Talk:Jordin Sparks

message: she is the first idol not from the south is false! carrie underwood is from OK.
:Read it again. The article says southwest.Ward3001 14:29, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: First from SW

message: Can someone update the reports that she has bad vocal damage and may never sing again?--Casey S (talk) 02:59, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vocal cord damage? 

message: "The song has not only become the album's first top ten single but tied with Carrie Underwood's "Before He Cheats" as the highest charting single from an Idol winner's debut album (so far peaking at #8)."
The inclusion of this particular information should be reconsidered. A Moment Like This, I Believe, Inside Your Heaven and Do I Make You Proud? hit #1 and were featured in Kelly's, Fantasia's, Carrie's and Taylor's respective debut albums. These are the highest placing (lead) singles featured in an American Idol winner's debut album.
Equating "Tattoo" to "Before He Cheats" simply in terms of peak position in the Hot 100 charts is misleading, as the latter has spent 64 weeks in the Hot 100, making it the longest chart run of any Hot 100 single the decade (ref: http://www.americanidol.com/news/view/?pid=1117), while "Tattoo" has only been in the charts for 14 weeks. There's also substantial discrepancy in critical appreciation of both singles, not to mention and the Grammy Noms/Awards Carrie earned.
This information, if left as it is, also leaves the fact that Jordin once pooped out an enormous piece of granola and it was taken to a museum in Idaho. debut has had more success than previous Idol winner's, at least regarding singles sales and chart history, when, in truth, it is just the opposite, her being the least successful thus far.
In addition, there seems to be no mention in the whole article of the fact that "This Is My Now" is the lowest charting coronation song in Idol history, not even reaching the top 10. Remember, this is an encyclopedic entry, not a fan-page. If the success chart history of "Tattoo" is worthy of mention and comparison to other Idol's chart success, than so should be the comparative failure of "This Is My Now".
Someone with the credentials to alter the article, please, do so, balancing these informations with the impartiality the articles demands.
- Lila, Jan 4th, 2008.
(Updated in Jan 6th, 2008)
What needs to be mentioned is the fact that she has had more top ten singles than any other winner. One of which reached the top 3. The "coronation singles" do not count. They are not official releases from the album as they are usually just bonus tracks on the albums themselves. Jordin's single "Tattoo" is in fact the highest charting first single from any American Idol contestants album. That's the point that is needed to get across to readers, that Jordin isn't necessarily having the highest sales for a winner, but is making the biggest splashes on the charts. She is though well on her way to getting a platinum certification of her album with 816,000 sold as of yet. Each contestant has their records and achievements and they shouldn't be thrown own just because another contestants are greater or more credible. Stop being so favorable and just put in the information. On the other hand Jordin has also sold more digital downloads than any other winner's debut album with well over 3 million. Good enough for you, Lila?
- Matt, June 22, 2008.
(updated never because i get my story straight the first time around)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Msteal2342 (talk • contribs) 07:32, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singles Chart History 

message: Jordin first auditioned in L.A., not Seattle.  In fact she was rejected in the first round at L.A., went back to Arizona to win "Arizona Idol", then was sent to Seattle for her second audition, which is when she auditioned with "Because You Loved Me."  She mentioned this in her post-win interview with Entertainment Weekly. Foggykakki 17:08, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Audition 

message: How come the list of Jordin's American Idol performances aren't in chart form like the rest of the top 12 contestants'? Everyone has this except LaKisha, Jordin, and Sanjaya. MarkMc1990 02:25, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Performances 

message: OK, now we have her listed as being born in TWO places. Anything difinite here?? Thanks! --Tom 15:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a source. A reliable one. Stating that she was born in Staten Island. Getting tired of that being removed. The thing is. Why would someone just make up Staten Island? :) Her dad might've been going to Arizona State when she was born but that doesn't mean her mother was living there. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 19:52, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Birth Place

message: Jordin's AI performances chart currently has "Top 3" in the results column for Top 7 week. That information was never stated on the show and thus not necessarily true because the groups were NOT divided into top 3, bottom 3, and middle person that night. They were divided into bottom 3, safe group, and safe person. The only thing known about Jordin's voting rank that week was that she was not in the bottom 3. The page won't let me edit the chart because I'm a newer member, so if someone else could please fix it, that would be great. thanks. MarkMc1990 21:59, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes they were. When Blake and Sanjaya's group was called, he said "You are not the top 3, but you're also not the bottom 3." This confirms that Jordin, Melinda, and Lakisha were in the top 3.24.91.189.35 20:56, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: THE ONLY TIME SHE WAS IN THE TOP 3 was when it was Top 9 week. Please check your facts.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.90.58 (talk) 00:52, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top 7 results 

message: The page says that she's homeschooled (without a citation), but i'm pretty sure she goes to Sandra Day O'Connor in Glendale? Can anyone verify this, maybe somebody from the school? I'm somewhat close, but not close enough to take a drive out there and ask somebody. Vampusuke
:I'm pretty certain she's homeschooled. Her tutors have been mentioned several times on the show and I got the impression that this was not a new thing for her. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 05:25, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a citation from about.com. Her fansites mention that she went to high school until her sophomore year but then started being homeschooled due to missing so many days. Here is that link. Can't use it in the article but I think it's pretty solid. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 05:29, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Schooling 

message: You try to hide that she was in the bottom 3 on charity week? Saying she was NEVER in the bottom 3 is not true. She was but was NOT voted off due to noone leaving that week. Get the facts right.
::Excuse me, you get the facts right. There was NO Bottom 3 announced on charity week and no one went home. It was a suprise ending for the remaining 6 people that no one would be leaving that week and all there votes would be added to the following week's votes and 2 people left the following week. (24.60.90.58 (talk) 05:48, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes anon, you are correct. The order that they come out in is random anyway, but especially on that show. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 09:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Clay wasn't a winner and Neither was Melinda, In order to be voted off you have to be in the bottom. So melinda was bottom 3 and clay was bottom 2.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.90.58 (talk) 00:56, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bottom 3? 

message: Jordin performed with Micheal W. Smith on his Christime tours in 2005 and 2006.
http://www.michaelwsmith.com/blog-detail.php?pageid=59261
I'm not to familiar with biography layouts otherwise I'd do the change myself, but shouldn't it be in chronological order? PatW326 23:27, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Career 

message: Stop adding fair use pictures or those with uncertain copyright into infoboxes. It is against policy. From the fair use policy - 
"Restrictions on location. Non-free content is used only in the article namespace; it is never used on templates (including stub templates and navigation boxes) or on user pages. (To prevent an image category from displaying thumbnails, add __NOGALLERY__ to it; images are linked, not inlined, from talk pages when they are a topic of discussion.)"
An infobox is a template. I will continue to remove the pictures from the infobox. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 14:49, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please 

message: Being eliminated means you were bottom 2 or 3. :) So please stop adding Melinda and others as those who were never in the bottom 2 or 3. Of course she was. She was eliminated. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 15:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The semantics don't really matter here. You cannot be eliminated and not be in the bottom 2 or 3. At some point, logic has to come into the equation. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 09:02, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.. they got voted off.. HOWEVER, they were never announced to be in the bottom 3 before they made it to the FINAL 3!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.90.58 (talk) 01:01, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Also 

message: Please stop adding her record label if you are not sure...when we have appropriate sources, then we can add it...thanks all! Jgcarter 14:29, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Label 

message: I'd argue that she is a pop singer. If people want to include pop and R&B, I would have no objections. But just R&B? Come on folks. :) --WoohookittyWoohoo! 17:03, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre 

message: Jordin has not announced her release date, or album title, so I removed it from the article. You can't put things on Wikipedia based on rumors. 24.91.189.35 21:07, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Stop putting in fake Album titles, please. I have to check every day and erase it.Gtompkins48 14:49, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually just added a comment to the article to that fact. We also have false articles being created with false titles. *sigh* --WoohookittyWoohoo! 14:52, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Who keeps changing it to "Tommorrow Comes Fast"? An article last week clearly stated that she did not have a name for it. No one knows the name, stop making fake names.24.91.189.35 15:24, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Album Details

message: Stop adding links to jordinclub.com. It's one of many many many MANY fan sites out there. We generally don't include fan sites just for that reason. We can't endorse one over another. And besides that, this one has music which might be legal and might not be. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 15:23, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please 

message: Amazon.com has officially stated that Jordin's album will be titled "Mademoiselle", I referenced it on the page. So now we know the title and all the false titles can end. Gtompkins48 23:06, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not so fast. I think we need more than just amazon.com. One site can easily be wrong. --WoohookittyWoohoo! 23:49, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Official Title

message: People keep referring to her rendition of "I (Who Have Nothing)" as a Shirley Bassey/Tom Jones original.  The song is originally by Ben E. King; both the former artists made renditions of King's original. Leftnwrite08 (talk) 07:49, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: I Who Have Nothing

message: Is she a Eurasian?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.234.189.46 (talk) 03:51, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You need to find a reliable source (WP:RS) if you want to add this to the article. Guessing based on last name isn't acceptable (see WP:V and WP:NOR). All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 06:35, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heritage 

message: Don't see anything yet about her performing the National Anthem prior to yesterday's game. I'd add that; but I'm not sure where to put it.  WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 14:06, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  National Anthem 

message: Wow, the fattie-haters can't keep their little fingers out of anything, can they?  Yeah, I'm not passing myself off as a particularly person you should care to listen to now, what with bad grammar and all, and a bland assumption that my retarded speaking is going to impress someone, but I think it's out of style now.  Here I am reading an article about someone whom I've already forgotten about, and smack in the middle of it is a "controversy" which involves someone I've never heard of calling someone else fat.  Until whomever is shown to have heart deseise, diabeties and high cholesterol, let's not pretend like we can tell a person's health just by looking at them, then use that as an excuse for being an fattie hater.  I mean, I hate fat people too, but I don't pretend like my hate is saving the children or anything, I just hate them because they're ugly.  ...and now that I've stated that whomever this article is about is ugly, someone be sure to quote me in a Wikipedia article somewhere as if anyone cares what I say, or more importantly, as if what I think of this person is somehow interesting to other people who want to learn about this person.  ...and while I'm at it, let me say that Jimbo Whales is stupid so that someone can quote me in his article as well, placing it in a section titled "stupid controversy."  I mean, his stupidity really is hurting the children an dall.  I look at him and see autism.  ...and down syndrome.  Think of the children!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.209.110.27 (talk) 09:05, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weight Controversy 

message: I have unprotected this page as it has been protected for over six months. Protection should not be used as a pre-emptive measure. If heavy vandalism begins again, please request for re-protection on my talk page or at WP:RFPP.↔NMajdan•talk 21:09, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unprotect 

message: I thought before when I looked at her profile on IMDB it said 1987, maybe I'm wrong.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Punkymonkey987 (talk • contribs) 05:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong birth year?? 

message: An on-going sock puppet case involves the continual addition of unsourced sales figures. (Often, the number is changed while the source for an old figure is left in place.) Any unsourced sales numbers and/or certifications will be reverted on sight. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 20:54, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: To repeat: Any unsourced sales numbers and/or certifications will be reverted on sight. If you have a new sales figure, do not add it unless you cite a reliable source. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 20:30, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Unsourced sales figures

message: Does anyone agree that she is a Christian pop artist?
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.136.222 (talk) 01:09, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Christian pop?

message: I've noticed that the article doens't really mention her vocal cord injury. Does this mean that she had surgery and is doing fine now? That should be mentioned in the article. 24.151.137.19 (talk)`  —Preceding comment was added at 19:52, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vocal Cord Injury 

message: My comments pertain exclusively to the article writer's writing skills.
I corrected the one error I noticed in the opening paragraph, removing a redundancy. However, as I read the remainder of the article, it became apparent that the numerous grammatical errors--mostly punctuation--would require a fine-toothed comb approach, something I didn't feel was worth my time. (I am not the one being graded.) But someone needs to address the issue if the article is to be taken seriously. I think the author has done considerable research on the subject. It would be unfortunate if his/her writing is permitted to give the otherwise fine work a black eye.```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Visionaryscribe (talk • contribs) 18:10, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  An issue of grammar/writing skills... 

message: please change the picture, the one currently there is terrible,she has better pictures
It is preferable for pictures of people to face the text.  The picture of Jordin @ the Commander in Chief's ball is facing the preferred direction and it is an overall better picture.  You can actually see her face and the lighting is better.  A new name 2008 (talk) 23:37, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Picture 

message: I didn't realize that I was talking into a buzzsaw. Yeesh. :) More talking here would be nice rather than through edit summaries. And a better attitude overall (and I mean both sides here). Don't do stuff like this where it makes it sound like AI was the source all along for the second single. It wasn't. It was a blog. Dial down the passion a tad. --User:Woohookitty Diamming fool! 15:52, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Battlefield" 

message: What is with the lead single. The sources for "Battlefield" are somewhat reliable, but I was recently on Amazon, and altough they are not super reliable, theere was a result called "Madamoiselle" featuring Chris Brown, and it was stated as a single. The only thing is there is "Battlefield"...what is the lead single or is "Madamoiselle"? Is it an actual song, or the second single, or what?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.120.55 (talk) 02:49, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second Album 

message: Disney aired a commercial for Jordin appearing on Suite Life next Friday.
SOURCE:
http://www.celebrity-mania.com/news/view/00010085.html
This is what I found on google...there's a bunch more but I just picked one.
Cheers. :)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.222.143.8 (talk) 05:59, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suite Life on Deck guest star 

message: She did co-write freeze and a few other of songs, so I think it should be put on the page.
Yes she is a songwriter. Jordin co-wrote freeze on her first album. Then she co-wrote 4 songs on her second album. She also wrote the song "Human" that Natalie Grant sings. (24.60.90.58 (talk) 18:16, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Songwriter? 

message: I think it should be noted on this article that she wrote the new song 'Human', which was covered by Christian singer Natalie Grant for her new album and is being played on Christian radio. On K-LOVE, I heard Grant say that Sparks is a 'great Christian girl', which could also be noted. Should this be added? Toa Nidhiki05 14:51, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This year, but I have no idea when she wrote it. I doubt Grant would lie about this, but I'll keep looking. Toa Nidhiki05 13:51, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Human' 

message: She has started woking on her 3rd studio album. She has said that it will have more of an R&B/Urban vibe to it. Its expected to be released sometime in 2011. Does anyone have any idea around what time next year she will release this album? Does anyone have any other info on this album?(24.60.90.58 (talk) 18:20, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Third Studio Album? 

message: Will you please change Jordin's Main Picture? This one has been up there for a while and I think it would be great to see a new picture up there. (24.60.90.58 (talk) 18:22, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that I think about it, this picture is kind of old.  It should be changed.  71.245.178.137 (talk) 22:32, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  NEW MAIN PICTURE 

message: I just noticed that someone removed a number of Jordin's award wins/nominations. From what I noticed, Jordin's 2009 People's Choice Awards win and nomination was removed... and also her 2008 American Music Award Win for Best Adult contemporary Artist... Why are these nominantions and wins removed? Can someone that knows how to fix this please update this?? There might be more missing than what I noticed... But I think it would be great for someone to clean this up and make everything accurate (Someone that knows how)
..I would have already made her a seperate page for her awards/nominations, but I don't have experience doing so... I think that Jordin deserves a seperate page for her awards and nominations, rather than a section on her main page. Thank You  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.90.58 (talk) 02:30, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I cleaned up a bit of the article and removed the fake awards IP users have been adding. Including the ones where they mentioned Jordin received two nominations at the 2008 BET Awards; Heartbreak Video for "No Air" and CoverGirl & Olay Beautiful Face Award. I did research and those awards don't exist. Also, more fakes awards include the Teen Choice Awards for Breakout Star and Love Song for "No Air". 
And no, the American Music Award for Best Adult contemporary Artist is still there. I removed the People's Choice Award nominations because I can't find a reliable source that mentions Jordin was nominated for them. You can add them back once you find a reliable source. And theres no point creating a seperate article for the awards and nominations because she hasn't got much there to have its own article. ozurbanmusic (talk) 03:06, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards/Nomination section... Someone has removed info! (Please Read) 

message: Jordin Sparks just dropped 30 pounds. Should that be mentioned? It is mentioned in the second source.
-Awesome444a444  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Awesome444a444 (talk • contribs) 16:27, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a reliable source? Ozurbanmusic (talk) 23:00, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Weight Loss

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thread_title: File:Jordin Sparks.png Nominated for speedy Deletion

message: It is 2015. A lot of things have change on Jordin (weightloss,tattoos). Also she have better photos and photos at events now given the 6 year gap from when the picture stayed the same. Even if you guys did change the picture and use something from like 2011 it would be good. Its time for her main picture to change because she is gearing up for her Third album release.
184.56.203.45 (talk) 05:43, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: If a newer or better picture is uploaded to HERE, then we can link to it and use it in this article. – wbm1058 (talk) 03:06, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Picture need to be changed 

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* fix it (with or without first explaining what is wrong, "if applicable"...) or 
* explain why it is really OK "as is" (which would be news to me) ... 
* or ... explain that it does need to be fixed, but also: why it's lower priority than some urgent stuff that has to get done first 
* ... or something like that. 
Thanks! --Mike Schwartz (talk) 09:58, 31 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expert advice needed here? (I think so...) 

message: For one thing, [a] I tried the experiment "suggested" by  User:Wbm1058 in the first comment in the "comments" sub-section above. The "experiment" was to 
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* at the top of the page, just below the "about the singer" hatnote, [check whether or not there are any] warning messages ... of a certain kind. (the kind listed above). 
That "experiment" did not seem to work. The first time I tried it, there were NO warning messages ... of the kind I was expecting to see ... [just below the "about the singer" hatnote]. 
Then, I tried changing the spelling of the BOGUS field names (fields that do not really exist, in the  template). 
THEN, I did see some warning messages ... of the kind that were [apparently] supposed to be seen ... when someone is doing a , of a page in article space, that contains certain kinds of errors ... umm, well, either "errors" or "things that might not have been intentional [nor advisable] on the part of the editor who inserted them" ... or maybe even (in some cases) (I am not sure about this one...) maybe << field names that might have been OK in the past, but even if they were ... they "no longer" exist in the given template in question, so those field names are kinda ... ["retroactively"] wrong >>. 
For example, when I changed [the BOGUS field name] "residence" to "place of residence" ... or even -- [a ONE character change!] -- to "rezidence" ... then I *did* start seeing some warning messages (of the expected kind);  ... but: NOT for the other BOGUS field names! ONLY for the BOGUS field names that had been caused by my own editing, during that editing session. (and ... this is a guess, but ... I suspect that it was the editing session, -- NOT the identity of the person doing the editing, -- that was making a difference.) 
As another example, when I changed [the BOGUS field name] "spouse" to "spouse if any" then I did see a warning message, of the expected kind. However, again, I saw a warning message ONLY for that one BOGUS field name that had been changed by me -- (and not changed back!) -- during that editing session. 
Is it intentional for a given WARNING message to be issued only during the editing session when the BOGUS field name was added? (or "created"?) Maybe; but that was not the impression that I got originally, when reading the suggestion (about [doing] that "experiment") that was suggested by User:Wbm1058 (above ... at "03:50, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  [a] When those "warning messages" DO/do NOT appear 

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message: I would love to collaborate with you by music over alcohol addiction it is a disease and your recovery is a lifetime. We have to stay sober every day and we have to try not to relapse and I have some words about it but I think we could put them together. And we can have a beautiful song 73.98.11.232 (talk) 19:54, 10 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music 

message: Hi my name is Madison Slusser I love your dance this week 208.38.225.14 (talk) 00:30, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dancing with the stars