Talk:Rubik's Revenge

message: Useless link deleted. Konrad Reif  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.68.25.4 (talk) 10:26, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Link

message: Is the Eastsheen 4x4 legal for tournaments? --M1ss1ontomars2k4 04:49, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it is... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aceospades1250 (talk • contribs) 03:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Eastsheen cube

message: whats the height of an official Rubik's Revenge  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.55.202.251 (talk) 21:38, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Official cube

message: Is it possible to group them and solve like 2x2? Ragnaroknike (talk) 05:19, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely! I do this a lot because there's no chance of parity error when it's in 2x2 mode. ;) --JJ Olsen 20:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey SineBot, it looks like you've been malfunctioning! This comment apparently NOT signed by: -JJ Olsen 04:05, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Solve in 2x2 groups

message: There are (or were before the edit I just did) inconsistencies in the spelling of this article; the middle facets of the faces were spelled "centre" in some cases and "center" in others.  I've gone through and changed all the latter (in line with the Rubik's Cube article) to "centre".
I believe one of the Wikipedia guidelines is that spellings within one article should be consistent, i.e. all British or all American.  It certainly looks sloppy to have a mixture.  I propose that this article be standardised on British English, as this is the standard which has been chosen for the Rubik's Cube article. — 79.121.135.185 (talk) 15:38, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Works for me.  My only question is where to draw the line.  All Rubik's Cube variants?  All Combination puzzles?  All puzzles?  Only puzzles of european origin?  - Richfife (talk) 16:11, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a wiki guideline somewhere (can't find it at the moment) that says that it should be consistent within an article, but changing the style in an entire article is unnecessary. Hellbus (talk) 23:41, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The guideline you are looking for is the Manual of Style, specifically, WP:ENGVAR.  This ays "the variety chosen by the first major contributor to the article should be used".  I reverted the recent change on the grounds that the spelling system should not be gratuitously changed, but having now looked at the early edits for this article I see they were all in British English so I will now undo that. SpinningSpark 18:41, 4 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistent spellings 

message: The caption under one of the pictures is as follows: 
Early Rubik's Revenge cube. The colour layout differs from the standard 3x3 cube.
I don't believe there is/was a standard color layout for the 3x3x3 cube. While all cubes had the same six colors, the placement could differ. SlowJog (talk) 03:17, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed the caption to avoid this. Hellbus (talk) 03:12, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Color? 

message: Hi.
My name is Josef and I'm a speedcuber from Sweden. Please don't delete the stuff i write about what kind of methods there are and how they work. The current text about methods does not make a of lot sense. I think it would be better to just explain the reduction method, which, in the end of the day, is the most used method for solving big cubes. I have participated in official competetions so I think I know what I'm writing about... Thanks! :) Swedishcuber (talk) 17:36, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your contribution Josef, but I think you need to familiarise yourself with some of Wikipedia's policies and guidelines before you go on.  Most importantly, we do not accept contributions as being reliable just because the person providing them claims to be an expert.  We have no way of verifying this.  Rather, verification policy relies on citations to reliable sources.  Follow the link to see what we consider reliable sources to be, but these do not include open wikis, including our own.  Further Wikipedia is not a how to guide - our aim is not to teach readers to solve the puzzle.  You might also want to consult our guideline on external links. SpinningSpark 19:33, 10 January 2012 (UTC)

text: Your contribution was reverted as much for the way it was written as the actual content (WP:HOWTO).  You are not being accused of not being reliable, the point is verifiability (WP:V).  You say you can provide sources but you have provided no references (WP:RS).  I am not convinced that you have yet actually looked at the guidelines I have linked to.  Please do so, and, if you are able, base your argument for inclusion on Wikipedia policies.  If your point is that you do not like Wikipedia policies then this is the wrong page for that discussion, you want a different page entirely.  The concern that material already in the article might be unreliable, is unreferenced etc it beside the point.  This discussion is about your contribution, which stands or falls on its own merits, regardless of what else is on Wikipedia - see WP:OTHERSTUFF.  It is also worth pointing out that this article is not about speedcubing, and what may apply in the speedcubing community does not necessarily apply elsewhere. SpinningSpark 18:38, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Methods  

message: It seems to me that there is another swap-combination which is possible on the 4X4X4 but not on the 3X3X3 ... namely, on a 4X4X4 it is possible to exchange just two corner-pieces - without disturbing anything else... Do you agree? --DLMcN (talk) 12:24, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, (reading the discussion on the Talk-Page) it sounds as if the centre-pieces will get disturbed, even if on most puzzles a permutation of centre-pieces is not immediately obvious--DLMcN (talk) 12:29, 2 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Turning one of the outer layers causes an even permutation of the edges (two odd cycles) and an odd permutation of the corners and centers. If the center pieces are marked, it becomes impossible to swap two corners and nothing else. With unmarked centers they are still permuted, but this cannot be seen. Hellbus (talk) 06:32, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swapping just two corners 

message: The Rubik's Revenge is a very old cube. If you want to give it it's own wikipedia page, that's fine, but it's wrong to include all 4x4 information on this page. The Rubik's Revenge is outdated and unused. It hasn't been used at a competition for many years, and this page should reflect that. Calling this page "Rubik's Revenge" is misleading and a bad idea.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hadofhfo (talk • contribs) 16:07, 5 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is named for the first 4×4×4 cube introduced, just as the name Professor's Cube was only used for the first 5×5×5 cubes. There really isn't a compelling reason to change it. Hellbus (talk) 04:06, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
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