Talk:Valleyspeak

message: The words "Baldwin," Loadie," "Monet," and "Postal" all came from the 1995 movie Clueless and were NOT in usage in the 1970s or 1980s. Those words were in fact, invented for the movie and were not even in usage before it became popular. I removed them from the Valspeak glossary.
:If they have entered the Valspeak vocabulary, I propose to restore them ~~
:: I would suggest putting them in a separate section with an appropriate explanation.  Thanks.   — Lee J Haywood 06:40, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed Pictureuploader 08:36, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

text: "Loadie" has a life outside "clueless" and the Valley. I say it doesn't belong in Valspeak at all. It's been used since at least the '50's to describe person who... guess what... gets loaded. 198.49.180.40 00:32, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Words

message: Oh my god we like totally need a like an audio file (or multiple audio files) for this article. It is a totally great asset to like, people who want to totally like need to stop talking like me. pfftsh, like shut up, what EVRRR! RZ heretic 05:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Like, whatever ... Maikel (talk) 23:15, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  AUDIO FILES? 

message: Gross, as in disgusting, was also part of Valspeak (and may have originated there), and was not otherwise in widespread use circa 1982. Now that it's universally understood, its origins in this context seem to have been forgotten; for example, Kate Winslett's character uses the term in the film Hideous Kinky, set in the early 1970s, even though the term became familiar in Britain only circa 1990. Whatever the case, it's not listed in this article.  ProhibitOnions  (T) 09:51, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Gross"

message: There is not enough information on how it has influenced and been influenced by other dialects. For instance, some of the slang seems to have come from the Skateboarding and Surfing subculture, but none of this is addressed in the article. I am most curious about how Valleyspeak influenced the MTV generation, that demographic in which most MTV viewers come from, and how it spread to mainstream culture. If Valleyspeak really did beget most of that slang, it has had an enormous influence on young people, in other words, my generation! Rintrah 18:24, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relation to Other Dialects 

message: Doesn't "psych" also mean "got you!"?  
 
:: I was under the impression that was its only meaning.
Question, what sociolect or dialect does "nice" belong to? Long emphasis on the "iii"
:My impression is that "niiice" is more of a surfer term than "Valspeak", but it may have some other primary usage. -<B> ·:·</B> Will Beback  ·:·  19:49, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vocabulary 

message: I say this subject is about a sociolect, not a dialect, and changed it accordingly... Loial 03:24, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sociolect 

message: Then use the definition of it instead of the obscure "partially universal" term.
99.231.223.151 05:22, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Define "partially universal" 

message: Whoever added that tag needs to get a life, or spend more time actually writing articles. Maikel (talk) 23:14, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: This article needs additional citations for verification

message: was written in a deliberately satirical manner, particularly the "Vocabulary". Would fit in better on Uncyclopedia. --dicttrshp 17:26, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: This article

message: This article actually give no example of ValSpeak. So even though I know where it came from I have no idea what it is. Can someone please include example? Cls14 (talk) 11:17, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: What is ValSpeak?

message: The following is currently an item in the article:
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"Worst (something) ever!"
Meaning: Short for "This is the worst (something) I have ever seen!"
Usage: Usually said with significant pauses between each word.
Example: "Worst. Movie. Ever (sometimes written as "evar")!"
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The phrase itself is arguably valspeak, but "significant pauses between each word" sounds closer to a usage popularized by "The Simpsons."  Certainly the spelling of "ever" as "evar" is NOT part of valspeak, but instead something that started as Internet slang.
99.231.110.182 (talk) 01:54, 6 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Worst ---- ever! 

message: "Oh my Gawd"
"bitchen"
"far out"
"hurt me"
"total bummer"
"freaking out"
"bag your face"
"for sure, for sure"
"I am so sure"
"barf me out"
"gag me"
"gag me with a spoon"
"groty"  "...to the max"   :) Thank you Zappa family!
75.88.188.242 (talk) 19:20, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Words (From The Song [[Valley Girl]]) 

message: Just FYI - the whole Valley Girl phenomenon started with teens who would hang out at Sherman Oaks Fashion Square (now Westfield Fashion Square ) in the early 1970s. This was also the beginning of the "mall rats" phenomenon. (The Sherman Oaks Galleria depitced in the 1980s movie was actually the hangout of the next generation of Valley Girls.) This information is directly from the women involved.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.209.221.203 (talk) 21:28, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see Talk:Valley_girl#Started_earlier. - SummerPhD (talk) 00:17, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins 

message: The point on Valley use of "like" contradicts Discourse marker, and in fact commits a mischaracterization that's actually addressed as being archaic in that article.
Either the article should not make the assertion that "like" is a discourse marker, or it should not make the assertion that "like" is meaningless filler to stall for time. These two theories are mutually exclusive.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.15.133.249 (talk) 10:13, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Like" as a discourse marker. 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: #I really like the opening paragraph that provides the general overview of Valleyspeak and its cultural impacts!
#The origin tab (through my limited knowledge of valley speak) seems solid, although there is a necessary citation for the mention of Cher Horowitz, and I think a couple more public figures who exemplify valleyspeak might not hurt.
#A citation is needed for this claim, "This lends itself to explicit language ideologies about dialects in the area as they receive more scrutiny than dialects in other nearby regions."
#Although I know it is not meant to be insulting or to be presenting an opinion, it might be good to rewrite this sentence (Linguistic characteristics of "valley girl" or "California" speak are often thought to be "silly" and "superficial" and seen as a sign of low intelligence.) in a way that presents less bias against the use of valley speak. If this is reflective of a general trend in which people do associate valley speak with low intelligence and superficiality, a citation to the study should be added here.
#Same comment as above with the next few sentences.
# I guess this is a feature of the prevalence of the stereotype, but I didn't know the fact presented in the second paragraph in the Language Ideology section
#I think that the last paragraph of the Language Ideology section will need some additional work. For one, some more prominent researchers than a grad students might want to be used (and also should be cited!) if 'Many researchers' have analyzed these trends. In addition, there is a good deal of grammatical disagreement in this paragraph that should be addressed. 
#It appears to me that the final section, "Features/Qualifiers" is very well developed
Jb8527a (talk) 00:55, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Valleyspeak Peer Review for L.charlie99