Talk:Anime Detour

message: Question - the attendance number for 2006 was entered on the 25th of March... for a convention that didn't end until the 26th.  Can we really trust that number?  It just seems too fishy to me, to suddenly be just enough to match the criteria to be included in the List of anime conventions article. 137.28.246.163 02:44, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Those are the same numbers I got approximately, the day after the convention.  Because they were loose numbers at the time - and so close to 2,500 - I just put up the approximation.  If you think we should replace it with the 2,464 then go right ahead. Traegorn 15:19, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Attendance?

message: Just wondering, but why is Sogen Con's site linked from this article?  I mean, I have nothing against Sogen, I go down there to help them out each year, but does it really have anything to do with Detour? --ACDragonMaster 03:34, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wonder how we would remedy that? Hmmm?  The entire point is to create the link in hopes that someone write the article, isn't it?Traegorn 19:50, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And now there is a Sogen Con article.  Fancy that. :) Traegorn 20:19, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Sogen? 

message: I've seen this "detailed history" and I have some issues with it.  I'm not disputing the FACTS of this portion of the article at all - so don't get me wrong - but there are unsourced quotes in there, along with a writing style not necessarily appropriate to an Encyclopedia entry. Traegorn 01:48, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I just think we need to avoid self-referencing.  When I rewrote the No Brand Con history - which ironically originally had text ripped from a press release that I had written myself... - I ended up removing quite a few personal references which *I* knew were true, but didn't fit into an encyclopedic style.  The idea is to provide the information in a neutral tone - and no matter how cool it seems to you and me, we need to remember that Wikipedia is not here to be a promotional device, but instead a resource for research. Traegorn 15:17, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History?

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TJ Striker—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.131.176.140 (talk • contribs).
Just FYI... -- Scientizzle 06:51, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Message from site founder? 

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thread_title:  Potential reference 

message: I am confused why the old version got taken down particularly this part...
""March 2004
Attendance: ~1219[citation needed]
Anime Detour was first help March 2004 by founder Travis Hildebrand (co-founder Jon Hughes resigned as chairman in 2003) at the Airport Marriott in Bloomington, MN. Guests the first year included voice actresses Monica Rial, Carrie Savage, voice actor Kyle Hebert, physics professor and anime fan Dr. Marc Hairston, and founder of AnimeMusicVideos.org Kris McCormic.
March 2005
Attendance: ~1600[citation needed]
Anime Detour moved to the second week in March, and also moved across the street to the Ramada Inn Mall of America. All of 2004's guests returned for a second year and were joined by voice actors Greg Ayres and Travis Willingham.
March 2006
In 2006, pre-registration had grown to 1600 for the same location. More programming was added, featuring author Joan Vinge, local poetess Rececca Marjesdatter, ADV founder Matt Greenfield, New Generation Pictures producer Jonathan Klein, voice actress Tiffany Grant and artists Robert and Emily DeJesus, in addition to returning guests Monica Rial, Carrie Savage, Kyle Hebert, Kris McCormic, and Greg Ayres.""
I dont care about the registration numbers that everyone on here seems to want to piss fight over, I just am curious why the rest of this info was removed? if you just want to make the article a list of guests its a poor wiki since that info can be found on a dozen other sites on the web.
and 
sorry I screwed up on my first edit :)
24.118.83.33 06:30, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: This makes the second time I've removed a promotional link from the history section of the article and restored the cleanup tag in the last two days. Both times the link and the removal of the cleanup tag was done by someone using the username . Weather this is someone related to the convention or just a fan, I don't know. But I like to remind them about avoiding conflicts of interests along with Wikipedia's policies against self-promotion, which is what advocating readers to visit the convention's website for more information does. --Farix (Talk) 21:13, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is here to be an encyclopedic entry on a notable subject. Not to provide a brief overview on behalf of the subject. --Farix (Talk) 23:40, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a billboard 

message: Since some people think there are problems with this wiki entry, this page will be under construction until further notice.  This means some sections will come and go during the process.  If a section vanishes, then there is a good reason, do not revert the edit if it is being worked on.  The plan is to improve the flow and reduce "listing" in addition to adding a few images. Anime detour 03:55, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the Under Construction tag. If you have something to do in the short term and are actively doing it, fine. But it is not a territorial maker to place long-term inhibition on others freely editing the article. Gordonofcartoon 10:31, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Under Prolonged Construction 

message: it would be nice if people wouldn't undo additions that have been officially verified as true.  even if it may be for a future event it still is true.  Registration for this convention closed at 3000 today and that number will not change.  if someone has a problem with it being a future event, then separate the 2008 portion from the PAST section.  the info is valid and confirmed through an official source and won't be changing. Anime detour (talk) 22:06, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no reliable third-party source so it is unverifiable at this point. The convention staff can't post information on Wikipedia that hasn't been published by a third-party source. Also, one can't predict the attendance figure of an event before the event is even held. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, again because predicting future attendance is unverifiable. --Farix (Talk) 22:26, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Then please do not link to this convention until official information from the website itself is accepted.  wikipedia will be labeled as unofficial and this convention does not wish to be associated with it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anime detour (talk • contribs) 23:41, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do not arbitrarily remove information from the article that has been verified through reliable third-party sources. Such is considered vandalism by Wikipedia. --Farix (Talk) 00:02, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Sorry, but if you have a publicly available website, then anyone on the web can link to it. That's the whole point of the web: it's a web of links. Additionally, Wikipedia has never claimed to be accurate all on its own. We require reliable, third-party sources for information, and this article only has primary sources. Wikipedia merely reports information which has already been published elsewhere.  ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:09, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  undoing confirmed information. 

message: I added the article to the Minnesota portal, i'm sure due to population wise there's going to be debate about it - but it's important to the anime fans.  Much like those that go to many other cons in minnesota, i felt it was important to be a part of minnesota events.  I also added some other information for this year, it'll probably get removed from what i see on this talk page.. but oh well. Reiko Osharecurry (talk) 08:45, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition to Minnestoa Portal 

message: The recent edit blanks out attendance numbers, directing people to verify the stats by posting them to animecons.com.  I've never seen an edit that almost looks like an ad before.  Blanking data and requesting a specific, pre-selected source is not how wiki is designed to work.
I'm reverting.  The correct way to handle this is to ask for citations on any questionable data.  This same edit was made, and reverted, months ago, and here it's back again.  Please seek consensus before doing so again.  Uberhill 02:20, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attendance data and animecons.com 

message: Substituted at 07:51, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment