Talk:Multitude (philosophy)

message: Spinoza's use of the term goes back at least to Hobbes (“Citizens, when rebelling against the State, are the multitude against the people” Hobbes, 1642, XII, 8), so calling it 'Spinoza's term' is somewhat misleading.
:It goes further back: Hardt & Negri cite William of Ockham as saying Ecclesia est multitudo fidellum ("the Church is the multitude of the faithful"). Qwertyus 12:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC)

message: i agree with the comment made above. . .i was motivated to make this comment here to express the same sentiment.  since the lengthy pedigree of the concept of multitude has already been mentioned, i will just comment here that for negri, the work of machiavelli on the concept of the multitude is, if not as crucial to him as spinoza's, of an extremely important nature to his work. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dykun (talk • contribs) 20:53, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  multitude indeed goes much further back than spinoza 

message: "Multitude is a political term first used by Machiavelli" - er, no. It's a word for the masses used at least as early as the first book of the Hebrew Bible.  As it stands, this article is bonkers.  It either needs editing by somebody who can make clear the article is about a political system; or it needs deleting.  Croakfoods (talk) 07:18, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is bonkers 

message: Hi. Caveat: no idea what I'm doing. I'm going to make a few changes to the start of the section, but I think someone with more skill with wikipedia than I should make some general corrections. The issue with the start of this article is that the term 'multitude' gains certain qualities with the work of Machiavelli that is distinct from the uses of the term by the Stoics or the Bible. I am unfamiliar with these uses of the term, and cannot elaborate on them very much. This would indicate to me that the Italian Marxist discussions of the multitude, including the use of the term in immanent philosophies, is one that has to be separated from the broader use of the word. Such clarification will need to be performed by someone else. 128.250.0.78 (talk) 05:03, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  New user attempting to correct details 

message: This is incorrect...Spinoza only uses multitude in the Political Treatise. The term doesn't even appear in the Theological-Political Treates, where he uses vulgas - people, masses...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kbozbj (talk • contribs) 18:51, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The multitude is used as a term and implied as a concept throughout Spinoza's work" 

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