Talk:Dave Bautista/Archive 3

message: The new picture (I didnt add it...) looks awful to me. Sorry, but I mean, you cant really SEE him 'cause of the lighting. No face or body really, just the belt and that's it.
Shouldnt we be able to, you know, see Batista?? --Cookie 02:08, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New picture...

message: Does anyone know what the original plans were for the Mark Henry/Melina/Batista sexual harassment storyline that had just started when Batista was injured and had to forfeit the title? And how much longer his title reign was planned to be? If so, should we add that to the article? Other Wiki articles break kayfabe with similar information...Gamer313 20:28, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say "not" since as it didn't happen it's only speculation. --Dave. 22:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  previously dropped storyline 

message: Think it's worth mentioning that Batista was with John Cena and Ashley Massaro for the Extreme Makeover: Home Edition this Sunday (January 14th)? I'm not sure if it's in the article yet--or even if it's worth adding. But he and the other 2 superstars who helped seemed really happy about helping the family out, so would it be a good add? --Cookie 05:07, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You do NOT have authority to say what people would enjoy reading. This is an objective encyclopedia, and his non-wrestling achievements (Since this is about HIM and not JUST his character), should be added. WiiAlbanyGirl 16:41, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Worth mentioning?

message: I mean, c'mon.  It's WrestleMania! Freddy Krueger 00:40, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't apply to the PPV articles since the guideline was created for wrestler articles, not the PPV articles. TJ Spyke 21:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is the WM match not worth noting? 

message: Is Dave a heel or a face right now? I have no clue.
And yes this does apply to the article because I was wondering...if he did turn heel at No Way Out, which I was unable to order, then should we put that in the article? I didnt see it there...is he still face? --67.185.26.89 06:49, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not a messageboard, but he is a face still (he explained why he spinebustered Undertaker on SD this week). TJ Spyke 23:48, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ahem. I said, "And yes this does apply to the article because I was wondering...if he did turn heel at No Way Out, which I was unable to order, then should we put that in the article?"
I was not using this as a message board. I was asking if he was heel or face and if it was worth adding to the article...=) --67.185.26.89 03:58, 6 March 2007 (UTC)

text: It doesn't apply to the article, despite you saying it does. TJ Spyke 21:24, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dude, you're being kind of rude.......IP#1 never said it applies to the article......67.185.182.69 08:37, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah I checked and um sorry IP person but there's no note ANYWHERE on the article as to whether Dave is a heel/face. If it wasnt there before, no sense in adding it now...~*~ 67.185.26.89 00:19, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I feel you are all very incorrect, especially in the above comment. One of the main problems with wrestling articles on Wiki is that there is no consensus to how these articles about these men and their characters should be written. I, however, do believe that, if he IS a heel or a face, that should be stated in the timeline of his events. I find this much more important than weekly events, and will determine the majority path of his character through his career. Just because it is not there, it means that it SHOULD be. Many other WWE articles have this indication. WiiAlbanyGirl 16:44, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Heel or face?

message: Dave lost the title to Mark "Undertaker" Calaway, people should be able to talk about recent happenings in his character Kane Freak8 03:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  --Yamla 18:52, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WrestleMania 23]] 

message: Update Now! --KingOfDX 06:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to try to do some research tonight, because I can edit this article. Since WM23 was over a month ago, this article REALLY needs to be updated to include that he lost the championship to undertaker. WiiAlbanyGirl 20:18, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update

message: Thought this should be added to the 2007 part on the page: http://www.24wrestling.com/index.php?id=news/8370 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lilwyte (talk • contribs) 22:56, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Backstage negativity towards Batista 

message: Can someone unlock this the date was posted when it would be unlocked for updates and the admin has failed to unlock it, not everyone is willing to vandalise this page have some trust in you fellow wikipedians and allow us to update it i mean wikipedia is here to allow others to edit aswell as long as it's constructive the Wrestlemania23 update and especially his title loss should of been allowed to be update almost a month ago now a month out of date isn't isn't that good for an online encylopedia eslcially when so many people are offering to update it for you :-) --User:Jonoridge 21:45, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  frequent Updates 

message: Can I put this image on his profile?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Batista-closeup.jpg
Clen_17 12:49, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since it's yours (as I can see from the licensing), I'm pretty sure you can. WiiAlbanyGirl 16:45, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: does anyone know anything about his first wife? when they got married/divorced etc??(217.44.69.15 20:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Batista's first wife 

message: What race is batista ?
It says it in the artcle. DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH but to answer the question he is part filippino and (I THINK) PART GREEKUrena198 20:14, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  what race is he? 

message: Why is Batista at 6'6? He isn't anywhere near that. Batista is more like 6'3-6'4ish.
:The height is based on what his WWE profile states, not what people assume. - Deep Shadow 22:28, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Height

message: Is his upcoming autobiography worth mentioning?  Jezebel Parks 22:43, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you know when? Is there a source? --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 23:31, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's coming out on October 17.  Someone mentioned it on a forum with a cover photo.  I don't know where it came from, but Amazon already has it up for preorder.  Jezebel Parks 21:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then it should be mentioned in the article, if it relates to him. --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 00:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Autobiography 

message: on the wwe rollin clip of him, he says he has a 14 year old daughter Athena and that he still loves his ex-wife Angie to death, is this worth mentioning?? (81.132.205.53 08:36, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  his family 

message: I was wondering if it should be included in the opening about Batista being the longest reigning World Heavyweight Champion.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by All about wrestling (talk • contribs) 22:30, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Opening

message: Batista is named "Most Overrated Wrestler of 2006" by WON. It is strange that you include his other WON titles, but ignore this one.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.87.110.62 (talk) 03:35, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Wrestling Observer

message: i was wondering if i could add an overflow for the reference list so that you can scroll down to find the references. Like the one in The Undertaker. (article in wikipedia check it out)
65.222.238.16 16:01, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Overflow

message: Ok, I think the little "estafista" thing under Nicknames is a little unnecessary. We call him LOTS of names in Spokane, but I dont see any of them listed. The internet people often call him "Roidtista" and I dont see THAT listed, either. I think listing the nickname his fans call him in South America or wherever is a little irrelevant. Does anyone agree?
Plus, the "Estafista" thing might've been vandalism in the first place.......hmm. 67.185.182.69 08:28, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Esta WHAT?

message: The beginning of the page reads this:  David Michael Bautista;ref name="official">About Batista at his official site</ref> (born January 18 1969), better known as Dave Batista or by the ring name Batista, is an American professional wrestler. Batista is currently signed to World Wrestling Entertainment wrestling on its SmackDown! brand. While in the WWE, Batista has been a 2 time World Heavyweight Champion, a 2 time World Tag Team Champion (with Ric Flair) and a 1 time  WWE Tag Team Champion (with Rey Mysterio). He also won  the Royal Rumble in 2005. His finishing move is the Batista Bomb.
However, considering the bits of his title reigns, Rumble win, and his finisher are already within the article in respective areas, do those really need to be in the beginning since it's repetitive, or is it for summarizing purposes? - Ken Xiraka 01:19, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's for summariazing purposes, as per Wikipedia:Lead. Davnel03 14:25, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, I might've known. Just making sure. Thanks. - Ken Xiraka 11:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

text: IMDb is wrong. -  Deep   Shadow  06:00, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page beginning info 

message: Despite my concerns over the page being semi-protected to avoid too much edit warring, and the note on the talk page, here are my review comments, against WP:GA criteria:
*Image in infobox has neither licence nor source information.
** - Image page was subject to vandalism.
*Why is his fourth ring name bold?  If it's the most significant one then put it at the top surely?
**
*Placement of ref [1] twice in opening sentence is awkward.
**
*The "In wrestling" section is strangely named, the whole article is primarily about his wrstling career.
**As per WP:PW, we tend to have move sections like this, see Triple H and John Cenas articles also for other examples this.
*Place citations in accordance with WP:CITE
**
*It would be appropriate to have a lead-in before the career section starts, perhaps describing his pre-wrestling-career life.
**I'll try to do that - is that needed though for GA?
*"Afa Anoai" or "Afa Anoa'i" - consistency needed.
**
*If he made his debut in 1997, why isn't this mentioned in the article, the first three years of his career is missing.
**I don't think he did much in this time - I'll try and find out though.
*"After this both partners started to argue over the weeks. Bautista eventually turned on D-Von." would be better as a single sentence.
**
*Wikilink full dates per WP:DATE.
** I think, there might be 1 or 2 I've missed.
*Avoid "didn't", use "did not" etc.
**
*2005 section is overly comprehensive and full of very short paragraphs, avoid WP:Recentism.
**There isn't much I can cut out - in years like 2003 and 2004 Batista wasn't a major part on TV and in 2006 he was injured for 1/2 a year, but in 2005 he was in it for the whole year, and was on TV playing a major role.
*"(These events were aired on the January 13, 2006 edition of SmackDown!.[46])" - why in parentheses?
** - removed line.
*Lists of signature moves and managers etc ought to be prose'd really, as should his impressive list of accomplishments.
**What do you mean by that?
*The Personal life section needs to be flowed better, it's basically a trivia list without the bullet points right now. Davnel03 18:04, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA review comments

message: In recent book previews released for his upcoming biography, they say that he is a GRANDFATHER, and that he does have 2 daughters. Just thought that was worth noting. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.32.228.251 (talk • contribs) 
It's worth noting and when the book is coming out is worth noting also.(MgTurtle 23:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  His Book 

message: According to this source, Batista is among 10 wrestlers suspended for violating the wellness policy http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2998062  Sherick 23:54, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Except that it doesn't say that. Jerk. Mshake3 23:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suspension 

message: Is this guy related in any way to Francisco 'Paco' Bautista?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.54.174.43 (talk) 01:46, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And tell me if he looks similar to Dave Bautista. I think he does O.o [Tyler] (talk/contribs) 09:21, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paco Bautista 

message: At spanish wikipedia?. --KingOfDX 08:50, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Batista Bomb pic

message: I'm confused... why shouldn't there ever be an article on his book? The Rypcord. 13:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because in the world of literature, it isn't notable. Nikki311 14:07, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not meant to be literature, and generally literature is fictional to begin with, its meant to be a detailed account of Batista's life and pro-wrestling. Thus making it notable 1)because it is a produced book, which there are a TON of on wikipedia with far less known authors and even more worthless "notability to literature", and 2)it is a celebrity autobiography. All of Mick Foley's have pages, Austin's as a page, Regal's as a page. The Rypcord. 14:28, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

text: While you bring up a fair point, Foley's books have pages because they all (IIRC) became New York Times Bestsellers. If Bautista's book does the same, an article would likely be created. As for Austin's and Regal's, I can't be sure. Gavyn Sykes 16:10, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So it needs to be a NYTimes bestseller? Ok. The Rypcord. 16:18, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, don't quote me on that. I'm speculating that Foley's books are notable due to that. Gavyn Sykes 16:35, 18 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Also, biographies and autobiographies are genres of literature. Just for the record...Stone Cold's book and Regal's book don't have pages...at least not that I could find. Nikki311 17:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  His Book 

message: OKay, maybe it's just me, but in the section on his family, it says that "by the age of 40" he had two grandchildren. That'd be just fine and dandy, except as far as I can see, if he was born in 1969, then he's 38 right now. Just my math. Cougar Draven 03:34, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It says "before" the age of forty. Gavyn Sykes 03:36, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Before the age of 40, Batista had already become a grandfather of two grandsons" implies that he is past that age. You want to fix it, or should I? Cougar Draven 03:39, 1 November 2007 (UTC)

text: He's 38, that's before the age of forty. There's nothing wrong with that statement. Gavyn Sykes 03:49, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Grammatically, that statememnt won't be correct until January of 2009. Cougar Draven 07:03, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age? 

message: It mentions that Batista gave Orton an electric chair. Was this a driver, drop or powerbomb? All three have electric chair versions and the wikilink redirects to a page with all of them listed. Gavyn Sykes 17:44, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless I'm extremely mistaken, the name "electric chair" by itself revers to the drop. Also, having seen the episode when it first aired, and watching it now on Youtube http://youtube.com/watch?v=rU74Mi8F1Pshttp://youtube.com/watch?v=RiH9o-VvJf0, it's an electric chair drop. Cougar Draven 16:17, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Electric chair"

message: Batista is definitely not 6'6!!! At WrestleMania 22, he stood next to Randy Orton and was at least an inch smaller than Randy Orton. Randy Orton is 6'4. So maybe you could change his height to 6'3. Because 6'6 looks stupid. Lee 22:57, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I also noticed this (don't think it was WrestleMania, though). But it's his billed height. Maybe Randy is really tall. JBL is billed at 6'6" aswell yet he seemed to tower over Batista in events leading to Cyber Sunday (when he got speared). --DlaeYou're quite the talker aren't you? 22:47, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Height

message: "Dave Bautista" and I are friends on FaceBook, but i'm pretty sure it isn't legit. any ideas? 
J.C. 07:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please, tell me you're joking... Also, if this "Dave" asks you to meet at the baseball park at 11pm, say no.DlaeYou're quite the talker aren't you? 22:48, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  bautista on facebook? 

message: Why is this name used as the article title? It is never used in the article, and it's neither his birth name, nickname or ring name. I submit that either David Bautista, Dave Batista, or Batista should be used.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kevinbrowning (talk • contribs) 00:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I hardly think that we should nitpick. Dave is a commmon nickname for David and Flair used to call Batista, "Big Dave." Gavyn Sykes 04:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Triple H called him "Dave". Eddie Guerrero called him "Bautista" (bow-teesta, sort of). I think the article should be his ring name (Dave Batista) or real name (David Bautista) - not a combination of both. --DlaeThe Freudian Slip 20:58, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dave Bautista. 

message: --12.208.66.189 (talk) 04:05, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's in Batista's BOOK! Perfectly sourced. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 04:55, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NO!What WHAT!

message: I just read the book "You can run, but you can't hide" by Duane Chapman alies Dog - The Bounty Hunter. On several pages he mentiones a friend he worked with named David Bautista. Is this the same Batista like here? Because I've never heard or read anything before that he had worked as a bail bonds man.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.171.53.168 (talk) 00:55, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Batista mentioned in Dog - The Bounty Hunter's Book? 

message: Can someone please change Batista's weight? He is weight currently billed at 317 lbs.  Jbritp (talk) 19:43, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We use the WWE.com source. If they don't change it, we don't, plain and simple. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 19:44, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Billed weight?

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gatling_gun has a picture of a Gatling gun and nobody would be able to lift that. Perhaps changing the reference to him firing an imaginery machine gun would be more accurate?
12:19, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Detailed imaginery information 

message: There is no current section. Bam123456789 (talk) 21:21, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current 

message: Is it true that Batista is dating Maria? http://www.whosdatedwho.com/celebrities/people/dating/maria-kanellis.htm  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.1.61.2 (talk) 20:30, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dating Maria? 

message: Can someone please remove the myspace link? 
It is not his myspace.  The only one he has is www.myspace.com/demonwrestling
Sleegee (talk) 02:11, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: Isn't Batista's finisher a snap sitout powerbomb and not just a sitout powerbomb? Because everytime I saw Batista do the Batista Bomb, it was real quick. As soon as the legs were on Batista's shoulders he dropped down.SimonKSK (talk) 12:55, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finisher?