Talk:Dennis Báthory-Kitsz

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Wikipedia:Deletion_review/Log/2006_September_3
Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
I have re-created this page because I believe this man is notable (having searched for him after seeing him listed as the composer of something without knowing anything about him) and this is not a vanity page creation, which was a main criticism of the deleted page. Plus there are more sources now. I note that the deletion review was closed 'without prejudice to a sourced rewrite', which I claim the new article to be. Clavecin 12:42, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: Dennis Báthory-Kitsz is so annoying and full of himself when he claims he may possibly be related to Elizabeth Báthory and the aristocratic Báthory family.  Just because his name happens to be Báthory it doesn't mean or prove that he is their descendant.  He has many people fooled and the History Channel special he was on has done a lot of damage in this respect.
There are many Hungarians today with the Báthory name.  It's not a common Hungarian name, but it isn't uncommon.  How do we explain why there are so many people with this name?  Chances are Mr. Báthory-Kitsz (as well as others with the same surname) had an ancestor who was a serf on one of the many estates owned by the Báthory family and subsequently adopted the surname of his feudal landlord which was not uncommon at the time.  This is somewhat similar in practice to giving African slaves the surnames of their owners.
If Mr. Báthory-Kitsz claims he may be related to Elizabeth Báthory then his argument would be stronger if his family name was Nádasdy, which it isn't.  Elizabeth Báthory was married to Ferenc Nádasdy and they had five children who inherited their father's surname.  They had two daughters Anna and Kata who were later married to Miklós Zrínyi and György Homonnai Drugheth respectively.  They also had two sons András who died young at age five, and Pál.  This noble family has been around ever since and members are still living today.  This info can be found in the book A Nádasdyak by József Bessenyei which is a history of the family in Hungarian.
I'm sure Mr. Báthory-Kitsz is a fine fellow and I'm proud this talented man is Hungarian like myself, but I have to say he is quite over zealous in regards to his origins which may not be so illustrious after all.--Gyula (talk) 00:00, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
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message: Might be a good addition to add why he has so many names. It seems quite unusual.   Thank you  --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 21:49, 31 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  pseudonyms 

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