Talk:Adam Clayton

message: A claim that Clayton is "Irish" should be supported by a citation, since it is obviously a controversial claim. All of the evidence in the article is that he maintains British nationality. If he has Irish nationality, then there should be some evidence put forth. I have edited the lede to omit his nationality altogether, instead describing U2 as an "Irish rock band."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.165.169.170 (talk) 17:15, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Nationality v. 2

message: In this quote: "When the band was first being signed to CBS Records, they refused to sign the band unless Mullen was fired," the 'they' seems to refer to U2, when it would make more sense if it was changed to 'CBS.' Obviously if the band wanted to fire Mullen, they would have. 
Unfortunately I don't know enough about U2 to make this change with any authority.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.74.22.158 (talk) 10:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Who is 'they'?

message: Is there any proof to The Edge writing the basslines for most of U2's songs?
:Yeah, Edge personally told me that. Are you joking? --Aeternus 16:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On it. Unless someone objects, I'm changing all of the references to "Clayton", because it has precedent for bios, and besides, calling him "Adam" is A)less formal, thus less suited to an encyclopedia, and B)a fan-club thing. It is really common on fan sites, and I'd bet that the Encyclopedia Britannica wouldn't call him Adam. Neranei (talk) 18:04, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: older entries

message: Does somebody know that, when U2 was formed, Adam Clayton didn't knew to play the bass guitar! --Aeternus 16:09, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nooooooooo...I mean, he's such a FABULOUS guitarist and everything...although the argument can be made that he STILL doesn't know how to play the bass. DestradoZero 17:10, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed...It's the old 'Ringo' syndrome again. Most people who actually play the drums truly respect him.  Adam Clayton is well respected among bassists for mastery of the 'keep it simple, stupid' style.  He could probably himself play 10 times the notes, but it would ruin the song.  The simple powerful bass lines are integral to most of U2's songs.  Clayton's trademark style is playing 'for the beat', with a great tone which only comes from a very confident left hand technique.  Like Ringo, if you isolated his track alone on a master tape, you could tell instantly which song he was playing without the rest of the band. 160.84.253.241 12:41, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Funny fact!

message: It says that he seemed to be the only one not married or in a steady relationship, and then in the next line that his fiance and he had been dating for ten years. Isn't that a "steady relationship?"
:Well, I guess since the mid-1990's is fairly "steady" - but given that two of the others are with the women they met in high school (the mid-70s) and the third is divorced (with kids) from a women he met in high school, mid-90s is only "recent" by U2 standards. Article could be modified though--Merbabu 00:34, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, a good thought. I think the article should mention her, but i removed your recent addition cos linking the break up to his acholism is pure speculation. But please provide info on the relationship if you can find good WP:RS. --Merbabu 03:49, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  contradiction 

message: Yo everyone, I just added the Gibson LP Triumph bass to the list.
He's seen in the photograph using the Gibson LP Triumph bass during the Achtung sessions in 1990-1991; his however is white and has a different bridge, possibly modified from the stock or custom.
[The picture is found in the U218 singles manual, US release.]
If anyone knows how to better source this addition please say so, as the picture is copyrighted and can't be used for wiki through a scan.76.19.30.95 17:30, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Instruments used 

message: Copied from email, Nerenai
Lead discusses, almost exclusively, his many homes and the songs he's in. I don't think it adequately summarises the article - discuss stuff relevant to each section. It could be lengthened a bit more too. I also don't think you need to list the names of that many songs (if any) - it doesn't really add anything to it, and it seems a bit crufty. 
I'm not sure how most BLPs are written (I haven't really worked on any), but is it common practice to discuss the guy's birth, and early life, as you do in the biography section? AFAIK, only notable info is mentioned, but you should check some of the FA bios and see if I'm right. FA, not GA, because not all GA reviewers actually check this…then again, there is some info about the early beginnings of U2 via family connections - that should stay. 
3rd paragraph of bio REALLY needs a ref. So does most of 2nd (eg. Info about name changes and whatnot). The U2 article could help with this.
Ref 6 - it should be directly after the full stop (or period, or whatever you call it), there shouldn't be a space there. 
Ref for alcohol incident? Ref for bass teaching, and for M:I stuff, and for that paragraph? Don't discuss who the other guys married - leave it in their articles
Ref 8 has same problem as ref 6.
Wikilink for 4/4 (music style)? 
Ref 9 - same as 8 and 6. Check this for all other refs (also seen on ref 10)
"Clayton rarely sings, but has been known to do so on several occasions." - Doesn't sound too good.
Ref 13 not needed where it is. Very obvious statement, don't need a source for it. 
Are refs 19, 20, and 21 ALL needed there? And isn't there ANY more content that can come out of them?
All refs need to be made using  - including publisher information (eg. CNN) and work (who wrote the news article or whatever)(eg. Bob Smith), etc. Using AndyZ's peer reviewer (link to it in my monobook), this is auto-done, but you still need to add the additional info. 
IIRC, see also section comes before refs.
You only need 2 external links at most - one for his homepage (or U2's homepage), and one for the most official website associated with him (these can be one and the same). In the current case, I'd use the first and last ELs. 
:Category:Ivor Novello Award winners. Is this mentioned anywhere in the article?
That's all there is so far. Get to work! Dihydrogen Monoxide 07:42, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Neranei (talk) 02:59, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Further, my opinion after doing this, is that this article's references are far too heavy on fan sites, especially U2 Online, U2wanderer.com, but also atu2.com. This article really could benefit from more reliable sources, news sites, newspapers online, etc. And I think that the multiple (basically exactly the same) references to the pages describing the various Mission Impossible soundtracks/theme are redundant, and could be reduced to only one. Sorry Neranei, you know I adore you, but I think this article's references need some beefing up. (Granted, it would probably not affect GA status, but in the long term, a good foundation is a strength.) Ariel♥Gold 07:11, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what you miss when you review offline/via email.  Nerenai - I agree on this.  Do a google news search, there should be plenty there.  Also use  (see WP:REF) rather then using multiple refs for the same page. Dihydrogen Monoxide 07:14, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To clarify, you name the first ref, with <ref name="name"> (where "name" is whatever, be it "one" or "two" or "BBC" or whatever), followed by the full citation template (and closing /ref tag), and then for items that are covered with that one reference you simply place instead of having to use the full citation. I'd actually suggest reducing the soundtrack references to one (while they go to different pages, they are basically exactly the same, and for the purposes of illustrating Clayton's involvement, only one is needed, even if cited multiple times). Hope that helps explain how multiple can work. Ariel♥Gold 07:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll do the soundtrack refs as an example. Dihydrogen Monoxide 07:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, DM, and I finished the rest of soundtrack refs, don't need every single variation of the theme that was published, just the comprehensive soundtrack is enough. Four refs to one soundtrack listing is a bit excessive still, but it is better than having four pages to basically the same thing. Ariel♥Gold 07:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, thanks guys! I will do those when I have time. Also, about atu2.com, I have found that they collect news stories; would you prefer I link to the originals? That is what I will do unless there is some objection. Thanks guys! Love, Neranei (talk) 21:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Addendum: The atu2.com news article I found was too old to be in Q magazine's archives, so I have left the citation as is. Love, Neranei (talk) 21:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: GA time. Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 22:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA on hold

message: I've removed the spaces between the period at end of sentences, and the ref. They should come immediately after period. I've moved refs that were cited in the middle of sentences, to the end of sentences. I've spaced the start of sentences that had no space between a reference and the first letter of next sentence. I've added author and publisher to all reference citations, and I've placed books into proper citation format. Ariel♥Gold 07:11, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Further, my opinion after doing this, is that this article's references are far too heavy on fan sites, especially U2 Online, U2wanderer.com, but also atu2.com. This article really could benefit from more reliable sources, news sites, newspapers online, etc. And I think that the multiple (basically exactly the same) references to the pages describing the various Mission Impossible soundtracks/theme are redundant, and could be reduced to only one. Sorry Neranei, you know I adore you, but I think this article's references need some beefing up. (Granted, it would probably not affect GA status, but in the long term, a good foundation is a strength.) Ariel♥Gold 07:11, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what you miss when you review offline/via email.  Nerenai - I agree on this.  Do a google news search, there should be plenty there.  Also use  (see WP:REF) rather then using multiple refs for the same page. Dihydrogen Monoxide 07:14, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To clarify, you name the first ref, with <ref name="name"> (where "name" is whatever, be it "one" or "two" or "BBC" or whatever), followed by the full citation template (and closing /ref tag), and then for items that are covered with that one reference you simply place instead of having to use the full citation. I'd actually suggest reducing the soundtrack references to one (while they go to different pages, they are basically exactly the same, and for the purposes of illustrating Clayton's involvement, only one is needed, even if cited multiple times). Hope that helps explain how multiple can work. Ariel♥Gold 07:17, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll do the soundtrack refs as an example. Dihydrogen Monoxide 07:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, DM, and I finished the rest of soundtrack refs, don't need every single variation of the theme that was published, just the comprehensive soundtrack is enough. Four refs to one soundtrack listing is a bit excessive still, but it is better than having four pages to basically the same thing. Ariel♥Gold 07:42, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, thanks guys! I will do those when I have time. Also, about atu2.com, I have found that they collect news stories; would you prefer I link to the originals? That is what I will do unless there is some objection. Thanks guys! Love, Neranei (talk) 21:20, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Addendum: The atu2.com news article I found was too old to be in Q magazine's archives, so I have left the citation as is. Love, Neranei (talk) 21:57, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: GA time. Dihydrogen Monoxide (H2O) 22:51, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: My edits

message: ?
Also regarding nationality: when U2 were on The Jonathan Ross show, Bono stated that Adam Clayton has an Irish passport. Of course, he may have been lying/joking. Stutley (talk) 10:04, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Scottish Protestant

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message: I changed his type to solo singer, because he sings, but it was reverted because 'he does not sing'. I mean, it's even in his instruments section that he sings. What does everyone else think?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.69.182.141 (talk) 23:33, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should be classified under solo singer  

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message: The lede says: He has worked on several solo projects throughout his career, such as his work with fellow band member Larry Mullen Jr. on the 1996 version of the "Theme from Mission: Impossible".
Why cite a project which involved another bandmate as an example of a solo project???
--86.4.114.149 (talk) 22:29, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Solo projects 

message: In 1989, Clayton took on Irish citizenship, so you can stop arguing over his "nationality". 
See here: https://www.oxfordmail.co.uk/news/6633301.boy-grew-rock-star/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.61.115.58 (talk) 19:46, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clayton's Irish