Talk:Crimean Khanate

message: 151.203.119.15, you seem to imply that Great Soviet Encyclopedia does not meet your criteria of a reputable source. Please list what in your opinion would make a source reputable. Please list sources which meet such criteria of yours. 
Please DO NOT remove article attribution. The article indeed incorporates text from public domain GSE. Do you doubt that the article incorporates it? If not, your removal of the notice is borderline vandalism.
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--Gene s 07:48, 2 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  A reputable source is "The Crimean Tatars: Studies of the Nationalities in the U.S.S.R.: Number 166" by Alan W. Fisher. Written by a serious historian, with no conflict of interest on the subject matter. It is not open source, but it is available on most bookstores, Amazon for example. Would be useful to scrutinize the contents of GSE. 68.160.186.38 10:20, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: The Crimean Khanate was known for frequent devastating raids into Ukraine and Russia. For a long time, until the early 18th century The Crimean Khanate maintained massive slave trade with the Ottoman Empire and the Middle East. One of the most known and important trading ports and slave markets was Kefe. A constant threat from The Crimean Khanate supported the appearance of cossackdom. Crimean tatars owning tactics of attacks in perfection, choosed a way on watersheds. The main way to Moscow was Muravski shliach, gone from crimean Perekop up to Tula between the rivers of two basins, Dnieper and Northern Donets. Having gone deep in the populated area on 100-200 kilometers, Tatars turned back and, having unwrapped wide wings, looted and captured slaves. Annually Moscow mobilized in the spring up to 65 thousand soldiers for boundary service. The defensive lines were applied, consisting of a circuit of fortresses and towns. Cossacks and young noblemen were in structure of sentry and patrol services that observed crimean tatars in steppe. To protect of invasions of The Crimean Khanate the Russian cities of Orel in 1566 and Voronezh in 1586 have been founded.
ps. Dear author Black Sea, do not privatize this article and do not transform real history of Crimean khanate into false propagation. The Crimean Khanate was the aggressive state. Ben-Velvel 00:50, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Crimean Khanate invasions of Russia and Poland(Ukraine) (source:[[Vasily_Klyuchevsky]], "The course of Russian History", vol.2)

message: Would the Crimean Khaganate be a better name? Just asking. --Irpen 01:05, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Khanate or Khaganate

message: I'm having trouble seeing the relevance of the painting in the article to the subject matter.radek 19:27, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Painting

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Golden Horde.gif

message: :File:Crimean Khanate 1600.gif was uploaded in 2005. It isn't terrible, and I am sure it was made in best faith. 
Still, it isn't referenced, and it would be better to base it on some published maps. Specifically, it isn't made clear on what basis the borders of the Crimean Khanate in 1600 are reconstructed, and why or in what sense the Kuban Nogai territory is included. 
I now included reference to a map dated 1729 which shows the borders of the Crimean Khatate at that point (more than a century later), and it may be better to redraw the overview map based on this reference (or else find an actual source for the situation in 1600).
--dab (𒁳) 12:16, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I know this is an old thread, but I agree that the map (AGF or not) is unsourced and a breach of WP:NOR. Good faith WP:SYNTH is SYNTH, non-the-less, so I'm going BOLD and removing it. The user who uploaded it doesn't seem to have been around any wiki projects for over a decade, so there's not much point in querying the source/s. It's a nice 'wish list' map for someone to create, but it really does need to be supported by RS in order to make sense of it. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:21, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Following this line of inquiry, the flags and emblems are equally - if not more - problematic. The blue and gold/yellow flag and emblem strike me as being modern/revisionist 'interpretations' based on the colours of the modern Ukrainian flag. The other emblem looks just as dubious as it incorporates the Cyrillic 't'... which I sincerely doubt was used by the Khanate. Again, without sourcing, and due to big question marks popping up around the authenticity of these flags and emblems, I think they should be eliminated from the infobox. Any thoughts? --Iryna Harpy (talk) 04:40, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: The map

message: why is Grand Principality of Moscow(more known as Muscovy in english) regarded as a Nogai horde (on the map)? Muscovy was formed from northern principalities: Vladimir,Novgorod,Perm.. and didn't exist in 1600 (it turned into the Tsardom of Russia in 1547) Nogais were mainly Golden Horde and their descendants: Crimean Khanate - one of them (hence their name comes from Nogai - general/ruler of the Golden Horde: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nogai_Khan )
basically north-east of Crimean Khanate have been a bunch of other Golden Horde descendants (Kazakh Khanate & Khanate of Astrakhan directly touching)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gendalv (talk • contribs) 05:02, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Grand Nogay Horde?

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message: Why does it say the Crimean Khanate lasted the longest? The Kazakh Khanate seems to have lasted longer.
-Haydossy  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Haydossy (talk • contribs) 01:54, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Lasted longest?

message: I've edited Crimean Khanate article by standing Halil İnalcık,who is a Turkish historian with Crimean Tatar origin, Great Russian Encyclopedia and Russian Wikipedia. I've changed inaccurate dates and added Nogai language which is very important for the Khanate as common language. I can understand why you deleted flag but i can't deleting reason of the others. Could you explain me why did Vif12vf delete the infos i have added? Ultimete (talk) 07:36, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , the Russian Wikipedia, or any other Wikipedia for that matter, is not a reliable source. You'll need to find different sources - perhaps the ones the Russian Wikipedia cites. I don't see any issues with using İnalcık's works and the Great Russian Encyclopedia. Alaexis¿question? 14:05, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The capitals, the flag and others