Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Torrent Project/Archive 4

message: I think its possible to actually make the ed2k link a link that will open up in eDonkey2000 or eMule when clicked, im gonna try. Nominaladversary 18:44, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  random ed2k stuff 

message: The wpcd.zip and .rar aren't doing too well...but the .iso is great. Anyone have an idea. Nominaladversary 12:03, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Difficult to compare, but the iso was the cleanest, and most recent implementation. The rar was clean but far fewer trackers than the iso.  I am aware of only one tracker (seedleach) for the rar.  The iso has that, plus phogotorrents, torrentbox, and the pirate bay.  The zip seems weaker than the rar, could could be a combination of age, turbulent implementation of torrent.  The zip and rar seem weaker than iso possibly because the iso format is considered by some to be more trustworthy than zip or rar. On eMule, the opposite relationship shows up, with demand being zip>rar>iso. Here the larger iso file size/download time appears to have more effect on P2P demand than in a torrent environment.  My US$0.02 worth. -- Paleorthid 20:30, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wooh, back from vacation. Anyway, there isn't much news or anything new going on. If anyone feels like it throw the files on limewire. We can't do anything about the status about any of the torrents, if people want to seed, they'll seed. All the torrents work, however in order for our goal to be reached (basically have users download the file this way...it should be faster), we'll need a lot more seeders. If you just look at OpenOffice, their releases are torrent based and have 50 seeders on standby to upload. I should be able to help out with the torrent uploading and edonkey uploading in the near future. Nominaladversary 22:24, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not doing too well 

message: ...if I am correct, is to distribute wikipedia over bittorrent? Is that individual articles, or everything on wikipedia? Whatever it is, it sounds like a good idea. Where do I sign up? Ultra Loser 02:25, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is either specific collections of articles or, in the case of the TomeWriter file type - potentially the whole of wikipedia without the illus. Obviously, our original focus is to distribute Version 1.0. This Torrent project is aimed at distribution versus preparation. We need to build a core group of seeders in anticipation of the release of versions 0.5, 1.0, test versions and other versions yet-to-be-designated. (Version 0.7 anyone?) Sign up here: we can definitely use your help. -- Paleorthid 16:52, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I second that. Our number 1 focus is bittorrent distribution, but we need more demand, only then can we increase our supply. I'm going to try to provide two sources for each file on bittorrent, and I wil eventually have to drop one source, but be able ot go full time 24/7 ed2k distribution. We need help!! 72.68.63.9 03:23, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Sorry that was me up there ^ Nominaladversary 21:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The aim of the project... 

message: Folks, I am putting together some tools at User:Wikiwizzy/CDTools for assembling a CD. I have a problem with pictures - my connection here in South Africa is not even close to what is required to get the picture dump. Does anyone here have the full dump on a Linux/Unix machine ? At Wikipedia Talk:Version_1.0_Editorial_Team I am asking for help on another 18529 images - or rather, thumbnailed versions of them, that will probably run to about 400Meg - manageable for me. If I were to send you a simple shell script, could someone run it, and send me the resulting tarball ? Wizzy…☎ 09:56, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm, well I have some sort of idea what you're talking. I know this guy, I'll get back to you in a day or two. Nominaladversary 01:31, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I have no idea how to run a script on my Linux machine. Um there are a lot of things I still can't do on linux. However, I must say a picture dump compressed in tarball of all the images will be more than 400mb, it just seems like it would be over. I'm sure there is someone who can help you. But if you want, I could try, somehow using the script, so email me at nominaladversary_AT_gmail.com . Besides that, just post at forums. Nominaladversary 21:38, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not all the pictures I want - just those from User:BozMo/wpcd2, and they will all be thumbnailed. Wizzy…☎ 07:32, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Running a script on linux is easy. You run chmod a+x name_of_script then ./name_of_script. I just don't have the picture dump, so I can't do it. Ultra-Loser Talk / Contributions 00:41, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wikiwizzy, i never got the script? Um...I'm confused. Nominaladversary 23:30, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I have a linux server (running ubuntu) that I could perhaps get you an SSH acocount for, and you could use it to get the dump if you wish. Let me know if this is worth it and I'll get an account set up for you. 48v 23:45, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have a linux server that is being used to run scripts on WP dumps, where you could run your own scripts as well (and find others to work with); see also Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikidemia/Quant.  Let me know -- +sj + 02:10, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: I went through my personal seeder/leacher stats from μTorrent and see that I passed along the equivalent of 70 copies of the 2006 Wikipedia CD selection in its various forms (zip:7-rar:13-iso:50).  I probably contributed another 20 copies using eMule (ed2k and Kad Network).  I figure another 2 participants did a similar volume.  Multiply that by another 2 to 20, my gut feeling based on the swarm size I was looking at through my knothole, and I estimate between  540 and 5,400 uploads sparked by this project in a period of weeks. If we knew then what we know now, we could have multiplied that spread by another 5-10X.  This compares to 27,000 downloads times xx copies (!) of the wpcd.zip file directly from the originating site over a period of months. Admittedly that is a pretty loose and simplistic metric to apply to what we did, but it is clearly encouraging at many levels. -- revised Paleorthid 14:59, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If anyone wanted to know, the avg speed on emule is 120 kbps for the wpcd.zip. However, there is no .rar or .iso support of the file on the network. Its alright, zip is more common. Good job you guys. Nominaladversary 02:46, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project impact assessment 

message: Wikiwizzy has an ftp link to a Palm version of 2006 Wikipedia CD Selection.  WikiWizzy is the creator (is that the right term?) and is OK with the project distributing it.  I'll note my progress on an active project page. - Paleorthid 16:35, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Palm version of 2006 Wikipedia CD Selection 

message: Um, I think .rar version of the wpcd has died, or is close to death. I can repack the zip version using winrar and put it up on emule. I can't use azureus right now, so yeah. I'm gonna try to put the wpcd.rar somewhere on the web to download and then seed (not leech then download), so you can use your browser to download, you get the idea. Nominaladversary 03:10, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I take half of that back, its dead on the torrent network, not emule. Nominaladversary 03:19, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment 

message: I've put the wpcd.zip file up on bittorrent.com - http://www.bittorrent.com/users/jpettitt/torrents/779c3b64448f0b438a80cad8d202cec84f4e0bf5/  the .torrent has the bittorrent http extension s othat it will fallback to the sosmedia eb site if there are no seeds (if your client supports http seeds).  I also seeded it on seeder03.bittorrent.com which has a gigabit connection so there should be n o problem downloading it. Trapper 07:29, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added your bittorrent link to the list of sources for wpcd.zip torrents. Could you explain a little bit about the "fallback to the SOS media site if no seeds" - that is a new feature to me. -- Paleorthid 20:22, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Found my answer in Wikipedia: BitTorrent#Web_seeding_.28unofficial_feature.29 -- Paleorthid 20:20, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

text: This TorrentFreak post highlights the above torrent.  Much appreciated, and has resulted in a big jump in the swarm size. But note that the blog post states "The CD is currently at release 1.0". This is similar to what JPettitt/Trapper has posted at BitTorrent.com. This is due to the ambiguous information we had posted on this Project site. My apologies for not dealing with it sooner. I have posted a comment to the TorrentFreak post. -- 20:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, sweet, we got in the press! The story was also dugg. Ultra-Loser [  T  ] [  C  ]   02:32, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Seed/Tracker

message: The story on dugg is generating feedback. There is much support for a DVD-sized product and one person comments on the torrent dl speed:
*"a dvd iso of the english version would be very nice...."
**Daveydweeb replies that a DVD-sized volume is a much larger task than a CD-sized volume, invites folks: "If you want a DVD, why not help them out?"
*"that would be nice to have at my school. My frustration would no longer be with the slow internet connection, but with the shitty processors. Woohoo!"
*"wow on the download speed, 1.1MB/s from one seed behind University firewall!"
::Trapper said it was going to be fast. --  Paleorthid 21:15, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, when I checked back here today, I actually said Holy ****, in a very good, surprised manner. Everything thats been going on is amazing. All of the news is just great; the entire thing is amazing. Thanks. It's all very very awesome. 'Good job' I suppose but it doesn't quite cover it. Amazing job.Nominaladversary 00:46, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: you're welcome - We've turned on the public interface to publishing on the bittorrent.com site so anybody can sign up for an account, feed it a url and the site will generate a torrent from the file at that url - feel free to add future revisions of the project. Trapper 17:05, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dugg story

message: I'm not sure if this is happening to other people, but, when I try to seed wpcd.rar, it allocates and then...doesn't seed. It gets to a certain percentage and then leeches itself. Its as if the .rar version i have is different than the one the torrent wants. Of course I checked if the .rar file was corrupt--it wasn't. We don't have any seeders for the .rar file, just around 6 leechers. Is anyone else having the same problem(s)? Another note: After the failure of seeding, I repacked the zip version of wpcd. I tried seeding-- same error --. I repacked it using winzip and winrar, on normal compression. The file size is the same as the torrent suggests. If anyone can seed it, please post. If it indeed doesn't work anymore, we can just repack and release the torrent, unless anyone else has a better idea? Nominaladversary 01:26, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Problem Fixed. I updated my winzip and winrar. Repacked, and renamed. Now I am uploading full time. I will try to post the actual file on the web somewhere. Nominaladversary 01:38, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

text: One last update--now super seeding. And will go to normal seeding once there is one more seeder. Also, those who are using the ED2K network to help, change your wpcd.rar file to '2006 Wikipedia CD Selection', you can leave off the '.rar' extension. Same goes for anyone else having the torrent problems for this file. Nominaladversary 01:49, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I lied, another update. The tracker hates me: 'http://seedleech.com/announce.php'. I guess I could use the internal tracker, but that would require the leecher(s) to add the url: 'http://72.68.33.82:6969/announce'. I have the same person as before swarmed, but...not connecting. I'm leaving Azureus on as well as super-seeding. Will report back with a file d/l link...it may be split. Nominaladversary 03:18, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a different (works!) rar.torrent from here from playing around last August. I've been seeding it and it's been increasingly active. I'll update our listing accordingly. -- Paleorthid 03:33, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, I'll seed using this. Nominaladversary 21:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No one wants to download. Cry[ing]. Nominaladversary 00:11, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  wpcd.rar problems