Talk:Lilburn Boggs

message: This language is absurd, paranoid, PoV, and inflammatory:
:  For over 130 years it was legal to "exterminate" Mormons in Missouri until ...
On the other hand,
* If it is verifiable that that is what Mormons are taught, we should state that. 
* If that's what Bond said in his apology, we should state that. 
* And no doubt there were anti-Mormon Missourians who thot an executive order could suspend the homicide laws (perhaps despite, besides before, the "due process" amendments). If any of them can be verified to have acted upon that belief those could even be events worthy not only of mention here but of individual articles. But even instances of such a belief or defense would have to be distinguished from crimes committed in the atmosphere that at least the decade or so that included such an order would stem from and perpetuate; probably many (and perhaps most) went unpunished because of something entirely different from  it being legal, or even being believed legal. For example, false claims of self-defense or of accidental deaths, that produced reasonable doubt or jury nullification, may be an aspect of the religion-based parallel of genocide ([wink] credocide, 2 of about 7? credicide, 37 of about 320? ), but they are not instances of acts of "extermination" being legal.
--Jerzy•t 21:20, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Legal to "exterminate" Mormons in Missouri' 

message: I recall in History class hearing that one of the BB's from assassination attempt came through Boggs nose while he was speaking before the State Senate, to which he replied something along the lines of "I told you there were a few things loose"  Can anyone verify this  71.213.75.114 00:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boggs bullet comes out in meeting 

message: I posted the official portrait of Boggs.  The image below has an attribution issue but I don't want to be the one who orphans or deletes it.  Americasroof 01:38, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Orphaned Image

message: At first reading this article strikes me as having some WP:POV and neutrality issues. It seems very "pro-Mormon" if you will, with some rather inflamatory language. I'm not anti-Mormon at all, so don't jump down my pie hole, I'm just "pro-Neutrality". How about a rewrite using more sources not associated with the LDS point of view? Think I'll add this to my growing list of Mo. Governor projects to work on, but it may be awhile. Anyone else want to take a crack at it first be my guest. Have a great Wiki kinda day! Sector001 (talk) 16:09, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pro-Mormom 'spin'?  

message: The info in the article has a reference or two claiming that there was a trial of Porter Rockwell and that he was acquitted (while some other articles say he was convicted.)  But, various other things I've read indicate that instead the grand jury did not find enough evidence to issue an indictment for murder.  Therefore, there was no trial for murder.  The Porter Rockwell article does indicate an indictment and conviction for Rockwell's jail break while under arrest, but that is a separate matter.  Why the discrepancy? Is there a definitive well researched account that has all of the particulars? Red Harvest (talk) 01:24, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assassination attempt, don't believe there was an actual trial 

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message: A Citation Needed flag is affixed to "although most of Boggs' contemporaries remained convinced of his guilt."  It seems to me this phrase constitutes OR and is not neutral.  As such, it should require no citation, only deletion.  In addition, "cotemporaries" is ambiguous.  If a citation could be found, the wording would first require a definition of who is meant by "contemporaries."  Finally, Boggs remained convinced of Porter's guilt but we know of no evidence or reason for his belief.  So if others shared this belief, it is of value to know it as relevant to the scene but not mistake it as adding legitimacy to the belief.   I would not be too surprised to find out that in fact, someone like Porter did pull the trigger but this article should reflect the fact that we have no evidence or reason to indict Porter.  But this does not mean that Boggs had no reason, we just do not know if he did have.
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thread_title:  Citation Not Needed?