Talk:List of Oregon state parks

message: There was some discussion somewhere about where to find a complete list of parks. Well, I figured out the other day that I happen to work across the street from Parks and Rec, so today I picked up the 2006-2007 Oregon Parks & Heritage Guide. Thus I can double check the entries if need be. Also, there's a new park opening in June: L.L. "Stub" Stewart State Park. I have the brochure about it. A DYK might be in order--it's "the first full-service park in more than 30 years to join Oregon's state park system." Mr. Stewart needs an article too--something for you politicos to do... Katr67 17:31, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Complete list of parks 

message: For the WikiProject Oregon collaboration of the week, I'll be going by some of the gorge parks.  I'll be sure to stop at a few of them and take photos for an article.  Don't know which ones, though since there are 21 entries, I doubt I'll do too many. :-)  —EncMstr 20:24, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll take Bald Peak. Aboutmovies 20:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll do a short piece on Holman, not sure about images--Polk County closed the place down for Senator Craig-style behavior... I may be able to do a couple others in the Salem area, I need to talk to my hikey and bikey comrades. Katr67 22:30, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  COTW 

message: Several state park articles (Ecola, Fort Stevens and Sunset Beach) redirect to Lewis and Clark National and State Historical Parks where there is very little on the actual state parks. I've always thought the state parks should be broken out from this article, if anybody feels like tackling that and/or is heading for Astoria this weekend. I asked about it on the talk page and no one has stepped up to explain why the articles needed to be redirected. Katr67 22:39, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion 

message: This needs to be added to the list but I'm too lazy to deal with the formatting today. See Shedd, Oregon for more info. Katr67 (talk) 07:32, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thompson's Mills State Heritage Site 

message: There are some listed on  that do not appear on this list:
*Rocky Butte State Scenic Corridor
*Dalton Point State Recreation Site
*McLoughlin State Natural Area
*Bonneville State Scenic Corridor
*Sheridan State Scenic Corridor
*Lang Forest State Scenic Corridor
*Lindsey Creek State Scenic Corridor
*Pengra Access
*Floras Lake State Natural Area
*Port Orford Cedar Forest State Scenic Corridor
*Buena Vista Ocean Wayside
*Yoakum Point State Natural Site
*Neahkanie-Manzanita State Recreation Site
*Rockaway Beach State Recreation Site
*Twin Rocks State Natural Site
*Klamath Falls-Lakeview Forest State Scenic Corridor
*Thompson's Mills State Heritage Site
--NE2 23:50, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have yet to see a single source that comprehensively lists all Oregon State Parks sites - it's kind of maddening. The best I've come across is a printed guide by OPRD, but I know it has holes. Of this list, it only has Thompson's Mills. OAR is a good source, but bear in mind that it's not ideal under Wikipedia guidelines because it's a primary source rather than secondary. This state parks list begs for good footnoting, because of number of different sources that must be relied on. Ipoellet (talk) 07:05, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is the list in , copied to /full list?, a full one (possibly with incorrect names)? --NE2 20:10, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

text: On User:NE2/OR parks I split them by what's on the state parks site and what's not. There are a few missing ones from the .doc, including a few recent additions, a few that may be parts of others, and the Historic Columbia River Highway State Trail. There's also the State Capitol State Park which isn't on our list. --NE2 21:22, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently the grounds of the Oregon State Capitol are now managed as a state park, per http://www.oregon.gov/OPRD/PARKS/state_capitol_park.shtml. I've created a redir. Katr67 (talk) 22:43, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, here's the law creating it:  --NE2 23:04, 17 April 2008 (UTC)

text: "What it boils down to is a big dose of bureaucracy from Salem. State Parks doesn't like something being called a state park if it doesn't meet certain standards. And that makes sense. I wouldn't want someone showing up at Fishing Rock looking for a place to plug in their RV."
--NE2 21:21, 19 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I chatted with a park ranger at Oregon Gardens yesterday and she said that the waysides and such don't really count as state parks. The reason they're under OPRD jurisdiction is that they took over management of the parks from ODOT at some point (late 1980s?), which is why there are so many road-related things on the list... Katr67 (talk) 22:40, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, some of them (like Alderwood State Wayside) have separate pages on the parks department site, so they may be small parks but the OPRD doesn't really consider them differently. --NE2 21:40, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Oooooh! I'd love to hear what you find out, OR or not.  Ipoellet (talk) 21:42, 22 April 2008 (UTC)

text: You should also ask if they have a full list of parks (or land owned/operated by OPRD, or whatever it would be). --NE2 04:22, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to consider the Parks and Heritage Guide, coupled with the website, as the complete list, though I will certainly ask for more information. I looked over the links NE2 provided. The billing code list (which consists of the internal numbers used by state agencies for payroll and procurement purposes) is outdated. It's from 03/06, and I can see one example, Ben & Kay Dorris Park, which has been turned over to county jurisdiction. Though it's difficult to find information on jurisdiction changes and renaming, I'd say the other state documents provided are also out of date. The business of the parks department is to promote the use of its parks. I can see no reason they would want to keep any of their parks secret. The billing codes list does point out that we need an article on the Willamette River Greenway, whose landings are apparently under Parks jurisdiction. Parks is also in charge of promoting the Willamette Valley Scenic Bikeway and there are probably a few other stray non-park things floating around too. Parks seems to be doing a good job these days, they got the Oregon State Fair turned over to them, so other things may get handed over to them. Katr67 (talk) 07:49, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  More parks? 

message: Can anyone get ahold of this book?  --NE2 10:22, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: A book that might be useful

message: So, I just created three stubs (for the Frenchglen Hotel, Deschutes State Scenic Area, and George W. Joseph natural area.) Also created a couple redirects. If there are some kind of standards desired by those who called for this CotW, I'm not aware of them. Can somebody take a look at what I've done, and let me know if I left out anything important? Thanks! -Pete (talk) 23:15, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked at the Deschutes one, and once some more info is added I'll add an infobox. This book has a some history for each park that could probably be added. Note it is via WorldCat via Southern Oregon University, so I don't know if it will always download. Also, it a pretty big file so it takes a little while to download even with a cable modem. Aboutmovies (talk) 23:27, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collaboration of the Week 

message: *http://www.oregonstateparks.org/park_258.php Katr67 (talk) 05:37, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New park 

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