Talk:Art in ancient Greece

message: Whether or not it was copyright, it was a lousy article anyway. I am happy to write a new one, alone or in collaboration with others who are interested in this field. Adam 03:09, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I think this clarification of 'known world' is useful to have - which user Brian0918 did here  but was reverted, which I have restored Cfitzart 00:31, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Known world 

message: Anyone care to help me add some new material about artists such as vryzakis et al? --GreekWarrior 22:31, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have made Greek art a disambig so that people looking for modern greek art dont get directed here Cfitzart 11:13, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Modern Greek Art 

message: He tossed out some remarkable 3D "compatible" images that really illustrate "ancient art" in a very
effective way. He brags about all the edits he makes. This seems to be a person driven by
"quantity" rather than "quality". He calls these images "horrible" without seeing them in 3D, which
millions of student age people, are equipped to view. These are the "horrible 3D images".
If you have even cheap paper glasses open these images and see a very impressive visual.69.109.42.36 04:12, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adam Carr is literally an "iconoclast" 

message: Hello, I don't know the first thing about Greek art, but I am collecting images for Frieze group and got this on a visit to the Museum of Fine Arts, Boston. Thought someone here might like it.  Dmharvey 02:23, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  another tourist-grade photo 

message: I'm rather surprised at the elision of the Archaic period with the Geometric. If we're not going to make that distinction should we given some space to a justification of why every art reference book and historian  of the period is wrong?Twospoonfuls 14:34, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry if that came across as pissy. The Geometric period is mostly to do with vase painting but there is decorative metal work from the period and, possible votive,  terrcotta figurines. As for Geometric being a movement within Archaic I think it would be an ambitious thesis to suggest there's a stylistic continuity between the Dipylon master the Berlin painter - but I'd gladly hear it out if you are positing one. Therefore I don't want to start an edit war if we can't agree on such basic terms of reference.Twospoonfuls 15:18, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Taxonomy

message: I have created a Greek Art page, much to Adam Carr's disgust, which includes stubs of Ancient/Byzantine/Modern Greek Art. 
Help would be greatly appreciated. HEIL! --GreekWarrior 17:18, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED.  I went ahead and closed this early, because it's uncontroversial and consistent with the other articles about ancient Greece. -GTBacchus(talk) 23:51, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek Art 

message: they need more info on ALLLL of this stuff so kids with homework can get it done!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.217.27.134 (talk) 00:28, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ancient greek art 

message: I'd like to suggest that there be a seperate main article for Sculpture of ancient Greece. The pages Classical sculpture and this one are useful introductions but don't, I believe, go into sufficent detail. I'd appreciate everyone's comments. Twospoonfuls 13:09, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion of new child page

message: There's no reference to fresco or panel painting whatsoever? Any objection if we change that? athinaios 17:24, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That absolutely has to be in this article. --Akhilleus (talk) 17:28, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Even though very little ancient Greek wall painting has survived, there's still some, and there's also a body of ancient testimonia about Greek painting--this is enough to inspire a decent body of modern scholarship, so there's definitely stuff to cite. --Akhilleus (talk) 20:42, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It might be assumed to be so, but a search on EBSCOHOST reveals 4 scholarly article which discuss painting in ancient greece. One is exclusively vase-painting, one is a book review, and then there's "New Pedagogy on Ancient Pederasty. By: Verstraete, Beert. Gay & Lesbian Review Worldwide, ", and 
"Psychological Implications of the History of Realistic Depiction: Ancient Greece, Renaissance Italy and CGI. By: Kozbelt, Aaron. Leonardo," which is more about CGI than anything else.  If you have access to a 'decent body'; feel free to either ad some work or provide some refs we can look up, and if you have some images of said survivals, that would help too.Bridesmill 20:54, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Can you give me a ref? JSTOR login page without a doc title/cite doesn't do me much good as all I have access from at home is EBSCO. Is there any reason if you have all these refs that you can't do some of the work?Bridesmill 23:04, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: K.W. Arafat, Classical Review 47 (1997) 391-392--this is a review of S.B. Matheson, Polygnotos and Vase Painting in Classical Athens (Madison, 1996). I don't "have all these refs", I find the citations through index searches. If I get some time, I'll be happy to contribute to this article, but I have a long list of other articles I want to work on first (and I doubt I'll get to them anytime soon, I average about 8 edits per day). --Akhilleus (talk) 04:55, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks; but note that's 'vase painting' again...like you I'll stick this topic on my todo list, but it may take a while.Bridesmill 13:14, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Polygnotos was a wall painter, actually; his (possible) influence on vase painting, etc. is something that's gotten a lot of attention, but Twospoonfuls is right about what an odd enterprise it is... --Akhilleus (talk) 16:38, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

text: There's also the painted terracotta metopes from the Temple of Apollo at Thermon, from the 7th century. See here: . --Akhilleus (talk) 17:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Huh? These metopes are from the 7th century, not Mycenaean. Or were you talking about something else? --Akhilleus (talk) 01:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My mistake. Sorry. I did not mean to refer to Thermon by that comment. athinaios 01:27, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Painting 

message: I'm confused. When I click on the discussion link from the Greek art article, I end up here, on the Art in ancient Greece talkpage. Is that correct? athinaios 18:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. Therev was a redirect, presumably from the time before the two topics were separated. I Removed it. athinaios 18:14, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek art talkpage 

message: I've been so bold as to add a new section on painting. I wasn't sure where to put it, so I placed it at the bottom, under the coin section. I hope that's ok? athinaios 01:33, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New painting section 

message: Hi, I changed the list of Ancient Greek painters expandable template to a different template based on this one. This is for two reasons: one, the former template's show button overlapped with the image caption, making it impossible to tell whether the list was just plaintext or what; secondly, the new template could be used as a navigational template and be placed in each article on the individual painters. Please don't revert my changes because I'm an anonymous user. Thank you, 74.140.162.131 (talk) 18:33, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of known ancient greek painters