Talk:Hector Barbossa

message: Possible plot hole: If, before the first movie (and the mutiny), Barbossa was just Jack's first mate, how on earth is he one of the nine pirate lords?
:Ah, but also, before the first movie, he also took the Pearl, the cursed coins, ect, ect, so it would've been before the first movie that he also became a pirate lord.  Captain Drake Van Hellsing 10:16, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I realize this is a late answer, but the fact is that the previous Pirate Lord of the Caspian Sea handed down his piece of eight, thus making Barbossa a Pirate Lord. It doesn't matter if he and Jack are both, erm, "Captains" of the Black Pearl. I hope that clears up a doubt from last June :) BlackPearl14Pirate Lord-ess 03:15, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pirate Lord

message: "However, when Jack the monkey was left alone in the treasure cave with Barbossa's body, he took a coin from the chest." Who ever said Jack themonkey even lived? I always thought that when The curse was lifted, Jack would have drowned. But I could be wrong. 24.63.167.114 20:58, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: At the end of the movie (both in the cinema and on the DVD), after the credits, there was an easter egg scene, depicting Jack the Monkey safely swimming out of the water and taking an Aztec coin from the chest, thus becoming cursed once more.  Myrana13 21:43, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah, but they got it wrong.  An Easter Egg, as was said about a year ago, is something that must be found, not waited for.  The monkey's scene is simply a post-credits scene.  And don't forget to sign your posts.  Dac 10:38, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The monkey

message: Is it ever stated in the movies that Barbossa's first name is Hector? I thought it was never mentioned. --Suspchaos 11:40, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not in the movie, it came off one of the commentaries or something Dac 15:30, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

text: When did he say it?  Which scene? Dac 09:02, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just visited the website for At World's End. In there is a poster describing Captain Barbossa "Hector Barbossa: Wanted for"...etc. But no, it's not stated anywhere in the film, perhaps in the commentary.Doncroft 14:48, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: First name

message: "The details of how he has returned after his death will be explained in the third film."
Might I suggest that hell itself spat him back out? --NoEvidenZ 12:13, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Details

message: At World's End: It says that Johnny Depp stated that Barbossa would give his life for Jack at the end. Do we have any proof of this? Interview or tv special? I'm deleting it otherwise.
Miriahofthewind 06:12, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't say I've seen the interview, so yeah, best leave that one.  Dac 09:42, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

text: This isn't a discussion board for the film.  Dac 21:41, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot Spoilers?

message: I understand that citing sources is important here on Wikipedia, but still, what here is not cited?  What needs to be cited?
--KnowledgeLord 07:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I can tell, everything that needs to be already has been.  Dac 09:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Doesn't cite sources

message: The article says that the name "Barbossa" is based on Barbarossa's name, merged with the Spanish surname "Barbosa". Is there an official statement for this? I'm Italian, and to me, the pun is made by merging the name Barbarossa (which is itself Italian) with the Italian word "ossa", which means "bones". Since Barbossa is a pirate who turns into a skeleton, that fits his character just right.
Devil Master 12:31, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm still yet to find where they said that about him, so at the moment I'm leaning towards taking that out.  For now we can leave it in, but if we can't find where they said that it'll have to go completely.
"Barbosa" is a portuguese surname. It's actually my mother's maiden name (I'm brazilian, but my grandmother is from Azores). I'm pretty sure "Barbossa" is a pun on the portuguese name and "Barba Rossa" like the page indicates. For a portuguese speaker the connection to both is obvious.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.80.62.37 (talk) 05:37, 23 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Last name pun

message: I think we should add a section mentioning how many fans of Curse of the Black Pearl were displeased that Barbossa, who was clearly killed at the end of the first film and destroyed as a character, makes this miraculous appearance at the end of the second. Also, literary critics such as myself have noted that resurrecting the villain of the first book/movie at the end of the second one is a huge no-no. If an author is to resurrect the villain of the first piece, then they must do so at the beginning or at latest middle of the second piece, the prime example being Agent Smith reappearing at the beginning of Reloaded. Many fans feel that bringing Barbossa back and having him take a bite of that apple destroys the power of his death in the first movie. As the article notes, Barbossa was nominated for best villain. Well the second film destroys his role as a villain, so says some. I think an issue of this significance to fans and literary critics should be brought to attention in the article.--Doncroft 14:10, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fancruft itself is a big "absolutely not" by itself.  If links are provided to legitimate articles showing professional displeasure over his return, then very well; otherwise, if we post any fancruft, there's precedent for EVERY fancruft out there.  Suddenly the page gets swamped by people saying random stuff.  If you can provide links, be my guest; otherwise, it's probabl not a good idea. Dac 22:20, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand your concerns. But if any of us do run across an official article or something of the like, I think it should be acknowledged at least briefly.Doncroft 14:52, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy over death and "resurrection" 

message: That note that was added about the pirates not being able to sleep - where was that stated?  I don't recall that at all; doesn't seem implausible but nonetheless, unless it was stated outright it'll have to go.  Where'd you find it? Dac 22:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted it anyway, I was thinking the same thing, it wasn't stated, nor had Barbossa said himself about it, only about the wind, women's pleasure, food and drink, nothing about sleeping. Captain Drake Van Hellsing 22:34, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My apologies. It is not stated directly in the film; it is merely implied. I'm absolutely sure that that is the case; however I cannot source it...I remember hearing it. Dang, I wish I could remember where. It takes into account that Barbossa and his men are undead, and the undead do not sleep. The pirates are cursed for eternity, and if you are in eternal torment, you do not sleep nor have any other physical pleasures. The strongest piece of evidence, the one I saw stated but cannot remember where, is the Moonlight Serenade. The source or whatever it was (my apologies) pointed out that the entire crew is up working constantly day and night. They never rest, nor can they. For they don't have anything to rest. They don't have real physical bodies but are mere animated corpses with their souls trapped inside. Therefore, they cannot eat, drink, mate, feel, or sleep. Again, I hope someone can find a substantiated notation so this can be included, as it is of significance and shouldn't be excluded.--Doncroft 14:58, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sleep deprived?

message: I would suggest that someone would put, in the "Video Game Appearances" section what Barbossa's role in the Pirates of the Carribean Curse of the Black Peril video game, and his role in the World's End video game. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.244.42.164 (talk) 15:45, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video Games 

message: You might want to include WHY Barbossa and his crew on "his" ship, The Black Pearl, would want to lift the curse. Isn't immortality something Pirates would want? Do include that they can't feel or taste-they have been dying of thirst and want to drink and etc. etc....Gargoyle123 01:33, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Was that not already stated in the article?  I thought it was... Dac 03:28, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Curse

message: Perhaps someone should edit the "At World's End" section.  It does explain what Barbossa did in the movie, but it also includes other stuff and reads more like a plot summary.69.243.150.229
:Go ahead and do it. Be bold. Zain Ebrahim 14:16, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article talks about the movie more than the character in some places?

message: Perhaps in the list of Barbossa's jewelry, there should be some mention of his necklace. The snake pendant he wears may have some meaning. It's at least worth noting, as there are reproductions being made and sold (an example here: http://www.strongblade.com/prod/sbmr-barbossapendant.html ) 76.178.171.41 23:30, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Barbossa's Necklace

message: How do we know that Barbossa was Jack's first mate? They never mention it explicitly. It may well be that Barbossa took over the pearl after the mutiny.Zain Ebrahim 11:15, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: O ok. How did I forget that? Thanks. Zain Ebrahim 09:14, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Mate? 

message: Barbossa's first name is not mentioned in any of the movies.  In the 3rd movie when all the Pirate Lords are voting on who they want to be king, they all say their title and name or full name.  When Barbossa votes for himself, he just says Barbossa.
:Well, sorry, but Jack says, "Hector!" to Barbossa, and it even says his first name in the essential guide mentioned in the second-to-last paragraph.And please sign your posts.BlackPearl14 15:55, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  His First Name 

message: Am I the only one who thought of the barrel of apples in Treasure Island? IIRc, it was brought on board on Long John Silver initiative -- himself a pirate. --MushroomCloud 14:59, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Though this is old...This is relevant...how? BlackPearl14Pirate Lord-ess 01:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The influence of popular pirate lore on his character. Sounds important enough for me. --MushroomCloud (talk) 02:35, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I never said it was unimportant, I just said it wasn't quite as relevant as other things, but maybe we could put it under a section called "Tie-Ins" or something. BlackPearl14Pirate Lord-ess 03:26, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apples and Treasure Island 

message: Under the Dead Man's Chest heading, I added that an easter egg of Barbossa can be seen in Tia Dalma's hut when Jack the monkey is standing over the boot on the floor. I heard of this from the commentary on the second DVD. anyone back me up on this? Sadams15 02:11, 28 December 2007
:Why the hell is this needed? BlackPearl14Pirate Lord-ess 03:14, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Easter egg? 

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message: The name "Barbosa" (different spelling, I know) was, apparently, the name of a serial killer. :) Any connection? I'll look into it...Twitterpated. (talk) 02:43, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Off topic. BlackPearl14Pirate Lord-ess 03:12, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's in a name? 

message: "Could" "perhaps" "it may" are all wild, unsupported speculation on symbolism for apples.  No references provided. Waerloeg (talk) 00:30, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Remove it, then. BlackPearl14Pirate Lord-ess of the Caribbean 02:34, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apples original research 

message: In Italian, Barbossa doesn't mean anything: it's just the crasis of barba (beard) and ossa (bones). Beard of bones should be barbadossa (barba d'ossa). Saying that "the word barbossa in Italian language means “beard of bones,”" is incorrect, because is not an actual word. --Exephyo (talk) 21:45, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I corrected those mistakes. It just seems that people don't pay attention to complaints written in talk pages. Texcarson (talk) 20:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It just seems that some users prefer to assume things. Thanks for correcting. No thanks for the unnecessary and rude comment. Some kindness, please! BlackPearl14[talkies!•contribs!] 02:21, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barbossa 

message: Why is this wholly fictional character included in the list of B-class paranormal articles?  Can someone who knows Wikipedia policy better confirm this is a mistake and remove it?  
DustFormsWords (talk) 23:54, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  B-class paranormal? 

message: I just felt a need to point out, the article seems to indicate that the pirate Barbarossa's name was in fact the connection of the two words barba and ossa. in fact, it is Barba and Rossa in his case (beard) (red) Also, in response to texcarson, the "d" would no more be necessary for barbossa than it was for barbarossa. the reason being, one, syntax, and two, it isn't beard of red, or beard of bones, it is red beard and bone beard, odd though it may sound. thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.91.212.194 (talk) 13:21, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Names

message: Who is the owner of the Pearl during the film At World's End?
Though it originaly belongs to Jack, Barbossa mutinied, so does that make it his?
Will and Elizabeth agree that it belongs to Barbossa, as they ask him to marry them on the Pearl, but they could just be agreeing for the moment untill they are married. 
So, who is the actual owner of the Peal at that time?
Lord loss210  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.101.255.250 (talk) 14:19, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Owner of the Pearl? 

message: If so, I want to add him to List of ghosts. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:28, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No, he isn't. He was undead for ten years, true, but he was not a ghost.--Max Tomos (talk) 12:01, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is he a ghost? 

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