Talk:Melancholia

message: wikipedia would be better with a page on "melancholy" as it is used contemporarily. should the modern use go on this page or another page? Id like to know the consensus before i begin work on this page that angers somebody. Spencerk 17:58, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: idk 💀 97.121.196.207 (talk) 01:07, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  melancholy 

message: The object in the woodcut is clearly not a truncated cube, as defined in the linked page.  The truncated cube has no pentagonal faces, while the object in the woodcut has many.  It is a symbol of melancholy in art, so I think it would be nice to know the correct name for it.  Cgray4 13:58, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct.  It is a truncated rhombohedron (but not cube, a cube being a special case of a rhombohedron).  I've corrected the text with an external link to a mathematical discussion of the shape.  I found the link and the correct name in the article about the artwork itself. Aleta 20:19, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's an ENGRAVING not a woodcut Johnbod 20:53, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point, even if it was meant as sarcasm.  Wikipedia is an encyclopedia - accuracy matters. Since, according to Melancholia I, much has been written about the solid, apparently there are others who think it important that it was not a truncated cube. Aleta 21:27, 2 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Sarcasm? See a dictionary Johnbod 10:36, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sardonicism, pardon me. Aleta 23:46, 19 January 2007 (UTC)

text: try exasperation   Johnbod 04:00, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Durer's Solid

message: On the name thing, I definitely agree with Spencerk it should be listed under the modern name, although it is worth mentioning that it is derived from another word. Going back to old fashioned terms for stuff makes wikipedia go out of sync.
On the article, I think their is something mayor missing in this article as it states: "It is now generally believed that melancholia was the same phenomenon as what is now called clinical depression." That is a bit harsh, everybody feels melancholic at times, it does not qaulify as a 'clinical depression', it is an emotion. Only when stretced to the extreme it can be called a depression. So jay for the backdrop and a little bit of history but where is the detailed description of (normal) melancholy? Oliver Simon 21:03, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: I corrected the Greek word "μελαγχολία" that had been mistakenly written as "μελανχολία". Anyone interested could check the Lidell-Scott dictionary or some texts: Galenus, De locis affectis libri, 8,193,10; Anonymus Medicus, De alimentis, 75,43; Palladius Medicus, Commentarii in Hippocratis librum sextum, 2,21,13.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.75.20.24 (talk) 
:It was me that made the changes. I couldn't find a source outside of Wikipedia that spelled it the way you did. It doesn't seem that gamma would be the appropriate letter for that. I don't think I've ever seen it used for an "n" sound. --Infosocialist 09:21, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The ni letter is always converted to gamma when it is placed before the following consonants: kappa, gamma, chi. Examples: ἔγκυος < ἐν+κύω (=pregnant); ἐγχέω < ἐν+χέω (=I pour a liquid inside something). Greek is my mother tongue. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.75.251.245 (talk) 14:02, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting. Thanks for that. I'm just learning... And on my own. --Infosocialist 00:14, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek spelling of "melancholia" (μελαγχολία) 

message: It is referred to Ishaq ibn Imran as diagnosing a type of melancholia, but did he use the word 'melancholia', the word 'ḥuzn' as used by Avicenna or some other word? Or was his finding only later classified as melancholia? I unfortunately don't have access to the reference.
The word 'Melancholia' may in ancient times been referring to illnesses with several different labels today, such as clinical lycanthropy and schizophrenia, which this article should of course reflect. But we then need to stay as true as possible to the history and don't make their concepts vaguer than they were. If arabic scholars recognized a mood disorder with symptoms similar to schizophrenia as a separate mood disorder, this in fact has implications for today's debate on the "schizophrenia label". EverGreg (talk) 11:24, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This has now been clarified by Jagged 85's edits on 25th of January 2008. Thanks! :-) EverGreg (talk) 15:16, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ishaq ibn Imran

message: Can someone explain how the etymology is simultaneously Greek and Arabic?
How is that not a contradiction?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.86.37.47 (talk) 19:32, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Under the heading of Treatment is the reference to ECT, which is given its own sub-heading.  However, it is not defined.  Further something appears to be left out, as the flow of the paragraph is disjointed.  Unless I am completely wrong, ECT is the acronym for Electroconvulsive thearapy.  Its usage has neither a clarification of the acronym, nor does it have a reference to the ECT Wikopedia article.  This needs editing. - KitchM (talk) 03:03, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Treatment 

message: At the moment the citations are all messed up as superscripts are being used rather than the proper wikipedia style. This means all the citation numbers are now incorrect. Also the article references ref 1 which is a deadlink. Thanks for taking the time to add citations but please could those who have inserted the references update them to the wikipedia style see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citing_Wikipedia
Thanks. 194.83.139.177 (talk) 15:05, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This appears to be because someone copied and pasted in an entire article, "Resurrecting melancholia" by M. Fink & M. A. Taylor, from the journal "Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica" Volume 115, pages 14–20, February 2007. This text, half the article, has now been removed. - 220.101 talk\Contribs 06:23, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations: What a mess! 

message: This article is a bit weak on the medieval and christian theological discussion of melancholy. We had an unsourced contribution which may have rectified this or may have been a personal opinion. I can't tell but is preserving the contribution below. EverGreg (talk) 17:11, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This would need a discussion of the relation of melancholia and acedia. Brianshapiro (talk) 22:44, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religious melancholy 

message: This article has been edited by a user who is known to have misused sources to unduly promote certain views (see WP:Jagged 85 cleanup). Examination of the sources used by this editor often reveals that the sources have been selectively interpreted or blatantly misrepresented, going beyond any reasonable interpretation of the authors' intent.
Please help by viewing the entry for this article shown at the cleanup page, and check the edits to ensure that any claims are valid, and that any references do in fact verify what is claimed. Tobby72 (talk) 18:42, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The changes in question is the following:  There are two references to check. EverGreg (talk) 08:20, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misuse of sources 

message: I have removed half of this article as it appears to be a direct copy, c/w footnote 'markers' of the article "Resurrecting melancholia" by M. Fink & M. A. Taylor from Acta Psychiatrica Scandinavica  Volume 115, pages 14–20, February 2007. 
* Added 1 May 2009. DIFF
* See CopyVio report - 220.101 talk\Contribs 06:05, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Good catch, thanks. EverGreg (talk) 08:14, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No problemo, I am just very surprised no one picked it up earlier. What I twigged to was the unlinked footnotes, which another editor made into superscripts! - 220.101 talk\Contribs 09:35, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Likely Copyright Violation Removed 

message: This sections appears to reference a psychological state unlike the that of the main article and specially attributes negative psychological causes to reasons specific to a particular religious viewpoint.  The description provided more closely matches the religious topic Dukkha — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thetrek (talk • contribs) 03:16, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
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