Talk:Kennet and Avon Canal

message: ON HOLD for 7 days. Lead needs to be expanded to summarize the entire article. Add one paragraph. Other than that, fine article. Rlevse 14:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've expanded the lead to talk about the course of the canal but other contributions might help to get this article to GA status. — Rod talk 14:49, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ummm, are you sure they were looking at the right article? (Check 'reviewed version'!!)--EdJogg 16:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The oldid was missing the last digit. I've reinserted it.--Rmky87 23:44, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA status

message: I like the route diagrams, but the legend link seems to be incorrect. It seems to be telling me that the canal is a light rail line!. -- Chris j wood 13:04, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legend on route diagram 

message: In the "History" section, this article says: "In 1956 the Kennet and Avon Canal Trust successfully petitioned against its legal closure. [...] The Kennet and Avon Canal Trust was formed in the 1960s..."  Are these dates correct, and if so, how can the Trust have petitioned against the canal's closure before it was formed? -- AJR | Talk 13:21, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: A fix added. --Old Moonraker (talk) 15:40, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kennet & Avon Canal trust dates 

message: The Caen Hill locks are clearly illustrated and described in the 'Devizes to Newbury' section, yet they appear in the route template for the previous section ('Bath to Devizes'). This is inconsistent. -- EdJogg (talk) 13:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Good catch. The template is right, so the the text and image should indeed be shifted to the "Bath to Devizes" section. --Old Moonraker (talk) 14:42, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well spotted. I've moved the text & pic relating to Caen Hill to the Bath to Devizes section.— Rod talk 16:50, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This got me thinking (& looking). The text about Bath Locks is in "Bath to Devizes" but shown in the template/map on the "Bristol to Bath" section. Should I move this text as well? I'm not sure how the divisions of the template were decided upon and what criteria we should use to decide where the section breaks should fall?— Rod talk 16:58, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The Bath Locks are in the right template, and the first two paras of the "Bath to Devizes" section (before "In the Avon Valley" ) should be moved up. Seems to work OK. -- EdJogg (talk) 23:30, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: But the text breaks at what seems to be an obvious place: the change from river navigation to canal. Suggest the opposite (and trickier) solution: move the canal, east of "River Avon", from "Bristol to Bath" template to "Bath to Devizes" template. --Old Moonraker (talk) 07:10, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the comments. I agree with EdJogg that we need consistency between the text and the templates, but with Old Moonraker that the logical place for section breaks is the nature of the sections of the waterway. I have asked User:Pigsonthewing to comment as he originally created the templates and may have a rationale for where they are split. We currently use towns/cities as the dividing line but it might work to do "Avon Navigation", "Bath Locks to Summit Pound" "Summit Pound to Kennet" & "Kennet Navigation" as this would follow the structure of the canal. I would really like to get rid of the white space in each section, which is generated by the length of the temaplates & I don't think they yet include all bridges, wharves & other relevant features. What do you think?— Rod talk 08:18, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you., but I have no local knowledge and no view on this matter. Good luck with the changes, Andy Mabbett (User:Pigsonthewing); Andy's talk; Andy's edits 12:36, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: OK: done a simple cut-and-paste to move the break, if that's what we've decided. Anyone please help me out by checking them before I post? (This isn't a polite formality: I may have broken something in the process!) Sandbox here.--Old Moonraker (talk) 14:38, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: THanks they look fine to me (however I was avoiding this as I'm not very confident with these sorts of templates). Just one thing I spotted. The A4 overpass (Bridge 194) is actually the A36.— Rod talk 14:43, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Road re-named. --Old Moonraker (talk) 15:01, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

text: Thats great thanks to both of you. The only problem I can see is the top of the 2nd template (Bath to Devizes) says "from Bath & Bristol" - I think it should just be from Bristol because it starts in Bath.— Rod talk 17:09, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "Bath" removed--Old Moonraker (talk) 07:32, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template inconsistency 

message: The description of the Floating harbour is done in the wrong order, given that the route of the canal as a whole is west to east. Ideally it should start at Hotwells and finish at Netham lock. Any objections to changing it? --Simple Bob a.k.a. The Spaminator (Talk) 08:14, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well spotted. I'd be happy if you could change it, as long as it still describes the original course of the Avon & New Cut & the difference between them.— Rod talk 08:46, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've had a go at rewriting it from Cumberland Basin/Hotwells to Netham, but obviously any further improvements welcome.— Rod talk 19:55, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That looks good, thanks. --Simple Bob a.k.a. The Spaminator (Talk) 21:40, 29 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bristol to Bath section comment 

message: I am aware that one page number is still needed - I've ordered the book from the library, but what else do people think would be needed to get this article to FA standard?— Rod talk 20:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have tweaked the maps, to use the BS-header, so you get an Edit button, created a new icon for the railway crossing Bruce tunnel, and removed some of the icons where the River Kennet left the navigation. There are many of these, and only five were shown. The one that was above Frounds Bridge marina should have been on the left, and the marina is offline on the river channel here, but I cannot fit it in without making the map wider. I have added the points at which the River Kennet joins the navigation, and also the River Lambourn. I hope that is ok. Bob1960evens (talk) 19:01, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What else is needed to get this article to FA standard? 

message: Bath Locks appear (from satellite imagery) to be two groups of three closely-spaced locks. It would be nice to add, to the Bath-Devizes section, details of the distance between Bath Bottom Lock and Bath Top Lock, and the total rise/fall over this distance. It also looks like Bath Deep Lock was constructed to negotiate one or two road crossings (including the A36). We mention that it replaced two locks, but give no reason why. Naturally, this information should also be added to the Bath Locks article.
BTW the reference for the Deep Lock being the deepest differs between here and its own article, where a list shows it as the second deepest. I have revised the text but not changed the reference. -- EdJogg (talk) 13:26, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This has introduced a bit of a problem. Allsop p21 (which is used as the cite) says "Britain's deepest canal lock", but it is now being used to support "The new chamber has a depth of , making it Britain's second deepest canal lock" which the ref doesn't say. The ref cited on Bath Locks, shows Tuel Lane Lock as the deepest lock, but says this is "new" (without dates). I suspect Tuel Lane has been built since the Allsop book was published, so a phrase such as "Bath Deep Lock was the deepest in England when it was built" may be appropriate, however I don't have a source to support that.— Rod talk 15:40, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a 'record breakers' page at Waterscape, which helpfully mentions both locks, so that should do as a reference for all three articles. -- EdJogg (talk) 21:05, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That one seems OK to use - will you do it or shall I? NB Collins/Nicholson (2006 ed) p61 says "This [Bath Deep Lock] now vies with Tuel Deep Lock, on the Rochdale Canal, for deepest lock on the navigable waterways system."— Rod talk 08:32, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Bath Locks

message: There is a big chunk of text which is duplicated in the Brown's Folly article, and which is only tangentially related to the canal. As far as I can make out, the Folly (etc) overlooks the canal, but has no other connection with it. I think the section could be removed as it is distracting in the middle of a description of the canal. -- EdJogg (talk) 13:26, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I've removed this as a single edit, which makes it easier to revert if appropriate. -- EdJogg (talk) 14:31, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Brown's Folly

message: There would appear to be two 14th century tithe barns near the canal to the west of Bradford, with two references to support this. Is this actually one tithe barn? If so, the sentence containing the second mention could be quietly dropped, and the reference moved. -- EdJogg (talk) 13:26, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There is only one barn. I have removed the second mention as suggested.— Rod talk 15:48, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: C14th Tithe Barn(s), Bradford on Avon

message: I have completely reordered this paragraph several times. I think it all makes sense, but this needs checking! -- EdJogg (talk) 13:26, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Caen Hill

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