Talk:Adolf Hitler/Archive 14

message: In the 10th bullet under the "Trivia" section, I think that phrase should be changed to "given his name at birth" to show that very few babies are actually born with name tags. StuRat 23:33, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Born with his name" ? 

message: 'IMDb' in the first trivia entry should be a link to the article.
=== Bizarre trivia ===
I have a very conflicting piece of trivia I gained from various documentaries and books that I want to verify.  On Hitler's desk there is a picture of:
* only Mussolini
* only Henry Ford
* only his mother
* none, he disliked having pictures in his office
**Well, on the wall he had the famous portrait of the Frederick the Great.  O'Donnell mentions the picture of his mother, but he also mentioned the Führer's personal standard was yellow instead of red, so take with grains of salt.Michael Dorosh 15:40, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: I have a very conflicting piece of trivia I gained from various documentaries and books that I want to verify.  On Hitler's desk there is a picture of:
* only Mussolini
* only Henry Ford
* only his mother
* none, he disliked having pictures in his office
**Well, on the wall he had the famous portrait of the Frederick the Great.  O'Donnell mentions the picture of his mother, but he also mentioned the Führer's personal standard was yellow instead of red, so take with grains of salt.Michael Dorosh 15:40, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bizarre trivia 

message: My thoughts about the papacy, the popes and the history of the Roman Catholic Church aside: As Pope Benedict XVI has made public good will gestures towards the Jewish People (among other faiths) would it be a sign of ultimate atonement for him to excommunicate Hitler from the Catholic Church?  Is it possible for him to excommunicate a dead person?
--RPlunk 17:55, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Excommunication does not need to be declared by the church. AFAICS Hitler fell to a [excommunicatio latae sententiae] by acting in an apostatic  way. This can be discussed, but anyhow, as Str1977 wrote: since Hitler is dead, there is no neccesity (and no possibility) to excommunicate him, because he can not change his acting anymore. And even Pope Benedict can not excommunicate a dead person. --mmg 00:31, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

text: Mmg, thanks for your further clarification. That's what I meant by "the Church can declare that someone dead had incurred excommunication while alive (there are action that will get oneself automatically excommunicated)" and I guess apostasy is only the tip of the ice-berg of things that will automatically excommunicate someone - but I agree that Hitler is guilty of that (and many other things - he surely scores 7 out of 7). Str1977 18:04, 23 November 2005 (UTC)

text: In any case, excommunication is not an act of ultimate condemnation, as seems to commonly be believed, rather it is simply the formal exclusion of someone from the community of the Catholic Church for theologically-oriented offenses such as desecrating the Eucharist, propagating anti-Catholic theological beliefs, violating the sanctity of the Vatican, and so on. It is not leveled against someone merely for not following the dictates of the Church, no matter how radically the person deviates (unless the person assaults the Church directly, although I suppose that was the case insofar as many priests, especially Polish ones, died in the Holocaust [but it would *not*, as far as I can tell, apply to the killing of the Jews, which often seems to be rationale given]).--Critic9328 16:05, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excommunication 

message: From "Early Years":
: Alois Hitler was born out of wedlock and used his mother's surname, Schicklgruber, until he was 40. In 1876, he began using the name of his stepfather, Johann Georg Hiedler, after visiting a priest responsible for birth registries and declaring that Georg was his father...
This doesn't make sense to me.  He was born in 1889, used Schicklgruber until he was 40, but began using "Hiedler" in 1876?  These numbers don't add up.  Can someone clarify? 71.139.49.248 03:38, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Alois Hitler was born in 1837, not 1889. Shanes 04:02, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification on Schicklgruber name