Talk:Robert Todd Carroll

message: I cleaned it up a bit.  But do we have any evidence to suggest that the Skeptic's Dictionary began with exactly 50 articles? Zensufi 00:14, 21 April 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Misc

message: I think this article is important.  Go to "what links here" and you will find quite a few articles that link to this one.  Bubba73 (talk), 23:47, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the  tag added without explanation by User:24.55.47.135. The article already asserts the important of Carroll, specifically that he is a published author and has a well-known, well-visited website on skepticism. This gives lie to the claim that it "lacks information on the importance of the subject matter". On the other hand, it could use more material and better sourcing. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 00:33, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: while I agree that the subject is notable enough for an article.  The article itself needs work, and references to something other than the subjects work.  --Rocksanddirt 16:56, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  importance 

message: This article reads like something you'd see on his website.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.15.250.226 (talk) 23:18, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this is lacking third-party sources that are more than interviews with the author. Most sources appear to be self-promotion. Does not even describe what "skeptics societies" are about or why we should care.--Parkwells (talk) 18:07, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's difficult to understand what the complaint is. If you don't know what "skeptics societies" means, then you wont be able to understand what the article is about. Paul B (talk) 17:06, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV?

message: I'm not sure that the statement that currently says "Carroll's views have attracted numerous interviews for him from mainstream media" is correct.  I did find one article from the New York Times which has several quotes from him  but one article does not constitute "numerous".  If other people can't find more cites, we should probably rephrase the sentence.  A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 20:07, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carroll's views have attracted numerous interviews for him from mainstream media[citation needed] 

message: Is Carroll an atheist? I can't find anything about either advocacy of atheism or personal belief in it in his autobiographical sketch or the atheism page at http://www.skepdic.com/. Indeed, the skepdic.com atheist page sounds, to me, more as if he would not describe himself as an atheist. I haven't had time to research his writings in depth, but I suggest that is up to the editors who want these claims in the article, rather than to me. Meanwhile, since this falls under the WP:BLP policy, I have removed his supposed advocacy of atheism, and the categories "Atheist philosophers" and "American atheists". Feel free to reinsert these things if you can provide a reference to a reliable source. But please note that "atheist" categories are reserved for people "for whom their atheism was or is a defining characteristic or related to their notability and who have self-identified as atheists". (Similar limitations apply to other religious categories.) Bishonen | talk 16:19, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: P.S. I've found a modest reference for Carroll being personally an atheist (at least in 1996) in the Skeptic's Dictionary article, namely this "personal profile" from Who's Who Online, 1996. It's obviously not sufficient for the things I've removed, though: no "advocacy", no relation to his notability. Bishonen | talk 19:34, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: "Longtime advocate of atheism", Cat:Atheist philosophers, Cat:American atheists

message: I'll be working on updating this page during the next few weeks. Please contact me here if you want to collaborate or if you have any relevant information. Mostafa.kmahmoud (talk) 20:13, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I appreciate all the hard work you have done, my only tiny complaint, is that this website is not a reliable source , it is a fringe website that is anti-Wikipedia hosted by a bunch of paranormal kooks who spend time attacking skeptics and Wikipedia editors. I think that citing this website is only going to bring about problems. HealthyGirl (talk) 12:36, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updating the Page 

message: I have very minimal experience editing, but I thought I should pass this along for someone who does. I found it in today's paper.
http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/sacbee/obituary.aspx?n=robert-todd-carroll&pid=181699431  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bookrede (talk • contribs) 18:39, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death 

message: The criticism section only appears to be apologetics of fringe theorists, making me wonder if it's not undue... (I am not watching this page, so please ping me if you want my attention.)  —PaleoNeonate – 22:59, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: @User:PaleoNeonate: Seems like it. Barron seems to be nobody special, and I deleted his section. I guess any of the people Carroll wrote about could have such a section here, but if we do have those, they should at least be restricted to crackpots with Wikipedia pages. --Hob Gadling (talk) 07:56, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, here was the state at the time I wrote the above in 2017.  —PaleoNeonate – 21:57, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message: One way or another, the source cited for most of the material in this article is Robert Todd Carroll. So work is needed to bring the article into line with the content guideline WP:SELFSOURCE. "Use of self-sourced material should be de minimis; the great majority of any article must be drawn from independent sources." --Cordially, --O Govinda (talk) 15:30, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-sourcing in this article 

message: * The "Views on Religion" section is entirely unsourced or self-sourced.
* As far as I know, Carroll is not celebrated for having made new or profound contributions to religious or anti-religious thought.
If Carroll had views about religion that deserve a place in an encyclopedia, we should find them discussed by reliable secondary sources. Unless someone has reliable sources to bring forward, the section seems to deserve to be dropped. (And if someone wants to re-add it later with reliable sources, great.)
No?
Cordially, O Govinda (talk) 17:41, 6 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Views on Religion" section 

message: The redirect Jon Barron has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  --Finngall talk 16:01, 2 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Jon Barron]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: Sheldrake replied to Carroll's criticism by defending his own arguments and accusing Carroll of committing several logical fallacies, including using false dilemmas and misrepresenting Sheldrake's position. He criticized the Skeptic's Dictionary itself, writing that it would not survive had it been subject to independent peer reviews.[31] -- So what? The fact that the subject of this article was critical of Sheldrake's claims doesn't lend any extra weight to Sheldrake's unsupported unreasoned claims about SkepDic. -- 2600:8802:5913:1700:704D:330:4089:6908 (talk) 05:48, 29 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  undue weight of Rupert Sheldrake's opinion