Talk:Mobbing (animal behavior)

message: I put this under :Category:Birds - is that a good idea, or is it too general? The birds template doesn't have to go of course if the category is removed, but given it's only more common in birds, I'm not too sure that it was the right move. Richard001 09:01, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it goes in birds because the behaviour is seen in more than just birds, it is simply more familiar and more well studied among birds.  I would like to see something about crows, a bird well-studied for mobbing behaviour.  Someone please check context and appropriateness of last two edit I reverted.  Good article, very well done, everyone.  Good idea, Richard.  KP Botany 14:49, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the suggestion. I was asleep while this was DYK but the removal of two sentences related to evolution by an anon seems like either vandalism or bible belt POV pushing. Richard001 07:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: Noticed that there was no mention of game theory in the page, so I added a section and put game theory into the category list.  The connections between game theory and mobbing are deep, so it really warrents the category link IMO.  See what ya'll think.--scorpion451 17:26, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree that this needs to be mentioned in the sense of Evolutionarily stable strategies. But the new material may need to be trimmed to remove what seems like the basic evolution of altruism with selfishness rather than specifically mobbing.  Shyamal 02:06, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the section on humans - it had nothing to do with mobbing predators, which is what mobbing behavior is. Mobbing rivals or cooperating to enhance the chances of finding a partner are not mobbing - chimps form groups and attack each other, and males of some species such as various cetaceans form groups to cooperatively rape females, but it's not classed as mobbing behavior. Richard001 08:18, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, also removed the redundant subsection. It needs a rewrite. Shyamal 08:22, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not against the rewrites on my addition, think they look good (still need some cleaning up though), but the human behavior part does deserve at least a mention.  The part that is most exemplary of mobbing is the wistleblower situation, found an article online specifically referencing that as mobbing behavior, in the "group vs single threat" sense.  Perhaps a blurb in the "other animals" section?  On the renamed "evolution" section I know I tend to get a little verbose, but the current rewrite seems a little too technical, may need some clarification, elaboration.  My intent with the evolution of altruism through self-interest was to highlight the dynamic nature behind the (birds, people, fish, ect.)'s behavior.(ie. what is the evolution behind what would seem a suicidal act by an individual(attacking a larger predator) becoming a benifit when performed in a group.)--Scorpion451 22:41, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I just found some related articles which also need a little more work - Herd behaviour and Flocking (behaviour). The second is something that currently purely about theoretical matters ! Shyamal 01:58, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks for adding the dilution effect, spent twnety minutes trying to find it under marginal risk in economic section. >_< --Scorpion451 02:01, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Game theory connections

message: According to the lead paragraph "mobbing" is, as you would expect, carried out by groups of animals. However, when I challenged another editor who used the term for an attack by a single bird he/she gave me these examples: , , , ,  which suggest that this definition is incomplete. In fact, there is a picture in this article of a single crow mobbing a bald eagle. Any thoughts? Richerman (talk) 00:40, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that solitary individuals can take part in it. "Mobbing" involves recruitment and it often begins with solitary individuals indulging in it. In the case of predator harassment by corvids near their nests, I think "mobbing" is particularly limited to the behaviour of an individual or pair. Shyamal (talk) 02:00, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
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