Talk:Commodore 16

message: On paper, the C16 is a closer match for the TI-99/4A than the aging VIC-20
How is the C16 considered a closer match to the TI?
    TI-99/4a
    32 hardware sprites
    16 colors
    SN76489 PSG
    C16
    No hardware sprites
    121 colors
    2 tone generator
I admit the resolution is a closer match, but I would put the scale like so:
    VIC-20 • • • C16 • • • • • • • • • • TI-99/4a
The C16 certainly had some things going for it...especially over the VIC-20.  But I wouldn't call it a quantum leap.  The hardware sprites of the TI and the PSG really put it in a different class above them both.    — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbmeeks (talk • contribs) 12:55, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: In your own line there you put the C16 closer to the TI-99 than the VIC-20. I think you're interpreting the original phrase incorrectly; I read it as, "The C16 compares to the TI-99/4A better than the VIC-20 compares to the TI-99/4A." Cjs (talk) 06:53, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Comparison to TI-99/4a

message: >>"The C16 was intended to compete with other sub-$100 computers from Timex Corporation, Mattel, and Texas Instruments (TI). Timex's and Mattel's computers were less expensive than the VIC-20, and although the VIC-20 offered better expandability,[3][4] a full-travel keyboard, and in some cases more memory, the C16 offered a chance to improve upon those advantages. The TI-99/4A was priced in-between Commodore's VIC-20 and Commodore 64, and is somewhat between them in capability, but TI was lowering its prices. On paper, the C16 is a closer match for the TI-99/4A than the aging VIC-20."<<
This is just a mess.  Timex left the market before the C16 was even released, the Mattel Aquarius barely sold at all and the Adam was much much more expensive.  The TI99 was a much more expensive 16 bit machine that had been around for ages and was sold miles below its cost of production.  The Vic 20 had the least RAM and expansions were incompatible with each other because the memory changed.
The C16 had the same resolution as the C64 but a simpler and less idiosyncratic kernal, expandable without the memory problems of the Vic.  Its main competition would have been the 16k Atari 400.101.178.163.92 (talk) 02:59, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  market 

message: What the heck does "raison d'etre" mean? Might want to change this header. --Anonymous
:Thanks for mentioning it; I've now put in a lk to Wiktionary's definition of the term (which means "reason for existence"). --Wernher 23:05, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: "''Raison d'être''"???

message: Should really be given greater mention in the article. Or at least a picture would be nice. The C116 was actually the normal or original version of this computer, intended to combat the low-low-low-cost market at the time taken by ZX-81s and Spectrums. Some managerial muppet though it would never sell in America so they got the Japanese engineering department to make the C16 for the American market. They're the same exact computer just in different cases (presumably they figured the ubiquitous 'breadbin' witha proper keyboard would sell better than the sleeker new 264/+4 case with dead-flesh keys).
It's sad really, the whole TED series debacle is a cringe-inducing story.
Seek100 00:03, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: C116

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message: I hate seeing these blasted eBay photos representing some of the best computers ever made.
I uploaded some nice shots for the VIC-20.  I will do the same for the C-16 soon.
cbmeeks  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbmeeks (talk • contribs) 10:56, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: best computers ever made? they were cheap. cheaply designed, cheaply produced, and cheaply programmed for. don't confuse nostalgia with quality.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 15:12, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New photo coming soon 

message: Much better pictures.  I hate seeing eBay/iPix photos of these vintage computers.  They deserve better.
~cbmeeks  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cbmeeks (talk • contribs) 13:22, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I remember seeing this in the Xmas 83 or 84 Service Merchandise catalog, along with the Plus/4  and TI 99/2 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.110.223 (talk) 14:37, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added better pictures 

message: How many of Commodore 16 were sold?  Does anyone have reference(s)?  Please add to the "unitssold" field of the infobox, similar to Commodore 64 and Commodore 128.  Thanks.  • Sbmeirow • Talk • 11:31, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Units Sold? 

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message: Commodore 16 was sold in Argentina by Drean, a home appliances manufacturer. The computer was sold under the name "Drean Commodore 16". It started selling in 1985 in local home appliances stores, as well as the "Drean Commodore 64". The main difference from the original USA model is the TED (Text Editing Device) chip, responsible for audio and video, that was adapted to local TV standard PAL-N. The box and the user manual were distributed in spanish, and many games were also translated into this same language and sold as cassettes branded by Drean. External devices such as the 1531 Datassette or the 1341 Joystick were also sold under the same brand.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MarianoApicella (talk • contribs) 23:34, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Argentina