Talk:XTC

message: XTC is labelled a "New Wave band". Surely, that is true only of their early work?. Wouldn't "Pop" be a better label?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.17.3.210 (talk) 17:09, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: New Wave?

message: "Making plans for Nigel" is being used by the EU-critical party UKIP (United Kingdom Independence Party) of Nigel Farage . Any more details about that / the reaction of the band? See here f.e.: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGNoZfvRoA&NR=1&feature=endscreen  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.47.134.136 (talk) 04:07, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: UKIP

message: Can someone please explain to me the sentence that states that "Life Begins At The Hop" was Moulding's
debut as a songwriter.  Surely his songs on 3DEP (eg, Dance Band), White Music (eg, Set Myself On Fire) and
Go2 (eg, Crowded Room) came first?  Or does it simply mean it was his debut on the pop charts?  That's
unclear to me.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.146.157 (talk) 22:49, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Moulding

message: I would ask respectfully that the person who keeps viciously editing the final paragraph on XTC's career justify themselves here. The end of this article requires a summative assessment. The factual elements in the recently extended ending recently have also been purged mistakenly, in my view, so that at this point, it reads very poorly indeed. 
I also regret the recent editing of the first sentence, which is now an opening that reads with unbearable restrait. "XTC is a band from Swindon, UK;" Is that going to be it? Surely Wikipedia is a more mature encyclopedia than this.
Unfortunately, I suspect vanity on the part of the original author is the problem, and if this is the case, I would humbly suggest that such an attitude is holding back the development of the XTC Wikipedia entry.
Thoss 00:11, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Editing conflicts

message: I may be severely mistaken, but I seem to remember that XTC collaborated with a dance act a few years ago to create a single called "Fly on the Wings of Love" - Does anyone know who this artist was? I remember seeing it noted as Annia, or Chucky, or some such alias. JFactor 02:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Collaborations

message: It might be interesting to note that some of their (vinyl) album covers were quite out of the norm:
* Black Sea came in a well fitting black plastic bag with carrying handles
* The Big Express was cut round instead of square
I think there was at least one more album with with such oddities, but I don't remember right now...
(And I must admit that the one in the bag sparked my curiosity back then and caused me to buy it without knowing what's behind it, really - now I am an XTC fan :)
Tempel 05:41, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My copy of Black Sea came in a lime-green paper bag with black Gothic lettering on one side. I've still got it but it's getting a bit tatty now. Ian Dunster 17:33, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right about the green paper; photos are available at http://chalkhills.org/reelbyreal/a_BlackSea.html.  I have never seen any evidence to support the black plastic bag story.  Ahkond 18:59, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's on the left of the green paper one on the site you linked above  - the one labelled 'UK Black Sea LP with black bag' - at least I presume that's the one - doesn't say if it's plastic tho'. Ian Dunster 23:11, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Aha!  Thanks for pointing that out.  Ahkond 02:45, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unusual album covers 

message: The Wiki article mentions that Senses Working Overtime was a Top 10 hit in 1982. Any chance someone could reference where it was a Top 10 hit? I'm in the U.S., and though I was aware of the song, I never heard it on the radio. A visit to the Billboard site:
   http://billboard.com/bbcom/retrieve_chart_history.do?model.vnuArtistId=6063&model.vnuAlbumId=18863
...seems to indicate that it didn't hit their charts at all. Was the song a Top 10 hit in the U.K.? If someone could post a reference that would be great.
--Gmaletic 18:19, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: XTC UK singles chart positions here:   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.144.50.207 (talk) 19:31, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question about "Senses Working Overtime" Chart Position 

message: In his notes to the Fuzzy Warbles series, Partridge writes that both "Seagulls Screaming..." and "Another Satellite" address his relationship with Erica Wexler. "Seagulls" appeared on The Big Express (1984), while "Satellite" shows up on Skylarking - so the statement that it was around the time of Oranges and Lemons (1989) that AP and EW's relationship began would appear to be in error. Of course, the word "relationship" is ambiguous: clearly, "Seagulls" expresses desire (unfulfilled) while "Satellite" pulls away from one - perhaps the phrase should be clarified to say that the relationship began openly at that time? (Or whatever actually happened - I'm not that obsessed with Andy's personal life!) A source would be a good idea...--2fs 05:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question about Erica Wexler chronology 

message: Does anyone mind if I remove the flag icon? It carries no extra information and makes the article look a little dumbed-down in my opinion. WP:FLAGCRUFT is an essay which gives more information on why proliferating flag icons across articles is a bad idea. --Guinnog 04:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag 

message: I am trying to expand the article on "Dear God," currently a stub, and I would like some help from XTC fans on possibly locating the original source of a particular quote. (See the talk page for the details.) marbeh raglaim 12:39, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dear God 

message: The "Other notes" section is, for all intents and purposes, a trivia section.  As such, it violates Wikipedia policy.  The content of that section needs to be integrated into the article or deleted---and since a great deal of it is "this song appeared in this show or movie"-type cruft, it should just go. ---Cathal 22:46, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other notes? 

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message: Also good tone, especially for a RockStar article. Who wrote this? Good job! ~ Otterpops 16:07, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Several people wrote this. Wikipedia is a collaborative effort.  Doc StrangeMailboxLogbook 18:25, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nice word choice 

message: It's conflicting to speak of the band in a past tense from the point of this article and yet identify Moulding and Partridge as present members. Discuss? Speedster239 (talk) 05:23, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: More than one reference states the band is defunct. It is fine to unify the article into past tense.  - Steve3849 talk 04:34, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

text: The band are broken up; they are no more; they are kaput.  Hence, the past tense.  Stop changing it, for Pete's sake. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 04:41, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Past Tense 

message: The Colin Moulding-written Where Did The Ordinary People Go? was released as a digital download on Idea in Dec 2005.  Does it deserve a mention or is it already covered? ~~Mikey  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.58.233.129 (talk) 12:48, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As it is not an XTC song, why would it be discussed here? ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 14:17, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where did "Where Did The Ordinary People Go?" go? 

message: Bands in British English are not referred to in the singular and as XTC are from the UK this article should follow British English conventions. I have amended where necessary and amended American spelling (the article was switching between use of singular and plural). Vauxhall1964 (talk) 00:43, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Good call, Vauxhall1964, I wish I had noticed those mistakes myself. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 01:11, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  XTC are/is 

message: The last band photo that I placed, a year or two ago, wasn't accurate. There were some band members there, but also friends, girlfriends and the like. I attempted to rectify that, but in doing so, since there were two photos nearly identical, I uploaded the wrong one. So until I can get the other one (on the article right this minute) switched over to Creative Commons this one here is a free image. Perhaps someone with some skill in trimming photos can help me --I have access to about a dozen photos, to get pics for two of the band members. I already just placed the guitarist's photo as well, and the drummer already had a photo on his page. Please leave a note on my talk page if you are interested in helping extract the two other bandmates' photos. Thanks.--Leahtwosaints (talk) 21:03, 19 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello folks, the photo in the infobox should be OK now, if someone can contact someone at Commons, since it's also been changed to a free image.  Both are acceptable for use. Perhaps once the people who run Commons realize this, we can use this one here on this talk page and perhaps extract at least one photo for one that's missing for the two band members who still lack photos. Can somebody contact Commons? --Leahtwosaints (talk) 08:27, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Band photo 

message: It is a pity that unsourced, POV wording has slowly crept into this article. I suggest that less opinionated and biased fancruft; and more verified, referenced text; would take this article away from reading rather like a fansite and more towards an encyclopedic style.  Thank you,
Derek R Bullamore (talk) 22:12, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Without specific examples and suggestions, this is not a particularly helpful note, and is likely to be ignored. Do you have any concrete notions on what needs to be changed?  70.29.14.129 (talk) 03:57, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: How did XTC get their name? Do the initials actually stand for  anything? As far as I can see, this information is not covered in the article. It would be a great improvement to the article if  - if any one does know how they got their name  - this went quite near the beginning of the article. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 13:42, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Andy got the initial inspiration from a Jimmy Durante film wherein Durante exclaims, "I am in ECS-T-SY!" and it sounded like three letters. memphisto 14:10, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: How did they get their name?

message: Contrary to the page as it is when I write this, XTC's last concert was NOT prior to April 2, 1982. They played one concert the very next day at California Theatre, San Diego, CA, US; THAT was their last concert, though they did play live on Letterman's TV show later on and made some TV appearances before the break-up in the midle of thefirst decade of the 2000s.
Source: http://www.optimismsflames.com/Gigs%20Text%20Only.htm#1982  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.117.184.253 (talk) 02:01, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  XTC's last concert in their touring years. 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Someone added Dave Mattacks as a member of the band - without any evidence. In the article Mattacks is only mentioned as a session drummer - and in the article on Dave Mattacks himself there is no mention or evidence that he was ever a member of XTC. If this should be the case, please provide evidence. Albrecht Conz (talk) 04:44, 21 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dave Mattacks ? 

message: This was removed from the infobox: ska
I'm noting that there's little in the article about their musical influences. Perhaps that could be addressed. As for the ska-influence, "From the stiff-jointed, ska-influenced new wave of their early years, Mr. Partridge and Mr. Moulding blossomed. " http://www.nytimes.com/2002/06/09/arts/music-adventurous-punk-of-a-troubled-past.html --Ronz (talk) 16:06, 30 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Ska influences, influences in general

message: Given that I must provide a neutral view, I don't think it would be unfair to say--by virtue of the Testimonial Album where several artists including Sarah Sarah McLachlan, Ruben Blades, Crash Test Dummies, The Rembrandts, and Joe Jackson paid their tribute to XTC by doing covers of their songs, in addition to the new "Rockumentary" in which many music and acting luminaries praise the band as among the greatest, that a qualifying remark be added to added to the definition of the band along the lines of "beginning as a new wave band from Swindon UK" XTC did far more than achieve some "cult following". Indeed they mirrored the Beatles in throwing off the constraints of having to promote their records with live tours which freed them depart from depart from their early genre classification as "new wave" or "punk" to deliver a body of work lauded by many to be in the pantheon of rock music's greatest works.
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:User:JimmyMack1955, I'm sure your personal views on the band are perfectly valid. To be able to add such an opinion to the article, however, those views would need to be quoted from a recognised authority on popular music and be published in a reliable source. We can't debate value judgements here, we just have to follow sources. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:58, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: How can a band that had the following UK chart hits be said to have 'labored in relative obscurity': 'Making Plans for Nigel', 'Generals & Majors', 'Towers of London', 'Sgt Rock' etc.,.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.144.50.207 (talk) 19:27, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Introduction 

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message: There seems to be every indication that Partridge's refusal to tour did adversely affect the band's potential, what would be required for everyone to be in agreement about mentioning this? Regards. EnglishEfternamn*t/c* 23:36, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It's already mentioned in the lead.--Ilovetopaint (talk) 05:01, 23 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Touring 

message: For lead attribution:
* WP:WEASEL: 
There is no need to attribute sources in the lead, as the claim is objective and factual. XTC have been acknowledged as an influence to many Britpop bands.
Sources (emphasis added):
*  PopMatters
*  IGN
*  The Independent
*  The Times
*  NME
*  Q Magazine
*  The Independent
*  Pulse
*  Music365
*  Elsewhere --Ilovetopaint (talk) 22:07, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: All this looks wholly convincing. Perfectly good sources, as far as I can see, and lots of them. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:11, 18 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Britpop sources 

message: In the article it says the band were not influenced by The Beach Boys because (according to the source) Andy and Colin had never listened to any of their albums until 1986. However that source also says that Andy had listened to their singles and had been influenced by them. He considers Brian Wilson to be one of his idols.
So the information is misleading. Bob3458 (talk) 21:57, 18 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: His appraisal of Wilson, as described in this article, is not exactly one of wholesale idolatry. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:32, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

text: Maybe that quote needs to be added as a quote in the source, or added to the article text? Martinevans123 (talk) 21:28, 24 June 2019 (UTC)

text: . It is now corrected with this edit . As you may have read it, there are issues in this article as pointed above in the GA review (failed).Woovee (talk) 23:40, 25 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beach Boys influence 

message: they dont even have a gold record.  if they also didnt get drop I suspect they didn’t sell more than a few hundred thousand per release on a good day.  sounds like an embittered fan justifying why their debt wasn’t linked to their lack of popularity 2600:1012:B1BA:2A7E:5D2C:CBD:7A7B:4DAB (talk) 20:10, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Their singles and albums charted the UK so of course they sold well. Virgin was caught with their hand in the till, and they refused to pay for a BPI certification which is why XTC never went Gold. Binksternet (talk) 20:40, 27 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  XTC sold millions? Says who? didn’t they accumulate debt for NOT SELLING MILLIONS? 

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