Talk:Terri Schiavo case/Archive 46

message: Gordon, do you require re-education regarding your misunderstanding about "voting" and "consensus"? --Calton | Talk 12:23, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Voting is Evil"

message: I saw -and reverted -a recent edit that looked wrong, but I'll admit it was confusing even for me.
Here's the data I got on which one was which:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:5pNwyRwC7W0J:www.2dca.org/opinion/March%252016,%25202005/2D05-968.pdf+%22schiavo+I%22+%22schiavo+II%22+%22schiavo+III%22+%22schiavo+iv%22&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=6
See In re Guardianship of Schiavo , No. 90-2908-GD (Fla. Pinellas Cir. Ct.Feb. 11, 2000) (order authorizing discontinuation of artificial life support); In reGuardianship of Schiavo, 780 So. 2d 176 (Fla. 2d DCA 2001) (Schiavo I), reviewdenied, 789 So. 2d 348 (Fla. 2001); In re Guardianship of Schiavo, 792 So. 2d 551 (Fla.2d DCA 2001) (Schiavo II); In re Guardianship of Schiavo, 800 So. 2d 640 (Fla. 2d DCA2001) (Schiavo III), review denied, 816 So. 2d 127 (Fla. 2002); Schindler v. Schiavo exrel. Schiavo, 829 So. 2d 220 (Fla. 2d DCA 2002) (table citation denying motion); In reGuardianship of Schiavo, No. 90-2908-GD-003, 2002 WL 31876088 (Fla. Cir. Ct. Nov.22, 2002); In re Guardianship of Schiavo, No. 90-2908-GB-003, 2002 WL 31817960(Fla. Cir. Ct. Nov. 22, 2002); Schiavo v. Schiavo, No. 8:03-cv-1860-T-26TGW, 2003 WL22469905 (M.D. Fla. Sept. 23, 2003); In re Guardianship of Schiavo, 851 So. 2d 182(Fla. 2d DCA 2003) (Schiavo IV), review denied, 855 So. 2d 621 (Fla. 2003); Schindlerv. Schiavo, 865 So. 2d 500 (Fla. 2d DCA 2003) (table decision denying prohibition);Advocacy Ctr. for Persons with Disabilities, Inc. v. Schiavo, 17 Fla. L. Weekly Fed.D291 (M.D. Fla. Oct. 21, 2003); Schiavo v. Bush, No. 03-008212-CI-20, 2003 WL22762709 (Fla. Cir. Ct. Nov. 4, 2003); Bush v. Schiavo, 861 So. 2d 506 (Fla. 2d DCA2003); Schiavo v. Bush, No. 03-008212-CI-20, 2004 WL 628663 (Fla. Cir. Ct. 2004);Bush v. Schiavo, 866 So. 2d 136 (Fla. 2d DCA 2004); Schindler v. Schiavo, 866 So. 2d140 (Fla. 2d DCA 2004); Bush v. Schiavo, 871 So. 2d 1012 (Fla. 2d DCA 2004);Schiavo v. Bush, No. 03-008212-CI-20, 2004 WL 980028 (Fla. Cir. Ct. May 5, 2004);Bush v. Schiavo, 885 So. 2d 321 (Fla. 2004), cert. denied, 125 S. Ct. 1086 (2005);Schindler v. Schiavo, No. 2D04-3451, 2004 WL 2726107 (Fla. 2d DCA Nov. 24, 2004)(table decision); In re Guardianship of Schiavo, No. 90-2908-GD-003, 2005 WL 459634(Fla. Cir. Ct. Feb. 25, 2005).
Original source: http://www.2dca.org/opinion/March%2016,%202005/2D05-968.pdf
--GordonWatts 23:12, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distinguising between Schiavo 1, 2, 3, and 4 - regarding a recent edit 

message: The article currently says: Michael returned to Florida with her in January 1991 and admitted her to the Mediplex Rehabilitation Center (specializing in brain[citation needed] injuries) in Bradenton, Florida ...
The "[citation needed]" has been in place for a long time, with no citation forthcoming. In the meantime, the website for Mediplex has disappeared, and it is not listed in this listing of rehab facilities: .
I see that the Rehabillation Institue of Chicago's Brain Injury Medicine and Rehabilitation Program is not listed either, so I won't delete the phrase in parentheses after all. However I can't find any evidence to support the claim. Oh wait, yes Chicago  is listed under Rehabilitation Institute.  So I will delete the phrase in parentheses.
Here is a reference to Mediplex in the vita  of Gail Ward at Morton Plant Rehabilitation Hospital, so Mediplex did exist. Gail's career path was Mediplex in 1987, eventually COO, to Tandem Health Care in 1998 to Morton Plant in 2005. Morton is where Terri's tube was reinserted in 2003. MartinGugino 02:51, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mediplex 

message: Admitted to a hospital means she was an inpatient there. All inpatients get "24 hour care", but this doesn't mean more than there is someone in the facility that they are assigned to at the time. It does not mean that there is anyone in the room. 
Does that clarify the meaning of my change that you questioned? Twenty-four hour care tends to overstate, it seems to me, the number of hours of care she received. MartinGugino 05:50, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Admitted means inpatient 

message: It looks like the transfer to Sabal Palms is a transfer to a facility of less care then Mediplex. They  have 244 beds and 12 RNs, so that is 4 RNs a shift at most. There are 6 Physical Therapy equivalents. The comment that Terri received "regular" care, strictly speaking, only means periodic care, or regularly scheduled, or scheduled on a regular basis as opposed to an irregular basis. I change my car's oil on a regular basis. The staffing levels do not seem to support the implication that she receive therapy on a frequent basis. MartinGugino (talk • contribs) 06:30, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sabal Palms 

message: I don't see how this section contradicts itself. I just don't think it does.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by MartinGugino (talk • contribs) 07:18, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your recent edits look OK, I just thought I'd mention. Sometimes it can get very quiet around here.--GordonWatts 07:58, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  
 DNR and "This Section Contradicts Itself" - how?