Talk:Human rights in Sri Lanka/Archive 1

message: Many have claimed these accuses were biased and specifically aimed to defame the Government.The riot it self had started as a direct anger against the Government and most of the initial targets were in fact Government buildings.Government declared curfew immediately and Police and the Army were out in the streets taking actions against the mobs.
Was removed per Wikipedia guidlines on sourcing of infomation, please provide proper citations. --Sharz 03:22, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: citation is given..Read the book written by a person who did many researches on 1983 riots and SL civil war.--Iwazaki 05:29, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: there seems to be a problem with the citations in this article..SO I will give you the descriptions of the book ..find it and read it . "The Cyanide War by Edgar O'Ballance. ISBN 0-08-036695-3"--Iwazaki 05:38, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unsourced Infomation

message: The killings on Black July have a wide range and a government commision is probably the most POV source but it is stated that it was a government study so it's allowable.
The citations that I have provided are all NPOV and all the links are working, I don't know why you couldn't acsess them when you did. 
http://www.uthr.org/Book/CHA09.htm#_Toc523692969 http://www.greenleft.org.au/2006/676/7680 http://archive.gulfnews.com/articles/06/11/23/10084648.html 
Deleting referanced infomation is a form of vandalism, please reframe from changing my legitimate edits lest you wish for an admin to be called into rectify the situation. --Sharz 07:18, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Black July Massacre

message: I have asked in ANI admin intervention to begin with to restore normality in editingRaveenS 18:41, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ANI

message: This is what I wrote :
The U.S State Department has reported that there were cases of unlawful killings by government agents, arbitrary arrest and detention, poor prison conditions, denial of fair public trial, discrimination against minorities, freedom of peaceful assembly and association. The report also pointed out that there were reported cases of denial of freedom of press by the Srilankan government
I shall now quote the citation: 
"unlawful killings by government agents " 
"Human rights organizations and other sources reported an increase in encounter killings by police. At year's end the Human Rights Commission (HRC) reported that police killed 25 individuals in police custody. The HRC determined that 20 of those individuals died as a result of torture in police custody during the year"
Above clearly states what I wrote for the unlawful killing. I am sorry but this is not Srilanka so we don't need to listen to what the SL government says. Clearly we agree that what the says HRC are wiki material.
Next 
"According to the HRC and other credible sources, the use of police torture to extract admissions and confessions was endemic and conducted with impunity. In addition the Emergency Regulations make confessions obtained under any circumstance, including by torture, sufficient to hold a person until the individual is brought to court; 1,798 arrests were made under the Emergency Regulations during the year, although 1,236 of those arrested were released within 12 hours. The majority of those arrested were Tamil, although detainees included Sinhalese and Muslims as well. In addition to suspicion of terrorism, people were detained for lack of identification, narcotics, and outstanding warrants"
"Prison conditions did not meet international standards due to acute overcrowding and lack of sanitary facilities. In some cases juveniles were not held separately from adults. Pretrial detainees were not held separately from those convicted."
As for the above being the "LTTE" here is the section on LTTE prison ---> "The ICRC conducted 22 visits to 3 LTTE-controlled prison facilities and 53 visits to 17 LTTE-operated police stations. Credible observers reported that conditions in these prisons were on par with local standards " 
So obviously they were talking about the Srilankan Government police station
"The law prohibits arbitrary arrest and detention; however, such incidents occurred. There were 1,798 arrests while the emergency regulations were active. The government stated that most of those arrested were released within a few days.
See word in bold. Specially MOST as this shows that not all were released and thats according to the srilankan government. 
 
"Despite the law calling for court proceedings and other legislation to be available in English, Sinhala, and Tamil, most court proceedings outside of Jaffna and the northern parts of the country were conducted in English or Sinhala, which, due to a shortage of court-appointed interpreters, restricted the ability of Tamil-speaking defendants to get a fair hearing"
"Few legal textbooks existed in Tamil, and the government had not complied with legislation requiring that all laws be gazetted and published in English, Sinhala, and Tamil. "
"In August 2004 the UN Human Rights Committee (UNHRC) found that Nallaratnam Singarasa's right to a fair trial had been violated when in 1993 he was tortured and forced to put his thumb print on a confession that he could not read. The UNHRC called for his release or retrial and gave the government 90 days to respond. On February 2, the government replied that the law does not provide for release or retrial after the conviction is affirmed by the high court. At year's end Singarasa remained in prison, and his legal team was preparing a fundamental rights case for the Supreme Court. 
In 2003 the Supreme Court convicted Tony Fernando on a contempt of court charge for both filing numerous motions before the court and for raising his voice. Fernando was sent to jail the same day only to be released more than eight months later. Fernando was never given the opportunity to consult a lawyer, prepare a defense, or file an appeal. On March 31, the UNHRC found that the government was in breach of its obligations under the International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights and ordered the government to enact legislative changes to ensure that similar violations did not occur again, as well as compensation for Fernando (see section 2.a.). At year's end the government had taken no action, and Fernando had yet to receive any compensation. "
"The government permits the continued existence of certain aspects of personal laws discriminating against women in regard to age of marriage, divorce, and devolution of property"
"On July 26, a senior defense correspondent for the Sunday Leader reported that President Chandrika Kumaratunga threatened to use the Official Secrets Act (OSA) against him for his critical reporting on government plans to purchase defense equipment from a foreign governme"
"Freedom of Peaceful Assembly and Association
On May 9, police and security forces fired into a crowd of rock-throwing protesters, killing 1 and injuring 15 in Batticaloa District. The estimated crowd of 500 was protesting the establishment of a new checkpoint. 
On June 10, police broke up a political protest in Colombo using tear gas, water cannons, and baton charges when protesters blockaded the presidential residence."
Discrimination against minority is :
"During the year there were at least 15 confirmed reports of assault on Protestant and Catholic churches and church members by Buddhist mobs, often led by Buddhist monks. Village police were reluctant to pursue Buddhist monk agitators out of deference for their position. On at least three occasions, police charged Christian clergy with breaching the peace by holding religious services. There were numerous reports during the year of police failing to act when given prior notice of church attacks, and to be slow to respond after they occurred"
"Both local and hill Tamils maintained that they suffered longstanding systematic discrimination in university education, government employment, and in other matters controlled by the government. According to HRC, Tamils also experienced discrimination in housing."
So the above justifies my point. I don't really know why people would try to sensor the truth. Watchdogb 23:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proof of my edits

message: I will only concern myself with the blatant blanking of the State Department source, in an overt attempt to hide the truth and the skeletons of the Sri Lankan Government's closet. It gives me vague confort in the knowledge that at least peoples are ashamed at what has happened enough to attempt to hide it. 
"The U.S State Department has reported that there were cases of unlawful killings by government agents, arbitrary arrest and detention, poor prison conditions, denial of fair public trial, discrimination against minorities, freedom of peaceful assembly and association. The report also pointed out that there were reported cases of denial of freedom of press by the Srilankan government   
-  http://www.state.gov/g/drl/rls/hrrpt/2005/61711.htm]."
- What was removed continously by Users Lahiru_k and Iwazaki. Cited reason was, that there was a perceived contortion of the words of the U.S State Department source. 
I then quote from the citation that is provided.
"The emergency regulations, which remained in effect at year's end, permit arrests without warrant and nonaccountable detentions for up to 12 months. The following human rights problems were reported: 
*unlawful killings by government agents 
*high-profile killings by unknown actors 
*politically motivated killings by paramilitary forces and the LTTE 
*disappearances 
*arbitrary arrest and detention 
*torture 
*poor prison conditions 
*denial of fair public trial 
*government corruption and lack of transparency 
*infringement of religious freedom 
*infringement of freedom of movement 
*discrimination against minorities" 
From which, I derived my list, that the State Department has stated that the Government has been involed in unlawful killings, politcally motivated killings, disappearances, arbitary arrest and detention, torture, poor prison confitions, denial of fair public trial, copruiton and lack of tranparency, infringment of religous freedom, infringement of freedom of movement and discrimination against minorties". 
Some have accused me of being impartialy in my translation of the source, however, this section concerns the GOVERNMENT'S abuses and negligence of Human Rights, so deal with it. Why do you think I did not include "high-profile killings by unkown actors".
I doubt this message will get a reply, seeing as the POV has been pushed and that is all that needs to be done now the article has been protected. --Sharz 04:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: State Department

message: Few minutes of google search led to the finding of following links.They Give a clear picture of the actual situation. 
Iwazaki  会話。討論 17:45, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
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