Talk:High School Musical/Archive 1

message: I don't think that the placement of the tracks on the iTunes Top 100 should be in the article; those numbers aren't static. Already, "Breaking Free" is number two on iTunes, not "#1" as the article says. OneofThem 14:54, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  iTunes rankings in soundtrack listing 

message: What model is Gabriella Montez's cell phone? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.239.55.50 (talk • contribs) 
Who plays Kelsey in the movie?--Dil 02:23, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is coming out on DVD in May, the information is in the article. --lightdarkness (talk) 00:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is such a GREAT movie! 

message: Are the release dates still necessary, since the date for the normal version's release is already noted in the infobox? (Plus, they're over already, making at least the "8 PM Eastern/7 PM Central" parts definitely unnecessary?)
Also, does anyone have any ideas on how to better sort out the "Plot" section, since the content above the spoiler warning doesn't actually give much information about the general storyline of the film? Maybe put what's currently in the summary (at the top) as the non-spoiler plot, and move the comparisons with "Eddie's Million Dollar Cook-off" elsewhere (possibly in the summary, eventually)?
Thanks, Weien 09:29, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't take it word for word, that'd be a copyright violation. --lightdarkness 03:09, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The plot seems to have been fixed up/changed considerably already, though (e.g. the "Million Dollar Cook-off" stuff is completely gone (and I concur ^^)). The only thing now, is that the content in the "Plot" section (labeled as a spoiler) is actually a less detailed version of what's in the top summary (and, in my opinion, not even a spoiler; just info that you could pretty much gather from the Disney Channel commercials alone). But Lightdarkness is right; copying anything verbatim... would be bad ^_^. Better to either have someone who watched the movie describe it in detail (under the "Spoiler" section) or paraphrase a source's synopsis. Coming along nicely so far, though. Cheers! Weien 06:30, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some thoughts on cleaning up 

message: Can anyone actually cite a source other people can review for this person--looks like a prank to me. 24.17.48.241 02:40, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if the person exists, I question why the name would need to be linked if all that can be said about them is Falon Grace appeared in High School Musical. 24.17.48.241 02:45, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Falon Grace]]

message: I know I'm not the only one who thinks that date is way too long for a second movie.
It's bad enough The Cheetah Girls 2 were late on coming back. Disney Channel takes it's movies way too seriously. They don't need to be waiting 3 years to bring back an orginal. 
:Hey guys, thought I'd mention this after quite a few too many occurrences--try to keep the messages in this talk page related specifically to the building of this particular article. If you want to talk about HSM2 being a bad idea, or the quality of the lipsyncing, or how awesome or terrible the movie was, please do so at a discussion forum somewhere else.
:Finally, always "sign" your comments with four tildes (~~~~), which will autograph your comment with your name and date of posting (or IP address, if you're not signed in/registered). Thanks! Weien 08:07, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  High School Musical II for 2008?  

message: Ok, this article needs a lot of cleanup.  First of all, when new info surfaces, don't place "Update:" in that paticular area, just update the info!  But please cite the source.  Secondly, do we really need the list of the entire crew?  I don't know of another article that cites this info.  If a person is really seeking this info out, they can go to imdb, I don't think the crew is encyclopedia (Save *the director and producers).  Also, for High School Musical 2, don't place ANY rumors in the article.  Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and we should abide by that guideline.  I will try to sort these things out myself, but any help is greatly appreciate. --lightdarkness (talk) 18:09, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *I have to agree that the cast listing looks very unnecessary. The four main actors/actresses are already mentioned in the "Plot" section and I believe that is all that is needed.--Jonthecheet 05:57, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I already removed the Crew listing, I do also agree the cast needs some work, perhaps we should come up with what we are going to include? --lightdarkness (talk) 06:00, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Good job. I was just thinking that maybe the cast part should be removed. The four in the info box looks sufficient. In case someone complains about not giving proper credits, we can just add a link after the main four. Something like Complete Cast.--Jonthecheet 05:45, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey, some great progress already! ^_^ I definitely agree with the crew list being out of there; as for the character/cast list, I think we should at least have the "main" characters, who are featured at the official website  (that is, characters Troy, Gabriella, Sharpay, Ryan, Taylor, Chad, Mrs. Darbus, and Coach Bolton)--which, I think, covers all of the major (i.e. speak at least 20 lines) roles in the movie. Anyway, hoping to help with the cleanup effort here (and in the sub-pages of this article) ^^. By the way, do you guys think that the Soundtrack Notes really necessary? Weien 06:14, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I started revising the Plot section; hopefully to make it more encyclopedic (e.g. taking out the "Can they do it?" type questions or phrases like "one CRAZY day," etc.) and somewhat more detailed. I've only done about two paragraphs so far, since I wanted to get all of your opinions on this before I do the entire thing. Should I keep going? Stick with the old version? Too detailed? Thanks in advance for your help! Weien 05:56, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Lookin good so far, but is there anyway to change this sentence: "Gabriella starts school at East High in Albuquerque, New Mexico, without knowing that Troy goes there as well--or that he is the captain of the East High Wildcats basketball team (of which Troy's father is the coach)."  It just seems really long and awkard, or is it just me? --lightdarkness (talk) 03:04, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks a lot Weien, looks great. --lightdarkness (talk) 06:01, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey, I didn't even get to reply XD (I edited it, then took a look at your userpage, then at your barnstars, and then at Firefox.ogg, etc... before getting back here ^^)! But you were right on about that sentence... it's still not perfect, so if you have any ideas, feel free to change it or any of the others. There might be a way to insert the tidbit about Troy's dad being the coach later on, but I guess for now it works where it is ^^. Thanks for your help! Weien 06:22, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Hm... well, I think it could be nice if we could get the summary at the top to look less like an advertising blurb and more, say, like the one in this article XD. Another thing might be cleaning up the soundtrack section, but I think that could wait until the actual soundtrack article itself has been tidied up, first. But yes, good work all! ^_^, Weien 01:47, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the paragraphs that you didn't copyedit, which would be (in the plot) all but the first two, need major cleaning up.  It reads like a TV annoucer would for a commercial.  I really don't think the plot should be asking questions.  Anyone wanna give that a whack? --lightdarkness (talk) 02:02, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *raises hand* I'd been planning to keep going anyway, if no one jumps in in the meantime ^^. But yes, hopefully I can get it done a bit at a time (the weekdays are tough for me), though after the first two paragraphs, most of the content there isn't even a description of the plot anymore (whereas for the first two I was able to mostly stick with what the original user was writing). At any rate, anyone please feel free to work on the plot as well! ^^ Weien 05:27, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean Up! 

message: Per this, President of Disney Channel Worldwide stated that it won't be ready til 08, I've updated the article and High School Musical 2 to refect this info. --lightdarkness (talk) 06:41, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No sequal til 08' 

message: After a disscussion with an admin, I've removed the speculation date of the sequal to High School Musical.  Even though I've cited sources claiming it to be 2008, I think it's going to become an edit war of devout fans editing in this magic January 17th date that is being vigorously spread via online forums.  Regardless of all of that, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, and we should abide to past precident. --lightdarkness (talk) 03:43, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of HSM possible date 

message: I captured the movie via my capture card during the last airing, so I can now get screencaps for the article.  I've already added one, but I can't really find other ones that would fit well.  If anyone wants a paticular screencap for the article, let me know and I'll upload it for you. --lightdarkness (talk) 05:54, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Great cap--it's a good snapshot of a key moment in the movie ^^. Once I get more work done on the plot (sorry that I haven't made progress lately--really busy in RL over here -_-), there might be more places where another screencap or two would fit nicely (at this rate, the plot section will be pretty big in its finished form, so having a few pics throughout ought to be aesthetically okay)... otherwise, the only thing I can think of would be possibly having a picture illustrating "Breaking Free" in the Soundtrack section, but that'd just be for fun, I think ^^. Weien 06:20, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screencaps from the movie 

message: I haven't actually seen this movie, but one of my current floormates in my college dorm, Todd Schwartzman, is in some form of part for it.  It's probably not very major at all (actual lines are doubtful), but still, it's cool.  Plus, I think he's been in other Disney Channel movies (also as a background man) and he has recorded music for small cd's (usually religious).  Just wanted to share.
--Commander Cool, part deux 08:56, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Todd Michael Schwartzman: Superstar 

message: Well, this article got me thinking, and so I checked out IMDB.  Sure enough, our friend Todd's got himself an article, found here: [].  Just to prove he's real.
Apparently, he's also Pete the Werewolf in Halloweentown.
And yes, the post from bhurst2 is from me.
--Commander Cool, part deux 09:07, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  APENDIX A (to my previous comment) 

message: Is it really necessary to have the release date on the page and on the right side too? One shouldn't be there then. Should I get rid of one? If so, which one?
-Rosepuff12 02:34, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the one is apart of the infobox, and the one in the article kinda describes how they had multiple versions.  It's up to you, I have no preference. --lightdarkness (talk) 02:51, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Date 

message: should we mention that the movie is not sold on iTunes anymore? Cnriaczoy42 13:48, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Itunes MOvie 

message: I've been wondering... Why did this Andrew guy voiceover some of Zac's songs when Zac is such an amazing singer, and has been doing so since he was like 10?
Tates 03:38, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zac Efron/Andrew Seeley