Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Gibnews

message: Lets be clear;
* [User:Panchurret|Panchurret]
* [User:Burgas00|Burgas00]
Have not tried to solve any problem they have caused one by attempting to introduce unsubstantiated defamatory material into the article about Gibraltar to further a suspect foreign POV using out-of-date sources which say different things to what they claim.
--Gibnews 17:08, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What this dispute is really about 

message: Much as I dissaprove of Gibnews' behaviour I am quite convinced that he is not a sockpuppet of Gibraltarian. Their style is different and I have seen them arguing on a number of occasions (regarding whether EU citizens need a residence permit, for example). Furthermore, Gibraltarian is an outright vandal who has contributed nothing to wikipedia whereas Gibnews' behaviour is more nuanced...--Burgas00 11:19, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, Gibnews is not a sockpuppet of Gibraltarian. --Spangineer[es] (háblame) 11:36, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Gibnews and Gibraltarian

message: Claim: "The so-called slander campaign Gibnews is constantly talking about is non-existant in wikipedia." 
I was asked to look at Wikipedia in 2003 because it claimed that Gibraltar was engaged in drug smuggling, money laundering etc those comments having being added by Spanish editors.  Until recently the Spanish language pages were equally as defamatory.
I have included sources which confirm that the use of the term 'tax haven' in 2006 implies financial wrongdoing and is perjorative.
There was a considerable and long edit war which tried to claim that the Spaniards resident in Gibraltar in 1704 who left were 'expelled' and were 'the original Gibraltarians' This is part of a sustained and offensive claim that the 'true' Gibraltarians live in San Roque and have a claim to those things we have built in Gibraltar since 1704.
Thankfully the war over Gibraltar no longer claims lives, unless one counts the two individuals who had heart attacks waiting in the queue in the hot sun to cross the frontier where deliberate delays are the order of the day. It does involve false propaganda in the Spanish media, continued obstruction of EU measures which involve Gibraltar, interference with telecommunications and endangering air safety with stupid restrictions.
I am not sure whether the high powered television station in La Linea transmitting hard core porn on the same frequency as GBC is a deliberate act, or whether its normal in Spain to be able to see explicit anal sex in the clear on analog broadcast TV in the afternoon.  (727.25Mhz Channel 53 for the curious)
As the Spanish Government does not recognise the competence of our licencing authority (although the rest of the world do) complaining is difficult.
--Gibnews 09:27, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Truth, lies and consequences

message: Well it seems Gibnews and me have managed to make peace at last. I still think he is biased in his approach and he thinks the same of me but we have the right to dissent. The important thing is that contributions to the Gibraltar article are based on adding material rather than erasing it. Gibnews is now careful in not erasing sources and he seems to have understood that there are limits to what one can do to protect the good image of his territory. Although his goodwill will be measured next time a wikipedian attempts to add a source in the article he dislikes. I will desist in acting as a policeman and will engage with him in a friendly manner from now on. He is not a vandal and I have never accused him of being one.
--Burgas00 00:24, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peace