Talk:HMS Marlborough (F233)

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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Not Moved - No consensus to move in this discussion (non-admin closure)  FOARP (talk) 14:15, 13 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: HMS Marlborough (F233) →  – This is a warship formerly known as HMS Marlborough, but acquired by the Chilean Navy in 2008 and renamed Almirante Condell. Almirante Condell is her current name. I'm unable to move the page because the target page already exists as a redirect. Af1391 (talk) 02:48, 23 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Per WP:NC-SHIPS, the article title should be Chilean frigate Almirante Condell (FF-06) for ships of a navy that does not use a prefix. Llammakey (talk) 01:32, 25 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Note: WikiProject Military history has been notified of this discussion. Warm Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 15:33, 3 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Note: WikiProject Ships has been notified of this discussion. Warm Regards, ZI Jony (Talk) 15:33, 3 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: That's an interesting perspective - in my comparatively short time here I have seen the NC-SHIPS as an attempt to apply the policy in WP:CRITERIA to ship articles, bearing in mind that ships (particularly merchant ships) frequently change names for various reasons, and may not even trade under some.  At a quick glance that part of NC-SHIPS seems to have been developed somewhat earlier than the introduction of name-change provisions in WP-NC. Whether the  mismatch you highlight was discussed or resolved back then I have no idea - and here is not the place to develop that. As it happens, in a completely different context, I opened a thread on this aspect of WP:SHIPNAME at WikiProject Ships yesterday. Perhaps you would bring you thoughts there, or in a new thread? - Davidships (talk) 02:38, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why name it per hull number, when launch or ownership year is so explanatory. Broichmore (talk) 13:00, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  I was just expanding on their initial move suggestion. Llammakey (talk) 16:48, 4 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 25 January 2024 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 12:36, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you amend your proposal to remove the italics in the Chilean names? The italics are not needed. Thank you. Llammakey (talk) 12:45, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  Furthermore, can you amend your proposal to eliminate the hull number after Admiral Cochrane. The ship does not need disambiguation as it is the only ship named "Chilean frigate Admiral Cochrane". Thank you. Llammakey (talk) 13:00, 3 March 2024 (UTC)

text: As noted previously the policy-based arguments for these three proposed moves do have substance, which is, I thnk, basically saying that when a warship is commissoned into a different navy, it is moved to its new name, as in these three cases. And later on, when the ship has gone out of service, the article naming may be reconsidered in the light of broader policy considerations/guidance. I can see that that may work for almost all naval transferd.  But I am concerned that a more flexible approach may be needed for merchant ships (though that is not for discussion here). - Davidships (talk) 00:08, 4 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 2 March 2024