Talk:Cruthin

message: An old infobox is being deleted by abusive editors pushing a revisionist point-of-view, using unilateral declarations of "nonsense" to enforce their edits & POV, etc. When I ran across this page years ago, it had the infobox. I was surprised by the information, so I began researching the topic and found many old histories. Recently I found references to the founder Ollamh Fodhla & his six successors being called "the seven Cruithnian kings that ruled over Ireland". I thought I would update the infobox, and my edit alerted new editors to begin vandalizing the page. 72.214.191.126 (talk) 22:59, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: On the contrary - an unhinged, POV-pushing, Original-Research peddling, user is acting in bad faith by continuing to re-insert unsourced, nonsensical material to the article, Cagwinn (talk) 00:38, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion of Infobox

message: There seems to be a connection between the ALPS and ALB.ANIA, with the *ALP, *ALB root associated with mountains.  Now, Celtic culture is thought to have arisen in the Alps (Haltstadtt culture), and to this day Britain is called Albion (cf. M. Gibson's war cry in Braveheart, "Alba gu brath!").  My point is, the CROAT people live in Albania.... and the Cruithne live in Albion... could there be a connection? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.235.44.73 (talk • contribs).
::No.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.152.97.195 (talk) 19:18, 2 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: None whatsoever.104.169.26.177 (talk) 18:24, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Croats

message: There are a number of problems with the content as stated.  In particular:
*It is far from certain that the Picts spoke a Celtic (or even Indo-European) language, as the article on the Picts states.
*It is apparently false to say, as the article does, that the custom of body-painting had died out among all other Celts at the time of Roman contact.  This custom was still practised among the British and Irish, as Caesar said in his Gallic Wars.
--Saforrest 20:18, August 26, 2005 (UTC)
I've revised the bit about the Cruithne being identified with Picts to make it clear that this derives from O'Rahilly's model, which is influential but not universally accepted. As for the body-painting, it's true that Caesar refers to the practice in Britain (although he doesn't mention Ireland) in the 1st century BC. However the word Pict first appears in Roman writings about the 3rd century, so by the time the Romans were calling them that the practice had died out elsewhere. --Nicknack009 21:55, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: To say that O'Rahilly's views are "not universally accepted" is today, I think, a huge understatement.  It's unfortunate that he seems to be the major reference for this article.  ☸ Moilleadóir ☎ 00:40, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Problems

message: The county was formerly known as Queen's County, but up till it's countification (?) in the 1550's the territory went by the anglicised name Leix (under the rule of the O'Moores, I think). Laois is hardly a revival of the name - the territory has always been known as such. Same applies to Breffni, the Owls, the Brenny, the Ards etc.--Shtove 17:00, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Laois 

message: Am I the only one who came here looking for 3753 Cruithne, a.k.a. "Earth's second moon"? If not, it might be worth linking to it, disambiguifying, putting in a reference at the top, or whatever it is that the more wiki-versed among us tend to do. Cheers! Audionaut (talk) 09:00, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 3753 Cruithne

message: The Pictish Chronicle has as the first King of the Picts as the eponymous "Cruidne filius Cinge, pater Pictorum habitantium in hac insula. C annis regnavit".  This is entirely cognate with the eponymous founder of Gaeldom, Goídel Glas. The seven sons of Cruidne son of Cinge, also give their names to the ancient divisions of Alba (taken from the article on the Picts): 
*Cait, situated in modern Caithness and Sutherland
*Ce, situated in modern Mar and Buchan
*Circinn, perhaps situated in modern Angus and the MearnsForsyth, "Lost Pictish Source", Watson, Celtic Place Names, pp. 108–109.
*Fib, the modern Fife, known to this day as 'the Kingdom of Fife'
*Fidach, location unknown
*Fotla, modern Atholl (Ath-Fotla)Bruford, "What happened to the Caledonians", Watson, Celtic Place Names, pp. 108–113.
*Fortriu, cognate with the Verturiones of the Romans; recently shown to be centered around MorayWoolf, "Dun Nechtain"; Yorke, Conversion, p. 47. Compare earlier works such as Foster, Picts, Gaels and Scots, p. 33.
There certainly should be more on this, in this article, than Ó Cróinín and Jackson's dismissal of the notion that the historic Cruthin were not in some way connected with the Picts. Brendandh (talk) 11:16, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: King List of the Picts

message: There seems to be disagreement over the use of county Derry or county LondonDerry.  Which is correct, and why?  Thanks Jim1138 (talk) 02:06, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:DERRY. The policy is to use Derry for the city and Londonderry for the county. --Nicknack009 (talk) 08:00, 15 November 2011 (UTC)

text: How is Derry correct for something, by your own admission, the British government created? Canterbury Tail talk 03:08, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Re the supposed "middle road" proposed by Brendandh - WP:DERRY is already a compromise, and one that's clear and works pretty well, so please don't undermine it. --Nicknack009 (talk) 10:15, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  county Londonderry v. Derry 

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