Talk:Kilkenny

message: The only Ballylinch I know is the studfarm that forms part of Mt.Juliet Estate.  If so it is over 10kms from Kilkenny City and is not relevant to this article.  I've removed this entry as its incorrect and also seems to be a verbatim copy of content on another site. --MickMac 10:23, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ballylinch Estate

message: Just a thought - is Beamish stout not brewed in Kilkenny also?
Zoney 23:51, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Beamish

message: I've moved sport to County Kilkenny as it refers to county Kilkenny. CGorman 22:20, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sport 

message: Sorry guys, but Kilkenny is just a town.
:Read this  currently law of the state, in particular:
::(7) This section is without prejudice to the continued use of the description city in relation to Kilkenny, to the extent that that description was used before the establishment day and is not otherwise inconsistent with this Act.
:Whilst Kilkenny does not have the status of city for administrative purposes, it may none the less be discribed as a city. Djegan 17:43, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  City 

message: A discussion at talk:cities in Ireland which effects Kilkenny on these pages. Comments welcome. Djegan 17:58, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cities in Ireland

message: A formal discussion is not an absolute requirement on a merger proposal, indeed a proposal is not required to merge, but a consensus is ideal in controversial cases. Theirfore I say move forward and merge The Marble City directly in without discussion and use it as a redirect as it is not going to be controversial. A clear cut case for merger without discussion. Djegan 23:31, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree Hughsheehy 15:15, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger

message: Fluffy?!
mintchocolate 07:55, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Music

message: A native from your town, William Byrnes started my hometown Burnsville. He emigrated in mid-1800s. With a town the size of less than 10,000 people someone there has to know something about him or his kin. Just looking for information, please post on my talk page or on the Burnsville talk page. Funny though our town is about 60,000 strong now compared to the place he left for America :) Albeit no marble to be had. .:DavuMaya:. 20:34, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help 

message: *Mean temperature in degrees C. for Kilkenny (met eireann) v (wiki)
*Year		May	  Jun	 Jul 	  Aug	    Sep 	
*Met E		10.3    13.3	 15.2	  14.7	    12.6	 	
*Wiki          12.0    14.5   18.0     18.5      15.0
*Sarah777 (talk) 22:48, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Climate stats in the article are wrong

message: What is this supposed to mean?
:Kilkenny, spanning the river Nore, is the only city in the Ireland that is not tidal. 
I'm totally baffled, unless it's saying that it's the only city in Ireland that is not on the coast. Unschool (talk) 01:23, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: All the other cities in Ireland, even Limerick which is 50 miles from open sea, have ocean tides that cause a rise and fall in their rivers. Kilkenny is above the influence of the tides. It is a bit of a trainspotting point I grant you! Sarah777 (talk) 02:20, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: , Not at all.  Given the size of the island, that makes perfect sense.  Thanks! Unschool (talk) 21:45, 18 January 2008 (UTC)

text: There's also the issue that this phrase describes Kilkenny as a city when it's not.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.198.25.155 (talk) 17:59, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tidal? 

message: *High Street
*James Street
*Kieran Street
*Rose Inn Street
*The Parade
*Archer's Street
*Patrick Street - Upper & Lower
*Ormonde Road
*Collier's Lane
*The Butter Slip
*Irish Town
*Dean Street
*The Castle Gardens
*The Castle Road
*The Quay
*New Street
*Michael Street
*John Street
*Removed this section also. What is the point? They don't link to articles. Imagine the Dublin article including a list like this? Or London!! Sarah777 (talk) 03:09, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: List of streets

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thread_title:  Peerreview 

message: I have reveted changes by User:Esteban2008() and User:195.212.29.83() which have changed kilkenny status from city to town. For more on the subject see Talk:Cities in Ireland. I a not totally against such a change but no discussion has taken place and User:Esteban2008(Contributions) has changed Kilkenny and Waterford to town status in the 4 edits that he/she has made, I believe more discussion is needed.
The removal of the line  by User:Esteban2008
: This was recently given a legislative basis by Section 10(7) of the Local Government Act 2001,which allows for "the continued use of the description city", although it does not have a city council like the other Irish cities, but rather a borough council instead. 
does not help the reader understand why kilkenny might or might not be a City, also the addition of line 
: Kilkenny is not considered a city under full Irish law.  
is not referenced to anything.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mrchris (talk • contribs) 14:53, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  City Status. 

message: According to this BBC article the death rate in Kilkenny due to the Black Death could have been 100% - not sure if that's true but if so, definitely worth mentioning 
--213.94.229.173 (talk) 11:48, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black Death 

message: Practically nothing in the "12th century" has anything to do with Kilkenny (including the image). I propose deleting this section, and perhaps placing the image in a more suitable article (if it isn't there already). Hohenloh  +   16:27, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  12th century 

message: Following Wikipedia:WikiProject_Cities/Guideline#History and Wikipedia:UKCITIES#History. Moved all Kilkenny#History sections to new article History of Kilkenny. Both this section and History of Kilkenny need better summarys. Mrchris (talk) 03:26, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved [[Kilkenny#History]] to new article [[History of Kilkenny]] 

message: I think that maybe in uses like "Kilkenny is in a sheltered location, over 60 kilometres (37 mi) inland" are ok to have as just normal miles or kilometres.	
But, when writing "Nearby larger cities include Waterford 45 kilometres (28 mi) south-southeast, Limerick 93 kilometres (58 mi) west and Dublin 101 kilometres (63 mi) northeast" shouldn't the figure in road miles ie. Dublin 80 miles from Kilkenny by road? --89.100.72.226 (talk) 15:49, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Why? Modern road signage usually gives in kilometres only. RashersTierney (talk) 16:11, 6 January 2011 (UTC)

text: I am confused by your terminology: when you talk of road miles, do you mean, perhaps, miles travelled by road, as distinct from the shorter distance, miles as the crow flies? I don't know the term road miles and at first I thought you might be referring to Irish miles instead of statute miles or something. — O'Dea 13:58, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The question of citing distances by road or by air was discussed  before without proper resolution, so I have asked for guidance from the Help Desk. See also my discussion of the question, below. — O'Dea 04:43, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Road Miles or not

message: Following reflection and investigation, I believe User:89.100.72.226 employs the term normal miles to indicate staight-line distances (as the crow flies) and road miles to mean distances travelled on winding roads, as measured by a car's odometer.
I took the distances he cited and checked them on Google Maps using both the straight-line measuring tool (normal miles), and its driving directions tool (road miles). I confirmed that Kilkenny is in fact "over 60km" (i.e. 66 km) from the coast at Curracloe, Wexford—in a straight line. I confirmed the other straight-line distances cited too, to Waterford (45 km), Dublin (101 km), and Limerick (93 km). The odometer distances I found using Google's driving directions tool were, Waterford 49 km (4 km longer by road miles), Dublin 124 km (23 km longer by road miles), and by far the largest deviation, Limerick 128 km, (35 km longer by road miles). The latter deviation for Limerick is so great because Google suggests driving 40 km north on the N7 to the M7, before turning west, so the driven route is very indirect, though presumably faster. Selecting Google's suggestion for a walking route to Limerick, which is more direct using minor roads, the distance to Limerick by foot is 107 km (14 km longer by road miles).
 Distances from city of Kilkenny (kilometres)
    	As crow flies	By car	Walking	Difference
Waterford	45           	49    	–      	4
Dublin   	101          	124   	–      	23
Limerick 	93           	128   	107    	35, or 14
No-one is surprised that the crow enjoys a shorter route than the driver or walker, but the question is, what is the professional geographer's convention when citing distances between cities for an encyclopaedia? Wikipedia is not a road atlas, so why would it cite distances by road? Perhaps Wikipedia has a stated policy on this question buried away somewhere in its Help section. — O'Dea 04:12, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Direct and indirect distances from Kilkenny ("road miles")

message: I'd appreciate it if you could put a link to www.kilkennyshopping.com on the Kilkenny Wikipedia page please.
Many thanks
86.45.25.171 (talk) 15:02, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Waste of time. It would almost certainly be removed as WP:LINKSPAM. RashersTierney (talk) 21:20, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for link on Kilkenny Wikipedia page 

message: I'm confused by the sentence  "The borough has a population of 8,661, however the majority of the population live outside the borough boundary". Is the borough not the city? If so, then the borough contains the city's population. How then can the majority of the population live outside the borough? If the borough does not define the geographic limit of the city, then what does? Laurel Lodged (talk) 09:29, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Borough vs city 

message: Does anybody know when the description "marble city" was first given to Kilkenny, and by whom? 93.107.2.255 (talk) 21:22, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology of "marble city"?

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message: The section on bridges needs some info about the Central Access Scheme and the expected completion date of the bridge. --AHert (talk) 11:18, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bridges →CAS 

message: Added a snippet in history about the Kyteler witch trials, with citations. Considering adding a section on Kilkenny lore and legends. Thoughts?  Thanks! ME.Heffernan (talk) 03:32, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kyteler Trials 

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message: I feel this article is “missing a trick” by not mentioning the fact that Kilkenny punches *way* above its weight for an Irish provincial town in the area of excellent restaurants.
Also - I think I remember Kilkenny making it into Condé Nest “Traveller” list “Top Ten Friendliest Places in the World.” A few years back.
 Ethnicolor (talk) 20:55, 28 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kilkenny tourist attractions - dining out