Talk:Rami Malek

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is completely irrelevant and should be deleted, any thoughts?Michael Cook 02:40, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree in general - his appearance in the play might have been mentioned, as it was part of his career - but the remainder sales pitch is inappropriate. All dated now.Parkwells (talk) 14:46, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia article not an advertisement 

message: I've removed most of the irrelevant references to Egypt. It appears some editor in the past wants/wanted to tie this actor to the country. He parents origins are noted in the bio.... though even that appears be not relevant to him as an actor. Perhaps someone would like to tackle that. War (talk) 04:04, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: He has been quoted as saying he strongly identifies as Egyptian, although he did not grow up there.Parkwells (talk) 21:11, 5 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd Egypt additions 

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message: The Copts are a largely distinct entity of the greater Egyptian nationality. I think it'd be appropriate to label Malek as a "Coptic American actor". Frevangelion (talk) 10:45, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean, it depends on how he identifies himself. Most Copts do not identify as Arab but some do. GergisBaki (talk) 04:11, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Egyptian-American or Coptic American? 

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message: I noticed on most actor and actresses pages such as Tom Hanks and Angelina Jolie, the reaction from critics is usually placed in the career sections as the projects are mentioned. I would recommend doing the same here, deleting the section and moving the quotes nearby the subject matter in the Career section. And before  deletes the commentary again as done previously, I'd like to point out how common it is to include these types of quotes on actor's/actresses' biography, as well quotes by the subject in relation to major projects/awards. Don't want any sort of edit warring to occur over a common practice. oncamera(t) 18:37, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I appreciate you reaching out to me. I've seen both practices done, and actually had a bio article rejected for GA approval for (among other reasons) not having a reception section. However, I don't have a strong opinion one way or the other, but as you already eloquently said, the information should not be deleted. I will integrate it into the body of the article per (what I consider) consensus.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 18:49, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  It seems you have a lot of experiencing helping get articles promoted into good article and feature article status, so I'll leave it up to you what you think is best practice, I just haven't seen it done this way except on movies pages. I initially started to include it in the career section, but that's when  began deleting it, despite it's existence being important inorder to have the article promoted to GA status. I would love to help get this article reviewed and promoted one day so it's all towards that goal. oncamera(t) 18:59, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have the same goal, and I look forward to working with you!--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 19:08, 4 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for moving the quote to an appropriate section.--Captaincapn (talk) 04:41, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Reception section

message: Per WP:Ethnicity, "an American actor" goes in the lead.  Not Egyptian, Egyptian-American etc.  That part of his heritage is included with "Being of Egyptian heritage, he's been an advocate of diversity in Hollywood and chosen roles towards that end" as the last sentence in the opening paragraph and is written about throughout the article.  However, it does not go into the lead. Please stop this edit warring. oncamera 06:43, 12 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Egyptian" in the lead 

message: There seems to be some evidence that Rami is dating his co-star in BoRhap, but unfortunately, neither of them have publicly confirmed it, and sites that are reporting on it are on Wikipedia's blacklist. So, I guess we'll have to wait until a better source emerges, or one of them comments on it before we can include it in the article.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 03:07, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Rami's girlfriend

message: Hey! While this article still needs some work, I felt we were reaching the point where it might be ready for review the Guild of Copyeditors. Does anyone else agree?--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 21:53, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: You did a lot of work in the article! I think it's ready. oncamera 11:56, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! I submitted it to the committee, so hopefully we'll hear something soon.  They average wait time is 20 days.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 19:07, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: GOCE

message: Is there any valid reason for this blind revert, ? Krimuk2.0 (talk) 08:06, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, because the opening paragraph is now vague and pointless with the general links to the awards, and then the redundancy that the GG and Emmy nominations are then specified again in the third paragraph in the lead. The previous version made it clear what his most important works were and the awards he won for them. Like you said, it could use a cleanup of a few of the awards, but the rest was unnecessary and unhelpful to a certain degree. We are working to have this page promoted to Good Article status and you can see examples like Stephen Colbert start out with what they're best known for. oncamera 08:18, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: See Amy Adams, Bradley Cooper, Ben Affleck, Emma Stone, Angelina Jolie -- FA-class articles, for a few examples on how a BLP lead should be. Reverting well-meaning editors, who have experience in writing such articles, will not serve any purpose. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 08:27, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  The opening only needed a trimming of awards. I made the edits. This shouldn't be an edit war since your issue was with too many awards being listed. oncamera 08:40, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: If there shouldn't be an edit war, then do not go around reverting other editors. You need to explain clearly why this version is inferior to "your" version. Waiting for the input of other univolved editors is best in such instances. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 08:44, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Took your version of what he's best known for and moved it into the opening paragraph. And made a slight copyedit that removed extra info about BH in the lead, since this is an article about him foremost and not the movie. Seems like a good compromise for what we both want. oncamera 08:54, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: What's the harm in chronology? Krimuk2.0 (talk) 08:56, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  What's the harm with putting what he's best known for first? It's what sites like Google source when people google his name, which you can see if you do so. It only shows a small amount of text and it should be about the highlights of his career, not the fact he's born to Egyptian immigrant parents. oncamera 09:00, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The purpose of this encyclopedia is not to promote the person on Google, but to write a well-balanced article on the subject, but I doubt that's what you're here for. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 11:26, 8 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Keep it civil on Wikipedia, no need to make things personal. Cheers, oncamera 15:17, 8 January 2019 (UTC)

text: I'm sorry that I bothered to improve this article is all I can say. It's absolutely awful the way contributors take well-intentioned improvements to be "hostile" and make ill-informed comments about personal attacks, when you do not own the article. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 15:02, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: When I added to the article the past couple of months,  would make improvements without demeaning editing summaries or implying I'm editing Wikipedia for unencyclopedic reasons (just because I think the opening lead should feature his most important works). I appreciate their improvements and had fun collaborating and building this article. Just saying, there's other ways to improve an article without the aggression towards other editors. oncamera 16:58, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The aggression is when a user blindly reverts improvements, breaks 3RR and then makes baseless accusations of personal attacks. Krimuk2.0 (talk) 18:27, 9 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead 

message: So, for those of us working on the article, I just wanted to give an update. You probably noticed that the article has had a GOCE review, and Twofingered Typist made some great improvements on the article. He suggested that we standardize the citation formatting (I noticed some dates don't match) and that we trim the number of citations behind each sentence.  So, I will try to incorporate those suggestions. As always, if anyone comes across an update or correction, we can just improving that article.  If I don't hear any objections, I plan to nominate the article for GA very soon.  It usually takes quite some time to hear back for GAN, but I'm hoping that the fact that it's awards season may hasten their response.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 20:14, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: GA submission

message: Add upcoming role as The Human Torch in Avengers:Endgame SiriusLee314 (talk) 20:42, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Couldn't find any evidence of this.  If you find a reliable source, feel free to request this addition again.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 20:50, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 22 January 2019 

message: I am personally not against listing the wins for Golden Globes, SAG, and BAFTA in the lead for Bohemian Rhapsody. I know Krimuk2.0 removes them with the reason being this isn't an awards page, but there's nothing that say those main awards cannot be listed. They are listed on other actors lead paragraphs and are considered major awards. oncamera 23:40, 10 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which awards in lead? 

message: I'm certainly not very good at figuring out the WP:IPA and/or Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Pronunciation formatting for names, but wondering if someone could add it for how to pronounce his name correctly? Here's a Youtube video of himself saying it over and over incase anyone wants to assist in that. Rami Malek's name. Thanks, oncamera 13:45, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  IPA for his name pronunciation? 

message: I believe the name in Arabic script should remain in the article for the following reasons:
#The subject is Egyptian-American and has an Arabic name. Similar Egyptian-Americans who have their names written in their native script include: this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, this, ...
#It is particularly needed for this particular individual as his second name "Said" can be a transliteration of two different names in Arabic, namely "سعيد" and "سيد". Including the name in its native script removes this ambiguity.
I know this would make the first line of the article look bloated, but as I pinted out, it's both a habit on WP and helps clarify ambiguity. I'm with the consensus whether it's on keeping or removing it. Ahmed M Farrag (talk) 23:41, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: There are videos of him speaking Arabic and the article includes much about his Egyptian heritage, including the quote in the early life section. I believe it should be included. He's also spoken in interviews about the difficulties with his name being mispronounced throughout his life, that's another reason why it should be included. oncamera 00:52, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name in Arabic script 

message: In the opening paragraph, the mouseover label for "Academy Award" is vandalized  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SixthSora (talk • contribs) 21:50, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Academy Award Label 

message: Please change "his" to "him" in the "Early life and education" section, line number 14. I believe the grammar is wrong and should be fixed. NightBag10 (talk) 21:19, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Alduin2000 (talk) 22:06, 6 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 June 2019 

message: NightBag10 wanted to review this page but withdrew and, following my advice, nominated the review page for deletion. I've deleted it, no effort was spent there. Sorry for the confusion. Huon (talk) 21:56, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, sorry about that, I'm really stupid. It won't happen again though. NightBag10 (talk) 22:01, 30 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA review 

message: The IPA help should link to Egyptian Arabic, not Arabic as that page only shows modern standard Arabic pronunciations. 
Qizilqurt (talk) 01:07, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I updated it to Egyptian Arabic. Thanks, oncamera 22:58, 15 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  At the risk of sounding pedantic, while it's correct to indicate that the pronunciation (IPA) is associated with the Egyptian vernacular, it makes no sense to indicate that the name is written in an Egyptian Arabic script, as such thing does not exist, especially that this is a name and not a block of text that could contain Egyptian-specific slang. Thus, I suggest we keep the IPA linking to Egyptian Arabic, as Qizilqurt suggested earlier, but restore the link to Arabic for the script of the name. --Ahmed M Farrag (talk) 09:39, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  You can make that change, sounds like you know what's best. Cheers, oncamera 01:03, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  IPA help should link to Egyptian Arabic, not Arabic (MSA) 

message: There is no mention of the long break Malek took from acting after The Pacific. Suggest the following be added after mention of the mini-series?
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Malek confessed to feeling overwhelmed after The Pacific, and moved to Buenos Aires. He stated: "I thought I had enough. I said: 'I will live there until my head is fixed…I had a great time. I lived in Gurruchaga and Paraguay, in Palermo."In 2019, brief random street footage taken in Palermo, showing what appeared to be Malek, but timestamped 2008, appeared on Twitter.
Newspaper references are: “Rapsodia Bohemia”: la vida de Rami Malek en Argentina, La Gaceta,  8 Nov 2018, ; La "costumbre argentina" de Rami Malek, protagonista de Mr. Robot, La Nacion, 16 September 2016 
And for the footage: </ref>
ClearBreeze (talk) 03:24, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It is mentioned. Read the first paragraph under the subheading: 2010–2015: Supporting roles.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 03:26, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time in South America 

message: Hoping we can reach a concensus on the image for the main picture. Seems to be a lot of back and forth between the 2015 Paley one and the 2019 SAG one with the argument the latter is most recent and therefore more relevant, however the image quality is not satisfactory in my opinion. I'd prefer the sharper Paley one or another entirely but don't want to keep messing with it without consulting others first.
Narra1 (talk) 14:53, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure the 2019 SAG one is properly licensed either. Anyway, I'm changing it back to the 2015 one unless there is consensus to change it.  oncamera  (talk page) 15:56, 12 December 2020 (UTC)

text: Update, I moved it to the award section. Quality just isn't good enough to be the main photo compared to the 2015 version but I think it works where I put it instead.  oncamera  (talk page) 16:05, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Hopefully that is a satisfactory compromise for everyone. Thank you! Narra1 (talk) 01:23, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Image