Talk:Ethical challenges to autism treatment

message: I created the "Ethical challenges to autism treatment" article because the autism rights movement article was getting too big. The section on "Historic prognosis ..." I did not write but I do have some concerns about neutrality of that section. I was able to prefix some opinions in that section with things like "it is the opinion of autism rights activists ..." but I don't know enough about the topic to edit it more than that. I'd like for someone else who knows more about that topic to check that section and make sure it is neutral. Q0 03:28, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutrality of "Historic prognosis for permanently institutionalized autistic children"

message: The section historic prognosis for permanently institutionalized autistic children was flagged as having weasel terms.  Please try to improve as necessary. -Frazzydee|✍ 04:14, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weasel terms 

message: Medical professionals I have talked to, as well as an instruction for Swedish healthcare personell which I don't have anymore, stated that neuroleptics should never be administered to people with pervasive developmental disorders (I believe it mentioned ADHD and Asperger explicitly, though I assume the same goes for autism), unless it is the only way to prevent immediate risk of significant harm to the patient or others. The reason for this was, as I recall, that these people are more sensitive to long-term effects than neurotypicals. Anecdotally, I have PDD/NOS with features of ADD and Asperger, and got severe long-term effects from a single 5mg dose of Nozinan, including but not limited to severe cognitive, personality, motor and hormonal changes. Some of these have slowly started to reverse after 3 years, starting after a prolonged course of treatment with dopaminergic drugs. Of course, that can't be in the article, but it bears searching for further information about the topic. Zuiram 06:45, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neuroleptics 

message: The following section, without an outside citation, is original research and really shouldn't be in here.  Furthermore, it doesn't actually say anything about autism aside from OIL being one of the pioneers of autism treatment.  Wikipedia can't make arguments, it can only report pre-existing arguments from reliable sources. WLU 14:25, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research 

message: How can you possibly do a double blind study of a behavior modification technique?  I think it would always be pretty obvious to the subject whether they were receiving behavior modification or not.  That's like saying there are no double-blind studies proving that incisions in the skin cause bleeding.  71.63.105.172 16:30, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hence the need to use single-subject designs (either reversal or multiple baseline) -- glad to see that people are seeing through some of the straw-men being put up!Josh.Pritchard.DBA (talk) 04:48, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Double Blind for ABA 

message: Fenke, FC is not only used w/autism, but also DD, CP, and brain injuries...and it has been debunked not as a treatment for autism, but treatment for anything -- I view this differently than the medications for autism -- they're only ethically indicated for treatment of autism -- the argument isn't that antidepressants aren't good for treatment; it is that they aren't good for the treatment of autism. Josh.Pritchard.DBA (talk) 23:07, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't matter if it's 'debunked' or not, ethical issues concerning it and other treatments can still be raised and even if such treatments never see application again, the issues could be mentioned for historical reasons. Fenke (talk) 12:23, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Facilitated Communication

message: There have been no efforts to cite much of this -- I'll begin to remove non-related copy as well as non-cited copy until we have a well-cited article. Josh.Pritchard.DBA (talk) 02:31, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  No citations