Talk:Alice

message: the name of to 13 year olds
and meany amasing women and grils the name should mean if i am correct the gift.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.193.109.121 (talk) 18:29, 5 January 2010 (UTC)

message: I'm merging the dab A.L.I.C.E. with this dab (I'll be finished in about ten minutes). If anyone objects to these changes, please say so here. I'm doing this without first putting up a  tag due to A.L.I.C.E. already having been split today, and this seemed to be the next natural course of action (and so I doubt anyone'll object, but I figured I should probably offer a place to do so). Hope there's no troubles, but this is easily revertable if necessary, and I don't imagine any problems. --Blackcap | talk 05:58, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: To be honest, I don't like the tendency on Wikipedia of merging acronyms with natural names and words. -Acjelen 06:11, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: O.K., I'll stop merging. Why don't you like that? It's much easier to navigate and find what you're looking for if you have just one page for one word. I don't really see a difference between natural words and acronyms in terms of dabs. A dab exists to help a person find what they need, and to split up that information unnecessarily makes it harder to do that. I don't find any information on acronyms/natural words in Wikipedia:Disambiguation or Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages), so there isn't (AFAICS) a precedent to go by either way; but it seems to me that merging would make navigation easier without any significant detriment. (Note: I'm going to put up  tags directing to this talk now). Blackcap | talk 06:42, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I am always confused and surprised when looking for an acronym to find myself on a non-acronym (and usually messy) article or some page with lots of "And X is also" sections.  It is equally maddening to search for a regular word and end up with an acronym.  It seems to me that it would be better to name acronym articles in all capitals and non with the usual capitalization.  Sadly, this runs into the tendency in non-American English to capitalize only the first letter of acronyms. -Acjelen 06:58, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

text: I believe standard procedure with when both all-caps and lower case mean different things, is to have two different disambiguation pages and have them link to each other.  I would think having ALICE and Alice would make the most sense here. -- SCZenz 06:20, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you know where that information is? I couldn't find any precedents, or any relevant info in WP:D or Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages). If that's true, then there's no reason to talk about this further (here, anyways), but I didn't see that anywhere I looked. --Blackcap | talk 06:52, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, I think ATLAS and Atlas (disambiguation) are rather nice to have separated, and well-done.  But I don't know of any guideline.  The point is that all-caps denotes an acronym, which is rather different from different uses of a word—and we do have templates specifically for acronym pages, e.g. Template:5LA. -- SCZenz 08:34, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: support combined page  True, I can understand the argument that  people like to see ATLAS and Atlas separated, and  I would normally take such an anally retentive line on this one myself.  However I would expect that 95% of the droves would not distinguish when searching.  The Principle of least astonishment should apply here, and I think that most people would be more astonished to find that searching for "Alice" does not match up with "ALICE" than if it did.  I think that wikipedia should be organised in the way that makes it easiest for people to find what they are looking for.  This is after all why we contribute to wikipedia, to share knowledge.  As a result, I agree with Blackcap that there should be one page for the sequence of characters a-l-i-c-e and that this should be case-insensitive, providing a dab to all possible meanings of the 'word.' Guinness 13:01, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  The two pages should link to each other.  So if somebody types in "ALICE" because his caps lock is on, and doesn't see what he's looking for, ther'll be a link at the bottom saying "Alice" also means many things, and they can try there.  So the problem you describe doesn't exist—and I think it's silly to crowd more onto one disambiguation page than necessary, which may also confuse people. -- SCZenz 16:11, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well spotted, you win the prize for spotting the deliberate flaw in my argument. Guinness 16:17, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Are you joking? A.L.I.C.E is hardly the usual thing people mean by "Alice". Maybe amongst certain computer geeks, but not most people... --Chaosfeary 11:30, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

text: either way, in future if you are having discussions like this could you put a {mergedisputed}} (no spaces) tag on rather than {merge}}, because then i would have known not to merge it without checking. thank you Jdcooper 14:35, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, I didn't know that the  tag existed. Either way, though, I'd recommend checking; it's probably not ever completely safe to merge without looking over the talk pages first. Blackcap | talk 15:33, 11 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Honestly, there's a discuss link on the regular merge tag.  If it were a no-brainer, somebody would have just done it already! {merge}} is not a work-request tag, it's a call for discussion. Or am I misreading what it says? -- SCZenz 16:28, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: To me, the fact that it is separate from the {mergedisputed}} tag implies that it is used for merges that aren't disputed, but i guess thats just a different way of looking at it. there are hundreds of articles that are no-brainers that no-one has done, i mistook this for another one. apologies, but its all sorted now i guess. Jdcooper 16:48, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with [[A.L.I.C.E.]] 

message: The first line currently reads:
:Alice is a female given name.
I changed it to take out the wikilinks and they were edited back in.  My reading of the Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages) guideline is that they should not be there.  Opinions? Tedernst 21:43, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  dab style 

message: The consensus of the discussion above, #Merge with A.L.I.C.E, seemed to me to be not to merge.  I have therefore reverted the merge done just now without discussion.  We can discuss it more, of course; it wasn't a terribly strong consensus.  -- SCZenz 01:57, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Can we take down the merge tags now? It seems like there isn't any more discussion on the subject, and that the merge isn't going to happen. Blackcap | talk 00:58, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'd concur with that. -- SCZenz 10:04, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: O.K. then, I'll take them down. If anyone disagrees, and still has something to say about the merge, please feel free to put them back up. --Blackcap | talk 11:57, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge reverted 

message: The name derives from the Greek Alike, i.e. crimson, in the feminine.
I've never heard of this before. Every name keyring/etc I've owned, or seen, and every baby book (cite  for plausible example) states the name Alice (through 'Adelaide') is derived from Old German, and meaning 'Nobility'. Either the name has two eytomologies or one is wrong. Lady BlahDeBlah 20:28, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That statement was introduced back on 23 March 2006 (see diff) by an anonymous user (62.1.67.52) who has made only one other contribution to Wikipedia. Since I find its authenticity to be highly dubious, I am removing it for the time being. Ayla 02:49, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name meaning 

message: In the light of recent discussions, I would propose splitting off the list into a new Alice (given name) article. This is already being done for other articles (see, for example, Jessica and Jessica (given name)), and would help to reduce the page clutter. I will take up the task myself if no-one finds any objections. Ayla 10:14, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alice (given name) 

message: What about the large town of Alice, Eastern Cape in South Africa?? --Bezuidenhout (talk) 15:01, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alice, Eastern Cape???? 

message: hello  — Preceding unsigned comment added by CassandraAlicia (talk • contribs) 01:12, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Test 

message: I feel like Alice Corp. v. CLS Bank Int'l should be in the Computers section as well. Is it allowed to list an article in multiple places in a disambiguation page? —Galaktos (talk) 19:48, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alice vs CLS