Talk:MapleStory/Archive 1

message: Anyone editing this page should read Wikipedia:WikiProject_Computer_and_Video_Games so that in the future, perhaps this article can join that project. -- Prod-Me 03:15, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This article is once again starting to get big.  At the moment the largest section seems to be The Maple World.  I havent properly read through it, but it seems like it could be shortened.  Either that or we move it into its own page. --Prod-You 22:30, 3 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved to MapleStory World --Prod-You 18:33, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: The Maple World

message: It seems someone has been editing "Sleepywood.net" the largest fansite and "ohana" the largest guild in maple story. Please whoever you are dont edit them out it's annoying.
- Zeroo
:This is an encyclopedia, not a collection of guild website spam. --212.149.180.105 23:04, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed --209.193.46.108 23:12, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I do believe sleepywood is a good enough website to keep simply because it is one of the largest and most popular forums for MapleStory players. OTOH, guild websites have such a small user base (<100) that they shouldnt be included. -- Prod-Me 02:09, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fan Site's and guilds 

message: Glad to see someone made the article a complete bragging fest of people posting thier characters screeshots, when they contributed little to nothing to the actual article. Secondly, the 4th Job advancement has not come out, and it makes it look completely unorganized. This isnt an informative article anymore, its a show off competition. I wipe my hands clean of this article, Peace.
-Phantom
:The bragging was expected as soon as the pictures were added to the character class section.  I think you're just a bit annoyed with all the vandalism, and that your character is kinda low level compared to all the others :P.  However, this article still has good info in it and the only way for it to get better is if good editors help keep it clean ;);) -- Prod-Me 02:06, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I personally think the pictures should be removed, they don't really add anything to the article. The detailed character descriptions might also be better to be moved to wikibooks. --212.149.180.105 11:30, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoever remade the Article with no character classes did a VERY good job, perfectly done. Kudos.--IphantomI 13:13, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you :) You can still find them at MapleStory character classes -- Prod-Me 13:28, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Glad that the character classes are gone, but people are still replacing images on the character classes section of the page. I guess not much can be done about that...CMyst
Er, sorry, not impressed with the character screenshots...If you think you're such a high-level, think again. Wanna post screenshots? Don't add ones that you think show you in action, battling monsters with er, supposedly 'impressive' strength.
Raylena 19:20, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Article Is a Disgrace 

message: Looking at the descritions of each skill looks somewhat strange.  I'm pretty sure the info about what each stat raises comes from the formulae from A Drop of Maple.  I think it would be better if we just put up a section about any formulas we can find out about the game instead of saying it in words (with references of course.....) --Prod-Me 20:23, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I cleaned up the stat point section getting rid of that a little/lot stuff and kept only the major info.  The rest isn't that useful and can be found from the formulas. -- Prod-Me 14:35, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gameplay Section Discussion 

message: Should this be called MapleStory instead? On the game's website, it's always spelt without the space, and staff sign with "MapleStory staff" on the news. Enochlau 06:02, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea you are right.  I looked through the website and it always refers to it as MapleStory.  One thing to consider before changing the name is that the wikibooks link probably will break if the name is changed -- Prod-Me 12:08, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That should be ok - we should be able to move the wikibooks article, or failing that, put a redirect in place. Enochlau 14:02, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Done. Enochlau 14:09, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title of Article 

message: I removed this section from Wizet. It is blatantly non-neutral, but perhaps it's relevant to this article.
:It has been theorized by many Maplers, especially those among the hacking community, that Wizet employee's, especially Gamemasters, do not do their jobs well. This is a full blown lie. The GMs do their jobs, but some hackers come into the game undetected.
squell 01:43, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with getting rid of it on many levels.....mainly because none of it can be proven...... -- Prod-Me 02:10, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not familiar with MapleStory, but player dissatisfaction seems a common feature in MMORPGs. That doesn't necesarily mean unjustified. If there are some issues that people should know about (for example, if the GMs do not respond adequately to abusive behaviour), then this is worth mentioning in the article. Using a neutral point of view, of course. squell 02:54, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There is nothing extraordinary about the GM's for this game, but there is nothing lacking either. AFAIK they arent online all the time, but users of programs that are against the ToS do get banned, after theyve been reported. -- Prod-Me 04:41, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticisms of Wizet 

message: I read though the article and realise that some content (espically the lubibrium quests and cash shop) seem a bit too personal (written in first rather then in third person) for an encycopedia entry, espcially the guide for how to sucessfully go through the quests. Should be be modified to give a better NPOV?
:Are you using NPOV to refer to  a bias in this article or just to the "personal" parts?68.62.22.45 20:31, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article needs NPOV? 

message: "Players who are not able to afford these items due to real life monetary constraints, would trade the in-game currency, mesos, for the Cash Shop items."
Where is the proof of this? Cause as far as I know, CS items are only bought with real money. --Antoshi 05:48, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Cash shop items are only "officially" buyable with real cash, however some people dont want to spend real money on a game so they will make a deal with someone and say they will pay a certain amount of meso for a cash shop item.  The person would send the item as a gift, and the reciever would give meso in a trade.  Doing this is actually against the MS rules and you can be banned for doing this. Prod-Me 14:49, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cash Shop False Statement? 

message: I think a game guide belongs on Wikibooks (where all the other game guides are going right now).
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Maple_Story
Wikipedia should stick to its goal of a Free Encyclopedia. Yes, we need a wiki game guide, but IMO, a game guide does not go in an Encyclopedia. --68.33.164.12 03:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ewww... I didn't log in. My name: --Dragontamer 03:26, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no guide anymore, only a description of the classes. All MS guides are on Wikibooks. CMyst 02:52, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Description it shall be. It's considerably shorter than what it used to be. Enochlau 03:49, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia is not for a game guide, this is an Encyclopedia dang it! 

message: I'm considering a section on popular character name fragment fads such as "azn" (for Asian, although this is believed to frequently be used by non-Asians), "viet" (Vietnamese, also probably a false indicator of nationality), "SSJ" (Super Saiya-jin from the Dragonball manga/anime), "Sin" (assassin), and others. I'm a little hesitant since the same fads certainly crop up in other MMOGs - or any type of online community, for that matter. Let me know what you guys think and where (if at all) this kind of topic belongs. The Trashman 07:25, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming fads? 

message: Is ludibrium part of ossyria or not? --Prod-You 05:09, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ludibrium 

message: I have semi-protected it because I think this page has seen way more than its fair share of anon vandalism. When you go and edit the page, it says "WARNING: This page has been locked so that only administrators can edit it. Be sure you are following the protected page guidelines.", but if the edit box is white and not grey, then you are able to edit the article; the warning is a little misleading. enochlau (talk) 00:48, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And here i was hoping to become infamous.... T_T --Prod-You 22:01, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protection 

message: I added some stuff about the items. I have to do other stuff so i can't really finish. So i guess someone should finish it by adding some more info about the last 4 sections.  So Pro Lah 08:05, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help me finish the items section 

message: While vandalism and self-promotion aren't new in this article, I felt I'd point out something I noticed at least within the last day. Three users (more than likely all the same person), have been vadalising the link to Hidden-Street in the external links while promoting a website 'Happy Mapling' while has been accepted (or not?) into the external links section.
Link (Part 1 of 2)
Link (Part 2 of 2)
Link
Link
The point is, I'm not certain whether or not a warning is in order. Hopefully, Enochlau can decide that. --Antoshi 17:23, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hidden-Street Vandalism 

message: There doesn't seem to be any recent talk on the discussion page about the proposed cleanup. The page is going through contant change; the clean tag is inappropriate in this case.
Froth 21:19, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup? what the heck? 

message: Because this quest is such a prominent part of other Maplestory versions, I added a section for it here. I'm basing this section mostly on memory, so some inconsistencies may exist. For that reason I did not go into much detail in the article. Cheers.
:Personally I don't think its appropriate here.  It may be a very popular quest which all people who play the game look forward to....but I think a more general party quest section is far more useful that one about the specific Zakum quest. I'm suggesting it be rewritten.  --Prod-You 06:15, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zakum Dungeon Quest