Talk:Stamford Raffles

message: Talk:Thomas Stamford Raffles - He ran away after signing the treaty and left Farquhar in charge.... [[User:ryanlim2002]  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ryanlim2002 (talk • contribs) 12:59, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He did pick the spot. We're not crediting him as the first governor of Singapore. He did sign the treaty with the Temmengong that gave the land to the British, so... Karajanis (talk) 07:24, 9 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Founder Of Singapore

message: Talk:Thomas Stamford Raffles - Thomas Stamford Raffles → Stamford Raffles - Stamford Raffles is currently a redirect. He's almost always known as Stamford Raffles; only rarely as Thomas Raffles. Jooler 11:01, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Move request

message: I've toned this done a little bit. Busiest port city, certainly. Alphax τεχ 01:33, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Largest empire the world has ever seen? 

message: Why don't you put another of Raffles's Contributions like found a plant named Rafflesia Arnoldi (well known as "Bunga Bangkai" in indonesian) and also a park (well known as "Kebun Raya Bogor") in Bogor, Indonesia!?
: Fascinating. Can you add some of that yourself? - DavidWBrooks 15:37, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another Raffles's contributions? 

message: I have read or heard that Raffles was a passionate specialist of the Malay world and culture, and that his choice of the island of SingaPura/Singapore might have been highly influenced by the reference he knew from the Sejarah Melayu, where Singapore is described as a ancient place of glory.
And that Raffles, arriving in Singapore, heard references by locals to the nearby "Forbidden Hill" (now Fort Canning) as the resting place of great Malay Kings (including Iskandar Shah himself) further excited his plans of chosing Singapore.
I have, however, no primary or detailed information about that theory...
Toh-mah 17:20, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Raffles' fantasy of SingaPura 

message: In this source, it says that he was originally known as "J. S. Raffles", and later became known as Sir Stamford Raffles. I doubt it is a typo, because the author writes the initials multiple times, and even quotes a letter by Raffles. Although, it is possible that he misread a T as a J on the signature. — 0918BRIAN • 2006-04-4 22:02
Actually I believe he was baptized with the last name Bingley even, but the name issue isn't all that important. Rev. Bingley was his godfather and may have put him through the two years of official schooling he received, but since he mentions little about this in his own writings and since joining the East India Company in correspondences (I'm going with the ones he's having with Gillespie and Minto and whatnot) he's been going as Raffles. If anyone feels that this is worthy of a mention I can add a bit of his naming thing, but we don't have to, it's not all that important. - Karajanis 06:27, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Original name?

message: Okay, I've finished a complete biography of him from mostly two or three sources I have here (Wurtzburg mostly, also a bit of others like Turnbull). However, I'm a history student and have no clue regarding his interest in botany and hence the specimens he collected and studied. Please someone add a section on that. Also, if there are any errors, please correct them. I feel more sources are needed but my studies require me to move on to other Singaporean and British Malayan subjects. I might also write a slightly more sympathetic bio of Farquhar, Travers, and Crawfurd, but not at the present time. If anyone can add on to what I have here, it would be really great. Also, more pictures would be great. Thanks. Karajanis 14:25, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Complete biography, and need contributions on other subjects about him

message: I'm afraid I don't know the details,                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                      but I get the distinct feeling that Raffles was even more active in various parts of Asia than this article describes. A great many items in the British Museum collection were brought back from Asia by him, or are otherwise connected to him, and this element of his life is not discussed in the article at all. What exactly was his relationship with the Museum? Was he simply donating things to the nation, in the way Lord Elgin did, or did he have a closer relationship with the institution? What books did he write? Did he live in other parts of Asia and have interesting or important impacts outside of Singapore, Malaysia and Java? Again, I do not know much about the man, but from the frequency with which his name pops up I would not be surprised if there's a lot of room for expansion in this here article. Thanks. LordAmeth 23:03, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other activities in Asia, and connections to London 

message: There was already a Malay fishing village in Singapore prior to Sir Stamford Raffles's arrival. Singapore had already been known as to the Malays as "Singapura" (meaning "city of lions"), and according to historical sources on Singapore, the name "Singapura" was given by an exiled Sumatran Malay prince called Sang Nila Utama. (See History of Singapore) Singapore was known before then as "Temasek." Therefore, Singapore is a corrupted term for "Singapura." Unfortunately, history has shown favour to the colonist administrator as the founder instead of the people that found it beforehand.  It's like saying the British found Hong Kong, whereas it was already a Chinese fishing village when the British first arrived there.  The name "Hong Kong" is originally known as "Zianggang." (See Hong Kong). --Fantastic4boy 06:52, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sang Nila Utama or Sir Stamford Raffles as founder of Singapore?

message: The article has Raffles appointed Lieutenant-Governor of Java in 1811, and speaks of his "governorship".  Did he serve under a Governor, or was the Lieutenant-Governor the senior official in Java?  History_of_Indonesia#Dutch_state_rule gives the short period of British rule is given less than a sentence, describing it as "a short British rule under Thomas Stamford Raffles".  --  Kirk Hilliard (talk) 05:58, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Governor of Java? 

message: "....into schooling Raffles, in Raffles Institution and University." This does not make sense. Tusbra (talk) 02:32, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Something got garbled. 

message: Under "Legacy - Sports and recreation" there appears a bullet point "Raffle Tickets ( Raffle )" but the gambling game of a raffle is much older then Sir Stamford and appears to have a different etymology.  I think someone is having a bit of fun.
Also, if a section for "In popular culture" is deemed necessary, Gov. Raffles appears as a character in Patrick O'Brian's Aubrey/Maturin novels "The Thirteen-Gun Salute" and  "Nutmeg of Consolation" (and possibly others, I haven't read the rest yet.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.237.4.150 (talk) 03:22, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Raffle tickets? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I noticed there's an inconsistency between his causes of death in the infobox (brain tumor) and the actual section ON his death (apoplexy).
Also, we really should make an article on the Battle of the Kraton. Uaiazr Jxhiosh (talk) 00:44, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Correction and Suggestion