Talk:Hubert Harrison

message: This whole page feels like a promotion by a relative or somebody else with a vested interest. Uucp (talk) 02:35, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: POV and promotionalism?

message: Any thoughts on further condensation? I've added a linkfarm tag to the external links, as there seem be some just countersinking what has already been stated. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 15:09, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Liposuction

message: I've added the  tag, as the referencing needs improvement. Apart from diffuse reference to A Hubert Harrison Reader, much of the article fails to identify the source of statements. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 16:46, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation

message: The bibliography in which every line purportedly links looks strange. Many of those purported links are broken (American Atheists) and I would get rid of that stuff, for starters.
The thing is a little overly long and could REALLY use a 1 or 2 line summary of who the man was at the VERY top. Very few people clicking the link are going to wade through that entire article... Even if one were to summarize that he was a "radical black nationalist thinker and writer" who lived from A to B and did C, that would be fine.
I think the "conflict of interest" tag is HIGHLY overblown.
Good book, by the way, Dr. Perry.
--tim
Carrite (talk) 03:02, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Links Busted

message: I agree the lead needs to be shortened, particularly (no more than 3 paragraphs) and probably entire article can use more editing to make it more concise. List of life events should be on separate page or better worked into narrative.--Parkwells (talk) 17:55, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead needs to be shortened

message: One questionable account from the 1920s, which contained a number of inaccuracies, suggested that Harrison's father owned a substantial estate. Harrison's biographer, however, found no such landholding and writes that "there is no indication that Adolphus, a laborer his entire life, ever owned, or even rented, land.Winston James, Holding Aloft the Banner of Ethiopia: Caribbean Radicalism in Early Twentieth-century America, New York: Verso, 1998, p. 123; Jeffrey B. Perry, Hubert Harrison: The Voice of Harlem Radicalism, 1883-1918, New York: Columbia University Press, 2008, p. 41
Pardon? This citation - p41 - is just a general discussion of social/employment conditions in the West Indies of the period. It says nothing about Adolphus Harrison. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 04:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, thanks, got it: the two citations in one ref, and the link to the wrong page were confusing. I've altered the Winston James to point to the page 123 it cites. That bit about the account being "questionable" etc comes across as countersinking; it's sufficient to say that his biographer has found otherwise. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 14:46, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation check

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message: I have started today to translate this thing here into German and I tend to agree with a lot of the harsh criticism voiced above on this page. So far a lot of poorly written stuff, very poorly lifted from well written Stalinist gibberish (it seems online available on "Black Perspectives") by his biographer Jeffrey B. Perry; (will have to learn a bit about Harrison first, before going on). John Hope Franklin (a left-wing historian) does not mention Hubert Harrison at all in his "From Slavery to Freedom"; this seems to be unjust; but, I think it is a bit silly to pretend that Harrison was a more brilliant mind (and more important black leader?) than Booker T. Washington or even W. E. B. DuBois, as Perry sometimes seeems to do.--Ralfdetlef (talk) 21:50, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  German translation 

message: The politics has taken over. The man is lost. Objectivity, fairness, humanity not there. I understand; we're creating a hagiography here.47.232.145.208 (talk) 17:16, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reads like a political tract