Talk:The Real Group

message: I don't know who posted the vocal ranges, but they could probably be clarified a little bit better. I am unsure when the author references "high C" if he or she means C5 or C6, an octave above middle C or two. Couldn't this be changed to more standard notation, like in the following:
Vocal ranges of the members
    * Emma Nilsdotter: (Not known)
    * Katarina Henryson: From D3 to C5/6.
    * Anders Edenroth: From C3 to A4/5.
    * Peder Karlsson: From E2 to C5.
    * Anders Jalkéus: From A1 to C4.
Vocal ranges of previous members
    * Johanna Nyström: (Not known)
    * Margareta Bengtson: From F3 to G5/6
Furthermore, this section, while informative, doesn't really seem like it is important enough to merit inclusion in the main text. I almost think it might fit better in the infobox.
Just my humble thoughtsJosejuan05 (talk) 21:21, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Vocal Ranges

message: I'm not sure what is meant by "The Real Group were the first members to be accepted into the Royal College's degree program".  First members of what?  Is the article asserting that (all) the original five TRG members were the (only) first people to ever be accepted into a degree program at the Royal College of Music?  Knowing very little about the RCM, I still find that very hard to believe since the RCM has been around since 1771 (and/or since 1971, depending on how you look at it; either way, it was there for years before anyone from TRG started attending it).
So: if this is not the assertion being made, please re-word the text to clarify its meaning and to eliminate the possibility of misinterpretation.  Or if this is the assertion being made, please provide some citation that backs it up. Mlibby 15:11, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Removing the text in question.  Feel free to restore it when you can provide clarification and/or citation. Mlibby 17:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "First members to be accepted..."

message: Can we get a better picture?  One with Margareta instead of Johanna Nyström? Mlibby 16:11, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am contacting The Real Group to see if we can get access to their press kit materials. There should be some useable pictures in there. Mlibby 16:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Contacted, accessed, added and linked.  I'm not sure if it will survive the "speedy deleters", since I didn't ask TRG to sign away rights to their property.  If it gets zapped, I'll get back in touch with TRG to see if we can get something GFDL-able (may have to find a Wikipedian in Sweden... argh). Mlibby 05:20, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Better Picture

message: The "Dancing Queen" performance linked here is appalling:  it's apparently 100% lip synch, because the sound track is spot-on identical with the track released on The Real Group albums (at least on Allt Det Bästa).
As further proof, the track to which they're lip-synching is a studio track that contains many more voice parts and effects than what they could possibly produce on stage, even with the ostensible addition of Anni-Frid Lyngstad.
So, in fact, Anni-Frid isn't even heard in this performance; she's just lip-synching to Katarina's voice.  Granted, I'd rather hear Katarina than Anni-Frid any day, but this is just ridiculous.
I suppose an encyclopdia must point out the bad with the good, but couldn't we get links to some actual good performances?  The Real Group is one of the very best live-performing a cappella groups in the world (at least if their live recordings are any indication), and having just this one atrocious performance linked here is not representative of what The Real Group really is.  Please dig up some other, better performance links.  Sure, leave the "Dancing Queen" link here to remind us all about fallability and such.
Blah blah blah.  I'm probably just talking to myself here.  I will dig up some performances and post them here if I can find the time.  Please beat me to it if you can. Mlibby 15:59, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the "Dancing Queen" performance is not representative but it is (trivially) significant in that it was (presumably) a command performance for the queen (c.f. "Beatles and Queeen Elizabeth II"), I'm going to move the link to this particular "Dancing Queen" performance completely into the "Trivia" section (= removing from the "External links" section). I'm going to include a super-brief explanation of the lip sync, because it's required in order to be accurate in mentioning the performance.Also, I'm popping out the "legality of live performances from YouTube" talk page question to a separate topic on the talk page. Mlibby 15:18, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm. It looks like I'm at least partly wrong: the group's rendition of "Dancing Queen" may have actually been recorded with Anni-Frid ("Frida") in the first place; I don't really know enough Swedish yet to be able to say for sure, just by looking at the group's web site.  So I'll retract some of the "this is just ridiculous" claims I was making, but I'm still sure that the audio track accompanying that live performance clip is identical to the studio recording.  Allowing some remaining uncertainty as to whether that track was added to the performance clip before or after the video was recorded (and in light of my other comments about the general okay-ness of lip synchs under some circumstances), I'm dropping the "lip sync" comments in this article (in and around the reference to the "Dancing Queen" performance...  but the reference will still stay in the trivia section, at least for now). Mlibby 16:35, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Linked peformance(s)

message: What is the legality of these live performances from YouTube?  Am I correct in assuming that the particular material hosted on YouTube is probably in violation of the respective copyright holders?  What is the legality or appropriateness of linking to that material, then?  I will try to dig up the answer(s) [see earlier "talking to myself" comment], but I'd appreciate it if someone else could help find the answer(s), too. Mlibby 15:19, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:Copyrights#Linking to copyrighted works.  The upshot is that if the linked material appears to violate copyright, then don't link it (because of "contributory infringement" and because it casts WP in a bad light).  So the YouTube performance links in question need to go bye-bye.  Mlibby 20:00, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Legality of live performances from YouTube

message: This is a list of suggested work to do on this article.  You obviously don't have to add tasks to this list before doing something (that would be very un-Wiki); the list is just here as a convenience.  If you want to add stuff to it, feel free.  When you complete something in the list, you can put   around it to give it a strikethrough, and you might want to sign your username afterwards using ~~~~.  Mlibby 03:13, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "To-do" list 

message: Hi there! To any and all interested: I've proposed a WikiProject dedicated to a cappella. This would be a group of editors interested in improving the quality of articles related to a cappella. If you're passionate about a cappella—ranging from the Pentatonix to groups like the Real Group, or perhaps pop culture representations like Pitch Perfect and The Sing-Off—please check out the proposal and share your thoughts!
Here's a link to the proposal for WikiProject A Cappella.
If you could see yourself contributing to an article related to a cappella (like this one), please consider joining!
:—Shrinkydinks (talk) 20:55, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for comment: new WikiProject for a cappella-related articles