Talk:Joual

message: As noted in the article, "joual" is attested before WW2, in the deprecatory sense of corrupt, uneducated Quebec French. The word itself refers to a pronunciation so foreign to what was believed to be standard French, that the link to the spelling was half lost (joual --> ? cheval). The spoken or unspoken implication was that this was the speech of illiterates. 
Around the time Desbiens got on his horse, however, the context changed. People were literate, but they still spoke joual. The automatic deprecatory intent was put into question when, soon after, Michel Tremblay came out with Les Belles-Soeurs. Phranger 00:29, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the word, "joual" 

message: Unless it was verrrrry recently adopted by either the académie of the OLF (as in the last 5 years I`ve been away from Montréal), pantry is *not* french. I looked online at various dictionaries and can`t find it. What did you based your removal on ? --Marc pasquin 18:18, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The OLF has nothing to do with joual as it is not formally codified.--Shawa666 (talk) 01:42, 4 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of Pantry 

message: To dial or push buttons. Is this Joual? I don't remember where or how I learned this word. Perhaps I made it up?
Another (from my mother, the interior designer): keten (or kéten, qéten - actual spelling is unclear) Pendragon39 06:26, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You should remember that not all Quebec French is joual. I'm pretty sure both pitonner and quétaine are already in the Quebec French lexicon article.--Boffob 15:49, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, quétaine is there :) Pendragon39 17:42, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pitonner 

message: While the vast majority of this article is uncited, there is one assertion that deserves some confirmation.   The list of English loan words has "Fucker le chien", which, to a non-speaker, looks like "to fuck the dog".  While its definition looks like this phrase could be genuine, the phrase itself looks spurious.  Could someone confirm the veracity of this phrase?    ++Arx Fortis (talk) 01:20, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: as odd as its sound, its true.--Marc pasquin (talk) 20:26, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  verification of loan words 

message: The article Quebec French claims this word is perjorative. Is it or not? NorthernThunder (talk) 09:44, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Perjoriative? 

message: What about "blounde"?  Slang of:  'blonde' or 'blond', as in: girlfriend.  Example:  "...i' s'en va'ncore avec sa blounde, tabernouche..." ( = "...he's going out again with his girlfriend, dammit...", like when you are hoping to watch hockey Saturday night with your buddies and one of your gang instead seems to prefer to go out with his new girlfriend -- again -- instead of hanging with his 'homies' to watch the game, thereby proving that she is starting to bust up the sacred circle of you and your 'guy-buddies' and ...... ah but I digress).
Anyway, what about 'blounde'?  I don't know if I am spelling that correct, but any francophone guy knows that that means girlfriend.  Because 'blondes' are kind of rare amongst Catholics (ie, French and Irish in Quebec and Northeastern Ontario and New Brunswick and St-Boniface), so the word 'blonde' -- where blonde girls are more likely to be Protestant -- really hits home as defining a 'girlfriend'.
Another way to think of it is that:  "blounde"  ~=  "shiksa".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atikokan (talk • contribs) 03:14, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:   English loanwords -- add:       "blounde" 

message: Today, many Québécois who were raised in Quebec during the last century (command of English notwithstanding) can understand and speak at least some joual.[citation needed]
Every Québécois raised in any part of Quebec can understand joual.  It is in fact the causal language that most people speak even at work or at any other place.  It ain't really perceived as uneducated anymore to speak joual.  I think that citation needed sign should be removed.  Joual is well-known in Québec and even communally spoken on national television on varieties show. For that reason, I'll remove the Citation needed mark.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.22.160.143 (talk) 07:45, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  About that citation needed...