Talk:Kim Sun-il

message: Can we agree to a "Truce" so that comments can be solicited?
Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution#Further_dispute_resolution
--Lukobe 17:23, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Truce/RFC

message: I believe the "He's dead" ending of the article is unnecessary and a little melodramatic.  Please edit this.
:Someone's taken care of it. But of course you have the power to do things like this yourself! --Lukobe 22:37, 22 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Not of the actual beheading. I posted a link to the video played on Al Jazeera. The audio is of an English-speaking newscaster. --Lukobe 18:17, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

text: The video of beheading is not circulated in South Korea from "ethical reasons".  I'm not sure why but it might be better if someone with a deep understanding of the Korean culture to voice his or her opinion. Revth 00:28, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)

text: You're absolutely right--it makes no difference what kind of people we, or they, are--this was a terrible tragedy. I didn't bring up the ethnicity issue. --Lukobe 23:39, 23 Jun 2004 (UTC)

text: I think nationality, but not ethnicity matters in this tragedy.  It's likely that he was killed for being involved in supporting US troops.  Some of groups inside and around Iraq seemed to be shooting everything foreign but it's clear that his fate had been decided after a deep thinking.  He spent more than 3 weeks in the captivity and there is an unconfirmed report that he may have been passed on from a less aggressive group to the last group. Revth 00:28, 25 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Misc comments

message: Koreans broadcasted the earlier beheading of a U.S. civilian Nicholas Berg on a major TV channel. They started censoring because now one of their own got victimized.
http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200405/200405130057.html
Under the title, Horrifying Decapitation Scene, MBC's News Desk reported the incident from the very beginning. The tape contained a U.S. civilian named Nicholas Berg, tied with a rope, sitting in front of five men wearing headscarves. The men then read aloud what seemingly sounded like a statement of reason for the execution. Berg was then slain to death immediately afterwards. MBC's News Desk failed to omit graphic details of this execution and one of the five men holding Berg's cut-off head filled the TV screen. KBS's News 9 and SBS's 8 News did not broadcast the latter part of the execution and covered the knife from being seen on screen.
: Looks like the above unsigned comment was posted by 203.162.17.78. 
Anyway, yes, this is hypocrisy. But what does this have to do with the discussion of this article? --Lukobe 16:29, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Korean Hypocrisy

message: OK, now I see someone else has added the links back, and they've been removed again. I think this makes three cycles, i.e., the beginning of an edit war. And I don't think there are enough comments on this page yet. I am thinking of posting this page to "Request for comments" to get the opinion of other Wikipedians. Otherwise I don't see an end to it.
BTW, Chajath, in reference to your last point, Wikipedia is not a form of mass media, in my opinion. It is an encyclopedia, a reference source. Hence, in my view, informational liberalism wins out. There is no point in having an encyclopedia without informational liberalism, actually.
--Lukobe 17:18, 24 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit war

message: I understand why someone might object to having links to the photos here - one might question why anyone would want to access them. At the same time, having inactive links on the page seems pointless. Either make them live or get rid of them. This makes Wikipedia less consistent and makes the page look amateurish and unprofessional. --Ce garcon 07:35, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: This issue has been discussed over and over on the Nick Berg and Abu Ghraib Prison articles; the hard-reached community consensus was to keep the links because they have some information value but to make them non-clickable so that nobody can accidentally view a potentially disturbing image. This is how these disturbing images have been handled on pretty much every related article - I don't think there is a  need to start the whole discussion again. -- Ferkelparade π 09:32, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)

text: It was after the threat to kidnap and behead a UK serving soldier was foiled by the UK authorities a year or so ago that i did an internet search to try and understand why they hate us so much. I came across many things about Islam that shocked me, the Kim Sun-il video was one of them. Kim's plea for life and the fact his captors showed no compassion at all, shocked and scarred me. Kim will be prayed for and remembered because of this callous video post and his captors hated and despised. A link like this must never be banned but at the same time should never be stumbled across.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.202.144.219 (talk) 21:09, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Make links to Kim Sun-il photos live or delete them

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