Talk:Dead Space (2008 video game)

message: ...the ship's captain was actually an agent of the Church of Unitology, a large and influential religious cult.
He was never an agent; the captain was directing an illegal operation for a company (mining) and only AFTER he found the marker did the church become interested. And the church isn't a cult, its an established religion.
The Ishimura was assigned to retrieve the religion's most valuable relic, the Red Marker, from Aegis VII, under the guise of an illegal mining operation.
Again, it wasn't a guise, this was the Ishimura's original purpose. the captain said so himself:
http://deadspace.wikia.com/wiki/Captain%27s_Report
I don't know whose putting false info in the plot summary, but it has to be corrected.
Dr. Terrance Kyne, the Chief Science Officer, tried to relieve him of duty, only to accidentally kill him in a struggle.
This I have only a small qualm with; it has to do with the video of the killing. It cuts off so you can't see if Kyne accidentally killed the Captain or if it was intentional. Kyne slowly deteriorates mentally, so it might have been on purpose. I think the writers left that video vaguely on purpose.71.190.188.156 (talk) 03:57, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Wrong info in Plot Summary

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replies: text: I should point out that this refers to an old file. I uploaded a new image and wasn't aware of this old one, so named it Deadspace1.jpg. The new image has all the appropriate tags and complies with all the various guidelines (fingers crossed). JMalky (talk) 14:40, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Deadspace1.jpg

message: This statement should have a citation.  Lgascoig 23:26, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation for Unreal Tech 3

message: I am curious to know if the name Isaac Clark is a reference to Isaac Asimov and Arthur C Clarke. If so, I think this should be noted in the trivia notes. I'd add it, but I don't have any confirmation of it as fact. Anyone else know? Test0zero 14:23, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name issues. citations? 

message: The horror section sounds like it has been written by an unaware marketing department.
I'm not sure of the protocols, but should it be deleted or sourced as a quotation.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xennex (talk • contribs) 15:26, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Horror? 

message: This section cites no sources, and I think it should be cut down/removed. It's unnecessary info at this stage. JMalky (talk) 20:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Weapons, Armour and Abilities

message: Hi, could folk please fix the problems flagged by a cleanup template before removing it. The development section is in really poor condition, and needs to be flagged as such for the moment. JMalky (talk) 08:45, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: I suggest we split this off on to another page. These storylines don't form part of the game's plot, and there is already a 'Synopsis' section. JMalky (talk) 13:29, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead Space Cartoons

message: Could I suggest the image on this page instead of the game informer cover? I just think it would look slightly neater. JMalky (talk) 14:29, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, thanks! JMalky (talk) 15:21, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cover Image

message: Anyone heard anything about the pc hardware requirements for this game?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.2.35.88 (talk) 03:18, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: System Requirements

message: How come there is no release date for europe? It says 24th Oct on Play.com for UK date, obviously that is not a valid source but I cannot search the actual website as I am at work. Would someone be able to find out and put the info up? Thanks Dark verdant (talk) 11:33, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! Dark verdant (talk) 12:26, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Date Europe 

message: On Xbox live it says that this game is to be directed by James Wen (the director of the Saw franchise), but I cant seem to find anything to confirm or deny that. [For anyone that wants to look that up, I found that on the "shocktober" advertisement under "spine-chilling games" (or something like that). Just highlight the "Dead Space Trailer" and it'll bring up a little box of information.]  —Preceding unsigned comment added by AsSheFelliSmiled (talk • contribs) 01:43, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I think I figured it out. First, the name is James Wan. Second, he didn't direct the game, nor is he attached to it in any way with the exception of a trailer for Dead Space dubbed "Loved Ones." Supposedly Wan directed a trailer for Dead Space that had been released on Xbox Live/Playstation Network. Here is my source: http://www.joystiq.com/2008/07/12/saw-director-takes-a-stab-at-dead-space-with-loved-ones-traile/ Also, you can check out his IMDb page and see there are no mentions of a connection to Dead Space. Hope this helps. rpgod2 (talk) 02:33, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

text: I don't know how I could have made that reply any more straightforward. I looked into the topic and reported my findings. That isn't condescending. rpgod2 (talk) 20:09, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  James Wen? 

message: There are a few things in the "plot" section that I don't remember coming out in the game...could someone please put some put some citations?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.101.88.22 (talk) 03:58, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Everything looks about right to me, although there are zero citations, and every other sentence is a run-on. What in particular were you talking about? rpgod2 (talk) 06:28, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Is there any good reason why the entire plot section has been removed? rpgod2 (talk) 22:18, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot Citations, Please 

message: Uhhhhh yeah? --70.50.173.174 (talk) 04:39, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uhhhh....where did the whole article go? 

message: While Concordance does sound more likely, I have heard it is called the Concodrance E.C. - both in the PS3 trophies and also, in the opening greeting video onboard the ship, it sounds a lot like Concodrance. 86.141.126.129 (talk) 20:46, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Concordance. I am relatively sure of this. I believe it is also referenced as such in the comic series. I wish I had a source. Sorry. rpgod2 (talk) 23:40, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Edit - Try this. Might not be official, but it is one source. http://www.bloodygoodhorror.com/bgh/features/10/02/2008/comics-creepshow-9-dead-space rpgod2 (talk) 23:40, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say the first because when run through spell check the first spelling is correct-Altman Be Praised (talk) 02:47, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Dead Space website lists it as Concordance. The trophy/achievement spelling is just a typo. rpgod2 (talk) 02:28, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Concordance or Concodrance?

message: A section dealing with game control, key bindings and sequences would be very nice.  The control in this game is quite unusual.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.179.217.154 (talk) 09:32, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe also mentioning the major control problems on the PC version (can't define cursor keys for movement, mouse lag with Vsync turned on, having to redefine gamepad controls through a text file)! Dave-ros (talk) 12:29, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Control Section 

message: I added a CN on the statement that DRM had caused the game to have a low ranking score on Amazon. I naturally followed the links given, one of which is to a forum post about DRM by some developer while the other was a link to Amazon. The game does have a two-star score, but it is not uncommonly low compared to the game that it, on Amazon, is being compared to. Far Cry 2 has received 2 stars and Fallout 3, 3 stars, both highly acclaimed games. 
While it is certainly possible that these games' Amazon scores are indeed because they are copy-protected, it cannot be said from comments and there mere scores on that webpage to be the result of a coordinated complaint about DRM and it is up to those who make a claim to support it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by PerEdman (talk • contribs) 11:47, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  DRM 

message: There seems to be a debate going on in the Necromorph section about Dr. Mercer's creation, but he simply calls it "The Patient from the colony," in Mercers journal from CH. 2. In one of the mission objectives it is referred to as Tyrant. Officially, Tyrant should take precedence over the name Regenerater, simply because he's not even called a Regenerator anywhere in the game. Let's keep it that way.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Legsofdoom (talk • contribs) 02:56, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tyrant VS Regenerater 

message: The last paragraph of the gameplay section is clearly a cut-and-paste job from the AB-Games website.  I wouldn't be the least bit surprised to find out that it's also Original Research. RlndGunslinger (talk) 12:05, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact, after some additional checking, the entire section seems copied. RlndGunslinger (talk) 12:11, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Judging by the [citation needed] in the text on that site, it has been copied from here, not the other way around. Someoneanother 21:07, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Cutting and Pasting

message: Please refrain from adding any other types. The information contained there now is enough. I know it appears to be missing Twitchers and the Enhanced Necromorphs, but if you look closely, Twitchers are mentioned in the Slasher entry in detail and any Necromorph with an enhanced form states so in its description. The link given beneath them will provide anyone curious enough with extra information.
Thanks. 77.96.36.254 (talk) 18:01, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Different Types of Necromorphs' 

message: Just to mention - somewhere in the middle of the game Nicole can be seen as she operates the console to open the door (you must protect her for some time, shooting across the chasm). This, Nicole cannot be just imagination, she must have been real for some point (alive or not).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.223.127.238 (talk) 17:00, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: However the video shows her killing herself which would suggest that she was not alive when isaac came aboard. The marker was casuing him to have delusions so this could have been any member of the Ishimura made to look like Nicole so that Isaac would try harder to protect him/her. Or maybe the marker created a physical image of her to help him. Dark verdant (talk) 09:57, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Additionally, if one were to take the first letter of every chapter, the combined letters spell "Nicole is Dead." http://boards.ign.com/dead_space/b23951/172684848/p4/?55 shows this clearly. Luna RainHowLCry 02:46, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nicole is dead 

message: Wii version has been announced, albeit in a single sentence http://kotaku.com/5145788/dead-space-wii-announced Golden Dragoon (talk) 23:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii 

message: someone add it
http://www.psxextreme.com/ps3-news/4560.html
--82.17.80.241 (talk) 21:25, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Direct source (Shacknews) cited. Spiritaway5177 (talk) 02:07, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  1 million sales 

message: I think this is game guide content, as per Wikipedia Guidelines. We have StrategyWiki or Deep Space wiki for that. I'm planning to delete the section and leave it to a few sentences describing how some of these enemy types affect the gameplay. Anyone feel otherwise, please discuss. Anyone feel like fixing this, go ahead! Spiritaway5177 (talk) 02:22, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I already deleted an identical (in subject and style, if not in wording) section and turned around a few weeks later and saw that this one has been stuck in. The Necromorphs section within gameplay covers the bases nicely. This kind of listing is not only against WP:NOT but also against video game guidelines (WP:VGSCOPE). So yeah, please do. Someoneanother 03:26, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Types of Necromorph section 

message: I'm sorry, I've looked and looked, but have no idea what this is. I've played it on thw PS3 enough to get the platinum trophy and didn't see these guys.  Am I going mental?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.136.118 (talk) 12:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thrasher 

message: How are we going to do the plot?  There was a detailed plot summary - with very good spelling and grammer - on this article for MONTHS, and it has been cut down and replaced by one that I found much harder to follow (predominantly due to typos, unusual word choices, and what could be interpreted as either very complex sentence structure or confusing run-on sentences).  Not to insult those that tried to make the plot summary more compact and concise, but some editing would have been nice before the revised plot summary was put in (at the very least). I'm not really a fan of the cut down version, I found the more detail summary more enjoyable and informative, but that sentiment is secondary to the readability of the section dedicated to the plot.
202.226.209.70 (talk) 12:01, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Cleaned it up a tad.Mr T (Based) (talk) 16:14, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

text: If 'concise' is the key here, then I think the Characters section is ridiculously long and detailed. Suggestions? Spiritaway5177 (talk) 05:53, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The question is whether they stand as separate entities from the plot, in this case they don't IMO. Half of the characters there are bit-parts and some like Temple and Dr Cross are irrelevant to the main plot. Cross and the Captain are never seen alive (merely seen or heard via logs), the player's relationship with Temple involves listening to him padding around the ship a bit via logs and watching him getting stabbed in the forehead by the nutjob doctor, who himself is a bit-player. If the relevant ones were merged into the plot summary we'd have a tight summary without the flowery trimmings and a much more cohesive article. Both the meatsacks aboard the Kellion who get slaughtered once the opening finishes were listed as characters, which is a good indicator of how overblown the section is. Someoneanother 08:31, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For starters, I reduced the Characters section to the relevant characters; haven't beaten the game yet, but I think Isaac, Kendra, Hammond, the evil dude, the crazy doctor, and Nicole should be enough. Also removed the background story that is revealed after beating the game, as this is "trivial" and irrelevant to plot unless particularly noted in the sequel. Spiritaway5177 (talk) 21:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Nothing wrong with keeping is concise. And you think Britannica would even touch this subject? Яehevkor ✉ 01:57, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot Summary 

message: There should be a spoiler tag in the plot summary section, I'm pretty sure there is a specific tag that is supposed to be used. I would add it myself but I don't know what that tag is or how I would find and use it. 209.52.202.67 (talk) 05:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoiler Tag in Plot Summary. 

message: Just wondering if the last sentence regarding the fate of Isaac in the characters section constitutes Original Research. As we do not know what happened should we speculate on what could have happened? Dark verdant (talk) 10:57, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fate of Isaac OR? 

message: I have almost finished collecting all the achievement points for Dead Space and I have noticed that tehre are less than the usual 1000 that are standard for all X-box games.
Is it known if there will be further downloadable content that will bring this number up to the full 1000 or push it to the 1250 (the last 250 being the chargable ones)?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Pontifactus (talk • contribs) 09:47, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you tried looking on the Dead Space forums? I'm sure if there was anything coming up there would be discussion on there. Dark verdant (talk) 15:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further Downloadable content? 

message: someone add it
http://www.videogamer.com/news/dead_space_sales_around_1_4_million.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.17.80.241 (talk) 13:49, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  1.4 million sales 

message: Removed the reference to a "continent-sized" portion of the planet. You could clearly see to the other side of the hole in the final level.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.240.84.215 (talk) 02:20, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Continent-sized portion of the planet 

message: Something should be added about Antony Johnston and Warren Ellis writing the story and script for the game, they're both award-winning writers which should be notable enough (especially since writing credits on video games aren't that "big"), and have done some interviews if quotes are needed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.207.34 (talk) 13:52, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you link us, please? Geoff B (talk) 22:31, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Some links: http://www.sci-fi-london.com/news/article/1245793934/6/antony-johnston-interview   http://www.warrenellis.com/?p=6274   http://uk.pc.ign.com/articles/909/909306p2.html   http://www.comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=12439  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.4.254 (talk) 23:04, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you!  Geoff B (talk) 23:18, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writers in Game Development 

message: The whole Nicole thing seems to me to be like a reference to the Polish novel and subsequent film adaptations. Notable the first of these adaptations was by Andrei Tarkovsky, considered to be one of the greatest arthouse directors of all time. He also directed the movie Stalker, based off the novel Roadside Picnic. The movie and novel are both major influences in the game S.T.A.L.K.E.R.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.106.165.83 (talk) 15:14, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Allusion to Solaris 

message: Again, I have reverted the additions of links to this website for 2 reasons, per WP:ELNO only wikis with a substantial number of editors and editing history can be permitted. Few few wikis fall into that criteria, this is not one of them. Secondly, user Subtank is an admin at the wiki and should not be adding these links as it is a conflict of interest. I have raised this issue here for other edits to weigh in, it is clear in my mind that this link does not follow the criteria, but I, like Subtank, am just one person; so there should be a consensus. I strongly discouraged Subtank from adding further links, and I'd link to see the issue resolved before any further mainspace edits are made. Cheers. Rehevkor ✉ 16:13, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikia link(s) 

message: Why does the franchise section omit the comics and animated movie when there are already pages here about them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Space_(comics) and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Space:_Downfall respectively. I would add them myself except it is so fucking hot here that my brain can't function well enough to cut and paste a synopsis.
On an unrelated note, I censored one of the headings here since it just spoiled the whole game for me, which I am currently playing, and will spoil it for more people in the future who might have wanted to check out this game when the sequel or book or movie comes out. Whitereflection (talk) 19:17, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Franchise section 

message: I think this page needs a better screenshot. Existing one is too dark and, as far as I understand, from rather early stage of game development. --Scorp27 (talk) 16:00, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screenshot 

message: What program was used to model the carachters and Maps? by programs i dont mean an SDK, but software like Maya or 3Ds MAX  —16:27, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Developement 

message: Just so you all know: Isaac Clarke (note: it's currently a stub).
—017Bluefield (talk) 22:53, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article for a Mr. Isaac Clarke 

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message: Let me begin by apologising profoundly for the frustration, ilk and ire I have raised.  I am NOT savvy in the ways of this thing called "Wikipedia".  All I know is, that it is a very large database of knowledge, and that J.G. Hertzler was irritated that he is not "credited" for his significant contribution to the game Dead Space. I was completely unaware of all the rules and concerns I was "violating" in making what I thought....honestly thought....were minor edits.  When my edits "disappeared" I assumed I'd failed to save my work, so I made the revision(s) again.  I'm sincerely embarrassed this gave the appearance of an "editing war".  I can see how that perception would arise. Additionally, I was admonished regarding a potential "Conflict of Interest", in that I referenced that JG Hertzler is my "client".  I felt that more appropriate and professional than divulging the personal nature of my relationship to my "client".  I do act as J.G.'s publicist, agent, and attorney, however, it is "off the books".  Notwithstanding the foregoing, I can understand a perceived potential CoI. 
I've been advised of my missteps, and the suggestion was made that I resolve this matter here....on the game "talk page".  Here is what I'd like to have added in the most appropriate manner possible:
1)  J.G. Hertzler provided the voice of the game avatar Captain Benjamin Mathius.  Here is the citation I used:  http://voicechasers.com/database/showactor.php?actorid=9878
2)  J.G. Hertzler is, quite literally, Capt Mathius.  J.G. went to New York (if memory serves), and was on a sound stage connected to CG sensors that captured his directed movements.  The graphic artists used his "real" physical likeness to create the game avatar.  I don't know if there is a way to provide this information in the "development" section, or if it's restricted by a non-disclosure....I'd have to go to our files and read the contract.  Can J.G. have his voice credit acknowledged in the very least?
Again, please accept my most sincere apologies.  I did not intend to create this controversy.
--JGHSMC (talk) 15:49, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: We're not questioning that he may have provided the voice. The problem is that with most video games, we do not go into casting information unless the voice cast itself is noted in other sources. There's no reason this information cannot be on J.G. Hertzler's page, but as we have no other casting information here, there's no need to add him to this page (otherwise, it stands out compared to other talent that was not credited either). --MASEM (t) 16:27, 19 June 2016 (UTC)
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message: Hi. I think it’s misleading and premature to add the new systems to the infobox. It’s a remake but it’s a separate product. I think the information being presented in the body and lead makes much more sense. Regarding moving the bit about the remake to the lead's first paragraph, it makes more sense in the last paragraph, being part of the game's legacy and success (thus warranting a remake). — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 19:13, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, that's a fair point. It was a little shocking to see that whole paragraph go rather than be moved/rephrased, but I admit I was precipitate in my actions regarding the infobox and lead. --ProtoDrake (talk) 19:19, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not pinging you because I figure you follow this! Give me 15 or so to do a copy-edit and I'll re-add some info! — ImaginesTigers (talk∙contribs) 19:21, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  There's already a paragraph in the body (under sequels and remakes). I have a feeling when more info is announced we'll have a separate article on the remake but its far too early for that now, nor should that reflecdt in the current infobox. (It if was a remaster, that might be different). --Masem (t) 19:37, 22 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  A standalone article is inevitable, much like the Resident Evil remakes, but too little information is available at this time. Any substantial information can be listed at its own entry on the main franchise page, since it is its own product and not a port. Haleth (talk) 02:36, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The remake and the info box 

message: *Dead Space Remake Devs Discuss How EA Motive Is Using Next-Gen Tech to Revive a Horror Classic - IGN
*Meet the Team Leading the Remake of Dead Space - EA
*The Dead Space remake is being directed by Assassin’s Creed Valhalla’s director - VG247
--ProtoDrake (talk) 17:45, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  DS Remake sources 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Moved as proposed. (non-admin closure) Natg 19 (talk) 06:13, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Dead Space (video game) →  – Seems like it is time to move to a more specific disambiguation to avoid it being confused for the remake, Dead Space (2023 video game). This is not a Demon's Souls situation where the original game is undisambiguated.  ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:02, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 18 May 2022