Talk:Peanut gallery

message: Was it not “Howdy Doody” itself that popularized phrases like “no comments from the Peanut Gallery?” —Wiki Wikardo 00:29, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems to me very unlikely Howdy Doody originated this phrase. TheScotch (talk) 06:53, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Howdy Doody 

message: A warning tag was placed at the beginning of this section in September of 2010 complaining that the section is largely irrelevant to the subject of the article, which it clearly is. (I did not place this tag myself.) The section is also a mindless and random list, rather than continuous logical prose. Enough time has elapsed for editors to have salvaged what they like, so I'm going to remove the section now. There is, however, a single entry that seems marginally related which I will move to the body of the article. It's this: Similar to "peanut gallery", Brazilian football coach Luis Felipe Scolari called Palmeiras' complaining audience that sat in the closest seats "Turma do Amendoim" ("Peanut gang"). The supporters accepted the nickname, and use it to date. I don't mean to suggest I'm in love with this entry. If someone else decides to delete it entirely, that will be perfectly fine with me. TheScotch (talk) 07:04, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Related terms 

message: Why is this remark in the article? Who could confuse peanut gallery with peanut allergy? For that matter, why is peanut capitalized? TheScotch (talk) 07:20, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: .. or even a "peanut allegory"?!  Martinevans123 (talk) 16:48, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not to be confused with Peanut allergy. 

message: I did some cleanup on the paragraph detailing the racist origins of the term. Might not be perfect, but at least it should be less of an eyesore.
Of note are these two changes which I believe might be contentious:
* Moved to "Background section": Seems to me that further detailing the origins of the term beyond the bare basics belongs more to a dedicated section rather than bloating the otnro paragraph. For now the Background section seems good enough, though perhaps creating an etymology section may be more appropiate.
* Removed sentence "The phrase is racist and should not be used": I might be wrong but, I do not think wikipedia is supposed to be a guidebook to social interactions - Readers should be able to determine by themselves whether usage of certain phrases is considered inappropiate in their own cultural contexts. A couple properly referenced sentences detailing movements to stop usage of the word, or fall in usage in US culture (or beyond) attributed to it's racist origins would both be welcome, but a blanket statement not to use a phrase is not it. Still, that's just my view on the matter, so feel free to discuss and readd said statement if determined to have been correct.
Another point I'd like to bring to attention, on which I'm no expert and have been unable to solve anyway, is the possible bowdlerization of the cited text: The news article that the cited text was lifted from might have censored the original text, in which case it should be restored, or it might have been as is in the original, thus requiring a [sic], but I haven't been able to determine either. Or perhaps such simple censoring in the original is trivial enough tnot to warrant a [sic], I don't really know there.
185.163.103.83 (talk) 22:16, 14 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: For anyone wondering, the citation for racism can be found on archive.org and matches the claim in the article: https://archive.org/details/listeningtoameri0000flex/page/438/mode/2up . The source dates to 1982, which I think is before the start of Critical Race Theory and "wokism", which are often accused of engaging in petty troublemaking. It doesn't make the claim true, but I have no way of checking. --Svennik (talk) 06:44, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: so someone quoted someone in 1982 about a term coined in the 1800s and that's worthy of this phrase? you belong in the peanut gallery. 2603:7081:7905:6FE2:4150:95D7:89EF:869F (talk) 08:34, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Racist origins" cleanup