Talk:Joaquín Torres García/Translation

message: Im going to use the talk page to translate a paragraph and when im finished ill transfer it to the actual article:
Tras una difícil infancia por los vaivenes económicos y domiciliarios de su familia, y una formación principalmente autodidacta, en 1890 Torres García se fijó como objetivo el emigrar a fin de formarse como pintor, pues llegó a la conclusión de que esa formación no la había de recibir correctamente en la capital de Uruguay. Así pues, junto a toda su familia decidió viajar a Europa en junio de 1891, contando con diecisiete años. La familia del padre los llevó directamente a Mataró. Allí Torres García empezó a asistir de día a una academia local, en la que aprendió las bases del oficio, y de noche a clases de dibujo en una escuela nocturna de Artes y Oficios. En 1892, la familia decidió afincarse en Barcelona, con ello, Torres García pudo ingresar en la Escuela de Bellas Artes de Barcelona.
becomes:
After a difficult childhood due to the economic ups and downs and his family's domiciliarios, and a formación principalmente autodidacta, in 1890 Torres García he decided at last to become a painter and came to the conclusion that that decision blah blah blah
I'm starting to get lost in the translation so feel free to make changes to what i've done so far or complete it if you can
212.120.248.128 (talk) 15:57, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Translating a paragraph

message: I'm not sure what to do with oficio in this article (as in him studying las bases del oficio). Normally, I'd go for "trade", but I don't usually think of being an artist as a "trade". Any thoughts? - Jmabel | Talk 00:28, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see that someone has opted for "craft", a good choice. - Jmabel | Talk 06:13, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Oficio'' 

message: Does anyone know the identity of "Planella" with whom he estanlished a friendship? http://senselimits.org/ppcc/planas.htm has a good listing of prominent Catalans by this name. Presumably, going by dates and profession one of the following:
* Planella i Rodríguez, Joan  (Barcelona, 1850 – 1910)  Pintor
* Planella i Roure, Alexandre  (Barcelona, 1866 – 1900)  Pintor
Anyway, I have no good guess between the two. - Jmabel | Talk 00:45, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Planella 

message: Any suggestions for translating "la franja diurna"? I'd take it in other contexts as "the twilight hours", but here that doesn't seem quite the right wording. The article seems to be saying that he fit classes at Academia Baixas before his night classes at the Escuela de Bellas Artes; I'm not sure why franja was chosen. Were these early-evening classes? This is one of those times when the lack of inline citations to get back toward a source is a pain. - Jmabel | Talk 06:18, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "la franja diurna" 

message: I think the biography section needs to be broken up into sub-sections because it is very long and looks cluttered. I would attemt it myself but I think it should be done by someone who knows the subject a lot better than me. GringoInChile (talk) 13:23, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biography 

message: I don't think it makes any sense to entitle a section "Last Days" when the time period mentioned spans 15 years -- a more appropriate title is needed instead of a direct translation from the spanish version of this article.151.204.157.58 (talk) 01:18, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Last Days" Section