Talk:Chibi (style)

message: It seems you are confusing chibi with superdeformed. Chibi is a more childlike version without the extreme proportions, whereas superdeformed has that more shrunken down look and usually doesn't look childlike.
The style you talk about in RPG titles in the earlie 90s is actually superdeformed and not chibi; this was done because of the hardware limitations at the time.
I don't really know much about it in print media.
Sorry if my English is not that good.
--141.76.1.122
I had no problems reading your English.  Are you referring to the word "chibi" used in Japanese, or in English? Because loanwords tend to evolve into separate words. For example, the word "mail" in Japanese refers specifically to e-mail.  The word "soy," while originally a single word, now means "soy bean" in English and "soy sauce" in Japanese. We should describe words as they are, rather than what one thinks how the words should mean. I was under the impression that "chibi" means "super-deformed" in English. In any case I thik it's hard to state what a new slang term does not mean.
--Tokek 09:37, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The initial use of 'chibi' 

message: There is nothing backing up the pronounciation or even listing the alternate pronounciation (chib-ee). If no one makes any changes I will. Timekeeper 20:10, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronounciation

message: If you're going to insist on nominating this for deletion (a really stupid idea - you'll lose), follow proper proceedures as outlined in WP:AfD. Snarfies 18:33, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Using the  tag is part of the proper AFD procedures when it's believed that the deletion will not be contested. But since you are contesting the articles deletion, the next stage is to got to WP:AFD proper for a full debate. --Farix (Talk) 19:16, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion

message: This page is looking a lot better. Good job! ~ JohnnyMrNinja 22:16, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wow 

message: Chibi is a widely used slangy noun in Japan. The definision is
# a short and small person.
# a peewee, a tiny/wee tot.
Examples: うちのちび My little boy/kid. ちびというあだ名の少年 a boy nicknamed 'Shorty'. The word is used as a dog/cat's name. The pronunciation of chi is as in Wichita and bi is, not bee, but  as in bambi or bibbidi Babbidi Boo. Oda Mari (talk) 06:22, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of  the word 

message: History of the deletion
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Chibi_%28term%29&diff=570426825&oldid=570373447
The usage is too obvious to site any basis. It is common not to describe something regarding discrimination as a formal documentation as some discriminating words are often deleted from some major sites.
http://kotobank.jp/word/%E3%81%A1%E3%81%B3
2. 年少者。子供。軽んじたり，かわいらしいという気持ちをこめて用いる。 「生意気な－め」 
This site shows the meaning similar to the deleted part, but still feels intention to also deleting the meaning of the straight usage for discrimination. 軽んじる meaning "look down on" has relationship with Confucianism(儒教), which has the characteristic thought that younger people should show respect to elder people. This led contrarily elder people look down on younger people in all generations. This is why usually used for children or pets.
If you doubt, just try to test it. It's easy. Just call a Japanese friend "Chibi" with non respective voice. 
Of course, there are the meaning of small and pretty as described but depends on the situation or context. It'll be difficult for foreigners.
にょろん (talk) 17:46, 15 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Your addition did not have any RS. The term "often" has discriminating or insulting sense in Japan? The linked page does not say so. Please provide RS first. And I've never heard that the term had anything to do with Confucianism. I'd like to see RS about it. Oda Mari (talk) 17:27, 16 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment to deletion by [[Oda Mari]] 

message: I'm not a manga reader but I landed here looking for the meaning of Chibi-Robo! which is a series of Nintendo video games.
Maybe it could be mentioned after Chibiusa and then the meaning of chibi from Chibi-Robo! could link back to this entry? Bergamote (talk) 21:58, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to Chibi-Robo! 

message: ===Super deformed===
The following are references that were used in the now merged article (Super deformed):
"What is chibi or Super Deformed (SD)?"chibi style - anime, manga, cartoon, comics - SiffertartSuper Deformed SOPI - Demented StuffThe Art of Drawing Manga & Comic Book Characters: Discover "SD Models: Super-Deformed Character Models - CiteSeerX"Clash of Clans' 5 keys to success 1. Bring in both the casual and the hardcore playersJapan gets official Harry Potter chibi art, and it’s as adorable as you’d expectConsuming Race Page50 Item21The Modern Amazons: Warrior Women On-ScreenIssues in Computer Engineering: 2013 EditionLeague of Legends comic roundup: Godlike!DuetlolMini-Sized Supercars: The 'Super Deformed' Lamborghini ATV Is a Hit in Japan - Trend HunterEXTREME SGD - Avengers Hulk and Thor Action Figure Set - Funko Fabrikations- SHIPS FREE![file:///C:/Users/Public/Downloads/Zhu_Junyu.pdf Applying 2D Japanese Super-Deformed
character to traditional American animation]Body-shape Transfer for Super Deformation of 3D Character ModelsManga Mania Chibi and Furry Characters: How to Draw the Adorable Mini《龍之谷》研發商新作《地城特遣隊》韓版首度封測體驗如何使用3ds Max制作可爱的卡通猫 步骤03：构图
These were all used to source: 
"Super deformed, or SD, is a specific style of Japanese caricature" 
These sources may be useful when gone through. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:03, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference dump

message: The following are references that were used in the now merged article (Super deformed):
"What is chibi or Super Deformed (SD)?"chibi style - anime, manga, cartoon, comics - SiffertartSuper Deformed SOPI - Demented StuffThe Art of Drawing Manga & Comic Book Characters: Discover "SD Models: Super-Deformed Character Models - CiteSeerX"Clash of Clans' 5 keys to success 1. Bring in both the casual and the hardcore playersJapan gets official Harry Potter chibi art, and it’s as adorable as you’d expectConsuming Race Page50 Item21The Modern Amazons: Warrior Women On-ScreenIssues in Computer Engineering: 2013 EditionLeague of Legends comic roundup: Godlike!DuetlolMini-Sized Supercars: The 'Super Deformed' Lamborghini ATV Is a Hit in Japan - Trend HunterEXTREME SGD - Avengers Hulk and Thor Action Figure Set - Funko Fabrikations- SHIPS FREE![file:///C:/Users/Public/Downloads/Zhu_Junyu.pdf Applying 2D Japanese Super-Deformed
character to traditional American animation]Body-shape Transfer for Super Deformation of 3D Character ModelsManga Mania Chibi and Furry Characters: How to Draw the Adorable Mini《龍之谷》研發商新作《地城特遣隊》韓版首度封測體驗如何使用3ds Max制作可爱的卡通猫 步骤03：构图
These were all used to source: 
"Super deformed, or SD, is a specific style of Japanese caricature" 
These sources may be useful when gone through. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:03, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Super deformed

message: The following sources were used in external links in the article "Q-version":
* Q-version grade-school Chinese language textbook, online text from Sina.com https://web.archive.org/web/20071201184212/http://book.sina.com.cn:80/nzt/1094527462_qyuwen/index.shtml
* Q-version Ming Dynasty costumes, created by graphics artists on a Ming Dynasty costumes forum https://web.archive.org/web/20090911154257/http://www.ming-yiguan.com:80/viewthread.php?tid=1896
* Characters from Wulin Waizhuan, a popular Chinese Kungfu video game, all rendered in a typical Q-version anime style https://web.archive.org/web/20080309095424/http://www1.jjtang.com:80/blog/blog-htm-do-showone-itemid-82241-type-blog.html
* Mark Rowswell, also known as Dashan, in his Q-version form http://www.sc.xinhua.org/content/2004-11/05/content_3463590.htm
* Beijing Opera characters, Q-version https://web.archive.org/web/20080421061900/http://culture.qianlong.com:80/6931/2006/08/21/53@3377547.htm
* Characters from the classical fantasy romance Journey to the West, rendered in abstract, stylistic Q-version style http://bbs.chahua.org/read.php?tid=45843
Since the article was fully unsourced I just made it a redirect to this one, again going through these sources might add info to the article. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 14:12, 23 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Q-version

message: I know this debate raged on a few years back, but I just wanted to throw in another perspective. My interpretation has always been that labeling something "SD" (or super deformed) is more about the disproportionately-sized head-to-body ratio. Whereas, "chibi" means small, chubby, and child-like. The two are very often connected and used interchangeably, but that doesn't mean it's entirely correct. Take a look at the toyline for manga/anime series Kinnikuman... There have been many sets of rubber kinkeshi ("Kin" for Kinnikuman, "keshi" short for "keshigomu" meaning eraser), including two distinct sets of SD kinkeshi AND Chibi kinkeshi.
Here's a link to a Brief Guide to Kinkeshi Types on LittleRubberGuys.com. There, you can see the difference between SD and Chibi kinkeshi.
Now I don't know when the chibi vs SD conversation became a point of contention, but I can say that the SD Kinkeshi came out as far back as 1987 with that name. I'm not entirely sure on the release date of the Chibi Kinkeshi line, but it very likely was around the same time. At least, in this instance, there is a distinct, recognizable difference between the two terms. So take that for what it's worth... Thanks for reading! 
Dahumorist (talk) 00:30, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Chibi vs Super Deformed revisited

message: A chi i is a deformed anime character 2601:681:4580:2C10:4562:4186:5CD6:6A45 (talk) 02:09, 28 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chibi