Talk:Workers' council

message: Venezuela and Argentina don't have workers' councils, they have comanaged factories (in the first case) and cooperatives (in the second case.
Actually, Venezuela has true workers' councils, even though Chávez is holding them back. A workers' council does not have to actually be in control of their workplace to be considered a workers' council. I'll find and post references. Ahuitzotl (talk) 23:43, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: We should merge Soviet (council) into Workers' council. The article on Soviets is generally geared towards explaining the history workers' councils in the context of the Russian Revolution and the Soviet Union. The councils described in that article are also referenced in this article, such as the aforementioned Russian Soviets as well as the Irish, Polish, and German Soviets. There is historical precedent for equating 'soviets' and 'councils', as the word Soviet was used to describe various council communist governments such as the Hungarian Soviet Republic. 
This article currently lacks much of the historical context that surrounds workers' councils. Such a merger could improve this article by expanding on the history of how workers' councils developed and evolved both as an idea and a political system. The sections on etymology and the history of soviets outside Russia would also be very useful as many of the listed examples on Workers' Council don't have any substantive description.
Flameoguy (talk) 00:08, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger Proposal 

message: The list of examples has grown over the years that this article was written to the point that it's quite unwieldy and there are many obscure and unsourced examples of workers's councils. It's necessary to individually verify and cite each example and remove it if necessary. If anyone has trouble sourcing a particular example please bring it up here and we can work to either verify it or remove it from the page.
Flameoguy (talk) 16:22, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd suggest moving the unsourced list here for discussion and only leaving the sourced/verified items in the article. czar 18:53, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verify list of examples 

message: can you confirm what articles you copied you most recent additions from, as we need to grab the full citations from those articles. Cdjp1 (talk) 16:06, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, so the first four citations were from books relating to workers' councils,. The first one is "Workers' Councils and the Economics of Self-Managed Society" by Cornelius Castoriadis. Two were from The Conquest of Bread and "The Great French Revolution" by Peter Kropotkin. The other citations I got from the article on free soviets, it was the book "Nestor Makhno and Rural Anarchism in Ukraine" by Colin Darch. I got three citations from the article on the Spanish Revolution of 1936 which were studies on how the Spanish communes worked and how effective they were. For the last citation, I used Lenin's The State and Revolution (not the article itself, but from reading a bit of the book). Do you want a list, or is this fine? Asterix12 (talk) 21:07, 20 February 2023 (UTC)

text: Oh yeah, I forgot. Sorry. In the "Anarchism" title, The first book I cited was "The Principle of Federation" by Pierre-Joseph Proudhon. I cited a PDF from The Anarchist Library. Asterix12 (talk) 21:38, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Full citations 

message: I think it's best that we give short explanations for each historical example as opposed to leaving them as bullet points. I've started on a few of them already, but I look to expand on them.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asterix12 (talk • contribs) 00:26, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Give more details on historical examples