Talk:Kodak

message: Kodak had quite a big range of photocopiers as well as some very funky laser printers (that used this really smart LED array).   IBM did an OEM and sold them as 3827, 3828 and 3829.    I added a main section on the photocopiers, but more details would be great....AVandewerdt (talk) 03:31, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  kodak Photocopiers and LED printers 

message: Kadak or someone who licenced the brand is selling cheap led tvs in India under the Kodak brand name in high volume. There is no information about it on this wiki page. Reference: Go to amazon.in or flipkart.com and look for Kodak TVs. 103.238.104.243 (talk) 20:45, 4 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kodak branded led TVs in India 

message: Does anyone have recent information on the relationship between Kodak and KKR? The most recent articles I could find were about the resignation of KKR-appointed members of Kodak's board in 2011. I don't see any information in news archives on what happened during and after the bankruptcy proceedings. Rocfan275 (talk) 21:43, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kohlberg Kravis Roberts 

message: Right now, the lede of this article is about 440 words.  Of that, about 120 words are devoted to the 100 or more years where Kodak was the dominant photographic products company and an everyday household name in American life, and about 320 words are used to detail all the troubles Kodak has had in the 25 years or so since those days ended.  This ratio seems almost exactly backwards to me.  The most important thing for the lede to convey is what Kodak once was, not what it is now.  The lede as it stands now does not do that.   Wasted Time R (talk) 23:58, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Also , the past 25 years have been spent making a adtaggering and uninterrupted series of bad decisions. Not sure how to find sources that discuss that. SPECIFICO talk 00:23, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Kodak's decline in the 2000s has been used as a case study in business textbooks and journals. I have used one, Contemporary Strategy Analysis by Robert Grant, as a source in the article. Others exist which I don't have access to. Rocfan275 (talk) 00:33, 24 January 2023 (UTC)

text: I have modified the lede to better summarize Kodak's history. Rocfan275 (talk) 03:52, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weight of coverage in lede seems quite backward 

message: The operations section is very incomplete and does not provide information which is particularly useful to the reader. A list of Kodak's subsidiaries as of 2020 can be found in this SEC filing; I have looked into these companies and all of them appear to be international divisions of Kodak, shells of defunct subsidiaries, or otherwise unnoteworthy. I believe there are two options which make sense for this section:
# Have this section cover former operations and subsidiaries. Kodak had many facilities around the world which have been written about in secondary sources and some have their own Wikipedia articles already.
# Delete the section and incorporate the material on Kodak Research Laboratories into the History section.
Rocfan275 (talk) 01:08, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I have updated the operation section and listed some current subsidiaries for which there is secondary coverage. Rocfan275 (talk) 13:30, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Operations 

message: There is no mention here of the Kodak Komstar Microfilm/Microfiche system, and the later Optistar system, which was a document storage system based on the Komstar system, but stored the information on large, glass laserdiscs. The system contributed to the bankruptcy and downfall of Kodak, as they invested heavily into the project, but most companies were not buying the system. The Optistar system sold during the mid-to-late 1990's, and was meant for legal and financial document storage. It could format to any form type, and had a complete software package based on the Komstar indexing system that allowed also for retrieval and print by marked values on the page. Kodak stopped support and production on the Optistar system sometime around 2005, and all service was outsourced. The media also became hard to obtain, as Kodak had retained the rights to the Optistar disk design, so no third-party producers of the medium ever developed. 
I worked with both systems back in the 1990's, and although the retrieval time on the Optistar was much faster than searching microfiche, any time that a disk had to be exchanged for one in the current storage in order to retrieve an older file, there had to be an operator present to remove and replace the laser disk manually, as there was a limited storage on the device, and there was no auto-loading feature outside of the actual device cabinet. The Kodak website only makes brief mention of these, but Optistar was a bit ahead of its time, although it could have been designed to be a bit better, especially when it came to the footprint of the device itself. The Optistar was smaller than a full microfiche printer and duplicator, but not by much. The storage cabinets only stored up to 50 disks, which were all in their own aluminum cases, and the disks could not be loaded into the Optistar without the aluminum casing. Some flaws in the cases caused the media to get scratched during storage and retrieval, and even removing the disk in the case from the Optistar system had to be done gingerly, or the disks would crack or even shatter. 2001:1998:3500:4A:0:0:0:544 (talk) 21:19, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Komstar and Optistar Systems