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Wikipedia talk:Citing sources/Proposal

message: I hope this inspires some thought on the issue of where the system is really breaking down.  I think that the problems with VfD are a symptom, not the cause. =) Xaa 21:31, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasoning 

message: I can see a lot of thought went into this proposal, but I am concerned that we are just shifting the burden to the citation system.  What mechanism do we use for validating citations?  What happens if a citation is declared invalid? If someone makes a change without a valid citation, is their whole change reversed?  What if someone else has changed part of the change already?
Just some things to think about...
--Daedalus-Prime 22:50, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shifting the problem? 

message: There is a problem: Look at the changes recently made to Elizabeth Morgan.  All of the supporting material was ripped out.  Only the text and the link to EM's bussines-promoting web site remain.  Only recently were even her credentials added back in.
The supporting material were links, many to very reliable sources, claiming that they were "too stalkerish".  They are all gone now. See
* http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Elizabeth_Morgan&oldid=20457111
User:Xaa does not appear to make the changes, but look what he says about the process:
 Feedback: The article is good as it stands, your most recent edits
 that I have  looked at aren't really necessary. This article is done -
 time to move on to another one. =) Xaa 04:26, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hypocrisy
Talk:One Man and His Droid

message: Presumably One Man and his Dog reference? Secretlondon 22:01, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it is, i will add that to the article now, i forgot about that part. Thanks -- flipjargendy 22:14, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

message: We need a proper list of the different machines this game was released for. We could also do with one of those nice little info boxes some of the other games have, since this article is looking rather "proper". :)
Zagrebo 21:29, 1 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Versions
Talk:Comparison of source-code-hosting facilities

message: CodePlex updated their project requirements page to say project requirement is compliance with the open source definition.  Re-adding entry. -- jwanagel 10:54, 22 Feb 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-adding CodePlex entry based requirements update 

message: Isn't the Framasoft forge missing? -- Error (talk) 00:40, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Framasoft 

message: sourcehut and repo.or.cz are missing. Xan2 (talk) 22:12, 19 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither of these have articles of their own. Greenman (talk) 10:43, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  sourcehut and repo.or.cz are missing
Talk:Progressive Conservative Party of Ontario candidates in the 2003 Ontario provincial election

message: This page is ill-conceived. There should instead be a page for "Progessive Conservative candidates"; there is no equivalent page for any other Ontario provincial election year, and many of the candidates were candidates in other years. Another option is that these bios should be "broken out" into their own articles. Sdedeo 22:09, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
Talk:Pusser's

message: I changed the explanation of the word "pusser" as that word is still used in the Royal Navy today. I removed the claim that the daily tot of rum was known as "grog" because it wasn't - grog is watered down rum. Also, the Pusser's Rum available today is not the same as the old rum that the Royal Navy used to provide. However, I don't have any evidence other than memories to back up that claim so I didn't change anything else in the article. The old rum used to be much thicker and stronger than the rum sold by Pussers Ltd.
Anomenat 22:11, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I Pussers really distilled, blended, and/or bottled in Tortola, B.V.I.??? I thought that I remembered that the last time I looked at a bottle it stated it was bottled by Seagram's in Indiana.PGNormand 17:12, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Made in Tortola??? 

message: The way this article reads, it's tough to tell when it's referring to the historical term and actual royal navy rum, vs. the current contemporary brand. I'm planning on trying to separate out the two strands and make it clearer when each is being discussed.
Extraface (talk) 19:50, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing shift between the general term and the product 

message: The only relevant reference I could find for this line:
"Forbes magazine described Pussers Rum as the "Single Malt of Rum" and named it one of the world's top 10 premier rums.[citation needed]"
...is this article from 2005 which is just one author's opinion and isn't any kind of a formal list, just "10 great rums." Additionally, the slideshow that runs through the choices no longer works.
Removing it.
Extraface (talk) 17:38, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What would think about removing the paragraph that starts "Part of the reason..."? That seems to be the last of the blatantly promotional ad copy. Kendall-K1 (talk) 19:39, 20 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. But I think I'm going to hold until I can develop a replacement for that entire intro section.Extraface (talk) 15:38, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and took it out. The lead is ok as is, but it could use some expansion. Kendall-K1 (talk) 16:12, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like this claim "from the original Royal Navy recipe" should be source-able if it's true. None of the stuff in the history section about Charles Tobias acquiring the rights is cited either - I think all of it was pulled from the company's web site. Extraface (talk) 17:53, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing dubious "top ten rums in the world" 

message: Here is a photo we could add to the article: 
I'd add it myself but I haven't had much luck uploading photos to WP lately. Kendall-K1 (talk) 20:43, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo
Talk:State Street (Madison)

message: What does "At the end of the night all was settled with 'milk was a bad choice.' " mean? Scott182 00:50, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was vandalism. I removed it. – Lordmontu (talk) • (contribs) 02:15, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "milk was a bad choice"?? 

message: The same section citing "many murders" on State Street in recent years has been added and readded after two reverts.  I was unable to find any evidence to support this claim.  In fact, I kept finding statements stating how rare murders are in Madison.  Additionally, the recent murder, while current and exceptional, is hardly noteworthy.  Please let me know your thoughts. --Andy Marek 21:05, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Increasing Violence 

message: The first picture is wayyyyyyyyyyyyy boring and there are better pictures online but I'm not good at fooling with permissions stuff... Any volunteers? The Person Who Is Strange 21:22, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture
Talk:List of Belarusians

message: This list is highly incomplete and contains a good 60% of other nationalities. It may be best to merge this list with list of Russians, considering that list already has a warning that it contains peoples who may not be ethnic Russians. Also, in essense the Belarusian language is a dialect of Russian moreso than Ukrainian, so it may be wise to just treat it as a provincial language of Russians and merge the two lists. It will increase the Russian list and make this small list look less foolish. If I get no responses, I will conduct the merging myself.
:be sure nobody supports your chauvinistic views and any your vandalism will be reverted. --Monkbel 21:51, 19 
September 2005 (UTC)
You are breaking the wikipedia rules; in case you forgot; users are allowed to contribute and make decisions. If I was an ass, I would have just moved this list a long time ago. Instead, I ask for support and get this. Also use the word "chauvinistic" correctly.
:If you persist in your schauwinistismus, you will be banned from editing despite your superior command of English; in case you forgot, there are other editors around. mikka (t) 21:34, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Go on and put all people on the Earth under one list, and don't complain then that nationalism gets in the way. --Monkbel 19:16, 22 September 2005 (UTC)

text: It is not your or mine business how much they differ. Sufficient to say that their difference is recognized internationally, and commies have nothing to do with this. For an average Chinese there is probably no differene between french or german or english. If you don't know the difference, then please go away and read some books. mikka (t) 20:38, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to Merge this list with List of Russians 

message: This is blatant POV-Pushing. Most of these people are ethnic Russians or Poles, recast as Belorussians for some reason.
: And? The same can be said about any other list of people. You can edit, but leave it, please. Yeti 23:58, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anonymous 

message: Many of the recent additions were taken from this list (PDF), as list of some historically famous Belarusian people. The problem is that most of these names are spelled phonetically and hence do not appear in this fashion in the English language. If we have a native Belarusian speaker here, can you please help and transliterate these new names? Thanks. Antidote 23:01, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: New Additions
Talk:Gustav Heinrich Ralph von Koenigswald

message: The person on the picture is not GHR von Koenigswald, but paleoanthropologist Friedemann Schrenk. I think it is a bit misleading without any description of the picture...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.155.106.178 (talk) 22:53, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture
Talk:Wittman Regional Airport

message: Wow, this is the only article in Wikipedia that contains the term "Osh­kosh"? What ever happened to Osh­kosh trucks? Osh­kosh, WI? Osh­kosh B'Gosh? I'm a big believer in Wikipedia, but we seem to be lacking in the Osh­kosh department ;)
A couple facts:
"osh­kosh" returns 5,680,000 results at Google.
"extreme ironing" (which we have an article about) returns only 84,800.
I'll give a WikiThanks, and 1 ψ to any person who creates a non-stub article about Oshkosh (the truck maker), Oshkosh, WI, or Oshkosh B'Gosh.
Wulf 04:14, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: NVM – there appear to be articles for all of them... But, a Wikipedia search doesn't show anything... Weird... --Wulf 04:31, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Osh­kosh 
Talk:Philomathean Society

message: I've sectioned off the other societies for now, just for presentation purposes.  If there's ever more to say about them, we can set them up with their own articles and disambiguate, but given the small amount of information there currently, that's not viable at the moment. Shimeru 09:12, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other societies 

message: Just made an edit to make it clear that while there is a dispute about which is the oldest continually-existing literary society the position of the Philomathean Society, as far as I can tell from their website, is that they are in fact the oldest continually-existing society. So I stuck reference to the dispute in a footnote, and qualified the claim to be only what they assert rather than that of fact. New here so let me know if this was out of line!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 165.123.204.208 (talk) 06:49, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that was a very good edit. Well done on polishing up the phrasing too. Voceditenore (talk) 07:58, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oldest Continually-Existing Society 

message: I have removed that section completely. Such lists are completely inappropriate. The names of private persons, not notable in themselves, with no independent references, and labelled "current" (a meaningless construct) do not belong in the article. This trivia is of interest solely to members of the society, several of whom are clearly editing this article. This is an encyclopedia article, not an extension of your web site. Please stop using it as such. Voceditenore (talk) 07:51, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Fully agreed. Esrever (klaT) 19:02, 30 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Esrever. I've done the same thing to equivalent sections in American Whig–Cliosophic Society, Philolexian Society, and Philolexian Society. I'm sure there are many more student societies with inappropriate "Current officers" sections. They should all be removed when found. Voceditenore (talk) 08:01, 1 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Voceditenore, can you confirm if this restriction applies to the Head Officer? Information never hurts. Pfbeqrnrgkoprijuwnafj (talk) 01:24, 5 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Current bench" removed
Category talk:Australian school stubs

message: As mentioned above, Caulfield Grammar School has reached featured article status and is thus potentially a model for good Australian school articles.  The article covers the following contents:
    * 1 History
          o 1.1 Yarra Junction Campus
          o 1.2 Nanjing Campus
    * 2 Academics
          o 2.1 Middle School structure
          o 2.2 The VCE
          o 2.3 "The virtual campus"
    * 3 Caulfield student life
          o 3.1 Sport
          o 3.2 The Arts
    * 4 School uniform
    * 5 Famous alumni
    * 6 References
    * 7 Further reading
    * 8 See also
    * 9 External links
Note in the peer review comments the following suggestion was made as to how to create a great article:
: "go into the underlying detail regarding the events that they do mention. For example, they might mention the school's football championships, when it built its campuses and when it celebrated its 100th anniversary, but [should also cover] why the school opened these campuses, why it decided to become a boarding school, what sort of competition it had to face in the football league, what the 100th anniversary celebrations were like, and so on."
--AYArktos 01:16, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  A good school article 

message: The Newington College article has been edited extensively and a lot of good material has been added.  Some of it is perhaps a little advertorial in tone.  I have done some revision but would appreciate another editor having a look, including as to whether I have been a little harsh in my revisions.--User:AYArktos |  Talk 22:40, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newington College
Talk:Gender transition

message: An explanation for my reverts:. gender affirmation is not the same as gender transition. Affirmation is an approach the medical field takes where it affirms the person's gender rather than making them jump through pathologizing hoops (ie gatekeeping models). People transitioned before the model, and sometimes transition underground without official medical channels at all, so to conflate these two terms, one the act of transitioning and the other the medical system's current approach to facilitating the process, is blatantly inaccurate and does a disservice to our readers. TheTranarchist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 22:40, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I read the "transition," for example, from male to female to means that the person isn't really female and has to change (transition) to become female. On the other hand, "affirmation" makes me think that the person has always been female, but she is affirming (positively establishing) that which has always been true.  
"Transition" strikes me as disrespectful by disavowing the said person's womanhood. However, I will leave it to you since you appear to have lived experience.--2601:C4:C300:A210:A810:AA14:2F69:B97E (talk) 22:49, 31 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Gender affirmation" is not a synonym for "gender transition" 

message: The redirect template currently says, ""Gender change" redirects here. For Sex change, see Sex change." Please change that to ""Gender change" redirects here. For sex change, see Sex change." without the bold as that would make it grammatically correct. Mseingth2133444 (Did I mess up? Let me know here) 00:38, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Skyshiftertalk 01:08, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2024-03-04 

message: — Assignment last updated by Zisha68 (talk) 02:34, 29 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Psychology of Gender
Talk:Kutztown Area High School

message: Some things to fact check:
* was it "50Trexler" or "50trexler"?
* was the password taped onto the back of computers when first handed out?
* did parents sign and return the disciplinary reports?
Eclipsed 22:52, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  August 2005 
Talk:Complete economic integration

message: I strongly disagree with the assumption that UK is an example of complete economic integration, based on the following arguments:
* UK is itself an independent entity (state), and is not even considered a federation.
* Scotland, Ireland and England were "forced" (never by choice of the people) into the union which was in the first place a political (through a monarchy), and not an economical union. It was never an economic voluntary integration.
* An good example of distinct states that decided to create a complete economic integration would have been the 13 original states of the United States; several (by then recently) independent states that decided to fully integrate economically and (originally) voluntarily for economical reasons.The same is true of almost any true federation, like Canada and Australia and in a smaller degree in Brasil, Argentina and Mexico, countries that even experienced (temporary) seccession of some of the "free and sovereing" states (or provinces) that made up the union. In all these true federations the "free and sovereing states" (to use Mexico's phrase), have had since their inception, their own governmental powers (judicial, legislative and executive) as opossed to recently created parliaments in Scotland and Wales.
* This final step in the integration is paradoxical; a complete economic integration, as assumed in the UK, is not only an economical integration, but a full social and political (if not cultural through central education) integration. If that is the last step of economic integration, then the independent states that conform it cease to be (at least internationally) independent (all decisions are made up by the supranational state, and not by the individual states), making it just another federation, and thus one single political entity. 
--65.117.157.18 22:52, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [Untitled]
Talk:Basis swap

message: If a "basis swap is an interest rate swap which involving exchange of two floating rate financial instruments denominated in the same currency"
then what is one where they are denominated in different currencies called?.
Can we please have a section on why one would use a basis swap, i.e. what purpose it has? -- Anon  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 147.114.226.173 (talk) 07:54, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have added 3 examples to illustrate the use of basis swaps. Let me know (on my userpage->talk) if there is more clarification needed. Nshuks7 (talk) 07:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)

message: I will add the section
--Malin Randstrom (talk) 07:21, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rationale for Basis Swaps
Talk:Puppet monarch

message: It is not a good idea to redirect this to puppet state. A careful person, when reading the contents of both, will realize that puppet state means one under rule of another, foreign, state, whereas puppet monarch (puppet king, puppet ruler) is a person under practical rule of his/her countryman. If the contents of puppet state are not changed to cover this phenomenon (a change I deem impossible, remembering the definitions), this cannot redirect there. Of coursem, there may exist another article or concept that is sufficiently synonymous with puppet monarch, but puppet state is NOT such. Thus, reverted the redirect. Arrigo 22:57, 10 August 2005 (UTC)

message: Let's consider this he was killed by Majorian and his rise to power was a joined conspiracy by them both... Majorian also Ruled in his own right being the last Emperor to truly rule and not be a puppet of a Barbarian General or the Eastern Court. Dogpilot-Ave (talk) 21:15, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was Majorian really a puppet Emperor
Talk:Jim Brunzell

message: I have created a temporary sub-page for James Brunzell. 
— Moe ε 22:57, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: Didn't Brunzell also play football at Minnesota during the same period as Ric Flair? See fanbase.com 1969 Minnesota Golden Gophers 1969 roster for verification.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.101.38.109 (talk) 17:53, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minnesota Golden Gophers Football
Talk:Mathematics and art/Archive 1

message: This article appears to be about the relationship between maths and art, but what is "Shuntest"? Jonathan Oldenbuck (talk) 16:11, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I suggest that the contents of the shorter article Mathematics and art should be merged into this article, and then the whole article moved to Mathematics and art, as that title is a more likely search term, and is consistent with the titles of other articles such as Mathematics and architecture, Mathematics and fibre arts, Mathematics and music. Gandalf61 (talk) 15:29, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have completed the merge. I will move the page back to Mathematics and art in a day or two if there are no objections. Gandalf61 (talk) 09:36, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: Move Parsecboy (talk) 12:34, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoly_Fomenko 
Many of his artistic works are heavely influenced by mathematics and to be more specific by topology. 
Here are some of his drawings:
http://web.archive.org/web/20070712180803/anatoly-fomenko.com/art/main.php
http://www.chronologia.org/art/01.html (explore the red links there)
I guess he is the one who definitely needs to be listed here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.58.133.178 (talk) 19:49, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Anatoly Fomenko is not on the list? 

message: Hi, please see: Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mathematics#Mathematical_art_.26_computer_generated_imagery. Ideas will be appreciated. History2007 (talk) 03:23, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Modern/computer art?

message: The following new text has been proposed. The key defect is the lack of any evidence of notability - citations are needed to show that this is sufficiently widely considered 'art' in reliable sources. Other defects like cross-referencing with 'above' and point-of-view advocacy / unencyclopedic language ("an extraordinary world of intricate patterns") are fixable, if and when. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:04, 9 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible new section: Geometric Magic Squares

message: I'm wondering why we have sections by artist rather than by theme, given the thematic title. We now have a list of mathematical artists, so there is no call to list artists here. Some themes are already covered, such as fractal art; others are mentioned briefly under artists - perspective for instance, when they'd be better drawn out on their own, and the artists relegated to mentions in passing. Other themes such as maths in fibre arts are currently only mentioned unsatisfactorily in the See also list; these would be better discussed in sections of their own, with an illustration or two. I propose therefore to reorganise the article by theme. Inputs welcomed. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:50, 24 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Thematic sections, not by artist?