Talk:Dave Bautista/Archive 2

message: I work at a club where he used to work in DC and he had to leave there when he head-butted a customer and the guy busted his head on the sidewalk.  I think "self defense" is based on an interview he gave in a previous issue of FLEX.  But aside from having a pretty live temper, it also seems that he has a case of revisionist history.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.126.174.237 (talk • contribs) 
:I think we may need the official police report to truly decipher this mystery I will do my best to dig up the official article such as e-mail, call, write, whatever it takes.--Trick man01 08:09, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Self-defense" 

message: It does not need to be their if they want that information they can easily look it up. His title reign should be followed by vacant the fact that Kurt Angle won the title is already in the article.
:yes well unfortunatly if it is put that way many take it upon themselfs to put in Kurt Angle as the successior even though it is clearly put as Vacant... so us members of pro wrestling wikiproject put that information there to stop ppl wrong adding Kurt Angle --- Paulley 15:04, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That doesn't make the information any more relevant, though.  The edits can be reverted, and if people wonder why, they need look no further than the talk page.  People editing in incorrect information isn't a valid reason for having irrelevant information on a bio. Darquis 06:28, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The way Kurt Angle won the title is completely irrelevant to his title history

message: Has Batista been completly stationary since his injury? Has he done absolutely nothing as of now?--Killswitch Engage 19:19, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current Info 

message: "widely believed to be a work". First, that's a little NPOV. Second, most places I visit believe it was a shoot fight and they will just turn it into an angle(like they did with the Matt Hardy-Edge situation, it started as real and got turned into an angle). TJ Spyke 03:07, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Booker Fight 

message: hes really returning on july 4?i think this is more rumour....SPOV 22:40, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: eh?

message: YESSSSS!!!! FINALLY BATISTA CLOBBERRED MARK HENRY'S FATASS!!! IM SO HAPPY IM CRYING! Slapslapslap 17:54, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  July 7 

message: Look at his upper left arm tattoo .. It is obviously a flag of the Philippines. Please edit the information.  Bautista is a commong lastname here in the Philippines. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.208.210.97 (talk • contribs) 
:Reverted the erroneous edits by User:68.192.76.107. --Jtalledo (talk) 02:05, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thai?? Batista is Filipino. Look at his tattoo. 

message: It is so obvious that batista had some ring rust-- it is very clear! He botched the Batista bomb and the spinebuster!Why cant it be added to the article?? --Fr3nZi3 01:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ring rust

message: Oh my god, i am sick and tired of people making fake things (ie: During the match batisa tried to force his penis in JBL's rectal cavity") People, this is a encyclopedia and not something to write that is sick just because you don't like the wrestler.
I wholeheartedly agree with you. This is one of those kinds of vandalisms that is just plain WRONG-not that the other vandalism isnt noticeable wrong, but this kind is just...the wrongest of the wrong, lol. Hopefully it will stop eventually-but since i just said that, i probably jinxed it or drew vandals to this page...
vandals, back off, you cretins, lol!! =P J/K --Cookie 02:12, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: People screwing articles

message: Is it worth mentioning that Batista and Big Show broke kayfabe after the ECW show by hugging each other? The video used to be on Youtube but it was quickly removed after WWE found it. Slapslapslap 18:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breaking Kayfabe @ ECW 

message: We Need A GOOD PICTURE OF BATISTA AND PICTURE OF THE BATISTA BOMB!!!!!!!!!!!!
if your looking for a good picture... go to ask.com click on images and it will give you a huge selection
:Yes but as has been repeatedly pointed out, virtually none of them may be used on the Wikipedia.  --Yamla 22:08, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FIX PAGE UP 

message: The "animal" seems to have lost a bunch of muscle during this injury and return to the ring - 30lbs by my reckoning - any news on what's up?
...and now seems to be piling it back on just as fast - at least according to his stats on this page...
Surgery does that to you. Also, since he tore his tricep and had surgery on it, he was most likely unable to work out for a good while AFTER surgery, until it was 100% definite that it was healed enough for that kind of strain. Not working out for that long can cause some muscle loss, and reduced size and weight.
I'm not doctor or trainer or anything, but I'd put my money on one of those two. =P --Cookie 02:10, 20 September 2006 (UTC
:I would also. I don't think he lost that much muscle, but he lost his "pump" and gained some fat, much like Chris Masters who also had to stay away from gym for rehab. Also people compare his muscle definition to his early days, or promo pics, not to his muscle definition shortly before his accident. That is also something that was done to Chris Masters. --81.175.152.191 14:09, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes during a house show Henry injured Bastista —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Paulley (talk • contribs) 09:56, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weight loss 

message: Is batista really dating Rebecca from the diva search?
Yes. It is confirmed but some people think it's a "Rumor".. 
"Batista is in the process of getting divorced and is now dating Rebecca from this year's Diva Search. A lot of the agents and workers on Smackdown have not been too impressed with Batista's work since his return. The majority feel like he's not even trying at this point."  From WrestleZone.com
: It is NOT confirmed the only time it will be confirmed is when batista or rebecca report it not newssites. Wrestling news sites have been wrong many times in the past with reports on who is dating who that is why it is why until batista or rebecca confirm it, it will be a rumour and rumours have no place in wikipedia articles on the facts rumours alot of the time turn out false. Lil crazy thing 19:34, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: really dating?

message: ok I have just added a pic of Batista performing a Batista bomb and a new profile pic SKRIBUL 19:07, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: i've removed it because 1. do not change the profile picture as it is a free image unless it is with another free image picture and 2. neither pictures have the correct copyrights so it will be removed and deleted. 80.47.159.132 11:44, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  acording to this its fine:
Copyrighted
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    * to illustrate articles about the subjects of the images in question,
    * in the absence of a free alternative,
    * on the English-language Wikipedia, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation,
is believed to fall under the fair use clause of United States copyright law.
Other use of this image, on Wikipedia or elsewhere, may be copyright infringement. See Wikipedia:Fair use and Wikipedia:Publicity photos.
To the uploader: please add a detailed fair use rationale for each use, as described on Wikipedia:Image description page as well as the exact source or URL of the work.
SKRIBUL 19:07, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture... 

message: I have read all over the net that Batista's past name is spelled "Kahn", however on Wikipedia it is spelled "Khan"!
So my question is,
which spelling is correct, and if it is in fact spelled "Kahn" then should I fix it?
--Cookie 08:13, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Khan, or Kahn? 

message: In the past two days, i must have changed batista's height-or seen it be changed-at least 5 or 6 times, im not kidding.
Enough is enough.
On www.wwe.com , if you go to his profile, he is clearly 6'5. Not 6'4 or 6'3. 6'5!!!
Stop changing the height, whoever is doing it. I'm getting SICK of it. Is there a way we can warn and/or block the person(s) doing this??--Cookie 07:35, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: WWE.com stats also say Andre is 7 ft 4 in. They usually are kayfabe stats, with one of two exceptions.(Halbared 07:39, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Take a look at celebheights.com(Halbared 08:08, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Wiki protocol is not to slavishly adhere to WWE.com, as you'll see from manty superstar bios?(Halbared 08:39, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't see how a content dispute can be described as vandalism.  In fact I know it can't. Rich Farmbrough, 21:03 1  September 2006 (GMT).
No, the LAST time it was edited it was vandalism cuz i put a warning up.
Content disputes are not vandalism, i know, but i thought if you put a warning up it was then considered vandalism after that?
What i think we need is to have a discussion on this. In fact, i'm going to create one. --Cookie 22:56, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ENOUGH IS ENOUGH

message: I did not break the 3RR. I am removing what can now be considered vandalism. If you revert the height back to whatever that third party site says (anything other than 6'5) you are vandalizing. I have changed it as much as i can, but this is getting annoying. I have even added a warning and you STILL continue to change it. If you wish to have the height changed to whatever that third party site says, discuss it on this Talk Page first!!. Thank you. (Note: If anyone sees Batista's height being anything other than 6'5 and it has not been discussed on the talk page, PLEASE change it back.)--Cookie 19:48, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see how a content dispute can be described as vandalism.  In fact I know it can't. Rich Farmbrough, 21:03 1  September 2006 (GMT).
No, the LAST time it was edited it was vandalism cuz i put a warning up.
Content disputes are not vandalism, i know, but i thought if you put a warning up it was then considered vandalism after that?
What i think we need is to have a discussion on this. In fact, i'm going to create one. --Cookie 22:56, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Height warning

message: We are currently having a content dispute on this article.
This is the question. Please state your opinion on what should be done. Perhaps we can get a moderator of some sort to make it official.
Should Batista's height be the one recorder on WWE.com-6'5-or the one on the other third party-type sites-6'4-? I think WWE.com is more believable than this other site, since it is what his height has been based on for quite some time now.
However, others are saying differently.
Please put forth your comments/opinions on this matter and hopefully i can get an admin/mod of some kind to sort the matter out. Thank you, --Cookie 22:59, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Third Party Site or WWE?

message: This is a dispute about which site information should be used for this article. A few different users are claiming Dave Batista's height to be other than 6'5, as listed on WWE.com. They are using a different site which is saying Batista is 6'4. We have not been able to reach a compromise on this, but we need to in order to avoid editing wars. Should Batista's height be the one as listed on WWE.com, or on this other site which says it is 6'4?
Link to 6'4 site (celebheights.com): http://www.celebheights.com/s/Dave-Batista-2754.html
Link to 6'5 site (WWE.com):
http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/batista/profile/
--Cookie 21:43, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Celebhieghts has ppl endlessly poring over ppl's height to try and achieve a concensus. There are quite a few wrestlers on there naturally because of the way wrestlers heights are often greatly exagerated. Batista himself say's, "It could be that I'm 6-5, 300 pounds", which sounds like he is being deliberately vague, to maintai his greater size. Whereas WWE.com still list Hogan as 6 ft 7 in (when he himself say's he is 6 ft 4 in) and Andre the Giant as 7 ft 4 in. Wiki wrestling protocol is not to slavishily repeat the inforation for wrestlers stats, but to try and determine the correct height, celebheights is a good tool to use for this.(Halbared 06:40, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

text: WWE use kafaybe heights and celebheights try to achieve legit heights through comparisons.(Halbared 21:44, 2 September 2006 (UTC)

text: You have the proof that people debate and come to the consensus...which is what happens in wiki. You didn't remove the wanring I did. Now I havew altered it to make it similar to other warnings aboot height/weight.(Halbared 08:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Ok, now that I've looked at them I can answer.  If you look at our guideline on reliable sources, it says that Wikipedia is not a reliable site because 1) anyone can edit it and 2) we don't have pre-publication fact-checking mechanisms.  The same is true of celebhieghts, so it is also not a reliable source, and shouldn't be used to support anything.  The WWE site doesn't have the same problem, as it isn't an anyone can edit.  But I don't see evidence that it is a highly reliable source either.  In short - don't use celebheights, and don't be very comfortable about the WWE site.  GRBerry 02:19, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

text: If you look above there is no evidence for WWE.com being reliable, in fact the opposite is true, with the bios of Hulk Hogan, Andre the Giant, Kane and others all being wildly exaggerted. That is evidence of WWE.com being highly unreliable. But because it's a 1 inch difference I'll leave the height alone for now. Also usually these let these things mull over a week, not in one day, you cannot say it is sorted right now.(Halbared 08:56, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: RFC (Request For Comments)

message: Guys i was on these website and it say that Batista will be on smallville 5th episode in season 6th [Supermike/supermike]
: True. Although I heard 7th episode...
--The role Batista will be playing on the Smallville series is a villain from the Phantom Zone. He'll be in the ninth episode of this season, airing during the November sweeps week.[supermike/supermike]
http://www.wrestlezone.com/article.php?articleid=160197042
Hmm. I saw that on WWE.com so it's obviously official. Unless WWE failed at news again...(Lol, i LOVE www.YTMND.com...) =)
Anyway, i didnt know he would be a bad guy!!! How sexy!!
Let me just announce...
I will, as of now, be a Smallville fanatic. =P
Hehehe. Batista can do wonders for me, lol! --Cookie 04:05, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What date is that coming on? I really dont wanna miss it.Katie 15:24, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Smallville

message: I heard that he started weight training somewhere around the age of 9, 10 or 11. Is it true & if it is, should we add it into his profile? Son of Kong
Hey, Son of Kong, I heard that somewhere too! I dont know if it would be worth adding it to his profile, though. I'm not sure what relevancy it has to the article. If it is found to be true it could be put under the 'personal information' section, perhaps? --Cookie 04:00, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weight Training 

message: K, we need a new pic. Batista is still not the world champ. We can re-post it if he wins it back.
I agree. It needs to be changed not only because he doesn't have the title, but also because it is a really bad pic. its so blurry, we need to find another one.Katie 02:45, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Five times now... -- bulletproof 3:16 04:07, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I've had enough of the complaining now. I've changed it now to another free image from the public domain photos. It's not exactly perfect, but it is an improvement over the last one. I hope you'll like this one instead.--Oakster (Talk) 21:03, 18 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Nah, I was pretty much joking over the complaining. Sorry about that too. --Oakster (Talk) 16:14, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Pic

message: "David Michael Bautista Jr"
He is the SECOND David Michael Bautista??
I must not have read that on the article before!!!
He's really the second? =O
I'm stunned. I guess i should read more carefully...
Hmm. --Cookie 01:39, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jr???

message: do we have a quote box to go to wikiquote, for Batista or not?LindsieandLance 06:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He doesn't have a page on Wikiquote. -- THLCCD 06:58, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  quotes 

message: Is it true that Dave Batista is divorce or seperated?  You can answer that at my disscussion.LindsieandLance 16:22, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: personal life

message: Whoever put that vandalism in is not cool, in fact, they are an asshole.
WP:DENY -- THLCCD 01:24, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: Moved it to "Dave Bautista".  While "David" may be his legal name, he's known as Dave Batista onscreen (whenever his first name is mentioned.)  Sure, let's spell his last name correctly, but Dave makes far more sense.  Sort of like Dave Finlay rather than David Finlay (wrestler)</nowiki>. Bssc81 19:51, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed DXRAW 08:14, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move to "Dave" 

message: I have proof now that Batista's past name was spelled "Kahn" and not "Khan". Take a look at his official site, www.demon-wrestling.com , and look at the FAQ's. He says his past ring names and he spells it "Kahn". =) This wasnt ever an issue but I just wanted to post this to say it's now true, lol. 
His Kahn character was sooooo sexy =P --03:39, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proof

message: I wanted to know if I should add the Muscle Buster to Batista's signature movelist sense he's been using it lately. I mean I've seen him use it on Finlay twice. —Preceding unsigned comment added by JamX3K (talk • contribs) 
It's not in there? I added it before; guess someone took it out. I'll add it again. -- THLRCCD 04:58, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Muscle Buster 

message: Whoever made this page recently needs a good lesson in Wikipediatronomy. It's a bloody mess! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tommyhaych (talk • contribs) 17:44, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: its a repeating vandal who has continued to do the smae think for a week or so now -- Paulley
Did someone really do that? I havent seen anyone change his name to Batister...I'll keep an eye out just in case. --Cookie 05:58, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What a mess..