Talk:Sangheili (Halo)/Archive 1

message: Just an observation, in the description of the new coop characters for Halo 3, one of the Elites is described as 'unmarried'. This obviously shows at least some form of religious monogamy within the Elites, if not the entire Covenant. I'll leave it for others to edit however. 
-Uwasa
I don't agree that the Elites learned to speak the English tongue, but merely "translated" because the story's viewpoint is not just around the Master Chief anymore--it also revolves around the Arbiter. I suppose that Bungie made most of the Covie talk intelligible simply for clarification purposes, to display the reasoning and culture of the Elites as well as the Covenent in general. 
~Jay
Then explain how the Arbiter talks to sargeant Johnsen. -- Psi edit
I believe an Elite said "Projectiles. Very primitive." to Keyes in Halo: The Flood. --OGoncho 19:21, 18 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In response to the 'monogamy' bit, if that's worth noticing, one could also point out the humorous tidbit in Halo 2 where, upon staring at another Elite for a long while as the Arbiter, they would say "I think you're cute too" in a hesitant way, or something to that effect. I don't think it's worth putting in the article that they may have a society that accepts such attractions, especially on the basis of only one source of rarely-heard audio material, though it does make for an interesting debate, if nothing else. Made ME laugh, at least. XD  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.101.109.85 (talk) 00:53, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elite Culture 

message: Heretics aren't part of the Covenant therefore they are not part of the ranking of the Covenant. Im putting in some sub categories. Psi edit 01:37, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rank section 

message: * Covenant Elite (Halo) → Covenant Elite … Rationale: Covenant Elite is the most common name for this fictional alien race. A series of page moves (Covenant Elite → Sangheli → Elites (Halo) → Covenant Elite (Halo)) has created an unnecessary disambiguating suffix. — TKD::Talk 02:55, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
*Support as original requester. — TKD::Talk 02:59, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Moved. —Nightstallion (?) 11:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: :Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
*Support as original requester. — TKD::Talk 02:59, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved. —Nightstallion (?) 11:28, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Have any of these been proved? The only ones that are obviously true are the size difference and the different head placement (affecting headshots). As far as I know, the rest are just rumors. Rabid Monkey 18:37, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multiplayer differences 

message: I don't see the need for a cleanup tag on this page, so i am going to remove it now. If you believe it does require cleanup, please replace the tag and discuss the reason here, thank you. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.40.86.116 (talk • contribs) 
:I just tagged this with . According to Wikipedia's guidelines on writing about fiction, fictional characters and species need to be treated as cultural artifacts, not as if they were real beings. — TKD::Talk 23:50, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: Should there be pictures near the ranks for referance?Argias 19:11, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: I notice that the article states that the Elites have Arrow-Shaped heads, though this seems to be based on the shape of their helmets. It's clearly seen in Halo 2 that Arbiter and other Elites have smooth heads. Should this be edited? I only ask because I do not know if there is any literature that contradicts this or if the term "Arrow Shaped" means something else. 
(LoboMcThirsty 01:28, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not know about the time that you accessed this, but as of my comment here the article specifies that they had arrow-shaped heads in earlier concepts for the characters, which you can clearly see in the screenshot of the earlier version of Halo shown at MacWorld NY 1999.  As the game developed, the art was refined and characters underwent cosmetic changes.  In particular, the Elites no longer had arrow-shaped heads, but instead were given arrow-shaped helmets over smooth heads.  - Fearless Son 23:48, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coveneant Elite Heads 

message: At WT:HALO#Covenant Elite, the possibility of moving this page to Elite (Halo) has been raised. To keep discussion in one place, please contribute to the existing thread there; this notice is added here to notify editors who watch this page but not WT:HALO. — TKD::Talk 13:58, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me. James086Talk | Email 05:31, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  — TKD::Talk 00:43, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible move to [[Elite (Halo)]]

message: I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of October 21, 2007, compares against the  six good article criteria:
:1. Well written?: Pass
:2. Factually accurate?: Pass
:3. Broad in coverage?: Pass
:4. Neutral point of view?: Pass
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:6. Images?: Pass
A very thorough article.  My only suggestion is to improve your grammar just a little bit.  Well done!  If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations.</div>— Ejg930 02:46, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Successful [[Wikipedia:Good articles|good article]] nomination

message: I'm not really into Halo but why does the first icture at the Right Hand Side there say "The Flood" up above it in big letters? Is thie a mistake?
If not, ah well, thought I'd better check at any rate to be sure. Cause the article doesn't really seem to be about the flood. Sorry if I'm barking up the wrong tree.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.236.211.165 (talk) 09:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You need to refresh you PC, it did say "The Flood" about ten hours ago wich was a simple mistake by the user that added the box yesterday, but I fixed it a while back. - Caribbean~H.Q. 09:45, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Oops. :) David Fuchs (talk) 22:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: WAIT STOP

message: If the text next to the early picture of the elite is referring to it, then it is wrong.  It looks as if the early elite is holding a plasma rifle, not an early energy sword...168.170.197.10 (talk) 17:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It isn't. David Fuchs (talk) 17:38, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The text isn't referring to the picture. In the pic however it is a plasma rifle. 58.161.196.219 (talk) 12:07, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elite weaponry 

message: Why doesn't Sangelli redirect here. It is thier real name?75.121.36.237 (talk) 02:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Naming conventions, we use the most recognizable name for the articles, Sangheili are always refered to as "Elites" in the games, the novels also use it quite often. - Caribbean~H.Q. 02:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

text: By alot you mean... "Fall of Reach", "The Flood" and "First Strike". Yet... "Ghosts of Onyx," "Contact Harvest," "Halo: The Graphic Novel," "Halo: Uprising" (all 4 issues) use Sangheili.OsirisV (talk) 06:12, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "Elite" is the most common and recognized name used for them, in the games, books, various media, and in the general public consciousness. The average reader who looks up Halo will most likely only know them by their most common name, which is "Elite." Peptuck (talk) 08:29, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

text: "Sangelli" does not redirect here but "Sangheili" does.  We do not need to account for small differences in spelling in the case of a completely fictional word.  - Fearless Son (talk) 00:12, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sangelli redirect 

message: I've heard about the connection more than once. Should it be commented on? The similarities are striking. The jaws with 4 fang ridden mandibles, elongated heads, mildly similar armor. Also, the Elite's battle based culture is very similar to the Predator's hunt based culture. Furthermore, the Predator article states that one of the early designs for the Predators involved legs similar to the Elites, but it was abandoned in the movie design because of cost and logistics. I'm hoping others can provide a more substantial source of proof for the connection.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ccsteve1 (talk • contribs) 08:57, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, the Elite remind me of the Protoss of StarCraft fame, specifically the Zealots.  They have energy swords, like psi blades, a strong warrior culture, and a healthy respect for worthy enemies.  Their integration into a theocratic governing system also reminds me of the Protoss. ~ 199.242.209.27 (talk) 04:07, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The "proud alien culture" has long been a tenet of SciFi, from the Klingons on, and probably a lot earlier. Unless there's a reliable source about these similarities, we can't mention it or else it would be synthesis. Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 14:02, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I think that the Elites are more inspired by the Iridians of Ian M. Banks' Culture series.  I recall Bungie citing it as one of their inspirations for the Halo universe (the "Culture orbitals" in particular being inspirations for the Halo rings themselves.)  The Marathon's Story page of Bungie.org has a list of similarities if anyone is interested.  - Fearless Son (talk) 18:27, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elite Resemblance to the Predator race 

message: The official name for the Elites is Sangheili as shown in Halo: Ghost of Onyx and Halo: The Cole Protocol. Just a minor update.-5ub7ank(7alk) 11:16, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait.. never mind. Saw the above section (Sangelli Redirect). Ignore this.-5ub7ank(7alk) 11:24, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renaming to Sangheili (Halo) 

message: Should the picture of the Elite at the beginning of the article be updated to the model that is used in the new game (Halo: Reach)? --PatSon15 (talk) 19:28, 13 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated Pictures