Talk:New York City Subway nomenclature

message: You like so far, SPUI? :) -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 05:57, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not bad; I'll probably wait until you've done more before editing it again, to avoid edit conflicts. --SPUI 06:25, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm now writing off line, so you can edit if you like, but it might be a good idea to edit in small chunks to minimize the possibility of conflict when I add a section. BTW, I wrote this because I was starting to explain these points on the project talk page, but figured WTF, why do all that writing for a talk page when it could be read by anyone in a permanent article. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 06:32, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: One suggestion I have is to have the first section be about the current system, and then everything after dealing with the history. --SPUI 06:39, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)

text: Well, I only have the modern section to go, and it flows as a narrative with what went before. But it does make sense to tell people what the current system is first, so if you have a way to summarize current practice in an opening section, or whatever, that would probably be good. -- Cecropia | explains it all ® 07:16, 28 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: old comments

message: I corrected the information on the diamond 5.
5 service to 238th Street is signified as a diamond and only runs during the rush hours.  The page had it as regular service with Dyre Avenue trains as rush hour.  The Dyre Avenue 5 (a/k/a  "circle 5") is the regular service.
--Allan 17:29, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks - I missed that somehow. --SPUI (talk) 18:20, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diamond 5 service 

message: The opening paragraph as it stood:
:"Nomenclature used on the New York City Subway system has been defined by New York City's Metropolitan Transportation Authority (MTA) to precisely identify each part of the system, both internally and publicly. Some of the nomenclature dates back to the original operators of the system, while some was adopted much more recently because of changing conditions."
was too broadly stated, and factually incorrect at several levels. The wording I substituted describes the origin of the nomenclature, very little of which originated after Unification in 1940. Additionally:
*The bolded lead statement is supposed to match the title of the article (matter of Wikipedia style);
*It has not been defined by the MTA. The MTA is an oversite agency only, though it has influence over its subsidiaries and affilities'
*The MTA is not "New York City's" anything. It is a state corporate agency; in fact the NYCTA is also a state, not a city entity;
*Almost all of the nomenclature in this article is from historical usage, as I alluded to above, not from an conscious effort to "precisely identify each part of the system. In point of fact, nomenclature varies depending between public and internal usage, and also varies between legal and colloquial usage. -- Cecropia 02:54, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening paragraph 

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message: The brochure referenced shows that the R diamond was yellow. According to , it was always yellow, but newer rollsigns have a brown R diamond. --NE2 19:33, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: R diamond

message: I have added the M service to Nassau Street again. Essex Street is part of the Nassau Street trunk line. That station is served by the M, which is now orange. The Nassau Street trunk line now serves two different colors; brown and orange at that station. A similar situation will occur when the Second Avenue trunk line opens. It's trunk line color will be turquoise, but it will also be served by the yellow Q above 63rd Street. Thanks. Acps110 (talk • contribs) 12:14, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I added an explanation stating that the M train uses TWO trunk lines despite being colored orange.Richiekim (talk) 13:19, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, that looks good. I still don't understand why the FIND on the R160s shows a colored bullet when the M is in shuttle service. It should be gray then. Acps110 (talk • contribs) 13:36, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trunk line vs. service bullets 

message: While I have avoided using the term "Line" with regards to train services here, it is clearly a correct use of the term, as such is used by people in day to day communications, the press, as well as the MTA itself in press releases. Why do we on wikipedia have a policy of avoiding this, when clearly no such policy is used outside of this website?157.252.166.124 (talk) 18:35, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The line refers to the physical railroad a service or train travels over. Calling a service a line is just confusing. Acps110 (talk • contribs) 20:04, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of term "Line" 

message: This section could be expanded. I can see evidence of diamond service early as 1979 ().--Svgalbertian (talk) 18:16, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diamond services 

message: The article says: Of the system's 468 stations, 32 are named by a combination street and landmark, 21 by street and neighborhood name, 15 solely for landmarks, and three solely for neighborhoods; the remainder are identified by street names alone.
I have counted something else:
How many	What
329     	street (168 Streets, 111 Avenues)
12      	neighborhood
2       	stadium
1       	museum
3       	municipality
3       	transit station
2       	park
53      	street + street
23      	neighborhood + street
5       	street + neighborhood
5       	street + stadium
4       	street + museum
1       	street + municipality
4       	street + transit station
1       	transit station + street
1       	neighborhood + transit station
3       	street + park
1       	park + street
4       	street + business center
1       	street + street + business center
6       	street + university or college
1       	other object (aqueduct) + street
1       	sports team + neighborhood
1       	neighborhood + street + street
1       	street + street + transit station
Vcohen (talk) 15:38, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Station names counted 

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message: In the section on Internal Usage, would it be worth mentioning that the Myrtle Avenue Line (including the current M train shuttle) always travels in a compass direction other than its railroad direction? That seems just as interesting as the Nassau Street Line railroad north going south in Manhattan. The M train timetable lists the southbound stops of the shuttle in the general direction of compass northeast. Islanddon (talk) 04:12, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  M train shuttle southbound never goes south