Talk:Howard Webb

message: Removed the following:
* In the Bolton v Fulham match, on the 11th February 2007, he and his two assistants were all wearing green shirts, black shorts and socks. However also wearing a green shirt and black shorts and socks was Fulham goalkeeper Jan Lastuvka
As this is not relevant. Many officials wear All black when the Goalkeepers do also.Statto74 10:21, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: March 2007

message: For some reason, a very high number of Poles are repeatedly vandalising this article. Although I understand their disappointment with a very controversial penalty given by Webb, let's keep in mind that Webb also awarded Poland a goal that every commentator agrees should never have been allowed, as it followed an offside situation. So Webb made two controversial calls, one for each team, yet we have close to 100 vandalist actions from Poles and, as far as I've seen, not any from Austrians. Protecting this talk page may be an idea if this continues. JdeJ (talk) 10:57, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Any from Austrians because you are happy that you have managed not too loose because of Howard Webb's help in 93 minute of match. Tha't penalty was not right and everbody could see it... That's all in this subject. T.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.16.198.250 (talk) 11:02, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all, I'm not Austrian. Never even been to Austria. And Webb's allowing a Polish goal that was offside is just as controversial as his awarding the penalty. Regardless of which, vandalism of Wikipedia is not justified by any of these actions. JdeJ (talk) 11:09, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  If you know Wikipedia rules so much you should know as well how to deal with Poles :P  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.16.198.250 (talk) 12:01, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Repeated Polish vandalism of this article

message: The user Tmol42 seems to be of the opinion that only quoting the Polish coach is NPOV and that giving the opinions of both teams' head-coaches is POV and should be deleted. I fail to see why. A quote by the Polish coach taken from the Guardian and a quote by the Austrian coach taken from the BBC look pretty equal to me. I expect Tmol42 to explain why he is deleting this and calling it POV. JdeJ (talk) 11:33, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The citation used regarding the Polish Goal simply did not substantiate the statement attributed to the head coach and the previous edit was not deficient in this way hence the revert. The subsequent edit by User:Sir-Nobby has provided a NPOV approach which is also supported by the citation. I agree not providing an edit summary is frustrating which is why I provided as full an explanation as space allowed but do not assume because an editor deletes one version and not another that is somehow not NPOV assume good faith. Tmol42 (talk) 12:55, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: POV-edits

message: I've removed the following clause:
:In November 2007, he was criticised by Manchester United manager Alex Ferguson for favouring Arsenal in the club's Premier League encounter. However, Ferguson also stated that he believed Webb had "a great chance to be the top referee".
If we want to post every referee rant Ferguson, or other managers, makes we'll waste quite a few megabytes! --Stalfur (talk) 03:45, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ferguson rant 

message: He looks like Brian Eno. Tsinfandel (talk) 17:32, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Eno

message: I've removed this section for discussion.
I'm not familiar with the incident, but this section did nothing to help me.
The title of the section is a conclusion - not NPOV.
There are no references or citations.
If there's a real controversy about this, then surely that's how this should be written - as a controversy, with references for reliable, cited opinions on the incident, rather than a POV conclusion about it ? Also, I'm not sure how the fact that the players played for Australia, and one is without a club is related - unless we're implying that's a result of the incident ? Another question is whether all readers will understand "The Toon" without clarification ?
Here's how it read when I removed it:
===Awful Decision===
On 16 May 2009 Howard refereed Newcastle United's last home match of the season against Fulham. The Toon lost 1-0 but the final score shoud have been 1-1, Mark Viduka's goal was disallowed for nothing but Howard said that Nolan fouled Fulham goalie Mark Schwarzer, this occured during a corner. Both Viduka and Schwarzer are Australian and played the Australian national football team at the time but Viduka is without a club at the moment.
 -  Begoon (talk) 06:40, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It clearly is opinionated commentry and uncited and written like a fanzine comment and should not have been in the bio, good removal. Off2riorob (talk) 10:01, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awful Decision 

message: On 16 May 2009 Howard refereed Newcastle United's last home match of the season against Fulham. The Toon lost 1-0 but the final score shoud have been 1-1, Mark Viduka's goal was disallowed for nothing but Howard said that Nolan fouled Fulham goalie Mark Schwarzer, this occured during a corner. Both Viduka and Schwarzer are Australian and played the Australian national football team at the time but Viduka is without a club at the moment.
 -  Begoon (talk) 06:40, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It clearly is opinionated commentry and uncited and written like a fanzine comment and should not have been in the bio, good removal. Off2riorob (talk) 10:01, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Awful Decision

message: Removed the link to his father Billy as the page didn't exist. Wookie Go Bye Bye (talk) 18:59, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quick edit 

message: The following isn't true:
"To date, the only current England internationals he has dismissed are Peter Crouch when he was playing for Southampton against Crystal Palace on 7 May 2005[76] and Steven Gerrard of Liverpool in their FA Cup third round defeat to Manchester United on 9 January 2011.[77]"
Peter Crouch didn't make his England début until the 31st of May. Even if were including future internationals, it's still false since he's also sent off David Bentley.
Not a big deal, but it would be nice if someone could correct it.
Cheers,
92.2.196.130 (talk) 12:58, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factual error 

message: I'm not the person to write it, mostly because I came to this page looking for information on the incident, but it seems absurd to me that this article makes no mention of Howard Webb being demoted from the Premiership for a game because of his calls in the Manchester v. Tottenham match after he was awarded the FA Cup final referee position.  Surely that's a notable incident, given how often this particular individual is accused of bias?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.229.127.172 (talk) 20:08, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demotion to Championship 

message: I have removed the list of every red card Webb has issued, detailing the player, team, minute issued and why. This seemed very excessive, and superfluous to the section "Card statistics" which clearly and sufficiently outlines how many yellows and reds he issued during each season. This list was also highly vulnerable to vandalism. Tbmurray (talk) 14:06, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of red cards and explanations 

message: Would there be sufficient interest in, and thus putting together, a table showing the teams with players which Webb has shown red cards to? I was asked recently (jokingly) whether he has ever dismissed a Man United player. The data from Soccerbase could be used as a reliable source for such info and the table could be formatted in such a way that it doesn't take up too much room. --TBM10 (talk) 00:04, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Red cards

message: Under the section "Cautions and dismissals" it reads:
"Webb has sent-off two goalkeepers since 2000-01: Kelvin Davis of Milton Keynes Dons in December 2001 and John Filan of Wigan Athletic in March 2004."
Kelvin Davis played for Wimbledon FC in 2001. Milton Keynes Dons FC did not exist until 2004. Please edit to reflect that.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by FCSchadenfreude (talk • contribs) 04:54, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for reporting the error. I have made the change and also modified the previous paragraph which referred to the same match. Keith D (talk) 13:34, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request to correct error 

message: Should we mention his visit to Fir Vale School http://www.thestar.co.uk/news/council/education/former-referee-howard-webb-to-present-sheffield-school-awards-1-6905282 --88.111.129.157 (talk) 15:11, 16 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visit to Fir Vale (School) 

message: Rotherham is NOT in the West Riding of Yorkshire, it is in South Yorkshire. Please change this. The West Riding no longer exists. Proof? I live in Rotherham and all my letters are addressed to Rotherham, South Yorkshire.
2.99.141.240 (talk) 15:23, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The date in question is 1971 when there was no South Yorkshire. South Yorkshire was created in 1974 so cannot apply to events before that date. Keith D (talk) 16:46, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 26 June 2015 

message: Substituted at 18:21, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

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