Talk:Erwin Schrödinger

message: I notice this article doesn't mention that he was apparently color blind. I came across this fact here: . 216.21.161.163 (talk) 19:07, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Color blindness 

message: I request that this article is added to Category:Austrian atheists. This fact is stated not only on this very article, but on the article List of atheists in science and technology, a whopping six sources are listed for Schrödinger:
 LaunchOctopus (talk) 17:29, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Topher385 (talk) 03:08, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categorisation 

message: I do not understand the relevance of 'Google Doodle' for this biography? Why for the god's sake is relevant that google commemorated Schrödinger with some Doodle? Completely arbitrary fact. In line should we encourage people to keep adding completely arbitrary facts to articles? I think this should be removed.
: Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. Izno (talk) 12:34, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 19 June 2017 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Todd Sampson wore a t-shirt with this article's lead image of Schrödinger on the ABC's show Gruen on 18 October 2017. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 11:29, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: "Legacy"

message: The first sentence in Erwin Schrödinger#Colour states: "Schrödinger had a strong interest in psychology, in particular colour perception and colorimetry (Farbenmetrik). He spent few years of his life working on these questions and published a series of papers in this area:". It makes better sense to me, if that was modified to He spent _a_ few years of his life. 79.44.36.54 (talk) 08:27, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:53, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi-protected edit request on 3 November 2017

message: Is it only me or something is amiss here? "revealed the identity of his development of the formalism and matrix mechanics"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.54.232.175 (talk) 05:16, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That part was added by Thepalerider2012 on . I suggest to remove it. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:13, 10 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parsing trouble 

message: "He wrote about 50 further publications on various topics" would be better written using "around", not "about" i.e. "He wrote around 50 further publications on various topics"; it refers to the quantity of the publications - the publications were not the subject of his writings.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.78.82.6 (talk) 08:53, 22 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better English phrase 

message: In the second paragraph of Later years, He received a personal invitation from Irish Taoiseach, Éamon de Valera to come to Ireland but on the page of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dublin_Institute_for_Advanced_Studies in History section, it says that Erwin Schrödinger was interested in coming to Ireland. Which statement is true?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amircoldscug (talk • contribs) 13:32, 6 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Later Years 

message: So, Schrodinger was Austrian - born to Austrian parents, in Austria, and presumably with Austrian ancestry (with apparently British ancestry and, according to the category list with no mention in the article, Hungarian ancestry).
After about fifty years (the article isn't clear, mentioning only "the same year", and receiving an invitation, which can only presumably mean 1938.. or maybe the invitation was 1933? Maybe he recieved the invitation in 1938 but actually travelled later?), he moved to the Republic of Ireland, where he taught.
Seventeen years later, he had retired and returned to Austria, having apparently taken citizenship of the Republic of Ireland (the demonym for which is 'Irish') after having lived there for ten years.
So he spent seven years in the Republic of Ireland as a citizen of that country.
So how does this qualify him as an "Irish physicist", exactly?
This phrase, in the categories, implies much more than the reality of the situation: which is that he spent seven years as a citizen of the Republic of Ireland. I've no idea what happens to naturalised citizenship once you leave a particular country. So far as I can tell, he never returned to the Republic of Ireland.
It is a particularly interesting question, given the attitudes of some people (both Irish and foreign) with regard to what constitutes being 'Irish'. There are a substanstial number of people living in Ireland who, for example, had varying degrees of Scottish, English and Welsh ancestry. Some extremists view these people as not being Irish, despite their ancestors having been born there for centuries.
Yet this Wiki article declares a person who lived in Ireland for about seventeen years, and then never returned to the place, as an "Irish physicist".
Notably, I can see from the Wiki categories also, that there is (for some unknown reason) a strong tendancy to refer to Northern Irish people as "people from Northern Ireland"; while at the same time, Wiki has articles for "English actors"; "Welsh engineers"; and "Scottish scientists" etc.
So people from Northern Ireland aren't Northern Irish, according to Wikipedia? Yet people from England are English. There is no logic behind any of this, nor any consistency.
Anyway, back to Schrodinger, who was apparently both Irish and not Irish!
Schrodiger, you see, was never Irish. This is not something you can change. Except through citizenship, specifically of the Republic of Ireland, and only because their chosen demonym is 'Irish' (interestingly, and rather by contrast to the way Wikipedia arbitrarily treats Northern Irish subjects, people from the Republic of Ireland are categorised as 'Irish actors' etc, rather than the more logically consistent 'Actors from the Republic of Ireland' - obviously the ambiguity between citizenship of the Republic of Ireland and actually being Irish is not a problem here).
So Schrodinger was a citizen of the Republic of Ireland (aka an 'Irish citizen'; aka "Southern Irish"), but was never actually Irish: both Irish and not Irish. A wave, but not a particle?
But he was certainly not an "Irish physicist", surely. --82.21.97.70 (talk) 16:23, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: No one in Ireland would consider him Irish in anything but a legal sense either but its wikipedia's policy to refer to citizenship as nationality unless someone specifies otherwise. 2A02:8084:4EE2:5E00:159B:2B6B:9590:1D85 (talk) 16:59, 14 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interesting discussion on being 'Irish' 

message: I remember in my sixth form days at school (between 1983 and 1985) I read in the Encyclopedia Brittanica (in those far-off days when this source was published on paper) that of all the physicists of his generation, Erwin Schrodinger stood out because of his amazing intellectual versatility. Should this go in the article? Vorbee (talk) 08:41, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Remarkable intellectual versatility

message: Please mention Erwin Schrodinger was recruited by CV Raman during world War crisis. Source Rizosome (talk) 13:19, 6 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please mention this important line in the article  

message: - Caption to the fourth photograph "Schrödinger (front row 4th from left)at Dublin Institute for Advanced Studies in 1942" is plainly in error. Erwin Schroedinger is seated front row second from the right. The person in front row 4th from left is plainly Eamon de Valera, then President of Ireland.2001:BB6:43C3:5D58:20B8:AD7D:FC78:31A0 (talk) 17:07, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Request 

message: Thanks whoever edited the Caption on the fourth Photograph. Please forgive the quibble, but the name of the fourth from left seated is not 'Valera' but 'de Valera' or 'De Valera'.
To anyone who has read any Irish history 'Valera' looks plain silly. It would be better to leave the man's name out of the caption than to insert it in this form.
As a point of interest (not part of this requested edit) national political leader Eamon de Valera was effectively the founder of the Dublin Institute of Advanced Studies, and its School of Theoretical Physics was partly inspired by a desire to accommodate exiles such as E. Schroedinger. 2001:BB6:43C3:5D58:20B8:AD7D:FC78:31A0 (talk) 19:06, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Request 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion 

message: Below is the section that was removed. Objections have been bolded to highlight the controversial text as far as I can tell. Most of the text, according to my reading, is not contested (except that perhaps there are concerns about accuracy of the sources -- but we attribute them and we know these sources are well-cited so excising them does not seem possible unless and until there is record setting of a somewhat more serious fashion than what appeared in Der Standard. jps (talk) 01:35, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Workshop the section

message: I can see no valid objection to this, we call it what it is.Slatersteven (talk) 12:37, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I am inclined to agree, unsurprisingly, but I am still holding out hope that there may be a way to satisfy all interests here. Perhaps that hope is in vain. jps (talk) 20:08, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I also see no objection grounded in policies and guidelines. The sources are there; this text summarizes what they say. XOR'easter (talk) 21:52, 3 February 2022 (UTC)

text: What a pity. He was a great scientist and I've read a couple of his books. Seems no doubt aobut it though. NadVolum (talk) 18:50, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I have tried to enact WP:ENEMY here, and while it would be nice if HPfan4 would do the same, it is obviously not a requirement. In any case, I think the exercise has improved the style of the section to a certain extent. However, I am basically at the point now where I don't see anything else additional that can be done. I am inclined to reinstate the section as it is currently written. jps (talk) 15:23, 7 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be fine with that. XOR'easter (talk) 22:59, 7 February 2022 (UTC)

text: I take extreme issue with your statement ; "groomimg" is impossible to prove or disprove, absent any clear inappropriate behaviour, which in this case there was none. Where does that end? With that standard, ANY interaction with ANY child, including that of a parent, could be alleged by any other person as "grooming" and therefore any conversing with any child is now worthy to be called sexual abuse? These newspapers are seemingly starved for scandals like this, because scandals of this nature sell. Hot button buzzwords to evoke moral outrage are never "reliable", no matter who they're coming from. And the dead are open targets for them, because the dead cannot be libeled. Thus, all standards go out the window. 2600:1702:4960:1DE0:90D6:2849:488A:3FB8 (talk) 02:08, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not for us to argue. That grooming has been identified by a variety of sources as a type of abuse is a fact. You may disagree with those sources, but that's not how we approach the production of prose at Wikipedia. For that reason, we really aren't supposed to have this kind of discussion on the talk page as according to WP long-standing policies and guidelines, such a dispute over the opinions of editors about content is irrelevant to the question of what prose to include and how to write it. Your opinion about what the newspapers have said may be good fodder for creating other sources that we can use, in fact, but, crucially, our hands are tied by sources. To that end, if you would like to effect change here, you'll need to get your analysis published in a reliable venue and get other reliable sources to notice. Only then can the prose in our article change to address that. But until then, there really is nothing we can do in article space to accommodate your analysis. jps (talk) 13:38, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: As far as I can see this article first used "color" rather than "colour" and the rule is that we then stick with that. --Bduke (talk) 04:36, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd have thought since he got Irish citizenship it should be colour. Not something he was notable for so not a very strong reason though. NadVolum (talk) 01:17, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  color or colour? 

message: How can you be a male supremacist and have an open relationship?  He was married to Annemarie Bertel who had a long time relationship to Hermann Weyl. How does tolerating that relationship fit together with being a "male supremacist"? - Haaklich (talk) 18:04, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not our job to try and make assessments consistent. just to say things with due weight accordig to the source. NadVolum (talk) 19:42, 20 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  male supremacist? 

message: What does this even mean? Dinosaurtoaster (talk) 12:58, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: That's an arbitrary thing to have in the 'awards' section. I removed it. Jähmefyysikko (talk) 13:03, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Schrödinger's cat is named in his honour" 

message: At the “know for” place pls add “Inverse Schrödinger Trap” Fung23aps (talk) 03:43, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Charliehdb (talk) 10:07, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 May 2024