Talk:Mary the Jewess

message: Is there a reference for placing her in the third century? Most of the internet sources I've found (researching women in science) place her in first or second. Espresso Addict 04:22, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Somebody please get over here and cite that whole "sister of Moses" thing, or I'm going to delete it.  I can think of no evidence to support that someone in the 3rd (or even the 1st) century A.D. could be anything like a sister to (the prophet, Biblical) Moses.  I know nothing about this woman and am reluctant to nuke stuff myself, so I'd rather someone fiddle who's more knowledgable/invested.  But I'll do it if I have to!  Sugarbat (talk) 05:06, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Moses must have lived for much longer than I thought

message: I added a ref for this. I will look for a better one.J8079s (talk) 19:17, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Except for the cite listed I find no support for Pliny young or old mentioning her. J8079s (talk) 01:10, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pliny  

message: I removed the claim that she is considered the first non-fictional alchemist, as the source was merely one book which doesn't hold any authority. For all I know, Maria might have not even existed, just like Hermes or Isis, both of whom were mentioned by Zosimos of Panopolis as other divine alchemical inspirations (hence the legends that she was the sister of Moses). Pseudo-Democritus lived before this Mary anyway so he would be the "first alchemist", even though alchemy was clearly practiced by the ancient Greeks through the Hermes-alchemy cult that had been developing from BC in Ptolemaic Egypt. This is manifested by the Hermes-cult texts about alchemy from Ptolemaic Egypt that predate the supposed writings of Mary. (<-unsigned... 69.89.105.69)
:Hi there. What's the source for giving Pseudo-Democritus before Mary?  It'd be great to iron that out for sure.  I know no academic source that verifies a Hermes-alchemy cult, BC.  As for the source, Patai is a good one... better than the brittanica article.  I'm going to restore deleted points.  Maybe we can put citation needed marks against the points called into question and work from there? Car Henkel (talk) 14:00, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book Claim 

message: I've just reverted some changes in the article to Maria as the title and article should match, but I've no objections to a change in the title but WP:COMMONNAME must be followed for any change. Dougweller (talk) 07:05, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mary or Maria in title? 

message: Currently [December 2021] the article states that;
George Syncellus, a Byzantine chronicler of the 8th century, presented Mary as a teacher of Democritus, whom she had met in Memphis, Egypt, during the time of Pericles.
This is an interesting factoid but it makes no sense. If Mary the Jewess lived between the first and third centuries A.D., as stated, then how she could have met Democritus which lived between the 460 B.C and the 370 B.C. there's around half a millenia separating them. It could be said that he was referring to another Democritus but making it the Periclean Democritus it is obvius this is wrong. If George Syncellus mistook all those dates and people it would be nice to explain this in the article since we really know Mary the Jewess could have never been the teacher of Democritus.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.0.7.30 (talk) 13:22, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Several time incongruencies