Talk:Mission San José (California)

message: IMPORTANT NOTE: Please remove ALL references to the words "de Guadalupe" in the name of the mission located in Fremont, California. The correct name  is Mission San José. The Administrator of Mission San José has provided a clarification statement: 
ABOUT OUR NAME: Contrary to what you may have read in most books, we are NOT Mission San José de Guadalupe. In the early part of the 1900's a sign was erected on the roof of the Museum which said 'MISSION SAN JOSE de GUADALUPE." Many books have since been published and, unfortunately, the authors used this reference in their stories. When this mission was founded it was named "LA MISION DEL GLORIOSISIMO PATRIARCH SAN JOSE" in honor of our patron of St. Joseph. All of our record books refer to the Mission as Mission San José. The pueblo (city) of San Jose was founded 13 miles South near the Guadalupe River. The only connection between the pueblo and the Old Mission is that both were named in honor of St. Joseph.
Please share the above information and advise that students can obtain information about this Mission by sending a self-addressed stamped envelope (legal size) to:
  OLD MISSION SAN JOSE
  P.0. Box 3159
  Fremont, CA  94539
citation:  http://www.pressanykey.com/missions/msj.html
(Additional information from the Administrator of Mission San José - apologies for any duplication of information from above:)
MISSION SAN JOSE
Mission San Jose was founded June 11, 1797 by Father Fermin Francisco de Lasuen on a site which was part of a natural highway by way of the Livermore Valley to the San Juaquin Valley. It is the fourteenth of the 21 Spanish Missions in Alta California. They were founded to secure Spain's claim to this land and to teach the native people Christianity and the Spanish way of life. 
The site chosen for the only mission on the east side of San Francisco Bay had been inhabited for countless generations - by the Ohlone Indians. Their village at this site was known as Orisom. The Ohlones lived close to the land in harmony with nature, taking what they needed for their sustenance but never wasting irreplaceable resources. What we could call ecology was a way of life for them. Their food included seeds, roots, berries, acorn meal, siall game and seafood. Three years after the founding of Mission San Jose, several hundred Ohlones had come to live at the Mission. They were introduced to a new way of life by the Spanish Franciscan missionaries. Thousand of cattle roamed the mission ranges. Acres of wheat and other crops were planted and harvested under the direction of the padres. 
The mission day began with Mass and morning prayers, followed by instruction of the natives in the teachings of the Catholic faith. After a generous (by era standards) breakfast of atole (porridge), the able bodied men and women of the mission were assigned their tasks for the day, The women were assigned to dressmaking, knitting, weaving, embroidering, laundering, and cooking. Some of the stronger girls would grind flour or carry adobe bricks (weighing 55 lbs. each) to the men engaged in building. 
The men did a variety of jobs, having learned from the missionaries how to plow, sow, irrigate, cultivate, reap, thresh, and glean. In addition, they were taught to build adobe houses, tan leather hides, shear sheep, weave rungs and clothing from wool, make ropes, soap, paint, and other useful articles. 
The work day was six hours, interrupted by dinner and a two-hour siesta, and ending with supper and social activities. About 90 days of the year were religious or civil holidays, free from manual labor. 
Mission San Jose was the center of industry and agriculture. The site was chosen for the abundance of natural resources of the area including water, fertile ground, stones, and Adobe soil suitable for building. In 1810, it produced 4,070 bushels of wheat and much produce, including grapes, olives, and figs. In 1832, the mission's l2,000 cattle, 13,000 horses, and 12,000 sheep roamed mission lands from present day Oakland to San Jose. 
The mission's permanent adobe church was dedicated with great ceremony April 22, 1809. Valuable gifts of vestments, sacred vessels, religious statues, and paintings attested to the generosity of friends of the mission in the Bay Area and abroad. The majority of vestments in our collection date from the late 18th and early 19th centuries. The silken fabrics and embroideries are products of various textile centers of the Spanish Empire. whose suppliers extended from Europe to Asia. 
In 1833, Mission San Jose was one of the most prosperous of all the California Missions. An inventory, of the time lists a church, monastery, guardhouse, guest house, and women's dormitory, in addition to the thousands of acres of crop and grazing land. This prosperity was not to last long. A decree of secularization by the Mexican government in 1834 removed the Missions from the administration of the padres and brought the mission system to an end. Jose de Jesus Vallejo was appointed civil administrator and the mission lands were divided into ranchos. The native people fled but found themselves unable to readjust to their former way of life. Many of them died of disease and starvation. The mission buildings, granaries, orchards, and gardens were allowed to decay. The great herds scattered. 
At the end of the Mexican War, in 1848, Alta California was ceded to the United States. During the Gold Rush, H.C. Smith converted the mission to a place of lodging and added a general store to the south end of the mission wing. The town of Misslon San Jose became a thriving provision center at the gateway to the southern mines. Names of many pioneer families prominent in early California history--Livermore, Peralta, Alviso--were closely linked to the Mission. 
In 1858, the United States government returned a small percentage of the mission lands to the Catholic Church. Ten years later, a giant earthquake centered on the Hayward fault shattered the walls of the mission church and broke open the roof. The site was cleared and a wood Gothic-style church was erected directly over the original red tiled mission floor. In 1890, a victorian rectory was built over the site of a portion of the adobe wing which housed the padres and served as the administration building the Mission period. 
The original mission complex consisted of over 100 adobe buildings. Restoration efforts by the Native Sons and Daughters of the Golden West in 1915 and 1950 saved the surviving portion of the mission wing and converted it into a museum set in gracious surroundings of flowers and palm trees. 
In 1956, the town of Mission San Jose incorporated with four others to become the City of Fremont. Plans to reconstruct the church of Mission San Jose were launched in 1973. The Victorian Rectory was relocated to nearby Anza Street and the Gothic wooden church was moved to San Mateo where it has been restored as a house of worship by an Anglican church group. 
After extensive archeological excavations and planning, construction began in 1982 on a replica of the 1809 adobe church. It was completed and rededicated on June 11, 1985. With its simple and forthright exterior, the mission church stands as a tribute to those whose efforts made this dream come true. The richly decorated interior follows the descriptions in the historic inventories of the 1830's when the church had been extensively decorated. The walls vary in thickness from 4 to 5 feet. The lumber used in the reconstruction has been given a hand-hewn appearance. Two of the original statues have been placed on the two side altars. "Ecce Homo" a figure of Christ clothed in a scarlet robe and crowned with thorns, stands on a balcony above one of the side altars. The other statue of St. Bonaventure was carved from wood, then painted. The original baptismal font of hammered copper on a turned wood base has been returned to the church as has the bell wheel used by the Ohlones during the sacred parts of the Mass. 
Old timbers and rawhide thongs demonstrate the practicality of the padres who, having no iron nails for building, substituted the leather laces. The crystal chandeliers are copies of period pieces similar to ones listed in the old church inventories. 
The reredos behind the main altar features a painting of Christ, a statue of St. Joseph (patron of this mission), and two carved figures: the dove represents the Holy Spirit and, at the top, God the Father with beautiful golden rays surrounding him. The altar and choir railings were copied from an original piece found in the museum during the reconstruction. 
The mission cemetery is to the side of the church where many pioneers of Mission San Jose are buried. During the archeological dig, the marble grave marker of Robert Livermore, was located in the original tile floor of the church. It was carefully repaired and replaced in the reconstructed church. Many prominent Spaniards are buried in the floor of the mission church but only Livermore's grave is marked. Thousands of Ohlones are resting in the Ohlone cemetery located about a quarter of a mile down Washington Blvd. from the mission. 
Three of the original mission bells were transferred from the destroyed adobe church to the wooden church of 1869, where they hung until the 1970's. A fourth bell had been given to a church in Oakland and recast, but was returned to the Mission during the reconstruction of the bell tower. Now all four bells are hung, ready to ring on special occasions. 
Further reconstruction of the missing part of the padres' living quarters and a restoration of the surviving adobe wing are part of the overall plans. 
The Mission Church and museum are open daily from 10 a.m. to 5 p.m. They are closed on New Year's Day, Easter Sunday, Thanksgiving Day, and Christmas Day. 
citation:  http://www.pressanykey.com/missions/msj.html
:Added section head today.  The above text dates from July 2005 (see page history).  There is a mysterious lack of discussion here.--Hjal (talk) 06:55, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: NOT "Mission San José de Guadalupe"

message: This discussion has been moved to Talk:Spanish missions in California. Mdhennessey (talk) 06:35, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why the prehistory of the native American peoples? 

message: I am doing some heavy editing of this article. I just cut out the following:   
By 1783, the mission boasted a population of 729 Indians, and grazed 900 cattle, 4,600 sheep, 327 horses and 8 mules. In the same year, the harvest of grain was 2,889 fanegas (about 220   
pounds each).    
I did this because it is impossible for any of these number to represent the cited year f 1783. I do not know the source, so if anyone does know the proper year, you can put these data back into the artcle. Middle Fork —Preceding unsigned comment added by Middle Fork (talk • contribs) 03:44, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: I HAVE FORGOTTEN HOW TO INTERACT ON THIS PAGE

message: Here is a photo done in the early 1860's before the Hayward earthquake.  This is how the original building looked.  If there is a place in the article please feel free to put in appropriate segment. Cmguy777 (talk) 05:51, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Photo missing or deleted. Cmguy777 (talk) 18:21, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The photo was deleted from WP for lack of an explanation of its copyright status.  See .  Since photos taken before 1923 are Public Domain, you shouldn't have any trouble putting it back up on Commons.  It seems like such an image should be in the article.  Was it the one here ?--Hjal (talk) 08:18, 1 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo before earthquake 

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