Talk:Kung Faux

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I didn't make the NPOV review nomination, but I do agree with it. The article seems awfully link heavy, and it reads like a press release. I attempted to clean up the article a bit, but I feel it still needs more work. Do all of the networks it's ever aired on really need to be listed? Do the paragraphs with nothing but links to artists who influenced the show really contribute to the article? I'm not confident enough to start hacking up those portions, although I do feel they're unnecessary. - ep 20:52, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV Dispute 

message: I didn't make the NPOV review nomination, but I do agree with it. The article seems awfully link heavy, and it reads like a press release. I attempted to clean up the article a bit, but I feel it still needs more work. Do all of the networks it's ever aired on really need to be listed? Do the paragraphs with nothing but links to artists who influenced the show really contribute to the article? I'm not confident enough to start hacking up those portions, although I do feel they're unnecessary. - ep 20:52, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: As a fan of the show, I found this page shortly after it was created; I think by the same IP as the Dubtitled article.  I added the infobox and uploaded the screenshot.  This article had a "promotional" feel to it then, and it does today, so the NPOV flag doesn't surprise me.  However, some of that is style; most of the information is relevant, though I would suggest breaking the article into sections, with the series description in the lede and seperate bits on background and DVD releases.
As far as the NPOV goes:
* Kung Faux creator Mic Neumann and his companies [...] launch of a magazine called "NYLON".
This whole paragraph is only tangential to Kung Faux, and belongs in the Dubtitled article, not here.  That article has similar style issues; it is written like marketing material, not an encyclopedia article (I have no problem with its general existence).
* ...inspired by the "Skull & Chopsticks" logo...
I don't recall seeing this logo in the TV show (but have not seen the whole series or the web/DVD versions).  If this logo is something new just for bentobox.tv, then it isn't relevant enough to Kung Faux to warrant detailed discussion in this article.  If it is as prominent in the show as is described, and I just missed it, then so be it.  As far as the "Death Proof" connection (which seems to have had lots of edits and reverts), I'd like to see some sort of citation to back this up.  The HUGE ® on the logo at bentobox (the only image there so marked) raises an eyebrow, as though there is a conflict external to Wikipedia that is being argued here.  I have not seen the movie, so I have no opinion on the smiliarity of the 2 logos.   I notice a comparable claim on the Dubtitled page regarding the Killers logo (and do see the similarity there).  If there is a legal dispute or something, this isn't the place to argue it - though an unbiased factual mention that a dispute exists would be admissible.
I think (re)moving the first item, and rewriting/justifying the second, would settle the NPOV concern.
Responding to ep's comments above, the first list of artists names those that actually appeared on the show as voice-actors, so that seems reasonable.  Removing the paragraph I mentioned covers all the artists who are only connected to Dubtitled but not Kung Faux specifically.  As historical data, I don't have a problem with the list of networks, but it is tedious reading and should probably be further down in a detail section.
The CyberSlug 22:17, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another opinion 

message: Thank you to "The CyberSlug" for caring enough to actually look into the article and see the links to artists were there because they INFLUENCED the show, they were there because they actually participated in the show and often list KUNG FAUX in their credits.
I feel that the person nominating all of my relevant articles for deletion or who has simply deleted them wholesale as judege & jury in the "Hack it up" style that "(ep) aka EricPeden" is hesitant to do ( thankfully ) such as the one about me, Mic Neumann aka Michael "Mic" Neumann, Kung Faux, Dubtitled & now Dubtitled Entertainment, and Skull & Chopsticks needs to be looked at closely, because everytime I tried to make changes he or she would just delete everything I did & even go as far as to delete me from other articles that I linked to because I was mentioned.
I agree that my writing style can take on a promo feel & I welcome constructive edits, and formatting, as I am not an expert at working with Wikipedia and entries, but I am trying to get better, and I can find a hundred pages that are more poorly done than mine ( or maybe I should say as poorly as mine ), but where are the editors that find hacking up articles fun for these other articles.
I seem to get attacked every time I try to update an article with new information that I think people researching the articles might find relevant as I am at the center of the things being written about in these articles and know first hand what happened, and I can see where the need for more citations are better, but I find it odd that if I am related to a source website, the citation runs a risk of being deleted, yet if someone that was thought not to be associated pulled the same info from that same website, it would likely be cited and left alone.
All I can say here in closing is "Thank You" to "The CyberSlug" again for knowing what was relevant and speaking up along with the healthy criticism, and "thank you" to "(ep) aka EricPeden" for not "hacking up my article further, and finally,...
I hope an Admin is noticing that the person nominating this article for deletion did not leave anything on this talk page, he or she just deleted things wholesale from the article & then threw up all of the warnings & request for deletion. - Does that seem fair to anyone ?
Knowing how to do everything right went it comes to Wikipedia entries feels like knowing how to drive a Formula 1 race car when I can barely ride a bike, but does that mean I should be run over by a bus ?
Sincerely, Michael "Mic" Neumann aka Mic Neumann aka ( squeezedot )  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Squeezdot (talk • contribs) 02:10, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mic Neumann the Creator of Kung Faux's opinion 

message: Would it be appropriate to add a section about which films were used in the Kung Faux episodes. The only one I was able to find out so far is that 'Mini Lee' is based on 'Bruce Lee We Miss You'. 90.192.98.188 (talk) 20:11, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movies used in Kung Faux episodes 

message: Unfortunately the previous sections of the article regarding "episodes" and their related "movies" referred to above, as well as the "Skull and Chopsticks" section of the article referred to by The CyberSlug and the "Kung Faux" logo that was repositioned into the box by The CyberSlug near the top of the page were completely deleted by another editor before any further discussion or consensus could be met, and no further attempts to address these sections of the article were made. An attempt was made to create a new "Skull and Chopsticks" article, but that article was also immediately deleted by the same editor, along with the entire Dubtitled article which was active at the time it was "cited" by The CyberSlug above. - Sincerely, Mic Neumann 50.14.3.215 (talk) 06:40, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: More Unilateral Deletions

message: "Critically acclaimed" doesn't go in the lead for any film or TV articles. Also, it only applies when a large number of critics, especially notable ones, heap plaudits. Also, removed "entrepreneur", again. Also, replaced all redundant job titles with "created". Dubious source tagged: doesn't seem to be reliable, or notable. --Lexein (talk) 21:16, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promo removed again 

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