Talk:Newcastle, Dublin

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The result of the move request was: Moved to Newcastle, Dublin. (closed by non-admin page mover) Skarmory (talk • contribs) 22:16, 29 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Newcastle, South Dublin →  – Although it is in the county of South Dublin, the WP:COMMONNAME for the address remains County Dublin. See, for example, the address of its post office. Iveagh Gardens (talk) 18:54, 15 November 2022 (UTC)

text: * Comment. While it is true that the county/council were abolished, I'm not sure that's as relevant to the name of the subject here (the village of Newcastle) as your recommendation suggests. If not "Newcastle, County Dublin" then perhaps "Newcastle, Dublin" is preferable? I note, for example, that we don't say "Blackrock, DLR" (rather Blackrock, Dublin). Or "Dundrum, DLR" (but Dundrum, Dublin). Ditto it's not "Swords, Fingal" or "Rush, Fingal" (but Swords, Dublin and Rush, Dublin). I note, also, that Newcastle is the only member of the Villages in South Dublin or Places in South Dublin categories that use a "XXX, South Dublin" qualifier. Where needed, all the others seem to use "XXX, Dublin" or "XXX, County Dublin". If "XXX, County Dublin" is objectionable, would "Newcastle, Dublin" not be a compromise? (Certainly, as noted, "Newcastle, South Dublin" doesn't seem as relevant a WP:COMMONNAME match as the alternatives...) Guliolopez (talk) 13:51, 16 November 2022 (UTC)

text: Relisting comment: For more discussion about the ALT. Clyde!Franklin! 21:11, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Support ALT. I'm not sure what additional discussion is required, as all five contributors to this discussion have either proposed or supported the "Newcastle, Dublin" compromise. Given, granted, that each of us didn't necessarily "label" our comments with a "support" prefix, I'm doing so now. To confirm that I support the compromise proposal. (Which myself and Spleodrach proposed on 16 Nov, Iveagh Gardens (as nom) confirmed as an ALT they supported, and SeoR and Laurel Lodged acknowledged as an acceptable (if not ideal) compromise on 21 Nov.) Otherwise, in all honesty, I'm not sure what additional discussion is needed. Are there practical questions about the ALT that need to be addressed? Guliolopez (talk) 13:33, 23 November 2022 (UTC)

text: Comment: I do acknowledge the distinction  makes between the city and the county, which I why my original proposal was for County Dublin as the disamibguator. I've been persuaded that for consistency with Swords and Rush, similarly far if not further from the urban centre of the capital, that , Dublin suffices. I wouldn't be opposed to a core vs. county distinction, were such a discussion to arise on WP:IMOS. Titles should probably reflect usage elsewhere on Wikipedia, where we have e.g. for Patrick Little, "Born in Dundrum, County Dublin". But that's a matter for another discussion, and as far as this discussion goes, I believe there's consensus for Newcastle, Dublin, for the consistency argument proposed by . Iveagh Gardens (talk) 13:04, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 15 November 2022