Talk:Paul Gogarty

message: Here is what the official debates recorded of what he said before the incident: – Kaihsu (talk) 22:54, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
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message: I am seeking consensus to shorten this article considerably.
In my opinion, it is overly long for any backbench TD. Disputed reports, which require lengthy explanation, rebuttal or qualification do not, in my view, add significant quality. References to his limited involvement in the Ivor Callely Affair and his daughter’s presence during a press conference should be excised.
I also feel that it is well spiced with irrelevant information. Examples include Gogarty’s national school, his response to a dual mandate, extensive follow-up on his swearing in the Dail, relatively detailed account of the loss of his seat and expansive passages on his 18-months after politics. 
I am concerned that this article has been driven by one editor alone, and by my impression that this editor has a considerable conflict of interest. I would draw Darepng’s attention to wikipedia’s advice regarding writing articles autobiographically and about those with whom we have a close relationship, as well as their notes on self-promotion.
I suggest adopting a scaled-back version of this article under one header, in line with other articles about former backbench TDs. An introduction, tightened paragraph on his early life and naming his successful and unsuccessful elections should suffice. I would also suggest the inclusion of one achievement and one controversy, ‘for colour’. My submission below details his contribution to education policy and references his swearing in the Dail.
“Paul Nicholas Gogarty (born 20 December 1968) is a former Irish Green Party politician. He was a Teachta Dala (TD) for the Dublin Mid-West constituency from 2002 to 2011.
Gogarty lived in Palmerstown and Lucan in early life and was educated at Colasite Padraig, Lucan. He studied journalism at Dublin Institute of Technology and worked as a journalist before his election to the Dail in 2002.
Gogarty joined the Green Party in 1989. After unsuccessful runs in the 1991 local election, 1992 General Election, 1996 Dublin-West By-election and 1997 General Election, he topped the poll and was elected in the Lucan electoral area in 1999. Three years later, he was elected to the Dail for the new Dublin Mid-West constituency in the 2002 General Election, and was re-elected in 2007.
From 2002 to 2011, he served as the Green Party’s Education Spokesperson, developing the Party’s ’50 Steps to a Better Education System’. Following the Green Party’s entry into government in 2007, Gogarty was appointed Chairman of the Oireachtas Committee on Education and Science.
Gogarty is best known for swearing at Labour Party TD Emmet Stagg during a Dail debate on the 11 December 2009.
Gogarty lost his seat at the 2011 General Election.”
I look forward to reading your comments. AE787564 (talk) 21:40, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that would be going too far. It's a lot shorter than it used to be! I don't accept your reasoning that its long for a backbench TD, there is no such criteria on Wikipedia. Snappy (talk) 20:11, 10 August 2012 (UTC)
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