Talk:Sussex

message: RE: Addition/deletion of external links
Parties involved
FujitsuBoy and User:Steinsky
Reason for dispute
Removal of my external links (declared as "spam" or "vandalism"), and addition of external links in breach of Wikipedia guidelines; e.g. http://www.britishcounties.org/sussex/
Steps taken thus far
I have e-mailed Steinsky in the hope of quietly resolving this dispute but with no reply.
As per Wikipedia:Talk_page and Wikipedia:Dispute_resolution this is my next step to resolving the dispute. I will also inform the Association of Members' Advocates. I have also provided a suitable edit to this and other Wiki pages in the hope of avoiding taking this dispute further.
FujitsuBoy 11:31, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dispute 

message: I am currently searching for any grammatical errors in the article; trying to fix it and impropve the thing to Good article-status. Randalph P. Williams 08:56, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's class 

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message: I removed the following paragraph as it did not make sense.
Dry valleys are a feature of the Downs. One in particular,  known as Devil's Dyke, north-west of Brighton, is a popular tourist and outdoor sports venue, although it isn't a "dry valley". It was created by geological action.
It mentions dry valleys on the Downs, a statement which does need elaborating on. It does this by citing an example which, as the statement confesses, is not a dry valley. MortimerCat (talk) 00:23, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dry Valley 

message: Yes, I know its about Sussex! My question is what should go into this article, and what goes into the East/West Sussex articles. Should the East/West just concentrate on the items relevant to them, and any shared items go in the Sussex?
For example:
*Towns and villages to go in East/West, removed from Sussex.
*Antiquities in the East/West, removed from Sussex
*Climate in the Sussex, removed from East/West
MortimerCat (talk) 00:35, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is this article about? 

message: There has been a bit of an edit-war with the flag so I am starting a debate.
Flag 1	Flag 2
300px 	300px
Flag 1 was the winning entry in a BBC competition to design a Sussex flag. As far as I can tell there has been no official adoption. I cannot find anything relating to flag 2.
See also Flag of Sussex and Coat of arms of Sussex.
My opinion is not to have a flag, it is not an official emblem. MortimerCat (talk) 06:51, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sussex Flag 

message: I hesitate to bring this up again, after the possible wikilawyering in the post at the top of the page, but very few of the current crop of external links seem to conform to the guidelines. I'm inclined to implement a fairly vigorous trim, subject to other editors' views.  --Old Moonraker (talk) 15:08, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree - most of the links can go. In fact, possibly all of them can go (though I haven't evaluated each one as yet).--A bit iffy (talk) 16:35, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Not one of them met the WP:EL criteria so I deleted the lot. --Old Moonraker (talk) 10:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links: a bit overcrowded now? 

message: means?can geo-map be incl.?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sven70 (talk • contribs) 03:42, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Druv 

message: I was wondering if anyone could verify the claim of Lancing being the largest village in the UK, only Cranleigh in Surrey make a similar claim, which I believe has been verified? Bluebellnutter (talk) 15:16, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lancing 

message: "The Weald ... retains the highest proportion of ancient woodlands in the country." This sounds very plausible, but could do with some evidence: does anyone have a source?  ~dom Kaos~ (talk) 21:47, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The cultural heritage of woodlands in the South East. Section 2:The cultural heritage of woodlands in the High Weald AONB - Forestry Commission book by  Nicola R. Bannister  available online, see page 14 for detail.Wilfridselsey (talk) 08:56, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Ancient woodland

message: We have been having a dispute whether it should be a historic county or an historic county. 
An is used before nouns or adjective noun combinations beginning with a vowel sound and a is used before nouns and adjective noun combinations beginning with a consonant sound. 
eg:
an hour and a half
 
Note that with most adjectives and nouns beginning with the letter h, the h is pronounced, making it a consonant sound. Where the h is silent as in honest and hour, these words start with a vowel sound, thus requiring an rather than a before the adjective or noun:
 
The word historic takes the indefinite article a/an depending upon its pronunciation. 
If pronounced is-storic then "an historic".
If pronounced his-storic then "a historic".
Both forms are correct, in which case we should stick with what the original editor wrote. ie: an historic county. In any case An historic is the more common form in British English.Wilfridselsey (talk) 10:49, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Citing The Cambridge Guide to English Usage: either is acceptable, with "an historic" regarded as "a stylistic nicety". Through courtesy, otherwise unproductive editors should avoid picking on the original contributor's perfectly correct stylistic niceties. --Old Moonraker (talk) 10:06, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: ''an'' the indefinite article

message: In the "Saxon Kingdom" section the following is written concerning Aelle.
"He was probably the most senior of the Anglo-Saxon kings and led the ill-fated campaign against King Arthur at Mount Badon."
a) The "probably" is a giveaway that the statement has no foundation.
b) Campaigns against a legendary figure do not have a place in a section on "History" - especially with no source!
I will remove this if there is no objection. Doug (at Wiki) 15:06, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  History?? 

message: I followed the link supplied in the reference (thanks) for this new addition, and found that the event was a "bread and cheese supper" for members of local preservation group ("Members £3", non-members £5"). It doesn't seem encyclopaedic or notable, and I propose a revert. --Old Moonraker (talk) 20:11, 29 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hillaire Belloc night 

message: This edit removed five sections from the article, suggesting that they "more properly belonged" elsewhere. If this item is to have any claim to be a comprehensive account, it can't be left without a mention of industry. If dealt with elsewhere, a summary needs to be here, with a WP:SS link to the subsidiary article. --Old Moonraker (talk) 13:47, 8 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mass blanking  

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message: The coordinates that I've added are approximately on the border between the modern counties of East Sussex and West Sussex and positioned very approximately halfway north-south in the historic county. Ordinarily, the coords might go on the county town, but there are at least three arguable claimants for being the county town of historic Sussex (Lewes, Chichester, and Horsham, in descending order of strength of claim). This puts the coords in about the middle of the county and avoids either modern county from having pride of place. (I would have preferred to put the coords exactly on the border at , but anything more than whole degree coordinates would be far too precise for an area this size.) Regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 16:07, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinates 

message: :If an average household comprised seven individuals at that date, the total population would be 150,759. 
This is horrible, borderline OR methodology. As a best guesstimate I can find, Tony Wrigley's paper English county populations in the later 18th century, which follows a number of equivalent studies and I think is available online, gives it a little bit over 100,000 in 1761. From checking various swiss and french sources, the common estimate for a feu is 4.5 to 5.5, maybe 6 (with the note that not every household was submitted to the fouage; some french provinces obviously had a fouage far under its actual population when we see early republican census returns), and even these estimates were often slightly increased by what the french government called "double count" which counted people with multiple residences as separate individuals in each of the communes where they lived. 199.180.97.243 (talk) 07:49, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It is speculation and original research and you are right to remove it.--Charles (talk) 09:48, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Population note

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thread_title:  External links modified 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I took this out of toponymy -
The Latin word Suthsex was used for Sussex by Dutch cartographer Joan Blaeu in his 1645 map.
because the link doesn't show the map. I wonder if it needs to be in the article at all, though. Isn't Middle English from Latin? Tony Holkham (Talk) 09:00, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps a hoax? Suth-, Latin? 'Th' is not used in Latin, it is Greek, theta. If used in Roman script it would be in another language. Roger 8 Roger (talk) 10:13, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin name 

message: Maps in the relevant volume of the British official history shows clearly that Sussex was well defended by first-rate British and Canadian Army units as late as May 1942: this is obviously logical, as it was the most vulnerable area of the UK to a German invasion or hit and run raids. From May 1942 there was little risk of invasion or raids, and defences were downgraded to second-rate army units. However, this area remained heavily garrisoned from at least 1943 as the Allied invasion forces were built up there. The sources you're drawing on appear to be of lesser quality - for instance, noting that the Sussex regiments were elsewhere is not relevant as British Army units have never been tied to their geographic recruiting/naming areas. I've replaced this with references to the official history. Nick-D (talk) 23:52, 1 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: - I think that you misread the description. It was about coastal defences, not about forces garrisoned in Sussex at the time. The Canadian engineers  helped build the nodal defence system and it was this that was manned by the home guard backed up by the Canadians. It was very specific, you have replaced it with a more general point which I think actually works better. Regards. Wilfridselsey (talk) 08:02, 2 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Second World War defences

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message: It is apparent to all who take so much as a glance at the edit history that the historical county of Sussex has had a rather... prominent problem with vandalism.
We all know why that is, it needs no discussion.
The article should probably be locked for now to prevent further separation of the county's name in twain.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.251.179.210 (talk) 18:36, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah it needs to have at least semi-protection because of that. I find it a bit funny that this article isn't already protected because of the name alone. Washing Machine (alt) (talk) 17:53, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I added it to WP:RPP/I Washing Machine (alt) (talk) 17:59, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalization problem