Talk:National Union of Students (United Kingdom)

message: Why is there no mention of the expulsion of Jewish student groups in the 1970's, on the grounds that they opposed UN General Assembly Resolution 3379 of 1975?  (See http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200405/cmselect/cmhaff/165/165we38.htm etc.)  This is the incident which brought the NUS its highest degree of international fame over the years (and it was certainly the only time when average Americans were likely to read about the NUS on an ongoing basis in newspapers other than the New York Times). AnonMoos 16:28, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at the link it doesn't explicitly say that this was actually the NUS who expelled Jewish groups. It is quite common for local students' unions to be described as "the local branch of NUS" when they are nothing of the sort - they are merely individual organisational members. NUS does not dictate policy to individual students' unions and equally cannot be held responsible to the action of its affiliates. Timrollpickering 17:26, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no idea about the technicalities of the formal organizational chart, but the Jewish student groups were clearly being expelled in accordance with resolutions passed at a national level by the national organization.  As I said, it was the NUS's moment of greatest international fame, so it seems odd not to mention it... AnonMoos 20:09, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: 1970's history

message: There is a cfd to a closely related category here. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 21:14, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  cfd 

message: Rerverted this edit due to other vandalism from same anon account.  Unable to confirm official-elect info from NUS web site. --John Nagle (talk) 03:24, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The info is correct (they were elected last Saturday) but the NUS website is often slow on this area. I'll see if I can find an online source and readd it in a better format. Timrollpickering (talk) 07:26, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverted possible vandalism 

message: moved. The parens does not necessarily imply a branch but are often used as a disambiguator in various articles. Since 'of the United Kingdom' is apparently not a part of the title of the organization, the current title does not work at all. --RegentsPark (talk) 16:39, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: National Union of Students of the United Kingdom → National Union of Students (United Kingdom) — The current title suggests that name of the organisation is NUSUK when it is not, and to create more uniformity to general wikipedia. - Abedecian ~ Talk to me and you get cake! 23:32, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

text: *It doesn't suggest a branch, the brackets are used for types, i.e. 'name (type)' e.g. Labour Party (UK), and just because other unions do not have it yet, doesn't mean they shouldn't. - Abedecian ~ Talk to me and you get cake! 16:38, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

text: *To change a standard naming or a use in naming about several articles it's better to explain a proposal in the related project talk page, than to request a move, just for not changing uniform title style.Theirrulez (talk) 17:25, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *Your argument for opposing this move doesn't make sense, to what other articles are you alluding to? The form used in this article isn't standard for all organisations of this kind because they all have different names, such as Austrian Students' Association in Austria, VSS-UNES-USU in Switzerland, and Student Chamber of the Council of Higher Education Institutions in the Czech Republic. 84.92.117.93 (talk) 16:18, 19 May 2010 (UTC)

text: 1. The National Union shall be an unincorporated association in the name of "The National Union of Students of the United Kingdom" (here after called "the National Union").
Timrollpickering (talk) 20:47, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Move page to National Union of Students (United Kingdom)

message: There are far too unessisary tables making the page very long. It needs either:
#Make them collaspisble/merge them and add text about the section and the table
#Remove the table and section
As for the long list of names, put in a table and do as above.
Abedecian ~ Talk to me and you get cake! 06:08, 30 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The tables and lists on the page

message: Is there a reliable source to back up the claim that the claim made by the NUS officers was "incorrect"? They seem to have a valid case and this has never been contested in court. Corrected to a more neutral tone.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.129.199.102 (talk) 00:34, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Durham Controversy 

message: I've just merged this in. There was an AfD in 2005, but I'm pretty sure the process followed there wouldn't stand up to today's policy-based decisions. I couldn't find anything indicating notability according to WP:ORG. -- Trevj (talk) 13:15, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Could do with some references and a year.Mikejamesshaw (talk) 22:30, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Unfortunately, I don't think the photo satisfies the free content criteria, so I've . The logo on its own (e.g. taken from a website) may possibly be included, along with a non-free use rationale. -- Trevj (talk) 05:41, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  flirt! 

message: Does it make sense for an encyclopedia to call a section this? Or could it be more vague such as "notable controversies" and then subsections by... decade? ms (talk) 15:13, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Current & recent issues" 

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message: As a result of this election result I notice a few non-registered users making unhelpful edits to the article. As a result I have partially protected the page so only confirmed Wikipedia editors can contribute for the next week. The controversy about Ms Bouttia's election should probably be reflected in the article and constructive edits that do this woudl be welcome. Regards, The Land (talk) 19:21, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The president listed is wrong, the previous president is still in office for another month. They are elected at a conference in April and do not start for a while. This can be seen at  Thanks  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.197.223.38 (talk) 13:41, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page protection 

message: As of today 8 June 2016, four universities have disaffiliated from NUS, mainly as a protest against its new leader, Malia Bouattia: Hull, Lincoln, Loughborough and Newcastle. What effects will this have on the union's budget? --Edelseider (talk) 18:01, 8 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cost of disaffiliations 

message: Hello! I'm not very adept at editing wikipedia, but here are a plethora of sources for the new section, if others could help add them it would be on benefit to this outdated article.
* http://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/newcastle-university-cuts-ties-nus-11326067
* https://www.vice.com/en_uk/read/whats-going-on-with-the-nus-disaffiliation
* http://www.durhamsu.com/main-menu/have-your-say/referendum
* http://versanews.co.uk/2016/06/02/breaking-oxford-votes-to-stay-in-the-nus/
* http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8178/malia-bouattia
* http://versanews.co.uk/2016/05/31/breaking-nus-violate-referendum-rules-in-an-attempt-to-influence-result/
* http://thetab.com/2016/05/27/nus-disaffiliation-referendums-story-far-91322
* http://thetab.com/uk/cambridge/2016/05/26/breaking-no-action-taken-nus-breaking-referendum-rules-77729  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.162.171 (talk) 13:39, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like somebody slightly rewrote that section and just dumped a few of those links. We have a serious problem concerning NPOV language in this section. Proficient-moose (talk) 13:41, 15 June 2016 (UTC)

text: I actually just got round to adding in the links; what do you think is an issue vis-a-vis NPOV? I feel I just stated the facts, frankly.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.15.161.192 (talk) 21:54, 14 July 2016 (UTC)

text: It looks fine and refers to facts for a national drive for disaffiliation. I do not see how this is a NPOV Issue. Keep it posted.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.97.218.77 (talk) 23:48, 13 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  New section/ disaffiliation efforts.  

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message: Hey, I just made a small grammar fix, but wanted to declare that I'm the current Vice Chair of NUS' Democratic Procedures Committee. JustLucas (they/them) (talk) 19:38, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  COI declaration 

message: This article seems like it could do with a decent bit of work. There are some potential issues around NPOV (see my own COI declared above so I am not touching these at all), there's also new history that isn't included. For example the governance reforms passed in 2019 (which also change the information about membership) could be added to the history section. The 2019 reforms completely changed NUS democracy (removing all existing liberation conferences and replacing them with one unified conference), and the legal structure of the organisation.
In 2016 an autonomous trans campaign and conference was created (the conference later merged into the one mentioned above).
I won't edit this article in any non-minor way due to the COI I've already declared, but this might be worth looking at for someone who's interested. JustLucas (they/them) (talk) 19:44, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  New information and redrafting 

message: Do you want to add anything about the current investigations into the NUS over antisemitism allegation? And the UK Gov breaking off contact? Seems like quite a big deal so surprised to see it not in the article - apologies if I am missing it 86.4.245.119 (talk) 14:57, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: There's some material in the "Claims of institutional antisemitic behaviour" subsection, though it's quite short, and it's odd that the name of Shaima Dallali isn't mentioned.  (Of course, no one has ever done anything about the 1970s antisemitism issues which I raised here 17 years ago -- see the top of the page.) AnonMoos (talk) 06:14, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antisemitism