Talk:Fingal

message: Fine Gall, the Irish for Fingal, means "the tribe of the foreigners", not the fair haired foreirners. I would say that the bit that Fingal is sometimes called North County Dublin is a bit off, its nearly always called that, people only say Fingal if they are talking bout the council etc. Bolak77 01:27, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Name and status

message: Does this mean we have 27 countys in Ireland, not 26? Fergananim 17:24, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be 30, not 27 - Dublin is split into Dublin Corporation, Fingal, South Dublin and Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown, and Tipperary is split into two counties also. --Kiand 13:22, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: 27th county?

message: If I recollect, this page was at "County of Fingal" for some time, which I thought was reasonable, as technically it is a county. It's also quite reasonable not to assume the traditional phrasing of "County Fingal", seeing as it's not really commonly referred to as a county at all. Also the form "County of" suits the other Dublin cocos such as South Dublin and Dun Laoghaire/Rathdown. zoney  ♣ talk 17:36, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Aye, sounds reasonable all right.  I'd support a move back. BastunBaStun not BaTsun 08:53, 27 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Hello anonymous visitor. No, Fingal is a county, a legally established administrative entity. It is also the case that to many of its residents it is part of County Dublin at the same time, but this is nothing new, or unique to Ireland. Ask residents of Leeds where they live and they'll mention Yorkshire, which has not been a county legally for a long time, same for Uxbridge and other Middlesex towns. So Ireland has 32 counties, 6 in the North, 26 in the Republic, and in some sense always will have, but local government is delivered by way of 26 local authorities in NI, and 29 modern counties in the RoI. I guess you could call the 26 traditional counties or some such if it helps. All this was debated many years ago, as evidenced on this page. Twilson r (talk) 23:04, 24 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Name 

message: The article doesn't explain the crest fully:
*What is the bird and it's significance?
*What is the crop in the top right of the crest and does it have significance beyond the agricultural?
*Does the St. Brigid's cross have significance beyond a historic expression of piety? (e.g. A specific link with the saint or a historic event.)
Autarch (talk) 16:49, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: County Crest

message: With all due respect to what is claimed as the origin, may I mention that fifteen thousand years ago the sea-level of the world was 400 feet lower, with the Western European continent as one continuous land-mass.  What is now the British Isles and Ireland were joined together and to the mainland of France and the low countries, as the present North Sea and Channels were also dry land.  Vestiges of the original name of this land still exist in Portu-gal, Gal-icia, Gaul, Gales or - now - Wales, Cornu-gales or Cornwall, Galway, Galloway (by which you still walked to Ireland as the sea-level rose over the succeeding ten thousand years) and Fin-gal, or the Land's End of those times, with the Shetland and Orkney Isles still buried under the retreating ice. - So Fingal, whatever it has come to be applied to - and so to mean - since then, would seem to owe its origin to being the apparent tip or fin of the western world of Gal. Absolutelyamazin (talk) 14:13, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So, let me get this straight... 15,000 years ago, whooever was living there was speaking English.  Right. BastunBaStun not BaTsun 14:45, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology

message: I have removed the sentence stating that the Council is currently controlled by an alliance of the Labour Party and Socialist Party as this is incorrect.  The Socialist Party Councillors voted for the Labour Party's Ciaran Byrne as Chair of the Council but no actual alliance exists. BOZG (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fingal County Council 

message: The etymology of "Fingal" is "Fine Gall", meaning "foreign tribe", i.e. Norsemen, as stated in the opening sentence of the article. It is not related to "Fionn Gall", meaning fair(-haired) strangers. The "references" supporting "Fionn Gall" are spurious: reference 5, the bare url, makes no mention of the area nor of the Fionnghaill, only a person named Dubhgall; The Scandinavian Kingdom of Dublin has a discussion of the etymology of Fionnghaill, not the place-name "Fingal"; and Fingal and its Churches was written in 1888, before there was any serious study of Viking Ireland. I don't know about the Duchas booklet, but it's a safe bet that it was similarly misquoted. For "Fine Gall" see Dublin English: Evolution and Change By Raymond Hickey, Fionn mac Cumhaill: Celtic Myth in English Literature By James MacKillop or Annals of Ulster, Cathal Mac Maghnusa Maguire. --Scolaire (talk) 09:40, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fine Gall not Fionn Gall 

message: Is it common usage or just OR to state "In Ireland, the usage of the word county nearly always comes before rather than after the county name; thus "County Clare" in Ireland as opposed to "Clare County" in Michigan, US. The exception to this norm occurs in the case of those counties created after 1994 which drop the word county entirely; thus "Fingal" as opposed to "County Fingal"."? Laurel Lodged (talk) 15:04, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: See discussion at Talk:Counties_of_Ireland#Style_for_counties_created_after_1997 Snappy (talk) 15:35, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  County Fingal or just Fingal? 

message: Due to ongoning IP vandalism and massive sockpuppetry, page protection has been requested. Snappy (talk) 12:10, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No comment on the edits (I was the person who came up with the "Fingal is a county in Ireland" wording, but that's by the by), but there is no vandalism going on here. These are factual edits by somebody who disagrees with you, and has stated his/her case here on the talk page. Therefore, it is a content dispute. Sockpuppetry? Probably, given the number of newly-created SPA's involved. Perhaps you should amend your request to say "sockpuppetry and edits against consensus."  Scolaire (talk) 14:29, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: And now it appears the "wrong version" is fully protected. Be careful what you wish for...  Scolaire (talk) 19:19, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page protection requested 

message: The current wording for intros of Irish counties was agreed at WikiProject:Ireland in July 2011, see here, after a lengthy debate, involving many editors. Consensus can and does change, and if any editor wants to try and change the Irish county intros, feel free to re-open this discussion. Snappy (talk) 15:57, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish county intros - consensus 

message: McCrum, Cran and MacNeil's lay book on The Story of English  (p. 166) shows Fingal as having/being a Gaelic isolate.211.225.33.104 (talk) 08:47, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language 

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message: The population given in the article is for 2011. A source is given. The population in the infobox according to the 2016 has no source!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wanfried-Dublin (talk • contribs) 10:29, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
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message: Ridiculous page. Fingal is not defined as a county of Ireland. Nonsense Theboycaoimhs (talk) 13:27, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, you're wrong. Please read the article, or, for example, the linked Act of the Oireachtas, and/or the 'Status' section of the talk page, above.  You have reverted more than three times already. Consider this your warning to stop edit warring, as more than three such reverts can get you blocked. BastunĖġáḍβáś₮ŭŃ! 14:15, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a ridiculous fudge of language and knowingly misrepresenting something to make Fingal appear to be a county in Ireland. It is an administrative region. Ugh Theboycaoimhs (talk) 14:32, 24 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Ugh indeed, when people don't understand how the statute law of Ireland works. Read the Local Government (Dublin) Act, 1993. It quite clearly abolishes the county of Dublin - 9.—(1) On the establishment day— (a) the county shall cease to exist, and creates the new counties of Fingal, South Dublin and Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown. The act was passed by the Oireachtas, so it's law. If you don't like it, fair enough; but it's a fact and you can't argue with facts. Spleodrach (talk) 18:31, 24 June 2020 (UTC)

text: A sock/meat puppet is now editing as well. Spleodrach (talk) 16:28, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: "Subtle plans are here again" :) ——Serial # 17:07, 25 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fingal IS NOT a county. It was created in 1994 to better manage the growing population of County Dublin. It is a local government area, NOT a county. And anyway, even if it legally is a county, Wikipedia doesn't exactly follow the exact legal way, it follows the way it's vastly recognized by the population, ask ANYONE in Ireland and they will say Dublin is a County and if they even know what Fingal is they'll tell you it's a local government area (or something along those lines). Calling Fingal a county in this article is just pointless, confusing, and contradictory to other Wikipedia articles and to the way people and organisations (including the government many times) refer to Dublin and Fingal. ComplainingCamel (talk) 15:28, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hey there, do you not understand basic law? Fingal IS a county. Read the Local Government (Dublin) Act, 1993. It quite clearly abolishes the county of Dublin and creates the new counties of Fingal, South Dublin and Dun Laoghaire-Rathdown. The act was passed by the Oireachtas, so it is THE law. If you don't like it, fair enough; but it's a fact and you can't argue with facts. Btw, we don't "ask anyone" their opinion on what is what, because on Wikipedia, we stick to facts not some rando's opinion! Spleodrach (talk) 23:56, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This is such a strange page to come across. Thought the Act stated that it would be coterminous with the electoral county. Think this is really getting into the weeds. Nobody outside of this thinks Fingal is a county. Can't trust wikipedia I suppose. Kevmedia1 (talk) 15:05, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

text: Not "some rando", all 5,123,536 people living in Ireland. King Bilbo I (talk) 17:46, 26 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fingal is not a county