Talk:Exclave

message: Is this really an enclave? Its own article never mentions that, and its map makes it look like an island.
::O.K, I know it's been two years probably since this question was asked but it looks like nobody has answered it. I hope that the anon. editor is still with us, and alive and well! The city of Dubrovnik is the principle city in what we call the Dubrovnik-Neretva Općina (district/borough etc). Now because of the fact that the independent Bosnia & Hercegovina (also ex Yugoslavia) was given some 10km or so access to the Adriatic, based on the municipality of a coastal town called Neum, Croatia is seperated with Dubrovnik being isolated. I'm from Dubrovnik and it's probably more fair to say that people of Dubrovnik have stronger cultural ties with those from Trebinje (Bosnia) and Montenegro than with Croatians living in Osijek or Istra. Anyhow, Neum was part of an independent Bosnia even before the creation of Yugoslavia. It was returned to Bosnia when it became recognised as a constituent republic in Yugoslavia when it was recreated at the end of World War 2. Ragusan 11-feb-06
::: I can see where the earlier writer's confusion came from: the first map is much too small to show the separation, and the second map shows the position of Dubrovnik within the old Republic (before 1808) rather than within today's Croatia.  The gap is quite obvious in my National Geographic Atlas.  —Tamfang 23:58, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dubrovnik?

message: ===Alaska===
Does Alaska count as an exclave of the United States?  RickK | Talk 23:40, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, according to the list on Country.  fabiform | talk 23:59, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Exclaves or not?

message: Does Alaska count as an exclave of the United States?  RickK | Talk 23:40, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, according to the list on Country.  fabiform | talk 23:59, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Alaska

message: Gibralter is different from other enclaves and I don't think it should count as one. It belongs to the UK, but it isn't PART of the UK, it's a dependency.
Compare with Alaska, which has the same status as any other US state, or Mellila, Ceuta which are considered to be integral parts of the Spanish state. Kappa 02:51, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Gibraltar

message: Is this serious? On Borneo, is East Malaysia an exclave of Malaysia because of Kalimantan (and Brunei), or is Kalimantan an exclave of Indonesia because of East Malaysia? Perhaps they surround each other?  Is Brunei an enclave or two, or one or both parts an exclave? How can you judge when the sea is involved?  --Henrygb 22:21, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Southeast Asia

message: Just a thought, but shouldn't the examples which are within the US be in the list of subnational exclaves, rather than in the main list? Vashti 18:05, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the lists seem like kind of a mess. Not sure if true vs. practical, national vs. subnational are really that easy to work with for editors. Or so it would seem, given the fact that US states appear in 3 of the 4 categories. —rodii 03:30, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Subnational exclaves

message: Northern Ireland is a territory that belongs to the United Kingdom but is not connected to the UK Mainland by land. Other than its coastline, it is surrounded by The Irish Republic, a seperate political entitiy. Shall we include it in the list?
As Northern Ireland is part of the island of Ireland and that islands are not normally considered  exclaves (See the first paragraph of the article), it should not be listed. Shocktm (Talk * Contributions) 15:25, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Northern Ireland is as much a part of the United Kingdom as Ceuta and Melilla are a part of Spain and I therefore believe if the latter are to be considered exclaves of Spain then the former should be considered an exclave of the UK. It is not a whole island that is off the coast from the mainland (as are the Shetlands, Anglesey and the Isle of White etc.), rather, it is part of an island which has borders with another country, and is therefore an exclave. 129.67.162.10 (talk) 01:43, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Northern Ireland?

message: I take it from the above that the following, quoted from "Argentina" is also wrong?
 There is one Argentine exclave: the island of Martín García (co-ordinates 34°11′ S 58°15′ W). It is situated near the confluence of the Paraná and Uruguay rivers, a mere kilometre inside Uruguayan waters, about 3.5 km from the Uruguayan coastline, near the small city of Martín Chico (itself about halfway between Nueva Palmira and Colonia).
--Brian Z 03:04, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Martín García 

message: I suppose West Berlin is not here because it was not technically a part of West Germany? Astrokey44 09:21, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct West Berlin was not an encalve/exclave as it was not part of West Germany but it did have enclaves such as Steinstücken, which was part of West Perlin but surronded by East Germany. Shocktm | Talk  | Contributions 16:44, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  West Berlin? 

message: I believe that Delaware has at least one bit of land on the New Jersey side of the estuary; can someone who knows details add it to the "practical subnational exclaves" section?  —Tamfang 22:20, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Google maps, that is correct--http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=dover,+delaware&ll=39.582407,-75.4953&spn=0.342924,0.894012
Stubblyhead 23:08, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delaware 

message: I don't understand why Point Roberts, WA and the Northwest Angle are listed here.  They both meet all the characteristics of an exclave.  Neither is any more connected to the rest of US than Cabinda is to Angola.  The same could be said for the subnational pracital exclave.  Can anyone shed some light on this distinction?  Stubblyhead 23:20, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They are connected to the rest of the US through US Territorial Water so they are not real exclaves. ((Shocktm | Talk  | Contributions)) 23:55, 8 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Whereas Cabinda is separated by a corridor of Congo territorial water.  —Tamfang 00:36, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Practical Exclaves

message: Just out of interest, Pentreheyling is a practical exclave - it is part of Shrophire in England, but can only reached by roads passing through Wales - see 
I'm no expert on these things though - I just noticed the unusual edit summary - feel free to include it or not at your discretion! Aquilina 20:12, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pentreheyling

message: In 2006, it was noted that Enclave and Exclave largely repeated each other, so I merged them to Enclave and exclave (with redirects), moving most of the examples into List of enclaves and exclaves.  That move was uncontroversial at the time.  Why has someone now re-forked Exclave?  Have any of the recent editors compared new content to the existing content of the other pages?  —Tamfang (talk) 16:25, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I recognize some entries (Kentucky Bend and Sandoval County) as my own writing! —Tamfang (talk) 18:20, 25 July 2009 (UTC)

text: San Francisco International Airport is also part of an exclave, located 6 miles (10 km) south of San Francisco proper in San Mateo County, but considered a part of the city.
The airport is San Francisco's property but not its territory.  It lies in San Mateo County, with a couple of bits on its edges in the cities of South San Francisco and Millbrae, according to a Thomas Bros map. —Tamfang (talk) 00:15, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  fork, why? 

message: This forked article contains only one item that's not already in List of enclaves and exclaves, and that one is wrong:
: San Francisco International Airport is also part of an exclave, located 6 miles (10 km) south of San Francisco proper in San Mateo County, but considered a part of the city.
The airport is San Francisco's property but not its territory.  It lies in San Mateo County, with a couple of bits on its edges in the cities of South San Francisco and Millbrae, according to a Thomas Bros map. —Tamfang (talk) 00:15, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: SFO

message: This has been classified as a "redirect with possibilities" of being expanded to a real article.  The result would be a restoration of the repetitions that motivated me to merge Exclave and Enclave into Enclave and exclave all these years ago! —Tamfang (talk) 08:09, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  with obsession all articles are possible