Talk:Shane McMahon

message: Shane has 2 children and his wife Marissa is pregnant with a third child as it says on Shanes Myspace. Here is a link to were it
says it http://bulletins.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=bulletin.read&authorID=485266321&messageID=6535702907  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.203.7.56 (talk) 00:25, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Children

message: Was it Shane who came up with the idea of The Boogeyman? ThinkBlue 18:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shane / The Boogeyman 

message: Decided to delete all references to it for now. Alexrushfear 20:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He's NOT dead!!!!!!   ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 20:50, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Precisely ;-) Alexrushfear 23:18, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just wanted to make sure!!!!   ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:23, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vince's 'death' 

message: For some reason the following reference,  (used to cite his rank on Detail Magazine's "most powerful men" list), is blacklisted. I think because it contains the word "men" in the link but I'm not entirely sure. -  Deep   Shadow  14:33, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blacklist 

message: I added a "Citation Needed" tag for the claim that Lou Thesz trained Shane McMahon.  I haven't been able to find any evidence for this.  I've found references to him being trained by Vince McMahon, Pat Patterson, Jerry Brisco and Al Snow, but no reference to Lou Thesz.  Is anyone able to clear this up? GaryColemanFan 03:13, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who trained Shane McMahon? 

message: Was Shane at ringside for the Hornswaggle-Khali match? (Sawyer (talk) 00:26, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 01:35, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survivor Series 2007 

message: Just added this to the main page and wrote what he did in the NO Way Out paperview. So if you want you can make it sound more encyclopedia like. I tried. Julie 12:19, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  2008 

message: Had heard Shane had divorced Marissa and married someone called Shannon? Any truth to this? CrazyFoolMrT (talk) 09:33, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Divorce? 

message: The German Article doesn't exist. Please someone delete this link because I cant ;-) 88.64.112.179 (talk) 21:05, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  German not available 

message: Uh, so when has Shane ever done that?  I'll buy a moonsault, but there's no video on teh youtube and I would think someone would have posted that.  I'll leave it for awhile but I'd like to see some actual references to confirm that it actually did happen.  He's a good wrestler for a non-full timer, but he's no Paul London in terms of flexibility.
: He broke it out against Kurt Angle at King of the Ring 2001, although he did miss it.FlairFanClassic (talk) 13:13, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Shane, shooting star press?

message: Where are Sources for the Nicknames and wrestling moves?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Washington95 (talk • contribs) 00:51, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: Shane McMahon used to come out to ring by the song Here Comes The Money. Does it say in the article about his enterance.--Pabloviva22 (talk) 22:05, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enter. 

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message: As Shane has returned on Monday Night Raw there is a rampage of vandalism. Do not edit the page nor alter it what so ever.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Silver24shil (talk • contribs) 02:01, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
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message: I am in favor of protecting this page from vandalism, who's with me? 72.172.41.18 (talk) 04:25, 23 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Page should be semi-protected 

message: Acc to the wikipedia article Lesnar has 4 childs.
Eldest child is one half of twins: Mya - born April 10, 2002
Eldest SON is the other half: LUKE - born also April 10, 2002 (10 minutes later)
Both childs are with his former fiance Nicole McLain.
Lesnar also has two sons with Sable:
Turk, born June 3, 2009 and
DUKE, born July 21, 2010.
The article about Shane McMahon says, that his eldest Son Declan is a longtime friend of DUKE. 
Duke is 6 years younger than Declan and was born when neither Lesnar nor McMahon was working for WWE.
Luke is only 1,5 years older than Declan and the eldest son of Lesnar, so I think the friend of Declan must be LUKE (aka Brock Jr.).
I've changed it.
87.78.208.240 (talk) 10:27, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lesnar's Sons 

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message: Please stop editing the birthdates of celebrities. Dkingz (talk) 05:18, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop changing birth dates 

message: His real birthday is January 15, 1970. Dkingz (talk) 05:22, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthday  

message: This page has a lot of missing citations, hence I tagged it. THE NEW ImmortalWizard(chat) 20:54, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  More citations needed 

message: McMahon is a fourth-generation wrestling promoter...
How is he a 4th-generation wrestling promoter? Vince (his dad) and Vince's dad were into wrestling, but was Vince's grandfather also in wrestling business? That would make Shane involved in wrestling in the 4th generation. 2001:999:82:FF8:D417:E3E2:1FAD:7774 (talk) 22:32, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Jess McMahon --Khajidha (talk) 15:09, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  [Shane] McMahon is a fourth-generation wrestling promoter... 

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message: Please do not remove information about this, this is extremely WP:Notable and highly publicized, the most talked about matter in pro wrestling in 2022 and there are sufficient WP:PW/RS such as PWTORCH,  411MANI, CBS Sports, Sports Illustrated and every WP:PW member's favorite Dave Meltzer and his WON among other WP/PW:RS to back this up. Someone reverted the edits of three different users to cover this highly notable information and is attempting to provoke a WP:EW which I do not want to participate in. I request proper compliance with Wikipedia guidelines and to go for a proper consensus by seeking an WP:RfC. Best wishes. Dilbaggg (talk) 12:19, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Shane McMahon being "fired" was misleading and false reporting at the time. Those same outlets reporting on it are now essentially making a retraction, backtracking saying that he's now still employed because of new information that has came out. Please add that he was never fired in the first place, or that said reports of his "firing" were later contradicted. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 17:03, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fired for Royal Rumble 2022 booking 

message: These same sources tried to claim that Shane was relieved of duties last year. They aren't credible sources. Here's an article from The Sportster . In the article, it says:
"Wrestling Inc. and Fightul are both reporting sources have noted Shane McMahon is that he is no longer involved with the company. There are, however, conflicting reports on this. Wrestling Inc. is reporting that he is no longer under contract even though WWE insists he is “still a WWE talent and under a deal.” Other reports suggest he is rarely, if ever seen at the WWE offices anymore."
This was obviously not true as he ended up returning to WWE TV at the 2022 Royal Rumble event. Days after, loads of sources again try to claim that Shane had been "let go" after a supposedly heavily criticised Rumble match that Shane was involved in the booking of. Great, so WWE would report he's left the company right? He's literally the chairman's (Vince McMahon) son and you don't think for a second that they wouldn't announce his departure? Someone makes a claim from an "inside source." Who's the source? Who's said what? Where's the evidence for the departure? Someone can create false information to create a story by claiming it's from an inside source. Who's verified it? Dave Meltzer? That's the example that people are giving? He's been publicly known for having a track record of being unreliable. Just because something is reported, doesn't make it automatically true. We should all know that if you claim something, you need to back it up with evidence. All these "reports" FAILED to do that. Mainstream outlets that are typically known as more reliable and credible, ate it up and ran with what they saw without trying to verify the story themselves. 
Days after again, a tweet comes out of a New York businessman by the name of Marco Masotti, revealing he's doing a business deal with WWE and their representative is Shane McMahon meaning he NEVER departed the company. People reported a false rumour as a fact and Wikipedia is doing just that also. These "journalists" couldn't admit that they lied and partially made a soft retraction based on something which was falsely reported in the first place just to try not to tarnish their credibility (if they even had any to begin with). I took issue with that, I cited WP:Rumour and the quotes from that article on Wikipedia guidelines. 
 "Articles that present original research in the form of extrapolation, speculation, and "future history" are inappropriate."
 "Wikipedia is not a collection of product announcements and rumors. Although Wikipedia includes up-to-date knowledge about newly revealed products, short articles that consist of only product announcement information and rumors are not appropriate."
We need to be rectifying the article based on it. WrestlingInc and Wrestling News are unreliable, but they still previously reported Shane McMahon being "fired" or "let go" as fact. WWE or Shane McMahon himself never confirmed that Shane was let go. These independent sources that have been provided were running a narrative on a now disproved false story. I assume Inside the Ropes is (somewhat) more reliable? . We should never be presenting rumours as facts and these "sources" should know that. Wikipedia should know that. Things like this are why people don't consider Wikipedia to be a reliable source of information either. The site's track record in pop culture is laughable. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 20:39, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Your whole argument is "sources are wrong". However, the unreliable sources you gave are just on assumptions based on a picture was posted, the definition of wp:rumor. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 21:38, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: About the no statemet, do you really expect WWE to say "Yeah, my son fucked it so much that we had to release him". WWE, as a public trade company, has his own interest, so that's why WP:INDEPENDENTSOURCES are needed. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 21:41, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

text: At least the unreliable sources I provided actually attached a tweet to hint that he's still with WWE. What about your unreliable sources? What is their evidence? People saying "insiders confirmed" with no evidence? Anyone could say "insiders confirm" and then say whatever they want, but because they say "insiders confirm" that means it's automatically true? Clearly, in Shane's case, this obviously wasn't true. This whole story was FALSELY  reported last summer as a FACT instead of a RUMOUR. That was clearly false as Shane McMahon returned at the Royal Rumble just TWO WEEKS AGO. You expect them to run that same story again and expect it to be true when after the fact a businessman confirms he met with Shane McMahon as a WWE representative for a partnership? Could anyone else chime in please and let their thoughts be heard on this situation. Many thanks. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 22:13, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Dave Meltzer is a reliable source. Your only argument is "reliable source is wrong" while you trust unreliable sources that just made assumptions (without confirmations) based on a picture. Reliable source=he was released. Unreliable source=maybe he stills with WWE because there is a picture, but no confirmation, so it's a rumor. --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 22:20, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  The initial reports are later contradicted, so we can't even officially say that he's been let go. So yes, it's still a rumour. I'm just going to tag  and  and see what they think because they've been involved in adding and removing this information also, I'd love to hear what you two think. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 22:31, 20 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want to include shane, it's easy. A RELIABLE source confirming he is not released. Until now, you just gave unreliable sources making assumptions without confirmation. The problem is the mentality "No WWE confirmation, it's a rumor", so at the end,a rticles are just repetition of the info WWE wants to share, which violates WP:INDEPENDENTSOURCE.  --HHH Pedrigree (talk) 22:35, 20 February 2022 (UTC)

text:   Thanks for getting back to me regarding the topic. I completely agree with you on the fact it seems incredibly unlikely that he was released. I want the Shane McMahon article to not feel misleading and at the moment, it does. What do you reckon we should do? Mention that it was reported that he was initially believed to be released but this later was revealed to not be the case or not mention any of it at all and rather have a hidden note? I'm rather torn on what we should do about it and I'm unhappy and uncomfortable about Wikipedia currently reporting misleading information as fact. If you have any suggestions about this, then I'd fully appreciate that as we just can't leave this page in its current state. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 18:43, 21 February 2022 (UTC)

text: The Shane McMahon article has now been taken care of. I'm glad we could resolve this issue. Many thanks. Rockmusicfanatic20 (talk) 20:18, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm of the thought that yes, he is still with the company in some behind the scenes capacity outside of being a performer. However, you did NOT reach consensus. Consensus is not a simple wait and see if someone agrees with you and then change it as soon as they do situation. It's also not necessarily based on a majority vote. I suggest referring to WP:TALKDONTREVERT before going further with another revert. NJZombie (talk) 20:40, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Untrue reports of Shane McMahon's departure

message: There have been two sections now discussing Shane's status in WWE and whether or not we should say he was fired after the 2022 Royal Rumble. These discussions do not appear to have reached a consensus nor a conclusion, and there seems to be a bit of a stalemate. As this is a WP:BLP I think we should formalise this discussion as an RfC and reach a definitive conclusion. 
I haven't participated in the discussions above and am presently undecided on the matter, so the very neutral question is, what should we write regarding Shane McMahon's status with WWE?. — Czello 20:05, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I think at this point in time (Late February) it's hard to truly know what Shane's status is, but looking online through things like Google News, the majority of sources still seem to take the position that Shane was indeed "fired" (removed from creative, possibly also from on-screen) after the Rumble. This seemed to occur not simply because of the Rumble, but it was a "straw that broke the camel's back" moment, a cumulation of things. The sources suggesting that Shane has not been fired do not contradict the idea the idea that Shane has been removed from creative and possibly from on-screen, and merely suggests he remains on the payroll in a business capacity. There's a difference between being fired from your roles, and being fired from the company outright. I believe based on sources we can curently state the former, while the latter may still be contested. This information can of course be altered if more news comes out subsequently on this topic. CeltBrowne (talk) 21:49, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC on Shane's status with WWE