Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Psychoactive and Recreational Drugs/Archive 1

message: The project template and stub could use a pic.  Please edit/discuss these templates as necessary!
imo, we should generally use the already existing drug templates for everything there is one for.  Pending discussion, templates for entheogens and plant etc carriers should be created; but first we should determine what new templates might be necessary and/or helpful.   --Heah 22:35, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: We may want to reorganize the general hallucinogens template to encompass more than the tryptamines, lysergamides, and phenethylamines; perhaps this should wait until we have a better worked out categorization system and (if applicable) a more accurate umbrella term.   --Heah 22:46, 6 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  stub and templates 

message: I propose that we remove the "and Related Topics" from the name of this project, so that the name becomes "Hallucinogens and entheogens". The current name is (by my taste) too long. Also, every WikiProject by default should concern itself with topics related to its name, so it is redundant to put "related topics" in the name of the project. By the way, I believe project names should follow the general naming conventions of Wikipedia, which say that only the first word should be capitalised (besides proper names, of course). Aenar 00:15, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: for some reason i just saw this now.  sounds good to me, feel free to go ahead and change it.  I also feel it is too long, but wasn't quite sure of what a fitting name would be.  --Heah (talk) 05:11, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of WikiProject 

message: Recently I was editing dimethyltryptamine, and I wasn't sure if "ayahuasca" and "yopo" should begin with an uppercase letter.  Looking at the articles ayahuasca and yopo (as well as vilca and probably others) I noticed that these articles are inconsistent in capitalising their subject. Therefore we should decide if these words should be spelled with an uppercase or a lowercase letter so that we can use these words in a consistent way. I think all lowercase is the better choice, but the most important thing for me is consistency (i.e. that we make a decision). Aenar 00:29, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalisation 

message: It has been brought to my attention that :Image:B caapi dried.jpg and :Image:B caapi.jpg require copyright verification, or they will be removed.  I must admit that when I originally uploaded them I was rather new and I am now not sure where I obtained the images.  Would anyone here be willing to devote a few minutes to chasing down these photos, verifying the status and making the correction?  Of course just replacing those two might be appropriate as well.   — FJ | <FONT COLOR=#808080>hello</FONT> 02:27, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
:i´ll be spending the next month  in the jungle and can bring back replacement images, if need be . . .      its too bad, i have no idea how to verify  copyright info, and i really like that pic that you put up.  --Heah (talk) 17:28, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Banisteriopsis caapi images 

message: so i'm actually finally going to be without internet access for the next month or so, and i just wanted to say that the recent work looks great.  perhaps a name change of the umbrella cat and the project is due, in line with the recent main article change?  --Heah (talk) 21:52, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed the umbrella cat. I think we need to rework the "herbal and fungal" category, perhaps split them, "Herbal psychoactives" and "Fungal psychoactives"? Btw, have a great trip (er...vacation) and thanks for all the work you've put into this. Whig 23:22, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  leaving, names 

message: :Hello there, I was just wondering about how could I join in this Porject.
I am Highly interested in the subject, and would like to help out expand Wikipedia's Information. I dont know if I can be much use when it comes to getting the information(my main sources for Info. on this specific subject are Wikipedia and Erowid), but I have been regarded a telented writer and, If that dosn't work, I am a native speaker of Spanish and have learnt Italian. Just wondering about any chances of getting involved.Good bye. MeDP.
I just added my name and started editting articles, though I haven't had time to do much yet. I don't know if that's proper form but no one has told me otherwise yet. If you need a place to start I think Trip sitter could use some expansion. Kit 04:12, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Joining the Project

message: I just finished rewriting and expanding the Trip sitter article. Also, the article now features footnotes. Especially since this is my first article for the Project, I would love your feedback or suggestions here or on Talk:Trip sitter. Kit 03:56, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: wow.  keep up the good work.  --Heah (talk) 06:03, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Great job! Erasurehead 08:57, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Trip sitter]] 

message: There appears to be a bit of a dispute ocurring in Talk:Ecstasy (drug). An RfC has been posted to the appropriate page, and when I noticed that I thought someone should post a notice here in case project members wish to get involved. Kit 01:42, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ecstasy Dispute 

message: According to Wikipedia:Disambiguation pages with links, one of the top disambiguation pages being linked to is drugs. I think it would be serving the aims of this project to help clarify the pages that link to drugs by changing them instead to link to recreational drug use, drug of abuse, psychedelic drug, medication, or another more appropriate page. For example, I recently clarified links on Aldous Huxley and Practices of Jehovah's Witnesses. You can see the pages that link to drug at Special:Whatlinkshere/Drug.
Unless there is any objection, I will shortly add this to the to-do list on the main project page. Kit 23:40, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: due to changes in article names (eg hallucinogen -> psychedelics, etc) we also have a lot of pages linking to redirects.  that should go on the to-do list as well.  --Heah (talk) 02:22, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drug disambiguation 

message: just made a to-do template, which can be found here:   please feel encouraged to edit it for content and aesthetics.  --Heah (talk) 22:26, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  to do list 

message: someone moved the syrian rue article to harmal some time back, and at the time i deferred and let it happen rather than create a conflict.  but i really think it should be moved back- 9,300 hits for harmal -tell vs 55,000 for "Syrian rue" on google.   personally i have never heard it called harmal, and it doesn't seem to be the dominant term.  harmal talk is here.  --Heah (talk) 22:54, 31 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  harmal -> syrian rue 

message: Is one still needed? If I were to make one, what should I try to make it look like? Should I make it more on the neater, professional, wikipedia-like side, or very psychedelic, trippy, sort of 60's-ish? --69.251.125.187 21:36, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think a picture for the template would be neat. Maybe you could do a little of both -- a professional looking icon colored in psychedelic colors. Kit 23:48, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:   What do you think I should make the dimensions? - Xer0X 12:24, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:    yeah, some sort of combination sounds good.  i'm not sure how one could make an icon representative of this project without drawing from trippy psychedelia.  little mushrooms are nice.  don't worry about dimensions; i think aprox 30 px by 30 px is standard, but the size of the pic will be part of the template code, so it can be any size in reality and then it will be displayed however big we want it to be displayed.  --Heah (talk) 20:49, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:     Alright, I'll try to get to work, when I finish I'll ask you guys for a second opinion :) - Xer0X 21:25, 8 November 2005 (UTC)

text: I created
 as cropped version for possible use in the template. What do people think? I haven't learned table formatting well enough to make a mockup, but maybe someone else can? Ithink it may need to be shrunk more by wikipedia. 
XerOX, thanks for your original. I think a version of the full size picture could perhaps be used on the main project page, but I think it would have to take up less disk space. The one you made is too large in my opinion for use as it stands. Thanks for creating this cool image though, with a bit more compression or tweaking it should be quite useful. Kit 07:41, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

text: On further thought, maybe we could use a sort of banner version on the main page? You could crop out the top half of the page and put the text over the half with the images, if that makes sense. Kit 08:14, 9 November 2005 (UTC)

text: I like it. - Xer0X 20:28, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project template picture? 

message: Should 3-quinuclidinyl benzilate be added to the Deliriants template? I know it's from Atropine but I dont think the atropine page links to it? I dunno, I guess I'm not very good at editing on Wikipedia :*( - Xer0X 13:20, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, got it :D - Xer0X 22:17, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  BZ in Deliriants (anticholinergic hallucinogens) template? 

message: It seems that this may have been forgotten in the list.  I am quite sure (personal experience) that it is a hallucinogen and have found that it is noted at many other sources around the internet and in a few pharmacology resources (adverse side effects...  Hearing voices, Hallucinations, etc...)  I wouldnt know if it would be right to put it on there but I think it deserves its own. 
WilliePete 18:36, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's there, right in the Deliriants template i think. - Xer0X 20:37, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diphenhydramine Hydrochloride as an Anticholinergic Hallucinogen/Psychedelic  

message: IMHO there should be a template for Psychedelic Tryptamine Carriers. Anyone agree? - Xer0X 22:16, 10 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Psychedelic tryptamine carriers, which a few of i believe are Psilocybe Semilanceae, P. Cubensis, and a bunch of other Psilocybe mushrooms. - Xer0X 12:26, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template for Tryptamine Carriers? 

message: many of these pages are riddled with sections like "famous users" etc, and except for the Mescaline page, there seems to be virtually no effort made to verify any of them.  I'd like to propose that all persons in such sections are removed to the talk page until a reference is cited, as is done in the mescaline article.  I haven't compiled a list of pages with this sort of a section, but i can.  the unverifiability of List_of_notable_people_who_have_commented_on_the_LSD_experience is part of the reason it has been afd'd.  --Heah (talk) 23:36, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Verifiability guideline proposal

message: While working on drug disambiguation and hallucinogen redirect fixes, I discovered we also need to work on fixing redirects from psychoactive to psychoactive drug. Additionally, some things which link to psychedelic should link to psychedelic drugs or psychedelics, dissociatives and deliriants. Kit 15:24, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New wikilink-related tasks 

message: Hey folks. So the :Category:Hallucinogen_researchers%2C_users%2C_and_proponents seems to be a rather hodgepodge mix of people. There are a ton of people who do reasearch into psychedelics but who are neither users nor proponents. Similarly there are probably billions of users (if marijuana is included) who are neither researchers or proponents. Few of the people listed are all three, and most of the people listed in that category are definitely not.  The title of the category seems to imply that, in order to be a member of that category, you are all three. Could this perhaps be split into two categories:
*:Category:Psychedelic researchers
*:Category:Psychedelic advocates and proponents
Semiconscious · talk 22:28, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Given the resurgence in serious psychedelic research it would be good to have a separate category. It would also help when it comes time to write psychedelic research. Kit 22:45, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: the project categorization talk page has some stuff on there i've suggested about this, to little response.  (maybe people just don't have that on their talk page?) I set up the category originally because it was needed, but only spent about 15 minutes filling it out before Thoric (i believe) objected for essentially the reasons above, so i stopped and it's just kinda been sitting since then.  I like your idea semiconscious.  Also need some way to categorize organizations.  And the research category would be good too, Kit, i've actually been thinking about that a lot lately but haven't been editing much other than random spurts of new page patrolling.  --Heah talk 23:57, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Category:Hallucinogen_researchers%2C_users%2C_and_proponents

message: Since this project covers cultural aspects of drug use, I was wondering whether it might not be appropriate to create a new subcategory, :Category:Drug culture or perhaps something more specific? This could encompass slang like psychonaut or bad trip, jargon like entheogens, cultural events like Burning Man and Eeyore's Birthday Party, and that kind of thing. What do others thing? Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 12:28, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ahh I see it exists but is tragically under utilized. Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 12:29, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And on reflection I think it needs some further subcategories under :Category:Drug Culture such as :Category:Drug terminology and slang and :Category: Drug-related cultural events. Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 12:32, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Sounds good, i've added some subcats.  --Heah talk 01:30, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drug culture category? 

message: Have we considered adding a category to our template, such as the one used by WikiProject films in Template:FilmsWikiProject?Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 14:38, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: hmm, not a bad idea . . .  --Heah talk 22:43, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done! It shows among other things that we need to tag more articles with our template. :) Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 04:27, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template category? 

message: If you would like to have this on your userpage, just add  to your userpage, and the box at right will appear on it. Also, if used in your user space, the page will be listed on :Category:Pro-cannabis Wikipedians. If you would like to share it with someone else, type 
Also, consider weighing in on the Wikipedia:Userbox policy poll.
Stand up and be counted while you still can,
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replies: text: Can you explain the benefit to Wikipedia or cannabis legalization of having this kind of banner on your Userpage? Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 04:54, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Pro-cannabis userbox

message: See Talk:Machine Elves for my proposal to move Machine Elves to Machine elf. Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 04:50, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move [[Machine Elves]] to [[Machine elf]] 

message: I am sure you will all agree that Heah is deserving of a Barnstar both for creating this fine project and his numerous contributions to its chosen topic. So I gave him one. :) Kit O'Connell (Todfox: user / talk / contribs) 05:12, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barnstar for [[User:Heah]] 

message: Hi, I'm a member of the Wikipedia:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing using these criteria, and we are looking for A-class, B-class, and Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Can you recommend any suitable articles? Please post your suggestions here. Cheers, Shanel 20:34, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles for the Wikipedia 1.0 project

message: I'm trying to add photos for the research chemical stubs. The DEA's Microgram Bulletins are quite helpful in provide PD images.
Somebody might want to come and help me add more info to the articles as well, please.
Miserlou 19:18, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  DEA Photos 

message: Hi there,
I've started a Marijuana wiki (aka The Sticky Wiki) which I think you might be interested in. I'm hoping you can help me get started with this project. Whereas lots of articles about weed get speedy-deleted on Wikipedia, they would be totally cool over at MarijuanaWiki. But really I want the site to be more of a marijuana community than merely an encyclopedia. 
To give you an example, I want to have city guides about where to score, find pot-friendly cafes, marijuana events, and what represents a good price in that city. Etc. (You can check out the featured article: "Toronto" to see what I mean). Of course, I want to see articles about the negative health effects and the drug laws in each of the countries. I also want to have grow diaries and marijuana blogs. All in all, basically more communal than encyclopedic.
I am in need of admins/moderators, and people experienced with MediaWiki to help build policy, categories, and templates, etc. If you'd be interested in helping me with this project, the URL is MarijuanaWiki
Thanks for your time and consideration. Hope to see you there!
-- nsandwich 00:32, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a good idea, but why not try expanding wikipedia before we go hopping off to other sites? --Neur0X 20:13, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marijuana Wiki 

message: I've added the merge tags into these articles. 
<BR>I just wanted to let you all know, because this seems to be your area of interest and expertise. ... ColtsScore 00:56, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to merge [[Amish clip]] into [[Roach clip]] 

message: just letting you guys know, this is Xer0X, i got a new account because some idiot was trying to blackmail me. anyway, i'm back on wp with my new account. --Neur0X 17:09, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  im back 

message: these are in the ext. links sect. in almost every drug page, thanks to User:Meco. Most of the links have no direct relation, as well as not having a very reliable stance, and it collides with 1.3.9 on WP:External Links. it is a blog site and news site, and is not a significant source of information. meco's contrib page. please remove these if you see them, and if anyone has any other thoughts or thinks im wrong on this feel free to jump in.--Neur0X .talk 03:28, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alcohol and Drugs Society links 

message: I'd just like to draw your attention to :Bubble hash and :Bubblehash, though you would do better to look at the talk page and/or the article history. Some sort of claim to patent is being made at the first article and the second reads just like an ad. --Alf melmac 21:16, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bubble hash 

message: A featured article review has been begun for Project MKULTRA. See Wikipedia:Featured article review/Project MKULTRA. Andrew Levine 00:56, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured Article Review for Project MKULTRA 

message: Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory.  This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.  B2T2 00:18, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project directory 

message: As per WP:MOS#Serial_commas, using a serial comma in the name of this project would reduce confusion regarding the number and relationship of the three terms.  I would support a rename to Wikipedia:WikiProject Psychedelics, Dissociatives, and Deliriants. -- Bovineone 03:14, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming and serial commas 

message: Hi all - I have a question about the image in this template. It seems to be an Amanita pantherina or an Amanita phalloides - neither of these are hallucinogenic, as far as I know - but are simply poisonous. Maybe it should be changed to a psilocybe? Debivort 18:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Amanita pantherina contains pantherine which is the same as muscimol, the active hallucinogenic compound of Amanita muscaria.  --Thoric 02:29, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Still, do you think this is the most appropriate image? It sure seems like a psilocybe would be more appropriate. I'd be happy to make a new image if that's the concern. Debivort 04:17, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally I think a more "appropriate" image would be a little more inclusive... i.e. contain a small grouping of a few items... maybe one from each category, so therefore perhaps a peyote cactus to represent the psychedelics, either an amanita muscaria or salvia divinorum plant to represent the dissociatives, and then a member of the nightshade family to represent the deliriants (i.e. a datura flower or seedpod).  I think I could imagine a nice little image having a peyote button on the left, an amanita muscaria in the middle, and a datura "thorn apple" seedpod on the right... but will leave that up to the artist ;)  --Thoric 21:46, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  image choice 

message: Beginning cross-post.
:See Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team#Stablepedia. If you wish to comment, please comment there. ★TWO YEARS OF MESSEDROCKER★ 03:47, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stablepedia 

message: I don't know if this is the correct place to bring this up, but I think it is right.  I am a participant in the chemicals wikiproject, and as such, have many (I try to achieve all) chemical compounds on my watchlist.  This includes many drugs.  For the compounds that fall under this very wikiproject, I see a list of 'street names' on each.  That as such is a good thing, It is valuable information.  The trouble is, I see many edits that either add names or remove names, and I guess there is no way of checking these.  I have now done a revert on ketamine, where first two names were added, and later two others removed by an anon, without any explanation, for all I know, it might be vandalism.  Is there a way to check this hard to verify information?  Alterations look very random, and very vandal-prone at the moment (maybe even POV).  Cheers!  --Dirk Beetstra T C 10:37, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Street names 

message: What would be the proper categries to place on events that cater to subjects, speakers and entertainment related to altered states of consciousness and methods used to attain them, etc, and organizations that sponsor such events? I would like to ask someone to place whatever appropriate categories there are on the Association for Consciousness Exploration, Starwood Festival, and WinterStar Symposium articles. Thanks in advance. Rosencomet 18:15, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Categories for events

message: Hi, I previously created the image currently used for the project, and i think that it doesn't quite... get the point across, if one know's what i mean. I've created what is in my opinion a much more fitting image for the project. 
So I propose to replace the old image with this one. Your thoughts?--Neur0X .talk 21:20, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Again I ask. Does anyone prefer this image to the current image for the project? It seems like a lot of people in the project just have there names on the list of the main page and aren't doing anything at all to actually aid the project as a whole. --Neur0tikX .talk 18:00, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Image for the project 

message: LSD has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.
Sandy (Talk) 20:53, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: LSD FAR

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention.  Badbilltucker 18:16, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: This article is factually inaccurate, according to a letter to the editor. We need quick, quick action now. See the talk page for details.  --  Zanimum 19:49, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Salvinorin A]] 

message: I know other projects rate their articles and display a nice chart. Is there any way to do this at least on the articles listed here?  --x1987x(talk) 20:38, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Ratings? 

message: WikiProject Fungi has just decided on Amanita muscaria as one of this month's collaboration articles. The goal is to bring it up to Feature Article quality, then submit it for Peer Review and Feature Article candidacy. If anybody here is interested in helping out, feel welcome. Peter G Werner 03:58, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Fungi|WikiProject Fungi]] collaboration article: [[Amanita muscaria]] 

message: Should Tenacious D be in this? Tenacious D Fans (talk) 18:06, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tenacious D 

message: Last month, they had a review of LSD's FA status. It got owned, mainly because it doesn't cite sources as well as it should, and because it has a bit too much spam. We should work on refining the citations to get it back up to FA status. Jolb 03:12, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  LSD is no longer featured 

message: Hi there! 'Tis me, the guy who attempted to clean up the Psychedelics, dissociatives and deliriants page a while ago, and was pleasantly surprised that his scribblings were allowed to stand. I decided back then that it was a better idea to polish the style of the article while leaving the categories as they were, but now that it's apparently up for grabs, let me throw in my two cents. (If you think it's too long, feel free to move the whole mess elsewhere. I don't know what the custom is.)
I very much dislike the word "entheogen" as applied to any particular class of drugs. It seems to me that the word is a perfectly good one, but it should be used for any psychoactive substance when used in the context of religious and/or spiritual practice. Thus, when an atheist drops acid with no purpose but having fun, it's not an entheogen, and when a catholic priest sips a tablespoon's worth of sour wine during mass, it is an entheogen. Similarly, tea as used in some Buddhist traditions is an entheogen, whereas tea in most other contexts likely isn't. Any other definition would imply a particular theoretical view about the relation between psychedelics and religion, and while I sympathize with some of the theoretical views that link psychedelics and religion, you shouldn't assume your conclusions. (It has been rumored, by the way, by McKenna at least, that "entheogen" was coined by Wasson partially out of a desire to disassociate himself from the hippies. But I still think it's a fine word when properly used.)
Next is psychotomimetic, which in my view is right out. Shulgin admits to having used it in the titles of papers, but just in order to get papers published. The reason I mention it at all is that it should cause us to assume that any use by a renowned authority of a particular term, especially in mainstream publications, might not coincide with their preference as much as with that of some editor's. 
"Psychedelic" gets 6590 citations on scholar.google.com, but only 1630 in "recent articles" (that is since 2002). "Hallucinogen" gets 4040 in total, but 1080 in "recent articles." This roughly suggests that in the scientific literature, there is a historical preference for "psychedelic", but "hallucinogen" has been gaining ground. Most importantly, it suggests that counting citations on scholar.google isn't going to give a very decisive answer, and it definitely isn't going to tell us whether the two are competing words describing the same thing, or words used by the same authors to describe different things.
In favor of "hallucinogens", I would like to cite:
* D.E. Nichols. "Hallucinogens." Pharmacology & Therapeutics (2004) 101:131.  (an awesomely comprehensive paper, by the way; the bibliography boggles the mind)
* Griffiths RR, Richards WA, McCann U, Jesse R. "Psilocybin can occasion mystical-type experiences having substantial and sustained personal meaning and spiritual significance." Psychopharmacology (2006). (this paper was very well received and the first after many years to seriously investigate the spiritual dimension of psychedelics—but it uses the word not once, and sticks to "hallucinogens" studiously".)
*The book "Hallucinogens, a reader" with contributions by Grob, McKenna, Hofmann, Metzner, Strassman, et al. 
Shulgin & Shulgin, who we cannot very well suspect of pandering to journal editors or funders given their age and situation, do not like the word. The TIHKAL glossary says:
:HALLUCINOGENS, n. A misleading and inaccurate synonym for psychedelic drugs.
Terence McKenna, though, an independent if there ever was one, uses "hallucinogens" all through Food of the Gods.
Summary so far: it's a big mess. Different authors use different words, even ones that I'm pretty sure know each other personally and communicate a lot (like Nichols and Shulgin). But there is one thing that I find no evidence for whatsoever, and that is the view that "hallucinogens" would be commonly used as an umbrella term to include psychedelics, dissociatives, and deliriants. It's an interesting proposal, but it does not reflect any sort of consensus outside of Wikipedia. Furthermore, it leaves the entactogens/empathogens (MDMA) hanging in mid-air, being clearly part of the family, but not quite belonging to any of the three branches.
My advice? Give up on trying to come up with a definitive taxonomy. Have an article on hallucinogens, psychedelics, dissociatives, deliriants, empathogens, and all that, but rate common usage over etymological correctness, however irksome it may feel, and call the thing "hallucinogens." Accept the fact that people's definitions range from "acts on 5HT2A receptors in ways that make rats think they got DOB" to "banned in the US but not addictive" to "feels kinda like acid." Don't spend too much space in the article (it's too long already) on explaining the classification, have a separate article on the psychedelic naming mess, and state in each separate article what classes any given drug is commonly thought to be in. (In other words, stop worrying and learn to love folksonomies.) Sjeng 17:19, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While it is agreed that "hallucinogen" is the blanket term used by the legal system for all of these substances, and is also the blanket term used by Terence Mckenna among others as you mention, "hallucinogen" implies characteristics which some substances under this blanket do not scientifically impart (i.e. MDMA).  Therefore we named the article after slightly more specific groupings to describe the three main areas of these substances legally labeled as hallucinogens.  Essentially the word hallucinogen carries the POV of the DEA.  --Thoric 00:26, 18 February 2007 (UTC)

text: "Deliriants" are grouped under "dissociatives", not "dissociative anesthetics".  Deliriants do produce effects which can be described as dissociative, yet distinctive enough to be of their own category.  --Thoric 23:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: A little essay on the naming question, as sollicited on [[Talk:Psychedelics%2C_dissociatives_and_deliriants]]

message: I was looking at other WikiProjects and many of them seem to use an importance scale, like Template:Importance legend. You think we should do this? Jolb 05:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we start doing an importance scale? 

message: Does anyone support we change the article name of Vilca to Anadenanthera colubrina and the article name of Yopo to Anadenanthera peregrina?  I've rarely (if ever) seen the trees referred to as Vilca or Yopo unless someone was directly talking about the snuff.  I think the articles should focus on the trees, and then what they are used for instead of talking about what they are used for and then info about the trees... if that makes sense.  I'm in the process of outlining a big edit focusing on Bufotenin, Bufo alvarius, Bufo, Yopo and Vilca, and it just doesn't seem right to have the articles titled "Yopo" and Vilca."  Any thoughts? — Old american century 22:25, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, well if you view User:Old american century/To do you can see the changes I plan on making and citations for things.  I'm too swamped with work to do the edit, especially trying to discern what information should go where (because it all is very interconnected).  If anyone wants to work on the pages, view my User page, I don't plan on taking the information down anytime soon. —Old american century 01:20, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved Vilca to Anadenanthera colubrina, fixed double redirects, and added the Yopo --> Anadenanthera peregrina move to Wikipedia:Requested moves.  I figured a month was long enough to leave this discussion open, especially considering there aren't very many active members in this WikiProject. --'oac' (old american century) | Talk 04:43, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I finished working on the bufotenin article.  I think it could serve as an example of what articles in this project should look like. --'oac' (old american century) | Talk 21:49, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Anadenanthera genus

message: Basically, I propose to split up Psychedelic mushroom and part of Psilocybe, and merge the psilocybin mushroom-related sections into Psilocybin mushroom (Psilocybin would remain a separate article) and the Amanita muscaria-related info into Amanita muscaria. Psychedelic mushroom would be a disambiguation page.
Discuss at Talk:Psychedelic mushroom. Peter G Werner 05:32, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal for reorginization of [[Psychedelic mushroom]], [[Psilocybe]], and [[Amanita muscaria]]

message: Hi, all. Some time ago, I created a new image for which to replace the current project image with. Problem being, I never got around to really formally getting the group's thoughts on the matter. On the left I've posted both project images appropriately. The current project image in use is cropped, and if the proposed image is elected for use, I will make any modifications. So, I've put up the proposal on the project's main page, where you can post your signature under the category which you support, along with any comments/suggestions you have.
Thanks.--Neur0tikX .talk 19:16, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal: Replacement of the Project image 

message: Does anybody know of a definitive list of the compounds in PiHKAL and TiHKAL that were actually first synthesized by Shulgin? He doesn't always mention in those books whether he was the first to synthesize a compound, but many articles make unsourced claims to this effect. For example, in Trimethoxyamphetamine: "Several TMAs were first synthesized by the chemist Alexander Shulgin". If some were first synthesized by others, which ones were they and who made them first? It might be cool to put together an article or list on Shulgin-invented compounds from the journal articles referenced in the Shulgin article.--Eloil 18:43, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  compounds invented by Shulgin 

message: Hey all, just putting it out there, I've edited the project template up a bit to use parser functions, the list of functions and parameters that can be used are listed on the template page itself. Thanks.≈Neur0X→∞← 18:30, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project template parameters 

message: Template: has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. — meco 22:56, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
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