Talk:Lough Melvin

message: At Lough Neagh's infobox, we use Republic of Ireland & United Kingdom as the basin countries. This should be adopted for this article's infobox. GoodDay (talk) 12:59, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: For most readers Northern Ireland makes a lot more sense, UK needs further explanation so I think its a bad change.  We do need to change Republic of Ireland to Ireland however as here there is no danger of confusion.  That said I'm not sure it is really necessary to conclude more than the two countries and say that its in Ireland --Snowded TALK  20:28, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no probs with deleting the 'basin countries' section. Having a sovereign state & part of another sovereign state listed, isn't quite even. GoodDay (talk) 22:21, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Which policy would that be then GoodDay?  --HighKing (talk) 22:28, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You'll have to bring that up at Lough Neagh, as there appears to be inconsistancies on these loughs. GoodDay (talk) 22:29, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The UK doesn't need more explaination so it's not a bad change. The lough is part of the UK-Republic of Ireland border.  Mabuska (talk) 12:19, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The more I look at it, the more I think "It is located in the northwest of Ireland on the border between County Leitrim and County Fermanagh."  is the best way forward --Snowded TALK  12:25, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It is hardly the best way forward Snowded as that heavily implies that County Leitrim and Fermanagh are both part of the same country and so such an idea can be considered disruptive. The lough is part of two different states and both are part of its basin, why ignore that fact? Looking through the articles of :Category:Lakes of the United Kingdom, either the region or United Kingdom is used with no consistency at all. In regards to this article it would make sense to use "Northern Ireland, United Kingdom" seeing as we wouldn't want to make anyone think that Northern Ireland is a country of the same status as the Republic. Mabuska (talk) 13:05, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh please, disruptive?  Its a minor lake and it overlaps two counties.  What is possibly notable about it cross border status?  It needs fewer words not more--Snowded TALK  13:29, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: So your proposing removing what states it lies in altogether? Is that not being disruptive? Seeking to remove information to make things more mirkier and less clear and making it appear that two counties in two different states altogether are part of the same? Mabuska (talk) 11:00, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Its a geographical article isn't it?  Is the fact that it is in two countries really notable?  Otherwise I really can't see how there is any possible implication that County Leitrim and Fermanagh are a part of the same state.  If we have to mention political entities then its a lot clearer to use Northern Ireland in the context of an Irish Lake rather than have to explain the whole UK thing.  --Snowded TALK  12:09, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
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