Talk:List of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles (1987 TV series) episodes

message: According to this link:
http://www.tv.com/teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-1987/show/2752/episode-guide-lacking-correct-air-dates/topic/2076-615398/msgs.html
"Planet of the Turtleoids" was aired on the 4th season, not 5th season. Can you please check this out, I am really confused if this episode was from 4th or 5th season. Also please note Wikipedia is not giving any air date, and IMDB is not listing the "Planet of the Turtleoids" parts 1/2 on their episode list.
Please take a look into the link provided above. Thanks!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.81.142.104 (talk) 04:17, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Some dates may indeed be wrong, but please refer to the official site for the correct episode order. Lumaga (talk) 05:48, 18 September 2008 (UTC)

text: As with everything on Wikipedia, we need to use a source for everything.  The source we have has split the episodes up differently as you have suggested, and this list reflects what the source has.  There are a few things that can be done, though.  A (cited) note can be made at the beginning of the relevant section, or we can find a reliable source (keyword reliable) that splits the list up as you recommended. Lumaga (talk) 06:22, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Somehow, I don't feel these two sites, The Big Cartoon Database and an IMDB trivia page, trump the official site.  The info could certainly be used as part of a season summary, I think.  What sort of consensus can we reach on how to structure the list? Lumaga (talk) 05:08, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, the list needs updating.  There is a surprising lack of helpful information on correct placement of episodes however, and in fact it seems that only overseas markets got the correctly ordered syndication packages.  I have the actual intended order of season 3 in my hands, but it doesn't count as a secondary source.  This site contains the list of production numbers and how they were tracked at the Library of Congress.  For the wiki list however, it should probably be separated by CBS network vs. USA network vs. syndication, and then splitting them up by production number like so:  Separate season by first number (9059 vs. 9060) and then sort by second number.  So you would have Season 1 Syndicated, Season 2 Syndicated, Season 3 Syndicated, Season 4 Syndicated, USA, CBS Season 1, CBS Season 2, etc... JoeD80 (talk) 22:33, 15 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Problem with list of episodes

message: I can work on creating brief summaries of the episodes.  Dodger55fan (talk) 22:21, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: To Do List

message: Is this stuff really notable? It's not like we're likely to have any pages on these episodes. - furrykef (Talk at me) 22:58, 7 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: An article has been started on the first episode of the show.  I saw the link to the article and happened to start it.  It is only the list of episodes. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 07:24, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Notibility

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message: I believe that the episode listed as 77, Once Upon a Time Machine (12th episode of season 4) is not actually in the season 4 box set, and is listed on other episode guides as the second episode of season 5.  I don't know if the season 5 reference is based on production number or what, but if it wasn't in the DVD box set for season 4, then that should be noted on the table.  Can someone who owns the DVDs confirm this, and correct it if necessary?  Thanks Thestorm042 08:13, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TMNT (1987) DVD Releases 

message: I plan on redirecting these per WP:EPISODE soon. Information from multiple secondary sources must be present for a single episode to need an article. This includes reception and development. Single plot summaries and trivia don't make a substantial article. I suggest Wikia and tv.com as alternate venues for this information. TTN 18:02, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's probably an ok idea since the articles are only plot summaries anyway.  However, please hold on doing this until this list has a short one- to two-sentence description of each episode.  It would  be very helpful to use these articles for reference. Lumaga 07:18, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest that the episode articles be transwikied to TMNTPedia.  It is a Wiki dedicated to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles franchise, and it is affiliated with Wikia. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 07:35, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems that plans for writing episode articles didn't pan out.  I think it's a good idea to remove the blue links since they're redirects to the list article and serve no other purpose.  If you want to write a summery write in in the list article.  VoL†ro/\/Force 01:05, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Single episodes

message: Where does the information for the original air dates come from?  IMDB, this guide, the infobox on the TMNT page, and even this list all have different dates!  Do the DVDs include information about when the episodes originally aired?  If so, this really should be cited.  Does anybody have any info? Lumaga 07:16, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode dates 

message: This is a boilerplate bit of advice to editors of television episode articles which have come under Wikipedia:Television episodes/Review.
There is fairly widespread consensus that not all television episodes are sufficiently notable to merit articles of their own in Wikipedia.  In the interest of fairness, the Wikipedia:Television episodes/Review process has been established, to determine whether it's possible to establish out-of-universe importance and real-world context for television episode articles.  For example, after uncontroversial discussion here, articles on individual episodes of The Simple Life were turned into redirects to List of The Simple Life episodes.
If you're interested in keeping episode articles, the key thing is to find reliable sources discussing individual episodes.  Sources which may help establish notability for these episodes include reviews in newspapers, discussion in specialist magazines, and detailed episode guides.   (Some of my fellow editors feel that episode guides aren't sufficiently independent of the subject to establish notability, but I disagree, especially for professionally published episode guides.)  The key thing for improvement of these articles is to include some real-world content (ratings are a good start) and information beyond plot summaries and cast lists.  If there are any books published about this series, see if the production or impact of individual episodes are discussed, and add that information to the episode articles.  If someone used sources like these books on a handful of these episode articles, to indicate that the episodes of this series have received sufficient coverage in reliable sources that any episode of the series could have encyclopedic coverage, I'd support leaving the other articles as they are, because the potential would have been demonstrated.  I hope that interested editors will take up this challenge, and improve the articles so that they won't be redirected.—Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 21:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
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message: The end of the article lists 3 titles for incomplete episodes, but when I searched on google, the *only* hit for these titles was from the wikipedia article.  Is there a source for these titles? JoeD80 (talk) 21:46, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure these episodes don't exist. Lumaga (talk) 05:15, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Incomplete episodes source?

message: In Incredible Shrinking Turtles and the following episodes, is it "Eye of Sarnoth" or "Eye of Zarnov"?  I always heard Sarnoth when I watched this show initially, but I had a book where I'm pretty sure it's spelled "Zarnov."  Unfortunately, I've lost this book.  Any one have this or another official source? JoeD80 (talk) 18:41, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling for "The Eye"

message: The article say that the turtles "switch side" in episode 97: "The Big Cufflink Caper!", does that mean they become evil?  Conty 20:35, 10 April 2010
::No, they just try to infiltrate the maffia by joining the mob. J 1982 (talk) 13:43, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Evil turtles?

message: The Series is also being released in Germany (Region 2) and is even far ahead of the UK Release:
* Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles - DVD Collection: Includes all 24 Episodes from the final 3 Seasons (German Audio Only), released July, 26th 2007 
* Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - Box 1: Includes the first 25 Episodes from the Show (Season 1, 2 and the first episodes from Season 3; English & German Audio), released March, 12th 2009 
* Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - Box 2: Includes 25 more episodes from Season 3 (English & German Audio), released May, 3rd 2010 
* Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles - Box 3: Includes the last episodes from Season 3, the first 2 of Season 4 and the complete European Vacation Side Season (English & german Audio), released July, 12th 2010  The European Vacation Episodes are placed between episode 1 and 2 of Season 4
Also all episodes which were also released in the UK, were first released in German so the Date in the Infobox should be edited, because the german released came first!91.114.225.179 (talk) 21:59, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Home Video Release 

message: Hi i was wondering does anyone know if the VHS "Teenage Mutant Hero Turtles - How it all Began" is this considered to be an episode or does it have a different name on the episode list.  http://www.amazon.co.uk/Teenage-Turtles-How-Began-VHS/dp/B000OT8J28 Thanks Sfxprefects (talk) 16:26, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a clip from episodes 1, 2, 4 and 5, totally without episode 3. It should be mentioned that this was actually done back in 1989, but it's definately not an episode. J 1982 (talk) 18:38, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  How it all Began 

message: The Season 2 episodes "It Came From Beneath The Sewer" and "The Mean Machines" were deleted back in November 2012. Can someone put them back on the list? 110.174.166.224 (talk) 04:32, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 2 missing episodes 

message: If I want to watch the episodes in season 3 in chronological order, what is the correct order? For example, episode "Beneath These Streets" is episode number 19 and episode "April Fool" is episode number 20 but the first one has been aired in Sept. 25, 1989 and the latter one in Dec. 1, 1989. And episode 21 has been aired in Sept. 26. 1989. And there are also other seasons with this odd thing. Could someone please help me? (Omitti86) 13:49, 18 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The chronological order of the episodes? 

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message: The Bishop Turtles, Go West, Young Turtles and Irma's Gang, and Turtles Meets Irma are all fake.
:Yes, a rather astounding act of vandalism that appears to have been for every season and I think this is culprit: Special:Contributions/2601:204:DC00:C6E0:BD74:7590:B22B:EF93 You gotta hand it to them to do so much work for something so pointless!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.221.6.11 (talk) 06:28, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah it doesn't look like vandalism to me. It looks like they were correcting episode numbers to reflect how many were actually listed. Though if there is fake episode I think an official source would be helpful here. 2601:204:DC00:C6E0:5446:1045:8D74:ABE (talk) 07:06, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I may have misattributed the IP for the actual most destructive edits - there may be a few of 'em - but they did happen across many articles and I do wonder if this is just the beginning and many more "episodes" will keep appearing. I've noted a lot of activity like this with fake DVD & Blu-ray releases in the years in home video articles and I strongly suspect this may be connected to the many fake home video articles from places like the Fandom Ideas wiki among others.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.221.6.11 (talk) 14:33, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fake Episodes