Talk:Abyss (wrestler)

message: i dont know maybe its just me but i feel the picture of abyss maskless should be replaced with a pic of him wearing the mask since thats really what hes known for.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.171.120.165 (talk) 02:29, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The subject of this encyclopedia article is Chris Parks, not the character of Abyss. Yagobo79 (talk) 08:15, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a horrible picture... it is exactly what he looks like and the pic is only a month old. Yagobo79 (talk) 06:43, 25 October 2008 (UTC)

text: That really has no bearing. The picture was taken by a fan at a press conference. No, most other masked wrestler articles don't have an unmasked picture, because one isn't available that complies with WP:IMAGE. Abyss is a character, played by Parks. It's hardly on the offensive and insulting level to show him unmasked. This isn't lucha libre where you can be fined for mask violations. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 00:54, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As a former wrestler myself (to give you some perspective of where I'm coming from), I can tell you from experience that it is considered rude (and downright disrespectful) to show an image of a currently masked wrestler without consent from that person (up there with fans using wrestlers' real name when addressing them). In most cases, the mask is their whole identity and what they are mostly associated with. If you don't think it's insulting, I suggest you take a copy of that picture, go up to Abyss, address him as Chris Parks and ask him to sign it; see if he's not insulted. The main argument for using the unmasked picture is that the article is about Chris Parks and not Abyss, but if that's the case, why are his height and weight given as the character's details and not the man behind the character? HDC7777 (talk) 19:10, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If Abyss really feels that way, perhaps he shouldn't have allowed himself to be photographed unmasked at an event. As for your question, it's because there is no source for Parks' real height and weight, but plenty for the height and weight he's billed at while playing Abyss. Gavyn Sykes (talk) 21:52, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Friend in Florida has a different picture (not the unmasked one here) signed nov'09. He is in a checked shirt. mmaskless and its signed Abyss. HDC not everyone lives the character 24/7. Would that be a better picture if hes wwilling to scan and share it ?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.217.38.167 (talk) 06:13, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Maskless Picture

message: I've found no evidence to support the claim that Abyss played in the NFL with the Steelers, so I've taken it out of the article.Gook14 (talk) 23:00, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: NFL Career

message: Perhaps someone should look into his education. According to this article he began attending University at the age of 15 and attained a "bachelors degree" and a "masters degree" before beginning a job as DIRECTOR OF MARKETTING at the age of 20 for TWO separate sports franchises! I'm sorry, but this is complete garbage. There is no way this is possible. Someone should edit this page to remove unverifiable garbage. The number 2 source provided is an unreliable fan site and it also states the bit about him playing in the NFL which is untrue.
and the number 7 source doesn't show anything to back up this story.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.176.172.179 (talk) 19:14, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The Miami Herald story still exists, but it's behind their paywall. Does anybody have an account, to be able to reverify the text? (Or verify his DOB? That could be a simpler explanation for the date discrepancy.) —C.Fred (talk) 16:01, 24 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Unfortunately, your inquiry is in the realm of original research. It's certainly not verifiable, though I agree that it means we should give more scrutiny to the claims from the Slam article. —C.Fred (talk) 01:26, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Is it verifiable by any means other than calling the Cyclones and asking for Sean? —C.Fred (talk) 14:48, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

text: However, it sheds enough doubt on the true nature of the position that I've changed the wording to an "off-ice job." Likewise, I've removed the date of birth, which I don't see backed up in any source, nor was it referenced to one. —C.Fred (talk) 14:58, 26 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Education

message: While looking into the recent edits here, I noticed that there is no source for his date of brith. His SLAM! Sports bio backs up his place of birth, but not date. Does anybody have a source for the date? Otherwise, WP:BLP suggests it should be removed from the article. —C.Fred (talk) 16:20, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Date of birth

message: Question - Abyss was the first pro wrestler granted a Power Ring by Hulk Hogan. Should we make a "Hulkamania Corps" page separate, or just include it under Abyss' page? Obviously there's not a lot of info on the Corps yet, beyond their headquarters is in Orlando and Hulk is the leader of the group and creator of the Power Rings. I believe this is their oath, though:
In Main Event
or Curtain Jerk
No one shall tell me I can't work
Let those who dare to say they're tougher
Fall to my leg drop
Hulkamania, Brother!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.130.196.120 (talk) 20:01, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If there's not a lot of info on the Corps—and no sources on it—then they certainly don't need their own page. I'd also advise against adding it here unless it can be sourced reliably. —C.Fred (talk) 21:32, 4 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Hulkamania Corps?

message: Since the timeframe is 2003-2005 (I believe), shouldn't it be higher up, maybe after "Training and debut"? 74.129.253.192 (talk) 02:47, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ring of Honor career section placement 

message: Abyss seems to have lost them of recent. Is there any info on this that can be added to the article?
:That'll be RVD.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.28.21.130 (talk) 01:05, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Front teeth 

message: I remember when Abyss was wrestling for the International Wrestling Association (IWA) of Puerto Rico between 2002 and 2003, and some several times for the World Wrestling Council (WWC). But before he was nicknamed as "The Monster" in TNA, he was nicknamed as "The Human Mole" (or in Spanish "La Mole Humana") Here's an example video of him wrestling in Puerto Rico: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNMOmpn8no4
jlog3000 (talk) 16:16, 26 June 2012 (UTC)
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message: Sorry, no. That image of Chris Parks in tie dye and maskless is not typical of how people view him and thus should not be lead image of the article. Per MOS:IMAGELEAD, "It is common for an article's lead or infobox to carry a representative image‍ ...‌to give readers visual confirmation that they've arrived at the right page" (emphasis mine). Abyss is typically associated with a masked appearance. As proof, take a look at what the Google Image returns for the phrase "Abyss wrestler". Of the first couple of dozen images that come back, at least 2/3rd of them (if not more) are of Abyss with a mask. So the lead image should be of him with a mask. Tabercil (talk) 13:38, 19 February 2018 (UTC)
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