Talk:Misirlou

message: I think Greeks of that time when they said "Misirlou" (Μισιρλού), they referred to only the Muslim Egyptian women and they didn't call all the Egyptian women like that. On the other hand, when they referred to a Christian Egyptian woman they called her as "Αιγυπτιώτισσα".Gre regiment (talk) 14:05, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: "Misirlou" refer to Muslim Egyptian woman

message: How come the page carries the Project Judaism tag? The song is clearly of Asia Minor/Eastern Mediterranean folk origin. As with most folk songs, it is not possible to trace its author/composer. I consider it misguided to tag it with any specific ethnic tag, be it Judaic, Greek or Turk. The Gnome 05:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed -- Magioladitis (talk) 21:48, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Misirlou" related to Judaism?"

message: So far as I know the word 'Misirlou' is Turkish. In Ottoman Turkish it was Misirlu and now in modern Turkish it is called Misirli. Certainly it does mean 'Egyptian'. It has nothing to do with the Greek tongue.
:In fact, it is an Arabic word, مصر (as the article indicates). That's what the Egyptians call themselves. Both the Turkish words and the Greek word derive from that. The Hebrew word for Egypt sounds very similar too, it is not a coincidence. 
:In any case, even if the song was called Baklava, since it was originally written in the Greek language and had a Greek lyrics, the name should first be spelled in Greek (with pointers to any relevant word derivation if needed).
:Regards, Sysin 22:45, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Misirlou" Turkish?

message: Sorry, this is not a Moroccan, Egyptian, Armenian (typo, bnd), Lebanese or Persian folk son (I've heard that all). Its a melody so haunting and so familiar that it is hard to believe that it wasn't composed before the beginning of time. But it wasn't. Sysin 12:24, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a folk song 

message: Good find, I heard the recording, it is in fact Misirlu, closer to the Rubanis melody than to Patrinos' or Dale's. Can anyone translate the lyrics? Any more information about the origin/year?
Regards,
m
: The lyrics he sang to this tune are a traditional poem about the prophet Elijah which can be found in many Jewish prayer books among the hymns for Saturday night.  An early version is found in the 12th-century Mahzor Vitry; its current form is no later than the 18th century.  You can hear various tunes to it here.  -- Zsero (talk) 16:45, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nuftali Zvi Margolies Abulafia 

message: Sometimes, literal translation is not the best - Greeks say "φιλί στο στόμα" meaning a kiss on the lips, but when the english speakers say "kiss on the mouth" they mean a French kiss, which does not seem the right translation for this song. 
This reminds me of the e-joke that's going around with expressions such as "He does the duck", "I made them sea" and "To say the figs figs and the tub tub". Sysin 14:16, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stoma / Mouth 

message: I've been trying to follow the link at the bottom to the usaf band recording of the song for a few days now, and it seems to be consistantly broken. Perhaps it should be removed? or is this just me? 66.124.191.55 07:46, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Busted link? 

message: Dear anonymous, thanks for the updates in the translation, they were a great improvement. I did make two reverts: Crazy->wild (crazy could be taken to mean 'insane'); plus I deleted 'inside' which, although used in Greek, sounds redundant in English.sys < in 19:55, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latest translation change 

message: Does anyone have any documentation on this thing about Dick Dale's version being included in Pulp Fiction on Boyd Rice's suggestion?  The only thing I've been able to find is from the faq on Rice's site, the entirety of which is every bit as self-aggrandizing as everything else the man says (example: "Q:  Is it true that RE/Search Publications haven't paid Boyd Rice any royalties in over fifteen years, for his work on Incredibly Strange Films?  A:  Yes.").  Is there, for instance, any word from Tarantino about it?  MrBook 15:02, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boyd Rice? 

message: This is about the link pointing to the KGNU site with the March 2nd, 2007 show which aired almost 15 versions of Misirlou.
I visited the link. There is no longer an option to listen to that broadcast ( I guess they take all broadcasts off), but there is a program listing which has good information about all the renditions aired in that broadcast. I think that link might be a valuable resource for someone trying to collect all renditions of this song (like myself)
Link to Program Listing from the main page of this broadcast
--Kapsio 04:27, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feedback about external link "2-hour radio show" 

message: Can someone confirm this sentence, "The song was rearranged as a solo instrumental rock guitar piece by Dick Dale in 1962?" The reason I ask is that I was listening to the version from "Pulp Fiction" and it doesn't sound like it's just guitar. I'm pretty sure I hear cymbals in the beginning and a piano toward the end. I suppose it could have been rearranged for the movie, but I looked online and couldn't find anything to confirm or deny that. I think the point of the song is for it to sound like it's not just a guitar, but I would be really amazed if it really is just one guitar solo.
107.213.9.96 (talk) 19:25, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't confirm that it's from Riding Giants, but if you have Limewire or something, searching "Misirlou Guitar Hero 2" will be sufficient to be able to hear it. Make sure the album is listed as "Guitar Hero 2" and not "Pulp Fiction." The two versions themselves sound totally different; the only similar thing I hear is the repeating E F G# A B C D# C B or whatever riff. 70.44.155.104 (talk) 00:40, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: At best, it's a cover of this "Riding Giants" version, as evidenced by the "as made famous by Dick Dale" tag in the game (Guitar Hero's euphemism for "cover"). Poiuyt Man talk 03:06, 27 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Found a good sample at Amazon MP3, off Dale's Greatest Hits album released in 1992. The GH2 version is definitely a cover. Poiuyt Man talk 05:30, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Dick Dale's version 

message: Misirlou song sounds very much like the Habanera Aria.  I would think that Bizet incorporated the already existing melody in his opera. 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTuNUZEFBJk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJLyZqETuBU unsigned by anonymous 
Interesting theory - although I fail to hear the resemblance. There is a similarity in structure, but its' a very common one. In any case, when comparing Marilyn Horne's performance to Michalis Patrinos' all similarities are lost. All the versions of Misirlou that are common today derive from Rubanis' version. Rubanis was a well-trained music instructor living in New York, and must have had access to to the musical knowledge such a situation would imply; he was trying to set ethnic music to a modern (jazz) style; so it would not be surprising if he was influenced by Bizet or Dvorak, who had previously set ethnic music to a classical style. The fact that all the so-called "middle eastern folk" versions of Misirlu clearly derive from Rubanis' work, further proves Patrinos' originality. sys < in 09:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncanny resemblence to Bizet's Carmen Habanera 

message: As Amrstation points out, the Arabic verse in the song is badly mispronounced. This is probably because (a) Patrinos  and his audience did not speak Arabic and/or (b) "Yahaleli" needs to have exactly 5 syllables to fit the rhythm. The same sentence is very frequently used in Greek rembetiko songs (orientalism is a frequent theme) and is more frequently rendered "yaleleli". Regards sys < in 08:04, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Arabic Lyrics

message: The article states: The 1987 comedy film "Back to the Beach" features a surf-rock performance of Misirlou in front of wind machines by Dick Dale and Stevie Ray Vaughn.
Dick Dale and Stevie Ray Vaughan play the very different song "Pipeline" in that movie, but I don't think they play "Miserlou."  It's not listed on the soundtrack in IMDB.  If they did play "Miserlou," I would very much like to hear it!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Misterlevel (talk • contribs) 14:13, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Misirlou" in "Back to the Beach"? 

message: I don't understand the whole orientation of the argumentation of the article. Actually it doesn't make any sense. Greece is a European country located in the western part of the world. Greek culture is the foundation (or at least an important part) of all of the western culture. Then some Greek dude decides to write a song about an Egyptian girl, in a style that may or not resemble some middle-eastern style and he is automatically called middle-eastern, Moroccan, Arab, Jew, etc. ...? Does this mean that when Bizet wrote Carmen he automatically became Spanish? Or that when Homer composed his Iliad, he became a Trojan? There is more to it, in Egypt the girl wouldn't be referred to as Misirlou, she would simply be "the girl". And probably wouldn't be anything out of the ordinary.
This song is a perfect example of western culture. I strongly suggest a review of the whole argument orientation of the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.27.59.134 (talk) 16:21, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  This song is a perfect example of western culture!!! 

message: This needs verification but I believe MISIRLOU is used as the theme song for HBO's series ROME (and if it's not actually MISIRLOU, the theme is heavily inspired by MISIRLOU).Bigmaestro (talk) 17:34, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use as theme song for HBO series? 

message: I agree with the previous comment, this song is eerily similar to (if not the same as) the theme song for HBO'S ROME.  And as was also stated in the previous comment, the main article should mention that this song was used in episode 2x11 of AMC's MAD MEN (episode title "The Jet Set") 96.28.136.215 (talk) 03:05, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Use as theme song for HBO series? 

message: "(a style that originated with the Greek refugees from Turkey)" Clearly Rebetika was performed in Izmir/Smyrna, prior to their being any refugees - see rebetiko and is still performed today there.
User: seanblanton
Dear Ladies and Gentlemen,
to help your brainstorming on the origin of word "misirlou" please listen to the song concerned on the discs bellow 
1.	Misirlou (Vogue, 1952):
Misirlou - sang by Leo Fuld in Jiddish,
2.	Balkans en folie / Crazy balkans : POZA (Air Mail Music, 2003): 
Жёпа небритая (Shopa nebritaja = Unshaved Arse) - sang by Alik Kopit in Russian
81.182.154.19 (talk) 19:23, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  2nd sentence incorrect - not from Greek refugees 

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