Talk:Siddi

message: "Siddis are categorized into two groups: the Zanji Siddis were brought to Pakistan and India by the Arabs as soldiers during their first Islamic invasion of the sub-continent in 712 A.D"
The Arabs came as traders and the primary invaders in the subcontinent were turks, persians what have you...and what does "Islamic invasion" mean? They were just territorial annexations and the Jihad cause was not espoused. 121.240.34.114 (talk) 04:53, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
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message: "The remaining 30% of Siddi had Indian or Near Eastern-associated clades, including haplogroups H, L, J and P.[4]" The problem with that is that they are probably all originally 'negrito' haplogroups. Haplogroup P common among the Semang and the Andamanese. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negrito#Origins Haplogroups D, C, F left Africa about 50,000 years ago. Later haplogroups evolved among the Negritos in Asia. Female haplogroup L3 generated M1, the oldest female haplogroup outside of Africa. The Andamanese for instance have haplogroup M32. MrSativa (talk) 00:17, 24 April 2017 (UTC)
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message: I removed this text dump which is apparently for a program of unexplained relevance.
Details of an international conference with a large number of speakers on the Siddis, being held in Goa in January 2006. Needs to be wikified:
The Siddis of India and the African Diasporas in Asia
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For more details contact Jean-Pierre Angenot jpangenot@hotmail.com
Goa, India, from 9th to 20th of January 2006 at The
International Centre, Goa, India [see:
www.internationalcentregoa.com ]
Promoted by
* THE TADIA SOCIETY [The Society for Research, Culture, Education and Development of the African Diaspora in Asia (TADIA)], associated with the UNESCO Slave Route Project, India.
The Siddi or Siddhi people are Indians of mainly North-East
and East African descent, whose ancestors arrived in India
from the 1st to the 19th century. The Siddis came from Africa
as slaves, soldiers, sailors and merchants. The earliest
African presence in India was on the Konkani Coast as a
result of the Arab slave trade. The 17th century saw the
largest influx of Siddis, as many were sold to Hindu princes
by Arab and Portuguese slave traders, and mainly used as
domestic servants and farm labourers. Some Siddi slaves
escaped into the forests to form their own communities.
Siddis occasionally rose to prominence — a few rulers of
Bengal in the 15th century were Siddis, and during the
British colonial period Siddis attained military and
governmental leadership positions. Rough estimates put their
population at 20 to 30 thousand, mostly living in the state
of Gujarat. Since they are generally dark-skinned, they
occupy the bottom rung of the Indian caste system, and exist
mainly on the margins of Indian society. Siddis have adopted
the indigenous religions (most Siddis are Muslim), food, and
customs of India; though remnants of their African heritage
are retained in their music. Siddis are employed mainly in
the agricultural sector. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siddi
Co-promoted by
* FEDERAL UNIVERSITY OF Rondônia - UNIR, Porto Velho, Brazil 
* Moulana AZAD NATIONAL URDU UNIVERSITY - MANUU, Hyderabad, India 
* National Law School of India University - NLSIU, Bangalore, India 
* KARNATAK UNIVERSITY - KUD, Dharwad, India 
* UNIVERSITY OF ALCALA, Afro-Ibero-American Studies, Madrid
* University of California at Los Angeles - UCLA, Los Angeles, USA
* Institute for Technical Support to Third World Countries, Brasília
· ALIANCA BRASIL-ÍNDIA, Londrina, Brazil
Sponsored by
* FORD FOUNDATION, New Delhi
* THE PRINCE CLAUS FUND FOR CULTURE AND DEVELOPMENT, Amsterdam
* CALOUSTE GULBENKIAN FOUNDATION, Lisbon
CO-ORGANISERS:
* Kiran Kamal Prasad (The TADIA Society & Jeeta Vimukti 
  Karnataka Organisation, Bangalore, India)
* Jean-Pierre Angenot (Federal University of Rondônia, Brazil)
Members of the organiSation steering committee :
* Francis Guntipilly (The TADIA Society & Centre Ashirvad, 
  Bangalore, Karnataka, India)
* Rustom Bharucha (Writer, Kolkata, West Bengal, India)
* Geralda de Lima Angenot (CEPLA Research Centre, Federal 
  University of Rondonia, Guajara-Mirim, Brazil)
* Amy Catlin-Jairazbhoy (University of California at 
  Los Angeles, USA) 
PROGRAMME SCHEDULE and TIMETABLE:
* Academic Discourses: 10-14 January 2006
* Interaction day between Scholars and Siddis
  15 January 2006
* Festival of African and Afro-diasporic 
  Song, Music, Dance and Drama: 15-18 January 2006
* Festival of African and Afro-diasporic Cinema:
  15-19 January 2006
* Workshop on Socio-Economic Development Strategies
  for Siddis: 16-19 January 2006
* History Tour: from 20 January 2006
MONDAY 9 JANUARY 2006
AFTERNOON 
From 12.00      : ARRIVAL OF DELEGATES AT INTERNATIONAL CENTRE, GOA
13.00           : LUNCH                                                 
14.00 - 18.00   : REGISTRATION
from 14.00      : EXPOSITION OF AFRICAN AND AFRO-DIASPORIC PICTURES
                  (private collection of Edouard Vincle)
19.00           : WELCOME RECEPTION 
                : performance of  the Sidi Goma, Black Sufis of
                  Gujarat musical group **.
Tuesday 10 JANUARY 2006
08.00            : BREAKFAST
08.45 - 09.45    : REGISTRATION
09.45 - 11.00    : OPENING CEREMONY
Master of Ceremony Francis Guntipilly (The TADIA Society &
Centre Ashirvad, Bangalore, India). Chairperson: Jean-Pierre
Angenot (Federal University of Rondônia, Brazil) Chief Guest:
Margaret Alva, Winner of the 2005 International Nelson
Mandela Award for Minority Empowerment, United Nations, New
York. Ali Moussa Iye, Chief, UNESCO Slave Route Project,
Division of Cultural Policies and Intercultural Dialogue,
Paris Miguel Neneve, International Assessor of the Rector,
Federal University of Rondonia, Brazil. Luis Beltran , UNESCO
Chair on Afro-Ibero-American Studies, University of Alcala de
Henares, Madrid, Spain. Clodomir Santos de Morais, founder of
the Institute for Technical Support to Third World Countries,
Brasilia, Brazil. John Kosta Siddi, President, TADIA Society,
a Project associated to the UNESCO Slave Route Project,
India. Farida Al Mumbrik Sidi, Vice-President, TADIA Society.
Kiran Kamal Prasad, co-organiser of the conference
11.30 - 12.45    :  Keynote address 1 (Hall A) Chairperson
and presenter: Rustom Bharucha (writer, Kolkata, India) *
Gwyn Campbell McGill University, Montreal, Canada "The
Afro-Asian diaspora: Myth or reality?"
14.00 – 16.00: THE WESTWARDS AND THE EASTWARDS AFRICAN
DIASPORAS (Hall A) Chairperson: Luis Beltran, UNESCO chair on
Afro-Ibero-American Studies, University of Alcala, Madrid,
Spain * Carlos Moore, The University of the West Indies,
Republic of Trinidad & Tobago "Toward a new Pan-Africanism
for a globalized world" * Sheila S. Walker Afrodiaspora,
Inc., Washington, DC, USA “Mozambique kingdoms with Congo
queens: The unsuspected pan-africanism of the Americas”.
* Carole Boyce Davies African-New World Studies, Florida
International University, Miami, USA. "The encyclopedia of
the African diaspora: An overview". * Claudio C. Pinheiro
Federal University of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil "Translating
worlds, inventing empires: Reflections on colonial projects,
language and slavery at the early modernity Portugal"
16.30 - 17.30    : GENERAL DISCUSSION, Coordinator: Rustom
Bharucha (Writer, Kolkata, India)
20.30            : VIDEO SESSION:  AISHA BILKHAIR KHALIFA,
"Spirit Possession Practices in the United Arab Emirates".
Benigna Zimba, "Slave Routes and Oral Tradition in
Southeastern Africa: History in Images" (60 minutes).
WEDNESDAY 11 JanUARY 2006
09.00 - 10.00    :  Keynote address 2 (Hall A)
Chairperson: Jean-Pierre Angenot (Federal University of
Rondonia, Brazil) Ali Moussa Iye, Chief, UNESCO Slave Route
Project, Division of Cultural Policies and Intercultural
Dialogue, Paris. "The UNESCO Slave Route Project: New
orientations".
10.30 - 13.00    : THE SIDDIS IN ANDHRA PRADESH (Hall A)
Chairperson: Bonginkhosi A. Bhutana Sikhondze (University of
Swaziland, Kwalusemi). Fitzroy Andre Baptiste, University of
West Indies, Mona, Jamaica, West Indies. "African-descended
communities in the Indian sub-continent: from invisibility to
visibility". Ababu Minda Yimene Max-Plank Institute, Halle,
Germany "Dynamics of ethnic identity among the Siddis of
Hyderabad". Rekha Pande, Moulana Azad National Urdu
University, Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India. "The
socio-cultural world of the Siddi women of Hyderabad",
Shahida Murtaza Moulana Azad National Urdu University,
Hyderabad, Andhra Pradesh, India. "The status of girls among
the African diaspora in Hyderabad". Nicholas Glean.
University of Sunderland, United Kingdom. "Deccani historical
discourse and the Siddis: An introductory examination of the
representation of the Siddis in historical literature". 
14.30 - 16.30    :  THE AFRICAN DIASPORA IN THE NEAR EAST AND
IN THE MIDDLE EAST (Hall A) Chairperson: Manolo Florentino
(Federal University of Rio de Janeiro, Brazil).   Aisha
Bilkhair Khalifa Harvard University, Boston, USA "Secrecy and
the circulation of knowledge among African musical groups in
the United Arab Emirates". Ehud R. Toledano Tel-Aviv
University, Israel "Taming the new with the familiar:
Enslaved Africans in the Ottoman empire". Galia Sabar Tel
Aviv University, Israel "New forms of slavery or unique
communities of international migrant workers? Sub-Saharan
Africans in Israel: 1984-2004". Esma Durugonul Akdeniz
University, Antalya, Turkey "Afro-Turks in the region of
Antalya"
or 
14.30 - 16.30    : HYBRID AFRICAN IDENTITIES (Hall B)
Chairperson: Teotônio R. de Souza (Universidade Lusófona de
Humanidades e Tecnologias, Portugal)  Catherine M. Miller
IREMAM-CNRS, Aix-en-Provence, France "An African diaspora
within an Afro-Arab country : West Africans in the Sudan"
Benigna Zimba Eduardo Mondlane University, Maputo, Mozambique
"Consumption of female cloth:  An aspect of Mozambique and
Indian cultures (early century to ca. 1950s)". Miguel Neneve
Federal University of Rondonia, Brazil "Literature as means
of decolonization: African literature in Portuguese" Michael
Weeder St Philip's Rectory, Capetown, South Africa "Naming
the dead: the challenges surrounding the uncovering of a
slave burial ground in Cape Town".
17.00 - 18.30    : THE AFRICAN DIASPORA IN THE NEAR EAST AND
IN THE MIDDLE EAST 2 (Hall A) Chairperson: Ineke van Kessel
(African Studies Centre, Leiden, Netherlands) Niambi
Cacchioli University of London, Birkbeck College, United
Kingdom "The hidden narrative: Representations of African
slavery in Persian memoir literature".  Fitzroy Andre
Baptiste University of West Indies, Mona, Jamaica, West
Indies "Habshis in late 18th C.E. Afghanistan: A research
note" Vittorio Morabito University of Catane, Italy "Contacts
between Ethiopia, Yemen and India in 17th century"
or
17.00 - 18.00    : AFRO-ASIAN INTERFACES (Hall B)
Chairperson: Eva Maria Sebestyen (Eotvos Lorand University,
Budapest, Hungary). Jonathan R. Walz University of Florida,
Urbana, USA "Afroasian interfaces: Archeological perspectives
in connections and diaspora". Edouard Vincke Belgian
Cooperation Ministry, Brussels, Belgium "Gestures with the
hands: An anthropological reading and a method for an
intercultural comparison (India-Mozambique-Congo)". Jeanette
Pinto Sophia College & The Heras Institute of Indian History
and Culture, Mumbai, India "African Slavery and Christian
humanism in Portuguese Goa". 
18.30 - 19.30    :  GENERAL DISCUSSION, Coordinator: Rustom
Bharucha (Writer, Kolkata, India). 
20.30            :  VIDEO SESSION : Amy Catlin-Jairazbhoy
"From Africa to India: Sidi Music in the Indian Ocean
Diaspora" (74 minutes). "The Sidi Malunga Project:
Rejuvenation of the African Musical Bow in India" (46
minutes)
THURSDAY 12 JANUARY 2006
09.00 - 10.00    :  Keynote address 3 (Hall A) Chairperson:
Francis Guntipilly (TADIA Society & Centre Ashirvad,
Bangalore, India)  Teotonio R. De Souza Universidade
Lusofona de Humanidades e Tecnologias, Portugal "”Alforria"
before abolition of slavery in Goa: 17th-18th Centuries”
10.30 - 13.00    : THE SIDDIS IN MAHARASHTRA (Hall A)
Chairperson: Maude Dikobe (University of Botswana, Gaborone,
Botswana) * Beheroze Shroff University of California at
Irvine, USA "Sidis in Bombay" * John E. McLeod University of
Louisville, USA "Shifting marriage-patterns among the Sidis
of Janjira and Sachin" * Anuradha Bhattacharjee Delhi "Jews
in Siddi Janjira" * Ivan Vander biesen Catholic University of
Leuven, Belgium "The economic basis for acculturation
processes in the 19th century Indian Ocean: the importance of
the Omani-Zanzibar connection with the Indian Subcontinent" *
Clifford J. Pereira Black & Asian Studies Association,
London, United Kingdom "Return to Africa: The 'Bombay
Africans' and the Freretown settlement". 
14.30 - 16.30    : THE AFRICAN DIASPORA IN THE INDIAN OCEAN
(Hall A) Chairperson: Oziel Marques da Silva (Federal
University of Rondonia, Brazil) * Abdul Sheriff & Arnold J.
Temu Zanzibar Museums The Open University of Tanzania,
Dar-Es-Salaam, Tanzania "The 'Zanzibaris', an African
diaspora in South Africa: a puzzle" * Gwyn Campbell McGill
University, Montreal, Canada "The significance of the
Malagasy slave trade in the Indian Ocean" * Beatrice Nicolini
Catholic University of the Sacred Heart, Milan, Italy "A
glimpse to Indian merchant communities in Zanzibar during
1800: the Topan family through British archive sources" *
Bonginkhosi Sikhondze University of Swaziland, Kwaluseni,
Swaziland "The Indian ocean theatrical social, economic and
politial dynamics contribution to the Indian and Atlantic
African diaspora in the 16th and 19th centuries". 
or
14.30 - 16.30    : THE AFRICAN DIASPORA IN LATIN AMERICA AND
THE CARRIBEAN (Hall B) Chairperson: Geralda de Lima Angenot
(CEPLA Research Center, Federal University of Rondonia) *
Luis Beltran UNESCO chair on Afro-Ibero-American Studies,
University of Alcalá, Madrid, Spain "Iberian American African
heritage" * Maude Dikobe University of Botswana, Gaborone,
Botswana "Crossing borders: Gender and ethnicity in calypso,
the case of Dropatee Ramogonnai" * Kabengele Munanga
University of Sao Paulo, Brazil "The contemporary descendants
of enslaved Africans in Brazil: Current situation and
problems" * Manolo Florentino Federal University of Rio de
Janeiro, Brazil "Comparative aspects of the traffic of
Africans to Brazil (18th – 19th Centuries)". 
17.00 - 18.30    :  THE AFRICAN DIASPORA IN THE INDIAN OCEAN
2 (Hall A) Chairperson: Esma Durugönül (Aknediz University,
Antalya, Turkey) * Tracy Sharpley-Whiting Vanderbilt
University, Nashville, USA "Reunion Island, the black
diaspora, and the new Europe". * Edward L. Powe Researcher,
Madison, USA "Songoru, a black leader in the Maldives". *
Daniella Police Michel University of Mauritius, Reduit,
Mauritius "From the slave of African descent to Mauritian
Creole: the new anthropos". 
or
17.00 - 18.30    : THE AFRICAN DIASPORA IN LATIN AMERICA AND
THE CARRIBEAN 2 (Hall B) Chairperson: Kabengele Munanga
(University of São Paulo, Brazil). * Eva M. Sebestyen Eotvos
Lorand University, Budapest, Hungary "Angolan roots in a
North East Brazilian umbanda cult" * Catherine Barbara Kempf
& Mary L. Galvao Federal University of Rondonia,
Guajara-Mirim, Brazil "Fortune and misfortune of a 'mocambo'
in the Bahian Reconcavo" * Eduardo Judas Barros State
University of Londrina, NEAA, Brazil "African diaspora in
Brasil: The negro front and the black movement" Mary L.
Galvao & Catherine Barbara Kempf State University of Bahia,
Salvador, Brazil & Federal University of Rondonia "Quilombola
midwives of the Bahian Reconcavo: Language, rituals and
symbols". 
18.30 - 19.00     :  GENERAL DISCUSSION, Coordinator: Rustom
Bharucha (Writer, Kolkata, India)
20.30             : 4 BOOK LAUNCHES: (a) Kiran Kamal Prasad
(2006). In Search of an Identity: An Ethnographic Study of
the Siddis in Karnataka. Bangalore: Jana Jagrati Prakashana.
179 pp. (b) Kenneth X. Robbins & John E. McLeod, eds. (2006)
African Elites in India: Habshi Amarat. Ahmedabad: Mapin
Publishers (c) Nicolini, Beatrice. Makran, Oman and Zanzibar:
Three-Terminal Cultural Corridor in the Western Indian Ocean
(1799-1856). Islam in Africa, 3. Leiden, Holland: Brill
Academic Publishers. (d) Benigna Zimba, Edward Alpers & Allen
Isaacman (2005). Slave Routes and Oral Tradition in
Southeastern Africa. FILSOM Entertaiment, Maputo.
22.30            :    VIDEO SESSION
SERGIO CAMPOS & NATACHA ROMAO: “Osmosis: Karnataka Siddis”
(35 minutes)
FRIDAY 13 JANUARY 2006
09.00 - 10.00     :  Keynote address 4 (Hall A) Chairperson:
Fitzroy Andre Baptiste (University of West Indies, Mona,
Jamaica, West Indies) LaToya Shanae Beck University of
California, Berkeley, USA "African presence or African
diaspora: Double consciousness and the African diaspora". 
10.30 - 13.00 : THE SIDDIS IN KARNATAKA 1 (Hall A)
Chairperson: Benigna Zimba (Eduardo Mondlane University,
Maputo, Mozambique) Pashington Obeng & Henry John Drewal
Harvard University & University of Wisconsin- Madison, USA
“Religion and arts of Siddis of Karnataka”
* Francis Guntipilly The TADIA Society & Centre Ashirvad,
Bangalore, India 'Siddis and Jesuits in Mundgod' * Sonia
Miegakanda Bouketo Ecole Pratique des Hautes Etudes en
Sciences Sociales, Paris, France "The evolution of the status
of the Karnataka Siddis from the 15th Century to at the
present time". Timothy D. Walker University of Massachusetts,
Dartmouth, USA "Abolishing the slave trade in Portuguese
India: Documentary evidence of popular and official
resistance to crown policy, 1842-1860
14.30 - 16.00: THE SIDDIS IN KARNATAKA 2  (Hall A)
Chairperson: Miguel Neneve (Federal University of Rondonia,
Brazil) * Pramod B. Gai Karnatak University, Dharwad "DNA
Profiling of Siddi of Karnataka" * Prakash V. Patil
Jawaharlal Nehru Medical College, Belgaum, Karnataka "Pattern
of anemias in Siddis of Karnataka by blood analysis" * 
Valdir Vegini, Selmo A. Apontes & F. da Silva University of
Joinville, Brazil, Federal University of Acre & CEPLA UNIR,
Brazil "Some phonetic and phonological peculiarities of the
Siddi-Konkani language".
or
14.30 - 15.30: THE AFRICAN DIASPORA IN THE FAR EAST (Hall B)
Chairperson: Aisha Bilkhair Khalifa (Harvard University,
Boston, USA) * Ineke van Kessel African Studies Centre,
Leiden, Netherlands "African soldiers in the Netherlands East
Indies (Indonesia)" * Kim Bok-Rae Center for International
Area Studies, Seoul, South Korea "African presence in Korea"
16.30 - 17.30    : Hall A session continuation Chairperson:
Jacinta Castelo Branco Correia (Federal University of
Rondonia, Brazil) * Geralda de Lima Angenot & Oziel Marques
da Silva CEPLA Federal University of Rondonia, Brazil "The
Portuguese and the African influences on the Siddi-Konkani
language" * Jean-Pierre Angenot & Selmo Azevedo Apontes
Federal University of Rondonia & Federal University of Acre,
Brazil "The influence of the Dravidian sub-apical palatal
articulation type on the retroflexed consonants of the
Indo-Aryan Siddi-Konkani dialect". 
17.30 - 18.30    :  GENERAL DISCUSSION, Coordinator: Rustom
Bharucha (Writer, Kolkata, India)
20.00            :    VIDEO SESSION :  Sheila Walker
"Scattered Africa: Faces and Voices of the African Diaspora"
(55 minutes) * Beheroze Shroff "We´re Indian and African:
Voices of the Sidis" (22 minutes) and "Voices of the Sidis:
Ancestral Links"(26 minutes). 
SATURDAY 14 JANUARY 2006
09.00 - 10.00 :  Keynote address 5 (Hall A) Chairperson:
Rustom Bharucha (Writer, Kolkata, India)* Kiran Kamal Prasad
The TADIA Society & Jjeeta Vimukti Karnataka Organisation,
Bangalore, India "Race, caste, class: the dilemmas
confronting the Siddis in Karnataka".
10.30 - 13.30 : THE SIDIS IN GUJARAT AND THE SHIDIS IN
PAKISTAN (Hall A) Chairperson: Abdul M. Sherif (Zanzibar
Museums, Tanzania) * Amy Catlin-Jairazbhoy University of
California, Los Angeles, USA "Consequences of international
touring among Sidis of Gujarat: A developmental perspective"
* Sabir Badal Khan University of the Studies of Naples, Italy
"On the music of the Shidis in Pakistan" * Abdulaziz Y. Lodhi
Uppsala University, Sweden "Linguistic evidence of Bantu
origins of the Sidi of Gujarat and the Shidi of Balochistan"
* Pedro Machado New York University "The African slaving and
slavery worlds of Gujarati merchants: the eighteenth and
nineteenth centuries" * Rizwan Kadri, Shree Swaminarayan Arts
College, Ahmedabad, Gujarat, India "African Sidisi diaspora
in Gujarat and their cultural contribution". 
14.30 - 16.00: SOCIO-ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE SIDDIS 1
(Hall A) Chairperson: Francis Guntipilly (TADIA) * Clodomir
S. de Morais Institute for Technical Support to Third World
Countries, Brasilia, Brazil "Integrated system of
capacitation and scientific researchs for the regional
development" * Jacinta C. B. Correia Federal University of
Rondonia, Brazil "Learning from Africa" * Henry John Drewal &
Pashington Obeng University of Wisconsin- Madison Harvard
University, Boston, USA "Stitching and survival: The Siddi
women's quilting cooperative of Northern Karnataka"
16.30 - 17.30    : SOCIO-ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OF THE SIDDIS 2
(Hall A) Chairperson: Clodomir Santos de Morais (Institute
for Technical Support to Third World Countries, Brasilia,
Brazil) * S. Japhet National Law School of India University -
NLSIU, India a piece on the socio-legal situation of the
Karnataka Siddis * Rachana Govil Deputy Director, Sports
Authority of India, New Delhi & Arjuna Awardee "Impact of
sports on socio-economic status of Siddi community in India". 
17.30 - 18.00    : NOTE ADDRESS BY THE DIRECTOR OF CASA ASIA,
SPAIN Chairperson: Luis Beltran, UNESCO chair on
Afro-Ibero-American Studies, University of Alcala, Madrid,
Spain Jon de la Riva Director, Casa Asia, Barcelona,
Catalonia, Spain "A bridge between Spain and Asia"
18.00 - 19.00    : INTERACTIVE SESSION BETWEEN SIDDIS AND
SCHOLARS: A BALANCE Coordinators: Kiran Kamal Prasad (The
TADIA Society, Bangalore, India) & Rustom Bharucha (Writer,
Kolkata, India)
20.30            :   VIDEO SESSION :  Desmond Nazareth &
Christopher Rego "Souls and Spices" (70 minutes)
SUNDAY 15 JANUARY 2006: INTERACTION DAY BETWEEN SCHOLARS AND
SIDDIS 
10.30 - 13.00    :  FRATERNIZATION FETE
14.00 - 15.30    : Women’s songs leading to Session with
Henry Drewal : the manufacture of quilts
16.00 - 17.40    : Festival of African and Afro-diasporic
Cinema FILM 1 DRUM. South Africa.  d. Zola Masoko.  In
English and Zulu with English subtitles. 2004.  100 min.
20.00            :  Festival of African and Afro-diasporic
Song, Music, Dance and Drama. Bad Shaha MUSICAL GROUP from
MUMBAI
MONDAY 16 JANUARY 2006
WORKSHOP ON SOCIO-ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STRATEGIES FOR SIDDIS:
10.30 - 12.30     :  Mapping: Homes, villages, the forest. 
Listing of economic and social resources. Sharing different
contexts of everyday life and struggle.
14.00 - 15.45     : SITUATIONAL IMPROVISATIONS leading to
Autobiographical TESTIMONIALS.
16.00 - 17.35     : Festival of African and Afro-diasporic
Cinema FILM 2 PAUL ROBESON: TRIBUTE TO AN ARTIST.  
U.S.A. Saul J. Turell  In English.  1979.  30 min. FILM 3
BLACK GIRL. LA NOIRE DE...  Senegal.  d. Ousmane Sembene. 
In French with English sub-titles.  1966.  65 min
20.00             : Festival of African and Afro-diasporic
Song, Music, Dance and Drama Gujarati Sidi Goma MUSICAL GROUP
from Ahmedabad KARNATAKA MUSICAL GROUP from LaLguli, YELLAPUR
TUESDAY 17 JANUARY 2006
WORKSHOP 
10.30 - 12.30    :  Rituals of birth, marriage, death.
14.00 - 15.45    :  Continuation of social rituals:
Discussion of their economic implications. Reflection on
performances seen on the first two nights with the performers
and organiSers like Amy Catlin.
16.00 - 17.55    : Festival of African and Afro-diasporic
Cinema FILM 4 : LUMUMBA. Congo/U.S.A.  d. Raoul Peck.  In
French with English subtitles. 2000.  115 min.
20.00            : Festival of African and Afro-diasporic
Song, Music, Dance and Drama KGN Arabic Duff band from
HYDERABAD Jamming of different Siddi musical groups.
WEDNESDAY 18 JANUARY 2006
14.00 - 15.45    :  Discussion of actual ways of earning a
living : problems, possibilities, and the need for
organization.  Question-and-answer session with Clodomir on
income generation.
16.00 - 17.47    :  Festival of African and Afro-diasporic
Cinema FILM 5: SUGAR CANE ALLEY (RUE CASES NEGRES)
Martinique/France. d. Euzhan Palcy. In French and Creole with
English subtitles. 1983. 107 min.
20.00            :  Festival of African and Afro-diasporic
Song, Music, Dance and Drama MANCHIKERI SIDDIS PLAY,
Manchikeri, Karnataka. 
THURSDAY 19 JanUARY 2006
9.00 - 12.00     : Questions, recommendations, strategies,
DREAMS socio-economic development projects possibilities of
forming an All India Siddi Federation preparation of the
First International Gathering in Africa of African
Descendants living in Asia, to be held in January 2009 in an
African country (Mozambique? Zanzibar? Djibouti?) with a
possible future proposal of forming an All-Asia
Afro-diasporic Federation.
16.00 - 17.37     : Festival of African and Afro-diasporic
Cinema FILM 6 : THE OTHER FRANCISCO (EL OTRO FRANCISCO) 
Cuba. In Spanish with English subtitles. Sergio Giral. 1975.
97 min.
20.00  23.22     :  AFRICAN CINEMA FESTIVAL: FILM 7 :
MOOLAADE.  Senegal/Burkina Faso.  d. Ousmane Sembene. In
French and Bambara with English subtitles 2004.  202 min.
ABSTRACTS IN ABSENTIA
List of abstracts from scholars who
cannot be present for the conference
these will be published together with the
other abstracts:
Alan Baxter
Flinders University, Adelaide, Australia
The African presence in Macau
Alberto da Costa e Silva
Brazilian Academy of Letters, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil
a piece on the Afro-Brazilian  history 
Ali Jihad. Racy
University of California, Los Angeles, USA
The life history of the lyre: Musical exchange between Asia
and Africa
Behnaz Mirzai Asl
Southern Methodist University, Dallas, Texas, USA
African slaves in Iranian history
Clovis Albano de Santana
Pontifícal Catholic University of Sao Paulo, Brazil
Programme of autoemployment: the practice of the Large-scale
Capacitation Method in the urban milieu
Edward A. Alpers
University of California, Los Angeles, USA
African diaspora music in the Southwest Indian Ocean
Ivan Labra Moya & Isabel Rodriguez de Labra
IATTERMUND, Santiago, Chile & Harare, Zimbabwe
Community organisation across cultures:  Lessons learnt from
the contextualisation of the Organizational Workshops to
Southern Africa
Ivo Carneiro de Sousa
University of Porto, Portugal
Africans in the colonial and post-colonial formation of Eastern Timor
Joseph E. Harris
Howard University, Washington, USA
Global African diaspora studies: Its emergence and development
Julio Santana Braga
State University of Feira de Santana, Bahia, Brazil
The dynamics of the Afro-Brazilian ancestrality
Juan Jose Rojas Hererra, Jesus Morett Sanchez,
Luis Gerardo E. Hernandez
Maria Belén H.  Pacheco
University of Chapingo, Mexico
The Mexican expertise in the practice of the Organization
Workshops for Job Creation and Income Generation, with a
special attention to the areas reached by the African
diaspora.
Liliana Mosca
University of the Studies of Naples "Federico II", Italy
The slave trade in Madagascar in the second half of the
XVIIc. from trough the lens of some Anglo-American sources
Luz Maria M. Montiel
National Autonomous University of Mexico
The African presence in Mexico
Miguel Sobrado
National University of Costa Rica, San José, Costa Rica
The state of the XXIst Century
Shihan de S. Jayasuriya
University of London., United Kingdom
Music and memories: Oral traditions in an Indian ocean island
Tiffany Ruby Patterson
Hamilton College, New York, USA
Unraveling African 'consciousness' in India
Vijayalakshmi Teelock
University of Mauritius, Reduit, Mauritius
African slave trade to Mauritius: The Mozambican slave trade
to Mauritius in the 18th and early 19th centuries.
NickelShoe 23:02, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
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message: Whoever wrote this article has one flawed assumption. The indigenous peoples of the Indian subcontinent were NOT AFRICANS, meaning NEGROIDS! THEY WERE NEGRITOS AND AUSTRALOIDS WHICH ARE FOUND ONLY IN ASIA AND AUSTRALIA, NOT AFRICA! People get so ignorant when they say the original Indians were negroes. I have nothing against people of African descent, no offense but I am merely trying to point out an often ignored fact, Negroids are native to Africa and have never migrated to Asia prior to the slave trade. Just because Negritos and Australoids happen to have features somewhat resembling Negroids and happen to be called black, it doesnt mean they are actually negroid. I hope people understand that. -User: Afghan Historian
Are you serious? because every human came from Africa at one point, "Negritos" and "Australoids" may have different genetics, but thats due to them being in different locations for so long.
Yes all humans comes from Africa, but those that left 70,000 year ago became other races.  Only those that never left or left much later are actually Black or Negroid.  The fact that Negritos and Australoids have different genetics means they are a different race from Blacks, despite their dark skin.--Editingoprah 03:29, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We resolved this in the black people article. Siddi and others who retain the distinctive qualities that allow black africans to also be recognized as black..... they are black too. So EO and I disputed this, but in the end he acknowledged that this narrow view of blackness (being that it only comes from Africans and recent migrations out of Africa) is unjustifiably conclusive. The Negritos and Australoids differ in two ways, they differ in their location and they differ in their culture. They are still black in the broad sense and need not fit a narrow one. Furthermore I took out the request for a citation in the description of Siddis and other East Indians recently from Africa coming as something other than slaves. A  would be required for someone to prove (which the burden rests) that ONLY slaves came from Africa. --Zaphnathpaaneah 05:58, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Africans were not native to India?

message: Just wanted to point out that the term 'habshi' is not necessarily the same as 'siddi'. While a Siddi would be from an person in South Asia of East African origin, 'Habshi' refers to any black African person, and is used as such. No idea how I would incorporate such a change into the current article (as well as creating a new article for 'habshi'?), so I added this here.
: This usage has flipped over time. Habashi used to strictly mean Abyssinian in India, i.e. Ethopian, since India has had really old trading relations with Ethiopia/Abyssinia/Habash. The origins of the term Siddi are uncertain, but there seems to be widespread belief that it comes from Sayyid, which could (in this context) just mean a Muslim or a Muslim Noble. Not all Siddis are likely to have been Habashi, i.e. Ethiopian/Eritrean. At some point during the 20th century, Habashi simply came to mean any Black African and the term Habash just stopped being used in popular speech. So, a Nigerian could now be called Habashi, which by traditional Indian usage would be incorrect. --Hunnjazal (talk) 03:47, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Habshi not necessarily same as siddi 

message: * Junagadh
* Gir Forest National Park
* Asiatic Lion
Sid, Siddi, Sayyid, Sayyad, As-Siyd are all West African Islamic terms which discribes the "best of the best" African warrior whose good and brave qualities are inharited at birth from a line of brave and honorable male ancestors extending far back into the bloodline, thus giving birth to the English word "seed". The Andalusian heroic Knight "El-Cid" was correctly called Al-Siyd or As-Siyd and was thusly named by the Muslims conquors who invade Spain for two reasons: 1. He was brave and honorable; 2. He was very dark of skin.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.80.199.193 (talk) 20:33, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: See also

message: * http://travel.expressindia.com/story/20499.html
* http://www.cybernoon.com/DisplayArticle.asp?section=xtras&subsection=womensextra&xfile=January2007_extraspecial_standard805&child=extraspecial
Atulsnischal 13:51, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: External Links

message: I don't see consensus on this in literature. There are many hypotheses on this, and some speculation on the part of various authors, researchers and Siddis themselves. All this should be reflected with references. --Hunnjazal (talk) 03:59, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: 76.65.183.25 and other similar IPs are constantly and in a single tracked way removing refs describing one hypothesis of the name. Won't discuss it here either for some reason. Possibly a sock for someone else since their contrib history seems pretty small, yet knows enough to quote (quite incorrectly) WP:OR, etc. Basic motive seems to be to deny a hypothesized Siddi-Sidamo link or slant the names section towards a specific direction (i.e. "Siddi is derived from Sayyid"), when contending hypotheses also exist. --Hunnjazal (talk) 06:38, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The origin of the name Siddi

message: I suggest merging Makrani and African Pakistani into this page. Both are short fragments with info already contained here. African Pakistani was already suggested for merge back in June and there's been no discussion (so I assume noone objects). If anyone objects/agrees please comment here. Tobus2 (talk) 10:45, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, redundant fragments; merging/redirects here should cover it. Soupforone (talk) 01:32, 8 November 2013 (UTC)

text: Alright. Soupforone (talk) 01:48, 14 November 2013 (UTC)

text: Why merge Makrani? The Siddis aren't the only inhabitants of the Makran region. – Uanfala (talk) 23:10, 24 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Can the "shiddi refers to the captain of the ship that brought the slaves" theory from a single indian newspaper article be removed please. It is absurd. If that were true, most of them would be called 'Purtagali' instead of Shiddi.
What's  more likely is -> Arabic speaking North African/Abyssinian/Egyptian black visitor to India call each other Siddi (Sayyidi)-> Siddi becomes generic term for blacks in India -> Sub-Saharan black slaves pronounce it shiddi -> Community of former slaves becomes known as the 'Shiddi' people  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 113.203.171.139 (talk) 11:51, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The "captains" theory comes from an award winning book by well-published history professor Vijay Prashad, not a "single indian newspaper article" as you say and the Etymology section also lists other theories. If you have an alternate theory stated in a WP:RS then I'm happy to add it, but we're not going to remove the "captains" one just because you don't like it. Tobus (talk) 00:07, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Absurd 'Captains of the Slave Ship' Theory 

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message: There are two areas at Old Delhi's ridge area and Karol Bagh.
The first located approximately 3 kilometres south of the Hindu Rao Hospital and the British built 1857 war memorial and the Saint Stephen's Church is an ancient graveyard of the Mughal days of Emperor Aurangzeb Aalamgir and is called Bagh Shidi Gauhar. This may have been a large garden in the days of Aurangzeb and may have encompassed a four square kilometre area from the Mughal Eidgaah in the south and Sabzi Mandi at north and Bara Hindu Rao at East and Karol Bagh at west. The name Shidi Gauhar appears in the 1) Maasir i Aalamgiri by Saqi Must'ad Khan, Maasir Ul Umaraa by Nawwab Shamsuddaula Shah Nawaz Khan, 2) Siyar Ul Mut'aakharin by Khafi Khan and 3) The history of Aurangzeb by Sir Jadu Nath Sarkar with reference to an Abyssinian Amir related to the famous Sidi Anbar of Khidki, present day's Aurangabad. Shidi or Sidi Gauhar was a panj hazari mansabdar and had lived at Shahjahanabad but had returned to Daulatabad and died there. His garden today is the privatized graveyard of Delhi's Punjabi Saudagaran community better known as Anjuman Wakil Qaum Punjabiyan.
The second located at Old Delhi's Karol Bagh area's East Park Road is called Shidipura. No traces of any Mughal period building or monument exist here but legend has it that this was where a Sidi or Shidi community that had migrated from the Deccan during the days of Emperor Aurangzeb used to stay in prominence. It very well could have been the residence of Sidi or Shidi Gauhar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lutfullah (talk • contribs) 16:13, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
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message: Greetings,
Happen to come across a interesting Draft:Afro-Pakistanis which still needs refs and other updates. I suppose, it will be good if some one comes forward to adopt and update the article draft; since the user who created seems to have been blocked for some other reason.  
:Pinging for info: 
:I will be cross posting it few more relevant talk pages.
Thanks and warm regards
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message: Muhammad Ibn Al-Qasim army was exclusively made of Kaysi Arabs, Even converted clients weren’t allowed in the Umayyad army much less african slaves. Not a single primary Islamic source mentions  any African slaves in the Umayyad army. Please choose better sources for this article. 46.184.88.214 (talk) 20:15, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Muhammad Ibn Al-Qasim army 

message: Siddi (سیدی) is a term of respect that a large number of African people use for their elders. It is a tradition of North Indians to call foriegn people with the term of respect used in the their own language. This is why the domestic maids are called 'Maasi' which is the word for Khala (Mother's sister) in Punjabi. Similarly Pakhtuns domestic help are called 'Lala' which is the term for elder brother in Peshawar. Similarly the elder black slave/servant was known as Siddi, which was presumed to be the term of respect in his language. Shiddi is a variant pronunciation. It has nothing to do with 'Sahibi' or Sayyid meaning Hashimi or Sayyid meaning 'ship captain'.
Khursheed Qaimkhani, Sindhi Anthropologist writes in his work Bhaṭaktī naslen̲ (1991) that "Shiddi" is a distorted form of an African word 'Siddi' which itself is a modification of the Arabic word Sayyidi meaning master or owner. 
 HussaynKhariq (talk) 07:51, 4 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello dear HussaynKhariq, please provide a reliable reference to back your argumentation. Otherwise this can not be presented in the article. See WP:OR and WP:RS. Furthermore, this possibility seems to be already mentioned, please refrain from presenting one opinion of the etymological root as dominant when it is not. Sincerely–Wikiuser1314 (talk) 16:28, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Siddi (Sayyidi) is a common term of address in North Africa/The Horn of Africa/Yemen