Talk:Jeans

message: I added a small tidbit about slavery into the origins of jeans... If anyone finds the source to be unreliable but finds something more dependable, that'd be great! I feel like it's an important factor in its history. 
Ameliaober (talk) 06:31, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Some more in depth info about slavery?

message: Initial paragraph said that traditional jean manufacturers included Jordache.  Jordache is not traditional and originated in the 1970's.  Replaced it with Lee Jeans.
Also, I hope I speak for most when I say:  Ted Fox, you have contributed nothing constructive to this conversation.  Please keep your offensive comments to yourself.  Johnbradleytlh (talk) 21:55, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor Edit 

message: This lists types of *denim clothing* -- not jeans. I have moved it to the denim page. Naniwako 18:23, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Types section 

message: Aren't jeans supposed to refer strictly to pants made out of denim? I think that's supposed to be their defining characteristic.
As I understand it, jeans were canvas before denim, tho when you think of jean jackets and jean skirts the term has indeed come to imply denim.
It would be good if the article could actually DEFINE jeans,which it doesn't at present.IceDragon64 18:45, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Corduroy" jeans? 

message: "In Eastern Europe, blue jeans symbolize American culture and "the good life". - Removed that false statement which isn't citated or backed up.  In My firsthand experience in life in eastern europe the statement doesn't apply at all or thought about that way.  Jeans are a global fashion, though originating from America.  If it isn't false, it is surely an outdated statement. Mehicdino 20:09, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Good LifE"

message: I'm not very familiar with the current standard in jeans sizing.  I believe several countries have their own systems, sometimes multiple (USA's male waist/inseam vs USA's female single digit).  There seems to be no online source for a conversion table or explanation and a wikipedia article would be perfect for this.  24.108.153.22 10:39, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sizing? 

message: I completely disagree with the assessment that a pair of jeans costs $80 these days. If you're shopping in Urban Outfitters or Banana Republic, then yes, they can be that expensive, but most people (among Americans, anyway) wouldn't pay more than $30 for a pair. Thoughts? HunterXI (talk) 20:03, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the source of that citation is difficult to find online, what proof is given in that source that the $50-$80 jeans are actually the same quality as the ones produced in the 1880's? How do we know that the $30 jeans aren't just as good (if not better, as is the case with my own experience)? 63.87.189.17 (talk) 22:33, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cost of Jeans 

message: was wondering if anyone knew anything about the smaller pocket within the right hand side pocket of many jeans?
:I believe it was also used for a coin pocket.
::its a watch pocket
:::In Australia I grew up calling it a "fob pocket" — Hippietrail 02:19, 10 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I just found out today that that pocket, on all of the jeans that I own, snugly fits a Zippo lighter Zoobtoob 23:30, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: it's where the fob when wich is the danggly part of a pocket watch
Levi's ran an ad where a man uses the pocket to keep condoms ending with.  "The watch pocket, invented in 1873, misused ever since."  BKnoss 17:00, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

text: It's probably a mix of the watch and the jeans--if one tries to fit a larger watch into a smaller watch pocket, the fit will be off. I have an open-faced Vacheron Constantin watch (Swiss-made) from 1908 that could fit into the watch pocket of my Levis. However, the watch pocket, unlike the larger side pockets, is generally unlined, and I wouldn't want to expose either the glass or the gold of my watch to rough denim. I wouldn't suggest wearing a pocket watch with jeans, but if you do, I think it would be wise, indeed, to keep the fob in the watch pocket (making the Australian term probably the more sensible), and the watch itself in the larger pocket, where it has at least some protection (the lining is usually still rough, but softer than denim). Anglican (talk) 18:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  smaller pocket 

message: Why do you have to turn them inside out before placing them in the washing machine? Is it to protect the washer from rivets and buttons? Or does it wear out the color like this link suggests (), ()?--Jerryseinfeld 14:40, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  When washing 

message: It would be helpful if someone knowledgeable in the different type of fits (straight, bootcut, etc.) could put some photos or sketches distinguishing the different types of jeans styles.
:Agreed. I can't be the only person who finds it rather confusing... --11:12, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: jeans were nused as a flotation device. tie the legs together and capture air in the open part and vwala a flotation device
JEAN ZENTELLA ANGELES  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.95.138.208 (talk) 23:45, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fits 

message: 'Levi's are known for their rugged construction, personal "shrink-to-fit", and versatility. Originally worn by miners, farmers, and cowboys, Levis are worn and seen in all walks of life.'
What is this, a Levis ad? And what does it have to do with the section it is in, Levis in popular culture? I've added a cleanup tag. - David Scarlett 22:21, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup - Jeans in popular culture 

message: i think that something explaining all the popular types of jeans, like low riders, torn jeans, bell bottoms, etc. would be beneficial. i was surprised that these topics already didn't get more coverage in the article. Joeyramoney 21:05, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  proposal for "styles" subsection 

message: "Western Europeans may press their jeans like dress pants for a more formal appearance" - sorry but this is nonsense! I've removed it. 143.252.80.110 18:37, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pressing jeans? 

message: Didn't a couple of kids in the soviet union get executed (or arrested) for wearing jeans
That's changed my entire outlook on the Soviet Union, They can't be that bad if they banned jeans!-Ted Fox 14:00 23 March 2008 (GMT)
:No, of course not.  Jeans were difficult to find in shops in the USSR, since they had to be imported from America (and, for many and obvious reasons, trade between the U.S. and USSR was at a minimum).  However, if you were able to find them, there were no restrictions on wearing them.  In fact, jeans were a major fashion statement in the Soviet Union: if you were wearing jeans, somehow you were able to own a piece of the West.  In addition, Soviet citizens who visited Western countries often brought back quantities of jeans to give away or sell once they returned home.  In some extreme cases, jeans became a kind of substitute currency, when money alone wasn't enough to entice someone to do or give something. --Ericdn (talk) 20:05, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  prohibition 

message: Kinda surprising since jeans are such an important part of global fashion --AnYoNe! 13:30, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As so often happens on Wikipedia, an important section was lost during a clumsy reversion of vandalism. Instead of actually reverting the vandal's work, an anon user deleted the nonsense, not bothering to check that the nonsense replaced a whole section of the article. --Tysto 04:01, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Such a small article 

message: Well, I just finished sorting the 'fits' list so then it's all in alphabetical order (with the exception of '"mom's" jeans') and also added "Relaxed fit" to it.  --Ampersand2006 ( talk · user page design  ) 02:08, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sorting the 'fits' list 

message: If the two are listed as different styles, why does the page on the former redirect to the one for the latter? I'd fix it myself, but I'm not actually too savvy on the difference. 90.198.88.230 (talk) 21:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I added bootcut to the list on bell-bottoms and fixed the wikilink so it wouldn't redirect. Carl.bunderson (talk) 04:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bootcuts and bell-bottoms 

message: In 1885 jeans could be purchased for $1.50. Today, some jeans cost $200 to $500 with limited-edition and collectibles costing up to $2000.
 
Sorry Guys, but even though they might have cost 1.50, due to inflation 1.50 was worth much more than it is today. Could smnone edit it, so it doesn`t look they increased prices by 1000%. --87.185.96.57 (talk) 13:13, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prices 

message: Anyone can help me to add a picture? It is an ancient painting of General Giuseppe Garibaldi and the garibaldini troops or mille wearing jeans during the campaign of Marsala of 1860. Thanks.
http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=garibaldijeansmw9.jpg
Karanko 12:18, 23 Jan 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: This strikes me as too much, unless it actually refers to "accumulated over lifetime", and then it would make more sense to me. I really do not think seven pairs in a wardrobe at any given time is an average... I'd say 1.5 is more like it among people who do use jeans, and 0 among those who do not (duh!), for an actual average of less than one. elpincha (talk) 17:18, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You obviously haven't seen the closests of some of my college roommates.  Back in high school and college, I knew (far too many) classmates who owned no other pants but jeans, often including a black pair for "dressier" occasions. --Ericdn (talk) 20:07, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Average ownership of seven pairs? 

message: I think something should be noted about Denim Jeans' unnatural ability to ruin anything vulnerable to scratching. If you repeatedly put a cell phone in your pocket, its only a matter of time before the screen is covered in scratches.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.32.240.148 (talk) 23:49, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pockets 

message: Could some of the experts have a look at this article and see what they think?  At the very least some citations would be nice... ChildofMidnight (talk) 18:53, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be deleted outright or redirected here. There is no suitable content to justify a separate article. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 19:12, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Ripped jeans]]

message: The story about how jeans started is different here than the story on the Levi Strauss page, which cites a source. Maybe we should copy the story that's used there?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iain.dalton (talk • contribs) 23:05, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Riveted Jeans 

message: What is up with this section?  It seems ridiculous at best, inviting shilling at worst.  Also, doesn't seem to be encyclopedia worthy.  Propose deletion? 68.162.167.207 (talk) 19:06, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. Removed. Doctorfluffy (robe and wizard hat) 21:50, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Quotes about Jeans" 

message: "Randy Bister, a potato farmer from South Carolina, was the first to utilize "over-alls" as farm attire."
This REALLY needs a reference. I mean, do we actually know for a fact that the first farmer in the US to put on a pair of overalls was a dude named Randy in SC?!
Who is this Randy Bister? What year did he put on the overalls? How do we know some other farmer in Michigan was not already wearing overalls the year before?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmvidal (talk • contribs) 18:56, 1 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Randy Bister? Seriously!? 

message: The article mentions "pre-shrunk" jeans as being sold no earlier than the 1970s, treating it as a late innovation. Yet "sanforized" denim trousers, which were treated to produce minimal shrinkage prior to being sold, have existed since the 1930s. While it is certainly true that various "aging" techniques came about later (both stonewashing and the various "pre-distressing" techniques used to create an already ruined worn look), "pre-shrunk" is not such a recent phenomenon. --Julian Grybowski (talk) 01:49, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sanforized jeans 

message: Etymology needs citations. Anyone?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.86.228.158 (talk) 09:27, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology needs citations. Anyone? 

message: An oft-told "attractive myth" is that Levi initially sold brown canvas pants to miners, eventually dyed them blue, turned to using denim, and after Davis wrote to him, Levi added rivets to his blue jeans. However, this story is false and probably due to the discovery of jeans made of brown cotton duck (a type of bottomweight fabric), which was one of the early materials used by Davis and Levi Strauss after 1873.[1] Finding denim a more suitable material for work-pants, they began using it to manufacture their riveted pants.
This is very confusing. I don't see where the "false" part of the story ends and what the "true" story exactly is. They seem to overlap. Could someone clarify?
50.161.35.73 (talk) 08:44, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing section 

message: Is Bangladesh the only place Jeans are made? All the image gallary is from one country. --Inayity (talk) 03:03, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bangladesh 

message: How much is jeans trousers his "creation"? What is the key point that we can underline as original idea? Use of rivets to reinforce two pieces of material is not his invention, as it was used for quiet a while in leather military belts for example ( and probably in more products ). Denim was also know for few centuries already. What would be a feature distinct enought to call Davis "creator"? Such information seems to be missing. Was it set of pockets? Don't see any originality either. I hardlee even see why he recived patent back in times ass all main ideas and materials were already known. 195.150.224.69 (talk) 23:22, 3 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "created" by Davis 

message: Note sure whether it should be under it's own section, or sub'd to one of the existing ones, but surely there should be some note of the typical distinctive construction features of jeans:
* Deep curved front pockets
* The secondary 'fob' pocket
* Contrasting bar tacks
* External manufacturer's label, larg one on the back, small 'tab' elsewhere
* Topstitched felled seams
* Back yoke
While not all jeans will have all of these features, other styles such as chinos or dress trousers have none of these features. Snori (talk) 09:26, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Other construction details

message: What is the point of this paragraph? Without comparison to other fabrics and their cleaning methods and durability, it seems to be more 'leftist 'do-gooder" propaganda/criticism' than anything else.
For example, what effect does production of synthetic fabrics have on the environment? If you buy pants that don't last as long, and they're obviously 'replaced', they still use the same amount of water to wash them, and production of them more affects the carbon cycle. And what about sending clothes to the dry cleaner? Trips to drop off/pick up also have an effect on carbon cycle and the environment that jeans you wash at home don't. Simple, 'obvious' questions; maybe the answers aren't, but this kind of entry is a 'loaded' one, with only half-the-story told. It "smells". Typical. 66.81.105.36 (talk) 04:28, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand what's "typical" - anyone is invited to edit and contribute to this encyclopedia, including you. If you don't like the way a paragraph sounds or feel that only half the story is being told then fix it yourself. Garchy (talk) 04:34, 21 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Environmental impact

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message: There are several references to youth, students, and subcultures in this article, but no references to the eventual popularity of jeans among all age groups. In particular, heiress Gloria Vanderbilt developed a line of jeans in her early 50s popularizing the item for middle-aged (and wealthy) women. Martindo (talk) 11:56, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fashion