Talk:List of symphony orchestras

message: Should this list be in alphabetical or some other order? Shawnc 14:39, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think so.  It looks as if most of the countries already have alphabetized lists.  I doubt it needs to follow the "greater notability" convention that dab lists use.  My 2¢, anyway.   ◉ ghoti 11:15, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Order

message: Anybody know if Jakarta Symphony Orchestra and The Jakarta Symphony (List_of_symphony_orchestras#Indonesia) are actually different entities?  I can't find any press about either name that would seem to distinguish them.   ◉ ghoti 11:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
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The
 Jakarta Symphony 
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message: ::(Diff prior to the mass-deletion of redlinks for future consideration/reference. -- Quiddity (talk) 18:53, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: These are links to the 'official web pages' of various orchestras.  This type of link would be appropriate in the WP:EL section of an article about that orchestra, but they are not reliable, third-party publications that could be used to satisfy our WP:verifiability policy. Dlabtot (talk) 23:05, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Now you see, there's your misunderstanding.  The "official website" of an organisation (band, musician, artist, company etc) is a primary source and can be used to verify information about the organisation.  Quite often, the only place you are going to get some information is from the official publication.  What it can't be used for is evidence of notability - that does have to come from reliable secondary sources such as reviews of performances or recordings.  This resource verifies that the orchestras concerned actually exist, which is all that is required for this list. --Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:12, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I disagree with your interpretation of our polices. This is not, by the way, a list of all symphony orchestras that exist. Nevertheless, I'd like to hear the interpretation of our policies that says it is ok to simply remove  or  tags rather than providing references for the challenged material. Dlabtot (talk) 23:20, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, but I'm on with the references.  Here's one for the Century Orchestra Osaka  This orchestra also got a great write up for its debut performance in Boston .  What I'll do is redlink the orchestras that I can find some reference to (ie demonstrate they exist).  The ones left probably ought to go as being unverifiable.--Elen of the Roads (talk) 23:26, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK, then. Dlabtot (talk) 23:28, 30 July 2009 (UTC)

text:  I'm going to go ahead and removed the material that I challenged for which you have not provided any references.  Sufficient time seems to have passed that if the citations existed, you would have been able to find them by now.  Our verifiability policy clearly states: Any material lacking a reliable source may be removed, our list guideline clearly states: Lists, whether they are embedded lists or stand-alone lists, are encyclopedic content as are paragraphs and articles, and they are equally subject to Wikipedia's content policies such as Verifiability, No original research, Neutral point of view, and others.  Dlabtot (talk) 16:41, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Far too many redlinks 

message: I've just removed a whole heap of orchestras and similar which had been added by IP editor(s). Spot checks of these orchestras on Google found that none actually existed. Nick-D (talk) 07:56, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  My recent changes 

message: The organization and the verification of this list is beyond corrupt. I'm willing to improve this page later on during the year. HanSangYoon (talk) 16:55, 20 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page needs a huge re-edit 

message: I know that some chamber orchestras sometimes play symphonies, but IMO that doesn't make them symphony orchestras. I suggest to remove chamber orchestras from this list. Michael Bednarek (talk) 10:14, 26 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Chamber orchestras listed?