Talk:Coulommiers cheese

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message: When you produce a sentence that is really badly strung together, then the well-meaning editor who  tries to fix it may make it worse. 
*"This cheese can be either farmer-made or industrially produced, though the industrial version lacks the depth of an unpasteurized cheese; the artisanal or "farmhouse" unpasteurised Coulommiers has some reddish blush in parts of the rind." 
* The sentence was editted to: It is farmer-made or industrially produced. The industrial version lacks the depth of an unpasteurized cheese; artisanal or "farmhouse" unpasteurised Coulommiers has some reddish blush in parts of the rind. The period of ripening when made of pasteurised whole milk is about four to six weeks. 
* It is now: The cheese may be either farmer-made or industrially produced, however the industrial version lacks the depth of an unpasteurized cheese. 
::The other part of the sentence hasn't been deleted. It has been put in the description rather than in the production. 
:What was wrong with the sentence in the first place, that caused a well-meaning unidentified editor to stuff it up, by splitting two related ideas? 
:The problem was caused by by joining two not closely related ideas with a semi-colon.  '"'the industrial version lacks the depth of an unpasteurized cheese; the artisanal or "farmhouse" unpasteurised Coulommiers has some reddish blush...""   do not relate closely.  The semi-colon needed removing. 
Using semi-colons
* Use them in long lists, only in places where a comma is not enough: "Joe Rudd, the butcher; John White, the baker; Jack Tallow, the candlestick-maker"
* Use them is balanced sentences: "He likes coffee; she likes tea" 
* Use them for contradictions: "He said he would do it; he didn't."  Note: if you include a word link, such as "He said he would do it, but he didn't." then no semi-colon.  Conjunctions are almost always the better way to go. 
* What semi-colons are not good for is stringing together ideas that ought to be in different sentences. 
* Basically, think before using. 
Amandajm (talk) 04:06, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Clumsy sentence