Talk:Nickelback/Archive 1

message: The description of the nickelback "song" (I use the term loosely) rockstar has changed to infer that the song is a sarcastic "attack" on commercialism, when in actuallity it is the musical equivelant of a rich kid saying he has everything he ever wanted without having to work to get it.
That's your opinion. 141.158.151.206 13:02, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: SARCASTIC?

message: I don't know if anyone else noticed but the paragraph"style" is biased.  However, when I tried to edit it, it shows something completely different.  Why?
Every two years, Nickleback likes to release songs that sounds just the previous ones that had been released. Please see http://www.nicklebacksucks.com.
This quote sounds biased to me.  I'm going to delete it but I'll paste this message here, just in case if it's not.
As with many bands, Nickelback's lyrics deal mostly with shitty music...
I'm not that familiar with the band - but is this entry correct? --Nephandus 17:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Biased?

message: *Seems to be sloppy and uncited.  Anyone? TheDavesr 23:31, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Live Shows 

message: By the way, take a look at Good Charlotte's page. Obviously that band has a lot of critics, but the page is very well done in terms of being neutral. This page needs that more.
Is it me, or is this page a battle between pro and anti- Nickelbackers? By the way, I have never heard Chad Kroeger mention anything about Led Zeppelin and would appreciate to have some proof of him comparing Nickelback to Zeppelin. 205.238.205.220 09:12, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticisms 

message: The criticisms section of this article is unduly long. This article is about the band, not their critics. I'm planning to pare it down and keep a brief summary in its stead if there are no heartfelt objections. The section also cites no sources and is 99.9% weasel words like "critics argue" and "opponents suggest" and other sourceless potshots. Vincent Valentine 20:33, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticisms 

message: This article seems to advocate Nickelback (and I am a fan), particularly in the Criticisms section. It reads like an answer to Nickelback's critics.  Also, the song commentary in the section on the new drummer isn't appropriate to the section, and possibly not appropriate at all, since wikipedia isn't the forum for song analysis.--Esprit15d 13:54, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Speaking of which, I suggest, for multiple reasons, a summary of the AMG review.  What's there is too long, and I've better things to do over changing it myself. :) Drdr1989 22:54, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: Is there any concern that this section uses too much text directly copied from www.allmusic.com? Wikipedia frowns upon plagerism. Would this section just be improved by using keywords of criticism from the All Music article?
:I agree, the quote is bloody huge and serves little purpose but the author seemed lazy. Also the criticisms section is ridiculously large when compared to the size of the overall article. This alone seems rather biased to me. I mean the article has only basic factual data on the band and then dives headlong into criticisms which take up nearly half the article. Thoughts? -Vincent.
:: They're valid criticisms. — NRen2k5 23:06, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticisms

message: Um i added that there latest album went double platinum and this can be proven by the album
charts on billboard.please check and varify.
:Great.  Well, read up on WP:CITE and resubmit your change, this time citing it.  Thanks.  --Yamla 20:07, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Sales

message: can we clear up this drummer thing. some anonymous users keep changing the drummer. who is the current drummer and who is past?--Alhutch 04:38, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  drummer 

message: can we clear up this drummer thing. some anonymous users keep changing the drummer. who is the current drummer and who is past?--Alhutch 04:38, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  drummer 

message: He's mentioned in the sentences about the Portugal debacle (the only reason I came to this page, since I know next to nothing about this band). I guess he's a former member. I'll leave it to those of you who know about him to add info on him as appropriate.
:He's a former drummer. He seems to have been removed from most of the article. I think he was kicked out of the band and now they don't want anything to do with him. Matt "AgentA" 23:37, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who's "Vikedal"? 

message: Seeing as this is a canadian band, does anyone have any numbers on how well their songs have done on the canadian charts?
Is there really a difference between nu-grunge and post-grunge?
Nu-grunge carries a more negative connotation. 141.158.151.206 13:05, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canada 

message: Hi all today i decided to rant on about this band here instead of vandelizing the article. First of all i apologize for doing so for many times but i am fed up of this band. Bands like Nickelback is holding back unknown bands who are probably more talented then nickelback. What we do need is another band to start a brand new era of rock just like Nirvana have done in the early 90's.
:bands like Nickelback are making songs and throwing them on a cd.  people purchasing the cd and radio requests is what makes them popular.  if you're tired of hearing the band then tell everyone to stop purchasing their cds.  somehow i doubt it will work, buckwheat.
:That's as maybe, but the talk page isn't really a place to put these sort of views either - try PunkTastic or the like! HawkerTyphoon 01:25, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  this band's full of copycats 

message: (The name derived from the nickel in change Mike Kroeger frequently had to give customers back in his job at a Starbucks coffee shop in which he would, almost trademarkingly say, Here's your Nickel Back.)
Ok this section really should be taken care of especially the "almost trademarkingly" part. That really doesn't seem encyclopedic. I will change that myself actually and I hope no one minds. Bill102 00:16, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big Point of View problem 

message: I noticed the myspace link doesn't work. Is that a glitch or did they indeed sever ties with myspace? If so, link should probably be removed. Siyavash 14:10, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They still have a MySpace site, it just used to be at a different location. bob rulz 00:38, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No more myspace site? 

message: This explain it all
http://www.ejbdotcom.net/content/14780/Nickleback_rocked_on_stage.html MetalBladeX4 00:12, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rocked on stage

message: I fixed the infobox to be as true as I am aware of it to be; however, this page needs massive cleanup. I'm going to tag it with a cleanup and weasel words tag, and maybe a NPOV warning tag. Sephylight 10:07, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Needs Cleanup

message: The Nickelback site changes very fast. When I first read it in June, it seemed fair and unbiased. There was also a standard photo of the band to show the readers who was being presented. Background, Hits and also the criticism of self plagiarism and direct links to back the comments up. 
Which is where the problem lies... (For all the comments that follow I can provide links-please forgive me for not doing that at this time).. 
Critics have slammed Nickelback for - to those who have read many reviews - what appears to amount to the crime of being "too late post grunge seen it before and better."
Nickelback have a worldwide following and a proven track record of albums sold. Excluding "Someday" and "How you remind me" There are hits like "Animals","Figured you out" Too Bad", "Never again", "Saving Me" Which no-one has accused of sounding similar to other Nickelback songs or those of any band.
Other criticism has been reserved for these songs..Animals- "Over produced",Figured you out- "Cheap and dirty lyrics", Too Bad- "An attempt to link into the success of How you remind me",
Never again - "An old tired issue", Saving Me - "Over produced and radio music"
So how is the site to be improved if the critics both professional and unprofessional and the fans who are very serious in their support- As a non radical member of the Nickelback forum - I can testify to this - are allowed to edit this page with impunity?
I would suggest breaking the page down into clear sections and moderating the input very closely
Photo, Introduction, Background, History, Hits, Highlights, Lowlights, Criticism, Albums and sales, News, Links.
--Nighthawkx15 19:16, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nickelback invite controversy 

message: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/d7/Logoniclback.jpg/200px-Logoniclback.jpg
A good first step would be to take this off--172.177.249.99 19:36, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo down 

message: Why don't we move the "Discography" section to Nickelback discography? No-Bullet 03:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discography

message: LETS THINK CLEARLY HERE, is NICKELBACK Really worthy of WIKIPEDIA/IMPORTANT ENOUGH FOR WIKIPEDIA!
:Um, yeah? Dragonfly888 12:02, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Near as I can tell you're the only one not thinking clearly, Mr. Annonymous. --Ferdia O'Brien 02:40, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  COME ON!