Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Germany/Archive 2

message: Should we have some special attention to vandalism in these articles?  I ask after noticing that user:Bb3b_no2 has been removing large amounts of content from Oktoberfest; earlier this week I reverted about a half a day later!  Today, I got it a bit quicker, and gave him a warning.  But we may want to at least keep a list of articles that we should all watch, to catch this quicker; hopefully before they get buried under other vandalism/vandal revert edits. -Steve Sanbeg 23:24, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: At this point, you've probably already done the best thing in this regard by letting us know about it. Generally, from my own experience of projects, that's probably the best way to go. Vandals basically get bored with screwing up a specific page after a while, and either stop or go on to other pages elsewhere. But I have marked that page on my own watchlist, where I can also check on the user's activity as well, and hope that the rest of you feel free to inform us of any other acts of vandalism you might encounter. Badbilltucker 23:32, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That user got just got indef blocked.  I have noticed that some projects have recommended watchlists; if this is happening in other articles as well, we may need to do that, too.  This kind of vandalism can only be caught by people who check the diffs to see what's happened since the last known good edit; not by the normal vandal fighting tools.  -Steve Sanbeg 16:33, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: One way to do this is to mark articles as "watch"ed articles, and check to see if any IP addresses modify them. Generally, the true vandals don't log on before they vandalize something. But you're right, we could add a section to the page regarding those which are most often vandalized. Unfortunately, this is the only one I know of so far. I know Adolf Hitler regularly got vandalized, and that is why that page is semiprotected, but that's the only other one I know of. If you know of any more, please feel free to add a section to the project page about, maybe, "articles to watch". Badbilltucker 20:12, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't looked into it enough to see how well that would work.  I was expecting that the anons are generally obvious enough that they'd get reverted in normal vandal fighting, while the ones that log in and remove sections without adding any bad words are harder to catch, and need someone more familiar with the article.  Lately, I've been more agressive, and would compare the latest version with the last by myself or Agathoclea, so I can catch removed text and partially reverted vandalism (which is common with AntiVandalBot).  So I know how to find it, and will generally catch it within a day or two.  But the more watchlists these articles are on, the shorter that time would be.  So I was wondering if there are several articles like this that are each watched by one or two people, or it's just a passing problem in this one.  If it's just here, then with a couple of us being attentive, it should be workable. -Steve Sanbeg 20:54, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Germany has always attracted vandalism, so have a lot of Nazi-related articles. A lot is seasonal, Oktoberfest attracted a lot of pranks during the event, but also a lot of editing. I automatically put articles I edit on my watchlist, with taging articles for this project and then assessing them there will be a lot more articles watched. Agathoclea 21:51, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But a little vandalism noticeboard would not do harm, it might be worth trying. Agathoclea 21:52, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: I've just created what is actually a fairly pathetic looking :( first draft of a project newsletter at Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany/Outreach/Newsletter, and started the Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany/Outreach page as well. I hope that all of you feel free to make any comments, additions, and suggestions to both. :) Badbilltucker 23:32, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Project newsletter

message: I am searching for images/pictures/sketches of german scientists for their biographies. 
* Franz Ernst Neumann
* Paul Richard Heinrich Blasius
* Hermann Schlichting
* Walter Tollmien
* Fritz Pfleumer
This list is incomplete and I will update soon. IA (talk) 17:44, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The first of them has an image which should be importable from the German wikipedia. I will try to search the various other foreign language commons and articles as well. Badbilltucker 23:21, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the info, included the image. IA (talk) 16:07, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: When you find images on other Wikipedias that are available under free licenses, please upload them to Commons. A great tool to help with migrating the images is Commons Helper. Kusma (討論) 07:28, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  German scientists

message: Given that one reason for the low quality of many of the Germany articles is the atrocious English (or Denglish) and the wildly varying terms to describe the same things, I've began a page to compile "best practices" from all the varying places in Wikipedia: Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany/Conventions and would like to invite comment there. Could one of you clever people please give it a shortcut, e.g. WP:GERS (for German style)?
Tacitus 22:18, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style 

message: Greetings.  I'm not a member of this project, but over at Wikipedia:WikiProject Former countries#A Holy Roman Empire sub-project? I've proposed the creation of a wikiprojcet specifically to deal with the Holy Roman Empire - particularly with coverage of the individual states and estates, but more broadly conceived.  I thought I'd mention it here in case anyone is interested.  john k 21:14, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Such a project has now been established. The Holy Roman Empire taskforce is a subproject of WikiProject Former countries. Since the project has just started up today, the project page is pretty empty but discussion is well under way. It would be great if we could get some collaboration between this new project and the Germany WikiProject. All we need now is members. Come one come all! - 52 Pickup 09:02, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Holy Roman Empire wikiproject? 

message: You are very welcome to comment on this city-articleat Wikipedia:Peer review/Berlin/archive1.
Is it already mature enough to promote it towards 
FA-candidate-procedure? Lear 21 13:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Berlin]]

message: Hohenheim needs moving to University of ... (or similar); a new stub for the suburb of Stuttguard needs creating and a disambig for the other 2 Hohenheim's that are referenced. Will get around to do it myself if no-one else is faster just leaving this as a reminder. Agathoclea 18:38, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks for spotting the copyvio Agathoclea 19:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem. The wording of the paragraph stuck out like a sore thumb. It was just a matter of Googling a sentence or two. —Angr 20:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article needing attention 

message: When you come across an important topic that should be included but isn't, please don't hesitate to list it here. Kusma (討論) 22:34, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany/Article requests]] 

message: The commons version of :de:Bild:SED-Logo.png has been deleted. I am not certain whether I should re-upload it here or on commons, but it apparently is PD. In any case, it is certainly fair use here. Any suggestions? Kusma (討論) 13:37, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a link to the deletion disussion? Agathoclea 13:03, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From the deletion log which points to commons:Template:Logo-Germany, I guess the explanation is "Commons does not accept trademarked items", which is true for most other images uploaded with this template, but not necessarily for this one. Kusma (討論) 13:15, 9 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I hope what I wrote at :Image:SED-Logo.png will be sufficient for the image to be usable here. Kusma (討論) 12:49, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SED Logo: public domain? 

message: Hello!
I have just posted a major edit of the Peace of Westphalia article.  Wikiproject Germany rates this as a High-Importance Article.
I am aiming to put this article forward for good article status at some point, if it under-goes a period of stability as set out in the good article criteria.  I would appreciate it if anyone interested in this topic would head over there, check out my explanations in the talk pages, and reccommend/make changes you think are necessary.
Thanks! 
Chrisfow 18:23, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Peace_of_westphalia|Peace of Westphalia]] Article 

message: I just managed to create a High- (or potentially Top-)priority Germany article that did not exist yet. Please help me by copyediting my translation, finding more sources and suggesting an interesting fact from the article so it can be featured at Did you know on the Main Page. Thank you, Kusma (討論) 22:27, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[President of the Bundestag]] new article 

message: I've been doing some more importance assessments and find myself making lots of arbitrary cutoffs. For example, I just decided that cities with more than 300k inhabitants and state capitals are High-importance. Possibly the cutoff should be lower, though (German 100k "Großstadt"?), and especially cities of worldwide fame or touristic importance should be classified quite high. 
The "medium vs. low" differentiation also isn't easy. I'm pretty certain that individual U-Bahn stations are Low importance as well as most buildings of only regional significance. I'm currently rating Cathedrals and Universities as "Medium" unless there is something special about them that makes them "High" (like Cologne Cathedral). 
I'll try to rate some mathematicians, politicians, physicists, and poets, but would appreciate help with painters, biologists, actors, and lots of other people. Please rate some of these articles, it won't be a problem if the rating is off by 1 or not really consistent, we can try to figure that out later. Right now there are so many unassessed articles that we need more people who have a feeling of what exists and how to classify it. Kusma (討論) 16:38, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Right now am assessing the articles for the Wikipedia CD Release. By the end of today or tomorrow, that should be done and I will be able to return to the rather daunting task of adding the banners to some articles and assessing others. However, I hope my saying this doesn't cause anyone else to not do so. I have indicated above which categories have already been tagged; all the others not mentioned haven't been yet. Assessing and adding the banner to those articles would be more than appreciated. Badbilltucker 17:14, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Importance assessments 

message: Is there any sort of policy, consensus, or whatever on who and what to include in the project? I happened to notice that Talk:Albert Einstein has a project template but Talk:Henry Kissinger doesn't. --Boson 20:28, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a really new project and a lot of articles haven't been tagged yet. Probably even most of them. The basic policy is any article which falls under the :Category:Germany or any of its subcategories falls under the scope of this project, but that's a lot of articles and many of them have yet to be tagged. I'm planning to getting back to tagging them as soon as I tag all the Version 1.0 CD selections with a banner appropriate to them, if I can find one. So, with any luck, starting in a few days you'll see a lot more articles tagged with the banner. And, because of your question, you will notice that Kissinger is now tagged. Feel free to tag any others you see that you think qualify that haven't been tagged yet. Badbilltucker 21:26, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! I was thinking of tagging Kissinger, but thought I'd better check, because there are probably quite a lot of people who were born in Germany but thought of as American. Others might have a more tenuous connection. --Boson 23:24, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bruce Willis, for example. —Angr 06:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Who/what to include

message: Guten tag! (From a Chinese Wikipedian that loves Germany)
I moved the Participants section into the subpage listed on the sidebar. I changed the format of the member page a little bit also so that it looks more organized.
For the talk page, I setted up the archive pages, tables and the auto bot. I will continue to assist on the Germany project. Cheers =) AQu01rius (User • Talk) 06:21, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! I had wanted to do that, but now I don't have to find out how :-) Kusma (討論) 20:34, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some organization 

message: Maybe we can start uploading photos of Germany and Germany related topics to help with German related articles. Kingjeff 20:38, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure we should! There is an announcement section for images at Portal:Germany/New article announcements. I think we should also have a request page for pictures (including photos, maps, and other diagrams) somewhere. All bios of long-dead people should have pictures, for example, we just need somebody to scan them from an old PD book. Kusma (討論) 20:44, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos

message: As the scope of the project is so huge, perhaps the sorting in Low/Mid/High importance does need to be more organized than I had previously thought. As a start, I have completely rewritten the importance scale (which was imported from the Trains Wikiproject and didn't really fit our needs) at Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany/Assessment. It still does not cover everything, of course, and any improvement would be welcome. I think we might have to rerate some Low-importance articles, though - probably most real universities are at least Mid, with some potentially High. "Low" should be reserved for topics of mostly local importance or those that just help cover a larger area comprehensively without being of large independent interest to a general audience. Don't be shy to rate topics as of high or medium importance, I think we should have on the order of 200-500 High-importance and thousands of Mid-importance articles when we have finished rating. Kusma (討論) 20:42, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please also check and improve my examples. Kusma (討論) 23:24, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Or do you want a more complicated rating system? AQu01rius (User • Talk) 04:23, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't quite know what kind of more complicated system you are thinking of. The rating would be a lot easier for subprojects like "German municipalities", "German literature", ""German scientists" or similar. It is in my opinion basically impossible to compare the importance of some building, some emperor and some city. So making the rating system finer will only help if we say in which context something is "important". I think this would be easiest done by having subprojects that define their own importance scale. For our use, I think we mostly need to specify what "Top" and "High" are at the moment, as these articles are those that we should improve first. Kusma (討論) 07:49, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More on importance assessments 

message: I have put some stuff in our  template. If you want to keep up with Germany-related requests, you can add it to your user page. Please help keep it updated and comment on how many requests it should contain. Kusma (討論) 21:50, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I merged the contents, see how it looks. AQu01rius (User • Talk) 00:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have changed over to a self-hacked version of the template, wastes less space now. Kusma (討論) 07:44, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  To do template 

message: Is there some point in adding a :Category:Unreferenced Germany articles and a parameter in the project template that adds to this category? Kusma (討論) 07:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that would be a great idea, since lack of references is one of Wikipedia's largest probelms.--Carabinieri 16:49, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like the idea, but have one question, specifically, how to populate it. If we could include the parameter in the banner, that'd work, but otherwise it might be a bit of a problem. Badbilltucker 16:59, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be in the banner, yes. Say, if "unref=yes" is defined, the article gets included in the category. And then important articles from the category can be included on the Todo template :-) Kusma (討論) 22:34, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: TWP uses a similar setup. Agathoclea 23:16, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If they have good esperiences with it, can we just copy their version? Kusma (討論) 09:23, 16 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I have implemented an "unref=yes" switch in the template. By the way, it would be great if somebody has time to write usage notes and documentation for the project template. Perhaps we could also add some more switches like the Trains people, for example to improve our image request page. Kusma (討論) 17:15, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced articles 

message: Just wanted everyone to know that there are two new kind of featured content: Featured series and Featured sounds. Series refers to a series of articles, presumably carrying some sort of series sidebar, sounds is fairly obvious. Nomination procedures can be found at the Wikipedia:Featured topics and Wikipedia:Featured sounds pages. Just thought you all might like to know. Badbilltucker 16:58, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been here for years, and nothing is worked out. I doubt its possiblity. AQu01rius (User • Talk) 17:01, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New kinds of featured content 

message: World War I is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 19:35, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[World War I]]

message: Kitsch is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy (Talk) 22:39, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Kitsch]]

message: I've proposed WikiProject Munich. If anyone is interested, you can join here Kingjeff 01:15, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Munich

message: How about we have an article improvement drive and article refrencing drive? Kingjeff 18:08, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We tend to be mindreaders here :-) and currently work on Mödlareuth. Seriously, I think most here keep an eye on the new article announcent and give those a once-over. Once the majority of taging is over we can look at somthing organised. But I have posted here "Article in Need of attention" messages and it was quickly dealt with. Agathoclea 18:13, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And Mödlareuth made it onto DYK earlier today Agathoclea 18:21, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Drives

message: Does anyone think that a translation is needed? I started a translation page for WikiProject Munich. Feel free to use this as an example. Kingjeff 23:26, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A l ot of translation requests are at WP:GTIE. I am collecting article requests for translations of nonexistent articles at Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany/Article requests; would it make sense to note the existence of large amounts of translation-worthy text for existing articles in the /Comments subpage so it shows up at Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Germany articles by quality/1 and the other subpages of Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Germany articles by quality? Kusma (討論) 09:09, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I take that back, the Comments section should be strictly related to quality. Kusma (討論) 10:58, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Translations

message: I was thinking about using Template:German and saw that somebody has just nominated it for deletion. An alternative suggestion was to make it a talk page template. Any views?
--Boson 09:31, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like a keeper so far. Agathoclea 10:18, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Template:German

message: Would it be a good idea to import some lists from German Wikipedia? I was thinking of
:de:Größte Städte Deutschlands, 
:de:Liste der Großstädte in Deutschland, and 
Liste der größten Agglomerationen in Deutschland
If so, I would tend to rate them as High importance (as a navigation aid).
--Boson 09:31, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to see a Großstädte list. I'm not so certain about the agglomerations list; perhaps it is sufficient to put that into the Geography or Demography of Germany subarticles (and the content already partially exists in Germany). I think we should try for more than plain lists, though - ideally I'd like to see a featured list like Municipalities of Lithuania. Kusma (討論) 10:05, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have a good name for the Großstädte list, don't forget to request it at Wikipedia:WikiProject Germany/Article requests so I'm not the only one requesting articles there :-) Kusma (討論) 10:06, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: de:Großstadt does not even have an en-wiki equivalent. Agathoclea 14:25, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

text: That would be because the English language doesn't have a term corresponding uniquely to the German word "Großstadt". I can't imagine there would ever be demand for an article Big city here that would be separate from City, and anyway, "big city" doesn't have the formal definition (any city with more than 100,000 residents) that Großstadt has. —Angr 14:32, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have put up a request for a List of cities in Germany with more than 100,000 inhabitants to be created at the requests page. Kusma (討論) 09:55, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: City lists

message: Please help populate :Category:Unreferenced Germany articles by using the "unref=yes" switch of the project template. Of course, help in depopulating the category by referencing these articles and removing the switch is even more appreciated :-) Kusma (討論) 10:59, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced articles cat needs populating 

message: Images and maps can now be requested using the  template (see there for instructions). Once the categories are reasonably populated, I'll add some of the requests to our open task template. Kusma (討論) 22:24, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image and Map requests 

message: Someone added Mario, Duke of Bavaria. Is it a joke? Can anybody check? Kmorozov 06:20, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This looks like a copy of Arnulf, Duke of Bavaria with a few changes (e.g. Mario the Good One instead of Arnulf the Bad) in an attempt at humour. The dates (birth and death) are the wrong way round but similar to Arnulf's. --Boson 16:35, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I can't find any evidence of a Duke of Bavaria with the first name Mario. Since Maria is also used as a male name in some places, I also checked for Maria and found some dukes with Maria as a middle name: "Franz Bonaventura Adalbert Maria, Ferdinand(o) Maria, Luitpold Emanuel Ludwig Maria. I vote for deletion. If a Mario does turn up, the article could be added again, but the existing content is plainly wrong or irrelevant and unsourced and would need deleting anyway. --Boson 22:01, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mario, Duke of Bavaria 

message: As the subject matter is so large, we should have subprojects. I suggest that these should be strongly tied to the main project and use just a switch in the project template. As an experiment, I have started a Mainz task force. Using the example of the Trains WikiProject template, it is even possible to define importance ratings within such a subproject, I haven't done so yet but probably will as my concept of this task force matures a bit. A similar structure could be created for other cities or topical areas like Berlin or German literature if there is interest. Doing this within the Germany project and not as a separate project like the Munich one should help avoid duplicated efforts and too many templates on talk pages. Kusma (討論) 15:32, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: German history might be another possible (rather large) subproject, if anyone wanted to take it on. --Boson 16:35, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent idea. Kusma (討論) 19:51, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I'll implement a switch in the project template and you can see whether you like it. Kusma (討論) 22:29, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Sure, and I would welcome it if interested users start projects about these. We should also merge the old Frankfurt project into this. Kusma (討論) 22:29, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See here Agathoclea 10:16, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All done :-) Kusma (討論) 15:58, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Now all we need is to get automated assessment summaries and logs like for the main Germany project. How do we do that? Kusma (討論) 08:44, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subprojects / task forces 

message: Hi in Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Indian Standard Time, I've accidentally noted similarity in names of different users participating in the vote & so I guessed that they might be from the same nationality -India. And 6/7 at the time were Indians.
I think that this is an "internal" systemic bias, since Indian articles are written mostly and only by Indian users & they're mostly likely to be the only voters on featured article nominations on India-related articles & in result, making Indian articles attaining featured article status inevitable.
(I want to note that Indians are a special exception from other nationalities in Wikipedia because most of them can speak and write fluent English & thus can participate more in English Wikipedia while other foreigners can't & thus limit their participation in fields related to their nationality/culture & making participation of other third parties more likely.)
I think that there is need for third party, especially across different nationalities. And I would like members of this project to come participate in the vote & read what I've written & what they've replied with & see the article & voice your opinions. Thanks a lot! (Wikimachine 17:03, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Indian Standard Time|Featured Article Vote on Indian Standard Time]] 

message: If you watchlist this page, you should be able to find out about all Germany-related AFD activity with very little effort. If you like it, please help keep this up to date (I currently parse through AFD every day to check if there is anything worth adding, but I'm not sure I catch everything). Kusma (討論) 21:22, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advertisement for [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Germany]] 

message: I see the naming of Fachhochschulen is not yet consistent. Since they don't award doctorates they should, presumably, not be named "University of . . .". I would tend to use the German word Fachhochschule in the article title. 
This also applies to the  Fachhochschule München, which is named "Munich University of Applied Sciences." 
On a related point, what about "Munich University" (as I would normally call it, as opposed to Munich University of Technology). Their Web site does use the English name "Ludig Maximillians University" but, if I am not mistaken, this is a mistranslation. Surely the "s" on Maximillian is a "Fugen-S", which does not exist in English. The only other (unlikely) possibilty would be a possessive, which would require an apostrophe in English. Perhaps, also, some more redirects (e.g."TU . . ." and disambiguation pages/references would be useful (for most Hochschulen). --Boson 22:01, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Names of ''Hochschulen''

message: Has been proposed at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2006/November to organise the 4 page large stub STTW (talk) 13:15, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Such as, an overdue mention at WP:PAIN.  Alai 01:03, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Further split of {{tl|Germany-bio-stub}}

message: Welcome, , to the WikiProject Germany! Please direct any questions about the project to its talk page. If you create new articles on Germany-related topics, please list them at our announcement page and tag their talk page with our project template .
A few features that you might find helpful:
* The project's Navigation box points to most of the pages in the project that might be of use to you.
*Most of the important discussions related to the project take place on the project's main talk page; you may find it useful to [ watchlist it].
*We've developed a number of guidelines for names, titles, and other things to standardize our articles and make interlinking easier that you may find useful. 
If you have any questions, please feel free to ask me or any of the more experienced members of the project, and we'll be very happy to help you. Again, welcome, and thank you for joining this project!
Please welcome any new members (those who have added their name to the Members subpage) using
 ~~~~. Kusma (討論) 16:36, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Welcome to WikiProject Germany 

message: Can we justify removing the stub tag and nominate this article for T:DYK? Kusma (討論) 21:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Frankfurter Judengasse]] 

message: TSO1D has started cleaning up and condensing the main Germany article and is asking for feedback. Please comment how the article can be condensed and improved further and which sections need what kind of references etc. Kusma (討論) 19:52, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Peer review/Germany/archive1]]