Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Australia task force/Archive 1

message: The WikiProject football page has a great way of listing members as club preference could be important eg I'll take most care of AUFC's page - shall i implement it ? Oliyoung 02:29, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it (list me as Sydney while you're at it :-) ). AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 13:50, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion 

message: Hi, I'm a member of the Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing using these criteria, and we are looking for A-class, B-class, and Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Can you recommend any suitable articles? Please post your suggestions here. Thanks a lot! Gflores Talk 17:40, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Articles for the Wikipedia 1.0 project 

message: Should these {{Oceania-footybio-stub}.} be replaced with these {{Asia-footybio-stub}.}
for Australian players given these represent the Football Confederations rather than the geographic regions?--Hack 07:04, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since it's for a Wikiproject, perhaps we could propose an A-League specific stub? It might not succeed, but it would make it easier to organise the project. Veila 11:46, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oceania stubs 

message: Somehow I don't think that the div1 state league clubs meet the notability threshold on sporting merit. Also, I think the 2nd division state league clubs are definitely not at all sportingly notable.ßlηguγΣη | Have your say!!! 06:09, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Category:Australian football (soccer) clubs]] 

message: OK, I think that we have to get started on building on the players. Someone (not me, coz im not good with computers) has to make a infobox, eg. the one used on players of higher status, like the Christiano Ronaldo one here — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jasrocks (talk • contribs) 
:I think the plain template itself is fine for any players – we don't need a specific A-League one, since people will be interested in other clubs they've played for, or have a method to add clubs A-league players play for in the future. AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 05:33, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What I think 

message: What do people think of this as a new layout?
Note that one of the lists of A-League clubs (the row at the top, or the column at the right) will be going, of course - I'm not sure which one looks better.
User:Chuq/Sandbox/FootballAus
Note: When I try and include it like a template, it doesn't format, and when I add  and  before and after it, it is a lot thinner than it should be.
-- Chuq 06:42, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I quite like it. What do you mean by "it doesn't format"? – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 08:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It certainly covers the required fields. I like it. Normy132 12:24, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Fixed. It was because of the "noinclude" tags you had around the table start and ends. When you include it as a template, it doesn't include those bits and thus doesn't know it's a table, so just puts all that rubbish there. The  standardises the width to 47em, so squashes it up. – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 01:02, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that was pretty obvious in hindsight :)  Thanks for that - anyone have opinion on whether the A-League clubs should be across the top or down the side? -- Chuq 02:39, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Sorry to ask a pretty daft question, but where is it going to be used? ⁂veila# 10:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's okay. It will be used at the bottom of pages about football in Australia. It's basically just a box to show where to find more information on a directly related topic, if that makes sense. Normy132 10:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've re-arranged the table a little to make it thinner, I think it is worthy of adding to articles now - again unless there are any other comments/suggestions? -- Chuq 07:17, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Football in Australia box 

message: I have followed the lead of the 2006 AFL season article, and I have updated the A-League 2005-06 article with a summary of round 1 as a test - check it out at A-League 2005-06#Home and away season.
This has included the creation of the following templates:
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The first eight are shortcuts for listing the teams (may be useful in other articles as well).  The last allows me to write the "rows" of the table with minimum effort and a standard layout.  If people like it, I will complete the rest of the season in this manner. -- Chuq 15:40, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Round summary box 

message: I have used/modified some existing tournament templates on A-League 2005-06 for the Club championship qualifier, the Pre-season cup, and the finals series.   The only one which is new is  which has had minor additions to allow for the 2 legged semi-finals. -- Chuq 22:35, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like it, good work! – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 12:45, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tournament tables 

message: Change to "players project", list all past and present players on the same page
:There are a couple of ways this could be done, they could be ordered by the season in which they made their debut (thus the 2005–06 list would stay the same and new players would be added on the same page to a 2006–07 list) or ordered by the last season they played in the league (so all current players will be on one list, former players on the same page, ordered 'chronologically'). The second way would be harder to maintain, but more useful if people are looking only to update current players. (Please indicate which system you support).
*  Support – The second option. Maybe when all players from a season are completed that list could be archived to save clutter. – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 08:23, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal 2

message: :The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a proposal that was not implemented by members of the general community at Wikipedia:Barnstar and award proposals/New Proposals. Please do not modify it.
A barnstar for your WikiProject has been proposed here by Daniel.Bryant. Would you please take your time to post your opinions?--Ed 13:40, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barnstar 

message: If anyone has some time the John O'Neill (sport administrator) page really needs fixing.  I will be working on it over the weekend but could use some help Tancred 11:20, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've done some formatting, reference formatting, categorising and cleanup - there's still some items that sound slightly POV though. -- Chuq 16:14, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  John O'Neill 

message: There doesn't seem to be much standarisation on the team names.  The actual articles themselves are at:
*Queensland Roar FC
*Newcastle United Jets
*Central Coast Mariners FC
*Sydney FC
*New Zealand Knights FC
*Melbourne Victory
*Adelaide United FC
*Perth Glory F.C.
I personally use the names minus the "FC" (except for Sydney), and I use "Newcastle United Jets" for Newcastle (as opposed to "Newcastle Jets").  When abbreviations are used, I use: QR, NUJ, CCM, SFC, NZK, MV, AU and PG.  Does anyone have any other preferences for articles names and abbreviation names? -- Chuq 13:48, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I will always use Newcastle Jets, Central Coast Mariners, Queensland Roar, Sydney FC, New Zealand Knights, Melbourne Victory, Adelaide United and Perth Glory. Every other team has their loaction then a distinguishing factor (except for Sydney FC, who don't have a mascot, and instead use FC), so I don't see why Newcastle should be called Newcastle United Jets instead of Newcastle Jets. Also, why aren't Adelaide United called Adelaide United Reds? I think we should make the NJ drop the United in their usage on pages, except for their own page (where the United takes the spot of the FC in other teams). Daniel.Bryant 03:40, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Firstly, all of the teams should have "FC" as the name of their page, whether it is used in general writing is probably optional apart from SFC. Secondly, Newcastle are called the Newcastle United Jets and I don't see what the problem with having the "United" there is... And no, "The Reds" is just a nickname for Adelaide, much like Liverpool F.C.. – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 03:50, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 600px Daniel.Bryant 07:22, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I take it you've seen their logo, and read the second paragraph of our article on them? Not every team has to follow the same <Location> <"Mascot"> pattern... (ps what happened to the edit section links on this page?) – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 08:18, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Thought I would point out that WikiProject Football is currently having this discussion as well - see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football#F.C. or FC?.  -- Chuq 04:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Team article names 

message: Has the orange formatting on this page done something to the section breaks?  It doesn't appear to allow editing by section, or linking to the headings directly? -- Chuq 04:21, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm working on fixing it. Daniel.Bryant 11:08, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Daniel.Bryant 11:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section breaks 

message: Something is going on with the PG Squad template. For example, see Leo Bertos, and note the stub position. It's happening with every PG article with the stub tag. Can someone fix it please? Daniel.Bryant 11:08, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Perth Glory FC Squad Template 

message: As requested, I've updated the 2005-06 project up to just the general player project. All current squad members are listed in 2006–07, and as you can see there is a load of stubs everywhere, hopefully we can get stuck in to some of it. I think I made all the necessary changes/page moves - there may be a few loose ends so just fix them if you see them. Cheers. – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 12:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Player project updated 

message: Hi guys,
Just a suggestion - now the season has started, when updating game details, don't forget to add crowd details to 2006 Australian football code crowds - both updating the average for the home team (first, smaller table) and adding the game to the list (the second, very large table) -- Chuq 23:01, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the note Chuq. Daniel.Bryant 03:49, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crowd figures 

message: :The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a proposal that was implemented. Please do not modify it.
Proposal:Oh dear.. Sorry Daniel, I have to say .. I think the colours/boxes should go :-/  They look bad and don't add any function to the tables - it just clutters them up.Proposed by Chuq 12:07, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Upon request, I removed them, and hence changed the master template for the tables. If you wanted to see what they looked like, an example is Template:A-LeagueTableHome CCM and Template:A-LeagueTableAway CCM. The just change the letters to get different teams. The idea of home and away templates was to always have the boxes running down the inside. If you think you have improved on them, post here and we'll have a look if they're worthy of inclusion. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 12:33, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes to templates 

message: :The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a proposal that was implemented. Please do not modify it.
Proposal:I am proposing this move, to conform with every other team in the A-League (excluding Melbourne Victory, which I'm contemplating moving to Melbourne Victory FC and Newcastle United Jets, which is their official name). The F.C. is ugly, screws up the ends of sentences (eg: ...and Perth Glory F.C..) and is not consistant with other A-League articles, and the concensus which is firm at our "Mother-project", Wikiproject Football that this should occur. Any suggestions/comments are welcome.Proposed by Daniel.Bryant at 09:17, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Closed @ 11:40, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Perth Glory F.C.]] -> [[Perth Glory FC]] 

message: Wow, some breaking news here. I think a paragraph has to be added to Sydney FC, A-League 2005-06 and maybe even A-League 2006-07 as well. Daniel.Bryant 06:11, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: External source 1, 2 (NZ) and 3. Should we make a separate article for this incident, as it is very large, and has at least 4 references. Daniel.Bryant 06:13, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hahaha settle down... as a Sydney fan of course I will defend them but this fine is diddly-squat. It deserves perhaps a sentence in each article. As the first "external source" you provided explains, Sydney did not breach the salary cap, they paid players money for tasks they were unable to complete because they did not have as much spare time as originally scheduled. And Sydney were the ones who reported it to the league anyway, wondering what the situation was. – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 06:23, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. Daniel.Bryant 06:45, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  News: 

message: :The following discussion is preserved as an archive of a proposal that was implemented. Please do not modify it.
Proposal:I would like to discuss again the matter of the season templates. My opinion is that as long as only two seasons have been played, the templates are not necessary. So either the links to the current and previous season go in the See also section, or the templates have only two link. Personally, I prefer the first solution, but I would be happy even with the second.Proposed by 217.26.87.7 13:55, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I've decided to accept your proposal (the second one). I will remove the links for seasons beyond 2006-07, but once this season is finished (ie. the day of the Grand Final), I will re-add the link to the upcoming season so they can be created over the off-season. Daniel.Bryant 06:14, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SeasonTemplate - second take 

message: Can someone who knows what they're doing with the "strip" fucntion in the team's userboxes please update the Central Coast Mariners FC away strip - it can be seen here, at the bottom of the page. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 06:55, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  CCM A-League strip 

message: I can sort of understand having them during the off-season. But now that we're two rounds into the season, I honestly don't see the point. I thought Wikipedia wasn't a news service.... surely the squad list adequately outlines who is in each team. Is it time that we remove the transfer section? (I'm asking instead of just going ahead and doing it because it was a part of the whole project thing) -[dM] 13:02, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, please do not remove them, until we have a 2006-07 season page for every team. I'm working on this as an editing project, and I should have all of the season pages done by the end of November at the latest. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant 07:53, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK, fair enough. That's why I put it here first. -[dM] 12:05, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No problems. Thanks for putting it here first :D Daniel.Bryant 06:27, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transfers in team articles 

message: ===Spiel===
In starting this project, one thing I didn't realise at the time was the relatively poor coverage of football in Australia before/outside the A-League. User:Blackmissionary mentioned a while ago that it would be good if WP:A-L was to include the NSL, and I would like to expand this idea to the whole of football in Australia. Whilst the same aim would be achieved by simply starting a new project, I think that ultimately a large proportion of people who would contribute to a new project would be the same as the current members of WP:A-L. It would also save the hassle of spreading discussion that apply to both projects so that all members could have their say. Everything currently included in WP:A-L would be included in the new project, and those members who wish to continue focusing solely on A-League articles could easily do so. Please note that the "Australia" reference is 100% not against any New Zealand Knights, Football Kingz, etc information being involved in the project – but tacking "and some New Zealand stuff" on the end of the project name would be a bit messy. I have created a more formal proposed project page here, and if the members here choose to support this idea, I will add it to the project proposals list. – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 08:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[User:Albinomonkey/WikiProject Football (soccer) in Australia|Proposal to expand WikiProject A-League]] 

message: In starting this project, one thing I didn't realise at the time was the relatively poor coverage of football in Australia before/outside the A-League. User:Blackmissionary mentioned a while ago that it would be good if WP:A-L was to include the NSL, and I would like to expand this idea to the whole of football in Australia. Whilst the same aim would be achieved by simply starting a new project, I think that ultimately a large proportion of people who would contribute to a new project would be the same as the current members of WP:A-L. It would also save the hassle of spreading discussion that apply to both projects so that all members could have their say. Everything currently included in WP:A-L would be included in the new project, and those members who wish to continue focusing solely on A-League articles could easily do so. Please note that the "Australia" reference is 100% not against any New Zealand Knights, Football Kingz, etc information being involved in the project – but tacking "and some New Zealand stuff" on the end of the project name would be a bit messy. I have created a more formal proposed project page here, and if the members here choose to support this idea, I will add it to the project proposals list. – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 08:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spiel

message: ====Support====
#  – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 08:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Poll

message: #  – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 08:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Support

message: * Love the picture! Daniel.Bryant 01:16, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: Seems a name is not immediately obvious, so just sign under which one you think is best (add another if you wish; add your name to more than one if you want). Give it about a week.
====WikiProject Football (soccer) in Australia====
# – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 04:02, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name choice

message: # – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 04:02, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Football (soccer) in Australia

message: # Kingutd 05:27, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Australian football (soccer)

message: #--cj | talk 08:54, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Australian soccer

message: :::Glad to see the templates are popular :)  The colours look great too.  Are people OK with me deleting  and so on, since they aren't in use anymore? -- Chuq 23:26, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. Consider them tagged as , as I'm the creater and sole editor of them :D. For ease of deletion, the links down the side of User:Daniel.Bryant/A-LeagueSeasonTemplate are to the templates. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 05:50, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I made sure there were no transclusions, and had them deleted. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 08:16, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Delete old templates?

message: I've made the first steps on the expansion to WP:Football in Aus, the new project page is linked above. I'm currently working on the assessment and improving the A-League player project, it would be great if anyone could help with the following:
* Populating the related pages list (nb generally don't list redirect pages - the idea of the list is to watch related changes to actual articles)
* Creating a to-do list, and adding a few tasks to the open tasks template.
* Creating a templates list of all templates related to the project.
* Creating an awards list of all awards related to the project.
* Find some way of archiving WikiProject A-League within the new project. See this for a list of this project's subpages (ignore the ones related to the player project... I'm redoing it a bit).
* Create redirects from here to the new project, also go through what links here and make relevant changes.
* Generally tidy up the new main page.
* Create a userbox for participants?
* Anything else you can think of...
It's a long list at the moment, any help or ideas would be much appreciated. Cheers – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 06:50, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Football (soccer) in Australia]] 

message: I think people should attempt to publicise the project on some forums and the like. I've already done The World Game Forum and the Victory forum. Blackmissionary 22:38, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Publicity 

message: I'm about 90% sure I got them all right, however a number of the coaches had me diving around for refs, or in one case guessing. Anyways, can someone just double-check that all the nationalities are right for the captains and coaches in the following, please:-
Cheers, Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 05:52, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: they're all right... which one did you guess? – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 10:58, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confirmation of nationalities 

message: I quickly did up a userbox for this project, at User:Blackmissionary/FSIA. If people like it, someone more knowledgable can clean it up a little and add a category or whatever. Or If someone can make a better one, that'd be good too. Blackmissionary 23:10, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Userbox 

message: I've been meaning to suggest that the season articles be renamed to take the capital "S" out of season.  I just hadn't got round to it because it wasn't that urgent :P  Now that I've actually got around to it, are there any other changes to the naming format that people want to suggest? -- Chuq 05:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Move and leave redir, then fix all the templates. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 21:11, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I'm about to start moving these now.  (5 months should be enough warning :) ) -- Chuq (talk) 00:33, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

text: All done.  I've fixed up the links in the team templates.  I noticed that some need updating (eg. "Queensland Roar is currently playing in the 2006-07 A-League season..") and some cleanup, but I'll try to do these later today if I get a chance! -- Chuq (talk) 01:39, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season article naming 

message: Does anyone know if this changes by User:155.143.126.14 are legit or not?  Is there a good, updated external source we can check them against?-- Chuq 05:41, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anon user changing details 

message: In pages such as John Kosmina and Richie Alagich the NSL and A League spent years spent at Adelaide United are separated, and i was wondering if this was part of a style guide, or just a someone's personal whim? I can't see why personally, seeing as it's the same team. Any objections if i fix these up? Blackmissionary 08:23, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They are the same club. Merge, I reckon. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 08:32, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

text: How are they different organisations? Is this the Matt Carroll-esque 'every team is 2 years old' theory, or something else? Blackmissionary 08:51, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Fair enough, i won't alter the relevant sections until further info comes up, however my preference is to treat them as the same club. Blackmissionary 03:30, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Agreed. Although slightly different, it'd be like considering two organisations "different" because they were bought out by someone else. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 08:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adelaide United infobox question 

message: This page currently redirects to the Adelaide 36ers page. There was an AFD where the consensus was that it links to the 36ers. Is there something we can do as the Adelaide Sharks as an NSL team are far more notable than a potential name for a basketball team. --Hack 03:11, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've deleted the redirect - replacing bodgy redirects with more notable articles really isn't much of an issue. Feel free to write a proper article. Rebecca 03:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm doing the article now. It'll be a basic thing at first, just for a presence at least, and to add relevant redirects. Blackmissionary 03:40, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Article is at West Adelaide Soccer Club. Redirects from West Adelaide Hellas, Adelaide Sharks and West Adelaide SC are online, (thanks to Hack for the last one, even though it was created as an ultra stub) and hopefully i can get round to cleaning it up a little in the not too distant future. Blackmissionary 04:27, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am trying to find out if there is some sort of link between the Sharks and Adelaide Olympic. Also the Olympic website suggests they were formed 2000 but wikipedia says 1978. A touch confusing.--Hack 06:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm, it appears from this Ozfootball page that they were founded in 1978 (and other articles have them playing in the SA leagues in the 1990's at least from a quick glance), so i would say from the info at hand, and from some anecdotal evidence, that ex-West Adelaide fans, following the demise of their club, jumped on the Olympic bandwagon, and there or may not have been a formal merger. We'll have to keep looking for a little while longer for the answer. Blackmissionary 06:33, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Adelaide Sharks]] 

message: ...is the current football (soccer) collab. of the week. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 05:43, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fantastic - I think we should use this opportunity to get it 100% and then use its format as a basis for the other A-League teams. -- Chuq 11:54, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

text: A grand total of 0. I did the referencing, got some pictures with permission (that took all week), and rearranged some stuff. I must say, it was a giant flop. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 03:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Central Coast Mariners FC]]... 

message: Have a look at Football (soccer) in Victoria, you will see I have created another template for Victoria at   This includes links to FFV, VPL (& teams) and VSLD1 (& teams).  Note it doesn't include Melbourne Victory as (AFAIK) MV doesn't come under FFV at all.  If people like it I can do similar things for other states. -- Chuq 11:54, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More templates 

message: I've done a substantial rewrite of the NSL article's history section. All interested parties are invited to make commments, suggestions etc. on that article's talk page, cheers Blackmissionary 00:37, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good stuff. "One Fantastic Goal" is the only book that covers NSL history that I own at the moment, but I hope to find a few things in the near future. This article should be one of our top priorities IMO. – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 13:06, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[National Soccer League]] history section rewrite 

message: Given the Socceroos' large part in this article (v Japan; v Croatia; v Italy all mentioned), I feel that it call fall under this Wikiproject's scope. Thoughts? Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 05:34, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Addendum: v Brazil also has a section. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 05:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed, definetily part this project's scope. Blackmissionary 06:07, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[2006 FIFA World Cup controversies]] 

message: Are supporters groups worthy of an article in their own right? It seems that most football 'ultra' groups do not have their own page. This page is up for deletion so I was wondering what others thought about it... Hack 06:20, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. Merge them into the #Supporters section of the team's article, and redirect. Similar thing happened with the Marinators and the CCMFC article. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 06:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seconded Blackmissionary 08:41, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Blue and white brigade]] and [[Ultras#Australia|Australian Ultras]] 

message: Can someone run thru and check the contribs from this IP (Special:Contributions/144.132.5.112) - as I noted on User talk:144.132.5.112, nationalities aren't determined from where a player was born. I've reverted the change of Wayne O'Sullivan (an Irish international) to being a Cypriot, and I'd like someone to run thru and check the others - the edits from the 15th and 17th of this month specifically. Cheers, Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 11:06, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If they have represented a country, then that country is their nationality. If they haven't, it's based on their passport ownership and heritage, which isn't all that easy to work out sometimes. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 09:24, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On the basis of passport ownership Adrian Caceres, for example, would be Australian, English and Argentine. Also here's a whole bunch of Brazilian and Argentine players that have European passports to allow them to play in Europe. But in the end I agree that your criteria would make most sense... Hack 10:28, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Footballer nationalities 

message: The FFA has released a list of every player to appear for the senior mens' national team (there's 499 at the moment). Obviously there is not going to be a huge amount of info out there for a lot of the players, but there are a few notable names which are red links or stubs at the moment, so if you are looking for something to do, have a browse through this list and see if there are any you want to have a crack at. I hope to put all the names on the related pages list in the near future so we can see what's missing. Cheers. – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 13:11, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  499 national team caps 

message: I would like to invite all interested editors to have a read of Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Football in Australia) and offer improvements or suggestions on the talk page.  Please do not comment about it on this page - I am hoping to centralise discussion in one place! -- Chuq 10:31, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Football in Australia - naming conventions 

message: Beginning cross-post.
:See Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team#Stablepedia. If you wish to comment, please comment there. ★MESSEDROCKER★ 02:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stablepedia 

message: Going on from the discussion half way up the page, I have created state focused templates such as  and :
The templates are designed to be hierarchical - top-most one (usually ) is the most general, the bottom one (usually the club or state template) being the most specific.  I've noticed  ...
... has been moved to the bottom of the templates on some articles, probably because it is big, bulky, and mostly not relevant to the state article (full of other states' governing bodies and leagues) - which is a fair reason.  I suggest that once the other individual state templates are created, we can replace the  template with something smaller such as:
.. and put it back above the state-specific template.  Make sense? -- Chuq 02:17, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems fine to me. Daniel.Bryant [ T · C ] 02:37, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More on templates.. 

message: For perusal: 
*I'll wait until some season articles are actually written before adding them all
*I've only listed teams from the final season
*Since the AU, PG, NUJ and FK links point to the A-League AU, PG, NUJ and NZK articles; we should make sure those articles include details of the NSL era. 
*I suggest the red-linked articles are actually written before we use the template anywhere.
-- Chuq 03:41, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good work. Some questions though. Is the listing of teams only for the last season for demonstration purposes? For the season articles, where in the A-League version match reports are linked to official sites, how are we going to do the same thing? Just link to OzFootball? Agree with your final point though, but are you talking only about the records and list of champions, or everything including clubs not done yet? Blackmissionary 05:53, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm opening up suggestions to others on how we include the other teams - the box would be huge if we listed them all!  I guess OzFootball is the closest to an official source that we have at the moment.  IMO only the records, champions, and maybe the last 2-3 seasons should be written before implementing the template (or we can comment out those rows until they exist.) -- Chuq 06:29, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Hmm, fitting in all the teams neatly would be in the realms of the periodic table, not sure how to do it! But for list of champions, do we need a separate page? The A-League article has a link which leads to a section within the NSL article, and for what it's worth, i think that's good enough. Blackmissionary 09:35, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NSL template 

message: These clubs never played in Australian national or state leagues, so how we do categorise in them in the project's related pages section? Blackmissionary 04:23, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: also Australian Cup. Blackmissionary 08:50, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Perth Kangaroos]] and [[Darwin Cubs]] 

message: I need some help from any experienced wikipedians here, as i'm not sure how to go about this. The Jack Reilly page has recently had another article inserted within it (on an american artist of the same name). Attempts to get the responsible editor to make a new, seperate page have failed (i  think they are new, and haven't looked at the article talk page, or just ignored it), so could someone who knows how to sort this stuff out do just that? Blackmissionary 08:03, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I got this one covered. Normy132 08:56, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that. I think i've got most of the links sorted/fixed as well. Blackmissionary 03:39, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Jack Reilly]] article 

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 19:23, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: Somebody has deleted the supporters section of the Perth Glory page. I intended restoring but was just hoping to see what others thought of this first. It is being suggested that the fan groups are not notable. If this was some sort of consensus we should then be deleting reference in the Melbourne Victory page to such non-notable fans as the BWB and the Cove from the Sydney FC page.Hack 04:26, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In line with this discussion i think it's ok to restore it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Blackmissionary (talk • contribs) 09:23, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also the WP:Football club MOS lists the Supporters section in it - though Perth's (and other A-League ones) could do with a bit of a cleanup IMO. – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 12:20, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Supporters Groups of Perth Glory 

message: Hey. I was just looking at this article and it says that there will be eight clubs in the competition for the season. If the New Zealand Knights have been discarded from the competition, shouldn't the number be seven clubs or an undecided number of clubs? Normy132 10:37, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As it is, there are still eight licenses and it appears quite likely that another New Zealand-based franchise will replace the Knights (). I'd leave it at eight until they confirm that it won't be. – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 11:49, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[A-League 2007-08]] 

message: At the moment, there are two articles about this player. As I understand it (I'm no expert), Chinese and Korean names, though spoken as "<Given name> <Surname>" (Hyuk-Su Seo, Ji-Sung Park, Shengqing Qu) are supposed to be written "<Surname> <Given name>". In the A-League we have articles on Gao Leilei (<Surname> <Given name>), Zhang Yuning (<Sn> <Gn>), Qu Shengqing (<Sn> <Gn>), Zhang Xiaobin (<Sn> <Gn>), Tae-Yong Shin (<Gn> <Sn>) and then both versions for the Seo article. Unless anyone has any objections, when I get the chance I'll merge/redirect the Shin and Seo articles to their 'proper' places; just thought I'd mention this for the future.  or  should also be placed at the top of the relevant articles. For the recently-recruited Knights player, I think his surname is Li and given name Yan, but I'm not completely sure (there is no article on him yet). – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 12:08, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Hyuk-Su Seo]] / [[Seo Hyuk-Su]] 

message: Just a couple of things to bring to people's attention. People should take care with how they link to Peter Wilson's article as Peter Wilson (footballer) leads to an aussie rules player, whereas Peter Wilson (Australian soccer) is the correct one. Also i have created a redirect for Olyroos, use it or ignore it at your pleasure. Hooray for me. Blackmissionary 05:47, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miscellaneous 

message: New articles have been created for Football (soccer) in the Australian Capital Territory and Canberra City SC and a major expansion of Canberra Cosmos has been done - ready for review and inputs.  Tomperc 04:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canberra football 

message: i have created the article Football (soccer) in New South Wales single-handely from scratch so i was looking for some reviews, input, critisicm, etc. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Santiago26 (talk • contribs) 10:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey sorry it's taken so long for someone to reply, but firstly I'd say thanks a heap for creating this article to start with; it was definitely a big gap missing in the project. I have a couple of suggestions: at the moment, the article is made up largely of small lists of competitions and clubs etc. It would be nice if this was changed more into sentence form describing the way the hierarchies work. Secondly, I think a history section is a must. The first organised match of football in Australia was played in Sydney, and many clubs from the Hunter/Newcastle region are some of the oldest in Australia. Finally, an overview of participation would be great. I can't find it at the moment, but there was a government study a few years ago with full stats for a whole heap of sports, and there is also the (annual?) Sweeney sports report which looks into interest/participation etc. – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 13:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just wanted to agree with Albinomonkey - thanks for that!  Do you know much about Northern NSW Soccer / Northern NSW Football Federation?  That is one of the more confusing things to me - why there are two federations for the state.  IMO this shuold be explained in the article as well! -- Chuq 12:24, 2 March 2007 (UTC)

text: There is already an article Northern New South Wales Football.  I think Football (soccer) in New South Wales should be about exactly that - all football activities over the whole state, both NNSWF and SNSW.  By the way, I have created a new template:
.. for all NSW related football articles. -- Chuq 04:11, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Football in NSW 

message: I'd appreciate it if people could give me their opinions on which of these maps look best? User:Chuq/Sandbox/Sports_maps -- Chuq 00:06, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I like II. Daniel Bryant 06:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I like I. One problem New Zealand team is in Wellington now.Boltonfan22 06:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The current one in use at A-League#Clubs is kind of a combination of those two - and the Wellington one isn't a problem, as the coloured icons can be relocated by changing co-ordinates. -- Chuq 09:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Team locator map 

message: As a FYI given we don't have a table like WP:WPF listing going-ons with articles, the Central Coast Mariners FC article is currently a featured candidate. You can view the current status of the nomination, and leave comments, at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Central Coast Mariners FC. Cheers, Daniel Bryant 06:52, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Promoted! :) Daniel Bryant 22:02, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As you can see from my recent contribs, I haven't had much time to work on things recently but I've been lurking and had to extend my congratulations to Daniel and everyone else who worked on this article. Hopefully it is the first of many. Well in. – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 08:32, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Congratulations on achieving Featured Article Status. Blackmissionary 09:30, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  
FAC
 FSIA's first ever FA! 

message: A proposal to reorganise all football related projects has been made here. Input from members of this project is wanted. – Elisson • T • C • 20:22, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creation of WikiProject Football task forces 

message: I can't seem to be able to find anything on the former National Youth League. Should this be a discrete article or part of the NSL page?--Hack 03:32, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Tough one. Probably a separate article, but it is a very hard topic to find info on i think. Even OzFootball doesn't seem to have much on it. Blackmissionary 05:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  National Youth League 

message: Yes this seems to be a never ending project.. not because it takes a long time, but because I'm lazy ..
There are now "state" templates for Tas, Vic, NSW and Qld (named  and so on).  Rather than modify all the team pages straight away, I have modified , , , ,  and  to include the "AUS fb" style templates.  This way they all look like the new format but without a lot of work!  As you work on the pages for other reasons, please subst the templates (the six ones listed above, that is - not the "AUS fb" ones!)  As an example I have done the BPL and BD1 ones.  I will do the SA and WA ones next, but I'm not guaranteeing they will be done any time soon!
Also just a note - Football (soccer) in Queensland appears to redirect to Football Queensland.  Someone knowledgeable may want to write a separate article! -- Chuq (talk) 13:42, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of them do - as navigational templates they should link to every article we have about a governing body, league or club based in that particular state.  Anything that isn't notable enough for an article doesn't have a link, and therefore shouldn't need to be in the template. -- Chuq (talk) 05:24, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More on templates 

message: I've just got this userbox created for this WikiProject.
Mattythewhite 19:11, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Userbox 

message: Does this need to be here? Surely it isn't necessary... --Hack 02:10, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Australia international footballers 

message: This team does not seem to compete at the hightest amateur level of competition (that would be the Olympic team) or professionally.
Is there some other inclusion criteria I should be looking at before I take this article to AfD?
Thanks,
Garrie 04:52, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a national team.  They compete at the highest international level for women's under-20 football teams (i.e. FIFA U-20 Women's World Championship).   I can't even begin to imagine why you would think it would be deletion worthy! -- Chuq (talk) 07:16, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Australia women's national under-20 football team]] 

message: I decided to merge the squad template into the main CCM template, and have this displayed on player pages who are currently in the squad. Thoughts? Daniel Bryant 04:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks great!  By displaying on all player pages, you mean just the fb A-League CCM template, not the fb general, fb A-League etc, templates?  If so, sounds perfect.  (Naturally we should aim to do the same for the other clubs) -- Chuq (talk) 05:46, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, current players pages get  and that's it. I'll do the swapover tomorrow if no objections are raised. Daniel Bryant 06:17, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course, current players only.  Otherwise Damian Mori would be more template than article! -- Chuq (talk) 06:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah...on that note, Mori has enough info on him to possibly become a pretty decent article *adds to list* Daniel Bryant 06:39, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

text: All Sydney FC now done with Template:AUS fb A-League SFC (from Template:Sydney FC squad) - Tomperc 09:23, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:AUS fb A-League CCM]] 

message: Wikipedia:Featured list candidates/List of Queensland Roar FC players, for . If anyone has any appropriate pictures (players, groups of players etc.), can they please upload them? Cheers, Daniel 00:47, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another FLC 

message: Hi, I rebuilt http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Farina am about to request for feedback. If anyone has a picture of him (not a picture from a website, but something they have permission to use, even a picture they took themselves), it would add to the article. Thank you. I belive a section on his international playing career should be added, but I don't really have any stats on that.Macktheknifeau 16:29, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can i just say well done on an awesome job on one of our most important articles! As for your question, the only stats site is i know of is ozfootball, but i could ask some people i know for particular stats if you need them, just ask and i'll see what i can do. Blackmissionary 23:51, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frank Farina 

message: I have just noticed that the category "Australian football (soccer) players" has been renamed to "Australian soccer players" is the usual silly wikipedia way.  The debate (or total lack of debate) is here.  I cannot see any of the football editors commenting there.  I strongly feel this renaming should be reversed.  Anyone know how to do this?Tancred 20:59, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No idea how to change the decision. It's an absolute disgrace. Seems like almost no-one relevant (ie, people working on related articles) even knew it was up for discussion. Blackmissionary 23:06, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Further to that, I have left a message on The Wub's Talk Page, urging  reopening of the discussion. It also appears that we are not alone in having a category changed without relevant editors knowing about it by this admin. Blackmissionary 23:22, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Disgraceful to say the very least. This should be reversed posthaste, given the amount of trouble we've gone to in the past to even get people to finally accept (or at least live with) the "football (soccer)" thing. A notice should've been placed here - the project banner is on the talk page and I can scarcely believe it could have gone unnoticed by the nominator. – AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 00:48, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category renaming 

message: After contacting User:Shalom about this I received a prompt reply. 
Response to CFD concern
I'm sorry that I failed to get the word out regarding the CFD.  I don't do many CFDs, so I'm not familiar with the need to tell everyone.  My main line of work is AFD, where this is generally not necessary because users who care about an article will usually see it on their watchlist.
I have no opinion on the debate anymore.  Feel free to decide things without me.  Best regards. Shalom Hello 05:35, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I have started a renaming case here Tancred 10:54, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  After some administrative debate there is another renaming case. Wikipedia:Categories_for_discussion/Log/2007_June_27#Category:Australian_soccer_players. Please join in and comment.Tancred 08:53, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update on category renaming 

message: I have been looking around, and I saw the National Rugby League season 2007 page and the match tables they have there, I think they look really nice and look better than the current A-League ones. So I modified the table, and brought it here to be dicussed. I hope you all like it, I know the original one is a bit more compact, but I believe this other one is more bright and presents the information nicely, it also includes the clubs logo. Please leave your comments and suggestions below. - Allied45 11:27, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree - I think the rugby tables look nicer and more presentable than the present soccer ones. I'd think about using them for a few other sports as well. Rebecca 11:38, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Also agree, new table would brighten up the article.  Is there a way to avoid Knights and Mariners wrapping to the next line?  - Tomperc 07:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed New Match Tables 

message: Is there a consensus on what match info belongs in each season article? I'd taken that the League article shows score and crowd for each match in table like above, and further details (scorers, ref, cards, etc) was outlined in each club article (like A-League 2006-07 and Sydney FC season 2006-07).  The current season articles seem to be moving in different directions.  - Tomperc 07:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  League v Club Season articles 

message: Hi I've noticed that a lot of players have their profiles with the imperial weights and measurements first. As a metirc country the metric system should be first and the imperial system in brackets. I've started re-editing them. Anyone want to help me? 60.230.78.50 07:10, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been progressively replacing with the height template that shows met(imp) or imp(met) depending on user prefs.  I've also noticed a number of other player articles incorrectly use a comma decimal separator instead of decimal point. - Tomperc 00:14, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: that's very odd... in en.wp surely it should always be a "."? Dibo T | C 00:46, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metric system first 

message: Guys, just after some input here - what do you think the criterion for "notable players" from A-League clubs should be? There is alot of debate over on the Victory article over whether Kristian Sarkies should be in our notable players section... could develop into something of an editing war. Some consider him to be notable having a Socceroos Cap, being and Olyroo and having scored a goal in the Grand Final win.  Others suggest that he hasn't really achieved very little so far, and so inst notable at all.   Thoughts?
--ElZilcho 04:40, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Tough one, even harder perhaps for newer entities like the A League clubs who have yet to produce major players themselves (ie Sydney United/George Cross) or have long serving players (ie, an Alex Tobin), all of which will come in time. Back to the issue at hand though, I don't think that Sarkies himself has achieved enough yet either here, overseas, or internationally to be classified as notable, unlike say from the same side, Archie Thompson or in particular Kevin Muscat. That's from a non-biased South Melbourne fan's point of view, with no emotional connection to Kristian or anyone else. Blackmissionary 05:04, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say a 'notable' player would have at least a few full internationals (say minimum 5) and made some contribution to the club such as making many appearances or promoting the club/league (ie guest player).  Sarkies' 7 minutes as a full Socceroo doesn't really put him into this category (yet).  - Tomperc 06:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: At the present, I used "represented country in full international" as the line in CCMFC. Daniel→♦ 11:03, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  WP:BIO states - Competitors who have played in a fully professional league, or a competition of equivalent standing in a non-league sport such as swimming or tennis. A-League is fully professional, anyone who plays in it is notable and can deserve their own article, but "notable" players inside the club itself would be captains, vice captains, anyone who has any Australian caps against proper opponents, and finally anyone who is a significant part of the team the "star players" if you will. Macktheknifeau 10:28, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Players 

message: I have proposed to move the Newcastle United Jets page. See Talk:Newcastle United Jets#Requested move. All input appreciated. Cheers, Daniel 11:04, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Significant [[Wikipedia:Requested moves|requested move]] - Newcastle Jets 

message: Permission to sound self-important and prattle on a bit... :) As we all know, Wikipedia's greatest virtue and vice is its democratic nature. It lets amatuers and professionals a like have a go at stroing and presenting the worlds knowldege. I have recently gained full access to update the far less democratic but still very important OzFootball archives. This means that my time here, already limited by my uni studies, is now further stymied. I'll still be around doing minor stuff, and reverting vandalism, but it appears my time as a major editor here is over for the forseeable future. Without a year and half spent on Wikipedia, honing my skill, working with and alongside people, and creating content that i could be truly be proud of (and in turn, hoepfully inspiring others to do the same) i doubt that i would have bothered applying for what appeared to be a closed shop. Thank you to all the wonderful people working on this project, you all do a tremendous job, and in particular to AlbinoMonkey, who took my off the cuff and slightly desperate idea of incorporating the past (NSL) into the present (A-League) and made it not just a reality but even better. Keep up the good work everyone! And hopefully one day a lot of this work will be incorporated into OzFootball itself. 
http://www.ozfootball.net/ark/Clubs/WIP.html
Blackmissionary 08:20, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ozfootball, and thankyous 

message: I find it remarkably sexist that the Australia national football (soccer) team page does not make much mention of the women's team. Either it should merge the information a little more evenly or be renamed Ausrtralia men's national football (soccer) team.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sliat 1981 (talk • contribs) 04:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You may have a point, but the naming follows the convention established for all national teams across Wikipedia. Even for nations where the women's game is stronger, this convention is followed (ie Germany Men & Women).  Note that FIFA don't make the distinction of adding "men's" to any of their naming either. - Tomperc 10:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sexisim 

message: I have just added an article on Jim Hermiston as part of my drive to improve the Aberdeen FC "Hall of Fame" section.  Since he seems to have been a reasonably popular and even quite well-known player in Australia, I wonder if anyone has a little more concrete information on his Australian career?  Specifically, it would be nice to have more details on his Philips Cup (I'm afraid I'm not familiar with the competition, so have no idea how significant it is.  It doesn't appear to have an article of its own, but I guess it could have been known by a number of names, presuming that Philips was the sponsor) wins and perhaps some stats on games and goals.  Thanks in advance, and apologies if this is not the right place for this request Watty1962 (talk) 04:34, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Happy to help with what I can.  The 'Philips Cup' was the National Soccer League Cup, which was the cup competition associated with the National Soccer League, and I think he would have won titles with Brisbane City (winning it was still an achievement, but the Cup never held much prestige in Australian football).  The NSL when it began in 1977 was the top flight in Australia.  The best resource is OzFootball which has round-by-round summaries for most years, which should supply the raw data to compile stats. - Tomperc (talk) 10:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Jim Hermiston]] 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Australia_national_football_team_templates
Hello everyone!
Recently I've gone by and made manager templates for all the a league teams, but I've run into some trouble with the colour of the text. e.g. here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ricki_Herbert, the "Wellington Phoenix FC – Managers" text is different from that of the other box. Some help would be greatly appreciated as I'm no so sure about fixing this. Thanks! :)
Hectic18 (talk) 03:38, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A-League Manager Template colours 

message: Good day from a cold and damp England. I have created an article about Harry Brophy who was briefly manager of the Australia soccer team in the 1950s. Can someone cast an eye over it and check the facts about his time in Oz, especially the red-linked clubs. e.g. there seem to be several names for the Sydney Prague club - what was its correct name? Cheers. --Daemonic Kangaroo (talk) 06:30, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Harry Brophy]] 

message: :: --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 18:47, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This WikiProject deals with football (soccer) in Australia, not Australian rules football. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:51, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed deletion: Anthony Raso 

message: .. to Association football.  Was anyone here aware of the change?  I'm rather undecided, both names have their pros and cons, but it is a pretty major change, with implications for tens of thousands of articles.  A huge number of these articles will be covered by this WikiProject, possibly even the WikiProject name itself. -- Chuq (talk) 23:31, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Has there been any decision on this?  I think either "association football" (first preference, since it is the Wikipedia standard) or "football (soccer)" is appropriate.  However there is an anonymous user editing section headings to "Association football (soccer)" which is a huge mouthful, not to mention redundant as there is only one type of "association football".  -- Chuq (talk) 07:03, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Football (soccer)]] has been renamed... 

message: I just realised that A-League Grand Final 2006 and A-League Grand Final 2007 still exist.  I had tagged them for merging into their respective season articles but lost track.  It appears no-one else commented on the mergers (probably because the articles get very little traffic).  So before someone creates the 2007-08 one, I thought I would get peoples thoughts on these articles.  If they are to be kept then I will start cleaning them up. -- Chuq (talk) 11:02, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: 2008 has just been created - any opinions on these?  95% of them seem to be the intro, infobox, navbox and categories, and info duplicated from the season articles or the report/summary link.  About the only new thing on there is the image showing the starting line-up, which is unsourced. -- Chuq (talk) 02:09, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say keep these, but they need a bit of tidy up and more prose.  The GF is a notable single match and its own article is appropriate. - Tomperc (talk) 13:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think maybe keep the 2006 and 2007 ones because they were significant in the sense that 2006 was the first one and 2007 broke all sorts of records. Normy 06:15, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grand Final articles 

message: I have started a new page for New South Wales Premier League 2008 I intend to keep it updated, but help would be greatly appreciated.
Can anyone help by writing a summary/introduction etc? --Windsok (talk) 06:41, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd highly recommend (this is what I do when I get stuck) is find a featured article similar to that you are writing about and basically copy it, replacing anything that's relevant (team names, year etc.) Normy 06:18, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New South Wales Premier League 2008 

message: Regarding appearances shown in the player infobox on player articles - Is there a consensus for if this includes/excludes finals?  In short, the infobox is to include "domestic league" only, so while cup games are out, finals series are unclear.  I can't find much on WP:FOOTY to confirm, but being an Australian/American quirk it may not appear to be an issue, however this has a big impact particularly on NSL/A-League players.  - Tomperc (talk) 10:40, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox stats 

message: Just noticed on the A-League article that somebody added that the Thunder bid may be pulled because of funds problems and as a result so may be the Galaxy. Anybody got any info for this? Normy 02:50, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion 

message: Is this article really needed? There's a section in the main A-League article explaining everything in this article and there's really not going to be much expansion on it either. Normy 07:59, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say yes, the youth league is sufficiently notable to have its own article (see earlier discussion above).  As it stands today, the A-League article provides a short summary, and the main NYL article contains all the details (although needs some improvement), which is a good balance.  Over time this article will expand, particularly leading up to the season start in August. - Tomperc (talk) 10:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Further on this - I have given the NYL article a bit of a cleanup.   I notice someone has created a separate article for the Newcastle youth team - as per the previous discussion a few sections up, I think youth team details should be part of the main club article for now.  -- Chuq (talk) 09:48, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[A-league National Youth League]] 

message: Page created at last for this club. Needs work though. Blackmissionary (talk) 05:38, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You could probably split this page up and merge it into articles for various teams - History of Football (Soccer) in Newcastle Australia -- Chuq (talk) 12:18, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newcastle Breakers 

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thread_title:  Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme 

message: Article has been created. There are now only three NSL clubs left without pages. These are Western Suburbs Magpies, Canterbury-Marrickville, and Penrith City. Blackmissionary (talk) 00:24, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wollongong United|Wollongong United/Macedonia]] 

message: With the additional leagues I can see a lot more articles .. I think that before things get to the stage where we have articles such as Adelaide United FC W-League Pre-Season Cup 2009-10, we would set some limits.  Note I will use the post-2004 leagues and clubs as examples in my proposal here, but the same "naming rules" would apply to the NSL, etc.
League articles
*A-League
*A-League National Youth League
*W-League (Australia)
It may be better to change the "National Youth League" one to "National Youth League (Australia)"
Club articles
*Adelaide United FC
*Canberra United FC
*Central Coast Mariners FC
*Gold Coast United FC
*Melbourne Victory FC
*Newcastle United Jets FC
*New Zealand Knights FC
*North Queensland FC
*Perth Glory FC
*Queensland Roar FC
*Sydney FC
*Wellington Phoenix FC
ie. any club which has or will have a team in any league in any season.  Note Canberra is included since they will have a team in the W-League in 2008-09.
Each club should include details about its mens, womens and youth teams/squads in the one article.  This is particularly relevant the mens and youth squads as there would be significant overlap.
League/year articles
  	A-League        	National Youth League                 	W-League
2005-06	A-League 2005-06	-                                     	-
2006-07	A-League 2006-07	-                                     	-
2007-08	A-League 2007-08	-                                     	-
2008-09	A-League 2008-09	A-League National Youth League 2008-09	W-League (Australia) 2008-09
Personally I believe that the Pre-season, regular season, finals series and grand final of each A-League series can go in the same article.  Since there are already separate articles it appears not everyone agrees with this, so this needs further discussion.
Club/season articles
        	2005-06                                	2006-07                                	2007-08                                	2008-09
Adelaide     	Adelaide United season 2005-06         	Adelaide United season 2006-07         	Adelaide United season 2007-08         	Adelaide United season 2008-09
Canberra     	-                                      	-                                      	-                                      	Canberra United season 2008-09
Central Coast	Central Coast Mariners season 2005-06  	Central Coast Mariners season 2006-07  	Central Coast Mariners season 2007-08  	Central Coast Mariners season 2008-09
Melbourne    	Melbourne Victory season 2005-06       	Melbourne Victory season 2006-07       	Melbourne Victory season 2007-08       	Melbourne Victory season 2008-09
Newcastle    	Newcastle United Jets FC season 2005-06	Newcastle United Jets FC season 2006-07	Newcastle United Jets FC season 2007-08	Newcastle United Jets FC season 2008-09
New Zealand  	New Zealand Knights season 2005-06     	New Zealand Knights season 2006-07     	-                                      	-
Perth        	Perth Glory season 2005-06             	Perth Glory season 2006-07             	Perth Glory season 2007-08             	Perth Glory season 2008-09
Queensland   	Queensland Roar season 2005-06         	Queensland Roar season 2006-07         	Queensland Roar season 2007-08         	Queensland Roar season 2008-09
Sydney       	Sydney FC season 2005-06               	Sydney FC season 2006-07               	Sydney FC season 2007-08               	Sydney FC season 2008-09
Wellington   	-                                      	-                                      	Wellington Phoenix season 2007-08      	Wellington Phoenix season 2008-09
(NQFC, GCU and 2009-10 omitted from this table for space reasons)
In the case of these articles, the teams in each league are from the same club. (ie. the youth team will be called Melbourne Victory, the women's team will be called Melbourne Victory), so I think it is reasonable to assume that each article would cover the men's, youth AND women's teams activities in that year.
Articles which should not exist
*Pre-season articles - redirect to season article
*Finals series/grand final articles - redirect to season article
*Youth/women's team article - redirect to club article
*Youth/women's season article - redirect to club season article
There is a bit of detail here, but I'd be interested to hear what people think. -- Chuq (talk) 07:21, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Clarkey.  I just redirected a few new articles for women's and youth teams to the club article as per the above suggestion.  The articles were nothing more than a copy of the main club's infobox, an edited copy of the intro paragraph, and the fb templates from the end of the main club article, so there wasn't anything to merge.  I mentioned this discussion in the edit summaries so we may get a few more comments now. -- Chuq (talk) 11:18, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  General article structure 

message: Can somebody with a greater knowledge of the player create an article for him? It's strange that an international footballer (presumably a fairly recent one, as his son is 20ish, he's probably 50ish, making him an international sometime in the 70's) doesn't have an article, though I appriciate football/soccer is only starting to blossom in Australia. More to the point, there are several links to him, which look unprofessional.86.138.147.45 (talk) 19:51, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vic Bozanić 

message: Hi peoples. Apologies if you've already read this on other forums. I've been working on the OzFootball club database for about a year now, and am looking to get more people onboard, but especially in my area. So this is a heads up that I'm looking for helpers to compile stats pages for match results and player rosters for A-League teams, as in the examples below:
http://www.ozfootball.net/ark/Clubs/S/SouthMelbournePR2007.html
http://www.ozfootball.net/ark/Clubs/S/SouthMelbournePR2007.html
Of course, any and all help is appreciated, and you needn't limit yourself only to A-League stats, you could do NSL club stats as well, or even get in contact with other people working in other areas and see what you can add to the project. The contact pages have been updated, and so getting touch with people working on OzFootball shouldn't be as hard as it used to be. If you'd like to help out in my area, leave a message on my talk page, or preferably email me, my address is in my user page. Thanks for listenbing and keep up the good work on here. Blackmissionary (talk) 01:23, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  OzFootball - looking for volunteers 

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thread_title:  Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for A-League player 

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thread_title:  Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Football (soccer) in Australia 

message: Recently found out enough information about this club from here which allowed me to create a page for this little known club. This means that there is only one NSL participant who does not have a page, Western Suburbs Magpies. Will try and track down some info, but would rather someone else beat me to it! Blackmissionary (talk) 03:55, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Penrith City SC]] 

message: NAB Soccer Club has been nominated for speedy deletion. This is a second tier state league club in South Australia. Given quite a few similar clubs have pages of their own, should there be something said or done? --Hack (talk) 08:37, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NAB Soccer Club - speedy deletion 

message: Can any kind soul please check for this page pf the W-League  to see if the time and timezone that I had put in for Round 2 is correct? I'm not quite sure about the time zone. Frankie goh (talk) 08:35, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help needed 

message: Hey, the two new teams coming into the A-League for the A-League 2009-10 season are North Queensland Fury and Gold Coast United, and Squilibob and I have been working on templates for that season. Template:A-League 2009-10 Position Ladder will be the ladder, and the two new teams require a colour to use for highlighting their rows if needed. These are located at Template:ALeague GCU colour and Template:ALeague NQF colour. What I'm discussing here is if the colour I have set for the Fury is possibly too dark, and the text can't be seen clearly through it. To see for yourself, edit Template:A-League_2009-10_Position_Ladder/doc and preview with passed parameter 'yes' for NQF (explained in more detail under the 'Displaying' heading).
The GCU colour is set as the same for Sydney FC, should it be different? See here. Thanks, timsdad  (talk) 08:33, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New team colours for 2009-10 A-League season 

message: In the Johnny Warren Medal and Joe Marston Medal articles there were three players without pages. These were, Kresimir Marusic, Brad Maloney and Alan Hunter (footballer). As you can porbably tell, these are now done, but are just stubs. There's probably a stack of information and links to be made, and categories to add, I might get around to them, but as per usual, it's nicer when someone beats you to it. Alan Hunter probably has the most incorrect links to sort out. --Blackmissionary (talk) 23:04, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  NSL medallists - various creations 

message: Creating a new section since it is related but separate to the above issue.  Each of the season articles eg A-League 2008-09 currently has a full rundown of each match include teams, venue, goals, cards, ref, crowd, etc.  I notice that Premier League 2008-09, La Liga 2008-09, and so on, don't have this - just a grid with the results.  If EPL match results aren't deemed notable, would A-League match results be?  Should we do the same thing?  The fact teams play each other 3 times instead of two could be solved in the same way that Scottish Premier League 2008-09 does it. -- Chuq (talk) 06:08, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article structure - results 

message: I have spotted some odd editing on the Perth Glory youth squad section, but cannoy verify whether the new players added have actually joined them, as the club official website does not have a lot of details. Can any experts check this out, and also see if other squads are right?Frankie goh (talk) 06:33, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Full disclosure: I agree w/ Cantalejo's ruling on the field in the Round of 16 game. That being said, I've edited the Lucas Neill article using NPOV language, after a number of video reviews. Socceroo partisans keep doing POV reverts. I was advised to mention this in this forum. If the pattern continues, the Editors will be notified. If anyone here has any other ideas,  they're welcome. Tapered (talk) 23:35, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neill/Grosso 2006 FIFA controversy 

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thread_title:  Coordinators' working group 

message: Thanks to MelbCro who created this page last month, we now have pages for every single NSL team. The three main goals therefore from this point on should be to beef up these pages where possible, with appropriate citations, start standardising perhaps some of the layout/presentation, as well as remove any and all POV material which may be present. Thanks to all those who've assisted in creating and editing articles in this section of our project. I'm quite proud of the progress made over the last few years, since I first laid eyes on what was the almost utter desolation of NSL related articles. Blackmissionary (talk) 02:46, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Western Suburbs SC (NSW)]] 

message: Could someone who is more familiar with this topic try to make sense of the varying interlinked clubs -
Whittlesea Zebras FC
Box Hill Inter
Bulleen Royals
Brunswick Juventus
and others
I am trying to work out in what years the various entities existed in their own rights and as merged clubs.
User:Hack (talk) 11:21, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Melbourne clubs 

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thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Article alerts|Article alerts]] 

message: A couple of ip editors have been adding Category:Australian Muslims to Turkish-Australian footballers including Ufuk Talay, Selin Kuralay and Tolgay Özbey. No reference to them being Muslim is included in these articles let alone a reference. Could people keep an eye out for this... The Hack 01:12, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religious affiliation 

message: At what point does an Australian footballer become notable from a footballing point of view? Is it enough to have played NSL/A-League. The Hack 01:14, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Playing an A-League game does confer notability as the league is fully professional. The guidelines for athletes says "People who have competed at the fully professional level of a sport" so the A-League qualifies. Was the NSL professional or semi-professional? I think it was semi-pro, so if true players would need to either have played at senior or olympic international level, played in a different professional league or to meet the more stringent notability criteria of having "received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject". Camw (talk) 01:32, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  There were pro players and semi-pro players in the NSL, and there were eras where clubs went professional, which complicates this issue greatly. At the very least, award winners, leading goalsscorers and such from the NSL should be included, since even the most obscure A-League player gets a mention. Blackmissionary (talk) 11:16, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  If the broad notability guidelines can be satisfied (and award winners, leading goalscorers etc should be okay as long as the reliable sources can be found) then an article is definitely appropriate. I've been meaning to try to start articles on the large number of NSL players that played for the Socceroos and don't have articles yet, but have been busy with other tasks. Camw (talk) 11:23, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  So a player like Mitchell Johnson (soccer) (assuming he hasn't yet played in the ACL) isn't notable? The Hack 12:30, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Without looking further for sources and if Newcastle United weren't fully professional during the time he played for them he would be borderline and I'd be leaning toward him not being notable. If more articles like this are around then that would make a strong case for inclusion under the significant coverage criteria. The other sources in the article only contain brief coverage of him. Camw (talk) 18:00, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Judging by your previous comments and looking at the notability guidelines he would have to have played in a fully pro league, which the NSL was at no point. When I created the article I was only able to find three articles where he was the primary focus. I figured that having played NSL, being the highest level in this country, would have sufficed.The Hack 05:54, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability 

message: I notice that the article Association football in Tasmania doesn't refer to matches played by UK professionals in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s, or the international visits by teams such as the Chinese tour of 1923. Is it simply that people didn't know the matches took place, or is there some other reason which prevents them being mentioned e.g. not significant enough ? I have some basic details which could be added to the article if acceptable.
RossRSmith (talk) 12:04, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's to do with Tassie, so you may never know! Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 12:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find a reliable reference for it probably be should put it in...The Hack 00:48, 17 April 2009 (UTC)

text:  Thanks!. Will sort out the citations for the half dozen or so that I have already and update article by end of the week.
RossRSmith (talk) 10:07, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visiting teams to Tasmania 

message: Referees cfd. Views welcome. Occuli (talk) 21:21, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  cfd 

message: With the Roar's recent name change to Brisbane Roar, what will become of the templates that currently exist using the letters QR?
These are some, I'm not sure if any others exist (apart from the ladder template codes to highlight a team's colour, etc...)
*Template:ALeague QR
*Template:ALeague QR colour
*Template:AUS fb A-League QR
--timsdad  (talk) 07:38, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm creating a new template, Template:ALeague BR, so that it can be used for newer articles (i.e. the A-League 2009–10 article) whilst the old season articles keep the same name of Queensland Roar as they were called at the time. --timsdad  (talk) 07:40, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have also created Template:ALeague BR colour (Template:ALeague QR colour now redirects there) to allow for the Roar's row highlighting. --timsdad  (talk) 07:54, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Template:AUS fb A-League QR now redirects to Template:AUS fb A-League BR, so unless anybody can add anything here that needs to be addressed...I guess it's all sorted then. Come to think of it, it was a bit silly of me to even start up this discussion in the first place. --timsdad  (talk) 10:56, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Queensland Roar name change 

message: This person is listed as the coach of the 1956 Australian Olympic team. I can find virtually no information on him so I'm wondering whether there had been some sort of mistake with the first name as there is a lot of information on Robert "Bob" Telfer (who is a member of the Australian Football Hall of Fame) at around the same time. The Hack 02:42, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Richard Telfer 

message: For some reason Peter Wilson, captain of the 74 Socceroos, is Peter Wilson (English footballer). Peter Wilson (footballer) redirects to the AFL player of the same name. What would the most appropriate name for this article be? Surely he can't be English in the footballing sense...The Hack 15:16, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of his football career took place after he migrated to Australia so it should be Peter Wilson (Australian footballer). As long as there's a hatnote linking to Peter Wilson (Australian rules footballer), I don't see any problems. There's also a Peter Wilson (soccer) and Peter Wilson (Scottish footballer), so Peter Wilson (footballer) should perhaps be a disambiguation page as it could refer to either of the four people. Jevansen (talk) 11:40, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter Wilson (English footballer) 

message: FYI all of the WA Premier League and Division One teams have been listed for AFD at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Western Knights.The Hack 10:32, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Football West State League clubs - AFD 

message: Just had a look at List of Australia national football team results. Just wondering if hiding details in this instance is the most efficient way of displaying this information. For a casual reader it would seem like it is really only helpful if you know the specific year you are looking for.The Hack 04:29, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accessibility of information 

message: Hi WikiProject Football (soccer) in Australia. Is this guy's first name "Matthew" (with 2 't's) or "Mathew" (with one 't')? Google turns up numerous (what appear to me to be reliable) references for both spellings. Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 08:51, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: His Melbourne Victory profile  his Australia U-20 profile  and his former club  show his name with one t. I wouldn't think that's an accident.The Hack 14:28, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me. I've changed it. Thanks. DH85868993 (talk) 15:26, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Matthew Theodore]]