Talk:M1919 Browning machine gun

message: Removed references to "7.62mm" when the cartridge in question is the US M1906 .30 caliber.  It was never referred to as such in US usage, while "7.62mm" would indicate the 7.62mm NATO cartridge.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.202.228.215 (talk) 13:28, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Getting shot by one sucked about as much as getting shot by an MG42. Or - well, getting shot in general.Michael Dorosh 14:00, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  True enough ! The M1919 had a much lower rate of fire than the MG42, but so do most machineguns. It was comperable to other belt-fed guns of the era. The ability to link together many metallic belts, as on the MG42 and most modern MGs, is a really nice feature the M1919 lacked with its cloth belts. DMorpheus 16:46, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: In the 'History' section, last sentence, it states: "The weapon originally fired the 30-06 or the M2 rifle cartridge in either woven cloth or disintegrating metallic link belts fed from left to right". The picture at the top of the article clearly shows the weapon feeding from right to left. I assume this means the image is the wrong way round, but I don't know how to correct it.
RASAM 22:07, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I haven't seen other photos like that - I too thought the lead photo was reversed. DMorpheus 16:41, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Feed system

message: Some citations would be nice (and indeed, are required for a better classification. The article also really needs expandind. Carom 13:05, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: I know this variant was used by the US Cavalry in the 1920s, Was it ever used in World War 2/Vietnam War?. Myself, I think it should have been becouse it had a shorter barrel and would be well suited to Infantry units, especially Paratroops and Marines. User:EX STAB, 14:18, 23 March 2007.
:No, the M1919A2 was specifically for cavalry units.  When the shift from horses to vehicles was made, the M1919A2 soldiered on for a short period between the wars on these vehicles, but by the time WWII had rolled around the M1919A4 had taken the show.  It might've been well suited to infantry units, but the structure of US infantry units and their associated tactics to this day are not suited to such a weapon.  The M1919A4s were held in a weapon platoon, while M1917s and .50 caliber M2s were held at company level.  The possibly mobility afforded by the M1919A2, even at platoon level, is sort of irrelevant as these weapons were supposed to provide supporting fire, not be used as an assault weapon.  The BAR provided suppressive fire capability at squad level and during assaults. -- Thatguy96 17:22, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: M1919A2 Question

message: In the movie Death Wish 3, Charles Bronson's character is shown carrying and firing a Browning M1919. Is it possible to do this? 158.123.160.2 15:43, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Possible, yes, possible to do so comfortably or accurately or for prolonged periods of time, not likely. A modified M1919 with a shoulder sling and side-mounted pistol grip made from a cocking handle was also featured in the movie Terminator 3.  -- Thatguy96 23:40, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Additionally, considering the M1919 was recoil-driven, it may also cause stoppages from failure to feed if the weapon is allowed free movement in the direction of recoil.  Deathbunny 01:09, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not to mention a burned left hand. DMorpheus 16:46, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

text: There's nothing on that link that suggests that anyone ever fired an M1919 "from the hip" in combat, and while I'm sure it happened in select instances, it was never accepted doctrine.  Neither the M1919 or M60 were ever used at squad level in standard infantry units, and the M240 isn't either.  You don't see people running around with them, and its not part of tactical doctrine. -- Thatguy96 18:10, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hand-Carrying

message: It seems to have disappeared (the infobox image that is) --Tom of north wales 18:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And if you click on the link to the image location you can read why. -- Thatguy96 18:57, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image gone? 

message: Can we please replace it with something else, it seems silly to have a picture of a machinegun and then ahve a lil girl next to it(ForeverDEAD 19:16, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture with girl 

message: isnt the m1919 a light machine gun?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.71.23.120 (talk) 18:33, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Only the M1919A6 was intended to be used as a light machine gun. -- Thatguy96 (talk) 19:10, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

text: The M1919A6 is a GPMG like the MG42 or MG34. LMGs are weapons like the BAR, BREN, FG-42, M1941 Johnson LMG, etc. LMGs are usually lighter, load 20-round magazines, and are much more mobile than GPMGs. I guess you could call it an LMG, but it would be a stretch. Blamazon (talk) 18:33, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  LMG? 

message: I'm not sure why this weapon is mentioned in the "Civilian Use" section. Corporal Tony Stein wasn't a civilian, he was a Marine. It seems that he was a machinist prior to the war, and that he actually invented this unofficial variant, using machine guns he and other Marines stripped out of wrecked aircraft (which is why the field modified weapons are said to have had such a murderous rate of fire - unlike the M1919A6 it may have inspired, aircraft machine guns did not have rate limiters). . I'll dig for suitable sources on that, unless someone beats me to it (which is more than fine by me). If no-one objects, I'd like to move the Stinger from this section to the "variants and derivatives" section, though the parent weapon of the "Stinger" was an ANM2 aircraft machine gun rather than a 1919. I can't imagine this thing was much fun to fire though...Atypicaloracle (talk) 10:54, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Stinger" 

message: I'd like a rewording of the section that states that the .30cal was phased out after 1943. The twin-mount .30 was standard armament in the SB2C Helldiver and SBD-5 Dauntless until the end of the war. The SB2C even had its original single .50cal exchanged for a twin .30cal before it went into production, and it was used like this until the end of the war. The SBD used the .30cal until the end as well, even though it was mostly in second-line duties. And if I recall correctly, the nose gun on the PBY was a .30 throughout the war, but I may be wrong.
.45Colt 23:21, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "phased out after 1943"? 

message: Dear wikipedians, I have the strong suspicion that the argentine FM M2-20 7.62mm MG used in the FMA IA 58 Pucara is a variant of the M1919 (M2) manufactured locally; not sure if with any differences compared to the Browning. However, after a couple hours browsing the Web, I was unable to locate a single verifiable reference to support my suspicion... Can anyone please help? Thanks & regards, DPdH (talk) 14:24, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: More like it would be a variant of the AN/M2 Browning, either locally-manufactured or modified, as the AN/M2 was lighter and had a higher rate of fire, and was designed for use in aircraft.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.152.104.208 (talk) 13:59, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Argentine variant? 

message: This claim:
 "It was essentially the 1930 Pattern belt-fed Colt–Browning machine gun with a few minor modifications for British use, such as firing from an open bolt, hence prohibiting their use for gun synchronization through a spinning propeller." 
contradicts the installation on the Gloster gladiator, with two fuselage mounted .303 brownings synchronized to fire through the propeller arc.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.192.101.39 (talk) 21:19, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propellar Synchronization? 

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message: Can someone remove this drivel?
"A similar conversion of the M1917 also produced the larger M2 Machine Gun, using the same basic operating principles and layout but firing the much more powerful .50 caliber (12.7mm) ammunition. The M1919 is distinguished by its smaller size and the use of a pierced cheese-grater-like guard around the barrel used on most versions."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.152.104.142 (talk) 20:54, 13 August 2017 (UTC)
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message: The 4th paragraph of the Loading section says, "If the gun was very hot from prolonged firing, the cartridge ready to be fired could be resting in a red-hot barrel, causing the propellant in the cartridge to heat up to the point that it would ignite and fire the cartridge on its own (a cook-off). With each further shot heating the barrel even more, the gun would continue to fire uncontrollably until the ammunition ran out, since depressing the trigger was not what was causing the gun to fire." The Wikipedia article on Cook-off says, "Nitrocellulose, the primary component of modern smokeless powder, has a relatively low autoignition temperature of around 160–170 °C (320–338 °F).[1] Contrary to popular myth, this will not cause the machine gun to "runaway" at cyclic rate of fire (as compared to a slamfire) because each chambered round has to first be brought up to temperature." and the Wikipedia article on Red-short carbon steel says, "Iron or steel, when heated to above 900 °F (460 °C), glows with a red color." 
Should the reference to uncontrollable firing be changed in view of the Cook-off article? 
Should the reference to a red-hot barrel be changed in view of the Red-short article? (i.e., no barrel is ever going to reach 900°F without a torch being involved.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.59.31.12 (talk) 
:No. Barrels can glow red hot from firing. Metal cartridges are very conductive, and will quickly transmit enough heat for the propellant to ignite, causing a runaway cook-off. If the barrel was only just at the ignition temperature, you may still get a single round cook-off, but it may take some time to happen. (Hohum @) 13:07, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  That chambering a round in a hot barrel can result in the gun firing is in the Field Manual for the M1919A4 (FM23-45, under section IX). Doesn't say "red-hot". GraemeLeggett (talk) 20:23, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Asked about dubious information concerning cartridge cook-off.