Category talk:WikiProject The Beatles

message: Not to be like, claiming to be "bigger than Jesus" or anything, but The Beatles are a bit more than just "musicians" and I support staying at the top level, as we were. Good revert, Steve. ++Lar: t/c 20:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The top level, :Category:WikiProjects, has stuff like "history", "geography", "culture", etc... then The Beatles. Not even :Category:WikiProject Jesus gets listed there! :P I think it's just good sense to list it under :Category:Music WikiProjects (not under :Category:WikiProject Musicians, as it had been before Steve's revert). Flowerparty☀ 00:41, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I see what you're driving at now, I suppose. The Beatles are more than just music though. I could see Culture perhaps? I'd support Music before Musicians at any rate. There aren't any other individual band projects yet I don't think, so what is done here may set precedent. Thanks for clarifying. ++Lar: t/c 02:16, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Music is fine. We don't want to be reignite the bigger than Jesus thing now do we?! :) I'd have no great problem with us being in a  category of "Musician WikiProjects" too*; what I'm not happy with - and fortunately it seems that the 2 other Project members who have spoken up agree with me, because I did think I might be waking up to a flamefest :) - is being subordinate to another WikiProject, which their category name and Project page currently implies. The reasons for this I've already outlined on Project talk and it's nothing to do with personal ownership, ego or anything like that. --kingboyk 04:47, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh sorry for the hasty double post - WikiProject Queen has just started so we're no longer alone :). I'll go over and alert them to our Project and offer our help. --kingboyk 04:54, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

text: "Ego swollen miscategorisation"??? Not likely to be helpful as a conversational style, I'm afraid. Queen being a new project isn't really a good example I don't think. ++Lar: t/c 15:25, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: lol at "Ego swollen miscategorisation". I've tweaked :Category:WikiProject Musicians but the fact remains that it makes our Project a division of theirs. I don't find that acceptable. :Category:Musician WikiProjects would be OK. --kingboyk 15:44, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "WikiProject Musicians" is synonymous with "Musician WikiProjects" under the current organizational structure in use at :Category:WikiProjects. The only entries that use the "X WikiProjects" rather than "WikiProject X" structure are ones that appear at the top level, and the only reason there are relics that break this structure is because :Category:Music WikiProjects and :Category:Religion WikiProjects and the like used to be top-level, before they were placed under :Category:Culture WikiProjects by another user. If it makes you happy, I'll gladly fix that oversight so it's clearer (though it should already be perfectly clear for anyone who goes through the categorization system much; see :Category:WikiProject Novels, for example) that something being categorized under the WikiProject doesn't make it a part of the WikiProject, it makes its topic something related to that WikiProject's topic. Remember that these categories exist for users: for people who don't necessarily know where everything is already. Such a user would expect the Beatles to be listed as a musician, not as a "cultural fixture" or anything as vague as that. -Silence 16:03, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, thanks. That goes some way towards placating me, dunno about the other members. --kingboyk 16:07, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

text: You're really meant to take unwanted categories to WP:CFD rather than just empty out, but never mind. --kingboyk 16:39, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Guess I better do too, then. (and no, The Beatles are not my fave band either. Just the most important band ever) ++Lar: t/c 16:35, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. --kingboyk 16:40, 28 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah, enough already. I've made a few changes here and there but beyond that "K Cera Cera". --kingboyk 16:39, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
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