Talk:Emperor (band)

message: you might as well stop because im not vandalising the page as you are trying to make it look like. i once again made an addition because again you re-did the part where it says "samoth went along with members of mayhem to burn down the ancient churches of norway". first of all, as ive clearly stated and have sources from, no members of mayhem were involved in the church burnings. you also put down a link to a source which does not even note that members of mayhem were involved in church burnings, all it proves is that EURONYMOUS (not members) of mayhem was involved in a pile of bible burnings at a nearby ski jump. i also noted that they were at a point signed to deathlike silence productions, which was also deleted. once again, im not vandalising and im clearly just trying to put down here that they were signed to that label, despite the fact that you may think they werent just because they released no material. if you want proof of this, i cannot find an internet source, but an even more reliable source, because it is listed on an emperor cd itself with a poster containing small advertisements and pictures of the band. on one of the advertisements it says to "WATCH OUT FOR THE NEW LP ON DEATHLIKE SILENCE PRODUCTIONS".  <<<there is ur proof, u dont think thats good enough either? go and buy the new box version of Wrath of the Tyrant, and you can see for yourself. also, if you have a problem with my additions to this page or any others, leave a note on the discussion page. Okram 09 (talk) 01:56, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  whoever keeps deleting my additions.. 

message: the following quote above will be deleted in every part of the emperor page and every page that its on the emperor band members. this quote is so stupid and its becoming annoying. no "members of mayhem" were even involved in the church burnings, let alone some stupid claim that they went to "burn bibles at a nearby ski jump". this page is supposed to be about the band emperor and their music, not some stupid black metal myths. if any of yous need proof that no mayhem members were in the church burnings, look at an interview with necrobutcher, where he even states that it was a stupid thing to do.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Okram 09 (talk • contribs) 08:05, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Members of Mayhem" 

message: Regarding album titles, I personally feel that all words should be capitalized, whether they are conjuctions or not.  It seems inconsistent (even though it is traditional) to have a mixture of upper and lower case words, and inconsistency is the enemy.  This is perhaps a moot point, but I think it ought to be defined one way or another as to which should be used.  I think we ought to capitalize all words in a title, whether it is an album, a book, or whatever else. Nyght 23:05, May 28, 2004 (UTC)
: Wikipedia naming convention is that "Titles of books, films and other works are also capitalized, except for minor words, e.g. A New Kind of Science, Ghost in the Shell.", which also as far as I know is the most common practice Skrim 18:32, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Album Capitalization

message: Melodic black metal AND symphonic black metal are the two genres from the first emperor album, in the nightside eclipse. only symphonic black metal is mentioned and i think melodic black metal should be as much credited as that as it is symphonic black metal. if you look at the melodic black metal page, it states certain characteristics which all appear on in the nightside eclipse album. e.g. occasional clean vocals,atmospheric (NOT SYMPHONIC OR ORCHESTRATIONAL) sounds, not uncommon guitar solos. its all there. plus, if you didnt notice, EMPEROR IS LISTED ON THE NOTABLE MELODIC BLACK METAL BANDS PART of that page! because there is not a "reliable" source for them being melodic black metal, it is as much unreliable as symphonic black metal could be. the only source is from metal-archives. which is a byist website anyway. whoever keeps changing it and constantly getting rid of melodic black metal being listed on the page and thinking that its pure vandalism of the page, at least explain why you think its not right to be there. and ask many other people. look at all the comments! everyone is saying that theyr melodic black metal. so whoever wants to get rid of the edit again, have the decency to reply to this message!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Okram 09 (talk • contribs) 06:43, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Melodic Black Metal and Symphonic black metal 

message: I'm confused...I don't see how "extreme symphonic metal" is anything but a broader term that encompasses "symphonic black metal".  Do we really need to say "symphonic black metal" AND "extreme symphonic metal" on the genre listings? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by PearlTheater (talk • contribs) 18:21, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Look, 'extreme symphonic metal' or 'symphonic extreme metal' or whatever are not real genres. They don't even have Wikipedia pages, and if you created them, I imagine they'd end up as AfD fodder pretty swiftly. Therefore there is no point whatsoever listing such illusory genres within the infobox when they're just going to get re-directed elsewhere. Blackmetalbaz (talk) 01:54, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extreme symphonic metal 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:AnthemsToTheWelkinAtDusk.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Prometheusthedescipleoffire&demise.JPG

message: What about the Call From the Grave Rehearsal release?  I don't see that in the discography section... 76.105.40.151 21:37, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What about?

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Inthenightsideeclipseemperor.jpg

message: I see that In the Nightside Eclipse is noted as released under Roadrunner Records.  To my knowledge Emperor has had no affiliation with Roadrunner and I am unable to find sources that prove me wrong.  The band's official website cites the album being released under Candlelight Records and re-released by Candlelight and Century Media.  Emperor was with Candlelight Records consistently for their primary studio releases, and seeing as how I can find no evidence of a connection with Roadrunner, citing it as such seems amiss.--Junked up (talk) 20:05, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not even sure Roadrunner was around when Nightside was released... Yeah, it sounds unrealistic. Without any sources, change it. ≈ The Haunted Angel 21:18, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Roadrunner certainly existed then (they've been around since at least the mid-80's i nfact) but without having any copies on hand, emperorhorde.com indicates that it's a Candlelight release and that's good enough for me. Thee darcy (talk) 19:34, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, my mistake then; although I wouldn't imagine Roadrunner signing a black metal band - at least not today's Roadrunner. I think the closest they get today is Cradle. ≈ The Haunted Angel 19:43, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Record Label

message: It appears that using the album covers on this page has been deemed unacceptable, so I'm going to format the album section like the other releases. It's too bad but it'll look nicer this way. I guess we'll just have to learn to be happy with the more detailed info appearing on the album pages. Thee darcy (talk) 17:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Release formatting

message: Hoping to get some support here- every couple of months a whole bunch of BS gets added to the ItNE page about how the album was recorded at Samoth's home studio in Tromso, it was produced by Samoth, it was released on Roadrunner (see "Record Label" above), Ihsahn and Samoth were the only musicians who played on it, and so on... just keep an eye out for it if you can. I'm trying to stay on top of it but it's always anon IP users who seem unwilling to provide any source on the info their providing- info that contradicts the albumliner notes & the band website, but still, it'd be nice to see where this stuff is coming from.
Anyway. Just keep an eye out. Thee darcy (talk) 16:41, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: ItNE credits

message: In Det svarte alvor, Jon Jarle Haugen said that Emperor received some scholarship in 1991, and I also heard about some band contest Emperor participated in; unfortunately, I don’t know more about this. Who does? By the way, Haugen also said that Emperor’s fascination with Satanism wasn’t that special since Edvard Grieg wrote Til en hunndjevel, Klaus Egge wrote so-called Devil music and Faust also found his way into operas. --217/83 18:42, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scholarship in or band contest around 1991? 

message: I can understand this edit, but this is not just opinion, at least not for Wrath of the Tyrant and In the Nightside Eclipse. There may be more bands copying Burzum and Darkthrone, but Emperor’s early work is highly influential. --217/83 18:36, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: My suggestion is phrase it along the lines as "has been regarded as highly influential" with sources, preferably primary sources from bands (particularly prominent bands) themselves. Dark Prime (talk) 21:12, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that and also some journalists since some users might not accept the edits otherwise. --217/83 19:49, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  “highly influential” 

message: Could we have a timeline showing major releases and members at the time (like in the pages Mayhem, Metallica and Slayer)? That is, if someone would be so kind...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vargtimmen (talk • contribs) 22:20, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline 

message: i added Technical Black Metal to genres,because the Progressive style of their last album.http://www.allmusic.com/album/prometheus-the-discipline-of-fire-demise-mw0000014689  — Preceding unsigned comment added by GREYBOYY (talk • contribs) 14:31, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Progressive Metal 

message: Hi,
Why is the material on arson called a controversy? Doesn't that require some, well, controversy?
And why is it included at all? The ref is some weird fanblog, generally not RS and absolutely not for BLP material.
T 85.166.162.8 (talk) 22:12, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Controversy"? 

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