Talk:Jericho, Kansas (fictional town)

message: In the Pilot Episode of Jericho, Jake Greene drives his car past a milage sign which indicates this:
* Jericho 47 miles
* Wichita 196 miles
* Kansas City 362 miles
Now taking a map of Kansas, A 196 mile circle around wichita and a 362 mile circle around Kansas City would intersect only in two spots.  One outside of the state in Missouri and one inside the state of Kansas near Garden City.  This could be thought of as an error as this puts Jake Greene coming in from the south, and not from the west via Denver.  Another thought is that Jericho is basically near where Colby, KS is per other hints in other episodes. From Garden City, it is more than double the 47 miles that would be listed on the sign. I don't know if anyone is interested in this but I thought I would list it here just in case it can be used in the article later. All in all, the milage math does not work out. --69.92.129.118 21:46, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pilot Road Sign 

message: I'd like to propose an edit to the part about the Smoky Hill River in the "Geography" section, and seek to build consensus for a change.  Existing copy states:
"Because the Smokey Hill River does exist, the Smokey Hill Bridge mentioned in the third episode could exist, but it would be at least a 90-minute drive south of Jericho, and that would not fit into the time-frame of the show. The third episode also depicts airplanes landing on the highway near the Smokey Hill Bridge. In actuality, all the highways that cross the Smokey Hill River are two lanes and too narrow to land large aircraft. Pilots of large aircraft would have to glide north and attempt to land on Interstate 70 or in a field."
1st, it's the Smoky Hill River -- Smoky without an "e" not Smokey.
2nd, I don't see where the "90-minute drive" comes from.  The Smoky Hill River Bridge is likely to be the one on US 83 in Logan County (38.7961°N, 100.8568°W).  Per Google Maps this location is 23.0 miles (about 24 mins) south of Oakley, Kansas, and 46.2 miles (about 52 minutes) south of Colby, Kansas.  Neither is 90-minute drive!
3rd, "In actuality" (I hate that phrase) but it is likely that the Smoky Hill River Bridge on US 83 is probably a two lane highway.  It is also probable that Interstate 70 is also two lanes in each direction seperated by a median.  So I-70 would likely be no more acceptable for an emergency landing location, than would be any other two lane US highway.  Note: I've never been to this area of Kansas, so perhaps someone more familiar can chime in here? 
4)  IMO, any pilot, 'worth his salt' so to speak, would look at his aeronautical charts to find an airport somewhere en route (such as at Hays or Garden City... even Goodland has a runway 5499x100) that is capable of landing their aircraft safely.  This is just Standard Operating Procedure and training for any pilot!  And in a next to last ditch effort, they would choose a smaller (non-commercial) airport like those at Oakley or Colby, or quite literally hundreds of other choices. There are 414 airports in Kansas!  A pilot would only chose a highway in the event of a last ditch, no options, situation, and even then might be as likely to do a wheels up landing in an field.
So I would like to see this section revised to state:
The Smokey Hill River does exist.  The Smokey Hill Bridge mentioned in the third episode is likely to be on US Highway 83, about 23 miles south of Oakley, KS.  The third episode depicts airplanes having landed on the highway near the Smokey Hill Bridge.  Although use of a highway might concievably work for a 'last ditch' emergency landing site, most pilots would likely find a suitable commercial/public runway at Hays, Garden City, Goodland, Colby, or Oakley, to land their aircraft more safely.
I'm not sure how wikipedia works, but I would like to build consensus on this.  If anyone disagrees, or would like to defend their spelling, 90 minute drive, or I-70 statements, please speak up.  
Thanks,
Jason51 19:27, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Smoky Hill River Reference Corrections/Edit Proposal 

message: I've never contributed to Wikipedia so I'm not sure how to go about getting pages edited...
I think it is impossible to designate Oakley as the sole possible site of fictional Jericho.  The current page states;  "... Oakley is the closest community that matches the fictional Jericho's apparent location, and some route numbers from the "official" CBS map of Jericho match, but Oakley is in Logan County."
I feel this should be changed to state;  "No communities in Gove County match, based upon information provided in the show.  There are two communities in north-west Kansas that seem to match closest, Colby and Oakley, but neither is an exact match.  The writers seem to be using information from both of these communities to create their fictional town of Jericho."
The highway numbers match for Oakley, but in the real world, these are US Highways, not State Highways as depicted on the CBS map.
Colby is north and east of Goodland (and yes it was Goodland mentioned in episode entitled "The Four Horsemen", not Great Bend, as mentioned below).  
Additionally... Colby's population more closely matches that of the fictional Jericho (stated as 5,000).  Colby has a "medical center" by name (actually two)--Oakley has a "hospital" but no "medical center" by name.  Colby is 78 miles from McCook, while Oakley is 88 miles away.  The show says Jericho to McCook is 80 miles, so Colby is closer.
I'd like to editors of this page to take these facts into consideration.
209.183.32.42 23:44, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fictional Jericho based upon both Oakley and Colby Kansas? 

message: Actually, I believe the 3rd episode spoke about "Great Bend" Kansas, not goodland. And according to Google maps, there is an Armory there:
http://www.google.com/maps?hl=en&lr=&q=national+guard&near=Great+Bend,+KS+67530&radius=0.0&latlng=38364444,-98764444,13011429110170736068&sa=X&oi=local&ct=authority
I'm hoping the original poster will confirm this information...I'd prefer not to edit their work
* I just reviewed my DVR recording of that episode and Johnston says "Goodland". Good find though --69.92.129.118 21:35, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Great Bend" Kansas, not goodland... 

message: 80% of this article consists of plot problems. Who the hell is this pedantic? Battle Ape 13:54, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot problems 

message: Can somebody post a map of the town (from the CBS site) on this page???? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 19:00, November 16, 2006 (talk • contribs) 68.51.116.5.
:The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was move to Jericho (fictional town). -- tariqabjotu 02:12, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map of Jericho 

message: Any can be added, this is just an idea list. Approval voting is the usual method I believe; mark any and all you support, and if one comes out clearly ahead, that will be the target of the move. -- nae'blis 16:16, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Potential names

message: Very rough.  They should be removed. Exbuzz 04:25, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Rough pictures" 

message: This article is in need of a major copyedit. There are numerous amounts of errors. I began to go through to correct grammar and misspellings, but I was unable to save the changes due to updates made since I started my copyedit. In order to keep the changes made, I am marking this page for copyediting. Please remember to check over your work before saving, and if you are unsure of a word, look it up in a dictionary, or, if you are able to, type your changes into Microsoft Word first, and then copy it into Wikipedia.
--HBot3 22:53, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Questions from proofreader:
* In the lead, does the final sentence "it is in Logan county" refer to Jericho or to Oakley? --Otheus 15:23, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Otheus, thanks for starting the cleanup of this article. There is still a lot of material here that fails the original research tests, and as such will need to be removed. However, the article is stronger from your work. --Ckatzchatspy 17:56, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is still a lot of material here that fails the original research tests, and as such will need to be removed. Yes, like the entire article. However, I'm pretty certain that much of this can be gleaned from fan sites, TV summaries, etc. --Otheus 16:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

text: --Otheus 16:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed the dark image again. It isn't terribly legible, and there are other scenes in the series that can provide better images. As for manipulating an image to add "Jericho", I'd suggest that we should avoid "creating" images altogether. Thoughts? --Ckatzchatspy 19:17, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

text: With regards to the EMS image, there might be a good image from the daytime fire at the town library from earlier in the season. (I'd offer to create it, but I don't have any Jericho episodes to work from.) There is/was a fire department image from that episode earlier, but it had to be removed due to licensing issues, having been taken from a fan site complete with overlaid URL. --Ckatzchatspy 19:58, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyedit 

message: * I have removed the scans from the TV episodes. They are neither useful nor informative. 
* The sketch of the ambulance is a joke. Just link to the article on ambulances or take a picture of a real Ambulance and photoshop it to say "Jericho". 
:--Otheus 16:01, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed the dark image again. It isn't terribly legible, and there are other scenes in the series that can provide better images. As for manipulating an image to add "Jericho", I'd suggest that we should avoid "creating" images altogether. Thoughts? --Ckatzchatspy 19:17, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: With regards to the EMS image, there might be a good image from the daytime fire at the town library from earlier in the season. (I'd offer to create it, but I don't have any Jericho episodes to work from.) There is/was a fire department image from that episode earlier, but it had to be removed due to licensing issues, having been taken from a fan site complete with overlaid URL. --Ckatzchatspy 19:58, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:087.jpg

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