Talk:Wapping dispute

message: I know nothing about the Wapping dispute. When I read the article I couldn't understand why it claimed that the dispute was significant for British labour relations. The problem is that the articles has:-
- no explanation why the union needed an agreement covering the transfer to Wapping
- no explanation why the Wapping plant was built clandestinely
- no explanation whether / why News International were going to switch to a new printing process resulting in redundancies.
In summary, the article seems to describe a stoush between management and workers because management built a new plant. The article should explain more clearly why this was seen as sinister. 219.89.69.102 (talk) 20:56, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article is confusing 

message: I wrote the original text for his piece, and agree that some of the subsequent changes are not wholly accurate, although not wholly inaccurate either. The piece seems to hold together pretty well, though, and I've been loathe to add much more detail for fear of making an informative piece rather flabby. I have written elsewhere in more detail about the dispute and there is a nice piece in John Pilger's "Hidden Agenda", now listed as an online resource, although the definitive works on the Dispute are Suellen Littleton's "Wapping Dispute" and Linda Melvern's "End of the Street". There's other stuff around but it is mostly derivative or narrow in scope, and the Wapping Dispute does feature in literature in the writings of Tim Lott and Bill Bryson, and possibly others. Does anyone feel we need more detail on the piece here? Nicoatridge (talk) 09:47, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wapping Dispute origins 

message: He's actually chairman and chief exec - not precisely proprietor. There are shareholders... --Cunningham 11:13, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prop: R Murdoch 

message: This article appears to be heavily based on the page at http://www.oatridge.co.uk/wapping.shtml , which is marked © Nic Oatridge 2003. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.30.241.45 (talk) 18:30, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible copyright violation 

message: The idea that most UK newspapers are right wing is rubbish. Most UK newspapers are reactionary, perhaps, but can hardly be described as right wing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.250.228 (talk) 17:13, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Personal opinion really doesn't have a place on Wikipedia. Zchris87v 00:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Right wing 

message: This article really doesn't mention the location. Since I don't know much about the geography of where it took place, I don't feel I'm quite qualified to add in this information. Granted that unless you're reading something about Wapping, you won't have much interest in this article, but I stumbled upon it and if it weren't for the fact that I'd only once heard of Wapping before, I'd have no idea. For example, the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989 mentions the location of Tianamen Square and the city, but as Beijing is well enough known, it doesn't need a country location (hopefully you can figure out where London is, in this instance). Zchris87v 00:56, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing information 

message: After my late mother's passing, we found out that she with a small staff team at the behest of Murdoch were charged with building a prototype London paper utilising part of the Sunday Times building at first then another place over in East London but not Wapping itself, that would use computer networked systems for written and submission work and would have been used the new printing technology that ended up in Wapping.   She was chosen as prior she was the editor of the Times/Sunday Times Royal Wedding Supplement and was well respected in the Times news room that is until Murdoch man David Blake took over and started pruning the Times and Sunday Times from what he called union nutters which boded ill for my mother who was mother of chapel for both NUJ and SOGAT.   
Prior to the Gray's Inn Rd riots and protests, all those who would move to Wapping were given the "nod" by Murdoch's team and all those who expressed support of or were involved with a union were dropped which of course included father and mothers of chapel for the three print unions.   I remember the phone calls between my mother and Murdoch's hatchet man Tudor Hopkins as she remonstrated about the last months salary owing and redundancy and his words were cold and hard in response basically saying she was going to get nothing for her years long hard work.
This was done as a project under the unions radar so to speak, as such would have antagonised all three print unions and hence why the subterfuge used as setting up a new paper similar to the Evening Standard that would not have been unionised.
She was considered much a "doer" in the newspaper business having also worked with Shah's Today and assisting her former colleague Robert Fisk in developing what became the Independent newspaper as her and Robert were desk buddies in Philip Howards office at the Times.
It may well have been Murdoch's intention to have brought out a London wide newspaper with the Evening News long gone and the Standard the only real London newspaper left, there certainly was a niche in the market for another London paper, the fact that it all played out as it did like a very well planned operation putting so many people out of work without their last months pay or any redundancy and little support from Thatcher who quite enjoyed seeing the union folks given a hard time.   Many people had lost their livelihood and with a glut of printers, writers etc many were forced out of the business altogether.
Just a little snapshot of how it may well have come to pass, my late mother remained in the print for some years more but went on to become a film and television screen and scriptwriter.   She never quite forgave herself over it all and indeed was working on a screenplay all about it when she passed on, sadly never to be finished.
92.11.135.180 (talk) 13:23, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pre-Wapping