Talk:Cape lion

message: We need sources that the Cape Lion is about the size of the African Lion. It has been rumoured to have been larger or heavier in many books. And we certainly need a source for 'heaviest Cape lion 270 kg'
:::That is what I also thought...--Altaileopard 19:32, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As with Barbary lions, Cape lions are African lions, it is that they were morphologically distinct subpopulations of African lions belonging to different subspecies, which are referred to as the 'northern' and 'southern' subspecies. Leo1pard (talk) 04:23, 29 September 2018 (UTC)

text: The Panthera leo is the largest of the African cats with males achieving a mass of between 200 and 240 kg;females are lighter at 125 kg,meaning the Cape lion is,of course,the largest lion to have lived. At least it was before becoming extinct,sadly. Sonwabiso Pongoshe (talk) 15:26, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size 

message: Changed its conservation status from 'Extinct in the Wild' into 'Extinct'. There is no scientific evidence that some genetic pure individuals survive in captivity. And removed the IUCN image, as this subspecies is not listed in the IUCN Red List of Threatened Species. Peter Maas\talk 18:07, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extinct 

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message: So what has this case to do with felid taxonomy? The authors of this article did NOT raise this question even once. They did neither mention the word 'subspecies' nor did they propose a trimonen for these captive lions. Are you up to prove the revision wrong? or unprofessional? or not having taken into account all peer-reviewed publications that you happen to know? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 14:31, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Question solved, the genetic situation of the Ethiopian lion, besides others, is troublesome for the way that the Cat Specialist Group reclassified subspecies of lions. Like you said here, big cats do not care about how man defines regions, so it is not like P. l. melanochaita cares about being confined to Eastern or Southern Africa, or that P. l. leo cares about being confined to Northern, Western or Central Africa. In short, it is not like the two groups of lions care about the CSG's reclassification. Leo1pard (talk) 17:51, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethiopian lion 

message: : If you thought that the IUCN was being strict about its reclassification, or unanimous, then think again, because, apart from what I mentioned above, they said:
: 1) About the lion (http://www.catsg.org/index.php?id=108, http://www.catsg.org/index.php?id=113): "Afterwards the lion was divided into two subspecies: the African lion (Panthera leo leo) and the Asiatic lion (Panthera leo persica). However, more recent studies indicate that lions from Asia and West and Central Africa are more closely related to each other than to lions from Eastern and Southern Africa. These two main divisions of lions are not homogeneous as there is genetic subdivision within each, with more genetic variation and deeper divergences within the Eastern and Southern branch than within the Asian plus West and Central African one. Based on these recent genetic studies, two subspecies of the lion are recognised:
: Panthera leo leo in Central and West Africa and India, formerly throughout North Africa, South-East Europe, the Middle East, Arabian Peninsula and South-West Asia
: Panthera leo melanochaita in southern and eastern Africa. 
: The contact zone between the two subspecies lies somewhere in Ethiopia."
: 2) About the tiger (http://www.catsg.org/index.php?id=124): "However, based on recent studies, only two tiger subspecies are proposed (not confirmed)." Leo1pard (talk) 16:23, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Surprise 

message: Leo1pard (talk) 09:32, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: See this. Leo1pard (talk) 07:06, 10 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Bergmann's rule]] for lions 

message: As per WP:SEEALSO, you're not supposed to have links in the section "See also", if they are present above. Also, there is no need to put  around self-links. Leo1pard (talk) 04:45, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  See also 

message: Please see/contribute to discussion at Talk:Lion#Request_for_comment:_How_many_subpages? Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:28, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for comment