Talk:Chant des Partisans

message: The English translation is horrible - Whilst the French text gives you goosebumps.
Especially when sung by Yves Montand or narrated in the right way there is such a subtle menace, going far beyond the meaning of the mere words, that it scares the living daylights out of anyone considered 'The Enemy' which suposedly it was exactly that what it was meant to do.
Nothing of that 'effect' remains in the English translation.81.245.186.215 23:19, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Tell me about it. I was listening to Montand last week in the car and it just broke me up. The French lyrics are extraordinary. --ROGER DAVIES TALK 13:20, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Translation

message: Your nasty aggressiveness is so bad; i.e.:
:"Please stop wasting everybody's time" (Or is it just YOUR's that feels wasted?)
:"You have no need to write here at all" (That's a good-one, Are YOU to decide?)
:"Your attitude is in fact..."
That I can safely state you are the most UN-Wiki person I have ever met on these pages.
This is after all the talk page where everybody can foreward his arguments (As opposed to the article-page).
Has it occured to you that you may not have all the wisdom in the world?
Coppyright-laws can be very complex and are far from being fully integreted even within the E.U. (Although the E.U. claims they are)
I know what I am talking about.
I graduated law school and although I never persevered a carreer in this field (As Neither in my other degrees of Physics and History-Diplomatic Sciences, I studied for 'Fun') I know for shure that, brought before a court in Belgium (But I'm pretty shure about France to), the argument that this song was 'sent' by the 'Londoners' (As European governments in exile were called in the occupied countries)  to the French and sung (Ore actually more often whisseled) publically by every Frenchman who dared so is strong enough to put aside any idea of a copyright still being in vigor.
Possessing any capacities towards logic thought you should not be surprised that when an author 'gives away' his work to the public, there can not be question of copyright any more!
The French were even asked to sing it (Publically of-course) as often as they dared to keep the spirit high!  81.245.176.160 20:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You seem to be quoting a statement that the author has given away this work to the public.  Where are you quoting from?  This would (finally) be an answer to my original question.  As for all the rest, I stand by my remarks and am confident they speak for themselves.  I did get annoyed at one point, and apologize if I caused any offense.  However, I asked a simple question in good faith and have yet to get a direct answer. -David Schaich Talk/Cont 20:27, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A final answer 

message: * Yes. The Partisan is a stub and duplicates the material here. --ROGER DAVIES TALK  —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 12:32, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge The Partisan 

message: The Persian translation is a admirable effort in its own right, but it really is not a translation of the song. It diverges too much from the original text to be considered a "translation" in any sense of the word. aryonoco (talk) 11:53, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Can I query why this translation is here at all?  It should be on the Persian WP, Surely? Does this version have any particular relevance to the song? Moonraker12 (talk) 13:12, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This query has been unanswered for over a year now, so I've deletd the section from the article. I trust everyone is OK with that. Moonraker12 (talk) 18:11, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Persian Translation 

message: ... the National Museum of the Legion of Honour and the Orders of  Knighthood, in Paris, France (at least as of March 28, 2011)
http://www.musee-legiondhonneur.fr
A photograph (which can be clicked on, and enlarged) of a portion of the manuscript can be seen at:
http://www.musee-legiondhonneur.fr/00_koama/visu_lh/index.asp?sid=320&cid=10861&cvid=10875&lid=2
http://www.musee-legiondhonneur.fr/mlh/galerie/1024/75_Page-1-retouche---chant-par.jpg
Their store sells a CD with a performance by Le Choeur des Sapeurs-Pompiers de Paris.  There are two versions on the CD: one with, and one without, guitar accompaniment.
The song is played very softly, via two small overhead directional speakers, where the manuscript is displayed; you can hear it only as you stand at the case looking at the manuscript.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.117.157 (talk) 02:25, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The original manuscript of the lyrics is on display at ...  

message: I listened to several singers, and the French lyrics given, were off a bit.  The lyrics as shown now are very common (match the original museum lyrics on paper).  I am sure there are minor variations, but the lyrics were not correct in a few places. K5okc (talk) 12:27, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Lyrics Again

message: They are absolutely not free of right in France and until 2080 or something like that. You should removed them. I know what i'm talking about, i'm french.
Also, these are not the first lyrics, they were ones before, that are free of right.
last thing, you should write that the song was mots whistle in the Radio and in the France, because the nazis could'nt interference it the whistling on the radio and couldn't identify it in the street.
Please do these modifications, i can't myself, my english is not enough good i'm scared.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.123.183.102 (talk) 09:17, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lyrics 

message: The French text, as well as the Russian text, is not free. That is sure. 
And I’m not sure about the English translation… TED (talk) 23:53, 4 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The English versions are not free, either. Translation from the French is tied up in the French copyright, as it is derivative. Assuming UK copyright, since the original was published in London, protection is life of the author + 70 years. Anna Marly died in 2006. I've removed the lyrics. Thanks for flagging them. --Moonriddengirl (talk) 10:43, 25 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyvio 

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