Talk:Gilles Deleuze/Archive 1

message: This article is overloaded with jargon and needs pruning. Critical theory has a bad enough rep as an obscure field - (never mind that the reputation is usually restricted to those who rarely made an effort in the first place) - there's no need to pile it on with such vapid phrases as "an original philosophy rooted in internal difference". If you are keen to use terminology, explain the terms beforehand (try to explain or define rather than extoll, and rein in your loquacity for other venues); this article is meant to be a clear introduction to people with no exposure to philosophy. That's clearly possible when the articles on, say, higher maths are very accessible. Please don't generate another self-indulgent introduction written by an epigone, something several of the crit theory/ philosophy articles appear to be. -- Simonides 23:38, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Jargon

message: Out of curiosity, does anyone know how to pronunciate Deleuze's name (first and last)?  Thanks, --zenohockey 02:48, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I say Jeel Duh-luhze. Deleuze 21:29, 12 July 2005 (UTC)

text: The German page has a phonetic transcription: []. Maybe this should be included in the English article as well? --Harald Kliems 19:46, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Added.  Thanks to both of you!  --zenohockey 23:15, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: In Deleuze's "I Have Nothing to Admit", he says  
:And then, there was my meeting Felix Guattari, the way we got
:along and completed, depersonalized, singularized each other - in short
:how we loved.
Did Deleuze have a sexual relationship with Guattari?  Or is he talking of the Platonic variety?
--Knucmo2 18:45, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's safe to reference a quote from Fashionable Nonsense with a certain mathematician lurking on this page ;) ... it reminds me of Lacan's comparison of i to the "erectile organ."  In other words: I don't think so. --zenohockey 05:22, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

text: A reasonable idea for an academic article, but not a priority for Wikipedia.  (The recent translation of Guattari's working notes for AOE might help you identify the "non-Deleuze" Guattari.)  I have avoided the issue in this article by concentrating on Deleuze's solo work.  The Wiki articles on Guattari, Anti-Oedipus, and A Thousand Plateaus are fairly terrible.  I'd rather fix all of those first before splitting the very tangled hairs between FG and GD.  4.232.132.232 19:33, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guattari and Deleuze 

message: I think the former sounds better.  Does anyone disagree? (besides the anon who made this edit, as well as several extremely good ones&mdashl;would you like to defend 'works'?)  A pittance of a problem, to be sure, but I don't want to give the impression that I just capriciously reverted the title.  --zenohockey 03:52, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Life and work" or "Life and works" 

message: Does the article need more?  If so, what?
More detail on Metaphysics?
More on science and math? 
: Perhaps more on Deleuze and the interrelation of recent scientific research and philosophy (eg as developed by Manuel De Landa - although that might properly belong on the De Landa page, as the primary resource for this would be Intensive Science and Virtual Philosophy - maybe a more prominent link to De Landa / ISVP and a reworking of the ISVP page). 
Individual works?:
Anti-Oedipus (D's account of history and politics)
Logic of Sense (currently almost entirely unmentioned)
I suppose these could go on separate pages.
Additional topics?:
Phil. of lang.?  Account of pragmatics in 1000 Plat.
Phil. of art?  Cinema, Bacon books
271828182 18:55, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Next to expand? 

message: Does anyone want to put this up for peer review & such?  (We could use a public domain photo.)  After seeing the Kierkegaard entry as a featured article, I figure this is at least as good. 271828182 22:38, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mime: A seeming public domain (or fair use) image may be found here. Someone may try to upload it. 23:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review?