Talk:Curtis (50 Cent album)/Archive 1

message: Is it called Curtis or Curtis SSK? 
*ThaIceman73 Talk | Contribs 02:20, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the title was Before I Self Destruct, but then he decided to keep that title for his last studio album on Interscope Records, and change this album's name to Curtis. His last studio album will be called Before I Self Destruct, and he will also have a greatest hits album, which will be his last album on Interscope Records, since his contract runs out because he has a 5-album contract. Although, there are rumours that he might not retire. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 13:54, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Curtis or Curtis SSK

message: i thought a track with the same title by 50 & kardinall leaked awhile abck —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Papi34 (talk • contribs) 23:12, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Officer Down" - with Kardinal Offishall"

message: Why do people keep deleting information in the article?  There was a cd cover that was most likely the real one and two confirmed tracks with sources now gone, why?
Unless the album cover is confirmed, there's no reason to keep it. The same goes for possible track listings as well as information in general.--NPswimdude500 (Talk|Contribs) 00:39, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion

message: *thats fake, kanye west and 50 have beef
*is the kanye track (confirmed) a kanye production or a kanye feature? - NJ Rock
:Nothing in this article is confirmed--NPswimdude500 22:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ummm... well, I don't really know what his comments were, can you give me a link to some website that has the comments that he said in that interview? After I read it then I will add it to the article. --- Efil4tselaer 02:23, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Kanye West track

message: http://www.hiphopgalaxy.com/50-Cent-next-album-Before-I-Self-Destruct-hip-hop-4524.html
http://musicnews.virgin.net/Virgin/Lifestyle/Music/virginMusicNewsDetail/0,13556,1737813_music,00.html
http://www.chocolatemagazine.co.uk/news.php?article=631
http://www.allhiphop.com/hiphopnews/?ID=6465
The above is a group of links to assist in writing this article.
For anyone who wishes to contribute to the article, please be professional. There is no news of any confirmed tracks so until then, ********** is rumors and expectations.
In case anyone was wondering why I deleted the discussion page and replaced it with links, it's because it was turning into a forum war between 50 cent fans and 50 cent haters. That is not what wikipedia is about. Please carry on with additions to the album in a professional manner. Wuthai 02:30, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Links For Sources

message: *Are you sure this is tyhe real deal, I won't delete it because I don't delete/medle with things. It kinda does look like the real deal though. Where'd you find it?--NJ Rock 15:27, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The image should be deleted, its obviously fake, that 50 cent picture is from the "Get Rich or Die Tryin" movie media images for desktop images. LightSpeed 02:02, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What happened to the artwork, was it fake?
*Someone keeps posting a dubious album cover that seems to be photoshopped from a XXL article here. Whoever made the cover actually did a pretty good job but this isn't the place for posting it, unless it can be confirmed. Spellcast 23:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Image / Album Cover

message: The album name has been confirmed to be just Curtis. The Jay-Z, Young Buck,Mary J Blige, and Swizz Beatz track names from what Ive read have not been confirmed.
Pujols4mvp 01:50, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Album Name/ Tracks

message: He's beefin with Dipset everybody knows that.And in those cited links dont say he's there.
Hurricaneshady 10:08, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you explain what you mean?  I'm afraid I couldn't make any of it out (except "everybody knows that", which is clearly false...). --Mel Etitis  (Talk) 17:37, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I couldn't find either Juelz Santana or Dipset in the article; is there another pseudonym I should be looking for? --Mel Etitis  (Talk) 09:38, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Juelz Santana?

message: also 50 took some shots at Jay in the new song, so clearly that song Welcome to New York, if it even exhists, has a very rare chance of featuring Jay-Z OR Juelz (who is explained why not above) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Breakout (talk • contribs) 06:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Jay-Z...

message: Don't 50 and NaS have beef? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 58.108.88.23 (talk) 12:01, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NaS...

message: Ive took the time to sort this page out. I would appreciate it if only confirmed facts was put on this page. Also try not to change the format of the page. Thanx 14:57 4 February 2007
:I'm not sure why the references section was deleted, but please be aware that such references are required to substantiate information on Wikipedia - please see WP:RS and WP:Cite.  The policy against excessive external linking is not intended to apply to such situations - without these links in the references section, most of the information on this page would need to be removed or tagged with .--Phil500 (Talk / Contribs) 00:10, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reformation

message: I hope no one minds but I cleaned up the talk page a bit. It was kind of hard to follow things--NPswimdude500 22:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you clean up the first paragraph a bit? It doesn't flow. I don't understand if he is releasing two albums or one or just renaming it or whatever. Not to mention all the "possible" names SSK could stand for. We should wait for a vertified title or not use on at all. Ayumi4u 08:03, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed it a bit, is it better now? --- Efil4tselaer 13:51, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is much better! Thank you. Ayumi4u 07:03, 15 April 2007 (UTC)

text: All right. --- Efil4tselaer 15:53, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean-up (February 2007)

message: I don't mean to be rude but... STOP FUCKING PUTTING FUNERAL MUSIC ON THE ALBUM, ITS NOT GOING TO BE ON IT, IT ON G-UNIT RADIO 24! 65.10.114.122 21:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it was rude, and vulgar. Consequently, I put a strike through the F-bomb.--NPswimdude500 22:01, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're only insulting people's intelligence if you try to strike that out, I mean come on, people can tell what it says, just leave it like that, doesn't make it any less offensive. --- Efil4tselaer 22:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Funeral Music

message: Stop removing the references and categories! It is vandalism!--NPswimdude500 05:15, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.5029/title.hhdx-news-bits-lil-jon-sets-record-ron-artest-50-cent-album-news
i dont think we should change name until we get the ACTUAL name for the LP
nvm... name it Untitled/Unnamed 50 Cent Project/Album
50 said that it's going to be called 'Curtis'  lol
We now have the Name of the LP its called "STRAIGHT TO THE BANK" source is gunitworld.com
i don't know how 2 add a source, so if sb could do that it would be appreceated.
(Mistah James 10:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That isn't an official site; it seems to be a fan site. I'm redirecting this page to Untitled 50 Cent Album for the meantime. Over the last few weeks, there's been 3 name changes; Before I Self Destruct, then Untitled 50 Cent, and now Curtis. So I moved the page to "Untitled 50 Cent" for now until the name can be properly verified. No information is better than possibly misleading information. Spellcast 10:45, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name of the album might be changed

message: the last paragraph is false, no one releases instrumentals for no reason. its some no-name wanna be producer from myspace who has a 9-5 job getting paid 15k a year who thinks he is a musician spamming his shitty beats. LightSpeed1 21:38, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed it. Efil4tselaer 22:38, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Remove the last paragraph

message: that has nothing to do with this album, its called curtis, he has said the name of this album multiple times in interviews that it is Curtis, not curtis s.s.k  LightSpeed1 03:23, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: remove anything that says S.S.K

message: The IP address 24.228.65.219 has added some confirmed tracks,but they arent cited so should it be removed?Hurricaneshady 05:42, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Confirmed Tracks

message: Please don't remove anything ive posted today, which is the entire article, ********** has a legitimate source. --Breakout 00:24, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean-Up

message: Is the album called "CURTIS" or "Curtis" because on the iTunes US store its called "CURTIS".--Peterm1991 15:20, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The name is cee, you, are, tee, eye, ess.  Whether those letters are capitalised or not isn't part of the name, but a typographical matter.  It might, for example, be in all-caps on the front of the album cover but not on the back, on a Web page but not in printed matyerial, etc. --Mel Etitis  (Talk) 17:27, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Album name - "Curtis" or "CURTIS"

message: I worked REAL hard on that table... who took it off, its in featured articles... check Reasonable Doubt or Illmatic —Preceding unsigned comment added by NJ Rock (talk • contribs) 00:21, 13 May 2007
#Please sign your comments.
#Neither of those is a featured article.
#They both violate guidelines set out in the MoS and the WikiProject; one of them included copyvio images. --Mel Etitis  (Talk) 10:04, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Table

message: This cant be the real tracklisting..where are the tracks produced by timberland featuring justin timberlake called AYO Technology and also akon confirmed he has worked with 50cent and recoreded a song for the curtis album calledset it off.
It has been recorded, but just because it is done with big names, dosnt mean it will be on the final track list. 50 either didnt think it was right or good enough to be on the final track list or he may save it for his "before i self destruct" album. An artist creates around 20-100 records but then must cut it down to the best tracks and ones that fit into the alvums context. And AYO technology may have been one of the tracks cut.  Plus the track listing is provided by iTunes & they are never wrong because they have copies before hand. Ramos2907 14:56, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing Tracks

message: This can't be a track, smile was a single of gunit album
It can be a track, just because it may possess the same title it dosnt mean it is the same song. " Same Title, Diffrent Content" Ramos2907 14:53, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Smile

message: someone has changed the album cover with a weird cover which is pic of a woman looking like 50 cent's face... ??? wtf! Football 7 16:09, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it was June 26. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 13:50, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cover

message: Someone cleared it completely, but I brought it back using someone else's edit, if there are nessecary changes can someone handle it? Jayblivion 21:13, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah it is just vandalism, it happens a lot. I'll try to revert it from now on since I added this article to my watchlist. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 22:05, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What the hell, someone deleted the page

message: I heard that jeezy will be on the album but he is not on the track list for the album also that 3 more tracks would be added. 
*http://www.defsounds.com/editorials/view/1726-5-snatches-jeezy-rhianna-snatches-umbrella-wendy-williams-styles-on-melyssa-ford.html--Prisonbreak12345 14:45, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The track listing has been confirmed by Interscope Records. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 14:58, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Young Jeezy plus 3 more tracks?

message: I have re-listed the 50 Cent confirmed tracks along with making a table for the two RELEASED singles. Please do not edit or change until more tracks and/or track listings are OFFICIALLY (not rumored) confirmed. Please note I have not listed "Fully Loaded Clip" as it was not mentioned in the 106 & Park appearance and the album was pushed back. With the album being delayed and the track coming out so early, it will most likely be cut and once again has not been confirmed only recognized.
--egeiz  (Talk) June 15, 2007
well done on your good work Trimy67
:Great job. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 16:13, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: By the way, I removed the Interscope track listing as it is not correct (see our above discussion), and only kept the 50 Cent-confirmed tracks. Also formatted. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 21:16, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Track listing & updates

message: Question, should it be mentioned in the article that the four singles will be released before the release of his album (confirmed on an interview with Westwood). Also, we're not sure if there are going to be any singles releases post-album release. Just wondering if we should make note of that. Like to hear your thoughts on that, mainly Efil, Trimy, and Egeiz seeing as they are the most interested in helping this page. - NJ Rock 20:26, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Westwood interview is mentioned in the article --->
*"While on Tim Westwood's show on BBC Radio 1, 50 Cent confirmed that four singles with videos will be released before the album's release date. 50 Cent named the following: "Straight to the Bank", "Amusement Park", "Come & Go", and "Follow My Lead". He also stated that "Straight to the Bank" is the only track that talks about money."
I think that is your question, if not then you will have to explain it better because I am a little bit confused, to be honest. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 20:39, 15 June 2007 (UTC)

text: No problem, as to your second part, I really don't think we should make a note of anything other than what we know (that those four songs will be released as singles). --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 20:45, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Singles

message: I have re-added the track "Fire" (featuring Young Buck & Nicole Scherzinger) to the confirmed track listing and cited the source. I have also added two paragraphs of explanations for the "AYO Technology" title and that it is also confirmed.
--egeiz  (Talk) June 16, 2007 (3:57 AM EST)
:Just so you know, I removed the explanation for "Fire", unless it is a single or something (and even then, it should not belong here, instead, in its own article), we should not have so much explained for it. Instead, I just added the source to the "Confirmed tracks" section. Also, I re-wrote the "AYO Technology" section, and also formatted singles, songs can't ever be italicized, I believe I either saw it in the Manual of Style, or some other WikiProject related to music. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 13:36, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: By the way, can you find that video somewhere else? I want to see it but I do not live in the United States and it gives me some crap about copyrights and all that. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 13:54, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree, it does look better, but nonetheless, those are the rules, if those formatting rules would not exist they would make my life a lot easier. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 22:06, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Is this good? --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 22:50, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great, glad I could help. By the way, please do not over link, that is usually frowned upon, and it might get some administrator that only care about formatting (I care about it too, but not always) and might want to remove the "" tags that make the track listing not look sloppy. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 02:30, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

text: No it is OK, I actually added the smal tags, although they are allowed I think, some administrators do not want them used, but they do make the article look better. Right now, I guess it's just me, you, and Egeiz doing our own thing really with this article, we are the only ones that are interested in improving it really. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 03:20, 17 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Agreed. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 12:49, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "AYO Technology" & "Fire" confirmed along with explanations

message: What do you guys think about the title of this song? Even though 50 Cent has confirmed it as "I'll Still Kill" you think it is possible he made a mistake as in the chorus it clearly states, "Oooooooh, don't even look at me wrong when I come through the hood -- Ain't nothing changed still holla at my homies -- Oooooooh and when I hit the block I still will kill -- And I don't want, but I will if I got to kill." Obviously is it possible he is not naming it exactly after the chorus and using a general name but was just curious as to your opinions. I'm outtie, long Friday night with the girl. Get at me though, one love.
--egeiz  (Talk) June 16, 2007 (4:09 AM EST)
:Probably using a general name for it. Anyway, if he referred to the song as "I'll Still Kill", then that is how we must refer to it also. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 13:53, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "I'll Still Kill" or "Still Will Kill"

message: I know he hasn't confirmed it, but he has talked about it and hasn't denied it being on the album so should we put "Fully Loaded Clip" under a "tentative tracks" heading? Leave that to you. - NJ Rock
:Honestly, I would say no, just put the ones that were confirmed like the ones we have now. Maybe he will confirm it tomorrow, maybe not, but remember, Wikipedia is not a crystal ball, so just leave it the way it is until we have a source. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 15:38, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, so if he actually does confirm it in another interview, feel free to add it. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 22:06, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with you, don't add yet, but it could be true. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 00:59, 21 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Right, but I don't remember any vandalism from you on this article... Oh well, keep up the good work. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 16:25, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fully Loaded Clip

message: Right Here it says that there's a track called "Movin' On Up" produced by Jake One that was also in the  iTunes and Interscope tracklist. I know 50 didn't confirm, just wondering if we should do anything about it. Thanks - NJ Rock
:Looks like we have another track to watch for, after "Fully Loaded Clip". Just as in "Fully Loaded Clip"'s case, wait until 50 Cent himself confirms. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 18:07, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, and now that I am finished with my exams, I will have more time to try and improve articles, and in this article's case, add more information about it. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 18:28, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Movin' On Up

message: i have seen the real tracklisting before it was released, i even have heard the album, you guys are losttt, im putting up the real tracklisting. ya got a problem. leave!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ibm44 (talk • contribs) 
:OK, first of all, you are a vandal, you tried vandalizing user my page, you vandalized other user pages, you vandalized articles, you will be blocked soon, so maybe instead of criticizing us, stop acting like a moron. Second, you are obviously bullshitting as it is only June and the album will be released in September, so there is no real track listing. Final, you can add track listings all you want, but they will be reverted unless you have a source that states it was confirmed by 50 Cent himself. So don't come here and start bossing everyone around because you think you know some track listing. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 00:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, you can't do whatever you want, right now, if I want to I could probably report your behaviour and you will at least get a warning. I suggest you stopped making statements like "I'll do whatever I want", and also stop vandalizing Wikipedia, because if you don't you will be blocked soon. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 01:54, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: untitled

message: The tracklisting on interscope along with the current album art posted on interscope with the tracklisting was incorrect. The tracklisitng was copied from the itunes tracklisitng whihc was confimred by 50cent to be fake. I was reading this information this morning but i am still trying ot find the soruce for it. Also i was looking at some old 50 cent albums before he hit mainstream and alot of the tracks on the interscope tracklisitng were on older albums before get rich or die trying. Trimy67
:Yeah, I agree, but the Interscope track listing stopped being an issue about a week ago, but still, thank you for pointing the part with tracks from older albums being on the fake track listing, I actually did not notice that. --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 01:00, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, all right then. Keep up the good work.  --- Efil4tselaer: Resurrected 01:34, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: interscope tracklisting

message: An official video for "Follow My Lead," featuring Robin Thicke, was also filmed several weeks ago, but has since been shelved. Reps for Interscope explained that 50's next official single will be a record formerly called "Ayo Technology" that features Justin Timberlake and Timbaland. The record is now called "She Want It" and a video will be in production shortly.
Source: http://www.rapbasement.com/content/view/3018/35/
--egeiz  (Talk) June 29, 2007 (7:56 AM EST)
:Thank you for that link. Much appreciated. --- Realest4Life 13:15, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So, the third single will be "She Want It", and we don't know yet about the other singles and their release dates right? "Follow My Lead" will be released later (?), and "Come & Go" does not have a release date either. Or will "Follow My Lead" still be released July 1st? --- Realest4Life 14:39, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Obviously, but you can tell that he really doesn't give a shit about the music anymore now that he works with pop singers like Timberlake. Too commercial now. His first album was above average, then his second album... I don't even wanna talk about it... Now Curtis... hmmm, with Justin Timberlake songs and Nicole Scherzinger songs, and other songs like "Amusement Park", I doubt it will be a good album. --- Realest4Life 22:02, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Fair enough, let's continue this discussion on our talk pages as this is for discussing on how to improve the article. --- Realest4Life 00:34, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "She Want It" confirmed as third single (formerly AYO Technology) 

message: Anyone hear his new song? I guess it's the next single from Curtis. You can hear it on his myspace. The track is produced by scott boogie. volumesoxxs 01:55, 30 June 2007
Yup, he shot a video for it too, I just thought straight to the bank was the only track about money though... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.162.213.123 (talk • contribs) 
:It's a remix so it is with "Straight to the Bank" but the track is straight fire...
:--egeiz  (Talk)
:It is not on the album. --- Realest4Life 18:29, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: I Get Money

message: I got it from the Youtube page. It also has the song for that "money" remix. It seems fairly legit to me, so I altered the page. Wuthai 19:07, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is fake, look at it, it has both "She Want It" and "AYO Technology". That's not an official G-Unit channel. --- Realest4Life 20:35, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Official Tracklist

message: Substituted at 20:22, 2 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment