Talk:European plaice

message: Re-inserted 'abundant' which was removed because the editor claims they are overfished. Overfishing and abundance are not mutually exclusive, abundance is a specific ecological term referring to population density.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Celticbattlepants (talk • contribs) 2006-04-28 19:23:55  (UTC)
:If so, it might be a good idea to wikilink "abundant" to an explanation of the particular technical meaning you have in mind. Otherwise it will inevitably be read as the everyday meaning. Henning Makholm 23:06, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is another link to a peer-reviewed article, read the first parapgraph of the introduction report. Another (lengthy) CEFAS Report with relative abundance data in the Western English Channel, again showing plaice and sole the two most abundant flatfish species in this area. One final link here. Look at page 6. The estimated numbers of plaice in ICES division IV (North Sea) in 1998, was approximately 250 million.Celticbattlepants 10:04, 5 May 2006 (UTC)

text: There is a consensus on the view of abundance, as I explained above. Terms such as 'outside safe biological limits' 'overfished' etc, refer to MSY and fisheries management. MSY and management are aimed at maximising a harvest. Abundance is an ecological term that refers to the likelihood of encountering an individual of a species over its range, there is no value judgement attached to the term. However, if you feel that using the word abundant gives an impression to readers, perhaps you can add the stock advice from ICES and other statutory bodies (JNCC etc), as I feel that removing the word gives the wrong impression. Your own, please dont take offence, confusion regarding the meaning of the two terms warrants this. If you like I can add a section on fisheries and then a qualifier for the word abundant to show the terms are not linked.Celticbattlepants 12:36, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I am working (slowly) on compiling this. I am in the middle of fieldwork and preparing a manuscript to be submitted for publication (nearly done). Once I have a bit more time, I will add a small section on fisheries, as I have already started it. I am having a hard time aimimg at the right level, so am fully expecting some help in editing once I have written and submitted it.Celticbattlepants 22:18, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
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message: Hello! I have recently done a project at university on the European Plaice. I want to add in some new references and update a couple of facts. Anna2624 (talk) 09:27, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
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message: I have updated the information on age and size. Previous information said maximum size of 100 cm and 50 years. This information originates from a fish id book which does not provide references for the information, and is unlikely to be accurate and cannot be verified.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Clumpus (talk • contribs) 12:15, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age and size