Talk:HMS Surprise (replica ship)

message: Update needed.  Did it sail in March or April 2007? --Dj245 19:12, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sails again

message: Rose (ship) → Surprise (ship) – Ship  has been officially reregistered by the San Diego Maritime Museum Laylaholic 15:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That is just a statement that the ship is now "known" as Surprise and does not prove that the ship Rose has "officially" been renamed Surprise. If you go to San Diego you may well see signs that the ship is called Surprise, but what is the name on her US government registration papers? Dabbler 00:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked with Bill Kayser, the webmaster of www.tallshiprose.org and he informed me that he did not know for certain that it had "officially been changed", he had heard it second hand through the grapevine. Perhaps the MMSD will be able to tell us. Dabbler 15:06, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose move.  The above comes in the category of inadmissible no original research, but that isn't the biggest problem.  Our Wikipedia:Naming conventions are not based on some notion of "official name".  This article should be under the name it is known by, in connection with what makes it notable and worthy of an encyclopedia entry in the first place.  Gene Nygaard 10:17, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I have had unofficial contact with a museum official who infoermed me that while the Museum considers her to be called HMS Surprise, in fact the official US government registry may still refer to her as Rose. Can anyone find out what the official name is rather than what the Museum wishes to call her? The statement above from the museum is not conclusive in my opinion, I would like to see a definitive reference to an official US government document. Dabbler 19:21, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: Add "* Support" or "* Oppose" followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
*Support if there's a cite showing she was renamed. Otherwise we're just taking someone's word for it. --SigPig 17:49, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: For proof of name change, check www.tallshiprose.org "Now renamed Surprise in honor of her role in the film..." Laylaholic 21:21, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That is just a statement that the ship is now "known" as Surprise and does not prove that the ship Rose has "officially" been renamed Surprise. If you go to San Diego you may well see signs that the ship is called Surprise, but what is the name on her US government registration papers? Dabbler 00:04, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked with Bill Kayser, the webmaster of www.tallshiprose.org and he informed me that he did not know for certain that it had "officially been changed", he had heard it second hand through the grapevine. Perhaps the MMSD will be able to tell us. Dabbler 15:06, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose move.  The above comes in the category of inadmissible no original research, but that isn't the biggest problem.  Our Wikipedia:Naming conventions are not based on some notion of "official name".  This article should be under the name it is known by, in connection with what makes it notable and worthy of an encyclopedia entry in the first place.  Gene Nygaard 10:17, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I have had unofficial contact with a museum official who infoermed me that while the Museum considers her to be called HMS Surprise, in fact the official US government registry may still refer to her as Rose. Can anyone find out what the official name is rather than what the Museum wishes to call her? The statement above from the museum is not conclusive in my opinion, I would like to see a definitive reference to an official US government document. Dabbler 19:21, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

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