Talk:Terminator (character concept)

message: What should be done about the future Terminator model portrayed by Franco Columbu in the "future flashback" dream of Kyle Reese in the first movie? If we follow the Cameron use nomenclature, it would be presumably to be an 800/850 series (same or similar endoskeleton structure) with a different model number (i.e. looks like Franco Columbu not Schwarzenegger). So what should we do? Lestatdelc (talk) 04:31, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Model 

message: Would it be a good idea to cover terminator models from the expanded universe, like the T-70 from T2 3D and the I-950 from T2: Infiltrator? Soon, we'll be adding at least two more terminator models, the Summer Glau fast attack boat and the Owain Yeoman heavy gun ship. ColdFusion650 02:46, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not? CABAL 12:03, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and added the two new Terminator models from The Sarah Conner Chronicles this morning since the show is out in the wild now.  Joe McCullough | (talk) 19:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am noticing folk adding the various models of the Terminators without bothering to cite them. This isn't going to work. We cannot include the model numbers without citation, as there is too much difference with fans, and we should seek to avoid the inevitable edit war. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 05:17, 16 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Interesting that you've described them in that way. Is it possible that Terminators are designed with "class" in mind? They're supposed to infiltrate and then destroy. The TX and Cameron are both small, nimble and wily, yet are seemingly more dangerous than any of the "Heavier" types.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tapok (talk • contribs) 20:27, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Most of the people who are doing it are anonymous editors. That means that they are probably unaware of the rules for inclusion, and just think that we can take their word for it. They also probably don't check the edit summaries to see that it has been removed several times and think that they are geniuses who know more about the show than we do. It's not really malicious, so I don't mind. ColdFusion650 (talk) 20:32, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional Models 

message: *Popular Mechanics compares Terminators ~ZytheTalk to me! 11:56, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useful source 

message: I updated this row and also fixed the columns in the table to be straight, hope no one minds. Also, there is a picture of a T-600 on fox's website if anyone wants to deal with the fair use rational stuff.Kennstinson (talk) 20:07, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You kinda need to deal with that fair use rationale stuff before you add it, Kennstinson.See my comments below regading seeking consensus before editing in significant changes to the article. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 18:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: T-600

message: I was just trying to point out that Cromartie is not the only T-888. If you disagree, feel free to edit. But at least leave the columns straight.Kennstinson (talk) 17:16, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You need to seek consensus to do that, my friend. And Cromartie's worn more than just a few disguises and at least two faces thus far. I am not saying he's the only one, but you need to verify that all of the others are in fact T-888's, since we only know that Cromartie and the one following Reese's brother are T-888s (because we have been specifically told that). - Arcayne (cast a spell) 18:29, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

text: We have a source for Cromartie being a T-888. We have a source for that bald terminator that Cameron killed being a T-888. All others are not proven. ColdFusion650 (talk) 23:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: T-888

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Cromartie in TSCC.jpg

message: * T-800 something from Kyle's flashback in T1
* T-888 Carter with Coltan
* T-888 Vick Chamberlain who developed the LA Traffic Control System
* dream Terminator of Sarah Connor's in T:TSCC
* combat chassises from T2 future scenes  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.55.84.89 (talk) 08:24, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Future Terminator (as it is called in the credits), Carter, and Vick (who did not develop a traffic control system) are relatively minor characters. We know nothing about the Future Terminator or Carter, and the only thing we know about Vick is that he is a T-888. The Terminator from Sarah's dream does not exist. It was a dream. The endoskeletons from future scenes are incredibly minor characters. We know absolutely nothing about them except that they are terminators. They really don't deserve a place on the page. ColdFusion650 (talk) 14:20, 12 March 2008 (UTC)

text: We have no idea what it is, except that it's a Terminator. We wouldn't put up the giant arm that grabs that guy either. There just isn't enough info. This is for featured terminators, and we don't know how much time will be devoted to these models. ColdFusion650 (talk) 14:22, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terminators not listed 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Cameron Phillips in TSCC.jpg

message: Hi, in the series there are references to other types of terminators. such as in episode 18 of season 2 the Submarine is attacked by a "Skynet attack submersible designation: Kraken". and there are several information about that type. shouldn't they also be listed somewhere? maybe as "none human terminators" ? right that could lead to the problem that the t-1 isn't really a human one. but there are also these motorcycles in the new movie and feveral flying models that can be seen in the series and movies. - cu AssetBurned (talk) 04:27, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other types of terminators such as the Kraken? 

message: It doesn't make sense to categorise this series of terminator with the title "101". 101 is simply the model number of the T-800 that appears in the first three films. It does not apply to the actual design of the machine; simply what it looks like. Another T-800 appears in one of Reeses flashback, which has a different appearance and (presumably) model number. Unless there's evidence to suggest the title 101 refers to a varible in the machines design, I'm removing it to avoid confusion. --Dark_Wolf101 16:24, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  T-800/850/101 

message: Don't forget the T-1000, you've got the T-1001, but not the preceding model 121.223.29.211 (talk) 02:22, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: T-1000 

message: The intro claims the following:
"James Cameron introduced the first terminator character in the 1984 movie The Terminator, featuring a single cyborg simply called "The Terminator", portrayed by Arnold Schwarzenegger. When later Terminator movies introduced additional models, some sources retroactively gave Schwarzenegger's character a model number, leading to multiple conflicting names."
This is inaccurate. The first film featured two (different) terminators. The central character, portrayed by Schwarzenegger, was one of these two terminators. The other is shown in the 'dream' sequence (or flashback) of Kyle Reese - where a terminator enters a resistance base and starts shooting everyone. This second terminator was portrayed by Franco Columbo (and is credited in the end titles as a 'Terminator').
So, there was NOT a single cyborg featured in the first terminator movie. Additionally, the name (or designation) of the "Arnold" terminator is given - in the first film - as a T-800 (or 800 series) Cyberdyne Systems Model 101. Other "types" of terminator are referred to, namely both 600 and 700 series terminators. Reference to these other "types" of terminator can be found in the first film and its related texts (screenplay and tie-in novel) - sources which were released around the same time. As such, it is wrong to suggest that these other "types" of terminator were only named 'retroactively' because of later films.
Since this article is about the concept / character of "Terminator(s)" generally, is sould be a legitimate way to proceed via referencing such sources as screenplays, novels, etc. These wider sources show that the opening section is clearly wrong. Please discuss this - and, if in agreement, I'll change the article. Simon P Blackburn (talk) 22:54, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Opening Section Is Wrong 

message: No mention is made of the T-700, which appears in Terminator Salvation (when John, Kyle and Star fall into the Terminator factory and we see a side shot of an endo skull, that is a T-700 although John misidentifies it as a T-800), and is identified in the Movie Companion and Playmates toyline. I thought I'd point that out. ggctuk (2005) (talk) 17:30, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: In the DVD extra, one of the staff refer the Terminator in the factory is the T-700. It is unknown whether this factor is changed or not since Connor refers Terminators in the factory are T-800. --TX55<SUP>TALK</SUP> 09:45, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  T-700 

message: There is clear vandalism in the table of Models:
T-130 	
    * cable controlled drill that rescued chilean miners in october 2010 in order to gain humanity's trust
	
    * worlwide news networks
    * the internets and blagospheres
86.137.26.108 (talk) 04:55, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  T-130 

message: When referring to the robot, is it proper to use "Terminator" or "terminator"?  The article uses both - could we be internally consistent?  GoingBatty (talk) 05:06, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm guessing that the movie titles and Arnold's character should use upper case, while generic robots should use lower case.  GoingBatty (talk) 15:29, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Terminator" or "terminator" 

message: The article says that Cameron claims that terminators are constructed of coltan for heat resistance. I haven't really paid much attention to the television series, but that statement does not make much sense. Coltan is a raw ore, for one, and it's a dull black color, for another - terminators look chromed when the exoskeleton is exposed. Coltan is processed to yield niobium and tantalum; tantalum is nearly impervious to acid and niobium has a high melting point. Although tantalum carbide is extremely hard, it's a brown powder, not a shiny metal. I don't think either one would make a very good "hyperalloy." Atypicaloracle (talk) 13:22, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coltan? 

message: In the sentence "The T-X model is covered by the mimetic poly-alloy, providing it the ability to mimic humanoid forms while enforcing the endoskeleton beneath." The word "enforcing" doesn't make sense. It might should be enclosing. I'm not sure what to do when I see something wrong but I'm not sure of how to right it. 
Chuck Baggett (talk) 06:58, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe "reinforcing"?  GoingBatty (talk) 14:00, 10 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong Word 

message: T-900  Summer Glau (Cameron[19] / TOK715)
 Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines
wtf ? Summer Glau was only in the TV-series not in T3. Either a vandalism,missplace.. I suggest immediate removal. 
    Terminator 3: Before the Rise
    Terminator: The Sarah Connor Chronicles
    Terminator 3: War of the Machines
    Terminator 3: The Redemption  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.69.93.11 (talk) 22:49, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  T-900 

message: I find it hard to discern what makes this article be separate from Terminator (character). In fact, I tend to think it should be merged into it. --uKER (talk) 15:54, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Terminator (character concept)]] vs [[Terminator (character)]] 

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