Talk:List of Pokémon characters

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Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline. Ikip (talk) 12:00, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters

message: He deserves a page, or at least a photo.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Knowledgeabletome (talk • contribs) 04:26, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miror B 

message: The Elite Four Members are all notable enough to have their own page. All the other randoms can stay on this page, but there should be a page just for Elite Four Members. It would make this page less bulky and would give these important game characters the fame they deserve. 2D Backfire Master (talk) 15:56, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As you can see from the above discussion, I did make a page for the E4, but I ended up just merging it here after fixing it up. Without them there really arent many characters unique to this list. If you find some good sources about them that let them warent an article, then go ahead. The list would look alot better without it, but without the E4 on this list, it wont have many characters here that make the list need an article.  Blake (Talk·Edits) 22:14, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Page 4 the Elite 4 

message: Shouldn't the Elite Four for each region be split into a separate article like we've done for the Gym Leaders? --70.129.186.69 (talk) 02:05, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If they would be split anywhere it would be into one article. They dont appear as much as the Gym leaders do. They really don't have anymore sources then the Gym Leaders do though. As you can see from the above discussions, I tried to fix this article but it never went anywhere. Blake (Talk·Edits) 02:12, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elite Four 

message: "Including, but not limited to" is lawyer-speak and is unnecessary since "including" implies additional items already. --Unimath (talk) 16:03, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  including, but not limited to 

message: You never fight or even compete with him or her, so calling Lucas and Dawn rivals doesn't make much sense.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.87.156.246 (talk) 11:56, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: They are what is called psudo-rivals. They don't really antagonize you, but you still rival with them. Blake (Talk·Edits) 14:49, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rowan's assistant isn't a true rival 

message: The conceited fan does not know that English version is localized version. 61.214.5.118 (talk) 07:49, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: We do not need to use the word "localized" on this article to refer to the English version. It can just be called the "English version". The word "original" has been retained for the Japanese version, however.—Ryulong (竜龙) 09:19, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  localized is localized. Original is Original. 　Educate common sense. 

message: Correct me if I'm wrong but the rival for Sinnoh region had no default name. Its random and not just "Barry" appeared on the selection. Just because the anime says that his name is 'Barry' then why should we name him Barry here? Barry is his name in the anime but not in-game. Bleubeatle (talk) 07:49, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind I read it again. But why put "Barry" there when he really doesn't have a default name? Is it right to put his anime name instead? Bleubeatle (talk) 07:51, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: What name should be put instead? Are you saying we should call him "that one dude"? If a name should be picked, Barry isn't a bad choice. Blake (Talk·Edits) 14:43, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sinnoh Rival is named "Barry"? 

message: I find it repetitive to mention characters like Cheren and Wallace in more than 2 sections. Why can't we just state other information about them becoming Gym Leaders or Champions in their own section? Only put those characters that are new to the game's series. Like for Black & White 2's gym leaders, was it really necessary to mention Elesa under there as well? We were only talking about the Gym leaders of the Unova region. I reckon we should only put Roxie/Homika and Shuizu because they are the only new characters that are introduced into the region of Unova for Pokemon Black & White 2. Bleubeatle (talk) 06:07, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if we do that it will look like we have missing information. Is it that bad to have a line that says "X is a gym leader in this game, too" when discussing the characters from that subsequent game?—Ryulong (竜龙) 07:06, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  No I don't think its bad. But because we already mentioned "X" character in another section it will look like we are talking about another character of the same name. It will end up looking like we are talking about 2 different characters instead of 1. Besides this page is about the list of characters in the Pokémon world. Not the list of who's the gym leaders, champions, etc. in each game. Bleubeatle (talk) 01:45, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Not if it's blatantly clear that we are referring to the same character as elsewhere on the page.—Ryulong (竜龙) 06:29, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-mentioning names on different sections 

message: This article is mostly redundant to the list. There seem to be some missing that should be merged over, while much of the info is overly bloated and unnecessary to keep. TTN (talk) 16:39, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see why not.—Ryulong (琉竜) 16:45, 24 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree: This is article is not about individual characters but about organisations. Retartist (talk) 10:08, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This article could contain the main characters of said organizations perfectly easily instead of the massive list that the syndicate page currently contains.—Ryulong (琉竜) 11:04, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Pokémon crime syndicates]] 

message: should anyone add the characters who appear in Masters (so far we have Paulo, Bellis, Team Break and the nurse trio)? I don't see any info regarding Lear, Rachel and Sawyer... On an unrated note, is it possible to list characters' voice actors from Masters? It seems to be the first official speaking appearance for all who appear in it... Visokor (talk) 09:50, 28 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  characters from Masters 

message: 1. HGSS art director Takao Unno (who designed Lyra) has said himself she was designed from scratch.
2. Kris and Lyra appear as completely separate characters in Pokemon Masters. If you want to act like you have more authority than the Pokemon Company, go nuts but your personal headcanons will not be taken as fact here.
3. "Gold" was never the canon name of the GSC protagonist. 
4. The Pokemon Masters twitter page clearly said "Ethan from Pokemon Gold and Silver", not Gold.
5. If "Gold" appears as a separate character in Pokemon Masters, you will have a point. Until then do not revert again or we will take this further.
6. Lastly stop writing irrelevant waffle about anime counterparts. Ethan being called "Jimmy" and then appearing later as Ethan is not evidence of "Gold" and "Ethan" being separate. Jimmy was simply what they called him as he had no canon name yet and they weren't gonna call him Gold for the same reason they didn't call Ash "Red".— Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevenbfg (talk • contribs) 22:48, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  To the user who keeps claiming Kris and Lyra are the same character and who keeps reverting Ethan to "Gold". 

message: i saw that nurse joy and the clerks from pmex were there but not jenny :(
22:32, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  can somebody add officer jenny to 'trainer classes'? 

message: Hey guys, I'm not usually a Pokemon guy, but I just through a bunch of anchors in this page from broken redirects and editing a couple of the redirect pages as well. (There were over 100 so I tried to do some anchors instead of editing every one of the redirects). Again, not a pokemon hu, but I found the following list of articles that don't seem to be mentioned here. I through the  on those pages. Feel free to change what I did,  but I wanted to draw your guys' attention to these. 
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Thanks for yall's great work on wikipedia! Signed, I Am Chaos (talk) 04:38, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some work I just did 

message: Rika is the Ground type member, Poppy is the steel type member, Larry is the Flying type member, and Hassel is the Dragon type member. The Top Champion is Geeta. I have played the game so I know this, so they need to get added in to the Pokémon League section. And for the other characters section, Arven and Penny are important characters in Scarlet and Violet and they need to get added in.Hackecas001 (talk) 05:06, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Paldea Elite Four(and more) 

message: I don't think the ace pokemon of some of these characters is important. The average person looking at this list woudl probably have no clue what an "ace" pokemon even is. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:19, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been a Pokemon fan for a while and never heard the term. It feels like an extremely recent thing that was WP:OR extended backwards in the series, whereas previously all a gym leader's Pokemon were on relatively equal footing besides maybe a few instances. That said, it's likely most gym leaders should be removed anyway so it doesn't make a tremendous difference.  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:26, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair. I don't think it's necessarily an OR thing extended backwards but rather just a term that's been used more recently. I've heard the term before and, while I'm not exactly sure what it means (i'm sure Bulbapedia has the answer), I think it's supposed to mean it's either their strongest pokemon or the pokemon they are most well known for (for example Leon and his Charizard or Cynthia and her monster Garchomp) ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 14:29, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I only heard it very recently, it basically means their strongest mon IIRC. That kind of cruft should definitely go. - Cukie Gherkin (talk) 15:06, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely, maybe if the characters have a unique theme other than being based around one type (for example Penny using a full team of Eeveelutions) or one of their mons is specifically known for one thing (For example Cynthia's Garchomp being notoriously difficult in both D&P and BDSP) however the first option may sitll not be that important unless reliable sources make note of it, and the second option is only if a lot of reliable sources make note of it. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:17, 2 March 2023 (UTC)

text: I agree with everyone above. It's cruft. Sergecross73 msg me 16:54, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I might look to see if there are reliable sources that mention some of the character's pokemon outside of "This character's ace pokemon is X" cause i Wouldn't be surprised if some of these characters' pokemon are notable in relation to them outside of simply being one of their pokemon. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 17:15, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Like, Ash's Pikachu is significant to his character and should be included in something like this. Kabu's Centiskorch is the definition of cruft, lol. DecafPotato (talk) 20:14, 2 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: There are definitely exceptions, like Ash's Pikachu or Cynthia's Garchomp, but the majority of signature Pokemon are just WP:INDISCRIMINATE fan material  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 04:30, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. DecafPotato (talk) 16:49, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The aces of various characters 

message: In this edit I removed the listing of most Gym leaders. Feel free to reinstate some stuff from this if you feel it appropriate. Though honestly, it would be nice if new information is only added to this article when there are sources for it. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 15:18, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gym leaders 

message: There seems to be some inconsistencies with how Japanese is used in this article. Some use  with 3 parameters (mainly the protags and the Professors). Some use the template with just 2 parameters with the Romaji as the 2nd. Some use the template with the 2 parameters and the direct translation of the name as the 2nd, and some don't even use the template at all and instead place the Katakana directly in parentheses. I feel we should determine which format we should be using and then use that throughout the entire article. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 15:33, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, some don't even have the Japanese name. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 16:29, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd suggest matching a featured list like this. That format looks nice. This list isn't entirely consistent either in its usage (see Minor characters), but I'm not entirely sure what the logic is. It's clear that the most recent sections of our list are somewhat incomplete here. ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 10:46, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I might be able to use Bulbapedia to get some of the Japanese names (yes I could just play the games in Japanese which I'm planning on doing anyway, but Bulbapedia tends to be good with that kinda stuff) ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 12:56, 17 March 2023 (UTC)

text: I'll start by adding the ー after every vowel/character with a macron in Romaji ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 12:58, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok something weird is going on here. It looks like wherever there should be a chōonpu it uses the Katakana for u (ウ) and I don't know why. I'll be checking all of the names that have the Katakana u to see if it makes sense where it's placed. ― Blaze WolfTalkBlaze Wolf#6545 13:19, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese 

message: Hyperlinks to Professor Oak do not land on him. This needs to be corrected. Should Professor Oak have his own wiki page? He seems to be a recurring and primary and iconic character of Pokémon.  Dakolson (talk) 17:10, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed the Professor Oak redirect. After restructuring, there's probably a bunch of redirects that no longer work, so we might have some work there. Either way, don't worry about a separate article for Professor Oak while the section on him here still doesn't even have any citations! ^_^; ~Maplestrip/Mable (chat) 10:19, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to Professor Oak 

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