Talk:Helios

message: 1. "Clymene, Phaethon's mother, laments that Helios has destroyed her child".
Why?
2. Phaethusa and Lampetia are either daughters of Clymene or Neaera so they should be listed under Clymene which appears before Neaera or should be listed under both Clymene and Neaera.
3. "According to Homer - late 8th/ early 7th century BC: Abraxas, *Therbeeo."
What is "*" exactly?
If the horses were four what are the names of the other two?
4. "According to Eumelus of Corinth - late 7th/ early 6th century BC: The male trace horses are Eous (by him the sky is turned) and Aethiops (as if faming, parches the grain) and the female yoke-bearers are Bronte ("Thunder") and Sterope ("Lightning")."
Bronte and Sterope sound very familiar with two other characters in Greek mythology. Is it purely a coincidence?
5. Aeetes is mentioned 3 times in the "Notes" section. I believe the spelling should be corrected to Aeëtes.
ICE77 (talk) 06:19, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions and comments 

message: Going based off the guidelines set by Wikipedia, your contribution to the article complies with their rules and restrictions: you included an unbiased relation of information, you provided sources and maintained a neutral  I am not sure whether you chose to write about the Helios in the context that its written in this article. This article doesn't necessarily correlate with the branches of civic technology. I'm assuming that you meant to write about the Helios group that Barbara Simmons discussed in class. The Helios Group is more related to civic technology being that, as Barbara explained, was a hacking formula that could affect voting machines. However, if in fact you did decide to write pertaining to Helios, the Greek God then you achieved your goal. 
BHernandez1723 (talk) 06:58, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Hello Li.andy, ...

message: In recent years, Helios (in particular, his busts) has become a popular symbol for the Vaporwave art/media subculture. Would that be worth mentioning somewhere here, perhaps in a "In popular media" section?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.19.203.125 (talk) 18:47, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I have attempted to implement. I am not sure specifically what you had meant in terms of "Vaporwave art/media" but I have added a Modern Reception section for this to reference more modern artforms. C0137H (talk) 18:05, 5 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: So after a bit of research I figured out what you meant, added to Modern Reception. C0137H (talk) 00:02, 9 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Helios as a modern subculture icon? 

message: Since I don't want to start an editing war in the article, is there a strong reason to oppose the inclusion of romanization and translation parts of the language template? Various other articles on non-English characters include this, and I see no reason to delete this info, especially since it's included in a footnote and not the summary itself. I see you have deleted it in several other Greek mythology articles, and I myself do not agree with the deletion of information that can be useful to certain people, especially those who cannot read non-Latin alphabets. Regards, Deiadameian (talk) 13:33, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. Per MOS:PRON, a link to wiktionary seems enough most of the time. My primary concern here is that having lots of alternative renditions doesn't help the average reader understand the topic, even if you just end up dumping them into a footnote (which nobody is going to read anyway, if it's too big). The pronunciations are always exact copies of the "5th-century BC Attic" you'll find on wiktionary, and they are always unsourced anyway. Avilich (talk) 15:29, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:   I understand, though wikipedia article and wiktionary article are two different things, and I don't think wikipedia should operate on the basis "check this other site", otherwise there wouldn't be a text in any article at all, just multiple links to the sources available. I do think that the translation at least should stay. Regards, Deiadameian (talk) 15:48, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure I understand the issue here completely, but I do know that Wiktionary should not be used as a reliable source, nor as a substitute for any information deemed appropriate for the article itself. As for translations, they should, when appropriately sourced, definitely be given in the article. Paul August ☎ 16:55, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  But I usually leave a link to wiktionary, so it's not a 'check the other site', it's literally just one click away. I suppose I have no problem with the translation staying, but it is kind of pointless to romanize "Helios" again after you already introduced the topic with that exact same spelling in bold. Avilich (talk) 16:33, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

text:  The wiktionary links are for trivial romanizations and pronunciations only. With regards to translation, the only thing in dispute here is whether to include it in the lede. Avilich (talk) 17:30, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language template 

message: Is there a reason for moving all of that information out of the note? It makes the lead much less readable in my opinion. – Michael Aurel (talk) 21:34, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It does not look too bad, I think. It is less than half a line long. Deiadameian (talk) 18:53, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:   My only issue is that we only say "is the god and personification of the Sun ..." after close to one and a half lines. This is the change I made originally, and I think it was a reasonably good solution, in that it brought that main phrase ("is the god and personification ...") to the front. I won't change it, though, if you're happy with it as it is currently. – Michael Aurel (talk) 20:45, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:   I think both are good, just figure it out with  if and when they respond. Deiadameian (talk) 22:30, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made an attempt at a compromise version. I agree with Michael, the phase "is the god and personification ..." should come sooner. But I also think it is important to have each of the bolded terms in the lead, and not in a note. Paul August ☎ 03:09, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This is fine by me. Deiadameian (talk) 8:56, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

text:  I think Paul's version works well. This way we have the most important information presented first, while keeping the pronunciation and Greek in the lead, rather than putting them in a note. – Michael Aurel (talk) 09:19, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linguistic information moved back into lead 

message: Read Greek new testament.  Αποκάλυψη or the apocalypse of John. 75.73.228.105 (talk) 16:45, 5 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: What sort of change to the article are you proposing? Deiadameian (talk) 07:31, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interesting fact. 'Ηελιος is also referred in the Christian Bible as GOD.