Talk:Lordi/Archive 3

message: Lordi is a Hard Rock/Rock band, they have nothing to do with metal. Please fix it.Executex 17:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lordi is a heavy metal band. I hear them all the time on my metal radio station and, well..... HAVE YOU EVEN HEARD THEM, THEY ARE SOOOO TOOO METAL!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.172.237.93 (talk) 23:36, 14 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually, the band, in particular Mr. Lordi himself, are very careful to not call themselves a "metal" band. They are undoubtedly in the hard rock category, but to be fair, they probably should not be categorized as a metal band.HamatoKameko 12:00, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong label 

message: The picture in the infobox is again wrong. It shows former band members and fails to show current band members. JIP | Talk 11:16, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong picture, again 

message: dude thier costumes are like a cross between Slipknot ans Kiss. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.180.59.72 (talk • contribs) 
*I'd rather say it's a cross between KISS and GWAR.Cyanid 22:11, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "The purpose of a Wikipedia talk page is to provide space for editors to discuss changes to its associated article or project page. Article talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views." (Talk Page Guidlines) Keep the conversation article-related, please.  -HamatoKameko 03:35, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Costumes 

message: Kalma is said to be Pekka Tarvanen with reference to BNR Metal. However it's worth to notice that BNR Metal page has been last edited August 04, 2006 whereas Pekka Tarvanen was first added to wikipedia on July 22, 2006. So it's very likely that the BNR Metal simply took the name from wikipedia and this is a cyclic reference with absolutely no credibility.
On Finnish wikipedia all references to Kalma's real name are already changed to Niko Hurme and it has stronger evidence supporting the name (reference to official Lordi book, band together with Kita with whom he's from same city etc.). There's no evidence supporting Pekka Tarvanen whatsoever. Therefore I'm now editing the page to have same information as Finnish wikipedia. Juhovh 09:44, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong name in band members 

message: About the above 'Former member' that is continuosly added to this article by anons and hastily reverted back out of it, I think he may really exist. Take a look at This from Lordi's official forum. It's quite revealing, but unfortunatly not acceptable as a reference. Also, Finnish Wikipedia has This, a whole article on G-Stealer, which is convincing but, again, not directly referenceable. I couldn't get a decent translation; we need someone who speaks Finnish. A good summing up (in English!) of him con be found at yet a Third unreliable reference. Various other references availible, but all are meaningless to me as they are in Finnish. Hmmm... this sounds like a good challenge! Can anyone get a good reliable cite for him? Or at least track down a free online Finnish-English translater!? For now, I'm putting him back in the article with a fact tag. Blood red sandman 23:07, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Although, that will rewrite Lordi's early history as written here from scratch if it is verified. Even the date of the forming of the band is made incorrect by it. Blood red sandman 23:21, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "G-Stealer" did indeed exist. "G-Stealer" is the same character as "Kita," played by a different actor/musician. This information is revealed in Kita's biography and back story on the band's official site. To quote, "Kita, also known as the G-Stealer..." There's your proof, and I believe, your citable reference. HamatoKameko 03:23, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  G-Stealer 

message: héy why dit somebody rewrite the names of lordi?! Please, they asks to DON'T publicate their real names and photo's. Its just don't having respect for their work, they don't use that heavy, very hot costumes because it is fun!!!
...Because this is an encyclopediac article on the Band that should cover all pertinent information - not their website. We know the bands members real names so they should stay in the article. Peripitus (Talk) 23:32, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  héy! 

message: All the articles on Lordi's singles/music videos (bar Hard Rock Hallelujah) have been niminated for deletion; please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Would You Love a Monsterman?, Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Devil is a Loser,  Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blood Red Sandman and Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Who's Your Daddy? (song) to register an opinion. Blood Red Sandman Open Up Your Heart - Receive My EviLove 07:33, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lordi single AfDs 

message: I've changed the band formation date from 1997 to 1992. Not only did 1997 conflict with the information given in the article, it also conflicts with the formation date given in this article: http://www.hs.fi/english/article/Lordi+to+carry+Finnish+Eurovision+greetings+to+Athens+/1135219141003
--Muna 19:10, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formation date 

message: Can anyone find a source for the quotation in the paragraph? I left it in for now but edited some of the blatant Ozzfest advertising (which really has not got anything to do with Lordi) from it. Pasi 17:47, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ozzfest 

message: The new picture is excellent. In fact, it might even be worth nominating it to be a featured picture! If only we could get a group shot of the same quality. Pasi 14:22, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. A group shot would be wonderful. I could have done it in October in Glasgow, but I was too concerned with enjoying the gig (and admiring Awa, bizarre as that may seem) to worry about it. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)  (Contribs) 15:59, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great picture! 

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thread_title:  Dead link 

message: This article was not written by native English speakers and it shows. The grammar needs a total overhaul. I'll help when I have some time. Any takers? -- El Payaso Malo 69.155.122.196 (talk) 00:22, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: First of all, I am sure this has been discussed much before, and I know it is debateable whether this is the talk page to mention it on, but I feel it is the best spot. For all the individual member pages, shoudn't the article title be their stage name? I mean the Marilyn Manson, Slash and Johnny Ramone articles all use the stage name for the title. What does everyone else think? Soltake (talk) 01:26, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds like a great idea. -- El Payaso Malo 69.155.122.196 (talk) 00:22, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Names

message: Hey, is that picture really all that good for the band article? All you can make out is Mr. Lordi, and barely Amen. Arent there any pictures that show the whole band as is? Sadly, I cant provide one. But can anybody else? Oh, and it almost looks like a bunch of toys, but is that just the costume? The axe seems too give it away from me. Eatingcheese 14:54, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have put a photo that features every band members.--Nazzzz (talk) 19:47, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox Pic 

message: Why is there a Eurovision winners box at the bottom? There should be the one that links the band members, it isnt an article about how they won, its about the band. Please tell me your reasons for putting that up Eatingcheese 14:58, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a Eurovision winners box at the bottom of other Eurovision winners too, so why not this one? JIP | Talk 19:29, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another thing 

message: Why haven't the real names been readded? Duke toaster 16:45, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whilst the sources have got lost under all the revisions ... 

message: While I totally applaud your enthusiasm, until the information is published by a source other than MonsterDiscoHell, this song from the end credits of Dark Floors should not be listed on the article. As well, it's to be released in 2008, not 2007. If the information has been published elsewhere, feel free to add it back--just remember to cite your source. Otherwise, just be patient a bit longer. Believe me, I'm totally dying for new material, too!  --HamatoKameko (talk) 03:40, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. All three of us know it's true, but until we can prove it, we can't add it. Blood Red Sandman (Talk)  (Contribs) 11:01, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Beast Loose in Paradise" 

message: "The video has not been released because Putaansuu is in the video without a mask, but he has promised to put the video in the upcoming Lordi DVD." Where did you get this from? All Lordi members have promised their fans to never appear without masks. I am certain that if I ask Mr. Lordi himself about this he will laugh. At least that's what I did when I read it. So I'm going to remove it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.149.199.139 (talk) 13:08, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Inferno Video" 

message: If you look on the official forum, Awa says that she has never sung ANY of the backing vocals on "The Arockalypse" as she can't sing very well. ALL of the backing vocals are done by Mr Lordi and Kita, as they both can sing. Have edited the page accordingly 217.171.129.72 (talk) 13:40, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Backing Singers 

message: Could someone check the accuracy of this edit by an anonymous user? Perhaps add some sources to the discography section too. Cheers, --Commander Keane (talk) 09:42, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Check the accuracy of this edit please 

message: listen i love lordi, and i check this page often, so im dissapointed with how disorganized it is. theres no band history section at all, its just events made into sections put in chronological order. and you cant put a section about changing the record label in the middle of the article with no relation to the sections around it. and why is the musical style section in the band member tab?
this article needs a HUGE overhaul Ritzbitz00 (talk) 21:57, 12 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: somebody really needs to fix this article, the grammar and organization are horrific. people are editing this article, i checked the history, so why dont you spend five minutes making this article a little more... readable. 68.44.24.243 (talk) 16:21, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  this article is a bloody mess 

message: In the first album chart, I changed the Abbreviation of US Heatseekers, which was previously put as US Heart to US Heat. Its a very small change, but it stood out to me. If, for some reason it was supposed to be abbreviated as US Heart, change it back.
--User:Gogandantess (talk) 12:56, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slight change. 

message: It's not so much that the article is messy, as that large sections are simply incomprehensible.  It looks like it was written in Finnish and then run through a bad auto-translator.  I can't fix it because I don't know what it's trying to say, and don't know what the facts are.  Is there anyone out there who can straighten this out??  KarlM (talk) 07:09, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  more than just disorganized 

message: History section needs references--Idrol (talk) 09:35, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section 

message: ok,i came to this article looking for "evil love" to find out if it was a parody off another song
and its not listed anywhere on here? ,we should find a comlete list of all lordi music and albums,www.letssingit.com mabey? i havent cheaked
why im not doing this is simple,sucky grammar and spelling.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeharrietha (talk • contribs) 22:14, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Songs and details about songs are missing 

message: Sorry to those who work on this article, but this is not a B-class article. B-class generally requires that an article be "reasonably well-written", but there are almost incomprehensible sentences throughout this article. It looks like these are translations from Finnish. Examples only:
*"The time of the appearance of the album the band costumes and mask were also made reforms" (Popularity waning)
*"Tomi Putaansuu tried to Kalma get him to remain in the band suggested that he just playing the biggest tours and other gigs the band would be contracted to prime, which would be its own monster accessories." (Popularity waning)
*"Lordi has said before the appearance of the disc to be aware that Deadache will sell at least not in Finland, like its predecessor." (Deadache)
*"Over the years, the band's musical style has become heavier direction." (Band's music)
I suggest you get a native English speaker to go though the article from start to finish. No pun intended. 4u1e (talk) 05:54, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Downgraded to C class 

message: The word kauhutematiikkaa appears here just once without any explanation, and I can not find it in the main article that the section is about. What is it?--69.132.98.223 (talk) 15:42, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It is the partitive case of the word "kauhutematiikka", meaning "horror thematics". JIP | Talk 19:17, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  kauhutematiikkaa? 

message: I know for a fact that this will cause an edit war so it should be resolved quickly. the album Bend Over and Pray the Lord was officially released on September 3, 2012, along with the Scarchives Vol. 1 album. Beforehand there is no information about the album being released, hence why, despite its recording date being 1997, has the release date in 2012. I am unaware of the album being released beforehand since its not on the albums article nor on the bands article, so please discuss with references backing up your argument if you want to change this. -  21:25, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bend Over and Pray the Lord release date 

message: To the best of my knowledge, Greece and Cyprus - unlike stated in the article - are countries not with a Catholic but a Greek-Orthodox religious majority. --Arbraxan (talk) 01:40, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catholic countries? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Bend Over And Pray The Lord is not listed in the Discography nor is it marked on the timeline for the band. I see no reason it should not be included in the list. I am open for debate on weather it should be dated 1997 or 2012. My opinion for formatting is "Bend Over And Pray The Lord (1997, released 2012)" as well as a bar indicating the album in 1997 in the timeline graph. Any input? CerysPen (talk) 21:15, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that it should not be included on the timeline. Even though it was released in 2012, it was part of a compilation album called Scarchives Vol.1. I don't see any sources that would generally include it as an official release as it was never released - only in a compilation that was limited. HorrorLover555 (talk) 04:19, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I do have to agree with you, after digging deeper the band or at least Mr Lordi seem to have little interest in the album. It is a shame but there is no evidence I find to argue this is an "official" release or deserves much more mention then it already has. ~~~~ CerysPen (talk) 05:49, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bend Over And Pray The Lord Discography 

message: Below Provided is a list of all citations that no longer work and why if anyone as backups of these links or similar sources I would appreciate the time you'll save me.
1  (Page never loads),
16 (Cloud Flare Issue),
17 (Cloud Flare Issue),
26 (Page Removed),
31 (Citation goes to "search.blabbermouth.net" removing "search." from URL resolves issue),
40 (Page Removed),
CerysPen (talk) 06:33, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation Issues 

message: The image used in the infobox is hard to make out at its shrunken size, Hella and Mana are nearly invisible I recommend one of these two images, Official Photo or Monster Disco Hell Photo input or better photo suggestions appreciated. CerysPen (talk) 07:12, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: At the moment I disagree, as it is show an image of the band performing. I clicked on the image and both Hella and Mana are there, even when I was viewing it on the infobox. HorrorLover555 (talk) 16:38, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Well no doubt there their and visible when the image is opened and make larger but but at its smaller scale they're hard to make out, It should be made as easy as possible to see all members in the photo. CerysPen (talk) 04:20, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox Image 

message: For the last few weeks I have been working on missing pages for members, I now find the question is publishing the real names of active members right? There is multiple sources naming these members but as is the nature of the band there is nothing official. I see no problem naming former members who have left the persona, but putting active members real names on this resources doesn't feel right. Any thoughts?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by CerysPen (talk • contribs) 17:41, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Reading through the lead, the members have stated that they wish for their names to be private. For the article name, most likely not, but their real names can be used in the lead summaries, as long as their stage name is covered afterwards. HorrorLover555 (talk) 18:26, 5 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real names 

message: As per Draft:Mana (Finnish musician) there needs to be a " rough consensus" that the page should exist so I am put out a RFC to anyone who may find them selves editing the wiki to share their thoughts.CerysPen (talk) 04:57, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consideration 

message: The Finnish version of the article list the band as glam metal. Should it be added here? Seaparrot876 (talk) 10:01, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it covered by a reliable source? Make sure that there is a reliable source that can cover it, although there is a musical style in the section already that covers on it being hard rock, heavy metal and to a certain extent, shock rock. HorrorLover555 (talk) 16:32, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Glam metal?