Talk:Petar Poparsov

message: Read this. Nationality can't be bought with money, not to mention with serbisation or macedonisation. Bomac 22:02, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Tell that to Misirkov who applied for stipends in the Serbian, Russian and Bulgarian government, and switched nationality every time he got rejected.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:04, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, his biography tells another story.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:11, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Bomac, Greek leftists want Greece to drop the naming issue and let the whole world recognize you as "Macedonia" - does that (the fact that they disagree with Greek state policy) stop them being Greek? --Tēlex 22:05, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The documents about BMARC, including the statute, are in the Central Government Archive in Sofia, btw.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

text: The reference is that he himself drafted and signed the statute of an organization exclusively for Bulgarians. Again, fighting for policital authonomy of Macedonia is irrelevant here.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:35, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Where is the reference that he himself signed this?--Cigor 22:37, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Read the book of Tatarchev.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:37, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Look FF, if you have anything to add value to this article by providing exact references please do. Otherwise, stop vandalising.--Cigor 22:39, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Vandalizing? Speak for yourself. Here: Христо Татарчев, Вътрешната македоно-одринска революционна организация като митологична и реална същност, София 1995.   /FunkyFly.talk_  22:40, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Stop dodging. Provide Tatarchev quote mentioning Pop Arsov doing something what you are claiming.--Cigor 22:43, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Signing may be a metaphor. To join the closest thing you could get to a Greek equivalent - the Filiki Eteria - you had to swear an oath. --Tēlex 22:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Following that logic, Todor Aleksandrov is Macedonian, after all he signed Majski manifest. FF know what am I talking about. --Cigor 22:47, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The whole thing is a big conspiracy aimed at the negation of the Macedonian nation, financed by the Bulgarian government.   /FunkyFly.talk_  23:05, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Don't know about that, but you are going to tell me that Telex come out of nowhere with a strong opinion about Pop-Arsov. Pathetic. --Cigor 23:12, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

text: And here's another man with a "strong opinion" about the issue. ;-) Better said they automatically revert when they see "Macedonian". ;-) Bomac 23:32, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Bomac erased the phrase, "which was initially called the Bulgarian Macedonian-Adrianople Revolutionary Committees;".  QUESTION. My impression is that there existed such an organisation, or something named like it. Is this so and was it related to Pop Arsov? Thank you. Politis 14:49, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Politis, there's an interesting conversation at Nikola Karev about this... --FlavrSavr 02:08, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarification needed

message: Here are the parts in which Pop Arsov speaks of the Bulgarian propaganda in Macedonia and of the Macedonian ethnicity: (from mkWiki): Stambolovism in Macedonia and its representatives. --Bomac 11:37, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The funny part is here is a man who spend his whole political life fiercly opposed to Bulgarian propaganda, who was Macedonian - in all meaning, political, ethnic, and yet he is tagged as Bulgarian revol. where Macedonian is deleted. Yes, there is Macedonian#In_demography but what does it means? Obviously he is not Greek nor Albanian. --Cigor 13:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And how do we know about his Macedonian ethnicity? And why would he think of the "B" in BMARC?   /FunkyFly.talk_  17:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I will let you to explain what he thought about "B" in BMARC since you mention finding references about him (Tatarcev, etc). As for references by him, he does not mention any BMARC. --Cigor 17:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stambolovism 

message: Please refer to the statute of BMARC at IMRO and the discussion page at Talk:Yane Sandanski. ForeignerFromTheEast 22:10, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ethnicity

message: According to Boris Nikolov in his fundamental work "Internal Macedonian-Adrianople Organization. Voivodes and Leaders. Biographical and Bibliographical Reference Book"(Sofia 2001, p. 134) (Николов, Борис Й. Вътрешна Македоно-Одринска революционна организация. Войводи и ръководители. биографично-библиографски справочник. София 2001, с. 134) Poparsov died in Kostenets. Are there some serious sources about Sofia as a place of his death?--Males (talk) 18:48, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death place 

message: Please, stop vandalizing the article! Jingby (talk) 15:53, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sockpuppets

message: is this really so important to you to open such a discussion? i changed the places because it really might sound strange to a non-informed person to read such a sentence, no matter if there was such a country at that time or not. bulgarian lands were under ottoman rule too when poparsov was born. Icaf (talk) 15:54, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, and? HOw could someone find it strange since he does not actually know the ethnicity of that man. And no - being born in the region of Macedonia does not automatically make you a present-day ethnic Macedonian. --Laveol T 16:03, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: i did not say anything about his ethnicity, but you will probably agree that it sounds strange presenting the view of today's neighboring country first. Icaf (talk) 16:27, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, not?! How is it strange? At the time all of them were regarded and self-identified as Bulgarians. How is it strange. And since we already have had this dispute a number of times and the only neutral arbiter is the alphabet, B tends to go in front of M. And that's that. --Laveol T 16:39, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: So because you believe in this fiction it does not mean others have to read such stuff here on wikipedia. Icaf (talk) 18:05, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

text: Please, refrain from personal attacks. Now further: Unlike you I have provided sources for my edits. They are third-party sources (non-RoM and non-BG). I do not insist on ethnic Macedonians being Bulgarian. You can see my position on the subject all over the project. I insist, though, that third-party scholars regard this man (who by the way lived quite a few years of his life in the very same XIX century that you seem to despise) a Bulgarian. And that's it. If you have sources on the subject, use them. If no, please, do not delete sourced content. --Laveol T 19:25, 7 August 2010 (UTC)

text: If you find your sources you can just put it the way it was. Or maybe with a sentence that scholars do not have a unified position or something. That's since I couldn't find any supporting the claim of him being an ethnic Macedonian. I've got a Bulgarian scholar supporting the opposite position in English, though. A ref about the official doctrine position in the Republic of Macedonia would be a nice addition (I think it's common sense now that every person born in the region is regarded as such in RoM, but I've been unable to locate a source on MKpedia). The only source is actually supporting the Bulgarian claims. SO, try working with sources, please. --Laveol T 19:35, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: @Laveol

message: Since I am uninitiated in the topic area I do not insist on my suggestion. 
Immediately after name 'Petar Poparsov' there seem to be two notes describing alternate name / spellings. Is it not better to merge them?  Bookku    (talk) 04:24, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like a good idea for me. Gurther (talk) 05:23, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:   Can Note1 and Note2 be merged?