Talk:Ikurriña

message: Someone please add an image of the flag. Kent Wang 20:15, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: From eo:Ikurrina http://eo.wikipedia.org/upload/c/c5/Es-pv.gif -- Error 04:18, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: :Although this may seem artificial, the colors work because they reflect the common image of a white-washed, red-trimmed Basque house near a lush green mountain.
This seems dubious without a citation.
All I have to connect a baserri with the Ikurrina is that the Basque pavilion in Expo 92 Seville was said to be inspired by a a baserri profile in those three colors.
--Error 01:13, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Baserri profile

message: Anyone else notice that the St Pierre and Miquelon flag have the Basque flag in the corner? think it's worth mentioning? The flag:You are mistaken. It's the official one or nearly so, really. The Breton and Norman flags are also part of the local flag. It's just an homage to the islanders' ancestors. The actual official flag, anyway, is the French one.
:The unofficial flag of SPM, mind you. —Nightstallion (?) 20:48, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SAINT-PIERRE and MIQUELON flag? 

message: :(it kept being used in the Basque provinces under French sovereignty).
What was the attitude of the German occupiers? --Error 23:25, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: France

message: A Walloon regiment in French service carried in 1698-1741 a colour that was basically an ikurriña "avant la lettre". It was known, among some other titles, as the De la Vallière's Regiment or D'Escars' Regiment. It's a funny coincidence.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.142.175.22 (talk) 12:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "http://www.drapeaux.org/France/Ancien_Regime/N_Des_Cars.htm"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.142.175.22 (talk) 10:46, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A French battalion colour (1698-1741) 

message: The proper wikipedia term for this kind of saltire is CROSS OF BURGUNDY. The Arana Brothers were acquainted with the Burgundian saltires that appeared on what they took for ancient local Biscayan merchant flags, for instance that of the sailing vessels of the Consulate of Bilbao.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.142.175.22 (talk) 10:53, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ops, I made a mistake. For reasons unknown to me , the English Wikipedia article is called "Cross of Burgundy Flag" instead of just "Cross of Burgundy" , like in the Dutch Wikipedia ("Bourgondisch Kruis"), the Spanish one ("Cruz de Borgoña"), &c. Anyway, like all the late 19th-century people from Bilbao, the Arana brothers were acquainted with the idealized flag of the Consulate of Bilbao (See the discussion page of the article "Cross of Burgundy Flag", at leats the paragraphs on the "Consulate of Bilbao" and -perhaps too-  the "Basque Nationalist 'Mendigoxale' Flag").  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.142.175.22 (talk) 12:45, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Borgoña cross... 

message: Red is the color of Biscay, green is the color of Guernica's Oak and white is the color of catholicism. The St. andrew's cross represents the legendary battle between basques and iberian people fought in St. andrew's day in 867. 
http://www.rbvex.it/catalognapb.html#paba the site is in italian, sorry for my english  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.37.60.93 (talk) 10:58, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You are making a little mistake, that battle, -or at least that foundation legend- was between the Leonese -see perhaps Kingdom of León, or at least Kingdom of Asturias- under a certain Ordoño, who allegedly lost his life, and the Biscaynes under a mythical -and rather dubious- Jaun Zuria (White Lord in Basque), son of a prince from Scotland and a native girl. According to the -rather dubious- legend, he has been deprived of his legitimate rights to the the throne of Scotland by his envious relatives, so that Jaun Zuria took up shelter in Biscay, leading the Biscaynes into revolt against the "foreign invaders", and defeating them the at the "battle" of Arrigorriaga (Red Stones in Basque). There no historical evidence to support this legend (some author pointed out that Jaun Zuria might have been a Viking from Ireland -the land of the genuine Scotts- or Wales). Juan Zuria is on paper the 1st Lord-Master of Biscay, a mythical personage like King Arthur in England  -perhaps based on some Roman-Briton military commander from the time of the Saxon encroachment-  and like counts Rasura and Laínez in Castile. Sabino Arana late in the 19th century placed arbitrariously the battle of Arrigorriaga on Saint Andrew's Day (30 November). This way he could explain why there was a green saltire on the ikurriña, designed in 1894, and based on the Union Jack and on the coat of arms of Biscay.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 11:25, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: According to this version, Jaun Zuria was son to a Scottish princess instead of a prince:"http://www.euskomedia.org/aunamendi/63734"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 11:30, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Colors meaning