Talk:List of U-boats of Germany

message: I originally intended this as a simple list of U-boats with articles.  I see no reason to include over a thousand links to nonexistent articles.  Now another user has begun to add these links.  I'd like to hear from others on what they believe this page should be.  --Pascal666 02:07, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: This list really must be divided into WWI boats, WWII boats, and post-WWII boats.  The numbering started again from 1 after Germany had to surrender all U-boats after WWI and again after WWII, and so we will have numerous duplicate numbers here.  The current listing of multiple years after various U-boat numbers is not very helpful.Cosal 03:16, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: not neccessarily; see "The List" section below. Xyl 54 (talk) 16:43, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Red links should be included.  Categories, unlike lists, link only to existing articles.  Gene Nygaard 17:36, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: I agree, categories are much better than lists.  They just didn't exist when I created this page.  Now that they do, I'd love to see all lists (including this one) get deleted.  --Pascal666 00:16, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree a list can be much more informative than a category. You can put notes beside each entry () as in when commissioned and when decommisioned and sunk etc.. Jooler 00:17, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: First comments

message: The official name of German WWII submarines was always unhyphenated. Like U 995 not U-995. Someone should change that for all boats.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.65.79.241 (talk) 12:05, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling 

message: We need more u-boats here--Ogulsev 03:58, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to add any you can. Xyl 54 (talk) 16:53, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Another comment

message: Really, each U-boat which saw service should have its own individual page. This is clearly a lot of pages, since in the First World War there were 167 "U-class" boats, 155 "UB-class" boats and 114 "UC-class" boats (although probably only 2/3 of these saw active service) whilst in the Second World War there were over 1,000 operational U-boats. This is in addition to German post-war submarines which bear the same designations. This raises some problems, especially as many U-boats share numbers and designations. I see that some people have tried to put all boats with the same designation on the same page, but this raises all sorts of problems or size, as well as the fact that the boats on the page have nothing besides name and nationality to connect them. My suggestion is to create a disambiguation page as with U-69 and then create seperate articles from there, creating all relevant links here too. If any one has a better idea then please say so.--Jackyd101 15:13, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The List

message: I added a large number of links please leave them there; someone said it encourages additions, which it does.--Noha307 20:39, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Links 

message: I'm planning to add the UB, UC and Austro-Hungarian boats to this list. If that's a problem to anyone please let me know before I get too far into it.
Xyl 54 (talk) 14:58, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Additions

message: The point about completing the list is valid, but we can get the same effect by writing the name/number in black. 
And the problem with a red link is it dictates the name of the new article; if we are going to do that then Unterseeboot is wrong, for a whole variety of reasons (see below). Xyl 54 (talk) 17:03, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red links, again 

message: There is a pressure here to use Unterseeboot as the title for these U-boat pages.
I think this is wrong because;-
*It effectively loses the page: When I first searched for "U-47", or "U-boat U 47" or "German submarine U 47" it didn’t throw up anything useful; I eventually found it by following the link from HMS Royal Oak, which is ridiculous.
*Unterseeboot is an abbreviation, like HMS or USS; We don’t write "His Majesties Submarine..", or "United States Submarine…" in full, so why "Unterseeboot…"?
*Unterseeboot is a foreign term; it isn't a loan word, or a borrowed term, and it isn't untranslatable, so wher is the justification for its use? The English word is U-boat, which may be derived from unterseeboot, but it’s no more correct to use that than to say Chai instead of Tea.
*It breaks with convention: Other submarine  pages use HMS, etc for English-speaking navies, and “Italian submarine” French Submarine” etc for others; so why is "German Submarine" unacceptable?
*No other german warships use this format: Bismarck is “German battleship…” not "Schlachtshiffe.."; Again, why is Unterseeboot different?
Can we do something about this?
Xyl 54 (talk) 17:15, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the most appropriate place to discuss and reach a consensus would be at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (ships). — Bellhalla (talk) 17:48, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, done; further discussion here. Xyl 54 (talk) 10:09, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming, again 

message: Proposed move: List of U-boats → List of German U-boats
Rationale: Since there already exists a List of Austro-Hungarian U-boats and this page (even before the recent reworking over the last few months) has identified itself as listing German U-boats, I believe that the suggested new title would more accurately reflects the content of the page. — Bellhalla (talk) 17:45, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: Currently we have just lists of hull numbers, divided into 3 eras.  Far more useful if it were broken up by type, e.g. "Type VII", Type IXB" etc. Solicitr (talk) 15:38, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really: the various U-boat types all have their own templates, with a full listing of  boats for each type. Far better to have a straight numerical list somewhere (like here). Xyl 54 (talk) 23:26, 27 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed reorganization