Talk:Bridges in Kyiv

message: Isn't the Moskovskyi Bridge a sable stayed bridge rather than a suspension bridge?  I haven't seen the structural drawings, but I am a bridge engineer, and looking at the photograph, it looks more like a cable stayed bridge.  Unless there are vertical suspender cables that I don't see, I think this article may misclassify it.
--Turpin (talk) 09:54, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The Moskovskyi Bridge.

message: (Copied from my talk page, there is concern about some of the cites in the article ++Lar: t/c 01:02, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The structurae entry is here: http://en.structurae.de/structures/data/index.cfm?ID=s0005660 it confirms the length (but only 1500m not 1543), designer, and construction date but not the welded claim. Did you ask the article author (it looks like user:DDima added the info)? This site: http://www.nas.gov.ua/pwj/e03no10.html gives a glimmer that it might be true. This is the same article but it's only a precis, not the whole article: http://www.iaw.com.ua/english/conferences/curre.html ... Borys_Paton refers to it being the first welded bridge in Kiev. So on judgement, without further cites, I'd say "not confirmed", but "possible". Hope that helps. Next time, feel free to ask at the bridges project page (Wikipedia:WikiProject Bridges), as others there are better researchers than I. Happy editing! ++Lar: t/c 00:50, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: PS see this article... http://www.ukraine-observer.com/articles/193/324 it corroborates well... if it's europe's longest of any sort it may be the longest welded. ++Lar: t/c 01:02, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:DYK]]

message: #When was the bridge initially constructed?
#When was it rebuilt after WWII?
*According to this article by a professor of geography:
У 1929 році у північній частині Києва через Дніпро перекинули ще один залізничний міст — Подільський, або Петрівський. Під час війни він не зазнав значних руйнувань. Відтак уже в 1944-му його відбудували.
*According to the current version of the article, the bridge was constructed during WWI and was rebuilt in 1954.
I think the case here is a different undertanding between transit and reconstruction. It may well have been that in 1944 using temporary measures transit could have been resotred, but the bridge was not fully repaired until 10 years later. --Kuban Cossack  11:37, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Podolskyi Railroad Bridge 

message: I assumed it is so, if not then my last edit was wrong... — Mariah-Yulia (talk) 17:17, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, that are two different bridges. Rybalskyi bridge previously was open for traffic, but then it began staggering and was turned into pedestrian one. I don't even know if it is available for walking now. What about Harbour/Havanskyi bridge, it was opened in the 2007-2008 winter season and is working only with one direction (Podil -> Petrivka) nowadays (also it's expected to be opened with another direction soon). However, they are parallel and the latter one was mostly built instead of the former one. --//Microcell// 13:34, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harbour Bridge is Rybalskyi (Cable, Havanskyi) bridge? 

message: History&Heritage journal: The construction of Kiev Suspension Bridge 1846–1853. Free access until 31 May. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 16:37, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
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