Talk:May Robson

message: I strongly suspect this is the case but I don't want to simply assert it as a fact without confirmation.  Does anybody know?  JackofOz 00:06, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: First Australian to be Oscar-nominated?

message: The following information was removed from the Infobox, because it is not standard or notable information that would be included there. 
Here's the information that was removed:
:Family Still Alive Today- Virginia Gore Vickters (Granddaughter of Mrs. Robson) Alexandra Gore Chipernoi / Wilkinson (Great Grandaughter of Mrs. Robson) Danielle Gore Wilkinson (Great Great Grandaughter of Mrs. Robson) Zackery John Wilkinson (Great Great Grandson)
These top family members are the most commonly talked about in Mrs. Robsons life, they are still alive today, and keep telling stories about Mrs. Robson. --CaroleHenson (talk) 04:43, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox information 

message: The following information was moved from the article to this space to 1) copy edit as needed for grammar, etc. and 2) to sort out what is notable information for the article.  For a "Family" or "Personal life" section, it would be helpful to have information in the section relevant to her marriages and children - and possibly information about notable family members, such as her great-granddaughter Alexander Chipernoi, especially if there is a related article.
:Mrs. Robson had not so many family members, but still had many friends and family that she loved and trusted with most of her life... Virginia Gore Vickters- Who was Mrs. Robson's granddaughter, and who had known Mrs. Robson the most, out of all the other family members. Alexandra Gore Chipernoi- It the daughter of Mrs. Virginia Gore Vickters, and became successful at many things. For an example... For most of her life she had a singing career that she chose out of many other talents, some of her songs are "Just Like The Moon" (which was one of her most popular) "Bangin on My Heart" etc. She was also a model for many companies and became even more successful then she was with her singing career. She modeled for Vogue Magazine, Elle, and a couple others. But these wonderful talents soon died down once she had children. (Danielle Gore Wilkinson & Zackery John Wilkinson) Danielle Gore Wilkinson- Miss Danielle Gore Wilkinson is the granddaughter of Mrs. Virginia Gore Vickers, and the daughter of Mr. Alvin Guy Wilkinson & Mrs. Alexandra Gore Chipernoi. Miss Danielle Wilkinson is still alive today, and is soon to be starting in a modeling agency following the footsteps of her family members.  Zackery John Wilkinson- Mr. Zackery John Wilkinson is a sibling to Miss Danielle Gore Wilkinson, a son to Mr. Alvin Guy Wilkinson & Mrs. Alexandra Gore Chipernoi, a grandson to Mrs. Virginia Chipernoi, and a nephew to Miss Sarah Gore.  Sarah Gore- Miss Sarah Gore is a sister to Mrs. Alexandra Wilkinson, an aunt to Miss Danielle Wilkinson & Zackery John Wilkinson, and a daughter to Mrs. Virginia Gore Vickters.
:Related By Marriage- 1) Mr. Alvin Guy Wilkinson 2) Mr. Laurence Chipernoi
For more information, see Wikipedia:Wikipedia is an encyclopedia.--CaroleHenson (talk) 04:51, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family 

message: By the time she began her acting career in 1883, two of Robson's three children had died by 1892. 
This does not compute.  --  Jack of Oz [pleasantries] 12:55, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I was very tired when I started this last night! It has been corrected.--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:03, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Timing conflict

message: I see that Australia was removed without a clarification. Biographies and public records state that she was from Australia or Australia (England), meaning a colony of England.
If Australia is not right, what is the proper name to use?--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:48, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: See also Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Proper names for your point about what it was named at the time -- and the use of "what is now..."--CaroleHenson (talk) 16:55, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've thought about this and use/non-use of the country name is likely a non-issue. There many articles about the U.S. that don't include the U.S. in a place name.--CaroleHenson (talk) 21:20, 2 September 2014 (UTC)

text: Hi CaroleHenson. As I stated in my edit summary Australia did not exist in 1858 (it was created as a sovereign state in 1901), so to include in the infobox is inappropriate. Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Proper names does support this, in particular An article about Junipero Serra should say he lived in Alta Mexico not the U.S. state of California because the latter entity did not exist at the time of Junipero Serra; so we should use the name for that particular point in time. Thanks. Zarcadia (talk) 21:40, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, I agree on that point. I was trying to get to "what is the proper name to use?" - but as I noted at 21:20, upon reflection it's really a non-issue.--CaroleHenson (talk) 21:53, 2 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australia 

message: Was Robson a performance artist? This is only mentioned in the lead, which describes her as the "first performance artist to receive an Academy Award nomination". What is meant by this statement? WikkanWitch (talk) 12:02, 24 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Performance artist? 

message: As well as being largely unsourced, this account of her family is far too much information and Robson's story gets lost in the minutiae of her family. I think it needs a major edit down.Nickm57 (talk) 02:29, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Life 

message: I am returning the cited content to the article... and placing uncited content here. Perhaps someone has information about where this came from:
* Her youngest son died on 26 April 1882 and her daughter died shortly after on 1 May 1882.
* but by 1880 Julia is recorded as living in California with James. Julia is also recorded in California from 1912 to her death in 1914.
* During these difficult times no mention is made of any family support for Mary. She had grandparents who were living in New York in 1850, and she may have had uncles, aunts and cousins still there in the early 1880s. She may also have had her brother James nearby.
* James Leman Robison was naturalized in Newark, New Jersey, on 11 April 1877 and lived in San Francisco from about 1880 to his death in 1920. In 1880 he was listed as a teacher, as a journalist in 1886 and as an attorney in 1896. His mother, Julia, and step-father, Walter Miller, were defendants in a court case in England in 1875 and 1878.National Archives, England,  J 55/20/102 This citation is incomplete and its notability is in question
* Walter Miller (1830-) was born in Norwich, Norfolk, England and admitted as a Solicitor there in 1854; declared insolvent in 1855; moved to Victoria, Australia and was admitted as a Solicitor in 1857 practicing in Belvoir (Wodonga). 
** Walter Miller was a partner with De Courcy Ireland in the firm of "Miller and Ireland" at 100 Elizabeth Street, Melbourne in November 1867. The partnership was dissolved by mutual consent on 20 January 1870 with James L. Robison acting as witness to the legal notice.  edited and moved to the article.--CaroleHenson (talk) 08:14, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: In general, what makes Robson noteworthy is her acting career. If any information should be expanded upon, it would seem that would be the area to work on.--CaroleHenson (talk) 08:29, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Great work tidying this up Carole - well done. Nickm57 (talk) 21:19, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, , Although I have read that she was an exceptionally bright woman, I was unable to find any evidence that she attended college or university. So, I removed "Robson attended the University of Edinburgh" from the article. If someone does find a source, though, that would be helpful.--CaroleHenson (talk) 22:28, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncited content 

message: I don't understand this:
At the 1880 census, Charles, ‘Poppy’ and three children were living at 36th Street. 
* The records state that Charles' wife was named "Poppy" - is there any other source that says that May was nicknamed Poppy?
** May is recorded as 'Poppy' on her Marriage Certificate and in the Marriage Notice in The Times.Colinrosewell (talk)
* Charles L Gore was said to be 35 and Poppy 20, but other accounts, including by Robson say that they were just a couple years apart in age.
* The record states that her parents were born in France, but they were from England.
* Her first two children were said to have been born in England, but that timing seems off - especially for the second child, as they arrived in New York in 1877.
* Edward, her surviving son, was born in 1876 - but he's not in this census.
Regarding this:
*Mary says "We came to New York, my husband, my three children and myself, and began life over again practically without a dollar. Shortly afterwards my husband died." 
is there a source for the statement?--CaroleHenson (talk) 03:25, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early new york years