Talk:Pointing stick

message: Shouldn't we start a section called "trackpoint in other languages", a la "@ in other languages"? I'm quite sure trackpoint has some charming names in other languages, just like @ does...
: Best name I ever saw for it was Magical Red Nipple of Mouse Control. The person who coined that one was indeed a NetHack fan...
: Believe it or not, but many people refer to it as "clit". I've heard it so many times in so many languages that I think it's worth mentioning on either the Pointing stick page or the "Clit (disambiguation)" page or better yet: Both. On the other hand, some second opinions might be desired before changing the article(s). RobIII 11:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is quite commonly referred to as "clitoris" in Russia, whatever the real Russian name of that device is supposed to be, the public has no knowledge of it, and it is not widely used in practice. Mihara 23:24, 14 March 2007 (UTC)

text: clitoris in Brazil too. But i can only atest for the geek crowd.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.52.174.253 (talk) 02:56, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

text: in the netherlands the thing is called "clitoris" in informal speak. i think the name *is* common, and i think not including it among the nicknames is unnecessarily prude and hiding useful information. is was also the only name i knew it by until a certain webcomic told me the official name Bewareircd 09:52, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  trackpoint in other languages 

message: It seems that very few laptops nowadays incorporate trackpoints, even in the ultraportable market where a trackpoint is optimal. Does IBM/Lenovo have a patent on a trackpoint design, or do we simply have a case of betamax/vhs on our hands? --Qviri (talk) 04:47, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure it's patented by IBM --Froth 19:16, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you dig up patent numbers? Based on Pointing stick#History, it can't have been patented much later than 1987, when it became a product. --Damian Yerrick (talk | stalk) 01:18, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  So is this actually trademarked? 

message: When I ran across this article last night, I was dismayed by some of the offensive and irrelevant content. I've cleaned it up, and I would like to ask other editors to refrain from adding such material in the future.
That said, I apologize for my note in the edit comments for this talk page, "Removed offensive and idiotic content." That comes close to being a personal insult, and I did not mean it that way. "Removed offensive content" would have been sufficient.
Michael Geary 17:03, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not censored.  The nomenclature may be offensive to you but that is not a justification for deleting it. --Dgies 00:28, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  And now we have *ten* references for these obscure terms? Sorry, but that is way over the top. It makes it look like Wikipedia is obsessed with trivial and scatological names for things. What is notable about those names? --Michael Geary 04:25, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  In fact, a full 25% of this article is now devoted to these terms! --Michael Geary 05:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  All we needed was one line, but you and that other guy seemed to think they were uncommon or unreferenced.  Pick your poison. --Dgies 05:22, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let's keep this article on topic 

message: Since this article covered two completely different topics, and by far the most incoming links to this page are about the TrackPoint, I moved the non-TrackPoint content to a disambiguation page. 
Could we now keep this article to the TrackPoint and similar pointing devices only?
Thanks,
Michael Geary 03:03, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved other pointing stick definition to a disambiguation page 

message: Sharcho, I'm curious about your edit that changed:
: It is especially liked by touch-typists because it is the only pointing device which does not require the user to remove their fingers from the home row.
to:
: It is especially liked by touch-typists because it is one of the few pointing device which does not require the user to remove their fingers from the home row.
Is there another pointing device that you can use without moving your fingers from the home row? I am not aware of one, but I'd be interested to know about it.
Thanks! --Michael Geary 05:18, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't make that change, but there are pointing devices which are used with the thumbs (which do not use the home row).  A head-movement pointing device also does not affect hand positioning.  (SEWilco 15:39, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

text: also, remember that there are input devices where the home row is more unconventional, like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datahand  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.52.174.253 (talk) 03:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Home row 

message: Ok, so here's the quote:
Pointing stick devices are sometimes referred to as a "nub", "eraser", "nipple", or "clit."
And the references, let's discuss them:
*http://www.system-concepts.com/articles/article0081.html
**A few references to nipples, but they don't seem very authoritative.  -- Norvy (talk) 16:25, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: eraser head has no references and should probably be removed if there's any degree of objectivity in Wikipedia. --ToobMug 11:46, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other names

message: I use the accu point on my notebook every day, even on my desk. I never expirienced cramps. I rather get them with by using the touch pad.
But I too accelerated pointer speed. Then you need not to apply as much pressure.
You need some time of training to use it correct and to judge this device. 217.81.228.22 09:56, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  no cramps 

message: I've removed the following from the comparison with touchpads:
:"Unlike a touchpad, a pointing stick allows a user to move the cursor large distances without the need to pause to reposition their finger."
Touchpads these days typically have some sort of cursor acceleration enabled, so it's now quite normal to be able to move the cursor all the way across the screen in one movement just by moving your finger faster across the touchpad. - Mark 15:45, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if a touchpad only requires one movement across it to move the cursor all the way across the screen, you are still moving your fingers and hands significantly more than you would on the Trackpoint. Moreover, you have to remove your hands from the home keys. Off the top of my head, I can't think of any ways in which a touchpad has a greater economy of movement than a trackpoint. 24.127.54.17 (talk) 02:52, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparison with touchpad 

message: maybe different angle would be better. or illustration ;) this picture wants you to know the differnce or look it up. better would be hand + trackpoint + arrows ;) 84.16.123.194 (talk) 01:41, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  first sight-picture is showing touchpad 

message: both need you to keep doing something. trackpoint to develop constant pressure, touchpad to simulate movement. it felt somehow similar as to vi-like emacs-like editors work. in one you are changing states "less rapidly" (pressing/not presing) in other it is instances (strokes) + lot of finger "combos"? 84.16.123.194 (talk) 02:01, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  idea - similar to modal X non-modal editors 

message: Article begins by pointing out that IBM's Trackpoint is only one type of pointing stick, but by the first section (Features), all references are to Trackpoint only. Technical details seem to apply to Trackpoint. No mention of how other types of pointing stick might vary.
Don't know enough about the subject to sort this out myself.Centrepull (talk) 18:25, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  TrackPoint Hijack? 

message: This might be hard to document given the obsession with avoiding 'original research,' but it's sorely needed - it seems there are "a few" popular dimensions for the mounting post and "a few" popular diameters of nub.  Thus, I can order replacement nubs which claim to fit the Dell D-series, only to find out they're designed for something with a stick about 2mm wider on each side.
Anyone care to create a compatibility table or by-manufacturer dimensions for these essential consumable parts?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.252.199.240 (talk) 19:06, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Nub compatibility?" 

message: Anon added the following paragraph, which I have removed pending discussion:
"Temperature Effects: Another problem may occur during increased operating temperature, i.e. in warm climates and/or if the computer is operating at high power for extended periods. The pointer will drift way to a corner of the screen by itself, from immediately after the stick is released. Workarounds to this problem range from using fan coolers to placing icepacks under the computer."
If these problems at high temperatures are endemic to the design of a pointing stick, it's notable but should have a citation, though workarounds to the problem of high temperatures have nothing specific to do with the pointing stick.  However, if Anon simply had a laptop overheat in a way that affected the operation of the pointing stick, it shouldn't be in the article.  Laptops do a lot of strange things when they overheat. Spike-from-NH (talk) 20:30, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pointer drift at high temperatures 

message: I do not endorse Anon's edits to this article--as this is an encyclopedia, not a diary--nor his histrionics on my user page when I reverted the first batch. I leave the disposition to editors with more longevity here, but believe it requires more than mere typo corrections. Spike-from-NH (talk) 00:12, 16 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: User contributions: Special:Contributions/24.19.56.88. -- ToE 13:29, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits by 24.19.56.88 

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message: The history section does not properly explain that the first laptop/keyboard to include a pointing stick was the first three IBM Thinkpad laptop models, the 700, 700C, and 700T,   in 1992. Later, other companies such as Compaq licensed the technology for which IBM held a patent on for use on their own laptops. Someone should find sources for these two facts (assuming they don't already exist in the article, and add them to the article (with citations). --Notcharliechaplin (talk) 19:28, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional info needed in history section 

message: it's used in GPD Pocket2 (i don't know if it's the first occurence). so they use stationary optical sensor ( which is the same size as pointing stick) over which a finger is moved. So it's basically an optical mouse in reverse. But due to it's purpose (the same as with p.stick which is space constraints) and size I believe it deserves a mention. 89.201.184.159 (talk) 23:04, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  new approach