Talk:Ultra (cryptography)

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thread_title:  Another Turing 

message: The name MKUltra comes from Ultra, in reference, specifically, to it's extreme secretiveness.  I therefore object to Trekphiler's revision, /especially their off-hand dismissive comment in so performing.Slarty1 (talk) 20:06, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: You've missed the point of the page, which you evidently didn't read. MKUltra is a psywar project having nothing to do with crypto. As such, it has no relevance here. Coincidence doesn't get it (& I shouldn't even waste time answering this, actually, it's so clear).  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 09:28, 12 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:   Wow dude!  I don't see it.  The argument might not b as strong as I'd like, but I think the argument could b made that the fact that MKUltra litterally got the ultra part of it's name from Ultra, is a notable link.  We might have to take this arg to the next level.Slarty1 (talk) 21:44, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: If it were in a section on 'influence' that gave the context of 'this is how the project's name has been used since,' it might belong on this page.  But I think listing it among articles that have much more substantial ties is not warranted. The interest is more the other direction, Ultra appears to be more important to MkUltra than the other way around. --John (User:Jwy/talk) 15:35, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: If there were more than coincidence in naming, I might agree. What's the history of the selection of the naming of the MKUltra program? Was it chosen as an "ultra secret" project? (Which is peripherally related, but no more.) Or was it a product of the name-selection process, like Igloo White? (That makes it obviously unrelated.) If you can't tell the difference between sigint & psywar, you really have no business adding the link in the first place.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura 04:06, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: MkUltra

message: In "Pearl Harbor: Warning and Decision" (Stanford University
Press, 1962, page 173) Roberta Wohlstetter wrote:
"In 1941 there were only four of them [US Army reproductions
of the Japanese PURPLE machine] in existence. The Army and
Navy each had one machine in Washington; one had been sent to
Cavite in the Philippines and was manned by Fleet Intelligence
officers from the 16th Naval District, and a fourth had been
sent to Great Britain in return for the keys and machines
necessary to decode German codes and ciphers."
This is clearly an early reference to Ultra, but I'm not sure
whether it counts as a public disclosure of any secrets; it
does not mention Enigma or Ultra by name, and by 1962 it could
not have been a secret that all of the WWII combatants were
trying to read the others' communications.
24.170.225.153 (talk) 17:00, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  1962 public reference 

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