Talk:Cross of Burgundy

message: Including the Catholic League, Wallenstein's army and even some Bavarian colours_"http://miniaturasmilitaresalfonscanovas.blogspot.com.es/2011/08/la-guerra-de-los-treinta-anos-las.html". Both Austria and Spain were under Habsburg rulers.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 10:02, 8 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Thirty Years' War]]: Imperialist Austrian Army  and Allies 

message: Odd flag. Spanish Army Museum (Madrid). According to "Ristre", a Spanish magazine on military history. Miguel Hidalgo's peasant army. An alleged war trophy taken by the Spanish Royalist Army.___"http://elrincondecarlos-miniaturas.blogspot.com.es/2013/03/accion-de-acatita-de-bajan-1811.html"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 11:28, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Mexican Blue Cross of Burgundy (1811) 

message: The reference to Pedro de Ayala's theory on the Scottish origin of the cross of Burgundy is interesting but lacks evidence. What we know FOR SURE is that the Parisian supporters of John the Fearless early in the 15th century used a Parisian parish dedicated to Saint Andrew as their rallying point, that their badges were a green hood and a plain Saint Andrew's cross with a fleur-de-lys, and that Burgundy is under the patronage of Saint Andrew. John the Fearless's own personal badge was a carpenter plane, to make derisory fun of a rival whose badge was a  raguly pal. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 11:42, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scottish reveries 

message: Current Spain. Roman Catholics and Carlists, basically an anti-abortionist group-"http://www.cruzdesanandres.org"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 12:06, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asociación Cruz de San Andrés 

message: The cross of Burgundy seems to have been displayed by some 17th-century Polish units. Krakow Guild Militia_"http://www.armchairgeneral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111519"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.8.98.118 (talk) 12:39, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poland, 17th century 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Count of Tyrol. A lesser Habsburg. Image from his mausoleum._"http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fichier:Silberne_Kapelle_-_Armoiries_de_Ferdinand_II_de_Tyrol.JPG"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.37.211.145 (talk) 13:10, 29 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coats of arms of [[Ferdinand II, Archduke of Austria]] 

message: The coats of arms of the Lords of Lipa or Leipa (von Ronow, a.k.a. Rovnoci) in the Middle Ages: a black raguly saltire on yellow field. Unrelated to the cross of Burgundy, but same design. See Česká Lípa, Cvikov, Bohdalov, Havlíčkův Brod, Krompach, Vrochovany, Blatce, Mařenice, Dyjakovice, Stružnice, Horni Libchava, Kokorín, Ctidruzice, Castohotice, Bat Novice, Místek, Šluknov, Budějovice, Uštěk , Polná, Zákupy, Cerveá Hora, Rencine, Stremy, Ořechov, Žďár Nad Sázavou...With doubts: Šonov.
:::"http://www.heraldique-europeenne.org/Armoriaux/Gelre/F33v.htm"
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:::"http://cs.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soubor:Pecet_z_Lipe_1316.jpg" 
:::And Oybin in Saxony (Germany). And Seifhennersdorf & Neustadt in Sachsen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.61.230.190 (talk) 12:26, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Czech coat of Arms (13th century)

message: St. Austell (red raguly saltire) and Restormel (blue raguly saltire). As usual: same design as the cross of Burgundy.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.61.230.190 (talk) 12:26, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: "http://www.staustellrunningclub.co.uk" & A.F.C. St Austell — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.61.230.190 (talk) 10:46, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cornwall 

message: The badge of this British destroyer named after the battle of Gravelines (1588) displayed what seems to be a cross of Burgundy_"http://www.militaryfigures.co.uk/royal-navy/hms-ships-badges/hms-ships-badges-g"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.99.89.51 (talk) 15:20, 27 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: My guess: the lion represents Lord Howard of Effingham (it was his heraldic crest), and the cross of Burgundy represents the Spanish Armada, put to flight by the English fireships off Gravelines.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.37.84.125 (talk) 11:11, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[HMS Gravelines]] (1946) 

message: Sure? Any source?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.99.89.51 (talk) 16:19, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''The new región of Bourgogne-Franche-Comte will use the Cross of Burgundy in its flag'' 

message: According to the Wikipedia's Flags of the Imperial Austrian Army of the Napoleonic Wars, the Austrian 55th Infantry Regiment (Murray's) bore a cross of Burgundy on its regimental colours.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.43.247.38 (talk) 13:08, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Walloon Regiment in the Austrian Army, Napoleonic Wars 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I think there's an error in the "examples of use\in spain". It refers to the cross of Burgundy being "The current fin flash on all the aircraft from the Spanish Armed Forces except the ones in the Navy, is a simplified monochrome version of the Cross of Burgundy", with an accompanying photo and reference to the spanish air force website.
But I think this may be wrong in two ways:
#The the archived reference says that the fin flash is intended to represent the cross of saint andrew, not a simplified version of the cross of Burgundy;
#As far as I can see, regardless of what cross it is meant to represent, it seems that the black-and-white fin flash is present on all spanish non-navy aircraft, and possibly never present on Spanish Navy aircraft. Perhaps the cross of saint andrew is the fin flag of all spanish aircraft, except for ones in the navy where there is no fin flash.
I'm new to wikipedia editing, and I'm a little apprehensive deleting this passage. I'll leave it to people who are more familiar with this article.
Thanks! :)
--Etsrtr (talk) 09:18, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cross as Spanish Fin Flash