Talk:Prayer rug

message: What is the story or meaning behind the prayer mat that gives it significance?
Is it acceptable to use the prayer mat for non-prayer related purposes? Is it permitted to use the mat at times other than prayer?Tdomine 09:56, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Significance

message: :Any additional comments:
*Prayer mat. That is what most people call it in English. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:28, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WP:ENGLISH, the article should be titled according to the most commonly used name in English, regardless of the culture from which the subject originated.  Unless you can demonstrate that Janamaz is the most commonly used term in English, it's not a viable title.  I see you oppose Prayer mat; do you think Prayer rug would be better?  Baileypalblue (talk) 10:33, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely "prayer rug" is better than "prayer mat", and I will support for "prayer rug", if I have to chose between these two. But "janamaz" is it's name, whereas "prayer mat" is a kind of descriptive title and according to wiki naming rules for descriptive titles we should not necessarily see it's frequency of repetition in sources, but to chose better matched title. When there is a discussion between "prayer mat" and "prayer rug", it means that non of them can stand as accurate as "janamaz". --Wayiran (talk) 12:03, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Despite your preference for "Janamaz" or "Prayer rug" over "Prayer mat" you've made no effort to change the text of the article since moving it. This smacks more of hit-and-run POV editing than a serious change. How would you have felt if another editor had imposed "musallah" or "sajjāda" to impose their cultural POV? Bazj (talk) 13:00, 18 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: * Look at this old edit! Apparently a few months ago an anon editor removed most of the content of the article (perhaps accidentally, or as vanadlism). The edit, however, has never been reverted, and since then the article has "grown" back to a respectable size, but without the lost content ever being restored. Anyone cares to bring back the old content and to merge it into the current article? Vmenkov (talk) 10:49, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Content loss

message: I badly screwed up the rename of this page as discussed above, which I intended to be "Prayer rug", and can't fix it without administrative help, which I've just now requested. Sorry about that. Eubulides (talk) 09:21, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  I messed up the page rename 

message: Parts of this article should be re-written to reflect professional standards.  For example, let's look at this paragraph:
===== "We remain challenged by the question of why so many rugs have survived in the Lutheran Churches of the Saxons of Transylvania, who for centuries have shared the region with the Romanian (Orthodox and Catholic) and the Hungarian (Catholic and Calvinist) population. Trade was however the means by which people in Transylvania came into contact with the rich textile production of a foreign culture. The extent of this trade can be judged from the much quoted Braşov vigesimal register of 1503, which states that over 500 Turkish rugs entered the town during the year! Rugs represented one of Turkey’s most significant exports and were especially favoured by local Saxon and Hungarian communities but many travelled further to North, to Lvov and other centres. Neighbouring areas south and north of the Danube were also involved in these trading activities and rugs were highly appreciated as well. Nevertheless nothing comparable to the Transylvanian ‘miracle’ took place in any of those areas." =====
The term "we" is never used in encyclopedic scholarly articles.  The wording is awkward, and the use of the exclamation point is a demonstration of the lack of neutrality.  No citation exists.  I question the professionalism of the article for these and similar reasons.
:: It reads to me like it has been copied and pasted from a book. 131.217.255.204 (talk) 04:37, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wording and Citation 

message: The term "we" is never used in encyclopedic scholarly articles.  The wording is awkward, and the use of the exclamation point is a demonstration of the lack of neutrality.  No citation exists.  I question the professionalism of the article for these and similar reasons.
:: It reads to me like it has been copied and pasted from a book. 131.217.255.204 (talk) 04:37, 5 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "We remain challenged by the question of why so many rugs have survived in the Lutheran Churches of the Saxons of Transylvania, who for centuries have shared the region with the Romanian (Orthodox and Catholic) and the Hungarian (Catholic and Calvinist) population. Trade was however the means by which people in Transylvania came into contact with the rich textile production of a foreign culture. The extent of this trade can be judged from the much quoted Braşov vigesimal register of 1503, which states that over 500 Turkish rugs entered the town during the year! Rugs represented one of Turkey’s most significant exports and were especially favoured by local Saxon and Hungarian communities but many travelled further to North, to Lvov and other centres. Neighbouring areas south and north of the Danube were also involved in these trading activities and rugs were highly appreciated as well. Nevertheless nothing comparable to the Transylvanian ‘miracle’ took place in any of those areas." 

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