Talk:Dean of the College of Cardinals

message: Hi there.  I've been wondering something.  Could anyone clear this up for me?  See, the Cardinal Dean has the job of asking an elected pope if he accepts his election.  But what if the Cardinal Dean is over 80?  According to the rules since Paul VI, over 80 Cardinals are not to participate in Conclaves.  I thought that the perhaps the Dean is require to retire upon 80, but that isn't the case.  It's supposed to be a job for life, until the Dean decides to resign.  One of the previous Deans (I think it was Cardinal Gantin) had already surpassed his 80th birthday by the time he retired.  So how does this work out?  Does the Dean just sit outside the Sistine Chapel with the attendants of the Conclave and just wait until he's called in by the junior Cardinal Deacon?JesuXPIPassio 23:21, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Under both Paul VI's and JPII's rules, if the Cardinal Dean is unable to be present in the conclave or unable to perform the duty, it falls to the Sub-Dean. If the Sub-Dean is also unable to perform the duty, it falls to the senior-most Cardinal Bishop present. Gentgeen 02:05, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dean in Conclaves

message: Um... This article mentions Eugênio de Araújo Sales as still being alive, but his article mentions him as deceased. Timotheus1 (talk) 05:23, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eugênio de Araújo Sales 

message: Hi everyone,
I have read that the new Dean of the college of cardinals is Card.Giovan Battista Re.Could you please verify this news?And then update?.Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.75.242.112 (talk) 08:48, 15 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  update of the dean of the college of cardinals 

message: Can anyone provide any contemporary evidence for the use of the title of Dean in the 12th, 13th, or 14th century??  The authors referred to in note 3 merely seem to confirm who is the senior cardinal at any time.  The issue is whether he is called "Dean" (Decanus). Vicedomino (talk) 21:46, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Title of Dean, early

message: Cardinal Hugh Aycelin de Billon was not created a cardinal until May 16, 1288.  He was therefore junior to Cardinal Bianchi.  One cannot go by the title Bishop of Ostia.  The bishop of Ostia was not Dean of the Sacred College ex officio until a decree of Pope Paul IV united the two titles.  Cardinal Hugh was never Dean—and I reiterate my complaint that the title of Dean is anachronistic.  Cardinal Latino Malabranca, who died on August 9, 1294, was succeeded as prior Episcoporum by Cardinal Gerardo Bianchi.  Vicedomino (talk) 23:56, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Error: Hugh de Billon

message: Cardinal Latino did not cease being Prior Episcoporum in 1289, to make way for Hugh Aycelin.  Cardinal Latino presided over the Conclave of 1292-1294. At the beginning of the Sede Vacante, it is he who attempts to assemble a Conclave, and Jacopo Stefaneschi specifically calls him ipse Latinus, Ordine pontificum primus ("Vita Coelestini Papae V Opus Metricum," in Muratori, Rerum Italicarum Scriptores III. 1,  613-641.).  His name occurs in first place on the Certificate of Election of Celestine V:  Augustinus Theiner (Editor), Caesaris S. R. E. Cardinalis Baronii, Od. Raynaldi et Jac. Laderchii Annales Ecclesiastici Tomus Vicesimus Quintus, 1286-1312 (Barri-Ducis: Ludovicus Guerin 1871), under the year 1294 § 6, p. 131.  He made the complementary speech in reply to King Charles II on behalf of the College of Cardinals, Responsa Duci digesta Latinus Attulit, et placido diffudit verba lepore (in the words of Jacopo Stefaneschi). Vicedomino (talk) 00:14, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Error: Latino Malabranca Orsini

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message: May I suggest that we make the list of the deans in a table born do that we can also see their information (ie. life dates (with ages), date of creation, date opted for the Order of Bishops (prior episcopum), and past titles, sees or deaconries held)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by LeoXIPP (talk • contribs) 11:42, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Tables are pretty.  But tables are also harder to work with when adding or deleting material.  This article has so many unverified items, and is so much in need of pruning and annotating. The adding of the suggested information is impossible for at least half of the list, since the information does not exist.  You would be creating huge amounts of empty space without improving the content of the article.  It is (I trust you will agree) that content and accuracy is what is important.  Vicedomino (talk) 16:32, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  List in Table form