Talk:East Riding of Yorkshire

message: Might be interesting to find out when the former Haltemprice UD was parished.  From the ONS codes for the parishes: this appears to be after Beverley was parished: the parish codes are
 00FB164	Wressle CP
 00FB165	Yapham CP
 00FB166	Beverley CP
 00FB167	Cottingham CP
 00FB168	Anlaby with Anlaby Common CP
 00FB169	Bridlington CP
 00FB170	Kirk Ella CP
 00FB171	Willerby CP
Morwen - Talk 16:37, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Another random thing is : how does the northern border of the registration county compare with the modern district?  Looking at a map of poor law unions it looks very close indeed.  Morwen - Talk 12:06, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And we could do with finding out some more about the development of the three resort towns (Bridlington, Hornsea and Withernsea) and their popularity.  Where did people from West Yorkshire go on their holidays?  the North Sea coast or to - Whitby and Scarborough seem to be more popular here - did any cross the Pennines? Morwen - Talk 13:00, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I grew up in Doncaster in the West Riding and we went on holiday mostly to Scaborough and Filey: but did also cross the Pennines for a day trip to Blackpool at least once (I don't remember ever staying there).  I believe the nearest coastal town for quick spare of the moment car journeys was Cleethorpes, however.  Yorkshire Phoenix (talk • contribs) 13:23, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Random project 

message: "The eponymous River Hull drains the area north of Kingston" sounds like gibberish to me.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.189.29.53 (talk) 11:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed! Better would be "The eponymous river Hull drains the area north of the city of Hull." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.189.29.53 (talk • contribs) 15:36, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The eponymous River Hull 

message: This page seems to need more information about education in this area.  Is there a university?  A population of this size probably should have at least one!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.172.201 (talk) 07:44, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically there are no universities in the county. There is the University of Hull in Kingston upon Hull which is part of the ceremonial county but a separate unitary authority. This has some halls of residence in Cottingham which is in the county. Keith D (talk) 14:41, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Education

message: Leconfield is a Met Office weather station showing current statistics. Does anyone know if historical climate statistics are available as they would be more representative than High Mowthorpe?--Harkey (talk) 18:24, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Try  for historical data from March 2003. Keith D (talk) 16:45, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I'll do the sums later and import the final figures into table like the High Mowthorpe one.--Harkey (talk) 17:28, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Eventually I gave in and used High Mowthorpe as Leconfield figures were not compatible without a lot of massaging.--Harkey (talk) 21:30, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate 

message: Should we remove the table as per previous comments on this when doing the Kingston upon Hull article? Keith D (talk) 11:32, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.The statistics are quite old now, as are the ones in Demography. There are some useful bits and pieces in the source at ref 23.--Harkey (talk) 13:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Economy

message: Could someone please find a way to mention that the current administrative/ceremonial East Riding does not cover the same extent as the old Historic East Riding once did - it seems, this article is accepting the notion the 1888-1974 county was revived, when it's merely a revived name for the new county from 1996. Any ideas? An index of metals (talk) 13:56, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This is in hand. If you look at History of the East Riding of Yorkshire, you will see that there is some more detail about the history and a couple of explanatory maps. Unfortunately, the editing of the article has been put on hold by the usual editors for a while but will resume soon. Thanks for your comment though.--Harkey (talk) 18:13, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Historic East Riding

message: (Came here after noticing the peer review request). Would it be worth mentioning something about Hull in the lead? Particularly as the article covers both the unitary authority and ceremonial county (of which it is a part). I know it will be tricky to word something, without going into the full details, but it's important as the dominant settlement of the area, even if it isn't in the unitary authority. Quantpole (talk) 14:27, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I think you are probably right as it has a part to play in the economy, transport and facilities of the area as well as been part of the ceremonial county. The lead needs a look at to see how best to cover things without making it too complicated. Always good to get a new pair of eyes looking at things as you often overlook the obvious when you are working on an article for a period of time. Keith D (talk) 17:01, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have put in a sentence to indicate this but probably still needs work. Keith D (talk) 22:40, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hull 

message: The lead currently says: "It is named after the historic East Riding of Yorkshire (one of three ridings alongside the North Riding and West Riding), which also constituted a ceremonial and administrative county until 1974." When did the East Riding first become an administrative county in its own right, more than just a thrid of Yorkshire? Or is that question impossible to answer succinctly? almost-instinct 09:24, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Start date for East Riding

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message: We need the 2015 results in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/East_Riding_of_Yorkshire_Council_election,_2015  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.53.143.188 (talk) 17:09, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have reset the results table in this article as the chnged results are not covered by the references. Needs to be updated to 2015 results but cannot find a reference to give figures for a summary table - only individual results. Keith D (talk) 11:14, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
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message: Given that they are unitary authorities, ought they not to be yellow? Robin S. Taylor (talk) 21:40, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you referring to by this comment? Also why should it be yellow, is there some convention stated somewhere? Keith D (talk) 20:34, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
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message: There should be a seperate unitary authority article as it covers the whole unitary authority of East Riding but not Hull. It's confusing to the readers to cramp in Hull and east riding as one article but then have no seperate unitary authority article for the east riding which Hull is not seperate from. The county and unitary are not the same. One has Hull and other doesn't. I did mention this back on Wikigeography but nobody really engaged with it. 
 has reverted and redirected my article. Then what grounds does the ceremonial county cover the unitary authority but not Hull yet this article talks about both Hull and the unitary authority as one?
I sourced it well and took ages putting together the article. So what did I do wrong? To earn a complete redirect and erasion of my article? DragonofBatley (talk) 20:09, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't redirect the article it was done by User:Keith D, I actually expanded it, see the history. Crouch, Swale (talk)  20:19, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

text: There was no discussion on this and it causes large amounts of duplication. We should avoid duplication as it is just more articles to update if it needs changing. The way it was, it needed several hundred articles changing to cover the split. I you want to do it get consensus first. May be the other splits you mentioned need reverting and discussing. Keith D (talk) 20:33, 6 May 2022 (UTC)

text: The East Yorkshire articles covers all of the incarnations in a single article, or you would have different articles for different periods of its history, one of those would include Hull when it was part of the East Riding. The council article covers elections and should be separate, probably in all cases. You would also have yet another one for the one to be set up for the devolution deal when they get it sorted (may be the change in leadership in Hull will alter this). Keith D (talk) 01:19, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The district article is for the unitary district created in 1996 while this article is for the ceremonial county, you removed years ago statements of Kingston upon Hull district but there is a Kingston upon Hull district just like there is a East Riding of Yorkshire district. Articles should probably read "X is a village and civil parish in the East Riding of Yorkshire district, in the ceremonial county of the East Riding of Yorkshire, England" and "X is a suburb of Kingston upon Hull, in the Kingston upon Hull district, in the ceremonial county of the East Riding of Yorkshire, England". Articles should generally state the parish/unparished area and district unless (like Northumberland concurrent with the ceremonial county or Hull concurrent with the district). Crouch, Swale (talk)  09:27, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That is just silly and confusing. You can drop the Kingston upon Hull district completely as totally unnecessary and just confuses readers. Similarly for the East Riding of Yorkshire you can forget about mentioning the ceremonial county as it just confuses the issue. Most readers will not be knowledgable about UK geography and just want to know whee the place is. Keep things simple. Keith D (talk) 19:06, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: How is it silly? Its standard and expected that we explain what divisions a place is in and that shouldn't matter if one of them has the same name (yet different boundaries) to a ceremonial county or the district has roughly the same boundaries as the settlement. Crouch, Swale (talk)  16:42, 8 May 2022 (UTC)

text: 1 article about the ceremonial count and 1 about the unitary district wouldn't likely confuse a significant number of people. We normally mention what district and ceremonial county a place is in such as Paignton being in Torbay in Devon. I don't see why this shouldn't also be the case when the district has the same name a ceremonial county. I support restoring but I won't do it without discussion. Crouch, Swale (talk)  16:22, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This is fine as it is we do not need 2 articles essentially covering the same thing. Just mention the fact about the ceremonial county here and not have a separate article. I am sure that other articles could do with combining in a similar way to reduce redundancy. Keith D (talk) 23:10, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seperate unitary authority article 

message: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_UK_geography#Hull_merger_into_East_Riding_of_Yorkshire_or_Hull%2C_East_Riding_of_Yorkshire_county_and_East_Riding_of_Yorkshire_district%3F DragonofBatley (talk) 16:01, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
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