Talk:Shoulder (road)

message: Why is a hard shoulder called a hard shoulder?  I understand that hard describes the surface but where does the shoulder part of the name come from? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.139.36.13 (talk) 15:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think "hard shoulder" is chiefly a British term, to distinguish it from a gravel or dirt "soft shoulder."  A "hard shoulder" is what Americans usually call a "paved shoulder."  The "shoulders" of many things refer to the edges of them; see definitions 7 & 8 in this dictionary.  NCdave (talk) 15:01, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where does its name come from? 

message: Why no discussion of the use of shoudlers by cyclists and horse-drawn vehicles, and by pedestrians in places without sidewalks? --Triskele Jim (talk) 17:37, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other road users? 

message: User Teeraised (who no longer exists) added this sentence to the United States section: "Normally one is not allowed to drive on the shoulder but in the case of traffic block, use of the shoulder is allowed for the purpose of reaching an exit if the exit is with 200 feet."
Does anyone have a reference for this?  The practice it describes is common, but I suspect that such an explicit rule, if it really exists, may vary from one State to another.  I find no reference to such a rule in NC's statutes. NCdave (talk) 14:49, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  driving on the shoulder in the USA 

message: In European countries (Germany, Austria and Switzerland) emergency vehicles such as ambulances, fire trucks & police cars may use not only the shoulder(s) to bypass traffic congestion. There it is obligatory, to form an emergency corridor  between the leftmost and the other lanes 
The signs shown on the photograph next to the "France" paragraph have nothing to do with the road shoulder. They tell drives in the travel lanes to check the distance between themselves and the vehicle in front of them.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:8805:3B00:5A4:F93F:3FF1:FBD:2E5C (talk) 13:53, 4 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It is explained in the text, and refers to the broken white line on the edge of the hard shoulder in the photo. It is fine imho. -Roxy, the PROD. . wooF 07:58, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternatives 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved (non-admin closure)  microbiologyMarcus [petri dish·growths] 01:07, 25 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Shoulder (road) →  – natural disambiguation WP:NATDAB. There is a reason why sidewalk is not titled pavement because that term can also mean the road surface. Similarly, elevator is not titled lift because that also has another meaning. So why isn;t it the case here? Yes the term is British but that doesn't require disambiguation, but shoulder does as that commonly refers to the body part. It is also permitted to switch between English varieties if 'the change reduces ambiguity', as shown at WP:RETAIN. This article has no (strong) ties to any English speaking land and since no ENGVAR is established, if this move is successful, then British English should be established for this article. JuniperChill (talk) 17:39, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Oppose this article isn't and shouldn't be just about 'hard' ie. paved shoulders—blindlynx 18:18, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Comment – What about road shoulder? JohnCWiesenthal (talk) 03:54, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 17 April 2024