Talk:Andrey Arshavin

message: Andrei Arshavin normally is an outfield player but ever since signing to Arsenal F.C. the manager, Arsene Wenger being a grade A bigot. He has placed Andrei Arshavin at the mouth of goal. All the other players have some sort of African heritage playing outfield. This has caused alot of tumult and controversy.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.38.201.5 (talk) 10:20, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goalkeeping 

message: This article has been renamed from Andrey Arshavin to Andrei Arshavin as the result of a move request. See Talk:Vyacheslav Malafeev for an archive of the proposal. — Ash063 09:48, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article has been renamed 

message: Would be nice if people called my country's team right (The Netherlands)... We aren't simply named "Holland" you know.. ADB15 (talk) 21:25, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks to me you are simply holland and lost of russia. 77.248.185.98 (talk) 21:42, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically only 2 provinces of the lowlands make up Holland but even man.y dutch people call the country holland in england. Look at interviews with van Basten  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.65.102.49 (talk) 00:17, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I know that but our team is officially named the Netherlands and since this is WIKIPEDIA it has to be named like it really is.. just because we call it Holland for the ease of comfort doesn't mean the other should do it :P ADB15 (talk) 12:11, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of the team 

message: Arshavin images
[img]http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/feb2009/7/4/3CD22C45-0FEA-34E5-1A66681EA468CBE5.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01252/Andrei_Arshavin_1252484c.jpg[/img]
Agreeing to someone should change it......he will be arsenal player on thursday 27th jan  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arsenal1193 (talk • contribs) 18:56, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They're not free, consult WP:IUP#Adding images. Conscious (talk) 19:41, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: Can you delete/undo these Arsenal rumors listed on his article? This is not the place for it! Let's not turn wikipedia into a cheap online tabloid! Rumor hunting are what the likes of goal.com are for. Until he has signed for someone, I see no reason to start burning your tires..
it's quite annoying seeing this kind of thing. i supposed temporarily it's alright but ask yourself, who in their right mind goes to wikipedia to get up to date football info?--Fly05 (talk) 09:31, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have seen sources that seem to be reliable saying that Arsenal is trying to make this transfer happen. I am surprised why this information is not included in the article and would like to know why some editors remove it. BaldPark (talk) 03:36, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

text: I am not aware of any reliably documented official offer other than Arsenal's. Are you? BaldPark (talk) 09:18, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, just google past offers. 203.45.49.142 (talk) 09:24, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it is entirely appropriate to have this kind of information in the article, other guidelines being followed, of course. BaldPark (talk) 21:03, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As I've said in my edit summary, Zenit's negotiations with Arsenal obviously deserve a mention somewhere in the article. Regardless of whether the deal itself goes through or not, it will still have a very big effect on his career. Arshavin has already said that he has no intention of playing for Zenit again, so the least that can happen is that Arshavin will buy out his contract after this season, either way, it is difficult to underestimate the impact these negotiations may have on his career. Just don't go into too much detail, at least not until the transfer window is closed in seven days. There's just way too much inaccurate information right now. BanRay 11:26, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well-said! Thank you. 71.139.20.155 (talk) 22:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Such a deal will have an affect on his career only if it goes through. To suggest anything else is simply crystal ball gazing.--ClubOranjeTalk 10:22, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leaving in January? 

message: #23 is what he will be wearing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gary-spratt (talk • contribs) 04:12, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: While I understand a desire to "break the news" before official confirmation, over the length of the debacle, there has been no lack of conflicting news sources. Changing it before the deal is reported as done by completely reliable sources (Arsenal.com, mostly) would be irresponsible. As for the baby analogy, it seems a little off. This is unconfirmed information, not something we definitely know to be true. – moonty (talk) (contribs) 08:40, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arshavin moves to Arsenal! 

message: On the Russian chanell one it was announced today.
The Russian minister of sports already commented it..
And here are the news from the most offical Russian sports site:
Arshavin before it was offical announced he will play under the 23 number if he moved: 
And here is the offical confirmation from Zenit: 
It's offical. MaIl1989 (talk) 12:29, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sport Express say the move has been finalized some 20 minutes ago, we'll need an official confirmation from either Zenit or Arsenal though. BanRay 16:56, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Confirmed by Arsenal now. Mattythewhite (talk) 16:58, 3 February 2009 (UTC)

text: What's the need though? All that the image needs to do is show the reader what Arshvin looks like, and it does that. A free image of Arshavin in an Arsenal shirt after one day of being at the club is surely next to impossible anyway. Mattythewhite (talk) 15:42, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's offical he moved 

message: *Oppose. Wikipedia is a tretiary source. Based on Google search, it looks to me the majority of sources uses "Andrei" spelling:
*:http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Andrei+Arshavin%22 - 15 mln pages,
*:http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Andrey+Arshavin%22 - 76 thousand. -- BaldPark (talk) 18:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oppose 

message: people keep on changing number of goals to include the goal that was counted as an own goal by Blackburn.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rybkin (talk • contribs) 17:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  own goal 

message: 10 league appearances & 6 goals as of May 03, 2009.... Source: http://www.arsenal.com/first-team/players/andrey-arshavin (Arsenal FC's very own website) ---- Gagandeep (talk) 04:35, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  League appearances & Goals 

message: For all those people citing google search numbers to prove that Andrei spelling is more popular than Andrey, you are forgetting one thing: You have to remove Wikipedia itself from the search, otherwise you're using Wikipedia's spelling to justify the continuation of that spelling.
Google Search results:
*:http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Andrey+Arshavin%22+-wikipedia : 183,000
*:http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=%22Andrei+Arshavin%22+-wikipedia : 165,000
So Google Search actually favors the 'y' spelling.
:I highly doubt that the over 1,000,000 pages getting stripped are from wikipedia, seeing as http://www.google.com/search?q=%22Andrei+Arshavin%22+%22wikipedia%22 produces 3,680 articles chandler · 21:47, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: And those searches are not the same. The first one has ?q= and the second one has ?hl=en&q=. I am sure that it will get less hits when only pages in one language are searched. 85.217.21.113 (talk) 11:41, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

text: I'm still not really sure they can be discounted. Other sites do readily copy off wikipedia, and increasingly decisions made on wikipedia can influence the "real" world - but that does not mean that we shouldn't count those that do. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 23:41, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Is there a policy which says that? I'm only aware that we are supposed to use the commonest name, even if websites are copying this one, but I might be wrong. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 14:08, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO we should change the title to Andrey Arshavin. Media begin to use the Andrey spelling more often since the player himself preferred that way. His official profile on Arse.com also used Andrey. @pple complain 04:13, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Google search shows preference for "Andrey Spelling" 

message: Guys, what is the rationale for having the image with a border or without a border? Maybe explaining it here will help resolve the dispute. Chensiyuan (talk) 15:17, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no dispute as such, the guy's simply following me around, sad springs to mind, I'll be happy to go with whatever the community decision is as long as there is a discussion. BanRay 19:29, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems unconventional in WP to have images with a border, no? Chensiyuan (talk) 23:01, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not really sure about this. Whatever the majority of other articles use, this should too. Do most not have borders? I'll happily admit I haven't really made a study of it. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 23:39, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image: border or borderless 

message: 'He is the most expensive player in the North London club's transfer history.'
according to various sources, arsenal only paid 12 million upfront for him with various other fees being performance and apperance-based. the actual transfer value has not been disclosed by the club - if it was only 12 million though it would make him less costly than reyes and wiltord. does anyoe have a source from the club stating that this was a record signing? Jw2035 (talk) 07:40, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Arsenal Transfer

message: Arshavin's picture has been vandalised. Gnaaye
:fixed chandler ··· 19:55, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Is his name pronounced as ar-SHAH-vin or ar-SHAV-in in Russian? I'm quite sure it's not ar-SHAY-vin or AR-shuh-vin although I've heard some commentators use them. Spiderone 10:42, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russian pronunciation 

message: I have removed the "Personal Life" section of the article as it is a straight copy vio from the Daily Mail reference provided (here). Fenix down (talk) 15:22, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyvio 

message: * UEFA Champions League top assist: 2009/10http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/topassists?league=uefa.champions&year=2009&cc=4716
* UEFA Cup top assist: 2007/08http://soccernet.espn.go.com/stats/topassists?league=uefa.uefa&year=2007&cc=4716
* Russian Premier League top assist: 2007http://football.sport-express.ru/russia/premier/2007/statistics/assistances/
I'm sure this should be added to the "Individual" section.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.66.181.115 (talk) 06:03, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top assist in 3 different tournaments 

message: Some idiot in Malaysia put in copy that said he has joined AC Milan, I've undone this  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gooneradam (talk • contribs) 11:11, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  AC Milan 

message: Could there be more info on that? Thanks. 66.108.223.179 (talk) 16:51, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Position in the national team 

message: Wikipedia states that articles should have a neutral point of view. Parts of this article read more like a fan piece than a neutral article.  Examples include "Arshavin scored the unbelievable, wonder dream winning goal" (no citation); "undeniably one of his most important and greatest goals of all time" (no citation); "disappointingly ending 1–1" - disappointingly from an Arsenal viewpoint, presumably, but not neutral; "Arshavin was a fouled in the area by a defender, but referee Anthony Taylor said no penalty" (no citation); "Taylor's assistant referee flagged him offside when he was clearly "onside" " citation, for what it is worth, points to the Arsenal official website which does not say anything about the player being clearly onside; "disappointing 0–0 draw" again, an Arsenal viewpoint, not a neutral one; "he scored a magnificent goal" (no citation); "from 23 yards" no citation, and most reports place him in the 18-yard area when he shot.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.78.113.193 (talk) 20:18, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Edit them out then. Be bold! --Jimbo[online] 20:55, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutral point of view 

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message: The article says Arshavin has been playing for Russia U-21 since 2009, when he would have been 28 years of age? I suppose he could be an overage player, but this seems like a typo to me. 
Drawley (talk) 10:17, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Under-21 years 

message: This article has been way too messy for a long time. It has poor choice of words, poor grammar, poor spelling, poor punctuation, EVERYTHING!!!!! Please, can someone edit this page in a very mature and experienced manner???!!! I love Andrey Arshavin, so that's why we must need to have a clean and neat article for him. Look at the other articles, like Cristiano Ronaldo, Lionel Messi, Wayne Rooney, etc. Their all organized and neat. And also, whenever Arshavin scores, or if there's big news about him, write it down on his page. Please, make it something better.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by THEXFALLEN (talk • contribs) 22:18, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  MUST IMPROVE!!! 

message: I am impressed that someone did make some editing for this beloved article. But, it's still not good enough. There were many articles on the internet from Google surrounding the topic of Arshavin against Manchester United about his mistakes. Could someone find them and put them in this article??? Is that so hard???????????????????? I've been the only one making this article clean, then some fool comes here and deletes it. It's a lot of hard work when you think about. Also, Arshavin scored a Carling Cup against Bolton, MONTHS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Someone for God's sake edit that as well. And upload some cool pictures of him too.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by THEXFALLEN (talk • contribs) 00:15, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  A little better, but not good enough. 

message: Can someone make a career totals section for Arshavin for God's sake?????  — Preceding unsigned comment added by THEXFALLEN (talk • contribs) 19:47, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Career Totals Needed!!!!!

message: In the section referencing his move back to Zenit there is an unsourced comment about corner flags and his height, can an admin remove?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.30.103 (talk) 13:32, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Height 

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