Talk:Flatiron Building

message: Should the lede image be changed from Image #1 to Image #2? Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:29, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The streetscape is better captured in the second image. Filetime (talk) 21:35, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: There are numerous other images in the article which show the building from street level. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:37, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

text: I'm not quite sure what the purpose of this comment is, aside from muddying the waters and poisoning the well, but Seasider53 has presented some poor research. My edit to add the current image to the article took place on 17 March 2010,  which is more than 11 years ago (which is more than half of Wikipedia's lifetime), so the image has easily established itself as part of the status quo of the article. (The diff offered above which is characterized as "not going over well" wasn't about the lede image, it was about a number of other changes which adversely affected the layout of the article, an issue which was eventually settled.)  Changing the status quo, when it is disputed -- as this change was -- requires a consensus of editors.I will gladly admit to a feeling of WP:STEWARDSHIP about this article, considering that, according to this, I am responsible for 44.1% of the authorship of the article, as well as being the top editor by number of edits and amount of text added.   If you believe that my STEWARDing of the article has become an WP:OWNERSHIP issue, I suggest that you file a report at WP:AN/I, which is the proper venue for such complaints, not here in an RfC about a specific question. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:13, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

text: The view from the street level standpoint, and also doesn't show the top of the building as opposed to image #1. Idealigic (talk) 15:39, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:07, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

text: Thanks, thinking about it, there are many buildings whose individuality is only apparent from a distance, or aerially, or from some pov other than 'upfront upclose street view'. In this case the unique-ness of the building is more apparent in the semi-aerial pic - which incidentally includes illustrating the reason for the name. The sense of scale seems better too. Pincrete (talk) 08:12, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC: Should the lede image be changed? 

message: *No - The replacement image was taken from directly in front of the building.  Because the Flatiron Building is a slim triangular structure, this vantage point does not show it to great advantage.  The current image, on the other end, because it is taken from above and to one side, shows not only the unusual shape of the building (which is one of the reasons for its notability) but clearly shows the design of one side's facade, while still showing the other side sufficiently.  Only the rear of the building on 22nd Street is not seen. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:36, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: [Well, this is a bit silly, but here goes. Move my comment wherever it needs to go. I favour image #2. Don't need to see the top of the building, since we don't see it from the street. It also makes it harder to discern its scale.] - Seasider53 (talk) 21:33, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The streetscape is better captured in the second image. Filetime (talk) 21:35, 18 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: There are numerous other images in the article which show the building from street level. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:37, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

text: I'm not quite sure what the purpose of this comment is, aside from muddying the waters and poisoning the well, but Seasider53 has presented some poor research. My edit to add the current image to the article took place on 17 March 2010,  which is more than 11 years ago (which is more than half of Wikipedia's lifetime), so the image has easily established itself as part of the status quo of the article. (The diff offered above which is characterized as "not going over well" wasn't about the lede image, it was about a number of other changes which adversely affected the layout of the article, an issue which was eventually settled.)  Changing the status quo, when it is disputed -- as this change was -- requires a consensus of editors.I will gladly admit to a feeling of WP:STEWARDSHIP about this article, considering that, according to this, I am responsible for 44.1% of the authorship of the article, as well as being the top editor by number of edits and amount of text added.   If you believe that my STEWARDing of the article has become an WP:OWNERSHIP issue, I suggest that you file a report at WP:AN/I, which is the proper venue for such complaints, not here in an RfC about a specific question. Beyond My Ken (talk) 23:13, 18 June 2021 (UTC)

text: The view from the street level standpoint, and also doesn't show the top of the building as opposed to image #1. Idealigic (talk) 15:39, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, thanks. Beyond My Ken (talk) 21:07, 22 June 2021 (UTC)

text: Thanks, thinking about it, there are many buildings whose individuality is only apparent from a distance, or aerially, or from some pov other than 'upfront upclose street view'. In this case the unique-ness of the building is more apparent in the semi-aerial pic - which incidentally includes illustrating the reason for the name. The sense of scale seems better too. Pincrete (talk) 08:12, 1 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Was Roebling owned by Murder Inc. or was Murder Inc one of the original tenants of the Flatiron Building:
"the Roebling Construction Company, owned by the sons of Tammany Hall boss Richard Croker, and the crime syndicate, Murder, Inc.[9]" And at any rate, the name "Murder Inc." was not invented until 1940.
100.15.127.199 (talk)  — Preceding undated comment added 02:22, 28 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  unclear 

message: This article has a lot of photos but none of them are from a frontal view angle, so I took the initiative and added one to the gallery section, but it got reverted by @Epicgenius. He said that there was already one frontal view photo in the gallery (there's indeed one, but it's from 1903 and is monochrome) and in the infobox (which is an aerial view photo).
The uniqueness of the building comes from its triangular shape, which is very explicit if seen from the northern corner. The majority of people will see the building, precisely from the Fifth Avenue and Broadway intersection with the East 23rd Street, not from the side and must certainly not aerially, so can we please add a street-level frontal view photo?  --SpaceEconomist192 ✐  16:41, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, some poor choices (discussed on this page or a recently archived one) resulted in the current situation. There was a great street-level frontal view that was in the infobox, but the current aerial one was the choice made. Seasider53 (talk) 15:52, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. The suggested photo was much better. --SpaceEconomist192 ✐  16:41, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frontal photo