Talk:Ford F-Series

message: On all other pages on wikipedia with a history section, different eras are subheadings under the history heading. I propose making all generations under one unifying "generation history" heading, or a heading with a similar name. I don't see any need to have such a massive amount of primary headings for what are essentially small tweaks to a body design.
SortaScience (talk) 13:33, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: One Heading for all Truck Generations

message: FORD IS A SICK ASS TRUCK! WOOOOOH GO FORD!!!!
this article is extremely long, too long.  I suggest each generation should be split into it's own article and a brief summary added instead of a huge long section for each generation.  It would make the article much easier to read.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jlechem (talk • contribs) 19:15, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree  This is an article where that would work fairly well.  Splitting it up allows for further development without worrying about length constraints.  Although the content on the oldest trucks is a bit thin, I think it would still work if done correctly. At this point, however, it's nearly impossible to edit the whole article at once. --SteveCof00 (talk) 18:39, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Also agree, and there's so much detail that could be added to each generation, such as the inclusion of the variations of medium-duty models, B-Series school bus chassis, special trim packages, etcetera. I didn't like the idea of merging many of the foreign variations into this article such as the Ford Lobo. ----DanTD (talk) 17:40, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Split complete. I have retained short summaries in the main article. I trust that this is ok. Op47 (talk) 21:10, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split Genertions 

message: I propose that we merge Ford Lightning and Ford F-150 SVT Raptor into this article. They are merely performance/appearance-configured versions of the F-150, and I'm finding it difficult to see a rationale for them to have their own separate articles. There is also a more or less perpetual suggestion on the table, which has never reached consensus, to split this article somehow or another. If that were to be done, I would propose merging the Lightning and SVT Raptor into the resulting F-150 (or F-100/F-150) article. There is a reasonable chance that "repatriating" the Lightning and SVT Raptor into this present F-series article would move it to the tipping point of warranting a rational split in enough editors' minds to reach consensus on that point. So, I propose we go ahead and merge the Lightning and SVT Raptor articles into this one as a reasonable first step in reconsidering the distribution of our coverage of F-series trucks. Moreover, the present SVT Raptor and Lightning articles are extremely poorly written and improperly supported with non-RS sources. Moving their content to this article will bring it onto the radar (and into the field of view) of a wider array of editors; the quality of coverage will be improved much more rapidly than if it remains in separate articles generally receiving the attention of only a few enthusiasts of those particular models. —Scheinwerfermann T·C17:39, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree just because of how badly the Raptor needs coverage. --Dana60Cummins (talk) 22:40, 30 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Support merger. If the main page gets too bulky, then split by generation. OSX (talk • contributions) 05:57, 31 July 2011 (UTC)

text: So what happened to this pipe dream?--Dana60Cummins (talk) 12:49, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a pipe dream, but it's also not an urgent emergency. Most editors also have responsibilities IRL, and edit Wikipedia on a time-available basis. Clearly there's consensus to do the merger, so if you want to see it done right away…go ahead and do it! Otherwise you will have to wait until I or someone else will have the time. —Scheinwerfermann T·C13:34, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright. --Dana60Cummins (talk) 14:27, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Just FYI, the method of a merger is to incorporate the relevant content and refs from the source article into the destination article, delete the "main article: (source article title)" link from the relevant section in the destination article, and then convert the source article into a redirect to the destination article. Please see here for instructions. It is important if you take on the task to do the whole task, otherwise we'll run into problems. —Scheinwerfermann T·C17:54, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry about slacking off, and thanks for the help.  Let me know what else I can do if anything. --Dana60Cummins (talk) 19:17, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

text: I'll have to do some studying up on it first.  --Dana60Cummins (talk) 01:52, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If time lets me I will tackle this next week.--Dana60Cummins (talk) 21:13, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger proposal

message: Clarify this if I'm wrong, but don't the 1987-1991 and 1992-1996/1997 fall under the category of facelifted versions of the same truck instead of an all-new generation?  Although the front ends and interiors may look different, the cab and basic chassis are shared, as well as much of the powertrain (aside from the adoption of fuel injection and the change in diesel engines).  
In other words, a 1996 is as similar to a 1981 as a 1979 is to a 1973.--SteveCof00 (talk) 18:50, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct.--Dana60Cummins (talk) 19:14, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some things split up too much 

message: At the bottom of the section on the 12th generation, a subsection mentions that a European version of the F150 will be introduced, but it is unsourced. I checked the article history and found that it was added by a Malaysian IP address, again, without a citation.
Is there any verifiable source for this? If not, I'm removing it. Seems like an odd place to sell a full-size pickup anyway.--L1A1 FAL (talk) 21:27, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I tagged that statement with a  tag in case someone out there actually has the source information to back it up.  On the other hand, after reading the article information for the new Ranger, I am a little bit skeptical on the statements here.  The Ranger article goes into length on why it is not exported to North America and why the F-Series is not exported to certain markets.  As it is sold in "180 countries", that would almost have to include Europe by default.  And yes, an American-sized pickup would be a hard sell in Europe, to say the least.--SteveCof00 (talk) 05:23, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't dismiss the notion out of hand, though. GM has, at various times, officially sold their full-size American Chevrolet pickups and Suburbans in Continental European and Scandinavian markets. —Scheinwerfermann T·C18:45, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  European version? 

message: this is far from notable. A few guys who have modified vehicles and make unsubstantiated claims arent going to fly. Unless there was significant media coverage (more than a couple blogs) this should stay out. 207.216.253.134 (talk) 17:23, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As the refs show, it was notable enough for Ford to investigate and their engineers to comment extensively on. That makes it notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia, regardless of whether it offends some anonymous IP editor. If you feel this is in error, per BRD by all means work to attain consensus to remove the material in question. Til then, in it stays. —Scheinwerfermann T·C18:03, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Raptor frame section 

message: I believe its generations 3 to 7 that are missing full listing of available transmissions which would help the article if present. I'd like to try to get some info on this myself, but would be thankful if others could do some part on it. thanksKeserman (talk) 23:25, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  transmissions 

message: When did 2- and 3-point seat belts become standard? --Badger151 (talk) 21:36, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seat belts 

message: Why the hell were the pictures removed from each of the generations. THE CATEGORIES SHOULD HAVE A DETAILED DESCRIPTION OF ALL THE TRUCKS, IN ADDITION TO THE LINK TO THE INDIVIDUAL ARTICLES  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Swingcar (talk • contribs) 01:38, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing was deleted.  Generations got their own pages now.  Check it out.  --Dana60Cummins (talk) 01:55, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  No pictures 

message: Separating the F150 section makes this page utterly useless.  The entire point of showing multiple generations is to be able to compare changes.  Now the reader needs to wade through multiple articles and waste time instead of simply referencing the same page.  Was it long?  Perhaps, but instead of divorcing the models it could have been streamlined and one can simply use the reference list if the reader wanted more in-depth information.  Separating this is a disaster, but I'm open for discussion.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sloppy123 (talk • contribs) 04:42, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separating the F150 article is a disaster 

message: It now reads:
This EPAS is an advanced system which increases efficiency and driver control; however, these benefits are outweighed by the fact that this system provides a ride that "pops and clunks" over small imperfections on driving surfaces. In some cases, steering has become unresponsive to driver.
The TSB verifies the EPAS being unresponsive.  NOT "pops and clunks".  Unresponsive steering would be an issue with the EPAS.  "pops and clunks" whether referenced properly or not; isn't serious like a truck losing control.  "pops and clunks" still needs to go.--Dana60Cummins (talk) 04:19, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah that was re-added by one of the IPs. Enigmamsg 14:57, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've protected the page for 10 days.  The IP editor doesn't seem to have any interest in participating in this discussion.  --Daniel 22:15, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct.  I have got no response from the IP editors besides what little they have put in the edit summary.--Dana60Cummins (talk) 23:55, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

text: Well, it was one IP lately. I reblocked that IP. Until it becomes a bunch of IPs, I think it makes more sense to block rather than protect. Enigmamsg 15:32, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The IP user still insists on adding "pops & clunks" on wiki.--Dana60Cummins (talk) 14:54, 4 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I blocked it for two weeks. Enigmamsg 03:27, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Part 2

message: Although information is coming out about this vehicle, I still find it hard to include this in the article without this violating two things: WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL and WP:Original Research.  As it stands right now, it would be very difficult to write something that is well-verified.  (Right now, there are parts that are fairly subjective, contradict the source used, and others that are completely unsourced.  
Should we get rid of this content?  I'm not sure, but the section itself may need major improvement.  --SteveCof00 10:29, 3 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section on 2015 model 

message: ----
How on this Planet, we can be so shameless. The whole world knows Ford has lot of recalls, but not even one is mentioned here. The whole credibility of the article if not Ford is questionable.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daniash007 (talk • contribs) 17:06, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Learn how to edit Wikipedia and add the recalls you like.--Dana60Cummins (talk) 17:17, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Recalls

message: Vandalism rates are over 50% and closer to 100% this year.--Dana60Cummins (talk) 19:18, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: requests for changes to the page protection level should be made at Wikipedia:Requests for page protection. Cheers, LittleMountain5 19:29, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi Pro

message: The F-100 series ended in 1983, not 1982 as asserted in the article. I have one that was manufactured in May of 1983. This is important because of the longevity of the model. The transition to the F-150 came about as a way for Ford to avoid some of the emissions regulations placed on trucks with a half ton capacity or less. Ford purported that the 150 was a "heavy half," with carrying capacity just over the half ton regulation threshold. 
96.8.162.8 (talk) 23:37, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last year of the F-100 

message: The 23/30 MPG rating that keeps on showing up over the last year is being solely added by User talk:24.117.131.104  *(MPG ratings still aren't out)  --Dana60Cummins (talk) 23:37, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  23/30 MPG rating 

message: Has anyone considered adding a chart showing the base price of F-150s by year?
I think it would be a great addition to the page but I'm not quite sure where to get the raw data.
CycloneSteve (talk) 07:45, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Base price of Ford F-150s 

message: I notice that  redirects here, whereas  redirects to . Presumably they should both redirect to the same place. Which destination is better? —BarrelProof (talk) 14:58, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  F-350 redirect target 

message: I'm not sure if this ever got resolved before, so I'm reviving it anew.
As far as the F-Series generations are concerned, the eighth and ninth could also be considered facelift versions of the seventh; to a large extent, they are mechanically similar.  However, making a change to properly reflect this would be fairly major, as it would merge three articles and rename several additional articles.  To a lesser extent, this might also apply to the 1961-1979 trucks, though there was a greater degree of change than mere cosmetics, so it possibly can stay the same.
Thoughts? --SteveCof00My Suggestion box is open 07:04, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Generation setup 

message: I came to this page looking to see if a 1975 F250 had the option of a 360 engine. I notice there is scant mention of engines for any year. WHY?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by BrianAlex (talk • contribs) 14:32, 24 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is the list of engines? 

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message: "making the F-150 the lightest pickup available on the market" 
In 1983 the Ford Ranger was introduced.  So, something needs to be reworded: perhaps "lightest full size pickup" if indeed this is true to begin with.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.141.228.200 (talk) 22:26, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "making the F-150 the lightest pickup available on the market" ? 

message: There seems to be some confusion over whether to call the upcoming 2018 models a new generation (the fourteenth) or a refreshed thirteenth gen. The case for the latter seems to be much stronger--it's only three years since the last new model, and it's become customary for Ford to update the engine lineup halfway through a model's run (not just for F-Series pickups, but for many car models as well) without calling it an all-new generation. 192.190.207.188 (talk) 06:39, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  2018 model not a new generation, just a refresh? 

message: I have the 2008 105th anniversary edition of this truck and somewhere in my safe is the build sheet with this info. I have a tag on my door from Saleen as well. Saleen put some of the performance items from their S331 F-150 truck. These included the Gen VI supercharger and cab guages, an aluminum driveshaft, We were also given a mechanical fan due to issues with the electronic ones and cooling.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.221.37.184 (talk) 22:02, 14 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Select 2007-2008 Ford F-150 Harley Davidson editions were sent by the Dearborn Ford factory to Saleen to have a supercharger performance package installed prior to delivery to the dealerships. 

message: PLEASE ADD "VEHICLE DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION" TO THE BELOW SENTENCE REGARDING EXPORT.
VDC HAS BEEN CONVERTING FORD F-SERIES VEHICLES SINCE THE 90'S AND WAS THE ONLY FULL VOLUME CONVERTOR UNTIL PERFORMAX IN 2015.
 
In Australia, Ford F-series trucks are imported and converted to RHD by several Australian importers, mostly by Vehicle Development Corporation and Performax International. Stayunspoiled (talk) 02:58, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —KuyaBriBriTalk 12:30, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 June 2017 

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message: In the Motorsportssection, suggest linking to 2010 Dakar Rally.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.226.49.232 (talk) 08:26, 14 September 2017 (UTC)
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message: ## Most sales
I understand the F-Series is the highest quantity selling vehicle of all time. Even if this is not true, perhaps we can include some notable comparative statistics. Full Decent (talk) 03:51, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose we could add some additional statistics to the article, however, it seems to me that since we're talking about a series of vehicles consisting of a very wide range of differing styles, bodies, and categories, saying "the F-Series is the highest selling vehicle of all time" seems to be misleading at best.  Perhaps if you see some data on this from reliable sources, you can bring it to the article?  Centerone (talk) 18:20, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vehicle Sales Statistics 

message: While the transmission was indeed built in 2005, I can't seem to find any source that confirms it for the 2004-2008 F150. Not even f150hub.com has anything on the matter.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.156.34.121 (talk) 20:17, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Because no 6R80 till 2009 actually. Even Google searches didn't confirm one either lol. TruckFan9876543456 (talk) 00:12, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eleventh generation and 6-speed automatic 

message: I just wanted to point out that the Ford F series possibly begins with the 1941 F8, followed by the 1942 F15(4x2) and F15A (4x4), F30 (4x4, F60 (4x4) all designed by Ford Canada and designed to British War Department specifications and comomly know as Commonwealth Military Patten (CMP) and given the nickname 'Blitz'
Matthew58.174.14.183 (talk) 19:51, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ford F series - pre history 

message: Would info about this belong here or be worth adding? Ford is sponsoring the Rocket League Championship Series X and as a result, they are having the F-150 added into the game. It'll be added on February 20, 2021 and remain until February 28, 2021. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 20:48, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Since media and pop culture appearances are almost always non-notable (see WP:CARTRIVIA), I don't believe it would belong in the article. --Sable232 (talk) 22:08, 10 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ford F-150 RLE (Rocket League Edition) 

message: the 2003 heritage edition isn't even mentoined  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1700:5240:45A0:BCB0:DB24:D765:B13B (talk) 23:04, 23 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  2003 heritage edition 

message: Since the F-250 truck and higher are in Ford F-Series Super Duty, should we move this page to Ford F-100 and Ford F-150?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tergy (talk • contribs) 12:54, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 27 June 2022