Talk:Chinese Taipei

message: I don't think this is true....
::Before changing its livery to remove the ROC flag, China Airlines had to fly as Mandarin Airlines on routes to certain destinations. Mandarin Airlines was something completely separate from China Airlines Roadrunner 08:08, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Livery

message: Will Taiwanese (?China?) athletes be allowed to participate in the Olympic games, I don't think that athletes should suffer because of politics?   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.135.171 (talk) 23:13, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Taiwan (?China?) Participation in the Olympics

message: The current version states:  
during the funeral of Pope John Paul II, President Chen Shui-bian was seated as part of the French alphabetical seating arrangement between the first lady of Brazil and the president of Cameroon as the head of state of "Chine".
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However, that doesn't make sense as "Chine" doesn't come alphabetically between "Brésil" and "Cameroun" in French or English.  Yet, this photo shows him indeed standing between those two people.  It might make more sense to say that he was invited as the "President of China" (since the Vatican recognizes the ROC as the legitimate government for all of China) in keeping with the spirit of this article, but the wording now is confusing.  --Canuckguy 01:49, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seating at John Paul II's funeral 

message: In the Finnish Wikipedia I have changed the article name Kiinan Taipei (that is China's Taipei or Taipei of China in English) to adjective form Kiinalainen Taipei, which is Chinese Taipei in English. However, my edits has been reverted every time.
Could anyone help in this matter, please?
--PKo (talk) 17:22, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've noticed that quite a few of the other language articles on this subject use something that looks like "China Taipei" rather than "Chinese Taipei", but unfortunately my knowledge of those languages is too weak for me to be sure I'm reading it correctly or to do much. Readin (talk) 17:00, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I just checked the Portugese page.  Maybe I did do some good!  It has been renamed from "China Taipei" to "Taipé Chinês"! I have a very poorly written note on the Spanish page, perhaps I should do like I did on the Portugese discussion and just write in English. Readin (talk) 17:05, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Italian page looks like it may need work also.  Anyone read and write, or at least read, Italian? Readin (talk) 17:12, 19 September 2008 (UTC)

text: I checked the Finnish page and it seems Nat did some follow up there.  According to the discussion, Kiinan Taipei is the term used in official translations (even if the translation isn't correct) and it is also the term commonly used in Finnish, so the title is staying as is.  The article at this point does include the term Kiinalainen Taipei but I'm not sure what they're saying about it.  Hopefully they're pointing out the difference between the meaning of the Finnish translation and the meaning of the Chinese and English words agreed to by China and Taiwan Readin (talk) 17:24, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "Maybe I did do some good." This is not about being good or bad. It's about being neutral! And this whole thread is about pushing "noun Taipei" to "adjective Taipei" in every language to make it less "China" in any way possible. It's ridiculous, as there will always be something "Chinese" attached to it. Let the respective languages choose themselves and consult the official website of the Olympics, which is available in several languages. Don't just make up stuff! Some languages don't even have the grammatical means to make a distinction between the two. Pushing your agenda onto Wikipedias in other languages when you can't even understand the reply in Spanish. It's "China Taipéi" on the official website, and there's no way around that. Also, 中国台北 doesn't even translate to "China's Taipei", it's "Taipei, China". Don't make the English translation sound awkward to ridicule the mainland proposal. A grammatical feature in Chinese is simply to go from large to small units. --2001:16B8:31EB:8000:75EE:203D:2E0F:61 (talk) 12:21, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese Taipei / Kiinalainen Taipei vs. China's Taipei (Taipei of China) / Kiinan Taipei 

message: This is directed to the anon user who contributes using IP addresses such as 140.232.179.120 and 140.232.11.61. I appreciate that you may well be contributing in good faith. However, your edits go directly against general consensus on China- and Taiwan-related topics. This consensus is founded on policies such as WP:NPOV and WP:V, among others. I appreciate that you may not be familiar with these policies or the related consensus. If I may make the suggestion, I believe that you should familiarise yourself with the above-quoted policies, and also read Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese) to understand the current consensus on these topics. The consensus is, of course, the product of discussion and evolves over time, so it is quite open for you to point out any inadequacies you see in the current conventions.
To be specific, some of the problems with your versions are as follows:
* "Republic of China the democratic island country". Describing the Republic of China as a "country" is in itself controversial: see political status of Taiwan. Describing it as an "island country" is highly POV, in the sense that it privileges one point of view over many others without proper justification.
* See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (flags) why your flags are highly inappropriate and must be removed.
* You are blanket reverting, meaning that substantive edits are being lost every time you revert. 
Please refrain from reverting, familiarise yourself with policies, and discuss the matter on the talk page if you disagree. --PalaceGuard008 (Talk) 23:38, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anon contributions 

message: So at the beginning of every Olympic Games,   the atheletes parade into the stadium and the two announcers announce the name of each national group in French and then in English.  For example "Etats-Uni d'Amerique" and then "United States of America".
So why does the French announcer say "Chinese Taipei"  and not something like  "Taipei Chinoise" in French ?Eregli bob (talk) 07:21, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  French 

message: Should some mention be made that, in Taiwan, the term is never used by the populace, only by the media? The media are largely propaganda outlets for political interests and little credence should be placed on their conventions if trying to gauge the opinion or outlook of the Taiwanese people (most of whom in the twenty-first century do not consider themselves nationally or even culturally Chinese, but Taiwanese; no member of Taiwan's recent generations will tell you "I'm Chinese").  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.161.206.165 (talk) 18:56, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt it's ever been used by anyone outside of specific contexts in which it must be used. It is a political pseudonym, and I suspect even the media won't use it unless it's being used by the entity being reported on. CMD (talk) 06:58, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Media usage irrepresentative of popular usage, outlook 

message: I have noticed that the editors on Wikipedia cannot distinguish the terms "Chinese Taipei" and "Taiwan". They simply change everything to either Chinese Taipei or Taiwan. This is not right and not informative. The post above says "Chinese Taipei" is another name for "Taiwan". This is not entirely true because Chinese Taipei is another name for Taiwan only for sports events (or political).
Chinese Taipei is used only for sports events only. It's a political term. For example, Chinese Taipei national baseball team, or Chinese Taipei Olympic Committee. You cannot call these organizations "Taiwan national baseball team or Taiwan Olympic Committee because that's not accepted internationally and would violate the rules of Wikipedia. 
But you cannot call Taiwan as Chinese Taipei when we are talking about non-political topics. For example, I see a lot of editors would write, "XXX competition was held in Chinese Taipei". This is wrong because you cannot find Chinese Taipei anywhere on this world. It does not exist and is merely a term used for sports teams. When describing locations, you cannot say Taiwan is Chinese Taipei. Look at your world map. You can only see Taiwan, not Chinese Taipei. Or have you ever heard of, "This person is from Taichung, Chinese Taipei". This is exactly why there's a difference between the two terms. We want to stay neutral on Wikipedia. If we write everything as Chinese Taipei, it is actually discriminatory and against international consensus by political persecution.
The general rule is when we say Taiwan in terms of teams or sports events, it is Chinese Taipei. Some examples, "Chinese Taipei beats XXX team in the XXX game", "Chinese Taipei Baseball Association says..." or "XXX player competes under the name Chinese Taipei". When you want to describe locations, then you use Taiwan. For example, "XXX is a tennis athlete from Taiwan", "This event was held in New Taipei, Taiwan", or "The Taiwanese officials declare...". Of course, you can use the two terms together when necessary. You may say, "XXX is an athlete from Taiwan competing for Chinese Taipei", or "This event will be hosted in Taipei, Taiwan...Host team Chinese Taipei is the defending champion...".
Hope this explains the situation. - Jjj84206 (talk) 18:24, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use Chinese Taipei Only for Sports Teams, Not Locations 

message: Please add. 71.255.85.81 (talk) 20:34, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy Section 

message: The following sentence has enough stylistic and even grammatical problems as to be incomprhensible: "because “Chinese Taipei” signified an uncertain boundary that could exceed the ROC’s actual territory of control of Taiwan, Penghu, Kinmen and Matsu, whenever the ROC government wished to assert it."
First of all, what is a "territory of control of Taiwan". There must be a better way to phrase this, one that would make clear what this means, what the referent is. Second, what is the antecedent of the pronoun "it" at the end of the sentence?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Davduff (talk • contribs) 12:22, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does this sentence even mean? 

message: To the anonymous editor using the IP address 209.66.197.28 (talk) (San Diego County Office of Education?): Please do not indiscriminately replace hanyu pinyin with tongyong pinyin or simplified characters with traditional. If you would like to add more of each, I would not object, but please do not remove one in favor of another, without first discussing the reason on this talk page. Phlar (talk) 03:46, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hanyu vs. Tongyong Pinyin; Simplified vs. Traditional characters 

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message: Why do such sentences go unchecked? USA is not British Washington because the US actually declared independence and fought a bloody war over it, while the Republic of China has yet to declare its independence, change its name and formally drop its claims over mainland China. The Unionist side of these arguments is underpresented in this section. --82.207.237.28 (talk) 17:02, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
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message: "Slav" ist definitely not cultural sphere, national identity, or the like, and the word itself is no ethnonyme. 2A02:A312:C441:BC80:B192:7C81:89CD:F2CE (talk) 21:01, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cultural sphere, national identity, ethnonym