Talk:Bronchitis

message: Where does it explain what bronchitis actually is in a way that most people understand? Is it a viral/bacterial infection? Is it something else? Does the inflammation make you open to these, or is one a by-product of the rest? SOMEBODY HELP!!!!!
Also, why is most of the stuff repeated??? PLease improve the quality of this article.2.98.225.116 (talk) 20:35, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Hmmm

message: I am only a second year science student so I am hesitant to edit this article. However from my understanding it is a common misconception that the overuse of antibiotics causes antibiotic resistant bacteria. Think about it. If you are prescribed antibiotics for a bacterial bronchitis and you have viral bronchitis, you lack the bacterium that causes bronchitis, so it can’t mutate to become antibiotic resistant as it doesn’t exist in your system. The real cause of antibiotic resistant bacteria is when people don’t finish all of their antibiotics as prescribed. If you are prescribed 10 days worth and you stop taking them at 5 days, because you start feeling better, you still have some bacteria which caused your illness that survives. That bacteria will mutate and become antibiotic resistant. So I think this article needs to be fixed to say that.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.26.96.66 (talk) 18:44, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No sorry that's not true - antibiotic treatment for bronchitis would affect ALL bacteria in/on your body, not just your lungs.  Some of these will be naturally resistant to the antibiotic, or partially resistant.  After you have finished your course of antibiotics(even the whole course), those bacteria will have survived.  Not only will they be able to recolonise your body with antibiotic resistant progeny, they are often able to pass these antibiotic resistance genes to the non-resistant strains that recolonise, which have never seen the original antibiotic (see bacterial conjugation, transduction, transformation etc).These can be different species from the original, and/or capable of causing brochitis.  Bacterial bronchitis is generally from an opportunistic bacterial strain, meaning that the bacteria are present all the time, and not just in your lungs.  they just wait for an in, which might be a viral infection for example.  Also I should point out that antibiotics don't 'mutate' bacteria as your post seems to imply, just provide selection conditions which promote emmergance of antibiotic resistant strains. 94.193.94.71 (talk) 17:49, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Acute Bronchitis

message: I am jjjgoing to take off the line in the "references" portion of the article that says "It often leads to a sudden, violent death", because this doesn't seem to be a reference. csieb2011 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 10:50, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sudden Death? 

message: * Looking through other sources (NIH) it seems that acute bronchitis caused by a virus or bacteria could be infectious, being spread through mucus particles. The claim that bronchitis is not infectious that is made in the main article appears incorrect. Is there a citation for that claim? -V madhu (talk) 16:51, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Infections or not?

message: The article listed two conflicting definitions of chronic bronchitis (symptoms over 2 vs 3 years). I've reconciled the two definitions to point to '2 years', in accordance to a report I found and referenced at the CDC. That report though referenced other documents as part of its definition, so perhaps the original source would be a better reference? - William McVey, Oct 21, 2009
"is characterized by the presence of the grim reaper  seriously??? Was This added as a joke-- someone fix please.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.207.54.89 (talk) 20:40, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chronic Bronchitis 

message: I have removed portions of this article which seem to have been copied from Kidshealth.org.
Shijaz (talk) 07:19, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright Violation

message: In an effort to improve the quality of this article, I think we would find it beneficial to add a main picture to the article. Perhaps we could add a diagram of how Bronchitis affects the lungs. Please feel free to express your thoughts. If you think I should find a picture and upload it, I would be more than happy to do so. Tyrol5  [Talk] 17:44, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Picture 

message: It is proposed that Bronchitis be part of the trial of a new template; see the green strip at the top of Pain where it has been in place for a couple of months. The purpose of this project is to encourage readers to edit, while equipping them with the basic tools. If you perceive a problem with this, or have any suggestions for improvement, please discuss at the project talk page --Anthonyhcole (talk) 09:50, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, why did my new section disappear without any record of edits in the history? 67.204.1.21 (talk) 16:35, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Invitation to edit

message: A doctor I saw after seven full days of being sick diagnosed bronchitis and ordered a chest x-ray. I was given clarithromycin 500 mg 2x/day for "underlying illness." I'm also using antibacterial lozenges and mouthwash because my most severe symptom is sore throat, at times reaching about 6 out of 10 on the pain scale. So it seems that the prohibition on prescribing antibiotics and antibacterials for bronchitis is not universal, and perhaps the article should reflect that. 66.49.178.132 (talk) 19:54, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: For anyone who may still be interested - Even with bacterial bronchitis, the CDC advises not to take antibiotics. Even so, an MD might prescribe antibiotics for a client if they seem to have a concurrent bacterial infection or prophylactically, if the client is extremely ill or has a history of immune dysfunction and the MD fears that a possible bacterial infection could also develop. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 17:52, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Treatment with antibiotics revisited 

message: not great quality source, but often you have to compromise for the history section. lesion (talk) 06:05, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, not the best resource and I might use it if my other leads don't come through. I found a review paper solely about it and I've asked a user to see if she has access. If not, I'm going to try again at the resource exchange and if not, then I'll have to explore other avenues to find a source. I appreciate you finding that though. If you find anything else, don't hesitate to let me know. TylerDurden8823 (talk) 06:55, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  source for history section? 

message: (moved from article.) This whole damn article is too complex some people can't understand these terms — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.44.212.96 (talk • contribs) 02:11, 29 January 2013
:It will be more helpful if you can give specific examples of sentences that are too complex so we can work on making them more accessible.TylerDurden8823 (talk) 19:01, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too complex 

message: I added some external links to medlineplus & the mayo clinic, which should help people looking for a non-technical treatment summary. This is one of the most highly-trafficked medical articles on Wikipedia, per WP:5000 -- phoebe / (talk to me) 18:31, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  external links 

message: Infections or lung irritants cause acute bronchitis (http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/health-topics/topics/brnchi/causes.html). However I am having a hard time to find some literature on this? Richiez (talk) 22:29, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-infectious causes 

message: "In 2013, it resulted in 2.9 million deaths, up from 2.4 million deaths in 1990"
This makes it sound as if it has become more widespread, while in reality world population grew much more than that in the same period. Ibmua (talk) 13:11, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Adjusted. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 13:13, 2 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Epidemiology 

message: "Bronchial wall thickening, as can be seen on CT scan, generally (but not always) impies inflammation of the bronchi. Normally, the ratio of the bronchial wall thickness and the bronchial diameter is between 0.17 and 0.23.Page 112 in: "
This is not used in diagnosis? Last think we want to imply is that those with bronchitis should request a CT. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 09:16, 6 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: CT for diagnosis of acute bronchitis

message: Lets go through the NIH source you have used to try to say "Chronic bronchitis is a type of COPD". The source says:
"Chronic bronchitis is an ongoing cough that lasts for several months and comes back two or more years in a row." 
"Chronic bronchitis is often part of a serious condition called chronic obstructive pulmonary disease (COPD)."
Yes both of these statements are correct and consistent with the rest of the literature and neither one says it is a type of COPD. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:09, 1 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: NHLBI text

message: For "Chronic bronchitis is a component of COPD.""
It would support that it was a component but we already say that.
Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:15, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: We need a newer source than 2006

message: I do not understand were this text comes from "The ICD-11 lists chronic bronchitis with emphysema as "emphysematous bronchitis" which it lists as a "certain specified COPD"." Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 17:52, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It is on the page given, in the drop down list from emphysema search, under CA22.1 is emphysematous bronchitis which i can only assume is its description. i have also come across this mix elsewhere.--Iztwoz (talk) 18:31, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah okay just shows up when you search for emphysema. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:25, 31 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: ICD11

message: just to note that edits changed in Treatment section need re-doing. (Info does not now match refs)--Iztwoz (talk) 15:14, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Adjusted some. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:49, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit attention

message: https://books.google.bg/books?id=enY4yvTkS9oC&pg=PA34
Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:44, 9 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: History of the terms

message: I don’t understand why you adjusted a good edit , in my view well explained and completely supported by the refs , with the introduction of some sort of urban slang? If this is the intent I suggest it’s culture specific as the British version would need the ‘’innit’’ tag. "Well no longer used, innit?"  Also, your edit introduced the use of "distinct types" which none of the references refer to. Each one was used as a label for COPD.-- Iztwoz (talk) 06:03, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure why you removed "Previously the term "chronic bronchitis" was also used for a type of COPD" Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:30, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I had removed this as no reference supports this usage. I have just removed the older WHO ref placed alongside the newer ref which modified the wording - so why include it? As previously written on COPD page how can it be said that they (including emphysema) were previously called types of COPD – they are types of COPD currently defined in every website posted. They were names used for COPD which is completely different to saying that they were different entities as writ on COPD page. Previously chronic bronchitis and emphysema were called COPD which is very different from calling them types of COPD.  Today's usage universally  describes them as types of COPD. So however you have decided to interpret things in this way is not at all helpful to any reader - in fact it is very confusing if not meaningless. Is there a reason for even including the sentence.?Iztwoz (talk) 12:34, 9 September 2019 (UTC)

text: But neither says they were types of COPD - they were "used as labels" or the "terms are no longer used".   
The following quotes are from current usage: 
“Chronic bronchitis and emphysema are common types of COPD”    
“COPD is an umbrella term used to describe progresssive lung diseases including emphysema, chronic bronchitis, and refractory asthma” 
“COPD is a group of lung conditions including bronchitis and emphysema”  
“Chronic bronchitis is one type of COPD (chronic obstructive pulmonary disease).” 
You are stating that previously chronic bronchitis was used for a type of COPD — which must mean that now it is either used for something else, or is not a type of COPD — yet all current definitions call it a type of COPD even if that is modified by airflow limitation.
And to call it a "term" on the page that is its subject is plainly wrong.--Iztwoz (talk) 12:02, 12 September 2019 (UTC)

text: Thank you for removing the reference to types. --Iztwoz (talk) 18:30, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Well no longer used, innit?

message: For any interested editor - on the chronic obstructive pulmonary disease talk page there is a request for comments relating to the redirect of Chronic bronchitis.--Iztwoz (talk) 14:36, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for comments 

message: Have reinstated the word hypersecretion - this is a simple enough word!  and mucus hypersecretion is the term choice of almost all studies evidenced by citations.  To use overproduction is to diminish and obscure the meaning  of hypersecretion - mucus is overproduced in colds and flu and is clearly different from the hypersecretion of chronic bronchitis - it is the hypersecretion that is responsible for the chronic productive cough. Also removed ref to Chinese consensus - this is the general view held shall add GOLD ref.  --Iztwoz (talk) 07:23, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: How is 'excessive mucus production' an improvement on 'mucus hypersecretion'?--Iztwoz (talk) 08:31, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It clearly describes what is being discussed. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:48, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Hypersecretion

message: This is a Chinese consensus and we need to state that.
Thus "COPD includes chronic bronchitis as a phenotype, includes an emphysematous phenotype, and also a third phenotype of frequent exacerbations is recognised." is not appropriate. 
Also were does the source mention "emphysematous phenotype" https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5796802/
When you use GOLD instead (which you should)  than one can remove the Chinese bit. Excessive mucus secretion is fine. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 08:14, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: How is 'excessive mucus production' an improvement on 'mucus hypersecretion'?--Iztwoz (talk) 08:31, 10 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It clearly describes what is being discussed. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:48, 11 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Text

message: The polish article is written and not connected: https://pl.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ostre_zapalenie_oskrzelik%C3%B3w ShalokShalom (talk) 13:26, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: ShalokShalom, I am not sure how Zapalenie oskrzeli gets linked to Bronchitis. I went to the "edit languages" link, but by clicking edit I could only edit badges! It may be an automated process which is not working right. Suggest you ask at the WP:Help desk.--Quisqualis (talk) 18:07, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: ShalokShalom, Bronchiolitis is the English article you want. It has a Polish version in the languages list.--Quisqualis (talk) 21:40, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It has no polish version in my language list ShalokShalom (talk)  — Preceding undated comment added 00:34, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Zapalenie oskrzeli is the Polish version I see in the list at Bronchiolitis, ShalokShalom. See the help desk if you continue not to find the link to the Polish article.--Quisqualis (talk) 00:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I meant on this page, Bronchitis. Do you see a version of it in Polish?  ShalokShalom (talk) 14:29, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: No Polish version listed on that page.--Quisqualis (talk) 16:48, 25 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polish Article 

message: Bdndndhdhdhjejehrjdjdjrjrjjrjrn 100.14.28.102 (talk) 06:53, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bronchitis’s 

message: My nephew is currently struggling with bronchitis. I’ve researched, and smoking is a likely contributor.  He smoked for a short time and has since been using the artificial smoke device. Is this an issue with his current condition? 2603:7081:2401:AB69:B872:7E41:7D89:A0DB (talk) 06:30, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bronchitis 

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