Talk:Waikato

message: Someone proficient at "dab" may like to note in the standard manner that "Waikato" is a river, a tribe or subtribe, a dialect, part of the names of two territorial authority districts and one regional council and probably a number of other statutory bodies, and the name of at least one chief prominent in the 19th century (currently linked to this article at "Maori language"). I don't know whether any of those need separate pages. I see "Waikato River" has one; and I wouldn't propose to merge it with this. Robin Patterson 00:47, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure about that. The most common use is probably in the weather forecasts and they use it to refer to a smaller area than the Region. Nurg 08:03, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

text: OK - (hmmmm, I forgot the rugby team...) Robin Patterson 07:41, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: OK Robin Patterson 07:41, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: My 1894 grammar book includes "Waikato" in its list of 7 dialects. The Reed Pocket dictionary map shows a "Waikato" tribe. Robin Patterson 07:41, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: They are quite different entities so that's perfectly fine. Nurg 08:03, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)

text: Yes, not forgetting "South Waikato District". But I've already distinguished Porirua from its city council and have more to add to each page. So be warned - remember the 32kB limit! Robin Patterson 07:41, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: In principle I agree with most of what Ben says (as usual). Robin Patterson 07:41, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I did a little work on this article and found myself referring to "true Waikato". I see absolutely no problem with anyone creating an article on the traditional Waikato area (in addition to Waikato Region and Waikato District articles) being, I suggest, the area south of Auckland Region, south and west of Hauraki Plains, west of Kaimais and Mamakus and north of Central Plateau and King Country, regardless of whether this trad Waikato has any current official status or agreed precise boundaries. Similarly there will one day be an article on King Country, an historically significant area. The only issue will be that this existing article will probably have to be renamed Waikato Region, leaving "Waikato" for the trad area. Nurg 08:03, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguation

message: I'm getting fed up with having to continually revert assertions by a couple of anons that the term "Mooloo" started thanks to a variation of the "Ole ole" soccer chant being used for the Waikato Rugby team. Since the soccer chant started after the 1982 World Cup in Spain, and the word Mooloo's been around for at least 50 years, I find this patently ridiculous. if anyone has information to the contrary, though, I'd be happy to listen. I'd also be happy if others would keep an eye on this problem on the page... Grutness...wha? 07:18, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Mooloo" 

message: Some wikiholic really should give this article a list of the districts that are wholly or partly in the region. I think there are ten. It was annoying to come here expecting to get a quick link to one and not find it. Robin Patterson 05:43, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Territorial authorities

message: :Waikato (region/district) → Waikato Region — Originally requested that this page be moved to just "Waikato", but, after arguments made on the prevuious request, and shifting about the internet a bit, I think the term is too ambiguous. "Waikato Region" is used on Waikato's tourist website here, and seems to be fairly common. The current page dates from when the Waikato District was included in the article. YeshuaDavid • Talk • 20:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment - Sorry to add a new twist, but Waikato (region/district) says there are actually two Waikato regions:  the government region, and the cultural (geographic?) region.  Would it be workable, to have Waikato Region (meaning the government region) and Waikato region?  What is the local name of this other region?  --Una Smith (talk) 20:38, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Moving to Waikato Region would be an improvement on the current name, but I still believe a move to "Waikato" is more appropriate, as per the previous move request, which got several supporting comments. The name Waikato is most commonly used to mean the geographic region, which is more or less the same thing as the government region. The difference between these two concepts is small enough to be explained within the article. I doubt that there is any formal definition of the geographical region as distinct from the government region. When people casually refer to "The Waikato" they may not be including the Coromandel Peninsula or the northern part of the Taupo District, but it might be difficult to find a citation saying that.-gadfium 20:49, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Erm, maybe go back to the move to "Waikato"? Hadn't realised the term was so ambiguous, anyone got a better propsal? YeshuaDavid • Talk • 20:52, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you should unarchive the earlier suggested move, and see what further comment you get. You can ask at WP:NZWNB for more input from New Zealanders.-gadfium 20:56, 5 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Is the distinction between the two regions really not signficant?  Didn't the cultural region exist hundreds or thousands of years before the government region? --Una Smith (talk) 01:39, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The Waikato (iwi) - which I assume you mean by the "cultural region" - arrived in the geographic region no more than 700 years ago. Thousands of years is not an appropriate term for human population of NZ. Beeswaxcandle (talk) 07:16, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Waikato (iwi) is the tribe, not the place.  --Una Smith (talk) 17:25, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the iwi is the iwi. However, the place is named by and for the iwi. This means that the Waikato as a "cultural region" hasn't existed for more than 700 years. The geological/geographical region is somewhat older! Beeswaxcandle (talk) 08:39, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move, part 2

message: :Waikato (region/district) → ? — Unarchived first part of this debate and changed requested move target to "?", to reflect the uncertainty of what to call this article. YeshuaDavid • Talk • 23:33, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please cancel this and restore the original move request :Waikato (region/district) → Waikato, which you can see had 5 to 1 support. XLerate (talk) 01:47, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved the tag back. Let's not change the proposal when the discussion is still ongoing, ok? Jafeluv (talk) 06:08, 6 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Should Waikato (iwi) also be merged back into Tainui, or does that split make sense? Station1 (talk) 23:33, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know. I wasn't planning on getting involved with that split. Any concerns should be discussed at Talk:Tainui.-gadfium 23:43, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move, part 3

message: I query the use of the lonely planet reference (currently [4]). This is a tourist book not a reliable source for Wikipedia. I am happy to have another more reputable reference in its place. Comments before it is removed? Mari370 (talk) 13:00, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lonely Planet Reference 

message: My apologies if I have stepped on anyones toes. Just edited part of the article to make it regionally focused. Some of the content seemed to confuse the current Waikato Region (as enacted by the Local Government Act 1989) with a more historic, generic and inconsistent understanding of Waikato. Mari370 (talk) 13:13, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correcting disambiguation 

message: I see people got themselves into a bit of a knot on this page two years ago. Pity I wasn't watching at the time. Never mind. Back to my comments above of 15 Oct 2004. I suggested this article would have to be renamed Waikato Region, and that's been done. The way is open to create a new article about the Waikato itself, the area covered by Te Ara at http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/waikato. It clearly distinguishes between the Waikato and the Waikato regional council area at http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/waikato-region/1. And there's a useful map of the Waikato at http://www.teara.govt.nz/en/waikato-places. The best name for the article is Waikato. Nurg (talk) 06:36, 10 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: The Waikato (not the Region)

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thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: Does anyone have a reference to a dictionary listing /ˈwaɪkɑːtɔː/ as an accepted / common pronunciation? Never heard it before.
Abgar eabe ghu (talk) 03:46, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: The article mentions: ...Chief Te Whero whero did not sign... is it possible the name should be TE WARU as on the picture published in The New Zealanders Illustrated by George French Angas? Thank you for your time. Lotje (talk) 15:33, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  TE WARU 

message: What should be the criteria for being in this list, rather than in the articles for individual locations? For example, should the Prime Minister and Leader of the Opposition be in?
Notable people are treated differently in articles on other regions. Most (Auckland, Bay of Plenty, Gisborne, Hawke's Bay, Manawatū-Whanganui, Wellington, Tasman, Marlborough, West Coast, Canterbury, Otago, Southland) have nothing. Northland, Taranaki and Nelson have a category. So I'd prefer to follow the majority and delete this section, though moving any not covered elsewhere to the relevant location. What do you think? Johnragla (talk) 17:54, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. It may be of interest that Bruce McLaren lived in some particular town in the Waikato, but not knowing whether it was Tuakau, Turangi or one of a hundred other places in a vast region is not much use. (I wonder where in the Waikato McLaren did live.) Nurg (talk) 05:58, 12 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable people 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress