Talk:List of museum ships

message: I would appreciate a favor at Draft:Preserved locomotives in the United States and Draft:Preserved locomotives in Canada, which are similar lists of museum things.  I am restricted from putting articles into mainspace, and with these list-articles I have been stymied by the Articles For Creation (AFC) project's inability to understand list-articles.  By reasoning stated by more than one AFC reviewer at those or other list-article drafts, the list of museum ships would have long ago been deemed unacceptable and deleted entirely, as not meeting individual editors' idiosyncratic, not-based-in-policy preferences.  Those list-articles are big efforts by me following on from a big (2nd) AFD on the overall "List of locomotives" where there were various false assertions about the impossibility of listing potentially moveable museum things (like ships) which don't actually move very often.  Putting them into mainspace, in really pretty good order now, will bring on the railfans and lead to expansion and improvements. [I guess technically I could just insert these into already-existing List of locomotives and then boldly split them out as if that is not creating new articles contrary to my edit restriction....]
Could someone here please just move those two list-articles to mainspace?  (And just delete all the AFC comments and business at the top, or leave that to me to do.)  If you've been following here, you can see at a glance those are valid list-articles.
While I am willing to take on big tasks and go through long periods of criticism and non-appreciation, sometimes, I am not a robot, and I am not impervious to disappointment and frustration in things Wikipedia.  I do appreciate a few kind words now and then (thanks wolf for your recent award of a cleanup barnstar to me at my Talk page!) and it would also be great if someone could grant me these specific favors. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 21:14, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind.  That was probably too complicated to ask for, and I just take responsibility myself, and I did that by merging and splitting approach. --Doncram (talk,contribs) 23:27, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request RE similar lists of locomotive museums 

message: When I did a lot of organizing a while back, I wasn't sure how to handle deep submergence vehicles(?) (submersibles?) such as DSV Turtle, which is located in Connecticut in the U.S. and is listed in the List of museum ships in North America split-out article.  So I left them in.  But they really seem more like submarines than they seem like tall ships to me.  And most people probably don't know the distinction, even when the loss of one of them has been prominently in the news.
I propose moving all the DSV ones in the main list-article and in the split-out North America list-article to the corresponding locations in the List of submarine museums list-article(s).  (I will now also post notice of this proposal at other relevant Talk pages). --Doncram (talk,contribs) 04:18, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems a good idea - though with a note in this article to that effect. Davidships (talk) 12:37, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move deep submergence vehicles to separate list on museum submarines? 

message: The purpose of this column has been raised a couple of times, but never actually discussed.  At present it is a mess: some countries of build, some countries of current location as museums, and a few inbetween, with multiple entries or blank. One thing that should be borne in mind - for those continents that have omnibus entries there is no way to sort by country of museum. Davidships (talk) 13:00, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Column "Origin" 

message: As all (I believe) entries are in discrete tables per country of location, it is superfluous to include the country again in every entry. Already looks in the Japan table, I think. - Davidships (talk) 02:47, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location field