Talk:List of University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign people

message: I created a category :Category:University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign alumni and gave John Bambenek the honor of being the first person in the category (adding it to the 8 he was already listed in).  Every person on this list should also be added to the category.
As for the list, I agree that we should discuss some guidelines for inclusion.  I have to leave for work now but if no one else kicks off the discussion, I'll try something tonight. -- DS1953 talk 14:47, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Category versus list

message: someone should add something about the youtube founders. it looks like two of the three went to UIUC.
see YouTube and article on cs.uiuc.edu
Kaiken 17:18, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  youtube? 

message: Does Nancy Brinker belong in business?  She seems more like an activist.  Plus, her role as an ambassador probably qualifies her as a diplomat.H.al-shawaf 21:30, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved Brinker over ten years later. H.al-shawaf (talk) 16:52, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brinker 

message: Perhaps a category should be included for those who attended the school but did not graduate? Right now, it is simply divided into faculty and alumni, which leaves out those who didn't get their degree but could still be considered "University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign people."--Gloriamarie 20:01, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, go for it.H.al-shawaf (talk) 16:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Those who attended, but didn't graduate

message: While I agree that a great many of the redlinked people should be removed, the ones with sources should stay. It's not necessarily the case that every person with a redlink isn't notable - it could just be that no one has gotten around to writing an article about that person yet. I don't really see the harm in doing the following:
*Stephen Carley, A.B. circa 1973 -  CEO of El Pollo Loco, former president and chief operating officer of Universal City Hollywood
The difference here is that I removed the brackets from around the name. There's a reference there that clearly points out that he's an alumnus, so I think he should be included - but not linked. Is this a good solution? — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 21:58, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, just wanted to point something out. WP:REDLINK is the Wiki policy on redlinks, and it says that "it is useful to create a red link to indicate that an article will be created soon or that an article should be created for the topic because it is about a notable and verifiable subject." I'm of the opinion that the people who are truly notable - that is, can be backed up with references - should be kept on the list as redlinks. But if the redlinks are really that offensive, then they can be removed as per my advice above. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 22:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Not trying to be a dick, but I think that's pretty much what I was doing.  The redlinks I didn't remove were ones that had a cite. Thanks for the outside opinion... Justinm1978 (talk) 22:03, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the providing wikipedia policy on this issue.  We should use caution with red links moving forward.  However, an outright ban on red links is not required.  Can you also shed light on citation needed versus immediate delete?  Justinm has cited some policy that indicates immediate delete.  I have cited some policy for leaving the citation needed tag for a reasonable amount of time.H.al-shawaf (talk) 22:08, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's more of a question of personal preference. In normal articles, I'll tag a sentence with the fact tag if I think that there's a chance that it can be proven, and I'll give other editors the chance to add a source. For an article like this, I think I would err on the side of caution by first tagging them with fact, waiting a few days, and then removing them. I'd save outright deletion for vandalism and the like. Alternatively, you could create a list here on the talk page of people who have been removed and say, "When you can find a source that links this person to the school, add them and the source back into the list." It really depends on what you guys want to do. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 22:12, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Third opinion

message: The above discussion prompts me to ask that we put some standards on what we define as notable, lest another issue such as the John Bambenek thread of above happen.  I propose the following standards for defining who goes in this list (both must be met):
*Notability is established by community consensus if a wikiarticle already exists for the person.
*Verifibility of UIUC alumni status from either UIUC or a reliable source.
If a wikiarticle does not exist, one should be created, even if it is a stub with very basic information.
I'm aware that other lists don't follow this, but that's not a valid argument against establishing standards.  I'd like to see this get to FL status at some point, and putting stuff that fails the above two tests won't get it there, and starts to cross into the realm of wikipedia not being a directory. Justinm1978 (talk) 21:40, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: On the note of standards, let's keep a section in this talk page for people that need verification before they are included in the actual article.  I need your help transfering the names you previously deleted to the talk page.  Editors can team up and find verifiable sources to reinclude them within the article.  Does that sound fair?  It sounds like a good compromise to me.H.al-shawaf (talk) 22:17, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, that's pretty much an ideal use of talk pages.  I'm in agreement to do it that way.  We could probably archive all of the other talk stuff here that is a bit old and go from there. Justinm1978 (talk) 22:46, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm glad we came to an agreement.  I look forward to working with you on this page.  I am an accountant and this is busy season, so I hope you appreciate my efforts.  I'm already putting in 60+ hour weeks at work.  How do we archive talk content?H.al-shawaf (talk) 23:43, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standards 

message: After some debate, unsourced UIUC people were moved here.  An editor can move the people back to the main page if the editor includes a valid citation.H.al-shawaf (talk) 23:52, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced UIUC people 

message: *John E. Bourgoin, B.S. 1968 - Chairman, president, and CEO of MIPS Technologies
*Jon Burgstone, B.S. 1995 -- Faculty Chair, Center for Entrepreneurship & Technology, UC Berkeley, CEO of SupplierMarket (acquired for $1.1B), winner of Illini Comeback Award and M&IE Distinguished Alumni Award.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by H.al-shawaf (talk • contribs) 04:58, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Engineering 

message: I found a ref for Vivian Zapata and moved her name back to the article page. BlackcurrantTea (talk) 09:02, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Art 

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