Talk:Gakhars (Hindu)

message: Siddiqui Just as the deliberate obiliteration of the history of Siddiquis from India would be completely unjustified as for example the stellar contribution of the Muhajir Urdu community s contribution in the establishment of Pakistan  is being obiliterated... So is the case with the Hindu Gakhars or millions of others who are now living in India but belong to the area which now forms Pakistan.
As a Pakistani , you proclaim your own Indian and Arabic roots , and yet you steadfastly wish to deny the roots of others ?? Why ?
What is   a Pakistani surname ? please elucidate .
And by that same yardstick standard explain where Siddiqui   belong . ? 
Are you quite sure that there is not one single Hindu Gakhar left in Pakistan? 
I have made a separate page Gakhar   Hindus  in deference to the existing page that covers Muslim Gakhars of Pakistan ....and now you vandal this ....! 
You bandy your siddiqui lineage as if it were a caste , and you edit the lineage of others ?
Where do you belong ? Intothefire 13:47, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Siddiqui

message: I do not have any citations regarding Hindu Gakhars but I was known to a Hindu Gakhar family in Indian Punjab. They were very light-skinned, well-educated and spoke fluent Punjabi/Haryanvi. This testimony may not carry any weight as per Wikipedia rules but I would request the other editors not to dismiss the claim of Hindu Gakhars summarily. Sometimes citable information is missing about certain groups. In such circumstances it is better not to express strong affirmative or negative statements about a claim simply because the citable information does not exist. If this is allowed to happen then it is not fair to the certain subaltern narratives which are historically significant but  lie buried beneath of a heap of popular, and often ignorant, opinions and propaganda which often find entry into citable sources just as easily as the truthful accounts. While it is not the subject matter of an encyclopedia to be a forum for these suppressed narratives but keep in mind they belong to the groups which still exist in full blood, and they have a rightful voice in objecting to them. Maybe wikipedia's rules about biographies of 'living persons' could be invoked in these cases. Ethnic groups which still exist are nothing but a collection of 'living people' and maximal caution should be exercised when they are described in an encyclopedia, lest anything be written which might be deemed libelous by the members of that group. regards.--Internet Scholar (talk) 16:35, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: so...the Ghakkar Kayanis are Rajputs or where did they come from?/And ruled the area between the/Indus and Jhelum Rivers? 202.165.225.144 (talk) 19:48, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hindu Gakhars do exist 

message: Are their Sikh Gakhars?
122.163.204.38 (talk) 16:53, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sikh Gakhars 

message: The article seems to be mostly an exposition that could be covered at Gakhars. Sure, the community has two religions and there is a claim (unsourced) that post-partition they even split geographically, but the fact is that 90% of this article is just talking about the Islamic conversion ... and it is using really old primary sources to do so. I am tempted to propose a merger unless someone comes up with decent content and sources before too long. - Sitush (talk) 18:00, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Suggest you read up the discussion on this page and the Gakhar discussion page before acting in haste .Intothefire (talk) 18:55, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I did. Now, why does it exist? - Sitush (talk) 18:55, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:   :) 
Intothefire (talk) 19:08, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I would prefer a meaningful answer. - Sitush (talk) 18:43, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does this article exist? 

message: We seem to be quoting S. A. A. Rizvi in the "conversion to Islam" section but the citation appears to be for Arthur Basham's The Wonder That Is India. I thought I had a copy of that book but cannot find it. Can someone please clarify what is going on and improve the citation. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 02:05, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rizvi quote