Talk:Italian Social Republic

message: The daring German paratrooper action "Eiche" was NOT led by Otto Skorzeny.
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unternehmen_Eiche 
"Die Talstation einer zum Hotel führenden Bergseilbahn in der Nähe des Ortes Assergi wurde von der Stabskompanie sowie der ersten und zweiten Kompanie des Fallschirmjäger-Lehr-Bataillons unter Major Harald Mors, der von General Kurt Student mit der Durchführung des gesamten Unternehmens beauftragt worden war, gegen 14:00 Uhr auf dem Landweg eingenommen. Bereits zuvor waren von diesen Truppen alle Telefonverbindungen unterbrochen worden. Die italienischen Verteidiger leisteten nur geringen Widerstand (zwei Tote auf italienischer Seite)[1].
Gleichzeitig (um 14:05 Uhr[2]) landeten mit insgesamt zehn Lastenseglern DFS 230 72 Fallschirmjäger der ersten Kompanie des Fallschirmjäger-Lehr-Bataillons unter dem Kommando von Oberleutnant Georg Freiherr von Berlepsch sowie ein kleines SS-Kommando mit Skorzeny, dem italienischen PAI-General Fernando Soleti und weiteren 16 SS-Männern "
  2.215.19.92 (talk) 14:56, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Operation Eiche 

message: I return again over the matter: the most faithful representation of the coat is :file:CoA of the RSI.svg like it is shown in the law: Decreto Legislativo del Duce 23 gennaio 1944 – XXII, n. 15 - Stemma e Sigillo dello Stato (translation: Legislative Decree of the Duce - January 23, 1944 - XXII, No. 15 - Coat of Arms and Seal of the State). Everyone can see that part of the law in the book by Mimmo Franzinelli, RSI. edited by Mondadori, 2009 at page 55. I hope it is clear. --F l a n k e r (talk) 17:59, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Until this is resolved I've reverted it back to the previous coat of arms. You need to first establish a consensus. A previous discussion led to an agreement not to use the arms you keep adding.-- Hazhk Talk to me 20:19, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact it appears you attempted to add CoA of the RSI.svg a couple of years ago, so you know full well that there was a discussion. -- Hazhk Talk to me 20:21, 30 November 2012 (UTC)

text: My two cents: I don't see how it matters all that much which version is used, the only difference is that the eagle on F l a n k e rs version of the CoA has more black shading on it. They seem basically the same, you got the eagle, the tricolor, and the fasces. It might be helpful if someone could point to previous policy regarding CoAs (I assume this has been up for discussion about other CoAs).--Sus scrofa (talk) 22:59, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/File:CoA_of_the_RSI.svg is the link to the Commons discussion. As ever, F l a n k e r has a bad case of WP:IDIDNTHEARTHAT and/or is a liar.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 15:41, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but my image with sorces must come first that my image without sources (it is actuali a fancy image). --F l a n k e r (talk) 20:40, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

text: Per Wikipedia policy, you're wrong. "There is no such thing as an "official CoA (drawing)" in heraldics, this would be a confusion with logos (where the representation must be the official one). In heraldics, any drawing corresponding to the definition (like the one to the right) is correct (as long as a herald can recognise it)."--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 20:49, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact we do not talk about heraldics, but about the original effective historical a coat of arms of the Italian Social Republic. I have included a number of sources, authoritative and unambiguous in this regard in the file. You simply can not put a different coat of arms from the original one just because you like the most. --151.24.185.8 (talk) 19:38, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I require at least a third opinion on the question: why use a unofficial coat of arms (a patchwork with my images, I must say!) when we have an official coat of arms? --F l a n k e r (talk) 20:56, 27 March 2014 (UTC)

text: A 3O was provided, and you were there, by Swarm X at 01:35, 10 December 2010. Don't be obtuse.--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 08:05, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry can't find it in your deletion request:  nor in this discussion. --F l a n k e r (talk) 15:24, 28 March 2014 (UTC)

text: LOL, I'm obtuse? You insist to use a coat of arms different from the one represented in the establishing decree. I know that a coat of arms is not a logo (I've done so much coat of arms for Commons), but even so, we have the original coat of arms, so why don't use it? Only because you don't like it? --F l a n k e r (talk) 16:24, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: And the answer is? --F l a n k e r (talk) 06:27, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Coat of Arms

message: Why is there no mention of the Holocaust in this article?Pistolpierre (talk) 00:44, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Holocaust in Italy 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: "Three days following his rescue in the Gran Sasso raid, Mussolini was taken to Germany for a meeting with Hitler in Rastenburg at his East Prussian headquarters. While Mussolini was in poor health and wanted to retire, Hitler wanted him to return to Italy and set up a new Fascist state. When Mussolini balked, Hitler threatened to destroy Milan, Genoa and Turin unless he went along. Reluctantly, Mussolini agreed to Hitler's demands."
The source: Moseley, Ray (2004). Mussolini: The Last 600 Days of Il Duce  looks highly unreliable, I can see that the source itself doesn't provide any real reference about that supposed exchange between Hitler and Mussolini, have we got any other source for these facts?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alphac (talk • contribs) 13:16, 16 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources check for Establishment by Nazi Germany 

message: According to the article "After the Italian capitulation, the Italian Aegean Islands were occupied by the Germans (see Dodecanese campaign). During the German occupation, the islands remained under the nominal sovereignty of the RSI, but were de facto subject to the German military command."but the map does not show them in the same way as south Tyrol. On that subject, what were the RSI's other claims? Did they just surrender all of their Balkan territory? Were the African colonies still treated as Italian officially or had they given up on them?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyndane5 (talk • contribs) 02:07, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Inaccurate Map?

message: The article claims that under Fascism there had been relative "economic independence", in fact the Italian economy and society was dominated by state regulations - indeed control of the economy and society in general is part of the core definition of Fascism. And the article also implies that it was only under the Italian Social Republic that the Fascists tried to nationalise industry (and downplays even this), in fact Fascist Italy in the 1930s had more state owned enterprises than any country - apart from the Soviet Union. The account of Fascism given in the article (as so often in Wikipedia) is essentially Marxist propaganda - yet no where in the article is it openly announced that the view of Fascism given is from a Marxist perspective.  Thus, as so often on Wikipedia, a reader with no prior knowledge of the subject might be fooled into thinking the article presents an objective account.2A02:C7D:B48D:1200:49E7:54CE:8B4E:E85C (talk) 06:30, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: You are very welcome to change the article. But please stick to a neutral tone and WP:REF your additions properly. Travelbird (talk) 06:33, 29 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  The account of Fascism given in this article is false.