Talk:11 (numerology)

message: This discussion is for the improvement, and upgrade, aka updating of the 11 (numerology)article. if anyone has any ideas on how to improve this article (make it into a good featured article) - please add your commments here, and i would get back to you with my reply - or, just talk to me about it on my talk page. thanks people. --Lord X 17:13, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I apologize...sometimes its necassary to be a skeptic, aint it? --Lord X 18:12, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Misunderstanding of Quran scripture

message: Are there any academic mathematicians of note who have explored Master Numbers? Any mathematicians who have explored or been 'converted' to the usefulness of numerology? Could help with the article being seen as useful to people interested in numbers and mysteries. I'm sure such mathematicians may be seen as heretics among their peers. Maybe search the Vatican archives under heretics? Its almost becoming a folklore or mythology article?
Does the fact that 11 is a prime number have any basis in numerological literature? I'm going to add this 'fact' into the article.~~
::The fact that 11 is prime is covered in 11 (number). I’ve assumed that this is sufficient and removed it from here. —xyzzyn 16:58, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Does there need to be a distinction made between 11 (number) and 11 (numerology)? Drakonicon 19:51, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Given the current tone of this article, yes, definitely, please. —xyzzyn 20:13, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Ok... going to try in the intro ... to define difference between two terms.Drakonicon 17:30, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Well I found a book about a Numerologist Cheiro operating in the late nineteenth and early 20th centuries, around the time of the New Age writers, Theosophists Blavatsky's The Secret Doctrine, 1888, and The Order of the Golden Dawn. It is possible, I beleive, that Chiero could be construed as a rogue in the sense that harry Houdini was considered a rogue and a travelling entertainer/magician. Regardless, someone like Chieor again needs to be defined for his use in defining a history of Numerology in relation to 11 numerology. I actually found Cheiro in the numerology wiki-article and found it had no biographical link. So i have sought to redress this. At the moment, the article looks like a satirical Uncyclopedia article and needs a lot of work. Any further suggestions would be wonderful.User talk:DrakoniconDrakonicon 06:39, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok... I come across this reference in Wikipedia while looking into the Synchronicity reference... 23 (numerology).. CHeck the section entitled... 'True'... listed as enigmas... some are very similar the 9/11 references. If we can find another '11' example... the 23 (numerology) article might assist us in orgainising and fleshing out a better article?User talk:DrakoniconDrakonicon 16:47, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hardly. Rather, that article needs fixing, too. —xyzzyn 17:11, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I thought you might say that about the fixing of both articles. Just has a different narrative and introduction about what 23 (numerology is. The narrative seems to be in terms of enigma and mystery,,, and yes,, it may be poorly written; however... I'll try this approach... I read the Coincidence article and contributed a section in the talk there Talk:Coincidence about the need for a 'coincidence' example... (The synchronicity page at least cites one example). I am going to add the 'coincidence' link to the 11 (numerology page) for it is relevant to the use of the number 11 for symbolic purposes  (symbolic in the artistic sense, not strictly mathematical symbols).Drakonicon 18:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mathematicians and Numerology

message: ::Well I found a book about a Numerologist Cheiro operating in the late nineteenth and early 20th centuries, around the time of the New Age writers, Theosophists Blavatsky's The Secret Doctrine, 1888, and The Order of the Golden Dawn. It is possible, I beleive, that Chiero could be construed as a rogue in the sense that harry Houdini was considered a rogue and a travelling entertainer/magician. Regardless, someone like Chieor again needs to be defined for his use in defining a history of Numerology in relation to 11 numerology. I actually found Cheiro in the numerology wiki-article and found it had no biographical link. So i have sought to redress this. At the moment, the article looks like a satirical Uncyclopedia article and needs a lot of work. Any further suggestions would be wonderful.User talk:DrakoniconDrakonicon 06:39, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok... I come across this reference in Wikipedia while looking into the Synchronicity reference... 23 (numerology).. CHeck the section entitled... 'True'... listed as enigmas... some are very similar the 9/11 references. If we can find another '11' example... the 23 (numerology) article might assist us in orgainising and fleshing out a better article?User talk:DrakoniconDrakonicon 16:47, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hardly. Rather, that article needs fixing, too. —xyzzyn 17:11, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Is a history of numerology of any use?

message: :::I thought you might say that about the fixing of both articles. Just has a different narrative and introduction about what 23 (numerology is. The narrative seems to be in terms of enigma and mystery,,, and yes,, it may be poorly written; however... I'll try this approach... I read the Coincidence article and contributed a section in the talk there Talk:Coincidence about the need for a 'coincidence' example... (The synchronicity page at least cites one example). I am going to add the 'coincidence' link to the 11 (numerology page) for it is relevant to the use of the number 11 for symbolic purposes  (symbolic in the artistic sense, not strictly mathematical symbols).Drakonicon 18:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Numerology, 11, and Coincidence