Talk:All your base are belong to us/Archive 3

message: As you may have noticed in the box at the top of this page, I have put this page back up for FA status. If it's important to you one way or the other, please click the "leave comments" link here or in the top box above. ⇒ BRossow T/C 16:05, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Featured Article Candidate again

message: Is there a reason the spoken word version links has been removed from the article?  While it's fine to have the link here in discussion, it limits average reader access to it. I suggest it be put back in the article. It's actually a very well done reading of it. --Lendorien 22:24, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The spoken word version is nowhere close to the current content of the article.  It was a good enough reading (ignoring the slight speech impediment, anyway) but it might as well have been randomly linked to some other article's reading, given the wholesale changes to this article since the recording was made.  IMHO, of course.  :-) ⇒ BRossow T/C 23:31, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoken word version not in article

message: I have taken it upon myself to archive dated material from this Talk page as well as the main page, as some of you may have noticed. Specifically, I have moved all material dated prior to January 2006 from the Talk page as well as all but a few media references and all other references from the main page.  Links to these archives are at the top of this Talk page.
I implore all of you to help return this article to its former quality as a Featured Article.  You can do this in a number of ways:
#Refrain from adding spurious media, video game, or other AYB references except for exceptional cases that garnered significant media attention or used the phrase in a way so unique as to merit inclusion in a professional-quality encyclopedia.
#Think carefully about any information you add to the article before you add it to the article.  Is it pertinent?  Does it have broad interest or is it just an in-joke between you and your clique of friends?  Does it add to the overall value of the article?  Is it integral in helping define the phrase in question?
#Carefully edit your work before adding to the article.  If you know your grammar is not exactly top-notch, post your contribution here on the Talk page instead and someone else will be more than happy to edit it and add it to the main page.  It's a lot easier to do it that way than for someone to have to edit or, worse, revert the main page because of amateur editing efforts.
#Ask here before making any major changes to the structure or content of the main article.  A concerted effort is underway to help this article meet Wikipedia standards and seemingly random additions hinder that effort.
Thanks for your cooperation!  --BRossow 21:39, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!!! Magic Pickle 20:51, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archiving and adding information 

message: I noticed this article is entirely without citations, much less solid ones. If no one feels like digging up any, I'm going to nominate this for defeaturing. Further, the varrious lists in the article and the externals are too probably a little to long. I'd fix those myself, but I don't want to be accused of mucking up the article before nominating it to be defeatured.  --Gmaxwell 05:38, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  No citations? 

message: Have you noticed MediaWiki's reference to AYBABTU on their Bugzilla page?
Just wondering. rmccue 05:49, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  MediaWiki reference 

message: Are three really necessary? They just clutter the article needlessly. Pick the best one and comment out the other two. --Michiel Sikma 22:17, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three alternative translations 

message: I've already pared back the references and translations, so now I'm giving fair warning that the external links are up next on the chopping block.  If anyone cares to suggest links that must be preserved on the main page, please speak up quickly and explain your position.  Remember, people, that this USED to be a featured article.  Let's get it back to featured quality.  Thanks!  --BRossow 03:50, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have done this effective today, given no opposition here. --BRossow 02:58, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links need trimming 

message: BTW this phrase was a cheat in StarCraft pc game that appeared first in 1998, so it's not only 2000 and 2001 phenomenon. --GolerGkA 08:58, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A single cheat code in one game does not constitute a phenomenon, IMHO. Regardless of whether or not it had a function in StarCraft before 2000, its popularity did not explode until the new millenium. --BRossow 16:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Date questioned

message: I recall that during the heyday of this almost every yahoo link included ayb=btu in it somewhere.  I kick myself heartily for never getting a screen shot.  Nobody happens to have one do they?  JohnCub 00:17, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't remember this, but a good place to do some searching might be at http://web.archive.org. --BRossow 01:25, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: AYB in society

message: Is it known who was the original writer/translator at Toaplan/Sega who coined these phrases?
It's surprising that he never seemed to come out of the shadows ....
--84.115.129.76 14:37, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The original writer/translator 

message: I hate to bring this up, but are the original text and animation from the game copyrighted?  Fishal 16:34, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. In fact, it says so on the image page. --Pagrashtak 17:48, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright violation? 

message: I've heard that someone redid the AYB sequence to scenes from the finale of BSG... anyone know where to find them? -- Jbamb 16:26, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the one; it seems to be an abbreviation that only the fans get... If you're looking for it, YouTube will almost definitely have a copy. ItaniKnight 11:57, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  AYB and BSG 

message: This article has really improved since about a month ago. Keep up the good work! And the TOCRight really makes it look better. — Ilyanep (Talk) 16:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How Ironic that I must post that right when this is nominated as a good article :P — Ilyanep (Talk) 16:40, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wow(2) 

message: Promoted.  Very nice work -- next stop, featured article status again! Air.dance 06:15, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Good Article

message: Please help build policy at: Wikipedia:Notability (memes).  Thank you, --Urthogie 15:30, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  new policy on internet memes proposed 

message: It'd be nice to see a section on variations in general- we could use as an example the Wikipedia version of All Your Base... --maru   (talk)  contribs 03:42, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Variations 

message: I recall back when I last investigated this craze, there was some serious controvercy surrounding it. The most widely known flash video, featuring a (what I thought to be a remix) of "Invasion of the gabber robots" and the imfamous image edits was done without the permission of any of the artists or properly crediting them, and a bit of a spat erupted at the time.
Although this is perhaps secondary to the subjact matter itself, it does highlight issues of copyright in the production of comedy flash videos. It also became a bit of a lesson for the community to either ask, or be accepting of your newfound fame.
I'll have a search for sources to verify this at some point, but given a few of the more notoriously wild websites may have to be dug through, it may take some time. If anyone else recalls this, or can provide evidence, please do!
147.188.27.3 22:08, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy over CRC32 Flash video usage of images? 

message: YouTube's AYB message was reported on IT media, which is a news site provided by SoftBank. According to the article, the message was shown since noon until 16 o'clock (JST, UTC+9) in 2 June.--Mochi 15:28, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: YouTube

message: Okay, someone went through a lot of effort a while back to cut the "AYB in popular culture" down to the verifiable references that drew some level of media attention. Over the last couple weeks, we've started to have some uncited (and IMHO non-notable) game references creep back into the article. Can we come to some kind of consensus about what is appropriate for this section?
Some people are clearly interested in every single occurance of AYB, but that would fill endless pages and would detract from an article which (at some point at least) was being prepared for WP:FAC. Perhaps it would be useful to create a new page, such as List of occurances of "All your base are belong to us", where game references can reside, and limit the main AYB page to incidents with some sort of media coverage (even CNET news, like one of the current references).
So basically, my proposal is:
#The main All your base are belong to us will only contain incidents which received some sort of media coverage (reputable internet news sources apply).
#A new article will be created, entitled List of occurances of "All your base are belong to us" (or some better name), which can contain any occurances of AYB one wishes to list.
#The See also section of All your base are belong to us will contain a link to List of occurances of "All your base are belong to us" (or, if preferred, the link can be in the AYB in popular culture section).
Quick poll?
*Support, because it was my idea :-) --JerryOrr 11:34, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: JerryOrr spent  time setting up the List of cultural references to "All your base are belong to us" page and once again a few (3 or 4) far less notable mentions have crept up in the 'References in popular culture' section. Does anyone object to having items 6, 7 and 10 moved to or combined into List of cultural references to "All your base are belong to us" --Mattarata 22:16, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-media references 

message: The article says:
...
"Somebody set up us the bomb" or its derivative, "Somebody set up us the bomb" ...
Anyone know what derivative the user was intending to quote?
--Snograt 04:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed - the derivitive is "Someone", coming from a mistake in "Invasion of the Gabber Robots".  Good catch. :) --Sparky Lurkdragon 05:09, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  from "Related Phrases and Usage" 

message: The Phrase "all your base are belong to us" is comeletely and annoyingly bad grammar.  It should be something like All of your bases now belong to us.  Or All of your bases are ours now.  Because of the word all, base should be plural, bases.  the phrase are belong is incorrect.  The phrase is idiotic and stupid and should be changed to be correct.  Opinions? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jpolster2005 (talk • contribs).
:Yes, it is bad English grammar - it's bad to the point that a lot of people think it's hilarious, myself included.  That's the entire point of the fad; it wouldn't be nearly as funny or memorable if Zero Wing had been translated properly. --Sparky Lurkdragon 01:08, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: RTFA!! OzOz 18:56, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it shouldn't. Why? Because thats why it IS. The video in which this wiki is about has the correction version "All your base belong to us". It would be pointless to change it. Disinclination 01:42, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

text: The fact that it's wrong is the entire point. Correcting it would be destroying it. 65.95.157.80 06:11, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad Grammar! 

message: Should Kilroy was here this be linked in the 'see also' section?
That and André the Giant Has a Posse should be.  Is there any reason they shouldn't?  "All your base are belong to us" is quickly becoming a contemporary and cultural equivalent. --69.162.184.145 06:14, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kilroy was here 

message: Why is AYB in flash not included in the links list? It has the best quality and smallest filesize of the ones I've seen, and I came to this page specifically looking for that, so I think it would be a good addition. Poromenos 00:12, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  All Your Base flash video? 

message: YouTube (Base on Samuel L Jackson's Snakes on a plane)
:Yeah, I made the picture  back in March of '06. Definitely not noteworthy, but something just for the fans. Zchris87v 04:01, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  All your snakes are belong to us 

message: Well nevermind I guess no one wants to delete this, I saw a user box that suggested otherwise :) Mathiastck 04:19, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait hold on, why is this marked as low importance?  Was that the consensus in the past?  The line marks a turning point in gaming culture!  It may outlive wikipedia, even if it's original referent disappears into obscurity.  Mathiastck 04:20, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Keep! 

message: I'm surprised that no mention of the Time magazine cover story is mentioned.  It seemed like a large event in the history of the phenomenon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Arcadina (talk • contribs).
:That Time cover - the one that's in the flash, at any rate - was Photoshopped. I think there was a mention of AYB in Time later on, and the 'shopped pic was included, but I don't know if it was a cover story. --Sparky Lurkdragon 15:16, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time Magazine 

message: In the image showing the game's intro:
:Image:AllYourBaseAnimated.gif
At the line "You have no chance to survive make your time", one character appears on the screen but a shadow of the person previously there is left in front of him. This looks like an animation error; does it actually happen in the game?
I'd have linked to the image page itself rather than posting the image inline but I don't know how, heh. 65.95.157.80 06:18, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't remember how it goes exactly, but I'm pretty sure the foreground fades to black while CATS fades in. —Ragdoll 22:05, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  GIF error? 

message: I noticed that on the website www.mess.be (for MSN messenger addons and stuff) has an image in their title that switches through various things, including "Don't mess with the Lord, mess with MSN messenger"... And one of them is "Don't mess us up the bomb, mess with MSN messenger."
Does that count as something to add to the article? - All your wikipedia articles are belong to the public. 11:21, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other uses 

message: I don't know how to edit it properly.
http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/9591/megamanaybabtugq0.png .
It's from the game Megaman Battle Network for the Gameboy Advance (2001).
:I don't think it would be a good addition to the article. However if you feel it really should be added, please read WP:PIC. --Mattarata 03:53, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  can anyone add this? 

message: I reverted all of the last 10 edits. Everything from here to here is crap. If anyone has any objections, feel free to discuss here and I will be happy to reconsider. --Mattarata 14:39, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, what did you edit? I can't seem to see any obvious difference between your two links. ItaniKnight 12:14, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is because there is no difference between the two links I provided. The first is the original version, the second is a revert back to the original. Look at the edits in between to see the stuff i removed by reverting back.--Mattarata 14:03, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK, sorry. :) ItaniKnight 11:33, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits 

message: What text to speech program is used in the most famous flash animation? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.123.210.30 (talk) 23:06, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Text to Speech? 

message: I tagged a bunch of lines with  because they made unsupported claims and it was non-obvious where these claims came from. --Quirex 18:09, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  There are a lot of lines which are unsupported analysis 

message: I know that technically we aren't supposed to add links to uncyclopedia, but on uncyclopedia there is an all your base animation that is about Wikipedia that really is quite funny. Should I add it or will it just get deleted? It does show how commonly the all your base quotes are used as jokes in culture. Thanks. Ilikefood 23:13, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncyclopedia 

message: This article doesn't have a short and concise introduction. There is almost a full screen of text before hitting the TOC. The first two sentences, followed by a closing sentence would probably provide a nice introduction and the rest of the text could be put in a new section titled "History". Any comments? Hose502 05:23, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea.  I've taken a first crack at it. RossPatterson 07:51, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Looks great! Hose502 21:25, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction 

message: What about reinstating some of the translations lost in [ this edit], now that Zero Wing (translations) has gone the way of dodo?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.140.237.98 (talk) 04:54, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Shouldn't these go into Wikisource, seeing as they're full translations and not just excerpts? Orpheus 03:59, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess you could move the Original Japanese text, Literals, and Alternative "free text" translations to wikisource as long as you add a link to it and make the necessary adjustments.--88wolfmaster 07:10, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translations 

message: Per the comments on this talk page and the comment in the page source, I've pruned (and archived to the list page) all cultural references that aren't notable. The notability criteria established above and in the comment is "Media coverage". Personally, I interpret that as meaning that the cultural reference must include a citation referring to an established media outlet that reported on it. Referring to the reference itself (how circular) isn't enough, it has to be third party coverage. Dissent welcomed.
Orpheus 23:40, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable references in popular culture 

message: I agree that it's funny, but is it really necessary for an encyclopedia article? 80.235.60.139 18:18, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Babelfish translation 

message: do any of you think there should be two slanted exclamation points after the title? that is how it was in the game
:I think that's just how the typeface was in the game -- every character has a fixed width, and they wanted to full up the whole block... or something. Tsunomaru 04:53, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  All your base are belong to us''!!'' 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Annotated mp select halo.gif

message: Is it just me, or does this section have absolutely nothing to do with this article?JoeyGWilliams 22:35, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: See also

message: I think a notable reference should be added, in the first installment of the SOCOM series by Zipper interactive, the narrarator will say "Target destroyed, SEALS Victorious! ... All your base are belong to us." When the SEAL team wins by demolishion on the swamp map "The Ruins".
: It's notable if you can find a media reference that covers it. If you've got one, go ahead and add it. Orpheus 13:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  SOCOM U.S. Navy SEALs Playstation 2 Video Game 

message: On Newgrounds, it is called 'All Your Base R Belong to us'. It might have been shortened to save space, I don't know. 
24.17.233.201 04:48, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is that the correct name? 

message: Is the reference in xkcd (http://xkcd.com/286/) significant enough to warrant entry? 79.65.205.93 23:34, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  xkcd