Talk:Black Irish

message: I have merged the article to Irish people#Black Irish as discussed above. I don't propose to merge this talk page. It should still be here if the article is re-written in the future. I added the one sentence that unambiguously and verifiably referred to Y chromosome haplotypes and the "Iberian connection". I didn't add anything about the "Myth of the Spanish Armada" (a) because the myth itself had never been explained or even properly stated in the article and (b) because the only citation was an image (viz. a map) which made no reference to Ireland. The "Myth of the Spanish Armada" could still be added to the Irish People article if it was considered important enough, and if it could be properly explained and sourced.  Scolaire (talk) 07:59, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: IMAO, the myth of the Spanish Armada should be consigned to where the rest of the Armada went - Davy Jones' Locker. Hohenloh  +   10:02, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: SOL (snigger out load).  Scolaire (talk) 15:11, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Previous versions of the article did provide a reference - to P. Kunesh's The myth of the Black Irish: Spanish syntagonism and prethetical salvation, published online at: www.darkfiber.com/blackirish/ which provides a detailed, well referenced explanation and repudiation of the myth. Granted the story itself may belong on the bottom of the sea. I don't see any merit, however, in arguments suggesting discussion of the myth should meet the same fate. I do however agree the topic is better served in its new location though I have added of a line regarding the myth and linked said article. Ajwitney 15:26, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: This term of black Irish, has only ever refered to the Irish tribe of people with dark hair and mainly blue eyes and very white freckled skin.
There are many black Irish actors to refer to for this point.
Black Irish has never and will never refer to Africans in Ireland.
This is just American culture trying to rewrite historical facts.
There are 0.001% of Africans in Ireland and they have only arrived to Ireland in the late 20th century.
They are called African/Irish... Not black Irish.
You can't change history to suit American racism issues and then force it onto other races of people. 120.17.35.46 (talk) 22:32, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I second this statement. My father was born in Ireland with black hair and tan skin. He has always referred to himself, and others have as well, as Black Irish. For those of you who say this is a myth, please explain why my father and his family were discriminated against with this name. They were treated with less respect than their pale skinned, red-haired counterparts. 2600:1700:E21:5570:6D2B:A31:220C:BA37 (talk) 18:32, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: There are black Irish and red Irish, referring to hair color, but not related to Africa at all. This article needs correction. 2603:6080:6905:2DF4:BCE2:A7C0:CD8D:F73E (talk) 17:03, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
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message: Have you refered Back to articles like this one: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-017-17124-4/figures/3 142.115.222.231 (talk) 12:43, 31 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Celtic Ibérian « Spanish » contribution in Irish and english DNA