Talk:Light novel

message: Didn't .hack actually start as a video game series? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.76.142.214 (talk) 
No, it didnt. It was a light novel first, then the anime and finally the video games, which were last.--Gigaguyser 17:16, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The original .hack storylines were the Anime, the Games, The Manga and the OVA. Speak not when you know not. -Annon3
.hack was a multimedia franchise with the different media developed simultaneously (novels, anime, games, ova, manga, cards,and some radio thing). Jyuichi 03:17, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: .hack series

message: Does Boogiepop belong in this list ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.249.82.222 (talk) 
Yes, it does. Boogiepop was originally a light novel which then became an anime, movie, manga, etc. See the Boogiepop page for more info. Rin Tohsaka 19:01, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Boogiepop

message: Can we get a picture of a sample page? Brutannica 21:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why? That would just be text like any other novel. Someone put up a Suzumiya cover today, but while that is a much better example of a light novel than Slayers, which is ancient history as far as the medium is concerned, I'm not sure I like the idea of tying it to any specific series. A better picture to illustrate this article might be of a light novel display at a Japanese book store. Anyone in Japan want to grab a shot and give us permission? Doceirias 10:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That person would be me. I hate store shots, though a picture of various light novels together might not be so bad. Something like :Image:Books.JPG, without the crappy blurriness. And actually, a image of an open light novel showing both text and the manga style artwork would be useful to the article.--SeizureDog 10:44, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My problem with showing the pictures and text together is that there are usually about ten illustrations in a 300 page volume. People seem to get confused enough about these being novels or some sort of text/manga hybrid. Seven Seas light novel line might make for some good photos... Doceirias 20:11, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the manga images are probably the most important part of what makes a light novel a light novel in my opinion. Otherwise, it's pretty much just a novella.--SeizureDog 05:07, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really. Like shonen or shojo, light novel is just a marketing term. Different publishers have a light novel division and aim certain books at those markets; while they're often of novella length in English that is actually standard novel length in Japanese. The illustrations are certainly a key factor in that, and the cover art is often credited with helping books sell well, but not all light novels have them. Crest of the Stars doesn't, for instance -- only the awful covers. Doceirias 09:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: God I hate having age/gender groups like "shojo" as genres; they're too damn unspecific. English does have some terms like chick flick, but at least they aren't used as technical terms. As for them being "the standard length", I don't know about that. Basically, the only Japanese lit I've read is Haruki Murakami's works, and they can get pretty long (The Wind-Up Bird Chronicle is 607 pages long). You seem to know quite a bit on the subject though, do you currently live in Japan or own some Japanese light novels?--SeizureDog 09:32, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I totally missed this, apparently. Words like shojo aren't genres, and shouldn't be used as such. Wind Up Bird Chronicle was published in three volumes in Japan, each standard length. I lived in Japan for five years and translate light novels professionally. I own several hundred of them. Doceirias 03:51, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually there are target audiences in English as well, such as the highly sought after Male 18-34 demographic.  You could call that seinen.  Ad supported media such as television & magazines tend to use such terms quite regularly.  Like he said, it's a marketing term.  24.255.227.118 (talk) 19:01, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: Dang, that was three reverts for both of us. Better move it here. Give me one reason why that link is worth adding to this page. I looked the site over carefully the other day and could see nothing that qualified it for linking here. Regardless of the site owner openly trying to figure out a way to support copyright violations on the forum - a personal pet peeve of mine, but not the deciding factor - this is a fansite maintained erratically by one individual. The information it offers is available elsewhere in more complete and reliable fashions, and it simply does not meet any of the standards for sources. Doceirias (talk) 22:40, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fansite link

message: Are all light novels published in bunkoban format? Shiroi Hane (talk) 14:10, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No; Jump novels, for instance, are not, and there is some disagreement about whether some book from Kodansha Novels or Kodansha Box qualify. Doceirias (talk) 19:28, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Format? 

message: The article doesn't mention what kind of books light novels are. Do they contain pictures? Text only?
The only mention of this is : "Light novels also frequently have very short paragraphs, often only one or two sentences in length, and are usually driven by dialogue. The overall effect is for a very fast read." Gambler Justice (talk) 13:21, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What are they? 

message: See new Light Novel section on Young-Adult Fiction article.Mike Klaassen (talk) 20:20, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Very glad that never happened.  Regardless of what the text of the article says today, there are absolutely things that are "not for underage" published under the non-trademarked "light novel" marketing term.  Thanks, Vollink (talk) 19:22, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with Young-adult fiction article? 

message: We should mention that they are done in anime/manga style art, but I'm not sure where to add this. Jaimeastorga2000 (talk) 12:45, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: How about in the Lead section. As it is, it's somewhere between confusing and misleading, and talks about light novels inspiring manga. Boneyard90 (talk) 04:17, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Illustrations 

message: The article currently says that light novels "rarely exceed 200 pages". I disagree. The source says "no more than a couple hundred pages". I believe that the intended meaning of "couple" is "few", not "two". Light novels under 200 pages are rare; most are somewhere between 200 and 400 pages.
67.148.124.2 (talk) 08:54, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  200 pages 

message: Since the previous lead lacked quality in general, failed to point out important aspects about what is a light novel and had some information of dubious truthfulness I rewrote it in a more concise manner while adding more information and more sources to its content and also correcting some mistakes made by previous editors. - Cilinhosan1 (talk) 06:20, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I put a block of text under the talk page heading 'Format?' above about how I think the intro is wrong, though I imagine it has deviated quite a bit since you edited it 5 years ago (I'm not blaming you, nor did I go looking for blame).  Thanks, Vollink (talk) 19:26, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead Rewrite 

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message: "Light novels became an important part of the Japanese 2D culture in the late 2000s."
2D culture?  Can we link to an explanation of this term?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.80.55.112 (talk) 17:00, 29 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with this.  It seems like a way to say "non-video game", but like any other media, light novels are both the origin and vessel for stories across all other media.  I don't know of a good way to edit this without making someone else angry though.  That is, I'm not even sure of the original intended meaning.  Thanks, Vollink (talk) 19:30, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: 2d

message: There were some edit made that tried rewrite this article by just removing references to japan and replacing it with china and korea. From looking at sections from the Korean and Chinese language versions of this page it looks like a section on the international spread of light novels outside Japan could be added with information from those versions.Docarc (talk) 06:46, 12 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: International Expansion

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message: What exactly is described to be a "wasei-eigo", i.e. a pseudo-anglicism:  "raito noberu", or "light novel"? If the former: how is that in any way an "anglicism"? If the latter, are you sure, as it looks very much like it were indeed a form of light literature, and one apparently resembling a novel, too?
It looks like a very alien thought & expression pattern led to a probably simple idea being twisted and overly compressed into a short and lacking English sentence, leaving us with more questions than answers. I'm removing this bit and placing it here, until it's been clarified.
Original sentence:
:The term "light novel" is a wasei-eigo, a Japanese term formed from words in the English language.
My attempt at making sense of the above sentence was:
:The term "raito noberu", 'light novel', is a wasei-eigo, i.e. a term formed from made-up words which sound English to Japanese ears, a so-called pseudo-anglicism. 
But then I became unsure if I got it right: neither raito noberu, nor "light novel" actually sounds like a pseudo-anglicism to me, and that's how wasei-eigo is explained: as a pseudo-anglicism.
A proper "Etymology" section is a must! Arminden (talk) 07:46, 16 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nonsensical, equivocal attempt at definition 

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