Template talk:IRAs

message: I've created an expanded template, that's more up to date with Template customs (uses the standard navbox template) an is a more complete navigational box for Armed Irish Republican groups. It can be found for now at . I'd like to replace the current  with it, or with a template with similar comprehensiveness. Erin Go Braghtalk 09:37, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Irish People's Liberation Organisation are missing, and ideally I'd put the Provos before the INLA to maintain the chronology. Once that's taken care of, I'm in favour. One Night In Hackney303 09:50, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've done both of those now, and added the Society of United Irishmen to boot. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Erin Go Bragh (talk • contribs) 20:01, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm looking at the United Irish Uprising in Newfoundland, ad thinking it's too insignificant? I dunno how we'd put it in there. Unless the whole thing is redone. Erin Go Braghtalk 20:10, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not convinced that needs to go on there.  I re-organised the template slightly, as organisations split over two lines looked messy and the template is the same size if they are on one line each anyway. One Night In Hackney303 20:12, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Any objections to the new template? One Night In Hackney303 06:52, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Couple more older organisation need to be added. Too much focus on relatively meaningless modern incarnations.--Vintagekits 10:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing is stopping you from adding them, or list them here and I will? One Night In Hackney303 23:05, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expanded Template 

message: Hello,
So as to prevent an edit war, I thought it best to discuss this. Both articles on the Official and Provisional IRAs describe their organizations as having ceased operations, so I feel it fit to edit the template to reflect this. Your thoughts?
GrahamNoyes (talk) 18:10, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The other groups in the template do not use any active dates, they all go by dates of existence. If you try and chance the 1922-1969 IRA to say 1962 (when they effectively ceased to be active) it will probably confuse the reader no end, and make them think that IRA ceased to exist in 1962, and two others sprang up in 19y69. O Fenian (talk) 23:27, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: New discussion

message: The years after each organisation are completely inconsistent, and even incorrect. For example after Official IRA there is (1969–1971), but their ceasefire didn't start until 1972 and that didn't result in activity stopping, their post-ceasefire violence is well documented. In contrast Provisional IRA's years are listed as 1969–2005 which isn't that unreasonable, if other organisations are going to be held to the same standard. But then you have Continuity IRA (1986–present), but while they might have come into existence in 1986 they weren't active for years afterwards. Then there's Óglaigh na hÉireann (Real IRA splinter group) (2009–2018), but they were formed in 2005/6 and became active in 2009. And so on...
It seems to be the dates are problematic. The first date for each organisation is generally (but not always) the date they were formed. But the second date isn't the date they ceased to exist (if applicable), it's the date they ceased to be active (generally speaking). It doesn't make sense to mix dates in this way. I believe the simplest way to resolve all these problems is to remove the dates completely, any objections? If objecting, please provide some kind of solution as to how the problems can be revolved. FDW777 (talk) 12:26, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed the dates from all organisations. I was tempted to leave them in for earlier organisations, but that would only invite people to try and "fix" the inconsistency by adding them for the later organisations. FDW777 (talk) 14:36, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Years