Talk:Western Belorussia

message: the last sentance doesnt sound very npov: "This explains why many people decided collaborate with Germans during Nazi occupation of Belarus".are you sure thats the reason, and how many is "many"? i think it needs an improvement. BL kiss the lizard 11:08, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved from [[Talk:Western_Belarus]] after merging the articles 

message: Facts, please.Xx236 12:21, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  the Belarusian minority in Poland was repressed 

message: "Belarusians formed 3.1% of the populations" - In whole Poland or in Western Belarus? --Vulpes vulpes 11:09, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Numbers 

message: Isn't "western Belarus" the more literal translation of "Заходняя Беларусь / Западная Белоруссия/"? I think the latter is also more natural-sounding English. I know there are colloquial "East Germany" and "West Germany" (besides the two Koreas, north and south), but there are 20,000 more Google hits for "western Belarus" than "west Belarus," even with the Wiki mirrors shwowing up in searching for the latter... Anti-Nationalist (talk) 22:22, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "West Belarus" or "Western Belarus"? 

message: Polish POV is - it was Eastern Poland. Please explain when did the Western superpowers accept the German-Russian treaty and its results. Certainly not in 1939 or 1940. Maybe the UK did in 1941, but UK wasn't a majority.
So the caption presents Soviet POV. Xx236 (talk) 09:22, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Administrative division of the Belorussian SSR in 1939-1944 

message: Which means that before the 1930 the Belarusian representation was considerable.Xx236 (talk) 08:00, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Belarusian representation in the Polish parliament was reduced  

message: Some of the subjects are mentioned in the section Poland, but some details aren't. 
:Soviet partisans and terrorists (Siarhei Prytytski) led the war in Western Belarus. Soviet spies and terrorists were trained in Eastern Belarus, in the Internationale school in Moscow. Soviet raid on Stołpce. Border Protection Corps was created to stop the Soviet terrorism.
:Poland exchanged Tarashkevich toward Belarus activist Frantsishak Alyakhnovich imprisoned in Solovki.
:West Belarus activists who moved to the SU were murdered by the Soviets or imprisoned in Gulag camps in much worse conditions than in Bereza.
:Poland Polonised and Soviet Union Russified.
:Poles in Western Belarus were imprisoned, murdered or deported.
:Peasants in Eastern Belarus lost  their lands and become sklaves in kolkhoses.
:Western Belarus was occupied by the Soviets 1939-1941. Belarus people lost their feelings toward Communism.
:Hramada was dissolved in 1927.
Xx236 (talk) 12:54, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: The majority of Poles live in the Western regions including 230,000 in the Grodno oblast. Sapotskin region is ethnically Polish.Xx236 (talk) 13:20, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  It is almost homogeneous  

message: A number of Belarus academicians have been expelled from Grodno University. The question - does the Belarusian government influence historical research? Xx236 (talk) 12:03, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The same subjects are being described in several pages. It's much more difficult to edit four pages than one and the same facts may be presented differently in the same project, on the basis of the same methodology. Xx236 (talk) 06:19, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

text: Communist Party of Western Belarus has been mentioned only in the context of Hramada, which was only one form of the party's activities.Xx236 (talk) 06:25, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

text: I have a source  Bezpieczeństwo wewnętrzne w polityce państwa polskiego na ziemiach północno-wschodnich II Rzeczypospolitej (Google Books), Warszawa: Instytut Studiów Politycznych PAN, 2007 by :pl:Wojciech Śleszyński. It says that the CPWB opposed taxes in Poland. (It didn't oppose taxtes in the SU.) The activists were trained in GPU Minsk. I'll read and quote the source. The author has published a number of books about Western Belarus.Xx236 (talk) 08:05, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Western Belarus today: Grodno University repressions 

message: Why the page describes the facts till 1941 only? The Holocaust, expulsion of Poles, Sovietisation and Russification - very exceptional history of the area has its roots in WB. Xx236 (talk) 12:26, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened in Western Belarus since 1941? 

message: Belarusians of the West Belarus spoke:
*South-West dialects;
*Centfral dialects;
*Poleshuks dialects;
*standard Belarusian.
I don't know the opinion of Belarusian nationalists, but I assume they wanted to teach standard Belarusian (what was the opinion of Poleshuks ?). At the same time Belarusian was deveoped/Russified/Sovietised in BSSR, later Soviet Belarusian activists were murdered or imprisoned. Xx236 (talk) 13:17, 4 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The same subjects are being described in several pages. It's much more difficult to edit four pages than one and the same facts may be presented differently in the same project, on the basis of the same methodology. Xx236 (talk) 06:19, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

text: Communist Party of Western Belarus has been mentioned only in the context of Hramada, which was only one form of the party's activities.Xx236 (talk) 06:25, 5 August 2016 (UTC)

text: I have a source  Bezpieczeństwo wewnętrzne w polityce państwa polskiego na ziemiach północno-wschodnich II Rzeczypospolitej (Google Books), Warszawa: Instytut Studiów Politycznych PAN, 2007 by :pl:Wojciech Śleszyński. It says that the CPWB opposed taxes in Poland. (It didn't oppose taxtes in the SU.) The activists were trained in GPU Minsk. I'll read and quote the source. The author has published a number of books about Western Belarus.Xx236 (talk) 08:05, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The langauages of Belarusians 

message: I would like to ask all participants in our discussion if, in your opinion, we have enough new material now to attempt to edit the article for compliance with the academically supported content. — Should we begin with the Treaty of Riga? Because there was no concept of "east" and "west" before that... Poeticbent talk 19:23, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: The transference of Poles from Western Belarus to Poland (1944-1946) is more or less referenced, but not a word is said about the transference of Belarusians from Poland to Western Belarus, having place simultaneously and by the same pacts. I wonder why.Joan Rocaguinard (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 13:57, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Surprising silence

message: Xx236 (talk) 12:04, 29 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Republic of Belarus but Belorussia? 

message: This revert, beyond sourcing issues and V issues vs. the cited sources (which are to those taking responsibility for the content to address), is simply off topic and WP:SYNTH to this article. Western Belorussia was part of the Second Polish Republic and was not subject to the great purge (and the Polish and other national operations conducted by the Soviets) which took place in the USSR. The cited sources don't seem to address Western Belorussia and nor does the text. Icewhiz (talk) 06:18, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The section contrast the Polish part of Belarus with the Soviet part and explains the political background for both parts. So yeah, it's relevant.Volunteer Marek (talk) 07:51, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  This is under a section title of Hramada - or Belarusian Peasants' and Workers' Union - a Belarusian political party in the Second Polish Republic - suggesting that the Belarusian minority in Poland (who themselves were in quite challenging circumstances) had anything to do with the great purge by the Soviets in another country - is beyond being off-topic, a severe NPOV issue. Icewhiz (talk) 08:37, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great Soviet Purge 

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