Talk:Jun Matsumoto

message: and  please discuss here on whether to include or exclude diff.--Mvqr (talk) 12:02, 18 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It's OK by me. I guess all the further changes I did after that I could replace them one by one, as my only motive is to improve the information, not vandalize it. Thank you so much, Suzu.SugaShikaoFans (talk) 00:47, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits 

message: Hello there!
As mentioned above in "Recent edits", seeing the current state of the Jun Matsumoto page, I wish to revert the page back to the version at 07:22, 19 January 2021 (edit ID: 948116195), and make upgrades based from that version.
Firstly, regarding reverting back to the 948116195 version at 07:22, 19 January 2021, this is the last time when the article was at an acceptable quality. While some points presented lack adequate referencing (e.g. "He invented the moving stage in 2005"), the 948116195 version (and majority of the versions prior) was able to summarize the main aspect of Matsumoto's career in a straightforward and balanced manner that reflects himself; that he is a member of Arashi, best known work and award (very properly sourced here), summary of early career, and his success. However, the current version's introduction is messy, namely the lengthy and unproportionate amount of information on his acting career, which would be more appropriate in the career section. Additionally, some referencing used may borderline the qualification for link vandalism, as they use irrelevant sources, namely mentions of alternative TV series adaptation that does not have to do with Matsumoto's participation (e.g. https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2010-04-06/kimi-wa-pet/tramps-like-us-manga-gets-korean-film). As for the body part, there is a revert war particularly on the 'Music career' going on during the time this talk is being made. Compared to the 948116195 version with "Although the majority of Matsumoto's solos for albums and concerts are written by Arashi's staff, he has contributed lyrics...", the more "deletion" version minimalizes the information typically with merely "majority of Matsumoto's solos for albums and concerts are written by Arashi's staff" and insufficient source, while the more "addition" version adds a considerable amount of details, but needs referencing. Overall, there are also multiple grammatical errors in the current version of the page compared to the 948116195 version.
In case it is allowed for the page to be reverted back to its adequate state which is the 948116195 version at 07:22, 19 January 2021, some more possible upgrades or changes from the version can be considered. In the introduction section, "He invented the moving stage in 2005" should either be moved to 'Career' but with proper references added, or deleted complete due to insufficient referencing. Additionally, the term "concertmaster" should be changed into "concert director" as concertmaster is a completely different terminology used in violin/orchestra. On the 'Music career' part, while the amount of detail in the current 'addition' side is highly appreciated, there should referencing done. If we were to completely disregard the 'addition' side and only kept whatever stated in 948116195 version, a possible way to expand from that version could be using information in this article about Matsumoto's involvement in concert production (https://realsound.jp/2014/10/post-1446.html), and/or more observations in the credits for Arashi's discography (e.g. "La Familia," "Stay Gold," "Fight Song," etc.). Some information regarding Matsumoto's acting career that are written in the introduction may be moved to the 'Acting career' section, but with better referencing, and deletion of any biased statements if applicable.
To summarize, to best preserve the original adequate quality state, the page Jun Matsumoto should be reverted back to 07:22, 19 January 2021 (edit ID: 948116195) where it is able to transmit information effectively with proper sourcing and structuring. If there are wishes to upgrade the article, it would be through careful addition of information with sufficient relevant sources. 
Thank you for going through my suggestion upon improving this page. - Suzu2309 suzuuu 07:32, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I do agree with reverting the page back to when you specified and that is mainly because of all the edits IPs have done, it makes it a bit unclear what is and isn't constructive. Blaze The Wolf | Proud Furry and Wikipedia Editor (talk) 13:29, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restoring Quality and Further Upgrade