Talk:1872 United States presidential election

message: Why is there no mention of Victoria Woodhull, the first woman to run for President?  Although she did not receive a significant portion of the popular vote and received no electoral votes, the trivia factor is worth adding, here, I feel. Ari 19:13, 20 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: We apparently didn't know about her - please add a mention, thanks! Stan 03:10, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Victoria Woodhull 

message: Wikipedia's research has not yet been sufficient to determine the pairings of 4 electoral votes in Missouri; therefore, the possible tickets are listed with the minimum and maximum possible number of electoral votes each.
It is my theory that the following was the ticket breakdown of Missouri.
Hendricks/Brown - 6
Brown/Julian - 5
Brown/Palmer - 3
Davis/Groesbeck - 1
I don't have backup for this evidence-wise, here's a few things worth mentioning
#1 - Missouri electors could not vote for Brown for President and Brown for Vice President.
Therefore, the votes for B. Gratz Brown for Vice President were cast with Thomas Hendricks receiving the Presidential vote or David Davis.
The votes for B. Gratz Brown for President were cast with either Charles W. Julian, John M. Palmer or William Groesbeck receiving the Vice Presidential vote.
Since the person who recieved the vote for Vice President with Hendricks in four other states was Brown, I feel it is reasonable to put a Hendricks/Brown vote in Missouri as the most reasonable.
I feel it's also important to note the text of Article Two in regards to electors, just for reference and since it is misintrepreted by some.
"The Electors shall meet in their respective States, and vote by Ballot for two persons, of whom one at least shall not lie an Inhabitant of the same State with themselves."
This forbids Brown/Brown votes in Missouri. This would not forbid Davis/Palmer votes.
Now to the final nine votes.
I feel a pairing of Brown with Palmer and Julian is the most likely as all three were prominent Liberal Republicans. Brown was the Governor of Missouri, Palmer was the Governor of Illinois, Julian had just served 10 years as a Congressman from Indiana. Davis was a Supreme Court justice and Groesbeck was a less prominent person than either Julian or Palmer.
If anybody can provide some more insight into this, i'm sure we can get it resolved soon.
--RobbieFal 21:45, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  EC in Missouri 

message: This information would be worth adding if it can be verified, I don't know more about it than what I found at the link:
"The following Presidential tickets may be regarded as already in the field:
"Anti-secret societies: For President, Charles Francis Adams of Mass.; for Vice President, Charles F. Howard of IL
"Temperance [evidently another name for the Prohibition Party]: For President, James Black of Penn.; for Vice President, John Russell of Mich.
"Labor Reform: For President, David Davis of Ill.; for Vice President, Joel Parker of N.J.
"Liberal Republicans: For President, Horace Greeley of N.Y.; for Vice President B. Gratz Brown, of Mo.
"Workingmen: For President, Ulysses S. Grant of Ill.,; for Vice President, Henry Wilson of Mass.
"There remain three nominating conventions to be held, viz.: The National Republican at Philadelphia, June 5. Reunion and Reform, Baltimore, July 8. Democratic Reform: Baltimore, July 9." http://www.victoria-woodhull.com/wc061500.htm Schizombie 06:15, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Other candidates?

message: So if Horace Greeley died before the electoral college vote (therefore presumably being ineligible for voting), how many votes would he have gotten had he not died? I.E., how many states did he carry? PolarisSLBM 03:02, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Electoral Votes 

message: The Straight-Out Democratic Party nominee for Vice-President in 1872 was John Quincy Adams II not Charles Francis Adams according to the New York Times October 3, 1872 page 5. The Lewiston Evening Journal of September 5, 1872 also identifies John Quincy Adams as the nominee, not Charles Adams. The Chicago Tribune of September 5, 1872 also states that the nominee was John Quincy Adams and not Charles Adams. The Atlanta Constitution of September 11, 1872 page 2 also confirms that the straight-Out Democratic Party Vice-Presidential nominee was John Quincy Adams and not Charles Francis Adams.65.94.60.47 01:47, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bourbon Democratic Party Vice-President 

message: In tallying the electoral votes for the 1872 Presidential election, Congress refused to count the votes of seventeen electors in three states, as follows:
ARKANSAS – Grant won the state according to the official returns. However the Democrats charged that their had been massive vote fraud. According to the New York Times of December 6, 1872 the Democratic elector candidiates met and cast six votes for Gratz Brown for President and six votes for Nathaniel Banks for Vice-President. These votes were submitted to Congress. However Congress refused to count either set of electoral votes from Arkansas. 
GEORGIA – Three votes for Greeley were not counted because he was dead.
LOUISIANA – Governor Warmoth, a Liberal Republican and Greeley supporter, replaced members of the State Returning Board with his own appointees. The Warmoth board counted the votes and announced the result as: Greeley 66,467, Grant 59,975. They certified eight Greeley electors. The Greeley electors cast eight abstaining votes for President and eight votes for Gratz Brown for Vice-President. The dismissed members of the returning board counted the votes themselves and came up with a different result: Grant 71,663, Greeley 57,029. They certified eight Grant electors. Congress refused to count any electoral votes from Louisiana.65.94.58.107 02:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Electoral Votes not counted 

message: I'm interested in voter turnout.  How many registered voters were there in 1872?  Is that information available?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.65.208.144 (talk) 18:32, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Andrew Mason 

message: The article is self-contradictory, in places saying Grant was from Illinois and in other places saying he was from Ohio.  I know one's home state can sometimes be ambiguous, but could the article settle on one or the other? 24.64.165.129 (talk) 16:30, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grant's home state 

message: Table on right shows:
               Grant           Greeley
Popular vote   3,598,235       3,834,111 
Percentage     55.6%           43.8% 
...self-contradictory figures.Dduff442 (talk) 03:28, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular vote: Error on Page 

message: Concerning the infobox, we need a 'note' of somekind to show that Greeley's 66 electoral votes were scattered. GoodDay (talk) 06:38, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  Greeley only got 3 electoral votes (per the map), but the box says 66.  This is both confusing and inaccurate.  Either the vote number needs to be changed, or the picture/names need to be changed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.96.24.156 (talk) 14:05, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox 

message: The claim under the Campaign section that a drunken Benjamin Gratz Brown attempted to butter a watermelon during a campaign rally is sourced to a site called everything2.com. As near as I can tell, this looks like some sort of self-publication site that doesn't follow any academic writing standards regarding things such as sources, so I don't think this qualifies as a reliable source. The article on Brown himself days nothing about his alcoholism. Without more reliable sources, I think this bit should be removed. 62.78.230.2 (talk) 15:16, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: . The dubiously sourced content has been removed. Thanks for the observation.--JayJasper (talk) 19:00, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious source 

message: The claim is that 177 votes were needed to win. This apparently was based on the votes for Arkansas and Louisiana being discarded, thus reducing the majority.
During the joint session of Congress for the counting of electoral votes, after the counting of votes, the vice-president declared that the majority was 184. See, Congressional Globe, vol. 46 (February 12, 1873), p. 1306.
98.180.88.86 (talk) 18:41, 12 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Votes needed to win in the "Table of results" 

message: The election results subtract each candidates percentages from the sum of only the two top candidates.
Added together, the result vote percentages are greater than 100%.
I really don't know how to fix this, but I really hope someone can.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:404:CF80:1C40:7CD4:F2DB:A284:6F76 (talk) 19:05, 16 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Results chart percentages and margins are catastrophically wrong 

message: Arkansas and Louisiana are shown on the map. They were invalidated. 2402:8100:3968:D9F:4866:4DAD:CD2F:4493 (talk) 14:12, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map error 

message: How come Greeley is given the Democratic color in the various states when a set of colors for a Liberal Republican candidate exist? I am aware he was nominated by the Democrats as well, but the map color should depend on the primary party the candidate was nominated under. Talthiel (talk) 19:05, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Liberal Republican color