Wikipedia talk:The Core Contest

message: My health is going up and down a bit too much to be a reliable organiser (should have posted in January). Would be a shame if my tardiness means there is no core contest this year. I'm willing to judge still. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 14:56, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I had a great time judging last year, and would love to take a more lead-role as organiser/judge. Aza24 (talk) 16:50, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: (takes two steps back) okay  happy for you to don the captain's hat this year! And reporting for duty! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:45, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Great! Will get things set up soon. Aza24 (talk) 07:47, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: And obviously any questions you have we'll be happy to answer. Lead on! Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:53, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who wants to organise this year? 

message: Hi all! We're starting a little later than last year, but I think that 15 April to 31 May, like last year would be fine.
We'd still have a good three weeks to spread the word and rack up entries. Any thoughts? Aza24 (talk) 19:18, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I intend to participate, and this sounds good to me. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 21:59, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: A short lead-in time but doable. Need to get cracking on all fronts quickly though. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:29, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  submissions pages/alerts should probably be up in the next couple of days. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 23:45, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed! I will get on this. Aza24 (talk) 01:02, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  TCC 2024: Dates? 

message: Coretheapple (talk) 17:06, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Remsense诉 17:09, 25 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Great name

message: Are there any rules prohibiting the improvement of more than one article? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:52, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: They do not. The more entries, the more joy. Last year, we had two editors working on multiple articles: Artem G on various mars rovers, and Phlsph7 on knowledge/education. If the articles differ significantly in coreness, we'll put more emphasis on the changes in the more core artice :). Conversely, you're also allowed to work together on an article, which we saw often in the earlier contests. —Femke 🐦 (talk) 17:49, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: (Good to know.) Remsense诉 17:50, 28 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Actually, I'll put that out there now: does anyone maybe want to work on something together as well? Throw some ideas out there! Remsense诉 12:39, 6 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: Putting this here because I'm not sure how to "withdraw" from this. Before the contest started, I signed up with , which is an article I thought I would be able to improve in an adequate time frame. However, a third into the contest, and I do not think I will be able to properly improve the article, or at least do it justice. I also will be leaving the country in the last week and a half of the contest per a note I have left on my own talk page, which will limit my time. While I may improve this article one day on my own terms, I am requesting to withdraw from this years Core Contest. If this is not the place to ask to withdraw from, then I would like to know where the place to request that would be. λ NegativeMP1 06:15, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey @NegativeMP1, no worries! Thanks for your initial interest and honest evaluation of your time. Anyone is allowed to withdraw at any time; we just ask that you move your entry in Wikipedia:The Core Contest/Entries to Wikipedia:The Core Contest/Entries#Withdrawn entries. Best – Aza24 (talk) 18:46, 3 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requesting to withdraw 

message: So, I still have not been paid for last year's contest. I needed to register a new bank account that supported international payments, submitted the information to Karla Marte at wmuk at the beginning of May, and sent a reminder email earlier this week after hearing nothing back. She hasn't gotten back to me since. Did anyone else manage to get paid? (t · c) buidhe 14:43, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I did, a week or 2 ago, but I'm in the UK. It's not good. Mind you, I've had similar issues with US universities and small payments for research interviews etc. For the amounts involved you'd think they could just mail banknotes. Johnbod (talk) 15:44, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Similar problem for me. I sent them my banking information at the end of April and there hasn't been a transaction so far. Phlsph7 (talk) 15:49, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry to hear, but thank you all for reaching out. I'll follow up with WMUK to see if there has been a delay on their end, or if there's another reason. Aza24 (talk) 20:04, 24 May 2024 (UTC)

text: I gave up once it was clear that I had to divulge my personal information. There's a price where I'd trust the WMF with that, but it's higher than £35. Thebiguglyalien (talk) 02:08, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Here in the UK I just got Amazon vouchers (fine by me), so only my email was needed. But these can't be sent/used internationally, by what seems to me an odd Amazon quirk. It's remarkably difficult/expensive to make small international payments of actual money - odd when debit & credit cards are so efficient across borders. Johnbod (talk) 02:20, 25 May 2024 (UTC)

text: I agree, having to disclose personal information is an issue. Given all the other issues encountered so far, it would probably be best to not offer monetary rewards in the future and use barnstars instead. While the idea is nice in principle, the current process is too cumbersome to be worthwhile. Phlsph7 (talk) 06:45, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It wasn't a problem in previous years, afaik. Johnbod (talk) 03:41, 26 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it was either. We are currently waiting to hear back; if these issues persist, we'll look for alternative funding in the future. Aza24 (talk) 16:25, 26 May 2024 (UTC)

text:  I have also just claimed mine but I'm UK based so similarly was able to get an Amazon voucher without providing any personal details. Sammielh (talk) 11:10, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Payment issue 

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Monarchy                           	3  	>1/2M     	4942 	52        	6          	0
Turkey                             	3  	>8M       	11531	648       	-2041      	-37
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Federal Republic of Central America	5  	>200k     	9244 	387       	6574       	291
Edward Oliver LeBlanc              	5  	<100k     	2931 	119       	2679       	114
Independent music                  	5  	150k      	1784 	93        	-66        	67
Pakistan                           	3  	7M        	10800	661       	-2181      	12
Voltairine de Cleyre               	5  	<100k     	12864	419       	9692       	333
Love                               	3  	2M        	7087 	112       	1358       	19
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Antioch                            	4  	1/2M      	5954 	109       	9          	0
Nursing                            	3  	>1/2M     	3618 	141       	-5877      	-26
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Moscow                             	3  	>M        	15437	316       	-109       	7
Call of Duty                       	5  	3M        	4916 	100       	-14        	0
* Manually estimated, so maybe not consistent
Thanks everybody for your contributions! As always, a huge improvement in many of the articles here. There are a lot of entries this year, so we might take slightly longer than normal to come back to y'all.  —Femke 🐦 (talk) 07:42, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the helpful statistics. For the number of references, I think you are counting reference tags, at least I get the same count as you (175) for the article Mind. This article uses citation bundles, meaning that each reference tag may contain several individual citations, by my count 441 citations in total. This will probably also be an issue for the article Human history, which has 581 bundles with a total of 658 individual citations by my count. Phlsph7 (talk) 08:20, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's good to know! I'm very much looking forward to reading both! —Femke 🐦 (talk) 19:08, 1 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Words and references added table