Talk:Allan Kardec

message: To the author of this article on Alan KARDEC
:Sir,
:You may add that Alan KARDEC collaborated with David LEVI ALVARES (1794-1870) who founded the "Cours d'Education Maternelle" in 1821 in Paris. Together (Kardec under his real name: RIVAIL) they published, in 1849: "Grammaire normale des examens".
:Christian LEVI ALVARES - MXSLA@yahoo.co.uk
::16:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is very interesting. We should gather information about him as an educator to enrich the article. jes 19:21, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Addicional info

message: Really? Oscar Wilde and Jim Morrison would have something to say about that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.169.2.55 (talk • contribs) 08:51, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: one  of the most flowered, not the most flowered. That sets the matter. 201.59.1.129 02:35, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most flowered 

message: I'm sure this guy is incredible, really, but surely at some time his work has faced criticism of some sort.  Is there really nothing out there? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.169.2.55 (talk • contribs) 08:57, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fortunately for him Spiritism was quite fashionable in his time, so he attracted lots of support. Once again fortunately for him, Spiritism is nowadays quite irrelevant, even in Brazil, so few people bother to attack him. Nevertheless he seems to have been a good person, though somewhat gullible and with a tendency to "regulate" things. And once again fortunately for him, most of what we know of him was written by his friends or followers.  But is this a real issue? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 201.59.1.129 (talk • contribs) 14:09, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

text: He not faced criticism cause his theories was never widespread, except in Brazil. When arrived in Brazil and become popular, he faced criticism from Machado de Assis and later by other writers.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.79.78.141 (talk) 15:38, 4 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: Even though all about him has been written by followers, maybe the fact that what's agains him is hard to be found is due to  the quality of his ideas. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 200.99.204.194 (talk • contribs) 16:40, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Another point is that Kardec was, from what his biographies say, one of the most boring persons ever to live: he lived his entire life in France (Paris, to be more precise, except for some time in Genéva), he was a schoolteacher (a boring person's job in his time) and did not have any interesting adventures in  his life. ERgo, he may have written excellent books, but as he did little otherwise, it is hard to find anything in him to criticise.  No, he was not a pedophile, had no criminal prosecution, etc. Plain right bureaucratic-style middle-class person. And oh, yes, forgot to say. Nice people exist. 201.59.1.129 02:33, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "One of the most boring persons ever to live"?! Oh, come on... Kardec was definitely not this kind of person! He neither spent all his life in Paris, nor in France, since he studied for at least 6 or 7 years at Pestalozzi's Yverdun Institute, in Swiss. Moreover, he travelled throughout almost the whole French territory spreading the spiritist principles, and, we can't forget it, kept in touch with hundreds of spirits groups from at least 35 different countries in four continents. Besides, Kardec was not a "boring schoolteacher", but a progressist educator, who applied the Pestalozzian method to change the boreness and the inaccuracy of the traditional teaching methods. Taught chemistry, physics, math, astronomy, compared anatomy, grammar and wrote not only didatic books, but mainly pedagogic ones. He was not that kind of polemic and combative personality in those times, but had strong scientificist, humanist and anticlerical inclinations. Arges 13:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh, please. "He will be a strong protector, an extra light, a tireless worker that the phalanges of Space have incorporated." (...) "He was the guide and the secure port for everyone.". This is not only POV, but also Story. Can some non-Kardec-worshipping person rewrite the whole article? 86.87.47.254 (talk) 09:29, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: AGertsenchtein 

message: Who was Leon Denis, the friend of Allan Kardec and also borned in the ame country?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.62.159.40 (talk) 03:11, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  To Know more about spiritism. 

message: There are many books writed about spiritism for Deni, Ubaldi, Bezerra, Francisco Xaver, Divaldo Franco and other that , in Brazil, especialy are sellede milions of that books. I do not why but, the americans prefer the spirtism of the induism. We dedicated to spritism of Kardec, have the most respect for all religions. It is sure that , for us, we are next the true more than the others. Sorry, but the humanity is so. Al think that are owner  of the true. I am spiritist because phenomenas that i lived in very tragicmoments. Before that, i do not believe in nothing. Only in the nature. I was more for "Species evollution" of Darwin than others.Now, i belive in a supreme spirit that can called of God, Buda, Siva, Aláor othes names, until the cience can prouve the contrary. How i have seventy years old, maibe never
I apollogize if my english was bad. I learned for myself ,like a poor brazlian one, what i think to know.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.62.159.40 (talk) 03:40, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why so many at the same time? Simple: there was a supernatural fad at the time, and those people decided to make some money from superstitious fools. Let me say it in Portuguese, since your English is so poor: o sobrenatural estava na moda e esses caras aproveitaram para arrancar uma grana dos trouxas supersticiosos. --Stormwatch (talk) 07:50, 16 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leon Denis  born in france and Pietro Ubaldi born in Italie ,Bezerra de Menezes born at almost the same time in Brazi, what can you to say about? 

message: Can we have some better sourcing for this article? Much of it is totally unsourced (and may thus be removed at any time). Of the few sources that are present, most are Spiritist sources, which are fine for what Spiritists believe, but probably do not present a balanced view for other information about Kardec.--Jeffro77 (talk) 03:03, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: So I read in the Italian book Enciclopedia del CICAP. It is a curious thing. Any other info? --70.39.187.20 (talk) 23:50, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
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