Talk:Georgia (U.S. state)/Archive 1

message: This is the old state flag.  The new one went into effect this week.  Anyone know where we can find a picture of the new flag? -- Zoe
:New Flag updatedJohnb210 17:59, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag 

message: Hey AllI have added a poll to the Talk:Georgia regarding the moving of Georgia (country) to Georgia. Please go vote, non binding, all the rest. I am simple seeing who out there is still interested in this topic and I don't want to do something preemtively. 24.68.208.246 21:02, 6 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 

message: Can anyone add more to the Seal of Georgia as well as linking it here?? 66.32.240.129 15:09, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Seal of Georgia]] 

message: I want to see if there is any way to change the link to Flag of Georgia to a link to Flag of Georgia (U.S. state). Any way to do this?? 66.245.31.111 00:46, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It wasn't possible with the template. I just substituted the template in my sandbox and edited the code so that it would work. See Help:Template#Subst for more information. WAvegetarian (talk)  (email)   (contribs) 23:50, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag of Georgia link 

message: Why is this even on the Georgia page? I have lived here my entire life and have never heard of this movement, and I live in a county that is approximately 50% African-American. This is a not notable.
That piece of information is completely irrelevant to the article and should be removed. --TheNationalist 22:14, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Republic of New Africa? 

message: On average, there is 1 city government for every 23.6 citizens in Georgia, and this is expected to increase to 1 for every 20 by the year 2008.
I don't understand this sentence, so I removed it pending explanation. It sounds like it says that, if you divide the number of people in Georgia by the number of cities, you get 23.6. Obviously, this makes no sense. According to the List of cities in Georgia, USA article, there are about 400 cities in the state. Even if this list were not exhaustive, for the 23.6 number to be right, there would neeed to be nearly 350,000 cities. I went ahead and cut it out, but I assume it had a purpose once, so I hope someone can clarify or fix it. Thanks, y'all! --SuperNova 08:41, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cities per citizen 

message: In the Demographics section, the five most common ancestries are listed as "African, American, British, German, and Irish."  Now is "American" supposed to be Native American?  Or was African-American inadvertently split in two? I'm a Lover, Not a Fighter 06:05, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Many US residents (especially in the South; 7% nationwide in Census) report their ancestry as "American" because their family has been in the New World for centuries and no immigrant ancestors are immediately known; however, "areas with the largest "American" ancestry populations were mostly settled by English, French, Welsh, Scottish and Irish". For more info, see: Racial demographics of the United States and Maps of American ancestries. Hope this helps! --SuperNova |T|C| 22:09, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Five largest ancestries? 

message: *See Tennessee article for issues.  --Bookofsecrets 15:05, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: "Bookofsecrets" is a loose cannon who claims "southern" is a naughty racist word. His only evidence seems to be a highway map. WATCH OUT GEORGIA~ Rjensen 22:47, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, this was fully hashed out in the Tennessee Talk page, and Rjensen lost the argument there.  Now he's kicking up the same old dust here.  I would encourage folks interested in the details of this discussion to visit Talk:Tennessee.  The short version is that "Southern" is a bit POV for the main body of the article (Southern has very specific, historical connotations) and is not very geographically specific.  Southeastern doesn't have the historical baggage, and it's much more specific.  However, it's all been said already in TN.  Rklawton 23:21, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Changing the term changes the history of the state? Huh. Also, you might want to contact the Census Bureau. --Golbez 00:17, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right that the Census Bureau classifies these states as being in the "South" (which is an official census region) rather than the "Southeast". Personally, though, I don't see that it makes any difference which one is used. Unfortunately Bookofsecrets seems somewhat diplomatically-challenged, so the result has been a multi-article edit war. It would be nice if we could start this discussion over without all the hemming and hawing. I would suggest that rather than demanding a change of region terminology, perhaps it would be more productive to try to persuade respected long-standing editors (such as Rjensen) that a change in terminology might somehow improve things (or at least not hurt anything). It seems to me that if both Bookofsecrets and Rklawton would tone down their rhetoric a bit and attempt to build consensus rather than acting so aggressively, we could all reach an amicable solution. Talking about who "won the argument" is not helpful or civil. Kaldari 01:33, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  WARNING: -Bookofsecrets = editor on loose denies GA was Southern 

message: What is controversial about this article exactly? savidan(talk) (e@) 01:34, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There was one point of controversy, discussed just above this point. However, you're correct that the article as a whole is not controversial. I removed the template, as things seem to have been somewhat resolved. Further discussion, if needed, does not require that the entire article on a US state be listed as "controversial". 68.1.139.172 02:52, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

text: (Sorry, the above point was from me. Must have gotten logged out. --SuperNova |T|C| 02:54, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversial? 

message: Under the title Georgia did not have its beginning as a penal colony, Mary Anne Richardson says that:
:"As time went on, settlers objected to the restrictions, looking to the financial success of the plantation economy of South Carolina. In 1750 the trustees reluctantly allowed slavery. By the time the charter expired in 1752, the trustees had become disillusioned. Georgia became a royal colony in 1755 and remained so for the rest of the colonial period. Georgia began as a "noble experiment," it was not a penal colony. I was horrified to see that Wikipedia includes that mistaken notion."
Is this true, and do we need to make some modifications? - Ta bu shi da yu 23:55, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like the needed changes have been made. I'm glad we've corrected this inaccuracy; thanks for pointing out the letter. (NB: I know the letter writer quite well, so I feel sure she has her facts right. This article as currently written seems to be consistent with the Georgia history I learned.) --SuperNova |T|C| 06:20, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issue? 

message: Just so people know, it's that time of year again, there is a on going discussion on what page should occupy the topic page of Georgia, this doesn't directly effect this page, but I figured someone would at least give people the heads up. It's over at the country talk page: Talk:Georgia (country)PPGMD 21:59, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move Discussion about the Georgia DAB page 

message: A user has been edit-warring for deleting this entry:
* GABBA (Georgia Allman Brothers Band Association), a U.S. non-profit organisation dedicated to preserve the history of the The Allman Brothers Band 
from the disambiguation page Gabba, arguing that it's not notable enough to ever have a Wikipedia article, and thus to be listed as a redlink on a dab page.
You can provide information (positive or negative) about it at the discussion page Talk:Gabba so as to help sort it out. 
Thanks,
-- 62.147.112.36 15:01, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  notability of Georgia Allman Brothers Band Association? 

message: I don't wanna get mixed up in the disambiguation arguments elsewhere, but I would like to know why Georgia (U.S. state) was chosen as the page name over simpler titles (my favorite is Georgia (state)).  I realize that the word state, out of context, can imply sovereign state, but moving this page to Georgia (state) would allow users to reach it directly without using punctuation or capitalization.  This is how the French and Spanish pages do it.  Alternately, if we are concerned about the ambiguity of the word state, we could move the page to Georgia (USA), as the Italian and Portuguese pages do.  (In many other languages, like German, the country and state are spelled differently, allowing for natural disambiguation.)  Either way, the page title would be much more natural than it currently is.  (It may also ease the pain of any future redirect (gasp!) of Georgia (country) to Georgia.  Cheers from Atlanta Alcuin 17:47, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the usual meaning of "state" as "sovereign area" would make Georgia (state) far too ambiguous (though it does currently redirect here, as does (USA)). Maybe Georgia (USA) could work, but I think the present term is most precise. Trust me, I hate typing all those periods and capitals as much as the next guy, but this is perhaps the only name for this article that won't invite another massive dispute. --SuperNova |T|C| 00:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears from WP:NCA#Acronyms as disambiguators that Georgia (US) or Georgia (US state) would be preferred to Georgia (U.S. state) -- JHunterJ 00:16, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Georgia (U.S. state) and not Georgia (state) or Georgia (USA)? 

message: In accordance with the above discussion, I have inserted a table under Major cities and military bases.  Feel free to edit it.  I also think that the micropolitan areas should now be deleted from this section.--Tlmclain  | Talk 05:09, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I love the new table, thanks for adding it. The micropolitan areas should either have a table also like this one, or just be deleted.  --Mjrmtg 14:02, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Table Inserted

message: There is now a proposed WikiProject to deal with the state of Georgia at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Georgia. Any parties interested in taking part in such a project should indicate as much there, so that we can know if there is sufficient interest to create it. Thank you. Badbilltucker 16:53, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New proposed WikiProject 

message: The lows in F are messed up!  Someone should fix it!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.111.143.76 (talk) 13:30, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Error introduced by User:71.111.143.76 has been rolled back.  The numbers on each line are intended to be Fahrenheit followed by Celsius. Bovlb 19:43, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weather chart problem 

message: Someone (Who knows about wikitablesyntax) do something about "Major cities and military bases", something went wrong and now just LOOK at it! It's sidescrolling and utterly unreadable! 68.39.174.238 03:17, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since fixed. Thanks to whomever took care of this. -- Satori Son 16:45, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help!! 

message: *Geography should be divided into sections: Geology and terrain, Flora and fauna, Climate and Protected lands. All sections should have daughter articles.
*Major cities and military bases should be split. A Cities and towns section should be created perhaps another section for Military bases. Minnesota makes no mention of military bases. 
*Economy should be divided into Industry and commerce (Actually Agriculture and industry for right now), Energy use and production and State taxes. Military bases are mentioned here as well (perhaps they belong here).
*A daughter article for Transportation in Georgia (U.S. state) should be created and summarized here.
*Our section on Law and government appears to be better than Minnesota's. Still, the section should be given a good copy-edit and proper cites.
*A section on Culture with subsections: Fine and performing arts, Literature, Popular Culture. Minnesota has a section on entertainment, but I would group this under Fine and performing arts. Perhaps a section on Film as well to note those works filmed in the state.
*Section on Health. Describe the health care infrastructure.
*Education should be prosified with links to List of colleges and universities in Georgia (U.S. state), List of high schools in Georgia and List of school districts in Georgia (U.S. state).
*Section on Media, include TV, radio, newspapers and periodicals.
*Sports and recreation section with daughter article on Sports in Georgia.
*Section on State insignia (State bird, flower, tree etc.)
Reb 11:56, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article edits and additions 

message: I notice the term 'royal colony' has been used. From an Australian perspective this sounds odd. In Australia a colony started or supported by the British Govt would be called a crown colony. This implies that the authority of the colony is in the name of the crown (the Govt). Royal colony sounds like the king or queen owns the colony themselves. The Govt of Britain exercises its power under the name of the crown (queen or king of England). Any ideas? Ozdaren 09:12, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're probably right that it needs to be changed, Ozdaren. In checking the Province of Georgia article it mentions that Georgia changed from a proprietary colony to a crown colony. 11:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That looks a lot better. Ozdaren 15:11, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Royal colony - crown colony? 

message: In the Cities section of the article there are three images, two of Atlanta and one of Macon. All three are great images, but are three needed? I think the section would be fine with just one image. Opinions? Reb 22:05, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cities Images 

message: Does anyone know how Georgia was named? Osillaj 17:06, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Georgia was named for England's King George II who granted the charter for the colony in 1732. AUTiger » talk 18:04, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming of Georgia 

message: I thought the saying goes that Waycross is the "biggest city in the biggest county in the biggest state east of the Mississippi (River)". But on Wikipedia, Georgia is listed as 24th in size and Florida is listed as 22nd in size so the saying isn't true.  Are these state sizes correct? --Mjrmtg 01:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Depends whether water is included in calculating the area. Qqqqqq (talk) 17:01, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Waycross, Georgia 

message: The reference to "Southern Region" in the first sentence may be a bit confusing to non-Americans.  To a foreigner reading this article, "southern region" would put Georgia in the same zone as Arizona and New Mexico.  "Southern Region" is a geo-political term refering to the former north/south division of the U.S.  However, it makes more sense to use a geographic reference in the article's first sentence, for example:  "Georgia (IPA: /ˈdʒɔːɹ.dʒə/) is a state in the southeastern region of the United States of America..."  The whole north/south "southern region" CSA matter rates its own paragraph in the lead.  Other geography-related articles list their subjects geographic position in the first sentence, so this case really stands out.  Thoughts? Rklawton 14:34, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think "xyz region" an overly verbose and awkward construction, period.  How about simply "Georgia is a state in the southeastern United States of America..."?  AUTiger » talk 15:17, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, Autiger. However, instead of southeastern United States of America why not Southeastern United States?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by JohnnyReb1977 (talk • contribs) 20:55, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent! Rklawton 20:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Sure; fine with me. AUTiger » talk 21:27, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Southern Region 

message: I have added the fact that Georgia has had bad droughts 2 years in a row. I am a Georgian, so I know what I am talking about.
:I read that reputable scientists saying these droughts are a predicted evidence of Global Warming, and that continued Global Warming will make them continually worse, someone should hunt this down and add it to the article too. Torquemama007 01:57, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First, the drought statement needs a releiable source (if one isn't there already), else it is just Original research. Second, the "Global Warming" controversy should be kept out of the article, as it is NOT a universally-accepted concept, especially in regard to the drought in GA. Some climatoligists attribute the dorought to the absence of active hurricane seasons in 2006 and 07. By the way, these same Global warming scientists predicted bad hurrican seasons to continue after the 2005 season, and they have been wrong for to years now. So, if you do insist on including the claims that GLobal warming has caused/affected the drought, be sure to include statements and sources on the opposing views. - BillCJ 02:04, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Droughts 

message: Hey everyone, I thought some of you might be interested in a poll that's currently underway over a proposal to move Georgia.  The discussion is taking place here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Georgia#Updated_Poll  You can see the archived discussion of a previous poll on that issue here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Georgia/Archive1#Poll
Helvetica 20:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to move [[Georgia]] 

message: I've been wondering about something and going back and forth over whether I should mention it or not; I finally decided I needed to. Under the Confederate subsection in the History section is a section entitled Struggles for educational equality. It was added on the 20th of November of last year by a DocStudent. Does this look like original research to anyone else? If not, should it still be where it is? That history section is getting rather long. I would think the information would be wonderful in an Education in Georgia (U.S. state) article if it can be verified. Consensus? Reb (talk) 22:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research? 

message: I'm confused, what's the point of linking to an article that is a list of school and then providing an incomplete copy of the same list right underneath said link? -- Jelly Soup (talk) 01:37, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea.  I just did it.--JKeene (talk) 17:38, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education 

message: The first line of the second paragraph is a shameless plug (and probably vandalism) for the band The Black Crowes, and should be removed. Anyone opposed?
Diyforlife (talk) 06:54, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music 

message: The image :Image:Atlanta Falcons helmet rightface.png is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here.  In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page.  Please check
:* That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
:* That this article is linked to from the image description page.
This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --09:18, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image copyright problem with Image:Atlanta Falcons helmet rightface.png 

message: I first removed obvious vandalism, then reverted a series of edits which appear to be spam advertising.  The magazine being (probably) advertised is a redlink to a magazine which does not appear, based on a hasty Google search, to be especially notable.  If the Post magazine is notable and deserves a place in the article, consider finding a better place for it – the former location appears to violate WP:UNDUE. Aylad ['ɑɪlæd] 17:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  two revisions 

message: I removed the shameless plug for the band the Black Crowes. It's certainly non-encyclopedic content and has no place here.
Diyforlife (talk) 01:20, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small revision under 'music' 

message: Could someone more comfortable with cite web go into citation #14 and fix it, please? The reference section is a complete mess and I think that one cite is the culprit. Thanks. Reb (talk) 21:49, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citing issue 

message: My section about russia's invasion is consistently being censored. 
I keep adding:
===Invasion By Russia===
On August 7, 2008 Georgian forces entered South Ossetia, which is situated on the border with Russia, in an attempt to bring the region under government control. On August 8, while the world media was almost entirely focused on the opening ceremony of the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, Russian military forces retaliated by entering South Ossetia and allegedly launching a series of airstrikes against Georgian forces (and, according to Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili, civilian targets outside of the actual conflict zone). Russia has denied doing this. Due to the intensive war activity in South Ossetia there are controversial reports about the possible casualties on both sides, targets which have fallen under aerial attacks, troop movements and the current front line between the Georgian and Russian-Ossetian combat groupings.
Please stop reverting it.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.245.186.56 (talk • contribs) 2008-08-11T18:42:33
:You want to edit Georgia (country), not the U.S state. — Kagee 18:51, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invasion by russia 

message: On August 7, 2008 Georgian forces entered South Ossetia, which is situated on the border with Russia, in an attempt to bring the region under government control. On August 8, while the world media was almost entirely focused on the opening ceremony of the 2008 Summer Olympics in Beijing, Russian military forces retaliated by entering South Ossetia and allegedly launching a series of airstrikes against Georgian forces (and, according to Georgian president Mikheil Saakashvili, civilian targets outside of the actual conflict zone). Russia has denied doing this. Due to the intensive war activity in South Ossetia there are controversial reports about the possible casualties on both sides, targets which have fallen under aerial attacks, troop movements and the current front line between the Georgian and Russian-Ossetian combat groupings.
Please stop reverting it.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.245.186.56 (talk • contribs) 2008-08-11T18:42:33
:You want to edit Georgia (country), not the U.S state. — Kagee 18:51, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Invasion By Russia

message: Now my contrib in georgia's talk page is being censored!
I added a section about russia's invasion of georgia http://valleywag.com/5034988/google-news-informs-us-that-the-russians-are-invading-the-south, but it constantly is being reverted. Please stop this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.245.186.56 (talk) 18:52, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read my comment. — Kagee 18:54, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

text: (edit conflict) Please go to the Georgia (country) page or its talk page and add it there. Nsaa (talk) 18:57, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invasion by russia 

message: Why is there no coverage whatsoever of the recent Russian invasion of a U.S. state???? The whole western world is outraged over this strategic incursion, yet Wikipedians will hardly lift a finger to do as much as ammending the history section and adding an ongoing events tag. The viability of the free encyclopedia project certainly does not vouch very much for itself, given the total "blackout." 166.217.252.101 (talk) 00:31, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current Events 

message: According to wikipedia, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_area Michigan has more land than Georgia, someone please make this edit on the page.
:Florida and Wisconsin also exceed Georgia's area.  Geologyguy 14:33, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the World Almanac, Michigan's land area is 56,804 sq mi; Georgia's is 57,906. Geologyguy 14:13, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

text: This says  	Georgia: 57,906 sq mi,   Michigan: 56,804 sq mi.  National Geographic Atlas says Georgia 58,876, Michigan 58,216. This says Georgia 57,919, Michigan 56,809. US Census says Georgia 57,919, Michigan 56,809.  So, World Almanac, US Census, National Geographic, and others, OR Wikipedia. You make the call.  Cheers Geologyguy 00:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  wikipedia does not say differently. The anonymous user above is simply misreading the table. Unfortunately, on List_of_U.S._states_by_area the states are ranked first by total area (land + internal_waters). Conventional rankings use land area only, presumably because the practice of including water-area is at best ambiguous and debatable. Fhue (talk) 06:29, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biggest state east of Mississippi in terms of land 

message: This article has been suffering a large amount of nearly non-stop vandalism lately. I think we should semi-protect it for a while.PiccoloNamek (talk) 18:35, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, please. Qqqqqq (talk) 20:56, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protection? 

message: This lists Waycross as having 75,000+ people. No way does it have that many. I was there and the population sign said something like 15,000 people.
99.26.91.2 (talk) 02:29, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Largest Cities 

message: Is it just me or is the History section a little sparse after the end of the Civil War. No mention of Jim Crow laws, no mention of the Civil Rights movement. What's up?--Cdogsimmons (talk) 06:12, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Of course Larry McDonald is not a symbol. But the section is Facts and Symbols. And there are other items in this section that are facts, rather than symbolsBert Schlossberg (talk) 20:36, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That fact seems pretty out of place there. That section is things like the state song and such. Some factoid from history that is in no way official doesn't belong there. Under the History section, perhaps? Qqqqqq (talk) 05:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Can you move that to a section where it makes more sense? I'm going to remove it from the "facts and symbols" section. Qqqqqq (talk) 02:55, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  McDonald 

message: The position of the US gov't is that no state ever successfully seceded from the US (See Texas v. White). Saying any state officially seceded is POV. Some also claim it would be POV to assert a state did NOT secede. Instead, at very least at first mention, it would be appropriate to say they "declared a secession" - which is not in contention.  This has been the way this issue has been dealt with at American Civil War and Confederate States of America - and so it should be dealt with everywhere. The states are also sometimes referred to as "seceding" or "attempting a secession". WP:NPOV requires that wikipedia not take a position on whether any states seceded - regardless of what any sources might say. (Text within quotes is a different matter.) --JimWae (talk) 09:06, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The position of the US gov't is absolutely correct. The secession failed. (See wikt:secede or esp. wikt:secession.) 'Declared a secession' is horrid English, and 'declared their secession' (in reference to a capable political body) means 'seceded.' Taking the legal wrangling at face value, you would simply say they 'revolted' or 'rebeled,' but the language in Texas v. White was (as the dissent notes) always specious: it's not as if Texas seated its representatives during or was welcomed smoothly back into the Union following the war. -LlywelynII (talk) 22:28, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  So you would take the position that Georgia never declared their secession? Torquemama007 (talk) 15:35, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secession - NPOV tag 

message: I was just looking over this article and noticed that there is a new Movie section in the Media portion of the article. Is it really necessary to have a Film section and a Movie section? Reb (talk) 17:59, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Film and Movies 

message: From the archive:
:I don't wanna get mixed up in the disambiguation arguments elsewhere, but I would like to know why Georgia (U.S. state) was chosen as the page name over simpler titles (my favorite is Georgia (state)). I realize that the word state, out of context, can imply sovereign state, but moving this page to Georgia (state) would allow users to reach it directly without using punctuation or capitalization. This is how the French and Spanish pages do it. Alternately, if we are concerned about the ambiguity of the word state, we could move the page to Georgia (USA), as the Italian and Portuguese pages do. (In many other languages, like German, the country and state are spelled differently, allowing for natural disambiguation.) Either way, the page title would be much more natural than it currently is. (It may also ease the pain of any future redirect (gasp!) of Georgia (country) to Georgia. Cheers from Atlanta Alcuin 17:47, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *My favorite is "Georgia", which is how the Georgian WP does it (though in a different script)! - BilCat (talk) 14:39, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the usual meaning of "state" as "sovereign area" would make Georgia (state) far too ambiguous (though it does currently redirect here, as does (USA)). Maybe Georgia (USA) could work, but I think the present term is most precise. Trust me, I hate typing all those periods and capitals as much as the next guy, but this is perhaps the only name for this article that won't invite another massive dispute. --SuperNova |T|C| 00:07, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears from WP:NCA#Acronyms as disambiguators that Georgia (US) or Georgia (US state) would be preferred to Georgia (U.S. state) -- JHunterJ 00:16, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to Georgia (US) 

message: : Not Moved. Station1 (talk) 02:14, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Georgia (U.S. state) → Georgia (US) — I would like to revive this motion that we move Georgia (U.S. state) to Georgia (US). I get it that "U.S. State" is the most logical corollary to "country," but there simply isn't a Georgia Territory we're disambiguating from here that we need something so clunky. (This seems so common sensical. Is the only reason this hasn't happened yet that it would embolden the Georgia (country) > Georgia crowd?) -LlywelynII (talk) 22:38, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move Request 

message: Why do we have a section devoted to notable legislators? First, WP standards now state that all legislators are notable, so this list is inevitably arbitrary if it only includes a few names. Second, why legislators and not governors, businessmen, authors or entertainers? We already have List of people from Georgia (U.S. state) and :Category:People from Georgia (U.S. state). If there's no objection I'll delete the section.   Will Beback  talk   16:38, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Concur with Will Beback. All valid points. Student7 (talk) 13:14, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it a few days ago. - BilCat (talk) 13:24, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Georgia legislators (past and present) 

message: Why is there no mention in the article about the recent controversial (in Georgia, anyway) flag change? 
For those unawares, the flag used to have a Confederate flag prominently displayed as part of its design. During former governor Roy Barnes' term, his administration ordered a complete flag redesign that removed the Confederate emblem and replaced the flag with the one we have today. This was done without vote and was quite a controversial move that inevitably led to Roy Barnes' failure to be elected for a second term. Ultimately, Gov. Sonny Perdue was successful in his run for the governorship in part because he promised to hold a vote over the state's flag; he then reneged on this promise, which surprisingly didn't result in very much backlash.
I would be willing to find a source or two and do a little writeup on this event if I have the support of the "regulars" on this article. Of course, I would prefer someone else do a lookover and give it any editing that needs be done to make it sound encyclopedic, as I'm no English major. If not, no biggie, but I feel given it was a flag redesign -even if we remove all traces of politics surrounding it- it is a historically significant event that needs to be mentioned even if only a blurb. I also feel it is significant in that Gov. Sonny Perdue signed into law a Confederate History Month, while his predecessor Roy Barnes redesigned the flag in an attempt to distance Georgia from its Confederate history (a bizarre race-relations move that backfired). Just throwing it out there. - 72.152.137.55 (talk) 12:08, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Georgia flag 

message: We should change the main page to the State of Georgia
--Gimelthedog (talk) 03:16, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I sort of prefer the current title, as the Republic of Georgia can be a state as well (in the general sense of the term). AlexiusHoratius 03:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to State of Georgia 

message: Was it named after King George of England or George Washington of the USA?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.105.13.53 (talk) 16:38, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the article, it was named after King George. DCEdwards1966 16:45, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, the name predates George Washington.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.44.242 (talk) 13:04, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name Origin 

message: At least two religions seem to have contradictory information. Baptists comprise 24% of the population, Catholics 12%. Okay, but the numbers of Baptists exceed the number of Catholics by a factor of 5 or 6; by percentage there should be twice as many Baptists. Worse, the Baptists may not count children; Catholics do. Something is wrong with one or the other figure. Student7 (talk) 20:56, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: My guess (and I don't know too much about Baptists) would be that some of them are not members of the Southern Baptist Convention, which would lead to higher numbers in the first set of data (including all Baptists) and seemingly fewer in the second (members of the Southern Baptist Convention). I might be wrong, though. Another issue is using two sets of data from two sources (probably from different years) which is going to lead to mismatching. I don't know what to do about it, though. I tried to deal with it awhile ago at South Dakota, with some difficulty due to similar issues with Lutherans. To be honest I've never really liked that "largest churches by number of adherents" or whatever it is. I think when it comes to religious affiliation, self-identification in surveys, while not perfect, is the way to go. AlexiusHoratius 21:07, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Having used some of the US religious data put out by various organizations, some refer to membership while others refer to actual church attendance. I'd have to look at the original data to know for sure, but I would bet that is where the discrepancy comes from. VictorianMutant (talk) 08:33, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree about Southern Baptists and Baptists, but the figures seems reversed. There are a higher percentage of Southern Baptists to Catholics than there are total Baptists to Catholics. So an investigation seems warranted. Student7 (talk) 21:37, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religious figures don't seem to match 

message: :Category:Washington (U.S. state) has been nominated for renaming to Category:Washington (state) with the intent of changing all subcats.  :Category:Georgia (U.S. state) would remain unchanged. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the listing on the Categories for discussion page. Thank you. RevelationDirect (talk) 01:13, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories for discussion nomination for renaming Category:Washington (U.S. state) 

message: One of the points of bar charts is to exhibit, graphically, the difference between the top areas and the smaller ones. Not just a matter of a comma or another number. It is vivid. One editor appeared not to like that and reverted the graph for the metro areas. Atlanta dominates the state. A few others can be compared. The rest are not very important to the state's economy. If we don't want to present these figures, fine. List them without figures. But removing the graph is removing the point IMO. And they display the same everywhere. There are no display differences between devices of which I am aware. Student7 (talk) 12:33, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I added the bars for the metro pops, someone wanted to make the bars obscenely large, so I removed them again.  Characterizing it as me "not liking" it is strange, since I was the one to add them in the first place.  However, if editors insist on making them over 40em wide, we will need to continue this discussion.  Not everyone has a screen that's 1600 pixels wide. Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 02:28, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bar graphs 

message: EOCT: I took these a few years back, and I have never heard anybody pronounce "EOCT" any way other than simply calling out each letter name. Unless there is some sort of standard the DoE has set down to pronounce it "ee-okht," as it says in the article, I move to delete the aside. This strikes me as one person's particular pronunciation, and a strange one at that. (Why the unnecessary, uvular -kh- sound? It makes no sense for American English speakers to say it like this.)Dhicks3 (talk) 21:53, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand what you mean? We've always said "E.O.C.T." for "End of Course Tests". Why would an acronym have a particular way of saying it? Tamer_of_Hope talk 13:50, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  EOCT Acronym Pronunciation 

message: So I was reading the history section of this article and it is as if it has left the reader in bewilderment of what comes next. After thw Civil War period it is as if Georgia had no history to speak of when we all know that is not true. Why is there no research or section dedicated to Reconstruction? Why is there no section on the Civil Right's Movement in Georgia? This history section is a bit of a joke really as there is no post-bellum (after the Civil War) history. Yoganate79 (talk) 20:34, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: All are covered in History of Georgia (U.S. state). Per summary style, three of the history paragraphs here could be axed, in favor of one summary paragraph. Apteva (talk) 17:27, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I tend to agree that maybe we should expand the history summary, at least into the last century. :) What if we created a few subsections and brought that summary up to date a bit? I'd like to see casual readers of this article (almost 100,000 just this month compared to only 4,000 of the main history article) see that Georgia is a relevant state full of history and culture! What do you guys think? Jami430 (talk) 08:07, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cliffhanger 

message: :Georgia (U.S. state) →  – I think the U.S. state of Georgia is more notable per Google search, reaching over 683 million hits as a primary term with the word "state", as to match with Washington (state) in the United States, Acre (state), Paraná (state) and Santa Catarina (state) in Brazil. ApprenticeFan work 03:58, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: *Side Issue  was a dab page; someone changed it to a redirect; that should be reverted if we want to retain our "international credentials."--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk  13:34, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

text: Did you mean to point it to the dab page?--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk  13:35, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

text: --B2C 19:57, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: And I restored it to redirect to the U.S. state. While it is true that in some contexts a state is a synonym for country, I find it highly improbable that anyone searching for "Georgia (state)" is looking for the country. Also consider that every one of the many links to the redirect is for the U.S. state. older ≠ wiser 20:13, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That needs to be discussed at WP:RFD. Apteva (talk) 00:53, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Apteva. The redirect of "Georgia (state)" for to be discuss on WP:RFD. ApprenticeFan work 05:57, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I started a RFD discussion on the targeted redirect. ApprenticeFan work 13:53, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: Can someone restore  to point to Georgia? -- 70.24.250.103 (talk) 08:21, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Did you mean to point it to the dab page?--Jim in Georgia Contribs Talk  13:35, 17 April 2013 (UTC)

text: --B2C 19:57, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: And I restored it to redirect to the U.S. state. While it is true that in some contexts a state is a synonym for country, I find it highly improbable that anyone searching for "Georgia (state)" is looking for the country. Also consider that every one of the many links to the redirect is for the U.S. state. older ≠ wiser 20:13, 17 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That needs to be discussed at WP:RFD. Apteva (talk) 00:53, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Apteva. The redirect of "Georgia (state)" for to be discuss on WP:RFD. ApprenticeFan work 05:57, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I started a RFD discussion on the targeted redirect. ApprenticeFan work 13:53, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Please see the "Washington and Georgia" section of WP:VPR.  I've proposed synchronizing this article's title with Washington (state), either by moving this article to Georgia (state) or by moving the other one to Washington (U.S. state).  I don't care which we do, but I think that it would be good for the two to use the same method of disambiguation.  Nyttend (talk) 16:10, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Georgia (country) which relates to this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you. -- 76.65.128.222 (talk) 05:33, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: "Georgia consists of 159 counties, second only to Texas, with 254.[43] Georgia had 161 counties until the end of 1931, when Milton and Campbell were merged into Fulton."
Math Pop Quiz: If Georgia has 161 counties and two of them merge to form one county, how many counties does Georgia have left? Answer: 160, not 159.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.82.40.211 (talk) 01:19, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Fulton County already existed, which is why it says "Milton and Campbell were merged into Fulton." - BilCat (talk) 01:55, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo? 

message: The article only has one throwaway sentence about Georgia's history before Columbus. Although there are fewer sources available, could this be expanded a little? BenedictSpring (talk) 16:03, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: More on Pre-Columbian cultures?

message: Substituted at 14:50, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: I think every sound spelling you have for states is highly condescending. Do you really think people are unable to properly pronounce Georgia? I'm getting rid of them all.--67.84.73.254 (talk) 21:36, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia has a global audience, not just an American one. I am certain that many readers of this article will be unsure of how to pronounce the name, just as you might appreciate guidance in pronouncing Liège or Łódź. So please don't remove all the pronunciation aids. — ℜob C. alias ALAROB 21:55, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sound spellings