Talk:Irish question

message: The "Irish Question" is a 19th-century term.
In order that Ireland could defend against French invasion, in about 1800 the Parliament of Ireland and the Parliament of Britain both passed Acts uniting the separate kingdoms of Ireland and Great Britain into a single kingdom, the "United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland".
This mean that taxes raised in Britain could be spent in Ireland ... previously, the parliament in London had objected to the king spending in his role of King of Ireland taxes received in his role of King of Great Britain.This also meant that from then on the Irish had to pay to taxes to Britain.
The union of Ireland and Great Britain was not a happy affair; There was teo sides in the argument the nationalists(Irish people who believed that Ireland iwas a diffrent entity to Britain so therefore should be free from Britain and rule the country themselves)and Unionist(Irish usually protestants who were desendents of British who had been "planted" in Ireland previously by the British government, they beleived Ireland should remain united with Britain for financial and political reasons) these diffrences in opinion led to violence.  Hence "the Irish Question". 
And so, in the later part of the 19th century, the government attempted to dissove the union.  Two attempts were made, but both were defeated as a result of opposition from the Unionists in Ireland and the Conservative party in Britain.
Eventually, the UK changed its constitution, to prevent the House of Lords from vetoing legislation passed by the elected representatives.  (See "Parliament Act").  And in 1914, a Home Rule Bill was passed.
Unfortunately, the Great War intervened, and delayed implementation of Home Rule.  This led to happy events in Ireland, which eventually resulted in Ireland becoming a separate kingdom again - the Irish Free State - with the same king as the UK.  Ireland then fought a civil war, with republicans disputing the legitimate authority of the elected representatives in Dublin.  The war concluded with the defeat of the republicans;  but then the counties of Northern Ireland chose to be excluded from the Irish Free State.
The King of the Irish Free State was not supportive of Irish independence.
With a lot more work the Irish politicians finally got Ireland to become a Republic in 1948.
Tim
:I don't think the Irish Question is really that simple.  Wouldn't you say the fundamental question of independence/union transforms with the transformation of the conflict?  In the late 18th, early 19th century the question concerned a clearly defined issue of union or independence between Ireland and England.  Catholics and Protestants were not entirely divided on the question until Catholics began to gain rights into the late 19th century, then Protestants asserted themselves with the re-emergence of the Orange Order for unionism, etc.  From which, the question transforms from a polarized question to a more complex issue between Protestants, Catholics and England, which then becomes a question between N. Ireland, the Irish Free State and England after partition.  Thus, the "Irish Question" really has different meanings at different points in history.  That may be a little much to explain better than I've explained it here, but isn't my understanding correct? --Kenneth M Burke 04:31, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe I'm biased in believing the question essentially remains today? --Kenneth M Burke 04:36, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Terms like 'the Jewish Question' and the 'Irish question' were deemed pompous in the 20th century, but that century is hardly a model of harmonious relations in and with either group. The 'Question' phrase surely reflects little other than a need to headline an informed debate or two around the relevant issues?--94.119.64.25 (talk) 16:37, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
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message: The latest addition to the article, re 2017, correctly contradicts the old framing of the phrase as passé, and the Disraeli quote seems to disprove the article's current 'PC' gloss on the matter to the effect that the 'ruling class' used the term in a 'patronising' fashion. Phrases like 'Irish Question' and 'Jewish Question' are not intrinsically patronising, but rather reflect the fact that these were (and arguably Remain) pressing issues of the day, and the educated and those working to timetables absolutely need(ed) a way to refer to/table the matter. As for the current Wikipedian norm of decapitalising the second element, this arguably adds insult to injury, trivialising both major Questions.--94.119.64.7 (talk) 11:45, 26 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-Contradictory/trivialising