Talk:Redshift/Archive 6

message: Just to continue my evidence that redshift is used in Raman scatting (see my extracts regarding Compton scattering and Brillouin scatting above), here are some specific extracts (my emphasis):
*"A resonant Raman line is shown to cause a redshift of the pulse spectrum" 
*"The effect of Raman self-scattering leads to redshifting of the pulse spectrum" 
*"An equally self-consistent interpretation is that the intervening gassy material PARTIALLY CAUSES the Large Quasar Redshifts via a Non-Doppler (or Non-Space Expansion) Redshift mechanism such as Raman, CREIL, Compton, Plasma or Wolf effects." *
And yet another paper supporting frequency independent Wolf Effect
*Lab Experiments Revealing Non-Doppler Redshifts with Possible Cosmological Applications *
"Laboratory experiments reveal redshifts and broadening of the spectral lines emanating from a mercury discharge [..] The source, the intervening medium, and the detector are stationary [..] [..] The observed relative wavelength shift of the spectral lines (Z) is independent of wavelength similar to the Doppler effect. [..] Possible theoretical interpretations are suggested including "correlation induced wavelength shifts" caused by scattering of the electromagnetic radiation by the medium (Wolf Effects)."
(Those marked * are not peer-reviewed, but conference abstracts)
--Iantresman 21:19, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't been on much after my initial edit and suggestions , but I think the resolution of the scattering problem was done nicely, with the paragraph explaining the different usage and referring the reader elsewhere. Salsb 13:34, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Raman redshifts

message: Joshua, I've put in a request for arbitration on your conduct in this article, and others. I feel that your ignoring the contributions by many of those who took time to contibute to the Request for comments, and many of your other actions, are not compatible with Wikipedia policies and styles --Iantresman 15:45, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ian, a request for arbitrartion is the last resort in the dispute resolution process. You have evidence that RfC or mediation won't work? --ScienceApologist 16:00, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for Arbitration

message: Why not simply "similar? (If the article wasn't now in discussion, I'd have substituted it already). Harald88 23:05, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems fine to me. --ScienceApologist 13:48, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  analogous but not equivalent  

message: I have given here 5 criteria allowing to select a reliable Doppler-like redshift. It is necessary to look at these very simple criteria (which are not new) before a study of a proposed effect.
Here, I answer a question:
Can you help indicate how this might help us categorise Brillouin, Compton, Raman and Rayleigh scattering, the Wolf Effect? I believe that some of these are not a redshift at all (Rayleigh), some shift, but are not Doppler-like (Brillouin, Compton, Raman), and the Wolf effect is usually not Doppler-like, but may be --Iantresman 08:31, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''Improving a criterium of selection of the proposals for Doppler-like redshifts'''