Talk:Cephalopod intelligence

message: I've read that octopuses don't have very good control over the ends of their tentacles. This page, on the other hand, says that cephalopod dexterity equals that of humans. Could someone more knowledgeable determine what the truth about their dexterity is>? SteveSims 03:00, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "One particularly clever octopus called Otto has been known to juggle his fellow tankmates around out of boredom, as well as throwing rocks and smashing the aquarium glass. On more than one occasion he even caused short circuits by crawling out of his tank and shooting a jet of water at the overhead lamp." 
I find this hard to believe, even though the link is on a well known news site. According to the news site Otto also redecorates his tank frequently out of boredom. LiamSP (talk) 00:15, 2 June 2010 (UTC)

text: At risk of sounding facetious, it actually states that they're "as efficient at grasping objects" which doesn't necessarily imply they're as dextrous. I do know, however, that octopodes are capable of certain complex dextrous tasks, the stereotypical example being their ability to open jam jars. If the videos I've seen are anything to go by, they tend to use the parts of their tentacles closer to their bodies... --Xanthine 15:32, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Also, this might be the worst worded sentence I've ever read: "However unlike vertebrates the motor skills of octopuses do not depend upon mapping the body within their brains with the ability to organize complex movements not being linked to particular arms"  After reading it three times, I'm still not sure what it is supposed to mean. 128.143.74.158 (talk) 03:45, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Dexterity

message: Just how intelligent are they? What experiments/studies, conducted by whom, have shown it? What controversies exist in the academic community about this (they do, that much I get from the web links)? We need more details about the lifestyle - BTW, there are differences between the lifestyles of different cephalopods (squid are swift, active swimmers, while octopuses are mostly slow sea-bottom crawlers). Who says that octopus arms are as efficient as the human hand? Precisely how is the cephalopod nervous system unlike that of vertebrates, and how is it unlike that of other molluscs? We need more info, and from the first-hand academic sources, too - otherwise the whole article adds so little new information that it had better be merged into cephalopod.--194.145.161.227 12:18, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What needs expanding. 

message: Recent article, a good backgrounder:  -- Kendrick7talk 17:47, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference 

message: Monkeys can produce art and thus express their emotions. Is cephalopods capable of this too? --Ysangkok (talk) 21:35, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Art 

message: many ants use tools, the statement about them being the only ones that use tools should be removed.  I'm sure there are other inverts that do as well.--FUNKAMATIC   ~talk 04:28, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tools? 

message: In this serious article about how intelligent they are do we really need a link at the bottom to Paul the Octopus?  No one seriously thinks they are smart enough to tell which team of people is likely to win a sports match.69.150.180.198 (talk) 06:03, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  inappropriate link 

message: Authors of this article may be interested to know that it has been quoted on page 788 of The UFAW Handbook on the Care and Management of Laboratory and Other Research Animals --Anthonyhcole (talk) 08:59, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article quoted 

message: The Spanish Octopus Research Institute have documented a population of originally solitary octopuses that started hunting collectively when the supply of small prey dwindled so they had to cooperatively hunt larger prey. They invented new signals to coordinate their hunting. That is documented.
I have also read something about originally solitary cuttlefish becoming social by observing interaction among human divers. They then started raising their young (they originally just left their eggs) unrelated adults rearing the young collectively, and they also started taming eels and riding them. Can anyone help find the references for the latter?
95.209.46.39 (talk) 08:59, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Solitary species becoming social by learning. 

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message: Recalling the Monkey selfie copyright dispute and resulting public domain photographs now hosted on Wikimedia Commons, photographs taken by Cephalopods might be a good addition to this article.
*https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/22/opinion/earth-day-octopus-teacher.html
*https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/speaking-of-science/wp/2015/03/04/the-octopus-that-figured-out-how-to-work-a-camera/
There was a story about such photographs today in the New York Times, and 2015 in the Washington Post.
PK-WIKI (talk) 16:44, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I've update Craig Foster (filmmaker) with  PK-WIKI (talk) 17:41, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photographs taken by an octopus