Talk:Philippe Kahn

message: >> I have followed up with the claims of so many. You'd think that if you created the first camera-phone that shared pictures with others, someone would have a picture. The only record of any such picture is the June 11th 1997 picture of Kahn's daughter Sophie. Tamburi and all others have none. For others than Kahn its like claiming to have created the camera and have no picture.>>  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.210.180.103 (talk) 11:22, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The first Camera Phone? Look for the pictures...

message: Is this page purely about the self promotion of Philippe Kahn? Quite a few of the claims made on the main page have a reference - but that reference is just something like "Kahn", or "Kahn, interview" or his own web site. I don't see many external or third party references backing up any of his claims -- SteveCrook 02:34, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Checking Neutrality

message: Having worked for Borland Intl. in the 90's, I have a little insight into the validity of the information about Phillipe. But first, I am a little disappointed in the quality of the comments from people who question the claims of this wiki entry. Just because something about someone you don't know seems better than you can imagine based on your own circle of friends, it does not justify casting doubt on the information. Find some REAL FACTS and then add them here.
Here are a few FACTS. I worked at Borland from July 1992 until May or June 1993, on version 5 of Quattro Pro for Windows. During this time, I learned a lot about our corporate leader, some personal and some public knowledge. I can tell you that the info about Phillipe's professional and musical careers to that point is true. Phillipe is an accomplished flautist and a marketing genius. When I arrived at Borland, the company was not doing so well, partly because of the consequences of their acquisition of Ashton Tate (dBase). Perhaps, more importantly, the company was going through some internal struggles, partly related to the issues between Phillipe himself and his estranged wife who, for better or for worse, was also a major stockholder in the company. Phillipe was away from the company, enjoying some private time when my employment began, but was called back to duty, in spite of the personal contention, to right the corporate sails. Phillipe came back and the morale, sales and stock prices went up.  Phillipe was also known for treating his employees VERY well. Each quarter, the company threw a catered feast at the local [name of hotel withheld].  This quarterly meeting was a business tool to share the corporate ideals, culture and vision in order to keep everyone inspired and working towards thee same objectives.  Phillipe also met with each development team personally and in small groups to discuss his vision of the Borland's future, how each team's efforts contributed to that vision and to field ANY issues that developers might have.  I left Borland the next year because I was making way too much money as a consultant to accept a permanent position, even in a company as great as Borland.  I was also fortunate enough to have been able to attend a concert at a local pub in Cupertino where Phillipe and one of the senior staff at Sun (whose name I have long forgotten) played at.  My point in sharing this information is not to make Phillipe's publicist's job easier, but simply to say this: Men who earn the admiration of the people around them do not need to rely on publicists to make their persona seem greater than it is. I don't know a single person I worked with who did not hold an equally high opinion of Phillipe.
Now, for all of you who want to speculate about whether this information is too good to be true - go get some facts and come back and talk to me. The only question about this wiki entry that I have is this: If Phillipe was 47 in 1962, that would make him 95 years old today. What the heck is this guy eating (or drinking)? I want some of it whatever it is.  Also, I can't speak to Phillipe's accomplishments since the 90's, but I have no reason to doubt them.  —Preceding personal knowledge comment added by Rlabston (talk • contribs) 01:37, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who are YOU to question things you know nothing about?. 

message: Editing to Clean-Up: We can use help any time! — Preceding unsigned comment added by HuskyMoon (talk • contribs) 09:29, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: New comments should be posted at the bottom, so I moved this down.  You also should read WP:TPO and understand "you should not edit or delete the comments of other editors without their permission." The proper way to cleanup is to archive.  Mojoworker (talk) 08:35, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: Looks like Kahn's birth year has been wrong since the error was introduced with this edit  by an IP editor over two and a half years ago. It appears people have tried to change it previously, but those changes have been reverted back to the incorrect version. See this New York Times 1991 article  where it states he was 39 in 1991. Also see his bio in A to Z of computer scientists: . I added a ref to the infobox, so hopefully it will stay correct going forward. Mojoworker (talk) 10:25, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I took out the birthdate because there are conflicting birthrates. This website seems current and informed. It says 1962.  http://www.memo.com/ HuskyMoon (talk) 08:31, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, no. When other editor's changed it to 1952, you kept reverting back to 1962 at least 7 times in the past year: , , , , , , , with no explanation in the edit summary nor here on the talk page (and you also marked those changes as minor edits), that sort of behavior looks like vandalism, even if that wasn't your intention. Why do you think memo.com is a reliable source as defined by Wikipedia? You need to read WP:RS and WP:V. There's no indication of who published the material at memo.com — are you claiming it's on par with the New York Times and Wired magazine and should outweigh the numerous reliable sources that say 1952? Mojoworker (talk) 08:01, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

text: Please. Numerous in-depth biographical articles in respectable books, newspapers, and magazines all say 1952, but because one tiny website of unknown provenance (for all we know, it could be run by an obsessed fan) says 1962 in one place, all bets are off, and we shouldn't say anything? Please see WP:UNDUE. Note also that several of these articles are reprinted in full on the Fullpower website, such as this 2005 interview in the NYT; surely if they had gotten his age wrong by 10 years, it would have been noticed and corrected. I'm restoring 1952 until someone produces comparably compelling evidence for 1962. Hqb (talk) 12:55, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthdate is 1952 (or 1962?)

message: I think there's way too much emphasis in the article on that camera phone thing (whether it was really the first one or not).  Kahn is surely far more famous for Borland than anything else.  The camera phone should be relegated to a sentence or two with a citation, lower down in the article, IMO. 64.160.39.72 (talk) 23:27, 5 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  camera phone 

message: I have sailed on a couple of boats Philippe owned, (both named Dolphin Dance) although he rarely personally sailed on them, and was active in the Santa Cruz sailing community.  Most of his regular crew considered him to be a poor helmsman.  He did have a very good boat manager who I sailed with extensively both on Dolphin Dance and boats owned by other people.  Any success he had should probably be attributed to his crew, since he certainly had no talent at this sport other than the (very important) ability to spend large sums of money.
My bother was a technical peon at Borland in the early '80's (prior to their going public) and Kahn was not at all generous in rewards to people who had helped Borland get to that point.  But, hey, that is another story.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jmsully (talk • contribs) 01:47, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sailing? 

message: I saw Phillipe Kahn at the West Coast Computer Fair in San Fransisco around 1982 or 1983 (so long ago I can't excatly remember). He was one of the guest speakers at some round-table talk, and I distinctly remember when it was his turn to talk, someone asked him why Turbo Pascal was so cheap (about $30) compared to Microsoft's compilers (about $180). He really got worked up about it and said something along the l ines of "I can tell you that I am making a huge profit on each and every sale. Microsoft is just plain greedy". I still get a smile about it to this day, how he got so mad that he was making a good chunk of change and Microsoft was just astronomical and worse quality generated code. I haven't seen any Borland compilers around for quite a while, but Microsoft is still putting out over-priced compilers that generate very sloppy and loose code, which explains a lot about the 'bloating' of code in Microsoft products, since they use their own compilers. 136.177.33.218 (talk) 19:50, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Borland Days 

message: For the paragraph were it says what Phillippe's parents did, it says that his father was.... Should it say his father is or was? I couldn't find his father online so can somebody with better knowledge about this subject check this out
Robert (talk) 02:36, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Philippe Kahn

message: The page provides very little details about Philippe Kahn's academic achievements. He holds the French maitrise
degree and AGREGATION de Mathematique certified by the French Academy of Sciences. His academic interest
was in pure mathematics with emphasis on number theory. Also he taught university math in Nice and Grenoble.
Spartakrz (talk) 16:53, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Academic Credentials

message: Philippe Kahn is an experienced developer as well. He wrote Micral's Sysmic (kind of OS) and ASMIC(assembler). 
Back in ETH Zurich days under Niklaus Wirth's guidance he took part in building the very first Pascal compiler 
for big machines. Also it was Philippe Kahn who wrote MicroCalc spreadsheet example to be shipped with Turbo Pascal 1.
Spartakrz (talk) 17:04, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Development Achievements

message: Mr Khan was an illegal alien for a number of years, he finally got a green card when it became an impediment to operating Borland
http://www.nytimes.com/1991/07/14/business/making-a-difference-from-bad-boy-to-big-business.html
A French-born math teacher turned programmer, the 39-year-old Mr. Kahn was an illegal alien when he founded Borland, an oversight that scuttled a planned merger with McGraw-Hill in 1985. He has since obtained a green card. 
(As the NYT published this, I dare any "Editor" to declare that a biased source or NPOV or any other typical complaint)
--Patbahn (talk) 23:45, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illegal Alien 

message: According to the article the famous picture was taken through the jury rigging of a cell phone with a digital camera. I would hardly call that a camera phone as we would consider it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by HBBorges (talk • contribs) 22:48, 5 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Really the first camera phone? 

message: The patents for philippe kahn mention DP Technologies Inc. What is the relation to fullpower?
Family Guy Guy (talk) 20:28, 22 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  philippe kahn patents show DP Technologies Inc