Talk:Battle Of Deir Yassin

message: See /Archive for discussions mostly around Autumn 2003. Evidently these discussions led to a rewrite of the page and are difficult to follow now. Gadykozma 04:52, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)

message: I've exercised the following sentence from the text:
:His testimony has lately been challenged by Sid Zion of the Zionist Organisation of America and other right-wing Jewish organisations.
(regarding Meir Pa'il's testimony). Meir Pa'il was a general and one of the most respected Israeli public figures. His personal integrity is beyond doubt. Sid Zion is an American right wing nobody. These people would say any old thing if they thought that it is congruent with their twisted view of what's in Israel's interests. If they care so much about us, why don't they take their noses out of our business? In short, this sentence gives a false impression as if there is some controversy about Meir Pa'il. There is none. Gadykozma 09:56, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sid Zion, again 

message: Let's decide on one of them and standardize the article. I prefer (in this order) IZL, Etzel, Irgun. What do other people prefer? Gadykozma 13:40, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Irgun is the most commonly used name in English, and this is English Wikipedia... Jayjg 17:44, 4 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irgun, Etzel IZL 

message: Ok, the truck with the mortar in the story near the end of the battle that comes from the Haganah;  it says it fires "tree shoots".  Is this a reference to "tree bursts"?  The article seems to be talking about setting the mortars to explode above the building to kill snipers--this is best termed an "air burst".   
:Unfortunately, it seems the guy who wrote this, BL, has left Wikipedia on May. Therefore the only way to verify is to check the book referred to. My guess is that it should be "three shots"... Gadykozma 00:47, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question of Translation or Meaning 

message: This is pathetic.  Most Jews/Israelis accept this massacre took place (even Ben Gurion was appalled and later tried to kill Begin, who led Irgun.  See Altalena).  Does it really matter that much if 107 or 120 were murdered?  We will never have the precise figure, so the article should simply state that fact, have some varying evidence, and that's it.  I could quite easily call into question some of the above posters' impartiality given complaints about the trustworthiness of Palestinian academia - or can I call into question all statements and statistics provided on Palestinian groups and actions by all Jewish groups and organisations?  No, thought not.  Leave you politics and prejudice at the door. 86.15.169.220 12:56, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arguments about precise numbers of killed 

message: I don't think the stamp really belongs in the article.  I mean, really what does it show that is relavent to the article? roughly the location of Deir Yassin I guess, but anything else?- Moshe Constantine Hassan Al-Silverburg | Talk 10:48, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. This stamp is too emotional. Christophe Greffe 18:02, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  removal of lebenese stamp 

message: This makes the article pro-Israeli. Robin Hood 1212 13:43, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nonsense. The article cites numerous sources, both Israeli and non-israeli. Isarig 14:03, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don't take info from the IDF 

message: I've rewritten the entire article and have renamed it to Battle of Deir Yassin, as it holds all the characteristics of a battle, and the title is a small part of the events themselves. The "massacre" will be a subcategory in the article. I've made sure that everything is sourced and uses many of the quotes already available within the article, but also gives them context and is cohesive enough to show a strict timeline of events, instead of a collection of quotes. Of course, there are things that can be expanded upon, for example the last two sections, and the source numbers are out of order but correspond correctly. I any case, I don't think they should be ordered until the article settles down enough, and I am sure that somebody will add other information very shortly. 
Guy Montag 23:13, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Total Rewrite

message: Now Zionists want to cover up their crimes. They r Deir Yasin-deniers. :) Robin Hood 1212 03:16, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This event is known almost universally as the "Deir Yassin massacre" and so the move is not legitimate, just as a move from "Kfar Etzion massacre" to "Battle of Kfar Etzion" would not be legitimate. I will leave you to move the article back. --Ian Pitchford 07:55, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If this goes to mediation or arbitration the article will be restored to its original location at "Deir Yassin massacre". It'll save everyone a lot of trouble and annoyance if you move it now. Then we can discuss the content. --Ian Pitchford 20:28, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battle???