Talk:List of colleges and universities in metropolitan Boston

message: I changed a few of the (city/town) locations given to agree with the location given on the college Websites and/or the Wikipeidia page for the school. Helpful to have official location when searching other sources for information. Lavishluau (talk) 03:46, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Various list improvements

message: If this list is to mean all colleges and universities in the Metropolitan Statistical Area of Boston, we must include all of them down to Providence, Rhode Island, and up to southern New Hampshire. I originally opted for a "Metro-Boston" approach, limiting the list to the City of Boston and adjacent cities and towns, or at least places connected via the T. Can we get some input and clarification on this? I added Brown University since someone else added Gordon College and no one objected, but I'm more than willing to start culling the list for colleges that are well outside the Red Line, Green Line, Blue and Orange Lines, &c. --Aepoutre (talk) 20:37, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that colleges in Providence or Worcester should be included, as they are clearly discrete urban areas.  I would limit the colleges included to those inside the 128, or perhaps the 495.  Antony-22 (talk) 04:42, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Metropolitan Statistical Area is gigantic and contrived area, generated by a non-local organization. The MSA is not used as a colloquial basis for the Boston metropolitan area. Worcester MA and Providence RI are well beyond the bounds of the Massachusetts state route 128 highway, which is the region is generally considered the  metropolitan Boston area.  Any institutions outside of the territory bounded by Massachusetts state route 128 are just not even close to being a neighboring municipality to the core municipalities: Boston, Brookline, Cambridge, Medford, Newton, Quincy, Somerville. Worcester institutions are listed on an entire state of Massachusetts list. -- Yellowdesk (talk) 22:26, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Since people keep insisting that we include colleges ouside the 128, should we create a third section for those schools?  Antony-22 (talk) 05:49, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

text: That statement is erroneous. While the "Greater Boston Area" might even include southern New Hampshire and Providence, Rhode Island, it has never included Worcester, Massachusetts, which has its own metropolitan area. It also has a Worcester Consortium for Worcester-area schools. Furthermore, if you see Talk:List of colleges and universities in metropolitan Boston, you'll notice that the template is limited to institutions in MetroBoston, inside the MA-128/US-1 loop. Including everything beyond that would make it unwieldy. Please understand, in case you come from any particular non-NPOV, that occlusion from the template is not a reflection on a college's quality or reputation. --Aepoutre (talk) 02:46, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion 

message: Some theological seminaries are part of larger institutions: e.g, Harvard Divinity School, BU School of Theology, Boston College School of Theology and Ministry (formerly the independent Weston Jesuit School of Theology).   These are not being listed under "Bible colleges and theological seminaries" for this reason.    I suggest that for the sake of clarity the header be changed: for example, to "Bible colleges and independent theological seminaries" or "Bible colleges and theological seminaries not listed above". Chonak (talk) 18:19, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The schools are part of universities. Neither this list nor the template should include every single school at every single university in addition to every single school that is not part of a university. For each attempt in the past to add a school or college that is part of a university, the change has been reverted for the sake of preventing it from becoming unwieldy, because Wikipedia is not a directory, and because such a school or college is already represented by the university to which it belongs -- one entry, not multiple entries, for a university. I agree with the logic used in the past, for the most part. If you want to write an article on the Weston Jesuit School of Theology from before it became part of Boston College, then I'd certainly welcome that. I think doing so would further the cause of establishing substantive Wikipedia coverage. I wouldn't say that adding every single college or school that is part of an American university does anything but make for a long list, and that's not very substantive. --Aepoutre (talk) 19:14, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

text: I see there is already a link for the school of theology. Regardless, you are welcome to research the topic and add to the history, since its former independence would be of interest. I also see that BC has a navbox of its own for each of its constituent schools. --Aepoutre (talk) 19:19, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theological schools 

message: Longy School of Music offers only graduate degrees; its undergrad program is a degree program through Emerson College.  I suggest moving it to the list of "Seminaries and graduate schools".  Chonak (talk) 23:24, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. I also undid my Radcliffe add. --Aepoutre (talk) 00:51, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move Longy to graduate schools? 

message: The School of the Museum of Fine Arts may be a special case.   All its degree programs, undergraduate and graduate, appear to be in partnership with Tufts and Northeastern.   Does the School award degrees?   Is it a college?   It is recognized by the USDoE as an institution of higher education.   Chonak (talk) 05:01, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  School of the MFA 

message: The sort by Enrollment button improperly sorts the table.  I'm new and have no idea how to work with tables, else I would fix it myself. Zklink (talk) 05:54, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table Broken 

message: There is a discrepancy of 5000 students between the table data and the Harvard report.  Do the numbers include students in the non-degree granting Harvard Extension School?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.150.1.76 (talk) 01:51, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth, the Extension School does offer degree programs. --Chonak (talk) 13:00, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enrollment Data 

message: I see both categories are being used. Are they actually differentiated, or just being used interchangeably? I was told at my undergrad school that we were awarded a baccalaureate degree rather than a bachelor's because it required a thesis or original research rather than just four years of study. I don't know whether this is universal or just propaganda my school liked to push. Should we just change all of them to one term or the other?  Triangular (talk) 01:49, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bachelor vs. Baccalaureate 

message: Should Gordon-Conwell be removed? The main campus is in the suburbs outside of 128. Also, the Boston satellite campus is in Roxbury, but that is a neighborhood of Boston (I live here). All of the other institutions are listed as their city/town, not their neighborhood.  Triangular (talk) 01:50, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:   Gordon–Conwell Theological Seminary  

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I came to Wikipedia to see an authoritative list of colleges in the Boston area.  As usual I give up and must look elsewhere:
1. I count 45 entries in the table.  The only quantity I see approaching it in your introductory text is 44.  Either don't contradict yourself or don't publish.
2.  For me, a mere man on the street, the data in column Classification are conflated.  For some entries you state the degree level; for others you state what I take to mean merely the type of school.  Take Boston University and Brandeis.  All you say is that they are research.  Meaning their certificates don't fall in the traditional associate-bachelors-masters-doctorate spectrum?  Somehow, I doubt it.
Begging the ancillary Q:  Which colleges grant doctorates?  You don't say.  Does, say, research and special focus imply that?  If so, say so explicitly in the explanatory text.  Or, perhaps better, add a new column, Degree level, and for every school state that datum.  Reserving the 
Classification column for your research and special focus values.  For other schools, state general, or whatever term is appropriate.
3.  In the text you name Episcopal Divinity School. Where is that institution in the table?
4a.  Your sister list, the Wiki list of colleges in Mass., says Labouré College is in Boston.  Your table, and the article on the college, say Milton.  Sounds like you're right, but whichever is wrong, fix it/them.
4b.  In the other table, Mass. College of Pharmacy and Health Sciences is out of αβ order.  Fix those incompetents.
Yours for a more, er, educated America.
Jimlue (talk) 05:07, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Inscrutable