Talk:Stargate SG-1/Archive 2

message: "The Replicators are a product of a humanoid android who was created by a human (most probably Alteran) scientist." In atlantis it reveals that they built them to defeat the warith. Peachey88 10:49, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Replicators

message: I split it into a seperate article, leaving some high points here, to get the article back within size regulations.
21:35, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: As an anon edit just pointed out, Anubis's fallen state isn't revealed until later, yet we mention it in season 5. Should we modify this? JoshuaZ 03:31, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 7 spoiler in season 5 section? 

message: The seasons summaries are hardly season summaries at all. They just point out events that happen in the season and say what happens in relation to those events in future seasons.  Most of the season summaries mention things that happen in future seasons, instead of retreading the events of the season itself. This needs to be changed. A few months ago I could have written them, but I don't remember the plotline of each season completely. bob rulz 00:55, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed a rewrite needed, but remember this page is meant to be an overall summary - we do NOT want a detailed summary season-by-season. Each season section should ideally have a brief outline of the major events and arcs of that Season, placing it in context with the whole. Brevity is a virtue here. Remember that we also have List of Stargate SG-1 episodes and articles for every episode.-- Alfakim --  talk  20:33, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that it shouldn't go into too much detail, but I am a firm believer in good summaries in addition to detailed descriptions on subpages. Too many things on Wikipedia have short, insufficient summaries on the main page followed by in-depth articles that take a long time to read. No, it shouldn't be excessive, but I believe that the season summaries can be summed up in one paragraph better than they are now. bob rulz 04:44, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say the best form of summary would be more like setting up the stage of things. Rather than tell us what happened in the series, tell us what has already happened to build up to this point, and what may or may not happen. Spoilers are well and fine, inside of episode summaries, but not in season summaries. -Emhilradim 02:33, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season summaries 

message: "The scene where Daniel Jackson prevents a naquadria explosion with the use of his hands is possibly an allusion to an actual, similar accident involving Louis Slotin in the Manhattan Project."
Would it be correct to say it is also reminisent of Spock's sacrifice in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan?
:Not really, seeing as the incident is almost exactly like Slotin's and it occurs on a planet which is at the same level of development.--70.23.139.250 21:23, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daniel Jackson's sacrifice 

message: The article says:
On October 24, 2005 Stargate SG-1 was renewed for an unprecedented tenth season. This will make Stargate the longest running science fiction television show and the longest running cable show in U.S. television history.
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What about Dr Who List_of_Doctor_Who_serials - which has been going (on and off) for significantly longer - both in terms of seasons and duration?
Does the "US television history" portion refer to both durations, or just the cable show part? 
Dugo 23:16, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably both. GusF 23:28, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longest Running Sci-Fi serial? 

message: # The page you linked to lists less than 200 episodes.  By the end of stargate's 10th season it will have more total episodes.
# Doctor is a universe devided into sevral subseries (which can be considered diffrent shows).  Just like the Star Trek unievrse has TOS, TNG, DS9 Voyager and enterprise, Stargate has Stargate SG-1 and Stargate Atlantis.  Stargate SG-1 is one show.  One series, making it last far longer than any subsiries of Doctor who or Star Trek.  
#Doctor who is a british show and has only aried in the US recently, making stargate the longest running US show.  Tobyk777 08:32, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a few corrections to this: 1) the numbers you were looking at as episodes actually refer to story arcs. There have been about 720 individual episodes of Doctor Who, it's just that many of them were multi-part stories. 2) Doctor Who isn't divided into many shows, like Star Trek was. It's one show that's been revived, but not in a spin-off format. The original ran from 1963 to 1989, then a TV movie was made in 1996, and now the new series began in 2005. You could conceivably make an argument that these are all different "shows," but the creators and the fans all consider it the same (and in any event, the original run is certainly one show). 3) The new Doctor Who has only recently begun airing on the Sci-Fi channel, but the original series has run off and on on PBS stations in the US since 1972. --Brian Olsen 14:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: There are three ways of answering this question

message: Where is the article's main picture from?  For some reason I don't recall SG-1 wearing those uniforms...  --Tim4christ17 08:12, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Uhh ... could it be the 1st Season? :-) --Dennette 10:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That could explain it - I haven't seen the 1st Season in a while.  --Tim4christ17 07:15, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Main Picture

message: The following is in this article and has been popping up in other articles..
"Because of these differences, some fans of the film consider the television series as its own separate entity, rather than a proper sequel to the film. Using some of Emmerich's notes, Bill McCay wrote a series of five novels continuing the story the original creators had envisioned."
This version is much better in terms of NPOV terms but I still question whether or not it should be included. It is definitely original research and point of view but it is a POV that I would say most people agree with to a degree. So what does everyone think? Konman72 22:52, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Until I'd seen the mentions in Wikipedia about it, it'd never occured to me to think of SG-1 and Atlantis as anything other than a continuation of the movie.  Yes, there were some minor discrepancies - but there will always be discrepancies in developing works.  Rather, I'd thought of the Stargate Movie/SG1/Atlantis works to be part of one canon, and the Stargate movie/novelization/sequel books to be a separate canon.  One work (the movie) existing separately in two canons.  --Tim4christ17 07:22, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Series/Movie Continuation

message: I added RDAnderson.com.  It has a large database. PrometheusX303 15:28, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: Who ever it is that keeps putting the petition on the main article please stop! It'll only be reverted to the last good edit. WP articles are not the place for petitions. I like the series as much as anyone else but I dont need to see petitions to save a dying show each time i check this article. SimonD 16:01, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nooooo!!!!! OMG sign the petition - http://www-dot-ipetitions-dot-com/petition/Stargate/index.html Morphh 21:25, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, Wikipedia's spam filter (of all things) obliged me to disable the ipetitions link. Avt tor 10:31, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Give it a rest, no petition can save Stargate.  Stargate was in its twilight years no matter what.  Every year it became progressively more expensive to produce because everyone's sallarys got a bump.  After 10 years, those costs started wearing into the profits.  Combined with other factors, Stargate was bound to fade off.  SG1 is finishing its long run, and its time this horse get a chance to rest. Alyeska 21:33, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All the same, I'd like it to go on just 1 more season. They're certainly not going to be able to tie up the current plot by the end of season 10. HaganeNoKokoro 22:49, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They can tie it up in a single episode ... the Ancients step in and wipe out all ascended beings, including themselves, in a noble act of self-sacrifice. Problem solved. :-) --Dennette 02:33, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

text: So cliff hang it and do a miniseries. Alyeska 23:01, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The producer says the series will go on, we'll just have to see how. Source. Orta 01:47, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I completely agree.  Stargate is the best TV show of all time, how can we let it end?!!?!?!?!?  My reasoning for why it's the producers fault is here on the stargate project talk pages.  There is a similar thread there.  Tobyk777 05:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

text: "Secure their place"?!? Not even close... solid second, of course, but I'm not sure anything will ever surpass Doctor Who's run. (Any ideas on what the top five are?) --Ckatzchatspy 08:16, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Doctor Who's run is up for debate tho, it hasnt been on every single year and it hasnt been the same series since it first came on.... its kinda like saying star trek is the longest running show.... if you count them all together.... -Xornok 22:02, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Even without the 2005/2006 episodes, it's still the longest-running series, with (if memory serves) 695 episodes running continuously from 1963 to 1989. --Ckatzchatspy 02:08, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Agreed. Ive changed it back to "'present" for now. Also the series is not actually discontinued till MGM (who owns the series) says it is. SCI-FI just wont be airing it beyond season 10. Lets not jump the gun. -- Rafy08:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stargate SG-1 cancelled according to GateWorld 

message: It seems what we've learned from the Dakara superweapon deal, is that it was used to recreate life in the galaxy after the plague, but this contradicts what we learned from Teal'c (and the few things kept as canon from the movie) that the Goa'uld found the "first world - the Tau'ri" where all humans came from to other planets by the Goa'uld, if you take the Ancients' account as fact & the Goa'uld as lies then the Ancients are correct most likely and all other worlds ALREADY HAD humans on them. Which is it? Am I missing something here? 
        Faris b 09:29, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Humans from Earth? 

message: Quick observation/question: since technically SG-1 is an ongoing series (though that may change soon), shouldn't the infobox image be an image of the current cast? We can move the old cast image elsewhere on the page (and add one of the season 6 cast, since Corin Nemec doesn't appear elsewhere).  Virogtheconq 13:37, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Guess now would be a good time to change it since it was removed for sourcing questions. Morphh 19:41, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The infobox image should really be from the titles of the show like on the Stargate Atlantis page.--NeilEvans 19:50, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox image

message: I dont know what to say other than I have enjoyed watching SG1 and it will be sad to see it go. At least theres still Atlantis. --HeavyAmp 04:08, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You do know that the 200th episode was supposed to be funny. I understand not getting the joke, and not thinking it was funny, but to think that it is evidence that they are "throwing in the towel" is totally absurd. Konman72 06:55, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: No more SG1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

message: Okay folks lets stop crystal balling on the end date.  Yes Sci-fi has not renewed the series.  Doesn't mean its dead, or that the end episode will be shown in July.  Lets keep the article accurate, and not speculate okay?? EnsRedShirt 22:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Besides, it couldn't have last aired in 2007 when it's still 2006. PrometheusX303 22:45, 24 August 2006 (UTC)

text: That probably comes from IMDB, they're listed the last episode air date as somewhere in may, 2007. Don't panic though, remember showtime dropped SG-1 as well, and it only took 2 months for Scifi to pick it up. - 59.167.38.13 01:48, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  End Date 

message: What the hell is wrong with scifi that they're attempting to block MGM from selling the rights of Stargate to another network? Would it happen to be because they KNOW it'll do good and they don't want to loose money? Then why aren't they giving season 11 the go? What's 20 mil a season when you take in the account of the syndication bonuses and DVD sales and such?
Faris b 03:33, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree they're being stupid jerks right now.  Tobyk777 05:18, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scifi - what gives? 

message: Well, even if we did get a season 11, the show is basically driven itself into a wall now, all of the SGC's allies are going to be Ori-fied/killed it seems.
So far:
*Chulak overtaken
*Dakara destroyed - Jaffa nation is fractured
*Langara (Jonas planet) overtaken, which most likely means that Jonas is dead as he would never bow to the Ori
*The advanced Hebridans have been overtaken as well, which means they've been reduced from a society 200 years ahead of Earth to peasants
*This whole easy win "anti-Ori weapon" thing makes it too easy. I mean, what if there was an "easy button" for defeating the Goa'uld from the start?
*The Ori being too unbeatable, I mean a dozen Ha'tak, 2 Daedalus class ships and an Asgard ship couldn't even stratch them, that's too powerful.
*The Sodan destroyed; although, I suspect they were only introduced as a plot device for those few episodes because I'm sure Teal'c would have mentioned them at least by season 7 if they were so "legendary".
*The Jaffa losing Ha'tak like crazy, at my count they've lost about 19 so far (assuming they have about 100 or so) and the fact that a Ha'tak can be taken out with ONE hit is rediculous.
*Earth making 4 ships in 4 years and having 2 of them be destroyed by the SAME enemy in the same year.
*Adria having that shield that can block the Dakara device's energy, it was stated in "Threads" that no shield of any kind would prevent it's effects from working, wasn't it? I know it would have been too soon to kill her but they could have said it was a lookalike or something that got killed, I know, it sounds rediculous too but at least I'm thinking, unlike the writers.
I'm sure there are other things I'm forgetting at the moment but I'm guessing at the end of the season, Earth'll have no allies except the Asgard and possibly the Nox left as everyone else will probably be destroyed.
Tell me, WHY do these stupid writers have to destroy everything when they think the show is going to end/actually ending? Why not end it on a good note (The galaxy is safe and happy, no Goa'uld/Ori/Wraith or anything). Why are they going to have the whole galaxy ravaged except Earth?
And here is what I expect to happen at the end of season 10:
*Earth is out of drones in the Ancient outpost
*Ancient outpost destroyed just like Dakara
*Chulak pulverized
*Number of Jaffa left no more than the number of Tok'ra left
*All Earth allies dead except for the Asgard and possibly Nox
*They won't find the Anti-Ori weapon but yet another stupid clue that leads to a dead end
*Ba'al will remain alive and hiding somewhere (Not that I wan't Ba'al gone but they're going nowhere with that storyline, either make him an Earth Ally or just leave him be)
*Possibly one more Earth ship but it'll probably be destroyed as well.
I mean, think of all the friends Earth made over the past 10 years, now all these folks will be gone, I know most people don't care but I do:
Land of Light people
Cartago (sort of)
Countless other planets with primitives
Cimmeria
K'Tau
Juna
Latona (but they might not be destroyed as they have the Sentinel)
Salish planet (but they might also have some means of defeating the Ori)
The people that were in that dome to protect against the toxic atmosphere (Revisions) they were relocated so they are probably doomed now, they would have at least had half a chance if they were hidden in the dome.
P7J-989 people (with the virtual reality chambers) destroyed
Anyone else have any thoughs?
Not to mention the other potential allies like the Tolen, who could've been a BIG help. Also you might consider the Unas as manpower in fighting the Ori, though i'm not sure how far that'd go.
Plus with the possibility of seeing the Furlings, they too could be wiped out... personally I'd almost be interested in a show similar to star trek's DS9, where we could see beyond the first line of defense / first encounter and deal more with establishing ties with the other worlds.
Faris b 09:48, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think they're going towards a wall.  While most of the stuff  you said is true, the whole point of the current plotline is that devastation is supposed to happen.  Stargate has never had a sad ending.  The writers are going to find some way to kill the Ori and save the galaxy by the end of season ten.  THEY KILLED THE REPLICATORS AND GOA'ULD IN ONE EPISODE.  THEY COULD EASLIY DO THAT WITH THE ORI.  The worse the situation, the better SG-1's final acomplishment of dfeating the Ori will be.  I think they want the situation to seem horrible, so in the finale of season ten, SG-1 won't just go out with a bang, it will be a nuke.  Tobyk777 05:25, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Nothing.  We are having a lagitamate discussion.  I see no problem with talking about something here.  Ignore this guy and feel free to repspond to what I said.  Tobyk777 05:45, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Driving towards a wall