Talk:Freddy's Nightmares

message: I updated the entry under "DVD release", making mention that sets are being sold online which were transferred from television recordings.
:Is it a legal release? Is there an reliable source saying so?   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 11:11, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It isn't censoring. Wikipedia is not a marketing tool, and if these DVDs are being sold (which you have provided no reliable source for anyway) then they are being sold illegally. We don't solicite illegal sales, and the only way to talk about it would be if it was in the news.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 13:02, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm a fan too, I have the original VHS of the series that were released. Doesn't mean anything. Where are they being sold? It can be quite obvious if it's legal or not. Illegal activites are discussed because they have news coverage. Do you have citations that show news coverage of illegal sale of these DVDs? Do you even have a reliable source that says they are being sold?   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 13:12, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Generaly page linking doesn't help. It needs to be a link directly to the information. We shouldn't have to search a website to verify the existence of the information. Your opinion of the quality of the disks is original research. Wikipiedia is about verifiability, not truth.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 13:36, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I said they could be, because you haven't supplied me with verification that they are being sold period, let alone that they aren't some bootleg version of the show, which is what it sounds like by the way you are describing the quality.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 13:44, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Why is it that Amazon does not have this DVD listed? The reason I question the authenication of this release (i.e. that it isn't just some bootleg version) is that it makes no mentioned that New Line released it, it's "region free" when almost no DVDs are region free, and that when I run a search, the only DVDs for this series that pop up (which aren't from those two sources you mentioned above) are for the volume DVDs that were released in the UK. The reason I say Amazon is a clue, is because Amazon doesn't sell bootleg movies, there's an issue with copyright because of that. No one is listing a releasing house with this set. Look at House Season 3. Universal Studios is listed as the releasing house. Why isn't New Line listed for Freddy's Nightmares? I don't doubt it's being sold, what I doubt is the legality of the situation. What you are presenting is information that implies this is an official release of "Freddy's Nightmares". I found another place that was selling it, ironically they had a completely different cover art .   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 14:18, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

text: If it's bootleg, then it isn't an official release. If it is not an official release then it needs significant coverage in the outside media to warrant inclusion. There is not verification that it is official, but a good clue is the fact that New Line's name is no where to be found. The article is not misleading. No official release of the series has happened on DVD. These do not look official, and I've seen no coverage that says they are official. They can only be found on obscure Television DVD websites, and not on highly commercial sites like Amazon. If they were official, why wouldn't New Line have them released everywhere? Since the question of whether it is official is up for grabs, it needs to be notable. What makes this notable? The fact that some random person happened to burn the television show to a DVD and sell it? If New Line files a lawsuit, that would be notable. Other than that, let IMDb list the bootlegs. What you are doing is considered promoting because you are citing the website that is actually selling the product, instead of citing some news organization that is mentioning the sale of the product. No coverage means it isn't notable.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 15:51, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia wasn't around during the Holocaust, which gets plenty of coverage now. Why would someone come to Wikipedia to find DVDs to buy? Isn't that what Google is for, to search out things you want. There are 2 million articles on Wikipedia, you better believe there is inconsistency. We report official releases, not leaked or stolen releases. The only way those get added is if there is significant coverage of the event. People have been selling bootleg copies of Freddy's Nightmares for awhile not, and they do it for other shows, it doesn't change the fact that the show was never officially released.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 00:43, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Believe what you will, I'm not discussing this any further. Unless you can provide a reliable source that says New Line has officially released this series on DVD, or some new coverage discussing the illegal sale of this show, then it's a moot point.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 02:48, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Feel free to go to Wikipedia talk:Third opinion and request additional opinions. Two editors have disagreed with its inclusion.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 03:15, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Updated