Talk:Doctor's Advocate

message: he debuted at no. 1 on the world charts
:. This page is only semiprotected; any username more than a few days old can edit it. CMummert · talk 18:03, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: chart

message: The name of the album was changed because The Game switched record labels, to Geffen Records.  --Darkneonflame 06:44, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are wrong assuming this, it is still called The Doctor's Advocate. Dr Dre is still working on the album. TRUE SOURCE is this (from Game's official site posted by a mod on there) . Now change the name back because it is The Doctor's Advocate not the Devils Advocate, that was a miswording of it that SOHH did by accident. Theres no official news to change the name to The Devils Advocate. --—Preceding unsigned comment added by Jsnakej (talk • contribs) 
According to your source it says that the name of the album is The Devils Advocate.--Darkneonflame 07:18, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: It is a typo that both sites typed, that source is actually that article copied the original the yours was based off of was deleted. I will look again for it and find it for you.  In your source they called it The Doctor's Advocate and The Devil's Advocate, but didn't explain their change.  I don't think thats enough proof. --JsnakeJ 07:22, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: We're best off leaving it where it is now until there is actual proof. (The Doctor's Advocate (album))  The album was named to pay respect to Dr. Dre, not because he was on his label.  Sorry for the mess-up that I caused with this. --JsnakeJ 08:07, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Devil's Advocate is the name of a mixtape made by The Game in 2004--Iplars 04:29, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Doctor's/Devils Advocate

message: There seems to be a lot of confusion regarding the producer of the above song, will.i.am is listed in the page, but Cool & Dre have the song listed as being produced by them (please see their page) and some people belive it was produced by The Neptunes. Could someone please verify its actual producer?
23/03
I have a copy of the UK version of the Doctor's Advocate and it lists in the CD inlay that the producer for the bonus track 'Chillin' is produced by will.i.am, hence the song featuring fellow Black Eyed Pea Fergie. This should be altered in the respective wikipedia pages to avoid misleading and confusion. 
Cool & Dre were meant to have a track on the album but it was pulled in the last minute for unknown reasons. The Game has always wanted to have a track produced by the Neptunes but Pharrell does not want to collaborate with him, hence this obvious mimic of their style.
Are you sure?  I could have sworn it was a Chad and Pharrell produced track.  will.i.am does not use the same synthesizers the Neptunes are known for.  This sound is very distinct and I would doubt will.i.am (such a notable producer in his own right) would produce as a quiet-replica of another production?  I think assuming Fergie is in it is a little too far.  Furthermore, grounduphiphop.com and many other sites reference the Neptunes as the producers.  I think it should be left blank or back to the Neptunes.  Also, if you could give a source of where you heard Pharrell doesn't want to work with Game, that would help.  I have heard that Pharrell is a fan of Game and they both have interest in collaborating.
Justafan34 06:15, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, since the guy has a copy of the UK CD, then I guess we should listen to him, assuming he is telling the truth. --- Realest4Life 12:08, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: UK Bonus Track 'I'm Chilin'

message: :Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
Nomoinate and Support. --Ted87 15:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: are we sure that it's fergie on the bonus track of the album? it sounds like her, kind of. I guess.
Who acutally produces this bonus track? will.i.am, The Neptunes or Cool 'N Dre?
Things change. He 'confirmed' those tracks months ago, and between then, he's left Aftermath and recorded dozens of new songs, some of which ultimately ended up being more suitable for the album. I'm a bit surprised myself (i was looking forward to hearing some of the stuff Cool & Dre hyped up, like Street ryders, Stop), but that's how the music industry works. Besides, if you live in England, you have the opportunity to get a bonus track (I'm Chillin) which was supposedly produced by Cool & Dre (though some places it says Neptunes, it even features Pharrel), but that's limited release.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.217.74.204 (talk • contribs) 
:Of you've heard the song you would know that it is Fergie that sings in it. And there are many sources that say that the track was produced my Cool & Dre. http://xxlmag.com/online/?p=6165, http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/audio/id.843/title.the-game-im-chillin are both sources that say that Cool & Dre produced it. --Darkneonflame 23:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am from the UK and I have the UK album with the Bonus Track and it's produced by will.i.am and it IS Fergie. Paul.Peat 10:37, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fergie?

message: We have a chart at the bottom, which is excellent, but there seems to be some confusion over the 1st week sales. The best figure going around is that he sold +150,000 on the first day, and is on track to sell 400,000-500,000 and take the number 1 spot. G-unit stans have gotta stop interfering with this thread, you guys are just jealous because Soundscan officially reported that Mobb deep and Lloyd Banks can't make 300,000, Hot Rod won't even be certified Wood, and Bucks album aint comin out.
No need to have variations of this, 400k-500k first week esitmate, 150k on first day.
It's not even necessary to have estimate 1st week sales, though many people are referring to this page as proof.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Doja (talk • contribs) 
I see at the bottom of the page is a chart for sales but it says that it was # 1 in its first week on the billboard 200 but that is fales I have checked www.billboard.com since the album first came out on 11/14/06 and i have never seen it # 1 at all—Preceding unsigned comment added by Drama225 (talk • contribs) 
:Numerous reliable sources have predicted that DA will debut at #1. --Ted87 23:50, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's even on the charts yet. It's still new, and I don't think the charts have been updated yet to include Doctor's Advocate. --Mrpencap 21:27, 21 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh please, Jay-Z's new album sold 15,000 units outside the U.S. and I don't see anyone calling that bad. Plus, not to defend Game, but how many hip hip artists that released albums in the past few months have gone gold in three weeks? (This is assuming he sells about 3000 units next week) And 300k units is not considered ok, it is considered pretty damn good.
Coolintro 00:30, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

text: How the hell are we supposed to know the sales if the album is not in the Billboard 200 chart anymore? It obviously sold more, but without a source we can't update the sales, because we don't know what the sales are. If you know the album's sales, please update them, but don't come here and bitch about the sales. --- Realest4Life 20:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually, you did bitch, and no, I'm not the bitch, I always try to update sales for albums like Buck the World, Strength and Loyalty, and others, but this album is not charting anymore, so stop your whining. Also, your behaviour can lead to a block, especially when you tell other people to "shut their mouth". I won't report, but some people will, so I'm just saying you know, be careful. If you can find a source for the album sales, please update them, but the album is selling less than 5,000 copies a week, otherwise it would be in the top 200 albums. Peace. --- Realest4Life 18:39, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Album Sales

message: Please note that the Neptunes did not produce the track "I'm Chillin" it is produced by will.i.am of the Black Eyed Peas. I have the UK album and that is what's written in the credits. And the "I'm Chillin" chorus is actually sung by will.i.am as well. So whoever keeps changing it please stop.
Paul.Peat 12:43, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Neptunes (Bonus Track)

message: BACK UP THIS SHIT SOMEBODY DELETED THE SALES WTF?—Preceding unsigned comment added by JFizzle91 (talk • contribs) 
This link shws that the DOCTORS ADVOCATE HAS SOLD OVER 1.3 million to date.
http://www.clickitaliansoftware.net/hosted/vgcgroup/WorldwideAlbum/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.174.200.62 (talk) 18:41, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sales

message: I just checked billboaad 200, in week four the game was number 42, but when i checked wikipedia it said #38 and in the world sales theres no position. Wikipedia is full of bullshit—Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.59.136.48 (talk • contribs) 
It was changed back to 42 a little while ago. --Ted87 23:32, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Position

message: Someone keeps changing it from will.i.am to The Neptunes. Please lock the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.123.70 (talk • contribs) 
It is locked against anon users. --Ted87 21:00, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Production

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thread_title: soundscan report

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thread_title: This Week's Album Sales 

message: I’m reading the Doctor’s Advocate official album inlay booklet as we speak right now.  And nowhere does it say that The Neptunes had anything to do with producing the “I’m Chillin’” bonus track.  It says it’s produced by Will.i.am, so this article is incorrect. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Nayf87 (talk • contribs) 19:44, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Incorrect Information 

message: It Should be Added That This ALBUM recived a 4.5 rating From The Souce ThisIs Really Importaint 
 And It Would Be Great If Someone could Also Add A picture  Of It
It should be changed that This ALBUM has sold 1291075 or 1.3 million copies to date. http://www.clickitaliansoftware.net/hosted/vgcgroup/WorldwideAlbum/
that is the link that varifies this information.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.174.200.62 (talk) 18:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is not a reliable source. --- Who's the one you call Mr. Macho? The head honcho, swift fist like Camacho 19:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Source 4.5 Mics

message: See Here 
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by CMDJR (talk • contribs) 05:36, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-Release !

message: Ok, let's settle this. Here's a photograph of my inlay from a UK CD. Notice it quite clearly says "Produced by: will.i.am" and "Additional vocals: Fergie and Will I Am (sic.) of The Black Eyed Peas"
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/1022/dscf04701ef1.jpg
-- Borb 15:11, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: UK Bonus track "I'm Chillin"

message: the song Too Much sounds much like a song from much the old ps game final fantasy —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dahispanicmex (talk • contribs) 20:15, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Too Much

message: The Game wanted to proove that he could sell as much as his debut album (The Documentary) without help of Dr. Dre or G-Unit. However, the album wasn't certified platinum by the RIAA, selling 900.000 copies in the U.S., while The Documentary was certified 2x Platinum. Worldwide The Game sold 5 million with his first album, and 2 million with his second. This might not be because of Dr. Dre, 50 Cent & G-Unit not contributing to the album, but also because 2006 was the worst year for hiphop. Many platinum-selling artists (Snoop Dogg, The Game, Nas, Obie Trice, Lloyd Banks, Busta Rhymes, Diddy) didn't go platinum in this year. The 2006 sales were 21% less than the 2005 sales.
Altough G-Unit isn't featured, there are many interesting guest appearances on this album. Including Snoop Dogg, Nas, Xzibit, The Black Eyed Peas, Nate Dogg, Busta Rhymes and more!
What is up with this tone? The current tone is biased and should be re-written. 
"The Game wanted to proove"? First of all its "prove" not "proove" Actually a better term would be: "The Game wanted to establish himself as rapper who didnt need big name producers (such as Dr. Dre or Neptunes) to help sell his album. 
However, the album wasn't certified platinum by the RIAA, selling 900.000 copies in the U.S., while The Documentary was certified 2x Platinum. Worldwide The Game sold 5 million with his first album, and 2 million with his second. 
First of all, the current tone makes it sound like The Game did these numbers in an single day.
Secondly, where are you getting your numbers from? Cite!
A better sentance would be: "While The Game still debuted atop the US Billboard 200 selling 840,000 (I forgot but I think it was something like that), he sold less than his debut album The Documentary (selling xxx,xxx the first week).
This might not be because of Dr. Dre, 50 Cent & G-Unit not contributing to the album, but also because 2006 was the worst year for hiphop. Many platinum-selling artists (Snoop Dogg, The Game, Nas, Obie Trice, Lloyd Banks, Busta Rhymes, Diddy) didn't go platinum in this year. The 2006 sales were 21% less than the 2005 sales.
My version:
There are a number of reasons speculated to The Game's Doctor's Advocate sells. Some believe it is due to his fallout with G-Unit, some believe it is due to the lack of Dr. Dre on the album, and other speculate more reasons. However, it should be noted that many platinum-selling artists (such as Snoop Dogg, Nas, Obie Trice, Lloyd Banks, Busta Rhymes, Diddy)did not go plantinum in 2006 due to overall loss of album sales. The 2006 sales were 21% less than the 2005 sales. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.182.26.136 (talk) 22:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tone of article

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