Talk:Wii/Archive 27

message: I was wondering if we can include a section about firmware versions. I'm not going to push the matter but I wanna hear others opinions.--ChibiMrBubbles 20:15, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wii Menu article already has one. The main Wii article is a bit long as it is. PS: the most relevant parts of the firmware information are already contained in the Wii article, in its related sections. Just64helpin 21:09, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Already done. It was originally on the Wii Menu page, but there was discussion on that page about moving it. I just moved it. Zomic_13 21:13, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't recall any discussion on whether the section should be moved to the Wii article. Doing so pushes "Wii" past 60k in size. Just64helpin 21:15, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There was discussion and agreement on the Wii Menu talk page. It really should've happened a while ago, but this is just more reason to move it. Zomic_13 21:17, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A discussion and agreement has to happen on this page as well. Please don't revert until others can join the new discussion. Just64helpin 21:19, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

text: That is an interesting idea (about having a separate page). I would support that (and would be willing to put the page together and format it). Right now the info is pretty hard to read. I think there is justification for its own page. Zomic_13 21:40, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Firmware versions

message: I've recorded a video of two kids playing the Wii at the Wii Experience in Six Flags - :Image:Wii_play.ogg. If the editors of this article want to add it, please do. ALTON .ıl 06:20, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video 

message: 4.23 million + 3.47 million + 2+ million + 138,192 + 6 thousand ~= 10.7+ million.
It should be 9.8+ million if you approximate the Aussie numbers to 100,000 and disregard New Zealand.  So the question is how do we provide a source for this updated figure?  Because clearly just by looking at the numbers and quickly adding them can lead to errors as happened here (whoever did this added the 100,000 as 1 million).  And we can't just use "punch these #s into a calculator" as the source.  But I don't think there is an actual source for this...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.51.125.60 (talk) 18:18, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This can be used to indicate 9.27 million units sold worldwide as of June 2007. --Silver Edge 23:05, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Europe numbers are far behind, AUS/NZ sales are too small to even count in the total. The Americas/Japan/Other configuration makes use of the official Q2/2007 Nintendo report (3.81 Americas/2.95 Japan/2.51 Other) updated with the lastest Media Create/NPD info, thus is the most reliable source we have. So please don't temper with it.--Exukvera 08:52, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No region's sales numbers are too small to include (assuming a reliable source is available). They should not be excluded for that reason, nor should a region's numbers be excluded if they are slightly out of date. A newer figure should be searched for, but the older figure should not be excluded. Zomic_13 18:52, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Xbox 360 outselling Wii every month, what are you smoking? The Wii sold 404K systems just in the UNITED STATES in August (whereas Xbox 360 sold 277K in the US that month) and about 286K in Japan for 690K just for Japan/US. In July, the Wii sold 425K systems just in the United States (compared to 170K for the Xbox 360), and sold about 349K in Japan for a total of 776K just in the US/Japan for July. The Wii has been outselling the Xbox 360 in the US/Canada every month this year except for September (where the Xbox 360 only outsold Wii by about 26K in the US), has outsold Xbox 360 every week since launch in Japan (in fact, the Wii sold more in its first week than Xbox 360 had in 1 year) and we don't know the numbers but we do know that Wii has oustold Xbox 360 in Europe since launch. It's safe to say that the Wii has outsold in worldwide (as of early 2007 it had in fact overtaken Xbox 360 worldwide officially according to Nikkei, a Japanese firm that used official sales numbers from NPD/Media Create/GfK). TJ Spyke 18:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Please sign your posts with ~~~~. Just64helpin 19:08, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually, we do have September NPD numbers. You are right in that Halo 3 has likely outsold Gears of War by now (considering that it took only a week or so for Halo 3 to sell 75% of what GOW has). Source for Nikkei: . I never said anything about Halo 3's numbers, and we have known for almost 2 months that Wii has been ahead using confirmed numbers. TJ Spyke 19:11, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

text: What are you talking about? The reason why it only went up to July for North America is because the report was a coupld of days before the NPD released North American numbers. The Wii lead would be even bigger though since the Wii outsold Xbox 360 in both Canada and the United States. TJ Spyke 19:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

text: What do you mean "faulty" numbers? The numbers are from reliable sources (NPD/Enterbrain {Famitsu}/GfK {European tracking service}). The Wii has been in the lead for over 2 months (this report just confirmed it) and the only people i've seen reject it are Xbox fanboys who hate that the Wii had sold more in 9 months than Xbox 360 had in 21 months. TJ Spyke 19:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sales numbers

message: Does anyone know whatever became of those crazy lawsuits against the Wii? Have they been dropped, or are they still ongoing? Seems odd because the article mentions them like they're all still current events. Nintenboy01 19:52, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lawsuits can sometime last for years. They might still be ongoing. TJ Spyke 00:57, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Green Wellings lawsuit. Was claimed to be filed in 2006, but since then Green Welling have removed all reference to Nintendo and Wii from their web site and the only thing they left was a page where you can request a wrist strap replacement through Nintendo. Any reference to Nintendo or Wii has also been removed from their "Résumé of Cases" which details cases they have won and cases they are fighting for. If Nintendo did settle or even acknowledge Green Wellings in any way, you can bet that it would have been on their site and Green Wellings would have publicized it to the general media. That conclusion may be original research, but what isn't OR is the fact that Green Wellings have removed all traces of Nintendo and only left an application form for Wii wrist strap replacements, which goes straight through to Nintendo JayKeaton 11:02, 13 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Again, more OR, but it looks like the Big N may have reached some confidential settlement or something with Green Wellings. Why I bet they even prompted the development of Wii Strap 4.0, hehe. I do wonder though whatever happened to the other cases... 216.166.78.9 22:55, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lawsuits 

message: Satoru Iwata mentions that the Wii is not a yet a success. Should this be mentioned at the reception, or in another article like his article page? Link for proof:  Magiciandude 18:41, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Around the launch of Wii, Iwata/Nintendo stated that Wii would not be considered a success unless it sold more than GameCube. That is going to happen very soon (in 10 months Wii has sold over half the amount GameCube sold in 71 months). It just sounds like a reiteration of what has already been said, however it is not in the article. It should be mentioned as it is a notable statement. 20:04, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text: It's set to overtake GameCube's sales in Japan and the UK by the end of the year. The region where it may take the longest is the United States since it's where the GameCube did the best (same thing with the N64, I think the US alone accounted for half of the N64's lifetime sales). Worldwide, it looks like the Wii will overtake the GameCube in early 2008 (which is just crazy when you think about it). TJ Spyke 02:55, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this be mentioned in the reception 

message: Someone should update the sales totals.  Here is the link: http://wii.ign.com/articles/820/820098p1.html 72.43.140.148 14:12, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: IGN.com just posted new NPD sales data

message: I thought you would like to see this: . Report from The Sun newspaper of the UK has stated that pensioners up to 103 years of age have been playing the Wii! Of course, I've added that in the demographics section.--Alasdair 06:20, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's interesting. You would not see a 103 year old person playing PS3 or X360. Zomic_13 06:23, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: True, but I don't see why it belongs in the article... So what? LN3000 06:48, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's worth mentioning.  We talk about Nintendo's goal to expand its appeal, and The Sun thought the company's success in this situation to be worth discussing. --Maxamegalon2000 07:06, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, Nintendo has maintained that they want to widen their demographics, and this is certainly one extreme example of the adoption.--Alasdair 07:33, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I think it is definitely worth mentioning. Just this morning Engadget posted an article about the success Wii has had with senior citizens. Read Here Zomic_13 13:27, 14 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Why don't just create a Wii cultural impact with all the information that is not really needed in the article (like using Wii for fitness, ancient people playing games, etc, etc, etc)? -- ReyBrujo 18:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The section on demographics was specifcally created to satisfy WP:LEAD, since editors previously warred in the lead section over whether or not the Wii "competes" with other seventh generation consoles. Just64helpin 18:14, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, a demographics section is well, a section on the type of market it targets, the customer base etc. Since it's here, let's make the best of it.--Alasdair 04:38, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, good find. Maybe we should put in the article. Hey, it also says here that Bat Boy got married to a Vietnamese mud wrestler. --IronMaidenRocks (talk) 12:04, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 103 year old person playing the Wii

message: Hey, i wanted to add this to the external links section. You can watch all Wii Commercials here. I was about to add it and then I saw the message saying I should bring it up on the talk page first, so i am :) Anyway, it's a good resource bc it's hard to find them on youtube or anywhere else. Anyway im adding it, but feel free to take it off if you dont think its a good resource --JasonHanson 16:34, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps they're hard to find because hosting them is a copyright violation.  We don't link to copyright violations. --Maxamegalon2000 17:40, 18 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Which means that they can't be listed here either. TJ Spyke 02:04, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Advertisements most certainly CAN be listed on the talk page JH JayKeaton 07:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I meant here as in Wikipedia. Also, I don't think advertising sites that are committing copyright violations (by hosting copyrighted content without permission) is a good idea on talk pages either. TJ Spyke 03:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wii Commercials

message: That is absurd. The official trademark for Microsoft windows is just "Windows"... perhaps we should also name that article to just "Windows" rather than the already named "Microsoft Windows"? There is no double standards, if Ms windows article is named "Microsoft Windows" although the trademark is only "Windows", then so should this article be named "Nintendo Wii". Im seriously starting to think that some Nintendo representatives are lurring around Wikipedia.--78.86.117.164 01:12, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I move this here since the IP didn't bother to read the note about not replying in the FAQ section. To answer, the reason the article on the Microsoft software isn't at Windows is because its not the primary subject of the name Windows (the only other possible name would be "Windows (software)", which is not a good article name). This is not the case here. The trademark is Wii, that is the common name, and there is nothing else that would use the name. So the article will not be moved. TJ Spyke 01:17, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Infact, let it be called just "wii", people will have harder time finding it. Specially people who still spell it as "we" or "wee".--78.86.117.164 01:24, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That...that made no sense.—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 01:31, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Obviously a minority of people. On the Windows argument, the operating system isn't the only thing in existance that uses that name. Wii, on the other hand, is the only thing that has that name. On top of that, the articles for Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 currently do not include the name of the company that makes those consoles, because the name of the company is not a part of each specific console's official title, just as Nintendo is not an official part of the Wii's name. Disaster KirbyTalk 01:32, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Please click here. Just64helpin 10:10, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: There's currently appears to be a reversion conflict . Which version is the correct one? --Russoc4 17:59, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind, the revert was just an error by the user. Just64helpin 18:11, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry about that. That's what I get when I think I'm only making a small edit (I guess it was an older revision). Sometimes the extra features you think are helping you will get you into trouble. I figured out what I was doing wrong (Twice!). Sorry for the confusion. LN3000 18:12, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which version? 

message: Does anyone else want to experiment with unprotecting this article? The Placebo Effect 16:21, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Every time the page gets unprotected, it gets vandalized pretty quickly (IIRC, it got vandalized less than 10 minutes after being unprotected the last time). The article pretty much has unofficially permanent semi-protection because of that. It's up to an admin, but I would suggest keeping it the way it is. The only people who can't edit are IP's and accounts less than 4 days old. TJ Spyke 23:37, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I guess you're right. Lets try sometime after Christmas, when both Galaxy and Brawl have come out. The Placebo Effect 23:58, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'd remind people that "vandalism" isn't necessarily restricted to edits with negative biases. So after the release of those games, I wouldn't be surprised to see "positive" vandalism; the Nintendo fanboys can vandalize just as much as the Xbox 360 and PS3 fanboys. Nottheking (talk) 22:56, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unprotection 

message: What is the current price on a Wii? I didn't see it in the article, and I thought it might be a good thing to add. BaldurtheGreat 18:47, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: MSRP =$250 The Placebo Effect 19:14, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically it's $249.99 (in the US). I don't think it had dropped in price anywhere yet, so the launch prices (see Wii launch) should still be the current prices. TJ Spyke 05:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe we are meant to avoid listing the price unless the price itself is notable. Otherwise it brings up the issue of trying to update the price everytime it drops aswell as becomes an issue of which countries prices to list. You wouldn't really expect to see the price of something in an encyclopedia. Rekija 03:23, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the pricing's been mentioned in the Wii launch.--Alasdair 11:22, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Useful but not a good idea for Wikipedia. I'm sure people who can type in "wikipedia.com" can type "google.com" just as easily. Epthorn (talk) 13:07, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii Pricing 

message: Not alot of info is posted about this in the article.
For example, it's storage capacity is not mentioned. Is it known?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.110.193.166 (talk) 11:12, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That should be covered at the Nintendo optical discs article. Just64helpin 11:19, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that would serve, though I might suggest, as a MINOR edit, that for the links on the side-bar, that the link for "Wii optical discs" would be better served to direct to that article you mentioned, rather than the "Game Cube Optical Discs" link. Since this is the article for the Wii, I think that it would make sense for the more relevant term link to it. Nottheking (talk) 23:07, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii Optical Disc 

message: A semi-annual Earnings release is scheduled to be released by Nintendo in two weeks (October 25), according to http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/schedule/index.html. Socby19 02:13, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: European sales numbers are so rare (we get monthly US and Canada sales from NPD, and Japanese sales numbers from Media Create), so this is good. Nintendo usually reports sales numbers too (whereas Sony and Microsoft report shipped numbers, claiming them as sales numbers by saying they are sold to retailers). TJ Spyke 02:19, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New system sales figures soon 

message: It should also be said that the system has sold 12 million copies. 10.7 copies bought and 12 million shipped, so altogether the system has sold 22.7 units so far.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.237.50.62 (talk) 21:28, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm reasonably certain the 10.7 million systems bought is included in the 12 million shipped. --Maxamegalon2000 21:48, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: yes, sold is part of shipped. You don't add the two numbers together...I wish... LN3000 22:32, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if they were combined, it would still be 10.7 million sold. Sony likes to inflate their sold numbers by counting systems sold to retailers (i.e. shipped and just sitting in stores), Sony used to also include systems sitting in warehouses and factories in their "sold" number. TJ Spyke 23:43, 13 October 2007 (UTC)

text: What? They've sold ~10.7 million (and that is sold, not shipped). TJ Spyke 02:34, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Units Shipped 

message: Why are all the images on the right hand side? It sort of looks silly having every single image to the extreme right, makes it seem less like an article. JayKeaton 13:35, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Having them on the left causes formatting problems with the section titles. Just64helpin 16:04, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: The first generation of Nintendo Wii controllers are not safe, and have been responsible for broken TVs. Users are playing their favorite game and suddenly the remote strap breaks and flies into the TV, breaking the screen. The Wii wrist strap is too flimsy to handle all the intense motion of the hand.
http://www.wiichat.com/nintendo-wii-articles/6700-nintendo-wii-launch.html
Another common problem that people have is getting carried away. It is posted all over the internet about people hitting things while playing Wii. Users need to remember to keep distance between them and their surroundings.
http://www.wiihaveaproblem.com/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 35.8.239.59 (talk) 20:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I also don't think we need to include this. To the best of my knoweldge there have not been any recent reports of this problem (that article was from last November) Also even if it we were to add it the information should go on the Wii Remote page not here. --70.48.174.138 21:44, 16 October 2007 (UTC)

text: The controllers are perfectly safe. The "first generation" of Wii controllers are no different than current ones. Just because some people were stupid or irresponsible with the controllers does not mean it is in anyway Nintendo's fault. Nor does it warrant being mentioned int he article. -Zomic13 22:16, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. It's the idiots who are throwing their controllers that are at fault, not the controller. The Wii wasn't the first system to have people break stuff because they threw their controllers. Do not blame the Wii Remote because some people are stupid enough to throw their controller as fast as they can and let go of it. TJ Spyke 22:31, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And those idiots are the reason for nintendo to spend big on thicker straps & jackets just to procted themselves Richardson j 02:21, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii remote/user problems 

message: I am proposing a merge discussion on several Wii articles - the discussion to be, however, what to merge and where.
So, here's what I propose...
*WiiConnect24 be merged
*Everybody Votes Channel be merged
*Internet Channel be merged
*Wii Points be merged
*Wii Balance Board be merged
I just don't know where to. WiiConnect24 would probably be best here, while the second and third would obviously go to Wii Channel, but Wii Points would only fit in a Wii Shop Channel article, which became a redirect, and Wii Balance Board would go to Wii Fit, but not everyone agrees. - A Link to the Past (talk) 17:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not think a merge is necessary, nor would it be wise. LN3000 19:45, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, let's see - WiiConnect24 could easily be summed up in this article. Wii Points could make the Wii Shop Channel worthy of being an article. And Wii Balance Board is literally irrelevant outside of Wii Fit, with the exception of its potential implementation outside of Wii Fit. I see little reason why these merges couldn't take place. - A Link to the Past (talk) 20:15, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The main problem would be with current size of the Wii article, which is nearing 60k. Just64helpin 20:22, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Looking at Everybody Votes Channel and Internet Channel, I see nothing that says these are very well-known. One is a revision of the Opera browser, the other is a free download software. Just being its own software doesn't mean it needs an article. Honestly, just because the Wii article is getting big doesn't mean that we should split all of the mechanics apart. - A Link to the Past (talk) 22:27, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose x5 - The articles don't need to be merged. I think EvilRedEye explained it best. -Zomic13 22:39, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Article size should certainly be considered in these types of discussions. I sincerely hope that we veer away from "just because" arguments, as they tend to lead the discussion into an endless cycle. Just64helpin 22:44, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only reason the Wii Balance Board isn't merged is just because. People don't talk about the Wii Balance Board without talking about WiiFit, so its notability is exclusive to WiiFit. If it actually becomes notable outside of this one game, then it can be standalone, but it's not. - A Link to the Past (talk) 00:00, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

text: While I do understand the reasoning behind these merge proposals, given what I've witnessed from aggressive merges in the past, I would prefer to get a sense of what the intended merged articles are going to look like before I make a recommendation. Dancter 05:33, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose - per EvilRedEye's explanation. LN3000 01:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge discussion 

message: The Wii may or may not be in the lead, but the link does not prove that it ever was.
The link uses sales up to July, and then Japan-only August sales.
You can't for any period of time only count one region, especially not the Wii's best region and the Xbox 360's worst region.  A new link needs to be provided or the statement removed.
I tried explaining this in sales numbers, but those clowns have little to no idea how this works. Don't tell me the Wii also outsold the Xbox 360 in the US/Canada(in August), post a link.  Maybe they will eventually post a link, but I got tired of waiting.
It bothers me that this can get posted on Wikipedia without proper references.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.165.59.39 (talk) 19:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First off, insulting me and others will not help your case. Second, the Wii outsold the Xbox 360 in August and you can check any site that posts NPD numbers: 34,400-26,700 in Canada and 403,600-277,000 in the US ( ). TJ Spyke 19:48, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, I always updated the sales numbers with links. I gave up when somebody decided to use Nintendo financial reports (which uses sold-to-retailers, i.e. shipped numbers) insetead. TJ Spyke 19:49, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Ah, you are a troll (or at least acting like one). That explains it (I am not going to dignify your comments about the systems by replying to them). I have shown you PROOF that the Wii is kicking Sony and Microsoft's ass and you are still in denial. TJ Spyke 20:44, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii Lead Incorrect 

message: I see that my edit changing the sold to shipped has been reverted. This is one of those situations in which you wish you could change your edit summary. When I said that the source said shipped, I was going off of memory which was apparently wrong, however, I have an explanation. Over at Talk: History of video game consoles (seventh generation) it was explained to me very clearly that on financial reports, sold means shipped. Since it was so clear I will copy it to here: 
I got these two things mixed up in my mind and said that the source said shipped. This comment is the reason that I changed the word sold to shipped in the sales table and the infobox. I also added the units sold parameter since both the PS3 and Xbox 360 articles use both. These three articles should probably be kept as similar as possible since a lot of people compare the three consoles through the articles. Also, the History of video game consoles (seventh generation) article uses the 13.17 number as a units shipped number(because of the comment by MysteriousMystery). That article should be kept in accordance with this article and since I felt that MysteriousMystery was right, I thought I should change this article rather than that one. I will wait until tomorrow for comments before changing the article again (unless the discussion goes in favor of change).--Kyle(talk) 03:52, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My short two cents, the articles should use actual sold numbers only and not the shipped/sold-to-retailer numbers. TJ Spyke 03:59, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say that it should have both since the shipped numbers are the most verifiable from the company and the sold numbers are equally important (though less likely to be accurate since there are so many different numbers out there).--Kyle(talk) 04:04, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

text: We would have to make it clear which is which. Off topic, but I find it funny that Microsoft has almost 4 million Xbox 360 systems sitting on store shelves unsold (about 9 million sold and about 13 million shipped). TJ Spyke 04:13, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I completely agree. It is a little sad, though not quite that bad since the 9 million is from july and 13.4 is from september, but still, pretty funny--Kyle(talk) 04:30, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shipped vs Sold 

message: I tried to add a reference to the Wii modchips, but this was instantly removed by Lamename3000 without him mentioning any reason. Is this some official stance? And if so, why is that? There is a page about modchips, and there are a specific page listing Wii modchips - interlinking to these seems correct, not to mention that modchipping these devices definitely is happening, always have been happing, and thus should be mentioned in an all-encompassing encyclopedia. Stolsvik 10:55, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It may warrant a subsection under "Hardware", if sourced, but not its own main section. Just64helpin 11:21, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  So what do you mean by sourcing in this context?! I've only put in intrawiki links, pointing to other Wikipedia articles (the modchip and List of Wii modchips). I will add the exact same sentences into a subsection of hardware, as you describe, and await your reference to what would be considered as "sourcing" in this regard. These actions seems like Nintendo policing, trying desperately to put up arbitrary hurdles to hinder the modchip references to be public.  Stolsvik 11:57, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see Wikipedia:Citing sources. Wikipedia cannot be used as a source for itself. Just64helpin 12:07, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Modchips

message: Anamorphic refers to the way a digital video is transferred from film and has nothing to do with how a video game console displays an image.  Nothing in reference #50 says anything about "anamorphic widescreen," only that the Wii is capable of 480p resolution through component cables.  The reference to "anamorphic" is doubly improper considering that the Wii is not capable of playing DVD video.  This should be removed immediately.  KyuzoGator 04:48, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wii, when set to progressive mode, outputs 640x480p video (a 4:3 aspect ratio). If you set the Wii to widescreen mode, it will still output in that resolution, but will condense the image horizontally so that it appears correct when you set your widescreen TV to stretch the image to the full screen. This technique is called anamorphic widescreen, and is mentioned in the reference. Tmdean 07:30, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, I saw that someone changed the reference that you're referring to. You're right; the original reference didn't say anything about anamorphic widescreen. Tmdean 07:33, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually (and yes I'm nitpicking) the Wii is displaying anamorphic image.  If you connect a Wii to a standard 4:3 tv while the widescreen mode is active, you will see a bunch of very thin people standing on the screen.  The image is anamorphic (that is, squeezed horizontally).    My PS2 has a similar function for certain games.  -  Theaveng (talk) 14:57, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If the Wii is set to Widescreen and ED/HD TV in the Television Settings, games that support it will output 720x480p video. That's not anamorphic widescreen anymore. ZueriHB (talk) 06:30, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Anamorphic Widescreen" Improper Usage 

message: Hello,
I noticed that the article does not mention the Check Mii Out channel, and I am unable to edit it. Just letting you guys know.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.78.148.20 (talk) 22:41, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually it does, twice. Just64helpin 22:45, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Check Mii Out 

message: Hello, I am a non-admin, but this article has Full Protection on it, and I think I know better.
The IPA did not have a Japanese pronunciation, which I think is /ɰii/ (quoted here without pitch instructions because I do not know the Japanese pitch accent), not /ˈwiː/ as in English.
... Consensus or not, you always forget that the Wii is a Japanese console ...
Llamagnu (talk) 15:33, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is only semi-protected (meaning IP's and accounts less than 4 days old can't edit it). When Iwata talked at E3 this year, he said "Wii" and he pronounced it the same way, just with an accent. Accents can vary in the same country though.
I think you are getting way too anal if you want to argue about the pronunciation of "Wii".  Just watch this Wii commercial http://wii.nintendo.com/wiicommercials_index.jsp
It's not rocket surgery.
Asher196 (talk) 02:42, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation Issues 

message: Has Wii received any awards? as far as i know, it is nominated in the Media Arts Plaza awards. check http://plaza.bunka.go.jp/open/works.html for confirmation (yes, that's a Japanese page). Any other info for Wii's awards will be valuable info too. Boshiaki (talk) 18:02, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Awards are noted in the "Reception" section. Just64helpin (talk) 18:05, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards 

message: "AOSS support was discretely added in firmware update 3.0."
Does this mean AOSS support was separately added (discretely) or quietly added (discreetly)? The reference cited would suggest the second spelling. --121.45.240.86 (talk) 00:14, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misspelling of discreetly? 

message: Is it possible to organise Virtual Console games into their own respective console channels? I.e. N64 games into an N64 channel; SNES games into a SNES channel; etc. I've been told "it's not" on previous discussion boards, but the first image on the "Wii Menu" article shows both an N64 and NES channel. What's the story? --Dark_Wolf101 (talk) 21:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Those are probably the system logos that fade in and out along with the game's title.  It is not possible to group VC titles together...yet.  Given Nintendo's recent opinion that rather than support external HDD storage, people should delete and re-download games, I doubt we'll be seeing this kind of space-saving feature anytime soon.  I'd love to be pleasantly wrong though. --Billdorr (talk) 21:59, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Virtual Console Channels! 

message: * Are there any region codes on the games? Can European consoles play US-American/Japanese games, beside the NTSC/PAL topic?--Nemissimo (talk) 13:21, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the games are region-locked. Ixistant (talk) 17:54, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.--Nemissimo (talk) 19:29, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Regioncodes?

message: The whole article of the wii doesn't state anything about how you move and it moves somebody PLEASE edit that! Littleperson 4:58pm eastern daylight army time:16:58  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Littleperson (talk • contribs) 21:59, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Er, what? What moves? TJ Spyke 22:36, 26 November 2007 (UTC)

text: See also the Wii Remote article, which the "Wii Remote" section summarizes. Just64helpin (talk) 23:01, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nintendo Wii missing point 

message: I would like to have my site http://www.newstendo.com added to the unofficial Wii links. We are officially recognized by Nintendo and several third parties as press and as such are provided product to review and access to their press servers and events. We often post exclusive news stories, reviews and editorials making this site is a valuable Wii resource.
Hokahey (talk) 21:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Many sites are granted access to Nintendo's press site (in fact anyone can gain access via the guest account). Nothing against you or your site, but there are so many Nintendo new sites out there. -Zomic13 (talk) 23:06, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Regardless, I have made the request and I believe the site provides valuable Wii resources that so many Nintendo sites don't offer. My point about the press access was to make clear my position, which goes well beyond simple access to Nintendo's press site. I don't believe you've come to a fair conclusion based on your response. We also have access to many third parties and receive documentation and product from them to review and discuss. I'd be curious to hear why the site can't be added to the official links beyond general statements about access to Nintendo's press site and the number of sites people have created dedicated to Nintendo.
Hokahey (talk) 23:28, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess we're just thinking there are dozens of other sites in similar positions, and it would be inappropriate to link to all of them. You haven't really expressed what makes yours significantly more relevant than any other. --Maxamegalon2000 04:16, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I think I came to a perfectly fair conclusion, especially based on the information you originally provided. You only mentioned that you have Nintendo press room access, get free stuff, and posting new stories. To me that sounds like most Nintendo news sites. As Maxamegalon2000 stated, we need to know something that makes your website different from the many other Nintendo news websites out there. Having Nintendo Press Access and and receiving free stuff from game developers is pretty sweet, but its nothing that separates your website from the rest. This is nothing personal against you or your website. -Zomic13 (talk) 05:06, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Thanks for your feedback and polite responses. The site provides a number of exclusive features, but perhaps not enough to seperate it from the rest of the pack yet. I'll revisit this topic in the coming months as we continue to ramp up and become richer in content. Thanks again for taking the time to explain your thoughts on this.
Hokahey (talk) 18:32, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unofficial Links 

message: Hi, What is the maximum screen size that the Wii can handle before the controllers stop working properly?
I have a projector at home and I was wondering if the Wii would work for a really big screen.
Thanks  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cribe (talk • contribs) 22:15, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't really matter, it just depends how far back you stand and where you put the sensor bar. If you have a REALLY BIG projection surface, put it around 2 feet down or up from the center. That simulates a 40-50 in TV. If you are standing way back, put it around 10-15 feet away from where you are standing (but equally off center. If the cord is too short, buy one of those 3rd party wireless ones. Luigi6138 (talk) 22:29, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wii Remote pointer works a little better on smaller screens than it does on large ones.  I can use it just fine on my 61-inch TV, but some of my friends have had trouble initially and had to adjust.  A projector would probably be even bigger, but you should be fine.  I'd be more worried about burning out the projector bulb, playing video games for hours on end.  Useight (talk) 22:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

text: The size of the TV is irrelevant, as movement tracking is done independently of the TV. The limiting factor is the sensor bar, as you can't be more than ~10 feet away. People have played Wii on movie theater screens. -Zomic13 (talk) 22:58, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Wii remote can be used up to approximately 16 feet from the screen.  I have a friend who projects his screen on the wall of his garage; something like 8x10 feet, and the Wii remote works fine.
Asher196 (talk) 23:03, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As mentioned in the previous comments, the size of the screen is irrelevant. Rather, cursor positioning is based upon the camera in the Wii remote determining where it's pointing as relevant to the sensor bar. All that's necessary is to back far enough away, and place the bar properly, so that you can point the remote to all corners and still have it pick up the sensor bar. As the sensor bar is actually just a bar of infrared-emitting lights, It's actually possible to do without, and use an alternative source; I'd seen examples of even candles being used... Though obviously, that's not a very good idea in practice, particularly with a console so prone to inciting accidents... Nottheking (talk) 23:18, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maximum screen size that can be used ?? 

message: The article currently states, "A Nintendo spokesperson has announced that the company plans to release a version of the console with DVD-Video playback capabilities in 2007."  Has that happened?  I did not notice any major announcements in game magazines or on TV and I was curious if that statement has proven accurate or if it has not in fact come into fruition.  In either sense, we should update it accordingly.  Best, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 22:33, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it hasn't. Nintendo Power hasn't announced anything either. I would personally say 2008 at earliest. Luigi6138 (talk) 22:36, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They did update that comment to state that it will not be happening soon, as they will just be focusing on getting regular systems out for sale. -Zomic13 (talk) 22:56, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So, any idea or source on if it will still happen or has the idea been squashed for North America?  By the way, thank you for the fast replies!  Sincerely, --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 23:12, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the DVD-playback Wii was only announced for Japan. So, if it is ever announced for North America, then it won't be out for a while. -Zomic13 (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 05:14, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should go ahead and mend the article just to say that dvd playback is planned in the future and i think i read that sonic solutions would be providing it, we could include that.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ngates87 (talk • contribs) 14:43, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No. We only do that once it is confirmed, and once that we all see that Sonic is providing it. Luigi6138 (talk) 22:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

text: It's already in the article and sourced: Wii#Hardware (last paragraph). TJ Spyke 22:36, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see a source from 2006 in the Hardware section.  Is that the one you mean?  If so, do we have any from 2007?  Thanks!  --Le Grand Roi des CitrouillesTally-ho! 06:21, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: DVD Playback?

message: I propose we add the Wii Classic Controller to the "controller input" section of the infobox. Some people disagree and have reverted me, but I don't understand the reason. It IS a controller. Nintendo's Wii site seems to agree with me. http://wii.nintendo.com/controller.jsp
Asher196 04:28, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We really should restrict that form to things that connect independently and directly to the console. Expansions and accessories should not be confused with the main controllers. BTW, the name is just "Classic Controller", which redirects to the section in the Wii Remote article, anyway. Just64helpin 12:12, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The infobox says "controller input" and that is exactly what the Classic Controller provides.  I don't see a distinction.  Asher196 16:41, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't list every add-on since the list would be big: Nunchuk, Classic Controller, Wii Zapper, Wii Balance Board, Wii Wheel. And those are just first party ones. There are also the USB mics from Disney Interactive and Electronic Arts, the dance pad from Konami, and the guitar from Activision to name some. TJ Spyke 23:07, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classic Controller 

message: There is a reference to Jeff Gerstmann as a gamespot editor, it should maybe now read "former"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.116.46.162 (talk) 04:30, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I updated it. Just64helpin 12:27, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jeff Gerstmann 

message: I've never actually been able to test it myself, but I was wondering, do multi-disc GCN games like Resident Evil 4 still work fine on the Wii when you need to swap discs? Nintenboy01 02:04, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would guess the answer to that question is yes. The Wii does not complain (or notice) if the disk of a running game is ejected. Emoticon 20:52, 3 December 2007 (UTC)

text: One game that has multiple Discs on the GCN is Tales of Symphonia, which actually I played on my Wii the other day. It works just fine. If you hit the eject button while a GCN game is in, it just asks you to close the console lid, which is pretty funny. Is there a section regarding multiple disc games on the Wii? FlamingZelda (talk) 09:32, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multi-Disc Games 

message: The article states "Hackers have also reprogrammed the Wii Remote to control devices unrelated to the console through Wii homebrew."
The reference for the above is a newspaper article and I'm certain it's a case of lazy journalism as the remote is not reprogrammed. As I understand it, a driver is used on a computer which communicates with the remote (which is a bluetooth device that follows the HID standard). Then, either the driver itself or some software that interfaces with the driver, interprets the data received.
Does anyone have a better source that shows that the remote itself is reprogrammed? Hydrostatic (talk) 13:06, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Reprogramming sounds very cliché, and it's unlikely. Luigi6138 (talk) 21:13, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I changed "reprogrammed" to "used" and left the source as it is. That newspaper article clearly isn't the most reliable source, but it's good enough right now. I'll try to find something better later. Hydrostatic (talk) 03:02, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reprogramming the Wii Remote? 

message: Does anyone know the origin of the great music on the commercials? Chris (talk) 01:17, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's mentioned in the "Demographic" subsection. Just64helpin (talk) 01:37, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Music

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Oppose. I'll just copy-paste a summary of what was discussed last time:
:The official name is "Wii". GameCube is officially "Nintendo GameCube", DS is officially "Nintendo DS", and so on. You don't see the PlayStation 3 article called "Sony PlayStation 3". Thus far, Nintendo has not attached their company name to the console's moniker and not a single Nintendo employee has referred to it as the "Nintendo Wii". "Wii" is far less ambiguous when alone than "64" or "DS", and most importantly Nintendo marketing hasn't used that term (see official webpage). Nintendo have been very specific in interviews and at E3 2006 that there is no such title as "Nintendo Wii", there's just "Wii". It is a change for Nintendo but not that big of a change for conusmers. Most people call the Nintendo GameCube just "GameCube", for example. From the Nintendo Style Guide distributed with their E3 Press Kit, "It is simply Wii, not Nintendo Wii." That's pretty cut and dried. Just64helpin (talk) 22:39, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: The link in the sidebar under media for Wii Optical Disc and  Nintendo GameCube Game Disc should both link to Nintendo optical discs
151.203.14.176 (talk) 02:46, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nintendo optical discs

message: We now have a pop culture section again. What's the consensus for this? Just64helpin (talk) 23:36, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If it had more examples, I'd feel better about it, but if it all pertains to a single episode of South Park, well…—Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ (talk • contribs) 23:50, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

text: The user that created the section restored it. Twice. Just64helpin (talk) 12:47, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ｌｏｖｅはドコ？ makes a point but Nintendo has praised the South Park episodes and made references in their marketing of the Wii. Maybe it should be a subsection in the article - Mr.NorCal55 (talk) 08:04, 16 December 2007 (UTC)

text: The info added was apparently taken directly from the Go God Go article, and lacks direct citations. Nintendo's response to the episode is more relevant in "Go God Go" than here, and we don't really need a plot summary in "Wii" if the Go God Go article exists. Just64helpin (talk) 12:24, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Pop culture" section 

message: A whole bunch of new Wii information here and here. 
*Software tie-ratio - 3.4 attach rate overall
*  Average Wii player is 29 years old. 71.123.221.158 (talk) 06:31, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wii info

message: When listing new games representing Nintendo's flagship franchises, there is The Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Mario, Animal Crossing, Pokémon, Super Smash Bros., Mario Kart and Fire Emblem. Isn't Mario Kart a part of the Mario franchise? If it is it's own franchise (which I don't think it is) then wouldn't you have to list the Mario Party, Mario Strikers, Paper Mario, and other Mario Sport games for the Wii too?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thegargoylevine (talk • contribs) 03:40, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Altered text to "New games representing Nintendo's flagship franchises, including The Legend of Zelda, Metroid, Mario (and spin-offs), Animal Crossing, Pokémon, Super Smash Bros., and Fire Emblem, have been released, or are in development for the Wii." Sound good? clicketyclickyaketyyak 18:26, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor Problem 

message: (To explain my edit...) One cannot add figures signifying 'sales to consumers' to figures signifying 'sales to retailers'. In Nintendo's financial statements, they list the latter. NDP Group, Enterbrain, and GfK report the former. I've renamed "sales" to "shipped" in the article so as to avoid further confusion.
Either we can switch the listings over to "sold" (as in sold to consumers) or we can keep it as shipped, but if we keep it as shipped, then the information cannot be updated until Nintendo releases its next financial statement. clicketyclickyaketyyak 18:21, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It used to be sold, but then some people insisted on using Nintendo's annual financial listings (which uses shipped numbers, which are sold to retailers and not consumers). TJ Spyke 18:58, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I see. I also see there was an inconclusive discussion previously on whether to use both shipped and sold numbers. It doesn't bother me one bit either way as long as it is clear that the two numbers (# shipped, # sold) cannot be added together to make some sort of hybrid sales total. The only thing I insist on is that, even though in Nintendo's financial report they say "sold" (implied: to retailers), we should make it clear in the article by calling it "shipped". Does that seem reasonable? As for the number of Wiis 'actually' sold, that can easily be obtained and listed if there is some  sort of consensus that it should be included. clicketyclickyaketyyak 22:09, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  As long as the chosen word isn't capitalized, I have no problem with it. Just64helpin (talk) 22:14, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  hahah, good sport. :oP clicketyclickyaketyyak 01:12, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii sales 

message: The connection between the wii remote and the computer has been listed under the "user modifications" section of the article. In fact, neither the Wii nor the remote need to be modified to connect the wii remote to the computer.
81.132.55.8 (talk) 15:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed the section title back to "Hacking", which is more suitable for the content. Just64helpin (talk) 17:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

text: I changed the "Hacking" subsection to "User Modification", and was wondering which everyone thought was better? Response would be much obliged. Burner0718 (talk) 21:50, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

text: User modification sounds much more encyclopedic. However you should probably change the first instance of "hacking" to "modified by users". .:Alex:. 22:01, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So linking to hacking is appropiate, but using the word "hacking" is not? BTW, "modification" should not be capitalized, per WP:MSH. Just64helpin (talk) 22:27, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a tough one.  I did a Google search of "Wii hacking" and got 1.2 million hits.  A search of "Wii modification" got 400,000+ hits.  "Hacking" seems to be the preferred term, but "modification" sounds more encyclopedic.  I don't know if this helps at all.Asher196 (talk) 22:49, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well keep the hacking within the section. I still think User modification is much more encyclopedic and encompassing term. .:Alex:. 23:03, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

text: To clarify, the entire subsection was originally created as "Hacking". The title was only recently changed to "User modification". Just64helpin (talk) 00:47, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  User modification / Hacking 

message: How do you find out your friend code for the Wii.--DarkFierceDeityLink 02:21, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure this is answered in the Wii instruction booklet. Go to the Wii Message Board (the icon on the bottom right that looks like an envelope), click on Create message (the second icon on the bottom left that looks like a pencil and piece of paper), click on Address Book, and it will list your Wii Number. TJ Spyke 02:29, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Friend codes 

message: I have found a newly-created, poorly written article about a Wii photo channel 1.1. I'm not sure if it exist, however if it does, do you guys think it is approriate to merge it into this article? --Kannie | talk 16:52, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That should logically be merged to the Wii Menu article, since 1.1 is just an upgrade for the Photo Channel. Just64helpin (talk) 17:10, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Merge it. RC-0722 (talk) 17:56, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Easy decision IMO, merge. Nothing more than a minor update to the Photo Channel (not a very popular one from what i've seen on messagboards since it replaces the popular and common MP3 support in favor of the AAC format). TJ Spyke 23:00, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Wii photo channel 1.1" now redirects to the Wii Menu article. Just64helpin (talk) 22:25, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 

message: I remember Nintendo said the Wii would come out in several different colors, E3 05 or 06 and I also saw a section on it here is it still going to happen--24.107.130.109 (talk) 01:52, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nintendo later said that they won't release new colors until demand goes down, and that doesn't look like it's gonna happen anytime soon. TJ Spyke 01:58, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Different Colors? 

message: "Amazon.com sold Nintendo Wii systems at approximately 17 per second when they were in stock."--Svetovid (talk) 01:05, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amazon facts 

message: http://us.codejunkies.com/Products/Wii-Pistol__Wii16.aspx. --DarkFierceDeityLink 03:27, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This should be brought up on the Wii Remote page. If this is considered notiable enough to add it would go there. --70.48.172.165 (talk) 03:30, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think every third part accessory needs to be noted. TJ Spyke 04:04, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii Pistol 

message: Section 2.3 says that the firmware update rendered some consoles completely unusable; I was one of the ones to get the 110213 error, complete with free replacement, but my console was still usable... all it did was keep me from using any online features (i.e., Shop Channel).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.61.246.149 (talk) 21:00, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Completely unusable? 

message: "A distinguishing feature of the console is its wireless controller, the Wii Remote, which can be used as a handheld pointing device and can detect acceleration in three dimensions. Another is WiiConnect24, which enables it to receive messages and updates over the Internet while in standby mode."
Is WiiConnect24 really worthy of being mentioned as a key feature of the console in the second paragraph of the article. Seems like a pretty small thing to me. If I had to select distinguishing feature of the Wii, apart from the Wii Remote, it would be the Virtual Console service. 211.30.178.132 (talk) 06:12, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether WiiConnect24 is a key feature is a different question from whether it is a distinguishing feature. --Maxamegalon2000 06:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

text: WiiConnect24 is indeed both a key feature and a distinguishing feature. This is because WiiConnect24 lets the system have access to the internet even when the system is in standby mode. It also connects to Nintendo's servers, making it different, distinguishing it, from other console internet services. FlamingZelda (talk) 09:30, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Perhaps you just aren't familiar with the term "distinguishing."  I'll give you a short definition: Constituting difference, or distinction from everything else. Since the X-Box 360 and Playstation 3 do not have this feature, it is therefore a distinguishing feature.  I hope this clears up any confusion.----Asher196 (talk) 05:03, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. That's what I was trying to say. It is by denotation of the word "distinguishing" exactly that. FlamingZelda (talk) 05:31, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

text: It was one of the first things about the system that Nintendo hyped, and it is very notable. I think it's fine the way it is. TJ Spyke 22:47, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Distinguishing Features

message: As of Sept 30th 07 was 3 months ago,it should have been updated, the X360 has been updated to Jan 08 but nither the Wii or PS3 sales have been updated. Both say "As of September 30th 2007", while the 360 is "As of Jan 02 2008", I concer that they both should be updated but I  cannot find it on Nintendo's (Or Sony's for the PS3) sales fiques. This doesnt count the Black Friday sales or the recent surge for both in Japan. Ive attempted to find it other places on other sites but they are all for late 06' and early 07'. This has been bugging me, as Peter Griffon says You know what relly grinds my gears Lol. I don;t got time to search all the pages so some Wiki nerd (Jokking!) can search  hard or listen to the news for the new sales figures. 'THANKS' Mr.Deathhawk (talk) 23:33, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We are waiting for reliable numbers. There will be a new set in March so, unless there is a reliable source giving them before, we will wait. -- ReyBrujo (talk) 00:12, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: NPD and Enterbrain release reliable sales data every month.  What's the problem? 72.43.140.178 (talk) 21:56, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They only release monthly data, not LTD. I used to manually update the number using sold numbers, but they people started switching it over to shipped numbers and I just gave up. I could switch back, but it will require me to search for 6+ months worth of sales. TJ Spyke 22:06, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the explanation TJ Spyke.  Why are people being so weird with the Wii sales data? 72.43.140.248 (talk) 18:30, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Up to date number of Wii's sold? 

message: The new wii consoles sold during the 2007 holiday season ship with clear rubberized 'jackets' for the wii remotes. The new version of wii play, which is bundled with a wii remote, also comes with this rubberized jacket. The wii firmware has also been updated to remind users to use these jackets to reduce the possibility of damage to their television sets as well as damage to the remotes themselves.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bdbry (talk • contribs) 08:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The jackets have a section in the Wii Remote article. Are they not mentioned in the main article then? EvilRedEye (talk) 15:53, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The jacket is mentioned in the "Wii Remote" section of the Wii article. Just64helpin (talk) 17:05, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  jackets 

message: Not sure if it's notable for inclusion, but here's a neat little study. MahangaTalk 17:57, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is notable because it was covered by reliable media, but I am not sure it belongs to this article. Maybe another article like "Therapeutic use of Wii", but not this one. -- ReyBrujo (talk) 03:48, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Surgeons 'are better after playing Nintendo Wii'

message: I think the Wii article needs full prtoection. It seems to get vandalised regulary.Like this morning for example, anyone who read the article at about 9.30 will know what I mean, thankfully its now been tided up. However i think it needs full protection, at least for a period of a month or so. Then we can see if any vandalism is attempted again.  
Gartheknight (talk) 09:52, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Wii article needs full protection