Talk:Conceptual system

message: A conceptual systems is simply a model. There is no limitations on this kind of model whatsoever except those of human imagination. If there is an experimentally verified correspondence between a conceptual system and a physical system then that conceptual system models the physical system. "values, ideas, and beliefs that make up every persons view of the world": that is a model of the world; a conceptual system that is a model of a physical system (the world). The person who has that model is a physical system. In psychology and social work, when they talk about a conceptual system, they are referring to some person's model of the world, but if they try to understand that model, they end up making a model of that model, which is just a model of the person's behavior. In any case, this is exactly the purpose of the general term "conceptual systems".
The basis of all this is simple: the notion that something exists demands that the thing that exists be addressable. That is to say that there must be some observable or conceivable manifestation of the thing that is said to exist. If the manifestation is observable then the thing is a physical system (or object, it doesn't matter which for physical systems until you get down to indivisible particles). If the thing is not observable but is conceivable its a conceptual system. 
More precisely: consider the set of all systems. Implicitly, the set of all objects is a subset of the set of all systems because a systems in an interacting structure of sub-systems and/or objects. The set of all conceptual and the set of all physical systems are both subsets of this set. For higher precision, one may first consider the set of all valid properties, then allow every system to be defined as a binary string which encodes the truth value of every property applied to that object or system. In that way uniqueness is guaranteed and the system is paradox free (due to filtering the set of properties first). In general the set of all conceptual systems is infinite. But it may be built up as a finite structure like a dictionary, only including the conceptual systems that are known, and adding new ones as they arise. Given the boardness of 'conceptual systems', the set of all conceptual systems would be uncountably infinite due to the fact that every real number is a conceptual object.
See the following for more info: 
Also, here are a few scholarly papers on the subject:
Ratjed 03:00, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: These ideas are quit clear, and give a good description of what a conceptual system is. I therefor implemented those ideas in the article itselve. I hope this suits you? - Mdd 18:55, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good to me. Time will tell I guess. I am in the process of arguing it with a metaphysics student right now, even though the terminology comes more from psychology and computer science. Also I might be able to find some good quotes. Ratjed 08:52, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the article still needs a lot of work. It's still very abstract. It lacks qoutes and references etc. - Mdd 12:13, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
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