Talk:Ceiling fan

message: There's nothing to back up scientifically any claims. People who claim they know what a ceiling fan is doing because of the Laws of Physics are really talking nonsense. 
What is really going on is probably more complicated than a simple schoolboys explaination that Hot air rises.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.172.215.127 (talk) 13:45, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You make a convincing argument, can we add this to the truth page? Formerlychucks (talk) 14:08, 1 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Ceiling fans are Hocus Pocus

message: There should be some more additional technical information about a Ceiling Fan, for Example:-
1. How the ceiling fan works?
2. What is the function of Armature and Capacitor in a Fan?
3. What is the difference between a capacitor fan and a non-capacior fan?
4. Why a capacitor is necessary for a capacitor type fan?
5. How a non-capacitor fan works without a capacitor?
Mujeeb Ahmed, Karachi-Pakistan.
*Seems to me that these items (excepting number 1) are more appropriate in the article on Electric Motor than here.  Number 1 should essentially be a link to Electric Motor.  -- Jon Wilson 24.162.120.52 06:07, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Technical Information

message: This talk page has been blanked since the article has been completely rewritten.
Piercetheorganist 12:13, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Page Blanking

message: Thank you for taking the time to edit the ceiling fan article.
Upon careful review, it is evident that all statements are properly sourced using The Fan Book ().
The tag you added has been removed. Thank you for your interest.
Piercetheorganist 01:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no rank in wikipedia.  This is collective editing; anyone can edit wikipedia.  Please read WP:REF especially the part about inline citations.  Since you are an expert in this you must be especially careful to use inline citations to guard against original research WP:OR.  Cleaning up language can include cleaning up style, which is a useful edit.  I cannot assume that there is only one source in this article because in order for an article to meet WP:NOTABILITY standards, an article should have multiple independent sources.  As people edit this article (it belongs to the collective wikipedia community who are free to edit it) there will be other sources added. Since wikipedia can be edit by anyone, in order for wikipedia to have credibility using the correct inline method of citing sources is essential.  People are free to look at any claim in an article and add  unless it already has inline citation. I certainly appreciate the contributions you have made to this article. Idioma 04:01, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I will be happy to add inline citations to the source, useless as it is. As far as other sources go, there aren't any. "The Fan Book" is the one and only book written solely about ceiling fans; and there are no other books in the Library of Congress database which even have a section on ceiling fan history, evolution, or anything like that. Unfortunately, it's kind of a specialized subject area. So, everything in this article came from The Fan Book, and is verified by common knowledge (or, more accurately, knowledge that's common in the ceiling fan community). Having said that, IF you or anyone else can find another source, PLEASE list it here. I've searched high and low, and even gone so far as to contact PR reps at Emerson, Hunter, and Casablanca, and there is apparently no further information available (other than companies' personal history, which is relevant to an article about that company but is not relevant to ceiling fans in general). Thanks Piercetheorganist 00:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm a bit confused by this statement "The capitalization, punctuation, spelling, grammar, and other mechanics is all technical detail which belongs as-written. And yes, it all comes from the wonderful cited source."  It seems to say that the grammar and spelling came directly from another source.  Please clarify. Idioma 04:17, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the grammar/mechanical structure came from an external source (the cited source). For example, you changed "The Diehl Electric Fan" to the Diehl electric fan. It is incorrect the way you've re-written it (so, once again, I reverted that change). Diehl was a brand; they made many electric fans; but that first model was named "The Diehl Electric Fan", capitalized in that way. This comes from the cited source. Since it is a proper model name, it must be formatted in the accurate way. Thanks. Piercetheorganist 00:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the clarification. Idioma 00:27, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Is the material in the Ceiling_fan#Safety_concerns_with_installation section sourced from the same book? MrVibrating (talk) 15:36, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations need tag

message: A section outlining the advantages and disadvantages of snugger fans would be appropriate. Idioma 00:54, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, good info. There are fans that appear to be different from ordinary fans that are huggers, such as the Concept II among others, it could use a subsection in the style section. Idioma 04:10, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're welcome. Minka Aire's "Concept II" model is no different from any ordinary hugger ceiling fan. Same motor, same blades, same mounting method. It deserves its own section no more than fans of different colors deserve their own section. Thanks. Piercetheorganist 00:02, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: FASCO also used "Snugger" as model name, so it's not just Emerson.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by The Channel of Random (talk • contribs) 03:15, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it does have the same type of motor, but from what I read, the blades are not flat, and it doesn't have a down tube.   I think that a good number of people who buy fans would define style as visual rather than technical.  While not all hugger fans are visually different they lack the down tube and some lack ceiling medallion.  I believe that they are both visually and slightly functionally different, even they use the same motors. Idioma 00:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Again: you're wrong, they are not functionally different. They employ hub-mounted rotating paddles to circulate air, and their motor (which is not unique to them) is already covered comprehensively in the article. The differences between different types of fans are defined by technical aspects, not style; that's a rock-solid fact, not up for debate. This article is written to educate the uneducated about ceiling fans and their history. It's not a comparison of aesthetic styles...and the only difference between a hugger fan and a non-hugger fan is the aesthetic styling. Any other differences (say, some special blade offered on a hugger) are not inherently unique to huggers--so would need to be mentioned in the appropriate place (in that example, the section on blades). Thanks. Piercetheorganist 01:38, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Haha I've been waiting for someone to fall into that trap :-). The plural of "basis" (BAY-sis) is "bases" (BAY-sees). So since we're talking about more than one basis for comparison, it's "bases for comparison" (as opposed to basisis lol). Thanks. Piercetheorganist 09:02, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hugger or Snugger fans

message: Is there some fantastic easy Wikipedia way to see whether a page about the same topics has been written in another language? Piercetheorganist 09:05, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Wikipedia doesn't know this, as the word for a ceiling fan would be different in another language. Unfortunately, you'd need to figure out the translation for "ceiling fan" in any language that you wanted to include a link to. To get you started: Esperanto - plafona ventumilo, Spanish - ventilador del techo. ChrisMP1 13:03, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw you added Esperanto. I added ventilador de techo (I typed "ventilador del techo" into Google, and the Spanish seem to go with the incorrect[?] grammar of using "de") as the Spanish link, and ventilateur de plafond (again, it should technically be "du", but the French go with "de") as the French link. I also created both those pages on the respective Wikipedias, and added the English-language link, so if anyone every writes those pages they'll automatically be linked in here. Piercetheorganist 14:09, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean to improve on the Esperanto article. Do you mind if I use translated text from this article? I don't know nearly as much as you do about this subject; I couldn't write much more than a stub, which is what I've done. ChrisMP1 14:14, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to! If there's anything I typed that's too much of a fan-world vernacular to translate, let me know, and I'll define it as best I can. Piercetheorganist 15:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Oh, okay, thanks! Piercetheorganist 15:04, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other languages 

message: I would like to have some mention of industrial ceiling fans on Wikipedia as industrial users have different needs and tolerances than the average home ceiling fan user.  Since I am a new contributor would it be best to add a section to this page or create a new page specific to industrial ceiling fans that is cross referenced here?
As a matter of full disclosure I do work for a company that designs and manufactures industrial ceiling fans.  I understand that the purpose of Wikipedia is not to promote specific businesses.  This will guide the information I would like to include about industrial ceiling fans.  The material included will be encyclopedic, will follow wiki-style and be fully sourced and cited to the best of my abilities.  
Can we sort out the best place to put this information before I add and edit only to have it pulled down?
Thanks,
Bigassfans (talk) 17:04, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I know your company (love it!). If you can provide a non-biased, sourced cross-section of industrial fan types, go for it. Having it all on this will be fine. The fan types section needs to be cleaned up a bit as well. There are some relevant guidelines to follow, and I don't know if these apply exactly, but you can look over Wikipedia:Autobiography, Wikipedia:Conflict of interest and Wikipedia:No original research as to what you can and cannot do with regard to incorporating your own information, etc. The important one in this case, I imagine, is Wikipedia:Conflict of interest. If you do not violate this, you will be fine. If your edits are in good faith (I am sure they will be), problems another user finds, if any, can be easily solved on this talk page or your user talk page. Charles 17:26, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey. I too know of your company; there were three of those enormous things installed at the newer of the two Super Wal-Marts in Winchester, VA (where I used to live). MAN those things move air, especially given the slow speed at which they turn! Anyhow, to answer your question -- there are no differences between regular (36"-56", 3/4-blade) "industrial" fans and regular (29"-60", 2to6-blade) "residential fans" as described in the article. The fact that the styling is different is irrelevant to method of operation, theory of operation, parts, performance, et cetera. If looking different earned its own section, we'd have to have a different section for every model at Home Depot! HOWEVER -- Big Ass Fans are not regular industrial fans. They very much should be written about here on Wikipedia. I do feel, however, that it should not be a part of this article -- (a) because this article is about "regular" fans, and (b) because this article is fairly lengthy already. I feel that a separate article, about LVHS (low-speed/high-velocity, for those who don't know) ceiling fans (or perhaps just LVHS fans in general?) should be written. While LVHS ceiling fans are related to regular ceiling fans, they are so different in terms of theory of operation and physical set-up that they should be given due treatment separately. There's nothing stopping you from writing such an article yourself -- however, be aware that you may be challenged on the finer points more than you would be if you were just Joe Schmoe. Also, be aware that everything you assert which is not common sense or common knowledge needs to be referenced (cited) from a published source -- i.e. something available to the general public, preferably (though this is certainly not required) online. So private internal company documents don't count. :-) Mr. P. S. Phillips (talk) 01:44, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Industrial ceiling fans 

message: could someone add a section on the recent changes in ceiling fans due to energy star regulations.  I have noticed more small base candellabra bulbs in use and someone at Lowe's told me there is a regulator on many fans that limits bulb output to 190 watts total (no matter how many bulbs are used). Is this true? I appologize if this is in the wrong place.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Outofnapkins (talk • contribs) 17:12, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  energy star changes 

message: The article says in summer to operate the fan counterclockwise to get a cooling downward breeze.  However the following EPA page contradicts this:  
  http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=ceiling_fans.pr_ceiling_fans_usage
"In the summer, use the ceiling fan in the clockwise direction. While standing directly under the ceiling fan you should feel a cool breeze."  
I've found other contradictory pages too.  Which of these is correct?   AcesDoubleSuited (talk) 05:35, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradictions about summer/winter direction

message: The term "resistor" in the section on controls is not right, as neither example given (iron core transformer, electronic control) is a resistor or resistive load. I'm not sure what term would work better -- perhaps just "power regulator" or "regulating element" if you don't want to get into technicalities of different control methods.
Mikeblyth (talk) 06:17, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terminology problem 

message: Is this picture really necessary? Its quality is poor, its value to the article is quite low, and it was posted by a user who has been suspended (User: Piercetheorganist). I just don't see how it adds anything to the article. A ceiling fan is a ceiling fan, even if it is a 'rare Panasonic' variety. Just my thoughts on the matter. Cheers all. 71.194.163.228 (talk) 23:14, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Three pictures of the same fan is silly (unless perhaps to better illustrate FANatomy), and I think as long as  Ceiling fan collecting, CeilingFANatic.com, and Ceiling FANcy (magazine) are red links, its rarity is'nt notable. Also, the built-in captions are ugly. I'm only barely feeling timid enough to not remove it myself. Fried Gold (talk) 21:22, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Necessity of "Panasonic fan collage" picture? 

message: I actually just had this happen.  The wobbling caused the downpipe to fail.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.220.0.108 (talk) 13:15, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure. It's crazy (maybe even evil) that this article would suggest that this isn't something that happens. I just saw that the Consumer Product Safety Commission ordered a recall of some ceiling fans for that very reason. Come on, of course wobbling is a problem! Any fool would know this. 72.40.152.209 (talk) 03:40, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wobbling leading to falling 

message: I just went ahead and deleted the following:
---Despite the fact that a "balancing kit" (bag of small, adhesive-backed metal or plastic chips) is included with all new ceiling fans, many wobbling issues are not the result of a blade being too light, and therefore cannot be fixed by this method. Hunter states that their new system, the Perfect Balance system, can "automatically adjust the blades with every rotation and eliminate wobble once and for all."---
Wikipedia is not a place for advertising.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.20.9.33 (talk) 02:26, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted Covert Advertisement in "Wobbling" Section 

message: I was wondering the spans of blades. I would like to know the tiniest ceiling fans and the largest ceiling fans. Also they have made some crazy fan styles (including fan blades containing OTHER fans ...and some fan blades are GIANT LEAVES!) I think that all of this should be included in the article. In-Correct (talk) 22:15, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size of Fans?! 

message: I was seeking verification about those metal industrial strength three blade (spinner?) ceiling fans that spin rapidly. That they MUST be installed in high ceilings where the blades are impossible to reach a person because they are just as bad as a giant exhaust fan or a HVAC fan. Touching the blades while spinning could cause terrible injury. In-Correct (talk) 22:15, 25 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Industrial Strength Ceiling Fans Safety 

message: we need more cieling fan pictures. can someone find some?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.206.74.42 (talk) 23:06, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  ceiling fan pictures 

message: We gotta change that, folks.
It says "poop" on the bottom left corner  Ariodant (talk) 21:59, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: snitch 31.61.237.106 (talk) 11:48, 21 February 2024 (UTC)

text: Was it edited in? If it wasn't, it might just be coincidence. And there's nothing wrong with that being in an image unless done on purpose. Kwizz (talk) 16:21, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

text: you've seen the meme haven't you 418cat (talk) 09:50, 25 February 2024 (UTC)

text: I came to the talk page to mention this. you got to it first. MonkeyEditsTM (talk) 00:38, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I might've been a little late though, now I look at the timestamp. MonkeyEditsTM (talk) 00:40, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  11th image