Talk:Haptic technology

message: There doesnt seem to be a Wiki area for describing how Force Feedback works. Hopefully someone can shed some light on the subject with comparisons between previous attempts at FF. Please? :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.149.87.231 (talk • contribs) 22:19, 3 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technical details? 

message: Hey all, I was told that I was not allowed to add a link to Novint's homepage (despite being prominently featured in the Games section) because it was "commercial" while other commercial links exist on the link page. (Sensable, Force Dimension, etc..)  Anyone know what's up with that? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tz-Auber (talk • contribs) 06:24, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While you are entitled to your opinion with regard to the usefulness of the content and the application of Wikipedia's features, you should be aware that no actual policies or guidelines support those views. Reverting/undoing is simply a convenient way to return the article to a version that is believed (by the reverting editor) to be better, which is also a form of improvement and deserves the same amount of good faith as the act of adding the content in the first place. As for your specific claims regarding Novint or their products, the fact that you have personally been impressed does not meet WP:NPOV or WP:OR, and your invitation for me to try it myself would similarly fail those standards, regardless of what my opinion is. If it is, indeed, a "revolutionary leap" in haptics by even the slightest measure of objectivity, simply find a reliable source stating something to this effect. If there is no indication that this device is notable and opinions about it cannot otherwise be verified, it does not belong anywhere on Wikipedia. I stated this earlier in my edit summary; that if you could find a source, then you were free to re-add the content (according to what the source had to say). But you did not make that effort. No one told you that you were prohibited from mentioning Novint or the Falcon, you were simply asked to follow the standards of the encyclopedia when doing so. You apparently feel exempt from those standards and did not follow through with finding adequate sources. Please do not find blame in other editors for asking that the quality of the article be upheld. Ham Pastrami (talk) 01:32, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Thanks, I removed the comments in question.  We can't talk about what will happen due to WP:CRYSTAL, and Wikipedia is not a brochure. -Verdatum (talk) 23:59, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Novint link? 

message: * Haptic technology section is a bit cumbersome. I suggest reorganizing it into something like pratical and entertainment uses of haptic technology... then alphabetize and combine the subsections where possible.
* The bit about the night club should be at the top of the page, or at the very least not under 'Haptic Technology'.
* Would be nice to have another picture, maybe at the top.
guiltyspark 23:06, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Feedback on Article

message: There was confusion and overlap between this article and Haptics. I have moved the info about human touching behaviour to Haptics. Now this article should be only about haptic technology. To that end I propose that the article is renamed Haptic technology. In any case I am not that keen on an article title being an adjective. Any other suggestions? Matt 20:47, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Content and title of article 

message: I know I'm being pedantic, but I think both parts of the following statement need to be sourced.
:Many have believed these controllers to be providing force feedback when in reality true force feedback involves the feedback of a resisting force to the user.
"Many have believed" are usually considered weasel words, and the definition of "force feedback" needs a cite. Heck, I may do it if I get around to it.
-- trlkly 07:33, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game controls 

message: No mention of Wii in this article. Is Wii considered a haptically-informed device?   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.135.141.54 (talk) 15:01, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The word haptic is an adjective, and the article Haptic is actually about haptic technology.  There are some other articles that use the adjective 'haptic', including Haptic perception and Haptic communication.  This was suggested last year in an earlier comment on this page. Currently Haptic technology redirects to Haptic, and it should be the other way around, I think.--Cooper24 (talk) 07:07, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been done! -- Natalya 16:31, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: * Flanagan, J.R., Lederman, S.J. Neurobiology: Feeling bumps and holes, News and Views, Nature, Vol. 412, pp. 389-91 (2001). 
* Hayward V, Astley OR, Cruz-Hernandez M, Grant D, Robles-De-La-Torre G. Haptic interfaces and devices (Portable Document Format). Sensor Review 24(1), pp. 16-29 (2004).
* Robles-De-La-Torre G. & Hayward V. Force Can Overcome Object Geometry In the perception of Shape Through Active Touch. Nature Vol. 412 pp. 445-8 (2001). 
* Robles-De-La-Torre G. The Importance of the Sense of Touch in Virtual and Real Environments (Portable Document Format). IEEE Multimedia 13(3), Special issue on Haptic User Interfaces for Multimedia Systems, pp. 24-30 (2006).
I'm fixing up Robot for its WP:GAR review, and these links in the Further Reading section on haptic technology don't seem to me to be sufficiently tied to that article.  Feel free to add them to this article if you like. - Dan Dank55 (send/receive) 13:57, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Further reading" links from [[Robot]] 

message: It's a common misrepresentation, but holograms are not projections. And the article given as a reference doesn't even use holographic technology(Typical reporters not fully understanding what they are writing on). It uses a curved mirror and a regular computer monitor to create an illusion of an object in a 3D space, much like the old Time Traveler arcade game. And that is far from being a hologram. It still uses haptic technology but I just though you guys would like to get your facts straight. Laserlight31 (talk) 14:59, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  holographic projections? 

message: Needs to mention Smartphones especially since there are options within settings "enable haptic feedback" etc.    —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.244.121.144 (talk) 15:35, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Steam just released information about a Steam controller that has haptic feedback of some kind. It seems to use trackpads that can do more than most trackpads as far as haptic goes. Does it seem like this article shoould have information about it? Workster (talk) 19:27, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should the article have mention of the new Steam controller by Valve? 

message: I have removed the section "Design, by generation". The rationale is below. 
1) This section leads the reader to believe that all haptic devices can be placed into one of these four categories, and that all haptic devices follow this progression. Neither of these points are true.
2) The section does not cite any reference for the given classification, so right now this seems like some editor's personal opinion. 
3) This section appears to be heavily biased towards flat panel displays such as the kind found in smart phones rather than a general classification scheme for all haptic devices.
4) This section contains factual errors. 
First let me summarize the classification scheme proposed in the current draft:
First gen: Whole-device vibration feedback.
Second gen: Localized vibration feedback, as well as better-tuned vibration.
Third gen: Localized vibration feedback with specialized feedback effects.
Fourth gen: Pressure sensitive device input.
The most glaring problem is that this section does not harmonize with the rest of the article. Many haptic devices are mentioned that simply make no sense under this classification- such as using force feedback in airplane controls or robotic teleoperation. These devices do not use vibration feedback, and are quite old (stated in the article as the 1950's). In general this section is written about haptic feedback in electronic devices, but the broader definition of "mechanical feedback" given in the article introduction encompasses a much broader range of devices. For example, force feedback is provided by the very old, simple, and non-electronic reach extender tool, and is in fact an essential aspect of the tool.
The section includes at least one major factual error in the fourth generation, and is quite out of date at any rate. The Microsoft Surface Pro tablet uses a pressure sensitive pen to provide pressure sensitive input directly on a display, and was released in Feb 2013. A company called Wacom has been producing pressure sensitive input pads for quite a long time indeed- I don't know exactly when they started but I remember that a product called the ArtPad II had pressure-sensitive input and was old enough that its software came on floppy disks. Either the author isn't clear about what exact functionality they're referring to, or they are very uninformed.
24.107.185.147 (talk) 11:14, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section: Design, By Generation is misleading 

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message: Hi all, 
I'm doing research for an Info Science course and have come across some research about "wearable pneumatic vibrotactile actuator technology" that can be mounted on a fingertip and looks like those small latex Band-Aids you can wrap around your hands. I'm still in the beginning part of my research, but so far what I've come across is fascinating and I'd like to update this article with this up-to-date information. 
Anyways, I just wanted to convey my thoughts. As a first-time Wikipedian, I'm happy to be here and I look forward to contributing more to this collective and insightful space! :)
Acarajé No 1 (talk) 05:09, 4 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding a section for "Skin-Integrated Haptic Technology" or creating a new Wiki for said topic