Template talk:DLR RDT

message: I've added the symbols to make the elevated sections clear, using the principle that 'elevated' in the case of the DLR means 'raised up on stilts'. Where the line section is just on a pre-existing bridge of brickwork and earth fill, then imho that is still a ground-level feature as you can't walk underneath it. It also makes clear that whilst the earliest format of the DLR was mostly elevated (in some form) the current network isn't as all the newer sections - except for part of the Silvertown link - are at ground level. There still need to be a few symbols created for the elevated junctions. --AlisonW (talk) 11:47, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would have to disagree, and say that route diagrams should use the principle that 'elevated' means running above ground level, ignoring the fact that you may or may not be able to walk underneath the elevated track. --Kevin Steinhardt (talk) 12:34, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well the difference is only a few stations; Tower Gateway, Shadwell and Limehouse. --AlisonW (talk) 13:06, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: uDSTR icons           have been uploaded: no excuse now for not adding the embankments (i.e. solid elevated structures you can't walk underneath). Useddenim (talk) 17:58, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: "elevated" sections

message: Should OSI be shown in this diagram? For example, is it necessary to show all of the OSI for Tower Gateway? --TBM10 (talk) 21:36, 3 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  OSI 

message: moved from User talk:Useddenim
See eg. here: https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/51.54093/-0.00357 - the branch from Poplar tracks incoming from the southwest terminate at platforms 4ab, several metres before the through tracks of the Canning Town-Stratford Int'l branch at platforms 16-17.  — ⟨✆∣µzdzisław∣⚒⟩ 14:59, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Nonetheless, the DLR still passes under eight tracks at Stratford. Useddenim (talk) 15:38, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm inclined to agree with , since other lines aren't shown on the DLR diagram. Jc86035 (talk) 15:51, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

text:  Thank you. The tracks shown on the diagram do not intersect. Also if other tracks should be included in the diagram, it should happen in other places as well, making the diagram incredibly complex. By the way, I have just committed a complete overhaul of the diagram, to put Stratford termini on top, in line with the official TfL maps, and so that no currently served routes U-turn on the diagram (previously the Stratford-Canary Wharf/Lewisham route did). It does not show an intersection at Stratford, but can be easily edited to feature it, if that emerges as consensus.  — ⟨✆​∣µzdzisław∣⚒​⟩ 18:04, 7 September 2017 (UTC)

text:  The diagram underwent an evolution complex enough that any of the four variants treated literally and exactly is not option any more, especially #1 and #2. What's currently in the diagram is reasonably close to #4 though.  — ⟨✆​∣µzdzisław∣⚒​⟩ 15:56, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  DLR layout at Stratford 

message: I've noticed already before that, as opposed to Canning Town, there actually is a CPI at Poplar: trains from Central London to Canning Town and beyond call at platform 1 across from trains from Canary Wharf and beyond to Stratford at platform 2; their reverses call respectively at platforms 4 and 3, also opposite one another. I didn't bring this up (e.g. while arguing for removal of CPI at Canning Town) because I had no idea how to include it in the diagram without blowing it up. Now I have the idea and it's shown in the inset. It's very obviously just an idea at this point, but I'd like to have some discussion before going ahead with e.g. drawing new icons, which might be necessary here.
One obvious question is where should the "lines" cross—to the left or right of the station itself—and if the crossing should be flat or grade-separated. As usual with CPI stations, the reality of what crosses where cannot be fully represented if the lines are shown as single strokes (and not pairs thereof). In reality, both tracks from Canary Wharf fly over the Canning Town to Central London track to the west of the station itself, and to the east of it both tracks to Stratford pass under the Central London to Canning Town track (see http://cartometro.com/cartes/metro-tram-london/). I'd go with flat crossing to the right of the station, partly because then the strokes cross at an angle sufficiently close to a right one, so that the routing is clear.
Even if this shape of the lines is acceptable, some icon fixes are in order. Or, alternatively, maybe there are present ones that would work here, but I'd like to request some help looking for them. First, the CPI itself: presently the mock-up uses  where the strokes are too long. The edit is obvious and one that I could certainly do, but... I have no idea how the icon should be named, although  would be my guess. As for the elevation borders to the left of the station, I frankly have no idea how to proceed, what icons could be helpful here, and very possibly drawing new ones nicely would be a little bit challenging for me.
Calling  for superior knowledge of the icons.  — ⟨✆​∣µzdzisław∣⚒​⟩ 17:00, 13 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  CPI at Poplar 

message: RE: Silvertown (proposed) - is there a reference for this? As far as I'm aware, a site for a station was not safeguarded (unlike Thames Wharf DLR station) - furthermore, there are no plans in TfL's Business Plan for this, or in Newham's Local Plan - which shows the safeguarded Thames Wharf station. The archived webpages on the extension mention Thames Wharf, but not this "Silvertown" station
RE: Docklands Light Railway extension to Thamesmead - should this be added, given the current plans to extend via Beckton to Thamesmead?  Turini2 (talk) 21:31, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silvertown and Thamesmead extension