Talk:Telematics

message: Who is Dennis Foy? When did he describe the etymology of the term telematics?
To my knowledge the term telematics is the anglicised version of the French word télématique, a merger of the words télécommunication and informatique, that has been coined 1978 by Simon Nora in their report: 
S. Nora and A. Minc. L'Informatisation de la société. Rapport à M. le Président de la République. La Documentation Française, Paris, 1978. 
English translation: The Computerization of Society. A report to the President of France. MIT Press, Cambridge, Massachusetts, 1980.
I also disagree on the following statement "... the term later evolved to refer to automation in automobiles ...".
Automative telematics is only a subset of telematics! Please check the German Wikipage on the topic which is much more accurate.
 
88.18.18.41 23:44, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology

message: The titles of both these articles have captured the interest of all experts.com and answers.com
, and also appear to have generated an exclusive audience of advertisers who may very well benefit from 'standalone' articles like these. I am beginning to think it's a good idea to have both. Does anyone have any thoughts on merging these two articles and also allowing them to remain separate -- perhaps it would help attract more contributors to Wikipedia? --Lperez2029 18:54, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Observation

message: Thank you for the 'external link' input.  Please contribute to the article by expanding it. Actually, it is WP policy to contribute encyclopedic material and crossreference information to external links. Contributions are needed to the article - not just the addition of links. Thank you!  --Lperez2029 19:40, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Netistix

message: I revised and organized the external links section. I left the external links to what I thought appropriate for the article and recommend that future considerations for link additions be discussed in this talk page before inclusion. Simply adding links without contributing to the article is considered inappropriate. --Lperez2029 21:35, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of 'external links' tag

message: I have merged Wireless vehicle safety communications article to Telematics. The section still needs some refinement (to better fit harmoniously in the Telematics scope) -- all good input is welcome. --Lperez2029Lperez2029 23:55, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge of Wireless vehicle safety communications to Telematics

message: There are several things which should be considered when adding an external link.
Is it accessible to the reader?  Is it proper in the context of the article (useful, tasteful, informative, factual, etc.)?  Is it a functional link, and likely to continue being a functional link? 
Adding external links can be a service to our readers, but they should be kept to a minimum of those that are meritable, accessible and appropriate to the article - Wikipedia articles can include links to web pages outside Wikipedia. Such pages could contain further research which is accurate and on-topic; information that could not be added to the article for reasons such as copyright or amount of detail (such as professional athlete statistics, movie or television credits, interview transcripts, or online textbooks); or other meaningful, relevant content that is not suitable for inclusion in an article (such as reviews and interviews).  Some external links are welcome, but it is not Wikipedia's purpose to include a comprehensive list of external links related to each topic. No page should be linked from a Wikipedia article unless its inclusion is justified. Note that since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links may not alter search engine rankings.  If the site or page to which you want to link includes information that is not yet a part of the article, consider using it as a source first. Refer to the citation guideline for instructions on citing sources. This guideline refers to external links other than citations.
The above 'external link' general guidelines are from Wikipedia and should be followed - since Telematics is (fairly) new technology, meritable and accessible links to the article are deemed appropriate. Thank you. --Lperez2029 17:19, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "There is nothing wrong with adding one or more useful content-relevant links to an article; however, excessive lists can dwarf articles and detract from the purpose of Wikipedia. On articles about topics with many fansites, including a link to one major fansite may be appropriate, marking the link as such. See Wikipedia:External links and m:When should I link externally for some guidelines". --Lperez2029 17:41, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A list of telematics providers constitutes spam; Wikipedia is not a collection of external links. Veinor (talk to me) 18:33, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In this instance, I have to disagree with your assesment that a list of telematics providers constitutes spam. Service providers in this Telematics presentation is used to define the various "providers" of Telematics systems and services -- are used to depict potential applications of such systems and therefore qualify to educate the general public interested in such technology. Please refrain from further edits to this page. Also, I have looked at your background and it appears you've made no contributions whatsoever to this article, or to the Intelligent Vehicle Initiative, telecommunications and informatics in general.  Thank you. --Lperez2029 22:45, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just because I don't know about a particular subject doesn't mean I can't judge the links. I have a history of link removal across many articles. And I will not refuse to edit this page just because you ask me to; you do not own it. All of the links under 'Telematics service providers', 'Telematics management services', and 'Telematics system developers' are intended to promote something, which WP:EL advises against. As none of them are the official site, I have to conclude that these links are inappropriate. Veinor (talk to me) 22:51, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

text: True. But these links are promoting their particular product/service, as opposed to Wikipedia, which doesn't necessarily promote knowledge from Wikipedia. And, while there is nothing wrong with pride, WP:EL concerns sites that are chiefly designed to advertise. Veinor (talk to me) 23:34, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: GPS Police I am going to suggest to you that before you Spam the network altogether, make a solid contribution to the article for a change - or to Wikipedia (monetarily) - but don't just come in and push your product by adding links while deleting those who added links but who also contributed to the Telematics cause -- your actions are considered rude and inappropriate.  Get it together! Thank You. --Lperez2029 02:58, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If deleting the entries and links of good wikipedia contributors isn't rude, then what may we call it?    Perhaps you deleted by mistake, and that is understandable - would you say that's the situation here for clarification sake?  --Lperez2029 21:50, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GPS Police

message: Practical applications: Vehicle tracking
states that "Advanced vehicle localisation system for public transport may employ odometry instead of GPS/GNSS."
My company makes GPS/GNSS systems, we have competitors making odometry systems. The sentence is basically a sales pitch of our competitors.
Odometry based systems assume a fixed route and give misleading information if the vehicle is forced to divert from that route.
This is why our GPS/GNSS system has been considered superior.
I suggest the following as a more neutral statement:
"Vehicle tracking systems may also use odometry or dead reckoning as alternative or complementary mean of navigation"
Graiwulf (talk) 15:18, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV-dispute 

message: The subsection headed "Telematics Education" reads rather like a press release for European Automotive Digital Innovation Studio (EADIS). I did some edits for punctuation and sentence structure but I haven't the expertise on this topic to edit it for POV and relevance. This subsection could also be placed in a new section called something like Ongoing Research, since it's not about practical applications. Egmonster (talk) 01:27, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Telematics Education" doesn't belong under Practical Applications of Vehicle Telematics. 

message: The lede lists four examples of telematics, but aren't all four the same thing - vehicle telematics?  
*the technology of sending, receiving and storing information via telecommunication devices in conjunction with effecting control on remote objects
*the integrated use of telecommunications and informatics for application in vehicles and with control of vehicles on the move
*GNSS technology integrated with computers and mobile communications technology in automotive navigation systems
*(most narrowly) the use of such systems within road vehicles, also called vehicle telematics
And the last item that says that vehicle telematics is the most narrow use of the term doesn't fit with the fact that the overwhelming majority of the info in this article is about vehicle telematics. I'm not a telematics expert and so would prefer to leave this to others from the field, but if it's not corrected, I may stay at a Holiday Inn Express and then take a crack at it. Timtempleton (talk) 21:31, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lede is a bit jumbled 

message: I propose that Intelligent vehicle technologies be merged into Telematics. Everything I've read indicates that they are the same thing. Timtempleton (talk) 21:47, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Closing, given the uncontested opposition and no support over more than 18 months. Klbrain (talk) 23:09, 1 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

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