Talk:The Blue Angel

message: I was thinking of creating a redirect page to here at "Die Blaue Engel". Is that an acceptable "mistaken spelling"? I know I was unclear about the gender while looking for the page. Salvar 19:53, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure. I don't see an appropriate category at :Category:Redirect templates. You might want to create a template for "redirect from wrong grammatical gender". - Jmabel | Talk 19:02, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hmm... I don't know how to do that. I'll just create a redirect for now. Salvar 21:26, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's 'Der Blaue Engel'  -  the masculine 'Der' refers to the establishment, not the notional angel. Valetude (talk) 10:21, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect? 

message: I don't think (Un-)Ratt committed suicide, he just was very depressed and confused that night (the same of the cabaret scandal). And if I don't remember bad one of his hand was seized to the table -- though I saw Der Blaue Engel fifty times, this was a decade ago. --Zzzzzzus 19:54, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suicide 

message: First, I saw the English-language version of this film in a German Cinema course and I think I remember my (German) professor say that the English and German versions of the movie had different endings. It would be helpful if someone could confirm this and write both plotlines in the article. (Looking online I see that the main story may have stayed the same, but there were subtleties that didn't make it to the American version -- if you're registered with IMDB look here: ).
Second, the link in the article to The Blue Angel redirects to Blue Angel, which is a disambiguation page including Der blaue Engel, which obviously links directly to this article, and The Blue Angel (1930 movie) which redirects here also.
It seems to me someone who knows should (if the above is true) include both storylines, or how the two films differed; and get rid of the link to The Blue Angel, or follow whatever is the usual procedure in cases such as this (with redirected, circular linking).Gaagaagiw 07:20, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A couple things on plot and links 

message: Can Lola be considered a femme fatale ? If so, we should mention it in the article. I would say so: her seductive power causes the fall of an established man, a typical "femme fatale" scenario. Do you agree or disagree ? Thanks ! Nicolas1981 (talk) 12:16, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Femme fatale ? 

message: The article states that action happens in "pre-World War I Germany". As a calendar is shown in the film, advancing from 1925 to 1929, I think we should change the wording to "post-World War I Germany" or to "pre-World War II Germany". 
201.254.119.32 (talk) 02:26, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "pre-World War I Germany" dating is wrong 

message: HEARMYLUSTYwhispers 00:14, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: "Clenching"? My arse! 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I presume the titles given here are the ones given to the corresponding songs in the English-language version. They're mostly not translations. In particular "Kinder, heut' abend, da such' ich mir was aus" means something like "Children, I'm choosing something this evening", not "A Man, Just a Regular Man". Hairy Dude (talk) 14:15, 26 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: as well as the german/austrian word "fesch" in the song "Die fesche Lola" doesn't mean "naughty" but "fashionable" or being attractive/nice/friendly. I don't know if those translations given in the article are used in english versions of the film, but if not, they need to get fixed. 84.166.247.127 (talk) 09:42, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Song titles 

message: While it is technically correct that The Blue Angel features a melody from Mozart's Magic Flute, the version prominently used in the film is a recording of the famous Carillon of the Garrison Church in Potsdam (source, in German). The Carillon played a somewhat simplified version of Mozart's aria, which was used in Germany as melody for a poem by Ludwig Christoph Heinrich Hölty named “Üb' immer Treu und Redlichkeit”. The song and its lyrics symbolized the “Prussian values” loyalty, honesty, and faithfulness (to God) -- which are in stark contrast to Professor Rath's moral descent.--Kernpanik (talk) 23:22, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mozart tune 

message: Is that review "in a box" really necessary? Wikipedia isn't a magazine. I don't see why that text can't be incorporated into the main body of the "reception" section. There's absolutely no reason for Wikipedia articles to conform to some vacuous, asinine magazine editor's idea of "aesthetics" with regards to layout. As far as I'm concerned, it looks stupid, and not encyclopaedic in any way. 1.157.95.133 (talk) 05:11, 3 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Review in a box 

message: The lead calls this a comedy-drama, but the Themes and analysis section says this is Sternberg's "least humorous" film.  --  Pete Best Beatles (talk) 01:56, 4 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comedy-drama? 

message: According to The Blue Angel in Multiple-Language Versions: The Inner Thighs of Miss Dietrich by Patrice Petro in Dietrich icon edited by Gerd Gemünden and Mary Desjardins https://archive.org/details/dietrichicon0000unse/page/140/mode/2up and the appendix of The Blue Angel (Der Blaue Engel) by S.S. Prawer https://archive.org/details/blueangelbfifilm00sspr/page/72/mode/2up there were several versions in both languages. Maybe the article should mention that.
Until I edited it "the latter [English] version was thought lost for many years" appeared in the article. I added what info I've been able to find about its discovery but haven't found any earlier mention online about it having been thought lost, nor when or where it was found. Mcljlm (talk) 03:22, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  German and English versions