Talk:Isle of Man/Archive 2

message: 'During the period of Julius Caesar as proconsul and his visit to Britain during 55 and 54 BC referred to the Isle of Man in his Commentarii de Bello Gallico to 'an island called Mona which lies midway across the sea separating Britain from Ireland.''
I'm loath to edit this out myself, seeing as I'm not too knowledgeable about this, but Mona is used to refer to Anglesey (Ynis Mon in Welsh) and not the Isle of Man.
This is a difficult area.  It is correct that the Romans referred to Anglesey as Mona.  The final names adopted by the Romans where Mona (Anglesey) and Monavia (Isle of Man).  The name for Anglesey in Welsh is Môn which is similar to the early Manx Gaelic name Manu.  This can be found using the reference;- The Isle of Man. A Social, Cultural and Political History. by R.H.Kinvig pp18 (1975)(3rd Edition) Liverpool University Press 
It is also interesting to note that the the name Mona was a common girls name on the Isle of Man.  The Isle of Man Steam Packet Company have also had ships named Mona's Isle and Mona's Queen and the Isle of Man Railway Company named one of their steam locomotives Mona. 
{Agljones 11:30, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Julius Caesar and Mona 

message: The page claims that English and Manx are the official languages of IOM.  Does anyone have a credible source to support this?  I have looked on the linked pages and found nothing.  Anyone?
https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/geos/im.html
Happy now? Manxruler 00:22, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not quite. The CIA World Factbook doesn't list only official languages, but includes all languages widely spoken (see e.g. its entry for Ghana). As far as I know, the Isle of Man has no 'official' language. Perhaps we should follow the UK article and put "(de facto)" in there? Crebbin 11:07, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I can find a discussion from the FSC where members state that there isn't an official language but English is the language of the administration. -Localzuk(talk) 11:22, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official languages of IOM? 

message: That's the first I've heard that Manx people find the term Irish Sea 'offensive'. I've never met anyone who actually cares what it's called outside of Mec Vannin. I wager only a tiny proportion of the Manx population find the term 'Irish Sea' offensive.
Ali0th 10:07, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: LOL Yeah but I'm sure if you get some of Mec Vannin logged on to wikipedia they'll see that the issue is given due weight :) --feline1 10:20, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irish sea offensive? 

message: The first three sections, Geography, People, and Culture, are rendered without their corresponding [edit] links on the same line.  Instead, these links appear on the first line under the  box.  I assume it's a problem with the template, and will try to discuss it with the appropriate party there, but I am making the note here, as well. -- Eliyahu S Talk 13:49, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rendering Bug on Page 

message: I've added an extra forum link.  If anyone else has links then please add them.  Someone keeps removing links claiming that Wikipedia doesn't allow them but this is bollocks.  Just keep adding them.  Xania 22:14, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Xania, our rules do not allow forums. They are not acceptable as external links I'm afriad. Please take a look at this, this and this. If they keep being added it may lead to a block due to disruptive editing.-Localzuk(talk) 19:57, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: I removed the following because I suspect its a joke unless someone can provide proper references for it.
In recent years there has been a resurgence of interest in Juan of Ronague, Saint of Mann. Juan (a popular Manx name, pronounced Jewan) was born c.685 AD in Ronague and martyred in 803 AD fighting Vikings that had razed Peel Castle. As was the norm in Celtic times he was recognised as a Saint during his lifetime.
St Juan is traditionally associated with the little people, indeed it is said they brought him up. The legends of St Juan are chronicled in the book "Juan of Ronague, Saint of Mann", which tells of his early years, his battles with the Buggane, and his travels to Ireland and Iceland. His fellow travellers were Ned Cashin, St Breeshey, and Figol a talking ferret. The book was published in 2005, by the St Juan Foundation.
Every year on the 8th March (the anniversary of Juan's death) it is said that members of the Foundation, along with the secretive "Knights of the High Corracle of St Juan" meet at an undisclosed inn and eat, drink, and be merry, whilst recounting some of Juan's tales of daring-do.
:: Did you try Google? There is definitely a 132 page book of the the title published by The Saint Juan Foundation. May be based in folklore as opposed to a joke (the little people are what we call the fairies that live in various locations around the Island) but Manx history, traditions and folklore are definitely in resurgence. By the way, fact or fiction, more people say hello to themselves (the little people) as they cross Fairy Bridge than go to church :) Ripsaw 01:23, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Probable nonsense - Juan of Ronague

message: 87.254.86.254 11:07, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Places of Interest? 

message: someone wrote gaaayboooy and when I try edit the page, I can't delete it.  someone help!
:Its just lag in the Wikipedia server - it'll catch up in a few minutes Mammal4 16:47, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: What are TT fans and the TT festival? --AW 18:45, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is mentioned later in the article under the sport section but it is the Isle of Man TT which is a motorbike road racing event. I have added a wikilink to the food and drink section now.-Localzuk(talk) 18:54, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TT? 

message: Just wondering as to whether the motto "Whithersoever you throw it, it will stand" refers to the Irish myth to its origins</br>
Gcrossan 00:34, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The motto has nothing to do with fairy tales of giants, it is a direct reference to the 3 legs emblem and it's inner strength gained from centuries of foreign (English)interference. Ripsaw 00:58, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isle of Man Motto 

message: Just started - more info required. Osborne 08:01, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flora anf Fauna

message: British Islands Passports? Ok i know that people Born on the Isle of Man and indeed the Channel Islands are British Citizens and have "British Islands Isle of Man /Balliwick of jersey /guernsey " on the front cover but does this have it on the Photo page cause my passport (being born in the United Kingdom and in Northern Ireland says "United Kingdom Of Great Britain and Northern Ireland" on the front Cover but also at the top of the Info page where you Picture is what does it say in  the British Islands one ???
:unsigned edit by 217.41.240.15
:I believe that the details page also reads 'British Islands XXX', just like the cover.
:Incidentally, the passports aren't related to whether or not someone is born on the islands. They are the variant of passport issued by the passport offices in the Crown dependencies. If a 'UK person' applies for a passport from the Isle of Man authorities, they will be supplied with an Isle of Man variant, and if a Manxman applies for a passport from the UK Passport Agency, they'll be supplied a with a UK variant.
:Mauls 22:13, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly right Mauls, and I can confirm that the photo page states 'British Islands: Isle of Man' at the top.-Localzuk(talk) 18:34, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: British Islands Passports

message: The article does cite references and has information on importance. These boxes were added without any explanation on the talk page.
If a problem is perceived, an individual section should be tagged. Tagging an article of this length, in this way, without explanation, is not helpful.
Mauls 22:16, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References and Importance boxes