Talk:Phat pants

message: PHAT PANTS ARE WORN BY GUYS, NOT GIRLS - THEY ARE A GUYS FASHION NOT GIRLS. ==
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.108.63.88 (talk • contribs). 
If you go to certain clubs in Australia they are filled with females wearing phat pants. If you check out the second link at the bottom of the article it has a female in phats. User:kobo 14:41, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

message: I think this page should be merged with Pants - could be expanded on pants page User:SimontheRaver
*Support Addhoc 11:13, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed Merger with [[Pants]]

message: I am a little annoyed that it wasn't discussed that the other picture was going to be put up - as soon as I put up a gender-free one it is removed. Now, I am not screwed in the head like Simon the Raver and his many other names, but I do take offense to an issue like the one I have brought up, the image I uploaded is gender-neutral and should be left as it is. User:Bisuit brain 21st November 2006.
User:Bisuit brain the only edits you have been making are destructive edits in the same manner and to the same page as the vandalistic editor User:Simon the Raver who you claim not to be. You have lied about the source of an image in order to justify removing it, claiming there was no source when it's source was clearly stated and the image was released into the public domain. You are also insisting that any image that happens to have a female in it must be replaced by a picture with a male in it in the interest of "gender neutrality". Please stop lying, attempting to confuse things by making edits that go around in a circle, and unnecessarily pushing your gender isssues. Tiggertrouble 00:44, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Re Picture

message: I'm removing the following text as it is highly subjective and anecdotal.  I could see there being some substance to what is being said, but I'm not really qualified (or motivated) to extract it and to do the research to find published literature on the topic"
It is common at a typical rave to hear "I saw you at a party last week, I know those pants!".
...the brighter the better. This gives the effect, especially at parties, of what could be considered a super hero uniform: each one being colourful and unique. The added colour helps raise the party vibe. 
...water bottles, chupa chups, and whatever else may be necessary to get them through a weekend of partying
Ravers will buy the most original pair of phat pants that they can lay their hands on, as they are deemed to be a form of self expression. 'Phatties' can vary in cost from $80 to $400, with many ravers happy to spend such an extravagant price on one pair of pants as long as they are good quality and will last many hours of stomping and dancing at indoor as well as outdoor events. Some ravers even class themselves as 'elite' or 'hardcore' if they own several pairs of phats. This is not an attitude fostered by most ravers however. There are many ravers in Australia that feel that one cannot do justice to their phats unless they are worn out in public on a shopping trip or similar activities.
...and are usually brightly coloured webbing with a reflective strip sewn down the middle.
Are the 'D' clips referred to herein carabiners?
-Dwinetsk 22:33, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subjectivity cleanup 

message: I have removed the images that are gender related and just left a generic one up, if the page is vandalised again, I will be reporting the culperate ro Wiki. --SteelAvenger 11:14, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Balanced

message: Well where do I start with you Tiggertrouble, trying to move the image of a man wearing phatties to a completely different section of the article, and at one point removing the image totally. Editing the bottom so the words 'Image shows girl in phat pants' I add an link stating another article shows a male in phat pants and you remove it. Phat pants are Unisex, so why have a sole image of one gender wearing phatties, have I gone round removing the image of the Girl in Phat pants to the bottom and putting the image of the Boy on top, no. I have gender-balanced the article not making it in favor of a male or a femlale, by using a generic picture of a sole-image of phat pants. Too many images clutter up the article. You have also removed vandal warnings from your user page, which is in-breach of wikipedia rules, and I have reported you to Wikipedia for that. You are making destructive edits to this page which is now in accordance with wikipedia for being gender neutral. Please see vandal warning on your talk page. --SteelAvenger 22:12, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalistic editing by [[User:Tiggertrouble]]

message: Your continued lies about things that have not happened are not only unwelcome but have become intimidation and harrassment.
1.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phat_pants&diff=next&oldid=107692853
Picture of a female changed by you User:SteelAvenger to say it is incorrectly a picture of a boy.
External link at bottom of article changed so that an article in which women talk about their clothing is changed to say it is an article with people talking about their clothing.
External link at bottom that says "guy talking about his phat pants" however, is not changed.
2.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Phat_pants&diff=next&oldid=109398396
I have not been removing mentions of male.
Also see above. Additionally see talk page where I have repeatedly listed that girls and guys wear phat pants.
3.
Better, clearer picture is at the top of the article so people can see what the article is about. A reasonable person with no gender issues would not have a problem with there being a really good photo of a human being (regardless of their gender) wearing a pair of pants. If you insist on there being one boy for every girl, then keep the lower quality picture which is of a male. The only problems are the ones that you are creating.
It is true that at some point a picture of a male was removed, leaving only a picture of a female. The picture was uploaded with the caption "I own the pic and publish it to the domain.",
but it turns out... 
the picture was deleted on [14 December 2006] by a user who stated "photo of me removed, some sicko has been stalking me". 
This picture was posted by User:Bisuit brain another name that appeared pushing the same gender issues, editing with the same grammar and spelling mistakes, on the same pages. However you claim not to be them and then start making identical threats. 
This username was one of several under investigation of being a sock puppet. 
An example of an edit that both User:Biscuit brain and User:SteelAvenger have made is taking a photo I uploaded of a female friend of mine and changing it to say it is of a male. [Biscuit brain here] and [SteelAvenger here].
4.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/SteelAvenger
You have not reported me to wikipedia as a vandal. This is yet another threatening lie on your part deliberately designed to harrass and intimidate me.
Tiggertrouble 01:22, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Response to [[User:SteelAvenger]]

message: How do phat pants differ from bell bottoms? They look the same to me. Bell bottoms can also be made out of denim.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.146.8.46 (talk) 00:01, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Difference with bell bottoms 

message: I agree that Tripp should have its own page. Tripp NYC is its own company that does make pants that could be construed as Phat Pants, but they make other kinds of pants, jackets, shirts, and other accessories. Having "Tripp NYC" redirect to Phat Pants just doesn't make sense. -12:50 PM EST, 14 Apr 09. [Unsigned]
Tripp is a brand that makes phat pants, and are worn heavily in the punk, goth, and metal communities.  They aren't as dead as this article implies.  Wouldn't it be wiser to have Tripp NYC have an article or a section, as there was absolutly no mention of it in this one.
63.22.254.183 (talk) 02:08, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirection with Tripp NYC 

message: It says "Phat pants or phatties worn by (young) males" When phats are actually unisex.
It also states that they are "usually made of denim". When the most common material to make phats out of is "cotton-drill". They are also often associated with shuffling or "The Melbourne Shuffle". As mostly "Shufflers" wear phat pants.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.241.101.73 (talk) 08:54, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Description Revision