Talk:Shannon Noll

message: I think some attention needs to be paid to maintaining the neutrality of this article. This is Wikipedia, not a record company press release. Check the 2008 section - it would be accurate to say that Noll played at certain venues, but saying he "rocked" them is a non-neutral matter of opinion. As is stating that his rest is "well earned". The same goes for lines below like "are guaranteed to be #1 hits."
More unbiased reporting and less marketing thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.45.135.172 (talk) 16:15, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: Is somebody deliberately uploading stupid pictures for the Australian Idol contestants? Both this picture and the 'Guy Sebastian' picture are wrong (and just stupid!). I'm going to remove the picture and hope that somebody can provide something genuine in the future! Ranglin 00:46, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
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message: Worked on reducing promo language and such, wanted to de-weasel/declutter the article. So little verification, but the main problem there is the dates forecasting so much and now they've passed, they need verification or erasing. Julia Rossi (talk) 10:05, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: I have redone the introduction to Shannon Noll's article. It was poorly written, had very little information in it, misnamed his 3rd album, and made no mention of any of his releases past 2007. 
"Shannon Noll (born 16 September 1975) first came to prominence as runner-up of the first series of Australian Idol (2003) which led to him being signed to Sony BMG. Since Idol he has had more success than any other Idol contestant to date. He has gone on to release two number one, multi-platinum albums, That's What I'm Talking About , Lift and "loud".He also sung in numerous top five singles including three number one debuts and an additional seven single releases reaching the top 10. Noll's style of music is pop-rock influenced by the likes of Bryan Adams. Noll is a distant cousin of former Australian Test cricketers, Mark and Steve Waugh.
As of September, 2008, Noll has sold in excess of 1.5 million records worldwide."
For such a successful artist whose career has spanned 6 years it really didn't say much at all, and what it did say in some cases was not correct(name of third album wrong). As many people probably never read more than the introduction to a wikipedia article I would think it should at least actually reflect some of the content of the article. I have added mention of his fourth album and also the album he released in the UK and Ireland earlier this year. I have also added mention of a few of his most notable achievements such as his 3 MTV Awards for best artist and his record of 10 consecutive Top 10 singles. His introduction included a statment he has sold 1.5 million records worldwide, but supplied no citations. Using the term worldwide for musicians who have only been released in a few countries outside of their own and then guessing at the sales is not suitable for what is supposed to be an accurate picture of their careers. I would expect the term to be used for Australian musicians like Kylie Minogue and Delta Goodrem who have released in many countries, but as Shannon has only released his 1st album and single in NZ, and a single in Ireland in 2004, and now an album in the UK and Ireland in 2009, "worldwide" is not really a suitable term. As there is no official record to substantiate Shannon's sales outside Australia a guessing game does not seem appropriate for his wikipedia. Far more appropriate to mention any chart history in other countries where no actual sales figures from reliable sources can be found. So as a founding place for his sales I started with his Australian sales, and then made mention of his overseas releases without guessing at figures for those. How on earth can anyone tell how much they sold unless the artist charts and receives accreditations in those countries, or there is some sort of official reporting of those sales. There are none for Shannon. His biography  on his official Sony website actually only says he has over 1 million sales in Australia and gives no figures or information about overseas sales. "In 2008, he was the subject of "This Is Your Life", an emotion charged TV tale that plotted his meteoric success from farm boy to music icon which has seen him sell over 1,000,000 units of CD's and DVD's in this country alone" Shannon Noll Biography Taking in to account his actual accreditation levels over the length of his career, and also allowing reasonable extra sales for non accredited releases it would seem his sales figures in Australia are over 1.3 million. I have seen publicity material which gives higher album accreditations for Shannon, but theARIA site itself is the only official source for Australian accreditation levels and so this is the source I have used. Cross referencing that with the fact that he was presented with a plaque commemorating his selling of a million units in November 2005, and has received 4 platinum and one gold accreditation since then comes up with a similiar figure. So this is the Australian sales figure I have included rather than the figure of 1 million plus from his website biography.
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thread_title:  Poorly written introduction and lack of citations 

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