Talk:Offices in the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth

message: Lists are always more useful if they are preceded by an introductory paragraph giving the reader some context (dates, for a start). Lists are scarcely part of Wikipedia until the items in them have some linking. This is doubtless on the way. --Wetman 17:35, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)

message: I hereby give Wikipedia permission to use and reproduce all and any materials from my article '163xPolishTitles' .  --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus 19:21, 6 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Permission granted 

message: Is the Crown an Office of the Commonwealth? If not, why not? Septentrionalis 04:13, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, I guess that's kind of a technical question. Kings were elected, as were few official (members of the Crown Tribunal. Maybe we can say that the King was the highest official, we need to define offical first. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 22:12, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The King of Poland was the chief executive of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.  He was also, as Grand Duke of Lithuania, the ex officio sovereign of the Grand Duchy of Lithuania.  There was no other king within the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth.  Therefore, any historical niceties aside, it is much less misleading to consider him the King of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth than merely the King of Poland (just as the writ of Britain's Prince of Wales, such as it is, is not in fact limited to Wales).  Should one object that the Polish-Lithuanian King was not actually called that, then for that matter neither was the "Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth" actually called that.  logologist|Talk 23:23, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Kings

message: Is the original Polish in fact "regent," or perhaps something like "rejent"?
Suggest giving the original Polish terms, at the first mentions of PLC officers.  logologist|Talk 19:40, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was rejens (source: Bielewicz). I agree with this suggestion.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 16:55, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Chancellery "regent"

message: There are too many lists, not enough pictures or references. joturner 16:23, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Failed Good Article

message: Shouldn't he be translated as Deputy Treasurer, if podkanclerz(y) is translated as Deputy Chancellor? There was no full Skarbnik (Treasuer) in PLC to add to the confusion, but the adjective Grand (wielki) was sometimes added to this, making it a rather funny if again confusing combinatio of 'podskarbi wielki' (Grand Lesser Treasurer, or Grand Deputy Treasuer.)--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 16:56, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Podskarbi]]

message: Just wondering if there is a convention that 'pod' should be in titles translated as deputy instead of lesser? Not that I mind either way, but it would be good to have a naming convention for consistency.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 17:01, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Deputy vs. Lesser

message: I cannot find a reference that the following were indeed senatorial offices:
# Marszałek Izby poselkiej — Marshal of the Chamber of Deputies
# Generał wielkopolski — General of Greater Poland
# Marszałek Trybunału Koronnego — Marshal of the Crown Tribunal
# Marszałek Trybunału Litewskiego — Marshal of the Lithuanian Tribunal
--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 17:06, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Strange senators

message: I've completed a preliminary revision of this article, inserting some intralinear questions regarding officials' titles and functions.  I was able to locate or guess most English equivalents.  In some places, where I didn't have a clue, I left the questionable clause or phrase unchanged, rather than guess wildly.  A thorough review of the article, as it now stands, would be in order, to ensure accuracy.  logologist|Talk 11:33, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think everything up to 'District offices' is correct, although some copyediting - like ensuring that both Polish and English names are used on the first instance, making sure all names have Polish versions for verifications and such may still be needed. For District offices, I think there is some confusion especially regarding different starosta types. I'll read up on that and try to expand and clarify the starosta in PLC issue, time permiting.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 23:21, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The section on "District offices," meaning urzędy w prowincyjach (18th-century spelling), refers to gród and miasto (it would be well, at the outset, to explicitly use these Polish words).  Are we speaking here of two distinct types of communities — perhaps, "castle" and "town"?  Or are these essentially synonyms in the period under discussion (the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth)?logologist|Talk 00:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Something to research. Perhaps Gord (Slavic settlement) can prove useful to us?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 01:15, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Another potential terminological pitfall to watch out for (though I think, in general, it's clarified by context):  in English, "court" may mean either dwór or sąd.  logologist|Talk 00:10, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Revision

message: I am pretty sure that the below posts are not senatorial offices, so I am moving them here till we figure out where to add them:--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 17:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Not senators

message: At my sandbox I have prepared lists of voivodes, castellans and other officials. I have not moved it to mainspace yet, because I am still thinking about organisation of the article. Eventually I'd like to easily find on Wiki lists of offices and office holders divided by time (chronologically) and place (geographically), not only hierachicaly (as the current article has it). But adding my current lists to this article would increase its size making it rather ugly. I will be creating stubs soon, but renaming and moving is likely: any advice appreciated.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 17:37, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Voivodes of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth - done.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 03:52, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: List of specific offices

message: Why is koniuszy translated as Equerry instead of Master of the Horse?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 03:52, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Koniuszy translation 

message: The text reads:"Rotmistrz — Commander of an infantry or cavalry regiment".
Rota, however was not a regiment, but a company, and Rotmistrz was only exceptionally assigned the duties of a regiment commander.
--Jidu Boite (talk) 13:57, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rotmistrz 

message: I would like to point out that the official language of the Republic until 1795 was Latin. Therefore all the offices listed have Latin names, which were regularly used in official documents, but are missing in this article. -159.205.240.233 (talk) 21:47, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin 

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