Talk:Jonas Basanavičius

message: Lysy, grow up. It was simply a small trivial coincidence that I thought interesting. And you seem to be quite the afficinado of "trivia", and an editor that revels in trivial additions to WP, when it suits you. Let's leave it out, and make you happy. BTW, how could you find it to be conspiratorial? Maybe you need to rest up a bit. Dr. Dan 14:21, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Conspiracy Theory?

message: I strongly recommend that editors of this article spend more time discussing and less reverting. I've protected the page for a week in the hope that this will allow a resolution to be reached - mediation and other forms of dispute resolution may help. WjBscribe 19:01, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your reasonable effort.Iulius 19:06, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page protected

message: Seriously, 10 Ghits, of those 7 are from Wikipedia and its mirrors. Renata (talk) 08:14, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You'd get more if you'd go beyond first page of Google results :) And there are Google mirrors on Print/Book Search (). We all know what this is about, anyway :( --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  14:57, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no second Gresult page. Results 1 - 9 of 9 for "Jan Basanowicz". If you want to create a redirect - by all means go ahead. But putting in the lead with no good reason is WP:UNDUE. Renata (talk) 19:18, 12 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Sure thing, just somehow there are not a single sentence quoted, as it is requested since November (I'd like to hear the context it is mentioned, and maybe it is not Polish transcribtion but, well Bulgarian maybe, or maybe Czech since he spent many years there and there?). Also it would be nice, if no Gadu-Gadu contributors would participate in this obviously WP:POINT'ish attempts to support Polonization efforts. There is also Jerzy Waszyngton - I do wonder, why not put the name into lead of the corresponding article? I'm sure, you'd find much more references than supporting Basanavičius, and it is a factoid as one user calls it. As it is a much more numerous Juozapas Pilsudskis (I do find the second link and the citation about consistency the most illustrative in this case).--Lokyz (talk) 15:41, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding one of editors WP:PA and WP:OR  - one might read a signature here Act of independence of Lithuania. It is rather clear visible, and begins with Dr., not a guy.--Lokyz (talk) 22:50, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

text: As page was protected, now supporters of Polish "name" inclusion  have an opportunity to present undisputed evidences as WP:RS which would show legitimacy  of using it in EN wikipedia. Otherwise the newest "improvements" will go. M.K. (talk) 14:36, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They "will go" only if you present some evidence to the contrary, I already presented valid references you requested. And then defended them against vandals for several months. Let's be constructive: now it's your turn to present evidence that the Polish version of his surname is not used in the English-language publications (including the ones I provided). Might be hard, but why won't you try :) //Halibutt 02:22, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding "valid references" -  "Jean Laloy: La Pologne au XXe siècle" is not the English one, like this "Janusz Maciejewski: Przemiany formuły polskości w drugiej połowie XIX wieku " one too, wwhile this is EN wiki not a PL or FR. The only English ref presented is 1906 y. "The New International Encyclopaedia 12 LAT-MAN. (1906). Ed. Daniel Coit Gilman, Harry Thurston Peck", however there is no evidence presented that it uses Jan Basanowicz name, nor that this name is actually "Polish", therefore it violates WP:V. Therefore there is no evidence presented up to date of this name spread usage in EN publications. And finally regarding so called "defense against vandals", you already are placed on restriction list, you also formally warned by admin regarding WP:POINT campaign for the pushing irrelevant Polish names, you also was warned for the civility violations then causing established editors of vandalism and similar; and not counting systematical revert warring. Case quite clear. M.K. (talk) 07:54, 31 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Sorry, but that doesn't change a thing. And Polish names are as relevant as Lithuanian ones, as long as there are references. And here we have three. //Halibutt 22:55, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fringe name