Talk:Operational Support Systems

message: well my question is 
can a OSS systems exists without a Dataware??
--202.125.149.154 11:37, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Role of Dataware House in OSS 

message: removed the link to the year 2000, because it did not seem relevant to the topic being discussed
Alexymj 09:00, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  removed the link to the year 2000 

message: My assertion is that, since Operational Support Systems is abbreviated to OSS, then the words should be capitalised.  Please discuss here before changing the title. --Phil Holmes 15:07, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The assertion by above that Operations is correct and Operational is not is not true. I've worked in the field for over 15 years and have always heard it referred to as Operational. However, it's clear that there's actually no right or wrong answer - both are used, probably almost equally. So deleting the original named page and changing it without discussion seems wrong to me. I'd be interested in others' thoughts on the correct way to resolve the issue.--Phil Holmes 17:47, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Operational Support Systems or Operational support systems? 

message: This term was created by Bell Laboratories during the 1970's during the era when many job functions in telephone companies were automated by new computer systems running Unix and application programs written in C.   The term "operations" refers to telephone company groups of people who worked to keep the network functioning properly.  The term "support systems" describes automated computer systems used by "operations" staff to improve the effectiveness of this work.  Technical support teams in the telecom and IT industries are still referred to as "operations" by company management and those in the industry.  The term "operational" just means something that works .... in contrast to "non-operational" that means something does not work.  The correct terminology is thus "OPERATIONS SUPPORT SYSTEMS".  Been there, done that.  Worked for Ma Bell on OSS's during 1970's and manufacturers since then.  Check out Bell System Technical Journal and Bell Labs Record articles from 1970's.  Telecom_Eng, 14 Feb 2007 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Telecom eng (talk • contribs) 22:48, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The assertion by above that Operations is correct and Operational is not is not true. I've worked in the field for over 15 years and have always heard it referred to as Operational. However, it's clear that there's actually no right or wrong answer - both are used, probably almost equally. So deleting the original named page and changing it without discussion seems wrong to me. I'd be interested in others' thoughts on the correct way to resolve the issue.--Phil Holmes 17:47, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Operations Support Systems 

message: actually i have a question i think that OSS solution for enterprise are equivalent to an Enterprise resource planning solution am i right???
if so then why organization spent so much on ERP?
if i am wrong then can you explain the reason
:OSS systems are specific to the telecomms industry, and so include functions that many enterprises would not normally need - inventory that decribes where cables and telegraph poles are located, for example, or systems that receive alarm notifications from switches and routers.  In comparison, most other industries work on the basis of warehouse stock and the people that manipulate or add to that stock by manufacturing.  So ERP systems concentrate on stock and people, OSS systems on physical devices and how they behave.  This is a quite considerable over-simplification, but it shows the differences.
:Large implementations of ERP systems and OSS systems are either expensive or very expensive.  They're both software, right?
:By the way - it's traditional on talk pages to sign your comments.  If you click the little signature icon above (10th from the left) this will be done automatically.  --Phil Holmes 09:50, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Operational support systems vs ERP