Talk:War of Jenkins' Ear

message: Said article - "The War of Jennifer's Ear is the name given to a 1992 controversy in United Kingdom politics, between the opposition Labour Party and the governing Conservative Party. The name is an allusion to the War of Jenkins' Ear, an actual armed conflict of the 18th century."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Jennifer%27s_Ear  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.99.210.174 (talk) 16:43, 1 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reciprocal link and/or reference needed to The War of Jennifer's Ear article of Wikipedia due to the allusion

message: Is it Jenkins's Jenkins' or Jenkin's?  It appears to be in there 3 times.  I know they're all the same thing, but shouldn't an effort be made to regularize usage, &c?
According to Apostrophe  it would be Jenkins's --207.177.67.214 02:05, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be Jenkins's. Jenkins' would be used if more than person named Jenkins had lost their ear. Jenkin's would be used if one person named Jenkin (no s at the end) had lost his ear. There is near universal incorrect use in Wikipedia of apostrophe of possession in words that denote a singular entity in possession of something when that word ends in s. I'll change it. At least I try (talk) 09:17, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Your assertion is wrong: either form is correct. However, in spoken English the preference is not to add an additional 's' because that makes it more difficult to pronounce. If we have a few consistent contemporary sources we can use whatever form they do, but until someone produces them, we'll stick with the long standing version. Wiki-Ed (talk) 13:12, 28 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apostrophe question 

message: Merge the two - absolutely merge.  Bubba73 (talk), 03:33, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The only difference in the title is the type of apostrophe. Bubba73 (talk), 15:20, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Merge. Obviously two articles on the same subject. Make War of Jenkins’ Ear a REDIRECT to War of Jenkins' Ear --Grstain | Talk 18:09, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I haven't read them carefully.  Is there any material in one that needs to go into the other?  Bubba73 (talk), 18:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text:  Then someone needs to do it.  I don't think that I'm knowledgeable enough about the history of the war to do it.  I'm only in it because a couple of the battles of it took place near here.  Bubba73 (talk), 04:25, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge? 

message: States that Walpole declared war.  But the Prime Minister has no such power, only the monarch.  --Daniel C. Boyer 14:18, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That was George II, and as the wiki article on him notes, "As king, he exercised little control over policy in his early reign, the government instead being controlled by Great Britain's first de facto Prime Minister, Sir Robert Walpole."... The situation was a lot like now, I think. One talks about Tony Blair, not Elizabeth II, invading Iraq, for example.
Furius (talk) 12:57, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Declaration of War

message: The map on this page needs to be changed. It isn't in English. --User:Wikipedian1234 February 18th, 2008  —Preceding comment was added at 00:20, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Map

message: I removed a reference to Jenkins' Ear being the cause of the war. It wasn't, territorial and trading disputes were. The issue of Jenkins' Ear was just held up as an example of the popular mood in Britain at the time and it became something of a cause celebre. However the incident had in fact taken place in 1731, seven years before he appeared before parliament to testify about his mistreatment and eight before war actually broke out.Lord Cornwallis (talk) 18:56, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Jenkins' Ear

message: Does anyone know where the ear is now? British Museum? Public Record Office?
House of Commons Library?
Well, this is un-cited anecdote, but FWIW--when I was a child in Jacksonville, Florida, c.1958, a girl brought for show & tell or something, a human ear, which was a family heirloom.She said it was Jenkins' ear. It was brown, and a a tad shriveled; I held it in my hand. It was undoubtedly a genuine human ear; I can still recall the tiny white hairs on it. Whether it was actually Jenkins', I cannot say with any veracity.
Wow, human ear? That was some show & tell ! I just brought rocks and frogs, mostly. Gulbenk (talk) 19:52, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Where is it now?

message: What is the relationship between this war and King George's War?  It seems they're at least close enough there should be mutual references.  Papercrab (talk) 20:02, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They overlap with each other (and with the War of the Austrian Succession) in an ill-defined and messy way. Lord Cornwallis (talk) 02:45, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it really that ill-defined?  The War of Jenkins' Ear was the Anglo-Spanish war fought between 1739 and 1749.  King George's War was the Anglo-French war between 1744 and 1748, as fought in the American colonies.  The War of the Austrian Succession was a broader European War from 1740 to 1748, which came to incorporate the War of Jenkins' Ear and of which King George's War was a part. john k (talk) 05:13, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  King George's War 

message: I recently found several sources in my own family that claim that one of my ancestors -- a Huguenot living in London whose grandfather had come there from France -- arrived in America as part of a British regiment involved in the War of Jenkins' Ear. There aren't many published histories of that war, and none that are recent, but it seems clear that British military activity -- by troops from Great Britain, that is -- was confined to the Caribbean. The invasion of Georgia was by Spanish forces and was met by colonial troops already resident in Georgia. The guy I'm interested in, however, almost certainly showed up first on the Chesapeake, in either Virginia or Maryland. And it's entirely possibly he was part of a "routine" military deployment, or maybe a replacement of one regiment by another. Does anyone here know whether any British units were deployed to the mainland colonies as part of the war effort, perhaps as part of contingency planning? (Assuming anyone had the time to think that far ahead.) Or can you point me to a more detailed history of units of British regulars in the war? --Michael K. Smith (talk) 21:03, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  British military on the mainland? 

message: The following statement in the Georgia subparagraph is not exactly true: "Border clashes between Florida and Georgia continued for the next few years, but there were no further offensive operations on the American mainland by either nation." Oglethorpe lead a less well know attempt to take Augustine in 1743, but this also failed. Shortly after that attempt, he sailed home to England to face some charges of a jealous subordinate, was acquitted, but never returned to the Georgia colony. The statement is therefore inaccurate. Unless there is an objection made on this discussion, I'll update that paragraph in a week or two. DanQuigley 03:23, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Georgia Inaccuracy

message: The article says "on 10 July 1739 King George II authorized the Admiralty Board to seek maritime reprisals against Spain."  It has no source citation for that.
The king's two orders are actually dated 15 June 1739.  See Calendar of State Papers, Colonial Series: America and West Indies, 1739, ed. K. G. Davies [London: HMSO, 1994]): Documents 215, 215i.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.166.236.227 (talk) 16:47, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Added. If you have any more references then please let us know. Wiki-Ed (talk) 22:38, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date George II authorized "reprisals" against Spain 

message: As discussed by Alpheus and others above, "Jenkins's" is the more correct spelling and is the one used in most reliable sources. Does anyone mind that change to the name of the page? Moonraker (talk) 15:23, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's that simple. Different sources use different conventions. Some prefer the additional S, some don't. I haven't been able to find a contemporary source - I think that would be the best way to decide in this case. Wiki-Ed (talk) 20:45, 21 October 2014 (UTC)

text: Familiarise yourself with how Wikipedia works before commenting. Wiki-Ed (talk) 20:54, 10 January 2017 (UTC)

text: Actually, multiple sources claim that the additional s is either optional or omitted under certain circumstances. clpo13(talk) 21:00, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Correction to "Jenkins's Ear"

message: "After a fiercy defense of governor Gabriel José de Zuloaga troops, the commodore Knowles having suffered 97 killed and 308 wounded over three days, decided to retire west before sunrise on 6 March. [....] On 28 March, he sent his smaller ships to cruise off Puerto Cabello, and once his main body had been refitted by forces of governor Zuluaga, went to sea again on 31 March."
Are governor Zuloaga and governor Zuluaga the same person? If so, why would he be fiercely fighting Knowles on the 6th, then "refitting" him three weeks later? Could use some clarification by someone with a good source.Tomseattle (talk) 22:34, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: O Hai, I just fixed this problem in *2019*. Introduced by this edit August 2015. Maybe more of that editor's edits should be reviewed. I guess not only do people not read the talk pages, but don't really read the article! (yourself excepted) Shenme (talk) 01:55, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: 2nd Attack on La Guaira problem

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: "At a favourable moment, when English traders were urging a renewal of aggressive war against Spain, earless Jenkins was exhibited in the House of Commons" Samuel Eliot Morison "The Oxford History of the American People" (1965) OUP, p155 194.207.86.26 (talk)
:Are you suggesting an addition, or a change? Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 16:54, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a mention of this fact, with source, to the article. Thanks, IP user. Carlstak (talk) 19:00, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Carlstak. And thanks IP. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:26, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not ear but Jenkins. 

message: What became of Governor Spotswood’s remains? What was the name of the vessel he was on? Who was the ship’s Captain? Was there a ship’s log?
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thread_title:  Governor Spotswood 

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