Talk:List of Tasmanians

message: By god you guys really are clutching at straws now! It's all very well for that pulp tabloid we call The Mercury to glorify into sainthood some people who've done very little, but surely on Wikipedia we can keep it up to a certain standard, can't we?
i.e. Just because Tassie is a small state and we care about fairly common achievements, it doesn't mean the rest of the world cares that much. For instance, you wouldn't expect a page, "People of Bruny Island" to produce many in it, would you? But you certainly wouldn't expect them to elevate the level of those who do live on Bruny to make up the numbers.
Essie Davis--good luck to her, probably a lovely girl and her family must be very proud--but she's little more than a bit-player in a couple of recent films, and not as prominent as ANY of the people on any other "People of BLANK" pages.
Simon Ditcham delivered the newspaper from his parents' shop in Kingston to my house last week. I also once had a similar job--should I be on the list too?
Freya Stafford--imagine how long the List of notable Melburnians would be if they included everyone from these TV shows?
Can we be more careful in future? wait and see if it turns out someone is noteworthy.
PLEASE if you are going to go off on a rave like this (from an address that has been warned already) at least identify yourself to clarify most of your thoughts about the issues, and be prepared to have civil discussions rather than anonymous posts like this.  If you have issues with the way wiki is created, join in.  er... We at wiki?User:SatuSuro 08:38, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed, this is a pretty lame page. I think I actually created it to get this stuff off the main Tasmania article. I think this list either needs to go up for afd or edited down. --Jgritz 08:57, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Really lame. I vote afd. Meow meow - purr purr (talk) 14:00, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: earlier gems of widsom

message: Not wishing to disrespect their memories, but how true is it to include these guys on a list of people that Tasmania has produced?  Both were born in Europe.  I don't know how old Dombrovskis was when he arrived in Tassy, but Truchanas was 25, well past his formative years.  It may be true to say that Tasmania nurtured them, even held them to her bosom.  But "produced" them?  Maybe it's just a matter of slightly redefining the list rather than removing anybody from it.
Similarly, we might say that Russell Crowe is recognised as an Australian actor (except when he throws phones in hotel lobbies), but could we say that he is an actor that Australia has "produced"? Cheers JackofOz 04:27, 30 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Dombrovskis and Truchanas

message: I removed Paul Hudson and added Royce Hart to list of notable Tassie Aussie Rules footballers.
Paul Hudson, althuogh the son of Peter, wasn't born in Tasmania and has little to do with it. Also I would not think his career is significant enough to mention. 
The ommision of Royce Hart is dumbfounding, probably Tasmania's greatest ever footballer. He is one of the AFL/VFL greatest ever Centre Half Forwards.
Paul Williams is also a notable Tasmanian born Australian Rules player. 250+ games, All Australian selection and a premiership medal.
I will try to add more great Tasmanian footballers as I think of them.
Jabso 09:04, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Royce Hart/Paul Hudson/Paul Williams 

message: I am reinstating these two, and have left a message on jgritz's talk  page about this. They are notable writers. User:SatuSuro 03:37, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I also disagree wholeheartedly with Jgritz re editing this article down, regardless - it needs to be maintained and expanded, specially
if the face of the issues that tasmanians "get it" - either ignored, left out or whatever from mainlanders.User:SatuSuro 04:05, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  My theory was if they don't have an article, they don't deserve to be on the list. We should also change the page to "list of notable tasmanians". Christopher Koch I would include as he's had recogition internationally. Richard Davey, no, - Most of my friends have been in his plays, and as far as I can tell they've only really been produced in Hobart and Strahan, with the Strahan play's success mainly being linked to the tourism aspect. I agree with anon's above comments, that you might expect this list in the Mercury, but not on wikipedia.   --Jgritz 05:13, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I still beg to disagree - just because the article has been started today (note that others are establishing further details on Koch, not me) does not mean that there aren't other tasmanian writers  who somebody hasnt got around to doing articles on! not good enough!
keep the faith! User:SatuSuro 06:41, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christoper Koch and Richard Davey

message: Where are the politicions?    Also isn't Sols, the authour of the Snake cartoon series a Tasmanian?  What about Tasmanian war heros? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.169.149.35 (talk • contribs) 12:48, 22 April 2006
:Politicians are listed under "Arts" for some reason.  I've made a new section, and sorted them into state and federal.  I have cautiously removed a few of the state ones as they aren't really notable outside of Tasmania.  I left Jim Bacon and Paul Lennon, but maybe they should be removed as well.  Not sure if I should include Janie Dickenson - who was the youngest elected female mayor in Australia - maybe not notable enough for this list.
:Sols - of course - I have added him and will endeavour to write an article.
:War heroes - Alec Campbell was the longest surviving Gallipoli vet wasn't he?  There are probably others but I don't know of any who are well known.
: -- Chuq 04:55, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Politicians, Sols, War heroes

message: This is an interesting list - http://www.news.com.au/mercury/story/0,22884,21084203-921,00.html
Of course, The Mercury is known for over-hyping non-notable locals (they still have the occasional article on what Reggie is doing) but this list could prove a good source of people who should have articles.
It appears that many obvious names are missing - from what I can see there are only living people on the list (Jim Bacon and Alec Campbell are notably absent) -- Chuq 08:20, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mercury's top 200 list 

message: This list is for established articles - it is not a wish list - if you were involved with putting a red link in - please either write the article - or leave the link out until an article is written - thanks  SatuSuro 09:45, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The same with the Hobart article as it has many red links. What's with Hobartian's and their red links?? :P Aaroncrick  (Tassie Talk) 10:14, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Red links