Talk:Project Runway season 4

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BetacommandBot (talk) 17:42, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. --MASEM 17:59, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Gallery images Episode 01 pic01.jpg

message: I'm a bit confused. This page lists the epidsode 2 name as Money Changes Everything, but the Bravo website lists it as I Started Crying. Where did this name come from? CMacMillan (talk) 20:49, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It appeared in the on-screen viewing guide in some cable systems. It did in mine. My guess is that Bravo changed the title shortly before airing. --Crunch (talk) 00:07, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Episode 2 website

message: According to the Official Bravo TV Web Site, the title of Episode 1 was "Sew Us What You Got," not  "Sew Me What You Got" and not  "Show Us What You've Got."  I understand the last variation is grammatically correct, but unless or until Bravo changes the episode titles, let's make sure this article reflects the actual episode titles. --Crunch (talk) 00:04, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode 1 title 

message: I think the note is fine and that the word BACK should be removed. Look at Project Runway Canada. Marie-Genevive (or something like that) was out, and then came back. Depending on Chris' status, it should say HIGH, IN, LOW, or OUT. Not BACK. :) Trevor "Tinkleheimer" Haworth 03:37, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Adjusted the grid the way they did it last season. This way the chronology of the episodes is more clear I think. Slaapwel (talk) 22:30, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The chronology of the episodes isn't important, who was currently in the competition is more important. See Project Runway Canada (Marie Genevive) and Top Chef (Season 1)(Andrea ((I think that's her name))).Trevor "Tinkleheimer" Haworth 00:47, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree and undid your changes again. Your grid didn't even mention episode 4. The grid how it is now shows clearly who left when  and it's still clear who is in the competition. Slaapwel (talk) 08:23, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

text: I think between the table footnote and episode description that it is clear Chris was eliminated in Ep4, returned in Ep5.  I do not believe it is appropriate to stick Chris at the bottom, however, just to have the clear stair-step look of the OUTs or the numerical order in the "eliminated" column as it shows some bias - ok, yes, Chris was given a second reprive, but as the show is treating him, he's just now a valid contender as the others, what happened in past episodes doesn't matter.  I recommend keeping all remaining contestants in alpha order. --MASEM 16:37, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chris and Episode 5 

message: In the grid the results of a sixth episode are shown yet I´m sure it has not aired.
On top of that there is no discription of the episode in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.232.124.38 (talk) 17:03, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode 6? 

message: Currently, the grid column for each episode includes an orange background and "LOW" to indicate that a designer was not eliminated but was in the "bottom two."  However, is there any source that indicates that the last two designers on the runway are actually the bottom two?  The three lowest scorers are identified, and only one is eliminated.  But when they tell one of the three lowest scorers that he or she is still "in," I've never heard them state that this person actually had the highest score among the three low scorers, just that they did not have the lowest score.  If they producers feel that it would make for more dramatic television to have it down to the actual bottom scorer and the third-lowest scorer, they could have the judges announce that the second-lowest scorer is "in" first; there's no reason they can't do this, and in fact American Idol and Dancing with the Stars are both known to treat eliminations similarly.  --DavidK93 (talk) 14:00, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In previous seasons, Heidi has stated "Blah and Blah, you have the lowest 2 scores..." and then cited the reasons for this.  My recollection to date for this season is that she has not said this.  If she did, I would be ok with the bottom 2, but as it is not said, it cannot be verified.  I have tried to revert this but someone keeps undoing it. --MASEM 00:02, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, it cannot be verified, but it has been stated before. The show format hasn't changed and it IS obvious. Ignore all rules, i also stand by the orange background.--Yamanbaiia(free hugs!) 00:28, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

text: I agree with WP:IAR here.Trevor "Tinkleheimer" Haworth 06:50, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Orange Background and "Bottom Two"

message: My understanding is that, because the Bryant Park show actually took place prior to the airing of this episode, all of the designers who were still competing as of the end of the previous episode showed collections at Bryant Park, even though two of them (Sweet P and either Chris or Rami) had been eliminated; those two acted as decoys, so that the Bryant Park show wouldn't reveal the actual final three, weeks before the episode in which they were determined was to air.  Can anyone find a source to verify this, so that this information can be added to the article?  --DavidK93 (talk) 15:00, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode 11 / Bryant Park 

message: We should add this to the article. It is an extension of Season 4.  <3 Tinkleheimer TALK!! 02:47, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's Sew Not Over