Talk:XCOM

message: I just wrote the X-COM: Genesis article. For those interested, hop on over and take a look. —Frecklefoot 18:25, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: X-COM: Genesis

message: Maybe it is wroth a mention on the X-COM page that the in-game description of objects is called "UFOpedia" - another "-pedia" like WikiPedia :)
If enough UFO/X-COM fans get here the UFOpedia can be "replicated" here and in addition it will have the personal opinions of the people about the usability of weapons, smartness of different alien types, etc.
Also the pictures of the UFOpedia in X-COM3 (Appocalypse) were in a regular viewable format (JPG or whatever), so they can be easily used here (depending on copyright conditions, etc.) --Alinor
:First off, please sign your posts.  You can do this with 3 or 4 tildes (~~~ or ~~~~).  The second form is preferred, as it adds a timestamp.
:Next, the UFOpedia is not a "-pedia" like wikipedia.  It isn't editable, it is just for reference.  Wikipedia can be edited by anyone at anytime.  That is what makes it so unique and compelling.
:Next, we don't want personal opinions about usuability of weapons and smartness of aliens.  POV--or "point of view"--and opinion is something wikipedians work hard to prevent in articles.  Quoting from Dragnet "Just the facts, ma'am."  In fact, the things you mentioned are already documented in several online websites devoted specifically to the X-COM universe.
:If you want to start a wiki on X-COM, go ahead.  The Wiki software is free and downloadable.  You can create your own UFOpedia hosting your own site.  But, please, don't do it here. Peace. :-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 16:28, Nov 15, 2004 (UTC)
::OK :) Alinor 19:20, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  UFOpedia 

message: Doesn't seem to make much sense that there's a description on the first game in the series, since there's already an article for the aforementioned first game? Hell, its copy-pasted from that one (well, before I removed the fanboi praise and put in some criticisms that have been around since forever). I'll be editing it to remove first-game specific praise, and modify the rest so it focuses on the series-wide specifics. Scumbag 20:33, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
:My fault, I think. I originally added the description way back when before there was a separate article for the first game, and when I saw that it had been duplicated I was at a loss of what to do and went on my way. --Kizor 02:32, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is there a description here? 

message: What happened?
:Well, while not really an authority, I was a programmer for X-COM: Genesis and senior staff at the Chapel Hills Hasbro Interactive (HI) studio.  What happened was that Hasbro decided they didn't want to be a video game developer.  Several theories exist for this:
:# Hasbro felt there were too many video games on the market and didn't feel they could compete (while they totally dominate the board game market, they were a rather small presence in the video game market).
:# Hasbro was horrified to find that a video game could take from 18 to 36 months to develop.  They're accustomed to bringing a game from the brainstorm stage to on the shelf in ~six months.
:# An accounting scandal left HI bankrupt and Hasbro shut it down rather than pull them out of the red.
:All of these are unsourced, but a letter from the then-head of HI lends the most credit to the first theory.  But that's what happened to HI, not X-COM.
:There were two X-COM games in development when HI was shut down: X-COM: Genesis and X-COM: Alliance.  Both were cancelled when HI was shut down.  HI sold the X-COM property to Atari (who was Infogrames at the time), along with the rest of their properties, including computer game versions of Clue for example.  They acquired all the source code for the games and other assets, such as concept art.
:Now Infogrames was within its rights to continue (or, actually, ressurect) development on these games, but chose not to.  Theories abound on this as well, but the most popular theories are that:
:# Infogrames, at the time, didn't have the money to develop a new game on the scope of the X-COM games.  They were contacting a lot of small developers to do cheap upgrades to existing games (in fact, a producer from Infogrames contacted me about doing a 3D remake of Clue (which I was lead programmer for) using existing assets).
:# Infogrames thought the property was too old to create a splash in the marketplace.  While a big game in '95, it wasn't on anyone's radar in '99.
:Several theories exist that someone actually purchased the X-COM IP and is planning to create a new game in the series, someday.  I shouldn't say who I heard might've purchased it.  I, in fact, tried to buy it, but was told it wasn't for sale at the time (they hadn't sold it, but had promised it to someone).
:So, the X-COM IP is in a state of limbo right now, and there's no telling whether it will ever be ressurected. — Frecklefoot | Talk 16:28, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasons X-Com was Discontinued 

message: The interview with the Gollop brothers and Microsoft can be found in the "Ancient Games Unleashed" issue of PC Gamer that came out in 1998. I can't recall the specific issue and I don't have it with me. TFX 23:53, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gollop Brothers interview 

message: Thre was a turn based squad game that came out in the 90s that very much resembled the combat part of UFO, but with nice graphics. At the time everyone commented on the resemblance. Good game, damned if I can remember the name - anybody? Greglocock 22:11, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that games of the same genre are necessarily "spiritual successors". Perhaps you (Greglocock) were talking about "Laser Squad"? Chronolegion 10:48, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Incubation - it is more of a puzzle game, but the feeling as you play is very similar to the tactical game in UFO, and the atmosphere is great. BTW, this article inspired me to get Dosbox and replay UFO, on my shiny new laptop. Let's burn some sectoid ass. Greglocock 12:00, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I have been trying to play the Gold Edition on my Vista-powered laptop, but no luck - I can't disable DirectX because Vista requires it, and the patches do not do anything. This is not helped by the fact that the Gold Edition has problems with LCD screens. Chronolegion 12:22, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spiritual successors

message: I'm thinking of starting up a Wikipedia project page for X-COM - the game is under-represented in the encyclopaedia considering the original's impact on the genre. Articles are reasonably messy too and need some maintenance and referencing done.
If you think this project could work, give me a shout on my talk page and I'll fire up the burners! Mouse Nightshirt | talk 16:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A possible Wikipedia project? 

message: I scanned though the article, but I didn't see anything mentioning fan remakes of the games.  I was wondering if that would be an appropriate thing to add. --Eruhildo 22:09, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fan games 

message: I was wondering if a section on hacking the games would be appropriate since I know there is a lot about it and it's pretty popular to do so. --Eruhildo 22:24, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe in a game book wiki, but not here.  It's not encyclopedic.  Most games can be hacked. — Frecklefoot | Talk 13:55, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, that makes sense.  Thanks --Eruhildo 18:25, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hacking 

message: Came across it by chance, but for what it's worth, pretty much all the articles in  look ripe for a merge into one big page called "Races of X-COM" or the like, in keeping with recent trends about consolidating such articles into lists. SnowFire 19:52, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, they should be merged. Though I think it would be best to have 3 separate articles (one for UFO Defense, one for TFTD, and one for Apocalypse). --Eruhildo 19:44, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've merged the races for the first two games into List of X-COM: UFO Defense races and List of X-COM: Terror from the Deep races respectively. I'll work on Apocalypse's soon. Also the X-COM1 races page is missing a lot of pictures, but I'll upload those soon. --Eruhildo 00:40, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've finished merging the races for Apocalypse into List of X-COM: Apocalypse races and I've uploaded the pictures for X-COM1 races. Now we just need the articles to link to them... --Eruhildo 18:22, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  X-COM races merging? 

message: There's a rumor that Kev Levine is working on a x-com game. Take2 has the license, Levine is a big fan and there was some good 'evidence' (for the internet' sake) on Shacknews I believe. Let's see.. http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/45797 
And then there was this quote http://www.quartertothree.com/game-talk/showthread.php?t=26603 from the irrational site.
Anyway, might be worth adding?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.164.12.77 (talk) 18:10, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: While it appears Take-Two owns the rights to X-COM per United States Patent and Trademark Office, I saw no reliable evidence that they are planning to make a sequel. It may be true, but we can't prove it. By the way, forums generally are not considered good sources. Thanks for bringing this up though. --Eruhildo (talk) 23:05, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  X-COM by Levine? 

message: I corrected a bit of text about Terror From the Deep not being available through Steam, however I can't provide direct proof of what I wrote. The reason is that I got this information via a private message sent to one of the 2K Games representatives on the official forum (http://forums.2kgames.com/forums). Unfortunately the message also contains private parts so I can't even post it publicly. Still, what I wrote is about as official as you can get, and you can confirm it the same way I did. --Gibly (talk) 17:59, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's good enough for me. Thanks for doing that. --Eruhildo (talk) 17:51, 24 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Just to let someone know: I just bought Terror from the Deep via Steam, and I'm in Sweden. So the article's note saying that it can't be purchased from outside the US is incorrect.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.231.251.44 (talk) 22:30, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing that out, it means they changed that. I'll double check with 2K Games to see if it is now available everywhere. --Gibly (talk) 13:14, 19 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Well I just confirmed that it is available in Sweden, but it seems it's still not available in some places. I can't buy it here in Croatia, and it seems it's not available in Australia either. --Gibly (talk) 12:08, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm in New Zealand, purchased the pack last week INCLUDING terror from the deep fyi130.195.5.7 (talk) 01:58, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm in France and both TFTD and the XCOM complete pack are available (11 september 2008).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.203.183.139 (talk) 05:48, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  X-COM on Steam 

message: Or articles about the weapons and vehicles in the games (lists)? --Captain Obvious and his crime-fighting dog (talk) 22:57, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you mean an article about the X-COM organization as portrayed in the game?  Having a whole article about it I fear would amount to fancruft and would be speedily deleted.  The same goes for weapons and vehicles in the game series.  I think all we can really justify is naming them in a list. The X-COM organization can only get a few paragraphs in the main article. But this is just MHO, you can wait for others to put their $.02 in.  You can also ask about it over at the Video Games Wikiproject (on the talk page). — Frecklefσσt | Talk 12:34, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Sorry, my bad.  I meant to link to Wikipedia's policy on fancruft here.  — Frecklefσσt | Talk 12:28, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How about an [[X-COM]] article about the organization? 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:XCOM TERROR.jpg

message: Can someone make article for that Developer? The Unbeholden (talk) 08:53, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Mythos Games

message: It's not for all games (actually only for the first and largely the second). --Ostateczny Krach Systemu Korporacji (talk) 19:01, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Series standards" 

message: And also on Mythos Games and ALTAR Games too. --Ostateczny Krach Systemu Korporacji (talk) 20:02, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did an article on [[The Dreamland Chronicles: Freedom Ridge]] 

message: Over at IGN.  I am at work so cannot access it. 198.36.23.16 (talk) 17:31, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the tip.  I didn't find anything on IGN about it, but did in plenty of other places.  It's going to be a FPS, though (bummer).  It will have to be added to the article now, I guess. — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 17:59, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New X COM officially announced 

message: In a meantime I'll rewrite the article now. --Asperchu (talk) 14:09, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New [[XCOM]] has no article still 

message: I came here looking for info about UFO defense.  I wanted to know how it compares to other titles and such.  I could find none...I'm sorry, I'm new at this but shouldn't it be mentioned more on this page?  Is there anyway to setup a notification system so that I know when someone has responded?  Ok, I just clicked "watch page" does this email me? Sorry that I have wandered off topic
BunnyStrider (talk) 00:56, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  UFO Defense does not have a significant enough presence on this page 

message: The X-COM or XCOM logo (any of them, but especially the first and/or the latest). --194.145.185.229 (talk) 17:21, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pic(s) needed  

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replies: text: X-COM →  – The series has used the "XCOM" moniker, sans the hyphen, for 5 games now - more than the running time of many entire series. While I respect that the original game used the hyphen, the page should reflect the current name of the series, which is decidedly without it. For example, Soulcalibur is not called Soul Edge. Ace Combat is not called Air Combat. And so forth. ZXCVBNM (TALK) 03:21, 8 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 8 October 2020 

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