Talk:Xbox 360/Archive 1

message: Hey should we remove some of the old rumor posts and tech rumors since there is a lot that was answered e3 and post e3, this could clear out a lot of space and make way for more discussion about what is currently known and what is to come? If not then thats ok. -Tik July 3 1154 am
:I wouldn't mind removing whole sections if they are no longer relevent. What you could do it post in the relevent section and say you want to remove it because it is old and if nobody objects then delete it a week later.--Thax 4 July 2005 16:57 (UTC)
::Just as an update if facts are already proven and in print as such, there is no need to bring up old rumors and prove that they were false.  Going back and saying things like the Xbox 360 is a handheld device but was later found to be a console doesnt give people information just clogs up the article.
::User gspawn: Does anyone know how to archive old talk and start from scratch? Lots of talk contained here would be useful in a historical sense, but most of this discussion page is either POV (360 and Dreamcast) or outdated info (most of backward compatibility, since the method for compatibility has been detailed in the media). The page could use a backup of these tons of info, and then begin talk anew- leaving out POV points, hopefully. Especially with the system release coming so soon, most of the items recieving discussion now will be thoroughly detailed soon. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.155.157.141 (talk • contribs) 
:::See how to refactor and how to archive a Talk Page. -- ReyBrujo 02:55, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Remove old rumors and speculations?

message: Is it just me, or does the Xbox 360 controller look like a rip off of the old Dreamcast controller? The anologue stick, with a digital pad beneath it, ABXY buttons. What do you think? Saxsux 15:11, May 21, 2005 (UTC)
:I remember people saying exactly the same thing about the original Xbox controller.Sockatume 15:57, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say most of the conventional button arrangements have been covered, there's not really much room for innovation, short of the rumoured Nintendo Revolution "buttonless" controller.Tzarius 00:20, 24 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Xbox 360 and Dreamcast

message: The statement about not having a hard drive on its basic unit: "and hindering Xbox Linux (http://www.xbox-linux.org/) from running" is not proven. Microsoft hasn't stated that there will be no hard drive or the rumor of having multiple versions of the next Xbox. I will only get rid of Xbox Linux statement because it is not a NPOV. The hard drive could also be used as pirated tool. I think Microsoft would be worried about game piracy that takes money away from them with license fees than having an user using a different operating system on their video game console system. --Anonymous Cow 19:18, 10 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: I like Linux as much as the next guy however...

message: There is a "purported leak" at . I don't know how real it is, but it sounds interesting and is quite detailed. Thue | talk 13:55, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The general agreement from most well informed people is that both systems will be evenly matched. The key differences between the two systems is the unified shader and eDRAM daughter die for the x360. MS has taken the approach of making it relatively easy to get good performance out of the console. The PS3 may be a little more complex, but if the developers are able to overcome this complexity the performance may exceed what the x360 is capable of. What this may result in is most games for the x360 being very good graphics quality, where with the PS3 most games will be good to very good quality, and a some will be excellent quality. The problem about determining qualities however is that this generation will produce a stunning level of quality, making it difficult to tell the difference between what I call good and excellent quality. For example in the 2D generation the increase of colors from 16 to 256 to 4096 were all very staggering. Where the increase from 16535 to millions of colors is a large leap, most casual users may not even notice the difference. In addition it is hard to tell at this point what sort of performance the x360 will have as the approach to graphics processing is very much different than anything that has been tried before. --Thax 21:47, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Detailed Xbox 2 specs leak

message: http://www.maxconsole.com/?mode=comments&newsid=2584
132.205.15.4 19:57, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some pics, via SlashDot 

message: http://outerspace.terra.com.br/videos/xbox360_mtv_spot.mov
http://www.outerspace.com.br/imgs_os/news/2005/xbox360_mtv_1.gif
http://www.outerspace.com.br/imgs_os/news/2005/xbox360_mtv_2.gif --Mateusc 02:08, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  MTV spot 

message: Like the new image for the Xbox 360. Well done to whoever contributed this. • Thorpe • 20:13, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Impressive new image 

message: On the official Xbox 360 site it says
Overall System Floating-Point Performance * 1 teraflop
However the wikipedia site has 1 teraflop under the CPU section. Can someone who knows more decide whether the 1 TFLOPs is CPU only, or CPU + GPU? -- Zaak (unsigned)
* Good point. I'm not a computer hardware expert but I think you're correct because the "Overall System Floating-Point Performance" table row appears after they mention the CPU, GPU, and memory detail specifications. --Chill Pill Bill 16:05, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  1 TFLOPS? 

message: * 1 TFLOP <- original text
No. A 1 TFLOP machine can possibly enter the world's top 500 list (http://www.top500.org/lists/plists.php?TB=5&M=11&Y=2004). This section is totally wrong. -- Toytoy 14:15, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
** Unfortunately, you are the one that is mistaken.  The Top 500 list is based on SUSTAINED Dual-Precision FLOPS.  Sony and MS are using peak FLOPS, and that includes ops from the GPU pipelines.  Terrapin 22:13, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed: Overall System Floating-Point Performance