Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Disaster management/Naming

message: Hi, I though about starting articles about the only airliner accidents in Finland, at     Mariehamn and Koivulahti. Apparently the naming convention is "airline" flight *. One of the confusing part is that Finnair was during those days called Aero O/Y. O/Y here (Osakeyhtiö, today shortened Oy, not O/Y) means Ltd. Is this supposed to be included in the title? I don't think Lufthansa is called in those as Lufthansa AG. On the other hand, Aero is just too common name, and not even clear that it is an airline company. 
The other thing is, Finnair still uses same route numbers, route number AY311 still flies eventhough Aero Flight 311 crashed at Koivulahti in 1961. It's okay though because back then Finnair was under the other name? Those sources call it a Finnair flight, but it should be here under the name which the airline operated back then? --Pudeo (Talk) 21:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm something of a project specialist on aviation accidents and incidents. The way I see it, the article should be at Aero Flight 311 with a note to say that Aero is now Finnair and that the route designation still exists with the same company. I'll  arrange for some other  air crash people to come contribute to this discusion. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)  (Contribs) 06:24, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I also think you should title the article as "Aero Flight 311". We can then make a re-direct so that if a person searches for "Finnair Flight 311" they will be taken to the proper page. I wouldn't include O/Y or Ltd. in the article title; it seems that we are using the most common usage for airlines (example: Pan Am Flight 103 as opposed to "Pan American World Airways Flight 103") Lipsticked Pig 07:24, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok thanks, seems fine. I have made the article with the name Aero Flight 311 then. I'm making the redirects now too. PS. Feel very free to fix the grammar and airliner -related vocalbulary as they're not my strongest parts. ;) --Pudeo (Talk) 13:32, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I'll try to look over it soon, but I promise nothing because I'm busy in real world. Still, things are just cooling off, I should be free by the weekend! ;-) Blood Red Sandman (Talk)  (Contribs) 16:25, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I third the motion.... AKRadeckiSpeaketh 17:53, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming: "Flight *" 

message: I notice:
"A naming convention for such articles is also definitely required. It has been decided that all articles concerning individual disasters should be <<year>> <<place>> <<event>>. To illustrate the point with an example, the article October 11, 2006 New York City plane crash was recently renamed to 2006 New York City plane crash"
If there is only one notable event of the given name, i.e. the Our Lady of the Angels school fire, then shouldn't the year be omitted? The school fire is the only notable fire that occurred in that school, and the year is not often included when the disaster is mentioned (i.e. people do not say the 1958 Our Lady of the Angels school fire) - Why not give exceptions for cases like OLA? WhisperToMe 04:41, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It goes on to list exceptions, such as where it is apropriate to have a particular building or small company in the name - a school fire is a good example of this. That said, we should clarify the exceptions so people understand better things like the disaster you're using as an example, since we're currently relying on far too much being inferred with really quite vague guidlines. A rewrite is what's in order here, IMO. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)  (Contribs) 15:57, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion for changing a guideline 

message: Please feel free to chime in at Talk:Coalinga, California earthquake on the name of the artilce. Bebestbe (talk) 23:24, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Talk:Coalinga, California earthquake

message: I support this proposed naming convention for the reasons I describe in Talk:2021 Boulder County fire. This article's discussion helps highlight the two most important features of this naming convention that make it superior to other naming conventions, which are (1) to guarantee a unique page title for disaster events and (2) it's more clear to an international audience what the article is about at a glance. Any additional assistance with supporting this naming convention on this article would be appreciated. Codered999 (talk) 13:14, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Talk:2021 Boulder County fire