Talk:PASOK

message: A quick reading of the article made me ask the following questions:
*Does the article cover the topic completely? 
*Is the article neutral?  It is almost one-sided throughout.
*Is there a section about how very unsocialist PASOK is currently?  Yet it is a "socialist party" implementing austerity and arguably the most "right" government in Greece for years.
*Is there a section about the numerous politcal scandals PASOK is currently involved in?  Absolutely not a single reference.
*Is there a section about the sharp drop in the party's popularity?  Not even a single mention.
*Is the article adaquately referenced?  Hardly any.
Don't these issues need to be dealt with? --Philly boy92 (talk) 11:46, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: They certainly do. The article is thoroughly inadequate and problematic, as are most Greek political articles. I have a barnstar waiting for anyone who makes this mess of an article half-way neutral and comprehensive. Constantine   ✍  17:29, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I would be willing to contribute, although I am not that well informed about the history of PASOK etc. I think that the history section in particular needs to either be moved to History of the Panhellenic Socialist Movement (or History of PASOK), or be shortened as it is currently too long. Obviously it also needs to be very welll-referenced as the topic itself is very sensitive. --Philly boy92 (talk) 19:09, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factual accuracy and neutrality 

message: I'm guessing "The Banker First" is not the real PASOK motto.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.114.232.212 (talk) 04:01, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism? 

message: I call into question the objectivity of this section, especially the clause 'imaginative conspiracy theories.' If anybody can find evidence that PASOK are not indeed subservient to the Troika, I will remove my criticism.
Furthermore, there is no serious attempt at explaining why 2012 saw their support collapse in favour of Syriza.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.49.34.181 (talk) 22:53, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The 'Myths and Reality' section 

message: Can a self-professed Socialist party be called a centre-left party? Surely Left is more accurate?203.184.41.226 (talk) 22:49, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Democratic Socialism is also centre-left. For comparison, we have French Socialist Party, which is also centre-left. The question concerning PASOK is rather, can it be nowadays considered left at all.--Miacek and his crime-fighting dog  (woof!) 06:52, 20 April 2013 (UTC)

text: Can a self-professed pro-austerity party be called a centre-left party? Surely rightist is more accurate? Please keep you amerocentrism to yourself, it has no place on wikipedia. There are all kinds of centre-left Socialist parties in the world.108.131.86.15 (talk) 15:24, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I come back to the original question, can a socialist party be a centre party? If it was a "broad church" party, certainly there could be a centrist wing, but PASOK is a purely socialist party - there is no right wing (i.e. centrist) to the party. Greek politics are not as centrist as in the UK, or how it used to be in the USA. Left and right are more pronounced. PASOK may not be as left wing as Syriza, but that makes Syriza a far left party, leaving PASOK as a left wing party.Royalcourtier (talk) 08:16, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: This, and many parallel discussions on other pages, just illustrate the uselessness of classifying parties on left-right axis on Wikipedia. The left-right axis is always depending on context, in time and place. If the US classifications on left-right politics would be applied to Western Europe, all parties would be seen as leftist (including the French Front National, whose social policies are to the left of the US Democrats). --Soman (talk) 09:52, 5 January 2016 (UTC)

text: Question should be: Where are you getting that PASOK is currently a "socialist" party? Impru20 (talk) 10:21, 5 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Left or centre left 

message: Please change the nameof the article to ELIA which is the new name of PASOK. 688dim (talk) 09:40, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any English language sources on this news? Has there been simply a rename, or a party merger into a larger structure, or an expansion of the Olive Tree (Elia) electoral list?--Autospark (talk) 11:56, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Its an expansion to a larger stracture, including other political parties. With the name ELIA (meaning olive tree!) PASOK took part at the last European parliament elections.688dim (talk) 22:25, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: There is already an article for the Olive Tree (Elia) alliance, should any new information be added to that article instead? I have searched for some English language sources on the situation with PASOK but as yet there doesn't seem to be any, unfortunately.--Autospark (talk) 22:31, 6 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''Elia''' is the new name of PASOK 

message: What is the exact count? It's hard to find in English media, but I'm pretty sure PASOK don't control a resounding majority of the regions like the info box states...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.179.101.231 (talk) 13:47, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regional Councillor Numbers? 

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message: Lega Nord, Fidesz and Liberty Korea Party are examples of political parties with changes in their polticial position that have been listed  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.54.142.32 (talk) 23:20, 22 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: These are all examples of drastic, well-documented shifts in political position that seem to be permanent. In contrast, the shifts in PASOK's position are just normal fluctuations. Ezhao02 (talk) 16:00, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical political position of PASOK