Talk:Pran (actor)

message: hai he had some of the telugu movies which u r not added that is example kodamasimham which the hero is chiranjeevi and other some other movies r their but i not able to remember so please check that one............  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.200.11.197 (talk) 18:57, 28 January 2012 (UTC)
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message: He's alive. Plz. stop pronouncing him dead or I'll ask the wikipedia to block edits to this page
--59.90.179.156 (talk) 09:14, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I also agree that many IPs (not you though) kept changing information. I hope this will slow down in the protection period. Torreslfchero (talk) 09:49, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
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message: These two have done 2 sets of films. Some as 2 friends around whom the story revolved. Whereas the other dozen films had them as enemies. There are 27 films so the names need to be mentioned.
Pran's heroine in Yamla Jat was Ranjhana. Why this fact is termed as garbage?
Irrelevant details like what Amitabh said on Pran receiving the award finds a mention in wiki - this is irrelevant.
Facts relating to his career needs more attention in wikipedia and not who were the previous recipients of Dadasaheb Phalke award - again this is an irrelevant detail put in wiki.
When Pran's films with Amitabh, Dev, Dilip Kumar, Raj Kapoor finds a mention, why not Pran's films with Shashi and Ashok Kumar???PrithviSanju (talk) 08:07, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome back! §§Dharmadhyaksha§§ {T/C} 18:07, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Facts relating to his later career needs more attention in wikipedia 

message: Wiki Editors make use of the artcile http://www.hindustantimes.com/Entertainment/Bollywood/The-life-of-a-legendary-villain-Pran/Article1-1091712.aspx. Currently wiki article on Pran especially afetr his death - looks very incomplete.Lionbase1234 (talk) 06:13, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
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message: 122.169.45.205 (talk) 06:22, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: He has worked in many films and only notable films are listed in the article. Also that you haven't provided any source for the popularity he gained from the film. Tolly4bolly 08:09, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 13 July 2013 

message: There are many information missing which have been deleted - just see the comparison- http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Pran&diff=564093394&oldid=564001328 
The following  citations are references for information which was deleted  from wiki artcile 
http://www.hindustantimes.com/Entertainment/Bollywood/The-life-of-a-legendary-villain-Pran/Article1-1091712.aspx. 
http://entertainment.oneindia.in/bollywood/features/2013/all-time-best-movies-pran-114394.html
http://daily.bhaskar.com/article/ENT-when-villain-of-the-millennium-pran-played-a-hero-4318416-PHO.html?seq=9
http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-109109-Fabled-Indian-actor-Pran-dies-at-93
http://netindian.in/news/2013/07/12/00025166/veteran-actor-pran-passes-away-93-mumbaiMrityudaata (talk) 14:47, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The new version looks better to me. We don't add every source we can find, and we don't list every tidbit of information that's available. Is there something specific from those sources that you think needs to be added/re-added? Qwyrxian (talk) 14:50, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Request on 13th July 

message: Present article on wikipedia needs following additions again
# First Mistake is he ws born in [Old Delhi]], British India
# Name of his children - Arvind SikandSunil SikandPinky Sikand
# http://www.hindustantimes.com/Entertainment/Bollywood/The-life-of-a-legendary-villain-Pran/Article1-1091712.aspx can be used for providing ref for following lines
 
* Pran was offered the role of a leading man in films like Nanha Farishta(1969),Dharma (1973), Ek Kunwari Ek Kunwara, Jangal Mein Mangal, Rahu Ketu.
* Pran occasionally accepted the role of a bad man from 1971-1992.He played villain only in 16 films from 1971 like Maryada (film)]], Naya Zamana, Jawan Muhabat, Aan Baan, Roop Tera Mastana, Yeh Gulistan Hamara, Gaddar, Rahu Ketu, Andha Kanoon (1983), Duniya (1984), Insaaf Kaun Karega, Durgaa, Bewafai, Hoshiyar, Dharm Adhikari and Azaad Desh Ke Ghulam''
# http://www.indiawest.com/.../10346-The-Legend-of-Pran--Latest-Dada-Saheb-%20Phalke-Award-Winner.html can be used to say - Pran had dual roles in Khoon Ka Rishta, Insaaf, Jangal Mein Mangal
# http://www.starlive24.in/entertainment/bollywood/the-life-of-a-legendary-villain--pran/28478.html and even http://www.dhakatribune.com/arts-amp-culture/2013/jul/13/life-legendary-villain-pran 
provides the data that
*From 1967 till 1997, he became a well-known character actor with films such as Humjoli, Parichay, Aankhon Aankhon Mein, Jheel Ke Us Paar, Zinda Dil, Hatyara, Chor Ho To Aisa, Dhan Daulat, Jaanwar (1983), Raaj Tilak, Bewafai, Imaandaar, Sanam Bewafa, 1942: A Love Story and Tere Mere Sapne.
# http://www.rediff.com/movies/slide-show/slide-show-1-92-facts-you-didnt-know-about-pran-part-three/20130712.htm#1 provides the line - 
* In the 1960s and early 1970s, Pran was in his 40s. Since he was slim and fit, his demand in the industry never went down and he was given important roles as a character aging between 25 to 30 in films starring Shammi Kapoor, Joy Mukherjee, Rajendra Kumar and Dharmendra.
# http://www.rediff.com/movies/slide-show/slide-show-1-92-facts-you-didnt-know-about-pran-part-three/20130712.htm#7 should be used to say
Pran's trademark action of blowing perfect smoke rings while smoking his cigarettes was done by him for very first time in Badi Behen(1949).
* http://www.rediff.com/movies/slide-show/slide-show-1-92-facts-you-didnt-know-about-pran-part-two/20120423.htm#4
At the age of 78, Pran suffered a heart attack in 1998. - This is reason since he declined most film offers after 1998.
# http://www.rediff.com/movies/slide-show/slide-show-1-facts-you-did-not-know-about-pran/20120416.htm#7 - needs to be used as reference for saying
* In the 1950s and 1960s, only Dilip Kumar, Dev Anand, Raj Kapoor and Rajendra Kumar were paid more than Pran.
:See WP:NOTEVERYTHING and WP:TRIVIA. For instance then "smoke ring" point is pure trivia. We definitely don't need to put in numbers of films he was a villain in, or other things like that. Please rethink the list and focus on what is actually important to an encyclopedia article, not a fan site or a biographical book. Qwyrxian (talk) 17:16, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Good points by Qwyrxian, which were sadly disregarded completely in this edit. What's worse, the editor mentions, here, that the edit contains copyright violations (in the form of "modified" sentences, also known as close paraphrasing). --bonadea contributions talk 09:33, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Request on 14th July 

message: I have removed the section tags.  What we really need are tagged claims, not sections.  There do arleady exist plenty of citations, and the linked movies in which he appeared are themselves primary sources, and as long as they are linked and he was credited in those films we do not need a tag for his appearance. μηδείς (talk) 19:35, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
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