Talk:David Healy (psychiatrist)

message: One of the things I dislike of the plain claim that antidepressants cause suicide, a claim very common in Citizens Commission on Human Rights, is that it’s a jump.  The right way to formulate the claim is something like this: “It has been proven that a number of people on antidepressants, and even more on neuroleptics, suffer from akathisia: a state of extreme inner anxiety.  As a result, in some cases such psychiatric drugs may be iatrogenic.  Some of the people with a previous mental history may commit suicide in order to escape the torment of akathisia”. —Cesar Tort 00:49, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This remains controversial but is far from the "leaps of logic" presented here. While it is clear that the act of suicide is not a simplisitic cause/effect outcome of taking the anti-depressants as many people take these drugs and are not killing themselves in a lemming-like action, studies have shown that there is indeed an effect and an increased risk of suicide as an outcome - especially at start of medication and when dose is increased. Healy has said more than once that he is not against the use of the drugs, but is clear about careful case management and awareness of risk. The reaction by many in the physchiatric and pharmaceutical establishement has been fear mongering that the black box warnings would cause reduction in use and result in an increase in suicide, but this has been shown by various studies not to be the case. Suicide is a major cause of death in teens and young adults therefore caution would be common sense. The fact of the potential effect of these drugs is beyond question. Hardly a leap of logic. Szimonsays 209.90.146.46 (talk) 23:20, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leaps of logic  

message: I know that a lot of material in this article is real because I am active in it's area of study. Many will wonder where it all comes from though. There are a few references, but the article needs much more especially on this subject with suicide being discussed, there MUST be clear citations and references. DJ Barney 13:08, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References and Sources 

message: This reads like an essay. It appears to be one sided and seeks to sway the readers opinion. It needs work. Essay tag was added as was POV tag. This style creates bias.--scuro (talk) 23:50, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: this reads like an essay

message: This article needs more sources, especially as it's WP:BLP and also deals with with a controversial issue.Autarch (talk) 13:59, 12 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The article has been improved a lot since 2010, but some of the external links could be used as references, to further support existing text and expand it. Johnfos (talk) 10:04, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  More sources needed 

message: Please see the section above regarding the incorrect description of legislation passed in the aftermath of the thalidomide tragedy in the "History of Pharmacology" section. 
I dont' have a copy of Healy's Pharmageddon book, but I googled "David Healy thalidomide" and ran across his description of the 1962 U.S. legislation in his book "antidepressant era".  It seems that he understands the legislation we were discussing quite well, and that he was misquoted by some previous editor who wrote the Wikipedia article. I suggest that we could best deal with the specific issue we discussed by deleting the paragraph, which seems to misrepresent both history and Healy's views.   http://books.google.com/books?id=6lpHd_P4VOsC&pg=PA26&lpg=PA26&dq=david+healy+thalidomide&source=bl&ots=83OVPiZfHR&sig=7QxL0yjUYxb5uyVpI6Q3_Vd4VUY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=wQnOUojuBYjyoATtvIDIDQ&ved=0CGsQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=david%20healy%20thalidomide&f=false  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Formerly 98 (talk • contribs) 14:05, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misinterpreted/ misquoted flag 

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message: He has also said that pharmaceutical companies sell drugs by marketing diseases...
:Does this mean propagating scare-stories that over-emphasise the dangers of certain diseases to individuals or the risks to society? There must be a better phrase than 'marketing diseases'. Valetude (talk) 23:33, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marketing diseases?