Talk:Harvard–Yale football rivalry

message: The Game (Harvard-Yale) would be more appropriate than the current one.  As is noted, there are other schools with notable histories that have rivalries called "The Game."  It is not an issue of which is the best, but clarifying that there are multiple uses of the phrase.  An alternate claim is the University of Michigan-Ohio State University game.  It was first played in 1897 (H-Y in 1875) and has been an annual event since 1918 (H-Y since 1945).  There are 102 meetings of UM-OSU and 122 of H-Y.
Over the last 2 years there have been 73 uses of "the Game"+Harvard+Yale in headlines, lead paragraphs, terms of major papers on LexisNexis and more than 1,000 of "the Game"+Ohio State+Michigan.  Looking at the teams and players in the game, one can see the importance of the UM-OSU side: 18 national championships (Ohio State does not claim an additional 7), 9 Heisman Trophies, both have won a national championship in the last decade, 72 Big Ten Championships (some shared), and a combined record of 1,623-581-89 (72.72%).  They played in the famous Snow Bowl.  ESPN as called the game the greatest rivalry in college sports.  As I've said, I propose The Game (Harvard-Yale) and The Game (Michigan-Ohio State). Rkevins82 20:47, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually The Game is also used by the Lehigh University-Lafayette College game which is the most played rivalry in College Football, having been played 144 times since 1884.GCW50 04:13, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Rkevins that this page should be broken up.  I recommend making The Game (college football) a disambiguation page and The Game (Michigan-Ohio State) a redirection link to Michigan-Ohio State rivalry.  -TheMile 15:12, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur & agree with Rkevins and TheMile.  A disambiguation page listing Harvard/Yale, OSU/UM, Lehigh/Lafayette, etc., would be the best use for an article entitle "The Game". --JD79 03:52, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't think it is the case that people changing the name don't have respect for tradition, or lack knowledge of the history of college football.  The concern is that there are different uses of the term, "The Game." Rkevins (talk) 01:25, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: The first paragraph in the Trivia section talks about the 1968 Game.  I was there, a freshman in the Harvard bleachers at the north end of the field.  I am pleased with the article in reference [1]     I would like to add a bit of trivia related to this game, and I'm using the Talk page to ask whether anyone else recalls the event I'm about to describe.
As the article details, Harvard took a shellacking early, and the event seemed less a contest than a public whipping.  At some point during the second half, I think Brian Dowling and Calvin Hill both pretended to be injured on the same play.  They lay on the ground long enough for a shocked hush to come over the crowd.  I mean, here were the only two stars in the game, both down on the same play!  Then they both jumped up and trotted back to the huddle.  I thought their behavior was a playful prank, and I was amused.  But it also seemed to underscore the disdain that Yale felt toward Harvard's ability to put up a good game.  (Yes, we were defensive.)
Does anyone else recall this mock injury?
Charlie Marlin 22:24, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  An Incident That May Have Happened in the 1968 Game 

message: Someone vandalised the page by changing Yale and Harvard to Michigan and Ohio State, I undid the vandal's changes.
192.147.57.6 21:53, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: See Army-Navy, Alabama-Auburn, Duke-North Carolina, UCLA-USC, and Cal-Stanford for other examples of the use of logos in rivalry pages.--2008Olympianchitchat 02:33, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Logos

message: The second reference: "Yale Daily News - Tailgate relocated to 175 N. Harvard St" no longer works. Dick Kimball (talk) 19:24, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  External References 

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message: Whoever stripped naked in 2016 needs to be added.  http://tamu.247sports.com/Bolt/Look-Yale-students-strip-nude-cause-delay-during-Harvard-game-49097694
Also, I was there for the 1992.... and part of the event.  But I can't list myself as a citation. :)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:304:6824:D8D0:FD54:E662:E0FA:1D67 (talk) 00:27, 20 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  2016 stripping naked... 

message: This is H puff piece. Suggest massive edit. 127W111 (talk) 13:09, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tone 

message: Why was it absent from entry? This entry is wtitten horribly! 127W111 (talk) 12:22, 24 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to list of Game results 

message: Pranks is ripe for exclusuion. Only undergrads rather than a general reader might care.
The Flag might be appropriate in NOTABLE GAMES, w mention of first time Flag appeared; otherwise, this is poorly written pr for Harvard. 127W111 (talk) 18:14, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Some of the Harvard-Yale pranks are WP:NOTABLE, having gotten coverage in local, and in some cases, national media. The claims made certainly need to be backed up by references to WP:RS.  Reify-tech (talk) 20:08, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pranks and Harvard Flag 

message: Section is poorly sourced and written. Suggest flag is a "little" rather than "big" deal. 127W111 (talk) 10:07, 4 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Little Red Flag 

message: ENTRY appears to me to be balanced and improved since say Election Day 2016. What's your opinion? 127W111 (talk) 13:55, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: Y is Harvard logo larger than Yale logo? 127W111 (talk) 04:14, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo size 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: A Harvard student managed to get the Yale Daily News to publish an article in which the first word of every sentence spelled out "EPSTEIN DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF A YALE GRAD DID IT" as part of a smack talk tradition between the YDN and the Crimson. 
This was my proposed change. 2607:FB60:1011:2006:6CD9:2208:95DF:70D6 (talk) 01:09, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't see this talk page discussion, but I've just removed this from the article again because it's unclear to me exactly what it has to do with football rivalry, unless we're calling any and all "Yale-Harvard rivalry" incident(s) football related, which seems, to me at least, odd.If I'm missing some nuance (e.g. the alluded-to "annual tradition") then my apologies, but it would be nice if the football connection was clearer if it's re-added, because there are doubtless other readers as uneducated in the H-Y "traditions" as I am, who might be similarly confused. I've no objection at all to re-insertion if the connection is clear for the "layperson", no need to even ping me. Cheers. -- Begoon 03:54, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  2019 Prank 

message: As part of a yearly tradition, The Harvard Crimson staff writer Cade Palmer’s smack talk column was published in the Yale Daily News. Unbeknownst to the Yale student paper, the first letter of every sentence in Palmer’s piece spelled out, “EPSTEIN DIDNT KILL HIMSELF A YALE GRAD DID IT.” The article was a clear reference to the popular conspiracy theory suggesting that Yale Law School graduate Hillary Clinton murdered Jeffrey Epstein.
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:I didn't see this talk page discussion, but I've just removed this from the article again because it's unclear to me exactly what it has to do with football rivalry, unless we're calling any and all "Yale-Harvard rivalry" incident(s) football related, which seems, to me at least, odd.If I'm missing some nuance (e.g. the alluded-to "annual tradition") then my apologies, but it would be nice if the football connection was clearer if it's re-added, because there are doubtless other readers as uneducated in the H-Y "traditions" as I am, who might be similarly confused. I've no objection at all to re-insertion if the connection is clear for the "layperson", no need to even ping me. Cheers. -- Begoon 03:54, 6 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: 2019

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