Talk:Greco-Buddhism

message: "Intellectual influences in Asia
Through art and religion, the influence of Greco-Buddhism on the cultural make-up of East Asian countries, especially China, Korea and Japan, may have extended further into the intellectual area.
At the same time as Greco-Buddhist art and Mahayana schools of thought such as Dhyana were transmitted to East Asia, central concepts of Hellenic culture such as virtue, excellence or quality may have been adopted by the cultures of Korea and Japan after a long diffusion among the Hellenized cities of Central Asia, to become a key part of their warrior and work ethics."
This may be partly true, but the idea of "virtue" and "excellence" in the pragmatic ethical sense was also present in pre-Buddhist classical Chinese thought ("ren" and "de"), thus it would be incorrect to suggest that East Asians had no concept of "virtue" before the spread of Mahayana Buddhism in the region.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.11.179.80 (talk) 14:58, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Philosophical Influences in East Asia

message: Isn't the term 'Gandhara' the same thing as 'Greco-Buddhist', refering to this type of art?   Coult the title of this article be "Gandharan Art"?  Or is Gandharan a subcategory or different type of art?  If so, perhaps the word should be mentioned in the article.--DanielCD 20:01, 1 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gandhara 

message: Reading the section about Chandragupta Maurya, one gets the distinct impression that it was written by someone with an overt interest in claiming the Mauryan Empire as a result of "Persian" influences. Chandragupta is described as of Iranian Zoroastrian heritage, whereas this is nowhere to be found in the main article about Chandragupta. The same goes with the references to the "largely Persian" army Chandragupta used to conquer Magadha, and the rearrangement of Mauryan society according to Persian customs. The main article about the emperor has almost no references to substantial Persian, Iranian, or Zoroastrian influences in the founding of the Mauryan Empire. More than one section of this article appears to bear the hallmarks of a nationalistic editor attempting to claim yet another famous classical empire as the result of Iran's cultural and political legacy in the world, and thereby claim the credit for, in this case, the Mauryan Empire's real or imagined glories or achievements. --66.93.216.22 (talk) 19:45, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Pro-Iranian bias

message: The favoring of the view of Christ being a non-existent re-personification of Buddha on the Christianity and Buddhism page is a rather disturbing one.  The only source is one run directly by a group that condemns Christianity based on the practices of some, but not all of Christians.  The fact is that most.
I feel that there is plenty of evidence to back up Christ's existence.
Additional discussion of the second viewpoint that Christ was a Buddha, the resources for this are thin online and it would be very useful if people knowing reliable sources could get them listed.
Other Christian Saints have displayed properties of enlightenment as well.
The best example of such enlightenment by a Christian is St Francis of Assisi who's life is well documented.  The Wikipedia article can be referenced for that.
Other items to reference is the difference in definition of various words between Christian and Buddhist doctrines and how this has caused a large amount of misunderstanding and prejudice.
71.55.58.112 09:46, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the point being made in the article is that not everyone believes that there was a historic Christ, and that there is some evidence to point towards that belief. I don't think that there is a problem with neutrality in this section, since it doesn't say that people who believe in a historical Christ figure are wrong, it rather points out that there are clear similarities between some aspects of early Buddhism and Christianity. Since this article was reviewed and deemed to be featured article status, I am going to remove the neutrality warning tag, but I'm fully open to a discussion about this. Tev 17:32, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christianity and Buddhism 

message: Alexander conquered all that was the (1st Persian) Achaemenid Empire he extended the lands of the new Hellenistic Empire by about an extra 10% beyond the Persians. So it was basically Greece plus Persia and a few outlying lands in Central Asia and Baluchistan. Asia minor was only a minor part of Darius III's (or really his vizer Bagoas') Achaemenid Empire. -Kain Nihil 09:20, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Replaced Asia Minor with Achaemenid Empire

message: It's inappropriate to use those terms to describe Buddhism/Buddhist culture and Greek religion/Greek culture, given the historical setting.  Such a simple dichotomy of humanity at this period in history is especially immature.  The origins of the cultures are geographically close to each other, and indeed were bridged by the Persians for centuries before.  While Greek thought forms the basis of the Western tradition as understood today, and Buddhist thought is a popular counterexample for the Eastern tradition, at best the individuals of that time certainly weren't aware that was the case.  As the article properly shows, each culture's development informed the other.  I recommend replacing each incidence of "east" or "west" with a more precise & less historically lazy term. Ryanluck (talk) 07:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  'East' & 'West' 

message: Should use instead one of the coins which has "BODDO" on it in Greek letters... AnonMoos (talk) 16:12, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's one. Cheers Per Honor et Gloria Talk 20:43, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the "BODDO" because the vast majority of English-speakers aren't going to be able to read any ancient inscriptions in Indic languages, and woudn't find most ancient Greek coin inscriptions to be at all clearly understandable -- yet "BODDO" is very easy to read, and has a simple meaning that doesn't require much explanation ("BODDO"=Buddha).  It's visually striking evidence for ancient Mediterranean-Indian connections... AnonMoos (talk) 22:52, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Coin images

message: So political islam dot com:
*Has as its tagline "POLITICAL ISLAM HAS SUBJUGATED CIVILIZATIONS FOR 1,400 YEARS"
*Is written by a man with a PhD in physics and math
*Is therefore not WP:RS for the historiography of Islam
* To boot, he is clearly and obviously biased against Islam.
What a load of complete bollocks. He is not a scholar, he is hack who needs to stay in his lane. And we definitely don't need to cite him for the history of Greco-Buddhism. We seriously can't find an alternate cite than a man whose magical maths discovered the truth of how Islam is "not constructed on the same civilizational principles as the rest of the world"? Ogress smash! 01:42, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly.  JimRenge (talk) 01:53, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: ... so why did you restore his cite? Wait, now I am super confused because I reverted his edits and your cite reverted mine... Ogress smash! 02:26, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I hit the "restore this version" button before your edit but it took me more than 10 minutes before I began writing the edit summary [Reverted to revision 666711412 by Rupert loup (talk): Please see WP:VERIFY, WP:RS, WP:SPS. The source is a blog by Bill Warner who holds a PhD in physics] because I first read the "About the author" section  and a very entertaining article about his, hmm, "scientific method" ... :). So don´t be confused, I did not restore his cite.   JimRenge (talk) 09:54, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Politicalislam.com 

message: --S Khemadhammo (talk) 14:57, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  New source possibly valuable 

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message: The article title seem to be implying that greek philosophy influenced buddhism some how but the article clear fails to make a case for it, mostly the article implies some greeks became devotees and spread buddhism, this doesnt in any way reflect greek philosophical influence on buddhism, there are also many iranian buddhists who actively took part in spread of buddhism, while these achievements can be mentioned in buddhism article, it should not be made into separate article which imposes some region centric article which seem to give false impression that somehow greek or persian philosophies influenced buddhism. i suggest this article to be either merged with greco-buddhist art, renamed as Buddhism in Gandhara region or should be deleted as it serves no purpose. Rameezraja001 (talk) 13:49, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: This isn't very coherent. The article is pretty clear as to what it covers. I realize any suggestion of European influence on India is anathema to you, but that's just your POV. Johnbod (talk) 14:03, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The article doesnt make any sense and should be either renamed to ''Buddhism in Gandhara region'', merged or deleted 

message: Both this article and Gandharan Buddhism essentially cover the same topic. It may be useful to create a single article. Please share your thoughts. (Unsigned, by User:KashKarti - PLEASE learn how to sign! Johnbod (talk) 02:43, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Are they the same? From what I gather, Greco-Buddhism developed in Bactria and Gandhara, which are two distinct regions. Information on Buddhism in Bactria seems sparse, so I admit I'm a bit at a loss here.  Invokingvajras (talk) 2:24, 11 November 2021 (UTC)

text: No, the scope of the two articles seems different, Gandharan Buddhism being more restricted geographically. पाटलिपुत्र Pat (talk) 21:03, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger with Gandharan Buddhism