Talk:The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess/Archive 3

message: The Good article nomination for  has failed
:Major lack of stability, owing perhaps to the fact that this game hasn't been released yet.
 cholmes75 (chit chat) 15:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That and more information on the game will probably get added to the article once gamers finish the game's objectives. Hopefully, after a few weeks once the hype dies down a little, we can start fixing the article back to "Good article" quality. (tyger 17:43, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Good articles|Good Article]] [[Wikipedia:Good articles/Nominations|nomination]] has failed 

message: May i add that in this new trailer that it is shown that link can fly? --70.130.41.157 08:34, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We see 2 seconds of Link hanging under a flying creature. That's not flying and might just as well be a mini-game. Besides, Aonuma said at E3 2005 there will be no flying transportation (mini-games excluded of course). JackSparrow Ninja 21:35, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you talking about? Did you see the same trailer? Link becomes a bird and flies around. True, it may be a mini-game, but Link definately flies at some point in the game. -Platypus Man | Talk 17:06, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

text: OK. I looked at it again and admit defeat. However, the player still is clearly controlling the bird, even if it's not Link himself. Maybe it's Midna? -Platypus Man | Talk 23:40, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It could be but claiming that would be pure speculation. That would need to be verified before adding. --65.95.19.142 20:43, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

text: "The flying dragon-like creature we have seen in one of the recent trailers, that was carrying Wolf Link, is an enemy that you control. You first encounter such a sequence while following the story, but at a later point you will see these sort of sequences again in mini-game and sidequest form. To put rumours to rest, this -and Cucco's- is the only sort of flying in the game." JackSparrow Ninja 02:07, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Having played the game, I can confirm that McMeaty is correct about the flying creature in all respects.--Jorm 08:46, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flying in TP 

message: I was wondering why the Zelda image was changed from the concept image to the screenshot? The screenshot is small and blurry (especially when compared to Darknut image), whereas the concept image is large and clear, and keeps in line with Link's concept art.  Thoughts? Mintchocolatebear 15:42, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it is because the artwork is over a year old, and the screenshot is reflective of the most recent version of Princess Zelda. I didn't change it, but I agree with the change - though you can get a better quality version from the trailer off GameVideos and taking a screen capture. --TSA 01:13, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the difference may be that the pic that is currently up (which i assume you are talking about) is of zelda in the Twilight Realm, in her funeral robes.  in one video she is seen in her normal pinkish-white dress.Aquilix 03:29, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zelda image 

message: Really huge...really unnecessarily huge.  Is there any reason for ALL those images? 199.126.137.209 05:06, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Those screenshots are the latest batch, that basically show the game as it will be released come Nov. 19th.  Plus, they're beautiful, and informative... and this article has gone way too long without a decent gallery.  I say leave them up. Wapatista 10:13, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The gallery is huge

message: The weapons section won't show up completely; half of it is missing. But it is there in the editing window. Bly1993 19:25, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a cache issue. Click here to purge the cache, and check again. -- ReyBrujo 20:14, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed that problem myself and realized for that it started when I tried to add in Nintendo Power References to the article. I have removed them for now and at least on my computer everything it back to normal so I hope it is working fine for you now. I don't know why this caused the information removal so I will not try to add them back in myself because it will likely happen again. This does lead to the probelm of several unreferenced peices of info in the entry though so can someone with more experience try to add them back in a proper manner. --70.48.174.252 02:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: somethings wrong

message: According to this interview with George Harrsion the Wii version of the game will have downloadable content such as extra levels. (I'm assuming that means mini-dungeons of some kind.)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Kad-05 (talk • contribs) 
:It's completely taken out of context. There is no downloadable content in the Wii version.  JackSparrow Ninja 03:31, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Downloadable content in Wii version 

message: Can anyone tell me why the Twilight Realm's color style is mentioned under "weapons and items?" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Purplepurplepurple (talk • contribs) .
:There was something wrong with the text and some things were removed and somehow belended with other sections. I believe it was somehow caused  by some refrecnces that I added earler. They have been removed for the time being and it should be back to normal now. --70.48.174.252 03:08, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Twilight realm 

message: Is that most of it has been written from a slow accretion of facts gleamed from interviews and magazines over a very long time.  As such, throughout the article, many facts are corroborated with a statement like "in a recent interview" or "in the latest trailer", and disregarding the puerile nature of the overall effect, many of the implied interviews and trailers et al are actually no longer recent, and completely out of date!  There is also a secondary problem, where entire sections end up reading as short snippets of facts, in the order that they were made public...  Anyway, this article will probably metamorphose once TP finally gets released, but until then, I think someone should clean it up a little.  Someone who isn't avoiding spoilers, like me, and who can no longer read many sections, let alone edit them. Wapatista 10:20, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Most popular game articles on Wikipedia get an extensive rewrite after the game is actually released. Almost all of the information in the article is based on secondary and tertiary sources, so we can't be sure of anything until the game is out there and Wikipedia editors are playing the game. So, if the page is rewritten using primary sources, it will turn out much better than it is now. The development section of the article will probably be compressed and listed near the bottom of the article, as well. That's just how Wikipedia's editors work. 24.131.157.78 09:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  One major problem with this article 

message: OK, check out this bit from the article:
"Link will have three types of bombs available."
Where's the proof? There's a few more examples of this in the Weapons and Items sections, but I won't go into detail. Basically, those bits need some work. Maybe with bullet points. I love you bullet points. Ahem...I didn't state that out loud, did I?--Ninty 19:35, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They're from the latest Nintendo Power, but the reference messed up the page. JackSparrow Ninja 19:38, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proof Needed

message: something about sony and microcap suck i dont think tahts supposed to be there. ima take it off.
:It's a vandal.  The game is not even out yet.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 23:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  umm it says something 

message: *Hopefully someone has the article archived.--Biolizard28 02:47, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: That vandal son of a bitch

message: Someone deleted the article please get it back! Waluigi300 23:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion 

message: The caption under the boss picture says Fyrus while the article says Pyrus... Are the two names freely exchangable or is it a simple mistake? 64.13.95.106 18:05, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I overlooked a Pyrus name while changing it then :$ It is Fyrus, as the screenshot in the reference shows. I'll change it now. JackSparrow Ninja 18:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was originally "Pyrus" in the NYC build, but has since changed to "Fyrus" in the final build.  To ensure I wasn't going crazy, my Golin/Harris rep confirmed this. Still need to see if it is this way in all versions. --TSA 19:49, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pyrus/Fyrus? 

message: I added a bit about how all/most of the soundtrack will be orchestrated. I cited ign, so it should be alright. Feel free to reword it or whatever. Just 5 more days! -IeditWikipedia 04:29, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I reworded it to be more concise. Good find, nice job. The IGN article is fairly old (June 2005), but, I think, still trustworthy, unless anyone has heard differently ...? --Herald Alberich 06:17, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

text: So it says it doesn't feature all orchestrated music, which should imply only a part of it. I guess that means some of the soundtrack, as opposed to most, will be orchestrated. Just wondering though, is that site trustworthy enough to cite? - IeditWikipedia 12:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering the fact that in the last year alone, he's been responsible for 4 mayor rumours, the answer to that is quite simply no. JackSparrow Ninja 19:05, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orchestrated Soundtrack 

message: Now Im mad that I know about the zelda and twilight king thing.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Superway25 (talk • contribs) 
:I can't blame you since the game isn't out yet. Once the game does come out, I think the warning should be removed. I feel that if you want to know about the game/move (which includes plot) then you shouldn't be look at an encyclopedia entry for it. TJ Spyke 21:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Surely we should keep the spoiler tags even once the game is released? I'm pretty sure they remain on other pages when a game or movie is released. --Zooba 23:42, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And I disagree with spoiler warnings on stuff that is already released. If people don't want to know about a game then they shouldn't be looking it up on a encyclopedia. TJ Spyke 23:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps... I suppose I wouldn't be too adverse keeping things that have been officially released as non-spoilers. ie. content revealed in trailers, interviews etc. Agree/disagree? --Zooba 23:48, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

text: TJ, it doesn't matter whether you disagree or agree with spoiler tags.  They are to be left up after this game is released.  Check almost any entry on a game/movie/show that has been released and you'll find them.  It's not that far-fetched that a person would be looking at an entry for something else other than story, and it would be a shame if they were to accidentally ruin it for themselves unintentionally.  So leave them alone, please. 199.126.137.209 04:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  There's no spoiler warning in front of the story 

message: The following two sentences from the plot section are very confusing:
"After Link enters the Twilight Realm, which, commanded by the Twilight King, reduces people to spirit form. Link, however, is transformed into a wolf instead upon entering, captured and imprisoned in a castle."
I don't know enough about the game to make a full determination as to how it should be worded, but I changed it to:
"After Link enters the Twilight Realm, which normally reduces people to spirit form, he is transformed into a wolf instead. Then he is captured and imprisoned in a castle."
If you disagree, let me know on my talk page.
Also, is it major or mayor in the plot section? And if someone would be so gracious as to archive this page. I would do it myself, but I'm not familiar enough with this talk page.--Farquaadhnchmn(Dungeon) 01:14, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your edit certainly makes it clearer, and is accurate from what I know. I'm fairly certain "major" is a typo; I'll change that, and someone can change it back if, for some reason, "major" is a rank in Kakariko and Ordon. --Herald Alberich 02:39, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar, Spelling, and an Archive request 

message: The Nunchuck, Classic Controllers and RGB cables now on sale discussion topics amongst some others seem to have been lost in the archiving? Can someone with more wiki experince thatn me (essentially anyone) try and find what's happened to them? BigHairRef | Talk 23:25, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you sure that you are on the correct board? This is the board for the game Twilight Princess so I doubt that those topics would have ever been here in the first place. --70.48.172.195 01:05, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah crap had the Wii and TP tabs next to each other. Apologies, next time I'll look at which article I'm on. BigHairRef | Talk 01:10, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't worry about it. Everyone makes mistakes. I doubt anyone would be upest over this. --70.48.172.195 01:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Articles 

message: There is an interesting article at wii.ign.com/articles/746/746455p1.html with some talk about the game, which could be used as reference later. -- ReyBrujo 02:36, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Another interview at www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=3155348 which could be included in the article. -- ReyBrujo 03:20, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interview 

message: The section sounds horribe and needs to be rewritten. Now. I'd do it myself, but I don't know what the hell you guys are trying to get at. // Sasuke-kun27 04:51, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Some of those reviews should be removed too, since this is such a big game i'm sure it will get tons of reviews and we can't list all of them. TJ Spyke 04:58, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. There's no telling how many reviews it's gotten so far or how many it will get in the near future. But about what I was referring to earlier, there used to be a review section in the article but I can't seem to find it in the history. I don't know what happened to it. It might have been on a different LoZ page, but I doubt it. // Sasuke-kun27 17:32, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears one person is just deleting it all. I've put it back for now. --Zooba 17:57, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Review section 

message: Someone needs to put in the  template in at least 2 places in this article. I would, except that I don't want anything spoiled.... 71.252.107.172 01:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Assuming we're talking about the same places I think I fixed this now. BigHairRef | Talk 18:11, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spoilers 

message: I was reading the TP page, someone erased the storyline, and in it's place put "srry". Please fix this. sean7gordon@epix.net —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.33.241.33 (talk • contribs) .
:What are you talking about? It was fixed a while ago. // Sasuke-kun27 03:10, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who got rid of the TP storyline? 

message: I noticed under new weapons it said Link will have a "Ball and Chain" to attack enemies and smash down walls. Isn't that basically a flail? Do we have a picture of it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.119.64.233 (talk • contribs) .
:A flail can be a number of differnt things only one of which is the Ball and Chain. I think that unless someone can find a source or a screenshot of what it's actually called it might be wisest to leave it as ball and chain. BigHairRef | Talk 18:15, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ball and Chain = Flail? 

message: This article needs major cleanup, new info is just tacked on rather than edited in properly, ie, is sates it is not yet known if there will be two versions in the rest of the world (outside the US), this statment needs to be removed, it is obviously out of date as it is now known that their will. The development section needs to be cleaned up so that it purly contains relevent info to development, and the twilight princess on Wii section needsw to only state relevent and CORRECT info, not state as fact sompthing that is now known to be wrong and then contradict it's self a few lines down —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.50.244.87 (talk • contribs) .
:Everyone qualified to fix this article is currently too busy playing the game. Give it a few days, at least. --Herald Alberich 18:23, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've played up to the second temple (Goron Mines), so I'll be able to fix a few things today. JONJONAUG 12:29, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removeing out of date info 

message: Rather than leading to an editing war, can I look for some consensus as to what the comments box in the reviews section is for. Personally I think if the review in the same row has a summing up comment in the review then I would think that's a comment from the website. Something like "Editor's Choice" is not comments, it's additional info. Can I also ask other than Editor's choice what will go in to the comment's/additional info box as most websites appear to have nothing? I'd suggest that if it's only going to br used for things like editor's choice then we simply do away with the last box completely as it has NRD otherwise. I'll put the comment back in for now but can I suggest that if it's going to be removed someone other than the person who removed it originally does it? BigHairRef | Talk 01:04, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My personal opinion is that that spot should be for things like Editor's Choice and Game of the Month awards. TJ Spyke 01:11, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mainly because I'm going to bed now I'd like to make two suggestions here. Could I suggest that if there is no GOTM or Editor's Choice or similar awards then a comment (if there is one suitably snappy ;)) is included as per the title of the column. And if I turn out to be in the minority that the header is changed to additional info because IMNSHO, Ed's choice and GOTM Awards are not comments they are other information and as a small note IMHO a summing up comment from the reveiw tells you a lot more about it than wheter it won an 'award'. There's even an awards section for that. BigHairRef | Talk 02:45, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the comment box needs to be there, if simply to be in conjunction with other Zelda pages such as Ocarina of Time or Wind Waker. It looks far too convoluted without. --Zooba 20:36, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

text: The Comment box is a comment on the review, not on the game. If no one replies to this within the next week, I'll put the comment box back in. --Zooba 13:46, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I remember merging the "Comment" column with the scores column as a way to shrink the table's width, so that it doesn't squish the "Reception" section quite as much (and besides, without the break below it, it causes the References section to totally squish, which is positively unacceptable).  If the page appears squished at 1024x768, I hate to think what it looks like at 800x600.  Besides, since it's only a few reviews that actually have comments in addition to the link and score, there really isn't much need for a separate column to begin with.  Why have a column that is mostly just empty space? --Stratadrake 17:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine. I'm just going to change some of the formatting, though. --Zooba 17:51, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments Box In reviews 

message: I originally put a list of the dungeons and bosses for each.  They were removed and asked to be talked about here.  I see now the enemies and bosses part is incorrect and has missing info.  I am not touching it until this is resolved. --TSA 06:34, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Twilight Princess Dungeons and Bosses 

message: According to this article, theWiire gave Twilight Princess an A. What it says, however, is "A (Taken as 97 out of 100 for mean)"
But theWiire does give a number rating, and in this case was given a 92/100 rating (which leads to an "A" according to their Rating guide). However, I am uncertain what is meant by "for mean"... is this how a meta-ratings site takes the value? If this isn't explained soon, I will replace "Taken as 97 out of 100 for mean" with "92 out of 100". — Aielyn 10:28, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rating given by theWiire 

message: unfortunatly upon reading the bottom of this page i found something quite offensive; being a newly signed up member; i did not know whether or not i was entitled to change it:
i would like to request the few sentences are deleted and hope that people are no so immature in future:
thank you for your support—Preceding unsigned comment added by Twilight Aruseus (talk • contribs) 
:It's already gone; I caught that within five minutes of its being posted. I'm sorry you had the misfortune to see it in the interim. You certainly did have the right to change it yourself, as vandalism is to be removed with all haste. I hope you stay and help us to improve and defend Wikipedia from people like that. --Herald Alberich 20:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  abuse within this article... 

message: The story section is quite good, it is obvious that someone has played through the game and edited the story section of the page. Unfortunately, the rest of the article doesn't appear to be so sure of the plot, theres a lot of 'this is unconfirmed' and I don't know enough about it to change what needs to be changed, but I have seen enough videos to know that things do need to be updated. So could someone get onto that? 
Maybe it's just personal nitpicking, but I believe that all of the Zelda pages should have some coherency to how they're set up. Some of them have the story before the items, before the game play before, whatever... and it's not very coherent. Maybe this is up to wikipedia's standards, but it shouldn't be. This is a series, so the pages should reflect that. Thanks! — Reflectionist 4:26, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Something needs to be done

message: This article really still has a lot of out-of-place, out-of-date future tense stuff and "demo this, trailer that" scattered about. Is anyone with more experience than me ready to write it from a current point of view, seeing as it's been out for a few days now? Nintenboy01 21:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time for an Overhaul! 

message: I already made it so Zant redirects here until a full article on him is written. --Black Omnimon 22:04, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added Twilight King. JackSparrow Ninja 00:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Zant

message: Is wikipedia a place for game synopisi/previews? Can we get some encyclopedic "meat" in the article, and/or get rid of all the fanboy candy?
::Of course. But an article can contain information on the game's development and controls, etc., as well as plot synsopi (synopseses?) and information of in-game weapons etc. --Zooba 20:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Somebody opened a "No Wiki" tag and didn't close it, I fixed it. TJ Spyke 20:25, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  THIS ARTICLE CONTAINS 99.999% SPOILERS 

message: Well, that video 'Imprisoning War' showed three Light Spirits being ordered down.  But there are 4 aren't there?  I haven't played the game, but the TP Character page also said 4.  So is it 3 or 4 Light Spirits?  (61.91.191.2 01:57, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's four. -- User:Guess Who, not signed in
Oh, ok. So why did the cut-scene say 3 then?  Thanks again.  (61.91.191.2 03:41, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

text: The cutscene isn't a typo.  The scene says that the goddesses ordered those three to seal up the great evil.  Makes sense, seeing as there's only three pieces, three dungeons, and thus only three Light Spirits present.  I guess the fourth one was just chilling out.Sidescroller 08:20, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How many Light Spirits again? 

message: I have noticed that some parts are much more heavily emphasised then others.  I mean, little is mentioned about acquiring rhe Fused Shadows (like the temples and such), and same with the gathering of the Mirror of Twilight.  It just says 'after many trials' or 'after gathering the Mirror pieces'...I think someone should expand on those areas more.  I can't because I don't have the game, but I think others should.  Thanks in advance.  (61.91.191.10 14:17, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hmm, the Plot section seems to be lacking in some areas... 

message: When the GameCube version comes out, of course. Just so that readers can compare the reviews, and see which sites saw which version as superrior.
The Captain Returns 23:38, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seperation of the Wii/GameCube Reviews 

message: I bought the strategy guide with the game specifically to assist in re-writing this article now that the game has been released. If anyone would like to guide me to an area where the guide may be a useful source of information, I will be happy to relay it with a full citation. It is the official Nintendo Power guide. Mellesime 05:00, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently, Wikipedia is not a place for video game guides . Sorry. --Zooba 21:58, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Take a look at the project's guidelines - the best place for such content would be one of the gaming-specific wikis mentioned there. --Oscarthecat 22:06, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

text: On the other hand, while gameplay information and tips don't belong here, the guide probably can serve as a useful way to cite story elements and other things that might seem suspect otherwise. --Herald Alberich 23:03, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For example, I've been busting my butt trying to update Enemies in The Legend of Zelda series. I've added TP appearences for enemies whose names I know (Stalfos, Darknut, etc), but that still leaves a lot of new enemies, like the fish things in the Goron Mines or the mini bosses of most dungeons, to name a few. What's most important is the addition of their names; if you don't know what else to write/not to write, I can add the rest. SixteenBitJorge 03:41, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strategy Guide Information 

message: TSA is cited a couple times in this article. Given the recent flak he's been under concerning his credibility, wouldn't it be best to find an alternate source? Surely some of those statements have been made by more reliable people? -- Mellesime 05:03, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What the heck are you talking about?  First, the two citations with my name are for SCANS of MAGAZINES, not even my own words...so how the heck is that questionable?  Second, you mean flak as in people on GameFAQs yelling at me saying I lied about solving the bugs?  I debnunked one, and am uploading another video to debunk the other, showing everyone I wasn't lying and that people need to get off my back.  The other issue is me getting TP early, and it was a random GameFAQ's member trolling.  I have several sources who verified I had TP early, not to mention I had videos posted of it BEFORE the release...along with the ending...so...not sure if you're a GameFAQ's member or Land of the Legend member...or just a hater...but back off.  Thanks. --TSA 01:59, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Hearsay is a poor form of evidence.--TSA 21:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TSA? 

message: Unless I've developed partial blindness, I can't see any mention of the control system for this game. What the nunchuk and the remote do, exactly. Any information? Uber HW 19:56, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Control System

message: The article doesn't say anything about the price of the game.  I looked this up to find out, and didn't find it.  Someone put the price in there please.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.129.247.128 (talk • contribs) 
:The price is usually only mentione if it's an odd price (like the Guitar Hero games being $80). Zelda is the standard $49.99 USD. TJ Spyke 00:28, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's the price? 

message: Now that we've decided for their inclusion, I believe a major clean-up is needed. First off, surely some of the information here needs to be summarized, as the main article is the characters page? Also, would some information on the dungeons (looks etc.) be worthy here (the game guide may be particularly useful)? Just my two cents. --Zooba 18:39, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bosses Clean-Up 

message: Whose bright idea was it to organize the temples by dungeon boss name and allowing the names to show up in the TOC?  Considering who the last boss is, I'm calling spoilers, and taking out all the names from the section headings.  I'm going to also suggest that we move that section over to a separate article like in Ocarina's article.  This is getting unwieldy--Weebot 18:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More spoilers 

message: SPOILERS
I have added that the last boss is divided in three parts, and I would be grateful if someone could add details about them.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Lifeisagame247 (talk • contribs) 
I'm confused. Isn't there a separate article for Zelda Bosses? -- Mellesime 21:08, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see why. The fact is that the game is now out, in one form of another, and that's all that matters. The Spoiler tags are there, also. --Zooba 23:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

text: But how is this important to the article?  Wikipedia is not a videogame guide. --Stratadrake 23:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But why can't we detail the bosses as much as the characters, in terms of appearance etc.? If people keep on editing in strategies to defeat the bosses, perhaps you could delete the strategies instead of, as some have done, just deleting the whole section? --Zooba 23:44, 1 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I see your point ("walkthroughs" or "strategies" are obviously not allowed), but at the same time, mere lists of enemies, bosses, items, etc. fall into the category of "indiscriminate" information, and in the context of a video game this is also stuff more at home in a strategy guide than an encyclopedia.  Zero encyclopedic significance = zero mention.  --Stratadrake 23:50, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Which is why I have called for people to expand the section. But you can't expect that to happen if it isn't there in the first place because it keeps on being deleted. Personally, the way I see it, there should just be a link to the "List of Characters in TP" page and only detail on the dungeons on the main page, as right now it's just a big mess (The "List of..." page especially needs attention). --Zooba 01:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest we scrap the boss section on this page. It's reduntant of the boss section of Characters in The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess which, taking a precedent from previous Zelda articles, is the proper place for such information concerning boss appearences and basic strategy, by which I mean something to the manner of "Morpheel is defeated by using the Clawshot to extract its eye, similarlly to Ocarina of Time's Morpha" as opposed to the detailed walkthroughs people keep adding. However, I don't know if even that is acceptable on Wikipedia. SixteenBitJorge 20:01, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

text: As of now, the Boss "section" is just a link to the TW Characters page. Old Characters... pages, as you say, do include such basic strategy, so it's either delete those instances or write such strategy into the TW Characters page. I do think the latter would be harder to enforce, however. --Zooba 20:37, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please add information on the last dungeon boss (SPOILERS) 

message: I have attempted many times to do the Bridge glitch, and I can't do it. Can anyone here get themselves the have bridge glitch? I can't seem to do it intentionally. Can anyone confirm it's a real glitch? Some are claiming the YouTube video was a hoax. Are there any other sources for it? I can't repeat it. Bradibus 23:13, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Glitches usually are not important enough to warrant mentioning in an encyclopedia article.  I've occasionally experienced the type of glitch where your character falls "through" the terrain and either (1) dies, or (2) causes the game to freeze, but rare phenomena are of extermely specialist interest and not notable in general.  So unless you think this merits some mention in the article, someone might mistake this discussion as pertaining to the game more than the article. --Stratadrake 23:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't. I should have made my point more clear: There was a section in the article talking about the game's glitches, this one included. However, this one happens to not be reproducible. Either way, the glitches section was removed, so I suppose there's no problem. Bradibus 01:28, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bridge Glitch not verifiable 

message: I split the Bosses from the Dungeons/Settings, because there doesn't seem to be enough information to share between this article and the Characters... page. Also, I thought it would be worthwhile detailing the separate dungeons/settings of the game, similar to the page of settings in Ocarina of Time. --Zooba 13:41, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting Bosses and Dungeons/Settings 

message: How could he die if he re-appears in later games, TWW for example since TP takes place before TWW.
:I'm not sure. Even the split time-line theory doesn't support this, since twilight Princess would be in the same side of it as Wind Waker. The Wind Waker page says that Link descends a hidden staircase, where he finds the Master Sword, the evil-repelling blade that the Hero of Time used to seal Ganondorf, so maybe in between TP and TWW, Ganon is sealed away again? --Zooba 18:58, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm perfectly willing to accept the theory that it's just a plot device, but that's not really poetic enough to be accepted as canon. SixteenBitJorge 19:54, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no official canon anyways, and it is enough IMO. TJ Spyke 21:44, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wording about Ganon 'dies'