Talk:Jean-Marie Lustiger

message: I removed the bit about "Some "religious" Jews ..." According to "religious Jewish law" Lustiger is undoubtedly Jewish. Furthermore, given his age and the circumstances of his conversion, he falls into the halachic category of tinok shenishba ("a child who was taken captive"), if anything, and would not even be considered apostate. What some Jews might take offense over is the idea that he might be using his position as a Catholic cardinal to speak on behalf of Jews observing Judaism. My own experience is that there is far less animosity to Lustiger than the former paragraph would imply. Danny 11:47, 19 Jan 2004 (UTC)
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message: *Oppose. I realize this is an irresponsible vote, since it goes against democratic centralism regarding the conventions on names and titles. But I hate titles. A bas tous les tyrans! QuartierLatin1968 03:01, 3 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Page Move

message: Any particular reason why this article was/ought to be flipped from British to American spelling?  Alai 05:27, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  British, US English 

message: I note that Cardinal Lustiger lost his right to vote in a conclave today (17 Sep 2006) upon reaching the age of 80. His status as an elector or not would seem to be an important bit of information, however its not obvious to me where it might fit within the current article. Is there a standard way of indicating this?--Dcheney 04:22, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All cardinals lose their right to vote in conclaves when reaching 80. It's automatic. So there is no reason to mention it. JHobson3 (talk) 18:33, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Cardinal-Elector

message: Was the Cardinal a smoker?  I'm just wondering how he got lung cancer.J.J. Bustamante 05:08, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 15% of lung cancer cases are non-smokers ; 10 percent of men and 20 percent of women with lung cancer never smoked  Hoserjoe 02:20, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lung Cancer

message: These papers' accounts of Lustiger's situation in early World War II contradict each other. 
:IHT: Lustiger and sister sent to Orleans after the German invasion in May/June 1940
:Telegraph: Entire family relocates to Orleans after outbreak of war in September 1940
:IHT: Lustiger lives with a Catholic family in Orleans and is exposed to Catholic beliefs
:Telegraph: Lustiger lives with his own family in Orleans and is discouraged from contact with Christian religious culture.
:IHT: Lustiger was still in Paris in Holy Week 1940.
:Telegraph: Lustiger was in Orleans in Holy Week and decided to convert on Holy Thursday/Good Friday (March 21-22) 1940, in Orleans Cathedral.
:IHT: Lustiger's father dies in 1982.
:Telegraph: He dies in 1980.
Obviously, somebody has their facts wrong - but who? Both newspapers are regarded as fairly reliable. I've been editing the article to reflect the Telegraph's account, which I *intuit* to be more accurate, but other people may support the IHT. What we don't want is contradictory statements. For example, if he moved to Orleans after the May/June invasion, he cannot have converted in Orleans in March.66.183.165.57 21:54, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Le Figaro articles states: "À Orléans, où ils l'envoient avec sa soeur à l'annonce de la guerre, le futur cardinal demandera explicitement à être baptisé dans l'Église catholique, à l'âge de 14 ans." (In Orleans, where he was sent with his sister at the announcement of the war, the futur Cardinal explicitly requested to be baptized in the Catholic Church, at age 14.) Henri Tincq in Le Monde also explicitly states that the conversion happened in Orleans during the Holy Week of 1940. The French press thus back up the Telegraph, not the IHT. Tazmaniacs 21:59, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Concerning the deletion of yellow badge and Statute of Jews, don't assume anything is "too well known" here on Wikipedia. What is "too well known" to one person (let's say a 50 years-old French) is not that well known to another (let's say a 13 years-old from the other side of the planet). Furthermore, his parents wore the badge, so it's important info. Finally, contextual info is always nice as it brings the individual in context with the period. Tazmaniacs 22:07, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Telegraph versus International Herald Tribune 

message: This article was automatically  assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 03:58, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: I wonder if we could classify Cardinal Lustiger as multireligious or syncretic, based on comments and practices. 68.37.254.48 (talk) 21:54, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multireligious? 

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message: The article previously said "In October 1940, the Vichy regime passed the first antisemtic [sic] laws, which forced Jews in France to wear a yellow badge." This is incorrect. The sourcing on this claim is a defunct link. Per the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum, Jews in occupied France were not forced to wear the yellow star until June 7, 1942. Vichy France did not require the star at all. When Germany invaded Vichy France in November 1942, per Yad Vashem, Jews in the formerly unoccupied zone were not required to wear the yellow star. The Vichy government nonetheless did promulgate dozens of anti-Semitic laws and decrees that, with time, imposed increasingly draconian restrictions on Jews in France.72.78.202.204 (talk) 22:11, 16 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correction on yellow star