Talk:Oku-sama wa Mahō Shōjo: Bewitched Agnes

message: Surely, not every single event being cited takes place 23 minutes in. I think it's safe to assume that someone took the minutes= parameter to mean length of the show, rather than location in show. Unless someone objects, I'll remove that parameter throughout. —Quasirandom (talk) 21:17, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for that.  I had assumed that that's what that was meant for, given that it would be pretty anal-retentive to sit there and clock when every event happened.--Fuen Fuboo (talk) 18:25, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode citations 

message: I've removed a large section from the character list that lays out various facts and analyzes them in an attempt to come to a conclusion, because this is original research which by Wikipedia policy is not allowed. Per the guidelines for writing about fiction, the work is an acceptable source only for elements of plot and character that require no interpretation, and analysis is interpretation. In my removal, I kept those details that seemed to me to be about Ururu and Nori and their relationship with Ureshiko; if you think other details need rescuing, you can use this history of the edit to do so. However, the analysis cannot be restored without citations to reliable third-party sources that discuss the issue. —Quasirandom (talk) 16:04, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research 

message: Sometimes "Bewitched Agnès" and "奥様は魔法少女" appear without the other. For example, in the DVD scan as shown in the article itself, "Bewitched Agnès" does not appear. In the manga cover, both the English and Japanese appear, but the inside says in English "Bewitched Agnès / Volume 01 / Tohko Kanno Presents." Amazon Japan and other online shopping sites lists it without the "Bewitched Agnès" portion in the article title. The English and Japanese portions are combined only in graphical artwork (without a colon), while  "Bewitched Agnès" is never uttered in the anime DVDs.  These facts seem to suggest that "Bewitched Agnès" is meant to be the English title while "奥様は魔法少女" is meant to be the Japanese title, as opposed to them being always concatenated. As an aside, does the article spell her as Agnes, without a grave accent, for a reason? —Tokek (talk) 19:08, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't speak to whether the present subtitle is supposed to be the translated title without further research, but as for the grave accent, I suspect the article creator(s) simply didn't notice it. I know I didn't until you pointed it out. —Quasirandom (talk) 19:14, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Good questions!  I've wondered about the Bewitched Agnes part since I started working in the page all those months ago.  It was already there, and I really wasn't comfortable messing with the article's title (I didn't want the page to get deleted somehow!).  The second question I can answer with much more clarity: again, when I found the page, it was about a paragraph long, and it did not have any accents on it.  The fan translation I originally watched appears on all the major websites like Crunchyroll and even Youtube, and it does not use an accent.  To stay true to that translation, I did not include it--my fear is that if we include it, people who have only watched the translation are going to be confused by it.  While animenewsnetwork.com includes the accent, animeinfo.com does not.  Since the English version of Wikipedia is read by a traditionally Western audience, seeing the name written that way may appear a bit clumsy.  But, yes, Tokek is technically correct.  If you'd like, we can go through and change them all as we make other edits.  I wouldn't advise making a special project out of it, though.--Fuen Fuboo (talk) 02:01, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title 

message: The episode and characters should be split into their own articles. The main article has shown enough to pass WP:N so splitting those segments off shouldn't be an issue. For characters though, only the important ones should be kept in the split.陣内Jinnai 22:23, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Would recommend cleaning while also splitting - particularly the episodes, but only after notability has actually been shown in this article (which it has not). -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 22:38, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Episode lists do not have to show notability and the length of the series is not so long that it would constitute not listing the episodes. The anime just needs to show notability in and of itself. Indivisual episodes, if they want a specific article need to as well; lists do not.陣内Jinnai 00:03, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I was referring to the anime, not the list. A split shouldn't be done from an article until the main article (i.e. the anime) has demonstrated notability. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 01:46, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Split would be premature: finish cleaning up (which seems to have been on hiatus for several months) then evaluate whether splitting is appropriate. —Quasirandom (talk) 19:49, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well don't know how many of those characters is notable, but 12 episodes to potentially stand as a FL.陣内Jinnai 07:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting 

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