Talk:Monarchy of Barbados

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message: *Table of Precedence for Barbados
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At the top they list the Governor-General.  The Queen's representative. It is current as of this administration in power now.  July 2008. CaribDigita (talk) 00:17, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barbados really doesn't recognize the Monarchy? 

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message: I'd love to see a verifiable source that shows the Queen's domestic constitutional duties in Barbados. The sentence should read "All of the Queen's domestic duties are performed by this vice-regal representative." --LJ Holden 04:15, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  " Most of the Queen's domestic duties are performed by this vice-regal representative." 

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message: Assuming Charles doesn't succeed to the throne, before Barbados abolishes it. This article will likely be 'moved' to Queen of Barbados. Seeing as Queen of country is used for the other abolished monarchies, that had only Elizabeth II as monarch. GoodDay (talk) 23:01, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Strong Oppose: They all were monarchies, not queenships. "Queen of Barbados" is just a title, whereas this article (and all other similar ones) cover the monarchy as an institution: how it functions, it's history, symbols etc etc.  Peter Ormond 💬 23:05, 23 October 2021 (UTC)

text: PS: All the former monarchies were originally titled Monarchy of country, but were moved to Queen of country without any RM discussion.  Peter Ormond 💬 23:08, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: You're free to open an RM on all those articles-in-question. Now would be a good time, with a little over a month left before Barbados becomes a Commonwealth republic. GoodDay (talk) 23:09, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I did recently. See Talk:Queen of Ghana#Requested move 12 August 2021, which resulted in no consensus.  Peter Ormond 💬 23:13, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Give it another go, then. I'll support "Monarchy of country" for all of them. But, I won't let Barbados be out of sync with the "Queen of country" articles, unless Charles ascends the throne between now & 30 Nov. GoodDay (talk) 23:24, 23 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  RM in future, likely. 

message: Barring any unexpected developments, Barbados will become a republic on November 30, 2021 (a bit over a month from me writing this).  In addition to some necessary rewrites (e.g. changing instances of "is" to "was"), we may want to change the article name to "Queen of Barbados" (assuming Elizabeth II doesn't die before the transition).  Queen of Mauritius is the equivalent name for article on that country's former monarchy, which similarly was only ever Elizabeth II.  (I'm less sure if an article name change would be in order if she dies before then and is thus succeeded by her son, Charles, who would be styled as King.)  --ROADKILL (talk) 00:34, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name change after Barbados becomes a republic? 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: not moved.  DrKay (talk) 07:44, 3 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Monarchy of Barbados →  – The vast majority of the former monarchy articles, that have had only Elizabeth II as monarch, are titled Queen of country, rather then Monarchy of country. What should this article's title be, when the Barbadian monarchy is abolished on November 30, 2021? GoodDay (talk) 20:43, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

text: Strong Oppose: It is a monarchy, not a queenship. "Queen of Barbados" is just a title, whereas this article covers the monarchy as an institution: how it functions, its history, symbols etc etc. The title of the page should not be about the monarch herself, but about the institution that governed Barbados for more than 50 years.  Peter Ormond 💬 20:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC)

text: *Good point, thanks. Maybe December 1 will be the time to change the name for site consistency since until then this monarchy is set-up to be a hand-me-down to Charles or William. Randy Kryn (talk) 17:17, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: *I'm hoping this RM will last a full month. Thus the reason, I opened it yesterday. GoodDay (talk) 17:27, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: *Without my handy crystal ball it is difficult to tell what might happen in the next month or so. Perhaps we should take a day at a time, and by that, attempt at some consensus now as things stand today. And then let next month/year/decade take care of itself. And as the current consensus is leaning towards keeping it the way it is, there is certainly little harm if things do change in the future. And we can always do a new move request at that point in time. TiggerJay (talk) 20:36, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: *Keep it going until after November 30. No harm will be done, between now & then. GoodDay (talk) 21:43, 27 October 2021 (UTC)

text: The Fiji monarchy has had other reigning rulers aside from Elizabeth, so that is in a different class than those already abolished where she was the sole ruler. Randy Kryn (talk) 17:21, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The Fiji page-in-question, can be split into separate articles. GoodDay (talk) 17:25, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: One option would be to title all articles about monarchies "Monarchy of X", regardless of who ruled. We would also rewrite for consistency if necessary. Another option would be to name articles where only Elizabeth II ruled as "Queen of X" while naming countries where others have ruled as "Monarchy of X" (e.g., Pakistan). I personally prefer the former, but I am willing to change my mind. Scorpions13256 (talk) 18:27, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I too prefer Monarchy of country for all current & former monarchy articles. Consistency is paramount, in my PoV. Was disappointed in the result of the August 2021 RM. GoodDay (talk) 20:11, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I also prefer "Monarchy of X", even when the country was only ruled by a single king/queen. 36.77.95.52 (talk) 20:44, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I also prefer Monarchy of X". Not sure why that discussion was closed as it was, it should re relitigated and reverted.Eccekevin (talk) 04:27, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps that August RFC needs a re-do in the near future. GoodDay (talk) 05:15, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 26 October 2021 

message: :Strong Oppose: It is a monarchy, not a queenship. "Queen of Barbados" is just a title, whereas this article covers the monarchy as an institution: how it functions, its history, symbols etc etc. The title of the page should not be about the monarch herself, but about the institution that governed Barbados for more than 50 years.  Peter Ormond 💬 20:51, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: *Good point, thanks. Maybe December 1 will be the time to change the name for site consistency since until then this monarchy is set-up to be a hand-me-down to Charles or William. Randy Kryn (talk) 17:17, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: *I'm hoping this RM will last a full month. Thus the reason, I opened it yesterday. GoodDay (talk) 17:27, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: *Without my handy crystal ball it is difficult to tell what might happen in the next month or so. Perhaps we should take a day at a time, and by that, attempt at some consensus now as things stand today. And then let next month/year/decade take care of itself. And as the current consensus is leaning towards keeping it the way it is, there is certainly little harm if things do change in the future. And we can always do a new move request at that point in time. TiggerJay (talk) 20:36, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: *Keep it going until after November 30. No harm will be done, between now & then. GoodDay (talk) 21:43, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Note, the lone stand out among the current former monarchy articles-in-question, is Monarchy of Fiji. The rest are in Queen of country form. GoodDay (talk) 21:00, 26 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The Fiji monarchy has had other reigning rulers aside from Elizabeth, so that is in a different class than those already abolished where she was the sole ruler. Randy Kryn (talk) 17:21, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The Fiji page-in-question, can be split into separate articles. GoodDay (talk) 17:25, 27 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: One option would be to title all articles about monarchies "Monarchy of X", regardless of who ruled. We would also rewrite for consistency if necessary. Another option would be to name articles where only Elizabeth II ruled as "Queen of X" while naming countries where others have ruled as "Monarchy of X" (e.g., Pakistan). I personally prefer the former, but I am willing to change my mind. Scorpions13256 (talk) 18:27, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I too prefer Monarchy of country for all current & former monarchy articles. Consistency is paramount, in my PoV. Was disappointed in the result of the August 2021 RM. GoodDay (talk) 20:11, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I also prefer "Monarchy of X", even when the country was only ruled by a single king/queen. 36.77.95.52 (talk) 20:44, 28 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I also prefer Monarchy of X". Not sure why that discussion was closed as it was, it should re relitigated and reverted.Eccekevin (talk) 04:27, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps that August RFC needs a re-do in the near future. GoodDay (talk) 05:15, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Does Barbados become a republic at the stroke of midnight? Which would be 04:00, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we'll have to go by Barbados's time. I am following the events here.  Peter Ormond 💬 01:22, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Noting: Midnight in Barbados, is 04:00 (UTC) Wikipedia time. GoodDay (talk) 01:40, 30 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exactly when does the monarchy end? 

message: User:Celia Homeford, please don't remove content based on your personal opinion and discuss on the talk page rather than edit-warring. Thanks.  Peter Ormond 💬 14:40, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Peter Ormond, please don't add content based on your personal opinion and discuss on the talk page rather than edit-warring. Celia Homeford (talk) 15:35, 2 May 2023 (UTC)

text: Yes, two can play at the game of personalising a content dispute. Celia Homeford (talk) 15:35, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone can see who is edit-warring, and I won't respond in this section further as I don't want to get involved in pointless arguments. Regards,  Peter Ormond 💬 16:08, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP:BRD