Talk:Pedro Rosselló

message: :Completed merge from the Dr. Pedro Rosselló article. Additional text not included  from the orginal is availalbe at Talk:Dr. Pedro Rosselló -  Bah 01:59, 5 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: It has been deleted by someone the information about the 2008 NPP primary. I would like wikipedia to check because in order for some people keep important information off the record they have been deleting it.  
--72.50.122.111 (talk) 04:42, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Primary

message: Does somebody have any info on where he got his medical degree?
           University of Notre Dame in 1966 he got a Bachelor's Dregree in Science "magna cum laude".
           In 1970 he got the title of doctor(also "magna cum laude") in Yale. After that he specialized
           as a general surgeon and pedriatic surgery in Harvard University. He finished school in 1981
           with a master's in public health in the school of medical sciences at the University of Puerto Rico.
           He also taught medicine at Havard.
           I got this info from http://www.biografiasyvidas.com/biografia/r/rosello_pedro.htm
           It's in Spanish, I just translated it in my own words for you. If you want to, put it in better words and add
           it to the biography here. As long as we are not violating any copyrighting, we're just paraphrasing.
           Jnxt231 (talk) 22:08, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: More info on Education

message: Someone should do a bit of more research, because basically his senate position is illegal, as he have not yet accomplished the 2 years that law requires you to apply for a government position (governors, senate, etc).
* That claim was raised by a former senator and the case moved up to the Supreme Court of Puerto Rico, yet the courts ruled that Rosselló could fill the vacant senate seat. His position is recoginized by the Puerto Rico State Elections Commission and by the Courts of the island. user: Coburnpharr04
The article mentions that Senate President Kenneth McClintock and other senators who support him were expelled from the party.  That is not entirely correct.  Although the Rosselló-controlled "Directorio" of the New Progressive Party did recommend in February 2006 the expulsion of McClintock and Senate Vice President Orlando Parga, the fact is that the party's General Assembly, when it subsequently met did not vote on that recommendation, contrary to Senator De Castro's proposed expulsion, which was ratified by the General Assembly in August, 2005.   As things stand, De Castro is out of the party, and McClintock and four others are not allowed to file for the 2008 party primary, sanctions of dubious constitutionality that will most certainly be challenged successfully in court (McClintock stated as much in his interview by Luis Francisco Ojeda on WAPA-TV's noontime show yesterday, December 25).
:Very good points that should definitely be reflected in the text of the article! Make sure you find a source for ref. Flybd5 17:03, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: More information on his Political Career

message: The figures presented in the article are incorrect.
The Teelphone Compay was sold for 2 billion dollars, not 1.9 million dollars.
The annual profit at the time of the sale was 100 million, not 2 billion as the article states.
**If you bring a source we can correct it.<<Coburn_Pharr>> 01:55, 26 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Telephone Company sale 

message: Removed the comment about mayors and legislators being convicted. I know all about the scandals, but since mayors and legislators are elected independent from the governor, its unfair to make reference to them here since it implies the governor was responsible for their actions, much like agency heads, which he is not.
*I agree about the part of the mayors and legislators, but the agency heads are very much his responsabilty. The Governor is the CEO of the government, and the head of agencies respond directly to him, therefore their actions fall directily under the resposability of the governor. That is the reason why most of those positions are know "positions of trust." (puestos de confianza in spanish)<<Coburn_Pharr>> 23:01, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Corruption

message: I added a missing references template. Due to the sensitivity of the issue, it should include verifiable references. Mtmelendez 19:39, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Corruption controversies

message: Please do not edit the style of this article by doing things like placing the names of people in "quotes." That is inappropriate and is an insult to people of Hispanic origin.Flybd5 00:41, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To begin with, why would you place a name in quotes in the first place? And furthermore, why do you bother replying to this six days later, after mediation has begun? There is no need to deride his comments, remember WP:COOL! Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 23:09, 24 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't care if you're Hispanic or don't feel insulted. It's wrong to do that purely for ethnic background reasons, and it is insulting to that ethnic community. Flybd5 05:39, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

text: How is this relevant to the discussion? WP:COOL. The question is: why would you place the names of people in quotes in the first place? Jobjörn (Talk ° contribs) 05:34, 25 December 2006 (UTC)

text: "Italicized the names to bring them out"?? <laugh!> Oh, I can't wait to hear what your next story will be. Reminds me of my son making up all sorts of stories when caught redhanded, and digging a deeper and deeper hole. Flybd5 06:03, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Editorial Style

message: Stop reverting grammar and typo corrections and removing citations. This is vandalism. YOU DO NOT OWN THIS ARTICLE! You have been reported for vandalism. If you read the changes done to this article you will see that the article has been corrected. Removing citations and productive changes to an article is considered vandalism. I will revert changes. Please read Wikipedia's boards on article ownership.--XLR8TION 17:15, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: First book -- Dataflex Developer's Guide, , published 1988. Any other questions? What have you published, sonny? The Ultimate Guide to Iris Chacon? :D Flybd5 16:56, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Apparent Vanadalism by Flybd5

message: *I have to question the neutrality of this article since many of the things it claims are what the opposing party to the PNP has said. Sure some of the things were decided by judges in courts but it doesn't matter since they were under control of the PPD and the law interpretation went according to them. I am talking especially about the problem with Rosselló being a resident of Virginia and not Puerto Rico, the supposed law that made "pivazo" votes legal which is backed here entirely by what the PPD said, and the sentence that says Rosselló was charged December 15th, when he clearly was not charged at all, and since December 28th has been cleared.
::(I broke this off into it's own section to make responding easyer...)  If you can find sources, we would apreciate it... but we are limited by what is printed in newspapers and court documents. (yes, the winner gets tto write the history book) ---J.S  (T/C) 19:47, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Rosselló himself claimed to be a resident of Virginia in tax returns he filed for income in Puerto Rico. He specifically chose to report that he was not a resident of Puerto Rico. At the time he was living in Virginia, had applied for a driver's license there and had also registered to vote in Virginia, which requires a signed sworn statement that the applicant is a resident of that state, on penalty of law. The issue with the criminal charges against him has not been cleared, it has been appealed according to rule 6 of the PR Criminal Code. The request to find probable cause will be heard again on January 24 with a different judge. Everything that has been posted is 100% factual and backed up with cites. This is not a matter of the winner writing the history book. This is a matter of history documenting the winners. Flybd5 20:06, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Your logic is incorrect. The act of asking a judge to find probable cause for arrest specifically requires the filing of charges and evidence to support them. There has been no "finally" in this case -- the decision of the first judge has been appealed already (not next month) and the appeal has been granted. A second hearing has been granted and will be seen by a new judge, so it is far from over and the charges remain until the appeal is resolved. That will most likely happen Jan 24, at which time Rosselló will either be arrested on criminal charges, or the charges will be dismissed. If they are dismissed, there is no further appeal possible.Flybd5 23:48, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: I have unprotected this article. 
If any further bad-faith reverting of legitimate edits is done, I will block.  That means if you don't feel like going though and fixing one or two edits amongst a bunch of good ones, don't revert the entire batch.  ---J.S  (T/C) 02:30, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have just done exactly that. As long as Luis controls his temper, there should be no issues. Happy Holidays! :) Flybd5 16:50, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: J.Smith, user XLR8TION is doing the same thing all over again. Now he's made a reversal, but noted it as if it were a small change. Someone needs to put a stop to this idiocy on his part. Flybd5 04:07, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unprotected 

message: Information relating to his wife (and any roles she had in the private sector and as First Lady) should be added. In addition, any info on his children and their names should be included. The article seems incomplete without this info.--XLR8TION 19:53, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Documenting that he has a family is one thing, and I agree as long as the section is limited to that, but any details on the roles Maga Rosselló played as a public figure should go in a separate article in order to respect the fact that she is a separate person, and not just the spouse of a politician. There is much precedent to support a separate article -- note that every US First Lady has her own article, rather than just a mention under her husband's page. See Laura Bush, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Betty Ford, Nancy Reagan, etc. The same should apply to their children, though it is my impression that they shun the public limelight. Flybd5 20:23, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Maga wasn't exactly the model of the hyperactive first lady, in that we agree, but she did participate and lead a number of programs during her husband's term of office. Certainly a page for her qualifies under the notability guidelines for Wikipedia, which specifically state that the decision of whether an article presents a notable issue is not a question of subjective analysis. Flybd5 23:51, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: An article on Maga Rosselló wouldn't be a bad idea... and it gives us a better way to organize the information... we would just need to be sure her article would survive an AFD. (Ie, establish notability outside of her connection to her husband) ---J.S  (T/C) 00:18, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The easiest way to accomplish that is for someone to contact the person who acted as her personal secretary when she was First Lady, and see if that person can provide enough information about her activities during her husband's term of office. I don't have the time to do that, however. Flybd5 18:38, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New personal Section

message: In order to "aspire" to be Senate president, the current incumbent would have to be "removed".  The comment about the six "auténtico" senators making a coalition with PDP senators is impermissible POV.  On occasions, some of Rosselló's Senate faction have coalesced with the PDP minority to win votes.  For example, had three of his supporters not voted to confirm the PDP's Attorney General, the nomination would have failed by one vote.  Another example is last June 25 when they joined to try to violate the NPP platform's opposition to discharging important bills while attempting to prematurely pass the House bill creating the Northeast Ecological Corridor which was later approved on Aug. 30 with a report and amendments.  Because Rosselló is an active politician currently campaigning for office, we should all strive to keep this article extremely fact-based. Pr4ever 03:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Senate and NPP rift 

message: This section needs to be updated with the final ruling of the Court. I will try to look for newspaper sources, but if someone has access to ADENDI (Archivo Electrónico de El Nuevo Dia) will get this information sooner.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by MissCurie (talk • contribs) 07:35, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charges related to Pension 

message: The following sentences are clearly biased and use non-neutral language:
"The Health Department could not find any records of his "Summer Jobs", stating how could he be at two places at the same time, as he were some type of "god" and denied him his false claim. Roselló alleged that the Government burned these "Summer Jobs" records and continued to push his claim. The Secretary of Justice at that time, Roberto Sanchez Ramos, indicted him for perjury and presenting a false claim and the case was brought up to three Roselló appointed Judges, and not all three had the guts to take him to court and dropped the charges."
Did the Health Department claim he was some type of god? That sounds unlikely. Needs a source. Also, the statement that none of the 3 judges had "the guts" to take him to court is clearly the opinion of the author.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.97.110.54 (talk) 16:21, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retirement, return and election results (1999-2004) 

message: Reverting THIS edit by User:Pol098. There is consensus that the long-standing wording with the description "Puerto Rican" should be kept. It is supported by at least five editors: THIS EDITOR, THIS EDTOR THIS EDITOR, THIS EDITOR, and THIS EDITOR. The disagreeing anonymous editor Was Blocked (UPDATED) for edit warring and "for pushing his own POV agenda". Mercy11 (talk) 19:35, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no particular position on this issue. As there was dissension and edit warring between "American" and "Puerto Rican" I thought that the following wording might be a compromise that all could agree on:Pedro Juan Rosselló González, (; born April 5, 1944 in San Juan, the capital of Puerto Rico, an unincorporated territory of the United States), is a physician and politician who served...".If there is further conflict this appears to me to be both accurate and NPOV, and others may wish to use it as a basis; but I am not going to intervene further. Pol098 (talk) 19:44, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit by [[User:Pol098]]

message: Puerto Rico is a U.S. Commowealth since 1952 and a U.S. Territory since 1898. Puerto Rico is not a country (Federal Republic), it does not has a President nor it is a country member of the United Nations. There is a user called Mercy11 (Mercy11) who keeps taking the "U.S." Suffix from the Governors birthplace. It is indispensable that the people get the correct information and know why they are Governors and not "Presidents". The U.S. Commonwealth of Puerto Rico only has a Governor and a Statewide Government. Since 1917 Every person born in Puerto Rico is a Natural U.S. Citizen, which is why it is indispensable that the "U.S." Suffix appear at the birthplace of the Governors of the Commonwealth of Puerto Rico.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiSoldier86 (talk • contribs) 02:26, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Puerto Rico Political System and the "U.S." Suffix. 

message: This subject is under discussion at . Please go THERE if you wish to join the discussion. Mercy11 (talk) 15:11, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits by WikiSoldier86 seeking to specify "U.S." after place of birth