Talk:Apple crisp

message: How is Apple Cobbler a variant of Apple Crisp? The two are very different dishes.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.64.8.106 (talk) 08:15, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  How 

message: I am making a point that an American assimilation of a very different dish is not acceptable. They are yards apart. The point of the British crumble is that it does precisely that: it crumbles -- it is not "crisp".
A British crumble topping does not contain oats. It is simply, flour, butter, sugar. The picture shows anything but.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:2002:2F8:A2BE:898D:DE06:F757:A6D5 (talk) 06:47, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm late to this terrible party-gone-wrong, but I agree with whoever wrote this section. Early apple crumble recipes do not mention oats, rolled or otherwise, or brown sugar. The lead article is simply wrong, and I support the split proposal (see below). — Jon (talk) 00:35, 22 September 2021 (UTC)

text: The text of the above recipe in my 1960 Beeton has been reproduced on ckbk but has been attributed incorrectly to the first 1861 edition of Beeton. The apple crumble recipe would have first appeared in Beeton somewhere in the 1930s or 1940s.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jonathanischoice (talk • contribs) 00:42, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: There were no recipe-naming police around to tell the cookbook authors that their recipes have the "wrong" names.  All of these things get called all of these names by various people.  This dish has streusel vs baking powder biscuits or pie crust.  Streusel can be, and is, made with and without oats (also with and without nuts).  People aren't wrong just because they didn't change the name when they added one ingredient. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:48, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not sure what point you're trying to make or who you're accusing of being the recipe-naming police, but the points made here were simply that 1. apple crumble has an early 20th century British origin, 2. did not originally involve oats or brown sugar, and 3. is not the same dessert as apple crisp (although the term "crumble" can refer to the latter in North America). These are well-sourced and relatively uncontroversial facts, and should be conveyed in the lead paragraph (of apple crumble, which has since been split out). We need not judge which is best, or which or whose variations are right or wrong. In fact, describing the variations and where and when they originated etc. can be a fun rabbit hole to go down. — Jon (talk) 20:52, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  This "Apple Crisp" bears no relation to British "Apple Crumble" 

message: Canada does not use the term Apple Crisp- maybe on boxes of the dessert frozen, but not in day to day usage. It's usually apple crumble, when referring to the dish with or without oats. 
Additionally, there's a pretty large difference between Apple Crumble and Apple Crisp, and they should be seperate pages. Not to mention the baffling addition of a cobbler on this page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spanderson96 (talk • contribs) 19:13, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canadian usage 

message: I suggested that this article be split into two articles each titled Apple crisp and Apple crumble, per WP:CONSPLIT. --Melsj (talk) 01:38, 13 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting proposal 12 June 2020 

message: Does the lead image appear to have a bottom pie crust to anyone else's eyes?  If so, that's probably a apple pie with streusel topping, not an apple crisp. WhatamIdoing (talk) 04:49, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead image