Talk:Kamenica, Kosovo

message: If sombody have UN acceptit evidence that the name of the city is not Kamenicë but is Kosovska Kamenica, then this articel must be unter the name: Kamenicë and the page named "Kosovska Kamenica" must be redirect. My evidence you kann see in UNMIK oficiale page and documentation. --Hipi Zhdripi 00:17, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Name 

message: The user of the city names in English Language (newer version from the UN liable pilari in Kosovo for such think )
#http://www.osce.org/kosovo/13982.html
The original page of the Law (1. in albanian L., 2.Serbian L.)
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#http://www.unmikonline.org/regulations/unmikgazette/03albanian/A2000regs/RA2000_43.htm 
#http://www.unmikonline.org/regulations/unmikgazette/04serbian/SC2000regs/RSC2000_43.pdf
The UN Law in Kosovo says that the only oficele name are the names presentit in  >A< every thinks als is out of Law. This is for albanian language.
RREGULLORe NR. 2000/43
UNMIK/REG/2000/43
27 korrik 2000
Mbi numrin, emrat dhe kufinjtë e komunave
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Përfaqësuesi Special i Sekretarit të Përgjithshëm,
Në pajtim me autorizimin e tij të dhënë me rezolutën 1244 (1999) të datës 10 qershor 1999 të 
Këshillit të Sigurimit të Kombeve të Bashkuara,
Duke marrë parasysh Rregulloren nr. 1999/1 të datës 25 korrik 1999, të ndryshuar, të
Misionit të Administratës së Përkohshme të Kombeve të Bashkuara në Kosovë (UNMIK)
mbi autorizimin e Administratës së 
Përkohshme në Kosovë dhe Rregulloren Nr. 1999/24 të datës 12 dhjetor 1999 të UNMIK-ut 
mbi ligjin në fuqi në Kosovë,
Me qëllim të qartësimit të numrit, emrave, shtrirja dhe kufinjve të komunave para mbajtjes 
së zgjedhjeve komunale në Kosovë,
Shpall sa vijon:
Neni 1
Numri dhe emrat e komunave
Kosova ka tridhjetë komuna ashtu siç figurojnë në Tabelën ‘A’ të kësaj rregulloreje. 
Komunikimi zyrtar nuk përmban asnjë emër për ndonjë komunë i cili nuk figuron në Tabelën ‘A’ 
të kësaj rregulloreje, përveç që në ato komuna ku komunitetet etnike a gjuhësore joshqiptare 
dhe joserbe përbëjnë një pjesë substanciale, emrat e komunave jepen edhe në gjuhët e 
atyre komuniteteve.
Neni 2
Shtrirja dhe kufinjtë e komunave
Shtrirja e çdo komune dhe kufinjtë e tyre skicohen nga zonat e tyre përbërëse kadastrale. 
Zonat kadastrale të cilat përbëjnë çdo komunë figurojnë në Tabelën ‘B’ të kësaj rregulloreje.
Neni 3
Zbatimi
Përfaqësuesi Special i Sekretarit të Përgjithshëm mund të lëshojë direktiva administrative 
në lidhje me zbatimin e kësaj rregulloreje.
Neni 4
Ligji i zbatueshëm
Kjo rregullore mbulon çdo dispozitë në ligjin e zbatueshëm e cila nuk është në përputhje me të. 
Neni 5
Hyrja në fuqi
Kjo rregullore hyn në fuqi më 27 korrik 2000.
Bernard Kouchner
Përfaqësuesi Special i Sekretarit të Përgjithshëm
The UN Law in Kosovo says that the only oficele name are the names presentit in  >A< every thinks als is out of Law. This is for serbian language.
UREDBA BR. 2000/43
UNMIK/URED/2000/43
27. jul 2000. godine
O BROJU, IMENIMA I GRANICAMA OP[TINA
Specijalni predstavnik Generalnog sekretara,
Shodno ovla{}ewu koje mu je dato Rezolucijom Saveta bezbednosti Ujediwenih
nacija 1244 (1999) od 10. juna 1999. godine,
Na osnovu Uredbe br. 1999/1 od 25. jula 1999. godine Privremene
administrativne misije Ujediwenih nacija na Kosovu (UNMIK), sa izmenama i
dopunama, o ovla{}ewima Privremene uprave na Kosovu i na osnovu Uredbe
UNMIK-a br. 2000/24 od 12. decembra 2000. godine o zakonu koji je u primeni na
Kosovu, (hier is oficele user)
U ciqu razja{wavawa broja, imena, oblasti i granica op{tina pre odr`avawa
op{tinskih izbora na Kosovu,
Ovim objavquje slede}e:
Clan 1
BROJ I IMENA OPSTINA
1.1 Kosovo ima trideset opstina kao sto je dato u Tabeli A u dodatku ovoj
Uredbi.
1.2 Zvani~na komunikacija ne mo`e da sadrzi bilo koje ime za opstinu koje
nije naziv odredjen u Tabeli A ove Uredbe, osim u onim opstinama gde etni~ke i
jezi~ke zajednice, koje nisu srpske i albanske ~ine znatan deo stanovni{tva, gde
se imena op{tina daju i na jezicima tih zajednica.
Clan 2
PODRU^JA I GRANICE OP[TINA
Podru~je svake op{tine i wene granice su ocrtane wenim sastavnim
katastarskim zonama. Katastarske zone koje ~ine svaku op{tinu su odre|ene u
Tabeli B prilo`enoj u dodatku ovoj Uredbi.
Clan 3
PRIMENA
Specijalni predstavnik Generalnog sekretara mo`e da donese administrativno
uputstvo u vezi sa primenom ove Uredbe.
Clan 4
ZAKON KOJI JE U PRIMENI
Ova Uredba zamewuje svaku odredbu zakona koji je u primeni a koja nije saglasna
sa wom.
Clan 5
STUPAWE NA SNAGU
Ova Uredba stupa na snagu 27. jula 2000. godine.
Bernar Ku{ner
Specijalni predstavnik Generalnog sekretara
tabel of contens >A<
TABELA ‘A’ (alb) RASPORED A (ser.)
Emrat e komunave (alb.)IMENA OPSTINA (serb)
Albanski Srpski
01 Deçan \Decani
02 Gjakovë \Djakovica
03 Gllogovc \Glogovac
04 Gjilan \Gnilane
05 Dragash \Dragas
06 Istog \Istok
07 Kaçanik \Kacanik
08 Klinë\ Klina
09 Fushë Kosovë\ Kosovo Polje
10 Kamenicë \Kamenica
11 Mitrovicë \Kosovska Mitrovica
12 Leposaviq \Leposavic
13 Lipjan \Lipqan
14 Novobërdë \Novo Brdo
15 Obiliq \Obilic
16 Rahovec\ Orahovac
17 Pejë\ Pec
18 Podujevë\ Podujevo
19 Prishtinë \Pristina
20 Prizren \Prizren
21 Skenderaj\ Srbica
22 Shtime\ Stimqe
23 Shtërpcë\ Strpce
24 Suharekë\ Suva Reka
25 Ferizaj \Urosevac
26 Viti \Vitina
27 Vushtrri\ Vucitrn
28 Zubin Potok \Zubin Potok
29 Zveçan\ Zvecan
30 Malishevë\ Malisevo
If sambody have a argument Im waitting. In another cases you are going to interpret the dokumets (you are out of UN Law) and you dont have argumet, you dont work for Wikipedia but are destroing the Wikipedia image. I know that my english is not so gut, but a desinformation is not gut for Wikipedia and for the peopel in Kosovo. You can have a problem with "Haage". This tabel is speeken better then I
.--Hipi Zhdripi 20:58, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Unitet Naticion Law in Kosovo

message: No argumet!!! please dont inteprete the documents 
Sombody have putit this Kosovo place in Serbia stub or category or template here with out argumet. We dont have a argumet that Kosovo is part of S/M. We have tha Constitution of this countrie but we have the rez. 1244 wich is more importen for the Wikipedia and is saying that Kosovo it is a part of Yougoslavia and is prototoriat of UN. Till we dont have a clearly argument from UN, aricel about Kosovo must be out of this stub or category or template. Pleas dont make the discution with intepretation or the Law wich are not accordin to 1244. Everybodoy can do that but that is nothing for Wikipedia.--Hipi Zhdripi 04:48, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No argumet 

message: I will pu the official name on brackets"()"--Bindicapriqi (talk) 15:50, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think this is an appropriate name. Dardanë is the official name of exactly zero places in the world and is misleading. We should restore it back to just Kosovska Kamenica.--Thomas.macmillan (talk) 18:30, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: Before two years, I have presented the argument. In thate time it was clear, thate, Serbia with or without Kosovo, is going to be part of Europe Card for citys names. And Europ Card for citys names (komuna) is adopted from Kosovar Govermend. My dier friends in English Wikipedia, you are maken not a litel problem, but with all information, you are changen the oficial names of the citys in Kosovo. 
You have taket the Serbial Law or some imagenedet rouls, als more importen thane UN Law. English Wikipedia is not working/existing under the Serbian Law, but under UN Law. Don´t be wondering if somebody is acusing the English Wikipedia for anti-UN propaganda and "spaming" desinformation to the internet iusers.
The mandat of UN in Kosovo is hight livel thane Serbian Law - witch since the UNMIK is in Kosovo, dont exist anymore for Kosovo. 
# You are working agains the Kosovo Law
# You are working agains the Europen Card for city names
# You are working agains the UNMIK - Law
# You are working agains the UN - Law
The LAW of Kosovo, Eropen, UNMIK and UN, thate I have presented here before two years nobady diden respect. 
Becose of this I acuse you for desinformations and working aganis this LAWS, and with you works here you are helping to destabisate the sitution in Balkan. DON SAY THAT YOUR HANDS ARE CLEAR, DONT BE PART OF PROPAGANDA WITCH MOTIVAT THE PRIMITIV PEOPEL, PLEASE REPECT THE UN - LAW
THE SYS. AND ADMINISTRATORS OF ENGLISH WIKIPEDIA HAVE RESPOSIBLITI TO STOP MAKEN WIKIPEDIA AS PART OF PROPAGANDA WITCH MOTIVATE PRIMITIV PEOPEL.  
SINCE 2 YEARS, ENGLISH WIKIPEDIA WITH NOT RESPECTING THE UN LAW, IS HELPING IN DESTABILSATION OF THE BALKAN REGION.  - Hipi Zhdripi  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.70.183.85 (talk) 00:26, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unitet Naticion Law in Kosovo and Wikipedia 

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was moved Aervanath (talk) 21:34, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see why not, per Wikipedia:Naming conventions#Be precise when necessary. Since a fuller name exists, disambiguator is not needed. Nikola (talk) 16:44, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

text: I agree. Move it to Kosovska Kamenica.--Andrija (talk) 17:52, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
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thread_title:  Requested move 

message: Albanians make up 80% of the population, the Albanian language is used in local administration. 
Please colleagues Serbs to accept reality. This is not the 1999th years when Albanians persecuted for their nation. Thanks--Sokac121 (talk) 11:52, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Albanian name

message: Please, why are you trying to eliminate "Kosovska Kamenica" nersion of the name from the first sentence ()?  You cited the #Requested_move_2 above as a place where consensus was reached for this, but that is simply not true. Consensus was reached to move the page to "Kamenica, Kosovo", but not to eliminate "Kosovska Kamenica" from the article. According to MOS:LEADALT, "when title is a name, significant alternative names for the topic should be mentioned in the article, usually in the first sentence...". And, "Kosovska Kamenica" is certainly significant alternative name, that is shown is the above discussion. Your edit is directly in contradiction to the Manual of Style, so you need to establish clear consensus first, before applying the change. Vanjagenije (talk) 16:34, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: conensus was reached,Kamenica is the name in English,look the talk page it was changed by votes,I am not trying to eliminate anything The Kosovska part is in Serbian language as the article says.Lindi29 (talk) 16:53, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: No, . Consensus was reached to use "Kamenica, Kosovo" as the title because that is the most commonly used name in English sources. Many subjects, including this one, have more than one name in English. Only one of those names may be used as the title, and that should be the most commonly used name. Other, alternative, names should used in the first sentence as per MOS:LEADALT. Above discussion (#Requested_move_2) only centered on the question which name is the most commonly used name in English. Nobody implied that Kosovska Kamenica is not a legitimate alternative name. So, please do not use that consensus as a justification for something that was clearly not even discussed (the validity of "Kosovska Kamenica" as an alternative name was not discussed). Vanjagenije (talk) 17:00, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative names 

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