Talk:Contrabassoon

message: Range on the chart is sounding! And it doesn't say that as in articles about other instruments.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.30.231.122 (talk) 07:24, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Range 

message: All reported information about the history of contrabassoon are from the book “The contrabassoon, history and technique” edition Ricordi, Milan.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by WellerKontra (talk • contribs) 13:36, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Brahms uses the contra in all but one of his symphonies; in #2 he uses a tuba instead, the only time he did so. I don't know why he made that choice...anybody have an idea? Wspencer11 20:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brahms and the contrabassoon 

message: Bach calls for the contrabassoon in the St. John Passion. Shouldn't that get preference over the Beethoven example? And does it turn up in the original wind-band scoring for Handel's Fireworks Music? --Wspencer11 (talk to me...) 16:10, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early contra usage 

message: The range shown seems awfully small. The Bassoon is shown with a 4 and a half octave range, and I know the contrabassoon has a slightly larger range from personal experience. Its not pretty, its not used it any normal music...but neither is the range given for the bassoon.   15:14, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not a bassoonist or contrabassoonist, but I note Grove says "from B (or even A) upwards to f or even c'." For bassoon Grove says "The standard compass of the present-day bassoon is from B' to f or g." -- Rsholmes 14:54, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contrabassoon range? 

message: The tone, even playing the same sounding note, is NOT like that of the bassoon.  There is no mistaking it.  It's easy to say here it sounds like a bassoon, but use your ears, it doesn't.  That's as subtle as saying the cornet sounds like a trumpet.  Can someone put a more considered description of the sound.  It could be described as a more gentle sound when in its middle register that the bassoon playing its bottom register - sounding the same notes.  Help needed from a bassoon/contra player. P0mbal (talk) 16:13, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What we need is a direct comparison: two audio files of the same exerpt, one on each instrument. Speaking of audio files, I don't think the first one ("Uncertainty") provides a clear sample of the contrabassoon sound - it's too cluttered with other instruments. Tayste (edits) 21:30, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tone like a Bassoon? 

message: Just a comment really, since I have played both tuba and contrabassoon.  Re the range of the EE tuba: yes the open tuba is shorter than the contrabassoon, but with all three valves down, it is longer, reaching the note A0.  Tubas with four valves can go even lower, as can the larger CC and BB tubas. People reading about the contrabassoon may be interested in which instrument can play the lowest note.  Note sure how best to present this information and what references would be required. Tayste (edits) 21:24, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which instrument is the lowest 

message: I will be editing the article to clarify the range of the contrabassoon.  The existence of a single instrument capable of playing down to Ab0 (written Ab1) is already noted in the "notable contrabassoons" section and including Ab0 in the standard range of the instrument is misleading. (By that standard, we could include low A in the standard range of the alto saxophone as at least one low A alto sax has been built.) Furthermore, the idea that the range should include Ab0 (even as an option) cannot be supported in a single source I have been able to find.  Regarding the upper range, I have many contrabassoon and bassoon books and could quote a source for at least 9 possible upper notes.  Out of the available options, I will be using D4 (written D5) as it appears in a modern, high-quality, contrabassoon-specific source (Ricordi's "The Contrabassoon: History and Technique") and is the highest note that appears in an orchestral excerpt that appears at least semi-regularly in audition lists (John Adams's Chamber Symphony).  For the "safe" range, I will be leaving it as A3 (written A4). A4 appears in several of the oldest pieces in the contrabassoon repertoire (Beethoven 9, Brahms 1) but I do not know what source the original contributor used.  MadContrabassoonist (talk) 09:05, 14 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Range, Part III 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I disagree with the removal of the mfgrs section. It is interesting since few firms manufacture this instrument. Also the historic info for firms which did one manufacture is valuable as well. This information is not collected anywhere else online, and wiki is the appropriate place for such information. 2600:1700:22F0:59EF:D0F6:1E6F:2187:515D (talk) 18:22, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-include manufacturers section! 

message: There is a lower variant of the contrabassoon called the "subcontrabassoon".  At first, this instrument was only theoretical, but in 2021, a subcontrabassoon was actually built.  The subcontrabassoon sounds one octave below a contrabassoon.
47.12.180.193 (talk) 15:49, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a quick response to say that it wouldn't be proper for me to add a subcontrabassoon page, or add subcontrabassoon info to the contrabassoon page, since the whole project is my original work and I am undoubtably biased on the matter.  I'm not advocating for or against a page, but just pointing out that someone else would need to be the one to actually do it. MadContrabassoonist (talk) 16:45, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subcontrabassoon