Talk:Aqua (user interface)

message: I removed the screencap of the Brushed Metal skin (which is already on the Brushed Metal article). This article is about Aqua. It's really confusing for readers who never seen either skins when they see there are two screencaps on top of each other, especially when the non-topical Brushed Metal is on top of the topical Aqua screencap. For comparison, one should just click on Brushed Metal. And I note, in Brushed Metal article, there's only the Brushed Metal screencap, no Aqua. So why would the Aqua article have both? Not very balanced. --Menchi 00:05, 10 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Screencap Removal

message: Some of the folks at Windows Vista and Windows Aero are consistently removing commentary about the similarity of Vista/Aero to OS X/Aqua.  Any help there would be appreciated. -- Gnetwerker 20:26, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know, and really feel sick at some of those comments. But why is "Windows Aero" under See Also when it isn't even mentioned in the article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Semicolons (talk • contribs) 10:53, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Windows Aero 

message: Should some mention be made that the theme is more similiar to the System 7 window style than Mac OS 8's platinum? -- Steven Fisher 20:14, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: aqua is more system 6 than system 7 imo. coincidentally, system 7 was the first major revision of the mac operating system apple undertook without steve jobs in charge.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 21:02, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  System 7 

message: I added the new screenshot instead of the screenshot of Xcode because I thought it gave a better idea of what the widgets looked like. It has the same license and and image format... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.118.198.115 (talk) 00:26, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good!  This is a fine representation of the component parts of the Aqua user interface.  -/- Warren 01:07, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I have to disagree. It's awesome that all of the widgets are in there, but it's a brushed metal window, not an Aqua window. Could you put up a version with a normal window? Shinyplasticbag 03:29, 24 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Maybe consider replacing the IB 2.5 window at the top with a similar screenshot of Aqua controls from Leopard? It would make sense to have the main image as the most up to date one, and some fairly significant changes have happened. Round rect buttons, square buttons, etc. Semicolons (talk) 07:30, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Would  be better, or does it need to be changed before it can be used? :Image:AquaControls.pngSemicolons (talk) 10:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New screenshot 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Leopard Menu Bar Icons.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Pages Sheet.png

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message: I always thought the Dock was part of OS X, not Aqua – it's an application, not an object/class. Semicolons (talk) 07:47, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dock? 

message: To me, Sidebar suggests a tool palette at the side of a window – the "sidebars" are actually just source lists, a type of table. It is still very rare to find controls in the sidebar.Semicolons (talk) 07:52, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sidebar? 

message: Several things to change:Sheets can be NSPanel as well as NSWindow.
NSToolbar – Unified parameter is only effective in Tiger
Menus -mention NSMenu and NSMenuItem?
Keyboard shortcuts can also appear on non-application menus, but can only be used with third-party software (except for the Apple menu).
NSDatePicker has a graphical style
Mention that some control styles (such as bevel buttons) are discouraged by Apple due to interface changes?
Rewrite bit on sliders – circular ones can have tick marks, linear ones can be vertical and horizontal and have tick marks on either side.
Drag and drop in colour wells?
You can turn of bouncing icons for application launching, but there's still animation – the blue light pulsates.
Suck is most commonly enabled with the Terminal's "defaults" command – hardly "hand-editing" a configuration file.
Surely "Suck" is just the name given to it by the Mac community? If it's undocumented, how do we know what it's called?
Front Row animation gone in Leopard :(
Animation: Most Finder windows have this zoom effect – from Quick Look to Get Info.
"Metal, Unified, or Leopard" – no, sheets can come out of all windows. It is also better to talk about "textured", not "metal" – Metal windows in Leopard are still Textured, but in a very different way.
"Many of these effects can be turned off by the user" – how, exactly?
How about a word on NSPanel (HUD or otherwise), NSScrollView, NSDrawer, NSRuleEditor, NSPredicateEditor, NSStepper,NSSearchField,NSSegmentedControl, NSPathControl, NSLevelIndicator, NSProgressIndicator, NSSplitView, and anything else that should go in a list of "all Cocoa interface elements".
A word on boxes being able to draw lines?
Semicolons (talk) 10:47, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cocoa controls 

message: Wikipedia is not meant as a documentation of the Aqua interface, but as an encyclopaedic article that anybody should understand. What the hell is NSMatrix, NSTokenField, etc.? This is not at all explained in the article, and just information that you might need as a developer. However, developers can easily just take a look in the documentation to find their info. Wikipedia is NOT meant as a documentation. It would be better to remove this technical information to make the article understandable better. Just look at the Windows Aero article, they don't need any of this technical babbling to explain what Aero is and does. Neither does this article. I hope I get some input on this; otherwise I might just bluntly remove that information by myself. --79.93.179.56 (talk) 16:58, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technical information overflow 

message: Somebody might want to explain how Aqua is incorporated into iPhone OS for the iPhone and iPod touch.  Aqua is typically used on application icons as well as page headers inside of applications.
69.255.16.132 (talk) 21:31, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  iPhone + iPod touch 

message: Someone needs to add a section talking about the GUI changes to Aqua in Snow Leopard. These would include dark contextual menus in the Dock and transitions to dark window boarders for certain windows (such as Quick Time X). Althepal (talk) 01:43, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Snow Leopard 

message: No one mentioned that Aqua has been reworked for Mac OS X Lion (for example the rectangular buttons and how the scrollbar changed). Why? --Wernjump (talk) 02:49, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lion? 

message: I think someone should upload the cocoa controls from Lion because there are subtle UI changes that should be shown  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.121.78.147 (talk) 04:54, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  OS X Lion was released 

message: I find it quite questionable that Aqua is even mostly written in C++. At least there should be a reference for this.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bail Fetter (talk • contribs) 15:10, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's gone from the article. Not aware of any sources for this. AlistairMcMillan (talk) 00:20, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  As it is a graphical user interface, Aqua is mostly "written" in Photoshop and Maya  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pantser (talk • contribs) 15:20, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  C++ 

message: Shouldn't Lion and Mountain Lion's tweaks be put in the article. The buttons were changed in Lion, and the dock was changed in mountain lion. Jedieaston (talk) 18:42, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mountain Lion 

message: Are there some names which have been involved in the artistic design of Aqua, maybe Jonathan Ive? User:ScotXWt@lk 17:42, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Best I can find is Kocienda's Creative Selection (2018). In chapter 2, set soon after the release of Mac OS X, he says Forstall was director of Platform Experience and in charge of the Mac UI among other things. I'm guessing that means he was involved with Aqua. The book doesn't mention Aqua so isn't usable as a source, but it's a good starting point for deeper searches. DFlhb (talk) 18:56, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Found one!   But hopefully a more detailed source can be found. DFlhb (talk) 19:08, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names of the designers 

message: As far as I can see, Aqua is a theme (computing) like Adwaita is one: http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/?content=144237 User:ScotXWt@lk 21:40, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: True, but the  theme (computing) article seems to indicate that a theme needs to be dynamically loaded, a kind of plug-in; for something to be "themable" there needs to be a choice of themes. And that doesn't hold for macOS, does it? TorLillqvist (talk) 07:51, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aqua (user interface) vs Aqua (theme) 

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