Talk:Evangelical Friends Church International

message: EFI has changed its name to Evangelical Friends Church International, EFCI.  The changes have been made within the article but the title of the article is still wrong causing links to the new, proper name to work improperly.  Can this be fixed?  I am going to go create a EFCI article and link it to this one if I can.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.154.63.77 (talk) 19:44, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name change 

message: I know that EFI is generally considered to be part of the Quaker family, but they don't anywhere identify themselves as being part of the RSoF on their website. Nor do their constituent YMs, it seems -- they use the phrase "Friends Church" or "Church of Friends", or "Yearly Meeting of Friends". Perhaps a distinction should be made between Quakerism and the RSoF? Zach (wv) (t) 04:30, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually he touches on a good point.  It is my understanding that within EFI there is debate about offically creating their own church and becoming the Evangelical Friends Church (EFC).  I suspect that debate is related to the lack of discussion of the RSoF on their site.  Until EFI offically declears itself to be a different demonination (which I expect will happen slowlly and quietly) I believe that EFI is properly termed Quaker as they have a Quaker history and most YM's within the organization still consider themselves Quaker. --Ahc 04:05, 19 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: But Zach Alexander's basic question is whether we should distinguish between Quakerism and RSoF, and whether EFI should be classified as part of the first but not part of the second.  For me you have muddied the water, Ahc, by saying that EFI is properly termed "Quaker."  Do you mean that they are or are not part of the RSoF?  Logophile 06:55, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Logophile, I think the difference between Quakerism and the RSoF could just be that Quakerism refers more to the general ethos and theology/theory side (maybe summed up as an inward, listening spirituality) and RSoF refers to the more institutional side -- YMs, committees, and the like. Obviously they shade into each other -- like, the way we do business meetings is on the one hand an institutional/RSoF thing, but also an ethos/Quaker thing, since it springs very naturally from the Quaker spirit, IMO. Another thing to think of is that there were Quakers before there was a RSoF, which wasn't a phrase used until the mid 1700s I don't think. Also, I think Howard Brinton makes a distinction between the two in his Friends for 300 Years; I bet he has in mind a similar distinction, tho I can't be sure since I haven't more than skimmed it yet. Zach (wv) (t) 22:42, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are they a part of the RSoF? 

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