Talk:Siege of Thessalonica (1422–1430)

message: Are you sure that the actual number of inhabitants was only 2,000 in 1430? That would reduce the second largest city of the empire to little more than a village, while Constantinople itself, according to Runciman, had 50,000 in 1453; strange odds. Are you certain the number does not refer to the defending garrison? Iblardi 13:06, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the New Cambridge Medieval History, 7,000 inhabitants were taken captive when the city fell to the Ottomans in 1430 (Vol. 7, p. 778), setting a bare minimum for the total number at that time. This is in conflict with the reference to Mango in this article, which has the aforementioned very low number of 2,000. Iblardi 18:36, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of inhabitants in 1430 

message: I am copy editing this article and have come across:
:At that point, a group of aristocrats persuaded the Despot Andronikos to seek the assistance of the Republic of Venice, an initiative probably taken without consulting Constantinople.[20] In spring 1423, via the Venetian colony of Negroponte, he informed the Venetians of his intention. The only conditions Andronikos attached to his offer were that the property, customs and privileges of the city's inhabitants, their right to trade and come and go freely, and the position of the city's Orthodox Church, were respected, and that Venice would pledge to defend the city against the Ottomans.
In the second sentence it states " he informed the Venetians of his intention", but the reader has not yet been told what this is. Nor are they subsequently. This assumes that "the intention" is to transfer the city to the Venetians; the following sentence, addressing "conditions" implies this. As it reads, the "intention" would be taken to mean to merely "seek...assistance". 
It seems to me that either the first sentence needs expanding/changing to read as an offer of a handover, not a seeking of assistance; or a new second sentence inserting stating what Andronikos had decided. As this seems a bit over my pay grade as a copy editor I thought it best to post it here. I would be happy to have a go at some additional words if no one responds to this. Gog the Mild (talk) 17:07, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Gog the Mild, you are right, there is something missing here. Thanks for pointing it out, fixed now. Constantine   ✍  09:53, 14 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy edit query 

message: Do we have a conversion rate, however rough, between ducats and aspers? Gog the Mild (talk) 17:10, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ducats, aspers 

message: This is a very long section. Consider breaking into 1424-27 and 1428-29 perhaps? Gog the Mild (talk) 18:42, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diplomatic and military events, 1424–1429 

message: "In their embassy in July 1425, the Thessalonians submitted a list of 21 complaints and demands, including fixed rations of corn for the poor"
This cannot possibly be correct, as corn was not present in Europe until 1493. 130.76.186.16 (talk) 16:55, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: 'Corn' here does not mean maize, but 'cereal', cf. Corn (disambiguation). Constantine   ✍  17:02, 31 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thessalonica under Venetian rule