Talk:African philosophy

message: I think a lot of confusion and stumbling over words could be saved on this page by simply mentioning the African Diasporahttp://www.africanphilosophy.com/statement.htm as central topic of African philosophy and adding some context with regards to racism and colonialism. Right now it reads like the work of a bemused late 19th century anthropologist. It's high handed, contemptuous and totally unacceptable. futurebird 04:03, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article misses the point 

message: From the section on Sub-Saharan Africa:
We start with yet another distinction: that between philosophers and philosophy. Paulin J. Hountondji has argued that, without a written language: “thousands of Socrates could never have given birth to Greek philosophy... so thousands of philosophers without written works could never have given birth to an African philosophy”
I don't know if it makes sense to lead with this when Sub-Saharan Africa has had written language since at least 800 AD. We just don't know how to read it and much of it has been destroyed. Or, at least, this objection could be added. futurebird 06:04, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  without a written language? 

message: Once again a bunch or racist reassertions. Am What happened to Ethiopia? And Songhai and Sokoto thinkers, Uthman Dan fodio ? The thing about racist assumptions is they are so locked in themselves that they miss facts staring them in the face, lame runarounds skipping all kinds of tradition and written works because still they say "no script in Africa" what the h"ll is Ge'ez then?--Halaqah 01:58, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Race card needed and valid here

message: Why is monism listed in the "see also" section? The only mention of Africa in the monism article is a mutula "see also" back to this article. So some editor apparently thinks they are related, but neither article gives any indication of the nature of that relation. - Jmabel | Talk 04:13, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monism 

message: There is at least one example of a pre-modern sub-Saharan philosopher in Omoregbe's sense
What does that mean? U searched the whole world and found a "pre-modern Sub-Saharan philips.." Wow but does he speaks goodie English too, and can he say his name? wow! like i said i am watching this page and when i return it gun git cleanz up. Yes masa i am gonna clean it up.--Halaqah 02:41, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If that was intended to communicate anything other than that you don't like the article (I don't think much of it either), it went by me without registering. - Jmabel | Talk 20:20, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I have added some references. I have also added a link to a site with a large bibliography showing that there is a lot of stuff missing here. Also, there might be a lot of pre-modern philosophical writing from Ethiopia (Ge'ez). Ány expert around here? There is definitely a lot of philosophical work in African Islamic philosophy from the time of the university of Timbuktu etc. But instead of lamenting about the article, let us just work on improving it. Nannus 20:31, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Is this page a JOKE!

message: Do you think this page should be a part of WP:AFRO, the wikiproject for the African Diaspora? futurebird 21:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  African Diaspora? 

message: The article contains the Template:PanAfrican. I had changed this template because it is very badly designed. On the template's talk page, I had written the following:
This Template is very badly designed. I came here from the page on African Philosophy, on which the template is included. The template contains some links relevant to African philosophy, like, e.g. a link to Cheikh Anta Diop. Since the main contains a link to the article about him already, ther is no need to have a second reference in the template. On the other hand, the template contains links to articles irrelevant to the topic of African Philosophy. There should not be, for example, a link from the African Philosophy article to the Kwanzaa article since Kwanzaa is neither an African thing (it is a part of Afroamerican culture, not of African culture) nor is it a philosophical topic. So why should this link be there. The informativeness of Wikipedia depends to a great deal on the relevance of the links. So for each article containing this template, the links are either redundant because they should be in the main article already or they are irrelevant. As a result, all of these links should be removed from the template. If these things are relevant for panafricanism, the should be referenced from the panafricanism artilce and that would be enough. Therefore, I have removed all of these links from the template. This template in its current form is a prime example of what a template should not be. Please note that this is a structural argument, saying nothing about the value of panafricanism. It would apply as well to any other template of this type.
I had than deleted those links from the template. However, somebody reverted my change, so all those links are back. I suppose that most of these links do not belong in the African Philosophy article. Consequently, I am going to delete this template from the article. I think such templates destroy the structore of wikipedia by creating irrelevant links. Nannus 17:19, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template:PanAfrican 

message: The first modern Course on African Philosophy was taught in Canada by Marcus Garvey in 1937. In 2001, students of African philosophy updated this course by adding a timeline of African philosophy: through antiquity, the classical period, and the contemporary period. Each of these three periods list the philosopher, the school of thought they're associated with, the language that they wrote their original philosophies in,as well as and the philosophical problems of that given era. These results were published in an academic journal called Imhotep Magazine in a special issue entitled 'On African Philosophy", edited by  Theophile Obenga. To say the least, African Philosophy is a highly active field of research around the world, older documents are often recovered and new philosophers and ideas are added to the time line.  
There's also a book in English: "African Philosophy: The Pharoanic Period. 2800BC-330AD"
So for those adept Wikipedians interested in writing an accurate statement on African Philosophy on Wikipedia, let us correspond, as I am a bit new to  Wikipedia but I do have access to vital resources on african philosophy, primary and secondary, useful to this project. Otherwise, what is gathered so far on Wikipedia in regards to African Philosophy is a crude attempt at best.~~
Seqoyah bey 10:49, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment: On African Philosophy

message: :African philosophy is any philosophy done by Africans or by people of African descent, or others engaged in the realm of African philosophy.
Is it really meaningful to say that "African philosophy is any philosophy done by [people] engaged in the realm of African philosophy"? seems pretty circular to me.
65.213.77.129 (talk) 18:10, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Very true, the article is sub-standard. --Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ (talk) 09:05, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Circularity? 

message: This article needs an expert, it isnt even an article. I dont know this topic but I know it is poor.--Halqh حَلَقَة הלכהሐላቃህ (talk) 09:05, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And it's a mass of copyright violations as well.  EEng (talk) 23:22, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Very poor, poor did I say poor standard

message: The section on pre-modern African philosophy needs to be entirely re-written, if not deleted. Someone attempts to demonstrate that there were "philosophers" (in the hopelessly broad definition being used) by appealing to the fact that honour and hubris were discussed in the Iliad. It's a blatant non-sequitur. Furthermore, the philosophers who are mentioned in this section are either Islamic philosophers or (bizarrely) Augustine of Hippo. Islamic philosophy is an area unto itself which doesn't need to be discussed here, and the only mentioned link between Augustine and Africa is that he happened to write something while in (North) Africa.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.104.213.13 (talk) 20:26, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Pre-Modern Section

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message: How did philosophy start in Africa?  Kristice (talk) 14:31, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  The origin of African philosophy