Talk:Touch (sport)

message: I have corrected a number of errors in the rules on this page, although there are still a number of poorly stated phrases that need correcting.  For example a "change of possession" is a technical term which doesn't merely mean that the team with possession of the ball changes, but that the team with the ball has to give it to the opposition who then have a role ball at count 0.  Intercepts and scores do not result in a "change of possession."  
The errors I have fixed are as follows;
It is not a penalty if the acting half takes to long to pick up the ball.  The referee just calls play on.
Acting half trying to score is also a change of possession.
Defenders need to go back the distance the referee says after a touch, which is not "5 meters" but "at least 5 meters."  Especially at high level games that distance is typically further than 5 meters - usually about 7.
It's also a penalty if a defending player does not retreat in a straight line.
Substitutes must enter the field in an onside position (if there is a sub box and it is offside, they must run along the side line until they are onside).
It's not true that placing the ball on the ground is the only way to score, a referee awards a penalty score if the defending team gives away a penalty over the scoring line.  For example, holding attackers after the half has crossed the line.  
I also noted that the 2 scores for girls in mixed games by-law that some local comps apparently use is not in the official rule book, and I've never heard of it, having played touch football at a national level for 11 years, and in 7 different local competitions in three states in Australia.  That whole paragraph should probably be deleted.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.133.39 (talk) 04:45, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Some errors in the rules

message: :Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
*  Don't Care - But if a change is made can't we just use Touch Rugby and redirect this age to Touch Rugby or visa versa?? --Rob 07:42, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Poll

message: Talk:Touch rugby
Goldensun 12:15, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Part of the discution about Touch football and Touch Rugby 

message: Before voting on the above. Why dont some people google for information. On to my 5th page and i've only found one touch rugby, the one played by most if not all of the world.
Google Touch rugby. Every page that talks about touch rugby talks about the FIT rules. Simple... why cant people see this is called touch rugby right around the world. The game is touch rugby. POds 02:29, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes that's very good. I'm not disputing the fact there may or may not be other touch rugby's. I was trying show people that the term "touch rugby" is used to refer to the game played under the FIT game more so then any other form. You've only just proved my point further by acknowledging that other forms of touch rugby are only mentioned  in greater frequencies when one makes additions to the search text "touch rugby". POds 15:39, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Google

message: I translate myself from the french rules so why they stay here if this aticle still named Touch football (rugby league) and no FIT. I really don't understand you!
Goldensun 10:08, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  All these rules are touch rugby rules 

message: Hello i'm a french player, in my country our sport is calling touch rugby.
I work on wikipedia did you know that encyclopedia. We have a problem to name our sport and of course to name the article: Touch rugby, touch football (rugby league).
The principal argument of the touch football (rugby league) is the sport created in australia and in australia you call that sport touch football
You can see the discution on:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Touch_rugby for touch rugby
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Touch_football_%28rugby_league%29 for touch football (rugby league)
Can you help us please(sorry for my english)
Quentin
Goldensun 18:31, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Email to the FIT

message: How about moving to touch rugby (FIT)? Just a thought..... Grinner 12:36, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: lol - did you read my discussion page? Or do great minds think a like? POds 15:09, 13 September 2005 (UTC)

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*Support if we can have a clear consensus no problem good idea Goldensun 12:54, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well the article explains now that some call it touch rugby (even though it's not one of the rugby variants) --Paul 16:33, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it probably is a duck. Althought I fully understand Grant and Paul's argument, that Goldensun (a person for whom English is a second language) is so confused by the name suggests that others will be as well. Are many Australians likely to be confused if the page name contains "Touch Rugby" as part of the name? -- PBS 17:23, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Phil, yes it will cause initial confusion upon being read, simply, NSW & QLD, may call it touch football, but Victoria, WA, SA, NT would call it touch rugby. Touch rugby is one of the most played team sports in Australian schools. It's promoted as touch rugby. If you added up all those people who played by the FIT games, in NZ, England, US, japan, Africa etc etc etc... I would have no doubt in my mind, it would be more then those that played it in NSW & QLD. POds 03:28, 17 September 2005 (UTC)

text: If there is "touch rugby" inside i will approuved if it's "touch (rugby league)" i approuved too Goldensun 11:42, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move from [[Touch football (rugby league)]] to [[Touch rugby (FIT)]]

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*Support if we can have a clear consensus no problem good idea Goldensun 12:54, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Poll

message: Touch was invented in north-eastern Australia, which still has most of the players and followers. "Football" in those parts means rugby league. "Rugby" in those parts means rugby union. So we need the "(rugby league)" in the name to distinguish it from rugby union-based touch games and from touch football (American). Grant65 (Talk) 13:26, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well the article explains now that some call it touch rugby (even though it's not one of the rugby variants) --Paul 16:33, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck then it probably is a duck. Althought I fully understand Grant and Paul's argument, that Goldensun (a person for whom English is a second language) is so confused by the name suggests that others will be as well. Are many Australians likely to be confused if the page name contains "Touch Rugby" as part of the name? -- PBS 17:23, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Phil, yes it will cause initial confusion upon being read, simply, NSW & QLD, may call it touch football, but Victoria, WA, SA, NT would call it touch rugby. Touch rugby is one of the most played team sports in Australian schools. It's promoted as touch rugby. If you added up all those people who played by the FIT games, in NZ, England, US, japan, Africa etc etc etc... I would have no doubt in my mind, it would be more then those that played it in NSW & QLD. POds 03:28, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If there is "touch rugby" inside i will approuved if it's "touch (rugby league)" i approuved too Goldensun 11:42, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. Ryan Norton T | @ | C 01:06, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Discision

message: Make suggestions here so we can all have a look at the various options. In the discussion area, list the numbers which you like, including your own. Ohh yer, add your suggestions to the bottom to maintain the order!
:POds 16:57, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I quite like Touch (FIT) myself. But I suspect that agreement will be nigh on impossible!Grinner 09:09, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the present name best ;-) Seriously, I think people objecting to it for different reasons, i.e. the RL people don't like the association with "rugby" and non-Australians find the reference to "football" confusing. Therefore, I doubt that we'll find a name which is agreeable to everyone (just as some people still think  football (soccer) should be moved to football). The meaning of "touch football (rugby league)" is clear to followers of touch who surf into the article after Googling. For people who are not aware of the various usages of the word football, or the distinction between rugby league and union, let the separate "touch rugby" (disambiguation) page be the start of their education and this page be the rest of it. Cheers. Grant65 (Talk) 11:04, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Can I just say that as an RL person I do feel that rugby should be part of the name. In general I am very against the way union is attempting to claim ownership of "rugby". Not that that helps us move this forward mind! Grinner 11:12, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: A title we can all agree on (make suggestions)

message: * I dont like the use of the world 'league' in the title. I think the use of "FIT" should be encouraged. I'm also warming to the use of the word 'Touch' in replacement of 'Touch rugby' as it seems to be the official name used by all organisations, even if they dont use it as such on websites when talking about the actual game. I like options 1, 4 & 5. POds 16:57, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I quite like Touch (FIT) myself. But I suspect that agreement will be nigh on impossible!Grinner 09:09, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the present name best ;-) Seriously, I think people objecting to it for different reasons, i.e. the RL people don't like the association with "rugby" and non-Australians find the reference to "football" confusing. Therefore, I doubt that we'll find a name which is agreeable to everyone (just as some people still think  football (soccer) should be moved to football). The meaning of "touch football (rugby league)" is clear to followers of touch who surf into the article after Googling. For people who are not aware of the various usages of the word football, or the distinction between rugby league and union, let the separate "touch rugby" (disambiguation) page be the start of their education and this page be the rest of it. Cheers. Grant65 (Talk) 11:04, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Can I just say that as an RL person I do feel that rugby should be part of the name. In general I am very against the way union is attempting to claim ownership of "rugby". Not that that helps us move this forward mind! Grinner 11:12, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Rather than having two discussions on this, as the merger templates point to two different talk pages,  please place comments on this suggestion under Talk:Touch rugby#Proposed merge with Touch football (rugby league) --PBS 16:40, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Touch rugby]] Sep 2006 

message: From my talk page:
:Hello my name is max and I am the President of Touch Rugby Italia, we got the assignment to create the Italian Federation. Our rivals (litrugby.it) did'not like at all and they now put their link into this page. As per the fact that we are the official body I ask you if what they did is correct. Tks  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.140.17.109 (talk) 11:24, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italy 

message: Okay I've just come across this discussion and it seems there is was no consensus on the Title in 2006. 
The current Touch football (rugby league) is extremely confusing. I have read all of the discussion and it seems there were no objections to Touch (sport). The FIT website calls the sport 'Touch'. Can we have a vote and majority decides on the title?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.220.40.86 (talk) 11:43, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think 'Touch (sport)' is a good title as it better reflects how the sport is known. Ozdaren (talk) 13:17, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: IP: Don't agree that the title is confusing. I think the current title is ok. LunarLander // talk // 14:29, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems odd to me that the title for the w/p article is not actually one anyone uses (it was made up for w/p). W/P should reflect the real world. Ozdaren (talk) 07:30, 12 January 2011 (UTC)

text: Majority decides isn't how Wikipedia works, and on not actually one anyone uses a lot of people in the real world call it Touch football hence the title touch football and the (rugby league) is there because there is more than one type of touch football --sss333 (talk) 02:18, 17 January 2011 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia works on getting a consensus from users based on Wikipedia's policies. There is a page Touch (disambiguation) just to let you know, also the official name in Australia is Touch Football (hence not colloquial) and the Federation of International Touch and was created in Australia and also run by Australia for the first 12 months. Also from the pictures on thier website the sport is played with a rugby league ball not with vikings' heads. --sss333 (talk) 01:49, 18 January 2011 (UTC)

text: I never said that the International federation called it Touch Football I said in Australia, as for history the game seemed to have developed in Australia with the first official match in Australia (source) and the official Australian assocation's history page only mentions rugby league in the history of the game where it came from (source). Even if it is the official name there are sports like hockey that can't have the official name as page title and have to be named field hockey.--sss333 (talk) 06:47, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Also in the Aticle you refer to, while it states some origins from rugby union, it clearly states that the current form came from the laws of rugby league.--sss333 (talk) 23:03, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: Because of reasons discussed above, I would like to request that this page be moved to Touch (sport). The official name of the sport, according to its governing body is, after all, Touch.
Also, the majority of previous discussions have been about the suggested title Touch Rugby. Only one brief discussion mentioned the title I am now suggesting, and not a formal request.
It's a title that would prove much less confusing than the current one, and is also the name recognised by the official governing body. If anyone can give reasons other than these that it should not be changed, please let them be known. --118.68.162.192 (talk) 12:43, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry, that was me, I forgot to sign in --Sauronjim (talk) 12:44, 5 September 2011 (UTC)

text: The discussion above (Title) is about a requested move to Touch (sport)--sss333 (talk) 22:43, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, I saw that. Hence the mention of "one brief discussion". The fact is that you were the only user who disagreed with the name change, but even so, only two users supported it. That's not many people. And don't give me the nonsense about Wikipedia not being a democracy. I know that. The simple fact is that it is the OFFICIAL name of this sport, what GOOD reason can be given to not use that name? --Sauronjim (talk) 14:37, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Touch (sport) doesn't provide clarity, there are vairous touch sports around and see Wikipedia:Article titles which is official Wikipedia policy that states you don't need to use the official name.--sss333 (talk) 09:38, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I can get that. "remember that the choice of title is not dependent on whether a name is "right" in a moral or political sense" seems to me to be more important than "Conciseness – Is the title concise or is it overly long?" --Sauronjim (talk) 15:11, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move to "Touch (sport)" 

message: Below list was removed from the article.  Please review Wikipedia:External links and work out what needs to happen to make the encyclopaedic article not appear to be one long directory listing. — billinghurst sDrewth 15:20, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paste in removed list 

message: The Touch football (rugby league) article states "...in 1978 when the Sydney Metropolitan Touch Football side played the touring Great Britain national rugby league team in a high-scoring match", is there a reference for this? Best Regards. DynamoDegsy (talk) 13:18, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Touch football  and the Great Britain national rugby league team 

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