Talk:Sleeping car

message: CIWL was not THE operator of the Transsib, but operated sleeping-cars, dining-cars and during some time also luxury trains (before the october revolution).
Note that "Pullman car" has a different meaning in Great Britain and the European continent, standing for very comfortable daytime coaches with armchairs and tables that allow serving meals at the seat. Examples are the British Pullman cars now operated by VSOE, the CIWL pullman cars type Flèche d'Or (1st class), Étoile du Nord (2nd class) and Côte d'Azur (1st class, successor of Flèche d'Or), as well as the "Rheingold" 1928 to 1939 (Deutsche Reichsbahn-Gesellschaft and Mitropa).
(I believe the British Pullman company was not affiliated with the American one, but "secretly" controlled by the CIWL - I can't find sources about that, though ....)
84.115.129.76 14:12, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transsiberian Railway, Pullman cars 

message: I removed the following, as not only did it seem irrelevant, but also used highly NPOV vocabulary: Any number of travel books have been written by authors including Paul Theroux and Jenni Diski on the romance, for a solitary traveler, of traveling by train. But no paying business can pander to low-rent vagabonds, nicotine addicts and wandering scholars able to get great insight from a piece of dining car crockery, a Pullman blanket, or (in Diski's case, in her book Stranger on a Train), a stolen forbidden smoke on today's Amtrak and thus "all that rises must converge"...to the agreed upon minimum of a rapid trip on a narrow seat in a tin box. Dewrad 22:12, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  removed bizarrerie. 

message: Although sleeping car services have been harmed by the various market distortions that governments are endlessly tempted to impose on the transportation industry, there is little doubt that, particularly if those market distortions can be lessened in the future, sleeping car services will be able to continue playing a valuable transportation role, and perhaps even become more appreciated by a wider segment of the traveling public than they are today.
- FrancisTyers 08:46, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed pending citation

message: While I happen to agree with the sentiment expressed in this part of the article, it seems to be a bit over the line of NPOV, incorporating editorial comment and opinion. The observations seem valid, but perhaps it can be rewritten or cited? croll 18:10, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This was substantially improved by Mostergr on June 2 (kudos to Mostergr), but still has some issues IMO. croll 20:14, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I deleted the remaining editorial content and removed the npov tag.croll 20:46, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

text: That's great.  Can you help with editing, maintaining and improving rail transport content on Wikipedia? Slambo (Speak) 10:36, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Night trains today

message: Just pointing out that this page is about Sleeping cars (a type of carriage in a night train), but that the information under the heading "Night trains today" is about night train services, which usually also contain couchette cars, reclining seats, compartments, and sometimes a bar, too.
I would suggest either creating a new page called Night train services or something like that, or Couchette car should be merged with this one, renamed, and paragraphs on other parts of a typical night train service added. Davemnt (talk) 22:56, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Night trains today 

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message: In this articles the main points were well spoken to how the sleeping car was made to help people get well rested at night time. Although, the article was good I still felt like the article was a little to short. Not much information was given in this article to better the purpose of how the sleeping car can affect us as a community. There should be more information provided better the purpose of the articles.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Trankhayla (talk • contribs) 02:56, 3 November 2017 (UTC)
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message: There is a review of more or less current sleeper services in a number of countries, but the History section (also containing description of types) deals almost exclusively with the USA. 151.177.57.24 (talk) 00:20, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Global template 

message: As usual, Wikipedia prioritizes the first American use as the first instance in the world;  yet even for the use in America it's bungled.
It begins:
The sleeping car or sleeper (often wagon-lit) is a railway passenger car that can accommodate all passengers in beds of one kind or another, primarily for the purpose of making nighttime travel more comfortable. George Pullman was the American inventor of the sleeper car. 
Was he so ?  The beginning of the History section then goes on to say:
Possibly the earliest example of a sleeping car (or bed carriage, as it was then called) was on the London & Birmingham and Grand junction Railways between London and Lancashire, England. This was made available to first-class passengers in 1838.[1]
The first American sleeping car, the "Chambersburg" started service on the CVRR in 1839.The Cumberland Valley Railroad pioneered sleeping car service in the spring of 1839, with a car named "Chambersburg", between Chambersburg and Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. A couple of years later a second car, the "Carlisle", was introduced into service.
If Mr. Pullman introduced his service in 1865 that's 25 years after the Cumberland Valley Railroad did in America.  Claverhouse (talk) 03:41, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Inventor'