Talk:Ballast Key

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Legal Description 16 68 23 EE68316-01 BALLAST KEY LOT 1 UNSURVEYED OR552-850 OR552-852 OR665-376/377 OR1742-1461/70Q/C
Section, Township, Range 16 - 68 - 23
Millage Group 5000
PC Code 01 - SINGLE FAMILY
Building Details
Number of Buildings: 2 Total
Living Area: 3260 sq ft
Land Details:
Land Use Code/Land Area
010W - RES WATERFRONT/5 Acres
000X - ENVIRONMENTALLY SENS/19 Acres
--grejlen - talk 05:36, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: where does all this come from?--Ratzer 13:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What does this mean? Very confusing.

message: I was out boating this past weekend, and the depth chart maps clearly show Sand Key is much farther south than Ballast Key, which claims to be the southernmost point in Florida in this article.  Is it because the land of Sand Key has disappeared a few times from hurricanes?  There's land there now, so shouldn't the Southernmost point in Florida designation go to Sand Key?   Here's a link that clearly shows land is there Sand Key reef aerial.
I see how the article Extreme points of the United States#48 contiguous states says that several sand bars are at least 7 km farther south and exposed at low tide, but this wasn't low tide it was midway between low & high and the sand bar was clearly exposed.  If it is covered at high tide does that exclude it from being considered land?  What if it continues to build up and is exposed even at high tide?  I'm not sure any source exists for this since it seems to change its status with every passing storm.  It seems that if there is land there most of the time then it should be considered land.
Another point - the depth chart on my father's boat (about a year old) has Sand Key marked as a small island and has it filled in yellow just as other islands on the chart are.  This clearly indicates that the map company considers Sand Key to be an island.   -   Marc Averette 16:24, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a definition thing. If it's below the high water mark, it's not considered dry land, no matter if it dries most of the time.--Ratzer 20:08, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why isn't [[Sand Key Light|Sand Key]] considered the southernmost point of land in Florida? 

message: according to U.S. 2000 census of population, Ballast Key is (was) uninhabited. Anyone with newer population figures? Sources? Until then, I take out the "inhabited" from the main article.--Ratzer 20:08, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  who says inhabited? 

message: The real estate reference says 26 acres, the wikipedia article itself adds up to 24 acres (19 plus 5), but the Bureau of the Census figure for the corresponding block says 51,542 m² (which means barely 13 acres), of which 4,741 m² are some inland water body (pond?). Is the real estate company (or the present owner) provide an exaggerated figure, so he can ask for more money? No, I'm not interested in buying the island (well, that is, unless I get it for a tiny fraction of the asking price :-)--Ratzer 13:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: One problem could be that they round the wet + dry acreage before they add them together, amplifying the error of the final acreage.  Another could be that the original acreage was smaller and the owner filled in, added beaches, seawalls, etc.  making the island bigger now than before.  -  Marc Averette 01:25, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: well I zoomed into it on NASA World Wind and measured it: 540 meters north-south, and 70 to 130 meters wide, perhaps 100 on the average. makes 54,000 m², or a little more than 13 acres. The higher figures between 24 and 26 acres are clearly wrong, that much can be gauged from the sat image. I corrected the area figure in the article.--Ratzer 21:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The realtors are advertising the size as double what it is?  Odd that they should be telling an outright lie.  They must be counting the beaches at low tide.  If you look at some of the pictures on the realtor’s website they show some low tide shots where a large amount of land (approximately doubling the size of the isle) is exposed.  Perhaps the realtors color the definitions as to what suits them to get a bigger sale price, or to create the illusion that the buyer is getting a lower price per acre.  -  Marc Averette 22:44, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  now what's the size? 

message: Is it a secret? Thehotelambush (talk) 06:08, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who owns it?