Talk:Joseph Szigeti

message: This article sucks. You can help Wikipedia (and Szigeti) by adding more information, fixing bad style and grammar, and generally cleaning it up. :) Sorry for the sloppiness, but this was all I could do! K. Lastochka 19:03, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: older entries

message: I endorse the removal of the "under construction" template--I put it there when I was working on it, but then real life took over, I was off-wiki for a while, and I forgot about the template. I really will finish this article soon.....K. Lásztocska 18:04, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  annoying template 

message: We say she was of Russian parentage, and that info appears elsewhere on the web, yet her surname looks more like Polish or Czech.  The female counterpart of the Russian surname Ostrovsky is Ostrovskaya (or, in German transliteration, Ostrowskaja).   Anybody know for sure?  --  JackofOz 08:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know, it's a Polish name. However, according to Szigeti himself in his own memoirs, she was Russian. K. Lásztocska 14:17, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wanda Ostrowska

message: I don't think it's ready for FAC.  (dont take it personally) This is a biography of the man, not just his legacy or significance to music.   I would expect his family and personal life be covered more as many people researching him would be slightly disappointed at this point.  
The lead is just a little too fawning and bare - it seems there is missing a concise statement as to why he has achieved the notoriety he did.  The verbiage (if you ignore the specifics like "violin" and "Hungarian") could be equally applicable to many musicians.  I think its fair game to mention Bartók and Stokowski in the lead as they are known to the English-speaking masses, at least those with a modicum of education or culture. (you don't want to bore the pants off your audience)(I suppose that depends on the audience)
Early life - very well presented - only some trimming needed, and the prodigy paragraph needs a reference.  Also what is meant by "the Academy"?  Is it Hubay's studio?
Im going to just stop right here.  I get carried away sometimes doing this and it all seems overwhelming in the end and the one thing you should know is that this page is well written and on its way to FAC.  Right now I have to give something else the right-of-way. István 16:50, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: snap review

message: Grove has 19 Feb as his date of death.  Did the New York Times give the 20th as the date of death, or was that the date the obituary ran? Antandrus  (talk) 04:30, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yikes. Yikes yikes yikes. You're totally right, it was the 19th. Thanks for catching that one, that's an utter howler...K. Lásztocskatalk 04:52, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're welcome.  :)  Good article!  Antandrus  (talk) 05:19, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Items as I find them

message: I took the liberty of editing the references in part. I listed the references that are cited several times in the text in a final section on references, and introduced them only by name and page/chapter in the Notes section. This is what is generally used, and I think it is for the best: when you mention a reference by its full name in the first citation and by name and page in subsequent citation, you may make it very hard for editors to move parts of the text around, or may end up with a mess (for example, editors may forget to change the references accordingly when moving text or adding more from a source, which means that the full name of the reference in a citation may end after the shortened form in another citation). It is also much easier to follow. Dahn (talk) 23:03, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, your work is much appreciated. I'm horrible with MoS stuff... :) K. Lásztocskatalk 04:15, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't mention it. I'm glad I added my small contribution to a superb article. Dahn (talk) 08:53, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: References format

message: According to the "Zsido Lexikon" (Jewish Lexicon, 1929)(Hung., under:  ), Szigeti was born on 2 September in Sighet (Maramarossziget), Transsylvania and not in Budapest. The sources in this Wikipedia article are probably taken from Szigeti´s autobiography (1947), which is unfortunately not always reliable. Another "mistake" is the statement that his Jewish name was "Singer"; his Jewish name was actually "Schachter", see: .  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jejugi (talk • contribs) 21:46, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The second source comes from so many unidentified sources  - how do you know it is accurate?  What date is it supposed to refer to - 1939?  I didn't think Szigeti was living in Sighet then.Parkwells (talk) 20:51, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

text: Szigeti is my family. That's the reason why I know that the source  is correct. The source's author does not claim that he is referring to the year 1939. Szigeti is a cousin of my grandmother. According to her, Szigeti never kept contact with the family. That explains a lot. Anyway, he had at least one brother, Samu Schachter (also figuring in the same source) who was a pianist. Szigeti had other renowned musicians as cousins: e.g. Marcell Gal (born Gottlieb) who was the first violinist in the Bucharest philharmonic orchestra, often giving solo concerts especially in the 30-ies. He died in the Holocaust.Jejugi (talk) 23:33, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect birthday date and birth place, etc.? 

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thread_title:  Main page appearance 

message: The "word" concertizing appears in the lead, and is therefore due to appear on the Main Page tomorrow.  At best it is an Americanism, so contrary to WP:VNE, at worst possibly the ugliest example I have ever seen of the neologistic tendency to turn a noun into a verb so that it can be turned into another noun.  Does it have any real linguistic or semantic advantage over the much simpler His performances at that time were primarily... or His concerts at that time were primarily... ?  As it is, it makes my eyes bleed, and I am unhappificated saddened by the prospect of its appearance on the Main Page. I have changed the lead to my "performance" example: that word is considered good enough to appear 7 times in the body of the article, where concertizize and its derivatives are happily absent. Kevin McE (talk) 07:21, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Congratulations, you've achieved a great victory. Florestanová (talk) 01:18, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  ouch 

message: Is the CAPS used in the References section necessary? --Another Believer (Talk) 00:36, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization 

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message: Many years ago I read in the liner notes to one or another of Szigeti's recordings that his tuberculosis caused the permanent partial collapse of one of his lungs, and after his recovery, he had to hold his violin and bow at an unusual angle. Might anyone have any further information about this? Milkunderwood (talk) 07:05, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops - duplicated below; I had forgotten this older post. Milkunderwood (talk) 09:44, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illness and new beginnings 

message: I just readded the infobox to this article. It is a helpful and beneficial addition to this featured article and in no way goes against our guidelines or policies. Wikipedia:WikiProject Classical music/Style guidelines#Biographical infoboxes is no longer a prohibition against such infoboxes, although the most powerful editors in the WikiProject still seek to needlessly eliminate infoboxes from all classical music biographies. ThemFromSpace 01:41, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: In any case, I think that there is no requirement for an infobox for FAs. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:52, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: And conversely some of the most powerful editors in the WikiProject still seek to needlessly add infoboxes to all classical music biographies. - SchroCat (talk) 19:07, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox 

message: One of the most interesting piece of information I expected to find here was a (so far non existent) list - as comprehensive as possible - of Szigeti recordings. This would be really interesting and useful. Ptyxs (talk) 08:22, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  A list of recordings 

message: I have read, but no longer have any idea where - surely in one or another CD insert or LP jacket notes - that Szigeti did not make a "full" recovery from his tuberculosis, but suffered a permanently partially-collapsed lung; and that it was this condition that forced him to hold his violin and bow in an awkward position. If this is correct, surely it ought to be verifiable somewhere. 
::CD Biddulph Recordings LAB 070-71 (C)&(P)1993, enclosed booklet: "Program notes by Bill Newman":
::*"Szigeti's poor health directly affected his technique. He had contracted tuberculosis in 1913 and moved to Davos, Switzerland, in order to take a cure. In those days the standard if rather drastic treatment was to collapse a lung. Even afterwards the resulting weakness in Szigeti's arm muscles forced him to adopt a distinctive arched posture holding his elbows clamped close to his sides, leading some commentators to suggest that he looked like someone playing the violin in a telephone booth. Then, sadly, late in life, diabetes took over, and he developed a tremulous impairment of tone. The power and vision of Szigeti's interpretations however remained unaltered as comparisons of his early, middle and late recordings prove."
::Milkunderwood (talk) 21:55, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Szigeti held the bow in an old-fashioned way..." 

message: Szigeti appeared in the 1944 film Hollywood Canteen where he played "Die Biene (The Bee), Op.13 No.9"
(1856) by François Schubert. He also played "Souvenir" (1906) by Frantisek Drdla as a duet with the violin playing comedian Jack Benny. MBG 58.105.56.0 (talk) 11:08, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Hollywood Canteen]]

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message: I'm reviewing this for the FA sweeps going on at WP:URFA/2020.  There are three things concerning with this one related to the featured article criteria.  First, there is substantial uncited text in various places, and second, we are relying very heavily on the subject's biography.  Lastly, the reception section overuses lengthy direct quotes.  This article will likely need a featured article review if these issues are not addressed. Hog Farm  Talk 06:25, 5 March 2021 (UTC)
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