Talk:Ko shogi

message: Hey JT, 
Since the English names for these pieces are still up in the air, it might be a good idea to include the kanji every time a piece is mentioned. Even for readers who know not a single character, that might help them identify a piece if the English name no longer matches. kwami 10:02, 2005 September 10 (UTC)
Looks like there's more to the game. The poison flame, for example, moves just like its unpromoted counterpart (like a copper general); what it gains is a fire demon's burn. Other pieces lose their promotion in certain circumstances. I'll try to get to this. kwami 10:20, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: All movements verified per Japanese wiki. I've asked a couple people for help in translating the names; so far no response. The translations on the English-language site in the references are completely off. kwami 01:47, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Early talk

message: I linked to this in "Did you know" on the portal. Fg2 12:00, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portal 

message: QUESTION 1
If the General has been captured and the game continuing with the unpromoted Middle army and Banner, what happens when the Banner promotes? I can see three possibilities:
:a) promotion of the Banner would be a suicide move if the player did not have a General or Governor;
:b) the game would continue, but the opposing side could only win by capturing the Middle Army; capture of the promoted Banner (Roaming Assault) would NOT end the game even if the Middle army had not promoted;
:c) the promoted Banner would act in this regard the same as the unpromoted Banner: whilst the Middle army remained unpromoted the opposing side can win by capturing the Banner whether in its promoted or unpromoted form;
-Which of these alternatives is correct?
::Good question. The Japanese article only states that you can loose your general as long as you have your middle troop and banner, or else a governor. If I had to guess I would say (c), but that's only a guess. kwami
QUESTION 2
Similarly, do the pawns still have the ability to move forwards if the Drums promotes, and does capture of the promoted Drums stop forward movement by the pawns?
(Posted by MJW)
::Japanese wiki says that if the drum dies, the pawns can no longer move forward. It says nothing about what happens if the drum promotes or the promoted drum dies. 
::Good questions to keep in mind. Maybe the primary references answer these questions, but I don't have access to them. kwami 02:29, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: more questions

message: Concerning some recent edits, the PU appears center and right in Japanese wiki and at History of Chess. (It appears they made a copy error in the html chart, but the two images agree with Japanese wikipedia.) kwami (talk) 19:21, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that was an error on our part. kwami (talk) 23:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  歩総 

message: I have serious doubt on Igui-ability for Cavalry:
    * Double jump with double capture: The cavalry jumps once or twice as a horse soldier in a single turn, potentially capturing two pieces.
          o If it jumps twice, both jumps must be in the same orthogonal direction (both forwards, backwards, to the left, or to the right). That is, after the cavalry makes its first jump, it is restricted to only two landing squares for its second jump, similar to the restriction of a knight in other shogi variants. Or,
          o For its second jump, it may return to its starting point. This gives the cavalry a power of igui and passing a turn similar to that of the sumo wrestler.
If the 2nd jump has the same orthogonal direction, it is true that they are only two landing squares for its second jump. The starting point is not among those two possible landing square at 2nd jump. Then igui and passing a turn are not possible.
The "KoShogi revised b.txt" document available on Yahoo ShogiVar group, authored by Gregory Sears,L. Lynn Smith and Lex Kraaijeveld,
clearly says:
"It cannot return to its starting point during the move. " 
I suggest to correct this page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cazaux (talk • contribs) 20:21, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's A or B, not B as an example of A. Japanese wiki explicitly allows igui: 八方向に桂馬飛びした後 (after jumping in one of the 8 directions), さらに縦横の同じ方向に桂馬飛びするか (either jump again in the same direction) 元の位置に戻れる (or return to the original location). kwami (talk) 00:09, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cavalry 

message: Do Taoist Priest and Spiritual Monks have the same restrictions as bows regarding Shields, Shield Units, etc.?--TKR101010 (talk) 21:39, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taoist Priest/Spiritual Monk 

message: Hi, it is written that step movers promote on the spot when they capture a sumo wrestler 力士, dragon ascending 龍驤, roaming assault 招揺 or thunderclap 霹靂. A cannon 砲 is a step mover, does it promote on the spot if it shoots such a piece?
UseresuUK (talk) 22:47, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Would say yes; after all, isn't shooting a form of capture? Double sharp (talk) 14:27, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you. I was asking because TKR101010 (talk) posted on BoardGameGeek a game he played  (the list of the moves) where he shoots a sumo wrestler 力士 with a cannon 砲 without promoting it (still used as a cannon 砲 afterwards, with diagonal moves). Maybe an oversight? UseresuUK (talk) 15:10, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The rules of these large-board games often seem to assume a level of common sense that is not at all obvious to those of us who haven't seen them played.  Basically, they're poorly written.  If you take them to be literally true you get some odd and surely unintended consequences, but if you don't you can't answer many questions like this one.  In many cases we're going to end up realizing that the answers are not found in the written rules and we'll simply have to invent them. — kwami (talk) 01:44, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promotions on the spot 

message: The text says: "Limited range: The chariot of the gods can move up to five free intersections along one of the four ORTHOGONAL directions." But the diagram shows the four DIAGONAL directions.
Which one is correct?
Thanks.
Cazaux (talk) 21:41, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: According to WP-ja, both diagram and description, it's orthogonal.  Probably my mistake. — kwami (talk) 22:33, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chariot of the Gods