Talk:Ranulph Fiennes

message: The article said Fiennes was knighted in 1993, but every cite I've found says he was awarded an OBE then (which despite what  says ain't the same thing at all) (so I've been bold and changed it).  I can't find any mention of his receiving a knighthood, and this one page  (note: that page seems to have white text on a white background - select the invisible text to read it) says it's hereditary.  I've never heard of an hereditary knighthood, so I've asked Lord Emsworth if he knows whazzup.  -- Finlay McWalter |  Talk 03:16, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: There are almost 1000 individuals made OBEs each year; unfortunately, I know of no source that lists all living ones. But searching the internet indicates that numerous sources give 1993 as the date. I would not worry about corroborating this assertion. The letters "Bt" indicate that he is a Baronet. Baronetcies are hereditary titles. Though they carry with them the title "Sir," they are not strictly speaking knighthoods. Sir Ranulph Fiennes, 3rd Baronet was born in 1944, shortly after his father Lieutenant Sir Ranulph Twisleton-Wykham-Fiennes, 2nd Baronet was killed in World War II. Thus, Sir Ranulph Fiennes became a baronet at the moment of his birth. -- Emsworth 03:25, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: The London Gazette  is usually the best place to find honours. He was appointed an OBE in The Queen's Birthday Honours List of 1993 "For Human Endeavour and for charitable services". Proteus (Talk) 09:32, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent, thanks both.  I've integrated this into the article, and it makes the article a great deal better. -- Finlay McWalter |  Talk 11:06, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: Thanks to you all. I dimly remember being confused about this when bashing out the original article. Thanks to McW for making this article much better. Pcb21| Pete 11:57, 3 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Does anyone know where he is 3rd Baronet of? Or is he just a 3rd Baronet? -Grim-  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.182.10 (talk) 15:39, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He is the 3rd Baronet in the line of descent since the first Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes was made a baronet. Dabbler (talk) 15:49, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to this Sir Eustace Twisleton-Wykeham-Fiennes, 1st Baronet, he inherited the baronetage from his Grandfather, who died after his father. Surely it then means he's the 2nd Baronet, and it doesn't matter his father died before him.Petsco (talk) 16:31, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

text: It seems that there is some contradiction between his grandfather's article and the one on the Baronetage. It seems that he is the 2nd Baronet and his grandfather died after he was born, not before as suggested in the article. I will try and fix. Dabbler (talk) 17:07, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, sorry, I meant to ask is he a baronet of anywhere? Many lords with such titles have some sort of land attached to their name, and I would like to know. -Grim-
I have been checking around and it is pretty certain that he is the 3rd Baronet after all (of Banbury in Oxfordshire, if the truth be told but Baronets don't usually add the place name). So I have been doing a bit of fixing. Dabbler (talk) 18:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Knighthood 

message: The Charles Burton link is to Charles E. Burton, the Irish astronomer (d. 1882).  Should there be a disambiguation page and a link to a stub article on the correct Charles Burton? -- MarkBrooks 16:44, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes indeed, if this Charles Burton is really interesting enough to warrant an acticle.  If he isn't, maybe we should just unlink the name. -- Finlay McWalter |  Talk 17:41, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Britannica has an article about him , so we clearly should have one too (only bigger, better, and with topless photos too). -- Finlay McWalter |  Talk 17:43, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  NPOV topless photos only, please. Pcb21| Pete 08:57, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Charles Burton

message: The assertion that Sir Ranulph was the first person to visit both poles is not technically correct.  That honor belongs to Roald Amundsen (South Pole - 14 December, 1911; North Pole - May, 1926).  Fiennes was the first person to visit both poles by land transportation.  This claim should be modified in the article.  Also, Fiennes trek of 97 days in the Antarctic is not the longest journey in south Polar history, Amundsen's journey was 99 days in duration (19 October, 1911 - 25 January, 1912) and there may well have been others that were longer.
Given that there is no land at the North Pole the sentence
"He was the first man to visit both the north and south poles by land"
cannot be technically correct.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.105.187.197 (talk) 14:34, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  First person to both poles??? 

message: Isn't The Secret Hunters a novel?  The write up here makes Derek Jacobs sound like a real person. --JBellis 19:35, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Works of Fiction 

message: Does anyone know if he did actually blow up the dam in the Doctor Dollitle film set or not? The article suggest he laid the charges but didn't actually detonate them. This  seems to suggest he did in fact blow it up, but it mentions it too briefly really. I'm trying to find a reputable source that goes into a bit more detail about it. Norman22b (talk) 13:29, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Doctor Dollitle

message: I'm not sure, but surely his young son is now the heir to his baronetage? Barters (talk) 23:05, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that his son is actually a stepson, son of his second wife. I don't think he can inherit the baronetcy. Dabbler (talk) 00:37, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Heir...

message: I have a vague memory that Fiennes and one other were trapped on an iceberg for some time in 1982; as I recall, they had a radio which worked some of the time and that they'd found out that the UK was at war (the Falkland war was underway) but they couldn't find out who the UK was fighting - after some discussion, they assumed it was France! 
This sort of ties in with the Transglobe journey, except there were three of them - if someone can confirm he was trapped on the berg, it might be worth a mention - they apparently both expected not to survive. Apepper (talk) 21:37, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trapped on an iceberg? 

message: We can hardly justify a section called "Actor" when he has never done any acting, and the only role he was ever considered for, he was rejected.  --  JackofOz (talk) 22:02, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Actor

message: The introduction to this article says that he is also known as 'Ran' so shouldn't we redirect this name to this page? I'd do it but I can't make them without authorization and it'd be good to verify the nick name first. Tyciol (talk) 23:15, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Ran Fiennes]]

message: For no stated or obvious reasons, someone I cannot identify on the history recently tagged this article for autobiography, notability and spam. Fiennes is interesting, well-known and honoured in the UK, so I doubt that the tagger knows what they are doing; if so, perhaps they would kindly give some explanation here, please, to justify these tags? In the meanwhile I have simply removed them.
If simple removal and talkpage is not the appropriate Wikiprocedure for this situation, I apologise and would be happy to be pointed at the relevant policies, please! 
Jezza (talk) 16:08, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed autobiography, notability and spam Tags

message: Would it not be more appropriate to state his nationality as British? Most articles refer to him as either English or British as he came from an English family and grew up there.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.18.159.249 (talk) 04:56, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely, but the Scottish nationalists who go around and mark someone as Scottish if they've so much as been on a day-trip to Scotland would never allow such a thing. Nonetheless, I have made the change. Made a silly typo in the log, having just read the 'not to be confused with' line. D'oh. --Bloodloss  01:56, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationality 

message: Prior to being RTU'd from SAS, had Fiennes actually been badged? My memory of his autobiography was that he hadn't completed all his training and was later badged with Territiorial SAS. Can anyone confirm/correct me on this? (79.190.69.142 (talk) 19:37, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: SAS service

message: No mention is made of his army rank, I found an article which says he was the youngest captain in the British Army (http://www.eliteukforces.info/famous-special-forces/ranulph-fiennes.php) but this doesn't make clear whether this was before or after transfer to Hereford, nor is his SAS rank mentioned. Or his rank in the Omani army. Rank progression is normally mention in military biography.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.155.193.120 (talk) 16:56, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Army Rank 

message: Under "Adventurer", it states that the team "will be dropped off by ship on the Pacific coast of the continent", but the expedition web site (http://www.thecoldestjourney.org/home/expedition/map-of-route/) has a route map which shows them crossing from a point to the south of South Africa.
This needs to be verified.
  
Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.151.113.36 (talk) 11:26, 14 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trans-Antarctic Expedition 2013-14 

message: Impatient at the pain the dying fingertips caused, Fiennes cut them off himself with a fretsaw,[3] 
I have 2 wee issues with that part.  
1st, any body part that is so badly frostbitten that amputation is advised is already necrotized tissue.  It's not dying, it's already dead.  It was the end 3rd of all 4 fingers & thumbs that were beyond healing.  He did have frostbite on the remainder of his fingers that was not severe enough for amputation & therefore was not dead tissue.  Amputation was delayed so that the rest of his fingers could heal.  (This is what frostbite looks like: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sir-ranulph-fiennes-pictures-show-1742711  That pic is what Fiennes got in Antarctica; he may face 2 more amputations.)  It was not the tips that he cut off that caused him pain.  In speaking of his experience, Fiennes said that when he was engaged in self-amputation, if it began bleeding or causing him pain, he moved the blade up a bit further into the *dead zone*.  So the bits he cut off weren't painful & the bits he didn't weren't dying, but healing.  
2nd, that 3rd citation doesn't say what's in this article.  The sole reference it makes is *When he is not planning expeditions, scaling mountains or running races, Sir Ranulph can be found cutting the ends off his frostbitten fingers with the help of a vice and a fret saw, *.  That hardly translates to *impatient* etc.  It's also sort of an advertising gimmick page, basically; the watches it sells are supposed to be tough enough for extreme expeditions.  The 4th citation (the Guardian page) at least explains the self-amputation somewhat better.
I was told never to delete someone else's footnote, so I'm merely suggesting that #4 is better than #3 for referencing Fiennes's self-amputation, & that the above-quoted bit isn't mentioned in the source to which it links.
Also, the citation for the Royal British Legion Magazine goes to its home page, not an article on Fiennes - should it not go directly to whatever material they have on him, & if that's not possible due to their site coding, should not some other source be utlized? ScarletRibbons (talk) 06:53, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable Citation? 

message: Do we really need a list of other British explorers? Surely the Category at the bottom of the page provides access to that? Martinevans123 (talk) 19:21, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  See also 

message: First,
"According to the Guinness Book of World Records in 1984, he was the world's greatest living explorer".
This needs more clarification - it is Guinness' avowed policy to investigate and publish measurable records. How could they measure the "greatness" (meaning fame)? What does the book actually say about his achievements?
Second, this page states he "is a distant cousin of the British Royal Family".  It would be more believable if the relationship was demonstrated - through whom is he connected?Cloptonson (talk) 16:24, 27 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Questionable statements

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message: This week I had the great pleasure of attending a talk given by Sir Ranulph, but I was much saddened when he revealed at the outset that he was suffering from Parkinson's, and thought it necessary to apologise for not being able to hold his laser pointer steadily as a result.  It's a terrible affliction for mere mortals such as ourselves, but   for someone like Sir Ranulph it's an absolute tragedy - my heart goes out!  Does anyone have a reliable source to cite to add this sad news to the article?  Red Sunset 13:10, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's an article in The Daily Telegraph also reported here. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:14, 24 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parkinson's