Talk:South Thailand insurgency

message: Should this article merge with Pattani separatism? __earth 10:21, August 1, 2005 (UTC)
:Absolutely, the two are duplicate articles. I have added the template to the top of the articles. andy 11:31, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: However Pattani separatism is the older article, and the one which is actually linked by other articles. While I agree that Pattani separatism needed some review (and this looks like an improved version of it), IMHO the right way to do is merge into Pattani separatism, as otherwise the editing history would look like you were the original creator of the article. andy 11:37, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

text: There's the article Pattani kingdom, which already covers the history of Pattani until it was firmly incorporated into Siam. andy 16:12, 1 August 2005 (UTC)

text: There is no article by that name, only a redirect. No merge, thanks. //Big Adamsky 03:43, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge?

message: Info concerning foreign fighters should be incorporated from here. freestylefrappe 19:58, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foreign fighters 

message: The article states there are three provinces involved, and trouble is spilling into others, but the current view amongst the media seems to be that there are actually 4 involved (Songkla, Pattani, Narathiwat and Yala).
I've been following Bangkok Post, Nation, ThaiDay for Thai news of interest internationally and putting it up on WikiNews.  Obviously I'll be linking here, I don't know if there are any plans to incorporate more detail on recent events, but it is generating about one story a week. Brianmc 12:25, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually it makes news almost everyday. Feel free to correct and update the information, which seems stuck in the Tak Bai incident!--Huaiwei 12:57, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As I'm concentrating on the current event side of it, I'll point you to my work-in-progress Infobox over on Wikinews.  This links to the WN articles on the subject. From there you'll find lots of links to news on the troubles.  I'm not much of a Wikipedian, and from the look of things there are people with more knowledge than me who could update the article.  Brianmc 14:34, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Provinces involved in current events 

message: Some of the external links point to sites run by people supporting the insurgency.  These websites have been censored for Thailand internet users by the Thai government.  Somebody put a short note saying exactly that, but their edits were reverted by user 203.90.25.134. Why this happened is completely beyond me. Patiwat 10:58, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It now appears that none of the external links are objectionable to the Thai government. However a link that was there earlier for PULO has been deleted entirely, and I can't check if it works or not because of where I'm located. Wisekwai 15:05, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Censoring of insurgency websites by Thai government 

message: I would think the Current insurgency section could chronicle the major events that have been going on since 2001. And I can see why the Tak Bai incident would need its own section (heck, it could be its own page, with some extra work on it). But the Current developments section is kind of tacked on to the end of it all. It seems repetitive to have two sections called "Current" and "Current". I wonder if the latter section be more like a timeline can be called such? Wisekwai 17:06, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current insurgency/Current developments 

message: The editors should give some thought about whether this article really should include the details of every single violent incident occuring in the South.  This might have been insightful in 2004-5, when incidents were scattered.  But now we've got killings and bombings on occuring on a daily basis.  The article is getting a bit tiresome, with all these mentions of individual incidents. Patiwat 13:43, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a threshhold issue. If the news is big enough to hit the international press, for example the Yahoo News or Google News' lead stories, the New York Times, etc., it's something that should be included on the page. But for these smaller, daily occurrences, it's very difficult to keep track of and maintain, and, yes it's tiresome, not only for the editors but for the readers as well. Perhaps a year-end summary? Wisekwai 16:14, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Are you refering to any particular entry in this article? Dont mind quoting them here if possible?--Huaiwei 16:33, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should individual incidents be noted any more? 

message: The article doesn't mention the storming of Krue Sae mosque, which seems to be a glaring ommission.  Patiwat 01:14, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No mention of Krue Sae 

message: Should the "Recent attacks and responses" to "Timeline of significant events"?  Some of the events mentioned in the section are mentioned in the topical sections as well, and I think this new title reflects its content better than the old.  Patiwat 23:54, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Recent attacks and responses" -> "Timeline of significant events" 

message: This article is in danger of becoming yet another endless chronicle of current events in Thailand. Wikipedia is an encyclopaedia, not a news blog. Patiwat, this seems to be a bad habit of yours in particular. Please do not add a new sentence every time something new happens. Also there is no critical dimension at all in recent edits. The stuff about the soup-sellers is reported as fact when it is obviouly nonsense. Adam 01:43, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: This article

message: I agree with the previouse writer...it is sad to see such "fear" propaganda in a sense. If you were
to go to this area it is calm and not as it seems in the news. However, there are underlying
clashes and there are groups of people who may represent a religious group and then branch off
from the core or core teachings of the religion and misinterpret what the religion asks of them
in the name of the religion, thus overstepping into a way that not only ends in taking lives, but
casts a bitter shadow and racial discrimination of those other religious peoples, of the same 
religion, but do not participate, nor agree with the actions of others of the same religion. It is as if a small group of people are talking..alone, and convincing themselves they know best and in their discussions they see only what they think and see, and they use agression to get what they want, or they believe this is how to get what they want. So they go out and use violent tactics, they go to violence first not trying all other methods and ways to communicate or to make change. 
They do not look at the history of the world and realize that what they are doing 
"to fight for a cause" their cause, has already been done in the world all over. Usually from historic reference, it is those who had the patience, the knowledge and the respect for life, in its form, those persons who looked for a method to make change without violence...it was these people who made change..for ever...and to this day remain examples and icons of how to make change in a way that shines world attention on the very cause, because violence was not used. The situation in the South of Thailand needs to be handled by the news with more racial sensitivity, rather then pointing fingers or making assumptions that are unproven about muslim peoples. It just feeds to the frenzy of the on going war in another part of the world and does not lend itself to change, but lends itself to mistrust and fear. Thailand in the South has a high concentration of muslim peoples who are not involved with the insurgency. They are just people of a religion. Just as there are Buddhist peoples. To blanket the whole South and putting fear into people who live or visit Thailand negates all that people are living for..the right for freedom
I, personally, didn't believe that this insurgency in the Southern part of Thailand have anything to do with the Muslim separatists.
As of now, Thai people are still not sure about the cause of this insurgency and who did it.
The majority of Thai people in the southern part of Thailand, they sure didn't want to seperate the country.
We still don't know whether this group of people who created the insurgency are hired to do so or something else. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chatchavit (talk • contribs) 09:22, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this article comment anything related to the Muslim separatists? 

message: The article currently states: "Jobs in the Thai public sector are difficult to obtain for those Muslim students who did not ever fully accept the Thai language or the Thai education system."
The articles on the southern provinces make no mention of language - I know that some in the south do speak Malay, but this is a much stronger claim. Hopefully someone can flesh this out and add info to the relevant articles, e.g. about percentages of the populations who speak a particular language. --Chriswaterguy talk 06:35, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Muslims and language - more info needed 

message: HRW has published a large report on this conflict available here . this should help with the righting with this article. (Hypnosadist) 19:13, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Human rights watch

message: I'd like the page to be more detailed on casualties: among the 3,000 that were killed, how many were Buddhist civilians, Muslim civilians, Buddhist troops, Muslim insurgents?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.247.85.103 (talk) 00:47, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casualties 

message: Are you kidding? the Philippines has the same Muslim insurgency on its southern part so why the Philippines have to join the trouble this is hilarious and irrational. Double trouble no way.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.68.114 (talk) 12:06, 2 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  SUPPORTERS = PHILIPPINES? 

message: As the people involved are native Thais should this really be termed an "insurgency"? They are not "insurging" from anywhere as far as I am aware. Kernow (talk) 15:04, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You keep using this word...I do not think it means what you think it means... ('insurge') is a rock band.  The word insurgency is from "insurgens" or "insurgere" - which simply means to get up, ascend, rebel... implicitly, internal to a group, unit, organization, country, etc...http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/insurgent.  Check out "insurrection" as well.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Archon888 (talk • contribs) 21:44, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name: Are they really insurgents? 

message: Should we make another page calle Timeline of the South Thailand Insurgency? There is actually a lot more that has happened than in this article. I tried updated a lot recently .  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.156.194.93 (talk) 06:55, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline of the South Thailand Insurgency 

message: I have flagged the opening secion for review, because it characterises the events as a "liberation struggle" and a "struggle for freedom". Others might characterise it as a genocide of Buddhists. It also describes Patani as "under Thai rule" - what about describing Patani as "part of Thailand"? KillerBoogie (talk) 19:26, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: This article mentions an insurgency in south thailand during the 1960s. I can't see any mention of this in the current article. Did it happen or not?
http://journals.hil.unb.ca/index.php/jcs/article/view/292/465
Rajmaan (talk) 09:23, 24 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insurgency during the 1960's? 

message: I have started a new article for the timeline here
Timeline of events related to the South Thailand insurgency
Can we move the timeline text to the new article? --C (talk) 15:42, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline 

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message: "Mostly led by Salafist hardliners, they have extreme and transnational religious goals, such as an Islamic Caliphate, to the detriment of a constructive cultural or nationalistic Patani identity."
From the literature I read, it looks like the BRN, the most prominent group, seeks a local sharia-based state, not a caliphate. This contradicts the Abuza citation (and others) pretty directly. At the very least, if the literature is unclear on the BRN/the insurgency's motives, it should be noted that the motives are unclear (or something to that effect that falls within Wikipedia's guidelines). Anthemia (talk) 22:44, 13 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality Concerns 

message: Why is this part of the war on terror? the usa has nothing to do with it 2001:1C01:35C4:6900:B178:4CFC:5EA7:D6C2 (talk) 16:29, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  war on terror?