Talk:List of passports

message: After the Dred Scott decision, which declared that a black man could not be a citizen of the United States of America, the Commonwealth of Massachusetts issued at least one passport to a black man, declaring him a citizen of the Commonwealth and requesting all to let him come and go, etc. J S Ayer (talk) 01:39, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Massachusetts passport 

message: Pakistan issues special passports to its diplomats. Should Pakistani diplomatic passport be added in the Contemporary Diplomatic Passports gallery?
--Themadhatter3269 12:11, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure - if you can find a free image to upload... BushelCandle (talk) 05:43, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diplomatic Passports: Pakistan 

message: I can't seem to be able to add the file to the wiki text if anyone can help me out or just add it that would be great.
https://yo.wikipedia.org/wiki/F%C3%A1%C3%ACl%C3%AC:Nigerianpassport.jpg
161.52.14.72 (talk) 10:37, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You can't include images from other wikis, such as :yo:Fáìlì:Nigerianpassport.jpg and :ru:Файл:Suriname1-3.jpg, on this project. Furthermore, there is no evidence that the governments which issued the passports have licensed them, so it has to be assumed that the passports are unlicensed. This means that the images can't be used on this page as they would violate WP:NFG. --Stefan2 (talk) 13:23, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Cameroon passport

message: Presently, the article says, "Passports where the captioned country is shown in italics are issued by entities that lack widespread diplomatic recognition." The linked article features four classes of states: UN member states not recognized by at least one UN member state, Non-UN member states recognized by at least one UN member state, Non-UN member states recognised only by non-UN member states, and Non-UN member state not recognized by any state. We should treat each of these four classes in a consistent way.
UN member states not recognized by at least one UN member state include: PRC, South Korea, Cyprus, Armenia, and North Korea. None of these passports are currently italicized. I think this is correct.
Non-UN member states recognized by at least one UN member state include: Palestine, Kosovo, Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, Taiwan, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, and Northern Cyprus. All of these states are italicized except Kosovo and Palestine. This doesn't seem consistent.
Non-UN member states recognized only by non-UN member states include: Nagorno-Karabakh and Transnistria. They are both italicized.
Non-UN member state not recognized by any state include: Somaliland. Somaliland is italicized.
I am being bold and italicizing Kosovo and Palestine since they are they only exceptions. Alternatively, we could un-italicize Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, Taiwan, Abkhazia, South Ossetia, and Northern Cyprus.
192.80.111.38 (talk) 15:44, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I am trying to be bold again by changing the rule to, "Passports where the captioned country is shown in italics are issued by states that are neither member states of the United Nations nor United Nations non-member observer states." This rule is consistent with the current state of the article with Kosovo italicized and Palestine not italicized. 192.80.111.38 (talk) 18:14, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who gets Italicized? 

message: There are a lot of reversions lately citing WP:NFCCP, but there's no discussion on the talk page about how this policy applies here. I'm not a wiki-lawyer, but it seems like of the ten criteria, the usage on this page seems to unambiguously meet criteria one through seven and nine. Criteria eight is inherently subjective, but I believe it is met as well. Criteria ten, updating the image description page, seems to have been unmet. Is the only rationale for removing the images that the image description needs to be updated? Rather than reverting the changes, couldn't we make the necessary changes to the image descriptions instead? Do people generally agree that the other nine criteria are met or do people feel that one or more of the other criteria are unmet? 192.80.111.38 (talk) 00:22, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem with using images in lists articles such as this is that the usage tends to be decorative and not contextual and fails :WP:NFCC#8. There is no sourced corresponding discussion of the cover so basically the file is just used to show what the cover looks like. This is something which is generally not considered acceptable per :WP:NFTABLES and :WP:NFLISTS. Many of these images are being used in stand-alone articles about the passport itself, so there's no real need this type of use per number 6 of :WP:NFC#UUI. You'll probably get more feedback from others if you ask about this at :WP:MCQ or :WT:NFCC since more editors are likely watching that those talk pages that are watching this talk page. Just add a link to this discussion or use :Template:Please see. FWIW, similar types of non-free usage (not just passport covers) has been discussed quite a bit at :WP:FFD and previously at :WP:NFCR, and the consensus typically has been that such type of usage does not satisfy :WP:NFCC. Maybe you are planning to use the files in a different way? You can always start a FFD discussion about a particular file and see if you can establish a consensus for using it in this article.  -- Marchjuly (talk) 01:30, 14 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-Free Images? 

message: This website has a collection of quality images of all the passports: https://www.passportindex.org/ --Ermahgerd9 (talk) 06:08, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arton Capital's Passport Index 

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message: This list seems to be quite incomplete. Looking just at Africa, there's less than 40 passports shown while the continent has 54 widely recognized countries and 2 disputed territories (one of which, Sahrawi is listed here, despite the article also saying Taiwan and Kosovo are the only existing cases). I didn't meticulously check to see which countries are missing, but found at least one to see if the unlisted countries do have passports and it didn't take me long to find the Ivory Coast which do have a passport and even a wikipedia article (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivorian_passport). I haven't checked the other continents, but that's a pretty major gap in information that should probably be filled by someone educated on the matter. Cillian flood (talk) 06:29, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
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message: Syrian passport should be added to the list. --Robot8A (talk) 15:50, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Syrian passport 

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message: where is it ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.127.57.251 (talk) 23:36, 18 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The current Hong Kong passport is copyrighted and non-free, therefore it's not included in this list, due to strict guidelines on non-free images. See WP:NFLISTS. --Stylez995 (talk) 13:06, 29 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Hong Kong

message: I understand that images of all passports cannot be included due to copyright reasons, however, is there any reason that they are not present with just a placeholder image? An example is New Zealand, which appears to have a diplomatic passport listed but not a standard one. Kermanbob (talk) 02:04, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Passports 

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message: Existing images of passports of the following countries are belonging to ordinary passports, therefore they need to be changed with diplomatic ones: Austria, Denmark, Estonia, Spain. 149.140.214.197 (talk) 16:17, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  About ordinary passport listed under “Contemporary diplomatic passports”