Talk:Unirea, Alba

message: Alex, please provide evidence that the Romanian and Hungarian names are translations of the Latin one. 
Anyway, I don't feel necessary that those long tables are in the article, it was originally included becase you attacked me by claiming that I am magyarizing the town --KIDB 16:02, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: KIDB, you can find the evidence yourself by simply looking in a Latin-Romanian and Latin-Hungarian dictionary at the word "Superior". The tables can stay now, since people invested time in order to produce them, and they are relevant to the article. Nobody attacked anyone, it's just that you were saying that the commune (btw, it's a commune and a village, not a town) had less than 20% Romanian population. Which was absolutely false, as you can clearly see. Alexrap 16:29, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

text: While I would likw to point out that Medieval Latin was indeed used by the Kingdom (and probably spoken by all intellectuals and authorities), I find the notion that it was "translated" from Latin very dubious. Because, you know, Romanian in Medieval Transylvania was the tree falling in the forest (while Hungarian was recorded in, if I'm not mistaken, 1300). Let's not postulate the unverifiable. Dahn 17:54, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't think there is any older Romanian name, and the name "Unirea" literally means "the Union" - post-1918 if I ever did see such a name. Personally, I cannot say anything about the tables (are they actually sourced?). Dahn 18:12, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Because the first mention has no meaning in Latin. Therefore, we must assume that it was a translation of something, not the other way. Simply stating the mentions and languages, without any speculation, moves this article away from original research (as would dropping the weasel wording "it should be noted"). Dahn 19:47, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Latin name was certainly the translation in Latin (the language used in official documents at the time) of the names used by the inhabitants (Romanians, Hungarians, Germans). What I am trying to say is that we need to find a way to mention that all the names mean the same thing, The Upper Vint/Vinc/Winz, as this is clearly a fact, and no OR. Alexrap 19:53, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You could just say that, then. Dahn 22:40, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
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message: Once again, why is it really necessary the second table? Because if someone just like to put tables in articles why is not doing the same for roma people? Are they not good enough for this? --Roamataa 20:03, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
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