Talk:Hurt (Nine Inch Nails song)

message: *I removed some questionable performances from the covers section.  David Bowie has never sung or recorded his own version of "Hurt," he only performed it live as a duet with Nine Inch Nails (source: Illustrated DB Discography) and this performance is already mentioned in the article.  Tori Amos' covers of "Hurt" appear to be relegated to using the first line only in live improvisations (source: HEREINMYHEAD.com lyrics page).  -- Rynne 16:03, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: *Well, I originally had a link to coversproject so that users could evaluate these claims for themselves, but that link too got reverted in the original rewrite -- without explanation. Jacqui ★ 16:25, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: *Sorry, I apologise for not providing an explanation.  I was a bit confused about the wording as it was written.  Since "Hurt" is one of NIN's most well-known songs, I wasn't sure how to evaluate the wording of the stub that allluding that the song might be "most notable for being covered by many artists."  It seemed that—aside from Cash's version—those covers were notable for being covers of NIN and not vice versa.  For examples, the Razor Skyline cover is on a NIN tribute record, and the Tori Amos improvs seem important in context of her relationship with the songwriter (i.e., Reznor) instead of with the song.  As such, the presence of those covers didn't seem to assert the notability of the song itself, so I left them out when expanding the stub. -- Rynne 04:33, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Covers

message: There's no need to put away in brackets in "All the Love in the World"'s I've become a million miles away.  It's a bit difficult to hear, but the official lyrics as given on http://www.nin.com/with_teeth (registration required) show that the away is part of the song. -- Rynne 14:32, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: ATLITW lyrics

message: Hurt was only a promo.
The picture that is used in the article has the words "for promotional use only" at the top.
Yes, it was labelled "Halo 10", so was the promo for Piggy.
But neither were officially released as commercial singles, so saying that it is a single in the article is wrong.
*…Which is exactly why the format is listed as "promotional CD" - Rynne 17:54, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promo v Single 

message: Especially with Cash's verison the song seems to be a christian song, is the song about this about christianity. Johnny Cash's video seens to point towards that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Leftarmchinaman (talk • contribs) 21:02, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Downward Spiral definitely has a theme on Christianity, especially in the track "Heresy". –Pomte 03:02, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Song meaning 

message: the cnn article is amiss. i've changed to the bbc news story. 
i'm saying this here, to not be confused with vandalism.
PedroCarvalho 19:41, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  link to the fire 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Cash hurt.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:NIN Hurt.jpg

message: I remember seeing a sportswear company (nike?) advert on TV in the UK which had the Cash version playing. I think it got pulled, but cant remember any more details.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.28.65.210 (talk) 11:52, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Use of Cash version in adverts

message: Does anyone have any information on specifics of the recording of the Johnny Cash cover version? In the article for the song "Personal Jesus" it was implied that Cash only sang vocals for that song while other artists recorded the instrument tracks. I was curious if it was the same situation for this song or if Cash actually played the guitar part. (Carl, January 2011)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.193.8.28 (talk) 18:42, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  More information on the Johnny Cash cover? 

message: I know Cash's version has appeared on House, M.D..  What is the proper way to source this since it's usage on House would obviously not be well sourced, since media doesn't generally report on every little song across TV shows or movies.  Would the show, season and episode number suffice?  I've seen edit wars over the whole thing so I'll ask first and if no answer is given, check on it in a little bit and add the info and see what happens.  Otherwise, I'll follow the response. Seola (talk) 17:05, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cash's cover on TV and Movies 

message: I highly doubt the image's authenticity. Is there any source to prove that it is official? Myxomatosis57 (talk) 18:57, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The image 

message: The Johnny Cash version was used by WWE in a tribute video of Eddie Guerrero on RAW on November 14, 2005. This might be worth metioning in the popular culture section.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Marekjdj (talk • contribs) 12:18, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eddie Guerrero tribute 

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message: It seems odd that there is a header after the lead stating "Original Nine Inch Nails version". It goes without saying surely? To me this header almost implies that the NIN version is less important/significant than the Johnny C version. Should it not be removed or edited to something more appropriate? Robvanvee 11:08, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  A proposal  

message: IF this is a WIKI it should unclude the lyrics  --  84.155.191.233 (talk) 01:06, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  there is the metro lyrics link to it. I found, that the word "shit" was ommited din the cash version and changed to "thornes" Saemikneu (talk) 22:50, 30 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Song Lyrics 

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message: Is this correct?
Trent Reznor has previously commented that, after Johnny Cash covered "Hurt," it became his song...and now, whenever Nine Inch Nails performs it, they do so with Cash's arrangement. 173.88.246.138 (talk) 01:46, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Is this correct?

message: Considering this article has a whole section on the Johnny Cash cover with SEVEN subsections, I propose that a new article be created solely about the Johnny Cash cover. Information about his cover can be moved from here to there. This article can still mention that Cash covered the song - but it should be at most a subsection - not an entire section itself. And seven subsections is way too much to navigate comfortably in an article primarily dedicated to the Nine Inch Nails version. 92.10.13.209 (talk) 23:27, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Johnny Cash