Talk:Jean-Bertrand Aristide

message: Doesn't this section fall under the definition of original research, i.e. using source material in support of claims that, themselves, are not cited? 24.22.217.162 (talk) 02:12, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not original research. It's factually accurate to say "President X of Country Y said this about Aristide in a 2005 cable revealed by through wikileaks." But The wiki policy is that secondary sources are preferred. I don't think most of this is really appropriate or necessary. We don't need the play-by-play of diplomatic discussions about his return to the country. Flyte35 (talk) 17:38, 20 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikileaks and Aristide

message: Aristide is a controversial figure, with strong supporters and detractors, but the tone of some segments, particularly (at least to my eye) regarding more recent events surrounding his return to Haiti, really needs to be cleaned up and presented in a neutral tone (e.g., "Former Haiti President Jean-Bertrand Aristide is once again in the cross-hairs of the US government"  For all I know that's true, but that's not the tone of an encyclopedia entry).  I could do it, but I'd really rather someone more familiar with the subject matter take a sweep through and tackle it.
AndrewThespis (talk) 23:48, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality of language definitely needs to be cleaned up. 

message: Much of what the author(s) have said may be true, but the article needs to be re-written from a neutral point of view.  Present the facts and let the readers draw their own conclusions.  For example, accusations against the United States should not be in the first paragraph.  Allegations of human rights abuses should not be qualified before they are actually presented.  Phrases like "But more serious complaints," "Aristide is once again in the cross-hairs of the US government"
"...the "little priest" was elected President in 1990 with 67% of the vote in what is generally recognized as the first honest election in Haitian history" - Well written for a book but not neutral. As opposed to "Aristide was elected President in 1990 with 67% of the vote in Haiti's first democratic election." 
"...he attempted to carry out substantial reforms" instead of "he attempted to carry out reforms such as bringing the military under civilian control..."
Etc., etc.  Again this would work well for a book, but not as a neutral article for wikipedia. Thanks for writing it though.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.47.241.222 (talk) 17:25, 7 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually- "he attempted to carry out reforms such as bringing the military under civilian control..." is very informative and important. The KINDS of reforms he attempted to carry out are just as important as the fact that he tried to carry them out. Reform simply means to change, so "substantial reforms" could mean right-wing or left-wing changes. Understanding Aristide's policies and political stances is integral to understanding his place in history.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Vladimir Hendrix (talk • contribs) 20:42, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  As others have stated, article needs to have a Neutral Point of View 

message: The phrase "the drug-affiliated government in the neighboring Dominican Republic" has been removed from the "1991 coup d'état" section. This is an extremely serious accusation that is made without support.
Of course, there may well have been cases of specific people who, at the time, worked at various levels of the Dominican government, and were involved with illicit drugs (same could be said about most governments on earth). But even if that claim was supported by sources (it isn't), it would not make the government, any government, "drug affiliated", whatever that means.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Virgrod (talk • contribs) 11:55, 3 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsupported claims against the Dominican government 

message: The article ends in 2011. So what has the subject been up to since then?  SmokeyTheCat 18:58, 16 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That's good question. Charles Essie (talk) 17:10, 11 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recently ? 

message: Aristide at the very least officially recognized voodoo as legitimate religion, and some online sources suggest he practices it himself. That's pretty notable, especially for a former Catholic priest. 76.119.30.87 (talk) 05:08, 5 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aristide and voodoo 

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I'm watching this documentary which covers Aristide. Do you think this is a good resource for the page? --174.62.105.153 (talk) 02:31, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
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message: The line "the United States helped orchestrate the coup against him" is not only rather vague, but also sourced only by what appear to be unreliable sources. Two are for the same Radiomundoreal article, and I was unable to find the Xinhua article. As I'm not particularly knowledgeable about the subject I rewrote the line in accordance with the remaining source in the sentence as a guide, in accordance with BLP. Perhaps someone more knowledgeable about the topic could expand on it in the article. Darthkayak (talk) 14:08, 22 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources in the Introduction 

message: The last paragraph at the end of the "1991 coup d'etat" section has two references to a source named Nairn, without an introduction. Who is this? Is it Allan Nairn, author of "Haiti Under the Gun"? If so, can this be cited?
Halochip (talk) 22:25, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphan reference to Nairn