Talk:William S. Harney

message: The harsh unsourced allegations in the "temperament" section should be individually verified or removed.  The claimed civilian court trial should have a verifiable record for example, as should the court martial proceedings.  The rape allegation should not be here without some sort of reference and some indication of the source so that readers can weigh it.
It's completely sourced... so I really have no idea what you are talking about. Re-added. ʄ!•¿talk? 04:36, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Temperament

message: I did some neutralization of the tone in the Civil War section.  There were a number of outright errors such as "state national guard" references.  (It was state militia until May 11, 1861, thereafter renamed the Missouri State Guard.)  It was also incorrect to state that Price was still "pro-Union" after the Camp Jackson Affair.  Biographies show he was Conditional Unionist until the riots in St. Louis.  The change is why Jackson appointed him to command the new MSG.  Finally, the "St. Louis Massacre" description seems to be the result of recent attempts at renaming and reshaping the event. Red Harvest (talk) 18:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tone and Factual Errors

message: If indeed Lincoln said it was a great mistake to remove Harney, then this needs to be cited properly or removed. I would seriously doubt too, that an officer whose career abounds with political mistakes (almost starting a war with Britain for example) would be beloved of Lincoln.140.161.86.159 (talk) 01:12, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lincoln loved him 

message: It seems as though their is a general anti William S Harney Tone to this page and it seems to me to be the product of a few biased pieces on Harney, anyone who lives in Florida or out west in the United states has William S. Harney to thank, and the entire United states has William S Harney to thank for him not joining in the Civil War on the side of the South, which could have arguably changed the outcome of the war, Lincoln did make said remark about Harney and here's your source(http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~harney2/General/military.htm).  And secondly the Harney bashers who have chose to embellish his Crimes section actually have conflicting sources which makes me wonder if any of the biased individuals attempting to re-write history here have any ground to stand on other than the inflammatory works of Hogan, are you familiar with his support at his own detriment of animal right, are you familiar with his self-less and often self-detrimental support of the Indians, are you familiar with the Indian attacks and torture and Mutilation of civilians during this period in history, History is not a soap Opera, and neither is War with a savage foe who does not distinguish between men and woman, military, or civilian.  So you can raise a ruckus over the people who put up Indian warriors and knowingly involved themselves in the confict(Ash Hollow), while you choose to forget about the hapless civilians looking for their free land out west, who were raped, scalped, and murdered, and whose corpses were summarily mutilated, this is just another example of ungrateful American's not respecting people who gave their blood sweat and tears to make this country what it is today, their weren't always drive through fast food restaurants, and dog groomers on every block, America was carved out by the will of men like William S Harney, and I think a little bit of respect is due before everyone forgets that our modern plush lives are the product of experiences that would make the worst of worst today look like a walk in the park.  Look up Kiowa forms of torture which included the mutilation of genitals using needle and thread for example, imagine a member of your family being subjected to this, imagine your uncle, a stage coach driver, being dragged off his seat and hatcheted, and having the top of his head sheared off with a knife just for kicks while he was still alive.  The Indians we know today were not the Indians of yesteryear, and if you'd be willing to be scalped or to have your genitals mutilated in the name of political correctness than I don't think you should be revising history.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.231.189.195 (talk) 01:59, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Anti- William S. Harney sentiments are misplaced 

message: I came across this last night while updating my computer as a library closed. I've cleaned it up this morning at a cafe, but don't know when I can finish the job. Clearly, Harney was a complex character, and I hope my revisions show that, even if I can't find his genealogy and links with slaveholding right off.Jweaver28 (talk) 18:13, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  More work needed