Talk:Full metal jacket (ammunition)

message: Is there any source claiming that FMJs are effective in combat BECAUSE they create an injured solider instead of a corpse?
: There could be, but they'd be wrong. SkonesMickLoud (talk) 13:55, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not necessarily.  When you have an incapacitated soldier, you potentially take 2-3 individuals out of the firefight if they are busy providing aid or removing them from the battlefield.  It does need to be sourced, though. nf utvol (talk) 16:35, 3 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Effectiveness of FMJ

message: I reworded the History paragraph because the previous version made very little sense to me; I hope that I didn't inadvertently introduce any inaccuracy (I know nothing about this subject) in my interpolation. -- EmmetCaulfield 13:46, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Are ball and metal case the same as full metal jacket? --Leif Runenritzer (talk) 19:50, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "Ball" is.  No idea about "metal case".  Never heard that one before.  Faceless Enemy (talk) 07:08, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've only ever heard metal case refer to the actual brass casing of the cartridge, usually in reference to shotgun shells (as opposed to plastic or paper casings).nf utvol (talk) 16:13, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Remington uses the term "metal case" and occasionally "full metal case" in their advertising copy and technical material to describe this type of bullet.  I do not know whether any other manufacturer uses those specific terms, however.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.61.156.96 (talk) 02:45, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Other names

message: Should there be a reference to TMJ? I came to Wikipedia to find out what TMJ was and all I got was a redirect to FMJ with no explanation. An external site states that FMJ (Full Metal Jacket) is a jacket from the tip down the sides, but not covering the rear of the bullet. TMJ (Total Metal Jacket) totally envelops the bullet, including the rear.
Stargzer (talk) 02:27, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I converted the redirect to a description of the differences between electroplated and swaged jackets. Thewellman (talk) 05:48, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''TMJ''

message: This section is largely unreferenced, and seems somewhat misleading to begin with, especially the following section:
Hollow point and soft tipped bullets are for use against soft targets only, such as animals or people, whereas Full Metal Jacket bullets can be indiscriminately used against soft and hard targets, delivering sub-optimal damage to both kinds of targets. Jacketed bullets require a certain velocity for proper expansion based on its size, and larger quantity of gunpowder must be needed. They are the most expensive followed by plated bullets and last cast. Jacketed bullets are also bulkier, heavier and a handful to carry because they have a bigger volume and occupy more space. Rifles using this bullet must have large fitting magazine and speedloader capacity to insert it easier.
It reads like a descrition of FMJ rounds in a video game, not reality, such as comments about them being the most expensive (they're the most produced, so in reality, they're often the least expensive to purchase), bulkier and heavier (not necessarily, some non-FMJ rounds can be heavier, such as cast bullets, because lead is heavier than copper), and being a "handful" to carry (many soft point bullets have negligible differences in dimensions in comparison to FMJ rounds).  The whole last sentence about needing larger magazines and speedloaders has nothing to do with FMJ rounds.
Anyway, going to be rewriting this section and getting rid of most of the current content if there are no objections.nf utvol (talk) 16:30, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disadvantages section 

message: "Ball Ammunition" redirects to this page.  If it's going to redirect, it should be explicitly referenced somewhere in the article as an alternative name. Thistledowne (talk) 23:04, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ball Ammunition redirect 

message: Removed unreferenced work, corrected Hague Convention myth, and tried to re-word with focus on the projectile, not the cartridge. Added "Ball" ammunition reference. Severely cut POV sections. Changed "Disadvantages" to a more neutral explanation of "Impact Characteristics". This article could use some good graphics showing the differences between the styles of jacketing, instead of lots of pics of cartridges with the same kind of jacketed bullet. It's like showing different cars to illustrate tire design details. BeadleB (talk) 18:42, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-write & Corrections