Talk:Wensleydale cheese

message: I removed the following on the basis of WP:NPOV commercial bias.
There may still be some facts to be gleaned from it so I have preserved it here.
GameKeeper 21:50, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This article promotes Real Wensleydale cheese, a product of a company called "the Wensleydale Creamery" in Hawes. This company makes cheese only with a substitute for animal rennet to make it "Suitable for vegetarians". 
Best of luck to the Wensleydale Creamery in its efforts to sell this none traditional kind of cheese but it is misleading to call it "real" in the sense that it has a tradition behind it. Being made with a rennet substitute  ensures that has nothing to do with the qualities that gave Wensleydale cheese it reputation.
Every effort is being made with lots of publicity to sell the products of this company, best of luck to them but it is an inferior product and it will eventually lose its reputation when people find a better. But as it stands it is misleading.
At this link About Us you will see that they claim a traditional recipe, but cheese was made in Wensleydale long before the attempts were made to find a substitute see here Rennet This link How its made explains about the addition of rennet at stge 3, without saying what rennet is used; however many of their cheeses are described as Catalogue suitable for vegetarians, in fact I enquired if they made any other kind and they said no.
This article is not about Wensleydale cheese, it is only a publicity puff for the Wensleydale Creamery in Hawes. Putting stuff like this in Wikipedia it is quite contrary to policy, it is a plain attempt to corrupt Wikipedia in the same way as the company is trying to profit using the name of a fine cheese  --Damorbel (talk) 08:27, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Suitable for vegetarians" 

message: I don't see why the article can't mention the Cheese Shop Sketch, where the proprieter is actually named Mr. Wensleydale, but does mention Walllace and Gromit, where the moon is supposed to be possibly made out of Wensleydale cheese.Mtsmallwood (talk) 20:43, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Did you read the content regarding Wallace and Gromit? That is no passing mention and there is documentary evidence that sales were significantly affected by the product being featured in the film. The cheese shop sketch is definitely just a passing mention and not worthy of feature in this article. --Simple Bob (talk) 21:28, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently, the versions of Wrong Trousers released in various media markets substitute Wensleydale for other cheeses. French.wiki on "cheddar" says that "cheddar" is used in French release. And in U.S. release it is "Stilton". I don't have references, so I'm not adding this to the article. Vagabond nanoda (talk) 02:43, 15 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cheese Shop vs. Wallace and Gromit 

message: From day one of this article, this line has been in the history section: 
"Wensleydale cheese was first made by French Cistercian monks from the Roquefort region, who had settled in Wensleydale. They built a monastery at Fors, but some years later the monks moved to Jervaulx in Lower Wensleydale."
Yet, the wiki article on Jervaulx Abbey http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jervaulx_Abbey says that the monks who established the monastery at Fors were Cistercians from Savigny Abbey in France -- Savigny Abbey is in Normandy, Northern France. Roquefort is in southern France. Is the Roquefort connection just "marketing" or other "bumpf" which snuck in at the beginning and has been unquestioned since? 
Randal Oulton (talk) 18:41, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roquefort Connection? Error? 

message: I have made a small number of revisions to the article to reduce the intensity of the 'commercial publicity' content of the text. --Damorbel (talk) 07:17, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latest revision. 

message: I think that we should consider saying it's type of cheese at the begining.  It's not any cheese that just happens to be made in Wensleydale.  You could make some chedder in Wensleydale and it wouldn't be Wensleydale, it be chedder.
I know there's this regional 'where it comes from' thing, which apparently the French are very keen on.  However, I don't think it's critical for English cheeses.
Dannman (talk) 10:48, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. The article is appallingly skewed - the vast majority of Wensleydale cheese sold in UK shops is industrial slab cheese made in creameries operated by big dairy companies like Dairy Crest, and it certainly isn't made in Wensleydale. I'm going to rephrase the lead to reflect this but the article really needs a complete rewrite. --Ef80 (talk) 19:17, 10 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Place made vs. type 

message: Substituted at 18:44, 17 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Why is there mention of Wensleydale Creamery at all, let alone A Section (?). What relevance, other than they happen to make cheese, is any of the information.  Is it actually notable in some way?  I'd like to delete it.
Dannman (talk) 11:08, 23 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the only significant producer of Wensleydale cheese actually located in Wensleydale, so it probably deserves a mention, but the current section is overly promotional and excessively long. It also implies that Wensleydale cheese can't be made anywhere else, which is nonsense. --Ef80 (talk) 19:03, 12 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Wensleydale Creamery 

message: This section focuses entirely on a single creamery based on the type of Wensleydale it produces which would be more acceptable if the article was only about Yorkshire Wensleydale, but as it covers the cheese in general its inclusion here appears to give it undue prominence. It also produces numerous cheeses in addition to Wensleydale, information about which would be valuable in a separate article but is not relevant here. Rather than deleting much of the section I suggest that it be split off into a new creamery article and that the cheese article retain only the information on the PGI status as part of the history. EdwardUK (talk) 15:00, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Support - I don't think this section is bad here, but a separate article might make more sense. Jonpatterns (talk) 17:32, 9 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split proposed