Talk:Slavery in Canada

message: Everything in the article ends with the banning of slavery in Canada, unfortunately that is not where slavery ended. Sexual slavery is a huge problem, especially amongst the native population. I'm a student and I am kind of busy at the moment but I could write up a small section on modern slavery in about a week from now if nobody with more experience is up to the task. Just csting this idea out there, it makes no sense to have a 'slavery in Canada' without even mentioning current forms of slavery. Seems revisionist or at least short sighted. Not Joey Clavette (talk) 21:37, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone ahead and created the section. It's admittedly a little shakey but I thought it was important to have one. I ask that anyone who finds a problem with it not remove it completely but fix what problems you see and I wouldn't mind being consulted about it and coming to conclusions through debate. Not Joey Clavette (talk) 23:06, 18 January 2015 (UTC)

text: Modern, illegal forms of slavery are pretty different than the traditional legalized form of slavery that most readers come to an article like this to look for.  In my opinion this article is about that traditional legalized, nationwide form.  It seems out of place to call out "sexual slavery" in the first paragraph of an article about slavery in Canada, when it is explicitly illegal in Canada and shares little in common with historical concepts of slavery based on ethnicity.  It's easy to identify those types of slavery because they happen to large swaths of a population almost universally, like blacks in the US or Jews in Egypt.  Women or men are not, in general, subject to sexual slavery in Canada. If you're going to add this topic out of a sense of social justice you might as well add a section on "economic slavery" for all the minimum-wage workers in Canada.  I respectfully submit that adding these topics are not relevant to this article, even if they have respectable social justice motives.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.245.227.189 (talk) 05:24, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Modern Slavery?

message: Her analytical narrative is an interpretation of history, a list of probabilities calculated through an analysis of first person sources, and other then-contemporary sources. It is not fact, but an interpretation, a possibility. It can not be formatted as fact. I have altered the small article on this page giving Afua Cooper's views a more neutral tone. TheEndingDay (talk) 17:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Cooper's Hanging of Angelique

message: Did not some of the United Empire Loyalists being slaves to Canada with them? -- stewacide 06:27, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. They brought black slaves along with them. -- Mathieugp 07:52, 11 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: United Empire Loyalists

message: I moved this from the article page, as it seems to be more a point for discussion.  I am not vouchsafing for the truth of any of this, but am simply moving and refactoring it.
:"Black slaves lived in the British regions of Canada in the 17th and 18th centuries — 104 were listed in a 1767 census of Nova Scotia, but their numbers were small until the United Empire Loyalist influx after 1783. As white Loyalists fled the new American Republic, they took with them about 2000 black slaves".  The last sentence of this entry is inaccurate. The majority of the 2000 blacks were 'former' slaves who had been granted their freedom by the proclamation of John Murray, Lord Dunmore, on the 7th of November 1775. Dunmore was the last colonial governor of Virginia. Therefore these individuals came to Nova Scotia as Loyalists in their own right and not as the property of white Loyalists. User: Sjameswhiteland (talk}
: 7&6=thirteen (☎) 18:12, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: February 2013

message: I'm adding a section as strangely this article neglects any mention of Lower Canada or Quebec (I also note it's a bit anachronistic to refer to Ontario here as it was, I believe, still known as Upper Canada when Simcoe governed. But this is just a start. Note it's been a while so help with formatting and citations, etc., welcome. I've put them in but probably not in the best format. Gregalton (talk) 09:46, 13 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I inserted some text to clarify why slavery was 'innocuous' after Monk's decisions, that is, that he rendered it unenforceable in the province and made it a place to which slaves could flee. Gregalton (talk) 17:32, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding a section on Lower Canada (Quebec), and reference to Monk and court decisions there. 

message: The lede is clear that this article covers slavery in the region that now forms Canada, not post-confederation slavery.  This repeated edit  is not constructive. We are not discussing slavery in Canada as a country, we are discussing the history of slavery in what is now Canada. It's irrelevant whether Canada existed as a country  when the slavery happened or when the Treaty of Paris was signed. Meters (talk) 18:19, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pre-confederation slavery 

message: "These developments virtually ended slavery in British North America by 1820. No more than a handful of bondsmen could have remained when slavery formally ended throughout the empire with the implementation of the British Emancipation Act on 1 August 1834." Seymour Drescher and Stanley L. Engerman, A Historical Guide to World Slavery (1998) p 107.  More precise is: "Probably the last slaves to become free were two who are mentioned by the late Sir Adam Wilson, Chief Justice successively of the Courts of Common Pleas and Queen's Bench at Toronto. These were "two young slaves, Hank and Sukey whom he met at the residence of Mrs. O'Beilly, mother of the venerable Miles O'Beilly, Q. C, in Halton County about 1830. They took freedom under the Act of 1833 and were perhaps the last slaves in the province."   Rjensen (talk) 00:47, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I've read, many slaves entered into fixed terms of servitude.  The failure of the Lower Canada Legislature to clarify the rights of slaves and owners after two early 1800's rulings freeing captured Montreal slaves from jail on technical grounds (jail rather than house of correction) was virtually the end of public records on slavery there. There were no more advertisements for slave sales or asking for the return of escaped slaves, and almost no more known private sales. The only known sales after that time were to people who appeared likely to be removing the slave from the jurisdiction (a sailor and fur traders). Meters (talk) 02:57, 13 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Were there slaves in 1833?

message: The first sentence of this section currently reads "In 1628 the first recorded black slave in Canada was brought by a British convoy to New France."  I worked on some related articles, about a year ago, and my recollection of the references I used then was that this section, this sentence in particular, is that this section is quite misleading.
My recollection is that the Native American slaves, almost all captured and sold by rival Native American Nations, dwarfed the small number of slaves of African descent - in New France.
I think the lead paragraph of this section should make this point.  Geo Swan (talk) 01:13, 28 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Problems with the "Under French rule" section