Talk:Barb horse

message: Abaco barb section is pretty unencyclopedic with lots of flowery and emotional adjectives that make it sound real POV.  May want to tone down the language and be more NPOV.  Slapped it with the "peacock" tag.  Not a crisis, but needs to be fixed.  Montanabw 02:23, 10 July 2007 (UTC)

message: Wow! Great job! I love what you all did with the page! Right on! :D --Cher <3 (talk) 23:52, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nice 

message: It is so said about the abaco barb though  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.159.159.178 (talk) 03:31, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awesome 

message: the article mentioned "bereber muslim" peoples invading north africa, and bringing this horse.
this is not possible at all. the bereber people, and their horses- were the aboriginal people of north africa
at the time of the muslim expansion- the 8th century as cited.
i decided to simply remove the bereber reference, so now it is clear that the bereber people where there already when islam arrived  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.135.108.254 (talk) 10:22, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  explanation 

message: The Abaco horses being call Barb is a  relatively new concept ( less than 20 years ) , it is generally accepted that the horses are decedents of the logging horses that were used to haul logs at the Normans Castle logging operation that ended in the early 1900's  , after the operation ended they released the horses , and livestock . The farm where the horses were living on is only 1 mile from the old Normans castle lumber camp .
There is no evidence that the Spanish ever colonized Abaco or the Bahamas ...see wiki Bahamas history .
A DNA test showing a genetic link to Spanish horses is inconclusive , and cannot be used to prove a theory about a shipwreck hundreds of years ago . — Preceding unsigned comment added by Abaconian (talk • contribs) 
:What we need are sources one way or the other. Can you provide any URLs or other evidence for this? I'm all ears if you can meet verifiability of your information Montanabw(talk) 04:24, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: For reference, additional material was included in this edit, but we need better sources per WP:OR.  Montanabw(talk) 04:26, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Abaco Barbs

message: In a history book I'm reading, it states that a 13th English lord paid for one hundred "barbed horses". By this does it mean Barb horses, or is a barbed horse something else? And would Barb horses have been available in 13th century England? Zacwill16 (talk) 11:50, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Possibly a Barb or Barb type, yes.  I'll see if  agrees, she's a medieval expert and a horse expert.  And maybe ... the Barb horse (as well as the Arab horse) would have come to Europe with the  Arab invaders, and Battle of Tours was in 732, so time for the type of horse to disperse.  What "history book" is this?  Fiction or non-fiction??  Montanabw(talk) 04:18, 11 July 2015 (UTC)

text: Without context, it's more likely that we're talking about some sort of armor or something else. Barding or barded would be my first guess, before assuming that it was referring to a type of horse. Ealdgyth - Talk 12:26, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: See, this is why I pinged Ealdgyth!  Montanabw(talk) 05:52, 12 July 2015 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the answer. The context is here, a book on the seals appended to the Barons' Letter of 1301. Zacwill16 (talk) 17:09, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, that's "barded" horses... i.e. wearing horse armor. Not at all the same as "Barb" horses. Ealdgyth - Talk 17:20, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Letter reversals.  Gotta love 'em!  Thanks for straightening that out, E!  You rock! Montanabw(talk) 06:26, 16 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barbed horses 

message: , you've proposed a merge, but haven't given any reasons here. Anyway, I absolutely oppose such a merge – as far as I'm aware, the only thing the two breeds have in common is the word "barb" (we've already got a completely spurious block of stuff about the Abaco Barb here, apparently for the same reason, which I'll deal with in a moment). That's assuming that the Spanish Barb is in fact a breed; if it's just another name for a Spanish Colonial Horse, then wouldn't that be the appropriate merge/redirect target? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 16:58, 4 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've answered over in the Spanish Barb article (sorry to mess this up).  You make a good point about the Abaco Barb. I think we could clean this article up to be about the North African Barb exclusively... I don't know the right solution to the other, but we can discuss that at the Spanish Barb article. Montanabw(talk) 21:15, 6 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge discussion 

message: Article should be updated based on new research adding to the strong evidence that the Akhal/Teke/Turkoman, not the Arabian, is the breed of foundation stallions of the modern Thoroughbred.
“Contrary to popular belief, we could detect no significant genomic contribution of the Arabian breed to the Thoroughbred racehorse, including Y chromosome ancestry.”
“Recently... an analysis of horse Y chromosome haplotypes has indicated that the Y haplotype of the “Darley Arabian” actually originated from the Turkoman[/Akhal-Teke] horse, an ancient breed from the Middle East and Central Asia that is... also an “Oriental” type breed.”
“Five of the race-use [Arabian] horses carried the Tb-oB1* haplogroup attributed to the “Byerley Turk” foundation sire of the Thoroughbred breed. Tb-oB1* is found within a variety of breeds and lineages, including the Turkomen[/Akhal-Teke]. Therefore, these five horses may carry Y chromosomes derived from ancestors common to both racing Arabians and the Thoroughbred breed.”
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-020-66232-1 Greenineugene (talk) 16:34, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inaccurate with regard to role of Arabians in creating the Thoroughbred, which seems somewhat spurious anyway.