Talk:Skopje International Airport

message: IATA does not regulate airport names, only their codes. The code of the airport has been SKP since the beginning. The actual name can be changed to whatever by the government at any time and IATA would have nothing to say about it as along as no one applies for a new airport code.
Capricornis (talk) 19:28, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  IATA Name Approval Clarification 

message: Has the name "actually"  been approved by IATA?
Philhellenism 00:37, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NEW NAME

message: http://news.yahoo.com/photo/070113/ids_photos_wl/r2805831339.jpg
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/13012007/46/photo/traffic-sign-skopje-s-airport-renamed-alexsandar-veliki-alexander-great.html
::You are kidding me right? The image you uploaded is official from where? Even if the image exists, that doesn't mean that the IATA/ICAO accepted that name... there is nothing official! And for the image that you uploaded, you deleted all the infos, that of course show that you have no real clue about the image license http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image%3AL2308511.jpg&diff=100749199&oldid=100742507 http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Image:L2308511.jpg&oldid=100742507 is that the official source Somewebsite/no license?
::Even if there is a possibility that to change in the future, the official article name should be "Airport Aleksandar Veliki (Skopje)" and not "Alexander the Great Airport (Skopje)". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sakis79 (talk • contribs) 01:55, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is in English not Macedonian so the name should be Alexander the Great.
Another picture showing "Alexander the Great" http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070116/i/r4067697907.jpg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.165.16.53 (talk) 21:59, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No that's not correct! Wait first to see the name in IATA/ICAO and then we'll see the correct official name! See for example the Kavala International Airport "Megas Alexandros" ("Megas Alexandros"="Alexander the Great"), is the official name with latin characters http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=GR83147&sch=LGKV . When (and if) the change will happen, then the article name should be "Skopje Airport Aleksandar Veliki" (or something like that), just like the Kavala "Megas Alexandros" airport http://worldaerodata.com/wad.cgi?id=GR83147&sch=LGKV . Then inside the article you can write what "Aleksandar Veliki" means. You must write the name in the official IATA/ICAO international form with latin characters, but if the official name will be "Aleksandar Veliki", then that's how the article must be named. Till now the name from IATA/ICAO is "Skopje Airport", if these organizations accept the name to change, then we can use that name! Till then, nothing must change!  --xvvx 23:29, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently this talk page (and the above comment) is taken seriously, with the sign in question being correspondingly updated to show the English and French versions of the name as well :-) Apcbg 11:26, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if they write it in Chinese :-p the point is one... the name that will be used for the article name will be the official accepted name from IATA/ICAO (nothing has changed yet!), till then, they can expand the languages in the sign every time they read the wikipedia article :-) --xvvx 12:33, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You think you're kidding, but I wouldn't be surprised if they did ... Next by extension, 'Thessaloniki' and 'Athens' (parts of that same guy's possessions) would seem like names that could be put to 'commercial' usage too :-) Apcbg 12:47, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The name has changed and the signs are real

message: To all parties involved: The amount of move-warring observed here within the last two weeks, in relation to the ridiculous low volume and quality of debate here on talk, is disgusting. I've move-protected the article again. Please note that move-warring is even more damaging to the encyclopedia than simple revert warring, and any further occurrences (after this protection will have been lifted) will not be tolerated. 
Discuss it, work it out here on talk, and then do a proper requested move when you're agreed. Until then, the page stays where it is. And, in the meantime, would those people who created the mess please clean up the double redirects? Fut.Perf. ☼ 20:03, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move warring 

message: I really don't know how airpors are supposed to be named in WP, but I guess we can easily find examples. For now, we got 3 sources:
*The label photo
*Makfax titled: Skopje's airport to be named "Alexander of Macedonia" (Skopje /26/12/ 18:25)
*Kathimerini saying: The Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) yesterday approved the renaming of the Skopje airport after Alexander the Great in a move Greece said will harm the country’s ties with its neighbors. (December 29, 2006)
I saw Sakis79 argue in an edit summary that a link from IATA or smthng is needed. I have no particular personal preference in the name of the article and wouldn't care if it were move-protected on any "wrong version" as long as the facts are stated. I don't find this article being the ideal place for including details of the dispute, apart
from just mentioning the dispute, and the confusion with Kavala -ie. what is more-or-less already mentioned (In December 2006 the government of the Republic of Macedonia announced plans to rename the airport after Alexander the Great, sparking a renewed diplomatic spat with Greece, which considers Alexander the Great part of its own heritage (see Macedonia naming dispute). The new name is argued to create confusion with the already existing Kavala International Airport, "Megas Alexandros", which lies in the neighboring Greek region of Macedonia.)
I would appreciate if users would start writing detals about the airport itself; rather than about the name. I'd also like to know why tf I have to spend like 6 hours back and forth to go from Athens to Skopje while Greece has 50something% of the investments in the country. (0,5h drive to Athens Airport + 1h wait for flight + 1h flight to Salonika + 1.5h drive to Gevgeli + 1.5h drive to Skopje and same backwards). There used to be a flight by our Olympic Airways which was packed. Now there isn't. Does anybody with a brain to write something more than ALEXANDAR MAKEDONSKI or STRIKE ALEXANDAR MAKEDONSKI have an idea about it? NikoSilver 22:35, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. All these naming debates aer typical examples quarreling over the color of the bikeshed anyway. :-) Fut.Perf. ☼ 00:37, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Niko you have a few options. I'll list them from most to least probable:
#Buy a private jet.
#Get your friends and colleagues to call Olympic and say they want to travel to Skopje.
#Invent the teleport.
#Convince your deputy to vote for a bill in the parliament which will subsidize a flight to Skopje.
  /FunkyFly.talk_  02:39, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You got me! My message was simply "for throwing dust in the eyes" (as the Greek saying goes). I actually don't need any of the above, since it is publicly known that we Epsilonists can FLY!! NikoSilver 11:09, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: Given that the name dispute is mentioned in the article it is highly relevant to mention who and what this Alexander person was. It would be standard in any other article to describe the person after whom something is named so I don't see why this should be an issue here. If some editors feel the information is incorrect they can certainly take it to the relevant articles. Or their government.--Xenovatis (talk) 19:00, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I stand by my earlier statement that its inclusion is non-essential, since any reader can easily click the Alexander the Great link for further information. The naming dispute is already covered in the second paragraph of the lead: "where both countries consider Alexander the Great as part of their own heritage," which seems a fair and neutral way of explaining the situation. The inclusion of your preferred text in in the first sentence breaks the rhythm of the line and seems to be intended to stir up strife with Macedonian editors. From an encyclopedic standpoint, this not acceptable. Kafka Liz (talk) 19:46, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The WP article on Alex manages to state in a neutral way that he was Greek. If the inclusion of this fact, which is related to the dispute since it explains the Greek position on the issue is uncomfortable to some editors that is unfortunate but it shouldn't be used as an excuse to withhold relevant information. To omit the fact that he was greek is to commit the middle ground fallacy because you can't describe the WP:CONTROVERSY if you omit a key fact.--Xenovatis (talk) 20:47, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you really feel that the fact that Alexander was a Greek is relevant and needs to be included, it should be second paragraph where the controversy is described. I have no wish to deny Greeks any part of their ample patrimony, nor to protect Macedonian self-esteem. I worry, though, that the inclusion will lead to further edit warring, and given that this article is about the airport and provides numerous links explaining both the controversy in general and the identity of Alexander the Great, I believe this particular assertion is unnecessary in this context. Kafka Liz (talk) 21:00, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh well fair enough. I won't push this anymore.Take care.--Xenovatis (talk) 21:24, 19 December 2008 (UTC)

text: But it would be worthwhile to see this page mk:Александар III Македонски or this one mk:Св. Кирил и Методиј and consider whether Slavomacedonians are really best served by keeping them in the echo chamber they have created for themselves as opposed to helping them face reality.--Xenovatis (talk) 14:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm afraid I can't read Macedonian, though I am well aware of the problematic nature of the mk:wiki articles. Even if I could participate, I would probably be banned almost immediately. You might find this thread and this involving administrator Future Perfect at Sunrise of interest, as well as the ensuing discussion on FP's mk userpage In any case, my main concern is to try to keep the English language articles stable, neutral and concise. Kafka Liz (talk) 16:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the info. It is very interesting. Take care.--Xenovatis (talk) 16:17, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name dispute issues 

message: The lenght of the runaway has changed to 2950 m.and there is new building: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KB5M0SxCTN8&feature=youtu.be  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.217.13.18 (talk) 22:38, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improvement on the Alexander the Great airport  

message: The taxi price is more expensive than the one written inside the article you can find the prices on the official web site of the Airport http://skp.airports.com.mk/default.aspx?ItemID=384 but this prices are from the airport taxi company, but when it comes to private companies the prices can be even higher than this one because the taxi price in Skopje is changed and it can vary from company to company (it is not a big variable but it is like 2-7 euros, it differs from the neighborhood that you would like to go). Usually will be around 25 euros from the airport to the city center which is like 30km from the airport. Daci92 (talk) 03:27, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taxi price 

message: The airport has been renamed officially into International airport Skopje ("Од 53-тата седница на Владата на РМ: Автопатот „Александар Македонски“ преименуван во „Пријателство“; новото име на аеродромот „Александар Велики“ е „Аеродром Скопје“; усвоена информацијата за потребата од воведување на единствен број за итни повици Е-112"). Certain individuals are preventing the move and the change based on unknown motives. Prevent that and allow factual data to be present on Wikipedia. Macedonicus (talk) 13:41, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: From 06.02.2018 the airport no longer bears the name "Alexander the Great". The name of the article should reflect the new official name of the airport, International Airport Skopje (Zoran Zaev, "Името ќе биде Меѓународен аеродром Скопје.", source). Digital worm (talk) 14:20, 7 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Airport has a new name 

message: According to the website for the airport given in the external link (http://skp.airports.com.mk/default.aspx?ItemID=345) . The English name of the Airport is now Skopje International Airport. I believe it should be given that name.Naraht (talk) 16:01, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current Name 

message: The airport was previously known as 'Petrovec Airport' and 'Skopje "Alexander the Great" Airport'. These two names should be included in the article's first sentence in the same way as it is in the articles on Belgrade Nikola Tesla Airport or Istanbul Atatürk Airport.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 07:42, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Previous names