Talk:Eruca sativa

message: I came to this Wiki entry to read about cultivation of rocket. Much to my dismay this article refers to U.S. presidents, and their supposed constituents.  Enough already.  Who cares if Hilary Clinton's supporters drink wine or beer? Who cares if Obama mentioned rocket in a stump speech. Ridiculous. America's fixation on their presidents is sickening.  Everything imaginable is related to their stupid presidents. What a loser country.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.71.29.7 (talk) 15:37, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Then remove it and see what happens.  Wikipedia is not an outlet for your temper tantrums.Trilobright (talk) 16:32, 12 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excessive reference to U.S. presidents 

message: Looks like the article's author has fallen into the trap of writing the name of the subject once and then using the word "it" for every subsequent reference.  I'm not going to bother to correct it (pardon the pun).
71.241.75.45 (talk) 22:08, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excessive use of "it" 

message: I added this page to the Rocket (disambiguation) page (because I couldn't find this when looking for "rocket").
:... Well, it's a bit esoteric, but I guess if you really feel that way... Jfiling 23:23, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds like a grand idea.  Tomertalk 04:00, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation 

message: The main article could be improved if there were a word or two on growing conditions, how long it takes for a seed to germinate, and what kind of soil is best to plant it in.  The packet says the seeds take 45 days to grow to maturity.  But if I want to pick the seeds for a mild homemade mustard, not as biting as real mustard, how much longer will it take for it to bloom, and then for the blooms to go to seed?
I just bought a packet of Arugula seeds for $1.49 and was wondering if it would cross with the mustard I planted thirty years ago, and allowed to go to seed.  From what I understand, all species of Brassica tend to cross with one another, whether it is Brussel Sprouts, Turnips, Cabbage, Cauliflower or Mustard.  They crossbreed with one another, and lose their special characteristics, and become very average.  It has been 30 years since I planted mustard, and it went to seed, and crossed with some of the local Brassica weeds found in the foothills of Portland, Oregon.  (About a year ago, I chopped up some wild brassica, cooked it in the microwave, and added some cheese for flavoring.  It gave me a horrendous stomach ache like you wouldn't believe.  I writhed in agony for the rest of the day, but the next day I was okay.  The same thing happens when I eat raw mustard, and don't cook it well enough.)198.177.27.12 01:20, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting. Please register for an wikipedia username and post. I think the question needs to be asked if you were actually eating Arugula. I can imagine mistaking a similar looking weed for the real thing. Also, are you able to eat turnips ok? Nodekeeper 08:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to grow Arugula 

message: It wasn't McCain who questioned the price of arugula in Iowa, but Barack Obama. At minimum the reference should be corrected and dated, but for some reason I don't understand "edit the page" doesn't have the reference.
Which is I would think better than intruding an American political campaign gaffe into this article.
Could someone fix this?
Lonnie Nesseler 14:24, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I deleted that niche market/Obama bit (again). Not sure how relevant it is for the article, but it definitely doesn't belong in the intro. The Obama > McCain change was just someone clowning around. -Eric talk 15:57, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That gaffe was the first time I had ever heard of arugula, and the reason I looked it up (for what it's worth).  Fishal (talk) 17:08, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I too redeleted the niche market blather. This attempt to portray arugula as an aloof and elitist vegetable is outlandishly political and irrelevant. I think it's an effort by anti-arugula factions to decrease the popularity of this healthy and tasty plant. These same people did this to cannabis in the 1930s, and now this. In any case, unless you have real market statistics to back up what you put here, don't even try to pull these shenanigans. MisplacedFate1313 (talk) 16:39, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I just restored the "niche market" sentence, after reading in the Economist about his "arugula-flavoured" politics. Having no idea what arugula was, I came to Wikipedia. Knowing that arugula is another name for rocket (which I am partial to myself) didn't really help me understand its relevance to US politics! Akiyama (talk) 11:52, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I understand your puzzlement.  Obama is being painted as "elitist" because apparently he enjoys arugala.  I didn't know what it was either.  I figured it was some kind of fancy drink or something, so I came here to find out what it was.  It's salad.  Go figure.  --Briefer (talk) 18:42, 22 August 2008 (UTC)

text:  I added a reference to Obama and arugla to follow the niche market sentence. The reference is based on this url:
http://www.newsweek.com/id/134398, and many others. I don't know how to add the reference.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Geneven (talk • contribs) 12:25, 23 August 2008 (UTC)

text: This is an encyclopedia article about a leafy green. The fact that a food item makes the American news (especially in the inane way it did in this case) does not mean we have to make note of it on Wikipedia. -Eric talk 03:16, 8 September 2008 (UTC)

text: I agree. "Arugala eating" is competing with "latte sipping" as a short-hand for "out of touch elitist" in U.S. political culture. (Note that neither signifier has much to do with the actual market/demographic data for the products in question.) This may be a passing thing, inspired by Obama's "gaffe" (“Anybody gone into Whole Foods lately and see what they charge for arugula?”), but it seems to have achieved some critical mass separate from that specific news peg. Clconway (talk) 21:36, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  John McCain reference incorrect 

message: I have never, ever hear do of arugula lettuce or salad in Canada and I am PURE Canadian...we use 'rocket' in our grocery stores.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.225.224.18 (talk) 09:45, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canadians use 'rocket' lettuce as well! 

message: I notice that the section on Obama's reference arugula was tagged, apparently because it cited Media Matters for America (a liberal site), as possibly not relevant. This edit was made by an editor, Thagor Orlando, who is tagging or removing all wikipedia references to MMFAm as POV. 
However, since the reference is in refutation of a conservative claim, it seems to me both relevant and not POV, as it allows a reader to see both sides of the argument and decide for themselves.
Someone quoted this on the editors own page -- a 
* Acceptible Use MMfA is clearly an organization with a political slant. However, that does not mean that their opinion cannot be quoted in a Wikipedia article. Political-based articles routinely cite sources which have a political stance (e.g., NRA, PETA, NAACP). There have been at least 25 reliable source discussions about MMfA, and the general conclusion of the RS forums is that the organization cannot be used as a source of news, but that their opinion can be cited. The text cited above makes it clear that MMfA is a liberal organization, and that the comment in question is their opinion.
I am simply going to add the description "liberal" to the media matters reference, so that it is clear this is from a POV source -- just as the attacks on Obama came from a "conservative" source. This is not POV but is known as "reporting the conflict" and it seems to me is perfectly acceptable.
:For more on this see: Thomas Sowell#Mediation and Arbitration? Mballen (talk) 06:48, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Media Matters for America 

message: The American name Arugula is non-standard Italian (possibly Neapolitan); the standard Italian name is "rucola". According to John Schwenkler, the Oxford English Dictionary dates the first appearance of the word "arugula" to Craig Claiborne's  May 24, 1960, New York Times column, Food News: "A Green by Any Name; Pungent Ingredient Is Cause of Confusion for City Shopper Arugula – or Rocket – Is the Secret of Experts' Salads". Unfortunately, only the abstract  is visible in this NY Times archive link: http://select.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F30C12F83E5916738DDDAD0A94DD405B808AF1D3&scp=1&sq=arugula&st=p 
Schwenkler speculates:It’s quite possible, though, that this term was later seized on by a marketing team, and humble wild rocket was made into the fancier-sounding quasi-delicacy (and the charge of consuming it into the all-purpose populist slur) that it is today. But it’s good! And you should try it! Go to Whole Foods! ---John Schwenkler, "Arugula Linkage", The American Conservative, September 6, 2008.) 
Mballen (talk) 21:46, 12 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, the italian word is "rucola", "the word "arugula" is a dialectal version of the Italian one. --Ilario (talk) 20:21, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of name 'Arugula' used in America 

message: It is not acceptable to quote Brasilian Mozzarella. Mozzarella is only italian cheese. Please remove the quote.
Also the word arugola is from country side, just to be specific if you say arucola in italian restaurant, you are considered very rude and ignorant.
I'm just wondering when englishes and americans will start to understand italian language and culture of food.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lordfaust (talk • contribs) 19:32, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unbelievable quote of Brasilian (Buffalo) Mozzarella 

message: Eruca sativa and Eruca vesicaria should be merged. They are synonyms according to . --Comedora (talk) 06:03, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a good idea. From looking at Eruca, I wonder if both species articles might be merged to there. Eric talk 10:40, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: "It is actually a plant that accumulates a lot of nitrate. In a vegetable survey published in 2008 as part of an EFSA opinion, average nitrate levels varied from a low of 20-30 mg/kg in Brussels sprouts and peas to a high of 4,667 mg/kg in rucola. Other leafy green vegetables also had relatively high nitrate levels with lettuce at 2,026 mg/kg and spinach at 1,066 mg/kg, but nowhere near the levels found in rucola." from https://focusonfoodsafety.wordpress.com/2012/11/09/rucola-good-bad-or-ugly/ referring to an EFSA report http://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/efsajournal/pub/689.htm - click on "PDF" to freely download and view the report. Eating a small amount of it exceeds the EFSA safety guidelines. Nitrate can be or is metabolised into nitrite. 92.3.56.247 (talk) 07:29, 20 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Has the highest levels of nitrate - not to be confused with nitrite 

message: It's done to merge this article.Catfurball (talk) 18:16, 6 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Response to merge request 

message: It is obvious that this is the same plant that in Sweden is called Senapskål As this is also called Eruca vesicaria. But as Eruca vesicaria have been merged with Eruca sativa I'm having trouble fixing the link. 
Anyone with more skills at this that can help?
Mark Gustafsson (talk) 13:11, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi - I wouldn't claim to have any skills with Wikidata, but I gave it a shot. When I tried to add the sv.wp article to the links on this one, I got a conflict error with involving the Wikidata page for  Eruca vesicaria subsp. sativa. So I filed a question there to see if the two Wikidata pages should be merged: :Wikidata:Wikidata:Interwiki_conflicts/Unresolved/2021#Eruca_vesicaria_(Q5395935)/Eruca_vesicaria_subsp._sativa_(Q156884). Maybe  and  will have some input. Eric talk 14:20, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't any skills in this area either. Cwmhiraeth (talk) 16:14, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help with link to the article in Swedish