Talk:Origins of vampire beliefs

message: I confess I have not read widely enough to strongly back up my claim for a political interpretation of the modern vampire myth.  I find the idea convincing and a better scholar than I may be able to draw together historical sources to support it -- assuming someone has not already done so.  If other editors want to delete this section (due to lack of supporting scholarship) that's fine by me. Wikid (talk) 08:33, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wonderful stuff. Does the ref ref the whole section or just the first bit. I put a tag there thought. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:10, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Many thanks -- I found a citation for the second bit.  I suppose I should say I find Marxist political  takes on vampirism at least as plausible as the occult theories, and certainly no less interesting Wikid (talk) 09:16, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely, I put over 600 edits into getting vampire to Featured status and pushed to include as much material on belief origin theory (eg porphyria, psychoanalysis etc.) as possible. This was the spinout article from the ever-growing  parent article. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Political interpretation

message: This page is under construction due to requests made at the Vampire FAC. The title may also need to be changed in case POV issues arise (Theoretical may mean OR to some people). Cheers, Spawn Man (talk) 05:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Note

message: I note that Calliopejen has placed this tag in the Psychopathology section. Musing on it I actually tend to agree. The article is on origin of beliefs i.e. how vampires came into being, whereas this section is on mass murderers, post-folklore 'vampires' in other words. Alhough, Gilles de Rais and Bathory have certainly become intermingled the other way and certainly infuenced some horror stories etc. Hmmmm...interesting.cheers,  Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:37, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Off topic tag

message: The idea of destroying the initial vampire and subsequent suspected victims dates back to at least the twelfth century with William of Newburgh's report of the Berwick Vampire.
This statement is sourced to a modern author, but looking at
Newburgh's report itself, I find no mention of "subsequent suspected victims" being destroyed.--91.148.159.4 (talk) 20:13, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, removed as it doesn't quite back up the contagion theory. cheers,  Casliber (talk · contribs) 20:47, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I think it might sort of back up the contagion theory (connecting the "vampire"/revenant and pestilence in one way or another), but the specific sentence about "destroying suspected victims" isn't backed up. So mentioning this story may well be relevant, just not as a source for that particular sentence.--91.148.159.4 (talk) 21:19, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious 

message: I have no references or sources for this, but I remember reading somewhere about a possible connection between Neanderthal Man and the vampire myth, ie after Neaderthals became extinct about 30,000 years ago, their memory lived on in us Homo Sapiens, which neatly explains why vampire legends are more prevalent en Europe. Maybe someone could investigate? sounds probable to me, but wouldn't include it in the article without sources. --BodegasAmbite (talk) 15:57, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: another possible origin