Talk:Khaled Hosseini

message: Hosseini's ethnic background is a perpetual cause of pointless contention in this article, and I intend to continue to revert any unsourced assertions on the subject, per WP:VERIFY. There have been many edits on this subject, and ample time for someone to provide a reference, but none have been forthcoming. Please don't re-add that information unless you can substantiate it with a reliable source. --ShelfSkewed Talk 18:27, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know Hussaini and his family personally. he is from the Hussaini clan of Herat. They are ethnic Tajiks--Anoshirawan 21:52, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Personal vouching does not constitute a reliable source. It amounts to "It's true because I say so." --ShelfSkewed Talk 21:55, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I believe you. Now provide a reliable source for that assertion, and I'll stop removing it. --ShelfSkewed Talk 04:10, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well you can do a search for the last name "Hosseini" even here on Wikipedia and you'll find all Hosseinis are Iranians. -- Behnam 05:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I know people from Wardak, Jalallabad, Peshawar, etc. named Hussaini.  Nice try. --Aquabee (talk) 16:08, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's because there are Farsiwans in those areas. Also Wardak has Shia Hazaras who also have that last name. TheNewPianist (talk) 04:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually these are Pashto speaking people that I am referring to.  What is with this obsession of yours anyway?  Are you that insecure?  --Aquabee (talk) 17:16, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

text:  The only other ethnic group in Afghanistan that could have a last name like Hosseini would be the Hazaras. However the Hazaras are Asiatic people and Khaled Hosseini is clearly not a Hazara. He must be a Tajik then. I don't know of a source that will state his ethnicity directly since it's taboo to do so among Afghanistanis, but it's very trivial that his ethnicity is Tajik and I don't think trivial things like that need a direct citation. -- Behnam 05:46, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I certainly agree that the point is trivial, but then why is it so contentious? You and at least one other editor insist that Dr. Hosseini is Tajik, while another editor (or editors) insists that he is not, and no one can offer any verifiable evidence one way or the other. Until such time as a reliable source is found to support a statement about his ethnicity, the information should be omitted. --ShelfSkewed Talk 12:53, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

text: The use of Afghan or Afghanistani is merely intended to convey that Hosseini was born in, and was formerly a citizen of, Afghanistan--a fact widely available from multiple reliable sources, and beyond dispute--nothing more. Any further statements about his ethnicity are, without a reliable source to support them, unverified assertions and therefore subject to removal at any time. --ShelfSkewed Talk 22:25, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "If you find unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material about a living person—whether in an article or on a talk page—remove it immediately." (emphasis in original) from Wikipedia:Citing sources#When adding material to the biography of a living person.--Bejnar (talk) 16:50, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hosseini's ethnicity 

message: At the 1:15 mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rzwMvYmZ8_U
If any proponent of "Afghanistani" can find a snippet of Khaled Hosseini using this word, then please provide it here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aquabee (talk • contribs) 04:27, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Princeton University's WordNet, Afghanistani is a synonym for Afghan (Afghan as in the fabricated nationality). So if Princeton says it's a synonym, there should be no issue with using Afghanistani instead. Especially considering that he is not an ethnic Afghan (see Pashtuns). TheNewPianist (talk) 05:37, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Tell this to Khaled Hosseini who clearly calls himself an Afghan in this video and every other appearance.  I don't buy your argument for a second.  Nor do I think that you actually believe it either.  I'd suggest you check any library for the use of "Afghanistani" in print.  Even online, it's merely an anomaly.  --Aquabee (talk) 05:43, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

text: He is an educated person, so he knows he is not Afghan already. Many Tajiks call themselves Afghan instead of Afghanistani for practical reasons (eg. to sell more books, etc). TheNewPianist (talk) 06:14, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's bordering on libel you know.  I'm not wasting any more time here.  --Aquabee (talk) 06:29, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Khaled referring to himself as an "Afghan" 

message: [Transfered from article]
However on his official homepage it is clearly stated in the Bio section that "In 1976, the Afghan Foreign Ministry relocated the Hosseini family to Paris. They were ready to return to Kabul in 1980, but by then Afghanistan had already witnessed a bloody communist coup and the invasion of the Soviet army. The Hosseinis sought and were granted political asylum in the United States."
Source: http://www.khaledhosseini.com/hosseini-bio.html
If they chose not to return to Afghanistan from Paris, how could they have left Afghanistan with little more than the clothes on their backs? Maybe someone is thinking of his book?--
Furthermore, saying that he is pashtun is just absurd. Again there seems to be mixing of reality and fiction. The kite runner is not an autobiograpy. In both his books he potrays the pashtuns as victimizers and I think its important to note that he is NOT a pashtun. Does someone have any sources that verify that he is pashtun, otherwise it is obvious from his name that he is not, or that they were forced to flee from Afghanistan even though they chose not to return to Afghanistan from Paris? Would appreciate it thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.203.33.59 (talk • contribs) 
Its very stupid and naive to call someone Afghanistani when all over the web and the whole world and including himself mentions "Afghan". In interview with John Karazki he clearly called himself as "Pure Afghan" 
Historian born 1975 (talk) 00:22, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment on biography 

message: All the IPs starting with the number 8 from Germany are used by the extreme POV pusher banned User:Tajik who is now adding false sources to claim that Khalid Hosseini is of Tajik ethnic background. Let me tell you if this was the case all the western media would have mentioned it in all of their articles about him because they do that with most famous Afghans. Banned user:Tajik is Qizilbash and he is pro-Iranian while at the same time he is anti-Afghanistan, anti-Afghan and anti-Pashtun. Please beware of this POV pusher and don't let him add false ethnicity in this article. The 8 sources he added are fake, mirror sites back to Wikipedia, Afgha.com is also a mirror site, it's a joke site and he is editing articles there, the youtube video does not even mention Hosseini's ethnicity.--119.30.76.43 (talk) 23:47, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Banned [[User:Tajik]] and his false claims

message: IP editor 88.69.52.216 added categories for Persian people and Persian writers.  If the citations are correct (I did not verify), Hosseini is a Tajik.  There is a category attached to this article for Tajik.  It seems that he wrote and published in English.  Are these categories Persian people and Persian writers correctly appended to this article?  --Bejnar (talk) 16:21, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He is not from Persia and he didn't write in Persian, so it seems appropriate to delete these categories. --Bejnar (talk) 15:35, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: He is a Tajik and thus an ethnic Persian, Tajik=Persian, idiot Pashtun Turk.--84.59.202.75 (talk) 21:35, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As ever, as long as this information about ethnicity remains a) unsourced and b) controversial, it will be removed from the article. --ShelfSkewed Talk 21:41, 25 January 2009 (UTC)

text: First of, Afghanistan is a multi-ethnic. There are many different ethnics, not only Pashtuns and Tajaks. We are not denying him being Tajak. Provide any reliable source which mentions this, just like it's done in most other articles. I believe he is Persian but not all Persians are Tajaks. Some Persians in Afghanistan really hate the word Tajak and they also hate being called such. They believe it's an offensive name because in the past Tajaks were mostly known as highway thieves or bandits. The Afghan Persians want to be known as the educated law abiding citizens of the country.--119.73.9.53 (talk) 04:13, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Persian writer

message: Khalid Hussaini, ethnicity is not clear but can be estimated by his biography and name he is so called, The only shia Islam ethnic living in Afghanistan is clearly they are Hazara people, and Khalid Hussaini (Name) is only specific to shia Islam and is related to Hazara people names, Because Hazara people due being Shia usually uses the Ahlobait names (Peace upon their families and races) means Imam's family. So according to above mentions we could estimate Khalid would be a Hazara ethnic. We could also say that as his carrier and books are  related to Hazara people and pashtun as the film The Kite Runner (film) totally focus on Friendship between Hazara and Pashtun boy, This would clearly claim that he cannot be ethnic Tajik and nor Pashtun reason is his name. so 
KHALID HUSSAINI IS AN ETHNIC HAZARA  Nurbandma (talk) 17:29, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You may be entirely correct, but an educated assumption is not the same as a reliable, verifiable source. From Wikipedia:Verifiability: "The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—that is, whether readers are able to check that material added to Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether we think it is true. Editors should provide a reliable source for...any material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or the material may be removed."--ShelfSkewed Talk 17:50, 13 October 2009 (UTC)

text: Your point is also correct but I there is no any source or specific place where his ethnicity is declared clearly. But I will find and give it. 119.155.98.3 (talk) 14:51, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Khalid Hussain Ethnicity as Hazara 

message: Hazara boy, who was his friend, was raped by a Pashtun man »Oh, ist das Moussa da drüben?« Ich sagte: »Ja.« Er nickte und bemerkte beiläufig – entschuldigen Sie, wenn ich dies wiederhole: »Ich habe ihn den letzten Monat über gefickt.« Mein Bruder und ich wussten nicht, was das bedeutete. Wir fragten herum und fanden es schließlich heraus.. The entire book is a review of his life where Pashtuns as backward and savage people play a special role. Actually, the role of Amir should be a Tajik but he later changed it to a Pashtun to defuse the roles of Pashtuns. Just read the book´s explanation and the links. In his book, the young Ami was a part of himself--94.219.196.21 (talk) 13:55, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless of whether it was "based on a true event", the novel is not a history book.  Fiction can often be based on memories, but that doesn't change its genre.  Please stop changing Hosseini's "genre" in the infobox from "fiction" to "history". AtticusX (talk) 20:55, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kite Runner is based on a true event 

message: I don't know who added Californian Republican to Khaled Hosseini's categories, but I can't find any sources to back this up. Perhaps a removal should be in order until we find more from Mr. Hosseini on politics?
Note: it's interesting that Mr. Hosseini didn't mention party affiliation when he commented on McCain-Palin's 'lack of moral courage' --Macindows (talk) 05:37, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. There is nothing in the article to support this category; I have removed it.--ShelfSkewed Talk 13:37, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor issue with Categories 

message: I propose that And the Mountains Echoed be merged into Khaled_Hosseini#Novels. I gave this a little time since there was some coverage in RS, but I think that this is simply WP:TOOSOON for this to merit its own article and that it doesn't really pass WP:NBOOK. I'd normally just redirect this, but considering that it has received some coverage makes me want to have a debate about this rather than just redirecting. If nobody can bring up a good argument otherwise by December 6th, I'm going to merge any pertinent data into the main article for Hosseini and redirect there. Much of this information is already in Hosseini's article and what little we do have so far can easily be summed up in 1-2 sentences.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 10:25, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: *My main argument is that while we have 5 sources, all of them say the exact same thing and seem to be taken from the same statement/press release. There's really no depth of coverage here since it's all pretty much the same news article but stated in 5 different places. It's just not enough. I figure we redirect for now and merge anything not already in the article, then un-redirect when we have more sourcing.Tokyogirl79 (talk) 10:28, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: Reliable sources, such as The Telegraph in Despair in Kabul, seem to agree that the name of Hosseini's eldest child is "Haris" with only a single "r". --Bejnar (talk) 19:20, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haris or Harris 

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message: The Personal life section states "[he] has described himself as a secular Muslim", then the categories list him as a Muslim. Sounds sort of like calling one a Haredi and a secular Jew at the same time. 89.64.82.54 (talk) 00:12, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Because he is still a Muslim. TolWol56 (talk) 01:16, 3 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion