Talk:First Battle of Middlewich

message: This article was created by copying text out of the Middlewich article . That text was eventually removed from the Middlewich article. So for history of the text before 17:06, 27 February 2006, see the history of the Middlewich article. --Philip Baird Shearer 19:39, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
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message: The Battle of Nantwich took place 26 January 1644, so unless there were two battles of Nantwich, the source Sir Thomas Aston, 1st Bt is wrong about the date of the battle. I suspect that it is wrong, because it states Aston was captured at Nantwich, which if true and the date was correct, would have made him a prisoner before this battle. So I am removing (following the Battle of Nantwich in January 1642). from the article. --Philip Baird Shearer 19:00, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The reference to Nantwich is correct although it was a skirmish rather than a battle. However the source Sir Thomas Aston, 1st Btis wrong about Aston being captured there. He was captured in November 1645 on his way to Cheshire. ChrisBr 17:38, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Battle of Nantwich

message: This article is very badly written and seems, especially in the section on the battle itself, to repeat the narrative of events several times with slight variations. The author seems to place more emphasis on including quotations than on writing a clear summary.  Persons are referred to without having been introduced. The word "latter" is overused in the section on the events of the 12th that is already sufficiently confused by the references to two different Breretons (apparently unfortunately both named William). Ellis is described in some places as a captain and in others as a colonel. Aston seems to have only one troop of horse, but then at least three troops of Royalist horse are separately identified. At first Sir William is said to not intend to attack the Royalists, but then he is then said to have intended an attack. No attempt is made to describe in a clear fashion the original Royalist plan of defense.It is unclear why Professor Eric Ives is called out by name in text when there is no indication his theories are controversial or distinctive--references notes would be sufficient. Almost all of the cited online sources are dead links.
Hopefully someone with access to good, sound material can rewrite this article in a more comprehensible form.
ETA: I've found a copy of Phillips at archive.org, which contains both Aston's and Brereton's accounts of the battle. As soon as I have time, I will attempt a revision of the article to make it more readable and less confused while retaining the current level of information.
Winterbadger (talk) 21:50, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  poorly written, confused, and seemingly duplicative 

message: http://www.middlewichguardian.co.uk/news/9442799.Middlewich_photographer_finds_a_piece_of_history/
Someone appears to have found a cannonball from the war.©Geni 17:08, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: minor archaeological find

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