Talk:Genesis Nomad

message: I took out the part about the nomad being revolutionary because it played console games, since the TurboExpress always did this, and is years older. I also took out the part about extended color palette via hold and modify, since this probably didn't work on an LCD screen (correct me if I'm wrong, but until there's a preponderance of evidence, I'm assuming it can't.) I also corrected some spelling.
I tried to look up the TI 76480 sound chip and I couldn't find it. I suspect this is a typo and the chip is the same as the one in the Megadrive, i.e. the SN76489. It this is wrong, please revert the change.--Malcohol 17:58, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Yo.

message: Kevin Horton had a project where he was trying to develop a portable NES, he used the Sega Nomad as the testing ground for the graphics screen. The name of this project was Portendo. Should we put trivia on this article? --SuperDude 21:41, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Just because someone modifies his VW Beetle with another engine doesn't qualify it for a mention in Wikipedia. IMHO the same goes for a modified (read: raped) Nomad. --32X 00:09, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia on the Nomad 

message: I've removed the sales numver (9 million units) since no source is mentioned _and_ that would mean that  about every fifth Mega Drive / Genesis system is a Nomad. Even the Game Gear has "only" been sold between 3 and 8 million times. After checking the other user changes it looks he's a sega fan boy who gloryfies Sega consoles by adding faked sales figures. While the first thing isn't bad, the second one is. You might compare the activities of the IP 69.153.100.147 with 69.150.41.38's. See also Talk:Sega Mega Drive. --32X 00:56, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sales number 

message: How does one properly reference personal experience? ```` —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lostinlodos (talk • contribs) 11:02, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wholeheartedly agree, my cousin own(s/ed) one (not sure of its current situation) and I was amazed that while he was playing what ever on his genesis I could be playing sonic elsewhere not waiting for him to get off. Yes it was heavy, to me it weighed about the same as an N64. The battery life was a bother since he had the rechargeable batteries and added about a pound or two to the weight.Oruko 14:55, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to reference personal experience  

message: Much softer, and much better. However, is there room for a mention, if not short comparison to the other systems that were in it's class (as opposed to the Game Boy which was always a generation back, technologically); possibly with a link to the subsection of the generational page.? Lostinlodos (talk) 14:02, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  " softening tone, removing NPOV tag" 

message: I've always been curious, was there ANY thing that a nomad could do that the genesis couldn't (besides be portable)?  Any specific games just for nomad or marketed as being for the nomad.  Or any specific accessories aside from obvious things like battery packs and the TV cord.Mwv2 (talk) 06:34, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomad Specific content 

message: It might be worth mentioning that the hit game Sonic & Knuckles could not be played on it due to the sloping design of the shell of the Nomad and the unique shape of Sonic & Knuckles' cartage. You had to use something like a Game Genie to play on it and with Sonic 3 attached.... it hurt my little kid wrists after a while holding all that top weight.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.208.89.71 (talk) 06:19, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sonic & Knuckles cartridge Issues 

message: I've never heard of, or seen any Japanese Sega Nomads. Hopefully this is corrected as the article is worked on.--SexyKick 23:41, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The sources I've found corroborate this, too.  I think the confusion is that it was based on the Mega Jet, which was Japan-only.  We're ready to go.  Red Phoenix build the future...remember the past... 01:39, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Nomad was only released in North America 

message: See Talk:Sega_Genesis#Mega_Jet czar ♔ 00:20, 13 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mega Jet image 

message: As explained earlier in the thread "Genesis sales revised", it is extraordinarily improbable that a handheld version of the Genesis that was released only in North America sold one million units before being discontinued after a mere five months on the market. Snow's GamePro article is full of demonstrable errors and is based exclusively on citogenesis/Wikipedia; as such, it has been a great source of misinformation that several editors (not just myself) concur should be purged. For example, see Indrian's comments in the same thread:
*"That GamePro source is an unmitigated disaster of lies and misinformation that is known to have inaccurate 3DO, Dreamcast, Sega CD, and 32x figures at the very least. It should absolutely not be used as a source for anything (and yes, I realize the handheld article is technically a different article from the console piece, but they are a pair written by the same author and published on the same day, so they are one body of work for these purposes). I've said it before and I will say it again, an article that is demonstrably full of errors and poor research is unreliable on its face regardless of whether the larger source is generally accounted as reliable."
In sum, yes, my description of Snow's article as "dangerously worthless" is quite apt; it is, in fact, worse than nothing.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 20:43, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The Nomad was sold in stores for years after 1995 though. The article says "Discontinued 1999" which comes from Retro Gamer magazine. I bought mine in 1998 direct from Sega...but regardless, this can be explained in the article to help prevent future people from writing in 1 million. Have it say "Unknown"[n1] and in a note, an explanation sourced to the GamePro article and text about how the vast majority of its sales information was wrong .--SexyKick 19:12, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: This brings us back to my comment in the aforementioned thread of November 19, 2015: "I am operating on the assumption that Sega stopped manufacturing Nomad after March 1996, when they decided to focus on the Saturn. The main Sega Nomad article suggests otherwise, but I don't trust it without having seen the source." Suffice it to say, while I do not claim any personal expertise on this matter, very knowledgeable individuals have told me that Sega only manufactured Nomad for five months, and I am not sure I would trust Retro Gamer over them. If you were able to order a Nomad from Sega in 1998, that does not necessarily mean it was still in stores, or that it was still being manufactured at the time. More to the point, from my position as an armchair analyst it's not obvious why Sega would have continued manufacturing the Nomad after it had stopped manufacturing the Genesis. In the end, however, this digression is of little utility to the larger point: Purging Snow does not require that I prove a negative.TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 22:59, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it doesn't require that. And personally I do believe it was discontinued in 1997 with the Genesis. Which means in 1998 it wouldn't be surprising to still see some in stores. My main point is that we should explain away the Gamepro article within this article so people won't add the information back and future writers may do some actual research into the matter instead of going with 1 million over and over, likely sourcing back to Gamepro.--SexyKick 12:41, 19 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Blake Snow's infamous ''GamePro'' article is dangerously worthless 

message: Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that :File:Sega-Nomad-Front.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on February 23, 2018. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2018-02-23. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 10:42, 5 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:Sega-Nomad-Front.jpg]] to appear as POTD soon 

message: Is not the sega nomad among the hybrid consoles if you can also play on a TV with it? Maxeto0910 (talk) 04:38, 1 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically the Neo Geo X predates the Switch in terms of being marketed as a "Hybrid console". I'm not sure if the Genesis Nomad received such a designation while it was on the market though. --Mbrickn (talk) 04:22, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hybrid console or handheld game console? 

message: Are there sales figures that show how many Nomads were sold? I'd assume it would be about 2 million. MightyArms (talk) 00:52, 2 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  How many of these were produced? 

message: The infobox for this console lists it as a fourth generation console, the category it is in listed it as a fifth generation console. Console generations are arbitrary categories, but internal consistency is always a good thing. If it's any difference, the device is already listed under the Fifth generation of video game consoles page.
--Mbrickn (talk) 04:20, 19 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Right you are. I don't have a real opinion on how the Nomad should be categorized in terms of generation, and recent discussions at WikiProject Video Games suggest that Wikipedia may soon be eliminating generational categorization for handhelds altogether (since reliable sources almost never describe handhelds as belonging to a generation, and certainly not as sharing a generation with home consoles), but for consistency's sake I'll go ahead and edit the article to say fifth generation. If anyone wants to challenge that designation, please post your reasoning here.--Martin IIIa (talk) 14:30, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Generation discrepancy 

message: Odd that this was chosen singly as a mod to include in the article. There are LED-backlit screen replacements (both composite-driven and LCDDRV RGB-driven), glass screen covers and upgraded speakers, and the Mobius Strip Technologies Triple Bypass kit which improves RGB video and audio amplification quality, as well as allowing for full Master System and Sega CD game compatibility with full expansion sound functionality (Yamaha YM2413, Ricoh RF5C164 and "CD" - WAV - audio) portably on the handheld when using an FPGA flash cart like the Krikzz Mega Everdrive Pro or Terraonion MegaSD. 80.229.16.57 (talk) 19:33, 31 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:   "In 2017 a mod was developed to allow the Nomad to charge power using USB devices." 

message: There is a problem with the "However, due to the smaller screen size it suffers from screen blurring, particularly during fast scrolling." sentence, because it's actually not confirmed by the source. The source says the following verbatim: "The graphics on the Nomad are much like the Genesis. The concern with most handhelds though is blurring. From what EGM has seen of the Nomad so far has been perfect as far as resolution goes with little blurring on most games but more blurring on fast side-scrollers like Sonic. Some EGM editors compare the quality of the screen to the Turbo Express handheld of long ago".
As you can see, there's no reference to screen size, and the issue is actually with display motion blur. Considering that it's also basically a review, this should be moved into the "Reception and legacy" section and reworded as "However, in their first 1996 review, reviewers from Electronics Gaming Monthly noted that the screen suffers from display motion blur, particularly during fast scrolling". --Sleeps-Darkly (talk) 09:09, 18 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: No objections, so update is implemented now. - Sleeps-Darkly (talk) 21:59, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm a bit late to the party, but I thought it might be appreciated if the editor who first added the statement about screen blurring to the article (me) said for the record that the edit proposed here makes perfect sense to me. Martin IIIa (talk) 01:32, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screen blurring