Talk:Farhud

message: Were the Saatchi brothers of Saatchi & Saatchi fame, Iraqi Jews expelled in this event?
:During the progress of the event itself, no Jews were expelled. However, following the event, many jews who had the capability to do so, chose to leave. 80.179.69.194 (talk) 13:00, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Saatchi

message: This article has a ridiculous focus on the Mufti of Jerusalem, who in fact played a minor role in this event.  It also has plain errors of fact (eg. "charged with terrorism").  Until I can find time to fix it, this article gets a tag. --Zero 01:43, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Zero, it's been long time since you have commented out every single mention of al-Husayni from the article. Is this your idea of his "minor role"? ←Humus sapiens←ну? 09:42, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Actually I didn't edit the article except to add a tag.  Some mention of al-Husayni needs to go back, but the myth that he was the major instigator does not. --Zero 09:59, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  You are correct about the tag. Sorry, I should have doublechecked. In addition to Husayni's role, perhaps it makes sense to separate the Golden Square coup into its own article. History of Iraq doesn't mention it (nor British/German engagement there, nor Farhud) at all. ←Humus sapiens←ну? 10:21, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oops, I'll have to take that back. There is Iraq coup (1941). ←Humus sapiens←ну? 10:23, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: This article

message: Ian, are you seriously going to argue that Farhud was the only pogrom from 5th century BCE until 1941? ←Humus sapiens ну? 20:20, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You do understand the difference between "arguing" something and citing a claim in the literature? I reported accurately material published in the British Journal of Middle Eastern Studies. The Daly Telegraph article doesn't say anything about pogroms before this date; indeed it says "persecution was not out-and-out violence until shortly before the Farhud". --Ian Pitchford 20:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The only pogrom in 2,500 years? 

message: the hebrew article, from which i've made the edits, is well-sourced, although the sources are in hebrew only. considering the dearth of sources on the subject, i doubt many good non-hebrew sources can be found. how can we proceed? while it is obvious that "no english sources means it never happened" is a bad policy, i still don't like the idea of having no english sources. should i copy the hebrew ones from hebrew wikipedia?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.228.215 (talk) 17:16, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sourcing issues

message: how do such groups work together, without breaking rules against canvasing?  what is the most effective way to reach a postive consensus, when in most cases it seems to just be a one on one, head butting with no hope of agreement? --Cimicifugia (talk) 01:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is there a group on Antisemitism? 

message: Why was this page moved without discussion?
This event is known as the Farhud. I suggest moving the article back to where it belongs. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 09:40, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It does look better in the cat to have them listed all by date, but the event is commonly known as Farhud, so we don't have much choice. Chesdovi (talk) 12:31, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved it back for now. Move never agreed upon. "Baghdad" was even misspelled. Plot Spoiler (talk) 15:40, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move 

message: Dear Oncenawhile, you have recently performed an edit on Farhud article, tagging it as "clarifying, matching rest of article, removing non-RS source and oversimplification of catalyst". However, i must note your removed two sources, one of which is clearly a WP:RS (US Dept of State research division). Please self-revert as WP:GF.GreyShark (dibra) 16:19, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Greyshark, the non-RS source I was referring to was at www.projetaladin.org. I have no issue with the US Dept of State source, but I removed the sentence it supports because the sentence was part of the oversimplification inherent in the paragraph that attempts to connect the Farhud directly to the exodus. The is a complex issue which needs to be treated carefully. Oncenawhile (talk) 21:02, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of reliable source on Farhud

message: Per Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Kurdistan#Farhud_-_a_Kurdish_word?, can anyone find a source explaining why this term is used? Oncenawhile (talk) 08:32, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reason for the name? 

message: User:Chesdovi, please could you explain this edit from 2010? The source you added () does not include one of the quotes you linked it to ("forgotten pogrom of the Holocaust"). Interestingly, the quote since turned up in a book written three years later, where the authors appear to have taken the two quotes together verbatim from your wikipedia edit..... Oncenawhile (talk) 17:38, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately an increasing number of authors, especially journalists, cite Wikipedia without acknowledgement.  In this book a citation is given on the sentence, but the referenced article does not have it.  It also doesn't have the word "pogrom" except in the names of works it cites. To place the Farhud in the Holocaust, something much better is needed. Zerotalk 06:52, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe this was the source? Chesdovi (talk) 13:03, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe the quote should be attributed to Edwin Black who seems to have come up with the slogan, although it has since been repeated by others . Chesdovi (talk) 13:13, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes in lead 

message: Cohen and Shenhav both state they were not aware of any other pogroms in the history of Iraq's Jews.
However, we have an uncited sentence stating "There had been at least two earlier comparable pogroms in the modern history of Iraqi Jews, in Basra in 1776 and in Baghdad in 1828."
Can anyone source this?
Oncenawhile (talk) 07:36, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The Encyclopedia Judaica articles on those two cities don't mention either of these, so they can't have been too notable.  In 1776 the Persians captured Basra after a siege; we need more than the death of some Jews, we need an action particularly against Jews. Zerotalk 08:32, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earlier pogroms in Iraq? 

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message: Rachel Wahba . There may be some things in her writings to include in the article, or perhaps a mention of them. Peaceray (talk) 20:41, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
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