Talk:Patricia Highsmith

message: Patricia Highsmith was not bisexual, but a lesbian.  Highsmith herself preferred the terms "gay" or "queer".  This has been fixed in the article.
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"she has been accused of racism, antisemitism, and even misogyny" - Accused by whom, on what grounds, and with what justification? PhilipC 04:06, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
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message: Any new awards? 141.157.83.56 12:13, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: awards

message: "She was sometimes labelled antisemitic because of her support of Palestinian independance (she dedicated two novels to the Palestinian people.)" -> Exactly which novels are you referring to?  Please explain by giving the name of the novels. 141.157.83.56 11:55, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: please explain

message: Can anyone find a new picture of highsmith to place on the article?
: Wow, talk about "man-hands"! 38.115.185.4 (talk) 17:13, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: new pictures?

message: Thank you for the new pictures 141.157.74.120 02:12, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: new pictures

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message: The article lists her as having many affairs with men and women, when her most recent biographer puts her last relationship with a man in 1949 (again, Mark Brandell). And one of the links under the bio says "bisexual." The article still creates an inference that is not true. Highsmith was gay.--Mjstreet (talk) 07:04, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What correction?  

message: can we cut it out with this bullshit please  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.57.181.115 (talk) 14:37, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "suspected she may have had Asperger's" 

message: I don't know whether it would be considered an authoritative source or not, since I don't know the rules, but she is included in the following book:
Asperger's syndrome and high achievement : some very remarkable people / Ioan James.
by James, I. M. (Ioan Mackenzie), 1928-  
London ; Philadelphia : Jessica Kingsley, 2006. 
Songflower (talk) 19:10, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re:  Whether she had Asperger's 

message: Sources should be in-line citations.Xb2u7Zjzc32 (talk) 09:35, 29 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: It's best to cite a secondary source for this. Here are two secondary sources that mention selling a million: New Yorker, Vulture. Lapadite (talk) 01:15, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll get to it within the next 24 hrs. Vulture is the better source (the "over one million" has been tossed around and repeated, but I haven't found a means to verify the claim). Pyxis Solitary (talk) 15:29, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  PoS, a million sold 

message: A word of advice for those unfamiliar with WP's guidelines for quotes. Per Quotations#Specific recommendations: "All quotes should be treated the same...The quote can simply be indented using a colon and enclosed in quotation marks."
Re block quotations, per MOS:BLOCKQUOTE: "Do not enclose block quotations in quotation marks (and especially avoid decorative quotation marks in normal use, such as those provided by the  template)."
The only exception would be if you're quoting Patricia Highsmith, or a sentence or two from one of her works. In this case, using text would be appropriate. The decorative Cquote may be acceptable depending on how it's used on the page. Pyxis Solitary (talk) 08:40, 19 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quoting critics, scholars, authors 

message: Wikipedia's Manual of Style (MOS) for biography articles is found here: WP:MOSBIO.  In the search box on the right margin you will find under Layout the guidelines for article structure.  You will also find a  sample of article layout.
I think we can all agree that every editor has great ideas for how things could be done differently ... but Wikipedia has policies and guidelines in place that all editors are expected to follow. Think of it this way: when you play chess, checkers, monopoly, dominoes, mahjong, poker, baseball, rugby, soccer, football, basketball, hockey — any game and sport — you play by the rules. Editing Wikipedia is no different. Pyxis Solitary (talk) 13:19, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Layout of article 

message: Regarding the recent kerfuffle over the wording of the second sentence of the paragraph, namely:
"Her first novel, Strangers on a Train, has been adapted for stage and screen numerous times, notably by Alfred Hitchcock in 1951."
FYI, this sentence comes from the description of Highsmith provided by publishers to libraries and appears in their online summary about her. For example, you find it in the third paragraph of the Author Notes in the Summary section for Little Tales of Misogyny by British public library service,  LibrariesWest: 
The only difference between the library summary and the Wikipedia article is the changing of "was adapted" to "has been adapted".
You will also find it, for example, in the AUTHOR NOTES section within the "Summary/Reviews" tab of the  Buffalo & Erie County Public Library, and the Author Notes in the "Summary" by the  Washington County Library System. You'll find booksellers, such as Quill & Brush, using a similar description for  a first edition of  Strangers on a Train: "This title has been adapted for stage and screen numerous times, notably by Alfred Hitchcock in 1951." Pyxis Solitary (talk) 03:08, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening paragraph: "...notably by Alfred Hitchcock in 1951" 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Not sure if the picture of her tv appearance is now in the right place. The image may not have been correctly placed before but it doesn't seem to fit with sections on Religious, racial and ethnic views / Politics / Israel, given how specific her appearance on the programme was and how closely that programme ("How Do You Survive a Murder?") related to what she is best known for, see here. What do others think? AnOpenMedium (talk) 16:30, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Having the image in the //Sexuality// section did not make sense and that's why, per WP:BOLD, I  moved it to a different area of the page. I tried positioning it in other sections, but the insufficient amount of text in them caused the image to spill into the section that followed and altered the page layout. The only other area where it can be located without creating the layout issue is the space between the //Writing history// and //Comic books// sections. Pyxis Solitary  yak 10:57, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, yes I see the problem! I've just tried another place, which (based on the description of what she did on the programme) seems to complement the nearby text pretty well. What do you think? AnOpenMedium (talk) 11:08, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's now a little crowded. You have the infobox - residence - After Dark files, one after the other, and the next image on the page is The Talented Mr. Ripley file. She's an author and her appearance on After Dark was because she was an author, so I think that the best location for the file would be in the //Writing history// section. Pyxis Solitary  yak 12:02, 8 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''After Dark'' image? 

message: I have just corrected the statement that she wrotie the “first lesbian novel with a happy ending.”
I suspect this was a misinterpretation of the line in Marijane Meakers' memoir recalling that it was “the only” such story available. 
Most of the past is lost to us. Firsts are often very hard to pin down. Superlatives almost always require qualifiers: first known; first known English-language; first known English-language 20th-century; and so on, sometimes to the point of absurdity. 
Ms. Meakers' tribute and Ms Highsmith's achievement are not diminished by this.Merry medievalist (talk) 18:18, 21 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: "" – What you "suspect" is strictly your point of view. But your POV doesn't decide what is or isn't included in a Wikipedia article.   "" – That's your opinion. But if Marijane Meakers, who is not only an authority on lesbian fiction but also an author of lesbian-theme fiction during the 50s-60s (under pen names), says it is the first lesbian novel with a happy ending ... then that is what the article can also state.   Meakers wrote: "...Pat was revered for her pseudonymous novel, The Price of Salt, which had been published in 1952 by Coward McCann. It was for many years the only lesbian novel, in either hard or soft cover, with a happy ending."  Meakers' memoir is cited several times in the article (and if you had bothered to look at the references you would not have assumed that   you creating a citation for the Meakers book was the first time that it was being used as a source).  The article also includes the following quote:  "The appeal of The Price of Salt was that it had a happy ending for its two main characters, or at least they were going to try to have a future together. Prior to this book, homosexuals male and female in American novels had had to pay for their deviation by cutting their wrists, drowning themselves in a swimming pool, or by switching to heterosexuality (so it was stated), or by collapsing – alone and miserable and shunned – into a depression equal to hell." —  "Happily ever after, at last: Patricia Highsmith on the inspiration for Carol". Patricia Highsmith (11 November 2015). The Telegraph.  If you want to go against Meakers and remove content sourced to her memoir: seek consensus for it. Pyxis Solitary  (yak). L not Q. 14:27, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unknowable Firsts