Talk:Sex and drugs

message: Now all we need is a corresponding article on drugs and rock'n'roll. -- 23:17, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This page is missing a lot of good information, and I don't have enough time to add it all.  Here's a partial list of substances that ought to be added to the page: 2-CB, Foxy (5-MeO-DiPT), pot (cannabis), maca (lipidium meyenii), tribulus terrestris, tongkat ali (eurycoma longifolia), butea superba, ho shou wu (fo ti, I forgot the Linnean name), yohimbe, yohimbine, the dopamine agonists/prolactin inhibitors cabergoline (Dostinex) and bromocriptine, and anabolic/androgenic steroids (including the proposed transdermal testosterone patch for women which the FDA rejected due to side effects).  Also, while it's very sensual, MDMA really isn't that sexy, and many men find that it prevents them from getting an erection.  Bremelanotide is definitely NOT the first scientifically accepted aphrodisiac, it's just the first (except the testosterone patch) that was developed by a drug company specifically with that purpose in mind.  Want to help?  Look some of these things up on Google Scholar or Erowid.org or Google and add what you find either here or to the aphrodisiac page.  In particular, I know controlled studies have been done on maca and tribulus and their effects on libido (large effect) and sex hormones (no apparent effect, contrary to what most marketers say) in both sexes as well as sperm volume in men. Jtoomim (talk) 19:37, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree. GHB might be added as well. Everybody got to be somewhere! (talk) 15:29, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stuff to add 

message: I just made an edit.  Most of the stuff I changed was minor: adding comma, fixing grammar, stuff like that.  But one change might be considered major.
For some reason , Special:Contributions/119.159.9.16 added the following sentence on 16 July 2012:
:Many sexual activities have side effects on people's concentration and these activities include (hand practice and secretion of your sperm)the attraction towards people(male and female)happens because of the atmosphere you have around you and the environment.
For over a year now, this was the first sentence a person would read when coming to this article.
This sentence seems to make very little sense, and, insofar as it does make sense, it seems grammatically unsound.  The reference to "hand practice and secretion of your sperm" sounds like male masturbation, and in no way does Special:Contributions/119.159.9.16 make it clear what connection between male masturbation and drugs she or he is drawing.  It is also unclear why "hand practice and secretion of your sperm" is referenced parenthetically.  Whether sexual activities have side effects on human concentration, or upon anything else, also seems unrelated to the subject of the article.  The sentence goes on to reference "the attraction towards people" while providing no punctuation to indicate that a new thought is being expressed.  This makes it seem like Special:Contributions/119.159.9.16 is saying that sexual activities that have side effects on concentration include "the attraction towards people," even thought attraction is a noun, not a verb.  The writer follows that up by another unexplained and unnecessary parenthetical, and concludes by saying, "happens because of the atmosphere you have around you and the environment."  Even if Special:Contributions/119.159.9.16 is trying to say that human sexual attraction is the result of atmosphere and environment (which she or he does not back up with any citations), the writer still makes no connection between sexual attraction and drugs.
All in all, I find this sentence to be nonsensical, poorly written, lacking in citation, and irrelevant to the subject of the article.  So, I removed it.
There is only one reason why I am explaining my deletion.  Namely, because this apparently nonsensical sentence has survived for over a year.  Ten edits have been made to this article since Special:Contributions/119.159.9.16 added her or his sentence, and I was the only editor to take action to remove the sentence.  Therefore, perhaps that means other Wikipedians see some sort of merit in retaining that sentence.  If you believe that any such merit exists, feel free to offer an explanation below.
Cheers,
Allixpeeke (talk) 19:29, 28 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: I just made an edit

message: This article needs to be greatly expanded, as this is potentially a very wide-ranging topic. Because all sexual behavior is ultimately founded on chemical processes, drugs can affect it in many different ways, and because sexual behavior is of great importance to society, these interactions often have great social implications (most notably, in present day society, in the case of abortion, contraception and date rape drugs).
* Drugs that can affect sexuality can be legal, or illegal.  They can be socially sanctioned, or disapproved of.
* Some can have far-reaching social consequences (oral contraceptives, the availability of penicillin treatment post-WWII)
* Drugs with sexual effects can be ancient, such as in the case of alcohol, or novel.
* Their effects can be desirable or undesirable, harmless or harmful. 
* They can benefit sexual function, or they can prevent it. 
* Some drugs with alleged sexual effects are actually completely ineffective. (For example, most purported aphrodisiacs and "male performance enhancers" throughout history.)
* Their effects can be intentional, or unintentional. 
* Drugs can facilitate the transmission of sexually transmitted diseases, but also treat them.
* They can have effects on reproduction, both positive (contraceptive drugs, or fertility enhancement drugs) or undesirable (abortifacients, teratogens), or, in cases such as abortion drugs and contraceptives, both, depending on your point of view. 
* Drugs that are legal in one jurisdiction can be illegal in another; or even, in some circumstances, a drug that is legal can be illegal when used for a specific purpose, such as abortion
* Effects that are generally regarded as harmful, such as elimination of libido, may be viewed as beneficial in others, or even in some cases enforced by law, for example in the case of chemical castration. 
And so on. This is an enormously complex topic, and it's a shame to have only such a very small article on it at the moment. 
But how to structure this? The above list gives at the very least the following conceptual dimensions:
* Legality
* Social acceptance
* Desirability of effects
* Medical vs. recreational
* What aspect affected? (Desire, self-control, sexual performance, sexual pleasure, reproduction [which itself has several stages], disease...?)
* Effectiveness
* Novel vs. ancient
* Natural origin vs. synthetic
* Intentional vs unintentional effects
* Voluntary vs. involuntary use
* Use vs. misuse (which is almost the same as the social acceptance dimension)
* Variation of all the above across cultures and eras
* Controversy within cultures ditto
Should this possibly be a series of articles, eg. drugs and sexual desire, drugs and sexual consent, drugs and sexual performance, drugs and fertility, drugs and gestation, medical abortion, drugs and sexually transmitted diseases...?
Or we can try other dimensions, eg. sexual side-effects of drugs?
-- The Anome (talk) 01:42, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and of course the inevitable sex and drugs in popular culture... -- The Anome (talk) 02:54, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need for substantial expansion 

message: Someone explain to me how much you want dope and sex 174.247.240.187 (talk) 01:38, 5 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meth and masturbating 

message: More modern articles could be used to bulk up the content of the article. Most of the links appear to work. I think the quality of the journals is fine, mostly scientific and peer-reviewed, just a little out of date especially with the amount of research available on drugs 
GracieLemon (talk) 01:16, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: What is something fun harmless cool to do during pnp 2600:1700:9EF0:18C0:F4A5:B603:A324:9EDC (talk) 01:40, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fun things to do with pnp 

message: These are very similar topics that is best to be merged instead of this page being blanked. 1233 ( T / C） 11:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Approve merge Significa liberdade (she/her) (talk) 00:13, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Support merge. Procyon117 (talk) 15:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Support merge as proposed. Gjs238 (talk) 20:05, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[Drugs and sexual performance]] into [[Sex and drugs]]