Talk:The Ultimate Warrior/Archive 1

message: Stop the damn blanking!  Wacking 2/3s of an article because "it's not sufficently sourced" or whatever the excuse du jour is simply not acceptable.  Throw in some citation-needed tags, flag the article, and talk about it in the discussion section.  Gutting an article is never acceptable.  67.188.7.78 10:00, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Damn Blanking 

message: He was a heel in World Class when he started as the Dingo Warrior. He was also a heel when he teamed with Sting as the Bladerunners.74.129.248.103 08:39, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Never a Heel? 

message: How many issues of the comic book are there? The article only says it was scrapped in "early 1997". I found 4 different issues on ebay, including the "Christmas" one. 141.53.194.251 23:09, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comic Book 

message: It would be good if the person who put in the POV check would say what they were concerned about. As of earlier this week, large parts of the page were a one-sided attack on this guy that was written from the "mark-smart-mark" or "WWE" point of view. In particular, treating the contents of the DVD as if its a fact based documentary of any kind is crazy. Same with the comments of Vince McMahon being treated as fact. And please, nobody use the word "shoot" about that DVD. Every comment on the DVD is a work. If the boss goes out looking for negative comments about someone, its still as much a work as if the boss goes out looking for positive comments.
There was two ways to go. Either the negative attack material could have been removed or written....or the other point of view could be removed. I decided to add the other point of view to balance it out.
The worst parts of the DVD are where office flunkies and badly skilled wrestlers like jobber Steve "Brooklyn Brawler" Lombardi and Sgt. Slaughter are critical of the warrior's wrestling skills. Also, given certain massive abusers of steriods on the WWE payroll, steriod jokes about the ultimate warrior don't work anymore.
:Wow, after that diatribe you're complaining about a lack of NPOV...  let's make one thing perfectly clear.  That section of the article is simply a synopsis of the DVD, and the opinions expressed therein are the opinions expressed on the DVD.  Nothing more.  Not necessarily the opinions of the authors of the article.  If you're going to continue to write here, you have to learn to stay neutral. --HBK 03:13, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV check 

message: I deleted the Warrior quote of "I have many gay friends" as well as the entire account of his DePaul University speech. I also explained what Warrior meant by "queering doesn't make the world work" in order to make this article fair. Otherwise, this is just a left wing attack on Warrior's political views. Accoring to the Warrior's account of his DePaul speech, he was harrassed and asked ridiculous questions by the braindead left wing students there. The Dean or whatever the guy's title is also verbally attacked the Warrior, leading to the Warrior verbally attacking him. If Warrior's DePaul speech is going to be mentioned in this article, the account must be fair as opposed to being an attack on Warrior. I also corrected some grammatical errors. Titles of tv shows must be in italics. Also, Batista mentions that Warrior was a hero of his while he was growing up. However, Batista was about nineteen years old  when the Ultimate Warrior debuted in WWE.  Politician818 12:52, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weasel Words 

message: I changed the section called "The WWF Steroid Scandal" to "Disputes with the WWF." The dispute revolving around steroids was only briefly mentioned in this section, not long enough to warrant its own heading. Someone tried to put two titles under this section in order to further expand on it, but it looked pretty unwieldy. If someone is willing to write more details about the steroid scandal then I would certainly be willing to change it back.--Auger Martel 11:29, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section title change 

message: Should there be a section about his confusing promos?
Also, I read above about the HH promo where Warrior alluded to the fact that he beat hogan before and I think the original person who put it there meant instead of Kayfabe that Warrior broke an untold rule about talking about past events like that because it would ruin the build-up to the match. Hogan says this on the self destruction of the ultimate warrior and claims he had to hold back from punching him because of it.
::Okay, I can say this because it's in the discussion section. Hogan has made several comments about 'shooting' on wrestlers, or being restrained from hitting them. Most notably he claimed in his "autobiography" to have 'shot' on Riki Choshu in a NJPW match and pinned him. Hogan tells lies a lot. In fact, he probably actually believes what he says. While Hogan can be quoted, his quotes should never be trusted for Wikipedia articles. Suriel1981 02:52, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was well known Warrior beat Hogan before. I think DDP made a reference to it when he did an in-ring promo about how he called up a guy Hogan's never beaten, and it turned out to be Warrior. Also, it was promoted as "the rematch." In other words, WCW never tried to hide the fact that Warrior and HOgan had a past feud and hwo beat who. I don't think there is an unwritten or written rule about talking about past event since it happens all the time. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.180.19.33 (talk) 16:32, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promos and Pre-halloween havoc interview 

message: i had to remove some recent inserts that say Warrior sold his body to homosexuals early in his career.  seems to be the work of 'rj' again... - penu1timate
I've seen some ridiculous rumors on here too, like that he sucked Red Bastien's dick in the gym locker room in exchange for training.
::Well that has just made me burst out laughing, but considering Warrior's attitude towards homosexuals (see his "Queering don't make the world work" quote) it is doubtful that Warrior sucks dick for training. Okay, I have to go away and laugh some more. Suriel1981 02:48, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well someone as homophobic as him just may have something to hide. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.180.19.33 (talk) 16:27, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warrior is gay... 

message: The section on Warrior's previous business relationships doesn't cite its sources. It also violates NPOV by opining that Warrior doesn't live up to his teachings, so out it goes.209.247.23.130 22:42, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Previous business relationships

message: I think there should be a section about his speaking career and the quotes he has made during this. Booshakla 01:40, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Be bold, create the section (with citations) and others with knowledge will likely help. --Bobak 21:21, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Speaking career

message: I realize many people are ignorant and have bought the WWE's point of view and want nothing more to speak of Warrior's "self destruction", but I would like to make an honest contribution to this page. Why can I not do that? I would like to see on this page and other wrestlers' pages a listing of notable feuds.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.11.204.32 (talk • contribs) 
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thread_title:  Blocked Editing 

message: can some1 please remove the statement about racist undertones being on Warrior's website.  this is getting to be rediculous, is it possible anymore to be opposed illegal immigration or terrorism without being called a racist by student activists on wikipedia.
::When you tell a student of Iranian decent to "get a towel," because Arabs supposedly are "towel heads" or "rag heads," as Hellwig did, it is difficult to see him as anything but a racist. Hellwig's also quite the hypocrite. He talks a lot about free speech, complains how "liberals" only support free speech when it agrees with them, then he tells people to love the US or leave it (ie. you either agree with what he says or you don't deserve to be in the USA, which goes against the very concept of free speech), calls people who disagree with his views "anti-American," and threatened to sue somethingawful.com for publishing an article that did nothing more but disagree with Hellwig's speech at the University of Conneticut. By the way, how do you know that people who would call Hellwig a racist are "student activists?" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.180.19.33 (talk) 16:17, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warrior Web 

message: Frankly, I don't consider Warrior to be a true conservative. Isn't he pro-war? If so, that would make him a neocon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 75.109.27.151 (talk) 02:38, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conservative or neoconservative? 

message: Please read WP:BLP.  Controversial material must be referenced or removed.  Other material does need referencing, yes, but it need not be removed.  Tag it as requiring a reference. Neil ╦ 18:24, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed one BLP violation, but most of the stuff Burntsauce was trying to remove did not violate BLP. — Moe ε 03:51, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have again removed multiple controversial, defamatory statements from this article, per WP:BLP, statements such as "Poor reputation in the wrestling business.", or "Warrior has amassed an extensive collection of failed business relationships and sour opinions of numerous business partners.", or "Warrior claimed he was later betrayed by a fraudulent web designer Chris Page.", and the many others, continually added in are really not acceptable, and I encourage those who know this subject to be diligent with these issues, properly sourcing negative statements, and removing those not sourced. Thanks so much! Ariel♥Gold 04:02, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  BLP concerns 

message: Were they published?  if not, someone update that.
216.165.95.5 (talk) 19:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Books 

message: Can someone please provide sources for the lawsuits that Warrior has been involved in? Concerns have been raised about BLP issues with this article (see above) and as such, controversial claims (which I would argue those about lawsuits certainly are) need sourcing or they will be removed. Terraxos (talk) 23:52, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The lawsuits from the mid 90's  and from 2006  with Titan Sports(WWE) are easy to verify. What other lawsuits need sources? --Quartet 14:44, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Legal issues section

message: Apparently on Warrior's offical website, he made some pretty disgusting remarks concering the death of Heath Ledger, and needed police protection from death threats he'd been receving. Is this true and can someone verify it or is it something thats been taken out of context. Masterofdestiny (talk) 05:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I DO know he referd to Heath as "Leather" Ledger and said that "his daughter would be better off now that the bad influence is gone". I sent Warrior and very strongly worded e-mail, and I told him HE should kill HIMSELF but never threatened him. So I don't know. The article was also in part on TMZ.com --Crash Underride 05:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is the link to the homophobic, and just down right cruel post  --Crash Underride 06:00, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heath Ledger 

message: Two pieces of information that I feel were noteworthy have been removed from the page and should be re-inserted. Warrior was a student to become a chiropractor and was studying in Atlanta, Georgia. Also, the page was edited to omit the claim from Warrior where he states he left the company after Summerslam in 1992, rather than being fired. The page, as it is stated currently, makes it appear as though Warrior was fired despite possibly having a valid claim. This lack of information makes Vince McMahon's version of the story appear as fact. When in actuality, this story is disputed by Warrior. 
ADDED: Warrior University was not started during Warrior's second WWF/E stint. It was not until around 1995-6 that Warrior University opened.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmurdock21 (talk • contribs) 21:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Past deletion of information 

message: Can we change the picture at the top of the page to a picture of him in his wrestling gear or at least put a picture of him in his gear somewhere on the page? It seems only logical considering thats the way almost everybody recognizes him. --71.36.128.104 (talk) 20:28, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Different picture 

message: In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) 
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thread_title:  Bot report : Found duplicate references ! 

message: I don't see anywhere in the given source that the plan was for Bret to face the Warrior at Royal Rumble '93. If it is there and I just can't see it, can someone tell me where in the source I can find it? Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.194.167.208 (talk) 23:42, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Below the Belt 

message: put in a photo there used to be one whoever took it away can you put it back!?!?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kalajan (talk • contribs) 20:10, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  PHOTO 

message: I'm fairly certain it's clear that it was published as a poster/pinup book. There is no text except the inside cover prose. I have a scan available if desired for proof. I also dispute it being valuable since this was a dollar bin book at VF condition. --Contributions/208.255.118.242 (talk) 19:58, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christmas comic book not a comic book 

message: why isnt it in the article that vince said on the dvd the self destruction of the ultimat warrior the warrior held a gun to his head during the pay dispute lol seems kinda note worthey  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.150.195.240 (talk) 02:37, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  self destruction 

message: It says he moved to California, and became a bodybuilder after he saw Robby Robertson.
When was that ? What year did he officially become a professional bodybuilder ?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.104.108.6 (talk) 18:57, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  His Bodybuilding Career 

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thread_title: File:Ultimate warrior.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion

message: I think it's worth mentioning that Warrior has been speaking out about the WWE, as well as wrestlers Hulk Hogan and Kevin Nash, online in videos on YouTube and possibly elsewhere. It's significant enough. I don't know why that hasn't been added already because he's been doing this for a few years now. And it's in par with Wikipedia's standards because the proof is in the videos, as he literally talks about some of the things you don't get to see behind the cameras, like Hulk's drug use and Nash's "two-faced" personality. --Matt723star (talk) 19:10, 19 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Was in the article previously and removed as being unencyclopedic and not really notable. Yankees76 Talk 13:36, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm surprised, I figured that to be significant because it deals with how he feels about the company he worked for and is most known for. --Matt723star (talk) 18:07, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Online

message: I know its referenced on Warrior' website, and was a huge rumor during his main WWF stint.  He had supposedly OD'ed on steroids, and a new person took over as the Ultimate Warrior.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chadmd23 (talk • contribs) 08:03, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alleged death 

message: When The Ultimate Warrior died, he collapsed out of nowhere walking to his car with his wife. I request that the cause of death will be put as Sudden Cardiac Arrest, as it is how athletes (such as he) suddenly collapse and die.
Actster (talk) 00:44, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Without a citation, absolutely not! That would be original research. --Malerooster (talk) 00:49, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

text: Not done:: until a cause of death has been announced by the authorities, it is speculation. NiciVampireHeart 00:53, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

text: Tons of wrestlers have regular heart attacks (also only a guess). Remember, "The phrase sudden cardiac death is a public health concept incorporating the features of natural, rapid, and unexpected. It does not specifically refer to the mechanism or cause of death." InedibleHulk (talk) 01:03, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 10 April 2014 

message: I started to post that The Warrior was the first WWE star to appear in a Slim Jims ad but I haven't yet found a source. All I have is a memory of his ad premiering before those featuring the 'Macho Man' Randy Savage. I seem to remember Savage's appearing after the Warrior's departure from the WWE so I assumed at the time that it was the reason for Savage's use in the commercials. Savage was in an Ad for a Rubik's game in the mid-80s but I am nearly 100% certain he didn't do one for the Slim Jims product until after Warrior did his.MARK VENTURE (talk) 19:05, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I remember seeing those.  Here's a source, "some have forgotten that Warrior was the original pitch man for Slim Jim in the '90s, before Randy "Macho Man" Savage assumed the role."LM2000 (talk) 20:18, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

text: I remember, too. I also still hear Lord Alfred Hayes' voice everytime someone mentions Castrol GTX. The Rubik's cube doesn't ring a bell. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:26, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

text: I want it, whatever it is. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:28, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

text: Here it is. Video, anyway. Almost as good. Now I get why I don't remember it. Wasn't alive yet. Still want it. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:30, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

text: Or wait. That's not 1980. Savage wasn't Macho yet. Copyright 1986. I started watching late that year, but nope, still no bell. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:36, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: The ULTIMATE WARRIOR SLIM JIM COMMERCIAL

message: The image on the page says its the last photo of him from April 7, but the photo was taken at Wrestlemania on April 6, so it should be two days before his death.--Mjs1991 (talk) 13:23, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought that at first too.  He is wearing the same three-piece suit that he wore during Raw though.  It looks like the jacket is a different color because of the lighting, but I don't think it is.LM2000 (talk) 18:30, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: In any case, we now have three of the gray-haired suit version. Hardly representative of the tassled, painted, jacked guy who became famous. Can someone else work on that? InedibleHulk (talk) 23:00, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Starship and I are working on it.  There's a pretty good one on Flickr that's free, but it has been deleted in the past for dubious reasons.  I've made a case to have it undeleted, so here's that if you're interested.LM2000 (talk) 23:25, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking better already, thanks. But yeah, still room for improvement. I think if we're going to argue fair use, we should do it on a clearer picture than that (which already seems rather free). A few of these scaled-down pics would be good. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:02, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

text: I think you're confusing fair use with free content in your undeletion. Free content needs no argument or justification. Fair use is only for copyrighted stuff. InedibleHulk (talk) 01:10, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if we'll be able to argue for a fair use pic since free (thank you for pointing out my bone-headed mistake) pictures do exist.  If someone wants to take up the task of attempting to get one then I'm with you in spirit.LM2000 (talk) 01:30, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I may need three more souls, because this article is about Jim Hellwig, Rock, The Dingo Warrior and The Ultimate Warrior. They look quite different, and it's educationally valuable to show how. Definitely beats adding 4,000 words. Remember, it's not just free pictures that need to exist, but free equivalent pictures. A zoomed out, blurry or 93% armed Warrior doesn't equal a decent shot. InedibleHulk (talk) 04:24, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

text: Run, just run with it. The one LM2000 is trying to undelete just doesn't show the face well enough for me. starship.paint  "YES!" 06:42, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Good luck, any decent image of him in his prime would do the article wonders.LM2000 (talk) 06:51, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't worry, Starship. I also plan on getting a good one of his painted face. That symbol was near half the gimmick. Essential illustration. Like Kamala's belly. But by run, I mean I'll probably do it tomorrow. InedibleHulk (talk) 07:20, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Would this picture including a WrestleMania poster of Warrior be allowed if I can persuade the uploader to change it to "free use"?  starship.paint  "YES!" 02:46, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably be alright, since it's a public display. But where do you plan on using it, and why? InedibleHulk (talk) 04:57, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can't get a fair use pic of his page, we can contemplate using that. Where to insert it? Anywhere in the WWF sections, I guess. starship.paint  "YES!" 05:33, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking a picture like that would work best in the infobox. Instantly sums up the the whole essence: the snarl, symbol, colours, tassels and steroids. The current infobox one would be better replacing one in the Return section. How he looked for two days after 18 years off is educational, but not so representative of the whole topic. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:27, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

text: How does this one grab you? The belt and the crazy were also big parts, and since its the kind of promo picture WWF used for signings (decades ago), it's easy to argue they won't mind it going public. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:37, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

text: OK, it's at . I uploaded it as an image from a TV show, which apparently translates to "screenshot". Not exactly true, but hopefully not a problem. I get the feeling I might have forgotten to dot some i's and cross some t's, but we'll see. Someone else want to put it in the WWF Champion section? InedibleHulk (talk) 04:57, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Unsure if my caption is good enough... starship.paint  "YES!" 05:44, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It was terrible! Just kidding. Made a couple minor fixes, but I like "endorse". Good choice for jargony torch-passing. Thanks. InedibleHulk (talk) 06:22, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

text: Quite frankly I have zero confidence that that picture is a CC licensed picture. starship.paint  "YES!" 08:55, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, that is a clear copyright violation. I love that the "source" is "Own work", which I seriously doubt. We already have enough images where this is no longer an issue anyways. STATic message me! 17:16, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

text: We should certainly use the image (or similar). Like I say above, it captures seven key aspects to (maybe) one for the current. But yeah, that licensing is bogus. Needs a fair use exemption. I'm getting there, just slowly. That's how I roll. Feel free to beat me to it. Just make sure you have an answer for all ten of these conditions. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:07, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  image 

message: Can we switch main pic (or at least put it somewhere below) to this cc licensed pic? http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Ultimate_warrior.jpg  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jerickson11235 (talk • contribs) 06:43, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Quite frankly I have zero confidence that that picture is a CC licensed picture. starship.paint  "YES!" 08:55, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, that is a clear copyright violation. I love that the "source" is "Own work", which I seriously doubt. We already have enough images where this is no longer an issue anyways. STATic message me! 17:16, 19 April 2014 (UTC)

text: We should certainly use the image (or similar). Like I say above, it captures seven key aspects to (maybe) one for the current. But yeah, that licensing is bogus. Needs a fair use exemption. I'm getting there, just slowly. That's how I roll. Feel free to beat me to it. Just make sure you have an answer for all ten of these conditions. InedibleHulk (talk) 19:07, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: part two

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message: This section needs more details, along the lines of:
: Initially Warrior was still a heel in the territory, managed by Gary Hart, although he was cheered during a heel versus heel feud with WCWA World Heavyweight Champion Rick Rude after the two fell out during a tag match.  After switching managers to Percival Pringle III, Warrior turned babyface permanently after a falling out with fellow Pringle proteges Buzz Sawyer) and Matt Borne after a six man tag match.
Could something along the lines of this material please be edited in to the appropriate place in the article? 62.190.148.115 (talk) 12:47, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request: World Class Championship Wrestling (1986–1987)

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message: Without any explanation of that, it makes it seem like someone screwed up the quote .  Was that supposed to mean even though Warrior was asking for a whopping $ 550,000 for ONE PPV match, Warrior himself thought that even the $ 550,000 (which is more than any other wrestler at that time would ever get for one PPV match except for maybe Hogan) was NOT fair because he knew Hogan was paid more than that and he wanted at least what Hogan got, if not more??? If THAT is what was meant, it was very VERY unclear. How could anyone say $550,000 for one damn wrestling match was not fair? Is it being suggested that Warrior was THAT damn full of himself?
Fixed Calm down its not that big of an issue, simple typo, it's fixed. Chris "WarMachineWildThing" Talk to me  01:21, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warrior found $550,000 for one match " NOT fair "??? That makes no sense without any explanation of it. 

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message: The reference ( # 5 ) that is supposed to support the statement that Warrior was a self-admitted heavy steroid user, does NOT support that at all . There is NO proof that Warrior ever said that . Now I'm not naive or stupid , I  KNOW Warrior used roids , but Wikipedia is supposed to follow a sourcing policy . The linked article does NOT substantiate that claim . That sentence should be removed , unless a much more credible source is found AND linked properly . Just because  SOMETHING is written is SOME random article somewhere , it doesn't make it fact simply because it was written in some article someplace .  Lol . Really , I could use the same exact logic and edit ( if it weren't locked ) Donald Trump's page and say he's a racist Nazi terrorist , simply because it was written in SOME article somewhere . 
96.237.181.213 (talk) 14:50, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The source used in that section is reliable and it would be wrong to remove because it's hard to divorce his departure from the steroid scandal at the time. Warrior was an admitted steroid user, that's not a controversial claim. Look up his interview from Hannity and Colmes after the Benoit tragedy in 2007.LM2000 (talk) 07:37, 26 July 2018 (UTC)

text: If it makes you feel better, you could think of him as a steroid user who admitted he was heavy. There're obviously a lot of unknowns about what he actually weighed at various points in time, but I've never heard him publicly correct Mike McGuirk or Howard Finkel. I'd take that as tacit admission of at least 270 pounds. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:47, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

text: Heavy.com isn't a great source for most things, but it says you need to know he was at least heavy enough to win two World Heavyweight Championships. That's pretty heavy, admit it. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:54, 28 July 2018 (UTC)

text: Some guy on a bodybuilding forum isn't a great source for a lot of things, but he says he has some old emails where Warrior admits he was 279 pounds a week before the Junior USA contest. "Big and hard and never had any problems with fat, only water!" Also a bit in there about steroids, if you're still interested in that. InedibleHulk (talk) 03:19, 28 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  There is a blatant lie in the Various Feuds section 

message: FYI Warrior didn't demand the $550k for Wrestlemania VII, he demanded it for SummerSlam (hence the letter from McMahon suspending him for threatening Titan Entertainment's largest summer event of the year.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.129.18.68 (talk) 23:25, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  1991 section 

message: Wikipedia is not meant to be the primary source of information for those who use it. While Mr. Hellwig obviously still has fans within the wrestling community, the level of detail in this article is excessive. The recounting of so many individual matches should be removed or at least condensed, as Hellwig and the other wrestlers were essentially actors playing parts in events with mostly prearranged results (although the specific moments of action in those matches involved a level of improvisation). The equivalent of this approach in articles about other types of entertainment would be recounting in detail the plots of dozens of individual episodes of a popular television program or installments of a long-running film series within the primary article. 
Information on the development of Hellwig's characters over his career and arrangements with the organizations for which he worked are significant in the discussion. The narrative of his character, the "kayfabe" of his career, is worthy of description. A "match history" could be a useful separate article for those interested in results, although I personally do not find it to be warranted. In this article, however, they should be reduced to results of major events within his career -- those that specifically advanced or detracted from his standing in the promotions or led to changes in his life. Even these descriptions should be condensed to something like, "On [date], Warrior faced [Wrestler X] in [a certain type of match or event], with [results such as winning or surrendering a title or a change to his membership in a group of characters]."
I am not qualified to edit this article to the extent necessary, but it is badly in need of editing.
DennisModMod (talk) 01:05, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overly detailed article