Talk:List of Northern Irish flags

message: Orange and white not gold and white surely!?--Vintagekits 17:49, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No one!?!--Vintagekits 17:07, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: More interested in arguing then commenting on this lads?--Vintagekits 16:27, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Armagh GAA has it as Orange and white.--padraig3uk 17:19, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know but the flag used in da article is yalla un white!--Vintagekits 17:35, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree!! This flag needs changed to Orange and White!! - Any takers? --  RÓNÁN   "Caint / Talk"  23:05, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colours of Armagh 

message: The Church of Ireland General Synod meeting at the Royal Hospital Kilmainham on Tuesday 18 May 1999 passed the following motions:
1. The General Synod of the Church of Ireland recognises that from time to time confusion and controversy have attended the flying of flags on church buildings or within the grounds of church buildings. This Synod therefore resolves that the only flags specifically authorised to be flown on church buildings or within the church grounds of the Church of Ireland are the cross of St Patrick or, alternatively, the flag of the Anglican Communion bearing the emblem of the Compassrose. Such flags are authorised to be flown only on Holy Days and during the Octaves of Christmas, Easter, the Ascension of Our Lord and Pentecost, and on any other such day as may be recognised locally as the Dedication Day of the particular church building. Any other flag flown at any other time is not specifically authorised by this Church. ...."
I shall therefore add this in place of the Irish tricolour.
163.167.129.124 11:57, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: eh!no! the Irish tricolor is used by the republican and nationalist communities in Northern Ireland - therefore shouldbe usedin the unofficial section asIhave outlined. Idont see what the "The General Synod of the Church of Ireland" (a protestant church)has to do with a largely Catholic community!--Vintagekits 12:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is that your POV (again)? Meanwhile, I have reported you for breach of the 3RR. 163.167.129.124 12:27, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I are you seriously stating that the republican and nationalist communities in Northern Ireland dont use the Irish tricolor? 2. As for the 3RR - I have made 2 revert and you have made 3 - so good luck with that!--Vintagekits 12:43, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you seriously stating that the de facto flag of NI should be removed from all UK templates, as you have been systematically doing..? These templates appear on many other articles and you are making them inconsistent and untidy. 163.167.129.124 12:52, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Answering a question with a question - sounds like you have lost the argument. Both flags are unofficial, both flags have some de facto status, the UB has more de facto status due to the fact that it was an one point used to represent the "Government of Northern Ireland" and because it is used in the Commonwealth Games and by FIFA and UEFA. Its official status has now finished and its use by some external sporting organisation (note not used by the two biggest sporting organisations in NI) does not confer de facto status. Therefore neither flag should be used to represent it. Either find an alternative or remove it. Its a matter of facts over POV.--Vintagekits 13:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your attempt to play down the only major sporting organisations to represent Northern Ireland internationally as being minor is laughable. The GAA or IRFU or whoever else you are trying to imply as being the largest do not represent Northern Ireland internationally, nor do they even have a Northern Ireland team in the first placeJonto 18:23, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Just noticed on the rear end and tail of a BA plane that the UJ, Scottish saltire, welsh flag and the St. Patricks cross are all depicted but no UB.--Vintagekits 17:09, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: so what?Jonto 18:23, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just goes further to show that the sectarian rag is ignored by even the British!!--Vintagekits 18:37, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  You do realise that you've now just made a highly sectarian comment by describing the internationally recognised de facto Flag of Northern Ireland as "the sectarian rag"? Jonto 19:42, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please explain how so? additonally 1. it is a "sectarian rag", 2. it is not the "Flag of Northern Ireland"  - slainte!--Vintagekits 13:53, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: St. Patrick's flag

message: Can editors stop removing this from the article, it may not be a flag but is the Emblem used by the Northern Ireland Assembly.--padraig3uk 10:32, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not a flag- so shouldn't be in a list of flags article. That is POV. Astrotrain 12:40, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is used by the Northern Ireland Assembly, and considering that is the government of that area I think they can decide what symbol represents them and it made perfectly clear that it is not a flag.--padraig3uk 12:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is entiled 'List of Northern irish flags' - pure and simple. I notice you are not pushing to also add the NI coat of arms. As to Vitagekits claim that 'there is no consensus to remove asemby emblum', there was no consensus to add it in the first place since this article is only 1 week old. Jonto 00:06, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

text: There is no concencus to remove this banner so leave it alone, it is a offical emblem of the assembly.--padraig3uk 08:26, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  There was never any consensus to remove the Flag of Northern Ireland from the Northern Ireland page, or any other template and page- that hasn't stopped you. In any case, this is a page about flags, not emblems or logos. Also- it cannot be used here per Wikipedia's fair use policy on images- either remove it- or it will be reported. Astrotrain 08:35, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not about the Northern Ireland page which is a different issue, and the flag wasn't remove from that page it was removed from th infobox and still remains in the main article.  The Northern Ireland Assembly is the government of Northern Ireland, you may not accept that but it is fact therefore the banner or symbol for that assembly should be in the article.  As for the coat of arms if you wish to add it go ahead and we can put both it and the Ulster Banner into a Historical flags and Emblems section, I have no problem with that.--padraig3uk 08:43, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is the logo, but not the flag- the logos of the UK, Scottish Parliaments and Welsh Assemblies are not in those pages for example. The UB is not an historical flag- this has been pointed out numerous times to you with relevant sources and links. It is an unoffical flag as it still used in some situations. Astrotrain 14:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe that because the UK Parliament, Scottish and Welsh Assemblies have National flags that they use, whereas Northern Ireland dosen't have a National flag therefore we used the Assembly logo as the next best thing to represent the government of Northern Ireland the Executive of the Northern Ireland Assembly.  I'am fully aware of the un-official use of the Ulster Banner by the UDA and LVF/UVF in marking out their areas of Northern Ireland.--padraig3uk 14:58, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

text: It's not a flag- hence its removal- and it fails fair use here anywayAstrotrain 13:26, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It dosent fail fair use, shall we remove the coat of arms from the Northern Ireland article, or the royal coat of Arms from the British articles, you are only removing it to try and WP:Point.--padraig 14:29, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually I agree that it should not be on this page - its was List of symbols in Northern Ireland then that would be different.--Vintagekits 21:10, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Assembly Banner

message: Padraig is edit warring here- insisting on downgrading the unofficial flag by lumping it with an "Others" section. Thus the article is POV in this state. Astrotrain 16:58, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: An un-official flag has no more status then any other un-official flag, and therefore should be in others, unless you wish to have a Historical flag section and place it in that.--padraig 17:03, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Astrotrain - you are bltantly disrupting wiki with your revert wars - there is no concensus to use that flags so simply dont use it until you have. Stop edit warring.--Vintagekits 17:04, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is not historical as it is still in use. Astrotrain 17:04, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *sigh* there is a centralised discussion of the Northern Ireland talkpage - until there is concensus to use it then DONT!--Vintagekits 17:07, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  There never was a consensus not to use the flag. Astrotrain 17:15, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wiki doesnt work like that - you need concensus to use something - not to not use something. The onus it on those wanting to use something to prove it should be used. Anyway - the last time there was concensus the concensus was NOT to use it.--Vintagekits 17:25, 19 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Oh yeah the !vote where you got all those sock and meat puppets of yours to vote on? Astrotrain 17:29, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Which one of them them voted and which one is a sock of mine?? Also if you discounted all of their votes woul the outcome have been different?--Vintagekits 17:34, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: Should this not not be entitled "List of Northern Ireland Flags" rather "Northern Irish" as much or the territory in the north of the island straddles two political domains? Mr Parker (talk) 20:42, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, I think that the article title is misleading as many flags shown as not specifically for NI. I propose to move the article title back to List of flags in Northern Ireland, which is what is was prior to Astrotrains undiscussed move. Suggestions? Thoughts?--Vintagekits (talk) 10:34, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur. Lets see what responses there are, and if necessary I'll do the deletions and move. Remind me in a few days if I forget to come back here. Canterbury Tail talk 15:40, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Article title