Talk:Baikonur Cosmodrome

message: During the Soviet period, the complex was operated almost exclusively by residents of Russia and created very little benefit for the Kazakh economy -- 1. People who operated the complex had to live there which effectively makes them residents of Kazakh SSR. 2. Back in Soviet times there was no such thing as a Kazakh, Russian, Latvian, etc. economy. So the second part of the sentence makes no sense either. I am removing it. Whoever wrote it in the first place, do you think it's an apparently NPOV way of saying Evil (ethnic) Russians came and built this polluting monster on Kazakh soil and no (ethnic) Kazakh ever benefitted from it? -- apoivre 15:46, 21 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I second that, but for different reasons. (1) Where did you see cosmodromes contribute to economy? Ususlly they gobble nation's resources, probably making contractors rich. (2) While it was "operated" by Russians (who provided skilled labor) but someone else fed them, dressed them, delivered them fuel, machine parts (and pretty Kazakh girls), removed garbage, etc. In better times all this alone could have made the "placeholder" rich (And I have no slightest doubt that a couple of Kazakh "bais" did some black profit). Mikkalai 16:50, 21 May 2004 (UTC)

text: В пожаре по официальным по официальным данным, погибло 74 человека. Позже от ожогов и ран скончались ещё четверо (по другим данным погибло от 92 до 126 человек),цифры есть но 100 еще не доказано Цйфыву (talk) 20:46, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: this is about the Nedelinsky catastrophe, and Tobonov is a scientist with his own opinion, very controversial, with which other scientists and public figures do not agree Цйфыву (talk) 20:50, 22 November 2022 (UTC)
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message: That dispute has prompted Russia to begin upgrading its own Plesetsk Cosmodrome in the Arkhangelsk Oblast of Northern Russia as a fallback option.
The above statement isn't sourced. It's 100% pure speculation. And most probably wholly untrue.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.140.187 (talk) 13:32, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure about this statement either; it was probably based on rumours, so I removed it. I replaced it with a statement regarding the Vostochny Cosmodrome, sourced by an interview with the head of Kazakhstan's space agency. Mlm42 (talk) 19:50, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
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message: A lot of Russian historians (Gudilin for example) have said that "Baikonur" was chosen to misdirect the USA away from Tyura-Tam.  The reference to the entire region being called Baikonur is a quote from an American astronaut.  The comment about the town of Baikonur only being named in the 1990s is a confused reference to the renaming of Tyura-Tam to "Baikonur", not the name of the original town which was 350 km north of Tyura-Tam.  This issue needs some fact checking, the validity of the section in this article is questionable. DonPMitchell (talk) 16:10, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
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message: It's not the worlds oldest spaceport.  Cape Canaveral Air Force Station had its first launch in 1950, Baikonur in 1955.  Leuband (talk) 19:18, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It wasn't the space launch in 1950, russians had the same launches in 1950 R-1 (missile) , but it's not enough to call it spaceport--80.66.69.228 (talk) 06:26, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: the worlds oldest

message: Although Kazakhstan & Russia are officially partners in Baikonur Cosmodrome, it is perfect obvious than Kazakhstan is very much the subordinate partner. That aside, since the most significant portion of Baionur's history is the Soviet space program, could we include a map which shows Baikonur relative to the entire old Soviet Union? V. Joe (talk) 03:47, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure where you get the "senior partner" bit.  Kazakhstan is very much in the driver's seat concerning ownership issues, with Russia in the lessor role.  True, Russia supplies the expertise, but Kazakhstan is raising up its own crop of scientists and engineers. While you're at it, include the Semipalatinsk Atomic Test Site (also ceded to Kazakhstan, and permanently closed by the latter, the Sary Shagan missile test area, and the nearby Kapustin Yar military rocket test site. SkoreKeep (talk) 15:28, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Vous semblez vous contredire ici! De toute évidence, la Russie est le "senior partner", n'est-ce pas? Henrilebec (talk) 06:24, 20 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Soviet map

message: " Dead wildlife and livestock were usually incinerated, and the participants in these incinerations, including Tobonov, his brothers and inhabitants of his native village of Eliptyan Horulinskogo naslega commonly died from stroke or cancer." 
I doubt the significance of this statement. 75% of the western word dies of stroke and cancer so it does not seem unusual that "Tobonov, his brothers and inhabitants" would.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.61.72.7 (talk) 03:51, 28 November 2013 (UTC)
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message: "Also, it is advantageous to place space launch sites closer to the equator, as the surface of the Earth has higher rotational speed in such areas."
I doubt that's the main reason, the energy speed boost of launching from, say, Guiana Space Center at 5° North over Kennedy Space Center, at 28° North, is 180 kph compared to 28,000 kph which is the normal LEO orbital velocity. I would say the main advantage is the ability to launch to very low-inclination orbits with less rocket-power.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Galopujacyjez (talk • contribs) 12:08, 10 April 2019 (UTC)
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message: Could someone with access to the article (paywall), or to local news reports, please check what this is about? Aviationweek.com is reporting that Kazakh authorities have seized Russian assets at Baikonur spaceport. Renerpho (talk) 03:36, 14 March 2023 (UTC)
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