Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Turkey/Archive 1

message: Excuse me I did not write this page I just want to show that anyone can edit these pages easily and the information is not always true.
Turkey is a reference to a "Land", or a bird. Republic of Turkey is a reference to a state, sometimes also called as (this is unfortunately an English bloody mistake) Turkey! So "Turkiye" not Turkey!  Turkish, Turks, etc is people. People build the "states". The common thing between the states is the people. Anatolia is also called as Turkey because Turks live in Anatolia. All these states (Ottoman, Republic of Turkey, etc) are states that has Turkish people in control. Not all of them centered in Anatolia or Turkey.--Karabekir 23:08, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkey  -> Turkish issues 

message: Ana sayfada Türkçe'mi kullanalım?
Bu arada hayırlı olsun. Taşın altına elini koyduğun için sağol ;)--Kagan the Barbarian 17:32, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bu benimde aklıma geldi, fakat diğer benzer projeleri incelediğimde İngilizce. İngilizce olmasının bir avantajıda İngilizce konuşan Türkler ve hiç Türkçe bilmeyen kullanıcılarında projeye dahil olma ihtimali. Projede yer almak isteyen kullanıcı sayısı 7-8 kişiyi bulduğunda aktifleştirebiliriz. Ugur Basak 17:41, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Ben başlamadan önce bir belli sayıda kullanıcının gelmesini ve daha sonra bir kaç aday koyarak ilerlemeyi tercih ediyorum. Kişisel fikrim olarakda en kolay olarak Turkey sayfasını FA yapmak güzel olur nede olsa History of Turkey, Turkey sayfasının alt sayfası olarak düşünülebilir. Ana sayfaya en hızlı koyabileceğimiz sayfalardan devam etmek daha mantıklı, tartışmalı maddelerden uzak duralımki yaptığımız işlerdeki verimliliğimiz yüksek olsun. WP:AID sayfasında Osmanlı Devleti ve Atatürk duruyorlar, belki onlar oranın sayesinde FA durumuna gelebilirler. Önemli olan aktif katılımcı sayımızın 5'den fazla olması. Ugur Basak 17:51, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Bir sayfanın şu an FA olması veya ileride FA olması onun daha çok geliştirilmeyeceği anlamına gelmiyor. OE sayfasına bizim ilgimiz olacak anlamında söylemedim, WP:AID buradan bağımsız bir proje. Neyse uzun lafın kısası, hele aradan 2-3 günlük bir süreç geçsin ve ilgisi olacak kullanıcıları görelim daha sonrası kolay. Ugur Basak 18:22, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Saposcat, anadilinin ingilizce olması avantajımıza. Küçük bir öneri olarak proje sayfasını izleme listene alarak takip edebilirsin. Tam çalışır duruma geldiği zaman, seçtiğimiz projeleri toplu olarak hızlı bir şekilde yüksek kalite seviyesine ulaştırabiliriz. --Ugur Basak 21:44, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: İzleme listeme aldım zaten; merak etme takip ediyorum. Genel olarak Türkiye'le ilgili makalelerin en büyük eksiklerinden biri dildir (öbürü sürekli POV oldukları). Ben, gerçek hayatta (Wikipedia'nın dışında yani) editörlük yapıyorum iş olarak—o yüzden burada da yaparım, ne olur. —Saposcat 22:01, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Benim bu proje ile ilgili temel fikrim az enerji ile çok iş yapabileceğimiz maddelere öncelik vermemiz (en azından bu proje içinde). Türkiye ve Türkiye tarihi ile ilgili en azından temel sayfalarımızı FA durumuna getirebilirsek geriside gelir zaten. --Ugur Basak 22:06, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Sign up at the Project main page and just keep an eye on the page to see where expansion/help is required. Bertilvidet 05:39, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dil 

message: I reconstructed this template. You may want to take at the bottom of Ottoman Empire how two templates appear. We can create a template structure like that. --Cool CatTalk|@ 21:07, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[template:Sultans of the Ottoman Empire]]

message: Şu adreste, ya da şuradaki şık "preceded by" "succeded by" kutucuklarından Osmanlı sadrazamları ve padişahları için de yapılmalı diyorum. Padişahlar için bir şablon var ama o da hepsini bir arada gösteren kocaman bir kutu şeklinde.
Şimdi soracağım şu: bu "preceded by" ve "succeded by" kutuları biyografilere tek tek mi koyuluyor, yoksa onların bir yerden bütün article'lara kopyalanmasını sağlayan başka bir yöntem mi var? Çok fazla teknik bilgi gerektiren bir şey değilse ben bu "succeded/preceded by" kutularından sadrazamlar ve padişahlar için olanlarını yapmak isterim, ne dersiniz, nasıl yapmalı?? Okan 12:27, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sultans and Grand Viziers 

message: I am not sure about how to fill the project page...I have started several pages related to Turkey (links from my user page), which all are stubs that deserve more attention. Should I list these as New articles?? And where to propose new articles? Maybe we should try to define some sub categories and collaborate within the categories where each of us have knowledge. For instance, I have been thinking of starting as various articles as Semdinli affair, Pera Müzesi, Konya Kebab and Aynur Dogan. I look forward to the collaboration. Bertilvidet 15:27, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Expanding the project

message: User Miskin is making redundant additions to the article, hurting its quality. Here it is (diff. in bold letters):
"Despite its extremely multi-ethnic character, the Ottoman state was commonly known in its days as the Turkish Empire."
I explained to him/her every recognised empire in history is multi-ethnic therefore that is a redundant addition to that sentence making it look like it was written by a retard, as if all empires aren't multi-ethnic and Turkish Empire is an exception. He/she is still reverting because he/she is a Greek vandal with twisted understanding of Turks and Turkish history. Please revert the article to my previous version (I can't anymore) and keep an eye on his/her edits.--Kagan the Barbarian 08:08, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism on the Ottoman Empire page 

message: We need to create an article about Southeastern Anatolia. It is the geopolitical name for the region and should replace Turkish Kurdistan.--Kagan the Barbarian 09:22, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Or a simple move. For now let the nonsense on the vfd die a bit. Sockpuppets? Votestacking? oh my. --Cool CatTalk|@ 18:27, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Absolute priority 

message: I've recently been told Image:Istanbul levent.jpg will be deleted unless i can find the copyright holder and copyright status. As far as i'm aware, all images on wowturkey.com are free for use as long as the logo remains, since my Turkish is not so good, would someone be able to find and translate the relevant information on copyright from their website? This way we can make clear for any future wowturkey images that they are free for use. Thanks. --A.Garnet 21:57, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it is free for use as long as not for commercial purposes. The summary of what they are saying: "We are very happy when our pictures are used and spread around the internet. It is our goal for this pictures to be seen by everyone. As long as not for commercial use, you can freely use these photos by asking permission and leaving the logo on the photo, if you remove the logo you should at least mention under the photo that its wowturkey property".--Kagan the Barbarian 08:58, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Discussion should continue at  --Cool CatTalk|@ 18:26, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  wowturkey.com 

message: Some Greek, Armenian and Kurdish POV pushers are trying to insert place names in their own languages in the opening line of Turkish cities, provinces etc. Turkish is the only official language throughout Turkey  - even Vartholomeos fills out his census form in Turkish. I urge you all to remove such nonsense from the opening line of any turkish place name articles you may come across. Thank you
:Either we talk to them and convince that it is unnecessary to give the Greek or Armenian name if there is no Greek or Armenian population living there or you add the Turkish name to certain Kurdish, Armenian and Greek locations.--Kagan the Barbarian 09:43, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to NPOV alternative names of the cilites are to be mentioned. We should prevent the purging. The ex-greek name of Istanbul is Constantinople and this is something no one is disputing.--Cool CatTalk|@ 18:15, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Parallel situations exist regarding cities of the former Poland-Lithuania and on the Danish-German border districts. In both cases, it is accepted to include historical names, so purges would be a very bad idea. E.g. the Lithuanian capital Vilnius was known for centuries as Wilno and Vilna, so it is relevant to include such information. The same is the case regarding Gdansk (Danzig). History often crosses modern borders. I don't think the history of the Ottoman Empire would make much sense if we only talk about modern Turkey :) Best regards. Valentinian (talk) 23:08, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Place names in Turkey 

message: Our Armenian brothers declared Mount Ararat as WikiProject:Armenia. I thought we should help them a bit and and added our tag as well. Regards.--Kagan the Barbarian 12:56, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mt Ararat 

message: Currently project is sleeping :(  Let's make a to-do list. I don't want to be the one like ruler, but just a proposal. Everyone of us can vote for 5 articles and if that article is not listed below he/she can add it to list. Than we can start from most voted article. And try to edit that article at least 5 times a day.
===Nominations===
;Turkey
#--Ugur Basak 13:31, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project is sleeping 

message: ;Turkey
#--Ugur Basak 13:31, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nominations

message: I have (for those who knew I was briefly out of the project) decided to join back in. Apologies if it bothered anyone; what can I say but that I did what I did in a fit of pique on a bad day.
Anyway, since the project is concentrated on Turkey- (and Turk-) (and Ottoman-) related articles, I thought I'd mention that my latest "big" activities in that regard have been on Fuzûlî, Nedîm, and (to a much lesser extent so far) Bâkî. Any assistance from those who are willing and/or able would, of course, be most appreciated. —Saposcat 19:21, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome back. Saposcat, most of us here are of Turkish origin, that's why your presence here is even more important for NPOV. Also your editorial skills and knowledge in Turkish literature are very valuable. Just know that, if there's a problem we can solve it through discussion, after all what's important here is compromise for the good of the project. That said, thank you for coming back.--Kagan the Barbarian 07:48, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Recent activities 

message: The ziyaret article is basically a stub and needs more info. The ziyarat article is an attempt to list all the places of pilgrimage (tombs of Sufi pirs and the like). We only have one site for Turkey, the tomb of Rumi. Please help out with more sites and pictures, also info on government attitudes towards shrines (put in Ziyaret). Zora 00:41, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help requested at [[Ziyarat]] and [[Ziyaret]] 

message: Ne hazırlayacağımız hakkında bir bilgisi olan var mı? Inanna 20:43, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proje ile İlgili 

message: Seeing how the Ottoman Empire article is now part of the article improvement drive, I was wondering if anyone here in the project might be willing to help out on it: I've been doing as much as I can, but lately I've been about the only one, and the article is still quite a mess in a number of ways (reference-wise, organization-wise, writing-wise, etc.). Is anyone here willing to lend a hand? —Saposcat 07:28, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah you've done a great job saposcat, unfortunately i've been so inundated with work at the moment i've no time to contribute. As soon as i get time I plan to get involved. --A.Garnet 10:28, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: [[Ottoman Empire]] 

message: Hello all. I am leaving this note to say that we might want to think about removing User:-Inanna- from the Participants list insofar as she (I believe that -Inanna- is a she and not a he) has been blocked indefinitely. I didn't want to do it myself just yet without at least bringing the issue up here first. —Saposcat 07:36, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Having received no response to the above note, I'm going to—in a manner of speaking—be bold and remove indefinitely blocked User:-Inanna- from the list of participants. —Saposcat 09:36, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: [[User:-Inanna-]] 

message: The Turkey portal had been under constraction ever since it was created in December. I have re-designed it, filled it with content and I take the responsibility to keep it updated every week. I am also doing its sister portal in Hungarian wiki:  Turkey portal in Hungarian. You can expect that to avoid extra work, each week I will put the same related articles and photos into both of them (that is, if the article exists in both wikipedias).  
Also I would like to introduce myself, as a newcomer to the project. I hope you will take me :) (You can also view my profile :)) 
So my name is Timea, I'm a native Hungarian, I speak English, Russian and also Turkish.  Türkcem hala pek net degil ama :) I've been learning it for two years now, tek basima, on my own, without teachers, from books and from MSN chatting :) I am devoted to Turkey, I consider it my second home and hopefully soon I will be able to call it my "first home". I took the task to make as many Turkey-related articles in the Hungarian wiki as possible because it has less then a hundred, and my major source is the English wiki, that is YOUR work, so I am grateful :) I thought to join you and help in the english wiki as well, I was so sad about the half-made portal I decided to take it. Herkese selamlar, -- Teemeah 16:42, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portal and introduction

message: The Turkey-geo-stub category is probably ready for a split, considering that there are 997 stubs under the category. Before bringing it up at WP:Stub Sorting, I thought I'd mention it here to get input about what regions it should split by. Any ideas?Aelfthrytha 02:58, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Aelfthrytha Turkey has 7 regions as you can see in Geography_of_Turkey#Regions. And each reason has several ils(cities), and each city has some ilçes(district). I don't know your policy about splitting geo stubs, but i can try to help you. --Ugur Basak 07:07, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

text: heh that was exaclty what I proposed. Now we need to help stub sort... --Cat out 22:28, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{tl|Turkey-geo-stub}} split 

message: There are a wave of editors who seem to declare random provinces and cities to be kurdish dominant. Since there we do not even have a census or any reliable source of information regarding ethnicity statistics in Turkey, I feel this is a bad practice. Suggestions? --Cat out 22:26, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Provinces and cities in South eastern Turkey

message: This article needs expanding. Since there has been recent events involving this bratch we should perhaps give improvement of this article a priority. --Cat out 11:59, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[High Court of Appeals (Turkey)]]

message: User named Ozgurgerilla is an active supproter of the terrorist organization, PKK. He mentions this himself in his user page, everyone can look at it. I'm offering to remove his name from the participant list. With respect, the son of the warrior nomads, Deliogul 15:57, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The aim of this project is to expand articles related to Turkey - not to push a certain POV. Any user is thus welcome to participate, irrespective of their personal convictions. I can see from your userpage, that not being a Turk is a reason to be hated by you. I hope, despite your hatred, that you are willing to collaborate with non-Turks on this global encyclopedia. Bertilvidet 16:56, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Inappropriate Participants 

message: To anyone interested in or knowledgable on the subject, I've tagged the "Work" section in the Fuzûlî article with an original research dispute tag. Though (or perhaps because) I wrote the section myself, I've realized that it needs references and support for its claims; without them, it's definitely original research.
If anyone is willing to flesh out (or rewrite) the section so as to make it not original research, it would be greatly appreciated (and in the long run, probably beneficial to this project as well). Cheers. —Saposcat 09:59, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: [[Fuzûlî]] 

message: I wonder why no Turkish editor is participating in the Armenian Genocide article. I'm trying to add/improve the discussion on the position of Western Scholars  and defending it in the talk page , , and . But some editors keep reverting the article  although they don't participate in any of the discussions. I'd certainly appreciate some help. Deepblue06 17:35, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Burada ingilizce konuşunuz lütfen. Aelfthrytha 15:28, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Bu konuda dialog ve iletişim kurmak çok zor.  Sinir bozukluğundan başka birşeye yaramaz.  (Translation: Establishing communication and dialog in this matter is very hard.  It's just source for stress and bad for your nerves.) --Gokhan 13:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From Iğdır to İzmir they are adding Armenian related stuff to the articles, mostly about Armenian deads of course. The way I see it is a propagandist tactic of theirs, they might even have schools for these things. So as the previous poster said any future conversation or edit war seems pointless.--Kagan the Barbarian 15:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I wonder why this master piece propaganda article has a "This is a Wikiproject Turkey article" on discussion page while it is impossible to add any information that proves that there was no genocide? If you people are really working for Turkey, then please remove it since it gives an illusion like the people that think the other way can also edit it. 85.97.143.100 17:47, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armenian Genocide 

message: I am going through  category for cleaning. I noticed that there are several articles which appeared there which reference outdated (i.e. Ottoman era) encyclopedic sources. Also, there are some articles which don't give enough information about the places referenced. However, because I am in the middle summer travel, I don't have enough sources to be able to deal with it right now. Here is a list: Euyuk, Dinar, Turkey, Enos, Turkey, Cebeci, Iskelib, Issus (town), Mar Bishu. Aelfthrytha 15:44, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! Aelfthrytha 20:52, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outdated Articles: Assistance Request 

message: For the ones that is interested in history, please check the article Van Resistance. Thanks.--OttomanReference 19:42, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  There is an article that needs attention. 

message: Selamlar, I've recently signed up on WikiPedia after some lurking, and decided to join this Project for... obvious reasons. ;p
I've done Ahmet Kanneci and some of his album and I'll be working on other Turkish musicians in a timely matter. I was thinking of doing groups such as Laço Tayfa, Tamburada etc, and if you'd like to see other Turkish bands - musicians on Wikipedia, just drop me a note. Kedi the tramp 09:03, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Tamburada and their album. Kedi the tramp 09:57, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Member 

message: Hey all, your input would be well received here: Wikipedia:Greek/Turkish naming conventions. - FrancisTyers · 20:24, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: RfC survey

message: Hi, it has come to my attention that there are some users systematically moving biographies of Turkish people from the Ottoman period from Turkish spelling into Arabic transliteration (like User:Cunado19 moving Abdülmecid to ‘Abdu’l-Mijid I), without any discussion. I know that some Ottomans used Arabic names, but I think these biographies should have Turkish titles because it is obvious that these are Turkish people and the standard should be how their names are written with the Turkish alphabet (this is also the standard in the majority of history books). I just wanted to let you know. Regards, Atilim Gunes Baydin 14:15, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey, that was something that really pissed me off (God knows why), so I have brought the issue up on the Wikipedia:Manual of Style (Arabic), which deals with the matter in question—but has thus far given short shrift (i.e., no shrift at all) to the pecularities involved with Ottoman Turkish romanization. Hopefully, the matter can somehow be resolved soon, a standard will be put in place, and we can all sleep a little more soundly at night. —Saposcat 12:45, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: People moving Ottoman biographies into Arabic titles

message: Someone from the Turkish Wikipedia left me a message  saying they'd had some problem with their recent changes page. . I don't speak Turkish, and I'm not sure what the problem is, so I figured I'd pass it on here.--Cúchullain t/c 22:50, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Turkish Wikipedia

message: Dear Wikiproject Turkey members, I want to bring to your attention the current voting on Meta-Wiki  for the creation of an Ottoman Turkish version of Wikipedia, which is held under this comment:
"The Ottoman language was the offictial language of the Ottoman Empire. This once great empire had it's origin in central Turkey, and made it's capital at Istanbul in 1453. It onced stretched from Morrocco to Iraq, and from Hungary to Yemen. The Ottoman Empire brought together many diverse peoples, and the language was important in the middle east, and has a rich cultural heritage. However, this wasn't enough to save it from Atatük's Turkish language "reform". Thanks to him, Turks today can hardly understand spoken Ottoman, much less written. It is very similar, though, and some Turks still study the language as part of their history. I don't speak Ottoman, but I want to see Wikipedia in this language. I will contact people who know Ottoman on English Wikipedia."
The brief introduction of the Ottoman Empire and language is followed by a highly POV statement regarding Atatürk's acts in 1920's and 1930's and I can't help sensing that the owner of the proposal has no knowledge of the circumstances of the time, how the Republic of Turkey was born from a dead empire, how the Turkish language and history was studied for the first time by institutions founded by Atatürk, nor has he an appreciation of the gains the Turkish people experienced thanks to the language and alphabet reform. Were it not like this, I would at least be neutral on this vote. I urge you to join the discussion there, because the voter group currently consists of individuals asking, while voting, if Arabic and Turkish are similar in terms of linguistics. Atilim Gunes Baydin 12:34, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voting for Ottoman Turkish Wikipedia 

message: The article on Ahmet Köksal, a Turkish author and project manager, has been listed at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Ahmet Köksal. Please look there to see why this is, if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. --TruthbringerToronto (Talk | contribs) 13:52, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AfD nomination: [[Ahmet Köksal]] 

message: Hi. I'd really appreciate it if a native speaker of Turkish could try to perform two tasks that would help people like me, who aren't (and are terribly lost when confronting letters like those in "İsmet İnönü")
*It would be tremendously helpful to have the IPA pronunciations for at least all Presidents of Turkey, and maybe later other articles with turkish titles
*It would be even more helpful to have some .ogg pronunciation files (see for example Hồ Chí Minh)
Many thanks for anybody that undertakes this! --Storkk 15:42, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Help Request

message: This article about a Turkish musician has been listed for deletion via PROD. The "Media" section of his homepage includes a large number of scanned clippings from various Turkish media sources, but unsurprisingly, none are written in English. Could you please take a few minutes to evaluate them and see whether they confirm the claims of notability made in the article? Thanks. -Hit bull, win steak(Moo!) 13:24, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Mert yucel]]

message: Slm arkadaşlar, WikiProject_Turkey ' e katılmak istiyorum. Ermenilerin hazırladığı sayfalara bakıyorum da gerçekleri bilmesem çok kolay yerim bu palavraları. Sizlerle ortak bir çalışma yapalım istiyorum. Ermenilerin sürgünden önce yaptıkları mezalimi tüm ayrıntılarıyla fotoğraflar ve videolarla burada anlatalım - tabi ingilizce olarak - Haklı olduğumuz bir davada elimizden geleni yapalım, onlardan daha fazla vatanımızı milletimizi sevdiğimizi gösterelim. Gerçekleri belgelerle yazışmalarla buraya taşıyalım. En azından bunu yapmalıyız çünkü haklı olan taraf biziz. Umarım bana destek olursunuz, saygılarımla. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Obsteel (talk • contribs) .
:Hatta Türk Soykırımı "Turkish Genocide" diye bir konu açmalıyız. Bu konuda Ermenilerin biz Türklere yaptığı işkenceleri belgeleriyle fotoğraflarla anlatabiliriz. Elimde bir kaç saatlik araştırma sonucunda bikaç fotoğraf bulabildim eminim çok daha fazla kaynak var bu konuda.Obsteel 10:28, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sözde Ermeni soykırımı 

message: I am trying to find information about the status of this bridge.  There is virtually no information available on-line in English.  Has the project been cancelled?  If not, when will construction begin?  Any information will be appreciated.  Either respond here, on my talk page, or by editing the article.  Thank you. -- Samuel Wantman 18:39, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help requested with  [[Izmit Bay Bridge]] 

message: Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory.  This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.   B2T2 16:58, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project directory 

message: Please see my comments at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Airports#Esenboga International Airport. The link was added to Turkey and possibly another Turkish article. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 11:16, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fake link being added to Turkish articles

message: Hi,
I love Turkey, its culture, and history, though I'm not an advanced student and haven't visited as often as I'd like. I've made a few changes to the Topkapı Palace page and am starting on some of the stubs related to Istanbul. 
The wikipedia guidelines suggest breaking long articles into shorter, separate ones. I'd be glad to give it a try unless anybody objects. 
Afeeney 01:29, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New participant saying hello/merhaba 

message: Dear Turkey, some of You seem to have added this article to Your list of Turkey-related articles to be improved. I hope this will not result in a surge of edits propagating a linguistic postulation which is at the moment held to be non-existent. Furthermore, I fail to see how such a hypothetical construct would particularly be Turkey-related? The relationship between Turkey and the Ural-Altaic languages is comparable to the relation between e.g. England and the Indo-Uralic languages, i.e. not very direct, dubious even. Clarifer 15:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  dear Cléarifer it is quite unusual that you say it has nothing to do with Turkey when Turkey's population is 98% Turkish, and they speak the Turkish language which belongs to the ALTAIC group of languages... so I cannopt see how ural-ALTAIC langugaes are UNRELATED to Turkey?? Ok that this is a controversial topic as some linguists say Turkish i altaic some say it isn't but the fact that the topic is unsettled yet, doesn't mean that the THEORY cannot belong to a Turkish category, as the language is PART OF the disputed theory! --Teemeah Gül Bahçesi 17:20, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Dear Teemeah, please pay attention to what I wrote. Whether Turkish is an Altaic language and whether an entire LANGUAGE FAMILY is somehow PARTICULARLY country related has nothing to do with my notion. (Also please compare this to following strange claim: The article Indo-European languages is a particularly Iceland related article). We are talking about the speculative macro family of languages termed "the Ural-Altaic languages" (consisting of the family of the Uralic languages and the, itself controversial, family of the Altaic languages). Most modern linguists consider such a constellation NON-EXISTENT. How, then, could Turkey (a state) be particularly related to a completely speculative language family? Clarifer 15:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  that its inhabitants supposedly speak a language which supposedly comes from a speculative language family??? Till the issue is not decided by linguists fully, then I suggest we should leave this discussion. by the way, now the hungarian language origins as coming from the finno-ugrian group is now disputed by several linguists, so should we then delete the Hungarian languge from the adequate category just because the theory is disputed? until linguists decide FOR SURE, we should just leave everythuing as it is. my 5 cents..--Teemeah Gül Bahçesi 20:37, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed. And because "as it is" in terms of the Ural-Altaic hypothesis is that no such a thing exists, we should leave the Altaic and the Uralic language families separate until there's some evidence of a special relation between them. Until this happens, such a constellation remains a mere speculation just as the macro family of Indo-Uralic languages does. If in the future Hungarian is placed into the family of the Altaic languages, then so be it. Clarifer 09:26, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Ural-Altaic languages]] 

message: I have initiated a request for comment regarding the Turkish Van page. The discussion is at Talk:Turkish Van#Request for comment. Any and all responses are welcome. Badbilltucker 15:11, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for comment 

message: I noted that the Koldang dog is currently under protection by the Turkish government on the Van Kedisi page. There is to my knowledge no content on the Koldang dog in the English wikipedia. If anyone has any information on this animal, the creation of even a minimal page would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Badbilltucker 17:30, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Koldang dog 

message: The timeline for Kurdistan Workers Party/Timeline is put into deletion; If you are interested, please check its page.--OttomanReference 19:01, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A timeline is asked to be deleted. 

message: He is trying to make turkey look like a country of stone age illiterates and worst of all attribute this to Kurds. in a very racist way. I have tried to revert his very poor additions, but he is very stubborn about it. Help save the image of Turkey, turks and kurds and stop this wacko
:Watch for civility. That wacko spent tens of hours cleaning up that article and finding sources. I found 60 out of 70 sources cited in the article. Literacy figures are mentioned in every single country article, and they will stay. All that information is sourced. Do not touch them. Baristarim 23:50, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If it is true then it can't be racist.--Doktor Gonzo 19:49, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baristarim on turkey 

message: I think that we should begin projects on Turkish television shows too. I've just added Sıla (from ATV). Can I put the WikiProject Turkey template on it? -- WiiVolve 13:21, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Television Shows 

message: Please could people leave their comments at Talk:Pontic Greek Genocide in order to achieve and improve consensus. - Francis Tyers · 12:19, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please vote on this poll before something bad is done. -- WiiVolve 11:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments on [[Talk:Pontic Greek Genocide]]

message: Please compare these two article discussions.
Greek War of Independence</br >
Turkish War of Independence
Why does the Greek War of Independence article only have the WikiProject History of Greece template while the Turkish War of Independence article has BOTH that and our template? I think that either they should remove their template from the Turkish article, or we should place a template onto their article. I understand how both articles have to do with each other, but something is not right (uneven) here. Either their's should go, or our's should come in. -- WiiVolve 05:30, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please Support 

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 20:58, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: I would ASK you all to HELP with the portal! It is totally abandoned by all Turkish editors and I feel ashamed that I, a FOREIGNER, have to do all the work on the portal totally alone, and none of the proud Turks give a damn about it.... Someone nominated it for featured status (without even having a look at the nomination criteria), just read what they said about it... Wikipedia:Featured portal candidates/Portal:Turkey/archive1. Some maniac now and then reverts my Atatürk motto - and that's all that is done by other users. I BEG, please try to help me keeping this portal alive, I'm not really a genius in technical things, so don't know how to improve layout etc. properly. It could be given a better layout that is worthy of a featured staus and the news section could be improved (better by those who actually LIVE in Turkey and know what important topics are on agenda). 
Lütfen yardim edin, gercekten cok üzüldüm, Türkiye Portali TÜRKLER'IN Umrunda degil, cok yazik... --Teemeah Gül Bahçesi 21:13, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portal problems HEEELP FOR GOD'S SAKE - Lütfen yardim edin ya...