Talk:Ron Gostick

message: His obituary in the Globe and Mail says July 18 - July 16, and his entry here says July 22 -July 20. Which is correct? DS 02:24, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Lectures from the far right on dissimulation and free speech is rich indeed. Anyway, I added Lethbridge's party affiliation if that helps. Gostick was a provocative figure, and I don't think the reaction to his provocations is avoidable, which in this case comes more from the far left than anywhere, and is the basis of Gostick's notability.  Bobanny 20:03, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I am proposing that this article should be split, or more accurately that the redirect should be removed, so that there is a separate Ron Gostick article and a separate Canadian League of Rights article.--JHumphries (talk) 18:32, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Split Proposal

message: This is a smear, not an encyclopedia entry. What in fact is supposed to be meant by the term "far right"?
Why would you just automatically smear someone or something as "anti-semitic"?
Have you read any or all of their publications? Or are you just pandering to the real hate-mongers?   
Here's one of Pat Walsh's books, actually it's a pamphlet. it's online, 36 pages. You can read it for FREE on your lunch hour, then POST a real review here to explain whether or not it's "antisemitic" and/or "far right" (and define "antisemitic" and define "far right"), and give REASONS citing the contents of the book itself:
http://en.calameo.com/books/000747447aeee1319bc59
REASONS!  Not BLIND SMEAR.
Speaking for myself, I have read SEVERAL of the League's books, better called pamphlets, by PAT WALSH and ERIC D. BUTLER, introductions by Ron Gostick, and there is nothing "anti-semitic" in them.
That particular item (above) has a very interesting back page setting out the principles to which Members of their League adhere. 
Perhaps you'd consider creating a separate Wikipedia page on the Canadian League of Rights, and QUOTE the entire closing section and back page of that pamphlet from 1982. These men are all dead now, this is their voice speaking, this is how they viewed their League and their objectives. Perhaps instead of smearing them and putting "views" in their mouths which are not there in print, you could refer to exactly what they DID say, including about themselves and their objectives.
I'm not going to wait for you to do it, here it is, I'm copying directly from the back of their own publication, last page, back cover (page 36) from the book linked above:
"The objectives of the League
The Canadian League of Rights is a free association or movement of Canadians dedicated to the preservation of freedom and justice in Canada, and the defence of our Christian heritage. Members of the League pledge themselves to further the following aims and objectives:
    To promote loyalty to God, Family and Country.
    To defend our constitutional monarchy and Christian heritage.
    To work for the restoration of more responsible parliamentary government, and to oppose government-by-regulation.
    To encourage personal responsibility and individual initiative as essential to the preservation and expansion of personal freedom.
    To oppose monopoly, centralized power and bureaucracy in government and in every sphere of national life.
    To uphold national sovereignty and the ties of the Commonwealth, and to expose all forces operating against them.
    To strive for a genuine association of free and sovereign nations, co-operating for the wellbeing of all peoples.
    To oppose and expose every form of totalitarianism — be it ‘Nazism’ ‘Communism’ or any other’ism.’
MEMBERS of the Canadian League of Rights:—
• REJECT the materialistic concept that the individual can do nothing, that he is but flotsam drifting on the sea of history;
• BELIEVE that the individual does count; and further
• BELIEVE that the individual, calling upon God’s grace and guidance, can be more than a helpless victim of environment; that the individual, working in association with others of faith and courage — the dedicated minority — can help to shape and mould history, and make a constructive contribution to the future of this country.
CONCERNING GOVERNMENT: “It is not the legitimate role of government to do for people what they can and should do for themselves. The prime role of government should be to maintain law and order and the general conditions which encourage the exercise of personal initiative and responsibility by [word covered by bar code] in looking after their own welfare.
– Ron Gostick. National Director of the C.L.R."
Sounds like the kind of people I'd like to have for neighbours. Decent, law-abiding, God-loving, hard-working ordinary people who like their life and want to keep it that way.
These men just happen to be Christians opposed to atheistic Marxism and Jewish-founded materialistic, anti-family, anti-national communism, in particular in their own country founded for them by their Christian ancestors to be the permanent safeguard of their own FREEDOM, rights and culture. Marxism is organized slavery to the state which they do not wish as the future of their own people and children. Their attitude is almost Pioneer in character; the self-reliant character that built the west, including Canada. Nobody who built this country, including my grandparents and great-grandparents on both sides, had "welfare" waiting for them when they arrived. They had hard work waiting for them, and that's what they came for, not socialist Marxist state control and handouts.
These men are in particular opposed to having the public government of the country hijacked from the inside by spies, infiltrators and foreign powers determined to destroy their government, their country, their race, rights and culture. 
Presumably you would defend the right of Jews to their race, country and culture -- as well as their right to defend it; but for non-Jews to have the same rights is perhaps "anti-semitic" in your view? Because it just doesn't "agree" with the views of Jews about what all non-Jews should be, think and do?
There isn't a rude word or a racist word in I'd say five pamphlets of theirs that I've read. 
WHAT HAVE YOU WRITERS OF THIS GOSTICK PAGE READ FROM THE CANADIAN LEAGUE OF RIGHTS THAT IS "ANTI-SEMITIC", AND PLEASE PROVIDE THE EXTRACTS in support of your allegations of "anti-semitism" and explain what you mean by "far right".
Thank you.
P.S. Here's another one for you, it's online:
http://en.calameo.com/books/00011179074d7854a29cc
The Real Communist Menace by Eric D. Butler, a colleague of Gostick, Pat Walsh and the League, and highly recommended by them. Perhaps you could read the article and see if there is anything in it that is "far right" or "antisemitic" (but first provide definitions, thank you).
It's OCR'd over here:
http://nosnowinmoscow.com/eric-d-butler/the-real-communist-menace/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.114.82.126 (talk) 07:05, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gostick allegedly published "far right" and "antisemitic" material 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on Ron Gostick. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20060623045022/http://bnaibrith.ca:80/press0/pr-961211-35.htm to http://www.bnaibrith.ca/press0/pr-961211-35.htm
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 08:58, 12 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified