Talk:Hestia

message: what about her her life a a kid what happen (anon1)
:Agreed. I added stub as this page needs a bit more. As well as the above, there needs to be some elaboration on the donkey story, or at the least a link to a page about it. (anon2)
::No childhoods were imagined for Hestia, just as the Old Man of the Sea was never the "Young Boy of the Sea". Greek gods are manifest in episodes called epiphanies, which may be strung together by a storyteller (Thomas Bulfinch's parlor mythology, I bet) to give a simulation of a "biography", one that is artificial and misleading: it leads to naive questions, like "What about her life a a kid?" Zeus has a childhood set-scene, in a cave on Crete; in the "next" epiphany he overthrows Cronus. There is no "biography" in between. Understanding this is essential for a first approach to Greek myth. This really shouldn't sound "new" to any educated person. --Wetman 03:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: How there is no "biography" for Hestia

message: No public cult? What about the Hestian/Vestal Virgins? Or do they count as something else entirely?
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:No public cult of Hestia: i.e. no Greek Hestaion in which she was publicly worshipped. The implied equation Hestia=Vesta is a false equation. Vesta is only a Roman analogy of Hestia. Vesta tends the public hearth at the center of Rome. There is no equivalent in a Greek demos or polis. --Wetman 03:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, Hestia tends the public hearth in the prytaneion (e.g. Pindar Nemean 11, 1-6). Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:03, 3 October 2009 (UTC)

text: Its an odd passage, Ovid's Fasti contains a duplication of the story, in one passage it is the Nymph Lotis in the role, in the other the goddess Hestia. Presumably Ovid drew from some Greek source: although all the components (Priapos, Mt Ida, Cybelian orgies) would suggest it was an indigeneous Mysian myth. Hestia seems quite out of place in the story. If its ever reincluding in the article, it should be with a proviso. --Theranos 20:43, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Virgins 

message: I have removed the following text from the article which is too speculative for an encyclopedia entry. There is no evidence of such a direct evolution. --Theranos 20:43, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speculative origins 

message: Someone should check this edit, it looks suspicious. · AndonicO Talk 09:05, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible vandalism. 

message: the third paragraph of the introduction:
The hearth fire of a really really really Greek or a Roman household was not allowed to go out, unless it was ritually extinguished and ritually renewed, accompanied by impressive rituals of completion, purification and renewal. Compare the rituals and connotations of an eternal flame and of sanctuary lamps.
the three reallies seem redundant, are they necessary, are any? is this copied from a source or something or can it be pared down? Theneongreensage (talk) 02:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: introduction?

message: Why did Hestia swear on Zeus's head instead of on Styx? We should be able to find an explanation for this, because I know a number of people who are struggling over this one.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.239.149.151 (talk) 18:01, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zeus's Head? 

message: The text about Hestia's place being taken by Dionysus has been in the article as long as I can remember. What author makes this observation? Where is Hestia ever specifically placed at Olympus, aside from "all the gods" passing references? --Wetman (talk) 17:23, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Re Hestia in Olympus, see Plato’Phaedrus 247a, about the procession of the gods: "[Zeus] is followed by an army of gods and spirits, arrayed in eleven squadrons; Hestia alone remains in the house of the god". I don't know about Dionysos, though. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 20:13, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replaced by Dionysus? 

message: This article could be expanded and improved. I have a comment and a question.
1. The article says that "Hestia gave up her seat in favor of newcomer Dionysus to tend to the sacred fire on Mount Olympus. However, there is no ancient source for this claim." Then the article says "This nature is illustrated by her giving up her seat in the Olympian twelve to prevent conflict." These sentences are contradicting each other.
2. "Poseidon, and Apollo of the younger generation, each aspired to court Hestia, but the goddess was unmoved by Aphrodite's works and swore on the head of Zeus to retain her virginity." What's the source for this?
ICE77 (talk) 23:23, 18 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Re #2, the only source is the Homeric hymn to Aphrodite 24-25. Jastrow (Λέγετε) 18:42, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment and question 

message: I'm moving this text from the main article to here, since I don't know how to substantiate it:
:Throughout time, rarely, there have been cases of communication and interference with ones mind and mortal soul, preventing the mortal from falling into the depths and grasps of the King of death "hades". Hestia is known for her love and care, this is believed to be the explanation for these "communications, it's said that Hestia takes the role or figure of a loved one to voice her concern in order to make the victim listen. Hestia  it's believed that the letters (known nowadays) as, c, e, a, y and k were somewhat symbolic to her beliefs and causes.
I'm sure the author had the very best of intentions, but at the least this needs some NPOV-ing to remove the New Age slant and an academic source.  --Roman à clef (talk) 06:57, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information needs cleanup 

message: I noticed when viewing the greek goddess Athena's page that she has a whole large section devoted to Etymology of her name. Why is there no etymology section for Hestia?
Rrrof711 (talk) 06:27, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The inclusion (or otherwise) of an etymology section is not determined by policy, topic area or category. It's an editorial choice. Evidently, someone thought it worthwhile to create Athena's etymology section, because a fair amount has been written on the topic: though now I look at it, not enough to merit inclusion in the section title - the section covers cult origins, rather than etymology. Anyhow, I doubt that the single short line explaining Hestia's name origin as "hearth" merits its own section. Haploidavey (talk) 13:17, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology? 

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message: Hi! In the course of the next couple of weeks, I will be working on this article as an assignment for a technical editing course. As I go, I plan to put any ideas in my sandbox before I make any changes. The main focus of these changes will be the structural organization of the article, and I will likely not change any of the existing content. Thanks!Lunajb (talk) 17:40, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revising for Class Project 

message: Currently, the changes that I have made are all structural. The purpose of these structural changes focus on making the article similar to other goddess pages, such as Aphrodite and Athena. I also wanted to make broader sections so that there is space for information to be added later.
Lunajb (talk) 06:30, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes

message: Is there any cult those of us who blaspheme Aphrodite? 2601:647:4D00:2C40:4C9F:787A:E976:E194 (talk) 23:00, 25 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cult of would-be lovers? 

message: Status and attributes section: "Hestia's Olympian status is equivocal to her status among men." I struggle to understand how Hestia's Olympian status is ambiguous "to her status among men"... or even what that statement means. It seems far more likely that this editor's intention was that her status is equivalent or analogous, and that this is simply a case of mistaken word choice, and the intention here is to say that "Hestia's status among the Olympians is as ambiguous as it is among men." Anybody else? rowley (talk) 22:16, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The whole sentence reads as redundant and meaningless, whether or not one "corrects" equivocal to equivalent. It's unsourced, so I've taken it out. Hestia's status is not ambiguous, just a bit complicated, sometimes and in some places. Haploidavey (talk) 22:44, 31 December 2021 (UTC)

text: I've had a sweep through the article history. Originally, the sentence in question stated that Hestia's status as an Olympian was equivocal. I think I might even have written it. Thanks to a WikiEdu project, a student added the rest (the "to her status among men". Eeeek. Here's the diff  But none of it's needed. Haploidavey (talk) 23:12, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Equivocal or Equivalent? 

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message: Perhaps you would be interested in adding the following items to the bibliography:
Konstantinou, A. (2016) ‘Hestia and Eos: Mapping female mobility and sexuality in Greek mythic thought’, American Journal of Philology 137: 1–24.
Konstantinou, A. (2018) Female Mobility and Gendered Space in Ancient Greek Myth, London: Bloomsbury Academic: 28-34.
Simon, E. (2021) The Gods of the Greeks, ed. A. Shapiro, trans. Jakob Zeyl, Madison: University of Wisconsin Press: 121-133. 77.137.129.221 (talk) 09:14, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliography