Talk:Bay Ridge, Brooklyn

message: This article is in need of some serious NPOV clean up. It is littered with statements that are biased and is not written in an encyclopaedic tone. Páll (Die pienk olifant) 09:19, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up 

message: I would be more than happy to remove the portion about the Islamic Society of Bay Ridge. I've researched and written another article, directly related to this topic, called Shahawar Matin Siraj describing the attempted subway plot of 34th Street Herald Square. However, I feel that this entire issue, however controversial, is simply a conservative-liberal debate:
*The Anti-Arab Sentiment I was able to describe was real and did occur. It has since been deleted by a more conservative user who felt that this was an inaccurate description of the neighborhood sentiment or the attempt of a user to portray the neighborhood in a more negative sense. 
*Likewise, the Islamic Society of Bay Ridge was also deleted several times because it "lacked adequate facts." I disagree because I have factual evidence to the contrary, quoting New York Times articles. The same is true of the Anti-Arab sentiment, but no one was willing to side with the New York Times article that I showed as proof. Why someone would want to have one but not the other is rather clear in my mind, but I would like an explanation about why the two positions are not accurate and not deserving of their place on this article. 
Concerning the Islamic Society of Bay Ridge, it would probably do best if given a separate article, and, as it received great media coverage following 9/11, I think it is of sufficient importance to do so. Looking at other articles, I do not see as much contemporary politics as I do in this one, confirming my suspicions that the Islamic Society of Bay Ridge section would be best in another article.
However, as a provision to future editors, I strongly urge you to read and research the topic before you act emotionally and delete my work. I provide a strong case in all that I write and encourage others to do the same.
Sincerely,
--Screwball23 talk 22:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe there's no reason to, but apparently, some do (see the vandalism I just reverted). --Irn (talk) 23:19, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Islamic Society of Bay Ridge 

message: Once again, someone has messsed with the links. If you want to add a link, do so and put it at the end. Blogs are not permitted in links. Advertising (ie. BR Prep) is not permitted. What if everyone decided to use the links to advertise their business? Please show some respect when editing this page. 10 February 2008  --
I see that there is some fighting about the links.  Please remember that Wikipedia is not a links repository.  It is an encyclopedia.  All links should be informative, and by that I mean telling you more about the neighborhood.  Photo sites are fine, and forums are fine.  Advertising and politics are not.  The page is not being ruined by taking out links, because the article is not about the links, it is about the information being presented directly on the page.  Which, I may add, could be better.  -- Lampbane 18:41, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links 

message: I changed "working class" in the first sentence of the "Life" section to "middle class." Bay Ridge is most definitely a middle class neighborhood, a kind that's becoming less and less common in Brooklyn (hence the second part of that sentence is correct). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 162.83.151.57 (talk) 07:51, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Still there was clearly a demographics shift. If I remember correctly the neighborhood used to be mostly Scandinavian at one point. Obviously this is far from the case today despite the Norwegian Day Parade. There does seem to be a sort of erosion of certain cultural heritage in the area. Sunset Park's shift is clear to identify, it's just not Irish-Polish at all anymore. Bay Ridge's shift is more than ethnic. The area has a disproportionate number of Christian churches which seems a strange contrast to the large number of Jewish and Muslim residents now living in the area.  JRWalko 14:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Strange contrast? Not at all. About 40% of the neighborhood is Irish or Italian. There are also a large number of Greek and Lebanese Christians.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.247.131.60 (talk) 01:50, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle Class 

message: I have a number of peeves with the Life section to this article. The points that disturb me are sometimes subjective, so I am reluctant to step in with corrections until I can obtain some feedback. Whether you strongly affirm my views or believe them clearly in error, it would be good to hear from you. Your responses will decide whether (and how) I make changes to the article.
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There is some discussion about the presence of Arabs that has been removed from this article. In fact, while no one would describe BR as a predominantly arabic neighbourhood, there has been a distinctive arab presence in BR since shortly before 1900 (e.g. in the form of arab grocery stores). These early Arab residence were exclusively Christian refugees from the Levant - Lebannon and Syria (at that time still one country) - escaping war and religious persecution. 
Beginning in the early 80s a large influx of culturally distinctive Arab Moslem began appearing. The addition of Arab muslims to ethnic mix is certainly the most conspicuous change in BR in recent years. As such, it is misleading (not to say ingenuous) to compare their role with other groups, e.g. the Scandanavians, whose community at one time was centred at almost the same location (near 69th Street), but which today is moribund. 
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One article entry:
There is also a thriving bar scene, with residents frequenting the Irish pubs ..
This made me laugh. It must have been written by an estate agent, I guess. Bay Ridge certainly does have plenty of bars, but to talk about a "thriving bar scene" really gives the wrong impression. BR bars are generally filthy, dimly lit drink holes, where sullen, uncommunicative divorced men sit nursing their $1 beers (generally served with a free cockeroach)..
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This section states that 20+% of the population of BR is over 60. I was surprised to find out that this merits BR's designation as a retirement community of sorts. Is this percentage of oldsters then so different from neighbouring communities or the overall demographics of the US?
--Philopedia 18:25, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finding Fault with ''Life'' 

message: I am trying to find information about Bay Ridge Hospital which apparently has closed. I think it was located on Ovington Ave. My grandfather, Dr. John P. McQuillin was the founder and my grandmother, Bess Mettler McQuillin, was Supervisor of Nurses. 
Norman McQuillin  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.244.108.208 (talk) 19:35, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bay Ridge, Brookly, NY 

message: There's a picture of St. Michael's church (third picture down, on right column side). I only lived in the Ridge for a few years -- no seriously, I am not being obsequious, there are more informed Brooklynites out there than me so tell me if I am wrong --- but I thought that was in Sunset Park. Like in the 30s...i drove up 4th ave. most mornings, and that slightly vulgar shaped dome was NOT in the ridge. Am I crazy?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.89.248.73 (talk) 05:01, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:   St. Michael's Church 

message: I don't like the exposed markups for the bus links in the transportation section. I tried to get rid of one of them, but it proved to be disastrous, so I cancelled that edit. ---------User:DanTD (talk)  03:31, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  MTA Buses 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Bay Ridge is a central focus of many issues of the 'Gwenpoole' comic book from Marvel Comics. Lots42 (talk) 18:23, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular Culture