Talk:Professional wrestling strikes

message: A hard elbow drop to one's head.  Typically inflicted with a running start.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saracess7 (talk • contribs) 20:17, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Powerhouse

message: Hardcore Holly is show doing a dropkick to the head of Kennedy, not a Spinning Heel Kick  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.235.25.201 (talk) 14:06, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Spinning Heel Kick

message: Isn't it exactly like the Lariat? If not, what's the difference?--79.181.116.105 (talk) 23:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Clothesline from Hell

message: The picture of the jackhammer is really blurry could someone look for a better picture?
--Relaxation 17:50, 1 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Detonator (and other countless moves that have been added by anon on the wrestling move pages)
They all end like this:
"This attack has never been used by a professoinal wrestler. The detonator is invented by William Hallin, Umeå, Sweden, as the wrestler Sgt. Bash."
plz can someone prove to me that this is actually a real move. even the person that wrote it says its never been used
why is it in this artical???!! please if you can either get me proof of the move or just delete it would be much appriciated. Paulley 16:11, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: First off, that comment was from over 4 years ago. Secondly, the article does need improvement. Despite how it reads, it's a vital page that is linked to from almost all pro wrestling articles. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:25, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  False Move(s) 

message: I moved dropkicks and enzuigiri into the kicks section, since they are kicks. Remember that we aren't a wrestling fansite, so we can't assume readers are already familiar with the terminology; we should format these move glossaries so that readers unfamiliar with wrestling can easily find the description of a move they've seen but not heard the name of.  — Gwalla | Talk 20:48, 21 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds fair enough to me, what about "stomps" (i guess you could consider this a drop as in a foot drop), "knee lift", "high knee" and "shinning wizard" (that's a kick) Paulley 10:29, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm. Other than the shining wizard (unmistakably a kick), those are in a grey area. Knees could be considered a separate section. Single-foot stomps are kicks, while jumping double-foot stomps are less kicklike, but if the former is included the latter should be too.  — Gwalla | Talk 22:31, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: On saying that you could consider the double stomp as a kind of dropkick variation (if you think real hard and squint your eyes a bit)... so it too should really be included. -- Paulley 19:18, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved dropkicks and enzuigiri to kicks 

message: For real, what is so "illegal" about a bell clap? When has a fireball ever been used?
I have moved bell clap out of the illegal moves section and I have deleted fireball. 
Anybody who belives that bell clap should be moved back and that fireball should be added to this article, then post your criticism or else I will keep moving both entries if I ever see that both are in the illegal moves section again. (According to the history , this is by Scorpion--remember to sign your comments. --Paulley 08:54, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are these moves illegal? 

message: why on earth is this article at the receiving end of an auto-redirect from 619 (number) ?????
:Look at its page history --- Paulley 18:02, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  questionable redirect 

message: Should we add the spear? Perhaps under 'headbutt'?
ViperBite 03:55, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: lol, see here --- Paulley 15:37, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spear

message: "Enzuigiri" commentary is lie.Please make some revisions.
:You do it.Bdve 15:12, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Enzuigiri

message: Does anyone actually have this as a specifically named move?  In the UK a European uppercut is known as a forearm smash, and has been for decades. Sasaki 22:10, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forearm smash? 

message: In the elbowdrop picture, there is no way that's KoKo. Isnt that D-Von?
:It is in fact KoKo during Rob Conway's run of defeating old school WWE gimmicks. –– Lid(Talk) 09:40, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misalbeled picture 

message: I mean, I'll get reverted, so I'm not going to make this edit anymore.  But who cares if people misspell the name of a move?  How is that relevant content for an encyclopedia? Croctotheface 06:46, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was indeed reverted, sans explanation as to why it matters at all. Anybody?  Why does an encyclopedia care about misspellings?  Lots of words are misspelled all the time, should every article include such a mention? Croctotheface 00:26, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It wasn't reverted, it was re-added. If misspellings are common enough then yes they deserve mention.«»bd(talk stalk) 00:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why? Croctotheface 01:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because it can head off confusion.«»bd(talk stalk) 01:25, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If the concern is that editors will come to the article and change the article to introduce a misspelling, a hidden comment would accomplish the same goal.  But I suppose that if these kinds of edits have been an issue in the past, it makes some degree of sense. Croctotheface 01:35, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why are common typos relevant?   

message: Didn't Nigel McGuiness's pure title merge with Bryan Danielsons ROH World Title, thus destroying the pure division? Please correct me if I am wrong. If I am right then I, or someone else, should edit the bit in the article that states that ROH's pure division does not tolerate punches.
83.233.58.34 20:52, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isn't the Pure Division gone? 

message: I was looking at the Splash section, and I noticed "Five Star Frog Splash" wasn't listed. Maybe somebody could add that, assuming it is a professional wrestling attack.24.218.139.157 02:57, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splash Section 

message: I'm curious to know why certain sections are 'allowed' to have known users of the moves listed and linked and yet my edits to other sections with the same info have been reverted twice with no discussion or explanation other than "Don't do that". A quick perusal of the article reveals over 40 direct references to wrestlers who use certain moves, and I'm not counting the ones named after wrestlers. Either accept the additional info or edit the entire article to remove all such references for uniformity. I will add as a side note that accurate descriptions of wrestling moves can be difficult or confusing even for fans; having an idea of what a move looks like by association with a wrestler who can be seen performing it will go a long way towards clarity.   If there is some compelling logic behind undoing such changes, posting in talk is a more effective use of time because it will also help other potential editors to understand the flow of the page. Enigmatic2k3 (talk) 07:53, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if you were to look at the edit history, you would have seen the reasoning. The point is that moves should only list users who popularized the move, invented the move, named the move, is readily identified with the move (think Jeff Hardy and the Swanton), or has a version of the move that is so incredibly different or worthy or mentioning that it is. The users you added do not fit these descriptions. For example, Randy Orton does the foot stomp? Okay. So do a lot of people. If we begin to name users of moves, especially contemporary ones, we are opening a flood gate to all sorts of listcruft. Hope that helps. Nikki311 14:33, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: One more thing, your addition to the double foot stomp was put before a citation, which is incorrect and messes up the format. New additions go behind citations so as to not confuse what is actually being cited. I'm (once again) going to revert your edit. Nikki311 14:35, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Users of moves? 

message: :While picking up the upper half of the ring steps for use as a weapon is illegal, slamming an opponent into the ring steps is not considered illegal, though it is frowned upon.
You do realize that it's scripted. And that they're faking frowning upon. :D\=< (talk) 19:39, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, of course. It's frowned upon within kayfabe. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 20:37, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frowned upon? 

message: I've read the descriptions of the clothesline and lariat and i just dont see the difference. Can someone please deascribe to me what the difference is between a lariat and a clothesline? Please?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skilldog2 (talk • contribs) 21:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lariat/Clothesline 

message: I think that "shining" has to be added to transition moves. It is a transition move because many diffent moves can be performed after steping off opponents raised knee. I'm not saying that it has to be removed from knee strikes. I just feel that "shining" is a transition move.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Azihade (talk • contribs) 16:32, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shining? 

message: An "attack" could be anything.  An air raid, or a suicide bombing, is, technically, an attack, so the article's name is very generic.
However, a "strike," which is what these moves are, is a very specific kind of attack, so I think that would be a more fitting name for this article.Wikieditor1988 (talk) 05:57, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, sorry for the delay. InedibleHulk (talk) 02:39, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Request to change the name to "Professional wrestling strikes"

message: Even though it is no longer commonly used, at one point William Regal once utilized the Power of The Punch, an illegal closed fist strike with brass knuckles worn about the hand, often concealed from the referees' vision by way of being tucked either into his tights or a boot. Regal would then attempt to dispense of the knuckles before the referee realized what had happened so as to avoid a DQ loss.98.209.48.133 (talk) 06:05, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Request to add a move to the Weapon attacks section or Punches section

message: Is stomach punch illegal? I saw Big Show used it on Jamie Noble multiple times on this video, or all of it was choreographed. 72.130.134.122 (talk) 08:28, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stomach punch 

message: It says Van Dam on the page once. Maybe link it to Rob Van Dam. --82.171.70.54 (talk) 22:37, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion: Van Dam 

message: Is there a discussion somewhere on WP talk space that reaches consensus that professional "wrestling" is to be discussed within pure kayfabe on WP? Really, articles like this are completely unencyclopedic and misleading to the uninitiated, simply because they don't report the truth: none of these moves are designed to actually do any real damage (in fact, quite the opposite). I mean, yeah, I get kayfabe and why ppl want to enjoy it, but a truthful article here should mention in the first paragraph that this article describes athletic, acrobatic moves designed for entertainment, and not any sort of actual 'attack' or 'fighting' (or for that matter, real 'wrestling'). Describing each move 'as though' it inflicted the stage-managed illusionary damage is fine -- but readers should first be made very clear that these moves are choreographed and rehearsed carefully, and, if carried out with serious intent, would almost all be either permanently disabling or even fatal. IMHO. Eaglizard (talk) 13:26, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kayfabe 

message: How do we know Kenta used it before Punk? Punk is older and started wrestling earlier so it seems likely. Punk started using it in 2005 latest in OVW.  Is there a record of Kenta using it before then? Keep in mind, he only started wrestling in mid 2000.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.39.231.124 (talk) 20:28, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: We know KENTA used it before CM Punk because KENTA invented the go 2 sleep. the first use of it was against Mitsuharu Misawa on August 28, 2004, the video of which can be found here (skip to 14:45). after signing with WWE, Punk changed a lot of his wrestling style to be a copy of KENTA's, which included his finisher. 184.41.20.123 (talk) 17:40, 16 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Go To Sleep 

message: I wouldn't say that Cesaro popularized the move. It was used by some popular wrestlers before him, ie. Kurt Angle or William Regal. Even if he uses it as a signature move, it was a commonly used move before he started to use it. Puchacz9012 (talk) 22:41, 24 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  European Uppercut 

message: In the Go To Sleep section, there's just a typo where "the" is spelled "tbe" Schaichopath (talk) 15:06, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I've fixed it, thanks for spotting it. Boing! said Zebedee (talk) 15:14, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 14 November 2017 

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thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 24 September 2020 

message: I would like to correct improper infomartion on the headbutt section JohnnyTheBuilder (talk) 18:06, 17 February 2021 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 17 February 2021 

message: I want to add something in Professional wrestling strikes 206.162.231.105 (talk) 01:13, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 18 May 2021 

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thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 April 2022