Talk:Elaine Hamilton-O'Neal

message: Is there anyone out there who would like to translate the Elaine Hamilton article into French, to be posted on French Wikipedia? - MdArtLover 18:58, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for translation into French

message: As so often happens with women artists, one sees this artist's name in many forms. The greater Baltimore telephone directory shows her name in the hyphenated form used at the top of this article, but other sources (such as Askart.com) call her simply Elaine Hamilton, as though she'd never married, while yet others list her as "Elaine Hamilton O'Neal", omitting the hyphen. Moreover, she signed her work inconsistently — sometimes signing herself (even after marrying) "Elaine Hamilton", sometimes "Elaine H. O'Neal", and sometimes simply "Hamilton". The 2006 Benezit dictionary lists her as "Elaine Hamilton", with no mention of the married name (which, to further complicate matters, is sometimes spelled without the apostrophe as "O Neal," "ONeal," or "Oneal"); 
The MarylandArtSource.com article gives her name as "Elaine Hamilton O'Neal" (no hyphen). Her final interview in November 2009 with the Baltimore Magazine explained that she uses her maiden name professionally, while personally, she uses "Elaine Hamilton O'Neal" (no hyphen) or simply "Elaine H. O'Neal." Baltimore Magazine Article Cindamuse (talk) 15:23, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal/professional name  

message: It is difficult to establish a clear chronology on many points in the life of this artist. For example, the reader may have noticed an apparent discrepancy above: Craven writes that Elaine Hamilton was promoting abstract expressionism as a "universal style" in Pakistan during the 1950s, yet Marylandartsource.com asserts that she did not paint her first purely abstract painting until 1960. This would appear to be a contradiction, yet it must be remembered that Willem De Kooning's paintings of women are not purely abstract either, yet they are considered quintessential examples of abstract expressionism. But it is also possible that one of these two sources is simply in error.
Here is another example of apparent discrepancy: not only does David Craven place Hamilton in Pakistan "during the 1950s", but also Rasheed Araeen (who is Pakistani [1]) explicitly asserts that Hamilton was in Pakistan "at the time of the CIA’s supported military coup in Pakistan in 1957". Yet Marylandartsource.com tells us that after she went to Italy on a Fulbright in 1952 "the award was extended through 1953 and she chose to remain in Italy until 1959." It's very confusing: did she fly off for a brief side trip to Pakistan during her stay in Italy? One can only guess at explanations.
Certainly the exact chronology of events in the life of someone who traveled, worked, and exhibited so widely and frequently as Elaine Hamilton-O'Neal is a daunting task. Even while technically in residence in some particular place - whether Baltimore, New York, Mexico City, Florence, Karachi, Paris, or Birmingham, Alabama - she appears frequently to have been away on far-flung junkets to other places. The Benezit Dictionary does not exaggerate when it calls her a "globetrotter". Moreover, it does not help matters that she was apparently not in the habit of dating her paintings when she signed them (with any of the several versions of her name). In terms of chronology, any future biographer will have quite a job sorting all of this out.
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The above information was initially a part of the article. During copy editing and cleanup, I moved it to the talk page to open up for discussion. Cindamuse (talk) 15:39, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problems of chronology 

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