Talk:Fairuz

message: Wasn't she a maronite, and not orthodox? Shajar 08:58, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If she was a maronite she wouldn't have sung so much about Arab unity and reclaiming Palestine.Yuber(talk) 01:18, 23 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Where was she born? "Jabal Al Arz" or Beirut? she comes from palestine
SHE WAS DEFINITELY BORN IN "JABAL AL ARZ", not beirut. For in her documentary (1998), they clearly say that her family moved from Jabal Al Arz to establish their home in Beirut (Zqaq el Blat / Basta) area.
But Jabal el Arz may refer to Jabal Lebnen (Mount Lebanon Governorate). I didn't find a village/city named JABAL AL ARZ on the map. the place of birth could be Dibbiyeh: a village in the Mount Lebanon Governorate. It is the village of her mother and where fairuz spend the summer holidays with her grandma. so this information should be verified.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.88.48.253 (talk) 16:42, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth Place 

message: Fairuz is originally Syriac Orthodox but she had to change her sect to Greek Orthodox so she can marry Assi Rahbani
A Historical Note
Dear fellow fans, please do not forget to mention (or remember) those who took Fairuz and Al Rahbani's by the hand and into stardom. I mean here especially Sabri Elsharif. An artist, director, who reportedly used up all his influence in the media business to help Fairuz and the Arab voice cause. I myself still know little about him except for what I found in a single google search. I know that he initially hired her and directed most of her musicals and her 2 famous records on Palestine. He deserves a link by himself.  08:18, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If you are sure about that than it would be a good thing to add that info. You can provide a source or a reference here in this talk page to justify it. Cheers -- Svest 18:03, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Try this link.  It will also lead you to other good links.Good luck. HAE  05:23, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fairuz is originally Syriac Orthodox 

message: I appreciate the newly inserted edits by users 216.80.117.214 and 147.9.45.157. I hope those edits would set an example to users 82.198.29.11, Jabe88 and 81.220.32.223  who somehow pretended that we are censoring info here. Svest 00:41, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: New christmas edits

message: This article is a really problematic one.
on the first hand, the earlier version is too short, very few informations were available.
on the other hand, the current version is too detailed, BUT still better than the other version.
what I suggest is to discuss what information to leave, and what information should be removed.
To people who say, this is far too detailed, i agree to a certain degree (some info could be removed), but you just can't put the tiny version back. SOME PEOPLE ARE SEARCHING FOR THE DETAILS (her life, works, documentaries...); for the devil is in the details. In the small version, there's nothing about her works... Why is it called an encyclopedia then ? The encyclopedia must have the full information about everything.
Please discuss the article here. and to all of you, don't put any version of the article without discussing and asking for the conscent of the other fans.
:let's remove the chronology, or put it in a separate article
::I agree, and the information available in the chronology, like awards given to her, should figure in an "awards" section...
There should be a section focusing on her career, distinct from her biography Unixer 12:21, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think a discography section is necessary. and also remove that kind of info from the biography section.Unixer 22:32, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Either extremely detailed, or extremely shortened... 

message: She may have been born Orthodox, or maybe she converted to Orthodox, but Fairouz definetly has a major connection to the Maronite Faith. She sings all of our hymns. In fact, in the LBC (Lebanese Brodcasting Corporation) they show her atending and singing at Good Friday, Easter, and Christmas Masses. 
Another thing, She wouldn't sing "Ya Oumallah" if she were any type of Orthodox, as most Orthodox people I know become very upset with the Maronite obsession with Mary.
The current facts show that Fairouz is a Maronite now, I'm not sure what she was before.
Just because her, the Rahbani's or others felt for Arab unity does not dismiss her as a Maronite. Not all Maronite's are sepratists, pro-Israel, or anti-Arab. Politics and religion are not so easily allignable, and it is that kind of stereotyping that caused the war in Lebanon in the first place.
: NOT AT ALL. Fayrouz was born syriac orthodox, got married to Assi Rahbani, and converted to greek orthodoxy. She has produced many maronite hymns, that's correct. That was because the Rahbanis wanted to use Fayrouz's voice. But when she sings in the great firday, she always sings it in an orthodox church, and chants the orthodox liturgy hymns. I GO AND WATCH HER EVERY YEAR CHANTING. She's definitely orthodox. why don't you check her chronology and see where and what she has sang, and what the RUSSIAN ORTHODOX CHURCH has done with her new orthodox hymns (they added them to their repertoire, like al aodiya al oula and al aoudiya al tasi'a and la tanouhi) Fairuz Chronology. So don't modify the article please.
And please, before coming here and start a polemic issue, be sure of the information you're giving.
***Fayruz sang about MECCA people!!! Does that make her Muslim? NO!
HER FATHER CAME FROM MARDIN, TURKEY... he was a syriac orthodox
There is no reliable source that says her father is Turkish. Her father was Lebanese. Lebanese bebe (talk) 11:19, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: He wasn't turkish but Syriac Orthodox from a city that was then part of the Ottoman empire (just like Lebanon by the way).Ravi84m (talk) 18:38, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  She was a maronite, where are you citing this Orthodox History? 

message: Forgive me.  I understand this was mentioned about two or three times before.  I was just wondering if you can provide sources (books, articles, or websites) that say she was Syrian Orthodox and converted Greek Orthodox.  A website search I did found that Wikipedia was the only one that says such information, while there are two other websites that say she "came from a Marionite family," such as this one:
http://www.lebanon.com/where/entertainment/fairuz.htm
I'm not questioning your information.  I was just hoping you could cite where you get this information from.
Christ is risen!
God bless you.
Mina
** Dear Mina, if you watched the lebanese channels lately, you could see that fayrouz chanted on the orthodox great friday (Friday the 21st of april not on maronite good friday the 14th of april). Every year she chants in orthodox churches, and her life documentary says so. This website has wrong info. Fayrouz's father was syriac originally form Mardine (Turkey). These people ran away from the turkish prosecution during World War I.
http://7iwarforum.org/forum/showthread.php?t=777
Please read this article of Samir Atallah (journalist in Annahar newspaper and Friend of Fairuz and the Rahabanis) about Fairuz's 70 birthday. HOPE YOU READ ARABIC !
=== مرحبا, Grüeß Got, Hello and so on ... ===
I've just been looking for as many as possible translations of "Stille Nacht/Silent Night" as possible; and by this opportunity I discovered Fairuz. And I add: I am a Bavarian Roman Catholic, and nothing else. But just because that's how it is after all, I completely hate all those discussions about her faith. By the way: She does sing "Silent Night"!! Hallelujah! ... --Hellsepp (talk) 00:50, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources of her Orthodoxy? 

message: I've just been looking for as many as possible translations of "Stille Nacht/Silent Night" as possible; and by this opportunity I discovered Fairuz. And I add: I am a Bavarian Roman Catholic, and nothing else. But just because that's how it is after all, I completely hate all those discussions about her faith. By the way: She does sing "Silent Night"!! Hallelujah! ... --Hellsepp (talk) 00:50, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  مرحبا, Grüeß Got, Hello and so on ... 

message: We love you please stop the drama.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miia (talk • contribs) 19:30, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lebanon and sects and Fairuz 

message: Fairuz doesn't have any palestinian origins !!!!!
anyone who adds this edit would be vandalising this article... her father is Lebanese from TURKISH origins, and her mother is pure lebanese... check Atallah's article above
Her father wasnt turkish he was a SYRIAC from a town that became a PART OF TURKEY.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Miss-simworld (talk • contribs) 22:04, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fairuz does NOT have palestinian origins 

message: During the Lebanese War (1975-1990), Fairuz never left Lebanon but did not hold any concerts there because it pained her greatly to see the Lebanese suffering and dying at the hands of foreigners and their own. She would not sing for them, them who were killing each other and destroying Lebanon. However, during that time period, Fairuz held several very successful record-breaking concerts and tours in numerous countries around the world. Fairuz's ability to tour internationally without ever leaving Lebanon was considered quite remarkable by many of her contemporaries.
Unless I'm missing something, this shouldn't be considered remarkable---it should be considered impossible. Any idea what's trying to be said here? Tesseran 08:46, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction 

message: I've added templates indicating that the article as it stands lack sources and falls short of WP's neutral POV ideal.  That there are no sources beyond the subject's homepage can, given the magnitude of her international career, doubtless be fixed.  The POV issues are deeply woven into the text ("...angelic voice has enchanted millions...", "...her voice simply transcends the human hearing range...", indications of "historic" and "record breaking" performances without further citation, etc.), but much good work has gone into the text and it mostly needs a ruthless editor. Robertissimo 14:35, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources and POV 

message: *Fairuz has sold 80 million records around the world,
*Another huge success was the massive concert at the Las Vegas MGM Grand Arena (1999) which broke box-office sales records
Please don't restore this information without a citation.--BirgitteSB 18:55, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  contested statement removed 

message: Shes lebanese just put her as that also her father was ASSYRIAN/SYRIAC and her mother a maronite 
so if anything shes assyrian not arab. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.108.43 (talk) 21:47, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  shes not arab 

message: we all love fairuz, but when we add phrases such as a "a living legend" it just make fairuz look bad.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amman12 (talk • contribs) 08:32, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  PLEASE NO ONE ADDS HIS PERSONAL OPINION

message: Hey, apart from her roots, beliefs and origins (the usual Arab conflict) can someone please contribute with a piece of information on the voice range that is of Fairouz and the scales of music she adhered to during her career as well as the lyrical structures she was famous of singing? I think it will enrich the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Miia (talk • contribs) 20:37, 12 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voice range and musical scale 

message: Shouldn't she have a singer template??  — Preceding unsigned comment added by يزن أحمد (talk • contribs) 15:38, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion 

message: We need a propoer discography section that lists all of Fairuz' albums. The current section is inadequate.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.49.157.70 (talk) 03:30, 18 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need proper discography 

message: The follwwing section was misplaced at the end of the article and seems a bit like POV/personal commentary at first glance. But maybe it can be partially be reused and properly integrated into the article, hence I paste it below.--Kmhkmh (talk) 01:51, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  temporarily removed

message: I added that song as it is considered as one of her most emblematic songs. I am not sure if the link to the translation is really  wiki-compatible, but it may be usefull to document it anyhow and it is only a suggested translation, not really a fact. Any suggestion welcome. 2A02:A03F:16FD:B100:5841:686A:B0BC:BAA9 (talk) 18:47, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  emblematic song "aatini al nay.." 

message: According to her own site she was born in 1933
https://web.archive.org/web/20000303025909/http://www.fairouz.com:80/fairouz/lists/timeline.html
1933 Nouhad Haddad is born.
And it stays there for at least 10 years.
https://web.archive.org/web/20100729205907/http://www.fairouz.com:80/fairouz/lists/timeline.html
This might need a more serious check around and a correction of most wiki pages. 2A02:A03F:16FB:6C00:A442:AB36:6D29:31A7 (talk) 07:58, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthdate 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In Discography, change link from Mohamed Abdelwahab(footballer) to Mohammed Abdel Wahab(composer) also the link to Mohamed Mohsen is wrong 102.156.170.108 (talk) 07:34, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Done - removed the incorrect links.  GoingBatty (talk) 15:11, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 April 2020 

message: Change 'Sweden' to 'Switzerland' at the end of the initial paragraph. Lys Assia was Swiss, not Swedish. 94.19.111.208 (talk) 15:52, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The source says Sweden. Melmann 22:29, 1 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 September 2020 

message: change ((Francois Mitterrand)) to ((François Mitterrand)) 2601:541:4500:1760:80F7:F6C8:1900:AA14 (talk) 20:52, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Danski454 (talk) 21:06, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Francois Mitterrand 

message: Please Edit the birth date to 20 November 1934 (Age 87)
As Fayrouz was born on 20th not 21st of November 1934 not 1935 2001:8F8:1A65:D40C:6D88:4FA6:F913:78E6 (talk) 18:18, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:41, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 November 2021 

message: under Personal Life: "one of the Rahnani brothers" should be spelled "Rahbani". 178.82.160.75 (talk) 21:06, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Cannolis (talk) 21:14, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2022