Talk:Panzer Lehr Division

message: User:Ansbachdragoner, I'm happy to see someone interested in writing articles about the German WWII order of battle, but please...
* Remember this is an English language encyclopedia, so try to use English language conventions when referring to German stuff, when possible.
* Also, try to stick to the convention of prefixing the names of articles about German military units with "German_". (It's not my convention, and I didn't like it at first, but I see that it's necessary for lots of units, and consistency seems to be the best policy even where it isn't strictly necessary.)
* If you can't resist the urge to replace an existing article with your own variant, please have the courtesy to take along the see-alsos, references, and categories that someone has invested the trouble to create in the original article.
B.Bryant 05:17, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. FYI, I just created a draft Wikipedia:Naming conventions (military units), which I hope you'll look at and join the discussion on. (Notice that my recent stubs don't actually conform to it — it was the headaches I've encountered in generating the stubs, and feedback like the above, that convinced me we need some sort of guidelines. Once we get a consensus on the guidelines I'll try to go back through them and bring them up to spec.) — B.Bryant 00:25, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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message: is German really needed in the title of the article, German Panzer Lehr Division? was there another Panzer Lehr division from another country, e.g was their a French Panzer Lehr division? if so I've never heard of it.  German is an unneeded modifying adjective, as I've always just heard Panzer Lehr.
--Jadger 23:21, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Article Title

message: The German word is Panzerlehrdivision, no dashes or gaps. Could someone logged in please move the article accordingly. (Though I'm sure that someone will point out that this is the English Wikipedia and different rules apply. Nevermind that it's ridiculously stupid to hack up perfectly correct German words only to match English grammar. Make up your mind, either use the German word or translate it.)
:Actually Panzer-Lehr-Division is also used (Tessin for instance).--Caranorn 21:37, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Panzerlehrdivision 

message: I just finished a game call Company of Heroes, this divison was featured as the main opponent of the game and is the main driving force behind the game's story. The game mainly featued this unit in action during Operation Cobra and also in a smaller extent Battle of Cherbourg and the closing of the Falaise pocket. Should I include this reference under the header Dramatization?
Jim101 22:26, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should I add reference to videogames? 

message: The text says, "Its great weakness was that it concentrated the cream of Germany's tank commanders/instructors in a single unit thus making it a primary target for destruction in terms of Allied strategy".  I don't believe that was the case.  It was "targetted" if that's the current phrase, because it was a powerful armored formation, not for this reason.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Antarctica moon (talk • contribs) 08:46, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed, I just edited that bit out. They were targeted the same way as every other enemy formation. DMorpheus (talk) 18:03, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Targeted by Allies?  

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:PanzerGren - PzLehr.jpg

message: Since this article has no citations I've changed its status to start. Sturmvogel 66 (talk) 12:21, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Dropped to start

message: The operation was not called Wacht Am Rhein.  Wacht Am Rhein is a cover name for the build up portion of the operation designed to disguise the purpose of the German build up.  The actual name of the execution portion of the offensive was Herbstnebel (roughly translated Autumn Mist).
Re: discussion on German words.  Is it Wikipedia's focus to be a 6th grader's research tool?  If not, then let the German words stand and provide translation as a courtesy.  Serious non-professional, researchers encounter rafts of German words and often encounter exact quotes from the participants in their original deutsch (German).  Some of us bother to learn some deutsch.  Also, many of those words and phrases (e.g. Blitzkrieg) are not English, yet are common knowledge.  Please don't dumb down the article to the lowest common denominator.
Panzerlehrdivision?  I've never seen it written this way in my forty some years of interest.  Why wasn't this suggestion ignored out of hand and so much time spent documenting the obvious?  If I change the word, THE to TEH in an edit.  Does everyone then have to go consult fifty different dictionaries to change it back?
Papa greystoke (talk) 01:02, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Panzer Lehr Division 

message: In a few minutes of research I could not find any reference other than the English and German Wikipedia articles on the Panzer Lehr Division themselves that mentions Graf Strachwitz ever having commanded Panzer Lehr.  Neither of the articles on Strachwitz or Bayerlein make any mention of Bayerlein having relinquished his command on 7 or 8 June 1944 (a day after D-day!).  Samuel W. Mitcham, "The Panzer Legions: A Guide to the German Army Tank Divisions of World War II" has Bayerlein commanding from 10 Feb 1944 to 5 Jan 1945, with Gerhardt and von Hauser as Acting Commanders from 23 Aug to 8 Sep (supposedly even Knight's Cross holders needed a break every now and then!).  Mitcham hedges his account with the weasel words "Commanders included ...", but seems in line with any other source I could find on the German and English speaking web,
I am not going to edit the main article, but could someone please look into this.
81.179.10.85 (talk) 11:16, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graf Strachwitz? 

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