Talk:Insulated glazing

message: When isn't glazing referring to glass? Isn't that the whole definition of glazing? Civil Engineer III 18:24, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It can refer to certain plastics, e.g. polycarbonate. See Glazing. --Singkong2005 (t - c - WPID) 06:30, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  definition 

message: I've never heard the term Insulated glazing before - I wonder if it's a UK term? Not used in the UK' at least not by the general public! Is it a US term? Double glazing and triple glazing are more common in Australia and the UK - compare 52 google results for "insulated glazing" site:.au compared to 36,400 for "double glazing" site:.au and 305 for "triple glazing" site:.au. Similar comparisons results are found searching without the restriction to .au sites, but not quite as extreme (still about 150 times as many references to double glazing).
Having said that, insulated glazing may still be the better term, as it's a broader term (at least covering double glazing and triple glazing). --Singkong2005 (t - c - WPID) 06:30, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Googling for "insulated glazing" gets about 21,400 hits; Googling for "double glazing" gets about 2,900,000 hits! "Triple glazing" gets 63,500 hits, i.e. three times as much as "insulated glazing". - Eyeresist 02:33, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Common term?

message: Insulated glazing unit is most commonly known as "IGU" in North America and as a "DGU" in Europe. I think the abbreviation "IGU" should have a 'disambiguation' page, with "International Geographic Union", "International Gas Union" etc. included. I dont know how to create something like that. IGU should then be added to the title of the article.
I would also like to focus the article on primarily Glass IGUs. The reason for that is that this is the most common reference for the term and because there is a vast amount of information specific to glass IGUs that needs to be added, which I would love to undertake.
I have started some work already and am wondering if I should wait for any feedback on this comment before I start modifying the article more radically. This is my first attempt at editing on Wikipedia. I am an architect specializing in matters of glass and curtain walls. 
Thanks.
Sarega 01:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your efforts and enthusiasm. This article could use some radical transofmation, so go ahead and be bold. If you make a mistake, it's easily fixable, and there are certainly enough experienced editors watching out for and and the articles. So have fun! (And I certainly agree that it should focus on glass) Civil Engineer III 13:05, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title of the article 

message: I do not think that the first sentence of this article is appropriate. It makes no attempt to explain what Insulated Glazing is but rather states some facts about the role of windows in heat loss from buildings. This may be a valid point to make even in the top paragraph but the first sentence should introduce to the reader the subject of the article. Even in cases where the subject matter is complicated the first sentence should still able to give a bit of information about what is about to be described and into what categories it falls - is it a person, a product, a brand, a concept, does someone own it etc.
I thought someone who takes an interest in this area might like to change this section.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mark Neilan (talk • contribs) 17:59, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Sentence 

message: I would like to see a close-up image of the different types of panes (particularly double panes), as many people have trouble telling if their panes are well insulating double panes or single panes.
...erm, one of them has one piece of glass and one of them has two. that simple enough?? Paulmallon (talk) 14:17, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo requested 

message: Is it just me or does this whole section sound like a load of pov from someone who runs a company that drills holes in double glazing?? The comment about the glazing industry not recycling glass from failed dgu's is certainly not true in the uk.  Paulmallon (talk) 14:17, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is POV. The solution is to add other POVs to make it balanced. I think the point that desiccant can become saturated is worth mentioning, especially if it's really impossible to exchange that then IGUs are not sustainable, which defeats the intention of many people who install them. If you know more about the subject, please help improve this section. — Sebastian 19:30, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Condensation inside units 

message: An IP editor keeps insisting that chemical elelmements be spelled with capitals, which is of course not supported by Wikipedia:Naming conventions (capitalization) or by any publication outside of Wikipedia. Since that editor also did some marginal improvements, I manually only reverted the capitalization and patiently explained the situation at user talk:66.217.240.42. However, my edits were immediately reverted (this time from IP address 66.217.114.54 ), again with some marginal improvements.  I now went through the changes manually again, but I will not have the time to be that thorough next time, and next time, I (or any other editor here) may simply undo any such edits altogether. — Sebastian 07:51, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  And noting that you are certainly correct.Ccrrccrr (talk) 05:18, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capicalization of chemical elelmements 

message: The component section needs to have a subsection on sealants. I will add that shortly. Some of the references I used (i.e Southwall) are there simply because no one else in North America or elsewhere is doing this kind of work and is NOT POV content nor is it intended as such. I do not have any dealing with this organization. Hschlarb (talk) 23:19, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sealants and stuff 

message: Did anyone else notice that reference 7 and 9 are the same? Should this not be adjusted, or is there a special reason to do this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by NickVdBroeck (talk • contribs) 20:28, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: At my workplace we got sent a notice not to stick anything to our double-glazed windows (like posters or even post-it notes) because they would cause "differential heat stress" which could lead to the glass shattering. I did a little googling, and it seems that double-glazed windows may implode / explode in some situations. Does anyone know any more about this? 203.217.150.68 (talk) 03:18, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Safety 

message: Obviously this is a critical piece of the article, and the values given are seriously wrong.  This mislead me, and it can be verified by the unit conversion factor between the two.  There seems to be a serious problem with confusion on this issue.  The R-value article says the conversion between U value and R value is 1 h·ft²·°F/Btu = 0.176110 K·m²/W.  From this it is apparent that the 5.6782 W/m2·k= btu/h·ft2·f .  And yet the part here says the u value of a double glazed window unit is 0.35 w/m2·k and yet 2 btu/h·ft2·f. The table in one of the comments above says the u value for a double  glazed unit it 2.6 w/m2-k.  someone should recheck this from the basic units, and if I have timee I will hunt down more accurate u values for windows...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.94.107.92 (talk) 10:04, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  thermal section 

message: Nothing in the whole article about this which suprises me. Basically, lots of heat is lost through radiation assuming no curtains which are open during the day anyway. Infrared reflective coatings on the inside are basically mandatory throughout the EU for all new glass windows to meet the required U-values. Also in the same vein, I believe it's common to have different spectrum coatings on the outside to reduce greenhouse effect heating.
Djp (talk) 09:32, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coatings to reduce heat loss, etc. 

message: I was wondering if the sound transmission properties of an IGU vary with different filler gases (air vs argon). 
From sound theory, sound intensity increases lineraly with gas density, so would argon have much higher sound transmission than air?
Dazalc (talk) 19:25, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sound transmission for different filler gases? 

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