Talk:Halifax, Nova Scotia/Archive 2

message: We now have a incoherent collection of Halifax/HRM-related articles. The History of Halifax page is very well-written (though lacking a reference to its role in the Titanic disaster), but the page Halifax, Nova Scotia (former city) is a mess. I can repair the grammar and typos but I’ve neither the time nor energy to re-structure it. The page appears to have been badly mauled by the frequently-blocked contributor Matthvm/Patycat.
I thought that we (the local Wikipedians) had a reasonable solution to the “name that city” problem — the HRM page would deal with the greater metropolitan area and link to various sub-articles (Halifax Harbour and so on.) Pages for Halifax, Nova Scotia (former city), Dartmouth, Bedford and the rest should be small and strictly focused on local information. Contributors should ask themselves, “Is this item of significance to the metropolitan area? (e.g., The Halifax explosion) Or is this item only important within a local context? (e.g., Peter Kelly was the last mayor of Bedford)
If in doubt, bring the matter up on the Talk Page before taking a chainsaw to an already reasonably well-written page.--OldCommentator 13:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's also high time that someone archived the older material on this page. I'd do it myself if I knew how.--OldCommentator 13:52, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: One great big mess

message: Having been living in Halifax I find some of the articles that not in Halifax proper are being referenced so far from "Halifax" but the link goes to Halifax Regional Municipality . This is confusing to the people who are reading . I suggest using the link to downtown as a reference to Halifax the community--Torontoman 18:54, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mattvm, cut it out with the sockpuppets! Ouuplas 03:14, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Linking to Halifax

message: I've re-archived this talk page, this time using a page move rather than cut-and-paste.  The archive is now at Talk:Halifax Regional Municipality, Nova Scotia/Archive1.
I was also surprised to learn that the discussion about sockpuppets was not in the previously-created archive, even though it was removed from this page at the same time as the other archived content. --Saforrest 10:47, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archiving this page 

message: Hi gang!  I am back!
The community and neighbourhoods section is garbage.  What are we talking about here?  Every dot on a map?  Every dot + neighbourhoods?  Every dot plus neighbourhoods plus neighbourhoods that do not even exist anymore?  I am going to try and edit this this week, I think it looks horrible, and is actually rather useless.  Thoughts? WayeMason 23:30, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What if we use the HRM planning areas, which are the sections you see on the map, on the page?  Then put communities under appropriate area? WayeMason 00:49, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  It will be great right up till city hall changes the g-d planning areas, AGAIN! :) WayeMason 12:47, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Community and Neighbourhoods 

message: The flag with the bird is not the Halifax Regional Municipality flag its the former city of Halifax flag and is not used by HRM , the flag with the HRM logo is the official flag and is used officially at all HRM building ,fire and police station. The Halifax city went with the the city of Halifax and should be in that article . See website  --Bylaw
History--Bill 10:22, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, my friend.  The blue kingfisher flag, just a yellow bird, outlined lightly in black, on a very light blue background, with no stupid arrows, windjammers and st andrews crosses, was the City of Halifax flag.  The one you are concerned about is the HRM flag, which was created by committee after amalgamation, on a dark blue background, and includes the arrows from the Bedford Flag, the ship from the Dartmouth flag, the Kingfisher from the Halifax flag, and the cross from the provincial flag for the county.  It is so ugly it hurts.  The Halifax logo is the HRM corporate logo, which is different from the HRM livery, ie flag and coat of arms.  However, the flag is so ugly that even the HRM uses the corporate logo flag instead. WayeMason 10:42, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Flag

message: I happened to see this change and I'm wondering if someone can explain its exact meaning. As it stands, it's quite ambiguous: This has resulted in modern high rises being built in unusual locations like halifax. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Twinchester (talk • contribs) 20:48, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buildings and structures 

message: I propose adding a reference to Halifax's dubious distinction as the violent crime capital of Canada . Does anyone else agree? Seems rather noteworthy. Shawn in Montreal 03:53, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately this probably needs to be acknowledged, though it is important that we do not editorialize or presuppose cause for this.  It is a relatively new issue, or, rather, its an old issue that is now much worse, so we have to be very conscious to not sensationalize or do anything unencyclopedic.WayeMason 23:22, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not so sure we're the crime capital, but Haligonian streets are dangerous (especially at night). Last summer dozens of people reported being ganged by young people and an American was killed downtown a few months ago, not to mention all the taxi drivers. There are probably a hundred more examples that I can't think of at the moment, too. There should definitely be mention of Halifax's record somewhere in the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Marshmello (talk • contribs) 21:34, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Public safety

message: Why are there so many "See also" pages? Why not just include them in here? I had a devil of a time trying to find the history of Halifax, the city, and eventually found it (and added the link to it). It seems like a weird way to organize a page --AW 18:33, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why? 

message: Shouldn't there be a part about the Halifax Explosion? I didn't see it here,but I might have missed it.
halifax explosion —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 142.68.95.124 (talk) 00:45, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Halifax Regional Municipality did not exist before 1996 so any history belongs in the separate communities either Halifax which still exist as separate community (place name) or Dartmouth , Bedford or other 188 + place within the HRM itself which is a very large place . The whole thing would confusing to combine the history of these communities that its simpler to just write the history of Bedford and keep it separate from Halifax or Dartmouth . The history of these communities often do not relate to the former city of Halifax . As for the Halifax Explosion the event itself has an article and is set in the former city of Halifax or Dartmouth in 1918 and does not really belong in an article about a Regional Municipality that its history starts in 1996--Markhamman 14:08, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of Halifax 

message: A few days ago I removed the estimated 2006 population for HRM (385,000) because there was no official source (ie. Statistics Canada).  I see where an anonymous editor has reinstated it, defending this because it is an "estimate".  While I would be interested to know what it's based on, and am only confident in official stats from census figures, many community articles in Wikipedia are susceptible to population inflation by editors who are quasi-"civic boosters".  If I were really enamoured with HRM becoming a mega centre, then what is to prevent me or anyone else from going in and saying the 2006 estimate is 450,000, or the 2010 estimate is 525,000, etc. etc.?   I think we need an official policy stating that community population stats are only based on the most recent released census figures, with appropriate URL link to the source and avoid any and all "estimates".Plasma east 13:01, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you from Moncton Plasma East, because I noticed it's numbers were inflated for a long time now until it was recently fixed.  The fact is that population estimates are not random numbers, but accurate estimations based on the population growth rate of an area.  If you would like to find the estimates you can check www.greaterhalifax.com, www.dartmouthcrossing.com, or many others just search google for it. The fact is HRM has grown well above 360,000 since 2001 and 385,000 is a very accurate estimate of its population currently and is more informative than data from 6 years ago. [ this was an unsigned post left by 24.89.246.190 at 11:37, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I live in Halifax.  I'm not disputing North American Development Group's figures on www.dartmouthcrossing.com, nor the Greater Halifax Partnership on www.greaterhalifax.com, but these groups are hardly unbiased and it's in their best interest to "boost" the numbers to appear as optimistic as possible for their respective audiences.  I would be most comfortable if the statistics came from an agency like Statistics Canada.  I really don't see the point in putting out information that isn't concrete...  even if the estimate is "accurate", because it's based on a formula, not an actual population survey, which only occurs during the census (..., 1991, 1996, 2001, 2006, etc.).  Estimated population info that varies widely from source to source is an ongoing problem with Wikipedia articles on Canadian communities.  Look at many U.S. articles, and you'll see they are sourced with the hard census figures and there is very little talk about estimated population.  I don't see why we can't be content to take a similar approach for consistency.  The current approach we take in Canada is pretty amature and not very convincing.  The 2006 census figures will be out within a few months, and population is among the first statistics scheduled for release. Plasma east 14:40, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess the 2006 Census resolves this debate.  I would hope that a policy is enacted by Wikipedia before we go through similar issues of inflated population estimates during the inter-census years.Plasma east 03:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced population estimates 

message: The Urban Core Boundaries are defined here however better to define in the articles as Halifax , Dartmouth , Bedford and etc. No one outside HRM  does not have a clue what the urban core is nor people in the HRM refer to it as the Urban Core but the communities name they refer to .--3250445 19:32, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Urban Core

message: Based on Stats Canada Urban Area Count for Nova Scotia at  . Later on stats for the communities of Halifax , Dartmouth and Bedford will be released --Sonyuser 17:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Urban Stats

message: On reading the page there too little  information  on areas outside the Halifax Peninsula . Does the Halifax Regional Municipality consist only of Halifax , Dartmouth and Bedford ?
The page should reflect on the whole of the area of the Halifax Regional Municipality not just the area around high rise areas .19960401 17:44, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeing as 75% of the population of HRM, and 40% of the economic activity in the province does take place in the urban area, I think its only natural that the article mostly talk about the urban area.  I think the rural northeast needs to be strengthened, and I was working on that today in the geography section.  I am interested to find out what kind of stuff you feel is missing? WayeMason 18:19, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Then get on it, my man.  Giv'er.  WayeMason 21:05, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Too little Information 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Halifaxrmflag.gif

message: I made this picture, please consider putting it up.
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=5301530&l=8fd36&id=784665396  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.222.250.120 (talk) 01:30, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Another Picture

message: To date we have had close to 1,500 edits to this article.  All previous discussions have been archived as of June 7, 2007.Plasma east 17:28, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: June 2007 archival

message: Why are the coordinates in the top right corner of the page different from the ones in the infobox? LK 18:10, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differing Coordinates 

message: The municipality is commonly called HRM and often simply, although incorrectly, as Halifax (my emphasis).
The grammar may be a bit suspect here but the prescriptive linguistics is worse... see Talk:Halifax, West Yorkshire#Discussion. Andrewa 20:39, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed text

message: Is this a mistake? A demonym can't have a density... can it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.11.104.83 (talk) 19:05, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: DEMONYM Density?