Talk:Richard Deacon (actor)

message: In hindsight, one can pick up on Richard Deacon being gay from the vicious ad libs of homophobic Morey Amsterdam which were allowed to air on The Dick Van Dyke Show. Dick Kimball (talk) 17:47, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: But Descon himself came out, in a 1970s Interview published in the 1996 book Hollywood Gays. Moncrief (talk) 13:11, 12 April 2013 (UTC)

text: The book Hollywood Gays was and is a fringe source.  What is an author going to do next?  Research and write about Hollywood professionals who eat butter pecan ice cream during their leisure time? 2603:8000:18F0:410:245D:BC28:9B5D:3959 (talk) 10:46, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Life 

message: In no way, shape or form did Morey Amsterdam hurl ANY gay bashing hidden or in the open at Richard Deacon in TDVDS. The only thing he continually made fun of was his baldness, his size, his spectacles or the fact that he thought Mel was stupid and a flunky for Alan. This entire page of conversation has nothing to do with Deacon, and should be deleted by an administrator, as the person who started it is obviously a bothersome Troll.  Pookerella (talk) 03:03, 4 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Morey Amsterdam 

message: Richard Deacon publicly came out as gay. Why is there no mention of this? (92.4.11.203 (talk) 20:41, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not true.  The book was issued by a vanity publisher more than ten years after his death. The author can say anything he wants about a dead person.Myra or someone (talk) 22:32, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gay 

message: Like his character in "The Dick Van Dyke Show", Deacon was Jewish. (86.137.48.36 (talk) 21:44, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this supported by a legitimate source?  No one has added it to the article.Myra or someone (talk) 22:32, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Richard Deacon was Jewish 

message: Does the citation support that statement?--Malerooster (talk) 00:12, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Malerooster, I removed "forced to be" because that was  added by an IP. But regarding you removing the gay actor category, is this because you question whether it's more so speculation that he was gay, like the speculation regarding whether James Dean was straight, gay, or bisexual? Both of the sources do state that Deacon was gay; the second source states that he was closeted, which supports the "closeted" usage. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 07:51, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Both sources are fringe sources.  They are books issued by vanity publishers.  In Wikipedia, every vanity-published book is a fringe source.  Your contrast between Richard Deacon and James Dean is nonsensical because very few people are interested in Deacon and a lot of people are interested in Dean.  We need dispute resolution here.Myra or someone (talk) 22:36, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  You need to check out WP:RS. Both sources are university publishers, not vanity presses. - LuckyLouie (talk) 00:22, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

text: University presses are generally RS. Certainty the NY one is, it is a respected academic publisher.Slatersteven (talk) 14:55, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither of those are vanity presses. Myra: What on Earth makes you think they are???? --Orange Mike | Talk 18:44, 26 August 2018 (UTC)

text: Where, exactly, is it established that the University Press of Mississippi is a "vanity press"? I'm not seeing anything to that effect in their submission guidelines. In fact, it explicitly says they're not-for-profit. --tronvillain (talk) 19:34, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: LuckyLouie, Slatersteven, Orangemike and  Tronvillain, just letting you know that  made this edit. The removal of unsourced material is, of course, fine. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 06:28, 24 October 2019 (UTC)

text: Regarding this revert, I removed the unsourced bit. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 04:32, 25 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  was forced to be a closeted gay man