Talk:Joe Hockey

message: This page is strongly biassed - much of it appears to be election campaign material.  In particular, the CV section is copied-and-pasted directly from Joe Hockey's political web-site.
:I agree, tag added. Cheers, WikiTownsvillian 08:42, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now cleaned up the article and deleted all the campaign info, both clean up and NPOV tags removed. Thanks, WikiTownsvillian 08:49, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Part 1

message: Just popped in to revert some vandalism.  I note inthe history there seems to be some edit reversions about Hockey's Armenian connections.  I note that at http://www.missionarmenia.com/presentation_night.htm it is asserted Mr Hockey, whose father is of Armenian background, is the second Australian government minister (after the Hon. Phillip Ruddock) to have visited Armenia. During his visit in November 2005, Mr Hockey met with the Prime Minister and the Minister for Health. He also planted a memorial tree on the grounds of the Armenian Genocide Memorial in Yerevan, capital of Armenia.  I note his website has no speeches listed for November 2005 when he visited Armenia or for this presentation night in November 2006..  His maiden speech only refers to Armenia in the context of his electorate having the highest number of Armenians in the country.  However in an interview with Kerri-Anne Kennerly in June 2007 she refers to you took your father who was born in Bethlehem, Armenian, back to Palestine in 1998 - he does not contradict her and moreover the transcript is on his website  - I think therefore he could be said to be of Armenian background and it is not controvesial for him.--Golden Wattle  talk 00:17, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armenia 

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thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: Is it really necessary to mention Hockey's electorate competitor in this article? Surely more suited in Division of North Sydney?
Removed pending discussion.
- arkenstone (talk) 09:20, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mike Bailey 

message: Please keep an eye on the second image i've had to re-add, again. Intelligent Mr Toad seems to like bundling the removal of the image in other edits. Timeshift (talk) 16:04, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
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message: Hockey's "numbers" as Shadow Treasurer have been challenged.  Firstly with his figures presented at the last election (2010) being challenged as being fantasy and not adding up - furthermore he claimed that his figures were vetted which is apparently not the case.  Secondly he has more recently had a blow up on the National Press Club Luncheon on further scepticism on his figures.
Now it may be POV to claim he is a poorly performing Shadow Treasurer, but the controversies associated with his tenure as Shadow Treasurer should be mentioned, particularly as the apparent “hole” in is election promises damaged the Coalition.  It is surely not defamatory to mention that he presided over such questions over the Opposition’s budgetary figures, and that this  may lead some to question his competence in such a senior role.  To NOT mention it makes the article look more like hagiography than a truly encyclopaedic article.  After all it is not POV to say that Sir John Kerr was involved in controversy over his decision to dismiss the Whitlam government, even if you feel he was fully justified in doing so.  As it stands, the article sounds too much like a Hockey puff piece by avoiding these political slip ups.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.58.245.247 (talk) 15:01, 25 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hockey's Performance as Shadow Treasurer 

message: This article needs a discussion of Joe Hockey's Age of Entitlement speech.  Here is a first attempt - please place the following text in the article before the segment on the Future of Australian Diversity. --110.20.234.69 (talk) 22:05, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The first source is the text of Hockey's own speech, not indepenent coverage of Hockey. The second is an opinion piece. If that speech is important enough to be mentioned in the article, there must be better sources out there that provide a more neutral assessment of the speech and its significance. Huon (talk) 23:00, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age of Entitlement 

message: Please place this in the article, right at the bottom of the political career section. --110.20.234.69 (talk) 05:59, 20 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hockey's resigning 

message: Please add to this section that in June 2014, the judge partially ruled in favour of Hockey, ruling that where the headline had been seen without the article, it was defamatory, and awarded Hockey $200,000 in damages.http://www.9news.com.au/national/2015/06/30/14/42/joe-hockey-wins-200k-defamation-case-against-fairfax-media  Fairfax was ordered to pay 15% of Hockey's court costs.http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/jul/22/treasurer-for-sale-defamation-case-fairfax-must-pay-15-of-hockeys-costs
Thank you. --110.20.234.69 (talk) 00:28, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Treasurer for Sale conclusion 

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message: I added the honorific "His Excellency" when Hockey became ambassador two months ago, however this was reverted with the comment "Removed "His Excellency" - I believe in Australia this is only used for foreign ambassadors, and in the US it is not used for ambassadors at all)". I left it as there were virtually no reliable references I could find such as DFAT or State Department which referred to Hockey using the title. The title has been re-added recently so I had another look, and found that the U.S. State Department Diplomatic List Order of Precedence does in fact refer to all the ambassadors to the United States as "H. E." and the full list spells it out as His/Her Excellency (although this has the former ambassador Kim Beazley), so it appears that the U.S. does use it after all. --Canley (talk) 12:10, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  His Excellency 

message: It says that a citation is needed for the statement that the push to get Hockey into NSW State politics ended by his promotion to Shadow Treasurer as it placed him within striking distance in becoming federal leader.
I say that a citation isn't needed. Even though Hockey himself did not become leader, one has to look at history of recent past decades in 1985, 1989, 1990, 1994, 2001, 2003 and 2008 in which the Shadow Treasurer of the day became the new Opposition leader. 122.108.156.100 (talk) 01:35, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. It may have happened frequently that a shadow Treasurer has become opposition leader and the timing may match up, but it's still synthesis to infer that this was the reason for the end of the push to get Hockey into state politics, without a statement from a fellow party member or a news article confirming this reason. In the reference that is in there, Brendan Nelson states that Hockey had no interest in going into state politics, so that should be the reason published if one is to be at all, unless a better one can be found which does confirm the claim. That may be unlikely due to slippery denials being common in such situations, but that's too bad. --Canley (talk) 03:47, 11 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree for much the same reason as Canley. The article is already vague on when this "push" started; I can only assume it was sometime between December 2007 and February 2009. At least there is one source denying the "push", which in a roundabout way confirms it existed. But there is nothing to confirm that the people who wanted him to move to state politics suddenly gave up the moment he became shadow treasurer. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 04:54, 11 April 2016 (UTC)

text: I wasn't saying that it was not the case, I was saying you can't make assumptions and synthesis like that on Wikipedia without a reference, even if it is true or almost certainly true. As it happens I did find a reference in a contemporaneous Phillip Coorey article where he states that Hockey's ascension ended the pressure on Barry O'Farrell from the push to replace him, so I have included that. You're welcome. --Canley (talk) 11:08, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shadow Treasurer 

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