Talk:New Wave (science fiction)

message: Yo dawg I heard you like quotes. What makes a man turn neutral? (talk) 03:52, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Seriously though, does it need this many in order to fully explain the phenomenon of New Wave science fiction? Does it even do that, with all these quotes? What makes a man turn neutral? (talk) 03:53, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, there does seem to be a lot, but this is a particular ‘style’ which I think is quite common. You ask: “Does it fully explain the phenomenon of New Wave science fiction?”  Probably not. Whole books and chapters of books from which I quoted have attempted this, I only intended to describe the New Wave and offer a ‘neutral point of view’ on it. Is there a part of the phenomenon you think I have neglected or have left out? I could have written an essay on the subject and paraphrased a lot of what I quoted, but inevitably ‘original research’ and my opinions would emerge. My intention was to write an encyclopedia entry and not an essay that offered ‘my full explanation’ of the phenomenon. This was, I think, my first lengthy contribution to WP – maybe it needs a rewrite!  Any suggestions for this? I used narrative text to link the quotations as best I could, but this is difficult to achieve in all cases; do you know if my presentation style breaks or bends any WP recommended format/style? (If so grateful for links).Carey McCarthy (talk) 20:23, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This article really has too many quotes, at a point to which it becomes impossible to read the remaining text in a continuous manner and get an idea on the topic. --MathsPoetry (talk) 11:06, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

text: Let's try to remain civil. That's all good advice, if aggressively delivered. Euchrid (talk) 21:52, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've made some changes, shortening some quotes and working them into the text more. There's more that I want to do, but I'm going to work slowly to give people time to discuss or make their own changes.Euchrid (talk) 23:41, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Further condensing has been done. My plan, in case anyone is reading this, is to condense what's currently in the article, as the enormous block quotes have bloated it completely out of control. Once the information actually in the article is in a managable form the article itself will likely be half of its current size; at that point I want to go back through and add more. The result should be an article the same length as what is presently there, but twice as useful and informative.Euchrid (talk) 04:39, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The shore isn't so deserted as it may seem, you may be willing to check the statistics. Do you have any plans for making neighbours to that related lonely link related, Feminist science fiction ? --Askedonty (talk) 07:44, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Euchrid, I'm not convinced at all that Gold's work was to lead inevitably to the New Wave. --Askedonty (talk) 20:52, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Nor am I, but that's what the source says. Tracing the origins of any genre are difficult, and there isn't a great deal written on the New Wave. It would be great if more sources were added, though. In truth I've gotten a bit distracted from this article recently.Euchrid (talk) 22:34, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

text: @Ashley Pomeroy; we did that, but you didn't see, because many of our powers are in fluids. New-wave superficially, and perhaps artificially differed from other sci-fi that it was not exposed to being called a subgenre. Cyberpunk may perhaps be the outcome of  that. The real thing is better described by its authors themselves (google does not let me access introduction page 13 directly, sorry) --Askedonty (talk) 09:41, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: The article says it was Judith Merril who coined the name, but she says she never used it (reference given). Since I have no copy of january 1966 magazine of F&SF, I have left these contradictory pieces of information together. --MathsPoetry (talk) 11:06, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That sentence should be reformulated. Wolfe does certainly not say that Merril coined the name ( ISBN 0814208924 for only one short example ), he must be stating that it is because of what Merril wrote that new wave became associated to SF; which gave rise to the furor of many authors who did not want to be recategorized by critics on an outer edge of SF. Merril's "defense" by contrast, relies on the fact that she didn't use the word herself. --Askedonty (talk) 09:53, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Article says "... who used the term to refer to ...", as if she used the "New Wave" term, which she denies. That should definitely be reformulated. --MathsPoetry (talk) 13:34, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
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message: Hi! I just participated in a major rewrite of Mundane Science Fiction. I will now be rewriting New Wave. This major rewrite will take approximately one week and will be structured as follows:
1) Day 1. Flag page with appropriate templates. 
2) Day 2. Add 'Under construction template'. Restructure page according to Snarkibartfast's suggestion and current best practices on similar pages.
3) Days 3-4. Addition of material.
4) Days 5-6. Cut down and restructure.
5) Day 7. Remove templates; achieve consensus on whether results are satisfactory, re-appraise page quality status.
Please feel free to participate! Johncdraper (talk) 11:57, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks but no - I have no prior history with this article. CapnZapp (talk) 12:28, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Major Rewrite

message: I am requesting comments on progress so far. Johncdraper (talk) 12:46, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Launch Status Check 

message: Rewrite and third-party peer review completed. See my Talk. Requesting uninvolved contributor to initiate article promotion peer review process to GA.  Might you be interested in taking a look? Johncdraper (talk) 15:57, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks but no - I have no prior history with this article. CapnZapp (talk) 12:28, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status Update 

message: Not sure it was there or I’m misremembering something. If there is not, I believe there should be. No buts. Thank you 172.248.174.74 (talk) 16:40, 15 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is a List of Authors?