Talk:Northridge, Los Angeles

message: Just wondering where they came from. Getty has different ones. pfctdayelise (translate?) 09:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  coords 

message: On JANUARY 17, in 1994, LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.26.246.214 (talk) 20:54, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Earthquakes 

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message: I have added an earthquake details happened in Northridge  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Yennychosen (talk • contribs) 22:21, 20 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  I feel like the background of Northridge should be more accurate.  

message: User:Dom.ortiz3 prefers this phraseology in the lede to the version that is there now: "Northridge is a neighborhood of Los Angeles, California in the San Fernando Valley region LA. It was formerly named North Los Angeles." See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Northridge%2C_Los_Angeles&diff=528916151&oldid=528896823. As you can observe, there is no comma after California, the word "of" is omitted before "LA," and "Los Angeles" is not spelled out, all of which make the lede extremely awkward and counter to good usage. I reverted the editor's changes for the second time but do not wish to engage in an edit war, so if he or she changes back to his or her preferred version, I hope somebody else will opt for clarity and revert on behalf of all readers. GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:41, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The lede. 

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message: This entire paragraph should be removed:
"European exploration and settlement
It wasn't until 1769 when the area known as Northridge was descriptively first reported by Father Juan Crespi, the prolific diarist who accompanied the exploration party of Spanish explorer Gaspar de Portolà on its arduous trek through California, including the Sepulveda Pass leading to the San Fernando Valley. Having traversed more than their share of dry and arid land, the discovery of water, wherever it was, merited rejoicing. And so it was with Zelzah, an unexpected oasis and one of the meeting places of the Gabrielino, native to the area.[7] The explorers bathed and rested at the watering hole, fed by underground streams which still run deep beneath the intersection of Parthenia Street and Reseda Boulevard.[8]"
While it is true that the articles referenced at [7] and [8] contained these words, the articles in themselves are in error.  Fray Juan Crespi's diary of the 1769 Portola Expedition detailed the native village and hospitality they received at the base of the Sepulveda Pass (the Encino / Sherman Oaks area).  It also detailed the survey made of sources of fresh water in the San Fernando Valley, led by the natives.  This included the springs that (at the time) flowed at the base of what became the stagecoach-traversed Santa Susana Pass.  Crespi recorded the distances to each of these, in leagues, from the native village. Since he also gave an estimate of the dimensions of the Valley in "leagues", we have a direct comparison to refer to, instead of having to prove the Spanish league was in use.  At any rate.. NO mention of any springs, water hole, creek or water of any kind were mentioned anywhere near the center of the Valley.  When they left that area, the next water found was in the area later known as the Van Norman Lakes, in the Sylmar area.  
This solidly shows that as far as anything those articles stated is concerned, when it comes to the 1769 Portola Expedition, it all is a very nice story. Quite popular as a matter of fact.  But a load of bunk.
Here is the real source. It is not available for reading on the Internet, but may be ordered from various sources.  Corroboration involves purchase or borrowing from a university library, this massive reference:
 Crespí, Juan; Alan K Brown (2001). A Description of Distant Roads: Original Journals of the First Expedition into California, 1769–1770. San Diego: San Diego State University Press.  ISBN: 9781879691643 , 1879691647 
Read pages 351 to 357 for the account of this area.  Read notes on pages 787 and 788, in particular about corrections to Fray Juan Crespi's feeble attempts at reading an astrolabe.  Not really necessary, except to reasonably establish the location of Encino and the Santa Clara River.. the two places in this excerpt he attmpted a reading.
I copied those pages, marked them up, and stored them together in a PDF.  I don't know how to insert them here.. and it might not be legal to put them in the actual Wiki.  But you may contact me for a copy for corroboration purposes, and save the trouble of wrestling that huge volume on a scanner or copier. WilliamCFlower (talk) 06:46, 3 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "European exploration and settlement" - Challenged as a popular story that is not true