Talk:Palmerston North

message: The mention here of "lakes" may be a bit OTT, even the Council refer to it as a Joanna Mcdougall duck pond:). Should there be mention of the i site? What about discussion of the recent redevelopment and focus on community safety?Nzlbob23 (talk) 08:55, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The Square

message: This sentence (The city is home to more than 70 major educational and research institutions, including New Zealand's fastest expanding university, Massey; the Massey University Sport and Recreation Institute (situated at Massey University campus, Turitea); UCOL - Universal College of Learning and Linton Military Camp.) is a bit laboured and does not quite make sense. I'm guessing it wants to cover the key institutions in the city? Nzlbob23 (talk) 08:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Economy

message: Can people source whether pammy is 11th largest or 6th largest. I am getting mixed results all over the internet. 05:52, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  City 

message: Where does the figure of 'power for 90,000 homes' come from? Seems somewhat high given the population of the city is 72,600. According to http://www.trustpower.co.nz/Content/Generation/WindFarms/Tararua.aspx the wind farm generates 67.98MW (30,000 homes). Adrian.baker 02:03, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate 

message: I think the 'promotional' tone of this section is somewhat excessive and should be toned down. Factually it's fine, but it perhaps shouldn't read like a tourist guide: "beautiful and peaceful with an abundance of stunning old trees", "glorious autumn leaves", "excellent educational faciliaties" (sic), "vibrancy and exciting youth culture", "beautiful parklands...beautiful gardens...stunning display of seasonal cherry blossoms". True or not, the overall effect is of a brochure rather than an encyclopedia article.Adrian.baker 01:41, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Just remove the hyperbolic words.-gadfium 06:20, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I did this a while back.Aaron Lawrence 18:49, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The City 

message: This may sound retarded, but I read somewhere that there is some sort of council incentive for businesses to have 'Z' in their name. This srt of explains why a lot of motels have 'Z's, in some cases up to 3. Anyone know about this? --130.216.191.184 03:27, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Z 

message: This school is listed in the article, and I can find a few references to it on Google, but there's no mention of it at the Ministry of Education website . Has it changed names or closed?-gadfium 05:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: - still open to the best of my knowledge. And it appears on the page you link to as well, between Carncot and Cloverlea. Ziggurat 08:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah. I thought that Palmerston North was part of the name. Not thinking straight tonight.-gadfium 09:14, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

text: This page is to discuss improvements to the Palmerston North article. Your message is not appropriate here. I have also removed your email address to reduce the likelihood of spammers using it.-gadfium 23:03, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Palmerston North Central Normal School

message: There is no need to list every single school in a town. this is not consistent with other locality articles. Michellecrisp (talk) 03:57, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Methinks the list will be returning - from the following discussion it was resolved that most primary and intermediate schools are insufficiently notable for their own article, but will be covered in the article on their locality. dramatic (talk) 02:40, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm a bit behind schedule on implementing this.-gadfium 00:46, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Listing schools

message: There is no real mention of the origin of the settlers of PN in the history section. From what I read here: http://www.geocities.com/scanmanawatu/ they were Scandinavians? This does make sense considering the location of PN and the timing of the settlement of PN (and other details too such as "A township was laid out by J.T. Stewart", who was one of the main guys who encouraged many Scandinavian settlers to come to NZ. If I recall correctly, it was back last year when I was researching up the details of immigration to Norsewood and Dannevirke at Te Papa, so my memory might be sketchy). Mathmo Talk 01:40, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: More pages I've came across: http://www.teara.govt.nz/NewZealanders/NewZealandPeoples/Scandinavians/1/en http://www.angelfire.com/ar/arrolfamily/Jensen.html http://www.teara.govt.nz/1966/M/MonradDitlevGothard/MonradDitlevGothard/en http://www.geocities.com/scandannevirke/ (seems clear enough from many sources the founders of PN were Scandinavians) http://www.norwayheritage.com/articles/templates/norwegian_settl.asp?articleid=18&zoneid=17 Mathmo Talk 02:18, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: I've removed some crime info, since it seems to offer undue weight to one incident, which is not notable: I don't understand why one crime has been singled out.  We could just  as easily mention the Lundy murder, the recent sword attack, or the current spate of arson.  Every town has crime.  (And for the record, I don't live in Palmy).  More general statistics are relevant.  Kauri Gumdigger (talk) 06:13, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a representative incident, and one that triggered further incidents. If we listed every shooting that occured, that would be undue weight. For the most recent incident that I am aware of, see Witnesses sought after shooting(link provided to me by User:Phorm))-gadfium 09:44, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreeing with gadfium, it's a significant event that should be listed/mentioned at least. (owenw) 10:16, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Crime info

message: since a 404 page is the best source, please delete the entire john cleese section 174.21.26.188 (talk) 13:27, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Both the references for that section still appear to work.-gadfium 18:24, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  john cleese 

message: Hi all
I am a bit concerned that the pages have been taken over and dumbed down by the council
These edits were done around June 2009 and yet after the crime section was reduced to the state it is in now after the council admitted they had edited wikipedia, Wikipedia entries slag off Palmerston North, to dumb down the negative aspect of the section we had these goings on :-
It must be said that the figures do indeed show a downward trend up to the end of 2008 but some of these goings on make it sound like the area was still undergoing severe problems from gang violence. I would say that any tourist has the right to be informed, as does anyone wishing to perhaps move to these areas, yet with incidents such as the one where people are being attacked infront of a cafe in broad daylight in a town centre it seems that perhaps the dumbing down has been too great.
I urge members of the NZ wiki to sort it out and police themselves to include a small amount of the back story leading up to the clean up process which seems to be well underway, Mongrel Mob gang headquarters seized & , as those goings on in 2009 which led to the removal of the material seem to have been censorship of the worst kind
thanks
Chaosdruid (talk) 06:21, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  No violence ? people safe ? 

message: I'm adding demographics to articles on the suburbs of Palmerston North. While the exact boundaries of suburbs are not well defined in New Zealand, the statistical areas used by the 2018 census don't always match up very well to the suburbs as given on Google Maps. You can see the statistical areas at . I often find the division of areas by Fire and Emergency seem more logical  but I'm limited to matching the statistical areas to the suburbs.
The suburbs on the west side of the city according to my understanding are Westbrook, Highbury and Awapuni. The statistical areas which obviously correspond to these are Westbrook, Highbury East, Awapuni North and Awapuni South. There's also Park West, which I'm inclined to include in Highbury, and Maraetarata, which I'm inclined to include with Awapuni. Does anyone think Park West and Maraetarata are suburbs in their own right? The tricky one is the statistical area of Pioneer West, which runs north-south on the western side of all three suburbs, but is not as far west as Longburn. I've included it with Westbrook, but I don't feel it's a particularly good fit. To the west of Pioneer West and extending north to include Bunnythorpe is the statistical area of Newbury, which includes some of the area I think most people would call Newbury, but seems to encompass "rural(ish) land on the west and north of the Palmerston North city area". Should I merge the demographics for Pioneer West in with Newbury instead? I welcome some local knowledge, as I don't know Palmy very well (although I have been there in the last month).  as you seem to be local editors.
I expect to have questions about other areas in Palmerston North over the next couple of weeks.-gadfium 04:39, 23 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the feedback. It seems like most of my choices have been reasonably sensible. For the land around Massey University, I have already created Massey University, Palmerston North, and while I understand that's not really considered a suburb, neither I suspect is Linton Military Camp. I've taken it out of the list of suburbs navigation box and the suburb category. I can also change the infobox to say "Settlement" rather then "Suburb". Perhaps a better name for the article would be Massey Farms, which according to https://www.massey.ac.nz/massey/explore/departments/school-agriculture-environment/school-agriculture-environment_home.cfm have eight farms on 2000 hectares, but that is about twice the area of this statistical unit.-gadfium 02:37, 1 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Suburbs