Talk:Michael M. Crow

message: Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://president.asu.edu/about/michaelcrow. Infringing material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you.  Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 16:08, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: *Deleted (under the original title Michael Crow) as a blatant copyright violation from www.asu.edu/president/meetthepresident on 27 March 2006
*Recreated, again with copyvio, blanked and new non-copyvio version begun at Michael Crow/Temp on 21 May 2006 
*Article deleted and replaced with content of Michael Crow/Temp on 12 June 2006
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*Copyvio from president.asu.edu/about/michaelcrow re-added with this edit on 16 November 2012
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*Copyvio from president.asu.edu/about/michaelcrow re-added 4 January 2013 (twice), 11 January 2013 (twice), and 5 February 2013 by three anonymous IPs tracing back to ASU (149.169.164.12, 149.169.244.244, and 149.169.212.82).
*Copyvio removed 4 January 2013 (twice), 11 January 2013, 12 January 2013,  5 February 2013. All copyvio versions from 4 January to 5 February 2013 revision deleted on 5 February 2013  
- Voceditenore (talk) 09:51, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyvio history for this article

message: I have stubbed this article for several reasons. First and foremost, almost all of it was a blatant violation of Wikipedia's copyright policies — virtually verbatim from president.asu.edu/about/michaelcrow. Even if it had been released under a free license, its tone was wildly unencyclopedic "PR-speak" and basically an advertisement for the university. Secondly, there are BLP concerns with the addition of unsourced rumours and coat-racking. Thirdly, the material about Obama speaking at the commencement is pertinent to the university's article not to Crow's.
Editors are welcome to build this article back up but you must do so in your own words and write in a neutral, non-promotional, encyclopedic tone. This is an encyclopedia article and a biography, not the university's brochure nor a soapbox for factions who are critical of him and the university. A balanced article can and should include criticism, provided it is not given undue weight and is meticulously sourced to reliable independent publications, and no, cfraa.org is not one of them. I've checked the edit history of this article, which seems to be a series of subtle edit wars between those determined to use it for the university's PR and those who are determined to use it to express their grievances about the university in general, but are using this biography to do it, i.e. coatracking. Neither of these approaches is appropriate or acceptable. Voceditenore (talk) 07:55, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article stubbed 

message: I have just finished restoring this talk page and archiving the pre-2011 discussions to Talk:Michael M. Crow/Archive 1. Over the years, multiple messages have been deleted, signatures deleted, messages moved etc. The most recent occurrence was today. . Talk pages are meant to be a complete record of the discussions. Deleting or editing legitimate comments is considered bad practice, and especially removing or altering the messages of other editors. See WP:Talk for an explanation of how to conduct yourselves on article talk pages and the rare circumstances when it may be legitimate to delete or refactor a comment, e.g. defamation, copyright violation, a severe personal attack on another editor, or off-topic chat/nonsense. The majority of the illegitimate comment deletions were done by IPs tracing to Arizona State University. If you keep this up, you are liable to find yourselves blocked. So cut it out. Note also:
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Voceditenore (talk) 18:44, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please observe talk page guidelines! 

message: I have removed this section which an anonymous IP has repeatedly ,  tried to add:
#This is not a "controversy" pertaining to Crow, and it is an unsubstantiated distortion. It is a controversy (if at all) pertaining to Theresa Cameron. Crow sent the letter of dismissal to her on the recommendation of the (then) Dean, Wellington Reiter. In the Phoenix Magazine report of the court case against ASU (note that it was not a lawsuit against Crow), Cameron is reported as admitting she could not personally point to any evidence that showed Crow had discriminated against her. "The jury deliberated and dismissed Cameron’s claims. Allegations of gender discrimination, disability discrimination and denial of due process were also dismissed by the court earlier in the trial process.". This reference  from Phoenix Magazine in no way characterises this as a "controversy". Additionally, there is no evidence of enduring, widespread, and significant press coverage of this event to justify its inclusion here. Instead what we have is a brief article in a local magazine factually reporting that that the court case was dismissed by the jury and an opinion post in a blog with 3 comments. See also my comments above concerning "controversy" sections.
#There are no reliable sourced supporting the claim  "Dr. Cameron was seen by many members of the academic community as arbitrary, unfair, and discriminatory". The only reference given is the opinion of one person in a blog posting who claimed her dismissal was unfair. Please read WP:Reliable sources, particularly as they pertain to the Biographies of Living persons.
#Neither of the two sources supports any of the following claims: 
::"Copying material onto syllabi, however, is widely regarded as common practice among professors" 
::"Dr. Cameron's firing is the only known case of a tenured faculty member being fired for using another instructor's syllabus without attribution."
::"The move to fire Dr. Cameron was strongly opposed by the University Faculty Senate." 
Voceditenore (talk) 14:19, 3 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: "Controversy" section re [[Theresa Cameron]]

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