Talk:Persecution of Muslims by Meccans

message: This is going to be fun. , what makes you think that the source from Faith Freedom International is reliable? I'm not going to suggest that you go to the RS noticeboard lest they make an example out of you. More importantly, you've been spamming dozens of articles on Islam left and right with spurious tags and then using that as grounds to get rid of content you don't like (if you thought that was clever, it's not. We're fully aware of what you've been doing, and others have noticed too) This persona of being serious about sources and citations is not coherent with the one that cites a shitty reference like Ali Sina on Islam. The guy himself even admits that he is loser that no one buys anything he says: "even Western authors have fallen into this trap". Al-Andalusi (talk) 03:23, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia expects everyone to be civil, so please be so in your discussions and edit summaries. I challenge claims on the basis of the unreliability of sources like islamicity, islamicpaths, calltomonotheism, direct hadith quotes (primary sources), and contradicting or doubtful authors. My additions to this article are merely on the basis of above discussions. I would have no concerns if someone can contribute multiple, reliable, scholarly and most importantly neutral sources claiming that this persecution was as serious as some propagandists want the ever-gullible audience to believe. If we don't have any such sources, this article is well on its way to a notability tag or an AfD/merge. Since the mainstream scholars are out to justify the Muhammad–Aisha love story and plenty of similar things, what better can we expect from them? Of course I and many others look forward to sensible refutations of Ali Sina (are there any?) but i am not sure if that is possible here. Right now, I also don't see any point in raising the most obvious contradiction about who was the first martyr: Sumayyah or Bilal? But one more thing I hope the contributors to this article will highlight with sources is that: these people were persecuted because they were monotheists and were forced to revert to polytheism. Swingoswingo (talk) 19:16, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Long rant, and no attempt to establish the reliability of Ali Sina's reference. Removed. Al-Andalusi (talk) 23:37, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
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