Talk:Naturalism (literature)

message: "Naturalism was criticized in the twentieth century by a whole host of Sauve Chronics
What does this mean?
--Krbrowning (talk) 05:28, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticisms

message: :'Naturalistic writers were influenced by the evolution theory of Charles Darwin.'
This might be true, but this sort of claim needs to be sourced from either naturalistic writers saying so, or at least critics that support this theory. Sfnhltb 18:50, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Added Williams citation, which covers it. Moved that section to top, as it applies equally to the other media. DionysosProteus 03:54, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Darwin's Influence 

message: Considering what a large field naturalism is, this article could be considered a stub. Should I add the stub template?
Yes.
--Bringa 18:12, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stub? 

message: The entire In the USA section is very similar to a copyrighted article in the Literary Encyclopedia. Note the abrupt end in the middle of a word.
64.83.234.164 17:28, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright Violation? 

message: "As in film, naturalism is the general style".
Surely this article is coming at naturalism from the wrong angle, by explaining naturalist literature through naturalist film?
Naturalist literature devloped before films was even invented.  Whether there's a coherent and clear link between the two media I don't know enough to say, but Zola is generally recognised as the father of naturalism in the mid 19th century, the 1860s or thereabouts.  The article also focuses heavily on theatre and film but gives little coherant info on literature, the area which saw naturalism's initial developments.
Naturalism is NOT the general literary style: that would mean that in general most literature takes the approach that fate/behaviour/character is genetically or 'scientifically' pre-ordained, which I don't believe to be the case. --Chochotte 09:47, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not enough focus on literature? 

message: "...opposed to such movements as Romanticism or Surrealism, in which subjects may receive highly symbolic, idealistic, or even supernatural treatment"
"...opposed to romanticism, in which subjects may receive highly symbolic, idealistic, or even supernatural treatment."
These two lines in the beginning of the article are almost identical. Is the second one really necessary? 81.226.252.221 (talk) 14:53, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Similar lines 

message: "Most naturalists demonstrated a concern with the animal or the irrational motivations for human behavior, sometimes manifested in connection with sexuality and violence. Here they differed strikingly from their French counterparts."
Since most of the article is unreferenced, it seems pointless to call for a cite on this final sentence, and its not entirely clear which properties of French naturalism it refers to.  But French naturalism (especially Zola) is full of sex and violence as well as the irrationalism of people driven by instinct, hereditary madness, and everything but human reason. --Maltelauridsbrigge (talk) 18:19, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: and French naturalism

message: The article is mainly focused on American naturalism, and forgets completely about for example, English writers such as Thomas Hardy and Spanish ones such as Vicente Blasco Ibáñez or Emilia Pardo Bazán. The article called Naturalism (theatre)is much better focused and the one corresponding to literature in general should follow that neutral tone. American naturalism, especially what corresponds to 20th century literature should probably have its own, separate article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mauronicolini (talk • contribs) 22:41, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biased 

message: I wonder if the word psychology in a book talking and deffining what naturalism is.
Maybe the 'psychology' can be added to the list mentioned above.--Der under Smurf (talk) 22:37, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sould 'psychology' be added amoung this list 'determinism, detachment, scientific objectivism, and social commentary.'?