Talk:Erotic asphyxiation

message: This article is clearly about self-asphyxiation. As far as I can tell, there is not a single mention of acts involving more than one person. The article should be renamed or extensively re-written to remove this assumption. At least having a section that explains this distinction would be an improvement.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.204.187.246 (talk) 14:51, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conflation with auto-erotic asphyxiation 

message: I'm a bit unsettled by photos related to sexuality that were clearly created by a Wikipedia editor. Haven't there been issues in the past of "self-made" visual content featuring editors' genitals and such? I'm concerned about matters of both ethics and taste.
Wouldn't it be more appropriate if images of "delicate" subjects (such as sexual activities) came from some sort of... "official" source, like a textbook or crime scene photo? Rather than from some Wikipedian who set up a camera in his bedroom? Minetruly (talk) 22:53, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editor-created images 

message: As a breath play practitioner and someone who has researched and written on the subject in various Internet groups as well as having done 'safer breathplay' outreach and talks I'm very dissatisfied with this article, particularly in the way autoerotic asphyxiation is mixed into this piece.
I propose creating a separate page for autoerotic asphyxiation as the dangers there are immeasurably higher than in partnered breath play and I would be happy to work with others on both improving this page and creating an autoerotic asphyxiation page. Peterboots (talk) 21:17, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Poor quality of the page

message: I think this was the central plot device to one of Dick Francis's novels... not sure which one though. Anyone know? - Ta bu shi da yu 13:08, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Francis 

message: ...a 2002 episode of the HBO television series Six Feet Under, the US version of Queer as Folk,...
Isnt the american version of Queer as Folk, Queer as Folk (US TV series) ?
JonEastham 08:40, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is. Best name (talk) 21:00, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Media references 

message: Since things in the throat such as the adam's apple get larger at the same time private parts are increasing in size (during puberty), is it possible some of the same or closely related hormones are involved? If so, couldn't whatever structures and types of nerve endings that are responsible for feelings of sexual pleasure exist in the neck region as well as the genital region?Rich 11:02, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Question: possible cause of pleasure in erotic asphyxiation?

message: I've just added these two words to the introductory sentence of this article again.  I think it is a rather important aspect of this activity that doing it can cause someone to stop living, and it is certainly what the activity is infamous for.  For those reasons I think it should stay in. Robotman1974 22:59, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Potentially lethal

message: The quality of this article is poor. It has a clear POV. One example is the phrase: "those who think flirting with death in sex is healthy." The opinion of the writer is self-evident. The phrase assumes that erotic asphyxiation is a mental issue, rather than a practice based on physiological mechanisms. There is no mention of these mechanisms. The restriction of oxygen to the brain causes hypoxia, which people who enjoy erotic asphyxiation claim heightens the sensations of sex. The risks of erotic asphyxiation are overstated, although this is difficult to discern, because there are no statistics cited. In auto-erotic asphyxiation a person sometimes simply holds his/her breath during masturbation or sex.203.196.42.71 04:55, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are few psychological experts, if any, who do not feel that this is a mental disorder since it puts the practitioner at risk.  An analogy would be someone who insisted on having sex with a lot of people without a condom because it feels better, even with people they know may have a disease.  The risks are too high to one's long term survival, simply for a moment of pleasure, that there currently aren't any serious experts who do not see it as a form of Russian Roulette, and thus a disorder.  I removed the tag at the top.  David Shankbone 01:21, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmmm... but is mountain climbing or hand-gliding a mental disease? Those activities are quite risky too... I'm not trying to minimize the risk of this practice, just pointing out that this argument isn't really consistent Observer31 (talk) 14:30, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Poor overall quality

message: Citation 2, pertaining to the frequency of deaths due to autoerotic asphyxiation, contains no verifiable information. The source MyFolsom.com is not as reputable as the citation suggests. The information, supposedly from the FBI, is illusory. I could only find a PubMed article suggesting 250 deaths per year in the US, not 1000. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6666761
--Anoid (talk) 21:29, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Questionable or irrelevant citation

message: I've removed the following from the article:-
::The mysterious 1998 death of heavy metal guitarist Hideto Matsumoto, while officially determined to be a suicide, has been speculated to have been an accident, possibly as a result of auto-erotic asphyxiation.
There is no mention of this in the main article on this guy, in fact his friends' speculation about back massage is described (and fully referenced).  No reference is given, so the quality of any source (should one exist) cannot be checked. --Simon Speed (talk) 12:52, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[hide (musician)|Hideto Matsumoto]] 

message: I've removed the link to an "article" on a site called "Devus".  External links are supposed to provide the reader with additional information of one sort or another.  This has a small portion of what is already on the Wikipedia article with a few unsourced words downplaying the risks. --Simon Speed (talk) 12:59, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Devus link 

message: I just added an edit, with a fact tag, because I could not find a link (yet). I used to do contract work in the Royal Adelaide Hospital and they have an entire room devoted to the subject. The walls are covered in photographs of victims with case notes. Many involve cases incorrectly diagnosed as murder and give information on what could be observed at the scene to correct the diagnosis etc. Quite a few of the cases lacked strong evidence of the autoerotic component and would easily have led to a conviction so I can see why such training is neccessary.  A sign near the door advises that the room has been set up for doctors to familiarise themselves with the condition to avoid incorrect diagnoses. I'm sure this hospital is not alone in doing this. If other editors could help find a ref it would be great. Wayne (talk) 07:25, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit with tag 

message: The March 28, 2007 New York Times reference to a boy who played the "choking game" for a "rush" is not an example of autoerotic asphyxiation. There is a separate page for the choking game, and a rush is not sexual (autoerotic).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dangrossman (talk • contribs) 08:02, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrectly categorized example 

message: This article was protected on June 9, 2009. This article has been locked from "unregistered" edits for almost 4 months.  Kick it loose and see what happens. (I put "unregistered" in quotation marks since Wikipedia says registered users are more anonymous. Ah-yuh.) 71.234.215.133 (talk) 08:16, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kick it loose 

message: '... 250 to 1000 deaths per year in the United States. Cases have also been reported in Scandinavia and in Germany'
This implies that it is an unusual occurrence in countries other than the US, Scandanavia and Germany - is this the case? If not then it should be reworded. --86.11.4.28 (talk) 00:33, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewording? 

message: Kristian Digby, the presenter of a popular BBC television program was found dead in his apartment apparently died after a solo sex game went wrong, aka: auto-erotic asphyxiation.
The source and the photo of the Digby can be found here:
I couldn't update the main article so for those whom are able to do so, please update it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Firas SG (talk • contribs) 13:09, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This has not been announced following the post mortem (which Sky News report as being "inconclusive" ).  Until an official statement is released, all reports are tabloid speculation and so neither verifiable nor reliable.  We'll can update Digby's article (and this one, if necessary) in due course – there's no rush.  matt (talk) 17:34, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Case of Accidental Death due to Erotic asphyxiation 

message: There has been no official verdict that his death was Erotic Asphyxiation, but suicide.  There is speculation by the late Paula Yates, but I don't see that speculation about how somebody might have died, as opposed to a coroner's report, would justify placing anybody on this page as an example of somebody who died this way. Mish (talk) 16:31, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hutchens 

message: Here's a reference for the rescue mechanism sentence: http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=51776  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.203.72.184 (talk) 00:52, 5 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rescue mechanism 

message: Please remove:
Author George Shuman describes the effect as such "When the brain is deprived of oxygen, it induces a lucid, semi-hallucinogenic state called hypoxia. Combined with orgasm, the rush is said to be no less powerful than cocaine, and highly addictive".[3] People could be too fascinated and try it out. DangerousMary-rose curio (talk) 20:33, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Effects 

message: Under ===Popular culture=== add
* Erotic asphyxiation plays a big part in the novel Rising Sun by Michael Crighton.
68.101.167.167 (talk) 04:40, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: for what its worth. Monkeymanman (talk) 15:08, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 68.101.167.167, 12 July 2011 

message: Under Popular Culture:
"In episode four of the third season of The X Files (Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose) the clairvoyant Bruckman character (played by Peter Boyle) predicts that FBI agent Fox Mulder (played by David Duchovny) will die from autoerotic asphyxiation."
Should read:
"In episode four of the third season of The X Files (Clyde Bruckman's Final Repose) the clairvoyant Bruckman character (played by Peter Boyle) makes a cryptic statement to FBI agent Fox Mulder (played by David Duchovny) that autoerotic asphyxiation is undignified, but not a bad way to die.  The end of the episode reveals that Bruckman himself dies of this cause."
99.46.93.221 (talk) 09:05, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the whole section "in pop culture" since everything is unsourced and by WP:POPCULTURE. Regards, mabdul 17:15, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from , 22 October 2011 

message: The feeling of auto-asphyxiation is established after regaining consciousness from a degree of unconsciousness.  Thus getting the oxygen back into the body creates the actual emotional heightened state.  To not get oxygen over a series of time just builds up to when you eventually release the bondage.  A better explanation is that the person is drunk.  There is no need to explain it with any more serious drugs.  To have sex after consuming too much alchohol is the actual auto-asphyxiation experience.  I imagine it is predominated with people that have restrictions on consuming alchohol.  Such as underage, mormons and so on.
68.110.7.81 (talk) 17:34, 23 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You have not actually said what should be changed, and you have not given any reliable sources - therefore, I cannot fulfil this edit request, sorry.  Chzz  ►  06:23, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from , 23 October 2011 

message: The sentence "Commonly, teenagers are the ones most likely to commit suicide, so in some cases autoerotic asphyxiation may be falsely ruled as suicide.[11]" is poorly phrased and could use cleanup.
71.198.81.105 (talk) 20:18, 10 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Thanks. It looks like a bungled attempt at paraphrasing the source. Rephrased now. --Stfg (talk) 12:56, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 10 October 2013 

message: I've heard of erotic asphyxiation dozens of time, but never have I heard of people who enjoy this activity being called "gaspers." Does something like this really belong in the second sentence of the article, or in the article at all? Obviously, if this is actually a common phrase I just haven't heard of, by all means, let it stay, but otherwise I don't see how it adds much to the article. 67.91.166.39 (talk) 22:02, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Gasper" 

message: dusk blackman 17:10, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: as you have not requested a change.If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 17:18, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 30 December 2014 

message: :I have a question to idea of "breathplay". Is it possible to not choke throat, but to wrap tightly a reinforced belt or a sleek rope around ribs an have fun breathing only with help of diaphragm? it's not fully asphyxion, but if it's true, I belive it should included in "techincs" section.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.247.134.182 (talk) 11:56, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-asphyxion 

message: In the 1972 film The Ruling Class (film)
, the opening scene features the death from accidental asphyxiation of Ralph Gurney, the 13th Earl of Gurney. Seems pretty clear that he was doing it for sexual gratification.
¶  I cannot provide the date or other details, but in the cable series OZ (about a brutal American prison), one prisoner manages to rid himself of a rapacious bully of a cellmate by inducing him to try erotic asphyxiation - and letting him hang himself. Sussmanbern (talk) 16:03, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  fiction--famous movie left out 

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message: In the "In fiction" section, add a reference to S02E06 of BoJack Horseman, "Higher Love".
Suggested content : The entire theme of the episode "Higher Love" of BoJack Horseman revolves comically around autoerotic asphyxiation.
Reference : https://tv.avclub.com/bojack-horseman-higher-love-1798184413 Anuvabchhotray (talk) 20:46, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 February 2018 

message: Add to the "In fiction" list: In YouTubeRED's series "Ghostmates, this was Ed's falsely presumed cause of death. 83.24.80.163 (talk) 11:37, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Does not appear to be a notable series, have secondary sources discussed this? – Thjarkur (talk) 12:32, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 23 February 2020 

message: Please add on to list of FICTION WORKS: 
"In "Redemption the Advent" a science fiction novel, an ethereal being from a parallel universe conjoins with terrestrials in a symbiotic love triangle. 197.83.247.100 (talk) 20:58, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done, the book is not notable and does not have a Wikipedia article. See WP:COI. – Thjarkur (talk) 21:15, 15 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 March 2020 

message: In the  "In fiction" section, it uses the example of D'Angelo Barksdale and says he was set up to look like autoerotic asphyxiation. This is not the case. On the TV show, D'Angelo Barkdale's death is intentionally set up to look like a suicide by hanging, not autoerotic asphyxiation. 71.192.173.14 (talk) 10:56, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Done!  GoingBatty (talk) 15:42, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 June 2020 

message: 68.193.175.208 (talk) 14:42, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: I don't really see how that's relevant to this article. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 19:17, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 27 March 2021 

message: In season 10 episode 3, "Screams of Silence: The Story of Brenda Q", Glenn Quagmire ends up in a Coma from autoerotic asphyxiation, but manages to wake up. He's actually become used to it that it helps him in faking his death to kill his sister's abusive boyfriend.
: Not done: I don't really see how that's relevant to this article. ƒirefly ( t · c ) 19:17, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Family Guy

message: Delete the entire thing. Auto-erotic asphyxiation and all. 2600:6C54:4500:19E3:B093:BA6A:89E6:29A (talk) 14:56, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done. Appears to be notable, and a deletion request would fail, certainly without a good reason given for deletion. --Mvqr (talk) 16:21, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 December 2022 

message: I think it would be valuable to add a section on this. Refer to this NYT article:
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/12/opinion/choking-teen-sex-brain-damage.html Paulmlieberman (talk) 19:51, 12 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Troubling trend in teenage sex