Talk:La Palma

message: To 81.39.114.134 - whoever you are. The name of the island is LA PALMA whether in Spanish or English - Palma is a town in the Balearics. SO LEAVE THE NAME ALONE. Also please note I happen to live on La Palma, I am a Geologist and Volcanologist speak excellent English and assure you that your "anglicanisation" of La Palma is WRONG. The Geologist (talk) 18:12, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: When Leopold von Buch published his memoirs in respect of his visit to the Canary Islands in 1815, he introduced the whole geological community to a new word for a depression formed by volcanic activity. Until then the commonly used word was based around the word "Cauldron" for a large cooking pot. The word that von Buch introduced and passed from German into all other languages was CALDERA. English speaking geologists were amongst some of the last who came to use the term having for many years post von Buch preferred the word "cauldron" to describe the same phenomena.The Geologist (talk) 14:02, 16 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: CALDERA

message: what happened during the civil war ?
that megatsunami stuff is disputed - here it presented as 100% likely
I reworded the megatsunami secion to make clear it is in dispute.  Johntex 18:54, 30 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Random old comments

message: The Volcano section is not neutral; words such as "falsely" and "publicity-seeking" should not be used, as they are expressions of opinion, not fact.  Please correct the problem.  -Rcnj
: yeah the previous changed version wasn't that good either, sure you can't agree with the theory but to go the other way and say the scientists are bad and all isn't the correct way either. i have put the old version back, which shows the theory isn't unchallenged. Boneyard 22:22, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Volcano section is not NPOV 

message: The 'western half' of La Palma did not ABSOLUTELY NOT 'slip 4 meters in 1949. This is a proveable lie propogated by the press on the basis of an interview with the boss of one of the scientists.
Please remove this LIE, or produce scientific evidence to support it. You will have to look hard because there is ZERO evidence to support this claim. The ONLY physical evidence of any problem is a small, very shallow, surface crack 2km long which was caused by local subsidence.
The 1949 opening I work on La Palma as a geologist and can assure you and indeed anyone else that the volcano DID move in 1949. The details can be checked in Rubio Bonelli 1950. However the details which have not changed by 2008 are as follows: length of rift = 2.5 km, width of opening 1 m and maximum vertical displacement is 2 m. The eruption was accompanied by earthquakes which are thought to be indicative of edifice failure and are quoted as being proof that the Cumbre Vieja is "about" to fall into the Atlantic Ocean. I suggest you also read the entry for the Cumbre Vieja. The Geologist (talk) 16:23, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The whole is a conjecture. There is no data to indicate that a flank failure is imminent. indeed I doubt if even your grandchildren will see the flank fail - no guarantees. The Horizon programme presented the data as interpreted by Day and Ward and Day, it did not present it as an absolute fact.The Geologist (talk) 12:54, 6 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have just returned from measuring the Cumbre Vieja - and its dimensions are still the same as those recorded by Rubio Bonelli in 1949 ~2.5 km long, 1 m wide and 2 m maximum vertical displacement. In other words it still hasn't moved. He visited the ridge before and during the eruption and it was as a result of the earlier visit that he noted the day after the earthquake that the fissure had opened. He measured it and recorded those dimensions. What is happening and DGPS readings prove this, is that the whole island plus the others is slowly moving westwards due to the counter-clockwise rotation of the African tectonic plate as it moves northwards into Europe.The Geologist (talk) 17:40, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This is Original Research, please do not include it in the article. - Arjayay (talk) 19:07, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The information about the La Palma Tsunami is incorrect 

message: The information in the BBC Horizon program is based on the work of 2 scientists whose motives are highly suspect. At least 7 other reputable scientists have torn holes in the BBC story and the suggestions in the program have been discredited. There is NO scientific basis for their ridiculous claims. A co-author of the original work has branded their claims as ridiculous and not based on scientific fact.
Boneyard: Please do not change the essence of this text back to the incorrect repeating of the media hype unless you can PROVE that there is scientific evidence.
The words "falsely" and "publicity-seeking" are in my opinion accurate, but I appreciate that they might not be appropriate.
We need to put this information into perspective without giving too much credence to a program that was effectively a work of fiction. 
Brian
You might like to consult the page regarding the Cumbre Vieja. There is a large list of peer reviewed papers - about 30, referred to. All are properly referenced and available via the internet.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.102.13 (talk) 13:31, 17 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrections to the Cumbre Vieja story 

message: I have to repeat this and request that the person who keeps re-publishing the completely unfounded and incorrect statement that "During the 1949 eruption the western half of the Cumbre Vieja ridge slipped several metres downwards into the Atlantic Ocean"  STOPS presenting this LIE as Fact. It is NOT a fact, It is a complete falsification.
It dropped 2 metres and opened a 1 metre wide fissure over about 2500 metres. Total volume displaced is about 5000 cubic metres. The report by Rubio Bonelli gives further information.The Geologist (talk) 16:34, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, we do cite a reputable source.  It seems perhaps 81.38.247.152 might want to cite another reputable source that disagrees? Johntex\talk 02:53, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done. :-) (I'm not 81.38.247.152, just for the record.) Waitak 09:02, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  INCORRECT INFORMATION : INFORMATION NOT VERIEFED AND NOT VERIFIABLE 

message: The article states in part:
:[The Caldera de Taburiente] is surrounded by the Cumbre Vieja, a ring of mountains ranging from 1.6 km to 2.4 km in height. [...] Through the southern part of La Palma leads the ridge Cumbre Nueva.
This is incorrect. Cumbre Nueva is the northern part of a ridge going south from the caldera, and Cumbre Vieja is the (much younger!) southern continuation of that ridge, where active volcanism occurs. See  and . (The latter article is also interesting as it estimates the extend of a tsunami caused by a future collapse of the western flank of Cumbre Vieja.) AxelBoldt 00:01, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cumbre Vieja vs. Cumbre Nueva

message: Lanzarote is Junonia and not Palma
Who the hell has stated that Junonia in Pliny the Elder is Palma and not Lanzarote (together with Fuerteventura)?
Proof 1:
Pliny mentions: "etiam spatia complexus Iunoniam abesse ad Gadibus DCCL p. tradit, ab ea tantundem ad occasum versus Pluvialiam Capriaramque".
Palma is the westernmost island of the Canaries and therefore in the west of Junonia there is no island of the Canaries (no Pluvialia and no Capriaria).
Proof 2: In Claudy Ptolemy the O-meridian is set through the westernmost island of the known world and this was through the Canaries. That means through Palma. But according to Ptolemy two islands of the Canaries are not in the 0-meridian but on the 1-meridian in the direction of Mauretanian coast and these are Lanzarote and Fuerteventura (Iunonia) and Gran Canaria (Canaria).
--213.55.131.22 17:38, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment re "proofs": El Hierro is further west than La Palma, and can probably be easily seen from there; that is the island which was used for the 0 meridian. 89.125.136.233 (talk) 20:57, 4 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Junonia

message: User:62.14.122.84 removed the following link to an article on the tidal wave theory:
* Scientists warn of massive wave
I've put it back. The motivation is that a WP article should present a balance of information, with enough to let the reader draw his or her own conclusion. It's unacceptable to remove a reputable link because the editor disagrees with it. Waitak 11:46, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reversion of ref removal 

message: The Tsunami Society statementshould be backed with a proper reference or be erased. 
This phrase may be questionable: 
<<However, the Tsunami Society (Pararas-Carvayannis, 2002), published a statement stating "... We would like to halt the scaremongering from these unfounded reports ...">>
BBC Horizon is known to be backed by scientific evidence which you can obtain by looking at their own references. 
The story abour Delpht University was removed since I could NOT find the alleged published paper about it so this may be just counter-propaganda made by people who cannot give proper references. If US people living on the Atlantic are facing the La Palma threath, they should be aware of it and their governement should address the issue by sending their best researchers. Their amry should seal-off the Island since a little A bomb in the trench would be sufficient to wipe-out Washington, NYC and Boston.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.122.156.61 (talk) 15:25, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Tsunami Society statement 

message: What if a hurricane was hitting La Palma and then, at that very precise moment, a giant asteroid then fell right on that hurricane?!! My calculations show that the hurricane winds would compress the resulting explosion of the asteroid strike, causing a mega-tornado. The asteroid would also shatter Depalmas volcano, causing it to erupt violently. 
But here is the really scary thing-- the resulting volcano eruption would then be sucked into the air by the mega-tornado. The cyclonic affect of the tornado would then intensify the released volcanic gasses in an unprecedented manner. This would multiply the intense heat of these gasses, causing the entire Island of La Palma to melt. And once melted, the Atlantic ocean all around La Palma would then start to boil violently. This could then, in effect, cause an unprecedented boil-nami-- deadly boiling waves that would spread, boiling and spreading and spreading and boiling, until all of the Atlantic was consumed in a great frothy boil.  This would effectively poach the entire coastlines of North America, South America, Greenland and possibly Hollywood. 
For these reasons we need to evacuate all of coastal North and South America now. I hope action is taken before it's too late.
99.201.163.190 (talk) 18:18, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: What if an Asteroid Hit La Palma Just as it Was Being Hit by a Hurricane?

message: La Palma is a music band, living in France. 
This is a double-bass/drums/piano trio which performs instrumental-jazz-pop music. Something almost cinematic.
A new album is going to be published, forthcoming in 2012, with featured musicians, it will be called "Easy Years".
Published albums : "La Palma" (2008) : La Palma CD
Itunes : Itunes
Band Facebook : Facebook
MySpace : MySpace  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackbread11 (talk • contribs) 18:48, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music Band