Talk:X-Men: Evolution/Archive 1

message: Lets discuss what's going on with the External Links. There has been a lot of junk added in the past, but I am deeply uncomfortable with the mass deletions that have occured, and I believe each link should be considered separately, with cases for and against. For my own part, I was involved in X-Men Evo RPG boards for two, maybe three years (I'm past that now) and was a bio mod and later admin for one of the larger sites which had run for several years.
So ... the links I've restored: I think it just makes sense that the production company and director's sites remain, especially since the Director (Steven Gordon) has a lot of X-Men drawing content which he actively maintains. There's a pretty long standing history between graphic media and fan art, so there would be a good utilization for that link. Kataclysm's fan site is a slightly tougher sell, but just based on sheer volume of content and a history going back several years, as well as the dozens of screenshots for each episode and custom avatar bank I know from my RPG board days that site got a lot of hits from board members. Beyond Evolution is without doubt one of the seminal references for the series even if it is now only lightly maintained - I have seen multiple references to it from other sites (not just fan sites). I also hope that if X2B keeps up with the news aggregation on her blog this would have a good utility here. Haverberg 18:18, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The production and the director sites are not needed, you could put the links in their own article, this article is about X-Men Evolution. See: WP:EL--hottie 19:17, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The director's site has significant resources for drawing X-Men Evolution characters, so I have put it back with a more detailed note explaining it. Haverberg 67.130.17.100 19:03, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: I don't think it's good to keep on adding to the 'fact' section without any sources. The six latest ones, which I just now deleted, have no source, and frankly, some of them seem pretty bogus - namely the one about the lack of other 'superheroes' in the series because the creators wanted to show the dominence of the X-Men in one way or another: er... Captain America and Nick Fury both had appearences in the series, didn't they?
: Re: Deletion of "Facts": The superhero comment was true. Back when AnimationInsider.Net had an       X-Men: Evolution fansite and (a sadly now deleted) forum, Craig Kyle and Boyd Kirkland would occasionally stop by to post and they even had a Q&A thread. It was there that this bit of trivia was brought up. The writers chose to make the Evo-world free of non-mutant superheroes because it would diminish the "protect the world that hates and fears you" message of the show if normal citizens were persecuting mutants but embracing other super-beings like Spider-Man or the Fantastic Four. As for Nick Fury and Captain America, remember that Nick Fury is more of a "secret agent" than a typical super-powered, spandex-wearing hero, and during the present Evo timeline Captain America was in suspended animation and largely forgotten by the public. ~Sandoz
: : So if AnimationInsider.net is the source of the information, then cite it as the source.  That solves the problem, right? Raphael 14:59, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted More 'Facts' 

message: Gambit (Remy LeBeau), voiced by Alessandro Juliani. Cast as a Long John Silver-type villain, this Gambit is outwardly similar to the original Gambit, but is different in that he is a willing accomplice to Magneto. The Evolution version of Gambit has also shown signs of antisocial personality disorder, and though from time to time he will do something that can be considered good, he has shown that he is not above outright manipulation of innocents to achieve his goal. He appears to have a soft spot for Rogue (originally meant only as a nod to their relationship in the comics), but whether or not he has sincere affection for her is unclear, though it is unlikely as Gambit is a sociopath. In fanfiction, Gambit's personality is often overwritten so that he can more closely resemble his heroic incarnations in the comics and X-Men: The Animated Series; this is usually done to make a romance with Rogue more plausible, though he is still technically "out of character". Though shown with the extended X-Men team at the end of the series, it is unlikely that Gambit ever officially joined the team, though it's possible he may be an occasional ally, like Angel or Boom Boom.
I found most of this to be speculation, opinion, or just untrue. The X-Men: Evolution incarnation of Gambit's character wasn't widely touched upon. His personality is up to debate.
I'm not sure whether or not I should edit that severely. Evan 14:48, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just my two cent's worth but I've had questions on his bio description as well, it just doesn't seem a good fit Haverberg 15:08, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gambit's Profile in the Character List 

message: "Season 4 on DVD is predicted to be release around the time of X3 DVD release."
Proof of this? I've never heard anything about it...
:There's no proof. Some fans speculate a DVD release around that time (hence the "predicted") but there's been no announcement.
Excuse me, where did you read this??
:Doesn't really matter. It was long ago removed from the article as speculation and against Wiki policy. Debuskjt 01:48, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So why has Marvel still not released the Season 4 DVD?  It has been five years since Season 3 aired.  I have emailed both Marvel and Netflix and got no response.  After skimming the description of Season 4 here on Wikipedia (didn't want to read it fully, because it was filled with spoilers), I saw no clear explanation here either.  The only conclusions I could come up with are 1) the creators felt it's too dark to release as a children's DVD (kind of insulting, as I am an adult who has been reading Marvel comics since kindergarten and am totally convinced it did not harm me in any way), or 2) there are licensing and/or legal issues involved between Marvel and whoever.  Does anybody know the answer to this question?  I watched the first three seasons on DVD and it's driving me crazy that the last season is not available anywhere.  Thanks for the help.  Raphael 15:13, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 4 on DVD? 

message: This article doesn't mention when the series actually ran. Can anyone help with this? --Chris Griswold 00:45, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates 

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thread_title:  Citecheck template and citations 

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thread_title:  Fair use rationale for Image:HRFR.jpg 

message: In the article, someone states that the Spike that appears in X-men the last stand was caucasian. He wasn't. Lance Gibson, the man who portrays him is in fact of African descent.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.13.6.91 (talk) 20:16, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spike 

message: Hi!
There is not mention of why series was cancelled after fourth season.--Jahilia (talk) 11:20, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cancellation 

message: While Xavier's visions represent the future, the final shot of the assembled cast (used as the main picture for the article) does not seem to have anything to do with continuity, future events, or who joined what, when. Angel, for instance, as well as Gambit, are not team members when the show ends, and show no sign of becoming team members; nor are they members of the 'future' team glimpsed by Xavier. The shot seems to be simply a team photo, showing all the mutants who comprise the X-Men and the New Mutants, as well as other mutants who were X-Men allies in the course of the series (although Gambit's inclusion doesn't exactly fit). Boom-Boom, for instance, never re-joins the New Mutants or moves back to the mansion, as far as we know. She just remains friends with everyone and shows up sometimes. Taking the shot in this sense, the only two missing people are Forge and Moonstar. I'd be interested what the reason is for leaving them out.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.248.142.13 (talk) 04:02, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor edits in the paragraph about the picture of the cast 

message: The article says Cyclops' powers in the comic book were due to a brain injury. However, recently, it was revealed to be a mental block and psycological. Maybe this should be adjusted to mention that, at the time of the show the comic book canon was one way, but has currently changed. It really doesn't effect Rogue's use of the powers. 70.108.90.133 (talk) 22:01, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rogue and Cyclops' Powers 

message: I was just wondering if there is a place I could, hopefully safely, download the the themes listed under the music heading. Does anyone know of such a site? 71.115.141.221 (talk) 00:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music