Talk:Gundam (fictional robot)

message: So hows it looking now? Diablo-D3 09:41, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Look

message: Personally, I think we should get rid of the Blue Destiny Gundams because their uncanon, video game spawn Gundams. We should have only canon RX-78 Gundams, which means removing them. Now if someone wants to set up a Blue Destiny page, be my guest. More Gundam, the better. But it should also be in the right places.
I don't agree with that. Being game original unit doesn't mean they aren't uncanon MS. If we got to remove them, it would be more make sense to creat new article for whole RX-79 model. L-Zwei 07:12, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of Blue Destiny Units 

message: I have added RX-78-7 and RX-78-8 which appeared in MSV and M-MSV.
I know that RX-78-8 never have a picture but RX-78-7, FA-78-3 and FHA-78-3 should have.
However, I cannot find decent quality pictures for these units.
If anyone have them, please upload and modify the post.
MAHQ.net got some picture, but it is not very clear.
http://www.mahq.net/mecha/gundam/mscollection/rx-78-7.htm
Thank you
MythSearcher 08:02, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  RX-78-7 

message: From what basis is there an 8th Gundam? I looked through MAHQ.net's MSV and M-MSV sections and found nothing on it.
:Try reading the original MSV, there are no picture of it but it is said to have been planned after the 7th Gundam. However, even 7th is incomplete and therefore no further development is continued. So it is the legendary 8th Gundam that never, and never will appear in any of the series.
:http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E3%82%AC%E3%83%B3%E3%83%80%E3%83%A0_(%E6%9E%B6%E7%A9%BA%E3%81%AE%E5%85%B5%E5%99%A8)
:In MSV,(not M-MSV)
:放映当時はガンダムは映像に現れた1機しか存在しないという設定であったが、後に小説版『機動戦士ガンダム』においてアムロの搭乗したガンダムは2号機という設定が生まれ、みのり書房発行の雑誌「OUT」別冊『宇宙駆ける戦士たち GUNDAM CENTURY』にてさらにその設定は発展した。そして『モビルスーツバリエーション』 (MSV) の誕生によりアニメ準備稿からプロトタイプガンダム（1号機）が、小説版からG-3ガンダム（3号機）が生まれ、さらに全部で8機が製造されたという設定になった。RX-78という型式番号の後の数字には機体の仕様（バージョン）の意味が持たされたが、後に機体の製造番号の意味に変更され、RX-78-2ならば、RX-78シリーズの2番目に製造された機体という意味となった。G-3ガンダム以降の機体はMSVではRX-78初期試作型（一説にRX-78-2）の4-8号機という文字のみの設定であったが、バンダイ出版発行の雑誌「SDクラブ」で連載された『大河原邦男コレクション』 (M-MSV) にて4-7号機が再設定され、独自の型式番号が与えられている。
:We can see that there is a documented official saying about having RX-78-8. However, no further settings are given.
:MythSearcher 02:59, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  RX-78-8? 

message: Monthly Bandai Making Journal, July 1988, we have some sales figure.
:Scale     Model                  price    Units sold
-----1980
:1/144    Gundam                 300yen   5850k
:1/100    Gundam                 700yen   3060k
-----1981
:1/60     Gundam                2000yen    620k
:1/144    B‧Gundam(韓國製)      300yen    280k
:1/100    B‧Gundam(韓國製)      700yen     50k
:1/72     Mechanic Gundam       2500yen    250k
-----1982
:1/100    Realtype Gundam        700yen    610k
I have numbers for other models, too. MythSearchertalk 04:32, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Got some cool figures 

message: Just kidding, I just add trimmed-down info of other variants back to article. Hope it isn't too crufty now. I think few of them shall be expand more, like Alex which is a center mech of 0080 OVA. L-Zwei 13:39, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add everything back! 

message: The new page name is slightly misleading. I base this on two grounds. 
# An article titled "Gundam (mobile suit)" seems to me like the midpoint between the main Gundam article and articles such as those dealing with each 'series' of Gundams on their own (Universal Century Gundam suits, After Colony Gundam suits,... etc).
# The article as it stands is solely about the RX-78 line of suits, which is one type of Gundam amongst many types of Gundams.
I'd like to suggest moving this article to a title that better reflects the contents of this article... something along the lines of RX-78 Gundam. I'm incredibly cautious about doing such a move without other's thoughs, considering the recent AfD of Doom and subsequent overhaul to a far superior article. So this is just me getting a though out in the air.
Ideas? Comments? -- saberwyn 08:14, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree on moving it to another name, but not RX-78 Gundam(Which this page was moved from) per the discussion in WP:GUNDAM.  Maybe there should be a page called Gundam type mobile suits made, or this page renamed to Gundam (RX-78 series) or Gundam (Mobile Suit Gundam). either way, since this name is used in so many places, it is very hard to have a name that is short and not confusing...  Maybe discussing in the WP:GUNDAM talk page will be better.  MythSearchertalk 03:43, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request pagemove 

message: I believe the people asking for deletion or change of this article are anomaly to the sanity. this mobile suit is the main design that has been followed to create and design new mobile suits. this is the SOURCE. this is the ORIGIN of the "ICON". this is not a series of  RX-78 etc. This is THE Quintessential mobile suit.
as for discussion why not remove bible and other religous stuff on wiki or you guys may also delete jesus page saying that " hey most people have heard the story anyhow...." i mean , get a life. go to a shrink. get some morals, get a check up. ( in the movie "Day after tomorrow" the guy saved the old bible book just because it was a record, a record of human essence. that guy had a good soul ) if he was a deletionist, bible would have been the first to go in the fire. 
Danraz 06:20, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  keep the name 

message: most of the rx-78 verients do have some impact on the franchise even though they never appear  in animated form. the 7th gundam inspired the rx-78 gp03 shown on 0083 while a unit in gundam sentinal is also simular to the look of this gundam.Jeffpiatt 18:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that saying that the 7th Gundam inspired GP-03 is conjecture, not fact.  As for the Gundam Sentinel thing, that's also conjecture.  To a non-fan, most of the variants have no merit.  Since Wikipedia is being held to a higher standard than a fansite, there needs to be an emphasis on the things that do have merit, especially in real life. Maikeru 07:02, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Although the 7th Gundam was speculated to be the base design of [[MSA-0011 S Gundam#MSA-0011[Bst] S Gundam Booster Unit Type Plan 303E "Deep Striker"|S Gundam Plan 303E]] Deep Striker, it is not the case since the latter was published before RX-78-7 design.  The book (Gundam Wars III)with Plan 303E in it was published in 1988, which is same time as CCA and thus predate Kunio Okawara's MS Collection(1989~1990).  On the other hand, this is much more real life linkage between the units, I suggest adding them.  It is not information on a fansite, it is published material just fresh out of the oven.  Since the Gundam Fix Figuration #0034 GP03S Weapon System just released in Japan, a lot of magazines were digging out these historical stuff. MythSearchertalk 08:12, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  info on varients 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Gundam firefighting.jpg

message: === Mitsubishi Heavy Industries ===
As part of MHI Jobcon 2005 (Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Job Convention 2005), a recruiting event of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd, seminars were held in six Japanese cities.  The topic of these seminars was "Mobile Suit Gundam Development Story"; which indicated the requirements and processes that Mitsubishi would have to implement if the company had been required to build an RX-78 mobile suit. 
The source on this is dead, and I'm guessing it was a MHI press release anyway. Do we have a source covering this event, instead of MHI promoting it themselves? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 00:17, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pop culture section issues

message: As part of MHI Jobcon 2005 (Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Job Convention 2005), a recruiting event of Mitsubishi Heavy Industries Ltd, seminars were held in six Japanese cities.  The topic of these seminars was "Mobile Suit Gundam Development Story"; which indicated the requirements and processes that Mitsubishi would have to implement if the company had been required to build an RX-78 mobile suit. 
The source on this is dead, and I'm guessing it was a MHI press release anyway. Do we have a source covering this event, instead of MHI promoting it themselves? - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 00:17, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mitsubishi Heavy Industries 

message: The RX-78-2 Gundam has been the featured mobile suit in two of the Gundam Evolve short films.  The first Evolve short "RX-78-2 Gundam" featured it in a limited capacity, instead focusing on its pilot Amuro Ray, who reminisced about the previous battles he had gone through while waiting to sortie.  The second short film to feature the Gundam is the 15th installment of the Evolve series, a remake of the episode "Newtype Challia Bull" from the original series.  Instead of basing the CGI models on the original line art from the series, the Gundam was completely redesigned to fit a more modernized aesthetic.  The other main mobile weapons in the short — the GM, Guncannon, and Challia Bull's Braw Bro — were also redesigned to a considerable degree.
I have no idea where to put this, but it doesn't belong in the pop culture section, as it's a Sunrise Gundam production. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 00:23, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gundam Evolve 

message: According to Katoki Hajime commenting the poles from Newtype (magazine), as quoted in Newtype magazine serialized Seed Club 4 koma short comic series, as of 26th August, 2005, the MG RX-78-2 Gundam Ver. 1.5 ranked TOP1 in Gundam Traditional MG because it is the best valued model if one wants to buy the original Gundam; and the MG RX-78-5 Gundam G05 ranked TOP1 in Easiest to build MG since its appearance in various games and Gundam Ace magazine, a lot of people liked the unit and although the design looks like the original Gundam, it does not carry the old stinkiness(古臭) feeling and is modeled specially for new model builders, gaining it fame in an easy building model kit category.Seed Club 4 coma, page 78 & 79
This is horribly confusingly written; I'm having trouble figuring out what the factual claim is. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire - past ops) 00:32, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Model Sales

message: While running the date delinker script, I noticed that this article is using three competing date format. The first two are the DMY format and the MDY format. The third is the ISO format, which should be converted to one of the other two. DMY and ISO date format is mostly used in the references as MDY format is used in the body of the article. WP:DATE does state that the date format in the article should be consistent through the article between DMY or MDY. I'll have to do a bit of checking to see which format was used by the articles first significant contributor. I'll also note that most other Gundam related articles use the MDY format. However, the importance of consistency with the other sub-articles isn't as pertinent as it is between the top level articles. See Talk:Gundam#Date formats for previous discussion on this topic. —Farix (t | c) 03:39, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at this edit, it appears that I'm mostly responsible for the trifecta of date formats. There were no other dates in the article previous to my edit. —Farix (t | c) 03:47, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date formats 

message: *Move to Gundam (fictional robot). This is the one name that seems to have general support above. Andrewa (talk) 18:07, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternative proposal

message: Gundam the robot is notable - but we don't need two articles about this. Fanwikis can have dozen articles about all the different gundam subtypes, but there is no evidence they are actually notable as separately. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:43, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Klbrain (talk) 10:57, 9 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge from [[Gundam Mk-II]]