Talk:List of selective high schools in New South Wales

message: Folks, if you are going to paraphrase one of the NSW Department of Education and Training web pages couldn't you at least copy accurately? Bossley Park High School has never been and certainly is not now a selective high school.Detexpert (talk) 23:12, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Selective high school means that you have to sit a test to get in. 59.86.177.234 (talk) 03:13, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that makes my point... JPD (talk) 07:50, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
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message: Do you have an issues with my renaming this List of creative and performing arts high schools in New South Wales? Chanlord 04:25, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: *There's a "list" at the category page. The creative and performing arts high schools in New South Wales is more explanatory. Of course, both contain the same information. Perhaps just delete the "List of" page, since it's just a redirect. Joestella 04:32, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

text: *That's the category listing, not a list. List of creative and performing arts high schools in New South Wales would be the proper way to title the article as that's what it is. This is according to Wikipedian naming conventions. It's ok to have a seperate list page as it can give overarching explainations about the type of school they are -- Chanlord 04:37, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

text: *There is a manually-entered list and explanation at Creative_and_performing_arts_high_schools_in_New_South_Wales. There is a category listing at [[Category:Creative_and_performing_arts_high_schools_in_New_South_Wales], to which I have added the same explanatory text. I see no purpose in adding that there's a list on the page to the latter entry's title, since there is more to the article than the list. With only six entries, an embedded list is more appropriate than a stand-alone list. Joestella 04:48, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

text: *Lists have introductions too. The article wouldn't be changing at all. It would be just be called "List of creative and performing arts high schools in New South Wales". A redirect would be put on "Creative and performing arts high schools in New South Wales". All I'm asking is to reverse the current redirect. It just makes it more consistent with other lists in the parent category, like List of schools in New South Wales and List of selective high schools in New South Wales -- Chanlord 04:58, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

text: *List of schools in New South Wales does not have an introduction. I mean, really, it doesn't matter. But the point of Creative and performing arts high schools in New South Wales is not the list so much as the explanation. Joestella 05:09, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

text: * Lists can have explainations look at List of selective high schools in New South Wales -- Chanlord 05:33, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

text: * I know that. But this example shows that isn't an issue of consistency. Think about it from a user perspective: they may want to know what constitutes a Creative/PA school in NSW - so they go [[Creative_and_performing_arts_high_schools_in_New_South_Wales here]. They may want to find out more about specific Creative/PA high schools, so they go [[Category:Creative_and_performing_arts_high_schools_in_New_South_Wales here]. In a much larger category, like say "schools in NSW", a list makes sense because there aren't articles for all schools, so a category listing would be insufficient as a list. That is not the case here. It's only six schools. Joestella 09:22, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: *That's why they have redirects. And Categories are meant to give a list of articles similarly related. There can be a redirect at the current page, but for naming purposes a "List of creative and performing arts in New South Wales" is more uniform. It's just two little words. Chanlord 12:12, 20 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: *Both titles exist in the database, I take it you want the one called "list of" to appear on the "Schools in NSW" page. But even then, this "list of" link would appear way below the "Creative and performing arts high schools in New South Wales" link under the "Subcategories" heading. It would be redundant. On the other hand, a link to "Creative and performing arts high schools in New South Wales" set inamongst the names of schools would suggest to the user that information about the general nature of these schools is available in the way that "List of Creative and performing arts high schools in New South Wales" does not. Joestella 12:51, 20 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I have nothing more to add, but I'm yet to be convinced. Joestella 00:36, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

text: * It's just two words and it makes it more uniform. Take it up with the Wikipolicy list people. Moving page to List of creative and performing arts high schools in New South Wales and redirecting Creative and performing arts high schools in New South Wales to it Chanlord 00:51, 21 December 2005 (UTC)

text: * I'm not going to take it up with the Wikipolicy list people. Accepting their jurisdiction would make the appeal a foregone conclusion. :) I'd ask that if you think foundation dates help your case for moving the page, you actually put the effort in and do it. Joestella 00:48, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sure thing. I'll do it when I get home tonight (at work atm). enochlau (talk) 04:54, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done. enochlau (talk) 11:31, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
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