Talk:Gary Gordon

message: I've addressed this same issue on the page for Randall Shughart. And since this article has the same problems, I restate it:
The Biography section is not a biography, but rather a rehash, practically verbatim, of the events leading up to Shughart's death as published here. While the information on that site is in the public domain, and should be included here somehow, a proper biography still should be here.
As for the Medal of Honor citation section, it's a mess, repeating almost word-for-word what was cut and pasted above. That's just stupidity or laziness, or both. Alcarillo 17:29, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I edited down the account of the battle in order to highlight the essentials. I also removed entirely the verbatim cut-and-paste of the MOH citation. This article could definitely use more biographical info pre-Mogadishu, specifically his early life and entire army career leading up to his assignment with Task Force Ranger. Alcarillo 15:44, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: I'd say it was a "C" at best

message: Would anyone like to tell me why this man deserves a page on Wikipedia? what have he ever done? He died in combat. sucks but thats war. He died an so does a lot of people each day but they don't get a page. so please tell me why or I'll delete it. --Andersbmeister (talk) 21:30, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Why?

message: As I sated in the Shughart discussion, there was a third member of Gordon's sniper team. Sergeant First Class Brad Hallings.
Page 178 of Bowden's book lists the team members, and page 197 explains that Hallings took control of a mini gun on the Blackhawk after a crew chief was injured and was not inserted. Jslowik 02:36, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hallings had a broad yellow stripe down his back, and refused to go into combat.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.141.22.53 (talk) 09:37, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Other teammate

message: Bowden's book, and Durant's book both said that Gary died first and Randy brought back Gary's gun to Durant.  So the MoH citation is completely opposite of what really happened.
Corroboration that Gordon was killed or taken out of the fight first seems pretty reasonable. Bowden cites several things to support his theory: the fact that Delta operator Paul Howe heard Shughart calling for backup last; the fact that Durrant states that he remembers seeing the Delta operator who handed him the CAR-15 at previous briefings for the Nightstalker teams and Paul Howe stated that Shughart had been the Delta operator who attended those meetings; the fact that Durrant was handed a weapon that was not an M-14 (the weapon that Shughart used). I'm working on Mr. Shughart's article right now and am attempting to resolve citation and detailing of the same issues there. I will posed the solution used on Mr. Shughart's page here once I've updated it there. That said, I believe that this "controversy" should be presented matter-of-factly and shortly, as it is tangential (though I'm sure highly personal to the families) to the actions of both men. The essence of their actions are two-fold: one, that It is almost beyond debate that Mike Durrant would have been killed, had Gordon and Shughart not been inserted. - Gwopy 01:33, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It may well be that there are discrepencies in the actual facts surrounding his death and what was actually stated in the MOH citation, but the citation is essentially a quote. --Kumioko (talk) 05:22, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: MoH Citation

message: At Ft. Polk, Joint Readyness Training Center.
The Military Operations on Urbanized Terrain (MOUT) complex at Fort Polk, LA is 8km x 7km box within the Joint Readiness Training Center's (JRTC) Maneuver Area consisting of a series of villages and tactical objective sites. The centerpiece is a town called Shughart-Gordon. Shughart-Gordon is a twenty-nine (29) building enclave replicating a third world town. In addition there is an eight (8) building airfield named Self Airfield, and a five (5) building mock military installation named Word Military Compound. 
Every soldier who trains at JRTC comes in contact with this town.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.81.77.130 (talk) 16:10, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Also named for Gary gordon 

message: An IP address user changed ever instance of his name from Gordon to Gorgen.  Based on supporting references that universally agree his name is spelled Gordon, I reverted the edit.  Maybe they were going for gorgon and spelled it wrong?  Robert Bin Peters (talk) 00:22, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

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message: I think we should remove this subheading.  Compare with Randy Shughart to see how we handle it there.  There isn't actually any controversy here, as there might be in some cases.  Admittedly, there was (is?) some confusion or uncertainty about the exact order of death, but that would only be a "controversy" with some kind of added elements.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 16:21, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Controversy and confusion"