Talk:Wacky Races (1968 TV series)

message: I'm aware of at least three Japanese animated shows that produced a Wacky Races-style special. During the '80s, AIC produced Scramble Wars, starring the super deformed versions of  characters from Bubblegum Crisis, Gall Force and other shows that AIC created. Sunrise did the same, as part of the SD Gundam OVA series of self-parodies of Sunrise's Gundam series. This is perhaps the most direct homage to Wacky Races, as the episode transforms one of the characters, the mad ace Yazan Gable, into a Muttley-esque character, complete with dog-like snout and hushed laugh. Recently, in 1993, Tatsunoko released a Wacky Races-styled OVA special featuring the characters from the popular and long running Time Bokan franchise and it's spinoffs, Yattaman, Zendaman, and Otasukeman.--YoungFreud 16:37, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Anime homages to Wacky Races

message: I think lazy luke has a moonshine still in the back, not a stove.
makes more sense too.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.250.166.171 (talk) 00:11, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: a stove?

message: Are these race results accurate?  They could probably do with being sourced.  I'm not convinced that they're correct. MLA 16:17, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Race results

message: ...I've often thought some wikipedians had too much time on their hands. Now I'm sure of it. I applaud the someone somewhere who watched every series and noted down who won.
Still, going with number of firsts, resolving ties with number of seconds and then thirds, a final win-list reads thusly:
1) The Bulletproof Bomb
2) The Compact Pussycat
3) The Turbo Terrific
4) The Arkansas Chugabug
5) The Bouldermobile
6) The Buzzwagon
7) The Crimson Haybailer
8) The Creepy Coupe
9) The Convertacar
10)The Army Surplus Special
11)The Mean Machine
Phew, poor Dick Dastardly... at least he won a few... Annihilatenow 16:16, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wow.... 

message: Articles already exist for some drivers such as The Slag Brothers, The Gruesome Twosome, Professor Pat Pending, Luke and Blubber Bear.
And some articles appear to have been started, but were changed to redirects to this article (Red Max, Sergeant Blast & Private Meekly, Ant Hill Mob, etc). 
I'm not bothered either way, but it seems that either they should all have seperate articles, or none of them. (Dick Dastardly, Muttley, and Penelope Pitstop being the obvious exceptons though). Psychonaut3000 16:45, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separate articles for the racers? 

message: The above minor characters should be merged back here, most of the articles are small, and none of these characters are particularly notable outside of Wacky Races. I have omitted the 3 major characters as they starred in other series and are far more notable. Also WP:N states Minor characters (and places, concepts, etc.) in a work of fiction should be merged with short descriptions into a "List of characters." This list should reside in the article relating to the work itself, so this merge is in line with that policy. Pufnstuf 04:08, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The other good reasons for merging are that having seperate, tiny articles for each minor character forces Wikipedia users to visit another 5 pages just to see the same information that is already detailed in this article. The only additional thing the character stubs have are a some images of the cars, so I've merged those images into the driver list here. It's been 11 days and no one's contested this proposal, so I'm going to merge them now. Pufnstuf 23:19, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge proposal

message: I have no source for this but I am sure that when the programme Fender Bender 500 (see : here and here) was shown in the UK it used the title Wacky Races.  For years I went on about how I'd seen episodes of Wacky Races in which the competitors were the big name Hanna-Barbera characters (Yogi, Snagglepuss, Huckleberry Hound, etc.) but could never find any proof.  Also (like the user above) I knew that I'd seen episodes where  the bad guys won. Of course, whenever I watched repeats of Wacky Races quite obviously I saw the proper programme.  For a while I suspected that they'd maybe changed the format in a later series but eventually I discovered that what I had seen was actually this Fender Bender 500, in which the big names compete and the Dastardly and Muttley won races. As far as I can tell Wake, Rattle, and Roll was never shown in the UK, leaving me to believe that they shown just this cartoon segment and recycled the Wacky Races title.  Certainly I have no recollection of the name Fender Bender 500 ever being used.  Can anyone confirm this?  I've searched the internet but can't find anything to back up my claim.  The programme was shown in the morning (possibly before The Big Breakfast) in the early 90s if this helps. --Thetriangleguy 16:06, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Fender Bender 500'' in the UK

message: I think that some sort of mention should be made about the mediocrity and banality of this cartoon series - it has a lot in common with a porno movie. There's essentially no plot, just a series of unfunny, boring one-off jokes one after the other. This is important because I believe that in the pantheon of Saturday morning cartoons, this very series may mark a nadar. T.V. Guide at the time agreed, and when I get my sources together I will update the article. george 12:30, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been many years, but I remember TWR as being clever, original, and entertaining.  It was a pure slapstick cartoon inspired by old-school, two-reel slapstick shorts from the likes of the Keystone Cops and the Three Stooges, not to mention The Great Race.  So calling it plotless or repetitive kind of begs the response: "Um, yeah, your point being?" :)  Moreover, it spawned two sequels and appears on a couple of notable Best Cartoons Ever lists, most recently in a comprehensive U.K. poll in 2005.  Having said all this, I can't imagine how adding a Critical Reception section, pro and con, to this simple little article about a quirky 40-year-old cartoon would serve any encyclopedic purpose whatsoever.  Please let it be.  Dpiranha 20:28, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

text: The only thing "porno"-like about Wacky Races is the fact that the Turbo Terrific looks like a giant cock and balls, which is even more terrible when you consider the 'stretching' power it had in the early episodes. -- TripcodeMel (talk) 22:50, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Utter lack of quality should be mentioned?

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message: Dick Dastardly and Penelope Pitstop are in :Category:Fictional racecar drivers. What do people think of the idea of adding the other Wacky Racers (e.g. Ant Hill Mob, Red Max, Professor Pat Pending etc) into the category as well? DH85868993 (talk) 12:00, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Fictional racecar drivers 

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message: No Photos of the cars?  --Cooly123 23:53, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos 

message: I noticed there's the Japanese voice cast in this article. I don't it's really necessary. Should it be removed? 86.28.171.246 (talk) 21:20, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I just noticed it. Indeed, such information is obsolete here and belong in the Japanese Wikipedia. Maimai009 16:22, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese cast? 

message: The F1-style points system discussed (that places the Slag Brothers 1st) strikes me as original research; only the number of different placed finishes are found in the citation. It's also flawed on two counts. Firstly, points for 4th, 5th and 6th are not taken into account. Secondly, in 1968, a drivers worst finish from the first 6 races, and worst finish from the 2nd 6 races, were not counted for points scoring. The second aspect cannot so easily be applied to the much longer wacky races "season". M0ffx (talk) 03:08, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If you go to the section Talk:Wacky Races#Wow.... you'll find that several points systems have been discussed. I added F1, which unlike the other systems was in actual use when this show aired, only a few months ago after a tip from another poster. While the overall rankings differ, all of them place the Slags first because they take note of the fact that the Bouldermobile finished in second place nearly 24% of the time. It's true that F1 applied here is somewhat flawed, partly because only the top three were consistently mentioned in all 34 races and therefore only those points could be counted. But even without F1, the other systems - chosen by me several years ago because they eliminate ties in the overall rankings - support the conclusion that the Slags clearly won the title of the "World's Wackiest Racer" [or at least North America's - see the Lede]. — Glenn L (talk) 16:27, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "The show never indicated a particular scoring system or way to determine who won the Wacky Races as a whole." But we need closure! We absolutely must figure out who won the cartoon race competition! So hey, let's just make one up! Problem solved! --Jtalledo (talk) 13:36, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Another problem is that this is an American TV show depicting (fictional) American races. The FIA points system would not have been used if these were real events -- the series would have been sanctioned by USAC or some other domestic authority (USAC was running Championship Car, what is now the IndyCar series, at the time). I don't know how USAC's points were tabulated. Also, User:M0ffx's notes about 4th-6th finishes and low-/high-finish exclusions are well taken, and yes, this is all original research. ``` t b w i l l i e ` $1.25 ` 16:41, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

text: It's a bit of fun, you miserable killjoy. What's the harm in it? Ubertoaster (talk) 00:42, 11 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  F1-style points system is OR and flawed. 

message: And yet all the others are mentioned --86.157.125.183 (talk) 16:54, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  No mention of the GBC video game 

message: Is it definite that The Great Race was the inspiration for Wacky (sic) Races? Seems like Those Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines is also a contender - they're both from 1965 but TMMITFM was released first, and was a more successful movie. Also the Terry Thomas character with his moustache and much-abused sidekick seems more of an inspiration for Dick Dastardly.Gymnophoria (talk) 15:49, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah could be. Ref seems to be just offhand opinion of a person not necessarily in a position to know. Tagged. Herostratus (talk) 17:35, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

text: There also was a character named Pat Pending long before Wacky Races. There were some short stories. Pending and his sidekick Mark Trade were some kind of sleuths tracking down patent violators or something. Mid TwenCen, very obscure, don't recall the author. If there's anything about them on the web it'd be hard to track down because of the commonness of the terms. Herostratus (talk) 01:23, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magnificent Men in their Flying Machines 

message: Just to point out, in case there was any doubt, that American culture has officially achieved its apothesis: Wacky Raceland #1  (emphasis added). Herostratus (talk) 13:15, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Gritty reboot" 

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message: There appears to be a discrepancy between the description (under Plot) which states that Penelope usually places top three and the actual results on the table. The latter seems to indicate almost evenly distributed wins among the racers (with the obvious exception of Dick Dastardly) and Penelope just above the median for top-three finishes. QuarterNotes (talk) 15:15, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, thanks. I took that out, it was unref'd and I assume the table is right. Pitstop herself probably had one of her lackeys put that in, or maybe it was a stan. She's got lots of those, but underneath the pretty-damsel-in-distress act she's a ruthless bitch. She'll do anything for good publicity. Herostratus (talk) 01:10, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Penelope usually finishing top three vs. cumulative results table 

message: There are some WR video games that were not mentioned:
* Chiki Chiki Machine Mou Race: Kenken to Black Mao no Ijiwaru Daisakusen (3DO/Windows/Mac, 1994) 
* Chiki Chiki Machine Mou Race 2: In Space (3DO, 1995) 
Both were developed by Future Pirates and released in Japan only. Also, there's the unreleased WR for the Mega Drive by Virgin Games, which was completed but could not launched because the publisher had failed to obtain the license. --2804:D4B:79C1:9800:49BC:FF4B:5E9B:705F (talk) 20:52, 17 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video games to add 

message: In the 9th episode of Scooby-Doo and guess who it pays homage to wacky, with several cars having the numbers in circles and more characters. 2600:1700:53F4:6110:4076:C57A:41BE:357F (talk) 23:18, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scooby-Doo and guess who