Talk:Elliot Page

message: this seems to be missing from the page, but Elliot has also said they are non-binary multiple times VictoriousBard (talk) 06:41, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Mentioned under #gender transition — Czello (music) 07:30, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Czello I meant that the first paragraph omits it, should have been more clear VictoriousBard (talk) 13:59, 13 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elliot is non-binary 

message: The second paragraph starts:  From the context, I assume is not referring to their job as a television presenter, but it is not very clear. Could that be changed to something more clear? 147.12.250.163 (talk) 21:41, 27 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Moxy the "assigned female at birth" (AFAB) language is quite standard these days (as is the corresponding AMAB for assigned male at birth). See Sex_assignment#Terminology. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 02:48, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow that's horrible....we should find better wording..... as this clearly implies something's medically wrong to older generations. Moxy- 03:10, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @Moxy I think the language in part emerged due to a better understanding of intersex individuals, who are often assigned a sex that turns out to be wrong later in life. So it does have medical undertones, but perhaps for more justified reasons than one might imagine at first. Among young folks and also our sources, the language is pretty standard, both AMAB/AFAB have neutral connotations. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 03:27, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean assigned a "gender" that would turn out to be different than later in life. Two sexes, multiple genders per today's norm. You'll note in the personal life section Elliot went through "gender transition" not sex transition. I would also say that "assigned female at birth" is quite standard these days, but it is clunky and misleading as to what actually happened. But wikipedia uses what sources tell us not what I feel is misleading. Fyunck(click) (talk) 06:25, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't CaptainEek just talk about intersex individuals? "Two sexes" is also inaccurate. casualdejekyll 22:52, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That is an "opinion" I completely disagree with. Fyunck(click) (talk) 23:23, 14 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: let's not start off-topic debates now. B3251 (talk) 01:49, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Presenting as female 

message: Replace the word assigned with observed. The word assigned is incorrect as no one assigns a sex to a baby, like if a doctor assigned female to a baby with a penis, it wouldn’t make them a female. So observed female at birth is far more accurate as he was born female and female is the sex that was observed. 2601:647:8000:F5A0:C0E8:8EB1:6E91:8259 (talk) 20:00, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 19 October 2023 

message: Close to You will have its New York Premiere at NewFest Pride on June 1, 2024.  Eternalshrugemoji (talk) 19:11, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding film premiere date 

message: Why does the article retrofit past events with he and him when at the time it was she and her? You can't change the part. 101.119.117.21 (talk) 20:05, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Per wikipedia rules for those who are trans. Standard practice. Fyunck(click) (talk) 20:52, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Past tense