Talk:Assisted reproductive technology

message: Does anybody have a better idea how to organize the manual techniques than by dependence of IVF or not? Mikael Häggström 18:18, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No need to, by the way. It's good as it is. Mikael Häggström 17:16, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other way of organizing 

message: Nothing on the legal aspects.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.190.109.88 (talk) 19:44, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wow 

message: There is what looks like a chunk of the original paragraph missing. Please track it down and repair, for I don't really trust myself in fixing it i might break the article even more --24.36.93.247 (talk) 18:05, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Got it. Melchoir (talk) 09:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism and Error in opening paragraph 

message: Wouldn't this whole section be better off in the IVF article? K. the Surveyor (talk) 04:27, 27 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Zealand 

message: Tony1, regarding this edit you made, I'd changed that part of the line to "are" in 2013 per the WP:Refers essay. Yes, WP:Refers is not a policy or a guideline, but a growing number of editors are following it. That stated, I understand what you mean about not using "are" for the line in question. Flyer22 (talk) 03:41, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: No link to this essay, and it is as you say, just an opinion piece with no force. Either way, you can't have a clash of singular and plural. Either "Assisted reproductive technologies (ARTs) are methods ..." or "Assisted reproductive technology (ART) is a suite of methods ...", or some such. Tony (talk)  03:47, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Tony1 (last time pinging you to this talk page via WP:Echo because I assume that you will check back here if you want to read replies), what do you mean by "No link to this essay"? I don't think that there is anything wrong with linking to an essay to defend an edit; it is commonly done regarding some essays, such as WP:BRD. Obviously, I'm not stating that WP:Refers has "force"; I'm stating that it has validity, and that a growing number of editors are deferring to it because of that validity. Bhny, as you can see from Bhny's contributions, is one of the main editors (or rather the main editor) who defers to the WP:Refers essay (it's been like that since I pointed Bhny to that essay). I already stated that I know what you mean by my having used "are" for the line in question. I am fine with your non-"refers to" suggestions for the line. Flyer22 (talk) 04:02, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, saw the link in the thread title only later. I don't buy that point as a catch-all, although I see that "refers to" and "describes" are often inappropriate. If that weighs so heavily on editors' minds, then let's examine a much more prominent grammatical problem in the opening sentence:Assisted reproductive technology (ART) is the use of procedures such as fertility medication, artificial insemination, in vitro fertilization and surrogacy to achieve pregnancy.Well, no, the technology is not "the use of". The technology exists whether it's used or not. Tony (talk)  04:38, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: By "use," you're referring to Bhny's changes to the line. I think that you and Bhny can work something out on that. I tweaked the lead following Bhny's changes, as seen here, here, here and here, but not the "use" part. Flyer22 (talk) 04:54, 18 December 2014 (UTC)

text: Bhny changed the lead again, as seen here; are you okay with that, Tony1? Flyer22 (talk) 18:14, 18 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Much better! Tony (talk)  04:30, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:Refers]]  

message: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)—which is required as a result of the 1992 Fertility Clinic Success Rate and Certification Act to publish the annual ART success rates at U.S. fertility clinics—defines ART to include "all fertility treatments in which both eggs and sperm are handled. In general, ART procedures involve surgically removing eggs from a woman's ovaries, combining them with sperm in the laboratory, and returning them to the woman's body or donating them to another woman." According to CDC, "they do not include treatments in which only sperm are handled (i.e., intrauterine—or artificial—insemination) or procedures in which a woman takes medicine only to stimulate egg production without the intention of having eggs retrieved."  The American Society for Reproductive medicine defines Assisted Reproductive Tehcnology as "Assisted reproductive technologies (ART). All treatments which include the handling of eggs and/or embryos. Some examples of ART are in vitro fertilization (IVF), gamete intrafallopian transfer (GIFT), pronuclear stage tubal transfer (PROST), tubal embryo transfer (TET), and zygote intrafallopian transfer (ZIFT)."— Preceding unsigned comment added by AngeliaPitman (talk • contribs) 17:50, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, thanks. i have added sourced content that this is the case in the US, EU, and at the WHO. OK to remove that stuff.  Please use edit notes in the future. Jytdog (talk) 18:22, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artificial Insemination is not an Assisted Reproductive Technology 

message: In July 2017, German parliament allowed same-sex marriages. Since that year also married lesbian couples got assisted reproductive technology in Germany. --178.11.1.2 (talk) 14:04, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Germany 

message: In July 2020 France parliament allowed  assisted reproductive technology also for lesbian couples and single women.
* Queer.de: Frankreich: Künstliche Befruchtung auch für lesbische Paare (german), July 21, 2020
* NOZ.de: Beifall im Parlament: Frankreich legalisiert künstliche Befruchtung für alle Frauen (german), July 31, 2020
--178.11.1.2 (talk) 14:04, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  France