Talk:El Sistema

message: My accompanying stub is mainly material taken from the founder's bio (and removed there where not necessary in light of the stub). The following excerpts of the bio do not clearly apply to El Sistema, but may:
: ... , and became the Minister of Culture in 1983
: Abreu has participated in exchange and co-operation programmes with Spain, Latin American countries and the United States.  His orchestras have received UNESCO's International Prize of Music (1993-1995).  
--Jerzy•t 03:24, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
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message: I disagree with the name change to FESNOJIV. The popular name, for obvious reasons, is "El Sistema." We should make the encyclopedia user-friendly. --Niels Gade (talk) 21:32, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Name change

message: How does someone speak in Bold? 201.241.164.143 (talk) 08:06, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miraculous 

message: I think some material on how the program has changed (or not) under Hugo Chavez would be interesting. Historian932 (talk) 00:24, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I've read in Tunstall's recent book (which I've listed as a "further reading" source until I can specifically quote some of it) does not suggest that anything has changed.  She notes somewhere that El Sistema has survived and developed under political systems ranging from the right to the Chavez era. As recently as 2009 she notes that the Simon Bolivar Youth Orchestra appeared in London and in Washington, DC. Viva-Verdi (talk) 05:12, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes under Chavez? 

message: What I wrote in 2010 above still applies. More and more non-notable community music education projects, most with no formal affiliation to El Sistema whatsoever, have been added since then, replete with copy-pasted blurbs and referenced solely to their own websites. I have drastically pruned the blurbs, but in my view the entire list should go, replaced by a prose summary mentioning only examples which have multiple third party coverage. Voceditenore (talk) 10:14, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with your suggestion to remove the listing of individual programs. Under "../In Other Countries/United States/" I would expect to find 1) information regarding the subject matter at the national level, 2) Noteworthy Organizations at the national level, or recognized nationally in secondary sources. I can not contribute to this effort due to COI, but I support the changes you suggest. Bobsd (talk) 17:20, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: [[El Sistema#El Sistema in other countries|El Sistema in other countries]] section is a mess

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message: Where does the article mention "authoritarianism"?  Burrobert (talk) 13:37, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The article clearly states that "So far the protests, now entering their second month, have left at least 35 dead, hundreds injured and more than a thousand arrested", and the government is further described as the one "which has plunged the country into one of the most serious crises in its history", as included in the reference's quote. --NoonIcarus (talk) 08:32, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  You must be hard of hearing. The question was "Where does the article mention "authoritarianism"?" Burrobert (talk) 13:55, 8 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I have solved the issue with an alternative wording. I also would advice you to stop the sealioning with edit summaries such as Start by engaging in a calm discussion on the article's talk page., while at the same time making snarky comments like the one above, or any others that I have commented. Many of the times you have added inline tags there are issues that can be easily fixed per WP:DIY. --NoonIcarus (talk) 17:05, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Authoritarianism