Talk:Martyrs' Day (Panama)

message: *This article is POV at points, in my opinion.  Saying things like "rather conclusively" is a rather silly and heavy-handed way of attacking the United States position on the events in Panama in 1964.  The rest of the article is ok.
*Yep, it needs a going over for POV statements like "the most blameless."  It's not too bad on the whole, but the emphasis on "martyrdom" and such is rather biased. Night Gyr 11:28, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
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message: RE: "In response, outraged Zonians began demonstrating with the U.S. flag. After the first U.S. flag to be raised at Balboa High School was taken down by school officials, the students walked out of class, raised another flag, and posted guards to prevent its removal. Most Zonian adults sympathized with the student demonstrators," in the "Background Section." Maybe I'm missing it, but I don't think the article explains what a "zonian" (a US person living within the Canal Zone), nor does it explain that "Balboa High School" was a high school for the children of US Canal Zone Employees. --72.47.85.92 (talk) 05:39, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
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message: I was a student at Balboa High School and just happened to be serving detention in library on the second floor, facing the flag pole when the event occurred. I had a great view as there is a balcony with large windows and doors looking out on the front lawn of the school and flag pole. I watched the entire incident of the Panamanians coming to the flag pole in front of  Balboa HS and the Panamanian flag being torn. 
The background was that some days prior, the word had gotten out that the Canal Zone officials were going to remove the flag pole in front of Balboa HS, as well as other locations within the CZ.  This didn't sit well with the Balboa students or their parents, so they jointly organized a 24/7 vigil around the Balboa HS flag pole.  A phone tree was loosely put together so that word would go out quickly to all if any pole removal actions were enacted.  At least a couple of times removal was attempted but parents and students quickly gathered and bolstered the small vigil group and removal was prevented.  The plan was for someone to shinny up the pole and the rest of the group tightly surround the pole to prevent access.
On the day of the incident, around 4 PM, word had spread to the CZ group that a large number of Panamanians had entered the Canal Zone permitter and were headed toward Balboa High School holding a old and historic Panamanian flag.  Word spread quickly and the Canal Zone students and parents surrounded the flag pole, which, at the time was flying the American Flag.  The Zonians were probably 500 or more strong when the Panamanians arrived and at least 75 or more feet deep, encircling pole.  There were around 5 to 8 Panamanian students in a row holding up a 5X9 Panamanian Flag, in front of a group of maybe 200 or so Panamanian students.  Apparently the Panamanians were demanding that the American flag be taken down and the Panamanian flag hoisted up in it's place.  The Canal Zone students and parents were not having any of that began chanting loudly, NO, NO, NO, NO.  
Additionally, were around 25 or more Canal Zone Police officers wearing Blue helmets and armed with batons, in between in the 30 foot or so space separating the two groups.  Talks between the CZ Police and the Panamanian students seemed to break down when the CZ group began chanting, NO.  At that point the police, holding their batons at port arms, started to slowly push the Panamanian flag bearers back.  One of the students in the middle who was holding the Panamanian flag fell backwards and went down, tearing the Panamanian flag a foot or so.  The kid quickly got back on his feet but the damage had been done and the Panamanian crowd went nuts, shouting and screaming.  The CZ group immediately moved in behind the CZ police, then attempted to slowly surround the the Panamanian students. The police then turned their attention the to the CZ group to prevent any confrontations between the two groups. The Panamanians started backing up quickly, being vastly outnumbered, and then headed back towards Panama City, eventually setting several cars and garbage cans on fire along the way.  That is basically when the Flag Riot, as we CZ folks called it, began. Czarmyhskid (talk) 03:37, 5 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tearing of the Panamanian Flag