Talk:Palaiologos

message: The structuring of this article remains a lot to be desired. Particularly the long rant under the subheading is somehow odd. Why make almost biblical lists of descent. Emperors and minor relatives are messed into one ramble. Where are the political reasons and implications of these relationships.
Does some writer imply that the entire dynasty had one politics during its 200 years. Did it alter when emperors changed. Did the time affect in any way.217.140.193.123 19:30, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I don't know, you yourself wrote about half of that stuff... Adam Bishop 20:06, 17 July 2005 (UTC)

text: I wrote it like that in the interest of making the article less stubby, to mention all the Palaeologi I could find in the index of the book I was using, and, more importantly I suppose, to show all the other royal families they married into. My original padding could be removed without much damage, if it really distresses you so much. Adam Bishop 20:30, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
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message: I've added three SVG files of the Palaiologi Dynasty flags. Two I created a while back for the Byzantine Empire article, were taken from a heraldry book - Heraldry - Sources, Symbols and Meaning - which was, in turn, taken from the Conoscimiento de todos los Reinos, a major source of information on the flags of the fourteenth century. The other flag - with the double-headed eagle - is a more recent creation (based on various images of 14th Century depictions) Dragases 13:36, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Palaiologi Flags

message: MUST we tranliterate Βασιλεύς Βασιλέων, Βασιλεύων Βασιλευόντων with the Modern Greek 'Vasilefs Vasileon, Vasilevon Vasilevonton'? Can we use the proper academic transliteration of 'Basileus Basileōn, Basileuōn Basileuontōn'? InfernoXV  —Preceding signed but undated comment was added at 16:34, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure it was like that originally. I've changed it. Adam Bishop 19:53, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! InfernoXV 09:06, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transliterations 

message: Period - 11th century (founded) – 1678 (dissolved) - what does 1678 suppose to mean? Montferrat line died out in 16 century, but why 1678? Dorimi (talk) 01:06, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: 1678 dissolution

message: What does the name mean? Does anyone know? ahassan05
:The component words mean "old" and "word" (amongst other things), and according to, this a 15th century chronicler said it should be interpreted as "renowned of old". DeCausa (talk) 14:48, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of family name

message: Is it acceptable to use spellings other than the Greek "Palaiologos"? See for example John II, Marquess of Montferrat ("Palaiologus") and  ("Palaiologo", which I haven't seen elsewhere and might just be a typo, but is plausible in the Italian context). Context seems important. I intensely dislike seeing anything but the Greek form in the context of Byzantine emperors, but for Italian rulers it seems more reasonable. I know a move of this page has been rejected, but I'm asking about use elsewhere. Hairy Dude (talk) 23:29, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, there are three variant forms of the name in English: Palaiologos (transcribed from Greek), Palaeologus (latinized), and Palaeologue (influenced by French). All three are acceptable on account of having a long history of usage in scholarly and other English-language texts. "Palaiologus" and "Palaiologo" look odd, as they mix different forms and languages. AFAIK, the native forms in Italian (as in French) do not use the -ai-/-ae- digraph, but render it phonetically as "e": "Paleologo", "Paléologue". So in an Italian context, describing the Palaiologoi of Montferrat with "Paleologo" would be OK, but "Palaiologo" should be avoided. Constantine   ✍  17:08, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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message: Should it not be Margaret Paleologa there, instead of John George, considering she held the title suo jure?  André Anselmo (talk) 16:23, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final Palaiologos ruler of Montferrat 

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message: I am completely fine with it as i accidently did a double of my original family line i am so sorry for anyones misunderstanding 👍🏼 Diepanzerwaffles (talk) 18:15, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit done on my edit 

message: According to Steven Runciman's The Fall of Constantinople 1453 (1990), the House of Kastrioti, living today in Italy, represent the only descendants of Byzantine Emperor, Manuel II Palaiologos. This seems likely something worthy of being added. Dionysios Theotokas (talk) 17:36, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern descendants of Manuel II Palaiologos