Talk:Anime/Archive 6

message: Have anyone saw the new television show called Boondocks, which is based on the popular comic strip? People are drawn with big and colorfull eyes, and their texture is also alike the all the animes and mangas I saw/read. So is it an anime or is it not? Kniaz Monday, April 10  17:26 pm
:It's about as anime as The Simpsons. Ie, some koreans probably did the colouring-in. --zippedmartin 21:53, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You should probably check the credits before saying such a thing. I'm not jumping on your butt, but that could be viewed as stereotyping. Just sayin' -- NatsukiGirl\talk 18:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You kidding? The official sites don't even credit animators, let alone say how the rendering's done, the kids don't care. As for 'stereotyping', the US animation industry has long outsourced work to the far east (not that there's much of an industry left these days beyond 3dcg). Japan is doing much the same now. --zippedmartin 21:55, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: By "far east", you mean South Korea, which is the only place I know that actually does such work (I've certainly never heard of China doing it, and I don't think you were thinking of Southeast Asia at all).  Anyways, South Korea and Japan are not the same place (and the context which you wrote your reply could be interpreted that way), which is probably why NatsukiGirl replied to you. --ColourBurst 05:20, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it or is it not an anime, thati s the question... 

message: I've tagged this section because it makes an excessive use of weasel words, such as "some people have", "some have found", "many people will cite", and "Some [animators] have". Attributing opinions to anonymous sources should be avoided and linking to just one source is not going to offset the anonymous nature of the attributed opinion. --TheFarix (Talk) 21:20, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Should the whole section be deleted since it does seem to be bias and makes unsubstantiated claims? --205.188.116.68 00:53, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me. DenisMoskowitz 15:08, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critisim of anime: Use of weasel words 

message: My question was simply put "is or is not the new television show "Boondocs", based on popular, partly racist and stereotypical comic strip an anime? Note that it is drawn in anime style." 
So, please tell me if IT IS/YES or IT IS NOT/NO and then give the reasons. No "near to", "close to", "perhapes it is", "most likely", etc. If you just wish to give me the reasons, but not sure go on my userpage. Kniaz 18:19, 12 April 2006
:No. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 22:58, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "I've always been a big anime fan, and I've always wanted the Boondocks to look like a show that was made in Japan," McGruder said. "And the reason why is that anime is really just Japanese animation directors that are mimicking American cinema."  --Dforest 12:57, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In our context here on wikipedia I believe that if it is widely accepted, then it is classed as an anime. Does the series feature in anime magazines? Can it be bought from online anime stores? Does it appear in anime sections of retail stores? Is it listed in several popular online anime encyclopedias? These are all questions that can answered "yes" for shows we call anime. --Squilibob 01:02, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Sorry. (^_^) No, Boondocks is not an anime or manga series. The author may say he was inspired by anime and/or manga, but just being inspired doesn't make it so. Boondocks is a political commentary comic (and maybe cartoon now?) that leans somewhat to the left (based on what I read once a week in the local newspaper before they dropped it). It is not anime. It is not manga. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 00:09, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh, and here's the link for anyone interested in more info about this comic: The Boondocks. --日本穣 Nihonjoe 00:11, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Still a question... 

message: Are all these review site external links necessary? I'd like to prune it down to one or completely remove them. If anime review sites are important to anime then a separate article would exist for it and the links would be there instead. --Squilibob 01:49, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have been re-reading WP:EL and am going to remove links that do not fall under the style guidelines. Several anime review sites have been added in the past few days that do not fal under these guidelines. Here is a snippet of WP:EL that this applies to:
# For albums, movies, books: one or two links to professional reviews which express some sort of general sentiment. For films, Movie Review Query Engine, Internet Movie DataBase, Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic offer especially large collections of reviews.
# Web directories: When deemed appropriate by those contributing to an article on Wikipedia, a link to one web directory listing can be added, with preference to open directories (if two are comparable and only one is open). If deemed unnecessary, or if no good directory listing exists, one should not be included.
# Fan sites: On articles about topics with many fansites, including a link to one major fansite is appropriate, marking the link as such. In extreme cases, a link to a web directory of fansites can replace this link. (Note: fanlistings are generally not informative and should not ordinarily be included.)
--Squilibob 22:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

text: The 'database' section is currently looking a bit top heavy while we're on the subject.. Shiroi Hane 23:03, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps they should be linked internally, AnimeNfo and ANN have their own articles for instance. --Squilibob 23:40, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

text: The Meta Anime Review Project attempts to collect reviews from various other review sites. I don't know how complete their site is as I just recently stumbled on it from another article. But it could be a good way to narrow the review links into, hopefully, one link. --TheFarix (Talk) 02:47, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Site claims it is a beta version, but a good point. I have moved the AnimeNfo and ANN links so that they point to the wikipedia articles and not to external links. --Squilibob 14:52, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is beta, but it is functional.  (I'm one of the maintainers there.  *cough*) -- Miwa * talk * contribs ^_^ 15:53, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links - review sites 

message: This article is in excellent conditon. Where is the neurality disputed and for what reason?Finite 21:39, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See below. I was in the middle of writing my response when you posted your message. (^'-')^ Covington 21:51, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What is with the POV tag?

message: Just wondering, how come the following are no longer present in the article:
* proper fansubs and speed-sub comparisons.
* types of subtitling.
NeoDeGenero 12:56, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a separate article for fansubs that the Anime article links directly to from that section. The fansub section is supposed to be a short introduction and the Fansub article should be the place where all the details are given to the reader. Imagine how long the article would be if every detail of the history of anime, licensing of anime and fansubbing was included. Comparisons and types of fansubs must go in the fansub article itself. --Squilibob 14:09, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seconded.  This is kind of like insisting that proper subtitling technique should go in the article for film. -- Miwa * talk * contribs ^_^ 15:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fansubs 

message: I have a problem because i don´t  find something about Rosen Maiden.
Thanks for your atention. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.76.25.100 (talk • contribs) .
:The Anime article is not intended to list all anime.  If you want to know something about Rozen Maiden try that article, and spelling it correctly. DenisMoskowitz 00:37, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hi 

message: I sometimes stumble upon anime series where each episode's duration (including opening and ending sequences) is only 5-10 minutes, such as: Oruchuban Ebichu, Dameko Doubutsu, and Panda Z. Is there a special category for these short animes? And are these "real" series, or are they simply produced as fillers?
Thanks.
:Oh, they're real series alright; some, like Di Gi Charat, are even fairly popular. But no, I don't think we have separate categories. Not that many of them, and so far as I know, they range up from the mere minutes to fill 20 minute series, so where would one draw the line? --maru   (talk)  contribs 16:08, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe Azumanga Daioh was originally aired in short segments and I don't anyone would argue that that is not a "real" series. --Shiroi Hane 16:52, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Did it really? I had thought that it was the manga that was in short segments. The anime episodes released in America were full-length, at least. --maru   (talk)  contribs 22:12, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't know till I read it here on WP: "The anime, which aired from 8 April 2002 until 30 September 2002 was broadcast in five-minute segments every weekday, and as a 25-minute compilation each weekend". --Shiroi Hane 01:14, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh. That's a rather odd way to go about producing and showing an anime, IMO. --maru   (talk)  contribs 01:16, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's kinda how the Simpsons started...--SeizureDog 11:20, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I didn't mean starting an anime, I meant producing an anime. It makes sense popular shorts can be spun off into full standlone series, but not that one would deliberately produce full-length anime in short-sized segments. --maru   (talk)  contribs 20:51, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Short (5-10 minute) animes 

message: I would like to raise the point about images again. Most of the images are 300px wide. I have resized the two Macross pictures before but editors have reverted it. Can we have a fixed width for all the images please?
There are two Macross images. I've tried to remove the Mylene one twice and it keeps being reverted. Can we have some diversity please? The Macross image in Music is good and we have Lum as our example of female depiction. Do we need this Mylene image?
Two of the images raised in question last year (Talk:Anime/Archive_2#Not_all_images_used_are_optimal) are still there. I would like to keep a Cowboy Bebop image and an image of Lum as they are good examples, but when this was raised there were some good points made. The current Cowboy Bebop picture isn't even used on the Cowboy Bebop article as of writing and as mentioned previously, the Lum .png has two people in it. --Squilibob 10:59, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Howabout this image for Astroboy? It's big enough, suitably sized for insertion, and shows it's nice age in being one of the first recognized Anime?--293.xx.xxx.xx 22:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Images on the page

message: OK, we can't be serious all the time. Warning, catchy tune. --02:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bra Size 45