Talk:Doughboy

message: I'm looking for the composers of "Johnny Doughboy Found A Rose In Ireland" , a song from 1942
:When you find the name, please include the information in this article; thanks! - DavidWBrooks 21:04, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Kay Twomey. See 1942 in music. Kafziel 15:57, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
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message: It seems highly unlikely that the doughboy pictured in the image on the left is receiving the Victoria Cross, given that the only US serviceman upon whom the decoration was bestowed (as best as I can discern) was The Unknown Solider, who is unlikely to have attained the upright posture depicted for His Majesty's convenience. The image's caption itself descibes only the conferral of "an award" and makes no reference to the VC. DublinDilettante 22:41, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
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message: Is there any particular reason why the etymology section was removed on February 25th?  Sure, it could use some sources, but other than that it seems pretty good.  --Kevin 14:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology section removed?

message: Does anybody else think that there need to be more sources cited?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.8.37.135 (talk) 03:31, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: sources

message: We were always told that they were called Doughboys because upon arriving at the front new soldiers would rough dough on their uniforms to make them look dirty, as though they weren't fng's or equivalent. No source though. - Serving Soldier
I was told by a current solider that WWI soldiers were so named because they were sent across the ocean in flour ships.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.196.170.124 (talk) 03:58, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: good story but not true--they went in ocean liners (like the '"Titanic", though it had already sunk). Rjensen (talk) 04:31, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
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message: I have removed a section titled Motivation, since it was entirely about World War I soldiers, and as the article makes clear, the term "Doughboy" was used in other conflicts. (Also, it was terribly written, but that wouldn't be a reason to remove it). - DavidWBrooks (talk) 21:14, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: let's keep a fully sourced highly relevant section on what people who called themselves "doughboys" thought about their roles. This in no way detracts from the point that the term was occasionally used for other small groups of soldiers--they deserve coverage too. Rjensen (talk) 21:32, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  remove "motivation" setion 

message: While I don't have a source handy, it was my understanding that the term Doughboy, at least during WWI, was a reference to the apparent wealth of the U.S. soldiers freshly entering the war; dough, being a euphemism for money. While I see that my knowledge of when the term first came into use was wrong, I'm still confident that the purpose of the term is still accurate, and I feel it needs to be clarified, both in this article, and in the second-to-last sentence of the National Doughnut Day article (because the National Doughnut Day article directly references this topic). Is there someone who can clarify this, or provide the necessary source to end this discussion?<BR>
Christopher, Salem, OR (talk) 11:53, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins and Purpose of Euphemism 

message: The caption for the photo says that a British Distinguished Conduct Medal is being awarded to Pvt. Harry Shelly, Co A, US 132nd Infantry, 33rd Division, but the Eligibility Section of the Distinguished Service Medal seems to indicate that you would have to be in the British military, or the military of one of its Commonwealth Dominions or Colonies, and an American soldier would therefore not be eligible.  Either the caption is incorrect, or  Distinguished Service Medal page is missing some information on potential eligibility. In the Recipients section of the Medal's page, it also indicates recipients from Australia, Canada, New Zealand and, South Africa, but no mention of Americans, French, or any other non-commonwealth, yet allied forces.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Renegage646 (talk • contribs) 16:52, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I did some research on the picture and on Private Shelly a while ago. It is the British Distinguished Conduct Medal. It followed the Battle of Hamel on 4th July 1918 in which American troops fought under Australian command, and very successfully (Pershing was furious about it). Nineteen Americans were decorated by Britain - twelve, including Shelly, by the King himself. It had been very hard to get Pershing to allow Americans to do much fighting, least of all under Allied command, so for them to do so well on such an important date for America while integrated with Australian troops was far more important for Allied morale than any minor quibble about rules of eligibility. There's an interesting article about the events here. Shelly's citation said the medal was "for extraordinary heroism in action near Hamel, Belgium, July 4, 1918. With an Australian soldier, Private Shelly went out and silenced an enemy sniping post and brought back eight prisoners". DuncanHill (talk) 17:44, 2 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possibly Incorrect Medal Referenced in Photo