Talk:Black caiman

message: Credible citations are needed for the assertions that the black caiman reaches 20 feet and is capable of taking puma and jaguars. Most scientists cap the length as 15 feet and state that reports of longer specimens are unsubstantiated. Likewise, predation on the jaguar is something that needs to be proven. I'll leave the page as is for now but will revise the length and remove the jaguar predation snippet at some point down the line unless sources can be provided. 149.79.54.95 13:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: The photograph originally appended to this article is most emphatically NOT a black caiman. The pictured animal possesses the angular "tabs" on the eyelids of the spectacled and broad-snouted caimans, it lacks the prominent rostral ridges of the black caiman, the snout is correspondingly too shallow, the eye sockets are too short, and it is solid black, whereas the "black" caiman is actually prominently striped, with pronounced blotches on the lower jaw, even as an adult. The animal pictured is a spectacled caiman, probably a brown caiman (believed to be common in the pet trade); the spectacle is remarkably weak, probably from pachyostosis in captivity. 72.177.116.124 15:07, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A clarification about the identity of the caiman in the picture,  it is in fact a yacare caiman at the Vancouver Aquarium.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pristis microdon (talk • contribs) 01:47, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article image

message: According to the black caiman article, black caimans have no predators. But according to the anaconda article, anacondas eat caimans. Anyone like to clear this up? Raffles mk 05:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the article I have, anacondas can handle fully grown spectacled caimans and spectacled caimans are considered very small. I also have a list of specific anaconda meals and 5 spectacled caimans being eaten by anacondas has been documented. However, the list is absent of black caimans. Black caimans are more or less too powerful for anacondas to eat though I can see a large anaconda taking on a small black caiman that's immature.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.30.137.56 (talk) 23:15, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do anacondas eat black caimans? 

message: Humans killing black caiman for their hide are not actual predators. Being an apex predator, the black caiman has no predators. I deleted the section predator. Furthermore, this article is really crappy. It has bad grammar, bad writing, and dubious facts. Firstly, I don't think the black caiman is the second largest crocodile, because it is not a crocodile at all, it is a crocodilian, and a Nile Crocodile is as big as a saltwater crocodile. Also, the intro said it is threatened, where as the status thing says they are not threatened, just conservation dependent.
Gtbob12 (talk) 20:40, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe you mean the article uses poor grammar. ;) 68.148.123.76 (talk) 23:12, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Predators

message: Mokele what is the largest black Caiman ever recorded?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.83.100.52 (talk) 00:37, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There are unconfirmed reports of 6m individuals, and while we know they can hit 4m, it's uncertain how much more. There seems to be an exceptional lack of data on this species prior to being decimated by hunters.  Mokele (talk) 16:47, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Largest caiman

message: They are now least concern http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/13053/0  — Preceding unsigned comment added by PaleoMatt (talk • contribs) 16:46, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Now Least Concern 

message: No 2409:4043:2C8F:24F4:1236:DF29:5483:2F2C (talk) 09:03, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Natural vegetation and wildlife 

message: The Black caiman based on a VERIFIED source caps out at 4.7m and anything stating otherwise is just a baseless claim besides possibly the 58.8 cm Dcl from UF 53600. Black caimans also have been shown again and again to be a docile, shy, and skittish species, Medem is a renowned Croc scientist and anything of that should not be revoked. Caiman Enthusiast (talk) 11:28, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outdated misinformation 

message: Small error here, but the article claims the Black Caiman is the largest species of the aforementioned family. However this family includes extinct species such as Purussaurus, which is noticeably larger in every metric than the Black Caiman.
The wording should probably be changed to "It is the largest species of the extant members of the Alligatoridae family." or something similar. It's a minor but important distinction. 2A00:23C7:3D82:E901:8CBB:3C66:B358:22D5 (talk) 15:10, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I updated it. (You can, too, you know.) Cougroyalty (talk) 15:22, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm aware, but I'm not confident enough in my technical skills to touch the pages honestly. 2A00:23C7:3D82:E901:482D:A531:436A:C752 (talk) 03:23, 11 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Largest Member Of The Alligatoridae?