Talk:List of pirates

message: The general Antonio Paredes (1969-1907) was forced to leave Trinidad after being confiscated the weapons with which he intended to invade Venezuela to overthrow the dictatorship of Cipriano Castro.  He left Trinidad on February 4, 1907 with 13 men aboard a scohoner. The expedionaries landed in Pedernales and occupy several towns. Look for the road to Ciudad Bolivar. The government realizes the invasion of Paredes and goes out in its search. Paredes is captured on February 12; moored with rope is taken before the head of the local government; when he is in front of the official, he shouts: "Kill me, but do not go to humilliate". They did not kill him yet.
President Cipriano Castro gave, by means of a telegram in code, the order for the execution of Paredes. At dawn on February 15 he is taken out of the steamboat cabins where he was taken and one of the executioners says to him: "Get up, we are going to carry another boat." Paredes smiled and said, "It's to kill me, I knew that I was playing life when I set foot in Venezuela. Those were his last words. As he leaves the stateroom, his head is torn to shots. As he promised his father, they would no longer mock him. His body was cast into the waters of the Orinoco.
In 1921 he traveled to Germany where he organized with General Francisco Linares Alcántara Estevez an an expedition to invade Venezuela to overthrow the Gomez dictatorship. In Kiel proceed to hire mercenaries and complete the purchase of two boats, the Odin and the Harrier. The conspiracy is discovered by the gomecista diplomatic agent, José Ignacio Cárdenas and the ships are apprehended in Gibraltar. The expeditionaries must flee to Mexico. In 1924 in New York he tried, again to promote an armed invasion against Gomez with the purchase of the ship Gloucester. In Miami the name is changed to Angelita however the ship suffers a breakdown on the high seas and must land in Havana. In short, all his conspiratorial projects against Gómez failed, Ortega Martínez died in exile in Mexico City.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.210.169.195 (talk) 04:59, 1 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Antonio Paredes

message: What about Ryoko the pirate who chased off the Mongols during the Mongol invasions of Japan and became a heroine? Chris 10:13, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ryoko and La Rocque the pirates

message: As frequently there seems to be no information on the birth/death dates of pirates - at least, I've found it hard to track down that information - could we perhaps include the years active, and possibly the general area most active.. I appreciate this could cause problems as some pirates moved around quite a bit.
I was also curious as to whether we could reformat the list so it looks more tidy - I'd make an example here but I don't know the codes to do it yet.
Any input would be most appreciated,
shas (talk) 16:10, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I've had a shot at adapting a table for use on this page - the results can be seen over on my sandbox. Opinions/comments welcome shas (talk) 12:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've started to put the new format of table into the article. Work on this will continue.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shas (talk • contribs) 21:50, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: An idea regarding this page

message: Some of the "pirates" on this list seem a little odd to me. I'm not entirely sure how some of the medieval pirates listed are actually pirates - looking through the articles I can't find anything that would suggest piracy (Eric of Pomerania, for example). I'm also not sure how Thomas Paine is a pirate either. I'll hold off on removing them as I may well be missing something, though. shasYarr!/T|C 14:59, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: PS: I've been unable to find any images of ancient world pirates. Not even statues : ( the rest are done though. shasYarr!/T|C 01:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Some odd additions

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message: Hey guys... I'm not sure if someone is actively working on this issue or not, but watching this page grow from almost nothing, I've noticed a lot of entries that are either red links (no article for the name), or have no citations or information to explain the entry (NOTE: Bambos Christophi and John Oberlin Harris as quick examples)...
Here's what I'm proposing/suggesting... within the next couple weeks, I think that we need to go through this list and clean it up.  If the name is redlink, and there is no citation or verification available, then the person should not be listed.  Taking the above two names as example, there is no way (using the information available on their entries) to verify that the person even ever existed.  With a quick scan through the list, there are at least a dozen of these entries.  If the person named does not have an article, and there is no citation to show proof of being a pirate, then they do not belong on this list.
Later, we will also need to start checking each name's article to see if there is citation of them being a pirate (privateer, corsair, etc.)  The references at the bottom of this list also need some cleanup.  If we could get a wikified ref list for each entry that would help also...
I'll wait a couple days before starting and major deletionist activities, to give everyone time to answer/fix the issues... 
Arrr... - Adolphus79 (talk) 04:23, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redlink/notability/citation cleanup... 

message: The introduction says "This is a list of known pirates, buccaneers, corsairs, privateers, and others involved in piracy.", while the article privacy starts with "Piracy is a robbery committed at sea, or sometimes on the shore, without a commission from a sovereign nation (robbery with sovereign commission is privateering, and distinct from piracy)." The list contains a large number of privateers (and quite a few people who were just admirals fighting the Habsburg Empire at some point). According to the intro of "piracy" these should be excluded and/or the name of this article should be changed. I think the list will be a lot more convincing and authoritative if such people are weeded out along with the people Adolphus79 mentioned above for whom no evidence is given that they were pirates. I've removed Hendrik Brouwer for example. Read that article and see if he fits the description "pirate" in any reasonable way. Afasmit (talk) 20:44, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Piracy

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message: There doesn't seem to be any information available on either of these men. 
*Vincent Kraal: A pirate known for his vicious and violent way of capturing or murdering his opponents. Modern historians think his treasure was captured by the pirates who killed the entire crew and sank their ship to the bottom of the Atlantic Ocean.
*Captain Karl Welsch: A press ganged sailor and sharpshooter who fought for France then England during the Napoleonic Wars. Transported to Australia as a convict. Escaped captivity and became the "Terror of the Tasman Sea".
Could someone look into this ? 72.74.224.82 (talk) 05:25, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
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message: Will be interenting if you include the capitains of the germany disguise ships used to sobatege allied ships in south atlantic and other ocean areas during the wwii... Like:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_auxiliary_cruiser_Widder
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_cruiser_Admiral_Graf_Spee
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_auxiliary_cruiser_Thor
and several others listed here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:World_War_II_cruisers_of_Germany
Some this ships served as subarine refuel ships... 
190.111.68.240 (talk) 03:02, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  WWII Germany sabotage and piracy activities. 

message: ...and thus should be listed only once.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.171.166.202 (talk) 09:12, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Zymen Dansiker" and "Simon de Danser" are the same person... 

message: Did anyone else see that daily show episode a long while back with the guy talking about the life of jesus? According to him the romans considered Jesus to be a Pirate/Bandit. I think Jesus would make an excellent addition to this list if anyone can help me find the citation.
I think it was "Zealot: The Life and Times of Jesus of Nazareth" but I can't find the exact daily show episode and I don't have the book at my local library.
Tristyn⌘ 19:46, 15 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jesus? 

message: Plenty of piracy in Asia over the past thousand years too.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.78.160.232 (talk) 10:04, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Western-centric 

message: The list has two similar names: Edward Low under The Age of Buccaneers, and Edward "Ned" Low under the Golden Age of Piracy. They're clearly two different people, but the links in both names go to the article on the latter.
212.40.106.98 (talk) 01:11, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion / incorrect links re. Edward Low 

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