Talk:List of Manchester City F.C. players

message: Hello,
According to this page, Danny Tiatto played roughly 320 games for Man.City, and scored 140-odd goals. Now, soccerbase.com says he played 158 times (including substitute appearances), and scored 4 goals. That seems a bit more plausible to me. Should I amend? Artie p 09:13, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I must have been using Francis Lee as a template for creating columns when I created the article, and forgot to change that one. Thanks for the spot, I've amended it. Oldelpaso 16:45, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Errors with Danny Tiatto's stats.

message: Is there a list of Man City player of the year somewhere? Þjóðólfr (talk) 08:58, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Player of the Year

message: It's just come to mind that this list is ordered by year of appearances whereas the 25-99 and >25 articles are ordered by number of appearances. Should we not be ordering them both by the same criterion? I'd prefer by number of appearances, personally, but either way, shouldn't they both be ordered the same? Falastur2 Talk 13:06, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: When I created the other two lists I realised the scope of them meant ordering by appearances made more sense. They were modelled on the Birmingham lists created by Struway2. My ideal version of this list looks quite different from what we have now, but as evidenced in threads above, not everybody has felt the same way. If it was solely up to me, it would be ordered by appearances, and I'd get rid of the national hall of fame tables (replaced with some prose relating to that. Maybe here, maybe in another article). I'd also consider moving away from assigning players a nationality in favour of just listing the highest level of international recognition gained. In the other lists this has included the number of caps gained while at MCFC, but that has proved difficult to source well, particularly as Transfermarkt is not deemed a reliable source. Oldelpaso (talk) 14:27, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ordering 

message: To start with - I can see for myself why exactly the list was split in two by tracing the edit history of the article, but that is not really the question I am getting at. More rather, I am not convinced that this list should have been split in two in the first place. Why are we dividing the figures up between those sourced from a book and those sourced from soccerbase? Yes, I acknowledge that the two are not necessarily equally authoritative and that some reference needs to be made to the idea that the information has come from several sources, but are we trying to claim that one source is inherently less reliable than the other? Or that "contemporary" players are somehow more tangible or distinguishable than previous players, which feels somewhat akin to the way people talk about football being invented in 1992?
By splitting the list we create an unnecessary divide between the two sets of players - it becomes hard if not impossible to seriously compare the stats of two players from different lists, and we risk suggesting that the club or the fans view the two sets of players as separate from each other, especially since the article makes no reference to why they have been divided up. This style is not how any other team presents its list of players - they all consolidate in a single list - and while I want to encourage anonymous users to help us in this project by editing and updating information, I feel compelled to point out that these edits were made by an unregistered user who has not returned to Wikipedia since he (or she) made the changes half a year ago, and they were made with no forewarning nor attempt to poll for opinions from other users.
Personally, I'm ill at ease with keeping the current style and would like to suggest we revert it to the previous, single-list, format. Does anyone have any comments? Falastur2 Talk 02:57, 17 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why has the list been split in two? 

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