Talk:Chevrolet Cavalier

message: "Designed straight off the drawing board"?  As opposed to some other way?  I changed it to "produced", what the original writer obviously intended.  Trekphiler 04:53, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Straight off the drawing board 

message: I made a big change by adding "for over a decade they went, but were then discontinued" :) Whopper 02:37, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes made 

message: The Vega was the direct predecessor of the Monza (although both the Vega and the Vega-derived Monza were sold together for a time) and the Monza was the direct predecessor of the Cavalier.
75.33.81.8 09:53, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You know that, I know that, anyone with half a brain cell's worth of common sense knows that. But believe it or not we had to argue about this with "matador300", née Wiarthurhu. Not surprisingly this user was banned indefinitely from editing. --93JC 03:12, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Predecessor was the Monza

message: Contrary to User:Wiarthurhu's claim in his edit summary, User:ApolloBoy did not remove "sourced edits"; as can be seen from the diff of the revert, the only things that were restored were a questionable paragraph and two nondescript external links. ApolloBoy's edits seem to have been a sucessful attempt to tidy the content which User:Jnelson09 thought was worthy of a  tag.
Comparing the two, I see less POV in ApolloBoy's edit. I'd favour keeping his tidied version, rather than Wiarthurhu's. --DeLarge 23:38, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits/reversions, 21-22 August 2006 

message: There were only two generations of Cavalier, this "Second Generation Phase One and Two" are exactly the same as the "First Generation", They were given a whole new design in '94
:Only someone who has never owned/worked on/seen in person both a 1st (82-87) AND 2nd Gen (88-94) J body would make an ignorant statement like that. There are so many things wrong with it, I don't know where to begin. 
:While there are some similarities with cosmetic interior parts between 1st Gen & 2nd Gen (P1), there are many differences. Once 2nd gen reached P2, even the interior parts are completely different. AFAIK, there isn't a single exterior body part on a 2nd gen that will work (without modification) on a 1st gen without transferring say, the entire front clip (it's been done in both directions) creating a 1st/2nd gen hybrid.
:Regarding the "whole new design" in '94 -- it's actually '95. 1994 was the last year of the 2nd gen J body. Other than mostly cosmetic changes, there are *many* mechanical parts completely interchangeable from 88-05, and some even from 82-05. If you use entire assemblies instead of individual parts many more of those same parts are compatible with all years & makes of the J body. That doesn't mean that there are only 2 or 1 generations of the J platform, that's just GM recycling parts to reduce developmental & manufacturing costs.
:I could really go on with this for a while, but it's not worth my time. Just stick to cars you know friend, the less guessing when it comes to wikipedia the better. ;) Toastysoul 02:02, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Only Two Generations

message: Couple issues:
:1. The article does not need so many pictures, the modified cavalier and the last picture with the time stamp in the lower right hand corner can both go.
:2. Does anyone know the horsepower and torque ratings for the engines? I tried to look through all the tables relating to the engines and years of engine production and the info seemed incomplete. I dont see why we can't put all this info into one easy to read chart with all relevant info included. --Nytemunkey 20:09, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: At the very least there was also a 2.4L engine available in the LS model as well as the Z24 (thus the nomenclature) which isn't in the article. --MtB (talk) 03:33, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I think we need to rewrite this article completely from scratch again. Karrmann 22:57, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 151.213.106.167 01:27, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: "Both platforms had conventional rear-drive layouts which suffered in comparison with more efficient front wheel drive offerings such as the Toyota Corolla and Honda Civic"
The Toyota Corolla was rear wheel drive, carburettered and break-point ignition (base models) until 1985.  So how was it 'more efficient' ?203.39.81.92 (talk) 05:06, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toyota 

message: The Japanese have long held off on the kind of unreasonable emissions laws that originated in the US. Did the Toyota Cavalier gain from any removal of unnecessary emissions gear? Nevard (talk) 12:59, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toyota Cavalier- any power upgrades 

message: Can we get a source on who and where it is called that? I have NEVER heard it referred to as that. However, I do call my car my "Cavy", so that part I can understand. KnightCrusader (talk) 16:02, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Savvy Cavy? 

message: I've been working to try and get the Cavalier page back and organized. Someone screwed this page up months ago and now there is very little general info on it. Last night I revamped the second gen page with random facts arranged in a timeline. I plan to do this with the first and third gens too once I get a better hang of editing wiki pages. ScoobyDoo82  —Preceding undated comment added 20:58, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revamped 2nd gen section 

message: "In 1989, the steering column was redesigned to be collapsible"
What ?!!  Collapsible steering columns became mandatory in 1968 :
(Ref :http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/regrev/evaluate/pdf/809834Part2.pdf, p. 11 : 
"FMVSS 203/204 became effective on January 1, 1968 (passenger cars) and September 1, 1981 (multipurpose passenger vehicles, trucks, and buses)", 
"FMVSS 203 requires that the impact force developed on the chest not to exceed a safe level of 2500 pounds from the steering column during an impact of 15 mph. This is accomplished by designing the column to collapse at a controlled rate upon impact")
Could the author of this statement please rephrase this ?  203.26.122.12 (talk) 01:47, 23 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed.  This paragraph will self destruct.123.3.24.16 (talk) 11:37, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collapsible steering column 

message: I think this is a no-brainer. A lot of badge-engineered cars have had their articles merged. (see: Suzuki Cultus) However, I do think that some J-body nameplates need to be left out.
*Buick Skyhawk - Had it's own life on the H-body platform before moving to the J-body in 1982.
*Pontiac Sunbird - Same as the Buick Skyhawk, had it's own life on the H-body platform prior to 1982.
*Cadillac Cimarron - Car has it's own lasting legacy that warrants its own separate article.
The Olds Firenza and Pontiac Sunfire can easily be merged into the Cavalier's article, since these were one-generation J-body cars that don't carry a negative stigma like the Cadillac Cimarron.
Anyone else supports a merger? Jgera5 (talk) 16:11, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be against it. Sorry. Fx6893 (talk) 05:48, 15 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: Just putting these links here before they get lost, still need to verify if info in article matches info in links.
* media.gm.com/dam/Media/documents/CA/Archives/EN/Vehicles/chevrolet/1996Cavalier.html
* media.gm.com/dam/Media/documents/CA/Archives/EN/Vehicles/chevrolet/1997Cavalier.html
* media.gm.com/dam/Media/documents/CA/Archives/EN/Vehicles/chevrolet/1998Cavalier.html
* media.gm.com/dam/Media/documents/CA/Archives/EN/Vehicles/chevrolet/1999Cavalier.html
* media.gm.com/dam/Media/documents/CA/Archives/EN/Vehicles/chevrolet/2000Cavalier.html
* media.gm.com/dam/Media/documents/CA/Archives/EN/Vehicles/chevrolet/2001Cavalier.html
* media.gm.com/dam/Media/documents/CA/Archives/EN/Vehicles/chevrolet/2002Cavalier.html
* media.gm.com/dam/Media/documents/CA/Archives/EN/Vehicles/chevrolet/2003Cavalier.html
* media.gm.com/dam/Media/documents/CA/Archives/EN/Vehicles/chevrolet/2004Cavalier.html
* media.gm.com/dam/Media/documents/CA/Archives/EN/Vehicles/chevrolet/2005Cavalier.html
VX1NG (talk) 19:26, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info for Gen II 

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message: For those who can't get this article, here's the typed version of it:
The Chevy Cavalier must be one whale of a car; it's taking two cars to replace it. The 2004 Chevy Aveo will arrive in January to court the old Cav's budget-conscious buyers, while the 2005 Chevy Cobalt debuts later next year to woo "premium small car" buers. The double dip was necessitated, said Timothy Techlin, performance manager for Aveo, by a dilemma General Motors has faced for yearsl battling entry-level econo-cars like the Kia Rio and Hyundai Accent with highly incentivized, deeply discounted, low-trim-level Cavaliers while, at the same time, facing such champagne econo-rides as the Honda Civic and Toyota Corolla with tricked out versions of that same Cavalier. That's too much to ask of one car, Techlin said. "Cavalier was doing double duty, trying to appeal to the premium small car buyer and the entry-level car buyer." he said. "Now, Aveo will come in to appeal to the value shoppers, and Cobalt will appeal to the permium small car buyer."
Source: https://www.newspapers.com/clip/95868764/cavalier-replacement-cars/
I am changing this to add Aveo to the list, per the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1702:3AE0:4760:B820:6D13:17E9:270 (talk) 04:58, 21 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  2003 article calling Aveo and Cobalt Cavalier replacements