Talk:Société de transport de Montréal

message: "Montreal abandoned the last of its streetcars in favour of buses". Wasn't Montreal largely in favour of underground metro and trolleybuses rather than boring old diesel buses?Myrtone (the strict Australian wikipedian)(talk)
True, but look at recent developments, as the Mayor wants to get back into Streetcars
Bacl-presby 22:43, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Close.  MacDonald was a Montreal Park and Island Railway right of way that connected Monklands Blvd (now Decarie) to the right of way east of what used to be Laurentian Blvd that eventually turned into Grenet St.  The 17 car used this from Snowdon Junction, then later the Garland Terminal to a terminal in Cartierville near Ranger St.  ETBs ran from 1937 to 1966.  I've not seen a list of car lines that were converted to ETBs.  Not many, I don't think, with many more going straight to gas or Diesel bsues --plaws (talk) 17:26, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Montreal street rail

message: I lived in the Montreal area from 1965 to 1970; throughout this time, "Can Car" buses were prominent in public transport systems. It was amazing (given how quickly cars rusted out) to see the old Brills in service year after year. Some were still running in 1980. The newer Can Car buses, the TD-51s (seen in the 1964 movie The Luck of Ginger Coffey), did not seem to be so durable. They were harder to find by 1970 and I didn't see any during a 1980 visit. Tony 09:30, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Canada Car and Foundry]] buses

message: * Marc Dufour's site (French-only) contains maps of various unbuilt subway projects This is one link that won't open.  Peter Horn 19:10, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The first one opens again. The second does not, but try to surf thru Exporail  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Peter Horn (talk • contribs) 02:08, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Société de transport de Montréal#References/External links|External links]]

message: once this section is sourced and more complete, a summary of it might be interesting on the main page. At least we can document it going forward. Jethero 01:50, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historial Fares 

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message: Peter Horn 01:55, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone please fix this immage? 

message: I started to populate the info box but we are missing important information such as the system length (to be compared with other public transit systems).  Could anyone help look this up? Knightdaemon (talk) 20:27, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update and populate Infobox 

message: It's an encyclopedia article not a catalog of every streetcar and bus that ever ran on the property!  I've rearranged the sections to, you know, make sense to people.  I think the trolley and bus minutiae should go in a separate article.  Really.  I mean, *I* know what a SE DT car is, but well over 99.9998% of the people in the world don't ... and don't care ... even if some of them are interested in the STM. --plaws (talk) 21:08, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I see it's been made worse of late.  I'll see if I can find the time to split the fleet (Diesel, electric, or horse) into its own article.  Yeesh. --plaws (talk) 19:06, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Still is, Plaws of 2010.  I just did another re-org that I'm sure someone will hate and revert.  It's about the system, not about the technology.  --plaws (talk) 17:28, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Achieved my lifelong dream of breaking the streetcar stuff off into its own article.  Please edit Streetcars in Montreal.  --plaws (talk) 20:18, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gahh.  What a mess! 

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message: From the article:  "The STM operates the third most heavily used urban mass transit system in North America, after the New York City Transit Authority, and the Mexico City Metro."
Might be factually incorrect.
The citation provided does not list Toronto Transit Commission, which is generally considered the most heavily used transit system in Canada.
--67.70.38.12 (talk) 20:28, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I was going to update the cite with the 2012Q4 APTA numbers, but they seem wrong - only something on the order of 1.7M riders/day.  I emailed APTA to find out what the deal was - no reply yet. --plaws (talk) 20:12, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The STM operates the third most heavily used urban mass transit system in North America 

message: ...is "termini" or even "terminuses." See wiktionary:terminus. Similarly, the plural of "bus" is "buses" or "busses." Unlike in French where a word ending in 's' is invariable, in English, you must use the plural form even if it sounds a little awkward. The reason you might not be familiar with the word is because we don't typically use "terminus" in English; in this case it is a direct translation from the French. —JmaJeremy talk contribs 03:17, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The plural of "terminus" 

message: How does “not officially” become “linked” out of the blue? Was it officially linked, or is that just POV? No sign of a source, much less any discussion, just a major change in meaning. Plus, the rest of the sentence becomes awkward.A Source Monster (talk) 11:57, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Officially linked? 

message: The bus section needs fixing.  Desperately.  Started in 1962?  Huh?  Two-digit bus route numbers phased out in the 60s?  (route numbers below 10 were taken by the Metro)  Really a mess.  I think I'll work on a table that at least indicates the new number classes. 
Further, the article should, IMHO, either be solely about the STM or about public transit in Montreal.  I'm thinking it should be the former, with all the historical stuff and references to other transit agencies (AMT, RTL, etc) put into a new article (assuming there isn't one already - guess I should look). --plaws (talk) 21:31, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I did a bunch of cleanup and re-arranging on the bus stuff.  If you want to include the stuff I deleted, go look in the history and cut/paste the old stuff back in (don't revert - it's crap) and fix it.  Trying to find a list of terminals but can't find one.  There are a LOT, some of which are regional and run by AMT.  Would be nice to have a list of those that are used by STM..  --plaws (talk) 20:10, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bus section 

message: Updated it with dates from STM.  Anyone care to add some content about the 1951 transition from Montreal Tramways Co to Montreal Transport Commission?  Was it a buy out?  (meaning same corporate body) Purchase of assets? (new corporate body using assets of another)  Expropriation?  
And what happened in 1985?  I vaguely remember that it was the MUCTCommission was "spun off" to the MUCTCorporation ... but ... why?  Anyone know?  
Someone should also write about the Montreal Tramways Commission that existed starting in at least 1918 and seemed to have some sort of regulatory control over the Tramways Co. --plaws (talk) 20:36, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corporate timeline 

message: Why?  Because this article should be about the STM as it is today.  Historical context is important (and fun!) but it doesn't all need to be here.  
I propose stripping out anything that isn't about STM today to streamline this article.  I propose a new article, perhaps Public Transportation in Montreal, that would have sections on STM, RTL, STL, AMT, and probably the CITs as well, with links to each of the existing articles.
The hierarchy would be something like:
*Public Transportation in Montreal (or whatever name)
**AMT
**STM
***Montreal Metro
**STL
**RTL
**CITs
**Streetcars in Montreal
**et cetera
... the idea being that someone looking for information on public transit in Montreal would end up at that top page and then find out that there are multiple providers depending on where one is rather than ending up at the STM page and not really realizing that there is more to the puzzle.
Who's with me??  :-) --plaws (talk) 16:20, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you, although I would suggest expanding the public transit section of Transportation in Montreal with the split information rather than creating a new article.--MTLskyline (talk) 22:51, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm.  That might work.  I'll have to give that article a look and see what needs to be done.  Thanks for the tip - apparently I didn't search with enough keywords! --plaws (talk) 21:10, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Good call.  I've started editing it - thanks! --plaws (talk) 14:47, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal:  Reorganize to take out all non-STM information and ... 

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message: Does this company have an English name, and, if so, why isn't it used? Thanks. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 02:30, 16 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of this outfit 

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