Talk:Kepler College

message: The negative criticism has some references.  However, there are none for the apologetic section. The author is requested to cite the sources for the arguments in defence of the college.
Also, the apologetics section opening line was recently changed to "In answer to the above, I would ask what better place......."
This makes the argument look as if it is one individual person's POV.
Quoting from the Wikipedia project page Wikipedia:Describing points of view,
 At Wikipedia, points of view (POV) are often essential to articles which treat controversial subjects. In    
 Thought du Jour Harold Geneen has stated: [1]
     "The reliability of the person giving you the facts is as important as the facts themselves. Keep in mind that  
 facts are seldom facts, but what people think are facts, heavily tinged with assumptions."
 Hard facts are really rare. What we most commonly encounter are opinions from people (POV's). Inherently, because   
 of this, most articles on Wikipedia are full of POVs. An article which clearly, accurately, and fairly describes 
 all the major points of view will, by definition, be in accordance with Wikipedia's official "Neutral Point of 
 View" policy.
 Each POV should be clearly labeled and described, so readers know:
     * Who advocates the point of view
     * What their arguments are (supporting evidence, reasoning, etc.)
So, kindly add the sources for the arguments in defence of the college. Thank you for your effort.
Savio mit electronics 00:14, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations for Positive Criticism

message: By longstanding consensus, editors with a vested interest in the content of a subject should not edit the article directly, with the possible exception of correcting minor and uncontroversial erres such as spelling.  Guy 21:35, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reminder 

message: Please clean up your additions: Be aware that wikipedia has a strict policy on presenting anti/psuedo-science NOT as fact. Somone with an MA quoted from the "school's" website will not be presented as an authority that is better than the academic conclusions of astrologies. Historians in that context are used as a strawman, why not mention scientists conclusions of astrology? Arbusto 01:00, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see my changes were reverted. In a few days I will clean this up for the undue weight on psuedoscience in this. Example of a serious problem: what does a person with a degree in Botany have to do with being competent to know about astrology? Arbusto 16:57, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean up

message: I have switched the order of the article's two sections, Criticisms/Controversy and Description, placing the former last and vice-versa.  The reason: it seemed strange to criticize a subject before describing it.  If any critics feel threatened by this, worrying that naive readers will overlook the criticisms and be unduly influenced, you may take comfort in this: critics now get the last word.  fuper 04:59, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Order of Contents

message: Anonymous user 75.24.209.176 has made some recent edits that I feel are not appropriate for this article. Specifically,
*the edited text now uses weasel words – changing "The choice of name is also somewhat ironic" to "The choice of name has been thought by some as somewhat ironic"
*the user claims that the quote by Lodge is not sourced, i.e. "correction of claim about the unknown source Oliver Joseph Lodge", however the source (James Newman's The World of Mathematics) is given right down to the specific page number
*according to the user, Lodge's article in Newman's book says that Kepler was critical of astrologers, not astrology itself – this is patently incorrect; it says quite clearly that Kepler was critical of astrology – just reading the quote demonstrates this. I am not specifically a Kepler scholar, and so I concede there may be other sources that say what 75.24.209.176 claims. This article is not one of these. If such exist, the user should please add these.
There are other changes this user made that may or may not be appropriate. If there are no objections, I will revert just the above 3 aspects in a week or two.Agricola44 (talk) 07:38, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Oliver Lodge Quote

message: I suggest a massive cleanup. Silence from Wikipedians is tacit approval. Yours, --Phleer (talk) 18:32, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is mostly quotes  

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