Talk:Monroe College

message: " You will not find it in, say, the U.S. News list of 1,400 colleges. You will not find its average SAT scores listed on its Web site or anywhere else (they're not required for admission), nor will you find lists of publications by the scholars on its faculty." http://nymag.com/news/business/bigmoney/58307/ New York Magazine article
24.213.177.78 (talk) 13:37, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promotional U.S. News references deleted 

message: The promotional sentences throughout the Athletics section need to be deleted or edited. 
"But the whole thrust of the promotion of schools like Monroe-down to its bragging about a "division one" baseball team (that's Division I in the junior college league, not the NCAA, though you wouldn't know it from Monroe's ads) is to obscure the distinctions between a Monroe and traditional nonprofit schools dedicated to higher education. This they do quite successfully: If CNN can't tell the difference, it's not a surprise that young entering students can't, either." http://nymag.com/news/business/bigmoney/58307/index1.html 
There is no reason to have such LONG sentences and TEN subsections(!) about Monroe's athletics.
24.213.177.78 (talk) 13:37, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Monroe_College#Athletics|Athletics]] section needs to be edited to be compatible with reality

message: @user:Krrose Would you be able to provide resources upon request? Just as an example, the first hit that came up in a Google Books search (I find books are almost always better sources than media) is this listing, which has some of good infobox-type data but Google Books only has the 2009 version of the book, whereas it says it's updated each year. 
When I brought Credit Suisse up to the "Good Article" rank, their PR staff provided images, books, corrections and other resources and I found it to be a good method of collaboration, much like you would support independent journalists, not try to write their articles for them.   CorporateM (Talk) 17:39, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Resources

message: @user:Justlettersandnumbers how's that? The sources seem to lean heavily against the plaintiff (the student) and are basically making fun of her (except for New York Magazine, which seems to identify itself as a fringe view, but had a lot of good critical information I added to the academics section). 
Stuff like this comment she said:
“They’re supposed to say, ‘I got this student, her attendance is good, her GPA is all right — can you interview this person?’ They’re not doing that,” she said.
That's a pretty dumb thing to say. I think us repeating it is embarrassing to her and not necessary for us to inform readers of the situation. I also didn't think it was necessary to call her by name, rather than just "an alumni" for BLP considerations. Our objectives as an encyclopedia trump privacy and humiliation concerns, but in this case it seemed pretty easy to avoid humiliating her while also serving the needs of our readers.
I've also gotten started adding mundane, sourced information. CorporateM (Talk) 18:37, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lawsuit 

message: This just popped up on my watchlist and I'm glad you reverted the recent edits. I didn't look at them closely enough to see that the edit-summary did not represent the actual edits. However, a small nit, I think this section looked ok to me. My understanding is that US News is considered one of the most significant and credible providers of academic ratings. The demographics of graduates seems to be one of those de-facto data-points for colleges. CorporateM (Talk) 19:59, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your comment, . That section contained three paragraphs; the first was (I believe) written by me, and sourced to Peterson's; I didn't remove it. I did remove the second, sourced to a "Q and A with Marc Jerome" in Black Star News; I can't see how that could possibly be considered a reliable source by our standards, but remain fully open to discussion. The third is simply not supported by the source cited, the U.S. News & World Report page on the college. What that page does say is that "Monroe College's ranking in the 2015 edition of Best Colleges is Regional Universities (North), Tier 2". What that appears to mean in practice is that it is not ranked – after the first 135 or so colleges (up to page 12 of the rankings), the remaining colleges are simply listed in alphabetical order. Monroe appears on page 15. I'd have no objection to that being included in the article if you think it appropriate; I agree that the source can be taken as mostly reliable, though some content is clearly just reprinted from college handouts. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:25, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for clarifying. I didn't realize the source didn't actually support the article-text. Must be one of those sneaky COI situations. Thanks for being more thorough than I was! I agree completely now that I have more context.  CorporateM (Talk) 21:28, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
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