Talk:Microsoft/Archive 3

message: I think the history section lacks mentions to apple. It was a important aspect of how the GUI was copyed form apple (who in turn copied form xerox parc)
user avsa (too lazy to log)
:Also too lazy to check the facts. As this is discussed on History of the Graphical User Interface I'll leave it to you to read up and get a clue. Oh I forgot, you're lazy. In that case, I'll say it here; Apple didn't copy the GUI from PARC.Graham 06:13, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  history: apple 

message: Was initially to ship in 2003, but slipped to 2006
less like a slip and more like a little sprint (or 10 of them)  — Ilγαηερ (Tαlκ) 05:37, 12 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longhorn 

message: Maybe this quote should be put somewhere on this page?
:: Paul Pogonyshev 15:28, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  the era of "open computing,"' the free exchange of digital information that has defined the personal computer industry, is ending 

message: As seen in this article:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-us/dnforms/html/winforms11162004.asp
:Don't be too surprised — I've barely met anyone at MS who doesn't know about Wikipedia, and I've seen plenty of citations internally. Wikipedia is ubiquitous. Deco 21:02, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  wikipedia has m$'s attention 

message: I took a photo of a fancy Microsoft sign (see right) and was wondering if it could fit into this article somehow. Could someone insert it in an appropriate place if so? Maybe a section about the campus. Thanks. Deco 21:06, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sign image to use 

message: ...an hysterically funny and, I think, unintentional diagram appeared in the OS/2 manual circa OS/2 1.3. It was in the promotional-drool-executive-overview section that showed how wonderful OS/2 was. It was supposed to show something about how beautifully the parts of the system worked together. 
If I recall the configuration correctly, it showed a pair of meshed circular gears and a long, single worm gear driven by a crank. The worm gear was positioned so that it meshed with both circular gears at the same time, attempting them both in the same direction, while the two circular gears, being meshed, were constrained to turn in opposite direction. In other words, the system was jammed and it would have been impossible to turn the crank or get anything in the system to operate. Dpbsmith (talk) 20:33, 18 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speaking of logo history... 

message: The racial discrimination lawsuit against Microsoft  made big headlines at the time  , but I'm not sure if it was ever settled or dismissed.  Does anyone have more information on this?  ElBenevolente 01:40, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lawsuit? 

message: I put a link to this article on here, and it was removed without reasoning, then added it again ant yet again it was removed. I wanna know why you can't have it there, and why any of the other articles are more worth the sapce? They came first or something? ThorRune 15:17, 8 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  My damn link... 

message: Note: to start this off I'm posting this to a few Microsoft articles. 
I have kicked this off as I think we can do a lot better on many of our Microsoft related articles. Windows XP is just one example of a whole bunch of people getting together to fix up issues of NPOV, fact and verifiability of an article. I think that no matter whether you like Microsoft or not that we could definitely do with a review of: a) the articles that we already have, and b) the articles that we should have in Wikipedia! - Ta bu shi da yu 02:06, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Microsoft notice board]] 

message: The new version is slightly edited (the dot over the i is corrected).
CURRENT:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Microsoft_sign_closeup.jpg
NEW:
http://web.comhem.se/~u79700325/Microsoft_sign_closeup.jpg
:Well, the original was an unaltered photograph. The dot may have been damaged somehow. If someone does edit it, please edit the original resolution version and upload it to Commons over the old one. Deco 18:02, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New version of "Microsoft_sign_closeup.jpg"? 

message: If someone can think of a better name please do so.  It would be nice if we could mention a couple projects like the IBM page.  Also, I made a lot of HTML comments in the code, if anyone can fill in the blanks please do so ::). I think one problem is the history section, which I think what my point with the longish summery of the antitrust case... the main problem is that if we mention that then we probably need a summery of MS vs. Apple at the very least and maybe a bit about MS vs. IBM. It makes it really long and pretty stacked though - it would be nice if we could get something different than a legal case in there (somehow) while we're doing that. --Ryan Norton T | @</font> | C 11:04, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments, history, misc ventures etc. 

message: The CNN videos from the 1998 trial doesn't work anymore, anybody have an alternative link?--Jerryseinfeld 20:33, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gates v. Boies videos 

message: I removed this.... I wasn't sure what to with it:
Microsoft Active Directory </br>
Microsoft </br>
Microsoft .Net </br>
Microsoft .Net Framework </br>
Microsoft SharePoint Portal Server 2003 </br>
Microsoft BizTalk Server 2004 </br>
Microsoft Business Solutions Solomon </br>
Microsoft Business Solutions CRM </br>
Microsoft Business Solutions Axapta </br>
Microsoft Business Soltuions Navision </br>
Microsoft Business Solutions Great Plains </br>
Microsoft Windows Server 2003 </br>
Microsoft Windows Server 2003 64 bits </br>
Microsoft Visio 2003 </br>
Microsoft Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition </br>
Microsoft Internet Information Server 2003 </br>
Microsoft Internet Information Services </br>
Microsoft Windows Server System </br>
Microsoft SQL Server 2000 </br>
Microsoft Exchange Server 2003 </br>
Microsoft transacción Server </br>
Microsoft SAP.Net Connector </br>
Microsoft SNA Server </br>
Microsoft Source Safe </br>
Microsoft Content Management Server 2002 </br>
Windows Terminal Server </br>
Outlook Web Access </br>
Microsoft Office 2003 </br>
Microsoft Office 2004 for MacOS X </br>
Microsoft Windows XP </br>
Microsoft Internet Security and Acceleration Server 2004 </br>
Microsoft Windows Small Business Server 2003 </br>
Microsoft Outlook 2003 </br>
Microsoft Front Page 2003 </br>
Microsoft Index Server </br>
Microsoft Office Accelerator for Sarbanes Oaxley </br>
Windows Messenger </br>
Microsoft System Management Server 2003 </br>
Software Update Services </br>
Microsoft ASP.Net </br>
Microsoft Operations Manager 2005 </br>
Microsoft C# </br>
Microsoft Biztalk Server 2004 </br>
Microsoft Enterprise Project Management </br>
Microsoft OneNote 2003 </br>
Microsoft Visual Studio .Net 2003 </br>
Microsoft Right Management Services </br>
Microsoft Live Communication Server </br>
Microsoft Windows Media Player </br>
Microsoft Windows Media Services </br>
Microsoft Internet Explorer </br>
Windows Server 2000 </br>
Visual Studio .NET </br>
Microsoft Visual Basic .NET </br>
Microsoft Encarta </br>
Microsoft Money 2006 Small Business Edition </br>
Microsoft Streets & Trips 2005 with GPS Locator </br>
Microsoft Works Suite 2005 (More function at the minor price that OpenOffice) </br>
Microsoft Xbox </br>
Microsoft Xbox 360 </br>
MSN® TV 2 Internet & Media Player </br>
Virtual PC for Mac 7.0.2 Update </br>
Microsoft Windows Services for UNIX </br>
Microsoft XENIX Vista 12i. (Complete Open Source technologies, BSD like distribution). Compatible with all Linux Apps, Gnome and MONO. </br>
Microsoft AntiSpyware</br>
Ryan Norton T | @ | C 00:35, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Catalog" 

message: I'm unsure if this was just the result of some clever vandals, some but the futher reading section was sprawled in several parts at the very bottom of the page (I thought I removed the futher reading section previously for preperation for the FAC too... I would have made a comment here though so maybe not)
=== Further Reading ===
Freiberger, Paul, and Michael Swaine. Fire in the Valley: The Making of the Personal Computer. Berkeley, California: Osborne/McGraw Hill, 1984.*Rivlin, Gary. The Plot to Get Bill Gates. 1999.
*Wallace, James. Overdrive. 1997.
*Wallace, James, and Jim Erikson. Hard Drive. 1992.
Ryan Norton T | @ | C 01:35, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  messed up futher reading section 

message: Freiberger, Paul, and Michael Swaine. Fire in the Valley: The Making of the Personal Computer. Berkeley, California: Osborne/McGraw Hill, 1984.*Rivlin, Gary. The Plot to Get Bill Gates. 1999.
*Wallace, James. Overdrive. 1997.
*Wallace, James, and Jim Erikson. Hard Drive. 1992.
Ryan Norton T | @ | C 01:35, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further Reading 

message: OK, guys. I added a WHOLE BOATLOAD of history and stuff to the intro. I rewrote the product groups/divisions for the new update. I also killed the current activies section and some links. While neat, we'll get killed at FAC for describing future events if we do that. He's the diff (http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Microsoft&diff=24152681&oldid=24151264).
Anyway, the article is ready to be made into a FA. COME ON GUYS LETS MAKE A FEATURED ARTICLE OUT OF THIS!!!!!!!
Ryan Norton T | @ | C 15:03, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! I went ahead and reworked it a bit... how does it look now? Ryan Norton T | @ | C 21:04, 27 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  ARTICLE EXPANDED AND REWRITTEN, LETS MAKE IT A FEATURED ARTICLE 

message: Bill Gates was linked about six times, as an example. The text was geting very hard to read, and to edit. Common words like 'office' were linked. Before anyone objects and starts to relink, please read See Wikipedia:Make_only_links_relevant_to_the_context and discuss here. Tony 04:28, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Way too overlinked 

message: Since I was asked, here is my rationale for this revert: 
The term "microcomputing" has fallen into disuse. It's just "computing" now. "Footholds" is the proper term for a base for further advancement, not "handholds". "Flood" is used wrt markets, but "deluge" is usually not used metaphorically in this way. "Position" is a proper marketing term which refers to a product's intended market and perception. The term "location" is not synonymous. Anyone who has studied marketing can tell you this. Likewise, "dominate" is an acceptable marketing term but "overpower" is not one. I believe the anonymous user simply replaced several words in the article using a thesaurus, for no apparent reason. That is why I reverted. Most of the changes were awkward and reduced meaning. Rhobite 23:28, 27 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert rationale