Talk:List of Polish people/Archive 1

message: This List of Poles includes a number of persons, who were not born in Poland, were not Polish and did not speak or write Polish language. 
This statement was removed from the list. Answer to rmherman
Wikipedia has far too many misstatements and false statements in the area of peoples and lands , which are situated east of the Oder and Neisse rivers and thus were put under Polish Administration, as Harry Truman called it. It has been tried numerous times, to correct the mis-information on all these articles, but that only leads to either name-calling or vicious attacts. Therefore this writer will not get into discussions. 
wikipedia is in that regard seriously flawed and leads one to suspect, that perhaps the publication of massive misinformation ( plus the numerous copiers) is on purpose ??
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Johannes Hevelius, (1611-1687), astronomer 
Was a Polish Astronomer born in Gdansk Poland who served under King Sobieski I beleive he should be added to the list.
I wonder if he was of German decent, or was Polish.Vancouverguy 04:22, 2 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old talk 

message: In the last days I got the impression, that someone tries to change the Polish history. Copernicus (D), Fahrenheit (D), Hevelius (D), Mandelbrot (F), Ulam (US) and Zamenhof (RUS) were not Poles, even though some of them were born in Poland (in case of Zamenhof im not sure). I recognised it also in the Silesia or Silesian language discussions and now famous french or german people suddenly became polish. 82.82.126.128 14:48, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copernicus (D), Fahrenheit (D), Hevelius (D), Mandelbrot (F), Ulam (US) and Zamenhof (RUS) were not Poles, even though some of them were born in Poland? Stop the edit war! 

message: Was Copernicus Polish? In my opinion he was Prussian (german). 82.82.126.128 15:15, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was Copernicus Polish? 

message: Here a Copernicus statement from 1529 (Hermann Kesten):
"Wehe dir, armes Preußenland, daß du für eine so schlechte Verwaltung nun büßen mußt!- Wenn hier nicht bald Abhilfe geschieht, dann wird Preußen bald nur Münzen besitzen, die nichts als Kupfer enthalten. Dann wird jeder Handel mit dem Auslande aufhören. Denn welcher fremde Kaufmann wird seine Waren für Kupfermünzen verkaufen...? Einem solchen Verfall des Preußenlandes sehen die Machthaber ruhig zu; sie lassen unser liebes Vaterland, dem wir alles verdanken, dem wir unser Leben selbst schulden, durch kopflose Nachläßigkeit, von Tag zu Tag mehr, kläglich untergehen!"
In this text Copernicus says, he is Prussian. And Prussia, of course never was Polish. Copernicus had Silesian parents (in those days German).
:: Silesian maybe. But they lived in Krakow. Prussia had nothing to do with Germany.
AM 
:Being Prussian doesn't mean he was German...Prussians were Slavic and had a Slavic language before being absorbed by Germany and adopting German, were they not? In the 15th century I don't think that had happened yet, had it? (I don't really know.) Adam Bishop 15:24, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copernicus definitely was German 

message: The slavic Origin of Prussia has nothing to do with Poland. Prussia became german long time before Copernicus. And, Copernicus spoke german. Even he would have spoken polish. Poland didn't exist in those days. Germany, too. Therefore he could be called Prussian, but not Polish. Therefore a Copernicus in a List of Poles is wrong. I think it is undoubtable, that Fahrenheit, Hevelius, Mandelbrot were no Poles. Please stop the edit war! 82.82.126.128 15:30, 10 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop the edit war! 

message: Why are North and South not included in this list? This is pure latitudinal discrimination, and I for one am deeply offended! -- orthogonal 03:21, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing Poles

message: Many Poles who emigrated to America (and England) altered the spelling of their names. It seems appropriate to list the names that they adopted and became notable under. Specifically, Helena Modjeska, who changed her name from "Helena Modrzejewska." Should Pola Negri be moved to "Barbara Apolonia Chałupiec"? Should Joseph Conrad  be listed as "Teodor Józef Korzeniowski"? Cheers,-Willmcw 10:44, 11 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Polish Americans

message: Tnx to the help of dr Marek Jerzy Minakowski, the list of people mentioned in the giant Polish Biographical Dictionary is here: List of Poles from Polski Słownik Biograficzny. Or will be as soon as I can figure how to convert ~25,000 entries into a Wiki-readable format. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 12:53, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polski S&#322;ownik Biograficzny 

message: Why was Jan Łukasiewicz (1878 – 1956) expunged from the roll of Polish philosophers?  His article states:  "He also pursued philosophy, approaching the human aspects of scientific theory-making with ideas similar to those of Karl Popper."  logologist 00:37, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Lukasiewicz the philosopher

message: Konrad Wallenrod was Lithuanian. Someone was sleeping during classes... ;-)
 -Mysekurity  e-mail 01:08, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Konrad Wallenrod