Talk:Homosexuality and the Anglican Communion

message: The subsections of section 2 make it sound as if the subsequent deliberations of the Communion concerning the issue of homosexuality were prompted by the consecration of Bishop Robinson.  This is untrue, as the content of the subsections indicate.  I think that a general section dealing with the precipitating causes of these deliberations would be in order, with the Lambeth meetings and Windsor Report, etc. following in a subsequent section.  Thoughts anyone? Fishhead64 17:37, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Subsections of section 2

message: This article should be updated with information about the recent primates' meeting in Tanzania and the ultimatum sent to the Episcopal Church USA, as discussed here and here.  I'd do it myself, but I'm not entirely clear on the precise details of the communique, and it's important to be precise about these things.  Anyone up to the challenge? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 02:25, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update request 

message: The nomination of this article for Anglicanism Collaboration of the Month for March was unsuccessful.  The COTM is William Wilberforce.  It has been automatically renominated for April.  Thanks! Fishhead64 16:52, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The renomination of this article for Anglicanism Collaboration of the Month for April was successful.  Editors are invited to begin assessing the needs of this article and improving it. Fishhead64 02:37, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: COTM nomination

message: The introduction to this article seems far too long- nearly a whole page before the contents box. Shouldn't most of the discussion in the introduction be elsewhere? Epeeist smudge 10:17, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think four paragraphs of LEAD may be a little longer than average for an article this size, but probably not ridiculously long. At any rate, it should be a summary of everything that follows in the rest of the article. —Angr 10:52, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Structure 

message: A lot of the information in the "Stance of churches" section seems to come from http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/3226753.stm. I'd rather this section be rewritten as regular prose paragraphs highlighting the contrasting views in a general way rather than a list of churches and what they may or may not have said officially. We can still provide a link to the BBC article for further reading or as a reference. —Angr 18:14, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Stance of churches" section 

message: I am removing some statements that have been tagged "[citation needed]" for several months and for which I have not been able to find supporting sources:
#These different standards have led Rowan Williams, the Archbishop of Canterbury and current leader of the Communion, to call them contradictory. He has also noted in his interpretation of the Bible there are no passages condemning monogamous same-sex relationships. However, Williams has become increasingly cautious in his viewpoints in relation to this issue since his appointment to the English primacy, although he has a history of engagement with the liberal Affirming Catholicism movement and has consistently stated that the Anglican Church needs to engage with gay and lesbian people. (the last statement here is sourced, but without the rest of the paragraph, it makes little sense to include it)
#As of 2004, other provinces such as the Episcopal Church in the USA, the Episcopal Anglican Church of Brazil, the Anglican Church of Mexico, the Scottish Episcopal Church and the Anglican Church of Southern Africa permitted the ordination of non-celibate gay clergy and the blessing of same-sex unions, with similar reactions. (I'm only removing the "with similar reactions", as I believe that's all the source was requested for. Sources for the statements that these provinces permit ordination of gay clergy and bless same-sex unions don't belong in the lead section of this article.) 
#Underscoring the divisions within Anglicanism, 14 of the 35 Primates present [at the meeting in Dromantine] refused to take Communion with the group because of their provinces' decisions to partially or completely break communion with the US and Canadian churches.
#A number of Anglican provinces, including the second-largest in membership (but largest in church attendance), the Church of Nigeria, threatened to leave the communion if a non-celibate gay man were allowed to be consecrated a bishop. In addition, a minority of priests and congregations within the Episcopal Church were also considering leaving the communion as result.
#Archbishop Peter Akinola has been one of the most outspoken critics of ordination of gay clergy and of blessing same-sex unions within in the Anglican Communion.
Once sources for these statements are found, they can be reincorporated into the article. —Angr 19:01, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm also removing the unsourced statement that the Episcopal Anglican Church of Brazil is "originally Low Church, but now migrating to a Broad Church/High Church style of liturgy", as it doesn't seem to be particularly relevant anyway. —Angr 14:15, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
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message: If the following is not already spoken to in this article, can someone please incorporate it? It was removed from the lead of Christianity and homosexuality because it is too denomination specific.
:Within Anglicanism, which still officially regards homosexual sex as sinful, there are theologians who do not regard homosexual acts as sinful. See the work of Rowan Williams, John Spong, Living in Sin? Anglicanism has, therefore, experienced deep divisions over this topic, the most notable example being the consecration of Gene Robinson as a bishop in the Episcopal Church in the United States of America, who was the first openly gay bishop in the Communion. It should be noted that the Episcopal Church in the United States, as of a recent Bishops' convocation in Texas, determined that homosexual Episcopalians were full and equal participants in the life of the church, and that "If that means that others reject us and communion with us, as some have already done, we must with great regret and sorrow accept their decision."Episcopal Resolution, Navasota, TX, Associated Press, posted on 30 March 2007. It should also be mentioned that the current Archbishop of Canterbury, Rowan Williams has argued that "the scriptural text conservatives use to argue against homosexuality is misread."Reuters, posted 17 April 2007 These two examples demonstrate significant acceptance of homosexuality by Anglican clergy and also point to additional movement on this issue for the denomination in the future.
Thanks!LCP 20:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Text that needs to be included 

message: This seems rather important. A.Z. 04:49, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No more gay bishops in the US 

message: Is there a serious reason why someone keeps removing the LGBT/Queer Studies box? It was taken out as "vandalism", which is really a wildly inappropriate accusation. I wasn't the one who put it in, but if there are no objections raised, I'll put it back in. Carolynparrishfan 19:14, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  LGBT box 

message: The Statement regarding the Church in New Zealand is incorrect:
Official policy remains that of the Lambeth Conference (all homosexual activity is sin). The Maori and Pasifika tikanga are committed to this. Any participation leads to immediate summary withdrawals of any Bishop's licences, tantamount to immediate Excommunication.
Bishop's licences are granted to clergy, not laity, therefore withdrawing a license isn't excommunication. If a priest loses his/her license, he/she is "inhibited" from celebrating the sacraments. They cannot celebrate communion, marry or bury. 
Excommunication means that someone cannot even receive the sacraments. These are entirely two different things.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.28.232.164 (talk) 21:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Church in New Zealand

message: I also notice that Bishop Terry Brown of the Diocese of Malaita (Solomon Islands)of the Church of the Province of Melanesia isn't mentioned. He is openly gay and attended the 1998 Lambeth Conference long before Gene Robinson was consecrated.
See:  
  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.28.232.164 (talk) 21:28, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 2nd openly gay bishop

message: Could someone in the know add a section in which the decisive arguments are specified; including any texts referred to, along with interpretation(s)?
It is surprising, to say the least, that such a section is not already included. As it stands this article only lists a "summary of issues" followed by indications of who stands where; yet is without indication either as to why these are considered to be the 'issues', or why these are the stands taken.
WigglyWoggly (talk) 06:53, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Arguments - The Texts.. 

message: * WashingtonPost:Episcopal Bishops Can Bless Gay Unions
Epicsopal bishops can bless gay unions. GLGermann (talk) 09:57, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blessings for homosexual unions allowed 

message: In December 2010 open lesbian anglican bishop Mary Douglas Glasspool was elcted in Los Angeles. 92.252.105.2 (talk) 20:32, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Election of anglican bishop [[Mary Douglas Glasspool]] 

message: Reverend Mally Lloyd and the Reverend Katherine Ragsdale, two high-level Episcopal priests, married in Massachusetts on New Year’s Day 2011. 
* Advocate:Two_Lesbian_Priests_Tie_the_Knot 89.166.206.35 (talk) 02:44, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boston 

message: * (Wales)
Gay clergy is in Church in Wales allowed. In 2011, Church in Wales gives pensions for gay partners of anglican clergy. The Church of England General Synod approved the change in 2010.  
* Pinknews:Welsh clerics to consider pensions for gay partners  188.118.130.100 (talk) 17:13, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Church in Wales]] 

message: This article fails to go back before 1990, whereas the issue has been rattling around the CofE since the 1950s, and there were various crises over the years that informed the present situation: the response to decriminalisation in the 60s, the attitude of bishops then and since (Don't ask / don't tell).  As a result this article is much less than encyclopedic and need a radical reworking. Ender's Shadow Snr (talk) 10:30, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Far too short a time period 

message: Could somebody familiar with the issues update this part please? It is now after 2008.
: Homosexuality, specifically the consecration of Gene Robinson, is anticipated to be a major issue at the 2008 Lambeth Conference. A group of conservative bishops opposed to homosexual ordination and marriage, including most of the "global south", will be gathering in June 2008 at the Global Anglican Future Conference.[1]
(no WP account so posting as anon) 86.147.118.13 (talk) 19:47, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs updating 

message: In 2013, Church of England plans blessing of gay couples.
* Advocate.com:Church England plans blessing gay couples 
188.96.190.196 (talk) 02:20, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
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