Talk:Cuteness/Archive 1

message: All right, you win, Veinor. Obviously, you're a cat-lover. But you've reminded me that this IS Wikipedia, and it should be fair to both dog-lovers, and cat-lovers (and fox-lovers). I will leave the puppy and the cat on the top of the article, but one question: Which puppy was cuter? Please, anyone! Give me your opinion! Which is cuter and should belong on the top of the article??? I'll be fair! I won't delete the cat! Which puppy is cuter and belongs on the top of the article? Thank you for your opinions. ANNAfoxlover 16:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I never said anything about the cat being cuter. I just was saying that the addition of a puppy at the top on the left introduced severe stylistic problems. Veinor (talk to me) 00:42, 3 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay, thank you. Any more comments? ANNAfoxlover 16:03, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I removed the images. They messed up the talk page formatting so much. --Deskana (ya rly) 01:35, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  You win! 

message: I have replaced a picture of a kitten with not one, but TWO pictures of some of the cutest puppies you've ever seen! Tell me what you think. ANNAfoxlover 00:31, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Puppies - You've gotta LOVE 'EM!!!

message: Let it be said that I, Arkracer, demand more pictures of kittens. --Arkracer 09:48, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ha. Well darn it, the cat on the page right now is pretty freakin cute. -Patstuarttalk|edits 07:33, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Both pics are so cute! :D June-gloom 05:21, 11 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Are you a man? ANNAfoxlover 23:38, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: MORE KITTEN PICTURES

message: That baby is not cute. Someone please replace it with something actually cute. From this page it's apparent that there was a kitty and a puppy that have since been replaced with that ugly baby. Anything from http://cuteoverload.com/ would suffice. --RITZ 01:28, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe, but please don't add a snapshot of yourself in the mirror. BTW, the point of the ugly looking baby is to show that cuteness can possibly be subjective per culture. -Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 18:45, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not cute, I'm adorable. --RITZ 19:56, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm not talking about you, unless you're a sock of . Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 20:30, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.  Get rid of the hideous baby-creature.  I demand a prancing kitten!  As a friend said, babies just look like tiny versions of Meat Loaf.  --GenkiNeko 14:57, 7 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Agreed. Added the  tag in the hope someone will at least try to overcome the ethnocentrism. --zippedmartin 04:47, 12 May 2005 (UTC)

text: Indeed.  The article actually goes to some length to give evidence that the traits described trigger a biological rather than cultural reaction.  Many of the characteristics thought of as "cute" extend to other species in the animal kingdom. Psychonaut 04:34, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Not cute

message: I took away a picture of "a cute moment caught at a wedding" because it was not cute. Tell me what you think.
:What do I think?  I thought it was cute, so I added it.  You can say, you don't "think" it's cute and I will defend your right to your opinion.  But I question your moral imperative to "declare" something is or isn't cute. Unless of course you have a Ph.D in the science of determining what is and isn't cute.  Otherwise, my opinion is that your opinion isn't worth any more than mine. --Mactographer 09:51, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? ANNAfoxlover 16:06, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've got to admit it, but that picture IS cute. It's much cuter than the koala. I'm going to add the image back into the article. 71.38.211.49 18:23, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not even "caught" at a wedding, the table is obviously staged for little kids. I'd say "cute picture portraying kids at a wedding" if anything. On an unrelated note, it's certainly not as cute as kittens and puppies. —Wikibarista 22:05, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikibarista, I hate to burst your bubble.  But I TOOK that photo, and I was AT the wedding.  That table was part of an Iranian style wedding. (It was my first.) Apparently they put all that stuff on a short table as part of their ceremony ... but I don't remember why they do it.  But in any case, it was one of the photographers hired to document the event.  So I can assure you it was NOT a faked photo.  As for whether you think it's "cute" or not, that's another matter. --Mactographer 06:46, 20 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I think you mean "kittens and PUPPIES", right? A•N•N•Afoxlover     PLEASE SIGN HERE, ANYONE! 23:59, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Not cute: Ringbearer

message: The article seems to suggest that the cuteness/neoteny of wolves led humans to domesticate them.  One article I found on the subject suggests instead that training wolves was successful because they retain juvenile characteristics.  This is a somewhat different argument, and wouldn't be relevant to the discussion here, I don't think.  I'll keep looking to see if I can find anything else.  Here's the article in the meanwhile.... NoahB 17:40, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Please be careful. I will be changing the article, but paedomorphosis, progenesis and neoteny are all physiological in nature. They refer to the physical maturation of animals. It does not account for "playfulness" or any other augmented mental state. Thanks --Waterspyder 22:15, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cuteness and domesticity 

message: Came here to read about cuteness, and there's that kitten! Ojw 22:57, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Aaaaghh!!!

message: "A simple way to define cuteness is this: an object is cute if it instills in humans a desire to touch it."
This might be a simple way but it seems too broad a definition. There are many things which humans may like to touch that are not necessarily cute. For instance, I like to touch fleece because it is soft--baby skin is also soft but does that make fleece cute? Also, a person may want to touch someone they are attracted to or feel affectionately towards for reasons beyond cuteness. If I am cold I would like to touch something warm, and so on. Sometimes I desire to touch things out of simple curiosity: in short, we are a tactile species with many reasons for desiring to touch things.--Yak314 15:08, 1 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Instilling a desire to be touched might be too general, but I guess you can define cuteness as this: "an object is cute if it instills in humans a desire to cuddle it."--Ryz05 22:23, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cute and Touch? 

message: Some coverage of literature on development and domestication that relate to the neoteny/cuteness/paedomorphy/kinderschema topic:
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- Cheers, Pete.Hurd 05:03, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kinderschema / Fox farm =

message: I'm no good w/ the formatting. anyone wann point me to a tutorial or somethin I'll do it. OscarMeyerPeener. 06:37, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  there's a giant white space in the middle of the article 

message: Bring it back! That was the best picture EVER!!!!!!
: But look at the widdle puppy! Awww =) 71.64.197.166 23:58, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Noooooo! What happened to the picture of the kitty? 

message: Is there common agreement among everybody but me, that a rottweiler is the epitome of cuteness? Bertilvidet 13:27, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rottweiler 

message: This is a fairly short article compared with the amount of pictures it has. It might be better to remove some pictures so the article doesn't appear too clogged up. --Ryz05 02:48, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  short article, lots of pictures 

message: The article seems to suggest that giant pandas are paedomorphic, which I´m not sure that they are... They apparently have perfectly normal, full grown body proportions, typical of bears in general, or they have not? They have, however, big black "eyespots" or "eye frames", that may psychologically, to humans, work as if they were big eyes, i.e., works more or less as if were paedomorphic, but is just "cute". Well, I suppose, if there are evidence solidly establishing pandas as paedomorphic, I do not know, and I think that would be good to be cited in this or in panda´s article. --Extremophile 04:43, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Pandas are paedomorphic because their adult form look like their baby form, with the black eye patches and everything, though the body proportions might be different. If humans are paedomorphic, then the adult form would have huge eyes like they do in anime.--Ryz05 t 19:27, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Does this imply that being attracted to anime characters may be a sign of pedophilia? Shawnc 15:06, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bahahaha at the above comment! Yeah, it is a sign of pedophilia, especially when said anime character has huge breasts. </sarcasm> Onsmelly 05:43, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  giant pandas and paedomorphism 

message: What happened to the two puppies I put on the top. Someone replaced it with that moron-looking kitten. Who did this? I DEMAND an answer,... NOW!!! ANNAfoxlover 02:58, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, please remain civil and remember that you do not own the page. Veinor (talk to me) 03:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't worry, ANNAfoxlover, I've found the images and placed them back on the article. I hate cats, too. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.210.196.236 (talk) 20:19, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that the multiple images, especially on opposite sides of the page, hurts the page stylistically much more than it enhances it with respect to content. Veinor (talk to me) 20:24, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  AAAAAAAAA! 

message: There is a really bizzare sentence, "This is most famously the case in Japan, where cuteness is a national obsession known as kawaii."  Kawaii is the Japanese word for something which is cute....so this is like saying "This is most famously the case in Japan, where cuteness is a national obsession known as cute."  It dosen't make sence.  I can't handle bizzare grammerness like that so it would be great if someone would sort it out and make it make sence. Cerevox 01:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the sentence is trying to say that the Japanese obsession in question is known in English as kawaii (which is in turn the Japanese term for "cute"). —Psychonaut 03:35, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bizzare Sentence 

message: --Howard the Duck 05:27, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The talk page must be cute too... 

message: The images are just POV inclusion with POV captions. Per WP:NPOV and WP:NOR the images are not appropriate for the article. I will now take them out again.  Cheers. 
Now 'anon', how about you give some good reasons for inclusion? My reasons were in the edit summaries, but you didn't put any reason to put back in, telling me to instead give a reason. Completely ridiculous.  The Behnam 22:38, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Even though that puppy was SO cute! A•N•N•A hi! 23:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The good reason that the anon requested