Talk:L'Arrivée d'un train en gare de La Ciotat

message: Urban legends spreading wildly?! This film was NOT screened on december 28th 1895. It is NOT listed among the ten films on the programme, as it is correctly indicated on the Lumière page, and shown at the Lumière Institute's homepage. In the two reference books I'm using (Bernard Chardère: Les Lumière; Rittaud-Hutinet: Le Cinéma des origines) there is no date of the first screening of this film. In Rittaud-Hutinet is an illustration of the film, with the note: "Arrivée d'un train à La Ciotat - 653 - (Louis Lumière) (1896-1897)". While the press reports about the first screening in december mention only the films on the list, L'Arrivée en Gare is quoted by two eye witnesses who attended screenings in January 1896, in Paris and Lyon (Chardère, p.102 and 105). Both of them were children at that time and interviewed many years later, so it's not such a precise information - but January 1896 seems the best guess. 1904.CC 01:33, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  All Wrong!? 

message: Previously a link to the video on youtube was removed citing "no license stated". I've re-instated it. The film was created in 1895. It's well and truly in the public domain now, no matter where it is being displayed. -- Ch'marr 21:20, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Licensing 

message: help with something then let me correct this article´s heading. It correctly reads L´arrivée d´un train à la gare de la Ciotat. 80.219.135.11 10:49, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  If I May 

message: I've often seen this cited as the first cinema film ever screened to the public, although I have also heard that this is a popular misconception.  Can anyone confirm or deny this?  It seems highly relevant and worth adding to the article.  I've also noticed a distinct lack of reference to this film in other Wikipedia articles on the history of film.86.141.145.124 13:52, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a misconception: you can see the program of the Lumière's first screening here, and it doesn't include L'Arrivée d'un train en gare de La Ciotat. They started with Workers Leaving the Lumiere Factory. Skarioffszky 12:02, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: First Movie Ever?

message: The train only ever reaches the screen plane. Here is the 1935 film on YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BcvCeB4Vrh0 
You do not need 3D glasses to see that the train only ever reaches the screen plane - look at the left edge of frame at 21 seconds. What *does* appear to emerge from the screen are the passengers getting on and off the train after the train has stopped. 
Hard to imagine anyone panicking at the sight of this, particularly at a 1935 meeting of the French Academy of Science! - Karel Bata (talk) 11:43, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The train in the 3D version does NOT come out of the screen 

message: In the text it was mentioned two times that the camera could be used as a "developer", which is quite impossible. I corrected that in one spot, but the mistake can still be seen in the text accompanying the picture of the camera. I do not know yet how to edit that. Can somebody help, please? CustodianAtEYE (talk) 01:49, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Lumière camera had three functions: Camera, printer and projector with an additional lamphouse 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The .ogv file for this page is NOT the original film! The original film is indexed as Lumière No. 653 on the Internet Archive.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomkennyjapan (talk • contribs) 13:44, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  NOT the Original video 

message: I would remove it myself but a bot would just undo it. The content of the Cinematic Techniques section of the article is a complete ass-pull of trying to find as many filmmaking words it can claim were invented by this film completely out of context. A locked-down camera at a fixed angle pointed toward an approaching train from the safest location to do so is not what I would call “the invention of the ‘camera angle’” much less trying to reverse engineer short, medium, and long shots from it. There’s also no forced-perspective. I think the section is embarrassing and overwrought. It’s undeniably a hugely important historical artifact but trying to claim it invented the close-up is pure absurdity. I request a consensus be formed around its removal or re-writing using proper sources for analysis.
68.43.66.15 (talk) 01:29, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  “Cinematic Techniques” section is ridiculous