Talk:Siti Nurhaliza

message: Does anyone know Siti's record sales?? Total sales? Or sales for any of her albums? If so,it would be nice to see it here. J87  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.50.77.118 (talk) 17:06, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Record sales

message: This article is badly in need of neutrality. See WP:NPOV. Brighterorange 21:37, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've given this a shot, though this is my first attempt.  The only problem is that I seem to be removing a lot of detail in doing so.  -x42bn6 08:51, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: By the way..who's this fellow??Haniff? Yes the medias praised her. I only got the clips of the foreign reporters. I know you are not Siti's fan. You shouldn't be here.
Do we really have to state the names of her sibblings? I need opinions before deleting it. If we browse the page of other international artis, i.e britney spears, i dont think they list the names of the sibblings. --Haniff 23:20, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin 

message: I tried to rework the article and add some extra details while making it more NPOV. Please comment and feel free to edit as you see fit. Nick L. 01:01, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rework, please comment 

message: I came across the Wikipedia page for Siti Nurhaliza when I was reading the Wikipedia page on malapropism. A malapropism is using a similarly sounding word which has a totally different meaning than that intended by the speaker/writer.
One of the items listed in Wikipedia malapropism  (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malapropism) in popular culture was:
"My nipple."(i.e. dimple) — Malaysian singer Siti Nurhaliza when asked what is her best facial feature. 
This Wikipedia page on Siti must have been written by Siti herself or someone who grew up with her. These are the malapropism and inappropriate phrases that need to be corrected.
In the section Career development:
In response to her successful performance.
In her country also, she's known as one of the succesfull 'brand'+ businesswoman. She's currently been taught as 'Most Richest Artistes' in Malaysia.
This sentence is hanging. What is in response?
In response to her successful performance.
What is the purpose of the word "also"
In her country also, ...?
Did you mean
she is currently THOUGHT of as
rather than
She's currently been taught as
which in Malay would mean,
Beliau sedang sudah diajar sebagai.
Or, in coloquil Malay,
Beliau sedang kena diajar sebagai.
In Malay grammar, sedang sudah itself would be a conflict in tense.
What you meant must be
Beliau kini disangka sebagai.
It should be
She is currently thought of as.
To use "been", the predicate should imply a completed performance as in
In the past, she has been thought of as ... (and now she is no longer).
The phrase 'Most Richest Artistes' inappropriately uses redundant superlatives.
Did you mean The Richest of Artistes
or The Richest of Most Artistes
or Almost the Richest of  Artistes
or in singular the Richest Artiste?
Should be successful not successfull.
Should I say She is a beautifull woman or She is a beautiful woman?
I recommend rephrasing the sentence to
In her country, she is also known as one of the most successful businesswomEn and cultivated brandnames. She is currently thought of as the 'Richest Artiste' in Malaysia.
One [singular] of the [plural].
One [singular] among many.
One man of the greatest men alive.
is shortened to
One of the greatest men alive.
Therefore it should be
One of the most successful businesswomen(plural).
She is the most successful artiste(singular, only one successful artiste and she is the one).
She is one of the most successful artistes(singular from a plural pool of extremely successful artistes).
In the section on Romance, I recommend rephrasing
Siti has previously been romantically-linked to many fellow artists including Zamani, Anuar Zain and Fazley.
to
Siti has previously been romantically linked to quite a number of fellow ARTISTES including Zamani, Anuar Zain and Fazley.
I recommend rephrasing
The rumour went that she would be getting married in 2006, to which her response was to neither deny nor confirm
to
The rumour went on that she would be getting married in 2006, to which she neither confirmed nor denied
I recommend rephrasing
Many surmise that the family visited in order to arrange for the wedding.
to
Many SURMISED that the family visited in order to arrange for the wedding.
Instead, this should have been more appropriate as the word surmise sounds too huge a word to be used in this context.
Many believed that the family visited in order to arrange for the wedding.
I have a problem with the logic of this sentence
which did not go down well with at least 49% of respondents to a local TV SMS.
It should be 
which did not go down well with 49% of respondents to a local TV SMS.
What is the purpose of the phrase at least?
When you take a statistical sample, you would say 49% of the respondents, even if it meant you had rounded the number to the nearest integer. 49 looks like an oddly deliberate number. Why not 45%, or half? To apply the term at least you need to show that you are estimating on the estmate of 49%. Yes, in Statistics you can make an estimation of an estimate. A statistical sampling is an estimate itself on the whole population.
More recently, in the past few years Siti was rumoured to be in a relationship with a prominent Malaysian businessman
should be rephrased to
More recently, Siti is being rumoured to be having a relationship with a prominent Malaysian businessman for the past few years.
Or did you mean
For the past few years Siti has been rumoured to be having a relationship with a prominent Malaysian businessman
?
In which case it is better to drop the phrase More recently to avoid confusion.
Datuk Khalid Mohamed Jiwa, who is 20 years older then her
should be rephrased to
Datuk Khalid Mohamed Jiwa, who is 20 years older THAN she.
Note the written malapropism (or typo?) then.
Comparatives using the accusative pronoun is frequently used that it almost becomes accepted coloquil usage. Not many people would call this a mistake nowadays but under certain situations it can create confusion.
One should say She is taller than I
rather than She is taller than me.
The reason is the implied I am tall as in
She is taller than I am tall.
She she can mount a horse faster than I can mount a horse.
which can be shortened to
She can mount a horse faster than I.
not
She can mount a horse faster than me.
because that would imply
She can mount a horse faster than she could mount me!
Redundant superlatives/comparatives are not acceptable. e.g.
The most fastest runner in the Boston Marathon.
Being a dog is more worst than being a fly.
This is Wikipedia/English. Do not use creole or pidgen English, unless quoting someone. Otherwise, this page should be moved to Wikipedia/Manglish or Malglish or Singlish or Spanglish, whatever.
I notice that in Wikipedia, you can recommend an article to the status of "needing tidying and grammatical correction". I don't know how to do that. Could someone switch this article to that status?
Miamidot 22:00, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Malapropism 

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message: Kalifah.
(Sensor, mana-mana pihak yang kebetulan ada kemiripan dengan cerita ini di harapkan bersabar)
Zaman Dahulu kala, di negeri iraq, hidup satu keluarga yang harmonis, hidup rukun, damai dan sakinah, keluarga ini memunyai beberapa orang putra dan putri. Enatah bagaimana pada suatu hari sang bapak tergereak hatinya untuk menunaikan rukun islam yang kelima. Setelah mendapat persetujuan keluarga maka bulat hati untuk melaksanakan, dan yang dipilih anak yang paling bungsu.
Pada hari yang ditentukan dengan bekal yang cukup, berangkatlah kedua beranak tersebut untuk menunaikan rukun yang kelima.
Pagi-pagi sekali, mereka bangun dan mempersiapkan semua peralatan yang cukup, dengan mengendarai onta, Setelah bersalaman dan dengan mengucapkan bismmillah berangkatlah kedua beranak tersebut. Kedua-duanyapun naik diatas onta, setelah setengah hari perjalanan maka sampai di satu kota pertama, akan tetapi banyak orang yang melihatnya ricuh, berkicau. Cam Ni...., Tak Patut...tak patut..adeke onta sekurus itu ditunggangi dua orang, tak kesian kat onta, tak patut..tak patut.
Saat istirehat makan, dan istirahat secukupnya keduanyapun melanjutkan perjalanan, tiba-tiba anak yang mendengar kericuhan warga kota yang dilewati memberi saran kepada bapak. Pak Tadi saya dengar orang kota bercerita tentang kita, kita di anggap tak kesian kat onta. Sekarang begini aja Bapak di atas onta dan saya tuntun onta ini, bagaimana pendapat saya. Ok..ok. I  Duduk kat atas onta dan you tarik tali onta.
Keduanya pun melanjutkan perjalanan. setelah sampai di kota yang kedua, warga kota pun ricuh melihat nya. Tak Patut...tak Patut...Bapak goyang kaki kat atas onta, anak yang tuntun onta, tak kesian kat anak. Seperti biasa setelah cukup isterahat sebelum melanjutkan perjalanan anak memberi saran, Pak Tadi Warga Kota Pun ricuh melihat kita, sekarang saya yang kat atas onta, Bapak tuntunnnmm. OK you di atas onta I tuntun onta.
Setelah sampai kota yang ketiga Warga pun tetap ricuh, Tak patut....tak put.....Gagah segak....bapak lak yang tuntun onta. tak patu...tak patut.
Setelah isterah makam keduanya pun melanjutkan perjalanan. kedua-duanya jalan kakai. onta takde yang naik. Tapiiii bila sampai kota yang ke ketiga, wargapun reeeecooooooh juga. Buat apa onta kalau hanya dituntun.....tak patut...tak patut.
Akhirnya keduanya sepakat, setelah onta di ikat dengan rapi lalu dipikul,,,Bapak Pikul Ekor anak pikul bagian kepala.
Warga kota pun terbahak-bahak, melihat pemandangan aneh. 
Akhirnya Sang Bapak memberi saran kepada anak. Nak Ternyata onta ini hanya membuat kita susah, memberatkan hidup kita. dan rekasi warga kota, onta inilah penyebabnya. Apa macam kalau kita lepas onta ini. anak pun setuju, maka bebaslah keduanya dari ricuh warga kota.
1.Demikian cerita singkat yang mengadung arti yang berbeda. Mendengar Cemoohan orang lain, sementara
  apa yang kita lakukan adalah benar.
2.Demi warga kota, sanggup berendah diri dengan memikul onta, akan tetapi cemoohan juga yang
  dilempar warga kota padanya.
3.Cita-cita yang ketergantungan dengan onta......? haji pun batalll.
#  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.156.14.84 (talk) 08:48, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cerita Legenda. 

message: I'm looking forward to having a high-quality article on Siti Nurhaliza on Wikipedia, both in English and Bahasa Melayu, therefore I suggest that you simplify the info from sections Transkripsi (2006 – 2007) till SATU, Tahajjud Cinta and CTKD (2009) into one section to balance it with the rest of the content. The Romance part should be included in the Biography section. Fanatix 12:22, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biography 

message: I deleted the pronunciation, which appeared to be neither English nor Malay. — kwami (talk) 02:02, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  pronunciation 

message: I think her official website is temporarily down, or under maintenance, till then, please don't remove the urls and links. XD SyFuelIgniteBurned 06:14, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  SitiZone 

message: I mean the Sep 30 2010 one. Looks like a queen depicted in an ancient painting (the picture itself does look like a painting, too) :) -andy 77.7.111.132 (talk) 03:07, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Love the pic! :) 

message: For me as a foreigner, Indonesian and Malay are near impossible to distinguish. :) You can see I'm not alone: linky Could anyone elaborate whether she released any songs in Indonesian, and if so, which? I can't believe she sold hundreds of thousands of records in Indonesian territory but sung everything in Malay... :-? -andy 77.7.111.132 (talk) 03:23, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi! I know the difficulty, because I have some International students friends who they too can't discern which one's which. Here's the thing, Siti used many Indonesian composers and lyricists in her albums, so some of the lyrics sounds Indonesian, and I think this is one of her ways to get accepted there, and this matter is great discussed some of Malaysian language purists. It is widely accepted that she sings in Bahasa Malaysia/Melayu, and not in Bahasa Indonesia. Feel free to ask at my talkpage. XD SyFuelIgniteBurned 07:45, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music in Indonesian language? 

message: Hello, Adiwarna has been tagged for notability for over six years, so is likely to be nominated for deletion. It mainly needs references, if anyone can help. Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 13:21, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the info dear. It's gonna take some time for me since I'll start to work soon, so I might need some time to juggle my time here and there. I'll try my best to add more references whenever I can. Again, thank you so much! <3 SyFuelIgniteBurned 09:28, 21 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Adiwarna]]

message: kak siti bagaimana ye mahu jadi penyanyi saya nak sangat jadi penyanyi terkenal saya mahu kak siti tolong.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.133.113.232 (talk) 05:25, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  bagaimana mahu jadi penyanyi?  

message: Note that the lead sentence should describe the person as he/she is usually described by WP:RS.  Siti Nurhaliza is usually described as a singer, e.g. , . Also, note that WP:BLPLEAD states: "avoid overloading the lead paragraph with various sundry roles; instead, emphasize what made the person notable. Incidental and non-notable roles should usually not be mentioned in the lead paragraph."  LK (talk) 12:01, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm following examples that were used on Good/Featured articles like Beyoncé, Michael Jackson and Mariah Carey. I have left out the writer and television presenters, but she has been record producer since 2007, songwriter since 1998, and she's a prominent businesswoman especially with SimplySiti ,  and her own fashion line, Creacion. I think record producer, songwriter and businesswoman are justified to be included in the lead since she has received both local and international recognition for them and not just a one-time thing.SyFuelIgniteBurned 14:07, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead sentence 

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message: Hi guys, did you agree if Siti Nurhaliza should be conferred the Honorary Degree from any universities in Malaysia although she never pursue her studies at the university? I think she deserved to received the recognition because she has contributed so much for Malaysian culture and infrastructure significantly.–175.143.169.0 (talk) 15:44, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: What's your opinion about that matter. 175.143.169.0 (talk) 00:29, 30 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Siti Nurhaliza should be conferred the Honorary Degree