Talk:Lists of fictional presidents of the United States

message: What should be our cutoff for the listing of Unnamed Presidents? There are plenty of productions where The President appears for only a moment as a faceless entity (usually photographed from the back or from a distance) or as simply a voice on a radio or telephone. However, the effect that these characters have is marginal, and really not worth mentioning. That's not to say a faceless president isn't worth listing, it really depends on his role in the plot, such as in Wag the Dog where we never see his face, but his importance and role in the story is paramount.
However, there are productions where The President is central to the plot, but exists less as a character and more as a plot device. Such as the film In the Line of Fire where we do see The President, but never hear him speak or see him do anything beyond public appearances. Here, he's more of a walking prop then anything. In such a case, I don't think it would be worth mentioning. This also extends to works where The President is never seen or heard, but his actions still have an effect on the story (ie: "The President has ordered..." and "I spoke with The President, and...").
And naturally, works where The President is briefly shown and appears as a nondescript white male of middle age or older isn't really worth mentioning either. --Paul Soth 06:01, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unnamed Presidents 

message: I note that several real people have crept into the top part of the list (fictional people), - surely J Edgar Hoover and a couple of the Kennedys should be in the "Real people" section. And what of Richard Starkey? Could it be Ringo...?  Grutness|hello?  10:07, 13 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real vs Unreal 

message: Should Peter Griffin be listed?  He wasn't the President of the United States, but of the fictional nation Petoria. Sieckanddestroy 00:40, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Petoria is not the United States, so no. Try list of other fictional politicans#Non-American Presidents. -Silence 22:25, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  President Peter Griffin 

message: Shouldn't George Bush the lesser be on this list?  His presidency is a fiction. Pedant 15:35, 27 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't George Bush ? 

message: This is currently a useless list of 3 presidents. It hasn't been edited since the day it was created (six months ago) and it looks like theres some overlap as well. It would benifit from being merged into this far better maintained list. josh (talk) 00:50, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of Fictional Acting U.S. Presidents]] 

message: I've changed the format of the Real People section a bit.  Multiple sources are now in a bulleted list under the appropriate person (e.g. Hillary Clinton, Arnold Schwarzenegger).  I've also removed the "President" in front of some of the entries, in cases where it seemed redundant with the sentence.  (e.g. "President Paris Hilton has frequently been portrayed as president in....").  An acceptable standard? --ScottAlanHill 22:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formatting of "Real People" section 

message: As this page is getting rather long, I was considering splitting the "Real People" section onto its own entry.  I've done a mock-up at List of alternate history United States Presidents, but I wanted to solicit opinion before deleting anything from this page. --ScottAlanHill 18:20, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving "Real People" to its own page 

message: Was he President of the USA? I thought he was just the president of the (admittedly very important) school. Aspirin ought to be included with every copy of Killer7. 67.10.175.242 16:29, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harman Smith? 

message: I added Hal Gardner as acting president, since he would have succeeded Charles Logan after the fifth-season finale of 24. Possibly disputable, to some lights. RahadyanS 14:06, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hal Gardner 

message: As far as I can tell, the books (or films, or whatever other media works they are) The Day America Invaded the World and The Dave Hepler Saga don't actually exist, so "Charles Herbert Harrington" and "Dave Hepler" should be removed from the page.  If I'm wrong, please let me know; otherwise I plan to delete them at the end of this month (July 2007). Caliban 18:12, 12 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Fiction Than Fiction 

message: Arthur Morose is mentioned as the President in "By Dawn's Early Light". However, the accuracy is questionable.
First, he is never named in the film or its credits.
Second, if the film was, as claimed, set in 1991, he can hardly have been elected in 1996.
Third, the destruction of Washington was caused by the Russian "retaliation" - admittedly for the terrorist attack on Donetsk.
The Secretary of the Interior (does this actually equate to Secretary of State?) was in Baton Rouge, Louisiana, not France.
I suggest that the accuracy of this is checked, and that "Arthur Morose" is moved to "unnamed" at the same time.EmleyMoor (talk) 09:53, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arthur Morose 

message: Dick Cheney has been acting President of the United States on two seperate occasions. I move that he be removed from the list. Discussion? 129.110.194.224 17:54, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dick Cheney 

message: I agree that the "Dave Hepler" entry appears to be a hoax, rather than a reference to an actual fictional president.  I also suspect that "Eric Norcross" is similar, as I can't find any reference to the character, and there is no source given.--David A Spitzley 21:25, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup suggestions 

message: I propose this be addressed by dividing the article by media (List of fictional United States Presidents in films, List of fictional United States Presidents in books, etc.) with a special list for books made into movies (or, I suppose, movies made into books). Thoughts? bd2412 T 05:20, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Honestly, I think this is pure listcruft and hardly interesting in any real way to anybody; but the article has been around for a while, so I guess I'm in the minority there. However, since it is already so long, perhaps it could be better (and easier) split into alphabetic sections "A-E", "F-J", etc., or something like that? Lilac Soul (talk • contribs • &site=  count) 14:27, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page is too long. 

message: I concur with BD2412 on the divisions. This would make it easier to search by, of slightly less logical. For example: List of fictional POTUS this list is divided by media 'film, TV, literature etc etc. Also, would it be worth numbering them? It might be better to just give the exact number on the main page- this list currently contains X number of characters.... HJMitchell  You rang?  20:01, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Numbering

message: The section pertaining to presidents of the Confederate states seems a bit minimalist. I think a good figure to include would be Bioshock Infinite's Zachary Comstock, the president of 'Columbia', a floating version of the Confederacy. 2602:302:D5C:A4C0:9CCC:BC0A:8B42:3913 (talk) 19:25, 1 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zachary Hale Comstock (Additions to Presidents of the Confederacy) 

message: Could an article be made about fictional Presidents of the Confederate States? In reality, the Confederacy only had one president: Jefferson Davis. However, in alternate history timelines and novels, in which the Confederacy gains its independence and has more than one president. For example, in the Southern Victory Series by Harry Turtledove, the Confederate States has 14 presidents before the nation creases to exist after at the end of the Second Great War in 1944. The list as is follows:
#1 Jefferson Davis (1861-1868) 
#2 President Lee, either Robert E. Lee or Fitzhugh Lee (1868-1874)
#3 Unknown (1874-1880)
#4 James Longstreet (1880-1886)
#5-8 Unknown (1886-1910)
#9 Woodrow Wilson (1910-1916)
#10 Gabriel Semmes (1916-1922)
#11 Wade Hampton V (1922)
#12 Burton Mitchel (1922-1934)
#13 Jake Featherston (1934-1944)
#14 Donald Partridge (1944)
The article should be separated in several parts. One area for fictional characters like Jake Featherston A-Z, another for unknown or unnamed presidents, and the last part for real life people such as Jefferson Davis and Woodrow Wilson. It would be a good idea for this article to exist. --75.68.122.13 (talk) 15:28, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit Request 2/28/15

message: I have moved the "Fictional Presidents of the Confederate States of America" section from this page to President of the Confederate States of America (and left behind a "see also" link to the information). I did this because the information—fictional CSA presidents—falls outside the parameters for inclusion established by the article's title. Drdpw (talk) 19:30, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fictional presidents of the CSA 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:List of presidents of the United States by age which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 23:00, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: For those who are not aware, Wikipedia's editing policies have tightened over time. I am asking here for a general editorial consensus on whether or not fictional details should have to be cited, of which these (fictional president) lists have shown great inconsistence. If not, these articles may be eligible for deletion under notability. Nobody expects the UnexpectedSmoreInquisition (talk)! 14:50, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP:CHALLENGE