Talk:Montgolfier brothers

message: IMHO we should mention Francesco Lana Terzi, the father of Aeronautics 
http://www.faculty.fairfield.edu/jmac/sj/scientists/lana.htm
User:Jeandré du Toit 00:24 Jan 2007
I was working on the Dutch lemma the other day and gathered some information. I think the French Wikipedia is best informed on the subject, the German Wikipedia is also in trouble on that particular subject, but there is a book by :
* Schama, S. (1989) Citizens. A Chronicle of the French Revolution, p 123-31; 884-5.
Simon Schama writes very literary about the Montgolfier brothers and the balloons, but is using only French sources. His account is very interesting, funny and looks reliable. 
I assume one of the authers, working on this lemma, was using a book in French on the subject, or: 
* Gillispie, C.G. (1983) The Montgolfier brothers and the invention of aviation, 1783-1784 : with a word on the importance of ballooning for the science of heat and the art of building railroads. 	Princeton, N.J, Princeton University Press. 
But Schama does not mention it for some reason, and I have not read it yet. Taksen 08:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Francesco Lana de Terzi]]

message: This page has been seriously vandalized and needs someone to check all the facts and rectify. --Renier Maritz (talk) 09:23, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: This entry contains a description of the work of Jacques Charles, but it does not compare well with the existing entry on this man.  Two things: (i) This article says that JC went into the sky twice on 1 December, but the entry on JC does not mention this.  So which is right?  So can someone more knowledgeable about the subject fix this?  (ii) Slightly more detail (number of people watching; downpour ending the show) about JC's flight is provided in this article than in the article on the man himself.  Unfortunately these details are unsourced, but if verifiable, I think that they should be moved to the JC article. JRGp (talk) 23:00, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Description of the work of Jacques Charles needs work 

message: Why does the picture provided  spell the name without the 't'. Is that just a typo in the image? -AndrewDressel (talk) 17:06, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling of Montgolfier 

message: Etienne became the first human to lift off the earth in a tethered balloon. It occurred sometime in August 1783. A letter from his wife, dated sometime in August 1783, refers to his safe return from the flight. This informaton was not known until approximately 1983 when Gillispie published it in his book "The Montgolfier Brothers and the Invention of Aviation." -  66.235.17.41 19:20, 29 September 2009
:This is an extraordinary claim, that contradicts numerous reliable sources, and so requires an extraordinary reference. The book might do, if we had a page number and a quotation. -AndrewDressel (talk) 12:11, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New amazing claim 

message: In the Early Years section the first paragraph says that Pierre and Anne had sixteen children.  In the second paragraph Joseph is described as the 20th child.
At least one of these is in error
Martin Ross  2009-11-3  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.143.131 (talk) 18:19, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of Children 

message: There seems to be at least a word missing from the first sentence of the Early experiments section: "Of the two brothers, it was Joseph who first contemplated building machines". My guess is that it should read: "Of the two brothers, it was Joseph who first contemplated building flying machines", but I don't have access to the book to check that.  Awien (talk) 13:15, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flying machines? 

message: This section should really be for the following launches made by the Montgolfier brothers, not by competitors.
Instead, looking back at this page after editing it yesterday and subsequent edits by others, it is looking like a vehicle for people desperate to prove the superiority of other technologies; which is a discussion for the [Balloon (aircraft)] pages, not here. These paragraphs would sit better in the history section of that article.
A small discussion of this interesting decade (a 1780's version of iOS/Android ;-) ) would be appropriate in the existing 'Competing Claims' section to lend the article some historical background, but this article should be focussed on the Montgolfier's, at present that focus evaporates halfway through the text. 
EasyTarget (talk) 13:03, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Following Launches 

message: Is there a particular reason why the two brothers' portraits aren't placed side-by-side in this article in one combined Infobox? See, for example, the Wright brothers Good Article. If no one objects, I'll go ahead and make this change.  JGHowes   talk 15:31, 27 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portrait placement 

message: There seems to be a numeric error. The original section reads:
"Other balloons, competing claims
Some claim that the hot air balloon was invented about 3 years earlier by the Brazilian/ Portuguese priest Bartolomeu de Gusmão.[11] A description of his invention was published in 1709? in Vienna, ..."
But if the Montgolfier balloon took of in 1783, it would be quite impossible to talk about another earlier balloon take-off of 1780, in the year 1709. Unless that writer has the rare ability to see the future... :-D  
Means: this year needs to be corrected. 
SvenLittkowski (talk) 00:47, 10 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  1709? 

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message: Should there not be a picture of Joseph-Michel included, instead of two pictures of Jacques-Etienne? I would recommend this image from Wikimedia Commons: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Jos._de_Montgolfier.jpg#globalusage
2600:6C5E:5A80:13F8:40C4:49CF:F24A:E08F (talk) 02:59, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes sense to me. I suggest you be bold and make the change. Awien (talk) 13:14, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture of Joseph-Michel