Template talk:CATV

message: We really, really need to split this up by country. Kirjtc2 15:45, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I definitely agree, It's huge and difficult to read. I propose the template be split into multiple templates. Perhaps by continent and providers or, as suggested below, provider with continent? It will, of course, take some work to replace the template on the over 100 television providers currently on it.-- Squeak 22:50, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have done one for the Americas, Europe and the rest of the World, what do you think. London UK  (talk) 19:19, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

text:  Looks great, except that Globalsat belongs in the Americas template, not Europe (it's a Beasilian company). -- azumanga 23:46, 20 January 2007 (UTC)

text:  And Bearcat mentions below that he has done one for .Riick 03:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  To ease maintenance, I advise against splitting both by continent and by country.  To see why: suppose a user wants to add a Canadian cable TV company.  As it stands now, he has to update the CATV Canada template, the CATV Americas template, and the CATV template.  If he fails to do all three, who is going to catch it?  It sounds like a maintenance nightmare! Riick 03:45, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think your assumption here is a bit faulty — not all three sets of templates are actually needed. We only need one of three things: a set of "cable companies by country" templates, or a set of "cable companies by continent" templates", or a single international "all cable companies worldwide" template. Yeah, sure, we've got a lot of alternative proposals going on at the moment, but you're incorrectly assuming that they will necessarily all continue to exist and be used. In reality, whichever one we decide to go with, the other two would no longer be needed, and therefore could be discontinued or even deleted — so there are no maintenance nightmares to worry about. If we had separate templates for each country or continent, what actual need would a merged worldwide template serve anymore? And accordingly why would it matter if that one wasn't getting updated? Or, alternatively, if it was still needed, say, as a master list on cable television, why couldn't it just provide links to the individual country or continent templates instead of listing every individual cable company? And I'll quite happily delete the Canada template if the by-continent approach is preferred. But I do agree that the single worldwide template is getting too huge and out of control to be useful anymore. Bearcat 17:33, 7 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I think these templates are going to get huge even if they are split.  Consider for example the scores of fiber optic providers listed in Fiber_to_the_premises#Deployment_History.  I'm sure these are just a fraction of the the actual number of providers in existence, yet only one is listed on this template.  If we extrapolate and assume that this template can grow that much in every category, then it seems possible that merely splitting may not quite do the trick. Instead of splitting (or in addition to splitting), perhaps these could be "folded" into some sort of tree display, like the one used in the "Template messages" template?  Alternatively, would it be appropriate to implement these as a portal? Riick 03:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  CaribDigita has implemented a possible alternative to splitting.  Please see discussion under the heading "I just posted one suggestion. Re: the complaint about the size of this template". Riick 00:03, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Split

message: Anyone else think we should put other categories such as fiber (like Verizon's FIOS) on the template? Masterpjz9 04:56, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: other than cable and satellite

message: Since VOOM is now defunct, should it still be included in this template? - AlexDW 19:05, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[VOOM]] 

message: We don't need to split this page. It will be ugly and messy. - Jet123 5:36, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: DO NOT SPLIT

message: How about a separation of cable and satellite into two separate templates.... the list is getting a bit big...
—Preceding unsigned comment added by Expediter (talk • contribs) 2006-10-20T06:13:14
: I'd suggest that it would be better for each country or region to have its own separate template; I don't see why that has to any be "uglier" or "messier" than this template is going to be if we expand it any further. I've already created a Canadian template at . Bearcat 02:23, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion

message: No point splitting.
You want to split it by country. That would make it difficult to manage, and if a certain company has a base in MORE that ONE country???
--Rsrikanth05 (talk) 11:47, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, a split would be messy and simply create a multiude of new templates, with some articles requiring a number rather than the current one. Rangoon11 (talk) 12:51, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  No point Splitting