Talk:Shelley Shannon

message: Why is she called a sniper?  Was she a police sniper as a civilian?  There is no source given for the claim.
Also, she used a pistol.  A pistolier perhaps, but not a sniper.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.80.15.128 (talk) 23:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've substituted the good, old-fashioned word gunslinger David in DC (talk) 14:39, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sniper? 

message: The fact that she shot someone does not make her a sharpshooter. Substantiate the claim that she has some history of exceptional marksmanship or this term should be deleted.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.1.104.176 (talk) 17:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: She was aiming to stop a surgeon from working. She shot the surgeon once in each arm.  That's in all the sources.  It's pretty darned notable marksmanship.  I'm not married to "sharpshooter".  I welcome a better word.  Marksman?  Markswoman? Gunslinger has been rejected already. An accurate word is what we're after. Anybody got a good suggestion?David in DC (talk) 19:51, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Got a great one: how about "religiously motivated wannabe murderer"? Short of that I think "religious terrorist" will suffice.Inoculatedcities (talk) 22:41, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Agreed. Inoculatedcities (talk) 22:41, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sharpshooter? 

message: Here is a source: Leaders and Their Followers in a Dangerous World By Jerrold M. Post, p. 135.-Andrew c [talk] 23:45, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Can I get a quote from the perpetrator? - Schrandit (talk) 23:28, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Seriously, do we have any statement from the perpetrator that the action was motivated by religion? - Schrandit (talk) 04:21, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Good question.  Although it was shown here that the perpetrator signed a statement linked with a religious organization and she allegedly claimed she is a "prisoner for Christ" or something similar, none of that proves that her violent *actions* were religiously motivated, especially when her alleged religion doesn't allow for such action to be taken over her types of concerns. This is a fine distinction, but, an important one that seems to be frequently glossed over. Also,  please note, there does exist a non-theological, purely scientific-based view held by some in the pro-life community that life begins at conception since the egg begins to change at the point of fertilization and that change process, left uninterrupted, leads to birth.  Of course, a living organism's changes don't stop at birth and continue until death. This view could be held by Ms. Shannon, as she may see herself merely as an ally of those who are pro-life from a religious perspective. 71.112.248.214 (talk) 23:46, 11 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religiously motivated? 

message: The sentence stating Shelly would not need an abortion until 2018, is an assumption. This statement assumes she would support abortion, and she would be in need of one sometime after her release. Which at this time are only assumptions, since she is not pregnant, and does support abortion at this time. Assumptions and statements not supported by fact, are not to be included in Wikipedia entries.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Heathinjersey (talk • contribs) 03:32, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of Shelly needing an abortion in 2018 

message: That's what they call religious people when they do her actions.  So, it makes sense.  I agree with calling her a Terrorist, because by definition....... that is what she is.  But if not, at least change it to Extremist..... geez.  "Activists" protest, hand out fliers, and knock on doors.  Extremists cause physical harm to people because of their EXTREME beliefs. K69 (talk) 23:23, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  She's ''NOT'' a Pro Life Activist - She ''IS'' a Pro Life Extremist 

message: I've deleted this from the article because it's so specific, but cannot be found, or at least I cannot find it, in a reliable source. Please re-add it if you can find a source: 
"She was followed to her getaway car by a witness who described the license plate as having an unusual design. The Wichita Police Chief, Rick Stone, recognized the witness' description of the license plate design as that used by an Oklahoma rental car company and he had the authorities in Oklahoma immediately alerted. Shannon was arrested by waiting officers when she attempted to return the car to the rental agency."
Thanks. David in DC (talk) 01:15, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Details of arrest 

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message: I've changed the initial sentence to say Shannon is an "anti-abortion extremist". Previously it had read "...is best known in US media reports as an anti-abortion extremist", which is needlessly watered down IMO. First of all, it's not just "in US media reports", it's been reported internationally; secondly, it's not just in the media, it's in actual legal/court documents--to say nothing of the fact that one would have to be biased to the point of perverseness not to regard this woman's actions as extremist. Far from watering the term "extremist" down with qualifiers, Shannon should in fact be called a "terrorist": that's what the judge called her, and that's clearly what she is. She has tried to terrorize, inflict harm, and assassinate people for political reasons: she's absolutely a terrorist. But if we're not going to say "terrorist" in the lede, then at least let's say "extremist" without qualifying it with modifiers like "best known in US media reports as...". Chillowack (talk) 02:45, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  There's no reason to water down the opening sentence