Talk:Steve Mann (inventor)

message: Here's a selection of some of the multiple Wikipedia articles in which Steve Mann appears with unrelated, ambiguous, self-referenced or misleading information:
*Cyberman (film) 
*Quintephone 
*Telepointer 
*Hydraulophone 
*Sousveillance 
*Cyborg
*Surveillance 
*Computer-mediated reality 
*Keyer
*EyeTap
*Mobile blogging 
*Kevin Warwick
*SixthSense
*Microsoft SenseCam
*Chirplet transform 
*Scratch input
*Electrocardiophone 
*High dynamic range imaging
*Lifecasting (video stream) 
*Wearable computer 
*Surveillance art
*Surveillance art
*Electroencephalophone
*Natural user interface 
*Chair 
*Synesthesia 
*Computational photography (artistic)
*Lifelog    
*Wearable technology 
*Exocortex 
*Hacker (hobbyist) 
*MyLifeBits
I don't understand why Wikipedia allows this. In most articles he appears as a pioneer and inventor with no reliable references. He also creates completely new articles to explain his own projects. And he appears to be a pioneer in many fields since the 1970s whereas he was still a teenager in 1979.    — Preceding unsigned comment added by Graham apartknows (talk • contribs) 02:26, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Steve Mann's evident use of Wikipedia for personal promotion 

message: I consolidated the "cyborg" theme, including the movie, because there seems to be were the personal and very public items occur. 69.181.82.221 22:03, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cyborg theme 

message: Regarding the description of the Air Canada incident, while the "Mann as Cyborg" paragraph _is_ careful to note that the statement involved are claims of Prof. Mann's, as opposed to verified fact, it might be useful to link statements from people who have actually worked with him (perhaps scour Slashdot for the old threads on the subject; a few of his grad students spoke up there). Specifically:
* Contrary to the claims quoted, Prof. Mann had no "cybernetic implants" at the time of the incident. He had his usual wearable computer rig, and ECG electrodes glued to his chest to measure heart activity.
* Contrary to claims Prof. Mann frequently makes, he appears to function without any impairment without his "reality mediation" goggles. I've seen him in the lab routinely without them, as have several other students who have worked with him. His eyeglasses are just eyeglasses (and I've seen him without them, too) - it's the wraparound shades that are the wearable computer display.
* Contrary to claims Prof. Mann had been reported to make to security personnel at Air Canada, his computer equipment would not have been damaged by passing through the x-ray machine, and could have been power-toggled to demonstrate functionality (the test usually asked for electronics that you don't want to put through the x-ray). At the time of the incident, his "wearcomps" were off the shelf "Cappuccino" small form-factor PCs that had been slightly modified.
All of this information is first-hand, from the time that I worked with Prof. Mann on a fourth-year project, and from interactions during my MASc (my cube was right next to his lab, and some of the facilities I used were in the lab itself). I feel that it is important for the controversy over Prof. Mann's claims to be reflected in the article. --Christopher Thomas 16:15, 24 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: At the time I was interacting with him (in the fall term of 1999, for directly working with him, and from fall 2000 through the end of summer 2003, for being in the same lab), he had no implanted devices whatsoever. He had computers that were carried in a fanny pack at his belt, which connected to wearable displays that looked like wraparound shades. Accessories that I know about are webcam-type cameras (not sure how they were mounted, as I didn't get a look at those rigs), and ECG electrodes (which he didn't usually wear at the time I was at U of T) which I heard him describe as being glued to his skin to measure heart activity. At the time I worked with him, the computers were off-the-shelf "cappuccino" small form-factor PCs, and the displays were commercially available wearable displays (though I've seen a patch-wired electronics rig in one of his setups, and he tried at one point to integrate displays into eyeglass lenses, without success). His usual claim at the time I was working near him was that he had "reality mediation software" constantly running that took camera data and gave him a synthetic view of reality on his visor (top-down map was one claim that was reported to me, though I didn't hear him say _that_ one directly), and that he can't function without this modified view of the world. In practice, I'm not sure his systems at the time were capable of doing exactly what was described under real-world conditions, and he routinely walked around the lab (and university) without his display. --Christopher Thomas 05:32, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Counterpoint to the Air Canada incident claims. 

message: Following the sense of Wikipedia_talk:External_links, i added a signup warning for the NYT.  I bet something better could be found that wouldn't put readers thru signup.  Thx, hope this helps, "alyosha" (talk) 22:37, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subscription required for NYT 

message: someone want to make an update to that image? it's a bit dated  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.181.15.16 (talk) 09:01, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "wearable evolution" image 

message: * The article said Mann was the first to "automatically extend dynamic range in an image by combining multiple differently exposed pictures of the same subject matter". Does it mean he invented High dynamic range imaging (I think Mann claims this)? If so, a proper English explanation and link are due.
Answer: "The first report of digitally combining multiple pictures of the same scene to improve dynamic range appears to be Mann." in "Estimation-theoretic approach to dynamic range enhancement using multiple exposures" by Robertson etal, JEI 12(2), p220, right column, line 26
* The article should explain why he was refered to as Cyborg. Did he have implants then? If he has ones nowadays, this is also noteworthy.
109.67.203.144 (talk) 18:03, 17 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: His EyeTap glasses are apparently bolted to his skull. Does this count?--Auric (talk) 03:43, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cyborg 

message: The title of that section sounds like it was proven to be a publicity stunt, rather than an accusation of one.--Oscaron (talk) 19:08, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: French McDonald's Publicity Stunt

message: The only sources here are the popular press, and speculation + hearsay.
Therefore this material is not suitable for a biography of living persons.
Rather than outright deletion of this material, however, there is a proper place for this material in the McDonalds Wikipedia entry under "Controversies".
:Many BLP entries are from the popular press.
::P.S. Please sign your contributions. Bellagio99 (talk) 14:27, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Contentious material about living persons that is poorly sourced

message: I want to know why my comments are being removed on the talk page. Glogger (Steve Mann himself) is the heaviest contributor in many subjects related with the technology (e.g. See sousvelliance, and it is an attempt to use wikipedia as an advertising platform. It appears to me , even the neutrality of the Talk page is in dispute. Dsnipper (talk) 17:37, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, that was me, it's for two reasons: (1) If you have an issue with any Steve Mann's contributions to this page, point out which edits he did that are factually incorrect, it's not fair to just accuse a man of self-advertising without any specific evidence, for example, he isn't calling himself the world's first cyborg, that is a quote from magazines/papers, so just point out which edits you think he did that are factually incorrect, but no character assassinations please (2) You're a bit of a vandal see: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=SMS_language&diff=prev&oldid=361161304 (I like Ali G as much as anyone else, but come on!)  Damiantgordon (talk) 21:57, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  my comments are being removed 

message: Why photo was changed? 
Revision comment says 'Updated the 2 pictures (clearer pictures)', yet i think its now just fragment of previous photo.
Maybe it wasn't best photo of Steve Mann, but at-least there was his face, and now there is more of this AR device on this picture than his face.
I think this change should be reverted. 194.44.15.90 (talk) 11:53, 1 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: Is there evidence that this individual should be identified as "self promoting" (more than anyone else)? I have removed that reference but if it is accurate can someone give a citation for why it should be left in place?--   🍺  Antiqueight confer 21:03, 19 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self promotion 

message: I'm not sure if this is relevant but I want to weigh in on the publicity stunt theme. One has to question if the "temporary storage buffer" is either temporary or a buffer:
"Due to the employees alleged rough handling of the device, which he claimed was soundly attached to his head, the temporary storage buffer in the computer system could no longer be overwritten by new images, the damage to the system thus causing photos of these persons to remain stored in the glass memory."
As a computer engineer, I can definitively say that it is extremely unlikely that the memory stopped recording and saved very clear images of the McDonald's employees (published on http://eyetap.blogspot.ca/) but was not broken all together. This lends credence to the idea that this is a publicity stunt.--Rotellam1 (talk) 23:07, 30 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Temporary" storage "buffer" and Publicity Stunt 

message: It's awfully distracting. 
Wish | Talk 21:19, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove this gif from the articleǃ 

message: This page should not be speedily deleted because... (your reason here) --
It is a straightforward biographical page that describe the work of an important scholar. It has stood for a number of years, and it is puzzling that a new editor comes on to delete it.Bellagio99 (talk) 01:49, 11 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contested deletion