Talk:Tyranid

message: This discussion page has been archived (1) as most of it is exceedingly old. Let's keep things neat and tidy, eh? Sojourner001 18:14, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: === conventional equipment ===
The line The first Tyranids used conventional, non-biological equipment such as lasguns and flak armour is virtually a quote from Games Workshop: http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/tyranids/articles/genesis.htm
 
I remember Rogue Trader did not include specialist weapons for (at that time) minor races. Hence Tyranids and Zoats had to be equipped with conventional equipment. --Air 12:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  first edition, Rogue Trader 

message: The line The first Tyranids used conventional, non-biological equipment such as lasguns and flak armour is virtually a quote from Games Workshop: http://us.games-workshop.com/games/40k/tyranids/articles/genesis.htm
 
I remember Rogue Trader did not include specialist weapons for (at that time) minor races. Hence Tyranids and Zoats had to be equipped with conventional equipment. --Air 12:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  conventional equipment 

message: I notice that Ultra Marines did not actually feature any alien races, but was a simplified scout vs. scout game. Source: http://www.boardgamegeek.com/game/8728 --Air 13:10, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  board game incarnations 

message: What happened to the article? I come back and its a jumbled mess! Why do we have the "Tyranid Info" section? It's pointless, that small bit of information can be placed throughout the article. What the crap are all the bio-enhancements doing here?
I'm afraid to see the other articles. Colonel Marksman 00:07, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed, this article has filled up with garbage and cruft since I last saw it. I'd like some consent to revert to a very old edit of mine, which in my opinion was closer to what we're after than anything that's come after - which is largely nonsense and irrelevant trivia. Sojourner001 16:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is far cleaner than what it was, and now has points, issues, and the likes attributed. If you revert it, instead of improving different parts, then you not here to help, but only want to damage the article as a whole. Please keep that in mind. And before you start accusing things of fan craft, please follow the Ettiquette rules. Its not your place to judge the article as good or bad, or pass any such value judgments on things like that. There is very little "irrelevant trivia" included, and your lack of appropriately quoting such as example is proof of that. SanchiTachi 16:24, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: !!!

message: I propose that a section be made specifically to introduce deviations in assembly of tyranid models, such as the carnifex. An example would be a picture of the assembled model and possible list of all biomorphs it represents. Please post suggestions here.
Multitallented 03:45, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not add any info on this that you can cite to the biomorphs section? One picture may work (or a few tiny pictures) for the whole thing, as they only need an idea of what is being talked about instead of examples for each. It is important to include such information to distinguish the Tyranids as an army in a game, as opposed to an in-universe alien page. SanchiTachi 16:33, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tyranid Building Modifications 

message: I went through, put more specific sourcing, and I revamped the different pages.
I organized, destroyed redunancies, and made so many changes that my head is spinning. I spent a long time trying to organize and kill anything that was too wordy, already there, etc. 
I hope the page works and is a lot cleaner than before. Any reviews and spelling/grammar would be helpful. SanchiTachi 00:04, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Changes 

message: I added the fact they're harvested from Eldar DNA, as that was included in the Tyranid Codex. 
Kaenei 19:49, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Note, it was in the 3rd edition but not the 4th and was deemed "classified." That means that its an idea. Maybe we should create a biomorophs/weapons page and include possible origins of such creatures there and then note that those have been deemed Classified in order to make the knowledge in dispute. How does that sound? SanchiTachi 19:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)

text: The official origin of the DNA used in the creation of a Zoanthrope is unknown; I think that Eldar DNA is the most likely, since the Eldar's psykers are probably the best-known in the Warhammer 40K universe, and the Zoanthrope is limited almost entirely to its psychic abilities. Groundlord (talk) 17:46, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Zoanthrope origin

message: I expanded the different pages to make a Warrior Genus page and worked the Genestealers to follow the same organization structure. I will work out a Gaunt Page and a page for the Titans. However, I think all four would be greatly served by an info box or a genetic chart. If someone wants to put together a hand drawn version of the 4th edition chart and then "emphasize" in the picture the specific group, then that would be great. SanchiTachi 02:35, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: A Proposal

message: The section on squigs has numerous basic grammar and spelling errors. I fixed several obvious things, but someone with more knowledge of the subject material should clean up the rest, especially the line "Although there ones diviced from squats and Eldar as well." I have no idea what the word "diviced" is supposed to be, or for that matter what a "squat" is. --erunaheru 03:42, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Squigs 

message: Does anyone know of the Black Library books that involve Tyranids? If so, could you put information here on them (a one paragraph synopsis of the book, reference details, etc), so we can put together a Black Library section? Or at least list the books at the bottom of the page. I know there are a few for Macragge. SanchiTachi 02:05, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: A Question/Favor to Ask

message: The malanthobe isnt a bio-titan which means it should be in the tyranid section rather than the tyranid titan section. General Aion 05:46, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean the Malanthrope? Technically, its taller than a Carnifex, and its a special (and expensive) model from Forge World, and it had rules along side of the titans in the current rules for Epic (or at least the current tyranid rules that on the specialist games website for them). It just seemed more convienent to put them there instead of worrying about it too catagories too much (plus, I looked at the chart on the current Tyranids codex and any that were "speculated" for origins I just lumped them in with titans, as they all seemed to be "bigger" versions of what they were speculated to be from, I hope this helps). SanchiTachi 05:54, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Malanthobe

message: Do you think we should have a section or page for tyranid vessels from BFG? Or maybe we should put them as a species- there living anyway. General Aion 07:52, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tyranid vessels

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message: I just removed it from the "Other Hive Fleets" section. No such fleet exists as far as I'm aware, let alone one encountered by the Necrons on Kronus. Especially when you consider that there are no Tyranids in Dawn of War whatsoever.
Google however returns results for "Hive Fleet Carcharodon". Suspect this may have been a fan's edit to include their own hive fleet.
Can whoever's doing that not do it please. The whole point of this article is to show Tyranids as they appear in official publications, not to boost your own ego. If this however is an actual Hive Fleet, please cite and link source material to confirm it.
-The Great Unwashed 07:13, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hive Fleet Carcaradon 

message: Apologies if this is common knowledge, but it seems like some of the WH40K fiction is inconsistent in spelling Tyranid types, varying for example in Termagant/Hormagaunt while on the Tyranid page it is Termagaunt (and redirects to Termagant!)  Is there actually a correct spelling convention? -MalkavianX 04:13, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: -gaunt or -gant?

message: The Tyrant Guard article seems to be a fork from this one that contains very little in the way of real world perspective or info. Pairadox 02:05, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge from [[Tyrant Guard]] 

message: Does anyone here think something should be included in the Other Hive Fleets part about the Ymgarl genestealers? Since this would indicate other previous Tyranid encounters in the Milky Way.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.250.237.134 (talk) 11:07, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ymgarl Stealers

message: Im confuzzled plz help.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.118.31.146 (talk) 17:20, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-synaptic. What is it? 

message: In the section talking about "other hive fleets" there is a paragraph about so-called Hive Fleet Wraith. No sources are cited for this, I personally have heard nothing of it, and to me, it sounds like someone just put in their own hive fleet background just so it could be in the Tyranid page. Im deleting it. If you want it on the page, give me sources.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.100.136.156 (talk) 00:47, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There are references elsewhere online to it being menioned in White Dwarf #98, however not owning an issue or having the ISBN I can't provide a conclusive citation. StormySan (talk) 00:20, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

text: I've managed to talk to someone who has a copy of this issue and can find no reference to any hive fleets at all. If noone objects then I'll remove the reference as it would appear to be a player-created fleet. StormySan (talk) 00:40, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Left this over a week and no objections, section removed.StormySan (talk) 12:22, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wraith Fleet? 

message: Chovin deleted the following text "(though the Zerg is presumably based upon the Tyranids, as Tyranids can be traced back as early as 1987, while the game Starcraft, which also includes elements of design comparable in the Terran races of both game universes, was not released until 1998; likewise although the movie Alien from 1979 certainly pre-dated the Tyranids, and provided inspiration for the Tyranids, the Tyranid concept is, arguably, a degree more developed as a race rather than just a scourge)" with the note "Only speculation".  It annoys me slightly that he made no effort to discuss this edit on the discussion page.  But, it's not like it isn't true, which is exactly why I sought to mitigate the speculation with words like "presumably" and "arguably", and also the use of parentheses, so people would not mistake the words as gospel.
I'd like to point out that my edit was from "though the Zerg was likely based upon the Tyranids" which was even more presumptive while putting on airs of uninformed certainty.  Likewise I made sure to add the dates of release so the speculation was at least supportable in fact.  For copyright law purposes those would be the essential details (if a copyright judge would have to rule one way or another which I don't think they would).
This is relevant to Tyranid public interest because it is a question on many people's minds.  (Indeed it was on mine, which was what led me to look up the release dates in the first place.)  There are many who heard of the Zerg long before they heard of Tyranids (if even they have yet heard of Tyranids).  Many of these people just assume the Tyranids are a rip off of the Zerg, which even if the Zerg are not a rip off of the Tyranids the reverse certainly can not be true. 76.111.80.228 (talk) 04:07, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chovin's Edit 

message: # Our goal is not to reproduce the entire library of Tyranid sourcebooks in this page. I'd argue we don't need to list every unit type and hive fleet ever mentioned anywhere.
# There is a strong 'fanboy' tone in 80% of the article, where evident Tyranid players want to emphasise how terrifying and invulnerable their fictional soldiers are.
Look at the Space Marines (Warhammer 40,000) page. It is mostly restrained in tone, and doesn't list every Marine type in the books - that's a much better read. --Air (talk) 15:10, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs radical edits 

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thread_title:  [[WP:GOCE]] 

message: Someone managed to link a picture of the late Pope instead of the Tyranids 4th Edition Codex. Unfortunately, I don't know how to change it. If someone can link back the good picture...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.225.216.246 (talk) 23:31, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong Picture 

message: It seems that the ISBN for several of the referances are wrong, and even contradictory. IE both the 2nd and 3rd edition codexes have the ISBN of the 4th edition codex. Wyvirn91 (talk) 23:42, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference books 

message: The Harridan disambiguation page had an entry coming to this article, but I can't find that word/name mentioned in here. Is something missing? I've removed the entry for now, but that makes it a  page, subject to deletion.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  05:36, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Harridan"? 

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