Talk:Contemporary R&B

message: "This combination of R&B style and hip hop rhythms was termed new jack swing, and was applied to artists such as Keith Sweat, Guy, Jodeci, Bell Biv DeVoe, and the popular late 1980s/early 1990s work of Michael Jackson"
R&B style? What part of R&B style? This could mean vocals, melodies, lyrics, rhythm, percussion etc. It's not specific. It's really confusing.--148.197.5.18 18:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not an expert of musical styles but to me it seems that this style has nothing to do with r&b, more like soul. Meaning it's more of a combination of soul and hip hop. 82.141.75.168 (talk) 00:14, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

text: Sorry, more like what's the difference between soul and r&b? Sounds quite the same, or maybe I've been told wrong way about which music is soul and which is r&b... 82.141.73.190 (talk) 12:37, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Badly written

message: Nice facts, probably needs to be a subcategory rather than an article.  Some things aren't clear - but it does define what contemporary R&B is about.  However additonal sources
may need to be added. 
Of the five I read regarding the genres of R&B/Soul - this is the best article so far.
Brown Eyed Soul - needs plenty of work...
Blue Eyed Soul - needs work....
Soul Music - Some questions need to be resolved...
Rhythm & Blues - Dubious list furnished....
Contemporary R&B - Good facts - just need very little work to make it a better article. 
Regarding the previous post.  A way to write it would be "Hip-Hop played a greater part in shaping the rhythms of contemporary R&B beginning in the late 80's with the "New Jack Swing." Mostly a creation of producer of Teddy Riley... It found its way through hits by Michael Jackson, Bell BivDeVoe, Jodeci, Keith Sweat, Boy George, Tony! Toni! Tone!, Guy and Blackstreet.
I wonder if this would be somewhat clearer.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.36.148.232 (talk) 06:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Good intentions, need to be rewritten with more verifications

message: Read the article again... Very accurate...
Don't see anybody questioning it...Good job with the re-write.
15:54, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Better!

message: I think it is a good idea if use Artists who have popularity in the USA and Worldwide and have actually shaped modern R&B, so please not add people like Darin Zanyar, who is not well known or has not made any cultural impact in the genre.  Caribbean1 (talk) 16:30, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Adding Artist Examples under the 2000s

message: Are you sure Neo soul ios a fusion genre and not a sub-genre of Contemporary R&B? Netrat_msk (talk) 12:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neo soul  

message: Britney Spears stands out as an obvious misfit in the 2000s category - many pop singers have made songs with some R&B influence, but this does not mean that they have made any genuine impact on the genre - it is much more a case of the genre influencing them - and therefore merit inclusion. All the other singers there just now seem pretty obvious. Redemption Face (talk) 19:03, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Lol 99.135.27.208 (talk) 23:33, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Artists

message: I added SWV to the best selling group list, somehow people always forget to mention them. I got the reference as well, they sold 27 MILLION ALBUMS AND SINGLES together so there isn't no need to erase this. Thanks!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.5.235.140 (talk) 13:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: ADDED SWV TO BEST SELLING GROUP

message: I propose removing all sales tables on this article, which has been endorsed here and here. — R2 02:34, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I second that emotion for the blatantly incorrect and misleading information  it gives. I refuse to believe that Rihanna is the 7th best selling contemporary artist, while artists like R. Kelly or Whitney Houston, Beyonce or Alicia Keys not even mentioned. The list is done on a whim, and I agree that it is totally ridiculous. Pretty soon, there will be edit wars regarding who has sold what and who should be ranked where. Orane (talk) 03:24, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This has already been indicated above. Almost like the article should be called "Best-selling Cont. R&B singers". Orane (talk) 03:27, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said on my talk page, the article should focus on the development of the genre itself. As long as the section was in place, I tried to keep if factual with proper sources, but I'm all for removing it altogether. Punk rock seems to be a perfect model on how the article should be shaped. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) 03:42, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Enough is enough, gone. — R2 04:07, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Good call. --Amalthea 08:02, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of sales figures 

message: I do not agree with that section. In addition to the reference not be verifiable in some countries, like Portugal, the section is written in a partial way, the user like a lot of  Beyoncé, whose principal genre is pop music... Vítor&R™ (Run This F* Town!) 03h22min de 10 de Setembro de 2009 (UTC)
:First, Beyonce's principle genre is contemporary R&B, not pop - like most R&B artists, her music has crossover appeal on the popular music charts. Second, I'm certainly not a fan of Beyonce or her music. Third, the source used is verifiable by wikipedia WP:RS standards. The Bookkeeper (of the Occult) — Preceding undated comment added 02:36, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "2000s" 

message: Referring to the use of auto-tune by R&B artists, the article claims Auto-tune became popular in the 80's after Zapp and Roger's single "Computer Love".  Auto-tune was only developed in the late 1990s. I believe 'Computer Love' uses a vocoder. --Ef80 (talk) 18:15, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Auto-tune 

message: I'd like the sources explicitly naming all variants of modern soul/sung hip hop "contemporary R&B" to be shown. That means I'd like to see sources proving "contemporary R&B" is actually a term, not a description. My concern is that most of the times I've encountered mentions of such music, it was termed "R&B", sometimes described as "mainstream R&B" or "modern R&B" but never named with a solid "contemporary R&B" term. -- Appletangerine un (talk) 11:56, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Because if it's not a term but a description, some serious renamings will follow -- Appletangerine un (talk) 11:57, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Article name

message: What exactly is the difference between 'contemporary r&b', 'r&b' and 'soul'? To me, they all sound somewhat same. The biggest difference I can find is the time when it was around. This should be covered somehow in the article. 82.141.127.50 (talk) 19:54, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Contemporary" R&B? 

message: Should contemporary r&b be a genre of pop music here is my source right here, read the first comment, thanks   
 http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20091218124628AAwbKlD
Beggsie221 (talk) 08:11, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Not a Reliable Source. Karst (talk) 15:31, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  It is the same as pop music 

message: I added more artists to the 2000's decade. Based upon the description of R&B and how it has evolved using newer less traditional sounds, it was clear more artists needed to be mentioned.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamorri7 (talk • contribs) 00:44, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Content 

message: I just wanted to draw attention to the lack of a section on this period. Why are we ignoring the first major decade of the genre? Huge artists like Luther Vandross, Atlantic Starr, Howard Hewett, and Alexander O'Neal etc., along with the sound characteristic of that period have been glossed over. 109.22.53.228 (talk) 22:03, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It's covered under the 1980s section at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rhythm_and_blues#1980s_to_present 2.31.164.69 (talk) 08:07, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  1980s? 

message: What are some examples of newer artists in 2017? Dizonkaylin (talk) 06:11, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  r&b in 2017 

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