Talk:Religions by country

message: This page should include an entry for Germany. Denial 17:28, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: It seems that there is a big issue with what is classified to be 'non-religious'.  People who say that they are of a faith system (even if they are not formally members/attend services) should not be put in such a system.  I fail to see how not attending formal religious services makes a person 'non-religious'! Bennyj600 (talk) 00:20, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-Religious? 

message: The heading above was quoted from Wikipedia's verifiability policy.  This article violates that policy. -- Boracay Bill 01:32, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Afghanistan, Bhutan, Brunei, Cambodia, China (Including  Tibet), Czech Republic, India, North Korea, South Korea, Luxembourg, Nauru, Peru, Philippines, Poland, Singapore, Slovakia, United States, and Vietnam entries all said "Wikipedia, ..." in the References & Sources column.  It looks like the only Wikipedia source actually cited was for Afghanistan.  When I made this talk page remark initially, I didn't have the the time to look at details.  Now that I've done that, I have removed those Wikipedia citations. I still have not tried to verify that the cited sources do in fact support the associated assertions, and may not have time to do that. -- Boracay Bill 10:11, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Articles and posts on Wikipedia or other open wikis should never be used as third-party sources. 

message: I want to nominate this article as a Featured list on the basis of the WP:WIAFL. What's your idea?Angelo De La Paz 00:51, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Featured list

message: Focusing on just identification of supporting sources, I see the following in the article (excerpt):
 Religions by country as 2007
Country or Territory	Christian	Muslim	Buddhist	Hindu	Others	Atheist	Notes                                      	References & Sources
                    	0.1%     	99%   	0.3%    	0.2% 	0.4%* 	n/a    	*: Including Parsees, Baha'is,Sikhs, etc...	
                    	30%      	70%   	n/a     	n/a  	n/a   	n/a    	                                           	
I have a difficult time relating the "References & Sources" items to the assertions which these items are supposed to be supporting.  How about a more conventional alternative, something like the following (note—I have edited the assertions in the table, attempting to conform them to info from the cited supporting sources):
 Religions by country as 2007
Country or Territory	Christian	Muslim   	Buddhist	Hindu	Others  	Atheist	Notes
                    	0.02%    	97.89%99%	0.3%    	0.35%	1.72%*1%	0.01%  	*: Including  Parsees, Baha'is, Sikhs, Traditional ethnic, etc.
                    	30%      	70%      	n/a     	n/a  	n/a     	n/a    	
===References===
-- Boracay Bill 05:12, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Identification of supporting sources 

message: -- Boracay Bill 05:12, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: Some of the Buddhism figures here seem to be drawn from wildly inflated estimates on Buddhist propaganad websites. Peter jackson (talk) 12:01, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accuracy 

message: I changed Atheist to "Non-religious". Although "Non-religious" includes, or at least in most peoples opinion, atheists, "Atheism" doesn't include agnostics, deists and "people who believe something, but are not interested in organized religion". For example: To the Eurobarometre only 8% of Austrians say, they don't believe in any kind of god, life force or spirit, but this site states a number of atheists between 14% and 46% (!), which is more probably the number of all people considering themself non-religious. So that's quite a huge difference. (And sorry for my bad english, I'm not so good with that language although I have no problem reading something in English.) 62.47.184.208 (talk) 15:44, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Atheist

message: According to the latest census of US Department of States there is about 28.5 million in Saudi Arabia, including an estimated foreign population of more than 8 million. The foreign population reportedly includes 1.6 million Indians, 1.5 million Bangladeshis, 1.2 million Filipinos, 1 million Pakistanis, 1 million Egyptians, 600,000 Indonesians, 400,000 Sri Lankans, 350,000 Nepalese, 250,000 Palestinians, 150,000 Lebanese, 100,000 Eritreans, and 30,000 Americans (Source: ).That means:
* Christianity: 4.5% or over 1.3 million Christians (Predominant of about 90% of Filipinos, Americans, Europeans; parts of Eritreans, Lebanese and others).Read more in Christianity in Saudi Arabia
* Hinduism: 4.5% or over 1.3 million Hindus (at least 1 million among 1.6 million Indians and predominantly of Nepalese).Read more in Hinduism in Arab states
* Buddhism: 1.4% or over 400 thousand Buddhists (93% of Sinhalese people from Sri Lanka; remainders are from East Asian countries as China, Vietnam, Thailand, etc...). Read more in Buddhism in Middle East 
* Others as Sikhs, Baha'is, Jews, etc...all is common 0.5% or less than 30K people
Overall Muslim numbers is including native Saudi Muslims and foreign Muslims (from Pakistan, Bangladesh, Egypt, Indonesia, etc...) is only 89% as maximum and it's 100% with 22 million native Saudi Arabian citizens.It means the numbers of Muslims is from over 20 million (100% of Saudi Arabia's citizens only) to 25.5 million (including both foreign Muslims and citizens).
04:52, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes you have provided a source to those, but this '89%' is a claim which is based on original research, which conflicts with Wikipedia's guidelines. You cannot use the information of ethnic groups and believe each of these different ethnic groups have a different religion, it's nonsense. You might not know that there may be high numbers of Muslims in any of these, Ethnic group is not related to Religion. Unless you find a direct source which says '89% Muslim' in Saudi Arabia then that is fine, but at the moment these sources are useless, biased and unreliable, plus you violated Wikipedia's policies: Wikipedia:No original research. The only statistic from CIA shows is, '100%'. I believe you should add 100%, but add a '*' next to it, explaining only Citizen count. Mohsin (talk) 16:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I completely agree with you. This person is a religious fanatic and keeps changing religion-related information (mostly in majority Muslim countries) according to his ideological views, without respecting the opinion of other people, or the sensitivities of people belonging to other faiths. Ayça Leovinus (talk) 17:47, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry I have to completely disagree with you there, because I have not removed any content of other religions or in fact you should know, that I have moved many of the info to Religion in Turkey, and I have expanded the Kemalism ideologies, and added various informations of populations of Jews and Christians. Mohsin (talk) 20:57, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

text:  Again there is clear evidence of Original Research made by you I am very generous. You have no rights to decide what the real statistics of Religion is in Saudi Arabia, please cite a source where it clearly says 89%, if you can't, will what can I say, the data you have provided is biased and you should be old enough to know that by now. And I think there's no point of discussing this matter, seeing that you view every edit by others as vandalism, while it is a Good Faith edit, this article should be reviewed by an administrator. Mohsin (talk) 16:41, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  If you view many other internet links or sources, you will find nearly all say '100% Muslim',  the non-Muslims are regarded as non-Citizens, therefore the non-Muslim population is excluded from those statistics. Cannot find any other sources which contradict that stat. Mohsin (talk) 16:59, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  It does look better know and less biased. Estimated should be added though. Mohsin (talk) 09:21, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-Muslims in Saudi Arabia 

message: The most comprehensive statistics of Religions in Turkey is available from the CIA, which show 99.8% Muslim, and 0.2% Christian and Jewish (120,000 Christians and 26,000 Jews). The statistic 99% is just a summary and rounded up by the US Department of State sources, and the Buddhist percentage source, is unreliable because 0.10% will have a figure of over 70,000 Buddhists in Turkey (that would make them larger than the Jews - second largest and no record of Buddhists), and the source does not cite percentages of the Jewish community which is one of the main minority religions. Mohsin (talk) 11:00, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkey 

message: The non-religious statistic for France is impossibly low (1 digit), also it contradicts the religion in France Page and the CIA World Factbook. 24.65.95.239 (talk) 22:30, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: France

message: A discussion has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Lists of countries which could affect the inclusion criteria and title of this and other lists of countries.  Editors are invited to participate. Pfainuk talk 12:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New Discussion

message: The majority of Albanians today are non-religious (Usa Government).
The datas for the non-religious population are there.
But there are no data to affirm that 70% is Muslim !!! Are you kidding? The Albanians are 100% religious? This is ridiculous!!
Non religious are 60-75% and don't modify it please.
Se the voice Religion in Albania  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dessy92 (talk • contribs) 19:16, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion in Albania 

message: I removed this, as what it did was to discuss autonomous and secessionist areas without giving any relevance of this detail to the issue of religious belief. Fences&Windows 21:26, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Footnote section

message: I thought it would be a good idea to split this article into templates, like it's done at LGBT rights by country, due to this article being so long by now. What's anyone else say? Munci (talk) 18:58, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split into templates 

message: Because of Zablon Simitriv,I changed the number of Jewish people in Afghanistan to 1 instead of 0. Since it is such a small number I left it at 0%.Is this okay?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leoesb1032 (talk • contribs) 01:17, 3 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jews in Aghanistan 

message: The Pew column of Religious information by country completely duplicates this article.  The International Religious Freedom Report column needs to be turned into statistics for brevity, then that and the CIA column would be suitable for merging here.  We can drop the Region and Subregion columns from this page since we have rollup, which will help make some horizontal room.  Some adjustment of columns may be needed to fit everything together, and some less important details will need to be chopped.  People can always visit the original sources or detailed Wikipedia articles for more information.  But I do like showing where sources disagree, to give readers a sense for the reliability of the numbers. -- Beland (talk) 23:18, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Closing this merge proposal due to lack of support over almost 3 years. The length of both pages would also make a merge unwieldy. Klbrain (talk) 10:47, 23 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: This map is somewhat more informative, because it is not constrained by national boundaries.  So you see e.g. the differences between Catholic and Protestant areas in the U.S. or Germany, and native religions in Australia. If we could find or make a free version of that, it would be very interesting to have in this article. -- Beland (talk) 23:20, 11 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  World map 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Should there be a year in the title of chapter 1? Recently the year was updated from 2010 to 2017, without updating the numbers. I have the impression that the numbers are updated when more recent numbers are available. Should there be a year of measurement in the table? Would it be useful to preserve historical data to see trends? Jan Vlug (talk) 19:31, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year 

message: Both Belgium and the Netherlands numbers add up to substantially more than 100% (more likely 110% to 120% or so). This might be an isolated event but sheds serious doubt on the quality of the data on the whole page. So basically every single number needs to be doublechecked. Arnoutf (talk) 17:21, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The numbers for Belgium are fixed following source (and numbers for Jersey removed since they're not in source). Wakari07 (talk) 12:23, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

text: Using the same source, I updated the number for Czechia.  Wakari07 (talk) 12:29, 1 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  serious problems with numbers netherlands and belgium: total >100% 

message: The numbers for Bosnia and Herzegovina's Christian and Muslim population appear to have been swapped. Were they to be swapped, those numbers would match Religion in Bosnia and Herzegovina and indeed any other statistic I could find on the matter much more closely. ~CJ Melon (talk) 22:26, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bosnia 

message: The description of the article states that it is an overview of COUNTRIES by religion but if you scroll down the table titles actually uses countries AND TERRITORIES and some of the entities in the tables are territories, so either the territories should be removed or the description of the Wikipedia article as well as the title be changed to religion by country and territory instead. 99.6.253.145 (talk) 07:44, 13 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion of Territories 

message: Sorting by column is a great Wikipedia feature!  Want to know which countries have the highest Muslim percent?  Just click on that column; the #7 country will appear on line #7 and so on.  Great feature!!
Or not.  On this badly misdesigned page, I can find out which country is #7 in the Caribbean.  Or in Southeast Asia.  Or in South-Central Africa!!
Please drink 2 cups of coffee and completely redesign this page.  Thanks in advance. Jamesdowallen (talk) 15:19, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many subdivisions