Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket/Archive 18

message: I would appreciate some help in copyediting Maharajkumar of Vizianagram re. the edits done an IP editor recently Link. I have to confess that I am indirectly responsible for this. I was vaguely familiar with this person through a list and invited him to take a look at the article and he made these edits.
I would rather avoid doing the copyedits myself because while his comments are unsourced and strong pro-Vizzy POV, he does know about the subject (mostly through a relative of his) and since I invited him myself I feel uncomfortable doing a plain revert. So can a neutral party please copyedit this. Tintin (talk) 04:48, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyediting Vizzy

message: I was just looking over the Wikiproject cricket participants list & have realised that there are lot of members who no longer contribute to the project. I suggest that we split the list into active & inactive members. We can send the inactive members messages asking them to indicate if they are active. This way we will have a clear statistic about how many people are really involved in the project & it will also be a wake-up call for the inactive users to start contributing. I would appreciate some feedback regarding this.
Thanks
Srikeit(talk ¦ ✉) 11:06, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not in favour of this. The essence of the project is surely that it is voluntary, and people's individual circumstances dictate how much time they can afford to spend at any given period. I don't think we should be "policing" their activities or categorising them on our perceptions of their activity rates. If people wish to remove themselves from the list of participants, then fine. But it should be their decision. Johnlp 11:46, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Not in favour either.  --PopUpPirate 12:03, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that occasional contributers shouldn't be pressurised into making more contributions. But what about users like Jguk who have left wikipedia. I think users who have not contributed to wikipedia for over a month should be added to the Inactive list.
Thanks
Srikeit(talk ¦ ✉) 12:14, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I still am against. Johnlp 12:33, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am also against (but then I am not listed as a member either ;) -- ALoan (Talk) 13:16, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this should only be the user's decision to determine whether he/she is inactive. There is space after the username where they can say whether they will contribute to WP:CRIC at the moment. I think Nichalp normally states his inactivity there or if he is focusing on other projects. GizzaChat © 07:32, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inactive members 

message: There is a debate starting on the talk page of this featured list as to how many "records" should be included - for example, are "Centuries in both innings of a Test" or "Most man of the match awards" sufficiently important or intersting to add? -- ALoan (Talk) 10:21, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[List of Test cricket records]]

message: The 2006 ICC Intercontinental Cup just started in Kenya (currently a redlink, with a brief mention in ICC Intercontinental Cup), and the rankings and schedule for the 2006 ICC Champions Trophy should become clear in the next few days.  It would be nice to work these articles up a little to a level equivalent to 2007 Cricket World Cup, at least... -- ALoan (Talk) 12:07, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How does the Intercontinental Cup look now? Sam Vimes 15:56, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Gosh.  Where did I leave that barnstar? -- ALoan (Talk) 16:13, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On the page next door? ;) Sam Vimes 17:08, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm - what was Nepal's follow-on target in the Challenge game, a 4-day match where the first day was washed out?  122 (150 behind Namibia's first innings)?  Namibia must have thought they were well set to win by an innnigs with 7 and then 8 wickets down... -- ALoan (Talk) 18:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: International competitions

message: I don't think anybody here will want to challenge this prod, but it's just a notice. The same author probably inserted the same rant into the Brett Lee article as an anon. Regards, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 00:10, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Attack page deleted -- Ian ≡ talk 08:22, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed deletion [[Hypocrisy of Australian cricket]] 

message: I just noticed there is an all-rounder template for those that have done the test double (200 wickets, 2000 runs). Try as I might I can can't see how to add people to the list with their info. Obviously you can just add the template to a page but it wont have the number of tests played to do the double. If someone could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it. Just for the record, Benaud and Vaas need to be added to the list, 60 and 82 tests respectively. --LiamE 23:03, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Edit Template:All-rounders. -- ALoan (Talk) 23:14, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why couldn't I find that? --LiamE 23:23, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I edited it and it worked for a few minutes then it all disappeared. No idea what i've done wrong. --LiamE 23:39, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can view it pretty clearly. Nobleeagle  (Talk) 00:08, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Left it alone and can see it again now. Must have been something up at my end with IE. --LiamE 09:15, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  All rounder template 

message: Is now Indian Collaboration of the Week. So if any of you people reckon you can add anything, then please join in the editing. Hopefully we'll get a Good or Featured Article in no time :) Nobleeagle  (Talk) 07:19, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Indian cricket team]] 

message: Personally I think the redirect should be to Suresh Raina, not the other way around, he is not usually known by his full name, unlike Mahendra Singh Dhoni. what does everybody think??Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 03:31, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Suresh Raina seems to be popular usage. =Nichalp «Talk»= 06:41, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  So does anyone object to me reversing the redirect? I'll wait another day or two, I think. Regards, Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 06:47, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You have my vote.
Thanks
Srikeit(talk ¦ ✉) 06:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Redirect has been reversed.Blnguyen | Have your say!!! 04:24, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Suresh Kumar Raina]] -> [[Suresh Raina]] 

message: I seemed to have screwed up the infobox of this particular player & I can't sort it out. Help will be appreciated.
Thanks
Srikeit(talk ¦ ✉) 02:02, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks to Muchness for fixing the box.
Cheers
Srikeit(talk ¦ ✉) 02:33, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

text: No problem :) --Muchness 02:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Hamish McLeod]] 

message: Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Version 1.0 articles - did we finish, or just run out of steam? -- ALoan (Talk) 19:08, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Could someone cast a rule over Bill Whitty and Rick Darling? I was the main contributor to both so don't want to nominate my own unless someones checked them out first. Thanks ;) AlbinoMonkey (Talk) 04:30, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Version 1.0

message: I am looking for information about R. E. Grant Govan, the founder-president of BCCI. There is very little in the standard sources. All I know about his background is that he was a British businessman in Delhi who ran a company called Govan brothers. There is little data about his activities as the President of BCCI except that he attended certain ICC meetings and some such. (Google provides nothing new or useful, except something about an Anglo Indian old age home in Delhi called Grant Govan homes).
As of now, there is no information about his first name, his date of birth or death, or where he was born or died. Any more information - maybe a pointer to his Wisden obit, or about his grave - will be most appreciated. Tintin (talk) 10:20, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for information - RE Grant Govan 

message: This is related to the Indian Cricket Team article:
"Note that some of the time periods overlap due to the fact that a captain may have simply been filling in. As is the case of Rahul Dravid's captaincy in 2003."
I do not agree with including filling roles in this list.  In my opinion, it makes the list confusing and also decreases its utility.  For example, if xyz was captain as a fill in role for couple of times in 1993 and then later promoted to full time captaincy in 1997 to 2001, it is grossly misleading and confusing to say he was captain from 1993-2001.  --Blacksun 01:36, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point, but it should be discussed at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Cricket. I suggest this discussion is moved there. GizzaChat © 07:23, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It could be modelled after what they do in Wisden, where they list the permanent captains and include footnotes to indicate which captains filled in for them in the event of injury. Andrew nixon 19:16, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Indian captain list

message: Should this page be a subpage of this project? I ran into it while looking at the new dynamic WikiProject list, and wanted to know before moving it or doing anything. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 20:17, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't even seem to be used. Would anyone object to deleting it? (I'll notify Sam Korn as it's his page). Stephen Turner (Talk) 20:37, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a cricket noticeboard or anything? If not then I can't see what can be done to improve this so that it can be used. Better off to just delete it. Nobleeagle  (Talk) 07:22, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Goodness me, I'd forgotten that.  I have no worries about deleting it, though it is quite nice!  Sam Korn (smoddy) 13:54, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket user notice]] 

message: I have proposed  and  at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals. All the other Test-playing nations have their own stubs and stub categories, and I think these countries now have enough stubs to merit their own too. Stephen Turner (Talk) 10:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New stub categories proposed