Talk:John Whittle

message: Bryce, mainly just did everything direct. Of course the prose is already extremely good and probably wouldn't fall foul of FAC in any case, but there were places where a few words less would seem to suffice. Just a few bits to discuss:
*You might consider a subection Early service at the start of the WWI section, to balance the Later service after Victoria Cross - just a thought though, don't think it's vital.
**Done. Abraham, B.S. (talk) 00:03, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Does very much so. Thanks, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 00:03, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just one note though; I hope you don't mind, but I changed back your copy-edit in regards to the announcement of Whittle's DCM in the London Gazette in order to remain consistant with what I have done in other Aus VC bios, but also because I find it slightly more informative. Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 05:12, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No prob at all - I look fwd to the FAC...! Cheers, Ian Rose (talk) 09:14, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! Abraham, B.S. (talk) 09:27, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pre-FAC copyedit 

message: G'day Bryce, and anyone else who is watching. Referring Ivan Whittle, article says he was "killed when the B-24 Liberator aircraft he was travelling in crashed into a marshalling yard at Port Moresby, New Guinea, on 7 September 1943"... Is it correct that he was a passenger in the Liberator? Unfortunately, I don't have the cited source (Gliddon), but can this be checked please? I say this, because I think it might be slightly confused. On 7 September, a large number of 2/33rd Battalion personnel were killed when a Liberator crashed into trucks that they were carrying the battalion, so I feel it is unlikely that Ivan was a passenger in the Liberator. Of course, I could be wrong, but I figure I'd ask anyway. Thanks for your time. Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 09:29, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Rupert. Gliddon is a little vague, but implies that Ivan Whittle was on the Liberator: "Another son Ivan, was killed in an aircraft accident when his Liberator bomber crashed...". I checked Staunton's Victoria Cross (2005), and he seems to confirm that Ivan was aboard the Liberator. This is where it gets a little murky as I then checked Whittle's ADB entry (non-committal), Wigmore's They Dared Mightily (1963) and Michael C. Madden's recent The Victoria Cross: Australia Remembers (2018). The latter two agree with what you were thinking: Ivan was among those in the marshalling area when the aircraft crashed. Given the discrepancy, I checked the 2/33rd Battalion unit diary. In it is a report on the accident, which states that the Liberator took off from Jackson's Aerodrome nearby and was carrying eleven US Army personnel when it crashed into the marshalling area. Ivan Whittle is listed among the personnel "missing" as a result of the accident. In light of this, I think we can take it as confirmed that he was killed while among the trucks in the marshalling area. I'll amend the article accordingly. Thanks for picking up on this, Rupert! Cheers, Abraham, B.S. (talk) 05:35, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for following up. Nice work on the article, by the way! Cheers, AustralianRupert (talk) 07:29, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Son's death