Talk:Music of the Final Fantasy series

message: Could we possibly give this page seperate entries (put still on this page)on the music from each game. A bit of information on the styles and motifs would be great. Let's see how much data we can get on each album, and maybe if each gets too big, we can give them seperate wikis.
Valenkorps
By all means. I'll start by expanding the scope of the article from not just "compilations" to the music itself. "Compilations" should ideally be a subsection of the Final Fantasy Music article.Zaorish 08:13, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good call Valenkorps 

message: Because I'm such a retro nut. Crazyswordsman 04:05, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I put in sections for FFVI and the recurring themes 

message: As it stands, the article implies that there's renditions of the Hymn for each of the PCs. My experience from my 6 playthroughs, though, was that each rendition of the Hymn belonged to an aeon -- eg. a low, masculine for Ifrit, a child's (or soprano's) for Bahamut, etc. As it a fact that each character has their own theme music, there should be a line break to remove the implied relation to the Hymn. I went a long and changed it, but if anyone objects, please let me know! -- Bakabaka 19:31, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The CD does have Yuna's theme, Tidus Theme, etc... but it is not the Hymn of the Fayth. The hymn is called Song of Prayer on the CD and there is one for ech aeon. Renmiri 23:34, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hymn of the faith 

message: Shouldn't the Star Onions be mentioned as well somewhere? --Pinkkeith 21:35, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Star Onions

message: Okay, I just want to make sure everybody's clear on the standard definitions of these two recurring themes:
Prelude=Ascending and descending 1-2-3-5 harp part in chords C Major A minor C Major A minor F Major G Major A flat Major B flat Major or their analogues; opening title screen of FFI, FFVII, et al.
Prologue=Chords F Major C Mm7 B flat Major A m7 B flat Major G Mm7 C Mm7 etc.; crossing the bridge in FFI, integrated into the finale track in (probably among others) FFIV, FFVI, FFVII, FFVIII, and FFIX.
Given all that nonsense, I'd like to dispute the part in the introduction that claims that the Prologue was sampled in an early track on FFX; as I recall it, the Prologue was completely absent from the game and a fragment of the *Prelude* was featured in that track.  I assume that this oversight was due merely to an error in terminology (prelude and prologue are fairly similar etymologically, after all -- prelude : Latin "playing before" :: prologue : Greek "speaking before"), which is why I transcribed all that musical business and cited occurences.69.168.161.140 03:50, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Prologue, Prelude, and FFX

message: It's mentioned in the article that an unsused dungeon theme from FFII appeared in FFVI. Which song is this? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Josparke (talk • contribs) 02:46, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FFII Piece in FFVI 

message: According to the Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style, shoudn't the article title still be "Final Fantasy music" instead of the new "Music of Final Fantasy"?
201.40.25.217 06:04, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Title 

message: The disclaimer is no joke--this article is very poorly written and contains bits of commentary that are neither informative to the topic nor contributive to larger thematic content.
There are also numerous instances of erroneous, unwieldy, and ignorant descriptions and/or references to music practice and terminology.
I must advise a collaboration to rewrite all sections of the article.  The section themselves are, currently, still viable headings under which information can be organized.  It is the content that is of severe concern.
I would also encourage only those with strong musical background to implement and maintain information pertaining to the study, practice, culture, and art of music or music history.  I am not discouraging anyone without such training from contributing at all; these contributions should be kept within your own personal informational capacity and it is not recommended you extend your reach beyond your own personal knowledge and experience.  The article as it is looks extremely amateur and, frankly, embarrassing to those of us that take music culture and specifically video game music culture seriously.
This is not intended as offense to anyone.  But if other articles pertaining to music can be informative, professional, scholarly, and neutral, there's no reason this one can't be.
I'm open to thoughts and suggestions from anyone.
Winterglaive 18:45, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite indeed 

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thread_title: Good Article nomination

message: and it's Hymn of the Fayth? I'd think that any of Prelude, Victory Fanfare, or a Chocobo theme would be more representative. —Random832 21:25, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are other samples, e.g. many on Music of Final Fantasy VII. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 11:44, 15 December 2007 (UTC)

text: But I just added in a sample of Techno de Chocobo, for the hell of it. --Dave the Rave (DTR)talk 12:26, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only one audio sample 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Final Fantasy VI - Techno de Chocobo.ogg

message: PresN, I appreciate the work you've done on this article, but I do think my FFXII bit is/was more appropriate as yours features  some very subjective opinions (the review parts) and unverifiable claims. 
Mine only states facts and useful information.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ssoass (talk • contribs) 22:23, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  FFXII 

message: A recent addition to this article is information on a group with vague links to Square Enix. I've reverted on the basis that the article is supposedly talking about the Music of Final Fantasy as related to its developer, Square Enix. How does a coverage on a fan composition be included in this article? Are the composers by any chance working with Square Enix? Moreover... Final Fantasy XIV? Uhh....enlighten me... — Blue。 20:55, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And do you have any verifiable and reliable sources to go with this bit of information? Most importantly... official? — Blue。 21:38, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final Fantasy XIV 

message: Well, the article needs lot of sources. I will start adding some.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.67.193.43 (talk) 21:21, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do, as long as by "adding sources" you don't mean "delete random swaths of the article", as per your last changes. --PresN 21:55, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources are needed folks

message: Where's 1987? Nomchan (talk) 14:05, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not real.  Actually, it's because the text said 1989 was the year FF1 came out, and I fixed it but not the section header.  Thanks! --PresN 16:14, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Thanks, taking care of it. --PresN 16:09, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  1989–1994: Famicom era 

message: While I was reading I noticed some inaccuracies, I didn't want to correct them since they are claerly explained through surrondings sentences, but I still think rephrasing them would be a good idea.
"Like previous titles, the discography of Final Fantasy V included an arranged and a piano album in addition to the main soundtrack album."
If it was "like the previous title" or "like its predecessor", that would work, but FFI-III don't have a piano collections...
"It was the last Final Fantasy soundtrack that Uematsu was a main composer for, as he resigned from Square Enix in November 2004"
With FFXIV, it now has to be changed! :)
"Final Fantasy XIV, announced at the June 2, 2009, Sony E3 conference, will be primarily composed by Uematsu through his "Smile Please" studio."
Uematsu will be the only one to compose this soundtrack, it was written on Dog Ear's blog: "ノビヨ師匠が一人で全曲担当" and is available here: http://dogearrecords.blog92.fc2.com/blog-date-200906.html (2009.06.04)
Thanks for anyone who wants to change these minor details! :) --BahaFura (talk) 00:38, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing out those problems, I'll get right to them. --PresN 05:07, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some minor corrections / inaccuracies 

message: After giving the article a quick read, I feel it is not quite A-class yet.
*My main issue is the prose, which is informative, but needs polishing to improve readability. I made some example edits to the article that I think condenses some lengthy parts and adds variance to reduce tedious reading. Examples to keep in mind are the use of "Final Fantasy", the title and lead clear establish that everything mentioned in the article are related to Final Fantasy. So it is not necessary to say "Final Fantasy games", "Final Fantasy franchise", and "Final Fantasy series" every other sentence. Mixing it "the games", "the franchise", "the series" and even "it" will reduce tedious reading. Some words are going to be mentioned a lot, like "piece", "track", "discography", etc., but still try to mix it up with synonyms and pronouns. If you want more specific details, let me know.
*I know some of the info must have been difficult to source, but I have to question the reliability of some of the references. What makes the following reliable sources?
**Square Sound
**Square Enix Music Online
**Chudah's corner
**NobuoUematsu.com
**Critique Of Games
Other than those things, I have no major complaints. Image usage looks good, I especially like the timelines, and the article looks complete. (Guyinblack25 talk 23:08, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone through and removed extraneous "Final Fantasy"s, and you're right, there were a ton.  I'll try to go through and clean up the prose some more in addition; the references are going to take some work though. --PresN 01:27, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Its been over two months and with no supports for A-class status, it will stay GA. GamerPro64 (talk) 01:33, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  A class assessment 

message: Just a note that Apple has removed all of the Final Fantasy music from the store as of today, Dec 17, 2011. I don't know if it's a rights issue or not, but they're gone now.Tuxpower (talk) 14:44, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  iTunes removed all Square Enix Final Fantasy music from the store 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I'm glad to see  exanding this article, though I agree with  that the price information was too much. Actually, though, I've never been very happy with the list of sales numbers here, and even less so now that it's a gigantic table- it's a bit overwhelming. I think it may be better, now that Maesto2016 has found suhc excellent references, to instead add all those sales figures to the individual "Music of Final Fantasy #" articles, and only summarize the highlights here. As it is, the sales tables are about 2/3 as long as the entire (gigantic) history section, and nothing but very precise numbers at that. --PresN 03:00, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you mean, as in, having separate sales tables for each FF music article, and then reducing the table here down to an overall summary? Maestro2016 (talk) 17:47, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears so. Although I'm not sure what can be summarized with it here. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 19:07, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably give the sum totals of all album/single sales for a game/sub-series with links to the respective articles? Maestro2016 (talk) 20:43, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

text: I've added separate tables for each FF music article, and trimmed the table in this article down to a summary of the sales in those articles. Let me know what you guys think. Maestro2016 (talk) 23:50, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I didn't mean tables, because the individual game articles have sections on each album so they should have the sales there- I can adjust that, though. Just realized as well that the revenue numbers are double-no good: the source doesn't actually say revenue. You're multiplying the sticker price by the total sales numbers, but there's no proof that every album was sold at full price. Third, I'd rather the sales table here be prose that discusses the trends, but the table itself isn't bad at all so I'll poke at it after I adjust the individual game articles. --PresN 04:23, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, a little lost- for "All Sounds of Final Fantasy I - II", you cite the sales numbers to  - but that's just a general Oricon url. How are you getting the sales numbers? If it doesn't have its own url, that's fine, but the citation should include instructions for how to search for the album. --PresN 04:27, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, a subscription is required to access the full Oricon sales figures. Maestro2016 (talk) 04:48, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay, so, subscription required, then you have to search for the album name? There's no direct url to the sales numbers for the album name? I'm not going to get a subscription, I'm just going to update the citation to explain what you need to do if there's no direct url to use instead (the subscription is covered by adding |url-access=subscription). --PresN 05:04, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty much. Though it would be best to search the Japanese title. You can see the Japanese title for each album/single in the Oricon price references (the "title=" part). Maestro2016 (talk) 10:10, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sales figures 

message: Considering the Theatrhythm series focuses on FF music, would it make sense to add it as part of the legacy section? Dyxtan (talk) 17:45, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theatrhythm