Talk:Gettysburg Cyclorama

message: Is the estimate quoted in the News and Observer article which contains information about the sale of the painting.  Please do not remove this sentance unless you have a source that refutes this figure, or some other compelling reason to do so.--Jayron32|talk|contribs 16:41, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ten Million Dollars

message: The News & Observer ran a detailed correction in Sunday's paper.  See http://www.newsobserver.com/308/story/571199.html.
CK Tracer22 16:51, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool.  I've been a bit behind, and haven't had the chance to read Sunday's paper.  Thanks for clarifying that.  I will add the reference to the article as well. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 17:22, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Correction in the same paper

message: I have reviewed this article according to the GA criteria. Please fix the following issues and I'll pass the article.
#"When the Boston exhibition closed, it was purchased by a Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, investor and moved to a location near the site of the battle, painting and supplemental materials included." Rewrite to "When the Boston exhibition closed, it was purchased along with the painting and supplemental materials by a Gettysburg, Pennsylvania investor who had it moved to a location near the site of the battle." or something to that effect.
##Done. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 02:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA on hold

message: : Note on #3: The Chicago Manual of Style, 15th Ed., states in http://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/cmosfaq.html "... there is a general rule of parity: anything that is set off from all or part of a sentence requires two commas, unless the word or phrase being set off is at the beginning or end of the sentence, in which case only one comma is required. Some analogous examples:
:: January 4, 1844, was a day like any other."
: That also applies to the proposed rewrite in #1. This may seem odd to readers of US newspapers and informal documents, but an encyclopedia uses more formal writing. By the way, I have a lot of additional material on the Cyclorama history, which I plan to add over the next few weeks. Hal Jespersen 14:53, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Any additional information with references would DEFINATELY help improve the article.  Please be bold and add it if you can.--Jayron32|talk|contribs 02:55, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional info?

message: Hey, just a quick question on the recent changes.  My source, the National Park Service website, says that the third version was on exhibition in Denver and was destroyed to make tents for Shoshone Indians.  This was recently changed to say that the third version was exhibited in Philly.  Which is right?  Or were they BOTH right (third version started in Philadelphia and ended up in Denver maybe?)  Something ain't right and we need to jive what these two sources say.  Any ideas or further information?  --Jayron32|talk|contribs 04:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My methodology on Wikipedia citations is to give precedence to published books (particularly the ones that have citations and references) over websites, newspapers, or magazines. This particular book comes from Thomas Publications, which specializes in historic work about Gettysburg, so I thought its information was credible. If you are confident of your source, I suppose both options could be included and footnoted appropriately to indicate the discrepancy. Hal Jespersen 15:00, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wrote the original text on the Denver exhibition, and it is based upon the NPS website. In checking with local park rangers here, they agree it is a fact. Scott Mingus 15:58, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that might be OK, except I would feel more comfortable if there was some source that clearly stated the chronology and included both Philly and Denver as sights for the third version exhibition.  I am still leary on making that jump.  After all, even though we hold both Hal's source and the NPS website to both be true, it still doesn't seem like enough to connect the two in that way.  After all, there may be something we are missing, and to state unequivocally that the exhibiton went from Philly to Denver to Tents is not backed up by the sources.  One source says it started in Philly.  Another says it spent time in Denver and ended up as Shoshone tents.  We have no idea what happened between these events, or even the order.  We only know the final event (tents).  Also, it isn't clear these are chronologically third and fourth.  The NPS site may be calling the fourth version "fourth" only because it is the least known; for all we know it may have been the Brooklyn version that ended up in Denver.  This definately needs some more research.  Any comments? --Jayron32|talk|contribs 04:29, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I think your concerns about the source discrepancies are admirable; I wish more Wikipedians shared your interest in citations. I am at about my limit of research capability on this topic in the short term. Scott, since you get to the 'Burg more frequently than I do nowadays, perhaps you can inquire along the lines Jayron is asking. I'll email Tim Smith to see if he knows any other secondary sources. Hal Jespersen 16:36, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I should thank you guys for helping to overhaul this article.  I rewrote when a blurb in a Raleigh, NC newspaper sent me on some research to learn more about it.  The article here was in a sorry state, it was a complete cut-and-paste job from the NPS website.  I rewrote it the best I could from whatever I could find on the net and in the local paper.  I am neither an art historian nor civil war buff, and I really exhausted my sources until you guys came along.  This is fast becoming a fantastic article.  If we can get that issue nailed down, it looks complete enough to get possibly to FA status.  Really.  I think if we can get the issue of the third and fourth versions relatively complete, peer review should be our next stop.  Keep working on this, but my role will have to be as an outside commentator, since you guys have the sources nailed down for this one.  If we can get a complete chronology in print for the third and fourth versions (unfortunately, "The guy at the Park said it was so" doesn't really fly as a reliable source) we have the makings of something really cool here. --Jayron32|talk|contribs 22:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  3rd version: Denver or Philadelphia? 

message: My wiki-fying abilities are pretty limited, so if someone else would like to edit and add the citations, that would be great. The new cyclorama exhibit at Gettysburg National Military Park will open to the public on September 26. Source: http://www.gettysburgfoundation.org/preserve/cyclorama_painting.html
Roulo42 (talk) 00:09, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cyclorama exhibit opening

message: I have reviewed this article as part of the GA Sweeps project.  I have found the article to be well written and still within the GA criteria.  I find that it still meets the GA criteria.  The only problem was that ref [3] is a dead link and should be repaired.  Otherwise it is fine and I will keep it as GA.  H1nkles (talk) 16:38, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that note.  The document that was the reference still exists, but was moved to a new URL at the same website.  I have updated the link and it works fine now.  --Jayron32.talk.contribs 19:05, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Reassessment 

message: Hello to all working this topic.  I have been researching a conventional book on the neighborhood in Brooklyn where this (the fourth and last) version of the Gettysburg Cycloramas was located in 1886.  I'm a novice at best on Wiki and will simply provide you all with the raw links to allow editing with your better understanding of the topic.  As I understand it, the Brooklyn Cyclorama was opened in Brooklyn on October 16, 1886 at the southeast corner of Joralemon and Court Streets (where the Municipal Building is today).  It shut down at that temporary location on August 6, 1887 and moved into Manhattan at the corner or Fourth Avenue and 19th Street for some time.  Things get murky after that, but there is an intriguing article on page 15 of the May 23, 1897 edition of the Brooklyn Eagle about Nashville stating in the text (far right column near the top) that they now had the original Brooklyn cyclorama.  This would correspond with the Tennessee Centennial Exposition linked to at the bottom.  Beyond that is a mystery.  If you use the first link below, it will take you to the Brooklyn Public Library's scanning site with the Brooklyn Eagle searchable from 1841-1902.  Type in the box the keywords     cyclorama gettysburg     and you will get 64 very interesting hits.  The New York Times is also searchable at the second link.
http://eagle.brooklynpubliclibrary.org/Default/Skins/BEagle/client.asp?skin=BEagle&GZ=T&AppName=2
www.nytimes.com
http://tsla-teva.state.tn.us/cdm4/centennial_about.php  
Syosset1966 (talk) 20:09, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Data Links to Info on the Brooklyn Gettysburg Cyclorama 

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