Talk:Curse of Ötzi the Iceman

message: This section contains comments about the curse that have been copied from the page Talk:Ötzi the Iceman, and replies thereto. Jorge Stolfi 21:54, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what you're proposing. If you want to write a treatise on the "Otzi curse", it's fictional, it's a social phenomenon, and should be spun off into its own article instead of dominating this one. In fact I think that's a good idea, it deserves about one sentence in an encyclopedia article about a serious subject.  - Nunh-huh 00:28, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

text: 'According to the NPOV Guidelines, all views should be expressed' - Not so. The NPOV guidelines state that views should be expressed neutrally. There are probably >5,000 views on Otzi - we don't want them all here. 152.91.9.115 04:12, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved comments

message: Being sceptical by nature I thought I'd see if I could find any confirmation for the claims in this section. The Independent has an article on the subject here http://news.independent.co.uk/europe/story.jsp?story=632430
(Unfortuantely I'm not a subscriber but the precis confirms that Konrad Spindler has died). The Guardian also has an article on it here http://www.guardian.co.uk/italy/story/0,12576,1463671,00.html which confirms the essential facts. Quite bizarre really Lisiate 02:56, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The Curse

message: I'm removing some of the curse "pimping": language that seeks to insinuate that the deaths were more mysterious than they were. That no one else is injured doesn't make injury in a rock slide more mysterious; the claim that open heart surgery is "routine" and is unexpected to be risky is simply false. - Nunh-huh 04:12, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Curse pimping

message: According to the NPOV Guidelines, all views should be expressed. Is it therefore not correct that we examine the curse theories, despite the apparent outlandishness. I realise that this may be a somewhat minority view, but if any other information is known surely we should mention any evidence and argument?Philipwhiuk 20:40, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what you're proposing. If you want to write a treatise on the "Otzi curse", it's fictional, it's a social phenomenon, and should be spun off into its own article instead of dominating this one. In fact I think that's a good idea, it deserves about one sentence in an encyclopedia article about a serious subject.  - Nunh-huh 00:28, 24 December 2005 (UTC)

text: 'According to the NPOV Guidelines, all views should be expressed' - Not so. The NPOV guidelines state that views should be expressed neutrally. There are probably >5,000 views on Otzi - we don't want them all here. 152.91.9.115 04:12, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV related to mysterious (curse) deaths

message: I have taken the liberty to make a separate article curse of Ötzi the Iceman from the "Curse" section of Ötzi the Iceman.  That section was becoming too big compared to the rest of the article, and its constant edits were interfering with the work of those editors who are more interested in the scientific aspects of the find. The relevant parts of the Talk page were moved too. I hope that this solution is acceptable to everybody concerned.  All the best, Jorge Stolfi 21:54, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Curse section made into separate article