Talk:ICAD (software)

message: As the aura of numeric modes fades, and the mania abates, this little example will be useful. So, I put a little note in the Talk page of the constraint satisfaction page. We need to balance symbolic/numeric/proof theoretic/etc. modes with the trained intuition brought by the engineer. jmswtlk (talk) 13:13, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Turns out that there has been lots of KBE work done over the past two decades. Some of this was done via embedded systems from 3rd parties. But, here is an example of ICAD use that needs to be used here (KBE Design Methodology, Collegiate Level). jmswtlk (talk) 02:32, 1 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical significance 

message: This is a first attempt. There are plenty of holes to fill. 
Anyone with information, please contribute. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.66.111.249 (talk) 17:27, 3 November 2005
::There have been many changes, but we need to mention projects. For me, the Boeing 777 has to be represented. It was a case where KBE was both new and necessary. And, it produced benefits such that subsequent programs want more KBE. Of course, 777 used ICAD (at the time, SUN workstations tied to RSs and mainframes). ... I was still using ICAD in 2005 when I retired on some early modeling for the 787 (perhaps, the culmination at Boeing). jmswtlk (talk) 01:11, 21 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Status

message: The 'ktiworld' domain name expired on 01/22/2006. It is 'pending renewal or deletion'. 
This article will need to be updated accordingly (reference pointers, etc.) jmswtlk 20:54, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Everywhere there is 'www.ktiworld.com, change to 'ds-kti'. jmswtlk 17:24, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: KTI

message: Today I restored Greenspun links that were removed by anonymous (in a sense, editing without identification can be considered vandalism). jmswtlk 14:05, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
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message: In the Reference section, #10, #11, and #12 have material that is specific to the 777. 
:#10 provides a Thesis in which analysis results are shown from the viewpoint of Management and Chemical Engineering. See Figure 6.7 for a view of the relationship between the skin, frame, stringer and shear tie for a panel (in this case, the Crown panel). The Thesis gives a good notion of the fit that was achieved. This analysis was several years after the initial design process. KBE was first introduced with the Program. 
:#11 was sponsored by Boeing. The presentation mentions the various types of computer-based analysis that were becoming possible. In the early stages of design, such work would produce results that had an impact on parts (general sense, particularly structural that were associated) that required adjustment of fit. A master dimension data base tracked these changes. Each discipline had to conform. A major CAD system provided the interface to all processes. KBE helped keep things in sync (such as adjusting geometry as required after analysis).
:#12 deals composites, however they are compared to earlier approaches. Figures 15 and 16 deal with the 737, however it is from a Program that was after the 777 (and applied lessons learned). Figure 18 (see image this page - that needs to be replaced) is from the 747. Figure 22 has a distant shot of a fuselage under assembly for the 777. Details are more readily seen in the 737 shot. For the composite plane, 787, there is some discussion of shear ties.
We could find a lot more to support this section. jmswtlk (talk) 20:30, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real example, fuselage work 

message: The use of KBE pertains competitive advantage. As the first article suggests, there has been little written about the subject.  
::1. Verhagen, W. et al (2011) "A critical review of Knowledge-Based Engineering: An identification of research challenges" Advanced Engineering Informatics (ScienceDirect) 
::2. Van der Velden, C. (2008) "An adaptable methodology for automation application development" 26th International Congress of the Aeronautical Sciences (www.icas.org)  
::3. La Rocca, G (2012) "Knowledge based engineering: Between AI and CAD. Review of a language based technology to support engineering design" Advanced Engineering Informatics (researchgate.net) 
::4. BTW, Stanley Knutson points to this page. Stanley on KBE. 
::5. KTI buys ICAD (Nov. 20, 2002). 
::6. Seshasai, S. (2002) "A Knowledge Based Approach to Facilitate Engineering Design" MIT (Master's Thesis) - describes the SSPARCy project and its system based upon MATLAB, MS Excel, and Visual Basis. 
::7. Armour, P. G. (2013) "How We Build Things: ... and Why Things are 90% Complete) Communications of the ACM (see Comments)  
::8. Bermell-Garcia, P. (2007) "A Metamodel to annotate knowledge based Engineering codes as enterprise knowledge resources" Cranfield University (PhD Thesis) -- Chapter 7 lays out an example, similar to ICAD's. Note: Pages 301 to 326 - my response to author's survey.  
::9. Cui, J. et al (2015) "Structural topology design of container ship based upon knowledge-based engineering and level set method" China Ocean Engineering (springer.com)
:The following three articles provide information specific to the 777 program. See Section (above) "Real exampled needed for a discussion"  
::10. Gayer, Kenneth S. (1998) "Hardware variability corrective action in Boeing 777 final assembly" MIT Thesis (via DSpace@MIT) 
::11. Smith, Brian (2003) " The Boeing 777" Centennial of Flight (via Advanced Materials and Processes)
::12. Mikulik, Z., Haase, P. (2012) "CODAMEIN - Composite Damage Metrics and Inspection" Bishop GmbH - Aeronautical Engineers (via European Aviation Safety Agency) 
::13. ...
Above is a list to be used for the article. Some mention ICAD. jmswtlk (talk) 18:44, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
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replies: text: Thank you. I will see what happened to Delft's material. jmswtlk (talk) 19:29, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
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