Talk:Princess Ingrid Alexandra of Norway

message: The ahnentafel is meant to mention all of her ancestors not to nitpick. The only reason for it to incomplete would be if there was no knowledge. I would understand removing it from her mother's article but not here. If Prince George of Cambridge's article mentions ancestors not notable enough to have articles there is no point to single out Princess Ingrid Alexandra and her brother.--The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 00:37, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Firstly, the information is unsourced and could easily be entirely incorrect and/or made-up. That alone qualifies it for instant removal, given that this is a BLP. Secondly, I have taken time to improve the article by removing all unsourced and poorly sourced information from it, and inserting high-quality sources. I don't see why the ahnentafel should be an exception to the rule. Thirdly, I have no idea how a reader could benefit from knowing that her mother's great-grandmother was an Eli Olafsdatter Kjosås. What useful information does that convey? Even if the reader is given the name, what does he or she know about that woman? Who was she, what did she do? Was she a housewife, a women's rights activist, a woman of letters? The reader is not given anything but the name, which by itself means nothing. Wikipedia is not a genealogy directory. Surtsicna (talk) 00:52, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You are not convincing me about the notability your only argument that I can't fight is the unsourced part. If I find source for every individual I will add it back in. Queen Elizabeth II even have unnotable ancestors on her mother's yet we include them without source. --The Emperor's New Spy (talk) 00:54, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Other crap exists. You will surely find many articles that don't comply with WP:RS and WP:BLP, but that should not affect the quality of this one. I am curious about your arguments against my third point, however; what useful information does the name of the person's mother's father's mother's father convey to the reader? How does the reader benefit from knowing that a certain Amalie Kathrine Schølberg was the subject's mother's father's mother's mother? What makes it more than trivia? Surtsicna (talk) 01:05, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur with The Emperor's New Spy that readers often seem to want to know as much genealogical ancestry of future monarchs as possible, since their ancestry, and how they are treated as a result thereof, is the most distinctive feature of the lives of most royalty. You've been clear that you don't understand or support readers wanting to know this information, but the fact that you and I don't find it interesting doesn't mean others don't or shouldn't. Nor is the info ipso facto un-encyclopedic, since as noted other royalty do have their ancestry included here and I haven't seen other significant objections to its encyclopedic value. I have tagged the ancestry section as in need of sources, to give editors interested in preserving it a reasonable opportunity to provide sources for the deceased relatives in question. FactStraight (talk) 01:19, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand your and The Emperor's New Spy's point, but the sources can be provided (assuming reliable ones exist) without keeping OR in a BLP and without ruining the article with tags. While revamping the article, I deleted much more important information – such as her being in the line of succession to the British throne – because it was unsourced, and I did not restore it until I found sources. I knew that was true, but it was still unsourced; there is no way I can know that the ahnentafel was not entirely made-up. WP:BLP is quite clear about things like these. Surtsicna (talk) 10:27, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
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message: I've checked through the bios of other second in lines who are grandchildren of the monarch. Many of them don't have the monarch mentioned. GoodDay (talk) 14:53, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: So what? Surtsicna (talk) 16:17, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't need to mention King Harald V in the lead. She's going to be the future Queen-regnant of Norway. Not the future King Harald V. GoodDay (talk) 16:20, 24 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It is her grandfather who is the current monarch, not her father. Members of the royal family are defined by their relationship to a monarch, reigning or deceased. Surtsicna (talk) 22:12, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see it as necessary, unless the person is heir-apparent to the throne. Anyways, I'm not gonna bother arguing about it any further, unless others get involved. You've got WP:BRD on your side. GoodDay (talk) 00:15, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
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message: User:84.65.249.94 Please explain why you continue to ignore the sources and revert my edits? I would like to avoid an WP:EDITWAR. Richiepip (talk) 18:57, 23 January 2022 (UTC)
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