Talk:XM25 CDTE

message: are the new pics working prototypes?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.109.102.105 (talk) 20:30, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: no, just mock-ups. the grafenwöhr xm25 is real -84.57.200.176 (talk) 16:11, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: ACU XM25

message: maybe this article will make it better: http://www.popsci.com/military-aviation-amp-space/article/2009-06/smart-bullets
69.225.28.184 (talk) 01:19, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really, because that article repeatedly refers to the XM25 as a "rifle" when it's actually a grenade launcher and the 25mm grenade it chambers as a "bullet". I'd say its accuracy is quite questionable in that regard. Spartan198 (talk) 09:57, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it fires rounds from a rifled barrel. 25mm puts it in the class of 'guns' and its projectiles in the class of shells but those distinctions are only there because of some vague 19th century treaties defining what can and can't be an explosive shell. This has more in common with an ship mounted, programmable automatic cannon then with your standard issue grenade. But a journalist reporting on it is unlikely to do that much research.
Also; "These features make the XM25 more effective than traditional grenade launchers at the task of hitting targets that are behind cover or dug into the ground." seems to break NPOV. This is typical of articles of weapons in the procurement or development phase since the manufacturers PR company is responsible for most releases of information. Who's to say an AGS-30 (a traditional grenade launcher by some standards) isn't as effective at this task? If there is a source for this statement I would suggest stating that it is the opinion of that source. If that source is the manufacturer then that should be especially clearly noted as a manufacturers claim.--Senor Freebie (talk) 02:44, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  making it better 

message: The first citation in this article is rather unreliable. Half of the article is cut off because it wants you to pay to read the rest of it. This isn't something that can be easily checked. New citation, anyone? 76.19.4.2 (talk) 03:27, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation? 

message: The video attached to the Fox News report says that the range detection is based on "turn counting"...  Seems like an interesting thing to include.
patniemeyer (talk) 15:51, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turn counting 

message: "The most recent deployment plans call for a purchase of 12,500 XM25s at a projected cost per weapon system of $25,000."
Who's deployment plans? I guess US militairy, but it might as well be any other armed force, or the plans of all armed forces together, or...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.171.208.165 (talk) 10:59, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ordered by who? 

message: Given the "may" in the article used by some random corporate public-speaking shrill, why is this explosives launcher tagged non-lethal?
I can put rubber bullets (or "small explosive charge" instead of solid-state projectile) and cold-load pretty much any firearm, and they "may" end up being non-lethal (if the combination actually does work), but I would not expect the tag to be valid for such reasons in a description of <insert favorite personal weapon>...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.249.50.161 (talk) 22:11, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Non-lethal?" 

message: The two pictures are mirror-inverted. Please correct them!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.136.203.132 (talk) 22:20, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: They are not mirror inverted. If they were the unit insignia's text would be backwards. ZStoler (talk) 21:16, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: The article should make it clear whether the project has been scrapped or not. ScienceApe (talk) 16:28, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: ATM, it says both. The most recent sources I can find, such as this one or this from December 2014, are about a competing system, SAGM. They don't say that XM25 is cancelled, but they don't say it's scheduled to be deployed either. I'd be inclined to remove both the assertions that it's been cancelled and that it's ready for deployment, and just leave that it's still under development, but I'd feel better if there were a definitive source. Rezin (talk) 23:34, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Jane's states Alliant has been given the money to get it ready for production with a ballpark date of 2016 for procurement. Herr Gruber (talk) 14:09, 19 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canceled or not canceled? 

message: Does anyone know exactly how much the ammo for the XM25 costs? The article puts it at $24, $35, and $55. Only one can be correct if any of them are. Grizzly chipmunk (talk) 15:28, 13 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: My understanding is that those are all estimates of the cost once it enters mass production. We should probalby put them all together and say something like, "estimates range from $24 to $55 per round". Rezin (talk) 23:36, 8 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ammunition Costs 

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message: Is Stars and Stripes a credible source? According to them, the XM25 was officially canceled on July 24th. Spartan198 (talk) 14:06, 14 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Officially Canceled 

message: Clearly written with an agenda. The weapon seems to have one drawback, the weight, and the section does a good job emphasizing it from all angles, several times, distorting the facts on the way. Good job, Denel marketing guy! 91.10.44.197 (talk) 17:28, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section "Drawbacks"