Talk:Rose Hill (Port Tobacco, Maryland)

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Ancestry of Frances Fowke.
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More ancesters/relationships of Brown/Fowke.
Tedickey (talk) 13:39, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Addtional details on Brown

message: The sources are obscure and contradictory.
Some additional sources give some insight, but still incomplete.
Here are some links and comments:
*Ignatius Semmes born 1773
Refers to an Ignatius Semmes born in 1773 of Anthony and Mary.
(Curious if this is the same "Semmes" as in the next cite - but 5 years different?).
*older/younger Semmes born/died dates, as well as a Mary Semmes at Rose Hill
The interesting pieces here are:
22. SEMMES,  IGNATIUS
Son of Ensign Robert Doyne Semmes and Mary Ryan.
August 22, 1778 - January 2, 1826.
Probably buried here next to his wife, Mary Holmes Semmes
(#22).  See The Maryland Semmes and Allied Families by
Newman.
23. SEMMES, IGNATIUS (JR.)
Youngest son of Mary Holmes (#24) and Ignatius Semmes
(#22).
September 6, 1821 – April 27 to June 13 1843.
Died without issue. Probably buried here near his mother.
24. SEMMES, MARY HOLMES
    Born about 1777.  Died June 9, 1825.
Daughter John Holmes and Eleanor Neale (sister of Father
Charles Neale).
Ignatius junior was the last born and only survivor of 13 children.
Mary Holmes Semmes died at 48.  Perhaps the gravestone should be "August 22, 1773" for Semmes senior.
*Semmes and Brown in 1819
CHAPTER 52. 
Ad act to incorporate a Company under the name of The
Hydrant Company of Port Tobacco.
Sec 1. Be it enacted by the General Assembly of Maryland, That
John B. Wills, Jr. John Ferguson, William Vincent, Basil Spal-
ding, Nicholas Stonestreet, Samuel Chapman, Edward Pye, Ig-
natius Semmes, William Penn, Gustavus Brown, and John Mere-
dith, be and they are hereby incorporated and made a body politic,
That sounds as if Brown junior and Semmes senior were well acquainted.
*comment on Semmes will in 1826
*Semmes junior died 1843 - note on will to St. Ignatius Church
Photocopy of will of Ignatius Semmes (1843) bequeathing his table silver to St. Ignatius Church
*comment on Semmes will 1843
MITCHELL VS. HOLMES. 289
of opinion, that during the life of William Holmes, the uncle of
the testator, and of his aunt, Sarah Floyd, the income should
be divided between them in equal moieties; and that the title
of the children of the aunt, to participate in the income of the
trust estate, is postponed until after the death of the uncle.
With regard to the proper application of the income, during the
joint lives of the uncle and aunt, there does not seem to me to
be much difficulty, it beiqg clearly the intention of the testator
to divide it equally between them.
In the event of the death of the uncle, living the aunt, a
question of some difficulty might arise respecting the proportions
in which, upon that contingency, the income of the estate should
be divided among the aunt and her children; but as this con-
tingency may not happen, there does not appear to be any ne-
cessity for an expression of the opinion of the court upon it.
As the case is submitted without argument, there seems to be
af peculiar propriety in confining the opinion of the court, to
the questions which the condition of the case at this time, ren-
ders important.
*comment on Semmes will 1843
The will was executed in April, 1843, and the testator died
soon afterwards. By it he gives freedom to several of his
slaves, to each of whom he bequeathed a pecuniary legacy of
three hundred dollars
*comment on Semmes will
The decision of the question raised by the pleadings in this
case depends upon the construction which should be given to
the will of Ignatius Semmes, deceased, or rather, to the follow-
ing clause of that will, for, as it seems to me, the other parts
of the will throw no light upon the subject. The clause in
question is as follows: "I give and devise to Walter Mitchell,
Esq., my farm called Rose Hill, together with all the rest of
my negroes, stock of every description, and plantation utensils,
... (page 163)
This bill is filed by William Holmes, the uncle of the testator,
to whom, together with his aunt Sarah Floyd, the income of
the trust estate was given for life
Walter Mitchell is not the uncle, but a business associate.
*comment on Semmes will and "Oliver Floyd"
Date: 1847/06/24
8297: William Holmes vs. Walter Mitchell, John B. Piet, Mary Piet, Sarah Floyd, Oliver Floyd, and Robert S. Floyd. CH. Estate of Ignatius Semmes - Rose Hill.
Accession No.: 17,898-8297-1/2 MSA S512-10-8276 Location: 1/38/3/
Tedickey 00:34, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Relationship between Brown and Floyd

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[[[User:Tedickey|Tedickey]] (talk) 23:16, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Bibliography for Floyd

message: *National Register Listing for Saint Thomas Manor
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Tedickey 00:28, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Arrested, or not?

message: *Raphael_Semmes
Tedickey 11:03, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Possibly-related topics

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