Talk:Wally Hedrick

message: Where the same source is used more than once in the article as a reference, it should be given a name the first time it's used, e.g.: 
: Details of reference as normal  
The second time or subsequent times the same reference is used in the article, use the name as a short cut, e.g.:
: 
Don't forget the / or subsequent text won't appear!
The source then appears once in the reference section with a, b, c etc linked to the different uses in the text. See William Bowyer for an example.
Also, it's not usual to quote chunks of text in the footnotes. If it's important, it should go in the article, or be paraphrased in the article. 
Tyrenius 15:24, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Multiple uses of a reference

message: I'm really glad that this article exists and I appreciate the effort that has gone into it. I do feel though that it's getting a bit out of hand. The artist is best served by a neutral encyclopedic artcle. To this end it needs a bit of cleaning-up: there shouldn't be so many separate sections, and the section headings should avoid over-stating the case or presenting a particular point of view (eg "Hedrick's Pre-Pop Paintings Predate Japer Johns"). Also the references need to be integrated into the text, rather than standing alone.--Ethicoaestheticist 21:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Art4em Don't worry, I'm not going to launch into an argument about who painted flags first! "Hedrick's pre-Pop paintings pre-date Jasper Johns" is fine as a statement in the article, backed up, as it is, with sources (though the repeated prefix does look a bit over-defensive!). When the same statement is used as a section heading, though, it becomes something else. As ever there's a wiki policy to give advice on this sort of thing. WP:NPOV#Article structure lists "'Segregation' of text or other content into different regions or subsections, based solely on the apparent POV of the content itself" as something that may warrant attention. The capitalization didn't help, and the de-capitalization of the section headings in accordance with wikistyle has partly addressed the problem.--Ethicoaestheticist 10:07, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I've rearranged the article into chronological order. I think this makes it easier to follow.--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 20:54, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutral point of view needs to be maintained

message: User:John is very familiar with WP:MOS usage, so I've asked him to look through the article with that mind, which he has kindly done. Tyrenius (talk) 12:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there some particular areas of concern? Alice✉ 00:52, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:MOS]]

message: Before you start separating Wally from his age:
 (ie (→1950s - removed extraneous info about Vesuvio's bar and the use of the term 'Beat', keeping the material specific to Hedrick, not the whole scene at the time)
  
...I would like to ask you the following: 
1. First, this is absurd since Wally "ushered in the age" demonstrably -- that was a MAJOR accomplishment few can claim in any age. 
2. "Wally had a commanding hand in the very night the "San Francisco Renaissance" was made (Heck, Wally himself illegally turned on the lights to the gallery!) -- heck, we might even call Wally a Medici for that night. 
3.  I do not see anyone asking for Ginsberg, or Kerouac et al to be separated from their age...Why? because that would be absurd since they would be laughed off the discussion board.
4.  Wally's place of residence was "the epicenter of the scene".  
Credit Wally, for bringing to light (and quickly) the uneven handedness of this wiki process. Please, go work on some of the many other articles that have no footnotes, citations, objection and (eventually) significance of Wally.
Thank you
--Art4em (talk) 05:44, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In the edit you refer to , I removed (uncited) information about the location of Vesuvio's bar and the fact that Kerouac frequented it, with the phrase "Vesuvio's, a popular beat hangout" which conveys the relevance more succinctly. I retained the quote about Hedrick saying he and his circle were the real Beat generation, but removed details about the origin of the term Beat, and Bruce Connor's opposition to it, which aren't relevant to Hedrick (who, the quote shows, had no problem with the term). I retained the statement about Hedrick ushering in the Beat lifestyle, and bus tours to Beat locations, because there is a reference (although it isn't clear whether the reference supports the whole sentence, or just the part about bus tours). As for telling me what articles I should or should not edit, I'm afraid that's my decision, not yours.--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 12:13, 27 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Accepted, a citation for Vesuvio's address is a fairly trivial point.--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 18:13, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Wally Hedrick being seperated from "The Whole"

message: As far as I can tell the vast majority of Art4em's contributions appear to be hoaxes. If anyone more knowledgeable about the subject than I can scan an eye over his/her edits that would be much appreciated. See talk:Party Down Scandal (LG Williams) and talk:L. G. Williams. Debate (talk) 14:12, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Despite some disagreements about the style of the article, Art4em's contribution to this article has been constructive and well-intentioned. The sources are genuine, and Wally Hedrick is a notable subject for an article, and definitely not a hoax.--Ethicoaestheticist (talk) 17:10, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Art4em Hoaxes

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message: It appears that this artist was an original member of the Rat Bastard Protective Association. I am interested in the RBPA. The dates for the RBPA would be from c.1959 to today, for example: Manuel Neri, Joan Brown, Jay DeFeo, Wally Hedrick, Wallace Berman, Jess, and George Herms. However, little or no material pertains to the RBPA on this page? Does any editor have any thoughts on this? See Rebecca Solnit, ‘Heretical Constellations: Notes on California, 1946–61’, in Sussman, ed., Beat Culture and the New America, 69–122, especially 71. --Ratbastardassn (talk) 20:46, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rat Bastard Protective Association 

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