Talk:Kingdom Hearts/Archive 2

message: In the level, Wonderland, in the beginning, Alice is kidnapped by the two cards, the Hearts, and is held captive and locked up in a cage, and then as you beat halfway through the level, Deep Jungle, she appears in the scene where Maleficent from Sleeping Beauty asks the question, "Who could the princess be?", and then Alice steps up, even though Alice isn't a princess and is just a beautiful lady. --ZachKudrna18@yahoo.com.
: ... Princess of "Heart"; Being a Princess of Heart doesn't prelude that you rule your own kingdom. Look at Bell, she's not really a princess, only via Beast is she Royalty via loop hole. Additionally Kari isn't necessarily a princess, only a former resident of Hollow Bastion. --DaWooster
::Alice=Beatiful Lady? She's a young girl!Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 16:08, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alice's Appearances 

message: I've unfortunately never played the game, so I'm not quite clear: did the original Disney actors record voices for the game, or were phrases from the movies re-used? Thanks.
--SarekOfVulcan 00:35, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: They did voice their dialogue specifically for this game. --Apostrophe 01:46, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? In my opinion many of them sound quite different, while other sound exactly the same.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 16:09, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Some voice actors were the originals, some weren't. --DJKingpin 17:18, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voices in Kingdom Hearts 

message: Which apes?
All the important ones from the first movie.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 16:09, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  several apes from Tarzan 

message: The article Another side, another story needs to be merged here as there isn't enough information in it to stand alone. Please voice your opinion below, Support, Oppose, or Comment, below. ˑˑˑ日本穣 Talk to Nihonjoε 20:16, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge "Another side, another story"

message: It's not Mandy Moore, but Mena Suvari that does the English version voice over for Aerith.
:In KINGDOM HEARTS II. ' (Feeling chatty? ) (Edits!) 07:17, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: it's Mandy Moore. FOOQwerasdfzxcvvcxz 16:10, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Mandy Moore does it in KH I but Mena Suvari does it in the second. See http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0390163/fullcredits Marty Donakowski 22:03, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mandy Moore? 

message: I'm pretty sure everyone's been hearing about this rumor for a long time now...
I can't remember where, but I'm pretty sure I can comfirm that the rumor is true. Electronic Gamer published a major article about Kingdom Hearts and in it, the creator of Kingdom Hearts had an interview with Electronic Gamer and stated that if a movie were to happen, he would be very interested as well to be a part of the team.
I can't find the source or quote it (and I appologize) but I would love it if someone could confirm and add this to the Kingdom Hearts wiki entry.
:Tell me how Nomura saying he'd be interesting in participating if there was such a project is confirmation of one. urutapu 05:30, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll settle this. I still have that very copy of the magazine, and I'll pull it out right now, and quote it. ...Directing a Kingdom Hearts DG movie: "If we were to create it, I would definately consider it and the movie possible."  There you have it. Quoted directly from the magazine. I will scan the darned thing onto my computer to prove it if I need to. Besides, even if there was to be a Kingdom Hearts movie, we wouldn't see it for a while. At least not until KH2: Final Mix + comes out. MissRora 04:05, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rumors of the Kingdom Hearts Movie 

message: I don't understand why everyone keeps saying Mickey got his keyblade in the darkness of Kingdom Hearts, when the Secret Ansem Report #2 from Kingdom Hearts 2 says that Mickey already had his keyblade before KH 1 even started.  I deleted the part that says he got it from the realm of darkness and changed a few other minor flaws on the page.  It also said "where the three where confined all their lives" or something like that.  Anyway I changed it so that it says Kairi came from Radiant Garden.
:I don't recall anyone saying he got it from the darkness of Kingdom Hearts, but just from the realm of darkness. "Radiant Garden" is not relevant to KH1, It's a plot element in KH2. Kairi is revealed to be from Hollow Bastion only in the Ansem Reports, otherwise Kairi's been at Destiny Islands for her whole life. She wants to get off too, y'know. - Zero1328 Talk? 11:23, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No she hasn't been there her whole life. Unfortunately I am presently unable to find proof of this, but I recall Riku saying if it weren't for Kairi they'd have never known there are other worlds out there. Or something to that effect, anyway.MissRora 04:10, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, there was a flashback scene in KH1 that showed a young Kairi talking to her grandmother in the library of Hallow Bastion.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 02:42, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mickey's Keyblade 

message: If it's at all worth mentioning (which it's probably not), the version of Simple And Clean (Hikari also, I believe) is a short version of the PLANITb Remix, not the original.
:Indeed, the opening versions of Simple and Clean, and Hikari are PLANITb remixes. And I have bluelaguna.net (these folks downloaded the entire soundtrack onto their website, so logically they would've copied the names of each song directly from the track list on the disc) to back me up.MissRora 04:27, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simple And Clean 

message: The editor of this article after me brought up a very good point: citations.  The information I typed I got from a livejournal community, where a user posted a very persuasive entry about what I typed in the criticism.  And since this Kingdom Hearts Community is very huge, and with many comments saying they agree, I believed it eventually became common knowledge, so I put it.  Would you consider this to be ok?
- ManVsMachine 11:02, 18 July 2006
:Well, I've actually never heard that, ever...o.o—ウルタプ 21:24, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never heard that either, which is why I put in a request for citation. I think if we had a link to the livejournal post, that'd be better than nothing, but I had a problem with the wording as I felt it contained weasel words and that it was a minority view. Nonetheless, I'm open to keeping it if the language is toned down (ie, changing heavy reliability to just relied) and this criticism is cited - preferably to two sources or a discussion of the argument with many having the view. Nonethess, thanks for discussing this! Marty Donakowski 22:13, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: I'm sure I'm going to be blacklisted by tons of editors here for suggesting this but does this article really need a voice cast section? Taking two featured articles as an example (Excel Saga and Final Fantasy X), I would say that such a noticable list in the main article not only is not helpful but also detracts from the article as a whole. This isn't to say that it isn't helpful at all (as I have looked up voice actor names several times here), but I feel that it would be better served as a separate article with a link if nothing else. I've also voiced this concern at the Kingdom Hearts II page. Axem Titanium 02:42, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it definatly belongs in this article, the game is a hybrid of movie storylines and video game play; as such, it deserves a list of voice actors Marty Donakowski 16:38, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I could see a paragraph about how this game's voice cast is special (in that it recasts the original voices for the work) but not an entire voice cast section, especially if it lists every single character. In fact, most of it is repeated in the List of Kingdom Hearts characters article and I would be happy to finish adding voice actors in that article. Also, I don't like the way it's written out. A good template to follow would be from Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children where a table lists the characters' names and are followed by their english and japanese language actors. Axem Titanium 18:53, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I reverted your edits since no one has agreed that the voice section is superfluous. If more people feel it as such, I can understand an edit, but until some more discuss here (and please do if you would like it to be gone) it should remain.Marty Donakowski 23:58, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To quote Apostrophe's (and my) argument, "Keep in mind that Final Fantasy X had to nuke its VA list to get Featured Article status." However, if you really want to keep it somewhere (for example, Voice actors in the Kingdom Hearts series), see User:Axem Titanium/Kingdom Hearts voice cast for a voice actor table I started. Axem Titanium 01:52, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Since Apostrophe agrees with you, I'll accept the change. Marty Donakowski 22:43, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voice cast section? 

message: Why was it removed? Marty Donakowski 23:58, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To quote Apostrophe again, "Trivia sections are a excuse to dump information without actually adding to the article. NONE of the featured articles have trivia sections, and for good reason." Axem Titanium 01:53, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia Section 

message: I, for one, think that this should go back into it. It says it's not related enough, but in some ways IT HAS EVERYTHING to do with FF. There are alot of characters from it, it has the names of some of the magic in FF (e.g. fira, blizzara) and there are some people who think Kingdom hearts is Final fantasy, but in another timeline. Trunksamurai 20:46, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Go argue about it there. Personally, I'm sure I could get anyone from there to copyedit this page if necessary. FA push sometime this month, yo! Axem Titanium 03:39, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Kingdom Hearts does not have everything to do with Final Fantasy. The two have a number of similarities, of course. The central element of the plot, however (Sora's trying to find Riku and Kairi) has nothing to do with FF. As far as the timeline theory goes, explain that to with with undeniable logic, and have credible sources to back you up, and maybe some poor sucker will believe you.MissRora 04:17, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:   WikiProject Final Fantasy