Talk:International Amateur Radio Union

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message: Currently, member society information is handled in three ways.
#There is a list of members here, with wikilinks to articles. For some members, there is no article.
#There is a List of amateur radio organizations which duplicates the list here, plus there are additional organizations listed, a scattering, with no consistency as to what is listed and what is not. Very notable individual organizations are not listed, and probably not notable clubs are listed.
#There are individual articles or stubs on member societies.
If there is consensus here, among those concerned, and as long as this is consistent with policy and general community consensus on what is allowable for articles and article text, it will generally prevail, if skilfully advocated. As a general principle, editorial consensus trumps theoretical statements of guidelines at guideline pages. It does not trump fundamental policy, such as WP:V.
So let's work on determining what we, all editors concerned with radio amateur articles, want to see in the encyclopedia. I'm going to solicit participation in this at WP:WikiProject Amateur Radio, and this will take time. The editors who know the most about this subject are not those who check Wikipedia every day. You can see some of the issues and proposals above, but what will ultimately satisfy everyone would be the discovery and citation of sources other than the IARU and individual national society web sites. An obvious one is back issues of QST. There is support for accepting this as reliable source for this kind of information. Some radio amateurs may have back issues of the magazine, before what is available on-line to ARRL members. ARRL members may assist with finding references to IARU recognition of more recent national societies. And some clubs may have back issues going all the way back to the early days. --Abd (talk) 00:02, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion of the handling of member society information 

message: One article earlier closed with a Delete close, but was reopened on request by the admin who closed, who relisted it to gain more comment. Another article just closed delete, whereas all seven other closes so far, have been Keep. There was no substantial difference between the situation with the Delete close and the two other Keep closes by the same admin, so it's a bit mysterious.
Still, rather than questioning this Delete at this point, I prefer to see what happens with the rest of the AfDs first. Meanwhile, I've asked for assistance at WP:WikiProject Amateur Radio in finding sources independent of that IARU for these national societies, even though I believe that IARU recognition is sufficient. This comment is intended to lay out, roughly, my plan.
After all the AfDs have closed, I and other editors can request that any close be changed. There would be a very substantial basis for this request in the case of the single Delete close so far, but it will help if additional sources have been found by that time. The basic principle is to handle a situation with minimum disruption, and the only reason I've been to a noticeboard so far with this was to attempt to gain advice on the issue of using the IARU as an "independent source," which might have shortened the process.
If we do not find what we consider a satisfactory response from this administrator, then we can go to WP:DRV and request review. However, many or most administrators will reconsider fairly upon request, so it's better to ask first. Nicely.
We may also request userification of any deleted article, and it will normally be granted. I would permit any of these articles to be moved to my user space. Categories would be disabled, but, otherwise, anyone could work on the articles to improve them pending a reconsideration, perhaps based on improved sourcing.
I also intend to improve the list of member societies here so that it contains some basic information about each member society, instead of relying entirely on the article links. A founding date would be of interest, for example, as well as a link to the official society web site. The deleted article was about a member society that two years ago celebrated its 80th anniversary. --Abd (talk) 21:48, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proceeding to deal with deletion issues on national member societies. 

message: (On lighter topic...) The page says that IARU regions "correspond with" the ITU regions.  I believe the regions are geographically identical with the corresponding ITU regions.  The exact definition of regions is available on the IARU web site, but is hard to find on the ITU site.  Does anyone know the history?  I presume that IARU chose to use the ITU definitions, but it is odd that their documentation is not written that way.  In the amateur radio context, it is not always clear when you should speak of IARU regions or ITU regions.  It might be worth a note here.--Albany45 (talk) 22:55, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Regions

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