Talk:Allomone

message: This area is for credible references to use to expand the Article.  Make sure any reference you post here is from a legitimate source.--M rickabaugh (talk) 19:43, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not know how to use this box above, if someone could help me out that would be great.  Also, for posting links to resources, is just the URL ok, or do I need to do a whole citation template?--M rickabaugh (talk) 00:19, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The use of the above template is simple...once you know what it's all about.  Just put the generated reference between the two things that have  around it.  I've done it on this page, also see the one here.  As for generating the citations to be used throughout the artile, you need to fill out one of the templates, just URLs won't get you much support from the community unfortunately.--NYMFan69-86 (talk) 16:53, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference List

message: :This could be a problem:
* From the wiki-article on kairomone: improves the fitness of the recipient and in this respect differs from an allomone (which is the opposite: it benefits the producer and harms the receiver) and a synomone (which benefits both parties).
* From the definition of Allomone in this article proposed by Brown and Eisner (Brown,1968): to denote those substances which convey an advantage upon the emitter. Because Brown and Eisner did not specify whether or not the receiver would benefit, the original definition of allomone includes both substances that benefit the receiver and the emitter, and substances that only benefit the emitter. An example of the first relationship would be a mutualistic relationship, and the latter would be a repellent secretion.
* Then I read an article that states the allomone-kairomone dichotomy should be dropped – apparently a perspective supported by leading Chemical Ecologist.
* Compound that with an article already written on pheromones which will no doubt overlap this one – since apparently most examples of Chemical Releasing Stimuli (CRS) ( term that describes allomone, kairimone, and synome) involves pheromones.
:When the experts do not agree, to the point that they are debating the definition of the word itself – then problems will no doubt crop up that are beyond our control.--JimmyButler (talk) 14:26, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is worrying.  You could do all the research in the world about evolutionary origin and examples of use in past and contemporary organisms, but if the experts (and therefore, you) can't clearly define what it is...than you're in trouble. NYMFan69-86 (talk) 15:50, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I came to a similar conclusion last week when I did a quick survey of the literature. There is a further problem with allomone in that it is an ecological concept defined by insect biology. There seems to be similar concepts in plant biology but the definitions in the two fields don't seem to line up exactly. There are analogous plant chemicals that are not pheromones and yet functionally they are similar in concept to an allomone. In short, a nebulous topic that might be best skipped and a new topic substituted. Cheers, Wassupwestcoast (talk) 01:47, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential Mine-field