Talk:Military brat (U.S. subculture)/Archive 4

message: Well, somebody beat me to the category of military brat, but I went through last night and updated all of the brats on the List of famous military brats to have the category on their page.  Well, the category has already been nominated for deletion.  The reasoning is because it is a "non-neutral" term and parental occupation is irrelevant.  Thus, I'm letting people who have contributed to the Military brat article know so that they can support the category. Here is the link to the discussion  Balloonman 20:13, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Category:Military brat

message: I deleted (or simply a "brat"), since brat has its own meaning in English going far back.  As the Oxford English dictionary says " ‘A child, so called in contempt’  In 16th and 17th c. sometimes used without contempt, though nearly always implying insignificance; the phrase beggar's brat has been common from the first." The word was probably derived from the word brat used for the coarse, makeshift tunic that was a begger child's only clothing. --Bejnar 22:30, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: simply a "brat"

message: Some images are poorly sourced, and should have the exact link from which they were taken, especially on the various .mil sites, like this:
Image:Military Brat in Pilot's outfit.jpg - is that a child of a member of the armed forces? All I see is a kid in pilot's gear.
Also, it's not clear why Tiger Woods's photo is included, unless mention is made that he is a "military brat" by the defninition given in this article. Alcarillo 00:30, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm removing Tiger's picture as it doesn't fit the generally accepted definition.  I've seen sources citing him as a brat, for example , but his father may have retired before he was born. As for the rest, I'll try to look them up.Balloonman 22:19, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice addition of Schwartzkopf with caption. Alcarillo 00:15, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Updated all pictures.Balloonman 23:13, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Is it a patch on the uniform or something? I can't quite make out the details of the various patches -- one on each breast and a shoulder patch. If so, it would be cool to include an image of the patch, if possible, or some other AFB insignia. The only thing I could find was this . Alcarillo 15:18, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a whole line of jewelry and clothing available for brats.... when I first started working on this article, it was almost an advertisement for one company selling said articles... look at a version from September/October and it'll give ya a link ;-)Balloonman 16:27, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image sources? 

message: I am about to move, so will be going on a wikibreak.  But am hoping to nominate this article for FA when I come back.  Any comments/reviews would be greatly appreciated.Balloonman 08:21, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAC 

message: An interesting article which describes (in some ways) my entire childhood (1957-1970). Luckily for me, that phase ended at age 13. I guess things have also changed in the military since I got out in 1978. In the pre-and immediately post-Vietnam Army, dependents (no one called them brats, whether from the inside or the outside) were best seen and then forgotten. Although at the time life seemed good (at least to a kid), it was only later that I realized just how poorly the military took care of its own (at least the enlisted personnel). Housing was atrocious, schools overcrowded, pay was low, and relations with the outside community were nil. The longest we ever stayed in one spot was four years. But when you are a kid, none of this really sinks in or matters. 
I also did not realize just how incredibly lucky I was in having the parents that I did (a southerner who never got past his GED and the daughter of a farmer). By age 16 I had long hair, played in a rock band, and had anti-war posters hanging on my wall (including a long-lost poster of Mao that I still miss) and not a single peep out of my parents. They encouraged my differences (but then again my dad was out of the service and working for the Justice Department by then) and I reciprocated by staying out of trouble. Although times have changed, a lot of the article rings true. Keep up the good work. RM Gillespie 09:17, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dependents