Talk:Golden number (time)

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This should not be merged with "metonic cycle." The term Golden Number is still commonly used in Anglicanism, and is printed in tables in the Book of Common Prayer, in reference to the computus of Easter, with no reference or correlation to the Metonic Cycle.
The Golden Number of any year is the same in both the Catholic and Anglican versions of the modern calendar. From a practical point of view, they are one and the same concept.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.24.76.3 (talk) 05:50, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The Article

message: An encyclopaedia should give the true definition.
The UK Act and Prayer Book (q.v.) have words corresponding to
  GN := (Y+1) mod 19 ; if GN=0 then GN := 19 ;
Of course, that and
  GN := Y mod 19 + 1 ;
are fully equivalent, and the latter should also appear since it is the better way to calculate it. It's not clear to me whether Clavius gave either of those; he has a tabular method good for A.D. 1 to 899999999. 82.163.24.100 (talk) 20:14, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In the above quotation, I believe 'fi' and 'divifione' would better be rendered as 'si' and 'divisione', as the 'f' character in each word will be a 'long s' in the original printing. Fergus Wilde (talk) 09:10, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Definition of Golden Number

message: I have deleted the claim of Hildegard of Bingen's knowledge of the Golden Number. Although the "aureus numerus" is indeed mentioned in her Ordo Virtutum it has nothing to do with calendars but rather refers to the completion of the ten heavenly choirs. AstroLynx (talk) 12:38, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hildegard of Bingen and the Golden Number 

message: They use the number for a 19 year cycle because... 
What is the point of this number? Ballchef (talk) 11:53, 19 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question; I think this edit provides its function and purpose. --SteveMcCluskey (talk) 01:46, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why? 

message: When possible, more sources need to be added for the date of Easter section. I am still not sure what the scope of the interdenominational discussion document is, what churches are involved and what the prospects are for this method being implemented.
===Suggestion===
I think unless another source comes out specifically talking about the use of golden numbers to calculate Easter or a final agreement, this information would be better added to Reform of the date of Easter. This website claimshttps://zenit.org/2022/11/16/patriarch-of-constantinople-conversations-are-underway-for-catholics-and-orthodox-to-celebrate-easter-on-the-same-date/ that they are trying to reach a final agreement by 2025 so presumably more information should come out soon regarding different methods  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Safes007 (talk • contribs) 13:29, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Introducing the discussion document on 3 November 2020 and commending the proposals the International Commission stated that it:
...blends the political realities of ecclesiastical and state politics, particularly in the Christian East, with the mathematical reasons why varying astronomical calculations cause such confusion on the dates for religious festivals...the celebration of Easter on different days and...the loss of the link with Passover is to be lamented..."
The Commission points out that it is the very opposite of a proposal for "Reform of the date of Easter."   The joint proposal by the Oecumenical Patriarch and the pope was floated in 2015.   Justin Welby told the British government to get ready to implement it in January 2016 and the Catholic Herald wrote:
When the Archbishop of Canterbury rationalises such a momentous decision by pointing to difficulties over school holidays one has to ask: what is the biggest influence here? Christian unity or relatively frivolous secular concerns?   If the latter is a motivation then such a move - to borrow the Holy Father's words - could also prove to be a scandal."
Yet the discussions reported in Zenit are presented as completely new.   Although they say astronomers will be consulted there is no explanation of why, after eight years, this has yet to happen.   The controversial claim that the date of Easter is not a religious matter but a scientific one is presented as fact.   The fact that reform of the date of Easter is not on the agenda of the Orthodox Church, and many Orthodox churches have severed relations with the Oecumenical Patriarch on this account  is nowhere mentioned. 79.79.43.32 (talk) 18:11, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Use of golden numbers for Easter

message: I think unless another source comes out specifically talking about the use of golden numbers to calculate Easter or a final agreement, this information would be better added to Reform of the date of Easter. This website claimshttps://zenit.org/2022/11/16/patriarch-of-constantinople-conversations-are-underway-for-catholics-and-orthodox-to-celebrate-easter-on-the-same-date/ that they are trying to reach a final agreement by 2025 so presumably more information should come out soon regarding different methods  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Safes007 (talk • contribs) 13:29, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Introducing the discussion document on 3 November 2020 and commending the proposals the International Commission stated that it:
...blends the political realities of ecclesiastical and state politics, particularly in the Christian East, with the mathematical reasons why varying astronomical calculations cause such confusion on the dates for religious festivals...the celebration of Easter on different days and...the loss of the link with Passover is to be lamented..."
The Commission points out that it is the very opposite of a proposal for "Reform of the date of Easter."   The joint proposal by the Oecumenical Patriarch and the pope was floated in 2015.   Justin Welby told the British government to get ready to implement it in January 2016 and the Catholic Herald wrote:
When the Archbishop of Canterbury rationalises such a momentous decision by pointing to difficulties over school holidays one has to ask: what is the biggest influence here? Christian unity or relatively frivolous secular concerns?   If the latter is a motivation then such a move - to borrow the Holy Father's words - could also prove to be a scandal."
Yet the discussions reported in Zenit are presented as completely new.   Although they say astronomers will be consulted there is no explanation of why, after eight years, this has yet to happen.   The controversial claim that the date of Easter is not a religious matter but a scientific one is presented as fact.   The fact that reform of the date of Easter is not on the agenda of the Orthodox Church, and many Orthodox churches have severed relations with the Oecumenical Patriarch on this account  is nowhere mentioned. 79.79.43.32 (talk) 18:11, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion

message: The claimed source is a document in the Cathedral Library at Norwich. An ISBN, call number, or other unique identifier would be helpful. Elizium23 (talk) 11:27, 29 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Modern day usage"