Talk:Roy Douglas

message: Someone here should check the facts...
"From December 1935 to January 1943 I orchestrated every bar of all Richard Addinsell's music for films and broadcasts. I must state firmly that I did not compose any of it. We developed a method wherby he would play his music on the piano (he could stretch a twelfth with either hand), and I would rapidly take it down to paper as he played. His contribution to the orchestrations was to say 'this is strings only, that is oboe, give that to the horns' and so forth, and I would eventually take my draft away and complete scoring in all details..."
Roy Douglas, ICRC Autumn Edition 1999  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Beckus (talk • contribs) 17:58, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Richard Addinsell

message: The article, unfortunately, appears to be a close paraphrase of this profile on the Music Web International (MWI) website.  The text on the site is copyrighted 2005 by John Walton but our article was created in 2006 by .  (I'll come back to that latter fact, shortly.)  I should point out that the first edit is not identical to the MWI article; it is exceptionally close however.  Eg "Roy/He started to play the piano when he was five, and at ten..."; "...for lessons so that he could learn to play from the music"/"...for lessons 'so that I could learn to play from the music'"; "...when well enough, he spent many hours playing the piano"/"...when well enough, he 'spent many hours playing the piano, reading at sight everything I could find from Beethoven to ragtime'"; etc etc.  
On the other hand, entire paragraphs have been refactored (one way or the other). The MWI text:
and its WP equivalent:
The preceeding and succeeding paragraphs are nearly identical, though.  From there on, the refactoring is far more severe but the potential copyvio can still be detected.
I refrain from saying the article is unambiguously ripped (much less copyvioed) from the MWI site because I have had dealings with User:JackofOz and find him incredibly trustwothry and reliable.  It is, of course, possible that MWI have lied about the dates and have simply dropped quotes from RD into their text at opportune moments.  Whatever is true, we really do have to rewrite the entire article in case anyone spots this and reports us.  All help appreciated!  --Jubilee♫clipman 23:58, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I just confirmed (at least for the portion quoted above) that this is not revers copied as there is an archived version of their page from June 2005, which still predates this article. VernoWhitney (talk) 20:59, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Close paraphrasing

message: Stub created from non-copyvio material so the article doesn't disappear. PamD (talk) 07:39, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  rescue attempt 

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