Talk:Snowdonia

message: Hiya.  I've got a picture at :Image:Bristly_ridge_in_winter.jpg if that's any use to this, or similar articles.  Ojw 00:07, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry to be a "wet blanket" but we really need colour pics of a National Park and yours is black and white. Others may be happy with black and white, but I'm sure colour pics will come along soon enough. Cheers! - Adrian Pingstone 09:47, 5 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black n white pic 

message: I'm not sure this page should be classfied Category:Geology of the United Kingdom. Apart from a brief mention of slate at Blaenau Ffestiniog, there's no geologising at all.
-- Pseudonym 16:30, 8 Aug 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geology 

message: Please do not add commercial links or links to your own private websites to Wikipedia. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for advertising or a mere collection of external links. You are, however, encouraged to add content instead of links to the encyclopedia. If you feel the link should be added to the article, then please discuss it on the article's talk page rather than re-adding it. See the welcome page to learn more about Wikipedia. Thank you. --Nigel (Talk) 15:40, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Reaction rather than thought but I'll think it through and put on some more tomorrow.  I think quite a few of the others should go!  Take a look at WP:EL & WP:SPAM and bear in mind that Wiki is not a tourist directory but an encyclopedia (& yes I do like Snowdonia a lot).  The trouble is that there are many - in your words - biased web master or similar who are all sure that their website has something to offer.  They all do but probably not on Wiki.  But I will think about it and get back to you I promise --Nigel  (Talk) 16:24, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

text: OK - looked at all the oethrs (as I had before) nothing there is strictly commercial.  In practice I am not in favour of links (& have removed yours before).  Wiki is an encyclopedia not a directory and external links are rarely valid.  If you want to contribute something other than links (I imagine you know the area well) great but I will be keeping an eye on the page (& plenty of other like it).  Regards --Nigel  (Talk) 09:52, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Hum I detect a hint of sarcasm there.  Interesting point tho - I use a fairly heavy duty HOSTS file (guess where I found the info) so I don't see the ads on it.  However I'll remove that one to and bear that in mind on future sites. If you want to add to wiki - great - if you want to post links to your website then any number of editors will remove it --Nigel  (Talk) 16:23, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: External links on page

message: This section struck me as something of a disguised POV-fest ("we can't say how great Snowdonia is in our own words, but if we quote other people it's all right"). But one or two of them might be useful in context (e.g. a section about tourism and its history), so I'm moving them here.
<Blockquote>
Over the years much has been written about Snowdonia and North Wales, including the following quotes -
*"Views.  Snowdonia has them in such spectacular abundance that you quickly run out of superlatives to describe them.  At the top of every peak a glorious vista unfolds.  Each bend in the road unfurls to reveal a new perspective of gasp-inducing splendour."
:Francis Hardy, Daily Mail reporter, 14.12.2002
*"Perhaps in the whole world there is no region more picturesquely beautiful than Snowdonia, a region of mountains, lakes, cateracts and groves, in which Nature shows herself in her most grand and beautiful forms."
:George Borrow, "Wild Wales", 1862
*"Snowdonia is superbly beautiful country ...."
:John Wyatt, "The National Parks of England & Wales", 1988
*"It (Snowdonia) comprises, within a comparatively small area, some of the loveliest and most varied country that our island has to offer."
:Penguin Guide to North Wales, 1949
*"... collected into a small space, more that is graceful, beautiful and romantic, may be found in North Wales than in any other spot in Europe."
:Louisea Costello,  "The Falls, Lakes and Mountains of North Wales", 1839
</blockquote>
--Blisco 19:06, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it is okay if we quote significant writers to say how a place is appreciated; that Snowdonia has been and continues to be appreciated for its grandeur and natural beauty etc is as much a fact as Beddgelert being a village within it. This is a referenced approach to mentioning those facts though I'd agree that we should not go over the top with it. For myself I'd pick up Borrow's quote as he was one of those responsible for inspiring further visitation so has an almost tangible part in Snowdonia's history.  cheers Geopersona (talk) 20:32, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed from article: "Some quotes"

message: Shouldn't this be merged with Snowdonia National Park?  There seems to be only a very minimal difference in the areas.  Morwen - Talk 15:35, 29 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah. Is there actually a difference? Snowdonia is the national park right? or do they represent slightly different areas? Did the name Snowdonia exist before the national park was declared? Anyone know? -- Nojer2 08:47, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: They Should be merged because it would mean less digging around and being able to use the whole lot offline not just one part
I've proposed a merger of this article with Snowdonia National Park, since (as mentioned by Morwen above) there is minimal difference between the two areas. Admittedly many people, including myself, tend to think of Snowdonia as the Snowdon area excluding the Rhynogydd and Cadair Idris, but the distinction is now fairly blurred; indeed this article covers the whole national park. If there are no objections I'll merge the two in the near future. --Blisco 11:48, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Agree.  I confess I found it strange that there were two pages (while respecting a more local view).  --Herby talk to me 11:52, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I agree.  Go ahead with a merger, but be sure to retain the initial paragraph which clearly defines how the two are perceived.
Hogyn Lleol 13:10, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

text: just been stumbling over the same issue, as interwikilinks are broken because of that. Has there been any progress? Agathoclea (talk) 17:18, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Snowdonia National Park' Merge 

message: The merge of Snowdonia and Snowdonia National Park is causing problems with inter project and inter language links. There are two Wikidata entries d:Q867913 and d:Q20888920 with Wikipedia and Wikivoyage articles listed in both. Usually I would just merge these two lists but there are two separate articles on the subject in Welsh, Breton and Catalan. My knowledge of Gallic languages does not go past road signs so not capable of merging these pages. Proposing to move all language and project articles to Snowdonia were can, unless someone has a better idea? --Traveler100 (talk) 07:35, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: just been stumbling over the same issue, as interwikilinks are broken because of that. Has there been any progress? Agathoclea (talk) 17:18, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issue with the merge 

message: Could someone had a pronounciation guide (IPA) for the Welsh "Eryri"?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.82.101.226 (talk) 07:14, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronouncitation 

message: I've uploaded a location map of Snowdonia to Commons (shown to right). I have not created an associated  template, but this can easily be done if desired. 
If this is created, it will enable creation a map of Snowdonia similar to the one under construction at Talk:Dartmoor#Location map, and could be used in related articles (see this example). Hope people find it useful.--Nilfanion (talk) 22:13, 29 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location map 

message: Could someone add a geology section. What are the rocks composed of? Describe all rocks of which it is formed  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.50.171.220 (talk) 13:37, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Have made a start on that and will expand it yet but reserve most detail for a separate article on the topic which I've already linked to. diolch/thanks Geopersona (talk) 20:26, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Could someone add a new section "Geology"  

message: I've been looking for an article that contains information on the history of people in Snowdonia. Anyone knowledgeable? Thought it might be a good addition.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.7.201.42 (talk) 12:52, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: How about Ordovices for a start ?  Velella  Velella Talk   17:19, 8 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any information on early civilizations? 

message: I was surprised to see how little attention this article had received over many years so decided to do something about it (actually my original aim was to put together a new article on the area's geology which I'm also doing but this one needed some getting into better shape). I've initiated various topics here and hope others will now take some time to develop and reference these more fully (and yes, i'll be adding more references soon myself) diolch/thanks Geopersona (talk) 20:38, 1 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improving the article 

message: An editor added some unsourced content in the above named section. A CN tag is on it now but I was going to just pull it out as WP:UNDUE but then I wondered about the whole section. "In other media" seems like a dumping ground for a random selection of things filmed in Snowdonia. There are only three there now, and only one of them is remotely interesting - but even that is not very interesting. Many things have been filmed in Snowdonia over the years, but what is the point of the section? If it can't be anything but an indiscriminate set of links, I would suggest it can go. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 15:41, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Did consider removing the recent sentence, but it seemed true, so tagged CN, (big chunks of this article are uncited, so they'll have to be checked too). The section in its current state is not necessary and skews quite recent, but I'd prefer it be expanded with sources on potentially more notable uses as you say . But it could be cut now and re-added with more (historical) significance at a later date, so sure it can go for now. DankJae 18:08, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, and as no one else has chipped in, I have removed it. However, placing the link to the specific edit here:  so that it is easily found by any future editor who wants to write a new and improved such section, and might want to access what was there before. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 20:48, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  In other media 

message: The second paragraph of the above section needs to be addressed. It currently reads 
:The origins of Eryri are less clear. Two popular interpretations are that the name is related to eryr, 'eagle', or that it means 'highlands' and is related to the Latin oriri ('to rise'). The latter is considered more correct, for eryri as a plural form means 'uplands', but it is not any direct form of the word eryr in the meaning 'eagle'
The second sentence is not well-supported by the sources, and source seven itself contains claims without a clear source. I edited the section on the 30th to remove any claims of correctness, but this was soon reverted back by @Hogyn Lleol. This follows a back-and-forth last June between myself and Hogyn Lleol over the same issue.
I'm sure there's something we can say about 'uplands' or 'highlands' being the more likely meaning of the name, but the current wording does not work. A.D.Hope (talk) 11:48, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. It wasn't "reverted back" by me, as such; I reinstated a rephrased version which I considered an improvement. But as you say, the current wording could be bettered to indicate the more likely meaning.  Hogyn Lleol (talk) 12:32, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm just using Wikipedia terminology; undoing another user's edit is called reverting. Would you mind elaborating on the meaning you're trying to convey; I must admit I find the current sentence slightly difficult to follow, particularly what 'direct form' means. Cheers, A.D.Hope (talk) 18:58, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toponymy