Talk:Ranma Saotome

message: "Using diplomacy, money, or blackmail seems too complicated, or in the last case, dishonourable for his tastes."
That sentence is wrong if your going by the manga. Ranma often tries diplomacy, he tried it with Ryoga, Mouse, the various fiancee's when they are mad at him, Ukyo during his intro, etc... He doesn't use money because no one is interested in it except for Nabiki and he doesn't have a lot (he did give Nabiki money in volume 35/33 VIZ). He has also attempted blackmail in volume 35 he tried to blackmail Nabiki with a letter to Kuno he found in her room that he thought was a love letter to Kuno.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.96.3.38 (talk) 04:58, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Edit: My apologies. I went from memory here, and just checked. While he couldn't break Kumon Ryu's grip, I misremembered the Akari introduction story. Ryoga only gave 1-2 second hugs here and then lets go when he immediately came to his senses. The first time he made Ranma severely hurt, and the second Ranma dropped to the floor, apparently unconscious for at least 20-30 seconds, before coming to. Sorry. Dave (talk) 14:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

text: To add a footnote here. Ryoga's profile does actually include the option that he at the very least is as strong as Ranma, and Ranma's own only sets a lower boundary. We're using what makes most sense, and I consistently remove/reword what I or someone else discover to be wrong. Dave (talk) 14:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: General

message: I notice Ranme has been put in the :Category:LGBT characters in comics category, assumedly because some think his transfromations from male to female and back again classify him as "transexual". But is this really the case? I seem to belive that a character should only be considered "transexual" if they have undergone sex reassignment surgery. Ranma hasn't. It's a curse. Something magical in design. He does not wish for it to happen. He does not experience feelings of wanting to be another gender. He should not be in this category. Unless he is in the category because while "female" he still retains attraction to other females, and thus might be considered "lesbian". But this also is a huuuuge stretch, as Ranma is indeed orginally male and straight. Any one else have some imput on this matter, because I think I'm gonna remove this category. (Animedude 09:51, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a lot of background in this area.  He is most certainly not transsexual, even if every transsexual would enjoy to be "afflicted" with his "curse."  He certainly has a strong male gender-identity (as I recently edited into the article) and as such, is refered to by practically everyone with male pronouns, even when he's in his female form.  "He shows off his female chest," etc.  As such, you're definitely correct, he should not apply as appropriate for the LGBT category.  He is neither homosexual, bisexual, nor is he transsexual, as he has a consistent gender-identity and body. --Puellanivis 20:38, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if something is a curse or not dpends on the nature of the recipient. To a heterosexual man with a strongly and proudly male identity it would be. To someone who feels greatly out of place in his/her gender it would likely be a blessing. Dave 18:10, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's why I put the words afflicted and curse in quotes. --Puellanivis 02:38, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: LGBT?

message: There's plenty of fancruft and repetitive information that you can find on other caracter pages in this article, can someone work on this? I'm working on the pantyhose Taro, Rogue and other bios, so I don't have the time to do it now.Facer 00:18, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fancruft

message: This article was assessed as A-Class however there was no concensus reached anyway, it has not passed a peer review and does not even have any references. I have assessed it properly as B-Class. --Squilibob 05:39, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A-Class article

message: *Excuse me, but I was wondering if I could add a list and description of all of Ranma's disguises or aliases like, Yoiko Hibiki, Ranko Tendo, Ryoga's fake fiancee, Cu (of the Cupid sisters), and etc. Xer 05:01, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ranma's Alter Ego's

message: If anyone is willing to research for the profile pages, I've set up characterisation reference pages in my sandbox section: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:David_A for all the neccessary 'chapter-by-chapter' notes. Dave 18:45, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference footnotes

message: This article is currently sitting at 45k, and that's getting awfully long for a single character article.  I would seriously consider a review to see what is necessary as this is starting to suffer from bloat.  Refer to Wikipedia:Article size. Derekloffin 16:57, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ditto to that. We could always begin with cutting away the redundant rival section, and more blatantly unsourced statements and columns. Dave 18:12, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

text: The rivals section should focus on those particular characters' relationships with Ranma and why they're adverse to him.  Their abilities and techniques are already addressed in detail elsewhere.  --BrokenSphere 23:31, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Getting long 

message: In looking at this, it seems that the specific info re. Mousse's 2nd and 3rd fights with Ranma can be taken out and the entry still reads fine, for the sake of brevity and trying to overall trim the article length.  --BrokenSphere 18:41, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I tend to agree.  Rival stuff here should be in broad terms.  Specifics can be handled on that character's main page. Derekloffin 18:52, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm. I actually think the entry reads pretty fine, and it isn't particularly long. I'm not sure how to shorten it down without cutting into related sentences. Dave 19:25, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I've made an attempt. Is this ok? Dave 19:28, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Cut it down and tightened it up.  If something along these lines works, we can try and apply it as much as possible to the other rivals.  --BrokenSphere 20:39, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I suppose that works, although I fixed the last sentence. However, I'm not sure about cutting the rest much. Ryoga's section is all relevant to their rather complex relationship, rather than reverting to stereotype, and the rest are short as it is. Dave 20:49, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mousse entry in rivals section

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Ranma2.jpg

message: "Shi-Shi Hokodan" was never a technique created to clear out cave-ins, or to help blow tunnels through the earth. That's "Bakusai Tenketsu".
"Shi-Shi Hokodan" is a technique that allows the user to concentrate his/her depression and anger into his/her chi. (Which is stronger if the user is more depressed.) BrianGo28 (talk) 12:51, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. In its introduction story it was said to have been created as a supplement to the Bakusai Tenketsu, and used to clear out the rubble the former creates. It was used to clear out a cave-in when Ryoga was introduced to it, and he blew a tunnel through the earth Ranma was standing on, when the latter first encountered it. Dave (talk) 13:32, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've read the Korean version of the manga, so anything I say might be a little different from the English version, but I'm sure it won't be a problem. And the Korean version is probobly the most simmilar to the origanal(Jappenese). As I recall (and I've just checked it) that funny man with a saftey hat said that Ryoga would need a stronger attack to get out of the tunnel, but he didn't say why it was created. And Ryoga said that "unlike 'Bakusai Tenketsu', 'Shi-Shi Hokodan' is used to attack people too". And about that tunnel... I don't remember seeing any tunnel when Ryoga was first seen using it. Is this from the Anime? I haven't watched that yet.... BrianGo28 (talk) 23:34, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's in the manga too.  He appears by blasting a hole to the surface, and Ranma happens to be there to see it, and then Ryoga uses it on Ranma.  As to what is said, the engineer doesn't say it was made for that purpose, only that Ryoga will need it to get out. Ryoga is the one that draws the conclusion that it was created for that purpose.  However, in the translation he does say 'Perhaps' so I do think it is fair to say that it isn't a for sure thing, but Ryoga is talking like this is what he was told.  It's in vol 20, page 18. Derekloffin (talk) 00:31, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: All right then. I had forgotten about this for a while but I've just remembered it. I'm going to delete the part that says it was created to "clear out cave-ins, or to blow tunnels through the earth". Please don't change it back again. Ryoga usually uses it for fighting instead of breaking rock anyway.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by BrianGo28 (talk • contribs) 04:20, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oh please...(About Shi-Shi Hokodan) 

message: "Ranma apparently has little respect for authority figures, such as his father, his teacher Hinako Ninomiya, or Principal Kuno."
I agree this discription should stay in but it does to a point neglect to mentiosn Ranma's apparent respectfulness towards Soun Tendo, Kasumi Tendo, and his mother Nodoka. Perhaps it should be edited to say little respect for certain authority figures such as Happosai for instance. Just a thought. 216.201.48.26 (talk) 03:42, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. He's always respectful to Soun for giving him room and board. Perhaps "little respect for obnoxious, pushy, and/or bad authority figures" would be better? Dave (talk) 21:36, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It really has to do with how he is treated by some of the above-mentioned.  BrokenSphereMsg me 17:10, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Well, Hinako does take her job seriously, and Ranma's been known to fight her even when she's honestly trying to help him, so it's probably not so much because they're dishonourable, but because they challenge his pride/are seen as pushy and/or challenging. Another note against using "dishonourable" is that technically speaking even Happosai fights fairer than he does, as do most of his opponents (excepting Mousse a few times) and Genma about even, as the one who taught him this approach. Dave (talk) 12:08, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Personality

message: Some of the references in this article are so bad that they may refer to multiple sources. Volume and chapter numbers are not enough for references. -- allen四names 03:24, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ambiguous references