Talk:Ophiuchus

message: "If we were to observe Earth's Sun from Tau Ceti, it would appear as a 2.54 magnitude star in Ophiuchus."
Not true. The Sun would be in Bootes and of magnitude 1.43 (according to Starry Night Pro).— Preceding unsigned comment added by Eroica (talk • contribs) 16:41, 2005 May 10 (UTC)
:It would be in Bootes, but with a magnitude of 2.66 (3.64parsecs away)— Preceding unsigned comment added by Richard B (talk • contribs) 00:51, 2005 October 12 (UTC)
::I believe you're corrected, and have edited out the Tau Ceti reference. -- Curps 03:34, 12 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tau Ceti 

message: Incredibly unlikely that this sign has anything to do with the "Earth Goddess" symbology, because the concept of a universal Earth Goddess which ancient paganism followed is a 20th century invention based on the inaccurate and contrived literature of Margaret Murray in her 1921 book "The Witch-Cult in Western Europe". 
While goddess of fertlity and agriculture certaintly were worshiped, these goddess are ancenstral to the present day concept of the "Earth Goddess" invented by Gardner (a good aquaintance of Mrs. Murray) when he constructed Wicca. There was no one singular goddess anymore than there was one singular god. Historically speaking, what was largely suppressed during the Inquisition (or "Burning Times", if you will) was Christian mysticism such as Goetian (demon summoning and commanding using grimories such as the Key of Solomon-- it is interesting to note many Catholic exorcists engaged in the practice at the time) practices and Christian-Kabbalah hybrids. The vast majority of ancient pagan gods were transformed into Saints and incorporated into orthodox Christianity (Catholicism) long before the Inquisition was ever dreamed up. Very little paganism was actually practiced in Europe at the time-- the religious populations were pretty much split between Christian orthodoxy, Judaism/Kabbalah and Islam; although Christian orthodoxy held greater sway of influence than any of the other religions did. Much of the actual religious persecution was against these latter religions by the Christian orthodoxy. The accusations filed against the Knights Templar is a prime example: they were accused of worshiping Mohammed(Baphomet was an extremely common french misspelling of Mohammed) in the official records. The concept that Templars were paganists is a modern day invention.
And any serious scholar of occultic/religious history knows all of these things. 
I can only speculate on why Ophiuchus was left out the same way I can only speculate on why the current Zodiac consists of Twelve Constellations but not any others. However, I can say with a great deal of certainty it had nothing to do with the persecution of a non-existant "Earth Goddess cult". --65.102.7.2 02:33, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earth Goddess? 

message: * "ˌoff-ee-'YOU-kus"? anyone? --W guice 16:15, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ♠My $0.02 (based on 2yrs of Latin...), it's "oh FEE i koose". A sound file is a good idea, if we can agree on which pronounciation to use. (My impression is, most Latin pronounciation today is very Italianate...)  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  04:50, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  pronunciation 

message: It looks from the image on teh wikibox that Alpha Ophiucus is in the area of hte sky assigned to Hercules.  Why is that? Nik42 06:27, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are two images on Hercules (constellation), one steals the star from Ophiuchus and one doesn't. • Maurog • 08:44, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constellation borders? 

message: Yesterday I splitoff Ophiuchus (astrology) from this article: I think the mythological stuff takes too much place in quite a few articles, and that astronomical facts is the main point, while mythology, history and visualizations only serves as a memoization aid in order to add a "human decoration" to the spicey spacey rock hard astronomy facts. ... said: Rursus (mbork³) 09:10, 5 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Splitoff

message: Would be nice to have a pc of the famous Rho Ophiuchus nebula . Fig (talk) 22:07, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: "until recently"? When, exactly, did the Greek superceed?  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  19:58, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed. If this wasn't known before the Roman era, then why is the Greek name more popular?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.21.97.157 (talk) 22:53, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Leggo my snake

message: Why is this star shown as being part of the constellation of Oph. in the info box? 203.206.23.120 (talk) 02:43, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see Alpha Her in the infobox, but I see that the brightest star is Alpha Oph. BlueEarth (talk | contribs) 21:09, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alpha Hercularis 

message: The mythology section was just removed from the astrology article on the premise it's about "modern astrology, not the history" etc.  I've asked the deleting editor the why and the wherefore of that, but it's also curious to me why it's not here.  Are astronomers so "anti-superstition" they don't even deign to include the mythological origin of the signs; are the other zodiacal constellations and other constellations also bereft of any reference to their mythological origins, or the figures they represent??Skookum1 (talk) 19:19, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Needs to be restored, anyone want to be bold? Coolgamer (talk) 01:43, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I 2RRd it already, doesn't really matter if I were too as I'm a long-time editor but I really don't like edit warring....go ahead and restore it, add a cite/fact tag, and I'll do what I can at the library here to see what I can find out about its mythological origins; it's not like modern astrologers put this in the sky, is it?  The Imhotelp seems plausible to me, at least insofar as a claim possibly made by the hermetic tradition if not the actual Egyptian origin.  The otehr serpent-wrestler in Greek legend, other than Heracles, is Apollo himself, who wrastled with Python for control of the Delphic oracle; I doubt that's the reference, though, but it may be.....Skookum1 (talk) 03:12, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Mythology a blank spot

message: Thought I should share this to proove that it is indeed a zodiac. 
http://ophiuchus.tribe.net/thread/1697fb3a-34e6-4a24-ba14-1eda9f1a5042  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.183.32.49 (talk) 06:19, 16 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yes, it is a zodiac 

message: Zodiacal status aside, should we not list its symbol (a U with a tilde in it) as we do with other celestial bodies?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.251.165.65 (talk) 20:37, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I would list the symbol if and only if a reliable source can be found for the symbol, and the reliable source shows the symbol is, or was, in widespread use. Jc3s5h (talk) 22:57, 21 April 2012 (UTC)

text: That was Berg's 1995 proposal for astrology, and so would only be relevant to the extent that Berg is. — kwami (talk) 01:04, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  symbol 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Ophiuchus's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "objects":
From Lyra: 
From Capricornus: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 05:00, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like someone forgot the "name=" attribute . --Enric Naval (talk) 10:15, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Ophiuchus]] 

message: Do any of you see a connection with this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laoco%C3%B6n_and_His_Sons
Seems reasonable to me!
Regards, 96.19.147.40 (talk) 01:08, 19 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Laocoon, etc. 

message: I have noticed the following style aspects of this article:
*It uses American English (notice the spelling of the word "honor").
*The first edit to include a date was on October 10, 2004, and used the format Month, dd, yyyy.
*There is no consistent style for citations, and as far as I can tell, there never was a consistent style.
I hope to clean up the style at some point in the not to distant future. Jc3s5h (talk) 17:56, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Style

message: the naked-eye star ζ Ophiuchi
This should be edited to also be link to the WP article on this high-speed star and its "bow wave "
Zeta Ophiuchi
99.251.239.140 (talk) 12:56, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  the naked-eye star ζ Ophiuchi 

message: The sentences in this section are incredibly weak. I've read it twice and it's wordy to the point of being unintelligible. I could rewrite that section but it would look like this: Ophiuchus and the zodiac See: Ophiuchus (astrology).  Much prettier. -rudyard (talk) 04:54, 13 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ophiuchus and the zodiac section 

message: I'm hesitant to edit the article myself for fear of upsetting editors, but I just realized in reading the article for this constellation that a significant insight is missing.  The trajectory of the Voyager 1 space craft is such that it appears from the perspective of the earth to be converging on Rasalhague in this constellation, Ophiuchus.  It of course isn't really headed there.  Over next few billions of years it's trajectory will be complex.  
But for now, for us on earth, I think it's interesting and important that star gazers know that our first interstellar object can be found approximately here.  The Voyager 1 Wikipedia article has a "timeline" graphic that shows its rough position over the last years of its mission:  Voyager 1  With distance increasing, its apparent motion in the heavens will slow to a near stand still, at least as gauged from our short life times.
If this inspires someone qualified, then please add the reference.  I think it makes this constellation even more interesting than the astronomical goodies who already call it home.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.34.228.123 (talk) 17:48, 7 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voyager 1 Location 

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message: What kind of birthday do they have and why are they so rare? 45.47.127.87 (talk) 20:52, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The birthday