Talk:Marsupial mole

message: Michael Jay Williams 06:19, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think anyone has one. It is probably one of the hardest mammals to find in NSW. --liquidGhoul 06:30, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs a photo, please. 

message: Out of the 270=/-  native languages still arround, which one is it? please be specific! Enlil Ninlil 03:46, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: itjaritjari

message: This section really doesn't talk about the species, but about the family/order. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:04, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it should be merged, as it is based on the order and genus but not the species. Enlil Ninlil (talk) 11:28, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge from Southern Marsupial Mole's taxonomy section 

message: Not living in tunnels like Talpidae moles, the reader is not told how they manage to breathe.  We assume perhaps that they take a breath at the surface and then hold it as they dive beneath.  They couldn't get air in such collapsing soils without inhaling sand, so maybe they do like a dolphin or seal swimming throught the soil.  We need to find the answer to this and put it in the article.  Readers want to know if they have no tunnel, do they have to come up for air, or could they possibly do what Talpidae moles cannot: breathe underground without burrows?  Chrisrus (talk) 20:14, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know much about them myself, and I think very little research has been done on them, but perhaps the sand is so porous that they can breathe through it. Ucucha 23:20, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That's possible, I suppose.  They must have some amazing nasal sand filters if that's the case.  I'm sorry to hear that there may be reason to believe that this information is not knowable as maybe no one has figured it out and published it.  However, it is another good idea for a thesis project brought to light by Wikipedia.  Chrisrus (talk) 03:07, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Respriation left mysterious! 

message: Conservation status?  Rarity?
How do they find their food?
Are they at risk from 4WDs?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.31.234.132 (talk) 12:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Issues

message: Hello, I have tried to update the Notoryctes page to reflect the overwhelming evidence that this animal is indeed a marsupial mammal, within the Australidelphia. My edits include many citations in the peer-reviewed literature to this effect, and no peer-reviewed publication with a good sample of DNA and/or morphology supports the placement of Notoryctes outside of crown Theria, as the dryolestoid hypothesis would require. Unfortunately, within a few minutes of saving my edits, user Anaxial reverted to the previous page with its incorrect implications that there is uncertainty about the crown-marsupial status of Notoryctes. Anaxial pasted below are some peer-reviewed publications supporting the crown marsupial status of Notoryctes. Unless you think all dryolestoids are marsupials (I presume you do not), please help me to update the wikipedia page to accurately reflect the facts as reported in the peer-reviewed literature. 
Sincerely, Robert Asher
Mitchell KJ, Pratt RC, Watson LN, Gibb GC, Llamas B, Kasper M, Edson J, Hopwood B, Male D, Armstrong KN, Meyer M. Molecular phylogeny, biogeography, and habitat preference evolution of marsupials. Molecular biology and evolution. 2014 Sep 1;31(9):2322-30.
https://academic.oup.com/mbe/article/31/9/2322/2925703/Molecular-Phylogeny-Biogeography-and-Habitat
Horovitz I, Sánchez-Villagra MR. A morphological analysis of marsupial mammal higher‐level phylogenetic relationships. Cladistics. 2003 Jun 1;19(3):181-212.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1096-0031.2003.tb00363.x/abstract
Asher RJ, Horovitz I, Sánchez-Villagra MR. 2004. First Combined Cladistic Analysis of Marsupial Mammal Interrelationships. Molecular Phylogenetics and Evolution 33: 240-250.
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1055790304001666
Phillips MJ, McLenachan PA, Down C, Gibb GC, Penny D. Combined mitochondrial and nuclear DNA sequences resolve the interrelations of the major Australasian marsupial radiations. Systematic Biology. 2006 Feb 1;55(1):122-37.
https://academic.oup.com/sysbio/article/55/1/122/2842888/Combined-Mitochondrial-and-Nuclear-DNA-Sequences
Kjer KM, Honeycutt RL. Site specific rates of mitochondrial genomes and the phylogeny of eutheria. BMC Evolutionary Biology. 2007 Jan 25;7(1):8. https://bmcevolbiol.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/1471-2148-7-8
Beck RM, Godthelp H, Weisbecker V, Archer M, Hand SJ. Australia's oldest marsupial fossils and their biogeographical implications. PLos one. 2008 Mar 26;3(3):e1858.
http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0001858
Nilsson MA, Churakov G, Sommer M, Van Tran N, Zemann A, Brosius J, Schmitz J. Tracking marsupial evolution using archaic genomic retroposon insertions. PLoS Biol. 2010 Jul 27;8(7):e1000436.
http://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.1000436
Meredith RW, Janečka JE, Gatesy J, Ryder OA, Fisher CA, Teeling EC, Goodbla A, Eizirik E, Simão TL, Stadler T, Rabosky DL. Impacts of the Cretaceous Terrestrial Revolution and KPg extinction on mammal diversification. Science. 2011 Oct 28;334(6055):521-4.
http://science.sciencemag.org/content/334/6055/521
Archer M, Beck R, Gott M, Hand S, Godthelp H, Black K. Australia's first fossil marsupial mole (Notoryctemorphia) resolves controversies about their evolution and palaeoenvironmental origins. Proceedings of the Royal Society of London B: Biological Sciences. 2011 May 22;278(1711):1498-506.
http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/278/1711/1498.short
O’Meara RN, Thompson RS. Were there Miocene meridiolestidans? Assessing the phylogenetic placement of Necrolestes patagonensis and the presence of a 40 million year meridiolestidan ghost lineage. Journal of Mammalian Evolution. 2014 Sep 1;21(3):271-84.
http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10914-013-9252-3
Beck RM, Warburton NM, Archer MI, Hand SJ, Aplin KP. Going underground: postcranial morphology of the early Miocene marsupial mole Naraboryctes philcreaseri and the evolution of fossoriality in notoryctemorphians. Memoirs of Museum Victoria. 2016;74:151-71.
http://researchrepository.murdoch.edu.au/id/eprint/32829/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asherobert (talk • contribs) 20:23, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Disagreement on affinities to dryolestoids

message: I have combined text from the previous Notoryctes page favored by Anaxial with improvements that I have identified. Specifically, evidence from the peer-reviewed literature shows that Notoryctes is within Marsupialia. It is not a dryolestoid; it has a variable but marsupial-like dental formula; it is not the only fossorial mammal to fuse neck vertebrae; the Vaughan et al. mammalogy textbook is good but insufficient to determine the distribution of cloacae (unified urogenital tracts) among mammals. I have also deleted the unsourced quotation from "a 1989 review of the early literature" and added reference & link to Gregory (1910) and Asher et al. (2007) who note that epipubic bones are present but small.
Sincerely, Robert Asher
:Looks good to me. Anaxial (talk) 22:23, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Substantial edits to reflect peer-reviewed literature

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Southern marsupial mole which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 18:30, 18 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress