Talk:Paris Herouni

message: The article currently contains the following sentences: "The state of the art 50m radio-telescope antenna showed that there is no CMB present in the universe, thus big bang never happened. This is perfectly consistent with Penrose-Gurzadyan new theory that Big-Bang never happened and that the Universe oscillates infinitely."  The source cited is an article in the Economist.  Leaving aside for the moment the valid question of how much weight we should give the Economist as a reliable source for cosmology, the source doesn't say any such thing.  In fact, it describes claims based on mining WMAP and Boomerang data to study the properties of the CMB.  The article makes no mention of a 50-m ground-based telescope or any idea that the CMB doesn't exist.  For that matter, it doesn't mention Paris Herouni.  I'm removing the source as unrelated to the article, and these two sentences as implausible and unsupported.  --Amble (talk) 01:44, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Further: the claims about the CMB come from Herouni's article "Measured parameters of large antenna of ROT-54/2.6 tell about absence of Big Bang."  The link to the Economist seemed to be intended to tie this to the Penrose-Gurzadyan idea, which runs into a problem of WP:Synthesis.  We could consider restoring some mention of Herouni's own claims to have measured self-noise + sky lower than 2.7 K, but the problem is that we have only this one primary source.  I haven't been able to find any citations of this article (or even evidence that the NAS RA Reports are peer reviewed).  So about the most we can do is note that Herouni published such an article making such claims.  Even that would be questionable, since the one article we have is primarily a report on certain parameters of the telescope design, and doesn't really give enough information to evaluate the claims about CMB non-detection.  --Amble (talk) 16:00, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: No CMB?  Removing unsupported claims

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message: I corrected the article to not misrepresent Harouni's CMB paper.  The existing section summarized the paper as saying that Harouni measured the CMB at 2.6K, near to the usual temp of the CMB at that wavelength.  However, that's exactly not what Harouni said in the cited paper.  In case there's any way to misunderstand the paper, I opted to cite the section from the paper where the conclusion is reached.  I also linked to the telecope's own page and the CMB. Pablo Mayrgundter (talk) 14:41, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summary of CMB Paper