Talk:San Juan, Puerto Rico/Archive 1

message: I removed the reference to San Juan being the oldest city in the United States for a couple of reasons. 
1. San Juan is not the oldest city even if it is considered part of the United States, several cities in Hawaii have been continually inhabtied long before San Juan was founded  - that is also why St. Augustine is specfically called (in the Wiki article as well) the oldest European city in the United States. So San Juan is definently not the oldest city in the US or its territories.
2. Also Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States and is described as such in the Wiki article Puerto Rico but is not actually part of the US, i.e the 50 states and the District of Columbia.
- I changed the sentence to "San Juan was founded ..... and is the oldest city on Puerto Rico.
--Nikostar 16:18, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  San Juan is not the oldest city in the United States. 

message: Firstly, Hawaii was discovered by Captain Cook in 1778, yes, there were indigenous groups established on Hawaii before that, but as for cities founded on Hawaii, only those after 1778 count.  Secondly, St. Augustine is the oldest Europeon city in the continental United States.  San Juan is the oldest City under the United States umbrella, which includes States and territories.  Thirdly, Puerto Rico is a Semi-Autonomous state or Territory of the United States and would be considered a PART of the United States.
:* Puerto Rico is not consider part of the united states. It is a territory wich belongs but is not part of the United States.Nnfolz 05:14, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  San Juan IS the oldest European City in the United States 

message: :The following discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.  
I'm going to put this GA on hold until the following have concerns have been addressed, most of them being just wording problems:
;Lead
*"San Juan (IPA: [saŋ hwaŋ]), named after Saint John the Baptist (Spanish: San Juan Bautista) is the capital and largest city of Puerto Rico. The latest census estimates place the city's population at 433,733, making it the 42nd-largest city under the jurisdiction of the United States." - Shouldn't there be a comma somewhere here? Because if we remove the brackets and their contents it would read: "San Juan, named after Saint John the Baptist is the capital and largest city of Puerto Rico..." so shouldn't it read "San Juan, named after Saint John the Baptist, is the capital and largest city of Puerto Rico..."? Done
*"San Juan was founded by Spanish colonists in 1521" - Shouldn't 1521 be wikilinked? -Done
*"Today San Juan serves as Puerto Rico's most important seaport" - A bit of a POV here - Try and say "according to X, San Juan serves as Puetro Rico's most important seaport" or you could say "[...] most important sea port, as..." -Tweaked line a little, please review it to see if it's still POV in your opinion
*Reads: "The city of San Juan was called Puerto Rico meaning "rich port", and the entire island was called San Juan. The capital and the island's names were later accidentally switched." No citation; I'm not sure if the above quotation is true.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.250.212.239 (talk) 03:27, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Detailed and well done review, I took the liberty of adding a few checkmarks to the points I have already attended and my comments are written in bold to avoid confusion, thanks for reviewing again. -凶 17:37, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Straightforward, clear, and concise. We appreciate your time. - Mtmelendez (Talk|UB|Home) 21:11, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for seeing to my concerns, I will now grant this article good article status. One thing you could do for future reference is rate this GA review, see my sig. --Phill talk Edits Review this GA review! 08:43, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA review (2007)

message: This a GA but it would be nice if a lot of more info and details of the city be added.The City is rich in content why not add more details about its economy,government or anything else?EdwinCasadoBaez 05:52, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Good Article

message: Does anyone happen to know (or have a reference that has) the Köppen climate classification for San Juan? I believe it's Af, but a proper reference would be great. CloudNine 14:22, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Köppen climate classification code? (climate) 

message: That "subsidizez" word shouldn't be there,since the great majority of the Metro systems in the World are actually subsidized,even the NYC Subway.--BoricuaPR 19:40, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: what are you suggesting?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.139.241.87 (talk) 06:15, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  . The “subsidized” Tren Urbano  

message: The article states that SJ is the island's (sic) manufacturing center. It also states that rum is produced in SJ.  Does anyone have any evidence of that.  Last time I checked, Bacardi's plant was in Cataño and most of the SJ Metro Area's manufacturing activity is actually located in Carolina, Bayamón, Cataño and Trujillo Alto, not actually in San Juan.Pr4ever (talk) 04:30, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manufacturing Center? 

message: I think it's pretty big for such a conference to be held in a small city like San Juan, should it be added to the article somewhere?
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G8#Annual_summit  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.206.154.2 (talk) 00:18, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Small city? San Juan is one of the largest cities in the Caribbean, you should take some time to actually read the article... - Caribbean~H.Q. 02:53, 16 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Yeah, compare it to other cities that have held the G8 summit like London, Tokyo, Munich, Toronto, Moscow... When I said small I meant compared to them. I live in Puerto Rico next to San Juan and I know the city's size... >_>  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.243.71.248 (talk) 18:05, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyway, city size isn't exactly relevant to the organization of these summits, economic stability and location might be, next year's summit will take place in La Maddalena, which is actually smaller than San Juan (especially in terms of population and economy) and nowhere near being considered a "big city". - Caribbean~H.Q. 21:58, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  San Juan was the location of the 2nd annual G8 summit  

message: I don't believe that this is pronounced sang-hwang... Ranma9617 (talk) 03:30, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect IPA? 

message: San Juan's baseball clubs are not listed, despite being discussed in above paragraph.98.246.115.71 (talk) 19:34, 28 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Pro Sports Teams Box

message: Obviously, it makes no sense, seeing as how Dubai and Caracas picked San Juan as a sister city, so there's no reason to place all sister cities as Citations. Why? 'Cause the older link is defective and is out of date. JMBZ-12 (talk) 23:11, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The citations are needed because this is not WP:CK. If there is 1 single citation that includes all of SJ's sister cities that would be ideal. My name is Mercy11 (talk) 20:04, 16 December 2010 (UTC)

text: Sadly, since I cannot find the source for sister cities of San Juan that was picked by Dubai and Caracas, I will have to undo them back to it's original place. JMBZ-12 (talk) 19:51, 16 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Cititations on San Juan's sister cities? 

message: Someone has taken it upon himself to take San Juan, the oldest non-Native American founded city in the US out of the country.  If the unidentified contributor wants to debate this issue, he should do so here and not through non-factually-baed edits. Pr4ever (talk) 15:53, 7 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the history, it was/is not only unidentified contributors making this change.  This (along with vandalism) was a contributing factor in applying full protection today.  —MJCdetroit (yak) 17:42, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Country 

message: After reviewing the history page of the article, I am changing the protection to semi-protected.  I am doing this with a cautionary note to the established editors of this page:  Be careful when reverting apparent vandalism that you also do not revert factual good faith based edits that are in between the suspect edits.  Also, Puerto Rico is a territory of the United States of America and not an sovereign country; this an indisputable fact, yet recently is constantly being changed on this page (, , , , , , , ).  The semi-protection should help with the i.p. vandals but the factually-based content and consistency of the article must be guarded by you, the established editors of this article!  We can reevaluate the protection level in the future if needed.  Buenas Suerte!  —MJCdetroit (yak) 14:06, 12 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Protection = semi 

message: The article notes the eventual swap of names between the original name of the island, San Juan, and that of the capital, Puerto Rico. It states, however, that this change was established by the mid-18th century. I have to question this. I have seen a French map dating from the 1780's which labeled the city as Puerto Rico (as well as the island!). Additionally, I have seen an original document dated 1898 from the Catholic bishop of the island, who listed his title as "Bishop of Puerto Rico." In Catholic usage, a bishop's title is tied to a city, not a state or region, so clearly formal usage does not reflect such a swap until after the United States invasion. How can this reality be introduced to the article?Daniel the Monk (talk) 23:28, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's in a Name? 

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thread_title: File:Montage San Juan.JPG Nominated for Deletion

message: In the first paragraph, 46nd should say 46th. It used to be 42nd before the new census, and someone changed the number without changing the suffix.
I can't change it because the article is semi-protected.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.7.238.139 (talk) 21:06, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  46nd should be 46th 

message: Regarding Santa María Madgalena de Pazzis cemetery, 'Madgalena' should be 'Magdalena' and linked to the page about that cemetery.
Bogdan Migulski 19:32, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Done — Bility (talk) 20:27, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Migulski, 12 September 2011 

message: I think it's better to add a picture of the city's skyline in the montage, like the buildings in la Milla de Oro, Hato Rey or inCondado or maybe even both in the same picture. San Juan is known as the "Capital of the Caribbean", so it should have a better/ more interesting picture of the skyline of the city.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Csbuser (talk • contribs) 22:53, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  San Juan's Photo Montage 

message: Section "Notable people from San Juan" has the text "Due to space limitations it is almost impossible to list all of the people of San Juan who have distinguished themselves, therefore a category has been created to this effect: See also: Category:People from San Juan, Puerto Rico"
However, the "See also" section just after it has this article link: List of people from San Juan, Puerto Rico. So, there is also a list of them. Should it be just moved a bit up or what? 85.217.32.182 (talk) 01:22, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  notable people 

message: In Januray 14 of 2013, Mr.Santini has closing his time in the office of Mayor Of San Juan. Please remove the name of Jorge Santini and add the name of the Hon. Carmen Yulin Cruz, Current Mayor of the Puertorrican Capital City.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.45.67.250 (talk) 03:48, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Santini is a Ex-Mayor 

message: San Juan population is 442,447
161.253.50.148 (talk) 04:03, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 04:21, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2015 

message: What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 14:09, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Timeline of San Juan, Puerto Rico]] 

message: It is undoubtful that Santo Domingo was founded in the 1490s. But, Havana, Cuba, was founded in 1519, so it appears to be older than San Juan, Puerto Rico, which was founded in 1521. Then San Juan is not the second oldest capital city, but the third or perhaps even the fourth-oldest capital city, as Mexico City was (re)founded in 1521 over the ruins of Tenochtitlan (founded by the Aztecs in 1325, and destroyed by the Spaniards in 1521).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 148.101.44.46 (talk) 00:46, 6 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  San Juan: "second oldest capital city in the Americas"?  

message: Change
subdivision_type = Country
subdivision_name = 
subdivision_type1 = Territory
subdivision_name1 = 
to
subdivision_type = Country
subdivision_name = United States
subdivision_type1 = Territory
subdivision_name1 = Puerto Rico
MOS:INFOBOXFLAG
WP:INFOBOXFLAG
82.30.110.20 (talk) 05:22, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: ~ Abelmoschus Esculentus (talk to me) 07:38, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 4 August 2018 

message: I recommend including a 'crime' section, as San Juan is within the top 50 cities with the highest murder rate in the world - that's notable. 148.64.28.93 (talk) 10:54, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crime section?