Talk:Air France Flight 296Q

message: I think the section needs to be concluded.
# Was his case taken up by the Supreme Court?
# What was the outcome?
# Did Captain Asseline serve a prison sentence?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pstaveley (talk • contribs) 12:59, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prosecutions 

message: what happened? Did the plane hit the ground after the trees? How did the 3 passengers die? What happened to the Captain's appeal?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.151.106.251 (talk) 16:38, 16 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: 22 years later?  Really??? Captain Quirk (talk) 20:48, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

text: You can view the history of any article (and often find useful but deleted information there).  This article's history is here.  From a quick glance, the article was never any longer than it is now.  (I didn't page through individual versions to see if it ever had any more information about the pilot.) -- 124.157.218.132 (talk) 11:28, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: unclear

message: The TLC link in the article leads to a disambigutation page where none of the TLC subjects seems to be of any relevance! Q43 (talk) 04:00, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone fixed this. --Marc Kupper|talk 20:52, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  TLC 

message: In the accident summary in the field type we have in this current version: Pilot Error (disputed). I believe the fair treatment in this case according to NPOV would be mark as Pilot Error / System Failure (disputed) Ppaulojr (talk) 01:20, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accident Summary 

message: I recall seeing this clip on the news when it first happened all those years ago, and  on seeing the giant ball of flame and smoke, agreeing with the commentators: how could anyone survive this? The fact that "almost" everyone did survive, (and not taking anything away from the three who died), and HOW they survived (if that is known) is surely worth including in this article if someone has some supported data for it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Old wombat (talk • contribs) 09:52, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Only" three dead. 

message: http: // z15 . invisionfree . com/Loose_Change_Forum/ar/t11121.htm
This seems to be on the web in only one place, but it is an interesting account of the initial data checks. The website is blacklisted by wikipedia, apparently, so do not click on it. Fotoguzzi (talk) 19:10, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another take on the data recorders 

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message: Flight number & radio callsign was Air Charter ACF 296 Q, as can be read in the official report and in the transcription of radio exchanges, though the A320 and pilots were from Air France. Anyway, the media coverage at least in France never used the flight number (at least in pre-Wikipedia era) but rather « crash d'Habsheim »--Df (talk) 21:26, 16 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally I'd rather see a title without the flight number such as "Habsheim Airbus crash" or something like that. If you really want to use a flight number it should be "Air Charter Flight 296 Q". Unfortunately,  the correct flight number has been reverted by  without any reason. --Df (talk) 21:09, 8 August 2021 (UTC)

text: Usually, whatever the operator, the flight number remains the same (with the name of the company for which the flight is operated, here it is Air Charter). I guess "Air France Flight 296[Q]" never existed except in Wikipedia and various sites relying on Wikipedia for source... But please do rename as you wish ;-) --Df (talk) 09:38, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks, but as per the final report it does state that the flight number was 296Q. But I do understand that other sites take Wikipedia as a source and Wikipedia takes them as a source. The primary sources such as ASN or planecrashinfo still do state that it was 296Q. That's because they rely on the final report. Only if there isn't they take sources. However, should I request a move since I've always been punched in the face if I do a 'bold' move like people have said in my talk page all the time, so they are sniffing for clues every now and then and will block me from moving a page unless I request a move. Username006 (talk) 15:59, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: To avoid be punched in the face when trying to move air crashes pages you should have a look to the project aviation naming conventions. Especially "Exceptions [to the standard flight number name]: if the event has acquired a popular name, that name should be used". I don't know whether this crash has got a popular name in english sources (in France it is mostly known as "Habsheim Crash"), thus I will not request a move myself. I requested more advices from the project aviation. IMHO, if there is no such popular name, as said above, the correct name would be Air Charter Flight 296Q.  -Df (talk) 00:37, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  But as far as I know, there is nothing saying that the flight number is also supposed to be in common name format. But I must say that it was operated by Air France on behalf of Air Charter. This is why the operator was Air France with Air Charter identifications.  Similarly, Continental Express operated under Britt Airways and that's the main reason why Continental Express Flight 2574 is called so. And also, Arrow Air Flight 1285 should be Arrow Air Flight 1285R for the same reason. I'm requesting a move to see what consensus says. It's totally okay to be bold to ask. Username006 (talk) 04:19, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flight number & radio callsign 

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The result of the move request was: Moved. Zero opposition to these moves.  — Coffee // have a ☕️ // beans //  05:55, 26 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Support - Refs for both of these refer to them with the alpha at the end, it is the correct flight number in both cases. Retswerb (talk) 08:33, 24 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 14 January 2022 

message: The pilots fault? 116.14.16.200 (talk) 11:19, 4 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why did the plane crash