Talk:Enumclaw horse sex case

message: The stallion's name is shown at the start of the Mr. Hands infamous video clip to be "josh hopkins"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.67.29.196 (talk) 20:26, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of Stallion 

message: - I believe a section addressing the mr hands video's circulation around the internet amongst certain crowds (the main reason why this article would be of interest, i think) would be benificial to this article. I've also seen various posts by someone claiming to be mr hands on a bestiality forum, will look into this as well. this entry is much better than the other mr hands article. He died doing what he loved.
also, a clarification is needed seperating the video being filmed when mr pinyan was injured and the video circulating online.
There used to be a link to the clip, but it got deleted.  I propose it gets put back in.
: No. It adds nothing to the article; while Wikipedia is not censored, this doesn't override the fact that the link isn't useful here. Zetawoof(ζ) 07:13, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Beyond it not being the fatal incident (I haven't watched the clip but I assume that to be so) and thus not really relevant, the content is not suitable for wikipedia. One simple reason being that it is illegal in many countries and I personally do not believe illegal content should be put on wikipedia. BabyNuke 12:50, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  "I personally do not believe illegal content should be put on wikipedia" - makes me glad your opinion doesn't matter.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.78.69.127 (talk) 05:31, August 26, 2007 (UTC)
I'm not clear on how a dead freak is "notable."  Momentary mention in the news for being stupid is hardly the stuff of encyclopedias.  What about the guy born with two penises?  The man with an extra arm?  The guy who smoked 110 cigarettes at once?  There's nothing here that can't be found with one read of a google page.  I propose deletion.Mzmadmike (talk) 00:39, 4 May 2008 (UTC)

text: It's notable for being the single most read newspaper article in the Seattle Times' history, resulting in a change in state legislation, and having a film shot about it which featured at the 2007 Sundance and Cannes film festival. That's a whole lot more notable than the 110 cigarettes guy. BabyNuke (talk) 15:20, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mr Hands Clip 

message: I left this comment:
:You added the template for deletion to this article, but there are some problems with it. First, you didn't actually do anything beyond add the template. Second, you haven't discussed or explained why it would not be considered a valid article. I myself can't see a reason. 
:Not being sure what you want to do, I've deleted the template, and if there's a discussion you want to have about the article, may I suggest its talk page would be a good frist stop? Many thanks -- FT2 (Talk | email) 00:32, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template removal 

message: Any content on that page which refers to this incident has been removed... either that article should have that content replaced or it should be removed from the See also section on this one, although to be honest I find it confusing that Enumclaw is mentioned at all, since I can't find any information on Wikipedia to link Enumclaw to this article... Sk8a H8a 03:45, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because that's where it happened. For some reason, there's been an effort to remove mentions of this from the relevant articles. I've readded an explanation to both articles. Zetawoof(ζ) 07:38, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  There was an external link to the Seattle Times article in the Enumclaw article; I think that was sufficient.  However, if the consensus is to include a cite, that's fine, as long as it's factual.  Some previous cites have been overly inflammatory and not true. --Jslik 05:03, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is Enumclaw in See also???? 

message: Didn't Pinyan move to Washington State specifically because there was no law there against sex with horses? DS 14:41, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know, but I think it's more likely that he lived where he did because of his job at Boeing. I see no evidence for him living there for legal reasons. BabyNuke 15:25, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving? 

message: It might be the real deal then.
: I'm not sure how that follows. As was mentioned earlier, the video you're probably thinking of was recorded and available online well before the incident. Zetawoof(ζ) 19:33, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I admit, I laughed. Raul654 (talk) 17:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

text: You will be glad to know the horse was gelded/castrated very shortly afterward, so he wont be getting up to any more mischief.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.2.23.91 (talk) 07:26, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wasn't the Mr. Hands video in the Zoo film? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Article says both, and normally this would not be an issue were it not for the fact that quotations in the article use both spellings... Kakurokuna (talk) 21:03, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pinyan or Pinyun? 

message: http://web.archive.org/web/20050831155240/http://metrokc.gov:80/sheriff/news/ listed a possible press release:
* "July 14, 2005 South County Death Prompts Sheriff's Office Investigation of Animal Issues"
But the page itself was never archived.
WhisperToMe (talk) 18:00, 13 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  King County Sheriff press releases 

message: article says "with all 36 state senators voting for it". There are 49 senators.
I looked up the bill on the WA legislative website. The vote was "passed; yeas, 36; nays, 0; absent, 0; excused, 13", so 13 senators were very scarce at the time of this vote. Will edit to say the vote was unanimous among those who cast a vote.
:::: dude  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.34.138.191 (talk) 17:02, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  number of WA state senators 

message: There are notes on the article but no notes list, which is causing a cite error at the end of the article. The following should be added above the ==References== section:
==Notes==

Thanks 89.241.33.89 (talk) 19:15, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: --Ferien (talk) 20:25, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cite error 

message: In the subsection titled "Section 16.52.205 of the Revised Code of Washington," there's a sentence that reads (in part), "bestiality had little political support in the Washington." I assume this is instead intended to read, "bestiality had little political support in Washington." Someone should change it - I can't because I don't have an account. --2603:7000:4E40:9E00:845E:2B7:FFE:EA16 (talk) 03:09, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, A09090091 (talk) 19:35, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo 

message: I think it would be an important addition to add the popular youtuber "jschlatt" under the references or media section of the page, especially as that part was already there once before. 161.97.198.153 (talk) 03:23, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 05:01, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 September 2023 

message: On November 2023, a video of a man with a blurred face bending over and receiving anal sex from a horse in a stable has gone viral on X.com. It's being regarded as the Mr. Hands 2023. Gengeros (talk) 08:39, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Michael Hanley Horse Video 

message: "Pinyan and Tait filmed and distributed zoophilic pornography of Pinyan receiving anal sex from a stallion under the alias "Mr. Hands"."
This might make it sound like the stallions name was "Mr. Hands", although I'm not sure how to rewrite it. Dialmayo (talk) (Contribs) she/her 02:16, 19 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarity in lead 

message: Currently, the article about the Enumclaw incident suggests Douglas Spink was involved as a truck driver, but the sources it cites to support that claim do not mention Spink at all:
https://web.archive.org/web/20070202031601/http://www.time.com/time/arts/article/0,8599,1583009,00.html
https://web.archive.org/web/20150824013827/https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/videotapes-show-bestiality-enumclaw-police-say/
The details of the Enumclaw incident are well documented, and Douglas Spink is not mentioned in any verified accounts of the incident. Suffice it to say, Douglas Spink was not involved in the Enumclaw incident, and certainly not as the driver who left Kenneth Pinyan at the hospital. It would be difficult for Spink to be involved in the July incident, as he was arrested for drug smuggling in February of that year. References to Douglas Spink's involvement should be removed.
https://www.nydailynews.com/2010/04/19/coke-kingpin-douglas-spink-busted-for-running-bestiality-farm-in-washington-state/ AmenableOtter (talk) 07:06, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Mention of Douglas Spink