Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Hong Kong/Archive 1

message: *(1) Category:British-Hong Kong people
Could someone create :Category:British-Hong Kong people ? There are many British official in the government and lawyer. Matthew_hk tc talk 05:42, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of WikiProjects (ideas) 

message: *Kwok Ka Ming, Lam Sheung Yee Matthew_hk tc talk 06:01, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Request people (editors looking for help, or who wants to be added

message: Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory.  This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.  B2T2 15:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project directory 

message: I am a newcomer to this project.  Please tell me if I did something wrong.  So, what is our task in this project?  --Jacklau96 13:08, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for helping the project. This project is "to creating, organizing and improving all Hong Kong-related articles. It is hoped that through this project a co-ordinated effort will develop in raising the quality of Hong Kong articles".Shrimp wong 15:19, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  You can also read Wikipedia:HK wikipedians' notice board/to do and see if any task you will be interested.Shrimp wong 15:39, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help 

message: maybe this can be our userbox --Jacklau96 04:02, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The background of the text area shouldn't be red - it's too distracting. - jlao 04 07:54, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks good. I like it.(I agree that the color is a little bit too sharp)
NB. I am sorry to tell you that I remove your same message on the same page so that other Wikipedians can comment in a better way. Shrimp wong 15:46, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Looks good so far. The link within the userbox should point back to WikiProject Hong Kong and not the Hong Kong portal. This will better co-ordinate efforts.Luke! 03:20, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: From Jacklau96

message: Can't my reasoning work? or I just said something no one believe or no one understand? Can all the one who describe Hong Kong as a country give me their reasonings and links?Ksyrie
:First of all, define country. It means different things in different places. Like one would say UK is a country, not England/Scotland etc. But in fact they call themselves countries. UK is a union of countries. I'd call that a nation. A nation can be made up of several countries (in UK's situation) or just a single country with states, provinces, etc (in USA's case). In United Nations or international organisations they are treated as a single identity. But like the situation of UK is pretty rare, so the term nation and country has corrupted since and thus created much troubles.
:Hong Kong is not a country nor a nation. according to HK's Basic Law it is a part of People's Republic of China. And I'm sure you know PRC is a country/nation. It is treated as a country/nation on certain levels based on it is self governing, having its own laws and regulations. So if you have to put it as a country/nation level you have to put Hong Kong, China at the very least. matt-(my page-leave me a message) 06:24, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You'd better familiarise with the terms country, nation and sovereign state first. :-D — Instantnood 11:51, 19 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I think Hong Kong SAR is also OK. --Raphaelmak 02:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Hong Kong is not a country, but like some other special territories (Macau, Taiwan, Gibraltar, etc.) that are not recognised as countries, it is treated as an independent entity for certain purposes (e.g. it has its own Internet domain identifier, postal administration, "national" sports teams, etc.)  I think the confusion comes when, for this reason, it appears separately from China in what is called for convenience a list of countries, but which should really be called a list of "countries and territories".  
Rodparkes 01:45, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: So finally Hong Kong are always classified as '''country'''?

message: In the "Task" section, I saw a Wikipedian want others to write about "Winston Chu".
I am not sure which "Winston Chu" need to be written in Wikipedia?
Can he or she please provide more data, for example, Winston Chu's Chinese Name, for the other?  
Shrimp wong 17:57, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The ex-chairman of Society for Protection of the Harbour, Winston Ka Sun Chu, and have some job in government. Matthew_hk tc 21:25, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Winston Chu

message: Just a notice i put it to tfd. Matthew_hk tc 08:00, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Template:Hong Kong Squad 2006 Asian Games]]

message: The concern seems to be with the amount of citations. - Malkinann 03:01, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[The Scout Association of Hong Kong]] is up for [[WP:GA/R|GA Review]]

message: Octopus card has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. -- Chez  (Discuss / Email) 00:38, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Octopus Card]] [[Wikipedia:Featured article review/Octopus card|Featured Article Review]] 

message: I have found this link (http://www.ugc.edu.hk/eng/doc/ugc/publication/report/report_integration_matters_e.pdf) for the article. Please kindly read if it is useful for improving the article. Shrimp wong 05:30, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Hong Kong Institute of Education]]

message: Can someone please translate the Li Ching article from chinese (from zh.wikipedia) to english? Thank you --Jacklau96 09:37, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Li Ching]] 

message: Do you think our project need a barnstar? If needed, who will design and draw it? Please discuss. Jacklau96 12:00, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a good idea. Luke! 14:23, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Jacklau96 has taken the time to create three proposed versions of a WikiProject Hong Kong barn star. Visit the proposed barn stars page to vote for your favourite one!Luke! 00:57, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Barnstar for our project

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 20:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: I have added some information of the Umbrella Shop.
I have sought the official website written in Chinese; the link has been added to the page. Can anyone translate the information and add them to the articles? Shrimp wong 04:16, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Leung So Kee]]

message: Do you think we should invite members to our project so we get more participants and start our COTM? --Jacklau9609:02, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inviting Members 

message: I joined; but I (and am sure, others) notice certain similarities between this WikiProject Hong Kong and the HK wikipedians' notice board (of which I am also a member).  Is there any scope for cooperation between the two groups?  E.g. the Notice Board ALREADY has a COTW (collaboration of the WEEK) -- Wikipedia:HK_wikipedians%27_notice_board/HKCOTW --mintchocicecream 08:15, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You will notice that the COTW from the HK Wikipedian's notice board is currently inactive and has been for some time. I too am also a member of the HK notice board. I stumbled upon the WikiProject Hong Kong project page a while back and found it to be quite dead in activity. As a Wikipedian from Hong Kong and for a love for Hong Kong, I sought to revive this WikiProject effort. I had revamped the project space to fall in line with other international WikiProjects. It is my hope that the HK Wikipedian's notice board will become a subset of this WikiProject - an informal discussion forum for our efforts. Over time with the help of other interested editors, I (as I'm sure others do as well) hope to introduce all the workings of a full WikiProject. It has also been noted that the notice board does not serve the same function as a WikiProject. Notice boards have traditionally been used for informal discussions. My hopes is that WikiProject Hong Kong will take off and an coordinated effort can be achieved in creating and improving Hong Kong-related articles.Luke! 08:44, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  HK wikipedians' notice board? 

message: The HKCOTM pages and templates have been set up. Be sure to stop by and nominate articles that you feel would benefit from such a collaboration. Please visit WP:HKCOTM for more information. Luke! 00:53, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What about the Collaboration of the Week? --Jacklau96 13:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hong Kong Collaboration of the Month (HKCOTM) 

message: New page created. It could use detail, an information box and pictures. - User:Kittybrewster 18:01, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article has been requested for deletion!  I am trying to save it from the scrap heap and so have come here to find someone who can help improve the article. I don't know anything about Hong Kong, but I will help with proofreading, editing, etc., once it has some more content. Please help!  Laura1822 00:47, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So far it looks like most of the votes are for keeping it.  Do you know of any specific WP rules on the notability of places and/or roads?  I've argued that it is notable for being the location of the first Magistracy in HK and that it is a popular tourism site.  And it is mentioned by the HK Tourism Board, so I would think that is enough unless there is some specific WP rules on the notability of places that contradict that assertion.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 01:09, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks so much for your quick response.  The request to delete is absurd, of course.  It seems to me that if there's not a rule against proposing an AfD for an article that's already been "claimed" by a project (i.e., there's a template on the article's discussion page stating it is a part of this project), there ought to be.  That aside, the only way to make absolutely sure that the article isn't deleted is to add something substantive to it.  Laura1822 01:16, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Expansion of a small article is always great.  But that an article is small is not criteria for deletion.  Assuming that the subject of the article is indeed notable, the small size of an article calls for expansion, not deletion.  Having said that, as far as your average HK person is concerned, I'm not sure he would know more about this road than what's been already mentioned in the article, without actual further study, that is.  Some of the HK editors might have access to books and such that might have more information, but otherwise, I think most editors, including HK editors, would basically be doing what you yourself would do to expand the article - google for information.  :-)  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 01:29, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Arbuthnot Road]]

message: Not sure if there is enough information out there for these two topics, but I added two article requests - Stanley concentration camp, and Gurkha Brigades in Hong Kong.  The first was a concentration camp that the Japanese occupying forces set up in Stanley during World War 2.  The second has to do with the Gurkha Brigades that were stationed in Hong Kong prior to the handover in 1997.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 19:26, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article requests 

message: I suggest that this project supercede or combine with WP:HKWNB as it is nearly inactive now. --Deryck C. 12:14, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm neutral to this idea, but why not just start fresh here at WPHK?  Obviously whatever was going on at HKWNB, editors have lost interest in it.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 15:16, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

text: When I was reviving WikiProject Hong Kong, it was intent and hopes that this project would supercede the Notice Board; and eventually the Notice Board would be discontinued (if possible). This was also asked earlier on above is also given above. Luke! 16:30, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  HKWNB 

message: Does anyone know how to correctly make the modifications to the current WikiProject Hong Kong infobox to include an area for article assessments? An example of this would the WikiProject Biography infobox found on Jessica Alba's talk page. Please do let me know if you can help. Luke! 07:52, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Maybe, we can copy one template from one wikiproject.  We can just change some syntax or/and words. --Jacklau96 08:18, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WPHK Infobox Assessment addition 

message: I've added Hongkonger to the list of tasks.  The article needs lots of work, and some sections are very poorly written.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 22:55, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Hongkonger]] 

message: Newly created article.  I've also listed it on this WikiProject page as an article to be assessed.  Please take a look and copy-edit as necessary.  Also, can anybody find better pictures of the domestic workers in HK?  The ones that are uploaded on WP (including commons) are not really that good.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 07:33, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Foreign domestic helpers in Hong Kong]] 

message: I have a question about :Category:Districts of Hong Kong.  Currently all the districts are actually listed in subcategories in that category.  For example, :Category:Wan Chai District is listed in that category, and in return, the article Wan Chai District is listed in Category:Wan Chai District.  My question is, should we also list all the district articles themselves in Category:Districts of Hong Kong, or should we just use the subcategories?  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 06:28, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it would be best if we list all district articles (Wan Chai District) in both the district category (Category:Wan Chai District) and the overall district (Category:Districts of Hong Kong). Does anyone else have any other rationale? Luke! 04:13, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The current guideline for categories provides that we shouldn't put both a child category and the main article of the child category into the same parent category. — Instantnood 11:53, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Districts of Hong Kong 

message: I have just written this article. Please take a look. Shrimp wong 17:25, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Lai Tak Tsuen]] 

message: Anybody care to whip the Octopus Card article back into FA class?  The main complaint that caused its removal from FA status seemed to have been poor writing style.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 02:20, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mind helping out. I'll take a look when I can. Luke! 04:14, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whip [[Octopus Card]] article back into FA status? 

message: Please join the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject China#Naming conventions.  --Ideogram 17:27, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming conventions