Talk:Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas/Archive 1

message: I see in the table the person has listed players 1-2.  That's kinda mean.  The people who haven't seen the leaked covers yet (all 1 of them) will be shocked. --TIB (talk) 02:09, Oct 20, 2004 (UTC)
::Why is it mean? The release is only a few days away. I wonder if it's even real, I doubt San Andreas will have multiplayer abilities. -- Sander 09:02, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Players of the leaked version claim that it will. See . --GatesPlusPlus 14:07, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I read it on [] yesterday. Sounds like an interesting idea. -- Sander 17:32, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Not officially confirmed, but there's co-op in a couple places. --Twinxor 18:10, 24 Oct 2004 (UTC)

text: Well now it's out and it's in the game there's no need to change it is there? --Vanguard 20:07, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)

text: At present, San Andreas has been reverted to an M rating after the version of the game with the sex minigame removed indefinitely was released, from an AO rating during the Hot Coffee incident. Unless there are intentions to include all three ratings (pre-Hot Coffee (M), Hot Coffee (AO) and post-Hot Coffee (M)), the current version is the best way to describe the current change of ratings. ╫ 25 ring-a-ding 10:47, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table 

message: It's Oct 26, stop changing it phillip.  gamespot still says 26. --TIB (talk) 05:09, Oct 26, 2004 (UTC)
And the Australian release date is 29, who changed that? I've put it back. edgeworth 10:49, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Date Dispute 

message: The article, Glory Hole Theme Park, was listed on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion in accordance with the deletion policy on 03:16, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Votes for deletion results 

message: Is it just me, or are half of the links about stuff to Gamespot? Seems wrong / unrequired. Scumbag June 29, 2005 08:26 (UTC)
::Not only that, but the images linked to don't work. All those links need to be taken out of the article. --Marcg106 18:49, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to Gamespot 

message: (The below coments have been copied and pasted from the above topic, where they did not belong.)
I'm an avid fan of the GTA games and don't consider myself a prude, but there's a screenshot of the hot coffee mod which I reckon should be removed. I'm not usually one for censorship but it just looks tacky or childish to have it there. I'm sure if someone wants to know what it looks like they can find screenshots by a link or something, not have it shoved in their face like that.
:Normally, I'd agree, if I didn't have to look closely at the picture in order to pick out what's going on. Really, it's crude, but leaves much to the imagination of children. Really makes you wonder how THAT scene gave it AO. --Zeromaru 01:34, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I also think that the link to the "Hot coffee cheats" should be removed too. -- 24.90.128.71 00:47 00:47, 4 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Pretty stupid, but this is an encyclopedia, so we can't deconstruct the arguments that the fact that it was even considered means the game should have an AO. Way I see it is if it isn't accessable in an unmodified release copy, it is user created content. Hackers or no. -- Fergdude33 22:44, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hot Coffee 

message: "Shortly after the release of the game, several message boards, and one very enthusiastic member of Neoseeker.com (DMC24guy), sprouted claims of alleged Bigfoot sightings, and several alleged photographs were released, all of which have been proven to be either faked or the result of mistaken identity by his leading critic (The Assassin). After the initial claim, many other people came to its defense, and many fan communities were divided on the claim's truth. Then a few months after the controversy died down, DMC24guy began to make new claims that The Assassin was his accomplice all along. This claim was later proven to be false after The Assassin posted a screen shot of a private message from DMC24guy, admitting that The Assassin infact had nothing to do with creating the Bigfoot Saga. However just recently (October 2005) DMC24guy has made yet more claims. This time he says that he IS infact The Assassin himself. Unfortunately for DMC24guy, The Assassin posted ANOTHER screen shot of a private message which totally discredits DMC24guy's claims. DMC24guy was infact asking The Assassin to help him concoct another "saga" on Neoseeker.com in an attempt to make himself known to the gaming world even more so. However, this time the chances of succeeding are quiet slim obviously."
This is a quote under the Myths and Easter eggs heading. In my opinion, I do not see the relevance between members of a GTA forum being discussed on the Grand Theft Auto: San Andrea’s entry. Granted, the Big Foot myths surfaced. However, this looks like a publicity stunt by a member of an online community.  It also looks like an online battle between two members of a community. A quibble between online communities and their members does not bear any relevance to this article. It should be rephrased, if not removed. Please give your opinions to this entry. Please use the `proper format for requesting support in order to ensure that you receive support. Ajwebb 03:20, 10 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, agreed. I think it should be removed, too. Replace it w/ one sentence... something like, "Some morons claim to have seen Bigfoot in the game, but they are either mistaken or dumb." That's all you need.  --Wedge 05:58, 10 October 2005 (UTC)

text: I agree as well. I am going to delete the section considering that the wording of the passage is unclear and several sentences seem to contradict themselves if not make any sense at all. If one can rewrite the passage in a more coherent way go ahead. --Offkilter 22:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bigfoot 

message: Some parts of the article needs cleanup, wikilinks and realocate sections (Gangs in San Andreas world?) --Mateusc 01:43, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree. This article is a mess. I found it particularly intimidating to read long sections like the Myths and Easter eggs section, plus the recent lengthy addition on gangs can be merged into a new article listing all gangs in the GTA series. The Law Enforcement Agencies section is totally unnecessary, though; the same types of law enforcers can be seen in most GTA games. ╫ 25 ring-a-ding 03:30, 13 October 2005 (UTC)

text: I agree as well. The Myths and Easter eggs section needs quite a bit of work done. There are other sections of this article that needs to be improved as well. I would have to agree with the ideas mentioned above. Ajwebb 00:04, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: Was Area 69 named as a reference to the 69 sex position? --SuperDude 06:08, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. It's RockStar, what else would it be for? The Wookieepedian 02:02, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't just apply to Area 69. The number "69" is pretty much everywhere in San Andreas: as runway numbers, price tags and even San Fierro's football team name (the 69ers). ╫ 25 ring-a-ding 11:39, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Area 69 

message: The following line is in the main article:
Many users have discovered that a mission requires the user to press three or more keys at the same time, something the typical keyboard is simply unable to do.
This would suggest that there are "atypical" keyboards that are able to handle three or more pressed keys at a time. Are there keyboards like this, and if there aren't, should this reference be removed?
:Yes, there is such keyboards. Older keyboards like mine have the tendency to support a limited combination of simultaneous keyboard presses. The same problem exists when I play GTA III and Vice City, but with less interference with game play. One (strange) example that I can point out is inability to steer left (with the left key) in a vehicle while holding the accelerator (up key) and horn keys (H key), but could still steer right (right key). ╫ 25 ring-a-ding 14:04, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Keyboard comment 

message: :A new criticism of San Andreas lies in its camera.  Previous editions of GTA games had the camera 'slaved' to the player.  In San Andreas, however, the camera is freeform.  As such, many have complained that this new 'feature' makes much of the controls more complex than is required.  There is an in-game cheat that allows players to drive-by through using the mouse camera, but doing so will harm your record in the in-game statistics.  However, you can still fully complete the game. This is not a widely spread complaint, and the freeform camera is a very powerful tool once the player is used to using it, and some find it difficult to go back to the fixed camera of Vice City and GTA3 afterwards.
I have modified the above statement as it is self contradictory. First it says 'many have complained', then it says this is not a widespread complaint. In matters such as this, it is very difficult to ascertain how many have this problem. So unless you can point to a scientific poll of people who have tried GTA:SA and show either way, I suggest we leave it more neutral as I have tried. That is, we should not try to indicate what percentage of users have or don't have this complaint (many, not wide spread etc). Nil Einne 11:08, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modified contradictory statement 

message: were is it\
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On top of a police station in Los Santos I saw one.
RandallFlagg Scotland 16:18, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is the police chopper? 

message: well?
Pece Kocovski 06:48, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  So what exactly happened to San Andreas after the controversy? 

message: Several WWII planes crash occasionally throughout San Andreas, and disappear seconds after doing so. Those that occur most often are crashes into Mt. Chilliad. Crashes also take place in other areas, including the lowland. This was programmed intentionally by Rockstar to add a feel of realism.
How is it realistic to have WWII-era fighters repeatedly crashing into the city and disappearing moments later?  Seems to me that the final sentence in the above quote is the conclusion of the user that added it and not Rockstar's official stance on the issue.  It's more likely that the crashes are simply poor pathfinder AI colliding violently with terrain mapping.  If no one objects, I'm going to edit that bit to make it less certain of unconfirmed "facts".  TKarrde 23:48, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seconded the change. This looks more of a user observation, and I believe that the crashes should apply to more airplanes, aside "WWII planes". ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 07:01, 19 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I think I read somewhere that the plane crashes were a mistake with the programming, but they liked it and kept it in. I'll try to find it. Corky842 05:29, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plane Crashes 

message: *Do people still edit this article? I've read it and I think is quite good. I'm gonna request a peer review to see if we can make it a Featured Article.Nnfolz 17:53, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A step further 

message: Does anyone think about making a separate page in Wiki for all of the storyline missions in San Andreas? There might have been talk about this already, I'm just expressing my view.
:I'm not sure about this proposition. Creating an article about a game's storyline and missions is not usually standard procedure in Wikipedia, though I do see that this sort of content as absolutely perfect in the game's Wikibooks entry in a Storyline section or the likes. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 16:50, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missions 

message: Hi.  I have removed this article from the Wikipedia:Good article listing due to the following:
*No references.  One of the GA criteria is that the article must have a references section.  Inline citations are preferred but not required.  When this has been addressed, please feel free to re-nominate.  Thanks!  Air.dance 03:59, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Delisted GA

message: This article was posted on GameSpot:
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6147626.html
Could anyone please write about this article in the Controversies section, and put the link into the Resources section? Thanks. Hoodie 11:59, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  April 13th Car Chase 

message: This page is horrible! It reads like a 9 year olds badly constructed geocities gta fansite! 202.191.106.230 04:50, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up, isle wikipedia