Talk:Peggy Mitchell

message: No references, yeah that's it. The captions could do with full stops too. Yeah. Highway Batman! 21:34, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, perhaps more importantly, is that the article is entirely written from an "in universe" perspective, which is contrary to the Manual of Style. Please read the Writing About Fiction Guideline for ideas on how to rewrite the article in an encyclopedic style. Phidauex 21:51, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ga Failing  

message: Does anyone else feel that this section is not needed in this article? They each have their own article and the information is not really relevant to Peggy's storylines Gungadin 15:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree Trampikey (talk to me)(contribs) 18:41, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grandchildren section 

message: Barbara pleads for less Peggy romance? - ironic with the reported love interest of Archie Mitchell? anemone│projectors 12:17, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  possible sources 

message: "That “Kill him!” Oh, I didn’t want to do that. But there we go, she didn’t know what she was saying, she was having a nervous breakdown." . Thought it would be interesting if the development section is expanded to include her marriage to Archie. AnemoneProjectors (what?) 18:03, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quote 

message: It has been revealed during Peggy's political campaign that she was a pole dancer for the '60s gangland.  Everyone in Walford found out about this part of her past and Peggy gradually became open towards it and used it in her speech at The Vic.
I find it absolutely ludicrous that people won't accept her as a fictional erotic dancer, however, I am given the power to anyone so it could be a democratic poll.  Remember Peggy's pole dancing photo was on the Walford Gazette and she even put a photograph of this in her pub.
Please consider carefully about this.
Yours sincerely,
The 12th Doctor 
Regular Editor of EastEnders
P.S. The power is in your hands.  Do not be dictated.--The Twelfth Doctor (talk) 19:39, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not that we don't accept that she was once an erotic dancer, it's just that it's not important nor is it defining of her character. I honestly don't see the point of this, because Wikipedia doesn't work on a number of votes, it works on consensus, and consensus has already been reached with the creation of the WP:CAT guideline. AnemoneProjectors (what?) 19:52, 3 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Twelfth Doctor, have you actually read WP:CAT and taken on board the comments of the multiple editors who've now explained this to you? It seems that your rationale for inclusion is unchanging, and as such, you're just going to be met with the same response repeatedly... Frickative 20:06, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this argument still going on?! I agree that the category shouldn't be included but maybe a line or two about the work she did back then could be included in her backstory? Is that a reasonable solution?Cutekitten05 (talk) 18:04, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  VOTE NOW! Should Peggy Mitchell be on the Fictional erotic dancers category. 

message: I just lost my internet connection as I sent this, but never mind... Barbara Windsor was interviewed today by Dale Winton on Steve Wright's Radio 2 show, and lots of stuff was mentioned that could be used here. She said she bases Peggy on three people, one of them being Vi Kray, and apparently she denied that before. And she talked about kissing scenes being cut. I didn't hear the whole thing but it should be in iPlayer later. I would strongly recommend that someone listens to it for inclusion in this article before it's no longer available (after a week). Also, don't forget she's on Alan Carr's Chatty Man this Sunday, so maybe we can get some info from that too. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:04, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Too late! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 12:14, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a shame, but you can put in the personality bit that she has later retracted the comment about Vi Kray in 2009, claiming that she has influenced her portrayal of Peggy.GunGagdinMoan 12:50, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The three people she said she bases Peggy on are Vi Kray, her mother and Mike Reid. She said she refused to do kissing scenes with Larry Lamb because fans of the show don't want to see people of their age kissing! Not sure how to cite a radio show. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 12:52, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mike Reid! I dont see the similarity, Babs.GunGagdinMoan 15:46, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Something to do with her personality, maybe her Cockneyness. Can't really remember! But she did say Mike Reid! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:46, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dale Winton and Alan Carr (Peggy's characterisation) 

message: Just wanted to flag this up for discussion - if we're aiming for GA, I think having 7 pieces of non-free media in the article is too much. I think the infobox images and Peggy in 1995 are perfectly justifiable on the grounds of visual identification, and the post re-cast image is well discussed in the creation section, but I don't think the others are as easily defensible. The screenshots are iconic moments, but, we don't discuss the images themselves, and don't really need illustration to show that Peggy and Frank got married, or that Peggy got a bit slap-happy. Same with the last one, it's interesting that Peggy was spoofed on 2D:TV, but we don't have anything discussing the image itself, so it's not really serving an encyclopaedic purpose. Same again with the sound file - although we reference that it is her catchphrase, we don't need to hear her say it to know that, and though I've had a search, I haven't been able to find any additional sources to bolster it, such as why that phrase was decided on, who developed it etc. Although I don't think the article would be straight out failed on the grounds of too much non-free content, Wikipedia seems to be getting a lot tougher on copyright issues of late, and I think a decent review would ask for at least a few to be cut, so we may as well discuss ahead of time which we could bear to lose. Frickative 20:34, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should lose the 2DTV, wedding and slap pictures. I'm wondering if we can get away with the sound file, though I wouldn't miss it if it went. Talking of images, I actually think it looks kind of maybe a bit sort of odd with the free images! Even though it was kind of my idea to use them in articles. Not saying they should go, it's a good idea :) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:00, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ha, I know what you mean about the free images, it was kind of pushing it to make some of them relevant to the sections they were placed in. It was really hard to read the text through with it all unbroken for paragraphs upon paragraphs at a time though. Once I've finished expanding the development section, I'll maybe see about switching some out for text boxes of quotes or something that'll do the same job of breaking the page up a bit. I sort of ridiculously really want to use one of BoJo though! Frickative 22:36, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There's quite a bit of commentary about the slap scene at the end of the Frank development section, so i'm wondering if that one is ok to keep, moving it there?GunGagdinMoan 16:02, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-free media 

message: For those who keep adding this to the infobox: Windsor may want to return in 2012, but notghing has been confirmed, so until that happens, the duration should not state that she will definitely return in 2012.GunGagdinMoan 16:55, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly, she just said she wants to come back. It doesn't mean she will. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:17, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It has just been confirmed that there are no plans for Peggy to return in 2012 - or any other time. She has effectively left the show for good (any talk of return is pure speculation at the moment).  Familiae Watt§ (talk) 16:30, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: We knew that there were no plans for her to return in 2012 because it was just her saying she wanted to. It doesn't mean she never will return. They're just saying they haven't entered into discussions, not that she won't return. It makes sense seeing as they haven't even planned her departure yet. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:41, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I included the link so as to forestall people from modifying over the confusion of her coming back. Of course she could return - Reg Cox could return - but until there is an announcement to the contrary, she is not coming back. I remember all the speculation and assumptions about Sharon returning after her departure in 06. I was probably a bit dramatic is saying "for good" but in my defense I did qualify the statement. Familiae Watt§ (talk) 17:00, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm still waiting for Sharon to return from her temporary departure. They way she left made it seem like she was only going for a few months. At least with Peggy, it's clear that she has quit and may not return. But deep down we all know she will. Reg Cox will return for the very last episode when it turns out it was all a dream. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 17:09, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: lol! I do agree, deep down, that she will be back. And agree 100% on Sharon too - imo Harwood did really poor exits (only Dennis' was any good). Familiae Watt§ (talk) 17:19, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  2012 

message: There's a short interview with Steve McFadden in next week's Radio Times about the casting of Barbara Windsor. If no one else can get access to it then I'll try to find some time to incorporate the info. Bradley0110 (talk) 11:55, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I won't be buying it specially so it would be really helpful, thanks! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 12:31, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey nice tidbits! Thanks for doing that. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:41, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creation 

message: I found the sound clip to be far too loud. Is it just my speakers or do we need a quieter alternative?--Editor510 drop us a line, mate 20:15, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I will obtain a cleaner one. --GSorbyDesroid 21:04, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it is rather loud. GSorbyDesroid do you know how to do sounds for Wikipedia? AnemoneProjectors 01:08, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. It's in .ogg format right? --GSorbyDesroid 10:37, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. I just tried to listen to it and the speakers crackled under the tremendous volume! At least I can trust some people on Wikipedia to be nice to a simple request :) --Editor510 drop us a line, mate 09:44, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes! I'm just about to do. I think Trampikey just put a mic up to the speakers, hence why it's really distorted and loud. --GSorbyDesroid 10:23, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes that's what I think he did as well, which is really silly. I think he did the theme tune clip in the same way. That that one's not too bad because music samples are meant to be low quality on Wikipedia. AnemoneProjectors 10:28, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Done! It's a lot cleaner too! Can I say that I cried in last nights episode! :'( --GSorbyDesroid 10:52, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Good job. Was that from the "I heart Peggy" site? Cos it's the exact same clip. AnemoneProjectors 11:15, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it was from the 'I heart Peggy' site. :) --GSorbyDesroid 11:37, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to thank you for your quick response. You really are all saints.--Editor510 drop us a line, mate 16:53, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sound clip 

message: Peggy needs a new pic because the one she has is 2 years old.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.14.23.57 (talk) 20:14, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No she doesn't. Image don't need to be updated. The one we have is fine, it shows the character in a typical look. AnemoneProjectors 20:24, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, she hasnt changed in those 2 years anyway. Same wig, and unless you've counted the wrinkles, her face  hasnt changed either. I cant keep up with all these image changes. They are getting changed every other day in some cases and not all of them are improvements. I dont see the point.GunGagdinMoan 12:32, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: New image

message: I think Peggy's duration should be like this: 1994–2003, 2004, 2005–10, 2013, seeming as the break she took in 2003 was more than a year long, like Phil's duration. Tinamckintyre23 (Come and talk!) 10:19, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think WP:EE uses a calendar year though.Rain the 1 17:10, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, we use a calendar year, so even if the break was 3 months or 23 months, as long as she left in 2003 and returned in 2004, we combine it. –AnemoneProjectors– 19:04, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes and I think we should keep it like that, these infoboxes get so cluttered! Bleaney (talk) 19:25, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

text: As I recall she did return in 2004 for 1 or 2 episodes... wasn't it for Sams's wedding to Andy? Bleaney (talk)
The article says "returning briefly to attend her daughter Sam's wedding to local businessman Andy Hunter" which was indeed in 2004. Stephenb (Talk) 17:58, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

text: Andy Hunter's last episode was 18 February 2005, according to his article. Stephenb (Talk) 20:18, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

text: Funny - the writer of this article  must be psychic, then, as it was written in February 2005...? Please stop disrupting articles. Stephenb (Talk) 21:13, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

text: And to add to that, I've just checked YouTube too, and he doesn't appear in that episode, of course. Stephenb (Talk) 21:20, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

text: I doubt that. Link? Stephenb (Talk) 21:50, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

text: Please do.  And very clever of you to avoid the Tag "Mobile edit" for that last post here... Stephenb (Talk) 09:09, 23 July 2013 (UTC)

text: I've just checked IMDB and according to this Andy Hunter did not appear in the episode dated 26th May 2005.  Maybe you watched a different episode on Youtube?  Either way please stop trying to disrupt articles or one of us admins will have to become involved--5 albert square (talk) 23:27, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Andy Hunter's last appearance was on 18 February 2005 as was Den Watts' last appearance. They both died on the same episode. Peggy Mitchell returned on 16 & 17 September 2004 for the wedding of her daughter and Andy. Tinamcintyre23, do us all a favour and please stop making things up as it is getting on everyone's nerves. Thank you. GeorgePing! 00:07, 25 July 2013 (UTC)

text: No, it was always a calendar year, not 12 months. It was agreed by WikiProject EastEnders members. –AnemoneProjectors– 21:02, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duration change! 

message: Peggy wasn't living in Cornwall in 2013 she was holidaying there, with Phil planning to meet her with Lexi. When she returned in September 2013 she mentioned getting a flight to London, and said she wasn't staying and was going back to Portugal, so she was already living in Portugal by this point. This article is misleading. As is the part about visiting Dot following Nick's death as it implies that she knew about Nick's death and showed up to help Dot - when, in reality, she actually showed up to have a go at her over Nick cutting the brakes and setting up Phil.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.18.222.223 (talk) 13:35, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: 2013

message: I don't know if I agree with the image of a near death Peggy being used here. And if we are to use it, can we make it so that it's better cropped? GunGagdinMoan 00:46, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The image was uploaded to Commons and deleted as it's not allowed there. The current image is fine, though. It's more representitive of Peggy as a whole. anemoneprojectors 08:47, 8 July 2016 (UTC)
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