Talk:A Hard Day's Night (film)

message: *Sort out red links
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*Remove IMDd link , its unreliable
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*Remove unfree image
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*Release history section completely unsourced, why?
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*Information on the locations would be better merged into the backdround section.
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*Generally the article is insufficiantly sourced. I could go through it with citation tags ....
: hopefull all covered now
Hum i will put this article onhold, it must be sourced better. If you dont think you can resolve these issues within 7-10 days let me know. Realist2 (talk) 07:14, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: To do list

message: Part1 (A=Pass B=Pass) - Well written, correct style and formatt.
Part2 (A=Pass B=Pass C=Pass) - Well sourced, correctly formatted, no original material.
Part3 (A=Pass B=Pass) - Broad, covers the main points without going off point. 
Part4 (A=Pass) - Neutral
Part5 (A=Pass) - Stable
Part6 (A=Pass B=Pass) - Good pictures with good captions. 
GA PASSED!
Well done folks!!! - --Realist2 (talk) 19:49, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks a lot, Realist2! We got there. I've put the template at the top, you just need to swap my sig for yours. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 19:56, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Very much, in fact. I apologise for misreading your motives. Let's move on to the next GA Nom. --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 20:09, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

text: This is what I call really nice. Is this what happens when I stop editing?--andreasegde (talk) 20:56, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Only when, not because. Thanks for your input, plenty more work around the corner! --Rodhullandemu (Talk) 20:59, 5 April 2008 (UTC)

text: You have such a way with words, Andreasegde, just like a true poet. :) Cheers, Kodster (Willis)  (Look what I can do) 22:55, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Final review

message: Surely Paddington Station would be too busy to film at? http://www.movie-locations.com/movies/h/harddaysnight.html mentions Lime St Station and Marylebourne Station, though it does say they meant to be at Paddington, which may be why the confusion lies.
Paul  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.195.50 (talk) 14:46, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paddington Station? 

message: Having managed to score a copy of the novelisation, I added a very basic section about it. I don't know if that's the right place to put it, so feel free to put it somewhere else if you can think of a more appropriate place. Not much to say about the novelisation except that it's by a British hack writer named John Burke who's written a lot of other novelisations besides, and like most novelisations it has all the evidence of being based on an earlier draft than the one that was shot. e.g., The press conference is a scene in the book but none of the Beatles' quips from the film are in it; instead there are what looks like attempts, probably by Alun Owen, to think up Beatleoid quips that were probably replaced on the day of shooting. Still, I am a bit of a connoisseur of the novelisation and I was glad to find a copy of this one. Lexo (talk) 00:07, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Novelisation 

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message: I added a "fact" tag to the reference to Rampling being in the film. I have been unable to find any reputable online source indicating she appeared in the film. Not even the IMDb lists this. And the fan sites - as well a Rampling's Wikipedia article - all say she made her film debut in another Richard Lester film, The Knack in 1965. 68.146.81.123 (talk) 04:10, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation needed for Charlotte Rampling appearance

message: The wiki article under "Plot" states "Bound for a Liverpool show, the Beatles escape a horde of fans". Next paragraph starts "On arrival in London". It was my understanding that the opening, while filmed in London, was meant to represent Liverpool Lime Street Station, and the boys are departing from Liverpool, and in fact are bound for a London show.http://www.movie-locations.com/movies/h/harddaysnight.html#.U7qc241dUsw But I'm no Beatles scholar.  Kzirkel (talk) 13:15, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Bound for Where?

message: The article says it cost so many pounds, but the box office was so many dollars. This is unencyclopedic and puzzling. What was the 1964 exchange rate? One of the cost figures should be converted to give the reader some idea of how profitable it was. The figure for box office is not a sensible one, since the reference cited states that it starts in 1982, 18 years after the film premiered. It is pretty much a meaningless and misleading figure, and "Unknown" would be more accurate. It was a famous and popular and widely seen film, though it appeared to have been made on a minimal production budget, save perhaps the salaries for the musical group.  Edison (talk) 03:39, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Brit vs US currency

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message: It seems to have gotten fashionable to call AHDN the "first mockumentary" or refer to its supposed "documentary quality" as some kind of first, ever since for marketing purposes a VHS or DVD edition of it from the 90s or later has called it a "mockumentary" on the back cover blurb just to sell more copies due to using a fashionable term. All that just because the film purports to be showing a few days in the lifes of The Beatles in a way that's most obviously fictional, being a style of narration which had been known from Hollywood musicals about music stars before, such as the films Elvis Presley and Frank Sinatra had made in the 50s and early 60s, or The Girl Can't Help It (1956), the latter being an important influence upon the early lads as to how they imagined music stardom and they've also all cited it as an important conceptual influence upon AHDN in the Beatles Anthology.
In any case, AHDN lacks all the features of an actual mockumentary, or a traditional documentary as they had been made until then, such as a narrator or verbal narration, many long (often hand-held) takes, interviews led by the film's director or crew who are asking questions, and camera angles/photography that would be considered sub-standard for traditional fiction work, all of which are the basic features of mockumentaries at least since Monty Python's Flying Circus (1969-74), Lenny (1974), and All You Need Is Cash (1978). Indeed, if you define a "mockumentary" as any film with somebody portraying a fictionalized version of themselves as a main character or a stage/screen persona under their IRL name, as is obviously being done to refer to AHDN as such, you could even argue that the first "mockumentaries" were made by Charlie Chaplin.
Overall, this is an issue that concerns our articles music video and mockumentary, both claiming that AHDN would be pretty much the "first mockumentary" or would be the "first fiction feature with documentary qualities". But I'm putting it here because this is the central talkpage for the film itself. --2003:71:4E6A:B425:68BE:24D3:6E60:5230 (talk) 18:03, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The question for Wikipedia is whether there are reliable sources calling it a "mockumentary" or not.  I don't think DVD covers and other marketing materials qualify. I notice that the article Mockumentary is pretty poorly sourced and has no sourcing for many of the supposed examples of a mockumentary, including A Hard Day's Night. I think you could justify removing that example from that article until someone comes up with sources. My personal opinion is that AHDN does not "feel" like a mockumentary, but that's not the standard for our articles.  Neutron (talk) 20:14, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
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message: I'm puzzled by the statement that Hard Day's Night inspired spy films. Doesn't seem to have much espionage in it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dynzmoar (talk • contribs) 14:22, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Just Wiki being Wiki. 2600:4040:5D38:1600:7C60:F852:F943:7353 (talk) 12:41, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spy films 

message: Presumably the 'small reference to cocaine' is when Lennon sniffs a bottle of Coca-Cola on the train? Stub Mandrel (talk) 23:08, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cocaine Reference