Talk:Finglish

message: I have noticed that here in Finland, in modern Finnish, there is a very noticeable tendency to borrow words from English and bend them into a Finnish way. Two forms come to mind, each slightly different. 
In one, an English word is adopted in full, but can be conjugated as though it was a Finnish word. Thus one sees job ads for "Business Controllereja" (Business Controllers), the words being totally in English, but the case form totally Finnish.  The reason for the adoptions  puzzles me because words normally get adopted in a language because words like this normally get adopted because there is no equivalent word in the target language. Clearly this is not the case with Business Controller because perfectly good Finnish equivalents exist. 
The other type of adoption is perhaps more understandable. For example "pliis" and "sori" are tending to replace "ole hyvä" and "anteeksi" for "please" and "sorry", the, audible word being totally adopted as a Finnish word and spelled accordingly. These are clearly often heard words that get adopted because of commonality.  
The second example is prehaps more understandable as to why this has happened, but its less easy to understand why "Business Controller" has not become "Bisniskontrolleri" or even "Pisniskontrolleri".  Perhaps its a kind of lingusitic snobbery, rather in the same was as some English writers prefer to write "bon appétit" rather than the normal adoption "bon apetit".  I agree that these two examples are not Finglish as originally definded but it is a kind of adoption of English words into a more modern Finnish according to different kinds of rules.
What is the native Finnish view on these kind of adoptions of English into Finnish?
Tom 16:27, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Honestly? That they're just more proof of Finland's cultural impoverishment under the torrent of American influence. --Kizor 06:14, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not quite. They are more like fads. Expressions like that come and go Since English and Finnish are vastly different laguages, such loans are likely to either disappear, become calqued or become morphed into normal Finnish..  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.237.141.27 (talk) 10:30, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finglish in Finland 

message: The current article is limited to discussing English words imported into Finnish, but Finglish can also mean the reverse: the mutations in English when spoken/written by a native Finn, as showcased in this Flickr group. Worth a section?  See also Tankero, which touches on this but doesn't really explain what or why "tankero-English" actually is. Jpatokal 13:54, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That sort of Finglish-English is abundant in Wikipedia itself, where Finnish authors like to talk about things like Continuation War , Greater Wrath or use names like Viipuri in 14th century context.Warbola 17:12, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finglish in English 

message: The first half of this article is basically a dupe of American Finnish.  The second half, describing current use in Finland, is what "Finglish" nor ally refers to. Jpatokal (talk) 08:50, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article mixes two different things