Talk:Kryptos

message: It might be helpful to include the actual text on kryptos.  Does anyone have it/know a source? I guess a picture of the statue itself is verifiable and secondary enough =)  131.151.26.179 (talk) 00:23, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is the text: http://elonka.com/kryptos/transcript.html --Bothary (talk) 20:01, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have inserted the text into the article. — DAGwyn (talk) 05:17, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

text: The name of the sculpture is Kryptos. — DAGwyn (talk) 14:08, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual Kryptos Text 

message: Removal of links due to reasons provided would require removal of ALL current links.  The links re-re-re-added include those that offer
additional information on the subject matter.  Removal requires justification.Beckonamist (talk) 00:48, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: Ms. Monet Friedrich is referred to in the article as 'Monet', which by my understanding is her first name. Shouldn't she be referred to by her last name? 184.76.44.118 (talk) 05:52, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ms. Monet Friedrich 

message: Reading the deciphered text, it probably points to a time capsule buried nearby.  Anyone got info on this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.88.74 (talk) 09:36, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Many have considered that possibility, which seems indicated by the mention of "underground" and the coordinates.  There is an issue of what "datum" was used for the coordinates.  I looked at the indicated location using one datum, but didn't find any evidence of access to a vault.  Using another datum, the coordinates refer to a loading dock, which should have an associated drain and maybe a basement.  It's kind of hard to just walk in and start searching! — 71.179.92.145 (talk) 03:14, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Probably a time capsule 

message: yahoo groups tag was removed because that is not defining for this article. Kryptos is first and foremost a sculpture. The existence of a yahoo group which discusses it does not make Kryptos a yahoo group.--KarlB (talk) 18:59, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  yahoo groups 

message: AsfarassongwritersIvealwaysbeenafanofIrvingBerlinColePorterandGeorgeGershwinthoseguysmeanalottome  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jensyao (talk • contribs) 00:45, 13 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That can't be right, since "Berlin" is not followed by "clock". — DAGwyn (talk) 09:07, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  97 character solution to the fourth section 

message: http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2013/07/11/nsa_cracked_kryptos_statue_before_the_cia.html Gamaliel (talk) 19:07, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Gamaliel - I've added a couple of sentences about this latest development. PhilKnight (talk) 21:53, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  You guys should probably know about this 

message: The subject episode of the "King of Queens" does indeed have what appears to be a photograph of the Kryptos sculpture to the left of the doorway in the apartment which serves as the main set for this episode. But the assertion that "Much of the dialog is centered around it" is incorrect. In fact, NO dialog is centered around it ... it is NEVER discussed or even mentioned in the episode.  I'm not sure whether this comment meant that the characters talk ABOUT the sculpture or its picture, or that the characters, when speaking, are in the vicinity of the picture. Nonetheless, the photo is rarely visible in the episode, so either assertion is misleading.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.225.16.201 (talk) 11:15, 9 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pop Culture References: The King of Queens Season 2 Episode "Meet By-Product" 

message: Its a copy of a letter that means something to one person, it has no other meaning to any one else, is there any reason why I can't see it  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.164.74.34 (talk) 16:57, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not clear what you're asking.  The K4 ciphertext is given in the article, and to date nobody has figured out the corresponding plaintext. — DAGwyn (talk) 09:07, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  K4 remains publicly unsolved 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Prompt where it is possible to report the full unraveling of the cipher of the monument in front of the CIA ? (Ark)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.33.209.58 (talk) 21:09, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The sculptor's Web page contains information about submitting claimed solutions for verification; unless you use that procedure, there is no reason to take a proposed solution seriously.  As to holding some kind of news conference "in front of the CIA", you need to check with the CIA's Public Affairs Office.  — DAGwyn (talk) 09:07, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kryptos 

message: §12.164.74.34 (talk) 23:15, 23 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps, but in Wikipedia's world, if it hasn't been published, it didn't happen. :) See WP:V. --Elonka 01:14, 16 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  There is a procedure for having the sculptor verify a supposed solution to K4, described in http://jimsanborn.net/kryptos_fees.pdf — unless a claimed solution has been submitted to this vetting process, we have no reason to take it seriously.  If somebody does submit the correct solution, it is almost certain that Jim Sanborn would issue a news release, and we'd probably see it announced in major news media.  — DAGwyn (talk) 08:45, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  someone who forgot 

message: I edited the article to make it more readable.
Added links to the GSA webpages about the various projects, including Kryptos, they commissioned to JIm Sanborn.
There is an issue with the all uppercase for the solution sections which cluebot interpretes as "shouting".
Unfortunelately cluebot sees this as vandalism  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.86.152.79 (talk) 11:43, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good faith edit 

message: The CIA is a master when it comes to keeping secrets but how well can they get the word out, how far, in what amount of time and in the correct version, and how to make it people believe it.
— 108.16.233.162 (talk) 17:30, 12 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  how do you get the word out-  marketing techniques 

message: There is some disagreement as to how best to phrase the text in the "Solution of passage 4".  I'm backing off, and leaving it to you all to figure out.  97.82.193.208 (talk) 11:52, 18 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Best way to phrase Section 4 

message: For some reason, the stone gives me a reason to bring up stone soup. It came to me in a dream of a diamond and gold vein crusted cavern of rocks you could only see under a black light. As someone says a albeit, very popular phrase to me. Something along the lines of "well how about that, you don't say" the veins of gold and diamond-crusted rocks disappeared from the cavern. Here's an external link to stone soup: Stone Soup  174.240.1.108 (talk) 22:13, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  A possible clue to a work of missing art? 

message: [This is regarding some dubious tags I places on the section about mistakes]  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skintigh (talk • contribs) 18:26, 31 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that the "ENDYAHROH" ciphertext contains 3 or maybe more "displaced" characters, in both the CIA sculpture and the models, so Sanborn treats that feature as intended. — DAGwyn (talk) 17:36, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

text: The following are all dubious speculation. — DAGwyn (talk) 17:36, 5 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistakes 

message: One line claims "X LAYER TWO," which is already plaintext, is deciphered (again?) into plaintext "PLAYER TWO" by rotating the key. But plaintext does not need to be deciphered. There seems to be an assumption the X is ciphertext, but if that were in the ciphertext then you wouldn't need to rotate a key if you insert the X so that doesn't make sense. There is no evidence the ciphertext of the letter was supposed to be X, only the plaintext.
The line "It was intentional that WESTIDBYROWS was discovered at a later stage by following a clue to manipulate the letter (or numeral) X" is not supported by the citation. Sanborn has said the missing X was an error, not intentional. There is no evidence of any intention for it be discovered in a later stage. There is no evidence later stages show how to correct this error. There is no evidence it is a numeral (I believe Sanborn has implied, if not said, that the X and Q are punctuation).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skintigh (talk • contribs) 07:53, 11 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious "LAYERTWO" claims 

message: Tôi có thể giải mã tất cả các bức khắc họa trong vòng 16h00' .  ( chinhseoul - tên : NGUYỄN VĂN CHINH  - đến từ quốc gia : VIỆT NAM  ! ) biết chính xác Chinhseoul (talk) 05:57, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is a rough translation: I can decipher all the depictions within 16h00'. (Chinhseoul - name: NGUYEN VAN CHINH - from country: VIETNAM!) know exactly — Chinhseoul
I never buy the NYTimes...never...but low and behold I bought it this morning and there was a full page regarding a new clue...Northeast  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:49:4300:C680:20CD:9F9F:9108:D0BE (talk) 17:39, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Code - chinhseoul 

message: Method: Beaufort Auto-key
:::::In the center of this city, east, northeast, from Rotes Rathaus chimes from the Berlin clock are heard across the square.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.142.130.94 (talk) 15:32, 29 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The foregoing plaintext fits all the current clues, although the punctuation (not considered part of the plaintext) could be improved: ", east-northeast from Rotes Rathaus,".  Whether the method is correct needs to be verified; in particular we need to know the tableau (the "KRYPTOS" keyword doesn't seem to work).  The originator hasn't left us much information; one can use https://www.findip-address.com/ to see what we know about IP address 167.142.130.94.  It may be coming through Canada, and there is a slight chance that Moscow was involved.  Whoever he is, if his method is genuine then he should contact Jim Sanborn to stake a claim. — DAGwyn (talk) 14:36, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  kryptos k4 

message: The Description section of this article ends with a paragraph that starts out with "The one-word hint ..." but then failed to mention what this hint is. The paragraph also fails WP:NPOV and failed to cite sources. I have moved the paragraph here as I'm not familiar enough with the subject matter to restructure it into something that is usable in the Description section of the article which is mostly about the works of art by Jim Sanborn found on the CIA campus.
: The one-word hint—a decryption of letters 26 through 34—is the third and final clue Sanborn is willing to pass.  The other two clues—“clock” and “Berlin,” liberated in 2010 and 2014, therefore—sit back-to-back at positions 64 through 69 and 70 through 74.
--Marc Kupper|talk 19:49, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The one-word hint? 

message: Is steganography used as method? Therealtwo (talk) 15:23, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is steganography used as method? 

message: THEBEACONSOFHOPELIEEASTNORTHEASTOFBERLINCLOCK  David Condrey  log talk  07:38, 19 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  K4 

message: Bringing things to the surface 65.242.22.130 (talk) 16:38, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Surfacing