Talk:Rajput/Archive 21

message: What is the percentage of inter-caste and inter-religious marriages in the Rajput community? If it is less than 20%, aren't they anti-social?
Maaparty 17:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Intercaste Marriages

message: Are rajputs a race or a caste?
Since jatts claim to be a race and also claim to be born of "rajputs?" or rajputs were blueblooded kshatriyas who came under the umbrella term rajput?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Alokbagga (talk • contribs) 
::Can you show me---jatts claim to be a race and also claim to be born of "rajputs?",rather reverse has been found to be true as per comments in Archieve 21.Plz don't distort the facts.Holy -- + -- Warrior 10:07, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  race/caste? 

message: Could someone edit this article to include maid/soni rajputs of punjab!.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Alokbagga  (talk • contribs) 
If you are sure you should edit yourself.Holy    +   Warrior 13:10, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  soni/maid rajputs! 

message: * Hi included a seperate page on Mair Rajputs, I have provided all references and external links, when you get time read the references and help expand the "Mair Rajput" page. Thankyou 
* I have interconnected the Mair Rajput page to many related categories and pages on Wikipedia
* I have a request, please refer to External links and write the Mair Rajput page in as much detail as possible in your own words, so that is is copywrite free, include all the families and gotras mentioned too for all of us to see, Thankyou
As per the External Link: http://mairrajputs.tripod.com/notable.html
* Bagga: "The Bagga claim descent from Rao Chhabila of Delhi whose complexion was bagga, which means white in Punjabi whence this name" (Rose 440). There was also a Bagga chief in northern Punjab. His name was Budh Singh Bagga and he is described by Saggar. "He was the son of Sardar Amar Singh Bagga and was of the Kanhaya Misl. He inherited the family estates in 1795. He held Majitha, Sukalgarh, Bhagowal and other territories in Amritsar and Gurdaspur districts" (Saggar 61). He fought against Maharaja Ranjit Singh in 1809 after failing to meet the latter's demands. Ranjit Singh won and confiscated all of Bagga's estates including the three districts of Behrampur, Dharamkot, and Sukalgarh. He left to Budh Singh Bagga an estate at Dharamkot which Bagga held until his death in 1846.
Interesting, I am also a Mair rajput, please help expand the "Mair Rajputs" page.
Thanks
Atulsnischal 07:01, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Help '''Expand''' the new Article on "[[Mair Rajputs]]" from links and references provided

message: Editors plz refrain from rv war I would rather request the user who posted  on my talk page to edit in stepwise manner without changing whole article in one go citing reasons Thanks.Holy | Warrior 11:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  revert war 

message: Editors plz include only prominent people.(Idealy there should not be more than 10 names,with single line summary).Do these people merit inclusion?
*Anoop Chauhan - Senior Marine Engineer 
*Pankaj Kumar Chauhan - engineer and Ph D, A product from IIT Kharagpur
*Mrityunjay Chauhan - environmental engineer 
*Dr. LS Chauhan - Leader in tuberculosis research. 
*Dr. Vijay Singh Chauhan - cardiologist 
*Anand kumar singh "chauhan"-B.tech._national institute of foundry & forge technology [varanasi] 
 HW  11:33, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section Famous Rajput 

message: This article is on AfD, comments appreciated.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  17:44, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Mall sainthwar]] (rajputs)

message: Punjabi Hindus hold Sikhism in high regard, many Punjabi Hindus not only in India but worldwide today visit their local Gurudwaras regularly and adhere to the preaching’s of the Guru Granth Sahib. Sikhism is traditionally seen as a religion of warriors who were protectors of Hindus against marauding Islamic invaders who seeked to convert Hindus to Islam by lethal force. There has been a long standing practice in Punjab which still continuous where Hindu families give their first born son to the Guru to be baptized as a Sikh and join the Guru’s army of protectors. Many Punjabi Rajput families too have been giving their sons to be enrolled in the Guru’s Army and baptized as Sikhs. Thus there are many Hindu, Punjabi Hindu Rajput and Punjabi Hindu Mair Rajput families whose kin are proud followers of Sikhism today. Thus there are many Sikhs who call themselves "Sikh Rajputs" today and still use Rajput family names.
Atulsnischal 23:14, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: '''[[Sikh Rajputs]]:''' [[Hinduism]], [[Sikhism]] and Punjabi Hindu Rajputs 

message: what happened to the ToC of this page? What's with all the "the"s and unmotivated section hierarchies? It looks like a cow has eaten it. Can you try make it look like a Wikipedia article again? I am afraid we'll have to revert to 6 January for now. dab (𒁳) 10:19, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: since you butchered the "current version" of January 6, I might say the same.dab (𒁳) 11:53, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Stop being disruptive. You are saving a version which is incoherent. If you have any constructive suggestion please discuss them here. I have not seen you contribute a single line so far. 202.142.65.129 07:11, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: you may want to read the archives. it was hard work to get the article into its present shape. I do not mind your additions at all, just, for pity's sake, make an effort to understand WP:MoS first, in particular Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings). Present your reasons for changing the ToC, and be aware that we don't want sections titled "The Definition" (hint, begin with dropping the article). We also don't want Devanagari transliterations given in the section headers. Titles like "The Contributional Configuration" are just confused. I think there is a language problem here. People will certainly be prepared to help you clean up awkward wording, but not if you're pushy about it. Now I kindly suggest you present a clear case of what you want here on talk. dab (𒁳) 08:49, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

text: clear? you have twenty-one h2 sections, among them jewels like "The Finest Stories of the Rajput Valour".  Your "organization" section appears to have some value, why don't you try insert it into the existing article without messing it up. You really need to get off your "The Configuration" thing, it's silly.  My good fellow, we have :Category:Rajputs, there is no way we'll do a h2 section on individual ruler, let alone eleven h2 sections on individual rulers, as you apparently insist.  dab (𒁳) 14:27, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

text: It will be far more uphill task to fix the version you last saved. I have started tightening rajawat's version and let us all work on that. I will fix the multiple h2 sections. Any other objections? Baikal 16:46, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Back to khokla humbug. I predict that the "tightening" will take that version back to the pristine bull created by SS. The "configuration" thing and "finest stories" are not the troll's creation, so of course he will tighten that out. Even otherwise, I have reason to be certain (not just beyond reasonable doubt) that Baikal is SS, and  went back 310 revisions when he made this edit. Not the slightest AGF is warranted at any time on the Rajput page. So Bachmann, grip the bullshit machine by the horns, stop feeding the trolls and start banning them instead. SS, you need to play a lot, lot more with images on the page of that other khokla tinpot, Idi Amin (and then there is Bikini, LOL!!) before you can gather any credibility to appear on the Rajput page. And even then I shall know you. So get a life outside WP, I say, and begone. ImpuMozhi 18:16, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I wouldn't be surprised, SS hasn't given us the honour for a while; you are right, I shouldnt FTT. time to semi-protect my talkpage again I guess :) dab (𒁳) 18:34, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

text: There are bunch of incorrect information in your version of the page. Just to pick one: Emergence of rajputs in 7th century A.D.  What makes you make such claims? Ofcourse you can find books mostly by Colonial English who propounded such theories. These are ofcourse discarded by quite a few modern historians who have discovered genealogies of rajput kings going back to ancient Indian kings. So I repeat you are welcome to show your editorial skills and knowledge in poingting out mistakes in this version. Baikal 06:57, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: you are most welcome to work on the article. You are, for example, welcome to add  to unsourced statements that appear dubious to you. The present version isn't "mine", and there is a lot of material in it that I haven't verified. It's just that as long as you insist on replacing the entire article with a wholly different version that we'll be getting nowhere. dab (𒁳) 10:07, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: in fact, strike the 'welcome', I agree with ImpuMozhi that this is another SS sleeper account. The signature of dumb stubborness combined with a certain stealthy cleverness (slow but steady learning curve how socks are recognized) is inimitable. dab (𒁳) 10:15, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: oh dear

message: Please work with info in this following important version and retain all of it in the final version:
Revision as of 06:59, 30 January 2007 by Baikal. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rajput&oldid=104283145
And please only contribute to facts if you are knowledgable and have done some serious research from credible sources, if some of us are not so good in English / Grammer, it being not our first language, please help in correcting the English not in adding or substacting facts. 
Please let this article be a truthful representation of Rajputs not an ongoing controversy and a Revert War.
Sincerely
Atulsnischal 09:41, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: you are reverting to the troll's version, Atulsnischal. If it has anything you'd like in the current version, I am sure we can help you insert it in impeccable English prose. Revert-warring doesn't make you look "knowledgeable", pinpointing inaccuracies does. Some flaws of your favoured version are pointed out above; to begin with, it re-states much material from other articles. There is a list of Rajputs article you may want to work on, we do not want a copy of this list here. There is a History of Rajputs article, we do not want to re-state a detailed list of kings here. See also Wikipedia:Main article fixation. dab (𒁳) 10:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: WHY IS THERE A REVERT WAR GOING ON, ON THE '''"RAJPUT"''' PAGE

message: We have two statements here which do not agree:
:"Rajput belong to two great patrilineages"
then (later)
:"three patrilineages (vanshas)"
Only two are identified.  Which is correct?Fconaway 05:41, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Patrilineages 

message: Editors of this Rajput article are requested to work on the article Singh, as some people are making constant effort to hijack the article and keep it only for Sikhs saying that provide reference if Singh is a Rajput common name, they keep erasing reference that Sing is a Rajput name at all. They keep proving that Singh is a Sikh name only. I suspect these are foreign editors who have no idea what they are talking about obviously.
See this version of the article that erases all reference that Singh is a common name used by Rajputs: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Singh&oldid=153438525
Kindly provide a lot of references and facts that Singh is a Rajput name and also provide how many Rajputs may be using it as a middle or as the last name because I know Rajputs who migrated outside Rajasthan to other states many hundred years ago have lost touch and now use it now as their last name.
Kindly help to work on Singh article when you all get some time, Thanks 
Atulsnischal 06:00, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Efforts to hijack [[Singh]] article

message: Why dont you create a ethnic group info box, see the Punjabi, Persian, Gujaratis, Sikhs etc. for the Rajputs.  It looks so much neater.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.103.105.94 (talk) 21:04, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ethnic group info box

message: Rajput Muslims -
I found in many history books that Many Rajput by their will changed to Muslims before the Muslim invadors came to India. This was the period of the King Harsh wardhana. We should not hate these Rajputs. In the same line I must say that If they are turning back to Hindu religion we must respectfully take back them in our fold - at last that is our blood.
There were many reasons that the Rajput turn to Muslim. So one should not make a hatred statement about these Rajputs. Yes I call them Rajput because they are our blood.
The another thought process I found that there is very sharp difference saying we are this Rajput and that Rajput. I would like to ask any Rajput who claims very cleanly that 'he is Rajput' - the status you got as a Rajput is from common man. I mean to say that when some families from Farmers line took part in wars and they turned to be the kings - Rajas.
When this fact is clear like a sun light why we ourself distinct from the fact that The Rajput is nothing but a raised status of living and a respectable designation. When we ourself are raised why we hate others? They will automatically respect us. By forcing others to respect is no way good, it reverses in negative manner.
In the period of ASHOKA - many Rajputs accepted the dharma of BUDDHA. The Royal Dharma.
But since we worshiped - Eklingji and Kali ma for thousand of years, it was difficult for our families to turn to Buddhisam. Also learned BRAHMINs pushed to continue with our traditions.. Finally these brahmins accepted Buddha as 10th avatar of Vishnu. As there were many gods so they added this one Avatar.
The BRAHMINS always abandoned the poor Rajput families from performing poojas. , When these bad traditions continued Rajputs from good origins also driffted to other Dharmas.
Some kings families defeated or mislead by brahmins take revenge by turning to other dharmas.
As today we Rajputs strongly hate the BRAHMIN's superior status, the same situation might have occured a long back.
Now its very important for us to maintain our Rajput status. We must learn to change our attitude towards others, time is changing and now sword is not the power the Power is in our presentation and dedication to the good Path that we are following for our won prosperity.
Now the power is in knowledge and Money., we must strive hard for reaching to our status.
Bhikari ko koi Raja kyon kahe?
-- Rajput  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.80.57.2 (talk) 15:07, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rajput Muslims 

message: I actually wanted to learn about what "Rajput" means when i came to this page. In stead I find disorganised information mixed with a LOT of very clear snobbery.
So you enjoy the fact that your ancestors opressed the poor and lorded it up without ever doing a proper days work - fine by me, but I dont want to read about it in an encyclopedia. Can someone with a decent education and some knowledge of the subject write me a clear, concise and scholarly article that tells me facts with maybe the odd interesting aside?
Seriously, this reads like Nietzsche and Robert E. Howard got together and decided to write a script for a Bollywood movie.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.212.29.83 (talk) 14:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article is in BAD shape 

message: Some Punjabi Supremacist is embedding the external link "ethnic and social groups of Punjab" everywhere.  These Punjabi supremacists have a hidden agenda as they want to imply all Rajputs are from Punjab.  The fact is Rajputs are present all over India, and their percentage is highest in Rajputana (Rajasthan). See this link. 
The reason these Punjabis embed Punjabi links on these pages is because they want all power in India to flow from Punjab. They want to Psychologically subjugate the rest of India.  
We must find out who these Punjabi supremacists are? And ban them.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by SanjayMohan (talk • contribs) 00:42, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have created a template specifically for Rajput groups and removed the Punjabi one.  I would appreciate a knowledgeable person checking the template for completeness and accuracy.--Diannaa (talk) 18:30, 17 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  If someone can provide the complete list of 36 clans of Rajput, it would be helpful. Ikon No-Blast 18:45, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: SO true! For starters I am working my way through the groups listed on my new template, "Rajput Groups of India", categorising them into the four main Rajput groups (vanshis), and developing a new template in my sandbox.  There are more than 36 groups in the starter template already.  The initial source was the  "Ethnic and social groups of the Punjab" template.  There are also 150 groups listed in :Category:Rajput clans and 142 groups in :Category:Rajputs.  There is definitely some overlap in those two categories and with the starter template. Some are sub-categories of one another. I will do as much as I can using the info available here on our wiki and other sources online.  There is little at my local library on this topic.  --Diannaa (talk) 18:34, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Castes and Tribes of Punjab: A hidden agenda of Punjabis

message: This article is reads more like community brotherhood (biradari) eulogy  and less like a scholarly work written with objectivity.
Credible citations should be enforced for every single clan mentioned in the list. The work of colonial historians should not be regarded as the sole authority because most of them are not primary sources or secondary sources of history.
Just because any given clan is presently considered or not considered 'Rajput' should not be reason for the inclusion and exclusion from the list of Rajput clans. Instead the connection of the clans to ancient chandravanshi , suryavanshi , etc lineages must be credibly proven with the help of citations from the primary sources and other reliable sources.
--Internet Scholar (talk) 15:56, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article reads like a Community Brotherhood pamphlet. Citations and Critiques must be enforced to make it scholarly and objective 

message: to facilitate reporting new sock accounts, place  on the account's userpage and place a note on WP:AIV, and an admin will deal with it promptly. dab (ᛏ) 09:43, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trolling reports

message: I have removed the paragraph on Guru Gobind Singh. It was out of context and entirely POV.:  Ajjay (talk) 10:54, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference to Guru Gobind Singh 

message: ===See also=== Dhangar. The “Ain-i-Akbari” describes Dhangars as being a proud, refractory and domineering race of Rajputs, living in the Basim Sircar and, with numerous armed forces, occupying the forts and controlling the surrounding districts. The The Castes and Tribes of H.E.H. the Nizam's Dominions By Syed Siraj ul HassanThe Tribes and Castes of Bombay By Reginald Edward Enthoven They came (to present day Maharashtra) prior to the Nizam becoming subhedar of Deccan (present day Maharashtra)on behalf of the King of Delhi. They have Rajput Gotras in their clan system. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spidermen (talk • contribs) 
*  to the See also Section.Unsigned1 (talk) 13:45, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dhangar 

message: In the paragraph that describes Bargujar rajputs, King Rama is mentioned in the second last line. Please create a hypertext link under the word "Rama" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rama) so that the readers who are not very familiar with hindu culture would know that King Rama mentioned here is same as God Rama.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Manuraghav (talk • contribs) 13:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone has added the requested link. --Diannaa (talk) 22:32, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''A request''' 

message: Hi everyone.  I'm currently trying to remove links to the disambiguation page Punjab.  There's at least one internal link to Punjab that needs to be piped to Punjab region.  Can someone fix it please?  Thanks 163.1.181.208 (talk) 20:11, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: - I have checked this out and could find no links as described, as of today. --Diannaa (talk) 22:45, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Another request

message: Please can A. K. Warder be wikilinked in the references section? Thank you. DuncanHill (talk) 19:19, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: --Diannaa (talk) 22:43, 20 January 2010 (UTC)

text: How can these two particular families be claiming Pandava lineage when they are also claiming Suryavanshi/Solar lineage? It is a well known fact that the Pandavas were representative of the Chandravansh/Lunar lineage, therefore this is impossible?--~Raja~ (talk) 11:37, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request wikilinking 

message: This article has just been created. I have no knowledge in this area so suggest other editors take a look. If genuine/notable needs cleanup, wikification and possibly merging into this article. If not genuine/notable can someone nominate for AFD. Exxolon (talk) 21:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Virwar]] 

message: content text at many places Glorifies Rajput clans their bravery and heroism without proper citation,
proper source should be mentioned or text should say that "it is believed that...".
Examples :
". They proved their chivalry by fighting with honor and the mercy that they showed to the vanquished. When fighting against the hordes of Arabs, Moghuls, Afghans, and Turks, many preferred to die rather than to forsake their ancestors' faith (Hindu dharma) for Islam."
No citation/example of mercy given here, neither anything to support "many preferred to die rather than to forsake their ancestors".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deepkamal (talk • contribs) 06:14, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Text reflects Glories of Rajput clans without proper citations? 

message: Hi,
 Its a topic which is still uncleared from the Description of Rajputs given in this page, 
In the index no Rana Surname is used.. but Rana's are Rajputs and It should be included and explained in the description of Rajputs  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonikrana (talk • contribs) 08:18, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rajputs using Surname Rana and Rathore 

message: Someone put a tag on "Sikh Rajputs" article that it will be deleted in five days etc., this article can not be deleted as Sikh Rajputs exist and most claims made in the article are true as well known to local Indians in Punjab only the need is that some interested and knowledgeable editors with access to proper history books etc. can eventually come forward and develop the article properly in time, quoting credible sources. Foreign born and raised editors with no direct local Indian knowledge are requested not to vandalize it as per their own fastly held thoughts and beliefs.
Thanks
Atulsnischal (talk) 06:51, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: HELP!!! NEEDED for Article on [[Sikh Rajputs]]

message: The term Rajput came in existence in seventh century. The earlier history of period prior to this needs to be expanded with proper references. 
Thakur Deshraj is one of the prominent Historians from Rajasthan. He has mentioned about Rajputs in his book on Jat history page 113-114, w.r.t Imperial Gazetteer of India  Vol 2 (page 307-308),
:"Then between the 7th and 8th centuries the old racial divisions passed away and a new division came in founded upon status and function....
:The rise of Rajputs determined the whole political history of time. They made their first appearance in 8-9th centuries; most of the greatest clans took possession of their seats between 800 and 850 AD. ... Their origin is a subject of much dispute." (Imperial Gazetteer of India Vol 2 p.308))
When Rajput word was not created and was not in use prior to 9th century how they are related with Rama or Pandawas. We need proper references.burdak (talk) 15:18, 15 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of Rajput 

message: I really cannot deal with the main article because this is not a university setting and it seems everyone has their opinion. However, what I do find ridiculous are the names of non-existent clans and non-existent gotras. Also, the fact that people are listing names of Brahmins and Buniyas as Rajputs which is a bit too much.
I really feel sad for this article because it is completely a mess and holds no credibility.
Gorkhali (talk) 08:39, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Clan names and Gotras

message: I would suggest that we discuss how Rajputs are spread over the Indian subcontinent. It must be known that Rajputs ruled once rawalpindi to kannauj and deep down malwa once. The ruler of kashmir is a bhagel rajput, Himachal hills were ruled by chandravanshi tomar kings, garhwal was ruled by a punwars and kumaon hills by chand Rathores. 
We need a sub head how Rajputs migrated and how they are spread. Rathore decended from Jai Chand Rathore ruler of kannuaj and were forced to migrate to Thar desert after loosing to muslims a small section survived and made way to kumaon hills, its well documented history.
Over the centuries rajputs found way in differenbt kingdoms in search of livelihood and also to escape mulsim excesses. Ranas spread over hills after Chittor was sacked by Akbar and they left Rajasthan to find new homes.
Lets not restrict a article over just few kings and famous names and mostly Rajputana. It should discuss too eastern UP rajputs and hill rajputs. Heavy recruitment of rajputs by British was done from hill regiments (Kumaon,Garhwal and Dogra) and rajputana and rajput of eastern India. Rajput glory and ancestory should be discussed in a non partisan manner.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ratan S (talk • contribs) 04:40, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Migration and movement of Rajputs,  

message: This article contains much anti-Muslim propaganda.  The Mughal men and women extensively married into Rajput families and adopted the Rajput heritage. Many Rajputs chose, from their own free will, to be Muslims because of issues with Hinduism or Sikhism.
I suggest that this page should contain a section for Muslim Rajputs.
Also their are some inaccuracies:
Under Heading Culture, Ethos- Jauhar:
"The practice is often described in terms of the women alone, but should correctly be understood as including the death of the men on the battlefield. As generally described, Jauhar involved:
# A defending Rajput army being besieged inside a fortification by an invading Muslim army;"
Jauhar was a practice committed by Rajput families even during the time of Rajput civil wars before the arrival of the Muslims. This practice was not specifically linked to Muslim armies. Rajputs, when they fought amongst themselves, also were brutal against enemy tribes.
This should read:
" A defending Rajput army being besieged inside a fortification by an invading army"
:--Diannaa (talk) 22:53, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  There is no such term as "Muslim Rajput". Its a gross ignorance of facts and truth written in History. Its a lie which cannot be made a truth by any means

message: "Jay Mataji Ki"
("Hail the Mother Goddess") and welcome to all Rajputs on Board of Wikipedia.
Many chapters of Rajput history are fabricated to glorify those invaders for covering up their cowardice deceptive act against brave deeds and generous quality of Rajput but no one can hide sun from shining and so is for Rajput dignity and pride.   
*Same like real Rajput History this article of Wikipedia too have seen many war and vandalism activities with ample of edits and counter edits right after its creation with piles of archived pages you can find over here. Please put your views here sensibly with counter support and reference. When you feel, your contributions to article is counter edited with contrast to your input or some thing like ‘U’ turn then do not get up set but cool down and try to defend your point. Let other too have their “Click Business” here and again keep it in mind that Wikpedia it self is creation and compilation of treasure like you and many. 
*Just for the information of some ‘new user’ of this ‘volatile’ Wkipedia article, that many users have lost their ‘edit sword’  (permanently blocked) here, may be bitter taste for them, so all user over here, try to keep things proper way otherwise will get same fate like those ‘lost warrior’ and you may get blocked too for ‘interfering’ too much to those “privileged administrators” over here. 
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--McBapu(talk)
08:30, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  <font size="4" color="#FF9900">Rajput</font> Discussion page 

message: It seems that this page is dead. Are there any editors out there that have the wikipedia privileges to edit this page? Why does it seem that no effort is being made to edit this page with in the last six months?
Please can somebody actually act on this as there are so many fair and important requests that need fulfilling.
PLEASE MAINTAIN THIS PAGE!
--BhainsRajput (talk) 11:11, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  HELLO? 

message: Under sub section Surnames, please add link to Bais Rajput homepage by rewriting Bais with  at the front and  at the back.
Also noticed 'rajput saini' oddly written in the surnames subsection too. Please look into this as it seems like tampering.
--90.214.246.12 (talk) 12:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit required 

message: please do NOT add further detail to this page. The efforts needed are: sorting through the material, tightening it, and throwing out the bad stuff. This is a WP:SS article. If you want to add further detail, go to the sub-articles. To discuss Rajput clans, edit Rajput clans. To discuss Rajput history, discuss Rajput history. Etc. Thank you. --dab (𒁳) 14:07, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: cleanup

message: rana=rane,deora=deore,devra=devre are this surname fall under rajput as the nature of prakrit language that is comman sanskrit language use in maharastra (marathi) wher letter "a" becomes "e" .sonu 08:14, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  want to clarify some doubt in rajput surname 

message: RANE:-The Surname used as rane in Maharastra and they add singh as ther middle name, for example The Chief Minister of Goa Pratap Singh Rane.
RAORANE IN Maharastra are from this clan.They are from family of Rana Pratap from Udaipur.Their kuldevat is Eklingaji from Rajasthan.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.97.187.205 (talk) 12:31, 16 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  are RANE, DEORE, and DEVRE rajput ,comman surname found in maharastra 

message: DORE GUJARS, who number forty-one families. [The forty-one families, kuls, are: Pavars of Dhargadh, Chohans of Nagelgadh, Simal of Dodgadh, Ghelot of Ahirgadh, Kaba of Dhondgadh, Khavi of Modgadh, Solanki of Rohadgadh, Chauthan of Kampegadh, Mori of Chitodgadh, Nikumbh of Modgadh, Toka of Asirgadh, Gohel of Khedgadh, Chavda of patangadh, Jhala of Patargadh, Dodiye of Jaitpur, Vaghela of Budhelagadh, Huna of Akhilgadh, Survate of Bubbati, Gujaric of Palegadh, Padhikar of Sodhagadh, Nimbol of Jhatangadh, Devare of Taragadh. Bhagesa of Ramgadh, Kagva of Kalpigadh, Wanhol of Dhauhaligadh, Dode of Krishnagadh, Tovar of Delhi, Khapre of Gajyaiwadh, Khichi of Analvadgadh, Jadav of Junagadh, Makvane of Makdaigadh, Barod of Bahmangadh, Dabhi of Kapadvagadh, Harihar of Hormajgadh, Gaud of Ajmir, Javkhedye of Shvetbandha, Sakhele of Ranjea, Bhatele of Jotpur, Suryavanshi of Sarvargadh, Borsi or Borad of Borigadh, and Kalumba of Rumigadh. Mr. J. Pollen, C. S,] are said originally to have been Dor Rajputs. [Dor Rajputs have disappeared from Rajputana where they were once famous and included in the thirty-six royal races. (Tod's Rajasthan, I. 105). 
REFERENCE FROM :-
www.maharashtra.gov.in/pdf/gazeetter_reprint/Khandesh/population_race.
The Rane Rajputs have such surnames as Jadhav and Shisode, and any two of their tribes can intermarry. They have sixteen houses in Yaval, and they do not eat with Kunbis. The Rane Rajputs of Dandaiche and Sindkheda hunt and eat flesh, fowl and fish, and drink wine. Their women never appear in public and would die rather than work on roads or in fields. They sew bodices, but neither spin nor weave. Besides these four classes, Suryavanshi Rajputs are found in Nimar and on the borders of Savda and Bhusaval. They neither eat with other Rajputs nor allow widow marriage. The higher families are known by the title of Thakur.
REFERENCE FROM :-
www.maharashtra.gov.in/pdf/gazeetter_reprint/Khandesh/population_race.
Some common surname of Maharastra: - 
Rane,Deore,Devre,Rathore,Shisode,Jadhav.
1.RANE: - Is most common surname found in Maharastra, and  it resemble with that of Rana’s  surname found in Rajputana  as for the behavior  the people of Rajput who fight bravely in battle field have such a title of Rana’s. It seem that the Rajput who fight bravely in Maharastra have such title of Rane’s. 
“It seems that due to the nature of prakrit language used in Maharastra that is marathi the Rana is pronounced as Rane”.
The Rane Rajputs have such surnames as Jadhav and Shisode, and any two of their tribes can intermarry.
REFERENCE FROM :-
www.maharashtra.gov.in/pdf/gazeetter_reprint/Khandesh/population_race.
2.DEORE: - Is most common surname found in Maharastra, and  it resemble with that of Deora  surname found in Rajputana. “It seems that due to the nature of prakrit language used in Maharastra that is marathi the Deora is pronounced as Deore”.And many people in Deore community add singh as middle name.
Deore Or Deora are descendent of Chouhan or Chauhan rajput of Agnikul Rajput or Agnivanshi Rajput.
3. DEVRE: - Is most common surname found in Maharastra, and  it resemble with that of Devra surname found in Rajputana. “It seems that due to the nature of prakrit language used in Maharastra that is marathi the Devra is pronounced as Devre”.And many people in Devre community add singh as middle name. For example:- Rajendrasingh Bhimsingh Devre (Samajwadi Party).
Devre Or Devra are descendent of Chouhan or Chauhan Rajput of Agnikul Rajput or Agnivanshi Rajput.
Hada Kshatriya: 
Gothra - Vatsa. Devi - Ashapuri. Guru - Vashishtha. Ved - Samved. King Maniklal was from Hada vansha. One of the famous personality from this vansha is Ramdeva. Hada Kshatriya Vansha is also popularly known as Hadouti. States - Bundi, Kota. There is a history of Brave Hada Rani. Branches - Udawat, Devra, Devre, Jaitawat, Chandrawat. 
REFERENCE FROM :-
REFERENCE OF NAME IN EXAMPLE IS FROM:-
02nd April:
Election 2004 Nomination Scrutiny: 
All the nominations received for Parliamentary elections 2004 were scrutinise on 01st April. The authorities found two nominations incomplete/ disqualified from Jalgaon while three from Erandol. After final scrutiny, the party wise candidate listing is as under:
Jalgaon Parliamentary Constituency:
Dr. Ulhas Vasudev Patil (Congress I), Y. G. Mahajan (B.J.P.), Pandurang Eknath Patil (P.E. Tatya Patil - Samajwadi Party), Dnyaneshwar Divakar Patil (Independent), Ravindra Tulsiram Gavai (BSP), and Dagdu Kitab Tadvi (Independent).
Erandol Parliamentary Constituency:
M. K. Anna Patil (B.J.P.), Vasantrao Jivanrao More (NCP), Rajendrasingh Bhimsingh Devre (Samajwadi Party), Suresh Pandurang Patil (Hindustan Janta Party), and Gautam Sambhaji More (BSP).
Now final picture will be clear only after 5th April, which is last date of withdrawing nominations.
http://www.ejalgaon.com/news
REFERENCE OF DEVRE AS HADA RAJPUT FROM :-
RAJPUT VANSHAWALI
It is very interesting for the current generation to know that your family stream goes back to one Rajput Raja - Lord Emperor. A Rajput vansha tree begins with one of the 36 Rajvansha. Renouned research scholars of our community Late Dr. Indradev Singh Nikumbh and Thakur Ishwarsingh Madadh had published Kshatriya Bhaskar and Rajput Vanshawali after studying different materials on Rajput Vansha. They also included valuable informations by one english scholar Col. Tod. Here we are giving a brief summary of popular vanshas. You can try to search history of your forefathers and to relate your family with appropriate Rajput King.
Kshatriya Community Portal.htm
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4.RATHUR: - Is most common surname found in Maharastra, and  it resemble with that of Rathor  surname found in Rajputana. “It seems that due to the nature of prakrit language used in Maharastra that is marathi the Rathor is pronounced as Rathur”.And many people in Rathore community add singh as middle name.
REFERENCE FROM :- wikipedia.org/wiki/Rathore
5.SHISODE: - Is most common surname found in Maharastra, and  it resemble with that of Shisodya  surname found in Rajputana. “It seems that due to the nature of prakrit language used in Maharastra that is marathi the Shisodya is pronounced as Shisode”.And many people in shisode community add singh as middle name.Shisode are descendent of Surjavanshi Rajput from Ghelot Rajput. His clan was renamed Sisodia after the name of their village "Sisoda". The Sisodia (also known as Sesodia or Shishodia or Shishodya or Sisodya or Sisodhya). 
REFERENCE FROM :-
www.maharashtra.gov.in/pdf/gazeetter_reprint/Khandesh/population_race.
6.JADHAV: - Is most common surname found in Maharastra, and  it resemble with that of Jadav,Jadon  surname found in Rajputana.And many people in Jadhav community add singh as middle name.As pre record Jadhav are the descendent of yadav  or Chandervanshi rajput. For example:- Khashaba Dadasaheb Jadhav, India's first individual Olympic medalist. Namdev Jadav (Victoria Cross recipient)
 REFERENCE FROM :-  wikipedia.org/wiki/Yadav
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sonu 09:54, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  RAJPUT SATTELED IN MAHARASTRA 

message: Some rajput clan are divided and made a new clan for a common cause whom are know as  or whom called as mahrattas or Marathas.
Maratha clan system :-Kshatriya, warriors, commoner and peasants.
Its seem that Marāthās or Mahrattas is a Rajput clan.
The list of main clans and their sub-clans or lines tended to differ from time to time, and by book to book. A commonly-accepted 96 clan list includes 24 suryavanshi clans, 24 chandravanshi clans, 24 bramhavanshi clans and 24 Nagavanshi clans.
Past political conditions were harsh and chaotic. Name changes occurred for many reasons. People changed their name to shield themselves from military conflicts, or from religious, political, caste persecution and discrimination. Others did so to hide from a criminal past. Some people chose to go underground, or migrated to a different region and changed their name in the process. Evidence suggests[citation needed] that some people or an entire clan changed their name but did not change their caste when they migrated to new region or came an under government. It is difficult process to identify and prepare clans lines that are completely correct and some Maratha surnames and clans are missing from this list.
The list in this article was created by the scholar Vyasa rishi with the help of other rishis such as Vamdev, Shuk and others. They established that the Great Maratha clans are descendants of all 56 Royal Houses of India. According to Arya, the Hindu religion in India was divided into 56 sub nations. The Mahabharata War was destructive and left these nations in general disarray.[citation needed] This was the start of the Kaliyuga age. In order to keep the religion alive, the rishis linked the Kshytriyas, warriors, and Royal houses with a strong bond by creating the Maratha Clan System from the 56 royal houses of India. Before the 12 century there was no difference between southern Kshatriya (Marathas) and northern Kshatriya (Rajputs). The first Rajput clan list was prepared in 12th century and the difference was set. Intermarrying and other Kshatriya traditions were stopped.
VERY IMPORTANT TO NOTE:-IN MAHRATTAS OR MARATHAS CLAN SYSTEM MARATHA IS REFFERED AS A GROUR OF PEOPLE ASSOCIATED TOGETHER FOR A COMMON CAUSE . THE GROUP OF PEOPLE INCLUDE KSHATRIYA, WORRIORS, COMMONER,AND,PEASANTS OR KURMI OR KUNBI CASTE.
Kshatriya :- is one of the four varnas in Hinduism. Initially in ancient Vedic society, this position was achieved on the merits of a person's aptitude (guna), conduct (karma), and nature (swabhava). The earliest Vedic literature listed the Kshatriya (holders of kṣatra, or authority) as first in rank, then the Brahmins (priests and teachers of law), next the Vaisya (merchant-traders), and finally the Sudra (artisans and labourers). Movements of individuals and groups from one class to another, both upward and downward, were not uncommon; a rise in status even to the rank of Kshatriya was a recognized reward for outstanding service to the rulers of the day.[1] Over the years it became hereditary. In modern times, the Kshatriya varna includes a broad class of caste groups, differing considerably in status and function but united by their claims to rulership, the pursuit of war, or the possession of land.
warriors :- In tribal societies engaging in endemic warfare, warriors often form a caste or class of their own. In feudalism, the vassals essentially form a military or warrior class, even if in actual warfare, peasants may be called to fight as well. In some societies, warfare may be so central that the entire people (or, more often large parts of the male population) may be considered warriors, for example in the Iron Age Germanic tribes or the Medieval Rajputs.
                         According to the Random House Dictionary, the term warrior has two meanings. The first literal use refers to "a person engaged or experienced in warfare." The second figurative use refers to "a person who shows or has shown great vigor, courage, or aggressiveness, as in politics or athletics."
commoner :-any member of the Royal Family.
peasants :- Kurmi (Hindi: कुर्मी), In Hindu society there have traditioanlly been four varnas - 1. Bharmanya 2. Kshatriya 3. Vaisya 4. Kshdrya, - these were decided on the basis of the work done by individuals.People from Kurmi community belong to a caste of Kshatriya varna. Kurmis are believed to be the direct descendants of the earliest Aryan tribes, as well as the well known Suryavansha Kshatriya dynasty in the line of Lord Rama.
"Kurmi" is the chief ancient agricultural caste of India. The Singraur, Umrao, Awadhya, Gangwar, Kanbi, Kapu, Katiyar, Kulambi, Jaiswar, Kulwadi, Kunbi, Kutumbi, Patel, Sachan, Verma all are sub communities comes under community "Kurmi".
"Kurmi" in Sanskrit, which is frequently used in the Ramayana, literally translates as "I can" or "I am able", or "within my power to act". In other words, those who are not Kurmi are not able,incompetent or without power to act. Some very common examples of the usage of the word in Sanskrit from the Ramayana are as follows : 1)'yat na kurmi' sadresam priyam... (Valmiki Ramayana, Book 6, Sarga 1). 'I am not able' to do a pleasant act... 2)'na kurmi' tvam bhasmam (Valmiki Ramayana, Book 5, Sarga 22)
According to the Revd. Sherring, "The Kurmi has a strong, bony hand, natural to a man of his employment. He is frequently tall and powerful, manly outspoken and independent in manner and is altogether free from cringing obsequiousness". Colonel Dalton of British East India Company, while doing classification of Indian castes, regarded them as the descendants of some of the earliest Aryan Colonists and described them as a brown, tawny-colored people, of an average height, well proportioned and with a fair amount of good looks. They show well-shaped heads and high features, they are unquestionably Aryans in looks. Grey eyes and brownish hair are sometimes met with amongst them The women usually have small and well formed hands and feet [1] The Aryan link remains unproven. See Aryan Invasion Theory.
The link between Kurmis and agriculture has been justified on the grounds of linguistic affinities between the root "ar" (bravery, heroism, found in English and Greek hero, Russian geroj and Sanskrit arya) and other words for cultivators i.e. those who labour nobly (Russian oratel or ploughman, Airga in the Zend-Avesta), as well as in the legend of King "Prithu", who tamed the earth to make fertile again. It is for this reason that the Sanskrit word for "earth" is "Prithvi", in honour of the Aryan king "Prithu" who first cultivated the earth. In the words of Thomas Jefferson, "cultivators of the Earth are the most virtuous and independent citizens."
Kurmis have been held as straightforward, brave and stubborn in their nature, and during the late 15th century tended to be held as warriors by most natural farming clans. Especially in Maharashtra where they took up arms against the mughals and other foreigners under the Indian hero Shivaji. Likewise, they also took up arms against the British and a Kurmi general commanded the armies of the Begum of Oudh in her fight against the Bristish in 1857. Kurmis today are to be found in all professions including politics, films, medicine, law, administrative services, and business as well as the traditional occupation of agriculture. [edit] Kshatriyas and agriculture
As per ancient Hindu texts, agriculture is permissible to Kshatriyas under special circumstances[78] in the absence of opportunities in the military and feudal apparatus of a righteous Aryan king. Indeed, the service in the army of an unrighteous, or a 'Yavana', or a 'Maleccha', king was the biggest imaginable anathema for a concentious and observant vedic kshatriya in ancient India. A vedic kshatriya was not a mercenary soldier but a defender of faith and righteous order (dharma). All other kshatriya origin Hindu tribes in Punjab, like Minhas, Janjua, Salahri, etc, in the absence of opportunities in the armies of observant vedic kings turned to agriculture in some way.
Common Rajput surnames include:
Hada, Jaswal, Janjua (Janjuah), Sulehri, Thakur, Tomar, (Tanwar), Chauhan,Pathni/Pathani [पथनी], Pokhariya, Gahlaut or Gehlot or Rana, Rathore, (Rathod), Ranawat, Pundir, Parmar (Panwar), Jadaon, Jadeja [જાડેજા], Kushwaha or Kachwaha, Bhatti or Bhati, Deora, Papola, Pankaj, Bisht, Digari, Rautela, Sirari, Manral, Minhas (Manhas), Khurmi, Katoch, Parihar (Prihar, Parhar), Shekhawat, Bhadoria, Rawal, Rawat, Sikarwar, Surwar, Sankhla, Solanki, Chandel, Shahdeo, Pawar, Dhakare, Kanwar, Zala, Dangi, Madadh, Lodhi, Singraul.
 Common Maratha surnames include:
Ahirs,
Bhosale or Bhonsle(is a rajput surname descendent from sisodia rajput clan),
Chavan or Chauhan,
Chalukya (Chalke) or Chalukyas,
Gujar (Bargujar) or Gujjar,
Gaikwad or Gaykawad or Gaekwad,
Jadhav or Yadava,
Kardam or Kadam or Kadambas or Kalhapure
Maurya or Morey or Moray or More,
Nalawde (Nal) or Nala,
Pawar or Ponwar or Paramara,
Pratihara or Parihara, 
Palwe or Pallava or  Palav or Pallavas,
Rathod or Rothe,
Chandle or Chandela,
Rane or Rana,
Raut or Raoot,
Shilahar or Shelar or Shelor ( Silhara dynasty),
Salvi or Satavahanas, Andhras,
Salunkhe, Salunke, Solanki,
Shisode, Sisodia,
Thakur, Thakoor, Thakore,
Tonwar, Tuwar,Tomara, Taware,
Surve,
References:-WIKIPEDIA              sagar singh devre sonu 11:04, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  MARATHA ARE RAJPUT  

message: One more Rajput surname is Saroya. 
V S girl (talk) 18:35, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clan names and Gotras 

message: Please add Saroya to Rajput Surnames. 
V S girl (talk) 18:41, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Rajput Surname 

message: Hi,
This is ranjeet Singh Rathore
I Want to Know
Vanshawali Of Rathore
Vansawali Of  Rathore(mertiya)
& More Information About Rathore As Horse, jhanda,talvaar,nagara,kuldevi,
My Id Is Ranjeet.Rathore369@gmail.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.161.64.156 (talk) 09:16, 19 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information About Rathore(Mertiya) 

message: Yuvraj Singh is a Jat, his mother is a khatri arora, he has nothing to do with rajputs, plz remove his pic from the sikh rajput section
Tikka Sangram Singh (talk) 01:59, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yuvraj Singh is a jat, not a rajput 

message: Glad to see the Rajput page has finally turned into a Pro-Pakistan propaganda page. 
Bhutto and Jinnah Rajputs? Give me a break.
Keep up the good work in using Wikipedia as a platform for politically motivated propaganda.
Gorkhali (talk) 16:28, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rajput

message: I have found the following piece of text which I believe should be removed from the article:
The information below is taken from Rose's Glossary of the Tribes & Castes of India, Volumes 1 & 2.
Since the article is semi-protected, I would rather discuss it rather than just go ahead and remove it. If there is no objection, I will remove it myself --Maurice45 (talk) 17:31, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Random Information 

message: What happened to all the images? Shoemaker's Holiday Over 205 FCs served 04:59, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you go to the main article and hit the History tab, you can see where two pics were removed recently.  Both were removed automatically by Wikipedia, and it appears one was deleted at the source, and another deleted by WP:CSD, probably because the poster failed to provide copyright information.  If people don't follow proper procedure when putting things up, they won't last.  Speaking of which, has nobody else noticed that the article breaks down into gibberish towards the end, where someone cut out some part of the tables going into the Sources, following the words maintaining the semblance of?  If you go back into the History of the article, you can probably pinpoint where someone ignorant cut out material and ruined the article structure there. MatthewVanitas (talk) 07:06, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

text: Actually, there's tons that were in the article before the trimming, now aren't, including at least one featured picture. Shoemaker's Holiday Over 206 FCs served 20:08, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: * 13:15, 23 January 2007 Dbachmann protected Rajput ‎ (edit warring anon [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed]) (hist) 
* 02:44, 24 March 2007 Centrx unprotected Rajput ‎ (hist) 
* 05:32, 8 February 2008 YellowMonkey protected Rajput ‎ (edit war [edit=sysop:move=sysop]) (hist) 
* 17:30, 20 May 2008 Nakon changed protection level for "Rajput" ‎ (try unprotection [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed]) (hist) 
So the last change to the protection log was nearly 18 months ago and it's been semiprotected all that time. I'd like to review that to see if semiprotection is still considered necessary.  As well as welcoming views from regular editors I've contacted Nakon, the last protecting admin. --TS 03:39, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semiprotection review 

message: Jay Mataji Ki (Hail the Mother Goddess) and welcome to all Rajputs on Board of Wikipedia.
Many chapters of Rajput history are fabricated to glorify those invaders for covering up their cowardice deceptive act against brave deeds and generous quality of Rajput but no one can hide sun from shining and so is for Rajput dignity and pride.   
*Same like real Rajput History this article of Wikipedia too have seen many war and vandalism activities with ample of edits and counter edits right after its creation with piles of archived pages you can find over here. Please put your views here sensibly with counter support and reference. When you feel, your contributions to article is counter edited with contrast to your input or some thing like ‘U’ turn then do not get up set but cool down and try to defend your point. Let other too have their “Click Business” here and again keep it in mind that Wikpedia it self is creation and compilation of treasure like you and many. 
*Just for the information of some ‘new user’ of this ‘volatile’ Wkipedia article, that many users have lost their ‘edit sword’ (permanently blocked) here, may be bitter taste for them, so all user over here, try to keep things proper way otherwise will get same fate like those ‘lost warrior’ and you may get blocked too for ‘interfering’ too much to those “privileged administrators” over here. 
I am also been advised to comply with general wiki ‘guide line’ by none other than my dear friend Diannaa (Talk) who is a administrator (member of WP:GOCE) for this Rajput article page and have obeyed him with removal of saffron colored Rajput headers but putting back penny again over here and hope he will not mind at least on discussion page -:) !  
--McBapu(talk)
08:30, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rajput Discussion Page 

message: The article says "Rajputs were the first to use Singh as surname", which is a Blatant lie, and wikipedia is used for such a propaganda. Actually, it was used much before the word Rajput was coined. There is a full geneology of ancient Ahir kings of Nepal, who used this surname, like Bada Simha, Vijay Simha, Jyoti Simha. Also it was used by Deccan Ahir kings like Rudra Simha. Either accept they copied Ahirs or remove this claim. Ikon No-Blast 19:26, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have changed the wording so it is clearer that they were the first in India to use this name. It said that already, but I made it clearer. --Diannaa (talk) 02:33, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't forget Nepal has always been a Hindu kingdom, you can't disaccociate with ancient india. Further, Deccan is part of India and Rudra Simha was not a Rajput. I wonder why this claim is necessary here in the first place, when no other group with similar history is making such claim. 122.162.176.160 (talk) 02:50, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay I have removed the reference to the Singh surname as that seems to be the consensus. --Diannaa (talk) 00:04, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singh surname 

message: kirar rajput bhi agniwansi kshatriya hai prathviraj parmal or gaharwar ( bela ka gona )vansh ke yudh me 300000 lakh ranbakure mare gaye bache to sirf prathviraj, alha and raja parmal us samay rajput samaj me karib 3 lakh jawan rajput mahilaye bidhwa hui , rajputo me vidhwa vivah ki anumati nahi thi lekin rajputo ka ek tapka jo kaphi udarbadi tha usne socha ki itni vidhvao ko mar bhi nahi sakte. to kyo na vidhva vivah parampara suru ki jaye lekin samaj ke thekedaro ko yeh bat thik nahi lagi or unhone kaha ki yadi tumne vidhwa vivah parampara dali to tumko rajput samaj se bedakhal kar diya jayega lekin udarwadi rajput samaj ke kuch logo ne samaj ke thekedaro parbah kiye bina hi (natra, kara dhara) ek nayi vibah pratha suru ki jiske karan ham logo ka nam kirar rajput pada baise ham log chouhan surname likhte hai hum khshetriyo ke hi bansaj hai lekin udarwadita ke karan ham aaj kirar khsatriya samaj ke nam se jane jate hai, yadi kisi ko koi sak hai to rajasthan jakar rao bhato se pata kar le ki ham rajput hai ya nahi
prem singh chouhan 
...someone translate please.  74.98.219.137 (talk) 00:28, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translate 

message: muslims cannot be Rajputs. Rajputs that converted to islam in the past gave up their right to be Rajputs when they converted because Rajputs are Hindu warriors and their sole purpose is to defend the Hindu faith not change their religion. So there is no such thing as a muslim Rajput.  So please fix this in Wikipedia where it talks about what religion they follow.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by RoyalXI (talk • contribs) 02:52, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real Rajputs 

message: This article is one of a  number (about 100) selected for the early stage of the trial of the Wikipedia:Pending Changes system on the English language Wikipedia. All the articles listed at Wikipedia:Pending changes/Queue   are being considered for level 1 pending changes protection.
The following request appears on that page:
Comments on the suitability of theis page for "Penfding changes"  would be appreciated.
Please update the Queue page as appropriate.
Note that I am not involved in this project any much more than any other editor, just posting these notes since it is quite a big change, potentially
Regards, Rich Farmbrough, 23:40, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this is a good candidate for the Pending Changes test. Diannaa TALK 00:37, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pending changes 

message: Yadu was the eldest son of Yayati (father of Yadavs). It is written in the Vishnu Puran that he did not inherit his father's throne. He, therefore, retired towards Punjab and Iran. He had five sons out of whom Except Satjit and Krishna, three remained childless. Satjit had three sons Bibai (Biveya), Hai (Heya) whose descendants are Jats of 'Heer' gotra and Ahai (Aheya) who founded the Ahir community.
proof:- History of the Jats, Rohtak, India (1938, 1967)
Rajputs and huns tribe and they never used "Yadav" as last name or surname ever in indian history.So Rajput's clam they "yadav" use to be thier last name is completely incorrect and untrue.
ahirs and yadavs are one and the same thing  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.132.133 (talk) 10:12, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Jadaun is apabhransha of Sanskrit Yadava. Jadaun , a vernacular form of Yadava, is a bonafide Rajput lineage which is still in existence. The Sankrit mural and texts mention these Rajput lineages as Yadava only.  And so are Sammas (from Krishna's son Sambh), Jadejas, etc.  Please don't push your personal theories about the facts already well established. If you look around, you can easily find references for this.--History Sleuth (talk) 02:09, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Dear Permabanned editor Internet scholar aka history sleuth, don't confuse Yadav with jadaun and also don't forget the same Sammas are called Ahir Ranas. Ikon No-Blast 07:13, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ahirs and yadavs are ancient warrior castes and not rajputs? 

message: The Sisodia’s were of Scythian origin and historians derive their name from Sassanian, just as Jat derives from Gatae, Ahir from Avar, Gujar from Khazar, Thakur from Tukharian. The Scythian or Saka tribes were the last pre-Islamic migrants into India. Some entered the plains through the Bolan Pass, and settled in Rajasthan which is why some Rajput, Gujar and Jat clans such as Pawar, Chauhan, Rathi, Sial etc.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.132.133 (talk) 10:15, 8 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  AJGAR:- Ahir,Jat ,Gujjar and Rajputs are all ancient foreign  nomads and all same. 

message: Fact is Rajputs are ancient hun tribes and were never mentioned in Historic religious or vedic books.The word Raja-putra in some vedic books which Today rajputs say and corelate that raja-putra means rajputs in vedic books is wrong as Raja-Putra in sanskrit and hindi means "Raja as King and Putra as son ."Kings- son" can be any person from any caste or tribe.
Jats were considered shudras in hinduism by bhramins however the great Sikh guru converted them to sikhism and improved their social status.And since then they became above Ahir/Yadav and Gujjar which left behind.
Rajput word came into existance in 6 bc .Their status were raised by bhramans of that era who used to protect them and donate money and in return bhramins gave them top status. Jats ,ahirs/Yadavs and Gujjars were considered shudras by bhramins as they were against Bhramins.
Rajputs were Huns tribe ,Jats were Getae tribe , Ahir/ Abhira ar Yadavs were Avar tribe people, and Gujjars were great Khazar tribe.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.129.35 (talk) 11:05, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Actual word is not Rajput, it is Ruj, meaning semen or sperm. One may check Visnu Purana. Ikon No-Blast 03:03, 18 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rajputs ,jats ,ahir/Yadav and Gujjars are same and ancient nomadic tribes 

message: I think this page should be shifted to Rajput(Hindu), and a disambiguation page should be here like Yadav, listing, Rajput Muslim, Ranga, Rangarh etc., Ikon No-Blast 18:22, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation Required 

message: To Diana and other admins who are monitoring this page. Please, write this page in a better way. Presently, the page is full of fictions, to put it more correctly, Nonesense. First, you must tag the article that it is not reliable, because such type of pages only reduces the credibility of Wikipedia. If, editors are serious, it is better to delete this page and start over again, else, revert to 3 years back version, which was developed with such painstaking efforts. Existence of This page in present state is like abusing the editors who for years have devoted their time and resources into this article, and which is now part of Talk Page archives, and older versions. I hope someone would listen here. Ikon No-Blast 20:53, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you provide at least a few concrete examples as to exactly what you see as the major problems?  Otherwise it's impossible to differentiate your concerns from those of people who just want to press a POV or fringe theories.  If you can point out specific grievous errors, and link us to reputable sources that contradict them, that would go a long way towards clarifying your concerns. MatthewVanitas (talk) 03:51, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

text: Again, I emphasise that, while it may be interesting to do one's own research in the Vishnu Puran, and findings therein are immaterial to this article because original research is not admissible to Wikipedia.  If you find a linguistic claim set forth by a reputed researcher, you can cite that and quote it, but you can't come to a conclusion independently, cite it to an original text, and add it here. If you achieve some great revelation in your research, it must first be published in a reputable academic journal or book, and only then added here. MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:19, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This entire article is written without any reference. It does not quote a single scholarly opinion on the subject. It is full of personal opinions of the editors. Rajbaaz again and again try to refute the vishnu purana. Ok, I have failed to give you the online citation, where it mentions creation of Rajput, so till I give you, you can forget it. But, why there are no scholarly opinions on any matter in the entire article, and if someone provides, it would get deleted. That is not the way to go, and definetily not on the subject which has been scrutinzed by so many scholars of repute. Ikon No-Blast 19:33, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Page reduces Wikipedia's Credibility 

message: Hi. 
*I have changed the wording of the opening sentence to match correct English grammar and syntax.
*I am not keen to have the phrase "in India" appear in the opening sentence since Rajputs live in Pakistan, Kashmir, Bangladesh, all over the world through immigration. Is there some way this bit can be re-worded or removed? --Diannaa (Talk) 20:08, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  November 2010 

message: I have noted that you  User:MatthewVanitas took the lead on my comment directed to user Mkrestin about  removing the word Kshatriya from Rajput article lead sentence. By trying to juggle with the words and giving and edit summary as such.  By juggling the words, please note that Rajput's do not cease to Kshatriya. Please instead of juggling try to remove word Kshatriya and give authentic support to you biased view. Kshatriya is already classifed as a verna. Writing Hindu Kshatriya or Kshatriya varna does not change the fact that Rajput are Kshatriya. Like I had said in that article let anyone remove word Kshatriya & let the floodgates open. And if any one cannot give authentic support Rajput are not Kshatriya then let other editors who object and remove the word Kshatriya & Rajput  in other articles will be charged of vandalism. Cheers!!R P Jethwa (talk) 07:36, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is not mine;  the problem is that editors have largely neglected to provide any footnotes for this article.  So far as I and any neutral editors are concerned, any contestable claim which is not supported by a reputable foonote is subject to removal.  It is not incumbent to me to prove that Rajputs are not Kshatriya in order to remove the word.  It is incumbent upon you to find a proper footnote if you want the word included. MatthewVanitas (talk) 02:02, 5 December 2010 (UTC)

text: I'm seeing a lot of typing, but I'm not seeing a lick of footnoting added to the article.  My concern is that there are a lot of caste articles adding "Kshatriya" when a look at historical texts indicates they were Shurda until the 1920s when they started calling themselves Kshatriya, organising politically, and getting Brahmins to "discover" a Kshatriya ancestry for them.  Particularly thinking of the Kunbis in this example.  The Rajputs appear to have their own issues, where a lot of non-Rajput tribes were pulled into the Rajput sphere over time for various political/economic reasons, losing their original caste.  It's a complicated issue that shouldn't be oversimplified.  But the main takeaway is that potentially controversial statements (and most caste identifications fall in that category) should be backed up with proper footnotes.  The article Rajput is chronically under-footnoted, and this greatly reduces its credibility. MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:13, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rajput & Kshatriya 

message: Ahirs are included in  in 36 royal races of Rajputs. Many clans of Ahirs like Ahir Sorathia, Ahir Maschoiya, Aheers and Harals of Pakistan, Dhangars of Maharastra and lastly Aharwar or Ahars of UP and Madhya Pradesh, are known as Chandravanshi Rajputs.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sumitkachroo (talk • contribs) 10:07, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Many clans of  AHIRS are included  in Rajputs 

message: I checked out History of Rajputs, and the article is extremely disorganised, with varying referencing formats, no clear chronology in most of it, huge chunks of very short sections focused more on identifying sub-groups than actually providing history, etc.  I've proposed sweeping cleanup on the Talk page of that article.  Please provide any input on that page as I prepare to wade in with a cleaver. MatthewVanitas (talk) 16:41, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propose sweeping cleanup of [[History of Rajputs]]