Talk:List of songs that retell a work of literature

message: What about bands whose entire catalog of songs is a tribute to a work of literature?  Blind Guardian comes to mind.  All their songs are based on works of Tolkien, primarily plotlines from The Lord of the Rings books. -- ヤギ 
:I'd say maybe make a separate section for things like that.  A lot of metal bands have whole albums based on various occult books (though I don't know if the Book of the Law qualifies as literature).  At the bottom of the list, you could add the band and which work or author it is based on. Tuf-Kat
:: i thought this particular joke had worn thin. -- Tarquin 18:13 Mar 8, 2003 (UTC)
:::This is the only one of the trivia lists of songs which interests me. Tuf-Kat
:: fair point. it's less dumb than the others. isn't "Hotel California" a retelling of greek legend? -- Tarquin 18:16 Mar 8, 2003 (UTC)
:::I think I've heard that before.  I'm listening to it now, though, and can't figure out which story it might be. Maybe it Odysseus and Circe... Tuf-Kat
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This page should be at List of songs that retell a work of literature, not which. Which is inclusive; that is exclusive. - Montréalais
:I knew that.  I was just testing everyone else to see how long it would take for someone else to notice. I swear... Tuf-Kat
My, that was fast ^_^ would have done it myself but not logged in at a library computer on a lunchbreak. - mtlais
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Pink Floyd's Animals is a retelling of Animal Farm? It's pretty liberal with it, isn't it? I don't remember Mary Whitehouse in Animal Farm... I think "retelling" is a little over the top. In fact, are there any connections at all short of it using animals as metaphors? -Nommo
:Hmm... I'm the one that added it, but I don't remember why.  Probably I found it on the project linked to on the main page, which lists anything that refers to a work of literature, and something made me think the reference was a retelling...  Though my roommate swears it is, glancing through the lyrics, I don't see how.  If someone can prove it, they can put it back, but I'm going to take it off the list. Tuf-Kat
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What about songs which are directly set to literary texts? How about musicals and operas based on a work of literature?
:I would be inclined to say that these don't count. Tuf-Kat 20:01, Oct 28, 2003 (UTC)
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I have removed any which don't "retell" a work of literature (specifically, the Tool and Jefferson Airplane songs which refer to Alice in Wonderland).  This is not the same thing as "referring" to a work of literature. I also took out:
* "Carry On Up the Vicarage" by Steve Hackett is a "condensed version" of a typical Agatha Christie murder mystery plot.
Because it does not appear to be a retelling of a work of literature.Tuf-Kat 20:01, Oct 28, 2003 (UTC)
:Yeah, those entries bothered me too.  DropDeadGorgias 20:38, 28 Oct 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, looking up the Jefferson Airplane lyrics, it has convinced me, though I would like to pass the blame on the wording, which only claims that it "refers" to the novel.  I'll change that. The Tool song seems to only tangentially refer to the novel, and the Steve Hackett song is only a retelling of a "typical" Agatha Christie novel, whatever that means. Tuf-Kat 08:40, Nov 6, 2003 (UTC)
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LL Cool J does a song called "I'm that type of guy" that interpolates quotes from a movie based off of literature, should we include that in the list? It interpolates quotes from Wizard of Oz. --SuperDude 23:22, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Misc. comments

message: How about merging the literary items here and renaming the other list List of songs based on a film? ♥ Her Pegship♥ 21:43, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge question 

message: Would it make more sense to organize this by literary work or literary author? -MrFizyx 18:11, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organization 

message: Out of curiosity, are these limited to English-language songs? Pandacomics 07:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  question 

message: None of the examples listed in this article has a citation, which means these are nothing but the opinions of the editors who added them.  This is not appropriate or acceptable.  The article should not be expanded further unless references are added. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 17:30, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced 

message: This entire list appears to be original research. Can anyone point to a single reliable source that analyses this topic? I do find the list quite charming, and the retelling of a story from another character's point of view seems to have become a quite popular extended trope. --Bejnar (talk) 01:09, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As I write this, I see that your comment is almost eight years old. I am going to attempt to source all of these line items, and if I cannot, I will add a citation needed tag. This might take a while, so it is a good thing I am an eventualist. Thanks to all for their contributions to WP. KConWiki (talk) 05:16, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Original research

message: I am pasting this consolidated list here so that if anyone knows of a citable source, the appropriate edits can be made to this article. KConWiki (talk) 04:04, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: List of potentially citable entries that are currently in need of citations

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians - If you take a look at this sandbox page I have been working on, you will see that I have taken the (cited) entries currently on this page in list form and made them into tables for albums and for songs, as was suggested in several of the posts above a number of years ago. 
I would like to invite interested users to take a look at that sandbox and leave comments here. If no major concerns, I am going to plan on removing the list of songs and albums from the current page, and replace with the tables currently on that sandbox sometime after Sept. 16 2022 (one week from the time I am leaving this message). Any questions, comments, or observations, let's please discuss. Thanks KConWiki (talk) 04:18, 10 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not having seen any concerns expressed about this, I am going to move the table in to replace the lists on this page. Any concerns, let's discuss. KConWiki (talk) 15:42, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal to convert the list(s) on this page into table(s)

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians - I am removing this listing, at least for the time being, for two reasons - 1) The source cited does not seem like a Reliable Source, and 2) The group of songs does not seem to be an album. If anyone can provide a reliable source for the citation, and if we list out individual songs, then I think this would be appropriate information to add to this article. 
Album	Musical artist	Literary work  	Author     	Comments                                                                 	Citations
     	Blixemi       	Warriors series	Erin Hunter	A YouTuber who makes original songs inspired by the Warriors book series.	
Thanks KConWiki (talk) 03:49, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing Blixemi, at least temporarily