Talk:Finswimming

message: Firstly, ‘History’ was recently revised to remove unverifiable content and replace it with content that reflected what available sources said about the sport’s origins.  Secondly, Content re the Great Britain and the United States has been removed, revised and placed in two new articles - Finswimming in the United Kingdom and Finswimming in the United States.  This is an appropriate action on the basis of the low ranking of these countries in international competition (i.e. as of 2013, the UK appears to have one swimmer in the world ranking while the USA has no ranked swimmers) and on the basis of the article having a global focus.  Thirdly, content concerning ‘Distribution’ also has been deleted on the basis that the section entitled ‘Governing body’ lists which countries are actually involved in finswimming via their affiliation to CMAS.  Finally, the section has been renamed ‘Origins and history’.  Cowdy001 (talk) 04:54, 17 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision of section entitled ‘History and Distribution 

message: The following content has been removed from the body of the article because it is not supported by any citations except for one item of Hungarian origin (which has not been yet located) and because it is redundant in the contemporary content; however it may be of value for the basis of a historical article when reliable sources are found:
===Distances===
In many countries there are races over other distances (especially in open water finswimming; often dictated by a historical racing course - across a bay, for example). In the United States of America there are events in 25 yard pools, including:
*Surface: 25, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000, 1650; 4 × 50, 4 × 100, and 4 × 200 relays (yards)
*Apnea: 25, 50; 200 relay (yards)
*Immersion: 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 (yards)
In many countries, additional distances are raced in "short course" programmes (25 metre (length) swimming pools) or are added to their "long course" (50 metre (length) swimming pool) programmes; these often include:
*Surface: 25; 4 × 50 relay (metres)
*Apnea: 25; 4 × 50 relay (metres)
In many countries that historically used imperial units, there are many, often older pools that were built to match fractions of a mile (usually 27.5, 36 or 55 yards). In these pools, there are often some unusual distance events, such as 55 or 73 yards surface. This can cause some complications in converting times (110 yards = 100.584 metres).
Historically, the distance of 1,850 metres (approximately 1 nautical mile) was raced at international events (an official World Record still stands). Other distances were also raced, including:  
*Immersion: 1,000 (metres)
*Apnea: 40 (metres)
Source: Ludvigh, Z., Veress, A. & J. Szabó (1999), A Magyar Búvársport Kézikönyve. Kiadja a Sportsline Kft, Budapest, Hungary.
 Cowdy001 (talk) 03:28, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal & archiving of 'Distances' section 

message: In many countries there are races over other distances (especially in open water finswimming; often dictated by a historical racing course - across a bay, for example). In the United States of America there are events in 25 yard pools, including:
*Surface: 25, 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000, 1650; 4 × 50, 4 × 100, and 4 × 200 relays (yards)
*Apnea: 25, 50; 200 relay (yards)
*Immersion: 50, 100, 200, 500, 1000 (yards)
In many countries, additional distances are raced in "short course" programmes (25 metre (length) swimming pools) or are added to their "long course" (50 metre (length) swimming pool) programmes; these often include:
*Surface: 25; 4 × 50 relay (metres)
*Apnea: 25; 4 × 50 relay (metres)
In many countries that historically used imperial units, there are many, often older pools that were built to match fractions of a mile (usually 27.5, 36 or 55 yards). In these pools, there are often some unusual distance events, such as 55 or 73 yards surface. This can cause some complications in converting times (110 yards = 100.584 metres).
Historically, the distance of 1,850 metres (approximately 1 nautical mile) was raced at international events (an official World Record still stands). Other distances were also raced, including:  
*Immersion: 1,000 (metres)
*Apnea: 40 (metres)
Source: Ludvigh, Z., Veress, A. & J. Szabó (1999), A Magyar Búvársport Kézikönyve. Kiadja a Sportsline Kft, Budapest, Hungary.
</blockquote> Cowdy001 (talk) 03:28, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Distances

message: The '0.7 set nominee|Olympic events' template has been removed because of finswiming has not yet appeared at an Olympic games despite its international federation (i.e CMAS) being recognised by the International Olympic Committee. Refer Underwater sports at the Olympic Games for more information. Cowdy001 (talk) 06:07, 25 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of '0.7 set nominee|Olympic events' template 

message: Firstly, I have placed a  'multiple issues' template on this section because its content of this section was transferred without any substantial change from a separate heading  that also tagged as having 'multiple issues'.  The content of this section and its source does tend to read as being an editor's personal point of view.  Secondly, I have the following comments re 'Future direction' that may be useful in developing this section of the article.  A relatively recent review of what 'reliable' material that can be found (mainly online) about the administration of finswimming suggests that the 'future direction' always has been the goal of achieving status as an olympic sport.  Recent evidence of this is the demonstration of the sport at  the 2013 Summer Universiade.  Olympic sport status is considered to be particularly important because of the flow-on recognition at national level. I have read two articles by Chinese swimmers who are concerned that the lack of Olympic sport status will adversely affect the sport's growth in China as it will not attract government funding or the interest of potential competitors.  Cowdy001 (talk) 01:19, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the section as it was because it was a plain case of WP:CRYSTALBALL. Some of the stuff you mention here seems okay, but I'm unsure if it warrants a separate section. Ashanda (talk) 12:38, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing out WP:CRYSTALBALL. By the way, I did not create the section.  The content re China that I mentioned would be used in an article about finswimming in China if anyone is interested.  Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 06:17, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future direction 

message: "Category:Underwater diving procedures" has been removed as the other articles in this category are about procedural matters while this article is about a sport.  Regards Cowdy001 (talk) 10:18, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
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message: FS abbreviation is sometimes used (maybe incorrectly). But for what? 213.149.62.25 (talk) 13:19, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
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message: , By whom is finswimming in general classified as an underwater sport? It is not clear from the article. Cheers, · · · Peter Southwood (talk): 17:56, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see here and here. Jeff in CA (talk) 18:15, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classification as an underwater sport