Talk:Faith of the Fallen

message: The problems of tone and content are in this article as the other individual SoT pages. Please see the Talk:Stone of Tears page for more info. NeoFreak 14:57, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tone and content

message: So I noticed that some of the information in the themes section had been deleted, so I replaced it because it seemed fairly worthwhile.  However, even though I think a themes section is a great addition to this novel, I'm not entirely sure we should keep it.  Despite however obvious (or subtle) any of the novel's themes may be, I think for us editors to make judgments about it would fall under the category of original research, which as we all know isn't allowed.
So basically, unless we can find some references for the section, even though some of the themes of the novel may be obvious, I think we might have to temporarily delete the section.  What does everyone else think? - Runch 19:21, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My point is that it could all be considered speculative opinion, even the obvious stuff about Richard and the Spirit statue.  Since the only reference we could cite is Faith of the Fallen itself, I think any observations made from the book are original research.  So personally I don't think we should include any of it.  I'm just waiting to see if anyone else has any good arguments either for or against. - Runch 14:59, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, implicit in what I said was that we need reliable sources, which this obviously isn't. - Runch 18:40, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Major Themes

message: Hi.  I was wondering if there shouldn't be some mention of Atlas Shrugged here also.  I feel like that Atlas deserves a mention in this article every bit as much as the fountainhead.  Richard would be John Galt, obviously.  He sees that there isn't a place for him, and so chooses to leave until the people can prove themselves to him, exactly as Galt went on strike.  Kahlan (Dagny) is in love with Richard, but she doesn't agree with his strike.  So she goes back to fight against all odds, until she ultimately realizes that Richard was right all along.  Also, I think Richard's character identifies more with Galt then Rourke.  After all, Richard made it very clear that he would never do to anyone what Howard did to Dominique, and though it wasn't in FotF, Richard's speech in confessor after unleashing orden was almost exactly like Galt's radio talk. Drahkin (talk) 03:36, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, unless you could find a reliable source for this, it would fall under the category of original research, which we can't include in any Wikipedia article. - Runch (talk) 15:42, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course, after looking at the article, we really already have quite a bit of original research here.  Of course, rather than add more, we should probably take out what's already there. - Runch (talk) 15:43, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

text: The Terry Goodkind article explicitly links this book with Ayn Rand, so it's strange that this article does not. Equinox ◑ 06:40, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Atlas Shrugged Reference

message: Unless someone has recommendations, im removing the plot tag. This has pretty much been trimmed to the bone, and despite its length, it is all critical plot, and glosses over significant portions of the book.Brinlong (talk) 21:38, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot