Talk:Shirley Manson/Archive 1

message: ...about that last line about her sister, i heard in an interview with Shirley Manson that she was the middle child of three daughters, meaning she would have two sisters.  Could someone verify?  thanks.  -[[user:themarcuscreature}|marcus]]
:This is confirmed in the linked Independent interview. 
213.132.172.8 15:06, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)

message: In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 21:40, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gay Icon Project 

message: Garbage a GRUNGE band????????  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.212.185.161 (talk) 21:52, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Garbage is undefinable band. You can call it grunge if you want.You can not call if you don't. But you can't stop...95.25.69.49 (talk) 14:41, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Grunge

message: I keep putting that she was often beat up in school, and it keeps getting deleted. She WAS bullied, so that's right, but she got beat up. A LOT.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.141.132.252 (talk) 04:08, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Statements like that usually require a citation, re WP:V. - JeffJonez (talk) 04:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: bullying

message: Does Shirley Manson bear any relation to the American musician Marilyn Manson?
I think a quick clarifying note about whether they are related or just co-incidently have the same surname be placed in the article.
:There's no relation and making a note of it is just superfluous. dc 04:14, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: One, sign your bloody posts.  Two, the article already states that they are not related.  Three, I've got no idea why you are posting Marilyn Manson trivia here.  This belongs on the Marilyn Manson talk page, or perhaps in that article. Canonblack 02:46, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Marilyn Manson

message: My research has her name spelt Shirley Anne Manson , ,  , not as shown in the main article. Can someone verify either way ?
Derek R Bullamore 19:23, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Full name

message: The last item in the trivia section about "pee and shit and menstrual blood" is salacious, but not particularly meaningful outside of her '10 Commandments'. I urge that either that last item be removed, or preferably, the 10 Commandments be included as it adds a new and interesting dimension to her personality. --UnicornTapestry (talk) 05:25, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article seems to read like she's Pollyanna, but...- (User) WolfKeeper (Talk) 08:59, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: It is rumoured that Shirley Manson has earned a regular role on Fox's Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
On "Sarah Connor," produced by Warner Bros. TV, Scottish musician Manson will play Catherine Weaver, the CEO of a cutting-edge high-tech company. Confirmed Here
Are There Any Other Confirmations?
User:Dsm14 21:09, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: (moved to bottom) Haven't seen any other note of this yet. Interesting, though. Kresock (talk) 04:18, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Piggy-backing on this - the first episode of Terminator's second season clearly features the audio of Manson performing "Samson and Delilah." I can't find any articles I can reference (and I don't want to run afoul of original research taboos), but I went ahead and added it until a source presents itself. AdamKB (talk) 05:23, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Found and added the reference. AdamKB (talk) 14:44, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Acting Career

message: The article seems to suggest (in Life and Career) that Maurice the Minotaur was put on by either the City of Edinburgh Music School or the Waverley Singers. In fact it was put on by the, now defunct, Edinburgh Youth Theatre in Baden Powell House, Fishers Close, Edinburgh. It was directed by David Clayton and Bruce Henderson with words and music by Iain Johnston and Gavin Pagan. Shirley also won plaudits for other Edinburgh Youth Theatre shows including "The Gollywog" and "The Scatterbrained Scarecrow of Oz".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.193.211.242 (talk) 15:16, 23 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maurice the Minotaur 

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message: Well, I'm pretty sure she was not known to have dated him. She was married at the time.
Patrick Riverside (talk) 10:04, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geoff Barrow 

message: On the Garbage page, I've removed the lines "Manson is reluctant to talk about her album, preferring to wait until it is released in early 2008. Manson was scheduled to finish recording the album in September 2007." Clearly, this information is out of date: if anyone has any references about a new release date (or any pertinent information at all about the album), the article would benefit from this information being added  Dom Kaos (talk) 15:25, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent - thanks for adding that new information  :-)  Dom Kaos (talk) 12:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Manson's solo album

message: Manson presented the material to Geffen in 2008, who rejected it. She is continuing to record outwith filming commitments re: the articles and interviews sourced on the Shirley Manson page. She has also stated this in person on her own Facebook page, the Carson Daly show, Chelsae Lateley and Spike Feresten. 
Breakinguptheguy (talk) 01:44, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent - thanks for adding that new information  :-)  Dom Kaos (talk) 12:39, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Re:solo album

message: Can I just air my issue with this section - I believe it was removed from the page a long time ago, although I don't recall by whom or why,  and I don't know who added it back later, but anyway - 
Manson is an Atheist. Although she was raised Presbytarian, Manson renounced the religion at age 12. During a 1998 interview with Rolling Stone Magazine, when asked if she believed in God, she replied "No, not at all."
I'm uncomfortable with the inclusion of this statement. I'm not denying that the article states these facts, however I do question wether it is appropriate to potentially libel Manson as an athiest with a statement sourced from an interview in a music magazine which was published in late 1998. There has been, to date, eleven years in which Manson may have re-evaluated her faith or lack thereof. I think if there isn't a relevant statement from Manson about her faith recorded in recent times then this statement should be removed as the current accuracy of the statement would be in dispute and libellious.
Also, because the statement contains numerous spelling and grammatical errors and a lack of italicisation of Rolling Stone [magazine] makes me suspect that this statement was added by User:Nimbley6, a blocked member's sockpuppet username that I have encountered over the last year.Breakinguptheguy (talk) 20:09, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Quite likely - my experience of Nimbley6 is that they wouldn't understand the difference between "not believing in God" (agnostic) and "believing that God does not exist" (atheist). Regardless, if the statement isn't supported by the cite then the statement should be removed or rewritten. I'll remove it now; the editor who originally re-added it might like to rewrite it, or I'll take a look later if I get a chance. Cheers, TFOWRThis flag once was red 12:22, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: (Done). TFOWRThis flag once was red 12:25, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion 

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message: Why does it state "model" next to Occupations under the Background Info? doing a shoot once early in the career does not make anyone a model, something Manson unquestionably isn't. Many, many people have done that, across vary professions. Cate Blanchett, an actress, for example, has done an inordinate amount of shoots, attended many fashion events, signed deals with fashion designers, as is not ever labeled or considered a model, rightfully so. A singer-songwriter/musician certainly shouldn't. 
Is there any objection to this? I believe it should be removed. Makes no sense. Again, doing a shoot just means you did a shoot or modeled (verb) once for whatever, not that you are professionally a model. Nonsense.  --Lapadite77 (talk) 02:07, 4 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I shall remove it if no one formally objects.--Lapadite77 (talk) 06:20, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Model