Talk:Kanō Jigorō

message: Also a member of the International Olympic Committee for Japan, Kano dreamed of including judo in the Olympic Games.
Although a member of the International Olympic Committee, wasn't Kano totally opposed to competition in Judo, including Olympic Games? The bios I've read about him totally contrast with what is said in the article.
: Fixed this information in the article. As many sources suggest (e.g. http://www.bstkd.com/JudoHistory/HistoryKano.htm, http://www.afma.upcsites.com/judo.html), Kano's interest in the olympic games was not related to a wish to have Judo included as a discipline.
IMO, he wasn't "totally" opposed, he just didn't want it to become the be-all and end-all that it became in the colleges, where the elite athletes got scholarships and the rest of the kids got to ride the bench. Also, in fairness, judo was slated to be an exhibition sport at the 1940 Olympics (alongside kyudo and kendo). The people who were pushing for the inclusion in the Olympic Games were the Germans before WWII, and the Europeans and Americans after WWII. From a Japanese standpoint, inclusion was a good thing, though, as it significantly inflated national medal counts. People say those don't matter, but for funding sources, they do. Joseph Svinth 01:53, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kano & Competition 

message: So what did he study to earn the title of Doctor? Fred26 19:51, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Man, he studied a lot of things. He was a scholar in the first place. He graduated from Tokyo Imperial University: From this external biography you can read: At the same time that he was developing his notions of a reformed jujutsu, Kano was a student at the Tokyo Imperial University, studying literature, politics and political economy. He graduated in 1881 and the following year became an instructor at the prestigious Gakushuin, or Peersí School, in Tokyo, a school for children of the nobility. Kano continued his lifelong involvement with academic education, earning a doctorate and eventually becoming Headmaster of the Tokyo Teachers' Training School. The same year that Kano became an instructor at the Gakushuin, he was ready to begin teaching his brand of jujutsu.  . Regards Loudenvier 02:17, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doctor of? 

message: The whole article comes from judoinfo with unclear permision.  I've started over on a temp page.Peter Rehse 05:26, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think too much people added content to this article so it seems a litle too drastic to lable it as a whole copyright infrigment, which is very unlikely given the number of contributions. A lot of content may come from judoinfo. But a lot of info, for example the facts about his possible assassination aren`t even mentioned on judoinfo. This tag must be taken with a grain of salt. Loudenvier 23:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright Flag and restart

message: I have changed some titles in the article: footnotes should read References, since that's what they are. The References section I've changed to Unassigned references because all those references aren't assigned to a specific place in the article by means of a 'ref' tag. Now the authors who used those references should correct that by properly linking to each of them using the ref tag, this way the article will be on its way to a better grading. Regards. Loudenvier 14:52, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unassigned references 

message: :I forgot to thank you and other contributors for improving this article so fast after it was tagged a copy-vio a few months ago. With a little patience and some effort we could even dream to make this a featured article in wikipedia. Kano is a very important historical figure for Japan, the world and specially anyone practicing Judo. Thanks! Loudenvier 18:33, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Directions 

message: - I added another quote describing his views on Olympic judo. A thought here. The article is getting long. What do you think of moving the section on the Kodokan's development to the Kodokan's own page? I think that might be more appropriate, and shorten this up. Joseph Svinth 10:07, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved text about, and added sources to the Kodokan section. Joseph Svinth 00:17, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving sections to [[Kodokan]] Page? 

message: I'm nominating this article for GA status. It needs some significant work, yet, to make FA class, but as it stands now, this article is at least as polished as Shinto Muso-ryu. I have only one problem with it, as follows. Bradford44 15:44, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Good Article Candidate

message: This was a tough review, but I enjoyed reading the article and found it informative and generally well written and researched. However, I'm putting it on hold for the following reasons:
* The one unfree photo, John Dewey, must have a fair-use rationale.
::The fair use rationale is that the picture illustrates the object in question.  I haven't had to deal with this before, though, so I'm not sure where I'm supposed to put that rationale. Bradford44 00:23, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The rationale itself goes on the photo's description page, :Image:John Dewey.jpg. Rationales must be handcrafted for each specific use of the photo, even though the use of that particular image is likely the same rationale in every instance. You only need to worry about its use in Kano Jigoro for the purposes of the GA review. I'm not sure why this particular photo can't be replaced by a public-domain image, but that's not really an issue that we need to deal with right now. For more details, see Help:Image page#Fair use rationale (don't know why it's buried there), and :Image:Vichit.jpg for an example of a fair-use rationale in action. — WiseKwai 13:08, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Bradford44 14:01, 22 June 2007 (UTC)

text: The lead was revised, can you offer offer an opinion on whether it is better now? Bradford44 17:21, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The intro is headed in the right direction, hitting on why Kano was important and what his accomplishments were, but it needs to be at least a couple paragraphs longer, in order to summarize the weight of the article. Can you add a few more specifics about his legacy, judo's importance, his educational theories and role in the Olympic games? — WiseKwai 19:22, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay, take a look at the next iteration of the introduction and also the current revisions to his educational philosophy. Joseph Svinth 03:52, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Moved "video footage" to "external links".  The only other meaningful external links that I can think of might point to specific judo organizations (such as the Kodokan), but my experience editing martial arts articles has taught me that once you add one martial arts organization, its a rapid slippery slope for the list to be filled with every organization or individual school for that style on the planet (frequently organized by country, city, etc..., with dozens of entries).  Also, revised the "see also" section, by removing the two links (which were alreadly linked to in the body of the article) and adding several for some judo-related concepts that were strongly influenced by Kano. Bradford44 14:20, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA on hold 

message: I have promoted this as a good article, because I believe it meets the good-article criteria.
I encourage this article's contributors to continue improving it.
Furthermore, I encourage the primary editors to consider reviewing other Good article candidates. — WiseKwai 12:46, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Good article promotion

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thread_title:  Auto-review 

message: On the one hand, we have: "When Kano attended the Tokyo Imperial University in 1877...", on the other hand, later on in the text, we have "Kano entered Tokyo Imperial University during June 1881." So when did Kano enroll in the University? The source already cited in the article (http://judoinfo.com/kano4.htm) states that Kano entered the University when he was 18, which would make it the year 1878. Does anyone have more reliable information on this topic?KlimChugunkin (talk) 18:53, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Go with the source, change both to 1878. --Nate1481 20:21, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think this source is too reliable. For example, it says that Kano graduated from the University in 1881 (contrary to what the article says). It means that he studied there for 3 years at most, which is dubious.KlimChugunkin (talk) 08:31, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hmm I'll have a look at the Kodokan and Tokyo Imperial University website (about as relabel as you can get on this) but 3 years is common for a 1st (bachelors) degree. --Nate1481 09:18, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Any news on this topic?KlimChugunkin (talk) 17:20, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Annoyingly The TIU dosen't mention him and no dates ar provided on the Kodokan site, I've also tired the IOC as he was heavily involved with the Olympic movement and the IJF websites, but no joy. --Nate1481 09:55, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A mistake with dates? 

message: Why is there a picture of a president in Jigoro Kano's page? Maybe nobody cares about it, since people want to know about Kano?
I could see there is no reference to Jigoro Kano in this president Ulysses's page.
Just remove what is not relevant about the article's subject.
201.19.33.69 (talk) 17:58, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree that Ulyssess's photo should be removed. Fayerman (talk) 14:32, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

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message: It seems Google has decided to celebrate Kanō Jigorō birthday on October 28th, but when looking at sources and simply googling the info, turns out his birthday is December 10th. It would seem people have changed the entry after the doodle, but this is obviously a mistake on Google's part.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gounter Rudolph (talk • contribs) 14:26, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The article already explains that his date of birth is different than the date his birthday is celebrated, and why. --Muhandes (talk) 15:57, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kanō Jigorō birth and Google's doodle 

message: Jigoro Kano's birth date is October 28th and not as written at the moment.
It is a well known date for Judo practitioners woldwide and even recignized by the IJF as the international Judo day.
See the information on the official IJF website: https://www.ijf.org/history/hall-of-fame/96 87.71.50.60 (talk) 15:49, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The article's body explain this discrepancy. Muhandes (talk) 15:55, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2021 

message: change his birth year from 1960 to the real date. He is not a time traveler 192.161.116.51 (talk) 21:28, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: Where does our article say 1960? I see 1860 listed as birth year Cannolis (talk) 21:49, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 October 2021 (2) 

message: Change birthday from 10 December 1860 to October 28, 1860. 
https://www.ijf.org/history/hall-of-fame/96 Judojon (talk) 03:46, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The page's protection level has changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. DigitalChutney (talk) 10:08, 29 October 2021 (UTC)

text: And please don't change the birthday without discussion. There is a source in the article for this date, and an explanation for the different day it is celebrated. --Muhandes (talk) 10:10, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 October 2021