Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musical Theatre/talkarchive01-05-08

message: * Hey!  Not doing much, lately.  Working a lot.  Monitoring.  Gnoming.  Etc.  —  MusicMaker5376 05:01, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  October Roll Call 

message: *I've done some work on the article about the Obie Award-winning play, A Very Merry Unauthorized Children's Scientology Pageant, and recently put it up for Peer Review, here:  Wikipedia:Peer review/A Very Merry Unauthorized Children's Scientology Pageant/archive1.  Any input, suggestions or advice on how to improve the article further as it moves towards a Featured Article Candidate and hopefully to being a Featured Article would be greatly appreciated.  If you think it is ready to go to WP:FAC in its present state, I'd like to hear that too.  Thanks.  Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 09:11, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Peer review/A Very Merry Unauthorized Children's Scientology Pageant/archive1|Peer Review requested]] 

message: There are separate articles for:
*High School Musical on Stage!; and
*High School Musical On Stage!.
They each have rather different information.  Can anyone straighten this out?  Best regards,  -- Ssilvers 17:33, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge Articles

message: This "fair use" image is up for deletion, as it has no source info.  It was uploaded by a blocked user.  Can anyone save it?  Best regards, -- Ssilvers 15:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, as the source is known only to that guy, we're going to have to see it go.  There's one on Amazon, and it would be my assumption that that's it's provenance, but I don't really know.  Let it go, and I'll upload the one from Amazon in its place with a proper FUR.  —  MusicMaker5376 04:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Already taken care of. :Image:Big River.jpg.  —  MusicMaker5376 00:38, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[:Image:BigRiverLP.jpg]]

message: The vandal is back under a new name.  -- Ssilvers 21:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Thrill Me]]

message: We've been tidying the article for Wicked and trying to get it ready for GA assessment. The main criticism we received from the assessor chap was that the synopsis was rather long - which is perfectly true, it's about double the 900 words recommended - but we're having trouble shrinking it! Turns out Wicked has a surprisingly complicated plot! If anyone could take a quick look - and by all means, be very drastic - we'd be grateful. - Dafyd 23:05, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The synopsis is one of the main things holding it back from GA.  I've cut it down once, only to watch it slowly grow back to where it is.  I'm heartless when it comes to editing, but I know it'll just grow back.  It's like the Green Knight.  I might get a chance to do it on Sunday.  —  MusicMaker5376 04:24, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't seem to have held it back too badly!  In its current form, the reviewer described it as "perfect".  Now we just need to keep it like that.  Happy‑melon 22:32, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, you did a nice job of cutting it down.  Personally, I think it's still a little long, but, hey, it's a GA!  I would suggest reverting any and all "improvements" to the plot without prejudice, otherwise the novel'll be up there again....  Congrats!  —  MusicMaker5376 00:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Wicked'' synopsis 

message: The article for Hair is getting close to GA-class, I think, but it is terribly under-illustrated.  Can anyone come up with a free image or two for the article?  -- Ssilvers 22:06, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If I recall, my songbook has several images from the movie.  I believe they're B/W, and I'm not sure how we could license them.  I don't think there were any pictures in the paperbook I mentioned, but I'll check later tonight.  —  MusicMaker5376 22:59, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ''[[Hair (musical)|Hair]]'' - Images needed

message: I don't know if anyone else is watching this page, but it gets its fair share of vandalism.  If a couple more people could add it to their watchpages, it would be helpful.  —  MusicMaker5376 20:19, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Blood Brothers (musical)]] 

message: I just thought I would say that Hairspray (2007 film) is currently undergoing a peer review in hopes of further improving the article.  Seeing as the film was based on Hairspray (musical), I thought I would post here to let any members of this WikiProject who might be able to help know that any contributions they could make would be more than welcome.  Also, for a while now I've been trying to determine if the Hairspray (2007 film) article falls under the scope of this WikiProject or not.  I know that it's not technically a musical theatre production, but it is a musical film that was based on the musical theatre production of the same name.  Anyway, I thought I would ask.  Thanks! —Mears man (talk) 04:43, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Our project's "scope" excludes musical films (see our project's main page under "Scope"), but some of our members are also interested in them.  They fall within the scope of the Film project.  Best regards, -- Ssilvers (talk) 04:49, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hairspray (2007 film) peer review

message: *Would appreciate your input at the FAC discussion for the article A Very Merry Unauthorized Children's Scientology Pageant.  Thanks.  Curt Wilhelm VonSavage (talk) 08:40, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Very Merry Unauthorized Children's Scientology Pageant FAC 

message: As User:Ozgod currently has a big "retired" banner on his page, i suggest he be dropped down to the "Inactive members" list. ChrisStansfield Contribs 17:33, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, he hasn't posted on Wikipedia since August 6.  -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:48, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ozgod 

message: Is the new image that someone added permissible/appropriate?  -- Ssilvers (talk) 15:03, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Assuming you mean :Image:My fair Lady 291158637.jpg, I think it's hideous.  However, since we run into copyright problems getting images of professional productions, I have no objection to it.  —  MusicMaker5376 16:26, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

text: You're right.  It could just as easily be a scene from Guys and Dolls.  Or The Music Man.  Or Carousel.  Or any musical or play in existence.  Meh.  Get rid of it.  —  MusicMaker5376 19:29, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[My Fair Lady]]

message: There's been a revamp of the voice articles: Soprano, Mezzo-soprano, Contralto, Tenor, Baritone, Bass-baritone, and Bass.
One problem we encountered was embedded lists, i.e. lists of varying relevance added on to the articles. Some of these were related to musicals. The solution adopted - I think consistent with WP policy - was to split off some of the lists into separate articles. 
These are the ones created for musicals:
*List of soprano roles in musicals
*List of mezzo-soprano roles in musicals
*List of contralto roles in musicals
*List of tenor roles in musicals
*List of baritone roles in musicals
*List of bass-baritone roles in musicals
*List of bass roles in musicals
Will these turn into viable articles? Should they be merged? Should they be deleted? Maybe that's for the project here to decide! I'm sure you will know best!
So enjoy the new articles and have a great Xmas/holiday! Festively yours. -- Kleinzach (talk) 06:59, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no consistency whatsoever in the various articles for the musicals themselves.  To my knowledge, no one publishes a source saying "So-and-so" is a bass-baritone.  It's my opinion that these articles will become unstable OR crap-fests.  Voice parts in musicals aren't as clear-cut as in opera.  I say we delete them.  —  MusicMaker5376 14:39, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

text: WP:PROD them.  You never know, maybe no one will notice :D Happy‑melon 17:57, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

text: ...and deleted. Merry Winter! --omtay38 03:00, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: List of roles in musicals

message: They've all been nominated. Weigh in here. Happy editing! --omtay38 19:33, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ...and deleted. Merry Winter! --omtay38 03:00, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: AfD

message: Porgy and Bess has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 17:12, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Featured article review

message: This article is nominated for deletion.  I forked this article from the main article, and would rather not see the information creep back to the main article.  Any assistance in punching up the article would be appreciated.  —  MusicMaker5376 17:26, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that's kinda the idea.  It should have more info than just the track listing.  There's definitely enough information out there for a complete article; why delete it when we can add it?  —  MusicMaker5376 18:18, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

text: If you think it should be deleted, weigh in at the AfD.  —  MusicMaker5376 18:18, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Rent (albums)]] 

message: An editor deleted a reference to the current production of this show at the Warehouse Theatre in Croydon, London.  Should this production be listed under the productions section?  That is, is it notable enough?  -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:55, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a professional production.  Works for me.  —  MusicMaker5376 18:01, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Mystery of Edwin Drood (musical)