Talk:List of countries by lowest point

message: I always though that Lake Erye at 15 meters below sea level was the lowest point in Australia.
Yewenyi 02:30, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

message: The title seems to be incorrect. The listing is only of countries whose lowest points are above sea level. 
The title should not be changed--instead, the list should continue to include all countries who have points below sea level, all the way to the Dead Sea bordering countries.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.114.209.94 (talk) 01:55, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know about you, but I cannot imagine how a list could be useful if it listed about one hundred countries in the very same place, and, even worse, have them right in the middle. No, no, all that needs to be done is to list these countries in the footnote, which, in any case, does refer to one place in the list between the countries above sea level and those below. It's not like they are not represented; they just need to be written. Waltham, The Duke of 07:37, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect title 

message: A discussion has been started at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Countries/Lists of countries which could affect the inclusion criteria and title of this and other lists of countries.  Editors are invited to participate. Pfainuk talk 11:40, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New Discussion

message: When sorting the table according to elevation, it sorts alphebetically and not numerically , -1,-10,-2 instead of ,-1,-2,-10 how can this be fixed?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amitair (talk • contribs) 06:18, 24 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  table sorting 

message: If all the heights/depths in meters are given in a whole number of meters, which they almost certainly are not, then it doesn't make sense to give the height in feet to three decimal places.  After all, 1/1000 of a foot comes to 3/250 of an inch, which is just a shade more than 1/83 of an inch.  The information provided is certainly not that accurate.  140.147.236.195 (talk) 19:22, 2 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feet/meter conversion way over the top 

message: OK, I did some work on this table.  First of all, I set it to make the conversions from meters to feet automatically.  And I set it so the conversions ran to the same number of decimal places as the original; converting to five or six decimal from an original figure that's an approximation to begin with makes no sense.
I also fiddled with the reordering feature, and it's not perfect, but improved.  Now, the positives and the negatives--taken separately--order in numerical order.  Unfortunately, I haven't been able to figure out what to do with the negative figures so that they order in numerical order IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION.  But it's much improved from what it was doing before.  173.79.191.234 (talk) 02:54, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sorting and conversions 

message: Someone recently added Greece to this list; I fixed the coding so now the altitude shows in its proper place on the table (it needed two more pipes, and one more right brace at the end).
But I wonder if it really belongs here; can someone back up the information presented?  Countries whose low point is sea level (typically the sea coast) are excluded from the table).  The information added here about Greece says that the low point is the Mediterranean, and puts that at slightly below sea level.
I suppose it's possible, depending on prevailing currents and such, that at least part of the Mediterranean could have its surface slightly below sea level, but I don't see anything on that in the article here on the sea.  Besides, if that's true, then it seems likely that a number of countries at least at the eastern end of the Mediterranean would also have coastline below sea level.
Can anybody shed any light? Uporządnicki (talk) 13:02, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greece, is somebody sure? 

message: I'd like to help out on the Syria matter--presenting something that might not displease anybody too much.  What I'd LIKE to do is, present the elevation at the shore of the Sea of Galilee, and then in a note, present the lowest elevation outside of the Golan Heights.  But there's a problem.  I haven't got a source.  
One might suppose that if you remove the Golan Heights from consideration, the lowest elevation would be the shore of the Mediterranean, thus, sea level.  But it's not so.  There's a river that runs into the Jordan, and it seems to cut a valley or gorge.  It runs through the Golan area.  But while it's in undisputed Syria, it has already cut its way below sea level.  So the lowest point of the gorge outside of Golan would be the point where it enters.
Unfortunately, I found this by looking at Google Maps; I looked on the terrain view, followed the river, and noted the contour lines (which, for some reason, ALWAYS skip the line for zero elevation.  A few problems with that: It sounds to me dangerously close to Original Research; I'm having to interpolate--guess the contour--between two contour lines; Finding this doesn't guarantee that there isn't something lower somewhere else.
Does anybody have a source for this?  Uporządnicki (talk) 13:03, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Syria--would like to help 

message: Sarygamysh Koli and Sariqarnish Kuli is the same thing on the border between them. However, the numbers in the second reference looks very strange, at least here they are pretty much different. If follow those numbers, Uzbekistan has +5 now and is in the positive half of the list. Hatifnatter (talk) 20:59, 24 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uzbekistan and Turkmenistan values 

message: Look at the town fr:Gaya (ville) which is in Niger but has the elevation 175 m ... Hatifnatter (talk) 20:14, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Niger 

message: Well, here is the most strange. Kara Darya's lowest point is above 400 m and it is in Uzbekistan! So, 132 meters look just a huge mistake. I think, the reasonable number is aroud 435 m next to Kayrakkum reservoir, though it is not exact. Hatifnatter (talk) 21:47, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, mistake. Sergoman (talk) 03:19, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kyrgyzstan 

message: There's an IP user who made an edit recently; he or she changed the listing for Syria to make it say Israel and show the flag of Israel.  I added a note about the Golan Heights controversy--even though some didn't feel it was necessary (I don't think it should be necessary).
The changes make no sense, anyway.  First, they give Israel two widely different lowest point; Israel already unambiguously shares with Jordan the lowest land in the world, so a point much higher up is hardly the lowest point.  Second, it cuts Syria out of the list altogether--and Syria must have a lowest point.
Similar edits have been made and reverted before.  Is there a way to stop a blatant political edit--one that makes no sense--from an IP user?  I know that some pages are protected; this does seem a silly page to have to protect.  Uporządnicki (talk) 02:35, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Further on this, the IP user has address (or whatever it's called) 85.64.88.165.  That person did a similar heavy-handed, ideologically motivated edit in the article for the Sea of Galilee. Uporządnicki (talk) 02:50, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone is still making a nonsensical, ideologically motivated edit 

message: Having a sub-glacial point for Antarctica is illogical - using this logic we should be giving the depth at the bottom of the Dead Sea, not the surface. The lowest accessible point on the Antarctic Continent is in fact Deep Lake,Vestfold Hills, which is at -50 m. Coordinates are  68° 33.5'S,  78° 11.78'E. Don't believe the height that Google Earth gives you. I am an IP-er, but with many year's experience in Antarctic geography.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 101.173.85.66 (talk) 10:54, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antarctica