Talk:People's Park (Berkeley)

message: Helllo, as you might have noticed, the park no longer exists by virtue of its being demolished currently. I have made a series of updates that reflect these events. 107.142.45.217 (talk) 18:56, 3 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: People's Park does still exist. Stop deleting this comment. 97.88.151.165 (talk) 04:08, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Updates 

message: Hello fellow editors, I believe it goes against the suggested community cultural norms & guidelines here on Wikipedia to delete the comments of others. Removing or altering comments (other than your own!) could lead to some sort of sanctions. Play nice!! Thanks. 98.155.8.5 (talk) 07:10, 4 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of talk page comments? 

message: In my opinion, it would be better to incorporate info in #Past community involvement in one of the subheadings, perhaps #Occupation, rather than have it be its own section or possibly even be deleted. At most, the information in the section could be moved to earlier sections without affecting cohesion. Artwhitemaster (talk) 10:55, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's unreasonable initially to lump all of the sub-sections of #Past community involvement into one paragraph. Then, we can decide what happens with the section as a whole. Feel free to take the liberty of doing this, but I will probably get to it sooner than later. NetHelper (talk) 08:40, 8 January 2024 (UTC)

text: I did as I said I would, but now that I have cleaned up the section I see how anaemic it is and how little it actually adds to the article. If you want to, try and see how you could incorporate what's left of the section into the main bodies and we could really do away with it. NetHelper (talk) 06:15, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion/incorporation of #Past community involvement 

message: Hi, I have made several edits  to this article this morning, including adding some more recent information and adding a photograph. The edit is being fully reverted :( The reverter has raised concerns about the revisions, but could make further edits rather than reverting entirely the new content I have added. Specific edits I believe should occur:
* Mention that the park is fenced off with cargo containers and wire, which has been widely reported.https://www.berkeleyside.org/2024/01/11/berkeley-peoples-park-shipping-container-barbed-wire
* I deleted, "The housing plans have unanimous backing by [...] as well as two-thirds of UC Berkeley students." The survey was taken in May 2022, almost two years ago. It could be mentioned, similar to how the LA times characterizes it ("the majority of students surveyed by an independent agency last May supported it by a margin of 62% to 27%."). There have also been various other surveys over the years. But I think the original is a misleading way to state it.
* Add photograph from the commons.
* Change loaded language such as "said plans have been met with opposition by a small contingent of Berkeley residents and activists" to more general language such as "plans have been met with legal challenges and several protests" Dandelion breeze (talk) 18:14, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The specific way in which the park is fenced off is undue and recentist. A "small contingent" is entirely in line with the cited reliable sources and also fits with the overwhelming confirmed support the project has among local politicians, as well as surveyed students. I have no objection to adding the photo to the body Thenightaway (talk) 18:29, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for discussing. I added the photo. Would like to hear other editors weigh in on these points. To me, "contingent" implies a unified political body, it has a military connotation. I prefer local media to national because they tend to pick up the finer gradations, that the park conflict has been highly dis-unified. I also deleted the claim about 2/3rds because it is mathematically untrue & misleading. It is a useful detail so I added it in the relevant section below Dandelion breeze (talk) 18:57, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Adding information - Jan 2024