Talk:Pyramid Texts

message: Is there some reason why "pharaoh" is spelled "Pharao", or can I change that?
--Aurochs 17:12, May 12, 2005 (UTC)
Just a typo. Leibniz 17:20, 12 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling of Pharoh? 

message: The section "In Popular Culture", discussing the movie Stargate, says "Writing did not appear until the Fifth Dynasty structures."
This conflicts with the known occurrence of writing on some of the blocks of the Great Pyramid. In the article Great_Pyramid_of_Giza, one finds "One of the stones in Campbell's Chamber bears a mark, apparently the name of a work gang, which incorporates the only reference in the pyramid to Pharaoh Khufu".
The issue appears to me to be whether the sentence first quoted refers to the fiction depicted in Stargate, or to the facts of ancient Egyptian history. As written, this distinction is not made clear. If the sentence I'm objecting to is intended to be factual, it is wrong — or possibly just carelessly phrased.
Perhaps some Stargate enthusiast can review the movie and see if that's the source of the objectionable sentence.
Either way, some clarification seems to be in order. Unfortunately, I'm not in a position to sort out the issues and arrive at a definitive solution to them.
Floozybackloves (talk) 15:19, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There are no official writings, like the elaborate reliefs of late Old Kingdom mastabas or the New Kingdom royal tombs, in the Fourth Dynasty pyramids. People who like to argue that there's something weird about those pyramids—especially the Great Pyramid, which attracts most of the attention—like to repeat that fact to make it look like those pyramids couldn't have been intended as tombs. I think the Stargate film picked up that meme and mentioned it in passing. Then somebody apparently noted the existence of the Pyramid Texts and tried to rationalize the line in the film by saying "oh, they must have meant the Fourth Dynasty pyramids." This passage in the article is not only confusing but mostly irrelevant to the Pyramid Texts, so I think I'll just remove it. A. Parrot (talk) 18:27, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writing in the Fourth Dynasty 

message: www.dpedtech.com provided the link for http://www.pyramidtextsonline.com/library.html#openbook list of on-line resources (including translations) for further study retrieved 19/09/2011Drift chambers (talk) 13:54, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
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message: There is a passage in this article that claims that the Pyramid Texts are possibly the oldest known religious texts, with a note stating that some claim that the Kesh Temple Hymn is older.  I believe that it's pretty clear that the Kesh Temple Hymn predates the Pyramid Texts.  The oldest copies of the Pyramid Texts are found in the Pyramid of Unas. The accession of Unas is dated by the Oxford Project as ~2350 BCE based upon information gathered from radiocarbon dating.  Relative dating places his accession at sometime between 2321-2105 BCE. C. Bronk Ramsey, Andrew J. Shortland *Radiocarbon and the Chronologies of Ancient Egypt* Oxbow Books, 2013.  No method of dating that I am aware of places Unas any earlier than this.
The oldest extant copy of the Kesh Temple Hymn found in Abu Salabikh was originally dated by Robert Biggs based upon lexicography and relative dating to ~2600 BCE..Robert Biggs *Inscriptions from Tell Abu Salabikh*, University of Chicago Press, 1974, pp 24-26   Biggs is the source most commonly cited for the 2600 BCE dating of the Kesh Temple Hymn.  Subsequently, samples of organic material gathered by two different excavations of the Abu Salabikh site were radiocarbon dated by two separate labs to between 2550-2520 BCE. H. Wright, “Problems of Absolute Chronology in Protohistoric Messopotamia,” Paleoorient, vol 6, 1980, p 95 Both methods of dating place the Kesh Temple Hymn two centuries earlier than the Pyramid Texts.
I'd like to change the line that reads "They are possibly the oldest known religious texts in the world" to "They are often claimed to be the oldest known religious texts, though the oldest known version is predated by the Kesh Temple Hymn by about two centuries."  I'd also like to remove the note "A claim has also been put forth for the Sumerian Kesh Temple Hymn, which may be older." which no longer applies to the new line.
Acleverpseudonym (talk) 22:00, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claim that the Pyramid Texts are possibly the oldest known religious texts 

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message: I am a student at the University of Miami and I have chosen to work on improving this article for my class assignment. The link to the class can be found here. I am planning on making a few small addition to the leading section as well as adding a section on the Unis pyramid texts. Copied below are a few of the sources I will be using. If anyone has any recommendations for improvement or additional helpful sources please let me know! Also feel free to look at my Sandbox so see my ideas for improvement. Thanks! Emilyrd98 (talk) 15:14, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
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message: - I'm not doubting that this is true, but I can't find a damn thing on the subject. The only work that even mentions her is Dodson (2016) and he has less than a sentence to say about her. Google searching just brings up results for Meritites I, wife of Khufu. If anybody has a source for this, that'd be nice. Mr rnddude (talk) 00:19, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
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