Template talk:Lost (TV series)/Archive 05

message: I suggest this box needs huge changes made to it. Firstly i think that it should be arranged as i believe it (or something similar) was aranged when it was divided into the losties and the others and the categories should be "main characters" , "freighters" and "deceased" with the freighters having Charlotte, Miles, Daniel and Frank (who i think needs his own article). The deceased should contain Ana lucia, Boone, Libby, Mr Eko, Nikki, Paulo and Shannon. Charlie should be added at a later date, but he's still essential to the cast and maybe other countries with later broadcast dates may not know he is dead yet? The "main cast" should include everybody else. also Ethan, Christian and Tom should be added to the deceased list.
:Archived discussions have decided against this.  See also WP:RECENT.  –thedemonhog talk • edits 17:40, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Changes 

message: I'm not even sure how long these characters are going to keep their articles (it seems to me that at the moment, one article might be best for the four of them, with a section for each) but do they classify as Main Characters for the template? They're on-screen as regulars but in press releases for the episodes as guest stars. *sighs* It's the bloody Nikki/Paulo thing all over again, isn't it? Tphi (talk) 06:51, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking the same thing. I'm quite sure they not star billed and also that they are casted as guest stars. We've put them as supporting characters on the Danish wikipedia, so far. - Mark Jensen (talk) 12:06, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no problem with keeping the articles for Daniel, Charlotte and Miles because their roles will be significantly expanded and there have already been a few interviews on casting the actors.  And yes, it is Nikki and Paulo all over again.  –thedemonhog talk • edits 18:36, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Freighter characters 

message: Should we add the Oceanic Six to the groups on the nav template? Ursasapien (talk) 07:24, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with adding it. - Mark Jensen (talk) 10:07, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree because it is a redirect.  –thedemonhog talk • edits 15:32, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The Oceanic Six

message: I really think she should have her own page, she's apperared in "Live Togther Die Alone", "Flashes before your eyes", "Catch 22", "Through The Looking Glass" and "The Constant" which is a total of five episodes. And it's pretty clear she will star in alot more. Her charecter has also been stated to be very important not only is she a flashback charecter for Desmond she seems to be one of the only people who knows there are survivors of 815 and knowledge of the Island. Sam10123 (talk) 18:59, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If there is enough information, she can be granted her own page.  –thedemonhog talk • edits 19:22, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Charles Widmore has appeared in five episodes, knows about the Island and is likely to appear in more too - but this isn't enough for either to require an article. I don't think there's enough info on her to warrant a whole one when the paragraph she has on the Characters of Lost page is perfectly ample. Tphi (talk) 19:24, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Penelope Widmore

message: It may be too early for it right now, but I think soon enough the Widmore Corportation should be added to the list of "Groups". It seems that they are now heavily tied to the island and the mythology of the show, and are certainly more important than a group such as Oceanic Airlines. zeldanum1 March 21, 2008  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.168.14.153 (talk) 08:47, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Widmore Corportation

message: Maybe we should have just one article for certain deceased main charecters ie) Ana Lucia, Libb,y, Boone, Shannon, Nikki & Paulo who basically have no big role in the story and never really have done this could save alot of room and make more room for more important charecters too? Maybe a Tallie page with Ana Lucia, Eko, Bernard, Libby and Cindy featured in that would be more apporiate? I'd be willing to try and write the article to see if it would work. Also maybe one article for the charecters from the boat ie) Daniel, Charlotte, Miles and in this case there would be room for others such as Keamy and Frank? And I also think Penelope and Charles Widmore should defintly have a larger description or maybe they could be feautrued in a Widmore Corporation which was suggested? The others could be another one? But I'm pretty sure there is an Others one with Karl, Alex, Richard Tom etc featured so that's alright. The Tail Section survivors now have basically nothing to do with the show anymore with the exception of Bernard and he's a minor charecter. So maybe it's an idea worth thinking about? This way more charecters would have better descriptions and backgrounds and would save Wikipedia some space too?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sammy56789 (talk • contribs) 22:27, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia isn't running out of space, don't worry Tphi (talk) 15:06, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Idea for Cleanup?

message: I’d like to suggest changing this template’s layout to match the more or less “standard”  layout, through:
# reducing the size of the header text to normal size;
# changing the background color of “groups” to #ddddff; and
# changing the altering background color of the “lists” to #fdfdfd and #f7f7f7.
In case you’re wondering what that would look like, here’s an example:
:
                      	
Production:           	DVD releases • Episode list • Music • Season 1 • Season 2 • Season 3 • Season 4
Main characters:      	Ana Lucia • Ben • Boone • Charlie • Charlotte • Claire • Daniel • Desmond • Hurley • Jack • Jin • Juliet  Kate • Libby • Locke • Michael • Miles • Mr. Eko • Nikki • Paulo • Sawyer • Sayid • Shannon • Sun • Walt
Supporting characters:	Alex • Bernard • Christian • Ethan • Rose • Rousseau • Tom
Groups:               	Dharma Initiative • Hanso Foundation • Oceanic Airlines • The Others
Miscellaneous:        	Awards • Find 815 • Lost Experience • Lost: Missing Pieces • Lost: Via Domus • Mythology
But why, you ask? The thing is, I really just don’t see the reason for this template not to follow what seems to be the “standard” layout. –Fred Bradstadt (talk) 18:36, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good to me.  –thedemonhog talk • edits 19:04, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Likewise, no complaints here. Tphi (talk) 21:20, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your positive comments. I went ahead and implemented the changes. –Fred Bradstadt (talk) 13:58, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cheers, looking good :) Tphi (talk) 14:12, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why not use “standard” navbox layout? 

message: I think that maybe the names of the dead characters, like Charlie and Shannon and all of them, should be italicized to let people know that they are no longer main characters, but at one time they were important. 141.157.165.115 (talk) 15:24, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you look through the archives of this talk page, you will see that this has been opposed per an essay on recentism and Wikipedia's manual of style, which states that fiction should always be written in the present tense.  –thedemonhog talk • edits 17:39, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italicizing