Talk:Kairos

message: I believe this section should be disambiguated.
--Arcking 20:51, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The retreat is too secretive/spiritual to really talk about on Wikipedia. I know WP is not censored, but not giving away what really happens on the retreats is somewhat important, since people may not fully under stand the context of some events. However, the retreat is different from what the Article is really talking about, because most of this article examines the "term" or definition part of Kairos.  perhaps there can be an extra section? --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk   02:42, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

text: No argument besides that of personal/national security or legality issues justifies censorship of any kind.  Since the Kairos retreat is neither copyrighted or legally protected nor a personal/national security issue, there is no reason why the contents of the retreat should not be published.  To not publish this information is against the very premise upon which Wikipedia is built.
--Evil666 23:32, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh, Good luck finding any reliable sources. Chances are the article will likely receive a Speedy Deletion for Original Research and user Attribution. In essence, writing an article about a secretive religious retreat using speculation and rumors stands against Jimbo and Wikipedia's policies and ideologies.  ;-) --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk   03:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I could write out a 10 section article on Kairos retreats. Unfortunately, it would all be original research from my dual experience in them. There just aren't any decent references. I agree that Wikipedia is not censored, but everyone else is censoring themselves not to talk about it, so it's not being mentioned in any sources. Haha, the way the world works... нмŵוτнτ 23:49, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Retreat

message: To me, this article reads poorly and seems unstructured. I think there is some encyclopaedic content here, but it's poorly organised and obscured amongst a lot of dictionary-definition-type information and listing of organisations with Kairos in the name - the latter of which should be moved to a stub linked from a disambiguation page or omitted entirely if non-notable. --Rogerb67 (talk) 00:50, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article may require restructuring 

message: The first of the two references, Mark Freier (2006) "Time Measured by Kairos and Kronos",  appears to be a self-published article.  According to the guidelines for sourcing, "...self-published media—whether books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, blogs, personal pages on social networking sites, Internet forum postings, or tweets—are largely not acceptable" (WP:SPS).  There are numerous scholarly articles addressing this topic and I therefore suggest that the Freier article should be replaced by a reference to a reputably published source.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abathologist (talk • contribs) 21:24, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems reasonable.  One good book to draw from for this article could be "You Talkin' To Me? A History of Rhetoric From Aristotle To Obama" by Sam Leith, a columnist for the Guardian. His explanation of the rhetorical concept of kairos seemed quite robust to me. I believe he published a revised version for the American market called "Words Like Loaded Pistols," because the original had too many Brit-specific cultural allusions. I'm not sure whether "Loaded Pistols" has the same passage on "kairos", though.  YarLucebith (talk) 00:31, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable Source: Freier Article 

message: Hello. I'm an undergraduate student, and I had to research and edit a page for my Rhetorical Process class. I chose Kairos and added some information to the "Modern rhetorical definition" section of the page. I would really appreciate any feedback on my contribution. Thanks. Rkg12 05:27, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feedback on edits to "Modern rhetorical definition" section 

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