Wikipedia talk:Argentina-related regional notice board/Archive 1

message: Has anyone ever heard of Gauchos Pesados? I never did, and that's why I've set a VfD on the article some time ago. But the article is well writen. Please, vote at the :Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Gauchos Pesados. -Mariano 10:30, July 14, 2005 (UTC)
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Due to the recent discovery of several hoaxes by the same user who did Gauchos Pesados and many other already deleted hoaxes under the IPs  and , we should consider voting for deletion the Glamorous cumbia article as stated in the no original research policy, and all links to both articles. -Mariano 12:06, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gauchos Pesados 

message: It seams Ze Germans have been very productive lately. There's a lot of information about :de:Argentina already there, including articles about the provinces (:de:Jujuy (Provinz)), cities (:de:San Salvador de Jujuy, regions (:de:Región Noroeste Argentino, :de:Región Patagonia Argentina, :de:Puna), and others: :de:Liste der Provinzen Argentiniens, :de:Julio Argentino Roca. If anyone is interested in trasnlating them into English or Spanish, good luck. (Please, no machine translations). -Mariano 09:55, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: also the article on the Flag of Argentina could use some content from :de:Flagge Argentiniens (which is a featured article in de). Two bad I have zero german in my pocket. SpiceMan 08:48, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deustch 

message: I'm trying to expand the article on José de San Martín. What I've written so far can be seen at User:SpiceMan/San Martin. My goal is to make it a Featured Article, which means not only expanding this article but also make the articles around him more complete. Any help really appreciated. SpiceMan 12:36, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  San Martin 

message: I was wondering if Peninsula Valdés was correct as a name... In keeping with other titles, it should be Valdés peninsula (or Valdés Peninsula); if we take it as a whole expression it should be Península Valdés (with accented í). While it is very easy to move the page and create redirects, there should be a standard in the first place. I tend to consider "Península Valdés" as an indivisible whole, much like "Puerto Madryn". BTW, Quilmes Atlético Club also looks positively weird... Sorry about the nitpicking — it looks as if I was born for that. --Pablo D. Flores 15:39, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As little as I like it, the club's proper name is Quilmes Atlético Club (afa page. I made some redirections that I considered a normal user would attempt. -Mariano 16:05, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Since when are geographical feature indivisible? Maybe look at peninsula project if this exists - Argentina is not the only country with peninsulas. We most not reinvent the wheel. Tobias Conradi (Talk) 20:26, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no such WikiProject, apparently. Note that Valdés peninsula exists as a redirect. The thing is that, for most people I think, the place name is heard as indivisible, "Península Valdés". Note that I simply moved it from Peninsula Valdés, which was a typo, missing the accute accent on the í. --Pablo D. Flores 20:40, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: no project but I found :Category:Peninsulas, wouldn't this imply Valdés Peninsula.? Tobias Conradi (Talk) 15:01, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

text: Categories often go by "Politics of Country" I saw e.g. "Argentine politics" I will move this to "Politics of Argentina". Maybe keep this format in mind if creating new Categories Tobias Conradi (Talk) 20:26, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Second that. Especially since the corresponding articles use that format (XXX of Argentina or sometimes XXX in Argentina). --Pablo D. Flores 20:40, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  More naming conventions 

message: Instead of discussing this issue in each province articles and Departments of Argentina, I'll address the issue here.
The administrative divisions vary among provinces, it is self determined. For instance, Córdoba is divided in departamentos, which are subdivided in pedanías, which are divided in municipalities, and there are comunas which are administrative entities below municipalities, although they're not integral part of a municipality in administrative terms (I don't know what that means, I just found out about this). 
On the other hand, Buenos Aires is NOT divided in departamentos. It's divided in municipios usually called partidos (Municipalidad de La Matanza, not Departamento). 
The usual organization scheme of these municipios is in an Executive Department (Departamento Ejecutivo) and Legislative Department (Concejo Deliberante) which adds confusion about the issue: the municipality's government is usually called departamento referring to either the Executive or Legislative branch of the municipality government (or both).
There are 2171 municipios in Argentina according to this.
Another example is Entre Ríos, here you can see how confusing the thing is: the province is divided like Buenos Aires in municipalities with a heading saying Ciudades cabeceras de Departamento, refering to the cities where the Executive and Legislative branches are located. 
So I'm bringing this so we discuss how to organize this mess. SpiceMan 11:40, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No need for Mass suicide, if we use the proper title for each thing, then it shouldn't be such a problem. Partidos will still be partidos and departamentos won be nothing else but departamentos. Of course, it will be necesary to fix some incorrect articles that explain the political divisions of Argentina. I Guess we are a Federation after all. -Mariano 11:58, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Administrative Divisions 

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