Talk:LGBT rights in Ecuador

message: A user has been reverting my edits in this article for no reasons. In the section about same-sex adoptions, I wrote that single people can freely adopt and cited the Ecuadorian Children's Right Code as a source, bur he reverted me saying that he doesn't speak Spanish. That's not a reason at all to revert me, he can't just presume bad faith and revert me because he just doesn't speak a certain language. Ecuador is a Spanish-speaking country so all the laws are obviously going to be written in Spanish. I'm going to provide a translation of the article here, but it should be noted that the user reverted me even when he shouldn't have done so.
Also I provided a source that talked about how the article of the Ecuadorian Penal Code that used to criminalize sexual acts between persons of the same sex was overturned by the Constitutional Tribunal (Ecuador's highest court), but then he just reverted me saying that the Constitutional Tribunal can't overturn laws. I don't know if he's some kind of expert in Ecuadorian laws, but he can't just do that. I provided a source that stated what I wrote but he just deleted it without presenting a source saying that the Constitutional Tribunal of Ecuador can't overturn laws. He obviously didn't think that the highest courts of every country work in a different way. So again, he shouldn't have reverted me unless he could provide a source.
Third, I've presented many sources about the legalization of civil unions in Ecuador, both in Spanish and English. He just called them flat out wrong and reverted me again. This is unacceptable. He can't just do that. I presented many sources that give prove of this but he just deleted what I wrote. He didn't present a single source to support his statement that all the other sources were "flat out wrong", so unless he provide one, he can't revert me. I live in Ecuador, so I know from personal experience about these things, but not just that, as I said, I provided sources for every single statement I included in the article. He haven't. He presumed bad faith from me, even when he shouldn't have done so. I'm including my sourced information again, and I expect more than calling them "flat out wrong" or "I don't speak Spanish" if someone wants to delete it.
By the way the article that states that adoption by single people is possible is the 153, which translates roughly to "Legal constituted heterosexual couples will be prefered at the time of an adoption than single people". --DrkFrdric (talk) 18:50, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Refer to WP:BRD. Reasons were given. It's disingenuous to claim otherwise. I do, in fact, speak Spanish. The problem isn't the language of the source you've cited. Rather, the problem is that you've cited a very long code to support a narrow point. You must be more specific. "Overturn" is not equivalent to "ruling a law unconstitutional". The court did not "overturn" anything. It's a fine but necessary point. The constitution does not, in fact, mention civil unions for LGBT persons. That is one of several problems with your summary of Article 68. I suggest that you review WP:AGF and stop edit warring before you get blocked. AfricaTanz (talk) 04:03, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The source cited for the decriminalization of sexual acts between people of the same-sex states "overturned" not "declared unconstitutional", so unless you can't provide a source that says the law wasn't overturned but declared unconstitutional, the article must say "overturned" because that's what our source says. Also, this is the English Wikipedia, so I don't know why you keep adding an article in Spanish. Now, the civil unions thing, maybe you don't know about this, but those "Stable monogamous relationships" that the constitution talks about, are called civil unions when they are registered, because here in Ecuador you get all the rights from marriage whether you register your relationship or not. That's why every single source in this article calls them civil unions, because that's the name they receive by the notaries when they are registered. So, here in Ecuador, those "stable and monogamous relationships" are civil unions when registered and unregistered cohabitation ehrn they are not. For example, here in Ecuador it's common to say "voy a unirme por lo civil", which translates to something like "I'm going to civil union" when somebody registers their "stable monogamous relationship", you are just presuming all the sources are wrong, but in fact it is you who, I assume, don't know a lot about Ecuadorian laws. Anyway, maybe that will not be enough for you to prove you that article 68 refers to civil unions, so I'm just going to add that civil unions are legal and not refer to article 68, because nobody can deny the fact that civil unions are legal there are so many sources everywhere, and none that says the contrary... --DrkFrdric (talk) 13:20, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
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message: How does Ecuador deal with transsexual people?
Is transition &/or surgery legal?
Are they allowed to correct their identity documents? Is genital surgery required to correct identity documents?
Are they counted as members of their aquired sex for purposes of marriage?
Likewise for transgender/non-op transsexuals.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.124.115.155 (talk) 06:40, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
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