Talk:Subdivisions of Indonesia

message: The status is granted to the province because it is considered that Yogyakarta have made an invaluable contribution to the Republic of Indonesia both before and after the Indonesian Declaration of Independence in 1945. I the above, because it's subjective (the provinces other than Yogyakarta also made invaluable contribution, anyway). The fact was, when Sukarno declare Indonesian independence, the "state" of Yogyakarta existed at that time within Indonesia, so it should have a special status. wic2020talk   bicara  11:30, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Yogyakarta Special Region

message: I have changed "Province" for the two semi-autonomous regions (Aceh and Yogyakarta) to "Special Territory". 
This would make it more consistent with the Aceh article, as well as the Indonesian "Daerah Istimewa". 
While this is somewhat arbitrary, I didn't choose to follow the Yogyakarta article as "Special Region" is already used in the article as a translation of "Daerah Khusus" (ie. Jakarta). 
We have a really sticky situation here as both istimewa and khusus translate to "special". If either "territory" or "region" is to be standardised as the translation for daerah, then I would give more weight to istimewa -> special. 
Semantically, while both can be used interchangeably for "special", istimewa has pretty much no other meaning than "special", "different from ". Khusus on the other hand can also be translated as "dedicated (to the exclusion of all others)", "especially".
In "Daerah Khusus Ibukota", khusus can also have both meaning, as in "Special Capital Region" or as in "(especially) dedicated region for the seat of the central government", although I acknowledge that even in the latter case it still carry the same semantics of, and best translated as "special" in the given context. 
Perhaps someone else familiar with Indonesian can offer a better solution for standardisation. 
Benny Benjamin 19:44, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: earlier comment

message: Although the village is the smallest administrative unit, it can be divided further still into the kelurahan, which is headed by a lurah.
I disagree with that passage. Even I'm not familiar with administration outside Java, the term kelurahan is used in Java and in city outside Java. The term desa is equal with kelurahan but also mean rural or countryside.Aditthegrat 09:25, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: About Kelurahan

message: This article should be merged with more detailed article in Administrative divisions of Indonesia. wic2020talk   bicara  06:52, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge and Clean up

message: May I ask why 
* "Daerah Istimewa Yogyakarta"
* "Daerah Khusus Ibukota Jakarta"
have been removed? AsianGeographer (talk) 07:14, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not a translation service. We do not need to provide a translation into the native name for every occurrence across Wikipedia.  However, it's acceptable to leave it on the particular word's topic page to which people click for more detail.--Merbabu (talk) 07:51, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of content in source language 

message: Where can you find the national composition of the provinces?--Kaiyr (talk) 14:55, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  national composition of the provinces