Talk:LANSA Flight 502

message: I have passed this one even though it seems at first glance rather thin because, looking at what's out there, the article creators have used just about every source they could for an event 36 years in the past. It passes in the sense that it's almost as good as it's probably going to get and is regretfully too short to be a serious FA candidate.
I would improve it a bit by changing things like "Buffalo, NY" to "Buffalo, New York" per Wikipedia's style guidelines, and adding some other categories this might fall into (I found a couple that I'll do already). Daniel Case 13:32, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the vote and the advice. I'll try my best to keep improving it. This is my first GA ever - it is much appreciated! Crum375 15:27, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Good Article

message: This article is named after the location of the crash rather than after the flight number. After doing some poking around, I found that this is probably LANSA Flight 502, service from Cuzco to Lima. Online, a scanned LANSA timetable from circa 1968 lists the Cuzco-Lima service as Flight 502 and a United States Senate press release from August 2006 refers to this crash as the crash of LANSA Flight 502.
Would it be prudent or necessary to rename this article? For the time being, I'll set up a redirect from LANSA Flight 502 to this article. plmoknijb 17:22, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only way to add Flight 502 is if you can find a reliable source. We could even accept a reliable primary source, if it's non controversial. So please provide the source, if you have it. Otherwise, even the redirect would have to be removed if unsourced. Crum375 17:32, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yuh, the reliable source, I know. =) Well, these are the only easily accessible online sources I found: 1968 LANSA timetable and Senator Schumer's office press release. I would be hesitant to trust the senator's press release but the timetable is helpful. I checked the New York Times archives for articles related to the crash but none of them mention the flight number. (To be fair I think this is partly a function of the era of the crash.) I'll defer to your judgment on whether to put any mention of Flight 502 in the article, but I think it merits at least a redirect. I guess if one were really devoted a phone call to the senator's office might provide an answer. plmoknijb 16:19, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since this is a non-contentious issue, I think we can rely on the combination of Shumer's press release and the timetable. I agree with a redirect for now, and perhaps move the name also. Thanks for the good detective work! Crum375 16:31, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  LANSA Flight 502 

message: Not sure the aftermath section is particulaly notable (or referenced) and the mention of one non-notable student is not really required. It could have beens are not really encyclopedic and I would recommend that the section is removed.MilborneOne (talk) 17:50, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the "non-notable student" was written up in a news article about the crash, as were the other 15 who didn't take the flight I think it does add information and perspective about the crash for a reader, so I'll try to find those sources (not sure how they disappeared, perhaps the article clippings were sub-pages on the accident website, now all broken links). Crum375 (talk) 01:38, 18 June 2009 (UTC)

text: I decided to remove the Aftermath section per User:MilborneOne's suggestion. It seems to have been added by an anon-IP a couple of months ago, with no sources. Crum375 (talk) 02:30, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Aftermath

message: The online copy of the Final Report is now cited in the article, and is currently in Spanish. I have not been able to find an official English translation, which would be very helpful. In the meanwhile, I am quoting below the OCR'd version of the "Causes" section of PDF document (apologies for poor formatting, feel free to improve):
I might add google translate version of the above, but would not want to quote it in article space. Crum375 (talk) 16:47, 8 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Excerpt from Final Report document

message: Causes of the Accident.
*Note: this translation was produced by a free online translator from Spanish to English
* I have made a couple of minor fixes in the above translation. Anyone is welcome to improve it further. Crum375 (talk) 20:23, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: English translation of the (Spanish) "Causes" section above

message: This image was in the original article for several years, until removed without comment in 2013 by anon ip. I have now restored it, as I think it adds perspective, showing the general area and terrain where the accident sequence took place, from takeoff to crash. Crum375 (talk) 10:33, 23 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image showing accident area 

message: The "Causes" section in the Final Report (in Spanish, see also an English Translation above) does not mention "overloading", so I have removed that term from the lead to conform to the Final Report. Crum375 (talk) 20:45, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "overloading" removal from lead