Talk:Kiss of Judas

message: I'm missing the reference for the sentence: "It is the same verb that Plutarch uses to describe a famous kiss that Alexander the Great gave Bagoas." I can't find it neither in Alexander the Greats page nor in Bagoas nor in Plutarchs. what was the kiss about what is the background? Please provide reference. 14:35, 21 October 2007‎ 83.77.238.61 
:See Plutarch, Parallel Lives, "Alexander", section 67, and the article Bagoas (courtier) here in the Wikipedia. Das Baz, aka Erudil 17:40, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: can you explain where section 67 is? i only see 23 sections in Parallel Lives.   — Chris Capoccia  T⁄C 07:55, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Have tagged this for a better source other than the original Plutarch entry. If someone other than the original poster has made this comparison, please so indicate (particularly since apparently two users have not been able to find it). Thank you. Mannanan51 (talk) 05:20, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing reference

message: I've never seen an explanation for why Judas used a kiss -- as theologians and biblical historians are constantly ready to point out explanations about little cultural details in the bible, it surprised me that there is no explanation here. He could have just as easily simply pointed Jesus out to the authorities, but it is implied that there was a need to arrange some code. Why? For that matter, why did the authorities need someone to point him out? I assumed he was somewhat well-known in town by the time they got to this point. 63.87.189.17 (talk) 14:09, 27 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Because they didnt have TV to watch the news and see his face. They would have known all about him but likely never seen him in person or any image of him save for oral discriptions. As for why a kiss rather then just simply point, go read the bible jesus was surrounded by his own men and they even get into a fight and some guy loses an ear before jesus says to stop, Judas wanted to betray him in a way that he could have plausible deniablity rather than outright openly pointing him out. 192.250.175.26 (talk) 09:41, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions that need to be answered here 

message: is about the movie! --79.207.73.230 (talk) 14:40, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed ! Could somebody clear up this confusion ? It has been half a year since 79.207.73.230 made this point. Other languages [i.e. projects] are also "affected". Hirpex (talk) 23:35, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This query appears to have been resolved. -BobKilcoyne (talk) 12:32, 7 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[de:Judas Kiss]] 

message: The kiss "of Judas" in the Apocalypses of James
This is the most important revelation in the history of mankind. When read correctly, the "betrayal" of Jesus is really the succession of James the Just. In the Nag Hammadi Codex gnostic Apocalypses of James, both First and Second, the protagonist, James, kisses Jesus. Here it is obviously a symbolic transfer of spirit. In context, especially "the flesh is weak"http://gnosis.org/naghamm/1ja.html, "armed multitudes seizing [archons in NHC, Jesus in the canon]"http://gnosis.org/naghamm/1ja.html, "Hail, brother [James the Just in NHC, 'Master' in the canon]"http://gnosis.org/naghamm/2ja.html, and "stripped and rising naked [spiritually, Mark 14:51-2]"http://gnosis.org/naghamm/2ja.html, this is an orthodox reversal of a gnostic original tradition of Mastership succession. What this reveals is serial Mastership: the world is never without a living Master. Go to www.rssb.org and Science of the Soul.org for more information.http://www.scienceofthesoul.org/product_p/en-056-0.htmSahansdal (talk) 05:34, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Clearly not. Its source, Robert Wahler, is a "life-long follower of the teachings of a true mystic Master, Maharaj Charan Singh." which is fine but doesn't make him an expert on the subject, and his books are self-published. I think I've cleared him out of this and [{Gospel of Judas]]. Dougweller (talk) 15:25, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: James delivering the kiss

message: Judas Iscariot. Betrayer and the only known "Gay thing" Iran. Ryansrobison (talk) 22:41, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  BAZZAR!