Talk:Botorrita plaque

message: I'm thinking of adding a section with various attempts at translation of the first three lines or so, kind of like they have for the beginning paragraph of the Tain. I'll put them here first, as I also work to translate those not already in English. Please review them for any errors, and comment if you think this inappropriate for whatever reason. I'll start with Wolfgang Meid (German) (Die Erste  Botorrita-Inschrift:  Interpretation  eines keltiberischenSprachdenkmals.  Innsbruck:  Inst,  für  Sprachwissenschaft der  Universität Innsbruck. 1993. 132 S., 8 Abb., 8°. ISBN 3-85124-639-X (Innsbrucker  Beiträge zur Sprachwissen-schaft, 76)) (as reviewed by Karl Horst Schmidt in 1998, Indogermanische  Forschungen, 103, pp. 281 ff.) Villar (Spanish) and Adrados (Latin!): 
1) tiricantam percunetacam tocoitoscue sarniciocue sua compalces nelitom "Betreffend  das 'bergige' Gebiet des Togoit- und des Sarnicios wurde folgendes verfügt als nicht erlaub"
"Concerning the hilly region of Togoit and of the Sanricii, the following has been decreed as not allowed"
2.  necue to uertaunei litom necue taünei litom necue masnai tisaunei litom, sos aucu arestalo tamai "Weder ist es erlaubt, dort (?) (etwas) daraufzutun,  noch  ist es erlaubt,(Arbeiten) zu verrichten, noch ist es erlaubt, durch ,Bruch' Schaden zu verüben" [außer  mit  Erlaubnis des Vorstehers] 
"it is not allowed to do (anything), neither is it allowed to perform/carry out [works], nor is it allowed to perpetrate breakage/harm" [except by permission of the directors].
3.  uta  oscues  stena  uersoniti,  silapur  sleitom  conscilitom  capiseti,  cantom  sancilistara otanaum  tocoitei eni.  "Wer  immer  aber  diese  (Verbote) übertritt"  bzw.  „wer  immeraber  derartige  Tätigkeiten  durchführen möchte,  soll  ...  Silber  nehmen,  (und  zwar)hundert sancilistara (Werteinheiten), um es im (Tempel des) Togoit- zu deponieren" 
"But whoever violates these (prohibitions)...must take silver, (specifically) 100 sancilistar (units of value), to deposit at the (temple of) Togoit."
4. iom asecati ampitincounei, stena es uertai entara tiris matus tinpitus; netto tirncantameni oisatus "Wenn er (Erde) aussticht zum Zwecke des Bauens, dann soll er diese (Materialien) innerhalb von 3 Tagen (?) aus der Umhegung herausschaffen;  in das  Gebietdes Neitos  soll  er  (sie) hineinbringen"
Villar, F. ("La linea inicial del bronce de Botorrita" in Studia indogermanica et palaeohispanica in honorem A. Tovar et L. Michelena. Salamanca, 1990, pp. 375-392, as found in Adrados, 1995):
1. "en relación con el trescantos (llamado) Bertunetaca de Tokoit y Sarnicia así (es) el acuerdo" 
In relations to the trescantos (named) Bertuneteca of Tokoit and Sarnicia, this is the settlement/accord:"
Rodríguez Adrados (Rodríguez Adrados, Francisco. "Propuestas para la interpretación de Botorrita I". In: Emerita: Revista de lingüística y filología clásica. Vol. 63. Nº 1. 1995. pp. 1-16): 
1. "Tricanta (=Trivium vel Trifinium) lucum Togoitisque Sarniciique. Ita senatus. Nefas:"
"With regard to the place Tricanta (the meeting of three roads or of three boundaries) of Togotus and of Sarnicius, the council (has determined) thus--[it is] forbidden: 
2. ...sos aucu arestalo tamai "Hoc (ist) autem decretum populo"
Eska (Eska, Joseph F. (1988) Towards an interpretation of the Hispano-Celtic inscription of BotorritaUniversity of Toronto (Canada) ProQuest Dissertations Publishing NL43452):
1. "Regarding a well-wrought boundary structure, the senators of Tocoitom and of Sarnicios [have agreed/decided that] [it is] not permitted"
2. "that it be demolished or destroyed or broken apart by violence." (from sos to tamai remains untranslated, probably a tag on the preceding prohibition)
3. "and whoever carries out these things, he should give cut (pieces) of silver (namely) 100 sanclistera of otanas at Tocoitom."
More to come, including Eska and ideally some more recent attempts. Johundhar (talk) 19:11, 20 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Partial translations