Wikipedia talk:Discussion Camp

message: * The Argument Sketch ?--Tony Sidaway 19:16, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Inspiration drawn from...

message: I love the idea of a debate camp, in particular having debaters switch sides.  Thanks for the notice on my talk page, I'm busy right now, but do hope to participate, as I know I could stand to learn a bit about civility on Wikipedia, and I think just learning how to present my ideas better would be a good first step towards avoiding conflicts.  I think Wikipedians agree with each other more often than they realize.  KP Botany 20:13, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great idea 

message: Hi, WAS. I thought I would rename this Section "Project Stuff" as a place where we could communicate about planning and constructing the project. OK with you?
I have sent private emails to a few persons asking if they would be interested in participating as Coaches. After a couple of days I thought I would post an announcement about the Project on the various Wikimedia Mailing Lists. Any thoughts?
Michael David 17:55, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good. I already posted at WP:AN. When you are ready, posting at one or more Community Portal pages might be useful. We just have to be careful not to cross the line into spamming. A slow trickle of mentions and links works better than an everywhere at once approach. Also you might see if editors at the Wikipedia Signpost want to write something up about it. I suggest a demonstration event with known names (eg Jimbo) holding a discussion. WAS 4.250 20:06, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good input, WAS. You know a lot more about the ins & outs of the mechanics of Wikimedia than I do, It's great to be working with you. Of the things you mentioned, the one I know least about is the Wikipedia Signpost. - Michael David 20:38, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Wikipedia Signpost WAS 4.250 22:42, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename this Section "Project Stuff"

message: People are allowed to create socks (sock-puppets, aliases) for non-abusive purposes. For example, I could create User:Discussion_account_for_talk_point WAS 4.250 and User:Discussion_account_against_talk_point WAS 4.250 or even User:Discussion_account_only_anon_0001 depending on the degree of protecting myself I thought I needed with regard to "opinions to be archived, and perhaps used against them, out of context". WAS 4.250 17:01, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Socks and self protection measures

message: In any one discussion arguing both sides is not a generally useful technique; but here, these will be two separate pretend-discussions; not a single pretend-discussion. The single discussion will be a meta real discussion about the pretend discussions. WAS 4.250 17:01, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarification of discussion v. debate

message: Quantity defines spamming. ("Spam, Spam, Spam, Spam, and eggs.") Post once somewhere, it can not be spamming. Post a thousand places, it is spamming regardless of content. Where the line is between one and 1000 depends on the target audience. For this crowd, that line tends to vary between 5 and 20 or so. Oh, and I was referring to posting on this wiki at a few of its pages at the portal I mentioned, not the mailing lists. WAS 4.250 17:01, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you see any problem with posting the Project announcement on the Mailing Lists? - Michael David 21:13, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: None whatsoever. WAS 4.250 21:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spamming

message: Hi WAS. I would like to put the Discussion Camp Project ON HOLD for a while. I am putting together a group to study, and present to, problems with the Wikipedia Project's Culture as a whole. Once we accomplish this, the Camp can serve as an effective tool to deal with the communication problems. - Michael David 14:16, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: PROJECT ON HOLD