Talk:Alison Hargreaves

message: The inintial entry appears to be derived in large part from the Rose and Douglas book, or possibly reviews of the book.  If the original author reads this please feel free to correct me.  I have added additional sources, and made some adjustments to the text.  The major issue for me is to add some 'context' to the final K2 climb, where 5 other experienced climbers made the same decision as Alison - to go for the summit despite some concerns about the weather (and significantly Peter Hillary turned back).  The issue of Alison's gender, and consideration of her home life seems to me to be no more significant to her story as a 'climber' than they would be for any other - of either gender.  It seems to me that her presence on the mountain (K2)that day was a natural consequence of her career as a talented climber.  Her decision to continue to the summit was made by 5 other experienced climbers that day, all of whom died.
The question of what makes and drives climbers is the central issue in mountaineering.  It is legitimate to consider where people 'come from' and 'what they leave behind at home', but it is fairly clear that the most powerful motivation is the mountain, the lure of the summits - because (to paraphrase Mallory) "they are there".Tban 16:41, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
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message: Although some of the newspaper reports at the time of her death describe her as Scottish, she was born raised and lived most of her adult life around Derbyshire. This is detailed in the Rose & Douglas book. She had been living near Fort William prior to her death which may be source of the confusion.
I actually think that British is a better description - but other seem intend on emptying that category. --JBellis 17:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
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message: While Hargreaves may arguably be the best female alpinist ever, there needs to be clarification of solo, vs alone, vs unaided.
Solo - Hargreaves did not solo by most definitions, there are many definitions of Solo to chose from. https://explorersweb.com/what-does-solo-really-mean-in-high-altitude-climbing/
Alone - It is certainly true that she was not "alone". "Though Hargreaves was self-contained, there were 215 climbers on her route and the adjoining one during her weeks on the mountain." Additionally from the same source and page, she joined climbers Bianchi and Kuntner on the summit at 12:08pm. http://mountainsandminds.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Osius-Fast-Train-Hargreaves.pdf
The most harrowing part of a solo is the idea that you cannot tap out. You are alone physically and mentally. It's an all or nothing. 2600:1700:7B24:4D50:490B:DF42:BDCA:A7FD (talk) 13:30, 26 July 2022 (UTC)
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