Talk:2K12 Kub

message: I'm pretty sure it is command guided - every web source I can find says it is. A.R. can you provide a source that claims it isn't ? Megapixie 02:32, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just checked Janes (Janes land based air defence 2005-6) - and it also states that the missile is command guided (or at least receives mid course guidance correction). Megapixie 06:08, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Corresponding Russian term is zenith guided missile with a semi-active self-homing head (зенитная управляемая ракета с полуактивной головкой самонаведения). Semi-active does mean guidance correction. Guidance correction does mean command guidance. Still, this rocket may operate completely without in-flight guidance, but that would significantly decrease it's perfomance. --Yuriy Lapitskiy ~ 16:53, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Active head (so the missile with it does not need any form of in-flight guidance at all) was not available at that time. Developments of such missiles are underway only 'today'. --Yuriy Lapitskiy ~ 17:01, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Command Guided?

message: In particular the 4x fracticides claim. A quick review of the sources doesn't bring anything up. Thanks Megapixie 03:23, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History section

message: There is no such thing as a 3M9 TEL.  3M9, 3M9M and 3M9M3 are missile designations.  The TELs are designated 2P25. Frank D 16:56, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect designations. 

message: Is there any indications as to why there was no shipboard version of the missile as there were for almost every other Soviet SAM system? For a time, it was believed (by NATO, at least) that the SA-N-3 was a derivative of the SA-6, but now that we know this not to be the case, what are the reasons why this rather formidable system was not navalized?--172.190.41.82 (talk) 21:56, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why no naval version? 

message: The 2K12M version of Kub missile system is still operational in Poland. Planned to be replaced in "Narew" modernization program, but this to be concluded around 2018-2022. About 20 TELARs are in service in Polish Land Forces.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_equipment_of_the_Polish_Land_Forces#Vehicles
http://dziennikzbrojny.pl/artykuly/art,2,4,8146,armie-swiata,wojsko-polskie,stan-realizacji-programu-obrony-powietrznej  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.67.151.131 (talk) 20:35, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Still in use in Poland 

message: It is my opinion that the section about relative ineffectiveness in shooting down aircraft should be edited, since there are a wide variety of things that an IADS can do to be useful that are not shooting down aircraft.  If a bomb-laden aircraft can be forced to jettison its load in the middle of nowhere, that is a success.  Focusing overly much on shooting down aircraft does not paint a terribly accurate picture of how the role of the system in the campaigns and betrays a lack of expertise on the part of whoever wrote that sentence or two about how air defenses work.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.74.135.218 (talk) 23:59, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Except that is what we have to go on from the sources. Adding information on virtual attrition would require the sources to discuss it or else it becomes WP:SYNTH. - The Bushranger One ping only 08:23, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bosnia and Kosovo 

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