Talk:March of the Penguins

message: Is this article accurate? It says that the breeding ground is closer to the open water at the start of the summer than at the end of it. The only way I know of for that to happen in that part of the world is for ice to form... which is surely going to happen in the winter rather than in the summer. It just seems wrong to me! Mawich 16:17, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Accuracy?

message: The article says Emilie Simon, but I have the CD and it says Alex Wurman. The front cover insert has the credits for the score and doesn't list an Emilie Simon. Did they use two seperate scores for the different language versions?
:The French version (original version) of the movie as the score written and interpreted by Emilie Simon. Lebel 01:22, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Score 

message: I have added a link to a New Scientist commentary by Andrew Walker. Being New Scientist, it is of course subscriber only but I have also listed the issue it came from so you can also look it up in the original magazine. I know many people dislike links to content not publicly available but I feel it summarises several other key arguments against using penguins as moral compasses and in the absence of an alternative, I think it should stay. Nil Einne 14:20, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you mean Matthew Walker.  Difficulty of access is not a reason for deleting a reference, though it seems your citation was tampered with between 2005 and 2008.  I found a copy of the article in a periodicals database accessible free-of-charge to many people with a college or municipal library card. --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 12:41, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Scientist link 

message: I've been told that the French version had, in addition to the human dubbing, a techno soundtrack.  Is that true?  24.192.17.34 05:47, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Partially true. The French soundtrack is more pop than techno, and has vocals.  You can listen to clips on the amazon.fr page:  Polpo 22:19, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Techno music? 

message: I've changed the name of the Dutch narrator back from Urbain Servranckx into Urbanus. That's how he's best known in Belgium and the Netherlands, and besides: that's the title of his article, too. Oliphaunt 22:57, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Urbanus]] 

message: I'm curious, does anyone think we can bring this article up to FA status? --ZeWrestler  Talk 13:53, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA suggestion 

message: The article says "... so that there is no danger of the ice becoming too soft to support the colony, or chicks falling into the water before they develop a waterproof coat ...". I know this is just the plot of a film but in real life Emperor colonies can loose the entire years chicks when the ice breaks up early.  I have seen it happen in summer 1995/96 on the Weddell sea.  If the article was about Emperor penguins I would track down a reference and note this in the main text but as it is just a plot this is probably less important.
Maybe the colony they filmed is in an especially safe bay but it is misleading. Should the main text be changed in some way to note this? --Mtpaley 12:08, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ice break up 

message: Just a minor observation, the title on "Marchofthepenguins baby.jpg" is "Penguin chicks playing.", I have spent many hours around emperor penguin colonies at all times of year and I have never seen chicks playing.  Once they leave the brood pouches they just stand around occasionally flapping their wings.  They often huddle with other chicks but nothing you could call play. I must admit that I have not seen the film but if it does show chicks playing then it is probably carefull filming+editing. I am not suggesting changing the article but given the overly serious nature of this discussion people should remember that it is just a film and they really are just birds. --Mtpaley 12:18, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know I'm responding to a decades-old comment, but "they really are just birds" and birds really do play. I haven't spent any time with Emperor Penguin colonies, but I spend a large amount of time photographing baby birds in the spring, and most of them engage in obvious play. If the reason for believing that they are not playing when they are "stand[ing] around occasionally flapping their wings [and] huddl[ing] with other chicks" is that "people should remember that... they really are just birds" then that basically proves irrational anti-bird bias. It may be that the climate they are born into renders their play somewhat subdued and opaque to outsiders.76.105.216.34 (talk) 19:51, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chicks playing 

message: What was that bird that tried to kidnap and eat one of the chicks?
It has been tentatively identified on bird watcher sites as the atartic skua, which does prey on penguin colony chicks.  Sandwich Eater 15:27, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Predator Bird? 

message: I would say this is a mid level personally it was a pretty big film DPM 18:53, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: importance

message: alright, i've been looking around, but i can't find out why the choice was made to remove Émilie Simon's music and replace it with Wurman's. is that information available anywhere? Whateley23 16:52, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why The Change? 

message: Please help add more references to this article so we can achieve GA-Class. —Viriditas | Talk 12:38, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good article status 

message: How about The Emperor's Journey? It is international English title. How should it be mentioned in the article? I know the film from this title, and I believe many do so outside the US, apart from original French name. IMDB mentions this name as well. --KINKKU • ANANAS 10:47, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Which countries used the title The Emperor's Journey in English?  --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 12:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Emperor's Journey 

message: Recently, 68.33.149.36 rewrote the subject matter section of the article.  After reading it over, it appears to be on the POV side to me.  The rewrite has some obvious problems with it, but rather than just revert it, I figured I'd get some second opinions on it to see what others think.  Should we keep it, fix it up, and add back material the anon user took out, or revert it back?  Any suggestions/comments? --ZeWrestler  Talk 16:52, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent rewrite 

message: This section was added to the article today by an unregistered user:
:Ironically, the production of the film itself also had unforeseen tragic consequences; all the penguins appearing in the documentary were excessively exposed to human pheromones, and were subsequently ostracized from their tribe. This led to the vast majority of the birds failing to survive the subsequent winter. This was discussed at length in 'Society and Animals' - P Porter , 2006, White Horse Press
P Porter has at least 2 articles in issues of that journal in 2006, available in several online databases.  The one mentioning the film in the title is:
* http://direct.bl.uk/bld/PlaceOrder.do?UIN=187033820&ETOC=RN
* http://www.ingentaconnect.com/content/brill/saa/2006/00000014/00000002/art00005
Unfortunately I don't have access to either of those databases.  I would like to see a full citation and a brief quotation before this is returned to the article, as I think that to do otherwise would not be in the spirit of the BLP policy. 
--Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 12:44, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  excessively exposed to human pheromones? 

message: This message, and the fact that the film's trailers and promotions do not mention the "green" dimension to the movie, has led to criticism from conservative reviewers for what they see as propaganda, which could in fact be the plot-twist that caps the storyline, films not generally revealing their ending in trailers. Filming a movie that has an environmental message aimed at children has provoked some controversy, although it might be overly emphatic. Critics of the film include Michael Medved [21], Neil Cavuto [22], and Glenn Beck [23].
I don't think this is particularly balanced. There is a paragraph where it is said that there is an environmental message, then there is this paragraph where a few people are cited as being upset about the environmental message in the movie. Where are the (what I would expect to be vast majority of) people who are actually happy for a mild environmental message to be in a kids movie? By only picking three right-wing conservative religious Americans for their views on the environmental message we are placing undue weight on a minority opinion. Also "critics" is used incorrectly, because critics include positive and negative critics. Sad mouse 16:59, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh??? TotalIssueee (talk) 04:14, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Environmental message 

message: Something appears to have gone wrong with the international versions section, launching into what appears to be a synopsis/plot of the film without preamble or a new subheading.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.140.146.240 (talk) 00:23, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  International Versions 

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