Talk:William II of the Netherlands

message: I removed the sentence about William being offered the throne of Belgium but declining under pressure of his father. I couldn't find any corroboration. Perhaps someone will reinstate it. This entry needs some trustworthy external links. Wetman 10:13, 25 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: In 1844, he sent a messge to Japan's Shogun urging Japan open her doors. It was Edo era. Would someone please write this? --220.111.69.67 (talk) 01:22, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A letter to Japan 

message: This infobox, besides looking like a gaudy wine label, doesn't have any practical use in the biography. It's a bit silly (and not at all reverent) to address a King of the Netherlands in English, especially when he has been in his tomb for a long time. I'm going to remove it, as (for instance) happened on the King Christian VIII of Denmark page. Glatisant (talk) 12:46, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monarchical Styles Infobox 

message: What is the basis for calling him a "Royal Highness" before 1815?  Is there any basis for the given styles at all? john k (talk) 21:57, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question, there's not. I have made some research and changed the section "Titles and styles". Demophon (talk) 23:46, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as including "And Grand Duke of Luxembourg" in the style, it is my understanding that except in Luxembourg, he would always have been referred to as simply "The King of the Netherlands."  My sense is also that he was predominantly referred to as "the King" even within Luxembourg.  This website, which is very useful for such matters, gives the following as William II's title in Luxembourg: "We, William II, by the grace of God king of the Netherlands, prince of Orange-Nassau, Grand Duke of Luxembourg, etc. etc. etc."  So in Luxembourg itself the Luxembourg title is actually mentioned after not only the Netherlands title, but the Orange-Nassau title.  I don't see any evidence that anyone ever called him "His Majesty the King of the Netherlands and Grand Duke of Luxembourg."  Obviously he was grand duke of Luxembourg separately from being King of the Netherlands, but that's not the same thing as what his style was.  john k (talk) 03:51, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Styles 

message: The article currently reads:
:He showed personal courage and energy, but frequently displayed atrocious military judgement, leading to many heavy casualties (some historians believe he exposed infantry in line to cavalry three times during the course of the Battle of Waterloo). The Duke of Wellington attributed this to his lack of command experience, however, rather than to his being a bad leader.
On 24 December 2010 an IP editor suggested "(Bernard Cornwell (Waterloo)" as a source.  This book is a work of fiction, published in the USA as England as Waterloo and in the UK as Sharpe's Waterloo.  There is a TV programme based on this book.  It is not a reliable source.
If nobody can provide a reliable source for these allegations by January 2011, I will move them to a section entitled In fiction, with a explanation of what happened in real life according to reliable sources
Posters are right to demand historical sources, not novels, but they agree his lethal incompetence and juvenile ego got many men killed. This so-called "General," after all, was all of 23 at Waterloo, and held his title only out of deference to his royal blood. It was his first real battle. Still, he tried to play general, during the battle's confusion late that day. There is one particularly awful story of him petulantly ordering hundreds of men to certain death, just to save face. Eminent historian David Howarth's Waterloo: Day of Battle gives it in convincing detail. The neophyte had mistaken French cavalry for his own, and when he was corrected, the young man flushed, and ordered troops to follow his initial command anyway. They were all dead in five minutes. Their commander, fighting with his nephews beside him, pushed them back to save their lives, but followed orders and charged to his death. Howarth devotes two pages to it, reconstructing it from the many witnesses who published books later. I take it the incompetent prince matured into a decent king during peacetime, but to make him a hero of Waterloo, really, that's too much. Profhum (talk) 04:34, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allegations about the battles of Quatre Bras and Waterloo 

message: First of all, that is not a title. One could also make up something like "Husband of the sixth daughter of the Emperor of All Russias", call it a title and create a succession box for it. Prince of Orange is a title, a title he bore as heir apparent, and as such it has an appropriate succession box. Secondly, the succession box is misleading. He only became heir to the throne upon his father's death. Prior to that, he was heir apparent (meaning that it was apparent that he would become heir, i.e. that he would inherit). That is the meaning of the English word heir. Surtsicna (talk) 20:37, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It would help if you got your facts straight. When his father died, William II had already been king for just over three years. 62.238.249.71 (talk) 19:20, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Heir to the Dutch throne" 

message: Hi a question please
 He is a king but in his categories he is put as and lgbt head of goverments also with him being lgbt heads of state So is this right As a king he is a head of goverment How is that Can you please clarify if u dont mind And thx 
The editor who put that back in 2013 is with the name and we drown
And he has been absent from wikipedia since 2013 
So is he lgbt heads of state or goverment or both because no other kings are put like that
Only him?? So?? AdamPrideTN (talk) 22:17, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the category LGBT heads of goverment accurate?? 

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