Talk:Somaliland Armed Forces

message: I daresay this article needs a complete overhaul, especially given the ever-fractous nature of the political situation that geographically surrounds Somaliland. I doubt I'm the only person with a cursory interest in the region and leaving out information about such a vital political entity seems ridiculous. The article as it stands is, as far as I can tell, completely made up from rumour and gossip slanted heavily in favour of a militarily powerful Somaliland.
I've tried kick starting the process by getting some reasonable figures regarding the Somaliland military. I found some documents regarding renovation of the military (from 1995) prior to any theoretical reunification which cites the number of military personnel active within Somaliland to be 40,000 at that time, with plans to reduce it to 10,000 when the economic situation dictated. I presume since then the situation has changed dramatically, but it's a better figure than the rather large 150,000 plucked out of thin air. 
Since I'm not prone to editing Wikipedia articles, I'll probably leave the bulk of the editing to others but before I do anything else, I'm going to remove the pictures as a matter of urgency since they're, frankly, silly. The 'USS Somaliland' does not exist and even if it did, it wouldn't have anything to do with the Somaliland military. The entire naval section should be removed for now and replaced when some information is available.
I would not want to be accused of butchering the page, but anything below 'Weaponry' should really be removed due to lack of any evidence, the fact it's drivel, the poor formatting, etc.
Of minor interest is a US government document I found in relation to the missile capabilities of Somaliland referring to their potential possession of coastal defense missiles. Can't find the link again for the life of me. I'll see if Britannica '99 has any useful information. Searching typical US and UK sources hasn't brought up much since the international community does not officially recognise Somaliland. -Rushyo
:I Agree entirely. While I applaud the effort, some of the claims here are unfathomable, such as 'The former Iraqi president Saddam Hussein also gave weapons to Siad Barre. He did this in order to destroy Somaliland'.
:As well as this I did the sums and (I'm using British standard figures for brigade size, I do this because Somaliland is an ex-British colony and I guessed they use British standard) figured out some of the claims here. To have '45 mechanized and infantry brigades' Somaliland would have a grand total of 247500 infranty personal. And this is not counting the various other battalions listed.
:I also point towards the 2005 BBC documentary Holidays in the Danger Zone: Places That Don't Exist, in which the presenter Simon Reeve visits Somaliland. In this documentary the president of Somaliland makes 'the point that he runs the country on just a few million pounds a year'  (and not even enough for the '$43.28 million' military expenditure as described in the article!), which is obviously not enough to ever run a Hawker Hunter (as pictured) without massive budget concessions in other areas, yet alone buy one. As well as this the documentary highlights the fact that Somaliland was still in the process of training it's police force in a riot situation back in 2005 (actually, the article is accurate here as the statement 'United Nations provides assistance towards police force' - while grammatically terrible - is largely correct). I doubt that since then Somaliland has managed to amass an armed forces on the scale described here.
:And finally, Somali has been under a UN Arms Embago. While I realise that Somaliland is a de facto independent nation, it is still included underneath this embargo for technical reasons. This makes the claim that 'their equipment is usually bought from abroad and shipped in to the country' highly unlikely by my book.
:This either needs an urgent re-write or a deletion. I'll look into it. --Evilhairyhamster 17:08, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Overhaul

message: I've removed the unsourced parts. No need to have them as they were too long present. Wikipedia needs to be a reliable encyclopedia. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 15:08, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced 

message: This whole article appears to be Somaliland propaganda. If Somaliland actually has any of the armaments listed here, they are likely rusting in a junk heap somewhere. Maintaining an operational air force, navy, and 60,000-strong mechanized army on $6.8 million per year??? 
Somaliland's "military" likely consists of 5,000-10,000 militiamen and a few dozen technicals. This article should be deleted outright, in my opinion.
Jrule (talk) 19:48, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Especially the naval section. Chamberlian (talk) 16:53, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propaganda 

message: Theyuusuf143, can you please come to the talk page? AcidSnow (talk) 14:41, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: July 2014