Talk:History of the Internet/Archive 1

message: This is still woefully thin on early work on the Internet; I'll add some more soon. Also, there's a lot of replicated material on this page, and a number of others (e.g. e-mail, etc), and the whole area (about 20 pages all told, I reckon, along with packet datagram packet switching etc) all needs to be gone over and  rationalized. More soon... Noel 08:39, 24 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs more content

message: Is there anyone who knows computers and pedagogy who can make this article more approachable to those of us who are not so well-versed in computer technical language?  The article naturally uses lots of jargon.  But unfortunately it doesn't define most of them, and the links to the jargon pages usually lead the layman to... more jargon.  (See TCP/IP for a great example of this).  The history of the Internet is so important to our entire society.  The article needs to be more approachable to everyone. Fishal 23:17, 27 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I sympathize with your plaint, but I also want to make sure that the 'technical' history of the Internet is carefully and correctly told. The reason the jargon isn't explained is i) it would make the page a lot longer to do so here (as opposed to by reference), and ii) it would be duplicative of material elsewhere. Perhaps we need two pages, one a "technical history of the internet", and the other a "social history of the impact of the internet", or something? Noel 02:44, 4 Sep 2004 (UTC)

text: Well, I definitely would recommend Katie Hafner's book. It's written for the ordinary reader, but has all the technical details right. Of course, it's also book-length! Noel (talk) 15:07, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK thanks.  Perhaps I can read it and then use her style as an inspiration.  I really would like to know what, for example, TCP/IP is, because it clearly is a vital part of the story of the development of the Internet.  But unfortunately sentences like "The Internet protocol suite is the set of protocols that implement the protocol stack on which the Internet runs" are rather daunting to the outsider.  Well I'll find that book.  Fishal 16:39, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Approachability

message: Leonard Kleinrock's (sad) attempt to aggrandize his personal contributions is making its appearance here, I see. For more on this, see comments I'm about to post at Talk:Packet switching. Noel (talk) 15:07, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: There is now an extensive discussion of the issue in the article packet switching.  See what you think.--Carl Hewitt 02:18, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Kleinrock and Baran

message: Good article here: http://www.cs.ucsd.edu/users/goguen/courses/275f00/invented.html
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.4.119.29 (talk • contribs) 04:52, 15 November 2004
: Treat that with some salt - the writer has an ideological axe to grind. (See my comments above.) Noel (talk) 19:00, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Good article

message: Where is the history of applications on the internet? Many people may be interested in learning about the physical growth of the network, but what about the history of internet usage? The story of what people did with the internet from 1969 to present would be a very interesting one. Here's a hint: ftp, email, newsgroups, irc, instant messaging and the biggie: www (including browsing, search engines, blogging, wikis, syndication feeds, social bookmarking). Jeff schiller 20:46, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of these already have separate articles, giving the history in detail (I recall working on the email one at some point - I'll have to go check it and see how badly the amateurs/noobs have screwed it up since then). A section here giving a brief history, with links to the appropriate articles, would not be amiss. As to why it's not here - hey, dude, it's a Wiki - get busy! :-) Noel (talk) 16:35, 16 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is This Article Only Half There?