Talk:Monster group

message: Hi, regarding the change from "a number of" to "26", feel free to change, but make sure to explain the change in the edit summary, or here on this talk page. Usually we have so much vandalism from anonymous users, that we revert anything that looks fishy. Also, if you create a username, then it's easier to track your edits and engage in conversations on this.  Thanks! Fuzheado 04:42, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't do the original edit, and I don't know that much group theory, but the number 26 also appears in Classification of finite simple groups, so it seems okay to me. Jitse Niesen 11:27, 4 Feb 2004 (UTC)

text: Hi, that was me, that added the 26.  i thought it was more specific that "a number of".  i can certainly understand about safeguarding against vandals.  next time i will be more informative with my edits  -lethe — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.92.164.199 (talk) 09:28, 5 February 2004 (UTC)

text: What does "order" mean?  The article starts off with an undefined and unlinked word that no layperson is likely to understand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.225.34.183 (talk) 12:34, 1 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding the change from "a number of" to "26" 

message: What is the definition of "Monster group"? Without this, the uniqueness result is meaningless. Eric119 06:34, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Definition?

message: It has been pointed out that M11 is found within the O'Nan group. I do not know how to edit the diagram.
Proposal: Move the O'Nan group along with J1 to the left of the diagram, and add a line from O'N to M11. Move the diagram and Ru a bit to the right to fill the space between Ru and J3. Scott Tillinghast, Houston TX (talk) 01:47, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The diagram

message: From the section on existence and uniqueness:
The page on the Griess algebra mentions that M fixes a non-zero vector in the Griess algebra. So it seems that there exists a faithful 196883-dimensional representation almost by definition? Or was it not yet clear in 1980 that M fixes a non-zero vector in the Griess algebra? I'm a bit confused! Lenny Taelman (talk) 08:56, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Existence and uniqueness

message: I am translating this page into Simple English. Anyone who is proficient in Simple English should feel free to help out.
--800km3rk
: Sois un pen...dejo la palabra  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2806:1016:6:4D7:2C55:4013:C49:439D (talk) 18:10, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simple English 

message: Please explain terms a little more.  This page presumes that the reader already understands much of its content.  I did pursue some of the links of relevant terms, but found only more of the same.  (And no, I'm not a dropout.  I have taken several math courses, including a few graduate courses.)  Thank you very much!  69.247.14.176 (talk) 23:19, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi  69.247.14.176 - Good request.  Unfortunately, like many mathematical objects, it is difficult to explain what the monster is in just a few words.  I just added What is… The Monster? to the External links section.  See if that helps.  Also, if you can find a copy of Martin Gardner's Mathematical Games column for June 1980 (also mentioned in the External links), there is a fairly clear description of the monster there.--Foobarnix (talk) 16:52, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please give fuller explanations 

message: The monster's order can also be written 32! · 10! · 4!² · 2² · 7 · 13 · 41 · 47 · 59 · 71.  Is that worth mentioning? —Tamfang (talk) 18:28, 5 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  factors 

message: The sentence "The circled symbols denote groups not involved in larger sporadic groups." makes no sense since all symbols in the diagram are circled (unlike in Ronan's book). Benji104 (talk) 05:06, 3 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maximal subgroups 

message: The order of the group, “808,017,424,794,512,875,886,459,904,961,710,757,005,754,368,000,000,000”, is a line-breaking disaster. In a browser of suitable window size, it causes the writing point to jump down about 7cm of space. Ick!
Solution: add a unicode zero-width space after each of the internal commas (except the outermost few). This has been done, but as it is invisible, being flagged here. JDAWiseman (talk) 19:42, 28 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zero-width spaces in 808,017,424,794,512,875,886,459,904,961,710,757,005,754,368,000,000,000