Talk:Louis XIII

message: The article uses two citation practices. Some of the footnotes are full citations; others are short citations. If there are no objections, I will complete the list of references and change the footnotes to the short citation style in use. Best regards, Oldsanfelipe2 (talk) 22:19, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I will object - the fact that you don't know to add new sections at the bottom of the page does not give me confidence. There are at least 2 "short reference" styles in use - lots of "harvbn" or whatever it is, and a little sfn. Which do you propose to use? Let me see if I can guess.  Better move this to its proper place. Johnbod (talk) 22:36, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Your response does not give me confidence that your objections will be relevant, but you still have an opportunity to turn it around. Oldsanfelipe2 (talk) 13:58, 17 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Really, you're going to leave us here in 2005? Johnbod (talk) 00:18, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Inconsistant citation practices

message: Did Louis XIII revoke the Huguenots special privileges or was that done by his son, Louis the XIV "the sun king"...? [It was XIV who persecuted the Huguenots - but Louis XIII (or rather Richelieu) did undermine their military power]2.26.103.123 (talk) 21:29, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This article states "Born at the Château de Fontainebleau, Louis was the eldest child of Henry IV and Marie de' Medici. His father was the first Bourbon king of France, having succeeded his second cousin, Henry III."
The article on Henry IV says Henry IV is the 9th cousin once removed of Henry III. I don't see how both of these can be right. Shadowoftime 4:43, 14 March 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistency 

message: Like many other royalty related articles, this once had a pretty decent portrait on the page that is now missing, PUT IT BACK!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cloud Stryfe (talk • contribs) 
:A diff link would help or even a time period in which this image existed to see what happened to it - I see no other images lost in the edit history at a glance. Also, you can sign your posts by typing ~~~~ after your posts. Cowman109Talk 01:36, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portrait 

message: As a young child, he was often encouraged to fondle himself in public and frequently put his hands up ladies' skirts in the royal court.
There has been inconclusive editing removing and restoring of this comment. At present it sits in the article unsourced. The statement seems unsatisfactory for two reasons:
1. It has tangential relevance to the life of this French king, unless it can be demonstrated that this behaviour somehow affected his later actions. As it stands it could be read as somewhat slanderous on either the young prince, or his parents. It also seems to have some irrelevant titilation value. It may have more value in an article about the history of child sexual abuse. 
2. The source quoted in the discussion page is problematic. More sources, or references to primary sources, would be more helpful. For all we know, the one source article quoted could be relying on sources opposed to Louis XIII who wished to slander him. A reference from a historian or biographer who was working with primary sources and was qualified to assess them would be more helpful.
As it stands, I would think that the first point is reason enough to remove this particular statement. I would appreciate any comments for or against. --Iacobus 00:51, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am against unfounded slander again Louis XIII, I would like his name taken off the list of "historical pederastic couples".--Margrave1206 22:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Louis XIII being a homosexual/bisexual has never been proved, though they were some hints. It is generally believed, however, to have been an insecure person, both personally and sexually. Wedineinheck 11:38, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intention to remove comment about Louis XIII's childhood sexual antics 

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thread_title: Image source problem with Image:King Louis XIII.jpg

message: It was called Chris Edwards "FB"s and I truly do not belive his name was that.So I changed it to Louis XIII of France.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.154.197.42 (talk) 21:25, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The name is wrong! 

message: Which English are we supposed to use, English or American?  There is a mixture of both, such as *favourite* followed three words later by *antagonized*.   Frania W. (talk) 13:26, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: English or American English?

message: Is it necessary to have a separate section for this, stuck between Early life, 1601—1610 & Rule of Marie de' Medici, 1610—1617, when the speech impediment quote is dated 1619?  If such section is necessary, it should be moved down next to that of Sexuality, or, yet better, as Louis XIII did have a speech impediment from early childhood on, have it mentioned in section Early life..., which to this date has no details on his early life, only list of ancestors.   Frania W. (talk) 13:45, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Speech impediment

message: I have often heard that Louis XIII had TB, and that this had a debilitating effect on his life, why is their no discussion of this in the article? Instead we get a lot of sexual rumours (most likely nonsense).2.26.103.123 (talk) 21:29, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: TB was a fairly common disease in that period so I'm not sure that it's distinctive an issue to warrant inclusion. But that said, if you can find sources that talk about its impact upon Louis then go ahead and put something on. Aside fom that I don't know why you think issues dealing with his sexuality should be simply dismissed as "nonsense". Are you privy to some sort of private analysis? Contaldo80 (talk) 14:57, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Illness of Louis XIII.

message: Below the Death paragraph in the Spanish version, it is written "edemas" instead of "enema". Enema has the same meaning in Spanish and English as well.
Thanks. Carolina MarDa (talk) 00:15, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: .  Any problems with the Spanish Wikipedia version of the article have to be handled over there, not here.  –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 01:05, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 22 August 2019 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Louis XIV of France which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 21:30, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: * I propose to make two under-paragraphs, "Three Musketeers" and "Others".
* In the first bullet point, I'd like to have a reference to the 1978 version also. In fact, I am not sure that many of the quoted versions come in fact close to the popularity of D'Artagnan and Three Musketeers, where Louis XIII is also depicted VERY negatively.
--89.204.155.219 (talk) 16:52, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request "In fiction and film" 

message: I would especially point to this passage: "His interests as a teenager were focused on male courtiers and he developed an intense emotional attachment to his favourite, Charles d'Albert, although some say there is no clear evidence of a sexual relationship." It seems to conflate emotional attachment with sexual relationship, which are different subjects, and direct focus to a question (did he or didn't he?) which isn't really suited to an encyclopedia. The above passage is followed with a reciation of various pieces of evidence which suggest the king was an active homosexual, and that is the end of the matter.
This would be satisfactory for the National Enquirer, but for an encyclopedia, relevance should be established by way of connection with larger themes. Did ridicule or the desire to hide something affect the quality of the king's work? Did homosexual sex affect his health? Did his attraction to foreign potentates or ambassadors affect French diplomacy? And so on. Without this, the material in the article serves mainly to titillate the reader. WmDKing (talk) 21:47, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Come on. Sexual orientation is always an important part of the life of a person, any biography mentions it, and so do articles on Wikipedia, as they do with many other personal details. Removing it can only be POV-motivated censorship. I'm only answering this six-month old comment because another editor just deleted the information without any explanation. Presumably they just don't want it to be true or known for POV reasons.--Anonymous44 (talk) 17:06, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Treatment of subject's possible homosexuality 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: Please add the category :Category:LGBT Roman Catholics. 2601:249:9301:D570:3086:BE89:6B9F:DBEE (talk) 22:43, 24 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Sincerely, Guessitsavis (she/they) (Talk) 01:52, 25 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2024