Talk:Marie Laveau

message: It is illegal to "draw" XXX on Madame Laveau's tomb. This practice has no base in the voodoo religion and was something that was started by tourists. People who deface the tomb can face a large fine and even jail time — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.158.218.235 (talk) 08:29, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: http://appl003.lsu.edu/unv002.nsf/PressReleases/PR1721
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 4.153.29.60 (talk) 17:44, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth record info 

message: I do not advocate an article about this; but, I do think that it should be mentioned someplace.  Possibly this could be researched by others.
"Bloody Mary" Mary Millan claims to be a voodoo priestess, as well as ancestry by Robert the Bruce, Robert   Bruce, Bloody Mary, Marie Laveau,...
She claims frequent communication w/ Marie Laveau{'s ghost}.
I do wonder whether any of this can be certified.
Thank You.
< http://bloodymarystours.com/biography.html >;
< http://72.14.253.104/search?q=cache:7YGQ2RnihLgJ:bloodymarystours.com/biography.html+site:bloodymarystours.com+%22priestess%22+%22%22+%22%22+%22%22&hl=en&gl=as&ct=clnk&cd=1 >.
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thread_title:  Please [[sign]]!!!! [[%c2%a1]] [[%c2%bf]] [[ %7e%7e%7e%7e ]] 

message: Heard this song the other day with "..Marie voodoo Laveau.." in the chorus , sounded like it was from the '70s (I believe it was on cable radio).  Soulful, not country.  I checked on iTunes and couldn't find anything that sounded quite like it.  Any guesses?  I'm not suggesting it be added to the Music section here, which seems rather long and somewhat tangental trivia.--Justfred 06:17, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Answered my own question.  Redbone, "The witch queen of New Orleans", 1971.  Already referenced on the page.--Justfred 06:05, 3 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually, adding such material is usually considered trivia and shouldn't be added without proper referencing. I'd be a very happy to see more added to the main body of the article, with proper referencing. Wildhartlivie (talk) 21:45, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Song "Marie Voodoo Laveau" 

message: Marie did not play in the Wizard of Oz, and she was never married to someone named Justin Samford. 
I don't know if I am allowed to just delete these lines or not, so someone with powers, please do. 
Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doubleas2380 (talk • contribs) 19:16, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: For the sake of completeness regarding the list of mentions in "modern fiction", Marie Laveau (as well as Voodoo and New Orleans) plays an important role in the 1993 computer game "Gabriel Knight: Sins of the fathers" by Sierra. This is how I heard of her. You can even "visit" her tomb in the game. 217.87.4.215 (talk) 19:49, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Computer games are not part of modern fiction, they are games. Wildhartlivie (talk) 06:43, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Role in Computer Game 

message: Re: "She took a lover, Christophe (Louis Christophe Dumesnil de) Glapion, with whom she lived in a common-law marriage until his death in 1835."
There is no common law marriage in Louisiana, and as far as I know, there never has been.  Louisiana has wacky laws...people say it's the "Napoleonic Code" but a recent law graduate told me that's a common misconception and that Louisiana follows a French code rather than an English one (the rest of the US follows English, from what I understand).  Should this sentence be rephrased to reflect accuracy?  Is there another word for a partnership in which the couple considers themselves informally married?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.38.21.34 (talk) 05:25, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: In the state of Louisiana a common law marriage is seven years. As a lifelong resident I'm sure. I don't know what you are speaking of. I would guess you are not from the parts.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.143.87 (talk) 03:15, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, there has never been common law marriage in Louisiana. It explicitly says so in Common-law_marriage_in_the_United_States, the relevant wikipedia article, and I have no reason to doubt it, since Louisiana civil law isn't based on English common law. See also http://family.findlaw.com/marriage/state-laws-common-law-marriage.html Tarchon (talk) 00:01, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Common Law Marriage? 

message: The article is riddled with phrases like:
* was said
* claimed
* believe/believed
* reportedly
* suggested
* supposed 
* may be
* (some) assert
The associated text is things we don't know.  Even for some things supported by source(s), the sources themselves use words like the above.  The number of existing inline annotations is staggering. This article needs to be redrafted by a skilled writer and historian, keeping or stating only what can be verified by valid sources like birth and death certificates, Louisiana/New Orleans historical records, and accounts of historians or writers from that time.Sbalfour (talk) 21:07, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: @Sbalfour Agreed. 2601:205:8300:E670:747B:A205:B9A1:5B42 (talk) 01:11, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  article not scholarly in tone and content -> rewrite/source? 

message: Hegel was a contemporary of Laveau, and if anybody who wasn't quite famous had a song, a comic book, or a computer game about Hegel, that might not be germane, because that might not have much to do with Hegel's standing in intellectual history.  For better and for worse, Laveau belongs to the history of ideas, in which rumors, jokes, and fantasies mix with an amount—sometimes a small amount—of hard data. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Francvs (talk • contribs) 20:32, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intellectual history and the history of ideas 

message: Jacques and Santiago are variants of the same name. Santiago is Spanish for Saint Jacques basically.
Tarchon (talk) 00:01, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Husband's Name

message: Is there any evidence that Jacques Paris was murdered by Delphine Lalaurie in real life and not just American Horror Story?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.16.163.254 (talk) 22:12, 14 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death of Jacques Paris 

message: i think the picture of Marie Laveau should be changed to suit her actual appearance. The picture for her now is portraying Marie Laveau as light skinned woman when her heritage really would give her dark skin.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.212.91 (talk) 09:05, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: She was of mixed racial/ethnic ancestry, and that is a picture with licensing that we are able to use. If you are able to provide another picture that fits copyright policy, then feel free to add it. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 00:32, 7 July 2017 (UTC)

text: I agree also. As far as her complexion, because she was mixed doesn't always present itself. Some mixed raced people are dark as unmixed, then you have some black people unmixed that ARE very light, which may be from a relative from way back, perhaps a white master over a slave, or maybe a mutual consensual relationship. No one knows, now I guess. Anyway there are too many images on the internet claiming to be her yet the images look nothing like one another and I certainly don't know what she looked like either so cannot choose an image. Perhaps there is a good physical description of her somewhere? I don't know, hopefully having more people on this, will help somehow like it does in other articles? TIA IrishLas (talk) 17:31, 10 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Changing of Marie Laveau's picture

message: yous best  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 40.132.51.220 (talk) 13:56, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voodoo 

message: Additional subsections regarding 1) widely held beliefs and 2) myths surrounding Marie Laveau should be made in order to provide a more comprehensive understanding of her life. Black history in general lacks verifiability, due in part to the institutions of the past and the wide spread illiteracy in black communities: there was no one to record and preserve history, especially when it came to biographical histories. Black history was often passed from generation to generation. For this reason I think that adding these subsections would be beneficial to public knowledge. The information in these subsections should be held to certain standards, such as: 
* come from multiple reliable sources, ie. encyclopedia, newspaper archives from the era, biographies, etc.
* is widely held belief
* provide context on why it is debatable as fact
* put forth in away that can not be misconstrued as fact
* etc.
 
Marie Laveau's life is shrouded in mystery, which in part, contributes to her historical importance, and as such should be included in the article. 
Ms.Soperfec (talk) 22:11, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  New subsections??? 

message: Opening discussion on whether to remove pop culture, and just leave the Artistic legacy. None of the popular cultural items in this section have citations. I propose removing everything except the one item (Renee Stout's work on Laveau) which is cited. It seems like this has become a section for trivial mentions of Laveau that really have little to do with her important life and work. Things can be added back if references can be found for the unsourced material. Netherzone (talk) 16:17, 10 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I will be working on this article for a class project over the next couple of weeks. I will work on identifying sources for items including in this section. --Ms.Soperfec (talk)  — Preceding undated comment added 15:03, 20 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artistic legacy and popular culture 

message: — Assignment last updated by Uncg24 (talk) 21:35, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: ARH 371_The TransAtlantic_Cross-Cultural Representations

message: I can find absolutely no corroboration that such a person ever existed. Furthermore, "salope" in French means "slut," so the name is highly suspect. In English the name would be something like Mary Slutty. Until someone can provide a source that definitively establishes her existence, I'm going to remove the parenthetical reference to her and Sanité Dédé, another figure of dubious authenticity (there's a picture online purported to be her grave, but it's too blurry to read, other than that, no real biographical info). Mpaniello (talk) 07:39, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead an added this back in. Marie Saloppé is in the provided source, and she and Dédé are in other sources about Laveau dating back at least to the WPA oral histories. That doesn't mean they aren't apocryphal, but they are attested. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 13:13, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: What source, exactly? Could you please point me to the correct item in the Sources section? Attested by whom, specifically? Mpaniello (talk) 15:22, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I've fixed the given Encyclopedia Britannica ref to target the info about Marie Saloppé and added info about the so-called Vodou "queens" and "doctors", or priestesses and priests, sourced to the article by Richard Brent Turner, "The Haiti-New Orleans Vodou Connection: Zora Neale Hurston as Initiate Observer" in the Journal of Haitian Studies. Carlstak (talk) 16:17, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Yep, just got the notification. Thank you! Mpaniello (talk) 16:26, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: My pleasure. Carlstak (talk) 16:39, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marie Salopé 

message: At this time, the United States did not exist as such.
Marie Laveau
* Born: September 10, 1801. New Orleans, Provincia de La Lusiana, Spanish Empire.
* Died: June 15, 1881, New Orleans, Louisiana, Kingdom of France.
95.20.52.38 (talk) 18:40, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: No. By September 1801, New Orleans was under Spanish administration, but the territory had been restored to the French First Republic by the Third Treaty of San Ildefonso (1800) and the Treaty of Aranjuez (1801). (France didn't take formal control until Pierre-Clément de Laussat arrived in March 1803.) The Sale of Louisiana happened shortly thereafter and by year-end the territory was in U.S. hands. By 1812, Louisiana was admitted as a state. In 1861, the state seceded to join the Confederacy; after the Civil War, in July 1868, the state was readmitted to the Union. —Carter (Tcr25) (talk) 19:26, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoa, I missed that part, lol! There also hadn't been a Kingdom of France since 1848. By 1881 it was (again) a republic, though it had also had its second imperial period (under Napoleon III) between 1852 and 1870. Mpaniello (talk) 19:35, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: What is clear is that Marie Laveau was not born in the United States, so she was not a native of United States.--95.20.52.38 (talk) 19:44, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  She was born in the Spanish Empire and died in the Kingdom of France