Talk:Mustafa Adrisi

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message: Wow, you are right. Thanks for correcting my mistake. They are actually different positions; I found this: "Lumago, who was appointed Minister of State for Defence, has been appointed Chief of Staff under Vice President and Minister of Defence, General Mustafa" [Adrisi] (Summary of World Broadcasts: Non-Arab Africa 5402-5477)). Applodion (talk) 00:06, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem. I imagine that Lumago's post involved very little actual responsibility, and this explains why To the Point International said he never did much to take control of the portfolio—there probably wasn't much of one to begin with, since Adrisi controlled defence affairs. I bet Amin gave him the job to elevate his status to government minister and maybe signal to Adrisi to dial down his disagreements with the President, without much care over what Lumago did with the job. -Indy beetle (talk) 00:11, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Considering that Amin tended to promote people all the time as part of his patronage system, it would make sense that he indeed treated ministerial portfolios in a similar way. It should be said, however, that "Minister of State for Defence" remains an actual position even to this day in Uganda. In fact, two(!) people are currently Minister of State for Defence (see here), namely Col. Engola Okello Charles  and Lt. Col. Rwamirama Bright, probably serving under "Minister of Defence and Veteran Affairs" Mwesige Adolf. Perhaps Lumago's job was not all that useless after all; I also think that it might be strange for Amin to appoint someone who was regarded as supportive of Adrisi to limit Adrisi' power. Then again, it might be possible. After all, Juma Oris was fired as Adrisi supporter in 1978, but was one of Amin's last loyalists in 1979. Furthermore, Gowon was also pro-Adrisi, but became the new chief of staff after Lumago was purged due to being pro-Adrisi! Loyalties were probably much more complex and the politics of the Amin regime more clever than most sources give them credit for (Considering that they often reduce it to "Amin likes West Nile people and Muslims"). Applodion (talk) 00:27, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  To the Point International says that Lumago's recall to Uganda from his diplomatic job was seen by most observers at the time as a move to reduce Adrisi's influence, which of course contradicts with his demotion at the time Adrisi was isolated, so yes I'm willing to bet that loyalties were more complex and Amin was probably just playing his top officials off of each other to distract them from eyeing the presidency. -Indy beetle (talk) 00:31, 22 December 2019 (UTC)
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message: Thanks for adding that detail on Adrisi's view of the car accident - I had seen it before but had forgotten where the source was. -Indy beetle (talk) 08:26, 17 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Car accident