Talk:Hack-a-Shaq

message: somewhat lifted from my comments on another talk page
http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/intentionally-fouling-deandre-jordan-is-futile
Hack a Shaq strategies have been shown to be significantly less effective than previously thought.  50% FT shooting rate when teams routinely score more than 1 pt per possession on average seems to imply that a team should foul a poor FT shooter every time, even if the team is in the double bonus.  This is not the case however, as offensive rebounds, inability to get a fast break possession (which are  worth more on average than a half court possession) after made free throws and almost no chance of a turnover (which leads to more points on average than a typical fast break) if purposefully fouling lead to a much more nuanced situation.  For example, in cases where a team has very good rebounders and a very solid half court defense, a poor (60% or so) free throw shooter should not be fouled.  Even with a team that has a weaker half court defense, weak offensive rebounding and a very poor (50%) free throw shooter, the Hack a Shaq strategy is still only a very marginal improvement, much less so than conventional wisdom seems to imply.http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/intentionally-fouling-deandre-jordan-is-futile
Even if there is a case for using the Hack a Shaq strategy, a couple of points per 100 possessions is most often insignificant as this strategy is only ever employed at the very end of the game for only a handful of possessions, leading to a statistical gain of fractions of a point per game on average.  This is actually the strongest case for rewriting the NBA rules to discourage Hack a Shaq strategies.  Rarely does it make sense, it is often incorrectly used and even when it does make sense, it leads to almost no difference other than to annoy fans with the switch from basketball to a FT competition in the waning minutes of what could be a close, and exciting, competition.
Another interesting set of arguments that I cannot find a good citation for is that teams usually don't play really bad FT shooters unless they are really good at things that make the strategy less useful.  Shaq ironically fits the argument against Hack-a-Shaq strategies as he was a very good half court defender but an incredibly poor fast break defender and a very good rebounder.  Though the FT shooter's rebound ability most likely does not play as much a role.  Players do not rebound their own FT's as often.  Furthermore, if there is a weaker player that also is a weaker FT shooter, chances are he will not be in at the end of the game but the only time that this strategy truly makes sense is when all three are in effect.
155.101.8.198 (talk) 16:48, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Conventional Wisdom vs. Advanced Statistical Analysis

message: I've seen Haq-a-Shaq, although less frequently. savidan(talk) (e@) 03:47, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, if you try to go to Haq-a-Shaq, it re-directs appropriately.  I added re-directs for the various alternate spellings that I've seen.  Mwelch 22:59, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternate spelling 

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message: Is it just me, or would it be very simple for the NBA to completely stop this tactic? If, after a shooting foul, the ball was given in-bounds to the offended team, the reason for committing this foul would be completely eliminated -- the other team would never get the ball back. No matter how bad a player was at shooting free throws, no matter how good the other team was at rebounding, his team would always get the ball back after he shot. Or is the league trying to punish the very poor free throw shooters? Personally, the intentional foul seems really lame and slows the game down unforgivably -- it doesn't exist in any other sport I can think of, with the possible exception of the occasional delay of game (hoping to draw an offsides penalty against the other team) in football. One simple rule change would eliminate it entirely from the NBA game. Middlenamefrank (talk) 03:30, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  NBA response 

message: After reading the article I realized that there is no mention to how successful Shaq is in the lane, I always thought one of the main purposes of hack-a-shaq was that more likely for Shaq to get an easy basket when in the paint, as opposed to making two free throws,which is the main reason why it was used more against Shaq as opposed to Ben Wallace (a much less of an offensive threat) who is also mentioned in the aritlce  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.62.241.76 (talk) 01:24, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I always though so, too. Sagittarian Milky Way (talk) 23:57, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Advantages 

message: This tactic was used in Europe long before Don Nelson even thought about it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.190.51.208 (talk) 11:09, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Don Nelson didn't invent anything

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