Talk:Porsche 917

message: I've had a stab at a template for racing cars (see template:Racing car) to summarise the usual data. I've used the F1 templates as a starting point and applied it to the Brabham BT46 article. If anyone's got an interest in this, please have a look at the template and modify or suggest changes as appropriate. After a few people have had a go at it and we have something we're happy with we could start to use it more widely. Note that it's not meant to be specific to F1, by the way. Cheers. 4u1e 10:00, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Racing car template

message: I posted the initial listing of Need for Speed: Porsche Unleashed, but would love to find other games where I can drive this car.
Rag-time4 18:08, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Would like more info on video game appearances

message: There's a claim of a V-16 917 lacking a citation under the cam-am part. This is verified in "The Unfair Advantage" by Mark Donohue. I don't have it with me so I can't be technical but he mentions driving it briefly and that he could hear one end of the engine start before the other.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.152.146.100 (talk) 16:35, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  John Allen's 'Porsche 917 Superprofile' mentions that chassis flexing was originally thought to be the cause of the car's poor handling, but tests disproved this theory. Halmyre 07:56, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  A Nigel Roebuck piece which appeared aeons ago on Autosport's web site quoted Frank Gardner as saying that "this thing flexed so much that the actual position of the gearchange used to alter. You'd reach out for where the lever had been last time you used it, and it wasn't there! It had moved."  Said article is reproduced at http://www.legslarry.org.uk/917.html, and also contains a graphic description of the 1970 BOAC 1000, a.k.a "The Day They Forgot To Tell Pedro It Was Raining", as well as some lovely Frank Gardnerisms.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Larrington (talk • contribs) 13:39, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

text: It's true that the frame could be pressurized. The frame was prone cracking. Pressurizing the the frame and checking for leak with a tire pressure gauge was a test procedure. But Gérard Larrousse reported in Automobile Historique that the Martini racing 917s had a presure gauge on the dashboard to check for leaks during the race. I have to check for complete reference. Ericd 17:49, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Paul Frere's 'Porsche Racing Cars of the 70s' and John Allan's 'Superprofile' both mention the pressurised frame, but neither mentions a dash-mounted pressure gauge, and none of the cockpit shots show such a gauge. There is a famous Frank Gardner story relating to his and David Piper's shared drive at the 1969 Nurburgring 1000km. One of the Porsche engineers showed Frank a pressure gauge and told him that if it went to zero he was to drive back to the pits 'with care'. Frank's response was that if it happened he wasn't driving anywhere 'with care'; he was going to park the bastard, walk back to the pits and collect his wages. Halmyre 07:56, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've read the article again. In fact it's in "Rétroviseur" and not in "Automobile Historique" in fact what Larrouse said is unclear. I'm not sure there was a gauge on the dash. Ericd 09:53, 24 August 2007 (UTC)

text: At http://www.1-18scalecars.com/0Porsche_917K_(1970_LeMans_winner).htm they state there was a pressure gauge on the dash board. Ericd 09:56, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really reference-grade material, unless they can provide some pictures or other information they might have used for their model. Flanker235 (talk) 06:12, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mythic stories that need substantiating 

message: The article claims that the stability problem was solved by John Horsmann, but The Making of a Winner by Larry Pihera, J.B. Lippincott Co. '72 claims that it was David Yorke.  Yorke noticed that there weren't any splattered bugs on the car's tail and thus an indication of an absence of downforce (p 113).  As the article doesn't provide a cite for the Horsmann claim, does anyone have evidence that is was Horsmann, not Yorke? Tac27 (talk) 21:28, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why should being there make any difference? I'm not wishing to put down Brian Redman's comments but If the authors of that book have done their research correctly, they may have very good reasons for saying what they did. Do we know that Redman was there when it happened? Did the other authors interview several people - maybe even including Redman - before saying what they did because that was what most people said? Flanker235 (talk) 14:02, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stability Solution 

message: I removed the "very nice" description of the Laser kit car as it is entirely subjective in nature. Cite a source for it being "very nice" or leave it out, please.
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message: Wikipedia is not  an registry of who owns what (WP:NOTDIRECTORY) neither it is a fansite, therefore the "Chassis numbers" section must go. Donnie Park (talk) 08:49, 10 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. It's almost completely unreferenced as well and nearly consumes the page. --Sable232 (talk) 01:52, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
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message: The article makes the well documented claim that the frame was permanently pressurized for crack detection, which I have no reason to doubt. However it also claims that the frame was used to pump oil to a front oil cooler. This seems highly improbable from an engineering standpoint. Its one or the other, right?Batvette (talk) 03:57, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pressurized frame 

message: The following claim is incorrect and has been removed:
:"The 917 was also the only championship winning car in Can Am not to be powered by Chevrolet."
Dan Gurney used a Ford-powered Lola T-70 to win the 1966 Bridgehampton race. See "CAN-AM 50th Anniversary", Levy, George & Biro, Pete, Quarto Publishing Group, USA, 2016, p.36. Flanker235 (talk) 13:29, 5 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I goofed. It said championship. I have put it back. My bad. Flanker235 (talk) 13:39, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Porsche/Chevrolet claim