Talk:High School Musical/Archive 2

message: There have been a few views on when the science girls close the laptop twice - is it an error or not? I think it isn't, as it is a different purpose.
On an offhand note, does anyone agree with me with the whole Ashley Tisdale Tribute to Brenda Song on the Suite life of Zack and cody? You know, when she does the handclapping?
:It seemed like an error to me. But where have you seen "a few views" on the scene; can you link us to any such talk? - Matthew238 00:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Is it an error?

message: To me that really doesn't sound hidden. Lots of movies have a strange sence at the end like that. Bawolff 22:52, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: well what are you supposed to call that then?--Jak 21:50, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: an epilogue?--Martan 21:36, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This doesn't sound hidden 

message: *Somebody said that the HSM soundtrack was the highest selling soundtrack but I've also heard that it was The Cheetah Girls soundtrack. Can someone tell me more about this?
        High School Musical sold more than the Cheetah Girls
During the anneversary of HSM and during a 2006 new years countdown it's been stated that the HSM soundtrack was the TOP selling album in 2006.  So I guess it beats ALL.Michael Cook 15:19, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Highest Selling DCOM soundtrack?

message: It needs clean-up. Also, the trivia section is really messed up.
-leaves to edit-
|vent|rant|rave|bitch| 23:32, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here we go: Apostrophe#Basic_principles:_possessive_apostrophe Cowman109Talk 05:34, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  So many grammatical errors! 

message: Actually, looking at the article, while the storyline is greatly improved (far better than previous edit) it still needs shortening.
Also, the character section needs cleanup (This is listed as a comment in the page source)
Please note also, the notice about condensing the plot collides with the frame containing the movie information.
I removed a good bit from the plot section to help clean up, but it's still too long. I didn't get to the last 3-4 paragraphs though. I'll work on the characters though. Judxapp 02:59, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot 

message: Can someone confirm whether the fireworks would not have been allowed to fire due to snow (and cite a source, like a legislation or something) and whether the other (commented out) errors should just be removed?
I think that it is supposed to be romantic so ...let it be ---- hsmfan
according to the "pop-up edition" of the movie that scene was filmed during the day.  That wasn't snow, it was potato flakes, and those weren't real fireworks.Michael Cook 03:06, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Fireworks 

message: Well I've been doing some (merciless) editing to keep the article tidy, but I've been amassing comments in the source. Would anyone care to comment on them in this talk page, because anything that's commented I'm likely to remove soon. Things like the fireworks and the wristwatch really need to be confirmed as errors, the grammatical correction in the Chad Danforth section of the article and so forth need to be dealt with.
Thanks to anyone who will do this.
Rpgsimmaster 03:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article getting tidied 

message: In the minor characters section, is Zeke worth developing as a character (such as mentioning his crush on Sharpay) or is his character not significant enough to merit keeping?
Comments or ideas, please.
Rpgsimmaster 07:25, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zeke 

message: The article needs a lot of cleanup.  Sections are too large, unessisary, and not up to Wikipedia's standards.  Please don't remove the notice until the article has drasticly been improved. --lightdarkness (talk) 18:37, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: We have decided before that the multiple jerseys is not a problem. Someone edited this previously who was a basketball player, and commented that they too had multiple jerseys. It is probably not uncommon, and therefore probably not a continuity error in the film.
Before you add it again, please discuss why here.
Rpgsimmaster 06:22, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of Jerseys 

message: I changed the picture in the infobox because the picture that was in there was a false DVD cover. The new image is a promotional image for the movie. Jtervin 05:50, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Image

message: Fandom or fansites has no place in an encyclopedia article. They bring nothing to the article nor are helpful in any way. This is simple advertising and way to get around the provision in the External Links section.--Klaser 14:57, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fandom 

message: There are multiple articles on the cast. When I open an article, such as Troy Bolton, the article is only a stub with minor info about him. I say that we place redirects on all of the pages, and we just add the info we want on the main article.--Edtalk c E 17:37, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not those!! I meant pages like Troy Bolton and Gabriella Montez. They are just stubs, whose summaries are already placed in this article.--Edtalk c E 14:00, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast Pages 

message: I added a few images on the plot and characters section. I hope you like them. Adam 1412 21:26 19th January 2007
:I really don't think that any of the image are fair use since they were taken from a website without their permission.
:: I happen to think that's a great idea. But we should include any credit to the pictures! Calebaldwinjun9 03:11, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Images Added

message: Shouldn't we add a section mentioning the critical reaction and response the movie has garnered,both positive and negative?
I think that is a great Idea. Id work on it, but Im not sure
Yes, there should be a page about critical reaction becuase I know for a fact that everyone loved this 'musical'. The Quidam 05:01, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can get actual data that states that...otherwise...no. -Sukecchi 12:12, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  So in other words, I just have to get articles and such? That's easy. I can do that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by The Quidam (talk • contribs) 22:13, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They have to be credible soures. Meaning no fansites. -Sukecchi 22:22, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What about a new section?

message: I added headings to the plot so that we can organize the plot better, and clean it up one at a time. Feel free to change the names at any time.--Edtalk c E 17:44, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot Headings 

message: While the first part of this may be correct - "Breaking Free" arguably should only have a supporting piano, I disagree that "Bop to the top" having this accompaniement is an error. In the first set of auditions, Ryan states that the rehearsal pianist did an arrangement for them - it is not a stretch to believe that this would be the case in the callbacks as well. Further, the argument could be made that "Breaking Free" having additional accompaniement is not an error either, since it is clearly a song which is part of the movie as a musical overall - and thus to argue that the additional instruments is an error would be akin to arguing that about every single song in the movie (Status quo, etc.).
Thoughts?
--1of42 01:24, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Continuity Error? 

message: HSM won the "Best Comedy/Musical" category. Not much else to say but that.
:I think someone who is familiar with the Wikipedia should add a chart for the awards like the one for The Daily Show. It would greatly improve the quality of the awards section.--74.106.70.54 16:10, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teen Choice Awards 

message: A lot of these errors seem to only be nin-picking and not really errors. As far as I can see, the only one that's an error is the thing about Troy's shoes. I propose a clean up -Sukecchi 19:27, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't have an error section anymore. -Sukecchi 10:29, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Errors 

message: That kid who posted that poster of high school musical is fake.  he got it off of the free wallpaper downloads on the website and cut it. I would take it down and replace it back to the dvd version but I'm not sure if everyone feels that way. Thanks
Allenk893 12:24, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: High School Musical Poster

message: IMDB states that Zac Efron has a singing backup. Does this mean he can't sing?
No, he can sing, it's just that Troy's part was written for a tenor and not for a baritone. So they had to get someone else to sing the high notes that Zac Efron couldn't sing. Mirrorblade 10:25, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: IMDB

message: There is a theatre version of the show that will premiere in Atlanta - January 13 - 27, 2007.  
There will also be an Asian stage adaptation of High School Musical on February 2007 in Manila, Philippines. 
 DragonRoar 12:29, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theatre Verson 

message: I have removed the  tag from this article. There has been no discussion of POV issues on this talk page, and I personally don't see an NPOV problem in this article's current version. Is this about the unsourced, unencyclopedic "Criticism" section that's not in the article as of now? On the other hand, I know little about this subject, so there could be something I'm missing. Feel free to re-add the tag if you feel there are POV problems, and if you discuss them on this talk page. szyslak (t, c, e) 21:18, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV? 

message: I moved the following text from the main page, it will need some kind of citation to a verifiable source if anyone can actually provide one, the last part certainly sounds like original research to me
"Although not significant in the US, several people around the world complained of the behavior of the main male characters. Although not sexually misoriented, they presented several female behaviors, such as playing Basketball instead of Rugby or Football, or being interested in musicals instead of Rock bands. This complaints could have been avoided if more sexually secure male characters were included in the film, even if they were antagonists, like a football team that mocks the basketball team, or replacing basketball for rugby as the main sport in the film." --Amxitsa 16:06, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This passage is pure original research. Since when was basketball a "female" sport? Boys who play basketball are sexually "insecure"? And why does it even matter whether what the men do is stereotypically "male" or "female"? The text should not be re-added under any circumstances. szyslak (t, c, e) 08:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What the? Needless to say, this should not be re-added under any circumstances. Rebecca 10:03, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticisms

message: I can't find the error, so... you have to think about it! On left column, in the "other languages" box, Portuguese and Thai (Tiong Viet?) are repeated twice. Correct, please! 213.45.193.92 08:09, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Errors 

message: From the article..........
When doing takes of the 'interupted' kiss between Troy and Gabriella, Chad (Corbin Bleu) accidently on purpose missed his cue so Zac Efron and Vanessa Hudgens ended up kissing.
(citations is/are needed, if there are videos, link them, these videos must be from an official Disney Channel website, not from Google Videos or YouTube)
Please respond on my talk page.
- Emir214 13:47, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: Occasionally a drive-by anon user will add dispute tags to this article without giving any more than general complaints, if even that. Could whoever disputes this article's neutrality, original research status, etc. please point to specific passages and terms they dispute? I see no more than general statements like "it favors the movie too much". Statements like that amount to little more than "I don't like this article", or possibly "I don't like the movie, and I want the article to reflect that". Please be more specific. szyslak (t, c, e) 02:41, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV tags 

message: That section seems to be getting a bit large...and I got to thinking...is it really necessicary? I really don't see a need to list every single time the movie premiered in a different country...it doesn't offer anything encyclopedia-worthy...anyone else have anything to say about it? -Sukecchi 19:30, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, certain release dates, not every single release date for every region. It's not important. -Sukecchi 00:16, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Release Dates

message: I only took out a few things becuase I found them ruining the grammar of the article. For instance, in Troy Bolton's bio, someone put 'Troy Bolton (Zac Efron, who is sooooo hot)' and I didn't find that very relative to the rest of the bio.
::The "sooooo hot" part was, as I have been saying when I remove it, fandalism: fan vandalism. So of course t wasn't relevant XD -Sukecchi 19:17, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor Edits

message: It is mentioned that the clock messes up at 7:58, and the score is 8-8, and states that the game is split into 4 8-minute quarters.  But don't these things change from area to area, because in my school the game is split into two 20-minute halves, where such a score display would be somewhat appropriate.
68.150.86.20 04:08, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't matter what happens at your school. This is not your school, it is a movie. To compare something like a movie to reality is pointless. Just like the "Sports and Drama" on the top of this page. -Sukecchi 13:05, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error: Basketball score 

message: I think the Goofs section should probably be removed. It is just a very short version of what is available on IMDb. If we are going to add some from the IMDb list, I suggest it be goofs regarding Factual errors or Errors in geography, not the all to common, and less interesting, Continuity errors. - Matthew238 04:59, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: By goofs do you mean errors? If you mean the Errors section I'm all for it, I'm getting tired of removing the same things over and over again. >_< -Sukecchi 12:55, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it is now titled Continuity Errors. For the IMDb page that it is mostly taken from, see Goofs for High School Musical. "Errors" is also mentioned above by someone. My point is, if we are going to copy parts from IMDb, then the ones they list as Factual errors or Errors in geography seem more interesting, if we use any at all. - Matthew238 00:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Goofs

message: After the pop up version is shown,should we put a trivia section for the facts that will appear in the Pop up version ?
: I think we should do that since it has already aired twice this past year. I had recorded one viewing so I think I should put some up. Calebaldwinjun9 03:19, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: Before the Wildcats' score goes up to 68, the score is 66-67. When they score, it goes up to 68-67. So where did the extra point come from? Littleghostboo[ boo! ] 06:24, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Score 

message: Who keeps reverting my contribution on the Trivia? Please give me a reason why you should delete it when it contains true information? --AOL Alex 18:30, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reversion: East High 

message: Can whoever added this specify the exact portions needing citation or take the notice down? I skimmed it, and it is not obvious to me what is being referenced as unverified or original. Saladpope 04:59, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: One or more anon users has been adding dispute tags here and there without explanation. I think whoever has been adding the tags either misunderstands WP:NOR and WP:V, or has their own strong views on how this article should be. This article is a magnet for one-shot drive-by editors whose only concern is how much they like or don't like the movie, and how much the article reflects how they feel. szyslak (t, c, e) 10:31, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Pulled it down. If whoever put it up originally had a real reason, feel free to replace, but please add specific refs here or citation tags to article text.Saladpope 23:47, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unverified / Original notice on the Characters section 

message: The trivia section is Way too big. Most of the facts are from High School Musical Pop-Up Edition. Even though the facts are true about the movie, the section is still too big. Should we delete most of the facts put on there?
-Rosepuff12 16:37, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree and will comply right now. A lot of stuff in there is poory written...and looks like it's directly from the pop-ups. We don't need to know a lot of this stuff. >_> -Sukecchi 17:32, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia Section 

message: Some say The Cheetah Girls 2 is the most successful but others say High School Musical is. Which is it? I thought Cheetah Girls 2 topped it.72.94.46.100 00:38, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In terms of ratings, CG2 got higher in the US. But with album and DVD sales, especially internationally, (for example, in the UK HSM got 800,000 viewers but CG2 got about 200,000) HSM would be more successful. --Bearbear 16:43, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Most Successful DCOM?

message: I have rewritten it, using a lot of the content from the old one, but just taking out the unnecessary stuff. If you have any problems with it, feel free to say it here. Thanks. :P Graphitesmoothie 21:20, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewriting of Characters section 

message: Somebody keeps messing up the characters section saying things like Troy got Gabriella pregnant and that Sharpay has got cancer.
::It's called vandalism. -Sukecchi 23:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Character Mess-Up

message: The article currently states: The terrestrial (aired on BBC One) reception was very lukewarm as it received 3.4 million viewers with 17% share. Is that actually considered lukewarm by British television standards? The link requires registration so I couldn't look it up, but that doesn't sound so bad by U.S. standards. After all, the movie had previously shown on cable in the UK, and the terrestrial broadcast received four times as many viewers as the UK cable premiere. --Metropolitan90 19:28, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It had very little promotion, and it was expected to do better I think because it quadrupled Disney UK's regular movie ratings. --Bearbear 18:54, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lukewarm reception in UK? 

message: I was thinking of maybe creating individual detailed articles on the main charatcers of High School Musical. I was only thinking and I was wondering if anyone thinks I should do it or not. I don't want to create conflict, I was just wondering. So do you think I should do it or not? Adam 1412 20:26 25th January 2007.
:I'd say expand their sections here first. If they become un-weidly, then we split 'em off :) Sound fair? -- Ipstenu (talk|contribs) 15:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They had their own articles before, They were found to be unnecessary. -Sukecchi 13:17, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Character Article Pages

message: In the stage show of High School Musical, there is a mega-mix at the end with all of the main songs in the show. The only difference is that the leads don't sing it, but different selected cast members. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.226.184.85 (talk) 03:41, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stage  Show 

message: Hi everyone.  I think the article is fine now.  I love HSM and the article for it doesn't have to be big and fancy so that everyone notices it. Ben Swanson 01:00, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's Fine 

message: Wasn't this the first movie you could get from iTunes? I could have sworn it was. Shouldn't that be added in? That's definitely worth noting. Anakinjmt 02:55, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never heard this. If you wanna add it find a source saying it was. --Malevious  Userpage •Talk Page• Contributions 04:14, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Got it. I've never understood how adding in links in articles works, so I'll let someone else add it in, but here's the source Anakinjmt 05:11, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  First movie on iTunes