Wikipedia talk:Semantic Wikipedia

message: I've been reading in the last few days a couple of papers about "Semantic WikpediA" and "Semantic WikiMedia", they are dated 2006. Any chance the proposed extensions will be integrated in WikipediA any time soon?
I'm not claiming it's easy (of course is not!), I'm only a bit disappointed about not finding any roadmap for this integration here, in this discussion page. Perhaps I'm missing some useful link to the roadmap?
Zacchiro 16:01, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm also curious about the roadmap towards a semantic Wikiepdia. --GrandiJoos 17:46, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Same here. I am not in the know about the cutting edge of wikipedia, but after doing some research, apart from the fact the semantic extention is in constant development, there doesn't seem to be any plans to adopt it. I want it in asap. Chendy (talk) 09:46, 25 May 2008 (UTC)

text:  I think we need to send a request out to the semantic developers for a roadmap, and ensure the issue is discussed at the summit.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.92.232.96 (talk) 21:31, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Integration with Semantic MediaWiki: when? 

message: The big disadvatage of the Semnatic Web movement is that people dont't know WHY or WHAT FOR? Sometimes they answer "to enable computer understand, think, infer, decide". WHY? It is human who has to understand.
Of course there are some reasonable applications of Semantic Web technology for popular use, like price comparison etc. But Wikipedia is not for such tasks.
Besides, Wiki has the mechanism of backlinks, useful for categorisation. Are U sure that it is not enough?
andrzejgo - 0:15, 21 July 2007
: With semantic knowledge you can ask Wikipedia questions like "Give me all American Nobel Prize laureates born after 1950" or "List all German cities with summer temperature higher than 26 C", which are laborious to answer now. I think these are pretty exciting possibilities and probably we haven't thought of the most interesting applications yet. -- þħɥʂıɕıʄʈʝɘɖı 20:04, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why to integrate? 

message: I am intending on developing the content, I my additions are to everybodies liking, if not please discuss with me :) Chendy (talk) 09:32, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Developing this "essay"

message: I started creating the first few "articles" of what could become a Semantic Wikipedia here. Semantic grammar is a language like others, so this Semantic Wikipedia is meant to be an encyclopedia by itself, just like the Swahili or Northern Sami Wikipedias. What do you think about the embryo I created ? Cheers Nicolas1981 (talk) 11:04, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let's get started! 

message: I started this discussion on the village pump that may be of interest here...  Cheers, AndrewGNF (talk) 00:10, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)#silently_encoding_semantic_links|Silently encoding semantic wikilinks]] 

message: Why is it not possible to search and cross link the template parameter values and table content more than we do today?   
Examples:
* Searching template parameter values: I want to search for all articles that contains a certain template (e.g. Infobox City) and a certain parameter value value (e.g. established_date between year X and Y). I may want to sort the search result based on a parameter (e.g. population_size). Since several templates are similar (like Infobox City Spain, Infobox Settlement, etc), I may want to be able to state a set of alternative templates, or a category of templates, or a "super class" templates that other templates have "inherited" parameters from. The search language should handle boolean expressions.  
* Cross linking: E.g. I may want the population size of a city to be mentioned in the floating text and in infoboxes for the city article as well as the corresponding municipality article and country article. But I only want to enter it at one place. Or I may change the value at either of these places. 
* Compilation of template parameter values from many articles: I may want to compile a table or list of all articles that use a certain template. Each article (e.g. each city) should be a row, and each column a parameter value. The table may be sorted and filtered based on certain parameters. This table should be included in an article about the county, and should be automatically updated whenever someone changes a template parameter value in one of the city articles. For example by a robot that subscribes on all articles that uses the template. 
* Linking from one table to infoboxes in several articles: I may want to enter the population size of all the cities in a country only in one table, one row per city, and then use that value in the infoboxes in each city article. 
* Double linking and WYSIWYG editing of infobox fields: It should be easy to edit a parameter value directly within the articles where it is used, for example in a specific value in an infobox or a cell in a table, without editing the template call code or table code. If the value is cross-linked and embedded/transcluded from another article, it should be possible to change its value immediately without looking up the source article. For example, you may double click or right-click on a specific parameter value in a infoxbox or a table cell, or a bookmarked or embedded/transcluded portion of the the text. Then you should be able edit it, or find its source article, or find out what other articles that are using the value and will be affected by a change. A preview of what affects a change would have on other articles would be difficult to achieve but is interesting. It would probably require saving a preview version on the server.
Is there a reason why no robots and extensions for this are developed?
 
Why adding semantic classification markup? What practical use would that give besides the above, and besides today's article categories? 
 
These suggestions would require some kind of addressing mechanism for specific parameters, table cells or portions of the text. These are some suggestions:
* Embedding bookmarked portions of the text: One simple solution would be a template called  and another that makes it possible for article a to embedding, transcluding or double linking bookmarked text from another article. How should the articlename+bookmarkname URI look like? Would this be possible without extensions? 
* Addressing parameter values: We need a URI for addressing the value of the parameter named X, used in the first article call of template Y in article Z. Any suggestions for the address syntax? 
* Addressing table cell values: It should be possible to address a specific value in a table, by the row and column header names, table name (if one is assigned) or table number, and the column header (or column number)article name or article section name. Any suggestions for the address syntax?
These suggestions also require some Boolean search language syntax. Any suggestions?
Mange01 (talk) 19:07, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why not utilize template parameter values and cross-link table values more than today?  

message: #Register a domain name such as semantic-wikipedia.org
#Install MediaWiki with the Semantic MediaWiki plugin
#Download a data dump of Wikipedia and install to the wiki
#Make or use revision control software similar to GIT or SVN to each day merge changes from Wikipedia, but still keep the local changes where semantic annoations have been added.
#Tell people about the wiki on Semantic Web mailing lists etc.
#Publish a dump of RDF-triples etc.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.241.122.126 (talk) 14:42, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to make a Semantic Wikipedia 

message: We should go ahead and do this. The academic community is quite interested in this idea, if the number of related hits on Google Scholar is any indication. Wikipedia's usefulness to researchers would be greatly increased by SMW. Tisane (talk) 09:46, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, Sadads (talk) 11:29, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The above todo-list seems to be a good start. What's the catch? Don't you think it will work?Mange01 (talk) 14:54, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Academia 

message: There's a feature request at the village pump for an automatic link to the beginning of content in the lead, skipping article tags and top hats. It may be of interest to the semantic wikipedia. Diego (talk) 11:11, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, Diego, for this link. The Wikipedia Manual of Style requires the First sentence to include the name of the topic and its concise definition, which is precisely what is needed for a glossary reference by web sites anywhere in the world wide web. The ability to link directly to that sentence is an essential first step in creating a Semantic Wikipedia. Currently no facility exists to point to that specific information. My proposal to have editors insert anchors to that first sentence has been soundly rejected by editors who fear (I think unwisely) a proliferation of such tags throughout Wikipedia, and who seem unconcerned with the potential role that Wikipedia might play in the web. Since the distinction of the "First sentence" is an internal Wikipedia concept, with no syntactic marker for software to grab (indeed that is the technical essence of the problem), I am skeptical that there is a "software solution". Nonetheless, whether the solution is in software or in policy, I would appreciate your feedback on the need for the solution.DrFree (talk) 18:17, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Automatic link to lead section content