Talk:Municipal Affairs Bureau

message: I ask again...is it still relevant for Macau to be defined as a number of cities?--Huaiwei 09:59, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Cities?

message: (copied from Wikipedia:Requested moves#April 2 2005) 
*Talk:List of cities and parishes in Macao – List of cities and parishes in Macao → List of districts and parishes in Macau – - There was no hard evidence provided that the Concelhos in Macau were "cities", and Macau is not regularly refered to as a collection of cities. Even if they were for some reason, the handover to the PRC has resulted in an administrative overhaul which saw the municipal councils abolished, replaced by a central administration. The territory is no longer adminstered as seperate cities/towns/entities.--Huaiwei 05:58, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: Re:  - Were the concelhos abolished altogether with the municipal organs (Câmara Municipal de Macau Provisória, Câmara Municipal das Ilhas Provisória, Assembleia Municipal de Macau Provisória and Assembleia Municipal das Ilhas Provisória)? Or do the concelhos nominally remain with no official duty like the freguesias? — Instantnood 18:38, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Concelhos

message: Regardless of the discussion going on above, which I respect but was getting nowhere, I am going to move this article (yet again) to Municipalities of Macau, under the following rationale:
# As of 2006 and since Macau became an SAR, there are no longer administrative divisions in Macau. No districts, no municipalities, no cities, no city councils, no parishes - whatever you call them, they were abolished. Only the seven-parish division remains, but for symbolic reasons only. The government of Macau administers Macau directly and as a whole, as I already wrote in Macau#Administrative_divisions. If you question this, please start on http://www.gov.mo and check the laws and the organograms - it's a very thorough site, although, as someone already wrote, there's a lot of care in not mentioning the former status of anything at all.
#There being no more administrative divisions, the only purpose of this article must be to tell the history of the administrative divisions of Macau. I will rewrite it to reflect this purpose.
#Since the most important administrative unit in the Portuguese system is the municipality (not the province, not the district, not the parish, not the "city"), then "municipality" should be in the title of this article.
#Articles about administrative divisions tend to have their title standardised in Wikipedia. The standard title for articles about municipalities is "Municipalities of (country)" with, if necessary due to article-size considerations, a companion article "List of Municipalities of (country)". Cf. :Category:Municipalities.
#The fact that Macau is not a country (and never was) should count against the title "Municipalities of Macau". However, that would leave the alternative of merging this article either with some article about the PRC or with article Municipalities of Portugal. Since this now is a historical article about municipalities created under Portuguese rule, it has nothing to do with the PRC, so that option makes no sense. But, since Macau was never part of Portugal (only a territory "on loan", pardon the expression) and since Municipalities of Portugal does not have a historical section, that option makes no sense either. So, Municipalities of Macau it should be, and I shall make it so now.
--maf 12:55, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving to [[Municipalities of Macau]] 

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