Talk:Andy Griffith

message: I saw Andy in pro-health care law commercials in NC today and recently.  It sounds like he's had a stroke, but I haven't heard anything about it, and it's not listed here.  Anyone know what's up?  Kochamanita (talk) 23:22, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent health

message: Goober in The Andy Griffith Show was mostly called Goober Beasely. I believe the Pyle surname was only for a couple episodes.
Absolutely WRONG.  Goober was Goober Pyle Gomer's cousin.
Well, no, not ABSOLUTELY wrong.  Goober was, for most of the series, called Goober Pyle and was Gomer's cousin.  But in at least one episode, Andy introduced Goober to another character as Goober Beasley, as documented on page 132 of "The Andy Griffith Show Book" by Ken Beck and Jim Clark.  I remember the episode myself, because I was struck by Andy saying that last name.  I'll see if I can dig up the specific episode in which it happened.  But it DID happen.  Rich 17:56, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Goober

message: Should Matlock not be mentioned? 
I think Matlock should be listed. It's something he was involved in. --Jennie Ambrose 09:36, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Matlock

message: Is Monologist a word? Answer: No it is not. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.140.196.148 (talk • contribs). 06:51, 12 July 2006
:Monologist dates from 1625, according to the OED, and has been used in its present sense, "one who presents monologues", since 1711.  I challenge anyone to find a serious dictionary that does not have this word in it.  The person who wrote this pulled it from the place the sun don't shine, which is why it is hard to find definitions there. Ortolan88 15:44, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Monologist"?

message: The section under the Andy Griffith show on this page is ridiculous...I can't understand what Ron Howard is supposed to be saying enough to edit it.  For example:
""I was always grateful for the experience and the atmosphere that was created, because it was the best of all possible for coming environments, particularly for a kid growing up.""
There's just no way that's a direct quote from an American actor with half a brain.  
Consider also:
""It would give a chance to absolutely go highly on top, and do something different and I respect that. Although, very embarrassing to be 14-years-old and crying to effect, it hit me hard, when it finally ended." The last thing that Howard said about one of Griffith's first unpopular TV series in the 1970s, which included The Headmaster, he said, "I think they were 249 Andy Griffith episodes, well, that's a lot of seeing Andy as 1 character." Andrew Jr.’s death in 1996, drew Griffith & Howard real closer, as Howard received word as he broke down weeping. He was also one of the people to be concerned about his heart condition and surgery in 2000, and today, he still keeps Griffith in touch.""
Absolutely go highly on top?  It really sounds like someone wrote this whose first language was not English, or that they copied and pasted from translation software or something.  Just wanted to signal this as a poorly-written article; didn't know how to verify Ron's supposed statements enough to edit them.
:I agree completely with the above.  The Ron Howard section was unreadable.  I have deleted it.24.6.7.233 22:07, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section on Ron Howard 

message: Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is no "title character" in The Andy Griffith Show as mentioned in the second sentence because there is no character in that show by that name.
Universe Man (talk) 05:00, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Title characters" 

message: Ehm, I shudder to mention this but IMHO, the language, grammar, and style of several portions of this article, especially the section on Matlock, could do with some serious improvements. Phrases such as "Despite of him getting along with Griffith" are very bad English. Lufiend 17:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language and style 

message: Per debate and discussion re: assessment of the approximate 100 top priority articles of the project, this article has been included as a top priority article. Wildhartlivie (talk) 12:09, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:WikiProject Actors and Filmmakers]] priority assessment

message: moved. If someone wants to question this being the primary topic, they should list the page at Wikipedia:Requested moves. Jafeluv (talk) 13:52, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support. Disambiguation should only be done when necessary. Jafeluv (talk) 08:39, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Any additional comments:
I've reverted the undiscussed move, which also did a copy and paste move of the disambiguation page. If there are any objections to the actor being the primary topic, a new move proposal can be initiated. older ≠ wiser 13:43, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support. Disambiguation should only be done when necessary. Jafeluv (talk) 08:39, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: :Any additional comments:
I've reverted the undiscussed move, which also did a copy and paste move of the disambiguation page. If there are any objections to the actor being the primary topic, a new move proposal can be initiated. older ≠ wiser 13:43, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: I don't think the citation needed tag is necessary just because another editor and ibdb.com has it as different dates.  A quick google search shows it is 1926 in many reliable sources., , , .  Normally, birthdates are not cited because they are not challenged, and I don't think it is being questioned here either.  Thank you. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 16:46, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthdate 

message: Family Affair is cited as a show about a widowhood.  This is not correct.  Bill Davis was a bachelor who adopted his deceased brother’s children.  Both his brother and sister-in-law were killed in an automobile accident.  Bill himself had never been married.  Family Affair should be removed from the list, or the list description should be expanded from that of “widowhood” alone. --Rainy Day (talk) 21:03, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Widowhood 

message: Griffith was born in 1926, making him a member of the World War II generation. He would have been eligible for the draft in 1944. Was he classified as 4-F, or otherwise exempt? For an article about someone born in that era, it's a major omission.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.155.82.245 (talk) 16:24, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a biographical aspect that's missing.. calling it a "major omission" seems a bit off the mark.  Something about this is probably in his autobiography --CutOffTies (talk) 17:54, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Military 

message: I remember watching a television spoof, similar to what Candid Camera did, where a street was being renamed after Griffith, and he showed up for the honors, only to be picketed by a (fabricated) crowd of angry individuals who didn't want the name changed, but I can't find any mention of it through Google. Does anyone remember what show/episode that was, and would you be willing to add it? Or am I totally off my rocker and that particular episode featured someone else? It's been several years… Thatfield977 (talk) 13:50, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You may want to try to the reference desk for this, since it really doesn't have anything to do with improving this article. --CutOffTies (talk) 13:56, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  If this memory is true, it would be an ommission from the article, and thus it would indirectly help improve the article if we solved the question.  --  Zanimum (talk) 17:55, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Street renaming spoof 

message: Nuff' said.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.248.211.16 (talk) 20:14, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There are several episodes of the Andy Griffith show that the copyright was allowed to expire on and are now in the public domain. Screen shots could be taken from them, or even an entire episode could be uploaded and placed into the article. Rreagan007 (talk) 16:07, 3 July 2012 (UTC)

text: Please reference his "Potato" nickname (if true). Also, the current image for the subject features a bunch of potatos, and not a single image of Andy Griffith himself. This needs to be changed/corrected.--69.146.144.86 (talk) 16:30, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Article needs more images

message: I just heard about Andy Griffith's death. He will be missed. Jdaniels15 (talk) 14:53, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Confirmed within the past few minutes by the Dare County, NC, Sheriff's Office. JTRH (talk) 16:36, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death 

message: The current picture shows Andy Griffith being awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom. Would it not be a good idea to include a couple of sentences as to what he did to be awarded it? 69.143.110.86 (talk) 15:32, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems the picture has been moved down in the article since your post, closer to the Honors section. In short, for "an especially meritorious contribution to the security or national interests of the United States, world peace, cultural or other significant public or private endeavors".  --  Zanimum (talk) 18:01, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Presidential Medal of Freedom 

message: Anyone know about this? Therequiembellishere (talk) 18:46, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: My goodness, our stage coverage is horrible on Wikipedia, it seems. I've added the two nomination to the article now. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.  --  Zanimum (talk) 18:57, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dual Tony nominee 

message: shouldn't there be a section in the article about his death? Thebestofall007 (talk) 23:19, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's discussed under "Personal life". There's not that much info on his death, to justify a separate section.  --  Zanimum (talk) 00:09, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death section 

message: andy griffith's death certificate now list cause of death as heart attack. It also states the he suffered for years with coronary artery disease, hypertension and hyperlipidemia.
Guiltybrat (talk) 23:04, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Jim Michael (talk) 23:28, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 5 July 2012 

message: The last two sentences of the section (about the death certificate), which were just added, are poorly written and too wordy. The two mentions of the death certificate are totally unnecessary. All that needs to be done is to simply merge the cause of death (heart attack) and burial site (Griffith Family Cemetery) into the original text, along with the new citation to the AP/Yahoo article. Just delete the last two sentences completely. My suggested edit is below.
Current:
On July 3, 2012, Griffith died at his home on Roanoke Island in Dare County, North Carolina, following an undisclosed illness.[46] He was 86. He was buried on the island within five hours of his death.[47][48][49] The Death Certificate filed indicated he had passed away from the effects of a heart attack in a 24 hour period before his death. The Death Certificate also stated that he would be laid to rest at the Griffith Family Cemetery in Manteo.[50]
Change to:
On July 3, 2012, Griffith died from a heart attack at his home on Roanoke Island in Dare County, North Carolina. He was 86. He was buried in the Griffith Family Cemetery on the island within five hours of his death.[46][47][48][49][50]
Thanks. 76.189.114.18 (talk) 00:22, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Cresix, thanks for your nice comment and for taking care of it so quickly! 76.189.114.18 (talk) 00:50, 6 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request  to "Death" section 

message: Karsten Friske 1999-2085  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.151.232.231 (talk) 02:39, 5 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Karsten Frosle 

message: Not feeling it. WikiOriginal-9 (talk) 14:31, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that he is dead, most people seem to want an image of him around the age he was during the Andy Griffith Show. If you have a better image from around that time period, feel free to suggest it. Rreagan007 (talk) 23:52, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current photo 

message: Hello you guys. I don't post to Wikipedia much, so forgive me if my format is off. 
I just wanted to bring up the Mayberry/Mt. Airy connection. The show is loosely inspired by the actual town. Evidence being referencing the nearby town of "Mount Pilot" which is directly from the actual town close to Mount Airy called Pilot Mountain.  Andy said so himself in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leL-Cf8v_ms @22:16  
also @22:53 references Bannertown being in an episode which is a town located in the city of Mt. Airy. @23:45 He acknowledges the connection to Mt. Airy 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leL-Cf8v_ms  @22:16, @22:53, @23:45
75.177.115.74 (talk) 02:30, 23 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mayberry's connections to Mt. Airy N.C.

message: Hello all,
Registration Army Card from 1944 -> 
Birth Certificate from FamilySearch ->
Thanks. --Danielvis08 (talk) 21:22, 9 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Born June 7, 1926... 

message: Usually after an individual passes away, their lead image is replaced with a younger or an image that depicts the individual in the prime of their career. I feel like there is potential for Griffith:
File:N 91 41 Andy Griffith 1984 (7495691570).jpg|Option A
File:N 79 10 Andy Griffith (7495691206).jpg|Option B
File:N 73 66-02 Andy Griffith Promo Tour 1950s (7495690900) (cropped).jpg|Option C
File:Andy Griffith Mayberry RFD 1969.JPG|Option D
File:Andy Griffith Headmaster 1970.JPG|Option E
File:Andy Griffith Andy Griffith Show 1960.jpg|Option F
File:Andy Griffith 1955.JPG|Option G
I replaced the current lead image with Option F as a test run and wait until a final decision has been made.--TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 05:44, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Option "F" is the best quality image; he's best known for two shows: The Andy Griffith Show and Matlock, so one of those "eras" should probably be used.  Image A from the Matlock era is not of as high a quality as the option F (the AGS era), and many of the others are from eras when his characters would not have been as recognizable.  Good choice.  --Jayron32 12:49, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree that Option "F" is best. In early 2020, somebody replaced that image with Option A, so I am going to go back to Option F, which was stable for several years after this discussion. HouseOfChange (talk) 03:27, 12 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Someone has replaced the lead image with an image from 2005. I will replace it again with F, as per earlier consensus. HouseOfChange (talk) 13:32, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Lead Image 

message: Since I've templated the Associations section with a number of tags, I figured I should open a corresponding section here. A large amount of text has been added, mostly by Pizzamaniac16, some of which I have previously removed or reverted. The vast majority of it lacks sources and much of the material seems trivial and only tangentially relevant to Griffith, and I'd argue is written in a highly unencyclopedic tone; more importantly, the vast majority of it is unsourced. The Don Knotts section seems pretty solid, but most of the other material probably needs to go. Grandpallama (talk) 18:19, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The abovementioned user has now been confirmed as a sockpuppet, and it has been two weeks since I threw the tags up, so I'm going to clear out the parts that are unsupported. If folks want to find sources and reinsert them, that is fine, of course. Grandpallama (talk) 15:03, 10 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Associations 

message: On the references section, cite notes 28 to 67 are missing. Is there a reason why? 2001:569:78BA:4A00:C163:E228:F9F:8D24 (talk) 04:40, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: . The code at ref 27 got messed up. Thanks for catching that. Station1 (talk) 17:38, 21 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing references 

message: Greetings to whoever reads this stuff. 
I added some substantial information to his early life. They deleted it and said that I was disruptive. Disruptive!! and said I had no sources! Do you folks think I just make this stuff up ? This was a pivotal part of his life. This information came from a friend named Gary Phaup who is one of the editors of Nostalgic Digest and this information was published in his magazine. I'm not sure what more you need !!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wllmlos (talk • contribs) 14:41, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , you might find User:Nick Moyes/Easier Referencing for Beginners helpful in learning to cite your sources properly. (Reminder, please always end your talk page comments with four tildes ~~~~ to add your signature and timestamp to your comments.) Schazjmd (talk) 16:17, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You also need to WP:RS and WP:OR for information about reliable sourcing. We don't know whether you "make this stuff up" if you don't cite a reliable source. Sundayclose (talk) 17:01, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Per the many sourcing warnings on their user page, Wllmlos is probably overdue for a trip to ANI for their chronic inability to source anything. Grandpallama (talk) 22:31, 27 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early life edits reverted