Talk:Rancho San Joaquin Middle School

message: There isn't anything non-encyclopediac about listing Rancho's offered courses. It could help if someone who wanted to enroll wanted to know the courses. Venado Middle School has it on their page, that's where i got the idea. 70.187.180.70 23:59, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've left a rationale at Talk:Venado Middle School. --Fang Aili 16:34, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Course list

message: Please do not revert the Teachers of the Year edit. Yanksox, if you think that there is really something non-encyclopediac about putting a list of Teachers of the Year, please leave your reasoning here. It seems exactly like something I would find in an encyclopedia.
70.187.177.70 02:52, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not too sure or keen about this. I've been looking at other "good" school articles to see what the most popular path is, just to get an idea/consesus. Yanksox 17:41, 8 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Adobe's broke for me, so second link means nothing. Thank you for verifying, obviously, you can place it on the page and source it. Thank you for your concerns. Yanksox 03:07, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

text: OK, I am CrazyRussian, and Yanksox asked me to give a third opinion here. Upon further review..... Seriously, I looked at all the diff and all the talk and read the teacher homepage and the newsletter. "John Hopkins University Teacher Fellow" is a minor award and does not really make a person notable for a mention in Wikipedia. This is a judgment call, there's no policy governing this, but I would not include that. However, there's no harm in having a really brief mention. So I will go ahead and add one. I hope that will put the matter to rest. - CrazyRussian talk/contribs/email 03:21, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teachers of the Year 

message: I have again reverted the awards section as something that does not appear to be notable or exceptional. If you have an issue with this post it on here. Yanksox 21:45, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you elaborate on this? Yanksox 21:52, 6 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia is first and foremost an encylopedia, not something that caters to everything or something to be used as a promotional tool. The list shows nothing exceptional or unique about those awards, unless it can be proved that those are: rare, unique, notable, etc. The awards should not be relisted. Yanksox 21:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to say that I think the awards should stay in. They may not, as Yanksox points out, be notable enough in themselves for an article. However, that is not an issue. The school is worthy of an article and anybody wishing to find out more information about the school would find this information of interest. However, it needs to be included from a NPOV, just stating the facts. Tyrenius 22:01, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Awards Section

message: In the noted alumni, it says that the latest one was Christopher Wong, a nationally acclaimed swimmer, which is kind of hard to believe, since he's only in 9th grade now. When I clicked on the hyperlink, it says that Christopher Wong was a screenplay writer and a piano teacher. Seems odd to me that someone wouldn't even put a wikipedia article of a "nation acclamed swimmer." I smell a fish, don't you?
--TheNextOneAcross 04:26, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For future reference, please do not just add yourself or a friend to the noted alumni. You must meet WP's guidelines on notability, and unfortunately, nationally ranked sports players and such are not notable.  Esper   rant  00:03, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Noted alumni 

message: I was wondering why this article is listed under cleanup. (I'm not trying to contest this decision; i just want to fix the article). AlexKrolewski 23:14, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks OK to me. I've removed tag. Tyrenius 01:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: I saw your assessment request at WP:SCH, im not here to assess the article, but ill just offer some suggestions to improve it:
* The layout section is pretty non-notable. Might be worth re-naming it to "Campus", and talking about the grounds, including any heritage listed buildings, sporting facilities etc.
* The section entitled "Standardized Test Results (2005)" should be re-named "academics", and also look at the schools curriculum, scholarships on offer etc.
* The departments section is non-notable and should be removed.
* The "Achievements (2005-2006)" section seems quite POV, and any notable awards should be moved into sections on "academics" or "the arts" etc.
* The article doesnt tell me much about the history of the school, the demographics, the extra-curricular activities etc. 
* The major problem is references, its got none. The article seems pretty pro-Rancho. If you need further help, please contact me on my talk page. Thanks. Twenty Years 11:56, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions 

message: I am assessing this article as Start / Mid. The main issue which is preventing this article getting B class is lack of a established reference section; references need to be added by citing them with the reference section, see WP:CITE for more. More references in general are needed too; many sections such as alumni been completely unreferenced. Some content of this article is very trivia based at some points, see WP:SCH#WNTI for guidance, make sure it all follows WP:NPOV as well. Finally, I would also suggest that the article is re-structured a bit with "Layout" been re-named to "Campus" and perhaps merging "Athletics" with "Facilities", WP:SCH#S provides some guidance. Giving "Mid" importance for alumni, awards, and history. Camaron1 | Chris (talk) 19:23, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment