Talk:Anti-Nazi League

message: I have removed following statement about Julie Waterson the from the article:
:In May 2001 she wrote in the SWP's newpaper, the Socialist Worker:
::"We [the ANL] are not turning our back on the Marxist tradition that we stand for."
That sentence was actually a reference to the SWP not the ANL. The article has nothing to do with the ANL but its about the merger between the SWP and the Scottish Socialist Party.. Saul Taylor 06:29, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing misleading comment

message: The Anti-Nazi League (or ANL) is a UK coalition against neo-Fascist organizations.  It developed in the 1970s as an attempt to counter the National Front, and then again in the 1990s against various other Right-wing organisations whose view ran contrary to the ANL's.  In the 2000s, its main target has been the British National Party.
The ANL's open policy is that any person or group with whom they disagree (and usually inacurately apply the label "nazi", playing on anti-german sentiment) should be banned by law and prevented from excersising free speech. In this way the ANL is openly anti-democratic.
In response to this obviously threat to deomcracy, the Pro-Democracy League has been established to combat the ANL, holding counter-demonstrations in favour of democracy when ANL members are waving their "Ban the BNP" yellow lollipop-shaped placards.
The ANL distributes (often allegedly illegal) propaganda and holds campaigns and (often violent) protests against these groups, and sometimes attempts to physically prevent their meetings and marches, resulting in arrest of ANL activists by police.
Many times threats of violence from the ANL has led to the police force banning protests - both by the ANL and its opponents.
The ANL was linked to Rock Against Racism in the 1970s, had a huge carnival in London in the 1990s, and works with Love Music Hate Racism in the 2000s in an attempt to portray its far-left views as mainstream, and attract more support from young people.
The ANL has been acurately described by some of its critics as a front organization for the Socialist Workers Party, an extreme left-wing organisation which idolises Trotsky and the political organisation of Stalin's Russia. 
Much success has been enjoyed by the ANL attempts to infiltrate and affiliate with many Trade Unions, many of which have high officials with far-left sympathies.
:Well, that's all well and good, but it's clearly not NPOV. Firstly, because you come out and say that you believe they are liars when you write The ANL's open policy is that any person or group with whom they disagree (and usually inacurately apply the label "nazi", playing on anti-german sentiment).  You go on to say that it has been acurately described by some of its critics as a front organization for the Socialist Workers Party, thereby stating that you side with "its critics" - which is, of course, a weasel term. Also, learn to spell. But seriously - what is this alternative article meant to achieve?  Simply slanting it differently? If you have other facts to include, please do share. -- Yitzhak 22:19, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I just put it here to help me in merging info from it (which I NPOVed pretty well, I'd say). Sam [Spade] 22:28, 19 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, ok.  The wording was still a little biased, and I did some research... I couldn't find any specific instance of the ANL advocating party bans (maybe I didn't look hard enough), but it certainly doesn't seem to be their official position at the moment, at any rate. I could only find one instance of a counter-demonstration on the part of the PDL, but oh well.  Interesting enough, their website are clearly built in the same way... perhaps a joke? -- Yitzhak 23:39, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  The common ANL 'lollipop' placards have the text "Shut down the BNP" written on them. If that isn't 'advocating party bans' then I don't know what is! Here's a photograph ; A BBC search reveals plenty more examples. 80.255 17:08, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: Now that would be a difficult achievement!  AndyL 06:26, 20 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternate article 

message: The following was written in the section headed Opposition
Critics claim that ANL's "No Platform for Nazis" policy and their call for undesirable parties to be "shut down" deny the democratic rights to freedom of speech and freedom of association, they also deny that their groups are fascist.
My problem is that this statement assumes that critics of the ANL are all from fascist groups.
It should say something like 'far-right critics deny that their groups are fascist'. Instead the whole statement starts by talking about critics in general and ends by saying that this same group of people deny fascism.
What many people dont understand is that the ANL have critics even from with the liberal, socialist, left-wing, multicultural and anti-racist community. Some fierce opponents of the BNP still support the BNPs legal right to exist and they will say that the ANLs call to ban the BNP is counterproductive by making the far-right look like victims of intolerant lefties.
What I think i will do is change this section from Opposition to Criticism because there are some on the same side as the ANL (anti-racist) which disagree with with ANL tactics and ideology.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.31.62.229 (talk • contribs).
: I agree this sentance is wrongly worded and I've changed this and the section name though. This whole section needs a rewrite though - its a very ping pong set of arguments.--NHSavage 22:27, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've had a bash a reworking the whole section - and renamed it challenges, as the first of the two, the BNP's attempts at "moderation", isn't really a criticism or opposition of the ANL. I'm going to try and look out some more citations, as the whole section is a bit light on them! Mtpt 16:57, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assumptions about critics 

message: Not a merger request at this stage, but this article's content on the subject pretty well duplicates the seperate Blair Peach article. It might be better to just link to that article? Mtpt 16:57, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Blair Peach

message: Made some adjustments to Criticisms section and forgot to uncheck "minor edit". --BobFromBrockley 15:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oops 

message: Hi. I cannot figure out how to add citations, however, I have a link to this school's entry on the DFES website. If this is okay, can someone please add it to the article. Thanks
http://www.dfes.gov.uk/cgi-bin/performancetables/dfepx1_05.pl?No=p145&Type=p&Mode=Z&Reg=7&School=3072162
:Done.--JK the unwise 11:39, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a useful link to provide. It appears to show that Blair Peach Primary outstrips the average school across England in terms of its pupils' performance at Maths, Science and English. Multiculturalist (talk) 00:47, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blair Peach Primary School 

message: Where was this league formed? We don't say. Moriori (talk) 20:21, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Where?

message: Remember kicking BNP butt up and down the district lline (1992? -4?)... Classic! Basket Feudalist  13:41, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Butt-kicking 

message: After I joined the ANL in late 1981 all my mail, aside from bank statements, (I was in a university hall of residence) was opened over the next year or so. Some of it was just ripped, other things were rewrapped with 'opened in error' or 'damaged in post' written on them. I remember telling a mate who mocked me - until we got to the pigeonholes and both the things waiting for me had been opened. I was probably less of a threat to the system than Wolfie Smith makes you wonder who else was (is) under similar observation... Stub Mandrel (talk) 13:51, 15 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Surveillance 

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