Talk:She-Hulk

message: Several times during this entry She-Hulk is referred to as "the She-Hulk", would it be ok if I changed this just to "She-Hulk" - I'm pretty sure her name doesn't have a "the" prefix. Scarlettspiderg 21:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming 

message: This section is trending towards becoming a long, boring, and prurient catalogue of each of Jennifer Walters' and the She-Hulk's sexual encounters.  This doesn't seem to me to be a necessary or proper approach to follow.  The character has relationships with men, and she has had sex; while the entry should (I suppose) acknowlege this, it doesn't need to describe every instance in which it occurred.
And although the Wyatt relationship does need to be acknowledged, does the following paragraph add anything to the entry? 
*In Fantastic Four 278, She-Hulk literally swept Wyatt off his feet for a passionate kiss. The two lovers then disappeared for a few pages, and when they emerged later that same evening, She-Hulk was wearing different clothes.
I'm inclined to think that it doesn't.--Galliaz 00:22, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello 2806:109F:E:821B:15EF:94BC:BB0A:3C35 (talk) 02:42, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationships 

message: Although pages like this are of course maintained by fans, the information provided should be objectively-derived and supportable. This article is loaded with subjective, speculative commentaries (at least half of the Relationships section, for instance). I removed some uncited (and likely uncitable) remarks about the alleged unpopularity of costumes she briefly wore twenty years ago. I also removed a reference under the Powers section referring to her "capacity for love and understanding" as her greatest super-power. 69.180.14.65 22:31, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please remember, Wikipedia is not a fan site 

message: The article has been taking a lot of tangents as of late, especially when talking about "breaking the fourth wall" and "skills", as they start talking about other characters in a lot more detail.  Is this the way we want the article to be going?--Toquinha 15:18, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Toquinha, I agree 100%.  Also: while the article should address the fact that the She Hulk is a vibrant woman whom men find attractive (she clearly engages in and enjoys sex in Dan Slott's recent series), the discussion of her sexuality is totally unsatisfactory as it now stands.--Galliaz 01:17, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Toquina: Thanks for the nice editing job!--Galliaz 13:51, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tangents 

message: Instead of the She-Hulk images, all i see is "Error creating thumbnail: convert: unable to open image `/mnt/upload3/wikipedia/en/a/af/Shehulk01.jpg': No such file or directory." in their respective places. Is this just me or what? Ace Class Shadow 06:45, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just you it seems, sorry.Jayunderscorezero 18:44, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: She-Hulk doesn't appear on the Comic_book_death page, even though she's died twice now (I think - she said so in court once).  I don't have issue references, though; does anyone here have the library to fill in that information?  Wyvern 02:58, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just assumed that she was talking about 'dying' in one of the major crossovers. Doesn't she 'die' in the Infinity Gauntlet crossover? Lots of characters did. She probably dies in SS-H too, but I wouldn't know.Jayunderscorezero 02:16, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanos wiped out half of existance during Infinity Gauntlet - but I'm pretty sure She-Hulk survived. However, during Marvel Universe:The End all of existance is wiped out (but I don't think its 616).Scarlettspiderg 17:30, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Was Shulkie part of the gathering of heroes that attacked Thanos and were killed, only to be ressurected later?  That was a separate incident from Thanos' wiping out half of existence. -- Pennyforth 11:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's right.  Thanos killed her along with Namor. Elefuntboy 14:26, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death 

message: Should She-Hulk be listed as in the category of :Category:Marvel Comics anti-heroes? I've left it there because it is true that in her more berserker moments she can cause trouble, but I wonder if as a whole she should be listed here...--Tuberculosisness 17:00, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anti-Hero 

message: Is there a comment in the article about her capability of changing back into Jen Walters?  Her Graphic Novel by Byrne had her losing that option, but the first volume of the current series retcons it a bit (I do not remember the exact way). Luis Dantas 17:20, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transforming into Jen Walters 

message: Is it true she slept with him?  Didn't she later say she didn't remember or it was due to her imbalances by spending to much time as She-Hulk?  Wasn't it ever retcon or did I read wrong? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Seekquaze (talk • contribs) 04:19, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The primary point to be made is that what's not confusing at all is that the character has denied sleeping with Juggernaut in the same issue in which she makes the pass at Wolverine.  What's ironic is that Dan Slott, the writer of the current series, is 'commenting' on what we're doing here by having the She-Hulk state: "I didn't sleep with Juggernaut!  Why does everyone keep saying that!": he's making light of the fact that a portion of the fanbase is taken with the did-she-or-didn't she aspect of this particular question.  Finally, based upon the arguments I've made here, even if it turns out that she actually slept with Juggernaut, I don't think that the information is worthy of inclusion in the entry.--Galliaz 09:44, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

text: The entry includes Wolverine's dialogue saying that she slept with Juggernaut, and She-Hulk clearly saying that she didn't: I don't see any room for confusion.  Finally, I don't agree with your assertion that the comics reader has any kind of ominpotent point of view, especially given how writers have frequently resorted to retcons, false memories, and similarly convenient "plot-devices" in order to explain away story elements that a previous author might have put in place.  The title's present writer, Dan Slott, knows that many of his readers are aware of this, and is pretty much toying with us on this particular point.--Galliaz 10:25, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

text: She-Hulk #17 is ambiguous. You can either read it as implying a retcon or simply as She-Hulk's denial. Since there is a comic that shows Juggernaut/She-Hulk in bed together, I would keep the info about them having slept together for now, unless a more obvious and explicit retcon takes place in the future. -- Jayunderscorezero 12:42, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For the record, there's been a more explicit statement as to whether or not she has slept with Juggernaut--She-Hulk #19, pages 14 and 15, where it's established in court that, despite her denials, she did.  Rdfox 76 01:29, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't read it as explicit, rather than 'documented' in a Marvel comic. She continued to vehemently deny it, and has consistently been perplexed and/or frustrated whenever anyone has brought it up. It remains ambiguous and could just as easily 'explained', for example by stating that it was CopyCat, much like the latter mimicked Titania, or just tie into Bendis' skrull plot. Dave 21:06, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I read it the same way as Dave did: Jennifer copped to being way less inhibited as the She-Hulk, and to having had a lot more sexual partners as the She-Hulk than Jennifer Walters ever would, but, even when presented with the image from the Marvel comic, she still actively and vehemently denied having slept with Juggernaut.--Galliaz 21:41, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: She-Hulk and Juggernaut

message: The powers section may benifit from further detailing She-Hulks strength level in regards to her emotional state.  While the article does state that her strength increases with fear, "However, she does not possess the rage-enhanced level of strength the Hulk does."  This statment should be clarified and expanded.  As it currently reads, it seems to state that She-Hulk's strength does not increase with anger; however, my understanding, depicted in the Avengers Disassembled storyline was that when enrage she does gain mass and strength, ripping Vision and two and running amok beating the other Avengers; and rage was the intial catalyst for her metamorphsis as the Savage She-Hulk.  (I understand that anything in the Disassemble storyline could be written off as Scarlet Witch hijinx; however, this instance, if not showing that She-Hulk does gain strength and mass when enrage, should at least merit the removal of the line quoted earlier.)  If the the quote above is meant to be interpreted that She-Hulk's uppermost strength level does not reach the same uppermost level of her cousin, then the statement needs to be clarified.  In short She-Hulk's power section about strenght needs to either include anger/rage, and/or needs to clarify her uppermost limits in contrast to the Hulk's. 66.109.248.114 23:02, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Powers

message: Prior to my edit of this date, the publication history started on the one-year anniversary of the character - which seemed unusual.  I found text in older versions of the page which used to be the 1st paragraph of the section and restored it.  More details regarding exact dates available on request. Fitfatfighter 05:18, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Publication History 

message: It's unclear to me why the entry should list that the She-Hulk appears on the cover to Avengers: The Initiative.  I'm open to hearing a rationale/explanation, and look forward to a discussion of the material's importance.--Galliaz 23:35, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This seems to me to be a sensible approach: when She-Hulk does something of note in Avengers: Initiative, we can add a description of it to the entry. Otherwise, simply listing the cover appearance is superfluous.--Galliaz 22:37, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Initiative cover 

message: Looking in my own copies of this title, I see the dates are actually May 2004 for #01 and April 2005 for #12, not March 2004 to February 2005. I'm not going to edit this, because despite the evidence of my eyes, I still find the numbering of the "She-Hulk" titles a little odd. If anyone else feels this is a valid discrepancy, edit away I say. Pcgneurotic 14:46, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: US comic books have basically always featured cover dates that project about a couple months into the future (so that they stay in the shelves that much longer and have a better chance of being bought); I do not know if that is the reason for your doubts, however. Luis Dantas 02:44, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If memory serves, traditionally, the cover date on comic books was when the newsstand sellers were supposed to pull the old issue off the stand and return it to the publisher as unsold.  While there's virtually no places still selling comics that actually return unsold books for credit (specialty comic shops find it more profitable to just put any issues that don't sell in the first year or so in the bargain bin), the cover dates were never realigned with the actual ship dates, to avoid having two or three issues with the same cover date.  Rdfox 76 03:04, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  She-Hulk v1 Pub. Dates 

message: I read in a She-Hulk letters page once that Jennifer's transition to a smart She-Hulk happened because Gemini (of the Zodiac)- probably the android one) helped merge her personas in an issue of the original series. I do not know this for a fact, and I find it odd that this isn't mentioned anywhere else. Anyone can comfirm or deny? -Wilfredo Martinez 17:53, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was the android one created by Skorpio, yes; and it happened in the original "Savage She-Hulk" series - but it was basically a matter of resolving her anger and lack of control over the transformation; at the time the matter of merging personas was not mentioned, at least not explicitly. Luis Dantas 02:40, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gemini

message: Folks, I'm gonna go out on a bit of a limb here and recommend that anyone who makes that same edit with the obsession with barefootedness be reverted and issued at least a uw-v2 warning; this person, under various names, has been putting said comments into the article on and off for at least a month now.  I'm not sure if they're the same person who also seemed to have an obsession with superheroines being swimmers and nudists, too, but it wouldn't surprise me, as the writing style is similar.  Rdfox 76 01:32, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barefoot thing 

message: I think it would be worth mentioning that she-hulks VS system cards also break the fourth wall.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.184.204.55 (talk) 21:08, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fourth Wall 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:SHE-HULK 3image big.jpg

message: Should there be a link to a separate, short article on the history of the writers and artists who have done She-Hulk stories? John Byrne and Dan Slott get mentioned a lot in the current main article, but there have been many other gifted writers and artists who have interpreted this character. However, listing them all in the main article would be very cumbersome, distracting and probably irritating to casual fans.Shfan001 (talk) 23:20, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artist/writer histories 

message: As I was reading through the article, I came across the following statement in the "publication History" section:
[Perhaps someone could verify whether Avengers #233 was Byrne's very first She-Hulk art?]
I don't think this sentence would be considered very encyclopedic and should be considered for removal. However, I have chosen not to remove this as someone might just put it back in immediately.--Spaced35 (talk) 21:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unnecessary Material 

message: From the "skills" section--"first using psychology to distract him"--I have to say as an undergraduate psychology student I find this sentence abit ridculous. They should probably be more clear about how she distracted him as Psychology isn't some magical formula you can use to control peoples minds. I don't mean to sound pretencious but i'm sure i'm not the only one who thinks that sentence sounds abit silly.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.227.228.91 (talk) 03:04, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, She-Hulk did stomp on Abomination's severe case of bad self-esteem, which gave her the few seconds necessary to sucker-punch him, but re-word it to something better if you wish. Dave (talk) 11:58, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Psychology

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replies: text: Done - as the header at the top suggests there just aren't enough references so it doesn't make it to a B but it is a good C. One problem is almost always going to be the homage/parody section because without proper references such sections are almost always going to be magnet for trivia and unsourced speculation. (Emperor (talk) 20:11, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Comics B-Class Assesment required

message: A recent edit-revert confused me.  While it was indeed valid information (and, unlike the "barefoot" guy, not meant as fetish-fuel), why was my addition of (properly cited) information about She-Hulk's breasts removed, despite it (I had assumed) fitting in appropriately with the rest of the info about her other physical traits like strength, durability, etc.? It wasn't meant as some sort of "tittilation" aspect (even if making an alien fleet explode from surprise at seeing breasts is kinda awesome), but was plainly presented as a situation that occured in the comic. So why the removal? -- 74.232.131.46 (talk) 23:37, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breasts are offensive? 

message: Is the She-Hulk comic a serious or a silly one? All my Marvel-related books imply it's serious, bu some internet sources imply it's silly. -Golem866 (talk) 22:46, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serious or Silly 

message: In the "Film" sub-section of "In other media" there is an item that begins with this: "A live-action motion picture was planned in the late 1980s, with Carl Gottlieb as writer and Tamara Asseyev as producer." It goes on to say that Brigitte Nielsen had "pose[d] for photos dressed both as She-Hulk and...Jennifer Walters." This is illustrated by a photo of the actress in Hulk mode. However, it is unsourced, and a very sourced (to Comics Scene magazine) item under "Television" (my work I admit) has the character at that very time quite firmly attached to the third TV-movie sequel to The Incredible Hulk TV series. A year later a big-screen She-Hulk film was in the works (and a TV series deal was "dead"), written not by Gottlieb but Larry Cohen (also set to direct, and also sourced in that item). What isn't mentioned there is that the August 1991 issue of the same magazine had added Nielsen to Cohen's film, still no sign of Gottlieb (or Asseyev either, for that matter). If someone doesn't come up with a source for the "Film" item soon, I'll have to take it out on the grounds that those sources contradict it. As is, I have to go back in and rewrite to say that Nielsen was not connected until 1991. My apologies for that gaffe. --Tbrittreid (talk) 23:48, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brigitte Nielsen film 

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thread_title: File:Shehulk01.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion

message: This is one of the abilities listed in the article. If her healing factor is so advanced that it is 'regenerative', how would this affect someone like Jennifer who has a very active sex life?
The reason I ask is: wouldn't a regenerative healing factor regrow a hymen? Asked the same query about X-23. Not sure if there are any other Marvel/DC fast-heal females this could apply to. Ranze (talk) 10:08, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless that's mentioned in the comics, (which I doubt) it would just be speculation, and has no place on Wikipedia.--In Donaldismo Veritas (talk) 23:10, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Regenerative healing factor

message: Why is there no mention in this entry of Jen's being put on trial? Merleblue (talk) 19:16, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  She-Hulk #100? 

message: Is "The Marvel Comics Database" a backdoor house organ for Marvel?  They seem to use Marvel's fiercely-defended IP rather freely and I don't see any disclaimer.  Anyway, they cite that Benny Hill sketch mentioned in this article's Parodies section as the catalyst for the character's creation rather than just a tangental reference.  If that's true it's more a part of her legitimate history.  Asat (talk) 11:49, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Benny Hill, father of Shulkie? 

message: The article is pretty enigmatic about the car troubles running gag.  Could someone either explain it to me or flesh out the article to better explain it to a reader who isn't familiar with the character?
I just happened to look this article up tonight and don't watch it, so if you answer this could you please ping me in the reply?  Thanks, Dismas|(talk) 02:19, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Car troubles 

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message: Volume 2, #3 (#100), in which Stu Cicero, a law firm "researcher" asks Jen if she can "really do stuff like that." She somewhat wistfully replies "No. I can't" – however, the panel is drawn at a somewhat ambiguous angle that suggests She-Hulk may be looking "out" of the comic, at the reader. --I'm guessing that Fair Use would cover inclusion of this very panel. "At an ambiguous angle" is pretty vague and, I just feel that the entire passage seems sadly lacking without the actual illustration, or possibly a black & white version of it? Is Marvell's permission needed? She-Hulk, will you help us? Cuvtixo (talk) 19:25, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I'm thwarted by the article description of it being "the latest series". I can find https://www.comics.org/issue/259748/ and  references to She-Hulk #3(100) "She-Hulk (Marvel, 2004 series) - 12 issue She-Hulk (Marvel, 2005 series) [this series] - 2 issues" my GoogleFu doesn't extend to comic books. Cuvtixo (talk) 19:42, 18 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Passage Deserves Illustration/Image 

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thread_title:  Image deletion nomination(s) 

message: In the section for the Marvel Cinematic Universe version, it say that there was an attack by a Sakaaran scout ship, but there is no indication that it is an attack and later in the episode Bruce Banner explains that he believes they were there to deliver a message. 66.225.97.121 (talk) 19:01, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  MCU Series 

message: Re:  "Like her cousin Bruce, his counterpart, the Leader, Doc Samson and most other persons mutated by exposure to gamma radiation over the years, her mutated form was originally explained as being molded by her subconscious desire to look like the ideal woman."
I'd like to request a citation for this, please. 98.27.219.220 (talk) 22:37, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I was not the one who added the information, but I vaguely recall reading something about it in the 1980s official Marvel Comics handbook. I may remember wrong though, so it would be appreciated if others can confirm please. David A (talk) 13:53, 5 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jennifer's ideal form 

message: Given that it has been around 40 years since Jennifer appeared in her "Savage She-Hulk" incarnation, and she is now by far best defined by her kind, funny, confident, and idealistic "Sensational She-Hulk" incarnation, which she has spent the by far greatest amount of time in, would it be acceptable to update her header image in this page accordingly? The following image looks much better, for example.
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/File:She-Hulk_Vol_4_1_Hughes_Variant_Textless.jpg
https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Jennifer_Walters_(Earth-616)
David A (talk) 03:17, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  A more characteristic and distinctive image 

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thread_title:  "[[:She-Hulk/Temp]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: Would somebody please be willing to greatly improve on the structure of She-Hulk's "Fictional character biography" section? It currently lacks lots of references, mixes together events in different storylines, such as "The Seach for She-Hulk" and "Avengers Disassembled", and is also missing several important key events.
Please see here for a better handled and more comprehensive structure in that particular regard: https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Jennifer_Walters_(Earth-616) David A (talk) 08:18, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problems with the fictional character biography section