Talk:Gordie Howe

message: I've heard (& it's a record unlikely to be equalled) Howe played on a record 21 All-Star teams.  Trekphiler 08:04, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: And almost certainly won't be.  Most of Howe's career took place in a league with a hundred players in it; that Ray Bourque was named to nineteen season end All-Star Teams in the expansion era is remarkable -- Gretkzy himself fell well short.  Ravenswing 17:42, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: 21 All-Star teams?

message: Is there a source for the trivia item that he's never actually recorded a Gordie Howe hat-trick? I personally find it hard to believe that in 2186 games, 975 goals, and 1385 assists, he's never had at least one game where he scored a goal and an assist, and also a fighting penalty. --Legalizeit 03:39, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 7 years later... there are two sources and they disagree.   The article currently states: "It should be noted, however, that Howe himself only recorded one Gordie Howe hat trick in his career,[5] on October 10, 1953, and March 21, 1954.[6]", which is obviously not acceptable. 108.127.160.149 (talk) 17:17, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gordie Howe hat-trick 

message: I just went over that mrandmrshockey.com page, and I can't see a single damn section in this article that's taken from there.  Quite aside from that I'm one of the many editors who've worked on it, and wrote my copy myself, thank you!  That this comes from an anon IP registered today and with eight actual edits is highly suspect, and given the large copyvio backlog, I want to see some line-by-line proof of copyvios -- and any such section changed rather than the whole article held hostage -- before such an important article gets put on the shelf for a few weeks.  Ravenswing 07:39, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alleged copyvio 

message: I put up a photo request tag as we need a picture of Gordie Howe.  Mr. C.C. 07:36, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good luck.  More than most players, Howe's pretty fierce about copyrighted images.    Ravenswing  12:26, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added an image from Commons. It's not the best option for the infobox. Hopefully someone else can come up with a live picture and this image can be moved down further into the article. Accurizer 23:04, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty ironic how Bart Simpson misappropriated his image, then. Maybe a screenshot would be an appropriate addition.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 23:26, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture of Gordie Howe

message: See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 04:56, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations & references

message: It appears that the stats given for Godie Howe are incorrect and incomplete.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thright (talk • contribs) 19:43, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stats 

message: I changed the portion under "Achievements" to say:
# "His number, 9, was retired by both the Detroit Red Wings and the Hartford Whalers. Although the Houston Aeros Howe played for no longer exist, the AHL team of the same name has also retired his number."
I then removed the comment about his retired number in the "Trivia" section, as it was rather redundant.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.30.108.183 (talk) 18:35, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retired number 

message: Per WP:HOCKEY's decision to remove the nickname field from the infobox, it is being moved here for use later. "| nickname = Mr. Hockey, Elbows" -Djsasso (talk) 21:40, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nickname 

message: Can anyone find a source for this, that is not self-published? It doesn't conform with policy:Wikipedia:BLP#Reliable_sources--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 17:06, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Richard saying "Gordie could do everything" 

message: I don't think it is significant enough to be in the lead section. A footnote to it would suffice to support the 'one of greatest hockey players' statement. The Hockey News list is already mentioned in the article--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 20:04, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough, I added it just to try and support the associated claim, but I see your point.  Remove it if you like.  Orlandkurtenbach (talk) 20:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Hockey News list 

message: An attempt is made to gauge the probability of the average reader of Wikipedia needing to look up the topic (and thus the immediate need to have a suitably well-written article on it).  Topics which may seem obscure to a Western audience—but which are of high notability in other places—should still be highly rated.SriMesh | talk 03:44, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Raised importance rating

message: IN THE WIKIPEDIA ARTICLE "GORDIE HOWE" IT STATES ON PARAGRAPH 2,"PLAYING CAREER", "...GORDIE HOWE WAS THE FIRST PLAYER IN NHL HISTORY TO PLAY ON THE SAME TEAM WITH HIS FATHER SYD HOWE..."  THE WIKI ARTICLE "SYD HOWE" SAYS "ALTHOUGH NOT RELATED, RIGHT WING GORDIE HOWE JOINED THE REDWINGS THE FOLLOWING SEASON (1946-47)..." (PARAGRAPH 8).  REFER ALSO TO "JOE PELLETIER'S GREATEST HOCKEY LEGENDS.COM" 
Cuddybear130 (talk) 21:08, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This and much other incorrect information about Gordie appears to have all been added on April 11 by an anonymous user (24.83.129.239) located near Vancouver. All of these edits have now been deleted and the article restored to its status quo ante. (Centpacrr (talk) 21:45, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  SYD HOWE WAS NOT GORDIE HOWE'S FATHER 

message: Born in 1928, died 2009', could not have been 76.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.89.205.48 (talk) 22:04, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Howe is not dead. His wife died at age 76 in 2009 the article does not mention when she was born.--Mo Rock...Monstrous  (leech44) 05:32, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthdate, date of death and age are not right 

message: The current sentence reads:  "Mark Messier retired only 11 NHL games behind Howe at 1,756 (and counting minor league action and playoffs, 2,048 total professional games), but this is over five seasons away from 2,478 total professional games (including minor league action), almost a thousand games ahead of the active career leader at the end of 2012 (Roman Hamrlik)."
Roman Hamrlik is now retired.  I don't know how to update this sentence because I don't know where to look for the correct data.  Specifically, I don't know whether Jagr's overseas experience should be included in his game total.  Nonetheless, it should be updated. Sxg169 (talk) 23:59, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That whole paragraph is a bit of a train wreck. I suggest just removing the info about the active career leader.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 19:00, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Legacy" section Update Required: Hamrlik retired 

message: Did Gordie Howe own a house in Edmonton?174.7.204.250 (talk) 18:28, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  houses owned by gordie howe 

message: Gordie Howe
Ice hockey player
New England Whalers IHL— Preceding unsigned comment added by Malcolmmwa (talk • contribs) 14:18, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: At the bottom of that box on the Google search page you can click on "Feedback" to let them know about the problem and it might get dealt with more quickly. Google will automatically update its cache of the page eventually.--SaskatchewanSenator (talk) 16:53, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Google search 

message: An anonymous user added the following today: "For the 1974–75 WHA season, the Los Angeles Sharks were relocated to Detroit as the Michigan Stags, presenting an opportunity for Howe to make his professional return to the Motor City. However, as the Aeros were not scheduled to play the Stags in Detroit until February, the opportunity was lost when the Stags folded on January 18th, 1975. The WHA would revive the franchise less than a week later, but as the Baltimore Blades, playing their remaining home schedule (including all of their home games against the Aeros) at the Baltimore Civic Center."
Apart from needing a citation or two, I wonder about the relevancy of the information. Does anyone else think that this information should be removed as irrelevant?
Sxg169 (talk) 00:51, 1 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it since it describes something that never materialized and isn't really relevant to Howe. Teemu08 (talk) 18:50, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Info in WHA section 

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John Paul Parks (talk) 14:59, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you be specific as to what you are talking about here?  One of the images? The stats? Resolute 16:54, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright Issue 

message: Howe is a U.S. figure, specifically associated with Detroit, Michigan, and he is primarily of interest to U.S. residents, particularly fans of the Detroit Redwings hockey team.  The mere fact that he was born in Canada does not justify the use of Canadian spelling in writing this article.  The article should be rewritten to conform to American spelling usage.  John Paul Parks (talk) 14:45, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: No. The person's tie, for the purposes of WP:ENGVAR is reflected in their nationality.  As Howe was Canadian, en-ca is the proper format for this article.  No different than an American athlete whose career was primarily spent in Canada should remain en-us (i.e.: Craig Conroy).  Resolute 16:51, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:   Do we know whether Howe ever became a naturalized U.S. citizen?John Paul Parks (talk) 22:22, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Even if he was a U.S. citizen, he was a Canadian citizen first, and played for Canada in international events. Therefore, we use Canadian spelling. -- Earl Andrew - talk 14:27, 13 June 2016 (UTC)

text: Even in the most charitable view of your argument, you could only claim no predominant tie to either nation. And that would still mean the existing format retains precedence. Resolute 14:34, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling Usage 

message: His categories include "Order of Hockey in Canada recipients" and "Officers of the Order of Canada" yet neither seem to be covered with citations in the article.  The Rambling Man (talk) 20:44, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Is "National Hockey League players with retired numbers" cited anywhere?  The Rambling Man (talk) 20:45, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Or "Canadian Protestants"? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:46, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Or "Canadian people of English descent"? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:51, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Or "Canada's Sports Hall of Fame inductees"? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:54, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Or "Hart Memorial Trophy winners"? The Rambling Man (talk) 20:54, 10 June 2016 (UTC)

text: Dropped Protestants and decent, cited the rest. Teemu08 (talk) 23:52, 10 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomplete verification for categories 

message: Side question - what on earth is (or was) a Pullman berth? Mentioned in the article as the reason Howe accepted number 9. StillWaitingForConnection (talk) 01:54, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pullman berth 

message: According to Wikipedia, Gordie died in Toledo, Ohio. However, according to a Blade article, he died in the Toledo suburb of Sylvania, Ohio, though no specifics were given other than that, plus a fact that a Sylvania funeral home is arranging for services in Detroit. -- azumanga (talk) 20:54, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gordie's place of death 

message: There is no proof that this ever occurred. The reference given is an arm of the HHOF which would lead one to believe that whatever they say MUST be truth. However, after much digging, there seems to be no such record of this in the newspapers of the day. I checked the Montreal Gazette and Dink Carroll (who is himself in the HHOF) never mentioned anything about this incident check it here https://news.google.ca/newspapers?id=9IU1AAAAIBAJ&sjid=9pgFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4673%2C5115969. As well as the Windsor Daily Star (right across the border from Detroit) here https://news.google.ca/newspapers?id=4hI_AAAAIBAJ&sjid=C08MAAAAIBAJ&pg=1714%2C3978222 no mention of this. Maurice Richard was THE superstar at that time, had a rookie knocked him out it would have made the news...I suggest that this sentence be deleted...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.64.244.76 (talk) 00:12, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gordie knocking out Maurice Richard... 

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message: Just a brief mention in "legacy" for his photo being used in season 3 episode 15?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A00:23C4:AA60:8E00:30CE:8B05:C766:ED8A (talk) 22:57, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simpsons 

message: When gordie Howe first played for the red wings in about 1947, he lived in a rooming (or boarding)  house on Lawton, within walking distance of the Olympia.  My grandfather lived at 6221 Lawton and he used to see Gordie walking to the Olympia, he said, with his skates slung over his shoulder.  I can’t remember the name of the rooming house — something like “Ma’s xxxxx.). Anyway, about 45 years later, I was working at General Motors and the call came that gordie Howe wanted to visit the Detroit-Hamtramck Plant.  Sure!  I took him around with great UAW help.  On the way, I asked him about the rooming house on Lawton.  He confirmed that was were he stayed.  He was a nice nice man.  — Anne Marie Sylvester, amgoblue67@gmail.com 2600:1700:BF30:1BE0:3D5D:A76D:44C1:8E7D (talk) 22:29, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where gordie lived when he first came to detroit