Talk:Johannes Heesters

message: So evidently the person(s) who wrote this article thinks that with respect to being rude to an old friend of Hitlers: "The opinions greatly differ, although the general opinion is that it is no way to treat a 105 year old." HUH???  Whose general opinion? Certainly I don't think it would be true in Canada or the U.S.   Here rudeness to extremely old nazi-symapthisers isn't frowned upon.  But in any case maybe this is the general opinion in Holland (although frankly I absolutely doubt it - Netherlanders remember the Occupation), if so please back up this statement of fact with some sort of objective verification.  Otherwise I will remove this ridiculous sentence. Canuckistani 17:14, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: POV Concerns and Just Plain Weirdness

message: Recent Deaths Page here on wikipedia reports his death, but with lack of citation. Can anyone find anything on this? Weatherman90 01:03, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead?

message: On July 27, 2006, Heesters gave a concert in Bad Ischl. See Antonio Fian's review at http://derstandard.at/?url=/?id=2534855 . <KF> 20:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also still newsworthy it seems.--T. Anthony (talk) 11:40, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Alive!

message: Roger Tréville was 103 years old. He is oldest actor 
http://imdb.com/name/nm0874576/
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Tr%C3%A9ville
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Tr%C3%A9ville —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.30.172.74 (talk) 07:44, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On what planet 103 is oldern than 108? 46.114.106.184 (talk) 03:31, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Roger Tréville

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Heesters at 98.jpg

message: I removed this from the very end of the "Career" section:
:His longevity is not atypical for his family. One of his grandfathers died at age 108.
This has had a  tag attached for over a year now. Lots of people have looked at the article in the meantime, but nobody has provided a reference for the claim. Thus, I don't think it should be in the article until and unless such evidence is provided. Loganberry (Talk) 16:12, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Line removed 

message: ...trying to get this to FA-status? Does it have any chance? Pierlot (talk) 11:20, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that fan pictures of Heesters are currently being spammed around Wikipedia would weigh against it.  --CliffC (talk) 12:29, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  How about... 

message: Who added this part:
"Heesters lived in a house he was given by the Nazis – it was taken from a wealthy Jewish family whose possessions had been confiscated by the Nazi Regime. Heesters also corresponded with Goebbels, signing every letter with "Heil Hitler". On top of this he has been known to have funded the German war machine by donating money to the weapon industry. For this, Heesters has become a very controversial figure in the late 1970s. Heesters, however, has always denied these accusations despite the existence of proof."
I'm certain Heesters is some sort of crook and he's definitely not that well loved in the Netherlands (where I come from) but I've never read anything about this 'fact.' And someone who puts this in the lemma and states there is proof, should provide that proof. Because there is no citation whatsoever I think it should be removed very quickly. Guidje (talk) 08:28, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source? 

message: Heesters role under tha Nazis are not really known. The article a t the end sais, he was near to the Nazis. But theres nothing known by him, what's shown Sympathy for the NS-System. In 1938 he made a guest tour in the Netherlands - togesther with jewish musicans: "[... so etwas tut keiner, der von braunem Gedankengut beseelt ist. Und auch niemand, der in jener Zeit ausschließlich an seinen Aufstieg denkt.]" A bit more neutral would be good for the article. Also his Hitler-statment was much more problematic. So "funny" people told an old and at the end "not-so-fit-in-head" man what he should say. And after he had say this, they've played rebellion. Great theatre! Marcus Cyron (talk) 03:07, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: The introduction says he was a "controversial figure for his actions during the Second World War and his success in Nazi Germany". Yet there is pretty much nothing in the article to suggest controversy. What is controversial about being a successful actor in the 1930's? Do we describe actors who were active in the Soviet Union as being controversial?Royalcourtier (talk) 06:39, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The section on Nazi Germany was full of contradictions and confusions. At one point it said that he denied "visiting" concentration camps. In a previous sentence it is stated as a fact that he visited Dachau, and later it is said he admitted visiting it, but denied performing there. There was also the bizarre assertion that "he knew about" the existence of concentration camps. Well of course he did. The whole population of Nazi Germany and the world knew about the existence of concentration camps. They weren't a secret. It was death camps that were secret. The section also referred to Mr. "Jopie" (presumably his nickname) with no explanation, and to his role as "Danilo" with no explanation. I've tried to clarify the structure.  Paul B (talk) 21:46, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversial 

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