Talk:Rich Rodriguez

message: The user that blanked this Talk page shouldn't have.  I'm not saying this section shouldn't one day be removed.  But while the Alabama drama is still fresh news, it's important to keep a record of this discussion.  At the very least, people will wonder why the article has restricted editing, and this discussion will help. Aerodave 23:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it's not acceptable to remove comments form article talk pages under any circumstances unless it is to remove personal attacks, archive old comments on the talk page, or the commenter removes his own comments to save face. --TheFarix (Talk) 00:15, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: General discussion about a topic unrelated to writing an encyclopedia can be removed at any time. (I'm not offering a commentary on whether this removal met that standard, but this isn't a message board and removal is not limited to the circumstances you gave.) --B (talk) 17:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)

text: His family is originally from Spain, which is not Hispanic (that term is properly used only for the people of Mexico, Latin America, etc.). --B (talk) 17:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hispanic is a term that can mean different things depending on who uses it.  According to the wikipedia article Hispanic the official US Government definition for census purposes is "a person of Mexican, Puerto Rican, Cuban, South or Central American, or other Spanish culture or origin, regardless of race."  Clearly that includes Spain.  I also located an interview where he discusses being a Hispanic head coach (http://content.scholastic.com/browse/article.jsp?id=7256), so he does self identify that way. Maracle (talk) 01:43, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleting comments from the talk page

message: WVU has not sued Rodriguez. The action is what is known as a Declaratory Action which is a request of the court to deem the existing contract to be valid. In this action no damages are sought and no suit is brought. A law suit cannot be filed until after January 19, 2008 assuming the $1.33 million installment payment is not made as part of the liquidated damages clause contained in the employment contract. (DA)
: They've amended their complaint to include breach of contract now that the deadline for his first payment has passed. Maracle (talk) 02:10, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment from anon

message: Several references have been added recently to an issue regarding the use of money from a recruiting fund for private air travel (http://www.register-herald.com/sports/local_story_022232247.html).  The references have implied that Rodriguez inappropriately used the funds for other purposes.  The articles in fact state that it was the WVU Athletic Department that used the funds for other purposes over Rodriguez's objections.  I just wanted to point this out since it has been inserted incorrectly twice now.  This issue is covered in the section titled Contract Controversy at the moment. Maracle (talk) 21:48, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recruiting fund 

message: While the phrase is accurate, I've never heard a buyout referred to as "liquidated damages."  I've reverted this because I think it's clearer and because the media uniformly uses the word buyout. -TheMile (talk) 14:10, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I respectfully disagree, so I put "liquidated damages" term back.  The term is precisely accurate.  That is how the contract itself refers to that particular paragraph.  The term "buyout" is slang, and is misleading, in that it makes it sound like it is OK to breach a contract and buy your way out, which is clearly POV.  Just because the media uses language loosely in referring to the clause does not mean that an encyclopedia should do the same.  Cmichael (talk) 01:28, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Since this is an article about a football coach, if so much weight is going to be placed on a contract dispute it seems to me that being as specific and accurate about the dispute as possible is the best way to handle it.  Wikipedia's article on liquidated damages is actually very good and I think it helps a reader to understand the legal arguments on both sides just by reading the article summary (that it is a predetermined amount of damages for breaching a contract, and that courts will only order them to be paid to the extent actual damages occured).  This seems to be a big part of what their dispute is about. Maracle (talk) 04:46, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Fair 'nuff.  Cmichael (talk) 16:10, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buyout phrasing 

message: This section is convoluted and just plain inaccurate in some respects.  I don't have time to fix it right now, and am leaving this note mostly as a reminder to myself to do so when I get a chance. If somebody else wants to work on it in the interim, my feelings wont be hurt <grin>.  Cmichael (talk) 04:48, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Larry Aschebrook

message: I took out most of the details about the legal maneuvering during the lawsuit.  It all seemed relevant when it was a current event, but now that its in the past, it seems to me to be unnecessary detail which doesn't belong in an encyclopedia.  Cmichael (talk) 16:02, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Somebody cut and pasted the details back.  I just removed them again. If you feel this level of detail really needs to be in there, let's talk about it here, OK?  Thanks.  Cmichael (talk) 03:13, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup of "Departure from WVU" section 

message: There was some inconsistency in the Glenville section. It originally stated he went 1-7-1 in 1990, then 5-5 in 1991. Then stated 4-5-1 in 1991 in the very next sentence. I deleted the line stating he was 5-5 as 4-5-1 is the correct record, so there is now only one reference to the 1991 season record. Also changed the sentence structure slighty for better comprehension given all the n-dashes that were in the sentence with the record and aside.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.10.27.236 (talk) 02:32, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Glenville 1991 Season Record

message: The paragraph on the 2008 Michigan football season has turned into a jumbled mess.  I haven't really followed it closely, maybe somebody who has could jump in and put it in chronological order, or perhaps even construct a table?  Cmichael (talk) 04:25, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Given the existence of this page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_Michigan_Wolverines_football_team I don't really see the need to write out every game here. A link should suffice with a brief summary. Also, I should point out that this isn't Michigan's worst season.  It is the most losses they've ever had in a year.  Their actual winning percentage was lower in 1962, 1936 and 1934.  In 1934, for example, they went 1-7. IMO, that's "worse" than 3-9. Solsun (talk) 01:38, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A brief summary and a link certainly works for me.  Cmichael (talk) 04:24, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 2008 Games

message: As far as his nickname, he is reffered to in the WV media as Coach Rod, never just "ROD" That I have ever heard.  The nickname needs to be left "Coach Rod"
Garkeith (talk) 11:49, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: NICKNAME

message: I started to put the Boren paragraph back in with some cleanup, as I think it is an important part of the story, however I realized that the citation is a blog, which is unacceptable.  I would be in favor of including the information, though, if it is properly cited.  Cmichael (talk) 17:32, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: IP just replaced the content, I removed it.  I have no problem with the content, but blogs are not appropriate for citations. Cmichael (talk) 14:07, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

text: That passage is clearly NNPOV or original research.  "Offensive behavior?"  "Legendary coach?"  What's more, the Free Press link is broken.  TheMile (talk) 19:29, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Then clean it up. Also, the original research argument is a bit much. Oh, and it is not "NNPOV" it is NPOV. You are saying it is not not point of view (a double negative). Also, NPOV does not prohibit material from a POV subject that is sourced--this clearly is. I cited a sepearte article since the FREEP link is broken.--CraigMonroe (talk) 20:08, 5 September 2009 (UTC)

text: Additionally, the use of "offensive behavor," since sourced is clearly not POV. While I doubt that the use of "legendary" for describing Bo Schembechler (sic) is in any way a legitimate problem, I have removed it. It appears all your complaints have been edited. Any thing else you have problems with?--CraigMonroe (talk) 20:21, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Better.  "Offensive behavior" was either an, ahem, non-neutral point of view, or original research with respect to the previous set of links, which mentioned nothing about Boren's reasons for transfer.  The ones you added mention "belittling players," so its inclusion now is fine.  However, Boren doesn't seem to have said anything specific about Rodriguez, only the coaching staff.  Furthermore, neither Wermers nor other players "voiced similar concerns."  Wermers only said he didn't get along with the coaches, so claiming otherwise would neither be NNPOV or original research.  The only other mentioned player, Dan O'Neill, gave no reasons for his transfer.  This is why I removed the complete paragraph before (not to mention the factual inaccuracies and horrid grammar); it was terrible.  TheMile (talk) 22:42, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Justin Boren Controversy

message: It would appear that new evidence (specifically this interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTB4wgDMDJc) has come to light, with Rodriguez himself stating that he was born in Chicago. I'm not sure you can find a more reliable source than his own words, on video. Someone has already edited the article, I've added the video as a source. I'm content to leave the line about being a native of Grant Town as he repeatedly talks about growing up there and clearly feels a deeper connection to it than Chicago. This video has a wealth of biographical information, I hope to see it used a lot in the article -- MichiganCharms (talk) 23:37, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthplace Redux 

message: Please note the discussion I've placed at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons/Noticeboard#Rich_Rodriguez. If you have any comments, please comment there. Thanks! Magog the Ogre (talk) 09:09, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  BLP discussion 

message: We as Wikipedia editors must not jump the gun and report rumors as facts. The latest out of Ann Arbor is that Rich Rodriguez has not been fired. Leave his status as coach in the present tense unless something happens definitely.
:It's now official he's been fired. Ergzay (talk) 19:52, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Still head coach 

message: If people could keep an eye out for a new image of Rodriguez (hopefully something of him at Arizona) that we could use to replace the current image, it would be much appreciated. --Kevin W./Talk•CFB uniforms/Talk 03:02, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New picture 

message: Since the Detroit Free Press broke the original story and have been accused of questionable journalistic practices in regards to it, using them as the primary source for this section is inappropriate. They are a party to the scandal and citing them as a source is no more appropriate than citing a press release.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.4.70.16 (talk) 05:01, 20 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Detroit Free Press as citations for "NCAA rule violations" section 

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