Talk:Power Rangers/Archive 2

message: The TV series is not banned in New Zealand. The IMDB cetificate entry (the only offered evidence for this claim) is inaccurate. In New Zealand, broadcasters assign ratings to television programmes under the Broadcasting Act 1989. The Classification Office has no power to decide broadcast ratings. Thus, other than the DVD/VHS release of the series (which I'm investigating with the classification office), broadcasts are not subject to censorship, and certainly not subject to banning. In fact, I can clearly remember when the first series was broadcast. There was controversy, to be sure, but any withdrawl was up to the broadcaster (in this case, I think, TVNZ), and not to any sort of banning. I'd welcome discussion of this issue - if any isn't forthcoming I'll make the removal of this factoid. --Dom 14:35, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Be bold and change it yourself. Only Kiwis would know anything about this, anyway, and I don't know of the number of Kiwi PR fans. Ryūlóng 20:30, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I was just waiting on a reply from the classification office. They had this to say: "the BSA [Broadcasting Standards Authority] has no authority to ban the broadcast of a programme." and also "There are numerous videos and DVDs of Might Morphin Power Rangers episodes available in New Zealand. Most are rated PG, meaning they are unrestricted but parental guidance is required for younger viewers.  It is legal for anyone to possess and view these videos or DVDs." So, pretty well debunked. --Dom 00:02, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Banned in New Zealand

message: I'm surprised that there hasn't been any mention to the similarities from Voltrons, sure the costumes and characters are different.  But the way the power ranger's vehicles came together to form one big being should have someone mentioning that.  I know back when it first came out when I was a child watching it, the first thing I thought of was that this was a Voltron rip off; even the form of the vehicles put together (Don't know the name of it) looked very similar to that of Voltrons.  Granted I haven't seen anything new cause I'm older now but I believe there are a few things that are related between the two.
:Considering that it's adapted from the same source that Voltron was adapted from (i.e. Japan), then there's no real reason to mention it, is there? - DrachenFyre > YOU! 19:26, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And on top of that, PR's source material, Super Sentai, did the "combining mecha" thing several years before Go Lion even came out (meaning it's not a rip-off), and both shows were originally made by Toei anyways.  I agree that the similarities are blatant, but mentioning the fact is probably a little redundant. Arrow 20:04, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Next time, please read important articles like Super Sentai next time before making a comment.. I understand not reading rovang's guide, cuz it's a link, but the Super Sentai link is ginormous and ties with every Ranger series x 2.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.205.216.240 (talk) 08:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voltron Similarities 

message: Here are all the crufty links.  Please get the info you need from them, list the links you cite as sources in the references section and delete the res. See WP:EL, and WP:NOT, fansites, forums, and cruft need not apply.
"===Fan websites===
* Power Rangers Central 
* Rovang.org's Power Rangers Timeline
* Rovang.org's Writers Guide To The Power Rangers Universe
* Naks Power Rangers
* GrnRngr.com
* Power Rangers Online
* Galaxy of Chaos, a Power Rangers Wiki
* Power Rangers On Air Central
* Power Rangers Information Archive
* The Ranger Files
* Jen's Power Rangers Online V2
* Fuñaroverse
===Message Boards===
* Rangerboard
* Ranger-Power
* Fuñaroboard"
L0b0t 23:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inappropriate links 

message: * Rangerboard
* Ranger-Power
* Fuñaroboard"
L0b0t 23:34, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Message Boards

message: I was wondering why the box to the side with the series directory info was not a field that I can edit.  I have a picture that would work perfectly as the PR pic at the top.  :Image: General_PR_Logo.jpg works just right... it is an actual PR logo with the appropriate art... don't you think so?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by RabidPanda V (talk • contribs) .
:We could use that, but that's a fair use logo and right now the intro pic is being used in a template.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:59, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a way to edit the template?  If not, why is it this way... just vandalism protection?  RabidPanda V 04:42, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: At Wikipedia:Fair use it states that fair use images (such as the logo) cannot be used in any other namespace other than the main article space. We cannot put the logo into  for copyright reasons.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:58, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And yet you've placed logos on all of the other pages, no?RangerKing 14:40, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I aggree. I have an image on imageshack totally ready to upload so we can get a better logo in the infobox for the main article on Power Rangers. It is low resolution in keeping with Wikipedia's fair use aggreements, copyrighted material and what not. So if you could respond Ryulong in a fast and fair manner, I'm sure that RabidPanda V, RangerKing, me, Nsmith4658 and a whole lot of other Wikipedians would appreciate it. Thank you. スミス ナサニアル 04:27, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The issue was with the fair use image in the template. Not what image to use.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:29, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro Pic 

message: As of November 13, the Saban-era logo to the page has been added.70.185.125.101 08:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Duh. I did it.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

text: This logo is still used by Disney, minus the Saban stamp on it. This is just a generic logo.RangerKing 01:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saban's Power Rangers 

message: I will be editing the trivia sections of each Power Rangers page. Please do not restore them completely and trust my judgement. If you believe something should be restored, restore that one or few things only and not the entire thing. Thank you. RangerKing 00:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: UPDATE - I will continue updating the rest of the pages soon. I have edited the trivia sections up to Lightspeed and began working on Time Force.RangerKing 01:47, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: I have removed this section from the article because it is just collecting a lot of non-notable pieces of trivia about every other series that mentions Power Rangers in a single episode.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 06:22, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have once again removed this section, for the exact same reasons. JPG-GR 06:24, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  In popular culture 

message: Instead of using the terms season or series, which has no doubt caused dispute, I propose that the term "installment" to be used. I also propose that all Ranger characters receive their own pages.RangerKing 20:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Installment is a good compromise, however not every character needs his or her own page. List pages like Mystic Force Power Rangers or S.P.D. Power Rangers are good for characters with very little history.—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 21:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)

text: The character infobox? Yeah, that's got to be implimented across several pages. However, not all characters really need pages. Does Bridge need his own article? Or Boom (he might, but that's besides the point)—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 01:21, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

text: ...You mean ? It was decided on its talk page that not every character with a page gets a link. Just the main teams and any extra characters that qualify.—Řÿūłóñģ (竜龍) 22:51, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propositions 

message: I didn't want to go ahead and have the article deleted, since it actually has some content this time around, but it's really not necessary, and isn't even all that accurate at this point. JPG-GR 06:58, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Meh, I've re-redirected it to this article. There was an ancient AFD that stated it was to be redirected.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:20, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Power Rangers Generations]] 

message: I've not been keeping up on PR news for a while, but Power Rangers: Cosmic Rage didn't get any Google hits.  I've prodded the article, but I thought I'd run it by the experts. NickelShoe (Talk) 04:22, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Pure bullshit. It's even a copy of Power Rangers: Lightspeed Rescue.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:05, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Power Rangers: Cosmic Rage]] 

message: Straight from Ron Wasserman on Rangerboard:
"Thanks. I've just been so slammed schedule wise. Add a (nearly 3 year old) boy to that and almost all free time is gone. All worth it though.
BTW - (you guys probably already know this) There is going to be a new animated version of Power Rangers. Friend of mine is doing the sound efx on the 2 minute promo and said it looks amazing. Hopefully I'll hear from somebody on that project.
Ron"
HAVortexDude 02:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless we have something other than Ron's word, we can't really mention it without a reliable secondary source.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:07, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Animated Series

message: In "variation between series", there is a following passage:
"No two Power Rangers series are alike, and aside from a Ranger of each primary color, almost every aspect of the show can potentially be changed "
I'm not even going to debunk this. Just kill it, please.--132.69.234.73 22:37, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How is it "bullshit"?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:58, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While I wouldn't use that strong of a word, unless a series has a notable characteristic unique to ONLY itself, I find those sections a waste of space. *shrug* JPG-GR 01:53, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia defines "bullshit" as (among others) "ludicrously false representations". A perfect hit. How can two different series of PR be soo different if there is a template for a "typical episode" elsewhere in the article? Now, it was not my intent to start a flame war and/or troll the place. It just, ahem, annoyed me when I saw this passage. Let's just settle for original research and call it a day. --132.69.234.73 19:29, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please remove bullshit 

message: "Red, Blue, and Yellow are the only colors that have been a part of every Power Rangers team." This is true for all American power ranger series, but not all japanese power ranger series, so I changed it to "Red, Blue, and Yellow are the only colors that have been a part of every American Power Rangers team." felinoel 13:45, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since this page is about the American show and not its source material, I don't quite see why that is an issue. Arrow 17:34, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are no Japanese Power Rangers series. That's called something entirely different.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vague Trivia 

message: I think it should be known that a new website has been found that leads straight to the Power Rangers page on the Jetix site:
*http://www.powerrangersbeastfist.com
This could possibly be the name for season 16, based off Gekiranger. I think an article should be made just in case. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.37.71.142 (talk) 00:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We should not be making speculations this far into the future. We do not need an article until something official comes from Disney.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 02:29, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Especially in light of the fact that powerrangersrelichunters.com was registered this year and never used.  No point in noting this kind of thing now.  Once season 16 starts, then we can make a note that Beast Fist was an official working title, if it ends up not being used. Arrow 05:11, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beast Fist 

message: I don't know who named them, but they don't have names and fan names are not official and cannot be used.RangerKing 12:31, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The A-Squad Names 

message: I think it is sad that all of the trivia was deleted. I've always found one of the most enjoyable features Wikipedia offers is that the articles can be cross-referenced to other related information. --Teram10 02:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:TRIV—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 04:33, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia section deleted 

message: Can someone edit this part of the intro?
The franchise was purchased by the Walt Disney Company as a part of the buyout of what Fox Family Worldwide became ABC Family Worldwide, including what Saban Entertainment became BVS Entertainment, from News Corporation, Fox's parent company, and Haim Saban between 2001 and 2002, and the show continued to air on Fox until its Fox Kids package was dismantled in the United States.
That sentence is very hard to comprehend & its a very lengthy sentence that doesnt really make sense.  I read it like 3 times, & still vaguely understand what its trying to say.208.137.139.5 21:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro Section 

message: Anyone have any information about the old allegations of racism/stereotyping (i.e., the asian girl was the yellow ranger, the black guy was the black ranger, Kim wore pink and the smart guy was depicted as a stereotypical nerd) that circulated with the release of the original series? Should it be included in this article?
the oreo 19:25, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, no, no.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:26, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Even so... I was surprised that no "Controversy" section exists in the main article. I seem to recall that Power Rangers was quite the target for activists believing that PR caused violence in children. JamesDMurray 00:43, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the criticism section covers this.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 00:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no criticism section.--Tempest115 12:47, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, GET TO WORK!—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Allegations of racism/stereotyping

message: We now have two more tentative titles and Casting information. The two tentative titles are Jungle Fury and Jungle Force. Both of those redirect to the Jetix site. Also, www.screenfaces.com now has casting information for the new rangers. RJ is the mentor, Casey is the red ranger, Theo is the blue ranger, and Lily is the yellow ranger. I think now is a good time to create a page for the new season. 75.75.76.110 23:29, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not until we have anything more definitive. OO had three names at this point last year (Drive Force, Relic Hunters, Operation Overdrive). Until there's a press release from Disney, we should wait.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:50, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Character names are likely to change at this point, too.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:52, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if we did create this page, what would it be called?--Tempest115 23:53, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

text: what's the rush. the thing won't start for another 8-9 months.Metropod 03:09, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Power Rangers 2008 

message: I don't know about the rest of you, but I am getting very tired about the constant vandalism to this page. It seems that everyone has something negative to say. I can't even think of a page that is vandalized as much as this is. We need to do something to prevent continued vandalism. It seems like it happens atleast once a week now.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Rick lay95 (talk • contribs) 
:Haim Saban, Shuki Levy, and Saban Entertainment get hit by the same guy. There are much more vandalized pages than this one.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 19:41, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Continued Vandalism

message: This article does not contain any specific references to reliable sources. In one of his reversion edit summary, User:Ryulong said that "everything else can be cited to the episodes or at best official toy sites" -- however, neither that nor two other articles I've put these flags on provide citations (e.g. links or even mention of) these specific episodes or websites.
In addition, it appears to contain original research, particularly in the "What is a PR" section and "plot sequence" -- from what published source are these definitions/descriptions derived? In what specific episode or movie is this information emphatically stated? If you can't point to one, then it is original research.
Ryulong mentioned on his talk page that a Wikiproject "will work on" adding references -- emphasis added by me. I don't see a plausible basis to remove those tags that indicate references aren't yet here. These tags are there to help articles and inform editors that assistance may be useful. Why hurt the articles by removing them? --EEMeltonIV 19:05, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: This section seems more like a long-winded dict-def to me... and less like an encyclopaedic section. Matthew 20:02, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How do you describe a topic without explaining aspects of it?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:03, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is a Power Ranger? 

message: Ray and others are at the licensing show and they said next year's title is Power Rangers Jungle Fury. Here is the thread: http://www.rangerboard.com/showthread.php?p=2374104
I know we're not allowed to add that stuff yet, but he'll be posting a logo soon, so it'll be official soon.75.75.76.110 19:20, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, depending on what we can use as a source, we can set up a short page, but the logo will still be an issue.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Why are you copying my signature, PA?—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:37, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Nobody said anything about it being non-relevant.  The problem is it's non-citable without some sort of press release sheet we can link to on a major site, like Disney's.  If some random joe walked by the article and claimed the JF images were fake, even though we know perfectly well they're real, we still wouldn't be able to prove their validity without such a cite/reference. Arrow 14:48, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Licensing Show reveals Title 

message: I do know that there is one episode of The Simpsons, entitled Homer Badman, references the first series in the Power Rangers franchise, Mighty Morphin Power Rangers, but I'm curious whether the "References to popular culture" section in this page or not. Bryan Seecrets 13:08, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Things gett to trivial to include items like that.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:24, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about this? "The popularity of the Power Rangers has capitulated into being referenced or parodied in popular culture." --Bryan Seecrets 07:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Give a textual source to support it.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:20, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Power Rangers being referenced in ''[[The Simpsons]]'' and other media 

message: Given the relvelation about the Morphing Grid in Once A Ranger, I think its importance has been greatly elevated.  We now know that every single ranger team was linked to it.  It should be mentioned somewhere within the Power Rangers group of articles, but I'm not sure where it should go.  We don't really have enough information about it to create a whole new article, but where would it fit within another one? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmssw (talk • contribs) 
:This really sounds like a lot of original research.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:12, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Every Ranger team" is a bit of a stretch.  IIRC, there was no mention of the Morphing Grid ever again after MMPR S3, except for two refs in Dino Thunder, one in S.P.D., and this one in OO. Arrowned 23:50, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Believe me - its hard to argue with Arrowned, as he is one of the experts on Power Rangers. As for the Morphing Grid, is it a physical place, an alternate dimension, or a virtual space (as Alpha was transported there)? Once A Ranger does not elaborate on this. Ilikenwf 04:34, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: However, its not a bit of a strech to say that. Just because there's no mention of it for a while, its kind of hard to imagine that only certain teams are connected to it. Morphing Grid seems to be the thing that all rangers receive powers from.RangerKing 01:15, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Morphing Grid

message: I believe the created by titles should be changed to reflect that Tony Oliver helped Haim Saban and Shuki Levy develop the series.RangerKing 03:01, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We need to use reliable sources. If they say Tony Oliver had a hand in creating it, then it goes into the article. After watching the opening credits, he's listed as a supervising producer (which is also mentioned in his bio)—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 03:12, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If I'm not mistaken, at Power Morphicon he said it himself that he essentially helped to create it, he even wrote the pilot episode. Regardless, the credits never really stated who the creator was to begin with.RangerKing 16:28, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: His word still needs to be proven to be said.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 20:44, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  www.rangercast.podomatic.com and verify it yourself. I'm fairly sure its in one of those Power Morphicon coverage things because I have listened to it.RangerKing 22:57, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Created By 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:General PR Logo.jpg

message: In keeping with the Super Sentai article, I'd like to add a "Metal" category to Colors table. It seems to me that if 5 metal-based heroes in 30 years of Super Sentai is notable enough to be permitted its own category, then the Power Rangers series, which in itself has existed for half of that amount of time and has 4 metal-based Rangers, should be just as notable. If not more, for doing more in half the time. For the record the Rangers are as follows: Gold Ranger (Zeo), Silver Ranger (in Space), Titanium Ranger (Lightspeed Rescue), and most recently the Mercury Ranger (Operation Overdrive). --Venomaru 2.0 12:06, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Seconded. I think this table needs overhauling completely...it gives no indication of which colours were there from the start of the series or were additional rangers, plus the one tick in 'other' implies that there is only one additional ranger, giving an inaccurate idea of how many characters were in the series. maybe we have instead of ticks N for normal, A for additional and then list the colours of all the other rangers? any ideas? 81.137.203.168 14:25, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colors table 

message: No mention of the widely distributed videogames for every single home system of its moment and the endless merchandise it generated? Hoped to see some of that since the show mainly was a launchpad for the merchandise it wanted to sell. GingerStokes (talk) 19:07, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the video games tend to be related solely to the series that they were released in conjunction with. I know that there's a Mighty Morphin Power Rangers game, and that should be mentioned in the article on that particular series. There are games for most of the other series and they should be mentioned in the other articles. The only video game that I think would be mentioned on this particular page is Power Rangers: Super Legends which covers everything.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 22:34, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video games and Merchandise? 

message: Shouldn't there be a "metallic" column on the color chart like the sentai page has that would include silver & gold colored suits71.166.0.51 (talk) 19:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Naming is more consistent in Sentai than in Power Rangers. They've had MegaSilver, GaoSilver, and BoukenSilver while we've had Silver Space Ranger, Lunar Wolf Ranger, and Mercury Overdrive Ranger. It just does not carry over very well.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:40, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe you guys removed the "Silver" and "Gold" columns because they are unofficial designations that are both that of "Other Ranger" right?. Mythdon (talk) 22:44, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ranger color Box 

message: I believe that Power Rangers Generations should be mentioned in this article. Mythdon (talk) 08:53, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Power Rangers Generations mention