Talk:Edward Everett Horton

message: He may have been a sissy, but he was no dummy. He bought up property in the San Fernando Valley starting in the 1920s. He developed what he named Beleigh Acres, a 23-acre compound where he lived with his longtime partner, handsome, silver-tongued actor Gavin Gordon, and Horton’s mother, who stubbornly hung around until she was 102-years-old. Gordon and Horton met in a stage production of Coward’s Private Lives in 1934. They appeared in only one film together, the sweetly sentimental Pocketful Of Miracles (1961), alongside Bette Davis, Ann-Margret and Glenn Ford. They were together 25 years.
:Can you prove Horton and Gordon slept together, and no one else ever joined them?  Others who lived at Beleigh Acres included F. Scott Fitzgerald and Sheilah Graham.  Multiple books by her identify Horton as her landlord.  Possibly all four of them shared a bed every once in a while.  The movie Bob and Carol and Ted and Alice was based on a short story by Fitzgerald.  You also said Gordon was handsome.  He had nothing on my great-grandfather.  And Horton's mother "stubbornly hung around" until she was 102?  Oh, I get it, most mothers would have said, "When my number comes up, I'm going away."Brent Brant (talk) 23:22, 27 September 2023 (UTC)

message: Horton's been classified under the category "Gay actors from the United States".  However, I've yet to find any proof-- despite some considerable google-fu on my part-- that Horton was gay.  A few sites do say that he's gay, but they don't cite any proof, compelling or otherwise.  So I'm removing it.  If someone does have some proof, feel free to provide it and to revert my edit.Anonymoustom (talk) 23:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to director George Cukor, Horton was part of Hollywood's gay scene, although his statement probably doesn't meet WP:RS. 162.39.194.20 (talk) 22:30, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Cukor died in January 1983 at age 83. People had numerous opportunities to ask him to drop names for dubious purposes.  An author named Patrick McGilligan waited until Cukor had been dead for thirty years and then wrote a book claiming that a whole bunch of people who regularly visited his Los Angeles house were gay.  That sleazy type of book does not meet Wikipedia's standards as a RS. Horton's career prospered in an era when movie studio executives forbid talent from discussing their off-camera lives. Let it go.Brent Brant (talk) 23:22, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Sexual Orientation

message: Mr. Horton was a frequent visitor to Rochester, NY, where he was loved and
made us all  giggle. I was in my teens and had the  delightful chance to
play, and lose, at tennis with him  in the indoor court at the
Genesee Valley Club.
I resent snide remarks about his sexual orientation- - -which is nobody's
business, totally beside his talent and deeply in bad taste.
I hope Wikipedia is able to filter slander OUT.
If not, I have a slew of goodies to contribute to the sleaze faction.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elettra (talk • contribs) 22:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's interesting that you want to be viewed as open minded but if you were really open minded you wouldn't think that identifying him as gay was snide, slander or "deeply in bad taste."  66.245.66.225 (talk) 23:29, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

text: I have added a reference to a reliable source regarding his homosexuality. I think it would be a trivial matter to demonstrate that Mr. Horton's sexuality, while obviously a private matter for him in his lifetime, is a notable fact today, and reporting it is neither in bad taste or showing undue weight. He was in his roles an apparent homosexual stereotype, so people have naturally been curious. curious enough that their focus, and the truth of this part of his life, is notable. If we want to debate this, im ok with it, but if we decide to remove it, we MUST remove the categories related to his being gay.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 03:29, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  A kind, talented character-actor, and my friend 

message: Just a guess, but he's named after Edward Everett, the man who spoke before Lincoln's Gettysburg Address? Could he be a relation? I hesitate to ask, but if he is, there's always the chance his unusual voice is alike. Piano non troppo (talk) 06:49, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Who he is named after

message: I removed an unsourced statement from the Early Life section indicating that Horton may be the grandson of Edward Everett Hale.  Horton is named after his own father, whose last name is obviously not Hale.  Edward Everett Hale's only daughter who survived to adulthood (Ellen) neither married nor had children.  It's possible that he is related in some other way, but many other possibilities exist including that Edward Everett Horton Sr. was named in honor of the famous statesman and orator, Edward Everett.  In any case, a reliable source is called for before addition to the article.  Richigi (talk) 15:07, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship to Edward Everett Hale 

message: Actor Gavin Gordon, 15 years Horton's junior, appears in the 1961 film Pocketful of Miracles that also features Horton, though they do not appear together in any scenes. 
:This does not seem to relate to anything before or after. Presumably it's a discreet way of hinting that Gavin Gordon was his partner. But it should indicate.  Valetude (talk) 13:06, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That was my thought, too.  Your inference (that someone is hinting they were partners) didn't occur to me, and I was left wondering why this reference (which has since been edited to indicate that they both appeared in a second film) merited inclusion.  He had a significant part in two films with Cary Grant (having scenes and dialogs with Grant in both of them), so appearing in two films with a far-less well-known actor doesn't seem to merit mention, barring some direct statement as to why that is significant.  In a career as long as Horton's, he was bound to overlap with lots of actors more than once.  I am going to be bold and delete it. Lynn25 (talk) 01:53, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who he?