Template talk:InterWiki

message: ====Template:InterWiki====
This is just needless spam. Maybe it can sit in talk pages, but as it is used now as an article header, it is highly inappropriate. Even on talk pages, I dont see much relevance. See wikipedia:avoid self-references. --Jiang 17:21, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archived deletion discussion 

message: This is just needless spam. Maybe it can sit in talk pages, but as it is used now as an article header, it is highly inappropriate. Even on talk pages, I dont see much relevance. See wikipedia:avoid self-references. --Jiang 17:21, 26 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Template:InterWiki]]

message: this doesn't seem to do anything. Does it? MarSch 17:42, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Pervents the template from being printed. Nobody wants an interwiki box on his printed copy. Relevant bug --logixoul 12:18, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

text: http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-CSS2/visuren.html#flow-control --logixoul 12:18, 30 November 2005 (UTC)

text: No spacing CSS property exists, this snippet in the template does nothing, so I removed it. --logixoul 12:18, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: ...and Netoholic blew us both away -_- --logixoul 16:10, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  class="noprint" 

message: Should this template be used at English language#External Links.  I think that such a self-reference is necessary to comply with the spirit of Wikipedia: Avoid self-references.  The template would need to be included as  (because en: doesn't link to the main page for some reason).
Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 12:18, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been bold. —Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 15:45, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Use on [[English language]]?

message: I've added , the free encyclopedia to the template text so people know what Wikipedia actually is.  I don't think the edit is too controversial but please discuss here if you disagree.
Joe Llywelyn Griffith Blakesley talk contrib 12:41, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-wording 

message: Please sync with the InterWiki/sandbox to align this template with the usual style for these boxes (that is, use ). TIA. —Ms2ger (talk) 16:59, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I see this has been done by Shirik. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:28, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use {{tl|sister}} 

message: Hello experts, could anyone please check why this template is not working in the Pontic Greek article? Thanks a lot! --Kazu89 ノート 08:08, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. —Stephen (talk) 05:02, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem in Pontic Greek article 

message: Rich made some changes to change this template from using PAGENAME to using the language code to determine the name of the language.  Fram has reverted, so discussion is needed.  Some examples of pages which use parameter 1 are Ligurian (Romance language), Brunei, Bavaria, Basic English, Iceland, Guam and Lesotho.  An example of using PAGENAME resulting in inconsistency is Afrikaans which says "Afrikaans edition of Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" instead of "Afrikaans language edition of Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia", Esperanto, and Ido, Latin, Sanskrit, :Category:Choctaw.  Maybe some of these shouldn't have ' language' as it is superfluous given the context.  The same can be said for Arabic language, which makes just as much sense as "Arabic edition of Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" (i.e. not "Arabic language edition..").  More examples can be found by looking for transclusions at Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:InterWiki from pages which dont end in ' language'.  IMO using the language code is better as the template is also used on many pages which are not about the language, such as List of islands of Brazil. John Vandenberg (chat) 12:07, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Btw, we can use PAGENAME if the langcode isnt recognised, and automatically flag the langcode as unrecognised. See Template_talk:ISO_639_name#Duplicate_of_Template:Language. John Vandenberg (chat) 12:17, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Rich Farmbrough's change (which I reverted as an undiscussed change to a fully protected template, and which broke the template link on some 40-odd pages) doesn't add "language" anywhere apparently. It's consistent, I don't know whether it is better. I.e. on List of islands of Brazil, it would change it to Portuguese edition instead of Portuguese language edition. It also requires the creation of non-existent ISO 639 codes like Template:ISO 639 name simple, which is not really very professional. I see no real advantage in this change. Fram (talk) 09:43, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it does not require the addition of "non-existent ISO 639 codes".  The template would still accept a parameter that would override (like it already does) for cases where we have a wiki project that doesnt have an ISO code.  And we would still use PAGENAME if there is no better option. John Vandenberg (chat) 05:22, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The creation of that "simple" template by Rich Farmbrough and subsequent discussion gave me the impression that it was required though. I suppose you mean that still using Pagename is the solution you suggest, not the one Rich Farmbrough implemented and I reverted? Since in his version, all mention of Pagename had disappeared. Fram (talk) 08:09, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I am suggesting improving the template to use the 'code' parameter to determine the language name.  This is what Rich did and you reverted.  I still think that approach is the right direction, so now we discuss.  I personally dont mind that we have Template:ISO 639 name simple and other templates for languages without a ISO 639 value provided the template pages explain that they are not official values (it is an unfortunately useful hack), but recognising that some may find that hack unacceptable, I've suggested we use PAGENAME and an override as fallbacks so that we dont need to create pages for unofficial langcodes.  A blended solution which is backwards compatible, will result in simpler invocation in most cases, and (I think) no more complicated invocations than the current template. John Vandenberg (chat) 12:34, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  using language code 

message: I've modified this template so that it now uses the  and  magic words.
*The former means that we no longer get ugly outputs when  isn't specified: For instance, previously the pages Pitkern language and Norfuk dialect referred to the "Pitkern language edition" and the "Norfuk dialect edition" of Wikipedia. A), generally we refer to language editions as simply "the such-and-such edition", and b) in that particular case, and others like it,  gives you the wrong answer, since the two languages share a wiki. Now, on either page, you see the more accurate "Norfuk / Pitkern edition". (If other editors do feel that it should say "Norfuk / Pitkern language edition", they can feel free to change it; like I said, I think that sounds kinda weird.) Oh, also, if for some reason  doesn't work, the template will use the old  fallback (to which I've also added  as a bonus).
*The latter means that if no  is specified, the template will check to see if Wikidata has any value listed under its "Wikimedia language code" property. It won't effect the behavior whatsoever for uses of the template where  is specified.
Anyways, I see this all as fairly noncontroversial, but folks can feel free to WP:BRD, of course. — PinkAmpers&(Je vous invite à me parler) 23:19, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do you believe in magic words? 

message: I don't think we need a link to English WP at Barbados or the Falkland Islands.  What possible function would it serve?  Likewise links from biographies or lists of islands, though I did leave on at the List of Nepali actresses just because so many of them were red links.  We should have this, where?  language articles, articles about those other 'pedias, lists of country-related links and outlines of countries, maybe?  Or is even that too much?  — kwami (talk) 04:43, 22 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overtemplating