Talk:Ibn Battuta

message: Ibn Battuta fans do know about massive Chinese "Junk (ship)" located at the Indian ports, also that the "Champa people" were inspired by "Vijayanagar Kingdom" and religion. 137.59.221.36 (talk) 11:07, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Junk (ship) 

message: Praise for "Ottoman Turk" is very outrageous because Sultan Orhan was unknown warlord compared to the well known rulers of "Constantinople".
Ibn Battuta works are being manipulated in the wrong manner! 137.59.221.36 (talk) 11:09, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orhan? 

message: Ibn Battuta described precisely the character and behaviour and lifestyle of "Ozbeg Khan of the Golden Horde" in what is known as Eurasia.
Ibn Battuta description of that character should be commended in this article. 137.59.221.36 (talk) 20:12, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Khan of the Golden Horde 

message: While the two place names may not look similar in English spelling, in Thai, Tenasserim is pronounced more like "Da-now-si", so perhaps it's that? Also in "A History of Ayutthaya: Siam in the Early Modern World", the city-state of Ayutthaya, prior to it's formal date of foundation in 1351 CE, was more similar to its Maritime Southeast Asian neighbors, who were raiding down the Malay Peninsula at this time, whose customs were described by Fei Shin, a scribe on Zheng He's voyages in the early 15th century,"The customs are violent and fierce: they particularly respect bravery. They invade and despoil neighboring regions … and are practiced and skillful at fighting on water." (Baker, Phongpaichit, 49) I don't believe, however, that Ayutthaya did subjugate the region until the 16th century. 
Women also played an integral part in Ayutthaya society, often becoming the leaders of commoner households and heads of society while the men were off being conscripted to fight in wars or perform corvee labor for the king/state, so that kind of negates the idea that women can't be in charge on the mainland, even less so on the Malay peninsula. 
Tennasserim was also named on the De Fauro map in c. 1459, one of the earliest maps that payed attention to detail to Mainland Southeast Asia Yourlocallordandsavior (talk) 00:11, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tennasserim as another possible candidate for "Tawalisi"? 

message: please make one on it too 182.68.26.13 (talk) 04:32, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  korean medival period 

message: The following two comments were copied from 's talk page?
As I previously mentioned, describing him as "Moroccan" is obviously anachronistic. If sources is all you're after, you could have asked for them (I added a couple of reliable sources to prevent further disruption). M.Bitton (talk) 19:08, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: What part of what I said or the reliable sources that were added do you disagree with? M.Bitton (talk) 19:20, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

text: The sources that you added do not add anything in substance, they just say that he was Maghrebi which he obviously was just like Francisco Pizarro was southern european but also Spanish, Maghrebi just like Southern European refers to a group of people from a region made up of various countries and nationalities, you are not explaining here why it is "anachronistic" , throwing a random word out out of nowhere without explanation and reverting edits is very problematic.. HamHammm (talk) 19:41, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't see the problem with Maghrebi, this is far back in history and accurate borders to difficult. --StellarNerd (talk) 19:46, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Various academic papers from various Universities  and institutions that I just posted seem do disagree with you assertion.  HamHammm (talk) 22:16, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

text: Your edit warring and unwillingness to communicate (despite the comments left on your talk page and the ping from here) is what's problematic. There  was no such thing as "Moroccan", "Algerian", Tunisian" or a concept of nationality back then (other than belonging to the Maghreb, as opposed to the Mashreq, and being Muslims, Jews, Christians, etc.). M.Bitton (talk) 20:13, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I already answered you, re-read my first comment here. HamHammm (talk) 22:26, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You are now edit warring against myself and  and replacing scholarly sources about the subject with anything that you can find in order to push a POV. M.Bitton (talk) 22:30, 20 June 2022 (UTC)

text:  The key point here is striking a balance, you can't just search for sources saying what you want them to say, you need to search for sources on ethnicity and then stick to what the majority of them say. --StellarNerd (talk) 05:10, 21 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  June 2022 

message: Vasco de gama's article says that he was Portuguese not Iberian, the same why in this article we should be more specific and say He was a Moroccan explorer, since He was born in Tangier (Morocco), his origins are moroccan, and he died in Marrakesh (Morocco) in the marinid era. Oualid qobebi (talk) 20:46, 31 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: exactly idk why those people trying to change the fact that he is Moroccan Ouneyoul (talk) 12:12, 11 August 2023 (UTC)

text: This page stated for most of its existence that he is Moroccan but we all know who changed that recently. 2A02:8108:2C3F:970C:297C:88E0:757E:2222 (talk) 19:33, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ibn battuta is Moroccan 

message: Why are u pissed because he is Moroccan and u claim that he is magrebian he is magrebian yeah but Moroccan to be exact 105.69.214.225 (talk) 11:57, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I certainly see no reason to treat him differently from his contemporaries (by dismissing the blatant anachronism in the name of some BS nationalism). M.Bitton (talk) 12:02, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: He is Moroccan and always will be moroccan born in tangier and Dead in Marrakech if you have any personal problem with Morocco don't bring it here Ouneyoul (talk) 12:10, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The references state Maghrebi. Wikipedia relies on what reliable sources state. Hope this helps, Knitsey (talk) 12:34, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ibn battuta was Moroccan stop writing maghrebian 

message: Ibn battouta is moroccan first. he is born in tanger and he is part of a berber moroccan tribe. Change “maghrébi” to moroccan. 138.99.236.74 (talk) 16:29, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  ibn battouta is moroccan !