Talk:Hampster Dance

message: Does someone want to tackle a  clean-up of this article?  It's disorganized, poorly written, and nearly undreadable.  Moncrief 00:13, Mar 3, 2005 (UTC)
More information is needed on the origin of the sample, with full credit to Roger Miller's "Whistle Stop" recording, possibly mentioning the repeated airplay a version of it received on the Dr. Demento show in 2000, beginning in August, and several times since 2000.
My God, what a poorly-written, disorganized, jumbled, unhelpful article. Help! Moncrief 17:50, Apr 7, 2005 (UTC)
I could try cleaning it up Mark77711 (talk) 23:29, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: The current Internet Archive link has broken images, whereas this version doesn't. Maybe we should use the latter instead? jareha 22:51, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It was changed twice already. The problem seems to be variable reliability of the Wayback Machine. I know the version that was there originally worked. --Dhartung | Talk 08:49, 23 September 2005 (UTC)

text: There seems to be an IPFS hosted recreation of the site linked at the bottom too, which is at least functional, though of dubious origin.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.4.175.242 (talk) 21:29, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internet Archive link 

message: Not sure how many people actually realize it, but the Hamster Dance song is the beginning part of the song the Rooster is singing at the beginning of Disney's "Robin Hood".  It's been sped-up, of course, but it's the same song.  Probably explains why RadioDisney is playing the HamsterDance song so much.  :) --Undrhil 07:14, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, apparently, I didn't read closely enough.  Yes, it's already in the article.  :) --Undrhil 07:15, 7 November 2005 (UTC)

text: not the now ones, look the music on the start of hampstersong2.com site, on the old music the hampster song "ti ti ti ta ti ti tou tou ti..." and the new ones is "ti ti ti ta ti da dou dou ti..."
I find it a bit ironic that the original song was taken down for copyright infringement, while the Robin Hood film that had the original song also includes an uncredited performance of Happy Birthday to You, which is famous for the huge fees the copyright owner charges for public performances. JohnWhitlock 00:12, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robin Hood song 

message: Should we make an article about the fictional hampster dance band? --AAA! (AAAA • AAAAAAAA) 10:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hampster Dance Band?

message: It's spelt "Hamster" by the way, lol. Janipewter 01:53, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but its intentionally spelled hampster. DemonWeb 01:56, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling 

message: When I first saw the Hampsterdance site, my impression was that the music loop was taken from the beginning of a techno track called 'Bad Base' by B.T.B., off of Best of Techno Volume 2, published by Profile Records. The intro of this track has an identical sped-up, repeating loop of the Robin Hood song. Best of Techno Volume 2 was published in 1992, and the track itself in 1991. 4.246.36.147 01:34, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting... the chain from origin to destination isn't always as clear cut as it looks! Never heard of that one despite having a few techno compilations around, will have to hunt it out. 146.199.0.170 (talk) 13:49, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  The track in question materialized on Youtube in November 2018. It is surely likely that it is the source of the sample. Jorpho (talk) 20:13, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sample Origin 

message: Someone proposed merging in Hampton and the Hampsters Single - The Hampsterdance Song.  I say go for it. Mdotley 14:42, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to register my dismay and annoyance at this decision. It's now not possible to reference either the website, or the single, which were rather separate things. One's a website, the other is a cash-in single made to exploit that (and was probably only made after C vs I became a hit), yet the latter is what (at least visually) leads off the article if you do any kind of wiki search for the terms "hampster" and "dance" attempting to find the former alone. It's like merging the death of Princess Diana and the rewritten "Candle in the Wind", or the mid 20th century Fiat 500 with Lush's "500 (Shake Baby Shake)". Is there any way, 11 years down the line, to split them back out? This is the internet after all, there's no lack of space and it's pretty easy to just embed a mutual link between the two of them. 146.199.0.170 (talk) 13:22, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I strongly concur with 146.199.0.170; the merger was a terrible idea for the reasons stated above. The presentation together is confusing and misleading.  —Undomelin (talk) 16:17, 19 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  I gave a quick stab at cleaning it up, starting with moving the page back to the original title and moving the song stuff to a separate heading further down on the page. -- Ned Scott 00:07, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge 

message: I went to radio disney's website, looked in songs you could request, and found this:
Hampton the Hamster, "Hampsterdance Song"
The song "Sing a simple song" can also be credited to Hampton.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.89.251.243 (talk) 16:20, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hampsterdance is credited to Hampton the hamster 

message: Does anybody have a source on the infringement part? Was there a court case?
I'm speculating that it was taken down as a result of pressure from Disney alleging infringement.
Any source pointing one way or another would be appreciated.--Ernstk (talk) 18:33, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infringement 

message: As of now the description of the site says it has dancing hamsters and rabbits.  To my knowledge, there are no rabbits, only hamsters, so I'm editing accordingly.  If one of them is actually a rabbit, or if there's some other reason for including rabbits in the description, feel free to change it back but please include some justification on the talk page. Greatersam (talk) 05:06, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rabbits? 

message: There seems to be some confusion in the article as to whether this is Hampsterdance' or Hamsterdance, since it switches from one to the other. Could someone who knows something about this fix it? DJ Clayworth (talk) 15:22, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: For posterity, it's the former. The original website used the "mp" variant spelling, and so that has stuck with any works derived from it, even though the form with "m" but not "p" is the more common. 146.199.0.170 (talk) 13:23, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Hampster/Hamster

message: I believe yahoo photos featured 4 hamsters dancing as their 'waiting cursor', showing the text 'please wait while our hamsters perform this task'. Since Yahoo photos is now Flickr this may not be on the site anymore. Someone may whish to research a reference and add this. --Blonkm (talk) 18:41, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yahoo photos 

message: I am having trouble figuring out who did what in this blurb:
"LaCarte failed to register the Hampsterdance name, and for some time the hampsterdance.com domain was owned by humor business Nutty Sites. Initially, hamsterdance.com was used, and later hampsterdance2.com. hampsterdance2.com was registered and by 2002 had sold the rights to Abatis, Inc. which later acquired control of the first domain."
Here's how I interpret this, drawing on surrounding info on the page:
[LaCarte wanted to move her GeoCities page to its own domain. However,] LaCarte failed to register the Hampsterdance name, and for some time the hampsterdance.com domain was owned by humor business Nutty Sites. Initially, hamsterdance.com was used for LaCarte's site, and later hampsterdance2.com. By 2002 LaCarte had sold the rights and hampsterdance2.com domain to Abatis Inc., which later acquired control of hampsterdance.com as well.
So if someone tells me they agree with my understanding, I can edit the paragraph to read as above, with or without the GeoCities text in brackets (I think it's helpful to connect the dots there, assuming it's even correct). --Iritscen (talk) 17:39, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Confusing paragraph

message: The original meme is something unrelated to hampsterdance.com, though the website is obviously meant to piggyback off the meme's success.  I recommend that discussion of the website, its characters and discography be moved to a separate article.--Catch153 (talk) 05:12, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What meme? The Hampsterdance website was in existence from sometime in the mid 1990s, possibly pre-1995. It was one of the first websites I ever visited, using my school library's brand new shiny 14.4kbit modem connection to the nascent Information Superhighway, back when you still got paperback books listing "the internet's 100 best sites" (...which is how I found it). It predates the coining of "meme" as "a dumb but humorous thing spread around the interwebs", rather than it being a niche term used only by followers of Dawkins. Any mid-late noughties meme involving dancing hamsters and the Whistle Stop riff is a 10+ year late rip-off of the old Geocities site, and probably a second generation one via Hampton and/or the Cuban Boys at that. 146.199.0.170 (talk) 13:29, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this about the Meme or the hampsterdance.com? 

message: Howcome nowhere here does it mention that Erin Andres (born 1938) was the voice of Hampton the Hamster?
She can still confirm it if one wishes to get in touch with her.
Eric Ramus  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.195.166.103 (talk) 12:45, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure what this is about. The original voice is Roger Miller sped up. Where does Erin Andres fit in?--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 18:18, 14 October 2015 (UTC)

text: I couldn't find any sourcing on this. Is Erin Andres the right spelling?--♦IanMacM♦ , (talk to me) 05:49, 15 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's probably because the single is a second generation, cynically commercial rip-off of a sardonic in-joke rip-off of a website that was never meant to be anything more than a cheap joke between friends, so giving anything more than the legally mandated minimum credits probably wasn't in the forefront of the creators' minds. 146.199.0.170 (talk) 13:32, 12 October 2018 (UTC)

text:  Who even is she, anyway? Like, is there anything more famous we'd know her from, before or since the HtH records? I ask that with all good intentions and curiosity, by the way, as I've never heard of her and the internet in general has Got Nothing (even after refactoring my google searches several ways, the only positive hit I get is... this talk page), but the way you present the issue is as if she's a well known voice actress who we should be easily able to get hold of with just name and birthdate. I'm intrigued, and particularly would like the record to be set straight if she's actually a prolific and well known VA (or guest vocalist / sessionist on various records) of times past that the online record has somehow managed to pass by. Especially if she has any form of life-limiting cancer, as it'd be nice to do that whilst she's still around to witness it. 146.199.0.170 (talk) 13:37, 12 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Erin Andres the voice of Hampton 

message: He did a Hampster Dance video using Sailor Moon clips. Very strange. Not sure which version of the song he used, this could be worth a mention, if someone knows. 2A00:23C5:E0A0:8300:B091:D7DF:5185:1227 (talk) 13:49, 9 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Weird Al Yankovic

message: I'm sorry this may be a stupid question but is this song a parody of cotton eyed joe. I'm surprised no one has asked this already as they sound identical to me.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.126.105.216 (talk) 08:48, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: They are not identical and I don't think that the composer of Cotton-Eyed Joe (if still alive) would have much luck suing Roger Miller for plagiarism. This requires two pieces of music to be almost note for note the same. They have a similar feel because they are both country and western dance tunes.--♦IanMacM♦ (talk to me) 09:28, 3 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parady? 

message: There is a no-profit organization who hosted an copy of the original website, always online since 1999 :
-=> https://hamster.wda-fr.org/hamsterdance.php
 Mathieu CHARREYRE (talk) 13:48, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  French external link, since 1999 !