Talk:Plot Synopsis of 8-Bit Theater

message: I honestly appreciate the effort put in this, but, y'know, couldn't people just as well read the comic? It's basically more a scene-by-scene retelling than a synopsis, to say nothing of the length and the fact that it's a really massive, eye-tiring block of text.
What would be really cool to have is a short synopsis, possibly mentioning some of the differences between game and comic - though not all of them - in the main article on 8BT which is sorely lacking in content. This, I don't know. --R. Wolff 19:16, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd really like for Cat's Tuxedo, who more or less wrote this on his own, to give his input, but he's not replying here or on his talk page. --R. Wolff 04:59, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

text: 8BT is extremely popular, yes, but that doesn't make anything that relates to it noteworthy. As far as I'm concerned, if you want to describe the plot in detail, knock yourself out, but this is in no way an encyclopedia article. --R. Wolff 13:42, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps this should be abridged and merged into the main article? Bisected8 10:27, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea, but I think at this point we'd have to abridge it to the point where we might as well write a short synopsis from scratch. Matter of fact, I started, but it's not done yet... >_> --R. Wolff 20:18, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

message: I'll be doing some heavy trimming and editing on this article. In its current form, it's a big mess. Look at other "plot synopsis" articles - they don't retell every single episode in detail. Expect this article to be heavily reduced. --R. Wolff 11:39, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trimming 

message: What kind of photos could we include here? Panels from the comic? That would make the article completely obsolete. It's like illustrating the plot synopsis of a book with pages from that book.
EDIT: Okay, that was a bit harsh. Sorry. This article would only profit from pictures of the most iconic moments - character deaths, Red Mage casting Hadoken, things like that. One per storyarc? --R. Wolff 16:04, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely. Let's see - Black Mage as the king of Hell, Black Belt's death, the Light Warriors meeting Bahamut or getting their class change, or something else from that arc (which is full of interesting moments), that's what I'd include. I'd also include one of the Light Warriors' first appearance as a group, only that would have to be Black Mage furiously chasing them around with a knife. Then again, that is pretty iconic. :p --R. Wolff 16:33, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Some ideas which come to mind (IMO): Fighter attacking with his swords, BMs Hadoken, Law ninjas attacking, RM casting Ice, Fighter saying "I like swords", "Your HP or your GP", Theif following BM and fighter in a bush, Fighters "Medoken". - Bisected8 15:14, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't read the article quite through but I'd suggest that a picture of all four real light warriors be included too.. Zalethon 22:51, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hold on, that's a bit too much. The Hadoken is an iconic moment. "I like swords," well, okay. The rest, frankly, strike me as picture versions of retelling a single episode or joke. The real light warriors aren't even mentioned in the article anymore. I'd include the first ever Hadoken (possibly with the X-Men quote), the first ever group shot of the protagonists, the group meeting Sarda, Black Mage as king of Hell and Black Belt's death. Possibly something from the class change as well. --R. Wolff 16:53, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well as I said they were just ideas. - Bisected8 16:30, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Photo request

message: I don't think it's necessary to give details on every single new episode as soon as it comes out. Please limit accounts of such episodes to only the major plot points. For example, the paragraph about the cultists and Kraken/Ur can probably remain the way it is now for a few days, at least until Red Mage or Kraken die. --R. Wolff 16:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding currently running storyarcs 

message: I've got an idea. How about we do a short writeup on the story of the game, and then use the synopsis we have here to show what's different in the comic? Not in detail, of course, just generally noting that, for example, Matoya blackmails the heroes into helping her.
I got the idea from the warning box, where it says "ensure the emphasis of the article is on discussing the work itself rather than a reiteration of the plot"... actually, I thought there was to be no original research, but whatever. --R. Wolff 16:57, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps, conveniently I've been playing it for the last few days (I just beat the water fiend in case you were wondering). But wouldn't this come under original research? - Bisected8 10:36, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I was thinking, but I suppose that infobox is official policy on what's wanted. Plus it probably isn't research at all if we just state the facts about both plots. I.e. we say in the game synopsis "The heroes help the witch Matoya get her crystal eye back" and point out in the comic synopsis that she blackmails them. --R. Wolff 16:17, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, do you want to turn the article into a comparison, create a separate article or what? -Bisected8 21:01, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't say turn it into a comparison completely, but definitely introduce elements of comparison. --R. Wolff 15:17, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What about just adding a paragraph or two in italics below each chapter?-Bisected8 20:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that works. I'll implement a variation of it where the game plot comes first - seeing as it's the base - and trim the text further as I go. --R. Wolff 14:23, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added the games plot for the Orb of Fire and Class change arcs. I missed the ice cavern arc as I don't recall this section appearing in the game (I played the GBA version of FF). The list of character class changes I put in the class change arc can be removed if necessary. - Bisected8 19:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know which version you played, but FFI + II: Dawn of Souls have the Ice Cavern, and its vital in the plot because that's where you get the Levistone so you could get the airship. 75.0.177.250 01:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thats the ice cavern? Where was the ice? - Bisected8 15:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wierd... Seeing that most of the monsters there are weak to fire, is blue in color, and the walls are mostly blue crystals would tip off that there are ice there? Perhaps you're thinking of a different area? 75.0.187.150 03:35, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was talking about the lack of any ice or snow around the entrance. - Bisected8 11:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Idea for reworking the article 

message: The creator of the comic has wished to request this article to be deleted as it may lose viewers as mentioned here http://forum.nuklearpower.com/showthread.php?t=16420 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Linknumbers (talk • contribs) 04:36, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not what that thread says at all, and Mr. Clevinger hasn't even posted in it or commented in any way. What? --R. Wolff 09:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Now now, "assume good faith," remember? (Bugger, can't remember the link.) I just wanted to avoid any confusion. --R. Wolff 17:59, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion

message: I've noticed that the article has no references. Perhaps we should add a few to indicate important plot points?-Bisected8 20:46, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: I just put this article up for a deletion discussion. My argument is the same DarthVader already made under "Merger Proposal": "I think that this article is gratuitous and unnecessary. It is simply far longer than it needs to be. Very few articles about any media on Wikipedia that I've seen have a synopsis that's this long and detailed, and I just don't see the reasons for having it. If someone wanted to find out the plot of the comic, they could just read it." --R. Wolff 10:07, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion 

message: Probably a bit late to weigh in, but I really like this article, it's an interesting read, even if it is lengthy. And it's not like other comics on wikipedia don't have extremely detailed explanations of the plots, just look at Plot of Naruto for example.
Why not just have the shortened synopsis on the main page like it is now, then have a link to this one in it? Lord Seth 18:05, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Complete deletion really necessary?