Talk:Al Bowlly

message: This page is a very good start, however, it's unreferenced, and there's no Biography infobox.  That, plus some expansion will move it up to "B" Class.  Thanks! Belril 14:11, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
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message: I have started a major edit on this article and I will continue when I have more time. Article needs a thorough reworking, including a few more images. It also needs some decent references as the ones it has got are not that good. Cassianto (talk) 00:34, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article clean up. 

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message: Born in Mozambique to Greek and Lebanese parents, raised in South Africa, how is he British? He has a KBE. There is a lot missing from the article. More info from anyone? MartinezMD (talk) 14:15, 31 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  British background 

message: I have listed this article as a suspected copyright violation because Earwig's Copyvio Detector identifies a high probability of violation for three websites, however it is unclear whether any of the sites are the source of the text. I have listed the current version & have not gone through the history to see which editor or editors added the suspect text. Find bruce (talk) 21:28, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
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message: Al Bowlly's birth year has been disputed and speculated at in various biographies. Here are some of the speculations (none of them dispute the month or day of his birth):
"Albert Alick Bowlly was born on 7th January 1899 in Maputo, Mozambique which then was Laurenco Marques in Portuguese East Africa."
:Excerpt from "They Called Him Al: The Musical Life of Al Bowlly" 2010 (Pallett)
:https://books.google.com/books?id=PqxQSAAACAAJ&q=1899#v=snippet&q=1899&f=false
"It is certain that he was born in Lourenco Marques, on the East Coast of Africa. The date of his birth, however, is variously given as 1890, 1898, 1901--even 1906. On his death certificate, the date of birth is recorded as 7 January 1898: but then it appears that in middle age he was inclined to knock a few years off (who wants to know a crooner when he's fifty?). The weight of evidence seems to point to 1890, which is the date given in a printed concert programme for the Elizade Orchestra, at the Shepherds Bush Empire in 1929. According to Lew Stone, who had to fill in a work-permit form for Al in 1932, he was then secretly admitting to forty-two. His contemporaries from those days remember teasing him as 'the Daddy of the Band'; while they--Nat Gonella, Tiny Winters, Joe Crossman, Monia Liter--are now in their early seventies, Al Bowlly, if he were still alive, would be nearly ninety."
:Excerpt from "Al Bowlly" 1979 (Colin/Staveacre, 1)
"Al always maintained that his birthday was 7th January 1898, a date confirmed as correct by his family. However, it is believed by some that 1890 was nearer his true year of birth, ln the “Melody Maker” of 25th April 1941, the columnist who wrote the tribute after Al’s death said he was older than anyone thought. Lew Stone, with whom Al worked for many years, said that Al was 42 in 1932, and in 1938, in a conversation with a friend, Al claimed he was then 46. Al always managed to look younger than he was since he was very keen on physical culture and therefore hid his age well. Since his birth appears not to have been registered, we will probably never know Al Bowlly’s true birthday."
:Excerpt from "The Al Bowlly Story" 1975 (Pallett, 6)
:https://albowlly.blog/2020/08/22/your-48-page-pictorial-story-souvenir-of-al-bowlly-ray-pallett-april-1975-2/
--Falseinfinity (talk) 23:39, 3 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Birth Year

message: There is a citation for "The Al Bowlly Story". Memorylane.org.uk. Archived from the original on 4 February 2012. Retrieved 1 January 2012. Seriously?! The article it cites has absolutely zero citations of its own and no proof whatsoever of being any kind of authoritative source. Does anyone else agree? Please ping me when you respond. MagnoliaSouth (talk) 15:11, 6 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reliable sources 

message: There seems to be a lot of content about a minor figure in the online music scene known as 'The Caretaker' who has sampled some Bowlly recordings. Is this simple selfpromotion that needs to be severely pruned or entirely removed? 125.239.45.52 (talk) 07:48, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Caretaker