Talk:Scribe

message: I notice that very often instead of Wikipedia pages showing the 1st, they articles show the Europeans only.   Re scribes, in ancient khemet aka Egypt, scribes were used but are ignored in the article.  We must stop white-washing history of humanity.  by: True Seeker Sorry if this is in the wrong place, please move to another area if necessary. I shall learn more about Wikipedia editing and continue to improve my comprehension of where and how to edit. Thanks. ==
Possibly a new article: Scribe (Egyptian).  It would cover at least three items:
:1–the art of the writing (languages, etc).
:2–the statuary themselves (One temple had 4 identical seated scribe statues).
:3--the God Thoth, the (moon, etc)god of the Scribe. ...MMcAnnis (use the four 'tildes' to sign  ~ ~ ~ ~). (no spaces)Mmcannis 15:01, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jean Miélot, a European author and scribe at work.

message: What's with the "See also" section?  What connection does peer-to-peer have to this article?  What is the purprose of the "Main" subheading, and if List of professions fits under that heading, why not Scrivener?  Why is Beowulf listed at all, much less in the "People" section?  The story Beowulf was copied and edited by scribes, but if that's the only reason, why not list most every other piece of archaic literature?  Margery Kempe and John Barbour both had scribes do some of their writing.  As did, presumably, most everyone else who needed something written in the 1300s.  Yet surely we don't intend to list all authors of that time period?  According to Talk:Ibn Warraq, that name might mean "son of a scribe", but there's apparently evidence to the contrary, so the article itself mentions nothing of scribes.  Even if Ibn Warraq did mean "son of a scribe", should this section list everyone whose name is related to the word?  Michael William Balfe is apparently listed solely because an ambiguous linking of one of his librettists led here instead of to Eugène Scribe.  Ooh, better add Eugene to the list.  And the word "scribe" doesn't appear at all in Muhammad, Baruch, or John Milton, so why are they in this list?
Sidney Rigdon appears to be the only one in the list who actually was a scribe, not merely the employer of one, and thus seems to me the only reasonable person listed in the section.  If there's going to be a list of random names and subjects, perhaps some reason should be given, especially when it's otherwise obscure. - Severinus 01:20, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "See also" section 

message: I just added the Egyptian scribe (just Stub-info), and the Pic from Commons.  Since it predates Alllllll..... later scribes, but is contemporary with the Mesopotamian, and Akkadian scribes how about if somebody pulls the pic and Stub info and starts an "egyptian scribe" article? and puts it in at least: :Category:Ancient Egyptian culture ? The egyptian scribes are obviously tied to hieroglyphs and papyrus, but not for the beginning centuries of Egypt..  from the SonoranDesert province of Arizona- ...--Mmcannis 21:53, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Egyptian scribe

message: This article, I believe started out focussed on the 'Medieval Scribe'.
Guess what: Folks-(Gals and Guys), the Cuneiform script scribes, and the Egyptian language scribes preceded them. Even the Mycenaean scribes were ahead of the Medieval scribes. take note. ..(from the SonoranDesert of Ariz.) -Mmcannis 06:32, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Outline this "Article"

message: Ironically, the last section of comments complains that Medieaval Scribes were the only ones talked about in the article. Now they're completely gone. Where are they? For that matter, what about Islamic scribes? Chinese scribes? etc. 69.95.234.102 (talk) 13:28, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Some added back, but there was never much there, & all of these need expansion Johnbod (talk) 14:08, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scribes in other cultures 

message: 216.73.77.244 asked for some expansion about scribes in the Middle Ages. Anyone interested? TheFeds 18:42, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle Ages 

message: I found the first paragraph about the Dead Sea Scrolls to be extremely offensive. Everything can be considered to have been done one way "before Christ" and then perhaps continued the same way "after Christ". This wasn't talking about chronology here ... That adds zero information to the article. Also the use of the term "Old Testament" here for documents that were physically written well before any New Testament existed is Christian-centric and also offensive. We shouldn't assume that someone from a non-Christian culture will understand offhand what the "Old Testament" is when the actual best point of reference for these documents is the term "Hebrew Bible" (or "Tanakh" but that is a bit more technical and obscure, and Hebrew Bible serves just as well here).
However, I don't even think this section belongs in this article at all. The accuracy of the transmission of the Biblical text is a very important topic, and part of the articles on textual criticism and biblical criticism. There could be corresponding long sections on the accuracy of the transmission of ... [name your favorite religious or early literary text there]. Techniques to insure scribal accuracy, as mentioned in the previous section, are relevant, but the discussion of the accuracy of the transmission of individual historical texts is not.
Epikouros (talk) 12:10, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scribes of Israel and Judaism in relation to Christianity 

message: The reference to cuneiform written on papyrus seems to be wrong:
Writing in early Mesopotamia  ... writing and arithmetics engraved in cuneiform letters into tablets of clay.[11]  ... They wrote on papyrus paper[12] as well as clay tablets. ...
This would refer to:
^ Carr, op.cit., p.39 
which in turn refers to:
^ David McLain Carr, Writing on the Tablet of the Heart: Origins of Scripture and Literature, Oxford University Press 2005, , p.66
But when I read page 39 in this book it only talks about reframing and recombining older literature
by later scribes (after the literature of Mesopotamia "settled" in to a canoncial form), but
there is no mention about writing cuneiform on papyrus. 
So, are there any other references for Mesopotamian writing on papyrus?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.11.220.249 (talk) 23:19, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mesopotamian papyrus? 

message: This redirects here, but it is not mentioned on the page. Could we introduce information about the connection? Ranze (talk) 23:25, 31 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Sopher]]

message: The Wikipedia portal on Islam has a core link that directs here, but someone has erased that page, which now comes here. There is not one word explaining why the Islam portal directs to this page, which is entirely about Egyptian & Judeochristian scribes in Europe.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.187.40.50 (talk) 19:36, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: There is also lacking of information about Asian scribes in general, like from India, China, Japan, etc. Rupert Loup (talk) 16:49, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I think one difficulty is the difference (perceived or real) between scribes and calligraphers. We have numerous articles, some of which are now listed under the "See also" heading in this article, on calligraphy in those cultures. Not so much on scribal writing as such, since scribes tend to have bureaucratic and secretarial functions, or preserve sacred writings where exactitude is a priority. It's a tenuous distinction, and of course there are, for instance, Chinese court scribes (hence the section in the article). But there seems to be a real difference in the scholarship as to whether "scribe" or "calligrapher" is used, with the latter predominant in most of the cultures listed as omitted. Cynwolfe (talk) 21:05, 13 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Muslim group 

message: Can anyone explain what this phrase (from the article) means, which to me is ambiguous?
: The middle paragraph, word and letter must correspond to those of the original document.
Thanks Eteb3 (talk) 21:06, 19 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sofer / Jewish scribes