Talk:Cracker (British TV series)

message: The name of the feature-length episode seems to be the subject of several edits. I've only ever seen the "Lucky White Ghost" version referred to online: on the individual DVD box, on the complete series box set, in the interactive menu , and in the credits of the episode , it's simply "White Ghost". Patabongo 03:29, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have the Region 1 boxed set, and it is printed "Lucky White Ghost" on the DVD itself. I'd have to check the credits again, though, to confirm the televised title. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 06:12, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just checked - the title on the episode as in the DVD I have, following the credit "Cracker written by Paul Abbott" is "Lucky White Ghost". The menu also calls it that. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 12:15, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

text: The title given on first broadcast in England was White Ghost, so afaics that is definitive. DavidFarmbrough 12:26, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds about right. I have to say I prefer White Ghost as a title anyway. Patabongo 13:02, 4 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I called it 'Lucky White Ghost' on my website about the series, but it definitely was originally titled 'White Ghost' (going from it's original ITV screening and the original Radio Times of 1996 which called it by that title). Yet I swear I have a version of it on VHS where it's titled 'Lucky White Ghost' so it's chopped and changed over the years for some reason and various articles I own refer to it as the latter title. I will have to get round to changing the title on my site to it's originally broadcast name at some point --SarahJK 18:06, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: (Lucky) White Ghost

message: Okay, more transAtlantic confusion: the entry refers to "seasons" in the overview and "series" everywhere else. I'm going to change them all to the American usage, since it seems to me to be clearer. Patabongo 13:13, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps clearer, but "series" for everything seems to be understood worldwide, even if not in majority usage in each locale, and this is a British TV show.  We should not be afraid to use British English, as per WP guidelines.  Another user has already reverted to British English "series". --Estarriol 13:39, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not "afraid", no -- but I do think it's handy to have one word for each run of episodes and another word to refer to the show as a whole. It seems a shame to abandon a perfectly useful term out of parochialism, but I'm not bothered enough about it to re-edit the entry. Patabongo 23:40, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed an entry in the overview from 'seasons' to 'series'. This read incorrectly to me; giving an explanation about the usage of the word 'seasons' in an article about a British television programme rather than the other way around.--82.39.14.169 20:18, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Series

message: There is a staement that most of the programmes are 50 minutes long. Surely wrong? The one I have in front of me, Mad Woman In The Attic, is 104 minutes, and I recall they are all "feature length".
:Each episode was 50 minutes long. The Mad Woman In The Attic story was two episodes long. Patabongo 15:00, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Until a WP:RS other than a memory or a blog can be provided the info cannot go into the article. MarnetteD | Talk 16:22, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand, though it's hard for people to seek for this information if they do not know there were changes made. If the policing on this is so strict, not even allowing for a 'source?' footnote request, can you explain why the broadcast date has been permitted to stay corrected? What is the source for that date? Indeed, what is the source for the other dates and the episode durations?82.71.8.73 (talk) 16:49, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Programme lengths

message: Is it right to refer to Robert Carlyle as a 'guest star', considering he was virtually unknown at the time of appearing in the show?Popcorn II (talk) 14:25, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: He had a number of film and TV roles by then.  Regardless, the issue (if there were one) would be with the title of the section; it's OR arguably, since the TV show's own credits didn't use the phrase "guest stars" or "guest starring".  Here, it's a list of notable actors who have appeared in the show as character actors.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  14:05, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guest star? 

message: Is anyone able to add anything about the reception of the series? I remember that the storylines were rather controversial, but I don't know enough to write anything. Sidefall (talk) 13:04, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception 

message: "The "Men Should Weep" storyline was originally conceived as a plot for Prime Suspect, in which the series' protagonist, Jane Tennison, was raped."
If you actually read the source it says, "I was hoping to be asked to write a Prime Suspect in which Jane Tennison got raped."
Was it really conceived to be a plot for Prime Suspect or was the quoted person joking? It's clearly not conceived as a plot for Prime Suspect, why would someone wait and hope to be asked? Why would he even want to write for Prime Suspect when he clearly doesn't like the show?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.35.22 (talk) 15:08, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source clearly taken out of context 

message: "In "The Big Crunch", Mark claims that he is older than Penhaligon, although whether or not this is true is not known"
Penhaligon is without question older than Mark. In 'The Big Crunch' when Mark says he is older than her, Fitz replies "Hardly". Mark is approximately around 18 years of age at the start of the series and Penhaligon is already an established Detective Sergeant in the police force. She is probably aged around 27/28 in Series 1 to Fitz's 44 (Penhaligon refers to his age as being this in 'To Say I Love You'). There is clearly a considerable age gap between Fitz and Penhaligon, as per Mark's comment to Judith in 'Brotherly Love' that she is still young enough to be his daughter (so presumably around a 16 year age gap between them), but she is definitely not as young as Mark.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.0.41.145 (talk) 14:04, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mark/Penhaligon's age