Talk:Christian ecumenism

message: This is the most bizarrely biased article on Wiki I've ever read.  The Protestant section alone reads like pro-Catholic propaganda.  
Dogmatic Protestantism will not look for unity to come over the wall — it must come through the door, applying the key of unhidden Scripture, or the offerer of unity will be distrusted as a thief and a murderer through every point of his approach. As for Orthodoxy, by which it was fascinated at first, now confessing Protestantism grows weary of the Eastern inability to discern the difference between culture and dogma, and sees little hope of union so long as the East continues to promote mere eastern-ness as its point of departure and first point of pride.
Completely and utterly offensive, one-sided, editorialized, garbage.
NPOV'ed.   Kade 05:47, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: C'mon, Kade, let's not use over-harsh, inflammatory language. It just isn't productive or polite. But thanks for being a watchdog.-LtNOWIS 23:54, 4 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: It's often a mistake to think that you can see into "intentions", and it's rarely relevant even if you could.  As you can see from the earliest talk, this article was never intended to stand in its submitted form.  Edit away. Mkmcconn (Talk) 22:43, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If you knew the article was biased, why did you post it?   Moreover, why did you post it without a boilerplate warning?   Your actions speak louder than your words.   I don't really care about Christian ecumenism, I'm not an authority on the subject.   But I know blatant bias when I see it.  Wikipedia is not a soapbox, and you were fully aware of that when you posted this rhetoric-laden essay.  Kade 01:21, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I posted it because I can, and have assisted cooperatively in every attempt to edit it.  And moreover, you should encourage others to do the same with their essays on subjects they feel passionately about.  You need to realize ahead of time though, that what you post will be brutally reviewed and even edited by people who admit disinterest in, and ignorance of, the subject.  Still, looking past any pompous, obscenity-laced rants and sermons you might be subjected to about how Wikipedia isn't a soapbox, in the long run the process yields benefit to yourself, and builds something useful to others. That's why I posted it. Mkmcconn (Talk) 00:55, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: I'm sorry, but I found it offensive too, and I would concider myself more on the orthodox side on most things. Inserted a NPOV-section tag, to clairify where the problem is.--Weyoun6 19:40, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion it would be more helpful if you would clarify what the problem is, instead of "where" it is.  It's been a while since I've had time to edit frequently, but back in the day we used to say "be bold". Mkmcconn (Talk) 23:39, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  What the Heck? 

message: I edited the "Protestantism" section for NPOV purposes...just a brief sketch remains.  I also removed an NPOV piece from the "Signs" section.  I did not remove any NPOV labels or disputed labels...that needs to be a consensus decision.  Hope the sections are acceptable.  KHM03 19:10, 19 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Your new section looks ok by me, I would have no problem removing the NPOV section label. --Weyoun6 07:03, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  It looks fine to me, too. Mkmcconn (Talk) 21:52, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Protestantism

message: I moved the following stuff over from Ecumenism, to strip down the latter article to the mere explanation of the word, as the rest was basically about "Christian Ecumenism". Maybe even a merger of the two is appropriate. Any suggestions of including it here are welcome.
:The word "ecumenism" (also oecumenism, œcumenism) () is derived from the Greek oikoumene, which means "the inhabited world". The term is usually used with regard to movements toward religious unity. In its broadest meaning therefore, ecumenism is the religious initiative towards world-wide unity. At a minimum, ecumenism is the promotion of unity, co-operation, or improved understanding between distinct religious groups or denominations within the same religion more or less broadly defined.
:Two general types of ecumenism are discernible. The interfaith ecumenical movement strives for greater mutual respect, toleration, and co-operation among the world religions. Ecumenism in this sense is discussed at great length under the entry on religious pluralism. This is distinguishable from ecumenism within a faith-group.
:One of the important theoreticians of ecumenism was a French priest and theologian Yves Congar.
:World Council of Churches
:The World Council of Churches is an assembly of representatives from most Protestant and Orthodox churches worldwide, with observers from the Holy See. It strives for world Christian unity and action, especially with regard to world relief organizations and messages of faith. It was started initially amonst Protestant Churches towards a reunion of Christians. Some parts of the Orthodox Church participate in the W.C.C.
:The Roman Catholic Church, though participating in the Ecumenical Movement, has not joined the W.C.C., though it has send observers.
:The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which also believes itself to be authentic and universal, has not joined the World Council of Churches either.
:Bibliography
:* Hein, David. "The Episcopal Church and the Ecumenical Movement, 1937-1997: Presbyterians, Lutherans, and the Future." Anglican and Episcopal History 66 (1997): 4-29.
:See also
:* Universalism
:* Unitarian Universalism
:* Jewish views of religious pluralism and Relationships between Jewish religious movements
:* Religious pluralism
:External links
:*http://www.geocities.com/pastorkeith/ecumenical.html Ecumenical & Denominational Links]: a definitive list
:*Ecumenical News International (ENI)
Str1977 16:52, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved over from "Ecumenism"