Wikipedia talk:Special:Preferences

message: I can't change my preferences.
I go here:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences and try to change a preference - e.g. Hide my edits from the watchlist or the new Suppress display of the fundraiser banner and try and save and the changes aren't saved and I see this:
Your password is invalid or too short. It must have at least 1 character and be different from your username.
Perhaps this language just needs to be changed to match changed requirements; my password meets the listed requirements.   --Elvey (talk) 23:04, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bug? 

message: Would it be possible put in a preference option to widen the search box in the upper right? I think many users would find this very useful. Thanks. --Albany NY (talk) 19:29, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New feature: Widen search box? 

message: Special:Preferences/Editing#mw-prefsection-editing offers two toolbars.
*"Show edit toolbar" (AKA "Legacy toolbar") links to W:Help:Edit toolbar, but should go to W:WP:Reftoolbar  or at least m:Help:Edit toolbar. 
*"Enable enhanced editing toolbar" (AKA "The toolbar") should link to w:wp:reftoolbar or w:Help:Edit toolbar, but has no link.— CpiralCpiral 07:06, 10 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The two toolbars 

message: Please add a link to this talk page from the Special:Preferences page.  (Currently it is targeted from Help:Preferences, but there is no guarantee that that content won't change, and the link from there to here vanish.)  Maybe this is a futile request due to cross-wiki reasons.  Maybe Special:Preferences only changes with MediaWiki software releases or patches.  Maybe anything that could be said here is discussed elsewhere.   Hey, maybe this is the very least likely talk page on Wikipedia!  — CpiralCpiral 19:51, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: This talk page

message: On the Gadget tab, there is an item "Justify Paragraphs". The word paragraph is a common noun, and should not be capitalized. Chris the speller yack 13:01, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization 

message: Should the default  Math appearance preference (most importantly for non logged in users) be changed from PNG to MathML? (getting the legibility on some devices fixed at the same time) Hungryce (talk)
=== Reference ===
No edits would have to be done because it is simply a Preference at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering-math. As far as I can tell it won't break anything because of it being simply a visual Preference. Any page with math on would be affected but again no actual 'edit' would happen on that page, actually because it is per user the server would not have to do any work. A low spec machine would probably not be running a modern browser that supports MathML and would use SVG or PNG automatically which has the same impact as current math rendering. If there was a problem you could turn it back to PNG or text only. There might me a slight time penalty because you browser would have to figure out what display to use but that would be insignificant compared to the processor use of the browser. No edit-a-thon would be required! The MathML is already an option, just not the default. I think that it would be the default for new users and a notification would be put out to notify existing users about it.
Non logged in users have no ability to change the preferences and therefor this option. This means that this is even more important for them to have this change because logged in users can edit this if they wish.
I has been noted that in some cases the legibility of primes (example: f'(x), f(x), f'(x)) is not so good (screen shot) but that can be fixed and if this is passed it will be fixed before the Preference is changed. Hungryce (talk) 22:51, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: * This will be very useful to have if this is passed. Hungryce (talk) 20:31, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

text: Given that this change would also affect articles in physics, chemistry, engineering, and statistics, I think it might be appropriate to have a watchlist notice.  But I don't know how to request one.  Ozob (talk) 00:27, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: To request a watchlist notice. go to MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-details and use  to advertise your request. —Kusma (t·c) 14:37, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC: Change Default Math Appearance Setting to MathML 

message: No edits would have to be done because it is simply a Preference at Special:Preferences#mw-prefsection-rendering-math. As far as I can tell it won't break anything because of it being simply a visual Preference. Any page with math on would be affected but again no actual 'edit' would happen on that page, actually because it is per user the server would not have to do any work. A low spec machine would probably not be running a modern browser that supports MathML and would use SVG or PNG automatically which has the same impact as current math rendering. If there was a problem you could turn it back to PNG or text only. There might me a slight time penalty because you browser would have to figure out what display to use but that would be insignificant compared to the processor use of the browser. No edit-a-thon would be required! The MathML is already an option, just not the default. I think that it would be the default for new users and a notification would be put out to notify existing users about it.
Non logged in users have no ability to change the preferences and therefor this option. This means that this is even more important for them to have this change because logged in users can edit this if they wish.
I has been noted that in some cases the legibility of primes (example: f'(x), f(x), f'(x)) is not so good (screen shot) but that can be fixed and if this is passed it will be fixed before the Preference is changed. Hungryce (talk) 22:51, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference 

message: ==== Support ====
*Support The MathML looks much nicer on high DPI screens and it has a fallback on SVG or PNG if the browser does not have support for it directly. Hungryce (talk) 01:52, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survey 

message: *Support The MathML looks much nicer on high DPI screens and it has a fallback on SVG or PNG if the browser does not have support for it directly. Hungryce (talk) 01:52, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Support 

message: *The proposal suggests modern browsers support MathML, but they don't. MathJax has recently abandoned MathML for their next version because of this, and I recommend reading that link to see their full analysis. I do not see why we would switch to using MathML by default at a time when it seems to be a dying standard. — Carl (CBM · talk) 01:28, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oppose 

message: * What will it break? How many pages will be affected? What happens on on low spec machines? What is the time gain or time penalty?  I would like to be reminded of this before I give support. When running an edit-a-thon our hosts scape together kit from the darkest cupboards and we have to get it working before we can deliver the goods. Default is default and the most we can hope for so it has got to work. -- Clem Rutter (talk) 20:39, 17 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: * This will be very useful to have if this is passed. Hungryce (talk) 20:31, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Threaded discussion 

message: This RfC does not appear to have been properly advertized on WP:Mathematics, where many users have strong feelings on this subject. I will list it there and it should run for a little while longer before being closed. --Sammy1339 (talk) 19:48, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that this change would also affect articles in physics, chemistry, engineering, and statistics, I think it might be appropriate to have a watchlist notice.  But I don't know how to request one.  Ozob (talk) 00:27, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: To request a watchlist notice. go to MediaWiki talk:Watchlist-details and use  to advertise your request. —Kusma (t·c) 14:37, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please extend this RfC 

message: Hi, I stopped looking at this page after my previous WP:RFC ended because there were not enough people to warrant any change. I am now aware that multiple people have commented asking me to extend this WP:RFC and that it has been put on Phabricator (). I see on Phabricator that they are waiting for some new system to be made that will work better and be deployed be default on all wikis. It has been suggested to advertise in more places. I propose that we don't wait for Phabricator and change it on our wiki now. I am posting two surveys one for now waiting for Phabricator and one for the overall topic. Please see above for the previous discussion and background information. Here are some pictures of what MathML vs. PNG looks like in my browser (Google Chrome 52.0.2715.0 (Official Build) canary (64-bit))   (Also feel free to fix my spelling, grammar, wording or whatever to improve this WP:RFC) Hungryce (talk) 16:58, 21 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Would you please place a example of each of these below for comparison? I'm not exactly sure what a !vote for support or oppose would do. — xaosflux Talk 15:51, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: , I am about to add some photos.
=== Survey (Ignore Phabricator) ===
At the current time, there is a Phabricator task for implementing a better math rendering system that will work across all devices. Should we ignore this and go ahead and make this change ourselves first?
==== Support ====
==== Oppose ====
=== Survey ===
Should we change to MathML as the default? The old WP:RFC did not have enough people to know for sure.
==== Support ====
*Support The "MathML with SVG fallback" is generally a better option than PNG, this should be run as a default for a good while to see if there are any problems before completely abandoning the PGN mode. (Client side MathJax is still a visually better mode).--Salix alba (talk): 06:43, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC: Change Default Math Appearance Setting to MathML (Follow Up) 

message: Should we change to MathML as the default? The old WP:RFC did not have enough people to know for sure.
==== Support ====
*Support The "MathML with SVG fallback" is generally a better option than PNG, this should be run as a default for a good while to see if there are any problems before completely abandoning the PGN mode. (Client side MathJax is still a visually better mode).--Salix alba (talk): 06:43, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survey 

message: *Support The "MathML with SVG fallback" is generally a better option than PNG, this should be run as a default for a good while to see if there are any problems before completely abandoning the PGN mode. (Client side MathJax is still a visually better mode).--Salix alba (talk): 06:43, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Support 

message: * Oppose.  Default options should be widely, if not universally supported, partly because users who are not logged in have no option to change the default appearance.  In the latest build of Firefox in Ubuntu LTS 14.04, the MathML implementation appears to be broken: vertical alignment is badly mangled.  I also find it not very encouraging that I already mentioned this issue in the previous RfC, as well as weeks before it at WT:WPM, yet no one involved in the MathML project seems to have acknowledged this serious problem with MathML.  SławomirBiały 13:27, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oppose 

message: The help section for the preferences page says that there should be an option to set a default size for the editing box, but I can't find this option anywhere. Was it removed? Natureium (talk) 14:55, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 152#Tech News: 2017-03 and Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 152#Edit window is too big. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:23, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I've updated the help page to remove the mention of this feature. Sam Walton (talk) 20:37, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size of edit box 

message: On the default skin, the button to restore default settings changes doesn't look like a button. On first glance, it looks like a warning explaining that the Save button will restore all settings to default!
Adding a thin border around the button would make it far clearer that it's actually a separate button.
GrayWolf512 (talk) 21:31, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reset settings button doesn't look like a button 

message: In the Signature part of the User Profile section, there's a checkbox marked, "Treat the above as wiki markup." However, the link leads to a subsection in the mainspace Wiki article instead of Help:Wikitext. I believe this is in error and should be corrected. Yutah123|UPage|(talk)✶ 23:42, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change Wikitext Link