Talk:Decimation (comics)

message: Have they officially been called mutants during Claremont's run of Uncanny X-Men?  I seriously do not recall this being stated and Wikipedia has been the only source I've seen that uses this information.  71.51.39.83 (talk) 04:39, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: First Foursaken

message: Archer wasn't necessarily confirmed powered, was he?  I know that in Endangered Species Beast noticed a trend, but was it confirmed a clear-cut rule and was he ever mentioned? 76.0.91.153 (talk) 16:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Archer

message: Where was this character revealed to be powered and living at the school?  I keep seeing him (?) listed in various articles as powered and residing at the school. Granted, I've stopped reading New X-Men, but have not heard anything about this character recently. Breakaway 07:17, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Eosimias (comics)

message: After checking through New X-Men #24 over and over, I did NOT see characters E-Shock, Jet Storm, and Time Master appear in it. M.Factor 04:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-existent New X-Men characters 

message: Just changing the Wolverine comic link from the wolverine animal link to the Wolverine comic link. Whispering 21:26, 18 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wolverine 

message: First of all, noone screwed it up, this is taken from a official Marvel list.
Second, I have noticed that on every page that the House of M, M-Day, or Decimation are mention a differnt pecentage of mutants losing their powers is used, is there one official number that should be being used on all of them?-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by  Madhackrviper (talk • contribs) -- 21 April 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by Madhackrviper (talk • contribs) 01:01 21 April, 2006
:Yes, the number of mutants left is 198.-- —Preceding unsigned comment added by  70.242.135.113 (talk • contribs) -- 8 May 2006 (UTC)—Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.242.135.113 (talk • contribs) 19:47 May 8, 2006
::Wrongo, it has been mention numerous times as an "innacuurate number". Plus, I was talking about the percentage, not the bumer, I've see nthe percentage range from 90-99% --Madhackrviper 23:14, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A response and a problem 

message: Or perhaps a publication order (this one I can do myself).  I've searched long and hard checking if there is an order I'm supposed to go in.. Nothing.  The marvel site is really a piece of trash, so it's not bee much help.  
Also, I added the X-Factor 1-4 in the Decimation line, as it was missing.
--Cryptik 19:49, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Would it be possible to add in a reading order? 

message: This article is a mess- especialy the 198 list!  Where have Eosimias, Gregor Smyrdiakov, or "the SHIELD Psi-Agents" reappear?  There are no sources!  Can we organize this like depowered list?-Merlin Storm
::It needs to be mostly deleted because it's inaccurate and uncited. --Chris Griswold 00:15, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What a mess....

message: Please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#"Factual" Lists, e.g. X-Men: The 198 Files for details. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 09:02, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed the 198 list 

message: Hi
I was wondering if both Felicia Hardy and the Owl should be included in the confirmed mutants section since both are mutants.  Though Felicia is a latent mutant who under went a process to "release" her bad luck powers.  The Owl though is a mutant.  Just thought I'd ask before adding them.
Thanks
RIANZ 23:45, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Felicia Hardy and the Owl 

message: I thinks it is too bad that the powered section was changed. Listing the issue in which they were reaveled powered next to them (à la depowered) would make the list clearer. And by the way Asp isn't a mutant.
Man, all this hard work and dedication to creating such a really nice list, its going to be so sad when the status quo is returned.--Mullon 04:49, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually Asp is a mutant.  Check out her profile on Marvel.com. RIANZ 00:27, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too bad 

message: Just wondering whether or not the notes really should be there since some of them do conflict with the articles of the characters eg Asp and Owl (both articles state they are mutants) or just revert to how the list was at years end. RIANZ 00:34, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Notes with the Confirmed. 

message: Ultra Girl is a mutant Kree and thus the x-factor gene is likely not part of her genetic makeup. In the Marvel Universe you must have an active x-factor gene to be considered a mutant.
Also, Wiccan and Speed are not confirmed to actually be mutants so I don't really think they belong here.
I forgot, Cloak and Dagger *aren't* mutants. They normal humans who were given powers after being given drugs laced with mutant growth hormone. Technically, they are *mutates* in the same vain as Spider-Man and the Hulk. Since they got their powers from drugs rather than the natural activation of the x-gene, they're not mutants in the Decimation sense.
:Since when were Fenris not considered mutants?  I have right in front of me Generation X '96 Annual, in which Andrea tells Andreas they need to get away from Synch because "when you and I are together, our mutant powers are activa--."  She is then cut off by an explosion caused by Synch mimicking their powers.  Not only do we have dialogue confirmation from Andrea herself, but was Synch ever shown to mimic a non-mutant? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.31.88.160 (talk) 03:28, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not Really Mutants 

message: Has it been confirmed that Scarlet Witch still has her powers? Or that Kimura is a mutant and not enhanced by some other means?
Also, while Namor is traditionally called "the first mutant" he gets his powers from being half Atlantian. Not from the x-factor gene. He is, actually, an Atlantean mutant which is not the same as the standard Marvel Universe mutant.
: I'm not sure if he's even an Atlantean Mutant. He is certainly a hybrid, and for all we know EVERY cross-breed between humans and Atlanteans result in individuals with his powers (which would make a pretty interesting What if? story, or an Exiles story). That holds true with Namorita and Namora; although, it could be that it only works with Namor's royal family's lineage. Rosencomet (talk) 01:55, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confirmed? 

message: Isn't Shiro still a mutant? It was never shown or revealed that he lost his powers due to Wanda's Hosue of M effect. He had lost his powers because Rogue basically "drained" him in her last mini-series and the next time we see him, he's being recruited by Apocalypse. 
In this sense, he still has the X-Gene, unlike Polaris who lost hers. This is what makes Sunfire a mutant still. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Volk006 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sunfire 

message: Whoever keeps adding Harpoon to the list of confirmed mutants, don't. He was confirmed depowered in New Avengers #18. And Vertigo isn't a mutant at all, she's a savage land mutate. Just because they're in the Marauders group does not mean they're mutants. Sinister himself is a mutate, and not a mutant, so there's no reason why you should assume everyone in the group must be a mutant. --156.34.91.97 10:27, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Marauders 

message: Mentallo is to be considered deceased for now. In the Super-Villain Team-Up: MODOK's 11 limited series he was shown blasted and incinerated by the Ultra-Adaptoid. After said incineration he landed face down in a river, and stayed there, motionless. No one without a healing factor could survive that level of burn, and if by chance he did, there's no way someone could stay conscious during said incineration, so when he hit the water (if he wasn't already dead) he would have drowned. See images: here(1) and here(2) --Venomaru 2.0 19:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mentallo 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Sunfire decimation.png

message: The Order #8 shows that Mulholland Black was a mutant who lost her powers on M-Day. In that same issue she gets her powers back.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skyrocket (talk • contribs) 23:13, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Mulholland Black

message: Wouldn't Molly Hayes, of the Runaways series, as well as her parents, be still-powered mutants and thus belong on the list? Torca (talk) 03:39, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Edit: I see her now under Bruiser (should that really be what she's listed under?), but not the parents. Torca (talk) 05:08, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Molly Hayes? 

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replies: text: Done - it passes (although it did need an infobox, which I just added). (Emperor (talk) 02:51, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Comics B-Class Assesment required

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thread_title:  Image issues 

message: Shouldn't the confirmed list include those that have gotten their powers back, like Professor X, Polaris, Pietro, etc? (and what's with all the "p"s?) 
And how can Franklin Richards be included? Weren't his powers burned out before the Decimation? Or was it after? He doesn't seem to have any now... but you never can tell about that. If he does, he's powerful enough to bring everyone's back, if he's motivated right.Rosencomet (talk) 01:59, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Confirmed List

message: NIET levend, noch is zij bevestigde dat nog steeds een mutant. Wat is onlangs verschenen in de pagina's van Uncanny X-Men is NIET Maddie, maar slechts de essentie van de Goblin Queen op zoek naar een ontvangende instantie, zoals wordt bevestigd door de schrijver Matt Fraction zichzelf. Ga naar karakter Madelyne's pagina voor de link en bevestiging. Dus, voor de gebruikers die ervoor zorgen met inbegrip van haar in de lijst; stoppen.68.49.68.231 (talk) 22:57, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since when?  Numerous times I've seen editings on this site changed around due to an outside interview with the writers of the stories.  What's the thing editors always push around?  Notability or looking for outside sources?  Or just plain old references.  I know that many editors always push that stuff.  I'm using actual references in my argument here, you're using your opinion.  What does wiki support more; references.  Anyway, you have no proof that the writer was just "kidding around".  He stated what she was in a very matter of fact way, so you have no "proof" that he was lying or telling half-truths, that's your opinion on the kind of person he is and wiki doesn't deal in opinions.  This is a reference until you can find something where he says that he was just kidding around with that explanation.  Even looking at past interviews, Fraction constantly says or hints "Who says that's really?"  Well, he just answered it for readers right there.  Also, when the article is essentially a mixed Q&A type of interview there is no "main topic".  It's a very bare-bones argument, and considering the writer explanation is the only thing that people have to go on, it should be taken as the truth until proven otherwise.  Do that, and I'll let the matter go, but drop the sarcastic tone with all the italics, and find something that contradicts what he says.68.49.68.231 (talk) 13:59, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medellin Prien 

message: So what actually happened on "M-Day"? Who is the Scarlet Witch, and how come she "depowered" most of the mutants? Some plot explanation for non-obsessives would be nice! This is supposedly a pivotal moment in the Marvel/X-Men universe, but the article gives hardly any description, concentrating on extensive and tedious lists instead. Fences&Windows 20:47, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I believe that is explained in the House of M article, the story arch in which in actually happened. The Decimation story archs are about the aftermath of House of M. Since, this is mentioned in the intro, along with a wiki-link to the House of M article, there's no real reason to list it again on this page.24.190.34.219 (talk) 23:12, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Er

message: I'm just curious, why is Malice part of this list? When she came back, it was technically a digital copy based on her. Not a mutant at all.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Jay89 (talk • contribs) 04:39, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Malice 

message: I'm looking for some feedback here.  From my understanding, after M-Day, 95 or so percent of mutants lost there X-Gene, including previously deceased mutants.  Now in the ongoing Necrosha crossover, Selene and Eli Bard are reviving dead mutants to help their cause.  Is it just me or does the resurrection of these dead mutants pose a problem?  I had read that even dead mutants X-Genes simply vanished after decimation, yet we have numerous mutants being revived by the transmode virus and they have their mutant powers intact.  Unless these dead mutants didn't lose their X-Genes after death like others did after The Decimation there seems to be an issue going on here...
Drunknesmonsta (talk) 01:56, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does Anyone See A Problem With Decimation and Necrosha? 

message: I keep seeing this pop up on this page, Gargouille's page and Predator X's page. People keep listing her as dead and claiming she was one of Predator X's victims back in Uncanny X-Men 518. This is not true as Gargouille and the mutant girl from Uncanny X-Men 518 look nothing a like. Gargouille has grey hair, grey skin, large horns, wings, talons and is French. The mutant girl is blonde, blue skin and is an American; she even says so herself. To support my argument, look at this picture http://www.comicbookresources.com/prev_img.php?pid=3955&pg=2 and compare it to the one her Gargouille's wikipage. They look nothing a like which means Gargouille's last appearence was during Messiah Complex with the rest of the former Acolytes.
Mr Jay89 (talk) 12:22, 05 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status of Gargouille 

message: Since another poster seems bound and determined to revert, and I don't want an edit war. Currently the entry reads that Wiz Kid is "mysteriously repowered" in Avengers Academy, after a SHIELD database revealed he was supposedly depowered back in New Avengers #18 when it appeared to detect his mutant energy signature within the Collective. The writer of Avengers Academy has posted online that the character's powers allow him to manipulate technology, and that Wiz Kid used those powers to "fly under the radar" - e.g. he fooled the devices that said he was depowered. This means that he was not "mysteriously repowered" as it appears he was never depowered to begin with. Granted, the writer worded it as an opinion, but this is the writer of the book the character is appearing in, so his opinion on resolving the apparent conflict between being reported depowered and being seen with powers intact count more than most. Why is it wrong to note what he said here? We're not talking about saying "this is definitely what happened" before a comic outright states it one way or another, but simply including it as part of the overall entry - "one comic says this, another contradicts it, and the writer of the second comic has said..." What is incorrect in that? As opposed to saying it is a "mysterious repowering" when the alleged mystery has been given an explanation by the person who did the repowering. The current statement is incorrect. 109.152.147.88 (talk) 06:38, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wiz Kid - request for discussion 

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