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message: In response to earlier questions the battle site is where the current education center is now. It was left as a park for many years in honor of the fallen but eventually had the current center built on top of it. Bakery Hill was the site of the raising of the Eureka flag a few kilometers from the battlesite. 
WRT the supposed J. Bruggeman, I've never heard of him either. --Robert Merkel
Should National Trust be disambiguated/clarified?  jimfbleak
I really should do something to expand this poor little stub, seeing as I've lived here for ... er ... close on 20 years, and must have learned something about the place in that time. Instead, I'm planning to carry right on writing about an obscure rodent that I've never seen and which is found only in the USA - a place I've never been to and probably never will. Doubtless there is some sort of logic behind that. Somewhere. Tannin 15:47 26 May 2003 (UTC)
I just nuked the fuzzy thumbnail code (an obvious fix) but also fixed an older problem that I wasn't aware of till just now:
Someone, in all good faith, "corrected" the image by doing two things: twisting it to make it seem level, and changing the colour values. It's easy to see how these might have looked "wrong". They were, however, perfectly correct in the original image, which I have now restored. The skyline does slope from the lower ground at left up towards Mt Bunninyong, and the picture was taken on the sort of day that Ballarat is famous for: cold, wet, and bloody miserable. The gloomy grey cast is accurate in both senses: as a record of the scene that particular winter day, and as an indication of the essential Ballarat. Ballarat in July is not a Greek island in May!. Tannin 14:07, 15 Jun 2004 (UTC)
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message: This article seriously needs some better photos.  The current ones mostly all have grey skies! I know that shows the true Ballarat, but it just looks plain dull.  I have seen some pretty special photos of the city that would be really great here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.254.105.46 (talk) 12:13, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
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message: It is often said that the name Ballarat was derived from local Aboriginal dialect meaning 'resting place'. Is there any evidence for this? Celtic settlers from England might have named it Balla (the place of) Rat (the rat), especially if they were living under extreme pioneer conditions. Obviously I'd be very happy if there was evidence for 'resting place'. (Northernhenge (talk) 23:54, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
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message: We have just had an addition to the article telling us how highly ranked some of Ballarat's schools are, according to a commercial site that does such ranking. School ranking is a controversial matter. There is little agreement over both its accuracy and what it really means. I'm very uncomfortable with this addition. HiLo48 (talk) 05:24, 3 September 2011 (UTC)
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message: I made an edit today about the "name" of people who live (or come from Ballarat). Having had close family and social connections with the city, and having a professional interest in the history of the region, I have never heard or seen the term Ballafornian. I strongly suggest the the isolated occurrence of an appellation in the 19th Century as indicated by the reference (a book discussing pre-Federation social history) does not make such appellation the commonly used name of people in or from Ballarat. Indeed in Australia the most common term for people who come from somewhere (other that states, and then only jocularly or if state rivalry is being emphasized) is almost always "from X", not an appellation (you are "from Melbourne", not a "Melbournite/Melbournian/etc.") There seems to be an obsession in Wikipedia that people from a geographic area must have an appellation. Pages on a geographic area sometimes even have a tag in a box for what the inhabitants are called, usually an Anglophone appellation, and all too often subject to strong criticism as being an isolated word from a minor source. Why? Perhaps it reflects that there is a belief that names are power, to know the name is to have power, in this case to have credibility when discussing people from the area.Brunswicknic (talk) 06:50, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Melburnians are from Melbourne. Remove any others without discussion, IMO. Same with "locally known as Greensy, Monty, Boxy, Shoppo" (Greensborough, Montmorency, Box Hill, shopping centre). Ballafornian has escaped me, too; Bendigonians exist, but barely worth a mention; apparently schoolgirls from  Molesworth claim they are from Yea North, and residents of Waaia have severe vowel problems Crusoe8181 (talk) 10:06, 25 August 2012 (UTC)

text: Ballaratian fetches 4,200 results from Google including 2,080 from Australia - not "30-60" as Brunswicknic suggests. I live in Ballarat and Ballaratian is the denonym which commonly appears in the local media and is definitely still used by people here. I really don't know anyone would expect the term to generate as many hits as Melburnian or Sydneysider when the population is 40 times less ... The other terms seem to have popped up in a recent edit and are spurious.  I have never seen or heard of either of them. Historic denonyms I think should be mentioned elsewhere than the head. --Biatch (talk) 05:33, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
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message: This seems wrong: "the only armed rebellion in Australian history".  What about eg. Castle Hill convict rebellion and Rum Rebellion? --Skud (talk) 23:24, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
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message: Please state why, regarding your opinion. Ashton 29 (talk) 10:36, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think its really a case of attractiveness, but relevance. The existing montage could be spruced up, but Wikipedia is not really a magazine. The context and size of the collage image needs to be carefully considered. Montage A doesn't contain the notable landmarks and some of them look too tiny to make out. Cuthberts and the Bridge Hotel are barely known within Ballarat, let alone outside of it. Focus on what the montage should contain. 1) The city skyline - because it is on the treasure's list good 2) Sovereign Hill (because as the #1 tourist attraction for most people outside of Ballarat, the city = Sovereign Hill What Ballarat is known for is 3) Lydiard Street - i.e as much of the whole street, not any single building 4) Town Hall - it is the main civic centre 5) Railway Station - it is a major landmark and the key transport hub 6) The Arch of Victory is a major landmark 7) Lake Wendouree/Botanical gardens. Though it is a memorial to the famous rebellion Eureka memorial has never really a major landmark of Ballarat. Montage B contains multiple landmarks in some photos - ie Queen Vic statue (as Ballarat is a Vic city). --Biatch (talk) 03:14, 27 June 2014 (UTC)
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message: In this article, it claims that the lowest temperature in Ballarat's recorded history was  during winter last year, on 19 July 2015. However, the Bureau of Meteorology's records for the Ballarat Aerodrome, where The Courier article claims last year's record breaking temp was recorded, states the lowest temperature on record was actually  at sunrise on 21 July 1982. There's a huge different in terms of dates there, 33 years to be exact. So does anyone know for sure? Which one is it? Here is the Courier article and here is the record history from BoM. Ashton 29 (talk) 10:50, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
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message: Under Since the 20th Century, the article states that "In 1942, Ballarat became connected to the state electricity grid by a 66,000 kV line." 66,000 kV is 66MV (66 million volts); I don't think any public power distribution system in the world has ever been that high. Should this be 66 kV/66,000V?
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message: Under History we have a subsection titled Victoria's second city, but there's nothing in that section that explains that heading in ay way at all. I suggest there needs to be. HiLo48 (talk) 04:50, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey HiLo48. After reading the section it makes sense to me. It would have been Victoria's second city back in the 19th century with the gold rush and all, it was the richest city on earth for a period, the wealth dug up in the goldfields built most of Melbourne's grandest buildings including most of Collins Street. With Mark Twain visiting in 1895 and describing the city as having "A celebrity so prompt and so universal has hardly been paralleled in history, perhaps. It was as if the name BALLARAT had suddenly been written on the sky, where all the world could read it at once." It's certainly not Victoria's second city today, Geelong is more than twice the size. I agree it could do with some explanation. Bacondrum (talk) 21:39, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It wasn't the second city established. Presumably Geelong holds that title. It already existed as a major arrival point for the miners heading to Ballarat when they came to the country. Should it perhaps say something more like "Second biggest city" (at the time)? Or a source that says it was the second to be proclaimed a city (if that's true)? HiLo48 (talk) 21:54, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume they mean second city in terms of wealth and power in the colony during the vic gold rush, if we have no source to back the claim, "Victoria's second city" I think we should simply title the section Post gold rush or some such.  Bacondrum (talk) 23:18, 4 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Victoria's second city? 

message: There's a sentence that says "The first electricity supply was completed in 1901, and that year a bluestone power station was built at the corner of Ripon Street and Wendouree Parade with the main aim of electrifying the city's tramway network." Does any one know what powered the "Bluestone power station" or where exactly this was? Intriguing. Skinnytony1 (talk) 11:38, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bluestone power station 

message: Shouldn't 3356 be apart of the Postcodes list? 2402:B801:387E:2900:69B2:5D74:ECE4:F071 (talk) 06:24, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Postcode 

message: New Gold Mountain, that SBS TV miniseries, was set in Ballaarat, wasn't it?
Theeeen it deserves to be added, & perhaps the section renamed
'Film&Television and other multimedia', or, 
'Use as a setting in entertainment'
? 49.184.6.191 (talk) 14:51, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Film filming-location missing 

message: If there's nothing of note in relation to eGaming yet, then no section seems fine, but if there is, then it could deserve a section.
Same with any sections-for or groupings-of tabletop gaming, gamer-culture & it's events, and any periodic or visting showcasing/exhibitions.
Or even more broadly (to tabletop/traditional -gaming),
any regular outdoor chess locations in parks, or periodic public-spaces fun, such as city-wide scavenger hunts (digitally-
virtualised or augmented-reality overlayed, or similar ones), etc 49.184.6.191 (talk) 15:28, 8 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  eGaming established yet?