Talk:Memphis, Egypt

message: There is a claim that memphis was capital until 1300 B.C. 
What is the basis for this claim? Memphis ceased to be capital with the end of the old kingdom in about 2200. After the first intermediate period, the capitals changed to hieracontopolis and thebes, then to thebes alone, then to avaris, then back to thebes, and then 1300 rolled about. Thanatosimii 02:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capital 

message: How is it that the First Dynasty city of Memphis is described as being built by Menes of Tanis, when the Wikipedia article on Tanis states that that city was built in the Twentieth Dynasty?  Another city of the same name?
--Ziusudra 12:05, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Menes of Tanis? 

message: External link or links have recently been deleted by User:Calton as "horrible Tripod pages which add little information, are full of ads, and fail WP:EL standards." No better external links were substituted. Readers may like to judge these deleted links for themselves, by opening Page history. --Wetman 15:00, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleted external links

message: there is also a memphis tenessee which is in the united states.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.130.90.216 (talk) 00:55, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeh, so? I don't see how that should have any mention in this article. --Sauronjim (talk) 14:22, 29 June 2009 (UTC)

text: USA-style neglect of history and anything outside USA... СЛУЖБА (talk) 08:48, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: See Philadelphia and Philadelphia, Turkey. Just like Philadelphia, PA Memphis, TN is a city of around 700K people and is a current hub of technology and culture.  Much like Philadelphia, Turkey; Memphis, Egypt is just a small city in the middle of the desert.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.247.188 (talk) 15:32, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other names 

message: Memphis currently redirects here, despite the Memphis, TN article saying Memphis redirects to that page. I have to assume that one of the many people who are upset about Wikipedia's policy of having Memphis redirect to Memphis, TN, changed it without knowledge of the administrators, because I cannot find any discussion where it was agreed to move it. Someone should probably change the redirect so it will go to Memphis, TN again, as that seems to be the official Wikipedia decision.J'onn J'onzz (talk) 16:36, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect 

message: Needs some "fair" explanation of weight, construction, transportation...--81.39.104.252 (talk) 17:02, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colosus 

message: The use of "Memphis" is under discussion, see Talk:Memphis (disambiguation)#Requested move 4 September 2018. Crouch, Swale (talk)  10:05, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Memphis" 

message: I noticed that the infobox section with the native name of Memphis says "menes". Indeed, king Menes founded the city, but was it named after him? Plus, this name is not mentioned in the main article.
89.210.99.172 (talk) 21:00, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: About the native name of Memphis given on the infobox

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: not moved per WP:SNOW.   Nohomersryan (talk) 21:29, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Stop voting for your own proposal. -- Calidum 14:43, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the WP:RM guidelines, "Nomination already implies that the nominator supports the name change, and nominators should refrain from repeating this recommendation on a separate bulleted line". Paintspot Infez (talk) 16:12, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

text: The common name isn't the same thing as primary topic, although the common name for US cities is to include the state that doesn't mean that they aren't also commonly searched/referred to without the state. Crouch, Swale (talk)  17:52, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

text: I agree it was US-centric to have the redirect from the unqualified name pointing to the Tennessee city but its neutral to have no PT. Crouch, Swale (talk)  17:52, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

text: The discussion above is closed.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
*For the record, User:The Houndsworth has been blocked as a sock per Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/SwissArmyGuy. Thanks. BilCat (talk) 20:23, 14 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 12 October 2020 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: No move, early close per WP:SNOW.  Nothing has changed since this was last proposed.  If a new RM is ever opened, please use a new rationale other than "Egypt was first".   (non-admin closure)  SnowFire (talk) 05:48, 23 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 22 November 2021 

message: The points raised in this 2003 article need to be incorporated in this article:
Specifically:
* The term "Memphis" was used inconsistently in Egyptology for a long time, meaning that care must be taken when using older works
* There is a modern scholarly debate on the location of Memphis, specifically whether it is just Mit Rahina or a wider location stretching all the way to Giza. 
This can be seen best by looking at this map from the Description de l'Égypte, the foundational work of modern Egyptology. It includes two references to Memphis, one in the top left corner "Pyramids of Giza or of Memphis" and one in the bottom center "Ruins of Memphis" at the location of Mit Rahina.
Onceinawhile (talk) 22:16, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Debate over the Location of Memphis 

message: I have removed the two "transliterations" ⲙⲟⲩⲛ ⲛⲟϥⲣⲓ and ϩⲱ ⲭⲟ ⲡⲑⲁϩ which had been added by an IP-address-only user (so, unfortunately, I could not reach out first). These are not transliterations because the hieroglyphs do not indicate vowels. A Coptic transliteration of the first would be ⲙⲛ ⲛϥⲣ. Rather than transliterations, these are projections forward of how the old name of the city may have sounded like in Coptic. This is, however, entirely speculative and could easily be confused with a real attested name by a casual reader. Referencing the Coptic WP incubator is not a good source, in my mind, because, as much as I like it, any neologisms there are still essentially conlangs, not really attested forms (unless they get adopted at some point in the future by a broad consensus outside WP). If I am wrong and these are actually attested in Coptic please make sure to provide a historical source for that before restoring. Thanks! MikuChan39 (talk) 05:51, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transliteration of Egyptian names 

message: W/Memphis 113.199.229.197 (talk) 05:43, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is there "w" in w/Memphis 

message: Sometimes it is implied that Memphis was the capital for dynasties 1-6, other times just for dynasties 3-6 (Old Kingdom only).  Or was it the royal residence for dynasties 1-6, but capital for dynasties 3-6 ?  cheers, Michael C. Price talk 14:19, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Royal Residence = Capital? 

message: Was Memphis the capital during dynasties 1 & 2 ?  i.e. straight after unification?  cheers, Michael C. Price talk 15:49, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Tried to remove all the inconsistencies.  Was capital immediately after unification.  cheers, Michael C. Price talk 16:09, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capital during Dynasties 1 & 2