Talk:Appalachia

message: As the source of the term from a Muscogean language is widely accepted, and "another hypothesis" in the Etymology section that it is derived from the European "appellation" is unsourced, I have removed that sentence with that highly doubtful claim. If someone can source it, by all means put it back in.  Dwalls 21:22, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of term  "Appalachia"

message: I was wondering why Barbara Kingsolver gets a mention under the "Popular Culture" heading but not under "Literature".  She has a substantial literary reputations and, I believe, she grew up in eastern Kentucky.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.145.40.44 (talk) 00:09, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Barbara Kingsolver

message: I recall hearing about it from a friend from Ellijay, Georgia a rural small town turning into an exurb of Atlanta, who knew about some of the proud yet struggling Appalachian peoples are fiddling with the idea of regional secession to make Appalachia an independent nation. There have been county and state secession plans in the region, due to the great socioeconomic and cultural differences between Appalachian people and newcomers moved into certain towns or cities. I didn't find anything on the google and yahoo search engines about the movement, must be a tongue-in-cheek humor on how Appalachia is a self-autonomous culture of its own. + 71.102.7.77 (talk) 03:53, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never heard of it.  Bms4880 (talk) 18:23, 31 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Even "tongue-in-cheek humor" would require a reliable source (demonstrating that it's well-known) to see how it might fit into this topic Tedickey (talk) 19:21, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Appalachia Independence Movement

message: What was the point of moving this article to "Appalachia (region)"?  Why was there no discussion on this? Bms4880 (talk) 13:23, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know. I can't think of anything else named Appalachia. --Guerillero | My Talk 20:26, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Article move

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was: Move per request. (Full disclosure: I'm closing this early, and I participated in the discussion. However, there was strong and unanimous support for this, and by rights I think it could have been handled as an uncontroversial move. Orlady (talk) 02:20, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Support I support the move because to my knowledge there is nothing else named Appalachia. I think the policy on this is WP:PRECISION--Guerillero | My Talk 20:54, 27 August 2010 (UTC)

text: SupportWhat else is it if not a region?  Titles are not for article text, only topic identification.  For example, the title White House (President's residence in Washington, D.C.) is just starting the article in the title.  No need there, or here.  Ocaasi (talk) 02:11, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

text: Of course! - The move from Appalachia to Appalachia (region) was a mistake that needs to be reversed. The region is clearly the primary topic for "Appalachia". --Orlady (talk) 02:33, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

text: Yep I didn't understand the move; no reason was given as far as I can tell. Pfly (talk) 02:49, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

text: Support  No previous discussion; no ascertainable point to previous move.  Dwalls (talk) 13:01, 28 August 2010 (UTC)

text: Definitely Support  Appalachia (region) is redundant as there is no other "Appalachia" to confuse it with, and no ambiguity.  Eastcote (talk) 20:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

text: Strongest possible support per all of the above. Willking1979 (talk) 20:14, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

text: agree. "keep it simple"  is good advice for an encyclopedia. Rjensen (talk) 22:09, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

text: Support Isn't this ready for a WP:SNOW close? --JaGatalk 09:36, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Most likely however it has only 2 more days left so it looks easier to just let it expire --Guerillero | My Talk 22:08, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Plus, unless I am mistaken, it will require an admin to do the actual move. Pfly (talk) 01:42, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: Once again, the article has been moved to Appalachia (Region), but now a new article has been created for Appalachia, describing it as a land area in the Mesazoic era.  The consensus was to retain Appalachia for the present day area in the United States, and I, for one, do not appreciate the hostile takeover.  Most people, 99 of 100, would be looking for the modern day Appalachia and have never heard of Mesazoic Appalachia.  The primary "Appalachia" article should be the modern area, with disambiguation to the Mesazoic area.  And as always, DISCUSSION before major changes like this should be the order of the day.  Eastcote (talk) 19:50, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Bless you, Orlady.  If I'd known how, I'd've done what you did.  Eastcote (talk) 19:56, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Only Wikipedia administrators can do what I (and Shubinator) did. And now the pages are protected, so that only administrators can move them. --Orlady (talk) 00:00, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move (again)

message: There is no mention of Cumberland Gap National Historical Park here, and there should be. Mari 21:09, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern Appalachia 

message: Added it to the external links, saw the notation to add it to talk page as well, its the congressional definition so I'd be curious if any editor sees it as not encyclopedic.  Thanks.  Marketdiamond (talk) 11:08, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added 1965 Congressional definition

message: I happen to reside in Boone, NC. 
I noticed that in the major cities list, Asheville is included, but Winston-Salem is not. I wouldn't argue that Winston-Salem is culturally in Appalachia or not - that would be difficult to determine. Winston-Salem does bear much influence of Appalachian music (for example, on WFDD). However, it is certainly in the Appalachian Regional Commission charter boundary (Forsyth County is listed here), and it is more than twice the size of Asheville. I would definitely argue that Roanoke, VA is culturally Appalachian, although it technically lies outside the ARC boundary. It is about the same size as Asheville. Charleston, WV is a state capitol... but it isn't listed.
What exactly makes a city "major" enough and Appalachian enough to be included on this list?
--Mm35173 (talk) 22:32, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Major cities list in first paragraph

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message: I note that the 1987 movie Matewan isn't included. Neither is the area history of the Matewan coal strike and the massacre, which the movie is based on. I don't really know enough about it to add it to this section. I do believe, though, that there are Wiki entries on both. Mari Adkins 06:20, 24 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular Culture 

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message: Appalachia:
Population and Geography
The claims in the first paragraph are mutually contradictory. It states that the region "stretches from the Southern Tier of New York State to northern Alabama and Georgia" but then states that "Appalachia [sic; no quotation marks] typically refers only to the cultural region of the central and southern portions of the range, from the Blue Ridge Mountains of Virginia southwest to the Great Smoky Mountains". But it then goes on to state that "In 2019, the region was home to an estimated 25.7 million people, of which roughly 81% are white". The problem is that this population figure comes from the original, ARC-specified region (New York through Mississippi) not from the smaller, supposedly "typical" range of Virginia through to the Little Tennessee River, whose total population would be FAR smaller. The article goes on at several points to confuse and arbitrarily mix these two definitions.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ManifoldSky (talk • contribs) 17:38, 3 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  General Feedback 

message: Greetings,
I am working on a story for the outlet 100 Days in Appalachia about Appalachia Wiki editors on Wikipedia. I would like to extend an invitation to the editors of the Appalachia Wiki to participate in an interview for my story. If you would be interested, please let me know.
Writerinappalachia (talk) 15:31, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Story on Appalachia Wiki Editors 

message: The section in question seems to exclusively promote a single point of view, which acknowledges that it is not even the predominant point of view. Wikipedia articles should not be for promoting single-opinion agendas. Jaysbro (talk) 01:11, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I've removed two paragraphs for now, one which seemed to be original research, and the last paragraph, which was completely uncited. Probably the whole section should be removed unless other sources and views are added... Skyerise (talk) 18:14, 28 November 2022 (UTC)

text: And I removed the rest of it, as it seems whoever added it is no longer around to fix it. Skyerise (talk) 13:25, 7 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV issue in the "Political History since 1964" section