Talk:Dame Edna Everage

message: In my effort to merge the now-deleted list from the article Gay icon to the Gay icons category, I have added this page to the category. I engaged in this effort as a "human script", adding everyone from the list to the category, bypassing the fact-checking stage. That is what I am relying on you to do. Please check the article Gay icon and make a judgment as to whether this person or group fits the category. By distributing this task from the regular editors of one article to the regular editors of several articles, I believe that the task of fact-checking this information can be expedited. Thank you very much. Philwelch 20:30, 24 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gay Icon Project 

message: Is it worth mentioning that Dame Edna introduced Sir Paul McCartney at the concert to celebrate the Golden Jubilee of Elizabeth II? Confusing Manifestation 16:30, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jubilee appearance 

message: This article reads like something out of Dame Edna's autobiography.  It needs to be reworked so that it reads more like an encyclopaedia article.  Exploding Boy 07:00, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Style

message: No, Toots, this is the wrong way around. Dame Edna has been wearing OTT glasses ever since she first appeared in 1955. Elton John has worn Dame Edna style glasses.
--Amandajm 10:27, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elton John glasses. 

message: There's very little about her act in the article, I notice. In particular, there is not one single mention of possums and not a single gladiolus. I'm not entirely sure where to put such things, though. (This caused another editor to suspect me of vandalism when I made a Dame Edna reference at the opossum talk page; I'd had no idea until yesterday that she was referring to Australian possums, not American opossums.) --jpgordon∇∆∇∆ 16:54, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm amused at the frequent and matter-of-fact reference to Dame Edna as a "mega-star", as for example above: "an international mega-star belongs to the world". Mega-star at what? Does she sing? Does she dance? Does she recite poetry? Does she paint? Is she a writer, or a playwright? Does she play any instrument? Does she surf, skate, sky, play tennis, or golf, or baseball, or football, or perhaps frisbee? Is she some kind of athlete, or scientist, or diver, or astronaut? We know she is not very good at Literature, especially at Universal Literature. Then, what on Earth does she do, or has ever done, to deserve to be called "a star", much less a "mega-star"??? She has never made me laugh: just to smile, and only occasionally. I would just regard "her" as a third-rate comedian, that's all. Or, perhaps I've been wrong all the time: after all, she's a real star at the art of gossip. --AVM 22:06, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well she says she's a mega star, she's not, but she actually gets treated by TV hosts as though she is.I mean, how many characters are left on TV that go back to the mid 1950s? Deathlibrarian (talk) 13:41, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Her act 

message: Just wondering why this article is part of the LGBT studies, as mentioned by the tag at the top of this article, the character Dame Edna isn't gay (had a husband, as mentioned) - although according to the article her sons are (despite her not knowing it), and Barry Humphries doesn't appear to be gay per his article (mentions wife and kids (yes I know that doesn't exclude someone from being gay), nor is there a similar tag on his article).  The best I could figure is that Edna is a "gay icon" per earlier discussion, but what does that mean exactly?  That she's popular with LGBT people?  I'm sure a lot of people qualify as that (for example, it seems to be mentioned frequently (though I don't know how true it is) that Barbara Streisand is popular with gay males, yet her talk page don't have a "gay icon" discussion, nor an "LGBT Studies" icon as well.  So just wondering where it comes from?  --Canuckguy 12:46, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The "T" in LBGT?  See the gay icon article for more info.  Exploding Boy 21:14, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  LGBT Studies 

message: The article says that so far only her daughter Valmai has been seen. But, I'm sure her mother appeared on screen with her at least once on the BBC. I think it was either at the Millennium, but it could have been Sydney Olympics. Anyone else remember? 89.241.153.57 20:34, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dame Edna's Family 

message: Since Dame Edan Everage has not been awared either the honour Dame of the Order of Australia (AD) nor been made a Commander of the Order of the British Empire (CBE), why do these postnominals follow her name in the text inline for this article? This is not only inaccurate information, it's deliberately misleading (a fictional character can't win these honours) and doesn't fit in with any of Wikipedia's standards. I know they make the article FUN, but that's not what Wikipedia is all about. I suggest the postnominals be removed. Thoughts? comments? Blake the bookbinder 21:50, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You might as well say that Mickey Mouse doesn't ware red pants because a fictional character can't pants. Jɪmp 07:25, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not saying Dame Edna doesn't wear horn-rimmed glasses and have purple hair. Mickey DOES wear red shorts - it's just that he's not been made a member of the Order of Australia any more than Edna has, so we don't put post nominals behind either of their names. --Blake the bookbinder (talk) 02:30, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: She's a fictional character, so they aren't real, they are referring to the character in that context. Deathlibrarian (talk) 13:43, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edna's honours? 

message: Factual error:  In that section "On Wednesday 17 December 2006, Dame Edna appeared as a guest panellist on the ABC TV Show Spicks and Specks where she sang with presenter Adam Hills." contains an error.  Either the day or date is wrong.  17 December 2006 was a Sunday.  As I live in Texas, I'm not familiar with Australian TV schedules.  RevZafod (talk) 00:43, 12 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Performances 

message: Oz, I have her debut on 19 Dec 1955, per Humphries to John Lahr. Humphries says she had no specs, no make-up, no wig, just his own brown hair combed down. Is this what you have? (p.82, Lahr)--TEHodson 10:44, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: At first I couldn't get your link to load, but finally it did. Two different days, but same month. Shall we just go with December 1955? She was "Mrs. Everage," according to Lahr, no first name. I'll look in tomorrow to see what you've done. Have fun! --TEHodson 10:50, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I recall Humphries tells the full story in Flashbacks (the ABC series i linked above), but I don't have access to it.Ozhistory (talk) 10:59, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK. Done for now. I inserted your Madonna adoption story into the Life Story section - see what you think. Somebody has since flagged it as needing to be re-written to clearly show fictional nature. I've adjusted a couple of lines accordingly, but maybe would help to restore old title: "Fictional Biography"Ozhistory (talk) 13:11, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You did a great job, Oz. I think it's better overall. I'm done for now. --TEHodson 20:49, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks alot, glad you enjoy. On the Thatcherism comments, I suspect that it its gonna remain a problem for editors until it is adapted to something less POVy such as "Humphries' parody thrived on the fashionable materialism of the 1980s and Edna's popularity soared along with the fortunes of Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher". If you want to quote an academic or Humphries' personal opinions of the era, do it further down in the article, as I think it is distracting in the intro.Ozhistory (talk) 10:36, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edna's debut 

message: Hi to the anonymous editor who created the new section, Inspiration to others. The references you cited do not support the suggestion that these comics were in any way inspired by Dame Edna. If you have a source where the comics themselves are stating that Dame Edna was an inspiration to them, that would satisfy the citation requirement. Other people saying that is not enough, but these references either didn't mention Dame Edna at all (the Mail online page was just a bunch of mini-articles about dozens of people), or they just grouped her in with cross-dressers. Dame Edna is, first of all, not a transvestite character in the usual sense of the word, but in any case, someone has to say they were inspired to create their own character as a result of exposure to Edna in order for the section to exisit. Sorry. The Hero Icon section also has to be properly cited and in the right place. Maybe just a sentence about Humphries being inspired by Danny LaRue someplace else, but properly cited.--TEHodson 00:18, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inspiration to others section 

message: The details of the photo of "Dame Edna at the Wedding of Prince William, Duke of Cambridge, and Catherine Middleton" says it was taken on 28 April 2011 at 14:31. The wedding was on the following day, 29 April, at 11:00. The un-cropped version of the photo [] shows Edna outside a building (not inside Westminster Abbey), speaking to a camera (perhaps some of the reporting mentioned in the article?). This is clearly not Dame Edna at the wedding: it's the wrong day and the wrong location. How about something more credible, like "Dame Edna reporting on the Wedding of Prince William and Catherine Middleton, April 2011".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.82.183 (talk) 20:21, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dame Edna NOT at the Royal Wedding 

message: Re this:
According to one author, Edna came into her own during the 1980s when the policies of Thatcherism -- and what he described as the "vindictive style of the times"-- allowed Dame Edna to sharpen her observations accordingly.[14] Lahr wrote that Edna took Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher's "seemingly hypocritical motto" of "caring and compassion" for others and turned it on its head, Edna became the voice of Humphries' outrage. [14][dubious – discuss][vague]
This makes Humphries and Edna look like left wingers. They most certainly are NOT. Humphries is one of the most right-wing of all Australian / British entertainers. I remember an TV "interview" with Edna during Thatcher's reign, in which Thatcher was criticised. Edna actually leapt out of character (very rare) and noted that feminists had been calling for more female politicians, and now that they had a most successful female Prime Minister, did nothing but criticize her. She added something like: "I suppose you are surprised to hear me speak like this, but there it is." 
I have NEVER heard Humphries or Edna say a word in support of any underdogs. Recently, he came to Australia, and called us all "common", a word that no liberal or left winger would ever use. The views in the quote above are diamatrically opposite to what Humphries believes and occasionally promotes. (But he IS a genius, and hilariously funny, no doubt about that. I've seen just about every stage show he's ever done.) Myles325a (talk) 04:53, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Edna is a upper class conservative character, that parodies priveleged people. That's the whole point. So Dame Edna is never going to be supporting the underdog. Deathlibrarian (talk) 05:51, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Humphries fan of Thatcher, not critic 

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message: Seems to be some error on this page, claiming that "Dame Edna is a character played by Barry Humphries" ? - Bizarre. Deathlibrarian (talk) 05:48, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seems to be some mistake