Talk:Cat play and toys

message: I guess we need some, of the toys. I dont have any at the mo...
Tabby (talk) 03:41, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not a bad idea, but I would recommend focusing on adding references first. —Viriditas | Talk 04:09, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Adding pics now. —Viriditas | Talk 20:30, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pics 

message: This article reads less encyclopedia and more Cat Fancy Magazine. 71.192.54.222 (talk) 22:56, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Imported to en.wb and prodded. – Mike.lifeguard | @en.wb 15:07, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Encyclopedic 

message: A bowl containing fish can capture a cat's attention, but there is no play opportunity.
:I'm pretty sure that cats can turn this into a play opportunity, real quick.  Should this be removed? —Viriditas | Talk 20:55, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A fish bowl is slightly different than a fish tank, and in my experience, cats will "fish" with their paws.  I've known cats who could even open tank lids and pull fish out with one paw while keeping the lid open with the other.  I'm fairly certain this is a play opportunity, but not one we would recommend.  —Viriditas | Talk 09:35, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fish bowl

message: Searching for refs is proving excessively slow. Anyone got any clever ideas for how to get more useufl returns than just googling the key words?
Nice to see people chipping in and improving the article.
Tabby (talk) 05:06, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refs 

message: I've Been bold and removed half this article - it's not a manual on how to play with your cat any more than Cat is a manual on how to take care of one. This is an encyclopedia article about the nature of cat play - can we expand on the interesting and relevant sections we left? I'd love to see more about why cats play, what excites them, what role it plays in their development, et cetera, from a psychological and biological point of view. Reviewing cat toys just doesn't cut it. Kuronue | Talk 16:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP:NOT#MANUAL 

message: What might work here is to look at natural cat behavior and environment and then group toys and how they imitate that.  (BTW your fishbowl imitates cats waiting in front of a mouse-hole or near a body of water till prey comes within convenient reach. Some people entertain their indoor cat by cutting a hole into their baseboard and drywall.)   Some wild cats fish and so do some domesticated cats.  Many domesticated cats imitate the movement of flinging a fish out of the water with toys.  A list of toys is problematic because they are products s.o. makes money off.  Just listing product names won't fly.  But describing the type of product and what features it has that attract cats and then listing a couple of examples of home-made and manufactured toys in each category might go. Remember also that products may not be universally available, types of products are.  "Mouse manufactured from rabbit fur with leather tail" everyone can go look for. "Katz Supermouse" will not be available everywhere and if the manufacturer discontinues of changes it you're in trouble.  You can look at what certain materials have in common with cats' natural environment.   OR those that don't have an  easily recognizable equivalent.  BTW Cats also play hide and seek, not just "predator games".  In nature they use cover like trees and shrubs to get close to their prey as well as to hide from bigger predators that might want to put them on the menu.  I've not had any cat yet that didn't  enjoy a good chase.    
The behavior based approach has the advantage that you can then link to all sorts of other wikipedia pages.  References for behavior and materials are also easier to generate.  Well linked pages are less likely to get tossed out.  I'd be glad to lend a hand, but right now I'm still finishing up another project.  Leave a message on my talk page if there's something specific I could help with.  I've had domesticated, feral and wild cats. (The real thing.)  I've seen quite a bit of behavior that was similar and equally stuff that totally baffled me. --Lisa4edit (talk) 05:27, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion 

message: Cats, unlike Humans, have the uncanny ability to listen when we have problems, or at least, they appear so. If only Humans had such simple inteligence. -R. Lynn, 12 years old
I moved this from the main page. Viriditas (talk) 10:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cat quotes 

message: I think it would improve the "cat toys" aspect of the article if the scratching post article were merged here. I don't think the scratching post article is necessary (wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a dictionary), and I think it would be best if that page were to become to become a redirect to this article. Kpstewart (talk) 07:06, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see why not.  Sounds like a good idea to me. Viriditas (talk) 09:19, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

text: The thing is, you can make that same argument about all of the "toys" in this article.  My cat's favorite toy is a bowl of fresh grass that I grow indoors.  Perhaps the merge is ok, but we need to change the name of the article? Viriditas (talk) 12:01, 5 May 2009 (UTC)

text: I agree that the title of this article should be changed. I think "Cat toys" should suffice as the fact that cat toys exist presupposes that cats play. Kpstewart (talk) 07:43, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Add a sub-section for a scratching post. 72.222.154.92 (talk) 20:57, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Scratching post 

message: How does the writer know whether catnip produces a euphoric high?  Cat neurochemistry is very similar to a human's, and so the drug would likely work on humans as well as cats.  On the catnip page, it says that the catnip terpinoids mimic cat sex pheromones, which produce some kind of sexual response, rather than a high.  This should be corrected.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.169.134.251 (talk) 13:53, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catnip 

message: This article doesn't mention that a main type of cat play is based around fighting.  Kittens and adult cats will wrestle with, bite, and kick each other.  They'll also wrestle with human hands or inanimate objects (e.g., grabbing a pillow and rapidly kicking it).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.176.125 (talk) 18:27, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: So, find some reliable sources and start editing. :-)  And actually, our section on kittens does cover this anyway.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  06:10, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cat play isn't just about chasing/predation 

message: At a United States patent listing there is a nice illustration of how to play with a cat using a laser. At Copyright on the content of patents and in the context of patent prosecution there is a statement that this illustration should be in the public domain. It might be nice to use it here but I do not know the right template to use so I have not uploaded it.  Blue Rasberry (talk) 18:49, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illustration in patent 

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message: Cat exercise wheel is a gadget of dubious WP:NOTABILITY but maybe it could be merged here? --~~
: Hmm, this article is about play relating to aggression and fake hunting, not just play in general. I dunno if it would fit here. βӪᑸᙥӴ • Talk • Contribs 21:25, 3 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose: the current page Cat exercise wheel is referenced, and seems OK where it currently is. I agree with βӪᑸᙥӴ that it might not be a great fit here. Klbrain (talk) 16:11, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Closed with no merge, given the uncontested objection and no support. Klbrain (talk) 16:28, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge [[cat exercise wheel]] here? 

message: Various alarmist advice was added to this article pertaining to string, feather, etc., without any sources and in contravention of WP:NOT#ADVICE. Some material about safety of particular object types might be addable back into this article, but not in the form of advice, and not without reliable sources.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  06:09, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced safety claims