Talk:Martin Brodeur

message: I do believe that because Brodeur is such a unique goaltender, a section on his page should be devoted to his style of play.  I think that a minor section under career should talk about his stats versus certain players; this is something he himself often discusses.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bbmagic93 (talk • contribs) 14:56, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Style

message: In case you were wondering, I reverted most of your edits because a large portion of the information was either speculative/unsourced (the discussion of the "A" Line), or incorrect (Brodeur has won 3 Vezinas).  However, he has played 15 years and only made the All-Star Game 8 times (he was named to this year's team but opted not to play).Anthony Hit me up... 19:22, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  User:DesolesIII's edit 

message: I dont know how you all missed it, but since this article is locked I cant fix it.  In the final paragraph of "2004--Present," someone stuck a link to pest in front of Sean Avery's name. // 68.100.70.125 (talk) 17:26, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Additionally, I noticed that the pest link was appended with (ice hockey).  I'm not that terribly up on hockey lingo, but it still should be looked at with someone with a little more insight and knowledge // 68.100.70.125 (talk) 17:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay, I blew that one.  The proper link is pest (hockey), and I misinterpreted that.  Oops. The red-link should still be fixed, being a GA article and all. // 68.100.70.125 (talk) 17:29, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Made a redirect so the red-link is gone. --Michael Greiner 19:22, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV language

message: From the article: "Brodeur and Sean Avery refused to shake each other's hand."
Is this accurate? From what I remember, Avery extended his hand.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kingdomcarts (talk • contribs) 23:59, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: After looking at the video, I guess it's accurate. It's kinda hard to tell what's going on with Avery's hand, but they clearly both intended to skate right by each other. Nevermind, sorry.Kingdomcarts (talk) 20:05, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brodeur/Avery conflict 

message: OK, I seriously think with the record being tied last night, (hopefully) broken Tuesday night, and all the edits to the page trying to update the stats and whatnot, this page needs to be on serious lockdown between now & whenever the record is broken.  Otherwise we're going to deal with IP address vandals trying to throw in all kinds of nonsense (and pissed off Ranger fans still carrying an Avery grudge).  Just a thought to save us all a lot of grief. Anthony Hit me up... 16:34, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with the above comment.  While the introduction of a shootout certainly began a new "era" in the NHL, this can be said for any rule-change and the records broken subsequently.  For instance, thanks to the point for an overtime-loss, the overall number of points earned by teams is higher.  Any change in the number of games can do the same.  The NHL doesn't differentiate between shootout wins and regulation/overtime wins.  If they say "a win is a win is a win", then we should do the same. -Sme3 (talk) 03:10, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Record breaking efforts 

message: Why were the pictures moved around? The one in the red uniform looks better for the top - you can actually see his face. --Sportskido8 (talk) 18:02, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Because it's a side/backside photo that doesn't show him in game action or give us a look at his equipment. The current photo is pretty much the perfect free image. Y2kcrazyjoker4 (talk) 04:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I liked the older photo (the one Sportskido referred to) better.  You see his face with a calm, yet intense expression which is so characteristic of Brodeur.  Besides, the photos don't need to be action photos, take take a look at the Sean Avery page. sme3 (talk) 13:33, 18 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Well, in that case, we have a nice profile picture that's a free image of Avery from the front without any gear on, which is just as good a photo as one of him playing hockey. But the Brodeur photo in question is still a side shot - you can't see his gear, and his face is still more difficult to see. I mean, it's a good photo, but I think there are better alternatives available for an infobox photo. Y2kcrazyjoker4 (talk) 13:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why? 

message: Please stop edit warring. Take the next two weeks to discuss the disputes.  When you've reached some sort of consensus, feel free to ask me on my talk page or request unprotection at WP:RFUP. - Rjd0060 (talk) 17:03, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page protected 

message: Please delete the "543" after "W" in the header of this section. The number here certainly does not mean anything. Thanks. --Roged (talk) 06:29, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section "International" 

message: Is this really necessary? --Sportskido8 (talk) 14:38, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think so.  It says little about Brodeur versus other players - it just says he talks about them in his book.  If there were a Wikipedia article about "Beyond the Crease", it might belong there (not that I suggest one be created!).  It is interesting though, and it might be appropriate (in condensed form) in the paragraph about his book. -Sme3 (talk) 15:44, 6 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Cash, you added this same sentence to the article, and it has been reverted.  An encyclopedia is a place for facts, not analysis.  --Sme3 (talk) 12:22, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brodeur vs. Other Players? 

message: No.    — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dc2000 (talk • contribs) 23:11, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Related to another famous Canadian/Quebecois goalie Richard Brodeur ? 

message: An edit war is beginning to brew.  We know that Brodeur was born in Canada and recently became an American citizen -- he holds dual-citizenship.  But does this make him "Canadian American"?  According to the Wikipedia article on Canadian American, the term describes "an American of Canadian descent."  There is no reference to citizenship or birthplace.  (This, in the same way that the term "African American" refers to ancestry - the person may have never set foot in Africa).   Yet, I look at the Bobby Holik article, another player born outside of the USA that obtained American citizenship, and he is described as "Czech-American".  So, in the lead sentence, should we use the birthplace (Canadian), citizenship (Canadian-American), ancestry (Canadian), or current home (American)? Me Three (talk to me) 13:21, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canadian or Canadian-American? 

message: Hi, what about adding some information about Brodeur being the MVP of the decade in the NHL? I think it is a valuable fact and should be mentioned in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.100.136.166 (talk) 13:55, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The source here says he was selected "by a panel of NHL.com writers and other hockey experts."  Being on NHL.com, it bears credibility, but is it an official award or honor?  (Meaning: have there been any other MVP's of prior decades?).  I'd suggest you be bold and add it.  Just make sure you include the reference to the NHL.com site to give it credibility. Me Three (talk to me) 15:12, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: MVP of the decade in the NHL

message: A file used in this article, :File:Brodeurbook.jpg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.  --SkotyWATC 15:42, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  File:Brodeurbook.jpg listed for deletion 

message: I noticed this phrase -- "Brodeur is regarded as a brilliant chef and an engaging raconteur in his spare time.[8]" -- and the reference is effectively dead.  Also, using the term "chef" typically denotes a trained professional, not just "someone who cooks really well," although the word "chef" has essentially been deprecated enough to the point where it can mean that nowadays.  Wondering if that should be changed (both a term other than "chef" and the reference link itself). Crimson667 (talk) 12:57, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Life Section 

message: Why is there no updated picture from the press conference showing him with a Blues uniform on? It's his most recent team, that should be his2602:304:CFD3:2EE0:747C:4CF:F28D:A672 (talk) 07:50, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blues? 

message: There's a lot of unsourced content in here, which in itself would make it automatically fail a GAN/FAC if it was nominated today. The prose has some issues as well, and could use a copyedit which I think I can take care of at some point, but I'm sure I wouldn't have the time or motivation to go through and source the half of the article that needs it. Would anyone be interested in taking this one on? Gloss</span> 07:00, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I had thought the same thing when I watchlisted this article. This article was promoted in 2007. Standards have undoubtedly tightened since then, and the time has allowed what this article was to go to rot, to a degree. I don't have the time to fix it personally. I may put it up for review after the hockey season, if it's not better by then. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:17, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured Article issues 

message: Following the announcement of Brodeur's retirement, we're going to need someone to updated the small St Louis Blues section of the article, covering his leave of absence and his role in the front office. I'd do it but not too knowledgeable on the situation. I did however update the info bar and his career statistics to include his short tenure with the Blues.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spilia4 (talk • contribs) 18:43, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article update needed following retirement.  

message: Hello!
I've seen this page a few times, and, to be honest, I'm finding that I particularly like the 2006 photo of him, as it is a particularly striking pose, whereas the 2012 photo isn't nearly as striking. Both are excellent inclusions for the article, but, I find that, for the 'front page', so to speak, I prefer.
I've already made the swap, but what do you think? I'd like to see your answers before any reversions occur. Also, I'm trying to figure out how to replace the existing image with an enlarged version that I've prepared, as the current one is rather small. If someone can tell me how to do that, I'd greatly appreciate it, since this would qualify as a minor improvement per the guidelines.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Legacy (talk • contribs) 02:57, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you're right -- the 2006 photo is a better photo and also shows his name.  There are, however, two tiny ways that one might argue in favour of the 2012 photo: the 2012 photo is more recent and it also is more clear to a non-hockey fan that the 2012 photo is of a hockey goaltender.  All in all, I think the 2006 photo is better for the reasons that you mention. Sxg169 (talk) 17:23, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: True, though, on the subject of goaltending equipment, you can easily tell that the glove on his left hand, though mostly hidden, is unmistakably a goal-tending glove. That said, I'm glad we're in agreement. :) The Legacy (talk) 07:49, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
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