Talk:Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted

message: I like it that there are 3 entries of vandalism today, all of which points to this article (see sarcasm). Grow up please! When we started the article was a stub and we intended to make a good description of it and highlight some of it's features. On our first try we went a bit overboard but that does not make it fine for others to go overboard in the opposite direction. Articles should have a nuetral point of view, which we try to have. If there is anything that does not conform to that please feel free to correct it without biasing it in the opposite direction. Do not add FUD as that will be edited out right away. If we disagree on something please bring it up here prior to turning it into an editwar.
That is, you change it once, and if it is not biased we leave it. If it is biased we change it back, if you still disagree move the discussion here so that we can resolve it in a matter that is not the side that reverts the most wins. --Marco 19:22, 5 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: We (at least the faction I belong to) try give it an accurate description, but it's hard to do any progress if we need to spend all our time removing jibberish. While we may need some help on this, inserting random crap is not making it better, correcting, rewording and removing faulty lines does. --Marco 07:02, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Forgot to mention, lots of gratitude for trying to improve the article rather than destroying it. --Marco 07:22, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)

text: ^------ --Marco 07:02, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: We are having some difficulties about keeping a neutral point of view it would seem. So please help us.
If you spot something biased, correct it, remove it or mark it with the starting tag [BIAS] and ending tag [/BIAS]. --Marco 07:19, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the tag so the article won't show up in the NPOV disputes category. -- Kjkolb 07:57, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Marco suggested that if you spotted something biased, that you "correct it, remove it or mark it with the starting tag [BIAS] and ending tag [/BIAS]". It's hard to see how wrapping the entire article in a pair of "[BIAS]"/"[/BIAS]" tags is to be interpreted as anything other than mischief. Or do you maintain that it is biased for us to claim that "Horizons: Empire of Istaria is a massively multiplayer online role-playing game" and that "http://www.istaria.com/" is the website? —Stormie 05:17, Aug 27, 2004 (UTC)
After reading this page, I agree with some of the comments on the talk page. This article reads like an advertisement for the game, listing all the positive features, but failing to give any mention to the negative aspects of the current state of the game. Listing the good things about Horizons is ok, but I don't think everything bad about the game should be ignored. Every game has its bad points, and they should be listed to keep the article fair and balanced. And I don't mean dredging up information about past ownership and other things. I mean current things, like bugs and issues with each feature that is listed in a positive light in the article. It shouldn't be too hard to give a brief mention of the bad things about the game along with the good. Gopher65 16:12, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutral point of view 

message: The part "where the game is at" that was at the end of the Gamersinfo URL sounds like a plug or it's advertising. As such, it was removed. Peter1968 11:55, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gamersinfo blurb 

message: To you IP addresses: 66.190.194.217, 116.14.43.164 that keep adding stuff, please bone up on sourcing stuff first. If you claim these things, prove it with references. It's not hard to do. Don't just make unreferenced statements, as they will be deleted. Peter1968 00:40, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I rewrote the last one and put in the link where the information comes from.  I tried doing it with the citation code but it doesn't work (probably because there is no Sources heading and I don't know how to make one) so I just put in the link for now.  Darkwriter 12:18, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blight restored, new owner, rosy future etc... 

message: No one seems to either read or edit this page any more, so I'm probably just talking to myself here, but I don't think the "timeline" section is appropriate. Or at least it is used incorrectly. It is mostly filled with minor, no-longer-valid information, and it doesn't site any references. I wouldn't even know where to begin referencing most of that stuff. I've followed this game for a long time, so I know much of it is true, but how do I show that? We can't just say "this is true because I saw it happen!" There has to be proof of the statements made. I think most of this section should be deleted or, where references (and validity) can be produced, bundled into a "History" section. If no one disagrees or bothers commenting within a few weeks I'll go ahead and do it:). Gopher65 03:17, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have this article on my watchlist, but I mainly look out for vandalism and the like. Go ahead and do what you think is necessary to enhance it. Be bold! Peter1968 09:31, 19 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, I'd have to say that some sort of timeline is necessary to present such complicated information about a game like this.  How about looking for references for it instead.  --TatharNuar 02:36, 14 October 2007 (UTC)

text: If you think it's bad or wrong, feel free to edit it (be bold in other words). As for nobody reading it, how would you know? Peter Greenwell (talk) 03:10, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Was bold. I replaced the Timeline section with the Recent Developments section. I left the last 5 events in the timeline, since they are the most recent listed (although not the most recent updates to the game... and there is a miniexpansion due to be released soon), and they had sources. I think the article reads smoother now. Gopher65talk 01:19, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline 

message: Is this expansion in the works or did it die in the projection stage? Peter1968 (talk) 13:04, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It died with Tulga. Is it still listed somewhere other than the Timeline? I'm going to have to go through that timeline at some point I suppose. Not looking forward to that. Gopher65 (talk) 23:34, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Settlements... 

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replies: text: Just added one. Peter1968 (talk) 00:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Horizons- Empire of Istaria logo.jpg

message: as VIRTRIUM LLC has recently renamed Horizons: Empire of Istaria to Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted
i have created an article for the new name with a redirect to here, but am not sure if i should leave like that or move this article to the new name, does anyone have an opinion on this
(Firebladed (talk) 10:54, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renaming of Game By VIRTRIUM 

message: as VIRTRIUM LLC has recently renamed Horizons: Empire of Istaria to Istaria: Chronicles of the Gifted
i have created an article for the new name with a redirect to here, but am not sure if i should leave like that or move this article to the new name, does anyone have an opinion on this
(Firebladed (talk) 10:54, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Redirect done. Peter1968 (talk) 11:54, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renaming of Game By VIRTRIUM 

message: The game has been renamed by VIRTRIUM LLC the owner (see press release in article references)
was going to move myself, if no objections, but appears to me someone tried copy and paste of content move, as logs showed no mention of a move so now I cannot as the redirect page has a history
(Firebladed (talk) 13:30, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: I've sent a request to the Virtrium team asking them to place some screenshots into the public domain. That way  I can use the screenies here without the hassle of having to go through a Fair Use tug-of-war with the copyright nutballs on Commons;). We'll see if they respond or not. If they don't, I'll find some screenies from somewhere and I'll try and Fair Use them. Gopher65talk 01:23, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Screenshots

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