Talk:Mountain and moorland pony breeds

message: Hey TPC, what is a "jodphur clip?  No wikipedia article on it -- the term not used in the US -- are you referring to the little garters that they wear just below the knee, or are you referring to those little elastics that clip on either seam of the pantleg and run under the boot to hold the leg down?  (Don't explain here, find or create an article and wikilink to it so only those who care need to click the link). ;-)  Montanabw(talk) 03:17, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Who, me?  Never heard of it .....lol!  Pesky (talk …stalk!) 07:39, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terminology 

message: Found this hidden text in the article: "SPSBS says registered Shetlands can't be "spotted" whatever that means". I believe that what it means is that Shetlands cannot be spotted. The breed standard says they can be any other colour; obviously, that would and in practice does include pied. Where's the problem? Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 13:30, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I found it in the breed standard and you deleted it during our edit spat, re-inserting "piebald and skewbald" -- and given that you sometimes want to do everything exactly as the official people say, I just popped it back in as hidden text until this all gets sorted out.  Someone else said that "spotted' in the UK means leopard-spotted (like Appaloosas) whereas in the USA, "spotted" includes both Pinto and Leopard patterns, as we don't say "pied" save for the verb form of a baked good thrown into someone's face.  I really don't want to make a moral issue out of this, I'm just sick of stuff being reverted by you just because, apparently, I'm the one saying it.    Montanabw(talk) 18:12, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I restored the links to piebald and skewbald because they led immediately to the explanations of those words, which the other article did not. Spotted means "with spots", the Lp gene there's been such a lot of fuss about in another article, which makes horses spotty, and which many breeds have, but Shetlands may not, I understand. Pied is probably used more often of cattle, birds and pipers than of horses, I agree, but it's a common enough word with a perfectly clear meaning. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 18:39, 27 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no kick with piebald and skewbald, all I'm doing is directly using the exact word ("spotted") that what I understand to be the official Stud book society (SPSBS) used on their website. Normally, you are the one insisting we do things like that, (use the exact words) so now you want to do OR and put in an uncited standard about the pinto colors? Help me out here, you're changing your game plan on me.  Montanabw(talk) 16:06, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: For inf, "spotted" for horses in British Isles usage only means leopard-spotted, not pied, so that is what the Shetland soc means.  Pied horses are called "skewbald" or "piebald", or if referring to both together, "coloured".  "Pied" is used for birds (magpie, pied crow, pied flycatcher etc), pipers and rarely for cattle, but not for horses, and in fact is not really used at all outside these fields, for which we'd generally say "black and white" (for example you'd get a funny look if you said a cat or a dog was pied).  Richard New Forest (talk) 22:21, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No argument with Richard or Pesky from me.  Montanabw(talk) 23:42, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spotted? 

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