Talk:Breeder (slang)

message: Normophillic? Okay, please don't add that word again. A lack of fetishes doesn't define "breeder" or really any term. Lotusduck 21:59, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Would the Dictionary of English Slang and the American Heritage Dictionary qualify as reliable sources? Both of them have entries on the word. 
I am also searching for an article about the origin of the word. LeaHazel : talk : contribs 11:07, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reliable sources  

message: Other slang terms that revolve around "breeder" are "egg hatcher", in which a woman is concerned about her biological clock and believes she may no longer be able to or never get pregnant.  Slang terms affiliated to men are "bloodline survivalists"; men whose desire to marry or who see their marriage largely to father a son in order to continue their family bloodlines.  "Bloodline survivalism" has been a common theme in only sons, kings, czars, and those who must pass something of value by dynastic succession only.  Arguably the most famous example was King Henry VIII of England, who is largely remembered for marrying multiple times for the purpose of siring a male heir to the throne. 
As these were fact tagged for 9 months (time enough to breed an ego-extension!) i moved them here until sources are found.Yobmod (talk) 13:09, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Uncited terms

message: Despite what the first line of the article says, the term "breeder" is used as a general slang term for heterosexuals, regardless of their history or potential in terms of actually having offspring.  I know this from experience (hey, it's my slang!), but in the interest of avoiding "original research", I'm trying to find a couple of citations from the internets.
"In general, straight people are commonly called breeders, on account of them spawning little Damien Omen children." -- http://www.rainbowzine.com/component/content/article/1164-a-lexicon-of-lgbt-slang
"A derogatory term for a heterosexual person, especially for who glorifies childbearing." -- http://andrejkoymasky.com/lou/dic/b.html
The Urban Dictionary, which I recognize is not frequently a reliable source for much of anything, does cite the term (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Breeder&defid=126718) as a term for heterosexuals regardless of whether they've bred.  Among the many offered definitions: "A heterosexual person. One who breeds with members of the opposite sex.", "slang word for a straight person", "derogatory term to describe heterosexuals, usually when engaged in an extended relationship (eg. marriage) with a partner of the opposite sex.", "Breeder is a slang term (either joking or derogatory) used to describe heterosexuals, primarily by homosexuals.", "a straight person. a heterosexual.", "A heterosexual.", "A heterosexual person. Formerly, this was an insult used by the gay community; it is now mostly used by straight people in a lighthearted vein to (mistakenly) show that they are down with gays and familiar with the culture.", "A derogatory term for a heterosexual. Generally used by homosexuals."
There are myriad other references on the internets referring to "breeder" as meaning "a heterosexual" without reference to whether of not they have bred, will breed, love to breed, breed a lot, think highly of breeding, consider breeding a central part of their existence, etc, etc, etc.  
I'm going to make the change in the definition to reflect this.
76.208.69.72 (talk) 22:59, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "breeders" don't necessarily breed 

message: Isn't the term also used in homosexual slang as a way to describe a sexual act? --75.3.158.175 (talk) 16:03, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The act is referred to from the disambiguation page for "Breeding". The only relationship between breeding in gay sex and "breeder" used as a slang is that they both have something to do with homosexuality--I don't think it's really necessary to make a link between the two. I'd figure people looking up the act would look for "breeding" first. --129.237.14.136 (talk) 10:25, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the Sexual Context?

message: In Inner-City Sydney, among alternative communities, the term 'breeder' is routinely used to describe parents who impose their children onto non-child friendly spaces, such as art galleries or small cafés. On a Saturday morning, parents who manoeuvre a huge pram, full of screaming children into a cramped café are likely to be met with the cry "fuck off breeders!" The term is used by both gay and straight people.
-- I agree with the above comment. As a heterosexual male, I dispute that the term "breeder" is even derogatory.  Animals breed.  Humans are animals, hence humans can be and are breeders. Perhaps suggesting that "breeder" is a derogatory term that is used as a descriptive primarily said by the LGBT demographic is no longer true, as heterosexuals say "breeder" too.  I'm seeing an increasing number of heterosexuals commenting on parents with many kids as being 'breeders'... In any event, to say "breeders" is a derogatory term I believe is biased and not neutral.  Breeder is descriptive for animals that breed, which includes humans....  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.247.238.113 (talk) 11:18, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Use of 'Breeder' Among Non-Gay Alternative Groups. 

message: This term is also used in an episode of Stargate: SG-1, by a culture of (presumably) humans descended from  ancient earthlings who, on their home planet, (this is a spoiler, so if you like the series and have not seen Episode 2 of Season 4, stop reading NOW), are at war with others on the surface who they refer to disparagingly as "breeders".  Apparently, the people who SG-1 encounters replicate themselves through cloning as all their "kin" in stasis fields have the same facial features.  There are implications linking this race (just by association) to the Nazi, via eugenics, and the KKK through race discrimination.
I think it's an appropriate addition to the page, but is such a short article the place for such a reference?  In a longer article, it would be under a heading like Pop Cultural References or something to that effect.  Any commentary or suggestions?
Xshens (talk) 15:15, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Stargate: SG-1 

message: There are many books that talk about how the term breeder refers to a welfare mother having children to get more money.  We have an article for welfare queen already.  I don't know if any of them count as a reliable source or not.  I'm not finding any news articles.  Dream Focus 02:37, 19 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  welfare mother breeder slang 

message: There's a wiki article on cisgender. You can link it when you use the term for the first time. Good job on linking other important terms in the article. Mila ja mila (talk) 01:25, 18 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions for Improvement 

message: There was a statement in the article in the LGBT section that describe the use of the term with regard to lesbian parents who reproducer. The part about the term "breeder" also being used to used to describe lesbian parents that partake in reproduction is fine but the part formally at the end "an act that can be described as perpetuating homonormativity" is not NPOV since it does not state who feels this way but rather implies that such a view is the majority view, an incontestable fact, etc. The reality is that many lesbians and non-lesbians alike would disagree with the notion that it "perpetrates homonormativity", a concept not explained in the article nor likely commonly understand by most people including myself when I first read it ( i had to Google it). If we are going to include that argument then let's attribute it a specific person(s) or source in the article. Something like "...which so-so argues perpetrates homonormativity" or "which so-so argued in her book such-such perpetrates homonormativity". If anyone thinks it's important to include the bit about how it's said that it "perpetrates homonormativity" then include the name of the person(s) or source(s) who makes this argument specifically (i.e. Notable Author/book, notable  activist, etc) when adding it back. --Notcharliechaplin (talk) 23:12, 28 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV issues with the statement on lesbians parents as "breeeders" and homonormativity. 

message: I am almost certain that in 1975 or 1976 I heard "Breeder" (in San Francisco) as a mild/joking slur. 50.230.251.244 (talk) 07:13, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year when it Breeder was used as a heterophobic slur?