Talk:Sami al-Hajj

message: An unnamed contributor place a skeptical comment about Qu'ran flushing, in the middle of a summary of Al Hajj's lawyer's account of his experiences.  That unsubstantiated assertion was, in my opinion, inappropriately placed.  I removed it.  No reasonable person would question that a place could be found for quoting a credible source that expressed skepticism about the Qu'ran flushing.  The middle of the summary of Smith's account is not the right place.  And the original unnamed contributor didn't provide a source.
Another contributor felt they should restore the oriignal skeptical comment, in its original inappropriate place.  They added three links, which they say substantiate skepticism as to whether it was possible to flush a qu'ran.  
I still believe the location is inappropriate.  And those three sources are not credible sources that substantiate the original assertion.
* The more credible source is Fox News.  But the Fox story doesn't substantiate the assertion.  It merely says that Newsweek stepped back from saying that their anonymous official source had confirmed that a classified official inquiry had confirmed the story.
* The other two links   look like non-notable blog sites.  And I don't see them substantiating the original assertion that flushing a qu'ran down a toilet is impossible.
By all means add skeptical comments to the article, but in a more appropriate place.  And those skeptical comments shouldn't attribute the skepticism to "some critics".  Further links that are said to substantiate the assertion should actually substantiate it.  --  Geo Swan 19:29, 26 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Can I suggest that we get some news source links other than Al Jazeera?  In the context of the article it seems... inappropriate. --DDG 20:46, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scoffing at Qu'ran flushing appropriately placed?  Sources don't substantiate assertion. 

message: Sorry about that. Not sure how it happened but the code is still there. Can anyone fix it?
Fixed.  
Did you mean to use a link to one of Al-Jazeera's Arabic pages as a reference?  
When a reference doesn't include the title and date it makes it impossible to look for a mirror, if the main link goes dead.  So, I tried the link to find the title and date.  But, I don't speak Arabic.
Cheers!  --  Geo Swan 06:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  My recent edit made the references and external links disappear 

message: It's so obvious that this was part of the propaganda campaign unleashed against the Western World.
Has anyone ever tried to FLUSH A BOOK DOWN THE TOILET?  It would be physically impossible, as books are larger than the pipes in a toilet.
This allegation in the article should be listed as such: an unfounded allegation. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.131.184.152 (talk) 05:32, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: By the way, is it my imagination or is there no place to put toilet paper in that toilet...?  But the hole does look like it would accommodate the book, at least if you bent each of the covers in half. Wnt (talk) 00:24, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flushing a Koran down the toilet is Physically Impossible! 

message: I clipped a comment.  It was in a section that quoted from the 2005 Summary of Evidence (ARB) memos.  It was made to look like the factors from that memo.  Innocently, no doubt, but also innappropriately.
Cheers!  Geo Swan (talk) 00:33, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  rm -- see talk 

message: Wikidates are great, in general.  But I believe correcting quoted material to use them is a mistake.
Quoted material should be left "as-is".  Readers may want to search the web on it.  If so using wikidates can cause those searches to fail.  
That is bad. 
So I removed the wikidating.
Cheers!  Geo Swan (talk) 01:04, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  removing wikidates from quoted material 

message: The fact that transliteration of Arabic symbols to the Latin alphabet is imprecise and often produces many possible results suggests to me that Section 1 (Identity) would be at best reduced to 2 possible spellings of Hajj's name (as at Taj El-Din Hilaly). There is no source given for any confusion over Hajj's identity only sources for different latinizations of his name. And this doesn't deserve a section to itself. SmithBlue (talk) 05:51, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Identity section  

message: According to Large denominations of United States currency there are believed to be only about 300 $10,000 bills in circulation.  As collectibles I would think their condition would be very important.  Is there evidence that there were really 22 of them tucked under his wife's belly?  Surely this is some mis-translation.  $2200 in a money belt seems more believable. Wnt (talk) 00:17, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  $10,000 bills? 

message: Per Wikipedia citation guidlines, "When quoting a source in a different language, please provide both the original-language quotation and an English translation, in the text, in a footnote, or on the talk page as appropriate." There is no such English translation for the citation : ^ a b "لجنة حماية الصحفيين قلقة إزاء تدهور صحة الحاج". Al Jazeera. March 6, 2007. http://www.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/49B71E20-FDC0-4B51-A1D9-1CFB0ACA2D10.htm. Retrieved 2007-03-07.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by BJ Crowning (talk • contribs) 19:29, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  English Language Citation 

message: Reworked much of the former weirdness of this article, with some help from User:IQinn. There's room for expansion with regards to Al Hajj's treatment at Gitmo.--109.59.150.9 (talk) 04:19, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phew 

message: His file has been released in today's batch. It claims he's a member of al-Qaida and Taliban, among other things. Quite an interesting read. --91.32.72.83 (talk) 11:31, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikileaks release today 

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