Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting/Girl Guiding and Girl Scouting task force

message: I've recently suggested some moves/renamings that aim to clear up confusion regarding the various Guide/Guides/Guiding (and Girl Scout equivalent) pages and what each page is about. Details and comments at Talk:Girl Guides. Kingbird (talk) 06:59, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This matter has developed further and is now being discussed at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Scouting#Girl Guiding and Girl Scouting article modifications. Kingbird (talk) 06:11, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moves 

message: If anyone is interested, there is a wiki about Girlguiding UK matters here. Kingbird (talk) 04:29, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiGuider 

message: I have just created a start to Girlguiding North West England and I will have a go at Girlguiding South West England soon. Only the latter is now missing. At least I used in live in the NW Region for many years-:). I have also created a template for these regions to go at the bottom of the article. There is problem with the four history references on Girlguiding UK. I am not sure whether they are now dead or whether they need you to login. Can someone check these? All these articles need some third party references like the BBC noticing the Guides in various places. I'm sure they are there somewhere.  --Bduke  (Discussion) 23:25, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: History: With every relaunch of the website, they are moving content around. Link is http://www.girlguiding.org.uk/xq/asp/sID.905/aID.275/qx/whoweare/article.asp --jergen (talk) 07:12, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I have fixed that link and I have also written Girlguiding South West England to complete the set. It is interesting that these two Regions include the Isle of Man, Guernsey and Jersey that are not even part of the UK. This is very different from the Scout Association. --Bduke  (Discussion) 08:26, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Girlguiding UK matters

message: I've been trying to update some info in the various states since the realignment is now about 80% done.  A collection of maps can be found at User:Erp/Sandbox GS, but, I need info and input. In addition I've put up the realignment plan as of 2006 and have annotated a bit as for which ones are complete. Should I put up a section in the task force page on what should be done on each state?  My thoughts are 
#history of Girl Scouts in the State
#A list of council names both those with headquarters in the state (in which case the main info is here for that council) and those that serve part of the state
#Ideally a map showing the council boundaries, council headquarters, service centers and camps. I've been using the wikipedia state county maps and inkscape to do this for some states.  However a few gotchas when council boundaries don't follow county boundaries.
#For each council
##Give headquarters
##Give Service Centers
##Give Web site
##Give camps both in council and out of council
##How many girls served and how many volunteers
##Other notable facts
Other thoughts?--Erp (talk) 00:18, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you've been doing a great job, and thank you! Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 02:18, 3 December 2008 (UTC)

text: Chris asked on the main page about Guam, American Samoa, Puerto Rico, US Virgin Islands etc.  Actually Puerto Rico is on the table I have.  The others aren't under the Girl Scout Council Finder but instead seem to be committees under USA Girl Scouts Overseas. Guam does seem to be titled a council but not in the main list of councils.  --Erp (talk) 04:39, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to help but I'm not sure how. I'm probably most useful re-writing information given on Council web pages. Could you suggest a specific task I could tackle over the next few weeks? Kingbird (talk) 04:02, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we need to do a once through on all the states so that at least the post realignment info is in place.  The ones with maps have usually been done.  The ones without, not.  I'm making a stab at California but I'm not even sure the GSUSA council finder page is accurate on which councils serve girls in that state.  Do you want to try Scouting in Texas?  It hasn't finished realignment but I think only one council is left to be formed and it is one of the more complex states left (I've more or less done New York's map just not uploaded).  If you can get me a list of counties per council, I can start making the svg map and put it up in my sandbox (I've put an entry in for Texas with a list of the current councils from the Girl Scout Council finder and you can add the counties if you are interested).  From there we can work to Scouting in Oklahoma, Scouting in Arkansas, Scouting in New Mexico.  Some of the mergers means that the new council web sites aren't complete (e.g., camps).  (BTW I wonder how many Camp Sacajaweas there are in the US.  I think there are 3 in New Jersey alone.)  In the long run I would like to get more history and get proper referencing.  For instance Camp Daisy Hindman in Scouting in Kansas which was founded in 1929 and eventually named after one of the early Scouters in Kansas who saw the need and worked to create the camp and its later expansion.  But we haven't even gotten to starter level for many of the states, alas.  --Erp (talk) 06:22, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

text: Okay, I'll take on Texas. Kingbird (talk) 02:35, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Girl Scouting by State (USA) 

message: Once the US Girl Scout stuff is updated, (and thank you so much for that!), can you look at the Scouting in... articles for Canada? Most of the provinces are in sore repair, the Girl Guides of Canada sections for Ontario and Yukon had even been removed! That speaks of both arrogance or ignorance by some editors, and neglect or lack of interest by others. Those needing provincial emblem images also are:
*British Columbia Council of Girl Guides of Canada
*Saskatchewan Council of Girl Guides of Canada
*Manitoba Council of Girl Guides of Canada
*Ontario Council of Girl Guides of Canada
*Québec Council of Girl Guides of Canada
*Nova Scotia Council of Girl Guides of Canada
*Prince Edward Island Council of Girl Guides of Canada
*Newfoundland Council of Girl Guides of Canada
*Yukon Council of Girl Guides of Canada
Thanks, Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:58, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, ho. I'll keep in mind that this needs work, but I can't commit to anything at the moment. Kingbird (talk) 00:10, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've put in a table for tallying up work done.  I note that Yukon and Northwest seem to have been put under the aegis of Alberta's Provincial council in 2007 and Nunavut under Ontario.  Within each province are areas and we should probably work on those.--Erp (talk) 02:42, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm a Guider in Alberta.  Will find you the logos for the missing provinces and improve the Guiding Section on the Alberta page.KizzyB (talk) 09:06, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

text: Thank you so much!--Kintetsubuffalo (talk) 11:46, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Girl Guides of Canada missing 

message: This link leads to a series of chronological bits of history. It has a bias to Australia, but could be useful and I have not seen it used yet. --Bduke  (Discussion) 23:37, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good History source 

message: I've put up a query on standards and possible overhaul for these articles at WikiProject Scouting.  If interested, please join the conversation over there. --Erp (talk) 02:18, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scouting in XXX (USA) articles 

message: This is in the resources section of the overall project but
Proctor, Tammy M. "On my honour": Guides and Scouts in interwar Britain, 2002,
http://books.google.com/books?id=4y0LAAAAIAAJ
has quite a bit of info on pre-WW2 Guiding (as well as Scouting) in Britain (and the overall world movement).  Including some interesting stuff on early changes in Guiding (e.g., why and how did Agnes Baden-Powell get replaced by Olave Baden-Powell and what else happened).   This is an academic paper (180 pages) and originally a dissertation.  The brief snippets I've read so far remove some of the sugar coating that scout manuals/webpages often give on the history.--Erp (talk) 07:48, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interesting source for UK guiding 

message: I have finally completed the job I started a long time ago and moved all articles on Australian States and Territories to be "Scouting and Guiding in XXX". These are:
:Australian Capital TerritoryNew South WalesNorthern TerritoryQueenslandSouth AustraliaTasmaniaVictoriaWestern Australia
They still need a lot of work. I could find little about Guiding history, for example. Infoboxes for the Guide sections are needed. I have tagged the talk pages with this task force. --Bduke  (Discussion) 04:33, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your hard work on this topic, Bduke. I am interested in helping improve these article with more Guiding information, but I can't make a specific commitment at the moment. Kingbird (talk) 02:36, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australian States and Territories 

message: WAGGGS says that the Caribbean Link for Guiding has 21 member organisations. I can only track down 20. Can anyone help? Kingbird (talk) 23:16, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps Haiti - Association Nationale des Guides d'Haïti, see . There is also a similar subregional organization for Central America: "Central American Gathering/Encuentro Centroamericano", http://western.wagggsworld.org/en/about/groups/ -jergen (talk) 08:40, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caribbean Link - missing member 

message: The website of WAGGGS (http://www.wagggs.org/en/world) was recently updated with lots of new information on the member organizations - as far as I could see, the site contains now the integral of "Trefoil Round the World". Luckily, the structure of the site was not changed, so most or all links are still valid. But there is plenty new content that should be integrated in the articles. --jergen (talk) 08:55, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you Jergen! --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 09:08, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent update of WAGGGS website 

message: I don't know if/how we can use these, but I found http://www.flickr.com/groups/girlguidesandgirlscouts/pool/page2/ --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 18:26, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing out this resource. There are some good photos of badges and uniforms in there. Kingbird (talk) 21:19, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  http://www.flickr.com/groups/girlguidesandgirlscouts/pool/page2/ 

message: Happy Thinking Day to all in the task force! Kingbird (talk) 17:52, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: To you as well, and thank you all for your hard work! As we say in Japan, お疲れ様です！ --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 13:20, 23 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thinking Day 2010 

message: I have chosen an all Girl Scout/Guide theme for the March 2010 portal. I've had themes before, like the Netherlands one. Help in this in the future appreciated.  — Rlevse • Talk •  17:44, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Jergen has given me a great set of German articles for April, can others put articles and pics for other themes on the portal candidates pages? Aussie, Brit, Indian, whatever, thanks! — Rlevse • Talk •  19:33, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If we can find free-use pics of Japanese Girl Scouts, they are adorable and have the nicest old-school uniforms! They are everywhere here, helping out all over the place, but my only camera is my phone. Any suggestions where I can look on the Internet for free ones? --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 07:55, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Further, I have asked User:Kasuga to make a Girl Scout/Guide version of Wikipe-tan, the Wikipedia mascot, but thus far no answer. --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 07:55, 1 March 2010 (UTC)

text: ps-update, take a look at what's brewing at Wikipedia:Graphic Lab/Illustration workshop#Wikipedia:Wikipe-tan! Wikipedia can be fun! --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 11:56, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Many Japanese love photography, I'm sure one of your friends has a good digital camera they can use to take free Scout pics.  — Rlevse • Talk •  00:42, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: March portal theme

message: This site seems to be down at the moment, but it's a great visual historical reference! --Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 23:30, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  www.vintagegirlscout.com 

message: This website may provide needed graphics, and apparently there is some agreement between Flickr and Wikipedia, please have a look!--Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 05:01, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  http://www.flickr.com/groups/girlguidesandgirlscouts 

message: --Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:30, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  I just found this, sounds deserving of an article, anyone? 

message: Please take a look at Pax Lodge. If you look at the article in the editor, a lot of the paragraphs start with an indent, although this does not show in the article view itself. That looks to me that they are direct cut and paste from somewhere else so there may be a copyright issue here. --Bduke  (Discussion) 00:05, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The same text shows up at http://www.paxlodge.org/en/ourworldcentre/History , it was introduced in 2009 to the article by User:Paxlodge . This may hint at an allowed usage, but I'm not quite sure about this. The article has further issues, in 2008 User:Chezzi2 inserted the wording of a song . Judging from the content of these edits, this was also done by somebody working for Pax Lodge. --jergen (talk) 10:36, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.paxlodge.org/en/ourworldcentre/History has a copyright tag for WAGGGS, so it looks like it is a copyvio. We need to remove that material, but I am off to bed now. --Bduke  (Discussion) 10:50, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pax Lodge