Talk:Japanese Communist Party

message: The history section refers to "Stalinism" (a problematic term in and of itself) as a "non-Marxist ideology". This is Trotskyist, liberal, or "classical Marxist" POV. Most communists (or at least those who can be differentiated from social-democrats) uphold the experience of the Stalin era as a flawed but legitimate example of socialism.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.201.94.3 (talk) 13:21, 23 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV assertions 

message: Although I'm not an expert on Japanese Communists I don't see why it is necessary to devote almost half the history section to Lam Peng Er's view of the JCP written 10 years ago. I seriously doubt that his view is a universal one and therefore either this section should be dropped or an opposite view presented.
Andrés Böðvarsson, Iceland--85.197.246.71 16:49, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *I remember the Japanese Communist Party sending political speech trucks into the streets to PROTEST a Koizumi tax raise in `03! Times have changedstruggle 16:13, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lam Peng Er 

message: I spent four months in Japan in 1980, and had much contact with the JCP.
The idea that the JCP is pro-North Korea would come from its (formerly?) close relations with Choosen Sooren, then the main representative group of Korean residents in Japan.  Choosen Sooren is pro-North Korea.  I was once inside its Osaka HQ, so can attest to that!
At JCP rallies the representative of Choosen Sooren was always the first dignitary to be introduced.  This seems to have been a strict rule of the JCP.  This may have been partly to keep Choosen Sooren from going off the rails completely, and partly as a mark of respect to the Koreans in Japan.  I don't think it proves that the JCP was truly pro-North Korea, but its hard to say.  At that time South Korea was in the grip of an extremely violent military dictatorship.
Recently I have read much about the reasons for China's support of North Korea's aggression in 1950.  
At that time Korea must have been quite strong as an industrial power, as it had been built up by the Japanese and had suffered little from the war.  I think that Mao Zedong wished to smash Korea and ensure that it remained divided.  This view is nothing new.
However, I think there was another reason.  It's pretty obvious that war in Korea would lead the US occupation authorities immediately to smash the JCP.  The JCP was Mao's chief ideological competitor, and I think this was a major reason why he supported that terrible war.  I wonder whether this thought ever occurred to the JCP--that they were being deliberately targeted by the Chinese Communists, or at least by Mao.  It's typical of the sort of thing he would have done, but it appears that he never discussed it with any of his colleagues.  The smashing of the JCP would have been entirely obvious to Mao.Luo Shanlian (talk) 01:39, 1 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some thoughts about the JCP 

message: , I am curious as to your rationale for moving this page from Japanese Communist Party. The party clearly refers to itself as the JCP, as does mainstream media (The Economist, Time, the Wall St Journal and the Japan Times) and Encyclopedia Brittanica. Is there a particular reason you made this move? You didn't mention one in the edit summary, and you haven't done anything to change the lead of the article. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 06:27, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It has been more than a week so I have moved it back. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 01:52, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move of this page 

message: , I have noticed that you reverted an IP's recent change to the party's description with the comment "This has been discussed many times before..." I can't find any discussion in the history of this page, so perhaps it is worth starting a discussion. This recent article (currently used as footnote #19) describes the party as having some "extreme leftist policies". But by softening their attitude towards working with other opposition parties, I suppose you could say that it shows they are not that extreme. Right now I don't have a position on which I think it should be, but it is something worth discussing on the article's talk page. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 02:32, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The discussions I was referring to were via edits over many months so its understandable if you cannot find them. The article you are referring to is saying that Okada views some of the JCP's policies to be extreme, however this is purely his opinion and as such is not fact. As can be seen on the JCP's page the party very strictly adheres to working and maintaining democracy and isn't interested in any sort of one-party, Marxist-Leninist style government; the party has been very critical of governments that have adopted this, such as when Russia was a one-party state. The party is also strictly pacifist and Communism in of itself is not a far-left ideology.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Helper201 (talk • contribs) 14:15, 13 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all, forgive me for moving your comment into the correct order. I tend to agree with you, in that the party as a whole is not that extreme, e.g. they are willing to work with other parties. It is also true that Okada's comments are only his opinion. But that must be countered with the fact that there is certainly an element of truth to his opinion; he would not have said it at the same time as entering an agreement with the JCP if it was false. In any event, these sorts of discussions should happen here on the talk page; back and forth via edit summaries is not really a discussion. Over time other contributors can add as they wish. AtHomeIn神戸 (talk) 01:18, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Left or Far-left? 

message: So I have twice tried to remove these links and given reason for doing so, only to be reverted with no counter reasoning. My reasoning is as follows. There is no cited evidence given on this page that in the 21st century the party still advocates the ideology of communism. While still being called the 'Japanese Communist Party', if the party no longer advocates the actual ideology of communism it is misrepresentative to lump it together with other communist parties that do still advocate this ideology (as it may imply to some that this party does also advocate this ideology). As further evidence of the party distancing itself from other communist parties, it can be seen that the party has not attended the International Meeting of Communist and Workers' Parties since 1998 (before its current leader, Kazuo Shii, even lead the party) and the party also do not attend the International Communist Seminar. As with many aspects of Japan, its politics and the way they operate are very different to the rest of the world and in many ways its communist party is and has been quite different from many other communist parties, to assume it to be akin to most other communist parties is quite ignorant. Helper201 (talk) 18:45, 19 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of the 'communist parties' box and communism portal 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Just curious, the article kind of implies it here and several other places: "During the 1980s, however, party membership began to decline, falling to 370,000 by 1997.[6] Owing to a significant loss in electoral support, the party revised its policies in the 1990s and became a more traditional democratic socialist party.[8]"
However, it is not entirely clear and I'm only finding other parties when I search JCP ML (and related searches). Thank you. 69.120.198.52 (talk) 23:06, 31 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Were they ever Marxist-Leninist? 

message: Thought it would be worthwhile to explain myself further. Bottom line is,  because  To put into perspective, the Soviet Union (or the CPSU) was not a part of the Korean independence movement because it supported Kim Il Sung's guerrillas materially and diplomatically. And of course, neither the Soviet Union nor the Japanese Communist Party have made (or would make) a claim to a legacy that is not theirs. Yue🌙 05:01, 2 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of [[:Category:Organizations of the Korean independence movement]]