Talk:Riding shotgun

message: The rules of shotgun are varied among different social groups.  There are probably thousands of variations.  But they have evolved to promote civility in allocating a scarce resource (the front seat).  
One variation is that you cannot call “shotgun” until you have left the building.  IE you cannot call “shotgun” as soon as the ignition is off but rather have to wait until you have run your errand and have left the front door of the building.  However usually only the driver has to hear it to confirm not everyone in the party.  
There are also rule regarding the number of times one person can ride shotgun in a row.  Usually two or three times are the limit (formal and informal).  It is common courtesy to surrender shotgun in this circumstance even if you have the legal right to "shotgun". However this is up to the discretion of the person owning the rights and sometimes is not enforced due to large age disparity or much lower social standing of those in the back seat. On the exact subject, sometimes the person who calls shotgun can loose it to someone of higher social ranking.  But unilateral action like this is uncommon and usually frowned upon.  
In American culture, breaking shotgun rules is considered a grave faux pas.
Really?  Is this an accurate NPOV description of US culture, or an isolated cultural habit?  Can some USians confirm or deny this? -- Pde 06:09, 29 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd never heard of it until I read it in a webcomic and immediately got confused. I'm not sure whether it really is used in parts of Britain, but as I said... it was completely alien to me outside of certain informal american influences. Admittedly, I (and my family) have a very formal positioning structure as regards automobile seating places... so this situation would never have arisen with us anyway. ~ SotiCoto 195.33.121.133 11:42, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Can anyone cite a source or provide additional information on the Laser / Double Barrel thing?  I've never heard of it and it doesn't make much sense.  Why have a phrase that negates Shotgun?  If people do actually use this, what are the limitations on it?  That is, if "Laser" is acceptable in your group, why would you not call it every time someone beats you to "Shotgun"?  Do you risk a beating, or what?  Some details would be nice.  If nobody who does the "Laser" thing can provide some info I'll remove the passage. TomTheHand 18:39, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Laser / Double Barrel 

message: This is a simple rule that lets anyone over rule the shotgun call. When some one has said shotgun then you can just call out "shotgun slap" and get the front seet. (it has  to be done shortly after the first call.)
Umm...I think you are mis-hearing "Shotgun's lap", from RvB.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.199.215.48 (talk) 09:44, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  shotgun slaping 

message: I have re-added this section, this time with citations. I think it can be considered fairly verifiable encyclopedic content.
Dreadpirate Roberts 07:41, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misconceptions 

message: I just discovered this entry, and was amazed at the quality and scope of the coverage of all of the rules to this game, most of which I had heard before, and some of which I've heard though with different, perhaps, local nomenclature.  Sadly, someone removed all of these rules in one fell swoop just for the rules being "unsourced".  I think it would be better to annotate requests for source than removing the rules entirely.  The entry was accurate by my  reading.  pohl  Thu Nov  9 11:59:22 CST 2006
: Wikipedia's criterion for incusion is "verifiability, not truth".  If it's accurate but can't be proven to be accurate from reliable sources, it can be removed. — Haeleth Talk 11:11, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's called "no original research". Wikipedia is not a rule book for going on a road trip. Philwelch 03:25, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

text: The article was a mess and there was no way any of that stuff was going to gain sources. It's better to delete it all and start again, with  a strict requirement on sources for things that do get added. --Dtcdthingy 04:44, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

text: there's a link at the bottom of the page to shotgunrules.com. that's sufficient. wikipedia does not have to publish their rules. it is not the business of an encyclopedia to teach people how to call shotgun 69.81.57.152 (talk) 22:56, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  unsourced rule removal 

message: Does the term originate from riding the "Shotgun" position on a Horse and Carriage setup. I.E. The guy not "driving"? I was watching The Magnificent Seven and McQueens character sais "I'll ride shotgun" and took the passanger position holding a shotgun. meh.
Same Poster answers his own question via Wikipedia of all sources:-P  The below link is in the main article:
http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mrideshotgun.html  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.131.29.168 (talk • contribs).
I added it back, but with a comment that it comes from fiction about the Old West (as opposed to its originating from that time). The article mentioned that the phrase dates back to 1921, however it did not say in what way it was used, and where the "shotgun" part comes from. Regardless of when the term was coined, it should be noted that it was first used to refer to the guy with the shotgun. --daranzt 17:45, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good job. Philwelch 06:17, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin 

message: I have flagged this as original research as there is no proper sourcing, the subject is an informal game and "rules" vary wildly from one group of friends/family to another. See WP:V, WP:OR and WP:MADEUP. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 18:42, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rules for "shotgun"

message: What about a mention of the phrase "shotgun not", which comes under the terms of dibs#variations? --123.51.103.64 (talk) 05:17, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  shotgun not? 

message: I removed shotgunrules.com from the External links. It's not an official site for shotgun rules, it's a commercial site by a group of people. I don't think we should include sites like that because then why shotgunrules.com and not my or someone else' site?  -- Northern (talk) 22:38, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shotgunrules.com removed 

message: The shotgun rider will take care of all minor chores that require getting out of the truck briefly.
In the western states, (I live in Arizona) we sometimes ride in our pick-up trucks on rangeland. It is customarily the duty of the shotgun rider to get out to open any gates to let the truck through and then close the gate behind the truck to prevent the cattle from escaping. 
Alexselkirk1704 (talk) 22:55, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duties of the Shotgun rider 

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message: I don’t believe this expression exists in the uk. 2A02:8012:7A83:0:64B7:6769:3F1:2250 (talk) 10:09, 12 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  American?