Talk:Jonathan Turley

message: Can someone describe his political leanings? He seems to be center-left. -Amit (obvious ivan bot)
My read of him is that he is (in USA) anti-DNC and is frequently used by the GOP Congress. On 4 Dec 19, he is the "darling" of the GOP Congresspersons on the House Judiciary Committee. Although his demeanor is "judicial", his words and citations are skewed towards helping the GOP win the impeachment debate. It's especially relevant in that he is shedding crocodile tears over the fate of the Democrats on the committee about their committing political suicide. (My opinions are present in these comments.) -Jayxmn (talk) 17:53, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: His notability is due to his legal scholarship.  In theory, he is a creature of the law, not politics. -- Phuongj 02:01, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Politics?

message: This article was automatically  assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 18:00, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: He's a law professor. That means he teaches. Does he teach constitutional law? I knew him as a professor of environmental law many years ago, but now he's referred to as an "expert on constitutional law". When did that happen?
BTW, his notability is not due to his legal scholarship. No disrespect intended, but his notability comes in part from his significant and noble work as a public-interest lawyer but mostly from his TV appearances. He got himself famous by talking about the OJ Simpson grand jury and leveraged that into a career as a "legal expert."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.143.2.84 (talk) 03:13, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Teaching?

message: I had added this phrase to characterize how Turley is regarded.  I did not mean it to be puffery.  Thanks for pointing out that it needs a reference.Foobarnix (talk) 19:56, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the clarification and for adding the reference. Drrll (talk) 19:58, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Someone who speaks truth to power

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message: I tried to edit the lead paragraph to include impeachment testimony on Clinton and Trump which seem to be the most notable thing about him. One sentence that was generic about him testifying before Congress was included.  A sentence that included references to Clinton and Trump wikipedia pages and current impeachment inquiry wasn't saved.   Deanrah (talk) 19:29, 4 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turley's Testimony on Impeachment 

message: Turley reaching opposite conclusions on Clinton and Trump impeachments is noteworthy, but this article goes further and claims that his legal reasoning was diametrically opposite in both cases.  This seems unlikely as Turley's recent testimony cites some of his 1998 arguments, and in any case the sources cited do not identify any contradiction between the old and new arguments.  Is there any evidence Turley logically reversed himself, or only that his analyses applied to different facts reached different conclusions?
73.149.246.232 (talk) 09:21, 12 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: That does appear to be incorrect besides being a violation of WP:SYN.  If no objections, I'll remove it in a day or so. 132.159.228.222 (talk) 15:34, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  keep it. Numerous RS that follow the impeachment  news closely are calling it a contradiction: (1) www.businessinsider.com › republican-witness-jonathan-turley-contra...Dec 4, 2019 - Turley "made a number of claims that directly contradicted his previous statements and testimony." 2) www.thenation.com   Dec 5, 2019 "Jonathan Turley's testimony was so inconsistent, it contradicted his own previous statements on impeachment."  (3) The Hill  https://thehill.com/opinion/judiciary/473227-the-shifting-impeachment-positions-of-jonathan-turley  "he [Turley] has hovered on both sides of the issue" and goes into detail with numerous quotes from Turley over the years. (4) www.washingtonpost.com › 2019/12/05 "He blatantly contradicted his position pre-President Trump"; (5) "The Independent" (a London newspaper) 4 December 2019  "Today's Jonathan Turley should really have a coffee with 2014's Jonathan Turley, who argued the complete opposite of what he argued today in a newspaper column"  Rjensen (talk) 17:42, 24 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's safe to say Turley would not be a Fox legal contributor if he had been for Trump's impeachment.   Plenty of attorneys have laid out Turley's contradictions. Editor45687 (talk) 03:13, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  No evidence for statements about contradiction between 1998 and 2019 impeachment testimony 

message: Jonathan Turley's middle name is Robert.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2607:FCC8:AD08:EC00:9501:68AE:9604:5ED9 (talk) 03:58, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Middle Name

message: July 25 2020, Dobbs fawns all over Turley; what is up with this?  No mention of in article about patronage. Wikipietime (talk) 23:27, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fox’s Lou Dobbs appreciation 

message: Why no article or explanation as to what this is?
I found this;
The J. B. and Maurice C. Shapiro Fellowship is an organization that donates a lot of money to George Washington University's law school. Two of the faculty chairs are named after them. Jonathan Turley, and also Robert Glicksman, who is the J. B. and Maurice C. Shapiro Professor of Environmental Law. Wikipietime (talk) 23:31, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shapiro chair 

message: This seems to be written by Turley or his handlers.  It reads like an advertisement.  This article is long, lists every "award."  People much more famous than this guy have much shorter articles. lol  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8803:FF09:0:109:51D9:8A36:517D (talk) 18:09, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advertising 

message: A section about this should seemingly be added to the page. 45.47.58.122 (talk) 14:03, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trump's 16 April 2024 citation of Turley's objection to Trump's New York criminal prosecution