Talk:Oleg Deripaska

message: He also owns Queek K a megayacht. I don't know how to add it though. (83.143.248.21 (talk) 13:31, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Meaningless, one can be British, French, Russian or whatever and still be Jewish! 'Official biographies' are obviously going to downplay the fact that he is Jewish. All the Jewish-Russian oligarchs try to downplay their Jewishness, as that would make them even more hated in Russia than the rest of the oligarchs already are. How do you think they made their billions - by buying up shares issued to the everyday Russian workers who, being products of the Soviet Union and having not an inkling of the basics of capitalism, sold them for as little as a bottle of Vodka, often to educated Russian Jews, who, by virtue of their far greater connections with the USA, Israel, the UK etc (countries in which many of their relatives live) did understand capitalism. It is no coincidence that Abramovich and this delightful character are such good buddies! Btw im not a nazi and am NOT saying there is a world wide zionist conspiracy. 82.36.25.12 (talk) 13:09, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
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message: According to CNN today, he's lost $16b in the crisis due to a slump in share prices. Malick78 (talk) 16:32, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good to hear. Criminals belong in jail not on luxury yachts. There must be more info somewhere about his activities in the Yeltsin era, which would make for a far more interesting article than the white-ish wash presented here, as there is no way an individual goes from being skint to owning 20-30% of a huge Aluminium plant in the space of one year without either connections or some criminal activities. Also, it would be interesting to know when he married Polina Yumachev. Anyone? 82.36.25.12 (talk) 13:31, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Crisis

message: It's slightly concerning to see that an editor (whose sole contribution to Wikipedia is repeated editing of this article) deleted, without comment, a paragraph which gave an accurate account of the July 2008 stage of the Cherney v Deripaska litigation and replaced it, without comment, by an earlier edition which (a) was demonstrably inaccurate in its description of the remedies sought (and even in minor points such as its failure to recognise that there is no "British High Court") and (b) gives the reader no idea of what, in the following paragraph, the spokesman for Deripaska was criticising or complaining about. I don't wish to suggest that this section is incapable of improvement, but 'improvement' is to be distinguished from PR. Please note that the substance of the paragraph in question, now again replaced, is taken from the decision itself, and FWIW is protected from any claim for defamation because it is protected by absolute privilege. ariwara (talk) 19:58, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Lawsuits

message: This section has been reverted to a misleading version for the fourth time, with no justification or comment being offered. Just to keep them on the record, these are the two competing versions at present:
(1) Ariwara:"On July 3, 2008, in the English High Court, Mr Justice Christopher Clarke held in a lengthy opinion that Cherney had the right to seek in the English courts declarations against Deripaska to give effect to Cherney's trust claims, an order that Deripaska sell or procure the sale of 20% of Rusal and 13.2% of UCR and account to him for the proceeds, and damages (a total claim value of about $4.35 billion).He rejected an argument that the English court was not a proper venue for these claims, holding that in the Russian courts (where Deripaska said any such claims should be heard) "it appears to be common ground between the experts that, in certain cases, the arbitrazh courts cannot necessarily be expected to perform their task fairly and impartially. [Deripaska's expert witness] characterizes that as only applicable in a case whose outcome will affect the direct and material strategic interest of the Russian state..." (paragraph 239) and that "Mr Deripaska has held himself out as having a link with the Russian State that borders on the umbilical" in reaching a decision that there was a "significant risk of improper government interference if Mr Cherney were to bring the present claims in Russia, where they would be very high profile proceedings indeed, such that substantial justice may not be done to him if he is required to proceed there" (paragraph 248). Accordingly, he held, the English court was not forum non conveniens. The court's decision was published by  BAILII." followed by "the court granted Deripaska leave to appeal".
(2) Nightmute: "On July 3, 2008, British High Court Judge Christopher Clarke ruled that the case can be tried in England despite his own conclusion that "the natural forum for this litigation is Russia"." followed by "Judge Christopher Clarke granted leave to appeal to Deripaska".
Now, clearly there are differences of substance here, and it will be noted that while the first is fully referenced with an impeccable citation the second wrenches a short quotation (from paragraph 254 of the judgment) out of its context. The interest of the decision, for the purposes of this article, is not the 'first stage' test of a forum non conveniens argument (what is the natural forum)but the second stage (reasons why, on the facts, the natural forum should not be deferred to). We may also note the casual indications that the author of the second version does not understand the issue: such as the reference to the "British High Court", when this was a case in the High Court of England & Wales (and yes, there is a difference between English and British) and the repeated reference to "Judge Christopher Clarke" as if he sat in the district court. There are further problems, such as the use of a dead link for Deripaska's criticisms of the judgment (which do not indeed make sense unless the judgment itself is quoted). 
While the first version could be improved, and suggestions are welcomed, there seems little point so long as it is repeatedly deleted to be substituted by PR-speak. ariwara (talk) 10:24, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Lawsuits and repeated reversions

message: The United States revoked an entry visa of Deripaska. The Wall Street Journal tied the entry ban to what it called concerns that Deripaska may have ties to organized crime in Russia, citing U.S. law enforcement officials. The Wall Street Journal states that the F.B.I. allowed Deripaska to visit the U.S. in 2009 only after having come to a secret agreement that is believed to be that Deripaska must cooperate with the F.B.I. giving the agency information on organized crime in Russia and stating the details of his visits in return to having limited access to the U.S.
Whitewashing...
When did they revoke this visa and why? Who revoked it? Has this guy ever been charged with any thing? Off2riorob (talk) 20:49, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't decide what Reuters or WSJ reports. We do add their credible reporting to bios.Moscowrussia (talk) 20:54, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  alleged ties to organized crime 

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message: Time for a new section.--Wikipietime (talk) 14:11, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
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message: Every time I revisit this article I see someone has removed the reference to him being an oligarch and changed it to "businessman." Oligarch is much more accurate and is the term used to describe him by reliable sources. The term is not defamatory. Considering the "close contributor" template added to an article on a high-profile subject, I think it's important we get this resolved and reconsider whether a contributor to this page should be given additional scrutiny. —МандичкаYO 😜 20:53, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I have made Russian oligarch an internal link, it seems fitting to give information about that in the ingress as the way ownership of state assets were transferred to a small number of persons is rather unique to that time in Russia. Ulflarsen (talk) 17:16, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you; the popup description of "oligarch" fits him to a tee. BMJ-pdx (talk) 14:34, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

text: I just replaced three instances of "the businessman" with "Deripaska".  That's completely neutral, whereas in their context, "the businessman" reeked of whitewash.  BMJ-pdx (talk) 14:03, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

text: Fun fact: The 21:44 (UTC), 2 September 2018 version introduces Deripaska as a "Russian businessman and philanthropist".  Whereas the word "oligarch" appears thirteen times in the References (contrast that with the version's Edit summary).  BMJ-pdx (talk) 14:34, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deripaska is an oligarch 

message: This is a man that profits off the death and diseases he inflicts on thousands of Russians living in the city of Norils. He makes his billions by making Russians pay with their health, and sits cozy overseas without regard to the city he pollutes. Disgusting. His involvement in the pollution of Norilsk must be mentioned as that is the source of his pilfered billions.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.27.24.151 (talk) 02:50, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norilsk  

message: According to former FBI agent Robyn Gritz cited in this section, "At the last minute, Secretary Clinton decided not to make the agreed-on statement."  However the article Disappearance of Robert Levinson says nothing about Clinton's decision to prevent what Gritz claims would have otherwise been the successful return of Levinson.  In fact it says that Clinton's successor had no luck in trying to get Levinson back from Iran.
This seems like a very important aspect of Levinson's disappearance.
Should Gritz's statement be added to the article on Levinson? Vaughan Pratt (talk) 01:26, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section: Assisted FBI with Rescue of Levinson 

message: add Oleg Deripaska-Linked Firm Was Raided for Undisclosed U.S. Inquiry October 18, 2019 X1\ (talk) 21:43, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terra Services Ltd 

message: To add to this article:  homes linked to Deripaska in New York and Washington, D.C. were raided by the FBI. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 05:01, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: To add to article

message: Moving this conversation from User:Nomoskedasticity's talk. I'll admit, the placement of 'jew' in the lead was probably inappropriate, but his ethnicity is not mentioned in the article as far as I know, which is why I left a mention in the article body. Sungodtemple (talk) 00:02, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @Sungodtemple: You gave Haaretz as the source of Deripaska being of Jewish heritage. Are there further reliable sources confirming his ethnic background? We're at WP are usually quite wary of publishing ethnicities of living people unless well sourced, but naturally if more sources confirm it, such information does have its place in an encyclopaedia. — kashmīrī TALK 16:15, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: At https://repository.upenn.edu/spice/vol13/iss1/5 doing a Ctrl+F for 'Oleg Deripaska' says he is a Russian Jew, although the source it cites does not directly say so. Sungodtemple (talk) 12:11, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: These sources do not provide any details. Other cited sources say his parent came from Cossacks. I would remove because significance of this is not clear. My very best wishes (talk) 02:48, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Russian-Jew" 

message: I added a "Clarification needed" note to "Deripaska's request" in the "Paul Manafort" section.  Does it refer to his willingness to testify before Congress?  That seems like the only possibility, but it should be more specific.  (BTW, I had to undo my first attempt, due to a mousographical error that submitted the change before I was done.)  BMJ-pdx (talk) 13:19, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification needed: "Deripaska's request" = willingness?

message: Please include the following paragraph in the "Career" section, it describes the private military company Redut (company), which is deployed in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, and heavily funded by Deripaska.
===Redut PMC===
Redut, also known as Redoubt or Redut-Antiterror and formerly known as "Shield", is a Russian Private Military and Security Company (PMSC) that is part of the "Antiterror-family". Redut consists of similarly named PMSCs which protect commercial operations of Russian companies. Redut is currently deployed by Russia in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, for which it was sanctioned. Several fighters of the group have been convicted of war crimes during the invasion.
Oleg Deripaska and Gennady Timchenko reportedly are major backers of the company. The PMC received armored personnel carriers, helmets, and protective vests from them. Zerbrxsler (talk) 14:41, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: a!rado는 더미입니다 (C✙T) 13:24, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

text: *Yes, it is exactly the issue. According to RS  he funds a private company to kill Ukrainians (this is 2023), while publicly declaring that he is opposed to the war. My very best wishes (talk) 00:22, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request to include leading role of funding Redut PMC 

message: Redut, also known as Redoubt or Redut-Antiterror and formerly known as "Shield", is a Russian Private Military and Security Company (PMSC) that is part of the "Antiterror-family". Redut consists of similarly named PMSCs which protect commercial operations of Russian companies. Redut is currently deployed by Russia in the Russian invasion of Ukraine, for which it was sanctioned. Several fighters of the group have been convicted of war crimes during the invasion.
Oleg Deripaska and Gennady Timchenko reportedly are major backers of the company. The PMC received armored personnel carriers, helmets, and protective vests from them. Zerbrxsler (talk) 14:41, 17 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: a!rado는 더미입니다 (C✙T) 13:24, 18 July 2023 (UTC)

text: *Yes, it is exactly the issue. According to RS  he funds a private company to kill Ukrainians (this is 2023), while publicly declaring that he is opposed to the war. My very best wishes (talk) 00:22, 9 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Redut PMC

message: It is wrongly given that Edward Bonham Carter helped Oleg. The reference news item indicates that this is actually Graham Bonham-Carter. Please change the name accordingly. Thanks! 128.232.195.97 (talk) 12:00, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Lightoil (talk) 05:51, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 18 September 2023 

message: From the Wikipedia article:
: In 2007, Rusal merged with SUAL Group and Glencore International AG to form UC Rusal, with Deripaska as chairman.
Please remove the incorrect statement above; the cited article correctly states that the initial board chairman at Rusal was Viktor Vekselberg.
Also, please restate the claim that Glencore merged into Rusal to instead state that Glencore contributed its aluminum and alumina assets to the new entity.
Xofg (talk) 18:28, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Deltaspace42 (talk • contribs) 14:49, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Extended-protected edit request on 26 November 2023 regarding role at Rusal