Talk:Jammu division

message: "Population
• Total 	13,79,678"
Even number format is wrong.
It should be 5,350,811, according to the 2011 census.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.232.36.10 (talk) 09:41, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Population indicated incorrectly in the info box

message: This paragraph clearly represents an Indian point of view that “ Jammu is one of the three regions comprising the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir.The Pir Panjal range of mountains seperates Jammu from the Kashmir valley. Jammu borders Kashmir valley to the north, Ladakh to the east, Himachal Pradesh to the south and Pakistan occupied Kashmir to the west.”
The state of Jammu and Kashmir is a disputed territory therefore it cannot be called “the Indian state of Jammu and Kashmir”
Maakhter 11:33, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see anything wrong with the wordings. The dispute over Kashmir is already mentioned in the Jammu and Kashmir (J&K) and Kashmir article. Jammu is just a sub-region within the state of Jammu and Kashmir. It is illogical to mention the Kashmir dispute in every article related to J&K.
Truth is that Pakistan and India Occupied our Kingdom by force to steel our sources  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.81.37.33 (talk) 14:55, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Disputed Territory

message: There are several reasons to merge this page:
1- Kashmir page, Jammu and Kashmir page, and this page are supposed to be showing exactly the same subject.
2- These pages have a large overlap.
This page should be organized like Kashmir page.
: I don't think the page should be merged. This page should deal with Jammu as a separate city or indeed state, which doesn't then directly overlap with Kashmir or J&K.
: It does need a bit of cleaning up, though. -- TinaSparkle 19:46, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Vote AGAINST merger. Plenty of people, including me, come here to read about the 'Jammu' part of 'Jammu and Kashmir' It's an official, govt defined region, with its own govt. web page. It needs its own page. Merging it would be MORE confusing and less informative.jackbrown (talk) 20:12, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge this page with Kashmir or with Jammu and Kashmir

message: This page should be organized like Kashmir page. Furthermore, this page is clearly showing pro-Indian bias.
I would hope that people would read the article before labelling it as biased. I would like an example of this supposed bias, so that I can be illuminated as to the location whence I may find it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.47.136.60 (talk) 00:03, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pro-Indian Bias

message: Shouldnt there be different articles for the city of Jammu, Jammu District and Jammu region -- PlaneMad|YakYak 08:51, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Definitely. I'll work on this. Anyone interested, please feel free to join. Thanks. --GDibyendu (talk) 18:12, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tagged the article to make this issue still more imperative. __meco (talk) 10:58, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split Article 

message: I  mistakenly added db-spam tag to article, I apologize for that. Tag is removed now. Oniongas (talk) 18:22, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: speedy deletion

message: How many temples are we describing- one, two or three? I started copyediting this section, but couldn't tell if there were redundancies in the descriptions or these were actually different temples. One is described as within the fort, another is on the bank of the river, another across the road. Vontrotta (talk) 19:52, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bahu Fort section 

message: please add url/weblink of Mahant Bachittar Singh College as www.mbscet.org
115.117.147.40 (talk) 18:26, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:EL please. —fetch·comms 18:32, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 115.117.147.40, 15 May 2010 

message: I have some more information and images of jammu which are useful.
Coolansh63 (talk) 07:14, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. You can upload those image taking a look here, provided they don't infringe copyright.   Salvio ( Let's talk 'bout it!) 10:23, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Coolansh63, 11 July 2010 

message: http://www.jammu.com/ is a website based on comprehensive information on Jammu – Travel Destinations, Tourists Attractions, Festivals, Shrines, Current Events, Accommodation, and much more
Rajansachdev (talk) 05:02, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This website needs to be considered. It provides additional information about sacred place or shrines, festivals, fairs and tourist attractions in Jammu. However, its reliability is questionable. I can't find contact details on the website. It doesn't appear to be backed by an organisation. I personally wouldn't add it.  Davtra  (talk)  08:22, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Rajansachdev, 14 July 2010 

message: Jammu                       	Jammu
Main languages         	Dogri, Urdu, Hindi
Area                        	32,059 km2 http://mha.nic.in/uniquepage.asp?Id_Pk=306
Population (2001)           	49,29,335Jammu & Kashmīr - City Population - Cities, Towns & Provinces - Statistics & Ma
Birth rate (2001)           	
Death rate (2001)           	
Infant mortality rate (1981)	
Website                     	http://jammu.nic.in/
The table here on the right was in the article. This table seems not be able to difference between city and district. Also it is not in line with the tables used by cities and states in india. -- Tomdo08 (talk) 02:33, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jammu district 

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message: There is a line in opening paragraph that Jammu is officially called Jammu-Tawi, it is not the case Jammu-Tawi is name of Railway station and not an official name of Jammu.
Mukulrajsingh (talk) 01:24, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 2 April 2012 

message: 223.184.99.71 (talk) 06:27, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. You have made no request. Rivertorch (talk) 10:57, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 5 July 2012 

message: The map of the districts within Jammu and Kashmir contains an error: The coloring indicates that Poonch (number 6) is part of Kashmir, while it is actually part of Jammu.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.248.202.239 (talk) 00:51, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coloring on J&K districts map 

message: Education 
Govt. Maulana Azad Memorial College, Jammu
www.mamcollegejammu.org/
Degree Colleges (Govt.)
<ref> source http://www.jammuuniversity.in 
SNO 
1 Govt. Degree College, Bhaderwah 951997-244155 
2 Govt. Degree College, Billawar  951921-234519 
3 Govt. Degree College, Kathua  951922-234315  2592005  
4 Govt. Degree College, Poonch  951965-220231 
5 Govt. Degree College, Rajouri  951962-262510  263682 
6 Govt. Degree College Udhampur (Boys)  951992-270239  
7 Govt. Degree College, Udhampur (Women)  951992-270681 
8 Govt. Degree College, Reasi  951991-245455  951991-244747 
9 Govt. Degree College, Doda  951996-233552  951996-244552  
10 Govt. Degree College, Kishtwar  951995-259513   
11 Govt. College for Women, Gandhi Nagar, Jammu  2435158  2433614  
12  Govt. College for Women, Parade Ground, Jammu  2544305  2477428  
13  G.G.M. Science College, Jammu  2578189  2532389   
14  Govt. M.A.M. College, Jammu  2453497  2475607  
15  S.P.M. College of Commerce, Jammu  2544321  2579223  
16  Govt. Degree College, Ramban    
17  Govt. Degree College, Ramnagar    
18  Govt. Degree College, Mendhar    
19  Govt. Degree College, Thanamandi    
20  Govt. Degree College, Akhnoor    
21  Govt. Degree College, R.S Pura    
22  Govt. Degree College, Samba    
23  Govt. Degree College, Hiranagar    
24  Govt. Degree College, Basholi    
25  Govt. Women Degree College, Kathua  
B.Ed Colleges
 source http://www.jammuuniversity.in 
SNO 
1  MIER College of Education  0191-2546078  9419130484  
2 MC  Khalsa College of Education  0191-2546711 
3 Dogra College of Education  01923-220893  9419186859 
4 N.S.M. College of Education  0191-2554601  9419191001 
5 Vivekananda College of Education  01922-285333  019417285111 
6 Shivalik College of Education  01992-270474  9419160800 
7 Divya College of Education  0191-2262956 
8 Chenab College of Education  0191-2480873 
9 Luthra College of Educaton  0191-2503956  9419189616 
10 KCS College of Education for Women  0191-2592952  9419184670 
11 Trikuta College of Education  0191-2594262 
12 Adarsh College of Education  01923-242816  9419182014 
13 Tariq College of Eduoaticn  01962-2483129  9419170424 
14 Kalra College of Education  01992-270267  9419161260 
15 New Millennium National College of Education  0191-2460572  9419139552 
16 Sher-e-Kashmir College of Education  0191-2263462  9419131750 
17 Bhargava College of Education  01923-246169  9419183488 
18 National College of Education  0191-2604464 
19 Calliope College of Education  0191-253820  9419185181 
20 New Gandhi Memorial College of Education  01923-263083  9419135047 
21 Swami Vishwatamanand Saraswatl College of Education, Sundarbani  01960-234952 
22 Atman College of Education  0191-2481971  9419197503 
23 Islamia Faridiya College of Education  01995-260140-41 
24 Havard College of Education  0191-2263790
25 CMH College of Education  0191-2565283  9419116551 
26 KC College of Education  0191-2502006 
27 Guru Nanak College of Education  0191-2480004  9419182707 
28 R.K. College of Education  01923-222825  9419140264  
29 Ashoka College of Education  01922-238816  9419194779  
30 Guru Gang Dev Ji College of Education  01922-255167  
31 B.N College of Education    9419190310 
32 New Age College of Education  01922-266389  9419150939 
33 Sai Shyam College of Education  0191-2644319  9419197037  
34 Sh. Vaishno Devi College of Education  01991-244273  9419143230 
35 Ramisht College of Education  01921-251929 
36 J.K. College of Education  0191-2480070 
37 Sant Mela Singh College of Education  0191-2430346 
38 Himalayan College of Education  01962-262320 9419184689  
39 Poonch College of Education  01965-222729  9419147693 
40 K.C. Gurukul College of Education  0191-0506033  9419187344 
41 Baba Farid College of Education  0192-286689  
43 Kalra College of Education, Patnitop  01992-288222  9419161260 
44 Vimal Muni College of Education  01923-234120  9419188083 
45 Thakur Dharam Singh College of Education  01922233263  9419150930  
46 Rajiv Gandhi Memorial College of Education  01922-235503  9419160953  
47 Shirdee College of Education  0191-2472369  9419186369  
48 Bhartiya College of Education  01992-276068  9419151226  
49 Surya College of Education  01922-234284  9419151884 
50 Ranjit College of Education  0191-2482402  9419122707  
51 Tagore College of Education  0191-2642213  9419198621  
52 Kawa College of Education  0191-2307838  9419189855  
53 Saraswati College of Education  0191-233733  9419184111 
54 Hill People College of Education  0191-2623655  9419180906 
55 Sacred Head College of Education  0191-2596045  9419145279 
56 Beacon College of Education  0191-2623100  9419112353  
57 Bhai Beer Singh College of Education   9419197619  
58  Bhagat Kabir College of Education  01922-286689  
59 Durga College of Education for Women  01991-233733  9419145879 
60 Jan College of Education  0191-2623716  9419128186  
61 Handa College of Education  0191-2307571  9419135062  
62 Taawish College of Education   9419192192 
63 Galaxy College of Education  0191-2465559  9419181721  
64 Cosmic College of Education    9419151019 
65 K.C. Minerva College of Education  01923-234072 9419103035  
66 Satyam College of Education, Kathua   0191-2565288    
67 Lal Bhadur College of Education, Katua    9419108674 
68 Bharat College of Education, Kathua    9419189033 
69 R.S College of Education, Kathua    9419150855 
70 R.M College of Education, Sainik Colony, Jammu    9419181460 
71 New Modern College of Education, Sainik Colony, Jammu    9419376470 
72 Thakur Anant Singh College of Education, Jammu    9419123310 
73 Guru Teg Bhadur College of Education, Lakhanpur, Kathua    9419304369 
74 Shri Shri Parmahansa Yogananda College of Education, Kathua 
Medical / Ayurvedic Colleges
SNO 
 NAME OF THE COLLEGE 
 OFFICE PHONE 
  
 
1  Government Medical College, Jammu 
 2584234, 2584247, 2584290-94 (PBX) 
 2586495, 9419180707 
 
2 Acharya Sri Chander College of Medical Science & Hospital,Sidhra, Jammu 
 2662270, 2662360, 2662536-39 (PBX) 
 2430389, 2431035, 9419183349 
 
3 Institute of Ayurveda and Research, Nardhani Raipur (Kot-Bhalwal Road), Jammu 
 2594262, 2597868 
 2591014, 9419191536, 9419193935 
Please update the educational institutes of Jammu  source http://www.jammuuniversity.in  
Asheemdatta (talk) 16:27, 22 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: , Wikipedia is not a directory, it's an encyclopedia, and it cannot contain the list of all the institutes of any city. Faizan -Let's talk! 14:16, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 22 April 2013 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: , can you explain where in the source is this content supported?
-- Kautilya3 (talk) 09:34, 14 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kashmiri Muslims in the Jammu Division? 

message: The map used in the article needs updating as it is obsolete and doesn't reflect the contemporary status of districts and boundaries of the division. Just for example there's no mention or outline of districts Samba and Ramban, the latter being the link between Jammu and Kashmir division. I request fellow editors to please upload a new and update map for the division.
Also, I do not feel that there is a need for uploading the whole map of J&K including the disputes, this article is only about Jammu Division and therefore, the map should reflect that only. If need be other map can be added too. pinging    for inputs.AnM2002 (talk) 13:47, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see any problem with the map. Can we give up all these political gimmicks, and focus on real information? There is a lot going in the world right now. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 14:38, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

text: @User:Kautilya3 Don't pass gibberish statements if you can't properly infer the matter/language. I clearly, mentioned in the beginning of my discussion that the map does not show the newly created Districts like Ramban,Samba. Is that a political gimmick ? Being an old user it doesn't befit u to have this repeated haphazard/unthoughtful approach in discussions.  AnM2002 (talk) 15:10, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: @User:Kautilya3 the second part is just an opinion of mine, which I wanted to discuss  , rather than selectively pitching it as a political gimmick present something substantial that befits your edit count. Why do you always jump the gun when it comes to discussing something? these might help (WP:GF) (WP:BITE) (WP:EQ)AnM2002 (talk) 15:15, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  what is the fun of having a map about a division which doesn't reflect the administrative subdivisons correctly? Is this real information ? AnM2002 (talk) 15:20, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, I checked the map and saw Jammu Division marked by orange boundary. The map is not entirely obsolete as geographic area still remains the same after the formation of new districts. But replacing it with an updated one shall indeed be helpful. I think updating it is a good idea, but still map should depict the entire union territory of Jammu and Kashmir with Jammu Division marked with some other color to make things clear. , you may proceed, per :WP:BOLD. I'm quite busy these days and can't perform major edits. —  The Ultimate  Let's Talk 21:51, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  thanks for your inputs. I am not against displaying the whole map, just wanted a more Informative one. 
AnM2002, before talking about placing the map in the article, why don't we all (you) actually just create the map. This in itself will a useful contribution and simplify the next stage of the discussion for you? DTM (talk) 06:39, 1 June 2020 (UTC)

text: AnM2002 Give me some days, my to-do list is already ten lifetimes long. That is if no one does it first of course. Cheers. DTM (talk) 11:07, 2 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Map image being used is obsolete needs replacement. 

message: , I am not confident that your edits were genuinely regarding the Jammu Division, not those of the Jammu District. For instance, you removed Kashmiri as a language spoken in the Division. You have also added "Duggar Pradesh" as a local name. You really need to demonstrate that each and every one of your edits pertain to the entire Division. Otherwise, I am minded to revert all of them. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 08:23, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jammu Division vs. District 

message: I have deleted the following statement from lead paragraph (but only after correcting the citation templates:
:The Chenab Valley and Pir Panchal are other important regions in the Jammu division. Date possibly 3 October 2015.
I looked at the Greater Kashmir article cited.  Though it mentions the Chenab Valley and Pir Panchal, there is no clear and direct statement in the Greater Kashmir article that supports the Wikipedia sentence. The Frontline article is behind a paywall. It must have been published on or before 3 October 2015, because that is the first time the web archive has a return for it (the return states that access is forbidden). Given that the Greater Kashmir article does not support the statement it is cited for, it is hard to have much confidence that the Frontline article does.  If anyone has access to the Frontline article and can tell us how it supports the statement, please feel free to put the statement back into the article (though without the citation to the Greater Kashmir article.-- Toddy1 (talk) 16:06, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: There are proposals to give them "Hill Development Councils".  -- Kautilya3 (talk) 09:43, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if the hill development councils happen, we can say that they have hill development councils.  That does not support the claim that they are "important regions".-- Toddy1 (talk) 09:48, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Chenab Valley and Pir Panchal are other important regions in the Jammu division." not directly supported by source 

message: An IP editor has objected to the following sentence, giving the reason: citation is false:
: It is also known as Duggar Pradesh.
The link is a dead link.  I cannot find an archived copy on web.archive.org.  A search on the newspaper website did not produce a result. -- Toddy1 (talk) 07:35, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a copy available at Early Times. I think it is better to reword the sentence as "The region was historically known as Duggar Pradesh". -- Kautilya3 (talk) 10:55, 13 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duggar Pradesh