Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket/Archive 31

message: Can someone check the validity of this article? It is not written very well and seems to be only be based on one source. GizzaChat © 09:18, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Aha. This article is from before the Indian tour of Pakistan in 2004 and this so called 'teesra' was a subject of numerous jokes in messageboards at the time. The special thing about this ball was that after pitching infront of the batsman (usually Sehwag) it used to land in the crowd. Saqlain scored a double century in 43 overs as a bowler in that match and hasn't played Tests since. Tintin 10:02, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a shame Sehwag couldn't continue sending balls into the crowd during the World Cup and in other matches recently. :) I wonder whether the article should be AFD'd, especially since I doubt anyone will try to bowl it ever again. GizzaChat © 10:47, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

text: He is too fat to be of any use now :-) Bowlers boasting about mystery deliveries is nothing new (Kaneria has talked about his at least on two seperate occasions) and IMO, there is no need for an article unless the bowler has something to show for his claim and the term comes into common use. Neither is true here. Tintin 11:39, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Teesra]] 

message: Although I've been in this project for some time, I've never before come across  in which I see that The Ashes is <quote>Definitive. Outstanding, thorough article; a great source for encyclopedic information<unquote>.  Someone is pulling our legs here!
The Ashes article is littered with "please expand" tags and rightly so, especially in terms of the series overviews.  
To improve the article, concentrate on the urn and its origin and the so-called "legend" but leave the series overviews right out of it apart from supplying links to the appropriate England v Australia categories.  
In fact, reading the article without the series overviews, it is actually very good.  So there is the way forward.  --BlackJack | talk page 18:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[The Ashes]] 

message: I have just tried to add a comment to the talk page of this article and have come up against a spam filter block that will not allow me to save: see this!
I do not believe this is a legitimate block especially as the page is somewhat controversial.  Can one of you with admin functions please investigate and report what is going on here?  Thanks.  --BlackJack | talk page 19:42, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's okay, there was a rogue website quoted earlier in the page so I removed the reference an dit now works.  --BlackJack | talk page 21:45, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Muttiah Muralitharan 

message: Are we going to let this one die too?--ThugChildz 08:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Mainly adding more references in the correct format.--ThugChildz 00:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:CCOTM]] 

message: According to user Rafa1892 Pat Pocock once had sex with a donkey.  Does the Surrey County Cricket Club section have a section specialising in interspecies erotica?  And if not, why not? Nick mallory 06:44, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rafa1892 

message: I want to encourage everyone who is writing for the Cricket Project, please avoid the wikilik Ashes, as it dose not go to The Ashes cricket series, but to a disambiguation page with the many other uses of the term instead.  Please use the link The Ashes or Ashes when referring to the series.  Thanks! --Knulclunk 02:59, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Ashes Disambiguation 

message: For some strange reason this category uses "venues" in its title while all the other 19 categories in :Category:Cricket grounds use "grounds".
Can one of you with admin facilities please do a speedy rename?  Thanks.  --BlackJack | talk page 13:43, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I think the one ground in the category should be moved to :Category:Cricket grounds in the West Indies and the category deleted. We don't have subcategories for all the different countries/territories that make up the West Indies, so why should we for Grenada? Andrew nixon 13:49, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we need to have a cricket specific policy that for geographical entities we separate on nations and not nation-states =Nichalp «Talk»= 17:53, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Category:Cricket venues in Grenada]] 

message: The template has been messed up for some while now and I don't know how to fix it. Could someone take a look at it please? Cheers 
Crickettragic April 11
:Taken a look. It's odd. Image was originally pointing to the wrong place (although you only changed that recently), change it back and the image is no longer a red link but it won't actually show the image. What I also noticed was: the same problem occurs on the 2003 page *and* the Irish cricket team: which has a different flag to that of it's nation. This suggests it's actually an error in the Template:National_squad. I'm looking there now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by AllynJ (talk • contribs) 01:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems someone picked up on this just yesterday: see Template_talk:National_squad#flag_request for more details, have alerted to the problem and pointed at the examples that are currently an issue. AllynJ 01:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  West Indies template 

message: Friends, I have a technical question. I've got an image of John Thayer (cricketer) in .bmp format. I manipulated it in MSPaint, and now cannot get it into a .jpg format or anything else that I can upload to the commons. Can anyone help? You can e-mail me if you'd like.--Eva bd 14:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have any other image manipulation software such as Irfanview, Paint.NET or GIMP? I wouln't advise you to save as JPG if the image is that old. =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:35, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I don't. Can I e-mail the image to someone else and have them work their magic?--Eva bd 14:45, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My gmail address is nichalp.wiki. =Nichalp «Talk»= 14:47, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! The images have now been uploaded and added to the commons page. One has also been added to the article.Your help was much appreciated, Nichalp.--Eva bd 18:21, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images in .bmp format 

message: On a separate but related note, I've had a copy-edit tag on Bart King since February. I've tried finding someone from the League of Copyeditors to take a look at it, but that fizzled out. I'm mostly hoping that an experienced editor can give John Barton King a solid and thorough copy edit before putting it up as an FAC. Any help on that front is also greatly appreciated.--Eva bd 14:22, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Catch hold of ALoan for copyediting. If you put up a PR, I can critique it for style and comprehensiveness. =Nichalp «Talk»= 15:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's had a Peer Review once before. I was going to relist it in a push for FAC after the general copy-edit. I'll see if ALoan has time.--Eva bd 17:00, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Bart King]] 

message: According to his page he played Test cricket for England between 1948 and 1955. No source is provided and a search of Cricinfo failed to find such a player. Could you guys take a look at it .. I think it is a fair candidate for deletion - --Crickettragic 15 April 2007
:Looks like this is a repetition of what happened with Jan du Plessis, who was created as a Test cricketer but was actually a businessman - see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket/Archive 30#Jan du Plessis. Anthony Pullinger is actually Deputy Director General of the Panel on Takeovers and Mergers. There might be enough information out there to write a decent stub about the chap, but otherwise this should be nommed for deletion as a hoax. →Ollie (talk • contribs) 14:47, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My bad, User:Crickettragic mentioned the he played Test cricket and I didn't look hard enough at the article to see otherwise. I jumped to the conclusion that it was the same prankster with some sort of business/cricket fascination. →Ollie (talk • contribs) 19:43, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree it's very unlikely to be malicious and I've no reason to doubt the chap exists/existed. Coincidentally there was a George Pullinger who did play first-class cricket for Essex in 1949 and 1950, so he would be presumably a contemporary. I'm not sure anyone is ploughing through Essex players in the same way that Nick is doing Yorkshire and User:Nigej is doing Somerset (and User:Loganberry has been doing Worcestershire over a long period). So the Pullingers will be unrepresented for a while. Johnlp 19:55, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Anthony Pullinger]] 

message: There's been some discussion prompted by User:Kelly Martin about WikiProjects endorsing candidates at RfA. This WikiProject is one of the most active and is quite forward-thinking. I'd like to think that we can do this without falling foul of WP:CANVASS (a problem raised at Kelly's talk page). Can I suggest that if any of us spot a member of the WProject at RfA we report it here and debate if the WProject wishes to endorse or not. By a) keeping the coversation here and b) the initial report NOT coming from the candidate, I think we can avoid Canvassing problems. Thoughts? --Dweller 10:38, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For your information, I'm not a "he".  Hope this helps. Kelly Martin (talk) 11:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Did you read what she proposed?  It doesn't sound like it from what you wrote above. The idea is that if the project sees someone doing great work they could nominate them for adminship.  It has nothing to do with endorsing candidates who are already in RfA.  Certainly it is not meant to be that Users become brown nosers in wikiprojects to try and score a nomination.  The hope is that people start focusing more on productive editing and a lot less on "how am I going to get to be an admin as soon as possible".  David D. (Talk) 12:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I read a great deal, without picking that up. I guess I'm tired. I don't like that idea at all. Shame. --Dweller 12:55, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't like the idea of projects nominating users for admin? How is that different to the current situation where a bunch of friends that hang out in wiki nominate each other repeatedly? I'm not saying this is true for all nominations but it was the case and is probably still the case. David D. (Talk) 17:11, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

text: You may well oppose it but its a better suggestion than the current clique and vanity mentality that tends to run rampant in wikipedia. David D. (Talk) 19:16, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Hear, hear re cliques. --BlackJack | talk page 06:11, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject support of candidates at RfA