Talk:Collaboration

message: 'Collaborative decision making' used to link here, but I have changed it to link to Group decision making, are there any objections?'".
. Collaboration is a general term and that article is quite general -- it talks about kibbutzes, classical music written in collaboration, Black Mountain College, yadda yadda. And Collaborative decision making is a somewhat technical business term, and Group decision making is more focused on technical aspects of collaborative decision making. Tal.yaron (talk) 14:11, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds fair :) AdamCaputo (talk) 16:55, 25 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: redirection of collaborative decision making

message: the first sentence -- collaboration is a recursive process ... -- is it? not iterative? or any other kind of process? I'm going to mark it with a reference needed flag. Minitrue (talk) 14:34, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recursive? 

message: This section needs to expand and we more articles about this --Nerd42 15:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Musical collaboration 

message: The following link does not work, at least for me. So, I moved it from the article page to this one. If you can fix it, please do. Keesiewonder 15:05, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link Issues 

message: An observation I have and that I've heard is that the ability to collaborate on projects, in person or in an online setting, is an expected skill for students as they begin their master's degree. However, little instruction is provided on how this collaboration is supposed to be accomplished for those who may not be accustomed to working this way. Somewhere, perhaps in one of the Wiki environments, it would be nice to find list of guidelines or resources for those of us who would like to become successful collaborators. Keesiewonder 18:10, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collaboration in Graduate Work 

message: More research into the nature of collaboration is needed to answer such questions as:
*How does collaboration differ from cooperation? (dictionary definitions are generally more or less equivalent)  
*What qualifies as a collaboration? (is Wikipedia a collaboration in the same way that a work of art is when two artists collaborate face-to-face? and for that matter, does a family, city, nation or species qualify? Is the vivid representation of collaborative activity on the internet inducing changes in the very definition of art and authorship? Just as the printing press, photography and the telegraph once inspired the Futurists, Cubists and Surrealists, we are beginning to see the emergence of new kinds of collective creative practice such as Wigglism, Submodernism, etc.)
*What are the defining principles or elements of this process? (understanding these might help to draw conclusions on the previous questions)
Currently there exists no unifying general theory of collaboration.
:In an attempt to answer the first question see comments below at Talk:Collaboration#a rethink. Also see the Talk:General_theory_of_collaboration page. MLWilson 21:40, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Questions 

message: I have recently started an art project http://www.onesimplepixel.com - it is a collaborative art project.  Furthermore, I now believe I will spend the next 10 years of my life pursuing collaborative art.  To my surprise, there really isn't much on the subject or the history of it.
Given that music is listed here, shouldn't art?  I would be more than happy to help find resources - given I am currently studying these concepts.
I'll make sure to watch this page.
Onesimplehuman 02:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collaborative Art? 

message: This article begins thus:
:: Collaboration is the process wherein units work together to achieve outcomes for shared stakeholders, quicker and more cost effectively than if they worked on their own, without having to change the "how" codes of any of the participating Units.
This is supposed to be English Wikipedia, written in English.  Why all these buzzwords?  Collaboration is not a concept understood ONLY by whichever freak communities are versed in buzzwords like this.
Are there really some people who take this kind of writing seriously?  Is it beyond medical science to treat their condition? Michael Hardy 19:53, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  crap 

message: Collaboration is about people not maths.  It is about people who see the world differently working together without attacking each other’s view of the world.  Maybe you should try it?  Or maybe you think you have the answers to everything in the world.....so that you can write all definitions on every word ever created.....and if anyone should disagree they cannot be taken seriously.....and are beyond medical help.  Maybe you can then write a definition on god.  I know....can I suggest a definition of god is Michael Hardy.  He knows everything. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.26.185 (talk • contribs) 
: OK, you can be sarcastic too.  But would you really suggest that "collaboration" should be defined only via the nomenclature of one relatively narrow field, when collaboration occurs everywhere? Michael Hardy 01:32, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  can I suggest a definition of god is Michael Hardy. He knows everything. 

message: Seriously, the initial sentence seems calculated to incite feelings of revulsion in readers not initiated into an esoteric jargon. Michael Hardy 01:35, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  repugnant jargon 

message: In fact....having looked at the oxford english dictionary......collaborate is in fact people doing work....that is it.  Coordination and cooperation are processes that have a wider reference....while collaboration is focussed on work only.  So I have added that in....then moved on to the 2 distinct applications ie to force people to conform to a common way of working or to enable people to learn from each other.  I think this is more accurate.
:Actually, the Oxford English, Second Edition says 'Collaboration: United labour, co-operation; esp. in literary, artistic, or scientific work.' (Might be issues with abridged versions?..) The first etymological references of collaboration, collaborate and collaborator also are all in reference to literary collaboration - I'm of the impression that it is the creative component which distinguishes collaboration from cooperation. Also, I'm unclear as to what the reference to forcing people to conform means - are there examples? Mark Elliott 08:51, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: From my understanding, the difference between collaboration and cooperation may be best descibed by collaboration being a form of cooperation. To cooperate is to participate jointly via complementary action toward one end. Collaboration is such an action. What makes collaboration a separate concept is it is specifically the recursive interaction of knowledge and engagement between two or individuals toward an end. One that collaborates is one that mutually exchanges information and learns toward a goal. Collaboration is a cooperative form of behavior that is knowledge-focused. MLWilson 21:26, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I'd think something along these lines would be very appropriate in the opening section of the article. Currently it doesn't seem to impart anything specific about the process or its outcomes - rather it seems focused on how collaboration can be employed as opposed to what it actually is. Mark Elliott 07:47, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  a rethink 

message: I will be editing collaboration and other related pages for an undergraduate thesis project. Because the project and pages are about collaboration, this would be a great place for us all to converse, please collaborate with me and provide feedback.
--Parhamr 22:17, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  April 2007 updates 

message: Please watch the General theory of collaboration and it's discussion page. I am going to put a little time in compiling some of the integrative theories of collaboration by scholars. This page seems to miss the mark on what collaboration is and is not in my opinion. Will help contribute more later. MLWilson 05:47, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the summary paragraph of this article could be improved and better reflect what collaboration is. Perhaps we can discuss here first before changing. Any proposals, thoughts? MLWilson 21:36, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good—important things to express are that collaboration is constructed, collaboration requires pressure/competition to become high-performance, leadership is not critical. —Parhamr 07:04, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  General Theory of Collaboration 

message: I removed the following text; it rivals the content actually about collaboration, in size. Also, since it has a link at the top of the page, does the content belong on this page? --Parhamr 07:44, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed—is this necessary? 

message: June 7, 2007 User:87.228.129.57 made this change: (→Academia - Piaget in fact did theorise cooperation. See Piaget, J. (1997/1995) "Sociological Studies" and Piaget, J. (1932) The Moral Judgment of the child)
:I appreciate your contribution but your argument is not clear enough. The Piaget assertion comes from learning community; I had read it to say that his direct contribution to constructivism asserted the "individual was the 'unit of instruction' and the focus of research." Also, please note that cooperation and collaboration are related but distinctly different—all collaboration requires cooperation but not all cooperation requires collaboration.
:I see three possible outcomes to this:
#Your change is accepted: this means that Piaget's direct contribution to constructivism did not assert the above (the appropriate changes should also be made to learning community)
#A clarifying statement is added: what do you think it should say? I am guessing it might say "however, Piaget's work outside constructivism included cooperation"
#No change: if the current statement is accurate
:—Parhamr 09:03, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Piaget's contributions 

message: I just discovered a research document that may be of great use to this article: Globalisation in the network of science in 2005: The diffusion of international collaboration and the formation of a core group. I will try to read it and synthesize some prose for this article. I encourage you all to do the same! —Parhamr 17:30, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collaboration research document 

message: As a major contributor to this article, I have—by default—introduced systematic bias. It would be excellent if more non-western (and particularly non-US) views and events were added to this article; well-cited, of course! —Parhamr 00:11, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Worldwide view needed 

message: The changes made to the "definition" of collaboration September 13, 2007-September 22, 2007 both added to and took away from the definition. For example, the previous version better highlighted the interaction of knowledge itself and mutual learning which is so central to collaboration and separates it from just cooperation or knowledge sharing. However, the changes made with the September 22 version simplify the theoretical definition making it easier to understand. The latest changes I made to it here were an attempt to have it read better while again highlighting the learning component. I also moved building consensus after sharing knowledge since this is typically the result. Three points I would like to discuss:
# I am not sure we need to have "structured" in the definition. Personally, I have not seen this as a central tenet or attribute that describes what collaboration is. Must collaboration be structured?
# In regards to the idea that collaboration is a process and that this is not contentious -- true, however, some define it different such as a function. This is why I thought it may be a good idea to reference this as the definition develops. Maybe we are past this, however.
# The definition may be able to be improved by somehow better highlighting the central attributes of collaboration: recursive interaction of knowledge and mutual learning. MLWilson 15:50, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent edits! Thank you for your contributions. Regarding #1—yes, it is structured. This is a primary difference between cooperation and collaboration. This word alludes to the establishment of goals and objectives as structure of the process. The structure does not have to be terribly formal, but it is structure nonetheless. —Parhamr 19:28, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! I have a few more minor thoughts based on what you said: My understanding of the primary differences between cooperation and collaboration is that collaboration is a form of cooperation. It is also a recursive, knowledge-intensive process. Cooperation, however, does not necessarily include collaboration, i.e., the recursive knowledge interaction among individuals. In other words, one might say cooperation is a necessary condition to collaboration but not vice versa. Also, it is my opinion, based on definitions of collaboration, that collaboration as a process could be informal and not "structured" -- at least in the sense of formalization. Look at Wikipedia for example, or even this running dialogue. Again, maybe the concept I am using of "structured" is not the same. Look forward to the continued discussion on collaboration -- the article has come a long way! MLWilson 01:02, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. Don't forget that Wikipedia has rules, though. Our actions are loosely organized but we subscribe to the overall idea. Even the most basics—social and cultural structures—are cause for some level of structure. You are reading into it too literally :-) —Parhamr 03:36, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collaboration Definition in Summary 

message: I added some "noreferences" and "citations missing" tags just now. This article seems to have been a very interesting and ambitious outline and also the object of a clean up effort but just in case the tags might help though I am not entirely sure. OK in advance from my point of view to remove, change or move any of my edits. Best wishes. -Susanlesch 11:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations

message: This article needs a "disambiguation" page. "Collaborators" is also the name of a Battlestar Galactica episode. As there are also two disambiguation links at the top of the page, this would already warrant a separate page to redirect to other articles.
I have no idea how to do it myself, unfortunately.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.132.76.119 (talk) 02:00, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation 

message: I removed the link to the Swedish article :sv:Kollaboratör. First of all, the swedish word kollaboratör is translated collaborator and not collaboration. But more importantly; the term is only used in a derogatory fashion. The swedish article states: "A collaborator is a person that is cooperating with an occupying power, or another, towards the own country, hostile military force". As I understand it, this can be expressed in English as well, but it can have a much wider meaning.
I also suspect that this is the case with other interwiki links in the article.
:: The same problem with the Dutch page: collaboration is translated as 'samenwerken' (this wiki does not exist) Timboliu (talk) 10:03, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  interwiki links 

message: I was thinking of adding an additional entry into the community organization section. I'm going to try to incorporate various examples of indigenous American community forms of organization, so as to show how collaboration is seen across different cultural contexts. I have a fair amount of sources to back up these claims as well, so feel free to let me know what any of you think about this.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nbaratza (talk • contribs) 21:21, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  additional entry into the community organization 

message: Please have a look and see if there is anything salvageable for use in this article. ~Kvng (talk) 18:27, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: [[General theory of collaboration]]

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