Talk:Elfdalian/Archive 1

message: What is an "AV- word order in coordinated clauses with deleted subjects"? I only associate AV with agent-verb, which doesn't seem to make much sense in this context. Pittmirg 09:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  AV- word order

message: Is this statement really correct?
:There are fewer differences between it and standard Swedish than between British English and American English,
When I read information from Nordic language institute in Uppsala I found out that they are quite different. // Rogper 07:22, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The statement is very untrue. Just to take a quick example; the Dalecarlian sentence ulum dalska means in Swedish vi ska tala dalska. You will not find such big differences between American and British English. • 辻斬り 13:42, 18 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: "England and America are two countries separated by a common language." GB Shaw Robert Greer (talk) 22:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differences 

message: Mr Isotalo, you did the following edit:
:http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=%C3%84lvdalsm%C3%A5l&diff=74303750&oldid=73682137
where you e.g. changed the statement
:"Recently there have been attempts to create a written standard language for Elfdalian through the establishment of the Ulum Dalska association with the help of the Råðdjärum (lit. 'Let us confer') group of Swedish linguists such as Östen Dahl."
into
:"Recently there have been attempts to create a written standard for Älvdalsmål through the establishment of the association Ulum Dalska with the help of the groupRåðdjärum (lit. 'Let us confer') and prominent Swedish linguists such as Östen Dahl."
i.e., the original (implicitly) stated fact that Östen Dahl is a member of Råðdjärum is changed into a (implicit) statement that Östen Dahl is not a member of the mentioned group. If you check the reference http://www.alvdalen.se/alvdalska/ (given in the article) you'll see the following statement:
:"Råðdjärum, Älvdalska språkrådet började sin verksamhet i augusti 2004. Det består av fem ledamöter: Östen Dahl, Gunnar Nyström, Yair Sapir, Lars Steensland och Inga-Britt Petersson."
i.e., Östen Dahl is a member of Råðdjärum! This was the reference I used when originally stating that he's a member of the group. Now, if you condiser your given information to be more reliable than mine, please cite your sources. Your statements need to be verifiable or we can't possible know if you're being neutral or not.
Jens Persson (130.242.128.119 21:26, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Östen Dahl of Råðdjärum

message: There are two letters - one with A plus ogonek and one with Y - that have boxes next to them.  What are these letters supposed to be?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.109.201.179 (talk) 01:12, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A-ogonek with a box next to it is probably A-ogonek with a ring above - it's pronounced [õ:] i.e. [o:] nasalized. The Y with a box next to it is probably Y-ogonek, i.e. nasalized Y. The trouble is the font you have installed on your computer. I recommend installing f.ex. the free DejaVu fonts, which can be found at the DejaVu wiki. They can be considered "OpenSource font standard" kind of. Said: Rursus ☻ 07:31, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unicode is giving me grief on this article 

message: -The grammar section needs some wikilinks. In Writing systems, the relation between Germanic runes, Dalecarlian alphabet, and Elfdalian runes is not clear. "Råðdjärum's Orthography" is unclearly written, and its relation to the aforementioned systems is not spelled out. I have no doubt that a lot of the External links are helpful--but they need to be brought in as references.
Hafspajen (talk) 09:22, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  More to do