Talk:Dan Savage

message: WHO wants Dan Savages birthday to be 10 years ahead of what he himself has repeatedly pointed out as wrong? and WHY?
someone seems to have an interest in preventing the wrong date from being edited. WHY is that so???
one of numerous sources for his correct age: http://www.savagelovecast.com/episodes/88#.UuqoNBzAnh4
unless he is a liar, his year of birth should be 1974, NOT 1964!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nicky Romano (talk • contribs) 14:43, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: He is joking. Nothing to see here. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 16:15, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

text: I'll take his (printed) words (see the work cited for his birthday) from his own book over the text on a podcast webpage as a more reliable source. DP76764 (Talk) 19:45, 30 January 2014 (UTC)

text: It's October 7, 1964 in Contemporary Authors Online, Gale Biography in Context, Newsmakers, Salon, imdb, The Quotable Atheist, Slap and Tickle, A Readers Book of Days, etc. Savage has been taking 10 years off his age for years. It's an old, old joke. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 23:00, 30 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of birth controversy 

message: When did he come out? That's an important part of his life, should we put it in there?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.98.124.118 (talk) 10:31, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Um, guys? 

message: This but it was covered by some reliable sources and lots of advocacy groups/publications, so its absence here may be rather obvious, if anyone wants to take it on:
* U Chicago announcement
* U of C student newspaper
* U Chicago statement
* Reason (magazine) June 4 and June 9.
* National Review June 5, June 6
*His reply
Carolmooredc  (Talkie-Talkie) 16:53, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried to do it.  Blue Rasberry (talk) 02:05, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Since this is a Biography of a living person, and these are harsh criticisms, it's important we get it right so gave more context to initial situation and used WP:RS secondary source to identify the salient points of his reply. He just said too many things all over the board for Wiki editors to do that, especially when secondary sources are available. Carolmooredc  (Talkie-Talkie) 03:02, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: 2014 U of Chicago discussion controversy

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message: If it is worth mentioning at all, Savage's comments on incels and sex work should probably be summarized as something like, "Savage said that the stigmatization of sex workers and their clients is one of the causes of the male entitlement that contributes to mass murders by incels. He rejected characterizations of his views as 'throwing sex workers at incels'". Read: . I wouldn't mention this at all unless third party sources have covered it. Characterizing a subtle argument entirely on primary sources is out of bounds of the WP:BLP policy. Self-published sources can be used in a BLP for unambitious statements the subject makes about themselves ("I've been to France. I'm no longer dating Bob.", but when it's complex, and doesn't fit on a bumper sticker, we need secondary sources to give us an analysis. See WP:SELFPUB and WP:PRIMARY. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 02:43, 4 May 2018 (UTC)
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message: do you have a source for the "American cannabis activists" category? –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 14:32, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: https://thefreshtoast.com/cannabis/dan-savage-on-launching-americas-first-marijuana-themed-film-festival-theres-a-huge-visual-component-to-being-stoned/ deisenbe (talk) 14:39, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure that organizing a film festival around a particular theme automatically makes one an "activist" for that theme, and the article doesn't describe him as such. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 15:52, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. There's nothing about cannabis activism in that article.  Unfortunately, some Wikipedia editors think "activism" means doing something in favor or support of an idea or practice, and have weakened the meaning and definition of the term.  I suspect that 90% of the activist categories should be depopulated and the editors responsible for tagging articles like this should stop. The problem initially stems from a philosophical position in the conservative/libertarian community which promotes the idea that anyone who supports a controversial idea or practice suddenly becomes an "activist".  This is a minority position unique to the conservative community and isn't generally held outside of that group. Viriditas (talk) 20:39, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: FWIW, recreational marijuana had already been legal for 7 years at the time he was involved in this festival. –Roscelese (talk ⋅ contribs) 01:13, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
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