Talk:Ringo Sheena

message: Where did the main photo come from?  Does anyone mind if we change the photo to a non-copyright violating recent pic..?  Thanks. --Eastend 13:07, 5 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree...although she is known fairly well by "Shiina Ringo" (probably due to "Shiina" sounding a little like the more familiar name "Sheena") we should follow the standard. Kcumming 16:26, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's probably more due to the flow of it, shiinaringo flows as if it's one word, ringoshiina not as much. 82.6.83.187 05:17, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that on her own website, her name is spelled Sheena Ringo, () and the fact that Ringo is not in fact her given name, (that would be Yumiko) wouldn't it make sense to change the article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.225.176.41 (talk) 05:51, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: While I'm here, is there a reliable source that says Strip refers to striptease, as opposed to one of the dozen other meanings of the word? 82.6.83.187 08:18, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good catch.  I never noticed that.  I doubt it.  I never thought of it as meaning "striptease" and I've never seen any source, reliable or otherwise, indicating any particular meaning.　--Kcumming 20:35, 20 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I discussed this at length with a native Japanese speaker and fellow fan of Ringo. It was her opinion that it referred to "striptease." The "Shouso" in the title refers to her being so jubilant about her longtime idol Asai Kenichi agreeing to play on one of the songs on this album. I think the 'lawsuit' part is less relevant as she just needed a word that would go with the alliteration. So basically, the image here is of someone being so ecstatic about winning/getting something that they strip off all their clothes. In Japanese, that's what the word "sutorippu" almost always refers to (like a strip club, or just a plain striptease). I have thought about this a lot and I am fairly sure that's what she means here. I was the one who made the link point to "Striptease." Again, this isn't just my conclusion, but that of a Japanese speaker and Ringo fan. I would be open to other theories, this one isn't solid, but I haven't seen any better ones, and 'sutorippu' in Japanese, again, almost always does have the meaning of striptease. Frecklegirl 00:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I saw that on your website, and it does make a certain kind of sense.  However, it is, in the end, something we can't back up.  If we want to put something like what you just wrote in the notes and qualify that this is only the most likely interpretation, I think that would be the most appropriate.--Kcumming 15:06, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: With respect, someone being a native speaker of Japanese makes their interpretation of this song title no more relevant than anyone else's. Without solid facts to back things up we can't really make the link based on what our own speculations. I had never made the connection between the song title and a strip tease, always thinking it was either meant meant in the geographical sense or even as a winning run at something (gambling for example). Still, at the end of the day this is just my interpretation which without facts is no more valid or correct that anyone elses. I think until we get a citation to prove what the title is eluding to we should avoid any links. ShizuokaSensei 23:36, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, I am not 100% sure myself, but we have to consider the meaning of the word in Japanese, rather than its myriad English meanings. 'sutorippu' in Japanese almost never refers to geographic strip, for example. That was my main point--no matter what impression we get as English speakers, its Japanese usage is rather more limited, and that is why 'striptease' remains the most likely translation, for now. Frecklegirl 04:46, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Shouso Strip

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message: does the history with Courtney Love has some reference???  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.111.61.131 (talk) 22:01, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Courtney??? 

message: Hi, I was pretty sure, that Shiina wasn't born in Fukuoka, but many sources say so, one for example her offical page on kronekodow.com (1978年11月25日生まれ　午年　福岡市出身) but also many pages that say something else. Does someone know more?
All I know from hearsay is, she was born somewhere else, but shortly after her birth moved to Fukuoka and grow up there. --R0pe-196 (talk) 11:29, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Currently the Infobox has her born in Fukuoka, but the article text has Urawa. Both claims seem to cite web sources, but both links are broken (or at least unreadable with my browser). Cnilep (talk) 04:18, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Place of birth ? 

message: Editors, please read WP:LINKSTOAVOID and WP:SPAM. Also, sites that have lyrics are almost always infringe on copyright, and when they do, they cannot be included as links in Wikipedia for any reason. Piano non troppo (talk) 07:46, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For discussion: was the Tokyo Jihen link useful and relevant? Thoughts are welcome. Luminifer (talk) 22:45, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: To clarify external linking to lyrics: 
As background, no Wikipedia main article may link to a site that violates the law.
Lyrics copyrighted after 1922 are protected by international copyright law (unless, for example, the owner themselves published the lyrics without a copyright notice). This means that to publish lyrics legally on the Web, you must be the owner, or have written permission from the owner to do so, or you must have proof the lyrics are in the public domain. The lyrics that were linked to here did not appear to be done by the owner. They also had no copyright information, which may mean that the site owner is unaware or ignoring copyright. Piano non troppo (talk) 23:41, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarification about linking lyrics

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