Talk:J/Z (New York City Subway service)

message: Since the MTA considers the J a local and the Z an express train (see <http://mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/tjnxt.pdf>), please do not change the name in the infobox to "Nassau Street Express" or "Nassau Street Local". The name should read "Nassau Street Local and Express" in accordance with the designation in MTA's official schedule, in the same way as the 7 is designated Flushing Local and Express.Avman89 (talk) 05:25, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the above (If the service guide says it. it's true).  However, somebody keeps changing it. Coasterlover1994 23:47, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: Any idea of how to make the Midday table? The J runs express outside of rush hours.--iGeMiNix 15:17, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No need for a mid-day column; the weekdays column covers that. Express service ends after the PM rush hour, but I don't see a need for a separate evening column. Is an evening column needed? Acps110 (talk • contribs) 15:23, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I see. I don't know about the evening column, I mean it does make it more precise but it is just a minor change on the table anyways.--iGeMiNix 19:02, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Service pattern 

message: ,  While I hope the edit war over this image has calmed down, I have to say that I don't think the picture adds much value to the article, or someone wanting to find out about the subway line. Compare with some pictures on other articles, such as High Line (New York City) or Docklands Light Railway. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:01, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It follows the rules of composition and photography. Also, the J train passes over the Williamsburg Bridge so it is frequently seen (or felt) by pedestrians walking over it, even at night. Most daytime pictures of the J train use a shutter speed that is way too fast to give a sensation of motion. Yanping Nora Soong (talk) 17:12, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  While that may be true, images need to give something to the reader above and beyond what the text says, and I'm not sure "it's a fast train" is enough. To give an analogous example, consider :File:Eurostar on CTRL.jpg which shows a train on High Speed 1, a line with a verifiable top speed of 140mph, yet the image is colourful and unblurred. However, even then that's not a great image; have a look at some of our featured pictures for land transport for some ideas. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 17:17, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think my image is aesthetically pleasing? It's showing the railway line on the Williamsburg Bridge at night / in the early morning, with high contrast. It actually takes quite a bit of work to photograph a fast-moving train with a shutter speed at 1/6th of a second, without a tripod, damping the vibrations of the train by stabilizing my camera on a padded backpack on the overlooking rail, with the bridge and railway coming out extremely sharp. See Motion blur (which was intentional). This all had to be done successfully while making sure (fast-moving) train was not only still in the frame, but well-composed. The example image you give has low-contrast, not well-composed, is overexposed, and is not aesthetically pleasing. Yanping Nora Soong (talk) 17:44, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  I fully appreciate the technical challenges in photography, and imagine they are similar to music. I'm not trying to pour cold water on your efforts, or disparage your work in any way at all; simply I was wondering if it was suitable for this article. To try and give an analogy, I once heard somebody dismiss fast-playing, technically, flash guitarists with "that's like judging a novel by how quickly it was typed". Anyway, as Grapple X says, there is a consensus for the picture to stay, so let's leave it there. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 18:43, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

text: As far as I see it, it's free for us to use and doesn't detract from the article, so there's no harm in it. GRAPPLE X 17:43, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

text: YNS's photo is artistically and aesthetically appealing, though it doesn't go in style with most of the other NYCS service articles, which usually have only one picture of the current rolling stock. (The J and Z have six such pictures, courtesy of , but they're all packed in a gallery.)Anyway, a picture of a J train is good enough for most readers. epicgenius (talk) 20:18, 15 February 2016 (UTC)

text: Just as clarification, do any of you have objections to removal of the picture, though? epicgenius (talk) 20:19, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I was really trying to calm down an edit war more than anything else. As I said, if people think the picture is better left in, I'm happy to go with consensus. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 11:28, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I guess I will leave it in per consensus. None of the other service articles, however, have more than one image of each type of rolling stock, so I understand why TheManchoMan and his IP were trying to remove the black-and-white image. epicgenius (talk) 14:55, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black and white speeding train image 

message: The new R179 are now running on the J and Z lines so put that in rolling Stock and how much trains there is. RedProofHill123 (talk) 20:07, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: One set is in service for 30-day testing. We shouldn't add it yet.--Kew Gardens 613 (talk) 20:26, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rolling Stock Update  

message: R32s are no longer Assigned to the J/Z Line, they are displaced to the C lines.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Subwayfan1998 (talk • contribs) 07:36, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  R32s are no Longer Assigned to the J/Z Line