Talk:Market Basket (New England)

message: Has there been any discussion about the current crisis?
The 2014 crisis is covered somewhere in the history section, and also has its own article  Tylr00 (talk) 23:54, 26 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Current Crisis 7/26/14

message: Why was the infobox removed?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:470:888B:2:60E4:7B1B:B0EA:BB88 (talk) 17:17, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox

message: "Demoulas Supermarkets Inc. employees have the best retirement plan and structure in the country" and "Market Basket and DeMoulas shows that professionalism and traditional dress make the perfect work environment" are very biased statements, IMHO.  This page shouldn't be an advertisement written by the front office. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RabidGreenMonkey (talk • contribs) 21:11, 12 April 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Advertisement

message: It's funny how this article presents everything that's wrong with Market Basket stores in a positive light.  
* "Fiercly resisted Industry trends"- I'd call it neglect.  The stores are hopelessly stuck in 1975, they are generally dimly lit, dumpy.  They won't even invest in non-slip floors, instead they dump gobs of kitty litter on the floors on bad weather days.  It's amazing that they even have price scanners.  The only time a Market Basket gets anything approaching a renovation is when a competitor moves into its area.  These renovations bring the store into about 1980.  
* "Market Basket stores usually offer a wider variety of many foods" - as long as they are strawberry flavored.
-The place rarely gets several flavors of anything. Just different types of items.
* "Understandably customer loyalty is intense"-  Only because they are the only grocery chain in town.
-Many parts of it are debatable. Loyalty is really fleeting.
* "high employee morale is typically noticeable"- Where?  Employees generally don't seem to want to be there.  Department managers often allow items to be out of stock for weeks at a time.
-Out of stock items are actually out of the control of the store itself. Until the warehouse gets it back in, there's nothing the chains can actually do about it.
* "and stores are usually quite crowded with a hustle and bustle feel" - is that what they call it?  The stores are too small, aisles are too tight, and you can't turn a corner without getting mowed down by a typically oblivious shopper.
-Not much you can do about space if you want to fit a lot of items in. The company skimps so they're likely to spend little on making the store bigger. Also, it depends on what sort of buildings they inherited.
* "only stores of the national, upscale image chains Trader Joe's and Whole Foods Markets come close to Market Basket's sales per square foot" - again, chalk that up to cramped stores that lack competitors in their neighborhoods.
-Well here, the smaller the store, the more puffed up the 'square foot' numbers will be.
I'd accuse this article of having been written by Market Basket's PR department, except I doubt they even have one.  Nor do I get the feeling they have even heard of Wikipedia, let alone the Internet (in 2006 they STILL have no website!).
The only saving grace of this chain is their low prices, which somehow they manage despite not having the volumes of other competing chains.
-Low prices are due to skimping on everything else (overhead, store design, etc.)
Yes, I'm not a happy Market Basket customer.  There are three MB's in my town, and no competitors.  Shopping at any of them is a generally frustrating experience.  If I want to shop somewhere else, I have to drive miles to a neighboring town.
-May as well drive there.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.204.155.241 (talk • contribs) 19:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What town is that you live in that has 3 Market Basket's in it? 68.189.241.158 (talk) 12:17, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  That would be Haverhill. The27thMaine (talk) 14:32, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: I've just made some effort at turning this into an encyclopedia article, but it's got a long way to go. Some important points:
* Every time a "fact" occurs to you about Market Basket, don't just sitck a new sentence, paragraph, etc. in to reflect this. Rather, think about where in the logical order of the article (order that, frankly, doesn't quite exist yet) that "fact" should go.
* I put "fact" in quotes because an awful lot has been postulated here with no supporting citation. This is a key element of Wikipedia or any publishing. If the assertions in this article aren't backed up with their sources, they will be deleted. Wikipedia is not a place for original research. Because you say you know something, that's not enough. Cite it.
* That said, not *every* little detail about Market Basket is pertinent. There have been many, many little factlets stuck in here, I can't imagine by whom or why, that are more distraction than solid substance. I still can't figure out why it's useful or relevant that the PA's went silent when Mike Demoulas died. Get the basic article down, then figure out if your trivia is worth including. And if you do include it, cite it.
* Style, please. So much here needs rewriting that it's hard to know where to start. I've triend and will continue, but for pete's sake, there's a one-hundred-six-word-long-sentence in this article. I wish I were an English teacher and had a red pen to write "see me" so I could explain why that's not alright. 18.173.1.42 17:20, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A rambling, disorganized article 

message: Where is there a Market Basket with a pharmacy in it?  I'm pretty sure that's wrong. RabidGreenMonkey 04:26, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This list is very useful and should be cited in the article. I will add it to an "Exxternal Link" section. 76.19.147.79 19:41, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pharmacy? 

message: What addresses for email are there for Market Basket? --dsaklad@zurich.csail.mit.edu 08:05, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What addresses for email are there for Market Basket? 

message: Who are the executive officers of Market Basket?...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Donwarnersaklad (talk • contribs) 16:06, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Executive officers of Market Basket 

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replies: text: I have added fair-use rationale to the image page MrZeebo 13:41, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Mkt-basket.jpg

message: I notice that the cause of death of George Demoulas in 1971 keeps changing from gun shot to heart attack. I read that he had a heart attack while vacationing with his family in Greece (http://www.answers.com/topic/demoulas-market-basket), but someone said that the "state department confirmed" that it was a gun shot. Can we get a primary source for this? I'm sure it was front-page news for the Lowell Sun, if someone can view the older issues on microfilm. He died on 27 May, as stated on Demoulas Brothers, this page continues to say "heart attack". The27thmaine (talk) 22:10, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gun shot or heart attack? 

message: Can anyone tell me when the Market Basket in Oxofrd will be up in operation?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.74.118.132 (User talk:72.locest74.11rek) 23:04, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Signs are up in other stores saying that they are takeing employment applications for that store. I'm hearing Nov because they want it to be going for the holidays.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by WIZARD Racing (talk • contribs) 12:03, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Market Basket Oxford Mass>? 

message: That site definitely does not meet the requirements of the reliable sources policy.  It cannot remain as a reference--it is a corporate site, self-published, with no editorial oversight.  It can't even remain as an external link, per WP:ELNO.  The contact information that another editor deleted is especially unacceptable, per WP:SPAM and WP:NOTDIRECTORY.  Please do not re-add that info.  I believe that some of the other references also may nto meet WP:RS, but I don't have time to check at the moment.  Qwyrxian (talk) 22:12, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I feel that it should not be included in the article since it is not actually sourcing anything, but I do not agree with the part about being corporate and self-published. As the corporate website, information published by it is certainly reliable. The only thing that it would be a bad reference for is for claims about other establishments where it is not an "expert on the subject". For example, it is perfectly fine to source quarterly profits and company statistics, but not things like "it is the most popular supermarket in the area". Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 03:54, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: But the website is a collection of information about other stores and companies.  The citation was quoting a company called "Dealmakers" to verify facts about DeMoulas/Market Basket.  That means it falls squarely under the restriction on using SPS to talk about other sources.   And, as you are correct to point out, they certainly do not qualify as an "expert on the subject," at least in the sense that Wikipedia uses the term expert. Qwyrxian (talk) 02:35, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It sounded like you were saying it was Market Basket's corporate site originally, but if it is just a general corporate site, then no it cannot talk about other companies reliably. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 12:20, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tenant Search Link 

message: Market Basket wont start a site, so someone did. http://www.MyDemoulas.com It helps me and alot of people, why cant it be listed?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.229.145.100 (talk) 04:27, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not the place to advertise a fansite.  See WP:ELNO #10 & #11. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 04:31, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  No links?  

message: Market Basket's business strategy should be mentioned. By keeping prices low at almost all costs, they greatly increase sales volume, reducing the overhead per item, making the chain highly profitable. They do not use any gimmicks.
Market Basket has a very loyal following, but let's call a spade a spade. Its customer loyalty is based 100% on one factor -- price. A recent study of Boston area supermarkets showed that Market Basket has by far the lowest prices in the area. The quality is about the same as its competitors, except that its stores are not as nice looking and its produce is fresher. Because Boston area grocery stores tend to have higher prices, other low cost grocery chains such as Wegman's are starting to enter the Boston market. Bostoner (talk) 02:33, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Business Strategy 

message: in 2011 or early 2012 the original Burlington, MA store was abandoned and relocated to a larger location within the same mall. The old store was quite dated; the new location is thoroughly modern.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.7.149.191 (talk) 23:47, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Burlington, MA store 

message: So is it 1916 or 1917? -- Kendrick7talk 20:36, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founding year, article and side template have different ones 

message: the feuds/protests section makes it sound like arthur t is george bailey!  let's have a little PERSPECTIVE here.  his side of the family STOLE the business from the other side, and the only reason arthur t has been allowed to set foot on the property lo these 20 years is b/c judge lopez was a bit careless in her ruling.  she made it abundantly clear her intent was to REMOVE the arthur t side once and for all (actually father MIKE, at that point), but didn't transfer quite enough stock to effect this.
if justice had been served, arthur s would have been in control from the day of that ruling, and arthur t would be in jail with his late dad.  so let's not jump on the "arthur t is messiah" spin in this article.
reference #3 gives a great many details which should make their way into this article.
http://www.fundinguniverse.com/company-histories/demoulas-market-basket-inc-history
it does not cover the recent accusations agaist arthur t for embezzlement and real estate fraud.
it also, unfortunately, gets judge maria lopez's first name wrong.  209.172.25.152 (talk) 04:33, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  biased and woefully inadequate 

message: I find that many of the issues spoken about in the talk pages are still flagrant in the article.  This article focuses on a storytelling of the recent drama unfolding at MB. Perhaps reorganizing some info from the history section into more poignant sections such as "about" "business model" and others  may help make this more readable Tylr00 (talk) 00:41, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The article doesn't need a major rewrite - it's actually very well written, and some of the historical information already was placed in a separate article. The tag is for articles that need to be rewritten from the ground up, not well-sourced articles with good prose that need only incremental work. Did you realize that some of the comments you replied to on the talk page were nearly a decade old? Pi.1415926535 (talk) 01:00, 27 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  2016 Rewrite 

message: I removed "Unlike most low-price grocers, " before "Market Basket does not use loyalty cards." because the reference does not say anything about low-price grocery stores. In general it is the high price supermarkets that use loyalty cards, not the low price ones. Bostoner (talk) 00:04, 4 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed unsubstantiated claim about loyalty cards. 

message: Article mentions the Rhode Island stores as most recent, and as bringing them to 90 stores. The first is no longer true; Hanover opened a store earlier this year. The second wasn't even true at the time; while Johnston was indeed numbered as store 90, five stores have closed over the years, making the current store count 86. 2601:188:C580:6C90:55EA:9A7D:FEE:E343 (talk) 16:05, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Store count