Talk:Tyrannicide

message: If I remember right, she was assassinated by her Sikh guards after she took actions that damaged a Sikh temple. Memorable quote: "My father was a saint, I ain't." 24.121.199.3 (talk) 00:57, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indira Gandhi? 

message: "Tyrannicide" is not a useful term if it just means the killing of a classical tyrant.  The real significant meaning I think is an assassination that is justified by claiming the person killed was a "tyrant" in the modern sense of the word.  I voted to delete the "modern tyrants" section on list of tyrants because such an 'authoritative' list is inherently POV; nevertheless, to illustrate this article I think it is not only helpful but necessary to include some examples of claimed "tyrannicides".  For example, Johm Wilkes Booth justified his killing of Abraham Lincoln by claiming the latter was a tyrant; he is even said to have shouted "Sic semper tyrannis!" upon firing the shots.  Saying that Booth considered his act "tyrannicide" is just factual, and in no way indicts Lincoln as a "tyrant".--Pharos 23:44, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Context and significance

message: So there. Also, please do read your shakespear. Macbeth was not "murdered". He murdered King Duncan and was then killed in battle. So thats not tyrannicide according to the definition.Tourskin 06:12, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Macbeth was not murdered, he was killed in battle by Macduff. Thats not tyrranicide! 

message: Per the definition, the execution of Saddam Hussein doesn not qualify--rather than an assassination, it was an execution as a result of trial and sentencing (regardless of where you stand on the legitimacy of his removal from power). Tlesher 23:36, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saddam Hussein 

message: I reverted User:4.242.186.245's edits diff due to verbatim copyright violation taken from this site.  Cheers. --slakr 23:55, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert of 4.242.186.245's addition 

message: I actually think that there is a place in this article for a section on tyrannicide in fiction.  As a literary device, it is extremely popular, though I'm a bit miffed by the video game trivia there now.  A lot of our common folklore, and it seems every Disney animation deals with the subject.  Lord of the Rings or Chronicles of Narnia are probably more classic encyclopedic examples than Yu-Gi-Oh.  So I'm removing the current trivia.  Most of it, like King Ganondorf, are regicides not tyrannicides anyways.--Patrick «» 05:29, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: I removed Anwar El Sadat from the "Notable Tyrannicides' list. He was the president of Egypt, not its tyrant, until his assassination in 1981 by Khalid Islambouli. A real tyrant could hardly have been a Nobel Peace Prize laureate , as Sadat was in 1978. He may have been impopular among the more radical portion of Egypt's muslim population, but that does not make him a tyrant. Regards, --AVM (talk) 01:46, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fair. Sadat was a dictator, though tyranny is hard to pin down. Clearly there need to be independent sources in this section. Perhaps it needs a banner above it.--Patrick «» 02:58, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anwar El Sadat, a tyrant? 

message: Lincoln was the most famous tyrant in American history, and died a famous death.  Why is he missing from the list?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.32.58.125 (talk) 04:43, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Lincoln comes and goes from the list on this page. While I disagree with your statement that he was a tyrant, I do believe he belongs on this page, which is why he is mentioned in below the list, along with Saddam, both of which are not really tyrannicides.--Patrick «» 15:36, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is Lincoln missing? 

message: Unclear issues:
Harmodius and Aristogeiton are called "the original tyrannicides" without any
motivation given. Because we can almost certainly rule out that they were the
first to murder a tyrant, the claim is either faulty or based on some other
criterion, e.g. that they were the first to which this specific term was
applied. Depending on which the statement should be removed or clarified.
Naming Gustav III as a tyrant is highly contentious, and I suggest either
removing him or putting him in the separate list of contentious cases. (Which
could very well include several others named: I just happen to be more
well-read in the history of Sweden than other countries.)
Ceausescu was executed after a (military?) trial, and is therefore not the
victim of tyrannicide in the stricter meaning.
88.77.191.244 (talk) 15:07, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear issues 

message: The entire "Tyrannicide in fiction" section is Original Research.
We need suitable sources that SAY something about Tyrannicide - not some people reviewing primary sources 
(works of fiction) and deciding they constitute notable instances of tyrannicide. (Note that even the Shakespeare reference says nothing about "tyrannicide", but only tyranny.) 214.4.238.180 (talk) 16:08, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tyrannicide in fiction 

message: In the Literature Section there are far too many 'likes' in there.  I don't have the time to change it but just to put it out there.Dmcl404 (talk) 21:28, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Literature Section 

message: i'm rather surprised by the dearth of reference to specific ancient ideas about tyrannicide.  aristotle and plato do not speak, for example, of a moral duty to kill the tyrant, but cicero (see on duties, bk 3, for example) and the romans generally assumed it to be a moral duty without much argument.  i think this calls for further discussion because this roman tradition informed medieval thinking about resisting and killing tyrants. -- chris  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.97.132.246 (talk) 00:43, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  ancient theories 

message: Vladimir Putin is guilty of WAR crimes "Special Military Operation" in 2022. 2603:900B:A0D:57FF:4CEA:2EEE:65C8:7624 (talk) 08:48, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  #TyrannicidePUTIN