Talk:Late Glacial Maximum

message: The whole introduction and times were completely outdated: 
1. In fact there are two temperature minima in the Weichsel/Devensian Last Glacial Period, the first around -72-60 ka, the second around -28 ka CC (cf. any Greenland icecore data).
2. The LGM is slightly following the temperature minima and is currently dated from c. the 240th to 170th century BC. It is followed by the 'Late Glacial from ca. the 170th century to the onset of the Holocene at ca. 9660 BC. Because nobody else was able to read the literature, I now changed the text.HJJHolm (talk) 15:12, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nonsense 

message: The article is still confusing the Late Glacial Maximum with the following Post Late Glacial Maximum, in turn followed by the Late Glacial (=GI1,GS1), which I have not the time to rewrite.HJJHolm (talk) 15:19, 6 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion 

message: It was originally proclaimed that this article is 'nonsense' and the text 'completely biased' as can be seen when comparing the original statement of HJJHolm by going to the history of the talk page but this is not remotely the case as to how this article came to be.  Rather it was aimed to remove the bias + POVSYNTH synth of someone else as can be seen in the top section here on the talk pages relating to Ahrensburg culture and the hypothetical migrations associated with it based on non-aDNA as well as salvage something out of the the Ukrainian LGM Refuge article which was not a sufficient subject in and of itself to really deserve its own article nor appropriately titled for what the original version of this article was discussing.
Hoffecker 2002 defines a period from 13,000 to 10,000 years BP as the 'Late Glacial' - when climates begin to ameliorate on page 33 in his book entitled 'Desolate Landscapes'.  I was assuming good faith in believing that the prior incarnation of the article was referring to a Ukrainian LGM Refuge as 'Late' Glacial Maximum because it was taking the title from what the Semnio et al. 2000 article was discussing out of a weird POVSYNTH maneuver and presenting post-glacial recolonization of Europe by overemphasizing the role of males carrying the M-17 paternal line.  So really what this article was initially focused on, when it was known as the 'Ukrainian LGM Refuge', were events during the 'Late Glacial' and not how things were like in a refuge area somewhere in Mesolithic Ukraine.  Go look at the article history and see for yourself.
So the only thing really required here as far as I can see is to rename this article 'Late Glacial' by simply dropping the 'Maximum'.  Not an entire rewrite.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geog1 (talk • contribs) 23:25, 18 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: No Im afraid its incorrect. 
The Late Glacial Maximum, aka "the Ice Age' occurred from 23-19 ky BP. The Late Glacial is from 14 - 10 kya BP, and it different ecoloigical and cultural entity to the LGM.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 120.17.51.137 (talk) 07:38, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: no you said it doesn't make sense which is different from incorrect.  The content is fine.  The issue here is the title.  It should just be Late Glacial but the matter was confused by someone doing sneaky POV synth trying yo make an article around LGM Refuge concept.  That was incorrect and didn't make any sense.  The only thing wrong here is a naming issue.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Geog1 (talk • contribs) 00:12, 29 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Its not nonsense