Talk:Peorð

message: Table of contents? Koro Neil (talk) 10:30, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: from Rundata, inscriptions to be checked for pertho:
 Sm 119 M ia=rnsto=rp 
 Vg 86 M pætær * girthi mik 
 Vg 129 M (æ)skil : læt st(i)n : th(æ)--- -(p)ris---(i)su(i)thurs---rasi---(u)------m * i(o)=nipris(th)fil--th(i)(s)p--r(th)us --tti thim : til r(o) : 
 Vg 207 U futharkgw ******** hnijïp(z)... **** tbeml(ñ)(o)d ****** 
 Vg 241 M (p)nm(u)ninth(p)hh 
 Vg 269 $M §A b(æ)(t)a ÷ pa-iæ(a)-ia... §B ...-ibot------r--(a) 
 G 9 M §P [...k : stulpa : a(k)s nano...] §Q [...k : stulpa : afs-n-] 
 G 44 M [+ akopk : liat : kira ...nabu : than : sum : bithin : furir : imiana : itin : balir : -ni : runa : atbik : botuithi : -uli :] 
 G 49 $M §A [-i--in ÷ fyrir ÷ nikulasa ÷ sial] §B [it(o) uiki pas---] 
 G 139 M §A si up at a=uhun : run §B ... §C ... 
 G 148 M thioki * kaupi * a mik
 G 381 M kaupi : skrifa=dhi mik 
 DR 142 M asir (o)p... 
 DR 169 M thorstæin bræ... ræist runar thessar a pikisdahum ... han -af(th)i mikit gama=n af tonom um mo=rhen(e)n th(e)r 
 DR M19  asur pai i lundi 
 DR M20  asur pa lunti 
 DR EM85;133 $M iiithiithiiiiithiipiii 
 DR EM85;434A M topi 
 DR AUD1998;300 M? ?th=(k)is??? ¶ po=thu (:) ?ssn 
 N 75 $M r : p : k ÷ iii sss ttt iii lll 
 N 164 M ---r * (o)(n) * (g)ripr * (g)unar 
 N 298 M ilo u(e)n(:)r tuan thr hulf oisk ÷ ok fpkl thr t(e)k tho(g)u 
 N 299 M hip--- 
 N 304 M hika ihkiporh (th) 
 N 355 M pati 
 N 392 M loka=r fa=l loka=r sin i loka=rspo=nom 
 N 511 M ...- up(l)iotr| |ræist runa=r thesar 
 N 720 M palne a 
 N 765 M pona 
 N A1 M §A --glamar(o)--(r)(a)(i)(l)-(i)naohao(o)(g)lama=rku §B -----tha-(m)thi--pppalfai-- §C + a + imisanma=ko=u §D + agl(a) ma=ræm(i)taim(æ)r-----f(o)glama=r-- §E agla m(o)=(r)mi(t)(a)imæ + §F airia ÷ miso=n 
 N A5 M §A  ÷2÷2÷2÷2÷2÷2÷2÷2÷2÷2 §B (u)(i)olkp(u)sisteiust(y)isis §C - rku=(u)snukausmælkust §D itragramalonamui(n) 
 N A59 M suanpora- 
 N A88 M ur(th) * * b(u)ra=p 
 N A121 $M §A ÷2 ka=th(a=n=n)`n´a=th`k´m`a´a=th`k´a=thth=ththntha=thnp ÷2 §B ÷2 nkhpna=tha=thn(a=n=n)my`k´rp÷2n÷2 §C (y) + kr`k´a=thka=thth=ththynhpnra 
 N A292 M ...k * misak * eth aptinako 
 N B200 M §A thorkæl anpiorh(s)ta=fan §B thor(i)r §C halstæin : anpion : guna-(r)- §C gu=nnar ÷ pupahæinrækirr(-=r)(u)n 
 N B205 M §A ala=rthra=fbrimum ¶ fo=lkua=rthr : a=fa=kapma=rkua=rthra=f(b)a=u(u)(f)- §B ah(e) a=f a=l=labogo=k- 
 N B288 M -s(e)ta * tho=rlæifr (i)sopr 
 N B293 M th=tha=l(p)i 
 N B308 M (m)ynta : (e)k : myklu o=pda=r miô=th:ra=nci koma na=la
 N B314 M (a)-(-)-(k)(u)nt(e)k---(æ)-(k)-(u) * a(u)thun-p * 
 N B391 M mtpkrgb  iiiiiii sssssss ttttttt iiiiiii lllllll 
 N B436 M -(p)pppppppppp- 
 N B485 M pkn
 N B647 M (f)(a)(f)(o)-o-o--o--a---th-- §B fufafefifothothathithu §C fund ÷ pund ÷ rund ÷ gund ÷ lund ÷ hind ¶ sund ÷ thond
 N B652 M §A kuthion §B pan 
 IS IR;149 M? §A ... ...(l)ir hlad=kerdr thorlaks dot §B ... ...ir (*) ioceip * maknus * son (*) bid * fyrir 
 Br OR2 $SENTIDA (n) (u)(k)(f) <(l)/(m)>(p)i-ii 
most of these are medieval (post-Younger-Futark) inscriptions, but some should be checked as they look old, especially
 N 75 $M r : p : k ÷ iii sss ttt iii lll 
 N B391 M mtpkrgb  iiiiiii sssssss ttttttt iiiiiii lllllll 
in rows: 
 Ög 178 $U [* tuwatuwa * futharkgw : hnijïpzs : tbemlñod]
 Vg 207 U futharkgw ******** hnijïp(z)... **** tbeml(ñ)(o)d ******
 Nä 10 U * (t)uwatuwa * futharkgw : hnijïpzs : tbemlñod :
 Bo NIYR;7 M futhor{K}hniastbmlyøkhp : ion : a mik
 G 88 U §A (f)utharkg(w)hni(j)pezstbemlñdo ? §B su(e)us
dab (ᛏ) 21:55, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: possible perthos

message: Doesn't this postulate that the name is given in a form which somehow predates Grimm's *p > f, but *t > þ has happened twice? The t of fart is a Germanic one, not a PIE one. Germanic *t is PIE *d or glottalised *t' (cf Greek πορδη). Koro Neil (talk) 10:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. A p in Old English is a p in Modern English. It seems to me that this "theory" has been conceived by someone who desperately needed a good laugh. Steinbach (talk) 22:49, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Fart' theory

message: Another theory out there somewhere is that it means "hearth" (heorð), with the /p/ added just because they needed to find a word that fit in there somehow.  If this theory is true, the choice of peorð is as arbitrary as cweorð.  However, this theory cannot explain Gothic pairþra, so at most it was a folk etymology, not a new coinage. —Soap— 18:47, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Hearth

message: it could be a chesspiece, since ferz is a word for the queen in chess. But this theory is also weak, since chess was not widely known in western Europe when runes were used, and the runic name would be much older than chess if it is ultimately the same word as ceirt . Basically, every theory has at least one weakness.  —Soap— 13:04, 18 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The word for chess-piece is ultimately borrowed from middle-eastern languages, and it's very doubtful whether Chess was known in rune-using areas by circa 500 A.D... AnonMoos (talk) 23:27, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: chesspiece