Talk:School psychology

message: I don't know who wrote this page, but no state lets you be a school psychologist with only a bachelors degree. First, it is unethical to use the term 'psychologist' unless you have a doctorate (check APA) and are licensed. Second, you cannot be a licensed school psychologist unless you have at least an educational specialist degree.
:*You need to provide your sources
:*Your edits should not contradict the references already cited, reputable references too.
:*Just because APA declars its unethical does not mean that it is illegal
:*Non-doctoral School Psychologists are allowed to join Division 16 of APA whicky1978 05:39, Jun 11, 2005 (UTC)
This issue is resolved. There is now a clarifying statement that a bachelor's degree is not sufficient. July 2020  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Karenwilson12345 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  School psychologist qualifications 

message: I don't know anyone who considers Binet a school psychologist.  Developing an IQ test does not defione one's career.  More likely that Lightner Witmer is considered to be the first.  Then again, given the evolution of the science of psychology - if you can call it a science at all - there isn't likely to be a "first" at all.  Rather, school psychology is the culmination of several burgeoning fields mixed together in one big salad bowl. BrainDoc 01:06, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  First psychologist 

message: Is it true that you can have only a Bachelor's, or need a doctorate in some states?  I will look into this because I don't believe that either is true.
Tennessee requires only a Specialist in Education or Ed.S degreewhicky1978 20:22, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Educational requirements 

message: I recently noticed that school psychology redirected to educational psychology, which is certainly not ideal. The entry has since been reverted to a previously-used stub, but before more work is done on it, I wonder how it should fit with school psychologist. Would it make more sense to combine them or can they co-exist without too much overlap? If they are combined, it makes most sense to me to bring them together under the entry for the field as a whole, not under the entry for the title of people working in the field.
Tim 15:51, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at the most related practitioner/discipline pairs, I would support two distinct articles.  There seems to be enough information in these articles to expand the stub and justify complementary articles.  Identifying notable school psychologists could be part of this expansion. Rfrisbietalk 16:21, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I have redirected school psychology perhaps I was hasty. I did not add or try to merge the two. But then again it was a stub.whicky1978
My preference is to have just one article for school psychology/school psychology and one article for educational psychology/educational psychologist. Let's redirect school psychology to the school psychologist article Nesbit 14:17, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

text: If articles were to be merged, the concept of "discipline" seems to be more basic than the concept of "practioner," IMHO.  Wikipedia classification schemes are much stronger in the area of disciplines, using people subcategories of them when warranted. If we were to consistently merge all three pairs above (not that I'm suggesting it), I believe "Psychology - Educational psychology - School psychology" as article titles with the corresponding emphasis on discipline to be preferred over "Psychologist - Educational psychologists - School psychologist" as titles and emphases. Rfrisbietalk 16:03, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree that discipline (rather than member of the discipline) is more common as the central focus for WP articles.  For example, educational psychologist is a simple redirect to the article on educational psychology. One could make the argument that school psychology is an exception because it is such an applied discipline, but I don't have a strong opinion on whether the article should be titled school psychologist or school psychology. In any case, there should be two separate articles, one for educational psychology and one for school psychology. Nesbit 17:08, 15 May 2006 (UTC)

text: My actual preference is to have six articles for the topics we've been discussing! :-)  I'm just saying that if a pair gets merged, I prefer the "discipline" version of the title.  Then, I would place any "practitioner"-specific info under a top-level heading. I also support keeping school psychology and educational psychology separate under any scenario. In the case of "teaching," the "discipline" would be more like physical education, etc., such as listed under the Education disciplines.  Rfrisbietalk 22:24, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Rfrisbie, to prove how unconventional your thinking is I did a quick survey of WP and found that you may actually be in the majority. The disciplines which have separate discipline and practitioner articles include physics, chemistry, biology, psychology, chemistry and economics. Those which have a single article include anthropology, sociology, and paleontology. I note, however, that the practitioner articles (e.g., economist) look much further away from FA status than their discipline-focused partners (e.g., economics). Nesbit 23:51, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Lumping me with the majority! Was that a put-down? :-) Rfrisbietalk 00:46, 16 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Not at all... WP obviously owes its one-million article success to splitters like you, not lumpers like me. :-) Nesbit 03:17, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Chalk it up to short attention span.  Does that go under generic, educational or school pyschology? ;-) Rfrisbietalk 03:24, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relation to [[School Psychology]] entry 

message: A link to http://www.schoolpsychologistfiles.com was previously put in by  SchoolpsychErin and removed by Nposs, refering to policies and guidelines. Now SchoolpsychErin has put the link back in again. I checked the link and I checked the policies and guidelines, but actually, I can't see why this link shouldn't be there. Yes, there are some advertisements on the link, but otherwise it is not a commercial link. I haven't read the whole site, but I can't see anything there that looks unreliable. So before anybody removes the link again, I would appreciate if you could explain why. (Also because I'm still rather new and would like to learn more about which links are acceptable and which are not.) Thank you! Lova Falk 17:09, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for bringing it to the talk page. I only wish the editor who repeatedly added the link would do the same. The site is not problematic in terms of reliability or being commercial. The external link guidelines (WP:EL) contain a number of instructions to keep articles from becoming repositories of links (see What Wikipedia is Not WP:NOT). The website linked in this case is extremely low in content, much of it consisting of links or lists of books. This content is already available from the other links. I also suspect there is a problem of "conflict of interest" - WP:COI. That is to say, it seems the person who owns the website is the one who continues to add it. Repeatedly adding a link to a low content site (especially one that you own and that has more advertising than content on some pages) is basically a form of linkspam. Unless someone can demonstrate how this site provides a unique resource besides what is already available, I see no reason to link it. Nposs 17:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much for your explanation! It makes sense to me and next time you take the link away, I won't revert it anymore :) Lova Falk 17:53, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  School psychologist files 

message: I agree that the previous links violated the terms of service.  However, I consider the current link an excellent resource for individuals considering the field of School Psychology.  I am hoping it does not get deleted in the future but am open to a discussion of its relevancy related to current links.
* Lova Falk - Please stop deleting this link without explanation.  In fact, I would like you to justify why you would remove http://www.school-psychologist.com/schpsy.html and yet keep the index page School Psychology Resources Online http://www.bcpl.net/~sandyste/school_psych.html.  It seems rather hypocritical to me.
:: I'm sorry, I confused this site with the above mentioned school psychologist files. I thought Nposs had given a thorough explanation, so I didn't feel an explanation was needed. Sorry, my mistake! Lova Falk 07:43, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  School-Psychologist.com 

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thread_title:  Intelligence Citations Bibliography for Articles Related to IQ Testing 

message: This Education section of the article seems to only be the American model of training. Training as a school psychologist varies widely. Countries like Australia & NZ for instance do not require Doctoral training. This section obviously needs to be restructured to include education worldwide, not just in the USA, or alternatively the header needs to be changed? Other editor's thoughts please?Mrm7171 (talk) 04:27, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Articles about global topics should indeed present a world view.  I completely support this, so long as the editor includes a reliable source.  Peppering this article with statements like "which in the United States at least", does little to improve the worldliness of the article.  Magnolia677 (talk) 04:38, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. How do you suggest we structure that entire section? The whole lot just seems to be about the training in one country? Or do you think the header needs to be changed to Education in the United States? I'm open to alternatives but the article needs to reflect school psych worldwide for sure. I'm not even sure if that whole detailed section is very useful to readers from around the world. Your thoughts please.Mrm7171 (talk) 04:43, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, One solution. Header Education. Then sub headers, USA, Canada, UK, Australia, New Zealand, India, Russia, China, Indonesia etc..you get the idea. And I seriously think the USA education section should be much briefer for readers. What do you or any other editors think about that solution?Mrm7171 (talk) 04:47, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education section of article 

message: I am hoping to add a section about youth mental health screening programs in schools. For instance, the digital Check Yourself assessment is used in schools and clinics to help screen for mental health issues in youth and direct them to the counseling services they need. Such initiatives have been very successful. Check Yourself is also validated by research: https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2733175. Can we publish this?
School psychology
 
School psychologists play an important role in supporting youth mental wellness, but identifying youth who are in distress can be challenging. Some schools have implemented universal mental health screening programs to help school psychologists find and help struggling youth. For instance, schools in King County, Washington are using the Check Yourself digital screening tool designed by Seattle Children’s Hospitalhttp://teenhealthcheck.org to measure, understand, and nurture individual students’ well-being. Check Yourself collects information about lifestyle, behaviour, and social determinants of health to identify at-risk youth so that school psychologists can intervene and direct youth to the services they need.www.jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2733175  Mental health screening provides school psychologists with valuable insights so that interventions are better fitted to student needs.     
Paprika 22:47, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add a section about mental health screening in schools