Talk:Port Mann Bridge

message: The original text and photo were lifted from Buckland and Taylor Engineering. I'll work on bring this page up to snuff. Cacophony 07:13, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
:hmmmm, some of that text has since reappeared.  I took it out again.  Cacophony 08:26, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Should there be two separate articles? Prowsej (talk) 19:58, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: New vs. Old Bridge

message: "This and the fact that the northbound approach span merges three lanes of traffic into one mean that the Port Mann Bridge is highly congested during rush hour."... sort of is making a point about buses being superior to cars. I think a cite for the lack of a bus route specifically being the cause of congestion might be in order. ++++Lar: t/c 04:46, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV? 

message: Wikipedia is generally a great resource but this article is an example of where it fails.  Dramatically.  The discussion of the "controversy" is clearly written by someone favourable to the opponents of the new bridge.  Is the new bridge "very controversial"?  I think not.  The number of commuters going across it each day is enormous and anyone stuck in the line-up to get on the bridge is clearly in support of an expanded bridge.  I realize that there are opponents but most of these people are part of a tiny Radical Left portion of society.  Rwerner 09:57, 6 February 2009
I agree -in spirit- but in fairness the best approach would be to provide the other perspective vs. simply criticizing Wikipedia because of its open source roots. It could be said that the opponents to twinning are not necessarily or fairly labelled as 'fringe radical left' elements - as the major media report their viewpoints frequently and it is a common perspective in certain areas of Metro Vancouver. 
Perhaps more fairly it could also be said ...
' Proponents for the twinning of the bridge point out that the bridge is no longer capable of handling the traffic it does today (built in 1964) and that frequent daily traffic jams are evidence of this fact. A recent study by the Ministry of Transportation found a majority (56%) support public support the twinning of the bridge.'
http://www2.news.gov.bc.ca/news_releases_2005-2009/2006TRAN0020-000748.htm
00:04, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As controversial the project may be, Wikipedia promotes a neutral point of view. This means that out-rightly proclaiming in the lede that the article is highly controversial is a biased perspective. From the Straight article, it seems that you have a conflict of interest with the articles related to the Gateway Program. It's fine if you want to contribute to Wikipedia, but you must do so from a neutral perspective. Neutrality would include mentioning the groups opposed to the NFPR, and mentioning that the mayor of Coquitlam supports the NFPR.    █ EMARSEE 07:04, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Very Controversial" ? 

message: Several paragraphs have been removed from this article without sufficient explanation.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 154.20.83.221 (talk) 00:39, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of Paragrpahs 

message: Intro: "The main span is: 366 m (1,201 ft) plus the two 110 m (360 ft) spans on either side.",
whereas Infobox: "Longest span 	603 m"
[it says the main span WAS, not is. Very confusing as 366 m was the main span of the old bridge]
What does the "Longest span" refer to?
[main span of 470 m between the towers plus north and south approaches, only a minority of which are cable-stay. This is PR from bridge promoters and not the way bridges are measured or ranked]
Tony Ho (talk) 05:36, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Span Length 

message: Told to me first hand the son of the engineer was the first to cross the span.
The car used was the family car.  It was driven across very shortly after the deck was complete.
I haven't been able to find any corroboration but I am trying.
Has anyone else heard this?  The engineer's son would qualify as a civilian.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Malachite36 (talk • contribs) 06:11, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Person to Cross the Old Port Mann 

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message: Is there an explanation for replacing the bridge?  After all, the old bridge was only 45 years old, and seemed to be in good condition.  Does BC have money to burn? Santamoly (talk) 07:49, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. The reason was it was reaching its life expectancy and at two lanes, its capacity. That should be explained in the article though. Walter Görlitz (talk) 14:05, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reason for replacing the bridge? 

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message: This article claims the new bridge has 2nd longest span for this type of bridge in North America, with no reference supporting that claim. I removed that text from the lead, as there is no support. The claim remains in the article text, with citation needed flag. If a source can be found, then the fact is appropriate for the lead. There is a ref in lead about Widest Bridge, which is San Francisco-Oakland Bay Bridge in the Guinness World Records. I think this bridge is second, but I may be wrong. Another clear and current source is needed. Text has a wiki link to the article on bridges ranked by length if span, but why? This bridge is not named in a list of 77 bridges in the world. China uses this type of bridge in many places, with long spans. It is a grand bridge, and save for these unsupported claims, it is a good article on the prior bridge, need for new bridge, construction and deconstruction.  - - Prairieplant (talk) 12:28, 19 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second longest span?