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Wikipedia talk:Tendentious editing

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Wikipedia:POVFIGHTER. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 February 23#Wikipedia:POVFIGHTER until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Crossroads -talk- 05:15, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Wikipedia:POVFIGHTER" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: "Accusing others of malice" section lists accusing others of  as signs of problematic behaviour. I think the list should also explicitly mention "whitewashing", a fairly common incivil accusation closely related to "censorship". Which is why I will now boldly add "whitewashing" to the list.
A separate but loosely related issue is that WP:WHITEWASH and WP:WHITEWASHING currently redirect to Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not#Wikipedia is not a soapbox or means of promotion. I have considered going to Redirects for discussion and propose targeting this essay. (Before those redirects were created, I actually planned creating a redirect or redirects pointing to this essay.) Politrukki (talk) 21:41, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Whitewashing isn't inherently an incivil accusation. See also: sugarcoating. It's a description of providing a euphemistic or overly positive spin. I can see a legitimate use for this term in the discourse. Also, in my edit summary, I wrote "this is a policy" and I mean to write "essay."Andre🚐 21:58, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Imagine a user says torepeatedly asks another (in an edit summary or discussion) to . What would be the legitimate purpose of saying that and how that would not be incivil? Now switch "whitewashing" with "censoring", what changes (except that "censoring" may go both ways)? Note that an accusation of "whitewashing" can be totally baseless. Politrukki (talk) 12:54, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  In some circumstances such a statement might be regarded as a personal attack in violation of NPA if it is done in a way that implies ill-motivation rather than innocent bias. However, I think that "tendentious editing" refers only to what editors put into articles, not to what they say to each other. Zerotalk 13:14, 6 October 2023 (UTC)

text: I was caught in edit conflict, but I was going to add this: Accusing others of censoring is not inherently incivil behaviour, e.g. there are very specific cases where using the class of  templates is appropriate. Politrukki (talk) 13:24, 6 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accusing others of whitewashing
Talk:Branko Cikatić

message: Was the fight against Ralph White according to K-1 or MMA rules? Kubura 14:14, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Uh, there's an issue with his record as it's listed here. The table summarizing his career (at least what can be verified) has 7 losses recorded, but he's listed as only having 5. Someone with more knowledge than myself may want to check that out.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.10.248.245 (talk) 00:08, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Record
Talk:Branko Grünbaum

message: Hi all, I just added some information and a new citation (a monograph which the authors state was inspired by a paper of Grünbaum). In the interests of scholarly disclosure :-/ I should explain that Grünbaum served on my dissertation committee, and that the claim that the same paper by Grünbaum inspired a paper by N. G. de Bruijn which initiated the field of quasiperiodic tilings is based upon said dissertation, on the generalization of Penrose tilings introduced by de Bruijn. (Roger Penrose and John Horton Conway also deserve credit for starting this field, but de Bruijn was the first to publish a mathematical research paper in this area, in which he made contributions essential to awakening the interest of research mathematicians.)
I am pretty sure it would be fair to state that Grünbaum's monograph on convex polytopes was a major influence leading to important work by Louis J. Billera on the upper bound conjecture (as a Fulkerson Prize winner, he should surely have a wikibio) and Richard Stanley (the Stanley-Reissner ring), but others would know more about this, I think.---CH 21:07, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Disclosure

message: if someone was not born in Croatia, not ethnic Croat, not worked in Croatia as an academician, how the same person might be a Croat? I've fixed article by replacing Croatian by Yugoslav.--65.220.39.94 (talk) 14:57, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Croat?
Talk:Branko Zorko

message: On July 11th, yes, but what year? Fomalhaut76 (talk) 14:32, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retired when? 
Talk:Brant Brown

message: It seems to me that half of this article is devoted to a September 1998 misplay. The Cubs made the playoffs anyway. This is certainly undue weight as it stands. It should either be trimmed, and/or the rest of the article should be expanded to counterbalance. – Muboshgu (talk) 16:47, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This statement is way too hyperbolic. Half of the article is about this one error, which does a disservice to the rest of his life and career. I will add details where needed and subtract as necessary. – Muboshgu (talk) 13:15, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

text: I don’t know much about hyperbole; I’m just a guy who appreciates this type of info on Wiki.  With all due respect to your scholarly work (averaging 40 contributions per day for over 9 years), please don’t forget that Wiki serves a broad spectrum of visitors, not all of them academics.    It’s kinda scary that you re-wrote Brant’s entire entry to totally minimize the 1998 error, and deleted the Santo reference in the process.  If this is the kind of arbitrary negationism an Auspicious Looshpah does, I wouldn’t be too proud of it. Briqman (talk) 19:41, 3 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  undue 
Talk:Brant Miller

message: Hey folks — this looks to be pretty much ripped from the first external link here: 
I'm going to try and edit later this week to alleviate the issue, but I wanted to tag this before I forgot, because this is definitely someone who passes the WP:NOTABLE test + also deserves more than an unsourced BLP!  ɯɐɔ 💬 04:25, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed copyvio'd content. Thanks for tagging. ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me!  18:24, 1 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tagged close paraphrasing/copypaste
Talk:Blood Sugar Sex Magik (song)

message: This song has been played in more than two shows. I don't think that information is very valid and should be taken out. Go to theside.free.fr for more information. I went to Philly on 10/24/06 and they played it so do what you wish with it. Cdylan13 14:12, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I agree. They played it on both shows in Stockholm December 11 and 12 too. I'll go ahead and change it now. Tooga 15:17, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rare Live performances?
Talk:Brant Parker

message: WikiProject Biography Assessment Drive
The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 14:53, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography/Assessment#Class_parameter|Biography assessment rating]] comment 
Talk:Blow Away

message: This article is one of thousands on Wikipedia that have a link to YouTube in it.  Based on the External links policy, most of these should probably be removed.  I'm putting this message here, on this talk page, to request the regular editors take a look at the link and make sure it doesn't violate policy.  In short: 1. 99% of the time YouTube should not be used as a source. 2. We must not link to material that violates someones copyright. If you are not sure if the link on this article should be removed or you would like to help spread this message contact us on this page. Thanks, ---J.S (t|c) 05:16, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  YouTube links 
Talk:Breckin Meyer

message: Didin't he have a sitcom?69.136.128.185 00:33, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: sitcom?

message: I know that can't possibly be acceptable according to Wikipedia. No one probably has seen it yet. There is not even a face. Best to find another picture that actually shows Breckin Meyer. ~ GoldenGoose100 (talk) 07:20, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Uploaded new photo from his recent appearance at the 2009 Comic Con Robot Chicken panel. Gage (talk) 11:40, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: What is that picture???
Talk:Brede Hangeland

message: He is listed as 1.95m on every other bio available. Who gave him 1.99m?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.34.60.254 (talk) 15:24, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The height is cited from his Fulham-profile which says 1.99m. Feel free to change his height and the source, if you find another reliable source. Mentoz86 (talk) 15:44, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Blue Skies (Irving Berlin song)

message: The article states that "Today, Blue Skies is public domain."
Is it really in the public domain? --62.47.43.110 18:40, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is in the public domain now! 2023. --Bastique ☎ call me! 17:57, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I think it may be worth noting that "Louise", composed by Whiting in the same time frame, is the same song. I postulate that Whiting gave the song to Berlin.
Spope3 (talk) 12:33, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Richard A. Whiting song "Louise"
Talk:Brenda and Robert Vale

message: WikiProject Biography Assessment
The article may be improved by following the WikiProject Biography 11 easy steps to producing at least a B article. -- Yamara 19:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography/Assessment#Class_parameter|Biography assessment rating]] comment 

message: I am unaware of any wind power facility in place at the "New Autonomous House". Perhaps this point could either be clarified or removed?
 - (former resident of the house). DBSouthwell 19:40, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference to wind power, Autonomous House, Southwell. 

message: The Vale's have been paid off by oil companies to distract from the carbon pollution caused by large vehicles.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.217.240.32 (talk) 06:04, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to Oil Companies? 

message: Green Architecture: Design for a Sustainable Future Hardcover, September 9, 1991
by Brenda Vale and Robert Vale,  --87.153.119.239 (talk) 11:55, 23 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book 

message: The reference states:
... Mind-bending stuff, and more than a little scientifically dubious ("I wouldn't have thought a dog had anywhere near as high a carbon footprint as a car," says John Buckey, managing director of carbonfootprint.com)."
So, someone running a website called Carbonfootprint is surprised over the result; is that sufficient to call a scientific study dubious? 00prometheus (talk) 23:09, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wikipedia article currently says the conclusions are "debateable", which seems a fair comment. I agree "dubious" it a stronger, more negative word. Judging by the conclusion of the opinion piece ("cats are far tastier") the 'news' article seems slightly tongue-in-cheek anyway. Sionk (talk) 14:30, 17 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scientifically Dubious? 
Talk:Brenda Blethyn

message: A bit confused as to how Brenda was the youngest of nine children, was born in 1946, but her parents didn't marry until 1944?  They were Roman Catholics, did they really have several children out of wedlock?  2602:306:BDF0:ADC0:AD57:DBB5:2D12:27A4 (talk) 05:48, 13 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Siblings

message: It shows "The Dumping Ground" in the list of TV shows Brenda was in, but there is no record/reference in either the show's wikipedia page or IMDB listing her name. Is there a way to get a ref to prove she was in that show? Or should it be deleted until one can be found?
Hotgardener (talk) 20:51, 16 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for TV show
Talk:Body and Soul (1930 song)

message: There is an undue focus on Coleman Hawkins in this article. While, yes, his recording is undeniably one of the most famous in Jazz history, there are many others worthy of note, and the coverage, even after my slight cleanup, is still really too in-depth for the scope of this article. Perhaps it belongs in an article on the recording, or in Coleman's article itself. Essentially this is an NPOV problem.
A note to all editors. The sentence:
Hawkins' solo on this take is considered to be "one of the finest examples of pure, spontaneous creative artistry in the history of jazz."
had  on it for over two-and-a-half years, yet I can find no source for the statement, even in an industry where such praise is commonplace. As a result, the only citations for the sentence are from Wikipedia itself. This kind of empty quotation is unacceptable; it gives the initial impression that it is the opinion of a notable person, when upon a little further inspection - which most would not take upon themselves - it looks more like the work of an overzealous Wikipedian. This isn't just harmful to Wikipedia and its reputation, it's also harmful to anybody who relies on Wikipedia as a source of, well, reliable information. There is now a host of reproductions of this unsourcable laudatory which will never go away.
The community has an unfortunate habit of letting these things happen which we should strive to avoid in the future. One thing you can do to help is not let uncited but highly-opinionated statements go so long without being cited - check their citation request dates and be bold about removing them, particularly quotations which cannot be found on e.g. Google. Remember: people don't just read this stuff, they copy it too! Greg Ravn (talk) 01:19, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Hawkins focus

message: There are many contentious copyright issues surrounding the propagation of lead sheets, and as such, pending confirmation that this song is in the public domain, I've removed its link from the article. I confess I don't know Wikipedia's policy on the subject. In addition, there are many, many different lead sheets to this tune, and one could argue that it would be unencyclopedic to reference one person's interpretation of it without sourcing the original chord progression. Greg Ravn (talk) 01:33, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead sheet

message: For one of the most popular jazz standards ever, this article is remarkably short. There is no mention of hit versions (other than Coleman Hawkins) like benny goodman's 1935 trio take. Bts.smith (talk) 19:03, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Short
Talk:Body Feels Exit

message: Can anyone clarify what "body feels exit" actually means? Does it refer to the ecstatic feeling of relief one experiences when having a good crap after an all you can eat bean buffet?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.205.86.2 (talk) 16:43, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Fuel cell (disambiguation)

message: Aviation or aircraft fuel cells are also called "fuel cell" , so should be listed here -- 67.70.35.44 (talk) 06:09, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Added. That sure is confusing terminology! DMacks (talk) 09:46, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Aviation fuel cell]]
Talk:Bokutachi no Yukue

message: Bokutachi no Yukue (Hitomi Takahashi song) → Bokutachi no Yukue — There is nothing to disambiguate here, so the page should be at the simpler title. Dekimasu 10:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: Add  * Support  or  * Oppose  on a new line followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.
*Support as nominator. Dekimasu 10:21, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: This article is of such little importance it should be merged into Hitomi Takahashi (singer), or just deleted. Beatle Revolver (talk) 23:05, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge
Talk:Brenda Fricker

message: The article has the following:
 (She once stated that she had taken on the whole crew of My Left Foot. "I played pool against 17 of them, and beat them all," Brenda said
It has the redundancy "She once stated" then "Brenda said"
Montalban (talk) 11:15, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundancy
Talk:David Grace (racing driver)

message: Is he known as the greatest man that ever lived? Unless evidence for this can be produced I think this claim should be removed from the entry. --163.1.223.30 12:02, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Bombers (David Bowie song)

message: The Nilsson who covered this song is a female singer named Nilsson, not to be confused with Harry Nilsson.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tstamps (talk • contribs) 00:58, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Brenda Milner

message: Reads like a puffed up Curriculum Vitae. Doesn't seem very encyclopedic.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.66.195.160 (talk) 03:05, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes.  Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the  link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills.  New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to).  WhatamIdoing (talk) 18:54, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

text: I had the same impression as the first poster that it reads like a puffed up CV. I also want to refer to Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(biographies)#Academic_titles, in brief: don't "dr dr all the time." Ben  T/C  12:39, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

text: The organization still seems to be lacking. Some sections can be added to focus on and highlight her work itself instead of listing rewards and honors.   Taltalgur (talk) 13:11, 19 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Reads
Talk:Michel-Pouliot Gaspé Airport

message: We should talk about when an airport article stops being a stub.  While the Gaspé Airport article is short, I also think that it has enough information to stand alone as an article.  Certainly, you could make it longer — add information on accidents near the airport, airline schedules, etc. — but as it stands, the basic airport information and history are already there. David 12:03, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stub? 

message: The French version clearly mentions the airport was reconstructed in 1965. There had been an airstrip long before that year. It was built during the early 1950s and it was used by Transgaspésien aérien ltée that later became Air Gaspé around 1960. At first, the airstrip was very small and didn't have the same facilities it has now. The man who built the first airport eventually rebuilt it with the help of Transport Canada. An interesting fact : When it became city propriety, one of the owner's conditions were that no citizen could ever pay taxes for a service they didn't use. Only the people who use the facilities are charged. 
Drchekov (talk) 16:50, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Construction in 1965 ? 
Talk:Boogie Woodie

message: This article doesn't even say when the song Boogie Woodie was recorded. Would anyone mind placing the recording date on the article if possible? NHRHS2010NHRHS2010 03:19, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Supposedly, it was recorded on July 16, 1963, but there are also 9 other songs listed as being recorded on that day. Which is well near impossible. It is assumed that July 16 is just the date that the session logs were turned in, and that there were around 4 different sessions before that date when the songs were recorded. (All for the Surfer Girl album, by the way.) At this point, there is no way of telling the exact date of any of those sessions. MookieZ (talk) 05:14, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. When I find a source that says that it was recorded on 7/16/1963, then might as well put it in the article with reliable source. NHRHS2010NHRHS2010 20:14, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recording date
Talk:Brenda Schultz-McCarthy

message: "... eighth fastest serve ... " It is hard to keep these type of references current given the ever changing record improvements.  According to wiki (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fastest_recorded_tennis_serves) as of Jun 2021, she's either 4th, 10th or 5th.  It might be better to say " ... one of the fastest ... " SquashEngineer (talk) 12:48, 29 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stale Reference
Talk:Boots of Spanish Leather

message: Spanish Leather is actually the name of an after shave, so there is no material request at the end of the song.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8070:218D:BE00:9284:DFF:FEF5:C9F8 (talk) 05:00, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duuuh…
Talk:Brendan Barber

message: I deleted a dead link to Press briefing announcing his election. OldSpot61 (talk) 11:18, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tidying up content 
Talk:Border Song

message: "Bad Side of the Moon" was subsequently covered by April Wine and Toe Fat. I placed this information on the article, but it has been reverted suggesting that it doesn't belong in the lede. I have a couple of question. Where do I insert the B-Side song covers? Do I start a new section on them? Just curious. Thanks for any advice. Frschoonover (talk) 17:10, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: IMHO, it would be fine in either the "cover versions" section, or in its own section. The more covers there are, the more likely it would need its own section. Doctorhawkes (talk) 01:09, 5 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Covers of B-Side Song
Talk:Brendan Christian

message: This was on tagged on at the very end of the article, with no Wiki formatting whatsoever. Some of the info is already incorporated but more may be of use. Basement12 (T.C) 03:08, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Material from bottom of article 