Talk:Alma, New Mexico

message: ::As requested, I will go ahead and place the edit I would like to see in the article.Snowcat.ntas (talk) 23:26, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You removed legitimate citations and cited information from reliable sources. I added new citations and fixed the references you added to include retrieval dates. We are close to a consensus. • Freechildtalk 00:42, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Snowcat, again, please don't assume that these edits are "falsehoods" intended to mislead. This is the first time you've brought your specific problem to the talk page and we are now close to an agreement. Anyhow, I agree that the source doesn't connect the bus stop to the school, so have removed that. I too am not convinced that the source is reliable, so have requested attention from some editors at Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#Big_bad_wolves. Finally, remember to sign in when you edit, it gets confusing otherwise! Bigger digger (talk) 01:43, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that I added a new source, the local newspaper, which identified the children standing by the school bus stop. I am not attached to this particular subject; however, I am concerned about the principle at work here. Bigger, thanks for bringing this to the broader community for their review. Also, please note that I also inserted another statement about the environmentalists to give the section a little more "balance". • Freechildtalk 02:17, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Freechild, I have removed the Senate submission, the guy wasn't a rancher, he represented paper mills, and was probably reporting what is in the newspaper anyway. He certainly wasn't present for the sightings. This is supported by the comments at the reliable sources noticeboard. I have altered the info from the newspaper, the concentration in the article on the proximity to children is not reflected in the general discussion in the source. Bigger digger (talk) 15:04, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Bigger, I disagree with removing the content from the article, as the conversation directly talks about that one source, and not removing any content. However, I am willing to get out of the way of that specific issue in order for us to come to consensus on this article. • Freechildtalk 16:27, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like it's only us discussing this now! I thought the newspaper source was more general in its discussion of wolf activities in Alma and wanted to reflect that. Adding just the info about the bus stop sighting seems a bit sensationalist and fails to reflect the whole article, whilst using much more detail from the source would be WP:UNDUE, IMHO. Is that reasonable? Bigger digger (talk) 23:53, 17 November 2010 (UTC)

text: I have removed the source 'http://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/nm/catron/cemeteries/alma.txt' because it is a dead link.  It has been put back again.  There is nothing there.Snowcat.ntas (talk) 22:25, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not in the version present at the time of writing, but also, per WP:DEADLINK, we don't immediately remove deadlinks as they may have further use. Bigger digger (talk) 23:53, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I replaced it with several other links. • Freechildtalk 01:35, 18 November 2010 (UTC)

text: "The issue remains controversial, with environmentalists, ranchers, law enforcement, and others involved".  Can you please show me from the source which, if any, law enforcement finds this controversial?  Otherwise, that needs to be dropped.Snowcat.ntas (talk) 18:38, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I intended the sentence to read differently. Please see the corrected revision. • Freechildtalk 19:45, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Removing POV tag.  At least it has some balance now.Snowcat.ntas (talk) 03:39, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Arbitrary break

message: I removed language in the article describing the memorial to Victorio as being to his murders.  The text of the memorial actually said This monument celebrates the 100th Anniversary of the great Apache chief Victorio's raid on the Cooney minimg camp near Mogollon, New Mexico, on April 28, 1880.  Victorio strove to protect theres mountains from mining and other destructive activities of the white race.  the present Gila Wilderness is partly a fruit of his efforts.  Erected by The New Mexico Patriotic Heritage Society. (See citation in footnote.) I have not yet been able to confirm that the memorial was removed by the U.S. Forest Service as "vandalism". --Bejnar (talk) 16:25, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Alma Massacre

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