Talk:BYU Jerusalem Center

message: removed sentence claiming death threats. No citation. citation provided was regarding an unrelated event  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.8.63.233 (talk) 19:53, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: controversy

message: I'm compiling a cited list here to be fleshed out: 
*R. J. Snow. 1998-2000 http://newnewsnet.byu.edu/story.cfm/56416 http://magazine.byu.edu/g/?act=view&a=129
*Truman G. Madsen 1991-1993 http://newnewsnet.byu.edu/story.cfm/57903 http://magazine.byu.edu/?act=view&a=920
*David B. Galbraith 1987-1988 http://newsroom.byuh.edu/node/517
*S. Kent Brown 1993-1996 http://maxwellinstitute.byu.edu/ispartstaff/viewbio.php?whois=67 http://www.fairlds.org/Book_of_Mormon/Arabia_and_the_Book_of_Mormon.html
*Arnold H. Green 2000- http://magazine.byu.edu/g/?act=view&a=129
*Martin Hickman 1988- http://magazine.byu.edu/?act=view&a=905
-- Wrad (talk) 22:12, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool. I called BYU and they said James Kearl (citation needed) is the current director, although he is not on-site. --Eustress (talk) 22:31, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like his official title is "Assistant to the President for the Jerusalem Center" . Different from director of center, I guess? Wrad (talk) 22:45, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Directors of the Center 

message: "When the Church was negotiating with the Jewish officials regarding the purchase of land and the construction of the Jerusalem Center, one of the conditions for approval was that we would not proselytize citizens in Israel. Reportedly, after we had pledged acceptance of that condition, someone in Israel said to a member about the agreement, "But how do you stop the shining in your eyes? Every one of you has it" (in Cheryl Brown, "Bright Minds and Broken Hearts," Brigham Young University 1996­97 Speeches [Provo: BYU, 1997], 172). What a tremendous compliment to our students and members who are lighting candles--lights shining forth as righteous examples." http://speeches.byu.edu/reader/reader.php?id=511 A more detailed version of the story is here.
This is one of the more famous stories about the Center within the LDS Church, but I don't know where to put it quite yet. Wrad (talk) 19:29, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe this type of stuff could go in some kind of "Legend" or "Legacy" section? --Eustress (talk) 19:44, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, we need a section that briefly summarizes the LDS view of Jerusalem and ties that into the Center as a spiritually significant place to Latter-day Saints. Wrad (talk) 19:53, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  shining eyes 

message: I think we're about ready for GA, once the last few refs are fleshed out. Wrad (talk) 18:16, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Looks like it's already been nominated, but we should have plenty of time to resolve any issues before the article's reviewed.  I think the Mission section text regarding LDS beliefs could be better supported. Also, have you ever written an institution requesting permission to use pics? --Eustress (talk) 18:00, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've only ever written to individuals. Wrad (talk) 20:27, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA? 

message: I noticed that this article states that BYU is the largest private university, whereas if you go to the main BYU page it states that it is the second largest university.  It is a small difference but I thought I would point it out.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by BJSpack (talk • contribs) 21:12, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This article doesn't say that. It only says that it's the largest religious university in the US, not the largest private university. Wrad (talk) 15:34, 20 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small discrepancy 

message: The article states misleadingly that "The 1980s saw many other Christian groups vying for representation and space in the city." I suggest that this should read "The 1980s saw not only Mormons but many Christian groups vying...." Due attention to neutral viewpoint needs to be taken because Christians typically do not regard Mormons as Christian due to the Latter Day Saints belief in a "trinity" of three gods (as well as the prospect for Mormons to become gods) as opposed to the defining Christian belief in only one God in three persons. Mormons hold substantially different beliefs than Christianity. That is a relevant fact in this story, since Mormonism is another religion entering into the highly charged, fiercely contested land where Judaism, Christianity and Islam all make claims. Thus at least four religions see Jerusalem as a city holy to them. Elizdelphi (talk) 23:44, 18 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: First, new sections belong at the bottom (I moved it for you). Second, you say that "due attention to neutral viewpoint needs to be taken", but you seem to take a very POV stance, and go on to point out why Mormons are not Christian. Mormons consider themselves Christian. But this is the talk page and not the article space, so you can be as POV as you like here. That being said, I think your rewording is fairly NPOV and can be added to the article (I'll do it for you unless someone else beat me to it). But this is a fairly benign change. Next time you can be bold and go ahead and make such a minor change without discussion. — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 15:49, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: misleading grouping of Mormons with "other Christian groups"

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message: Technically, East Jerusalem is not in Israel. Change the location. This is important since there is controversy with the whole american institute normalizing the annexation of Jerusalem.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.203.194.36 (talk) 20:21, 16 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Israel vs East Jerusalem 

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message: Add 1986 Mordechai Ben David song "Jerusalem is not for sale" to the controversy section. The song is of one of the most famous and popular ultra-Orthodox singers and includes has a line saying "Jerusalem is not for sale! Voices crying, thundering throughout our cities. You better run for your life, back to Utah overnight, Before the mountaintop opens wide to swallow you inside."TabletMag article on the song is a good source for this. MidwoodMartin (talk) 22:19, 22 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: .  It's unclear how this relates to the section or why the lyrics need to be included.  Indeed, the article you mentioned merely uses this as a sort of teaser to introduce the topic, not really as anything that seems like it would add to the section if it were included. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 16:43, 24 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 22 October 2019 

message: I'm hoping to edit this page, which has not been updated since the style guide was updated in August 2018 regarding the name of the church that sponsors the BYU Jerusalem Center, which is referenced often in this article. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has requested the following: "While the term 'Mormon Church' has long been publicly applied to the Church as a nickname, it is not an authorized title, and the Church discourages its use. Thus, please avoid using the abbreviation 'LDS' or the nickname 'Mormon' as substitutes for the name of the Church, as in 'Mormon Church,' 'LDS Church,' or 'Church of the Latter-day Saints.'
I realize that the greater movement of churches and peoples related to it is still referenced by the name Mormon (as in terms like "Mormon studies") and I will of course be level-headed and tasteful with any style edits that I am allowed to make, and request any authorized user to do the same.
: . While this is a valid request, Wikipedia has its own Manuel of Style, which is the way that articles are written here. In accordance with the part of the Manuel of Style in regard to the church, MOS:LDS, the use of LDS Church is an appropriate way to refer to the church, especially as it parallels what is found in many reliable sources. If you want to make a general request to change how to refer to the church here on Wikipedia, while it has been extensively discussed, the best place to do it would be on the Manuel of Style's talk page. All the best, Rollidan (talk) 00:34, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 3 Apr 2022 

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the coordinates just need to be moved to the bottom JD Cornbread (talk) 14:45, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Deltaspace42 (talk • contribs) 15:12, 20 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 20 December 2023