Talk:Jainism/Archive 1

message: The article, by the aid of wiki's diligent contributors, is making significant progress. Considering the length, perhaps the time has arrived for us arrange the content into sections using sub-headers. Early History, Jain Society, Mahavira, etc. It may provide as encouragement and direct us to what needs to be further written about. Suprisingly, much is written online about the founder and last Jaina, Mahavira. Usedbook 21:42 3 Jun 2003 (UTC)
: Have moved Navkar Mantra to a new page. Need more info. An audio version with correct pronounciation will also help. Chirags 00:39, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Making progress 

message: Which is proper: "Jain teachings" or "Jainist teachings" ? LirQ
*My textbooks use Jain as an adjective, so "Jain teachings." --Peter Kirby 20:39, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Usage question 

message: :In India, Jains—much like Jews in the United States—are over proportionately represented in positions of economic and political power. I've removed the phrase "much like Jews in the United States". Even if the statement about Jews in the US is true, it has no place in an article about Jainism.
the global diamond market is dominated by Jain-owned corporations. This claim, and the claim that Jainas are overrepresented in positions of power, are each potentially racist. They therefore require serious and substantial reference before being reinstated. Given the fact of De Beers, I am sceptical that such empirical evidence can be found for the diamond claim. I have therefore removed it. Adhib 15:52, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Jainas depicted as sinister overlords

message: As part of its stance on non-violence, Jainism goes beyond vegetarianism in that the Jain diet also excludes most root vegetables and certain other foods believed to be unnecessarily injurious.
Could someone explain this?  Why is avoiding root vegetables in particular part of a non-violent stance? Josh Cherry 02:06, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Because in eating the root you kill the plant. Jains eat only trimmings and fruits, etc.. which allows the plant to continue living. Sam [Spade] 04:27, 27 Jul 2004 (UTC)

text: The article, Vegetable Rights could use some cleanup and also benefit from your knowledge on this subject.  Please take a look at it when you have time.  --Viriditas 23:03, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Root vegetables

message: Any chance we can get someone to add the Jaina Sutras to Wikisource: Religious texts? --Viriditas 04:19, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikisource:Religious texts 

message: The following isn't very clear: "Jains have been an important presence in Indian culture, contributing to Indian philosophy, art, architecture (a Jain temple or derasar), the very famous Jain temple Dilwara at mount Abu that stands as one of the most glowing examples of architecture, and the Bhagwan Adinath derasar built in the small town of Vataman being a recently constructed example. sciences and last but not least the politics of Mohandas Gandhi which led to Indian independence."  Could someone clean that up so that it makes more sense?  I'm not sure where it's supposed to be headed...  Dismas 23:56, 1 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up needed 

message: * Halló! Jain Prakrit referes to Jainism but not vice versa. Regards Gangleri | [ Th] | T 20:10, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Jain Prakrit]] 

message: Added a quote from a World Religions textbook by two scholars stating "Jainism was established in its historic form by Vardhamana, called Mahavira..." They acknowledge the existence of earlier philosophers upon whom Mahavira based and developed teachings. --Peter Kirby 09:23, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added quote from textbook 

message: Lengthy excerpts from other copyrighted works seem to defeat the purpose of Wikipedia.  Copyrighted texts cannot be edited or refined by users.  
Also, the two quoted texts are generally redundant with other material in the article.  Please excercise discretion and try to shorten them.
* I have shortened them. --Peter Kirby 00:56, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  RE: Added quote from textbook 

message: On 8 September, Rcscwc tacked a huge amount of new material onto the very end of the article. At a glance, it looks like there's a considerable amount of usable material, but an undetermined amount of it is either redundant or needs to be cleaned-up and merged-in properly. I moved the bulk of this user's addition to the Beliefs and practices section, added section headers, and added a  template, but obviously there's still a lot to be done here. — Ringbang 22:51, 9 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent supplement by Rcscwc 

message: Language of this article especially the Jain Ethics sections is unencyclopedic. 220.224.48.119 10:29, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Putting up a clean up tag 

message: The article alludes to Jains' status in society. Do all Jains come from a single ethnic group? (Similar to Judaism) Or something different? Ashmoo 04:34, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jainism / Ethnicity 

message: I think the intro needs a bit of work.  Looking at the Islam, Hinduism, Christianity & Buddhism pages, I think the intro should focus more on the number and location of its adherents, the time and place of its origin and how it fits in with other religions. Specific beliefs of the religion should be saved for later sections. 
I'll wait a few days for comment before overhauling the intro. I mean no disrespect but feel the intro should be brought into line with the other major religion entries. Ashmoo 02:43, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The introduction 

message: :This is a legend I've seen several times being espoused among Hindutva nationalists and the like: that their propaganda has succeeded in, as you call it, "undermining" the many decades of serious scientific work by linguists and historians that support the invasion theory. However the Aryan Invasion theory has most certainly not been "undermined". In reality no serious scholars continue to support anything other than a non-Indian origin for Aryan language and religion. Because of this lack of support for what is essentially a fringe theory, having this one page supporting a revisionist version of history is not only innacurate and POV, it's also out of line with the rest of the wikipedia, which by default seems to take the neutral mainstream historical community's view on the invasion.  --86.135.87.145 01:50, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re:

message: Brisvegas and I have been creating portals for various significant religions, with your religion being one of the portals. The portals still need work, but most of the groundwork has been done. We need to find people who would like to take responsibility for their faith's portal. Brisvega looks after the Christianity portal, and I look after the Islam portal. You can find your religion's portal by looking at the Religion & Spirituality section on the portal template at Template:Portals. I've been notified that your faith's portal can possibly be deleted if no one looks after the portal. --JuanMuslim  1m 17:52, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New portal on religion 

message: need a logo to be used on stubs related to Jainism. Chirag 23:42, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need a logo for jain stubs 

message: Hi,
I think we need to have following:
1. One page for every tirthankar. Also need to define a format for the page: Such as:
Birth name, Date (Indian Tithi), Lanchhan, Birth City, Nirvan Date, Nirvan City. Approximate age (in terms of Jain measures such as Sagaropam)
2. Need to define, a name format in which names of tirthankara's are written. E.g. Should it be Lord Rishabh, or Rishab Dev? Should it be Lord Mahavir or Mahavir Swami?
Any Ideas
Chirag 22:15, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pages for Tirthankars 

message: Hey guys nice job so far.  I would strongly suggest using inline citations as that will be required to make this a featured article. --Blacksun 00:14, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inline references 

message: Wow it is kindav amusing reading the arguments on this page.  Fortunately, in real life, Hindus and Jains rarely fight like this.  Not to mention, they tend to go to each others pilgramage too.  I have gone to palitana like ten times and I am Hindu.  I wish this article lots of success and hope it gets to FA quality soon. --Blacksun 17:20, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: lot of fighting here

message: Why is this note on the Jain page?
The page using Devangari (Hindi) script, not Gurumukhi used in the warning in the rectangle. I have never seen the the type of display error suggested by it. The warning notice appears to be promoting the Gurumukhi script.
--ISKapoor 23:15, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The warning is used on many many different script pages and does not apply only to Gurmukhi.  The picture is merely representative of complex text rendering.  If you can think of a better representative image, please post your ideas on the template talk page.  Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 00:19, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The 'indic text" warning? 

message: Does any body know about 'Siri Bhuvalaya'.  Following is a quote mentioned in a website : http://www.jainheritagecentres.com/jainavoice/jainavoice13.htm. 
Siribhuvalaya is a very interesting classic work found in Jaina literature. It is composed in arithmetic language. It was written by Kumudhendu who has called it "Sarvabhasahamayi Karnataka Kavya" and also "Vishwakavya". The exact period of the poet is unknown and is arduous to decide about the same. However the prosody and the language of the work connote to believe that the author Kumudendu  lived in the 16th century in a village called Yelavalli along with his 1500 disciples situated amidst Nandidurga near Chickaballapur
Thanks in advance Subramanya 08:32, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: SIRI BHUVALAYA

message: Sanmatti Prakaran, Author Acharya siddhasen Divakar. Last published by Navjeevan Trust Gujarat.  Separate article or some reference in Jainism is necessary as this is only the first Book available on Anekantvad or Syadvad.  vkvora 05:44, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sanmatti Prakaran