Talk:Youth ministry

message: I appreciate that this article grew out of a more narrowly written earlier piece ('Youth Ministry (Evangelical)' that might still be better titled 'Youth Ministry (American Evangelical)'), but I wonder if the parameters have now been set a little too wide? The term 'Ministry' in the sense of a 'religious ministry' is generally specific to christianity (although I appreciate Unitarian Universalists also use the term and bow to HellaNorCal's superior knowledge). But does Judaism and Islam use the term? I appreciate that they do engage in the equivelent of youth ministry (and that whatever they do is worthy of an article), but I question whether they give it that name... which might explain why nobody has yet felt the urge to filling those sections of the article. Any thoughts? Ray Ellis 23:20, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, nobody has commented on that in nearly a year, so I'm going to remove the Judaism & Islam headings.If anyone has some relevant content, they are welcome to restore them. But I don't believe that Jewish or Muslim youth work is referred to by those faiths as a 'ministry'. Ray Ellis 10:44, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Parameters of this Article

message: Added POV template, this article is full of issues.  What sticks out most to me are "Christian Youth Ministry is usually geared toward bringing students together, telling them about Jesus Christ, and encouraging them to accept him as their personal Lord and Savior." and "...there are several ongoing programs for youth to discover, learn and enjoy their faith."
:I don't agree thats its 'full of issues' (especially not my bit :-) ). But I do agree that its a bit messy and badly written in places. The protestant bit that you quote jars with me too, but mainly because it oversimplifies one aspect of Youth Ministry (evangelism), rather than any POV issues. It was on my list of things to amend. If you have oth POV issues I would sugest you either change them yourself (its not a long article after all), or list them here. Incidentally, if you are going to amend articles or add POV boxes, it would be helpful if you would create an ID for yourself and sign your posts. Ray Ellis 17:16, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ray I liked what you have written,  I suggest that if you are interested you expand this article.  I have only a minimal interest in this subject, so I will not be doing much more.  I was just cleaning it up a bit, and in the process made a mistake that you very rightly corrected me on.Foolishben 04:32, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: That section giving each faith group (Christianity, Unitarian Universalism) a section to itself is still annoying me. Partly because the sections are so piddly and small and secondly because there are other ways of analysing the subject (by nation, by objectives, etc). So I would suggest a section called "Youth ministry by faith group", with "Christianity", "Unitarian Universalism" and possibly "Other faiths" dropped down to sub-heading status. That would drop "Protestant" and "Catholic" down to sub-sub-heading status. Any thoughts / objections? Ray Ellis (talk) 17:02, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Youth ministry by faith group

message: :Its methodology is based on the method 'See-Judge-Act-Review-Celebrate' and its action is directed to the youth in their environment or location to become a full citizen through Integral Formation Process, which aims to develop all dimensions of life.
:Full training is training that addresses:
:*The affective dimension, helping the person;
:*The social dimension, reflecting the person in the group and the community;
:*The spiritual dimension, helping to grow in faith;
:*The political dimension, developing critical thinking and helping manufacturing become subject of history;
:*The technical dimension, training for leadership, participatory planning and organization.
:This process happens from when he enters a youth group to become an activist in his own youth ministry or other social movements.
:There may be other specific projects to be developed depending on what the society, neighborhood and community is needed in the moment. Always improving and updating them.
:The Youth Ministry has preferential option for the poor youth and obviously, socially and intellectually impoverished young people in order to  develop projects aimed at improving living conditions from the environment in which they live. These projects happen through actions aim to strengthen the citizenship of young people themselves.
Here ends the removed section Cheers, LindsayHi 19:47, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Youth Work Methodology