Talk:S. J. Perelman

message: aShouldn't the article be titled "S. J. Perelman" and the current title be a redirect? If I knew how to switch them, I would.
: I agree. "Sidney Joseph Perelman" is not a good title for the article. He was almost always refered to in print as "S. J. Perelman". I'll take care of switching them, and since you expressed a willingness to do something, how about helping take care of the articles in "what links here" to avoid the redirect?  Cheers, -- Infrogmation 05:10, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)
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message: "Sid's delivery was much like his writing-- cutting, precise, sprinkled with Yiddishisms and jargon from a dozen professions. He was erudite and well read, especially in classic and contemporary fiction. He told us he had started out to be a novelist, another James Joyce, his hero ("the great comic writer of our time). It was from Joyce that he took his love of language--wordplay, metaphor, irony, parody, paradox, symbol, free association, the whole figurative arsenal. But when he failed early on to write an American Ulysses, he quit fiction for satire, starting first as a cartoonist (contributing one classic caption to cartoon lore: "I've got Bright's disease and he's got mine") and moving on to the sketch form (he liked to call these pieces feullitons)."
This is a far cry from saying that he wrote in "stream of consciousness" mode -- nothing could be further from the truth.Hayford Peirce 04:13, 2 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'm glad you liked the result -- I shouldn't have been so brusque with my original comments, I suppose.  I was just so staggered to see the comparison with Joyce (whom I *hated* and found totally unreadable back in the years when I was devouring Perelman and, like Woody Allen, trying to write like him) that my eyes nearly fell out and I could hardly contain myself.  Anyway, I doubt that I would have felt impelled to flesh out the article unless that comment had been there.  As I said in the article, Perelman is a very difficult writer to characterise -- he's really very sui generis.... 
There was one characteristic thing he did that I wanted to put in the article but I couldn't find a concrete example of it.  He would take a common word or phrase and change its meaning completely in the context of what he was writing.  For instance: "Picking up the heavy garment and throwing it over my shoulders, I walked out in a huff."  That's something I came up with in emulation of S.J. when I was about 15 -- I thought at the time that all of his skits had at least one example like this but now I'm unable to find any.... Best, Hayford Peirce 05:30, 5 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: the purported James Joyce connection

message: Robert Benchley's son Peter, you probably know, wrote the bestseller Jaws. 
Around the time the movie came out, I hung out at a bar where a bartender named Adam would constantly complain about what a hack Peter Benchley was, that he couldn't write his way out of a paper bag...this guy went on and on  bellyaching about Peter Benchley. 
I asked a friend who introduced me to the bar, what is Adam's problem with Peter Benchley?
Adam's full name was Adam Perelman -- he was an aspiring writer. His father was S.J. Perelman.
: Peter Benchley was the son of Robert_Benchley, humorist, theatre critic, actor. Adam might have resented the fact that Peter had managed to become a writer, while he had failed to follow in his father's footsteps. Few sons of famous fathers can manage the footsteps thing. Look at Julian Lennon, Auberon Waugh, Martin Amis, angry young men all. 65.92.225.232 (talk) 12:22, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  an Adam Perelman story 

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thread_title:  Copyright problem 

message: 'Conversations With S. J. Perelman' is not by Perelman himself, as recorded here, it is an anthology edited by Teicholz.
'Don't Tread On Me', the collection of Perelman's letters edited by Prudence Crowther, ought to be added to the bibio. I'd do it, but I'm away from my desk, and writing this, with difficulty, on a mobile device. 65.92.225.232 (talk) 12:13, 15 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Works about Perelman