Talk:Autism spectrum/Archive 2

message: Me and my mother who is a professional in the field had a chance to review part of the article (not as much as I hoped... we'll have more time in a couple weeks) and she asserts with 100% certainty that rett syndrome is not (or is no longer) considered a autism spectrum disorder... many sources are available to back this up, such as 1 and 2 - she suggested putting it under a new heading "Other neurological(sp) conditions".  Also, she took objection to the notion that it is a "controversial" disorder... but I'm unsure whether removing that will make the intro too POV... so I'll leave it in for now and come back to it as time allows.
--RN 04:39, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Rett syndrome/review

message: OK, from button to top....  
First off, the puzzle-laden ribbon... I really think this should be moved to a more appropriate page such as autism controversies and explained in more detail why some (probably many) feel it to be derogatory.
 Dedicated to the eradication of autism.
Should be "Dedicated to finding a cure for autism" to be more politically correct
"Autistic Pride Day, an initiative from Aspies For Freedom, is on 18 June each year, st[...]"
How is this a "major autism event"?  This is a fringe group at best... I understand the point of the cause but I really think a link would be much more appropriate as this can be offensive to some people ("Acceptance not cure")... at the very least it should not pretend it represents all autistics
"Aspies for freedom"
Two notes:  First off this generally should belong in the aspergers section as at least that is what "aspies" (more in-crowd speak too that makes this article hard to read) generally refers to.... secondly it goes to the points raised above that this should really be a link - plus there are several other wikipedia articles that reference the cause in great detail - this should really be kept understandable for the parents etc..
Some autistic adults, especially those with high-functioning [...]
This is kind of hard to read... my suggestion would be rewording as follows
Some autistic adults are able to work successfully in mainstream jobs, usually those with high-functioning autism or Asperger's syndrome.  Nevertheless, communication and social programs often cause difficulties in many areas of the autistic's life.
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 It is estimated that 10% of autists are savants, compared to 1/2% of other people.
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Where's the reference?  Estimated by whom?
"Autism and computing"
Anything past the first sentence in this paragraph is filled with jargon and -  I really think this section could be helpful to parents etc. if it was reworded to mention that using emails and other computer communication methods help with some autistics (milage does vary quite a bit, however...).   Also Monotropism was (attempted to be) explained previously in the article...
"Other theories address the rise of autism in recent times. They suggests the rise of visual media and thereby the increasing central role of visual information processing in the breakdown of language and the rise of autism."
Where's the reference for this?  It sounds like complete nonsense... also suggests should be suggest et al.
"The analysis of autism as "mind blindness"—the inability to create models of other people's thoughts. The typical example of this is "where does X look for the object they stored, but which was moved by Y"—see theory of mind. Not all autistics fit this pattern, however."
Should be "mental models" instead of just models... also the last sentence isn't needed as its already mentioned its a theory (theory should be capitalized in the heading too).  In addition, the example is hard to understand... it should probably be changed to something similar to
"autistic looks for object at point X, but which was moved to point Y"
Even then its probably just better to reference theory of mind
"The underconnectivity theory indicates a deficiency in the coordination among brain areas (the brain is known to be modular). With the aid of (fMRI), it was seen that white matter, which connects various areas of the brain like cables, has abnormalities in people with autism."
the bit about the brian is known to be modular should be removed... its confusing at best and is sort of implied by the sentence.  Also, the parenthases around fMRI should be removed...
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 The underconnectivity theory holds that autism is a system-wide [...]
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This paragraph should be merged with the previous one, and the last sentence seems like it doesn't provide any benifit to the understanding of the theory.
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The monotropism hypothesis argues that the central feature of autism is attention-tunneling, or monotropism. [...]
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What's attention-tunneling?  This whole paragraph is pshycobabble and needs a rewrite to make it easier to understand...
Anyway, I'm out of time and that's part one... hopefully someday we can make this a featured article.  
--RN 23:34, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggested changes - part 1 (LONG)

message: Is social anxiety a symptom of autism? Scorpionman 22:15, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not according to the DSM, although apparently autism and anxiety are frequently diagnosed together.  —Simon 21:00, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Simon is right - although usually depression et al.  are not diagnosed officially until around the teen years.  In pretty much all cases there is some form of social anxiety resulting from the symptoms from  autism.--RN 21:42, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Social angst 

message: "Autistic children categorically lack" what does this mean? Rich Farmbrough 16:17, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: from the article "Autistic children categorically lack 'theory of mind', the ability to see things from another person's perspective" I'm not an expert, but I think this means, "Children in the autistic category lack"... Gbeeker 17:49, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It just means they just plain don't have it or posses it.  I just removed categorically from the statement - maybe it clears it up --RN 22:34, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  categorically 

message: (Links and reading references removed for FAC)
===Further reading===
*  (an interesting first person perspective on her experiences as a person with autism)
*  (apparent 'cure' through early diagnosis, dairy and gluten restriction and education)
*  (apparent 'cure' through a person-centred approach)
*  (book explores similarities between attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD) and the spectrum of disorders diagnosed as pervasive developmental disorders)
*  (note: the chapter "Autistic Echos" is about subclinical autism, autistic traits, and various case studies of people with different degrees of autism)
*  (Lawson is diagnosed with autism and is currently working for her PhD on autism and stress)
*  (Temple Grandin is diagnosed with autism and holds a PhD in animal science)
* 
*  
*  (a personal account of a mother with two autistic children and her fight to get her children back to normal via Lovaas behaviour modification techniques)
===External links===
*General Information
** Asperger's Syndrome World Community Aspergers Syndrome Online Community.
** Autism and the Ethnic Minorities UK 
** AIM Autism Awareness and campaigning in the UK
** Autism Today
** Association for Science in Autism Treatment (ASAT)
** Auties.org: Auties.org, promoting the entrepreneurial skills of people on the Autistic Spectrum.
** Autism and Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). ERIC Digest.
** Autism Information and Organizations
** Autism: An Overview and Theories on its Causes
** About.Com: Autism and Pervasive Developmental Disorders 
** Autism Turf Wars Describes some of the controversies about whether or not autistics can possess language, "high-functioning", etc.
** Autistic People Against Neuroleptic Abuse (APANA)
** Autism Symptoms - Medical Symptoms Pages Article about autism symptoms
** Before You Buy Toys for an Autistic Child 
** Crypto Sensitivity Syndrome Article by an autistic man discusses pros and cons of this change.
** Immune system may be a cause of Autism
** Connections Center - Relationship Development Intervention (RDI)
** Mental Health Matters: Autism
** Neurodiversity.com: Autism resources: honoring the variety of human wiring. 
** PECS (Picture Exchange Communication System), a technique for interacting with an autistic child who struggles to communicate.
** Quality Services for the Autism Community
** Resources for the Gluten-free, Casein-free diet
** Teaching Students with Autism. ERIC Digest.
** Autism Resources 
*Groups
** Autism and Computing, Autistic spectrum resources
** Autism Society of America 
** Autismspeaks.org Group that seeks to find a cure to autism through donations for clinical trials
** Autism Awareness Campaign UK
** Aspergian Pride Celebrating the accomplishments of autistic people; maintains an extensive directory of pride and advocacy links.
** clix.to/chemer AspergersWorld3: Group dealing with aspies and Care Givers.
** Autism Assembly Coalition of people on the autistic spectrum, groups and websites, as part of the global autism rights movement
** Autreat Annual gathering of autistic people in an atmosphere of open acceptance and accommodation.
** WrongPlanet.net: Online community and resource for those with Asperger's Syndrome 
** Supporting Parents of Children with Autism
** Information about possible treatments
** Jambav.com - 'We, at Jambav, believe we can come alongside you as a parent or teacher to help you discover and nurture your child’s hidden potential.' 
*Vaccine & Autism controversy
** The Age of Autism Series of articles from the Washington Times on the attempt to link mercury poisoning to autism.
** Autism & Mercury Poisoning
** U.S. Health Officials Deny Autism Link To Vaccines health.dailynewscentral.com
*Discussion and Chat
** Autismtalk
** ChatAutism Site and chatroom for anyone with an interest in autism.
** Autistichat Chatroom and Wiki for those on the autism spectrum, their family and loved ones.
** SpectrumHaven Website and forum for those on the autism spectrum
** Psych Forums: Autism Forum
** AspieTALK (United Kingdom & Ireland) Discussion Forums & Chat Room for Adults & Teens in the UK & Republic of Ireland with Asperger Syndrome. Includes regional forums (for example, Central England, Scotland, etc.)
*Personal Pages
** Aspies.co.uk: A personal site about helping a child on the autistic spectrum
** Donna Williams website: Personal pages of Donna Williams, author of Nobody Nowhere: The Remarkable Autobiography of an Autistic Girl (ISBN 1853027189). See also the Nobody Nowhere website.
** Jim Sinclair's Web Site: a personal site including articles by one of the earliest and least stereotypical proponents of the no-cure view
** My Experience Being Autistic Personal account by Jasmine O'Neill, author of Through the Eyes of Aliens (ISBN 1853027103). See also A Place For All.
** Autism and hyperlexia: one autistic person's perspective
** University Students With Autism And Asperger's Syndrome
** Ooops... Wrong Planet!..: A personal autism home page
** AutismLina Forum Personals Stories About Autism
** Autism.org - 'Autism and Medical Marijuana'
** ABA Resources for Recovery from Autism/PDD/Hyperlexia Site of a father with an autistic child who lists tons of information about ABA
--Ryan Norton T | @ | C 01:44, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:   Additional links and references 

message: *General Information
** Asperger's Syndrome World Community Aspergers Syndrome Online Community.
** Autism and the Ethnic Minorities UK 
** AIM Autism Awareness and campaigning in the UK
** Autism Today
** Association for Science in Autism Treatment (ASAT)
** Auties.org: Auties.org, promoting the entrepreneurial skills of people on the Autistic Spectrum.
** Autism and Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD). ERIC Digest.
** Autism Information and Organizations
** Autism: An Overview and Theories on its Causes
** About.Com: Autism and Pervasive Developmental Disorders 
** Autism Turf Wars Describes some of the controversies about whether or not autistics can possess language, "high-functioning", etc.
** Autistic People Against Neuroleptic Abuse (APANA)
** Autism Symptoms - Medical Symptoms Pages Article about autism symptoms
** Before You Buy Toys for an Autistic Child 
** Crypto Sensitivity Syndrome Article by an autistic man discusses pros and cons of this change.
** Immune system may be a cause of Autism
** Connections Center - Relationship Development Intervention (RDI)
** Mental Health Matters: Autism
** Neurodiversity.com: Autism resources: honoring the variety of human wiring. 
** PECS (Picture Exchange Communication System), a technique for interacting with an autistic child who struggles to communicate.
** Quality Services for the Autism Community
** Resources for the Gluten-free, Casein-free diet
** Teaching Students with Autism. ERIC Digest.
** Autism Resources 
*Groups
** Autism and Computing, Autistic spectrum resources
** Autism Society of America 
** Autismspeaks.org Group that seeks to find a cure to autism through donations for clinical trials
** Autism Awareness Campaign UK
** Aspergian Pride Celebrating the accomplishments of autistic people; maintains an extensive directory of pride and advocacy links.
** clix.to/chemer AspergersWorld3: Group dealing with aspies and Care Givers.
** Autism Assembly Coalition of people on the autistic spectrum, groups and websites, as part of the global autism rights movement
** Autreat Annual gathering of autistic people in an atmosphere of open acceptance and accommodation.
** WrongPlanet.net: Online community and resource for those with Asperger's Syndrome 
** Supporting Parents of Children with Autism
** Information about possible treatments
** Jambav.com - 'We, at Jambav, believe we can come alongside you as a parent or teacher to help you discover and nurture your child’s hidden potential.' 
*Vaccine & Autism controversy
** The Age of Autism Series of articles from the Washington Times on the attempt to link mercury poisoning to autism.
** Autism & Mercury Poisoning
** U.S. Health Officials Deny Autism Link To Vaccines health.dailynewscentral.com
*Discussion and Chat
** Autismtalk
** ChatAutism Site and chatroom for anyone with an interest in autism.
** Autistichat Chatroom and Wiki for those on the autism spectrum, their family and loved ones.
** SpectrumHaven Website and forum for those on the autism spectrum
** Psych Forums: Autism Forum
** AspieTALK (United Kingdom & Ireland) Discussion Forums & Chat Room for Adults & Teens in the UK & Republic of Ireland with Asperger Syndrome. Includes regional forums (for example, Central England, Scotland, etc.)
*Personal Pages
** Aspies.co.uk: A personal site about helping a child on the autistic spectrum
** Donna Williams website: Personal pages of Donna Williams, author of Nobody Nowhere: The Remarkable Autobiography of an Autistic Girl (ISBN 1853027189). See also the Nobody Nowhere website.
** Jim Sinclair's Web Site: a personal site including articles by one of the earliest and least stereotypical proponents of the no-cure view
** My Experience Being Autistic Personal account by Jasmine O'Neill, author of Through the Eyes of Aliens (ISBN 1853027103). See also A Place For All.
** Autism and hyperlexia: one autistic person's perspective
** University Students With Autism And Asperger's Syndrome
** Ooops... Wrong Planet!..: A personal autism home page
** AutismLina Forum Personals Stories About Autism
** Autism.org - 'Autism and Medical Marijuana'
** ABA Resources for Recovery from Autism/PDD/Hyperlexia Site of a father with an autistic child who lists tons of information about ABA
--Ryan Norton T | @ | C 01:44, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: External links