U.S. in 1915, relatively few mosques were founded before the 1960s. Eighty-seven percent of mosques in the U.S. were founded within the last three decades according to the Faith Communities Today (FACT) survey.
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Okay, i note the Ghazali source is dated August 4, 2001 at bottom of its webpage, so added that to reference above.  I see it partly supports the 1915 Maine mosque claim, saying just: "The first mosque in America was probably build by Albanian Muslims in 1915 in Maine."  So I deduce that the "Biddleford" location and the fact of a Muslim cemetery existing must have come from the Queen et al Encyclopedia source.  I'm adding that assertion and references to the article now. --doncram 14:40, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  history material removed from lead/overall section 

message: I just removed three items from the article, for reason that they are red-links currently and notability is not supported by any description or references.  They are:
Name         	Photo	Location 	State   	Year	G  	Remarks
Baitul Samee 	     	Houston  	Texas   	?   	AMJ	
Baitul Ahad  	     	Cleveland	Ohio    	?   	AMJ	
Baitul Jaamay	     	Chicago  	Illinois	?   	AMJ	
No prejudice against restoring them if/when notability asserted and supported. --doncram 13:43, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baitul items 

message: In this August 14 diff editor  added a redlink item Islamic Center of Mississippi-Starkville.  Coriantumr15, can you please discuss here, and/or add to the item in the article, about why you think this is notable.  I haven't searched myself yet, and believe it could well be notable, but the onus is upon you to support the addition.  If it is notable as the largest or earliest Islamic center or mosque in Mississippi please say so.  But there needs to be an assertion of notability and at least one source provided, for items to be added here.  I'll pause for at least a few days now, but if there is not discussion and development, I will plan to remove the item.  Sincerely, --doncram 19:09, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Islamic center in Starkville, Mississippi 

message: I'll make some notes here about Connecticut items, pending some stability in this list article.  
*Islamic Association of Greater Hartford seems likely notable, as also does Dr. M. Reza Mansoor individually, per this recent Fairfield Daily Voice article.  Mansoor is a Hartford Hospital cardiologist, is President of the Islamic Association of Greater Hartford and "a long-time Trustee of the Hartford Seminary, the country’s oldest center for the study of Islam and Christian-Muslim relations."  Similar notice of speaker event at Fairfield Citizen article.  Berlin, CT, new  mosque is also part of IAGH. Search hits in Fairfield Citizen
*Mansoor was also founding president of the Muslim Coalition of Connecticut, an organization that is perhaps also notable, but Mansoor clearly is a notable leader:
**Hartford Courant article on panel event including Mansoor
**WTNH article quoting Mansoor in July 2015. 
**February 2015 Hartford Courant article citing Mansoor.
*Masjid An-Noor, Bridgeport: Bridgeport's Masjid An-Noor mosque in Bridgeport (official website).  It is also known as Bridgeport Islamic Society-Masjid An-Noor, e.g. in this directory.  Apparently biggest mosque in Bridgeport area.  Clearly notable, given controversy in 2010.
**Faisal Shahzad, May 1, 2010 Times Square bomber, lived in Bridgeport; articles mention Masjid An-Noor as largest mosque in area
***dnainfo
***NY Post
***Called a terrorist front, etc. WND political website article aug 8
**It was site of protests in August 2010, per: 
***this Fairfield Citizen article
***CT Post article, and Aug 12 CT Post
***"Texas Demonstrators Plan to Gather at Mosques Through Ramadan" NBC CT article
***Pamela Geller anti-islamic site article
***New Haven Register Aug 9
**Its building purchased in 1991 was formerly a bank, per Salatomatic.com listing
*Masjid An-Noor, currently a redlink, needs to be a disambiguation page.
Watch: Draft:Masjid An-Noor, Draft:Masjid An-Noor, Bridgeport, Draft:M. Reza Mansoor, Draft:Islamic Association of Greater Hartford.
--doncram 22:03, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  you might want to look at the Wikimedia cateogory of U.S. mosque images here as a guide, because quite frankly any list of buildings/structures with little number of images doesn't look interesting.--Peaceworld 20:31, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, that helps.  None of the un-illustrated mosques here had a pic there, but I added several new mosques with pics from there just now.  This list before had all or nearly all U.S. mosques that have articles, and now it has all or nearly all having a pic available.  Thanks! --doncram 02:54, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Connecticut notable mosques 

message: This is a list of mosque in the United States. What many newer editors misunderstand is that list articles in Wikipedia are not intended to be exhaustive, that is include everything that qualifies as a member of the list; instead, it is understood that it is a list of notable mosques in the United States. There are many more mosques than listed here. Some of the items not on the list might deserve to be on the list but if added, they need to be accompanied by references showing they are notable.
Please do not indiscriminately add an item to list simply because it happens to be a mosque. Please do add a mosque if it is missing from this list and it can be supported by references.--S Philbrick(Talk) 19:27, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
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