Talk:List of minor and recurring characters from Hollyoaks

message: I've never known how to put images on a Wikipedia page. I know some of the character pages like Malachy Fisher had photos. Do you think the photos should be moved to the minor character page (the Eastenders and Corrie minor character pages have photos)? --JamesB3 (talk) 17:09, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, since they are such small sections, probably only one picture per person would be appropriate. Images can be added by typing Image:FILENAME (in their simplest form anyway). WP:IMAGES gives more guidance on how to include images. ~~ [Jam][talk] 23:47, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos 

message: Following on from the notability discussion above and "discussions" on Talk:Hollyoaks, do you think there would be consensus to move this to the above proposed title - "List of minor and recurring characters from Hollyoaks"? Some "fans" feel quite passionately that Kieron is not a minor character any longer (even though I still don't think he fits the WP:FICTION guidelines). Would changing this title perhaps ease their woes? ~~ [Jam][talk] 23:51, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd been thinking about that myself. It makes a lot of sense.--JamesB3 (talk) 10:37, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Shall I be bold and just do it? ~~ [Jam][talk] 10:38, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I just decided to go for it :). ~~ [Jam][talk] 10:46, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move to "List of minor and recurring characters from Hollyoaks" 

message: Should be left in the current part because he is in spoilers to come, so it means he is still current. Raintheone (talk) 08:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That he may be, but he hasn't returned yet, and Wikipedia is not a place for adding spoilers. Lets him in past until he returns. ~~ [Jam][talk] 09:54, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nige 

message: I know it might be confusing with some of the recent minor/recurring characters who still pop up sometimes but aren't listed in present, but do you think we should create a separate page for the past recurring/minor characters, like either all on one page (2004/2005-2008), or on separate pages (one page for 2005, another page for 2006, etc.)? The current page with both past and present recurring/minor characters is getting very large. I guess if it gets too much I could trim some of the more minor characters, like people who only appeared for a day. --JamesB3 (talk) 11:09, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering the list is so big, I suspect there could be a case for splitting them up. ~~ [Jam][talk] 11:56, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm glad you felt the way I did. I'm not sure how the whole thing would work (I guess the Eastenders pages could be a template) but I think it's a good idea. Do you think the past characters should all be on one page, or split up on separate pages per year? --JamesB3 (talk) 12:38, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say just the one page. I don't think Hollyoaks has so many past characters that it will need separate year pages. ~~ [Jam][talk] 13:10, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I split the page. If there's any corrections or changes you think need to be made, feel free. --JamesB3 (talk) 19:32, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Nice one. ~~ [Jam][talk] 21:02, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I wasn't entirely sure if I put down the right stuff, so I'm glad if it worked. I may add Aleksander Malota to the list, I keep forgetting about him. Do you think Leah Barnes should be added to the recurring section? --JamesB3 (talk) 21:54, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeh, I think Aleksander and Leah should be added to their respective pages. There are probably other characters that could have that done to them too at some point. ~~ [Jam][talk] 03:47, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

text: No, references help us prove that the articles are notable enough and can be kept in the main article space. Without the references (especially 3rd party references) then the article can be subject to deletion. ~~ [Jam][talk] 15:15, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: At first I thought someone might say, "If you don't have references for everyone then don't put them for a few," but I thought that was a good way to lead people to more information about some of the characters, especially the minor characters who are playing a big part in current stories, like Niall or Kieron. I guess the Channel 4 site doesn't count as third party though, or maybe it does? --JamesB3 (talk) 15:21, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, I don't think the Channel 4 site is particularly 3rd party, but it is a source nonetheless. Even if you don't have references for everyone, the few references that we have just help to support what is there already. Digital Spy might be a good site to check for 3rd party sources, and I think we still need some "real life" influences to the stories. For example, the awards for the John Paul/Craig storyline would add notability to their articles. ~~ [Jam][talk] 15:40, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split past and present characters? 

message: Why is he on this page? I'm going to find notability and move it. Raintheone (talk) 11:08, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see WP:FICTION before moving any characters off this page. ~~ [Jam][talk] 11:31, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you think we should move him to his own page now, since his story is going to start accelerating soon?  --JamesB3 (talk) 07:51, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm, I don't know. I've not read the article (I've ready enough spoilers already...) but I'd wait a little until the story line actually starts... ~~ [Jam][talk] 08:52, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. I'll update his profile when I get a chance. I guess I was worried his profile might start getting too long and people would wonder why he was in the recurring/minor section. --JamesB3 (talk) 20:45, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on the past week of episodes, do you think it's time to give Niall his own page yet? --JamesB3 (talk) 03:04, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Niall 

message: Laila/Leila not sure how it's spelt has made her onscreen appearence now, she is a regular. Saying that she is a minor at the moment so should be added to the page, she is Ravi's sister. 
Kieron has evolved into a real solid regular now too.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Raintheone (talk • contribs) 01:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Character 

message: I asked this above but thought it might have gotten lost under the more recent entries. Do you think Niall should be moved to a regular character section yet? I think his entry could be expanded somewhat but then that would take up too much room on the recurring page. --JamesB3 (talk) 21:09, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since I asked several times and there wasn't a response, I decided to move Niall to his own page. He's been a major character most of this year, and I included the references to try to make sure it wasn't just a plot summary. --JamesB3 (talk) 23:39, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Niall (again)

message: Since Val has had more to do lately, do you think she should still be on this page? I'm not entirely sure with her, Kieron, or Niall. --JamesB3 (talk) 20:06, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Val