Talk:Islamic view of the Last Judgment

message: "This is similar to some Protestant theologies that state that salvation is by the grace of God, and not by deeds. Islam, however, emphasizes that grace does not conflict with perfect justice."
The overall article is VERY insightful.  However, as a Catholic and amateur apologist, I have to point out that the above passage is not quite correct.  Grace is generally defined as an undeserved gift, given to the sinful as well as to the righteous.  This is the view that most Orthodox and Protestant denominations hold - there is some difference among evangelical, fundamentalist, and dispensationalist elements of Christianity.  This concept of grace does not match well with the preceeding paragraph, "mercy and forgiveness will be granted on that day insofar as it is merited". I appreciate the attempt at comparison, but perhaps it would be more accurate to leave the comparison out.Thaddeus Ryan 21:30, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Judgement 

message: "We asked,'O Messenger of Allah, how quickly will he walk upon the earth?' He said,'Like a cloud driven by the wind. He will come to the people and call them (to a false religion), and they will believe in him and respond to him. He will issue a command to the sky, and it will rain; and to the earth, and it will produce crops. After grazing on these crops, their animals will return with their udders full of milk and their flanks stretched. Then he will come to another people and will call them (to a false religion), but they will reject his call. He will depart from them; they will suffer famine and will possess nothing in the form of wealth. Then he will pass through the wasteland and will say, "Bring forth your treasures", and the treasures will come forth, like swarms of bees. Then he will call a man brimming with youth; he will strike him with a sword and cut him in two, then place the two pieces at the distance between an archer and his target. Then he will call him, and the young man will come running and laughing."
This seems to indicate that ad-Dajjal will perform miracles...It is also odd that the description of the treasure is said to come forth like a "swarm of bees" - I guess the choice of diction reflects the negative view of materialist wealth. What is truly perplexing is the man being cut in half and then "running and laughing." Any thoughts? [Source] freestylefrappe 02:46, 23 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd passage 

message: I removed several Qur'anic references because it bogs down the introduction. These kinds of references are not commonly placed here and it seemed like it needed cleanup. Maybe in one of the sections a number of sources could be mentioned. Cuñado  - Talk 22:10, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  introduction 

message: Shouldn't this article be at Qiyâmah? That would be the correct transliteration, no? ɱўɭĩєWhat did I dowrong 20:43, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Move 

message: Could editors here take a look at Last Judgment.  I just undid some IP edits that completely removed the Islamic view from that article - obviously wrong to do so.  However, I see an older concern on the talk page by a different IP editor that the content of the Islamic section is both wrong and relying on sources that are not reliable.  That is an issue that I don't consider myself competent to correct - though I'd say unsourced instead of relying on poor sources.  Since this is considered the main article for that section, I'd think you all would be able to attend to it.  GRBerry 23:45, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Could you all... 

message: Someone has replaced the entire page with "qayaamah" instead of the correct qiyamah. This is going to be annoying to undo, does anyone have a reason for it? ناهد(dAnāhita)  16:34, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Qiyamah, not Qayaamah

message: I'm curious why you say the vowel should be short.  It's long in Arabic, so shouldn't it be transliterated with either two vowels or with a macron over the 'a'?
Also, I'm going to do some cleaning up of the grammar and sentence structure in this article over the next few days, but leaving the content (I certainly don't know enough to change it).  Anyone please feel free to chip in! Suomichris  —Preceding undated comment was added at 00:53, 6 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Re: Spelling of 'Qiya(a)mah' and general editing

message: Pretty much everything past the etymology section is improper synthesis of primary material. There are few to no proper citations throughout the whole rest of the article. This is all the more troubling, considering the article has grown so large on almost no source material. I'm going to be doing some major tagging over the next couple weeks, and probably some extensive deletion of unsourced material and synthesis. Does anyone have any input on this? Peter Deer (talk) 16:22, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major citation issues 

message: Is meaning of these two words Qiyamah and Qayāmat is one and the same? If yes, then Qayāmat should be redirected to this article. Thanks! Rāmā (talk) 02:11, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It would seem so. Peter Deer (talk) 02:48, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Qiyamah]] and [[Qayāmat]]  

message: This article is just becoming a list of Arabic citations from the Koran. The article is constantly being written in a near scientific manner, as if to suggest that the events were confirmed fact. I propose that sentences such as "The apple will be sold" be written in a fashion similar to "It is believed that the apple will be sold", et cetera. --Île flottante (talk) 19:16, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert reasoning 

message: Although in Hud it says those who are Non-Muslims will go to hell, but it says those who do not believe in the Book of Moses will go to Hell. Does that mean that Jews and Christian still could go to Heaven? It also says at 2:62 in the Quran that any person of any religion who believes in God and the Day of Judgment will have their reward. Does this mean that they do not go to Hell? If so, it would mean that any person who believes in God ,Day of Judgment and does good work will earn their place in Heaven. Since there is this ambiguity, the rule "Non-Muslims will go to Hell" could/should be deleted. I have to say, however, this article in need of an expert. Please help!
Legend II (talk) 16:41, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-Muslims in the Quran 

message: It states in the article:
"The people will believe that a short time has passed between their birth and death.[12]"
when I check out the referenced Quran 10:45 it seems to me more like this is when the person is raised from the dead and the body is resurrected at judgment, they will feel as if not even a day has passed since they were dead, which makes sense because if you are unconscious time flies by fast right, as you can't observe time passing. I don't think it means from birth to death as expressed in the article. I could be wrong, I'm only just learning about Islam. 50.47.102.200 (talk) 02:24, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible Interpretation problems  

message: The article reads "The major signs are the seven which are thought to occur closer to the supposed day of judgement." but then, eight signs are listed. ChaTo (talk) 19:09, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seven or eight major signs?