Talk:Artemio Ricarte

message: TRUE: General Artemio Ricarte was the Capitan-General of the "Ejercito en la Republica de la Filipina" (Philippine Revolutionary Army). General Ricarte was never was never under the command of the U.S Army.
FALSE: General Ricarte is the "Father" of the Philippine Army. The roots of the Philippine Army are the Philippine Scouts and the Philippine Constabulary under the Americans.
TRUE: The Father of the Philippine Army as established and organized under the National Defense Act of December 21,1935 (Commonwealth Act No. 1) is General Douglas MacArthur. He was the Field Marshal of the American-led and backed Philippine Army.
TRUE: The founding date of the present day Philippine Army was 1935 not 1897.
SOLUTION: Such claims can only be valid if there is a new law recognizing that the Philippine Army was officially founded on March 22, 1897 and organized by the First Philippine Republic. Unfortunately, the only existing law regarding the formation of the Philippine Army is the National Defense Act of December 21,1935 (Commonwealth Act No. 1) under the Americans.
PROPOSAL: Therefore the questionable entries regarding Artemio Ricarte as Father or being a part of the Philippine Army should be deleted. You can not cite Wikipedia as your source -- refer to Verifiability guidelines. TheMilitaryExpert (talk) 15:19, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Please let me express what I think of this proposition. While the current organization now known as the Philippine Army was indeed founded in December of 1935, the said institution still recognizes March 22 [that is, 1897] as its real founding date, just as June 12 was to Philippine independence day and not July 4. I think that excluding this claim that Ricarte was anywhere near being "Father of the Philippine Army" could be an offense on the part of Filipino readers. It is general knowledge that the modern Philippine Army is a revival of the Philippine Revolutionary Army (later Philippine Republican Army) of the Aguinaldo government, which after the Philippine-American War, was suppressed and there is no actual standing army composed of Filipinos. It cannot be belittled that even if the First Philippine Republic was short-lived, it had organized a real standing army that actually took the American years to subjugate. Please, let us also look at this context. Arius1998 (talk) 13:01, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artemio Ricarte is NOT and can NOT be the "Father" of the Philippine Army 

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