Talk:Theophoric name

message: Info I have found out from a good source:  
* "Jonathan" does not come from the Greek noun for god.
* Claiming that Samuel comes from the Sumerian El is speculative.
* Johnathan is Hebrew, from Yehova. Samuel is Hebrew, from El - the Hebrew word for God.
Can we have some confirmation of this? 
I must insist on sources for this article. This information seems to be amazingly wrong. - Ta bu shi da yu 14:13, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This User applied a "disputed factual accuracy" label to the very abbreviated entry (perhaps partly because it was headed Theophory— unnecessarily obscure, a common Wikipedia failing). I've now added some quickly-googled references and removed the label. More generally, there is currently a lot of behind-the-scenes discussion going on at Wikipedia:No original research. Here is a classic case of perfectly commonplace information being challenged, taken for "original research"—"I must insist on sources for this article"—simply because the User is uninformed. "Theophory" was a pretty opaque heading, we'd all agree... --Wetman 02:59, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: Another time one might just fix misspellings. Rather than label them "disputed factual accuracy" --Wetman 02:59, 13 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The table below is a reformated version of the table found in Section #1.
::The Data in this table below, can be found in Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible, 1890 Edition. 
::Seeker02421 23:33, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeker02421 23:36, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Theophoric Names starting with "Yeho" [Reformated]

message: This article seems to be about the concept of theophoric names across multiple religions but more than 75% of it is about  theophoric names in Hebrew.  How about creating an article titled Theophoric names in Hebrew and moving most of the text in this article to that new article?  That would restore the balance in this article of discussion of theophoric names in other religions.  --Richard 22:50, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Over-emphasis on theophoric names in Hebrew 

message: The 'translation/meaning' of the bible name Samuel is stated as being "his name is El" i.e. 'his name is God'. Surely this is incorrect! --Lepton6 (talk) 12:00, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Samuel

message: The Roman name Marcus (and thus Marc and Mark) comes from that of the god Mars. Should this be included?Lily20 (talk) 21:05, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marcus/Mars 

message: There's considerable redundancy in the Y(eh)o table. Here's a possible rearrangement. (Or how about a refactoring? I hear they're all the rage.)
Strong's #	Strong's #	the name 	the name    	the name  	the name  	word            	English conventional form	English conventional form
long form 	short form	long form	long form   	short form	short form	word            	long form                	short form
3059      	3099      	         	Yᵉhow'achaz 	          	Yow'achaz 	achaz [# 270]   	Jehoachaz                	Joachaz
3060      	3101      	         	Yᵉhow'ash   	          	Yow'ash   	'esh [# 784]    	Jehoash                  	Joash
3075      	3107      	         	Yᵉhowzabad  	          	Yowzabad  	zabad [# 2064]  	Jehozabad                	Jozabad
3076      	3110      	         	Yᵉhowchanan 	          	Yowchanan 	chanan [# 2603] 	Jehochanan               	Jochanan
3077      	3111      	         	Yᵉhowyada   	          	Yowyada   	yada [# 3045]   	Jehojada                 	Jojada
3078      	3112      	         	Yᵉhowyakiyn 	          	Yowyakiyn 	kuwn [# 3559]   	Jehojakin                	Jojakin
3079      	3113      	         	Yᵉhowyaqiym 	          	Yowyaqiym 	quwm [# 3965]   	Jehojakim                	Jojakim
3080      	3114      	         	Yᵉhowyariyb 	          	Yowyariyb 	riyb [# 7378]   	Jehojarib                	Jojarib
3082      	3122      	         	Yᵉhownadab  	          	Yownadab  	nadab [# 5068]  	Jehonadab                	Jonadab
3083      	3129      	         	Yᵉhownathan 	          	Yownathan 	nathan [# 5414] 	Jehonathan               	Jonathan
3085      	—         	         	Yᵉhow'addah 	—         	—         	'adah [# 5710]  	Jehoaddah                	—
3087      	3136      	         	Yᵉhowtsadaq 	          	Yowtsadaq 	tsadaq [# 6663] 	Jehotsadak               	Jotsadak
3088      	3141      	         	Yᵉhowram    	          	Yowram    	ruwm [# 7311]   	Jehoram                  	Joram
3092      	3146      	         	Yᵉhowshaphat	          	Yowshaphat	shaphat [# 8199]	Jehoshaphat              	Joshaphat
          	          	         	            	          	          	                	                         	
3470a     	3470      	         	Yᵉsha'yahuw 	          	Yᵉsha'yah 	yasha [# 3467]  	Jeshajahu                	Jeshajah
5418a     	5418      	         	Nᵉthanyahuw 	          	Nᵉthanyah 	nathan [# 5414] 	Nethanjahu               	Nethanjah
138a      	138       	         	'Adoniyahuw 	          	'Adoniyah 	'adown [# 113]  	Adonijahu                	Adonijah
452a      	452       	         	'Eliyahu    	          	' Eliyah  	'el [# 410]     	Elijahu                  	Elijah
3414a     	3414      	         	Yirmᵉyahuw  	          	Yirmᵉyah  	ruwm [# 7311]   	Jirmejahu                	Jirmejah
—         	5166      	—        	—           	          	Nᵉchemyah 	nacham [# 5162] 	—                        	Nechemjah
Is the transliteration a bit nonstandard? Length marks are missing, for one thing, and lenition is inconsistent. —Tamfang (talk) 06:14, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No comment (and no change), guess I'll just do it —Tamfang (talk) 16:56, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  bigass table 

message: There seems to be a duplicate article that has been created.
~ Iamthecheese44 (talk) 22:48, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, followed a redlink. Self deleted and refs transferred here. In ictu oculi (talk) 01:52, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: For example, Tutankhamun's original name, Tutankhaten, means "Living Image of Aten", while Tutankhamun means "Living Image of Amun". If Germanic gods are allowed as examples, then other pagan gods should also be allowed to.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:335F:DCC0:94F:4DE9:1229:A850 (talk) 18:43, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancient Egyptian names that has names of gods in them 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Timotheus is listed in the Christian section, but most of the people on the disambiguation page predate Christianity. Perhaps it should be either moved or copied into the Classical section? Jfmantis (talk) 22:54, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timotheus? 

message: I mean, obviously the name doesn't "invok[e] and display[] the protection of" El, but it certainly "embeds the name of" El (emphasis added).  While its theophobic nature would certainly disqualify it as a theophilic name, that should not, in my opinion, disqualify it as a theophoric name.Wiktionary, after all, defines theophoric as merely "[c]ontaining the name of a deity" (emphasis added)—which, to me, seems the appropriate parametre, and would mean that the name Samael (meaning venom of god) would constitute a theophoric name.  Even the present article states that theophoros literally means "bearing or carrying a god"—so, again, Samael would seem appropriate for inclusion.allixpeeke (talk) 06:02, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about [[Samael]]? 

message: How can Joseph be a theophoric name of Yahweh when Moses first learned of it in Exodus 6:3?  For those that claim Moses wrote the old testament, and therefore inserted it in regards to Abraham and other patriarchs (when they called on it), can not rely on such an argument to explain the name of Joseph. For if Joseph is indeed a theophoric name of Yahweh, then Rebecca (Joseph's mother)  would have known the name Yahweh thus contradicting Exodus 6:3. DocMando (talk) 01:14, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Yahweh is not God's name. That's a common misconception. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 21:26, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joseph can NOT be a theophoric name of Yahweh 

message: I find the tables related to the various meanings very interesting, but miss any references as to their origin. Would the person who has entered these tables please provide such references, otherwise these are just conjecture and do not belong in a wikipedia article. 
Hskoppek (talk) 12:07, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interesting tables related to extended meanings of YHWH 

message: It's a pre-Christian Greek name, apparently originating from Zeus Georgos, which was an ancient Athenian agrarian god. The agrarian aspect is in the name's etymology in fact, meaning "earthworker' and\ or "husbandman". 92.114.148.91 (talk) 22:27, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  George