Talk:List of crossings of the Upper Mississippi River

message: I created this list to potentially help create stubs on the crossings. The lat and longs are all from USGS aerial photos or topos using USA Photomaps. I had to use some creativity on naming some of the bridges, especially the ones in Minnesota. If you are from Minnesota and know the official name, please feel free to update it and create a stub page with that name. Additionally, it is not quite complete between the Lake Itasca and the Twin Cities. --Dual Freq 01:49, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: List of crossings

message: Not to discredit the source material, but it kind of bothered me that the "Climbing the Mississippi River Bridge by Bridge"  book shows the Muscatine, IA bridge with the name of Norbert Becky Bridge instead of Norbert Beckey Bridge. It probably was a typo, but it kind of raises some questions. As for the La Crosse bridge, I would prefer a name less verbose than La Crosse-La Crescent Canadian Pacific Railroad bridge. 1870's materials about the bridge simply call it the "Bridge Over the Mississippi River at La Crosse". It looks like that includes all 4 bridges, Main Channel, East channel, French Slough and the span over the Black River. I'd say a single article would be acceptable covering all four bridges and calling it something like La Crosse Rail Bridge. There is only one rail crossing at La Crosse, so I don't know that the name needs to be too descriptive to include owner, channel etc. --Dual Freq 23:11, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I agree that the name is a bit cumbersome.  Then again, it could have been La Crosse-La Crescent Canadian Pacific Railroad, Formerly Milwaukee Road, Main Channel (the one with more water under it) Swing Bridge, Constructed in 1872 With Two Steel Rails Spaced Four Feet, Eight and One-Half Inches Apart.  I'm not totally sure that Mary Costello has all the bridge names 100% correct.  I'm not even sure that railroads have official names for their bridges.  It wouldn't hurt my feelings to rename it.  (As an aside, that's an interesting link -- you might want to add it to La Crosse-La Crescent Canadian Pacific Railroad, Main Channel Bridge or whatever the shorter name should be.)  --Elkman - (talk) 23:36, 29 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I changed it to La Crosse Rail Bridge.  I don't know what's official, either, but the long name was almost as long as the bridge itself.  --Elkman - (talk) 00:11, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bridge Names

message: I did a study of the Mississippi rail bridges, but I'm not sure it adds anything to this fine effort.
http://www.trains.com/TRC/CS/forums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=535712 Dale Qualicum 21:07, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's one of the sources I used. The Keithsburg Rail Bridge certainly had its roots in trains.com. Thank you. --Dual Freq 04:09, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional information

message: I always get messed up with Wiki tables.
There are four ferries between Illinois and Missouri that should be on this list.
*Golden Eagle Ferry
*Winfield Ferry
*Grafton Ferry
*Ste. Genevieve-Modoc Ferry
I will post the St. Genevieve article as soon as it is properly placed here.
Americasroof 03:14, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If we're adding ferries, there is also the Casseville Ferry between Iowa and Wisconsin. I have some information and pictures about this one. Normally I'm trying to limit my efforts to Minnesota, but it looks like a few of the northern Iowa articles could use some work too. Mdcastle 14:22, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ferries

message: Is the eventual goal to have an article for every Mississippi River Bridge? I understand how being on the Missississippi can make them by "encyclopedic", but on the other hand, above St. Cloud in general and above Brainerd in especially they tend to be short, nondescript girder bridges. Finding sources could also be problematic as no one really bothers to write about them aside from Mr. Weeks' web page and the "Climbing the Mississippi" book. Mdcastle 14:22, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm considering taking out all the links to non-existent bridge articles above St. Cloud; any objections to that?  As stated, these are pretty nondescript bridges.  Of course they could always be re-added if an article is written. OakGust00 (talk) 19:56, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably not a bad idea to get rid of the red links. You might want to check the two sources mentioned above (John Weeks, and "Climbing the Mississippi") and see if any of them are plausible enough to be kept per WP:REDDEAL. Mojoworker (talk) 22:10, 20 March 2018 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the suggestions; likely should keep a few (esp. rail bridges and dams, which tend to have more historical significance).  OakGust00 (talk) 18:04, 26 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: An article for every bridge?

message: I undid 208.54.95.70's couple edits, as I've seen first-hand crews taking down the old bridge.  I haven't been by the bridge for a couple weeks, but last time I've been out there they had most of the road deck taken down already.  Plus, since the new bridge has opened, the old bridge has been barricaded so the public is unable to cross.
If 208.54.95.70 has a source about the bridge being "turned back" to Benton County, please tell me on my talk page or here.  Actually, I believe the old bridge was under jurisdiction of Stearns and Benton County anyways since the opening of the Bridge of Hope, if that's the case, maybe that should be fixed in the Sauk Rapids Bridge article (it currently says Minnesota Department of Transportation in the Maintained By header)
SpaceJunkie (talk) 03:50, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sauk Rapids Bridge undo 

message: My edit to this "List of crossings of the Upper Mississippi River" is not only my first edit to this Wikipedia article, it is my first Wikipedia edit period!
If this edit works properly, I will 
1) add coords for all the bridges that don't yet have values -- perhaps 20 or so. 
2) correct positions for 4 or 5 bridges (at least one bridge now plots a few hundred miles away). 
3) If there are no objections, I will also edit ALL the coords to convert them to WGS-84 with a precision of 1/100ths of a second -- this will insure the bridges plot properly in Google Earth and other satellite imagery programs. 
4) Again, if there are no objections, I will add about 4 or 5 bridges (currently existing or historical) -- the source for the existing bridges being satellite imagery and for the historic bridges it is online USGS Topo maps.
Randyhi (talk) 15:50, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome. I would recommend against going to that level of precision. I deliberately only used seconds when I made the article, and even then I felt like I was making a list of targets and not a list of bridges. Seconds is adequate to describe the location of most things and I think there is a WP:Manual of Style ref somewhere that indicates that as well. And I think you mean WGS-84. If there are errors of several miles then it must have been a typo, feel free to correct those. Also remember that not all maps are properly gridlocked and the additional precision may just be extra precise on the wrong spot. I've seen terraserver images off by quite a bit because of this. Thanks for your help. --Dual Freq (talk) 15:54, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

text: A number of people contributed to the list and it certainly is not my call how it is maintained. I did stat the list a few years ago, and I didn't add more precision because I didn't want to provide a targeting list for somebody's cruise missiles 30 years from now. Still, if you'd like to add more detail, that's fine. I'm sure if someone wanted to create a target list then they could use Google maps to make one themselves, I know it's silly, but I didn't want it on my conscience. As for the red links, most that remain are relatively insignificant bridges that cross the Mississippi River when it is fairly narrow in northern Minnesota. We left the red links for future use, but I doubt those will ever have their own articles and most have very debatable or arbitrary names in this list. --Dual Freq (talk) 23:11, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding/Editing Coords, etc 

message: Please add also powerline crossngs of Mississippi.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jodolindu (talk • contribs) 21:58, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Powerline crossings 

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