Talk:Sylar/Archive 1

message: I don't thin Sylar is bulletproof.  If you watch the scene where Matt seems to unload his clip on Sylar, it is obvious that he is struck as least once and knocked off balance.  If you turn your volume up loud enough, when Sylar gets up you'll hear the bullets fall to the ground and bounce.  That makes me think that perhaps he was wearing a Kevlar jacket beneath his clothing. --DJ Chair 05:19, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Assuming Sylar is telekinetic, assuming that telekinesis means using your mind to move matter, and resorting to the old physics routine of "Matter equals Energy" in much the same way that Space and Time are one, then theoretically, Telekinesis can be used to shift energy as well as matter. He needsn't have "cold manipulation" powers to freeze people, simply shift the thermal energy away from their bodies. He needn't be invincible or even have a bulletproof vest on to stop bullets telekinetically. He needn't have the power of flight or levitation to use telekinesis to move himself up. Presuming that telekinesis can shift energy as well as matter, then technically Sylar could make himself invisible by telekinetically averting photons from his general area, or something similar. -- Rihk 21:28, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed on both counts, DJ, except I really think it'd be better to cover our bases and keep the freezing out of the range of any psycho powers. Let's say...telekinesis, possible cold manipulation and occasionally equipped with a bulletproof vest. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 06:35, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough, but if I'm right, you all owe me a dollar! --DJ Chair 12:14, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

text: He fell back after the bullet made an impact. He arose—albeit telekinetically—and the bullet it fell out. Bulletproof vest! Why does every explanation need some sort of power behind it? Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 20:29, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Occam's Razor? If someone had "Telekinesis", it's logical that they wouldn't wear a bulletproof vest, they would stop bullets with the power of their mind. and to User:64.123.189.114, see my explanation of Telekinesis above, the topic has been a great interest of mine for years. Rihk 23:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're assuming based on the maximum purported possibilities. Who's to say Sylar's confident enough not to do some aas simple as wear a vest? Let alone adept enough to do as you claim. Plus, I'd say I know a thing or two as well. Were it a shield, the bullet would have not made much/any impact, let alone make him fall back; it would have bounced off—ala Supes—or something. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 00:08, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I've read in the bulletproof vest article, much of what happened in the scene could be explained by a bulletproof vest: the bullets would become embedded in the vest, but their force might well have knocked down the wearer.  But would the bullets simply fall out of the vest when he got up?  I would think that a vest would have kept the bullets embedded, but I have no expertise in this. Primogen 18:24, 17 November 2006 (UTC)

text: it's completely obvious to me that everything Sylar has done so far was TK. bullets stopping, audrey's arm forced up to point the gun at her head, lifting himself up, drawing the coffee cup to him... and yes, even the freezing of his victims. presuming telekinetic powers, there would have to be some sort of kinetic energy consumed or drawn upon, even if so obtuse as static electricity. taking that kinetic energy as a given, a small step forward in thought is to connect it to thermal energy. through kinetic energy, work is done. when work is done, heat is found. kinetic and thermal energies are closely bound. of course, this is science fiction, and the writers can do whatever they want. if they want him to wear a bulletproof vest, i will not argue. Rihk 01:47, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If he stopped the bullets with TK, why did he fall over?  If he had a healing factor, why would he want Claire's?  I can't think of any other explanation than a bulletproof vest.  As to why the bullets fell out, he could have pulled them out telekinetically.  And as for why he would wear a bulletproof vest, compare his powers with those of DL - Sylar COULD have stopped the bullets with telekinesis IF he'd known they were coming, but the implication of the scene seemed to be that Matt took him by surprise.  So if Sylar (like DL) was aware of this weakness, then it would make perfect sense for him to wear a vest.  However, this is all speculation.  Any explanation given for how he survived the bullets must be flagged up as only a possibility.  Branfish 07:02, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bulletproof? 

message: I'm removing this part:
"Sylar presumably removed a piece of Davis's brain and implanted it into his own"
This may well be how Sylar absorbed his powers, but there is no evidence that it was, as far as I can tell.  It's complete speculation at this point.
Correct.  No episode has yet to definitively answer what Sylar does with these brains, or exactly how he acquired Davis' telekinetic ability.  We don't even know if he's acquired powers beyond telekinesis.  By the way, remember to sign your posts and put new topics as the bottom of the talk page. Primogen 17:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed Part of His Brain? 

message: As per, old edit of the article, Madchester removed the brief synopsis of Sylar stating it broke Original Research protocols... how does Sylar's apparent disappearance with Matt the police officer watching something moving upward at a great speed off-frame fall into Original Research?  It occurred in the episode, we just didn't actually see Sylar move upward.
Furthermore, he was shot a whole bunch of times, and yet got up and appeared unscathed... how does him being marked as invulnerable get categorized as original research when the scene shows him get up unscathed? --DJ Chair 18:01, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is speculation that that Sylar is invincible.  There are other possibilites.  Syler might instead have healing factor, force fields, or some other power that minimized the impact or effect of the bullet.  Or he might just be wearing a bulletproof vest.  In addition, he might be vulnerable to things other than bullets. Primogen 20:21, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Telekinesis perfectly explains his being unscathed after being shot at. Technically, Force Fields could be made with Telekinesis as well. Quite possibly even holding your own cells together under stress, (closing a cut from a knife, closing a bullethole) which might be explained as some sort of invulnerability or healing factor. Rihk 21:32, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And I thought that it was some form of mind control and/or magnetic manipulation.  That's three different hypotheses from three different editors.  We should wait until the character's powers and details have been confirmed via the show or an interview with the writers and/or actors.  Otherwise, we are simply speculating and providing original research, which is not permitted on Wikipedia. --Madchester 22:24, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Your point being? Branfish 07:12, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's the deal Madchester? 

message: Wasn't the blond that Sylar almost killed in the third episode a police captain, not an FBI agent? --dws90 00:22, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: She invited Matt Parkman to work for/with the FBI. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 00:43, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To expound a bit, she and her partner was called in to find the missing child from the murder scene, because due to the crime the missing child was considered kidnapped, which is a federal offense.  Furthermore, it's likely that once the description of the dead was passed on to the feds, they were on it like gangbusters because of the serial killer... also a federal offense (multiple states and all.) --DJ Chair 13:17, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FBI Agent Molly? 

message: This is somewhat speculative and maybe not the sort of thing that should go into the page, but it strikes me that the name "Sylar" might be derived from "Scylla", the Greek Myth character that started as beautiful water nymph and later was transformed into a hideous ship-devouring monster with six heads with three rows each of sharp teeth. Kinda akin to a supposedly normal man acquiring "uncontrollable hunger" after having his powers awakened? Renenarciso 19:58, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Speculative comparison, akin to the ones made between Niki and dopplogangers, The Hulk, etc. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 20:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek Myth and Possible Origin for Sylar's name? 

message: I'm only a casual watcher, but I remember his identity being revealed last night. I think. Apparently he had radioactive powers. 24.186.192.247 16:53, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, that turned out to be a guy with radioactive powers that simply lost control, and was not Sylar.  None of Sylar's victims were radioactive and burned to a crisp, and the guy admitted to it being an accident. 70.49.249.220 17:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Something Sprague 

message: Sylar apparently has much more advanced powers than the rest of the heroes, perhaps he has multiple abilities because of this.
See Sylar's Powers discussion, above. Primogen 19:54, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  multiple powers 

message: and we will finally get a clear picture of his face. but i also think that we should keep the older picture for the article. so, when adding a new picture, please keep the old one. thanks. dposse 03:09, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, all we know is that he appeared in the preview for the episode "Six Months Ago". At the WAY end. I read here that he is somewhat a "nerdy" man, with glasses. - Preview--Addict 2006 02:40, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, so maybe I'm not sure about who the nerdy-looking office worker is. We'll just have to wait until Monday! --Addict 2006 05:20, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All i'm asking is that we keep the "shrouded in darkness" picture so we can show what we saw of him from the beginning of Heroes. dposse 19:15, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is long enough to support several images of Sylar, so long as it is not violating copyright or fair use. Primogen 19:23, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. I just wanted people to be aware of it. dposse 21:47, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  sylar will be revealed next episode. 

message: When I load the Sylar article, the following text appears in the "powers" section:
Sylar's most prominent and only confirmed ability is telekinesis, which he first demonstrates in "One Giant Leap" by nearly forcing Audrey Hansen to shoot herself.
When I edit the section, the text (in bold above) does not appear, nor is editable, is this an editing artifact by some malicious person, a wiki error, or something entirely different (note, I have done the requistite due-dilligence to ensure this is not an error on my own machine) ---boston-birdman 11/27/2006 1430EST
:It's possible that there was some delay in the database updating. I checked the page history and there was an edit at 12:18 EST which introduced this vandalism. The next edit, at 12:59 EST, removed it. Thanks for bringing it up, though - I have noticed that occasionally edits seem to take a few minutes to "register" - I'll make a change, save it, and the page will reload unchanged. It then takes a few forced refreshes to clear things up. --Ckatzchatspy 20:07, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  text error / spam? 

message: Grey or Gray?
Both spellings appear throughout this article. Wengero 03:38, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The closed captioning spells it Gray and the window display at the begining of the episode says "Gray and Sons." AWarriorStill 02:15, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gray or Grey 

message: I think this article should be moved to Gabriel Sylar now that his first name is known. Or maybe something like Gabriel "Sylar" Grey, though I think the first one is better. What does everyone else think? --SSJ4 Aragorn 06:05, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia policy is to use the common form of all names. Sylar is the most commonly use form of his name thus far, and so therefore should be the title of the article. If everyone starts calling him Gabriel, then we can change it, but until then, it should stay here. A redirect from Gabriel Sylar to Sylar could be created, but I don't think that's necessary. --dws90 06:13, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From the episode, it seemed that he renamed himself simply "Sylar" , not Gabriel Sylar. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 21:06, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From the episode "6 months ago", it seems that he named himself "Sylar. Gabriel Sylar" when he introduced himself to Brian Davis. Rihk 02:34, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Of course, in "Fallout", he screams "My name is Sylar!" Rihk 04:40, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gabriel Sylar 

message: We need an entire section to explain this nutjobs personality. He's extremely narcissistic, to the point that he believes that it's his right to be better than everyone else. dposse 13:49, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  his personality 

message: There was a section about "possible influences" from previous comics (e.g., "Watchmen") on the choice of Sylar's job as a watchmaker.  I reverted this section -- not only was it purely speculation, and therefore a violation of Wikipedia:No Original Research, but I've read interviews with the show's creators that indicate they purposefully tried to avoid being influenced by existing comic.  Just thought people should know, since I deleted two well-written paragraphs. Primogen 20:57, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you read The Legend of Nightfall  (1993) by Mickey Zucker Reichert? I would almost say that is as much a possible influence as about anything else. In the book, which is fantasy, there are some people who are “gifted” with special abilities, of which Nightfall is one of them – he can make himself lighter or heavier. Others have the ability to heal, or to this or that. Similar to in Heroes.  Also, the antagonist in the story is a sorcerer, and in the book sorcerers are beings who’s only original ability is to steal the abilities of people who are gifted. Eventually being able to have several gifts/abilities. Exactly like Sylar. Mefanch 22:41, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article should not be concerned with "possible" influences -- only actual influences matter.  Unless there is a reliable source saying that Tim Kring and the other show creators were actually influenced by another work of fiction, then it shouldn't go in this article. There are plenty of fan forums elsewhere for speculating about possible influences and similarities. Primogen 22:47, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with that, which is why I did not add it. I was not arguing that it should be included, merely pointing out that there are lots of “possible” influences. I don’t think they should be added either, unless there is a source that can be sited. Mefanch 23:16, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influences 

message: I think there's definitely been some credence lent to the "Sylar as a Power Mimic" theory by "Six Months Ago". It would explain pretty well why saving Claire would save the world. Claire is essentially invincible (she died and came back to life, for Christ's sake) and giving that kind of power to an obvious psychopath with already frightening telekinetic abilities would probably qualify as not good. 68.80.198.93 04:24, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Save the Cheerleader... 

message: "Eventually, Sylar became a notorious serial killer, leading FBI agent Audrey Hansen to become obsessed with capturing him. Three months after taking on his serial killer persona, Sylar led Hanson on a chase through the streets of Chicago, following another one of his murders. Hanson chased him into the subways. He gave his cap and trench coat to an innocent elderly man, which caused the agent to mistake the man for Sylar. After shooting the man, she realized her mistake, and the unbearable guilt from her error intensified her drive to hunt him down"
Is this right?  Which episode was this revealed in?--Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) 05:14, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No kidding.. I removed it..EnsRedShirt 05:18, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I believe its from the Turning Point graphic novel, which details Audrey's hunt for Sylar. It just needs to be cited in the article.  If no one else does it, I'll get to it. Primogen 05:21, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Argg stupid graphic novels.. feel free to revert my edit..EnsRedShirt 05:26, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Huh?

message: So, would it still be speculation to declaratively state that the shadowy, ball-capped man is in fact Gabriel "Sylar" Gray?
Also, would it be speculation to state that the shadowy man definitely has some ability that allows him to vanish suddenly, be it invisibility, teleportation, flight, or 'other'? 66.142.170.224 05:49, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO, it's no longer speculation to state the shadowy ball-capped man is Sylar, however I would say it is still speculation to say that he has an ability to suddenly vanish. The shadows could be for artistic affect/mystery or they could be a power he "inherited". And while he may be able to use telekinises to fling himself into the air to escape(which is what it looked like to me); it’s still impossible to say that is what happened as the whole thing happened too fast, and was barely glimpsed making it still speculation what happened exactly. Mefanch 06:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

text: er.. what Primogen said. He's fast on the send button ;) Mefanch 06:06, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The shadowy man

message: Someone did screen captures and transcriptione of the database of names found on Suresh's computer. Should these be mentioned in this article? --Kmsiever 16:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: i believe that the only death we can attribute to sylar is the one we saw in "Six Months Ago". dposse 18:29, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We certainly can't assume that all Heroes that are dead were killed by Sylar.  Branfish 07:37, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Deaths

message: Recently, users have been attempted to assert that Sylar is the "main antagonist" of Heroes. I don't really find this appropriate. Thoughts? Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 01:38, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think we can definitively claim Sylar as the main antagonist.  I don't see Sylar as being a character that will last the entire series, if it goes on for several seasons.  Mr. Bennett might well prove to be the serie's main antagonist (even to Sylar), and it may be that Theodore Sprague will instigate the nuclear explosion everyone will eventually try to prevent in this season's main storyline.  There are too many plots and too much mystery to establish a main protagonist yet. Primogen 01:55, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think currently he is the main antagonist. Not to say that won't change in the future. If the series lasts a few years, which hopefully it will, they could have a series of main antagonists. Who's the main antagonist for Batman or Wolverine? Just depends on which year you are reading. Mr. Bennett could end up the main antagonist in a future story, currently I see him more as a "edgy" professor X type; but either way - in the current development of the story, he's not the main antagonist; imo it's Sylar. Mefanch 05:52, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that it is only an opinion makes it too subjective and speculative for an encyclopedia addition, especially in the intro. While I don't agree with the Batman example,—ever hear of The Joker?—you make a good point about flucuation; too good, I'm afraid. Much like main character status on the show, the "main antagonist" shouldn't be for us to decide, especially if there's a chance we could be wrong. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 06:06, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Plus, there can be many different "arcs" or storylines. Consider though, did Sylar ever antagonize Niki, Micah or D.L.? Sylar may have been the main villainous focus for the arc comprising episodes 1-13 ("Sylar arc"?), and the rest of the first season may focus on the "bomb arc" or the "monster arc" or whatever. We do not know yet, therefore it cannot be verified and is not worthy of inclusion. Rihk 04:49, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I understand of the term "antagonist", a crucial aspect of the term is that the character is in opposition to the characters from whose POV the story is told.  As Mr. Bennett's POV is one of those used regularly on the series, I think this would rule out his definition as an antagonist, despite his shady early appearences.  As for Sylar, I agree that it is too early to define a MAIN antagonist, I think he is clearly AN antagonist. Branfish 07:47, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "main antagonist" 

message: :: I think we can settle the debate on this. In this interview, the writers confirmed Sylar can freeze people. They also confirmed his memory will be getting better as a result of absorbing Charlie's power.  --Stabbey 15:14, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  And yet in yesterday's episode, the only power they could find in him was telekinesis. --Kmsiever 15:19, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's true, but they know he has more powers. They just can't get them to manifest. Chandra couldn't find Sylar's original power either, but he had something. --Stabbey 20:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Freezing 

message: As an summary by another user requests that a comment be made if their edit is reverted,—>.>—I'll be brief. There is no need for the content which I removed. It was redundant and defeated the purpose of the "killings" template. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 19:13, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How so? I thought the purpose was to create a clear list of the murders that Sylar did and the powers he gained from them and the "notes" section being an additional piece of infomation to help put it into context.dposse 22:53, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The default "context" is that he killed them. The time is fairly irrelevant and the location of NYC can be assumed. Furthermore, giving them all notes defeats the true purpose of the notes. In most tables like this one, the use of notes is a rarity, not a given. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 02:52, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested comment 

message: Yes, he does. First of all, check out this page from Sylar's Company medical file.  Sylar's LDL and total triglyceride readings are off the chart, to put it mildly (LDL of 190+ and triglycerides of 500+ is the highest level defined).  If Sylar were a normal human, his arteries would be clogged to the point of cardiac failure.  It just so happens that brains, when eaten, are incredibly high in saturated fat and cholesterol, which directly affects LDL and triglyceride levels in humans.  So I think the question of whether or not Sylar actually eats the brains is effectively answered.  Revoltingly enough, yes -- he does. Joshualander 10:08, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not as it reads; somewhere in the middle. Bryan's statements could imply that it's more the latter, but he chose to disclose this explanation. Furthermore, he made no indication that they have another idea or ever will. Plus, from what I've read on forums, fans knew he ate brains for a while now. If new explanation comes to light, we'll obviously write it up, but take that as the best we'll get for now. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 04:27, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, just checking.  I mean, I personally had a theory he was eating the brains (because it's obvious he's doing something with them such that he doesn't just leave them there), but I was just curious about any sort of official clarification.  I wouldn't be surprised if they have it come up on the show just to clarify it.--MythicFox 05:18, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't have the reference, but I could swear I read somewhere that early drafts of the character had him eating the brains, but then it appeared too 'zombie-like' and ghoulish and didn't fit the feel of the show...so that's why it's currently rather ambiguous how he's actually acquiring the abilities. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.112.93.84 (talk) 09:33, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

text: We've never actually seen Sylar absorb a power except on his own terms... meaning he could be using a tool or chemical. Chemically absorbing the DNA makes the most sense. Certainly, his understanding of "things" would allow for him to have created whatever means he needs to get their DNA into his. He may not have gotten Eden's power because he didn't have the resources availablr to extract it before it was ruined or something. AllUltima 05:25, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

text: One writers opinion does not a consensus make.  Every person it's been shown that Sylar killed(after getting his TK), he's sawed their head open and removed their brain.  Maybe he eats it, maybe he snorts it, maybe he bakes it into a flavorful apple pie.  All I'm saying is that as of "Parasite", it MAY have been further illustrated.  He says "So I can sink my teeth in".  Sylar doesn't strike me as a big symbolist, so I doubt he meant it in any way other than literally.DiScOrD tHe LuNaTiC 19:25, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Bryan Fuller, a lead writer for the show, confirmed in [ a podcast] that Sylar does indeed eat brains.  However, the crew chose not to show it on screen because they could not figure out a way to avoid it looking comedic. - fmmarianicolon | Talk 20:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed Discord's text as it does not draw on verifiable sources. There may be a way to reword it to avoid speculation, but as is - it is a theory rather than fact. --Ckatzchatspy 21:19, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Discord, your summary note wasn't necessary. As I said above, if reworded the text about the brains might fit in. Your earlier version *was* speculative, and that is why it was removed. Thank you for replacing it with an appropriate version this time, rather than just reinserting the older version. --Ckatzchatspy 19:23, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  So... does he eat brains or not? 

message: I added an alternate interpretation of how Sylar managed to resist Eden's command and instead attack her. She told him: "I will give you this gun, and then you will kill yourself with it." Since he attacked her before she could give him the gun, the second part of the command never kicked in.StaffanBaloo 04:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As per the discussion on the List of characters in Heroes Talk page, I removed speculation regarding both resistance and poorly phrased commands. StaffanBaloo 04:36, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eden's death 

message: I was wondering if we should add a column, in the table about Sylars murders, that show in what episode Sylars murders are in (the viewers sees them). --Jóna Þórunn 11:02, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 21:13, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good, thanks. --Jóna Þórunn 23:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add column for episodes 

message: In this interview with Bryan Fuller (Already cited on Sylar's page), he says that Sylar's power is an "inherent understing and adaptability", and he  was able to use his powers in the cell to kill Eden because he was "playing possum". (The Sylar part of the interview starts at about the 42 minute mark). Given that description, I think that his original ability is comprised of two seperate comic-book superpowers:
Superhuman Intelligence - Sylar has inherent understanding of how things work.
Reactive adaption/Evolution - Sylar can adapt his own body to various conditions. It's on a much more subtle scale then in comic books, granted, but it's pretty close.
Thoughts?
--Stabbey 13:26, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, he only has the one power, but I guess you could split it into two parts, like how Hiro can teleport, travel through time, and manipulate time, yet it's all classed as space time manipulation. He isn't superhumanly intelligent though, he just knows he things work on a subconscious level. Mixed with his newly aquired eidetic memory however, he could become super humanly intelligent. Jacobshaven3 13:53, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The current "Intuitive Aptitude" listed on Sylar's page sounds good enough. --Stabbey 18:43, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He's also pretty good at fixing watches.--Raymm 06:25, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inherent Understanding and Adaptability 

message: I think it's a bit early to presume Eden's power was stolen. According to the comic, Mr. Bennet and the Haitian burst in on him right after that incident and tranquilized him. Furthermore, during the 30 seconds or so that Mrs. Bennet was lying on the floor, everything was moving in slow-motion, and the clock ticking itself was slowed. This could simply be for effect as Mrs. Bennet is on the ground, stunned; this resembles the "shellshock" effect seen in various WWII films and games, where a nearby explosion causes one's senses to blur and time "slows down". Big Head Zach 15:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. If Sylar had Eden's power he would have used it on Sandra or someone else. Also I'll note that Sylar in Peter's dream in Fallout also used a similar raspy voice. I think he was just trying to be as scary as possible to Sandra. --Stabbey 19:51, 6 February 2007 (UTC)

text: It wasn't a "shellshock effect", it was a slo-mo sequence intended to make the event more suspenseful. His voice isn't any more raspy than usual, it's just deepened because it's time stretched. 89.172.5.214 01:27, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

text: This interview confirms it wasn't Eden's power. It was just how it came out as a result of slowing the scene down. --Stabbey 18:43, 13 February 2007 (UTC)

text: He does not say it 'lower', he says it 'softer' and more in the manner of Dr. Suresh. The confusion on Taylor's part was the difference in the voice on his answering machine from when Suresh first troed to contact him, and the voice/mannerism of the man that shows up on his doorstep. Once Sylar softens his voice Taylor is able to convince himself that this man really is Suresh. Taylor convinced himself, it was nothing Sylar did (power-wise) to influence him. Seriously, this is a dead horse, folks. Eden blew her brains out specifically to prevent Sylar from getting her power. Her sacrifice was dead-on, and she knew it. --Bill W. Smith, Jr. (talk/contribs) 15:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The horse is in critical condition ;) Aborlan 17:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Seems the writers have pulled a fast one, as in .07% he clearly tries to use Eden's power, although it seems that his version is not as irresistable as hers was. Perhaps this is due to the damaged condition of her brain when he ate it? --Bill W. Smith, Jr. (talk/contribs) 06:45, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the 11th graphic novel, "[Eden] gave her life to keep a depraved and dangerous man from gaining her gift." This, combined with the above-mentioned interview, clearly proves that Sylar does not have Eden's power. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 15:37, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Perhaps the voice should still be listed as a power, just with an unknown effect. It may or may not be Eden's power, but we have seen a few different instances where Sylar has drastically deepened his voice, seemingly for intimidation, and I remember at least one instance where Peter did the same thing after gaining the ability to use all his previous powers. I think that, for now, the voice should be mentioned as a possible power, just one that we don't know the effect of yet. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 134.121.122.220 (talk) 20:25, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The low raspy voice 

message: I heard that the Zodiac Killer got his name from a watch, just like how Gabriel got his new name from a watch as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.230.163.153 (talk) 06:11, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I was aware the Zodiac Killer called himself it as a clue to the fact he killed people on astrologically important days, or did I read that incorrectly? Jacobshaven3 13:48, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference to the Zodiac killer? 

message: Someone (or several people?) keep adding a heavily speculative "possible powers" section. In addition to disrupting the flow of the article with a large heading, this section is pre speculation and OR. Are there any steps that can be taken to stop this person (blocking, page locking, etc?)? - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 01:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If it continues, it might require seeking a block on that IP. The anon in question is continually adding speculative text that has now been removed by several different editors. --Ckatzchatspy 08:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "possible powers" section 

message: Is it too speculative for now to mention something along the lines of that Sylar wanted Claire's ability so that, coupled with his own current regeneration, his would be enhanced into a practically invincible state, something like Superman? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Goroloiath (talk • contribs) 2007-02-19
:Yes. --Kmsiever 17:01, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Claire

message: Would like to see something on Sylar's motivations.  A couple of times he has implied that the killings are part of an evolutionary imperative.  In the episode "Run!", while posing as Zane Taylor, he describes having an epiphany about his (Taylor's?) ability, and asks Mohinder if he is familiar with Abraham Maslow and the "peak experience".  There is some interesting phychology going on with the character if someone can find the right way to write about it. -MrFizyx 00:32, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have sourced information regarding his motivations, please add it. Keep in mind that what he told Mohinder may be part of a ruse and he didn't actually have an epiphany. --Kmsiever 19:27, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the reply.  Lacking any real source, seems someone has reasonably covered this already under: Sylar#Personality. -MrFizyx 19:34, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motivation 

message: Changed "Atomic Liquification" to "Molecular Manipulation".  Atomic liquification implies liquefying atoms which is incorrect.  The power is the ability to control the inter-atomic and inter-molecular bonds of a solid object, thus, molecular manipulation.  Given that there's also no exchange of heat or visible exchange of energy, I'd say my edit makes this powers' description far more accurate. 203.14.180.98 07:28, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: List of Powers

message: Now seriously, her power didn't get absorbed! Hiro changed the past which lead Charlie to an earlier death. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.80.122.234 (talk) 06:25, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If your theory was correct, then most things that happened before Hiro traveled back in time would not have happened, and the story would not make sense. Besides, apparently the comic reveals his use of Charlie's memory. Bio 18:30, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I could be totally off-base, but, it appears, from what _I_ remember of Six Months Ago that Charlie simply told Hiro that she would die soon because of the whatever-it-was. He felt sad, they tried to kiss, and he disappeared. The result that I arrived at was that he left her there and, as a result, she died again. Regardless of how it happened, the comic does reveal that Sylar took it. See "Road Kill": "Soon after I killed her, I don't know...I just seem to be remembering things lately." AFAIK, that's canon. Valaqil 15:10, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Plus theres a scene with Charlie bleeding down her forehead, a Sylar signature, I believe.--Raymm 06:30, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charlie Didn't Get Absorbed 

message: The episode the Fix, does Sylar display the power to make himself appear dead, and then resurrect himself later? 66.109.248.114
:That could be another power or it could simply be another use of one of the powers we already know he has. It could also just be bad doctoring. We don't know enough to put it in the article. --dws90 16:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: POWER LEFT OUT

message: When does Sylar take this alias? can we get a source on that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.189.155.40 (talk) 11:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The proper alias is Drew O'Grady, according to "Road Kill", page four. http://www.nbc.com/Heroes/novels/downloads/Heroes_novel_020.pdf I'll add it in. Valaqil 15:36, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drew Grady? 

message: If someone is going to post detailed descriptions of episodes which have not aired, PLEASE insert a spoiler warning immediately ahead of the material- the one at the top of the page is not adequate. I went to this page for a little information and found the entire plot for the March 5th episode revealed only hours before I could watch it. Saxophobia 01:14, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not how spoiler tags work... The entire page can be considered spoiler material if you haven't watched any of the episodes, hence the tag at the top of the page. --Pentasyllabic 02:13, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

text: The episode first aired on March 4th... in Canada. If the page included information for episodes that had *not* aired, that would indeed be rather lame. There does seem to be a lot of douchebags here at Wikipedia intent on ruining other people's enjoyment. (ie: editing all the '24' character pages a month and half prior to the premiere) But as it is, I think this case is fair game. 75.162.21.161 03:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spolier Warnings PLEASE!!! 

message: Lets not forget how Sylar was talking to Mr. Muggles when he was at Claire's house. This must be another random power he got somewhere along the line. Sure, we don't know the full extent/nature of this power, but it obviously is a power and its existence is clear enough to be mentioned (in my opinion). AllUltima 04:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: you can be serious... my mom talks to our dog all the time, so what? -Xornok 05:11, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay I watched it again and i suppose it cannot be confirmed that he was actually getting a response. Sylar's acting seemed to indicate that he was able to understand Mr. Muggles. I guess this is at best implied so.. never mind AllUltima 06:07, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Though that would be another interesting power, it's mostly just that people talk to pets. Plus, remember, the guy's bat-guano crazy. --Valley2city₪‽ 06:14, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sylar can talk to pets! 

message: The official NBC site Activating Evolution states in its wiki section that the freezing power, Cryokinesis, was originally possessed by James Walker. It's an NBC run site, so it is an official source. I was going to add it in, but someone left a comment not to, so I wanted to start a consensus first in case there is a legitimate reason to leave it out.   Anticrash  talk  06:10, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an NBC-run site, but anyone can edit that wiki. I don't have a feeling on it one way or another, but I have seen some comment that we should avoid using information from other wikis since unverified information can be added into them. Valaqil 15:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's a wiki, but more than that, James walker was frozen solid whilst eating, unless Sylar already had the power, how could he do that before killing James? Jacobshaven3 13:29, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Stop him in place with TK then aquire the power then freeze him as a result of not being able to control his powers (Sylar usually has a minute or two where he can't quite get a grip on the new power).  It's entirely possible to freeze someone AFTER aquiring the power.  Padillah 17:38, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cryokinesis 

message: As far as I can tell, sylar's "liquidation" ability is not that broad, all of the objects that he turns to "liquid" (and the person that he takes the power from) are metal, and from what i can tell these pools of liquid then solidify.  I'm wondering if this ability is really just the ability to manipulate the structure of a metal object, but sylar hasn't learned to control it fully yet.
Admittedly, there is no counter-evidence to suggest that he can't turn other objects to liquid, i'm just saying that it seems to be the only thing that he targets.
Yelirekim 01:48, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is counter-evidence. Watch the original scene with Zane. There are multiple melted items, including, if I am not mistaken, a plastic phone. Valaqil 15:14, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Liquidation 

message: Technically, Sylar DID kill Peter, though he regenerated later.  I suppose Isaac wouldn't be counted as this was in the "future", but it's still him killing.211.30.223.128 12:09, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unofficial deaths? 

message: There is a whole paragraph in this article, which I think never really happened in the series, and so should be deleted. The paragraph in question is located under the topic called "1.5 Roaming Again":
While on the run once more, the bullet wounds annoy Sylar. He notes that things would be easier if he had Claire Bennet's healing factor. To go "north" and out of "Podunk, Texas," Sylar hitches a ride with a semi-truck driver. After realizing the driver is really heading West, Sylar kills him and hijacks the delivery truck. Police eventually follow Sylar, but he easily escapes them by using his powers to put ice on the road and then jump/fly out of the truck as it crashes over the embankment. Sylar also notes that he is down to the last person he can remember from Chandra's list. Thus, he ends up at the home of this person, and the events of "Run!" begin.
Alondono 02:37, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's in one of the Heroes graphic novels. --Pentasyllabic 05:38, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did this really happen? 

message: when Sylar uses telekinies he mostly uses his fingure to direct the object movement, but when peter uses telekinies he doesn't have to move a fingure. So would the finger movement mean Sylar needs help to direct his power or its a stronger way or he just likes to move his fingur?- Red 4/3 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.16.89.117 (talk) 21:15, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He probably just likes to do it. It's a relatively easy way to focus on what he's doing. Valaqil 13:05, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  telekinies 

message: In the table in the sub-section "Killings", David (from Chicago) is credited with having the power of Cold Manipulation.  The footnote, from what I could tell, doesn't cite where this was power was confirmed to belong to David.  The Graphic Novel of his death doesn't confirm this.  Is this power entry simply speculation?  If there is confirmation, it should be noted. Hiro DynoSlayer 21:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is definitely speculation. It has not been revealed, and has been removed. Thanks for the watchful eye. Valaqil 21:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They did it again.  I'll get it.  Padillah 13:40, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  David credited with Cold Manipulation 

message: Should Sylar's power of Telekinesis be changed to Psychokinesis, which is apparently the preferred terminology in use on Wikipedia? After all, Tk just redirects straight to Pk anyways WookMuff 10:10, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Although I agree that psychokinesis would be a better term to use, as far as I'm aware that it's consensus to use the term "telekinetic" when describing fiction unless psychokinesis is used in the text. Jacobshaven3 13:26, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tk vs Pk 

message: It really looks like he used Eden's voice power on Isaac Mendez in 0.07. Odd, especially since Eden shot herself in the brain to avoid having her power absorbed by Sylar. Kimera757 03:00, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Other information indicates that he eats the brains of his victims.  Now, unless by some magic he can swallow a whole brain without damage, he'll probably need to chew it.  Maybe a bullet hole through a brain doesn't destroy whatever it is that he needs (the DNA?)Smiley1437 04:58, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Several previously cited references prove she stopped him from taking her power. Notice Isaac never told Sylar, no matter what Sylar said. It's used as emphasis that he's angry. The editors think it's "cool". How many times is this going to need to be repeated? Jacobshaven3 13:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

text: In addition, Sylar was subdued before he had any chance to cut open her head. There is absolutely no proof he absorbed her power and substantial evidence that implies he did not. In addition, Eden didn't have a voice power; she had a mind control power. --Kmsiever 14:47, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: She had a mind control power that relied upon her voice. He eats brains, not 'living brains', and absorbs the genetic material. as such, a few chunks picked off the glass would suffice. Given his oft portrayed lust for more powers, I can't see that being beyond his 'morality' to eat a brain in pieces. Until there's a citation that he doesn't have the power, all the evidence given in the series goes to a common sense decision that it IS her power. ThuranX 13:17, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As I already stated, Sylar was subdued before he had any chance to do anything to Eden. If he indeed absorbs power by eating brains, then he doesn't have Eden's power because he did not eat her brain. He didn't even cut open her head. --Kmsiever 13:53, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

text:  He clearly has not absorbed her power. Everyone should re-watch the episode Unexpected, and take note of the fact that Peter's voice also gets deeper when he uses telekinesis to send Isaac flying backwards into some of his paintings. Also, in the episode Parasite (and in the repetition of the same footage in .07%), Sylar's voice goes deep again when he says "I remember you." But, the deepness of voice is allegedly only attached to the Eden's power. But what Sylar said was not a command of any kind. He does not have Eden's power.GraniteJJ 01:03, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Voice, Part Two 

message: Hiro and Ando refer to Sylar as the brain man in .07%. can we use this to supplement the 'he eats brains' thing? ThuranX 13:18, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No... he uses the brains in some fashion, but he doesn't necessarily eat them. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 14:48, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah. Hiro saw Isaac's brain cut out in the future, and Charlie's brain scooped out in the present. I think Hiro calls him the Brain Man because he takes brains (Hiro has not witnessed the telekinesis), just like he calls Nathan Petrelli the Flying Man because he flies. Hiro could really use a lesson in his fellow heroes' names.GraniteJJ 01:07, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  He eats brains. It's stated in a comic pod casts interview. However, it's not been shown on screen to avoid zombie comparisons. It should only be included if shown on screen, or if in a Trivia section. Regardless, it's not integral to the article whether he eats the brains or not. Jacobshaven3 01:14, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  'the brain man' 

message: Ok. I know it's a popular theory. But several interviews have stated now that the deep voice is not him using Eden's power, but a "cool" effect used by the editors. I'll add citations but if people would just look in the archives it would already be obvious. Even without the citation as proof, when Isaac is questioned by Sylar using the "cool" voice effect, Isaac doesn't tell him, even after extreme torture. If Sylar had Eden's power, he wouldn't need to do any of the stuff he needs to do. He'd be able to stop people with a single phrase, ask them to stop breathing, etc... Mr. Bennett told Eden's father that she was a Hero and that her death wasn't in vain. If Sylar had gotten her power how would this be true? Jacobshaven3 01:19, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: One need only read this article to see he did not acquire her power. "While he informs her that her power will help him immensely, she points the gun to her own head and fires, killing herself and preventing Sylar from acquiring her power. Bennet and the Haitian then rush into the cell and subdue him with a tranquillizer gun." He never had a chance. He was subdued right after Eden shot herself. --Kmsiever 01:53, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sylar does not have Eden's power 

message: Under the future tag, I'm pretty sure the power that Peter was using was Ted Sprague's radioactivity, and not the simple flame creation of Merideth Gordon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.100.77.76 (talk) 03:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future 

message: "The graphic novel "String Theory" revealed that, in the original timeline of the series, before Hiro attempted to alter it, Sylar was originally the "exploding man" who would decimate New York."
I disagree with this sentence.  The novel is from Hiro's view; all it shows is that Hiro believes that Sylar was the bomb.  In the altered timeline where Claire is alive, this is shown to be a common but incorrect view.  It's quite possible that the bomb in both the original and altered timeline was Peter.--Trystan 15:40, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hiro stabbed Sylar, but because Sylar had Claires regeneration he survived. This no longer happened. However, Peter did become the bomb. Hiro was there when Sylar exploded, so I'd say it's safe to believe him. Jacobshaven3 20:32, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The way I interpreted it is the same as Jacobshaven3. Since Claire is still alive and Peter, not Sylar is the bomb, this would indicate that the timeline future-Hiro returns to is no longer his "original" timeline but rather the "real" timeline of the show. One thing I'm wondering about is why Hiro still needs to kill Sylar, as shown in the 9th Wonders issue from the future, given that future-Hiro's actions caused Peter and not Sylar to become the bomb. --Pentasyllabic 22:56, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm wondering this myself.  But there's also the effect of having Sylar to blame and having Sylar (as Nathan) stir up hatred and bigotry.  I don't think Sylar needs to be killed because he's the bomb but rather because his powers and influence caused the situation we see in Five Years Gone.  Padillah 12:37, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't it be easier if Hiro just went back and killed Ted before all this began, then no-one could explode... Just an idea. --Crazypete101 09:14, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  What did Ted do wrong? Yeah it's easier but he's innocent regarding all of this, the only reason Peter became radioactive is because they were in New York. He should have left. Jacobshaven3 11:23, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Identity of the Bomb 

message: Several occurrences of "Candice Wilmer" in the article have been changed to Candace Willmer, breaking a couple of links.  Is there a source we could use to determine the correct spelling?--Trystan 15:29, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to NBC'c official recap, "Claire pays a surprise visit to Mr. Bennett's prison cell at Primatech Paper, though he's quick to recognize that it's really Candice, the illusion caster." Is that good enough? Several other recaps: , , , , and  all spell her name 'Candice". - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 16:14, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Candice Wilmer: Spelling 

message: A survey regarding the verifiability of these powers has begun here. --Ckatzchatspy 23:38, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to WP:V, an external source has to verify that that scene was in fact the cryokinesis. It is also still unknown that cryokinesis cam from Walker. It may seem obvious, but WP:V insists that an external source verify it, rather than drawing conclusions (even "obvious" ones, unless it is explicitly stated in the show, such as Nathan flying) ourselves. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 01:35, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Cryokinesis is a neologism. Cold Manipulation is the correct term. Regardless, Walker was killed by being frozen, thus he can't possibly have had the power, unless his head was chopped off whilst he ate, then he was frozen. Jacobshaven3 01:54, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, why is being new regarded as "bad"?  We can't use reletivly new words to describe things in Wikipedia?  Just because it's the new term doesn't mean it's incorrect.  Cryokinesis is just as correct as Pyrokinesis.  Padillah 12:42, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I am pro neologisms, however wikipedia policy, WP:NEO, is against them. We had a lengthy debate a while back at List of comic book superpowers and had to change all our powers to non neologisms. Jacobshaven3 17:14, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't see how the ice and fog effects which are used to depict the cryokinesis power are any less obvious than Nathan's flying power.--Trystan 04:42, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Sylar's hands simply turned blue. Sprague's EMP effect looked similar. Peter's hand glowed orange, which looked like Sprague's normal radiation effect. Maybe it was two types of radiation, or may it was fire and ice. Until an outside source verifies one, we can't put it in the article. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 06:06, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also Ted's EMP looks NOTHING like what Gabriel's hands do in the episode. Billywhack 02:27, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *sigh* Fine. Upon further review, it does indeed appear that your description is accurate. Just don't attribute the cryokinesis to James Walker. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 03:10, 4 May 2007 (UTC)

text: First, you mean David. Brain Davis was Sylar's first victim. Second, there were several victims between Davis and Walker, any one of whom may have given Sylar cold manipulation powers. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 02:15, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cryokinesis in "Five Years Gone" 

message: It seems unnecessary to me for this article to have a second box showing the powers he has in the alternate time-line, as there is a paragraph above it that states the same thing. It just appears redundant. Similar to this, I've noticed that the other skills sections is a shorter, less detailed version of Names and Aliases. Briememory 02:31, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I merged "other skills" with "Names and aliases". - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 03:51, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second "Power Box" 

message: I made the change, taking it off, and it was already put back. No desire to get into a revert war. "Occupation" as used a person's template on Wikipedia means their employment. For any example, look at a famous killer's page (such as Charles Manson, David Berkowitz, Harold Shipman, etc.), the occupation listed, where one is, is always a person's employment status. Yes, a dictionary definition of the word will include both "a person's usual or principal work or business" and "any activity in which a person is engaged." But there are also many more definitions. In the context of these articles, occupation equals employment. 160.39.30.190 04:46, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know whether it's semantically correct or not, but it does offer useful information about the character, which seems like the most important thing.--Trystan 04:49, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it does say that he's a serial killer in the first line of the article. This isn't that important to me, so if the consensus is to keep it I won't bring it up again. Just pointing out that stylistically in Wikipedia that spot is used for a person's employment. 160.39.30.190 04:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm with 160.39.30.190, "serial killer" is not an occupation.  It may be what occupies his time but it is not an occupation by any streach.  Padillah 12:45, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Eventually, Sylar became a notorious serial killer"  How do we know he became notorious?--Raymm 06:20, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say it's fair in the future he became considered (erroneously) a notorious mass murderer. Billywhack 04:11, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Occupation: Serial Killer?

message: Should it be noted that Sylar was above to use multiple powers simultaneously? (For example, he flew while maintaining the illusion of Nathan's appearance.) - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 23:34, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simultaneous use of powers 

message: A survey regarding the verifiability of these powers has begun here. --Ckatzchatspy 23:39, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And it has been settled, whether you and Matthew want to admit it or not. Billywhack 02:41, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survey re: powers in "Five Years Gone" 

message: It's been strongly established that Sylar is a Narcissist in the extreme, believing that it is his destiny to be more than a Watchmaker's son. Also, he states that he kills other Heroes because it is only "natural selection" to him and that killing the innocent who hold no value for him is not what he wants to do. This is shown in both The Hard Part and Six Months Ago. This, in my opinion, must be added to the article because it is what makes Sylar tick. I'm just not sure how to do it. Any opinions would be appreciated. dposse 01:00, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  personality 

message: Should Sylar get his own artwork section like Issac even though he's only made a few paintings? Darkhero31 01:15, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: By this reasoning, should Peter? Short answer I'd go with - no. --75.2.57.228 10:30, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely wouldn't deserve it's own page. It might work to put his (and Peter's) stuff on the Artwork of Isaac Mendez page and re-title it something like "Artwork of Heroes." Novastarj 16:45, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artwork 

message: Technically, the TOC isn't a spoiler, and I hate when the horizontal lines run into other image- and info-boxes. - SigmaEpsilon → ΣΕ 19:50, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top-of-page formatting