Talk:Elric of Melniboné

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thread_title: Merge discussion for [[Elric of Melniboné ]]

message: Didn't see much about the actual character Elric or his adventures in this article... Ideally, it should be about him, right?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.182.170.179 (talk) 05:20, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the rumor. ;) - Arcayne (cast a spell) 15:49, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  So about the actual guy 

message: I've done some work on the article, sorting the sections so as to remove a lot of the in-universe cruftiness of the article. I've also added in a section about the fictional character history; please feel free to revise or edit, so long as citations from reliable sources are added. 
Some sources:
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*2 - not the best of sources, as it contains evaluations by someone who might not be notable enough for inclusion.
Of course, more sources, specifically those speaking of Elric as a construct of Moorcock, would be especially useful. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 18:45, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup, sources 

message: Do I remember right that Yyrkoon is Cymoril's brother? —Tamfang (talk) 09:16, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, and both are Elric's cousins. Yrkoon is heir to the Ruby Throne. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 11:45, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, that much is in the article already. —Tamfang (talk) 18:00, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What would be excellent to add is how Moorcock developed out his plotline and developed the character relationships. It must be somewhere, since Mike is something of an interview machine. :) - Arcayne (cast a spell) 18:09, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually think the character could probably be broken out from the book series, and doing so would allow both articles to improve. Jclemens (talk) 18:12, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  family rivalry 

message: I've grown up reading and re-reading Michael Moorcock's Elric Saga and all related materials since I was just eleven years old, and I've always loved it. I think that the article is decent, but I noticed a couple things that could be added or modified. I don't think there is enough information about Elric himself, as in, the actual character and personality. Also, does anyone else think that adding brief synopses of each book would be too much? Just wondering. Lyrical Israfel (talk) 20:20, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Looks like a little more information is needed

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message: * Cymoril: A Melnibonéan, Elric's cousin and consort. He (Elric) hopes to one day make her his wife and empress.
* Yyrkoon: Prince of Melniboné, Elric's cousin. He is next in line for the throne.... secretly plots Elric's demise. 
As further evidence of his decadent ways, he openly desires his sister Cymoril and intends to make her his wife and Empress 
Somehow Elric's wanting the same with her is not "decadent ways",  go figure...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.115.60.63 (talk) 12:29, 8 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Those two "siscon"-ning princes. 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Are the 'Appearances in other media' and 'References in popular culture' sections both needed? There seems to be some scope for confusing overlap here. JezGrove (talk) 22:53, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overlapping sections? 

message: So there is this statement:
The Witcher series' main character, Geralt of Rivia is nicknamed the White Wolf; the character also shares a number of features with Elric, including appearance (Geralt is also an albino), skills and character traits (both characters often act as anti-heroes, both extensively use potions). While some argue this is 'homage', author Andrzej Sapkowski's refusal to acknowledge the inspiration has been taken by some (including Moorcock) to be an act of plagiarism.[28]
The source given is a guy on youtube stating basically what's said here. But he does not provide any evidence for his words, particularly that Moorcock considers this to be plagiarism. I wasn't able to find any Moorcock statements on The Witcher either. Anyone can make a youtube video and claim all sorts of things, it's not a reliable source. What this source is good for at best, is a statement that "A guy named Razorfist on his youtube channel said he considers Witcher novels to be plagiarism of Elric novels" or something along these lines. But if you state it this way - the correct way - I suppose one can question whether one guy with youtube channel is even notable enough to be mentioned at all. --Nomad (talk) 13:51, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: For the record, the first book in the series was translated into Polish in 1985 () so it is possible Sapkowski read it. But the rest of the series was not translated into Polish until 1994 (based on the dates at ). Sapkowski wrote his short stories in the late 1980s / early 1990s, with the first debuting in 1986, and published Blood  of the Elves in 1994. I am unsure how fluent he was in English back then, although he worked in the international trade and does know English and several other languages, so the odds are he did know it back then. Whether he was familiar with the series, shrug - some journalist should ask. Until we have reliable sources, it's all speculation. (Also, what is inspiration and what is plagiarism is best left to literary scholars). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:49, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sapkowski / Geralt of Rivia 

message: In light of the Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Heechee which ended up with the Heechee article rewritten from being about fictional race to that about a book series, as well as Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stormbringer, which seems to be about to end as a keep, should this be rewritten into a series article, or should the series information be split into a stand-alone article, with this remaining dedicated to the character? If the latter, this needs reliable sources about the character's importance, not just plot summary and trivia about publication history and unsourced inspirations. See Stormbringer#Analysis for how an encyclopedic section about a fictional character, provin their notability (significance, etc.) should look. Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 11:53, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this be rewritten into an article about the "Eric series"?