Talk:Mental health professional

message: The purpose of the article is to clarify & compare the roles of specific mental health professionals (i.e. Psychiatrists vs. psychologists, therapists vs. social workers).  There are many articles showcasing specific differences within the specific fields, however no articles had yet adequately bridged the gap between therapists, psychologists and psychiatrists, etc.  Certain articles would briefly touch on the subject comparing only one other mental health professional with the main article.
I hope this article continues to do two things long after I'm done editing it - 1. Respectfully and accurately compares the differences between mental health professionals both in education/training required and specialties.  The general theme of the article should leave the reader to understand that nearly all mental health professionals, especially those who are certified, are fully capable of treating mental disorders or problems with varying treatment options, and if they are not capable of dealing with a specific case will refer the patient to the specialized professional.  2. Presents a summary of all known (keeping a world view) mental health professionals.  I have tried to always notate main articles & see-alsos throughout the article.  This should not be the one-stop place to find all information on a specific professional (purpose of main article linking), but should provide a concise summary of each for the purpose of comparison and definition of what mental health professionals are.
I've seen a lot of weird and derogatory comments on the Internet, some from certified professionals themselves making inaccurate comments about professions (i.e. "You call a clinical psychologist a doctor but they aren't really doctors" or "Psychiatrists only use medication to treat patients they never actually work through the problems")  I hope this article sort of combats this.  I feel its important to accurately and respectfully compare differences (like mentioning a Ph.D. and an M.D. are both doctorates & psychiatrists are in fact trained in providing therapy).
Finally, I've added a tag for an expert to correct and/or add any critical missing information in the article.  Although I'm studying to go into this field, I'm still only an undergraduate and there are people out there that know a LOT more than I do :).  I've quoted and/or sourced all material (sometimes paraphrasing) from the other specific articles.  Again, please remember these aren't the main articles for each profession so we shouldn't have too large of a description for each, but if I'm leaving out important items or mentioning non-important ones, please add them.  Chupper 14:26, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
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message: Although this section brings up interesting issues, it doesn't fit within an article listing and describing mental health professionals. It seems arbitrary and doesn't serve to add any light to the general topic. I move to delete it from this article and merge it into Mental health. Psykhosis 17:09, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I say go for it. Chupper 17:18, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Move to delete and merge section on [[Mental_health_professional#Cultural_and_religious_considerations|Cultural and religious considerations]]

message: I removed the following section on the grounds that it is outside the scope of the article. Perhaps it or something like it could be integrated into the mental health article. Psykhosis 18:55, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
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message: It may be helpful for the purposes of comparison to have more details of the training of the different professions, as long as it is understood that no-one stops learning when they get their diploma, and practice a decade or two later may be very different, even unrecognisably so.
I add a longer account of psychiatric training in the UK. If others think it is useful, it could be integrated into the main article.
Psychiatric trainees are generally in full-time medical practice and in the UK would have one day a week to attend lectures and other educational events, including the minority who are enrolled in an MSc or MPhil programme: which means that, unlike old-style undergraduates, they have to derive the bulk of their information from their individual reading, and also from their experiences and discussions at work, rather than from lectures. Although there would be an examination syllabus, generally expressed in broad terms, there would be no prescribed textbooks and so the balance of the learning achieved would depend on the individual's interests and aptitude as well as on colleagues, superiors and the kinds of patients treated and methods used in the particular series of departments to which they happen to be allocated. This would be as true of other kinds of medical specialties, and also other professions which are studied "on the job," such as accountancy, management and clinical psychology.
In the UK it used to be common for psychiatric trainees to have several years of supervision for psychodynamic psychotherapy, and less commonly group therapy, but nowadays brief psychotherapies and a variety of psychological techniques would also be taught, depending on the availability of trainers: which may be the limiting factor. The trainers would be those who do a lot of this kind of work and have time free for teaching: who may be full-time psychotherapists, psychiatrists or psychologists, or less often nurses or occupational therapists. In the National Health Service the more time-consuming therapies may be given largely by trainees at various levels, with supervision by a fully trained therapist. Personal analysis is rarely undergone except by those who are specifically training as psychotherapists or (rarely) psychoanalysts: it may still be commoner for intending child than adult psychiatrists. Family therapy is mainly found in child psychiatry departments: full training would take four years and would involve an outside institute, as with group therapy and some forms of individual psychotherapy. Hypnosis has almost died out, except in the guise of "relaxation therapy."
Information on drugs comes constantly from all directions, from both industry and government-backed sources, and the books and journals a trainee would read, as well as observing seniors' practice. Lectures account for very little of this.
Psychiatry in the UK is much more highly regulated than other branches of medicine, so hearings and tribunals are frequently held for detained inpatients, as well as other kinds of review meetings with outside participation for a wider range of clients, and so psychiatrists have to keep abreast of changes in details of the law: there is a specific accreditation for this.
The more biological side of psychiatry has been less well taught in the UK since the 1970s: previously, there was a two year diploma course in psychological medicine (DPM) which some neurologists also took, which required more neuroscience at the beginning and neurology at the end than does the current membership examination of the Royal College of Psychiatrists. A proportion of psychiatrists had previously trained and qualified in internal medicine: this is now uncommon, but more have gone through general practice training first - which may also stop with the 2007 reorganisation of postgraduate medical education. NRPanikker 22:41, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
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message: I am a non-native speaker to which the usage of the word "shrink" to refer to mental health professional is not obvious. For example, I am not sure whether it be used in an informal context with somebody who is actively seeking therapy. "Are you going to the shrink tomorrow?" Could somebody add a section to this article about this particular word? Cristiklein (talk) 08:48, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It is informal, jocular. Short form of 'headshrinker'. It is like calling a surgeon a 'sawbones', or a general practitioner a 'quack'. Not scientific language, and perhaps offensive to some. 121.44.210.246 (talk) 07:04, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
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