Talk:Fritz (chess)

message: Its AFD debate agreed to do so. Johnleemk | Talk 09:51, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Frans Morsch]] merged here

message: The reference for my edit adding the clarification about the Fritz-Deep Thought match (that Fritz' opening book was what accounted for the win) was the news page reporting on that tournament at that time:
http://www.cs.unimaas.nl/icga/news/events/pastevents/WCCC8/latest.html
That page seems not to be currently available from that URL but it is accessible via Google's cacahe:
http://www.google.com/search?q=cache:www.cs.unimaas.nl/icga/news/events/pastevents/WCCC8/latest.html
I believe I also read about this in Hsu's book about Deep Blue (Behind Deep Blue) but my copy is currently out on loan so I'll have to wait to cite this source. - Hayne 09:12, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fritz vs Deep Thought (Deep Blue prototype)

message: I edited the main page to add some information about Pocket Fritz. I mentioned Chessbase's lack of support with this product. (Chessbase have changed their online database, so a feature that did work in Pocket Fritz 2, no longer does). There was a link to this as a newgroup article, but someone added "citation needed". I've changed the link slightly, so it's a bit more obvious, but it was there before on the same web page. This was quoted in an email I received from Chessbase. The actual sentance is "I informed the developers again. The feature does not have a high priority, but it should naturally work! I hope that clarifies this. 
From
Peter Schreiner
ChessBase GmbH
I informed the developers again. The feature does not have a high priority, but it should naturally work !
Kind regards
-Peter Schreiner
:Wikipedia is not a support forum. I've removed your compaints. --IanOsgood 21:00, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Priority of fixing Pocket Fritz database problem

message: There are many Fritz articles floating around in Wikipedia-land. They're short enough to be all combined here. Xiner 21:18, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. I'll add the merge templates. I also think the X3D Fritz game scores should be deleted for brevity; the main article already provides a link to those games. --IanOsgood 20:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not in favour of deleting the games scores; with the intro and diagrams they form a nice resource. Indeed, the man-machine matches are worthy of better coverage. My suggestion is to merge the software content of the articles under Fritz (chess) and create a new article Fritz - man v machine to deal with the three matches. This would also absorb Brains in Bahrain converting 5 articles into 2. If this is acceptable I will do the work. BlueValour 20:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine by me (though using the chessboard template for the positions would be more consistent). Do you know where I can read about Wikipedia's guidelines for 1) whether to include chess game scores (e.g. notability) and 2) the suggested formatting conventions? --IanOsgood 04:37, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the template point (but I'm not volunteering to convert since that's not my thing}. There are no guidelines as such but if you take a look at the article FIDE World Chess Championship 2006, the formatting there was the result of much discussion and seems a de facto standard. BlueValour 04:50, 14 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Merged Deep Fritz. Will let X3D Fritz simmer, maybe merging to new article as suggested. --IanOsgood 18:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge proposal: all the Fritz versions in the world

message: The article says "Kramnik played surprisingly weak".  I asked for a citation. A link was given to his bad blunder in one game.  That was a surprizingly bad move, but otherwise he didn't play weakly, as far as I can tell.  Is there a reference to his playing weakly throughout the match?  Bubba73 (talk), 15:13, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kramnik played weakly? 

message: The following one:
:On October 4, 2006, in the course of the FIDE World Chess Championship 2006 between Vladimir Kramnik and Veselin Topalov, Topalov's manager Silvio Danailov issued a press release including what it labeled "coincidence statistics" between the play of Kramnik and moves recommended by the Fritz 9 software. Given Danailov's previous characterization of Kramnik's frequent bathroom visits as "strange, if not suspicious", this was widely interpreted as a tacit accusation of Kramnik cheating through the use of the Fritz software. However, the Danailov press release did not offer Topalov's own percentages for comparison. Moreover, subsequent analysis showed that, using similar statistics, one might infer that the Cuban chess legend José Raúl Capablanca cheated using Chessmaster 9000 software back in 1918—decades before the software was available.
Now, this is interesting, but: 1) has absolutely nothing to do with Fritz, even if the allegations were true, and 2) is covered elsewhere in greater detail (both World Chess Championship 2006 and Veselin Topalov). And yes, there's: 3) the reasoning in the last sentence is faulty: one can not "infer" a theory which is consistent but not possible (Capa cheating with CM9000 in 1918 while presumably not moving away from the board), but one certainly can infer a theory that is both consistent and possible (Kramnik going many times to his private bathroom and consulting Fritz) - but this story belongs elsewhere anyway. GregorB (talk) 19:11, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed paragraph 

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message: "Fritz" shouldn't be italicised, as it is at the top of this article and its infobox. What can be done about that? Toccata quarta (talk) 16:35, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italics 

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