Talk:List of major crimes in the United Kingdom

message: *For those interested, a WikiProject regarding crime in Great Britain has been proposed. MadMax 19:16, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[User:Lucy-marie/WikiProject British Crime|WikiProject British Crime]]

message: John Bodkin Adams, it seems to me, should not have been placed on this list.  Given that he was acquitted in a court of law, and no evidence has ever been presented in any court, anywhere, of his having murdered 163+ people, to repeat such an accusation here, as though it were proven fact, is highly improper.  I suggest his name be struck from the list, unless someone has decided that an accusation in a published account has the same weight as an acquittal at trial.  Such a conclusion is highly dubious. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 21:35, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A consensus amongst scholars that his trial was mishandled or was an outright miscarriage of justice does not reverse the verdict.  We have to err on the side of caution.  He was acquitted, that is a fact, everything else, no matter how intellectually rigorous, is speculation.  He is not a murderer, and by Wikipedia's standards, he cannot be called a murderer, no matter what anyone thinks. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 15:49, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[John Bodkin Adams]] 

message: When typing in crime in the United Kingdom I was hoping to find a detailed article with statistics on crime, like the crime in the United States article. I don't think a handful of famous criminal incidences really makes for a decent article on "crime in the United Kingdom".--114.77.125.75 (talk) 16:02, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: redirected from "crime in Britain/the united kingdom"

message: The list has more entries for 2006/7 than for the whole of the 19th century. Obviously the 19th century should be expanded, but do so many modern crimes (such as a stabbing or murder of one baby) in an era of saturation media coverage real deserve to be in this list? I'm not saying they are entirely irrelevant, but it makes the list unweildly in my view. Any thoughts?
And should comments in the right hand column be limited? Perhaps to three or four lines? Malick78 (talk) 18:07, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Inclusion criteria?

message: In my view splitting it into headings such as "Murders" and "Spree Killers"" looks horrible, and is not useful. We can have separate lists for murders if necessary... What do others think?
I'm also changing 1800's to 1800s, etc. The latter is universally considered correct, while the former is frequently considered wrong (cf. "1800's general election" - one particular year rather than a decade/century). Malick78 (talk) 21:21, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Headings look bad

message: Some entries are getting excessively long. I cut some down today, but in general I think they should all be just one paragraph, except for very exceptional events which may require two. Usually that should be just for cases which led to changes in the law, I would think.Malick78 (talk) 11:11, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Length of entries getting excessive 

message: Although the "Child Killers/Killings" section comprises 30 entries, a whopping 11 - more than a third - of them have occured within the last ten years (specifically 2007-2014). Considering that under-16s usually make up less than ten percent of homicide victims, and child suspects are even more rare, this looks suspisciously like cases being added simply because they get report. I'm going to remove the Georgia Williams entry, partly because she was 17, but mostly because the case isn't notable for its own page. We should, though, look to reduce the number of recent cases in this section. Nick Cooper (talk) 15:04, 5 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This list is still disproportionately long, and looking at it again I do not think we can justify the inclusion of Joel Smith killings, given that of the two deaths, the step-father was clearly the intended target, and the child killed only because she was a potential witness. This is quite different to other cases in the list, which are largely the deliberate targetting of children. Nick Cooper (talk) 11:56, 26 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recentism 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :List of major crimes in the United Kingdom's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "BBCconvicted":
From Rotherham child sexual exploitation scandal: 
From Derby sex gang: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 14:54, 20 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:List of major crimes in the United Kingdom]] 

message: Rob Knox has been added, but his murder does not really seem to meet the standard of a "major crime." It only has notability by virtue of Knox's acting career, which was obviously unconnected with his death. Tragic though it was, it wasn't particularly different from any other random street killing. I'm going to remove it for now, but it would be useful to get other editors' opinions on it. Nick Cooper (talk) 21:25, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Murder of Rob Knox 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :List of major crimes in the United Kingdom's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "guilty":
From Murder of Alesha MacPhail: 
From Murder of Sarah Payne: 
From Murder of Sophie Lancaster: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 17:22, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:List of major crimes in the United Kingdom]] 

message: I am concerned about some of the summaries of grooming gang articles in this list.
The coverage of grooming gangs on Wikipedia is being insidiously manipulated. My recent article on the Manchester child sex abuse ring was almost immediately hit by a deletion attempt on the basis that "This “ring” was not racially charged", meaning the grooming gang is white. The gang's members are almost certainly non-Muslim. That together with these racial comparisons have opened my eyes to what some editors are doing to Wikipedia.
The word "Muslim" in the opening sentence "A group of Muslim men who committed serious sexual offences against underage teenage girls in Bristol" must go. Maternalistic Lioness (talk) 21:51, 7 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summaries of grooming gangs 

message: Since there were significant WP:BLP violations throughout the article, I have taken the drastic step of simply removing all unreferenced material. Feel free to add back with actual references. FDW777 (talk) 12:10, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced material removed 

message: Would it be possible to add the Ruth Ellis case? 2601:4A:8481:C670:81F0:2067:312B:3DB5 (talk) 05:46, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ruth Ellis 

message: Frauds - esp missing trader fraud; countrfeiting - e.g. the stamps, pound coins; bombings - IRA or otherwise; pollution incidents; fires or mass deaths due to corporate manslaughter seem to be missing. These are major crimes. Gangsters such as the Krays might also make the list. The question hinges over what is major in the UK there is the serious and organizedcrime act - this might be a useful place to start www.gov.uk/government/collections/serious-and-organised-crime-strategy 88.112.31.26 (talk) 05:10, 26 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  major crimes missing