Talk:Netherlands in World War II

message: *Article: :nl:Nederland in de Tweede Wereldoorlog
*Corresponding English-language article:  Netherlands in World War II
*Worth doing because: Not well covered in English wiki.
* Originally Requested by: Peking Duck 21:31, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: Sander1234 changed The poverty caused by the Great Depression helped the rise of Nazism in the Netherlands, saying that it didn't help the rise of nazism, adding that they got few votes. But that doesn't mean it didn't rise. That's determined by how much nazism there was before, and as far as I know nazism (at least under that name) didn't even exist earlier. So I changed that back, but left the addition. DirkvdM 06:49, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rise of Nazism 

message: Currently the article has four illustrations: one of a ruined Rotterdam, one of a statue of/for Anne Frank, and two related to collaboration with the occupying force. Somehow this seems totally out of whack for this article? 81.191.62.33 (talk) 23:31, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Choice of illustrations 

message: Please clarify 'Nazi Germany's occupation of the Rhineland' in the Interbellum section.  The Rheinland was, is and always has been a Land or province in Germany on its border with France, i.e., in Germany, part of Germany, Nazi-era or otherwise.  One doesn't 'occupy' one's own country.  The Treaty of Versailles had a French-inspired portion that said Germany could not station troops along the border, which Germany then did, but that's not an 'occupation.'
Last section on reprisals--Anne Frank and her family were in fact Germans, from Frankfurt am Main, the father having moved his business from Germany to Amsterdam.  Interesting to wonder if they then would have been deported by the Dutch post-war.72.81.16.200 00:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two edits 

message: "A German airborne landing at The Hague, intended to capture the Dutch royal family and the government failed and the troops that had not been killed were captured and shipped to Britain " —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.149.78.217 (talk) 06:38, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The German airborn troops were defeated by the Dutch, the surviving German troops were shipped to Britain by the Dutch.Rex 17:12, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Germans shipped Dutch to Britain? 

message: I've revised some portions of this article (which appeared to have been written by non-native English speakers), but I'm confused about some of these figures.  Here is a current portion from the article:
Some towns, such as Scheveningen, were evacuated because of this. In the Hague, 3,200 houses were demolished and 2,594 were dismantled. 20,000 houses were cleared, and 65,000 people were forced to move.
Is there some kind of distinction between a "demolished" house and a "dismantled" one, or are these two difference sources?  In other words, were there 5,794 homes taken down in The Hague, or just 3,200 (or 2,594)?  
Also, is the latter figure (20,000) for the Netherlands as a whole?  Thanks for anyone who can help.  Funnyhat 21:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Home demolition 

message: The Dutch Lieutenant-General Hendrik A. Seyffardt was called a low-level collaborator. Aoccording to the English Wikipedia he was a former head of the Dutch General Staff and headed the recruiting campaign for the Dutch elements of the Waffen-SS. This also explains the bloody repression that answers his killing. Calling such a person low-level is somewhat unfortunate. I changed the text and added some more context information. Let's hope the rest of the article is better researched. 
--Ft93110 (talk) 15:46, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hendrik A. Seyffardt 

message: I tidied up the statements about the Rhineland and also about hyperinflation in Germany. The German Mark had been stablilized in 1923-24. The severe depression of the early 1930s in Germany led to falling prices (as one would expect), not inflation. Norvo 17:08, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some tidying up 

message: :Image:4SSNL-PGDA1.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is  other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page.  Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot (talk) 04:22, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ...and the British Lee Enfield [1895]. The Lee Enfield MkIV was a 1930s redesign issued in 1939. Please don't insert information if you don't have the operational details.74.13.36.31 (talk) 20:38, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:4SSNL-PGDA1.jpg

message: Grebbegoos (talk) 23:14, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ...and the British Lee Enfield [1895]. The Lee Enfield MkIV was a 1930s redesign issued in 1939. Please don't insert information if you don't have the operational details.74.13.36.31 (talk) 20:38, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dutch weaponary and other May 1940 stuff 

message: This article should state that immediately after the Dutch surrender the German troops behaved surprisingly disciplined and did not harass/steal from/plunder/rape the Dutch population. Things grew gradually worse for the Dutch population, but that is another matter. Andries (talk) 08:34, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  And contrast this with the behaviour of Allied troops. --41.151.69.14 (talk) 20:15, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The Germans in 1940 had not recently entered Holland after a long series of bloody-battles all the way from Normandy. In 1940 Holland had been defended by the Dutch army. In 1944 that defending army the Allies had to fight was German and it didn't give up after five days. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.150.11.221 (talk) 12:38, 19 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Ommission: Behavior of German troops

message: Hi. When I type Fortress Holland for searching, Wikipedia redirects me to History of the Netherlands (1939–1945) (this article). Does it mean that Fortress Holland is used about the whole country or it is a place anywhere in Netherlands? --Djuneyt tr (talk) 16:40, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fortress Holland was the defensive plan in the early 1900s that failed to keep the Germans out in 1940. Maybe you should be redirected to Dutch_Water_Line#New_Dutch_Waterline Preslav (talk) 20:43, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fortress Holland 

message: The figure states more then 200.000. What is this comprised of? Does that include Jews deported to concentration camps? What about Dutch people killed in Allied bombing raids? --41.151.69.14 (talk) 19:56, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casualties 

message: I'm considering starting a new article on History of Wageningen (1939-1945), focused on that city's experience and history of WWII. If you have comments, ideas or suggestions for such an article, please make not of them under the appropriate section of Talk:Wageningen. Thanks, DA Sonnenfeld (talk) 18:42, 22 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of Wageningen (1939-1945) 

message: Should include references to numerous stories (especially former Dutch SS) who were used as "counterterrorism" experts in the anticolonial war in the Dutch East Indies in the late 1940s (also many fought in the Korean War, as part of a deal to regain Dutch citizenship).Historian932 (talk) 05:26, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  After the War 

message: According to historian Loe de Jong, there were staff conversation with the Allies. https://archive.org/details/LoeDeJongHetKoninkrijkDerNederlandenInDeTweedeWereldoorlogDeel02Neutraal ; Britain took a strange interest as well: https://archive.org/details/PreparationForBritishInterventionInHollandANDBelgium - I think there is far more in the archives. --154.69.55.10 (talk) 08:18, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: So? "What ifs" aside, the Netherlands did remain neutral. —Brigade Piron (talk) 10:35, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: As for the British plans, it is the job of the war planners to think ahead. In this case to figure out what Britain should do if Germany made war on the Netherlands and Belgium (as it did).  The answer was to hurt Germany as much is possible AFTER it invaded the neutral countries. Rjensen (talk) 10:52, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality of the netherlands is in dispute. 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on Netherlands in World War II. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130927220740/http://fundamentalbass.home.mindspring.com/x6860.htm to http://fundamentalbass.home.mindspring.com/x6860.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20051220045732/http://warmuseum.ca/cwm/newspapers/operations/netherlands_e.html to http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/newspapers/operations/netherlands_e.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 11:41, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Netherlands in World War II. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140912194153/http://www.beeldbankwo2.nl/index.jsp?action=setlocale&lang=en to http://www.beeldbankwo2.nl/index.jsp?action=setlocale&lang=en
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 23:20, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified