Talk:Ken Cuccinelli

message: I would appreciate it if whoever removed the reference to Ken's opposition to abortion and gun control would cut it out. I put it back in and will keep doing so no matter how often it is censored.
:As is your right, Mr. Mark; just don't run afoul of WP:3RR. Captain Zyrain 18:12, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference removed 

message: This article seems developed well beyond the stub class it now rates. Please assess to "C" or perhaps "B" in accordance with the criteria. Thanks. My76Strat 00:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have rated it B class, based on the substantial detail, supported by a large number of inline citations. The difficulty may be in preserving a WP:NPOV neutral point of view for a politician with unconventional views. --DThomsen8 (talk) 19:15, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stub? 

message: In reference to this edit war:   -- "Targeted" certainly comes with some extra baggage and isn't really NPOV.  Although it was edited by a sock, I'm not sure it was incorrect. jheiv talk contribs 06:41, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Saying investigated, rather than targeted implied that there was some merit to these baseless accusations that have come up repeatedly.  I seem to recall there being at least five previous investigations which have failed to find anything seriously wrong with Mann's work.  Maybe a wikilink to this article would explain the definition of long?  Sailsbystars (talk) 14:44, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Investigated / Targeted 

message: Let's avoid the WP:RECENTISM format and try to band together the different newsbites into actual prose. elle vécut heureuse à jamais (be free) 02:33, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coherence  

message: Hey all,
I've temporarily changed the subsection title from "Usury" to "Combating usury"; if the casual reader just skims the summary, the first assumption upon just seeing "usury" is likely that he was implicated in a scandal of some sort (like some of the other subsections.) As such, I highly recommend some sort of change in order to avoid a misleading title. "Combating usury" is the best I could come up with for now (I may change it again soon; if I do, I'll note it here), but it's not particularly neutral-sounding and could be worded much, much better. If anyone could come up with a better wording, it would be much appreciated.
Cheers, Zaldax (talk) 14:02, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Usury" vs. "Combating usury" 

message: Would the editors who disagree with this section please explain their reasoning? Instaurare (talk) 04:22, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for starting a topic here. User:Candleabracadabra wanted to discuss it on my talk page, but I think here is better. I have to leave for work soon, so won't be able to respond more until later. I did more closely review the last section added by Candleabracadabra earlier this morning, as well as the article you recently created, but then got caught up in other stuff. My take now is that something should go in this article. The issue is how much and what it should say. If you can be a bit patient while other editors participate in this discussion, that would be appreciated.--Bbb23 (talk) 12:45, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: What are the objections to what was there? What alternative text is proposed? Candleabracadabra (talk) 01:46, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you both for your patience. I thought others might contribute to this discussion, but they haven't. I've restored the material but not the same version. My objective was to include the material but (1) to give it more context and (2) at the same time cut down on the material that overpromotes Cuccinelli. See what you think. Obviously, changes can be discussed if you're unhappy with it.--Bbb23 (talk) 16:17, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no complaints about the material after you removed the promotional tone, but would note that we can surely replace the ref to breitbart.com with a similar story from a less-controversial source.  a13ean (talk) 18:39, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it; it wasn't needed anyway.--Bbb23 (talk) 19:17, 21 August 2013 (UTC)

text: I agree that the article is about Cuccinelli, not about Haynesworth, but you can't just start a section of the article saying that Cuccinnelli exonerated Joe Schmo. There has to be a minimal amount of context. As for the chronology, if it's wrong, it should be fixed. Why you don't take a look at that aspect?--Bbb23 (talk) 23:48, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I have taken a look at it and your version confuses the chronology. The first two sentences are also weird because they don't tie in at all to Cuccinelli who is the subject of this article. If you wanted context on the previous version fixed I wouldn't have had any objection to that being worked in. The Breitbart source could also have been removed. It's not clear what other objections you had? Why was the quote from Haynesworth about Cuccinelli removed? Candleabracadabra (talk) 00:27, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Sigh, I don't have much more to say. The idea is to tell Cuccinnelli's role without undue promotion and for it to make sense. There's already a glorifying quote from Haynesworth in "my" version.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:35, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

text: Multiple people have expressed objections to your version which adds overly promotional language.  Per WP:BRD please stop edit warring until there is a consensus on its inclusion.  a13ean (talk) 14:43, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Please be specific about which language you object to or alter it as you see fit. I have not edit warred, I have made changes as objections have been expressed and repeatedly communicated with Bbb23 seeking to find out specifically what he took issue with. My messages to him have so far been ignored although he did restore bits of stilted content after my postings to him seeking clarification of his views. I have expressed my objections to that version above and reincluded a superior version with the changes suggested by him and others above. Candleabracadabra (talk) 17:01, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In many cases it includes the same overly-promotional language as the Newsmax source, which appears to be a semi-official biography.  The first paragraph is fine, as it mostly covers the facts of the case.  The entire point of the second paragraph appears to be gratuitously promoting the subject of the article.  a13ean (talk) 18:47, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The bit sourced to Newsmax is: "Shawn Armbrust of the Innocence Project, who helped bring the Haynesworth case to Cuccinelli's office's attention, had feared Cuccinelli was trying to score political points by working on the case but said her fears "evaporated" when Cuccinelli invited Haynesworth to his office to personally apologize for the 27 years Haynesworth spent in jail." Is that correct? It isn't absolutely essential, but I think it's relevant and helpful. Aside from being sourced to Newsmax what is it about it that you object to? If it were cut down to say Cuccinelli apologized personally and his actions were lauded by Ambrust would that satisfy your concerns? Candleabracadabra (talk) 20:32, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a paraphrased statement from an article which is a near-hagiography of the subject.  Sticking with the basic facts is better as usual.  Your suggestion is a good start on that score.  Cuccinelli's comments on his own actions remain undue.  a13ean (talk) 20:47, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm okay with Cuccinelli's comment being removed. I don't think it adds anything. I will try to trim the Innocence Project bit if someone else doesn't get to it first when I'm on next.. Candleabracadabra (talk) 01:09, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haynesworth/exonerations section 

message: Input is sought in an RfC at Talk:Virginia gubernatorial election, 2013. Instaurare (talk) 06:55, 18 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC at [[Talk:Virginia gubernatorial election, 2013]] 

message: Elected as Virginia's 47th Attorney General in the November 2009 general election. From 2002 until January 16, 2010 he was a Republican member of the Senate of Virginia,
That would put Ken holding two different government posts in the same time period and assumably collecting two paycheck: which, right in the USA Constitution (and VA) is considered THEFT.
Also I remember in a legal dispute (still unsettled) with VA that Ken claimed to be the AG but I saw no claims of his also being a Virginia Senator.
It's about the money more than separation of power (the laws), and were even written about extensively by Thomas Jefferson in the Federalist - a fine NY publication in the time the forefathers published digests in.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.219.207.160 (talk • contribs) 20:34, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is not mistaken. While Cuccinelli was elected Attorney General in November 2009, he wasn't inaugurated into office until January 16, 2010, four days after completing his term as State Senator. --JayJasper (talk) 21:17, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Article must be Mistaken

message: As to Bob or Ken.  I see no article showing abuse of power of VA.  Parties at the Gov Mansion is not abuse.
If accepting money from a private firm wishing (getting) only publicity is considered fraud?  The throw all of Washington DC in prison and the key with it.  Obama first, solar panels (which DID get grant money).
After all "Citizens v. United" has allowed companies to literally bribe Congressman legally: brought to us by the Democrat's Supreme Court of the USA.
But it's the job of a good VA governor along with (his/her) commerce dept to help private industry born and run in VA.  Accepting money and providing aide without abuse of VA's power is certainly not only legal but tradition.  A little rule bending is well known as to political donations and commerce.
I HAVE read the indictment.  The indicters were not named in the filing.  Democrats si?  
What I do see for sure is NOT A SINGLE complaint of action that bob or ken used VA's power with respect to Star.  Did they insure a VA grant?  No.  Did they fail to collect tax?  Not a VA firm.
Accepting republican moneys for republic politics is all american.  And Democrats also get contributions from companies very much more questionable (ie, solar panels).
I'd be a little miffed Bob and Ken are from NJ and Star from Del.  However that is not fair in the discussion as this is a general happening across the usa, very non-specific.
If we investigate Hillary we'll find quickly her family members are flush with Grants i imagine...
"The UVa administrators expressed interest but did not agree to Star Scientific"  the exact words in the indictment show there was no action that used VA's power
Lastly if we start talking pay for play i have endless pay for play and abuse of power complaints about democrats in NVA, where i live - they are harassing and stalking me and  cheating in court to do so (even skipping court): as well as making immense and suspicious gains in the area - turning the area into a turf war where democrats use money printed in dc to win.
I now give NOTICE:
Use of VA courts for political obstruction or stalking officials and forcing special elections is specifically spelled out against  in the VA Constitution.
There is no such right to use law to do crime. (knowably false and inequitable defamation, and threats of imprisonment by a ruling party)
The accusers names are not mentioned.  I think i know who and if they are NVA democrats they know well I have a lawsuit waiting they skipped court on.
I accuse the democrats of doing so.
I don't like Bob spending on the other hand looking at democrats i won't look far to find golfing as the indictiment continually claims is suspicious.
(one is free to file honestly, and punished if filing dishonestly)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.219.207.160 (talk) 21:28, 27 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Star Scientific

message: Should probably add a note that KC is lead counsel for the Rand Paul/FreedomWorks lawsuit against the NSA.
http://www.sfgate.com/news/politics/article/Sen-Rand-Paul-sues-Obama-over-NSA-surveillance-5228423.php
172.251.172.174 (talk) 02:40, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  NSA Lawsuit w/ Rand Paul 

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message: Someone should put in the fact that Cuccinelli is now the chief delegate-hunter for Ted Cruz.  The Washington Post reported April 14, 2016, that:
"Even as Cruz eyes upcoming contests, his team is deep in the process of influencing who gets to be delegates in states that already have voted. Cruz’s Houston-based delegate team, led by former Virginia attorney general Ken Cuccinelli II, has largely left the process up to activists at the state level who are well-versed in local rules."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.39.245.62 (talk) 12:34, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
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message: Cuccinelli now as an official USCIS portrait:  It should be uploaded to WP and added to this article's infobox, and I would do so if I were more adept at uploading for commons. --1990'sguy (talk) 11:44, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
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:His appointment to the acting Director is considered by some scholars a loophole in the Federal Vacancies Reform Act.  There are three options a president may temporarily choose a senior government position.  The president may by choosing a "first assistant" to the vacant office, choose anyone currently holding a Senate confirmed position in the executive branch, or choosing a non-Senate confirmed senior employee working in the same agency for at least 90 of the last 365 days.  The deputy director, and assumed "first assistant", is an internal position created by executive branch regulation was only the acting director for a week before Cuccinelli.  The newly position of Principal Deputy Director was given to Cuccinelli.  He is the first person to hold the position for the agency.
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text: I believe that inserting material sourced to a post in a blog named lawfareblog.com is not compatible withWP:BLPSPS requirements. Peter Gulutzan (talk) 15:16, 26 July 2019 (UTC)
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message: I think it is pragmatically deceptive to use the title Principal Deputy Director in the lede. Even if Cuccinelli concurrently has that title while serving as Acting Director, he is directing the agency and has the job title to match. Cuccinelli isn't "deputy" in USCIS to anybody but himself. I think you cannot find other examples of Acting Directors who aren't described as such in their Wikipedia pages. (I just checked a few.) For heaven's sake, the three House committee chairs who objected to the legality of this appointment addressed him as Acting Director in their letter. 
This might become moot now, with Cuccinelli's next appointment. But as long as this job is in the lede, I don't see the point in the deceptive wording. -- M.boli (talk) 17:58, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Principal Deputy vs. Acting Director of USCIS in the lede 

message: The current version of the page incorrectly refers to Cuccinelli as both the "Acting Director" of USCIS and the "Acting Deputy Secretary." But this is not accurate. "Acting" official is a specific title that has legal ramifications under the Federal Vacancies Reform Act. "Acting" officials may perform any function that is in the sole authority of the main official (DHS Secretary or Director of USCIS) and that cannot be delegated to any other government official. Officials can only serve in an Acting role for 210 days after the date of the vacancy, after which they become the "Senior Official Performing the Duties Of" the job. . 
While Cuccinelli was indeed appointed as Acting Director, because 210 days have passed since L. Francis Cissna left the job, he is no longer able to claim that tile, and is listed both as "Senior Official Performing the Duties Of the Deputy Secretary of Homeland Security" and the Senior Official Performing the Duties of the USCIS Director, according to DHS itself. . Therefore, it is incorrect to refer to him as the Acting Director or as the Acting Deputy Secretary, as those are positions he does not hold (and for Deputy Secretary, which he never held). Razzmatazzle (talk) 21:19, 7 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Acting" vs. Senior Official Performing the Duties Of 

message: This infobox is a mess we need to simplify it. The titles are too long and there are multiple different term periods for the “Senior Official Performing the Duties of the Director of United States Citizenship and Immigration Services”. BigRed606 (talk) 06:16, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox