Talk:Maggie's Farm

message: The lyrics are based on a conversation between two farmers in Northwest Wisconsin that Dylan overheard when hitch-hiking with them from Camp Herzl to Minneapolis. "Maggie" is actually Aggie (Agnes) who was the matriarch of the family and oversaw the farm operations.    — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.147.214.130 (talk) 16:53, 17 April 2023 (UTC)

message: Is Maggie's Farm related in any way to Steve Bell's cartoon strip Maggie's Farm? Obviously, Steve was referencing Margaret Thatcher in the cartoon strip, but was he also referencing the Dylan song? --A bit iffy 21:30, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Apropos not much at all I am semi-reliably informed that it was the first song played on BBC Radio 2 following the announcement of the death of Denis Thatcher! Mr Larrington (talk) 12:44, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Steve Bell (cartoonist)

message: All of the quotes that someone has marked with this infernal tag are found in the book I put in the "reference" section (I was the one that made the article, and added all the quotes, and the reference).  I don't know how to, or more accurately can't be bothered finding out how to, do the appropriate editing to make everything "properly" cited.  So if someone else wants to take the time, go ahead.  --Jamieli (talk) 02:18, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Citation needed"

message: The article quotes a line from the song "she's 68 but she says she's 54". According to the lyric sheet I could find on bob-dylan.com, it should be "she's 68 but she says she's 24" ).
I fixed the article, but this edit was reverted. I don't want to get into an edit war here by mistake - can anyone offer any insight to the correct quote? OgmiosProject (talk) 08:41, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The original song says 54, and you can hear it in the recordings. RATM says 24, which is based on a performance in which Dylan changed the lyrics to 24 instead of 54.
The printed lyrics both at bob-dylan.com and in the assorted song and lyric books do say 24; however if you listen to the song he clearly says "54". There are many examples of this discrepancy in BD's lyrics; "Open The Door Homer" is the most glaring where he actualy says "open The Door Richard" and Homer never gets a mention at all. all this discusion is even more complicated by the fact that in performance Dylan is likely to change the words at will. So it's just a matter of what source you'ld want to use. You should sign your posts. Darrell Wheeler (talk) 23:48, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: She says she's 54...

message: I've always been under the impression that McGee's Farm, where Dylan performed at the 1963 Civil Rights rally, was the source of the song's name. Howard Sounes poses another possibility: "the name supposedly inspired by Maggiore's Farm, near Kingston, New York, which Bob passed each time he traveled to Woodstock" (Down the Highway, p. 167). Since even Sounes doesn't know for sure, most of what's said about the name's origin would have to be speculative, as would be an interpretation based solely on the name. Some work is called for. Any suggestions? Allreet (talk) 05:24, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right, it is difficult to tell OR/synth from a simple lack of citations.  The lyrics section was the only section I really saw problems with - since no source is cited for any of the interpretation, it is hard to tell what is widely held opinion/what is the opinion of specific commentators/what is simply the opinion of whatever Wikipedian edited the section last. Although I'm sure much of the opinion in it could be cited, as it stands it kind of reads like a high school essay about the song or something. I'd be fine with you changing the OR tag to a refimprove tag, since in the difference isn't really that big. Kevin (kgorman-ucb) (talk) 20:24, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the name "Maggie's Farm" 

message: Hi, Kgorman-ucb! I saw you added the Original Research tag to "Maggie's Farm" and was wondering which sections bothered you the most in this regard. I'd like to re-work the article and would probably start with anything that might fall under this category. While editors' views have most likely crept in, sometimes its difficult to discern OR from synthesis and synthesis from merely a lack of citations. At any rate, I'd like to change the OR tag to a ref-improve tag, but only after cleaning up or excising the most troublesome spots, so a short list of issues in whatever form you want would be appreciated. Thanks. Allreet (talk) 15:14, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right, it is difficult to tell OR/synth from a simple lack of citations.  The lyrics section was the only section I really saw problems with - since no source is cited for any of the interpretation, it is hard to tell what is widely held opinion/what is the opinion of specific commentators/what is simply the opinion of whatever Wikipedian edited the section last. Although I'm sure much of the opinion in it could be cited, as it stands it kind of reads like a high school essay about the song or something. I'd be fine with you changing the OR tag to a refimprove tag, since in the difference isn't really that big. Kevin (kgorman-ucb) (talk) 20:24, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Original Research Tag

message: I m from germany and not so good in english,  there is no german article until now
by searching for information about the song, I also found the waterboys version,
witch is not mentioned in the article until now
http://www.metrolyrics.com/i-aint-gonna-work-on-maggies-farm-no-more-lyrics-waterboys.html
http://lyricskeeper.de/de/waterboys/i-ain-t-gonna-work-on-maggie-s-farm-no-more.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.204.153.68 (talk) 00:16, 9 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  I m missing the waterboys version 

message: # As article text
# Economic exploitation
# Violence or force
# Coercion / propaganda
# As article text
I think this describes the lyrics accurately; although there is nothing in the literature to support either this or what I deleted, at least this is free of the overtly political PoV of the deleted material Anarchangel (talk) 01:22, 21 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lyrics 

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