Talk:Constitution of California

message: The new stuff at the bottom, concerning the proposed amendments to allow a constitutional convention by initiative and so forth, is, in my opinion, deservedly there. However, that section is in need of revising. First of all, it looks like it was written with someone with a very obvious opinion (I basically agree with the opinion for what it's worth) which isn't proper for a Wikipedia article, and second of all it is written in a somewhat confusing fashion.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.221.76.231 (talk) 00:15, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  constitutional revision 

message: I've been looking around for the text of the 1879 Costitution of California but I still haven't found it. I received a copy on paper from the State of California by mail but I still haven't found a version of it on the Internet. If any of you knows where to find the 1879 Constitution and its subsequent amendments, please leave a comment.
ICE77 -- 84.223.76.109 15:25, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I second that. It would be interesting to see where the differences lie, even if we gloss over the intervening amendments. kwami (talk) 08:35, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

text: I just got a pdf version of a photocopy, as published in 1880. I'll post it. Didn't bother to ask for the amendments: Calif's constitution is ridiculously flaky. kwami (talk) 06:00, 26 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Well, it's under 'See also', but I don't know how to get it to download properly. It uploaded as an 'image'. kwami (talk) 06:12, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Text of the 1879 Constitution 

message: CALIFORNIA CONSTITUTION
ARTICLE 2  VOTING, INITIATIVE AND REFERENDUM, AND RECALL
SEC. 8.  (a) The initiative is the power of the electors to propose
statutes and amendments to the Constitution and to adopt or reject
them.
   (b) An initiative measure may be proposed by presenting to the
Secretary of State a petition that sets forth the text of the
proposed statute or amendment to the Constitution and is certified to
have been signed by electors equal in number to 5 percent in the
case of a statute, and 8 percent in the case of an amendment to the
Constitution, of the votes for all candidates for Governor at the
last gubernatorial election.
   (c) The Secretary of State shall then submit the measure at the
next general election held at least 131 days after it qualifies or at
any special statewide election held prior to that general election.
The Governor may call a special statewide election for the measure.
   (d) An initiative measure embracing more than one subject may not
be submitted to the electors or have any effect.
   (e) An initiative measure may not include or exclude any political
subdivision of the State from the application or effect of its
provisions based upon approval or disapproval of the initiative
measure, or based upon the casting of a specified percentage of votes
in favor of the measure, by the electors of that political
subdivision.  
   (f) An initiative measure may not contain alternative or
cumulative provisions wherein one or more of those provisions would
become law depending upon the casting of a specified percentage of
votes for or against the measure.
...
SEC. 10.  (a) An initiative statute or referendum approved by a
majority of votes thereon takes effect the day after the election
unless the measure provides otherwise.  If a referendum petition is
filed against a part of a statute the remainder shall not be delayed
from going into effect.
   (b) If provisions of 2 or more measures approved at the same
election conflict, those of the measure receiving the highest
affirmative vote shall prevail.
   (c) The Legislature may amend or repeal referendum statutes.  It
may amend or repeal an initiative statute by another statute that
becomes effective only when approved by the electors unless the
initiative statute permits amendment or repeal without their
approval.
   (d) Prior to circulation of an initiative or referendum petition
for signatures, a copy shall be submitted to the Attorney General who
shall prepare a title and summary of the measure as provided by law.
   (e) The Legislature shall provide the manner in which petitions
shall be circulated, presented, and certified, and measures submitted
to the electors.
SEC. 11.  (a) Initiative and referendum powers may be exercised by
the electors of each city or county under procedures that the
Legislature shall provide.  Except as provided in subdivisions (b)
and (c), this section does not affect a city having a charter.
   (b) A city or county initiative measure may not include or exclude
any part of the city or county from the application or effect of its
provisions based upon approval or disapproval of the initiative
measure, or based upon the casting of a specified percentage of votes
in favor of the measure, by the electors of the city or county or
any part thereof.
   (c) A city or county initiative measure may not contain
alternative or cumulative provisions wherein one or more of those
provisions would become law depending upon the casting of a specified
percentage of votes for or against the measure.
SEC. 12.  No amendment to the Constitution, and no statute proposed
to the electors by the Legislature or by initiative, that names any
individual to hold any office, or names or identifies any private
corporation to perform any function or to have any power or duty, may
be submitted to the electors or have any effect.
 Lou (talk) 02:47, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amending the California constitution by intiative 

message: The California Secretary of State web page currently lists 54 Initiatives and Referenda Cleared for Circulation.  A Wikipedia article on the state's constitution is not for covering such initiatives.--I Use Dial (talk) 23:49, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed Convention section from article. 

message: I've reworked the list of the signers from a cited source (also added). It was in mostly alphabetical order. I've added names as needed and put in alphabetical order.
A few points:
* I moved Pablo de la Guerra from 'G' (Guerra) to 'D' (de la Guerra). The 1850 official source ordered him in that way, so I followed suit.
* The official source has a small violation of alphabetical order, listing Dominguez before Dimmick. I've followed alphabetical order, listing Dimmick first.
* I included Marcy, who signed as secretary, not a delegate. I included him in normal alphabetical order, but with the parenthetical (secretary). Reasonable minds could differ about whether to list him separately, or at the end (or beginning, since his name is above the others on the cited document).
* I cite two sources. Please keep them both. One is official and more authoritative, but often lists only initials instead of first names. The other augments this by providing first names.
TJRC (talk) 23:15, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  1849 signers 

message: needs discussion of, for example, the califonia constitutional right to privacy
All people are by nature free and independent and have inalienable rights.  Among these are enjoying and defending life and liberty, acquiring, possessing, and protecting property, and pursuing and obtaining safety, happiness, and privacy.  California Constitution, Article 1, Section 1 (emphasis added). 
California courts have built on this concept of privacy.  In Valley Bank of Nevada v. Superior Court, 14 Cal. 3d 652 (1975), the Court recognized the right of consumers to financial privacy.  Years later, in Hill v. National Collegiate Athletic Assn, 7 Cal. 4th 1 (1994) the Court established three-part test for privacy interests:  (1) a legally protected privacy interest; (2) a reasonable expectation of privacy in the circumstances; and (3) conduct by defendant constituting a serious invasion of privacy.  
50.90.158.23 (talk) 19:15, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  needs discussion of, for example, the califonia constitutional right to privacy 

message: E.g. from the right to privacy?
I know the 4th Amendment of the US-Constitution is interpreted like that.
Where can I find information on this/discussions?
Broth Merel  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.116.146.99 (talk) 18:09, 23 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does "the people" exclude foreigners? 

message: I need help with this and need it as fast as anyone can help us with it. 97.88.17.34 (talk) 15:30, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cruel and unusual punishment and abuse?   How does this 1 work?   How and where can I find a attorney to help me with this.