Talk:1985 Beirut car bombings

message: I added a citation for the death toll and consequently adjusted the numbers. Did I do this properly?
DreadSam 01:05, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation 

message: Being as there were scores of carbombs going off in any given year in Beirut back in that era, perhaps a better title would be "March 8, 1985 Beirut carbombing." Thoughts? Whiskey Pete 20:39, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd only be in favor of that if we had other articles on other car-bombs in Beirut in that year. If the notability of this one dwarves the other significantly enough that they would not likely be considered viable as an article, then I don't think the disambiguation is necessary. As a point of comparison, I'm sure there were other attacks on September 11, 2001, but the Wikipedia powers-that-be felt no need for further precision on the topic, and I'm not sure we need any here. Another way to think of it is whether more than, say, 1 in 50 (or some other arbitrary number) people are going to come to this article looking for a different one, then we'd be in need of disambiguation. Jun-Dai 09:22, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed renaming 

message: I'm concerned about the CIA thing. Not for or against, but the article puts the POV forward that the CIA were unquestionably responsible, when it looks like contentious at best. The citations also looks like it supports the latter assertion, not the former. Sceptre (talk) 21:04, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I second that. The recent inclusion of Saudi funding seems dubious and not well sourced as well. i've removed the offending clause because it seems like an exceptional claim and one that has no sourcing at all. I can't track the person who inserted it originally, but whoever they are - please add a good source to back up this claim, either with or without saudi funding. MiS-Saath (talk) 08:40, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality and RS 

message: The article says 'the other notable death was Jihad Mugniyah, the brother of Imad Mugniyah.' However, seeing the assassination attempt failed, wasn't this the only notable death (or at least the first one mentioned in the article? Therefore, am I correct in saying that the the word 'other' in this sentence is incorrect? Mverleg (talk) 22:52, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Textual detail 

message: Just a reminder to the anon who posted them, Blog entries and self published works fail WP:RS. V7-sport (talk) 21:38, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blog postings fail [[WP:RS]] 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: User RA8080 keeps vandalising the page with paranoid conspiracy nonsense. I'm removing this material, along with dead links, paywall links, unsourced allegations etc  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.31.26.171 (talk) 16:18, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see WP:PAYWALL.  A paywall does not prevent a source from being cited here. 331dot (talk) 16:54, 2 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conspiracy theory materials 

message: I am going to remove the reference to the alleged involvement of British Intelligence as mentioned in the first sentence of this article, as it is not mentioned in the reference and nor is it elaborated on in the following text.
I request that if it is reinserted that a verifiable reference to details of the alleged involvement be included. Thank you. John2o2o2o (talk) 14:51, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  British Intelligence Involvement 

message: The assertion that it was organized by the CIA is rather dubious. Aside from common beliefs among some Lebanese communities, most evidence used for this assertion is based on a 12 May 1985 Washington Post article - Robert Fisk cited this in his Pity the Nation, it was also carried by CBS, LA Times, and NY Times - that refers to the mission as runaway and unauthorized. Ties between the CIA and the bombing are undoubted, but the article should probably use less blatant wording.
Such an assertion should definitely have a source at the very least, preferably something reliable.
Perhaps something along the lines of "in a failed assassination attempt by a CIA proxy force described as runaway and unauthorized."
Wolfie1213 (talk) 07:05, 16 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biased Use of Sources