Talk:Chams

message: Infobox done. --Easter Monkey 04:40, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Is there no WP article on the Cham Language?  I would like to see one.  I'm not familiar enough with the language to write an original article, but if nobody else does it first, I can gleen some info from various sources and at least start a stub.--WilliamThweatt 23:13, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cham Language

message: The Cham language have gone through considerable changes, it is now more simmiliar to Khmer and Vietnamese when heard becuase it is more monosyllabic or sesquillabic than a typical Malay language.  Most Cham words changed from being polysyllabic to being clustered Monosyllabic. CanCanDuo 02:49, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: when classifying languages a distinction is made between similarities that are a result of actual historical links, and similarities that are a result of unrelated languages influencing each other. In the case of Cham, although its phonology and grammar might not be very similar to Malay now due to the influence of nearby Mon-Khmer languages, historical linguistics has shown that the two languages do share a distant common ancestor. That is what is meant by it being said to be a part of the Malayo-Polynesian language family. --Krsont 23:48, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cham is not closed to Indonesians or Malay

message: What is Bani Islam? Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 07:16, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a source for "Bani Islam"? Saimdusan Talk|Contribs 05:11, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Bani Islam

message: Hey,
is there any more info on the type of hinduism practiced there?
thanks, domDomsta333 (talk) 13:12, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hinduism in champa 

message: The article writes that the Chams are descendants of the Cambodians and are a Mon-Khmer people with non-Mongoloid eyes, tall, fair and so on.  Although it is cited, much of what is said contradicts modern data.  The Chams are neither descendants of Cambodians or are they Mon-Khmer, it is fairly well agreed upon that they are descendants of Austronesian seafarers.  The rest of what is said is also highly questionable, like unproven eugenics.  Do anyone favor re-examining the article? Thegreatesttypeofangry (talk) 16:37, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the nonsense. "It is fairly well agreed upon that they are descendants of Austronesian seafarers." Indeed. The Chams probably originated in Borneo. --Folantin (talk) 07:57, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccurate information? 

message: The article contradicst itself. It says Balamon are actually Brahmins of the Cham people where as later it says they are kashtriyas. Where is the citation for both ? Taprobanus (talk) 22:05, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Balamons

message: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/105118/Champa
http://books.google.com/books?id=a5YntZEIUHMC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=u4VOYN0dmqMC&pg=PA125#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=ZqOLmYD-0l4C&pg=PA532#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=cx6lttzLAGMC&pg=PA146#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=4Uyypm6T7ZsC&pg=PA353#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=fj8l8v_yP5oC&pg=PA84&lpg=PA84&dq=cham+balamon&source=bl&ots=7ocmOsao6U&sig=xfu_vxvUzKVNgihmtLy_u1da97Q&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ROBhUMPmNO2-0QHr5YD4Ag&ved=0CGYQ6AEwCQ#v=onepage&q=cham%20balamon&f=false
http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1309&dat=19881002&id=vWJPAAAAIBAJ&sjid=cJADAAAAIBAJ&pg=5864,305252
http://www.vnptninhthuan.com.vn/SacCham/BalaMon.htm
http://en.vietnamplus.vn/Home/Cham-Balamon-dignitary-council-makes-debut/20111/15293.vnplus
http://www.lonelyplanet.com/travelblogs/377/151303/New+Year+of+the+Cham+Bani?destId=357846
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=4786832332032393014
http://www.chamstudies.com/members/agnesdefeo(transgressionsdelislam).pdf 
http://www.chamstudies.com/articles/agnesdefeo(transgressionsdelislam).pdf
(http://www.chamstudies.com/members/agnesdefeo%28transgressionsdelislam%29.pdf)
Matriarcat Cham (royaume du Champa – Vietnam) : Allah trône aux côtés de la déesse-mère Ponagar
http://matricien.org/geo-hist-matriarcat/asie/chams/
http://www.sabrizain.org/malaya/library/indiancolonization.pdf
http://journals.cambridge.org/action/displayAbstract?fromPage=online&aid=7451000
http://books.google.com/books?id=MBGYb84A7SAC&pg=PA228&lpg=PA228&dq=abu+hasan+jaya+indravarman&source=bl&ots=wN_MXA-jzC&sig=CNZ5gf1kAbtOX9_IkPhA-408_UM&hl=en&sa=X&ei=2sBhUOmlA5CP0QHUkIHoAw&ved=0CDQQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=abu%20hasan%20jaya%20indravarman&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=yaeESYegRXMC&pg=PA75&lpg=PA75&dq=abu+hasan+jaya+indravarman&source=bl&ots=iNT-O-vwib&sig=nhhw-iBnz_JTtfZ_oESMIAmFkeQ&hl=en&sa=X&ei=ecFhULGXKaaD0QHFrYGoDw&ved=0CDoQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=abu%20hasan%20jaya%20indravarman&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=fjsEn3w4TPgC&pg=PT61&lpg=PT61&dq=abu+hasan+jaya+indravarman&source=bl&ots=yx9HhOkCoX&sig=S34kiAi_PCaO8T8gibulb15QeFY&hl=en&sa=X&ei=i8FhUOCNLKPt0gG0kIGgDw&ved=0CEAQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=abu%20hasan%20jaya%20indravarman&f=false
Page 183
http://books.google.com/books?id=ncqGAAAAIAAJ&q=abu+hasan+jaya+indravarman&dq=abu+hasan+jaya+indravarman&source=bl&ots=kKKC5THD0s&sig=ISq2hwk7ghZ8zjVl23zUD8Zp72Q&hl=en&sa=X&ei=i8FhUOCNLKPt0gG0kIGgDw&ved=0CEYQ6AEwAw
Page 52
http://books.google.com/books?id=6GQMAQAAMAAJ&q=abu+hasan+jaya+indravarman&dq=abu+hasan+jaya+indravarman&source=bl&ots=W9nqkmRKSB&sig=I6gKlYZdGG1LlQG9w7MN0RzYmbg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=i8FhUOCNLKPt0gG0kIGgDw&ved=0CEsQ6AEwBA
Rajmaan (talk) 16:33, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources on history 

message: I still don't understand the relationship between Cham and Aceh. Where did the two groups come from? Borneo? I don't know. But after reading this forum post, I now tend to think a "sea-faring" Malayo-Polynesian dialect became a koine language for many people in Hindu-ized parts of ancient Vietnam and Cambodia. Komitsuki (talk) 16:09, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The relationship between Cham and Aceh? 

message: ===Historic===
History of the Cham–Vietnamese wars
http://books.google.com/books?id=OIzreCGlHxIC&pg=PT592#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=tyhT9SZRLS8C&pg=PA230#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=OIzreCGlHxIC&pg=PT592#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=R5p7cRyK748C&pg=PA109#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=Bc30ytJmwzMC&pg=PA110#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=R5p7cRyK748C&pg=PA111#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=tyhT9SZRLS8C&pg=PA230#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=R5p7cRyK748C&pg=PA109#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=TgkYAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA251&dq=%22In+the+year+1474+the+censor+Ch'en+Chun+went+to+Champa+with+an+imperial+commission+to+invest+the+king+there,+but+on+his+arrival,+he+found+the+country+occupied+by+Annamese+soldiers,+so+that+he+could+not+enter+it+;+he+then+went+to+Malacca,+with&hl=en&sa=X&ei=SwgkUtiQOO65sQSZ4YHwBQ&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22In%20the%20year%201474%20the%20censor%20Ch'en%20Chun%20went%20to%20Champa%20with%20an%20imperial%20commission%20to%20invest%20the%20king%20there%2C%20but%20on%20his%20arrival%2C%20he%20found%20the%20country%20occupied%20by%20Annamese%20soldiers%2C%20so%20that%20he%20could%20not%20enter%20it%20%3B%20he%20then%20went%20to%20Malacca%2C%20with&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=tzh1fQEEFPAC&pg=PA103#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=tzh1fQEEFPAC&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=w7AqZR1ZUZgC&pg=PA45#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=2E_5nR0SoXoC&pg=PA168#v=onepage&q&f=false
Refugees
http://books.google.com/books?id=tzh1fQEEFPAC&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=2E_5nR0SoXoC&pg=PA168#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/76-po-cei-brei-fled-to-cambodia-in-1795-1796-to-find-support
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/76-po-cei-brei-fled-to-cambodia-in-1795-1796-to-find-support
http://chamtoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76:nobel3&catid=37
Katip Suma's Jihad against Emperor Minh Mang's invasion of Champa in 1832-1835
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/78-the-uprisings-of-katip-sumat-and-ja-thak-wa-1833-1835
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/83-the-uprising-of-jathak-wa-1834-1835
http://books.google.com/books?id=3oMqrqSp1W4C&pg=PA25#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://chamunesco.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=110:the-raja-praong-ritual-a-memory-of-the-sea-in-cham-malay-relations&catid=45:van-hoa&Itemid=120
http://voa-islam.com//news/world-world/2009/07/01/96/history-of-islam-in-vietnam/;
http://voa-islam.com/news/world-world/2009/07/01/96/history-of-islam-in-vietnam/;
http://m.voa-islam.com/news/world-world/2009/07/01/96/history-of-islam-in-vietnam/;
http://www.angelfire.com/vt/vietnamesemuslims/hstry.html
http://books.google.com/books?id=Zw0j_5OauH8C&pg=PT180#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/news-tin-t-c/world-th-gi-i/120-the-champa-history-book-debut-and-a-seminar-on-the-indiginous-people-of-champa
http://kyotoreview.cseas.kyoto-u.ac.jp/issue/issue4/article_353.html
http://kyotoreview.org/issue-5/vietnam-champa-relations-and-the-malay-islam-regional-network-in-the-17th-19th-centuries/
Rajmaan (talk) 04:35, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Cham resistance against Vietnam

message: History of the Cham–Vietnamese wars
http://books.google.com/books?id=OIzreCGlHxIC&pg=PT592#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=tyhT9SZRLS8C&pg=PA230#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=OIzreCGlHxIC&pg=PT592#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=R5p7cRyK748C&pg=PA109#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=Bc30ytJmwzMC&pg=PA110#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=R5p7cRyK748C&pg=PA111#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=tyhT9SZRLS8C&pg=PA230#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=R5p7cRyK748C&pg=PA109#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=TgkYAAAAYAAJ&pg=PA251&dq=%22In+the+year+1474+the+censor+Ch'en+Chun+went+to+Champa+with+an+imperial+commission+to+invest+the+king+there,+but+on+his+arrival,+he+found+the+country+occupied+by+Annamese+soldiers,+so+that+he+could+not+enter+it+;+he+then+went+to+Malacca,+with&hl=en&sa=X&ei=SwgkUtiQOO65sQSZ4YHwBQ&ved=0CC4Q6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=%22In%20the%20year%201474%20the%20censor%20Ch'en%20Chun%20went%20to%20Champa%20with%20an%20imperial%20commission%20to%20invest%20the%20king%20there%2C%20but%20on%20his%20arrival%2C%20he%20found%20the%20country%20occupied%20by%20Annamese%20soldiers%2C%20so%20that%20he%20could%20not%20enter%20it%20%3B%20he%20then%20went%20to%20Malacca%2C%20with&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=tzh1fQEEFPAC&pg=PA103#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=tzh1fQEEFPAC&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=w7AqZR1ZUZgC&pg=PA45#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=2E_5nR0SoXoC&pg=PA168#v=onepage&q&f=false
Refugees
http://books.google.com/books?id=tzh1fQEEFPAC&pg=PA104#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=2E_5nR0SoXoC&pg=PA168#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/76-po-cei-brei-fled-to-cambodia-in-1795-1796-to-find-support
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/76-po-cei-brei-fled-to-cambodia-in-1795-1796-to-find-support
http://chamtoday.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=76:nobel3&catid=37
Katip Suma's Jihad against Emperor Minh Mang's invasion of Champa in 1832-1835
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/78-the-uprisings-of-katip-sumat-and-ja-thak-wa-1833-1835
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/history-l-ch-s/83-the-uprising-of-jathak-wa-1834-1835
http://books.google.com/books?id=3oMqrqSp1W4C&pg=PA25#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://chamunesco.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=110:the-raja-praong-ritual-a-memory-of-the-sea-in-cham-malay-relations&catid=45:van-hoa&Itemid=120
http://voa-islam.com//news/world-world/2009/07/01/96/history-of-islam-in-vietnam/;
http://voa-islam.com/news/world-world/2009/07/01/96/history-of-islam-in-vietnam/;
http://m.voa-islam.com/news/world-world/2009/07/01/96/history-of-islam-in-vietnam/;
http://www.angelfire.com/vt/vietnamesemuslims/hstry.html
http://books.google.com/books?id=Zw0j_5OauH8C&pg=PT180#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://www.chamtoday.com/index.php/news-tin-t-c/world-th-gi-i/120-the-champa-history-book-debut-and-a-seminar-on-the-indiginous-people-of-champa
http://kyotoreview.cseas.kyoto-u.ac.jp/issue/issue4/article_353.html
http://kyotoreview.org/issue-5/vietnam-champa-relations-and-the-malay-islam-regional-network-in-the-17th-19th-centuries/
Rajmaan (talk) 04:35, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Historic

message: http://web.archive.org/web/20100913222239/http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/35-vietnams-minority-chams-cling-to-muslim-faith-ak-03
http://web.archive.org/web/20100913222255/http://www.dawn.com/wps/wcm/connect/dawn-content-library/dawn/news/world/35-vietnams-minority-chams-cling-to-muslim-faith-ak-03?pageDesign=most_read_rc
http://archive. is/4OyIb
http://www.muinebeach.net/chamculture.htm
http://books.google.com/books?id=a5YntZEIUHMC&printsec=frontcover&source=gbs_ge_summary_r&cad=0#v=onepage&q&f=false
Transgressions de l’islam au Vietnam Agnès De Féo*
http://chamstudies.free.fr/ChamsBani.pdf
http://www.chamstudies.com/articles/agnesdefeo(transgressionsdelislam).pdf
http://agnesreportages.free.fr/textes/ChamsBani.pdf
http://video.google.fr/videoplay?docid=4786832332032393014&q=islam&total=147121&start=30&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4
Vietnam : l’Islam des Chams Bani
dimanche 22 avril 2007
http://www.buddhachannel.tv/portail/spip.php?article487
The syncretic world of the ‘pure Cham’
By Agnès De Féo
http://www.chamstudies.com/articles/ppp.pdf
Les musulmans de Châu Ò””c (Vietnam) à l'épreuve du salafisme
by DE Agnès 
http://www.chamstudies.com/articles/MoussonsSom.pdf
Les musulmans de Châu Đốc (Vietnam) à l’épreuve du salafisme
Châu Đốc Muslims (Vietnam) faced with Salafism
Agnès De Féo
p. 359-372
http://moussons.revues.org/976
http://www.chamstudies.com/members/philiptaylor.html
Economy in Motion: Cham Muslim Traders in the Mekong Delta
Philip Taylor
http://www.chamstudies.com/members/philiptaylor(chammuslimtraders).pdf
Redressing Disadvantage or Re-arranging Inequality? Development Interventions and
Local Responses in the Mekong Delta
Philip Taylor
http://www.chamstudies.com/members/philiptaylor(redressingdisadvantage).pdf
philip taylor
Poor Policies, Wealthy Peasants: Alternative Trajectories of Rural Development in Vietnam
http://www.chamstudies.com/members/philiptaylor(ruraldevelopmentinvn).pdf
http://youtube.com/user/yousoh
Rajmaan (talk) 04:45, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: cham life in vietnam

message: Map of historical Champa throughout the ages
http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/7692/chammap2bl1.gif
Map of Asia including Champa from Abbasid point of view.
http://img45.imageshack.us/img45/5002/sanf2uv0.gif
Austronesian migration including Cham people in 1500 BC
http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/5700/malaymigration0wr.jpg
Champa in 1150 AD.
http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/2857/danmalayu02.jpg
Other
http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/8231/danmalayu01.jpg
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/dai-viet.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/maps.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/dai-viet-ly.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/images/dai-viet-map-ly.gif
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/dai-viet-tran.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/dai-viet-ho.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/images/indochina-map-1350.gif
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/vietnam/images/dai-viet-map-tran.gif
http://khmerkromngo.org/gImages/map/KhmerEmpire.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/62/Czampa_Mapa.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/45/VietnamChampa1.gif/382px-VietnamChampa1.gif
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/84/Nam_Tien.PNG/360px-Nam_Tien.PNG
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/dd/Nam_tien.jpg
http://www.onislam.net/english/oimedia/onislamen/images/Politics/2012/09/Champa_Kingdom_Map.jpg
http://www.degar.org/hlagru-flc/
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/45/Bandera_Front_Alliberament_Cham.svg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/db/Flag_of_BAJARAKA.svg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/98/Flag_of_KKF.svg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/aa/Map_of_Vietnam_1829.jpg/399px-Map_of_Vietnam_1829.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Map-of-southeast-asia_1000_-_1100_CE.png
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a9/VietnamTrinhNguyen1.gif
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/13/Map_of_Taungoo_Empire_%281580%29.png
Rajmaan (talk) 03:14, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miscellaneous 

message: Vietnam fears that if the issue of Cham relations to the disputed south China sea islands are brought up, Cham would demand atuonomy from Vietnam since they were violently conquered by the Vietnamese. Vietnam has put more restrictions of Cham culture and customs recently.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2014/06/140616-south-china-sea-vietnam-china-cambodia-champa/
Rajmaan (talk) 22:33, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vietnamese fears of Cham autonomy over South China sea disputes 

message: I agree with Saturn.
This whole section should be removed. It's not correct. Cham people live in the same kinds of houses as everyone else in Vietnam, not mud houses. The Vietnamese Government is not systematically trying to destroy Cham culture and religion. It's always a worry when the only reference is to a couple of self style 'activists' who don't actually live in the country.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aussiegrey (talk • contribs) 04:01, 4 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cham People in Vietnam Today 

message: source. Just reposting. Komitsuki (talk) 13:08, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reposting 

message: Just a little clarification. Kampong Cham is not derived from "port of the Chams". The original name of the province is Kampong RongChaum which literally translates as "Port of Patient". The name was shortened by the vernacular pronunciation as Kampong "Cham" but it is a mistaken notion that the province was named after Cham refugees from nearby Champa. Kampong Cham contain the Angkorean site of Angkor Bachey as well as Banteay Prey Nokor and many other major pre-angkorean Khmer settlements all predating the Cham movement into the area. The Chams neither founded nor were they the majority of the area so this naming proposal is highly unlikely with many archaeological and historical evidence against it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiname12345 (talk • contribs) 15:26, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kampong Cham 

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message: As you can see in the side bar at the beginning of the article, the total population of Chams today, including those in Vietnam, Cambodia, Malaysia, Hainan （Utsuls), and the overseas diaspora, numbers just 400,000 - Not even half a million. It's hard to believe that an ethnic group this small once held domain over the majority of modern central and south Vietnam, especially considering that the Kinh (ethnic Vietnamese) today number over 90 million people. So, does that imply that the majority of Cham people were assimilated into the Kinh? The article states that many Cham who resettled in Malaysia were assimilated into the local Malay population, but it's not clear whether or not they are part of the 10,000 Cham that reside in Malaysia listed in the side bar. Many Cham were also killed, but I doubt the massacre was enough to make them such a small minority. --124.119.126.206 (talk) 13:20, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
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message: I found this within the article and noticed that it wasn't properly cited or lacked a citation--would anyone know the point of reference? I looked online but the only thing that was word for word or even similar was from a Facebook page of someone.
"In the 1960s various movements emerged calling for the creation of a separate Cham state in Vietnam. The Liberation Front of Champa (FLC – Le Front pour la Libération de Cham) and the Front de Libération des Hauts plateaux dominated. The latter group sought greater alliance with other hilltribe minorities."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Monruv (talk • contribs) 08:23, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
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message: I think the section names used in the History chapter need some work, they often don't really reflect the paragraphs below or include a lot of other information. At other times, the information is not very chronological. Does anyone else agree? Glennznl (talk) 09:48, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, some of the information needs to be reorganized. There is also considerable overlap with :History of Champa, so much of the first sub-sections can be trimmed and given a main-hatnote to :History of Champa. –Austronesier (talk) 14:34, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I just shuffled the content and made some better sections. I did not delete or move anything yet. There is overlap with both History of Champa, History of the Cham–Vietnamese wars and Champa. We will need to take a close look on how to clean it all up. Glennznl (talk) 15:53, 15 June 2020 (UTC)

text:  the Martial art section looks extremely dubious and low quality to me. I think it would be best to remove it, do you agree? Glennznl (talk) 16:00, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Forgot to answer...yes, I agree. Even if parts of it are valid, this is undue here, and only merits a mention in Silat#Minangkabau. It is quite understandable that Indonesian and Malaysian editors are interested in Cham/Champa-related topics, but sometimes forget that information about the Cham needs to be significant on its own, and not just because it is interesting from a Indonesian/Malaysian perspective. –Austronesier (talk) 11:06, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I found the same material under Pencak_silat#Minangkabau, so no knowledge is lost from Wiki in that regard. Glennznl (talk) 11:39, 21 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  This section also claims that the ancestors of the Chams were from South Asia, rather than Southeast Asia. Is this an error? Jarble (talk) 02:01, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, that's quite a hodgepodge of modern solid scholarship and weird outdated musing which goes back to this edit. I suggest to restore the earlier version of the paragraph. Maybe it should be revised to be less Austronesian-focused, and also mention the fact that Chamic culture is a blend of maritime Austronesian and mainland Austrasiatic elements, as witnessed from linguistic and extra-linguistic evidence. –Austronesier (talk) 21:23, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
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message: There are some inaccuracy regarding North Vietnam's relations with ethnic minorities. While it is true that North Vietnam were advantaged by past connection of imperial Vietnamese dynasties, the Cham people were not pro-Vietnamese and organizations like FULRO and Champa Liberation Front both proclaimed their open anti-Vietnamese, regardless North or South. It is necessary to pay attention. HiddenFace101 (talk) 09:43, 25 May 2023 (UTC)
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message: This article has several images of ethnic Cham women in traditional clothes or doing traditional Cham dances but absolutely none of any male ethnic Cham, perhaps someone close to the regions where the Cham live can photograph a few men and boys in traditional Cham clothes and add them to this article. --Donald Trung (talk)  23:28, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
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message: The article refers to Utsul as a language spoken by Cham people. This is just factually wrong. Utsul or Utsat is also known as "Hainan Cham," but the speakers of this language are NOT Cham. They are "Huihui" or "Utsul" people, who are Chamic, but NOT Cham. The reference to Utsul needs to be removed. JaLikei (talk) 19:07, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Jamedeus (talk) 19:19, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
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