Talk:Inner Banks

message: The term "Inner banks" properly refers to shorelines of the estuaries of Eastern North Carolina and certainly does not extend as far west as I-95, which is what the article claims.  As used in this article the term is geographically inaccurate and, as mentioned in the note about "Foundation for Renewal for Eastern NC" below, simply a bit of political fluff.  Delete it!  
--RL Mullen
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This article presently offers no notability or verifiability (i.e. sources) for this term.  I am also concerned by the trademark tags on the article (suggesting possible spam) as well as the fact that User:Kmills and User:70.184.189.14 are adding this term to any article in the "Inner Banks" area.  Metros232 17:24, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see that references were added, but we need outside sources for this.  We need independent sources to prove its notability and use outside this organization.  Metros232 17:52, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I somewhat agree. I could understand the Inner Banks being places like Washington, NC, Elizabeth City, NC, and Jacksonville, NC, but Fayetteville just seems too far away from a tidal river or a sound to be called a part of the "banks". Cities like Fayetteville, Wilson, Rocky Mount, etc. are more likely to be called part of the Coastal Plain region of NC. A possible more common name for the cities I described as the Inner Banks is the "Tidewater" region that is shown on many geographical (non political) maps of NC. --TinMan 17:57, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability and verifiability 

message: :The Inner Banks is a neologism without historical precedent
What an incredibly stupid way to start an article.
*I see (above) that this page has been suggested for deletion; I would strongly disagree with this suggestion.  I do have some issues with this article, which I'll detail below, but I think this article can/should be developed into an overall Eastern NC entry.
*I have concerns with the term "Inner Banks" - this strikes me as more of a marketing term than anything with any geographical authority or as anything in wide popular useage.  The NC precedent for something like this would be the term "Metrolina:" I grew up in Charlotte, and in spite of decades of effort to make the term stick (it originated with Chamber of Commerces who were looking for something catchy like "Triad" or "Triangle"), the only people in the Charlotte area I've ever met who used the term were marketing professionals, certain businesses and CofC staff.
*Similarly, Eastern NC is identified in professional, academic and popular useages as the "Coastal Plain" or "Eastern NC." As the current Coastal Plain article covers the entire southeast, I'm aware that a lack of geographic specificty IS a problem; this could be rectified by creating (or merging this) into a specific, disambiguated "Coastal Plain[North Carolina]" article.  I've lived around the state, but have only spent time in Wilmington, Dare County and Greenville (I haven't lived in those places), so I'm not quite an expert, but I'm suspecting that the new "Inner Banks" term is related to perceptions of the region (which gets into POV issues); I would argue that existing public, political, academic and media perceptions of "Coastal Plain" or "Eastern North Carolina" are valid, rooted, things that can be built upon, and aren't negative.  This is another argument entirely, however.
*Geographically speaking, the area encompassed by the term "Inner Banks" also seems debateable to me - Wilmington (and it's metro area) are fairly distinct from other regions of Eastern NC, with a distinct history and geography.  This is also true - to variable degrees - with Lumberton, Whiteville - again, perceptions come into play here, but Southeastern NC is often and widely viewed as its' own distinctive region.
*Similarly, Fayetteville is sometimes included in discussions of the "Sandhills," the "Coastal Plain," "Eastern NC," and - as a media market - as a satellite of the Triangle.
*As this article currently stands, I would suggest modest amounts of detail on the demographics, history, and metropolitan centers of the region.  The articles for the Triangle, Triad and Charlotte Metropolitan areas are far from perfect, and are undergoing some tweaking, but their basic organization could easily be used successfully here:  cities and towns, divided into population groupings of 50,000+ (Primary Cities); 10,000 to 49,999; and a selective guide to smaller towns.
*Similarly, grouped discussion of "History," "Transportation Network/Infrastructure," "Famous People" (varied cultural history - artists, writers, actors, musicians, major academic/political/sports/scientifc figures from or living in the region) would be a plus.  As time permits, I'll try to make some prudent additions.
*I think this is a great start to an article.  I just want to make sure that it remains more "encyclopedic" than "public relational," so as to ensure that it remains here.
Davidals 01:49, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Several Thoughts On This Page

message: Anywhere on a major body of water in Eastern North Carolina which feeds into the ocean = IBX, Outer Banks = OBX 
http://www.rontoppin.com/inner_banks_hwy.htm
The “Inner Banks” is a term that has come into common use in the last couple of years, to define that water oriented area west of the Outer Banks.  The  definition of the term “Inner Banks” is not yet popularly recognized due to the recent genesis of the name.  The competing desire by different areas to claim to be the “heart” or “center” of the Inner Banks creates more confusion.   The company that is claiming to have trademarked the term is causing ever more confusion by their insistence that the Inner Banks goes all the way west to I95.  This clearly will never be accepted since there is no water orientation at all to two thirds of this area.  To try and claim that Rocky Mount, Wilson, Goldsboro and Greenville are a part of something called the INNER BANKS, is simply not credible.   The Scenic Parkway project would serve as the major project to tie the area together and promote growth and development in a progressive yet conservation minded way.  It will also clarify the term Inner Banks in the public’s mind.
 
The natural definition of the “Inner Banks” which we are using is the western area of the two Sounds, Albemarle and Pamlico, and the four rivers which connect and feed these two Sounds, the Chowan and Roanoke Rivers feeding into the Albemarle Sound, and the Pamlico and Neuse Rivers feeding into the Pamlico Sound.  We propose a transportation artery that links both banks of all four rivers, close to the two sounds, but avoiding towns in the area. 
 
Only one of the four rivers in our definition of the Inner Banks has a usable bridge across the river that is not close to a major town and that is the bridge over the Roanoke River, called the Three Rivers Bridge (as it also crosses the Cashie and Middle Rivers at the same spot).  The value of the all bridges on the Scenic Parkway being away from towns is obvious in the explanation of why this project is so desirable, to maintain dispersed and rural development and to promote reasonable commuting speed.   The existing Three Rivers Bridge is integrated into our Inner Banks Scenic Parkway plan. 
Mbmariogc3s 22:42, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What the inners banks are. 

message: I wanted to comment on this page, because I think it is somewhat misrepresenting in its' facts. To say that the area all the way to I-95 is the "Inner Banks" would be a totally fallacy. It is termed geographically the Coastal Plain. The Inner Banks would be more accurately describing the area east of US Highway 17 and North of Morehead City. Areas south of Morehead City are not considered the Outer Banks and would therefore not be considered the "Inner Banks" either. Historically I have always heard the Inner Banks to be more specifically the inland parts of the counties that are considered the Outer Banks (i.e. Dare, Hyde, Currituck, Carteret). Whether this term is some kind of corporate economic development strategy or is being coined as a geographic term, I believe this page needs to be cleaned up quite a bit for it to be factual.Dm46607 07:45, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Tinman, you say "Wilmington, Jacksonville (military town), Rocky Mount, Wilson, and Fayetteveille do not embrace the "Inner Banks" at all, so they should definately be excluded."  Take a look at www.venture-east.com.  On this website you can find community profiles and copies of the IBX Newsletter.  As you will see, Wilmington, Rocky Mount, and Fayetteville have all been featured in the IBX Newsletter.  I, as the coordinating editor of the IBX Newsletter, would like to submit to this discussion that each of these communities was given the opportunity to write and submit their own article to the IBX Newsletter.  In each case, the tourism director and/or town manager wrote and submitted the article and photos of their towns.  To suggest that these towns do not embrace the IBX, or Inner Banks, seems to contradict the fact that they have written articles to be included in the IBX Newsletter.  You will also notice that Beaufort submitted an article related to the Pepsi Sail 2006 in the summer 2006 edition of the IBX Newsletter. Kevin R Mills 16:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I took a look over the IBX Newsletter articles again and searched for the term "Inner Banks". Still, I do not see any hard evidence showing that cities like Wilmington and Rocky Mount have "embraced" the "Inner Banks" term, with the exception of that Venture East website (although, it actually says some waterways are part of the Inner Banks and the list is of Eastern NC communities if you read it carefully). "Eastern North Carolina" is a term that seems to be used much more often. Also, I have found no definite source linking places like Wilmington directly to the Inner Banks. When I say "embrace the Inner Banks", I mean that the term is used colloquially, is part of some "geographical division", is used by local tourism organizations, etc. I do not see this for the aforementioned outer cities. The city of Washington is the epitome of the Inner Banks movement it seems, but for instance, Fayetteville, has not caught onto the idea (it may come later). I do not believe a submission to a newsletter for "Eastern North Carolina" communities (even though it's called the IBX Newsletter) is enough to say that the community is branded with the tag. Nevertheless, I've erred on the side of generalities on the IBX map. The "east of I-95" definition that some have used is used for the "seldomly included" yellow area. For the time being, I think it's best to define the region as just the area in red which meets more than 1 of the criteria I've listed above. Beaufort is arguable, but I think it's siding with the IBX brand and the Crystal Coast brand. --TinMan 17:07, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Some Thoughts

message: I think this page is silly. I live in Chocowinity, and in school, particularly social studies, we were always taught that we were in the Coastal Plains region. More than likely, IBX was something made up by a northerner to attract people to the area. I'd like to see this changed to 'Coastal Plains', so that it matches what we are taught, and so I dont have to keep editing the articles for Chocowinity and surrounding areas to match our social studies books.
Thanks.
Will (talk) 03:58, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  IBX? 

message: As an almost lifelong resident of Halifax County, I have never heard any part of our County referred to as "Inner Banks", and including the western Counties shown on this map as being in such a Region is highly misleading, and geographically, geologically, and physiologically, just plain wrong. Almost half of Halifax is actually in the Piedmont, and absolutely no part is "Tidewater", or even close to it. 
These representations hurt an64.237.16.42 (talk) 22:37, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inner Banks= Tidewater, not I-95 

message: For the area's former inclusion with the Sandhills as the Carolinas' "Piney Woods", see also the Civil War-era poem "Castle Thunder", where the prison's 'Goobers' are said to come from the Tar River. — LlywelynII 19:40, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Piney Woods