Talk:Yumi

message: The asymmetry was supposedly present in the Japanese longbow before the horse was ridden in japan. I have no sources to cite except Feliks Hoff "Kyudo -the way of the bow" (chapter 3), reports on the web and my kyudo-instructor's word. (The horse was presumably used for riding from about 6th century, whereas the earliest known depiction of a Japanese asymmetrical yumi is on a bronze plate from the 3rd century...)
This information needs to be confirmed before inclusion in the main article, but if correct punctures a hole in the theory that the shape is due to horseback riding.
84.48.188.2 (talk) 11:44, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shape 

message: Why is the bow upside down in the pic.? 
It is never placed to rest on the upper tip, only the lower, and I find it weird that it should hang that way... 
Can anyone confirm that it is correct?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.202.141.26 (talk) 22:50, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ironic isn't it?Wolfmankurd (talk) 22:10, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: Some of the language in the article demonstrates poor English, including this example from the 'Shape' section - "It makes bowyer easy to grip yumi after shoot a arrow.". I appreciate that English is not the first langauge for many people, Japanese included, but that is no excuse for language this poor in an English-language Wiki. Noble Korhedron 02:47, 8 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language 

message: Can some body provide information about the penetration, the kind of arrows used and so? Thanks a lot.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.39.46.117 (talk) 20:25, 30 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  More data 

message: *The Korekawa bow at Nara National Museum is a dead link as of 22NOV2011. I've pasted it here in case it comes back later, and for reference.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.56.24.58 (talk) 09:49, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead Link Pruning 

message: The article says that 1/3 and 2/3 are the locations of the vibration nodes in an ideal rod, but they are actually at 1/4 and 3/4 for a free rod, or 1/2 for a rod fixed at its ends. The shape and cross-sectional thickness of the bow will change this dramatically, but the basic hypothesis is easy and painless to test if you have a high-speed camera:
Get a yumi, place it on a table, and give it a little bend-and-release. With a high-speed camera, you will be able to see the nodes easily with even a small push. Do this for both an unstringed and a stringed yumi, and post your results either here or in a blog.
I have not been able to find anything on this, surprisingly. The closest thing is a second-hand quote from the author of a book that apparently dropped the discussion entirely, and he (correctly) identified 1/3 and 2/3 as a perfect-fifth ratio, not the location of natural nodes. Now the perfect fifth may have significance in terms of sympathetic vibrations (harmonics) in the bow, but it will not make the grip itself vibrate less.
Before anybody yells WP:OR, understand that this is a basic physics observation that should be double-checked before we cite a myth redigested multiple times from random blog posts. So that leaves the question: who here is a kyudoka with a high-speed camera? SamuelRiv (talk)
: "Before anybody yells WP:OR, understand..."
: I understand, thank you very much.  Rest assured, I will not "yell" WP:OR just because you are proposing a verification of material here by means of a custom physics experiment, accomplished by seeking out another editor with specialized camera equipment.  How could anyone think such a thing?  Marteau (talk) 00:50, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vibration nodes 

message: There is 0 connection between these two things. If you do not wish to accept my in-good-faith editing out of a patently false statement, so be it.
Burden of proof is, nonetheless, not mine. You cannot demand I prove my statement (especially after I did, and I'll get back to that), and then claim it's my responsibility to disprove a false unsourced statement. It is not my Burden of Proof to disprove your false claims just because some moron wrote a pile of bs here before anybody else.
As to the source I provided, if you don't know wtf "Classified Regulations of the Three Reigns" is to begin with, you probably shouldn't be writing public articles about Japanese History and embarrassing yourself to begin with. Nor am I being paid to make a trip to the library and write up annotations just to disprove some absurdly silly notion (you may as well claim the Japanese Military didn't use firearms until Tom Cruise starred in the Last Samurai). But anyone who has a clue about Japanese Military History will be aware of that source noting mounted Senshi armed with bows and Hesselink's work, who contends the Yamato state adopted mounted archers, in the form of Chinese immigrants forming the Aya clan, shortly after their failed attempt to aid Paekche.
That said, it's just as well. It's abundantly clear when students use Wikipedia for information due to the proliferation of sophomoric idiocy such as this, and the community's obstinate refusal to change bad information just because they've had it wrong for a very long time.50.8.115.78 (talk) 07:06, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Notwithstanding your insults and your temper, your edits will not stand without citations.  Should you wish to contribute to the encyclopedia, you will be required to use citations. It's that simple.  The paramount rule here is "verifiability".  It is not what you or I know.  It is what can be verified.  Please review WP:NOTTRUTH.  Marteau (talk) 07:57, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The History of Yabusame and Horse Archery in Japan 

message: Why is there a “cartridge” category at the bottom of the infobox? It’s a bow, not a firearm. 2600:1700:9DA0:BCC0:1DC9:74BA:AA0:934E (talk) 05:14, 9 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The “cartridge” category in the info box 

message: 重籐弓 is the right word for shigetō yumi, not 重藤弓. As in it is a rattan bound heavy bow and not wisteria (which doesn't make a lick of sense). 91.159.53.226 (talk) 16:09, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for the comment, you are correct.  I fixed the kanji spelling, and replaced the mistaken English wording using "wisteria" with the correct word "rattan". ‑‑ Eiríkr Útlendi │Tala við mig 22:09, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong translation