Talk:Heart and Soul (Frank Loesser and Hoagy Carmichael song)

message: The Incredibles? Where did it show up there? 75.16.63.238 02:42, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: the article states "Virtually all beginner piano students can play this song". Really? Even in China? This sounds incredibly ethnocentric, not to mention it's unsourced. Joliefille 09:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They probably can, even in China. It would be more ethnocentric to say "virtually all beginner students in the west can play this song." There is no ethnic or geographic reference at all in the original statement, and no-one would find anything ethnocentric about it unless they were looking really, really hard to find it. Koro Neil (talk) 09:49, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

text: I would consider it just plain false, not ethnocentric. CheeseDeluxe (talk) 02:40, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  All piano players? 

message: Is this the same Heart and Soul played by Huey Lewis and the News?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.140.218.179 (talk) 06:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huey Lewis? 

message: Completely different lyrics and rhyming scheme. Beth Orton did "Heart of Soul" - Not Heart and soul.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.231.8 (talk) 07:43, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beth Orton 

message: There is disagreement over the correct version of the song.  Some people, probably purist, believe it should be CADG, while most people play it CAFG.  Hoagy Carmichael wrote it as CADG.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdmitch16 (talk • contribs) 05:02, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Debate 

message: It seems that this article is lacking in some fundamental substance -- the song is one of America's most recognizable 1930s standards, and half of the article is a list of movies it appears in.  It's good that the I-vi-IV-V progression (but isn't it I-vi-ii-V??) gets mentioned, but it seems under-discussed (I think?). I'm not a jazz scholar, but I was under the impression that this progression is often taught as the "Heart and Soul" progression (or "Blue Moon" progression), and that the B-part is typically used as THE example of a circle-of-fifths composition.  If so, there should certainly be a bit more music-theory-history mention in there.  
Also, the "I love the mountains" lyrics should get their due citation.  Does anyone know who wrote them?  I think they appear in Girl Scouts songbooks from a few decades ago, and I believe they are also in "Rise Up Singing," but again, I'm not sure.  The Discovery Channel ad is not really a parody of "Heart and Soul," but actually a re-writing of "I love the mountains," and yes, I know everyone on WP is just itching to say that there's an XKCD comic that plays off of the Discovery Channel ad, but really that's a play-on-a-rewrite-of-a-rewrite, and getting a little far-removed from the subject at hand.
Any jazz students out there want to lend a hand?
--Dgianotti (talk) 16:56, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too much 2000s pop culture? 

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message: Should there be a new section about this song's impact on popular culture? The statement about many new piano students being taught to learn it can be moved here, as well as its inclusion in the "American Graffitti" and "Big" motion pictures. In fact, many people first learned about "Heart and Soul" when they watched "Big" as a child.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.247.193.93 (talk) 18:32, 18 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Popular Culture 

message: Should there be some mention somewhere of version with a ii, rather than a IV. Does anyone know if that is the original version? Squandermania (talk) 13:50, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: On the Hoagy Carmichael Greatest Hits LP the bass is clearly playing I-VI-II-V, just like every kid who played the bass part on piano. 174.247.253.81 (talk) 06:06, 28 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, wikipedia's own Doo Wop entry references Heart and Soul as formative to the genre and specifically says it is a i-vi-ii-v progression. 174.247.236.10 (talk) 02:48, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  I-vi-ii-V