Talk:Valencia CF

message: This article needs a lot of clean up. I wish I could  do it, but I don't have the time and I'm too lazy. First of all, this article is written like a fan page, especially the 70s section. Second, there is a lot of grammar errors and improvement on word quality. Overall, the article has a lot of good information and by revising, this could easily be a featured article. Ricardoread   —Preceding comment was added at 19:58, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: article quality

message: I have removed the list of recent transfers, as Wikipedia is not a news service. Maurimarzal 16:11, 9 September 2006 (GMT)
: Marzal, you should notice that almost all teams articles have that section  Jor70 13:18, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think you should move it back. The transfer list is useful and, furthermore, all the other teams (most of them) have it .Tris2000 12:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As stated by Maurimarzal, Wikipedia is no news source. The transfers have been moved to Valencia CF season 2006-07. Poulsen 23:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Transfers

message: is there any information on the Valencia club colours, or more accurately - their history. Did they start wearing white at home after 1980 for example? And in the early 2000's, I noticed orange was a common colour for them.
Valencia have always worn white shirts as first choice kit though the colour of the shorts and socks has alternated over time (either black or white). Orange is an away shirt that first appeared in the late 80s but has been more used in the last decade. Blue and red/yellow stripes are two other away shirt options.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Senyor Pirotecnic (talk • contribs) 09:45, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  club colours 

message: The club logo of this team is missing. Can someone please insert the logo as quickly as possible? --Siva1979Talk to me 15:56, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you sure this isn't out of date? I do not see the logo anywhere on the club's site besides the history section, it does not appear on the kit, an '07 branding website (not official from the club so really not that much of an argument) shows the bat with some detail but black, the website you mention is not the club's and the logo has a darker bat. Organizations update their logos. Clubs do it here and there. I would love to find better sources that say in writing "THIS IS OFFICIAL" since that would make it much easier. Official mag and documents are close enough. Are these close but slightly different(ie darker and a little less detailed)? Do you have anything we can find through googling since at least a couple editors seem concerned about this inclusion?Cptnono (talk) 07:44, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think if we can find a logo inline with their current branding guidelines it should go in the infobox to represent the team correctly. The historical one is great it just might be better suited in a colours and  badge section. The article should also follow Wikipedia:WikiProject Football/Clubs closer.Cptnono (talk) 02:21, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

text: I was going to. I saw somehting that looked like it was mentioning images (I don't speak Spanish) and when I got a little confused poked around several footy pages. Does that Doesn't look like they use the logos on that Wikipedia.Cptnono (talk) 01:54, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Club logo 

message: Huge Valencia fan and i have added more depth to the history.
:: Who are you? Are you in the UK? The history is very good, by the way. Tris2000 10:13, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revamped

message: The squad numbers section, despite claims in that section, does not show the same data as the offical Valencia site, and the La Liga site.
Silva, for example is set at 10 on here, but 9 on his own page, and 21 on both the official sites.
Arizimendi is 21 on here, and has this on the official Valencia site, but no number on the league site, but has 16 on the squad box at the bottom of his own page.
I guess this needs some clarification, which will only be done when their first game is played, or there is some sort of official announcement
Malcuthrad 15:27, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Numbers 

message: As I know, Edu has Portuguese passport. It is listed in footballers with dual nationality page. If he hadn't that passport, how could he play in England before?
Ario_ManUtd 23:45, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Foreigners

message: The real name of the stadium is "Camp de Mestalla". The alias is written "Els Xes". An ten name is "Ciutat Esportiva de Paterna", not "Ciudad Deportiva..."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.83.83.195 (talk) 10:51, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Els Xes? Rubbish. I'm all for writing Camp de Mestalla in the Valencian language, but you don't see "Xes" anywhere. Look in a local sports paper, eg Superdeporte, and count out how often Xes are used. One of the very few times you see "Xe" written with an X is in the chant "xe que bo", but even so, Google throws up 2,030 references of "xe que bo" versus 6,160 of "che que bo". Some things I am all for writing in Valencian, but "Xe" is not one of them and the fans would tend to agree with that! Or else, how come most Penyes (supporters clubs) of Valencia have "che" in their name rather than "xe"??   In cases like these, one must go with the popular spelling, rather than try and use Valencian grammar to prove an unpopular point.  Tris2000 10:08, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names 

message: Please don't remove this players from the current squad, they are in the team at least until the end of this season.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.7.170.44 (talk) 23:03, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I will tell you why...Because they aren't in te Team  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.232.23.14 (talk) 21:31, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  So...? They are still part of the current squad. Xeron220 (talk) 17:58, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cañizares, Albelda and Angulo 

message: I've combined them with the UEFA Cup results, it's a pre cursor tournament and their is no evidence for official or unofficial sources, it's not a UEFA sanctioned tournament but it doesn't make it unofficial, i didn't think this needed a mass debate, all i did was combine them with the UEFA Cup results, seeing as other Fairs Cup winners on Wikipedia have their articles collated together too. regarding the Fairs Cup (Fadiga09 (talk) 10:28, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fairs Cup

message: regarding Stephen Sunday.
As per many other football articles, where there is a player with dual nationality.
The team pages shows their adopted nationality. ie. Manchester United article shows Evra as French, Arsenal article shows Eduardo as Croatian - the article devoted to the player, not the team explains their original nationality, place of birth etc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eduardo_da_Silva
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arsenal_F.C.#Current_squad
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrice_Evra
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Man_utd#First-team_squad
Sennen goroshi (talk) 03:06, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  nationality 

message: I have removed reference to a waiting list for season tickets as it doesn't exist. Could the person who reinstates it please provide proof if (s)he belives there is one?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Senyor Pirotecnic (talk • contribs) 09:49, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Waiting list 

message: Villarreal may be from the same region but they are not historical rivals of Valencia, there is far more tension in games vs Hercules and Castellon.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Senyor Pirotecnic (talk • contribs) 09:51, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rivals 

message: Renan Brito is now a Valencia CF player his name should be added to the list of players.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.22.156.9 (talk) 04:10, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renan Brito 

message: A few days ago, an IP editor made two edits which removed content from the history and stadium sections with the indication that the removed content exists in exact the same wording at History of Valencia CF and Estadio Mestalla. He was harshly reverted by User:Fadiga09 with the edit summary of "Shut up."
I'd like to point out that the article in its current state is around 100 kB. According to the Wikipedia guideline on article sizes, articles should definitely be split up once they have reached this limit. Since this obviously happened a long time ago, keeping the outsourced content in this article is unnecessary and redundant.
Hence, I have removed the outsourced content from this article again in order to significantly reduce its size AND readability. However, I would propose that someone with better knowledge of the subject provides a very brief summary for the history of this club at this article since this section should not be left with just a link. Hockey-holic (talk) 17:09, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. This info should be moved and replaced with a very brief summary. Fadiga needs to discuss this here instead of reverting. Valenciano (talk) 19:32, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've restored the original content. I would rather content be there than none at all but it needs summarising and vastly shortening. Peanut4 (talk) 21:50, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article length 

message: Valencia is in huge debt and is getting ripped apart and their current financial situaion is barely adressed except for a very faint and unclear sentence. Please put more info about this on the article as it is a defining moment for Valencia. --66.36.140.169 (talk) 04:59, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  £465 million debt not even mentioned! 

message: Can't somebody move this page to Valencia C.F.. This is the correct way to spell it, and it is hideous that a important page like Valencia C.F. is under a page name, that is incorrect!
Can somebody move it?
::I don't know who you are because you didn't sign your comment, so therefore I would normally ignore your comment. HOWEVER, this is just the way we have done all the clubs in Wikipedia. For sure, Valencia C.F. works also, but all the clubs in 2009-10 La Liga have as their default the name without the periods (full stops) between the club-related epithets, with the exception for some reason of Real Madrid.Tris2000 (talk) 10:06, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Page should be moved! 

message: The Home Shirt that appear in the article are a special shirt, only for "special" matches. Normally, they play with the shirt without the bat in the centre.--84.123.113.44 (talk) 12:23, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Home Shirt

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: To remove this sentence: Valencia are the third most supported football club in Spain, behind heavyweights Real Madrid and FC Barcelona.[2]
Because the source [2] since 2007 which is too old. While there is a newer source 2013 with different results. 
http://www.insidespanishfootball.com/86229/real-madrid-named-most-popular-football-club-in-spain/
It can be: Valencia are the fourth most supported football club in Spain.
213.230.30.90 (talk) 06:33, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the info should be removed from the lead altogether or changed to "Valencia are one of the most supported teams in Spain." Saying third or fourth is information which can date quickly. We should mention both the 2013 and 2007 sources in the body of the article. Valenciano (talk) 11:50, 7 April 2015 (UTC)

text: Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. Kharkiv07Talk 11:52, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 7 April 2015 

message: The redirect 2023–24 Valencia CF season has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Steel1943 (talk) 19:11, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
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