Talk:Guitar amplifier

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Distortion#Proposed_Article_Titles_and_Changes
The refactoring is in-progress. MichaelSHoffman 03:39, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal: Break out Guitar-dedicated articles 

message: In the Most Common Forms section it states:
 "With the advent of microprocessors and digital signal processing in the late 1990s, "modelling" amps were developed that can simulate a variety of vintage amplifiers' vacuum tube sounds without the use of vacuum tubes. As of 2005, these modelling amps account for a minority of amp sales" 
Is there a source for the sales data? I worked in a 20 store chain in New England for 4 years, and Line 6 was one of the best selling lines. During the 2004-2005 X-mas season we coudn't keep the little 15-30watt jobs in stock. maxcap 16:15, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Modelling amps:most common forms section

message: The list of amp manufacturers ought to be moved to another page. Where? MichaelSHoffman 21:28, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved list of amp makers

message: We shouldn't expect citations in this article, only references or a reading list, because citations aren't typically seen in writing on rock and roll. Marpeck (talk) 20:16, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's incorrect. This is not typical rock writing, it's an encyclopedia. Dementia13 (talk) 19:32, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

text: Moreover, guitar amplifier are not only used for rock and roll. 24.85.131.247 (talk) 01:22, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand that, do you maybe have a first choice go-to book that you use? I'm not calling you out on it, and I don't think it needs to be done with any urgency. Just something to keep in mind. maxcap 22:11, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: A recent edit in Tube amp section (4 Sept 12.201.87.113)highlights a need for a short additional section on tube/silicon hybrids (Marshall valvestate etc).
I'm not up to starting it but will be happy to contribute. 210.246.25.233 09:05, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  hybrid amps 

message: The section describing how a valve amp works tends to be biased in favour of them. There is little detail on Solid state amps, and they are compared "off the back" of valve amps.
:That's possibly because it is a section on how valve amps work ;-) RichardJ Christie 08:52, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possibly Biased towards Valve amps. 

message: ""Hard core" tube amp fans may not be able to tell the difference, in a blind auditory test, but will most always choose to play a tube amp because of its analog sensitivity."
Analog sensitivity is a meaningless phrase, and is not used in electronics. It should be deleted, or the sentence edited to say something like "Although they can't actually hear the difference, tube amp fans still prefer tube amps." (Well yes, that's why they're called tube amp fans. Duh!)
"When a tube fails, it is replaceable. While solid state devices are also replaceable, it's usually a much more involved process..."
But transistors don't fail! In a properly designed amplifier which doesn't overstress the devices, the lifetime of semiconductors is virtually unlimited. Tubes, on the other hand, have a very short life. The only reason they're easy to change is because they need to be changed on a regular basis!
As usual with discussions of guitar electronics, this article is not objective but is full of half-truths, unsubstantiated statements and personal opinions. Please try harder.
--84.9.75.142 14:34, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was about to mention these two things as well. --Aslkvbiwbegv 16:49, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It may be possible to discern a tube amp from an SS clone.  But amateur blind testing is not as rigorous as DB-ABX.  Subjectivism vs objectivism is beyond the scope of the article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 172.132.137.91 (talk) 07:23, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Analog Sensitivity; Device Failure 

message: As someone who's never edited Wikipedia before, would there be great offense caused if I replaced this entire page? I'm doing a research project, and part of the literature review is going to be the history of amps, the way that vacuum tubes work, an examination of the controversies of solid state vs tube etc., and possibly a discussion on tone, it's subjectivity and the psychoacoustic aspects of this. It's all going to be properly referenced and linked. It will probably be around 1500 words but might be up to 3000 or so.
I guess I'd post it my proposed article and we could discuss it? I don't want to offend anyone or anything, but I feel that it would be a lot more in depth (and properly referenced, for one thing) then what's currently up there. There would be a few things I'd add that are on this page now, too.
Comments?
:I have been around for a while and IMO someone who has never edited Wikipedia should not start by replacing a page. It is almost always best to improve on the work of others. I learn more by improving than by starting from scratch. ~KvnG 01:08, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Replace

message: I've added this article to the guitarist's Wiki project, which will hopefully get us more help on this article.  I also added a discussion page header here, hoping to remind people to sign their posts.  ;)  Enjoy!  --Dulcimerist 19:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wiki Project 

message: One thing new guitar player don't know is how far from your amp to stand to hear yourself properly, If you stand directly in from of your amp their is a "dead zone" of 3 or 4 feet. In that "zone" the tone and volume are not what they are at 4 or more feet. The new players i have jammed with are practically standing on top of there amp with the cabinet blasting at there knees and still can't hear themselves with any clarity, so they turn it up & up & up, meanwhile the other people in the band are only hearing that one person. Anyone else have thoughts on this subject?
Marco  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.54.177 (talk) 16:28, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amp Placement 

message: What are amps generally made of? I believe wood is standard, but what type. Do they all have that mesh front? What purpose does the mesh serve? How about that outer wrapper, is that vinyl or leather? Some general info for complete ignoramuses would be great. ---Ransom (--71.4.51.150 (talk) 19:25, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Materials 

message: 1) could i just use an amplifier head without speakers but go direct to a PA system
2) Could i go direct with a amplifier with 1 12" speaker into a PA, but the Amplifier doesn't have a Direct out,  how would, and could i do it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.247.51 (talk) 06:25, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  going  Direct  to  to PA  from  Just  an  amplifier  head 

message: When I touch the plug to my skin, instead of plugging it into the guitar, it makes odd noises. It didn't for my roommates, whom the amp belonged to. It made different sounds for various objects as well. Does this have anything to do with why I can't wear watches(body electricity screws them up) & can shine copper by holding it? What exactly is it picking up?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 156.34.185.213 (talk) 06:18, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  what's that noise? 

message: Jazz guitarists don't 'favor the "colder" sound of solid-state amplifiers'. They favour the cooler sound of solid-state amplifiers, Daddio!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.178.95.4 (talk) 16:29, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Jazz guitarists using arch-top semi-hollow guitars create tone in the guitar, so they don't need much coloring from the amp. In some Jazz styles, the treble is seriously rolled off, so the amp doesn't even make much difference. Jazz guitarists playing distorted styles (e.g. fusion) using solidbody guitars will still use tubes, at least in the preamp.192.139.122.42 (talk) 23:38, 29 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jazz Guitarists 

message: In this edit on 19 Mar 2014, Drmies removed this text
Zero-Hysteresis Transformerless tube amplification -- In 2009, Milbert introduced a tube guitar amplifier which eliminates the traditional audio output transformer (and all traditional power supply magnetics) by using Berning's patented ZOTL circuit to almost perfectly (and bi-directionally) mate power tubes (in any combinations) and speaker load, resulting in transfer characteristics being accurately and fully conveyed between tubes and speaker(s).
and asserted, "(Zero-Hysteresis Transformerless tube amplification: no verification, no suggestion that this esoteric brand needs special mention in the general article (only difference--transformerless))".
It should be pointed out that there are many advantages offered by the patented ZOTL Technology, including ultra light-weight (due to no audio output or bulky power supply magnetics); automatic standby capability; ability to use any common vacuum tubes in any combinations (and have them automatically biased); freedom from 60 Hz powerline hum; ability to automatically drive any practical output impedance(s) and also total-opens and dead-shorts even at full power without destruction (of non-existent traditional audio output transformer) due to high-voltage flyback, arcing and consequent insulation breakdown; and an unequaled purity of tube tone due to the complete elimination of all otherwise inescapable audible parasitics. TubeGod (talk) 15:53, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zero-Hysteresis Transformerless tube amplification 

message: Currently in the History section of this article is the following sentence: "In the 1950s, several guitarists experimented with distortion produced by deliberately overdriving their amplifiers, including Goree Carter,[1] Joe Hill Louis,[2][3] Ike Turner,[4] Willie Johnson,[5] Pat Hare,[6] Guitar Slim,[7] Chuck Berry,[8] Johnny Burnette,[5] and Link Wray.[9]"
I would recommend removing Johnny Burnette from this list. I am assuming he has been cited because of "Train Kept A-Rollin'", but there is some debate as to whether he actually played on that track or whether it was Grady Martin.----Design (talk) 08:05, 23 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Johnny Burnette? 

message: ANSWER: when it's a Bassman!!
There is significantly little discussion in this article as to what EXACTLY defines "a guitar amplifier." One of the most popular amps among guitar players in the 1960s was in fact Fender bass amps, specifically the Bassman — as shown in this article's second photo. In Don Rich: In the early days, Rich would play Owens' 1951 Fender Telecaster through a Fender Bassman amplifier. Steppenwolf was certainly another. Cobain used a Bassman at least once, on "Drain You." Skim through the list of Fender amplifier users: Mike Bloomfield, Mike Campbell, John Fogerty, Josh Homme, Brian Setzer.
Yet that photo caption is the ONLY use of "bass" in the entire article.
This is highly significant, as the Bassman was the literal template for later "classic" amps from Marshall and other companies. Weeb Dingle (talk) 18:51, 4 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  when is a guitar amp not a guitar amp? 

message: I just now noticed that there is not even attempt to explain how the "tone" section of a standard amp works — these knobs are barely mentioned at all, and mostly in the last few paragraphs. Yet section 6.3 is reserved for volume knobs. If this is significant, shouldn't it be somewhere near the top?
Why is it that there appears to be an underlying assumption that "guitar amp" implies tube/tube circuitry? (For example, Distortion, power, and volume: Power output.) Solid-state and hybrid amps don't exist at all in History. Weeb Dingle (talk) 08:39, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  bloat vs. truck-sized gaps 

message: Back in the mid to late 1980s, three NHS worker friends of mine rented the flat above the shop, the girls knew the history of the owner and told everyone. It was very impressive, the kitchen in particular was very modern looking with hidden lighting around the edge of the ceiling and under wall cabinets, common now but ahead of it's time then, presuming it was fitted out around 1980. Jim Marshall still owned the flat and the shop beneath was  IIRC a music shop, but I would guess rented out to someone else. Ianmurray5 (talk) 18:00, 5 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia at Hanwell