Talk:Spiritualist church

message: Wonewoc, Wisconsin has the Wonewoc Spiritualist Camp.I added this to the articleRFD 22:39, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wonewoc, Wisconsin 

message: According to the guidelines (WP:EL) there are way too many external links in this article. Someone who has been putting in the links would be the best person to clean up a bit. Please read the guidelines first--they have some good suggestions. Thanks! Anthon.Eff 19:21, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've cleaned up the section somewhat based on our guidelines and policy -  Removing links to individual churches, camps and psychics; deadlinks; personal publications; and most of the stuff that doesn't specifically talk about the spiritualist church, along with some of the more geographically restricted associations.  There is a case for removing all of the associations, most of them provide limited encyclopedic information that would not be of interest to a general reader, but if we keep it to only the most prominent I think they could be useful.   I'm still a bit unsure about the Spiritualist e-texts and the psychic investigator links.  These seem a little less than encyclopedic, but I left them in as they seemed there were so few that seemed to provide information that was actually about the subject rather than simply examples of churches.  But I wouldn't object if others thought they shouldn't be there.  Other comments? -- SiobhanHansa 13:37, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a chronic spam problem. A few good editors have come and added real information and then left, without anyone ever taking over this article, defending it from the spammers, organizing the new material, etc. So if you are reading this, and you are knowledgeable about the Spiritualist Church, you are needed here! --Anthon.Eff 18:09, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: External Links

message: Hi.
I set up a page for a List_of_Spiritualist_Organizations. I thought it would be good to run it up you flagpole to see if anyone wished to help.
BTW, are not some of those "See also" a little broad?
Thank you. --Lucyintheskywithdada (talk) 04:17, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you for the list. I have been a steady contributor to that page since you created it, and i have found it very useful as a source for references on various doctrinal and liturgical differences and similarities among the various branches of Spiritualist churches. Catherineyronwode (talk) 18:37, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Spiritualist Churches/Orgs 

message: I just came across the name-origin info for Naramata in  and the founding and naming of the place is connected to the American Spiritualist Church.  Naramata retains its spiritualist tradition, I've heard, but I don't know much more about it; perhaps someone here would care to indulge the topic.Skookum1 (talk) 21:48, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Naramata, British Columbia]]

message: Merge - Spiritualism into Spiritualist Church
I am proposing to merge these because they are the same organization. The product will be better than the current split. Also, the more general title "Spiritualism" should be reserved for the most general concept (people who believe that there is such a thing as spirit). More specific instances should have more specific titles (this particular monotheistic group). Pontiff Greg Bard (talk) 01:28, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This kind of aspersion is uncivil. I am a good faith editor, and I did read it and have a different interpretation of things than you do. To the degree that there exists any material on the 'organization-less' movement with the same heritage, content should be moved to the section in Spiritualism (beliefs) titled Spiritualist Church. -GB
#Spiritualism is already overlong, and is therefore not the kind of article one should think of lumping together with another.
#The division into contemporary Spiritualist Church and historical Spiritualism occurred several years ago. It solved some problems--mainly the problem of everyone wanting to post their own personal beliefs to Spiritualism. Once Spiritualism gained a historical focus, it became possible to write an objective article on it.
#There was a major discussion (actually an edit war) several years ago over whether the more general title "Spiritualism" should be reserved for the most general concept (people who believe that there is such a thing as spirit). As a result, an article appeared called Spiritualism (beliefs), where you have a discussion of "the most general concept."--Anthon.Eff (talk) 12:44, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: *Anthon.Eff is right in drawing the distinction between Spiritualism and Spiritualist Church.  It is a distinction that should be preserved. Nihil novi (talk) 04:53, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: *I agree that the distinction between Spiritualism and Spiritualist Church should be preserved as distinct social and historical movements. That they developed into/from each other can be easily referenced by a link. Similar distinctions are made elsewhere in the Wiki, for example, Unitarian Universalism has this at the beginning: "For the beliefs from which the religion emerged, see Unitarianism and Universalism" Digger Smith (talk) 22:08, 8 November 2009 (UTC)

text: *Oppose: for all the reasons Anthon.Eff so lucidly listed. 64.142.90.33 (talk) 07:41, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

text: *Support: The historical religion of Spiritualism and the current Spiritualist Churches are essentially the same religion, albeit in different forms - they have adapted, just as every religion adapts over time. They should of course be kept separate from the page on spiritualism as a worldwide belief in spirits.(Midnightblueowl (talk) 01:35, 13 December 2009 (UTC)

text: *Strongly Oppose as the unorganized spiritualism movement was enormous and by far and away outnumbered any specific Church by populace as a cultural phenomenon. The unorganized movement affected various "scholars" right up through Freud and Jung. To merge that article into this one implies that the whole thing was organized... which it clearly was not. If anything were to merge it would be this article into Spiritualism and I do not support that either.  - Steve3849 00:25, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: * Its been since September with no consensus and little recent discussion; I removed the merge tags.  - Steve3849 00:30, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Hi, all -- i am involved in upgrading this article to remove redundancy and to provide all in-line refs in accordance with recent Wikipedia standards. I started today but have to break for some meetings. I will return to this work-in-progress. Also, for those following page developments, i am the not-logged-in poster signed as "Ol' 64" above, opposing the merge of this article into the Spiritualism article. More later.... Catherineyronwode (talk) 18:35, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I have created a system of sub-head organization, done a partial rewrite in order to meld various writing styles into one "coice," created a lot more wiki-links (and linked from other articles into this one as well, and brought all refs up to inline ref status. Enjoy! Catherineyronwode (talk) 17:50, 21 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Upgrading Reflist, removing redundancy 

message: I noticed that the link for "Two Worlds", e.g. two worlds magazine was broken, I went to fix it when I ran into it being a protected page. -- 98.58.212.22 (talk) 16:42, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Duplicate edit request. Liu1126 (talk) 16:58, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two Worlds 

message: I did a little research and though unable to find anything  useful in archive.org, there appears to be a complete archive of the magazine  going back to the 1800's located at The Two Worlds (IAPSOP)  I have no idea what to do to make this change but thought I would share the ink here -- 98.58.212.22 (talk) 16:42, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: If you're talking about the red wikilink for Two Worlds, that is because the Wikipedia article hasn't been created yet, but editors believe it would be useful to create it in the future. See Wikipedia:Red link for more information. Liu1126 (talk) 16:58, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archive