Talk:Irish War of Independence

message: The first section of Origins of the Conflict starts by saying this: "Since the 1870s, Irish nationalists in the Irish Parliamentary Party (IPP) had been demanding Home Rule, or self-government, from Britain, while not ruling out eventual complete independence. Fringe organisations, such as Arthur Griffith's Sinn Féin, instead argued for some form of immediate Irish independence, but they were in a small minority." That's about all it says about the origins. So what were the Irish grievances? This piece says nothing. The Origins section needs a subsection describing the state of the country in the decades before the Easter Rising. We need to see something about the absentee landlords, the state of the Democracy and why the Irish felt it was inadequate, and the socio-economic conditions. — MiguelMunoz (talk) 06:52, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins of the Conflict 

message: This edit by  (Fixed a plethora of grammatical errors and added clarity to the article) gives the impression that the editor fed the article through Microsoft Word grammar check or equivalent, and made any changes the machine suggested, without looking at the sense of the sentences, or their context, or even the variety of English in use. For instance:
#"republican party Sinn Féin" is fine; "the" does not need to be added
#"acting on their own initiative" is correct; removing "own" changes the meaning
#"an RIC barracks" is correct, not "a RIC barracks" – see "Use Hiberno-English" at the top of the edit page
#"an incident occurred on 21 January 1919" is not preceded by a full stop, so shouldn't start with a capital letter
#"the RICs" is meaningless
#"enforcing its own law, maintaining its own armed forces and collecting its own taxes" is correct – see above
#"an 'IRA' meeting, which in fact consisted of Irish and foreign journalists" is correct; the "in fact" is important
#"afterwards" and "spiralling" are correct – again, Hiberno-English
#"it is not by reason of their religion, but rather because they are under suspicion as Loyalist" is part of a quotation; it should not be changed
#"good will" is not the same thing as "goodwill"
#commas have been added where not necessary, and some have been added where they are inappropriate.
I have reverted. Scolaire (talk) 17:10, 3 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the revert. The Banner talk 19:46, 3 December 2023 (UTC)

text: Think we have a problem here. Primergrey is insisting that Treaty is incorrect and backs that up with insults. The Banner talk 18:00, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I left a note on his talk page, not noticing that you already had. I also mentioned that the article falls under 1RR at the Troubles ArbCom. From scanning his talk page, it's clear that he's on a mission to change to lowercase across Wikipedia, and isn't interested in collaboration or consensus.  Scolaire (talk) 18:37, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  A plethora of grammatical errors 

message: Hello, I haven't used talk pages before so apologies if this is the wrong format. I'm confused by the phrase "Sinn Féin was proclaimed in County Cork" in the summary. Is it missing a word (i.e. "Sinn Féin was proclaimed the rightful government of County Cork")? If not, what does it mean to proclaim Sinn Féin? I certainly don't know, and I doubt that the average English-speaking reader knows either.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.172.17.58 (talk) 00:36, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wiktionary: in a historical context it means "make [something] the subject of an official proclamation bringing it within the scope of emergency powers".  Scolaire (talk) 10:19, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi  174.172.17.58. Great pick up on the usage of the word proclaimed. In the dictionary the definition reads: "4. [Rare] to outlaw, ban or otherwise restrict by a proclamation." I will insert an explanation. Thanks, Palisades1 (talk) 17:24, 12 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Proclaimed