Talk:Jeep Wrangler

message: I added trim levels and special editions to the TJ section.74.218.82.179 (talk) 17:14, 21 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions 6-21-12 

message: i would like to know if a 1993 ax 15 tranny will interchange with a 2001 5 speed  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.253.99.250 (talk) 15:40, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  transmission 

message: Can you tow a jeep  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.124.106.199 (talk) 20:57, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  towing 

message: I just wanted to air this, since the division of the "Civilian Jeep" articles seem to split on a completely USA POV that's not univeral.
"Wrangler" designation didn't exist in canada for any Jeep product until 2006, Wrangler was a GMC trademark in canada for many years before the "Wrangler" term was stuck to jeeps Dodge/Chrysler.
So from a Canadian perspective, the First "Jeep Wrangler" was the JK, so the Division of articles from CJ to YJ/TJ/JK makes no sense to begin at YJ, and the "Wrangler" split should occur at JK. 
Even justification of the spit where it is now makes no sense..
If it's becuase of the name.. CJ-3A and CJ-7 are two different names.. yet no split..
If the split is because of the company change, then the CJ article would be split into 3.
If it is becuase of the design change.. the CJ5 and previous models have less in common than the CJ-7 and YJ which are built on the same frame/design.. so there should be several CJ articles while CJ-7/YJ would make more sense as one article TJ and JK each a separate one etc..  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.255.30.194 (talk) 14:37, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The YJ's, TJ's, and JK's are listed separate from the CJ's because Wrangler is their given name in their home market; this should be the title used as per WP:CARS/Conventions. I also hope that in the future there could be enough information posted on each generation to warrant separate articles turning this page into merely a disambiguation page similar to Honda Civic.VX1NG (talk) 16:53, 27 March 2013 (UTC)

text: To the original quandary. To help you make some sense of it look at this way. There were several companies that made "the Jeep model" thru out it's 45 year run . Willys, Kaiser, Kaiser-Jeep Corp., AMC, AMC-Jeep. These companies all produced the Jeep model. The Jeep model had 2 series it came in, a military version/series and a civilian series/version. As each version evolved with some "upgrades" over the years they changed the number. The M or CJ prefix stayed but the version number changed. And the 2 series intertwined over the years, for instance the CJ-1 was an MB pulled right off the production line. Later, the CJ-5 was used to create the M38, etc. But in all it's years of production it was always the "Jeep" model. When AMC decided to discontinue the Jeep it needed a vehicle to fill the slot for an open top 4wd. Since the new model was not a continuation of any kind they gave it a new name and a corresponding series number like all the other models had, ie: yj, ml, fc, xj, sj, etc. So as a new vehicle model the Wrangler has it's own version history, the yj, tj, and now the jk.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.95.49.94 (talk) 15:28, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrangler vs YJ/TJ 

message: I added this brief excerpt from a WSJ road test of this model:
=====Reception=====
:In a road test published in the Wall Street Journal, the newspaper reported the 2013 vehicle is "great for off road, [but] a tough ride on normal roads .... the Rubicon requires unusual attention to guide precisely. The treads on the Jeep's 32-inch monster mud tires squirm like the road is paved with snakes. Cited to "Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Is Not for the Open Road. Great for off road, the new Jeep Wrangler is a tough ride on normal roads"
Another editor reverted, commenting "The Wall Street Journal is not devoted to evaluating automobiles. They concentrate more on business topics. "
However, the WSJ does regularly evaluate automobiles, and is a RS for the topic. The revert is inappropriate. Comments? --Pete Tillman (talk) 04:43, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you Pete Tillman for adding the WSJ review of this vehicle. However, simply because a publication reviews a product does not make it notable for inclusion in an encyclopedia article. For example, Playboy has numerous articles and reviews about automobiles, but they are not RS in the automobile media. A section on "reception" should have a broad perspective and different point of view, not just curiously extracted quotes such as "like the road is paved with snakes". Moreover, is the review concerning the vehicle, or the particular tires that were on the test vehicle? That is why I had removed this questionable evaluation of an automobile. CZmarlin (talk) 02:16, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: If the WSJ bit was part of a batch of reviews, I would have no problem with it being added.  Just on the basis of contrast.  ex: Comparing a review from WSJ, to a review from C & D.  However, as it was added, it was inappropriate. --Dana60Cummins (talk) 16:17, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  CZmarlin, there is already positive reception from Business Week, and Forbes, which have no more merit in that Automotive sector then the Wall Street Journal. "Section on "reception" should have a broad perspective and different point of view", however this is the complete opposite of how the "reception" section is conveyed, it's completely slanted towards positive. The article should not be an advertisement for Jeep, and should be written in a Neutral Point of View as is Wikipedia policy.Swingcar (talk) 23:52, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:   10th Anniversary Rubicon review at WSJ 

message: :In a road test published in the Wall Street Journal, the newspaper reported the 2013 vehicle is "great for off road, [but] a tough ride on normal roads .... the Rubicon requires unusual attention to guide precisely. The treads on the Jeep's 32-inch monster mud tires squirm like the road is paved with snakes. Cited to "Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Rubicon Is Not for the Open Road. Great for off road, the new Jeep Wrangler is a tough ride on normal roads"
Another editor reverted, commenting "The Wall Street Journal is not devoted to evaluating automobiles. They concentrate more on business topics. "
However, the WSJ does regularly evaluate automobiles, and is a RS for the topic. The revert is inappropriate. Comments? --Pete Tillman (talk) 04:43, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you Pete Tillman for adding the WSJ review of this vehicle. However, simply because a publication reviews a product does not make it notable for inclusion in an encyclopedia article. For example, Playboy has numerous articles and reviews about automobiles, but they are not RS in the automobile media. A section on "reception" should have a broad perspective and different point of view, not just curiously extracted quotes such as "like the road is paved with snakes". Moreover, is the review concerning the vehicle, or the particular tires that were on the test vehicle? That is why I had removed this questionable evaluation of an automobile. CZmarlin (talk) 02:16, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: If the WSJ bit was part of a batch of reviews, I would have no problem with it being added.  Just on the basis of contrast.  ex: Comparing a review from WSJ, to a review from C & D.  However, as it was added, it was inappropriate. --Dana60Cummins (talk) 16:17, 2 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  CZmarlin, there is already positive reception from Business Week, and Forbes, which have no more merit in that Automotive sector then the Wall Street Journal. "Section on "reception" should have a broad perspective and different point of view", however this is the complete opposite of how the "reception" section is conveyed, it's completely slanted towards positive. The article should not be an advertisement for Jeep, and should be written in a Neutral Point of View as is Wikipedia policy.Swingcar (talk) 23:52, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Reception

message: I need this for a recon permit in Hawaii how do I get a duplicate or a spec sheet  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.91.92.237 (talk) 08:00, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gvw door jamb labels on a 90 yj 

message: The article states that the YJ and TJ were manufactured in Iran from 1989 to 2006, presumably by Pars Khodro. How did this come about? The article on Pars Khodro suggests that the company's official involvement with GM ceased in 1981, for obvious reasons, but the YJ and TJ were post-revolution models. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 13:22, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iran 

message: "The newer Wrangler was constructed with a grille which angled out toward the top, and then continued in a straight line from the midway point, toward the bottom. "
I find this confusing, since "toward the top", suggests a starting position heading upward, but "and then continued down" makes no sense.
I believe the imaginary trajectory being followed starts at the top, the grille angles out FROM the top, and then heads straight down toward the bottom once the midpoint is reached.
Even if this is not what is meant, the statement needs to be more clear, since I doubt people could reliably reconstruct the intended shape from the current phrasing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.212.193.220 (talk) 22:59, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  confusing grille statement 

message: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeep_Wrangler#JL_.282018.29 
Seriously, what is this? "Videos are available on Youtube"?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.25.220.205 (talk) 17:04, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrangler JL 

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message: Is the photo captioned "2008 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited Sahara" a fake?
The vehicle seems to lack a front left wheel, and the front right appears to be suspended in air. I wonder, too, how the sunlit front bumper escaped the large shadow in the lower right.
If my suspicion is correct, the photo should be discarded, or at least be captioned "Publicity image". Mdmi (talk) 17:45, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fake photo? 

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message: Example: "In early 2021 Jeep created a unique battery electric vehicle (BEV) that removes nothing from the Wrangler driving experience while toying with future propulsion ideas. It allows the very same aftermarket parts that bolt to a regular Wrangler to be used on the Magneto"
Some rewording should probably be done and objective information used. 2A02:8308:5006:5C00:39DC:1273:AFB8:3C7A (talk) 14:59, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a bit worse as it contains copyvio from Motor Trend . Fixed. spryde | talk 21:55, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parts of the article sound like marketing verbiage