Talk:Zenit (rocket family)

message: Four tiny articles are disambiguated at Zenit.  One of them may as well get the main title.  The rocket launch vehicle that's currently being used to launch several nations' satellites seems like the most prominent choice.  —Michael Z. 2005-01-27 02:08 Z
*Oppose. There have been too many different things named "Zenit" in Soviet Union and Russia. — Monedula 07:45, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Zenit rocket]] &rarr; [[Zenit]] 

message: Does this article meet the criteria for "B-class" yet? In particular:
 is it suitably referenced, and are all major points appropriately cited?
 does it reasonably cover the topic, and not contain major omissions or inaccuracies?
 does it have a defined structure, including a lead section and one or more sections of content?
 is it free from major grammatical errors?
 does it contain appropriate supporting materials, such as an infobox, images, or diagrams?
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thread_title:  B-class? 

message: *Zenit-3F: "The Zenit-3F, Zenit-3SLBF or Zenit-2SB/Fregat is an Ukrainian expendable carrier rocket."
*Zenit-2M: "The Zenit-2M, Zenit-2SB or Zenit-2SLB is an Ukrainian expendable carrier rocket"
Looks like these articles overlap quite a bit. For example, both claim to be about Zenit-2SB. I'm not very familiar with the different versions and the naming scheme, but it looks like some merging and clarification is needed here. Nanobear (talk) 22:29, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: *Thanks for the clarification. So the version number (2 or 3) means the number of stages? Btw, if you can, maybe you also answer my question at Talk:2011 in spaceflight. Nanobear (talk) 23:17, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: *I don't know if it was intended to, but it does. The naming is quite confusing: Zenit-2 was the old two stage version, Zenit-2M is the new two stage version for Russian Government launches, however it would be known as Zenit-2SLB if it were to be used for a commercial launch (nobody has ordered one yet). The designation Zenit-2SB also applies to these, however this only seems to be used when an upper stage is present. The SL stands for Sea Launch. 3SL is the three-stage version with a Blok DM-SL upper stage, 3SLB is the modernised version with a Blok DM-SLB upper stage, and Zenit-3M would be used to denote a Russian government version of the 3SLB (again, this is unused). Zenit-3F is the three stage version with a Fregat upper stage (presumably F for Fregat), it is also known as Zenit-3SLBF (possibly a hypothetical commercial version, but it is not offered), and 2SB/Fregat (probably for parity with Soyuz/Fregat, which do not have a name for the combined vehicle). There was also a Zenit-3, although it never flew. My understanding is that it would have been fairly similar to the 3SL, with a Blok DM upper stage. --GW… 23:38, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
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