Talk:Herbert M. Shelton

message: I have just removed some bad edits from Dchmelik. The same user has also been editing the orthopathy and list of orthopaths articles. Shelton was not a nurse scientist. He was not a qualified PhD. There also seemed to be messing up of the categories. Psychologist Guy (talk) 01:45, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Dr Shelton was a D.N.Sc (which means nurse scientist) and probably was a qualified PhD (though I don't know on what; ) he attended one or two schools that have sites ending in .edu (so have to follow  strict USA federal government educational quality standards.) My edits tend to be good but all yours I've seen have been pretty horrible--dchmelik (t|c) 02:39, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Again, you make assumptions, add personal opinion and unreferenced claims. He was not a qualified PhD. Maybe you should read the diploma mill article. Shelton was a quack who advertised his credentials as "D. P., N. D., D. C., D. N. T., D. N. Sc., D. N. Ph., D. N. Litt, Ph.D., D. Orthp." , . That is hilarious. Yet there is no record of him obtaining these degrees. If you read the historical literature they have documented his degrees. In reality he received a "degree in naturopathy from Benedict Lust's American School of Naturopathy, and later, earned a doctorate from the American School of Chiropractic." (Source Vegetarian America: A History, p. 160). Neither of these are legitimate degrees. Benedict Lust was not a medical doctor and the "American School of Chiropractic" was a naturopathic school. You are linking to the nurse scientist article but have clearly not read it. Shelton was not a qualified nurse scientist. Psychologist Guy (talk) 17:34, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course I've read the articles. Dr Shelton wasn't a standard medicine medical doctor but not a 'quack'. Higher educational quality assurance/accreditation postdates the greatest modern philosopher-scientist-mathematicians (Drs Gottfried Leibniz, Leonard Euler, Carl Gauss, Kurt Gödel, whom people cite) and Dr Shelton, so claims on such basis of (il)legitimacy beforehand would be a category error.  It's possible The American School of Chiropractic didn't become accredited and/or people researched and concluded it wouldn't have been (others might have different opinion)... nevertheless, unless I can double-check its case, I won't re-add his information relating to that school.--dchmelik (t|c) 17:50, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of edits

message: Dchmelik added to the article "In 1984 He founded The American Natural Hygiene Society (in 2000s renamed National Health Association.)" In 1984? Shelton died on January 1, 1985. It was founded in 1948 . Also the American Natural Hygiene Society was not renamed National Health Association in the 2000s, it was renamed in 1998 , . Psychologist Guy (talk) 23:05, 14 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I made mistakes (one obvious typographical error and the other because site name change from anhs.org to healthscience.org took longer than the organization name change)... you should've told me on my own talk page and/or fixed them; not that relevant for an article talk page when if you notice a mistake you can just remove: talk pages are mostly for  discussing improvements than describing every mistake everyone makes.--dchmelik (t|c) 20:16, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Wrong. This is about changes to the article, not editor behavior. So it belongs here, not on your Talk page. --Hob Gadling (talk) 10:08, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: No one disputes confirmed typographical/recollection errors nor (other than the person who made them) cares.--dchmelik (t|c) 09:54, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: More false and unsourced information added by Dchmelik