Talk:Cuisine of the Southern United States

message: Wow things are starting to come together, huh!  I was looking at the japanese cuisine article and they had a list of traditional dishes.  I didn't like the list before but what about putting one in?  I am going to add one in a minute, see what you think.  Kayellen 21:02, 6 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: food list

message: I'm not a native, but I like pie. What is shoo fly pie? Maurreen 03:32, 15 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Pie

message: The page lists the most important influences on Southern cuisine... What about the English? The settlers of the South were English protestants, and up to the Civil War era immigration to the South was very minimal, meaning that the white population is or at least was predominantly Anglo-Saxon. Surely they, as the base population, must have had the largest influence of any group? PAdutch 06:08, 28 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about the English? 

message: Hi there. I'm very new to Wikipedia and am looking for a place I can contribute.  Since I've lived all my 50 years in the "Deep South" and have a great interest in the varied cuisines, I think I may be able to contribute to this article.  I do question some of the statements in the third paragraph regarding the origins of deep fat frying and would like to research that some more.  Also, food preservation methods play a large role in the development of regional Southern cuisines.  
Could I have a go at further developing this topic?  I'm unsure exactly how to begin and don't want to risk stepping on toes my first try.  Thanks for any feedback. 
NanaLana 20:25, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New to Wikipedia 

message: Yeah, I'm new myself so I don't know the proper place to post this. So here goes.
I believe that the article contains two errors:
"Canning included green beans (half-runners, snaps) as well as shelly beans (green beans that were more mature and had ripe beans along with the green husks)"
1.) Half-runners are a variety of beans, but snaps are not.
2.) Shelly beans are not "green beans that are more mature and have ripe beans along with the green husks". Also, I have never heard anyone call them "shelly beans". They are called "shellies".
When green beans are harvested, some are shelled, and some are not. The less mature beans are broken ("snapped") into sections a little less than an inch long prior to cooking. They are not shelled.
The shells of the more mature beans are too tough to be palatable, so those beans are shelled (instead of being snapped). That's why they are called "shellies" -- because they are shelled.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.235.37.151 (talk) 05:53, 28 November 2009 (UTC)
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message: According to new policy approved by Wikipedia:WikiProject U.S. regions this page should be moved to Cuisine of the Southern United States, its main article has already been moved to its new title. Thanks. -JCarriker 12:34, May 17, 2005 (UTC)
:Go ahead. Actually this was discussed before but no one got around to doing the change. --Dmcdevit 23:14, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Move 

message: I'm not sure I understand the motivations behind removing the blurb about soul food in this latest edit. I suppose I could see how it might offend a sensitive individual, but it definitely goes along with my observations growing up in rural North Carolina. --MalkavianX 19:41, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I took out one sentence that was misplaced in a paragraph about regional differences.  The topic is fully covered in its own subsection. I certainly did not remove anything to avoid offending someone.  However, this article is not of good quality overall, is poorly referenced, and full of opinion. -THB 21:35, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Soul Food?

message: Under section 2.1.1, "Cajun Cuisine", you should mention the 'boudin' sausage.  When you cook gumbo you often take a cooked boudin (or 'boudain') and slice it into chunks into the stew, slicing on the bias (this exposes more meat surface area to the rich flavors of the gumbo).  
Good hot gumbo, nice chunks of boudin, your Abita Amber on the side and foot-stompin' Zydeco music ---- what more is there to life, n'est-ce pas?
In another Cajun dish called "red-beans-n-rice", sliced boudin is also added and you have a very nice spicy dish with a hearty meat base.  I'm getting hungry just thinking about it!
The boudin is another import from New Brunswick's "Acadian" region.  It is a sausage that goes back 200 years in the Canadian Maritimes.  A variation involves adding cow's blood (like the British "blood pudding"), but that is not the true boudin.
Can anybody add a sentence or two on this?
--Atikokan (talk) 05:31, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boudin 

message: Don't get me wrong I love Southern food and love to deep fry and use real butter (Margarine is blasphemy) but it almost goes without saying such food is generally pretty high in fat and cholesterol and so it might be nice to discuss the health implications of Southern food in a section.  The south is usually associated with some of the highest obesity rates in the country so I believe it to relevant.  Still we are all going to die sometime might as well enjoy some good food along the way.
24.56.37.14 (talk) 04:30, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correlation to Obesity? 

message: I have never seen it happen. 84.23.155.84 (talk) 19:51, 19 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced material may be challenged and removed 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: As of the May 30, 2017, the first sentence of the fourth paragraph of the section titled Traditional Southern Dishes reads as follows:
: "Southern meals, especially among the poor of both races (and historically among slaves), sometimes consist only of vegetables, with a little meat (especially salt pork) used in cooking but with no meat dish served."
There is no previous mention of which two races the author is referring to, nor are there citations to support any of the assertions made in the sentence. If the author is implying that the population of the South consists of only two ethnic groups (presumably "black" and "white") and referring to the poor of both groups (i.e., all groups), then why mention race at all? Instead of saying "among the poor of both races", why not just say "among the poor"? Also, I think it's fair to assume that slaves were, by definition, already included amongst "the poor". I suggest the following edit:
: "Southern meals, especially among the poor of both races (and historically among slaves), sometimes consist only of vegetables, with a little meat (especially salt pork) used in cooking but with no meat dish served."
Feedback?
Metrowestjp (talk) 16:22, 30 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: After almost two months with no feedback, I'm going ahead and making the change. Metrowestjp (talk) 18:04, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Notice the article is tagged that additional sources are needed for verification. An edit based on a string of suppositions is no reason mprovement—citations to WP:RS are required. I've edited to reduce the the unsupported assertions, and will try to do some rewriting, adding citations as necessary. Southern cuisine is inextricably bound up with slavery, yet the article hardly mentions its role. Neonorange (talk) 04:26, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Both races? 

message: Cuisine of the Southern United States has a history of collecting WP:OR and bad citations (Google Books snippets and refs that fail to support the text—either ab initio or through textural changes made without checking that the refs are sill adequate). I've taken a quick look at three sections—1.1 Barbecue, 3.1 Louisiana Creole cuisine, and 3.2 Lowcountry cuisine. The barbecue section mentions only one type, mayonaise-based white sauce on smoked chicken in Alabama. The Creole cuisine section is unreffed. The Lowcountry section is OR. I tagged and modified the latter two sections, but the barbecue section is hopelessly sparse.
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A thorough cleanup is required. I am too hungry to do more tonight. — Neonorange (Phil) 04:56, 12 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  B-class article? 

message: It's just bad food from other places with mayo slopped over it 94.193.249.13 (talk) 10:46, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Really though...