Talk:Civil rights movement (1896–1954)

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message: Since everyone is opposed to both proposals, then here is a counterproposal.
*A MOCK-UP of the proposed Jim Crow Era will be produced at User:North Shoreman/Sandbox2
*The mock-up will ONLY merge all or pertinent content from the original target five articles
*All five articles will remain UNCHANGED
*After Jim Crow Era mock-up has merged the five target articles, then we can REEVALUATE the original proposal
*Create STUB ARTICLE of History of race in the United States
Mitchumch (talk) 07:31, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose  nobody likes the basic idea and we're wasting all our time. there never was a thought out rationale for doing any of this.  Rjensen (talk) 07:35, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose -- I am experimenting in my sandbox, but have already determined that an adequate article titled Jim Crow Era needs to go way beyond the five articles.  The is no point trying to fit all of the info from the five articles into the new article since it would be much simpler to retain those articles and include summaries of the articles in the new article.  I don't think it's possible to write an article incorporating all of the material from the five articles while adding new material that would come in under 250,000 bytes. I do think a reasonable sized article relying heavily on summary style could be a valuable addition to wikipedia, but this is not the forum to discuss it. Tom (North Shoreman) (talk) 18:27, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

text: Oppose --I oppose the original proposals and this second counter-proposal, largely for the reasons that Rjensen and North Shoreman have described above. These articles deal with specific, complex topics that deserve to be covered in depth. Merging them would result in the loss of too much material, or make an article too large and complex to navigate. It's difficult enough to get the facts covered in separate articles. For instance, there are too many articles about politics and politicians in the South that gloss over the decades of disenfranchisement. I don't want to see the issues buried in a general Jim Crow article.Parkwells (talk) 15:04, 23 March 2016 (UTC)

text: Have you seen the article Nadir of American race relations?  For what it's worth, Eric Foner has stated that the "nadir" of African American history wasn't Jim Crow, but slavery.  Mitchumch (talk) 16:55, 19 March 2016 (UTC)

text: Sorry, let me clarify -- I removed the merge tag from Jim Crow laws. I hadn't realized that this discussion was on a different page, and I don't presume to know whether or not there are still outstanding issues WRT other pages. Klortho (talk) 02:35, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:   I placed the merge templates on several articles.  Please feel free to remove them.  It appears the discussion is over.  Thanks for the concern.  Mitchumch (talk) 03:22, 27 March 2016 (UTC)
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message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:African-American Civil Rights Movement (1954–1968) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 14:16, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
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message: Old, old sources that are not just out of date but represent a historical POV that is either fringe, incorrect, or just wrong.  The idea that communists were responsible for the civil rights wins is just one example, and this is an old JBS/evangelical Christian canard that should be removed. Viriditas (talk) 01:59, 10 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lots of problems; rewrite needed