Talk:List of subnational entities

message: There is no reason to complicate what is a simple list by converting it into a table. Removed the dependent territories of the United Kingdom, which are separate from subnational entities. -- Mic 05:32 May 3, 2003 (UTC)
:IMHO it's a matter of personal preference which one is easier to read. The number of items per country doesn't necessarily warrant section headers. --- User:Docu
::When I created the entry I left the dependent territories of the United Kingdom in by mistake. There is a distinct difference between former "colonies" and subnational entities that is the reason why the dependants had to go. However, there is more to subnational divisions than first order subnational entities. I see no reason to exclude second or third level subdivisions from the list, since it actually is one of the points of the list. In some countries second and third level entities has a more important role than first order subdivisions. Second and third level entities has a place in the list, including the municipalities. -- Mic
:We can leave the Wikipedia-definitions of subnational entities (or the definition's implementation) open and include municipalities. Often municipality-lists are similar to Wikipedia-lists of cities, so I'd find them more useful there, besides they can be found on Municipality as well. If we want to detail different levels of subnational entities within countries (or States), rather than just leaving this to the country articles, we should probably detail them here as well, e.g. list which "entities" are included in Subdivisions of Russia. To enumerate entity-lists, we might be better off with a more generic Lists of geographic areas. --User:Docu
I have re-ordered the lists within some countries that include the ISO 3166-2 codes
to bring some uniformity to the list as a whole. – Anon 12:23, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Table

message: I start to include local term and the level. I would remove ISO or put it to the apropriate level. Suggestions ? I try some to see what it looks like Tobias Conradi (Talk) 22:19, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  include local term and level 

message: I would like to change the vertical "List by country" navigational box on the right of this page to a horizontal one at the bottom. Please discuss at Template talk:Lists by country. --ChoChoPK (球球PK) (talk | contrib) 12:54, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "List by country" navigational box 

message: From the edit history 09:43, 4 July 2007 Philip Baird Shearer (Talk | contribs | block) m (moved List of country subdivisions to List of subnational entities over redirect: Moved back to name that reflects the definition page used at the start of the document. See talk page)
I have moved the article back from "List of country subdivisions" to "List of subnational entities" because the name  better fits the article's definition as expressed in the introduction. The word country has lots of meanings that make any list that includes the word country open to WP:OR. The OED has 16 meanings for country, and the meaning that best fits to state does not occure until the the sixth meaning "The people of a district or state; the nation.". The first 5 are:
# A tract or expanse of land of undefined extent; a region, district.
# A tract or district having more or less definite limits in relation to human occupation. e.g. owned by the same lord or proprietor, or inhabited by people of the same race, dialect, occupation, etc.; spec. preceded by a personal name: the region associated with a particular person or his works
# The territory or land of a nation; usually an independent state, or a region once independent and still distinct in race, language, institutions, or historical memories, as England, Scotland, and Ireland, in the United Kingdom, etc. 
#The land of a person's birth, citizenship, residence, etc.; used alike in the wider sense of native land, and in the narrower one of the particular district to which a person belongs.
#The parts of a region distant from cities or courts 
--Philip Baird Shearer 10:08, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of subnational entities