Talk:Evangelical Free Church of America

message: I've taken the liberty of changing the classification from protestant to baptistic.  While there were protestant groups to join with the E free church, its origins are not connected with the catholic church.  Thus, it is not protestant.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.33.221.138 (talk) 17:49, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Classification

message: I've added the Evangelical Free Church of America to the List of Christian denominations as Protestant list under "Misc. movement churches". I'm not sure if there is a better place to put them, and perhaps someone who is more familiar with them can make a better decision. I have a more detailed statement about this on Talk:List of Christian denominations. - Rlvaughn 02:24, 5 Jan 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: No changes have been made yet - that section is referring to proposed changes to the denomination's Statement of Faith.  --Tim4christ17 13:15, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Notes

message: While I appreciate any WikiProject wanting to help out with an article, it should be noted that the EFCA is not a Calvinist church, but is inclusive of both Armenians and Calvinists.  (See our distinctives.)  --Tim4christ17 talk 09:37, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WP Calvinism? 

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 14:02, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: I am removing Wayne Grudem and D. A. Carson as EFCA leaders. Grudem was ordained Baptist General Conference and was an elder at a Vineyard Church while at TEDS.
(See http://www.vineyardbi.org/docs/INTROS/INTRO-Position_Paper_4.pdf). D. A. Carson was ordained in the Fellowship of Evangelical Baptist Churches in Canada.
Elnwood (talk) 23:26, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  TEDS Professors not necessarily EFCA 

message: The word "Free" in the title "Evangelical Free Church" is a reference to separation of church and state.  I has it's origins in the European Free Church traditions which are legally recognized, but alternative traditions to the state sponsored churches found in much of Europe.  In particular, the Lutheran churches of Norway and Sweden had developments which occasioned the rise of non-state sponsored church congregations, giving rise to the Evangelical Free Churches of Norway and Sweden respectively.
See Christ Community Congregational Evangelical Free Church <http://www.cccefc.org/id1.html>  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.1.200.56 (talk) 16:51, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No, not really. "Separation of church and state" is a loaded phrase that has come to mean much more than when Thomas Jefferson originally coined it. (See <https://www.loc.gov/loc/lcib/9806/danpre.html>. Note that Jefferson's "wall" was like a one-way wall; the only point of his metaphor was that the State should be prevented from interfering with religious practice, but he said nothing to the effect that churches and religious beliefs should not influence political ideas.) The denomination's name does not intend all the meanings and implications currently associated with it. It simply means that the church is free from the control of and association with the state, as opposed to a state church. It does NOT mean that its members have no desire that their religious beliefs should inform their public values, which extend into politics and government. The EFCA makes no statement denying that its members should reason from their worldviews, informed by the Bible, in order to make convictions and conclusions about political issues. From <https://www.efca.org/resources/document/theological-definitions-positions>: "What does the “free” mean in Evangelical Free Church? The term “Free” has two meanings. First, in reference to history, it refers to the fact that in Europe, the Free Church was free from the state church control. Second, in reference to theology, it refers to our local church polity in that each local church is autonomous, i.e. free from ecclesiastical and hierarchical control." Holy (talk) 18:22, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaning of "Free" in Evangelical "Free" Church Title 

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