Talk:Mind (The Culture)

message: In the article it is mentioned that the identification of a Mind with the ship/orbital of which it is the Mind leads to "an interesting take on dualism".  This is incorrect.  Dualism is a positions that puts mind and matter in different ontological categories.  This is not suggested by the example.  The Mind and the ship/orbiatal are fundamentally the same kind of thing: this is a robustly physical universe.  At most what is suggested is a commitment to temporary or contingent identity: the Mind is the ship, but it might not have been, and if it is transferred it won't be.  But a far more reasonable interpretation is simply that when the Culture citizens identify the Mind with the ship they mean partial identity as opposed to strict identity.  I.e. that the Mind is part of the ship.  I recommend that the reference to dualism be deleted. --RossCameron 17 Nov 2004
::So I gather that the policy is to make the changes and let people put it back if it's thought wrong?  In which case I made the change that I recommended above.  If I'm doing this wrong, let me know.
::: Given the whole three minded GSV business, isn't there an excellent possibility that at least some Culture minds function at two (or more) levels with more than one identity - partly as themselves and partly as a fraction of the gestalt that is the ship-mind?  Not confident about dropping that straight into the ship-mind bit but we probably want something on the subject... 62.196.17.197 (talk) 13:26, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Identity of ships and Minds 

message: Does my paragraph on occasional morally interesting decisions my Minds seem on the money? --Evercat 4 July 2005 17:51 (UTC)
:E'en so. --Maru  (talk) Contribs 23:18, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moral of Minds 

message: I question the use of the Sleeper Service as an example of an eccentric mind. At the end of the novel the Sleeper admits to being a Culture agent, a deniable weapon of sorts.
:I think it's still a good example- very few eccentrics are protrayed, and it acts like an eccentric, so in lieu of a better example... --Maru  (talk) Contribs 18:04, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  True Eccentric? 

message: Was there not summat about gaangster class of ships in Excession (scope_creep 17:38, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classes 

message: As for now doing the merges I had proposed some time ago:
Sorry for anybody trying to follow my dozens of steps getting there. Everything should be retained, though it may have moved within the various Culture articles as I try to focus the articles and avoid unneccessary duplication. Still not done, but maybe so for the moment. MadMaxDog 05:03, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reworked

message: While merging, I have found a ship name which does not appear in the List of Culture ships yet, but I cannot enter it as I do not know which book it is from, or what its details are. Its Heavy Messing. Vandalism, or oversight? MadMaxDog 01:43, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge work - 'lost' ship names

message: I think it would be valuable to also mention how Minds come into being, i.e. are they outright created by their mothership or what? I haven't been able to tell from the article. Katana (talk) 05:35, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth/creation of a Mind