Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Novels/Harry Potter task force/Archive 7

message: I just wanted to let everyone know that I taged all the book cover pictures that were not taged yet, as well as a lot more pictures. I hope that helps. Have a good day.--CJ King 20:11, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, CJ King! Do you think we should add an "image" class to the template, and add an if: operation that will change all instances of the word "article" to "image"? --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 21:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you suggesting a new template or suggesting somehow modifying the template so the changes are transcluded?John Reaves 23:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That would mess it up a bit - all of the redirect pages are tagged with NA too. RHB 16:22, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, modifying all pictures so that they appear as  and that would make the template read something like "This image is part of the WikiProject Harry Potter…" etc. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 16:48, 6 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I was talking about modifying the template to remove NA and replace it with image. RHB 17:28, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, okay. No, as you say, we shouldn't do that, because we don't want all the articles with class=NA to change. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 18:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tagging pictures 

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John Reaves 03:57, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  BE warnings for user talk pages 

message: I was starting to completely rewirte this page over break, but as I start back at school tomorrow I may not have enough time to focus on this. See the details at Talk:Harry Potter fandom#Further thoughts and the draft page of the rewrite at Talk:Harry Potter fandom/Rewrite. I've taken care of the sections "fan sites" and "conventions" and would like to handle "podcasting" and, if nobody else wants to "music," but as for "fanfiction" and "roleplaying games," I'm not involved enough in those fields of the fandom to write well about them. This rewrite is in the hopes of proposing an easier way of maintaining the external links in the article. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 05:26, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite of [[Harry Potter fandom]] 

message: I noticed that some of our characters have been listed in cat 'Fictional English people', and cat 'Fictional British people'. They are all listed in cat 'HP characters', which is a sub cat of both the other two. Now, having every possible english or British fictional character as a direct member of 'english' or 'british' is just impossible. How many fictional characters are there? So they all ought only to be in a sub cat of either of those. Ok, they are, in 'hp characters'. The trouble with that, is that some HP characters are not English or even British. It seems to me the best quick fix is to delete all cat entries for HP characters into both of 'British' and 'english', but this still leaves some characters who are wrongly included. The difficulty is that dividing our characters by nationality is not very usefull as a brand new category. Sandpiper 11:57, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the two categories Fictional British people and Fictional English people so that the cat. Harry Potter characters is no longer a sub cat of the two. Is it all right? PeaceNT (Talk | contribs) 05:42, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: it is rather the opposite of what I would have done. The difficulty with it is that all HP characters therefore ought to be entered individually as British/English. To paraphrase the commentary to the hitchhikers guide to the universe, 'this is, of course, impossible'. Not specifically, but in general it is impossible to add every fictional character individually to the category. Particularly a work like Hp which has maybe 100 entries, needs to be entered as a sub-category. So do you plan to create these? Sandpiper 01:22, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the cat. fictional English/British characters for the simple reason that they are erroneous categories, as you had pointed out not every HP character is English/British. Frankly, I don't think it's important to label every fictional character with their nationalities. But if this must be done, it shouldn't be a big problem to add the cat. directly. HP has lots of entries, yet not all of them are articles for characters. After all, a number of HP major characters have been individually included in the cat 'fictional English' for some time. PeaceNT (Talk | contribs) 16:31, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, the HP articles certainly belong in the category, otherwise what's the point? If it's the category you don't like, take it to WP:CFD. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 04:03, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course I know these articles belong to the category, but it still looks preposterous. "Fictional English people" is a very general conception and plays no role in depicting the characteristics. This is a totally useless category. I suggest that we should remove it from all articles of HP first and I'll nominate it to "Category for deletion". Everyone agrees?AbelinCAusesobad 06:09, 11 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm not convinced that the general category 'fictional english people' is useless, but it is definitely not an invention of HP. It spans all fiction, so deleting it is not an issue specifically for us. I agree, I don't see the point of listing every character as a member of this cat separately, it just muddles the cat list at the end of articles, which is becoming rather full of not very exciting categories in some cases. Having too many cats listed makes the link box unhelpfull. Sandpiper 09:49, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category Issue 

message: I don't know where to propose this idea so I decide to talk to you. I have recently found this category in every character's article related to Harry Potter series and I see it such pointless information. Categories supply us the most remarkable characteristics, not a paragraph describing every minor detail about the character, and the "Fictional English people" one looks very crazy and sweeping. Thus I think we should remove this cat from all articles because it's really unnecessary.  Moved from User talk:John Reaves.  Originally posted by: AbelinCAusesobad
:Well, the HP articles certainly belong in the category, otherwise what's the point? If it's the category you don't like, take it to WP:CFD. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 04:03, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course I know these articles belong to the category, but it still looks preposterous. "Fictional English people" is a very general conception and plays no role in depicting the characteristics. This is a totally useless category. I suggest that we should remove it from all articles of HP first and I'll nominate it to "Category for deletion". Everyone agrees?AbelinCAusesobad 06:09, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not convinced that the general category 'fictional english people' is useless, but it is definitely not an invention of HP. It spans all fiction, so deleting it is not an issue specifically for us. I agree, I don't see the point of listing every character as a member of this cat separately, it just muddles the cat list at the end of articles, which is becoming rather full of not very exciting categories in some cases. Having too many cats listed makes the link box unhelpfull. Sandpiper 09:49, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cat: Fictional English people 

message: I'd suggest we transwiki all information at wikia:harrypotter:Harry Potter in translation series to Wiktionary, if there's consensus (and the energy) to do so. I don't think much of the Wikia HP site; it's not very well maintained. The info can of course remain there but I feel it belongs at a stronger source. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 03:50, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know much about Wiktionary's policies, but would this be acceptable?  Does Wiktionary take lists of non-English words (which the article essentially is)?  John Reaves 03:54, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wiktionary doesn't accept lists, but each of the words would receive its own entry. And yes, just take a quick glance around Wiktionary (it's a lot of fun), and you'll see that words of all languages are on the en site. The only distinction between the "en" and all other subdomains is that the definitions are written in English. The only question is whether they'll accept all these proper nouns from a fictional series. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 04:02, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I know I'm not going to do it.  You can go ahead though.  John Reaves 04:03, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transwiki of information from "Harry Potter in translation series" 

message: Does anybody have a list of HP related categories?  John Reaves 09:18, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've created a list at Wikipedia:WikiProject Harry Potter/Categories. John Reaves 09:38, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories 

message: From background below, the article has completely disappeared? Its not being hidden with those <-- > things. Can anyone point out/fix the problem? RHB 20:48, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks fine to me. John Reaves 03:31, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was just a <ref> link not being closed, cut off some of the article. Thanks anyway. RHB 20:16, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There, destroyed the rest of this page :/ RHB 20:16, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Hermione Granger]]

message: Would we be able to semi-protect this article, to stop anonymous IPs editing it? I'm getting sick of these constant references to him being sodomised with broomsticks and having affairs with Barty and Bella. Michaelsanders 19:50, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt it - theres been relatively few instances of vandalism - I would say a candidate for protection might be HP7 because of the general spam/OR/unverified claims/vandalism, but I haven't looked at the history. RHB 20:16, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sirius Black

message: Can I just point out the To Do list on the Harry Potter talk page. With that and a bit of prose checking/copyediting it should be good enough for FA. Thanks, RHB 13:11, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also see its previous application for FA status at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Harry Potter. John Reaves (talk) 10:55, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Harry Potter

message: This is, in part, a response to the discussion at the top of the page concerning the possessions lists that seem to work there way into HP articles.  Would anybody be opposed to adding a section for Wand (i.e. length/wood type/core) and Pet(s) (i.e. Crookshanks, with a link to its article if it has one)?  This would eliminate two pretty common things from the lists that aren't easy to work into the text. John Reaves (talk) 10:53, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that would really be too much information in an infobox, if you ask me. An infobox should be short and succinct. Information that really gets into the details belongs in the prose of the article. That information could easily be mentioned at the end of the lead, or, when we finally break down the biography part of characters from sections by book into sections by action, the information could be mentioned then. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 03:33, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, just wanted to get some opinions. John Reaves (talk) 07:08, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character template addendum 

message: Hey folks, while glacing through my favourite Harry Potter article, I noticed that the first reference in Horcrux had a quoted definition of "receptacle in which a Dark wizard has hidden a fragment of his soul for the purposes of attaining immortality.", with the reference provided as Author's website, Diary entry, Sept 29th. Of course, the current entry (December 19 at the time of this post) does not contain a definition of Horcrux, so I set about looking for a real citation and found this gem of a web page:  This message thread contains a record of many (if not all) of Rowling's updates to her web site. We can also try using the Wayback Machine, but this page should definitely help us to find a cached version of Rowling's page (however, the latest version is "Jun 02, 2006", so the Wayback Machine would have been useless here). This should help us find citations for other Harry Potter articles. --Deathphoenix ʕ 03:14, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a pretty interesting message board, and I suppose the Lexicon's Ultimate Guide to Jo's Site would be a reliable source to cite in case we can't find anything using Archive.org. I agree, it's rather frustrating that there's no official record of it now on her site as it currently appears. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 03:27, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, thank you, I wasn't aware of that archive. Since it's a more notable site, I decided to change the link to that one instead. --Deathphoenix ʕ 03:54, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useful link to archived J.K. Rowling material 

message: Removed cfdnotice, cfd has completed. --Kbdank71 15:16, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  CFD notice 

message: Can someone stick a detailed FUR for this? Grab some ideas from other book covers if you need some help. Thanks, RHB Talk - Edits 22:14, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's a nice image, but is it qualified for fair use in that article? Perhaps in an article comparing/contrasting the book covers, but I wouldn't too readily tag a rationale onto that one until we feel it's necessary in the article. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 02:12, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: FUR for [[:Image:HarryPotterCovers.jpg]]

message: Someone insists on changing the JPG versionof the Hogwarts seal SVG version.  The JPG version is obviously a better choice (as the SVG is bland and cartoonish).  Does anybody know a way to circumvent the issue of "SVG superiority" and include the JPG instead? John Reaves (talk) 23:21, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there something stopping us from converting the JPG image into an SVG file? I don't have a clue how to do it though… --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 02:10, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think, maybe, that the new image is what happens when you convert. I could be wrong though, I know very little about images. John Reaves (talk) 22:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hogwarts seal image

message: Hi folks, I did a few maintenance tasks related to the HP watchlist, and among these was adding  to a whole bunch of talk pages to link them to the HP Wikiproject. Now, I'm not on the article assessment team, so I figured I wouldn't be in the position to make a judgement of these articles. Or rather, I'm too lazy to perform assessments, and I also made what might be a grossly stupid assessment of "NA" to the templates without really knowing where templates lie in the assessment scheme of things. FYI, I've summarised the articles I added to the Wikiproject below. Also, just a friendly reminder that if you see any articles related to Harry Potter, please add them to the HP watchlist. Thanks! :-) --Deathphoenix ʕ 20:30, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 'NA' stands for "Non-Article" or "Not an Article" (or something like that), so I'd say it's a correct label. John Reaves (talk) 22:27, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe Deathphoenix was looking for the appropriate rating for the second part of the list – the seven articles of mostly soundtracks. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 04:57, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  My gross stupidity and laziness on article assessment 

message: Does anyone else think this article should be rated higher than 'B-Class'? John Reaves (talk) 18:49, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the next rating above that is GA-class, and the article is definitely not stable as the book hasn't been released yet. I'd wait until the beginning of August or so. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 23:55, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, I thought it was A-class. Though this is one of the most well-referenced articles we have. John Reaves (talk) 00:01, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix (film) is extremely well-referenced too but they suggested to wait until the movie comes out. I guess in the mean time we should really focus our attention to books and films that have come out… :-) --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 00:02, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows rating

message: Does anybody think this is worth keeping around?  It's hardly ever updated and not really useful. John Reaves (talk) 05:58, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is. At least Portal:Harry Potter/Harry Potter news is frequently updated. PeaceNT 06:16, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Portal:Harry Potter]] 

message: Given that we now have a Good Article in Lord Voldemort (and a belated well done to Onomatopoeia for that), I think it would be a good idea to choose another article to rewrite in the same fashion (rather than either everyone running off and creating poor/unnecessary/contradictory rewrites, or the progressive desire losing momentum). And then, if that one works, choose another. Et cetera. Anyone have any suggestions? Michaelsanders 12:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Harry Potter is very close to FA standard. A couple of us have been doing some editing on that one, and its down to 47kb. Theres a to do list I created earlier too. RHB Talk - Edits 13:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the flowers! Harry Potter looks good indeed. Concerning chars, I propose Hermione Granger: main character in books and films, enough material to write about, appears in interviews by JKR, possibly also interesting to analyse as prime example of real-life "shipping wars". —Onomatopoeia 13:36, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  How about Severus Snape? PeaceNT 17:08, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Depends whether we're up to the challenge. It would be very difficult to write an article to these standards on him without treading on peoples toes. And it would need substantial revision once we found out from HPDH whether he is truly evil or truly good (or whatever). On the other hand, if we could pull off a GA for him, especially under such circumstances, it would certainly be impressive... Michaelsanders 17:14, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only thing about Harry Potter, I've just realized, is that since the article has a "future" section, there's no way to get it to FA before July 21. But we should certainly try to get GA- and A-class articles in characters, all set to go to add on information from DH, like Onomatopoeia (further congrats!) did for LV. I think that the only articles we could hypothetically have at FA standard now would be those that don't deal directly with information found in DH, namely, the first six books, the first four movies, and J. K. Rowling. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 21:45, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Improvement

message: Regarding Template:Harry Potter characters, I moved Dumbledore and Snape to Main characters, besides Harry, Ron, Hermione and Voldemort. Hope no one has any objections. PeaceNT 04:38, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Main characters

message: Hello all, I know I've brought this up before, it's just that I started this a month and a half ago and haven't finished yet, due to being busy with school. I'm trying to rewrite Harry Potter fandom and so far, the parts that I've finished could easily be GA status. However, the Roleplaying, Podcast, and Music sections I haven't completed. You can see the rewrite page at Talk:Harry Potter fandom/Rewrite. I know a fair amount about Podcasts and Wizard rock, and if necessary I could write a section on them. But I honestly know nothing about the roleplaying aspect of the fandom, and for somebody to write that would be tremendously appreciated. You don't really have to know too much, just a basic knowledge, and be good at Googling for references -- that's all it takes, if you know something is true and have a decent idea where you can find information on it. If you want, you can go ahead and write Podcast and Music sections as well. (I've also created, but not written anything in, an "Iconic landmarks tours," referring to the tours that go through England and Scotland that point out locations for the films and the café were JKR wrote PS, etc., so working on that too would be great.) I just have a lot of work, and would love to see this finally get done! --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 04:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What the hell, I've got the day off tomorrow, I'll have a go at it. TonyJoe 05:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harry Potter fandom -- another call 

message: I recently rewrote a lot of Ron Weasley to match the new, out-of-universe design on Lord Voldemort, but the Ron article is still a little lacking in stuff besides role in the book. With just a little more time we could get it up to GA level. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 00:09, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks very solid. Some minor points: 1) it probably needs a copyedit in "Attributes" (as a GA patrol guy, I can say that sections with only 1 sentence are frowned upon), 2) a dedicated "Appearances in Film" section would be good, 3) as you said, more out-of-universe statements, from JKR or Rupert Grint, if available. But these minor things aside, it is a big step towards . —Onomatopoeia 13:07, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I didn't have time to flesh out those one- or two-sentence sections, but I wanted to create at least a foundation. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 21:50, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Ron Weasley]] 

message: I'm debating whether to send this article to AfD. When the proposal to create the article was tossed around, I was all for it, but now I'm seeing that, if an actor is only notable for small appearances in Harry Potter films, they probably don't pass WP:BIO. I don't think anybody on that page is currently notable elsewhere, so they wouldn't be lost if the article was deleted. Besides, they're all mentioned on the individual cast pages and List of Harry Potter films cast members. The article also posed some problems with having a plethora of FU images, which I eventually just got tired of and temporarily put comment markers around until something was figured out. Any thoughts on this? --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 22:53, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I say send it to Afd, it's especially redundant given the main list. John Reaves (talk) 23:19, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: All right, nobody else has anything to say so I'm going to send this guy to AfD… --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 22:25, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'm rather surprised to see that this passed an AfD. I really didn't count on that happenning, and was expecting a deletion. So, what do you want to do with it? If we can't delete the article as a whole, we can keep the more notable of these already minor actors, and delete the ones where the only information on them is one sentence, redirecting their individual articles to List of Harry Potter films cast members. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 22:00, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What to do with [[Minor actors and actresses in Harry Potter]]? 

message: I have added NavFrames to . Comments? John Reaves (talk) 09:41, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:Harry Potter characters]] 

message: Hi, why is there no article about Mr Borgin? / 81.226.194.196 21:05, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See Borgin and Burkes, its merged into that article. RHB Talk - Edits 21:22, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mr Borgin 

message: Hey guys, Harry Potter fandom has been promoted to GA status! Thanks for your help with it! It's now currently in peer review. Any changes you can make to the article (specifically expanding the lead) would be most appreciated.
In the mean time, Controversy over Harry Potter is a GA nom. This article was just listed as a GA! Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 00:32, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New GA! 

message: All of them (with the exception of Order of the Phoenix, which isn't out) are just mainly made up of lists. Has anyone played them enough to help clean them up? RobJ1981 14:17, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, never play video games. I do agree that those often go ignored though. Perhaps we can recruit from the Videogaming WP. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 17:23, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Harry Potter video game articles in major need of help

message: It's been created again. I just checked WP:CRYSTAL and technically, since it's been announced, there's no problem with it. But there's not much to say, except that the trio will be back, and Heyman and Kloves are involved. Can we just move it into a subsection of the book article? Or do people think it should stay? --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 02:56, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Move it into the book??? Isn't there enough hassle there already? I don't mind if it exists or not, but if you are set on deleting it, well it is something which is going to happen. Sandpiper 21:53, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind, it's been (appropriately) redirected to the book article for such little information on production. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 02:34, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deathly Hallows film article 

message: Harry Potter fan art is up for deletion on Commons. Harry Potter Fan art. Bryan 12:24, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fan art 

message: This article's been nominated for AfD. Please check the article page, and then go over and assess neutrally whether it should keep or be deleted, or something else. What might be best is to source the page right now: note how the filmmakers use dates, and Jo checks them, and it is generally important. We don't need to up it to FA status, but at least show that it's worthy of keeping, in my opinion. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 02:36, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Dates in Harry Potter]] 

message: As there are so many links, i have created a starter disambiguation page for Harry Potter. Simply south 22:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambig 

message: Separately, i have put List of Harry Potter films cast members up for WP:RM. Simply south 23:24, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast Members 

message: Blood purity is up for deletion. John Reaves (talk) 23:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Blood purity]] AFD 

message: I am petitioning to have this page altered to rmeove the restriction against using succession boxes for fictional characters. I think this group has an interest since several related pages for fictional characters are already using these boxes. Please Vote Here.--Dr who1975 18:25, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)#Infoboxes and succession boxes|Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)]]

message: I've created  so that current AfDs will now be placed on this talk page at the top (see the top of this page). That template currently transcludes Wikipedia:WikiProject Harry Potter/AfD. I was wondering what people would think if we deleted that project page and just automatically put all AfDs on the new template. We might also want to consider putting GA noms, DRVs, FACs, etc., in this noticeboard.
This could also be placed on your user or talk page, if you wanted. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 21:01, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What about WP:RMs? Simply south 21:03, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course, all those project-related activities and the like. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 21:14, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine by me. I'll delete after some more input. John Reaves (talk) 21:50, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New template

message: Hey all, Harry Potter fandom is almost all set to go to WP:FAC! There's just a few things left over from its peer review which I could use your assistance on, besides a general fresh eye on the article:
*Perhaps one more paragraph in the lead (right after the second one would work) summarizing the rest of the article, unless you think that's adequately done in the first paragraph. It's pretty hard to summarize, compared to other articles, because this is basically a list of subsections of the fandom with paragraphs on them, whereas other articles are about one topic broken down into sections. I think it's all right as it is, but maybe you guys think it could be longer.
*Check for American spellings in the article. As I am American, I don't know what they'd be.
*If you can (on a personal request from one peer reviewer), can anybody find a reliable citation for fans of a Sirius/Remus 'ship?
*The last two paragraphs of the Roleplaying section could use with citations, but it's so hard to cite since it comes from playing them that you know this. If they go uncited, it probably won't be called into question and is one of those things which don't need references, as they aren't controversial, but if we can find a good cite that would be nice.
*Is there anything major missing?
Best, Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 03:23, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do books written about Hp count as fandom, or something else? Are they included here? Sandpiper 10:04, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, this is kind of more general people reaction, but I suppose there could certainly be a section on books, or at least a mention of it. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 17:33, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I answered the question because someone asked, but I had been wondering where to properly categorise and mention books written about HP. Fandom is perhaps not quite right, but  then 'derivative works' has an explanatory tag saying 'ie parodies', which isn't right either. Strictly speaking, there are by now quite a lot of books  written discussing the books by Rowling.  User:Sandpiper 20:34, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, then again, there are plenty of books about a number of other topics, though there aren't articles listing every book about them. You could make a "Futher reading" section on the main Harry Potter article, actually. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 14:33, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final preparations for [[Harry Potter fandom]]'s FAC 

message: Does anyone know if the Wiki system can support a countdown timer for fixed future events that can be displayed on User pages and perhaps articles?  I think it would be pretty cool if someone with the skills could set us up with a user template or something with a count-down timer for Midnight (GMT or user-selected time) July 13 for the OoTP film, and July 21 for the DH book.  Just a thought.  Or maybe it already exists and I have just not found it yet.  --T-dot (Talk | contribs) 17:13, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Countdown Timer 

message: Dates in Harry Potter - I've recreated the article. I've done some major rewriting, and a lot of sourcing, and I've readded it to the main section because I think it's in good enough condition now to pass muster; however, I haven't reached the bottom yet, which consequently is still in bad shape. Please could you help if you get the chance? Michael  Sanders 01:13, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Michael, since the article was speedily deleted (WP:CSD#G4), why don't you rewrite the entire article either on a subpage of your user page or on a project subpage, and when it's ready to go into the main namespace, move it in with the template . If you've sourced it, whether it was already deleted or not, it's fair game. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 18:42, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Recreated at Dates in Harry Potter, complete with template, and talk page explanation. Thanks for the advice. Michael  Sanders 19:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm only seeing a template on the deletion at that link.  The deleted article itself is no longer redlinked, but it also contains no information other than the deletion info template.  As far as I can tell we still have no verifiability or traceability on birth years and such for any of our Project articles, with the exception perhaps of Draco Malfoy, for whom Rowling set a specific birthdate I think in 1980.  Other than that, we have no reference or citation capability for the years we have posted for events in the HP universe, which means we are still in grave danger of an unrelenting "citation needed" attack by the same sort of folks who voted to delete the timeline in the first place as OR and whatnot (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dates in Harry Potter).  So our problem remains. --T-dot (Talk | contribs) 17:21, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was deleted again on the same day. See Wikipedia:Deletion review/Log/2007 April 6 for the Deletion review, and give your opinion on the matter. Michael  Sanders 19:10, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dates in Harry Potter (2) 

message: URGENT:  One of the justifications for deleting the Dates in Harry Potter article, raised by an outside admin, is that hardly anything linked to the Dates page, according to the What Links Here tool.  Most of us know that virtually every article in the HP Project, that had an in-universe Date mentioned, was linked back to the Dates in Harry Potter page for reference as a reliable check.  When the Dates article was deleted (first round), many well-meaning editors deleted the resulting red-links to the Dates page.  The article has been re-established for the time being, and is now called "non-notable" because hardly anything links back there any more, and is subject to re-deletion.  Please help with re-establishing the links to Dates in harry Potter on the character and events pages!  --T-dot (Talk | contribs) 12:46, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've restored a lot of the old links. However, there are no doubt still dates that should be linked to the chronology article (which is more appropriate than linking them to a real date article, e.g. 1477), so anyone who finds any unlinked or inappropriately linked dates, link them, and hope it doesn't turn out to be a waste. Michael  Sanders 22:17, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The admin that closed the original afd removed all of the links when it was deleted.  We can probably go back and try to revert/undo those removals.John Reaves (talk) 06:56, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth Dates Etc. 

message: Editors will be pleased to know that the Chronology of the Harry Potter stories AfD resulted in a healthy keep decision. Michael  Sanders 19:09, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Chronology

message: See my comments on the Talk:Quidditch page, under Regional Teams. It seems to me that with the exception of the UK teams, that all of these are made up. There is no sourcing for any of them. What is the policy for inclusion of a team? Someone added another one just today. Tuyvan 05:54, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Quidditch Article