Talk:North Wales Main Line

message: This line is part of the WCML! It should be merged immediately! Dewarw 18:23, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: WCML

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Moved (closed by non-admin page mover) BegbertBiggs (talk) 21:18, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: North Wales Coast Line →  – Change in name used in multiple sources, per WP:COMMONNAME which states . WP:NAMECHANGES can somehow also apply per the 2012 discussion above stating the infrastructure operator Network Rail uses the term if determined as the time of an (official) name change, and now many reliable secondary sources have since followed suit. Such use of the term "Main" over "Coast" was greatly apparent and increased following recent announcements, which overwhemingly used "Main" over the last 12 months. Google Trends also backs the change, although Google has issues per WP:WIAN, while there is not enough data for Ngrams and Google Search can be skewed by feeds and the game dlc.
Prefer "Main Line" as separate words for consistency with West Coast Main Line and South Wales Main Line. Because of the sheer use of "Main" in the recent announcements, I raise this RM to at least test the waters, but some still use "Coast" and this can be skewed on recent events, but it was overwhemingly for "Main". Plus "Coast Line" can be confused for "coastline", but that is minor.
Sources reviewed: Review period October 2022–October 2023   
Sources using current name North Wales Coast Line:
NWRAIL Railway Touring StatsWales TfW Blog Deeside.com Nation.Cymru Rail Business Daily Visit Wales Travel Trade
Birmingham Mail Rail Advent
Sources using alternative name North Wales Main Line or "North Wales Mainline":
Daily Post
New Civil Engineer
Rail Advent Leader Live ITV News Herald Wales Welsh Government NWTC North Wales Pioneer Bangor Aye UK Department for Transport Wrexham.com BBC News Deeside.com Wales Online Business Live Insider Media Rail Journal The Guardian Rail Business Daily West Wales Chronicle Sky News Construction Enquirer iNews Cambrian News LBC Denbighshire Free Press Nation.Cymru Wales247 Wrexham.com
"Main Line" is preferred in this proposal for consistency with similarly named articles.
Other: 
Nation.Cymru ("north Wales main railway line")
New Civil Engineer (both)
Daily Post (both)
Visit Wales ("North Wales Coast Railway")
While Transport for Wales Rail uses "Coast" on their Network Map it expands to Birmingham via Shrewsbury, so more descriptive of a service rather than the subject of this article. Nonetheless is only one source and a mere passenger operator rather than owner of the line.
Other stats: 
* Google Trends (do not rely on alone per WP:WIAN) There are searches for Main Line and almost none searched for Coast Line over the last 12 months.
* Google Ngrams no data is found except for Coast Line, so no comparison can be made, plus only up to 2019.
* Google Search not performed, skewed by unrelated news feeds (for now) and the dlc for Train Simulator Classic, and general use possibly based on Wikipedia's usage, while being discouraged for other names under WP:WIAN.
If there are any issues with the links, please raise them. Diolch! DankJae 00:28, 24 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 24 October 2023