Talk:Eucharist/Archive 1

message: I have put the Catholic and Eastern Orthodox view first of all in order to make the first paragraph easier to understand. Also transubstantiation and consubstantiation are now at the end of the intro. Anyway, I think the article could do with a little polishing (only as regards to style, structure, etc...).
Hope the above helps. Pfortuny 20:07, 8 Dec 2003 (UTC)

message: There seems to be an obvious omission in the names, i.e. "Mass". In fact it's so obvious that I feel I may have missed something. Is there a technical reason to exclude "Mass" from the list of names? DJ Clayworth 18:21, 5 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I distinguished Mass from Eucharist in the names section. Samw 03:10, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)

text: Yes.  I referenced Webster's explanation under the names section.  Feel free to elaborate. Samw 03:10, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Afaik, Eucharist (Eucaristía in Spain) is meant to mean "thanksgiving" -the act of giving thanks-, but my greek is nothing to call home about. Pfortuny 07:45, 10 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Names

message: I'm going revert the "derive from Articles" back to "codify in Articles"; Protestants maintain that they derive their theology from Scripture and codify it in Articles.  Saying that they derive it from Articles would be like saying that Catholics derive their theology from canon law.
Sorry, that last was from me. JHCC 13:53, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, I see what you mean. I emphasized "derive from" because the different groups have differing sub-sets of the original articles, but "codify in" works equally well; my term emphasizes the historical progression of the use made of the articles, but "codify in" refers perhaps to the actual articles. Trc | [msg] 14:15, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Bingo.  JHCC 14:27, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)

text: There is a Wikipedia article "Articles of Faith" that contains only the Mormon "Articles".  Is anyone up to adding Anglican, Methodist, etc?  JHCC 14:30, 2 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles

message: Many of the Englsih Anglicans do not believe in the Real Presce, however those who do are known as Anglo-Catholics, as far as I know they either believe in consubstantiation, or that the bread just becomes blessed bread.
: It is actually a requirement for Anglicans to believe in the Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist according to an implied reading from the Articles of Religion. There is certainly however a range of Anglican views however, from transubstantiation (almost always Anglo-Catholics) to spiritual presence only (Reformed theology-following Anglicans). Most likely however, most would agree with both a bodily and spiritual presence of Christ. Valer 13:51, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Anglicans and Lutherans 

message: I propose a new article on Eucharistic discipline, in which we describe the various practices of preparation for the reception of Communion.  I know that the Catholics and Orthodox have different regulations for the length and type of fasting, frequency of confession, etc, but I'm not sure about Anglicans, Lutherans, Methodists, or other Protestants.  A short summary in this article would be good, and then in the main article, we could have quotations from Canon law, the Church Fathers, important writers, etc.  JHCC (talk) 13:42, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That could be a fine article; just make sure it links to Open communion and Closed communion.  KHM03 13:53, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Article created.  Calling all Eucharist article expanders!  JHCC (talk) 18:59, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: New section, maybe even new article