Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Terrorism/Archive 1

message: Off the top of my head, here are some subjects that ought to be covered.
General: Terrorism, Definition of terrorism, Template:terrorism, Mujahideen, Jihad, Freedom fighter, List of terrorist organisations, Suicide bomber, Counter-terrorism, Nationalist terrorism, Domestic terrorism, Terrorist front organization, Eco-terrorism, International conventions on terrorism, List of terrorist incidents, List of organisations involved in religious terrorism, Narcoterrorism, Anarchist terrorism, FBI Most Wanted Terrorists
Japanese Red Army: Haruo Wako, Osamu Maruoka, Shigenobu, Yu Kikumura, Yoshimi Tanaka, Yukiko Ekita, Kozo Okamoto, Masao Adachi, Lod Airport massacre, Japan Airlines Flight 472, Malaysia Airlines Flight 653
Irgun: List of Irgun attacks during the 1930s, David Raziel, Lehi (group), Avraham Tehomi, Deir Yassin, King David Hotel bombing, Uri Avnery, Yitzhak Shamir
ETA: Grupos Antiterroristas de Liberación, Francisco Mujika Garmendia, José Luis Alvarez Santacristina, José María Arregi Erostarbe
Palestine Liberation Organization: Fatah - the Revolutionary Council, Abu Nidal, Yasser Arafat, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine, Black September (group), Munich massacre, Salah Khalaf, Khartoum diplomatic assassinations, Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine - General Command, Avivim school bus massacre, Dawson's Field hijackings (Leila Khaled and Patrick Arguello), Kiryat Shmona massacre, Ma'alot massacre, Achille Lauro, Al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigades, Marwan Barghouti, Zakaria Zubeidi, Popular Resistance Committees, Palestinian Islamic Jihad Movement
Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam: Velupillai Prabhakaran, S. Subramanian, Anton Balasingham, Sea Tigers, Thenmuli Rajaratnam
Hamas: Muslim Brotherhood, History of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, History of the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria, Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades, Yahya Ayyash, Abdel Aziz al-Rantissi, Ahmed Yassin, Salah Shahade, Adnan al-Ghoul, Mohammed Deif, Salah Shahade, Wa'el Nassar, Salama Hamad, Imad Abbas, Nidal Fat'hi Rabah Farahat, Imad Aqel, Mahmoud al-Zahar, Netanya suicide attack, Patt junction massacre, Jerusalem bus 20 massacre, Jerusalem bus 2 massacre, Ibrahim al-Makadmeh, Members of Hamas called Qawasameh, Mohammad Taha, Khaled Mashal, Mousa Abu Marzuk, Izz El-Deen Sheikh Khalil
Provisional Irish Republican Army: Seán Mac Stíofáin, Dáithí Ó Conaill, Joe Cahill, IRA Army Council, Bloody Friday, Continuity Irish Republican Army, Real Irish Republican Army, Balcombe Street Siege, Birmingham Six, Birmingham pub bombings, Guildford Four, Brighton hotel bombing
Hezbollah: William R. Higgins, 1983 Beirut barracks bombing, Islamic Jihad, April 1983 U.S. Embassy bombing, William Francis Buckley, Mohammad Hussein Fadlallah, Abbas al-Musawi, Israeli Embassy attack in Buenos Aires, AMIA Bombing, Imad Mugniyah, Ibrahim Hussein Berro, Alas Chiricanas Flight 00901, TWA Flight 847, Mohammed Ali Hammadi, Imad Mugniyah, Hassan Izz-Al-Din, Al-Manar
Red Army Faction: Andreas Baader, Thorwald Proll, Gudrun Ensslin, Horst Söhnlein, German Autumn, Brigitte Mohnhaupt, Christian Klar, Susanne Albrecht, Landshut Hijacking
Al-Qaeda: Oplan Bojinka, September 11, 2001 attacks, 11 March 2004 Madrid train bombings, and many, many more
Others: Action Directe (urban guerrillas), Revolutionary Armed Forces of Colombia, Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia, Boricua Popular Army, Red Brigades, Shining Path, Weatherman (organization)
Lone-wolf terrorism: Eric Robert Rudolph, Timothy McVeigh, Baruch Goldstein, David Copeland, John Allen Muhammad, Lee Boyd Malvo, Theodore Kaczynski
Tangentially or controversially related: Earth Liberation Front, Animal Liberation Front, Tali Fahima, Khalid bin Mahfouz
I fill in more as I have time. – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 04:37, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: By all means, edit some of these into sections on the main page - I moved over the Japanese Red Army earlier today.  I'm left wondering if we should discount Irgun and try to focus on the terrorism since 1970 (1960?), to further pinpoint our focus...but then we cut out what some might see as a POV balance (other than the 1994 Mosque of Abraham massacre) - the other question that will arise is whether we want to include articles on Shamil Basayev as organizer of Beslan, or Khalid Sheikh Mohammed as an architect of 9/11...or stick only to the direct terrorists involved in the actual event.  Personally I favour the latter approach, again to try and cut down on the numbers. Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 07:22, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Finally, to pare it down a bit more, to avoid things like Jerusalem bus 2 massacre or December 2005 Palu bombing, that we also state that it's dealing with organized terrorism, or something, to avoid having to list all ___ suicide bombers and such? Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 07:28, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

text: This projects concerns only "acts of terrorism" (as defined above) that occured since XXX (1975? 1990? 2000?) and killed over XXX people (10?). The project concerns the acts themselves, their perpetrators, victims, and surrounding topics.
What do you think? Is this a good way to be thorough, yet narrow the scope? We could call it the "contemporary terrorism" project if we wanted to be more precise. – Quadell (talk) 
(bounties) 01:27, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well the Munich Massacre and Dawson's Field hijackings were 1972 and 1970 respectively, and personally I'd say they epitomize the "golden age" of terrorism, at least in the West - so I'd suggest making the date 1970.  Whether or not we should include a minimum death count I'm wary, since many things, like the hijackings, did not end up with any fatalities (other than the hijackers), but still sowed terror, made global headlines, and were the birth of a new movement.
=== More terminology ===
* Al-Qaeda
** There is what THEY call the Crusaders for which I do not see a Wiki article explaining this belief system.  There is reference to the medieval crusades, which occurred before the USA came into being.
* Fatwa is a religious part of Islam in the absense of Sharia or Islamic secular law.  It is important to make sure there are no attacks on normal parts of a religion because some parts of it have been used by some religious leaders to foment war against the West.
** The fatwas proclaimed by Osama bin Ladin have got enormous press coverage, distorting the meaning of fatwa in the eyes of non-Muslims. 
*** Oops, he issued two separate fatwas
*** 1996 titled: "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places."
*** 1998 has 3 grievances
**** U.S. occupation of the Arabian Peninsula (at the invitation of nations there to protect them from Saddam after invasion of Kuwait)
**** U.S. aggression against the Iraqi people (aftermath of Saddam invasion of Kuwait)
**** U.S. support of Israel 
**  Pat Robertson issued a Christian equivalent of a fatwa, calling for the assassination of Hugo Chávez, then withdrew it after heavy criticism.
User:AlMac|(talk) 08:15, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Subjects

message: * Al-Qaeda
** There is what THEY call the Crusaders for which I do not see a Wiki article explaining this belief system.  There is reference to the medieval crusades, which occurred before the USA came into being.
* Fatwa is a religious part of Islam in the absense of Sharia or Islamic secular law.  It is important to make sure there are no attacks on normal parts of a religion because some parts of it have been used by some religious leaders to foment war against the West.
** The fatwas proclaimed by Osama bin Ladin have got enormous press coverage, distorting the meaning of fatwa in the eyes of non-Muslims. 
*** Oops, he issued two separate fatwas
*** 1996 titled: "Declaration of War against the Americans Occupying the Land of the Two Holy Places."
*** 1998 has 3 grievances
**** U.S. occupation of the Arabian Peninsula (at the invitation of nations there to protect them from Saddam after invasion of Kuwait)
**** U.S. aggression against the Iraqi people (aftermath of Saddam invasion of Kuwait)
**** U.S. support of Israel 
**  Pat Robertson issued a Christian equivalent of a fatwa, calling for the assassination of Hugo Chávez, then withdrew it after heavy criticism.
User:AlMac|(talk) 08:15, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More terminology 

message: I'll try to contribute as I can, but doubt I'll be able to do enough to call myself a "participant" (I'm in poor health)... I see you running into all kinds of controversy from people who deny any difference between stealth attacks on innocent civilians and nation-state military actions, but by my lights there is indeed an objective difference with real moral implications, and I hope you can hold the line on that. JDG 20:03, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good luck on this 

message: main article
|Barzan Ibrahim al-Tikriti
|Taha Yassin Ramadan
|Awad Hamed al-Bandar
|Abdullah Kadhem Roweed Al-Musheikhi
|Mizher Abdullah Roweed Al-Musheikhi
|Ali Daeem Ali
|Mohammed Azawi Ali
Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 20:17, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Taking off main page, throwing back here behind the curtain

message: 9/11 hijackers, we seem to say "They also used the alias..." quite a bit, when it seems like a slightly POV term, when these are almost entirely FBI mix-ups, or media misspellings, not aliases.  I'm in favour of keeping the list of additional names for a reader to search for online, but think we should instead say "His name was at various times identified as..." - thoughts? Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 13:54, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So long as the name is very similar, that sounds like a good idea. I'd be careful about "Zaid Jarrahi" in particular, since that is the focus of quite a bit of contoversy - but that article says "There are many variations on his name, including. . .", which should be fine. – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 14:07, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Arabic names seem more prone to innocent nicknames, even without the complications of different transliterations.  And some cultures, like Russian, Native American, and, it seems, some Arabic cultures, seem more prone to apply innocent nick-names to people.  See the Combatant Status Review Tribunal for Abdullah Kamel Abdullah Kamel Al Kandari -- his name is spelled half a dozen different ways in his dossier.  Yet, he was told that he was detained because his name matched one found on a hard drive captured from another al Qaeda suspect's computer.  --  Geo Swan 16:40, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No kidding. Check out Abu Nidal, born "Sabri Khalil al-Banna", also known as "Amin al-Sirr" and "Sabri Khalil Abd Al Qadir" -- and each of these could be spelled 50 different ways! – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 16:56, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trolling for opinions

message: Just as per the earlier discussions on the difference between what is known about the hijackers (Hani Hanjour enrolled at Sawyer Aviation), and what is only 'known' about them, but widely reported by the media (Atta enjoyed lapdances, based on the testimony of strippers who recognise his face), I think I found my favourite, where this link indicates Folks at the Chapel of Love quickie-marriage emporium even swear they saw Atta driving a cab.  Heh Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 11:45, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Heh

message: there is no doubt that Al qaeda is the number1 terrorist organisation in the world,and it is not listed here.so i have.
and by the way,how come this project doesnt have templates?
Mes Aynak?--Jayanthv86 18:45, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  important in the present scenario 

message: Although the article doesn't appear on your project page, I guess this article would fit into your project, since al-Manar has been listed as a terrorist organization by the state department: I would like to improve/expand/ the article on this tv station (possible even to FA status) and was hoping you guys would be interested in helping me. I have searched the whole internet for sources and listed them as a sub-page of my user page.  Would you be interested in helping here?--Carabinieri 10:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Al-Manar]]

message: Check the archives.  A lot of key topics there.
For example.  Osama bin Laden, and his representatives, have made several speeches trying to explain why they declared war on America, and what it is they want ... their conditions for peace.  Does their position have a place in this Wikipedia, and can it be protected from vandalism? User:AlMac|(talk) 04:59, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it does, and it can be only with vigilance. – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 12:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Talk:Terrorism]] 

message: Way too much self-serving identification of groups and individuals as terrorists here.  Where is Luis Posada Carriles, the mastermind behind the explosion of a Cuban airliner?
Where is the discussion of false-flag terrorism, used by certain countries to frame their political enemies?
Clearly this page and project has been started with the intent of demonizing anti-american and anti-Israeli "terrorists".  So much of the information here, esp. the identities of the WTC demolition-related hijackers is based on nothing more than the assertions of a lying administration... talk about revisionist history...
:Any constructive criticism is welcomed. Luis Posada Carriles should indeed be a part of this project, for instance. But it's important to assume good faith. I listed Israeli terrorists as well as Muslim terrorists. – Quadell (talk) (bounties) 13:08, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Aye, similarily, I welcome the addition of any notable terrorists of any stripe.  The two that I am most familiar with are the Beslan hostagetaking (which was not religiously motivated, so can hardly be called anti-Muslim...I've actually been one of the people keeping the term "Islamic terrorists" off the Beslan page for months now - and the 9/11 hijackers, who I definitely don't think I villanize, and instead grow paranoid about whitewashing.  Try actually reading articles before you complain about them, and where you see gaps, help us fill them :) Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 13:32, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is the proof? 

message: Can we add the pages on Counterterrorism and antiterrorism to this project, or must we only refer to individuals here? I ask this because my expertise is in my experience wtih CT/AT tactics in the military, not history. ⇒  SWATJester 20:23, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Counter/anti terrorism

message: Just stumbled on this and find the project attractive; however, I do not have much time on my hands these days - so, I'll leave a note. Babbar Khalsa seems to be ok, but the articles on the terrorists mentioned there need to be started or improved. I see regular discussions on Talk:Nelson Mandela as to the contention that he is a freedom-fighter vs. the one which calls him a terrorist. I see the same on Talk:Terrorism in Kashmir as well, so someone may want to step in. --Gurubrahma 08:47, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  India related articles 

message: I took liberty in adding the German Red Army Fraction and the German Autumn to the project page. I feel that these articles also could need some work. Ben  T/C  03:02, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Army Fraction 

message: While I really hate to bring even more opinions to this article, it could really use expanding. Can someone here help out? It is becoming incredibly hard to find anything verifiable on this sniper/freedom fighter/terrorist. Thanks. --The1exile - Talk - Contribs 16:49, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Juba (sniper) 

message: Hello - would someone with more knowledge on the subject look at The Order (group) and the related David Lane & Robert Jay Mathews entries and decide if this group and the individuals involved meet the amorphous criteria of domestic terrorists? There has been some contention about the matter over at Talk:David Lane. These entries have a "fan base" and The Order & Robert Jay Mathews are pure starry-eyed fancruft at the moment. David Lane is tagged with the terrorist category, but the other two are not. I argued that David Lane meets the criteria, but now I am bowing to the experts on the subject to determine if this is an accurate representation. WeniWidiWiki 23:09, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for feedback

message: He's no terrorist! It was a mistake! Keep up with the times, man! Foriegners shouldn't add someone that they don't know everything about! They should ask here! --NatovR 16:38, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jean Charles de Menezes??!! 

message: Replaced "stub" with "good" - acknowledging how much work was spent on this. The main problem remaining is when his brother was released from prison. Various reports clash with the version of Der Spiegel.
User:Pan_Gerwazy--pgp 23:38, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Khodov 

message: I have started work on OEF articles. There was talk by a user of wanting to merge OEF into Afghan war so I began to expand the article to show its more then just Afghanistan that its related to. I am currently looking for OEF-HOA, Horn of Africa, related information so I can begin an article on that, currently just have some senate reports about it. --zero faults |sockpuppets| 14:27, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea, that merge is unecessary considering OEF was more than Afghanistan, I will try to help out there. Rangeley 14:33, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Operation Enduring Freedom

message: We could clean this one up a bit more, its pretty sparse as is. Rangeley 02:22, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I will take a look at it tomorrow if my work load is light. --zero faults |sockpuppets| 02:55, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have some information regarding captures AQ members, high ranking people. Just do not know how to put it in or format it. I will throw the links here and a summary, trying to avoid creating a massive timeline.
* - USAToday - May 4th, 2005
**Pakistani commandos capture Abu Faraj al-Libbi after a raid outside the town of Mardan, 30 miles north of Peshwar. Abu Farraj al-Libbi was a high ranking al-Qaeda official, rumored to be 3rd after Osama bin Laden and Ayman al-Zawahiri. al-Libbi replaced Khalid Shaikh Mohammed after his arrest in March of 2003 in connection with the September 11th attacks. The Pakistani government arrested al-Libbi and held him on charges in relation to being a chief planner in two assassination attempts on the life of President Pervez Musharraf in December 2003.
* - CNN - April 1st, 2002
**The Saudi born Zayn al-Abidn Muhammed Hasayn Abu Zubaydah was arrested by Pakistani officials during a series of joint US and Pakistan raids during the week of March 23, 2002. During the raid the suspect was shot three times while trying to escape capture by military personnel. Zubaydah is said to be a high ranking al-Qaeda official with the title of operations chief and in charge of running al-Qaeda training camps. 
* - CNN - March 1st, 2003
**Khalid Shaikh Mohammed was arrested during CIA-led raids on the suburd of Rawalpindi, nine miles outside of the Pakistan capital of Islamabad. Mohammed at the time of his capture was the third highest ranking official in al-Qaeda and directly in charge of the planning for the September 11th attacks. Escaping capture the week before during a previous raid, the Pakistani government was able to use information gathered from other suspects captured to locate and detain Mohammed. Mohammed was indicted in 1996 by the United States government for links to the "Manilla air conspiracy", a plot to bomb a series of U.S. civilian airliners. Other events Mohammed has been linked to include; ordering the killing of Wall Street Journal reporter Daniel Pearl, USS Cole bombing, Richard Reids attempt to blow up a civilian airliner with a shoe bomb, the terrorist attack at the El Ghriba synagogue in Djerba, Tunisia. Khalid Shaikh Mohammed has described himself as the head of the al-Qaeda military committee.
* - Pavda - September 14th, 2002
**Ramzi Binalshibh was arrested in Pakistan after a three-hour gunfight with police forces. Binalshibh is known to have shared a room with Mohammad Atta in Hamburg, Germany and to be a financial backer of al-Qaeda operations. It is said Binalshibh was suppose to be another hijacker, however the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services] rejected his visa application three times, leaving him to the role of financier. The trail of money transffered from Binalshibh in Germany to the United States links both to Mohammad Atta and to Zacarias Moussaoui.
I added all this to the Waziristan article under a section titled Success, and rearranged it to be chronologically correct. --zero faults |sockpuppets| 18:04, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Waziristan War 

message: Were you all aware of this pre-existing (January '06) WikiProject?  Your scope seems a little more expansive than theirs.  Anyway, go take a look.  GRBerry 03:40, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Terrorism]] 

message: Pasban e Islam has been nominated for deletion.  Reading the article and the one substantive comment on the AFD, the organization has been associated with terrorism.  The  AFD has been relisted for more input, and I thought you might be a group in good position to give more input and or improve the article to address the nominators concerns.  GRBerry 22:09, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Added my voice of support for the article, also threw it on my own backburner of things to google around and see if I can find any more information to add in the near future. Much thanks for the heads-up :) Sherurcij (talk) (Terrorist Wikiproject) 22:48, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AFD Relisted for more input 

message: This is a newly formed project with a more expansive scope.  They've decided to target anything that can be categorized at :Category:Terrorism  or it's subcategories.  Take a look.  GRBerry 03:43, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Terrorism and counter-terrorism]] 

message: This appears to be a comprehensive effort to help articles dealing with this important subject.  I am also interested in this area, especially in counterterrorism and links between terror organizations and state-sponsors.  Since I do not know my way around the project yet, I would like to ask a few questions.  Under what category is the War on Terrorism article found?  Is there a category under counterterrorism for the Operation Iraqi Freedom documents article?  Is there a category suitable for the Saddam Hussein and al-Qaeda article?  I have not looked yet, but there should be an article on Hezbollah and al-Qaeda.  Is there a category for articles that discuss the relationship between terror organizations?  Thanks for helping me find my way around. RonCram 12:21, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comprehensive effort 

message: Ziad Jarrah is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality. Sandy 22:25, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Ziad Jarrah]]

message: Me and some other editors have been creating this article and would like help and think it should be part of the project. Is it ok for me to add the terrorism project template on the talk page of the article? I have just joined today.Hypnosadist 15:59, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Al-Manar]]

message: Jimbo Wales highly recommended to delete the article about the SPK and all links to the Wikipedia-project terrorism. See our recent Boston meeting, see the juridical proceedings of SPK against Wikipedia.
:I assume you mean "delete reference to the SPK article in this project", not deleting the actual article itself.  Assuming that's what you mean, I actually agree with you, I had removed it myself once already while tidying up the main page since it didn't seem to fit within the scope at all.  Let's give it a week, and see if we can get (non-votestacked) 75% consensus to remove it. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead)  12:55, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jimbo Wales highly recommended ... 

message: Should we create an article of these attempted bombings of trains in germany.  Hypnosadist 23:46, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Attempted Bombing in Germany

message: Considering that the two projects have a significant amount of overlap, I was wondering whether the members of this project would consider merging the project with the Wikipedia:WikiProject Terrorism and counter-terrorism. Badbilltucker 23:30, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay by me. LDH 09:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merger of projects 

message: Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory.  This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.  B2T2 22:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project directory 

message: Hello, 
:I hope I'm not taking up too much of everyones time, however, a few months ago I was working on a timeline of terrorist activities based on the same format as my other timeline's on organized crime, piracy and the American Wild West. While it was unfortunatly nominated for deletion due to concerns regarding its encyclopedic worth, it was restored on my user page where I had begun working on putting entries in to more specific timeslines (see Timeline of the Irish Republican Army) and I was curious if this might be of any help to the project ? The original timeline was compiled from the following references, with exception to information from the official United Nations and Interpol websites: 
*Crenshaw, Martha and John Pimlott, ed. Encyclopedia of World Terrorism. Armonk, NY: Sharpe Reference, 1997.  
*Kushner, Harvey. Encyclopedia of Terrorism. Thousand Oaks, CA: Sage Publications Inc., 2003  
*Henderson, Harry. Terrorism. New York: Facts On File Inc., 2001.  
*Mickolus, Edward F. and Susan L. Simmons. Terrorism, 1996-2001: a chronology. Westport, CT: Greenwood Press, 2002.  
*Sawinski, Diane and Matthew May. Terrorism: Biographies. Farmington Hills, MI: Gale Group Inc., 2003. 
I've also been working on missing topics lists based on these specific books as well, it it would be any help to the project in the future. MadMax 04:41, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline of terrorism 

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention.  Badbilltucker 23:26, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: I've been asking around on various crime and criminology related WikiProjects concerning a proposal for WikiProject Crime and, if the project gains support, weither members of WikiProject Terrorism and other projects would be interested in forming a Portal:Crime in order to organize and coordinate overlapping crime and criminology related projects ? MadMax 21:57, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Crime 

message: I've done my best to help this article, and I thought I'd draw attention to it from other editors.  It still needs help. --Saswann 18:53, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Lone wolf (terrorism)]] 

message: I tagged Project Megiddo with this Project--what else needs to be done? I wasn't sure if this or the general Terror project would be better, either... thoughts? F.F.McGurk 21:30, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Project Megiddo]] 

message: See this proposal for a terrorist campaign box under the terror attack infobox. --TheFEARgod (Ч) 23:06, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Campaignbox 

message: I'm creating a new article 2007 Plot to Behead a British Muslim Soldier. Hypnosadist 00:00, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ooh, nice - I'll try to give a hand. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead)  05:38, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: Article has been merged into a preexisting one on the subject. KazakhPol 06:08, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New article

message: Two users, or possibly one, Aaliyah Stevens and Cs, tried to delete Terrorism in Kazakhstan. The AFD failed (66% voted in favor of keeping it), but they have effectively refused to accept the community's consensus. Cs has moved the page to "Potential for Terrorism in Kazakhstan." I find this title and other edits to this page by these two users to be ridiculous. Opinions on what the title of the article should be (on Talk:Potential for Terrorism in Kazakhstan) are welcomed. KazakhPol 03:56, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Terrorism in Kazakhstan

message: Somebody may want to check out List of terrorist attacks in Canada - it looks like it's been vandalized.  Last modified 13:23, 19 March 2007.
It's been a while since I read up on the subject, but I don't recall Orlando Bosch being "a extremely radical homosexal activist", among other gems.
I'd do it myself, but I don't have the time to do the research to do it right.
--161.203.16.1 18:06, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad Info on Page 

message: Hello everyone, I'll glad to have suggestions on improving the template listing terrorist groups active in india LegalEagle 10:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Template listing terror groups active in [[India]]

message: There has been some recent discssion of a crime related Wikipedia newsletter based on a collaberation of the various WikiProjects such as WP:CRIME, WP:BRITCRIME, ect. and I was wondering if WikiProject Terrorism might be interested in working on such a project ? MadMax 12:06, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Newsletter

message: I've been trying to track down the "sponsor" for "Infobox terrorist organization", but without success (cf. Liberation Tigers of Tamil Eelam) to resolve an issue concerning an unclear entry line. I'd appreciate it if someone could point me to the right place. TIA, Askari Mark (Talk) 05:09, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox terrorist organization 

message: If anyone is seeking a good source for which to expand articles in this project, there is a book I have recently read about halfway through called "Al Qaeda in Europe" it goes into several plots, members, other events and more. I am bringing this up because I have noticed a lot of stubs and I think this book would prove to be a great source.
comedy_watcher 17:07, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds useful, haven't seen it in bookstores around here myself - but I'll keep an eye out. Feel free to bookmark a few pages with particularly interesting members and create new articles on them (and keep us updated and we'll try to help find more information)
Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead)  17:44, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good source to use 

message: Right now I believe that the project is the only one in the field which clearly deals with terrorism which does article assessment. Would the rest of you favor broadening the scope of the project to include all articles directly relating to terrorism and related issues, like maybe the articles in the :Category:Terrorism, so that these articles could be assessed and included within its scope? John Carter 13:53, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I favor that --TheFEARgod (Ч) 20:45, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scope of project? 

message: I thought this was only about non-state terrorism. Isn't Hamas part of an elected government? Although it is accurate to say that Palestine is not currently a state. Organ123 17:09, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent inclusion of Hamas 

message: I see that there's been a lot of discussion above about the issue of state terrorism. I am also uncomfortable with the notion of a terrorism project that excludes states. Therefore I think that this project should be renamed something like "Non-state terrorism" to be more precise. Organ123 17:12, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As per the discussion above about broadening the scope of the project, given that this project is to date the only one doing assessments, with new collabortion and peer review units (not yet really active, trying to do assessments first), I at least proposed that the project expand its scope to deal with the entire :Category:Terrorism, with at least one other member of the project having agreed to it. I hadn't yet made changes to the page itself, though, although I guess I should have done that first. Would you, as an individual, have any objections to such a broadening of the project's scope? John Carter 17:51, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would not object to broadening the project to mirroring the scope of Category:Terrorism. That would negate the need to change the project to "Non-state terrorism". Organ123 18:33, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename project to "Non-state terrorism" 

message: I know that interest in the subject has somewhat waned recently from the heights it reached earlier, but I wonder whether the rest of you think that there would be any interest in creating a portal for terrorism articles. If not, if you could list below which portals you think would be most relevant to this project, I would appreciate it very much. John Carter 18:31, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terrorism Portal? 

message: Wow. The Terrorism Portal is being added to some articles that have nothing to do with terrorism. Based on what criteria was this portal added to American Indian Movement? The word terrorism appears nowhere in the article and any assertion that AIM was a terrorist organization would be highly POV. They weren't even guerrillas. - N1h1l 03:29, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on the fact that it is included in the List of designated terrorist organizations. The banner has now been adjusted to include reference to "allegations of terrorism", which at the very least inclusion in such a list constitutes. Also, another banner is being created to assist in determining which of these entities and people qualify as being "terrorist". John Carter 13:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Given the failure to specify the "notable organization" that has designated AIM terrorist, I suspect that the inclusion on List of designated terrorist organizations constitutes original research. - N1h1l 04:02, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added the relevant cites. It was the FBI that labeled AIM as an "extremist" organization because of the "terrorist" bombings, etc.Verklempt 23:30, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For what little it's worth, I would suggest that, unless they used the word "terrorist" or an equivalent they may not deserve to be on the list. "Extremist" doesn't mean the same as "terrorist". However, if they did refer to "terrorist" bombings, then I think that that use of the word would probably be sufficient for inclusion. John Carter 13:49, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: No not terrorists, why? they are not designated as such by the US government and no members have been convicted of terrorist crimes in a court. Terrorist is not the same as strong political views or groups that perform political civil disobedience. 17:22, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If the source which indicated they were involved in "other terrorist activity" can be specified, and if, as indicated, the US federal government did describe at least some of their actions as being "terrorist", then I guess the question is does a group which engages in activity specifically described as "terrorist" by that area's government qualify as a "terrorist" group? Personally, I would think yes, as I'm no big fan of splitting hairs, but I would need to see the specific citation first. I would welcome any responses to the question above, however, as I think the question may well arise in a variety of other instances as well. John Carter 17:37, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It would take me a while to get the relevant source on AIM back, since I got it originally through inter-library loan. But there is no point in my retrieving the source until we sort out the definitional issue. Here it is: Does a group that has been accused of terrorist acts, but has not been explicitly labeled as a terrorist group, qualify for inclusion here? I would say yes--the acts being more significant than the label. In the case of AIM, it is true that no members were convicted of the bombings. However, there is court testimony that the bombs were made and planted by Dave Hill, Leonard Peltier, and Anna Mae Aquash, and this is generally acknowledged as correct within the movement.Verklempt 19:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  American Indian Movement = Terrorists? 

message: It honestly hadn't occurred to me that there would be significant emotional response to the adding of the project banner, for which I apologize. I have created a rough beginning template based on one of the Fascism WikiProject, , which seeks to determine whether the subject qualifies as "terrorist". I am aware that it could use some work, particularly on phrasing, and would welcome any reasonable additions to it. John Carter 14:41, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of "terrorism" 

message: The image on the talk page template for this wikiproject has now been changed twice. Do we have consensus for a particular image yet?--SefringleTalk 18:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not even close, sorry to say. I misread the histories and got the mistaken impression the project was basically inactive, and tried to start reviving it. Evidently I was in error, and I apologize. John Carter 20:56, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

text: As the one who changed it, I technically agree with you - logos are a bad idea.  Previously we had the "iconic" image of the Munich hostagetaker leaning over the balcony (but it was copyrighted), and then a group of three black-clad Basques (I believe?) giving a press conference from a distance (just not a clear image at all, press conferences aren't exactly terrorism).  If possible I'd love to avoid using a September 11 image as it is "overplayed" in many people's perception of the history of terrorism...but at the same time, something like the King David bombings isn't going to be a very iconic or recognisable image.  I'd definitely love to see some suggestions though. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead)  22:06, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Talk page template

message: Hi, please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Hindutva terrorism. deeptrivia (talk) 04:35, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please add it to Wikipedia:WikiProject Deletion sorting/Terrorism--SefringleTalk 04:37, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done. deeptrivia (talk) 05:00, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Hindutva terrorism]]

message: I've added a proposal at Talk:List of designated terrorist organizations#Suggestions to improve this list in order to improve this vital list (especially nowadays) and get it to FL status. Your opinion is welcomed. Thank you. CG 14:27, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of designated terrorist organizations]] 

message: Does a group that has been accused of terrorist acts, but has not been explicitly labeled as a terrorist group, qualify for inclusion here? I would say yes--the acts being more significant than the label. Examples of these borderline cases might include American Indian Movement and Haganah. Neither of these organizations had terrorism as an official policy or as a central strategy. Both organizations contained a number individual members who engaged in unquestionably terrorist actions.Verklempt 04:50, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally I'd disagree, but then make sure to create specific articles about the specific members of those groups who carried out those attacks, or for the attacks themselves, depending on the nature of the incident. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead)  05:03, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Respectfully, your response does not move us closer to defining the border between terrorist and non-terrorist groups. Most terrorist groups will not self-ID as terrorist. They see themselves as freedom fighters. Instead, they are IDed by outside observers as terrorist. Outside observers are generally not objective. So the question remains, how many terrorist actions must be carried out by a group's members for us to take seriously the terrorist label for this group. It is a very difficult question, and I don't think there is an easy answer.Verklempt 05:31, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If a member of the US Army, or the Royal Air Force, or somesuch, commit a "terrorist action targeting civilians", should we label the group as "terrorist"? No, of course not - I feel it's a ridiculous claim to make, we do not believe in guilt by association - you cannot judge an entire group of people off a single incident by a single person in the group. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead)  09:01, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the the points above on both sides. That's one of the reasons why I tried to create the . What I think would be the best way to go personally would be to include any organization which has been labelled as being "terrorist" by the locally relevant government, or whose actions have been labelled as terrorist by that same government. In this way, we do not ourselves try to define terrorism, but simply to address the subject in as neutral a way as possible. Also, I agree that if a low-level hanger-on of a group were to commit an act labelled as terrorist, than it would make sense to call that individual a terrorist, but maybe not the group s/he belonged to if the action did appear to be not substantively approved and assisted by the group. If the leaders of a group were involved in a terrorist incident, though, that could reasonably be seen as being cause to say that their group were "terrorist" in some form or other. Anyway, my two cents. John Carter 14:05, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: After a suggestion with no replies at Category talk:Terrorists#Avoid self-reference in terrorist definition, I have added  to 35 categories which contained an inappropriate self reference to Wikipedia. Note: I am not in this WikiProject and don't edit terrorist articles but just noticed the self references and fixed them. Maybe the template should be added to all terrorist subcategories for consistency but I don't expect to do more work regarding this template. PrimeHunter (talk) 03:06, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improving the definition of terrorism and terrorist groups 

message: Hello everyone. The article Rock Springs massacre, while not tagged by this project probably or maybe falls within its scope. It is a current Featured article candidate, if anyone here has the time comments would be appreciated after reviewing the featured article criteria and comparing those to the article. You can see its entry and participate in the discussion at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Rock Springs massacre. This message is an attempt to jumpstart lagging discussion, talk page posts on WikiProject pages which have tagged the article went unnoticed as the three projects are less than active at this juncture. Thanks ahead of time. IvoShandor 09:51, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Even as a native English speaker, I had trouble with "roundly panned", I'd suggest a minor reword on that section.  I saw a couple places I wanted to throw  tags as well, that I'll put up in the morning - not because I doubt the article's authors - as it seems to be a very NPOV article, but just for the sake of posterity, there were a few comments that should've had a citation. Great work, hope to see if featured! Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead)  10:11, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the comments, I reworded the sentence you pointed out. Please feel free to voice your support on the candidates page. Feel free to add the fact tags as I am certain the reference is already nearby and will not be difficult for me to add. : ) IvoShandor 10:26, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rock Springs massacre

message: RFC for a POV dispute.  Help us out! Isaac Pankonin 05:59, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Talk:Iraq Resolution]] 

message: Does anyone know if there is an article about the current arrests in germany (and denmark), if so what is it called? If not do editors think it should be started? (Hypnosadist) 09:56, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Found it myself so here it is German Terror Plot 9/07. (Hypnosadist) 09:15, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Tried to help the German article grow out a bit, it still needs a great deal of work though - seems to be an interesting case though. Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead)  18:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed all of the references into cite news form. Also, can somebody try and bring all of the external links into the main section of the article, so that it can have a bit more depth from the external links references. I would do it, but am not that familiar with the subject. Davnel03 16:22, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Current arrests in Germany

message: You know, there are two possible ways for this project to be viewed:
#You are here to inform the readers about terrorism
#You are here to insert the word "terrorism" into every article you touch
Your goal should be the former, not the latter because the latter approach asserts no new facts. Sadly, too often the effect is simply latter, and that to insert the word "terrorism" as many times as possible. You should strive for details and a variety in your vocabulary because the T-word becomes very quickly both boring and uninformative.--Onomato 07:37, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goals 

message: From what I can make out, 'terrorism' is a word used to describe irregular warfare that, from the point of view of the speaker, is not legitimate.  As legitimacy is defined in terms that are specific to a particular morality or legal system, the term is always indicative of a point of view. The result is that we have a project that may as well be called 'WikiProject Bad Violence'.
That said- paramilitaries, special forces, popular rebellions and so on, are all worthy of study. So let's rename this project something like 'WikiProject Irregular Warfare' and skip the bit where we decide who are the good guys and who are the bad guys in every conflict and violent action.
I came across this WikiProject when I was looking at the page 8888 Uprising. Wow, so a popular uprising against an oppressive military junta is considered terrorism, yet French Resistance is not. Well fancy that. Who's operating the morality meter today? There are neutral ways to describe these kind of groups and actions that are more specific than 'terrorism' and that do not reveal the writer's approval or disapproval.
Anyone have any suggestions for what alternative names we could use rather than terrorism? Mascus 09:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I sugest Marcus go read up on the lenghty discussion that was held in the talk page of the 9/11 attacks article. We went over the 'terrorist' word in length, and consensus was reached that the word was just fine to be used. --Tarage 03:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree that the name of this project will make the project inherently problematic.  I would suggest renaming the project something to represent both the supporters and detractors of certain organizations such as WikiProject Terrorism and Irregular Warfare or WikiProject Terrorism and Freedom Fighters.  Otherwise, the mere categorization of a page within this project will be subject to debate. Remember 00:17, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion: rename this project 

message: This article has a number of issues. It's basically just a list of attacks, many of which are unreferenced, and I assume the list is not and will never be complete. For example, it lists many Turkish military casualties but very few PKK casualties, and I would assume there should be more. I think it should either be something much shorter like "so far, X number of Turkish military and Y number of PKK fighters have been killed since..." or maybe take that section out altogether, since it would be hard to find those numbers accurately. The article could even be deleted, as it doesn't serve much purpose now. If some people could take a look I'd appreciate it. --AW 17:31, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, but this is incredibly hard to tell. It was a 30+ year conflict, with over 30,000 dead civilians I believe (civilian casualties that are approximated) that are caused by the PKK. The military does not reveal that much information, like number of casualties etc. A lot of times, they physically cannot, because it is a result of bombings or artillery attacks. This is like trying to tell casualties caused and received by U.S. military in Iraq. The PKK terrorists use the same tactics as Hezbollah, Hamas, and Al-Qaeda except that they usually do not suicide, but that has happened as well. Sometimes they like to go down in a blaze of fire, such as the many police station raids they conducted and usually those are the events that are reported by the Media. However, it would take a lot of work to get many accurate readings. So I think it's best to keep reports of PKK terrorism activities, and just because it isn't sourced doesn't mean it didn't happen, but someone should verify. — talk § _Arsenic99_ 06:03, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Casualties of the Turkey-PKK conflict]] 

message: *We have a Request for Comment at Talk:1984_Rajneeshee_bioterror_attack#Request_for_Comment, and your input would be appreciated.  Curt Wilhelm VonSavage (talk) 22:51, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RFC on 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack 

message: There is a discussion in Talk:Islamic terrorism#Article Title. Please participate in it and help us to achieve consensus. --Seyyed(t-c) 16:35, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Islamic terrorism

message: Are Muhammad_Bashmilah and Mohamed Farag Ahmad Bashmilah the same person? Also, Muhammad_Bashmilah needs a new title since it refers to three people not just one (there were previously three copies of the article, one at each name.) —Random832 21:39, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: merged Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead)  21:43, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Muhammad_Bashmilah]] 

message: 1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack is on Peer Review.  Your comments would be appreciated, at Wikipedia:Peer review/1984 Rajneeshee bioterror attack.  Cirt (talk) 02:53, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peer review notice 

message: As part of the WikiProject Good Articles, we're doing sweeps to go over all of the current GAs and see if they still meet the GA criteria. I have left this message at this project's talk page so that any interested members can assist in helping the article keep its GA status. I'm specifically going over all of the "World History-Americas" articles. I have reviewed Shining Path and believe the article currently meets the majority of the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed, and I'll leave the article on hold for seven days for them to be fixed. Please consider helping address the several points that I listed on the talk page of the article, which shouldn't take too long to fix. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 19:46, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Shining Path GA Sweeps Review: On Hold

message: time to revive the 2 year old newsletter? Some active admins for the project canget a bot to do it.(Lihaas (talk) 03:34, 2 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newsletter 

message: can we resserect the newsletter now dead for over 2 years. this seems to beone of the more active projcts so that would help cleaning up such article.(Lihaas (talk) 13:17, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newsletter 

message: A quick tip off: There's an RFC that's relevant to this project at talk:al-Shabaab#Somaliland RFC. --Copper button 19:24, 17 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  RFC at [[al-Shabaab]] 

message: I noticed that the Terror article has recently been created. In connection to that, I would like to know the opinion of the project's community about the need in such an article and its potential scope. Thank you in advance.--Paul Siebert (talk) 00:50, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Terror]] 

message: All opinions welcome. walk victor falk talk 10:05, 9 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia:Files_for_deletion/2011_April_8#File:Logo_of_Lashkar-e-Taiba.png]] 

message: nominated Abu Musab al-Zarqawi for a featured article review here. Please join the discussion on whether this article meets featured article criteria. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. If substantial concerns are not addressed during the review period, the article will be moved to the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Delist" the article's featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Dana boomer (talk) 15:10, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAR 

message: This is a current event, and i am surprised that no one has of now began working on the article. Joyson Noel Holla at me! 15:51, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Pakistan Naval Station Mehran attack]] 

message: :Image:Ayman Al-Zawahiri.jpg has been flagged for deletion, as it has the wrong permissions templates. 65.94.47.63 (talk) 06:20, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  File:Ayman Al-Zawahiri.jpg 

message: I noticed the article on the News International phone hacking scandal is part of WP Terrorism.  I think it's outside the scope of the project, and would like to remove the tag.  Any thoughts? (Also, if there's a more formal way for me to do this than on this talk page, please let me know.  I'm new to being a part of a wiki project).  Thanks!Gee totes (talk) 02:33, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed with your action. The phone hacking is a government scandal, it is most definitely not terrorism. Whoever originally added the template was severely mistaken. SilverserenC 02:42, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove News International phone hacking scandal from WP Terrorism