Talk:Pip (South Park)

message: Highly underrated IMHO, and reminiscent of How to Kill a Mockingbird...  Or the Quahog version of The King and I from the show what uses manatees for writers... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.2.124.11 (talk) 15:56, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Underrated

message: If only the real Great Expectations was like this, actually made a bit more sense than the real book. (This is a little hyperbole but the plot from the actual book did make very little sense and had a lot of convenient coincidences that I wont spoil, although you could look at the wikipedia entry for it) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.88.162.203 (talk) 23:07, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Made more sense

message: Does it bother anyone that in the trivia it says The British person is also Lindermen in the NBC show "Heroes"
I feel that It should atleast be changed to Malcolm McDowell. Also if we are going to list his credits they should all be there. Heroes seems like another "lost" good the first season but something next season will steal heroes viewers. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.243.215.14 (talk) 00:50, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Heroes

message: It worries me that this episode is mis-quoted. Malcolm McDowell never says the line "Your 'umble narrator". Although there are references to A Clockwork oranges, this is not one. So could this bit of triva be removed?
Also missed out is the line that Pip says to the escaped convict, "Did we breaky-wakys out of prison?" which to me is a sort of reference to the NADSAT spoken by Malcolm McDowell's character in A Clockwork Orange. Indeed his character talks about "Eggiwegs". — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cundallmark (talk • contribs) 13:39, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References to ''A Clockwork Orange''

message: In Great Expectations, the lady's name is Miss Havisham - however at 03:29, it is quite clear that the Estate is called the 'Havesham Estate' - surely meaning that she should be Miss Havesham. Is there any other information to say otherwise? Chrislawrence5 09:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Havishams

message: The music that is playing at the beginning of the episode (when 'A British Person' is introducing the episode)and during the closing credits is Spring from The Four Seasons, by Vivaldi - an Italian composer. Just thought I'd point it out. NIN 21:48, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And, of course, the reason Vivaldi is used in this context is to parody Masterpiece Theater, an anthology series on public television in the U.S. that starts with similar Baroque music, opens with an introduction by a "British Person" (originally Alistair Cooke), and features mostly adaptations of great British literature. 75.73.101.252 (talk) 17:11, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: O, now I finally come to fully understand Sesame Street's Monsterpeace Theater, featuring Alistair Cookie! :-) You see, in Europe we don't get such jokes as we can't see American tv. Btw, it's a pity that this episode is so unpopular, I just watched it and loved it! (I love the real Great Expectations, too, by the way). Steinbach (talk) 21:24, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  British Interpretation 

message: I can't help but wonder if the voice of Joe in this episode was none other than Eric Idle. I can't find any proof of it, and its not in the credits, but gosh darn it it really sounds like him. I know Trey and Matt are highly influenced by Monty Python and that Idle has lent his voice in the movie. Even if it wasn't him, the scenes with Joe are extremely reminiscent of Monty Python particularly, from the abstract humor of Joe's character to the signature Monty Python-esque man-doing-a-woman, scratchy voice of his wife. Your thoughts? Mac OS X 22:05, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was looking for this article to look for Monty Python references; this episode definitely seems to refer to it. Joepnl (talk) 23:37, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Joe was voiced by South Park staff writer Kyle McCulloch. I added this info to the article. --Mondotta (talk) 19:29, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Python of the Monty Nature 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:405 dance.gif

message: Sorry this is just bugging me. What is the name of the song that is played when the episode opens on McDowell & during the credits? I know it's widely known but I can't place the name, could someone please tell me what it is? --76.255.82.119 (talk) 02:10, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music at Beginning & Credits 

message: It says at the begin of this article that "The character Pip appeared in an unaired pilot for the series, which was not released until 2009 on the South Park Studios website." Well I checked the site an found no such thing, if "74.131.138.98" could explain, that would be lovely.--Sir Joe Cool (talk) 07:21, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The unaired pilot was made available on SouthParkStudios.com only for a short period of time. However, it actually had been released before on DVD (limited release), and the information is correct. I added info regarding this. --Mondotta (talk) 19:32, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's all this then? 

message: Shouldn't there be a reception section for the episode? The episode received a LOT of negative reviews, with even Matt Stone ad Trey Parker saying this is one of the most hated episodes of the series. TJ Spyke 21:57, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you've found a lot of negative reviews, why not add them? Alastairward (talk) 11:48, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception 

message: I have removed the notability tag from the article, as I believe the episode is notable for being one of the most unpopular episodes of the series, as well for its rather unique presentation. (These are reflected now in the article.) --Mondotta (talk) 01:26, 3 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability 

message: He needs to come back. I like him.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.243.101.88 (talk) 02:21, 31 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bring Pip Back to Life 

message: "To achieve this look, a lot of assets had to be built from scratch." ... "To achieve the style, a lot of assets had to be built from scratch"...
Those are the only two uses of the term "asset" in the article, with no clear direct attribution to support the imperative tone ("HAD to be built... from SCRATCH!!"). And what sort of lumber does one use to build these assets? nails, screws, glue?  Weeb Dingle (talk) 15:59, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: For that matter, what is the definition of "a lot"? Who determines such threshholds? Is "a lot" more (or less) than "a whole bunch"? Why is it of any relevance (let alone significance) that "a lot" were (was?) required?  Weeb Dingle (talk) 17:47, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: animation terminology

message: The DVD contains a short audio commentary on every episode from Parker and Stone. Episodes of season 4 have also been released digitally, on services such as Amazon Video,[31] the iTunes Store,[32] and Xbox Live Marketplace.[33] Like most episodes of South Park, "Pip" was formerly available to watch for free on the show's website, SouthParkStudios.com, but is now available to watch as part of the Hulu Plus subscription-based streaming video service.
Is any of that particularly relevant to this specific episode??
And FWIW, Comedy Central's site (cc.com) makes a rotating slate of free episodes available for viewing (35 at the moment) selected apparently at random from South Park's twenty seasons. Weeb Dingle (talk) 17:40, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: relevant reference information, or crass marketing plug?

message: There appears to be some strange bias on display in this article, where editors compete over just how terrible "Pip" is, and precisely how loathed it is by fans. Nobody questions whether it is in fact disliked.
When Stone/Parker are asked about the worst episodes they'd made (to that point), they cite "Pip"... after the first 48 episodes. Those first seasons contain more than a few respected gems, not least being "Chef Aid." No comment is made as to whether "Pip" is somehow worse, or better.
According to the stats thumbnail for the episode (at southpark.cc.com), "Pip" has been viewed 2.2 million times. Two Season 4 episodes have 3.3 million each. These numbers reflect online views since being moved to the current platform. As all episodes (to that time) thus began at zero, this is likely an accurate running tally of viewers who actually sought out individual episodes.
While "Pip" is lowest of that season, the count is typical for the early years (particularly Season 2), with few episodes having yet topped 4 million views. Maybe "Pip" is a guilty pleasure, but people have clearly gone out of their way to watch this "failed" installment. Weeb Dingle (talk) 17:40, 5 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: what unpopularity?

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