Talk:List of primary state highways in Virginia

message: Please check this out and offer your support and ideas.  I'd really like to see this happen soon.  Virginia Highway Wikiproject Temporary Page (WikiProject Proposals VA Highways).
--MPD01605 05:36, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject

message: *State Route 10: U.S. Route 11, TN to Roanoke; needs details
*State Route 11 needs details
*State Route 12 needs details
*State Route 13: U.S. Route 460, Farmville to Burkeville; U.S. Route 360, Burkeville to Callao; what about the western extension???
*State Route 14: U.S. Route 501, Lynchburg to Buena Vista; needs details
*State Route 18: U.S. Route 501, NC to Lynchburg
*State Route 21: U.S. Route 211, New Market to DC
*State Route 24: U.S. Route 301, NC to Petersburg
*State Route 29: U.S. Route 17, Gloucester Point to Gloucester
*State Route 31: U.S. Route 1, NC to DC
*State Route 32: U.S. Route 15, NC to MD
*State Route 33: U.S. Route 11, Roanoke to WV
*State Route 34: U.S. Route 13, Cape Charles to MD
*State Route 40: U.S. Route 17, NC to Portsmouth
US 17 is confusing; I may finish that later. --NE2 06:37, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: These numbers were eliminated or truncated in 1933 as they were concurrent with U.S. Routes

message: I've seen both these terms used outside Wikipedia. Which one should we be using? --NE2 08:08, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Route or State Route?

message: These numbers were assigned to the Interstates in the late 1950s before the permanent numbers were assigned.
*401 I-95 (03-1957-01 page 23 at Emporia, 10-1957-02 page 1 at Woodbridge (to the south end of Route 350))
*402 I-81 (03-1957-01 page 22 at Buchanan, page 23 at Bristol, 05-1957-01 page 64 at Harrisonburg)
*403 I-64 (03-1957-01 page 24 at Covington/Clifton Forge)
*404 I-64 (05-1957-01 page 53 at Waynesboro, 09-1957-01 at Newport News, 12-1957-01 at Hampton)
*405 I-66 (05-1957-01 page 15 at Fairfax, 08-1957-01 at Centreville)
*406 
*407 I-381 (03-1957-01 page 23 whole route - also included Route 381 to the state line)
*408 I-81??? (01-1959-01 page 2 "Int. Route 130, (Near Natural Bridge)-1.533 Miles N. of Int. Route 130, Rockbridge County" - might not be 408 (hard to read); 03-1955-01 page 9 lists a possibly related project as Route 11)
*409 I-564? (08-1958-01)
*410 
*411 
*412 
*413 I-495 (07-1959-01 page 13 whole route; 03-1958-01 page 50 whole route, lists it as "413 (88)" - other Interstates are for instance "95 (1)" and "66 (55,17)" - 05-1957-01 page 17 calls it "Route 415 (Route 88)" - also see 07-1956-01 page 39 - "Metropolitan Circumferential")
10-1957-02 page 2 also includes the permanent two-digit numbers. 03-1958-01 page 12 lists the renumberings: 64 to 63, 66 to 65, 81 to 69, 85 to 102. 04-1958-01 22-23 lists the numbers again and the spurs (unnumbered). 11-1961-01 page 9 lists the renumbering caused by I-295: 295 to 215.
Another interesting fact - present US 11W in Bristol (State Street to Route 381) was temporarily designated Route 597! (04-1960-01 page 41)
--NE2 00:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Initial numbers for Interstates

message: 04-1923-01 uses only old numbers for three-digit numbers, 05-1923-01 uses both, and 05-1923-02 uses only new numbers. But 06-1923-01 still uses both old and new for x/3x (possibly erroneously). 07-1923-01 uses only 3x.
08-1928-01 uses the old numbers. 08-1928-02 looks like the first to use the new numbers, but it also uses the old ones (without "old route" or anything). This dual usage continues through 01-1929-03; the first few in 1929 have funding tables with old and new columns. Other than that, 02-1929-01 seems to be the first one with only new numbers.
12-1932-01 page 1 talks about how and why they should study renumbering. The first relevant use af "new route" or "old route" seems to be 08-1933-01, but is incomplete. It appears that 10-1933-01 and on uses only new numbers.
10-1940-01 page 8 has a full table of the 1940 renumbering. --NE2 12:36, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Details of the renumberings

message: *4-X (341): "Tasley to Onancock" 03-1923-01 page 8
*7-X (371): "Callao to a point at or near Hague, thence to connect with Route 7 at a point near Templeman's Cross Roads" 11-1922-02 page 6, "Warsaw, Templeman's Cross Roads, The Hague, Callao, Reedsville" 01-1923-01 page 5, "between Warsaw and Heathsville" 03-1923-01 page 9
*7-Y (372): "between Washington's Old Home and Intersection of Route 7" 11-1922-02 page 5
*9-X (30 or 393): "West Point to Richmond either via New Kent C.H. or King William C.H." 11-1922-01 page 4
*10-Y (112): "between Lebanon and Hansonville" 10-1922-01 page 11, 03-1923-02 page 7, page 17, 05-1923-01 page 6
*11-X (111?) "Grundy-Hanger" [Hanger is Keen Mountain?] 03-1923-02 page 12
*11-Z (1141, maybe also 114): "Clintwood toward Fremont" 10-1922-01 page 4
*12-W (103): "Suffolk to the North Carolina Line" 01-1923-01 page 9
*12-X (40): "Deep Creek to the N.C.State Line" 09-1922-01 page 7, 10-1922-01 page 9 [also talks about South Hill - probably a typo for South Mills, NC - or maybe there were two 12-X's? Earlier stuff does talk about South Hill south to NC, which became 122, but 08-1922-01 page 7 says they can't take it over until tolls are removed. 03-1923-01 page 15 says that tolls were still collected, but also calls it Route 122! But 10-1922-01 page 9 refers to a General Jervey, who is City Manager of Portsmouth - why would he care about 122? It has to be a typo for South Mills.], "from Portsmouth City limits to the intersection of the Deep Creek Boulevard" 03-1923-01 page 2
*12-Y (121): "between Franklin and Smith's Ferry" 01-1923-01 page 13, "Franklin to the North Carolina Line" 03-1923-01 page 8, 04-1923-01 page 3
*12-Z (15): "between Hillsville and the North Carolina Line... by way of Fancy Gap" 11-1922-01 page 11
--NE2 04:46, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The following suffixed routes existed before the 1923 renumbering

message: *01-1922-03 28 - not U.S. Highways, but mentions roads crossing the NC line
*07-1925-01 9 mentions tabling an auto trail proposal until the U.S. Highways are designated
*10-1925-02 5 - addition of US 401 and US 501
*12-1925-01 7 - adding state highways (Petersburg to Emporia and US 21)
*04-1926-01 7 - authorized to cooperate with other states
--NE2 00:51, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mentions of U.S. Highway planning

message: Hopefully this will be added to the article if I get it all figured out.
The Governor appointed the Commission under Chapter 403, Acts of 1922.Minutes of the First Meeting of the State Highway Commission Created Under the Acts of 1922, Held July 5, 1922, Richmond, Va., page 1
All acts:
*184 1920 Robertson Act - peaple can advance money for certain projects
*403 1922 - created the new Commission, 2½% clause (04-1926-01 8)
*448 1924
*160 1928
*55 1930 - 1587 miles more per year (09-1930-01 22)
*64 1930 - town takeovers
Town takeovers:
*07-1930-02 12, 09-1930-01 4-5, 12-1930-01 5, 12-1930-03 8, 01-1931-01 7, 02-1931-01 8, 05-1931-01 12, 06-1931-01 12, 08-1931-01 02, 10-1931-01 21, 12-1931-01 3 - possibly more searching for "take over"
--NE2 13:05, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Acts that affected the system

message: I'm playing around with a new format. If it works, I'll replace the one on the article with this one. (moved to the article --NE2 14:46, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the new format.  I was looking at Oklahoma's and it was on my to-do list to table that all up.  Beat me to it. Looks good. --MPD01605 (T / C) 15:06, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Complete list, 1933-present for three-digit numbers

message: Instead of just listing the state when a Virginia state highway ends at a border, what about listing the state and where it ends in Virginia? For example, US 1 begins in North Carolina at Mecklenberg County (or near South Hill) and ends in Washington D.C. at Arlington.Anderfreude 04:19, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's possible.  Are we taking about the lead paragraph?  If so, yeah that's fine.  "Virginina State Route 9 begins at West Virginia State Route 9 on the Jefferson County/Loudoun County border and ends at State Route 7 just east of Leesburg" bad example, but maybe something like "US 15 enters from North Carolina in Mecklenberg County near Clarksville and travels through central Virginia, ending at the Potomac River in Loudoun County and continues into Maryland."  Gramatically speaking, it should be "in" a county and "at" a city... for state routes "begin" and "end" are fine and should note the route that it begins and ends at (a different state's route, even), and yeah the Virginia county it ends in.  Likewise for U.S. and Interstate routes, except they don't necessarily "end"...so "enter" and "leave" could be better I guess.  As long as it makes sense, feel free to make it work however you think it does. :-) --MPD T / C 04:32, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry to be unclear- I meant in the table, so US 1 North Carolina in Mecklenberg Co. Washington D.C. at Arlington. I put it in the table, so if people like it then we'll expand on it, if not then not.Anderfreude 23:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Put slightly different format in the table for space-saving reasons, want to know what you all think.Anderfreude 23:38, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: U.S. 1 in VA looks fine!  Yeah, space was my main concern, but that one looks good! --MPD T / C 06:05, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Highways that end at state borders 

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message: I removed this highway from the current list (the former route remains listed) because I can find absolutely no reference to it anywhere. Anyone have a clue? Famartin (talk) 03:12, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  SR 248