Talk:Barty Crouch Junior

message: There needs to be SOME sort of distinction between film and book versions. The article currently states that he has brown hair and green eyes, whereas in the book it's stated that he has 'straw blonde' hair and his eye colour isn't mentioned. --Ryttu3k 08:05, 22 September 2006 (UTC)

message: I don't understand the classification of "none, formerly Death Eater". Sirius Black isn't listed as "none, formerly Order of the Phoenix", is he?
* Fixed this. It's annoying how people treat the situation after the most recent book as if it were "present day".
I suppose one could argue that since Crouch Jr is still technically alive, but has lost all sense of self, he no longer has any loyalties.  One might contrast this with Black's situation, because the latter is dead. Dione Maddern 05:35, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Loyalty

message: I added his birth and deathdate. The deathdate is obviously from GoF, the birthdate is based on the chapter "The Pensieve", where it is said during the Death-Eater trials, that he's around 18 years old. The trials play in late 1981 and probably 1982. Doing the math, that makes his birthyear around 1963. - Sebastian
:I'm removing the deathdate, because the books make it clear that while the Dementor's Kiss is "worse than death", it isn't death. He's still alive, but has no soul. --Angr/ 12:07, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Birthdate

message: I think someone should create a scetion on this as, more than any other character, his was so radically altered. Changes in his behaviour, appearance, and in the plot all deserve mention. I think there should also be a fanart picture of crouch as described in the book, as Tennant's appearance in the film differs so radically.
Someone removed his eyes colour, whick I put blue.
His eyes are blue in the mivie.
:I expanded a very wee bit on the plot difference, but did not create a section.  -JohnRDaily 21:06, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Differences Between Film And Book

message: Why no period after Jr? BTW the movie lists him as Barty Crouch Junior (no abbreviation) and his father as Barty Crouch (no Sr or anything) 68.4.225.187 07:24, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know about American English, but in British English we don't place a stop after an abbreviation if the final letter has been retained. That means approx., but no Mrs.: and Sr, not Sr.. Michaelsanders 12:08, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jr vs Jr. 

message: Identification by his father in film is obvious, the lick of his lips which appears in the court room and previously when he is in moody's form.
Sorry, is there a point here? Faithlessthewonderboy 16:23, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I fail to see one Creamypeanutbutter 08:51, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Identification by his father in film

message: Merging this article into the one linked above would not be useful. The average description on that page is 40-60 words per character. None of the characters listed on that page are absolutely central to the plot of the books- they may all have been mentioned, however the books would have been nearly the same without their characters.  Barty Crouch Junior, however was extremely central to the plot of Goblet of Fire, and should still retain his current article.  Creamypeanutbutter 08:51, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree whole heartedly. Crouch Jr was arguably the second most important character in GoF, after HP obviously. He is absolutely integral to the plot of the novel and in no way is a minor character. Faithlessthewonderboy 21:19, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Er, I think you mean antagonist. Therequiembellishere 17:48, 1 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I just wonder who decide to suggest such a merge. In any case, he should be merged with the Minor Dark Wizards, not with Minor Characters. Maybe we can write all the things that Crouch did as Alastor Moody in the Moody article and then write a section for revelations (that the real Moody was kidnaped and captured by Crouch). The article about Barty Crouch Jr shall be merged into the Minor Dark Wizards with only some brief background information, removing the info from the film (that can be placed in the article of differences between book and film). This brief background section in Minor Dark Wizards shall contain who's his father, why he was sent to Azkaban, how he escaped, that he impersonated Moody and then received the Dementor kiss. Lord Opeth 18:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While I might not like it, I can understand the suggested merging of some characters, Narcissa Malfoy, Irma Pince, etc. But I definitely feel that Crouch Jr. is deserving of his own article. Goblet of Fire basically revolved around him, he is certainly not a minor character. faithless (speak) 00:50, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, Faithless.71.92.70.77 04:43, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're quite welcom, anonymous editor. :) faithless (speak) 05:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Re: Merging to [[Minor Harry Potter characters]]