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Talk:Naum Yakovlevich Vilenkin

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. to Naum Yakovlevich Vilenkin (closed by non-admin page mover) Bensci54 (talk) 04:45, 5 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Naum Ya. Vilenkin →  – this is naming system in Wikipedia and there is no other Naum Vilenkin - Altenmann >talk 19:17, 28 January 2024 (UTC)

text: Weak oppose - It looks to me as though the (only?) source for the article and what I believe is a bibliography use the subject's middle name. That being said, a move to Naum Yakovlevich Vilenkin may be appropriate. Regarding Wikipedia's "naming system", we do use middle names (or initials) even if the first name and last name are unambiguous, see Franklin D. Roosevelt, Lyndon B. Johnson, John F. Kennedy, etc. estar8806 (talk) ★ 20:09, 28 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 28 January 2024
Talk:Nevil Sidgwick

message: Really? The ICL fronts directly on to South Parks Road. Is it the small road to the east of the ICL? I added a reference to the naming, but it only saying the road is named after him in the Science area. It does not say where it is. --Bduke  (Discussion) 21:44, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sidgwick Close in front of the Inorganic Chemistry Laboratory
Talk:Niccolò Cacciatore

message: The Sualocin and Rotanev story appears not only in this article, but also in the articles: Delphinus, Alpha Delphini, and Beta Delphini. There was yet another article "Sualocin and Rotanev," but enough is enough. That entry has been Redirected here. B00P (talk) 08:49, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sualocin and Rotanev
Talk:Nicholas Kemmer

message: It should be added that Kemmer wrote a very useful book:
Vector Analysis: A physicist's guide to the mathematics of fields in three dimensions
N. Kemmer
Cambridge Univ. Press, 1977
In the 1960-1970s there was much interest in surface studies. This book considers several topics not usually covered in a text on vector analysis, in particular, those concerning the behavior of fields at boundaries. Also, the illustrations are quite good.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Zorpoid (talk • contribs) 15:46, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
Talk:Abundance of elements in Earth's crust

message: The table here gives references for the % abundance but not the rankings.  Is that correct? Do any of the sources give the rankings directly? Johnjbarton (talk) 02:32, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are the rankings in the references? 

message: Per the discussion above the color alone should not be a value in the data table. A column can be added but what would it contain? A letter? L,A,C,S,T? Seems obscure but compact. The category name, Lithophile, Siderophile? Correct but takes a lot of space and is repetitive? I guess that would be the clearest. Johnjbarton (talk) 17:19, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I’d say use the full name. YBG (talk) 00:58, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  Johnjbarton (talk) 22:27, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to represent Goldschmidt category in a column? 

message: Modifying the table is not trivial so I think we should get consensus on removing these three columns. Personally I would like to have a second column to give graphic evidence of variability, but we have a hard time even finding one solid source.
I agree with @GeoWriter, which I paraphrase as: these three source do not have a citation path back to reliable data sources. They are thus not secondary sources we should cite.  
Please reply keep or delete.  Requesting input from @YBG, @Nucleus hydro elemon, @Double sharp and anyone else of course. Johnjbarton (talk) 00:35, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Delete YBG (talk) 00:53, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Delete. BTW, there is another table with this data on p. 1294 of Greenwood and Earnshaw's Chemistry of the Elements (2nd ed.), derived and updated from W. S. Fyfe's Geochemistry; probably that one is more worth including. Double sharp (talk) 03:10, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Delete. Also, the graph maybe has a different data source. I know H looks much more abundant because the graph is by atom, not by mass; but I have no idea how Pd is less abundant than Ru when the table says Pd is much more abundant than Ru, as their atomic masses don't differ that much. --Nucleus hydro elemon (talk) 05:51, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

text: @Double sharp: Are any of these data worth preserving in one of the element data pages? YBG (talk) 06:02, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't think so, since they don't appear to go back to RS. Double sharp (talk) 10:37, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. Makes sense. YBG (talk) 13:08, 23 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Johnjbarton (talk) 22:27, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to remove the "Darling", "Web Elements" and "Israel" columns from the table
Talk:Nicolaus Germanus

message: The articles Donnus Nicholas Germanus and Nicolaus Germanus clearly refer to the same person, based on the Catholic Encyclopedia reference. I am not quite sure which article should be merged into which. FlowerpotmaN (t · c) 20:27, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, merged to here as name is simpler, and previous talk exists. -- Matthead discuß!     O       05:22, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge suggestion 

message: More here:
* .
 — LlywelynII 14:27, 11 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources for future article expansion
Talk:Nigel Lockyer

message: The "Fermilab" section of Nigel Lockyer's page was introduced with the edit for this diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Nigel_Lockyer&diff=702976938&oldid=701999638
Please note that the ip address for the edit (131.225.19.238) is allocated to "Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory".
When taking the source and tone of the edits into account, this section comes across as vainglorious. For example here are some selections from it:
* "Fermilab has the most powerful neutrino beams in the world"
* "LBNF would be the most powerful tool in the world to study neutrinos"
* "the highest priority domestic construction project."
Much of the language is aspirational:
* "Fermilab will improve its Short-Baseline Neutrino Program with three detectors"
* "construction at Fermilab is scheduled to be completed between 2024 and 2026"
* "Construction of an underground is expected to be completed in 2023" (they are still just excavating and have been since 2017...).
Within the aspirational language, we have an intention of convincing the reader that everything is going fine when referencing projects that are incomplete e.g.:
* "making great progress towards its goal of a major leap in our understanding"
It's clear that the edits were posted with little review as typos have remained since 2016 (still present in 2023): "intense bean of neutrinos"
Given that there is already a wikipedia page for Fermilab, and the lack of citations for much of the details mentioned in the section being directly because of Lockyer's leadership, and that much of the information in the section is out of date (often due to timelines that have been pushed back several times under Lockyer's leadership), I suggest that the Fermilab section in this page be replaced with a short paragraph that states that Nigel Lockyer was the director of the site from 2013 to 2021, accompanied by a link to the full article on Fermilab.
Perhaps a list of the major projects that were begun or finished during his leadership would also be appropriate. Antialias (talk) 16:43, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  proposal to remove majority of "Fermilab" section
Talk:Norman L. Bowen

message: For example: https://library.gl.ciw.edu/GLHistory/pgbowen.html
He also as 2 additional D.Sc. degrees! Amazing! Joedf (talk) 23:07, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  So much more info is available!
Talk:Norman Sperling

message: I've expanded the article mostly using unpublished autobiographical material sent to me by the subject..  Much of the information is also available on the web in the "About Norm Sperling" reference and elsewhere. Still need a birth date. --Kbh3rdtalk 04:42, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, and enjoyed :) Assambrew (talk) 08:53, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unstub
Talk:Relay of Youth

message: I tagged this article because it lacks WP:A to establish WP:N ... it may be "common knowledge for anyone who grew up in former Yugoslavia,"  but Wikipedia requires WP:RS coverage, and unfortunately, we only have your word for it (link's to information about Tito and his birthday do not qualify as establishing notability for this event) ... unless you can find some coverage Real Soon Now, another editor will probably flag it for deletion. — 11:20, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unreferenced
Talk:Ostanes

message: #"Ostanes"; "Hermodorus, a disciple of Plato, mentions Ostanes as one of the names common in a supposed line of magi that ran from Zoroaster down to Alexander’s conquest. He dates Zoroaster 5,000 years before the fall of Troy and puts Ostanes first among the names of members of the line; there is no indication that he knew anything about the actual date or career of any particular Ostanes."(cut and pasted from "Iranica")
#"Ostanes"; son of Darius II and grand father of Darius III
#"Ostanes"; a part of Alexander's expedition to India
#"Ostanes"; Pliny's (fictional) "Ostanes" who had accompanied Xerxes to Greece From the end of the 1st century on, he is often referred to as an authority on necromancy and other forms of divination, astrology, the manufacture of amulets, and secret names and magical properties of plants and stones. These references, like Pliny’s, are commonly supposed to reflect works fathered on him in the Hellensitic period. No doubt they often do so, but forgery did not stop with the Roman annexation of Alexandria. Both Ostanes’s legend and his literary output increased throughout imperial times; by the Byzantine period he had become one of the great authorities in alchemy; much medieval alchemical material circulated under his name. 
According to Iranica it is not known which (if any) historical "Ostanes" the legends are based on. 
The article needs a lot of work J8079s (talk) 19:15, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  several people with this name
Talk:Paul Fildes

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thread_title:  [[:File:Sir Paul Fildes by Sir (Samuel) Luke Fildes.jpg]] to appear as POTD soon
Talk:Paul Shepard

message: I added the Infobox writer to start fleshing out this page. I incorporated what info was already available but others can help by filling in missing information such as birthdate (if we can be more exact) as well as an photo. The subject entry in the info box could probably be more complete. It is a little hard to know where to stop. Kirkmona (talk) 19:03, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox added but needs more 

message: The article seems to be a good start but is severely lacking in references. There is only one at this point. Shepard is a very notable author in the field but so far this article does not back that up. Kirkmona (talk) 19:03, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  References needed 

message: I moved the death info up in the article as it conflicted with the "Early Life and Education" heading. In reality, the info can probably be removed completely as it is in the Infobox as well but this was the ONLY referenced material in the entire article so I'm reluctant to remove it entirely. Kirkmona (talk) 19:29, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death Info 

message: There is a link here http://home.earthlink.net/~frshepard/PaulShepardbib.html that has a complete bibliography as typed up by his wife. I personally don't think everything should be included but what about just listing his books in a "List of Works" section. I see many other authors have this on their pages. It would appear as follows:
*Encounters With Nature: Essays by Paul Shepard, ed. by Florence R. Shepard with an Introduction by David
Petersen, Washington, D.C: ISLAND PRESS/Shearwater Books, 1999).
*Coming Home to the Pleistocene, ed. by Florence R. Shepard (Washington D.C. : ISLAND
PRESS/Shearwater Books, 1998).
*Nature and Madness, with a Foreword by C.L.Rawlins (Athens, GA: The University of Georgia Press, 1998)
(San Francisco: Sierra Club Books, 1982).
*Thinking Animals: Animals and the Development of Human Intelligence, with a Foreword by Max Oelschlaeger
(Athens, GA: The University of Georgia Press, 1998) (New York: The Viking Press, 1978)
*The Tender Carnivore and the Sacred Game with a Foreword by George Sessions (Athens, GA: The
University of Georgia Press, 1998) ( New York: Scribners, 1973).
*Traces of an Omnivore, with an Introduction by Jack Turner (Washington, D. C.: Island Press/Shearwater
Books, 1996).
*The Only World We've Got : A Paul Shepard Reader (San Francisco: Sierra Club Books, 1996).
*The Others: How Animals Made Us Human (Washington, D. C.: Island Press/Shearwater Books, 1996).
*Man in the Landscape: An Historic View of the Esthetics of Nature (College Station, TX: Texas A & M
University Press, 1991) (New York: Knopf, 1967).
*The Sacred Paw: The Bear in Nature, Myth, and Literature (with Barry Sanders) (New York: The Viking Press,
1985) (New York: Arcana Books, Penguin, 1992).
*Environ/mental: Essays on the Planet as Home (with Daniel McKinley) (Boston: Houghton Mifflin, 1971).
*The Subversive Science: Essays Toward an Ecology of Man (with Daniel McKinley) (Boston: Houghton
Mifflin, 1969).
What are people's thoughts on this? Kirkmona (talk) 19:38, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Works
Talk:Pentti Eskola

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed
Talk:Perenelle Flamel

message: Besides Perenelle, Nicolas, and Cornelius Agrippa, are there any other real people in the Harry Potter novels? Das Baz, aka Erudil 17:24, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: I'm happy to work on this article and improve it to save it, if no-one else minds? Zephfya (talk) 15:05, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well sure improve it, but I don't think it is in danger of deletion. Graeme Bartlett (talk) 12:26, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improvement 

message: At present, none of the references seem to be reliable sources, that is, "reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy".  There are web sites and a forum -- "self-published media—whether books, newsletters, personal websites, open wikis, blogs, personal pages on social networking sites, Internet forum postings, or tweets—are largely not acceptable".  Groomtech (talk) 06:37, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there has been no reaction, I have removed the web citations that do not appear to be reliable sources.  Groomtech (talk) 22:31, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: Is there any reason for the unusual spelling?  Groomtech (talk) 09:08, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I am unaware of any, and as there has been no comment expressing such a reason since the previous comment was left, I have normalized it. KASchmidt (talk) 01:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "Alchemyst" is the spelling in the Scott books - if the reference is specifically to those books, "Alchemyst" might be proper, perhaps with a {sic} or "Alchemyst, as it is spelled by Scott" or some other disclaimer. Applejuicefool (talk) 04:44, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alchemyst versus Alchemist 

message: Large portions of this article are based on fiction, so I'm about to put in an edit that rewrites/deletes quite a bit. Unfortunately I've just used one source but it's better than what preexisted.  If someone is better at French than I, resources exist that could improve this article.  Also see the FR version of the Nicolas Flamel page. Car Henkel (talk) 12:28, 7 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite
Talk:Peter Kosler

message: This guy Kosler was an ethnic German and had a German name, which he never changed to comply with Slovene pronunciation.. So if Slovenians in their literature change a historic person's name wilfully and adapt his name  to their way of spelling certain sounds, that is of course their own business. But in a foreign-language encyclopedia the actual form ought to be given throughout the  text. You may feel enormously generous by mentioning the correct name in a by-line anyway, but insisting on that is rather childish nationalist behaviour and is just not done. POV. Sorry! --Marschner (talk) 23:39, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry too, but do you have any reference about/for true name? :Image:Zemljovid Slovenske dezele in pokrajin.png states: IZDELAL PETER KOZLER. --AndrejJ (talk) 10:34, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Please, don't offend. It seems to me that someone else behaves as a childish nationalist here. Kozler is an alternative spelling for Kosler, following a tradition of denomination. Just as Preschern is an alternative spelling for Prešeren. Viator slovenicus (talk) 20:02, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Kosler vs. Kozler
Talk:Peter Shalen

message: Would the people who created/edited this article please add source citations for the biographical info mentioned in the article, as per WP:CITE and WP:BLP? Thanks, Nsk92 18:21, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  source citations 
Talk:Peter Woulfe

message: The picture used to illustrate this article does not show a "Woulfe Bottle". Discussions about the correct labelling of the shown object took place on :en:Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Chemistry#Woulfe_bottle and :de:Wikipedia:Redaktion_Chemie#Woulfesche_Flasche and lead to renaming of the picture and correction of its description. That is the reason why I removed it. Unfortunately, there is no picture of a "real" Woulfe Bottle hosted on Commons yet, maybe anyone can take one and upload it. This one shows what is needed. Thank you --Mabschaaf (talk) 16:15, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong picture
Talk:Philip Sheppard (biologist)

message: Notice wife's supposed date of death: error? Macdonald-ross 19:48, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Married dates go in the infobox, so their marriage ended when he died.  It is confusing, but the wiki style for all these "person infoboxes".  See the wiki notes on how to fill out an infobox. Snowman 20:28, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Query
Talk:Philip Strax

message: Shapiro, Strax and Venet found that clinical breast exams (physical examination of the breast) and mammograms together resulted in a reduction of mortality yet clinical exams are  ignored. This is a not unusual but serious oversight for publication here because the first sign of breast cancer is a palpable lump or lesion most frequently reported by the patient. Because no revenue is generated by Clinical Breast Exams industry there is no financial value to industry, lobbyists, wealthy charities, or the public sector despite the although widely accepted data suggest strongly that the earliest sign of breast cancer is a lump discovered by hand not a breast x-ray (mammogram)  72.196.98.66 (talk) 20:21, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requires revision to be accurate
Talk:Plato Tiburtinus

message: According to the Israeli (Jew) Shai Eshel, on the blog of the National Library of Israel, "Plato of Tivoli" learned all his information by moving to Avraham Bar Hiyya's city Barcelona in Catalonia, now (in 2023, still, I think,) part of Spain, and that he did not know Hebrew or Arabic, only Latin, learning both languages from Avraham, by collaborating with him over several years working on translations of Avraham's books into Latin. 
They claim that Plato did not know Arabic and that he learned Hebrew from Avraham working together on translations. I wonder where this information that he was Christian and did not know Arabic comes from. I also wonder where the information about their collaboration comes from.  
From all that is written, it is possible (in my eyes) that he was Jewish, knew Hebrew and Latin, and worked on translating into Latin Avraham's translations (which were from Arabic to Hebrew, the Arabic being earlier translations from Greek and Latin to Arabic, with many of the original texts lost, at least at that time.)
Currently, the Wikipedia article reads that Plato Tiburtinus independently and directly translated Claudius Ptolemy's Tetrabiblos from an Arabic translation. 
In the Hebrew talk page of Avraham bar-Hiyya, I wrote down and linked to all the sources of the Jewish Encyclopedia, and found that Geiger already wrote about him. It seems that most of what we know is from SHIR (Rapoport)'s prefix to bar-Hiyya's book. פשוט pashute ♫ (talk) 14:33, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christian?  Jewish
Talk:Plated ware

message: Very very common for of Sterling. Needs some discussion.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.11.27.48 (talk) 02:32, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Weighted sterling is currently a dead-end/orphan/stub and would probably be best as part of Sterling's article, since it's in a way a "form" or alloy or silver. I don't see weighted sterling as much of a topic in and of itself. Other option could be to merge weighted sterling into an article about metal plating and/or false precious metals. Lexprod (talk) 15:04, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The parent article, Plated ware, is also an orphan and it might be useful to merge those two. There is also Sheffield plate, the patterns of which were made to mimic sterling ware, but that article is better developed than the other two. --Old Moonraker (talk) 16:59, 2 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Plating also has its own article, but seems strictly to cover modern chemical and electrical plating techniques. I'm going to have to admit ignorance about methods used before electroplating, which I assume was how weighted sterling was made, but it seems that those methods are in need of some larger article (metal leaf could even be bundled in as well, another orphan.) I'm going to paste this discussion on plated ware's discussion page as it seems more relevant there than here now. Lexprod (talk) 00:01, 3 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weighted Sterling and other plating and leafing
Talk:R. Brent Tully

message: I added this vital-stat per his bibliography which puts his PhD thesis in 1972: he was probably then in his mid 20s, so 1940s is almost certainly a good approximation for his birth.--Jerzy•t 17:27, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  born c. 1940s 