Talk:Oskar Dirlewanger

message: The article is mostly made up with sensationalist factoids from dubious sources, please get better ones. --105.237.45.74 (talk) 13:08, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Please give a better argument. The sources seem fine, with the possible exception of the "popular culture" section, which is to be expected. Paul B (talk) 16:43, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious Sources 

message: Currently reads: "..exhumation of Dirlewanger's corpse to confirm his identity in November 1960.[14][38]" - but was it confirmed? How? And later: "The place of his burial was confirmed..." Hmm, odd wording, and "...although it was liquidated later." What? Flooded perhaps? It would be nice if anyone with access to the referenced sources could re-word this more clearly. Snori (talk) 21:22, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Death

message: The age of consent in the Germany at the time was 14, so the reference to statutory rape doesn't make sense. An earlier version of this article gave the girl's age as 13 and the crime simply as rape. If you look at the German Wikipedia article you'll also find the age given as 13:
  'Im Jahr 1934 wurde er wegen der Vergewaltigung eines dreizehnjährigen Mädchens und wegen Belästigung weiterer minderjähriger Mädchen zu zwei Jahren Zuchthaus verurteilt (Urteil des LG Heilbronn vom 21. September 1934)'. See: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oskar_Dirlewanger#Zeit_des_Nationalsozialismus  Norvo (talk) 20:28, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Statutory rape? 

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message: Note that the photo of Dirlewanger shows him wearing the Nahkampfspange (translates into English as "close combat clasp") above his left pocket. The Nahkampfspange awarded for "close combat," in theory hand-to-hand combat or close to it. To qualify for the lowest of the three grades of the clasp ("bronze") it was necessary to have fought at least 15 such battles (sometimes counted as 15 days). To earn "silver" required a minimum of 25, and "gold" required at least 50. 23:25, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards  

message: This entry claims that "In Warsaw, Dirlewanger participated in the Wola massacre, together with police units rounding up and shooting some 40,000 civilians, most of them in just two days. In the same Wola district, Dirlewanger burned three hospitals with patients inside, while the nurses were "whipped, gang-raped and finally hanged naked, together with the doctors" to the accompaniment of the popular song "In München steht ein Hofbräuhaus".
This statement is incorrect and misleading. The Wola carnage took place on August 5-7. Dirlewanger was not in command at the time, and he was neither in Warsaw. Upon arrival he reported to Bach in Sochaczew on August 8, and assumed command on August 9, when Wola was already overrun.  Hence, he played no personal role in the bloodbath.
Some scholars (Hubert Kuberski) claim that he was made a scapegoat by Reinefarth, who having learnt about Dirlewanger's death, felt free to make him responsible for the Wola atrocities. Sure one might debate some indirect Direlwanger's responsibility, but clearly he neither "participated in the Wola massacre" nor "burned three hospitals". Suggest to edit the paragraph in question. If no challenge, will try myself. rgds, --2A02:A317:2144:1A80:E121:A418:9430:E7D7 (talk) 18:18, 5 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: personal role in the Wola carnage