Talk:Marilyn Hickey

message: I removed a substantial amount of content because it could potentially be libelous; such allegations must be sourced, even if they are true. Johnleemk | Talk 13:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-neutral material 

message: I'm removing the latter section of the ethics section for a couple of reasons:
# It's simply not encyclopedic.  An encyclopedia article cannot contain  'The author of this paragraph has on several occasions... received...' 
# The actual passage, as sourced, has no legitimate means of verification.  It's essentially original research.
# It simply details a single experience with the questionable practices described before.
That being said, I should make it clear that I don't doubt the accuracy of the information.  In fact, using the source already cited in the Ethics section, an interested editor could (and probably should) put together some excellent examples like that in the removed passage.
K10wnsta (talk) 22:15, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claims in Ethics Section 

message: I have not rewritten the segment in the Theology section on seed faith and am not entirely certain if you are looking for a citation to the underpinnins of seed faith - but found in an online extraction of the journal Theology Today from Princeton Seminary this information evaluating Oral Roberts book the Miracle of Seed Faith:
Roberts' theology is best exemplified in his basic concept of "Seed Faith" with its three key principles for "Abundant Living": (1) God is your source, (2) Give that it may be given to you, (3) Expect a miracle. The Miracle of Seed Faith (1970) has sold well over a million copies. The concept is said to be based on Luke 6:38 (". . . give and you shall receive"), Philippians 4:19 ("My God shall supply all your needs . . ."), and Galatians 6:7 ("Whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap"). A key step to "Abundant Living" is the "Blessing Pact" whereby one pledges to give money (preferably to Roberts' ministries) with the expectation of monetary as well as spiritual blessings in return. "If you want God to supply your financial needs, then give SEED-MONEY for HIM to reproduce and multiply" (p. 21).
The book on Seed Faith contains about forty testimonies of the efficacy of the concept. Over half of these testimonies deal with financial gain through the use of the Plan. The story of a "black man in Harlem" is typical. He testifies that he started his "Blessing Pact" by sending in five dollars to Tulsa. But he was dismayed when nothing happened. Then, after three months of using the Plan, a stranger appeared and gave him $700. A second stranger came a week later and gave him $1,000. "Today is a new day for me. Today, I live in my own home in Harlem; it cost $27,000 and it's all paid for."
"Being a Christian is the best deal a man ever had," says Roberts, who claims that we should "stress the law of return more than we stress our debt to God." He differentiates the Seed-Faith concept from the traditional Christian idea of tithing: "In tithing, you give after you have made the income. In Seed-giving, you give before in expectation of return" (p. 27).
This is from the October 1976 edition of Theology Today. (http://theologytoday.ptsem.edu/oct1976/v33-3-criticscorner1.htm) It is maybe a little more subtle message than "if they "sow a seed in fertile ground" (pledge to sow money and/or prayer into a ministry that is active and financially sound, such as their own), God will reward them." The underlying concept is more along the lines of Give Money - Expect a Miracle - usually delivered with - and here are some miraculous financial testimonies...
Joemann (talk) 21:52, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation on Seed Faith Theology 

message: I am very new to making comments on Wikipedia, so I'm sorry if I'm doing this the wrong way.
Most of this article seems like it is written with too much detail proportionate to the notability of this person.
Under the criticism section, it seems like the article is written from a non-encyclopedic perspective. I don't doubt there should be a criticism section. In fact, after happening to see this person on TV, I looked her up on Wikipedia because it seemed to me that her TV show is a scam and I was surprised it could be on TV. But the criticism section, capitalizing the word "him," for example, strikes me as odd:
"At numerous times in the past, Marilyn Hickey Ministries has been criticized for some of their fundraising practices, and also at times has been compared to other ministries such as Peter Popoff, Don Stewart and Kenneth Copeland. They have been accused of exploiting their audiences to raise money, and using God's words as their own, promising His blessings in return for funding the work of God through their ministries."
Rather than being neutral, it seems to assume the concepts of a god and blessings as fact.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.160.243.114 (talk) 18:52, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problems with this article 

message: I have added a source as evidence that they aren't part of a denomination to verify my contribution to the article. Can somebody please fix the parenthetical citation and the source in the works cited list. Thank you. Glory to the Highest.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.128.183.171 (talk) 00:48, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marilyn Hickey and daughter are not with a denomination 

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