Talk:Langston Hughes/Archive 2

message: I just removed the reference to Hughes from "Frederic Rzewski's song God to a Hungry Child (lyrics by Langston Hughes)" in Key signature, where it was irrelevant. It may be relevant here, though. Common Man 01:23, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  God to a Hungry Child 

message: A short time ago, someone came onto the page and changed its font causing an administrator to come in and "rightly" correct the action.  Unfortunately, the documented and correct information was deleted by complete accident in the process.  I have resubmitted this information to its former place.
Please, some time ago, Wikipedia was applauded for the integrity of its articles because of the main fact that its sources are documented and those contributing to a specific article are knowledgeable in that field. To this I say, Congratulations, Wiki!!!TonyCrew 20:25, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalize 

message: I haven't read the whole Wiki article or the whole poets.org article, but I did notice that this sentence: 
"Hughes, who claimed Paul Laurence Dunbar, Carl Sandburg, and Walt Whitman as his primary influences, is particularly known for his insightful, colorful portrayals of black life in America from the 1920s through the 1960s"
Was taken exactly from the poets.org article.  I wouldn't think that this is an acceptable practice at Wikipedia, but I'm a little hesitant to edit it.
:You're absolutely correct, edit away :) .:.Jareth.:. babelfish 15:56, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: (First post was by me on a school computer, by the way) OK, I kind of corrected the blantant plagiarism, but it is essentially still copied.  I really just reworded the poets.org passage so that the information could still be kept in. -VetteDude 19:35, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagiarism? 

message: Near the top of the CAREER section:
"Hughes was influenced by other African American poets, namely Paul Laurence Dunbar, Carl Sandburg, and Walt Whitman."
Neither Sandburg nor Whitman was African American.
:I was rewording the plagiarism and didn't take the time to distinguish between Dunbar being African American and the others not being so.  I'm also not a big fan of poets, so I honestly didn't know that the others were white (should have looked it up on Wiki) :) -VetteDude 22:39, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "African American poets" Sandburg and Whitman 

message: One again, someone of unknown origin had decided to come in and delete documented and accurate information.  Wiki is not the place for such prejudice and prejudice of any kind.  I have restored what was taken out.  Please, whomever is doing this and other violations on Wiki, stop it.  This act is unfair to the reliable and postive  growing reputation of Wiki and those knowledgeable in a specific area.TonyCrew 19:06, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please stop this act of vandalism. To the individual who repeatedly does this please note, your internet address is being logged (64.107.183.156).  Whether this is the same person using different addresses I do not know. Repeatedly, offensive language has been left ,and, documented information has been deleted.TonyCrew 20:14, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prejudice has no place on Wiki 

message: After a case of very severe vandalism, I restored the article to its previous version to the best of my ability, barring minor corrections such as parts of speech from one contributor and a misidentification of Hughes as belonging to the Lost Generation of writers. Also, corrected small inaccuracy stating that Hughes was in the Navy.  Hughes never joined the Navy. I hope I succeeded in returning the page to its former, but improved, condition. A check of the history will show this.   Also, corrected repetitions in the article to tighten it up. Its contributors deserve better.   
:Honestly, I have never seen this page so vandalized.TonyCrew 05:47, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added the signature poem of Hughes, The Negro Speaks of Rivers.  It was odd that this poem should not be included in an entry of Hughes.  Moreover, I added two lines about Hughes and WWII.  Left alone, the impression was being given that Hughes did not "ever" support the war, a major error.  Hughes connected the war to the struggle for civil rights of African Americans in the states.TonyCrew 18:23, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restored page after severe vandalism 

message: Much of the article suffered from repititions.  I streamlined the article to avoid these faults.  Chronological  order was lacking and confusing.  Added information about Hughes in the mid 50s and 60s before his death.  In additon, corrected errors in facts.TonyCrew 13:13, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Included info on Simple creation.  Because Hughes only wrote two autobiograhies and a contributor included them non-specifically in the article, I thought it was best to identify them explicitly.  I did not add the dates of these two autobiographies as they would slightly throw off the chronological dates.  But, the dates are included in the Bibliography Section of the page.TonyCrew 17:02, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  After vandelism 

message: Dear Editor,
I am a writer for the Smithsonian Institution's Center for Education and Museum Studies, which publishes Smithsonian in Your Classroom, a magazine for teachers.  Our most recent issue, titled "The Music in Poetry," features Langston Hughes and his use of the blues.  It is available for free download at this address:
http://www.smithsonianeducation.org/educators/resource_library/publications_siyc_spring2006.html
If you think your audience would find this issue valuable, I wish to invite you to include it under External Links.  We would be most grateful.
Thank you so much for your attention.  160.111.254.11 22:04, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Smithsonian link is valid and should be of great interest as Hughes incorporated blues patterns into his poetry. I added to External Links.TonyCrew 17:26, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add Smithsonian link? 

message: Added more information to round out Hughes involvement in the Harlem Renaissance with the conflict he and other writers faced to make their voices heard.  Also, added his manifesto declaring independence from assimulationist propaganda of the black elite.Plus, I noticed that nowhere in the article was there mention of his travels in Caribbean and West Indies.TonyCrew 18:18, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filling out the article 

message: Again, the page succumb to vadanlism by user 66.99.52.130.  I restored what was repeatedly pasted and deleted.  TonyCrew 17:25, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, added addtional poem to provide example of politcal writings of Hughes during his flirtation with Communisim, the poem A NEW SONG.TonyCrew 19:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Severe vandalism 

message: I have noticed that the acts of vandalism appear to come from  similar/same ip addresses.  In this case:  71.3.136.68 and 71.3.120.2 in history.  
:To the person(s) doing this, please stop.  You are not contributing.  You are engaging invandalizing other people hard work, people who are familiar on specific subjects in Wiki.TonyCrew 18:10, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 71.3.120.2 is being particularily aggressive. The user isn't contributing, but vandalizing.  I am doing my best to keep up with this individual in this article.TonyCrew 19:26, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  IP address of vandals 

message: I added another book to the Reference Section.  And, put the book references in their proper order.  Also, corrected error in the Bibliography where it had the Weary Blues (1926) being published in 1927.  Fine Clothes to the Jew was published in 1927.TonyCrew 22:54, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: The bibliography contained a few errors.  It listed fiction as non-fiction.  I created another section to correct the minor error.  Moreover, Hughes body of work is tremendous and perhaps beyond the scope of what the entry requires.  Therefore, I included only major works placed in the proper catagory.  I included the date of publication,but not the publisher.TonyCrew 17:15, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Added the full name of father of Hughes: JAMES NATHANIEL HUGHESTonyCrew 17:32, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Added MULE BONE to list of major plays by Hughes.  MULE BONE was conceived by Hurton and Hughes.  An arguement caused the two to stop collaborating with one another on the play.TonyCrew 22:59, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction of errors in biblo. AND inclusion of list of major works 

message: Added photograph of the first book by Hughes, The Weary Blues.  The cover designed was by Miguel Covarrubias who I think (?) may have been introduced to Hughes by Carl Van Vechten.TonyCrew 21:29, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Added photograph by Gordon Parks done for the U.S. Gov't. in 1943.TonyCrew 08:22, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added photo 

message: I added quote from Langston Hughes given toward the end of his life in 1967.  It is a one senctence statement he gave for the WHO'S WHO IN AMERICA.  The statement summarizes his view of his work in general, that is, the purpose of his work.
:Also, added his stay in 1949 at a somewhat integrated school under the the University of Chicago.TonyCrew 08:48, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Added one last photo illustrating Hughes speaking before the 1953 Committee of Un-American Activities as cited in the article.TonyCrew 19:01, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition 

message: Hughes was possessed of a radical racial consciousness (i.e. black pride).  While it is mentioned in the article, it was not fleshed out to reveal its importance and influence beyond the black American community on writers of African descent from Haite, to Cuba, and beyond and African writers.  Therefore, I expanded it for detail and accuracy of importance.   
Two, younger generation of black writers during the 50's considered Hughes "out of date" because of his constant talk of black pride and issues facing blacks in the U.S., hence, a racial chauvinist as Rampersad noted they saw him (207).  Ironically and very interestingly, as Rampersad noted more, Hughes would consider those black writers influenced by the Black Power Movement of the 60s racial chauvinist because of their very hostile attitude toward white people. 
Rampersad, Arnold. The Life of Langston Hughes. Vol.2 1941-1967 I dream a world. New York: Oxford University Press, 1988
TonyCrew 07:16, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hughes' Black Pride 

message: Corrected case of vandalism by 204.16792.24TonyCrew 16:18, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalilsm 

message: The article state that Hughes father was the primary influence on his poetry, but this is incorrect.  The primary influence on the poetry of Hughes and his body of work in general was his maternal grandmother who instilled in Hughes his strong sense of racial pride found so strongly in poetry and stories.  Also, in 1923 when Hughes first went overseas, he visited West Africa, not Central Africa.TonyCrew 22:01, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor additions and corrections 

message: Removed single poems from list of book of poems by 167.196.245.6.  A little bit confused on the vandalism issue here since the section was clearly for books of poetry. Check user history to determine the precise nature of this user's activity. Possibly just  mistake?!
More, provided internal link for John Reed Clubs. John Reed the individual whose name is given to the club.  There is no entry for the "club."TonyCrew 17:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor Vandalism/Corrections 

message: Restored the married name of Langston Hughes' grandmother incorrectly added by user 86.218.96.44. Her name wasn't Mary Sampson Patterson alone, but Mary Sampson Patterson Leary Langston.  The full name isn't required.
I am afraid this represents the start of new vandalism again by users from multiple addresses who routinely come in and make unrequired and purposely incorrect changes.  If just for a short time, I wish this article could be semi-protected to deter these vandals. PLEASE!TonyCrew 12:52, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading Information/Vandalism 

message: Added photographs and added to the Trivia section.TonyCrew 09:58, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions 

message: Edited out vandalism by 168.9.42.206.TonyCrew 20:05, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: RESTORED PAGE AFTER CASE OF VERY SEVERE VANDALISM BY USER 205.246.48.87.TonyCrew 00:33, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SEVERE VANDALISM 

message: For reasons unclear, this article has been the target of repeated and often severe vandalism resulting in parts of the article being routinely blanked.  Want to ask for protection, but not sure such action is required.  
To the administrators and others who have been diligent in catching these vandals, THANK YOU!TonyCrew 06:29, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeated Vandalism 

message: "Wikisource has original works written by or about: 
Langston Hughes"
This link goes nowhere at the bottom of the page, is Wikisource not updated, or this article link invalid?
link appears to be dead.  Removed it for the time being.TonyCrew 23:19, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invalid Wikisource link? 

message: Added to contribution left by previous contributor on the subject of Hughes being portrayed in film.TonyCrew 21:07, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hughes in Film 

message: Hi, I noticed this article in the course of RC Patrols, and I've kept an eye on it because of the vandalism it gets. Overall the article seems to be a very well written bio of an intersting and influential man. Has anyone considered submitting this for Peer Review or Article Rating? Just a thought; keep up the good work Tony! --Doc  Tropics Message in a bottle 21:47, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reviews? 

message: Added photograph to better tying in picture with article mentioning Hughes' brief tenure as visiting professor at Atlanta University.  The photo is of Hughes and African American photographer and friend Griff Davis who collaborated with Hughes on a picture essay later appearing in Ebony magazine, an African American publication.TonyCrew 23:22, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photograph 

message: This page is SO poorly written! The first section about his parents and their race is completely confusing - seems like he was married to his grandmother!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.111.2.52 (talk) 19:42, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing 

message: Added further notes and citations for reference.TonyCrew 23:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes/citations 

message: * Hi all Langston Hughes editors, After reverting some vandalism to this talk page I decided to follow wiki protocol regarding archiving talk pages, because the talk page was getting rather long (>32K).  The archive box should be pretty self-explanatory. --lquilter 18:57, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Setting up archives 

message: If one is so-called "closeted" throughout one's life, there is no evidence to prove one's sexuality.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.168.15.49 (talk) 00:35, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sexual orientation 

message: Repositioned picture of Hughes' home due to Visual Media being moved to better position in article. This should improve the aesthetics of the article.TonyCrew 00:19, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photograph 

message: User Emerson7, please, the infobox follows wiki guidelines for writers. Adding "expressed age" upon Hughes' death is not necessary. His age the day he died is already included in article.TonyCrew 05:16, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox for writers 

message: You might add A Langston Hughes Encyclopedia by Hans Ostrom (Westport: Greenwood Press, 2002) to the bibliography. Thanks for the good work. Ostrom 17:26, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ostrom encyclopedia 

message: I'm not sure if there's a wikipedia policy on the matter, but for an important pro-black right peot/campaginer etc., nowhere does it actually say he is black. While one could quite easily deduce this from the article and/or photo, would it not be more helpful just to slip in the adjective in the first paragraph? Larklight 10:53, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Larklight. Your concern is already included in the "Career" section of the article where the vital chacteristics of Hughes and his works are summed up.TonyCrew 21:04, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While many readers might expect the article's first words to be:"...was an African American poet, novelist, playwright,..." (emphasis mine), I rather admire the author's de-emphasis of a fact which (as Larklight also noted) can hardly be overlooked or mistaken by anyone who's viewing the page. Doc  Tropics 00:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black 

message: I'd perused this article before, but I just noticed something that caused me to read it very carefully, twice:
There is an LGBT banner at the top of the page, and at least 2 of the refs are from books about gay/lesbian authors, but nowhere in the article could I find a specific mention regarding his sexuality. It's possible I overlooked something obvious, but it seems like a curious omission given the banner and refs. I'm not necessarily advocating that it should be addressed explicitly; some might argue that it's not relevant unless he was "notable" for being gay.
I'm wondering if Tony might shed some light on this and satisfy my otherwise idle curiousity? Doc  Tropics 00:22, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Doc, Actually your question is addressed in the article. Specifically in the Visual Media section.TonyCrew 15:26, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure how I missed that, it must have been either too early in the morning, or too late in the evening...I just don't have a good excuse. Thanks for pointing out the obvious : ) Doc  Tropics 00:03, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Doc, don't worry about anything. I can understand the feeling. :-) TonyCrew 22:58, 3 June 2007 (UTC)

text: The statement is in fact correct.  Omega Psi Phi is the first black fraternity founded at a historically black university (Howard University) whereas Alpha Phi Alpha is the first black fraternity, founded at Cornell University, which is not considered a historically black college or university. –panda 06:03, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  While this statement is correct it should be noted that usually the fraternities are not referred to by the type of school where it was first founded.  It is usually a statement like, "Alpha Phi Alpha was the first black fraternity".  Period.  I know the wikipedia page for Omega Psi Phi puts it in that manner but people familiar with the fraternities (not in the fraternity) don't refer to it in that manner.  That is why the first comment was brought up. Just clarifying a bit.Dctoast (talk) 05:39, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  On a similar note... 

message: Removed "trivia tag" to incorporate nonsuperfluous trivia into article as warranted by trivia guidelinesTonyCrew 02:33, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia tag 

message: The caption inside the image of Hughes testifying before the House says he is testifying before Senator McCarthy. I have no problem with someone cropping the photo and reuploading it. Ryratt 05:52, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Restored photograph.  The picture is from a past historical event. Hughes was required to testify at two o'clock on a Monday afternoon before the Senate Permanent Sub-Committee on Investigations led by Senator Joseph McCarthy. McCarthy himself questioned Hughes with Roy Cohn present and also asking questions of Hughes. It is on documented government record.TonyCrew 06:29, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Again, the text caption says "Langston Hughes, before the U.S. House Un-American Activities Committee in 1953", the article also says he spoke before the House, yet the bitmap caption says he is before the Senate. Please choose which ever is the correct one. Ryratt 04:47, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The text has been corrected. TonyCrew 18:25, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing photo 

message: Added further notes/citations as a safeguard.TonyCrew 19:30, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes 

message: A couple of comments about the photos, which are great. Separately signed for threated discussion. TonyCrew, you appear to have been the major contributor for a while, so I'm guessing you added these; do you or other editors have thoughts about my comments below? --lquilter 18:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos 

message: (1) It's disruptive to have them in the notes section -- makes it very hard to read the notes because of the way the text flows. Was it intentional, to illustrate the notes? If so, then there should probably be more attention paid to the CSS to get the flow better. If not, however, then I'd suggest that we keep the notes pure text (unless an illustration is really absolutely essential), and move the images to the text of the article. To the extent the article has too many images maybe we need to pare them and pick the most important. Or, include in a footnote, the REFERENCE link to the image, rather than actually embedding the image for display in the note. --lquilter 18:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Placement in "notes" / refs 

message: (2) The "courtesy of" notes are inappropriate. Wikipedia requires public domain content, noted GFDL permissions, or fair use rationales for images and other media. Unless these have specific "permission statements", then they should just be described. Source is fine, but "courtesy of" implies that permission is given only for wikipedia -- which is not okay per wikipedia image policy. So, if the images really *are* "courtesy of" then we need to reexamine whether they can really be included in light of WP's policy; if they are not "courtesy of" but are actually GFDL, public domain, or fair use, then they need not say "courtesy of".  --lquilter 18:21, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Courtesy of

message: *While he's obviously dead, the main body of the article makes no mention of this whatsoever. I can't change it because the page is locked, so I'd appreciate it if someone added this detail. 24.131.128.231 (talk) 01:36, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article makes it clear that he's dead in the first sentence.  Plus, the Death subsection discusses the circumstances of his death.  –panda (talk) 01:44, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ooops, my bad. I totally missed all those. Thanks for clarifying, and I apologize for the waste of time. 24.131.128.231 (talk) 22:44, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death 

message: Can you direct me to Hughes' "Personal?"  Thank you.  Mig (talk) 22:18, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There isn't a separate personal life section; the relevant info is in the Adulthood subsection. Nietzsche 2 (talk) 11:02, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal life 

message: There is nothing in the references cited to support the initial thesis of the following passage:
Italic textAcademics and biographers today acknowledge that Hughes was a homosexual and included homosexual codes in many of his poems, similar in manner to Walt Whitman, whose work Hughes cited as another influence on his poetry, and most patently in the short story Blessed Assurance which deals with a father's anger over his son's effeminacy and queerness.[14][15][16][17][18][14][19][20].Italic text
The problem is the generalization that 'Academics and biographers today acknowledge...'. No concrete evidence is cited to back this extremely generic assertion, and the works cited simply do not uphold the hyperbole. These are weasel words. Surely some academics do support the thesis, but the references don't support anything other than some vague ambiguities. This should be adjusted for a properly encyclopedic article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gonzeaux (talk • contribs) 06:12, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm also not sure about those citations. Are there eight sources that all support the entire sentence? It would make more sense to spread them throughout (i.e. a source that says "American biographers today acknowledge...", another to support Whitman as an influence and another to support "most patently in the short story"). --Midnightdreary (talk) 12:14, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homosexuality 

message: It should be a "noted" importance that Langston Hughes recieved early recognition and mentorship-support from Charlotte Louisa Quick ( aka: Mrs. Rufus Osgood Mason ), the widow of renowned Physcian-Surgeon, and Rockefeller Patron,  Dr. Rufus Osgood Mason. At first, the influence of Mrs. Mason on the young man was motovative and inspiring, but later they would have a falling out, and go their seperate ways. Aedwardmoch (talk) 07:00, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early recognition 

message: I am student and use Wikipedia regularly as a research resource for many of my courses. I was wondering if someone could please gather a list of the notable awards Hughes recived and/or some notable works of his. It doesn't necessarily have to be added to the page, but I think it would make a nice addition. Thank you Rule.number.5 (talk) 19:31, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable awards/works 

message: In 2009, Langston Hughes High School will open in Atlanta, Georgia.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.192.20.254 (talk) 14:08, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legacy 

message: I reduced the size and description of several images because the page layout looked very cluttered (attribution doesn't need to be included on every picture since it can be found on the file description). All of the images found in the "Career" section are now right-aligned, only because the quotes don't look right with left-aligned. If someone else can figure out how to make them look okay, then feel free to revert that part of my edit. I took this photo today, but I guess there's no room. :-/  APK thinks he's ready for his closeup 23:11, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image layout 

message: Langston Hughs...Glen Sarver is always high or drunk if you ask him what he is on he will tell you something different every day. whether it be tripple C's  weed or coke its always something. thats how amazing Langston Hughs is.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.139.224.110 (talk) 17:45, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Langston Hughs 

message: This page has been vandalized.
01:31, 30 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalsim 

message: I think this poem should be deleted, or at least abridged. It's an eyesore, covering a good portion of the page and requiring the reader either to read through all of it or to skip it. Either way the readers focus is broken.Lehi (talk) 20:23, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "A New Song" 

message: The Picture is of Wallace Thurman  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.53.96 (talk) 17:12, 1 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Picture is not Langston 

message: Since Langston Hughes died in 1967, I'm pretty sure he didn't write this poem in the 1990's. At  it says he wrote it in 1925. So I'm gonna change it. Bradj47 (talk) 23:27, 19 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "I, Too, Sing America" Poem Publication Date 

message: Please wikify one or more uses of The Ways of White Folks, the name of one of his books (editor's choice as to which uses and how many); The American Collection produced a film on a short story from that collection, and wikifying it here will help encourage an article to be created on that book.  There is already an image of the book's cover.  Thanks.  72.244.206.73 (talk) 01:11, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: — Jeff G. ツ 02:24, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Ways of White Folks 

message: We seem to be attracting a lot of vandalism in the last while. Could we put a protection on the page? Thanks Span (talk) 17:43, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Request raised on Requests for page protection. Fæ (talk) 18:04, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've semi-protected the page for three months, is this ok? Nev1 (talk) 18:19, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your speedy action. Hopefully the vandals will get terribly bored now. Fæ (talk) 18:29, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Great. Thanks Span (talk) 19:20, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  vandalism 

message: Langston Hughes' first collection of poems is the Weary Blues in 2926. "I, too, Sing America" is not a collection but a single poem. I recommend either renaming the category to "Poetry Collections and Notable Poems" or removing individual poems and placing them in their own category. 
Hollybass (talk) 02:39, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Hollybass, 30 November 2010 

message: It says at the bottom of the article that Hughes live in New Jersey's Union County at some point, but there is  no mention of it in the article itself. After a little snooping I found at least confirmation of a residence in Westfield, New Jersey. Can this be confirmed? 173.70.194.24 (talk) 02:42, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Residences 

message: Change 
=== Non-fiction books ===
* The Big Sea. New York: Knopf, 1940
* Famous American Negroes. 1954
* I Wonder as I Wander. New York: Rinehart & Co., 1956
* A Pictorial History of the Negro in America, with Milton Meltzer. 1956
* Famous Negro Heroes of America. 1958
* Fight for Freedom: The Story of the NAACP. 1962
into
=== Non-fiction books ===
* The Big Sea. New York: Knopf, 1940
* Famous American Negroes. 1954
* I Wonder as I Wander. New York: Rinehart & Co., 1956
* A Pictorial History of the Negro in America, with Milton Meltzer. 1956
* Famous Negro Heroes of America. 1958
* Fight for Freedom: The Story of the NAACP. 1962
Unterbildner (talk) 12:24, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There is already a full listing of works. I'm not sure the graphic adds anything.Span (talk) 08:16, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Marking as not done, as the edit was contested. Please continue discussion and form a consensus before readding the edit semi-protected template. -Atmoz (talk) 00:37, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This page outlines the recommended works listing format. Span (talk) 00:48, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Seems the German version of Wikipedia finds the graphic relevant and does not care so much about the 'correct' format - see Langston Hughes at German Wiki Unterbildner (talk) 19:12, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Agree that this graphic should not be included in the article; it is editorially favorable to just use the information in text or a table if it is necessary to go to this level of detail. VQuakr (talk) 15:03, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Unterbildner, 4 February 2011 

message: * The Big Sea. New York: Knopf, 1940
* Famous American Negroes. 1954
* I Wonder as I Wander. New York: Rinehart & Co., 1956
* A Pictorial History of the Negro in America, with Milton Meltzer. 1956
* Famous Negro Heroes of America. 1958
* Fight for Freedom: The Story of the NAACP. 1962
Unterbildner (talk) 12:24, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There is already a full listing of works. I'm not sure the graphic adds anything.Span (talk) 08:16, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Marking as not done, as the edit was contested. Please continue discussion and form a consensus before readding the edit semi-protected template. -Atmoz (talk) 00:37, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This page outlines the recommended works listing format. Span (talk) 00:48, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Seems the German version of Wikipedia finds the graphic relevant and does not care so much about the 'correct' format - see Langston Hughes at German Wiki Unterbildner (talk) 19:12, 9 February 2011 (UTC)

text: Agree that this graphic should not be included in the article; it is editorially favorable to just use the information in text or a table if it is necessary to go to this level of detail. VQuakr (talk) 15:03, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-fiction books 

message: The introduction should say he was a poet. Twalden4 (talk) 12:38, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Span (talk) 21:38, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  edit request 

message: Nowhere in the page is Hughes' father's name mentioned, and actually, the article makes it seem that his mother is married to his grandfather. His father's name is James Nathaniel Hughes. I found this via the book 'Langston Hughes, Before and Beyond Harlem' on the first page. Could specific use of his father's name be added somewhere? Thank you.
(Sorry if this request wasn't made in the typical format; this is the first time I've added something to a talk page. Thank you again.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.223.252.155 (talk) 22:22, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tidied up the section a little. No content was removed. Span (talk) 01:37, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hughes' father's name? 

message: A few short points. The lead is currently too short for the size of the article. It needs to summarise the article better, as a general rule of thumb many editors try and include information from every section. There are also two tags (a "citation needed" and "which") that need to be addressed before this can pass. I would also suggest incorporating some of the poems into quote boxes too although this is not a requirement. AIRcorn (talk) 09:53, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I would imagine it would also need a fair amount of clean up and a section on the themes and style of his work. Span (talk) 21:48, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry mate. By nominating it you are responsible for getting it to GA standard. AIRcorn (talk) 08:46, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  GAN nomination 

message: Why are his views on religion not mentioned?  This is a glaring omission to not have entries on his criticisms of church and belief in a God.   
Here are his own words: 
Goodbye Christ
by Langston Hughes
Listen, Christ,
You did alright in your day, I reckon—
But that day’s gone now.
They ghosted you up a swell story, too,
Called it Bible—
But it’s dead now,
The popes and the preachers’ve
Made too much money from it.
They’ve sold you to too many
Kings, generals, robbers, and killers—
Even to the Tzar and the Cossacks,
Even to Rockefeller’s Church,
Even to THE SATURDAY EVENING POST.
You ain’t no good no more.
They’ve pawned you
Till you’ve done wore out.
Goodbye,
Christ Jesus Lord God Jehova,
Beat it on away from here now.
Make way for a new guy with no religion at all—
A real guy named
Marx Communist Lenin Peasant Stalin Worker ME—
I said, ME!
Go ahead on now,
You’re getting in the way of things, Lord.
And please take Saint Gandhi with you when you go,
And Saint Pope Pius,
And Saint Aimee McPherson,
And big black Saint Becton
Of the Consecrated Dime.
And step on the gas, Christ!
Move!
Don’t be so slow about movin?
The world is mine from now on—
And nobody’s gonna sell ME
To a king, or a general,
Or a millionaire.97.85.168.22 (talk) 13:39, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If his religious views are to be discussed, it has to be using cited, published interpretations of secondary Reliable Sources, not editors' interpretations.  You're welcome to find material from biographies and other published articles about him.Parkwells (talk) 13:58, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: In the biography Laurie F. Leach (2004) it relates a story where at 13 he went to a Baptist church and sat on the bench waiting for the calling of Christ.  He was the last one on the bench and he didn't feel it but he gave into the congregations expectations and pretended to be saved.  "Miserably conscious of his hypocrisy and realizing he had lost his faith since Jesus had ignored his sincere appeal, Langston cried in his bed that night."  It seems an important story to add into his childhood that demonstrates his complex relationship with religion.  97.85.168.22 (talk) 04:12, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure. Go for it. The article need a proper overhaul and full sourcing. Span (talk) 10:04, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religious views 

message: I did some page layout work to resize the images so that the text flows around them smoothly and doesn't break paragraphs in middle of sentences.  The trick to this is to add a width attribute to all files for explicit control of sizing.  You don't put width=xxx, you just put the size in increments of 10 followed by 'px' for example: |150px| 
Also, place the images in whatever sentence breaks that ends up putting the picture geographically near the articles discussion of it.  That meant pulling the burial picture out of the Death heading and moving it up one paragraph into his life so that the picture is properly placed and not hanging down into his Career section.  
I resized the poems to the width so the text of his writing matches as close as possible to how Hughes formatted the poems.  A poems word layout is just as important as it's content.
Racial Mountain is done.  All the quote boxes are finished and formatted. 97.85.168.22 (talk) 10:41, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  poem format, page layout, image widths, quote boxes 

message: *Langston Hughes was many times labeled as a Communist and that practice of naming so-called Communists was widespread during the time in which he was popular. His works were sometimes controversial and led to many misconceptions. It should be noted that at all times, Hughes DENIED such claims in interviews and whenever scrutinized as such. He was simply his own artist and thinker. In many ways, yes, at that time in American history, Hughes likely believed that the communist form of government would be more favorable to Black people, but he quickly became aware that his good treatment in places like Russia, for example, was a ruse, calculated to make Blacks think that communism was friendlier. In his Senate Testimony, March 24, 1953, Hughes said, "I never read the theoretical books of socialism or communism or the Democratic or Republican parties for that matter, and so my interest in whatever may be considered political has been non-theoretical, non-sectarian, and largely emotional and born out of my own need to find some way of thinking about this whole problem of myself." –    Teammm Let's Talk! :) 07:30, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: DENIED such claims in interviews and whenever scrutinized as such.  You have the sources for those interviews where he is denying his attachment to the Communists?  97.85.168.22 (talk) 21:40, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is a link to his entire testimony.  It also includes the text of Goodbye Christ which they were using against him.  He denied being a Communist and an atheist.  97.85.168.22 (talk) 23:13, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. :) Teammm  20:38, 20 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Communism 

message: The text of the article incorrectly states the date of his house in cleveland going into foreclosure: " The Hughes' home in Cleveland was sold in foreclosure in February 1918",  it was listed by the bank after forclosure in 2009 at the price of $16,667.
http://blog.cleveland.com/metro/2009/07/house_where_langston_hughes_li.html
:I've removed the sentence, the topic of which is really trivial in terms of understanding Langston Hughes. Rivertorch (talk) 18:52, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  sale of house in cleveland 

message: Please change " american poet" to "African-american" 
197.35.239.8 (talk) 18:17, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. —  (e • t • c) 18:47, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2014 

message: 95.149.223.34 (talk) 02:56, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 06:03, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2015 

message: Langston Hughes was also featured prominently in a national campaign sponsored by the Center for Inquiry (CFI) known as African Americans for Humanism. He was featured alongside modern black freethinking, atheist, and humanist activist such as Alix Jules and Mandisa Thomas. http://www.aahumanism.net/we_are_aah
Alixjules (talk) 21:57, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Partly done: The second, self-promoting sentence was left out. Thanks.  -- Sam Sing! 00:23, 2 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 1 February 2015 

message: Suggested additional published resource:
Hans Ostrom. “History and Historicity in the Work of Langston Hughes,” in Critical Perspectives on Langston Hughes, ed. R. Baxter Miller (Pasadena: Salem Press, 2012).
Harmonstreet (talk) 23:21, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional published resource 

message: On the Langston Hughes page, Jessie Redmon Faucet of The Crisis magazine is described along with two other editors as "men."  She was a woman.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.173.47.77 (talk) 17:31, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for catching that. I removed the sentence since that was not the only problem. The sentence also contradicts a statement by Hughes cited in the Jessie Redmon Fauset Wikipedia article: In his memoir The Big Sea, Hughes wrote, "Jessie Fauset at The Crisis, Charles Johnson at Opportunity, and Alain Locke in Washington were the people who midwifed the so-called New Negro Literature into being."'and draws a conclusion not supported by a citation. — Neonorange (talk) 18:41, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  gender mistake re: Jessie Redmon Faucet 

message: Is it just me, or is the article as it now stands mostly silent on the question of literary critics' views of Hughes's work? For a major poet, one would expect to find a synopsis of such views. The article on Robert Frost, for instance, has a section called "Style and Critical Response"; the article on Emily Dickinson has a section called "Reception"--shouldn't there be something similar here? 206.208.104.20 (talk) 12:36, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critical Assessment? 

message: Ry46132 (talk) 15:02, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: This is already stated and implied. –72 (talk) 15:22, 9 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 October 2017 

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message: Well, I was doing a project on Langston Hughes, but then I noticed that his picture was an unflattering portrait that makes him look like a boring person.  Most people glance at the picture before reading the text, and first impressions are everything.  I thought "I know of this great picture of Langston Hughes where he is sitting down and smiling.  That will look great on his Wikipedia page!"  So, I found the file, uploaded it, and opened Langston Hughes' page, only to find that I need to send an edit request in order to make the change.  It's fine if you are still skeptical, which is why I have enclosed the image information.  I don't care if it is you or me, but I want Langston Hughes' photo to be the one with the beautiful smile, not the weird sad-looking one. Bloodstreamer (talk) 02:43, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 March 2018 

message: Let America Be America Again is listed as if it were a book. It's actually a poem in a book called A New Song, published in 1938. Whoever is allowed to edit this, please make the change. 
You're also missing the poetry book by him Jim Crow's Last Stand, published in 1943; in bibliographies, it's listed after Freedom's Plow.
*Thanks. Drmies (talk) 02:54, 9 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Let America Be America Again

message: Hi All,
I made the following edit to the Langston Hughes article under "Representations in other media":
"The novel Harlem Mosaics (2012) by Whit Frazier depicts the friendship between Langston Hughes and Zora Neale Hurston, and tells the story of how their friendship fell apart during their collaboration on the play Mule Bone. [86]"
I've now been advised by one of the Wikipedia editors that I should appeal my edit to this talk page. I fully admit that I am the author of the novel, and thus must admit conflict of interest -- I have always been transparent about that, as my Wikipedia handle is exactly the same as my real name. I was under the impression, however, especially because of the information on this page, that a review of my book from an established and reputable media source would suffice for my including it here.
But now it seems that I need to make a case for the notability of the book as well, since I obviously have a vested interest in it. I would argue that my novel, as the only novel about Langston Hughes with a professional review (that I know of) is notable enough to be included in a section on Hughes' appearance in other media. The review cited in my text in the Hughes article is from  
Publisher's Weekly and, the review is glowing. The reviewer calls the book "a delight," and says the novel "brings to life important figures from the era—Bessie Smith, Thurgood Marshall, and Wallace Thurman—convincingly capturing their mannerisms and points of view, particularly on race-related issues."
Publisher's Weekly is, of course, one of the best known magazines in the publishing industry, and is known to employ anonymous, impartial critics. I did not pay for the review; Publisher's Weekly has a service where self-published writers can submit their books for book review consideration; very few books are accepted, and moreover, an agreed upon book review does not by any means guarantee a positive book review.
Finally, the subject of my novel, namely the friendship between Langston Hughes and Zora Neale Hurston, is a little discussed subject in Harlem Renaissance studies, and a fictional account of that friendship certainly has the potential of sparking further interest in the subject. Even less discussed is what actually happened during the writing of Mule Bone that caused the rift between Hughes and Hurston. My novel is a fictional rendering of this story, based on lots of research and consultation with Harlem Renaissance scholars, including Hughes biographer Arnold Rampersad (who is thanked in the acknowledgements), and Marc Primus who knew Hughes personally (you can see an WNYC video of him discussing Hughes here), and who wrote the introduction to my own book.
So that's my case for it. Thanks for your time!  Whitfrazier (talk) 10:18, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for posting this. I've left a note at WikiProject Poetry asking for more eyes on this. RivertorchFIREWATER 21:53, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a wonderful novel. But, personally, I'm not sure how beneficial it is to include this information, or much of the information in the section that's already there. It does not seem to add much understanding regarding Hughes to casual internet searchers, for example. Generally speaking, "in popular culture" type listings are just WP:CRUFT in my mind. --Midnightdreary (talk)00:17, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harlem Mosaics Inclusion (COI) 

message: :
209.6.209.51 (talk) 12:14, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth year provisionally revised to 1901 

message: Considering Jesse B. Semple was such a notorious character from Langston Hughes' Chicago Defender days, I thought it'd be useful to explain more about him.
Jesse B. Semple was conceived in 1943 in the black weekly newspaper, the Chicago Defender. "Simple" was an uneducated man from Harlem who gave matter-of-fact (and usually humorous) accounts of everyday events from his stool at Paddy's Bar. This character became so popular that Hughes used him as the star of "Simple Speaks His Mind" in 1950 and "Simple Takes a Wife" in 1953.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ShamontielV (talk • contribs) 02:30, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mr. Jesse B. Semple 

message: 216.109.52.91 (talk) 16:23, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: . El_C 16:31, 24 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 24 February 2020 

message: change "James Mercer Langston Hughes (February 1, 1901[1] – May 22, 1967) to James Mercer Langston Hughes (February 1, 1902[1] – May 22, 1967)
and change "Born	James Mercer Langston Hughes
February 1, 1901
Joplin, Missouri, U.S." to "Born	James Mercer Langston Hughes
February 1, 1902
Joplin, Missouri, U.S." Idont ca (talk) 16:24, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you please supply a source for your requested changes? Britmax (talk) 18:04, 24 May 2020 (UTC)

text: , the birth year appears to be sourced, so you'll need to explain why the source is wrong (presumably by supplying others), or why what's in the article doesn't reflect the source. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 23:23, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2020 

message: Death
On May 22, 1967, Hughes died in the Stuyvesant Polyclinic in New York City at the age of 66 from complications after abdominal surgery related to prostate cancer. His ashes are interred beneath a floor medallion in the middle of the foyer in the Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture in Harlem.[44] It is the entrance to an auditorium named for him.[45] The design on the floor is an African cosmogram entitled Rivers. The title is taken from his poem "The Negro Speaks of Rivers". Within the center of the cosmogram is the line: "My soul has grown deep like the rivers".
His age should be 66 instead of 65. Justherefixstuff512412 (talk) 02:37, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Done  Seagull123  Φ  20:55, 2 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 September 2020 

message: "After Hughes earned a B.A. degree from Lincoln University in 1929, he returned to New York. Except for travels to the Soviet Union and parts of the Caribbean, he lived in Harlem as his primary home for the remainder of his life."
Hughes lived in Spain during the Spanish Civil War and reported on the War. This article also mentions that he visited China and Japan.
107.77.204.92 (talk) 20:58, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested Correction 

message: Under the "===Memorial===" heading, add:
* 1976: Broadway Street was renamed Langston Hughes - Broadway by Joplin, MO, the city of his birth. Dmcannon99 (talk) 13:40, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:   Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 01:07, 22 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 January 2021 

message: Langston Hughes was born on February 1, 1902.
Sources: 
His first autobio The Big Sea, published in 1940 by Alfred A. Knopf.
The 2-volume biography by Arnold Rampersad, published in 1986 by Oxford University Press.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nissemand31 (talk • contribs) 18:23, 26 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  His correct birth year is 1902, not 1901. 

message: 2600:1700:ADB0:4440:FC67:F5C2:7003:D82C (talk) 12:54, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. lomrjyo (✉ • 📝) 14:16, 30 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 30 August 2021 

message: The affiliation of the Cushenberry family was with the Christian religion. Although Hughes wrote that Silas Cushenberry was his ancestor, perhaps it should be noted that this was only based on family legend but is not factually attested. 
Akiva100 (talk)  — Preceding undated comment added 07:06, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silas Cushenberry 

message: let me edit this within 10 minutes Jdugh (talk) 19:16, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: requests for decreases to the page protection level should be directed to the protecting admin or to Wikipedia:Requests for page protection if the protecting admin is not active or has declined the request. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 19:20, 11 February 2022 (UTC)

text: The other option is to write out what you want to change on this talk page, and someone may make the changes if appropriate. Britmax (talk) 21:03, 11 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 February 2022 

message: Change the birthday to the correct date of February 2nd, not 1st. 192.69.58.200 (talk) 19:13, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 19:17, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 24 August 2022 

message: In the "Representation in other media" add 
In the second episode of the 2023 TV miniseries Fellow Travelers Langston Hughes' (played by Brian Dunstan) 1953 hearing before Senator McCarthy was depicted.Cast list: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt19778500/fullcredits/?ref_=tt_cl_sm His work is also discussed and one of his poems is quoted by another character. (There was no mention of Hughes in the 2007 novel the series was based on.) 
If needed, A review of the episode with photos of "Hughes".
163.53.144.93 (talk) 02:00, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: IMDb is not considered a reliable source per WP:IMDB. Liu1126 (talk) 17:52, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request "Representation in other media"