Talk:Magnus Ladulås

message: Literature assigns different numerals to this ruler. (They did not use official ordinals in his time in Scandinavia.) If he is called Magnus I, there is a clear risk of confusion with his "usurper" predecessor also named Magnus. Whereas Magnus III, also used of him, is not confusing with any other monarch. (The only confusing thing may be that in that case, his grandson Magnus, who here is IV, is in some sources referred to as Magnus II. But it's not III, it is only a numeral smaller than III which is not easy to understand when a successor is in question. But, in this system, he is anyway IV.) Nicknames and such are too difficult to have correctly here, and I do not recommend their use in article name. Marrtel 20:45, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your are perfectly correct. The only acceptable number (and the only one used in Sweden) is Magnus III. Magnus I and Magnus II were both Danish princes who were recognized for short periods as King of Sweden or subtstantial enough parts thereof. It is also important to use English name versions for readability, whenever possible. In that you are also 100% correct. 217.21.225.53 (talk) 13:10, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "Referring to Magnus Ladulås as Magnus I is an invention not recognized by any Swedish historians today", it says. Is there any reference to that the III is used? As far as I know, he is always just Magnus Birgersson or Magnus Ladulås in Swedish, never with a number. It does not seem correct to add a retroactive regnal number when "translating" the name./Coffeeshivers (talk) 22:35, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: He is known as Magnus III in the English-speaking world and literature, which is more important to en.WP that what he is called in Swedish. Numerals are almost always used here, whereas not so often in Swedish for the older kings of that country. It is much easier for English readers to distinguish between rulers with numerals than that they be forced to try to figure out and learn the differences between phonetically obstructive Swedish words like like Birgersson or Ladulås. Very few know Swedish. English texts (as all others) need to be able to be read out loud, too, at times, preferably smoothly. Swedish historian Lars O. Lagerqvist, a respected expert, has established the numeral III for this king even in some of his Swedish-language works. SergeWoodzing (talk) 11:18, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  regnal number 

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Question: I have never before seen the theory that Magnus' nickname was derived from Ladislaus -- that theory sound like it originates with Monty Python or Spamalot -- I have not made an edit but I a  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jao (talk • contribs). 
:The Ladislaus theory has appeared in several books by reputable Swedish historians in the latter decades of the 20th century. It is quite legitimate. 217.21.225.53 (talk) 13:12, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ladislaus 

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message: I rolled back 2 edits introducing fantasy images to the box. The contemporary bust is more useful than they. --SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:33, 5 May 2020 (UTC)
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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover)  ASUKITE 15:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Magnus III of Sweden →  – Move per WP:COMMONNAME. I have studied some sources above (see #Regnal number 2), and most of them call him Magnus Ladulås. Some use the name Magnus Birgersson, and none use Magnus III without putting the number in parentheses. Magnus III is neither a common name, nor an official one. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 07:54, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 26 April 2024 

message: Can anyone explain why this edit does not show? SergeWoodzing (talk) 12:31, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not really sure what you mean, because the link did show, though I have now reverted that edit as it is better to leave the original URL intact along with an archived URL if the original is dead. If you want more help, change the  back into a , stop by the Teahouse, or Wikipedia's live help channel, or the help desk to ask someone for assistance. Primefac (talk) 12:55, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: My error. Sorry! --SergeWoodzing (talk) 13:39, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit does not take 

message: I addressed a similar issue as above at Magnus IV of Sweden (diff). In this case there are three possible ordinals: II, III and IV. The middle one, III, is quite rare in 20th and 21st century literature (it was more common in 19th century), but since there was a reasonable citation, I did not remove it. Note that I did not insert the Royal Court citation there. Feel free to add it if you think it belongs there. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 20:32, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magnus IV