Talk:Dunfermline

message: ===Description===
This article would cover all Fife-related articles such as places, famous people, museums, football and rugby clubs and churches to name a few. Examples would be: Kirkcaldy, Andrew Carnegie, Adam Smith, Dunfermline Abbey, Dunfermline Athletic, The Old Course and Kirkcaldy Museum and Art Gallery. This could also help support articles that really do need a lot of work while keeping general maintenance. Examples would be: Methil, Dunfermline, Cupar and a lot of the smaller towns such as Kennoway and Lower Largo. Please see the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Wikiproject_WikiProject_Fife. Kilnburn (talk) 16:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikiproject WikiProject Fife 

message: This article would cover all Fife-related articles such as places, famous people, museums, football and rugby clubs and churches to name a few. Examples would be: Kirkcaldy, Andrew Carnegie, Adam Smith, Dunfermline Abbey, Dunfermline Athletic, The Old Course and Kirkcaldy Museum and Art Gallery. This could also help support articles that really do need a lot of work while keeping general maintenance. Examples would be: Methil, Dunfermline, Cupar and a lot of the smaller towns such as Kennoway and Lower Largo. Please see the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals#Wikiproject_WikiProject_Fife. Kilnburn (talk) 16:26, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Description

message: i would like to start a new article and hopefully extend the info on here. i recently wrote one for Victoria Hospital (Kirkcaldy) if you care to look and now want to do one for you too Kilnburn (talk) 13:11, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Queen Margaret Hospital article

message: Changed this: "The Royal Burgh of Dunfermline (in Gaelic, Dùn Phàrlain) is the only official city in Fife, Scotland."
Dunfermline is more accurately described as a former city 
I don't agree with you saying that "Dunfermline is more accurately described as a former city", because your citing of  states that Rochdale, Perth and Elgin are the only former cities in the UK.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.153.162.41 (talk) 12:59, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  City Status 

message: Removed this: Dunfermline has an estimated (mid-2005) population of 58,000,Scotland mid-2005 population estimates by locality. The General Register Office for Scotland. with 76,850Scotland mid-2005 population estimates by settlement. The General Register Office for Scotland. people living in the Dunfermline area.
: The links don't work (404 errors) and the numbers seem inaccurate.  A reliable source is at , gives 39,229 --duncan 07:07, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The links from the same official source say Settlement of Dunfermline is 77,060, whilst Dunfermline is 44,950. The settlement includes Inverkeithing, Rosyth, Dalgety Bay etc combined as one figure. The wording of the opening paragraph on the Dunfermline page states "the population of Dunfermline is 77,060" and not the listed settlement population, so this is inaccurate. --Revolt (talk) 12:40, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

text: GRO Scotland
See references to populations in the articles Dunfermline and West Fife Demographics, the most recent count from the Scottish Census 2011 is shown there.  --Aaron McHale (talk) 00:53, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

message: The information entered about Queen Anne all relates to Dunfermline High school and its refounding by Queen Anne(as historically recorded)
Queen Anne High schools history starts much later.
*Is it really even necessary to have so much on Dunfermline High? It doesn't hold that much significance in the town, its just a school
**Split it into a separate page if you think it merits it.--duncan 07:11, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not everything on the page about Dunfermline has to have 'history'; the page can reflect the current state of the town, and if that means having sections on the various schools, then so be it.  The school might be of less historic interest than Dunfermline HS, but it's not 'vanity' to keep the information there. As a school of 1800 pupils, it's hardly 'vanity'. Basically, if the information is encyclopedic, relevant and notable, it belongs here, and I believe it fits all that criteria.--duncan 10:50, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

text: ok then, in that case give them just brief mentions, including Dunfermline HS (which may be better in its own article anyway). --duncan 07:57, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  High Schools 

message: The big country article (a band) says this is the town that they are from and I think that should be added to this article.
*go ahead and add it to the notable people section then.--duncan 15:59, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big Country 

message: Please could we have a separate section on Dunfermline Music and Theatre?  There are many amateur societies based in Dunfermline, often performing at the Carnegie Hall.
The Wikipedia page for Kirkcaldy has a music and theatre section - maybe we could have one like theirs?
Many thanks,
FionaVa 14:38, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dunfermline Music and Theatre 

message: There are currently updates and reversions to this subsection. One of the problems is that it should not be a standalone subsection. We need to decide if it is (or parts of it should be) 1)Economy/Retail, 2) Architecture, or 3) Geography. This is an encyclopedia. We aren't just regurgitating random bits of information into each article. There is a format that we follow. There are reasons for these sections and subsections. I suspect that either it is WP:SPAM and should be deleted or that it is Economy/Retail. There is a possibility that some of it is Geographic, but I doubt it. I don't see anything that is "architectural" about the subsection. Can we address the issues as a explanation of Dunfermline's commercial success/ambition? Student7 (talk) 21:57, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The only reason to retain town centre integrally would be to promote it. This would be violate WP:SPAM. Wikipedia ahould not be used for promotion. Student7 (talk) 01:23, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

text: I think the American idiom (which I am not suggesting we use either) is "big box store." "Bulky goods" is just too locally idiomatic for me. Can't we find another substitute? What's wrong with the linked article without change "warehouse goods?"173.79.111.95 (talk) 00:12, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Town Centre

message: Looking at the landmarks, it shows signs of being a "walking tour." This is not WikiTravel or a travel site. It should be enough to say the landmarks are all within two kilometers (or whatever) of one another and simply describe them individually. Knowing what street they are on is not significant unless the street is, by itself, of real importance as a landmark. Student7 (talk) 22:36, 23 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Landmarks

message: Why were notables removed? All other towns have them. Student7 (talk) 21:24, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: An editor has questioned the reliability of the notable list. If any are questioned, please flag them with a  tag and we will remove them if no WP:RELY footnotes are forthcoming. Most of the older ones should be on broshers (I've always wanted to use that word!  :) handed out by local city promoters. They are probably correct but it wouldn't hurt to verify them anyway. Student7 (talk) 01:00, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Notables

message: The idea of edit summaries is to help other editors understand why something is being edited. For examples, saying "I am removing notables" is not helpful. We can see that. But why are notables being removed. What prompted you to remove them. Edit wars usually start over trivialities like failing to explain why something is done.
Please use edit summaries. Be loquacious! Student7 (talk) 21:24, 24 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit summaries

message: Please fill in the edit summaries as to why you are changing something. We can figure out that you have deleted the notables. What we don't understand is why you have deleted the notables!
We are supposed to be following  Wikipedia:UKCITIES. They have a format. One of the things in the format is (essentially) footnotes. This is its own section. It is not under another section. This is true for all Wikipedia articles, not just this one.
There is a separate subsection for Sports. I will try to move stuff that was just moved, to this new subsection. Student7 (talk) 01:35, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: One more time

message: There is an outline at WP:UKCITIES that this article should follow. We do not need to invent the wheel with each article. The idea is to give the same style to each city article so readers feel comfortable with the similarity of each article. Having each article different would not accomplish that. Student7 (talk) 19:29, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Outlines

message: I have requested edit summaries. This is the third time. Other editors have watched as churches have apparently "diaappeared" for no reason. Please stop changing stuff withing giving a reason WHY. Thanks.Student7 (talk) 19:50, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Third time

message: Botched my edit summary just now - Dunfermline is no longer a city and Royal Burghs no longer exist. See above. Mutt Lunker (talk) 14:57, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  City, Royal Burgh 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Dunfermline is to become a city later in the year so can we note this accordingly and avoid incorrectly denoting that it is one already, please? Mutt Lunker (talk) 11:33, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reverted it back to town and readded a note in the lead saying that it won't officially be a city until later in the year as I don't think there's been an official date released yet. Suonii180 (talk) 12:10, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  City 

message: Population density of the city reflects a population of 10,500 instead of over 50,000. Density should be changed from 1498/ sq mi (578/ sq km) to 8276/sq mi (3197/sq km) 2601:C3:4200:7F30:C43A:FDC7:53DB:2DD1 (talk) 17:55, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 23:13, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2022 

message: Change town to city. Source https://www.gov.uk/government/news/dunfermline-among-record-number-of-city-status-winners 2A02:C7E:145E:FE00:389D:53AF:4D88:1353 (talk) 18:17, 26 May 2022 (UTC
:No, per the source "‘Letters Patent’ will now be prepared which will confer each of the awards formally and will be presented to winners later in the year'." Mutt Lunker (talk) 21:09, 26 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 26 May 2022 (2) 

message: Needs updating this 2A00:23C5:DA94:6D01:A194:888F:565A:504F (talk) 21:37, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: See Talk:Dunfermline#City above. Mutt Lunker (talk) 22:01, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isn’t Dunfermline a city? 

message: Change "town, parish" to " city, parish" due to Dunfermline being granted city status 2A00:23C5:DA8C:9E01:8DBE:50A8:BDF7:B3A5 (talk) 20:23, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: See above, have to wait until it's offiial. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 20:29, 15 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 July 2022 

message: Dunfermline is no longer a town and has officially been a city since May this year. Widely reported. 
https://www.fife.gov.uk/news/2022/dunfermline-granted-city-status-by-queen#:~:text=Dunfermline%20is%20celebrating%20its%20new,Queen's%20platinum%20jubilee%20in%202022. 2A02:C7E:1446:1F00:C52:6145:202F:C1F3 (talk) 19:49, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: Please see all of the discussions about this above. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:57, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 October 2022 

message: Dunfermline has been granted city status.  It should be described as a city. 2A02:C7F:189D:4A00:31F2:D567:49EA:6FA3 (talk) 09:57, 3 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. The article already says it is a city, in several places.  RudolfRed (talk) 03:53, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The request predates the changes. Eventually (see above), the bludgeoning IP-hopper's repeated request had become valid. Mutt Lunker (talk) 08:40, 4 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 October 2022 

message: I made a start at expanding the list of Provosts but gave up when I got to 88 and still had large gaps in the coverage. I think there are four options:
*keep expanding the section as is
*expand the section as a collapsible table 
*add the list as a new Wiki article
*delete the section
So, what is the best solution?  If we really need a list of all the Provosts then the collapsible table seems the most practical - doesn't clutter up the main article and doesn't link to a Wiki page that nothing else is likely to link to. Halmyre (talk) 11:50, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Provosts