Talk:Kappa Alpha Psi/Archive 1

message: :I am not a member, but I did provide some copyedit and the footnotes so other contributors will know how to cite information.  Here are some other observations that I hesitated to copyedit before mentioning it: 
:*The first paragraph states something like "only one in existence west of App Mountains".  It's important that the contributor mention some of the fraternities which were started and then became defunct, so that this can be verified.  The names need not be in the lead paragraph, but a sentence or paragraph in the main article should be devoted to prove this point.  
:*The paragraph regarding Kappa Kanes contains a lot of flowery language ond hyperbole, like "the most enduring or endearing".  This is an encyclopedia and the text should be a NPOV (neutral point of view).  Also, the sentence appears to be somewhat misleading; How can this be an enduring and traditional symbol if it was only recognized in the 19800s? 
:Also, anyone can update an article on wikipedia.  If you want to control the content, it may be on a personal, chapter or national website. Just trying to help Ccson 06:11, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

message: I'd like to see a list of notable members of Kappa Alpha Psi, such as those on the pages of other NPHC members.  I would do it, but it might be more appropriate for a member to do it for verification purposes.  Also, I'd also like to see an explanation of the term "Nupe" -- unless that is confidential (in that case, please include a statement to that effect). LAGreen 01:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Couple of Suggestions 

message: I deleted the AAPB because it was taking too much space, even though a banner (small) is already placed upon the page.  Bearly541 06:06, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: African-American Portal Banner

message: *Please do not accept edits by Ninja nubian.  He/she is putting irrelavent facts without discussing them on the discussion page.  Bearly541 14:49, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ninja Nubian

message: A link was provided as reference, Ccson a member of Alpha phi Alpha, has made it his business to delete this and place Dubious with it.  What is everyone's opinion?
the talk section for this is a listed above.  Please place all comments in the original section so that no info is lost.  BTW-it's not based on opinion, but factual, verifable, neutral data.  Plus, I'm not saying its not true, but other sites contrdict this.  The kappa reference indicates that "records show" they were first.  What are these records? Ccson 01:53, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  First incorporated Black fraternity 

message: is it alright to place that kappa alpha psi was originally named in honor of alpha kappa nu ?  Mykungfu 08:53, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alpha Kappa Nu 

message: i move to include this video  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1Dz_GZ-MyM Kappa Alpha Psi
Mykungfu 17:58, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Kappa Alpha Psi Video's

message: This article was recently entered on May 5th, 2006.  Previous articles about Kappa Alpha Psi in Wikipedia were deleted for reason for copyright violation. I entered the Kappa Alpha Psi article without violating no copyright issues.  Brothers of Kappa Alpha had updated the website by adding correct footnotes of information regarding the founder and history of the Kappa cane.
Members of Kappa Alpha Psi are welcome to update this article, but please do not violate any copyright rules of Wikipedia by copying and pasting from other Kappa Alpha Psi websites without footnotes. It must be in your own words and correct information regarding Kappa Alpha Psi.  Please do not type anything that is not condoned by the National office and information regarding rituals that is confidental only to Kappa Alpha Psi members are not to be entered.
Yours in the bond
Erayman64 22:37, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Correct procedures to update this article

message: Please refrain from adding comments like "Kappa Alpha Psi is thought to be considered as the greatest of all Afro-American Greek-Letter Fraternal Organizations with members representing and achieving success in every field of endeavers known to man."
Such foolishness will be deleted.
143.166.226.40 14:48, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted the article to the previous one made before the vandal. Alpha Phi Alpha was the first BGL fraternity. Bearly541 03:28, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop adding POV comments! 

message: There's no need to have the references that small, the small option is for longer articles to keep the size down I believe. Either way they're virtually unreadable on a high res computer screen. Quadzilla99 13:19, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the sources are from the history of Kappa alpha psi it is not a widely published book because it is only given to members of the fraternity. The fraternity is not a publicized thing so you just can't find information from anywhere so I was just wondering how the article is not sourced because everything basically has its source referenced to them. the "third party sites" are official regions of the fraternity and are watch by the grand chapter so any info sourced back to them is legit whether the public knows or not. Can you give me an example of what you think is unsourced so I can get a better understanding. (Pop4any1 21:38, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to cite what I can then tell me what needs improving....(Pop4any1 15:28, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: Given that the Wikipedia entry "Nupe" redirects here and that it is listed as a nickname, would an explanation be appropriate for where the term "Nupe" comes from? I presume (as a non member of Kappa Alpha Psi) that it relates to the Phi Nu Pi in the crest, but I don't know if that explanation is correct or, if correct is private to the brothers of Kappa Alpha Psi.Naraht 16:10, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually that is not correct but the term NUPE is used amongst members and non members use it because they here brothers call each other that. The term NUPE is a secret as well as PHI NU PI so they are both kept private. Therefore there is no need to explain there meanings or origins in the article. (Pop4any1 16:33, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nupe redirection here 

message: If possible, please clean up this section: Fraternities_and_sororities#Joining_a_black_fraternity_or_sorority. It reads poorly and its citations should be footnotes instead. I am also unsure of the universality of said processes; if they are fairly common, keep them; if not, delete them. Thank you for your help. —ScouterSig 16:45, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rushing Black Fraternities 

message: The article's progress is going great so far. However, if you want this article featured, here are some suggestions.
#Founders: If you want to make your article featured, make individual biographies of your founders. I am currently doing this with AKA, and yours is much easier since you have ten instead of twenty. :-D
#History: Divide your history section into decades instead of one lump history. For an example, see Alpha Kappa Alpha or Alpha Phi Alpha
#List the books that you used for the article, for further reference (i.e. The History of Kappa Alpha Psi, Divine Nine, Crump's The Story of Kappa Alpha Psi).
If I have more ideas, I will let you know. Miranda 03:05, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment 

message: Kappa Alpha Psi with President Coolidge Miranda 07:36, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free image 

message: Several times now, user EliasTuggle (Talk) has attempted to add a blog entry to the list of links for the Kappa Alpha Psi article. I am removing it (the first time for myself, others have done the same), and reminding everyone that Wikipedia should not be used to wage personal wars or agendas, which it seems is the only reason why that link is being added.
Wikipedia:External links gives good guidelines on the proper inclusion of external links. Especially pertinent to this issue is Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided, particularly #12. Let's be careful about our additions to both content and links, and be sure that we are keeping Wikipedia encyclopedic. As for the link that I am about to remove, perhaps one should try an alternative outlet. :) Thanks, and take care. WDavis1911 (talk) 22:11, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, I agree that it's not appropriate to link, and you've summed my feelings up on the matter pretty well.  I'd honestly say that external links like that fall under the same category as chapter websites.  Justinm1978 (talk) 02:19, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-salient blog links

message: The previous membership section was somewhat confusing to me. It had a sub-section titled "Scroller club" with no information (cited or uncited) about the club. The entire section, in fact, was about the fraternity's stance on hazing. So I renamed it thusly and shifted some of the images and quote boxes around. I removed 
130px|thumb|right|Coat of Arms of the Scroller Club. The colors were green and white.  
from the section simply because it broke up the flow of the section and was yet another reference to something that is not explained.
Where this would be appropriate would be a real "Scroller Club" sub-section that explains to the readers what that is about using cited sources. If someone feels they can create a well-referenced section on that soon then be my guest, otherwise I will attempt to do the same when I get a chance.
Anyway, hopefully it looks better now (not perfect of course) and makes more sense... WDavis1911 (talk) 06:43, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reorganization of membership section

message: I have created a new page from the Chapters section (to reduce the length of the Kappa Alpha Psi page); I have put in proper inline citations and in some cases footnotes.
I also checked it against sources, correcting errors or omissions as best I could, and reorganized and edited it in various ways to make it read with greater continuity.
…Clicking the little triangle things on the new table column headings lets you sort by that column now too. --Whitehorse1 05:26, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split off chapter list 

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thread_title: File:KappaHQ.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion

message: the scrollers club  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.78.55.96 (talk) 17:22, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I think including information about the Scrollers Club would be useful if it can be referenced. (Note this also applies to the other NPHC groups like Omega Psi Phi's Lampados Club)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naraht (talk • contribs) 17:45, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: The Scrollers Club

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