Talk:Element Yachts

message: I am teetering between 'mid' and 'low' in my opinion.  The company has sufficient historical strength to have survived two name changes and a transit between generations, and the original ancestor might be able to demonstrate more notability than the present article reflects.  However, this is a small company with what appears to be a presently undistinguished but globally sold product. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 16:20, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Importance with respect to WP Companies

message: * The "Ontario Corporation Number" for P.C. Mould, Ltd., the "grandmother" of Element Yachts, is 000641104 according to the PDF document accessible via http://www.gov.on.ca/GOPSP/en/graphics/054408.pdf.  The PDF document is Volume 139-36 of The Ontario Gazette, dated 9 September 2006. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:25, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pieces of info that might help track down more info 

message: === Contour 34 SC ===
This might be of use to the article.  It concerns a product produced by the mother of Element Yachts, Contour Yachts (news citation):
:--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:24, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

text: --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:35, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boat reviews 

message: This might be of use to the article.  It concerns a product produced by the mother of Element Yachts, Contour Yachts (news citation):
:--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 02:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contour 34 SC 

message: This is a short preview blurb from 2002:
:--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:24, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contour 50 

message: :--User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 03:35, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contour 30 MK II 

message: Multi's are really a specialised area of yachts with a devoted but limited following. I have have never heard of this company, but then i do not live in Canada. The Article reads a bit like thinly disguised marketing to me, and really belongs in a trade list of some sort. 
If the boats are really that well known and mass produced they will have a class association of some sort. In my opinion a boat really needs to be produced and sold in the hundreds before it warrants an Article, or has repeatably performed and excelled in fleets of high number. In which case the class association should prepare an Article on each such boat (not all products) in which the builders name can be mentioned and the class association linked (not the builder) The yacht Article can then be linked to the Multihull template (see templates at foot of Yacht racing for details) where it is more likely to be scrutinised by knowledgable editors. Frankly there are tens of thousands of boat builders in English speaking countries, and many more boats, and I do not yet see anything that distinguishes this one. A scan of Wiki under 'Boat builder' produces some famous names, but this is not one of them. Jagra (talk) 05:28, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Multihulls

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