Talk:Port of Spain

message: I have proposed that the page be moved to Port-of-Spain in accordance with Wikipedia naming conventions. Guettarda 17:02, 31 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page name 

message: Could you please decide unambigously whether the hyphens are needed or not? I mean, the title should agree with the article text consistently. Adam78 03:03, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hyphens were recently removed from the article.  Both are common - I believe that the hyphenated form is more correct.  Guettarda 03:05, 28 January 2006 (UTC)

text: As User:Nicholas Laughlin pointed out in his edits to the PoS article a while ago, Port of Spain is more common usage, while Port-of-Spain is a bit archaic (although still widely used).  Although I undid his changes for consistency, the more I thought about it the more I felt he was right.  So after thinking about it for a while, I decided to be bold.  If people feel it's a bad idea - well, that's what rollback and the AutoWikiBrowser are made for ;)  Guettarda 23:41, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hyphens 

message: I thought this link was too good to pass up.  Especially for future article expansion.  The link has an artists' rendition of the new Grand/North stand replacement to be built down the Queen's Park Savannah.   Although it's copyright it's better to have something-- as backup until something can be found in public domain. CaribDigita 01:41, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Although it's on the Express website, my assumption is that the drawing would be copyright of the architect, so I suspect that a good argument could be made for fair use.  Guettarda 04:59, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artists rendition of the new Queen's Park Savannah facilities 

message: Why? Not for any reason really, except that T-N-T's capital is not Spain's Port, which is what "Port of Spain" implies. It is instead Port-of-Spain...Ishango 20:14, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert to Hyphens 

message: I have removed the lsit of individual night club names because:
*It lacks notability - the fact that Port of Spain has an active nightlife is notable in the context of the article but the names of particular clubs are not unless there is something individually distinctive about them.
*It is unverified original research - the list is unsourced and the existence of these clubs and their representativeness of all clubs in the city cannot be determined; and
*It gives undue weight to nightclubs in the cotnext of the article - there are nigth clubs in Port of Spain, but is this such an important point that it needs a section as long as this? 
The article still points to the fact that there is an active night life and that clubs and restaurants are located on Ariapita Street. This seems sufficient unless any of the nightclubs are so distinctive that their special characteristics should be separately noted.
Other opinions welcome. Euryalus (talk) 01:13, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not remove the restaurant list as well? The list is certainly not complete and suffers the same issues. In fact, I would say the clubs are more notable than the restaurants. Akon's song Sorry, Blame It on Me has lyrics based on the infamous incident that occurred at Club Zen in Port of Spain. Machel Montano is also in court now based on an incident at and outside the club. Not saying I disagree with the decision to remove the clubs, but they certainly play a big part in Port of Spain's notability. The cultural section in the article is not representative of its importance to the city. I would be 100% for removing the list of US fast food chains as well. Rasadam (talk) 02:50, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Removing all or part of the restaurant list sounds good to mee too. I'd also say the Club Zen details you provided above are sufficiently notable to restore a mention of this club to the article - not simply because it is a nightclub in Port of Spain, but because it has notability in its own right for the reasons you give above. Euryalus (talk) 03:00, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Hello, I don't think anyone would argue the usefulness of a restaurant list to a prospective traveler. But you're missing a key underlying concept, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia not a travel guide website. The aim is to document the history and describe cities, not to serve as a tourists guide to any location. People looking for this information should visit a tourism website, like the Government Tourism Page and not this article. If you're interested in working on a travel guide Wiki, I would recommending having a look at one of the sister wiki sites, Wikitravel, which in fact has a Port of Spain page that is in dire need of expansion. Rasadam (talk) 02:11, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Rasadam, especially about the need to improve the Wikitravel Port of Spain page which contains very little useful content. Euryalus (talk) 03:24, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The nightclubs don't belong.  Simple enough.  Look at some other major cities.  Guettarda (talk) 04:13, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of nightclubs 

message: While I don't want to diminish the efforts of the contributors who have made drastic improvements to the content and quality of the article, I have serious problems with the direction this article is headed. Virtually every section, including the lead and areas relevant to modern day Port of Spain are essentially touting efforts by the Government left right and center. For example, the lead suggests this with "The Government promoted this in 2008 by launching the International Finance Center at the Port of Spain International Waterfront Centre" alluding to T&T becoming a financial powerhouse thanks to having large building. This is an opinion of the government and especially the current Prime Minister but is disputed by many people in T&T. The fact is that the current IFC only really has a hotel/conference centre (For the record, most of the summits meetings occurred on the cruise ships leased) and most of the "tall buildings" will be holding government ministries. 
The article bleeds government propaganda with heavy emphasis on Government's Vision 2020. There's way too much emphasis on proposed projects or in-construction works. As much as I love to see our country put the best foot forward on Wikipedia, having an article with government propaganda is of little encyclopedic benefit. --  R45  talk! 14:49, 21 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problems with the tone in the article 

message: I agree 100% on the section about crime and it can be expanded to include the daily purse,chain and cellphone
snatching, the prostitution, illegal vending, public defecation, traffic violations, unfair price fixing, and homeless population (who were twice literally hunted down like dogs). Google Trinidad Express for more details.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.213.229.67 (talk) 02:11, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poverty and Minor Crimes 

message: Crime is a burning issue in POS, but we need to be rational about it. To avoid anymore rumours, hearsay and speculation as opposed to hard facts being entered into the section, please don't edit it unless you have reliable sources of information or statistics. Thank you.Belchman9006 (talk) 13:21, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  CRIME SECTION 

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message: The table containing the temperatures seems to be wrong. Especially the Average highs for the first months of the year. --ALE! (talk) 14:17, 13 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate Table 

message: The population listed in the side bar is incorrect.  Port of spain's population is 49031 http://www.citypopulation.de/Trinidad.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.93.55.190 (talk) 15:50, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I have reverted changes by  that causes this. Materialscientist (talk) 21:44, 7 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

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