Talk:History of Kerala

message: Raccoonvs (talk) 00:39, 9 June 2011 (UTC)

message: "Furthermore, a substantial proportion of Mappilas numbering between 3 and 4 million people have left Kerala to seek employment in the Middle East, especially in Saudi Arabia and United Arab Emirates. Remittances from these expatriate communities makes Kerala one of the main contributors of foreign exchange to Indian economy."
I have not been able to find any statistic to support this claim. The number of 3-4 million is questionable as i found a site mentioning 2.5 million diaspora from Kerala. 
Secondly, It is not only the Mappilass, but a lot of Keralites belonging to other religions also are working overseas and i dont think there is any reliable statistic about the expatriate population from Kerala segregated on the basis of religion.
Please provide link to support this claim.00:39, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
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message: I have a few issues with this section:
*Jewish people, fleeing persecution in their homeland, migrated to Kerala in the early centuries.
:We have got to clearly define what homeland is being referred to here and what the early centuries are.homeland is refereed to "Jerusalem " & early centuries to period of King Solomon --117.199.5.100 (talk) 07:40, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Arab merchants very likely had settlements in Kerala well before they became Muslim.Yes, their descents belong Syrian Christians along with Jewish migrants --117.199.5.100 (talk) 07:40, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

text: This is folklore. Besides we seem to be jumping back in time. This should be mentioned before the arrival of Islam to Kerala to retain chronological order.
*For a long time this was disputed. However in 2002 The British researcher William Dalrymple travelled across the Arabian Sea to Kerala in a boat similar to those mentioned in ancient Jewish and Roman texts and showed how the Nasrani-Jewish people had travelled to Kodungalloor. He followed the same course as mentioned in the Acts of Thomas, a copy of which survives in a monastery on Mount Sinai.The possibility of such a journey is not disputed. Pliny records Muziris(Kodungallur) as the most important sea-port on India's West Coast around the start of the Christian Era. Lionel Casson discusses the sailing patterns of ships via the Red Sea to Kodungallur in his 1988 analysis of Periplus of the Erythraean Sea.What is disputed is whether the Apostle really did land in Kerala and proselytize. We do have Syrian Malabar folklore that claim this. We also have some East Christian writings that claim the Apostle was buried on India's East Coast.
*A Christian-Jewish community was later established by a contingent of Jewish Nasranis led by Knai Thoma (Thomas of Cana) who arrived in 345. Cheraman Perumal, the then king of Malabar issued a proclamation giving land and privileges to the Knanaya Yehudeya(Jewish)-Nasranis on copper plates on a Saturday in March (Kumbham 29), 345. This was followed by another round of migration from Syria recorded in the Tharisappally records from around the 8th century.The growth of the Christian and Muslim communities is not captured by references to these specific migrations. I feel we will have to beef it up with accounts of settlements and trading-outposasasasts these merchants were allowed to build as well as their elevation in the social heirarchy in the various Keralite kingdoms. No,this migrants have influence only the coastal parts & they have some  social hierarchy but negligible,they  got social influence by past 500 years --Sinud3 (talk) 07:49, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding the section titled "Overseas contact" 

message: Since BC ("Before Christ") and AD ("Anno Domini", "In the year of the Lord") represent a Christian Point of View, i have replaced it with their secularized versions ie. BCE ("Before Common Era") and CE ("Common Era") in the entire length of this article keeping in tone with Wikipedia's NPOV policy. Before any reverts to this pls discuss in here . Thanks. Arjun (talk) 18:31, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
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message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :History of Kerala's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
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replies: text: Done. AshLey Msg 13:00, 12 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:History of Kerala]] 

message: This section mentions that nambudiris in Kerala are originally the brahmins from Karnataka. This is probably not true since there are several other stories about the origin of nambudiri brahmins. Sreedhara menon attributes their origin to people who fled from Godavari basin while some others suggests that nambudiris are brahmins who came from north India with the invaders. So it will be in best interest to delete this line altogether.
The article mentions establishment of 32 brahmin settlements in kerala towards the end of 8th C. This notion of 'Brahmin gramas' appears to be taken from the 17th C book 'Keralolpathi'. Most of the modern kerala historians rejects the authenticity of this book and hence the story of 32 'Brahmin gramas' is likely to be not true.
The last line seems to implicitly suggest that Malayalam language originated by Sanskritisation of Tamil under the influence of nambudiris. The origin of Malayalam language is a heavily debated topic. The earlier works like 'Keralapaaniniyam' concurs with this argument but later scholars differ. Parameswaran Nair, in his book on Malayalam Literature convincingly argues that Malayalam and Tamil are two daughter languages to the same primitive Dravidian language with Malayalam being more closer to the original. The influence of sanskrit was only minimal and hence Malayalam had an independent identity even before the so called process of Sanskritisation.
--James.puthenpurackal (talk) 14:17, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
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message: This line "Kerala was a major spice exporter as early as 3000 BCE, according to Sumerian records." uses the refers to p. 79 of "Striving for sustainability, environmental stress and democratic initiatives in Kerala". But if you check that page in that book, there it only just says, "Kerala's fabled spice trade--itself based in part in the rich micro-ecozone variability--goes back possibility to the Sumer (Babylonia)of 3000BC." And there is no reference or source mentioned for that. I don't this is sufficient evidence for the claim mentioned above.
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thread_title:  Spice Trade and Sumerian Records 

message: Chalk out the entire root of Britishers beginning from the coast of Kerala where they landed to and when they became rulers 103.252.25.67 (talk) 14:04, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: in the See also give link to Cheras.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chera_dynasty
give highlight link wherever it says Chera.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlightgselva (talk • contribs) 16:51, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
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