Talk:Armenian genocide

message: I propose merging the information from Rescue of Armenians during the Genocide to this page.
I think the content in other page is highly relevant but also so short that it might as well just be included here. That work might need to occur alongside analysis of the source problem flags that exist on the "rescue of..." page.  Armeym (talk) 01:43, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose This is a featured article, it already contains all the content that it should. A better solution would be expanding the rescue article. I recommend Mouradian's The Resistance Network as a source. (t · c) buidhe 01:56, 10 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Oppose However it must be merged into Rescue of Armenians during the Armenian genocide, since they deal with the same topic.--RekishiEJ (talk) 02:23, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal from "Rescue of Armenians during the Genocide" 

message: @Buidhe I saw you put the range, but I put "around 1 million" to similarly match the one for the Holocaust. A book by historian Richard G. Hovannisian puts the toll between 600,000 to 2 million, with a United Nations report putting it at around 1 million. Should the whole range be put or an approximate value? Reaper1945 (talk) 03:19, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: We had discussion about this a while back, and there was consensus to put the 600,000 to 1.5 million range in the infobox if one was included. 2 million is not credible according to recent scholarship (although 1.5 isn't well supported either). (t · c) buidhe 03:21, 11 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Got it, I'll check for any recent clarifications of the death toll if there have been any made in the 2020s, if not, the 2019 source you provided seems best then. The source by Richard G. Hovannisian is from 1999, though may have some relatively good information. Reaper1945 (talk) 03:24, 11 April 2024 (UTC)

text: * The truth is that 1.5 million (or up to 1.5 million, for instance 1.2 million, 1.3 million) is very well supported (see Archives for this talk containing a myriad of RSs supporting these figures) and are widely used among genocide scholars, politicians, legislators, human rights activists, international lawyers, etc. Your lousy “around one million” is not well supported. Proof? There is no single reference in the opening para supporting that figure. Would you stop misleading your readers and insulting the professionalism of specialists in this subject area, please?73.173.64.115 (talk) 20:47, 29 April 2024 (UTC)

text: This editor (t · c) buidhe, for years now, stubbornly refuses (as if she owns the article, which is against Wikipedia's rules and regulations) to place the death toll range in the opening sentence. Many "battles" were fought on these Talk pages to remind her, over and over again, that in order to maintain a neutral point of view, Wikipedia editors MUST include ALL significant points of view with appropriate attributions. See: WP:CONFLICTING. It's to no avail. It's like spitting into the wind...73.173.64.115 (talk) 22:11, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armenian Genocide death toll infobox 

message: The annotation concerning number of Armenians killed in the box on the right doesn,t prove given number. In the text it is stated: "(...) one milion or so (...)". Eleczeks (talk) 17:52, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The source provided does support the numbers given. See Google Books EvergreenFir (talk) 18:02, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: A multitude of RSs—provided a while ago and now kept in the Archives—indicate that the number of Armenians mass murdered, according to many reputable genocide scholars, genocide prevention experts, late Ottoman era historians, leading politicians, and international lawyers, ranges from over a million to 1.5 million. This has been more than once brought to the attention of this editor (t · c) buidhe. But she continues to keep a voluntarily rounded figure of “around one million” in the opening paragraph (why voluntarily? because, for all readers to see, the figure is not supported by any reference). While other editors prefer to turn a blind eye on this sheer violation of WP:CONFLICTING.73.173.64.115 (talk) 17:02, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 7 May 2024