Talk:Need for Speed

message: Are there Nintendo versions of Need for Speed?
I believe yes
Yes, Underground (GC/DS/GBA),Underground 2,most wanted,carbon.
Also, this page is horribly written; it's also not including NFS: MCO.
First this article says that Hot Pursuit II did relatively well in the marketplace. Then it says it was a flop. Which is it? Babomb 05:24, 9 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Nintendo NFSs and Motor City Online

message: * It would be great to get at least one screen shot in this article. Gbeeker 21:47, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Use  -- Thorpe talk 16:14, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Screenshot

message: The article apparently missed mentioning the Need for Speed: V-Rally rallying series. From what I've read, the series only spawned two titles - one in 1997 and its sequel in 1999 (see also NFS game list. Would appreciate it if someone mentions at least a few line about the games. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 19:50, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ''V-Rally''?

message: "The game is also the first in the series to lack a in-car cockpit view." was removed from NFS:HP2 subheading because it is erroneous. NFS:SE offered in-car cockpit view. Daza.info
:The passage refers that HP2 was the first NFS game to remove the interior view (unless you were implying that the first NFS game doesn't have this view, which would justify your edit). The passage has been returned for the sake of clarity. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 17:02, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to correct myself, claiming only NFS:SE has cockpit view is erroneous altogether. Pretty much all NFS games before Hot Pursuit 2 (I'm still not sure about the V-Rally series) had a cockpit view for all real-life models, be it photo renderings or 3D models (which was first used in High Stakes). ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 17:02, 18 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect 

message: Y'know, I would suggest the following things:
* Make articles for every Need for Speed game (if it doesn't have one already, such as Most Wanted)
* Have this page be moved to Need for Speed series, and have brief mentions of each game in the series, with links to each game.
I'm not particularly fond of articles that cover every game in a particular series instead of having seperate articles for each, because then articles can get unnecessarily long (such as the Hitman series, which each game didn't have seperate articles until recently, and the Syphon Filter series page, which has really overdetailed info on the storyline of each game, with Dark Mirror being the only game in the series with its own article.) it would just look better. Your thoughts? -TonicBH 23:16, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes

message: What band played the rock songs on Need for Speed SE?
EDIT: im here to post about my recent edits but reading torugh I saw this comment - it was Jeff Dyck and I believe Romolo di Prsico. it was an original soundtrack, not licensed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.208.200.195 (talk) 19:58, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: NFSSE rock music

message: This section is just too crufty for mention and has little encyclopedic value, besides simply describing the box arts' cars and little nitpicks. I'm tempted to have this removed, especially when MobyGames is already providing most of the needed illustrations of the series' box arts. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 09:50, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Although I added to this section I also had my doubts. I was thinking more of creating a new article but as you say it has "little encyclopedic value" Pretender2j 11:58, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cover cars section 

message: I suggest we rename this article to Need for Speed Series.--Taida 21:08, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to correct, the proper destination should be Need for Speed series. This is in line with Wikipedia:Naming convention#Lowercase second and subsequent words. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 09:49, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since this has been sitting here a while with no objections, I'll just be bold and do it. That would be proper anyway, as there aren't many different forms of Need For Speed. Alex43223 Talk | Contribs | E-mail 07:44, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename 

message: No mention of the replays that could be saved in NFS5 - Porsche Unleashed and prior versions of Need For Speed (at least back to NFS2, don't know about NFS or NFSSE). NFS6 - HP2 only has post race replays with the same view as used for racing. Several of the post NFS5 releases have no replay feature at all.
:update - NFS and NFSSE did have a replay feature.
No mention of the ghost feature that only NFS4 - High Stakes has. NFS10 - Carbon includes a shadow mode, but apparently the only way to exchange these is through EA's online server.
Regarding the replays, the replays of NFS4 and NFS5 were controller input based. Prior versions may also have used controller input based replays. The advantage of this is that replays can be exchanged between players and systems, as a means to prove that a lap time was legitimately made, and that the game itself played the same on various PC systems. For NFS4 and NFS5, there are player created utilities to dump all the peformance related info from a replay, such as tuning, parts (NFS5), cheat codes, assists, weather (NFS4); RP4INFO for NFS4, and Silent Witness for NFS5.
Regarding realism, NFS2/ NFS2SE in simulation mode wern't that bad. NFS5 - Porsche Unleashed gave the top road car, 1995 911 turbo about 3g's of cornering grip according to the speedometer and lap times on the test track. The race cars, 935 and GT1 were severely handicapped with inefficient transmissions (65% for the 935, 70% for the GT1, 90% to 95% for the road cars), apparently in an attempt to limit how much faster these cars would be without the handicaps. Also longitudinal traction was an issue. The game and real life specs for the 935 indicate a 0 to 60mph time of 2.8 seconds, but it takes about double this in the game.
Regarding criticims of NFS4 - High Stakes being too much like NFS3 - Hot Pursuit, I don't remember this. Although the speedometers indicated lower speeds, the pace was quicker in NFS4, with shorter lap times. NFS4 was the first one with true online (EA server based) racing game in the series with stats. It was the first with a career mode. It included the McLaren F1 and the Mercedes CLK GTR, each of which was the best car depending on the track (the CLK did better on the high speed tracks like Celtic Ruins, Raceway 2, but also Dolphin Cove, and for some players Redrock). It was the first with a online knockout mode where the losers drove trucks to ram the remaining racers, similar to Pusuit KO in Carbon.
Jeffareid (talk) 13:54, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Features in the games not mentioned in the articles 

message: I might be mistaken, but I've always heard that crash models aren't usually used in games with real cars because the car companies don't want to show their cars getting damaged, that why some series, like Rush, and Midnight Club, have realistic crash models while Need for Speed doesn't. I think this should be mentioned in the criticisms section.
Compgeek86 00:58, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A notable source to back up this claim that the cars lack damage for this reason is preferable. The truth, not matter how apparent, is not preferable if there are no verifications of the claim being noted by any notable publications. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 11:17, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  crash models 

message: Hi! Please help to expand this new article: Need for Speed series characters. --MrStalker 14:18, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters in the Need for Speed series 

message: Why should this article, that does not cover a specific game, be in :Category:PlayStation Portable games and not in for example :Category:Xbox 360 games? It does not make any sence, and looks like promotion for PSP. I remove this article from the category until someone can up with a valid reason. --MrStalker 10:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because Need for Speed: Underground Rivals, which is listed here, doesn't have its own article and isn't a direct cousin of its PC and console title (as is the case of Need for Speed Most Wanted: 5-1-0 and Need for Speed Carbon: Own the City) where its article can include the category. Until an independent article of the game is created, omitting this category leaves Rivals unrepresented in :Category:PlayStation Portable games. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 14:59, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Underground: Rivals' cousins are Need for Speed: Underground 1 and 2. Since Rivals was created at the same time as Underground 2 and has a very similar gameplay it is most appropriate to include it in the Underground 2 article. Or at least make it an article for its own, not as small part of a large article cuz none will find it there anyway. --MrStalker 18:42, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  PlayStation Portable games? 

message: Elk Salomon, feel free to post your russian sources on the russian wikipedia. But this is english wikipedia, and we need english sources. Pro Street is a rumour, nothing more, and it is now according to a english fansite denied by the developer. These rumours don't even state if Pro Street is the international title or just the russian one. --MrStalker 15:46, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: MrStalker, please check WP:CITE. The sources could be given in any language unless there is proper and correct source is found in English.  NFS-Planet was not correct and did not noticed that the title was unveiled by the official publisher. Unless you find any correct English sources that will explain it was not a rumor, but a leak, the Russian source should be given in priority to correctness. Especially consider the fact that AG is professional reliable game news agency, most reliable of all Russian sources that could be given and is one of largest pc game websites. Unlike NFS-Planet, which is amateur fun site that copying all things from all over the world, even not checking them. Elk Salmon 15:53, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do copy the same text here as in my talk page? Well, I not going to answer twice. Further discussion is refered to my talk page. --MrStalker 16:09, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

text: (Since Elk Salamon insists on keeping the discussion here, I'll copy my reply here as well)LOL. First, I did not break the three revert rule. Three reverts is allowed. Second, as far as I am concerned, NFS-Planet is fully correct. I have yet not seen any evidence to suggest otherwise. Thirdly, Soft Club is definitely not the official publisher. Not in the majority of the world. Even if we suppose you're correct, does your source say anything about that Pro Street is an international title? I rest my case. --MrStalker 16:01, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Keeping related to NFS here. Not LOL. But take it seriously. You inventing WP:OR. It is not in your right to define how to interpret the source. It is also not in your right to define what information have right to be posted and what is not. It is also and original research. NFS-Planet was not a primary source and was not explaining full case. You can't just say - 'some sources suggested' refering to source 1, which is refer to source 2, which is partially copied source 3, when you have the source #3, which is expose a whole uncut case and explaining why it was suggested. Also, whole phrase 'some Russian sources suggested' is completely incorrect, because sources did not suggested on their own, but referred to official source. It doesn't matter if it's not a western publisher, Soft Club is still official source. Deny is also not a correct word. EA employee has said "i don't think it will be called so. it's bullshit.". It's not an answer, but simple equivocation from asked question. Elk Salmon 16:20, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "It's bullshit" sounds pretty damn much like a denial to me. And as I wrote before: Even if we suppose you're correct, does your source say anything about that Pro Street is an international title, or just a Russian one? And consider this: Need for Speed: Pro Street was completely removed from the list, while almost every other "future titles" stayed. May it not occur to you that that info was incorrect? --MrStalker 16:34, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It doesn't says it should have been Russian title only. Soft club does not naming usually. Soft club usually publishing discs without even adding Russian language and selling them by western price. Anyway. You put ifs to how to interpret the source. It's and original research. There is a source which is fully explain an origin of this so called rumor. It should be given in the article. I have to remind how it was given.
According to the Russian publisher of the game, Soft Club, the game will have the title Need for Speed: Pro Street and is planned to release in November 2007.
It doesn't says it's going to be international title. But also doesn't says it's going to be Russian title only. It's only saying that the title will be so, according to SC. And it doesn't says that this is going to be final title. It says according to.
However, information from the Soft Club site was removed soon after publishing.
The AG source is reliable unlike NFS-Planet in this way, which is just saying it's appeared somewhere we don't know.
AG explains where it came from and what is happened to it.
EA did not confirmed the title and said the title is still secret.
This was left to NFS-Planet, because official bullshit is not really nice to be posted. But 'I think it's bullshit' is private opinion of EA employee. Learn was is equivocation technique. Even if what he said was true, he did not answered straight back on the question.
Elk Salmon 16:56, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, that is what you keep telling me. And I keep telling you that there is no way for me to verify that, and you have yet failed to give me an oppertunity to do so. However, since I'm a nice guy at heart, we can just include both sources, or opinions if you like, in the article. --MrStalker 17:52, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The original source to verify was given. Elk Salmon 18:33, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, thanks for the effort but I can't understand Russian, as I'm sure you can't understand Swedish. If I had a Swedish source that states some doubtful information which I claim is 100% correct, what would you think? Btw, bablefish can translate many of the words, but still leaves a lot messed up. --MrStalker 20:11, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  If it was information from Sweden than Swedish source should have been given unless any English correct was appeared. But NFS-Planet information was not correct saying "some magazines suggested", when it was not suggested, but was leaked on official publisher's site. Plus NFS-Planet contain a link to small Russian fan site. Elk Salmon 23:50, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see your point but my point is that from where I'm seeing it, your source is no more correct then NFS-Planet is, 'cause there is no way to verify what you're saying. Anyway, I think we include both sources and leave it. --MrStalker 12:26, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Do you listening, MrStalker? The original source has been provided. The fact that you don't know the language doesn't mean it can't be verified. And all what did NFS-Planet is translated linked Russian article from small fan site, which wasn't full and correct. Elk Salmon 02:55, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I do not listen, I am reading. Are you reading, Elk Salmon? I'm not going to say it again. Please read my post one more time and think a little bit. Use a translator if you must, 'cause it seems like you don't understand. This is my final post on this topic. --MrStalker 11:04, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russian sources 

message: This could be done allready in porsche! you could upgrade with parts, change paint ect, mostly engie upgrades —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 85.166.214.149 (talk) 16:53, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Customization of cars 

message: What's with the back and forth on the October vs. November release dates?  It's already clearly reached the WP:3RR limit. Xihr 22:54, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release date for ProStreet 

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
Need for Speed series → Need for Speed (series) — Using "()" around the "series" is the standard title formatting used in most video game related articles —MrStalker talk 15:13, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support convention. –Pomte 13:29, 23 June 2007 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
This article has been renamed  as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 05:31, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

text: No, because there are other meanings of "Need for Speed". See Need for Speed (disambiguation). --MrStalker talk 15:01, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support convention. –Pomte 13:29, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div>
This article has been renamed  as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 05:31, 25 June 2007 (UTC)

text: No, because there are other meanings of "Need for Speed". See Need for Speed (disambiguation). --MrStalker talk 15:01, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: I removed the images from this page, as they were purely decorative and were not being discussed in any manner which required their usage for the reader to comprehend the article. ^demon[omg plz] 17:56, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And I reverted your change because the images is necessary to describe the subject of the article. --MrStalker talk 12:14, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: is there any source for Underground 3?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.167.19.113 (talk) 17:52, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, which is why the unfounded rumors that keep being added need to be reverted. Xihr (talk) 22:08, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  future of the franchise 

message: As of 5/07/2008, I do not believe there is an article about the arcade game Need for Speed GT. Go here for some info http://www.klov.com/game_detail.php?game_id=13174  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.27.42.248 (talk) 09:03, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need for Speed GT 

message: In the Playstation version, The Aston Martin DB7 was in the game at the Playstation version's release, while it was missing in the PC version and it needed to be downloaded online to get. Also, the Mclaren F1 GTR is based off the 1997 Long Tail while the PC version based it off the original 95/96 version  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shadowmario64fan (talk • contribs) 20:45, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need For Speed High Stakes (Playstation) Cars. 

message: Several games in the franchise included the game mode of police pursuit, which first started with Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit Note the original NFS (and NFSSE) included cops in the "head to head" mode races, where the player could get stopped and tickted or arrested (had to restart that section).
In drift races, the player must defeat other racers by setting higher points than the other racers; these points are earned by the length and timing of the drift made by the player's vehicle. The factors are angle, speed, and distance, and the relative importance varies between games.
In drag races, the player uses a car set in manual transmission. The objective in this type of race is to follow an opposing car and mimic its performance to gain a boost in the player's speed. The objective is to win the drag race straight out. Drafting rarely worked in drag races.
Also introduced with Underground was the customization of vehicles High Stakes included the tuning of the cars and a custom pallete for paint. Porsche Unleashed included tuning, performance part upgrades, and some custom paint schemes.
From 1994—2002, the games did not feature traffic Traffic was present in the original NFS game, in the "head to head" race mode. Traffic was present in the pursuit modes of Hot Pursuit (1 and 2), High Stakes, and Porshe Unleashed factory driver "delivery" events (these also included cops, but the cops could only ram a players car, not stop it).
Jeffareid (talk) 13:45, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: i believe that the gameplay section should be erased because the series has changed focus many times ie dropping features of previous games, adding new features and there is not a one description fits all. the current gameplay section is representative of the underground and following games but doesn't say much about the previous games. besides each game has its own article.
Wikitripper (talk) 03:37, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gameplay 

message: If possible, could someone add warnings to the following IP addresses, since they have been vandalizing this page:
168.122.161.234
87.13.81.25
77.253.96.44
87.41.191.188
Thanks
Webman25 (talk) 22:05, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Taken from Section: "Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit 2":
Although the game allowed players to play as the police, the pursuit mode was drastically less realistic than preceding versions of NFS; players merely needed to "tap" a speeder a certain number of times to arrest them, as opposed to using actual police tactics such as the PIT maneuver to immobilize a speeding vehicle.
This is true for the PC version, but the PS2 version requires the cop to syop the speeder in order to give the speeder a ticket. I can't find a citation for this, so I would like to discuss it before I change the statement. Leujohn (talk) 05:43, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pursuit 

message: Greetings,
I am the community manager for the Electronic Arts - Need for Speed franchise.  You can contact me at Drew@NeedforSpeed.com and/or verify this by viewing any of the articles I post on http://www.needforspeed.com.  Here is my most recent article --> http://www.needforspeed.com/portal/site/nfs/news/details/?contentId=a31486874b6b0210VgnVCM100000100d2c0aRCRD
I would like to propose some revisions to the Need for Speed wiki pages.  Specifically, I would like to make revisions to the following pages:
1. NFS Main page
2. NFS Carbon
3. NFS Most Wanted
4. NFS Pro Street
5. NFS Undercover
6. NFS Underground 2
7. NFS Underground
The purpose of these revisions are to correct various spelling and grammar errors, remove biased and opinionated content (regardless if it's positive or negative), ensure that the NFS franchise is represented accurately and fairly, and add specific information currently omitted from the pages.
The purpose of these revisions ARE NOT to make the pages an extension of EA marketing / PR, an advertising asset, to remove content that reflects negatively on the Need for Speed franchise, or make any changes that go against the Wikipedia Policies and Guidelines.
My list of revisions is quite extensive so I would prefer not to list every single one on this talk page.  I do, however, have the proposed changes documented in Word files that I would very much like to share with you guys before I go ahead and start editing the pages.
If you are interested in seeing the proposed changes and providing me with feedback then send me a email at Drew@NeedforSpeed.com.  I welcome your input on my changes and hope that we can agree that the changes I propose meet the expectations I've set out above.
Thanks you,
NFSDrew - April 22, 2009  —Preceding unsigned comment added by NFSDrew (talk • contribs) 21:56, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Revision Proposal 

message: There was rumor about Criterion Games' Need for Speed entry going back to the style of The Need for Speed, however it has been proven false, as explained here:  --MrStalker (talk) 12:55, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding the rumor about Criterion Games' Need for Speed 

message: Need for Speed Shift is available on ipad, iphone and Nokia N8 (Ovi store). There is an official video on the Nokia UK YouTube site from Nokia world showing the game being played through the HDMI port. The Nokia N8 smartphone acts as a controller and the the game is played on the TV as if it's a home style console. Should these platforms therefore be included in the article? There are plenty of references from the the YouTube site, the Ovi store, the Nokia N8 home page and the Apple apps store. Kwaichi (talk) 14:48, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need for Speed on mobile platforms 

message: I guess some information should be added in this article about Team NFS, that takes part in FIA GT Champoinship and Formula D
http://www.needforspeed.com/teamnfs  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.192.233.162 (talk) 13:32, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Team Need For Speed 

message: On November 30, 2010, it was announced that Electronic Arts and Mega Brands, Inc. have agreed to a licensing deal whereby the latter company will produce sets based on the video game series.  Might a mention of the license agreement be added to this article?
Here's a link to the announcement:
http://media.megabrands.com/pdf/corpo/en/20101130_.pdf  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.61.129.94 (talk) 02:48, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mega Brands License? 

message: Where is the citation for this? "Due to law enforcement reasons, there were no cops in Underground and Underground 2, which drew criticism as cops were an important part of previous titles' gameplay. The game received good reviews which generally criticised cops not being in the game."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.151.130.21 (talk) 19:09, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation 

message: Should there not be a summery of NFS:Underground between hot pursuit 2 and underground 2?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.67.31.100 (talk) 20:31, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The content has just been removed, a vandalized by IP. I have restored the summary for NFS:Underground now. --G(x) (talk) 12:33, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need For Speed Underground 

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thread_title: File:Lamborghini reventon need for speed hot pursuit ios.PNG Nominated for speedy Deletion

message: Hi, I have edited the Need for Speed installments section to divide the games in two categories: main series, and secondary games (+ spinoffs), as fans and editors of this page alike often mistake which game is which installment in the series. Hell I don't think some games under "secondary" should even be labeled as a game of NFS series, but hey it's made under the name, so yeah...its ok to have it here.
IN ANY CASE, there is no fourth generation, and I don't see what has changed so drastically to have one. Plus there have been 4 games in the third era altogether (ok 5 if you count the upcoming Rivals), whereas the first two generations have 6 games under each. I suggest either waiting for 6 main games under the current era before declaring a new one, or awaiting some drastic changes in the gameplay and general feel.
If anyone finds any mistakes I've written, I encourage you to review and correct anything you see fit. Thank you.
I have also added a better description for third era of games, and a brief description for secondary games.
I also don't know whether or not to put spinoffs under the secondary games list and just call them all spinoffs altogether. I think I will do that if no one disagrees. That's the ideal way to put it, in my opinion.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.208.200.195 (talk) 20:05, 25 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brushed out the section a bit 

message: The games are divided into "Generations" but there are no references to any source that speaks about this. It seems to be completely made up.
One could possibly try to tie the games to console generations since it's possible to find plenty of sources for this, but this doesn't seem to be the base of these 'generations.'
Unless we can find a source to a developer or publisher speaking about these, they should just be removed from the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Reallyjoel (talk • contribs) 21:23, 27 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I fucking second this.--ze un fo un 19:24, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Generations are baseless 

message: I am opening discussion on merging EA Autolog into Need for Speed.  Essentially a companion app for NFS games.  Very little coverage and doesn't seem to establish notability outside of the topic on Need for Speed.  It seems more appropriate to write a short summary on it in this Need for Speed article. The1337gamer (talk) 19:21, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Proposal 

message: thanks for no spoiler alert in story description, now i know ending before playing the game... REALLY GREAT  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wingo (talk • contribs) 04:33, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  spoiler alert? 

message: With the changes made a few days ago by Neverrainy (and subsequently mostly reverted by TheDeviantPro and myself), I've realized this topic may require a discussion. Should we maintain the current status-quo and keep those titles where they exist as of the 11 May 2019‎ edit or create a new system?
My logic for this is as follows:
· We should likely keep No Limits in the Main section, as the game is counted and noted in its article as the 21st installment in its article, and games after (2015 and Payback) follow after numerically, in their articles.
· Keeping V-Rally in an "other" section, highlights this interesting part of the history of the franchise, without counting it as a unique entry such as the other games. Same with Motor City.
· While the "cancelled" category was nice, with just one game in there (an MMO) it simply doesn't make sense to have an entire section dedicated to one game. If future games get cancelled, we'll create a new section, but for now, it's simply unneeded as far as I see.
The other changes he made seem perfectly reasonable as far as I see. Going ahead, we shouldn't be classifying titles as spinoffs unless we receive clear information from sources that deem that they are. Does anyone disagree?
Max Lazy 10 (talk) 01:42, 11 May 2019 (UTC)
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