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Wikipedia talk:Wikipedia Signpost/2005-08-08/Deletion deletion

message: Well, the RFC was definately not certified properly, and there was no sane reason (IAR or no) why that should be allowed to pass.
The way you write makes it looks like I was cooperating with Ed Poor. That's not true :-/
I came to my conclusions independantly, and during this incident didn't communicate with Ed Poor at all up 'till the first time I blocked him.
Kim Bruning 00:17, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding certification, UninvitedCompany said, "Certification was provided. What, you think you can "uncertify" something once it is "certified?"" Given that statement, I can't present your side as if it were fact. I've tried to separate you out from Ed a little bit better. --Michael Snow 13:18, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  It was uncertified at the moment in time I deleted it. Kim Bruning 01:50, 10 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments by [[User:Kim Bruning]]

message: Great article. I must admit I'd always thought these Signpost objects were just made by magical elves or something.
The section 
Sidaway responded that he was choosing the most conservative option available, as the instructions say, "If in doubt, don't delete!" Also, he pointed out that when dealing with options other than deletion, such as a merge or transwiki, the administrator closing the discussion is not required to implement these steps, particularly when a consensus for them is not clear. Others pointed out that votes other than "delete" implicitly favor keeping the article in some form, even if only as a redirect.
A number of people indicated that while they might have reached different results in closing the same VfDs, the judgments being made were within Sidaway's discretion. 
Is problematic for two reasons: it doesn't fully characterize the discussion, and doesn't support the subject of this article.  Maybe something like "vigourous debate ensued (e.g. This page is 97 kilobytes long.)" would capture the bitterness passion without appearing to support any particular view?brenneman(t)(c) 00:49, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That paragraph is intended mostly to present Tony's side of the discussion. The perspective of the complainants comes in the previous paragraph. --Michael Snow 13:18, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments by [[User:Aaron Brenneman]]

message: It might be worth mentioning that long time editor, administrator, and arbitrator Ambi has left Wikipedia over this matter, (at least for now). Func( t, c ) 02:03, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Specifically, she took great offence at my characterisation of the VFD - David Gerard 12:55, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments by [[User:Func]]

message: The bits with me in look much as I recall the events - David Gerard 12:54, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments by [[User:David Gerard]]
Talk:Cassini's laws

message: Is it "Cassini's Laws" or "Cassini's laws"? The former is in the title and the latter in the body. --Mortense (talk) 16:13, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cassini's Laws" or "Cassini's laws"? 

message: Certainly there must be an older source than Beletskii 2001, maybe even an original article by Cassini himself?  CielProfond (talk) 03:39, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original
Talk:Brian Swimme

message: This article survived a Vote for Deletion. The discussion can be found here. -Splash 00:08, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Vote for Deletion
Talk:Fanspeak

message: If someone has a better tag than "evolution" for section 1, pleass fix it. PKM 00:15, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "Sources" and "Development" come to mind, but I'm really not happy with those. -WCFrancis 02:25, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Don't we need the acronym "Secret Master of Fandom" in the article somewhere? -WCFrancis 02:25, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: SMOF
Talk:HMAS Ovens

message: I was the lucky engineer given the job of demagnetising the engines of this sub, at Cockatoo Island NSW in mid- 1980s. I was not told how these got severely magnetised. A serious handicap because even while submerged an overflying marine bomber could detect the magnetic field. The engines each had a neat nameplate, "SHULTZ" and "KLINK". My assistant was Frank Koyanagi. We had lately demagnetised a 800,000 HP steam turbine at Vales Point Power Station.  Submitted by ALEC CAMERON  <Removed>
:Personal details removed. -- saberwyn 01:05, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Demagnetising
Talk:Matera

message: Right now the article calls Matera as a "town." Is it more correct to call it a "city?" Paradiso 00:18, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've returned this here again. Really, this just doesn't happen — unlike the US's Delmarva Peninsula. --Wetman 13:01, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Town or City? 

message: I am disappointed that the history section ends in 1943. Can someone who knows the facts expand on this? I am interested to know about how people lived in Matera in the 1950s-1970s and how even into the 1950s there was still malaria and high infant mortality which is quite shocking for a European country. And also when did it begin to become a tourist attraction? Can someone describe this more?— Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.231.133.146 (talk) 00:14, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History section

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
* Sensible to me. Knepflerle (talk) 19:25, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Please fix overlapping photos <----  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.84.152.131 (talk) 17:32, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pics Issue 
Talk:Bundanoon, New South Wales

message: With no reference, and Google finding nothing, this addition of "Lorenzo Fillipe IV ... well known Lando Calrissian impersonator ..." seems to me to be not appropriate. I've already removed it twice  so I'd like some other editors' opinions on the matter. Mitch Ames (talk) 11:07, 17 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lando Calrissian impersonator 
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Stargate task force

message: Hi, you may want to see this proposal for new project based on fiction. --213.155.255.148 (talk) 20:01, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New sister project proposal 

message: For those not aware, it has been proposed to delete the Ancient technology in Stargate article. The reasons stated are:
Completely un-referenced original research and synthesis. The provided references are to Wikipedia itself. No viable third-party references are forthcoming, so this piece should be removed as its subject matter is non-notable and therefore the title is not salvageable.
Personally, I think a lot of good information would be lost if this was deleted, but I am new enough and not familiar enough with wikipedia's policies for any sort of argument on the subject. For those of you who feel it should remain and are able to provide good reasoning, check out the proposal. Thanks! --Bassmadrigal (talk) 18:03, 15 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed AfD for Ancient Technology in Stargate 

message: Hi
Hopefully this is not a ghost ship!
I found some copyvio on the James SPader Article.
I have noted it on the talk page, and corrected the paragraph I found.
I will go through it at some point to check the rest, but it looks like just one (then-new) editor so far. Chaosdruid (talk) 14:08, 17 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  James Spader 

message: Hello and greetings from the maintainers of the WP 1.0 Bot! As you may or may not know, we are currently involved in an overhaul of the bot, in order to make it more modern and maintainable. As part of this process, we will be rewriting the web tool that is part of the project. You might have noticed this tool if you click through the links on the project assessment summary tables.
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thread_title:  Request for information on WP1.0 web tool
Talk:Apocalypto

message: Apocalypto is a nice film. It's a Sad, Entertaining and Adventurous.
I like Apocalypto a lot. T-doo tman (talk) 16:01, 5 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apocalypto 

message: The characters can be called here as their names are pronounced in the film.
הראש (talk) 09:45, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters names 

message: The Quote "Maya people were brutal to one another long before the arrival of Europeans and thus they deserved, in fact, they needed, rescue." appears twice and is attributed to two different people. 
Looking at the sources, it appears as if Ignacio Ochoa plagiarized from Traci Ardren and I think his quote should be removed. 92.34.8.95 (talk) 22:08, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotation
Talk:Runner (cricket)

message: In an ODI using "supersubs", is a sub allowed to act as a runner without counting as having been introduced as a "supersub"? Loganberry (Talk) 00:36, 8 August 2005 (UTC)

message: I'd like to see the wording of the article tied more closely the wording of the relevant rule. The word in the rule seems to be "injured", not "incapacitated". Someone with cramp is incapacitated, but not injured, I'd say. Also, by the way, cramp seems to me to be a wholly forseeable incident of batting energetically and scoring a large total, just like getting tired, and therefore doesn't really justify a runner in normal circumstances. If you are prepared to take the runs, you should be prepared to take the cramp.  Tsinfandel (talk) 23:14, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Wording tied to rule
Talk:Chris Chetti

message: On http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ECW_FTW_Heavyweight_Championship it says Chris Chetti is Tazz's nephew, but on the Chris Chetti page, it says he's his cousin. :S
:your right it does.... though this article is correct and i will change the FTW one --- Paulley 09:50, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Why doesn't this article have any sources?  Instead of just reverting the blanking, please add sources for the material you restore.  --Minderbinder 22:25, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: On Chris Chetti's page it says he was the ECW FTW Champion but on the titles own page it claims Taz and Sabu as the only champions. How can this be?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.125.71.49 (talk) 20:43, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question
Talk:Grip (tennis)

message: Geez, someone should have the strength of character to change all the "continental"s and "Continental"s to Continental, or vice versa.  Plus the Eastern and "Western"s, of course....
"With the racquet held so that the hitting surface is vertical to the ground"... I'm an absolute beginner at tennis, and I have to ask what "vertical to the ground" is supposed to mean. Wouldn't "parallel" or "perpendicular" be more appropriate?
:It's a very badly worded sentence.  But it's hard to describe.  What is being said, I think, is that the racquet should be held so that the strings of the racquet are perpendicular to the ground, in other words, straight up and down rather than being in a plane as if it were lying on the ground. Hayford Peirce 19:54, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 1

message: From the lead para: "There are three primary grips, the Western, the Eastern, and the Continental." Yes, fine, but what are they? The word "Western", for example, doesn't appear at all after the lead. The explanations (preferably with pictures) need to be in this article, not just in external links. 81.158.0.109 (talk) 15:59, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed (see prev. paragraphs). Does anyone have any suitable photos? Let me know, or just add them! PS: One can always join & help out at the project:tennis. Trafford09 (talk) 12:45, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Significant omissions 

message: Check the dates for the data on Bill Johnston.... Hayford Peirce (talk) 16:42, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Well spotted, have corrected it to "first two decades of the 20th century". Statement still needs a reliable source.--Wolbo (talk) 18:53, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the second date (1860) is still wrong.  It should be 1920s.  I saw old-timers at the L.A. Tennis Club in the 1950s still using the Western, but they were leftovers.  And basically, until Pancho Segura came along in the 1950s, Billy Johnston's forehand was generally considered the best one ever.  From, oh, 1915 through 1950.  Shouldn't be hard to document. Hayford Peirce (talk) 20:01, 25 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Second date now also corrected. Indeed seems to have been deliberate vandalism (edit was made end of December)--Wolbo (talk) 22:01, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism in the Evolution of the Forehand section 

message: Here we can read that the western backhand grip "is basically equivalent to the western forehand grip" and "No need to change grips if the forehand is played with an eastern grip". Is this a typo or what? Shouldn't it say that the western backhand grip "is basically equivalent to the eastern forehand grip" instead? Which is why you wouldnt need to change grips...?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.226.202.179 (talk) 20:15, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments on "The western backhand grip (Bevel #7)"
Talk:Legitimacy of Queen Victoria

message: Is there still a merge question here? It seems that the article are sufficiently different to removed the merge tag? Kerowyn 09:30, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: merge

message: How about we add the ridiculous legends of Prince Harry's supposed paternity and al Fayed's (and similar) conspiracy theories regarding the death of Diana? DBD 17:07, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Death of Diana, Princess of Wales conspiracy theories has its own article, there's no need to repeat information here. However, a link would be appropriate. I've no opinion regarding Harry. DrKay (talk) 17:13, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: To say nothing of them all being part of The Lizard Conspiracy.  David Icke says so, ergo it must be true... Mr Larrington (talk) 14:33, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  More recent myths 

message: So, seems to me this article is written in a way that somewhat suggests bias against the allegations. Now I do not have terribly strong feelings one way or the other on the subject, but it seems well within the realm of possibility, people do indeed have affairs, they do not admit them and they are not known of. Math is that that is more likely than a mutation that causes hemophilia to suddenly develop late in life, so presenting it as being less likely than the mutation is clear bias, more so when there had been accusations of infidelity. The chances of the mutation are pretty remote, and that is not really mentioned. The sources used to suggest that hemophiliacs had a low average life span are not terribly relevant on two grounds. One, they merely state that the average life span was 11 years of age before the 1960s, nothing at all to do with the Victorian age or with the aristocracy or Queen Victoria her self. Using that as a source to support this article borders on being original research itself as I cannot see a source making that argument on behalf of proving legitimacy, but rather some Wikipedian's use the source to make their own argument to prove legitimacy. The general average life span was only 35, and yet clearly a lot of people survived past 35, including most of the people in this article (Charlotte and some of William IV's children bring the average closer). Very clearly, hemophiliacs did in fact survive, most modern living hemophiliacs are the descendent of hemophiliacs from the Victorian age, that is how genetic diseases work. 216.154.62.174 (talk) 20:22, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: There are four sources in the article that link Victoria with low life expectancy for hemophiliacs and therefore low likelihood of her inheriting the disease from an affected father (Packard, McKusick, Jones and Ruston). DrKay (talk) 21:10, 15 March 2019 (UTC)

text: What other candidates are there? What is the additional research? DrKay (talk) 16:38, 22 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias
Talk:Hayashi

message: Hayashi is the name of the most prolific fantasy football team in the CDFL (Cleveland Dave Football League). Under the ownership of General Manager, Mark Trollinger, the Hayashi Silver Dragons have won the title once and earned a playoff berth four times.
Originally founded in Rio Grande, OH as the Pequino Keebleros, the Silver Dragons moved to Atlanta, GA and currently Chandler, AZ. The team draws inspiration from its Japanese roots.
The team's official website is updated regularly: http://www.geocities.com/funkytroll/2004A.html — Preceding unsigned comment added by Troll2069 (talk • contribs) 01:04, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Neo-gothic architecture

message: This is a local aspect of the Gothic Revival, without a distinct national character that would make "Neo-gothic" specifically American— which it is not, in general usage. Wouldn't it be better as a redirect, with this brief information and its list of local practitioners at Gothic Revival? --Wetman 01:16, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Who wrote that Neo-gothic architecture is an american branch? since when is this? I thought Neo-Gothic was fashionable everywhere, not just in the States. Gryffindor 16:02, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I wonder what the precise distinction is between Gothic Revival architecture in general and Neo-gothic architecture in particular. I’m from Germany, and as far as I know, in German, only the term Neogotik is used (apparently in the broader sense), so I’m a bit at a loss. — 23:30, 28 December 2005 (UTC)

message: Fort Street Presbyterian Church (Detroit, MI) 1872
St. Michaels' Church (Monroe, MI) 1910
St. Anthony's Church>Shrine (Toledo, OH 1898
Historic St. Patrick's Church* (Toledo, OH) 1899
St. Michael's Church (Fort Loramie, OH) 1899
Immaculate Conception Church** (Ottoville, OH) 1885
St. Stanislaus Church (Cleveland, OH) 1874
St. Luke's Church (Danville, OH) 1895
* Tower burned from lightning strike)
** Has two towers
Musicwriter 03:31, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some Neo-Gothic churches in America worth seeing 

message: Should be merged.
===Yes===
--Amandajm 09:21, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: --Amandajm 09:21, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Yes
Talk:Freedon Nadd

message: Was Freedon Nadd actually a Dark Lord of the Sith (DLotS)?  
Back in the 1990s there were the Tales of the Jedi comics, in which it was stated that he was a fallen Jedi who had desired to be the DLotS, but for some reason (I can't remember at this time), he couldn't become one.  That was why he wound up on Onderon, a relatively backwater planet in the grand scheme of the GFFA.
Have they (the EU writers) retconned this somewhere?  Becoming a DLotS was a big deal back then- it was such a big deal that the last Dark Lord's ghost (Marka Ragnos) had to be summoned to 'crown' Exar Kun as the newest DLotS (and at that time, Kun was the last until Vader- but I realize that's already been thrown out).
Cheers --DarthBinky 05:45, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dark Lord of the Sith
Talk:Curly (scout)

message: Shouldn't the main link for Curley go to the disambig page?  I never heard of this guy - if anything the direct link should be to Curley of the Three Stooges, IMO. Spalding 01:21, August 8, 2005 (UTC)
I am surprised by this entry. Curley consistently denied being involved in the combat phase of the battle or "escaping." Moreover, his fellow Crow Scouts denied the story.
Documentary evidence from the time of the battle and for sixty years later refuted the survival claim.
The most extensive published collection of complete interviews on the topic, and not simply extracted fragments presented as evidence, exists in Col. W.A Graham's The Custer Myth (Harrisburg, PA: Bonanza Books, 1953) in Chapter 3, "The Crows," pp. 7-25.
J.K. Moran
This is an absolutely attrocious interpretation of the name Curley and does this website absolutely no favours and aught be removed immediatetly! Curley is a 3,000 year old Irish name with the Gealic spelling Mac Thoirdealbhaigh. Originally from the counties of Roscommon and Galway, the name translates into English as "the son of the dark haired hero"...this is just another example of stupid Americanisms trying to claim history for their own....grow up!!!
David Curley
Ireland  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.160.101 (talk) 03:30, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Topics
Talk:Refael Reuvain Grozovsky

message: Until I modified this article, it listed 1888 as Reb Reuvain's birth year, however, the link to a biography of him in the Jewish Observer says he was born in 1896, as does the Torah Vodaath banquet book from this year, so I have changed the year to 1896. If anyone has any problems with that, speak up. --רח"ק | Talk 05:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year of Birth 

message: reb reuvain grozovsky was actually born on (hebrew date)יא כסלו תרמז which is 1886.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.138.9.40 (talk) 19:33, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  reb reuvain grozovsky