Talk:Phill Kline

message: To say something is "in defiance of XXX law" is making a legal judgment. Wikipedia is not a place for judging. The previous version is NOT weasel words, but rather was preventing a NPOV problem. This has now all been fixed. 134.193.243.92 15:41, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, you've got NPOV exactly backwards. That 501(c)3 tax-exempt churches are prevented from endorsing political candidate is not in dispute; it is verifiable settled law. The article needs to state as much and avoid merely repeating Kline's (alleged, unsourced) opinion that his actions detailed in the memo do not violate that law. We can discuss here how to do that, but we will not be simply presenting Kline's opinion as if it were fact. He's running a political campaign, and care must be taken here to not fall into the trap of making his case for him. FeloniousMonk 05:20, 28 September 2006 (UTC)

text: No, I quite understand NPOV. Saying something "violates a law" is POV. I am well aware of the Treasury regulations which accompany I.R.C. § 501(c)(3) on this topic: a religious organization which itself endorses a candidate risks denial of § 501(c)(3) status if the Commissioner of Internal Revenue determines as such. The question here is whether the Attorney General's memorandum constitutes churches themselves endorsing a candidate. That, clearly, is in dispute. Therefore, to blindly declare that the memorandum itself "defies IRS regulations" is POV. That cannot be appropriate on Wikipedia. 65.28.2.218 06:07, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, where exactly does "Kline has defended the memo and the mobilization of churches it calls for, insisting it does not violate IRS regulations governing the tax-exempt status of churches, which are prohibited from supporting political candidates" blindly declare that the memorandum itself "defies IRS regulations"? Please read the compromise content next time instead of blindly reverting. FeloniousMonk 15:41, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Clearly, you do not understand Internal Revenue Code § 501(c)(3).  The language has been changed to more accurately reflect the Treasury regulations surrounding the section. This version should suffice for a truly neutral point of view. 134.193.243.215 18:29, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Church memorandum controversy and NPOV

message: Rachel Maddow reported (on 24 August I guess) that Kline was able to identify by name the women who had abortions at Dr. Tiller's clinic. Further she said the un-redacted were removed from Kansas state offcies and stored in a garage and later a private home and were photocopied at a Kinko's. I am no expert on this subject, but are Maddow's charges worth reporting here? The YouTUbe link is http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoYONXKg7Zg   Paul, in Saudi (talk) 04:23, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think it merits inclusion. 24.214.230.66 (talk) 05:53, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Maddow's reporting, i.e., included subpoenas of the records of a nearby hotel to determine the names of women who may have stayed there in association with a procedure and following women who left the clinic to take down their vehicle license numbers in order to identify them. Activist (talk) 03:16, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Unredacting Records

message: I don't write much here but y'all might want to talk about http://www.kansascity.com/2013/10/18/4560734/kline-indefinitely-suspended-from.html  codepoet 15:40, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed title. Kline was not "disbarred" but was suspended. He may apply to have the suspension lifted after three years. Activist (talk) 03:10, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: My edits to this page were reversed by sinebot, and I'm not sure why. They corrected serious errors on the page. For instance, the title of this section was "Disbarred," but Kline wasn't disbarred, though that was the recommendation of the Disciplinary Administrator that was overruled. Kline's license was suspended for three years, with a possibility of getting that lifted if he reapplied. Given the breadth of his misconduct, and his unwillingness to acknowledge in any way that his practice behavior was unacceptable, I can't imagine that such an application for reinstatement would be successful. Activist (talk) 00:55, 22 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: License Suspension

message: Last sentence added to paragraph was deleted because it was unsourced and redundant even within this section. "Aggressive pursuit" of charges by a prosecutor does not constitute in itself an ethical violation nor does such language appear anywhere in the Kansas Supreme Court's findings. Activist (talk) 17:26, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Post-electoral career

message: Now that his law license is indefinitely suspended and unlikely to be re-instated, where is Kline now and what is he doing?  Is he still a "visiting professor" at Liberty, or is he back in Kansas, or what?  For completeness, the article should say.  Goblinshark17 (talk) 01:29, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: What's he doing now?

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message: Shouldn't this be added to the article?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:844:4000:F910:1D79:20D9:C67A:265D (talk) 04:16, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
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