Talk:Germany–Soviet Union relations, 1918–1941

message: Many countries traded with Germany and invested to Germany before 1933, and after 1933. For example, the USA were one of the largest trading partners and investors of Germany till 1941. 
Wall Street Syndicate Manager | Participation in German industrial issues in U.S. capital market | Profits on German loans | Percent of total  
*Dillon, Read & Co.  $241,325,000 $2.7 million 29.2 
*Harris, Forbes & Co. 186,500,000 1.4 million 22.6 
*National City Co. 173,000,000 5.0 million 20.9 
*Speyer & Co.  59,500,000 0.6 million 7.2 
*Lee, Higginson & Co. 53,000,000 n.a 6.4 
*Guaranty Co. of N.Y. 41,575,000 0.2 million  5.0 
*Kuhn, Loeb & Co. 37,500,000  0.2 million 4.5 
*Equitable Trust Co. 34,000,000  0.3 million 4.1 
 
*TOTAL $826,400,000 $10.4 million 99.9
 
Many countries promoted the increase of military potential of Germany. The volume of German-Soviet trade was simply insignificant in 1933-1939 in comparison with the German-American trade. The Versailles restrictions of German armament have been  cancelled by Britain de facto in 1934...
Ben-Velvel 02:35, 8 May 2006 
:I don't see how the U.S. participation in German financial and industrial markets affects the point of view of the material discussed regarding Soviet support of the German avoidance of the strictures of the Versailles Treaty.  Perhaps you could explain. tswold 11:40, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Soviet-German, American-German, Anglo-German cooperation etc

message: In the article, we find the assertion: "Three-eighths of the oil used by Germany in 1940 came from the Soviet Union including high-octane spirit for the Luftwaffe to fight the Battle of Britain."
Although this section of the article (unlike several others) is footnoted, no source is cited for this sentence. I have not been able to find any source elsewhere. Can someone provide a reference to the source for this information" 
Stephen.r 20:07, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oil 

message: Colchicum, did you see this article in Russian WP? It includes a lot of interesting information that was not included here.Biophys 22:11, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Lipetsk is already here, and I think that the main virtue of Wikipedia is referencing rather than detailed description (which is prone to vandalism and propaganda and is very time-consuming). As to the economic relations with Nazi Germany, well, I have just started :) Colchicum 22:20, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Russian version

message: The phrase "which led to their illegal intervention on the monarchist side in the Russian Civil War." seems non-neutral POV, although I claim no scholarship in Russian history.  What is the basis for declaring that foreign assistance in a civil war is "illegal" - in this instance or in general?  Was French aid to George Washington "illegal" - or does it only become illegal if the country supported the side that loses?  Removing "illegal" or perhaps replacing it with "failed ", "unsuccessful" or "futile" would be more neutral POV.StreamingRadioGuide 08:43, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have deleted this claim. It is not only POV (well, personally I think that such wording is a nonsense, because there is (fortunately) no international authority to enforce international law), but also irrelevant to the issue. Colchicum 14:18, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Legalisms of civil war

message: Several sources make notion that Katyn was coordinated with Gestapo. It should be briefly included in the article.
--Molobo (talk) 15:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems to me those are more allegations. A lot can be alleged. Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof.—PētersV (talk) 15:53, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Since a question regarding those allegations was presented by Polish Foreign Ministry and is expressed in scholary works it is notable. Of course we will not present it as proven but as theory, difficult to establish due to classification of over 116 documents from 183 about the case by the Russian government.--Molobo (talk) 16:05, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  There are lots of documents going back to the 30's for which the the Soviet now Russian (or other former SSR) secrecy term  is just now expiring. We're speculating that because the documents have not been released they contain worst news than the Soviets just being responsible. When their term expires, we'll know. I just can't shake the (editorial) feeling that since the Poles have a very big axe to grind with both sides, how better to do it than to speculate about Nazi-Soviet collusion? It's quite possible too, but somewhere there has to be a discussion of hard evidence beyond the allegation. —PētersV (talk) 19:13, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Katyn 

message: Not so "parochial" that Hitler didn't get Stalin to agree to supply war material and transmit radio signals to support the Luftwaffe invasion of Poland, getting WWII off to a rousing start. Let's dispense with the judgemental opinions of Hitler's opinions. —PētersV (talk) 22:54, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's stop with the "parochial prejudice" edit. It will keep getting deleted as it is one author's value judgement on behavior, not an encyclopedic recounting of an action. If you want to contribute to an article on Hitler's personal belief system that would be an appropriate place, but not in this article. —PētersV (talk) 13:50, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Parochial" 

message: Please keep it "Soviet-German relations before 1941" as it was.Biophys (talk) 03:05, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree, see below move request. Lklundin (talk) 10:56, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

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message: The article doesn't mention the mission of Rudolph Hess in Scotland. Hitler's offers to Great Britain for peace and the information on next war against Soviet Union.--Deguef (talk) 16:53, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Ian Kershaw's Hitler (London : Penguin Books, 1998, 2000, 2008) , p. 615. "...Hitler's motive for contemplating a secret mission such as Hess attempt to carry out would be difficult to grasp." ... "Last thing Hitler wanted was any hold-up through diplomatic complications arising from the intercession by Hess a few weeks before the invasion [Barbarossa] was to be launched." Peltimikko (talk) 20:42, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Rudolph Hess

message: The section "World War II :  August tensions" states:
Ribbentrop wrote a letter promising Stalin that "in the opinion of the Fuhrer … it appears to be the historical mission of the Four Powers — the Soviet Union, Italy, Japan and Germany — to adopt a long range-policy and to direct the future development of their peoples into the right channels by delimitation of their interests in a worldwide scale."
The immediately following section, "World War II :  Soviet negotiations regarding joining the Axis", states:
After Germany entered a Tripartite Pact with Japan and Italy, in October 1940, Ribbentrop wrote to Stalin about "the historical mission of the Four Powers -- the Soviet Union, Italy, Japan and Germany -- to adopt a long range-policy and to direct the future development of their peoples into the right channels by delimitation of their interests in a worldwide scale."
Thus, the first passage implies that the letter dates to August 1940, whereas the second passage dates it to October 1940.  Which is correct?
Both passages cite the same source:  Philbin III, 1994, pages 49-50.
72.74.182.137 (talk) 13:24, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of Ribbentrop-Stalin letter (1940) ? 

message: Many people may not know this but the Soviet Union was a great friend of Nazi Germany. The Soviet Union actually sent aid and supply's for Hitler to invade and capture England. They did everything the could to keep Hitler as a friend. They even captured Poland together and divided it up.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.102.141.170 (talk) 11:27, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soviet Union friend of Nazi Germany before 22 June 1941. 

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message: Ukraine was known for being the “breadbasket” of Europe…not so much Russia. It’s due to Ukraine having very rich black soil and a climate that allows them to have multiple harvests. Shelly098 (talk) 07:04, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Third period