Talk:Susan Ivanova

message: I'm surprised there doesn't seem to be any mention of Ivanova's grudge against Garibaldi due to his (percieved) betrayal of Sheridan. --R.G. 03:48, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The earing was one of a pair, the other of which she gave to her brother, who died wearing it during the Earth-Minbari war. --April Arcus 04:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Stating that Susan's name would be Susan Andreevna (should actually be Andreyevna) because her father was Andrei (correctly Andrey) is very inaccurate. Susan cannot possibly be a name of an ethnic Russian (or a Russian-born Jew), because Russian names have endings according to the gender (a good example is Aleksandra feminin, Aleksandr masculin, you can see analogy in some English names as well, like Paula - Paul). There is a corresponding Russian name Susanna (pronounced in Russian Soo-sahn-nuh), that would be a good name for Ivanova. But American writers are often too arrogant (or too cheap?) to ask an ethnic Russian's opinion on Russian names (a good example is Tom Clancy, his Russian characters' names are a total mess), so Susan it is. Susan (which a Russian would pronounce Soo-sahn) would be an (unexisting) male name.
Because of all this, "Susan Andreyevna" would sound for anybody whose native language is Russian fake, phony and just linguistically impossible (even for a Russian who never went to school and is a complete imbecile, I am not talking about PhDs here). Point is, being Russian, Susan would never call herself (when speaking Russian) neither Susan nor Susan Andreyevna. Speaking of herself in English with an American, she would call herself Susan, of course (not "Susan Andreyevna", though), but in Russian -- Susanna Andreyevna or just Susanna, assuming that this were the name her parents gave her.
The whole mention of "Susan Andreevna" thing should be edited out.
--Rozmysl (talk) 07:09, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: This is grossly misleading. The only possible relationship with another woman that it has been indicated Ivanova was in was with Talia Winters, and the evidence that this relationship was ever physically consumated is extremely dubious. In fact, they are never seen to kiss or even embrace on screen. This is the only homosexual relationship that B5 has even alluded to.
By contrast, Star Trek has dealt with homosexuality on a number of occasions (putting aside the campy bisexuality of Intendant Kira in the mirror universe) - most notably the DS9 episode "Rejoined", which was far more overt than this, but also (obliquely) in the TNG episode "The Outcast". --April Arcus 04:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: * Good point, I have altered this section, and removed the statement that Claudia Christian referred to her character as bisexual until such a time when sources can be found. Dablueeagle 08:33, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I think Talia stated when she woke up Ivanova was gone, not specifically saying she was missing from the same bed, but Talia does run her hand where she might have expected Ivanova to be in the bed. None of this proves a thing, and would be conclusions/original research on our part. I bet JMS intended this to be left up for us to decide, though. Kresock (talk) 04:12, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sexuality

message: Shouldn't there be a reference in the article to the fact that Ivanova's family had a Jewish background ? 161.24.19.82 19:00, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Judaism

message: There was an interview with Claudia Christian published in FHM some time around 1997 in which she discussed Ivanova's relationship with Talia.  Unfortunately, I don't seem to have a copy any more.  But if somebody does, it might help flesh out the section on this a little. JulesH 19:18, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible source for additional information 

message: I recall an episode where Ivanova said she arranged to have someone grow coffee for her in hydroponics. Interesting, because I just watched "The Gathering" and Lt. Cmdr. Takashima made the same arrangement! It seemed like Takashima's traits, at least some of them, were transferred to Ivanova. GBC 21:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Coffee in the hydroponics bay

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