Talk:Jane Eyre

message: I would like to propose a new link for your Jane Eyre page:
http://www.bl.uk/works/jane-eyre
This British Library’s site includes the autograph fair copy manuscript of Jane Eyre, as well as numerous contextual sources – Charlotte Bronte’s letters and diaries (http://www.bl.uk/collection-items/charlotte-brontes-journal , http://www.bl.uk/romantics-and-victorians/search?q=bronte+letter ) the Bronte children’s juvenilia (http://www.bl.uk/romantics-and-victorians/search?q=juvenilia ), a book written by the Reverend Carus Wilson (the founder of the school on which Lowood is based). It also includes articles written by leading scholars – e.g. Professor Sally Shuttleworth and Professor John Bowen (http://www.bl.uk/romantics-and-victorians/search?q=bronte&content_type=article ); and films created at the Bronte Parsonage (http://www.bl.uk/romantics-and-victorians/videos ). Surely this material will enrich users’ understanding of the novel and help illuminate the context in which the work was written.  
19thcenturylit (talk) 15:23, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: New link

message: I believe the "Spoilers end here" portion should be moved after "Background". Read: Helen Burns
Can't anybody get a better image than one from SNL?  Really, people.  That image detracts from the whole article, even with the caption that states it's satirical.  And a screenshot from any other real version of Jane Eyre would probably be more 'fair use' than this one is.  --TexasDex 23:13, Nov 23, 2004 (UTC)
: I agree that the image is not informative nor appropriate to be at the top of the article. I have moved it and the caption here to the talk page below. -- Infrogmation 23:22, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: spoiler location

message: Quotes section is too long should go to Wikiquote. Mandel 07:44, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
I have shortened this section and added a link to the Jane Eyre Wikiquote entry, as requested.
--Psipes 15:54, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes section 

message: I have something to add. The music video for "The Diary of Jane" by Braking Benjamin the tomb stone at the end reads Jane Eyre.
: (I added the title to break this from the entry on Jane Eyre the musical.)  The grave at the end of the BB video looks more like "Jane Bryan" - do you have a source from that band that contradicts this?  If not, I think it remains speculation.  Thanks! Cabiria 12:00, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breaking Benjamin Video 

message: Joes anyone know why there are ----- in the book where there should be place names?
:eh, I have no idea, but it's really annoying... I thought it wuz just an error in the book that I wuz reading (like the publishers, not the single book in itself) ~Sushi 05:16, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This was a really common device. For example in Persuasion by Jane Austen the book is all about Anne Eliot. Austen mentions her name a million times, the Eliots this, the Eliot pride... But when Anne is given a letter it is addressed to A. E---. ChristineD 23:24, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  --- For Place Names 

message: Can anyone tell me if there are any references to the Industrial Rev. in JE? I know that it was written a bit before the major boom happened but, any ideas?
::None that I can think of.  Economics enters mainly via the plantation system in the West Indies, and trade via Madeira.  Remember, too, that the book is set 20-30 years before it was written, and in the isolated north of England.Exitr 17:01, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Industrial Revolution 

message: Might I be allowed to add in the Criticism section the common opinion that the book is terribly boring? I can site sources. Of course these sources will range in age from approx. 13 to approx. 45 and be of both genders. I should have no trouble finding many such opinions. --72.12.30.143 07:41, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There IS a dog: Pilot, not to mention the spectral hound which gives Jane a fright on the moors. Colin4C 19:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message: I believe this idea is from the book Can Jane Eyre Be Happy: More Puzzles In Classic Literature by John Sutherland, but I haven't read it myself so I'm not sure if he originated this thought or if he cites other scholars who originated it. 
I've removed the entire Critcism section because the issue of syphilis seems just a tiny tangent of the enormous amount of scholarly criticism that exists on Jane Eyre. If someone is willing to tackle a more comprehensive survey of this topic, fine; otherwise it seems odd to focus on this one topic.
--Psipes 15:35, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bertha's supposed syphilitic infection 

message: This IS from 'Can Jane Eyre be Happy...' by John Sutherland. I'll put it here for now but I think (with a bit more work) it can go in the article. 
John Sutherland reinterpretes Mr Rochesters motives entirely. He claims that his wooing of Miss Blanche Ingram was NOT to make Jane jealous but because he wanted to marry Blanch. Then the relatives of his first wife, Bertha, told him privately that they had heard that he was planning bigamy, that they were keeping an eye on him, so he'd better think again. Thus Rochester got rid of Blanche against his will. The argument continues that, as Mr Rochester still wanted to get married, he had to pick someone obscure enough to fall under the radar of his first wife's family. Thus he picked Jane NOT because he was in love with her but because she was available and sufficiently unimportant. I can't remember if there was more to the argument. The essay then ends on a chilling note, suggesting that once Mr Rochester gets his eyesight back he will be an attractive member of society and he might then have better opportunities than Jane, making her unhappy. ChristineD 23:41, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is not the slightest hint in the novel to support Sutherland's interpretation. (Apart from the fact that if the first wife's relatives had hypothetically (!) heard about his intention to marry again and had (again hypothetically) warned him about that, they would have watched the not-at-all obscure member of the gentry Mr Rochester himself, not some potential brides.) 2003:7A:8E0E:8229:D4AF:2152:486B:FAC7 (talk) 22:31, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Reinterpretation of Mr Rochesters Motives

message: At the start of the book (at least, when Jane first meets her) the girl she's suppoz to teach is called Adela. Later this changes to Adéle. In this article, it says Adélè. What's her real name? ~Sushi 05:22, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Adélè

message: Infobox added, to the best of my ability. May need some better editing.--Psipes 20:19, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: infobox location

message: I've moved the info about Wide Sargasso Sea from the Criticism section to the Related works section. Although it can be read as a criticism of Jane Eyre, it can also be read as coexisting with the ideals of Jane Eyre, depending on how you interpret each work. In any case, discussion of this novel as a critique of Jane Eyre would fit better on the Wide Sargasso Sea Wikipedia entry. --Psipes 19:13, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wide Sargasso Sea 

message: I don't think this renaming is a good idea. Where there is one name which is by far the most common (as is the case here), it should be under that title. If Jane Eyre (the character) is made into an article, the approprite naming scheme would look like this:
Jane Eyre
-the page about the novel
Jane Eyre (disambiguation)
-containing links to all the others:
Jane Eyre (character)
Jane Eyre (musical)
Jane Eyre (opera)
etc.
Ziggurat 01:38, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what exactly you have a problem with.  As far as the novel being the most common article, I'm sure that's true,  but I found many links on the "What links here" page that were for the various film adaptations or the character.  I'm following the instructions laid out on the Wikipedia:Disambiguation page for creating a disambiguation page.  I, personally, was looking for the film(s) (after having found the novel's page) and was sent directly to the novel; I would rather be sent directly to the disambiguation page and then be able to choose which page to go to. -Shannernanner 01:50, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to add: upon re-reading, that seemed to come off rather snarky, and that's not how I meant it at all, I was just trying to be clear. :-) -Shannernanner 01:52, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No probs, I'm sure I come off as snarky as well :) Basically, given that all the other sources are adaptations of the book, and the book is by far the best-known work under this name (if I asked someone what Jane Eyre was, they're almost certain to think of the book), it seems to obviously qualify as a primary topic, in which case the disambiguation page should be at Jane Eyre (disambiguation) rather than Jane Eyre. This method is the standard, see for example Brave New World, Heart of Darkness, Sense and Sensibility, and lots more. Ziggurat 03:12, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see what you're saying, but I'm still not sure I agree.  Jane Eyre encompasses the novel, 17 film and television adaptations, the character, two actresses, various comics adaptations, a Broadway musical, a Broadway play, and an opera--and that's just what I've figured out from cleaning up some of the links.  Many of those, while "arguably" not as prominent as the novel, are prominent--whereas, just using the examples you listed, the Brave New World disambiguation page contains only one film adaptation and then various other things that people "probably" wouldn't expect to be a main article; Heart of Darkness, the same; and Sense and Sensibility contains only the book and film adaptation. Perhaps someone else should chime in here, because I'm not sure we're going to come to a consensus. :-) -Shannernanner 03:42, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

text: That seems like something of an ad-hoc argument to me. I'm offering some examples of what seems to be the standard - if you can suggest counterexamples where the disambig arrangement is the same as the one you've introduced here it'd be useful, because I can't find any from a quick perusal of :Category:Novels. But yeah, some more eyes would certainly be appropriate here :) Ziggurat 04:15, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you just want examples, I thought of one while I was posting before that I had just seen, but couldn't remember what it was; I just recalled it--David Copperfield.  One other I found with a bit of looking was Sophie's Choice. -Shannernanner 05:00, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Ah, well, David Copperfield I could see, seeing as there are at least two completely different major topics there (the book and the magician). Sophie's Choice not quite so appropriate. Nevertheless, I'm interested in other opinions on the matter! Ziggurat 05:20, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, you can make fun of me for that one, I was focused on looking up the book at the time and thought it interesting that it went to the disambiguation page. LOL -Shannernanner 05:58, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Readers would expect to find the novel when they search for Jane Eyre, so that should be in the un-disambiguated form with all others linked from a disambiguation page. Tim! 09:58, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renaming 

message: Saying Jane Eyre redirects here when the page is names Jane Eyre, is, IMO, both redundant and confusing.  I stronly suggest a different hat note.  Eluchil404 20:56, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed; 'Jane Eyre' does not redirect here, so the old notice is incorrect. I've changed it back. Ziggurat 21:03, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I don't have anything ivested in a particular wording, but the redirect claim is simply not accurate.  Eluchil404 21:10, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hat Note

message: I don't think this part of the article is true:
:It was also after the publication of Jane Eyre that Charlotte decided to reveal the true identity of Currer Bell, which put an end to some great public effort to pinpoint the book's author (even Thackeray himself had been among the nominees, and it may be noted here that Charlotte's dedicating the book to him was to cause her some greater embarrassment, when she found out about the parallels between the book's plot and Thackeray's domestic situation).
As far as I'm aware Charlotte Bronte used the pseudonym 'Currer Bell' for all the novels she wrote and published after 'Jane Eyre' (her first book). What she DID do was disassociate 'Currer Bell' from the novels produced by Ellis and Acton Bell (aka Emily and Anne Bronte - her sisters) which an unscrupulous publisher intimated were all produced by the same author, i.e. 'Currer Bell'. Some of the literati, such as Thackeray and Gaskell, eventually discovered that Currer Bell was in fact a woman called Charlotte Bronte, but this was not revealed to the general public until after her second novel. Colin4C 16:36, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Juliet Barker's 'The Brontes' (1994) Currer Bell's true identity as 'the daughter of the Rev P. Bronte' was revealed by the Bradford Observer on 28th Feb 1850, after the publication of 'Shirley': her second novel. But even despite this her third novel 'Villette' was still ascribed to 'Currer Bell' as the author. Charlotte Bronte did not want her true identity revealed to the public. Colin4C 20:53, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If Charlotte Bronte had wanted to reveal who Currer Bell was why did she not put her name on ANY of the novels published in her lifetime? The whole point about a pseudonym is that people won't recognise who you are. Charlotte Bronte was, in fact, severely embarrassed when AFTER the publication 'Shirley' the Bradford Observer connected 'Currer Bell' with 'the daughter of P. Bronte': so much so that she wanted her next novel 'Villette' to come out completely anonymously so that it wouldn't be connected to her through the now blown identity of 'Currer'. Her publishers however overruled her: 'Currer Bell' was a big draw for their readership. Charlotte even wrote an (unpublished) introduction to Shirley in the name of Currer Bell, under a male guise as the aforesaid Currer was imagined by many to a man: the 'naughty' and 'coarse' nature of 'Jane Eyre' proved as much...Colin4C 19:43, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Currer Bell 

message: In the following line, it appears that Jane wishes to speak to Aunt Read, whereas in the book Aunt Reed sends for Jane.
As the house party continues, Jane receives a visit from her Aunt's coachman, informing her that her Aunt Reed is dying after suffering a stroke, and wishes to speak with her.
Interesting point.  I read the line to read her Aunt wished to speak with her.  Later the passage spoke about the letter for Jane withheld from Jane by her Aunt and confirmed my reading of the line.  I missed the ambiquity here, perhaps deliberate.  The passage also states the Aunt rejected Janes' attempt at reconcilliation, suggesting Jane also had a wish connected with the meeting.  
Here seems a core conflict between Jane and her Aunt.  Jane seeks independence and forgiveness.  This defines relationships for her.  Her Aunt accepts her dependent status and seems unwilling to forgive and this was the status of relationships in the culture.  71.53.195.160 (talk) 14:40, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear Use of Pronoun 

message: I have restored unjustifiably deleted referenced and relevent material on the literary allusions and Gothic aspects of Jane Eyre. Colin4C 17:37, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unjustified Deletion of Referenced Material 

message: Unless the literary allusions are explained (the previous version of the article just says they simply exist), and unless a page number is given for Davies' introduction, I think they should be removed. Furthermore, what was wrong with the more detailed plot summary, the character list, or the theme descriptions of the page you deleted? Could you explain why you deleted them, Colin4C?
[above comment unsigned] 
:You have deleted referenced relevent material derived from notable Bronte scholar Davies and then replaced it with your own totally unreferenced original research. That is not the way the wikipedia works. Also you should sign your own name after your comments here, not my name! Colin4C 09:45, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RE: Unjustified Deletion of Referenced Material 

message: You're right about the signature and keeping the previous version's referenced material. However, most of the first version of the article was not referenced. Only the literary allusions and the autobiographical aspects, a mere two paragraphs, were. There was no call to delete all my additions, which are extremely difficult to reference. Practically no Wikipedia article includes references for character lists, for example. I am uploading my version again, but this time I am including all the references and text of the motifs, literary allusions, and autobiographical aspects from the previous version. As for my other additions (character list, themes, expanded synopsis), check out Cliffsnotes or some such website to verify them. Massyold 15:51, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Including Previous Version's References, Other Material in Expanded Version 

message: In the Plot Introduction there is the statement Jane Eyre was "partly autobiographical". That implies much...like the idea that Charolotte might have fallen in love with her employer(?) I don't remember anything of that sort in the several Bronte Biographies. Could someone enlighten me why Jane Eyre was "partly autobiographical"? Was it the stories of her time at school when she was young (based on the school she and her sisters attended) - should it then say that some earler sections of the book were autobiographical? Because much of the book is concerned with the Jane/Rochester relationship...I found it startingly as if there was a love affair I was unaware of concerning an employer.
In 1824 the four eldest Bronte sisters were sent to a boarding school for daughters of the clergy. Maria and Elizabeth were taken ill there and died in 1825. Charlotte later fictionalized the school as Lowood in Jayne Eyre. Maybe the article could be more specific on this point. The character of Rochester has been said by some critics to have been partly inspired by the Bronte women's dissolute brother. Natalie West 01:15, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've incorporated a bit about this famous sentence in the page now. Laurier (xe or they) (talk) 11:12, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Partly Autobiographical" 

message: I'm not sure if it's even possible to source this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Benmachine (talk • contribs) 10:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "It is Brontë's strongest work" 

message: Hi all, I'd like to propose a new link for External Links. Per the comments in that section, I'm proposing it here first, rather than just adding the link. Proposed link:
*Jane Eyre analysis on Shmoop - summary, themes, quotes, characters, essay writing guide, trivia, links to audio, video, photos.
This literary analysis is written for Shmoop by a 5th year Ph.D. in English at Berkeley. Jane Eyre is one of her very favorite books. She also teaches English to undergrads at Berkeley. Shmoop provides deep analysis of the novel (over 125 printed pages worth of original analysis) and also offers an interactive tool to help students organize their thoughts for a paper. The Shmoop coverage also includes a number of links to resources on other websites (video, audio, photos, related topics, etc.)
Thanks!
Barriodude (talk) 04:34, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Barriodude added one of these links to Pride and Prejudice, and I was pretty suspicious of it, but I've just spent some time there and it really does seem to be a useful resource.  Someone's sure to come along and say "he's adding all these links to the one site, it must be spam".  So I say have a look for yourself; if it's useful and doesn't duplicate what the existing links have to offer, what's wrong with having lots of links to it?  So long as each link is on a page where it actually belongs, it seems appropriate.  -- Zsero (talk) 05:06, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, I'm one of those people. If we allow this, we'll have to allow every serial spammer through. I don't believe that's the right approach. - Dudesleeper /  Talk 10:48, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely: spam is spam.  Read Wikipedia's external links policy.  This is classic Spam and a conflict of interest on the part of the adding editor, whose user page acknowledges that they are trying to launch the site.  Besides, we want our articles to be excellent, complete articles, not stubs with long lists of links elsewhere.  -- Mwanner | Talk 12:40, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  This is hardly a stub!  Not everything that is valuable belongs in WP itself - that's why we have ELs.  Note that Barriodude didn't just add the link to the article.  Having seen the instruction to discuss all new links to this page first, he came here to do so.  This hardly seems typical of a spammer.   -- Zsero (talk) 17:49, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Whatever, it fails WP:EL. I will also point out that there should only be a handful of external links, and that there must be better choices if we really must have another link. I've read the link and frankly I'm not impressed. 13:25, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New External Link 

message: I split the lengthy plot summary into the five sections discussed in the "Plot introduction" using the roman numeral forms of the chapter numbers as they appear in the original text.  I don't like the way this looks and wonder if they should be rewritten in arabic numerals.  Any thoughts?  Autopilot (talk) 01:32, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I changed to arabic numerals after restoring the images. --Bensin (talk) 17:37, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Great -- I like the images, too.  There were some other changes that I had made to the text that were lost in the reversion to the earlier version with the images; I'll re-merge them.  --Autopilot (talk) 19:18, 28 December 2008 (UTC)

text: Also, I removed the part of Mr. Rochester calling Jane a witch when they meet on the road for the first time.  While that does occur in the Masterpiece Theatre version of the story, it is not in the original book (Chapter XII). --Autopilot (talk) 20:40, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot sections 

message: Why does the plot summary need to be shortened; its all relevant to the original book - and its better to have more information than less. Its not inconvienient to read either; not with the introduction of the plot sections. I hope people don't mind if I delete the banner for now - you can always put it back there later if you feel I've done wrong.   comment added by 78.147.245.79 (talk) 17:33, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Plot summary has been shortened by User:Brittanyyclaire. It's down to around 1,000 words now. Roseclearfield (talk) 14:49, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion to Shorten the Plot Summary 

message: 71.58.212.134 said Helen Burns does not die in Jane's arms. It is the other way around. She dies while holding onto Jane in a motherly fashion. This is significant because it adds to Jane's obsession with mother figures.  My reading of Chapter IX is unclear:
I learned that Miss Temple, on returning to her own room at dawn, had found me laid in the little crib; my face against Helen Burns's shoulder, my arms round her neck. I was asleep, and Helen was--dead.
--Autopilot (talk) 23:13, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Helen's death -- who is holding whom? 

message: Who would be the one with autism spectrum disorder???  Jane or the mad wife.  The section on that does not seem to be very clear to me.  Do we need to clean it up??? --Miagirljmw14 Miagirljmw~talk 23:48, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confused 

message: See subject line.--WickerGuy (talk) 19:04, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead Link Removed. Anyone know how to get page out of "hidden" category "Articles with Dead Links"?? 

message: Original salary of 15 for teaching at Lowood was correct. Revision to 30 was wrong. 30 is what she gets working for Rochester at Thornfield.--WickerGuy (talk) 19:41, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision as of 18:27, 29 July 2010 

message: I removed the link " [ http://www.booksshouldbefree.com/book.jsp?id=97 Complete Audiobook] MP3 - Public Domain" because it was flagged as possible malware by google. The site has possible traces of "bin.clearspring.com" which hosts malware. This was just a precaution, if anyone proves this was a false positive or if there is no danger then restore it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.201.104.229 (talk) 16:21, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link removed 

message: The article doesn't cite any references on the literary significance of the novel to justify a Top importance assessment.--Sum (talk) 15:00, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment as Top importance 

message: I wanted to change the IPA to the British pronunciation, i.e. without an R sound at the end, on the grounds that Jane Eyre is a British character in a British book, but it went wrong and I don't know how to fix it. APW (talk) 21:01, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure how to help, since my variety is rhotic, with the Mary–marry–merry merger. I suggest reading WP:IPAE. An important point to keep in mind is that you should leave the r on the end. That's the convention in WP's broad phonemic transcription. Ntsimp (talk) 16:57, 26 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sorry, messed up the IPA of the name Eyre 

message: I'm very sorry for the huge boneheaded mistake I made removing text from this article. I thought I was editing the version on my drawing board (in my userspace)! Many thanks to  for quickly reverting my idiocy. Scartol • Tok 17:36, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apologies for the drastic edit 

message: I changed "oak" to "chestnut".  It was a chestnut tree that was struck by lightning.
4.249.63.48 (talk) 23:18, 9 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  error in fact 

message: The 1943 film is supposedly based on a script written for Orson Welles' Mercury Theater radio program. WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 07:09, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: radio versions

message: I've revised the language of the Wycoller Hall para with the aim of paring down its speculative feel and removing weasel expressions. A more scholarly source than ww.friendsofwycoller.co.uk is needed however. asnac (talk) 07:09, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wycoller Hall 

message: I propose removing the entire third paragraph. It would appear to be largely irrelevant to the subject being, mostly, a discussion of Fischer's theory and not about the novel and as such does not belong in such a prominent position. There are multiple contentious issues with the paragraph as it stands - the evocation of the North Midlands is disputable, the undue weight given to the description "Quaker-like", the idea that the Norman Conquest was based on French Catholicism, the idea that either Brocklehurst or St. John Rivers were Calvinists and the mention of the drafting of The US Constitution.
The first sentence might be accommodated elsewhere - perhaps in the Influences section.
Panama1958 (talk) 09:58, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  David Hackett Fischer 

message: In the section "Morality" and in the section "God and Religion" there are references to the Puritanism of Brocklehurst and St. John Rivers. I would suggest that this word is wrong for the time and place and, more importantly, for Church of England priests. 
Brocklehurst is plainly a hypocrite but there is nothing in the text to suggest that he is a Puritan ( check out the Wikipedia entries on the history and beliefs of Puritanism). I intend, unless someone comes up with a better suggestion, removing the words "hypocritical puritanism" with hypocrisy.
St. John Rivers would appear, from the text, to be a Low Church Evangelical (see the Wikipedia entries on History of the Church of England) who is obsessive about what he sees as his duty, as a Christian, to spread his religion. Again there is nothing to suggest Puritanism which was, in any case, a philosophy from a different age. I would suggest replacing "Puritanism" with religious fervour - again, subject to a better idea.
Panama1958 (talk) 10:22, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Puritan 

message: I think it should be well reworded. It doesn't sound impartial. what do you guys think?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.97.38.143 (talk) 02:07, 27 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro sounds like a book's inner copy 

message: Substituted at 19:33, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: recently added info to the infobox, stating that the novel's number of pages is 919. This was sourced to a description of a first edition at an auctioneer's website (here). However, a look at Wikisource shows the actual last page of the novel at p382 (here), and this to me seems more reasonable than 919, which is rather a lot (my single-volume copy of The Lord of the Rings only has 1069 pages). PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 13:14, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: That's from a later edition published by W Nicholson & Sons. First edition by Smith, Elder & Co. was 919 pages in 3 volumes. Debbiesw (talk) 13:17, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Those Victorians used much bigger letters, than Hobbits, so no surprise they needed more pages. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:30, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but over twice as many? Could there be an error at the auctioneer's page? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 13:37, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: As a quick example, this bargain (although doesn't say original binding?), gives " [xiii], 303; 304; 304;" which indeed totals 919. (Note: shipping from US is a mere £27.47 - a bargain!) Martinevans123 (talk) 17:34, 30 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of pages 

message: The Reception section of the article implies by its quote that the novel was not well received. I believe this requires further research and possibly correction.
I created an ngram of novels that were somewhat contemporary and found that whether it was positive or negative publicity, the book certainly had a significant amount written about it right from publication.
https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=Jane+Eyre%2CWuthering+Heights%2CFrankenstein%2CA+Tale+of+Two+Cities%2CThe+Picture+of+Dorian+Gray&year_start=1800&year_end=2000&corpus=15&smoothing=3&share=&direct_url=t1%3B%2CJane%20Eyre%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CWuthering%20Heights%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CFrankenstein%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CA%20Tale%20of%20Two%20Cities%3B%2Cc0%3B.t1%3B%2CThe%20Picture%20of%20Dorian%20Gray%3B%2Cc0
 
Eltimbalino (talk) 10:24, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception 

message: The section on Jane Eyre in [Charlotte Brontë] is WAY better and more accurate than the section on "Reception" in this article. Is it legal to merely copy those paragraphs from the Charlotte Brontë article into this one?
I am specifically talking about this text:
Jane Eyre had immediate commercial success and initially received favourable reviews. G. H. Lewes wrote that it was "an utterance from the depths of a struggling, suffering, much-enduring spirit," and declared that it consisted of "suspiria de profundis!" (sighs from the depths).[16] Speculation about the identity and gender of the mysterious Currer Bell heightened with the publication of Wuthering Heights by Ellis Bell (Emily) and Agnes Grey by Acton Bell (Anne).[17] Accompanying the speculation was a change in the critical reaction to Brontë's work, as accusations were made that the writing was "coarse",[18] a judgement more readily made once it was suspected that Currer Bell was a woman.[19] However, sales of Jane Eyre continued to be strong and may even have increased as a result of the novel developing a reputation as an "improper" book.[20] A talented amateur artist, Brontë personally did the drawings for the second edition of Jane Eyre and in the summer of 1834 two of her paintings were shown at an exhibition by the Royal Northern Society for the Encouragement of the Fine Arts in Leeds.[11]  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.153.224.167 (talk) 22:50, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception - Use the paragraphs from Charlotte Bronte 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I have tagged this article as incomplete, because there is no discussion themes, or of the Byronic hero and the gothic dimension, and the "Reception" section is inadequate. It is sad to find such a poor article on a major novel. Rwood128 (talk) 16:54, 10 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem I see begins with the lead section, besides being poorly written and ugly to read, it doesn't have any correlation at all with the main body of the article. "Jane Eyre revolutionised the art of fiction", led to the writings of Proust and Joyce, influenced sexuality, religion, feminism and so forth; none of these things are expounded upon at all in the article. Three quarters of the page is devoted to plot summary/characters. There is zilch about Jane Eyre's influence upon anyone or anything under the "Adaptations and influence" section. Very sad to see the page like this, it needs serious renovation. Michael0986 (talk) 04:56, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomplete 

message: Note a. on this article states "The exact time setting of the novel is impossible to determine, as several references in the text are contradictory. For example, Marmion (pub. 1808) is referred to in Chapter 32 as a "new publication", but Adèle mentions crossing the Channel by steamship, impossible before 1816."
A comment on the talk page for Wide Sargasso Sea notes that "Jane Eyre is not set in 1810 - she receives a copy of Marmion which was not available in a fairly-priced version until the release of the 1825 folio." - so perhaps Marmion being a "new publication" is referring to that 1825 date?
That said, it's also perfectly possible that Charlotte Bronte wasn't that fussed about making the setting realistic :) Dichohecho (talk) 13:19, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marmion & Dating 

message: Can we add a link to the Standard Ebooks edition of Jane Eyre? I consider Standard Ebooks to be an important project in literature, and not just merely a website where one can get an ebook. The project makes public domain ebooks more suitable for modern e-readers. In addition, they use public domain artwork for their covers. The project is a free, open-source effort and its values and goals are a noble contribution to humanity. 
This is the link that I suggest:
* Jane Eyre at Standard Ebooks
Deldred (talk) 21:22, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add Link 

message: Get rid? It's unimportant; what it does say could easily condense into a paragraph in Context (I suggest it shouldn't). TheScarletPeacock (talk) 21:04, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colonial Context section 

message: Hi, I've been working on editing the Gothic double article for the past few months. It is still classified as a stub so I'm looking to divert some more traffic to the article in order for its classification to go up. I have a section on how the motif is used in Jane Eyre (with Bertha symbolising Jane's alter ego), and was wondering if I could please add a sentence or two in this article mentioning the use of the motif, and with a hyperlink to my own article? Please let me know. Thank you so much! Snowdrop Fairy (talk) 07:42, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request to add connection to other article 

message: — Assignment last updated by Gcampbel (talk) 13:11, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Intertextuality

message: Hi, everyone! I wanted leave a brief message to talk about what I plan to add to the Jane Eyre page for my Wiki Education assignment. I noticed that the Genre and Theme sections lack in content and depth. I would like to expand on these topics so readers get a more encompassing understanding about Jane Eyre. That being said, I plan to add a Bildungsroman genre and Gothic genre. For the themes, I plan to add a Social Class theme and Religion theme. A lot of these additions are based on other people's thoughts on the Talk page, and I hope you will see that these areas could be improved upon. Mbjones00 (talk) 01:45, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding to article for Wiki Education assignment