Talk:San Quentin Rehabilitation Center

message: Bad writing. Long lists of trivia and inmates. Tacked on sentences that ignore structure. Spam -- advertisements for works by bands recorded at the prison, etc etc.  The whole article needs extensive rewriting.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.132.168.237 (talk) 19:17, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Have been rewriting, and hopefully the grammar is better. However, inmate lists help establish WP:Notability, and articles on prisons such as Attica Correctional Facility have inmate lists. Also, the concerts by Cash & King seem notable (maybe not the others). CorrexCal (talk) 08:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

text: The capacity number in the box is different than the one mentioned in the article. Which one is correct? 99.197.128.56 (talk) 05:33, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiple Quality Issues 

message: Anyone think there should be a section of the article about notable events at San Quentin such as the legendary performance of Waiting for Godot or the numerous visits by Johnny Cash? Just a thought. 66.65.51.127 07:14, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also B. B. King performed Live at San Quentin here on May 25, 1990.  --ota (talk) 17:00, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: For Waiting for Godot, see "Programs" section. For Cash (but I could find only one notable visit) & King, see "San Quentin in media" section. CorrexCal (talk) 08:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Culture at San Quentin

message: I've removed the following absurd section:
:Note about the name San and Santa are the Spanish words for Saint, San being the male form, and Santa the female. However Quentin was not a saint; he was actually a prisoner who served time for murder in the prison during its history. The reason for this naming is that many places in the locality already had the name San or Santa, for example San Rafael, San Francisco, San Anselmo, Santa Rosa and San Jose to name a few. When naming the prison after the infamous Quentin, the authorities decided to keep the local "san tradition" and named it San Quentin.
If anyone provides a source for this I'll happily apologize for the deletion. -EDM 06:57, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The previous version was inaccurate, but I got a source here.  RMoloney (talk) 13:02, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Prison named for an inmate?

message: This page [Stanford_prison_experiment] refers to a riot taking place here, which was particularly significant. This page on the experiment goes into detail:
Our study was terminated on August 20, 1971. The next day, there was an alleged escape attempt at San Quentin. Prisoners in the Maximum Adjustment Center were released from their cells by Soledad brother George Jackson, who had smuggled a gun into the prison. Several guards and some informant prisoners were tortured and murdered during the attempt, but the escape was prevented after the leader was allegedly gunned down while trying to scale the 30-foot high prison walls.
Shouldn't this be mentioned on the page about the prison?
* I'm not sure, but here is some detail.  It was apparently called "The Day of the Gun" riot.  Chriskelvie 22:03, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the LA Times discusses the murder of 3 guards and 3 prisoners on August 21, 1971 - http://articles.latimes.com/1986-06-29/news/mn-378_1_prison-guards - Not 1971, but a riot in 2011 also injured 4 prisoners http://www.sfexaminer.com/local/bay-area/2011/05/four-hospitalized-san-quentin-riot --218.215.28.188 (talk) 12:11, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: San Quentin Riot?

message: I read a story in the paper this morning about a notable inmate given the death sentence, but was not executed on time as doctors refused to participate in what they thought was an cruel and unusual punishment. If anyone wants to update this, feel free. I lost the article, unfortuneatly, but it was in today's Oregonian. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.21.170.126 (talk • contribs) 03:51, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Updating recent news story?

message: Am I losing it, or did there used to be something on the ground that could be seen as you drove over the Richmond San Rafel Bridge that said "San Quentin Boot Camp?"69.12.143.197 18:52, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  San Quentin Boot Camp 

message: Just letting ya'll know that I added information about Johnny Cash as well.
Hardliner 05:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Info about Johnny Cash 

message: Were does the name "San Quentin" come from?--Oliver s. 15:17, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origine of the name? 

message: He was not the last sex offender/non-murderer executed in the US. I've amended the information accordingly.
smb2a 04:32, 08 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carryl Chessman 

message: If anyone's interested, I've proposed a new wikiproject for the creation and improvement of articles regarding specific prisons, internment camps, and detention centers here. --Cdogsimmons (talk) 02:34, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikiproject Prisons 

message: I see there's some question about the value of the site.  250M vs. 100M.  I was under the impression that the 100M figure listed in the intro paragraph refers to just the prison itself, the structures and buildings.  The 275M figure would be the total value of the land based on the current real estate market.  Can anyone else verify this?  
SaintHammett (talk) 16:20, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It may also be that the difference includes the environmental liabilities needed to refurbish the land for future use. It definitely warrants further explanation in the article. —C.Fred (talk) 23:39, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See reference in "Current facility" section for details. CorrexCal (talk) 08:30, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Land/Property Value 

message: The Governor is considering selling San Quentin to help pay for the budget deficit. --63.139.174.185 (talk) 16:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  San Quentin could be sold? 

message: I find it difficult to believe every notable prisoner is on deathrow --71.131.27.5 (talk) 01:04, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Prisoners 

message: There is no citation or detail for "Bob Dylan recorded an album in San Quentin"  Cleshne (talk) 15:43, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Bob Dylan

message: This image http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v698/lilboomer01/ScreenHunter_016.jpg could be used as the basis of a map of San Quentin WhisperToMe (talk) 19:46, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: San Quentin map

message: Peep this: Films set in San Quentin State Prison. -- JeffreyBillings (talk) 18:13, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Films set in San Quentin State Prison 

message: I see the heading has been changed from “Notable inmates” to “Notorious inmates”.  While I agree that “notorious” is a more appropriate heading for the great majority of people listed, I also noticed one inmate, Leo Gordon, who was only sentenced to 4 years (his article says he served 5), and another, Bruce Lisker, who was wrongly convicted.  Gordon was “notable” because of his subsequent achievements, but did his crime rise to the level of “notorious”?  And is it fair to describe the probably innocent Lisker as “notorious”?  I would therefore prefer the heading to be changed back to “Notable inmates”, unless someone has a better idea.TheTruth-2009 (talk) 10:38, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed it back, and here's the text of my edit summary: "good faith, but 'notorious' is a little POV-heavy; 'notable' is more descriptive of the criteria for inclusion". —C.Fred (talk) 14:47, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you.  It is good to know that my feelings on this issue are in accordance with Wikipedia policy.TheTruth-2009 (talk) 09:59, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable inmates or Notorious inmates? 

message: The prison population has been updated from the 2008 figure to the 2013 figure.  While in general I agree that articles should have current figures, in this specific case the figures reveal something important, namely that the prison is overcrowded - and the overcrowding in 2008 was even worse than it is now.  That is worthy of mention.  The two figures could either be given together, or the 2008 figure could be included in the History section where overcrowding is also already mentioned.  Also, is it really necessary for the figure to be given twice in the same short paragraph?TheTruth-2009 (talk) 05:09, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated population statistics 

message: I'ved added an inline citation from an article that was published yesterday by Gunernica (http://www.guernicamag.com/daily/jessica-pishko-the-news-from-san-quentin-part-1/). I think the piece (after the second part is published) may be worth expanding on.
:Because the newspaper operates without any funding from federal or state sources, it funds its press run of 11,500 solely from private donors and grants. Since 2008, when the paper was reinstated after a hiatus, a group of more than 20 inmates write and edit the articles each month. The paper is currently printed by an outside print shop; it was originally printed in-house, but the prison print shop was closed in 2010 when funding for all programs within California programs was slashed.
Any thoughts on expanding the statement about the newspaper? Best, Comatmebro ~Come at me~ 19:54, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: New article regarding the San Quentin News

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message: Is there some compelling reason this article makes no mention of Leo Stanley and his tenure at San Quentin? Even simply a link to the already existing wikipedia page on "Unethical human experimentation in the us" would suffice, and it's a pretty important part of the place's history to leave out.(I forgot my login otherwise I'd sign with more than and IP) 173.46.103.226 (talk) 05:22, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leo Stanley and Medical Experimentation 

message: Why are we putting the state abbreviation code in the lede? it seems odd to me. maybe im wrong.2602:304:CFD0:6350:686F:6BF0:E76A:2F07 (talk) 06:27, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's a commonly-used abbreviation, it should be in the lede. We put airport codes in the introductions of airport articles, for instance. —C.Fred (talk) 21:41, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
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message: At the time of this writing, Juan Corona's section within the "Former"-section of the "Notable inmates"-section of this article says that he is currently at Corcoran State Prison. However, according to Juan Corona's article (at the time of this writing), he died March 4, 2019. If he has died, shouldn't the stuff about him currently being at Corcoran State Prison be rephrased? Or is his dead body still at Corcoran State Prison? Heart of Destruction (talk) 08:12, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Juan Corona's section within the "Former"-section of the "Notable inmates"-section 

message: I found https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53476208
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thread_title:  On the prison and COVID-19 

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message: At the time of this writing, Roger Kibbe's section within the "Former"-section of the "Notable inmates"-section of this article says that he is currently incarcerated in Mule Creek State Prison. However, according to Roger Kibbe's article (at the time of this writing), he died February 28, 2021. If he has died, shouldn't the stuff about him currently being incarcerated in Mule Creek State Prison be rephrased? Or is his dead body still at Mule Creek State Prison? Heart of Destruction (talk) 13:21, 22 March 2021 (UTC)
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