Talk:Robbie Baldwin

message: Don't give a shit whether or not anyone wants this here but still for those who actually like Speedball or end up wanting back issues of him... here y'all go.
:Um...I never had anything against the character and after seeing how Frontline #2 ended I feel extremely sorry for the guy.  It's stuff like that which makes me wonder whether heroes like Spider-Man would reconsider sending criminals to prison (as opposed to killing them) if they were aware of the conditions inside prisons and how, for many people, it's worse than death.  Thinking about what those guys might do to Baldwin makes me feel sick.  The only reason I didn't pick up the other six available issues of the series was because I decided to save my money until next week, and I'll be picking up issue #3 with dread.--Fingerknöchelkopf 22:12, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It helps to think of these stories as fiction. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 11:12, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliography 

message: *Alias #20-21   
*Alpha Flight vol. 1 #110   
*Amazing Spider-Man Annual #22, 26   
*Ant-Man's Big X-Mas   
*Avengers vol. 1 #332-333   
*Avengers vol. 3 #13   
*Captain America vol. 1 #352   
*Contest of Champions vol. 2 #1-5   
*Damage Control vol. 2 #2-4   
*Damage Control vol. 3 #1-2, 4   
*Fantastic Four vol. 1 #356, 367-368   
*Generation X #59   
*Hawkeye: Earth's Mightiest Marksman   
*I (heart) Marvel: Masked Intentions   
*Impossible Man Summer Vacation Spectacular #2   
*Infinity War #1-4   
*Iron Man vol. 1 #303   
*Iron Man vol. 3 #33   
*Marvel Comics Presents #14, 56, 85, 96, 122, 127   
*Marvel Super-Heroes vol. 3 #1-2, 4-6, 14   
*Moon Knight vol. 3 #41, 43-44   
*Namor vol. 1 #5   
*New Mutants Annual #7   
*New Warriors Annual #1-2   
*New Warriors vol. 1 #1-10, 14-17, 19-27, 29-30, 47-50, 70-75   
*New Warriors vol. 2 #0-10   
*New Warriors vol. 3 #1-6   
*Night Thrasher vol. 1 #2   
*Night Thrasher vol. 2 #11-12   
*Nova vol. 2 #6-7   
*Nova vol. 3 #1, 3, 5, 7   
*Spectacular Spider-Man Annual #12   
*Speedball #1-10   
*Thor vol. 1 #411-412   
*Thunderbolts #1, 8   
*Ultra-Girl #2-3   
*Uncanny X-Men Annual #15   
*Web of Spider-Man #75   
*Web of Spider-Man Annual #8   
*Wolverine vol. 2 #134, 149   
*Wonder Man vol. 2 #13   
*X-Factor Annual #6   
===As Masked Marvel===   
*Speedball #1 
Originalsinner 00:37, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bibliograpy

message: *Speedball #1 
Originalsinner 00:37, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: As Masked Marvel

message: Hi, all. I left this posting at User talk:71.253.143.238, who began contributing Oct. 11, and at User talk:24.1.217.233, a longtime contributor.
Hi. I'm sorry for the reversion, but heavily detailed plot summaries are disallowed per Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics/Style guidance. To join discussion on related issues, you might like to contribute to Wikipedia talk:What Wikipedia is not#Plot summaries part 3 and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#Wikipedia is not... plot summaries. Happy Wiki-ing! -- Tenebrae 22:15, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reason for reversion

message: Per WP:CMC/EG, SHB should be of most recognizable incarnation of the character. Robbie Baldwin is best known as Speedball, and not this new name and costume he has taken. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 10:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That was supposed to be removed when the guideline was corrected previously to clearly say that we are to use the most recognizable image of the character. Robbie Baldwin is best known as Speedball and has been depicted this way for 20 years. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 13:02, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is he, however?  I would argue that his current "Penance" guise (if it is indeed him, what I find weird somehow) is more recognizable at the moment than the Speedball version; after all, Speedball did not have a lot of appearances in the last few years, while Penance is something of a hot topic right now.  While I find the Penance idea incredibly contrived and misconceived, it is still very visible now. Luis Dantas 13:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  SHB image 

message: This article needs cleanup. Currently, it appears as if editors are just adding to the end of it without trying to make the whole thing work. The publication history covers ten issues of comics. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 11:09, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I started cleaning and editing this article.  I'll try to add more and source a lot of it once I can track some more info down.Jvbishop 16:06, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: I think in light of the events in Civil War Fronlint #10, the page should be renamed to penance, because everyone is going to be wondering what penance's background is. i don't think the speedball identity is ever going to be seen again, but there are people going to be wondering who robbie was before penance. i didint really like the charchter of speedball, but penance is awsome! marvel will probably make penance the permanent charachter. i guess keeping the article name as robert baldwin would be ok. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Chotterap (talk • contribs) 17:09, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Seconded. Shouldn't be a problem, as redirects are in place. --Mrph 23:38, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: fair enough. should the pic be updated? i was wondering because on the marvel universe, it is penance, not "robbie baldwin" or "speedball" that have an article. and the pic is also of penance. i think we should update that, and the powers and publication dates for the two identities. Chotterap 04:26, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See the SHB image discussion above. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 04:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article move 

message: I think it should be changed or edited...the bottom of the thought bubble is too 'gauche'. And now I'm wondering why Steve Scott drew Robbie this way when on the covers of the New Warriors books he did, he had Robbie in an entirely new costume.
http://www.comicvine.com/comic/new-warriors/6787/&i=19013 -- Steve Scott stuff.
Lots42 19:57, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article's Image 

message: I'm sure I read somewhere that, when Marvel were creating the New Universe, they sent Tom DeFalco off to come up with all the character concepts for it and, when they checked on him months later, all he'd come up with was Speedball.  He got booted off the project and the Speedball character got shunted into the main Marvel Universe - can anyone confirm this, or did I dream it.....?  if true, I'd imageine it merits a mention here..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:34, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: D'oh, it would appear that the place where I read it was actually here!  Just ignore me..... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 10:59, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Universe 

message: I think - with his inclusion in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 - Penance is going to probably become more well known than his Speedball identity. Maybe we should swap the two images around and have the top one as Penance instead. MylesRW (talk) 13:06, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Penance... 

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