Talk:Irish passport

message: I paased through Berlin airport today, and spotted a person carrying a GREEN covered Irish passport. This passport had light blue pages and did not have the European Union wording on the cover. Was this some kind of diplomatic passport??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.44.104.98 (talk) 22:11, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Emergency replacement passports are greeny-black and only last a year. Could have been one of these. Even "diplomatic" Official Passports are burgundy. --89.101.141.253 (talk) 11:15, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Emergency replacement passport has green pages rather than the usual blue. Probably it was a standard passport with non-standard over-cover.RashersTierney (talk) 00:23, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Erratum- Pages on temp passport are BlueRashersTierney (talk) 22:41, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New Green passport?

message: Dima1 added Moldova. Do you have any reference, or did you contact the Moldovan border police? André Devecserii (talk) 18:59, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Passport Card to Moldova 

message: The US has confirmed they will not accept the passport card.
Look at this
"A new Irish Passport Card, which will be accepted for travel within the European Union and the European Economic Area and will be available soon."
This Is what several countries, including the US, refer to, so this line is what will likely limit international acceptance André Devecserii (talk) 02:57, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Passport Card to the US 

message: Alright, so: a while ago I sent a mail to Serbia asking about passport card acceptance. Today I got two differnet replies (one agent replied and then forwarded to a colleague who also sent a reply).
Answer 1: "The actual visa regime between Serbia and Ireland says: No visas required for visits of up to 90 days * ID card can also be used to travel to Serbia"
Answer 2: "The card you have is a passport for traveling inside EU territory. So, you cannot travel to Serbia, of USA or any other country outside of EU. You will need a passport to come here."
Passports in card format anyone? Unfortunately I have yet to find a single country which considers the passport cards to be full passports (apart from Ukraine, who only gave me a vague positive answer, all countries who told me they'd accept it considered it an ID card which is so false).
Who would have thought the passport card would be less powerful than EEA ID cards? It's madness, and the worst part is, it's largely Ireland's fault for artificially restricting it.
André Devecserii (talk) 10:08, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the old name trick. If something is controversial, change name. Ireland wanted to introduce id cards for EU travel according to EU standard. Since Ireland don't want to introduce id cards, they call them passports since the EU allows passports and id cards. I don't understand the problem with voluntary id cards, especially when passports exist, essentially the same thing as voluntary id cards. I asked the Irish authority on Twitter to make it linkable, and the answer is, Ireland has passport cards not id cards. https://twitter.com/BengtIngeL/status/667390892647522304 --BIL (talk) 07:35, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I think they take too far, however, when not even non-EU/EFTA countries that otherwise accept EEA ID cards (mainly the CEFTA states) will accept the passport card. André Devecserii (talk) 11:23, 16 December 2015 (UTC)

text: In my opinion, mandatory identity checks on police demands are more controversial than the words identity card. Some USA states have mandatory identity checks on police demand, which is called Stop and identify statutes. The USA has no mandatory id cards, instead they are called driver's licenses.--BIL (talk) 07:41, 8 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Passport Cards to Serbia 

message: :"Since passport cards have no space for affixing or stamping visas or entry / exit stamps, wider use of the Irish passport card for travel in future will be restricted to the small number of countries that issue e-Visas (such as Australia and Turkey) or that stamp entry on a separate piece of paper (such as Hong Kong, Israel or Ukraine)."
:The above plainly speculates on possible future events. We have no way of knowing whether any of these countries will ever accept an Irish passport card for entry, irrespective of their stamping policy. — Blue-Haired Lawyer t 00:47, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I absolutely agree with you, completely unnecessary text. Due to the artificial restriction the Irish government put on that card, it has become even less "powerful" than EEA ID cards (the passport cards aren't even accepted by CEFTA states, which EEA ID cards are, let alone in, for example, Hong Kong, something they confirmed to me via mail) André Devecserii (talk) 11:07, 8 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speculating on passport card acceptance 

message: Hi - I'm just seeking the views of other editors over whether the cost of the passport should be included on the article. If we are encyclopaedic, surely we shouldn't act as a travel guide? Regardless, the cost of the passport varies depending on the country it is applied from, and the service which you use. st170e 19:09, 11 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do we need to include passport costs? 

message: It is written in Identity document#Ireland that "Passport booklets, passport cards, driver's licenses, GNIB Registration Certificates and other forms of identity cards can be used for identification." At the same time User St170e who is citizen of Ireland removes a claim that the passport card is also an identity card and writes "Passport card serves purely for travel purposes only". Does that mean that cards for identification are never needed in Ireland, or that the passport card is not accepted for such purposes, or that one article is wrong? What is the truth?--BIL (talk) 21:56, 23 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course it can be used for identification, but writing it in the article implies that the passport card is a national identity card, which simply isn't the case. st170e 12:37, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Then what is the definition of an identity card, and if the passport card is not one, then what can we write? Identification card? Card usable for identification purposes? Is there a general term for what banks or other institutions needing to identify their clients, ask for? May I see your ... card?--BIL (talk) 15:13, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, usable for identification purposes is fine because it's government issued. I'm only stating we can't imply it is a national identity card because the government doesn't want one (and public opinion is against one). As long as we clarify it isn't a national identity card then it's fine. st170e 15:33, 24 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useful for identification? 

message: EU countries allow other EU citizens to prove it by showing their passport or identity card. There are two sources about that, no 19 and 20 in the article, which go to official legal or governmental information. No 20  is British and allows passport or a national identity card. Can someone find a source to if the Irish passport card is defined as a passport or an identity card internationally, like by UK police? The international ICAO standard  require passports to have a TD3 Size (88.0 mm × 125.0 mm) data page. Smaller card are called Official Travel Documents, but might if they can be called identity cards, might also be called passports? --BIL (talk) 14:48, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I've found this which is a UK government guide for identifying Irish nationals, and refer to the passport card in their own category. It's a confirmation of identity and of nationality, it's not an identity card and it's not a passport; it's regarded simply as a passport card. I'm going to find more info on the EU website. st170e 17:17, 25 January 2017 (UTC)

text: The EU, per this consider the passport card to be a 'travel document' issued to ordinary citizens. st170e 17:20, 25 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  International definition 

message: Passport card, 2nd para:
... the Irish passport card can be used for air travel and throughout the European Economic Area and Switzerland and some non-EEA countries such as Albania, Bosnia, Moldova, Montenegro, Serbia, Kosovo, North Macedonia, Montserrat...
Passport card, 4th para:
In addition, Serbia and North Macedonia, who accept identity cards from other EU countries, have stated they do not accept the Irish passport card, meaning Irish citizens remain obliged to present a passport book when entering those countries.
I don't know what the right answer is, but it seems that one of those two is probably wrong.
STeamTraen (talk) 19:54, 9 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Passport card and non-EU countries 

message: Shouldn't the map be updated to show that Irish passport holders can enter Kaliningrad Oblast with a free-of-charge e-visa? Ireland is the only English-speaking country whose nationals are part of this scheme. Unfortunately I don't know how to edit these maps. See https://electronic-visa.kdmid.ru/klgd_home_en.html NFH (talk) 18:19, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kaliningrad