Talk:Hippeastrum

message: The above heading added by Imc (talk) 18:21, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for updating that. I'm now very confused. I was annoyed because I clicked on Amaryllis somewhere, which redirected me here.  Now I see that there is not only an Amaryllis article, but I actually put the same photo there a couple of weeks ago, so there's no excuse for being sloppy here.  (Yeah, I was surprised to see the photo name--esp. surprised that there wasn't already an image with that name, too!)  If only I could remember where I was that brought me here after clicking amaryllis--which clearly had gone somewhere other than to the Amaryllis article. Argh.  Elf | Talk 18:16, 1 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: First post

message: Is this a Hippeastrum? Grown outdoors.    Hubert Derus 16:51, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lake Ontario

message: Do we need this fake Latin plural of a word that was not an original Latin noun?
Latin plurals in English - 
Imc (talk) 18:21, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed hippeastra to hippeastrum(s). Imc (talk) 13:38, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hippeastra ??? 

message: the the 'General' section the author uses the terms tepal as seemingly being the larger term including sepals and petals.  In the picture, the flower is described as having red and white petals.  Are the sepals not visible?  Or should it be tepals instead?--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 22:01, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Tepals would be the safer word, since it includes the other two. Rivertorch (talk) 06:26, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Petals or Tepals 

message: Hypercompe indecisa, . I removed this reference to pests. This unverified statement has been widely copied from here. While plausible in that both occur in Brasil, Hippeastrum is not listed amongst food sources of this insect in scholarly Brazilian literature. Michael Goodyear (talk) 00:30, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pests 

message: Article still fails WP:Gallery. Gallery needs to go. If the images can be interspersed in the article, then they need to be, or else left in Commons where they can be quickly reached a click away. Galleries at Wikipedia have to make some kind of specific point that you just can't make by interspersing the images in the article. Just showing more examples of the article title is unfortunately not a reason that we can include a gallery. :)  --Tom Hulse (talk) 16:06, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved the species images to the list of species, and made the cultivar images into a "combined" image which is useful to illustrate the diversity of cultivars available. I hope this meets your valid concern. Peter coxhead (talk) 17:05, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gallery 

message: This section violates WP:NOTHOW in my view. It needs to be re-written descriptively and not as a recipe. Modals like "should" are generally inappropriate as they usually constitute instructions. Peter coxhead (talk) 17:10, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Cultivation

message: This page has good article potential - the Spanish version has this rating. Michael Goodyear (talk) 00:31, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I will try - and have started - to raise the standard to at least that of the Spanish page Michael Goodyear (talk) 22:29, 23 November 2013 (UTC)

text: Now has similar scope to Spanish article as part of general upgrade --Michael Goodyear (talk) 12:33, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

text: Duly nominated Michael Goodyear (talk) 04:08, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomination 

message: :Nice article!! When you get to the real GA review, I expect they'll want it organized a little more in line with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Plants/Template. 
For instance, renaming the Morphology section "Description", 
: Done --Michael Goodyear (talk) 19:47, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done --Michael Goodyear (talk) 20:01, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

text: added Uses --Michael Goodyear (talk) 20:14, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

text: Also, the gallery has to go completely, or show some kind of logical progression that can't be mixed into the article, to bring it in line with WP:Gallery. Great work. :)  --Tom Hulse (talk) 04:37, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks --Michael Goodyear (talk) 19:47, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hulse 

message: next step is to develop the species pages - again, English wiki lags well behind other languages --Michael Goodyear (talk) 12:51, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Species 

message: Upgraded to high in view of the long standing taxonomic debate and economic importance --Michael Goodyear (talk) 22:05, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: subsequently downgraded by another editor --Michael Goodyear (talk) 15:32, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Importance 

message: GA status 1 January 2014
;edits checked
21 November 2016 --Michael Goodyear (talk) 03:14, 22 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA status log 

message: *The Etymology section is more taxonomy really - I think some of the prose is split into too-small sections and would amalgamate some. 
: We have been round and round on this - the GA template places etymology as a subsection of taxonomy --Michael Goodyear (talk) 18:49, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Making a start - revamping citations first --Michael Goodyear (talk) 22:03, 6 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pre-FA feedback 

message: This is is a GA (Good Article) page, and choice of images should be carefully considered (see manual of Style). Images should illustrate a particular point in the text, and be placed relative to the relevant text, without distorting the overall page layout. --Michael Goodyear (talk) 16:50, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of images Comment 

message: Dear, Michael Goodyear
:I am not engaged in edit war, your main and right concern was, that the image is without description. Keeping in mind your concern, I had added description, unfortunately without looking at the image you reverted. The image shows, clearly male and female organs of the plant.
:If you still don't like it you may remove it, I am Not going to add it again
Best wishes
Aftab Banoori  (Talk) 03:00, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually the image doesn't show the carpels. Hippeastrum has inferior ovaries so only the stamens, style and stigma are visible in the view shown. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:42, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

text: No, that was not my primary concern, although images should always be labelled. I am sure they are perfectly good images, but the purpose of images on Wikipedia is to illustrate the text, and I don't think anyone was convinced that the images you supplied added any new information to a page that already has many carefully selected and positioned images. If your images are in Wikipedia Commons, there is a prominent link there, and readers will see them. Thank you. --Michael Goodyear (talk) 12:49, 27 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Description 

message: A comment was added by Joseph Laferriere in revisions recently that the list of synonyms was 'flat wrong'. I traced the history of this section - it appears to have been imported from the Spanish GA article, which gives Amaryllidaceae.org as the source.Michael Goodyear (talk) 14:01, 9 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synonyms 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This article seems to leave many relevant aspects unclear. It seems that the original natural varieties did have at least somewhat large showy flowers. Why did these characteristics evolve in this group of plants? Then, since 1800, they have been extensively selectively bred/manipulated for their flowers. Most people who come to this article are probably more interested in the bred varieties. It seems like maybe the article should be more clearly divided between content about the natural varieties and the domesticated? To what extent if any have the human-modified versions escaped to the wild? Have they intermingled or affected the natural varieties in any way -- are the natural varieties threatened by the domesticated?-71.174.190.122 (talk) 17:53, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  natural vs. bred varieties 

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message: Much of the information on this Wikipedia page of possible interest to garden hobbyists appears to be localized to temperate climate.  I have grown a variety of Hippeastrum for well over 60 years in Southern California (Mediterranean climate).  I received a second variety about three or four years ago.  
My bulbs are outdoors in flower pots and usually stay in leaf year round.  New leaves appear at the same time as the flower scape grows up from the bulb.  If I keep them watered and do not force them to go dormant, they will flower two or three times in a year.  
Normal winters here are cool and wet.  Frosts are expected.  Winter chill (hours of temperatures at or below 45F) average  320 hours.  None of this results in my bulbs going dormant.  Of course, if we have a severe winter (strong winds, frequent night-time frosts, and above-average hours of chill), one or more of my bulbs might go dormant.  However, I have never lost a Hippeastrum bulb because of winter weather although they remain outdoors all year.  
As I am an amateur hobby gardener and have no experience with climates other than what I experience in Southern California, I am reluctant to edit Hippeastrum.  I am posting this comment in hopes that someone with broader experience will update that page.  
Photos of my two varieties of Hippeastrum may be seen on my Web page at http://www.rossde.com/garden/garden_hippeastrum.html.
DERoss 20:30, 30 Apr 2019 (PDT)
: I understand your point, but we can only add material to a Wikipedia article based on reliable sources, so your experiences (or mine) can't be used directly. If there's a source that discusses growing Hippeastrum cultivars in Mediterranean climates, then definitely this topic should be included. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:32, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Problems 

message: Good morning. Greetings to all the fellow editors!
I have several photographs of the Hippeastrum genus and I would like that my pictures could illustrate the articles that correspond to it's species. But since I’m not a botanist, I can’t identify it.
I have created a gallery in Commons to show the photos in question, so that some of you can help me easily: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Unidentified_Hippeastrum_in_Venezuela
I thank you in advance for any support in this regard, and I hope that you are doing fine. --Sebastián Arena...  02:51, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help with the identification of a species