Talk:For the Fallen

message: The article states that the original poem used "contemn". The article For the Fallen however states that it does not, and that it was a typographical error. Communisthamster 20:53, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Early discussion

message: How is that the text is reporduced here? Surely it is still under copyright? ROxBo (talk) 07:40, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Works published before 1923 are not in copyright anywhere in the world. This poem is not in copyright. 71.173.81.247 (talk) 22:42, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright

message: I feel that this page ought to be merged with Act of Remembrance, keeping the 'Ode of Remembrance' title, due to the extent to which their content is shared. What does everyone else think? EdwardRussell (talk) 14:10, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 'Act of Remembrance' page 

message: The introduction section to this page is very long. Can anyone see a way of splitting some of it off into its own section? EdwardRussell (talk) 14:11, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Layout 

message: I am sure 'England' in the final line is not used in other Commonwealth countries. What are the local variants?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.173.163 (talk) 16:49, 19 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The second stanza listed here is actually the fourth stanza of the complete poem - and yes, it is the one "usually recited" pretty much everywhere, although occasionally they recite one or two of the other stanzas as well (usually the third and/or the fifth - i.e. the ones included here). --Soundofmusicals (talk) 11:50, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Versions for Commonwealth countries 

message: "At the going down of the sun and in the morning,
We will remember them".
I have noticed when this passage is read at Rememberance Day, most people in recent years place emphasis on "will". Thus turning it into an command, as if it were "we SHALL remember them"
This is I think not what Binyon intended; he is saying that thoughts of them will haunt us automatically at those times. When written (1914),
the phrase "lest we forget" would make little sense amid massive losses, and a general sentiment more like "How will the world ever be able to forget?"122.57.152.168 (talk) 11:30, 26 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "We WILL remember them" 

message: Would it be relevant to note that UK Class 91 express passenger electric locomotive 9 11 11 (note the significance of the number) has been decorated in World War 1 illustrations as part of the centenary commemorations, and has been named 'For the Fallen'? It will be kept in it's memorial livery and the name (other locos undergo name changes after a while) and has been shortlisted for preservation at the National Railway Museum when it is retired in a few year's time - so there will be a lasting connection to the Ode.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Andywebby (talk • contribs) 18:45, 5 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  'For the fallen' - Class 91 locomotive 

message: I may well be missing the point, but shouldn't this article make clear that it is generally just the 4th stanza which is used in remembrance "events"?
Debate about history and wording is interesting, but seems to ignore the aspect most would be familiar with.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.132.225.55 (talk) 19:00, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The 4th stanza and its special connections are far from "ignored" (but see next topic) --Soundofmusicals (talk) 21:36, 27 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "We will remember them" 

message: Haven't had much luck with Wikipedia edits, so offering here in case someone thinks it worth adding. 
Roald Dahl's extraordinary collection "Over to You: Ten Stories of Flyers and Flying" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Over_to_You:_Ten_Stories_of_Flyers_and_Flying) has a moving story called "They Shall Not Grow Old."
Cteno (talk) 16:22, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition to "Other uses in popular culture" section? 

message: The poem is out of copyright - which means we can reproduce it in full - but it would be misleading and rude, if not actually illegal, to reproduce words other than Binyon's originals, no matter how often they creep into recitations. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 22:15, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if it were not policy is to reproduce literal quotes "literally".--Soundofmusicals (talk) 22:17, 29 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original words