Talk:Zainab Salbi

message: Hi, I noticed that later-life information was added to the Early life and education section , and I think the later-life information should probably be split and attributed to the date of publication (per MOS:RELTIME). We could create a Personal life section to include information from sources where she discusses her later relationship with Islam. E.g. Harper's Bazaar Arabia states in 2015,  Cheers, Beccaynr (talk) 19:42, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Honestly, going on about her relationship with her religion feels a little excessive. I'm open to being convinced otherwise, but it'll take a lot of convincing. DS (talk) 14:45, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the above. In all the time I spent finding sources to improve the article, I didn't notice her religion come up other than reviews of her memoir which often stated she grew up in a secular household. CT55555(talk) 15:19, 28 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[MOS:RELTIME]] and section contents 

message: fyi, a source was removed from the article  (edit summary: "Failed verification. This source on ebscohost is a 3-question interview and doesn't mention her mother's job and doesn't mention her father.") but the content was based on the part of the source before the interview for the part of the sentence "her mother worked". This is not the only source I've found that mentions this, but it was the one I had quickly available when making the edit. This source was used with another source that describes the occupations of her mother and father. I have no objection to moving the reference to make the text-source integrity more clear, but I think it could be restored to help support the content. Thank you, Beccaynr (talk) 22:03, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The sentence in the Wiki article is  One of the sources only said "her working mother" and nothing on her father. It did not describe the occupation of her mother, and didn't mention her father. Since we already have a source supporting the statement of her parents' occupations, why do we need to include an extra source saying nothing more than her mother worked? Saucysalsa30 (talk) 22:42, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: From my view, it is helpful to include because the other source only describes her as a teacher, and the fact that she worked appears to be emphasized by the source as pertinent to Salbi's biography. Beccaynr (talk) 22:46, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I see what you're getting at but the wording is confusing. Yes, it says she was a teacher. Teacher isn't a profession or isn't working? Or is the aim to make it crystal clear that as a teacher, this was a working job and not an ambiguous label? Saucysalsa30 (talk) 23:00, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: My recollection is that I found a source with a better level of detail, and I would prefer to use it if I can find it again. The source that was removed seems to highlight her mother working as an important part of Salbi's biography, so that aspect appears helpful, both to potentially include and as a reason to continue looking for more information about in other sources. The other source in the article seems more straightforward because it does not appear to offer the same kind of context. Beccaynr (talk) 23:17, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Her mother worked"