Talk:Cello rock

message: Wikipedia:WikiProject Music/Notability and Music Guidelines? Hyacinth 22:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That does not address music genres. What to do? 151.203.70.241 18:00, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

text: A cello is a far cry from a kazoo, my friend. Try playing one of each some time. 151.203.70.241 18:00, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

text: My teacher once accused his cello of mating with a kazoo. It was having a bad voice day. 141.154.74.73 16:10, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes.
I agree that this should be taken out of the "rock subgenres" box. Bangadrian 02:48, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Notability

message: "Apocalyptica has caused a veritable musical revolution on the European continent." Bangadrian 02:47, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: This Sentence is Ridiculous

message: "The popularity of Cello rock is steadily on the rise, as artists such as Metallica and Marilyn Manson lend support to the fledgling groups"
Says who? Are there sources for what seems like a somewhat arbitrary statement? The Son Of Nothing 14:27, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Each group supporting one group dosen't meant support such groups...--Dryzen 18:11, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources? 

message: The list should probably be alphabatized or made its own article mcwiggin 18:22, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ordering of the list of cello rock bands 

message: As this article recently failed an Afd, I've done some revision to keep it in line with Wikipedia policies (most notably WP:OR). I've tried to keep in line with Just plain Bill said in his comment:
That said, I've reorganized/alphabetized the article, and deleted original research and content about the bands themselves—this belongs on the bands' individual pages. --CA387 22:10, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The basic description of the use of cellos in rock is factual and did not merit removal.  Badagnani 03:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's factual, then please cite your sources and demonstrate it. --CA387 05:53, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

text: The basic information in question is cited in the articles about the two most important groups, Apocalyptica and Rasputina. Other statements in the article are questionable (such as the statement that cello rock dates to the 1930s), and should be discussed here. Badagnani 06:00, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Upon looking for sources, I've yet to find anything to show that "Cello Rock" is anything more than rock bands with cellos—something stated by Just plain Bill. Keeping the links to the articles is certainly reasonable, but in quoting from the articles we do nothing but add original research. Both Apocalyptica and Rasputina are certainly notable—which is why the content in question should still be around: in their individual articles. At the present, without any context, we don't have much to gain by cutting and pasting various parts of the individual articles on this page. --CA387 06:11, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm not talking about any of that; I'm talking about the basic information about the genre. It's not "rock with cellos," as many groups use cello as a backup or adjunct instrument; it's the use of cello(s) as a primary melodic/harmonic instrument in rock. This article strives to document this in a thorough and accurate manner. Badagnani 06:14, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay, I've made that distinction in my edits. --CA387 16:05, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision 

message: Badagnani, I noticed you added two bands: Hyperion and Angaschmäng. I'm not familiar with either, but since neither are from my part of the world, I can't assume they're not notable. Would it be possible for you to cite reliable third-party sources to keep up the article's verifiability (or even better, create articles on both)? Thanks, CA387 16:06, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New bands

message: Beautiful, haunting cello rock. produced by Steve Albini and worthy of inclusion here 
69.237.154.10 (talk) 01:49, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Helen Money

message: You can't define a genre by the instruments used.  Using cellos as leads doesn't change the essential nature of the music, any more than playing a blues standard with a guitar makes it different from playing it with a harmonica.  Indeed, jazz and blues use a rather disparate set of instruments and there's not a new genre for any given set of leads.  It should be noted that some bands consider themselves cello rock (if they do), and if there's some substantial source claiming the existence of the genre, then I guess that's that, but as it is...
I realize this standpoint has been asserted before me, but I felt it should be restated solidly.  ASWilson 06:32, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is a pointless classification 

message: a Wikiproject Cello Rock, considering the number of bands in this genre? In terms of notability, Rasputina would be on top, they started it. -Red marquis (talk) 21:17, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't there be... 

message: Heavy Metal does not exist without any distorted guitars. No matter who says otherwise. Tried, sourced and true. It's the stone pillar, the one invulnerable rule of the genre. I agree to the possibility of Cello Rock seeing as we have other such genres as Piano Rock that go far back to the 50s.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.56.118.4 (talk) 03:03, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cello Metal is an oxymoron 

message: Why does this redirect to progressive rock? Cello rock in no way implies a band has any progressive elements, the page on progressive rock has NOTHING on cello use, and I see no consensus behind the decision. Ganondox (talk) 09:17, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed the merge template, as I can't see any support at all. Klbrain (talk) 06:37, 12 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect to Progressive Rock 

message: In its current state, this page seems like it would fit best under the cello in popular music, jazz, & world music section of the cello page & can be incorporated/redirected there. Any points of view on this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by AndrewBroz (talk • contribs) 19:21, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorporate & Redirect to Cello Page Section on Popular Music