Talk:Duraiappa stadium mass grave

message: I removed :Image:Duraiappah Stadium.jpeg for being violation of Wikipedia:Non-free content#Policy item 8. In short, there is no need for us to have a picture of the stadium under reconstruction. Having this picture does not give the reader any more information than can be understood from the text alone. As such, it serves only a decorative purpose. It could easily be replaced a picture of the modern stadium that has the caption, "Duraiapph Stadium, where a mass grave was discovered during reconstruction." howcheng  {chat} 20:56, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks will try to find a picture of the modern stadium if available Taprobanus 21:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
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message: I have a few questions about the text about "Paramanthan Selvarajah"
#Which "the Times" does this refer to? I'm assuming its the Times of London and not say a shortened form of the NY times, LA times, Sunday Times etc.
#Which page / section does the article appear, if available?
#Does the article in anyway link the disapperance of Selvarajah's son to this Duraiappa incident? Because as the article stands, the only connection seems to be that Selvarajah was a witness to the incident. That does not mean we can elaborate on his son's disappearance in this article. Because his son disappeared in 1996 and the grave in dated to the 1980s, I see no connection.
Appreciate is someone can answer these for now. --snowolfD4(  talk /  @ ) 18:03, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: At least some relevant questions, yes it is Times of London, I will get the exact page number that this appeared on when I am back Taprobanus 23:21, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, Does the article in anyway link the disappearance of Selvarajah's son to this Duraiappa incident? --snowolfD4(  talk /  @ ) 00:26, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am no longer wiling to discuss piece meal with you about this article, if you want to fully particiapte on the complete article issues such as totally disputed tag, sources, categories and its relevance to eye witness account then we can talk comprehensively. Thanks Taprobanus 17:22, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I am not ignoring your question, what is needed is a comprehensive discussion about this article. About Selvarajah's sone we dont have consensus. Why not his eye witness account not part of the article, whay not the fact his son was missing this part of the article ? He is an eye witness and his son is missing. It should be part of the article. Period. To make it easy for you to discuss I will list out the differences. They are 
* (1)Totatly disputed tag
* (2)Sources used
* (3)Selvarajah's ey witness account
* (4)categories
These are the differences. If you want to talk, Let's talk from item 1 to item to item 4. Otherwise I am going on to other articles such as Embilipitiya massacre and mass graves and yet other countless masacre, mass grave and raped and killed women. Dont waste my time. When you are serious about talking, let's do it otherwise sayanora Taprobanus 22:38, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I am yet to understand why we are running around in circles here. What does the (non)/inclusion of the categories have to do with this? Either answer the question as to whether the two incidents are linked together in the article, or agree that the whole section doesn't belong. Just because Selvarajah was a witness to this incident, it doesn't mean we have to relate other part of his life in this article. In my opinion this is an obvious attempt by biased Wiki editors to link the Sri Lanka Army to this alleged grave site, thereby misleading readers of this article, when no one else has suggested any such links. --snowolfD4(  talk /  @ ) 21:02, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Sorry friend, which source says categorically that the mass grave incident happened when LTTE or IPKF was in charge. Where is the prrof of forensic evidence ? where is the citation for that. All what we have is assumptions by the citatations, hence all options have to be presented in this article including the fact that the dead may have come from the eye witnesses son. After all he was an eye witness to the digging and his son is missing. It is relevant 20:33, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Although not conclusively proven, pretty much all articles about the incident place it in the late 1980s. While that does not mean for certain the killing did take place prior to 1996, a reliable source has to have connected the two incidents for them both to be mentioned in this one article. Your failure to answer my question whether the Times article did in fact connect the two incidents or was merely focusing on another issue, I'm pretty sure the latter can be inferred. --snowolfD4(  talk /  @ ) 22:39, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've disabled the editprotected request. Let's wait for a little consensus for a change to such a controversial page. Cheers. --MZMcBride 23:54, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, then I'll ask (for I believe the 8th time :), does the article in the Times newspaper in anyway link the disappearance of Selvarajah's son with the graves uncovered beneath the Stadium? --snowolfD4(  talk /  @ ) 00:35, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I will answer for the 8 th time then :)) first you use the citations to say that some kind of incident happened that was during the IPKF or  LTTE period. So what was that incident, a mass grave I suppose? But you don’t agree that it was a mass grave so what are we talking about here some other kind of incident ?  If you agree that these citations are citing that a mass grave happened during the 1980’which is the reason for the existence of this article then we can go to the next step as to should an eye witness account who is looking for his son who disappeared in Sri Lanka in the 1990s should be included or not. I don’t know what they teach now days in Universities but always get to the bottom of the argument and break it down to its elements and then we can achieve consensus. It is not that difficult. Currently as we stand this article’s citations conclusively do not conclude that the mass grave happened during the 1980s so all aspects of the possibilities have to be included so that this article can pass Neutral point of view. ThanksTaprobanus 14:27, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Times" source 

message: ===Mass grave===
Is it a mass grave ? (yes/no)
* Yes Taprobanus 12:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Proven what? we are not judges we simply say what others say. This is a documentation project not a judging and truth telling project. Thanks Taprobanus 14:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: excuse me, we are writing an encyclopaedia. Not a tabloid newspaper. Not a tamil blog run by LTTE supporters.. So please be constructive and provide valid citations if you add anything. There is a genuine argument against calling this a mass grave and respect that first. Or at least try to respect what others have to say regarding this. Even if we leave all the definitions, I doubt whether this incident actually happened or not. Reason is obvious, lack of WP:RS. Please don't make me repeat same thing over and over .Iwazaki  会話。討論 13:17, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Straw poll

message: Is it a mass grave ? (yes/no)
* Yes Taprobanus 12:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Proven what? we are not judges we simply say what others say. This is a documentation project not a judging and truth telling project. Thanks Taprobanus 14:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: excuse me, we are writing an encyclopaedia. Not a tabloid newspaper. Not a tamil blog run by LTTE supporters.. So please be constructive and provide valid citations if you add anything. There is a genuine argument against calling this a mass grave and respect that first. Or at least try to respect what others have to say regarding this. Even if we leave all the definitions, I doubt whether this incident actually happened or not. Reason is obvious, lack of WP:RS. Please don't make me repeat same thing over and over .Iwazaki  会話。討論 13:17, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mass grave

message: Does it belong in Sri Lankan Tamil history ? (yes/no)
*Yes Taprobanus 12:28, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sri Lankan Tamil history

message: Does it belong in the Sri lankan history (yes/no)?
*Yes Taprobanus 14:29, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sri Lankan history

message: Does it belong in Human rights in Sri Lanka (yes/No)
*YesTaprobanus 14:57, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Human rights in Sri Lanka

message: Greetings from Wikiproject Disambiguation!  When the children are finished fighting, please disambiguate the links to Sinhalese and Sinhala. — Randall Bart (talk) 01:09, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguate Sinhalese and Sinhala 

message: Please take it to SLR if you disagree with my edits. Thanks Taprobanus (talk) 00:55, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
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