Talk:Yolande Fox

message: Why did Miss Betbeze refuse?  Amazon has a picture of be Miss Betbeze  in a swimsuit and the Miss America banner:
http://www.amazon.com/Photo-America-Yolande-Betbeze-Swing/dp/B0075XEE8O/ref=sr_1_cc_1?s=aps&ie=UTF8&qid=1360578539&sr=1-1-catcorr&keywords=yolande+fox.
This site (http://dst121.blogspot.com/2009/12/this-festive-season-give-yourself-two.html) seems to indicate that she was willing to wear a swimsuit in the competition but not in publicity photographs.
This is explicit on the Miss America site: " Having spent the previous years of her life in convent schooling, posing in a swimsuit was heretofore unheard of for Yolande. After winning the Miss America title, Yolande declared, "I'm an opera singer, not a pin-up!" and refused posing in a bathing suit again." (http://www.missamerica.org/our-miss-americas/1950/1951.aspx)
The Smithsonian Internet site gives a bit different -- but not complete nor necessarily contradictory -- story:
" In 1969, she recalled to the Washington Post that she had been too much of a nonconformist to do the bidding of the pageant's sponsors. "There was nothing but trouble from the minute that crown touched my head," she said. For one thing, she declined to sign the standard contract that committed winners to a series of promotional appearances. And one of her first acts was to inform the Catalina bathing suit company that she would not appear in a swimsuit in public unless she were going swimming. Spurned, Catalina broke with the Miss America Pageant and started Miss Universe." (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/people-places/object-jan06.html) 202.179.19.15 (talk) 10:48, 11 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw a PBS show a few years back, and my impression is that she wore a swimsuit during the swimsuit phase of the actual competition, but after she won, she was not enthused by several aspects of what was expected of her during the year of her reign, constant swimsuit-posing being one of them.  Ultimately, she did not really see herself as a model, but had a strong self-identity based on her achievements in other fields... AnonMoos (talk) 07:07, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  confusing re swimsuit 

message: I recall seeing in an almanac that Yolande's Miss America title was the first "postdated" one; i.e., pageant in year N but title is for year N+1.  It explains that because of this change, there is no Miss America 1950.  I will be changing the article to refer to the pageant of 1950, not 1951.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.20 (talk) 15:04, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  change of Miss America title to postdated 

message: *This article has been classified as a start due to its level of detail. Capitalistroadster (talk) 04:04, 26 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Reclassified as a start

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