Talk:Republic of New Afrika

message: I was thinking about getting the map of the claimed States, but am a bit confused that Florida is not mentioned, when it might be logically included. Dunc_Harris|☺ 13:51, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I do have a problem with the removal of the micronation category. By definition micronations are entities that resemble recognised sovereign states but are neither recognised nor sovereign. This can range from 1-person web-based fantasies to legitimate realworld political organisations/secession groups like New Africa.--Gene_poole 22:44, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: Sorry, but it's a matter of basic legitimacy. If it looks like a sovereign state, behaves like a sovereign state, possesses instruments and symbols like a sovereign state, has the organisational structure of a sovereign state but is generally considered by most observers to make unenforceable, eccentric claims, and isn't recognised by any other country as a sovereign state (nor is there any likelihood of that happening), then it's a micronation. The claims made by New Africa are no more valid and enforceable than those made by Waveland, Aramoana or other micronations founded as a form of political protest - and they're a world removed from such groups as those actively seeking autonomy or independence in such areas as Western Sahara, Kurdistan, the South Moluccas and Aceh.--Gene_poole 01:40, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: I agree with you to a degree, but I think the distinction is a bit fine. I'd class the Republic of Texas (secession group) on about the same level as the Hutt River Province or Sealand. They all take themselves deadly seriously (at least in public), but they're still just micronations, because their view of their place in reality is decidedly eccentric. Don't forget that until a decade ago "serious" micronations were pretty much the only sort there were. The web-based "hobbyist micronation" phenomenon is a conbsequence of the internet, and is a recent development. --Gene_poole 06:14, 31 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: Good point. -Willmcw 06:50, 14 September 2005 (UTC)

text: The Yahoo! Group was added because it is one of the oldest existing portal groups that has been discussing RNA and New Afrikan Independent Movement (NAIM) news and issues.--infoseeker560  03:55, 11 Nov 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: In the next few months I would like to "clean up" this article because it doesn't give the subject proper regard. There are several glaring inaccuries that need to be corrected; historical facts that need to be further explained; and missing aspects of RNA history vital to a fuller understanding of the New Afrikan Independence Movement.
For the record, I have served as a National Officer of the PG-RNA (Provisional Government - Republic of New Afrika) and have a firm grasp of the ideology (New Afrikan Political Science) that gave birth to the Republic of New Afrika.
Tunis (talk) 01:42, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I support improvement of this article.  Some improvements that come to mind:
* Clarify if the organization is still functioning, and if not, approximately when its activities ended.  The article seems to speak of RNA in both the present and past tense.
* A writer above suggested that RNA did/does not favor labor unions.  This suggests that exposition of its general ideological tendencies would be helpful, and to what degree RNA had ideological principles other than strictly African Diaspora sovereignty.
* Improvement of the maps.  Other than the 5 states mentioned, the specific territorial claims are not clear.  (It may be that RNA's claims were not very specific.)  The map above in this Talk page gives a finer gradation of Afro-American percentage of the population than the one in the article, which has no division points between 5% and 50%.
* Additional pages on the "shootout" events would be helpful, as those events were likely to have had complex causes, disputed events, and multiple consequences, and are likely to be important to a study of RNA's history.
* A longer list of the "numerous controversial issues" would probably be illuminating, as the article currently lists only three events.
DWorley (talk) 02:06, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greetings 

message: Where did this flag with a small red band and two larger black and green bands come from?  I've only ever seen the Pan-African flag used.  QiwXAatUnL (talk) 06:22, 2 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag 

message: This article on the "Republic of New Afrika" begins with outlining its three main goals and what it's vision was, but lacks citations and reliable sources that tell the reader where this information came from. The three goals are outlined in bullet points, but in none of these paragraphs is there a citation explaining who outlined these goals. There is a similar problem in the closing of the first section which has already been exposed by an editor where the author of this article does not cite who had this vision and who was a part of this vision. The information is neutral but it is not backed by citations to prove that it comes from reliable sources.
This article exclusively talks about the Republic of New Afrika's history, notable members and it's role in popular culture, but it does not go into great detail about how it was viewed in the public's eye. This article cites incidents such as attempting to assist Oceanhill-Brownsville in seceding from the United States and a shootout at the New Bethel Baptist Church but it does not give information on what the public thought of these incidents. Although it also talks about its contentious relationship with the FBI it does not say whether or not it had public support and whether or not the people felt the same way about them as the FBI did. 
I thought the inclusion of "See also" provided interesting links that are related to the topic. I think this section could be improved by providing links to more groups that either supported or opposed this movement to provide further insight into what this group was about and who they either inspired or upset.
Mfisch29 (talk) 01:17, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critique 

message: This page, although containing a lot of interesting information, contains virtually no references or citations. There is a lot of work to be done in terms of attaching reliable references to the facts provided in this article. The lack of references makes it hard to evaluate if the information provided is up to date or reliable. 
In addition, much of the information provided in the article is incomplete in some way or another. First, the "History" section explains that the movement was under investigation for a while, but does not explain if this led to the demise of the movement, or what the status of the movement is today. Second, another part of this article that appears incomplete is the section titled "Notable Members." This section lists the important members and leaders of the movement, and although it is possible to click on the names to learn more about them, I think this article could benefit from the addition of short descriptions of who each of the members are. Third, the "In popular culture" section says very little about the two separate anecdotes they provide. In particular, the second point made about the New Africa House at the University of Massachusetts Amherst seemed very incomplete and/or unclear. A couple more sections describing how this connects to the Republic of New Africa movement couple definitely help. 
- Claireregan1206 (talk) 00:34, 3 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critique - 2 

message: Given the considerable academic studies of civil rights and black nationalist movements by African-American historians since the late 20th century, I would think there are now other sources for information about this than the primary writings of proponents of the movement. It definitely needs bolstering of sources and greater explanation.Parkwells (talk) 17:04, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Agree it needs more cites

message: Could it not be described why and when the movement changed the spelling of "Africa" to "Afrika"? 185.65.251.50 (talk) 18:44, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  From Africa to Afrika 

message: Please let me know if anyone would like this hardopy charter?? Found it when cleaning my garage. dlynnewise @ gmail 2601:CD:CC80:AAC0:50AB:45BE:6985:4007 (talk) 18:28, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Draft Charter for A New City: Republic of New Afrika, Philadelphia PA 12/1980