Template talk:Cite Catholic Encyclopedia

message: What if I know the volume and its year of publication (earlier than 1913)? --84.20.17.84 11:19, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is meant to be a shorthand for citing the text available on newadvent and wikisource, which is often referred to as a "1913" edition although volumes were released from 1907 to 1913. The full encyclopedia citing template is , and it doesn't seem good to recreate too much of the full template here. If the volume and more specific year of publication are important, that template can be used, though I think that will be fairly rare. Gimmetrow 00:58, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year and Volume 

message: ...is the point of being able to reference NA and WS? Isn't the point of WS that it's a place for sources but is within WMF's sphere? 68.39.174.238 13:00, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Options, mainly. At present the WS text is missing a chunk and has no images. Gimmetrow 15:47, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What exactly... 

message: Please unlink/unautoformat the accessdate parameter. This is no longer common practice, and has been deprecated in , ,  etc. Inconsistent formatting makes Wikipedia reference sections look unprofessional and haphazard. Thank you, Skomorokh 17:07, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This template calls cite encyclopedia template. All changes should be made to the latter. Ruslik (talk) 17:18, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Datelinks 

message: This template option: [[wikisource:Catholic Encyclopedia (1913)/Ecclesiastical Heraldry "|Ecclesiastical Heraldry]"] would seem to generate a broken link. Shouldn't it be "Ecclesiastical Heraldry", or "Ecclesiastical Heraldry"? Lithoderm 04:35, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed, I think. This used a trick to get an interwiki to wikisource, and the trick probably quit working with this change to .. Gimmetrow 07:00, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken link? 

message: I think we should add the source category :Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating text from the 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia to the template.
I propose we add the following code to both this and the  template:
Category:Wikipedia articles incorporating text from the 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia
--Eastlaw (talk) 10:12, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Struck request, I no longer think it is necessary to add the category to this template.  --Eastlaw (talk) 19:41, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hidden category for source 

message: How does one encode an argument for "wstitle" like All Saints' Day so that the apostrophe does not get mapped to .27 and break the link? Bob Burkhardt (talk) 14:23, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Works now. Gimmetrow 14:42, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 14:57, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apostrophe 

message: Please add "" to the two images in this template for greater WP:ACCESSIBILITY by visually impaired readers, as per WP:ALT#Purely decorative images.  shows how. Thanks. Eubulides (talk) 06:59, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:11, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accessibility improvement 

message: It would be convenient to link to Wikisource, but not have the icon.  This is useful when it appears in a  list.  Cain and Abel currently seems to be crying out for this treatment, but a Wikisource icon in the list as well as at the beginning of the list seems like too much.  I implemented this at the request of another user for .  Something like the current "short" flag in this CathEncy would seem appropriate, but call it "noicon". Bob Burkhardt (talk) 15:19, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: . Would you mind updating the documentation? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: . Thanks again. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 20:16, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikisource link without the icon 

message: Please make the icon optional.  This can be done by replacing
 
with

See my previous discussion item for the rationale.  Please note there is a non-breaking space in both of these lines.  With this edit in place, the icon can be removed by specifying noicon=x in addition to the value for wstitle. Thanks.
Bob Burkhardt (talk) 19:54, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: . Would you mind updating the documentation? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:48, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: . Thanks again. Bob Burkhardt (talk) 20:16, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Bob Burkhardt, 15 July 2010 

message: I want to make some changes to this template.
See above #Year and Volume. I think that year and volume should be added. The default year can remain 1913 but I think that if year is overwritten of a volume number if given then the date of the copyright should be displayed. This can be automated as it is in 
  | volume = 
 | year = 
This is an extension to the current template and it will not affect the current appearance. -- PBS (talk) 12:22, 6 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year and volume 2 

message: A display parameter, as appears in  and many similar templates, would be handy here as well.  It would enable artificial titles generated by disambiguation (for example "Able (1)" and "St. Germain (2)") to be given a more genuine looking text. An attempt to use such a parameter appears in Germanus of Auxerre. Library Guy (talk) 18:11, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  display parameter 

message: As of now, this Template's output contains a red-text error message that reads "article name needed"; please, an Admin with access to editing this Template, fill the appropriate parameter to get rid of that error message. Since I'm not an Admin but at least pointed it out, take this as a Request. The Mysterious El Willstro (talk) 04:27, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: If possible, please link to an article where you see this problem. It is not a problem for the template page itself to show this error message; it demonstrates what happens when you do not supply an article name. – Jonesey95 (talk) 05:24, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Category:Articles incorporating a citation from the 1913 Catholic Encyclopedia with no article parameter (1,195 articles listed) which is a good reason to keep the red error message, because otherwise Wikipedia is saying to a reader "you can find the relevant information yourself somewhere among the 11,000 articles in the 15 volumes". -- PBS (talk) 21:30, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: That is exactly what I did, find the article myself. It took less than a minute because the articles are listed in alphabetical order in the Catholic Encyclopedia. Here's an article with that problem, Isidore of Kiev. I found his Catholic Encyclopedia article title, Isidore_of_Thessalonica, but have nowhere to put it in the existing template.--FeralOink (talk) 10:17, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: When there is a Wikisource article, you can do this to fix the problem. This template's documentation seems pretty clear to me, but if you can think of a better way to illustrate how to use it, please improve the documentation. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:49, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to fix this error message?