Talk:Eschede train disaster

message: Someone needs to check the "rumour" and "investigations" mentioned, also the bit about a wheel leaping thru the carriage floor. Rich   Farmbrough 22:35, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "rumour" and "investigations" 

message: The article does not address how many officials, engineers and capitalists have been demoted and imprisoned for their criminal role in this railway disaster! In Japan's Shinkansen the entire railway crew would commit seppuku after such an event!
It was not an accident, an accident is an "act of God" which is unpreventable. This tragedy was caused by careless people at all levels and their names should be put to display to publicly humiliate them for killing so many innocent people! In Europe the railway guilty are never punished as seen with this ICE and the austrian ski funicular train inferno! 195.70.32.136 19:13, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone who talks about "acts of God" wants to tell other people about how to deal with such a disaster? Good joke! Now calm yourself down and find some other place to express your personal opinion. -- Imladros 23:24, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cooler and the firing squad 

message: The coordinates go out to the 100-trillionth (American) of a degree.  If my rough calculation is correct, for the latitude calculation (for which a change in latitude is constant for any latitude (which is not the case for longitude)), this last decimal place would correspond to something on the order of a hundredth of an Angstrom.  This would be only about 1000 times larger than the size of a proton, or about one-fiftieth the size of the Bohr radius.  The area of the accident is obviously much larger than this.  So, I'm going to see if I can change this to the ten-thousandth of a degree instead. Ufwuct 03:03, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since no one had any objection for almost two months, I've deleted 9 out of the 15 significant figures for the location.  For the latitude, this corresponds to something on the order of 20 meters, which is a more appropriate scale for such large wreckage site.  Ufwuct 21:11, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Numerical Precision 

message: I don't know about the bridge design being a factor on the accident.  The train was already derailed when it hit the bridge.  While the bridge may have been a factor on the inpact of the fifth car (I think), the bridge's design wouldn't have stopped the accident from happening.
The wheel's ring made an inpact with a rail changer section which caused the car to take another set of rails while the first few cars were on the normal track.  This caused the derailment of the rest of the cars. --Cirilobeto 21:40, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The deck of the bridge collapsed upon several carriages, crushing them and their inhabitants and providing a solid block of concrete for the rear carriages to collide into, after the bridge support had been knocked away by the initial derailment. People standing on or under the bridge (DB workers; it's not known exactly where they were) were also killed by the bridge collapse. So yes, the bridge design did contribute to the severity of the accident.  ProhibitOnions  (T) 21:55, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I do agree that it did contribute to the severity of the accident.  There is no question about it.  But its design was not a factor in the accident itself happening, because the bridge collapsed AFTER the train hit.  --Cirilobeto 20:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bridge design? 

message: I've changed the coordinates in the article to show the actual bridge that was destroyed in the accident. Previously, they pointed to the site where the wheel came loose - while this may technically _be_ the site of the accident, the bridge is the site where the disastrous outcome is most obvious, and also where the monument is located. (As to be seen in the satellite picture) --doco (☏) 16:31, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geolocation 

message: "In Germany, companies may not be tried in criminal courts; only people may be tried.[1]"
This is not a correct info. They can be tried, but only real legal persons can be sentenced.    —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.210.48.42 (talk) 01:01, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you mean the inverse: a legal person is a company, and it's kind of hard to lock buildings up. Physical entities, on the other hand, can be. There is often, however, provision for the suspension of legal entity (I'm thinking here of Belgian Law on ASBL charities, which is not of course relevant here), but the general opposition to such a policy is that many innocent employees suffer as a result, so it has never, to the best of my knowledge, been applied.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.25.40.112 (talk) 08:58, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legal 

message: Hi!
I would like to thank the author(s) for his(their) work.
I've translated this article into French for wikipedia.
Best regards 82.251.242.150 23:22, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thanks and translation 

message: One paragraph says, "The rear axles of car number 3 were switched onto a parallel track, and the entire car was thereby thrown into the piers supporting a 300-tonne roadway overpass, destroying them."
The very next paragraph says, "The breaking of the car couplings caused the automatic brakes to engage and the mostly undamaged cars 1 to 3 (as well as the front power head) came to a halt at the Eschede train station, some three kilometers (two miles) down the track."
So was Car 3 thrown into the overpass, or did Car 3 make it safely to the station?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.143.179.133 (talk) 15:27, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at this picture, Car 3 ist the third from the left side. His last part was dissected like with a knife. --Jklö2 (talk) 11:42, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two different fates given for Car 3 

message: Car 7 was the restaurant car and according to the article was crushed.  Car 8 was the power car.  Cars 10 through 12 were first-class cars.So what was Car 9? (It presumably was also wrecked.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Paul Abrahams (talk • contribs) 02:11, 6 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The restaurant car.Tvx1 15:36, 2 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  What was Car 9? 

message: The article only states . Details please!
What caused casualties in the "front part" of the train?
Did everybody in the "rear carriages" die? Or what chance is "little"?
CapnZapp (talk) 22:58, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  locations of casualties 

message: Hi @David notMD, you removed the Volkswagen Golf theory from this article. I think it should be included because it was part of the analysis process what happened during the crash. Do you disagree? PhotographyEdits (talk) 19:22, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree, but if you restore it, I will defer to your decision. David notMD (talk) 19:28, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: @David notMD Fair enough, I'll think about it. PhotographyEdits (talk) 23:15, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Volkswagen Golf 

message: I wanted to read the original investigation report and sent an email to the archive department of Deutsche Bahn. I got the following reply: 
"Thank you for your message. Unfortunately, we cannot help you any further, as this report is not public and interests of third parties are also affected."
It means that the best possible source is not publicly available, which is sad. I'm leaving it here so nobody is going to do duplicate efforts in this case. PhotographyEdits (talk) 12:26, 16 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fraunhofer / DB report