Talk:Ritchie Valens

message: You would think that someone who genuinely appreciates this music -- especially La Bamba --might pay 30 or 40 dollars and reinstate the Ritchie Valens website(s) linked to the Wiki article...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.217.176.231 (talk) 18:08, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The Official Site and Fan Forum Pages Have Both Expired

message: I'm disappointed with the quality of the writing, editing and fact checking on this page. I just corrected several glaring grammatical errors and saw many more style and grammar errors that I didn't have time to touch. Could someone with at least an eighth grade education please consider cleaning up this page? It's a shame that such an influential musician's Wikipedia entry is such an atrocity.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.150.27.130 (talk) 13:29, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Poor writing/editing

message: Additional information about Ritchie's mom & dad, siblings should be added to his bio. Pedianut 04:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Family

message: He is of partial Yaqui descent —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.94.209.180 (talk • contribs) 23:30, 14 April 2007
His great-grandfather was a full blooded Yaqui.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.228.147.84 (talk • contribs) 
:We'd need a source. DonIago (talk) 21:27, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Of Yaqui Descent 

message: I noted the following in the segment about his manager:
Similarly, it was Keane who decided to shorten his surname to Valens from Valenzuela, with the intention that a Latino name would make the DJs think that it was Latino music for a Latino audience - Keane wanted Ritchie's appeal to audiences of all kinds to be in the songs themselves.
While I'm no expert on Valens, I have never heard that his manager was a ...  It's not on the Wikipage for his manager either.  However, I thought I would make sure there is some basis for this before deleting it.  If it's not true, then it is certainly defamation and should be removed. JimZDP 00:46, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question about Valens manager 

message: i did it because it did not emphasize what was his most notable successes and why they were important. I shifted the info about burial and hall of fame stuff to the end of this section for that reason.Kitten b 06:31, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: rearranged legacy section

message: See Wikipedia:Footnotes for an explanation of how to generate footnotes using the <ref(erences/)> tags Nhl4hamilton (talk) 04:49, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations & References

message: The article appears to contradict itself. Evidence:
"One day, a neighbor came across Ritchie trying to play a guitar that had only two strings. He re-strung the instrument, and taught Ritchie the fingerings of some chords." - Career, Paragraph I
"A completely self-taught musician," - Career, Paragraph III
Marikun (talk) 01:54, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradictory 

message: Ritchie Valens was American not some guy who was of "Mexican Origins born in the U.S".
I have changed that part since everyone on wikipedia who was born in America are known as Americans and i do not see how being of Mexican decent excludes Ritchie Valens or makes him less of an American.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nothingbutgrains (talk • contribs) 01:42, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I keep having to change that back. Must have missed one. Thanks for taking care of it. →Wordbuilder (talk) 02:47, 25 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Looking from a distance, I see two separate issues: on the one hand USA <==> "American", on the other hand whether or how to refer to his origins. My own wording would be "RV was a US-an singer of Mexican parents" , or perhaps "with Latin roots". As I learned at school "America" includes both Mexico and the USA! But I am a long way off, and I know the subject is delicate so I will not enter into edit wars. Jan olieslagers (talk) 20:12, 21 July 2010 (UTC)

text: This is kind of irritating.  My father was born in the Netherlands, does that make me "Dutch-American?"  Valens was born in the US.  He is American.  If one must insist on referencing his ethnicity as well as his nationality, then he is an American Latino.  Whether for pride or prejudice, this labeling is factually erroneous...and it's made triply irritating by knowing that I can't just fix it because it'll turn into a revert war. I miss when this used to be a quality information source. 173.46.242.185 (talk) 07:55, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  People born in America are Americans 

message: Admittedly there are varying versions of this story, with even Dion DiMucci claiming to be the person who took part in the coin toss with Valens - however, most sources say it was Tommy Allsup.  Waylon Jennings gave up his seat on the plane for J.P. "Big Bopper" Richardson because the latter had a cold.  MFlet1 (talk) 16:09, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coin toss 

message: Article has been tagged for needing sources long-term. Feel free to reinsert the below material with appropriate references. DonIago (talk) 12:41, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced material 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: 07/09/2016 22:08 - BEVERLY MENDHEIM wrote:
> *TO WHOM THIS MAY CONCERN:*
> *Today, I noticed that my book, Ritchie Valens, First Latino Rocker, was missing from the WIKIPEDIA references.*
 *Please note and insert the following"*
> *RITCHIE VALENS FIRST LATINO ROCKER*
> *author: Beverly Mendheim*
> *Bilingual Review Press, Arizona State University, 1987, 2002*
>> *Thank you.*
24.56.249.128 (talk) 01:16, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Your book is not currently used as a reference for any information in the article, so it is not appropriate to list your book. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 02:02, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps a less belligerent approach along the lines of As a reference that might be useful for this article. As you are the author I advise against you adding this as a reference, but one of the other editors may do so. David notMD (talk) 03:27, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody is being belligerent here, . Cullen328 Let's discuss it 04:52, 16 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  wikipedia reference: RITCHIE VALENS, FIRST LATINO ROCKER. author, Beverly Mendheim (book) 

message: Article is contradictory.  In two places it states his birth name was Richard Steven Valenzuela (actually three places, as the photo of his gravestone also says Richard Steven Valenzuela).  In the Infobox it states it was Ricardo Esteban Valenzuela (with the hyphenate Reyes, from his mother).  I think the evidence is on the former and will change the infobox.  Sir Rhosis (talk) 21:43, 6 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Birth Name

message: Following this edit by , I was surprised to find a "T" in this article's title. The source I used for that edit in question certainly spells it "Richie", and indeed a random Google search seems to have a mix of things. However a books search (which is more likely to contain reliable and trustworthy sources) has numerous hits for "Richie". I do tend to notice if somebody's got the same name (with the same spelling as me) or not! Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 22:53, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The highest quality sources say "Ritchie". His albums use the spelling "Ritchie". Both book-length biographies use the spelling "Ritchie". The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame uses the spelling "Ritchie". The New York Times used the spelling "Ritchie" when he died in 1959 and when they reviewed the 1987 film La Bamba. The "Richie" spelling is used in various passing mentions when careful proofreading and fact checking is less likely. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 23:15, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Well you learn something new everyday! I wonder how I've managed to miss this for about 30+ years? :-/ Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 23:18, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Now we both know, Ritchie. Cullen328 Let's discuss it 01:17, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

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message: Can you identify any notable equity gaps? Does the article underrepresent or misrepresent historically marginalized populations?
I noticed that the article overall had some missing components regarding Ritchie Valens life. I believe that the individual is being underrepresented in the way where those who read are missing out on who Ritchie Valens is! There needs to be more on his family, personal life, as well as on his legacy that he left and how it has impact individuals, and music in general. I would like to know and have more on his impact on today's society as well!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aortizvaldez01 (talk • contribs) 05:36, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evaluation 

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thread_title:  Image 

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message: Hi there. I am not sure if this is the right place to post this, but I have a higher quality version of the public domain image that's currently the main photo for the Ritchie Valens page if you would like to use that instead. https://i.imgur.com/ta8vv03.png 2603:8000:F000:E3:7890:697B:7E68:FF04 (talk) 22:06, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason we can say that the current image is in the public domain, is because it's an ad in billboard without a copyright notice (per C:template:PD-US-no notice ad). While it's possible (and probably likely) that the full image is in the public domain, it would need a different PD rational (such as c:Template:PD-US-no notice, or others at c:Commons:Hirtle chart) and that would need to be individually proved. If you think you can prove that for that particular image, I would recommend you upload it to commons (C:Special:UploadWizard). Cakelot1 ☞️ talk 23:49, 20 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I see. Thank you. Do you know how I can go about proving its public domain status? This is all pretty new to me and would like to help anyway I can. 104.173.30.10 (talk) 19:49, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Higher quality image