Talk:Harald Bluetooth

message: I have a vague memory of Harald Bluetooth being the first Christian king of Norway. Same guy, different guy, or am i just remembering wrong? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.37.81.xxx (talk) 10:27, 18 October 2001 (UTC)
replies: text: It is possible, but I think it is folklore. Another possibility I've heard, is that his name is actually misspelled (I have this from a Danish book, of somewhat questionable character): "Tand" is actually supposed to be spelled "than", which is a title, equivalent of a duke. "Blå" was supposed to have been blod (the Danish word for blood), or blot, and so his name should have been Harald Blottan - a "blodhertug" (Blood Duke) or "offerhertug" (Duke of Sacrifice), because he sacrificed the old nordic gods, and made Christianity the national religion of Denmark. --Niffux 12:53, 26 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  Tand is just the modern Danish spelling of Old Norse 'tönn'. Trying to reinterpret the meaning of his name based upon a modern spelling of it is simply ignorance on your part - of Old Norse, Modern Danish, and linguistic evolutionary processes. BodvarBjarki (talk) 12:27, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I believe that it should read Gyrithe Olafsdatter (or Olafsdotter) since she is female. Although I'm not an expert in this, in my family tree I have her listed as the daughter of Olof Bjornsson.
'Datter' would be modern Danish, whereas 'Dottir' would be the Old Norse. She would correctly be Olafsdottir. I'll edit the article to reflect this, it seems like the original writer wasn't fully aware of Old Norse patronymic conventions. BodvarBjarki (talk) 15:49, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gyrithe Olafsson 

message: Why in this article is his name spelt 'Harold'? In fact the page is inconsistent, it is spelt both 'Harald' and 'Harold'. The article is linked to in most places as 'Harald', so I think this should be used. That and the fact that it is the correct spelling.
: You are right. The title of this article should be Harald I of Denmark, and Harold I of Denmark should be redirected there. If there are no protests until next time I read this article, I will take this as a yes, and venture to change it so.DanielDemaret 11:32, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Do it. --194.47.143.5 23:22, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  This one really annoyed me. Page moved. Valentinian (talk) 23:52, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling of Harald 

message: I seem to remember reading in a book written by Robert Hardy, entitled "Longbow" about Harald Bluetooth's death. From what I remember he died by being shot with an arrow up the backside by warming himself over a fire. 
I do not have a copy of this book but if it can be confirmed then it would be a "nice!" addition
--Peter
It is mostly down to anglo-saxons at the time feeling sour from their losses.... it does not hurt ones pride too much if you can succesfully ridicule your "nemesis"..... Infact he is more likely, in my oppinion, to have died in the civil war that was initiated by his own son (Svein/Sven Forkbeard/Tveskæg)....
--Lasse
Actually the story is that Harald had gone to the bushes to relieve himself. When he bends down he is shot by an arrow directly in his behind. It derives from Saxo, but is nothing but a "good story".
SaxoX 23:53, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually it's from the Jomsvíkinga saga - but it is still a good story... ;o) --dllu 19:47, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death of Harald  

message: Are there any historical sources that uses the surname Gormson of Harald I? Mossig (talk) 17:37, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Was it really at that time? I know that there is at least one rune inscription where he is named "Gorms son", as in two separate words. I was under the impression that the use of surnames as in "Gormson" is of a later date. Mossig (talk) 21:21, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Danes, like other Scandinavians, did not have family names, but used patronymics.  Harald I is actually much more widely referred to by historians by his nickname "Bluetooth", just as his son would be called Svein Forkbeard.  But his great-grandson, also Svein, is usually known as Svein Estridsson (after his mother, as hers was the royal line) or sometimes Svein Ulfsson.  (You'll notice that spellings are all over the place - it depends on which variant you get.  There is no "right" way to spell any of these names - just an English or a Danish or a Norwegian or an Old Norse...)  But it's definitely correct to refer to Harald Bluetooth as Harald Gormson or Gormsson.  It's his patronymic.  But, of course, because it isn't a "surname" (more properly referred to as a family name for clarity), his son Svein Forkbeard would never be called Svein Gormsson, but Svein Haraldsson. *jb (talk) 02:51, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gormson? 

message: It is said that a missionary receives permission to preach from Harald in 935.  That was the year Harald was born -- and about 25 years before he was baptized.  Quite a precocious little tyke.---12.187.142.66 (talk) 18:53, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Anachronism

message: Is there a possibility that harald Bluetooth came not from a dental disease or whatnot but from this :
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2006/02/0203_060203_viking_teeth.html
Since many "nobles" or members of fighting groups and merchants would file their teeth for a reason (aesthetical, victory marks, etc), it may point to the fact that he did have pigmented filed teeth instead of a disease...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.151.69.245 (talk) 19:51, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Other articles indicate that Vikings also painted their teeth, most often with red resin, but blue paint (possibly from copper sulfate) may have been unique and notable enough to give him his nickname.Landroo (talk) 00:32, 2 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bluetooth? 

message: Should  be added to the marriages and children section, or is it too tangential, referring to the descendants of only one of Bluetooth's progeny? ᛭ LokiClock (talk) 22:16, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cnut family tree 

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was: page moved per discussion below. Nice use of "modus tollens", too. - GTBacchus(talk) 22:45, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Harald I of Denmark → Harald Bluetooth — It seems like this was what he was mainly known as and all Danish monarchs before Sweyn II, with the exception of Harald II of Denmark, seems to be under their nicknames: see Sweyn Forkbeard, Gorm the Old, and Cnut the Great.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 05:36, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *Comment Except when they are not. For instance: Sweyn Forkbeard, Sveinn Hákonarson, Sven Knutsson, Sverre Sigurdsson ("Sverre" is a nick for "Sven", like "Dick" for "Richard").walk victor falk talk 06:45, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

text: Comment:The most common name is still Harald Bluetooth and it would make the Danish kings prior to Sweyn II more consistent, under there nicknames instead of their regnal numbers.  A search for scholarly sources on Google Books gets me 24 hits for "Harald I of Denmark", 5000 hits for "Harald Bluetooth", [3,110 hits]  for "Harald Bluetooth" -I, and there is 9,570 hits for "Harald I" which some actually refer to Harald I of Norway.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 07:02, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not consistant with Sweyn Forkbeard, Gorm the Old, and Cnut the Great.--Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 19:03, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Those should be RM's to Monarch # of country GoodDay (talk) 19:06, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. And "Cnut" should be Canute!SergeWoodzing (talk) 11:33, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

text: That would seem logical, if this move fails, and modus tollens if these moves are not to be proposed, then the arguments so far against this move become unsupportable. Andrewa (talk) 14:50, 22 December 2010 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
I have to write here, that new research has shown, who baptised Harald Bluetoth, and it was a guy from Cologne. Will be back with details a.s.a.p.
Jan Eskildsen87.57.196.63 (talk) 22:44, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Request Move

message: It's quite possible that instead of from rotted teeth or a tooth disease, Haraldr may have been called bluetooth for body modifications he made to his teeth. Viking Age remains (including from this time period) occasionally turn up teeth with deep grooves carved into them -- these grooves may have also been stained with dye. 68.1.172.2 (talk) 17:06, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  On Harald's nickname 

message: Was he converted by "Poppa" or "Poppo", or is this the same name written different in different sources? 82.212.59.114 (talk) 08:22, 8 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Same person, different spellings. Agricolae (talk) 13:16, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Poppa" or "Poppo" 

message: https://www.bluetooth.com/about-us/bluetooth-origin/
The story behind how Bluetooth® technology got its name
We all recognize the “Bluetooth” brand, but we take for granted its significance and how much it impacts our lives. From smartphones to headphones and beyond, we rely on Bluetooth technology to free us from the tether of wired tech.
The Man Behind the Tooth
For how innovative the technology, the name doesn’t sound techie. It’s not an acronym and doesn’t stand for anything. So what does it mean?
Surprisingly, the name dates back more than a millennia to King Harald “Bluetooth” Gormsson who was well known for two things:
Uniting Denmark and Norway in 958.
His dead tooth, which was a dark blue/grey color, and earned him the nickname Bluetooth.
Code for Collaboration
In 1996, three industry leaders, Intel, Ericsson, and Nokia, met to plan the standardization of this short-range radio technology to support connectivity and collaboration between different products and industries.
During this meeting, Jim Kardach from Intel suggested Bluetooth as a temporary code name. Kardach was later quoted as saying, “King Harald Bluetooth…was famous for uniting Scandinavia just as we intended to unite the PC and cellular industries with a short-range wireless link.”
Bluetooth was only intended as a placeholder until marketing could come up with something really cool.
The One and Only
Later, when it came time to select a serious name, Bluetooth was to be replaced with either RadioWire or PAN (Personal Area Networking). PAN was the front runner, but an exhaustive search discovered it already had tens of thousands of hits throughout the internet.
A full trademark search on RadioWire couldn’t be completed in time for launch, making Bluetooth the only choice. The name caught on fast and before it could be changed, it spread throughout the industry, becoming synonymous with short-range wireless technology.
The ‘initial’ Bluetooth Logo
The Bluetooth logo is a bind rune merging the Younger Futhark runes (Hagall) (ᚼ) and (Bjarkan) (ᛒ), Harald’s initials. Adam 19:26, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: This connection is already established on the article. --TylerBurden (talk) 23:21, 5 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latest source link from Bluetooth wireless spec story