Talk:Mount Sinai

message: All of the pics on this page are "from Mount Sinai" - how about a picture OF Mount Sinai, eh?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.230.177.44 (talk) 15:59, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sixteen months later and there is still no picture of the mountain itself! Mangoe (talk) 14:20, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Can we have a picture of it?

message: It's as clear as day Mt. Sinai's in Saudi Arabia and a tremendous amount of new evidence supports it as such as has been disclosed from Jim and Penny Caldwell, the late Ron Wyatt and others over the decades. Wikipedia's way behind the curve in changes in evidence to that effect proving it's far too Warren Commissionish in its overtly stubborn attitude to changes in recent archeological evidence.  That Wikipedia completely dismisses new information is ludicrous proving beyond a reasonable doubt it is not a trusted source of information. I take what I read on this Internet Encyclopedia with a grain of salt. The rule hasn't changed that you get what you pay for. Corporate bribes must continue to support this site to their own advantages.--67.127.55.7 (talk) 00:04, 19 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: 100% right.  Wikipedia is dominated by people who only look a scholarly evidence.  And those scholars will claim that these people that actually visited the site and followed the biblical account to find it in Arabia are wrong.  But they will never admit that the Saudi government has a fence and guards around Jabal al Lawz.  And they will never admit that the top is burned and the rocks melted a smoothed by fire or that the locals call it the mountain of God. 2605:A601:AFFC:C200:8096:DD81:AFCE:49A9 (talk) 16:42, 27 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Location

message: Are there any objections to moving this to Mount Sinai? Almost all the links there refer to this page. --Jiang 16:21, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Done yesterday. --Jiang 23:46, 5 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 

message: "Judaism further teaches that the exact location of the original Mount Sinai was deliberately kept secret, so that no one would be tempted to erect a shrine at the tomb of Moses (itself an unknown location near in the territory of Moab.)"
what the connection between tomb of Moses and mt Sinai?
and by the way, by searching the internet, jebel Musa is not favored much as Mt Sinai...
but the article clears that point more or less/
--Urij 12:21, 15 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  mt nebo 

message: Mount Sinai is actually at these coordinates: Besides the biblical image where moses gets the laws of god from the burning bush is mount horeb.  Basically, he obtains the laws and shows them to the human race at mount horeb.  However, he ascended into mount sinai to obtain those laws.   28°35'44.48"N  35°20'3.63"E is mount sinai, he was taken into a ufo or simply traveled back  to retrieve the rest of the egyptian peoples and 'descended' to mount horeb or the first mount sinai where a large population of the egyptian race (2 million) were still camping.  There were 2 mount sinais.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Asfd777 (talk • contribs) 17:54, 8 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change to Mount Horeb 

message: I rewrote and reorganized the article, and I added other candiates for the Biblical Mt Sinai.--Tomtom9041 20:38, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrote and Reorganized

message: Created its own article and moved pertinent pertinents to it. Its obviuos that there are those who are conflicted and refuse to see that others do not agree that the Biblical Mount Sinai and Mount Sinai are coterminus.--Tomtom9041 01:10, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved additional Biblical Mount Sinai edits to that page.--Tombombadil 23:09, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved Biblical Mount Sinai

message: The article notes that the Mosque and Chapel are not open to the public. Whether by design or accident, I was at the top of the hill lat week (Sat 19th Nov) and the Mosque IS open.....
: Well noted, but need a link for reference for the same.Wikibhai110 (talk) 09:40, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mosque 

message: I am a little thick, it seems. I have now managed to embed the most giant image of the chapel and made a mess of the article. Sorry :o( Could someone tell me how to put in a nice little image, with a caption, that does not make a hideous mess! Thanks and sorry. I could always send the image (and one of the inside of the Mosque) to someone if they could do it more easily?escort78 12:37, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image of Chapel 

message: This section should be rewritten as a very concise version of the main article Biblical Mount Sinai. The enthusiastic Georgian insertion needs toning down in line with historical facts
.--Wetman (talk) 21:51, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Religious significance"

message: The coordinates need the following fixes:
* Write here
98.64.10.49 (talk) 05:29, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinates 

message: There is disagreement if the steps located behind the St Katherine's Monastery are called "The Steps of Penitence".  According to the Lonely Planet as well as a guide who lives in the area that showed me where the steps are started (I hiked them Dec 24, 2008), they are called "The Steps of Repentance".  Legend has it that as punishment for worshipping another god while Moses was away receiving the Ten Commandments, a few people built 3000 steps up to Elijah's Basin before the 750 final steps to the top of the mountain.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Why2jjj (talk • contribs) 05:33, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The 3750 "Steps" 

message: How can this mountain be simultaneously the highest peak in Egypt, and surrounded by higher peaks in the same mountain range? This is inconsistent.--Filll (talk | wpc) 17:18, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's saying that Mount St. Catherine is the highest.Pedantrician (talk) 17:16, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion 

message: According to Exodus 13:21, the Israelites were led by a pillar of cloud by day and a pillar of fire by night. This sounds to me like a description of a volcanic eruption. Exodus 19, beginning at v. 16, also sounds like volcanic activity. If that is taken at face value, modern Mt. Sinai would seem not to be the mountain described in scripture since it apparently is not a volcano. Has anyone mapped the geology of the region and located a volcano that might date the Exodus? Virgil H. Soule (talk) 14:32, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Volcano? 

message: There are other names to Mount Sinai that should be recognized, researched, and placed on the main article. These include:
Mt. Toor
Koh-e-Toor
Jabal-e-Toor
Such references are prominent amongst Muslims and Islamic texts.  Are we not to recognize them?
Furthermore, the word toor in an of itself could be translated to mean "big mountain" or "big ox." Something else to take into consideration.
Example:
Here's a group of muslims praying at Koh-e-Toor, Egypt. www.youtube.com/watch?v=BELD3czPTgQ
They are praying at Mt. Sinai, the surrounding topology (and a fair mind) should confirm that.
I wouldn't be surprised if there were a volcanic mountain named Toor elsewhere in the region...
Any non-bigoted thoughts?
192.12.83.106 (talk) 06:07, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative Names 

message: Note 4 is from a fundamentalist Christian organization that is not authoritative on matters of history and geography. Note 5 is from the discredited pseudoarchaeologist Ron Wyatt. I recommend that they be removed and replaced with better sources. I will do so soon unless there are good reasons to do otherwise. Wilson44691 (talk) 17:06, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed both as non-WP:RS. The last sentence fragment: there are no volcanoes in the Sinai Peninsula. should be modified as no recently active volcanoes... per the geology section above. Vsmith (talk) 22:18, 5 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor sources added (Notes 4 & 5); should be removed and replaced 

message: Hashem el-Tarif has been weighed against real information in the ancient texts and appears to be the most valid Mt. Sinai (ten commandments, Moses, etc.)without any real contest. Other arguments are agenda based and not fact based. Please see the Naked Archeologist from the History channel to get further perspective. I am not the one to input this information as I suck at citing information. It matters little whether anyone really believes this though. Most do not seek the truth as I do and as such will not care either way. Good luck.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.129.247.224 (talk) 05:18, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Discussed in the Hashem el-Tarif article.  "See also" link to it added. Hertz1888 (talk) 08:28, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  There is more proof of the biblical mountain of God in a different location. 

message: I make no claim about whether any of this is correct; I'm simply putting it here for others to access.
* http://sinaiinarabia.com
* The Arabian Cradle of Zion. Moses, Muhammad, and Wahhabo-Zionism
LAURENT GUYÉNOT • JULY 8, 2019 
http://www.unz.com/article/the-arabian-cradle-of-zion/
* Mount Sinai in Arabia : the true location revealed
Author:	Joel Richardson
Publisher:	[United States] : Winepress, [2019] ©2019
isbn=1949729044
deisenbe (talk) 15:13, 9 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Coming in late. Richardson is a fringe writer, those books not self-published seem to be published by WorldNet Books. Doug Weller talk 11:01, 16 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sinai in Arabia material 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Mount Sinai (disambiguation) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 21:00, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: If Mt. Catherine is the highest peak in Egypt, how can it be surrounded by higher peaks? 67.44.208.64 (talk) 20:04, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Height 

message: I think this article is a good candidate for combining with the other Mt.Sinai article. It seems there is a lot of overlap between the two. What do you guys think?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Nycarchitecture212 (talk • contribs) 03:39, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Combine with other Mt.Sinai article