Talk:Eastern Mediterranean University

message: NOTE: Is now translated into English..Is not a personal attack because he was found guilty by the disiplinary committee and susupended from teaching for some period. I have been informed that he was aquitted for different compliants. Therfore, this document is important and official.
To the ELH Office of the Chair,
We as students of the department of English Literature and Humanities would like to state some of our complaints about one of our teachers D A D in order to contribute towards the future and intellectual improvement of our department.  In spite of this being his second year with us he has not been able to create proper dialog between his students. Some of the complaints of the students include the following:
	His classes are unproductive. It seems to us that he is filling the class hours with meaningless words because that is what he is doing: Killing Time. He does not contribute towards providing us information or improving our creativity.
	He does not treat all students equally. When a student arrives late to class he decides according to student whether to allow them in. We believe if there are rules and principles it should apply to all students equally.
	He usually comes to class tense (stressful) and reflects this to students. It affects our concentration and student output..
	He does not use different materials and which could spark our interest. This leads to monotoınous lessons and problems with motivation for students. Also, he does quizes and assignments without lecture on the topic.
	 Even if the topic of the class is not related to it he manages to find a way to incororate his own nationality and country. This does not constitute as helpful material and we do not want to listen to propaganda.
	He brings his mobile phone into classes and does not even switch it off. If it rings, he answers  but he says he does not even want to see student mobile phones on the table. This affects our concentration and proves that there is a double Standard with regards to this. When we ask him of this he says it is because he is a professor.
	He continously looks at his watch. This proves that he is bored of the class, he does not enjoy his job and does not want to bother with us. This affects us because we want professors who enjoy their class time. He says it is because he is a Professional and has to regulate and keep track of time. We are complaining because we do not find his classes Professional at all.
	He does not take attendance but checks who has brought in the course package. He deducts 1 point for failure to bring the package. Some students decided to buy a package together and share due to economical reasons. He judges these students by their clothes and decides whether they can afford to buy the package or not. We do not want to be treated like primary school students in univrsity.
	He constatly says that this university is not a ‘real’ university and gives us exxamples of other universities. This is contributing to some distate against the university
	He constantly speaks negatively of our univrsity.  He speaks about the Rector negatively and reflects the economic problems into his classes. This is not the subject of our classes and we would rather it stay out of our classes.
The above are some our our complaints.  The student signitures provided underneath prove that the students named agree to al lor some of the above complaints. We request that the subject be discussed and handled as soon as possible.
Regards,  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gulizcik (talk • contribs) 17:42, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this press release printed? Any references to it on the Internet? --Adoniscik(t, c) 16:04, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

text: I am beginning to suspect you too are involved with the incident. Do you have a grudge against the school? I am trying to understand your persistence in wanting to add poorly-sourced material. --Adoniscik(t, c) 05:16, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

text: It's not a personal attack. I am trying to ascertain whether your contribution is a violation of WP:COI. --Adoniscik(t, c) 06:15, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

text: No, I have no COI, and yes, I am trying to ascertain your COI situation. I'm not the one trying to include allegations; you are. I am going with the consensus to remove them. This is starting to resemble playground taunts of "I know you are but what am I." Don't you have anything substantial to say? We're still waiting for your sources. --Adoniscik(t, c) 06:58, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notice from the English Literature dept. 

message: I am left with is certain bad taste after this futile and inappropriate exchange with  and /. I suggest strongly that we revert to the version of the article as edited by mediation. The case is currently in arbitration and a final decision will be made later on. Meanwhile, I am appealing to participants again (and again..) to behave in a civilized manner.
--2knowledgeable (talk) 07:12, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why rush to arbitration? We are still waiting for you to provide something more legitimate than a Web forum of anonymous people. --Adoniscik(t, c) 07:17, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

text: So when you wrote that this faculty member "was investigated by the disciplinary board and he was found guilty"  you were lying. And you hate your Professor. Enough to tell lies about him. And the university administration hated him enough to act on these lies. Most likely, they figured that even of he is acquitted, you will make his life miserable enough that he will quit. You probably provide the best proof that the allegations against the university are true. Too bad that this is not exactly the kind of documentation we are looking for.. --2knowledgeable (talk) 19:25, 27 August 2008 (UTC)

text: "Not up to the STANDARDS of THIS university"… This is truly funny. --2knowledgeable (talk) 06:18, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverting to Version Following Mediation 

message: Adoniscik why did you delete the names in the academics section?Gulizcik (talk) 18:53, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No proof of notability! Before the list had people I recognized as being unnotable in their fields, so I trimmed it. See the comment in the section. The easiest "proof" of notability is having an article, so I suggest we stick to that, otherwise cite what the faculty member is famous for. --Adoniscik(t, c) 19:20, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Being an administrator is not an indicator of notability; an accomplishment in the field is. Every school has deans, after all. --Adoniscik(t, c) 20:33, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Only Mustafa Halilsoy has an article. Having an article by itself is a sign of accomplishment because we delete articles of people who are not notable. It's a simple system :) --Adoniscik(t, c) 05:58, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of names 

message: I am glad that Gulizcik feels "so goooddd :))," and that this user is neither embarrassed by repeated warnings that his/her entries are inappropriate and provide no scholarly contribution to this article, nor by the discovery of the fact that he/she supplies misleading information (see above). But perhaps this person's chatter can be of some value: Gulizcik basically affirms the facts quoted in the forum of The Chronicle, that the Jewish faculty member (whom Gulizcik hates with a passion) was put on ridiculous charges (he bought his students pizza??) and was acquitted… but had to leave anyway (and why did the only other Jewish faculty member on campus have to leave at the same time?). Could we reintroduce the forum as source, and use the entries by Gulizcik to substantiate it? 
Also, if Gulizcik is an former-student of EMU (as the user claims), we certainly have a clear testimony to the atmosphere and the mentality of this institution in the user's entries. I think that Gulizcik causes more harm to EMU than anything I might say.
At any-rate, I think that we all feel that this issue is still waiting to come out and that we will see more solid sources later. Despite Gulizcik's requests/threats, I think that this faculty member has every right to pursue the people who hurt him, even if this is not comfortable to Gulizcik or the university. He also has a moral duty to warn others not to take teaching position there. If EMU doesn't like the results, perhaps they shouldn't have persecuted this person in the first place? Just a thought.
--2knowledgeable (talk) 06:37, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see Wikipedia:Reliable source examples#Are wikis reliable sources? --Adoniscik(t, c) 06:08, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

text: The article is now protected which means that you two should have a vigorous debate and come to an agreement. Adoniscik(t, c) 14:44, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Using Gulizcik as Source? 

message: Since no one expressed objection to using Gulizcik as a source, I have reintroduced the materials from The Chronicle with Gulizcik's confirmation. I added the user's strong objection to the allegations against the university (and the reasoning for it) as well as the user's views about the Jewish problem. --2knowledgeable (talk) 05:45, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see Wikipedia:Reliable source examples#Are wikis reliable sources? --Adoniscik(t, c) 06:08, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

text: The article is now protected which means that you two should have a vigorous debate and come to an agreement. Adoniscik(t, c) 14:44, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Implementing change 

message: There has been a sock report and some edit warring involving  and . They were removing a criticism section; they are affiliated with EMU- see these links:  .
I propose that  be added. JeremyMcCracken (talk) (contribs) 14:49, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ) I only changed by account because I felt my last name was not neccessary not to fool anyone. If you would like I can go back to my old account. I am not affliated with EMU. I was a student at the university 2003-2008. I have recently applied to do my Masters degree at EMU and I did those translations voluntarily for someone. By the way they were not printed in Cyprus Today..I wonder why?? The article you have there I also did without recieving any payment. You should all just accept that I am just trying to tell you all the truth and the section should be removed because of the unreliable source and fake allegations.Gulizcik (talk) 15:17, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conflict of interest September, 2008 

message: It was very mildly suggested in the discussion above that editor Gulizcik might have a certain COI regarding the case discussed. However, if Gulizcik is indeed the student G S (as she professes to be), then the situation goes far beyond a COI. G S features front and center in this case. She has been asked by Dr. E. and Dean B (whom Gulizcik exalts to no end..) to disrupt and sabotage Dr. D's classes, organize petitions against him, and harass him and threaten him on the phone, in his office and on email. 
In his defense, Dr. D. presents dozens of documents pertaining to G S (numbers 18a  to 18w!), and addresses her accusation that he gave her too high a grade (!) on a class assignment.
He writes the following:
:Charge 3-b relates to one of dozens of complaints by G S (#####), a student who walks out of classes, slams doors (18a), disrupts classes with rude remarks(18d-f), and who has been making threats against me (18g-h)and harassing me, first in my office and through the phone, and later by e-mail (18a-w). A typical example is her last email from June 24 (18v-w). Her message, filled with lies and insults is based on her claim that while her number grade in the course was 95, her letter grade is B+. It’s a serious accusation, unless one takes into account that her number grade in the course was 76. This number is posted on my office door, and has been sent to the chair with the breakdown of all semester grades. I have been bending over backwards to be fair to G, but nothing has ever been good enough. In this case, G missed her class presentation on March 5. Only at the end of the semester, and after classes were over, she “recalled” that she did not feel well on that day, and provided a medical report to the fact (28). Since I had to respect her medical report, a serious problem was created in evaluating a class presentation which she could no longer perform. I discussed this matter with the chair extensively, asking him to “instruct me very clearly what to do in this case” and following his instructions to the letter (18q-s): to accept G’s medical note and to award her presentation the same grade that her final project merited. By the way, G took an extensive part in the chair’s effort to produce complaints against me, and in return he condoned and encouraged her behavior.
That Gulizcik is presenting herself as having a conflict of interest is putting if very mildly. If Wikipedia has any rules in this regard (as in regards to foul language, vandalism, attacking individuals, knowingly providing false information, making anti-Semitic comments and a myriad of other un-pleasantries visited on this page by Gulizcik), I think that its about time that some rules will be applied.--2knowledgeable (talk) 09:29, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  COI – Are You Joking? 

message: Between the lies and threats; the vandalism and the bullying; the discussion of "the Jews" and their "strange ways"; and the silent aid from a Turkish nationalist administrator; Gulizcik provided no evidence (except her personal dislike) that Cyprus Today is not a reliable source. The conversation, which should revolve around sources and their validity, has degenerated into an endless and abusive chatter. Changes in the article have been made by those who had enough persistence and Hotzpa… to simply delete what they don't like.
Can anyone present a (serious) argument that the practically single English Newspaper in North Cyprus in unreliable (If so… this does say something about this country and the sources of information available to English speakers)? 
If not, please return the section to where it belongs. 
As for all the superfluous arguments cluttering this page: No Jews = no anti-Semitism. Two Jews = anti Semitism. I think most readers can do the math.  --2knowledgeable (talk) 09:30, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the Discussion Here Still about Sources? 

message: Does anyone realise how ridiculous these allegations actually are? I am assumming that the first part is referring to the faculty member I personally knew. So, that is a lie. The second about a British faculty member being removed as department chair because he went to the south is not only ridiculous but it is so funny. I do not know how a newspaper in their right mind could possibly even consider printing these two stories. It must have been a very slow news week. Is anyone actually wanting to keep this section besides 2K? Gulizcik (talk) 15:49, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see that anything is ridiculous here except the university's own behavior. As someone who admittedly introduced false information in this discussion , Gulizcik (talk) should be a little more careful when talking about lies (particularly since she cannot back her statements with any sources). --2knowledgeable (talk) 17:23, 21 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Remember that what goes in an article must be verifiable. Ultimately, the portion(s) of the story for which there is independent verification is what goes into the article. First-hand knowledge does not a reliable source make. —C.Fred (talk) 22:12, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latest Revision of Allegations of Administrative Misconduct 

message: This article is semi-protected for one month as a result of this case: Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Gulizcik (2nd nomination)  — Rlevse • Talk •  02:31, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Protected

message: I request that we change the title from Allegations of administrative Misconduct to Conflict maybe if anyone has a better one we can consider. The only allegations of that apply for one article. The other did not even mention anything about the administration.  I wanted to add that a student informed the Academic Union about the students complaints because that student was me! I'm kind of wondering why the union did not make a more truthful statement about it but there you go. In fact, I also wanted to say that when I went t the union they were very nice and understanding towards me. They even said they they were proud to have such a student in the university who cares about these issues and the future of the university. Of course, I was also understanding of their issues since the conversation took place at a time of difficulty. I had a good conversation with them and this is why it puzzles me that they did not reflect this in their statement. Either they were just being nice to me in the office or they did not want to publicly reject an allegation agaist the administration???
I also want to take out the part that starts out 'There are different versions...' This statement was not made by a party in the conflict(unless it was related to him). The only two statements that matter are the university administration and the professor himself. Who agrees? Who disagrees?  Gulizcik (talk) 16:37, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Stop editing the article; you have a COI. Could someone scan the newspaper articles and post them for us to summarize? --Adoniscik(t, c) 18:01, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision 

message: It should change to "Northern Cyprus" as the link is pointing to an article named Northern Cyprus. Alaskaris (talk) 14:18, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:   Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus 

message: Normally, library is open during the the week except Sundays, from 9.00 A.M to 22.00 P.M. However, all the sections of EMU library is open during the exam periods. Reference and reserve sections are open in normal days up to 22.00 , For encouraging students to study more and more and get prepared better for the exams all of the sections are open during the exam periods.
MansourJE (talk) 06:23, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time limit of the library 

message: Electrical&Electronic engineering department was one of the first departments which received this accreditation. EMU university asked the ABET to come to university and evaluate some of its engineering departments. ABET stands for Accreditation Board Engineering and Technology.
More info can be acquired here:
http://www.abet.org/
MansourJE (talk)    — Preceding undated comment added 16:28, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  ABET Accreditation 

message: I'm not sure that "For your international career" is the University motto. It's more of a sales pitch. This should be corrected if this is the case. Some motto's of other universities are: 
Cambridge University (UK):                 Hinc lucem et pocula sacra (From this place, we gain enlightenment and precious knowledge)
Massachusetts Institute of Technology(US): Mens et Manus (Mind and Hand)
Oxford University (UK):                    Dominus Illuminatio Mea (The Lord is my Light)
Syracuse University (US:                   Suos Cultores Scientia Coronat (Knowledge crowns those who seek her)
Middle East Technical University (Turkey) :Scientia Dux Vitae Certissimus (Our true mentor in life is science)
Bilkent University (Turkey) :              Veritas (Truth)  
I am not sure what the motto is myself but I'm sure that this information can be found and corrected.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paltheus (talk • contribs) 21:26, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motto 

message: Someone had the brilliant idea of marking the section titled “Allegations of administrative misconduct” as “unverifiable,” “unjustified” and “relying upon a single source.” The only thing that is unverified and unjustified are these stickers. This short section is based on two credible sources – published locally in Northern Cyprus (and everyone on the Island knows pretty much what’s going on at EMU), their verified and the allegations are completely justified. If someone is uncomfortable with that, they should not insert stickers in an attempt to deny reality, but, who knows… maybe try to change the way EMU behaves?
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thread_title:  unsubstantiated stickers 

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