Talk:Estudiantes de La Plata

message: Original text: A lot of people talks about the nickname "Pincharratas", but not too much knows that the really story begins with a famous fan nicknamed "El Pincharrata" who was a bodyguard of the first division team of Estudiantes in early century. Actually, the was two brothers called "pincharratas", Felipe and Eduardo Montedónica. The nick was extendend first to the team and then to the fans
I brought it here before deleting it from the article (poorly written). -Mariano 08:32, 2005 Jun 21 (UTC)
: There are a few sources that point to this alternative origin, and it is not altogether implausible. The main article has been corrected, with better English. elpincha 13:36, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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message: From La Nacion, 04Aug2005. Loaded here 'temporarily, for fact-checking only, under fair use
Carlos Bilardo
Nació el 16/3/1939, en Buenos Aires. Volante. Como jugador, estuvo en Estudiantes entre 1965 y 1970. Jugó 175 partidos y anotó 11 goles
Juan Ramón Verón
Nació el 17/3/1944, en La Plata. Delantero. En cuatro períodos, entre 1962 y 1981, jugó en Estudiantes 295 partidos y marcó 77 goles
Alberto Poletti
Nació el 20/7/1946, en Buenos Aires. Arquero. Estuvo en Estudiantes entre 1965 y 1970. Jugó 160 partidos
Carlos Pachamé
Nació el 25/2/1944, en Ensenada, Buenos Aires. Volante. En 273 partidos en Estudiantes, en dos períodos (1963/71 y 74/76), hizo seis goles
Eduardo Flores
Nació el 23/4/1944 en Ensenada, Buenos Aires. Delantero. Entre 1962 y 1971, vistió la camiseta de Estudiantes en 164 partidos. Marcó 65 goles
Raúl Madero
Nació el 21/5/1939, en Buenos Aires. Defensor. En Estudiantes actuó entre 1963 y 1969. Jugó 179 cotejos y anotó nueve goles
Hugo Gottardi
Nació el 31/7/1953, en Elortondo, Santa Fe. Delantero Jugó 310 partidos para Estudiantes, en los períodos 1976/83 y 1986/87. Convirtió 127 goles
Miguel A. Russo
Nació el 9/4/1956, en Lanús, Buenos Aires. Volante Hizo toda su carrera en Estudiantes, entre 1975 y 1988, con 420 partidos y 11 goles
Mariano Pavone
Nació el 24/5/1982, en Tres Sargentos, Buenos Aires. Delantero Debutó en Estudiantes en octubre de 2000. Jugó 106 partidos y convirtió 28 tantos
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Mm, I think I asked you something about a player weather it was in Estudiantes or not, but can remember who... Sori! -Mariano 08:20, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
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message: The arrests were ordered by Ongania after Milan, not by Levingston after Feyenoord.
A good source for this is from the books "The Global Art of Soccer" by Richard Witzig, and "Fear and Loathing in World Football" by Gary Armstrong & Richard Giulianotti. The relevant parts of both books are available in Google Books. To find these, just enter "poletti aguirre suarez milan" in Google, and look for Google Books Results. elpincha (talk) 14:29, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
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