Talk:Vladimir Vysotsky

message: According to the article header his name is Vladimir Vysotskyj but the third image from the top is labeled "Marina Vlady and Valdimir Vysotskiy". Looks like a typo. Both first and last name differes from the name in the header. For all I know this spelling is russian slang, so if anyone with knowledge of the russian language is reading this; please correct the label and/or delete this comment. Ulfkri (talk) 08:46, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Vladimir Vysotskyj or Valdimir Vysotskiy

message: ==== Russia ===
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* Na koncertah Vladimira Vysotskogo 13 [LP] (19xx)
* Na koncertah Vladimira Vysotskogo 16 [LP] (19xx)
* Mapuna Bradu [CD] (19xx) (note: most likely, this is Cyrillic characters made with a latin script for Marina Vladi -Марина Влади in russian)
* Ohota na volkov / Hunting Wolves [LP] (19xx)
:-->
As so much of his work was recorded on tape by amateurs/with home musical equipment by fans or concert-goers, it's difficult to consider the substantial amount of recordings available today as official.
=== Jewish heritage ===
A source below in the discussion cites him as having been baptized. The citation-in article for "of mixed Jewish[1] and Russian descent" only explicitly says that his grandmother was Jewish, but married a Ukrainian man during WWII to avoid Nazi persecution. The original name of the grandfather appears to be of Jewish descent, but he changed it to a Russian form - with no explicit mention of Jewish heritage. Is this sufficient to mention?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.9.226.62 (talk) 05:22, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible amendments 

message: A source below in the discussion cites him as having been baptized. The citation-in article for "of mixed Jewish[1] and Russian descent" only explicitly says that his grandmother was Jewish, but married a Ukrainian man during WWII to avoid Nazi persecution. The original name of the grandfather appears to be of Jewish descent, but he changed it to a Russian form - with no explicit mention of Jewish heritage. Is this sufficient to mention?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.9.226.62 (talk) 05:22, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jewish heritage 

message: I know "Melody" published several vynils of songs of Vysotsky of the "patriotic" theme (a bureaucratic term, hence in quotes) of WWII.
The official Vysotsky websites go in deeper detail of presenting individual songs, even individual records of them, unfortunately I falied to find any pre-CD era discography. Mikkalai 20:11, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discography 

message: I just noticed the last entry in the "External links" section of the article is "The Word of Vladimir Vysotsky, by Akbar Ali Muhammad (international publication)". I took a look at the linked page (somewhat cursory, I admit), and it seems that this "publication" is someone's personal/religious (and, IMHO, very skewed) take on some Vysotsky's work. 
Given that the rest of the entries in the section are links to [good] informational sites about V.V., song archives, and so forth, it seems that lumping this entry along with the others is a bit misleading (seeming to indicate that the article has some authority, which is arguable at best).
I'm not sure what the wikipedia policy about external links is, but at the very least I think it would be more appropriate to at least mark it as a link to someone's personal opinion, as opposed to a real scholarly publication).
VG
Nov 15 2005
129.55.200.20 17:45, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the link to external article, "The Word of V.V." appropriate in current form? 

message: Was it that he died of a heroin overdose? The article doesn't specify.Constanz - Talk 12:49, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cause of death

message: Listen, we can argue about the circumstances discussed in thes section until the cows come home. The key issue is that this whole section is clearly very biased and stands out as a badly written insertion. The very first sentence alludes to "fairly convincing evidence" which is a "weasel word" by Wikipedia standards, and it only goes downhill from there on. I suggest this section be deleted or drastically rewritten. User GOGANESS.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.131.94.93 (talk) 17:33, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You are probably not very familiar with wikipedia policies. While I may guess that Alex simply didn't noticed a single tiny footnote, and hence he wrote "unreferenced accusations", you must provide more detailed references, i.e., direct links to book pages, to negative statements, with exact attributions of all opinions. Such thing must be easily verifiable, since there are plenty of people who used to write various rumors in this article. "Easily verifiable" means that I must not read the whole book to find confirmation. Please start with footnoting the most strong accusations. Later people may want to request additional confirmations in other places. - 7-bubёn >t 03:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

text: An additional concern is the credibility of the book ("книги Валерия Перевозчикова"). You must explicitly state that this section draws mainly from this book, and you must provide a reasonable info about the author. As I see, he wrote quite a few books about Vysotski.  If he is notable, please consider writing the article "Valeri Perevozchikov". - 7-bubёn >t 03:35, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

text: *I was giving you a friendly advice how to proceed with minimal conflict. If it is something unclear in my advice, please ask a question, rather than take a warrior stance. Now answering to one of your reasonable questions: "who is to judge what is a negative statement" - You are, basing on common understanding what is good and what is bad. Example: "Person X is a very bad man" -it is a negative statement. "Person X sells heroin" - it is negative statement. (Of course there are not so evident cases, but I am not concerned about them now.) Now a multiple-choice question for exercise: "Vysotsky's associates had all put in efforts to supply his drug habit" - is it positive or negative statement about Vysotsky's associates? Your choices: (A) negative (B) positive (C) dunno (D) bug off, you admin bully. (The correct answer is A) - 7-bubёn >t 04:28, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

text: <shrug> Whatever. - 7-bubёn >t 07:00, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Circumstances of death 

message: I find this sentence a bit non encyclopedic: Fueled by Marina's exotic status as a Frenchwoman in the Soviet Union, and Vladimir's unmatched popularity in his country, their love was passionate and impulsive.
I mean, it might be true that their love was passionate and impulsive, but I feel it should have references. And about the origins of this passion, I guess it's only for them to say if it was connected to their public status (a quote could work here).
Udi Raz (talk) 14:20, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not only it is non encyclopedic but it is sheer nonsense. Even if this was mentioned in RS, it would still be un-encyclopedic. - BorisG (talk) 15:42, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If you find such sentences in the next future, just delete 'em.-- ♫Greatorangepumpkin♫ T 15:46, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Many other parts are worse. For example, "Vysotsky was an avid alcoholic and heroin addict yet some people feel that part of the blame for his death lies with the group of associates who surrounded him in the last years of his life", and so on [web site link]. But the link does not really make such claim and hardly qualify as RS. Unfortunately, I can not fix it because of my topic ban.Biophys (talk) 19:27, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: P.S. I can see above a very reasonable comment about this made by the banned User:Mikkalai. Seriously, he must be allowed to return. Biophys (talk) 19:35, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  A bit non encyclopedic? 

message: I use a translator. To answer some questions. 1) Vysotsky died due to a weak heart. Heart was weak from birth. 2) The religiosity is unknown. The book is written by Marina Vlady that Vysotskky not believe in God..
specify your e-mail. I will answer the other questions and help with the discography..  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.162.4.123 (talk) 08:08, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greetings from Russia 

message: @Galassi. This tells: "His father, Semyon Volfovich (Vladimirovich) (1915–1997), was a Jewish colonel in the army originally from Kiev." Which Army? Who originated from Kiev, his father or the Army? What does it mean "Jewish"? Religion, ethnicity or something else? Which exactly sources support this assertion? My very best wishes (talk) 16:03, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Ethnicity, of course: http://www.jewish.ru/culture/press/2009/01/news994271088.php .--Galassi (talk) 16:23, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if you think that Михаил НАЗАРЕНКО is a reliable source (I would definitely prefer a better source), then this text should be properly rephrased to make it understandable and explain why the Jewish ethnicity of his farther was so important for his biography. Perhaps it was, but why? Was he a Jewish nationalist? No.My very best wishes (talk) 16:43, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Mikhail Nazarenko is a notable philologist, and a professor at Kiev University. He passes the WP:RS criteria. --Galassi (talk) 17:55, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Why revert?

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thread_title:  Malware Link Removal 4 

message: *Link to his CDs - should be legit I think. My very best wishes (talk) 06:16, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Link

message: What is the copyright status of his audio recordings? I translated the main theme song from "The Last Burglar" (Здравствуйте, наши добрые зрители... and Вот что, жизнь прекрасна, товарищи...) but I can't find any info about his estate (if any). Would it be OK to upload my own performance of his (translated) song onto Wikimedia? If not, would it be OK to link to the external media? melikamp (talk) 04:19, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright status of lyrics and music 

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message: No insult intended, this is probably the worst article on Wikipedia I've ever read. This reads more like a never ending biography for a library than an article for an encyclopedia. 178.191.180.14 (talk) 16:24, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style of the article