Talk:Tatra 77

message: IF YOU HAVE ANY GOOD QUALITY PICTURES OF T77 PLEASE ADD THEM TO COMMONS AND SUBSEQUENTLY TO THIS ARTICLE Cimmerian praetor (talk) 09:25, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Is it really midsize car? It was six seater. The height was much lower than other cars of the era, but the internal space seems large enough to put it into larger class, doesn't it? Cimmerian praetor (talk) 22:13, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know if it's relevant to categorise vintage cars according more modern kind of classes. I'd prefer to drop off the definition. --Gwafton (talk) 10:50, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  midsize 6 seater? 

message: There are a number of fundamental errors in this piece:
"That led to putting the engine in the rear of the car, directly above the driven axle"  The engine is not directly above the driven axle, but entirely behind it, as in most rear-engined cars.  William Bushnell Stout's Scarabs from 1932 had this unusual configuration, but Tatra did not install engines between the wheels until the T613 of 1973.
"…no more need for a floor tunnel"  ...but there's still a substantial central box-section backbone that just doesn't have a propshaft in it.
"…the oil cooler, battery and spare wheel were positioned in the front of the car"  The two oil coolers are in the engine compartment, not at the front, high up and either side.  This is confusion with the later T87, T97 and the post-WW2 Tatraplan.  Two spare wheels are carried in the front compartment, partly for improved front/rear weight distribution.
"The frameless body…"  The T77 and T77A all had coachbuilt ash-framed bodies (with Elektron B-pillars on some, at least) on a steel platform chassis.  It was the later cars that, apart from ash-framed cable-tensioned doors, were all-steel.
"…only the door hinges protruded slightly"  Most, if not all, production cars had entirely concealed hinges, unlike the subsequent T87 and T97.
At 5,300mm including the bumpers, and 1,700kg (1,800kg for the T77A), the six-seater Tatra is unarguably a large car by all but US standards, and particularly so back in its day.
There appears, also, to be a determination to persist with the "first serial-produced, truly aerodynamically-designed automobile" assertion, despite the clear precedent of Rumpler's Tropfenwagen, with its symmetrical aerofoil plan, very low Cd and slightly more produced at 100 v. 95 than the T77. Multiple sources are claimed, but these are mostly parroting earlier ones, which is a major problem with Tatra history.
User talk:Heckmotor97 (talk) 09:23, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some misconceptions 

message: The claim seems to come from a single source, and I find it highly dubious. The 77 and 87 were manufactured in quite limited amount, only about 3,500 cars altogether. I don't know how many officers were KIA in WWII, but Germany lost almost 5 million soldiers in combat and if even a minute part of those would have been "high-ranking officers", it would mean that thousands of officers were lost in combat. For generals alone, Germany lost 136 of them in combat, so it seems highly unlikely that one car could cause so much casualties as it was not that common.  
Mleppanen (talk) 14:07, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Killed more high-ranking German officers than Germany lost in active combat? 

message: The well-known image of Übelacker standing beside a two-door car is captioned "Erich Übelacker in front of the prototype T77, a two-door coupé". This unique vehicle is not a T77 at all, prototype or otherwise, but a later T87 development mule with that next model's machinery housed in shortened 3-headlight T77a bodywork. Unless anyone objects, I shall correct this in due course.  Heckmotor97 (talk) 18:14, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Versions ...picture caption 

message: Here you can see some wind tunnel models of the Rumpler Tropfenwagen.
https://twitter.com/dlr_de/status/1130437658390482944
I don't want to spoil the article. I'm not an English native speaker and that's the first section of the article. That's why I would like to ask, that someone corrects the article. But even the Tropenwagen wasn't the first streamlined car. At least there was a prototype Alfa Romeo Aerodinamica of 1913.
If nobody does this, maybe I will edit the article next month. Nfp (talk) 22:32, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The article is wrong. Rumpler Tropfenwagen was a serial made and wind tunnel optimized car - in 1921!