Talk:Belinda Stronach/Archive 4

message: I can't see any purpose in including this paragraph, so I've removed it:
:When she became a cabinet minister she was automatically made a member of the Privy Council of Canada which will allow her to travel under a special diplomatic passport under the Queen of Canada until the death of Queen Elizabeth II.
If true, this would be true of any cabinet minister, so there's no special reason to mention it here.  I see that this is a remnant of an earlier paragraph which contained some weird speculation that she defected to the Liberals for this special passport.
In any case, why on earth would the death of the sovereign matter in the slightest?  If a former cabinet minister can retain this special passport for the duration of the Queen's life, why wouldn't this privilege be automatically re-granted under her successor? --Saforrest 11:35, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks for removing that. It was bothering me, too. Cabinet ministers receive lots of stuff: cars with drivers, cell-phones, letterhead, etc. I saw no reason to make specific mention of this here. Ground Zero 12:00, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree too; danke! Samaritan 23:13, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Passport stuff 

message: One way or another we are all Stronach watchers here.  Has anyone noticed changes in Ms. Stronach lately?  Take a look at the picture at the beginning of the article compared to the one in the Move to the Liberals section.  She's different.  Did anyone see her interview with George Stoumboulopolis on CBC Newsworld's The Hour last night?  Her grasp of the relevant issues was impressive.  I will see if I can get a transcript to add something to the article. Sunray 18:47, 2005 May 20 (UTC)
:Could it be said to have been her first real political risk? Samaritan 06:02, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Stronach comes alive

message: Contrary to what's stated in 'Move to the Liberals', I don't think we can say with certainty that Stronach's defection kept the government alive.  Neither Kilgour or Cadman had made up his mind at the time of her defection (at least so far as they said publicly).
In particular, Kilgour claimed to be very unimpressed with Stronach's move and the government's complicity in it.  He ultimately voted against C-48 (i.e. with the Tories); who's to say that Stronach's defection wasn't what pushed him over the edge to vote that way?
I wouldn't bet on it, but I wouldn't say it's certainly false. --Saforrest 00:14, May 21, 2005 (UTC)
It is true to say that many political pundits and observers credit Stronach's move with saving the government.AndyL 01:18, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "enabled the government to survive" 

message: I'm removing the sentence "The very sudden and public end of their romantic relationship marked several firsts for Canadian media and politics, which normally avoid discussing the romantic lives of politicians." There's already a sentence about Canadian media and the private lives of public figures in "Conservative leadership race".
I can't think of first this can claim that wouldn't be very limited: for high-profile politician's breakup, Pierre and Margaret Trudeau; for "intra-caucus dating where they stopped dating", Shelley Martel and Peter Kormos; heck, for "high-profile intra-caucus relationship meets floor-crossing amid controversy", Gordon Wilson and Judi Tyabji... But I could be missing something. Samaritan 06:43, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Firsts for Canadian media and politics' 

message: Is she proficient in French or not?  In one place it says she is, in another it says she can understand it but can't read it.  Also, there is duplication regarding other languages she speaks.  Can someone please clean this up?  Thanks. --66.117.43.150 04:34, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Languages?