Talk:Poverty threshold

message: This will very likely be reverted, but I removed some content under the heading "Relative poverty versus inequality" and changed the name of the section. The removed text did not appear to be sourced to the World Bank reference. The content regarded some absurdities such as the fact that a household earning $100,000/year in a district where the median income was $1,000,000/year would be considered "poor." The highest income counties in the US have a median income of about $120,000, so a household earning 10% of the median income would still earn only $12,000/year.
Then it explains how that if society changed in a way that hurt the wealthy more than the poor, everyone would be worse off. I'm not certain as to how reducing income inequality would harm low-income people; perhaps the idea is that the redistribution would harm median earners as well as the wealthy. It is at best a parlor game and a diversion from the theme of the article. We have just read about people with no access to drinking water, and then are told that somehow even these people would be "worse off" if the wealthy were bereft of some of their income. Roches (talk) 17:33, 26 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relative poverty versus inequality 

message: This article is more a description of the World Bank's IPL than "poverty threshold" as a concept. The lede is biased towards the World Banks' definition and needs to be re-written more neutrally to take into account other economists' views of what the IPL is.Egaoblai (talk) 19:35, 12 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  World Bank IPL 

message: We could use some more eyes on this:  Talk:List_of_common_misconceptions#poverty.  Also, there is the question of whether the proposed misconception should be added to this or another article on poverty.  --David Tornheim (talk) 02:06, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is poverty decreasing? 

message: It is a concept that clearly has stand-alone notability. It can be mentioned and summarized here, but should be discussed in-depth it its own article. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 05:53, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say Nah, or at best not yet. We need sufficient detail here to contrast with absolute, which is very important in light of the fuzziness of the whole concept (e.g., number of people per household varies widely). How much more depth do you suggest? Martindo (talk) 03:49, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relative poverty should be split into its own article 

message: Going by the linked sources, the article improperly confounds data from different eras, partly ignoring the current situation mentioned in those sources, while acting it would all be data from the same time period, i. e. today.
At first, the average poverty rate for all Americans in 2018 is listed, which was 13.1%. This is then followed shortly after by contrasting the average poverty rate in 2008 (12.3%) with that of women (13.8%) and of men of (11.1%), without giving any year at all for those latter figures within the article text itself, which also cannot be discerned from the given sources, while acting like all those figures would date from the same time period and even talking in the present tense, as if it would be referring to the current situation throughout, stating (without proper evidence in these sources) that the current average rate would be higher for women than for the average American.
Furthermore, one of the three sources given for the above has been permanently depublished and the entire website (which, according to the footnote, dates from 2008) closed down, while the other source that is still available has data from 2020 instead that looks very different, with 12.6% for women, which is decidedly *BELOW* the average powerty rate for all Americans mentioned in the third source referring to 2018. --2003:EF:170A:9264:AD00:5B17:72A9:6BA0 (talk) 13:11, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gender gap in the US 

message: The bot restored <ref name WBPL> and <ref name PLWB> but those are both outdated, accessed Jan 2022 when the actual report was issued later in 2022 with higher figures. See WB Fact Sheet cited before "(in PPP)" earlier in the second paragraph. It contains a link to this report with detailed stats including lower-middle and upper-middle "lines": https://documents.worldbank.org/en/publication/documents-reports/documentdetail/353811645450974574/assessing-the-impact-of-the-2017-ppps-on-the-international-poverty-line-and-global-poverty 
I hope a human can straighten out the citations along with updating the remaining data. Martindo (talk) 07:11, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update the lede