Talk:Colectivo

message: ¿Do you have any reference for this statement?--Km9 (talk) 04:55, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: *In the Italian architectural journal Avitare,  Fulvio Inace cites about the Colectivos: "Buenos Aires offers its residents one of the most highly organized and least expensive public transportation systems in the world.",  maybe data should be re-emphasized by moving it to a more predominant paragraph, will look for additional references! Lol, Moebiusuibeom-en (talk) 13:55, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Praised by Urban planners? 

message: The tradition of the Colectivo is not dead. But blurred. 
It continues being recognized socially in Buenos Aires. 
But it was modernized. Also, they use simpler colors (only one, even), lost the fileteados. Are mostly Bus-Buses, etc.
Not so far like extinguished, as some investigator wrote.--Zzzzzzus 13:50, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blur, not death 

message: WOW!!! I love this section too !!! --Zzzzzzus 05:16, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: :It needs a lot of copyedit... I'll try to do it. If I can finish it, I will nominate. --Sebastian Kessel Talk 16:01, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I dont know I changed my mind ... whatever --Zzzzzzus 16:57, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? What do you mean you changed your mind? I've been working on the article for the last hour! --Sebastian Kessel Talk 17:02, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ehemm... Why not ??? 

message: I am about to nominate this article for Peer Review. Please refrain from making changes not related to this review until this process is complete. Then, we can nominate for FA.
--Sebastian Kessel Talk 17:21, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer Review 

message: hahah that was great --Zzzzzzus 17:38, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  To add insult to injury 

message: Emphasize the fact that they competed with the English companies, at the beginning of the article...  ...
:ZZZ, I think it's plenty clear that "Colectivo" and "Bus" are two different things, especially since the spirit of the article refers to the individual Buenos Aires staple and not the concept of a multi passenger vehicle. The comparison is not that relevant and we need to keep the intro succint. See Wikipedia:The perfect article and Wikipedia:What is a featured article
:--Sebastian Kessel Talk 17:44, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  ok... i agree with you ... Let us leave the commentary just in this section, then. But remember that for the porteño is: Perón, Malvinas, Maradona... blah blah blah, ;-D --Zzzzzzus 13:35, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  first section 

message: :To start with, there are colectivos all around Argentina, not just in BA. Ejrrjs | What? 20:57, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: True, although they don't share the same folk characteristics. Feel free to edit to accomodate this statements. --Sebastian Kessel Talk 21:00, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats not true. El Colectivo is just like the futbol (or almost everything in Argentina), something Metropolitano, unitarist. To think in other way is erroneous (and ridiculous). The real federalism of Argentina (a coincidence) started with Menem in 1990 (when the blurring of the colectivo tradition). Again the example of La Fiesta De Todos, Argentina played in Rosario, but all the histories are in the buildings of Buenos Aires... not "all around". That populism of the Proceso dictated this time that Argentina is: Buenos Aires, Futbol, Malvinas, Peron, etc... Yo can go to discuss that to Videla and the Military Forces of those years... But its not recommendable.--Zzzzzzus 15:21, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colectivos all around Argentina 

message: :Santiago regresa al paradero, el colectivo que toma es un Chevrolet y tiene la :radio encendida, in Mario Vargas Llosa, Conversación en La Catedral (1969), : 
:This is Lima circa 1955. Further descriptions indicate that it is the same :kind of public transportation than the original colectivo porteño. Perhaps some Peruvian wikipedian could help on this one. Ejrrjs | What? 21:14, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Chevrolet its only one kind of van-buses, before the arrival of Mercedes Benz. --Zzzzzzus 13:39, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that these details are (somehow) superficial. Also were elements like some corporations of bus-buses, that lasted a decade (without the colectivo characteristics, and competed and they lost one more time because were pushed out of the system, eventually)... And some companies took the Mercedes Benz and pushed the motors to the back (called chanchas)... But its not the kind of things that appeared in La Fiesta de Todos, in example, that was a Mercedes Benz with knick nacks and fileteados, and nothing else... If Jorge Rafael Videla says... I wont discuss him... (its scary)--Zzzzzzus 13:45, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mario Vargas Llosa 

message: Dont worry the next are just commentaries to the Talk section...
In the last days (with all this Wiki article) I observed something very funny in Buenos Aires (and I live in the Once neighborhood and move around watching a lot of colectivos, daily; besides that my uncle is colectivero and owns a colectivo)... 
Some lines are keeping the last blurred colectivo traditions delibertely. Like declaring: "this is a colectivo", with all the characteristics descripted in the WIki-article.
:Lineas 60, 68, and others (20%)→ Mercedes Benz+Fileteado+Keeping colors. All this built out from the body of the units factories. (of Bus-Buses)
:Lineas 86, 84, 135, and others (40%)→ El Detalle units + clean block of colors (white, blue, red). Like embarrassed to paint the units, and put fileteados, etc. And this lines before 1990 were just like the first ones.
:Lineas 24, and others  (40%)→ changing from the first to the second.
This is very notorious. With some of the líneas fighting with others to keep (or not) the tradition.
That recognizes the argumentational lines of the article ... thats the evidence that this is the way the Colectivo tradition is.--Zzzzzzus 13:35, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  THIS IS WAR !!!... Survival of the Colectivo traditions Buenos Aires' streets 

message: This article is beautiful.
First Hollywood film or mod to Midtown Madness, please me, in the ... Argentinian Legion !!! :-D --Zzzzzzus 13:35, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remember me ... 

message: A suggestion, Sebas: Wider the main picture of the colectivo 271, to the double of its actual size.--Zzzzzzus 06:46, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bigger main pic 

message: Sorry I really think it's irrelevant, and confuses who tries to discover the real Colectivo.
I don't know... about this, I suppose that the most concrete example (that I saw in my life) could be 60-38 (in the 1980s daily there, in Barrancas de Belgrano). 
But sincerely, it's completely irrelevant. --Zzzzzzus 03:54, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: ZZZ, it is actually very relevant. What is irrelevant is naming lines one by one. Colectivos are not present only in BA and mentioning one by one is not appropriate. Colectivo 60 has its own page, you're welcome to create more if you think it's good. Sebastian Kessel Talk 18:56, 6 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats simply not true... Both things. Whatever. --24.232.152.200 01:50, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "corporate colors", 

message: The buses in Paraguay are also called "colectivos" - should that be mentioned? zafiroblue05 | Talk 04:17, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: By all means. Is it the preferred word, or it is only also used? Mariano(t/c) 08:57, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely preferred (particularly in rural areas). zafiroblue05 | Talk 12:55, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Paraguay

message: Bloomberg article needs to be worked in here.  SandyGeorgia (Talk)  17:43, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Masked thugs