Talk:Geography of kendo

message: I think merging this with the main page would make it too long.  Unless anyone comes up with some justification for merging, I will remove the merge tag in a couple of days.
Samrionbrijgoah: why do you want to merge the pages?
Francis Bond (talk) 02:11, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging 

message: I removed the following stamp, as I believe the concern to be unjustified, for the reasons laid out below:
  dated prod|concern = mostly linkspam; the little text there is should remain in the main kendo article|month = December|day = 15|year = 2007|time = 01:45|timestamp = 20071215014510
* it isn't linkspam: the pages linked to are relevant to show the spread of Kendo throughout the world.   Some of the links are also annotated with more information, and I expect more will be over time.
* The main kendo article is quite long, and already not so focussed, there isn't room for discussion of how and where it is practiced.  This information was taken out from the main page some time ago.
* One of the most common edit/revert cycles to the main kendo page is people adding links to national organizations, and them being removed --- people using wikipedia want this information.  It was added to within 24 hours of being created.
* As I said in the comment when I made this page, it is inspired by the Football (soccer) around the world page.  This has at least the same discussion to link ratio as there, so I consider it to be within accepted practice.
Francis Bond (talk) 15:13, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why this page was created (and why it shouldn't be deleted) 

message: Can we somehow merge the list for Europe - I am thinking of pointing to the EKF list for links and mentioning the few independent organizations.  There are a few extra countries listed in this articles European list that I suspect are also members of EKF that should be moved over there.  Prose is always better than lists.Peter Rehse (talk) 06:43, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not redirect the EKF to here?  That way we will lose the redundancy and keep all the organizations in the same place.  But I have no really strong opinion.  Re prose/list I think it is good to keep things as lists here, it is easier to see the length and look for individual items in a list than prose.  Francis Bond (talk) 12:47, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That could work - we would have to flag EKF members somehow.  I have no inherent bias against Lists but admittedly against lots of outside links and definately when there is a level of duplication.  Peter Rehse (talk) 13:26, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the list in the article European Kendo Federation is an unnecessary duplication of the list in the article Kendo around the world. Kontoreg (talk) 23:22, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Done via a redirect.  Added a link to the european Kendo Association to avoid circular redirect and removed the merge tag.  I left the other tags in place because I think we can still make it better.Peter Rehse (talk) 02:57, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

text: I can see your point. I have moved the description of EKF from the top back to the European zone. Kontoreg (talk) 10:10, 30 April 2012 (UTC)

text: I still suggest a separate article about European Kendo Federation (EKF) which specifically describes this organization and an article about Kendo around the world where we keep the list of links as a form of index. Kontoreg (talk) 19:43, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I just don't see this page as too long or complicated at the moment. It is fairly long, but has a hyperlinked table of contents, so you can easily jump to where you want.  If and when we get a very detailed page on the EKF then I think we should take Kontoreg's suggestion and split that out, leaving the main list here, but for now I don't think it is worth it.  Francis Bond (talk) 01:57, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough - at the very least it looks better than when I first saw it with some trimming of links and formatting.  I do think that some control about entries as discussed below is a good thing at this stage.  Also I think the European Kendo Federation article does have quite some room for expansion - a table of European Championships comes to mind - and if so the list of external links becomes less dominating/painful.Peter Rehse (talk) 03:38, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: So, it appears to me that while editors consider that the article could be improved, the proposal to merge the article with the European Kendo Federation article is not supported.  If there is no objection, then in a few days I'll remove the merge warning flag. Kendo 66 07:28, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I was about to remove all tags - we need to fix up the International Organizations a bit/a lot - to remove all that confusion but both articles have come a long way since the tags were first pit in place.Peter Rehse (talk) 07:31, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You beat me to it! Agree with your comments.Kendo 66 07:50, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I am confused by the language around the USA site.  What does Official mean.Peter Rehse (talk) 07:57, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge discussion [[European Kendo Federation]] to European Section of [[Kendo around the world]]

message: Following description of Dai Nippon Butoku Kai (DNBK) documents that DNBK has contact to the kendo community and are suitable to be referred to as a kendo organisation.
ABOUT
:Reference: http://www.dnbk.org/honbu.cfm (Official website of Dai Nippon Butoku Kai (DNBK); visit the 28th June 2012.)
The Dai Nippon Butoku Kai (DNBK) was established in 1895, Kyoto, Japan, under the authority of the Japanese Government and the endorsement of Meiji Emperor.
DNBK authorizes and certifies the martial arts credentials in Kendo.
REPRESENTATIVES
:Reference: http://www.dnbk.org/representatives.cfm (Official website of Dai Nippon Butoku Kai (DNBK); visit the 28th June 2012.)
Among the representatives of DNBK International Division is Mr. Kim Baylor who is Renshi in Kendo.
:Reference: http://www.dnbk.org/hofficials.cfm (Official website of Dai Nippon Butoku Kai (DNBK); visit the 28th June 2012.)
Furhermore are Mr. Manabu Adachi, Hanshi, 9th Dan Kendo, and Mr. Masakatsu Tsujino, Hanshi, 9th Dan Kendo advising counsellor of the board. 
HISTORY IN CONNECTION TO KENDO
:Reference: http://www.dnbk.org/history.cfm (Official website of Dai Nippon Butoku Kai (DNBK); visit the 28th June 2012.)
1895: The Dai Nippon Butoku Kai (DNBK) was established in Kyoto, Japan.
1942: DNBK controlled All Japan Kendo Federation and promoted kendo.
1998: The official participants demonstrated the discipline of kendo. 
2011: Kendo was conducted in the Kyoto Elite Budo Seminar.
Kontoreg (talk) 23:02, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Dai Nippon Butoku Kai (DNBK)

message: Following description of United States Martial Arts Federation (USMAF) documents that USMAF are suitable to be referred to as a kendo organisation.
ABOUT
:Reference:  (Official website of  United States Martial Arts Federation (USMAF); visit the 28th June 2012.)
The United States Martial Arts Federation  (USMAF) was founded in1967.
AFFILIATES
:Reference: http://www.usmaf.org/us/affiliates.htm (Official website of  United States Martial Arts Federation (USMAF); visit the 28th June 2012.)
The USMAF is the USA National Member of the Martial Arts International Federation (MAIF).
PROMOTION OF KENDO
:Reference: http://www.usmaf.org/us/kendo.htm (Official website of  United States Martial Arts Federation (USMAF);; visit the 28th June 2012.)
The USMAF has kendo on their program.
Kontoreg (talk) 01:15, 28 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: United States Martial Arts Federation (USMAF)

message: It would be nice to show a picture of someone actually doing Kendo - kata or shiai.  Perhaps both?  The World map just doesn't really say anything to me.Peter Rehse (talk) 05:08, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Better Picture

message: The statement above is an attempt to handle an assertion in the article as the assertion was a fact. Immigrantion from Japan is not synonymous with that the recipient countries receive proportional knowledge about kendo traditions.  - Kontoreg (talk) 00:30, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation not needed

message: Actualy, Croatia is a member of the IKF ; please see this page : http://kendo.com/membercountries#europe Cper1 (talk) 07:43, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Croatia

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