Talk:Guanahani

message: Current version is poorly written, confusing, and inaccurate, so I'm going to re-write it.--Keithpickering (talk) 15:35, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Transatlantic Track section

message: I removed the uncited claim that the actual Juan de la Cosa map does not show multiple islands, contra unnamed reproductions. The map on display at the Museo Naval in Madrid is rumored to be a reproduction, as the original is too valuable and fragile for public display. However, I believe the color photographs in Nebenzahl (Atlas of Columbus and the Great Discoveries) is of the genuine article. The details seem too perfect (and perfectly aged) otherwise. As a noted scholar working with a noted publisher, Nebenzahl if anyone would have been allowed access to the original. The Nebenzahl photograph definitely shows Guanahani as multiple. 74.33.31.220 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 07:01, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems like more of a mistake than a correction. Spanish leagues aren't English ones, and Columbus's wouldn't've been standard modern Spanish leagues either. — LlywelynII 08:04, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Island or Islands

message: This seems like a minor point, but I am surprised that the article does not even mention the accent usually seen over the final i of Guanahaní in Spanish. Do the original sources not have it? --Florian Blaschke (talk) 19:16, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm, it seems that wherever I saw the spelling Guanahaní whoever spelled it like that simply had it wrong. At least es:Guanahani insists that there is no accent and that the word is oxytonic. If I correctly understand the phonology and orthography of 15th century Spanish, <guanahani> or <Guanahani> is the attempt to render something like wana'áni [wanaˈʔani] in Taíno or whatever language the natives spoke. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 20:48, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

text: Per Early Modern Spanish#Phonology, it's entirely possible that at the end of the 15th century, which is the beginning of the Early Modern Spanish period, the letter  was still pronounced as [h] (as it was definitely pronounced as [f], [ɸ] or [h] in Old Spanish, i. e., until the early 15th century, where usually  was used for the phoneme), and that Guanahani was hence used to render [wanaˈhani]. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 23:30, 7 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accent 

message: not English translation actual is. Can someone please parse this into what it's actually trying to say? Is it "Small Land in the Upper Waters"? or something else? — LlywelynII 07:44, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Small Upper Waters Land

message: This page previously IDed and linked the wrong Murdock. The religious scholar wasn't writing articles for the US Navy. The US Navy officer was. — LlywelynII 07:45, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wrong Murdock

message: What is the actual  of this article?
If it's about Guanahani or Guanahaní, the Lucayan island encountered by Columbus... it should be about the Lucayan people and their society before Columbus's arrival. It should at least have that as the initial focus of the lead and the historical treatment of the place. See the first bit of #History on San Salvador Island for what it could/should look like.
If this article is solely going to be focused on the location of Columbus's San Salvador... that's what the article's name should be: San Salvador, San Salvador Island, San Salvador (Columbus), Identity or Location of San Salvador Island, etc. Alternatively, just park almost all the current content at a new article on the First voyage of Christopher Columbus, which certainly should be separated from the general one about all four of his voyages.
In any case, the current article has almost nothing to do with the namespace it's parked at. — LlywelynII 08:09, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:SCOPE]]