Talk:List of lord chancellors and lord keepers

message: This is more complicated than it seems at first. Several Lord Chancellors were appointed directly from the Commons and sworn is as Lord Chancellor before their peerage was formally conferred. (Charles Yorke was definitely Lord Chancellor as he was in a position to apply the seal for the patent creating his peerage, but he refused and committed suicide as a commoner.) Now between about 1707 and 1919 this automatically meant their current right to sit in the Commons expired, but after this there were some who appear to have briefly been in office whilst still an MP. Inskip/Caldecote was noted as such in the early 1939 newspapers, whilst Simon addresses the issue of whether the Lord Chancellor had to be a peer in his memoirs (he argues the Woolsack is technically not part of the floor of the Lords). As well as Caldecote, both Hailshams, Simon, Jowitt, Kilmuir, Dilhorne and Elwyn-Jones were all MPs immediately before they became Lord Chancellor and it's possible that several were technically an MP & Lord Chancellor at the same time. Timrollpickering 15:19, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
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message: When a holder such as Lord Halsbury served multiple terms and was promoted in the peerage during a subsequent one, I have shown him as 'The Lord Halsbury' during his first term and as 'The Lord Halsbury (later Earl of Halsbury)' during the subsequent one.  
Alekksandr (talk) 20:20, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Promotion in the Peerage

message: In formal parlance, 'The' is added to titles to indicate that the title belongs to a peer, and is not a mere courtesy title (such as one held by the eldest son of a peer).
In lists like this, the use of 'The' adds nothing except annoyance.
Skepticaltogether (talk) 19:07, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Leave out the 'The'

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Reference named "Handbook85":
From Ralph Baldock: Fryde, et al. Handbook of British Chronology pp. 85-86
From Robert Burnell: Fryde, et al. Handbook of British Chronology p. 85
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 18:32, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: They are. Thank you bot. Ealdgyth - Talk 18:35, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
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message: The 2007 decision to create the position of Secretary of State for Justice, and make the incumbent of that office concurrently the Lord Chancellor, was a very significant moment for this list of Lord Chancellors. Since then, Lord Chancellors have been frontline politicians, rather than random members of the House of Lords that no-one's ever heard of (no offence!). It looks like this will continue for the foreseeable future. Therefore, I propose firstly that section 2 is split into two sub-sections (1707-2007, and 2007-present). Clearly Falconer will have to appear at both the end of the first sub-section and the start of the second.Also, seeing as the list of Lord Chancellors since 2007 is deliberately identical to the list of Secretaries of State for Justice, I don't think there should be two separately coded tables of office holders since 2007, one in this article and one in the SofS article. The tables should be identical, but there are inevitably some differences, for example in the dates. Therefore, I propose secondly that the table of Lord Chancellors since 2007 is replaced with a function which calls the table of Secretaries of State, probably something like . Thanks. Mmitchell10 (talk) 08:00, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
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message: According to this list, the office was in commission from April to December in 1783. However, the article at David Murray, 2nd Earl of Mansfield says he (at that point Viscount Stormont, not yet having succeeded to the earldom) was Lord Chancellor. This is supported by a reference I found to the introduction in the House of Lords of the Prince of Wales (later George IV) in The London Gazette. Could someone take a look and make the necessary changes? -Rrius (talk) 04:24, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
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