Talk:Albert Collins

message: The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article.-- Jreferee 00:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
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message: (moved from article mainspace --健次(derumi)talk 06:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pizza commentary

message: I've rewritten the opening. Collins was very much a guitarist's guitarist. Primarily he focused on playing rather than singing so he was never going have his moment in the pop charts which are primarily orientated to vocal performances - so I tightened the opening to reflect his standing amongst players both professional and amateur.
If you prefer the earlier opening then just revert my edits. Cheers.
Sluffs (talk) 23:50, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening rewrite 

message: I've removed:
He regularly named John Lee Hooker and organist Jimmy McGriff, along with Hopkins, Guitar Slim and Clarence “Gatemouth” Brown as major influences on his playing.
It was in the Early Life section which is not the best place for it. Will add it back in at a later date. The chronology of this article needs work as well. Please note that the chronology below may not be correct at the moment while I sort out the dates hence the question marks.
Sluffs (talk) 18:05, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
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message: Tony Houston played with Piney Brown in the early 80s and mentions that Albert Collins used Piney Brown as his opening act when he played at Gilly's in Dayton, Ohio. One of the problems is that he mentions this in a comment reply in an article on the death of Piney Brown at that highly commercially driven site About dot com. I'm loathed to even mention that site (I feel the same way about the very useless non-scholarly All Music Site) so I did a quick search to see if I could find a more reliable source and found this article at Fender by Tony Houston (three cheers for Fender):
Fender Concert Series - Tony Houston
However there is no mention of Albert Collins more about SRV but nevertheless it gives credence and weight to the comment posted by Houston at the About dot com site. I see no reason to dispute what Tony Houston says in his comment though I wish someone out there would interview him about Piney Brown - I don't even think there's an article on Piney Brown here. 
Sluffs (talk) 13:56, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tony Houston Details 

message: I've removed this material because it is supported by only one ref and is not conclusive even with the ref. The problem lies in the fact that Collins was related to Frankie Lee Sims (Johnny Guitar Watson was Sims nephew and Lightnin Hopkins was Sims cousin) but I have found nothing by Collins to suggest he received lessons from Sim. The family reunions may have drawn all of them together but surely then Collins would have mentioned that Sims attended. So I'm going to place the material here including the refs since I very much doubt that any further information will come to light. Unlike printed encyclopedias where errors cannot be changed until the next edition there's no need for that here and in essence Wikipedia articles with careful research and evaluation can avoid transferring any doubtful claims into the future. 
He also received some tutoring from his second cousin Frankie Lee Sims; a Specialty Records' artist who recorded prolifically during the 1950s achieving his biggest commercial success in 1953 with the song "Lucy Mae Blues".The Chill Is Gone - Houston Press Article. Correspondent: Jim Sherman. Published 09 Dec 1993. Retrieved 19 June 2013.James Head, "SIMS, FRANKIE LEE," Handbook of Texas Online. Accessed June 19, 2013. Published by the Texas State Historical Association.
Sluffs (talk) 21:16, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
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message: I'm having difficulty determining the year that Cold Snap was a nominee. 
I've put 1987 for Cold Snap for the moment until I find a site with the correct year. The official Grammy site strangely enough doesn't list nominees only winners and is designed in such a way that it can't be used as a reference. It may actually be 1988 for Cold Snap since the album was finished in October 1986 and would've had to have been on the record shop shelves for sale for a certain period before receiving a nomination - so if the 29th Grammy nominees for 1987 were announced in February (my conjecture) then Cold Snap may not be included.
Will update when reliable source becomes available.
Sluffs (talk) 19:06, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Best Traditional Blue Recording - Grammy Awards 1987 or 1988? 

message: I've removed this sentence from the Legacy section:
Collins has influenced many artists and collaborated with Ronnie Wood, Jimmy Page, Keith Richards, Johnny Nitro, Jeff Beck, Gary Moore and  Larry Carlton.
This has no refs so I'll investigate and if the details are highly relevant then will add the names back into the main body of the article. Note that the Johnny Nitro link goes to a Wikipedia article on a wrestler so maybe disambiguation needed or erroneous.
Sluffs (talk) 21:08, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
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message: This section includes the unreferenced sentence: "At the age of twelve, he decided to concentrate on learning the guitar after hearing "Boogie Chillen'" by John Lee Hooker."
This seems most unlikely to be completely true - Collins was born in 1932 and Hooker did not record "Boogie Chillen" until September 1948, when Collins was 16. Hooker was already living in Detroit by 1944, when Collins was 12, and there is no suggestion that he might have played in Texas at that time.  So if Collins was inspired by "Boogie Chillen", it was when he was 16 or older, and if he was inspired to concentrate on the guitar at 12, it was not by Hooker or "Boogie Chillen", so I'm tempted to remove the sentence unless someone can find a reference that could improve its accuracy.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Freewheeling frankie (talk • contribs) 10:35, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
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