Talk:Toyota Matrix

message: The bit about no rear wiper and no alloy wheels on the base 2003 model is unattributed and untrue. My '03 base Matrix came with (and has) both, and I've seen a number of 1st gen Matrices similarly outfitted. What is required to remove this faulty info? A scan of the window sticker? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.121.151.243 (talk) 00:04, 19 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Base Matrix features

message: While the technical name is Corolla Matrix, it's still known by most consumers as the Matrix. In articles of people with professional names (i.e. Carmen Electra), the article isn't titled with their actual name, but the name they're commonly known by. Why did you not start a discussion over this before actually moving? I'm moving it back to Toyota Matrix. If you have any objections, discuss it here, first. Butterfly0fdoom (talk) 04:51, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Move? eh?

message: Scheinwerfermann, why do you say the correct plural is Matrixes? According to [Dictionary.com], matrixes is given as an option for two sources, but all three sources provide matrices as a spelling.--Flash176 (talk) 18:29, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See above. —Scheinwerfermann (talk) 18:30, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plural 

message: The article states that the first-generation base model Matrix could not be ordered with a rear wiper.  I once owned a 2003 base Matrix with a rear wiper.  I did not change the article because this is personal experience and not research, and I am unable to find a source that says that this car could be ordered with a rear wiper.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mobilene (talk • contribs) 18:05, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Base first generation Matrix rear wiper 

message: I've checked the Toyota page multiple times and the Matrix still says the 2010 model.  Is the 2011 model stuff true?  68.37.41.158 (talk) 00:44, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.leftlanenews.com/toyota-matrix.html IFCAR (talk) 05:53, 6 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not helpful; sorry.  68.37.41.158 (talk) 22:42, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  2011 Model 

message: It may be desirable to include fuel economy numbers for the different trim lines of the Matrix. Many readers may be interested in knowing the environmental impact as well as the raw horsepower engine output stats.
129.89.56.199 (talk) 21:39, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fuel economy stats might be nice 

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message: Relative to what? The E120 Corolla, which is essentially the sedan version of the same car, is 2670 lbs. (2005 XRS) or 2502 lbs. (2003 CE). Other vehicles in the segment are Ford Focus (2623 lbs.), Kia Soul (2745 lbs.), Saturn Astra (2833 lbs.), Mazda3 hatchback (2930 lbs.), Subaru Impreza (3063 lbs. - WRX/STi are heavier, but the Matrix doesn't compete with turbo Subarus for sales) and arguably Dodge Caliber (3157 lbs.). I would say it's middling at best. If someone with more WP brownie points than I cares to make the change, it would be welcomed. 70.29.99.106 (talk) 03:13, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: WP is open to all people. Feel free to remove 'relatively light'.  Stepho  talk  08:23, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Even in your cherry-picked list, the Matrix is essentially tied for lightest wagon with the Focus (you also missed the Suzuki Aerio, at 2630 lbs.); the Kia Soul didn't even come out until 2010, so scratch that one off entirely vs. Gen 1 Matrix (a.k.a. Gen 9 Corolla), or else you'd be able to include the disco'd-in-2002 Suzuki Esteem at 24xx lbs. Sedans are always lighter assuming all else is equal, which is why a Corolla is marginally lighter (it's actually 2502 lbs., assuming 1ZZ/C59 drivetrain), and why a WRX wagon weighs 3250 lbs (and they absolutely did compete for sales in every moderately affluent neighbourhood I've ever driven through, especially the TRD Matrix models which are hitherto unmentioned in this article). I'm not changing it back on the basis that it's still needless editorializing which borders on advertorial, but the Matrix is relatively light compared to all contemporary wagons available in USDM. Oh, I also presume 2800 lbs. is the automatic, because the ref says 2,679 lbs. for a FWD Matrix with 1ZZ/C59 drivetrain. 2607:FEA8:BFA0:BD0:4D48:738F:15F4:C4BF (talk) 19:40, 19 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "It weighs in at a relatively light 2,800 lb (1,300 kg)."