Talk:R46 (New York City Subway car)

message: Considerable copyright infringement in this article, particularly in the section "R-46 problems in the late 70's to the early 90's tale." Contributing editor ran parts through a thesaurus to try to mask infringement; see for example the following passage from the article:
"MTA R-46s placed on the Brighton Line were introverted after residents complained about vibrations and higher noise level."
Compare with the following from NYC Subways:
"R-46s placed on the Brighton Line were withdrawn after residents complained about severe vibrations."
The web page is not public domain; copyright is assigned explicitly at the bottom of the page to Mark S. Feinman. For that matter, while nycsubway.org is credited for technical specs (which are taken from MTA sources anyway), it is not credited for the artistic and analytical work. There is no notice or release from the author anywhere placing the article under copyleft; therefore, unsourced and unquoted material is a copyright violation. 68.237.14.235 18:15, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ditto. I'm off looking for a "Copyright infringement" tag now. --Kbbbb 13:54, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Substantial copyright infringement 

message: Hello, today (July 26th, 2011) I saw - and rode in - these cars operating on the C line. They were outfitted with a lit  logo on the cab end which makes me think this is not temporary. I added the C line to the right-hand description. If anyone has additional info please add. Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.111.112.201 (talk • contribs) 04:05, 2011 July 27
:Physical observation is not sufficient for inclusion on Wikipedia. In order to be verifiable, a reliable source must be cited. Additionally, there is no such thing as the C line. Please see New York City Subway nomenclature for the difference between a service and a line. Acps110 (talk • contribs) 08:57, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well someone should tell the MTA to fix their website then. Also the A line has a R32 train running around so it seems a couple trains have switched letters. Maybe a useful person has information on that.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.111.112.201 (talk) 07:01, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

text: ...on your own site, not here. Wikipedia has certain rules. If somebody insists on breaking them, wikipedia blocks him from editing. Vcohen (talk) 13:27, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  C line operation 

message: I was re-reading the NYCSubway.org 70s and 80s pages, and something seemed oddly familiar about sections on the R46 Rockwell Hell. Whoever added the section left in numerous words from the NYCSubway.org one. I will leave it up to you guys how to handle this, however, this should've been caught. Mitch32(There is a destiny that makes us... family.) 18:28, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Close paraphrasing again 

message: Hey, I checked out the page, and I noticed that the page needed to be rewritten entirely. I will take on that challenge. I'll have it ready soon! ManofQueens (talk) 02:31, 12 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Administrators? They don't write or rewrite articles. I tried to follow your edit summary: "Rewriting of the entire page to comply with Wikipedia's "quality standards"." If you think the article still needs that template saying it needs to be rewritten, you may put it back.  Vcohen (talk) 09:45, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

text: Who are you?  I was speaking to ManofQueens. Vcohen (talk) 16:43, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

text: I thought you were two different persons. Vcohen (talk) 18:15, 24 February 2013 (UTC)

text: I do it by editing the template. However, right now there is nothing to update. Vcohen (talk) 11:50, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewriting 

message: I say change the picture. The F train image is too old and it is too shadded. So I have removed this from here and replaced this with the erlier A train image. Remember the A took almost all of the R46s from the F from January 2009 to June 2010. So the F train image was very old and dated from 2007.talk 14:37, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Change the picture

message: Can you add N/W and G to that Line, because there is a fleet swap that is happening between Coney Island Yard and Jamaica yard.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2000:DD50:8C00:344A:D91E:FEE8:9D9D (talk) 00:03, 11 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , I think we should revert to what reliable sources say. The Post, for example, only mentions R46s on the Q despite the N/W having them too. Twitter users are remarking about R46s on the N and W (like this) but these are not reliable sources. epicgenius (talk) 18:16, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

text: > Done Mtattrain (talk) 18:20, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

text: > Absolutely, and I would love to have that R46s run on the N/W on Wiki too, but as long as there is no source to back that up, we can't say that without it being challenged by other users on this site. Mtattrain (talk) 21:26, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

text: > Found a source, I would like to believe that we are good for saying R46s are on the N/W now. Mtattrain (talk) 21:34, 12 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , why don't you go and take a picture of these ugly fat chicks on the N, Q, and/or W yourself then? Nobody else cares about this dumb swap except for foamers who used to hate them on the A and R yet worship them so much on the N, Q, and W just because the latter three lines now have more variety in terms of fleet assignments now. Any leftover R160s will stick around on the N, Q, and W. Get over it. Seriously, these 45-year old junky cars should have stayed on the R till retirement as it is not guaranteed that Queens Blvd CBTC will be finish on time, as we already saw with Canarsie CBTC and Flushing CBTC, both of which took years after the intended targeted dates to complete the automation. Point blank period. Jemorie (talk) 22:39, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

text: > Lmfao imagine using ebonics on wikipedia. Mtattrain (talk) 02:27, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: >, you need to stop with your sarcastic and snide responses towards me, alright? Just makes you look even more petty, childish and immature than me. Either say something that contributes to the issue at hand or get lost. Because I bet my money you are soft as a wet little sponge on the kitchen floor in person. Jemorie (talk) 23:39, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

text: , honestly, just stop. Because now I can tell you're just literally trolling people (myself in particular) who are not fans of this dumb swap, partially out of sheer boredom during this pandemic. The R really does not deserve new cars right now anyway. The R is also one of the least demanding lines in the system as it does not feature what other lines do, and is a part-time route that does not operate its full-length route during late night hours anyway. You didn't suggested anything. You were just trying to be a bossy ass boots by repeatedly telling people to take a picture of the R46s on the N, Q, and W each, and replace the R160 images on those three lines' articles, when in reality, nobody really cares especially since whatever that is left of the R160s will stick around on the N, Q, and W. If you love this swap so much because it gives your precious R line the R160s, more power to you. And that itself is clearly what's wrong with the MTA. As I said billions of times already, just because the ongoing CBTC project on Queens Blvd is scheduled for completion by next year doesn't mean that itself can't change. And there's a higher possibility during unplanned service disruptions, the A, C, N, Q, and W (all using R46s and other older cars) would be rerouted via Queens Blvd without question, further making this Jamaica-Coney Island swap thing utterly pointless; all they had to do was wait till the R211s. I'm officially done entertaining you now. Jemorie (talk) 22:49, 16 May 2020 (UTC)

text: Hopefully the ERA bulletin gets updated soon, or we get an alternate reliable source to prove the existence of R46s on the G, N, and W. Because it's a fact the R46s aren't on the F and R anymore, but these are not in reliable sources, so we can't change it in the infobox yet. No comment on which rolling stock is better on which lines. epicgenius (talk) 16:11, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  R46s on N/W Line 

message: Routes have been changed by the MTA change them soon. R46s are exclusive on the A,C,G,N,Q,R,W and Rockaway shuttle trains. YxngTriton (talk) 22:32, 4 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , wait till the ERA Bulletin is updated to add pictures of chubby R46s on the N, Q, and W train articles. Until then, the R160 images on those three lines' articles should not be removed. Jemorie (talk) 03:19, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Route Assigments 

message: The R46s operate on the A,C,G,N,W and Q lines. They no longer operate on the the F or R lines. 69.112.166.84 (talk) 18:14, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: . It's not clear what changes you want to make; please make a precise request and provide sources that support any changes. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 20:10, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 April 2020 

message: Now that the R211s are in passenger service, it only makes sense to make a major update to this article that the R46s has now been retired, and that all previous route assignments for the R46s would be transferred to the R211s. Williamwang363 (talk) 19:20, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  R46 Retirement