Talk:Lieserl Einstein

message: How do you pronounce "Lieserl?"  68.63.215.207 (talk) 17:20, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems to be a Germanic name, so it would be "LEE-surl" with slight emphasis on the first syllable. Its closest English equivalent is the popular name Lisa (pronounced "LEE-sa" for comparison)...Engr105th (talk) 22:59, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: Im making some minor fixes to the article, just as a sort of clean-up (ex: words capitalized in the middle of sentences, that sort of thing)....Also, changing Hans Albert's occupation. He was a Hydraulic Engineer (as in hydrology), not a hydro-electric engineer...Engr105th (talk) 23:04, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some minor fixes 

message: Lieserl is actually pronounced "LEE-SER-IL"
--The Republic of Ben 10 (talk) 17:20, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That would make more more sence than the first one, i should know; I AM German in ancestry. Altenhofen (talk) 03:24, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation (Re)

message: If Lieserl had died in 1903, there would probably be a death certificate. This is never
mentioned.
But if she was adopted, there would be a cerficate too, which is also never mentioned, I just like the idea of her mysteriously vanishing off the face of the earth. It's a cool effect. 74.120.203.111 (talk) 21:54, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Certificate 

message: how come, you are calling the child "Liesrl Einstein"? her mother was not married to einstein at the time of her birth, and it is near to impossible, that einstein ever gave her his name.
and what's wrong with the name of her mother, Marić? --Ajnem (talk) 10:19, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ajnem is correct. The child was born out of wedlock, and was no longer with Mileva when she married Einstein, so her family name should be Marić. Esterson (talk) 14:42, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  liesrls name 

message: A "grand-daughter" of Albert Einstein is mentioned. She might be Evelyn, an adopted child.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.34.71 (talk) 12:34, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grand-daughter 

message: did some editing and put "lieserl" in quotation marks, because "lieserl" is not a name, that the child would have been given, but a familiar form, her parents used. also removed the serbian ciryllic, which does not seem appropriate as long as it remains under the lemma "lieserl einstein", and the categories ashkenazy and hungarian jews, because the child was probably baptised, and even if not, not jewish. i should also like to suggest, that the article be moved to "Lieserl Einstein-Marić". --Ajnem (talk) 17:18, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "lieserl" 

message: Currently the following paragraph is included in the "notes" setion: 
*A new theory - called 'The Fourth Theory' - on Lieserl's fate has been put forward for the first time by British researcher Tim Symonds in late 2009. He postulates Lieserl was indeed born with a serious mental handicap and by the time she was 21 months of age Albert Einstein and Milos Maric decided she should be killed as an act of mercy ('mercy-killing'). Although in the Austro-Hungarian Empire infanticide was against the Law, it was widely supported in the case of handicapped infants, with at most a suspended sentence
This paragraph had been questioned at WP:NORN#Einstein fourth theory?.  Apparently the editor questioning it looked for sources and did not find anything that comes close to being reliable (all he found were some reviews by someone named Symonds on Powell's  and Amazon , neither of which are reliable sources).  This "Fourth Theory" definitely needs a citation to a reliable source.  I will give people two weeks to provide one (or at least indicate that one exists).  Blueboar (talk) 13:04, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I see someone else removed it... this is fine with me. Blueboar (talk) 14:37, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have seen Symonds' detailed contentions, and his evidence-free conjecture is (at best) entirely circumstantial. There is not one single piece of genuine evidence to support the suggestion that Albert Einstein and Miloš Marić (Mileva's father) agreed to commit infanticide. Esterson (talk) 14:57, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation needed:  

message: I merged this into Einstein family, see talk page there for reasons. Herostratus (talk) 15:42, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  merged + redirected