Talk:Hiking

message: Would it be useful to add a section on walking books? The following are some suggestions:
* William Wordsworth, A Guide through the District of the Lakes
*.Bill Bryson: A Walk in the Woods – describing his attempt to walk the Appalachian Trail 
* John Hillaby, Journey to the Jade Sea (1964); Journey through Britain; Journey through Europe; Journey to the Gods (1991). Accounts of various long distance walks.
* Patrick Leigh Fermor, A Time of Gifts (1977); Between the Woods and the Water (1986); The Broken Road (2013). A trilogy describing a walk across Europe.
* John Muir: A thousand-mile walk to the Gulf.
* Dervla Murphy: walking across the Andes, Ethiopia, etc.
* Robert Louis Stephenson: Travels with a Donkey – 12-day, 200-kilometre (120 mi) solo hiking journey through the Cévennes mountains.
Examples in other languages than English? Rwood128 (talk) 21:02, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Books on walking 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Hiking's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "h1":
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I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 22:26, 16 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Hiking]] 

message: Schi11, the new Hiking#Hiking with children addition reads too much like a manual. See Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a manual, guidebook, textbook, or scientific journal. Please revise (you risk having it deleted). I'll try and help. Rwood128 (talk) 13:27, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Suggestion: Maybe the cited sources in German can be paraphrased and quoted? Rwood128 (talk) 13:48, 26 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  And in English , and , etc. Rwood128 (talk) 14:22, 27 December 2020 (UTC)

text: I agree with these comments - we aren't here to give advice about how to do something. I'm going to give it a quick once-over. GirthSummit (blether) 16:29, 27 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Nick Moyes, re your recent edit, I don't know whether it is as glaringly obvious to all parent that: "it is possible to engage in hiking with young children", as you think, though the wording might be improved. In my experience successful hiking with a young child requires lots of planning and flexibility. Rwood128 (talk) 20:32, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, . I don't think our role is to spell out things that are not glaringly obvious; it is, of course, to cover a topic encyclopaedically, and we need to avoid making statements that might themselves mislead. My edit was purely intended to remove poor wording that to me would sound awkward  to, or confuse, a reader. I'm OK with expanding this section a little more in order to explain the very different issues involved with hiking with babies, with toddlers and with older children. I suggest this book might be a suitable source to base any expansion upon, or it could go in 'Further reading'. It certainly covers the key areas and, like you, I also have experience of taking a baby, and then a 4 year old, and then a teenage child up major mountain trails. Yes, I agree: they all involve careful planning. There are two definitions that seem essential to appreciate here in any editing: that of what 'hiking' is, and what a 'child' is. I do feel that some of this article's editors seem determined to expand it into areas that stray well beyond what general hiking is, and into into realms best covered by other articles. (I would, for example, suggest that the inclusion of the photo of Striding Edge is a perfect example of that. If anyone's been on it, they'll know why I say that. It's an easy scrambling route, less a hiking trail, so doesn't really belong here).  Nick Moyes (talk) 00:37, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Nick, I certainly agree about the need not to stray too far into related areas. With regard to the photo of Striding Edge, I believe that I added that, and for me it represents more or less the boundary of what I see as hiking. This also includes hiking in snow, paths protected with chains, etc, in the Alps, and, here in Newfoundland. walking with trail crampons in winter on easy paths locally, Rwood128 (talk) 12:48, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK fair enough. On further reflection I might accept that Striding Edge is at the very upper limit of relevance to 'Hiking' - with some limited scrambling involved - and the caption does make that clear. But  other classic UK routes like Crib Goch on Snowdon  or Aonach Eagach Ridge in Glencoe definitely fall into the scrambling category and so wouldn't be appropriate here. But I still wonder whether an image of another route better known for mainstream hiking, rather than pushing the limits would be better. Perhaps the Miner's Track or the Pyg track on Snowdon might fit the bill more? (Somewhere I've a photo of my 4 year old doing it all by herself, and carrying her own rucksack too; I might upload it if it looks potentially useful!) Nick Moyes (talk) 15:59, 29 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hiking with children