Talk:History of Cyprus

message: There is no mention of Phoenician colonization, only Greek.  Kition at least should be mentioned.
D.E. Cottrell 09:51, 7 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Phoenicians, Kition

message: There is also no mention of Khirokitia. It must be one of the oldest archeological sites in the island (around 6000BC).
Anarxia 11:17, 2 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Khirokitia

message: Publius Claudius Pulcher here is certainly not the same as in the Battle of Drepana. Any Romanist who can disambiguate  this? --217.245.191.165 15:19, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Publius Claudius Pulcher

message: This page is getting pretty long. Does it make sense to break it into three sub-sections, corresponding roughly to
# Prehistory
# Ancient history
# Modern history
We could keep the chronology section then give links to the new sections, maybe with a synopsis paragraph for each.
Mmm 03:17, Jun 5, 2004 (UTC)
: good idea. Could we somehow link it like the history of France series? I was never very happy with the chronology section. It might be a good idea to incorporate some of the material into the text and reduce it to a chronological table with only short text - lots of work, of course
--Yak 10:31, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  page reorg 

message: Someone should summarize the pre-1960 Cyprus history in a few paragraphs and add it to Cyprus#History. TIA. --Joy [shallot] 21:27, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  summary for the main page 

message: Pre-1571 Cyprus history added. Pro-Turkish historical inaccuracies corrected.
*re Cypro-Cretan period etc.: should mythology and history not be kept apart? I find this melange extremely annoying and uninformative
::The Greeks believed it to be history and showed the graves and ancestor temples of these people to visitors. All the kings of Cyprus could trace their ancestry back to Teucer, Agapenor and Kinyras and even the bible mentions one of the Kinyradae, Kethimus (Kittim). From Pygmalion the chronology follows Ovid's Metamorphosis, Apollodorus Bibliothiki and Jerome's Chronicon. Prior to that it follows Plato (Symposium, Critias, Timeaus).
Greek sources partly moved to Ancient Greek History of Cyprus.
:There is still no summary of this article at Cyprus. --Wetman 02:59, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  RE: summary for the main page 

message: "1974: On 15 July the military government (junta) in Greece with the support of the CIA and American national security advisor Henry Kissinger orders a coup by the Greek National guard to overthrow Makarios who they see as being too pro-Russian."
This isn't a place for Hitchens' claims, though I personally don't know the extent of the accuracy of this statement. In any case the Greek junta had their own nationalist agenda for provoking the coup, so mentions of CIA support for said junta is out of place in this context. The junta's opposition to Makarios certainly wasn't Cold War-related stuff like "too pro-[Soviet]" J. Parker Stone 07:55, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Kissinger and the CIA

message: This is virtually overlooked by everyone. Prior to 1963, the Turkish Cypriots owned over 30% of the land, by the time they had moved into enclaves they were in possession of just 3% of the land. It is false to say that they did this to deprive the Greek Cypriots of rent and labour. I have spoken to many people that moved into the enclaves and they all owned houses and land, and left behind the villages they had lived in for generations.
--Son of the Tundra 09:10, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been doing some reading and what it seems that the reason for the enclaves is that the Turkish Cypriots were getting ready for partition from such an early time in Cyprus' independence, the reason why the TMT were insistant in uprooting their people out of their homes.  If this is true, then why would the Greek population help in the process if this would have led to the exact opposite of what they wanted, Takism.  And that is what happened, isn't it?  You're thoughts and KNOWLEDGE please, not your emotions so we can finally fix this debated issue.
Fact: Turkish Cypriots lived in enclaves for 11 years, from 1963 to 1974.
Fact: The enclaves were embargoed by the Greek Cypriot authorities.
Fact: The UN attempted to provided food and medicine to the Enclaves.
It seems wholly reasonable to include these facts in the timeline. 
--Son of the Tundra 08:23, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movement of Turkish Cypriots into Enclaves 

message: I eliminated this section, as: a) the information does not seem deserving of its own section, at least not one at the very begining, b) the information is covered eslewhere under etymology, and c)the name of the section implies a discussion of the name of Cyprus, not that of copper. Israelite9191 22:13, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The name

message: In response to a Greek-backed coup attempting to unify the island with Greece
Is this true? Citation, source? Logictheo (talk) 12:23, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is disputed. Turkey stated this as the official reason (to protect TCs from the Greek Junta). Ioannidis (the Junta dictator) stated that the USA had made it clear to him that no intervention from Turkey would come, and accused the US for betrayal. Other historians state that Turkey had plans for the invasion of Cyprus for years and was just looking for an excuse. And even more complex analyses refer to the Cold War, and the USA's interest in ending the confrontation between Greece and Turkey over Cyprus, because it could lead to a war that would destabilize USA's influence over the Mediterranean sea, allowing the Soviets to move south and attempt to gain further influence and even a direct access point to the Mediterranean (a strategic goal of the Russians since the Tsars). In this context the division of Cyprus into 2 parts indicates a de-facto solution to the above dilemma. It is a complex subject.--Tco03displays (talk) 20:53, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  modern age history Greek coup 

message: Hi all
I have just tagged the section with a confusing/unclear tag
There are many references to LC IIc and LCIB etc. which confuse even me and I am fairly au fait with dates and ages.
I have asked one of my friends, a Doctor of Archaeology to get involved with this but it may be a while before he can spare enough time to make a difference.
Is it possible that someone in the meantime could make/design a time-line as well as going through and standardising the dates
I suggest using LC IIB (1200 BCE) or similar at the start of the paras so that those unfarmiliar with LC IC and LC IB can easily see to which dates they refer.
I will attempt to do some myself but do not wish to make mistakes that would leave to even more confusion
Thanks --Chaosdruid (talk) 05:52, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline 

message: There seems to be about 400 years of history missing between the 15th and the 19th centuries.
I can guess why this might be, but don't know as I don't know much about the specific history of Cyprus.  I guess there may be some dispute about specifics, but if we can manage pages for other parts of the world, can't we do so for Cyprus?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.111.27.50 (talk) 15:36, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup - the Ottoman section has disappeared. I have recreated the section header and will start to fill it later. I have already put a synopsis of the Enosis roots. Chaosdruid (talk) 23:29, 9 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing 400 Hundred Years 

message: Excellent article, really enjoyed it.  It captures the full sweep of Cypriot history but for the Ottoman period which just has a link.  For the casual reader might it be better if there was a summary of Ottoman rule with a link, rather than just a link?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.127.31.226 (talk) 17:11, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Ottoman Cyprus

message: I notice that there is a slow edit was going on.
The issues that I can see mentioned so far are:
#Poor English on the part of the new editor User:ΣΠΑΡΤΙΑΤΗΣ (Spartiates). In particular, I note a confusion between the verbs  "leave" and "live". This should be something that is fixable. 
#The lack of sources. I think Spartiates is trying to mention one in the edit summaries. Maybe if he/she could mention it here, someone could attempt to put it into a Wikipedia format. I also note that some of the text he/she removed is unreferenced. As it has been challenged, it needs referencing.
#Allegedly anti-Greek propaganda. I have heard that archeology in Cyprus is quite politicised and that archeologists who want to excavate non-Greek pre-historic sites are much more able to do this in the North than in the South. The measure of what should be included is not which side in the current political disputes it most suits but what is available in WP:Reliable sources and that information should receive WP:DUE weight.
#I also notice that the section as a whole has been tagged since February 2009 as rather inaccessible.  
Are there any other issues that I have missed?--Peter cohen (talk) 22:11, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slow edit war 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :History of Cyprus's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "ReferenceC":
From Kition: Excerpt of text on the only plaque at the Kathari site (as of 2013).
From History of North Korea: 
From History of India: Oxford History of India – Vincent Smith
From Foreign relations of Cyprus: 
From Greek War of Independence: Brewer, David The Greek War of Independence, London: Overlook Duckworth, 2011 pages 169.
From Bronze Age: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 14:38, 12 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:History of Cyprus]] 

message: In the article of Raynald of Châtillon it is said that he plundered the island in 1155/6: Cyprus would never entirely recover from the devastation that Raynald's and Thoros's marauding raid caused. If someone has the knowledge, it would be nice to have this mentioned on this page, as well as the extent of the damages done if there are any sources.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Orgyn (talk • contribs) 21:01, 3 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plundering by Raynald of Châtillon