Talk:Political spectrum/Archive 1

message: Somebody thinks the opposite of what I did. Better say nothing than something exactly wrong, eh? Comments on this sentance? Sam [Spade] 20:49, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: wow, thats alot of POV based on premises I don't agree with. Sam [Spade] 21:21, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)

text: I always say that behind closed doors, they all agree on a few things. Raising taxes, reducing freedom, and laughing w their corporate friends all the way to the bank ;) Sam [Spade] 05:27, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whether the state should prioritize individual rights () or public rights () 

message: I removed the following sentence from the article:
:* Whether their opinion on human nature is broadly optimistic (left) or pessimistic (right).
This was changed by an anon to the exact oppostite, and since it can actually be convincingly argued both ways, I don't think it makes much sense as a criterion for distinguishing left and right. Feel free to disagree and reinsert :p -- Ferkelparade π 07:16, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Human nature

message: Someone recently added text claiming that one of the definitions of the left/right contrast is "Whether it is best to subsidise the weak (left) or strong (right)." There is no citation for this, and it sounds propagandistic. If no one can provide a citation in the next 48 hours, I intend to delete it. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:28, Jun 14, 2005 (UTC)
It probably deserves to be removed for being uncited - but how exactly is it "propagandistic"? Do you think that POV is somehow less truthful than the others presented? matturn 10:08, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  An uncited definition 

message: 1,790,000 Google hits for political+spectrum+theory; it is in fact a theory, not unlike evolution or creationism with its dissenters from primary premises & validity. Nobs01 21:57, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theory 

message: Wikipedia seems inconsistent in whether 'chart' and 'model' are to be capitalized or not. What would be more correct? Juan Ponderas
:Writing Nolan Chart suggests that these specific two words are the name or title of the chart. Writing Nolan chart suggests simply "that chart made by some guy named Nolan". Nonetheless, the capitalized usage is still common for works where it isn't the title -- for instance, the real title of the official document on the JFK assassination is Report of the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy, but everyone calls it The Warren Report. --FOo 02:02, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nolan chart or Nolan Chart? 

message: * Preference for a larger and more interventionist government (right/left) versus a smaller government (left/right).
Given lack of citation, and the fact that people keep changing which side of this they consider to be "left" or "right", I am removing this from the article as probably useless. Citations (either way around) welcome, but till then I think we are better off without it. -- Jmabel | Talk 05:05, August 9, 2005 (UTC)
All of the items on the list are subject to double interpretation, if you wanted consistency they would all have to go. Economic interventionism is usually a left-wing theme, enforcement of traditional moral and cultural values by the state is a classic right-wing theme.Ruzmanci 21:21, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interpretations of the left-right axis 

message: I cut the following recent addition. It's uncited, and I don't believe it is accurate. Imaginably I could be wrong, but I won't believe it without citation. Yes, there is the so-called red-brown coalition politics in which the communists have sometimes allied with the right, but that doesn't make conservatives and fascists the left.
:Oddly enough, in the former Soviet Union and nowadays Russia, the left-right classification is reversed when compared to Western European classification. Thus, communism and socialism would fall on the "right" of the political spectrum, while conservatism, fascism, etc. would be on the "left".
Jmabel | Talk 03:46, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncited, unlikely, cut 

message: The recently added Stephane Dubois chart doesn't impress me at all. Is there any indication that anyone other than Stephane Dubois has ever before cited or commented favorably on this thing? -- Jmabel | Talk 01:33, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stephane Dubois, and "Suggested Reading" section