Talk:European Train Control System

message: There doesn't seem to be any consensus to go through with the merger after more than 3 months.  Is it time to close the merger proposal? HamTin (talk) 15:59, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. I'll stick a hatnote on both articles.Sf5xeplus (talk) 01:55, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger proposal

message: Is the proposal for EDGE or Evolved EDGE? I canot find a ref for either?--Kitchen Knife (talk) 16:12, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Its actual reference is GPRS/EGPRS or "(enhanced) GPRS" in the documents. No "evolved" can be found. So it should be plain EDGE. Guidod (talk) 18:40, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: So upgrade to a 13 year old technology rather than a 7 year old. Says a lot about ERA.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 18:54, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually, the Eirene FRS 8 / SRS 16 is a brand new update to the GSM-R FRS 7 / SRS 15 being ten years old. Which shows how slow the railway standardization is. The E-EDGE variant is basically just a software update, so they may think about it in the future but so far, if it is unsure whether the technology meets the SIL-4 level then they just play it safe. Guidod (talk) 20:46, 8 February 2016 (UTC)

text: By the way, I have just read up on GSM-R evolution and they are investigating to introduce LTE-R as the next step. While GRPS increases capacity by a factor of 5 (or 7 with EDGE but only in shunting stations), it could be as much as a factor of 15 with LTE. Apart from capacity they seem to expect less interferences when using LTE-R - current allocation of GSM-R frequencies in Europe may be a bit too close to the public GSM and LTE mobile networks. Guidod (talk) 10:36, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  THE Frequency is ideal from other points of view. Being low it has good travel characteristics, the higher the frequency the closer the base stations need to be and the greater the expense. One of the big changes if they move from GSM to LTE will be the move from TDMA to CDMA. I suspect the very long term will mean moving away from dedicated systems and incorporating a high reliability option in public satellite/stratolite systems systems with a degree of Peer 2 Peer comms, this would save a fortune in dev costs and infrastructure.--Kitchen Knife (talk) 11:40, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  There was an idea for a BOS-GSM in Germany with Advanced Speech Call Items for emergency services.... but it is dead by now. Most services have switched to TETRA by now and a number of railway companies do use TETRA mobiles for its railway workers as well (including the vast network of Russia). Even though frequencies are a scarce resource, Germany extended the GSM-R band by some more dedicated channels and that was it. I have not heard of any attempt to try again extending something like LTE to cope with constant telemetry characteristics ... but what I did hear about is that railways want to create an IP-based core network similar to the public mobile networks which would allow to smoothly switch from one radio technology to the next. That way they could follow the evolution process more closely. In fact, the base stations of todays mobile networks can switch between GSM, UMTS and LTE quite easily also reusing channels .... including to use GSM 900 channels for LTE with an increased coverage in the lower frequency range. Guidod (talk) 23:17, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: EDGE

message: Regarding the deployment of ETCS in Switzerland:
There are three operational lines with ETCS level 2 in Switzerland right now.
- The Mattstetten-Rothrist "new line" (Since 2004)
- The Lötschberg base tunnel (Since 2007)
- The Gotthard base tunnel (December 2016)
The Gotthard line also includes Stations within ETCS level 2 and incorporates controversial ETCS shunting signals.
Copykill (talk) 01:32, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deployment 

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message: Rushlie Indeed there is a lack of a good explanation of what is ETCS L3, thus what you added would be better in the first lines of the L3 section. I actually realised there are inaccuracies in this part as train positioning in level 3 is not relying on beacons (balises) as a continuous positioning solution is required. I will change it if no one gets to it before. Botatao (talk) 10:58, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thanks for your contributions but... 

message: The UK section is long, and most of it is about one, not very important line. Would it be better to create an article about the Cambrian line, or an article about implementing ETCS in the UK, rather than clog up this page with trivial details?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.77.164.64 (talk) 03:25, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  UK section: excessive trivial detail 

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Additionally, it is totally unhelpful to "fix" an empty title by adding "Archived copy", like you did in this edit. XAM2175 (T) 13:08, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
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