Talk:Lafcadio Hearn

message: This article claims to be drawn largely from the 11th edition of the Encyclopedia Brittanica, but includes only two citations.  These citations lead to 1) a dead link and 2) an archived link from an indeterminate source.  I don't know the guidelines that cover the use of material from a source in the public domain, but I'm certain that you can't 1) copy wholesale or 2) use that material without individual citation.  The article doesn't even have a "References" section beyond the aforementioned Encyclopedia Britannica.  Someone who knows something about this needs to fix it, because as it stands it's at best almost entirely unsourced and at worst plagiarism. Rem01 03:35, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: If he elected his name Lafcadio, how was he called before? -- Error
* Patrick according to some other sites on the web.--Malcohol 13:12, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: An old query deserving an answer: his legal name was Patrick Lafcadio Hearn.75.21.115.123 (talk) 08:00, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: It seems typical to ascribe a nationalities to people. In the case of Hearn, I think he is typically considered Irish (prior, of course, to his taking Japanese citizenship). --Malcohol 13:12, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Irish is certainly a valid description of his nationality and probably the best in the context of his upbringing and parentage, but during his lifetime he would have been British, inherited by Jus sanguinis through his father's British nationality, but also directly because he was born in the United States of the Ionian Islands, a British protectorate. He would have acquired Greek nationality through his mother also by Jus sanguinis.--DavidCane (talk) 22:32, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationality 

message: What happened to Mattie Foley, and Lafcadios's marriage with her? Did they divorce?
Or more likely, did it just sort of cease to be (annuled?) based on it being "illegal"?
And at what point?  Were his moves to Martinique and New Orleans in any way related to having a black wife?  Might she have been FROM either of those 2 places?
If this is all unknown, something to that effect should be mentioned.  I was kind of shocked when I got to the "...married Setsue" part!
66.3.106.4 (talk) 07:02, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  1st marriage 

message: Excellent article.  When I visited the Hearn Museum in Matsue in 1999 I noticed that they were playing a Loreena McKennitt CD in the background, presumably because she is Irish.  Thomas144 18:18, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: I'm starting a new heading to draw attention to this question already asked above.  What happened to Lafcadio's first marriage to Mattie Foley?  When he remarried had she died? Had they divorced? Was he a bigamist? Or was the first marriage anulled perhaps?
--El benito 16:22, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What happens in Japan, stays in Japan. ;)--KrossTalk 15:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marriages? 

message: In Greek, he's known as Λευκάδιος (standard spelling of nominative case form); maybe that should be put into the article... AnonMoos 02:04, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that should definitely be added.  Go ahead and put it in! MightyAtom 03:59, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Greek

message: I think it would be acceptably to add Lean Hearn to the legacy section. She is an author who's real name escapes me, but her pen name is after Patric Hearn. Just a suggestion
Lian Hearn sources Lafcadio Hearn as both an inspiration and as one of her primary references for her novels set in a fictional Japan, so I think it is appropriate to add her.Tathunen (talk) 20:59, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Lean Hearn

message: I'm not sure how many are awayre of the importance of this man in New Orleans history. I added a New Orleans subheading and an reference at the end that brings to light his contributions to Creole history, in specific creole cooking.Kcuello
 20:40, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Orleans 

message: Why does he go by Lafcadio Hearn, excising his first name, Patrick? And why doesn’t the article even mention this fact? —Frungi (talk) 08:03, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Patrick? 

message: Didn't I post a couple of queries here recently? About Hearn's blindness--which the article avoids--and about his true stature in Japan today? Did someone erase that or did I just forget to post? I hope someone can post an answer here. And shame on you if you did erase anything posted here.75.21.115.123 (talk) 14:40, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad memory needs assistance 

message: "In the late 19th century, Japan was still largely unknown and exotic to Westerners. However, with the introduction of Japanese aesthetics, particularly at the Paris Exposition Universelle of 1900, Japanese styles became fashionable in Western countries. Consequently, Hearn became known to the world by his writings concerning Japan. In later years, some critics would accuse Hearn of exoticizing Japan, but because he offered the West some of its first descriptions of pre-industrial and Meiji Era Japan, his work has historical value.[4]"
This statement feels very wrong.  Westerners?  Which ones?  Japanese styles?  This is an extensive generalization.  Japonisme and sterotypical Japanese aesthetics had been popular long before, since at least the 1870s, particularly in France.  Perhaps there was a resurgance?  Perhaps in the U.S.?  There must be room to make this more specific.  These types of generalizing statements about "us" consuming "them" from both the U.S. and Japanese sources are part of the narrative that enforces the exoticizing.  If you are a scholar who knows more about this can you help make this more specific?  The statement about offering the first descriptions of pre-industrial and Meiji Japan particularly seems wrong with the history of the Dutch at Dejima.  U of Iowa's library catalog lists no less than 15 accounts of Japan just from the 1850-1860.  Even Mark Twain wrote an account of travels to Japan before Hearn.  I don't know the details enough to make an accurate change, but I know this needs clarification.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2620:0:E50:1016:D42D:B876:26A9:88B7 (talk) 14:54, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Generalizations 

message: How does the statement '... he seems to have been called "Patrick Lefcadio Kassimati Charles Hearn" in English' square with the accompanying sourced note 'According to one of his biographers, a family Bible records 'Patricio Lafcadio Tessima Carlos Hearn, August 1850.' Kennard, Nina H. (1912). Lafcadio Hearn. New York: D. Appleton and Co.'? These are two different names, so the initial statement- viz. that a middle name was 'Kassimati' rather than 'Tessima'- appears to be unsupported by the Kennard source. Is 'Tessima' another form of 'Kassimati'? If so, this ought to be indicated.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.125.55 (talk) 22:42, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Full name/ different versions of his name 

message: https://www.gutenberg.org › files
The Project Gutenberg eBook of Concerning Lafcadio Hearn, by George M. Gould, M.D.
https://www.gutenberg.org/files/36783/36783-h/36783-h.htm
::<quote>His want of knowledge of the Latin language is deplored in his letters and, to the last, after a dozen or more years in Japan, his inability to read a Japanese newspaper or speak the language was a source of regret to himself, of errors too numerous to mention, and of grievous limitations in his work as an interpreter.</quote>
:I don't know if reliable source. Claims Hearn could not speak Japanese! "Okashii, ne...."
46.24.26.231 (talk) 21:08, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book about Hearn 

message: :
That timeline seems quite late. As our article on Japonisme explains, this began as early as 1858, inspired the artworld in the 1860s, came to the attention of the public in 1872, finally going visibly global by 1900. In other words, Japanese aesthetics became widely known and mainstream sometime before 1900. Viriditas (talk) 21:31, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline issues