Talk:Achewood

message: Lyle does not look like a tiger. Where does Onstad say Lyle is a tiger?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.163.0.42 (talk) 14:36, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: tiger?

message: I don't know about the opening paragraph. I don't think the humour is really 'surreal'. 194.247.239.180 14:01, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Surreal"?

message: Should we add something about the Sunday Strips no longer being available on Serializer? I know he stopped updating it regularly, but I looked recently and found that even the archives were gone from Serializer. And the Achewood forum was deleted.
:Agreed JD79 04:11, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Sunday Strips

message: I love Achewood.  Bunches.  But no comic is perfect.  In the spirit of NPOV, would it make sense to link to anything that criticizes Achewood?  Anecdotally I know of people saying that the arcs are too long or you have to read from the beginning to understand things, etc.   JUST AN IDEA! JD79 03:48, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Linking to a criticism of an ideology is acceptable practice, but this is wikipedia. It is here to state objective facts, not review art. I believe criticisms would be unnecessary. Ipsenaut 04:32, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I suppose so, though some of the pages on Religion and Political Thought have links to specific criticisms.  However, I will concede the point that criticisms of things like Christianity, Nihilism, and Socialism are all widely-studied fields in and of themselves, whereas criticism of Achewood rests solely with people that just don't like fun. JD79 01:47, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I don't think that "criticisms of an online comic" are a notable subject for wikipedia.  Plus, Achewood is awesome. john k 04:14, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Confirming this. Ashibaka tock 04:53, 14 December 2005 (UTC)

text: claiming that all things need a criticisms sections when not all things are criticized in the same manner is POV. 71.60.151.41 23:36, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticisms of Achewood

message: Recent edits removed some of the  markup, calling it "bogus HTML". To see what those tags were for, try viewing the page while making the text size extremely small; you'll see that the floating pictures for Pat and Teodor now bump into the following sections in an ugly way. If you removed the tags in a section that has less text, like Lyle's, the problem would be apparent at a normal text size. Not "bogus", just a useful precaution when you have text wrapped around pictures - so please don't remove the rest of the tags. ←Hob 21:08, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Just use . — Omegatron 22:10, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Those tags are exactly what's in the  template. If you type  you'll get the same thing (and it's really not a great idea to use templates without "subst" for minor formatting like that, as it makes the server do extra work). Regardless, there's no reason to remove valid HTML without checking what it does first. ←Hob 22:57, 6 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Btw, I don't mean to sound too huffy - just a difference of opinion. But, see Wikipedia:Template substitution#Templates that should be subst'd; if you don't use subst for these, Bluebot may end up doing it for you. ←Hob 23:15, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I know all about that stuff. — Omegatron 23:59, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: those div tags

message: In one strip, Uncle Culpepper's name appears to be "Marion," but in another strip (when the real Culpepper shows up), the letter looks more like an "l." Can anyone with a hardcopy of the books or a reliable source clear this up?
: Sometimes the 'l's and 'i's look like each other.  Onstad says it's my screen resolution; I say it's his font anti-aliasing. — Omegatron 15:25, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Uncle Culpepper

message: "Chris Onstad has since admitted during an interview that achewater was never actually a psychedelic drink."
I took this out, since what authority does he have in the section?  The exact same section states that the drink actually IS psychedelic.
Jmlk17 03:47, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Um.  His authority is that he made it up.  It's an imaginary drink and an imaginary plant that he made up. — Omegatron 16:01, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  But where does he say that? WhisperToMe (talk) 04:38, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology

message: Changing the box in the upper-right from 2-5 to 3-5.  Yes, I know I'm nit-picking, but when has it only been two, unless maybe the first week he had his kid. JD79 13:10, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Updates

message: Roast Beef's biography in the article currently reads
One shooting lodged a bullet in his spine, which grants him permanent wireless Internet access (though this has never been mentioned since, and he still uses physical computers to access the net; one possible reason for this is that, according to the mouseover in the strip where this happened, his internet connection is only 9600 baud, which would considered extremely slow by anyone, especially the internet-savvy Roast Beef)
however, the actual alt-text for that comic states that Ray is 9600 baud. I'm not really sure how to phrase the necessary change within the article, so would just removing that bit work? --Redstormpopcorn 19:19, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Roast Beef's WiFi

message: OK, I made the change once and got the smarmy "thanks for testing out wikipedia, your changes have been reverted." template message, but I'm changing the article to reflect that Nice Pete and Roast Beef are, in the Achewood world, the authors of their respective books. EVEN THOUGH everyone knows that Onstad wrote them, they are purported to be written by the characters the same way the blogs are by the characters. -66.226.105.42 20:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Books

message: Where is it stated Vlad is Polish?
:Vlad's not a Polish name, I'll say that much - it'd be "Wlad" if it were polish.  Looks Russian to me. john k 10:17, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is never directly stated that Vlad is Polish, but in a comic that appears in the paid archive and also in the back of book 2 as a bonus comic, he mentions that "In Poland ...  the women are paying as much as 50 Zloty to sleep with man with basic Hotmail account."  Because of the paid archive thing, I can't link it, but it's the best we've got. Coldfrog 20:00, 12 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Early in Achewood history, Chris Onstad held an AOL Instant Messenger chat for fans of Achewood.  The conversation turned to talks of any animated Achewood.  Onstad said he had no definite plans, but said it was an amusing idea.  When one chatter proffered his voice for Vlad, Onstad declined, saying he enjoyed doing a cheesy Russian accent himself.  It's probably not worth the effort to debate much about the outlying characters. Rabbidpanda 17:33, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vlad/Polish?

message: Does anyone know to properly pronounce Achewood? I think this is important information to have in the article.
I read somewhere that Chris's official answer is that it's pronounced "Aik-wood" like "headache". I've always said "ash-wood". I don't want to email him with such an insipid question and I figure someone already has a reference for this.
It's definitely (head) ache-wood. Ash-wood makes no sense. Achewood is what you get if you drink Achewater. And it's sort of a pun on Oakwood.
Ahem; from the "about" link at the top of Achewood.com's main page:
"Achewood," like wormwood, was used by antebellum
slaves in the production of "achewater," a long-
since outmoded and outlawed Southern beverage.
Drinkers of achewater experienced hallucinations
and euphoria, but the after-effects of the liquor
produced a deep and lasting melancholy (hence its name).
Modern science has confirmed that achewood oil, the
active ingredient in achewater, is a powerful depressant
which causes irreversible neurological damage.
So in other words, it's pronounced like "aches and pains", and you don't get a painful hard-on from drinking it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.218.210.14 (talk) 06:54, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation of Achewood

message: Ray is no longer pleased by the female rump, because all chicks got one. Ray is pleased by big fat titties.--Natjo1986 08:00, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That he is...that he is. Jmlk17 09:57, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ray is a Tit man

message: The facts or descriptions in that part of the article are extremely date based. The setting the scene is true, and the description of the humor is well described. Despite Onstad never actually giving his own description of the type of humor or the first strip, those are verifiable and not personal opinion/research. If there are other issues? What are they? Please ammend this talk page with concerns. M.manary 19:55, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: likely a thinly-veiled Palo Alto, California is speculative and currently unsubstantiated.  The maps in the footnote make it look even more like original research.  That claim definitely needs a reference.  —johndburger 18:29, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: orginal research tag

message: Seriously, the opening paragraph that describes Achewood as "commonly surreal" is just plain false.  Over the last couple of years, there have been on a few story arcs that could be described as surreal. Achewood's humor more commonly relies on the absurd. I made a change to the opening paragraph. I hope it sticks. --Dogbreathcanada 20:09, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The currrent wording is fine for now, though such a description is best if attributed. --Dragonfiend 04:01, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is often pretty odd and surreal as well though :). Jmlk17 04:02, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But is it absurdy surreal or surreally absurd? Rather than us try to describe what type of humor we think it is, we should just document how Onstad and reputable critics describe it. I'll see if I can find the Comics Journal review referenced in the article, for example. --Dragonfiend 04:12, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lol, it's a bit of both sometimes!  Good idea on the source however. Jmlk17 04:50, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Absurd versus Surreal

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thread_title: B-Class Assesment required

message: Hi all! Just letting you know, that over the past week I have written several scripts to fix up Achewood's references to be proper references, with the name and date of each strip. If you have any queries, please feel free to contact me on my talk page. Foxy Loxy Pounce! 07:37, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fixing up the references

message: I've already contacted Miranda regarding her tagging of this article to be included in WikiProject Furry, but I'm opening another space to talk about it here. I can't really see how Achewood falls under that project. Anyone else questioning? — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 04:05, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It obviously doesn't, unless consensus has formed that any fictional depiction of anthropomorphic animals counts as furry fandom now (which is hasn't). Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 09:23, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, that was more or less Miranda's logic in it. I think I'm just going to remove the tag. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 14:38, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Furry?

message: I have boldly merged Chris Onstad into an Author section, since there is nothing reported about him in outside sources that isn't directly related to Achewood himself.  I figured it would be better for it to be a section in this article than a stand-alone stub-length article.  He doesn't fail notability guidelines, so we can always split it back into his own article again if the content expands later. —Akrabbimtalk 03:43, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Good call! Thanks, Starblueheather (talk) 04:37, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a bit related to Onstad's love of cooking and opinions about words, but beyond that, I am not sure we have enough to make a separate article on him. WhisperToMe (talk) 04:36, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge from Chris Onstad

message: Ray (currently calling himself 'Theo Freedom' after his near-death case of the DTs) curiously drops his hip-hop culture speech patterns when under the effects of sodium pentothal and adopts a slightly more educated tone, though his syntax can still be a little odd at times. This suggests that at least some of Ray's "hip-hop record mogul" behavior is an affectation. (The truth serum incident occurred at the Dude & Catastrophe and is covered in Cornelius' blog.) Atypicaloracle (talk) 12:37, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ray's speech 

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