Talk:Factsheet Five

message: I've added a little bit how Hudson Luce took over after Issue #44 (which was August 1991, not 1990). I'm not positive when R. Seth Friedman took over, as I don't have Issue #46.  Also the electronic version was Factsheet Five - Electric, not Electronic. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 06:44, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
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message: About a year ago I began uploading Kerry Thornley's Factsheet Five columns to Wikisource. They have been nominated for deletion and so I have uploaded them, along with some other Factsheet Five articles, to User:Popefauvexxiii's wiki, Summa Universalia, as well as my own website, Gyrofrog Communications. I would like to add these external links to the article, but thought I'd better ask here first given the potential conflict of interest. Given that most of the uploads are Thornley's columns I'll also post this message to Talk:Kerry Thornley. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 17:23, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
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message: I don't really know if this would constitute a potential conflict of interest or not, but just to be extra cautious,  I wrote some reviews for Factsheet Five (unpaid) when it was in San Francisco and know Seth Friedman personally. So take my edits with appropriate grains of salt.  Msalt (talk) 18:09, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note of potential conflict of interest 

message: Thanks to whoever is doing this. This is Hudson Luce, so I'll try to add some clarification here and some detail. I'm working from my archival copy of Issue 45, since the computer archives of the articles, saved in Stuffit 1.5.1 format, are apparently unrecoverable; not even on my G3 Powerbook running Mac OS 8.6. Here's a bit about how I "bought" Factsheet Five:
"This all began late last July, when Mike Gunderloy announced on the WELL, an electronic bulletin board, that he was ceasing publication of Factsheet Five with issue #44... On the 3rd of August, I proposed to continue Factsheet Five for the cost of sending issues to the paid subscribers for the time remaining on their subscriptions, and to continue the editorial policy of non-exclusion of reviewing materials, in other words, to review materials received without regard to their content, political or otherwise. Mike and Cari [Goldberg, his co-editor] accepted, and I became the new editor and publisher of Factsheet Five."
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The people who worked with me on the magazine are as follows:
Bill Paulauskas  Music, Poetry, and Comics Reviewer
Jon Lebkowsky    Book Reviews
Ted Stamas       Video Reviews
Mark Bloch       Mail Art and Post Art
Andy Pierce      Editorial Assistant
Jim Knipfle      Features Editor
Ted Stamas       Zine Reviewer, NTSC Cyberbeat
Lorin McLain     Zine Reviewer
Peter Wegele     Music Zine Reviewer
Chris Donnelly   Music Zine Reviewer
Solomon Davidoff Literary Zine Reviewer
David Fanning    Queer Zine Reviewer
Carlos Rumbaut   Book Reviewer
Jerod Pore       Book Reviewer
Bill Carbonelli  Music Reviewer
Jamie Barnett    Music Reviewer
Justin Ionescu   Music Reviewer
Alexei Chachanashvili Music Reviewer
Martin Kaminer   Comics Reviewer
Rita Rouvalis    Electronic Frontier Scout
Geoff Huth       Official Archivist
Angela Gunn      BBS Goddess
Kerry W Thornley Official Conspirator
Bob Grumman      Experioddica Consultant
Joe Lane         "The Fishing Hole" column
D M Pitts        The Last Page cartoon
Tuli Kupferberg  Cover Design and Logo, and lots of moral support.
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Without the work of the people above, the production of Issue 45 would have been impossible. I got it mailed out finally on December 20, 1991, bundling all the issues and sorting them myself, after working 20 hours straight to get address labels on all of them. By hand. Ten days later, my aunt died, and as I was her sole survivor, I had to take care of the burial and funeral by myself, alone, and then I had to probate her estate. Doing this from Atlanta would have been prohibitively expensive, so I simply packed up and moved to Kansas City so I could do things myself rather than pay lawyers to do it. I shipped about 1000 lbs of zines to the apartment, along with all my stuff, put a forwarding order in at the Post Office, and got back to Kansas City on January 5, 1992. I also put up my new mail address on the WELL, and the mailbox got stuffed everyday to the point where I got all my mail, all 40 lbs daily, in a special box. The phone would have continued to ring off the hook, but I didn't give out the number. So in addition to all the legal stuff with my aunt's estate, I had a steady 12 hours of work to do per day, every day, 7 days a week. Some days I just took off, and so the work piled up. When I took over, there were 1152 paid subscriptions, 300 of them Life or Sustaining subscribers, the rest to run out by Issue 50. Of the press run for Issue 44, 10,500 copies printed, Mike had sent out roughly 6000 in trade, sent about 2500 to distributors, and the rest went to subscriptions and single copy sales. I figured out pretty quick that it would be impossible to continue sending copies for trade, especially with a press run of 5000, 1152 which got sent out to subscribers (and between 5% and 25% were returned as undeliverable, depending on the post office. As I recall, Detroit Michigan was the worst performer.) I also had a look at policies for distributors, and they tended to be so bad that sending copies for newsstand sales was at best advertising in order to get subscribers, and definitely a money loser. In light of this, I decided to make FF a subscription-only publication and not deal with distributors except on a Firm Sale/COD basis. We continued to get a steady trickle of new subscribers. There was praise for #45 and there were complaints, especially from NAMBLA, who were angry that I had not reviewed their zines. I had in fact written a review, and for some reason had intended to stick it in the Gay/Lesbian/Queer section, and then proceeded in the process of physically assembling the issue on boards, to omit all reviews after the letter "G", a screwup I didn't catch until after the issue had been printed and it was too late. If I'd done an Issue #46, the reviews would have been included. Fate intervened again, however, because on the 4th of July, 1992, I was out riding my bike, and got run off the road by some guy in a convertible who was avoiding colliding with another car. I went into the ditch, went over the handlebars and landed on my left wrist, and the shock traveled up my arm to the shoulder ball joint, which shattered into 5 pieces, two of which were too small to pin. The orthopedic surgeon on call sent me home in a sling, with a scrip for pain meds, and with the advice that the cartilage would form a natural cast, which is what happened. He also said the arm would end up permanently useless. That didn't happen, because instead of doing the exercises prescribed by the docs, I started lifting weights after about six months. But for Factsheet Five, that pretty much did it. You can't type fast enough with one hand. So at that point I had to find someone else to do the zine, and that's where R. Seth Friedman took it over. I ended up losing money on the zine, not very much, but enough, and I got no compensation for my labor (but no one else got paid, either.) If I'd been physically able to continue, I wanted to produce the magazine wholly on the internet, and would have done so, especially in light of the development of the World Wide Web... but things worked out the way they did. Chris and Paris Rice of Kansas City helped out doing music reviews and Tim Kearns did reviews of all sorts of zines for what would have been Issue 46. After I was injured, they did the physical labor I was unable to do, in shipping out what must have been about 1600 lbs of zines to San Francisco (40 boxes of zines at about 40 lbs/box).
--Stream47 (talk) 10:51, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
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