Talk:United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs

message: My eyes are going all googly after editing too much.  If somebody wants to help me edit this page to include information found from the OCHA website (http://ochaonline.un.org/ocha2006/index.htm) that would be greatly appreciated.  If not I suppose I can do it myself at a later date. Stefanjcarney 19:58, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I agree with the reasons for blanking, i.e. "the incident is isolated and not symptomatic of a real controversy worthy of appearing in an article" it belongs perhaps in a newspaper report, not an encyclopedia article. --Joel Mc (talk) 02:47, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a controversy reported by RS, it reached diplomatic levels and raised serious issues of misconduct. I have no idea what you mean by it's not a "real controversy".Ankh.Morpork 10:52, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Removal of undue material is consistent with Wikipedia policy: WP:UNDUE states that the "discussion of isolated events, criticisms, or news reports about a subject may be verifiable and NPOV, but still be disproportionate to their overall significance to the article topic. This is a concern especially in relation to recent events that may be in the news." Dlv999 (talk) 11:10, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It states it should be in proportion to the subject, not that it should be entirely omitted.  So I ask you to specify the undue nature, such as the "depth of detail, quantity of text, prominence of placement" or "juxtaposition of statements", that is the concern and how this might be improved.Ankh.Morpork 11:29, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I am in agreement with the other editors in that any inclusion of this isolated incident would be undue and not consistent with an encyclopedic article on the topic. Dlv999 (talk) 11:38, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you think that any mention at all is considered WP:UNDUE?Ankh.Morpork 11:42, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: See my comment timestamped 11:38, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It is most certainly not UNDUE. It was widely reported in various reliable secondary sources and generated enormous controversy. One can argue that the reverted content would perhaps be inappropriate for the Lead of an article but the controversy that was generated is certainly worthy of mention in the body text and this particularly so since the incident was widely covered and reached the highest diplomatic echelons.--Jiujitsuguy (talk) 13:55, 25 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Correct.  Actually it is a complete crock.  Some OCHA employee in her spare time allegedly tweeted a picture that proved to be mistaken.  BIG ^%$^&( DEAL!  This a trivial incident that will soon be entirely forgotten.  In addition, not the slightest effort was made to balance the report. This is a blatant violation of WP:UNDUE and WP:NPOV which has also been pushed into Media coverage of the Arab–Israeli conflict, Israel, Palestine, and the United Nations and March 2012 Gaza–Israel clashes. Wikipedia is not supposed to be a mirror site for Honest Reporting! Zerotalk 04:14, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  AP newswire: "During the recent round of fighting between Israel and Gaza militants, an Israeli government official and a Palestinian activist tweeted heart-wrenching photos meant to show the suffering of innocents on their sides. It turned out that the photos — one of an Israeli woman and her two children ducking a Gaza rocket and the other of a Palestinian father carrying his dead daughter — were several years old.  ... While Gendelman tweeted in an official [Israeli] capacity, Badawi's page, "Long live Palestine," is her personal site."  Long live neutral editing. Zerotalk 04:34, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Blanking of Controversy section

message: Could editors, especially editors with only OCHA-related contributions, please stop adding promotional language to this article? Neutral, encyclopedic facts are welcome, but self-advertising mission statements from OCHA's point of view are not suitable for Wikipedia. If you are involved with OCHA or one of their employees, you should atleast declare your conflict of interest, out of courtesy and per Wikipedia policy. I'll try to separate the notable facts (f.e. the current leadership) from the PR-speak and re-insert them. GermanJoe (talk) 20:40, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promotional language, COI 

message: I'm in a conflict of interest, but I'd like to suggest that the Humanitarian Data Exchange  has become notable enough to be listed here and possibly also to have its own article:
* it is public and serves the whole humanitarian community (not just OCHA)
* it is the official data repository of record for the UN Mission for Ebola Emergency Response (UNMEER)
* media organisations, including the New York Times, are using it as a source 
If wiki editors who are not in a COI decide that adding HDX to this article and/or creating a separate Humanitarian Data Exchange article is justified, I will be happy to help by providing sourced, neutral (non-marketing) information and third-party references on request. David (talk) 13:50, 6 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello  Just a suggestion, but it would probably be best to start small with a 1 paragraph summary within the UNOCHA article first (more would probably be undue weight). It should briefly cover (imo): the HDX's formation, its role within the UNOCHA and a very brief mention of the most notable projects and usages so far. You could prepare a raw version in a sandbox or here, if that's more convenient. I, or any other interested editor, could have a look and suggest improvements - and insert the text, if suitable. Should more information become available over time, this text could be expanded and possibly moved into an article of its own. Thanks for being open about your COI, so everyone can work together in article improvements within our guidelines. GermanJoe (talk) 19:52, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed addition: Humanitarian Data Exchange (HDX) 

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