Talk:Language demographics of Quebec

message: The article mentions that less than one percent of Quebecers are bilingual. There's something clearly wrong with that stat. A correction is in order. Loomis51 23:31, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The 0.8% is the number for Quebecers who, during the last Canadian population census, declared having both French and English as their first language learned in childhood and still spoken. The person who added this information labelled them "bilingual", which might cause confusion. Usually when speaking of bilingual people, we tend to think of people who, in the course of their life, acquired a high level of competence in a foreign language. -- Mathieugp 15:35, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Something isn't right here

message: I have read some news articles lately which suggest that a law has been passed, or soon will be, that requires the children of allophone immigrants to enter francophone schools.  Does anybody have information to support or deny this?
: The Charter of the French Language requires that all Quebec children who attend public school do so in the French network. This means all Quebec born children or the children of immigrants to Canada residing in Quebec. An exception to this general principle allows for children whose parents' attended English school in Canada to attend the publicly funded English language schools. -- Mathieugp 19:54, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  allophone immigrants 

message: This might seem frivolous, but I'm curious about the word "Demolinguistics". I understand its meaning, but how common is its usage? Google only turned up about twenty sites that weren't this article, its Canadian counterpart, or a copy of the two, and all of the sites seemed to mention it only in passing. A search through the usually comprehensive online OED returned nothing. Is its usage primarily confined to the sociological/demolinguistic field? Is it just a pretty word that nobody really uses? When was it coined? If I used it, how many people are there who wouldn't go "what?"
--Words to sell 23:04, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I suspect that, like much of this article, it is a phrase that is common in French but unusual in its English translation.  I know it's in the dictionary, but I don't recall reading it anywhere but here.  HistoryBA 03:27, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: The word is not common in French I can assure you. It is scientific jargon. "Demographics" entered the vocabulary of a lot of people over time, but like numerous other words, it started as a scientific neologism contructed with Greek (or Latin) roots. I'd say it was coined in French as démolinguistique a branch of la linguistique specializing in language groups statistics. Then it was used in Quebec (we have an army of linguists here). Then it passed over to Canadian English as "Demolinguistics". This is just a guess though. No hard evidence. -- Mathieugp 13:52, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: Google finds 705 hits, plus "demolinguistics" should mean implications of demographics on language, which is not what the article is about. Peter Grey 16:20, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demolinguistics 

message: *9,178,100 for knowledge of French (Canada)
*6,739,050 for knowledge of French (Quebec)
*6,864,615 for French mother tongue (Canada)
*5,844,070 for French mother tongue (Quebec)
-- Mathieugp 22:33, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: To insert somewhere eventually

message: -- Mathieugp 20:08, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: *Language persitance
*Language vitality
*Language shift
(These should be in the Wiktionary I guess)
On this very subject: 
* Language vitality and Endangerment - UNESCO (PDF)
* Indicators of Relative Ethnolinguistic Vitality
-- Mathieugp 15:41, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indicators 

message: 1999 remains recent in 2012 ?  Relative to 2001, je suis d'accord, mais en 2012 ?
G. Robert Shiplett 13:34, 13 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  a recent study 

message: It is known that a substantial number of Scottish Gaelic-speaking settlers, almost entirely from the Isle of Lewis, settled in Quebec in areas such as Stornoway and Scotstown. There are several books written on the subject of the Gaelic in Quebec, the most notable (to my mind) being "Oatmeal and the Catechism" by Margaret Bennett, a respected authority on the history of Scottish Gaelic in Scotland and abroad. If I recall correctly, the book indicated that although Gaelic declined and ultimately withered away to nothing in the province, the language held on until roughly the 1960s-70s when the last Scottish Gaelic church services were held in certain key Highland-Quebecois settlements. 
Many Quebecois Gaels apparently moved to the United States (Seattle) as they faced hardship in the province, rather than to other Gaelic-speaking areas such as Nova Scotia or Cape Breton Island. The descendants of these Quebecois Gaels subsequently lost their Gaelic and are now wholly assimilated, and although at least one man in the early 20th century was a self-styled "Gaelic bard" from Seattle, he largely wrote in English.
I believe that this would be a worthy expansion of the article, although I am unsure of exactly how to go about adding this information (with reference to the sources), considering that the article is written from a very contemporary perspective. Does anyone have any opinion on the matter?
--Breatannach (talk) 12:34, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical Scottish Gaelic speaking population within Quebec 

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message: I would like to know What the figures in the B and C columns of the table in the section "Anglicization and francization" really are. In 2001, the number of French speakers according to mother tongue was only 5,761,765 (counting only single responses) , thus the figure 5,787,012 in the table cannot be the increase of the number of native French speakers in Quebec. So which data were used to reflect the language shifts occurred in Quebec between 1971 and 2001? Onmaditque (talk) 09:28, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anglicization and francization 

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