Talk:Urban heat island

message: I see this article has a WP:GA status. I think it might be in need of reassessment. I haven't yet done an in-depth analysis but from a quick check it seems to me that the structure of the article needs a bit of work (too many level 1 headings for things that could be grouped together, such as impacts). Probably also too many bullet point lists and content that is too detailed here compared to relevant sub-articles. I've had a look at the WP:GAR page and am wondering if it's worth opening a good article reassessment now or later or not at all? (note I won't have time to get involved in depth in the GAR process, does that mean I shouldn't start it?) - Pinging a few people who might be interested: User:William M. Connolley, User:Thegreatdr, User:Ed Poor, User:Vsmith, User:Femke, User:Chidgk1. EMsmile (talk) 11:04, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've now already done some of the culling and re-arranging that I felt the article needed to come back to GA status (see also in the sections below). EMsmile (talk) 14:50, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Note the article that was assessed for GA was the version from September 2009 which looked very different to the article today (my changes today have actually brought it back a little bit closer to the 2009 version as I took out a lot of fluff): https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Urban_heat_island&oldid=313565723 EMsmile (talk) 14:50, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed a bit of climate denial from the article (using an MDPI source to make a strong claim..), not a good sign. The geographic bias is a neutrality issue, and the article still has quite a few outdated aspects, so I think a GAR may still be warrented. If you explain well how the article does not line up with the criteria, there is only little expectation of remaining engaged. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 19:01, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Would it be a strong enough argument to say that 14 years is a long time and the current version is very different to the version that was reviewed in 2009? I guess that is not in the criteria list. But I think it would fail this one: "it stays focused on the topic without going into unnecessary detail". Although perhaps once I have finished with my culling and condensing activities it will be closer on the mark for that. EMsmile (talk) 10:09, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes if you do a GAR that would be great I think - for example it might prompt someone to add the 3 cites needed Chidgk1 (talk) 11:07, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Unfortunately, I don't have time at the moment to give this article more TLC at the moment. I think the current GA label ought to be removed as it's changed so much since 2009 and 14 years is a very long time. Then someone could start a new GAR to try and get the label back (which may or may not be very time consuming, I am not sure). EMsmile (talk) 16:58, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: EMsmile, you may find the GAR-helper script at WP:GAR helpful to nominate at GAR to propose the label is removed. Afterwards, the article will have to go through WP:GAN again to get the label back. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 17:21, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Tried script and yes it saves a little time and fiddle thanks Chidgk1 (talk) 17:50, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Update: it's delisted now. EMsmile (talk) 09:00, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good article reassessment? 

message: Hi User:Buidhe, you made an important observation in the GA review discussion above: "Another issue with this article is coverage. A major cause of the effect is not cities per se but the large concentrations of cars (particularly ICEs) and car infrastructure (parking lots, roads, and other paved areas). The article barely mentions this." 
I've now added two sentences from this ref to the "causes" section but feel free to expand on this, perhaps with an additional, more general source (as that source was specific to Phoenix). Thanks. EMsmile (talk) 11:45, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transport infrastructure 

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