Talk:Jovan Divjak

message: I would personally shorten the opening lines to simply state that he is of Orthodox faith. I don't think there is major need to state that he declares Bosnian since there are too many issues that can cause confusion for readers that are not versed in the region's ethno-religious designations. The trouble is that one may click on the Bosnians link and then lose his thread because of the extremely long article. Some people declare Bosnian and consider themselves different from a Bosniak, others may argue that they are one and the same thing. It is a fact that a respectable percentage of non-Muslim faith persons from BiH declare Bosniak (or Bosnian) though outside of BiH, such as in the Sandžak areas of Serbia and Montenegro, it is unlikely there that non-Muslims will declare Bosniak except in cases where he chooses to be atheist and his parents are Bosniak, and even then he will still have an identifiable surname suggesting Muslim. The ARBiH did not contain Muslim in the title, it was branded internatioanlly as the Muslim army (and did receive support from Mujahideens) but was nevertheless ostensibly an entity that claimed to represent all of Bosnia's nations. In addition, most persons from outside the former Yugoslavia probably do not know about the consistency and tradition across a wide region with Croats being Catholic, Bosniaks being Muslim and Serbs being Orthodox, and as everyone from inside the sphere knows, those are major generalisations. So, regardless what his parents were, he fought for the ARBiH and declared Bosnian, but came from an Orthodox family, therefore I'd leave out "declared Bosnian" so early in the article, since his military affiliation more or less suggests that, why don't we just give his rank and say that he was of Orthodox faith. --Oranges Juicy (talk) 13:34, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree on this. Moreover, I cannot remember any article that stresses out subject's nationality in the intro. Why is that important for the intro? I'd agree to replace this part somewhere else in the article. Also, I would argue that we should add that he had little or no influence in the Army, as he was treated as a "flower arrangement" and was excluded from the decision making process. This is clearly important, since the intro states he was a Deputy Commander of the Army, and therefore could lead a reader to a wrong conclusion. Although he was a Deputy Commander of the Army, his factual role within the Army was minor with little influence. --Yerevani Axjik (talk) 15:50, 1 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: If the subject had little influence in the Army of the Republic of BiH, then why does he have such a long wiki? The main reason he is known and so popular is that he was born into an Orthodox family but identifies as Bosnian and fought alongside Bosnians during the war against the Serb attackers.--Sabahudin9 (talk) 07:14, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Lol. If that's the main reason he's known, then he indeed had no influence in the Army. XD --Yerevani Axjik (talk) 13:37, 2 May 2015 (UTC)

text: He is a orthodox bosniak ,  Not all bosniaks are 87.247.136.25 (talk) 04:40, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
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