Talk:Hawaiian Poi Dog

message: I know that both "Hawaiian" and "Hawai'ian" are proper. Both are used in this article. However, it is proper form to stick with just one. Which one should be used?
:Only "Hawaiian" is proper. "Hawai'ian" is not used. Viriditas (talk) 04:08, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hawaiian vs Hawai'ian 

message: I know that dogs were a part of Hawaiian diets, many years ago.... but is this article really appropriate in this category?  The animal is extinct, there is no information about actually EATING them on the page (just the statement that they were raised as food animals), and they are not currently eaten in Hawaii...  Just a thought. :)  ColbyWolf (talk) 02:13, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hawaiian Cuisine 

message: I mean, is there another Poi Dog?  There is only one Poi Dog, which is normally, as far as I can tell, simply called "Poi Dog", not "Hawaiian Poi Dog".  Why not move this article to simply "Poi Dog"? Chrisrus (talk) 16:51, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Could be like "German Shepard Dog"...  just the official 'breed' name, as it were.  Though I suppose there are other 'shepard' breeds...  Who knows why anyone names anything anything?  But "Hawaiian Poi Dog" does turn up google results, while 'poi dog' is a little more varied in the information it returns.  Guess someone decided "this is what this shall be called."  Plus, more anecdotally, my first dog was named 'Poi Boy' because I was told that a poi dog was, basically, a mixed breed, mutt-type.  So, Poi Dog might be misunderstood as 'mixed breed dog,' while adding 'Hawaiian' helps identifying it as a species, via the name pattern.  (ie, German Shepard Dog, American Bull Dog, Bernese Mountain Dog etc) ColbyWolf (talk) 07:01, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to note, unlike the various shepherd, bulldog, and mountain dog breeds there is only one 'Poi Dog', which is the Hawaiian Poi Dog. There is also only one Elkhound (the Norwegian Elkhound) and there are a few other breeds with similar naming issues. "Hawaiian Poi Dog" was the correct name. EclecticGeek (talk) 20:44, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why "Hawaiian"? 

message: So, the problem with finding an authentic image of a poi dog is that by the time people started depicting dogs in drawings, paintings and photographs is that almost none of them claimed they were of the poi dog (leaving historians or us to assume base on their appearance) and by this time Western dogs have already been introduced by explorers to the islands and interbred with the native dogs. Petroglyphs are probably the best depictions of this species. Here are the some suspected poi dogs from ::Commons:Category:Dogs of Hawaii:
File:Hawaiian natives wearing kihei, with animals, sketch by Louis Choris.jpg|Should be the one used if any because of the sources backing it—Hawaiian natives wearing kihei, with animals, manuscript sketch by Louis Choris. The dog in the center has been claimed as the only extant image of a Hawaiian Poi Dog by Margaret Titcomb. "The small dog, middle rear, may have had more Hawaiian than foreign blood
File:Vue de Honolulu. lles Sandwich, c. 1836, color print (crop of dog).jpg|Listed by Katherine Luomala but not directly stated as a poi dog, although she does say it has some of the characteristics look 
File:Tikhanov - Young Girl of the Sandwich Islands (1818).jpg|Used in Titcomb article, although she only claimed it was a pet dog and never associated with a poi dog. Claimed by this blog (not reliable)
*Came across this by accident, and having worked quite a bit with rarely depicted recently extinct animals myself, I'd say we should only show images that have specifically been identified as a given animal in the published literature. Identifying them ourselves would be WP:original research, and quite possibly erroneous. However, it is possible to identify animals in old pictures that haven't been noted in the literature before (I've found a couple of extinct birds myself), but they still can't be used if no sources refer to them. FunkMonk (talk) 09:04, 15 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Second look

message: I haven't seen this repeated in published sources yet but it is still troubling that this source which is possibly rooted in a Facebook post by the Maui Historical Society. This claims that Liliuokalani's pet dog in 1917 was a poi dog which is not found in any contemporary account from the time of Liliuokalani's death. It also claims that Kamehameha I's pet dog Boss (who High Chief Boki was named for) was a white poi dog.--KAVEBEAR (talk) 21:19, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Royal pets