Talk:Shōrinjiryū Kenkōkan Karate

message: What is Shorinjiryu Kenkokan Karate? A Karate style? An academy? An organization? JoaoRicardo 04:38, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: This looks wikified already, but it lacks contexts. 

message: Unless karate is a proper noun here (and I don't think it is, but I could be wrong), it should be changed to lowercase in the title of the article, or removed entirely and explained in the opening. Dekimasu 14:43, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the style's registered name is Shorinjiryu Kenkokan Karatedo. It would probably be appropriate to move this article to that name? Desparoz (talk) 00:10, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article naming 

message: It appears that the contributor using the IP Addresses 166.64.3.2 and 166.64.1.2 is trying to drive a wedge between the "mainline" Shorinjiryu Kenkokan school and the various descendent schools. Whilst there have been various technical, organisational, and political reasons for the various separations over the years (as there are in all styles of martial arts), I don't believe it is correct to make the blanket statement that "These derivative schools and their founders and current chief instructors have diverted technically from the mainline Shorinjiryu kenkokan...". In fact, the teachings of the current headmaster have evolved significantly from those of the founder (the current headmaster's father). It is quite likely that the school and chief instructor that is technically closest to founder is the Shorinjiryu Kenyukai Watanabe-Ha school of Shunji Watanabe.
This is not to say that anything is wrong, or that one is better than the other. In fact, I hold Hisataka Sensei in the highest of esteem for his technical brilliance, and the contributions he has made to the development of budo and karate in general, and Shorinjiryu Kenkokan and Koshiki in particular. I also respect Watanabe Sensei highly for preserving the original teachings passed on to him. Having had the chance to study extensively with both, I am fortunate to be able to see important aspects of Shorinjiryu Kenkokan as it was originally taught by the founder, and how it has evolved. I am excited to be able to watch how it continues to evolve.
I don't believe that the wording of this statement is necessary. It appears to create conflict where none is necessary. Yes, there has been technical and organisational divergence in the various schools teaching Shorinjiryu Kenkokan. Some have maintained what was taught to them, so have added, some have changed. This is the nature of evolution in the martial arts, and it is an important part of ensuring the continuation of the style into the future.
Respecting that the anonymous contributor has best intentions of showing that there has been such evolution, I have changed the statement to read "Along with the mainline Shorinjiryu Kenkokan school, each of these descendent schools, their founders and current chief instructors have have continued to evolve organisationally, and in technique and teaching approaches. Some, such as the Shorinjiryu Kenyukai Watanabe-Ha school are relatively unchanged, while others have introduced new techniques, forms and training approaches. These descendent schools include:"  Desparoz (talk) 00:43, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Descendent Schools 

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