Talk:Saw III/Archive 1

message: The Saw II article has a separate article for the soundtrack listing. Should we do the same with Saw III, or merge Saw II's soundtrack listing back into the main article? --KittyCollier 15:06, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soundtrack  

message: Why is the whole movie given away in the plot section? After some research, that whole section was taken from moviespoilers.com. Can we please get something more concise and less revealing?
:And make it less than 21 paragraphs? --KittyCollier 02:41, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot Section 

message: — JIP | Talk 06:12, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That was a different debate, to be found here. I am investigating the problem. Physchim62 (talk) 13:37, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

text: The article as it stood was a recreation of deleted material, and also partially in violation of the copyright of the Internet Movie Database. Any future article should rely on verifiable sources and also respect the copyright of those sources. Physchim62 (talk) 14:31, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For example, this more recent edit. Physchim62 (talk) 20:06, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AfD result 

message: I keep trying to delete this guys edits on the Saw 3 page, he keeps posting false actors on purpose and then goes to IMDB and tells everyone about it. Lock the Saw 3 page or somthing.
 
Your talking about me, but I wasn't editing. I looked at Saw III at wikipedia and it said other actors names like kevin bacon or anne heche, I thought it was real, so I told imdb. But then they told me that you can edit on the page, so I didn't know. But alot of poeple are editing and I think thats dumb.
Hey! Guy up there (not the person who started "Guy keeps editing Saw 3")! Judging from your horrible grammatical and spelling mistakes, I don't think you should edit Wikipedia's articles at all.--david136a 10:48, 28 October 2006 (EST)
:Judging from your horrible inability to  Assume Good Faith and your ability to  Bite The Newcomers, you should not be on Wikipedia either.  Just because the "Guy up there" made a mistake doesn't mean you should bite his head off.  All he wanted to do was improve Wikipedia a little bit, just like you and I.  I bet you scared him off now =(  SuperDT 00:30, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guy keeps Editing Saw 3 

message: Gregg Hoffman has unfortunately passed, this last december. He will not be producing. The prodcers, who have been repeatedly deleted from here for some reason, are listed on IMDB for reference.
Also I cannot find anything confirming Shawnee Smith or Donnie Wahlberg will be in Saw III, seems to be just speculation at the moment. The rest of the info on this page is confirmed and referenced. --Fxer 05:12, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Producers & Cast 

message: On his wiki page  in his flmography list it has saw 3 listed. I haven't heard anything about this from anywhere!
:Just some simple vandalism, removed. --Fxer 16:52, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kevin Bacon? 

message: Although I liked the three finger fan poster more than the current, neither of them is official as the darker one is just a copy of the earlier cover. I think we should keep it blank for now. Garglebutt / (talk) 09:13, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poster 

message: Can someone please tell me where they found this information, notably the plot points concerning the warehouse and Amanda's betrayal of Jigsaw? I've searched all over and I can't find them, and I'm willing to bet they are just fan speculation.--CyberGhostface 00:09, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources? 

message: Since people keep on posting unsourced and probably false information, I've temporarily put a block on the page.--CyberGhostface 21:20, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protection 

message: Considering the vandalism on this page from before, unless you post legit sources to plot information I will revert it.--CyberGhostface 03:15, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please forgive me if I don't believe the words of a thirteen year old with no sources who calls people 'bum head'. Just because two kids post false information doesn't make that false information any truer if one person posted it. Show me the website or stop wasting my time. And I 'better' believe you? Or what? You'll tell your mommy?--CyberGhostface 02:46, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

text: No, but Cig has called me names before so look into that before you start making accusations. And I've lost my patience with him a long time ago. He has been warned before about this but he keeps on persisting.--CyberGhostface 19:11, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've told you before, if you sink to their level you come across as juvenile as them. How do we know that just because you can edit better you aren't the same age? Your volatile outbursts seem to suggest teenage hormones. Plus they have never said they are male. (Pally01 07:52, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm 17 years old. They are 13. Four years difference. And although I may have 'volatile outbursts' I don't vandalize the pages repeatedly like these two kids have done. And how the hell does them not being male change anything?--CyberGhostface 10:41, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 1) Some people may take offence at being called 'he' rather than 'she'. Best sticking to 'they' so as not to antagonise them. 2) Thanks, I can count. 3) There are people around better acquainted with Wikipedia to try and control vandals than either you or me. This user calling someone a name and you calling them a name makes you no better than they are. The fact that you can't see that shows that for a 17 year you may as well be 13. (Pally01 13:24, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 1.) What, so someone can call people idiot and bumhead and yet gets offended because someone mixes up their gender? 2.) You're welcome. 3.) Please stop with the condescending bullshit. You haven't done anything at all to cigamagic and his friends when they act out of line, yet when I respond, you come down on me like a sack of bricks. And considering they fill wikipedia with vandalism and blatantly false information, I can safely say I am better than them.--CyberGhostface 19:21, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

text: 1.I'm not going to look the other way. I tried to be reasonable at first but after a while you just lose patience. 3. I'm sorry for for acting rudely to you before. I'll try to tone down my posts in the future.--CyberGhostface 00:48, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To be fair we shouldn't be arguing with each other, there is common 'enemy'. Maybe we're a Good Cop-Bad Cop partnership...... (Pally01 00:52, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: I've removed this actor from the case as the Bloody Disgusting link goes nowhere. This is nothing to do with the "Unofficial" Website that Cigammagicwizard found info on as I think the "Unofficial" bit proves how seriously we can take that bit of news. (Pally01 07:52, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that if anybody is going to remove Donnie Wahlberg then they should provide a link that now says he is NOT going to be in it. (Pally01 14:09, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Donnie Wahlberg 

message: Okay folks it seems we're having a problem as to when this thing is coming out...the next person who edits, please give a source to clear up confusion.--CyberGhostface 02:58, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Date 

message: Stop adding Carey Elwes to the cast list. Until theres an official annoucement hes not going to be in Saw 3.Nimrod1234 03:09, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dr.Gordon 

message: since they wont let me edit the page here is a picture of the crucifix trap for anyone who could edit the page hopefully it will end up there
<a href="http://s99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/gamexovxer/?action=view¤t=5-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l319/gamexovxer/5-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting"></a>
:We have enough pictures already and that one isn't that good to begin with.--CyberGhostface 14:36, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  picture 

message: It says under the "Ice Shower" that the ice shower is a nod to Elizabeth Bathory. How is it a nod to Elizabeth Bathory?--Mullon 13:03, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Ice Shower 

message: I've found Troy's trap online thanks to the great people at the Saw 3 forums!<BR>I'm about to post a link for you all to see. Shame it's such bad quality!<BR> ViperBlade Talk!! 11:55, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'VE FOUND TROY'S TRAP! 

message: I edited a few things involving the traps. A few were grammatical errors, but I completely erased the one about Lynn seeing the reverse bear-trap in action. It seemed out of place to me because we've already seen it, and because it's not actually being used on anyone.<BR>I also changed the section about Troy's trap where it said "he pulls the rings through his skin by jerking them off". It just sounded sexual, lol.<BR> ViperBlade Talk!! 20:35, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trap Edits 

message: Today a large number of anon users made a number of questionable edits. Since 90% of them were uncited, and a number of them blatantly false (like Monica Potter appearing) I reverted all of them.
I apologize for the legit edits that were lost. Feel free to add them back, but considering all the shit that this page has been hit with, please cite your sources.--CyberGhostface 19:00, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Today's Edits 

message: I just wanted to say before a flamewar or anything started: Open your friggin' eyes!<BR>Whoever's reverting my edit from "the door with 'Here's your chance' written on it" to "the door with "face your fears" written on it", please just stop! On the source for the twisting crucifix (which has now been deleted) the door to the room apparently reads "Here's your chance". I also uploaded a screenshot of the trailer here, and you can clearly make out "re's" "ur" and "ce". It's obvious that "face your fears" uses no "re's" at all.<BR>Thanks.<BR> ViperBlade Talk!! 17:20, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ViperBlade Talk!! 16:22, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

text: ViperBlade Talk!! 16:40, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Twisting Crucifix -- Here's your chance 

message: Well guys, I don't really know how to make this tie in with the article, so maybe you can.<BR>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Ew2SRZXqTs<BR> ViperBlade Talk!! 20:29, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kerry getting kidnapped clip 

message: Having the Actors for Adam, Xavier, and Obi(even though they are most likely to be in Flash backs)
coulde be spoiler to some.--Nimrod1234 01:46, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add Spoilers to Cast? 

message: The person in the pig mask will be referred to as Amanda from now on, because John is almost dead, and in all the pictures I've seen, the person obviously has breasts... something that John has a conspicious lack of. =D
http://xe6.xanga.com/e86d3171d723484678855/w58147026.jpg
WhatTheFace? 14:05, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pig mask 

message: ok how does anyone know that it says FACE YOUR FEARS outside of the door that leads to Danica's trap?
:There's a promotional picture somewhere where it says that. LookWhether or not its Danica's I'm not sure.--CyberGhostface 02:45, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How do you know it says "face your fears"? 

message: Anyone actually seen the movie yet? There are no sources for the deaths and spoilers. Personally, I'm reluctant to believe the latest info seeing as the movie hasn't been released yet (according to saw3.com) and the user who edited it was unregistered/not logged in.
Anyone else think it should be removed?
: ViperBlade Talk!! 12:03, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I do. Even if the film had already been released, this article is bloated with excessive detail. There is no reason to go into such detail on the traps and manner of death of the characters. I think this article should mirror the ones for Saw and Saw II in terms of format and level of detail.---Jackel 14:51, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not that we should include the "Deaths" section, but I thought it was released today, 10/27/06. Am I wrong? --KittyCollier 20:32, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was released today, I just got back from seeing the film. Now with the entire plot known, I'm taking the liberty to sort of merge the traps into a detailed plot section. -Lindsey8417 00:24, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deaths section (and other spoilers)

message: I started tidying up the verbage in this article. I've made no effort to change content other than to increase readability and remove passive voice where possible. I've edited down to the end of Troy. If nobody has any objection to what I've done so far, I'll finish the rest up Saturday evening. I've read some objections to specific content, and I'm trying to stay out of that. If you think I'm stepping on your toes, feel free to revert. If you think what I've done is a positive step, so state - and I'll continue. Hopefully the little I've done speaks to my ability (or lack thereof) enough to encourage others to offer me some direction. :) --Legomancer 05:11, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar Police 

message: do you know when a dvd release will be available?
* Wikipedia is no way associated with Twisted Pictures, Lionsgate or the people who distribute the Saw DVDs. My guess is about four-to-five months. Don't take my word on it though. The talk page is for discussing the article though, not questions on the articles topic. :-)--andrewI20Talk 08:42, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  DVD release 

message: Should we add something here about a Saw IV? It appears that it's quite possible that one will be made, according to some reports Mad Jack 19:34, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, there is now a source.  I will add to the article Mad Jack 21:50, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Saw IV

message: I've changed the references to the jar of "acid" in Kerry's trap to a "corrosive liquid" or just "liquid" later on.  This is because the liquid was probably not an acid - if Amanda knew what she was doing (and I assume she does since Jigsaw trained her), she'd use an alkaline base, not an acid.  Basic substances cause much more damage to flesh than acid substances.
Shadowlink1014 06:22, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the dialogue in the tape said that it was an acid, but because I can't fully recall from nearly puking my guts out during that part, I'm going to leave it as is.--Dleav 14:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The information from the film said acid. Anything else is assumptions and original research.--CyberGhostface 20:28, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  That jar of "acid" 

message: What was the song used in the credits? Not for addition to the article, just for personal interest. Jr W 23:12, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Credits Song? 

message: The film was rated MA15+ in Australia. Just thought someone might use that info. Jr W 23:12, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australian (OFLC) Rating