Talk:Rasgulla

message: To reflect reality cited in links embedded in page itself,
I propose that the name of this page be changed to either "Rosogolla" or "Roshogolla", since the desert was created, in Bengal, is it popularly called Rosogolla. In reality. Not by some "stretch of the imagination" by propagandists.
The inventor of the sweet Nabin Chandra Das used the name "Rosogolla" (রসগোল্লা). He popularized this sweet as well. Source: https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bengali/movies/news/Calcutta-celebrates-Madly-Mishti/articleshow/4902875.cms 
Rasgulla, Rasbihari, etc. are the names of this sweet in Hindustani (Hindi-Urdu) language. This is a misnomer of the sweet. 
Scholarly literatures name this sweet as Rosogolla. Example: Technology for the Manufacture of Diabetic Rosogolla by R. S. Chavan,P. S. Prajapati,S. R. Chavan &A. Jana (https://doi.org/10.1080/10408398.2011.614362) and A Study to Standardize the Manufacturing Techniques of Buffalo Milk Rosogolla and to Evaluate the Physico-Chemical Changes during Its Manufacturing and Storage
Sur, Asitava.   Bidhan Chandra Krishi Viswavidyalaya University (India) ProQuest Dissertations Publishing,  1995. 27759893. (https://www.proquest.com/docview/2332129924?pq-origsite=wos&accountid=33465&sourcetype=Dissertations%20&%20Theses)
The Geogaphical Indication tag identifies this sweet as "Rosogolla". Source: https://www.telegraphindia.com/my-kolkata/lifestyle/products-from-west-bengal-that-have-a-geographical-indication-gi-tag/cid/1850920
171.79.91.125 (talk) [S. Basu , Kolkata, India] 14:50, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:COMMONNAME. utcursch | talk 15:09, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page name change 

message: I have Requested the page move on 14 August 2015 Rasgulla → Rosogolla and prior to that and to this move request I have also given verifiable reasons in support of my submission said including others, the entire edit history of this page and other relevant pages created by this editor reflect/support in favour of above statements and now this editor hopes those declining administrators concerned now probably understand how prejudiced they were rejecting this editor's all relevant edits improperly, for the reason the GI Authorities now rule Rosogolla originated in West Bengal rejecting Odisha claim over its origin. Refer Rosogolla originated in West Bengal, rule GI authorities, rejecting Odisha claim   
[| The page move requested on 14 August 2015] indicates the following, but prejudicial rejected. 
Rasgulla → Rosogolla – Editor Snthakur has requested that this page be moved to Rosogolla stating, 'Rosogolla is the formal, original, familiar and most common name of this dessert.' 
Regards
 
Snthakur ( সৌমেন্দ্র নাথ ঠাকুর ) (talk) 12:55, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't matter where rasgulla/rosogolla originated. What matters is what its common name is. See WP:COMMONNAME.--regentspark (comment) 12:58, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

text: who are the "authoritative administrators relevant"? And yes, we have our own guidelines and rules. And no, you are wrong about the GI which is only for "Banglar Rasogolla", see below. Doug Weller talk 14:44, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also, the GI Registry office has clarified that it has not settled the debate on the sweet's origin, or rejected Odisha's claim as reported by some media outlets. Odisha is free to apply for a GI tag for its own variation. See "Sweet War: This GI tag is for Banglar Rosogolla, it is not about the origin". utcursch | talk 15:00, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Rosogolla originated in West Bengal, rule GI authorities, finally rejecting Odisha's claim on its origin." 

message: Application Number
533
Geographical Indications
Banglar Rasogolla
Status
Registered
Applicant Name
West Bengal State Food Processing and Horticulture Development corporation Limited
Applicant Address
2nd floor Mayukh Bhavan, DF Block Sector-I,Salt Lake, Kolkata 700 0091 Facilitated by Patent Information Centre, Government of West Bengal, Kolkata, West Bengal, India, 700091
Date of Filing
18/09/2015
Class
30
Goods
Food Stuffs
Geographical Area
West Bengal
Priority Country
India
Journal Number
99
Availability Date
14/07/2017
Certificate Number
303
Certificate Date
14/11/2017
Registration Valid Upto
17/09/2025
Doug Weller talk 14:40, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  GI decision is more specific - it is only for "Banglar Rasogolla" as originally requested and mentioned in the lead. 

message: :Template:Culture of West Bengal
:Category:Geographical Indications in West Bengal বাক্যবাগীশ (talk) 07:28, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Seeing that this edit request is part and parcel of a larger move by a single editor to place the same template across a wide range of pages, is something which does not inspire confidence in approving this edit request. I may be paranoid, but looking at the talk page here and the back and forth over the name of a dessert, makes me believe I may not be. My guess is, if this template is going to be added, it will only come after a long, long, discussion.  .spintendo⋅⋅) 12:53, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

text: Not sure what geographical indications means. Pinging  for input.--regentspark (comment) 18:04, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  As the article says, "the GI Registry clarified that the tag was only for "Banglar Rasogolla", and should not be seen as a decision on the sweet's origin" - in other words, it was for a variant. Doug Weller talk 18:37, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks . I guess that means that the we shouldn't add West Bengal as a geographical indication for this product. Sorry বাক্যবাগীশ.--regentspark (comment) 23:29, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

text: GI certificate is nothing but the proved report of any thing, like any industrial thing. GI of Rasagolla proved that the origin of Rasagolla is in West Bengal. And lastly, the Category Category: Geographical Indications in West Bengal is made in wikipedia to listed the GI registred article of West Bengal. So, plese, it is my earnest request. Plese add the Category.বাক্যবাগীশ (talk) 22:00, 14 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: No, because it doesn't say that. Why do you maintain it does? It says a variant is. Doug Weller talk 05:11, 15 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 May 2018 

message: This is a pov fork, note the statement about Rasgulla not being as popular as the Banglar variety Doug Weller talk 13:28, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm inclined to think that once an item has received Geographical indication status, then it would deserve its own article. Wording in the article is a different issue. Hzh (talk) 14:44, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Banglar Rasogolla]] 

message: In places like Bangladesh and West Bengal it is called 'Rasogolla' and In North India it is called Rasgulla. Please rename the article name User:Mahtab132
: Not done: page move requests should be made at Wikipedia:Requested moves. DannyS712 (talk) 18:30, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 May 2019 

message: Rasgulla is not a natively used word in the Indian states of Odisha or West Bengal. The primary name should be changed to Rosogolla. We shouldn't corrupt the information. Arnab.dc (talk) 05:19, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see WP:COMMONNAME. This is not Bengali or Odia Wikipedia. In English, the most common name of the dish is Rasgulla. utcursch | talk 15:04, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 7 August 2019 

message: Please change Baghbazar to Shobhabazar 183.82.22.236 (talk) 07:32, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 14:13, 20 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 20 October 2019 

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message: Hello, in “region or state” in the infobox, there is spacing and grammar issues. It is currently “Odisha,West Bengal, and Bangladesh” - there is too much space between Odisha and West Bengal, and a comma is missing, and there is an extra space after West Bengal and the comma. Please fix. It should be: Odisha,West Bengal, and Bangladesh 2600:1001:B023:6E9D:75C0:6518:67B3:7B1F (talk) 05:13, 6 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: can you help? 2600:1001:B004:370B:16:DFD8:A274:18D3 (talk) 12:18, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  . Thanks. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 12:25, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spacing and grammar error 

message: As this dish can be found also in pakistan as a popular dessert called "rasgulla", would it be logical to add it to the alternative name list in this article? Bhangsta (talk) 05:16, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it will not be right to add it to the alternative list because Rasgulla is known by this name in many countries like India, Pakistan is a separate place. Mahtab132 (talk) 05:11, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add to alternative names 

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message: The dubious statement in the article reads
'According to food historians K. T. Achaya and Chitra Banerji, there are no references to cheese (including chhena) in India before the 17th century. The milk-based sweets were mainly made up of khoa, before the Portuguese influence led to introduction of cheese-based sweets. Therefore, the possibility of a cheese-based dish being offered at Jagannath Temple in the 12th century is highly unlikely.[32]'
The specific text from the cited work has not been mentioned but K.T Achaya himself in his book, Indian Food: A Historical Companion mentions a cheese/chhenna based dessert very similar to bengali sweets preparation in manasollasa written by 12th century south Indian chalukiyan king someshwara.
For the making of what is today called chhana, Manasollasa, the 12th century Sanskrit text recommends the addition of a sour substance (even sour curds from a previous operation) to boiled milk, after which the precipitate was separated, the cheese then mixed with rice flour and shaped into various balls, and then deep-fried to make sweets. Zombie gunner (talk) 17:25, 23 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  A highly dubious/fabricated statement being associated with K.T Achaya 

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message: 1.Rich in Antioxidants: Saffron, a prized spice, has potent antioxidant properties.  These antioxidants help fight free radicals in the body, reduce oxidative stress, and promote overall health.Mahtab132 (talk) 05:32, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rasgulla benefits