Talk:Corvin Castle

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how does the above link add information to the article, besides the two photos and the 20 lines of text duplicating the information in this article ? Criztu 17:38, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is much more information in that page than in the article itself. If you compare only the quantity of information, there are 433 words vs 84 words. If you compare the article itself, there is interesting information about the previous ownership of the castle, the phases of construction and renovations, usage of the castle in various periods, details of the architecture and inscriptions on the castle. If there is bias in the page, that does not void the value of the information. Someone (not necessarily me or you) could incorporate all that information in the article (not by copying it directly, because that would be a copyright violation) and in that process, remove the bias, using a neutral point of view. However, after this is done, the link should continue to be kept in the references section, because of the policy of Wikipedia of citing sources. Razvan Socol 07:06, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: i think the other external link is far more richer in information. 2 pictures and 20 lines and a big link to Szekler lands indicates to me that this particular link is rather an invitation to read about a diferent topic Criztu 14:10, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

text: You could save http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/ro/f/f8/Hun_corv2.jpg to your computer and upload it to http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Hun_corv2.jpg with the  template and http://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imagine:Hun_corv2.jpg as the source.  ⇒  JarlaxleArtemis 05:00, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: external link

message: The original first paragraph was:
*Corvin Castle was built by King Charles I of Hungary, after his visit in Temesvár (Timişoara), Kingdom of Hungary (now Romania), in 1307. The King decided to set up residence there. The building, probably built by Italian builders, was finished in 1315 and in 1316 the King was already established in the new castle, where he lived almost eight years. The last document signed by him in Temesvár (Timişoara) dated June 15, 1323. In 1409, the castle was given to John Hunyadi's father, Voyk, by Sigismund, king of Hungary, as severance.
but it was replace by Crista303 with:
*Corvin Castle (or Hunyadi Castle or Corvinesti Castle in Hunedoara, Romania) was laid out in 1446, when construction began at the orders of Iancu de Hunedoara (English John Hunyadi), who wanted to transform a former keep built by Charles I of Hungary in 1307,offered as severance to his father in 1409. At the time, Iancu was regent of the Kingdom of Hungary.
He stated that: "this version of the article is well documented and is more precise. The Romanian article is almost the same. Key change: the person who ordered the castle to e built is Iancu de Hunedoara (John Hunyadi). Before then, it was just a keep"
I fail to see why would it be "more precise" as all he did was to remove a lot of information (especially those which connect the castle to the Kingdom of Hungary) and used the POV name "Iancu de Hunedoara" instead of "John Hunyadi". It is uncertain whether John Hunyadi was more "Iancu de Hunedoara" or "János Hunyadi". Romanian sources prefer the first variant, while Hungarian ones use the second. However, *English* sources use the neural "John Hunyadi", so we should use it on Wikipedia, as well. I have restored the original first paragraph as it contained valuable information which was deleted. KœrteFa {ταλκ} 19:53, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, crista303, of your answer. I will take a look at the sources about the issue you have mentioned (Charles I's castle). I also ask you not to remove referenced statements without giving proper explanation. Unfortunately, I don't speak Romanian, but I would be glad if you could translate some sentences from the source you gave, which support your argument (I think that Google Translate does not work in Google Books). Cheers, KœrteFa {ταλκ} 
20:30, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information Removals and POV edits 

message: The third paragraph in the History section needs re-working, as it repeats some of the information from the preceding paragraph.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.52.96.14 (talk) 17:46, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  History