Talk:The Isle

message: Having just watched the film, I believe the following comments in the article are inaccurate or plain wrong:
"Jung Suh plays the mute Hee-jin" - does she?  One of her clients says "I heard you moan, so you must be able to speak", and half wway through the film she is seen through a closed window _on_the_telephone_ [phoning the prostitute], so, how does a mute use a telephone?
:She is mute in the sense that she doesn't utter a single word during the entire film. It doesn't take sound to operate a telephone. If she is mute, pretty much the only reason she would call a prostitute would be to get her to come to the place, and the prostitute would know this. But if you want, you can change it to say she doesn't speak during the entire film but might or might not be mute, much like for any other 'mute' character in Kim Ki-duk's films.
"The prostitute's pimp, who comes to find out what's happening, is also killed by Hee-jin." - he cannot be _also_ killed, because Hee-jin didn't kill the prostitute, she tied her up, and the woman fell overboard; a niggling point, but Hee-jin is totally shocked to find her dead, only intending to imprison her to warn her away from Hyun-Shik.
:The prostitute's death would count as involuntary manslaughter in a court of law, since Hee-jin's actions were the direct cause of her death. There might not be an intent to kill, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.
"Hyun-shik rapes Hee-Jin, then takes the boat and is set to leave."  No he doesn't, he hits her, but she just keeps smiling at him, and they make love.. watch her arms go round him -- and it's because she is contentedly asleep next morning that allows him to "escape";
:I haven't watched the film in a while and can't remember how it happened. You (or anyone else) can change the wording if you like.
"The divers discover the bodies of the prostitute and the pimp" -- no, they discover the moped; the implication is that will lead to the discovery of the bodies, but the couple up-stakes as soon as the moped is trawled up;
:Same as previous, except I'm pretty sure a team of divers wouldn't happen along to look for a moped. But again, I forget why the divers were there in the first place, and anyone who knows better can fix it.
"The film concludes in enigmatic fashion, with Hyun-shik shown alone in the middle of a lake and naked Hee-jin dead in her boat." -- no, Hyun-Shik is shown "waking up" in the middle of a shallow lake and wading into a bed of reeds that viewed from above by the camera turns out to be the pubic hair of Hee-jin, laying under water in her boat.. the boat she cast off and which drifted away when she escaped on the houseboat.. there are many implications you can take from it, but the "fact" is that the whole sequence is a dream by one of the couple (Hyun-Shik, I think), from the moment Hyun-Shik "opens his eyes".  I take it that Hee-Jin _is_ "The Isle" to him -- a body of land mostly underwater but with nourishing vegetation which sustains him.   Extremely romantic.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.254.68.2 (talk • contribs) 
My  name is Robert and I would like to add the followng remarks. The above discussion points are exact and true. And as a seeker of knowledge, these facts provide satisfaction. Of great importance to me is the enigmatic ending. On the one hand the movie could have ended in three places. First, leaving the yellow floater in an ocean-then END. Second, ending the movie with the island of bullrushes and mist, then END. But the final ending is very ambiguous, and few, if any reviewers have tackled this discussion point. I would like to add my agreement to the User about the romantic dream sequence ending; and after reading it and watching the movie again it offers great satisffaction and closure.
:This one's original research, and stating that it's a "fact" that it was a dream is just wrong. It's a movie, it doesn't have to make sense, and it can be open to interpretation. It's just not the job of an encyclopedia to posit original interpretations. If you have a source for the statement, you can add an analysis section (or something similar) and list it there along with this source. And also, you can edit any other part of the article, this is a wiki, anyone can edit. - Bobet 12:14, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrections 

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BetacommandBot (talk) 09:37, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The WP:NFCC#10c issue has been addressed. MURGH disc. 11:02, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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message: Whether Hee-jin tried to commit suicide with the fish hooks or not is up to the viewer to decide,
but in that scene it is never shown where she attaches them.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.149.234.180 (talk) 11:40, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hee-jin and the fish hooks 

message: According to director Kim himself, the budget of the movie was $50000 and not $1000000 as stated in the article.
This is said in the interview that citation 2 links to.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.149.234.180 (talk) 12:13, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Budget