Talk:Petar Delyan

message: Look,if we like to be neutral,we must consider that that what today mean word "bulgarian" is not with the same meaning in mediaeval(for me),especially if we like to quote byzantine sources.For byzanntines,all people who was under Bulgarian rule were bulgarians,people from Macedonia,whole Serbia,even Bosnia.It's true that this countries were conqured by bulgarians and were part of First Bulgarian Empire,that's why byzantines refer to this population as bulgarians.But,it's evident that those population wasn't racially homogenous,for simple reason:modern peoples from these countries and Bulgaria,even today are racially different,thus must be that they are different before 10 centuries,if we know that there is not some significant migrations on Balkans last 10 centuries between these countries.So,maybe I'm bore,but my point is:there is no nations on Balkans in mediaeval with same sense like today,bulgarian today and in mediaeval have not same meaning,and for byzantines whole Slavic population on Balkans is bulgarian.
From those population on Balkans,today grow Serbian,Montenegrian,Bosnian,Macedonian and modern Bulgarian nation.
We have not evidences for nationality of Petar Delyan,but in this light we don't need it.But we can say about reasons for uprising of Petar Delyan and we can say what were objectives of this uprising.If the objectives were restoration of Bulgarian state,with same center of power,and with the same political and military organisation,then provide facts or logical conclusions about that.
If he adopted the name of emperor Peter I,what was the reason for that,some benfitions or something?
I read the all article and discussions,but I haven't found real reasons to believe that the goal of uprising was restoration of Bulgarian state,but I'm willing to believe that goal was separation of byzantine empire.Those countries where rebbelion appear weren't originaly bulgarian,but conquered from bulgarian emperors.So pls,explain me:did you think that is logical somebody to make rebellions against one conqueror for restoration of power of his previous conqueror.
I would here to notice that in same light we can see the uprisings of comitopules in Macedonia in 969,and reign of tzar Samoil,but this is not the place about that.
So,beside nationals feeling of modern Bulgarians,Macedonians and Serbs,I'm just a person who like to know more about the mediaeval history of Balkan.If here exist some real historian,I will be very grateful for answers and comentaries of my opinions.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.125.186.160 (talk) 12:38, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't waste it, Jingiby. It's one and the same person trying to make a mockery of Wikipedia. The first and the second IP belong to the same person and I know a lot about that Karpos guy already. --Laveol T 12:19, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

text: You must know the saying "Guzen neginen byaga"? Nevermind, no need to defend yourslef. I've seen your edits, tried to assume good faith and was convinced by your further edits that there is no such thing. You're not interested in any science, you don't care about it provided it suits a certain agenda. Pretending to be two different people (or there is a slight chance you don't) does not help your cause. Thank you and you're welcome to Wikipedia like evrybody else. Your disruptive edits in the past were not as welcome, though. Thank you. --Laveol T 13:13, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Connections between First Bulgarian Empire and modern Bulgaria 

message: I understand the theme cited in "During the summer of 1040 in the theme of Bulgaria" is a reference to the northern region of the Macedonian theme. Is that correct or was there a bulgar theme that I'm not aware of? José Luiz  talk 02:44, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The article has a map of Byzantine themes during Basil's rule. --Laveol T 03:01, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but was "Bulgaria" ever a theme? I don't think so. Is there any source that call the region that way at that time? José Luiz  talk 03:08, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There is an article on the topic with a source to go with it (albeit just a single one). A quick google book search will do wonders. --Laveol T 06:50, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! José Luiz  talk 21:19, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theme of Bulgaria 

message: FYI: there is request to move the article Peter IV of Bulgaria to Peter II of Bulgaria on the relevant Talk page. Borsoka (talk) 12:07, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the note. I would've missed it otherwise. --Laveol T 12:58, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter IV of Bulgaria 

message: Is this article's best title Petar Delyan or Peter Delyan?  The latter was the stable title and seems to be more used according to ngrams.  Titles in non-English Wikipedias seem to translate to Peter.  See also Uprising of Petar Delyan.
:In Bulgarian language, i.e. in other Serbo-Croatian and Macedonian languages, the name is spelled as Petar. All Bulgarian personal names which are names of titles of articles here are translated as Petar, not as Peter. Jingiby (talk) 16:49, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  I've requested a move of Talk:Uprising of Peter Delyan to match. Certes (talk) 19:56, 15 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title