Talk:Ralph H. Baer

message: This article is quite badly written.  Nolan Bushnell's name is spelled wrong, the sentence structure is very sloppy, and the factual accuracy is pretty dubious.  Baer deserves a great deal of credit for the development of the home video game industry, but he is not the "inventor of video games."  If any single person deserves that title it is Stephen R. Russell, who wrote Space War at MIT in 1961.68.14.90.253 17:59, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Some anonymous poster recently put in a lot of badly written piffle, that I'm glad to see you have removed. As with most inventions, there is some controversy about who deserves how much credit for what when it comes to video games. The current wording seems pretty good. - DavidWBrooks 19:42, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  The television channel G4 recently ran an episode of their show "Icons" featuring Baer.  It seems that a couple of people have used the very basic and somewhat one-sided historical account from that show as gospel.68.14.90.253 23:57, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: What about William Higginbotham? Drumpler 09:56, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What about him?  This is an entry on Ralph Baer.  Likewise regarding both Russell and Higginbotham, the court ruled that neither invented video games since it was defined in the court as an electronic device producing a signal through an ordinary television (video) aparatus.  Higginbotham's used a vector driven oscilliscope and Russell's a vector monitor on a mini-computer.  In the case of Russell, his wasn't even the first game written in a computer environment.  --Marty Goldberg 10:29, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I feel personally that this whole "who-invented-the-first-video-game" debate to be missing the point. The reason I brought up Higginbotham is because you have those in some camp who credit him for making the first game and then you have others (including Baer himself and rather childishly, I might add) claiming Baer made it. Then there's Russel . . . how come all these Wikipedia articles say that they ALL made the first video game when they ALL made them at different times and on different media? The articles themselves are lacking complete neutrality. Personally, I'm in the "Higginbotham" camp because he was the first one (that I know of) who decided that one could manipulate a pixel on a display for competitive purposes, but I think what needs to be done is to stop attributing any of them and state that they are claims and to make another page (maybe First Video Game?) where this debate can be hammered out. But this is just my idea. Drumpler 13:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It says "He invented the home console for video games" not that he invented the first video game, which seems reasonable. - DavidWBrooks 14:32, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually the courts decided it long ago, so I'm not sure there's much of a debate.  All parties claiming the innovation were presented as evidence by companies in the various suits across the 70's and 80's (even Higginbotham himself was called to testify) and all were dismissed.  And your statement on Higginbotham "manipulating pixels" shows the exact problem with the argument of the "higginbotham camp".  He didn't manipulate any pixels, an oscilliscope uses a vector display system not raster (i.e. a TV) - there are no pixels to manipulate.  Again a fact the courts found important when defining the word "video" and "video game" which has to do with manifulation of a television signal.  The confusion now is that the term "video game" later went on to be applied as a general term in the popular vernacular for any computerized/electronic game.  --Marty Goldberg 15:18, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Point noted. However, if it interests anyone, I still made a stub at first video game. The debate lies in the fact that you've got several sources crediting different figures as the first creator of the video game (inspite of court rulings -- I was to understand that there was a settlement? Correct me if I'm wrong). I think this new article has the potential to present all sides of the issue and being fairly unbiased if carried out correctly. Drumpler 15:41, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Several companies (since there were various suits over a long time span) chose to settle out of court (such as Atari) after procceedings had started.  Others were forced to pay royalties after Magnavox's/Sanders/Ralph's position were upheld by the court.  --Marty Goldberg 15:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

text: No william Higinbotham was th fist human to creat video games Darkpanda5000 (talk) 14:59, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
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message: The memorial was funded through a Kickstarter fundraising campaign. On the floor in front of the Ralph Baer statue are stones with individual inscriptions. Donors of a certain amount were allowed to choose the text for their stone. One element features a binary-code, translating to the ASCII codes for the word Muir, the name of its donor, Kelley Muir.
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* Reference to the Kickstarter campaign for the memorial funding https ://www.kickstarter.com/projects/baerbench/baer-bench-for-the-father-of-the-video-game
* Reference to a comment from Kelley Muir on reddit, where she discloses the funding of the stone https://www.reddit.com/r/ManchesterNH/comments/u643nm/comment/i5afmcq/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
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thread_title: Memory stones at Baer Square