Talk:Obsessive–compulsive spectrum

message: The claim that autism spectrum disorders are linked to OCD spectrum sounds a bit outlandish and absurd.  Unless references can be added to this article soon, I would suggest removing autism spectrum and any other tenuous links until references are found. --Zach425 talk/contribs 01:05, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed; I have moved the conditions without references to this page; see #Unreferenced conditions.  Whatever404 (talk) 12:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference for autism spectrum & others

message: The following conditions were listed in the Conditions section.  Until they are referenced, they should remain here.
*Muscle dysmorphia
*Autism spectrum disorders, including autism, Asperger syndrome and PDD-NOS
*Compulsive buying disorder and kleptomania
*Depersonalization disorder
*Sydenham's chorea
*Torticollis
*Self injurious behaviour, including dermatillomania
-- Whatever404 (talk) 12:49, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Unreferenced conditions

message: There seem to be three questions here:
#What terms are used in the literature?
#What do those terms mean?
#What should the article title be?
To answer question #1, I dug up all but one of the following articles (one was already present).
For question #2 - Let's look. (Italicized links indicate that there is no abstract freely available.)
The following seven articles each refer to an existing disorder (pica, body dysmorphic disorder, etc) as an "obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorder", presumably meaning that each disorder is one of many disorders on an obsessive-compulsive spectrum. 
*Is Pica an eating disorder or an obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorder? (no abstract)
*Morbidity risk for obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorders in first-degree relatives of patients with eating disorders. – "the obsessive-compulsive spectrum of disorders"
*Pathological gambling and obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorders. – "this study provides preliminary support for a Spectrum Disorder Model"
*Is olfactory reference syndrome an obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorder?: two cases and a discussion. – "an OCD spectrum disorder"
*Body dysmorphic disorder as an obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorder
*Body dysmorphic disorder: an obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorder, a form of affective spectrum disorder, or both?
*Trichotillomania. An obsessive compulsive spectrum disorder?
At least one of the three articles in this exchange uses the term obsessive-compulsive disorder spectrum in the abstract (the other abstracts are not visible).  This usage adds the word "disorder" but uses it as an additional descriptor for the spectrum.  See the initial article's abstract.
*Negative outcome after neurosurgery for refractory obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorder.
*Response to Yaryura-Tobias et al (2000) negative outcome after neurosurgery for refractory obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorder, World J Biol Psychiatry 1: 197-203. (no abstract)
*Response to Dr. S. Curran and Dr. K. Matthew's Letter to the editor (World J Biol Psychiatry 2001, 2: 107) concerning Yaryura-Tobias et al (2000) negative outcome after neurosurgery for refractory obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorder, World J Biol Psychiatry 1: 197-203. (no abstract)
This article uses the term obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorder in the title but makes no reference in the abstract. 
*The paraphilias, obsessive compulsive spectrum disorder, and the treatment of sexually deviant behaviour.
This article uses a variety of terms in the abstract, including obsessive compulsive spectrum disorder, "a family of disorders known as obsessive compulsive (or OCD) spectrum disorder", "OCD spectrum disorders", and  "the OCD spectrum disorder family"
*Obsessive compulsive spectrum disorder.
So, question #3: what is the best title for this article?  The overall sense that I get from these sources is that they all refer to a classification scheme where existing disorders are grouped on a spectrum.  Nearly all of the sources refer to the spectrum itself, whether explicitly, or by referring to a specific disorder as one of many disorders on the spectrum. 
Consider that if we were to title the article Obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorder, how would it read?  Would the article begin: "An obsessive-compulsive spectrum disorder is a disorder that has been identified by one or more rearchers as existing on an obsessive-compulsive spectrum."?  From there we would describe the spectrum itself.  Why, then, would we title the article with a term which means "any one of many disorders which exist on a spectrum", when the spectrum is the topic? 
Whether to refer to the spectrum as the obsessive compulsive spectrum or the obsessive-compulsive disorder spectrum is another question.  If we were to use the term Obsessive-compulsive disorder spectrum, we run into the problem of describing such disorders as "OCD spectrum disorders", i.e., as "obsessive-compulsive disorder spectrum disorders".  Similarly, if the Bipolar spectrum article were called Bipolar disorder spectrum, such disorders would then be referred to as "bipolar disorder spectrum disorders".  Clearly, this is sub-optimal.
For these reasons, I consider Obsessive–compulsive spectrum to be the most appropriate title.  Whatever404 (talk) 20:01, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see #Google Scholar results below. Eubulides (talk) 07:25, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: PubMed results

message: The four sections body dysmorphic disorder, hypochondriasis, tic disorders, and trichotillomania don't have any source. They were all added by the same editor, but I find them different in verbal quality - some are much better phrased than others. As I discovered a bit of copypasting by the same editor, I wonder where the sections come from. I did google searches but couldn't find evidence of any more copypasting. Anyway, all sections need sources! Lova Falk talk 17:44, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Four whole sections without any source 

message: Keeping section for trich, but adding a section for bfrbs in general as well as one for dermatillomania, as only mentioning trich seems wrong.
if you have any suggestions, or would rather there only be a section for bfrbs instead of additional ones for trich and derma please give some feedback!
(i dont wanna delete the section for trich just in case) ¿V0id? {have a great day!} (talk) 14:56, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing mentions of Trichotillomania to Bfrbs in general