Talk:Abdullah Quilliam

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Source: Jewish Historical Society of England, Newsletter no. 16, July 2007.
Article by Arnold Lewis, Liverpool Jewish Community Archivist.
Title 'Liverpool's Muslim Zionist'.
He spoke at many Zionist meetings including;
Liverpool Zionist Central Council, Sept 1902, at Hope Hall, Liverpool
'Enthusiastically seconded' formal resolution for a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
Wrote to 'Jewish Chronicle' saying that he favoured Jewish suzerianty in Palestine under the Sultan.
Also that year he spoke at,
Jewish Working Mens Club, Sheffield
Zionist League, London
Dorshoi Zion Association, Cardiff,
DZ, Glasgow.
Also, 
Manchester Zionist Association, Dec 1906, WQ an honoured guest
- quotes -
'Jews must perservere, be courageous, be brave and pray for help till the great objects of Jewish colonisation are achieved', 'Jews are in the Sultans favour, who wishes to see them rehabilitated'.
Manchester Zionist Council, 1907, spoke alongside Chaim Weizmann.
1908, he left for Turkey. 'A passionate advocate of Zionism'.
End.
Unbiased opionion!
Certain parts of this article seem far from being unbiased. Expressions like His beautiful mosque on Brougham Terrace or His legacy lives on amidst the hearts of the new generation of Western Muslims or Quilliam had the courage and the audacity to openly criticise the imperialist policies of the Government and denounced the colonisation and suppression of foreign territories definitely do not adhere to the general code of neutral opinion, which shall be a foundation of Wikipedia. I can't argue with your facts, thus I don't wan to edit your article now. However I can understand the difference between writing a generally positive obituary and a encyclopedian article intented to stay for years and being available to general public as a source of neutral-opinion facts. Your article is definitely more of the obituary kind. Review it, please.  Oneliner Referred to original, Xaxerian's version. This one's fine. Thanks. Oneliner 21:07, 29 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening heading

message: I merged from the W. H. Quillam article, but that leaves us with two different dates and places from Quilliam's conversion. We need to run this down and provide a citation (or competing citations if it really is a disputed fact.)Lisamh 01:51, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: conversion

message: The MCB article says that he was born ni 1851 but both the independent article and the Quilliam society give it as 1856, in fact, the society give the day and month. Robert C Prenic 09:24, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Date of Birth

message: Take a look at the entry on John Quilliam: -
It is claimed that William Abdullah Quilliam, the founder of England's first mosque was a descendant of Captain Quilliam. However, Mrs M A Watterson (nee Annie Quirk) in her book People and Places published in 1956 - noted that "John Quilliam's family farmed at Arbory" and that; "Captain Quilliam had no children, but they reared a niece."
Ned de Rotelande 09:51, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Descendant" of childless John Quilliam

message: I removed the reference. Please believe I would be delighted to see evidence, however it appears that John Quilliam RN died childless. Mcewan (talk) 22:10, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Quilliam 

message: What about Shah Jahan Mosque in Woking, Surrey - also 1889. Vernon White . . . Talk  19:40, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  First UK Mosque? 

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Western Muslims, particularly converts to Islam, see Quilliam  as a pioneer of the path they have taken. 
Two problems: 
* No source. 
* It seems unlikely that every Western Muslim holds the same view on this. 
A more carefully qualified and sourced statement could be added back. --Chriswaterguy talk 04:44, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  How Western Muslims see Quilliam 

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