Talk:Pittsburgh Tribune-Review

message: I added the latest circulation numbers, as reported by ABC.  I do NOT have the numbers for the entire fleet of newspapers.  Now that the papers are consolidating into one mega-daily, this ABC circ number, and rate of decline, should change.
Lionel of Pittsburgh 15:01, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Circ Numbers

message: I erased the negative comment about a football story because, frankly, it doesn't seem all that important to lay readers. I also changed the "story" concerning the opinion page editor to "flap" because he did not report the story. It was reported by other media. The issue has been covered in another Wiki forum. LionelDPittsburgh 03:39, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Football Story

message: An editor replaced this material:
*One Tribune-Review flap went national when Colin McNickle, editor of the newspaper's editorial page, attended a July 26, 2004 speech at the Massachusetts State House given by Teresa Heinz Kerry, who had been the subject of two negative articles in the Tribune-Reviews's opinion pages. After the speech, there was a dispute between McNickle and Heinz Kerry over her use of the term "un-American activity."
With this material:
*On August 21, 2007, in its Datelines feature, the Tribune-Review printed the news story of Daad Mohammed Murad Abdul Rahman, a sixty-years old one-legged man who is the father of 78 in the United Arab Emirates, who hopes to father his 100th child by 2015. He has had 15 brides.
With the edit summary :
*Discard the old gossip from 2004 and place a news item about Daad Mohammed Murad Abdul Rahman from 2007 in the article 
The first story was a nationally-reported incident in which the widow of a prominent PA senator, current wife of presidential candidate, chewed out a T-R reporter in front of news cameras. Therfore it is newsworthy and directly related to the subject of the article. On the other hand, I don't see what a story about old Arab has to do with the newspaper. Why is it being inserted?  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 17:53, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, that information does not belong here. --64.247.120.131 14:04, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is clogged full of stories related to "African Americans" (people who did not exist 50 years ago), but Wikipedia has nothing written about that Arab who has fathered 78 children.  Wikipedia is an unbalanced biased encyclopedia that avoids important subjects while emphasizing subjects of little or no importance, especially those "African American" materials.  HeyYallYo (talk) 15:04, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Gossip"? 

message: It has been reported as part of the coverage of R.M. Scaife's recent divorce that the Tribune Review has lost $20 - $30 million annually since 1992.  (see this article in the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/07266/819835-85.stm) 
I'd like to see a section on the paper's finances included, especially if Scaife has ever gone on record discussing why he is willing to continue losing money on the Trib.  If anyone knows more details about this could they add a section? Jmdt1975 15:31, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tribune Review Finances 

message: Why was the page moved from "Pittsburgh Tribune-Review" to "Trib Total Media"? Has the paper been renamed? We don't normally name articles about newspapers after their holding companies. If the holding company is notable it should get an article of its own.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 04:49, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The company is the largest media company in Western Pennsylvania with seven daily papers, 14 weeklies, five magazines, many Web sites and more. The move signifies the company's rebranding efforts under the Trib Total Media name to reflect all of its products as one. Given the company's attempt at creating one branding source, there wouldn't be enough content to warrant a page for each of its publications. In recent years, everything has fallen under the Trib Total Media name when referencing anything related to the newspaper company. I think it's a unique situation, unlike other regional newspaper publishing companies. --Write On 1983 (talk) 04:59, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your reply. As far as I can see on the P T-R's website, it is still called the "Pittsburgh Tribune-Review". I suggest that this article remain about the well-known newspaper and a small article be created about the holding company and its minor newspapers. As an exmaple of why this should stay at the old name, see this article: Hell Freezes Over: Scaife Paper Backs Hillary. It doesn't even mention Trib Total Media.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 05:09, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The only concern I would have is that while the PTR is part of TTM, the company doesn't just focus on that product. The history of the PTR intertwines with that of the overall company with the consolidations, mergers, circulation. For instance, TTM doesn't segregate its circulation numbers, instead lumping all seven of its daily papers together. That is an indication that the company isn't solely focused on PTR. My concern would be, how can the PTR have a page and the TTM have a page without practically being the same page? I'm not opposed to a separate page, I'm just concerned that a page for PTR and TTM would have identical information. Thanks! --Write On 1983 (talk) 23:38, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any article or website that discusses the corporate organization?  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 02:06, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I appreciate Write On 1983's thinking on the corporate structure of this company, but Wikipedia guidelines say that articles should be where readers are likely to look for them. My guess is that no one in Pittsburgh says, "I'm gonna pick me up a Trib Total Media paper." And this article is about the newspaper, not the corporate parent. Unless there's some indication that "TTM" is now the most common name for this paper I think it should be moved back.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 11:04, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to move the article back to its old title for the time being. I recognize that the issue is fluid, and that the "TTM" name may be more appropriate in the future. I think there is likely a third way to handle the matter of the parent corporation and the subsidairy properties.  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 11:59, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I understand the Wikipedia guideline and know that with many newspapers, the company name isn't referenced often. However, if you look to advertising done in major Pittsburgh venues (Mellon Arena, PNC Park), the company uses "Trib Total Media" whereas, the Post-Gazette uses "Pittsburgh Post-Gazette" in advertising. My argument is that the company itself doesn't use the "Pittsburgh Tribune-Review" name nearly as much as Trib Total Media and therefore should be referenced as such. The individual papers the company owns use their own name, but they all fall under Trib Total Media. --Write On 1983 (talk) 20:41, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As a practical matter, I found during the move that the vast majority of Wikipedia articles that link to this topic use the newspaper name rather than the corporate name. As for its use in the Pittsburgh area, do we have any way of gauging its popular use? Do other local newspapers refer to the TTM or to the PT-R? Isn't there a Pittsburgh media watchdog blog? Meanwhile, how about creating a paragraph about the parent company and its other properties?  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 21:01, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I see that a local paper called it the "PT-R" when disucssing its coverage last month. This article about closures doens't mention "TTM".  ·:· Will Beback  ·:· 21:09, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move 

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message: My July garden is in a vacant lot and it is really looking good. I would like a human interest story about my garden in a vacant lot one of many vacant lots in East Pittsburgh. What say you? 2601:545:8000:770:9D1F:8072:83CB:AA1 (talk) 00:40, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  vacant lot garden in East Pittsburgh needs recognition