Talk:Gian Lorenzo Bernini

message: The story about Borromini's church facade and Bernini's fountain is nice, but in actuality the fountain was built before the facade, so it cannot be true.
Please sign your messages Hornandsoccer 15:36, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Older comments 

message: The lead section of the article says:
:Giovanni Lorenzo Bernini (Giovanni Lorenzo Bernini; December 7, 1598 – November 28, 1680) was a pre-eminent Baroque sculptor and architect of 17th century Rome. 
Why list his name twice: "Giovanni Lorenzo Bernini (Giovanni Lorenzo Bernini; ..."? AecisBrievenbus 21:50, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name listed twice 

message: Although I see this repeated all over the internet, clearly traceable to some original source that is being copied over and again, someone needs to substantiate the claim that the Constantine statue at the base of the Scala Regia is in any way hidden. I do not believe it is correct.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Italtrav (talk • contribs) 04:13, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constantine Statue Hidden? 

message: For consideration in the context of this article. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 12:57, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further reading or bibliography addition (1) 

message: This section requires editing. For instance, the following sentence, which states: "At the end of April 1665, at the height of his fame and powers..." needs to be polished. I recommend rewording it. Try this: "At the end of April 1665--during the height of his fame and power--he traveled to Paris and remained there until November" 
There are a few other spots that could be improved, and I will make some more suggestions when I have some more time to spare.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.208.35.31 (talk) 04:40, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing required on section entitled: Mature Sculptural Output 

message: I noticed some serious "POV" issues:
*"He was the leading sculptor of his age".
*"with a dramatic naturalistic realism which was almost shocking."
*"far outshining other sculptors of his generation"
Just in the first few sentences of the lead.... The Rambling Man (talk) 22:02, 5 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The first one is unquestionable - if not him then who? The other two could be toned down a bit, but he was the dominant sculptor of his period, as any source will tell you.  Johnbod (talk) 05:56, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's not unquestionable, I questioned it.  A source is required if someone questions it.  You should know that by now.  The Rambling Man (talk) 18:15, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

text: Added sources for the "leading sculptor" bit. Even the smallest amount of research shows that this is widely accepted. —howcheng  {chat} 17:44, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Glad you made it here to see the state of these articles!  Thanks for doing the whole job, and for adding some references from another source in a much under-referenced weak article. The Rambling Man (talk) 18:15, 6 December 2012 (UTC)

text: I think quite a few of these claims could be referenced in scholarly literature or toned down. A section on the historical reputation of Bernini may also serve to buttress some of the claims made. Will work on it over Christmas. Xcia0069 (talk) 13:00, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The literature on Bernini is loaded with this kind of over-the-top language, and it should not be very difficult to find sources to cite. But do we really need it to this degree? --Robert.Allen (talk) 05:37, 5 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I am affraid that Bernini was indeed the leading sculptor of his age, far outshining other sculptors of his generation. Before him it was Michelangelo, but than it was him. One doesn't need to be affraid of big words when it is about a real excellent artist.  It's unquestionable because this is exactly the oppinion of most of the art history books, scholarly literature and scholars agree about this.
Hafspajen (talk) 15:56, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Most of the praise and commentary on Bernini has now been removed or has had citations added so have removed the neutrality label. Xcia0069 (talk) 11:11, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV language 

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message: I saw this recent edit to the second paragraph of lede: . I'm all for conciseness, but there may be an important difference between "a metaphor" and "a metaphorical device". An art historian would be the best person to ask about this. CorinneSD (talk) 17:03, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  A metaphor or a metaphorical device? 

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