Talk:Tamaskan Dog

message: This article was deleted, with an overwhelming majority of people deciding to delete it rather than keep it. Many state that it's an elaborate hoax; there is no Tamaskan breed; is there new evidence to warrent recreating this article? If not, I might suggest it be deleted again (as much as I'd like for there to actually be Tamaskan dogs, since I love wolves). Has anything changed since this articles deletion? 207.12.38.107 (talk) 13:58, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and it might be a good idea to dredge up the old deleted article (if possible), look at what was written on it, and incorporate that info into this new article. And guys, if I don't get a response in a reasonable time, I might contact a mod to put this article back up for voting. 207.12.38.107 (talk) 14:04, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

text: I think the article should be left up--Ltshears (talk) 00:05, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Validity 

message: The average life span is an estimate taking into account the average lifespan of the breeds used to make up the Tamaskans, all of which are about 14 - 15 years of age. We have so far had no Tamaskan die of old age, the oldest pure bred 1st generation Tamaskan is 7 years old. When we have more data we will obviously update this average if it needs to be done.--Exhaustfumes (talk) 19:08, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lifespan 

message: This is the link to the Tamaskan Dog Register Notice Board which states 'coming soon The Tamaskan Dog Club of Australia'
http://www.tamaskan-dog.com/Notice%20Board/notice-board.htm
This is a link to a list of breeders on the Tamaskan Dog Society of Great Britain website which lists a Australian breeders
http://www.tamaskan-dog.co.uk/Kennel%20Names/names.htm
This is a link to the forum where the Secretary of the Tamaskan Dog Register states the 'coming' of the Tamaskan Dog Club of Australia.
I can also supply the contact details of the lady who is starting up this club so please stop vandalising this article --Exhaustfumes (talk) 17:04, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tamaskan Dog Club of Australia 

message: I think that unless there are real comparative studies of this and other candidate breeds asserting that it has the most wolf-like morphology, the article would be more correct in stating that it's one of the dog breeds which resemble a wolf the most, without having recent wolf ancestry. Otherwise it's original research/unsupported claim. As far as I know, despite of the superficial looks, could be that another dog breed is actually more morphologically similar to the wolves, and yet, it could be as different in superficial appearance as the chow chow. As an analogy with more distant groups, think of ostriches and dinosaurs like ornithomimus and the like, and even crocodilians like effigia. They're all ostrich-like in their superficial looks, but morphologically they're in fact more similar to other theropod dinosaurs and crocodiles, respectively. --Extremophile (talk) 15:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  wolf resemblance/appearence rather than "morphology" 

message: just wondering if its possible for a Tamaskan Dog to have blue eyes  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bob1191811 (talk • contribs) 04:13, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  can a have blue eyes? 

message: Tamaskan Club of America
This Club is run by one kennel (despite a 'fake' link for another breeder, blustag, which is actually the kennel name of the founder of the real Tamaskan Dog), he is a commercial breeding kennels who breeds Tamaskan cross breeds and sells them for more than pure bred Tamaskan are worth.
He has been vandalising wikipedia under a few different names and trying to add a link to his fake club, which he has been accepting membership monies for.
Please do not be fooled, this is not a legitimate club, nor are his dogs pure bred Tamaskan.
According to his own website these dogs have timber wolf content and are a mix of different breeds to create what he calls Tamaskan wolfdogs. 
This breeder and this club have nothing to do with the real Tamaskan dog and links to this kennel or club should not be allowed to be included in the Tamaskan dog article. --Exhaustfumes (talk) 14:25, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tamaskan Club of America 

message: This website is a hoax / rumor spreading website designed to encourage people away from the Tamaskan and towards a new similar breed of dog being bred by the creator of this No-Wolf-Tamaskan-Fable-Website.
The response from the Tamaskan Dog Register can be seen here 
--Exhaustfumes (talk) 15:58, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  No-Wolf-Tamaskan-Fable Website 

message: We've got contradictory sources for the breed of Tuffy, NC State's new live mascot.
* NBC17.com, a local TV station, says he's "a German Shepherd-Husky mix."
* Gopack.com, the NC State athletics site, says he "is a Tasmaskan."
* WRAL.com, another local TV station, has no stories in their archive.
Until more sources corroborate the breed, I've removed him from the article. —C.Fred (talk) 18:22, 28 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I'm content to wait until a reliable source is published, rather than conduct original research of my own. —C.Fred (talk) 13:33, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tuffy's breed 

message: I've removed the recent addition to the Famous Dogs section of a news story involving the alleged poisoning of some dogs.  These dogs are not famous, so I do not see the relevance of this event in relation to this article or the section.   The content also suggested the the police had a definite line of criminal investigation under way, something that none of the sources say.  Indeed, most of the sources make it clear that the poisoning is alleged at this point, and not a definite crime.  It's definitely not Wikipedia's place to even suggest otherwise.  
The only way this story could be relevant to the article would be if sources make clear that the dogs' breed directly played a role in events.  I don't see anything like this in the sources provided. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 11:54, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I completely agree. PedanticSophist (talk) 05:30, 2 May 2011 (UTC)

text: Notability is not inherited.  Wikipedia does not report on criminal investigations without reliable sources.  Your theories and speculations are also not suitable content. --Escape Orbit (Talk) 15:49, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alleged Poisoning 

message: Ok, I'm Finnish, and the Finns tend to be vocal of their original dog breeds. This article (and many of its sources) claim in passing that this breed originated from Finland. However I haven't heard of it before. The most elaborate explanation I've found () explains it this way: the foundation stock consisted of roughly half of Finnish dogs of varying pedigrees with a considerable number of UK dogs.
The Internet doesn't seem fo have anything in Finnish on them, only a forum post that goes like "so what is this Tamaskan thingy? The Enligh Wikipedia says it's a Finnish breed but I guess it's really rare here [in Finland]" and a handful of godawful auto-translated pages on godawful 100% auto-translated sited.
So how exactly is this breed of Finnish origin? Nothing I've read about them includes anything about the Finnish national kennel club so is this a backyard project gone wild? Pitke (talk) 08:39, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems to me from reading histories of other dog breeds, the nationality of a dog is determined not from where the ancestors came from but from where they were created and initially bred. It sounds in this case that they are of British origin as it seems the original breeding societies were British. It seems dubious to me for them to be called a Finnish breed. PedanticSophist (talk) 20:06, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finnish? Umm... 

message: I believe the following should be added to the page for clarification:
1) Mention that Tamskan Dogs are not currently recognized by any kennel clubs.  This will allow for continual updates on the stus of the breed with the AKC, UK Kennel Club, etc.
2) No mention of Czechoslovakian Wolfdogs are mentioned as dogs involved in the breeding program.  This should be corrected.
3) The dreaded AATU word & TBA.  Mention of the split between the TBA and TDR should be made in the history section.  Slander should be avoided.  Just attribute it to differences in breed direction and leave it at that.
Tmcook (talk) 17:43, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarifiations and History 

message: As a concern was raised during AfD about the quality of the references, I am going to mark all references to the Tamaskan Dog Registry and any references directly affiliated with that cite as dubious, pending removal - they should all be removed. It would stop this ridiculous edit war; these references are also considered unreliable, because as far as I understand the consensus is that breed clubs are only recognized as a reliable source if they are recognized by a larger governing body (ARBC, AKC, KC, what have you). I removed them once but another editor replaced them, which is fine - I'd just like to put my concerns out there.--TKK bark ! 22:10, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with the dubious tag. I do support a tag noting that the source may not be reliable. —C.Fred (talk) 02:52, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I updated the media reference links from the "registration required" links to the "public access" links so that everyone can access and read the magazine articles without having to register and sign-in on the forum. Sylvaen (talk) 18:26, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool, that helps quite a bit actually.--TKK bark ! 22:02, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

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message: Article titled "Tamaskan Dog", but starts with "Tamaskan dogs are" and top image captioned "A Tamaskan dog". Should this article be moved to "Tamaskan dog" (lowercase d)? (Similar to Fraser's dolphin, Grizzly bear, Barak hound, etc.) --EarthFurst (talk) 09:22, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dog or dog? 

message: The Tamaskan Dog is a distinct breed which is recognized by the American Rare Breed Association.
Specifically, they're under Group 5 on ARBA"s website: https://www.arba.org/Pages/gallery-group-5-breeds.htm
And here is the breed standard, also on ARBA's website: http://arba.org/PDF%20Files/Group%20Five/Tamaskan%20Dog%20Breed%20Standard.pdf
Wouldn't this fit the requirements for the Tamaskan Dog to be moved back to its own article?
(copied from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Northern_Inuit_Dog#Undo_merger_from_Tamaskan_Dog)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Noxypaws (talk • contribs) 19:21, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undo merger from Northern Inuit 

message: Discussion: Tamaskan is a recognised breed, Northern Inuit is not recognised even though it has memorable inclusions in popular culture. 
If you intend to redirect "Northern Inuit" to Tamaskan, are you likely to give it a separate entry / dedicated paragraph within the Tamaskan entry? 
Or are they one and the same? 2405:6E00:11AA:1000:578:D8EB:E8C6:4F4E (talk) 13:59, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: https://dogtime.com/dog-breeds/northern-inuit-dog 2405:6E00:11AA:1000:578:D8EB:E8C6:4F4E (talk) 14:05, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

text: http://nisociety.com/ 2405:6E00:11AA:1000:578:D8EB:E8C6:4F4E (talk) 14:08, 8 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Recognised by whom? Breeds that are recognised as different by some organisations but otherwise are very similar sometimes have a shared article. Traumnovelle (talk) 18:42, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do not merge Northern Inuit to this breed