Talk:Presidency of Salvador Allende

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Project FUBELT - secret CIA operations documents: US government spent millions of dollars to unseat Allende. Explains to the user what the program is.  This is factually correct, as are the other comments.  Salvador Allende was deposed by 1973 coup and Augusto Pinochet - took power in the same 1973 coup.
Further, a referenced paragraph with more historical details is always preferable to a non-referenced article with less histrorical details. Please provide references for new material and do not delete referenced material without discussing it on the talk page.
The removal of Allende was a coup, the use of this word is much more descriptive and accurate than "overthrow".  If necessary, I will add several historians who also call it a "coup".
Signed:Travb 10:01, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Please do not delete

message: I rewrote the first disputed paragraph, deleting paranthesis and deleting "indicted for treason" which is no where found in the text of the document cited.  I replaced this unverifable claim with a verifiable source.Travb 11:08, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Parenthisis

message: Although I might understand why you substitute "land reform" by "land redistribution" (underscoring, as I read it, the fact that it was not a "real" land reform), the word "reform" in itself has nothing POV, and Allende was democratically elected to reform Chile. Everybody wants to reform, even neoliberals do it today! There's nothing POV in the word, only the way you read it. Cheers! Tazmaniacs 13:17, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Un, Taz; "reform" is a purely arbitrary euphemism for property redistribution. It's hard to find a better case of POV on Wiki.--Mike18xx 13:26, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think so. I don't know what the Webster says, but Wordreference gives many sense to this word. The only POV is your reading in it. Reform can be an euphemism for property redistribution, as well as today an euphemism for the Washington consensus policies implemented in the 1990s in South America. It has many different senses. Tazmaniacs 13:40, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I challange you to find any case of "land reform" which does not include some form of government swiping and redistributing stolen property.--Mike18xx 06:25, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mike, when the various Eastern European governments redistributed publicly owned lands after the fall of the Communist regimes, who exactly do you feel they were stealing from? - Jmabel | Talk 23:13, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am unfamiliar with those, but you're making a false-analogy if you're equating that to Allende's land- and mine-grabs. Furthermore, since "land reform" is a English term, but Chile is a Spanish-speaking nation, I see no credible reason for labeling Allende's policies as "reforms" due to usage.--Mike18xx 04:43, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Reforms" vs "policies" 

message: 1. 140% is not hyperinflation.
2. The citation calling it hyperinflation is not listed. References without the abilty to reference them are not reliable and not evaluatable.
3. Adding disputed tag until this nonsense - which was also spread to the hyperinflation page. is corrected
Stirling Newberry 08:56, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: FWIW, it is not saying that 140% is hyperinflation, but that 508% is. Also, I gather that you are disputing a single sentence. Would it be acceptably to you to downgrade this to  after the particular sentence, which produces (dubious assertion—see talk page) ? - Jmabel | Talk 17:08, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is all hair-splitting akin to arguing that a rocket-sled straight to Hell ain't actually going to Hell -- despite the visible flames dead-ahead -- because the rockets haven't throttled up to full-power.--76.17.171.199 17:38, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allende and Hyperinflation 

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message: Oh man, the passive voice sucks. Can someone think of a better way to phrase that? Or is that deliberately phrased not to 'spoil' the following sentence which lists the coups and other such things? Krupo 22:04, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "His presidency was ended" 

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message: The military dictatorship was in fact a Junta conformed by the four armed forces of Chile, the Army, the Navy, the Air force and Carabineros de Chile (police force). Pinochet was named head of the Junta in 1973.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ynotle (talk • contribs) 03:18, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ...military dictatorship under General Augusto Pinochet. 

message: Does anyone have any information on the amount of aid that was cut to Chile under Allende, and the possible effect on Chile's economy. Even a simple percentage of GDP would be a good step. There is a short sentence mentioning the reduction, but it doesn't go into any detail, and it's not mentioned in the Economics section at all. Also, although this would be harder to find and interpret, is there any information on more clandestine efforts to destabilize the Chilean economy? I've already lost the link, but someone linked to a page mentioning that Nixon was trying to get exactly that done, but it didn't mention what steps were actually taken. The only example I can think of is funding the striking truckers, but I don't really know much about that.Hisownspace (talk) 08:29, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  US effect on economy 

message: Why no mention of the police state under Allende, with far more deaths under him than under Pinochet by at least one order of magnitude?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.41.34.45 (talk) 21:39, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Will take a look into the content, be remember Wikipedia has a policy of a neutral point of view and of using reputable non-biased sources. I you want to include abuses occurring during the Allende years by yourself go on, but do so using neutral wording. Dentren | Talk 14:46, 25 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I am only interested in the subject and had not heard of this until I read this article.91.156.75.23 (talk) 12:07, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: All links you have provided are broken. Dentren | Talk 14:42, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I havent provided any links.91.156.75.23 (talk) 15:45, 28 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deaths under Allende Goverment 

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message: In the first paragraph of the "Economics" section, there appear to be two sources for the claim that the real average GDP experienced negative growth between 1971 and 1973. The first (source 13) links to nothing. The second links to a chart of GDP per capita, which in fact shows an increase during this time period. Is there something to account for this? At best the source is a measurement of a different metric than the article provides, and at worst the source contradicts the article. 
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thread_title:  Sources 13/14