Talk:Māori Battalion

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message: I remember the Rommel quote as being "Give me three Māori battalions, and I could rule the world", and it's referred to here as him calling the Māori Battalion the "greatest fighting force he'd ever seen". I can't find any reliable references though - a number of blogs and forum posts only. Does anyone know where these quotes come from?-gadfium 18:19, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My understanding of the quote, as an amateur historian of NZ military history, is that it is entirely apocryphal.Royalcourtier (talk) 05:03, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Rommel quote

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 09:21, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: I have changed the Military history checklist to not meeting the project's B class requirements for coverage. IMO the article does not adequately summarise the unit's service history. It needs to go into more specific detail about actions that the battalion fought in to achieve this. There appears to be a lot of good information to achieve this in this source: . One suggestion I have is to add some subheadings such as: formation (which could include background, recruitment and training), North Africa (including separate sections for major actions), Italy, Disbandment. Currently there is a lot of list like information. To be honest I don't think this is really necessary. The Honours and Awards section could be condensed into prose with footnotes for the list of names (if they are really necessary). That is just my opinion, though. — AustralianRupert (talk) 00:33, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Coverage

message: A few suggestions for improvement towards B class and beyond:
* add more structure to the article by adding a History section, with subsections such as: Formation (which could include information about background, recruitment and training); North Africa, Italy, Disbandment;
* provide more context in the Background seciton. A reader who read that section would not fully understand the situation;
* provide a more detailed account of the actions that the battalion was involved in;
* did the battalion receive any official battle honours? Is there a source that could be found for these?
* consult the Official History work, and add inline citations to it;
* condense the long lists into prose, with supporting footnotes;
* add some relevant images to the article;
* format the in line references with  providing publisher and accessdate information;
* format the Further reading section with  for a cleaner look. 
If you would like more detailed comments, please consider nominating this article for a Military History project peer review. This can be done by following the instructions at WP:MHPR. Cheers. AustralianRupert (talk) 00:44, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I've finished writing the article. It still needs some more images. I'm not really confident on NZ copyright law, so if someone from NZ with knowledge of this subject could help find, upload and tag some images, I'd greatly appreciate it and it would definately make the article look better. Currently it is a reasonably visible article (about 2,000 hits a month), so it would be a shame for it to fall down on images. Cheers. AustralianRupert (talk) 05:16, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Good work, sorry I wasn't more help... Anotherclown (talk) 16:33, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestions for improvement

message: Were there any other Maori units in the ANZAC forces - either independent or attached? If not, then the photos on the IWM Collection website would likely be of the Battalion despite not being labelled as such, and could concievably be used. Skinny87 (talk) 15:19, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Skinny, I believe that the 28th Battalion was the only unit formed specifically for Maoris to serve in. Maoris did serve in other units/branches of the NZ forces, but these units were not "Maori units" as such. If you don't mind me asking, what is the best search term to use in the IWM Collection, I found it quite difficult to find anything (but it might be just me). AustralianRupert (talk) 00:33, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Found some, here: . Thanks for your help. Cheers. AustralianRupert (talk) 01:07, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos 

message: Was the battalion's official title "28th (Maori) Battalion", or "28th Battalion"?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.197.15.138 (talk) 07:09, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The sources seem inconsistent. The official history is titled "28 (Maori) Battalion", but then elsewhere I've seen "28th (Maori) Battalion" and all sorts of variations. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 04:52, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  ArchivesNZ who hold the official records call them the Maori Pioneer Battalion as per http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/ViewEntity.do?code=18432 Stuartyeates (talk) 22:51, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: G'day, Stuart, the unit you are referring to is not the unit to which this article relates. The Maori Pioneer Battalion served during the First World War, while the unit to which this article relates served during the Second World War. They were two different units with different functions, i.e assault pioneer as opposed to infantry. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:20, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This would be why I'm editing the talk page not the real article. Stuartyeates (talk) 07:28, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No worries, mate, we all make mistakes sometime. I've made some howlers. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 09:39, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
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message: The Duncan MacIntyre (New Zealand politician) article currently reads: "...and commanded the Māori Battalion.", but the Māori Battalion article does not support this. At http://teaohou.natlib.govt.nz/journals/teaohou/issue/Mao68TeA/c3-1.html it says "In 1945, as Commanding Officer of the New Zealand Divisional Cavalry, he was given command of the 28th Maori Battalion contingent and took it to Japan", but the the Māori Battalion article says "a 270-strong contingent from the battalion was sent to Japan under the designation of 'D' Squadron, 2nd Divisional Cavalry Battalion, under the command of Major J.S Baker". Oddly the J Force article also makes no mention of him. Odd. Can anyone clarify? Snori (talk) 09:38, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: G'day, MacIntyre was the regimental commander of the Divisional Cavalry Regiment (New Zealand), while Baker was the squadron commander. MacIntyre is listed on the Divisional Cavalry Regiment article. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 10:25, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Duncan MacIntyre?

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