Talk:Resident Evil 4/Archive 1

message: I have started a website revolving around ResE 4, an RPG "emulation" of Resident Evil 4. would it be acceptable if i put a link to it at the bottom of the page?
I added it since no one seems to have any feelings on the matter
Playwrite 23:49, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Adding links to a website you've created is Spam; Wikpedia has policies against such. I'm very sorry, but I'm going to have to remove your link. Ex-Nintendo Employee 01:19, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pen and Paper RPG

message: Under the subject "Regional Differences," it is mentioned that Japanese and North American versions of this game feature different localizations. Would someone care to elaborate? --AWF
mostly just translation of the language.
Playwrite 00:04, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Localization

message: Do you really think a walkthrough is appropriate material?  This is an encyclopedia, not a game guide.  The entry for car doesn't tell you how to drive one.  Syosset 04:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Walkthrough??

message: Apparently there used to be something about eggs doing something special against Krauser. Can anyone confirm or deny this?
Denied. None of the eggs have any effect on either form. -- TheDarkArchon 11:34, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eggs vs Krauser? 

message: I understand how it's important for people to realize that RE4 changed the gameplay of Resident Evil, but whoever wrote this decided to use that as the basis for his rant/review. It's a blatant display of the author's opinions, and should be removed.
Yeah, I have to agree with you on this one. --Snkcube 1:42, August 23 2005
Also agreed.  The departure section needs to be removed or, at the very least, edited to omit the obvious bias.  Please change this...quickly.--buckeyes1186 15:09, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Departure" section 

message: Could someone give a little more detail in to the differences between the Normal and Easy modes of the PAL-version? I just finished the game in Easy mode and the only thing that I really noticed, not having played the normal game, that at no point was I poisoned. I believe that the inclusion of the "hidden snakes" that jump at you when you open certain boxes was to cause Leon to get poisoned. Also, are there more enemies in the Normal mode? Are they more difficult to kill? I thought that there was quite a lot of ammo around in the easy mode but the article claims that to be a quite generic feature. Also do items cost significantly more in the Normal game?
Poison isn't in Resi 4 at all. The only differences I could is is the availiability of ammo, the endurance of enemies and the fact Leon starts with the shotgun on easy. -- TheDarkArchon 16:06, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  PAL Easy-version 

message: Shouldn't it be in the infobox? Nearly every other game page has the game cover in the infobox. -- Thorpe talk 21:06, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there are many variations of the game cover, I think it's okay to leave them in another section. -- Snkcube 21:59, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game cover 

message: I found something about that in the Japanese Biohazard 4 site (PS2), what's the deal with that? Easier than easy?
:From my understanding, it appears to be a difficulty setting with non-aggressive enemies. I don't have the JPN version of the PS2 Bio4, so I wouldn't know firsthand. Jonny2x4 03:21, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amateur Mode 

message: The article looks fine to me. Why does it need copyediting? — mæstro t/c, 10:13, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyediting? 

message: Ada's shotgun from Seperate Ways looks very similar to Duke Nukem 3D's shotgun (Ada's shotgun is brown (rusted?) instead of black and lacks the radiation logo). Coincidence? -- TheDarkArchon 16:03, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ada's Shotgun 

message: Can anyone confirm or deny Resident Evil 4 being added to the Player's Choice program?
: --Snkcube 05:38, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Gamecube version was re-released as a Players Choice title when RE4 was released for PS2.  CardinalFangZERO 03:57, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lower Price? 

message: I know this might not be the best question, but out of ALL the people they could have use , like Chris, or Jill, or Rebecca, or anyone else. But why did they choose HUNK, I think it might be because he is a "cool" Character and they might have wanted to put him in a game with a longer apperance, or it might be because of player request...... Also another question, I just wanted to know if RE 4 Was not a part of the "main" series and it is a side-quest kinda like outbreak, Just wanted to know what yall think because i think so, also why was it set 6 years later???  PLease reply.
:HUNK plays a minor role in the Resident Evil storyline.
:It is speculated that he is a mercenary for hire, working on behalf of Albert Wesker, who also makes an appearance.
:Perhaps Capcom have decided to include him in the future storyline, or they may just keep him in limbo, as a playable character in the popular Mercenaries mode.
:I certainly look forward to his next appearance, hopefully Capcom will decide what to do with him. 80.42.203.166 23:21, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  HUNK??? 

message: There are plenty of incorrect facts about the guns in this game. Shouldn't this be in the weapons list instead? --Crazysunshine 22:15, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goofs? 

message: Deleted the Matrix refrence.... It is completely unfounded as Krauser was just calling her a name based on his opinion of her and her trademark outfit. As I said it was completely unfounded. (Koolsen 23:21, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Media Refrences 

message: If you don't mind me asking, where did those PC release dates come from?  I never seen those before. Vgamer101 02:36, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PC version 

message: An anon removed a significant addition in regards to the Ganados' abilities- that is, unlike prior RE games, they curse at you and will even talk to one another in order to surround and ensnare the player, attempting to lure Leon into traps they have set up. If you visit any of the various translation sites, , You can read the translations for Está en la trampa, Cabrón and Ponle una trampa. -- Daniel Davis 01:27, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ganados Abilities 

message: I take it that the article has been deleted?  If so, the link on this page needs to be deleted too.  No point providing a link to a page that doesn't exist.
:: Yep. Go ahead. Ex-Nintendo Employee 22:44, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Weapon list article

message: Does anybody know the origin of the word Bitores? I have never heard of that name until I played RE4 and read his name in one of the files. Is it even Spanish? Or is it a portmanteau of Spanish words like Novistador is?
:I did some research. "Ores" means "prayer". And in old Iberian Spanish, a "bit" was a form of spanish currency, a portion of a "Re-al". Combine the two, and you get a first name meaning literally "Money and Prayer". Bitores. Mendez, a last name, means "inheritor of wisdom". So- the full meaning- "money and prayer inherits wisdom". Ex-Nintendo Employee 05:18, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bitores Mendez 

message: I don't think Krauser's "conservative mind" comment was referring to the current war on terrorism as the article's references section suggests. I think Krauser is just trying to justify his work with Wesker and rationalize his crazy new plans. Besides, that's more of a speculation and a rumor than anything else. If no one objects for a while I'll remove it. --Crazysunshine 07:40, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Conservative mind"

message: Resident evil 4 is the 4th game in the main series.
Code Veronica and REZ (Z for Zero) as significant as they may be to a Resident Evil fan, they are not part of the main series story-wise.
If you watch the cutscene at the start of the RE4, it tells you the events of RE3 and that was the end of umbrella and the zombie outbreak was wiped out with Raccon City's destruction.
So you are given no clue as to what the events in Code Veronica have to do with the main series.
The sequel to RE3 is RE4, not Code Veronica.
There was supposed to be a sequel to Code Veronica that marked Chris's return to destroy Umbrella but that was never released.
Instead that event was tied up in The Umbrella Chronicles where Chris returns to see to it that really is the end of Umbrella, but those events didn't happen until 2003, 5 years after the events of Code Veronica.
REZ is a prequel to the original game. The number Zero doesn't really count as a main series game.
RE4 is the 4th game in the main series. 
I should even add that Revelations isn't part of the main series either. Sure it was carried over to the home consoles, but the story doesn't really have any relevance to any of the other games. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.19.76.28 (talk) 20:09, 11 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: In all honesty, I cannot find a RS that confirms which RE games are considered part of the 'main series'. I am also uncertain how the editor who phrased that sentence came about that number. A fan theory is not sufficient for verifying this claim. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk   00:08, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
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message: Hey Atlan, will you please explain how that image doesn't qualify as fair use? The purpose was to show a comparison of the early games' mechanics with RE4's, which was a major departure. Would like to hear from anyone else as well -- thoughts? Diff for reference. PcPrincipal (talk) 20:34, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Ignoring the fair use piece, the image is not very helpful. Such 2-image boxes are helpful when a game has two different styles of gameplay modes. A reader quickly looking through will make this assumption. TarkusABtalk 22:05, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Appreciate the response. Thanks for addressing the purpose of including the RE2 image (i.e. comparison). PcPrincipal (talk) 22:30, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

text: Given that RE4 does differ so greatly from the original games, and given that the original games feature very distinct mechanics, is there some way that you (or anyone else who wants to weigh in) can imagine displaying this visually? PcPrincipal (talk) 22:35, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say adding a still from Resident Evil 2 is a bit of stretch for fair use, unless there was a paragraph or two specifically talking about differences between just RE4 and RE2 as opposed to all prior RE games. A mere clause in a single sentence is unfortunately not enough wait to justify the inclusion on non-free material. Perhaps more information can be added in the development section to discuss the differences between the early version (which lacked a HUD and over-the-shoulder camera) of the game and the final product. --  StarScream1007  ►Talk   23:05, 5 December 2018 (UTC)

text: Adding to what StarScream1007 already said, I'd say that the differences in gameplay aren't readily apparent in that picture anyway. It's hard to qualify for fair use when the image seems to have no added benefit.--Atlan (talk) 12:30, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Appreciate all the responses. If it is agreed that the necessary weight for including the RE2 image is not present, that's fine. I'll comb back through the entry and see if there's anything further about the gameplay that might be touched on. Thanks to all! PcPrincipal (talk) 17:20, 6 December 2018 (UTC)

text: Per topics of this discussion, went to the Resident Evil franchise page and added a section on gameplay. It's not super long yet but I think more could be added. Go for it! PcPrincipal (talk) 23:13, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It's good to keep in mind that Wikipedia has a strict interpretation of fair use (and copyright in general). Whenever you need to consider whether an image qualifies, it's best to err on the side of caution.--Atlan (talk) 11:01, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reversion of RE2 still for gameplay comparison 

message: It should be noted that games such as Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell had "pioneered" an effective use of 'over-the-shoulder' third person shooting about 3 years prior to Resident Evil 4. Even though 'pioneered' and 'introduced' are somewhat vague words, they are both pretty misleading in implying the Resident Evil 4 was the first popular game to do it. --46.17.163.185 (talk) 16:26, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The sources say it pioneered the over-the-shoulder perspective, meaning the game's primary gameplay perspective. The example you shared is only when the character is aiming. Furthermore, you need a reliable source. TarkusABtalk 17:05, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
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