Talk:List of Princeton University people

message: How about a category for education / academics -- i.e. as a career path.--Rbeas 01:57, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: 4.228.90.86 02:42, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Education or academics

message: Removed what appears to be a vanity entry, as I cannot find any other information on the individual (no biography or web page at Columbia University).  The "ecology" stuff is apparently a  reference to his undergraduate thesis, but cannot find any confirmation of its  effect on academia. Removed entry is as follows:
*Thomas Francis Diaz M.D 1999 - Won the medical spelling bee in Jackson New Jersey at the age of 13, went on to valedictorian at Jackson High School, attended princeton university where he revolutionized ideas in ecology.  Dr. Diaz is now a professor of Medicine at Columbia university and has developed several cutting edge ideas behind the treatment of heart failure.
:4.228.213.229 02:14, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Vanity entry #2

message: Is a Princeton alumnus, but I am not sure what the correct style is for the degree he received, or where he should be placed.  I'll let you tigers take care of adding him to the list wherever he belongs.  Cornell Rockey 04:41, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Glen Edwards (pilot)]] 

message: Shouldn't there be more Princeton alumni that distinguished themselves in the military? I added a Medal of Honor winner to the "Other" section --A. B.  18:07, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Military ?

message: In lieu of the refs required for redlinks by WP:LISTPEOPLE, there are a few sections that have lead-ins that say that the people can be found at source x.  That doesn't work; we really need refs, as the guideline calls for, after each entry to which it applies.  The reason, beyond the "that is what the rule says" rationale, is that otherwise any Joe Jokester can add their name to the list.  Since the person who wrote "the following entries can be found in ..." has no control over what the following entries are, that won't suffice.  Tx.--Epeefleche (talk) 23:55, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refs 

message: The head says that alumni who have served as professors at Princeton are listed in bold. This standard does not seem to have been applied evenly throughout the article. In Supreme Court Justices, for example, the three currently serving justices are bolded. Maybe they taught at Princeton at some point, but where is the source? Ditto for Donald Rumsfeld in the following section.
While we're on the subject, is "this alum taught at Princeton once" the best use for boldface? Lagrange613 (talk) 19:10, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boldface 

message: After spending a while fiddling with this list I've come up with some ideas for reorganizing it.
#The "Notable Princeton professors" supersection should be integrated into the rest of the article, mostly into the Academia section. Faculty who are not alumni will be noted as such.
#The "Economics" section is redundant. Policy leaders should be in Government, law and public policy; professors should be in Academia; and business leaders should be in Business.
#The "Science and technology" section should be reserved for people who have made significant contributions outside academia. I'm looking mostly at the "Mathematics and physics" subsection, the vast majority of which should be integrated into Academia.
#Taken together, the above items call for a major expansion of the Academia section. Split it into subsections by field.
#Many of the Pulitzer Prize winners are journalists or historians, so the subsection's inclusion under Literature is dubious.
#The "Fictional" section makes me nervous. For an easy if crude means of comparison I looked at the corresponding lists for the other Ivies. The lists for Brown, Cornell, Dartmouth, and and Yale have fictional characters, while those for Harvard and UPenn do not. Columbia's list has three fictional characters. Dartmouth's list had only five at the time of its FL promotion. In short, there doesn't seem to be a common standard. My instinct is to severely curtail the "Fictional" section, as it lists characters rather than people.
#The size of the markup has increased more than 50% since I've started expanding and wikitablifying "Government, law and public policy". If the trend continues we should discuss splitting the list.
I'm planning to do all of this boldly, roughly in the order listed, unless someone objects. I'm entirely open to discussion and feedback on these proposals and would appreciate any suggestions for doing it better. Lagrange613 (talk) 05:33, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Vsevolod4 wrote over at my talk that the rest of the list should go into wikitables, the faculty and students are separated in some places but not others, and there's lots of double-listing of Pulitzer Prize winners. I agree on wikitablification. Princeton tends to consider faculty and students both as "Princetonians", so I think faculty and students should be commingled throughout. (Many members of the list are both.) I also think we should scrap the "Pulitzer Prize winners" subsection, integrate its members into sections where they belong, and note in those listings that they have Pulitzer Prizes. More generally double-listing should be avoided unless the person is actually notable in two fields, like Woodrow Wilson and Bill Bradley. Lagrange613 23:02, 16 December 2011 (UTC)

text: Also I'd like to introduce into this article the "affiliation codes" used in List of Princeton University people (politics and government). What do people think? Lagrange613 06:50, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorganization 

message: I expanded his name to "John C. Bogle" because the commonest presentations of his name are "John C. Bogle" and "Jack Bogle." In particular, "John C. Bogle" is how his name is appears in books he's authored, and how he styles it in his own block, http://johncbogle.com/. I see that the article is under "John Bogle" with a redirect from "John C. Bogle" and I think that's inappropriate, but will bring that up later.
I changed the description from "The Vanguard Group, which pioneered the retail mutual fund industry" to "The Vanguard Group, which pioneered the index fund." I would prefer not to bother with a citation for this right now, since this is a simple identifying entry. However, there were numerous other retail firms, operating at the time, including Massachusetts Investors' Trust (now known as MFS) and Fidelity. Fidelity had become a well-known mutual fund company before 1975. Gerry Tsai at Fidelity was an early "star manager." What Bogle and Vanguard did was to introduced the Vanguard Five Hundred Index Fund in 1976. It is debated whether this could be called the first index fund, because there were a couple of small experiment earlier, offered only to institutional investors, so some writers call it merely the "first retail index fund." Bogle himself bristles at that, because he thinks those earlier ones shouldn't count.Dpbsmith (talk) 22:58, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: John C. Bogle

message: The first line of the Academia section states that "Boldface indicates a current professor at Princeton." However, boldface is not actually used in the article. Should the line be taken out?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.211.200.96 (talk) 18:45, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boldface 

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message: Is there a good reason why John von Neumann ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_von_Neumann) is not on the faculty list? Possibly the most prolific mathemetician of the Twentieth Century and a fixture at Princeton.
Also, I might add an external reference to Nasar's biography of John Nash, "A Beautiful Mind", not simply because of it's portrait of Nash, but because the book provides an insightful history of Princeton's evolution from liberal arts seminary to the center of the mathematical and scientific world since about 1920. The book profiles many other Princeton alum including Milnor and Godel.
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message: "In fiction" is WP:trivial, and it may have to be removed from the page. Ber31 (talk) 16:22, 28 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I have moved Fictional Princeton University alumni to Princeton University in popular culture. Ber31 (talk) 18:28, 2 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  In fiction