Talk:Cynthia Watros

message: It seems kinda meanspirited to put an unflattering mugshot in the article, especially since that's not really what she's famous for.  I'm not really sure of the protocol, though, so I'm not going to remove it. SchnappM 04:28, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To answer questions and comments about the mug shot: (1) The image is relevant because it relates to a portion of the article about her arrest. (2) Removing it would likely be a violation of the WP:NPOV policy. We are not a collection of pretty pictures, and removing it because we don't like it would be POV. (3) It's her own fault for looking like crap in her mug shot. (4) The mug shot is public domain. As a project to create a free encyclopedia, we are strongly encouraged to use free content over "fair use". If I was really evil, I would make the argument that :Image:Cynthia watros.jpg should not be in the article because it is copyrighted as there is an adequate PD image (WP:FAC. (but I won't, because I'm not evil).--Fallout boy 07:11, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Whether it's "NOT Appropriate" is your own opinion. Nick Nolte doesn't have a mug shot in his article because there's only one sentence dedicated to his arrest, whereas nearly a third of this article is about her arrest. Many articles have images of mugshots, like Michael Jackson, Tom DeLay, Bill Gates, Jane Fonda, James Frey, Andre the Giant, Lil' Kim, and many more. "it implies that Cynthia looks like crap in real life": maybe she DOES look like crap in real life. "I feel that the juxtaposition of one "pretty" photo and another "ugly" photo makes the article even LESS NEUTRAL": How does it make it less neutral? If anything, it makes it more neutral. Part of neutrality is not glossing over and avoiding everything negative about a subject. If anything, having only her "pretty" photo makes this page more fanboyish.--Fallout boy 23:57, 14 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Please sign your posts. (1) The argument that having anything remotely newsworthy in an article automatically makes an it into a tabloid newspaper if an awfully big leap.  (2) About her crime not being famous enough: it appears to be the only thing she's known for now. (3) If you think the drunk driving section is overkill, take some initiative and add material that isn't about her arrest to balance the article, instead of deleting content you dislike.--Fallout boy 09:00, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Since everyone seems to not want the mugshot, I'll compromise by adding it the the commons and adding a commons link.--Fallout boy 21:31, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

text: The article has been edited since Fagstein's comment, which was almost a year ago. During those edits, the photo was removed. -- Mikeblas 22:19, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The article isn't long enough (and her arrest not notable enough) to warrant a photo. We have her publicity shot up now, which seems appropriate. Fagstein 20:09, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article has been edited since Fagstein's comment, which was almost a year ago. During those edits, the photo was removed. -- Mikeblas 22:19, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Third opinion

message: Watros overcame a serious disease as a teenager; she was diagnosed with Idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura, an autoimmune disease of the blood. It required several years of chemotherapy and a splenectomy. In an interview in the Season 3 DVD of Titus, she stated that she had lost her hair and gained over 100 pounds as a result of this disease.
There are some problems with the above:
*ITP is not an "autoimmune disease of the blood."  It is an autoimmune disease—period.  The exact mechanism by which ITP affects the patient is not fully understood, but is thought to be the result of the immune system mistaking platelets for pathogens, causing normal processes (e.g., phagocytosis in the spleen) to destroy them.
*Chemotherapy (initially, therapy with corticosteroids) and splenectomy are standard for ITP and have been so for over 50 years.  Splenectomy as a remedy for ITP was first documented in 1916 and was the sole remedy until the early 1950s.  There's nothing at all remarkable about her case.
*Watros overcame a serious disease...  She didn't "overcome" anything.  Either her case was acute (common in teenage girls) and subsided on its own or is chronic (more likely) and will require ongoing monitoring and support therapy.
*...she stated that she had lost her hair and gained over 100 pounds as a result of this disease.  Actually, ITP has no such effect on a patient.  In fact, many ITP patients present with few obvious symptoms until a major platelet count crash occurs.  It is possible that she did experience some side-effects from chemo (most patients do), especially if aggressive treatments were administered.  However, the extreme weight gain she supposedly experienced is unlikely due to chemo.  Chemo of the sort that can favorably affect ITP generally results in loss of body mass, not an increase).
Bigdumbdinosaur (talk) 22:58, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ITP 

message: As a teenager, Watros was diagnosed with idiopathic thrombocytopenic purpura (ITP), an autoimmune disease that can cause spontaneous bleeding.  She was subjected to chemotherapy and a splenectomy in an effort to mitigate the problem.  In an interview in the Season 3 DVD of Titus, she stated that she had lost her hair and gained over 100 pounds as a result of this disease. 
Watros has had a complicated history with Guiding Light co-star Kim Zimmer. Zimmer and Watros met and became friends when they co-starred in an off-Broadway show, Four Dogs and a Bone by John Patrick Shanley. Although there is no long-standing rivalry, working in close quarters apparently caused a serious rift between them when they both appeared on Guiding Light. In particular, a physical altercation between the two actors was captured on tape during filming of a Guiding Light episode.
Watros is married to Curtis Gilliland and has twin daughters, Emma Rose Marie and Sadie Anna Marie (born July 14, 2001).
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Nightscream (talk) 04:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal life