Talk:Joseph Stalin/Archive 6

message: *"...a period of severe repression which reached its peak in 1937, during which more than a million suspected political opponents were killed." The wording of this is sloppy on my part. Other than that, though, mentioning the specific impact of the Purge is indeed relevant. "Severe repression" is getting there but is too broad.
**Well, if you insert "sloppy" wording in the intro in one of Wikipedia's most important articles, expect to get reverted. 172 05:11, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The photos are kind of cluttered. I'll go ahead and remove one. 172 | Talk 06:00, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent intro changes 

message: While rewriting the article yourself 172 is not something that I think would be productive, I think working a new article with all information in it referenced might be productive. It might take a few months to rewrite the article (I don't have much time and might to check out some books), but only referenced information would be used. Fred Bauder 21:53, July 27, 2005 (UTC)
:Only referenced information would be used if I rewrote the article, which is always the case with my rewrites. However, while I could do it in a week, I do not anticipating having the time to spare for a long time. We should concentrate on working on the current version of the article for now. 172 | Talk 22:02, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's start from basics: 
*is sectioning OK? 
*Which sections are in bad format?
*Which sections are of poor content?
mikka (t) 22:42, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Starting from scratch 

message: Normally an intro of a state/party leader states the begin/end dates. In the case of Stalin it is a bit murky: the periods 1922-1924 (Lenin's death) and  1924-? are foggy in terms of power. There was a period of collegiate Party leadership. It is a common understanding that  positions of state government were purely technical and, e.g., Kalinin cannot be seriously considered leader of the state. I wrote a weasely phrase, but it needs work. mikka (t) 22:41, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leadership: beginning 

message: I think this one would be quite useful  and sells used for a reasonable price. This one  seems a bit more dicey, see  and it costs quite a bit more). This one  seems extra good, but is quite expensive. Fred Bauder 13:24, July 29, 2005 (UTC)
:Extra good but pricey is right. If possible, there's always the possibility of reading them at a university library. 172 | Talk 13:57, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  172's reading list 

message: The article claims Stalin was expelled from the Georgian Orthodox Seminary for not being able to pay his tuition fees, but this article claims that later on the school admitted to expelling him for trying to convert students to Marxism. Is this correct? If so, it should be edited.http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/RUSstalin.htm  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cid246 (talk • contribs) 02:05, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, that site says that "Stalin was later to claim that the real reason was that he had been trying to convert his fellow students to Marxism."  Stalin did later claim this in 1931 in response to a questionaire, which had changed the prior state story that he was expelled for being "unreliable" after engaging in revolutionary activity.  In actuality, he basically became despondent, stopped attending and owed tuition (and non-returned books).  The letters from the school to him about it have since been produced.Mosedschurte (talk) 07:07, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expulsion Facts?