Talk:Stock market crash

message: How about "crash" now in 2007,f u b or was that not a so called crash?? Can anyone please point me to some online reading about what happened and why - as I've found not many articles about this, despite looking on many financial websites
: It's a little too early to call it a crash just yet.  Most commentators are calling it a "correction". As far as causes for the recent downturn, the one that's mentioned the most is the fear that China would clamp down on speculative excesses in their stock market. But sometimes crashes happen, for no apparent reason.  When stock prices seem very high, people can get nervous and make a crash a self-fulfilling prophecy. WynnQuon 22:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  How about now?  Is it still to early to say the stock market is crashing as we speak?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.123.165.106 (talk) 15:27, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 2007 crash

message: Shouldn't the series of crashes that occurred in Nasdaq leading to a decline in market barometer assessment from 5200 to roughly 1600 be included?  Or does an 80% decline in value not constitute a market crash?  This market decline also starkly affected the European and Asian stock markets that were linked to the Nasdaq...  
Also, why isn't the crash in Japan in 1987 or 1988 mentioned? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stevenmitchell (talk • contribs) 11:09, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah they need to be added. If you have time pls do so. --Dilaudid 09:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about the Crash of 2000 in the U.S. & the Japanese Crash of 1987? 

message: We seem to be experiencing an increase in vandalism.  My personal objective is to have any vandalism reverted within 12 hours or less.
Goodbye sad vandals.74.12.249.98 04:09, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: I think we may need to work on getting some external links on this page, there is not that much information here, and there are resources all over the internet to learn about the various Stock Market crashes domestic and foregin that have happened. What are your opinions on this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.118.190.226 (talk) 20:28, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: The paragraph about the October 1987 contain the statement "Trading in many stocks encountered a pathological condition where the ask price for a stock exceeded the bid price. These "locked" conditions severely curtailed trading."   which is nonsense.   I don't know what the author was trying to say,  but what they said makes no sense.  The "ask price" always exceeds the "bid price".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Eregli bob (talk • contribs) 03:33, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Normally the ask price is higher than bid, but believe it or not, this can break down under severe circumstances and even under normal circumstances across markets.  See for example, this discussion: http://www.financetech.com/featured/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=14702074 and this long academic study: http://www.fma.org/Chicago/Papers/LockednCrossedMarkets-FMA.pdf  WynnQuon (talk) 04:54, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Do you understand what the first link you are refering to says? It describes a situation where the bid price exceeds the ask price, which is an order matching/routing/communication problem if not outright 'pathological'. The original complaint above is correct, the mention in the article is if not nonsense then badly mixed up. It should be 'where the bid price for a stock exceeded the ask price' which I'm going to correct.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.131.12.97 (talk) 20:09, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  This was a misunderstanding on my part. I read my own text wrong and didn't catch the mistake! Thanks for the correction.  It is now good and makes sense.WynnQuon (talk) 19:49, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nonsense statement? 

message: People have been trying to add information to the article about a 2008 stock market crash (which never happened). This will probably continue, so I propose that we temporarily lock this article to prevent it from happening in the future. History Wizard (talk) 14:31, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Most business media outlets are referring to it as a stock market crash. Also, it was the biggest decline in US history and in other parts of the world, some stock markets lost more than half their value. I also added that the IMF suggests that the entire financial system faces a "meltdown." The stock market crash happened, like it or not. Dtaw2001 (talk) 18:11, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Lock

message: As some wikipedia editors have decided to engage in fear and panic mongering on the non-existent crash of 2008, I'm going to leave it as a testament to all on how much wikipedia is wrong. However, every source you add with the media using hysteria and panic to call this a "crash" I will counter with one that says no crash exists. Stop the fear mongering. LowLevelMason (talk) 05:10, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You can't be serious. The market is down 40% since it highs.--JohnnyB256 (talk) 12:04, 11 October 2008 (UTC)

text: LowLevelMason, you are only citing your own opinion.  Please learn how Wikipedia works -- read WP:NOR and WP:RS.  Also, Wikipedia itself isn't going to cause a widespread panic, we are just trying to follow reality.  Also, do not accuse me of vandalism (as you did here ) when I use proper citation and you rely on only your own opinion, doing so is pretty ridiculous and is clearly out of line.  I do totally accept that whether or not it is a crash right now is debatable, but it is clearly debatable and being discussed in reputable sources and thus that debate is clearly open for inclusion in Wikipedia as long as we present it accurately.  --John Bahrain (talk) 12:55, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please learn how wikipedia works. I am citing sources to confirm your fear mongering. You, on the other hand, are engaging in original research and NPOV. Stop it. If you continue I will continue to warn you for vandalism and report you. You need to review WP:RS, as the sourced cited are not only credible but far further than the fear mongering sources you are using. LowLevelMason (talk) 22:00, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The head of the IMF says that we are facing a global financial meltdown. The IMF is not an organization that supports fear mongering my friend. This is not original research, they are documented facts with references to back them up. Dtaw2001 (talk) 18:14, 12 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Wrong, Seeking Alpha is a leading market analysis website and the BMI quotes are relevant. Stop vandalizing.LowLevelMason (talk) 01:25, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, Seeking Alpha is a web republisher that mainly copies blogs and articles. It does have some good stuff but it would depend on the reliability of the individual author.--JohnnyB256 (talk) 02:41, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop with the NPOV fear mongering 

message: Currently:
"Stock market crashes are in fact social phenomena where external economic events combine with crowd behavior and psychology in a positive feedback loop where selling by some market participants drives more market participants to sell."
Would that concept not in fact describe all stock market motion in general?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.149.61 (talk) 14:23, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Annoying Ipse Dixit Statement 

message: The Wikipedia Manual of Style advises against abbreviations like op. cit., suggesting "named references" instead. However, the Manual of Style also advocates using the most specific reference possible: references to a specific page or specific chapter instead of a whole work. Unfortunately, as far as I know there is no way to use a single named reference to refer repeatedly to different chapters or pages of the same work. Therefore I think it is appropriate that some editors have used op. cit. instead of "named references". But if someone else knows a better way of dealing with this, please go ahead.  --Rinconsoleao (talk) 14:33, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  op. cit. 

message: I'm confused by the section on the 1987 crash. In the second paragraph of the Black Tuesday section, this article states that "The crash on Oct 19, 1987, a date that is also known as Black Tuesday..." But October 19, 1987 was on a Monday and the link to Black Tuesday (1987) actually redirects to Black Monday (1987).
My assumption is that the initial drop occurred on Monday the 19th and there was additional drop off the next day, Tuesday - similar to the Black Monday and Black Tuesday of 1929 (see Wall Street Crash of 1929).
I think some minor correction/clarification is needed but I leave that to someone who actually knows something about this topic, which I do not.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by J bradford21 (talk • contribs) 17:26, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It says Black Monday now. Anomalocaris (talk) 20:01, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  1987 - Monday or Tuesday?? 

message: I noticed some vandalism by user at IP address 99.61.133.119 and fixed what was obvious in the See Also section.  While doing so and trying to track back to the origin of the vandalism I noticed what looked like vandalism from other user IPs, though did not have the time available to check which had been corrected and which still needed to be corrected.  Just wanted to bring this to the attention of those working on this project and page.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/99.61.133.119
Hopefully this helps, perhaps this would be a good page to require users to be registered to edit it? Der.Gray (talk) 03:36, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: I am surprised this is not mentioned. On a graph it certainly looks like a crash, a sharp almost diving pattern to around 6500. Is this not considered a crash by anyone? I would expect there to be some consensus on this. I will investigate. TimL (talk) 20:35, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: here is one source, http://leatherheadblog.com/2008/09/30/top-10-market-crashes/ TimL (talk) 20:43, 24 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crash of March 2009? 

message: It'd be nice to see different crashes compared in real GDP per capita, e.g. from early 1900s to today. Cheers! Ben  T/C  16:35, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparing different market crashes 

message: "A recent phenomenon, known as the RR Reversal, has also been well documented in recent years – where a rapidly increasing stock experiences an inexplicable and sudden pullback to the magnitude of 10 – 40% within a month. "
I love information that is "well documented" yet unsourced. However, in this case there are two tags within one sentence. Isn't that a bit of a tag overkill? --93.212.236.194 (talk) 08:54, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Well documented 

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