Talk:Locomotives of the Great Western Railway

message: Talk page for Locomotives of the Great Western Railway!  Please talk! Dunc|☺ 18:31, 27 September 2005 (UTC)

message: Am I right? Is this a 9700 class ? Dunc|☺ 18:33, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought 97xx locos were part of the GWR 5700 Class, but may be wrong. Our Phellap 19:09, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, well according to http://www.eclipsehistory.org.uk/steam8.htm#Steam basically "GWR 7700 Class engine with ide tanks fitted", and 7700 are 5700s.  Also http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/m_in_060_5700.htm "One small separate series within the class were numbers 9700 to 9710 as these were locomotives fitted with condensing gear for working the meat traffic over London's Metropolitan line to Smithfield market. A prototype was built in 1932 from engine number 8700 with pannier tanks of reduced length so that the recirculating Weir pump and associated pipework could be installed. After a year on trial, the only modification needed for the production of the small class was an increase in the water capacity. The shape of the tanks was altered to join with the running plate at the rear increasing capacity to 1250 gallons. The prototype was modified to this design and renumbered 9700. A replacement for 8700 was built in 1934 by GWR Swindon" so, I guess so, it's just I've never seen one before. Dunc|☺ 19:16, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok makes sense. Might be worth putting all 77xx and 97xx under the 5700 Class for now to save having lots of short articles. They are basically all the same thing - just like the different sub-classes for modern day diesel/electric locos. Our Phellap 22:06, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  identify this engine: 9700 Class ? 

message: My ABC of GWR Locomotives (1945? edition) shows three locos in this class: 3574/3575/3577; notes show them to have been built at Wolverhampton 1895-7 Peter Shearan 16:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 517 Class

message: As I have put at the head of the list, my ABC is dated c1945, and many of the earlier locos are obviously not included here. Where there are some longer lists (eg TVR) there are gaps in the numbering system where locos had been scrapped, presumably. Peter Shearan 18:32, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Constituent companies' locos

message: The Great Western Railway article is pushing towards GA status but is now rather long.  One of the sections that could be easily moved is that dealing with the history of GWR locomotives, which would find a natural home here.  It would make this more of an article and less of a list, but my only concern would then be the length of this article! Geof Sheppard (talk) 13:34, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger from GWR article

message: Things have gone awry in this article as regards the list of the locomotives built by the Armstrong brothers, Joseph and George. In fact, George doesn't even get a mention (though he does elsewhere, including his own stub-length article).
George worked independently at Stafford Road, Wolverhampton after Joseph's departure to Swindon in 1864, and right up to his retirement in 1892. He should have a section to himself before Dean (section 2.4), headed George Armstrong (Wolverhampton 1864-1892). Among the designs that should be attributed to him not Joseph are the 517 and 645 classes. There are doubtless others; I will write again when I have the full information to hand. 
The 517 and 645 have their own articles, which need correcting. Delete 'Joseph', insert 'George'.
By the way, Joseph Armstrong was my great-great grandfather!
Tim Roberts
8474tim (talk) 19:31, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Articles on 517 & 645 classes amended. --Redrose64 (talk) 14:32, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armstrong Locomotives 

message: More on the same subject: in addition to taking Wolverhampton engines out of the list of Joseph Armstrong's 'narrow gauge' list of locos, there are some important classes that have been omitted, i.e. his 2-2-2 and 2-4-0 express engines (some of which do at least get mentioned in the text).
Thank you for your interest!
8474tim (talk) 20:52, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armstrongs again 

message: I cannot see these in the GWR Locomotives article.
THere are pictures of these in warwickshirerailways web site under BIRMINGHAM SNOW HILL photographs with some explanation of these twenty locos . They were rebuilds of DEAN GOODS engines it says.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.173.147.255 (talk) 17:43, 20 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  3900 series 2-6-2t engines 

message: I have added a section on Holden and his experimental oil-fired loco. 
Can anyone clarify his dates at GWR?  The best data on the loco suggest 1901-2 for build, but Holden's page has him leaving GWR before then. John M Brear (talk) 11:24, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Replied at Talk:James Holden (locomotive engineer)#Dates at GWR and Talk:GWR 101 Class#Holden's move from GWR to GER; note that per WP:MULTI having more than one discussion on the same topic can be confusing. --Redrose64 (talk) 16:21, 2 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the Holden section and moved 101 to Churchward. As in GWR 101 Class, my authority is Haresnape (1976), but there may be more information to come from the relevant RCTS volume (see Talk:GWR 101 Class) --Verbarson (talk) 19:21, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Holden's 101 class 

message: I think that this article is now fairly complete as far as GWR engines in the 20th century is concerned. Is it also complete for the 19th century? If so, the first  can be removed.--Verbarson (talk) 16:34, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: There being no replies, and with no 'obvious entries' missing, I have removed  from the article. Verbarson (talk) 14:49, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expand list satisfied?