Talk:Toyota in Formula One

message: At the end of the same year, Andersson founded Andersson Motorsport in his native country of Sweden and began running a Rally program for Toyota.GP Encyclopedia > Contructors > Toyota Motorsport GrandPrix.com. Retrieved 30 October 2006 
The move proved to be an inpractical one and the team moved to Brussels in 1975 and was renamed Team Toyota Europe (TTE), with funding coming from Toyota dealerships across Europe. The same year, Toyota secured their first victory in Motorsport, after Finnish driver Hannu Mikkola and his co-driver, Atso Aho, won the 1975 Rally of Finland in a Toyota Corolla. 
Four years later the team moved on from it's Belgian base to Cologne in Western Germany. The team enjoyed further success in the 1980s, with drivers Bjorn Waldegaard and Juha Kankkunen winning the African rallies on a regular basis. The team then moved to an all-purpose racing facility which still serves as the team's base. The team enjoyed more success in the early 90s, Carlos Sainz winning the World Championship in a Four-wheel drive Toyota Celica and repeated the feat two years later.
Toyota bought the company from Andersson in 1993, and remaned it Toyota Motorsport. Juha Kankkunen won the World Title in the same year and Toyota became the first Japanese manufacturer to win the Contructors' championship in the WRC. Didier Auriol repeated the feat for the team in 1994 but the team were caught using an illegal turbo system during the Rally of Spain; the team admitted to the usage of the system and were banned for 12-months by the FIA.
The team managed to get back into the championship in 1996, but the opposition was too strong and the team were unable to re-establish the success they enjoyed during the early 1990s. During early 1997, Toyota began to recruit staff for their attempt to win the Le Mans 24 hours the following year. With a long-term aim to start a Formula One team, Toyota entered the 1998 Le Mans 24 hours with a strong driver line-up, with ex-Formula One drivers, Thierry Boutsen; Martin Brundle and Ukyo Katayama driving a Toyota GT-One. Although the cars were fast, they were beaten in the two races the team entered, 1998 and 1999, beaten by Porshe and BMW repectively.
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:That section is basically the (Brief in some ways) history of Toyota prior to the creation of the Formula One team. I'll get round to expanding it's related article after the outcome of Alain Prost's FAC. Anyway, sorry if the section was a bit too much Mark.--Skully Collins 14:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Section removed - perhaps a new article needed?

message: Nothing about the scandal with the stolen data from Ferrari?
:(This has since been included in the article). Lradrama 20:17, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ferrari scandal 

message: Doesn't this section largely repeat the info box at the top of the article? 4u1e 18:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Toyota statistics

message: I've added 2 new sections that will be of use to people looking at this page.
*A brief history list of the drivers that've raced for Toyota F1
*A bit about the sponsorship
I hope everyone likes them, and i was enspired by other F1 team pages. Expand them if you want Lradrama 22:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Sections - sponsorship and drivers 

message: My aim is to get this article to GA, and then FA status (good article and featured article respectively). Currently, this article on Toyota F1 is a B-class article. I am going to address it's problems and improve it's content. 
If you have any suggestions, put them on this page, or on my talk page (User talk:Lradrama) - I'd appreciate any all the help possible.
This is an exciting project, and I hope you support it. (Please, if you think some of the content may be unsuitable, don't revert all of my work; just remove the offending text, and contact me with your reasons - constructive criticism is the foundation for success!)
Lradrama 11:59, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: (Just a suggestion, but I usually do that last - the reason is that the lead should summarise the rest of the article, so it's hard to write it well until you've got the rest of the article where you want it. :)) 4u1e 16:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

text: If you're asking for an opinion, the standard of writing is good - although watch out for a lack of neutrality (see WP:NPOV) and for original research (see WP:OR). The third paragraph of the lead looks like it may be your own conclusions rather than fact or the attributed views of notable authorities - if so, it should go. The second and third paragraphs cover material which is not presently in the rest of the article, which ultimately should not be the case. As I say, the third para should probably go, the content of the second para could be included in the article, if referenced. Hope that's useful, it's intended to be! 4u1e 21:47, 13 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I guess they were your own views then? ;-) Do you have a reference for the material in the second paragraph, and whereabouts in the article do you think the material should go (remembering that the lead is only supposed to be a summary)? Cheers. 4u1e 22:12, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm now thinking of replacing the 'drivers past & present' part with a section called 'Notable Drivers', like the version in the Fittipaldi Automotive article. Lradrama 19:31, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Road to FA status 

message: *Lack of sources in the second half of article
*Use of contractions in the article
*Apparent OR is determining RS and JT as "notable drivers" and not the others
*"After a rather lacklustre 2004 season with the Grove-based team, a need for change was felt and Ralf joined Toyota. Many an eyebrow was raised at this transition, for the Japanese team had yet to mount the podium, let alone win a race." Should probably note that Williams wanted to give RS a pay cut because of his performance and he refused, and went to a weaker team for pay increase. There was a lot of comment about his motiviations in going to Toyota. Persistent refs to "Ralf" and not "Schumacher". Ditto for "Jarno"
*hyperbole "Qualifying 6th on his Toyota debut in Japan was a sign of great things to come from this new partnership" - other examples exist
*many unsourced subjective comments about driving ability
Blnguyen  (bananabucket) 08:00, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: These are being seen to. Lradrama 11:35, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Thankyou Pyrope, and yes, further help will be gratefully recieved. :-) Lradrama 16:12, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Chipping in with a passing thought: In cutting down on the 1957 - 2002 section, I'd suggest concentrating more on cutting material from the first para than from the second, since the second is about the actual origin of the F1 team. 4u1e 13:23, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I was thinking too. Lradrama 11:07, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA failed 

message: As you may probably have seen, I'm beginning to insert the required references into the article. Many thanks to 4u1e for his help with this, and providing links to the best sites to use. This process will take some time, but at least we're addressing another of those points on the failed GA list. Lradrama 09:39, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Hello. If you've been looking on the Toyota F1 article hostory recently, you'll have noticed I've removed two comments (anyhow, I put them there in the first place).
The first one was a comment saying that Ralf Schumacher bonded better with Jarno Trulli at Toyota than with Juan Pablo Montoya at Williams.
The second was one which stated Tsutomu Tomita saying that Toyota's 1st podium result (Malaysia 2005) 'was the best day' in his life.
I know these were done or said (the latter was stated in the Autosport magazine - but that can't be used as a reference). But on looking through records on the internet, I can't find anything that would act as a reference for them.
I've thus removed them to ensure the quality of this article - it failed its GA application due to unsourced statements mostly. 
If anyone can find any references for these true claims, please say so - either on this talkpage, or on my talkpage please. Thank you, Lradrama 16:22, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Lradrama - Glad to see you're still at work! There's no reason that you can't use Autosport as a reference; it's a respectable print publication. There is no requirement that references be available online and something like Autosport probably carries more weight than some online sources. 4u1e 12:30, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh yes! That could be a good idea! Thanks 4u1e for the 'tip-off', although, how would you do that? It's just I've never done that before  :-). Lradrama 13:30, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well the first question would be: Do you have a copy of the Autosport magazine in question? I kind of assumed you did from your comment above. Or do you just read them in WHSmith's like me ;-). If you have a copy, then you could use the template {{Citation}} newspaper (or magazine, journal, periodical) from Wikipedia:Citation_templates. See ref 3 from Monaco Grand Prix for an example in practice. Drop me a note on my talk page if you get stuck. 4u1e 18:29, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments removed - no sources... :-( 

message: Toyota's entry in the World Endurance Championship is running under the title of Toyota Racing.  Should this current article be restructured to reflect Toyota's sports car efforts, both in the late 90s and now, since they are under the same title?  Or would it be better managed under Toyota Motorsport GmbH which has run all three programs (GT-One, F1, TS030)? The359 (Talk) 07:38, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think WEC entry belongs to the Toyota Motorsport GmbH article, Toyota Racing is just a trading name. Actually, I'd rather say this F1 article should be a subsection of TMG article because the F1 entry was a TMG activity. But, the F1 entry may have been so notable that it deserves an own article. --August90 (talk) 08:17, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reusing this article for LMP program? 

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