Talk:Steak sandwich

message: I have a better suggestion, lets do this like the hamburger and cheeseburger articles. The main article will be steak sandwich with a link in it to the cheese steak sandwich article. I would also make a suggestion to rename it steak and cheese sandwich per WP:Common name, but that is secondary and could be the subject to a later debate. The cheese steak article itself needs a major rewrite per my comments on its talk page, the most central would be that it should not be an article about Philly and its culture, it should be an article about a sandwich with origins in Philly. See the table below for my idea. --Jeremy (blah blah) 06:07, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: After further research, I decided to WP:Be bold and go ahead and make this change. I hope everyone finds it to be a workable solution. BillyTFried (talk) 11:15, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion break 

message: I fear the wording of the proposal has caused unintended offence. Let's all please take a few deep breaths, siddown and have a cuppa tea (or whatever you're drinking) and remember that this is not a referendum on the validity of any or all cultural or regional variations on the theme of beef sandwiches. They're all valid. They're all delicious. They all have interesting histories and proud devotees. None of that is up for debate here, because all of it will remain true whether the individual single-sandwich articles are kept or they're brought together into one article. 
What we're trying to decide is whether we can most encyclopædically treat these various types of beef sandwich in a grand unified article. I think we can. I think it's the most encyclopædic way to do it, for it will make it easier for us to describe the similarities and differences among the different types of beef sandwich, and their evolution and cultural heritage relative to one another, without awkwardness or clunkiness. 
Another thing to consider: over the years I've put in a good amount of work at Automotive lighting. Please go take a look at the table of contents, and notice all the different devices handled in that one article. Many of them had their own separate articles, but were merged into the one big article, and one thing I noticed was that the pace and degree of improvement and expansion really quickened noticeably after the merges. It's simple mathematics, really; bringing all these beef sandwiches together into one article — each with its own section, of course! — will mean more readers seeing each photo and each bit of text, and more readers means more editors, and more editors means more contributions, and generally that's to the good. —Scheinwerfermann T·C02:00, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This is the first time I've ever come into contact with any of these articles, as I am responding to a notice in Wikiproject Food & Drink. So I have no personal investment one way or the other on either side of the issue. However, examining the individual articles on French Dip and such, each showing the distinctiveness of each variation, it's hard for me to find much basis for a merger. --JohnnyB256 (talk) 02:13, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Staying focused

message: Er, has everyone noticed that BillyTFried has implemented a proposed solution by placing links in the Steak sandwich article to each of the other articles, making Steak sandwich a kind of compendium with more details available in the linked articles, as is a common practice throughout en:wiki? Does the group accept that solution or do we need to keep discussing a complete merger of all the articles? I'm happy with Billy's solution as it seems to provide the benefits of merging while allowing the separate articles to remain. All the articles can use some more work, of course, but can we move on and close the merge discussion? Geoff T C  15:46, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Support That's sensible. Allows articles on notable subjects to be expanded and covers them broadly in the main topic. ChildofMidnight (talk) 17:42, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge direction? 

message: The articles are not the appropriate place to try to prove your argument that they should be merged.Cptnono (talk) 03:51, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles

message: We do not need this uch info about the cheesesteak here since it has its own article. A paragrahph or to with the further info tag is sufficient.Cptnono (talk) 02:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: When I first did the WP:Transclusion there was only brief mention, but since all the work that was done to the Cheesesteak page, the "closing" transclusion tag has been screwed up. I'll fix it now. BillyTFried (talk) 02:34, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This should not be done as a transclusion, You should be doing it in summary style. Just nit-picking... --Jeremy (blah blah) 03:35, 13 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Neither article is complete without acknowledging Lehigh Valley (PA) Italian-style steaks and cheesesteaks topped with marinara or other tomato-based sauce. The rest of the country was ignorant until the late 80s and now thinks Philly had the ONLY authentic sandwich due to prejudicial promotion. 173.64.111.235 (talk) 13:45, 26 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Cheesesteak

message: I have never heard any of these roast beef-based sandwiches (roast beef, Italian beef or French dip) referred to as a "steak sandwich." I have only ever heard that term applied to cheesesteaks and other sandwiches made using steak that meets the definition given in the first paragraph of the article ("broiled, fried, grilled, barbecued or seared").  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.231.6.68 (talk) 16:31, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roast beef-based sandwiches? 

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