Talk:Bodleian Library

message: There is a problem with the number of 'copyright' libraries in the UK.  There are currently only five, since Trinity College Dublin is not in the UK.  However, historically there were six at the time of the 1911 Copyright Act.  
Should the History section be changed to reflect this? — Preceding unsigned comment added by PurplePenny (talk • contribs) 12:35, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Copyright libraries are UK and Ireland, and if you check the Copyright Acts entries you will see the list is correct - there are currently 6. --gobears87 (talk) 15:10, 28 December 2009 (UTC)

text: Edit, I should have linked the entry, hard to find as "copyright acts", this lists the libraries: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_Deposit_Libraries_Act_2003 --gobears87 (talk) 10:47, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of Legal Deposit libraries in the UK 

message: That isn't, strictly speaking, a Bod card.  It is a University of Oxford card (a 'Blue Card' in library parlance); it does allow the holder to enter the Bodleian and its dependent libraries but is far more than just a library card.  There is a Bodleian specific card (a 'Brown Card'), given to people who are not members of the university but are granted membership of the library.  The two can be compared here: Radcliffe Science Library admissions guide . PurplePenny 00:03, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Bod card' photo 

message: I have a Brown Card. I am a member of the University. The Brown Card may be issued to persons who are not members of the University, but not everybody who has a Brown Card is a non-member. The above doesn't say, "given only to...", but most readers would probably make that inference, i.e. Blue Cards are for members; Brown Cards are for non-members. That is not the case.--Oxonian2006 22:39, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Membership of the University: a Clarification

message: I worked at Oxford for 3 years and I was a Bod reader but I was not required to make any declaration that I shall not steal or deface or burn books or whatever. Maybe that statement could be qualified a little? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.67.16.56 (talk) 21:00, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have altered this paragraph as recital of the declaration is certainly not compulsory anymore, although the ceremonies do still take place for those who wish to take them. The forms that one must complete in order to receive a Bod card contain the text of the declaration if I remember. Rje 15:00, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Snowboardpunk, the oath, the ceremony and any restrictions have nothing to do with the fact you are American. And there are no armed guards at the Bodleian. Curious that someone told you that you could enter only after 2pm, there are no hourly restrictions on any readers, only dates. See this page for more information: http://www.ouls.ox.ac.uk/services/admissions/cards   Cheers. --gobears87 (talk) 15:16, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Declaration 

message: Guys I have a much better photo of the library, and I am ready to give it away to Wikipedia. It already on Wikimedia Commons - I think it's much better than existing one Sigizmund 15:34, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Library photo 

message: Lucian, can you please clarify what precisely you mean when you mention reference to Ireland Copyright and Related Rights Act 2000? From what I read at the agency website (reference 1) we should be saying UK and Ireland in the lead paragraph. CarterBar (talk) 18:06, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Legal Deposit Libraries Act 2003 is a UK Act of Parliament and it only claims Jurisdiction over UK and not Irish publications. The fact that this Act does indeed require that a copy of each Book is sent to Trinity College, Dublin does not mean that Irish Publications fall under the Act ie the legal deposit libraries only apply to UK Publications.  Likewise, in the Republic of Ireland, the Copyright and Related Rights Act 2000 specifies that one copy of every book published is to be delivered to the British Library (not the Bodleian) as well as Trinity College Library, Dublin. However this act also requires books to be sent to the National Library of Ireland, the library of the University of Limerick, the library of Dublin City University, and  the National University of Ireland. Thus there are additional legal deposit libraries in Ireland. Lucian Sunday (talk) 18:50, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, that's clear, but does the Bodleian receive a copy of all Irish publications anyway? CarterBar (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 19:49, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I have checked the Irish Act and it does include the Bodleian Library, Oxford; the University Library, Cambridge; the National Library of Scotland, and the National Library of Wales.Lucian Sunday (talk) 20:52, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Reading further, I can see that these dont have to be provided automatically, only when requested, but I would suspect from the Agency Website that they do have a system to get hold each book. Lucian Sunday (talk) 20:57, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  LDL Act 

message: Hi carterbar, you've reverted the older text to state In 1911, the Copyright Act continued the Stationers' agreement by making the Bodleian one of the six (at that time) libraries in the British Isles where a copy of each book copyrighted must be deposited. See: Legal deposit.  The  1911 Copyright Act makes it clear that the act is for the United Kingdom.  There is no legal entity called "British Isles".  In addition, since the British Isles also covers the Isle of Man (with it's own legislative powers), are you suggesting that the act also legislated for publications there (and Jersey too).  It's a common error in articles to equate British Isles = United Kingdom = Great Britain - but it *is* inaccurate, and my edits attempt to correct the article.  --Bardcom (talk) 17:56, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the act you refer to is a UK Act, but one of the six libraries referred to is in a different part of the British Isles, namely Ireland. The library is at Trinity College, Dublin. I maintain that British Isles is an adequate description to cover the geographic area of the libraries in question. The issue with the Isle of Man is a complete red herring. You seem to be saying that unless usage of British Isles is all inclusive, covering each of the constituent countries, Channel Islands, IoM and elsewhere, then the usage is not valid. This cannot be correct. CarterBar (talk) 18:42, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You're wrong.  British Isles is not the same as United Kingdom as you seem to believe.  This act covered the United Kingdom, and since Ireland was part of the United Kingdom at the time (act of union 1801), this is the term that should be used.  If you want to use a more "modern" term, it's would also be OK to say "United Kingdom and Ireland".  Using the term "British Isles" is not only wrong, it is inaccurate.  It might be handy for your argument to dismiss the Isle of Man, but you can't wish it away (or Jersey for that matter), and that's the whole point of being accurate and an encyclopedia.  This act did not cover those areas, only the United Kingdom.  It records accurate information, not inaccurate opinion.  The Bod was one of the libraries selected for deposits within The United Kingdom, not "British Isles".  Justify your edit with a reference or a citation (as I've done - please read the Act from the link I provided) as required.  Bardcom (talk) 19:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reversions by carterbar 

message: I was poking around in Google Books or Google Scholar (not sure which... not relevant here) this evening, and ran across a work I had never seen before.  In an attempt to ascertain which library had scanned it and made it available (as I was considering whether it would be worth a road trip), I went to the prefatory material to look for a library stamp. &c.  On the title page of the work, there was an acquisition stamp which read Bibliotheca Bodletana.  Initially, I read it incorrectly (as the stamp was blurry) and I wasn't sure what this meant.  Upon further inspection, I realized it was an acquisition stamp for the Bodleian Library as I had visited the facility when I was a student at CLW in Aberystwyth.  Not sure how often this might come up, but I did a Google search and got no hits on Bibliotheca Bodletana.  Thought it might be worth mentioning somewhere in the Wikipedia article for those less familiar with the Bodleian (or Latin for that matter).  (Was going to upload a JPG of the acquisition stamp, but I forgot my old Wiki account and had to create a new one... cause the login I normally use is "is use" by myself or somebody else.  I'll try it again in a few days.
--Symmerhill (a.k.a. Summerhilll) (talk) 06:16, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the reason you got no ghits for Bibliotheca Bodletana is that the name and stamp is Bibliotheca Bodleiana — it is an I not a T. If you can find a scanned edition with an unblurred stamp (try for eg the 1861 edition of Tylor's Anahuac: or, Mexico and the Mexicans, ancient and modern), the distinction between the letters is much more obvious.--cjllw ʘ TALK 00:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliotheca Bodletana 

message: According to Oxford's University Library Website the University holds 11 million Volumes [] — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.217.104.67 (talk) 19:48, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Corrected. --gobears87 (talk) 15:33, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 11 Million Volumes

message: Came to update references/citations, found that the "edit" buttons have been moved (by insertion of photos??) into text and are hard to find and to use!  This applies to sections below "Thomas Bodley..." and above "Present..." 
Please can someone with Wiki formatting skills PLEASE fix this ASAP?! Thanks. --gobears87 (talk) 15:52, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks... I think Ukexpat perhaps did the format revisions. Belated appreciation. --gobears87 (talk) 09:58, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I did? Oh wait, yes I did. In this situation  is the template to use. – ukexpat (talk) 15:43, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  URGENT format help needed 

message: "An original copy of the Shikshapatri that was given to Sir John Malcolm is kept in this library". Removed from text: if notable enough needs to be in relevant section.--Felix Folio Secundus (talk) 21:02, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shikshapatri 

message: Who calls is Bodley? Its just "the bod"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.1.162.20 (talk) 22:21, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I call it Bodley, admittedly in a slightly arch tone! The OED entry for Bodleian notes "also colloquially called Bodley." The 1952 History of the Bodleian Library by one of Bodley's Librarians contains at least 3 references to 'Bodley' and a celebratory anthology was published in 2002 as Most noble Bodley! Addedentry (talk) 10:21, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The official title of the librarian in charge is "Bodley's Librarian". In fact there is a dedicated Wiki page for this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodley%27s_Librarian . Additionally, just as an fyi, staff email addresses are @bodley.ox.ac.uk --gobears87 (talk) 09:20, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bodley 

message: An e-text of the Annals of the Bodleian Library, Oxford, A.D. 1598-A.D. 1867 by William Dunn Macray is now avaiable as a free download on Project Gutenberg. Does this warrant inclusion as a useful reference in the main article?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roslin344 (talk • contribs) 09:27, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Annals 

message: Hi - I represent the Bodleian Libraries and have just noticed the wording under 'Present and Future of Libraries' (last line) regarding identity and the name change to Bodleian Libraries from OULS. The wording is not neutral, and the citation used does not back the statement made (citation is a factual note of name change; sentence cites loss of identity etc). 
Could someone please take a look and, if appropriate, please remove the statement. It is not backed up by fact. Thanks!
--Liz McCarthy (talk) 15:15, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for bringing this to our attention. I have removed the editorialising.--ukexpat (talk) 16:46, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problematic wording - OULS/Bodleian rename 

message: More than 300,000 of their rare books have been digitised and put on the web. Should we create a template to cite any of these used in Wikipedia? -- Alan Liefting (talk - contribs) 00:50, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Create a template for the libraries' digitised volumes? 

message: Hi all - The Bodleian has a new Bodley's Librarian, Richard Ovenden. I've updated his name in the sidebox as I felt it was a minor change, but am hesitant to do more due to conflict of interest issues (I'm in the Library's comms office). There are some updates needed in the section Bodley's Librarian.  Would someone be willing to jump in? I'd suggest simply replacing the bit on Sarah Thomas with the following unless someone wants to add more background on Richard Ovenden:
The current Librarian, Richard Ovenden, was appointed in February 2014. 
Thanks!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Liz McCarthy (talk • contribs) 16:17, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed for you Liz... think he was appointed 25 January? --gobears87 (talk) 14:19, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Richard Ovenden - new director

message: Could use more good references! Only two valid references remaining. Have deleted the following as the link was dead and a thorough search of the Cherwell site shows it is well gone.  *
--gobears87 (talk) 14:21, 18 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Restored. Always check for the cache. 16:36, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Substituted at 09:57, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: I struggled somewhat to understand what this was saying. But now I think I follow. 
Since even heating the buildings was forbidden because of fire danger, we would have rightly expected that smoking (hardly a necessity like heating in the dead of winter) would surely have been made forbidden for the same reason. 
But in fact, although heating was disallowed, smoking was, quite counterintuitively, nonetheless permitted. Toddcs (talk) 02:01, 11 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "did not forbid tobacco smoking, though libraries were then unheated"