Talk:Key System

message: I've never heard it called "Key Rail System." Usually it is called the "Key System." Should the name be changed? Aaronrp 00:32, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Key Rail System?

message: What South American country were the cars shipped to? - Leonard G. 03:24, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Argentina.  Buenos Aires.  Tmangray 15:31, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Shipped to?

message: Thanks for the description.  I think it was all pretty true -- what were the opinionated lines?   I can't take an East Bay survey but my family certainly didn't know about Key Systems and I've endured endless griping about lack of a convenient urban rail system (bart is a superhighway).
The streetcar conspiracy page has a lot of details about the various legalities, I guess there was too much here, but a summary is alright as long as its relevant to key, no?
--155.91.19.73 20:40, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  What opinions? 

message: I am copying some good discussion details from the user talk page to here, so they don't get lost. These discussed points below would add valuable clarification within the article, and even better with inline notations of the mentioned references. Steven Russell 19:42, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can do both.  (1) the term "mole" was used to refer to the combined causeway and pier of the Key System, and also of the similar structures of the SP (Alameda and Oakland) and the Western Pacific; i.e. the Key Route Pier was actually only the wood structure which extended out from the end of the stone and dirt causeway; I have a 1938 Standard Oil map which does not use the name "pier" at all but simply "Key System Mole"; (2) Yerba Buena Avenue---so named because Yerba Buena Island is visible directly in line with it---is approximately one block south of 40th; it does appear on maps of the time, as well as now; take a look at Harre Demoro's 2 vol. work on the Key System which includes maps, and it will all become clear; (3) the Key line down 40th was only the C line where 40th crosses Shafter; the E and F lines joined the C on 40th near Market Street; the lines then went down 40th to a gore point with Yerba Buena where they turned to run in a straight line to the mole; the Santa Fe's main Oakland depot was located at 40th and San Pablo; 40th actually terminated (for auto traffic) at San Pablo; it was extended relatively recently as the old rail yards of the Key and Santa Fe were developed. Tmangray 00:16, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much. That clarifies a lot, and if you also make the notes to the article, that would also clarify greatly. It would also help if you note things like your 1938 Standard Oil map and Harre Demoro's 2 vol. in the refs. I now see Yerba Buena Ave. on the modern map, which runs diagonally from 40th down to Adeline for only a half block. So the rest of Yerba Buena Ave. must have run through what is now the Emery Bay shopping center at the MacArthur Maze, a block south of 40th, as you say. Steven Russell 18:35, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Route 40th St. to Key Route Pier 

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message: : ... in the cities of Oakland, Berkeley, Alameda, Emeryville, Piedmont, San Leandro, Richmond, Albany and El Cerrito ...
Any objection to listing them north-to-south (Richmond, El Cerrito, Albany, Berkeley, Emeryville, Oakland, Piedmont, Alameda, San Leandro) or south-to-north?  That makes it easier (at least for me) to visualize the affected area, and be sure that there are no gaps. —Tamfang (talk) 16:28, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  list of cities 

message: *Key Hotel, Emeryville, CA
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thread_title: Key Hotel Emeryville, CA

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