Talk:Talysh-Mughan Autonomous Republic

message: Im half Azeri and half Talish (dad's side) and maybe the Talysh-Mughan Republic flag but its not the Talish flag, which is:
http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/a/az%7Dtnm.gif
As far as I know the Talish consider themselfs as Azeris and the last time a TMR speech was held, the holder of that speech got banned from the district because he wanted to separate Talsih from Azerbaijan. Im trying to say that the TMR has almost no support at all. Baku87 00:47, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, Iran's Azeris (my father included) consider themselves Iranians and the last time the separatists held another rally using Babek's commemoration as an excuse, they had zero support...most Iranian Azeris do not want to separate Azeri provinces from Iran...Azerbaycan bizim torpaqimizdi, Iran ise vetenimizdi...period.
I was talking about Talish who life in Azerbaijan not Iran. I know whoever lives in Iran is manipulated to think they are Iranians rather then Azeris. But other ethnic groups such as Persians and Kurds do believe they are first Kurds/Persians then second Iranians. South Azeris have been manipulated  to think in refurse. Baku87 14:00, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

text: From what I've read, the Talysh were even organized in their own Khanate at the time Russia had conquered the region.  I've also read that they went through intense persecution under Stalin who denied them autonomy in the Azerbaijan SSR.  I believe that the Talysh are a distinct Indo-European ethnic group.  They are neither Azeris or Iranians.  To call the Talysh "South Azeris" would be like calling the Kurds "Mountain Turks" or the Ukrainians "Little Russians." -- Clevelander 14:34, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talish 

message: Ali, please add only relevant info to the article. Kurds have nothing to do with Talysh, and their case is not illustrative. Their autonomy was created by Stalin to promote Kurdish separatism in Turkey and Iran. Later Stalin changed his mind, abolished Kurdish autonomy and deported Kurds from Armenia, Azerbaijan and Georgia to Kazakhstan. Azerbaijan had absolutely nothing to do with it, and this information is not relevant to the articles about other ethnic groups, such as Azerbaijanis, Talysh, etc. If you need sources on this, I can provide them. You know that I always do. Grandmaster 10:18, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The many people in the republic of Azerbaijan were forefully assimilated during the USSR era. is not irrelevant in general.  Then it talks about Kurds.  According to a good variety of sources, the republic of Azerbaijan writes down Talysh as Azeris in their card.. Of course I did not want to write about such issues but unfortunately some people lately have done similar things with Iran related topics.  --alidoostzadeh 10:43, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Soviet bureaucracy favored bigger ethnicities and tried to merge small ethnic groups with bigger ones. It was envisaged that the smaller groups would merge with bigger ones, and bigger ones would form a new Soviet nation. Such policy was implemented not only in Azerbaijan, but in other regions of former USSR, such as Russia, or Central Asia (Tajikistan, for example). As for Kurds, here’s an interesting article in a Russian newspaper. It describes how USSR was promoting Kurdish separatism in Turkey and Iran.  It also describes the short-lived Kurdish autonomy in Azerbaijan, which was created and then eliminated by the Soviet authorities. I also don’t want to focus on negative info, but you see what’s going with Azerbaijan related articles for quite some time now. Some people are not happy that we manage to overcome our differences and try to make the articles the source of accurate info. Grandmaster 11:07, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  That is in interesting article.. Of course the  policy of USSR was to promote separatism when it was in its interest.. pretty much unfortunately like many governments of the region.  --alidoostzadeh 08:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kurds 

message: That is selective quoting. The source is talking about the Framework Convention adopted by Azerbaijan, but goes on to say:
-The Nagorno-Karabakh conflict and its consequences have considerably hampered efforts to implement the Framework Convention. Despite the general spirit of tolerance in Azerbaijan, the continued occupation of large parts of Azerbaijani territory and the displacement of a high number of people have caused tensions which have resulted in disconcerting manifestations of intolerance. It is to be hoped that a lasting and peaceful solution to the existing conflict will be found and that efforts to that effect will be accelerated. The eventual solution should protect the rights of all persons concerned, in conformity with the territorial integrity of the country and other principles of international law;
- Certain general human rights issues - including concerns as regards freedom of expression and the process of registration of non-governmental organisations - have an impact also on the protection of national minorities and need to be addressed by the authorities as a matter of priority;
- Despite certain positive legislative initiatives, there are a number of shortcomings in the legislation pertaining to the implementation of the Framework Convention. The 2002 Law on the State Language contains regrettable reductions in the legal guarantees relating to the protection of national minorities. These put at risk, for example, certain commendable practices in the field of electronic media. The process of amending the said law should be pursued further with a view to making it compatible with the Framework Convention;
- There is a need to couple the Law on the State Language with improved legal guarantees for the protection of national minorities in such fields as minority language education and use of minority languages in relations with administrative authorities, with a view to consolidating and expanding the positive practices that exist. Priority should be given to the adoption of a new law on the protection of national minorities, providing the necessary guarantees for the implementation of the relevant minority language standards; 
Azerbaijani 21:51, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The quote is not selective. It provides information with regard to the situation with ethnic minorities in Azerbaijan. Instead of removing referenced info, which is a violation of wiki rules, you can add info that you consider appropriate for the article. Grandmaster 04:27, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok then, we will just elaborate on the quote from the same source.Azerbaijani 18:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: COE

message: Here are at least 4 sources that use that name. 
, ,   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.81.223.249 (talk) 18:36, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Talyshtan

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