Talk:Morgantown, West Virginia

message: For as long as this article is, it cites very, very few sources. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tynedaily (talk • contribs) 
:There are 18 footnotes, eight references, and several "for further reading" external links, so I don't believe that template message is appropriate. If there are specific things that aren't in the public record (such as widely available census information), then tag it with a "citation requested" (""). --69.22.254.111 00:39, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
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message: Yes, SENATE CONCURRENT RESOLUTION NO. 26, from West Virginia, calls it the Congressional Medal of Honor but in 32CFR578.9 and 10 U.S.C. 3741 when the United States Congress and President created the medal, they called it the Medal of Honor.  The article in wikipedia is Medal of Honor, Congressional Medal of Honor is just a redirect to Medal of Honor  That is why I changed the name to the official name of the medal, not the incorrect name that people, including the WV Senate, call it.  Jons63 23:39, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
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message: The demographics section in this article and the Morgantown metropolitan area article need to be updated to the 2010 census.  Duoduoduo (talk) 15:07, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Demographics need updating

message: It has been closed for at least a year. Should it still be included in points of interest? I mentioned it is closed, but feel it should be removed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3TonCatInTheRoom (talk • contribs) 01:53, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The Metropolitan Theatre was closed for years as well until reopening, yet the building itself remained historic. Ditto the Warner Theatre building and marquee / facade, according to the site Cinema Treasures and others. --Tenebrae (talk) 02:50, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough as long as it is noted that it is closed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3TonCatInTheRoom (talk • contribs) 03:06, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I would support removal of the theater.  The facade isn't particularly notable and you can't get inside the building.  If there is a credible effort to reopen the structure, I could see listing it.  There isn't as of now. Bitmapped (talk) 19:02, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you, but as I am new to wikipedia I am not comfortable removing it. If someone did remove it I wouldnt have a problem. As Tenebrae said it might be an historical structure, but it is closed and I dont imagine anyone going out of there to see the facade.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 3TonCatInTheRoom (talk • contribs) 20:18, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I could go either way, but the fact that it has a Wikipedia article leans me in the direction of keeping it. If it's considered non-notable and the article is removed, that's different. But if it's considered notable enough for inclusion in Wikipedia, and if the building and marquee are still there, then it seems counterintuitive to say that on the one hand it's notable, but on the other hand it's not. It either is or isn't notable. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:38, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The Warner Theatre as a 'Point of Interest' should be left in, it is one of the surviving examples of John Eberson's theatre-architecture designs. Shearonink (talk) 00:41, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing Warner Theatre from Points of interest 

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replies: text: Excellent advice - beautifully put, and timely.  Gold star to Shearonink :o)  Pesky (talk …stalk!) 05:03, 24 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Hear hear. Important reminder, this discussion has reeked of biting the newbies. Steven Zhang The clock is ticking.... 06:33, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: For the record, as noted above, I started out being extremely nice, and he attacked me immediately. As recently as two days ago, he was still calling me names. I hope you're not saying you're OK with his schoolyard name-calling, of which I have refrained. He doesn't have the right to call me names. --Tenebrae (talk) 13:03, 26 August 2011 (UTC)

text:  (Redacted):I --3TonCatInTheRoom (talk) 23:11, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The rules should apply to everyone, but you're right that established editors are generally expected to know the rules better than newbies are.  However, your statement "you are acting immature about the whole thing", is, in and of itself, a violation of our civility rules - it's, sadly, more name-calling.  Please don't resort to name-calling, even if it's happened to you.  Two wrongs don't make a right, and never will do.  I think at this stage you should probably redact that comment - a strike-out will do, or you can put that comment into a  envelope. It's time for the incivility to stop, and an apology would not go amiss.  Pesky (talk …stalk!) 10:17, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As these two have been at it for weeks, it may be time to block both of them. I am tired of this talk page being abused for what is now becoming months.  Edits to the page by either one should be automatically reverted.  VMS Mosaic (talk) 12:48, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm all for doing that voluntarily. And I'll stay away from his talk page if he'll stay away from mine.--Tenebrae (talk) 00:20, 30 August 2011 (UTC)

text: I'd like to make a suggestion here. Both editors who have been arguing with each other have made their points about what they view as the inadequate debating style of the other editor. Since these points have been thoroughly made, here is my suggestion: Let's have a permanent truce, in which no further references are made to past alleged debating transgressions. It's obvious to me that both editors care deeply about making this article as good as possible, so henceforth let's just discuss what should go in the article, without referring to past discussions on this page. Duoduoduo (talk) 17:30, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me, a talkpage's purpose is for interested editors to discuss ways to improve the article itself, I don't think the article is up to Good Article status yet. The introductory paragraphs of the History section, for instance, are completely unreferenced. Shearonink (talk) 20:17, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
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message: The Demographics section refers to "Morgantown's age distribution, which is heavily influenced by the presence of West Virginia University, ...." However, the same section also says "As of the census[1] of 2000, there were 26,809 people". The latter clearly refers to the number of townspeople, not counting WVU students from outside Morgantown. So I think some effort is needed to be more precise about what specific population is being referred to in each part of the section.  Duoduoduo (talk) 17:42, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Demographics

message: The quality of the new image is better than the slightly fuzzy previous image. Yet while that one was mostly rooftops, this is one is mostly water and university buildings. Perhaps there is a wide-angle ground-level photo downtown available somewhere? --Tenebrae (talk) 21:09, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox image

message: Morgantown’s motto “Vestigia nulla retrorsum regina monongahelae” has been analyzed in this comment on this Livejournal post about the motto. The comment explains the English translation of the motto and the history it references, and cites an employee of the Morgantown History Museum.
I’m not sure where in this article the information about the motto should go. I’m also not sure if that information needs a better source to be able to be included. Thus, I’m dropping this pointer to the information here in the hopes that someone who knows Wikipedia better can add that information properly. – Rory O'Kane (talk) 21:57, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm afraid Livejournal is an WP:SPS and can't be cited. I'll look around — maybe there's a newspaper article or something somewhere that translates it. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:30, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: And actually, I've found a snippet view of a Polk's City Directory for Morgantown, W.Va., that says the motto is actually "Regina Monongahelae — Vestigia Nulla Retrorsum". I'll fix it with the cite. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:41, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, it's definitely not "The Queen of the Monongahela has nothing to return to." One translation I've found  says "Vestigia Nulla Retrorsum" means "no backward step," which makes a lot more sense. I would also note for the metaphor-challenged Livejournal writer that "Queen of the Monongahela" clearly does not refer to a beauty pageant but to the town itself. I'll try a Latin dictionary next. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:52, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

text: Google Translate isn't much use: "Trace back." Right. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:54, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

text: From a couple of others, it does appear to mean "No backward step," but since this would be original research and may not even be exactly correct, so I don't think we can translate it offhand. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:59, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explanation of city motto found – how should we include it? 

message: According to an ad by WVU, the town was named "No. 1 Small City in America" by BizJournals.com.  I haven't been able to confirm it at that Web site, though. Kdammers (talk) 02:28, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
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message: Sabraton is a neighborhood within the incorporated city limits of Morgantown. The Sabraton, West Virginia article is just a stub which can easily be incorporated within the larger Morgantown article. Bitmapped (talk) 00:19, 17 June 2017 (UTC)
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