Talk:Media coverage of the Iraq War

message: I think, in the long wrong if the 1000 or 2000 milestones are remembered, its probably the 1000th that will be remembered the most.  Therefore, the 1000th probably warrants more space here than the 2000th.  I suspect the 2000th seems more signficant now, merely because its more recent.  The 1000th happened during a presidential campaign, and probably had more impact and notice.  I'm not suggesting either needs to be mentioned, but just that the 2000th is less signficant.  --Rob 16:18, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casualty milestones 

message: Wikipedia must be the only outfit in the world that still believes this thoroughly discredited cock and bull story. Aside from the fact that there are several pictures on the internet that show that the street was virtually empty that day, all you would have to do is watch the documentary Control Room to see that it was a staged incident. If the person editing this piece is a supporter of the Iraq War fine, but trying to defend a sloppy piece of pentagon propaganda is intellectually dishonest. 
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What does it mean anyways that the event was "staged"?  It was a genuine act of vandalism of the statue.  You think it was done with CGI?  The media were housed across the square.  So regardless of who pulled the statue down, it was going to be filmed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.31.44.230 (talk) 23:55, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
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message: I have tried to give the article a more linear, coherent structure, by reordering the sections. I've put the more general categories up top, and I've moved the related sections closer to one another. Benzocane 17:58, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I took a look at the section on anti-U.S. bias (you called it pro-U.S. bias above, but I think you mean the opposite).  I agree that the information is basically unsourced.  The one really strong source is the Michael O'Hanlon piece, which is a fairly rigorous analysis of the "negativity" or "positivity" of the media coverage of the invasion.  O'Hanlon did find that negative stories in most outlets, including the NYT as well as the WSJ and Washington Times tended to be more negative than positive.  But I understood the central point of his analysis to be that this was because things were generally going more negatively than positively with the invasion.  As O'Hanlon wrote: "trends on the ground do more to determine the nature of U.S.  media coverage of Iraq than any biases of reporters."  In other words, the news from Iraq was bad because, in fact, the news from Iraq was bad. I don't think then that his analysis is evidence for an anti-U.S. bias.  As for the AP allegedly making up a stringer, I couldn't find any really reputable source saying that this happened. So that is my two cents.  Interested to know if  anyone disagrees. --Mackabean 14:55, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I did some more work on the order of the sections, all in the spirit of making this article more readable. In particular, I moved the criticisms of the U.S. mainstream media to make it a subsection of the mainstream media.  I also put U.S. independent media right after U.S. mainstream media because it seemed to give better continuity.  And I split the attacks on Al Jazeera and the Palestine hotel into separate sections. Thoughts on whether this reorg. makes it better?  --Mackabean 20:13, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Order of sections

message: One issue that seemed to be missing from this article entirely was a discussion of Iraqi media coverage of the invasion.  I have added that section, focusing on 3 points: 1) State control of Iraqi media prior to the invasion (by all accounts, Saddam was a vicious opponent of a free press); 2) The proliferation of media outlets post invasion; and 3) U.S. efforts to affect Iraqi media coverage by planting stories.  I welcome thoughts as to whether there are other issues under the heading of Iraqi media coverage that are worthy of including here. --Mackabean 16:10, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iraqi media coverage 

message: As part of the effort to clean this article up, I moved the section previously titled "Bodies returning to Dover" to the Coverage of Casualties section. First, "Bodies returning" seems pretty unencyplopedic and probably violates NPOV. It also seems more appropriately a subset of that larger issue (coverage of casualties), as opposed to its own section. 
I have some further thoughts/questions on this section.  1. Should this actually be somewhere under U.S. mainstream media coverage? Because I imagine the coverage of casualties was very different in the international and especially Iraqi media. 2. If not, does anyone have information about how the non US media covered casualties? 3. Right now this just talks about U.S. military casualties. Does anyone have good information on the coverage of civilian casualties. 4.  There is a lot of discussion about the coverage of the 1000th, 2000th, and 3000th casualties right now.  It seems to be more than is necessary. Does anyone think it should be cut down? Thanks. --Mackabean 17:49, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coverage of casualties 

message: Lead para with just one sentence is not acceptable. Please work on the lead section as per WP:Lead. Once you completed it, please ping me on my talk page. --Kalyan 20:20, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article doesn't provide sources for the information and i took the first section ("U.S. mainstream media coverage") and added "citation needed" tags where references and sources need to be provided. Once you add references, please ping me on my talk page.--Kalyan 18:20, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it'd be better if you went ahead and failed the article; while I feel it is very close to GA status, I think it needs more time and/or attention than I can give it right now. Thanks for the pointers and assistance, though. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 18:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Oh, thanks for adding the  tags, by the way. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 18:51, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
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