Talk:André-Adolphe-Eugène Disdéri

message: I won't revert your revert, but the infobox adds precisely nothing to the article, as far as I can tell - even more pointedly so, considering the brevity of the article. I can't think why you'd want to add it. Pinkville (talk) 04:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, for one thing, it is a quick info box that give you information if you don't have time to read the whole thing. Also, all the pages of anybody important has one. Thousands of them on Wiki, so I guess it is a wiki structure.--Persianhistory2008 (talk) 06:06, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: All the informaton that is in the infobox can be found in the first line of article text, so if you don't have time to read the "whole thing"... All the pages of anybody important... This seems to be your favoured line of reasoning: everybody does it this way. Again, not true. Have a look at articles on the history of photography, try the Featured and Good Articles first... Only two of the nine articles listed have infoboxes. Furthermore, indulging laziness in this way (what are you doing perusing an encyclopedia if you don't read any of the articles?) seems cynical and counterproductive to me. Infoboxes are actually useless to readers, though admittedly very useful to editors who don't want to spend the time researching, writing and providing real information on a subject. Finally, infoboxes do not spring from a WP guideline or policy or "structure", and they are the subject of some debate, so their insertion into an article is not an unproblematic issue. Pinkville (talk) 12:46, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Just simply look at the thousands of pages of anyone important and you will see. Look at God, Abraham Lincoln, Ulysses S. Grant, George Bush, Dalai Lama, Marilyn Monroe, Joe Dimaggio and thousands of others. Not making this up. Are you knew to wiki?--Persianhistory2008 (talk) 16:36, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Incidentally, the page for God doesn't have an infobox. The page for the Dalai Lama doesn't either, it has an inset guide to different transliterations of his name. The link to George Bush you provided is actually to a disambiguation page, and of the five George Bush biographical articles listed there, two do not have infoboxes. Pinkville (talk) 18:33, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I suppose I'm somewhat new to WP, my first edit was in 2002 (as an anon. editor); And you?. Yes, there are thousands of articles with infoboxes; and there are thousands of articles without infoboxes - I provided you with a link to the list of FA and GA articles that are most pertinent in this case, and 7 of 9 of those articles do not have infoboxes. There's no argument to be made from your point. The question is, simply, what good is an infobox in this (stub) article? Because the information in the infobox merely duplicates what is readily found in the first line of text (in fact, you actually removed information from the first line without adding it to the infobox anyway) there is no good reason to keep it. It clutters the layout without adding anything to the article. And it's hard to imagine what help any infobox could provide even if this article were much longer and comprehensive. WP guidelines ask for a lead paragraph that summarises the most noteworthy aspects of the subject; infoboxes merely duplicate and reduce what is already a reduction of the article. Pinkville (talk) 17:57, 29 November 2007 (UTC)

text: By the way, rather than - as you rightly put it - wasting your time on this minor issue, why don't you use your self-acknowledged greater expertise in the history of photography and add some information to this article. Disdéri is a very important figure in the early history of photography, yet his article remains pathetically thin (and in some parts, factually dubious). Pinkville (talk) 18:02, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This argument is VERY childish and pointless. The only thing I agree with is that we should develop his page and make it look better. I also agree that he is a VERY important individual in photographic history.--Persianhistory2008 (talk) 07:02, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Splendid. Please do develop it. As for making it look better, a start is to avoid mere visual gimmickry. -- Hoary (talk) 07:34, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Hoary, I am not going to spend any more time on this page if you are simply going to remove and waste any time I put into it. To write a nice article with citations takes up a lot of time, but if someone like you is going to erase all of it, what a waste of time.--Persianhistory2008 (talk) 07:00, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

text: It took some time to create the infobox that you deleted, also I was going to add photos, text and just make it better. But you have revered everything I ever did not the page. The beginning portion also does not look right, so I fixed it, but again you reversed it. I don't see why I should try to build the page up if your going to simply delete it.--Persianhistory2008 (talk) 07:42, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I deleted the infobox that you made. I did so because it added nothing to the article: it was just visual gimmickry. Precisely what else by you (or anyone else) have I deleted, or how have I degraded the article? -- Hoary (talk) 08:53, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Okay, I just spent a few hours writing text, citations, references, and external links. I added some very important information about him. I will add more information in the near future when I have time. As for now, it would be great if you or anyone else (who cares for Disderi) can write additional information about his early life. That is what we really need, if you really care so much about preserving his history. That is all I care about.--Persianhistory2008 (talk) 11:46, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Much better. Thanks. Pinkville (talk) 11:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: infobox

message: This man was born in Italy, Genoa town and was italian non french, please watch this report  http://www.moreschiphoto.it/fotocamere%20liguri.pdf  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.36.162.139 (talk) 20:15, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Disderi was Italian, not French?

message: The text of the article says, 
"Certainly Disdéri’s status as a photographer was greatly enhanced when in May 1859 Napoleon III interrupted his march to war to pose for photographs in Disdéri’s studio.Robert Leggat, "Carte-de-Visite photography", A History of Photography: From its beginnings till the 1920s."  
Robert Leggat said, in a footnote to this reference:
"** This story about Napoleon stopping for a portrait has subsequently shown to be untrue, but it makes a good story and may have been put about purely for publicity purposes!   © Robert Leggat, 1999.  Last updated 09/23/2008 13:54:20" Fconaway (talk) 01:30, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Spurious report of Napoleon III's visit to the studio