Talk:List of lighthouses in Ireland

message: I am proposing this because Lightvessels in the Republic of Ireland was created in November 2002 as a list with one entry, and still is a list with one entry. I might add that the one entry in that list is for a lightship that went out of service in 1896, which makes placing that article in a list of Lightvessels in the Republic of Ireland anachronistic. -- Donald Albury(Talk) 14:16, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree: While you are correct that this page was made nearly 4 years ago there are many more lightvessels that could be added from this page. If anything, I think the page should at least be renamed as Lightvessels in Ireland to comply with the authority of the Commissioners of Irish Lights who cover the whole of Ireland for navigational aids. Alternatively, we could rename it Navigational aids in Ireland and then add the buoys and other aids the CIL is in charge of because Lighthouses in Ireland is already quite long and does not really need to be diluted with topics that do not comply with the page title. For myself I have been busy with other things so have not even addressed the red inked lighthouses much less the other navigational aids but if you have the enthusiasm and ability I will be happy to give it some input but not as a merge. ww2censor 16:14, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If there are a number of other lightvessels to add to the list, then that takes care of one objection I had. Moving the list to Lightvessels in Ireland would then take care of my other objection. -- Donald Albury(Talk) 02:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Disagree: (disagree with Dalbury; agree with Ww2censor). Distinct topics should form distinct articles. Yes, it needs more work, but keep it and expand it, don't bury it! Snalwibma 20:28, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that other lists do combine lighthouses and lightvessels. See List of lighthouses and lightvessels, Lighthouses and lightvessels in Australia, Lighthouses and lightvessels in Belgium, Lighthouses and lightvessels in Denmark, Lighthouses and lightvessels in Germany, Lighthouses and lightvessels in the Netherlands and Lighthouses and lightvessels in Sweden. I  know that some of the light stations I have written articles for have had an alternation of lighthouses and lightships on (more or less) the same station. There is nothing inherently wrong with listing lighthouses and lightvessels in the same list. We should avoid lists that are very short, and the question of whether or not to combine lighthouses and lightvessels in a list should depend on how long or short the list(s) will be. -- Donald Albury(Talk) 02:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Donald, you are correct about some combined articles but all those you list above are considerably shorter than Lighthouses in Ireland which, IMHO, is already rather long, hence my objection to combining lightvessels with lighthouses. I can only see it having to be divided later on, so why give ourselves more work. Lightvessels would include lightships and I would suggest also buoys, and as I have pointed out there is plenty more information on the Commissioners of Irish Lights website. ww2censor 02:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge '''Lightvessels in the Republic of Ireland''' to this article 

message: Could someone write an article about the maidens lighthouses —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Iainy (talk • contribs) 10:40, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Maidens 

message: Proposed Edit.
Both Ferris Point and Blackhead Lighthouse's are still maintained by the CIL. The attendant keeper for Ferris also maintains Blackhead and navigational harbour lights in Larne harbour including Chaine Tower. Larne Harbour Ltd, does have Radar equipment atop Ferris Point Lighthouse, but that is as far as their remit extends. The Irish Landmark Trust only maintains the old keeper dwellings at Blackhead not the Tower and navigational equipment. Glink187 20:16, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The information in the article was obtained from the CIL web site some time ago, so if you have a verifiable source then please amend the entries as appropriate quoting the source of the current data. Thanks ww2censor 17:25, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.cil.ie/sh676x4627.html Under section entitled Alternative uses of lighthouse property. Shows the extent of the uses of each station. Glink187 00:25, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please sign your posts and quote your source in the article. Thanks ww2censor 22:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ferris Point Lighthouse & Blackhead lighthouse. 

message: Should RNLI really have a link to this page? Both Instituions are completely seperate and unlinked. Glink187 13:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RNLI 

message: By combining the existing information with the data and images from the German list I have created a new sortable table for the CIL section. I removed Ferris Point and Kilcredaun as they are closed, and combined the two Valentia range lights into one. Clare Island was in the German list, but that is also a closed site so was taken out...Jokulhlaup (talk) 09:46, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks quite good but I would remove the CIL logo image where there is no current image. A blank might be more encouraging towards obtaining an image than the logo. BTW that logo looks like a rather modern design and therefore may not actually be a freely licenced as a derivative image even though the photo is properly licenced. What do you know about it's origins? While some lighthouses have been closed and are therefore not maintained by the CIL those that still exist should probably be listed somewhere in the article. I'm not familiar with Valentia. Are the two lights adjacent to one another or some way from one another? A look at Google satellite show me coordinates 51.933765, -10.321090 for what looks like a lighthouse on the north side of the island. Can you explain? ww2censor (talk) 10:07, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the comments. You are probably right about filling in the blanks with the logo, I will try it on my test page to see how it looks, but having only just finished it I don't want to change it straightaway. I used it as it was the lead image from the CIL page. I looked into the details of the Valentia Light, the CIL say it is now only a single directional light, rather than a set of range lights as was. Your coordinates are for Cromwell Point lighthouse which is on Valentia Island as well...Jokulhlaup (talk) 14:19, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The image might even be copyright but I'll dig around. If it is, then we cannot use it here at all and could only use it as a non-free in the main CIL article. So, the Valencia light is not a lighthouse but a navigational aid. I suspect the lede might mention non-lighthouse lights within the listing. So much for my geography of Valantia. Thanks ww2censor (talk) 16:25, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Having added a few more images and reduced the number of blanks, I have taken out the remaining logo images...Jokulhlaup (talk) 10:47, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I see that. Good job. Hopefully you can find some more images. ww2censor (talk) 10:48, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: BTW, I just found the current CIL logo here] and will upload it as a non-free image to this wiki. for the main article. ww2censor (talk) 10:58, 23 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Table 

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message: The non CIL listing was getting a little untidy due to the stack of images for those lights, so I have tabulated them instead. Working through Rowlett's lists, I only added those that were not bracketed [ie fell below the threshold for a lighthouse], and had a known operator and were active. This has meant a few sites have been removed, as they were inactive etc. Checking the lists reveals a number of closed sites which still have towers, I will tabulate those in due course...Jokulhlaup (talk) 13:55, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Table for Maintained by Others