Talk:Adlai Stevenson II

message: His name was put into nomination, why isn't this mentioned?Ericl (talk) 14:23, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: 1960 campaign

message: Stevenson didn't testify before HUAC. He gave a sworn statement.
Agreed. I have corrected the inaccurate claim. Stevenson actually gave a private, sworn deposition to lawyers regarding Hiss's character. His "defense" of Hiss, based on a brief period of working with him in the 1930s (they were not close friends or associates), consisted of telling the lawyers that Hiss's reputation for integrity, loyalty, and veracity was "good". That's a long way from the distorted claims of Joseph McCarthy and Richard Nixon - then Eisenhower's running mate - in the 1952 presidential campaign that Stevenson had actively defended Hiss and was a close associate or friend of Hiss. McCarthy repeatedly ("accidentally") even confused the two men's first names in the campaign, stating "Alger...I mean Adlai" in his speeches.70.145.229.162 (talk) 17:29, 11 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Alger Hiss

message: Why is there no mention of the CFR?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.219.224.19 (talk) 07:38, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Council on Foreign Relations 

message: You know who is not actually "extremely notable"?  An obscure nineteenth century vice president.  This Adlai Stevenson is clearly the primary topic for the name.  We ought to go back to the way it was before. john k (talk) 14:32, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Primary topic 

message: Changed: "he defeated incumbent Republican Dwight H. Green in the Truman landslide" to "he defeated incumbent Republican Dwight H. Green on President Truman's coattails." Truman did not win by anything approaching a landslide.Ctnelsen (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 00:14, 1 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  1948 Victory 

message: In today's Slate, there is an article about this aspect of Stevenson's life which suggests (and cites an apparently reliable source for) a different account of the incident in which the young Stevenson looks far more reckless:
Martin's biography does not otherwise appear to be cited here. Is there a reason for this that is not immediately apparent? If there isn't, can and should we put this in the article? It seems relevant—Stevenson was the son of a prominent political family even at that time, and I have little trouble imagining that rules were bent to spare the family with a story that lets him off the hook a little more (although from today's perspective an unintended discharge that results in a death caused by someone untrained attempting the manual of arms with a working weapon in front of a party crowd is still very poor gun safety and negligent). Daniel Case (talk) 05:34, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differing account of accidental shooting 

message: * Oppose - Never mind popularity and usage. Problems are the name itself and the significance of all people of the same name. The II/so-called primary guy here worked for the United Nations as the U.S. Ambassador and was an unsuccessful presidential candidate. But I don't see how II is more significant than his grandfather Adlai Stevenson I, who was the Vice President of the United States, which is a significant occupation as an Ambassador, or more than that. Well, obviously, III and IV aren't more popular and significant. Nevertheless, I is more significant than II, but II is more popular. Still, disambiguation is enough. Secondly, I haven't heard of the name until I stumbled upon this page and cleaned up the mess. But familiarity itself is not more important than the meaning of the name. Should the base name "Adlai Stevenson" refer to solely the Ambassador (popularity) or the Vice President (significant)? United Nations holds many nations and tries peace on them, and is located at NYC, and is international. The White House is big landmark in Washington, DC. II's career was worldwide, and I's was domestic. But even major events, like Cuban Missile Crisis, don't make one person more notable than the other. George Ho (talk) 00:39, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Adlai Stevenson: Citizen of the World by Bill Severn - Page 23, and Almost President: The Men Who Lost the Race but Changed the Nation  By Scott Farris. page 164 give rather different accounts to what is confidently stated in the WP article page here. So does the text of ref 10 a NYT article (KILLED IN STEVENSON HOME.; Girl Shot Accidentally by Former Vice President's Grandson) too. It seems the rifle was his brother's .22 hunting rifle and a repeater that Stevenson  brought out for an older boy, not Stevenson,  to demonstrate drill during a party. The older boy supposedly checked it was unloaded, but there was a faulty spring that left a cartridge. After the boy was through demonstrating drill, Stevenson took the gun and by some accounts pointed the gun at the girl. It doesn't say how it came to go off at that moment(another faulty spring perhaps) but she was shot in the forehead. According to Adlai Stevenson And The Killing Of Ruth Merwin some said Stevenson was aiming the gun at Miss Merwin from a balcony when it went off. Overagainst (talk) 02:42, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  How he shot dead Ruth Merwin 

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message: The burial place of national figures is highly variable, and may be a primary point of interest for a brief visitor to an article. E.g., William Jennings Bryan, like Stevenson, was nominated by the Democratic Party more than once for President. He was born in Illinois, but like most people, I associate him with Nebraska.  So where is he buried?  Arlington.  If the mausoleum was not itself so famous, few would guess that the Ohio born Illinois resident Ulysses Grant, who won the Civil War and became President would be buried in Manhattan.  In my most humble opinion, given that some people skim articles quickly, for us to add a few words to the caption of his grave is hardly bad editing.  --Unschool 15:22, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grave caption 

message: St. Georges Hospital, it is now in Tooting but in 1965 it was at Hyde Park Corner before moving to Tooting in 1980's. It would have been the nearest major hospital to Grosvener Sq.
It may be of interest that President Johnson held Adlia in such high esteem that he sent Vice Pres. Hubert Humphrey to London to collect the body and escort it back to America. I know as I was part of the Police escort that collected the V.P. from Heathrow 77.97.36.28 (talk) 08:39, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  St. Georges Hospital 

message: What is the source for the suggestion that Stevenson was offered this role in advance by Kennedy?  Arthur M. Schlesinger in his work, "A Thousand Days" page 25-26 (First Mariner Books edition, 2002) explicitly says that Kennedy didn't offer the State Department to Stevenson at the meeting. Wikley (talk) 14:04, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  1960 campaign - offer of Secretary of State role by Kennedy