Talk:Reynoutria japonica

message: The following is just rough background knowledge, not substantiated: it was brought into the UK around the Victorian era as a decorative plant in gardens. It's spread quickly to most parts of the country, grows on railway embankments, roadsides, motorway verges. In the UK climate at least it's very vigorous, and regarded in the UK as a pest; apparently it's one of only 2 plants whose propagation is forbidden by law. -- Tarquin
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I've removed:
:in the mid-1800's, and to the U.S. in the late 1800's.
because such precision makes me wonder if the writer means the 19th century or the decade of the 1800s. -- Tarquin 09:46 Jan 6, 2003 (UTC)
That quote clearly looks to be about a century period, not a decade. 69.87.203.190 20:29, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: The species is a frequent invader in Europe and the U.K. 
Is the British island forms part to the American continent? Plate tectonics? ;) Pixeltoo 15:14, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: So British 

message: What is the best way to raise shoots indoors for consumption year-round? 69.87.200.9 20:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: grow on windowsill

message: Back in 2003 when I edited this page I added a link to a website that I had created (http://www.knottybits.com/knotweed) . This appears to be in conflict with Wikipedia's current editing policy so I just want to put it out there in case someone wants to review the external links and decide whether my website should be deleted.
Urtica 05:24, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't worry about it.  The site seems informative and not WP:SPAM.  My experience with WP:LINKS is that people periodically go around and trim out external links, and that might happen to this one (the criteria have a moderate degree of subjectivity, and external links are expected to come and go).  But I don't think it should be a factor (in this case) that it was added by you instead of someone else. Kingdon 12:14, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Question about link provided

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thread_title: [[WP:FOOD|WikiProject Food and drink]] Tagging

message: References 8,9 and 11 appear to be links to sellers of this product.Ykral (talk) 11:08, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Commercial links

message: Three more commercial links removed. Tompow (talk) 12:15, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Commercial links2

message: The figure of £1.6 billion annually has been added, citing the Daily Mail.  This size of this figure is not credible.  This is more than the annual budget Environment Agency . --FDent (talk) 16:45, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cost of control in UK 

message: Is there any confusion in the name? Fallopia convolvulus (L.) A.Love (Polygonum convolvulus L.) seems to be confused here. Is F.japonica a different species? Osborne 20:58, 21 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That appears to have been vandalism that is now corrected.  Deli nk (talk) 17:14, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Correct Name

message: Hello all,
The following fact is missing a citation / reference:
"The leaves are broad oval with a truncated base, 7–14 cm long and 5–12 cm broad"
I suggested this reference:  https://www.japaneseknotweed.co.uk/japanese-knotweed-identification
There was a COI there so one of the editors kindly gave me a few Wiki etiquette pointers.  Anyhoo, my question is this; Japanese Knotweed Lts are genuinely experts in their field, so does this warrant being a reference or does the fact that the website is commercial mean that it's not appropriate?
Next question, where would I find a more suitable reference if this one is deemed inappropriate?
Thanks, team!
PaddyPassionDigital (talk) 15:54, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Well done PaddyPassionDigital for playing by the rules - it's appreciated. In a case like this where this information is widely available, why not refer to one of the existing references on the page, or just go to a non-commercial source to find the reference you need? There are plenty of places with no commercial interest where such a description can be found, here's one for a start: http://www.rhs.org.uk/advice/profile?PID=218  Naturenet | Talk 21:51, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Citation 

message: This species is widely known as Polygonum cuspidatum (and that name redirects to this page), but it appears nowhere in the article and there is no discussion of the taxonomy or alternative names in the article. 160.111.254.17 (talk) 20:12, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Polygonum cuspidatum is a synonym of Reynoutria japonica the currently accepted name of the species, of which Fallopia japonica is also a synonym. A list of some other synonyms is given in the taxobox. You can find more information on The Plant List at http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2428745 Plantsurfer 21:18, 5 July 2016 (UTC)

text: I grant you that it is not over until the fat lady sings, but we need to stop somewhere, and TPL seems to be a reliable source. I think we should be reflecting the views of some stable, reliable source, even if it errs on the conservative side, rather than attempting to follow the swings and roundabouts of current research. Plantsurfer 16:37, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with erring on the conservative side, but in this case it's not so clear what that is, since it was moved from Fallopia to Reynoutria and it's this move that some are resisting. However, I do agree that in cases of doubt we should follow TPL, which would suggest that the article should be moved to Reynoutria japonica. Peter coxhead (talk) 16:47, 23 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I know some people are reluctant to see the name change, but TPL is our reliable source, and the taxonomy has been changed for a while now. This article needs moving to Reynoutria japonica, and the other articles also adjusted according to TPL's taxonomy. Invertzoo (talk) 01:39, 21 July 2017 (UTC)

text: Do we hava a reasonable consensus on the proposed move? It sounds like perhaps we do? But I will not act on this until a few days have gone past. I lhae also left a note on the Plant Project talk page about this suggested move. Invertzoo (talk) 09:56, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm now less convinced that the TPL approach should be followed, but I'd like time to review the literature a bit more before expressing my view. Peter coxhead (talk) 08:31, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, please do check the sources -- apparently TPL has recently been updated and no longer uses pre-2013 sources. Thanks. Invertzoo (talk) 11:02, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? The website still says 2013. Is there a new one? Peter coxhead (talk) 19:10, 22 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Let me check with my expert and see what says about this. Invertzoo (talk) 12:17, 23 July 2017 (UTC)

text: I should be able to get back to you within a couple of days. Invertzoo (talk) 01:50, 24 July 2017 (UTC)

text: Um, but TPL has not been updated, and the source, WCSP (in review), isn't available. So we're no further forward, I think. Peter coxhead (talk) 17:17, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taxonomy & name 

message: TPL does have it listed as  Reynoutria japonica:
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2428745
Invertzoo (talk) 16:43, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, but TPL has not been updated, and the source, WCSP (in review), isn't available. So we're no further forward, I think. Peter coxhead (talk) 17:17, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Back again

message: There are reports that the hollow stem is sometimes "water-filled", at least the lower above-ground part. If this is true, it seems worth mentioning in the article.-71.174.180.38 (talk) 22:31, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm. What reports would these be? The criterion for inclusion in Wikipedia is that the statement is supported by a reliable source. Plantsurfer 22:42, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  hollow stems, water-filled 

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message: BBC Spicemix (talk) 16:31, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  source 

message: Rarest? Student Naylor (talk) 07:33, 29 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rarest? 

message: cardboard fulfills a similar role as concrete slabs for mechanical removal — used over time it also has the advantage of being biodegradable. Ycleptkyara (talk) 00:40, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  cardboard 

message: 39 reference link sends to main page of website due to broken url 86.1.166.165 (talk) 23:16, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken ref 

message: The story of its introduction by Thomas Hogg should be added to this article.  It's an important detail, a cautionary tale for our globalized world.  Sorry, I don't have the time to do it. 2A01:CB14:2D:9600:2D7E:9E3D:18DF:E09D (talk) 08:38, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thomas Hogg