Talk:Cityscape of Lexington, Kentucky

message: In the article: Duke, Jacqueline. "Council backs revived downtown apartment project." 5 June 1985. Herald-Leader [Lexington]. 12 Nov. 2006.
"And last month, the council endorsed a $15 million housing bond issue for the Ben Ali Towers, a 12-story apartment complex to be built above the Ben Ali garage on Main Street."
Has this project been built? I can't recall a 12 story apartment complex of that size along Main Street...  Seicer (talk) (contribs) 22:19, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind. It was never completed.  Seicer (talk) (contribs) 22:31, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ben Ali Towers 

message: "In addition to rampant suburban growth, downtown Lexington is seeing a large building boom, with the revitalization of many historical structures and the construction of many new ones. Several new projects are taking advantage of now-disused tobacco warehouses along the South Broadway corridor. Others are utilizing infill techniques, filling in parking lots and low-density or out-of-character structures."
- The revitalization of historical structures, filling in of parking lots, low density development, etc are all examples of urban infill techniques.  A simple rewording would correct any misinformation, but I wanted to get an opinion first. John Reaves 01:24, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A slight rewording of that would be nice.  Seicer (talk) (contribs) 02:11, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infill 

message: Why the hell is the PNC bank building such a centerpiece of the cityscape section? It's not important in the least bit. I think that may indicate that someone from PNC has been influencing this page. The cityscape needs to begin with the 5th 3rd building and work it's way down. The PNC building that's referenced isn't even the tallest PNC building in the city. No encyclopedia article would ever be written this way.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.177.2.56 (talk) 23:38, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: (Moved to new section at bottom of page.) I think it's fine. The building is given two sentences, which is in line with what other "major structures" get, and it's properly placed within the chronological ordering used in that section. cmadler (talk) 23:18, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Yes, but it's not a major structure. It's eight stories. If you want to include it, there's no reason to exclude the other 10 or 15 eight story structures in the town. If there isn't something of encyclopedic value that sets it apart then it should not be part of the article. 
Timothyjwood (talk) 19:30, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Although it's not really considered a major structure today, I suspect it may have been pretty significant at the time of construction. But perhaps first we should figure out what building we're talking about. The body of the article says, "The PNC Bank Building, an eight story low-rise with gold tinted windows, is located at Vine Street and South Limestone." The photo is identified as "PNC Bank Plaza, Lexington, Kentucky. Completed in 1972, it is an eight-story low-rise building at Vine Street and South Limestone." But the photo is a view from Vine St near Upper, looking SW toward High Street, about a block NW of the location described. cmadler (talk) 12:00, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Yes. You're right. (Google Maps at Limestone and Vine) The building is at upper and not vine. But yes, we are talking about that building and not the new PNC building (formerly National City).
But that's not really the issue. No one has made any case for the encyclopedic value of the inclusion of this building in the article. It may have been significant but that needs to be substantiated and not simply assumed. Furthermore, it is not a major structure by any criteria that I can conjure. It is certainly neither more major nor historic than the first national building, the oldest high rise in the city as far as I am aware. 
Again, it is also not simply that it follows the format of the article, the format is wrong. Compare this to the architecture section for Chicago. First sentence is the most historical high rise, and then it addresses the tallest buildings beginning with the tallest.
I think I've given ample time for any editors to address this issue. Unless someone can satisfy these concerns I am going to take the liberty of fixing the section to be more in line with the cityscape articles on other cities. 
Timothyjwood (talk) 18:26, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: PNC Bank building

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