Talk:Curtin University

message: The guild being a part of this article gives off the impression that it is part of the university, and not an independent organisation. Given all other student unions/guilds within the national union of students have their own pages, and the significant history, governance etc. I have created a Draft:Curtin Student Guild that contains up to date information. The article was a stub in 2015, but is not now. WAXIT (talk) 15:25, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Curtin Student Guild 

message: I am an academic at Curtin and monitor this page a bit. I am a little unhappy with the marketing hype in the section, Curtin Sarawak. While this campus is good, and the staff dedicated and it provides a good-quality education, the tone of the piece suggests it has been lifted out of an advertising brochure....
:G'day Academic_at_Curtin.  (I've taken the liberty of moving your comment into its own section...)  Ummmm...  The answer is fairly obvious: be bold.  If you have a problem with something, do a bit of homework, and fix it!  By the way, you will find registering yourself to be advantageous in many ways -- then (among other benefits) you can have a user tag like this: Gordon | Talk, 7 October 2006 @06:05 UTC
:I've removed just about all of the section, as it was indeed a copyright infringement from press releases and advertising material put out by Curtin. It was added in March 2006 by Klauskrauss, who, judging by his user talk page, has a rather fuzzy grasp of copyright concepts and little desire to discuss it. —LX (talk, contribs) 14:15, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marketing Hype 

message: says hardly anything about the academic programs at Curtin. which is the core of any uni. look at most other uni entries in Wikipedia. sounds too much like a campus guide than an encyclopaedia entry. Michellecrisp 00:30, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: this article

message: We keep getting infantile vandalism from this university (at least from IP address 134.7.248.130). I'm wondering if these are done by students or by some kindergarten kids who somehow abuse the university's equipment. If these are really students, then I am wondering if the university has any requirements for the maturity of its students. — Sebastian 05:39, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't matter how much vandalism an IP user can do - this has to occur because anybody can vandalise; it's a free website. It does not have any link to the maturity of the students in the university. Plus, does this have any relevance to this article? 134.7.248.130 08:22, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you for your reply; you're right, this has no relevance to the article. I hope, however, that everybody who reads this page cares both for Curtin and for Wikipedia, so it is not quite as inappropriate. Before I reply to your other points, let's find an appropriate location. Where else do you propose we should discuss this? I considered User talk:134.7.248.130, but since this is only one of many Curtis addresses to which this discussion applies, I feel it should be discussed in a more general location. How about Wikipedia talk:Vandalism, or would that be too general? — Sebastian 17:03, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What criteria does this university have for the maturity of its students? 

message: Hey, I've just found out that Curtin University of Technology is actually having a name change to just Curtin University. So I have moved the page to Curtin University as part of the change.
For the source check this website Our name change - Curtin University Andyman14 (talk) 12:45, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Name 

message: The uni now has a new logo. I don't know how to create an svg file for the logo, can someone else upload it or show me how to? 121.221.164.246 (talk) 11:06, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Logo 

message: The table of academic rankings was vandalized. I restored it. Trideceth12 (talk) 07:08, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Please assume good faith and do not accuse editors who are enforcing policy of vandalism. It looks like we don't actually disagree to some extent about the POV issues in this article - when I went back and looked over your edits, some of them were dealing with the same sections I'd identified as problematic. But by quoting false claims cited to a group on a badly-designed website who doesn't even identify its own sponsors or staff authors, you undermine your own case to get the POV fluff on here removed. Orderinchaos 07:43, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

text: Yeah okay... I'm not claiming all my edits were perfect, just when you removed the whole lot of them, including the table which I had specifically modeled on a good article on an Australian University (Sydney), I felt like you were making a personal attack. How it is now is a lot better than it was anyway :) Trideceth12 (talk) 07:48, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No worries. It was very confusing to track as there was major structural changes, which is why I'd pared it back, and as you'd notice, I'd made some very similar edits as it turned out and also restored the move of the History section. I'd mistakenly thought the table was from the same source as the first statement, so my apologies. Orderinchaos 07:52, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Academic Rankings 

message: In 2012, the institute's decision to award an honorary doctorate to the wife of the Malaysian Prime Minister, who has been ridiculed over reports of her excessive shopping sprees, has sparked an internet backlash. The award prompted a flood of outraged comments on Curtin University's Facebook page, many claiming the West Australian-based university's reputation had been tarnished. In its original, since altered media release announcing the award, Curtin added insult to injury by referring to Mansor as the Malaysian “First Lady”, a faux-pas that enraged monarchists who pointed out the title is reserved for the Queen. 
I agree that the statement "who has been ridiculed over reports of her excessive shopping sprees" is POV, 
The statement that it has sparked an internet backlash is substantiated by several sources and is pertinent to Curtin.
http://www.crikey.com.au/2012/02/17/curtin-uni-students-revolt-over-rosmah-mansor-gong/
http://www.theage.com.au/technology/technology-news/uni-slammed-over-honorary-doctorate-for-malaysian-pms-wife-20120217-1td56.html
insult to injury is POV.
The faux-pas was acknoledged by Curtin University
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=341479882562770
I suggest that the following edits be made before committing in the article. 
In 2012, the institute's awarded an honorary doctorate to the wife of the Malaysian Prime Minister which sparked an internet backlash on Facebook and prompted the institution to temporarily disable the wall on the Facebook page. In its original media release announcing the award, the institution referred to Mansor as the Malaysian First Lady. The term was deemed inappropriate as Malaysia is a Constitutional Monarchy and not a Republic. The original press was later retracted and acknowledged as a faux-pas by the institution.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.133.9.73 (talk) 14:07, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That addresses some of the WP:NPOV concerns. (I still feel that "internet backlash" – sensationalist media hyperbole for "a bit of criticism by some people on the Internet" – and "faux pas" – Curtin did not use that word; they simply acknowledged that their wording had offended some people – are loaded words.) More importantly: it does not address WP:UNDUE. The history section currently covers the WAIT era, the name change to Curtin University of Technology, the proposed merger with Murdoch, a notable ranking of the university, and the name change to Curtin University. This recent Facebook campaign is not an event of long-term relevance in the university's history. —LX (talk, contribs) 17:29, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV and UNDUE 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
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*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20080220072618/http://www.thewest.com.au:80/default.aspx?MenuID=77 to http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=77&ContentID=54424
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 csiro is okay, but thewest failed
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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I have been trying to add images to the page and have been told I can no longer edit the page directly myself.  Due to this I have taken photos of my own and now uploaded them here.  Please approve an add to the Wikipedia page for Curtin University.



...for some reason one of the images displays sideways??  Can you remove if it doesn't display correctly on the webpage and I will try again.
thank you - Kookyrabbit (talk) 03:41, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I approve adding these images to the article. Our policy strongly discourages editors with a conflict-of-interest from directly modifying articles, but does not absolutely forbid the practice. Therefore, since a neutral volunteer has approved your proposal, it is alright to add the images yourself. Thanks, Altamel (talk) 04:11, 3 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have just added the three that were not there already. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 06:52, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition of images 

message: The section called Alumni is long and unwieldy. Perhaps it could be improved by categorising into faculties ... :) ...? The equivalent list for UWA includes academics, researchers and scientists for example, even a Nobel laureate. ECU seems more balanced too. Is Curtin able to produce notable alumni in humanities only? Betterkeks (talk) 22:33, 24 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Be BOLD and just do it.  Not sure how you might find the faculties, with a ref, they studied in though.  You might have to just group by broad type of proffession.  Aoziwe (talk) 12:12, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alumni section is unwieldy