Talk:Karma in Hinduism

message: * Page numbers missing in ref 1, 4 etc.
* In The role of divine forces, can the long headings be shortened, like Samkya view, Vedanta view?
* Use  for formatting web ref (bare urls) like http://www.shaivam.org/hipkarma.htm
* Vedanta's refutations and A Supreme God is ultimately the enforcer of karma but humans have the free will to choose good or evil - need to be merged as present similar ideas
* Gita interpretations and role of Guru uses the WP:PRIMARY source (Verses 4:14, 9.22 and 18.61) as ref, specify specific book which interprets the verses like that.
--Redtigerxyz  Talk  03:11, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions 

message: Apropos of this edit.  I'm somewhat dismayed by the reference: I really thought Yuvraj Krishan was a more careful scholar.  But here he is clearly cherry-picking.  Worse, he is ignoring the literature on the subject, and that too after actually citing some authors, specifically Keith and Oldenberg.  
* Krishan cites Keith's The Religion and Philosophy of the Veda and Upanishads (full text at archive.org, Vol 1 and Vol 2) in this chapter, but quite remarkably says nothing about the discussion on p. 570ff. (in Vol 2), where among other verses, 1.164.30 and 1.164.38 in particular are treated. Sample:   
* Krishan also cites Keith's Rigveda Brahmanas (full text) for AB.2.8, but again fails to take note of Keith's introduction, p.44: 
In short, Krishan's signal failure to address the views in prior literature means that he is not stating an academic consensus (as would be appropriate for a citation, especially in the lede) but merely his own opinion.  However, I'm quite aware that not a few editors would dearly like to find transmigration in the Rgveda, so I'm going to let the edit stand for a while, if only to see who wants to defend it. rudra (talk) 08:21, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transmigration in older Vedic texts  

message: Professor Pandey in his book, Encylopedia of Indian Philosophy,  appeared to take excerpts from the Wikipedia article and pasted it in his book; I was checking Google Books and note that whole excerpts from the wikipedia article on Karma in Hinduism were published in Vraj Kumar Pandey 's Encyclopedia of Indian Philosophy, pg. 33 See, http://books.google.com/books?cd=1&q=swami+sivananda+karma+vraj+kumar+pandey&btnG=Search+Books I don't know if Mr Pandey acknowledge in a footnote in his book, Wikipedia? 
I changed one of the references to Thirugnana Sambanthar in the current article, since the referenced 2004 web link was dead, and Mr. Pandey seemed to have copied the Wikipedia article anyway. Indeed, the earliest versions of the article with reference to Swami Sivananda, with reference to karma was made in 2004 way prior to the 2007 publication of Professor Pandey: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Karma_in_Hinduism&oldid=8711064 I hope that he referenced Wikipedia. The Google snippet was a limited preview so I don't know whether he referenced wikipedia.
The publisher is Anmol Publications. Raj2004 (talk) 18:39, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Copying of this Wikipedia article from an Indian publisher

message: Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://coachgray.blogspot.com/2009/08/laws-of-karma-and-samsara.html. (Other sources may be involved as well; this was discovered through a contributor copyright investigation.) Infringing material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you.  Moonriddengirl (talk) 15:02, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: I've added a new section on this, since we now have a good primary source, also found entry on Nyaya which gives more information - added their primary source as a ref likewise. Obviously needs attention of an expert - but I thought it needed at least a minimal stub mention in the article so have just gone ahead and added it. Robert Walker (talk) 13:45, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Proof of existence of God from Karma

message: Dear Raj2004, You removed the "failed verification" and other tags, which after rechecking the sources, I have re-added.
I placed a tag, in Ramanuja section that alleges the phrase, "due to Vishnu as the supreme Enforcer of karma" (a tag you removed here). I have rechecked Krishan cite, pages 155-156 which you allege supports this. These failed verification. Neither of those pages nor the entire chapter of Krishan ever makes any reference to "Vishnu as the supreme Enforcer". I have checked the history of edits, and it is you who originally added that summary (see 1 and 2). In good faith, I am assuming you accidentally cited the wrong pages, and for now I have just tagged it. Please identify where in Krishan's book is Ramanuja alleged to refer to "Vishnu as the supreme Enforcer of karma".
You allege Tapsyananda is a noted scholar. Noted by whom? Please identify any peer reviewed scholarly literature or reliable secondary or tertiary source that cite Tapsyananda and his personal opinions about karma. I tried searching citation index and he is not mentioned even in one source. What persuades you that Tapsyananda is a cited, non-fringe reliable source on karma literature? Kind regards, Mark.muesse (talk) 14:04, 29 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Failed verification and other issues