Talk:Caesar Cardini

message: *Removal of obsolete "stuff" -- any IP. 08:13, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: On my ([[user:Any IP.]]'s) possibly POV edits

message: *Caesar Cardini 14,900 GHits
*Cesare Cardini 160 Ghits (unsigned contribution, 18:21, 20 July 2007 by user:Cricket02) -- moved here (from bottom) by any IP. 02:52, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It meanwhile is obvious that he adapted his name in favour of his English speaking guests, but stayed "Cesare" his life long -- see grave, on Findagrave. Proposal: Change "originally" into "actually" in the article. -- any IP. 07:56, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Still others quote that he was an aviator "ace" himself (quite improbable that such aviator would have been allowed to (or even have decided to) emigrate during the war!). So, "in his early twenties" might be the best choice. -- any IP. 10:11, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: On name and significant data

message: * On "Born in Lago Maggiore (en: "the bigger [of these] lakes"): It is quasi-impossible that any village nearby this rather huge lake ever bore such name, and for sure no town ever did. The LA Times reporter obviously misinterpreted some verbative "comes from L. Maggiore".  any IP. 09:44, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Place of birth

message: Most sources quote the LA Times data very probably provided by C's family, "went to the USA at the age of 20", which would mean 1916. Other sources [can be provided later] quote "After the Great War (=WW_I), which would be 1918 or later. -- any IP. 09:58, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Still others quote that he was an aviator "ace" himself (quite improbable that such aviator would have been allowed to (or even have decided to) emigrate during the war!). So, "in his early twenties" might be the best choice. -- any IP. 10:11, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Immigration to USA

message: * http://www.hillquest.com/recreation/easternhillcrestwalk.htm - :Image:Kahn Building San Diego Hillcrest.jpg (where the Cardini family operated restuarant from 1923-1972) will hopefully be accepted for "fair use" -- any IP. 09:37, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: (Carl's Jr Hamburgers, see #Tijuana tourist map -- any IP. 08:00, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding thisone I feel uncomfortable. Was it a re-opening or just one more location? -- any IP. 13:45, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

text: See visiting-card by Chenoweth on this, ...
* ...whilst Caesar's Sports Bar & Grill, "since 1930", seems very much street-level. When blowing up that picture, I decipher 1071 beneath the door, whilst the corner is reported to be at 1079 - see Caesar’s Hotel / Tijuana tourism board 2007 -- any IP. 09:37, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

text:  Restaurant Caesar's Palace, 8131 Revolucion Ave. by Tijuana tourism board, 2007 -- any IP. 09:37, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: On different Caesar's restaurants

message: * From Doral Chenoweth, Quote b)"Today the nearest to Cardini's recipe is a commercial Caesar dressing prepared and marketed by the Marzetti Co.[...] The label reads: The Original Caesar Salad Dressing." 
* From Doral Chenoweth,  Quote c, from JPG "The original Caesar's salad" (For 4 Persons; assumed to come from the Hotel Caesar's restaurant, c. 2006): 3 Medium heads romaine lettuce, chilled, dry, crisp; Dash Worcestershire sauce; Grated parmesan cheese, 5 or 6 tablespoons; Croutons, about 1 cup; Salt; Garlic flavoured salad oil about 1/3 cup; Wine vinegar, 1 to 2 tablespoons; Juice of 1 1/2 lemon; 1 raw egg; Freshly ground pepper.
* http://members.cox.net/jjschnebel/cookin.html Notes from 1998/2003 by seemingly very competent J.J. Schnebel, quoting Julia Child and the "original" recipe given to her by Rosa Cardini in mid-1970ies: Quotes: a) "To prepare the garlic oil, [...]"b) "Recently a second caveat has arisen – with regard to possible soil microbes in the garlic. The suggestion is to blanch or boil cut garlic for a few minutes before inserting it in the olive oil for several hours or several days." (The cut part is completely quoted in Caesar salad#Ingredients. -- any IP. 13:43, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: On "original recipe"

message: Question @user:Macrakis and other competent biographers: Is there a description in enWP about _how_much_quoting_ is generally tolerated? I started to work on the article when it terribly lacked sources, and I also feel that later version's quotes were somewhat "in extenso". On the other hand, in such Gordian knot of facts, legends and plain errors, quotes would help readers as well as all later contributors. I have to admit here that I only have online sources available, which often are "second rate", or less. [...] -- any IP. 16:15, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The New York Times has what it calls the Lede, its the opening paragraph or two that summarizes the stories. Its what is used when you get the article in a Google search, and what you get when you look at the article for free, before you buy it from their website, thats how I got them. Sometimes its just a few sentences, sometimes a full paragraphs, or with paid obituaries, the whole thing. Its the equivalent of an abstract that you get for a scientific article, and has always been considered fair use to quote the entire abstract. The concept was also upheld by challenges made to Google for using the Lede from news stories, except in Belgium, when using Belgian news sources. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) 02:30, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about my citations of "Chenoweth" (above)? Are they acceptable? -- any IP. 03:42, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Long citations

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message: Just a trivia. One of his brother is said to be called Caudencio, but it isn't a real Italian name. I really suspect his name is Gaudenzio (it has a pretty similar pronunciation of the english spelling of Caudencio). Do you have any source of it?--151.51.63.116 (talk) 15:37, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, no, I do not. That Italian names were used in quite an arbitrary way in USA for quite a long period of time, seems to be well-known. Best, --Wolfgang (talk) 16:38, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Brother

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