Talk:1947 Michigan Wolverines football team

message: I have changed the introduction slightly to include mention of Notre Dame as the AP national champion and that both schools have legitimate claim to the AP crown. I did this because despite the post-bowl ballot, the NCAA still recognizes Notre Dame as the AP winner on its official site. It also fails to mention the acceptance of the post bowl ballot, as if that ballot is the definitive ballot. If it were, then why does the NCAA and other major publications like ESPN, Sports Illustrated, etc, go with the pre-bowl ballot and consistently cite Notre Dame the AP winner? Many publications do cite Michigan and Notre Dame as co-champs, but give the AP to Notre Dame. Now before you misread my intentions, I am not trying to vandalize or cause trouble. But the introduction failed to mention this and as it read before I edited, misled the reader into thinking that the post bowl ballot is the definitive ballot. I know the main article discusses this, but the introduction should reflect the content of the article. Since the main article does a terrific job summarizing the controversy, it should be stated that the AP is still in dispute, not simply that Michigan is the AP title holder. As for the main article, the article tacitly misstates the importance of bowl season. Was the 1947 bowl season similar to the 2008 bowl season in scope? The article also does nothing to explain why a post bowl ballot was cast for this particular season. Was this a regular occurrence? Did the AP switch to after the bowl season to start naming its champion?, or was this season the sole occurrence?   Tedmoseby (talk) 01:35, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have again included mention of ND as the official holder of the 1947 trophy and title in the introduction. To not do so would incorrectly give the impression that there is no controversy around the 1947 title, and in fact Michigan holds the title outright. I also believe some editors are introducing WP:Recentism into the article. Remember that Bowl games were an afterthought back in 1947; the college football bowl season did not hold the importance it does today, and Notre Dame did not participate in bowl games during this era. I have also changed the wording from "special" to "unofficial", because intuitively, this would again be misleading to the casual reader. Special implies a binding poll, unofficial does not. Since there is no mention of Notre Dame being forced by the AP to give the trophy to Michigan, and the NCAA still recognizes ND as the title holder, and Notre Dame still has the trophy, I have included this information in the introduction. To not do so I believe would be academically dishonest. Tedmoseby (talk) 20:54, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Failure to mention controversy or other AP winner in introduction

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