Talk:Hindkowans

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thread_title:  "related groups" info removed from infobox 

message: I've removed him from the notable people section. Here are some pretty good reasons why:
1. The article on Shah Rukh Khan refers to him as being Pashto.
2. They use the same citations for this that this page used to prove him Hindkowan.
3. But those pages mention him being Pashto, they do not mention him being Hindkowan.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dalmatianfan52 (talk • contribs) 09:42, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shah Rukh Khan 

message: I suggest that the name of this article should be changed to Hindko language or just hindko. As i have seen no one calling themselves hindkowan, specially in Hazara, which has majority hindko speaking people. The article righfully mentions that the people in Hazara division do not associate themselves with the language but with their tribe names, unlike pushtun people, who refer to each other as pushtuns and not by their different tribe names. People of Hazara division when talk of each other belonging from Hazara divdision, call each other Hazarawal. Maybe hindkowan is a term used in pushtu, if this is the case, it must be mentioned in the article.Wikitanoli (talk) 15:07, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  HAZARAWAL NOT HINDKOWAN 

message: District Indkai and Faryab province seems to be place of Migration of Indkowans to recent location. They migrated to recent places alongth with Baluchs and Pashtu speaker. and Pashtun call them Inkai as singular and Indki as plural perhaps with the reference of their previous location as later they lost their native language. It is strange while we entering punjab the indentity with Hind is seldom found and commonly used word in history  is Bharat instead of Hindostan. Most of Historian confused their origin with by using incorrectly the using the word Hindki . Zarrigul (talk) 19:26, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indki are not Hindki 

message: "Chach" is an area at District attock. Majority of Chachi's are eith Afghan or Awan. whereas terminalogy of chachi is bit tricky as it resembles with a famous afghan tribe Jhaji/Zazi/zazai. Awan do claim that Jhaji/Zazi/zazai is Awan tribe. I would like if someone explain how this area got the name of Chhach . Similarly another area of District attock  is called "Chhab". 173.2.93.171 (talk) 12:40, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: chachi ot Jhaji/zazi

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message: Pashtun's recall them Andkai instead of Hindki. for common punjabi's  Pashtun's use the term as Abo-wal, this difference make sense as these people migrated to this area along with Pashtuns and they call them Andkoi with the reference of there place of migration which is wrongly confused with Hind. I  have uploaded two links ,travel guide of afghanistan and list of district in Faryab province which indicates the location of Andkoi/Andkhoy/Andkai District . Map , district information and travel information mention the place with three different speelings.
* Andkoi, the real place of Migration from Afghanistan.  
*, Travel & tour information of Afghanistan .
REGARDS
ZARRIGUL
Zarrigul (talk) 15:04, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Andkoi are not Hindki

message: Why does the previously deleted page Dhund Abbasi now redirect here? The Dhund Abbasi are a tribe of Hindkowans but this page is not about them exclusively. I hope this link/re direct will be removed thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 39.54.47.194 (talk) 16:46, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Wrong re direction

message: hi,
i am from azad kashmir. I am hindkowan
I want to tell you about the hindko language is not hazargi (a persian dialect).
Hindko is a punjabi only name is Hindko.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 42.83.86.153 (talk) 17:57, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hindkowans and Hazargi 

message: edit
Malik Mubashir Awan (talk) 11:10, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: as you have not requested a change.If you want to suggest a change, please request this in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".Please also cite reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 12:18, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 3 June 2015 

message: Hindkowan, Hindki, Andkoi - these three terms refer to people speaking dialects of Punjabi language, especially those living in predominantly Pashtu-speaking areas of northern/northwestern Pakistan and eastern/northeastern Afghanistan. More strictly, esp. when used by speakers of mainstream Punjabi, the term denotes Hindko speakers. More broadly, per pars pro toto, it denotes anyone speaking any dialect of Punjabi, esp. when used by Pashtu-speaking Afghans. I believe it would be less confusing to merge the two articles together. Thank you for comments. — kashmiri TALK 22:14, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with Hindki 

message: Please change the title of the wiki page because Hazarewal and Hindkowan are two different group of people. Hindkowan are a complete different group of people. Hazarewal/Hazarawal is a geographical/linguistic group of people native to Hazara region of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Hazarewal people live in Abottabad, Haripur, Mansehra, Kohistan, Battagram cities of Hazara and a small minority living in Karachi. Hazarewal people have origins from Pashtun, Turk, Arab and races native to the region. Main Hazarewal tribes are Awan, Kohistani, Karlal,Karlugh and Abbasi. Some Pashtun Tribes Also Reside in Hazara Division such as Jadoons , Panni's , Swati's , Tareen's , Mashwani's , Tanoli's , Tahir-kheli , Dilazak , Utmanzai , Musakhail and these Pashtun Tribes Speak Hindko . Hazarewal speak Hindko with a sizeable population fluent in Pashto. Hazarewal make up about 2% of Pakistans total population.
Muhammet Selaheldine (talk) 19:27, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: as you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 19:45, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hazarewal and Hindkowan are different people 

message: With sources mentioned, Please change the title of the wiki page because Hazarewal and Hindkowan are two different group of people. Hindkowan are a complete different group of people. Hazarewal/Hazarawal is a geographical/linguistic group of people native to Hazara region of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa. Hazarewal people live in Abottabad, Haripur, Mansehra, Kohistan, Battagram cities of Hazarahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hazara,_Pakistan and a small minority living in Karachi. Hazarewal people have origins from Pashtun, Turk, Arab and races native to the region. Main Hazarewal tribes are Jadoon, Tanoli, Swati, Awan, Kohistani, Karlal, Tareen, Karlugh, Dilazak, Utmanzai, Muhammadzai and Abbasihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khyber_Pakhtunkhwa#Demographics. Hazarewal speak Hindko with a sizeable population fluent in Pashto. Hindko is a Persian word for mountains of the Indian Subcontinent.http://kariplian.blogspot.com/2011/02/hindko-hindkou.html.
Muhammet Selaheldine (talk) 21:20, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. EvergreenFir (talk) 16:59, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hazarewal 

message: Panni is Another Pashtun  Tribe Residing in Panian, Haripur Hazara . Sohaibpanni (talk) 10:56, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. —KuyaBriBriTalk 13:10, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2017 

message: Notable Hindkowans 
Raj Kapoor 
https://www.hindustantimes.com/india/peshawar-still-remembers-bollywood-s-kapoors/story-GO9vUJ6b9q5aN3LKWCbwBO.html Shahzad010101 (talk) 05:22, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate.  Seagull123  Φ  21:21, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 August 2020 

message: There are various official languages in India at the state/territory level. The Eighth Schedule to the Indian Constitution contains a list of 22 scheduled languages. They are Hindi, Bengali, Marathi, Telugu, Tamil, Gujrati, Urdu, Kannada, Odia, Malayalam, Punjabi, Assamese, Maithali, Santali, Kashmiri, Nepali, Sindhi, Dogri, Konkani, Manipuri, Bodo, and Sanskrit. . 
Hindko is not mentioned in any Indian language or language dialect category. According to 2011 census India, the Punjabi language had a total of 33 million speakers. Out of these 33 million, the dialects under Punjabi were categorized as
a) Punjabi: 31 million speakers
b) Bagri: 1.6 million speakers
c) Bisalpuri Kahluri: 300k speakers
d) Bhateali: 24k speakers
e) 'Others': 4k speakers
5 different Punjabi dialects and none of them is categorized as Hindko. The last time Hindko was included in an Indian census was in the late 60s and Hindko speakers were counted to be around 200 people. So is it not wrong to tag this article under wiki india project when the language is not even spoken in the country?
Mar4d, Saqib, Samee, Sahara4u, Spasage
W28394 (talk) 23:06, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: User:W28394, as the article mentions, many of the Hindu and Sikh Hindko-speakers migrated to an independent India at the time of the partition. Because at that time, Hindko-speakers did not have a separate identity apart from Punjabi, they were/are classed along with speakers of Punjabi, which is the reason from the small and inaccurate figure. There is no reason to edit war of WikiProject templates. If people from that WikiProject want to help improve the article, they are welcome to do so. I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 23:16, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Anupam, I have already replied, with sources, the fact that a majority of the Indian Hindkowans were settlers from Punjab and the fact that native Hindkowans did not consider themselves Punjabi nor were they considered Punjabis in census reports pre partition (all mentioned above ) . But lets assume that they were not. The question that arises now is that with close to zero Hindkowans in India in the 21st century, does this article really warrant a WikiProject India tag based on 70 year old, now defunct, identities? Nobody is edit warring on WikiProject templates. Just a query. Regards W28394 (talk) 03:58, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Indian census clubs a lot of sub-languages/dialects under the main language. If Hindko is a sub-language of Punjabi, then it is very likely that Hindowan numbers from Punjab, India is counted as Punjabi. This happened to a lot of sub-languages/presumed sub-languages of Gujarati, Marathi, Bengali, Hindi, etc. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 15:09, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Fylindfotberserk, I completely agree and stated that in the section above. Thanks, AnupamTalk 17:36, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: There is an "Other" sub-section within Punjabi that has 4000 plus speakers . That is likely to include sub-languages liek Hindko. Also note that Hindi has 100 million plus in "Others". Census figures are always like that. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:43, 5 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Research that I have done as of late states that prior to the partition of India in 1947, this Punjabi dialect was known as "Pishori" or "Peshawari". I hope this helps. With regards, AnupamTalk 15:09, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  User:Fylindfotberserk, Anupam As mentioned earlier, a) Hindko not a dialect of Punjabi in Pakistan (where 99% of the speakers reside) but given the status of an independent language. b) Hindko has been removed from the Indian census language list in the 1960s. W28394 (talk) 14:08, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this article really within the scope of WikiProject India? 

message: Hello hazarawals 182.177.235.57 (talk) 06:24, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gh 

message: The paragraph starting "there is no generic name..." repeats in the beginning sections of the article. 
It should be removed from one of the sections. 2600:1702:3860:9B10:E571:202B:6B1:A5C6 (talk) 06:31, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeat text