Talk:DHARMA Initiative stations

message: Surely there should be section the decoy station in the fake village?(84.66.217.75 19:05, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Decoy Station

message: I like the episode template, however I think that instead of ep|1.01, I think we should use something like lost|s01e01. This would allow others to create similar templates for other shows and avoid confusion. Jscarle 14:27, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode Template 

message: I was reading a feng shui book the other day and found diagrams of the solid and broken bars that can be seen round logos like the swan. It seems that the bars themselves represent yin and yang and arranged in different combinations can represent elements and other meanings - need to look into this more - maybe this relates to island lay out too?
DefsHed 87.102.37.160 11:36, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logos for the stations 

message: For the Swan, it says that the area of study is "Electromagnetic Research." (But how do you study research?) Anyway, I think it should be replaced with "Electromagnetism". This would also be much more consistent with the Pearl's are of study, which is labeled as "Psycology". I will change the article to reflect this.
Nick 8 00:57, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Area of Study" line should be consistent 

message: Portions of this article have been copied from The TV IV link without attribution which is a violation of our license.  Please add attributions or remove the copied content.  Thank you. --CygnusTM 19:21, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TV IV Attribution 

message: I guess this place explains the origin of the shark with the DHARMA logo on its tail that attacked the raft, and the mysterious polar bear (both from Season 1). I'm not positive thats where they came from but it would make sense. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.185.166.215 (talk • contribs) 
*This page shouldn't have any speculation or theories. Therefore the line "The station could be the second dotted outline with "C3?" written inside it on the blast door map as it is the only station left to be identified" should be deleted. Anyone else have an opinion? Dudeman1st 08:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I agree, I was really puzzled as to why Jtroust removed almost all information. It was definitely revelaed in the episode 301 that A)There is some kind of zoo B) they are underwater in an aquarium and C)There were bears, sharks and dolphins housed in the area. That is not original research and belongs in the description of the location along with details of the surroundings of the characters. I will ask Jtroust not to delete without discussion.Dudeman1st 01:00, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My edit was made with Wikipedia policy in mind because the description of The Hydra violated almost every policy Wikipedia has in place.  Drawing a correlation between the cages and The Hydra is original research.  Using words such as "apparently", "possibly",  and "it appears" is a good sign that statements are speculative, as were the statements I removed.  Using an image of the shark there is making a connection between The Hydra and the shark, which again is original research.  The last paragraph was an episode synopsis of episode 3x01.  There is a separate article for that.  We should try to be extra vigilant about the information contained within this article because if we don't control it then it gets way out of hand.  Right now, all we know about this station is that it's underwater, some animals once inhabited it, and there are security monitors in it.  That's it. Jtrost (T | C | #) 02:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this could be added. Of course the article should not claim that there were bears and sharks. If it's added then it should be written in the way Dudeman1st did above. That this is information given by characters and not shown. Otherwise I agree with Jtrost about the policies. --Bisco 10:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Added screenshotsDudeman1st 06:53, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's good to have a picture of the Hydra logo. But there shouldn't be more than one. --Bisco 10:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I think the outcome is very good: . I've added some grammar/format corrections. --Bisco 15:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Hydra 

message: Almost all content in the Hydra section has been removed (Revision as of 2006-10-11T14:59:33) by User:Jtrost as being original research and speculations. Still I think, a certain amount of original research is necessary and acceptable for this kind of article. Instead of adding and removing content back and forth, can we maybe discuss the information-to-be-included first here? --Bisco 16:00, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I agree, I was really puzzled as to why Jtroust removed almost all information. It was definitely revelaed in the episode 301 that A)There is some kind of zoo B) they are underwater in an aquarium and C)There were bears, sharks and dolphins housed in the area. That is not original research and belongs in the description of the location along with details of the surroundings of the characters. I will ask Jtroust not to delete without discussion.Dudeman1st 01:00, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My edit was made with Wikipedia policy in mind because the description of The Hydra violated almost every policy Wikipedia has in place.  Drawing a correlation between the cages and The Hydra is original research.  Using words such as "apparently", "possibly",  and "it appears" is a good sign that statements are speculative, as were the statements I removed.  Using an image of the shark there is making a connection between The Hydra and the shark, which again is original research.  The last paragraph was an episode synopsis of episode 3x01.  There is a separate article for that.  We should try to be extra vigilant about the information contained within this article because if we don't control it then it gets way out of hand.  Right now, all we know about this station is that it's underwater, some animals once inhabited it, and there are security monitors in it.  That's it. Jtrost (T | C | #) 02:40, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this could be added. Of course the article should not claim that there were bears and sharks. If it's added then it should be written in the way Dudeman1st did above. That this is information given by characters and not shown. Otherwise I agree with Jtrost about the policies. --Bisco 10:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Added screenshotsDudeman1st 06:53, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's good to have a picture of the Hydra logo. But there shouldn't be more than one. --Bisco 10:27, 12 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I think the outcome is very good: . I've added some grammar/format corrections. --Bisco 15:00, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Acceptable information for the article

message: Do we really know the location of the Pearl? Article says, "Identified, enigmatically, by a dotted outline with "C4?" written inside it on the black light map." I mean the question mark is in the middle of the map, and there are two other "?" Also it is Station 5 but C4? I will go back and watch the episode . . .Is it on the drawn map? Dudeman1st 12:18, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. This seems to be an unverified claim (judging from what is written in the article, I haven't seen this episode). On your other question: station 5 doesn't have to be C5 on the map, as there are "Swan" (station 3) and "C3" written on the map seperately. --Bisco 12:28, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The episode ? (Lost) indicates that the Pearl is rather the big question mark with the dotted line in the center of the map instead of "C4?" or "C3?". --Bisco 13:41, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pearl Location?

message: I added a Notice tag in hopes of avoiding further synopses on this page. LMK what you guys think. If you think it's too unfriendly or want to change the text of the template, I am sure we can hammer that out.Dudeman1st 08:06, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a notice for editors and belongs on the talk page. Someone already moved it here. But a good idea. --Bisco 22:30, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Added notice tag

message: ^ Orientation film for 'Station 3' (QuickTime). does no longer exist. Anyone with at new link ? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.76.210.131 (talk • contribs) 
* Entertainment weekly link doesn't work anymore. --Bisco 02:38, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Should everything at the beginning of the section about the Swan be changed to past tense since the Swan no longer exists? --Kahlfin 02:24, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Swan Is? 

message: Apparently on the blast door map, there's a reference to a station called The Cerberus. It was mentioned on the first UK podcast. Is that true and should it be mentioned here?? — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 14:26, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Cerberus? 

message: I don't recall seeing the mural in any of the episodes. Which episode did it come from? I'm quite surprised I missed it. codu (t/c) 01:16, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's seen in the episode when they first enter the hatch, and several others. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:41, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mural 

message: The numbers for the Swan, Pearl, and Flame have been established on the show, but do we really have sufficient reason to call The Arrow #1?  This apparently comes from DVD extras which got the Swan's number wrong. Tulane97 20:41, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Station Numbers 

message: Since Mittelos Bioscience is fake as stated by Gregg Nations here and here the section "The Islands" and the image next to it should be removed.
--Ummi9999 16:55, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mittelos Bioscience and map 

message: Could someone cite the translation of the hieroglyphs, which translated for me as a command to die? Korvac 12:55, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hieroglyphs 

message: Each initiative station we've seen has a name that relates to the shape of its layout.
The Pearl is roughly a circle when viewed from above
The Arrow is basically a long hall that branches into two areas
The Staff's "V" shape fits into the bottom part of a caduceus (medical emblem)
The Flame, besides blowing up in flames, has a vertical structure to it (basement, ground level, dish on top) like a flame
The Swan seems to have been quite swan-shaped when it was drawn on the blast-door map
and the Hydra is a sprawling complex (compared to other stations) with lots of "tentacle" facilities.
Kd5npf 07:32, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Named for their shapes 

message: Should this be mentioned?--86.43.64.115 14:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Themed around the god [[Apollo]] 

message: Technical question: This show has featured unending volumes of DHARMA products - DHARMA corn, DHARMA beer, DHARMA chips, DHARMA ranch compote, etc. Who makes all these things for ABC? Is there a facory somewhere that is producing industrial-sized quantites of DHARMA stuff for this show? -155.42.191.90 05:56, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: i am guessing there is an office printer somewhere who prints on stickey labels, then the labels are applied to cans and other staff... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.230.229.84 (talk) 15:54, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dharmamart

message: gotta make own articles for every stations —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.68.188.156 (talk) 20:31, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't do it.  This is not a fansite.  I'm too late now.  All of those should be deleted and they will be.  --thedemonhog talk • edits • count 04:50, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  own articles 

message: The article is becoming more and more cramped and untidy, perhaps we should consider breaking it up? 62.136.45.231 12:01, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split 

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