Talk:Steven Brust

message: in book yendi, vlad meets morrolan and sethra for the first time
on pg 5 of book dragon is a letter from morrolan to vlad stating "you expressed a preferance for a formal invitation over our last method of asking for ur help"
hence book 2 is yendi and book 3 is dragon!!
41.133.225.207 (talk) borgrel  —Preceding undated comment added 08:41, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know about the chronology order, but you're incorrect about Yendi. Vlad meets Sethra and Morrolan for the first time in Taltos (they hire him to rescue Aliera). In Yendi he already knows them (and Aliera). Speaking of chronology, since an effort is being made to track when certain passages occur it might be interesting to note that the prologue for Jhereg actually takes place in the middle of the earliest narrative in Taltos. Justin Bacon (talk) 22:46, 20 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Chronological order incorrect

message: By my count, five of the nine Vlad novels have straightforward first-person narration by Vlad (Jhereg, Yendi, Teckla, Phoenix, and Issola), so it seems like an exaggeration to say that "almost all" these novels are written in different styles.  Or am I missing something?  --JerryFriedman 01:53, 20 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Styles

message: Brust's weblog appears broken today. I have never been to his site before and I was wondering if he still keeps it, or if the weblog has been down for some time (in which case we should change the article to reflect he no longer is a blogger)? Kit 19:10, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weblog defunct? 

message: His latest book Dzur comes out 8-August-2006; it is already available for ordering.  This can be verified on Amazon.com.  Since I know that anyone looking in here is a fan of Steven's... I'll update the other neat thing about DZUR as soon as it posts officially.  Then you won't have to take my word for it.
I put this note up because I should like the year for DZUR to stay up.  Please stop taking it down.  Thanks!  - Chica
:Hi Chica. I altered the article to include the actual date and a link to the Amazon page for a source, so no one will question the date. I will keep an eye on things here for you, too. I can hardly wait for Dzur! Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 17:30, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since Dzur is out now, I changed the article to list only the year, in harmony with the other listed titles. Since the article has been updated to reflect the book's release, this shouldn't cause any confusion. --Gavia immer 18:38, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

text: That press release looks quite old. As to sourcing, first off I am looking at a copy of the dust jacket right now and it has the logo. The cover shown on Amazon has the logo as well. Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 07:07, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  DZUR 

message: Those are all the anthologies I know of.  If any of the stories got reprinted, then I missed the reprints.  Same applies to anything printed in other magazines.
- Chica
Mrm.  I'll probably erase this subsection of Discussion after 9-30-06.
=Chica= 08:41, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Short stories added & other news 

message: First, Steve IS ambivalent, which is why I listed it as dubious honor.  :>
Second, I would NOT use the dates from the *original* link I appended for the nominations.  I have found the ISFDB site to be exceptionally bad about correct dates.  I do know that the Nebula nominee is actual; but they list the actual story twice (because they can't spell and they didn't bother to look up the story itself).  Otherwise, I trusted them about awards.  :/ 
(In fact, checking back on Locus itself, I find absolutely NO mention of Steve being nominated for a Hugo.  Farathoom! and similar oaths.  Half of the dates listed are wrong or show nothing.)
=Chica= 21:50, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  (dubious honors) 

message: Can we mention in the article that Devera [edit].   Not sure if it's too much of a spoiler..?   :)
-- Hallo, anonymous one.  (I post without a Wiki-ID as well; I'm not heckling.)  No, I wouldn't mention that.  Let people read.  Anything regarding Devera is better left to the reader's own discovery.  Much of Steve's style relies on his masterful sleight-of-hand.  Remember:  The more is told beforehand, the less to discover - and what fun is that?  
What you're thinking about is the sort of detail that fans share between themselves.  Are you on the Dragaera mailing list?  Not to mention the many blogs, discussion groups, etc.  :]
- Chica
Heh - Good point. :)  Thanks for the guidance.  Have read & re-read Taltos, the first compendium many times, only to recently discover there are many more books in the series..  Yay!  Am looking at the list now..
- Gareth
My pleasure, Gareth.  Welcome!  Hope to see you on the list sometime.
- Chica
Devera sighting in Emma Bull's FALCON.  Per this website - http://mindstalk.net/brust/devfaq.html#sightings - and Will Shetterly confirmed this on Usenet.  :>  
Phoenix mentions that Devera's in F&N also.  I'm not good at catching sight of Devera myself, so I take it on faith.  For once I'll leave these tidbits here and let someone else take care of 'em.
=Chica= 00:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Devera 

message: Back before I had a login-id, I sat down and typed all the nicknames in.  I began with the interview that lists them all.  
Now, I suspect that someone took it as vandalism.  'Cause it's not even in history.  So I made a much shorter version.  Same topic.  
I think it's neat that he makes those up.  :>  It also explains CSN [The Sun, the Moon...] to me.
=Chica= 15:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added nicknames; also, subcategories 

message: I added more to the paragraph on Brust's appearance in Excalibur, since he was in two issues rather than just one, but on second thought, maybe that's more detail than is really needed?  It could be trimmed and the excess moved to Cats Laughing if it's out of balance. —Celithemis 06:58, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the Biography Wikiproject wound up scrapping the idea of ranking articles by importance anyway.  There are probably lots of articles still tagged with a blank "importance" attribute, but it's just a leftover and doesn't do anything.  I've removed it and added the appropriate workgroup. —Celithemis 05:15, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  S. K. Z. Brust, drummer to superheroes 

message: Why is Wikisource linked? There are no quotes by/about Brust in it. Perhaps either quotes should be added or the link removed?
*A Dream of Passion used to be there.  Think it got deleted as copyvio.  Wikibofh(talk) 22:48, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikisource 

message: I attended Opusfest 2006.  No Dragaera LARP occurred.  'Twas promised on both the Dragaera list and the Opusfest website - but life gets in the way of plans, unfortunately.  I haven't found citations nor info for other Dragaera LARPs. 
=Chica= 05:08, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: LARPs

message: Jhegaala's first draft now delivered.  Tor will announce formally when it will be released in hardcover...
http://skzbrust.livejournal.com/51748.html
http://nielsenhayden.com/makinglight/archives/009150.html#009150
=Chica= 06:08, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Newest book

message: Steven Brust's new blog is at http://dreamcafe.com/words/
You can find reference to it here in Steve's LJ, and a mention of it here on his homepage.
As this will be one of Steve's main online presences, it should be added to the article. As one of the other authors of this blog, however, I believe it would be a conflict of interest to add it to the article myself. Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 12:37, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New blog 

message: Per WP:MOSBIO, I have removed ethnicity from the lead sentence. This material would be better covered under a family background, ect section if one was added. An editor left me a note saying that Brust has been very vocal about his ethnicity, but is this the reason he is notable? Anyways, --Tom (talk) 19:27, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said elsewhere, I don't think that being of Hungarian descent makes him more or less notable - but Brust himself is pretty vocal about his ethnicity, and I don't see what benefit there is to omitting it from the lead. In particular, a lot of writing (the subject most people will care about when they read this biography) is obviously influenced by traditional Hungarian culture, so it isn't only a trivial matter of his parentage, it's an important fact. I'm not going to edit war over it, but I don't see the point of removing that information from the lead. — Gavia immer (talk) 20:44, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It really isn't about "benefit" either way, its about the MOSBIO guideline which says to leave ethnicity out of the lead unless it is or contributes to this person's notability. I honestly know zero about this person. If in fact(provide citations) this person's writing or songs or whatever have been influenced by his ethnicity, then it belongs in the lead and deserves mention. Is this the case here. I still don't know enough to make that determination. Again, ethnicity ideally belongs in an early life or family background type section. Hopefully others that intimately knowelgeable about this person can comment as well since it was more of a MOS type issue for this editor. Cheers, Tom (talk) 00:27, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  http://weread.com/author/Steven+Brust/2088714 http://us.macmillan.com/toreigninhell http://www.speakeasy.org/~mamandel/Cracks-and-Shards/names.html#Eastern  Names, book titles, fairy tales in his books, and recipes all draw heavily on Hungarian language and folklore. -- Mindstalk (talk) 22:00, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Ethnicity in lead sentence

message: Is this really encyclopedic content? I like the guy, I've even played poker with him; but this seems like fancruft of the fluffiest sort, and I believe should go. --Orange Mike  |  Talk 16:13, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title nicknames 

message: I find it inexcusable that this doesn't list the books in either series. Why? I'd suggest title, date of first publication, synopsis, and chronological order of events. The Vlad Taltos series is (perhaps arguably) Brust's most notable accomplishment, and clearly it should be enumerated here. 71.29.172.222 (talk) 19:51, 7 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Books 

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message: Types of mythological or fantastic beings in contemporary fiction is a page of, well, fantasy works (movie, TV, written, whatever) and the assorted mythological and/or fantastic critters they contain.  At least some of Brust's stuff would probably qualify.  Anyone care to add them? Tamtrible (talk) 10:14, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, done. —chaos5023 (talk) 15:26, 1 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anyone familiar with his books care to add them to this list? 

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