Talk:Sam Sullivan

message: Removed the party affiliation from the succession box, as it does not appear in the articles on other Vancouver mayors (except Larry Campbell, where I also removed it).  If it is edited back in, it should be edited back in on all other articles on Vancouver mayors. ~~Fishhead64 06:20, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Party affiliation

message: I edited the page to day to remove much of the rather excessive detail on the controversy over the 2005 election.  I know that it is still a controversial topic, but it doesn't warrant the amount of detail that has been edited in (and out).  Given the ongoing controversy, I think it is more prudent to make a briefer allusion to its existence, and the underlying reason for its existence.  Also, I deleted much of (what in my opinion was) the rather trivial detail concerning Sullivan.  Lots of people are featured in articles, the anecdote about Sullivan and the Olympic flag was not very important, and the fact that being a sitting politician awarded the Order of Canada is no longer unique renders the detail uninteresting.  He's hardly started his term, and if brevity is not exercised, the length of the article will soon rival that of Churchill! (albeit with a lot less valuable information) Fishhead64 22:28, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with much of your removal of this information. If James Green is going to be mentioned at all in this article, then certainly it's fair to have details of the controversy included. The Olympic flag is current news, and of interesting historical note. The Order of Canada has gone to many people, but certainly not enough people to warrant removal of its noteworthiness. And finally, comparative length of article is no indication of importance. If it were, certain computer game pages would denote them being the most important thing in our society. I will not revert your edits right away, in hopes that you will give some better rationale for removing other people's work. Kickstart70 22:52, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought my rationale was adequate, and the basics of the information remain in the article (i.e., the Order of Canada, the Olympic flag).  The flag situation is historically noteworthy - practicing in the parking lot and cracking a joke are details.  What warrants their inclusion?  When do they cease to be noteworthy (if indeed they are)?  As for the election controversy, I've already seen five edits over the past month as various partisans insert and remove various allegations of which only the most devoted civic-watchers are aware.  Again, how much detail is sufficient to make the point that there is a controversy based on a specific, original charge?  I'd ask you to consider these points before reverting my edits, and also to give a chance for others to weigh in.  Thanks! Fishhead64 23:02, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't exactly call 5 edits over the course of a month on a subtopic an edit war, and for what that's worth, were they even by the same people? Myself, living in Richmond like you, am not a voter in the Vancouver election and further thought that Sullivan was probably the slightly better of two mediocre candidates...yet my contribution was not in any way positive for Sullivan. I agree about the parking lot and the lack of noteworthiness of the article written about Sullivan, anyway. My main objection is the removal of details of the controversy, which are noteworthy in many people's minds, not POV, and therefore worthy of inclusion. As it appears now, your removal of them in itself appears POV. The rationale for removing the details under that section does not seem strong enough (with one caveat...if those details were copied over to a Controversy section on a page specifically about the Vancouver Mayoral Election, 2005 I would not object); it's the blanket removal of non-POV facts that irks me. Kickstart70 23:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Kickstart70, I can see your point.  And agree with you in your assessment of the candidates, btw, only I slightly preferred Green.  I merely wanted to present the bare bones in order to avert ongoing extensions and deletions.  I will take up your suggestion, and create a separate article on the civic election when I return to Richmond from a short trip next week. Fishhead64 23:25, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit wars over the 2005 election and trivial details

message: KrigKrug has some nice pictures of Sam on his flickr account and they are tagged with the CC Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike 2.0 Deed if you want to use them. --Geedubber 06:56, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I've uploaded and replaced one here.  The NonCommercial restriction on the license isn't as free as it could be, obviously, but it's better (I think) than however the previous NPA image was licensed.  Step in the right direction.  I hope I've tagged the Image properly where I uploaded it. --Ds13 02:22, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It has just come to my attention, courtesy of User:Bobanny, that because this image has the non-commercial restriction, it may be a "deletable offense" to use it on Wikipedia.  If this is true and if anyone knows if the photographer would relicense the image for Wikipedia, please speak up.  Thanks.  Putting the previous fair-use image back is an option, though it is a copyrighted image... so the best option will be to find a free image, with no restrictions.  --Ds13 04:44, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos of Sam

message: Anchoress 10:51, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia editing controversy 

message: As a citizen of Vancouver I find it very sad and tragic that City Hall / Sam Sullivan find it nescessary to have a City hall employee edit and sanitize Sam's wiki page.
With all the tax dollars available to Sam to advertise his acheivements and accomplishments through photo-op's and glossy new bulletins Sam and the NPA should allow the wiki article to stand.
Bobbie4 01:01, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your comment is obviously inappropriate, even on a discussion page.  Have some shame and keep your political and personal opinions off an encyclopedia site. ThVa (talk) 13:40, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  City Hall / my tax dollars being wasted. 

message: There is not enough about this section. I still don't know what "Project Civil City" entails.
--Louiechefei28848888 22:30, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project Civil City 

message: I remember reading a much smaller and cleaner article a while ago that had less POV issues.  I can't find anything referring to the labour dispute that's been going on for months that's referred to as "Sam's Strike" or the "Olympic Strike" depending on who you ask.  I can't seem to write a decent wikipedia worthy paragraph on this, but I know the sources are out there to support this.  Infil00p 06:21, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How long has this article been changed by City Hall? 

message: This biography was previously nominated and placed into the portal Vancouver biographies.  On changing the format to automatic rotate, this article could be re-entered, but it has only a one sentence lead, and does not summarize the entire article. One sentence as an introduction on the portal just does not really work. Could someone familiar with the biography please edit the article, with a better lead, and then it could be on the portal again if so desired.   SriMesh | talk 00:01, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Portal:Vancouver/Biographies|Vancouver Portal Biography]]

message: I have tagged :File:Sullivanflag.jpg, which is in use in this article for deletion because it does not have a copyright tag. If a copyright tag is not added within seven days the image will be deleted. --Chris 09:30, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:Sullivanflag.jpg]] may be deleted 

message: User Bearcat removed unsourced potential vandalism that added Honolulu Hawaii as Sullivan's birthplace. This TedX marketing site says born and lived in East Vancouver: http://langara.bc.ca/tedxlangara/speaker-bios/sam-sullivan.html
Any more reliable sources out there?
Canuckle (talk) 20:45, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  birthplace 

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