Talk:The Happiness Patrol

message: Is there a way to mention the alleged gay subtext of this story in the Notes without sounding crass or starting a flame war? While it's only one interpretation, I'd argue that interpretation is notable and as relevant as the mention of Thatcher. Or am I asking for trouble? :-) --Whouk (talk) 12:36, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, yes you are. :) That being said, if you can find a cite in any of the more reliable reference works on it... --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 12:59, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There are only a couple flamers who bother our Doctor Who articles, we should be able to see them off ... ;) Tim! (talk) 13:10, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The only reference work on hand that even says that there's a gay subtext is The Discontinuity Guide, but I think it's making much of nothing. The example they cite - that of the Fondant Surprise victim wearing a pink triangle, turns out to be a mistake (he isn't) . The only possibly gay moment is when Helen-A's husband runs off with Gilbert at the end, but I think that most of the perception here is down to the gender-reversal and the overabundance of pink, which IMO is stereotyping of the most painful degree. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 13:27, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There's Matt Jones's article on the subject, which Paul Cornell reproduced in Virgin Publishing's Licence Denied book, if anybody has a copy of that to hand. My copy's back in Sussex, I'm afraid, so I can't help. Angmering 14:00, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll see if I can dig a copy out. There are a few bits of dialogue too: Susie Q's "I am what I am" speech and Helen A' "outing with the Happiness Patrol" joke (though maybe best not to metion "You like guns, don't you?" ;-). It's lots of little things which on their own don't mean much but together suggest a subtext. --Whouk (talk) 16:45, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subtext 

message: Any conection between the rat-dog creature and the villans in The Christmas Invasion? 84.71.62.50 18:54, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Simple answer - none whatsoever :-) —Whouk (talk) 23:13, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the rat-dog creature is called a "Stigorax," not a "Sycorax" anyway! Blaine Coughlan (talk) 22:31, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sycorax 

message: This reminds me of Paranoia, to be honest. Wierd. 203.143.248.114 08:55, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paranoia 

message: (I'd have put this above but the format is already indented enough).
Dudes.
The story is about a planet where everyine is forced to be HAPPY AND CHEERFULL all the time on the pain of being shot to death in a hail of gunfire. There is no gay subtext. There is happy subtext. 
It's like saying 'The movie Titanic had water subtext'.Lots42 05:24, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subext Part 2 

message: I don't know which song Ace is describing: "About this bloke and his girlfriend, and she drops the ring he gives her on the railroad track and when she goes back to get it shes killed by the train and he's really miserable for the rest of his life", but it isn't Gigantic by the Pixies. --Dorian oOo (talk) 19:05, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Song Described by Ace 

message: I'd put this in myself, but I never really kept up with the story. Can someone find a reference and put it in please? Crimsonraptor | (Contact me) Dumpster dive if you must 19:55, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: More details please? How does this episode have to do with Thatcher? Lots42 (talk) 20:52, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently they satirized Margaret Thatcher with Helen A (the character) from the story. It was in the Sunday Times in March, according to the mag's editorial. As I'm not British I never thought twice about it, but it seemed to cause quite a political buzz. Crimsonraptor | (Contact me) Dumpster dive if you must 21:01, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thatcher scandal 

message: Gigantic isn't the song described by Ace; Ace describes a song about a ring and a railroad; according to Kim Deal, Gigantic is a song about an inter-racial relationship. These are the lyrics to Gigantic by the Pixies:
And this I know
His teeth as white as snow
What a gas it was to see him
Walk her every day
Into a shady place
With her lips she said
She said
Hey Paul, Hey Paul, Hey Paul, let's have a ball [3x]
Gigantic, gigantic, gigantic
A big big love
Gigantic, gigantic, gigantic
A big big love
Lovely legs they are
What a big black mess
What a hunk of love
Walk her every day into a shady place
He's like the dark, but I'd want him  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.148.185.204 (talk) 12:56, 28 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed Gigantic reference.