Talk:Cabinet of Canada

message: Just a comment. Harper's cabinet is (politically) right-wing, yet has anyone noticed the number of Ministers who are left-handed? GoodDay 23:28, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Right Wing cabinet

message: FYI - the official titles of ministers (verses what they are styled as) is now available as the cabinet is in the Gazette  - Jord 15:27, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cabinet now in the Gazette 

message: I added "Senator" to the names of Senators. Im not sure if Hon. Senator John Doe or if Senator the Hon. John Doe is correct, I've seen it both ways.  Keeperoftheseal 22:21, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A Senator who is not a privy councillor is know as "Hon. John Doe, Senator", one that is is known as "Senator the Hon. John Doe, P.C."... that said, you shouldn't include Senator on the table unless you are going to include the MP post nominals as well which I think makes it look cluttered. - Jord 22:30, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just did it to distingish which Senators were in cabinet, however, since the layout is awkward to say the least, ill take them out (if it hasnt been dont)  - Keeperoftheseal 02:59, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it makes sense to note which members of the cabinet are Senators. The tradition of responsible government means that the Prime Minister is expected to appoint those who have been elected to the House of Commons; Senators, obviously, are not elected, and do not sit in the House of Commons for Question Period, and so their inclusion in the cabinet is unusual and therefore noteworthy. --Todeswalzer|Talk 18:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you misunderstand responsible government.  By definition, it means the Crown will name a government that enjoys the confidence of an elected house; it does not mean that government needs to be made up of exclusively members of that place.  It is hardly "unusual and therefore noteworthy" for Senators to be in cabinet; every cabinet since Confederation, save one, has had a Senator in it.  Please see here for a list of Senators who have served in cabinet. - Jord 18:51, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While there is nothing out of the ordinary about having a couple senators in the cabinet, I think that many (or most) people reading this list would be interested in knowing which members were in the senate and which were members of the House.  It seems very noteworthy even if common practise.  --Arctic Gnome (talk • contribs) 20:14, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm not misunderstanding responsible government: part of that means having members of the government being accountable to the House, and obviously they cannot be accountable to the House if they are not even members of it. As per Senators being included in the Cabinet (that is, in positions that would normally be filled by an MP; Leader of the Government in the Senate is an obvious exception), this usually only occurs when the government finds itself in a tricky situation -- take the current Harper government as an example. Having no elected Members of Parliament from within any of the major urban centres makes it virtually impossible to balance the Cabinet without including a Senator from at least one of those regions. But in any event, it makes sense to point out the Senators, because anyone just skimming over this will assume (perhaps not unreasonably) that all of them are MPs. --Todeswalzer|Talk 03:01, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Titles of Senators 

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message: Back on October 19, User:Miesianiacal decided to put the President of the Privy Council at the top of the Cabinet list, over even the Prime Minister, without any discussion. The Cabinet is not the Privy Council but a committee of the Privy Council and, both constitutionally and in fact it is the Prime Minister who is the had of Cabinet. I have reversed the order to put the PM on top as the PM is the first minister. Doctorite (talk) 22:22, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I am entitled to make changes without prior discussion, per WP:BRD, thank you. Yes, you're right that the PM is head of government, but, as the cabinet is a committee of the Privy Council, it seems odd to have the president of the larger body relegated in a sub-group of it to a status lower than the head of the sub-group. --Ħ MIESIANIACAL 23:24, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have any references that support giving the Privy Council President precedence over the PM within cabinet? It may "seem odd" to you but that is not a sufficient reason to make a counterintuitive edit. If this were a list of the Privy Council you'd have a point but this is a list of Cabinet members and the PM is the leader of the Cabinet (ie the First Minister) so his name should come first. Doctorite (talk) 00:05, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  PM first 

message: The standard way of listing the Cabinet is in order of precedence (that is in order of the minister's seniority in the Privy Council ie the PM is first followed by ministers with the order determined by when they were sworn in as privy councillors). See  and . The list in this page needs to be corrected accordingly. Round the Horne (talk) 17:19, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Order of precedence

message: I think that the table currently used is unattractive and not user-friendly.  I propose replacing it with the following:
Ministry                                                                                                                                                  	Date of Creation	Incumbent          	Minister Since	Precedence Date
Prime Minister of Canada                                                                                                                                  	                	Stephen Harper     	              	
Minister of Aboriginal Affairs and Northern Development                                                                                                   	                	Bernard Valcourt   	              	
Minister of National Defence                                                                                                                              	                	Rob Nicholson      	              	
Minister of Justice and Attorney General for Canada                                                                                                       	                	Peter MacKay       	              	
Minister of Health                                                                                                                                        	                	Rona Ambrose       	              	
Minister of Public Works and Government Services                                                                                                          	                	Diane Finley       	              	
Minister of Foreign Affairs                                                                                                                               	                	John Baird         	              	
President of the Treasury Board                                                                                                                           	                	Tony Clement       	              	
Minister of Finance                                                                                                                                       	                	Jim Flaherty       	              	
Leader of the Government in the House of Commons                                                                                                          	                	Peter Van Loan     	              	
Minister of Employment and Social Development                                                                                                             	                	Jason Kenney       	              	
Minister of Agriculture and Agri-Food                                                                                                                     	                	Gerry Ritz         	              	
Minister of International Development(and Minister for La Francophonie)                                                                                   	25 January 1996 	Christian Paradis  	              	
Minister of Industry                                                                                                                                      	                	James Moore        	              	
Minister of Infrastructure, Communities and Intergovernmental Affairs(and Minister of the Economic Development Agency of Canada for the Regions of Quebec)	                	Denis Lebel        	              	
Minister of the Environment(and Minister of the Canadian Northern Economic Development Agency and Minister for the Arctic Council)                        	                	Leona Aglukkaq     	              	
Minister of Transport                                                                                                                                     	                	Lisa Raitt         	              	
Minister of Fisheries and Oceans                                                                                                                          	                	Gail Shea          	              	
Minister of Veterans Affairs                                                                                                                              	                	Julian Fantino     	              	
Minister of Public Safety and Emergency Preparedness                                                                                                      	                	Steven Blaney      	              	
Minister of International Trade                                                                                                                           	                	Ed Fast            	              	
Minister of Natural Resources                                                                                                                             	                	Joe Oliver         	              	
Minister of National Revenue                                                                                                                              	                	Kerry-Lynne Findlay	              	
Minister of Canadian Heritage and Official Languages                                                                                                      	                	Shelly Glover      	              	
Minister of Citizenship and Immigration                                                                                                                   	                	Chris Alexander    	              	
Minister of Labour(and Minister for the Status of Women)                                                                                                  	                	Kellie Leitch      	              	
Minister of State (Small Business and Tourism, and Agriculture)                                                                                           	                	Maxime Bernier     	              	
Minister of State (Foreign Affairs and Consular Services)                                                                                                 	                	Lynne Yelich       	              	
Minister of State (Federal Economic Development Agency for Southern Ontario)                                                                              	                	Gary Goodyear      	              	
Minister of State (Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency)                                                                                                  	                	Rob Moore          	              	
Minister of State and Chief Government Whip                                                                                                               	                	John Duncan        	              	
Minister of State (Multiculturalism)                                                                                                                      	                	Tim Uppal          	              	
Minister of State (Seniors)                                                                                                                               	                	Alice Wong         	              	
Minister of State (Sport)                                                                                                                                 	                	Bal Gosal          	              	
Minister of State (Finance)                                                                                                                               	                	Kevin Sorenson     	              	
Minister of State (Democratic Reform)                                                                                                                     	                	Pierre Poilievre   	              	
Minister of State (Social Development)                                                                                                                    	                	Candice Bergen     	              	
Minister of State (Science and Technology, and Federal Economic Development Initiative for Northern Ontario)                                              	                	Greg Rickford      	              	
Minister of State (Western Economic Diversification)                                                                                                      	                	Michelle Rempel    	              	
Thoughts? - Nbpolitico (talk) 16:33, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table 

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message: As of Nov 4 2015 Trudeau's government is now in power.192.197.88.95 (talk) 18:02, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Must be updated for Trudeau's gov't 

message: What exactly is the basis for Carolyn Bennett's precedence date being 1986?  She didn't join the Privy Council until the Martin government.
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message: Whoever updated the cabinet list overlooked making corresponding changes to the precedence dates and they're now screwed up. Can someone fix them as needed? Precedence date is the date the individual was sworn into the privy council (usually the day they first became a cabinet minister or parliamentary secretary) and if a minister changes portfolio their precedence date moves with them.130.63.230.247 (talk) 19:47, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
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message: http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trudeau-cabinet-shuffle-2018-1.4749976
Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has made significant changes to his cabinet, bringing five new ministers to the table and creating new portfolios for seniors, intergovernmental affairs and border security.
The retooled cabinet signals the government intends to ease trade dependence on the U.S. and bolster political forces in key regions in the run-up to next year's federal election.
In one surprise move, Bill Blair, a former Toronto police chief who has been the government's point man on the marijuana legalization file, was appointed minister of border security and organized crime reduction. He will also be in charge of managing the hot-button issue of irregular migration with asylum seekers crossing into Canada from the U.S.
Other new ministers added to the cabinet today:
Mary Ng, a former staffer in Trudeau's office who was recently elected in a Markham-Thornhill byelection, becomes minister for small business and export promotion.
Filomena Tassi, a Hamilton MP, becomes minister for seniors.
Vancouver MP Jonathan Wilkinson becomes minister of fisheries, oceans and the Canadian Coast Guard.
Pablo Rodriguez, who was serving as chief government whip, becomes minister of heritage and multiculturalism.
Ministers with new or changed duties:
Dominic LeBlanc moves from Fisheries and Oceans to Intergovernmental Affairs, Northern Affairs and Internal Trade.
Amarjeet Sohi moves from Infrastructure to Natural Resources.
Carla Qualtrough, remains minister of public services and procurement and gets the added portfolio of Accessibility.
Jim Carr moves from Natural Resources to International Trade Diversification.
Mélanie Joly goes from Heritage to minister of tourism, official languages and la francophonie.
François-Philippe Champagne moves from International Trade to Infrastructure and Communities.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taishonambu (talk • contribs) 16:36, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  July 18, 2018 - Cabinet Reshuffle and New Positions