Talk:Helmuth von Moltke the Elder

message: I wonder if this article should be moved to Helmuth Graf von Moltke. He's better known as Count Moltke than H.K.B. von Moltke...  Mackensen (talk) 01:46, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I second that, because i dont think Helmuth von Moltke "the elder" is formal.  Its ok with Pliny the Elder cause thats what he has always been called; but this Moltke came before the other one(the younger), so he was never referenced as the elder of anyone.  Ill go ahead with it, and if anyone has a problem with it, they can undo it and talk about it on the talk page.  Xlegiofalco 21:50, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Ok, nevermind then.  I will wait for more input before moving.  Xlegiofalco 22:19, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

message: Should it be "Chief of the Prussian General Staff," not the German General Staff?  Sca 15:40, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: General Staff

message: My high school history teacher (who is now a full professor of history at Fordham University in New York) contended that Moltke the Elder died believing he was pregnant with an elephant.  I know, this sounds absurd, and I am not aware of a published source for this information (which is why I place it on the discussion page rather than editing the encyclopedic entry).  If anyone is engaged in updating this page, please be alert for verification for this factoid, which would make a wonderful addition!  Many thanks.
70.160.101.254 22:31, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your teacher has apparently confused Moltke with Gebhard Leberecht von Blücher. Nevfennas 05:59, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mental Illness at death?

message: Holstein was never a Danich province.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.145.89.65 (talk) 11:05, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Holstein

message: Why should it be noted? The allied (German) forces were sent by the German Federation (Deutscher Bund). This was a political German entity, although not a German (national) state in the modern sense.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.221.53.30 (talk) 21:49, 3 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: It should be noted that at this point 'Germany' was a geographic term and not a political entity

message: "Moltke is perhaps most famous in modern officer corps for being mis-attributed as author of a novel categorization of officers." That's pretty ridiculous and, even if Enzenberger should have written something like this, not sufficiently sourced. " The quote", which "is actually from Kurt von Hammerstein-Equord", reads quite different in his article (and Moltke is not mentioned there either). The quote allegedly mis-attributed to Moltke is also not mentioned in :de:Helmuth Karl Bernhard von Moltke.  --Vsop.de (talk) 21:18, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "perhaps most famous ... for being mis-attributed as author ..." 

message: The whole sentence fragment alluding to Moltke's use of blue for friendly forces has nothing to do with the modern phrase "blue-on-blue".  This silly comment on friendly fire should be removed from this article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.183.235.146 (talk) 01:53, 10 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "blue-on-blue" 

message: Substituted at 17:37, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

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message: Under the heading "Service with the Ottoman Empire", the second sentence of the third paragraph states "Early the next year he [Moltke] married a young English woman, Maria Bertha Helena Burt, the daughter of John Heyliger Burt esq. of St. Croix in the Danish West Indies, who married his sister Augusta." (emphasis added)  As written, it appears to suggest that either Moltke or Burt married their own sister. Could someone please make sense of this and restate this information without the confusing use of pronouns? Thank you. Bricology (talk) 21:38, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Who married his sister" 

message: Would it be appropriate to include a recording of Moltke's voice in the article (which was recorded on a phonograph in 1889)? Someone Not Awful (talk) 11:36, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moltke's voice