Talk:John Hanning Speke

message: Indri Debono was the first white man in recorded history to have discovered the fountainhead - the source of the Nile! He never bothered to record this exceptional discovery and we only know of it through the memoirs of Speke; the man credited with the feat. In 1862 Indri reached the Ripon and Murchison Falls, the outlets of Lake Victoria. Indri Debono (or Andrea) was from Malta.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.56.128.188 (talk) 18:41, 18 October 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: This may be a reference to Andrea Debono.  He apparently came near to Lake Albert but never found Victoria.  --Richard Clegg 19:12, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
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message: In which regiment was he commissioned? Valetude (talk) 16:39, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It is evidently 46th Bengal Native Infantry - but there is something odd about the promotion dates given in the ODNB and the Ibis biography Lt 1850 and Captain in 1852 they say but the London Gazette gives 1855 -  - maybe someone with more military history knowledge can check if there is something else to consider. The dates in the article are now as given in the secondary sources. Shyamal (talk) 08:28, 6 July 2018 (UTC)

text: In that era, (pre-1857) the Bengal Army was run by the East India Company and was not the same as the British Army. Though people served in both. The London Gazette ranks would be his rank within the British Army. The 1855 date is significant because I think he left the army around the same time. The earlier promotions to Lieutenant and Captain were probably promotions within his regiment or within the East India Company's Bengal Army (rather than the British army). The main point I guess is that in the era, he could have three different ranks at the same time. (a) His British Army Rank, (b) His rank within the Bengal Army, (c) A regimental rank within the 46th Bengal Native Infantry.107.193.104.112 (talk) 07:25, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regiment? 

message: "Local Church Missionary Society records indicate that Speke fathered a daughter whilst staying at the court of Muteesa I the Kabaka"
What records - and which society? You don't mean there was a Missionary Society keeping written records while Speke was there, do you?
Also:
"Speke fell in love with the elder girl, 'Meri', according to his diaries"
I have perused the book and I fail to see the basis for such a statement, unless where he says that he preferred to restrain the girl with "bonds of love" rather than with iron chains as suggested by the local Queen...  any help?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.34.77.130 (talk) 18:15, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
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message: Unsure how to add two references regarding Speke's death where it says 'citation needed'. I'm reading the book 'River of the Gods' and the author has that very same paragraph and two notes of reference but I don't know how to add them as they are from the London Times 1864. Kerby50 (talk) 17:31, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Speke's death