Talk:Jonathan Edwards

message: Much better placement of images. Thanks KHM03. Mkmcconn (Talk) 15:52, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
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message: It's not our job to assert that; saying that he was born after his time asserts a non-neutral point of view, and that is forbidden by Wikipedia policy.  Is there a better way to say this? --Idont Havaname (Talk) 21:52, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't say he was reinterpreting the theology.  Puritanism was still very strong in the New England area, and the Great Awakening lead to a spread of the more "conservative" (as opposed to the other Protestant denominations of the area [Presbyterians, etc.]).  Tristangreer 15:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "... born after his time." 

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message: I presume that the first name heading this page must be the preacher and theologian of eighteenth century America, the Great Awakening (or Great Revivalist) preacher [[Jonathan Edwards). I hardly think he did live from 1703 to 2009 - this would make him 2008! I think his dates were in fact, 1703-1789, but if any one knows them off by heart, s/he could alter this and put in the correct dates. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 21:19, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Dates must be wrong

message: I may need someone to enlighten me here. I find abundant references that Chauncy wrote the "old light" classic Seasonable Thoughts on the State of Religion in New England in 1743 (I've read it too), but I am unable to find any non-Wikipedia reference to The Late Religious Commotions in New England Considered,published in 1743. Are these the same work under different titles. Or may it be that the latter is a sermon title mistakenly attributed as a title of the book?Will3935 09:15, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am going to change the name of the work. At the very least, Seasonable Thoughts was indeed published in 1743 and addressed revival enthusiasm. If the other title is valid someone else can add it.Will3935 08:34, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Did not change the name after all. I must be ignorant (would appreciate a link to this work as it must be in the public domain). I simply added Chauncy's Seasonable Thoughts.Will3935 08:44, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Chauncy

message: First, some of the wording and punctuation seem quite old in style. I haven't done an extensive comparison between the exact wording in the article and that found in Serono Dwight's biography of Edwards but the style seems reminiscent. English has changed considerably since Dwight's time and thus the old style seems antiquated and the wording at times does not follow modern conventions regarding punctuation. Most obvious is the way the semicolon is used at times.
Second, if no one objects I will remove the page limitations found in the "further reading" section. These are not citations so they don't require the specific limitations. One would hope readers will take in the works as a whole. Also, I am putting in a reference to Gerald McDermott's book which I believe is a good commentary on Edwards' approach to religious affections.Will3935 13:09, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind the page limitations issue. Someone put them in the citation format even though they are not citations. I'm too lazy to change the whole thing and will thus not add McDermott's book.Will3935 13:24, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Two More Things

message: The introduction of the entire article has a questionable assertion.  The sentence reads, "His fire-and-brimstone sermons, such as 'Sinners in the hands of an angry God,' emphasized the unworthiness of man in God's eyes, and the swooning and other behaviors in his audience caught him up in a controversy over 'bodily effects' of the Holy Spirit's presence."
It seems both out of place in the introduction and also inaccurate.  Readers of Jonathan Edwards tend to see "Sinners In the Hands of an Angry God" as a sort of anomaly.  Surely, he could be called a "fire-and-brimstone" preacher in the context of such a sermon, but it's a large leap to characterize him as exclusively such in the introduction of this article, because his other sermons are not all thematically similar to this most famous one, as the sentence immediately before states.  Also, the reference to controversy over the Holy Spirit does not belong in the introduction of this article.
A possible change, instead of the line quoted above: "Among his most famous sermons is 'Sinner in the Hands of an Angry God,' which emphasized the unworthiness of man in God's eyes."
Piponline 21:28, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable Introduction 

message: This article has a lot of potential, but that's also a way to say it needs a lot of work. I would like to see a section on Edwards' theology, which would sum up his core teachings, such as God's infinite regard for Himself (see The End for Which God Created the World). Maybe if I get the time I will begin working on it myself. I confess I have not read this article in its entirety, but I think that a lot of readers who only want to discover the main thrust of his teaching (and not so much the story of his life) would benefit from a theology section.
Furthermore, I would like to see the second paragraph under the "Legacy" section grow into a section titled "Continuing Influence", as Edwards is enjoying a resurgence among youth today, due largely in part to the work of Desiring God. The second paragraph under the "Legacy" section begins quite awkwardly and I don't know what to do with it yet. It says that Edwards' writings influence people to this day, but then moves on to talk about pre-WWII influence. I thought we were talking about "this day"?
--Wikitonic 04:46, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Needs a lot of work

message: It greatly troubles me that there is no mention of Joseph Hawkley in this article, which was obviously a huge controversy of his life that deserved to be mentioned...Why is this not in here?  It is 100% relevant to his life and his ministry and was important to his dismissal in Northampton.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.30.190.255 (talk) 20:30, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Joseph Hawkley

message: I presume the first "Jonathan Edwards" mentioned here is the Great Revivalist preacher and theologian. He did not actually live from 1703 to 2009 - after all, did any one really believe he lived to be 2006? I think his dates were 1703 to 1758. If any one knows them off by heart, s/he could change them, but I have some reference books in my house where I could check his dates. ACEOREVIVED (talk) 21:23, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Dates are wrong

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