Talk:1988 Malaysian constitutional crisis

message: The neutrality of this article can be disputed  — [Unsigned .]
:State which section and let's work it out. __earth (Talk) 09:02, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: well first the article contains weasel words.. (eg. many believed...) WHO? YOU? ME?
and gross generalization (eg. ... the end of judicial independence...). REALLLYY??? 
as for mahathir, is there any citation/proof that he is actually not fond of the judiciary (eg. mahathir says "i hate the judiciary")? just because certain cases was decided against him, doesn't make him un-fond of the judiciary. i think that the "not fond" adjective should not be used at all, let the facts in the article speak for itself.
as for the "constitutional amendments" section (...to initiate criminal proceedings... high court... w/o magistrates court..), there is a need to say why the parliament introduced that bill (according to the parliament) and why the supreme court rejected it (see case files).
this article generally lacks neutrality MAINLY because:
it does not represent any ideas, opinions and justifications of mahathir, his cabinet, the parliament, at that time, about the things they did.. example, mahathir wasn't content that the judiciary kept interfering with executive power; which of course, is a valid argument. just as the judiciary needs to be independent from interfering hands, so does the legislative, and the executive. whether the counter argument is right or wrong, is not important. it is important to represent the other side of the story. wiki is apolitical.
one example of how the judiciary interfered with legislative body - some judges refuse to judge cases involving the death penalty. of course, some judges might have moral issues meting out the death penalty. however, it is part of the job, and if they refuse to judge it (or give other punishments not according to the law), it amounts to interference! MY POINT: judges don't make laws. they apply them. they only make laws (by precedence) if other written sources of the law is silent about the issue. if they contradict the written law, they make new laws, and thus, they interfere. 
the other reason: this article lacks variety of citations. the most cited work was by gordon means. and some from malaysiakini. the pro government sources were used to support the case against mahathir. what about the articles from utusan/nst/the star etc which supported mahathir's moves? i'm very much sure that some people do actually agree with him. the wikipedian's job is to tell us why.. from both sides.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Zaid Ibrahim (talk • contribs) 14:16, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: not neutral

message: I have removed the NPOV tag as the dispute has grown stagnant, and the section in question appears to be neutral. If the dispute arises again, contact me before re-adding the NPOV tag.Drew Smith 05:54, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV tag 

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* http://www.malaysia-today.net/Blog-n/2006/09/sallehs-case-is-closed.htm
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* http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Friday/Frontpage/20080418110132/Article/index_html
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