Talk:Bagong Alyansang Makabayan

message: Would anyone mind if I made the references up to Wikipedia standards? Instead of a direct link to a website after the claim it would lead to a footnote or reference, which would explain the proof.  Namtug 23:14, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean-up Process

message: The Bayan Muna (People First) party topped the partylist polls in 2001 and 2004.
This means that the party garnered the highest number of votes among all parties that joined the partylist polls.
It trounced government-sponsored parties, surrogates of mainstream parties, religious parties and anti-communist groups. This, inspite the deadly attacks on its members before, during and after the campaign period.
A party that garners two percent of all partylist votes is entitled to one partylist seat in Congress.
Bayan Muna's garnered over 10 percent of all partylist votes in 2001 and 2004, and thereby enabled it to occupy three seats in both elections.
This showing has a signal meaning to Philippine political scientific circles since it debunks the myth of left irrelevance in local politics and proved that the Left remains a potent political force to be reckoned with.
In 2004, two other parties also garnened over six but less than 10 percent.
But is it a good thing? UPDATEː can votes cast in ignorance and lack of understanding truly be an exercise of freedom? As such can BAYAN be called truly democratic? You only need to go to BAYAN's rallies and ask people there why they're there. Most of them don't know why they are there. Most are just paid. Most employees they represent only wish to work and get a pay for their families. Not bring down foreign companies or say companies have no right to profits. Responsiblebum 05:25, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is inappropriate for a Wikipedia forum. If you have allegations of BAYAN paying off members, offer your proof. Conjecture is the toy of puppeteers and sophists, not historians. It is disturbing that someone so aligned toward the group has done so much here - a testament to the entry's decrepitude and bias. 216.99.39.34 19:09, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  re Bayan Muna 

message: It's proper to give the Partido ng Bayan and Makabayang Koalisyon ng Mamamayan separate articles, and not just be mere subsections in this article. –HTD 12:35, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no point. They would only end up as three stub articles. This article should be treated like the various incarnations of the Nacionalista Party and Liberal Party. Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 04:39, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a point. They're separate entities. Erap and Jinggoy are separate articles. FWIW, the Partido ng Bayan was quite more diverse than the present-day Makabayang Koalisyon ng Mamamayan. –HTD 08:58, 5 May 2015 (UTC)

text: All three are just one party but because Communist parties are technically illegal in the Philippines, they are forced to use pseudonyms..Shhhhwwww!! (talk) 00:14, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I dunno if being "all three are just one party" is true, but even if it is, we don't merge and redirect the Bayan Muna, GABRIELA, Anakpawis, etc. articles here, as they are, including PNB and MKM, are "distinct entities". Being "technically illegal" (which it isn't, as Cory legalized them in the 1980s) doesn't matter. Think of it as Bagong Alyansang Makabayan as the "umbrella organization", something like the mother company of a conglomerate. –HTD 03:12, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split 

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message: National Democracy doesn't necessarily mean communism or Marxism-Leninism-Maoism. It was formed before the CPP was reestablished or NDF was founded. Allegations that BAYAN is communist or Maoist are unfounded and is propaganda by the government. Such claims should be backed up by reliable sources (like BAYAN explicitly admitting that they are communist). Pandakekok9 (talk) 13:42, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  National Democracy≠ Communism or Marxism-Leninism-Maoism 

message: . 180.191.192.107 (talk) 04:20, 11 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why did they help the change from Democracy to Demonicracy