Talk:Petersburg, Alaska

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message: The Economy section of this article the following statement appears "Petersburg has the most efficient and effective small boat fishing fleet in the world." it is noted that there is no citation for this statement however I do not believe that there is any way to verify it with any citation. I would like to remove the statement unless anyone has any objections or studies ranking the efficiency of fishing fleets around the world. I have found a few studies looking at the efficiency of fishing but not one of them rank fleets from specific locations.
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message: Not sure anyone actually patrols this page, but Petersburg incorporated as a borough almost two weeks ago:    -Kudzu1 (talk) 09:17, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This article should remain titled as is and pertain only to the city of Petersburg. There should be a new article entitled Petersburg Borough, Alaska, which would pertain to the new borough. The reason is that the city of Petersburg comprises only 77.27% of the borough's population (2010 census), and only 1.34% of its land area. There are three other cities in the borough: Kake, which comprises 14.6% of its population, Kupreanof, which comprises 0.71%, and Port Alexander, which comprises 1.36%. Unincorporated areas comprise the balance of 6.06% of its population, and more importantly, 98.16% of the borough's land area. Backspace (talk) 07:42, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: 1) "City" has a very specific meaning in Alaska.  There is no City of Petersburg anymore. 2) You may wish to peruse the links found above, particularly the map provided with the KTOO story.  The southwestern boundary of the borough snakes along Kupreanof Island to avoid including Kake, which means that Port Alexander isn't included either. 3) The Alaska Department of Commerce, Community and Economic Development's Community Database Online separately lists Petersburg, the Petersburg Borough and the Petersburg Census Area, which is sufficient for establishing independent notability of these entities.  However, what does the Census Bureau currently have to say?  I think the course of action here would be to redesignate the former corporate boundaries of the City of Petersburg as the Petersburg CDP, replace the Petersburg Census Area with the Petersburg Borough as a major census division of the state, and move the remaining territory into Hoonah–Angoon.  However, that would be WP:CRYSTAL if I went onto the Census website and found that nothing has been updated yet or announced as a change from existing data. 4) While I do support having separate articles for the former city/CDP and the borough, keep in mind that what we're talking about here also applies to Skagway and Yakutat.  The only reason we already have separate articles in the case of Haines is that they already had a borough in place when they reincorporated. RadioKAOS  –  Talk to me, Billy  21:40, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I should have specified that I was giving data from the 2010 census, the latest official numbers that I had to work with. These numbers will have changed since then because of whatever new boundaries have been drawn. My main point was that the "city" of Petersburg should remain as the urban area and not the current borough, since it is only a very small part (by area; by population it is a major part however) of the new borough. As far as areas that are not in the new borough, what evidence do with have so that we could put them into the Hoonah-Angoon census area? They weren't there before the new borough existed. Is there still a "remainder" to the Petersburg Census Area, even though Petersburg and most of its territory have gone away? Backspace (talk) 10:40, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
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