Talk:Deathcore

message: Add more info with reliable sources all over places. I needed to add the pioneers of deathcore, the popularity, the criticism and vocal techniques and stuff. Added more. The article lacked information before the edit. If you find unreliable sources although the sources are reliable, just remove them or the content unless it has a source for it that IS reliable. Do NOT revert it. Unless it's completely poorly sourced or whatever. We also HAD to put how the vocals can be called "pig squeals". And we needed a criticism section talking about how it got a MAJOR controversy as 'not real death metal''
Ihy34 (talk) 03:35, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Its actually a good starting point to help develop the article. I think it's impossible to neglect the use of pig squeals in the music. If anything it needs to be elaborated on to describe what it sounds like. The only change to the history section is that isn't Job for a Cowboy seen as the pioneers alongside BMTH and SS? The criticism section isn't too bad, it's well sourced and approaches it objectively, hopefully it can be developed to be more unbias. But it's important to remember we are here to write about the genres history and document journalised fact rather than prove it's not 'real' death metal. Overall good work! Jonjonjohny (talk) 11:20, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  More info on this page. 

message: I added the unreliable sources tag since someone has been adding a bunch of metalzine/blog sources like metalsucks, and others.
Skinless isn't deathcore  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.229.166.204 (talk) 18:09, 13 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Unreliable Sources

message: Remove My Bitter End from the list and link too Belay My Last and We Are the End (are on the list but only as text, not as link to a wikiarticle. --80.161.143.239 (talk) 06:51, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Belay My Last and We Are the End aren't linked because there are no such articles on Wikipedia to link to. Of course, you're more than welcome to look into starting articles on them! As for My Bitter End, I've de-wikified it and fixed the citation, but I don't think there's any real need to remove it. Feel free to reopen the edit request if you have a reason why. 786b6364 (talk) 17:13, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: If you click on the links can you see the articles got deleted because of no notability. If the band are deleted because of notability why so put it on the list? --80.161.143.239 (talk) 21:27, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not done: If the bands are not notable, there is no point adding them to the list. Feel free to re-open the request or contact me on my Talk page. Cheers! -- TOW  07:29, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 23 June 2013 

message: Add Reflections and The Browning to the list and remove The Black Dahlia Murder and Motionless in White. The Black Dahlia Murder is NOT deathcore, they're melodic death metal. Motionless in White are metalcore, putting Motionless in White in a deathcore category is like calling August Burns Red deathcore.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SeaOfSmiles (talk • contribs) 05:07, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on November 19 2013 

message: Of mice and men is not on the death core. list please fix now
2600:1010:B12C:9215:3CFF:5688:1C71:A332 (talk) 23:57, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Kap 7 (talk) 02:48, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 March 2014 

message: Attila (deathcore band) added to deathcore list
The metal mounger (talk) 00:23, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.--¿3family6 contribs 01:28, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2014 

message: Someone add I Declare War. Thanks
ArcangelLaMarivilla (talk) 01:14, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  I Declare War 

message: More examples are required. For example, there has recently been a big trend of bands combining deathcore and symphony, such as Assemble the Chariots, Make Them Suffer and Lorelei. There are also bands who combine deathcore with many genres at once, such as djent, classical music and progressive metal, such as Slice the Cake or Ovid's Withering. You can add those examples and provide some reference to some Sputnik review or something to back it up. Xfing (talk) 20:26, 18 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mention more about the genre's development as of late 

message: An Australian Band called Thy Art Is Murder are considered deathcore and isn't featured in this list.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thy_Art_Is_Murder
Beansyy (talk) 04:54, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: TAIM isn't on here? Hold on, I'm adding them. I thought they were on here, that's strange. Second Skin (talk) 13:18, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 19 August 2014 

message: This article appeared on the internet very recently and is a academic one (Titled: ‘MySpace bands’ and ‘tagging wars’ Conflicts of genre, work ethic and media platforms in an extreme music scene) and was written by "Tamás Tófalvy, Ph.D., an assistant professor at Budapest University of Technology and Economics" and was published on First Monday. I think the question is (before I've read it) does it have a place on wikipedia and would it be useful? Jonjonjohny (talk) 18:25, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It's published through a peer-reviewed journal, so that alone is enough for it to be used as a reliable source. The author is also vice-chair of the Hungarian International Association for the Study of Popular Music, so that shores up things even further. Go ahead and use this, it's a fantastic find.--¿3family6 contribs 18:58, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Academic article on Deathcore 

message: Someone changed the image of Guy to the Red Chord to this one of Suicide Silence. I'm kind of in favor of the Suicide Silence once versus the TRC one, anyone else agree?
Not only is it more horizontal (takes up less downspace on the page) but SS did a lot more for deathcore than TRC did. Second Skin (talk) 06:14, 1 February 2016 (UTC)
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message: There are several underground movements in deathcore that I think deserve to be recognized on the page. 
*Doomcore
Doomcore is the fusion of doom metal and sludge metal with deathcore, and bands use slowed tempos, downtuning, and lower growls to achieve a really heavy sound. Bands include Black Tongue, Immoralist, and Graves.
*Aliencore
Aliencore is the fusion of deathcore and tech-death, using a lot of technicality, themes of aliens, and sometimes atmospheres. Bands include Rings of Saturn, Aversions Crown, The Zenith Passageway, and Enterprise Earth.
*Downtempo Deathcore
Basically Deathcore that has been Downtuned, with slower tempos, that isn't influenced by doom and sludge metal. Bands include Drown in Sulphur, Traitors, and The Last Ten Seconds of Life
*Blackened Deathcore
Deathcore that has incorporated black metal elements, like atmosphere, lyrical content, and vocals. Bands include Carnifex, Lorna Shore, and She Must Burn.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.167.232.114 (talk) 17:22, 12 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  subgenres 

message: I don't understand why this article is allowed to have an entire subsection entitled "Criticism". I tried to make a similar edit to a different page and it was said that such a section violates the neutrality policy. So, it should have to be one or the other. It can't be that some articles are allowed to have such a section and others aren't. Who gets to determine that? Don't get me wrong I am no fan of deathcore and I think it SHOULD be criticized, but if you allow such content you open the door to allow it done on other pages. If it can be done here, I don't see why I can't do it on a different page, so long as I use reputable sources and my information is fully truthful and accurate.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by KevinGrem (talk • contribs) 12:09, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
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message: The opening paragraph states that deathcore originated in Arizona and Southern California's Inland Empire (especially Coachella Valley) and it's with the last part I take exception. There are no citations. I can cite myself to refute that though as I was booking the vast majority of metalcore shows in the Coachella Valley from 2002-2008 and while deathcore did become popular here, there are zero notable deathcore bands, labels or festivals in the Coachella Valley. Darkness Awaits and It Involves Murder were the two biggest bands in the CV. Suicide Silence and Job for a Cowboy did play here, but not often. The CV is a region that is between Phoenix, AZ and the Inland Empire (mostly Corona where the Showcase Theater was located) where most bands did originate. If we are going to leave the CV part in there, there should be more than one notable band mentioned the article and at this point there are zero. I'm removing that only because there are no citations. AndrewK760 (talk) 15:51, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Locations