Talk:Philippe Leclerc de Hauteclocque

message: Merged material in from Jacques Philippe Leclerc - it seemed silly to have two articles on one person. ... and a lot of material from the fr: page, who I assume have the name correct. Shimgray 22:22, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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message: The French general showed here with (from left to right) US general Bradley, US general Eisenhower and British air chief marshal Tedder is not general Leclerc, but is actually general Koenig, the military governor of Paris. The date may be 29 august 1944, during a parade of American troops on the Champs-Elysées avenue in Paris. --Sbene (talk) 19:42, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
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message: I have removed the above-named section and retained it here for further reference.  There are a number of reasons for doing so.  It's incorrect and also shoddily sourced, which is no good for verifiability or credibility.
What this section was perhaps alluding to was an incident involving the 2e D.B. of the French Army in Bad Reichenhall on 8 May 1945 (a very long way from the Rhein-Lahn mentioned in the section).  11 or 12 members of the "Charlemagne" Waffen-Gren. Regt. der SS 58, prisoners of the French were summarily executed.  It is NOT known who gave the order.  See For Europe: The French Volunteers of the Waffen-SS by Robert Forbes, pp. 480s.  The website given as a source is unsourced and could easily be argued to be biased due to its condemnation of left-wing groups.  The other source, Whiting's Operation Northwind, a book on the Battle of the Bulge, is cited with no page references.
--Harlsbottom (talk | library) 20:23, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Killing of French POW's" 

message: The article states "After the armistice was signed on 22 June, French soldiers were simply allowed to go home, and the Germans were friendly towards de Hauteclocque, especially when they discovered that he spoke fluent German."
What???? French soldiers were NOT simply allowed to go home, and most well educated French people at the time spoke German, nothing out of the way there.
Whoever wrote this never heard of the 1.5 million French POWs! According to the French Wikipedia on Leclerc, he did exactly what my father, also a French officer, did before the armistice in June 1940 became effective - get authorization from his commanding officer to leave and try to go to London, where they would be more useful than in a POW camp.82.120.237.109 (talk) 09:14, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I wrote it and I have heard about the 1.5 million POWs. They were captured before the Armistice became effective. It was hoped that they would soon be released, but only a few were. The majority remained in POW camps for the duration. Leclerc obtained permission from his commanding officer to make his way back to French lines and rejoin the fight, which he did, not to go to London. From memory, he was listed as a deserter. Hawkeye7 (talk) 10:17, 31 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  French POWs during WWII 

message: Am currently re-reading Jean Lacouture's classic life of Charles de Gaulle. It states that during his attack on Cameroon in August 1940, Leclerc promoted himself to Colonel in order to wield more weight with the Vichy defenders and the natives. He apologised for this in a cable to de Gaulle. A glance at the table of promotions at the bottom of the article says that he jumped from major (a rank he was given in late July, prior to leaving for Africa) to full colonel on 27 August. 27 August was the date Cameroons came over to the Free French (Chad 26 August, French Congo 28 August). Maybe it was retrospectively approved to that date. He then became an acting brigadier-general later in autumn of 1940.Paulturtle (talk) 00:16, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Moore says: "LeClerc and Boislambert promoted themselves, LeClerc to colonel and Boislambert from captain to commandant. Re-sewing their gallons, there was just enough tape to give LeClerc five bars on each cuff and only one complete sleeve for Boislambert." The memorial says that LeClerc was promoted to lieutenant colonel on 27 August 1940; but it's clear from the source that he wore a colonel's stripes. If you have a page number in Lacouture, we can add it to the article. Hawkeye7 (talk) 21:48, 30 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-Appointed Colonel 

message: Was it normal for a captain to command three battalions in France in 1940? I'd think it odd for him to command one at that rank. There's no reference given. CsikosLo (talk) 18:32, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commanding three battalions? 

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