Talk:Guitar Hero II

message: On the PS2 version of Guitar Hero 2, the only way to view the high score list for a song is to complete the song in Quick Play mode.  This can be very annoying, especially on very long songs or songs that you can't consistently beat.  Is this different on any of the other versions?  67.64.157.154 20:45, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Difficulty in Viewing High Score List - Same between versions?

message: Does anyone else think that the changes between them should be noted?  I can't remember them all but a few do come to mind besides the song list.  
Axel Steel has an altered costume that features a mustache in 360.
There are advertisements for Vault all over the game including bottles in the Red Octane arena and banners to the sides of the stage at the Warped Tour.
I'm sure there are more changes but those are what come to mind.  Are they noteworthy enough to include in the page?
--TopherRocks 07:54, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes between ps2/360

message: I added some news I found earlier to the XBox 360 dl tracks. I'm not sure if this has been discussed already. Demoman87 04:28, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like it's been erased... An explanation would be nice :D Demoman87 18:21, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Xbox 360 downloadable tracks leak

message: Do we really need two song lists? I think that one would be enough. 76.24.76.234 19:04, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If it was as simple as noting that the 360 has one extra song in each set, sure, but since many songs have been moved between sets, there's no easy way to describe the set list for both the PS2 and 360 version with a single list. --Masem 19:16, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Two song lists

message: I'm almost certain that Wii and DS versions of this game were rumors only.
Ultim87 02:55, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They are not rumors, they were confirmed in Gamespot inverviews. Doshindude 20:33, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wii and DS Guitar Heroes have been confirmed, but we have no info on the DS version and the Wii Version is really Guitar Hero III
Ultim87 02:58, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can we just eliminate this section? These posts are more than a year old, and both Guitar Hero III for the Wii and Guitar Hero: On Tour have since been released.JIMfoamy1 (talk) 20:26, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Wii/DS

message: Should this article make reference to the popularity of custom song creation using a modded PS2 and what not?  The site , [www.scorehero.com], that describes exactly how to add the custom games is sponsored by Harmonix.. which indicates to me that they support it in some capacity.. might be worth a mention.  --Energyst 04:13, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We would need mention from independent reliable sources to add that. -- Kesh 04:30, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Joystiq and 1up both mention it. http://www.joystiq.com/2007/01/23/play-custom-songs-on-hacked-guitar-hero-ii/ At the time I'm posting this, 1up is down, so I can't provide a link to their site, but that's the one to Joystiq. -- Mellesime 04:44, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That Joystiq ref looks pretty small. It might be considered too trivial to be a good source.--Drat (Talk) 09:28, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Custom songs

message: Carry On Wayward Son  and   Shout at the Devil  are incorrectly placed in the 360 list.  They should be reversed.  "Shout" is the encore of the first group, not "Carry".
:This has been now fixed by Livewire. Thanks for your point! ~Iceshark7 21:28, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  There is an Xbox 360 song list error 

message: I recommend that we split the table; keep the review scores in one or two separate tables (by platform) but awards should be summarized in a two-column list; as it is, it's starting to cause funny rendering problems.    (Unfortunately I don't see any recommended practice on what review tables should be like, and many of the FAs for computer games DON'T have tables...maybe we want to summarize a lot here...) --Masem 06:01, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  reception/awards table out of hand 

message: but i tried my guitar hero 2 and it diddnt work and i tried my friends guitar hero and it diddnt work, but it plays on his 360. any ideas? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.195.180.103 (talk • contribs).
:You might want to try a forum, such as GameFAQS or something. --Garfunkle20 22:12, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  maybe its my xbox? 

message: This statement was previously written in the game's infancy, and it is appropriate to write it as a speculative possibility and not a guarantee of the game's future downloadable content quantity ranking. The company has yet to act on their now outdated statement, and I feel it should be written in this manner. Three song packs is light years away from being the "most" content by any standard. Numerous other games' DLC out ranks the game in file size, quality, cost, or quantity.  J.reed 02:14, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Downloadable Content 

message: This isn't the first place I've seen it claimed that both players must simultaneously engage in star power for it to work.  In general, I haven't found this to be necessary.  Further, my brother owns the game (X360) and has one broken controller (works except can't deploy star power); however, in playing co-op with him, so long as the good controller deploys star power, it always works.  Any thoughts? Topher0128
:The broken controller must always have the tilt sensor in the up position because you absolutely must engage at the same time. If one person tries to release star power and the other doesn't, a message will start blinking, informing one of the players he is not engaging star power. Y2kcrazyjoker4 18:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Co-Op Star Power 

message: I think showing what the game's controllers look like would add a lot to this article.  Can anyone provide free images of both the cherry red Gibson SG guitar and the white Gibson X-Plorer guitar? I could provide a photo of the second, but the guitar is covered with stickers and is not preferrable for showing what the guitar looks like. Y2kcrazyjoker4 18:07, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, we got a picture of the cherry red Gibson SG controller. Can anyone do the same for their X-Plorer controller? Y2kcrazyjoker4 20:42, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Free images of the 2 guitar controllers

message: Does anyone have any idea where to get some citations for the information in the career section per the GA review? The official site had a list of a characters, but I can't find a list of venues anywhere honestly.
:http://www.fullspectrumottawa.com/exposure/exposure_guitar_hero_ii_song_list.php - Found a short list of the venues with descriptions of their locations. Not sure if applicable for the entire information found from the Career section, but I added the reference anyway. ~Iceshark7 11:46, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Career Citations 

message: What happened to the set list? That was a great feature of this article. GH1 still it's set list up!
For example: 
Main setlist
1. Opening Licks
    * "I Love Rock 'n' Roll" – Joan Jett & the Blackhearts
    * "I Wanna Be Sedated" – The Ramones
    * "Thunder Kiss '65" – White Zombie
    * "Smoke on the Water" – Deep Purple
    * "Infected" – Bad Religion
2. Axe-Grinders
    * "Iron Man" – Black Sabbath
    * "More Than a Feeling" – Boston
    * "You Got Another Thing Comin'" – Judas Priest
  ETC....
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.73.204.62 (talk • contribs).
:The list has just been moved to a different article to trim the size (see the GA review above).  You can find it at List of songs in Guitar Hero II. --Masem 01:28, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Set List? 

message: Would anyone like to mention the set of stickers that accompanies the guitar/game bundle which can be used to customize the guitar controller? Discgolfrules 17:49, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why is that notable or important? Y2kcrazyjoker4 21:00, 5 August 2007 (UTC)

text: If you have an image of a set of stickers, then adding the image into the article is definitely not bad. The article is in need of images, and if better ones pop up, old ones can be removed. It doesn't need to be notable because it is related to Guitar Hero II, and the stickers are a big part on decorating the guitar. (Besides, how many people even knows that you get a free set of stickers with the package?) ~Iceshark7 10:08, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree strongly with this.  I cannot remember a GHII review that even mentions the stickers, and the stickers themselves have no effect on gameplay, so it does not need an image of the stickers.  Maybe you can include a very brief note on this in the guitar section, but I wouldn't not put anymore than a part of a sentence towards the stickers.--Masem 11:57, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Doesn't need to be notable? That would violate Wikipedia's policy on the subject (WP:Notable). Just because something is relevant to the article doesn't necessarily make it worth including in the article. Furthermore, adding a picture of the stickers for decorative purposes just because the article lacks pictures is also against Wikipedia's policy on pictures. Y2kcrazyjoker4 12:23, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So, can we add a short sentence explaining that the bundle comes with stickers which users can use to decorate their controller to the article? I'm also not in favor of adding pictures of the stickers (due to wikipedia's policies,) but I believe they deserve at least a sentence. Discgolfrules 23:08, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure.. but I'm almost thinking now that that statement might stand better on the main Guitar Hero (series) page regarding the special controllers, since stickers came with GH1 too.  Just make sure you have a reliable source that states that stickers are included (I don't recall any of the major reviews having these, but that's not to say it's not in one of them.) --Masem 23:26, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stickers 

message: As the song list has been out of the article, and so far seems to be working fine (in addition to the fact that a discussion was done over at the WP:CVG on soundtracks for music/rhythm games being in separate articles, the consensus being that this is the best way), we should select a few representative songs from that list to describe the type of music in the game.  Obviously, we have to be very selective, 3, no more than 4 examples, and maybe 3 bonus songs.  We should not choose these because we feel they're best, but only that other sources have noted them.  Thus, I'm suggesting the following:
* Free Bird, because duh (nearly every review says it's there), good example of classic rock
* Hanger 18, noted for difficulty, example of thrash metal
* Psychobilly Freakout, noted for difficulty, alternative song
* Tonight I'm Going to Rock You Tonight, also mentioned in some reviews, "represtantive" of 70s metal
* Jordan (I could have sworn that there was a good article saying how Buckethead didn't think anyone would be able to beat this on Expert, which is why he helped get it in the game)
* Trogdor as most reviews note the oddity of the extra song lists
Just note that any suggested song should be one called out by a review as being in the game. --Masem 15:45, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have any reviews to quote, but maybe we should mention John the Fisherman as the first major-artist master track in the GH series?  Rdfox 76 16:08, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps more mainstream, well-known songs should also be mentioned, like "Message in a Bottle", "Sweet Child o' Mine", and "Carry On Wayward Son", etc? Y2kcrazyjoker4 18:18, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion, I think that there isn't a huge gap between the popular songs mentioned, and if there is, those wouldn't fit just into 3-4 examples. I'm not counting in the Bonus Songs of course, and I feel that if a person really wants to take a sneak peek of the songs int he game, he would click List of songs in Guitar Hero II anyway. ~Iceshark7 19:19, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Why don't we just use some of the songs listed on the back of the game's case/box? Y2kcrazyjoker4 13:18, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  In lieu of the song list... 

message: If you don't have List of songs in Guitar Hero II in your watchlists, you may be unaware that someone has suggested the list be deleted (this stems from a discussion in WP:CVG about cars in video games being listcruft).  If you have a strong feeling towards either keeping or deleting this, you may want to make your voice known over there. --Masem 17:10, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Note: List of songs is up for AFD 

message: Tried to restore lost content. Will look againafter a break.  Cheers, :) Dlohcierekim  23:02, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mass removals 

message: Should the GH songlists be merged to a single article?  Please see discussion here. --MASEM 20:40, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The main article and its talk page no longer exists. The result was to keep the song lists separate and delete List of songs in Guitar Hero games (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of songs in Guitar Hero games). Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 06:50, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should song lists be merged to single article? 

message: I completed Easy career two days ago and did not unlock this feature;  however, I beat the game's career mode on Medium and I unlocked Pro-Face Off Mode.  I am on a PS2.  I suggest that the article be changed to reflect facts rather than game guide typos.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.148.241.11 (talk) 04:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unlock Pro Face-Off 

message: Has anyone else noticed the stones memorabilia in the Practice Room? There's a Poster of Their Satanic Majesties Request, as well as Let it Bleed in a milk crate on the floor. Also, there's a poster of another Stones album which I could not identify. Anyone have any ideas behind this?67.162.232.65 03:02, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Practice Room 

message: LaraLove (Talk | contribs) has removed the of ScoreHero.com external link both on the main Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock article and on Guitar Hero II article. I've posted this same comment on the Guitar Hero III: Legends of Rock talk page. Anyone here (besides me) disagree with this? lightsup55 04:01, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of ScoreHero.com external link? 

message: I have read through the article just now, and have edited it rather heavily in the past. I think that the article passed GA well and is ready to become an FA. What are people's thoughts on this before I rush too quickly into posting it at WP:FAC? --tennisman 16:26, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I feel it's ready -- However I did just notice that a few references (#1 and #2 for example, but not all) are not consistent, but those should be easily fixed; also we should wikilink the date= field in all the citation templates (the accessdate= does not need to be wikilinked, however).  But if anything else comes up, it will be apparent in the FA commentary and can be fixed. --MASEM 16:40, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've got some time now so I'm going to fix those and post it at WP:FAC. --tennisman 23:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay, never mind the fixing...I'm not sure I know what you mean, looks like all of the dates are linked. And I'm not sure what you mean by "references are not consistent", so I'm going to leave those as they are. --tennisman 23:33, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I guess someone understood...M3tal H3ad went through and linked all of the dates. --tennisman 16:12, 16 November 2007 (UTC)

text: For the "cite web" templates (which I think 99% if not all of them at) these should have the following fields filled in: url, title, accessdate, and publisher.  "date" (when work was published to web) should be provided if given, but some web resources lack accurate ones.  If the author of the work is known, then also "first"/"last" should be used (in case of a real, single author) or "author" for a grouping of authors.  Going over the list, most of these are close but just missing one of the 4 required; others look like they can include other parameters, these include refs: 1, 8, 9, 11, 15, 22, 66 and 72.  Not a whole lot, and should be easy fixes. --MASEM 16:20, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA-level? 

message: Hi,
I translated part of this article for the Catalan wikipedia ca:Guitar Hero II, and I'd like a link to be placed on the English page, which I would do if it weren't protected. --Bewtros (talk) 03:26, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The page is only semi-protected, so you can edit it. However, I've added the link for you, anyway. --GentlemanGhost (talk) 03:29, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  please add Catalan link 

message: In the South Park episode Guitar Queer-o, Guitar Hero II is used (this can be seen by the songs featured and the fact that it is played on an Xbox 360.) Should we mention it here?JIMfoamy1 (talk) 20:32, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that has more to do with the general series as a whole, even though they use Guitar Hero II. Spinach Monster (talk) 04:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guitar Queer-o? 

message: If I made a list of the button tabs for the songs on Guitar Hero II, would that be deleted? Spinach Monster (talk) 18:51, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not appropriate for Wikipedia (that's game guide material) but it could be placed on Gamefaqs if you wanted to. --MASEM 19:00, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They have a wiki? It's disappointing that it could not be put here, but I will submit to the policy. Spinach Monster (talk) 19:17, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Guitar Hero II Tabs

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