Talk:List of English words of Spanish origin

message: There is a lot of dispute on 'potato' in the list of English words of foreign origin. Remove if appropriate.  I believe it came from a carribean island colonized by the Spaniards. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jondel  (talk • contribs) 00:27, 18 May 2004
It came from Spanish reintepretation of the original quechua word... In Spanish Papa and Patata exist as words, Batata is sometimes used instead of Yuca or Camote (I do not know which of either, Batata is used in Argentina's Spanish, in Peru the words used are Papa, Yuca and Camote; The three refering to different species just as Batata is a different species from Patata). Herle King 23:57, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Potato

message: some words that are Portuguese, loans to Spanish: mulatto (from Mulato), Siesta (from Sesta). -Pedro 23:18, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Siesta

message: Royal -> Real estate. - Everything used to be owned by Royalty. You only paid to borrow it. Actually, nobody owns land. Only the government. The government only leases to land/property owners. --Jondel 00:40, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Royal real

message: Sanskrit:Narangi=>Persian=>Arabic=> Ancient French (une naranj    became=>Old to Modern French: a une orangje  )=> (The n transfered, liasoned or disappeared as customary in french speech: une naranj-> une orange ) The orange came into into English during the Norman French colonization of England. The naranja of Spanish also came by way of Arabic.--Jondel 01:25, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Orange

message: According to DRAE (dictionary of the Royal Spanish Academy), the Spanish word mulato arises from mulo < Latin mulus; hybrid. 
FWIW, — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ejrrjs  (talk • contribs) 01:49, 2 November 2004
No Portugese then? (Latin :mulus->Spanish :mulato). The mulus is mule, the hybrid of a horse and donkey.  It most probably  come from slave traders (Spanish or Portugese)  --Jondel 01:58, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Mulato

message: In List of English words of Portuguese origin there are several other words (albino, caldera, ...) that came from Spanish, if we have to believe Merriam-Webster online. 
Ejrrjs 02:41, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Portuguese vs Spanish

message: Most words seem to come from Mexican Spanish into the United States.--Jondel 03:00, 2 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: United States

message: It would be smoother if all entries were listed in this order:
;Chocolate : from Spanish, from Nahuatl xocolatl
;Comrade :from French camarade, from Spanish camarada
the older source being ----> last. 'Chocolate' entered English from Spanish, not from Nahuatl. It entered Spanish from Nahuatl. So English>Spanish>Nahuatl. Most are already in this order, but many are not. The words that are simply from Spanish are already listed correctly, of course. Decius 01:20, 17 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the effort. I'm afraid though that the standard in etymology is to use A < B to mean A descends from B. :Ejrrjs | What? 21:41, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

text: Yeah, it's backwards. The > is kind of like an arrow, meaning the word went from the language on the blunt end to the language on the pointy end. Nohat 23:17, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)

text: I've fixed them now, though I might add that both < and the word from are not necessary (the former implying the latter). I'd say just skip the somewhat technical < symbol and just stick with from. Dictionaries use < to save on space. We have no such limitation here. Nohat 23:25, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Establishing direction

message: Is it worth to list geographical names? I've added Philipines because it was non obvious, but the rest? BTW Spanish and Spain themselves are not loans from Spanish; in fact, they were imported into Spanish from Provençal: 
:Castro, Américo: Sobre el nombre y el quién de los españoles, Biblioteca de la Historia, Sarpe, 1985, 
Ejrrjs | What? 15:00, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Countries, cities and the like

message: Removed:
:, from Swahili dinga, ="seizure"
Diccionario Critico Etimológico Castellano e Hispánico says that Spanish dengue is "from expressive creation".
--Error 3 July 2005 03:39 (UTC)
Expressive creation????????????? That ahs no single word in Spanish, even less "Dengue" The word is non-Spanish, I'm a first-language Spanish speaker and attest so...Herle King 00:10, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dengue

message: I don't think that Wiktionary:Transwiki:List of Spanish expressions in common English should be merged to List of English words of Spanish origin, as suggested by Ejrrjs.   As the top of the former page says "Here are some words or phrases from the Spanish that are sometimes used in English slang, but have not entered the standard lexicon."  There is a difference between the two lists, namely that the latter contains words that are commonly found in dictionaries, et al.
--Kewp (t) 14:09, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I didn't see discussion on Talk:List of Spanish expressions in common English. Can we remove the merge tags?--Kewp (t) 14:11, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine, I'll do it Ejrrjs | What? 16:58, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Merging

message: I *might* agree that wiktionary is the right place for this once:
*wiktionary has this info (as I write there are only 15 words in the corresponding category).
*a proper entry is written here noting, at least, that there are many words in English from Spanish, and that several of them were originally from native languages 
*ditto for the similar German, Latin, Greek, etc. list to show that there is no bias against Spanish and/or French.
Otherwise, deleting this only serves to increase entropy.
So, put your gun down and get yourself involved, or leave this entry alone.
Ejrrjs | What? 07:27, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikipedia is not yada yada

message: Doesn't the fact that French and Spanish have the word "Comrade" imply that Comrade comes from Latin instead? However, German has the word "komrade", so it may be Germanic in origin. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.53.223.34  (talk • contribs) 06:29, 16 December 2005
*It's ultimately from Greek and hence doesn't belong here like half of this list.--Hraefen 06:32, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't forget as it has no relevance, or should we also track the protoIE root (hint: it's *kam)?. Camarada is a true Spanish innovation and it is worth mentioning it for the sake of those who care. User:Ejrrjs  says What? 18:27, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I hope that chastising me made feel you better, and thanks for pointing out Linguistic... However, I still think that that pages do not bring a better solution as it loses the "history" of the word; how would it handle filibuster? User:Ejrrjs  says What? 21:06, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I would go by "degrees of proximity" subcategories... I.e. "Words from Spanish origin" 1st degree/2nd degree and so on... And likewise in evry such "from said language". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.121.147.175 (talk) 00:08, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comrade

message: The process will begin now. This has nothing to do with Spanish, any more than it has to do with French or Persian. It is just counter to the protocol that has been established. I've been checking out Wiktionary of late, and I find that it is much more suited, as well as being the proper place for such a long list of words. Alexander 007 12:49, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine with me. You may also want to check Wiktionary:Transwiki:List of Spanish expressions in common English. Ejrrjs | What? 20:56, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: List erased once moved to Wiktionary

message: According to Etymonline,  Spanish Sabe is a plausible source for Savvy. User:Ejrrjs  says What? 09:11, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: savvy

message: I have capitalized the beginning of each word as per the general convention in a dictionary entry. --Bhadani 14:42, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Capitalized

message: I've gone through the list, checking some of the etymologies that I found suspect with the OED. Where I've found them not to be of Spanish origin I've removed them. Dewrad 00:56, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good work. Did you see this reference? http://www.etymonline.com/ It may help. User:Ejrrjs  says What? 06:28, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fact-Checking

message: Please visit below webpages.
*arsenal
http://clave.librosvivos.net/verficha.asp?idelementoaver=3523&cadena=arsenal
On the page you can notice following phrase. "ETIMOLOGÍA: Del italiano arsenale."
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/arsenal.html
On the page you can notice following phrase. "[Early 16th century. Directly or via French < Italian arzanale < Venetian Italian arzaná < Arabic dār-(aṣ-)ṣinā'a "workshop, factory"]"
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/arsenal?view=uk
On the page you can notice following phrase. "— ORIGIN French, or obsolete Italian arzanale, from an Arabic phrase meaning house of industry."
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=arsenal
On the page you can notice following phrase. "Etymology: Italian arsenale, ultimately from Arabic dAr sinA'a house of manufacture"
*casanova
http://www.britannica.com/ebc/article-9359937
On the page you can notice following phrase. "Italian ecclesiastic, writer, soldier, spy, and diplomatist."
*corridor
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/corridor.html
On the page you can notice following phrase. "[Late 16th century. Via French < Italian corridore < Latin currere "to run"]"
http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/corridor?view=uk
On the page you can notice following phrase. "— ORIGIN Italian corridore, alteration of corridoio ‘running-place’."
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?book=Dictionary&va=corridor
On the page you can notice following phrase. "Etymology: Middle French, from Italian dialect (N Italy) corridore, from correre to run, from Latin currere"
*yum-yum
http://encarta.msn.com/dictionary_/yummy.html
On the page you can notice following phrase. "[Late 19th century. < yum, an imitation of the sound of smacking the lips]"
http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionary?va=yum-yum
On the page you can notice following phrase. "Function: interjection"
http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=yummy
On the page you can notice following phrase. "Yum-yum as an exclamation of pleasure is recorded from 1878." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.15.77.114 (talk) 10:27, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth, the Online Etymology Dictionary agrees on all four points. Good work. --Miskwito 18:23, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good work indeed. I can't believe I missed "casanova"... Dewrad 18:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: etymologies of "arsenal, casanova, corridor, yum-yum"

message: from Arabic, thru Old Spanish and Italian. See http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?search=artichoke&searchmode=none and Artichoke.User:Ejrrjs  says What? 14:10, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Artichoke]]

message: Is quadroon really Spanish in origin?  The spelling looks more French and the expression is from Louisiana.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.230.141.72 (talk) 23:19, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Quadroon

message: 'Carajo' is NOT a euphemism for 'Penis'
:wikt:carajo thinks it is. A good citation would be ideal though. -- Quiddity (talk) 21:48, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Carajo

message: We have a long paragraph listing where Spanish got words, and even explaining the events of 1492!  Seems to me it can be replaced by a single sentence, something like "Most these words came to English from Castilian and American Spanish dialects, which in turn got them from various sources."   Jim.henderson (talk) 01:03, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Uniquely Spanish

message: I'm quite surprized "cerveza" isn't on this list; growing up in SW Florida (Naples), I can attest that at least here, it is exchangeable with "beer". 
:~Maiya78 10:40, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Cervezas, anyone?

message: Some of these words can be categorized as mock Spanish and should be removed. Cerveza, adios etc... Asilah1981 (talk) 06:05, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Mock Spanish