Talk:Treaty of Lausanne

message: Link from main page On This Day is not quite right. This treaty modified Turkey's borders on the Europe as well, Karaagac Station.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.89.74 (talk) 19:20, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: Dropped this link:
http://www.mfa.gov.tr/grupe/ed/eda/edaa/default.htm Full text of the treaty
As it appears to be broken. Ellsworth 22:54, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: The lede should give a summary of the result of the treaty, or its clauses, beside the "international recognition of the sovereignty of the new Republic of Turkey as the successor state of the defunct Ottoman Empire". --Jerome Potts (talk) 04:25, 26 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro 

message: It definitely was not "Constantinople-based Ottoman government",
it should be and is "Ottoman-based İstanbul Government".
:Nonsense.Ladnadruk (talk) 20:44, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constantinople-based Ottoman government? 

message: In the article there is  a sentence "The Treaty of Lausanne superseded the Treaty of Sèvres which was signed by representatives of the Ottoman Empire" which is not soured. 
Could anybody please provide sourcing for it? Aregakn (talk) 15:02, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The sentence "..superseded the Treaty of Sèvres.." 

message: The above article refers to the compulsory exchange of populations between Greece and Turkey (which certainly happened) being anticipated by the Treaty.  However this article does not refer to that.  Can any one fill this out?  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:25, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a convention between Turkey and Greece about compulsory exchange of populations, signed at Lausanne before the Peace Treaty was signed.  It is not part of the Treaty of Lausanne, but it was agreed that it would come into effect as soon as the Treaty of Lausanne was ratified.  That's the connection.  It isn't clear that it belongs in this article. Zerotalk 09:31, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Greek refugees]] 

message: Somewhere there must be an official list of nations that ratified the treaty and when.  Anyone know?  I'll look at the LofN treaty series soon.  Meanwhile, sources are needed for "ratified by the Greek government on 11 February 1924, by the Turkish government on 31 March, and by the governments of Great Britain, Italy and Japan on 6 August."  I have good sources that both the Greek and Turkish governments ratified the treaty during 1923.  Turkish ratification on Aug 23, 1923 is reported by The Times on the following day (page 8).  Also British ratification was announced in the Commons on July 16, 1924  so that one seems wrong too.  I suspect some mixup here.  Zerotalk 03:58, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact all the given dates are wrong.  Perhaps they refer to some other treaty?  Fixing the article now. I was not able to find dates for Bulgaria, Roumania or Serbia, if indeed they ratified it.  Zerotalk 12:44, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

text: Problem solved.  The dates given were when the "instruments of ratification" were deposited in Paris.  That is different from the date of ratification.  Also Bulgaria was not a signatory.  Zerotalk 09:20, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates of ratification 

message: The info-box  gave the languages of the treaty as "Turkish, English, French, German" but someone just removed "German".  In fact, the treaty itself says that there is only one original copy, and inspection of the League of Nation Treaty Series shows that copy to be in French.  So I'm changing it.  If anyone has a good source with different information, please bring it. Zerotalk 09:02, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language 

message: I am doing a presentation, and I literally have no clue what each of them are about, so I would really appreciate some kind of help! Thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elineyoyo (talk • contribs) 17:49, 1 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the similarities between the Treaty of Lausanne and the Treaty of Versailles? 

message: The map which shows the Treaty of Sevres and Lausanne is utterly cluttered and not-helpful at all, also, the boundaries are not shown appropriately. Do you have some better map ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Akashpaul21 (talk • contribs) 09:32, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map is gutter. 

message: Apart from the fact that its full text was published in 1924, further proof that the Declaration of Amnesty was not secret is that it was described in the press already before it was signed. For example, The Times, Feb 1, 1923, p9. Another discussion in The Times on July 18, a week before it was signed. Zerotalk 05:52, 6 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "secret" annex 

message: So who signed it? 104.153.40.58 (talk) 21:32, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Look in the box on the top right. Zerotalk 02:21, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Don't see any names there.... 104.153.40.58 (talk) 01:13, 26 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Signing 

message: Treaty of Lausanne 106.215.222.15 (talk) 19:07, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Treaty of Lausanne 

message: "Egypt and Anglo-Egyptian Sudan (both of which had been occupied by British forces with the pretext of "putting down the Urabi Revolt and restoring order" in 1882, but de jure remained Ottoman territories until World War I) were given to the British Empire, which had unilaterally annexed them on 5 November 1914." Britain did NOT annex Egypt in 1914. It deposed the pro-Ottoman Khedive and then allowed his successor to declare Egypt to be an independent Sultanate, which was upgraded to a Kingdom in 1926. Britain of course retained de facto control until after World War II. Wikipedia's own article the history of modern Egypt makes this clear. Furthermore, the Treaty of Lausanne says nothing about Britain's position in Egypt. It refers to Egypt as though it was a sovereign state. Constant Pedant (talk) 10:50, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not exactly, though I agree with the deletion. Article 19 says "Any questions arising from the recognition of the State of Egypt shall be settled by agreements to be negotiated subsequently in a manner to be determined later between the Powers concerned." So the treaty does not refer to Egypt as a sovereign state but as a territory whose status is not yet determined other than making clear that Turkey renounces "all rights and titles" there (Article 17). Zerotalk 03:23, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: British in Egypt 1914

message: It's shorter than the parts under Stipulations section and is part of stipulations. It doesn't make sense to have a separate section for that. 78.175.53.136 (talk) 15:07, 8 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is "Declaration pf Amnesty" a separate section? It may very well be under "Stipulations" section.