Talk:Timeline of early HIV/AIDS cases

message: The first section states that HIV-1 jumped to humans around 1908, and the second section states that it was in the 1930s. My guess is that the 1908 figure is correct, as the reference is from a peer-reviewed article in 2008 as opposed to a pop-sci article from 2006.GBMorris (talk) 01:07, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Timeline Inconsistency

message: Are there any evidence that Gaetan Dugas refused to have protected sex after being diagnose as hiv-positive and that some of his partners actively wanted to get what he called 'gay-cancer'?
: I think that altough he was "patient zero" to mostly AIDS cases in America's major cities, he wasn't "patient zero" to the whole world as a few other cases existed previously.
: Dugas really had sex with the intention of harming other people? Dugas had no scientific background and, probably, did not know that his disease was a STD nor that it leads to death. This was the dawn of the AIDS age and just a few scientists thought about a relation between HIV, sex and death.
: We're in need of reference to the claims that Dugas intended to infect other people and that he refused to have protected sex after diagnosed with HIV. He appear to be a simply scapegoat without the proper references. --Δ Mr. Nighttime Δ (talk) 19:28, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: patient zero

message: Shouldn't this just be combined with Timeline of AIDS? Uucp 02:20, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge?

message: By whom and on what grounds was Sadayo (nee Nagano) Fujisawa removed from the history of suspected and confirmed early cases of AIDS? The same journals and sources list her that list Richard Edwin Graves and Ardouin Antonio. I am the one who found all their names, as well as Arne Vidar Roed. Why is she singled out and erased from this article? Daviddaniel37 (talk) 00:50, 3 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Sadayo Fujisawa

message: 90% of the information about the Arvid Noe and Herbert Heinrich cases comes from controversial journalist Edward Hooper's book The River. I have strong doubts about the accuracy of his allegations. In addition, there seems to be no violinist named "Herbert Heinrich". Please check the talk page for Arvid Noe for more info. --91.7.88.114 (talk) 13:23, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that there seem to be no references to Noe or Heinrich outside Hooper's claims. Such early AIDS cases should be referenced by somebody else in the medical literature, but there don't seem to be any such references. Heinrich, the "famous" German violinist seems to have been so famous that there are no references to him anywhere on the web as a violinist, except in relation to this claim regarding AIDS, all of which seem to source back to Hooper. These cases look very questionable indeed.82.71.30.178 (talk) 00:58, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Disputed

message: I propose renaming this article Early AIDS cases, since its format is completely different from the numerous early AIDS cases listed iin Timeline of AIDS. This article ony lists a very few cases, and it is in more of an article format than a timeline (bulleted) format. What about a rename? There keep being request to merge it into the actual Timeline article, but it's not in a timeline format. I think a rename is necessary in order to justify its existence. Softlavender (talk) 01:31, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename proposed 

message: Though the title of this article is "Timeline of early AIDS cases," it is really a timeline of early AIDS deaths, since the cases are listed chronologically by year of death. The criterion for inclusion in this list is that the person's death occurred before June 18, 1981. Therefore, Gaetan Dugas does not belong on this list. Dugas died on March 30, 1984. It's unclear why he is listed under the year 1980. While Dugas is infamous for being linked to many early AIDS cases, he wasn't an early AIDS death. Rhino79 (talk) 14:10, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chronology by date of death and Gaëtan Dugas 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Timeline of AIDS which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 09:28, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: I've tagged Sadayo Fujisawa as original research. While we do have sources describing her disease and symptoms, I have not been able to find anything associating her disease with AIDS that didn't come from Wikipedia. I would appreciate if someone know of any sources that make this connection. Oiyarbepsy (talk) 06:40, 26 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: She is listed as Sadayo F. in Edwin Hooper's The River. and H. Hamper, Varaiants of Pneumocystic Pneumonia, J Bacteriol, 1957, 74, 353-356; I spoke to Fergal Hill in 2013 and he informed me that a PCR in the late 1990s is not evidence of Sadayo not having AIDS. Not finding HIV is not the same as negative for HIV. He said he would love to do a PCR today. Daviddaniel37 (talk) 04:06, 9 October 2022 (UTC)

text: I am the one who found the full names of Sadayo F., Dick G. and Ardouin A. and unscrambled the anagram of Arne Vidar Roed. I take all this very seriously. Daviddaniel37 (talk) 04:07, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sadayo Fujisawa