Talk:Fenerbahçe S.K./Archive 1

message: Some people damaged the achievements part by adding 7 European Champions' League titles to Fenerbahce. Our team would win that cup just like others but we don't have European Cup for now. I corrected the mistake. With respect,Deliogul 20:08, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also stop adding the B36 match to the best european matches. There is a great difference between B36 and Fenerbahçe SK so beating B36 can't be an achievement for Fenerbahçe. With respect,20:07, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Its Silly 

message: Marcio Nobre was not transferred to Besiktas from Fenerbahce. His loan deal from Cruzeiro was extended, and after Fenerbahce lost out on the 2005-06 season, his loan was terminated. Besiktas bought him for 2 million Euros from Cruzeiro. Please do not changed it back to Fenerbahce. Can 18:14, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marcio Nobre 

message: Edmar is not a fake player. He was bought by Fener when Zico came in and was immiedately loaned out to Bursaspor because of the foreigner restrictions. See http://www.fenerbahce.org/detay.asp?ContentID=4261 —Canbek - 张 - Esen 02:34, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes this player is really exists. With respect,Deliogul 20:08, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Edmar Gees De Souza

message: :Yes, Recep should be on loan at somewhere I don't know but of course we have to add him to the squad part. With respect, Deliogul 10:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If he's on loan to another team, he shouldn't be in the squad section, but rather list him as loaned out. —Canbek - 张 - Esen 16:53, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok but the problem is we don't know where he went on loan. With respect, Deliogul 17:46, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recep Biler

message: Ya arkadaslar, lutfen bana Stadimizin UEFA 5-yildizli stadium kategorisinde olduguna dair bir kanit gonderir misiniz? Buna cok ihtiyacim var. user:ltimur
:Kardeş, hem kendi talk page'imde hem de konunun talk page'inde birkaç şey yazdım okursan sevinirim. Şu an Vatan gazetesinin arşivinde bir haber buldum. Haberin tamamına erişilemiyor, çok eski diye silmişler galiba. Ama şöyleki; "5 yıldızlı Saraçoğlu Nyon ' da bir müjdeli haber de Şükrü Saraçoğlu Stadı ' na çıktı . UEFA Teftiş Komitesi üyelerinin 30 Eylül ' de İstanbul ' a gelerek ...". Sanırım bu yeterli bir kanıt. Saygılarımla, Deliogul 09:23, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: UEFA-5 STAR stadia

message: *The 100 year gold kit is not the away kit.
*Do not list a reserve or youth team squad, as agreed in Wikipedia:WikiProject Football - CanbekEsen 15:48, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Current revision

message: sabin ilie herhangi bir takımın notable player'ı olarak geçiyorsa, bir fenerbahçeli olarak ben o klübün vay haline derim. ne vermiş ki bu adam bu kulübe de notable player olmuş?? bütün yabancıları yazcaz diye bokunu çıkarmışsınız ünlü oyuncuların, bi de demir hotic yazın tam olsun. Scragnoth 16:02, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  sabin ilie 

message: Fenerbahce won General Harrington Cup in 1923, I add it but someone is editing article and deleting it. I will add again and please do not delete.
http://www.fenerbahce.org/kurumsaldetay.asp?ContentID=3561
http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/news/345808.asp
http://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Harrington_Kupası
Scragnoth 13:48, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  general harrington cup 

message: I really like this format for listing the current players.  It doesn't seem to be the standard wiki format though - any way we can change the standard?  (Nice to have players' year joined and former team, so that transfer histories are a bit clearer (eg, Bayern got how many players in 2007?  Oh, 6, ok)).  Jairuscobb 19:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Current Roster Format

message: I can't see Stephen Appiah in the Fenerbache squad. Is he not a player of this club? I believe he is actually. Can someone sort this thing out. Remove this after this is checked...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.202.218.230 (talk) 23:08, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing player: Stephen Appiah, number four, midfielder of Ghana

message: How do you pronounce that club's name?- SCB '92 10:18, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ç in Turkish is pronounced as tch in English. However, it would be nice if someone could add the IPA pronounciation of the word in the intro.. Baristarim 20:56, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I can tell you how to pronounce the last part (bahçe, which also means garden btw) -> Bach (the composer) put together with Che (the revolutionary), Bach-Che! I don't know how to use IPA sorry :) 81.215.13.145 09:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: "This article or section may contain inappropriate or misinterpreted citations which do not verify the text."
Misinterpreted? Do not verify the text? The link and section are the same text. This makes no sense. It seems like another anti-Fenerbahçe fan is trying to mess around again. CanbekEsen 19:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fenerbahçe's typical bla bla? This is from an official website, I'd highly doubt that the officials of such a high organization would try to release false stories. This just seems like another anti fan of the club that is trying to attack the article because they cannot accept something. CanbekEsen 00:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You can't put forward Fenerbahce's official web site as a reference to your claims. It's non sense and completely funny. Don't remove the tags, this is turning into real vandalism.--BlueEyedCat 18:43, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you seen this?. Please look into this as it has already been resolved instead of sounding ignorant. Even the Turkish version of Wikipedia has this. CanbekEsen 20:18, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Turkish wikipedia no longer has it. I fixed. NPOV. Learn what that means. How can that be an information source, searching google for words "Fenerbahçe" and "Atatürk" :)))) You are really funny :))) Now I am going to type my name and "Atatürk" to google and say that he was my friend. LOL 88.245.73.109 21:04, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you realize that the section was sourced from a reliable source? Looking at the history, I take to believe you were the one who added that section. Do you realize that you added it without any sources? A lot of negative things are posted on Wikipedia pages everyday, and you had not sourced it, which leads to suspect that rival fans may be trying to "attack" the club page. If you peek at the history, there has been several issues that we've been trying to solve. Nobody here is "claiming" he was supporter, we are just using the bare-bone information provided by the website that there was a possibility that he may have been a supporter of the club. I myself do not believe that he was a total supporter, considering football wasn't very big back then, but as I've said before, what you posted was suspect as negative info and possibly vandalism. Now that it seems you have sourced, it may stay. It does need a bit re-wording though. Also, I do suggest you refrain from personal attacks. Thank you, CanbekEsen 22:08, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You could use  tag instead of removing. When there is only Fenerbahçe offical sites opinion left, it becomes propaganda. Neyse geçti artık önemli değil :)..... Thank you, 88.245.73.109 23:53, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tags on [[Fenerbah%C3%A7e_S.K.#Atat.C3.BCrk_and_Fenerbah.C3.A7e|Atatürk and Fenerbahçe]] section

message: Article must mention sth about recent fraud claims (chicanery, illegal incentive premium) investigated by TFF.--BlueEyedCat 18:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not. CanbekEsen 20:14, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just look at Juventus article. There's nothing wrong with it. I'm sure article must mention about fraud claims.--BlueEyedCat 20:54, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Look If I would say that Bush won the elections by the help of the mafia and show some "sources" to support my claim, how important and worth discussing it would be? The man who made the fraud claim is an ordinary restaurant manager. Some argues that he has serious mental and economic problems which possibly let him to make such claims. Do we really have to mention a restaurant managers claims here just because he made his show on a national tv channel? Saygılarımla, Deliogul 21:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See, that's the thing. These are "claims", not actual facts. If you would look at the link I had posted, you'd see that what I am talking about is in that link. CanbekEsen 22:27, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So you put ordinary people's claim of Ataturk being a Fenerbahce fan into Wikipedia, but you're against of putting fraud claims. I guess debate is over. Just choose one of them, either remove both Ataturk claims or put both of them.--BlueEyedCat 20:14, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe other Fenerbaçe fans will get angry to me but personally I don't care if Mustafa Kemal Pasha was a fan or not and actually I think he wasn't supporting any clubs but he was proud of Fenerbahçe because of the team's achievements and heroic helps to the Independence War. On the other hand, a restaurant manager is an ordinary guy but people who claim that Mustafa Kemal Pasha was a fan of Fenerbahçe were not ordinary people. Saygılarımla, Deliogul 20:31, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article must mention sth about recent fraud claims (chicanery, illegal incentive premium) investigated by TFF 

message: I nominated the article of Turkish Super League to be the next article to be upgraded by the Wikipedia community. Please go to this page and vote for our league. We need at least 3 votes to win!.Haydi Beyler, Deliogul 16:22, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sovyetler Birliği milli takımının article'ına yenildik bu hafta ama bir dahaki hafta için şansımız devam ediyor.Yukardaki linke tıklayıp bir oy atın da Süper Lig'i featured article yapalım. Deliogul 11:39, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkish Super League 

message: Turkcell Super League article is choosen as the football collaboration of the week! Please help expanding the article. Oy atanlara büyük teşekkür. Deliogul 14:28, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zaferrr! 

message: In the turkish wikipedia the hom,e and away colours are exactly the OPPOSITE. Now which are the real ones??? --Teemeah Gül Bahçesi 11:11, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Colours

message: Well, I really couldn't give two hoots either way about which club he was supporting. Particularly since back when he lived all the three major clubs were nothing more than amateurish weekend gatherings. It was only after the WW2 that football became something close to professional, both in Europe and Turkey. However, if there is going to be a claim it should be clearly stated who is making the claim. Baristarim 01:06, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the last edit about Atatürk section made it more objective. Please don't revert those claims. Deliogul 20:01, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no reliable source referenced for this moderately contentious section, so I have removed it completely. Ilikeeatingwaffles (talk) 09:49, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ataturk 

message: I see some people re-adding links to various fan/spam/blog websites. I say keep Antu.com because they are somewhat of an "official" fan website of Fenerbahce. I don't think we need the others. CanbekEsen 23:14, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Fenerbahce hqfl logo.png

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Turkcell Super League logo.jpg

message: Can anyone explain why this was brought back even though it was replaced with a few paragraphs and a link to another page with many of the notable enough players? Just because a foreigner played for the club doesn't make him notable enough. CAN 21:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable players list 

message: Very strange to play for Gokhan Cetin should not play he  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.84.14.251 (talk) 00:16, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  team ranking  

message: 1-0. Congrats !! I think we should have something like Galatasaray S.K.#Great_Matches_in_Europe here.  I came here to add the game to such a section. DenizTC 20:50, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: With all my respect to the scores, I think this kind of section is useless, unless the games played as semi-finals or final matches. For example GS beat Liverpool last year because that livepool was already qualified before the match. And this year Inter was missing many of their players, due to health conditions and punishments that came from last years game against Valencia.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.240.17.133 (talk) 02:59, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Zanetti, Stankovic, Ibrahimovic, Cambiasso, Solari, Walter Samuel". These are world famous players that started at the first eleven of Inter. Then Mancini also used Figo and Crespo. I also think that such a section is useless but beating a squad like this is not an easy thing and when you consider that Fenerbahçe dominated the game, this is clearly a success. Deliogul 09:07, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Barca won 5-0 against same Inter last month, that is what domination is. --88.240.17.133 16:52, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  fenerbahce -inter 

message: İyi derecede ingilizce bilen bir arkdaşımız bir Fenerium sayfasa hazırlasa tam süper olacak.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.161.29.211 (talk) 04:32, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: it will probably fail to meet WP:CORP --88.240.23.45 (talk) 23:11, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fenerium sayfası?