Talk:Tsar Bomba

message: -USSR Bomb bigger than Tsar's Bomb-
A reference exists in Spanish press before 1972, about a 200 MT Nuclear Weapon tested underground in their usual test place, Novaya Zemlya, including images of the cave it built.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.44.88.66 (talk) 18:51, 20 May 2023 (UTC)

message: * https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tsar_Bomba&diff=next&oldid=673573311
This stuff could be reinstated if it can be referenced.
All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 01:35, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Removals

message: I removed the alphanumeric designation from the lede, because I don't see any indications in the text which one of many is correct or official. When adding one, please use a ref from a really reputable source, not just from some internets, which are Chinese whispers.  - üser:Altenmann >t 04:58, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: That as a pretty poor choice for a ref war; googling AN-602 will show hundreds of references to the Tsar.  But I respect your request for a source, and I'll provide one.  Unfortunately I'm far from my books right now, and it will be a couple of weeks before I can get back to them, so hang tight for that reference.  Does it have to be an actual tree product, or will you accept something in google Books?  Hmmmm?  SkoreKeep (talk) 23:38, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alphanumeric designation 

message: According to this article the bomb was manufactured before it was designed?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.150.94.205 (talk) 18:20, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for noticing this. Unfortunately this article is a target of a good deal of vandalism. Both dates were bullshit. Removed. - üser:Altenmann >t 21:53, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date issue 

message: Bomba is not a word. This article should be moved to Tsar Bomb.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.198.18.180 (talk) 07:12, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Incorrect.  It is, of course, Russian transliterated into the Roman alphabet.  In Cyrillic, "Царь-бомба".  Their words (both of them), their language. SkoreKeep (talk) 03:09, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: So when we refer to the bomb we should say "the Tsar Bomba bomb" because "Tsar Bomba" is the proper noun in the sentence.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.103.147.249 (talk) 16:55, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not necessarily. One may treat "bomba" as a loanword, just like we say "German panzers" or 4th Panzer Army. - üser:Altenmann >t 06:13, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: "Panzer" is a proper noun, not a loanword. It is not redundant to say "German Panzer tanks". Why would we use a loanword when we already have a word of our own that means exactly the same thing? We say "President Putin" and not use the Russian word for president. Unless "Bomba" is a proper noun, it should be translated into English.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.59.164.73 (talk) 14:11, 11 May 2016 (UTC)

text: Of course 'Tsar Bomba' is a proper noun both in Russian and in English and it is triple redundant to say "German Panzer tanks" unless you don't know what this means. In any case, your or my opinion is irrelevant; we have to look how it is named in books. And it is called so indeed, among other names. - üser:Altenmann >t 15:30, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Triple redundant, so three redundant words in the expression "German Panzer tanks", top kek.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 178.59.81.92 (talk) 07:46, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: "kek" is also not a word if we still talk in English not videogame-ish. Altenmann provided more than sufficient explanation, I believe that only because "bomba" sounds familiar some try to do unjustified translations here. "Tsar Bomba" is a name as a whole as given by the Soviets, it points to one particular unique object not a type of bombs thus cannot be partially translated - if anybody 5 years later still have doubts. 193.17.174.102 (talk) 20:28, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bomb / Bomba 

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message: User:Altenmann reverted my referenced contribution https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Tsar_Bomba&oldid=751339587 . I have reverted his revert and restored my changes on the grounds that all of the people making the statements were notable at the time, and that the reaction of people in power in the United States and abroad is important to understand how the world reacted to the nuclear test. I would hardly call the prime ministers of Norway, Canada, and the British foreign office "random politicians". After posting this I will leave a message on User_talk:Altenmann so we can discuss it here. :) --Psiĥedelisto (talk) 04:50, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I left a message on User_talk:Altenmann here. --Psiĥedelisto (talk) 04:58, 25 November 2016 (UTC)

text: OK I agree that to desctibe the reaction is important. But the exact rants are not important. - üser:Altenmann >t 16:23, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Great :D I also agree with the current version of the article, I agree that my original version which quoted the senators was not all that important because they don't have the foreign policy power of say, a president or secretary of state. I'll continue searching for statements from them about it in the archives. My latest edit was just some minor grammar cleanup. --Psiĥedelisto (talk) 01:24, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert of referenced international reaction to test removed by [[User:Altenmann]] restored 

message: Comes Max Arosev with this chestnut: "The explosion was hot enough to induce third degree burns at distances of 100 km (62,14 mi). The flash of light was so bright that it was visible at a distance of 1,000 km (621,37 mi), despite cloudy skies. Tsar Bomba caused extensive environmental damage: the ground surface of the island was completely levelled, as were the rocks. Everything in the area was melted and blown away."
I decline on this for several reasons:
1. It is just about, if not entirely, cribbed from the CTBTO website.
2. This sort of over-blown unscientific "gee-whiz" stuff has followed the Tsar around for far too long.  I have never seen any kind of scientific basis for any of these claims, or even an on-the-spot newspaper article, and I think that they're probably simple folklore.  And that goes for the "windows shattered" in Finland, as well. If the effect was so unexpected, so one-of-a-kind, then credentials for each and every one should be able to allow them to stand as facts, or they should be dropped.  
3. The Tsar was done in top secrecy by the politburo, but too many ears in other countries were listening.  In that environment, who was going around measuring "visible at 1000 km"?  How does one compare that to other similar occurrences?  It sounds cool and trendy, but does anyone know of a similar factoid to be able to say, "Yeah, that really was a world buster, compared to (Tunguska, Krakatoa, ???)."?
4.  I would normally give high marks to the ctbto website as reference material, but after reading this squib in the context of "Test that went wrong or caused unforseen damage" I really begin to wonder about whose POV is being expressed here.  "Everything in the area was melted and blown away" is not quite the sort of analysis I'd expect from the world's expert in atomic explosion detection.  Sukhoy Nos (translates as "Dry Nose") was never much of a travel destination in any case.
As a side note, use the CVT script to do your conversions.  I want to know who it was that staked himself out at 621.37 miles in cloudy skies from the epicenter to get that measurement. It will also take care of that European comma, one way or the other. Also check spelling.  Lastly, complete the reference.
If Mr. Arosev insists on using this, then I'm going to insist on a specific reference for each and every claim. Good luck with that.  SkoreKeep (talk) 20:59, 10 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: No response from Mr. Arosev concerning my objections to the content; removing again. SkoreKeep (talk) 14:32, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Cloudy observations of the Tsar

message: This line was seen in the "Test" section: "...flown by Major Andrei Durnovtsev. Taking off from an airfield in the Coca Cola Peninsula, the release plane was accompanied..."
I don't think that the Coca Cola Peninsula is a real place unless I am sorely mistaken here. (Especially given that the Soviets would be unlikely to name a significant geographical feature after a capitalist American soda company)
I think it's supposed to be referring to the Kola Peninsula (where Murmansk is) and is a likely nearby area that also has a military airfield.
Again, if anyone can confirm whether or not a "Coca Cola Peninsula" existed, I'd appreciate it, but I find it highly unlikely to be anything other than The Kola. (I added a note next to the location)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.8.134.46 (talk) 20:00, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: No, there is definitely no Coca Cola Peninsula, and the flight that tested the Tsar definitely flew out of an airbase on the Kola Peninsula. SkoreKeep (talk) 21:38, 7 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coca Cola Peninsula 

message: Until recently the article used the term 'man-made' to mean artificial.  Policy MOS:GNL  'Use gender-neutral language where this can be done with clarity and precision.' 
I propose that the phrase is replaced with an alternative, perhaps 'human-made' or 'artificial'. 
Martinlc (talk) 16:57, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I would personally argue that the "man" in "man-made" does not indicate gender, since the term is not normally read as meaning "not made by a woman." It derives from the much older use of "man" as a gender-neutral label for humans, when the terms for man and woman were respectively wereman and wifman. Bones Jones (talk) 17:42, 9 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree it is not being used as a deliberately gendered indicator.  If no gender is implied then why use a word that seems to imply it?  The logic of the MOS is that another form of words should be used. Martinlc (talk) 12:44, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I took a stab at rewriting it to read: . Thoughts? Mojoworker (talk) 19:27, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  A neat solution.Martinlc (talk) 16:03, 14 January 2018 (UTC)

text: "Man" in "man-made" refers to huMANity.  "men-made" would indicate gender since there isn't more than 1 humanity (that we know of).  Your suggested substitution is more awkward with the sci-fi "human made" vs "[hu]man-made", which is common use and means exactly the same thing without the sci-fi aspect. My current opinion on MOS:GNL is that it is language-breaking. Romance languages, which are the lion's share of languages in Europe is gendered by design.  Obscuring the current modern usage in English with wikipedia-made language rules hinders the message, it doesn't enhance it.  English is already mostly gender neutral compared to romance languages. In the scope of language evolution, new common usage would be required to support MOS:GNL to be "best practices" in this instance. ie The new use of Terrestrial, Terran, Earthling or using parallel usage standards "Person of Earth" (like Person of Color).  Such a change though would be frivolous since the number of contexts in which someone needs to make a distinction about which planet the dominant sentient species [yes I'm assuming dominant sentient species] is from is approximately 0.  Thanks for the thought-provoking editorial suggestion.  If you have more specific information you wish to share, I welcome your elaborations. Zerostatetechnologies (talk) 11:17, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted to something closer to my wording in green agreed upon above. "Man-made" was reinserted by an IP about a year ago, then later changed to "human-made". But adding either to "the most powerful explosive ever detonated", is superfluous. No reader would question who else is building and detonating powerful explosives. Mojoworker (talk) 20:50, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gender neutral language 

message: There is a "See also" link to the article on the Status-6 Oceanic Multipurpose System in the Tsar article.  The evidence for this system appears, in one report by the CIA, to be Russian disinformation.  I propose to delete the link because of its ephermerality and because there is no association between it and the Tsar except for their respective scare factors. SkoreKeep (talk) 18:53, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: The Russian Status-6 Oceanic Multipurpose System 

message: Please take look at the german version (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/AN602). It states that RDS-220 is wrong and AN602 is correct, the reference (1) is:
:S. J. Zaloga: The Kremlin's Nuclear Sword. Smithsonian Institution Press, Washington und London 2002, S. 51–52.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.105.41.117 (talk) 16:32, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The Russian page has a redirect from RDS-220 to the bomb proper since 2008, the first word of the article starting with AN602, a line which translates as: . I don't see why we must choose one between the two. Both are OK I guess. Varxo (talk) 08:09, 7 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  AN602 <-> RDS-220? 

message: Comes 37.131.57.110 changing the size of the fireball (presumed maximum size) from 8 km to 4.6 km in diameter.  Doing a quick search, I find everyone agreeing with the old number (or in some cases 5 km) and I think that probably is a case of some copycatting.  I like the new number better, since the bomb exploded at 3-4 km high and the fireball did not reach the ground, possibly also due to some flattening by shockwave reflection.  I note that captioned on a picture of the fireball is the figure 4.6 km, so, without some Russian expert to contradict it, I'm happy with the change.  However, it would be nice if there was a solid reference for it. 
[Minutes later...] Eh, was I fooled.  The incidence in the picture caption was the change made.  So I have nowhere else found that figure.  Perhaps 37.131.57.110 would like to come forward, then, with a reference. SkoreKeep (talk) 00:42, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reverted and added a reference for 5 miles (8 km) in the text and clarified the wording in the caption (changing "about 8.0 km (5 mi) in diameter" to "about 8.0 km (5 mi) wide at its maximum". Mojoworker (talk) 16:24, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll let it be, but the reference is weak.  Obviously the writer wasn't there, and he is not (nor claims to be) an expert in any field, and he throws out the size along with all the other old, unsubstantiated "Gee, whiz" sort of statements about the power of the bomb blast. SkoreKeep (talk) 16:50, 3 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this one better? Mojoworker (talk) 06:20, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, better. At least it's a product of a group of people, rather than one, and in a more-or-less scientific (eh, politico-scientific) text.  I don't know what would be especially better; an eyewitness with calipered eyeballs? In the scheme of things, its got to be close to correct anyway.  Note he says the fireball touched the ground, while most sources deny it, particularly the photo and video evidence. An imperfect world. SkoreKeep (talk) 06:58, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fireball size 

message: This article has repeatedly been vandalized by IP and anonymous mobile editors. Requesting page protection from an administrator, please. Netherzone (talk) 18:29, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Request forwarded to WP:RFPP. Mojoworker (talk) 19:59, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Semi-protected for one week. Protection can be requested again if IP disruption resumes later. Mojoworker (talk) 20:11, 20 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for page protection Suggestion 

message: : The weight and size of the Tsar Bomba limited the range and speed of the specially modified bomber carrying it and ruled out its delivery by an intercontinental ballistic missile.
The Proton (UR-500) started out as the delivery platform for the device. I don't see how even a weight of 27 tons "rules out" ICBM delivery.
: Much of its high-yield destructiveness was inefficiently radiated upwards into space.
As with any other air-burst device. I do not quite see the relevance? -- DevSolar2 (talk) 09:31, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section "Analysis" 

message: I know a limited amount of Russian. When I saw the notice on top (the "may be expanded") I decided to check the Russian page. That page has at least a bit more information. There's something about books in the Russian version, which the English version does not have. Can a bilingual English-Russian speaker add more info?
Respectfully, Thanoscar21 (talk) 15:32, 30 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm Russian, so I can help with translate from Russian article. KiL92 (talk) 23:52, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  is an excellent bilingual editor, she has worked on this article in the past. Netherzone (talk) 00:00, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can a bilingual English-Russian speaker add more info? 

message: By any chance, does the specific aircraft that dropped the bomb - a Tu-95V - still exist somewhere?  If not, does anyone know what happened to it?  Elsquared (talk) 18:06, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  fate of aircraft 

message: Recently, the Rosatom State Atomic Energy Corporation has released newly declassified footage of Tsar Bomba.
The information in the video linked above should be incorporated into the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.245.87.15 (talk) 13:44, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Declassified Colorized Footage, includes English Subtitles 

message: Reference 36 ("Tsar Bomba's Blast Wave Orbited Earth Three Times in 1961". Pravda.ru. 24 September 2009. Retrieved 24 September 2009.) mentions the bomb being dropped from a height of 4500 meters: "The aircraft dropped the bomb within the territory of the range ground at the height of 4,500 meters.". I think this is faulty. This reference ([36]) is placed after the sentence: "The Tsar Bomba was the single most physically powerful device ever deployed on Earth."...But the particular reference doesn't seem to mention why it would be the single most powerfull device deployed.
The article currently mentions (without a reference): "The bomb was released two hours after takeoff from a height of 10,500 m (34,500 ft) on a test target within Sukhoy Nos." 
Reference 22 (http://www.nuclearweaponarchive.org/Russia/TsarBomba.html) mentions a drop height of 10,500 meters: "It was released at 10,500 meters, and made a parachute retarded descent to 4000 meters in 188 seconds before detonation."
Unrelated sidenote: reference 25 seems to be a faulty link (https://www.wilsoncenter.org/topics/pubs/ACF1B7.pdf)
84.82.219.106 (talk) 19:37, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bomb drop height 

message: Translated multiple sections from :ru:Царь-бомба. Shari Garland (talk) 23:55, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: thank you for your translation work on this article. , , and other page watchers: Do you think it's OK now to remove the translation template from the top of the article? Netherzone (talk) 00:30, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  You're welcome. Shari Garland (talk) 23:29, 3 February 2021 (UTC)

text:  Please make any corrections you think need to be made. That would be great. Shari Garland (talk) 16:42, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation 

message: [36][better source needed]
 http: //www.proatom.ru/modules.php? name = News & file = article & sid = 3364 TSAR-BOMB 50 YEARS OLD | access-date = Dec 10, 2020}} Better source required | reason = Unable to verify the source. It is not known what this website is or who its author is. The "Bifilar" scheme does not make sense and will require two primary stages, as well as two sets of secondary ones. The use of two primary colors on each side was suggested as implausible during the Progressive event and should not be necessary. | Date = March 2021 
Quote: Better source required | reason = Unable to verify the source. It is not known what this website is or who its author is. The "Bifilar" scheme does not make sense and will require two primary stages, as well as two sets of secondary ones. The use of two primary colors on each side was suggested as implausible during the Progressive event and should not be necessary.  Date = March 2021
The source of information is reliable. This website belongs to the Russian Atomic Energy Agency, and the author of the article is A.V. Veselovsky, Honorary Veteran of RFNC-VNIIEF, Head of the Research and Testing Department (1956-2009), Laureate of the USSR State Prize, who was directly involved in the tests of the "king of the bomb" (AN-602) - a reliable source. This text received from the participant of the event and his direct observer.
For the radiation implosion of such a large secondary (unit, block), module (a thermonuclear charge with a power of 50 megatons in TNT equivalent, the diameter of the main fusion unit was about 2 meters) a very high X-ray power is needed, which could only be produced by 2 thermonuclear charges (primary modules), for uniform implosion placed with on two opposite sides of the secondary module (i.e. symmetrically).
Why exactly "thermonuclear" and not "nuclear" ones?
1). It doesn't matter which charge, nuclear or thermonuclear, is the source of X-rays for the secondary module. It is only important that this radiation is sufficient for effective radiation implosion of the used secondary module.
2). Nuclear charges have an explosion power, even with deuterium-tritium amplification, only a few tens of kilotons in TNT equivalent. (Even RDS-6s ("puff"), and even then had an explosion power of only 400 kilotons in TNT equivalent). And for effective radiation implosion of the Tsar Bomba secondary module, a design power of 2 x 750 kilotons in TNT equivalent was needed, which is about 10 times more than the "nuclear" charges could produce. Therefore, it was precisely "thermonuclear" charges that were used.
In 3 authoritative sources of information it is written (links to which are given below) that 2 thermonuclear charges were used as the first stage of the bomb, and not one nuclear:
1). РЕКОРДНЫЙ СОВЕТСКИЙ ВЗРЫВ А.К.Чернышев, заместитель научного руководителя РФЯЦ-ВНИИЭФ по технологиям испытаний. https://archive.is/floUD
1). RECORD SOVIET EXPLOSION A.K. Chernyshev, Deputy Scientific Director of RFNC-VNIIEF for Test Technologies.
Quote: «Among the features of this charge, it should be noted that the large volume of the charge (due to its high energy release) required significant amounts of X-ray energy for implosion. The developed nuclear charges did not satisfy this condition, and therefore, as a primary source of" super-powerful charge "The previously developed two-stage thermonuclear charge with relatively low energy release was used. This charge was previously developed by Yu.A. Trutnev and Yu.N. Babaev».
2). И.А. Андрюшин, А.К. Чернышев, Ю.А. Юдин. УКРОЩЕНИЕ ЯДРА. СТРАНИЦЫ ИСТОРИИ ЯДЕРНОГО ОРУЖИЯ и ЯДЕРНОЙ ИНФРАСТРУКТУРЫ СССР. Саров, 2003. https://www.atomic-energy.ru/files/books/Ukroschenie%20yadra%20(2005).pdf Эта же информация есть на стр. 113.
2). I.A. Andryushin, A.K. Chernyshev, Yu.A. Yudin. TAMING THE CORE. PAGES OF THE HISTORY OF NUCLEAR WEAPONS AND NUCLEAR INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE USSR. Sarov, 2003. The same information is on page 113.
Quote: «Among the features of this charge, it should be noted that the large volume of the charge (due to its high energy release) required significant amounts of X-ray energy for implosion. The developed nuclear charges did not satisfy this condition, and therefore, as a primary source of" super-powerful charge "A previously developed two-stage thermonuclear charge with a relatively low energy release was used. This charge was previously developed by Yu.A. Trutnev and Yu.N. Babaev».
3). А.В.Веселовский, почетный ветеран РФЯЦ-ВНИИЭФ, начальник научно-испытательного отдела (в 1956-2009 гг.), Лауреат Госпремии СССР ЦАРЬ БОМБЕ 50 ЛЕТ (https://web.archive.org/web/20111112092615/www.proatom.ru/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3364)
3). A.V. Veselovsky, Honorary Veteran of RFNC-VNIIEF, Head of the Research and Testing Department (in 1956-2009), Laureate of the USSR State Prize TSAR BOMBE 50 YEARS OLD (https://web.archive.org/web/20111112092615/www.proatom.ru/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=3364)
Quote: «A large number of serious innovations were applied to the design of the superbomb itself and its charge. A powerful thermonuclear charge was made according to a" bifilar "scheme: for radiation implosion of the main thermonuclear block, two thermonuclear charges were placed on both sides (front and back) to ensure synchronous (with a time difference of no more than 0.1 microseconds) ignition of thermonuclear fuel. KB-25 (VNIIA) has modified a serial block of automatic detonation for this charge».
The RDS-202 used 2 thermonuclear charges (the so-called "bifilar" scheme), which was later used to create the RN-602 ("Tsar" of the bomb).  Links to 2 sources of information:
1). http://elib.biblioatom.ru/text/dela-i-gody_2010/go,18/ - Дела и годы: 50-летию КБ-2 РФИЦ-ВНИИТФ посвящается …. ("Дела и годы", с.18)
http://elib.biblioatom.ru/text/dela-i-gody_2010/go,18/  - Deeds and years: the 50th anniversary of KB-2 RFITS-VNIITF is dedicated to…. ("Deeds and Years", p.18)
Quote: «In the USSR, in November 1955, a successful test of the YaZ was carried out, based on the use of a new compression principle, which makes it possible to create charges of high and ultra-high power with a high utilization rate of nuclear materials. Calculation and theoretical work to justify the physical charging scheme for the new SPAB, which provides for the use, in contrast to the tested prototype, of two primary initiators instead of one and much heavier main energy-releasing module, were completed in June 1956».
2). http://book.sarov.ru/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Atom-73-2017-2.pdf - Н. П. Волошин. 'Его именем назван уральский ядерный центр'. Атом, №1, 73-2017, стр. 5
http://book.sarov.ru/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/Atom-73-2017-2.pdf  - N.P. Voloshin. "The Ural nuclear center is named after him." Atom, No. 1, 73-2017, p. 5
Quote: «A group of theoreticians headed by E.I. Zababakhin and Yu.A. Romanov (E.N. Avrorin, Yu.S. Vakhrameev, M.N. Nechaev, V.B. Rozanov, L.P. Feoktistov, M.D. Churazov, M.P.Shumaev), successful ways were chosen to improve the physical charging circuit, in comparison with the prototype - RDS-37, aimed at ensuring the operation of a much heavier secondary module. In particular, for the first time, two primary modules were used to service the main one».
Finder-nev (talk) 23:25, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better source required 

message: Hi all Wiki Authors,
With reference to the following sentence, in the second paragraph under the section 'Project Goals': 
As an expression of the concept of nuclear deterrence adopted during the leadership of Georgy Malenkov and Nikita Khrushchev, the actual strategic situation in consideration to this concept, for the Soviet Union, as a consequence of the disequilibrium with regards to the Soviet Union vis-à-vis America's nuclear weapons possessions, to the favour of the latter, was that the creation of Tsar Bomba represented a necessitated bluff.
Appears to be an overly long and nonsensical way of saying the Soviet Union chose to go bigger to challenge the USA's more accurate deployment. I was going to change it to something I considered a little clearer, but after reading some of the conversations on how the English language should be structured in this thread, realised I was way out of my league on correct vocabulary. Any thoughts...?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.221.243.232 (talk) 23:09, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the wording is somewhat tortuous. Would something like  Given the Soviet Union's actual strategic disadvantage vis-à-vis America's nuclear weapons possessions, foreign policy and propaganda considerations during the leaderships of Georgy Malenkov and Nikita Khrushchev made a response to the perceived US nuclear blackmail imperative. The creation of the Tsar Bomba represented a necessitated bluff in order to maintain the concept of nuclear deterrence. convey the same meaning more clearly? JezGrove (talk) 23:42, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to wonder if the current wording more accurately illuminates the zeitgeist of the times. It reflects the pattern of official pronouncements published in Pravda. Then again, unless you lived through it, you probably need post-graduate studies in interpreting cold-war propaganda statements to understand it. Tarl N. (discuss) 23:52, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You may be correct, in which case it should be used as a direct quote. But for the benefit of the reader not familiar with Pravda-approved linguistics something more comprehensible might be necessary? JezGrove (talk) 00:01, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, absolutely. But the wording evoked a sense of nostalgia for me, having read many similar passages that had emerged from that conflict. Your wording is far more comprehensible. Tarl N. (discuss) 00:10, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks - I'll make the change shortly if there are no objections. JezGrove (talk) 01:06, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nonsensical Gibberish 

message: The arcticle says that "A secret U.S. reconnaissance aircraft [...] [had] its antiradiation paint scorched. It doesn't explain what "antiradiation paint" is?
And a quick search also doesn't reveal much. And the sources also doesn't seem to mention anything like that? Remove or change or provide an explanation?
PS: It could mean "EMR/EMF Shielding Paint" but that isn't mentionend?
CityScraper (talk) 20:59, 25 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It could mean either Anti-flash white to reflect thermal radiation or paint containing lead to stop x-rays and other radiation. I am not sure which is meant, it could be both. BertTheDragon (talk) 08:35, 24 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is "antiradiation paint " and why is it explainend nowhere? 

message: That announcement was in error, as the US had in fact tested five times under Operation Nougat ....
That announcement was in error, as the US had in fact done five underground tests under Operation Nougat .... 
<United States Nuclear Tests July 1945 through September 1992></DOE/NV--209-Rev 16  September 2015>
73.163.88.137 (talk) 23:50, 8 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  USA nuclear tests in Sept & Oct 1961 before Tsar Bomba 

message: Add the links of Indian nuclear bomb tests as well: Pokhran-I and Pokhran-II in the section of "See also". BoyHayHay (talk) 15:53, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 10 July 2022 

message: Might these be worth mentioning in the article? Or even having articles of their own? Seems there has been recent evidence that the USA developed designs as large as 100 Megatons following the Tsar Bomba test in the event that the Soviets violated the Partial Test Ban in the 1960s, likely having to do with Flashback.https://www.aerospaceprojectsreview.com/blog/?p=3266
https://theaviationgeekclub.com/the-story-of-the-b-52-stratofortress-that-carried-the-flashback-test-vehicle-the-nuclear-bomb-bigger-than-the-soviet-tsar-bomba/ 2603:8001:9C01:F7DD:A906:37DF:C076:28D0 (talk) 15:49, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flashback Test Vehicle and Big Test Vehicle 

message: So you don't got to scroll down and just be like man I die 72.28.34.33 (talk) 20:14, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Show a picture at the top that TZAR looks like 

message: There are some discrepancies introduced by this reference. It's cited as a source for claims M & N in the article. 
Claim M states that the flare was visible at a distance of 1000km and that it was visible from Alaska. Small problem, Alaska is 4000km from Novaya Zemlya.
I have tried to find either this author or the source on Google Scholar but the only K. A. Chernyshev I can find publishes in the field of Chemical Physics, not Nuclear Physics. The source itself cannot be found. 2A02:C7C:5841:6900:D5D6:63B8:4C1E:CFB2 (talk) 01:00, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably this? It is one of the difficulties of this article, that many of its Russian language sources are poorly cited and have translated names that make finding them very difficult... NuclearSecrets (talk) 15:04, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can anyone cite a digital link to Reference 17?