Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Trödel

message: I would also like to add that I apologized for and acknowledged my own less than stellar civility. This RfC was only filed because Trodel did not let the issue die. I have apologized repeatedly, and continue to apologize for accidental rudeness I might display. My only reason for RfC, as Shimeru very succinctly put, was the abuse of blocking power. I deny being called a troll, as I never made any statements to start a fight, although the appearance in the community seems to be that I took it personally, which I did not really, I just wanted him to cite his sources, but that's neither here nor there. I want to make it clear that I am willing to stay way from trodel, provided he does the same. If he stops watching my edits, I would not bring another word against him. TheGreenFaerae 21:54, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because a fairy is generaly seen as a tiny winged female figure.--BirgitteSB 22:26, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah yes but a Green Fairy, as seen in Eurotrip, is a fat profane dude that parties. If you are not familiar, it is a euphemisim for the drink absinthe, which is one of the msot potent alcoholic beverages in the world.I chose the name, becaus eit was also an inspiration for some of history's most creative minds, such as Edgar Allen Poe and Vincent Van Gough. My intentions in using the name was to instill a vision of creative inspiration. TheGreenFaerae 06:04, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shimeru's summary 

message: How do any of my actions towards any of you classify as trolling? I do not feel that Trodels use of the word is anything less than a personal attack, as he calls me a troll against all the rest of you, even though I have done nothing but thank you all for your feedback. If I am missing something, please, tell me.TheGreenFaerae 06:10, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trolling all of you. 

message: I think i know what email Trodel is referring to, and I simply said that, as he would claim contact with him was trolling, I would consider his reviewing of my edits in the same way, and take the appropriate action if need be. I never threatened to make his lfie difficult, as he put it, and I challenge him to produce proof of such a statement. This was clearly nothing more than what he said to me, and his blocking of me, fulfilling his threats is what caused this RfC, not an attempt to make his life difficult. I asked several times for him to leave me alone. when he fulfilled threats to block me, I simply took the action I needed to to get him to leave me alone. TheGreenFaerae 06:20, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  E-Mail Threat 

message: The proof Trodel put forth originally should be ntoed as not being a good precedent, or official policy as he would state it. I nominated a user, that, if he had done a self-nom, probably would have won. Trodel pointed to cases where the nominee was as experienced as I was, and that was obviously a different situation.  I think this is important to keep in mind, as Trodel had an opinion that was not directly supported by Wikipedia, and I still do not see how I was wrong to ask for proof? My words were wrong, i acknowledge, but since when was it an offense to ask for WP:CITE?TheGreenFaerae 06:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Tangentially, I would suggest that you sit back for a while and refrain from further edits to the RfC pages unless there's a need to clarify something or answer a question.  Repeatedly making the same arguments won't help your case and might hurt it.  You've filed a request for comment; best to wait, now, until people have commented.  This is not necessarily a quick process.  Awareness of your own missteps is good; restraint in making your case would be good also.  Take a short break from the whole affair, try to calm down, and approach the matter rationally.  You feel mistreated -- so does Trodel.  Neither of you is wrong.  (Or both of you are, to look at it another way.)  But you won't achieve much if your approach is overly emotional, except possibly to alienate other editors. Shimeru 11:27, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TRodel's proof for his statements 

message: I think a fair arbitration on the matter would be a ban on me from editing his talk page, emailing him, or going after his edits, and banning him from mine, respectively. If we come across each other randomly on the project, that is one thing, but pointed editing with the sole intention of reviewing, or trolling, or any other personal motivation towards a user should be banned for both of us. Does this sound like a bad deal?TheGreenFaerae 22:39, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Fair Solution 

message: It seems to be going nowhere. --Spartaz 20:53, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be delisted (or at least inactivated) if ArbCom accepted the case, but it appears the arbitrators want to see if the dispute can be resolved through other means including (but not necessariy limited to) this RfC, so I wouldn't delist at this time. If there are no further disputes arising out of this matter, perhaps its importance will fade with time. If there are further disputes, the RfC can receive renewed attention, or if nothing else works another arbitration filing can be made. Newyorkbrad 21:02, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. --Spartaz 21:15, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree fully Spartaz, but it seems the ArbCom does not. I fail to see how it can be resolved when Trodel so blatantly dismisses any attempt at compromise, but I have nothing more I can do.TheGreenFaerae 07:39, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why don't you yourself just drop the matter? If you just ignore him, there will be no more problem. – Chacor 07:52, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am tryign to. He won't leave me alone. I agrreeed to Val42's compromise, whcih essentially jsut forced us to ignore each other. I want to walk away, but he won't.TheGreenFaerae 09:54, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Bullshit. Hipocrite - «Talk» 11:42, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please maintain civility, Hipocrite.TheGreenFaerae 22:18, 23 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I acknowledge that, VERY recently, he seems to be tryign to ignore me, but this is only as of Feb 21. His edits before that, particularly the 4chan make it abundant that before this point he was not trying to ignore me. Also, his continued watching of my talk page, as can be seen at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Tr%C3%B6del/Task2 can be put forth as further evidence that eh is not trying to ignore me. Chacor, you need to stop your one-sided unconstructive comments. If you do not have something truly constructive to say, just "I'm the bad guy" comments, do not post them as it will escalate the situation, and I will consider it as trolling by Trodel's own definition. This isn't your fight, so i respectfully ask you to stop trying to use such totally one-sided comments towards Trodel's favor. If you do not like me, fine, you have made that abundantly clear. If you have nothing further to add, i ask you to please stay out of the discussion. If you wish to continue to make one sided comments regarding criticism you have with my behavior, please post your comments to my talk page, where they will not hinder or escalate this conflict.TheGreenFaerae 11:03, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Now that this has escalated to RFAR shall we delist this? 

message: When I first commented on this page I strongly believed that someone willing to make accusations against another editor by filing an RfC was obliged to provide a strong case by researching policy and listing diffs.  By the end of the above conversation my view had already softened.  After further examples of the problems with the dispute reslution process, I have completely changed my mind on this issue.  Any and all experienced Wikipedians need to be willing to step up as Shimeru did and strenghten malformed RfC's so that all disputes filed have the best chance of being investigated by as large an audience as possible.--BirgitteSB 22:38, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  BirgitteSB's striken comments