Talk:Winter Hill Gang

message: While Winter Hill is a neighborhood in Somerville, and the gang was active in Somerville, supposedly the name of the gang comes from two of its founders, Howie Winter and ?? Hill.
::The gang was named after the neighborhood.  The gang member named Winter is purely a coincidence.  I don't know what "Hill" you are talking about.  My uncle married the daughter of a member of the Winter Hill gang.  The neighborhood has existed since before the Revolution and as such is quite old  I learned all this when I did my aunt's genealogy for her.  As for when the "gang" was founded, her family has been living in Somerville since 1734, is Irish and the earliest report on the illegal activities of her family in Boston was an account of a house of ill repute managed by one of her ancestors in 1767 in Boston long before the potato famine Irish came to Boston.  The only reason I have not included any of this in the main article is because it is original research and I promised my aunt not to publish any of it until her and the last of her siblings are gone.  My uncle is in his 80's and she is in her seventies.  Her youngest sister is 62 and in good health so that won't be happening for a long time.  Don't take my word for the Somerville history though, go look it up and I don't mean on Wikipedia.  Go to the Boston Public Library where much of my research was conducted.  It has excellent resources.  .  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.190.53.6 (talk) 03:18, 27 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This article cites no sources whatsoever, nor is there any credible source which can verify the information contained within. Sections with lists of names should be considered for deletion. Bentobias 20:08, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citing Sources 

message: If anyone has any info on the Mullen, please make a page for it or message me, thanks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sbfenian1916 (talk • contribs) 22:30, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mullen Gang 

message: I discovered a newer article called "The Winter Hill Gang" which contained some good info. I redirected it here and have preserved everything from that article on its Talk page - and below, here, for possible future use. Some of it is encyclopedic and useful to this article. Some of it is not. --AStanhope 03:43, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article '''The''' Winter Hill Gang redirected here - contents of that article 

message: Various ip's have been adding people to this list that don't exist or are not really members of the gang. This activity goes back months, as such it is hard to tell what is now valid and what is not. I propose that anyone on the list that does not already have a valid wiki article be deleted. Vrac 03:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gang members

message: I have cleaned this article up to bring it in line with Wikipedia:Manual of Style, including:
*remove repeated links and links to plain English words per WP:CONTEXT
*reduce length of links to actual article title by eliminating abuse of link piping
*remove links to date per MOS:SYL
*removed links to acronyms
Ground Zero | t 11:31, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean up

message: I removed the part about Whitey Bulger being fourth on the FBI's 10 most wanted list. The list is not ranked. m12 (talk) 02:34, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: FBI Most wanted

message: The source that is sited for the most part of this article is the book "The Brothers Bulger: How They Terrorized and Corrupted Boston for a Quarter Century" by talk radio Howie Carr. Most of the allies were drawn from this text, and were targets of Mr. Carr who is a conservative talk show host. In particular former State Senate President William Bulger, who Carr targets because of his liberal views and membership in the Democratic Party. Mr. Carr has made a career of attacking liberals and Democrats in the Commonwealth of Massachusetts, this article draws heavily from a biased source, Mr. Carr. Why he is so biased? I can't say, one might theorize his years of failing to bring down Mr. William Bulger are likely the cause, but for anyone who reads the book the tainted and stilted views of Mr. Carr are immediately obvious. This article should be removed in its entirity. While the Winter Hill Gang did exist, this article has been so stilted by the views of one critic, right wing talk show host Howie Carr. Biased, stilted, and falsified; no other words can be used to describe Mr. Carr's novel, because it is just that, a work of fiction by an angry man who is a ultraconservative in a liberal state, and would say, do, or write anything to smear liberals elected to state government. Mr. William Bulger may or may not have been corrupt, but the only fact in Mr. Carr's book is that William Bulger is indeed the brother of James "Whitey" Bulger, and unless I'm much mistaken that isn't proof of any crime or guilt on Mr. William Bulger's part. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.148.120 (talk) 04:23, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: He is probably Frank Salemme []JohnASantos (talk) 03:40, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frank Salemmi 

message: Hi, could anyone provide me with some evidence regarding the gang activity as the WHG apparently have 40-50 members and are still active? 
ThePlane11 (talk) 03:17, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I just posted the same in a redirect's talk page- granted you could have copycats and people calling themselves the "Winter Hill Gang", but for all intents and purposes, I don't see anything to suggest they're still active. Boston certainly has organized crime, certainly Irish organized crime in the same locales as WH, but I'm not seeing even rumors about the purported current leader "Georgie Boy" Hogan after 2012. Maybe there's an FBI source that can confirm this? --Simtropolitan (talk) 17:26, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a 2016 opinion piece in the Herald by conservative pundit Howie Carr, but sounds like we're talking about a number of senior members (in every sense of the word) that are either in jail or just released. Doesn't really point in one direction or another.--Simtropolitan (talk) 17:39, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evidence of gang still active?