Talk:Australia/Archive 4

message: Can someone find a nice place for this? The data comes from Changing patterns of population distribution in Australia --CloudSurfer 22:17, 16 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks, added to demographics of Australia. clarkk 14:26, 23 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population data 

message: While I support the Queen's picture at Government of Australia, I do not support it here. It would be more appropriate to use John Howard's picture (and update it to new Prime ministers, if they ever come).--ZayZayEM 04:52, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I just replaced the picture.  I don't know which annoys me more, but JH's picture is definitely the more appropriate given the actual influence both figures have on Australia's government. --Robert Merkel 06:10, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: I agree with you both. Tannin 12:27, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Queen here? I don't think so 

message: An automated Wikipedia link suggester has some possible wiki link suggestions for the Australia article:
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* Can link scientific name: ...dicus or New Holland, a name which is recalled in the scientific name of the native cockatiel, Nymphicus hollandicus, a b... (link to section)
* Can link scientific evidence: ... still a subject of considerable research.  There is strong scientific evidence for a presence around 50,000 years ago, a period of massive... (link to section)
* Can link American colonies: ...blishment of a penal colony there following the loss of the American colonies.... (link to section)
* Can link Port Jackson: ...tablishment of a settlement (later to become Sydney) in Port Jackson by Captain Arthur Phillip on January 26, 1788. ... (link to section)
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* Can link responsible government: ...w was adopted in each colony at the time of the granting of responsible government, and was subsequently modified by the individual legislatur... (link to section)
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* Can link mixed economy: ... 20th century, Australia had a prosperous Western-style mixed economy, with a per capita GDP on par wi... (link to section)
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* Can link economic downturn: ...Australian economy has been resilient in the face of global economic downturn, with steady growth.  Rising output in the domestic economy... (link to section)
* Can link Bob Hawke: ...h. In the 1980s, the Labor Party, led by Prime Minister Bob Hawke and Treasurer Paul Keating, played a crucial role in modern... (link to section)
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* Can link Coalition government: ...ency towards wage bargaining). Also during this period, the Coalition government deregulated numerous other industries, including the teleco... (link to section)
* Can link natural monopolies: ...munications sector, and privatised many of the pre-existing natural monopolies. ... (link to section)
* Can link a level: ... growth. As of October 2004, unemployment had fallen to a level of 5.2%, the lowest level since the late 1970s. ... (link to section)
* Can link raw materials: ... of 5.2%, the lowest level since the late 1970s.   Many raw materials (including resources postulated to exist but yet to be disc... (link to section)
* Can link Britain and Ireland: ...the 1850s about two per cent of the combined populations of Britain and Ireland emigrated to New South Wales and Victoria.... (link to section)
* Can link developed countries: ...on, according to the 2001 Census. In common with many other developed countries, Australia is currently experiencing a demographic shift to... (link to section)
* Can link aging population: ...has now joined the Australian vocabulary.    Because of the aging population, Australia maintains one of the most active immigration pro... (link to section)
* Can link tertiary education: ...ew Zealand citizens are excluded from government subsidised tertiary education or other advantages granted to Australian citizens and perm... (link to section)
* Can link spoken language: ...ies.  English is the main official and spoken language in Australia, although some of the surviving Aboriginal com... (link to section)
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* Can link popular music: ...arey]] and Nobel Prize winner Patrick White. In the popular music sphere band and musicians (some notable examples include th... (link to section)
* Can link television networks: ...nd the United States.  Australia has three major commercial television networks, the Nine Network, Seven Network and the [[Ten Netw... (link to section)
* Can link Press Freedom: ...tralia is in 41st position on a list of countries ranked by Press Freedom; well behind New Zealand (9th) and United Kingdom (... (link to section)
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* In Black Rod, can backlink Australian Commonwealth: ... only used on visits from the Lieutenant Governors. The Australian Commonwealth Senate has Ms Andrea Griffiths as Usher of the Black Rod an...
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Notes: The article text has not been changed in any way; Some of these suggestions may be wrong, some may be right.
Feedback: I like it, I hate it, Please don't link to — LinkBot 11:26, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggest 40 possible wiki links and 3 possible backlinks for [[Australia]]. 

message: Australia is more densely populated than (refer to List of countries by population density and ):
*Botswana
*Namibia
*French Guiana
*Mongolia
*Western Sahara
*Pitcairn Islands
*Falkland Islands
*Greenland
And an interesting facts section? Please no. - Aaron Hill 07:04, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)
:The source I used was . can you atleast incorporate those facts somehow instead of just deleting them? --Hemanshu 10:54, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't Australia have the longest shoreline of any country in the world? That sounds more like a verifiable fact. - Mark 08:33, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)

text: I think it's beaten by Canada?  Possibly Russia as well. -- Chuq 01:10, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population Density and "Interesting Facts" 

message: the bugs in parameterised templates seem to be largely ironed out, so it may be time to consider using the infobox country template.  in any case, just so it doesn't get lost and is here for discussion (i originally had it in the article as an html comment, but it was recently removed), here is what it would look like:
:removed template, it was out of date, and is now included in the article directly. clarkk 11:41, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  parameterised infobox_country template 

message: You can also use template:australia infobox.--Jerryseinfeld 23:15, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: yeah, but the whole point of the parameterised version is that it used to get consistency across all countries.  all the template does above is move the infobox wikitext outside of the article.  however it would be useful for the above template to use, in turn, the parameterised template. clarkk 22:37, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox

message: I know this is an established notion that is by no means limited to this article, but it's just occurred to me - if the country of Australia comprises the whole of the continent of Australia, what continent is New Zealand part of? Surely not Asia? pomegranate 12:33, Jan 3, 2005 (UTC)
:From my understanding, New Zealand isn't a part of any true continent, but is a part of Oceania or Australasia, which is a 'region', one which also contains the continent of Australia. At least that's what I think. T.PK 13:15, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: New Zealand is not part of any continent, or continental shelf. Australia is a continent, and its continental shelf includes the islands of Tasmania and New Guinea, just as Europe's continental shelf includes the UK.--Cyberjunkie 13:28, 3 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The whole continent? 

message: I noticed there isn't a geology section, can anyone contribute that? --Commander Keane 12:14, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need for a Geology section 

message: Surely there can be more and better photographs on this page than the two that are currently there: Queen Elizabeth and John Howard!  There are so many choices: countryside, photos of regular people, cities, beaches, etc etc.  Somebody should really add photos to this page.  Look at other countries' pages for a sense of what's possible.  Moncrief 20:17, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)
:i agree, i've just added a few images to spice up the page, using relevant images in the individual sections. clarkk 04:18, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of photographs 

message: The article stated: in practice virtually the entire constitutional role of the monarch is performed independently by the Governor-General. This was misleading, because the constitutional role of the monarch in Australia is extremely limited. 
About all she does and can do is to appoint the Governor-General, and she has no discretion in the matter. The prerogative powers that the Queen exercises in the UK are explicitly given to the Governor-General in the constitution, and they derive from the people rather than the Queen. Skyring 10:02, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constitutional role of the Queen 

message: I seriously doubt the necessity of a link template for this organisation. It is not particularly relevant to the Australia article, nor is any gain brought by its listing. Should it remain?--Cyberjunkie 05:34, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I don't like it either. Foobaz·o< 06:04, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see a problem with it. Xtra 06:50, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: like other specialised templates like this, i suggest making it a footer of Economy of Australia as has been done with the APEC template etc.  clarkk 12:40, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  SOPAC? 

message: In my opinion, a military section is missing. 172.182.134.90 15:02, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Note  section, which contains a link to Military of Australia. It is not necessary that this be discussed in the Australia article.--Cyberjunkie 15:12, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: As aforementioned, the link is contained on the page, under the Related topics sub-heading. My point was, that there need not be a discussion of the military in the article - hence the link.--Cyberjunkie 03:25, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Military section