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Talk:Amand-Marie-Jacques de Chastenet, Marquis of Puységur

message: This article was transwikied to be used in Wikibooks:Hypnosis book.  --79.168.11.181 (talk) 00:28, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transwikied note 

message: Extra info can be gleaned from a book by Puysegar translated from French & published in 1837 held at the Internet Archive https://archive.org/stream/essayofinstructi00puys#page/n5/mode/2up
Veryscarymary (talk) 18:54, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  extra information
Talk:Adele of Vermandois

message: The article states that Adele's mother was Herbert II's first wife, Adela, but Herbert's article states that Adele's mother was Herbert's second wife, Hildebrant. Does anyone know which is correct?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cwelgo (talk • contribs) 15:41, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adele's mother 

message: I have a source that indicates there was a daughter 'Hildegarde' that I don't see mentioned in article.
Stuart, Roderick W, Royalty for Commoners (Third Edition 1998 (1st 1988); Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc.), 
Line 141-36. Arnold I 'the Old,'; md (2) 934, Adelaide (Adele) de Vermandois (169-35)
Line 169-35.  Adelaide (Adela) de Vermandois, b. c915; d. 958/960, Bruges; md 934, Arnold I 'the Old' (141-36), Count of Flanders and Artois.
Line 235-36. Arnulf (Arnold) 'the Old,'; md (2) 934, Adela de Vermandois, b. c915; d. 960; dau of Herbert II (188-38, 231-36, 239-35), Count of Vermandois, and Hildebrande, dau or sister of Hugh, the Great, of France.  Arnulf and Adela were parents of Elstrude of Flanders (235-35).
Line 311-36.  Dietrich II, md 940/945, Hildegarde of Flanders, dau of Arnold (Arnulf) I (141-36), and Adelaide de Vermandois (169-35).
Was this information overlooked or has it been disproved?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andaleen (talk • contribs) 02:29, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Children of Adele and Arnulf I
Talk:Adele of Meaux

message: Something is wrong here: This is not the daughter of Robert of Vermandois and this is not the first wife of Geoffrey I of Anjou, but his second.
I suppose this is a mix-up of both wifes. Someone pls separate them! / Ola  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.247.27.221 (talk) 13:27, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you may be partially correct, but this article is about the daughter of Robert of Vermandois. There is fair degree of confusion between Adel and her mother, who does not have a page, but the key to the problem may be in Adele's date of death. Bearpatch (talk) 18:46, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I fell into this same trap myself before realizing one woman could not be married to two men simultaneously and have two sets of children born during the same time period. Clearly even among better sources she’s been confused with her mother.  First, Adele was born c. 950 and that agrees with the chronology of her parents’ marriage and is consistent with the birth of her brother Heribert. So it would be impossible for her to be married and have a daughter born in 956—at best she’d be six years old!  Also, she cannot have married Lambert, Count of Chalon in c.970 and be having a son with Geoffrey I of Anjou the same year, not to mention later still supposedly having children with two husbands.  Adele died in 974 so how was it she had another son Maurice after that? Some sources show her mother, Adelaide, marrying Geoffrey after her daughter’s death and being the mother of Maurice only. But again, it just shows more confusion between Adelaide and Adele. 
The most reasonable solution and the only one that makes sense chronologically is that Geoffrey married Adelaide, the widowed countess of Meux and her daughter Adele married Lambert, Count of Chalon. Adelaide and Geoffrey I of Anjou had their first child c. 956, their second in 970. Adele and Lambert had their first child c. 970 and two additional children before her death in 974. Any thoughts on a better scenario? Bearpatch (talk) 22:14, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Adele vs. Adelaide

message: Here is a possible solution to this problem.
Arnulf I of Flanders married c. 935, Adele (c. 915 - 960), daughter of Herbert II of Vermandois.
Geoffrey I of Anjou married c. 955, Adele (c. 935 - c. 990), daughter of Robert of Vermandois. 
Lambert of Chalon married c. 970, Adele (c. 930 - c. 990), daughter of Lietaud II of Macon. (She was married previously c. 950, Gerhart of Metz).  
Charles I of Lower Lorraine married c. 975, Adele (c. 935 - 990), daughter of Robert I of Vermandois. (She was married previously c. 955, Geoffrey I of Anjou).
ChuckRFord (talk) 02:23, 4 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genealogical Correction
Talk:Louis de Béchameil, Marquis of Nointel

message: *"...became Louis XIV's headwaiter" This is the level of much cooking pseudohistory. Ridiculous.--Wetman (talk) 07:57, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

message: Although my French is not perfect, reading the French original I see:
#This article is just a bad translation of the French article, uncredited.
#The French article makes it clear that de la Varenne made the sauce, whereas this makes out (by an inserted 'he') that Béchamel made it.
How bad is that? Macdonald-ross (talk) 19:27, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  How bad is this?
Talk:Gunnor

message: Gunnora's family are first described in the article as having settled in the Pays de Caux, which is in eastern Normandy. Then it is said that they "held sway in western Normandy".  Which is it? Zoetropo (talk) 00:04, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: (A late response) The two are not mutually exclusive if they represent different timepoints. Agricolae (talk) 22:41, 6 August 2021 (UTC)

text: Your family was named after the village.  There is no genealogical continuity between Gunnora and her brother Herfast of Crepon, who held the village, and later people named Crepon who were from the village. Agricolae (talk) 03:12, 21 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location of Gunnora's family 

message: Hey, it's Chris Crepon here again. I'm just thinking I should add or rather change Gunnora's name from simply 'Gunnora' to Gunnora de Crepon in the body of the article, or write it maybe as an alternative. de Crepon or Crepon was once of the first surnames ever in European history, because Normans began this tradition of inheritable surname... And I know that Gunnor's name was Crepon, Gunnora de Crepon 73.114.18.222 (talk) 15:22, 21 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Except it wasn't.  Surnames were not this early, and though her brother was 'of Crepon', there is reason to believe this was not his place of origin, but property he received from the Duke after becoming his brother-in-law (or at least brother of his mistress), so Gunnora was never 'of Crepon' at all. Agricolae (talk) 03:09, 21 April 2017 (UTC)

text: Not sure when this unsigned comment was added, but this description of where her parents and grandparents were born is entirely made up.  The identity of her parents and more remote ancestors is entirely unknown, and hence we do not know where they, individually, were born. Agricolae (talk) 22:38, 6 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding the surname de Crepon at least to the article body? 

message: According to university sources, Richard and Gunnor are referred to as Duke and Duchess.
Per:
*"...on the marriage of Duke Richard I (943-96) and his former concubine Gunnor(d.1031)."
*"...Beatrice was a niece of duchess Gunnor, wife of duke Richard I..."
*"The new Norman counts who emerged from the 1020s onward were kinsmen and vassals of the duke; many were connected with the families of Duke Richard I's widow, Duchess Gunnor.."  --Kansas Bear (talk) 21:48, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duke/Duchess
Talk:Antoine de Gramont, 2nd Duke of Gramont

message: Pour une raison quelconque, il n'y a pas d'article à propos de Antoine I de Gramont, l'un des leaders des Huguenots, compagnons de Henri IV.  BorisVM (talk) 12:06, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antoine I de Gramont 
Talk:Jean d'Estrées, Count of Estrées

message: The problem I've hit with this page is that because the page title has an accent in the name, it is unfindable by searching. As it is the proper spelling, it should stay, I think, but shouldn't there be a re-direct page with the alternative? I'd do it, but I've no idea how to put an accent into the text.Xyl 54 11:05, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Problem

message: Do you have a source for the story of the Dutch ruse to lure the French onto the reef? The French account makes no mention of it, blaming the incident on a navigation error by d’Estrees.
Also, do you think the incident really is unique? There was a similar loss when HMS Association and her consorts were wrecked on the Scilly Isles in 1707.194.176.105.39 14:30, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: There is no sense at all in this sentence: who won the battles?, which battles?. Worst of all: these battles were won by the Dutch and the only win in these naval battles of the Third Anglo-Dutch War by d'Estress was an everlasting fame for ineptitude.
His disastrous attack on Tobago, Action of March 1677, is seen in the article as: "In 1676 and 1677,he succeeded in conquering Gorée, Cayenne and Tobago, destroying the Dutch fleet based there." (!!!). In Tobago he succeeded in losing half of his fleet -four French warships including his own flagship-, over one thousand men and many of his captains and officers as the real talented seaman M. Louis Gabaret. User:Zampa's 16:35, 01 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Some of these battles were won."
Talk:Louis de Duras, 2nd Earl of Feversham

message: Please, somebody can tell me where was Louis de Duras' residence in London? Was it a Palace? Which Palace?
I need this answer so bad, if anyone could ever say :*(  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.204.141.243 (talk) 23:33, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As a member of the household of HM King Charles II, he would have been entitled to residence at the Palace of Whitehall. I do not know that he was required to, or chose to, but insofar as he would have had residence in a palace, Whitehall is almost certainly your best bet. 74.83.14.59 (talk) 09:07, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where Louis de Duras lived? 

message: Edward Hasted refers to him as "Mary, married to Lewis, lord Daras, afterwards earl of Faversham"
From: 'Parishes: Selling', The History and Topographical Survey of the County of Kent: Volume 7 (1798), pp. 38-50. URL: http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=63389
DavidAnstiss (talk) 23:31, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note
Talk:Today Today

message: 2 Minutes ago Chris and Craig confirmed that they often have the cricket on while they watch the show.
How do you cite a radio show? It's not likely to be useful unless your radio can be tuned backwards in time.
:I think (just my opinion, and I would like feedback) that you should not use the radio as a source for information on the radio show's  own article. Unfortunately I didn't find any guidance in the Wikipedia pages Reliable sources &Verifiability. Although there is now a link to the podcast at a source, it would make more sense to use a reliable secondary source (like a newspaper article) for information in the article. I don't think any reliable secondary sources have reported that Chris and Craig watch the cricket during their show - so the fact should not go into the article. If we were able to use the podcast, then every little detail about the show could be added to the article  - using proper sources avoids this.
:Actually, have any reliable secondary sources reported the existence of the "Bloody Sunday" program at all? If not, then the section should be removed.
:As a side note, the "Coma FM" sketch was mentioned in a newspaper article or two, but there doesn't seem to be the need for a separate article (Coma FM) so if I get some time I will redirect Coma FM to this article instead.
:If anyone can think of sources to help reference this article, apart for newspapers, please mention them below.--Commander Keane 04:39, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I recognise the fact that secondary sources should be used.  But removing the 'Bloody Sunday' section from the article is going a bit too far.  It is like denying that the segment exists.  Surely a newspaper radio guide exists somewhere that has the words "2pm Bloody Sunday with Chris Taylor and Craig Reucassel" in a really small font - although my local newspaper is notorious for not updating theirs, it probably still says Roy and HG. -- Chuq 09:23, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: One should not use radio for a source of information on an article about a radio show? That is absolutely absurd and does not make much sense. The first source for a radio show's article should be the radio.Planetsconspire 23:54, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Auckland 1

message: I hope you had a good time, I apologise for not making it today. Yesterday I went with a group of school (primary) kids up Mt Ruapehu, and did not feel like rushing up there today :). Thanks simon for the report. Brian | (Talk) 05:53, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: NP you can catch the next one. I've just added a little bit for others to add more personal bits at the bottom of the report ( We do this on another wiki I frequent) and wote a quick paragraph. - SimonLyall 08:02, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

message: Did anyone pick up the pen I was using at the pub? I think I just left it on the table when I left. It's an Eppendorf pen made to look a little bit like an autopipette.-gadfium 08:32, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lost pen

message: Is another one planned? Mathmo
:No one's planning one to my knowledge, but it would seem like a good idea. If you want to organise one, the place to advertise it is at Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board. You might get reduced numbers in December because many people will already be heavily committed to other social events, and during January, since many people will be on holiday, but if you just want to meet other Wikipedians, then nominate any weekend afternoon at some reasonably central pub or cafe, preferably with convenient parking. Give a week or two notice.-gadfium 17:22, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: next meeting
Talk:1999–2000 South Pacific cyclone season

message: There should not be whitespace at the top of the article. It looks like it's caused by the infobox. Any ideas? – Chacor 04:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, that's weird. The other two don't have that. Hurricanehink (talk) 06:13, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

text: You have to fill in at least one of either of these fields: "Total hurricanes" or Total intense". Of course, "hurricanes" changes to "Tropical cyclones" automatically when you put SHem. I also changed the number of cyclones to six. I wish we could get that scale added to the template because the infobox will expand once someone puts a seasonal track map in it. Good kitty 00:25, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: White space

message: Is there a RSMC Nadi name list available that can be used for this article? It doesn't really look right without one. --Coredesat 13:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Storm names
Talk:François Alexandre Frédéric de La Rochefoucauld, 7th Duke of La Rochefoucauld

message: I am not familiar yet with the House of Beauharnais, but I am sure that nobody in this family would have been heirs to the Spanish colony of  San Domingo, better known as Santo Domingo colonial. I suspect that the name of the colony is confused here with the French colony on the western side of the island, Saint-Domingue. It is often the case that the name of "San Domingo" is used for both colonies even when they are different (and resulted in two different countries). Perhaps somebody else could trace the connections and make the changes. They are minor, but would require making sure that Mme de La Rochefoucauld, who became dame d'honneur to the empress Josephine, was indeed the heirs of Saint-Domingue. Thanks. Historian (talk) 04:52, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: The San Domingo link
Talk:Jules de Polignac

message: Prince Jules de Polignac's correct birth/death information is the following:
Born: Paris (not Versailles), 14 May 1780.
Died: Saint-Germain-en-Laye, 30 March 1847.
My source is a published family genealogy/history:
Duc Jean-Héracle de Polignac, _La Maison de Polignac: Etude d'une évolution sociale de la noblesse_, Le Puy: Editiions Jeanne d'Arc, 1975, p. 129
Dr. Sylvia Kahan
City University of New York
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.131.67.235 (talk • contribs) 
::These dates and places are also supported by European genealogical sources: Genealogics cites:
::*Genealogisches Handbuch des Adels, Fürstliche Häuser, p. 1956.
::*Europäische Stammtafeln, J.A. Stargardt Verlag, Marburg, Schwennicke, Detlev (Ed.), vol. IX, p. 92.
::Laura1822 16:54, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reverted to 2 March 1847 based on strength in numbers and added a ref link to a new notes section. —Moondyne 17:52, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

text: This is his elder brother, Armand Jules Marie Heraclius duc de Polignac, who died on 30 March 1847 in Saint-Germain-en-Laye. See the sources given in references, as well as the Nouvelle biographie générale depuis les temps les plus reculés jusqu'à nos jours (1862). I edited the note accordingly. — Xavier, 01:42, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prince Jules de Polignac 

message: This title is terrible.  No one ever calls him the "Duke of Polignac."  He's called the "prince de Polignac," typically, or just "Jules de Polignac."  The current title is awful, and the justification for the move "standardization" is just as bad. john k (talk) 15:31, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 
Talk:Alexandre de Prouville de Tracy

message: Is there such a thing as a Lieutenant General of a regiment?  I think not, but am always open to surprises.  Is "lieutenant colonel" meant? M. le Quatretildes Terry J. Carter
98.148.73.179 (talk) 18:34, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He was Lieutenant General (i.e. Lieutenant-Governor); he was not in direct command of the regiment. I have made changes accordingly. Creuzbourg (talk) 13:28, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rank? 

message: The article describes de Prouville as engaging in a 'brutal war' against the Iroquois, without any citation to verify.  The article on de Prouville on the Canadian Biography Online makes no mention of incidents that seem 'brutal' as judged by the standards of the time (burning crops & deserted villages was pretty tame for for the 1600s.  So where does this allegation of brutality come from? Corlyon (talk) 04:32, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the unsourced word 'brutal'. Creuzbourg (talk) 13:29, 2 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brutal War? 

message: The information in the paragraph about Tracy's campaign against the Iroquois contains numerous factual errors as it is based on an inaccurate, outdated (and biased) source. There were three expeditions organized against the Mohawk in 1666. The first, in February 1666, failed because the soldiers of the Régiment de Carignan-Salières were ill-equipped to campaign during the Canadian winter. The second, in August 1666, turned back when they met a Mohawk delegation returning French captives to New France. The third, in October 1666, did not directly engage the Mohawk but did destroy their villages and crops. Tracy did not force the Mohawk to covert to Catholicism or adopt the French language. Extensive revision is needed using reliable sources such as Eccles's Canada under Louis XIV and Verney's The Good Regiment. Griffin's Sword (talk) 19:36, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Article has been extensively revised and expanded using reliable sources. Griffin's Sword (talk) 20:58, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed
Talk:Jean Georges Lefranc de Pompignan

message: Hi Eric: you've suppressed my correction : where I added dates and mentioned that Lefranc de Pompignan was bishop of Le Puy. You mentioned Voltaire and his Lettre d'un quaker. Read it :   He attacked Lefranc de Pompignan as bishop of Le Puy :" De quoi t’avises-tu, dans une instruction dite pastorale, adressée aux laboureurs, vignerons, et merciers du Puy en Velay, de dire (page 38) que le système de gravitation est menacé de décadence ? Qu’a de commun la théorie des forces centripètes et centrifuges avec la religion et avec les habitants du Puy en Velay" ?. So it is wrong to write that the archbishop of Vienne was attacked by Voltaire. I maintain my version : you can rewrite as you want .. Cheers--Lou raspoutchou (talk) 20:14, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Lou, I reverted your change again. Your change breaks the sentence, that is, the sentence as you changed it no longer works in English. I have no idea what you are talking about regarding my mention of Voltaire--I have not written anything in the Pompignan article. And the article does not state that anyone was attacked by Voltaire. I am not familiar with this topic, but I'm guessing that what you are saying is that the words "archbishop of Vienne" should be changed to "archbishop of Le Puy en Velay". There is no need to insert the dates of Pompignan's terms of office into that sentence. If you think that info should be in the article, put it in another sentence, and it would be helpful to cite sources. Eric talk 20:40, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voltaire and ''Les Lettres d'un Quaker''
Talk:Ecclesiastical Provinces and Dioceses of the Anglican Church of Canada

message: List of dioceses of the Anglican Church of Canada predates this article by a few months; the title is the proper form according to Wikipedia:Lists (stand-alone lists)#Naming conventions, use "List of X". The list is of dioceses and that should be the initial wording.—Chidom talk  04:50, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This seems to be rather a rather long-standing consensus; agreed and  Klbrain (talk) 19:28, 1 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with List of dioceses of the Anglican Church of Canada
Talk:Louise de la Vallière

message: *"She fled to an obscure convent at Chaillot, where Louis rapidly followed her." If this is the Couvent de la Visitation, founded bt Henriette d'Angleterre in 1651,  it was far from obscure. Was there another convent at Chaillot, then? -Wetman 07:57, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
Talk:Maurice Quentin de La Tour

message: Much of the text is taken verbatim from the latest edition of the Britannica. --Ghirla-трёп- 16:32, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Amalgamated Motor Cycles Ltd

message: Should merge Amalgamated Motor Cycles Ltd and Associated Motorcycles. According to Tragatsch, Encyclopedia of Moyorcycles, it is Associated Motorcycles.Seasalt 04:51, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have merged this to Associated Motor Cycles as proposed Tony (talk) 20:12, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Philippe de Rigaud, Marquis de Vaudreuil

message: A sentence in the first section says he was a successful administrator who had an enlightened policy toward the Native Americans. It seems unnecessary to point out that there were no Native Americans in Canada, but it also seems the words "successful" and "enlightened" are hard to define and unsupported by anything in the article. I propose the sentence beginning with "Vaudreuil was a successful..."  be removed.Wemonk (talk) 17:13, 1 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  adjectives
Talk:Jean de Noailles, 5th Duke of Noailles

message: i changed the name to Anne Paule Dominique, conflict in geneological sites, but the book by decendants spells it this way. pohick (talk) 17:18, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled