Talk:Valérian and Laureline

message: Is there a reference in the series for the name Valérian being based on the Slavic "Walerian"? Valerian was the name of two Roman emperors, and that's a more likely source for the French given name.
Epimetreus 02:02, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mezieres stated it in an interview given in issue 12 of Dossiers de la Bande Dessinée in September 2001. Joe King 19:45, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Valérian's name? 

message: I've moved amd renamed this entry to Valerian: Spatio-Temporal Agent since this is the strap-line used for the series at the top of every Valérian album. This should also help with disambiguation. 
Joe King 15:32, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved from [[Valerian (comics)]]

message: Some content was merged from Valerian and Laureline. Nabla 22:19, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merged from [[Valerian and Laureline]] 

message: Isn't this article about right for a Good Article review? It looks quite finished to me (as far as articles are ever finished of course). Fram 15:38, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. About right. Maybe a ComProj notice and a final wave of polish lookover before "filing for judgement"..? MURGH disc. 15:45, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can we wait another few days?  I've been looking at this article in light of the release of the latest album and want to make a few changes, tidy up the references etc.  I can submit for GA once the new version's up.  Is there a specific peer-review section for comics projects we can go to as well? Joe King 15:47, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess that's just by adding peer-review=yes into the comicsproj template and following the next steps. Go ahead and start it when you're satisfied.MURGH disc. 16:25, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree. I added the  tags myself because I found that line to be very dubious indeed (The Fifth Element owes substantially more, scriptwise, to The Incal than it does to Valérian, Moebius' unsuccessful lawsuit against Besson over the film notwithstanding) and in the absence of anything to back it up, I suggest we park it here and then put the article up for GA. — Joe King 15:20, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Good article

message: The sentence "The film [The Fifth Element] also shares a number of thematic similarities with the Valérian series such as a macho male hero who is eventually rescued from the evil plans of a figurehead by an apparently frail woman that he was supposed to protect as she proves to be more powerful" is currently the last with a 'fact tag', and it would be nice to resolve it so the push for GA review can go forth. It's a tricky source to provide for a statement that doesn't feel (to me) accurate. Sure, Laureline (hardly portrayed as "frail") does rescue Valérian when they initially meet and many times later, but the partnership of V&L is very different from the film's dynamics. I'd be surprised if some reliable publication makes a point of this, so unless someone can provide the source, I suggest we delete it. MURGH disc. 13:42, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I added the  tags myself because I found that line to be very dubious indeed (The Fifth Element owes substantially more, scriptwise, to The Incal than it does to Valérian, Moebius' unsuccessful lawsuit against Besson over the film notwithstanding) and in the absence of anything to back it up, I suggest we park it here and then put the article up for GA. — Joe King 15:20, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Remaining "cite needed"

message: I notice that the latest album L'Ordre des Pierres the strapline at the top has changed to Valérian et Laureline.  Should we rename the article? Joe King 15:47, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd support it, using the simplest correct title. MURGH disc. 16:25, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name change?

message: I hope I'm not breaking any Wiki-etiquette here but, for the information of other editors, I felt it best to copy the following discussion between myself and User:Emb021 regarding an addition he made to the article today — Joe King 22:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, you made the following addition to the Valérian: Spatio-Temporal Agent article yesterday: "They had planned to continue by publishing The Birds of the Master and then republishing Welcome to Aflolol, again as two issue comics, but this never happened.". Can you please provide a reliable source, per WP:V and WP:RS please? Thanks —- Joe King 17:03, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi.  I added the info about Fantasy Flight's plans for additional Valerian 'albums' (comics, actually).  I can't get a citation for this, as I don't have this info.  I have long be interested in American reprints of various European comic albums (because I wanted to get them a read them), and have been keeping a list of them, including their titles and who published them.  I also kept note of promised reprints, and when they didn't emerge, I would update my list to indicate they never came out.  When FF announced their reprint plans for several European albums, I noted them, include Valerian.  Now, other thing I wonder is whether or not NBM did in fact re-publish those 4 Dargaud-USA albums.  Having the 4 DargaudUSA albums, I had no interest to get the NBM ones, so I am uncertain if they in fact re-published them.  Some something for someone to confirm.  --Emb021 20:04, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Michael, thanks for coming back about your additions to the Valérian article. I note that you state that you don't have a cite for Fantasy Flight's intentions to print two further titles in the series but you also state that you have been keeping a list of European comics for which English translations have been made or scheduled. Presumably this information came from somewhere - either a press release from the company or a trade publication? Is it just the case that you never kept track of where you picked up the info in the first place? Given that the other editors on the article are keen to put it up for WP:GA, we're a bit sensitive about contributors adding uncited material at the moment. I would propose to keep the line with the  tag on the article until the GA nomination is initiated - if either you (or another editor - I'll do some research myself) can find a cite then well and good, if not I think we'll park the line on the talk page until someone can come up with a suitable cite. I'll also copy our discussion onto the main article talk page for the other editors to see. I hope you understand - by the way, the other changes you made to the article were very useful. Regards — Joe King 21:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You wrote me: "Presumably this information came from somewhere - either a press release from the company or a trade publication? Is it just the case that you never kept track of where you picked up the info in the first place?" Yes. I would get items like "Amazing Heroes" (which would have announcements of upcoming publications) and occasionaly read other comic zines with similiar info, catalogs from the publishers, which many times would list upcoming publications, and the like. I would update my list with these upcoming publications, because I was hoping they would be published (and I'd get them). Too often they either didn't come out, or worse, the publisher went under. While it would be great to get citations for all info, frankly the Wikipedia editors really need to ramp it down. I find it a bit off putting as a contributor. --Emb021 22:08, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: English translations: further titles planned by Fantasy Flight

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replies: text: Thanks very much for the pass and for your very useful advice regarding taking the article to the next stage. Much appreciates. - Joe King 18:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA passed and moving forward 

message: <I>It belongs to the rich family of Franco-Belgian comics.</I>
This sentence makes my head hurt. Does 'rich family' even mean anything? And it's kind of obvious it's French. Lots42 03:28, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. There are several comments in the intro that made me feel like I was reading something from the publisher or at least from another source... - jc37 04:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
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message: Hello, everyone!
I would like to propose you to write a list of planets, moons, stations and other locations from the comics, the manga and the movie. If anyone wants to support this idea, please write something about it.
--Aledownload (talk) 16:11, 14 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal for a list of locations

message: na'vi seem to draw inspiration from pearl species. Also there is a similar story of killing and stealing resources.  Setenzatsu.2 (talk) 17:54, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inspired avatar ? 

message: This is a cringeworthy disgrace. Bucktricycle (talk) 13:40, 9 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  There's way too much editorialising and inappropriate language in this article