Talk:Teachers College, Columbia University

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Tcollege.jpg

message: As if the institution's name was not enough. I hope this helps resolve this debate "Two affiliated institutions – Barnard College and Teachers College – are also Faculties of the University" --Viscountrapier (talk) 23:27, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Teachers College, Columbia University is a part of Columbia University

message: I adjusted Teachers College to redirect to this article, and inserted a hatnote so people looking for generic teachers colleges will go to the right place. (Teachers' College still redirects to Normal school.) Ylee (talk) 18:29, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect adjusted, hatnote added

message: These edit keeps getting reverted due needing stronger citations. Many of these citations are already linked to the faculty senate documents, university handbook, and official university and/or constituent college websites to Columbia. Please feel free to add in further supporting evidence so that this does not get rejected again. We believe that it is important to add these details to clarify any incoming students about complex relationship between Teachers College and Columbia. Having accurate and clear internet resources for these students is very important. As suggested by another wiki administrator, small bits of this edit will be added at a time to the end of the "Relationship with Columbia University" section. 
Although Teachers College serves as Columbia University's graduate and professional school of education by virtue of its designation as the University's Faculty of Education, the College holds its own corporate status separate from Columbia University, including an independent administrative structure, board of trustees and endowment.http://www.columbia.edu/cu/vpaa/handbook/organization.htmlhttp://www.tc.columbia.edu/human-development/faqs/ In practice, Teachers College shares many institutional resources with Columbia University, including the libraries, health service systems and the University's recreational center. The Columbia University Senate includes faculty and student representatives from Teachers College who serve two-year terms; all senators are accorded full voting privileges regarding matters impacting the entire University.http://senate.columbia.edu/elections/elections_packet_2017.pdfhttp://senate.columbia.edu/topbar_pages/elections.html 
Degrees conferred to students are conferred by the Board of Trustees from both Teachers College and Columbia. The Columbia University degree is the only degree given to all Teachers College students (Teachers College does not grant its own degrees independently).http://www.columbia.edu/cu/vpaa/handbook/organization.htmlhttps://gsas.columbia.edu/degree-programs/phd-programs/education Ultimately, the degree is conferred by the Columbia University president at the University commencement.http://www.tc.columbia.edu/registrar/pages/degree-information/degree-requirements/
Teachers College graduates are given the rights to attend the Columbia Alumni Association events and are eligible for nomination of the alumni medal. https://alumni.columbia.edu/sites/dev.alumni.columbia.edu/files/list_of_past_alumni_medalists_1933_2016.pdfhttps://alumni.columbia.edu/get-involved/alumni-medal In short, Teachers College graduates are considered alumni of Columbia University. https://alumni.columbia.edu/alumni-directoryhttp://c250.columbia.edu/c250_celebrates/remarkable_columbians/thomas_kean.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pebblefire (talk • contribs) 01:28, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Can someone explain why TC is not on here? http://www.columbia.edu/cu/opir/abstract/opir_degrees_awarded_1.htm  --Boldstandard (talk) 03:13, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship with Columbia University 

message: Teachers College is clearly an affiliate school both confirmed on Columbia University and Teachers College websites. If you go to Columbia.edu and scroll to the bottom, you will see TC being designated as an affiliate school. "The relationship between anthropology and education, too, formally took root at Teachers College, dating back to the College’s affiliation with Columbia University in 1898"http://www.tc.columbia.edu/abouttc/timeline/. Furthermore, when we refer to GSAS or CC or SEAS or GS or Law or SIPA or Medicine or Mailman or Social Work, we DO NOT call these schools as affiliate schools. A table of Degree and Certificates Awarded prepared by the Office of Planning and Institutional Research DOES NOT list TC degrees www.columbia.edu/cu/opir/abstract/opir_degrees_awarded_1.htm. It is very sad that we have a desperate editor trying to hide this important fact and his only reasoning for deleting TC's correct designation as an affiliate school is because it is redundant. We are better than this and our readers deserve to know the truth. Therefore, I request a consensus to clarify this issue once and for all and resuscitate TC's correct designation as an affiliate school of Columbia.--Boldstandard (talk) 00:18, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Surprised to see another user from 2 years ago making the exact same arguments as mine. Anyway, the relationship with Columbia University section is just insecurity on display and is a disservice for Teachers College students. I will not edit it myself for now but something to consider.--HamiltonProject (talk) 06:42, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can show me the exact sources that you have researched, it might be helpful in actually restoring it. --HamiltonProject (talk) 17:39, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Teachers College

message: The Ivy League is an athletic conference. Columbia student athletes eligible to play their 5th year can continue their studies at Teachers College and play on Lion's sports teams. Thus TC is "Ivy League"... CUfiveo (talk) 16:57, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ivy League 

message: The current list of alumni is too large as of now. I propose to move the list to a new page (e.g. University name list of people; see List of Stanford University people). The list in this article could be trimmed to only keep highly notable alumni. Any thoughts? GreaterPonce665 (TALK)  16:52, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: A new article for Teachers College alumni can be created but it should not be mixed with Columbia University alumni (as an affiliate institution). --HamiltonProject (talk) 06:42, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alumni list 

message: Can someone help me out by providing citations for the following information contained in the article?
1. Alumna Mary Adelaide Nutting as the world's first professor of nursing
2. "The college also houses the programs in Anthropology (Anthropology and Education, and Applied Anthropology founded by Franz Boas)": provide citation that we are talking about the Teachers College program, not the Department of Anthropology within the Faculty of Arts & Sciences where Boas was a professor (this paragraph as a whole needs more sources)
3. Lifetime @columbia.edu e-mail addresses (not @tc.columbia.edu email addresses?)
--HamiltonProject (talk) 15:49, 3 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations needed 

message: If this info was accurate it should be in the body not the header, but it is not. TC should be classified under Columbia University not as a stand alone institution. TC is set up financially as independent but that is all. Columbia University is part of the legal name and all degrees granted are from Columbia University. Even as a stand alone university, which it is not it is an official Faculty of Columbia, it is still at the R2 level... but to avoid confusion about TC being a graduate school of Columbia and not an independent University, this inaccurate classification should be avoided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2603:9000:6504:12bd:34be:c769:c9c2:b100 (talk • contribs) 10:54, September 19, 2020 (UTC)
:We're not going to second guess the expert scholars who have classified this institution just because a Wikipedia editor disagrees with them. ElKevbo (talk) 15:02, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carnagie classification 

message: IP user has insisted that continued email privilege is somehow an encyclopedic content that warrants inclusion in the article. Must I really discuss this  nonsensical argument? I guess I will give them chance to give their reasoning. GreaterPonce665 (TALK)  04:15, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Since IP has no interest in discussion, I've reverted them and asked for WP:RPP. GreaterPonce665 (TALK)  15:26, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You never afforded the individual a reasonable opportunity to respond. It is my understanding they were banned without the ability to defend edits made. 70.177.73.208 (talk) 01:49, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

text: Is this a defining characteristics of TCCU somehow? Is this an important fact for someone to know about this institution? Could you please locate some similar examples on other university pages? or is this a requirement per WP:UNIGUIDE? To have a university email for life is a norm at almost every university and a nice example of undue content that doesn't belong on wikipedia. GreaterPonce665 (TALK)  19:47, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: TC email is a defining characteristic and an important fact. There is a lot of misinformation about TC email online and it should be clarified in the wiki. **ALL TEACHERS COLLEGE STUDENTS GET A @COLUMBIA.EDU EMAIL ADDRESS** this is made clear in the source that was cited. Many think TC is on a separate email system and that is not true. This fact is very important and needs to be mentioned. It is not clear except in the source that TC grads keep their @columbia.edu email address for life and it should be noted in wiki, if not just the fact TC get @columbia.edu email addresses. There is really no reason not to clarify this... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.196.151.50 (talk) 13:15, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  IP user Vandalism: Email privilege