Talk:Hungerford massacre

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This qualifies as a school shooting.  Ryan shot himself whilst in the school, hence making it a school shooting.  I don't see what the difficulty would be in seeing the category's way into the article. - 108.71.133.201 (talk) 17:41, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much for bringing it here to discuss. I don't agree at all. Can I respectfully ask if you have read School shooting or looked at the contents of :Category:School shootings committed by adults or :Category:School shootings I see no similarity. Yes, Ryan did indeed top himself at a school but his attack was an apparently fairly random ramble round Hungerford. It doesn't seem anything like the others, nor like the definitions given in the article. It was not an attack on a school and its people - it was an attack, surely, on a town? Best wishes DBaK (talk) 20:33, 8 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  School shooting 

message: Discuss here rather than edit-warring. This is an English article, as such it should adhere to the English (British) standard. Enigmamsg 00:37, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, and at the moment "licensed" is incorrectly spelt in 2 of its 3 uses in the article - whether we are using British or American English. Although the noun is spelt differently (UK= "a licence", US = "a license") the verb is spelt identically in both varieties of English as "to license". So "Licenced firearms ownership" should be "Licensed firearms ownership" and "he was in licenced possession" should be "he was in licensed possession" to remove the spelling mistakes. -- DeFacto (talk). 07:15, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

text: Agreed. The vandal IP who changed it to the wrong spelling is obviously the same IP-hopping sock, evading blocks, as seen at Downloadable content. - David Biddulph (talk) 08:35, 9 January 2019 (UTC)

text: Perhaps User:Enigmaman can correct it, as he has set full-protection on the article? --David Biddulph (talk) 08:39, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Enigmamsg 22:16, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Licence vs. license 

message: Cultural references lack mention of 'Hungerford Poem' and 'Hot on the wire'. Both by Chris Bowsher of RDF who was a witness to the atrocity. 92.40.218.136 (talk) 18:43, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: . Added reference to both songs with a WP:RS. MIDI (talk) 20:49, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chris Bowsher and RDF 

message: I contest that Eric Vardy's funeral (Aftermath section) was the "beginning" of the series of funerals following the massacre. I recall in the 1990s I read a book (title and author forgotten) by a British publisher about the massacre which stated that the first funeral of a victim to take place was that of Abdul Khan, a Muslim, which I recall was stated to be 24 hours after his death (likely for religious reasons) and that it was attended by 2,000 people, though the book stated no venue. Needs checking up. I am sure there would have also been local news coverage.Cloptonson (talk) 16:19, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've only found one specific mention of Khan's funeral so far, which is in Josephs (1993) and says "More than 200 people attended the funeral of Mr Abdul Rahman Khan, as Muslim mourners paid their last respects". It also says "The first of the funerals had taken [...] on Wednesday 26 August, exactly one week after the massacre. It was the funeral of Erie  Vardy". Unless we can cite any more about Khan's funeral, despite an Islamic funeral needing to take place as soon as possible after death, WP:VNT must apply. MIDI (talk) 09:56, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That was probably the book I read, as at the time it was later than 1993 -my memory was obviously playing tricks about the numbers and about the timing. I have just realised also there would need to be time for a legally-required post-mortem. My recall was it was the first funeral mentioned, so I must have assumed by my same memory it was the first funeral to take place.Cloptonson (talk) 16:51, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Abdul Khan