Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/HHO gas

message: :::The erroneous motivation for the deletion of this page was to prevent potential investors/victims of Denny Klein from using wikipedia to discover what his product was really all about. Wikipedia is a source many people use to find information that debunks thing's like Brown's gas, Uri Geller, Perpetual Motion devices, etc. If such pages are being removed it generally means someone is investing time to make sure people do not know of such hoaxes. Meaning the article serves a useful purpose as it points out the lack of scientific credibility to people who might be considering sending this joker a check. Articles about crap like bigfoot and coldfusion are allowed on wikipedia. A hoax article is when the actual article has no basis outside of the article itself and was just made up. That isn't the case with this article. Majestic Lizard 21:22, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved from AfD page

message: I don't understand why the page could not just be changed to say this is a hoax and give information on it? Having no page at all is crazy.. i can't find any information on this supposed HHO gas, except this page for deletion! There doesn't even seem to be a Brown's Gas page (as referenced many times in the discussion). I would like to have some information, even if it is just to say this is a hoax!
: Almost anytime I read an articles for deletion page I can never follow the discussion or reasoning.  It just seems like some god-like force in wikipedia removes the article and all that's left are screaming voices. -- 71.218.50.181 04:37, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Crazy

message: I completely agree with last post. Please include this article. If wikipedia is to be a valuable resource, it must/should include information on HHO. The information about the Denny Klein's hoax is also valuable (this is the Fox new video). After all, many UFOs hoaxes are found on wikipedia.
Furthermore, HHO also called HOH, is very similar (but not the same as)  Brown's gas, a mixture of 11% hydrogen and oxygen (http://www.phact.org/e/bgas.htm). This was tested in the welding industry as a possible fuel source but results in exothermic decompression (implosion) when the tanks are almost empty. Brown's gas is not in wikipedia either. Yet both HHO and Brown's gas are real substances. They have real properties, some of which are dangerous. Wikipedia does have a page for oxy-hydrogen (basically HHO), but no properties on its safety, or applicability as an automotive fuel. I believe Klein's video shows a HHO booster, similar to hydrogen boosters which already exists. (http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks.com/Articles/index.cfm/act/featuredarticles/article/the-hydrogen-boosted-gasoline-engine-cga.html). However, they do not replace gasoline engines as you cannot get 100 miles from a gallon of water. (http://mb-soft.com/public2/storing.html)... Bottom line. Real facts about it are needed on wikipedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.194.208.203 (talk • contribs).
This whole thing smells of a conspiracy which is against the whole project ethos. Even if this was a hoax there should be an article on it. Ssssstu 03:15, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Take it up at Wikipedia:Deletion review. This deletion discussion is closed; the only way to revisit the outcome is via WP:DRV. --Christopher Thomas 06:11, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Agreed