Talk:Hannibal Rising

message: Should we really have pages for novels that haven't yet been published?DS 13:55, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not? It is quite eagerly anticipated. --Oldak Quill 19:13, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Published?

message: why the delay? I thought it was set for an xmas 05 release? (131.130.121.106 22:42, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  delay? 

message: I recently added something in the Contradictions section that was removed. It stated how in Rising, Lecter was an Atheist, and in Hannibal, it stated how he had a "malice" or fierce hatred toward God. Here is the quote that from Hannibal supports my claim: (HANNIBAL pg 291):
"Since this partial answer to his prayer, Hannibal Lecter had not been bothered by any considerations of a deity, other then to recognize how his own modest predations paled beside those of God, who is in irony matchless, and in wanton malice beyond measure."
 This states that he feircely hates God (malice beyond measure), and in order to hate something, you have to believe in its existence. So he did believe in God as Stated in Hannibal, but it stated he was an Atheist in Rising. In Rising, after he buries Mischa, he says: "We take comfort in knowing that there is no God". This is a condradiction as far as I'm concerned... Interesting. --Majinvegeta 04:22, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You've misinterpreted the quote slightly. It doesn't say that Lecter feels "malice beyond measure" towards God; the "wanton malice" it refers to is God's own (in other words, nobody is more wantonly malicious than God, at least in Lecter's opinion). Fivepast 09:53, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I apologize for the misinterpretation, but that part and the bit before it still proves that he aknowledges God's existence. He aknowledges the fact that there is a deity with "wanton malice beyond measure". Other Evidence: "Other then to recognize how his own modest predations paled beside those of God". This says it all. He recognizes that his desires don't influence God's decision, and in order to know that that his desires don't influence God's decision, he has to aknowledge the existence of God. (Don't worry, I'm not a crazy Christian preacher or anything, I'm actually quite the opposite.) --Majinvegeta 17:45, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose it's easiest to assume that in the years between Hannibal Rising and Hannibal, Lecter changed his outlook on such things. Fivepast 20:05, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not really true that you have to believe in God to believe in "His own", because whether you believe in God or not, you cannot deny that people are alive that believe in Him, and it is more poetic to say "...those of God, who is in irony matchless, and in wanton malice beyond measure." than to say "I hate the people who believe in a God that doesn't exist, because I am an atheist." -- 151.203.22.196 18:01, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I always assumed that he was an atheist in Hannibal. If an atheist were to complain "Why would God let 9/11 happen" as many have done, that doesn't mean he's achknowledging that God exists. I just thought it meant that after his prayers to save Mischa went unanswered and she was instead murdered that destroyed his faith in God. It never struck me as a contradiction.--CyberGhostface 19:08, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure about anybody else, but "Hannibal had not been bothered by any considerations of a deity" would, in plain English, mean he did not ever even think of god, aside from how cruel he coudl be.  Leaves it sort of more "agnostic" then "atheistic".  He gave up on god, but maybe when he first did, it was a "There is no god."  Years later, learning more and more, he's accepted a "if there IS a god...  he's an evil and vicious bastard" take on things. 140.185.215.122 13:03, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hannibal's Faith in God

message: Should seperate pages be set up for major characters in this book, such as Inspector Popil or Vladis Grutas? 66.24.234.136 01:02, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major characters 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Hannibal Rising Cover.jpg

message: I haven't read Silence of the Lambs in a while, but I thought that the mask was first introduced in Silence of the Lambs, and that it was a newly discovered use for a modified hockey mask. Someone more familiar topic might want to look into this. dr.alf 12:39, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the mask in here is different. Its the lower half of a samurai mask. Obviously its supposed to remind you ofthe famous restraint mask from Silence, but its not the same one--CyberGhostface 13:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The mask

message: In 'Red Dragon', Hannibal has six fingers on his left hand. This appears to have been omitted in later works. Does anybody have views on this point?--86.44.145.34 (talk) 15:25, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's only omitted in Rising.--CyberGhostface (talk) 22:04, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Six fingers 

message: Since there is a film version and other books have (novels) Doremon764 (talk) 03:24, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renaming Page to Hannibal Rising (novel)