Talk:J. William Fulbright

message: Just cut from a section supposedly about his defeat. If there's an Israel lobby in Washington, there sure is an anti-Israel lobby in Wikipedia. Fulbright is a famous case of "don't neglect your power base." If his internationalist outlook made him cutting edge for the USA in general, it slowly put him out of touch in Arkansas. Don't have the quote, but remember reading that when he'd been elected, he'd been a famous college athlete, in Arkansas' mind, as much as anything. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi gets elected by the second tiniest district in America and she now experiences the tension of deciding whether to support SF's narrow goals, or much broader American ones. And she's vulnerable to a primary fight, the way Fulbright was.Profhum (talk) 16:51, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Weasel Words, post hoc ergo propter hoc

message: Fulbright claimed that his opposition to the war was motiviated not just by his isolationist views but also by his concern for America's soldiers. What, then, did Fulbright do to help soldiers returning from Vietnam? He did absolutely nothing to help us. Fulbright did not work to update the GI Bill, which had been eroded by inflation. He did not work to build the Vietnam Veterans Memorial. Like all of the other major politicians (Ford and Nixon and Reagan and Carter and Mrs. LBJ), Fulbright did not even appear at the dedication in 1982 of the Vietnam Veterans Memorial.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.44.144.129 (talk) 21:02, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: What Did Fulbright Do for Vietnam Veterans?

message: Isolationism and appeasement are not grounds for a lasting legacy, yet he is celebrated as a god by liberals and those in Arknasas in particular (does Arkansas have any "liberals" living there?). What, given the rank liberal (oh that naughty word) failures of the 1960's and 1990's (which "failures" would those be?) that have again put the West and our nation in peril, is the attraction? User:216.152.10.216
Sorry but you can't be a "liberal" and a segregationist at the same time. (Of course you can, you can be a Southern Democrat)
:We honor Fulbright for his achievements as a Senator, for his long service to the government of the United States, for his courage in opposing Senator McCarthy (not too courageous in opposing certain views of his Southern Brethren though, we must admit), and for his lasting legacy in the form of the Fulbright Scholarships which have helped American students the world over. Seems to me good reason to study and admire this fine gentleman, despite his "failures." Just because he has a viewpoint that you may not agree with doesn't mean we should ignore his service to this nation and his lasting legacy.
A Wikipedia article really shouldn't honor (or for that matter dishonor) anyone who is the subject of an article. It should stick to the facts of what said person did/did not do in their lifetime. However, Wikipedia writes precious few articles about people of historical interest that don't reek of someone's point of view. You can get a lot more factual info about a ladybug from Wikipedia than you can about any person living or dead. 
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Citation for 'my mentor and friend, Senator Fulbright", White House Office of the Press Secretary, June 5, 1996 Nobs 02:30, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why do we honor Fulbright, ever, in name or deed? 

message: What about Harriet Mayer Fulbright? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.174.188.219 (talk) 03:54, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  his spouse.. 

message: Why did he resign on 1974-12-31 and not finish out his term?—Markles 13:23, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The article doesn't specify that date (nor give a reason) at this present time, saying only "Fulbright left the Senate in 1974, after being defeated in the Democratic primary by then-Governor Dale Bumpers." Both would be helpful. Milkunderwood (talk) 01:34, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Resignation 

message: It would be interesting to know what his (personal) rationale was for supporting segregationism?  As a European reader - even with a reasonable understanding of US history (I hope) - it seems anomalyous (without further explanation) that a senator with his apparently more liberal-leaning views, albeit a southern senator, should also be a segregationist. Particularly as he is also honoured for the Fulbright Program.  (Presumably there were many black or African exchange students/scholars who participated in this program, even early in its history?) Or perhaps, to ask more directly: was Fulbright personally racist?  Or was there some politically expedient, or electorially convenient, reason for his stated support for segregation and the Southern Manifesto? 86.168.248.239 (talk) 13:58, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no evidence that Fulbright was a segregationist. This unfounded claim is bases on a guilt by association fallacy, since known segregationists also signed that document. The Southern Manifesto does not endorse segregation; it merely gives a constitutional argument why the question should be left to the states, and why the Supreme Court Brown vs. Board of Education decision was “a clear abuse of judicial power … with no legal basis for such action.” So Fulbright signing this document does not logically imply that he favored segregation, only that he thought the Supreme Court acted unconstitutionally. So I am deleting the segregationist claim. If someone ever finds some evidence, such as a damning quote, then I would of course reconsider. PhilLiberty (talk) 01:00, 5 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: No, nobody ever believed that the Supreme Court decided Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education incorrectly. The Reconstruction Amendments to the U.S. Constitution made the practice of segregation illegal. There's no way that's not true. The only thing the U.S. Supreme Court said in the 1950s was that the Reconstruction Amendments do in fact say what they say, which is that it's illegal to give preferential treatment on the basis of what is called (with little scientific precision) "race" (usually identified by "skin color" or "looking like something" in the way of a person who is presumed to come from a certain region of the globe, or by analysis of known genealogy). Since nobody signing the Southern Manifesto was SINCERELY railing at the Supreme Court for overstepping, they were making a visible gesture of support to uphold segregation. Case closed on that. Now. Does that make Fulbright a segregationist? Thank goodness no. It makes him a hypocrite. He saw what happened to Brooks Hays, who stood on principle and then couldn't get elected dog-catcher after President Eisenhower used the Armed Forces to integrate Little Rock, and he saw what happened to Orval Faubus (another hypocrite whose sincerity was a White Supremacist has always been in doubt by those who know his Marxist past), who had the ability to re-elected forever, until Faubus himself decided he didn't want his office anymore. Fulbright put his finger in the air, sensed the direction of the prevailing winds, and decided to PRETEND to be a White Supremacist, since losing his Senate Seat wouldn't have accomplished anything for the cause and would have neutered his ability to fight for other causes. I don't think the case exists that Fulbright really WAS a White Supremacist. I know that no politician before or after Fulbright ever lied about his beliefs just to win an election, but maybe it happened just this once?2600:8804:8C40:401:1C64:8308:33BC:E2D6 (talk) 06:56, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Segregationism - His Rationale? 

message: Would an interview with transcript with James Fulbright from 1986 be useful here as an external link? Focus of conversation is nuclear weapons policy. http://openvault.wgbh.org/catalog/V_851AF55360E945338EF9F8ED99D9BC93 (I have a conflict of interest; otherwise I would add it myself.) Mccallucc (talk) 18:39, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link? 

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message: I don't know where to insert this, but that Fulbright was an early opponent of the mission to the Moon should be in this article.
"The probable truth is that we are in a race not with the Russians, but with ourselves. [...] It may well be that we have entered a trap of our own making, that we have committed ourselves to a futile race of which the outcome can only be outright failure or a pyrrhic victory. I think that the policies of our Nation will have a far greater impact on the world if we sustain our space program on a more reasonable scale and divert some of the talent and money involved to solving some of our pressing problems here on earth." — J. William Fulbright
He was of the opinion that landing on the Moon was such an achievement that "may dazzle the world for a day or a week but that will soon be lost in the tides of history." He continued: "It seems clear that the triumph of being first on the Moon will be a fleeting and costly one, a 9-day wonder of history, a gaudy sideshow in the real work of the world."
Sources:
* Primary source: 
* Another source: The Soviet Response to the Moon Landing? Denial There Was a Moon Race at All
Adraeus (talk) 09:30, 23 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early opponent of [[Space Race]] 

message: Immediately above the section "McCarthy confrontation" there's a quote of Harry Truman calling Fulbright an "overeducated SOB". Much better known is McCarthy's frequently calling him "Senator Halfbright". Google returns a number of links to this slur, including the New York Times, Washington Post, and the Congressional Record. I prefer not to edit the article myself, but suggest that this be added somewhere in the McCarthy section. Milkunderwood (talk) 01:21, 2 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done -- but formatting of ref may need help. Milkunderwood (talk) 08:03, 27 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Senator Halfbright" 

message: "His well-documented stances on Vietnam, the Middle East, and Watergate"
Nothing in this article mentions his stance on Watergate. Apparently his stance is well-documented. What was his stance? I assume he was opposed to Nixon in regards to Watergate? And the people of Arkansas supported Nixon? Can someone find some documentation on this? Kingturtle = (talk) 19:39, 6 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Watergate...