Talk:Foxit Software

message: My name is Alisa and I work at FoxIt Software. I would like to request an impartial, uninvolved editor consider deleting the following content below from the History section. All of this content is cited to the China Securities Regulatory Commission or short blurbs, rather than proper secondary sources. It appears to have been written by someone with a disproportionate interest in FoxIt's operations in China.
"a Chinese national with permanent residence in the United States" (cited to the China Securities Regulatory Commission)
"In December 2015, Foxit went public on the Chinese over-the-counter market NEEQ." (cited to a short blurb)
"Before 2019, Amazon was an early investor and substantial shareholder of Foxit, once owning 12.38％ of the latter's shares, before divesting in 2019 to make Foxit eligible for a simplified IPO process for domestic companies in China." (cited to the China Securities Regulatory Commission)
"In June 2020, the parent company of the group, Fujian Foxit Software Development Joint Stock Co., Ltd., received permission to list in the Shanghai Stock Exchange STAR Market (the Sci-Tech Innovation Board). According to Foxit's pre-IPO disclosures, it seeks to raise RMB 409 million (approximately USD 49 million)." (cited to a short blurb)
"As a technology company, Foxit is eligible to receive a reduced tax rate of 15% in China. It also received RMB 13 million of Chinese government subsidies in 2019. As of 2019, most of Foxit's software development has been taking place within China, while over 90% of its revenue was earned outside of China, in markets such as the United States, Europe, Japan and Australia." (cited to the China Securities Regulatory Commission)
Additionally, I would like to ask that the very first paragraph of the introductory section be re-written (I can put together a proposed draft upon request) as FoxIt is an American company with global headquarters in Fremont, California. Fujian, China is where the company's regional headquarters are. Alisafetic (talk) 20:14, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you  for respecting Wikipedia's conflict-of-interest policy and requesting these edits here. I do agree that sourcing material to blurbs may raise questions; on the other hand, the source here – the China Securities Regulatory Commission – will be considered a reliable source in my view. Where I see problems, though, is that your proposed edits seem to focus on expunging information about Foxit's Chinese origin and links. Am I correct? Regards, — kashmīrī TALK 21:41, 11 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:RSPRIMARY says "Large blocks of material based purely on primary sources should be avoided." Here, half the history section is based on primary sources. Those primary sources have been misinterpreted, resulting in factual errors (e.g. FoxIt is based in Fremont, California, not China). The primary sources also create neutrality issues by focusing the page on China, though Foxit has similar government filings in dozens of other countries. Yes, I am trying to remove the content about China, because it is misleading, improperly sourced, creates undue emphasis, etc. in violation of Wikipedia's rules. Alisafetic (talk) 19:06, 1 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Alisafetic - responding to your request - I agree with Kashmiri that that source is ok. The relevant policy is WP:ABOUTSELF - the company's filing to a regulatory agency is a reliable source of information about the company itself. If there are reliable sources that call it an American company, then please present them. SmartSE (talk) 09:25, 2 March 2021 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia rules allow legal documents to be used for a citation. Boredathome101 (talk) 09:23, 16 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested Edits  

message: All conversations in this talk page is about whether or not Foxit is located in Fremont, California, or Fuzhou, China. Foxit is in fact a China-headquartered company, and I have added reliable sourcing to that effect. These sourced changes have been reverted, despite my explanations in this talk page, and without any response by those doing the reverting. I figure it would be helpful for me to explain, line-by-line, my edits, and the sourcing behind those edits.
I primarily used Foxit's own annual report for the changes. Those who revert my edits use Foxit's website to claim that Foxit is headquartered in Fremont. Foxit's website is an unreliable source, because it is primarily a marketing platform by Foxit to market their products. Foxit has many clients in the U.S., and has a motive to market itself as an American company. On the other hand, Foxit's annual report is a legal document submitted to China's securities regulator, and everything presented in the annual report legally must be accurate.
Here are the reasons why Foxit is a Chinese company:
*This article is about the company that makes the Foxit line of PDF-related editing software. That company's full legal name is Fujian Foxit Software Development Joint Stock Co., Ltd. (福建福昕软件开发股份有限公司), also known as "company (公司)" throughout the annual report as a shorthand, (p. 5) and its registered address (公司注册地址) and offices (公司办公地址) are both located in Fuzhou, China. (p. 7) 
*Fujian Foxit is the primary developer behind the Foxit line of PDF software:
::PDF 编辑器与阅读器产品是公司的核心产品，包括 PDF Editor、PDF Editor For Cloud、PDF Editor Mobile 和 PDF Reader。(p. 15)
::PDF editing and reading products are the company's core products, including PDF Editor, PDF Editor For Cloud, PDF Editor Mobile, and PDF Reader. (my translation -- remember that 'company' means Fujian Foxit)
*The Fremont, California-based Foxit entity is known as "Foxit Software Inc." This company is 100% wholly-owned by Fujian Foxit (p.255, Table - 在子公司中的权益, row 2). Fujian Foxit is the primary parent company of all of Foxit's global operations, wholly owning Foxit companies in Germany, Japan, and the Fremont, California branch. Wikipedia's article on Microsoft is about the HQ in Washington state, and for obvious reasons, not Microsoft's subsidiary in China. The same idea applies here.
*Foxit Software Inc's reported business area is "software sales" (软件销售). (p.255) This information matches with 's research above that shows Foxit's non-Chinese employees being primarily in a sales and support capacity. Foxit Software Inc is Fujian Foxit's subsidiary in the United States that helps facilitate the sale of Foxit products in the United States. This article is about the company that makes the Foxit line of PDF products, hence, it should be about the company that actually develops the software (Fujian Foxit) and not Fujian Foxit's sales branch in the United States. --haha169 (talk) 20:02, 8 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Foxit is located in China