Talk:Gray Davis

message: I don't believe that the Harvard School for Boys was ever a military acedemy.  Its own article (under its current name, Harvard-Westlake School says nothing about such a history.  Can anyone verify or falsify this claim?
*this link indicates the 2 were  merged in 1989.--Dakota 01:30, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Added background information and name of Gray Davis's paternal grandfather, William Rhodes Davis, a well reported (in 1940's) Nazi agent.
Information came from diary entry I personally researched and authored and published here http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/20/191832/300/898/554378  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ruidoso (talk • contribs) 14:02, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early Life 

message: Grey Davis was the most unpopular governor in California history,yet the article dose not go into any detail has to WHY he was so unpopular.My goal was to demostrate that it was his liberal "tax and spend" policies that so many Democrats adhere to that caused the people to rise up and kick him out of office. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Flyingbryan (talk • contribs) .
:Well, first I don't think you can claim he was the most unpopular, at least without citing a source for that. Second while it may be true that it was his "tax and spend" policies, you can't include this in the article without an accompanying citation. Otherwise its just your point of view. We strive hard to ensure that all Wikipedia articles maintain a neutral point of view. This is, of course, particularly difficult for contentious articles, which the ones on politicians tend to be. So its especially important to source specific viewpoints on people. Can you find a reliable source (i.e. a non-partisan one) that says it was Davies' "Liberal tax and spend policies" that caused the voters to recall Davies? If you can, then you can add the section to the article. Thanks, Gwernol 23:52, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Liberal" tax and spend policies 

message: This article has a somewhat hateful tone and presents non facts as such. It speaks in terms of unpopular and widespread, uses very critical commentary and in places un neccesary wording. This article has a political agenda and needs a good fact checking and citations.--Amadscientist 22:29, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tone of article is not nuetral 

message: The following line was removed: "Davis was suspended twice from the California Bar Association for failure to pay membership fees."  Such a claim must be sourced and it currently is not.  I searched lexius nexus and the internet through google and could not verify this fact so I removed it.  If someone can find a source, they should add it back to the article.  == calbear22 14:08 July 23, 2007.  (SPT)
"A year later he said, "Well, we'll wait a couple of years before we remove it." However, this never happened."  Following line concerning MTBE also isn't sourced and was removed == calbear22 July 28, 2007.
:Sourced: http://members.calbar.ca.gov/search/member_detail.aspx?x=43883 (It's actually the State Bar of California, not the California Bar Association). OCNative (talk) 04:53, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of unverifiable material

message: I have finished my work on this article.  Because I provided sources, dramatically improved the content, and made the article more viewpoint nuetral, I removed the problem tags.  During my last major revisions, I removed a little information from the Davis reelection section that just wasn't true, verifiable, or was overly simplified.  I've added over one hundred sources to this article to support the articles content although some of the sources were added as external links that should be converted to references.  Some of the information in this article was copied from the source http://www.biographybase.com/biography/Davis_Gray.htm.  When I fact checked some of the numbers from that source, it revealed that some of the numbers and arguements were false.  No information in this article is now supported only by this source.  This article can probably use some work from another editor, but I'm done for now. calbear22 14:15, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: calbear22 finishes major revisions

message: Just reading over this piece, it seems overly pro-Davis- I haven't read much else about the man, but in this article it seems as though his achievements are fully listed, from the big to the small, with the odd approving quote thrown in, whereas his failings (and there must have been a fair old few, right- he was recalled, after all), tend to be explained away by blaming outside factors or Enron. Honestly no axe to grind here, and the man may well have been a saint and the victim of horrible circumstances, but I definitely get the feeling that this might not be the full story.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.165.54 (talk) 20:55, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  A bit gushing? 

message: the assertion "The Bay Area was the only region in California to vote no on the recall" seems unlikely to me, even though it is supported by a citation (from sfgate, only days after the election). is this accurate? California gubernatorial recall election, 2003 isn't much help. Badmachine (talk) 23:17, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The [[San Francisco Bay Area|Bay Area]] was the only region in California to vote no on the recall 

message: There are three different kinds of schools. First, there is the Residents school.
Residents
The Residents school is a school for regular kids. There they learn their math, science, language arts, do their yoga and P.E. They are in no danger because they are a majority of the kids in school.
Gifted Magnet
The Gifted school is a school for kids who learn differently than others. They learn their lessons in a different way. Several people think that they have to have a certain IQ, but they are not smarter than the Resident school kids. These children just learn differently. Will finish later now need to finish homework. Peace out! Good-bye!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mia the Awesomy Awesome (talk • contribs) 00:31, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Schools 

message: When talking about the 2003 recall, its important to talk about the political context. The California energy crisis had just happened, largely started by Enron and other out of state energy companies, and Davis could not do much to save Californians from artificial power blackouts and paying $600 power bills. The key here is that Enron and other scammers were Republicans, and Californian Republicans managed to twist the story and put the fault for the energy crisis on Davis. =184.235.88.124 (talk) 01:02, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's and interesting take on it, but would need sourcing, and risks runing afoul, regardless of intent, of pushing POV. But be bold! Edit it up, and then bring your suggested edits for discussion!204.65.34.206 (talk) 19:27, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Enron, energy crisis, and the Republican connection 

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message: This article has been edited to remove various negative sentences, replaced with essentially all positive comments, shown in the edit history.  The question "a bit too gushing?" is relevant here as Davis was a controversial figure in California history (controversial enough to be recalled), yet the Wikipedia page as it stands today skews very positive.  I'd be interested to hear others' comments - I can look for factual/sourced material to add in order to make this article less of a gushing celebration of Gov. Davis' accomplishments to a more factual representation of his tenure which is more fitting with Wikipedia's goals.  However, I think interested parties should discuss.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Countryjudge (talk • contribs) 21:37, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  This needs review 

message: The lead section says, "In California, under Davis, standardized test scores increased for five straight years." How is this possible if he was governor for only 4 years, from 1999 to 2003? Maybe it's just rounding up, but it seems confusing to me. Or is it counting from the 1998 election? Hyuhanon (talk) 14:14, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline  

message: That part needs to be reorganized. It reads like having been taken from elsewhere and it is not properly cited. I am not familiar enough with Wiki's citing tools to fix it. Pomodecon (talk) 22:28, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Signing SB 400 into law