Talk:Milkor MGL

message: Over the next little while I will be expanding this page to include information on the other versions of the Milkor MGL, including the USMC M32, which is technically different from the MK1. I also plan to move this page to a more appropriate title (such as "Milkor MGL"), and change the spec table to a shorter, simpler version (such as the one used at M203). Comments are appreciated! - Tronno ( t | c ) 00:49, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The work-in-progress page is here: User:Tronno/Milkor MGL - Tronno ( t | c ) 03:15, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

text: The rewrite is done. I've scrapped everything but the final paragraph, replaced the table, and removed two unsourced images. Tell me what you think! - Tronno ( t | c ) 19:32, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks sharp.  Nice job--Looper5920 21:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
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message: Very nice article but factually incorrect in a few instances.
The 40mm Multi shot MGL was indeed originally developed in South Africa. The design work was done by Mr. A.C. Piek. He developed it over a period of 10 years, inspired by the movie "Wild Geese" more or less in the late seventies and early eighties. You can check this with a professor at the University of Stellenbosch, Danie Els - we believe he works in the Engineering Faculty and he wrote a masters thesis on the 40mm system in those years. He may have done the masters thesis, but Mr. A.C. Piek did the design, AND development. Mr. A.C. Piek was instrumental in the design and registered a patent with regard to it and was subsequently awarded the manufacturing rights. Milkor was and still is the company that Mr. A.C. Piek started and used to develop the weapon as was the case with other related weapons, like the "Stopper".
All patents with regard to the design lapsed some years ago and since 1998, a number of multi shot grenade launchers from countries such as Russia, Croatia, Bulgaria and Turkey were seen at international defense exhibitions.
Milkor (Pty) Ltd never had any marketing responsibility for the product. The weapon was developed for the South African Defense Force and the first sale was to the South African Defense Force through Armscor.
International marketing and sales was done by Armscor in the years 1985 to 1991 by one Andre Louw. In 1991 the marketing was taken over by Denel and still done by Andre Louw in the Mechem division of Denel until 1995. In this year Louw established a company called Milkor Marketing (Pty) Ltd and this company was responsible for exclusively and single handedly creating a market domineering position for the South African product - adding 20 new clients to the list of ten as in 1995. Export records for this product should be available with the South African authorities.
If you do a check on patents and trademarks in South Africa today you will find no valid patents on the design of the MGL and you will find that the word "MGL" is a registered trade mark in the name of Milkor(Pty)Ltd. This is still an ongoing legal battle in South-Africa and internationally.
You seem to be very knowledgeable on the subject. The information you posted here should definitely be added to the main article, but please remember to keep edits NPOV, and cite sources for your info. - Tronno ( t | c ) 15:08, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Dare I ask for a source? Koalorka (talk) 00:53, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
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message: Felipe i havent see a colombian soldier with the MGL, what I have seen is the guerrillas (idk if FARC or AUC) carrying it, in the common image of the news with a group of soldiers walking by a wired fence in the zona desmilitarizada (i have no idea how that goes) of caqueta--ometzit<col> 14:46, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
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message: *This weapon appears in the 2007 Transformers film. I did not want to add that without first checking what this particular project's rules about that type of information are. 70.153.189.211 03:33, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed this entry because it's against policy. See WP:MILHIST#Popular culture for an explanation. - Tronno ( t | c ) 21:30, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
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message: So I've seen this weapon being used by the Pakistani Army during one of their training exercises. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQLcqvL2rrg 
The weapon can be seen somewhere around 2:00
I have added Pakistan as a user of the Milkor for now.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Xaveq (talk • contribs) 11:55, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You'll need a better source than Youtube. Roger (talk) 13:39, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
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