Talk:Sligo

message: * Support: See Wikipedia:Naming conventions (city names)#Ireland --Philip Baird Shearer 17:39, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: Looking for a non-copyright-vio photo of Streeda Strand to illustrate Spanish Armada in Ireland. Help.--shtove 23:52, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spanish Armada 

message: Excuse me The. Q I was recently reviewing your previous mumblings and couldn't help but notice that you seem to have added an utterly unneccessary apostrophe on your otherwise reasonably creditable synopsis dated 23rd June 2006. May I ask if at all you are a qualified Wikipedian and if so why you would allow such an obvious typographical error to destroy what would have otherwise been an argument that I simply could not have disagreed with. However since this mistake I have been unduly traumatised and suffered the nightmare of severe sleep disturbance with dramatic side effects such as breaking out in a cold sweat nightly as I fear for the safety of this exceptional information mine if it is being prowled by grammatically ignorant miscreants such as yourself.
--Qwertyuiopasdfgh vfen 19:03, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please excuse my poor grammar.  I suppose one incorrectly placed apostrophe could ruin it for you, but I hope the meaning of what I was trying to say was not lost.  Please accept my humblest apologies. --The.Q 12:32, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Grammatical Correction

message: I am posting this to apologise for an edit I made on the main page without properly understanding wikipedia norms and protocol.  It involved the shortening of the last line in the introductory paragraph to omit the statement made without citation that Sligo was voted the shitiest town in Ireland, a comment which was not only vulgar but also completely unnecessary, and I mentioned previously, lacking in citation.  I apologise for my hastiness, but would be open to discussion on the matter.  Bilbotv 20:59, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Apologies for unconsidered edit

message: Walkaware inserted "It should be noted that hillwalkers are not encouraged to walk these mountains due to access issues."  While I'm aware that there are access issues to Benwiskin and generally around the Gleniff horseshoe area (basically Benbulben mountain), I am not aware of any issues around access to, walking up or otherwise climbing Knocknarea.  Before I move this line of Walkaware's, can anyone verify (or otherwise) that climbing Knocknarea is causing access problems?
--The.Q 15:33, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I'm moving the statement from Walkaware to ensure it only applies to Benbulben.  --The.Q 12:21, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Access issues on Sligo mountains? 

message: I reverted the changes recently made by 82.19.14.180 for two reasons - 
* I don't believe Flag icons are appropriate here, but more appropriate to an infobox, or other place where full country names cannot be shown easily.
* This user removed links to other pages, Etc., without any reason given, so I have now reinstated them.
--The.Q | Talk 13:38, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually if anything flags are more appropriate than links to other languages of wikpedia. Djegan 14:29, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're probably correct about the links.  I was thinking about that, but wanted to have some reference to prove the details.  I may move those links (both the non-english language Wikipedia ones and the the Talahassee web page) to a references section, where they are probably more appropriate. Would that suffice, or do you think the flags should be reinstated as well? I haven't been around here as long as you, djegan, so I'd be happy to change it back again. --The.Q | Talk 14:39, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Twin Cities and Flags

message: This article is becoming a bit of a mess.
Does anyone want to make a go at retuning it?
Djegan 00:07, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: recent edits

message: There was recently an edit changing the translation of Sligeach from shelly place to shelly river. I do not know the Irish language but have a reference regarding Irish place names which suggests abounding in shells as its meaning. (Reference: Deirdre Flanagan and Laurence Flanagan, Irish Place Names, Gill & MacMillan, .) This sounds as if Sligeach has just a reference to shells but not to river. My Irish dictionary tells that sliogán is the Irish word for shells and abhainn for river. In conclusion, I do not think that shelly river is the correct translation. However, a native Irish speaker or an expert in Irish place names might have a more educated opinion. --AFBorchert 05:49, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that you are correct. The Irish for shell is "sliogán". "Sligeach" therefore (at a low level) just means "shelly" - or - by extension, "shelly place". I think it is OK for you to revert - unless the anon editor can provide additional reference for the change. Guliolopez 10:36, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have always been informed that it meant "shelly river".--Vintagekits 10:37, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I like the current state which provides a very generic translation (shelly place) which is interpreted in various ways in the rest of that paragraph, i.e. by giving references to shellfishes, the river, and shell middens. If shelly place is replaced by a more specific variant like shelly river, references to the other possible interpretations do no longer make sense. Finally, this generic variant is supported by Flanagan & Flanagan (see above) and the Sligo county council web page. I would suggest to provide a reference which points to this book and to the web page. Regarding the Britannica: I'm not sure but this could be based on early  Ordnance Surveys which can not always be relied upon. --AFBorchert 17:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe it's better to just leave as is - as you say. "Place" is a (possibly) generic enough a word to cover both "midden" and "river", and the following text provides additional context. Guliolopez 18:38, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Page 36 of this weeks Sligo Post says that it means "bay of shells"!--Vintagekits 19:48, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The meaning of Sligeach 

message: There are two contradictory statements in the article concerning the meaning of Sligo. One says it means "shelly place" and cites the Sligo Borough Council website to verify the claim—not, perhaps, the best qualified source to offer academically robust scholarship on such matters as word meanings. The other citation from Joyce, an academic, says the name means "the place of two fords", and he directly disputes the "shelly place" interpretation (see footnotes in article). It is not satisfactory that the article contradicts itself. The proper meaning should be determined and only one offered in the article. Unfortunately, the Placenames Database of Ireland does not translate the word "sligeach". — O'Dea (talk) 12:38, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The meaning of "sligeach" revisited

message: Just want to confirm pronunciation is sly-GO, as we have it now, not SLY-go. kwami 08:29, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because you have written the GO part of sly-GO in capital letters, do you mean that this is the stressed syllable?  If so, I'll have to take issue with you.  I've lived in Sligo almost all my life, and no-one I know has ever pronounced it that way, but always with the stress on the first syllable.  If I've misunderstood you (and I'll be the first to acknowledge that I have no idea about IPA English), please let me know, otherwise I'm going to change this back to SLY-go. --The.Q(t)(c) 10:20, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no idea how to pronounce it. Someone wrote it with final stress, and I found that odd. I'll move the stress to the first syllable. kwami 13:31, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The first syllable is to be stressed according to the Collins Dictionary of the English language, . --AFBorchert 22:21, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  pronunciation 

message: Regarding this addition to the article recently: On 7 January 2008, it was revealed that Sligo was the "dirtiest town" in Ireland according to the Irish Business Against Litter survey.
I'm wondering if anyone has any comment on it.
Yes, it's true, this survey did find Sligo the dirtiest town of 50 surveyed in Ireland, but there has also been some criticism of the survey and it's methodology.  Now, I'm not talking about the current Mayor of Sligo's pronouncements see here, which were embarrassing and only to be expected (he certainly had me rolling my eyes in despair).  However, having looked at the IBAL website, the Final Results for 2006 show Sligo had Litter Free Status.Secondly, in 2005, the incongrous nature of the methods used was shown in starker relief, when Ennis won the 2005 Tidy Towns competition, two weeks after being named a litter black-spot by the IBAL survey see here.  I'm not sure how to put this into the article, or whether the survey results should be removed from the article altogether. Any comment? --The.Q(t)(c) 15:53, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, my comment is that the survey result are about as notable as a shooting in Cranmore - news today and forgetten about tommorrow. Shouldn't be contained within the article unless the place has a history or is known as a place that is duuurdi.--Vintagekits (talk) 17:21, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Should I remove the offending text as NN, or is that taking it a step too far? --The.Q(t)(c) 15:12, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dirty ol' town? 

message: I have reinstated the reference to the CSO 2006 Census for the population of the town.  This was removed by 86.154.128.196 in this diff, for no apparent reason.  This user also changed the rural population of the town from 24,096 to 1,510 (quite a significant drop).
The figure of 24,096 (which was also previously referenced, and has been re-referenced) came from those same Census figures (see page 112 of this link), in particular the heading Sligo rural area, which gives a population of 24,096 for 2006.  I don;t know where the figure of 1,510 came from, as it;'s not referneced.  If there is a better reference for the rural population of Sligo town, which shows a population of 1,510, please feel free to change this back.  However, I believe valid references shouldn't be removed unless the reference has been shown to be suspect in some way (and I don't think that can be said of the CSO.  --The.Q(t)(c) 16:04, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I've found it myself, so I'll change the figures and references.  It's on the CSO website at Table 7 of Census 2006.  I'll properly reference it, also. --The.Q(t)(c) 10:45, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population and references 

message: I'm sure I'll probably cause a little controversy by my last edit, but I wanted to set it straight here.
I'm the first to admit that Sligo is a town and not a city (see elsewhere on this talk page for references), and I believe that this article should reflect that.  However, where the term city is erroneously used in other documents/websites, Etc., and this article quotes directly from those, the term city should, of course, be used.  This is why the naming of the bus service in the town is highlighted as the city service.  This is what Bus Éireann call it on their website and on the side of the buses, so to call it anything else would be inaccurate.
I also think this is what a user (Acidbreath I think) was trying to do a while ago, but perhaps was not able to articulate it. Hope this makes sense. --The.Q(t)(c) 12:14, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The changed wording seems reasonable to me. So long as the term doesn't "creep" into other areas. Guliolopez (talk) 12:26, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Completely agree, Gulio, which is why I tried to be careful about how I phrased it, and this explanation. --The.Q(t)(c) 13:00, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  continuing city/town debacle! 

message: Who keeps cutting down the information on the development section!?! You are compromising the usefulness of this article by cutting important points out and leaving the article confusing and practically useless as a source of information!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.46.134.201 (talk) 23:19, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development Section 

message: I find it surprising that the local bus service operates 387 different routes in the town. This should be corrected. I'm not sure what the correct number is (less than 5). KMcD (talk) 14:54, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bus routes 

message: Someone removed St.Mary's college from the list of schools in sligo for no apparent reason. It has now been added again. Please do not remove it again. Also some one changed the name of Scoil Naomh Eanna(Carraroe N.S) to its english form "St.Enda's N.S".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.95.161.152 (talk) 18:48, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: 5 primary schools … and 42 secondary schools
made me raise an eye!
In _County_ Sligo, there appear to be:
71 primary -- http://www.schooldays.ie/primary-schools-in-ireland/primary-Sligo
and 15 secondary -- http://www.schooldays.ie/secondary-schools-in-ireland/Sligo
Perhaps someone with knowledge of Sligo city (and environs) can use more realistic figures than 5p & 42s.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Txarli (talk • contribs) 20:29, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education 

message: : 5 primary schools … and 42 secondary schools
made me raise an eye!
In _County_ Sligo, there appear to be:
71 primary -- http://www.schooldays.ie/primary-schools-in-ireland/primary-Sligo
and 15 secondary -- http://www.schooldays.ie/secondary-schools-in-ireland/Sligo
Perhaps someone with knowledge of Sligo city (and environs) can use more realistic figures than 5p & 42s.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Txarli (talk • contribs) 20:29, 21 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Number of Primary / Secondary schools

message: Just in case there's any question about it, see all the discussion above, and in other places, Sligo is not a city.  It does have a City Hall, a City Bus Service, and so on, but these are just names.  Sligo does not have official city status, and is unlikely to ever have. --The.Q(t)(c) 15:10, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: By the above you would, I presume, be referring to it's possible inclusion (along with the other listed cities of Cork, Dublin, Galway, Limerick, Waterford and Kilkenny) in the local government of ireland act. To a large extent it is generally included with these other urban settlements as a City (such as for example in the National Development Plan). In most European countries and in Canada for example the requirement for city status is a permanent population of more than around 5,000 people which would mean that sligo would certainly meet the requirements within countries with a larger population than Ireland (proportionally it could be argued that we could have potentially more cities than we would even excluding Sligo as an example if we are classing them by proportional population, but then that is another argument). The fact that nominally Sligo is recognised as a City as you mentioned by means of the City Bus Service and the City Hall (and in addition many business such as the Sligo City Hotel) would certainly entitle it to be vernacularly called a City, whatever about legislatively, and as such the inclusion of this name in a wikipedia article would be consistent with this. In addition to this the fact that there is already official precedent to the usage of the name in the form of the National Development Plan and the National Spatial Strategy and the fact that the actual authorties which should be in a position to describe it as a city (i.e. the City/Burgh Council) have described it as such in much of their documentation does lend the term some official weight. The people I imagine are most in opposition to the usage of the term I would see as being people from Dublin or Cork who couldn't stand Connacht having another cities because 'sure we're only dirty thick culchies anyway'. This kind of discrimination should not be allowed and is not consistent with the terms of usage of wikipedia. I would suggest a debate comparable to the Derry/Londonderry City controversy with perhaps the term being Sligo City/Town. Expressions such as 'Sligo will never be a City' sound to me like parochial politics designed to denegrate the long beaten people of the west and to treat our insititutions in a patronising manner and these people should not be allowed edit wikipedia articles in such a cirumstance. The people who should decide whether or not there home is a town or a City are the ones that actually live there and the respective authorities in charge of the region.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.76.101.219 (talk) 13:50, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The assertion at the lead that there is a campaign to have Sligo 'recognised' as a city is not supported by references to reliable sources. In fact the only evidence of any such campaign appears to be here at the Wikipedia article itself. Removing accordingly. RashersTierney (talk) 17:19, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sligo is (still!) not a city 

message: I have removed about half a paragraph on this subject as there are no citations and it is clearly opinion. KMcD (talk) 15:17, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transport - Depedestrianisation of O'Connell Street 

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thread_title: File:Sligo montage.pdf Nominated for Deletion

message: For what its worth, the 2014 film Calvary was filmed (partially) in Sligo and by implication (Sligo is features in numerous signs) is the (main) site of the film. Seems to methat this is worthy of mention for a village of its size, but I'll defer to others on this.216.96.77.230 (talk) 03:21, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Media 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: As I said there's no picture of the Benbuubin mountains, which is a distinct part of Sligo town.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrick Mcdermott25 (talk • contribs) 21:58, 26 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Benbulbin is not actually part of Sligo town; it is part of the County of Sligo, and actually has its own article.  Therefore a stand-alone image of  Benbulbin mountain in the Sligo article would almost certainly be WP:UNDUE, though its appearance in a backdrop of another image would slightly improve that image's candidacy for inclusion of the article.  Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 08:16, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is there no picture of the Benbulbin mountain?  

message: ===Main image===
The previous lead image up to 4th may 2021 was deleted.  On enquiry the rational on the (now deleted) file was: .  I've currently replaced the main image by promoting of the Bourough Council Building.  I'f anyone wishes to suggest a better choice they are welcome but a montage may be felt necessary as it may be not individual image is particularly satisfactory for the role.Djm-leighpark (talk) 09:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image Things 

message: The previous lead image up to 4th may 2021 was deleted.  On enquiry the rational on the (now deleted) file was: .  I've currently replaced the main image by promoting of the Bourough Council Building.  I'f anyone wishes to suggest a better choice they are welcome but a montage may be felt necessary as it may be not individual image is particularly satisfactory for the role.Djm-leighpark (talk) 09:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Main image

message: @ the panoramic image you added in good faith to the Sligo Port section of the article appears to me to be rendering as over dominant and of excessive footprint for the section particularly if the browser has a high width setting.  I feel it should be reduced to a normal size.  Can you also ensure co-ordinate discrepencies on the image are resolved. I would also note Sligo's using camera drones are advised to be aware of relevant legal restrictions in operation.  Thankyou. Djm-leighpark (talk) 09:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Panoramic image in Sligo Port section