Talk:Colombia/Archive 1

message: This user likes Vallenato music from Colombia
Me gusta este userbox pero no me convencen ni las letras en rojo, ni el mensaje, el cual es demasiado básico. La falta de puntuación y el hecho de que no es un template también son un problema. Esta es otra versión: 
 Para colocarla hay que escribir solo 
Rosa 05:07, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headline text 

message: I would like to add an Media section. The article of communication on colombia is very incomplete and only shows statistics. We can compilate media outlets from colombia like El Tiempo, Citytv Bogotá, Caracol TV, RCN TV, Caracol Radio... You are invited to help me... Don Quijote's Sancho 06:15, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Media in Colombia 

message: A controversy has erupted over the choice of map for this article. The two candidates are shown here, along with any others that other Wikipedians may choose to enter. Feel free to make any comments. The lower map may also appear in the corresponding Geography article for this country. Kelisi 02:45, 2 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I reduced the pic size of the 2nd map to make the talk page more inteligable and less bandwidth-intensive. El_C 11:20, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: I'm guessing that Colombia (really appreciate the link to Columbia at the top, BTW!) was named for Christopher Columbus.  Why was the 'u' changed to an 'o'?  To match actual pronunciation in some language?  To be distinct from other Columbias?  To cause edit wars on Wikipedia?  :-)
:After some quick researching on wikipedia and elsewhere..."Cristoforo Colombo" was his actual birthname in Italian (from the Italian word for "dove", colombo), and when he became a Spanish citizen/subject he legally changed his name to "Cristóbal Colón", according to several accounts (the equivalents in Catalan and in Portuguese also include the "o"). So it seems that those would be the two most historically accurate names, strictly speaking. But I suppose that, since the name that was used during most of his lifetime probably was the original "Colombo", that's why Colombia adopted the name with that particular spelling. Apparently the spelling of "Columbia", the English word, is not derived from "Colombo" the man directly (note I'm talking about the *spelling*, not the *word* or *person*. Big difference.), but from the Latin term (Columbus) that inspired the Italian word for "dove"...but that was not the actual way it was written in the main languages that the man (and his family, I suppose) spoke: Italian and eventually Spanish (and Catalan/Portuguese, maybe, I don't know that). So it's a matter of preferences, I suppose. ;) Juancarlos2004 04:26, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: I added the SACN template someone took off and also added the Andean community template. Both of these are relevant to the page and I don't understand the argument that they are not supranational unions. Are they as developed as the EU? No. Are they still a supranational union regardless? Yes. -CunningLinguist 05:27, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Supranational Templates 

message: South America is currently nominated to be improved on Wikipedia:This week's improvement drive. You can support the article with your vote.--Fenice 12:14, 17 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improvement Drive 

message: I have no idea what the correct numbers are, but the demographics for religion add up to 113%. 90% cath. 9% pro/LDS/jewish/muslim. 13% irreligious. 1% indiginous.  is this 13% irreligious, then a breakdown by percentage of adherants of various kinds?Jodine Sparks 18:24, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Reply to Anonymous: If there is  a more reliable source of information than DANE you should put it up. The information provided in the article comes from the CIA World Factbook. If you think that this is the same entity that claimed there were WMDs in Iraq then I would certainly take their information with caution. As far as I understand DANE is the only institution that carries out the census in Colombia. CIA doesn't. Therefore DANE is the only authorised source.--tequendamia 03:14, 14 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to complete what I said before. Colombians do not care much about the ethnic distribution of their population. If well Colombians are aware of their ethnic diversity, there is no racial profiling in Colombia. Meaning in Colombia you are not asked what race you are  when you pay your taxes, apply for social security or look for a job, as could be the case in the US and in the Commonwealth countries (British Community).--tequendamia 03:55, 21 October 2005 (UTC)

text: Dear anonymous. Definition of race also depends on the culture, for instance, in the US a blond person who has 10% of African blood is regarded as African. This is not the case in Colombia where a person with 50% white blood is considered as white in certain circles and as mestizo(indian) or mulatto(black) in others. A costeño might appear to be black to many people from Bogota, but the same person would be regarded as white in Chocó. Another example, a person of Arabian descent, or mediterranean descent is regarded as white in Colombia, whereas the same person will never be regarded as white in Europe or the US. See the difference? If what you want to do is to replace the "miscenegation" paragraph for your CIA's fact book stats, let me tell you, that info might make sense in the US white circles, but when you write in Wikipedia you don't write for those "US white circles", you do it for the entire "brown world" which is the mayority--tequendamia 22:04, 27 November 2005 (UTC)

text: I reinserted the two sentences in question, but added a  tag so that somebody can provide a reference for them. (The stats seem pretty much in line both with what my wife has told me, and with what I've seen in various sources online.) The ethnologue reference at the end of the paragraph was only intended to cover the second part of the paragraph, which I added, beginning with the words, "There are 101 languages..." (BTW, the link has a cool map of the geographic areas where each of the 80 living languages of Colombia is actually spoken.) --Ramsey2006 18:45, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographics 

message: The name of Colombia's capital city was changed from Santafe de Bogota to the single word "Bogota" in the year 2000, via a Constitutional amendment (Acto Legislativo No. 1 de 2000).
I believe that no matter what has happened in the past or what is going on now, Colombia has remnained a great country for me. As A Colombian US resident, I can tell you all that going back to Colombia every so often brings back many feelings to me of nostalgia. Even though its been through a lot of trouble in the last century, my country, as I see it, has also many good things and to me is like my home. If you have ever been to Colombia you know what I am talking about, and I guess sometimes all bad things have to be forgotten for a while in order to enjoy all the good things that this country can offer.
VIVA COLOMBIA! :)
Love the way you said it VIVA COLOMBIA but this is an encyclopedia anyone could edit  so wikipedians must write ALL facts from Colombia wheter positive or negative (By the way i'm Colombian) - Elpaisa1 16:31, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Looking at Colombia in a different way 

message: I keep a eye on Colombian articles every now and then, I request to know why the main page of my country has been blocked, and who requested it??? CharlesWiki 22:32, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No worries, you still can edit the article as long as you don't do it anonymously and as long as you are reasonable.--tequendamia 01:10, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why?? 

message: I have started a Wikiproject that involves taking the public domain LOC Country Studies and incorporating them into Wikipedia. Go to the Colombia subpage to participate or observe progress on the Colombia section.--Bkwillwm 01:19, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikiproject Wikiproject LOC Country Studies 

message: I have removed the stub template. Even though this article can be improved, as all the other articles in Wikipedia, it's neither short nor in dire need of expansion. Rosameliamartinez 23:34, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You can add the template in those line where you thing more info is required or that the info is not accurate.--tequendamia 00:31, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

text: F3rn4nd0, since you seem to be so interested in this article, you should consider doing some in-depth research yourself in order to improve it. You'll find that other wikipedians will be glad to help you make Wikipedia a valuable information resource. One last thing, don't forget to sign your posts by putting four consecutive "~" at the end. Rosameliamartinez 15:03, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stub 

message: f3rn4nd0, could you please move all your external links to the appropriate secction? Otherwise you are ruining the style of the article and making it heavy and difficult for the reader.--tequendamia 00:40, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: I've inserted many images into the page as I believe Wikipedia is an image as well as an information source as well as the fact that it makes the article more interesting. I'm not entirely sure that the very first image, :Image:Calendario Axteca.png, fits into the page as it is not from Colombia. Somebody more knowledgable than me, please verify. Also I inserted all the images even though I only signed in half way through, Sorry... Jaw101ie 14:31, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it really necessary to have two 1000-pesos bill photoes in the same article? What about Uribe's photograph? Most Colombians living overseas do not feel proud of having this guy as their president. That photograph should be removed from the article.--tequendamia 03:36, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't matter if anyones feels proud or not about Uribe, the fact is he's the current president and it's relevant to the article if a pic of him is included.Rosa 08:59, 23 April 2006 (UTC)

text: It is the same as to say that the pictures of Hitler and Stalin must be included in the articles about Austria and Russia, just because they were from those countries.--tequendamia 04:12, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say it's not the same; it's different in the fact that Hitler and Stalin are not the current leaders of Austria, Germany, or Russia, but Uribe is the current leader of Colombia.  Thus, it makes sense to have his image up on the current article. -- SmthManly / ManlyTalk / ManlyContribs 04:33, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

text: First, Stalin wasn't from Russia but from Georgia. Second, omitting Hitler and Stalin from Germany or the USSR's articles history section is unconcievable as they played such relevant parts in the political history of those countries. What I'm trying to say ultimately is you MUST put your political views aside in this article of Colombia. No one is praising Uribe by putting a pic of him here. Rosa 08:49, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Castro is somebody, whereas Uribe may end up facing crimes against humanity charges before The Hague or the ICC.--tequendamia 03:25, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That has nothing to do with his picture being up there or not; it being just your opinion after all. -- SmthManly / ManlyTalk / ManlyContribs 03:30, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Please, remember that articles at Wikipedia are supposed to be as objective as possible. Uribe IS someone right now in Colombia, he's the president for crying out loud. Even if you compare him to a dictator (which he is not...in fact the majority of people in Colombia voted for him at democratic elections) his picture deserves to be in this article just for being the current leader of this country.Rosa 08:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

text: By the way, it's curious that you mention Castro as opposite to someone who could face charges of crimes against humanity. There's a lot of controversy surrounding Castro's rule in Cuba, specially his     treatment of political opponents. This is not the issue here though and I don't feel like discussing it.Rosa 08:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: columbia is a beatuifil place except spanish people stink. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.185.80.74 (talk • contribs) 
:: No racist slurs please.  However, I am not removing your comment, as a testament to your lack of civility. Learn how to spell. --CSTAR 17:52, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And aside from that, Colombia is populated by COLOMBIANS, not Spaniards.  Thanks, troll. SmartGuy 19:16, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wow 

message: The main tag leaves everything italised. Skinnyweed 13:19, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Main artcle:..." 

message: how about a new section, with the subtitle 'Multinationals and displacement'
i think the causal link between the two is a clear position worthy of exposition. thoughts? John 137.222.240.9 00:00, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Section proposal: "Political Economy" 

message: Someone might want to check the numbers for the religion demographics... at the moment 114% of the population is accounted for! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.55.210.64 (talk) 
The article currently says, "Another 9% is divided mainly amongst the Protestant, Mormon, Jewish and Muslim religions." According to adherents.com, Mormons, Jews, and Muslims combined make up less than one percent of the population. I'm taking them out of the article. — coelacan talk — 23:13, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion 

message: The section on demographics in Colombia is vague at first and then begins to give random stats. It states that the Native American population in Colombia is 8 percent, when it's more like 1 percent. Anyone who has been to Colombia would know that pure Natives make up a small percentage like from 1-3 percent. Overall the section is very unorganized and should be cleaned up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.225.208.45 (talk) 03:10, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnic Groups in Colombia 

message: The section on demographics in Colombia is vague at first and then begins to give random stats. It states that the Native American population in Colombia is 8 percent, when it's more like 1 percent. Anyone who has been to Colombia would know that pure Natives make up a small percentage like from 1-3 percent. Overall the section is very unorganized and should be cleaned up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.225.208.45 (talk) 03:10, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnic Groups in Colombia 

message: These links:
* Doing Business in Colombia The World Bank Group guide (in Spanish)
* Privatization Database: Colombia
* Infrastructure Projects: Colombia
Were added by an IP address registered to the World Bank Group (doingbusiness.org is a World Bank project). In keeping with our conflict of interest and external links guidelines I've moved it here for consideration by regular editors of this article who are unaffiliated with the organization. -- Siobhan Hansa 21:21, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  World Bank links 

message: "Colombia is also the only country in South America that borders both the Atlantic and the Pacific Ocean."
"Situated on an isthmus, Panama is a transcontinental nation which connects North America and South America. It borders Costa Rica to the northwest, Colombia to the east, the Atlantic Ocean to the north and the Pacific Ocean to the south."
BACK TO SCHOOL WITH YOU, WIKIPEDIA --Burstroc 05:39, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about Panama? 

message: This is just a heads up.  This template " Template:Capital_cities_of_the_caribbean_region_Colombia is up for deletion.  If it is importaint to Colombia make your voice heard else it may be voted off. CaribDigita 00:57, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just a heads up. Template for deletion. 

message: Vandalism on the Colombia article is ridiculous!!! just look at the history. please at least put a semi protection!--((F3rn4nd0 ))(BLA BLA BLA) 02:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You can bring this type of request to Requests for page protection.  Figma 02:40, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can someone please block the article? 

message: "It is also the only country in South America having coasts in the Pacific Ocean and in the Atlantic Ocean." (emphasis mine)
Is "in" the correct word to use here?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by JasonHyman (talk • contribs) 02:41, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question on word choice 

message: according to the last census Amerindians were the 3% of the population, mestizos and white were put together whit the 86% of the population Afrocolombians 10.5% 
http://www.colombiaya.com/seccion-colombia/etnografia.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.136.155.85 (talk) 03:30, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll look into this. CIA and national census might use different ethnic classifications. Meanwhile, please don't revert all edits to the article only to reinstate your ethnic stats. Thanks. Materialscientist (talk) 03:49, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Your link uses data from the last census, which are somewhat old (2005). CIA is nominally updated in 2012, though it is unclear which data (year) they actually use. While I normally prefer census data, here I would stay with CIA because they are better updated and are likely more recent - just my opinion, others are welcome. Materialscientist (talk) 04:02, 14 May 2012 (UTC)

text: It seems in general, wikipedia editors favor census data to CIA, but, have a look at the "Ethnic groups" section, which says "The census data in Colombia does not record ethnicity, other than that of those identifying themselves as members of particular minority ethnic groups, so overall percentages are essentially estimates from other sources and can vary from one to another." Materialscientist (talk) 01:01, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong information about ethnic groups 

message: The main article cites Monsú and Pubenza as archaeological sites that date back 22,000 years ago. If that's true it's the oldest sites of documented human existence in the Americas, yet when you cross reference history of the early Americans on Wikipedia there's no reference to Monsú and Pubenza. Should this section be removed until a verifiable link can be included?  --108.13.146.107 (talk) 06:28, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archaeological sites dating back 20,000 B.C.??? 

message: The following is currently the final sentence of the introduction:
"The United States of America are still the largest consumer of this drug, with a 150 to 160 tons per year."
While this information wouldn't necessarily be out of place in the body of the article, I don't think it's relevant enough for the introduction. It's a bit of an aside, and it's not about Colombia. The introduction should be densely packed with facts about whatever the article pertains to, and, in this case, I feel like this a bit of a distraction. 
Does anyone disagree? If not, I will (or someone else can) remove it. Blinutne (talk) 15:33, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable final sentence in the introduction 

message: someone to work updating Colombia's article in German, please.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koldorogollo (talk • contribs) 05:32, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This is out of place and unnecessary for this talk page. Henrik6532 (talk) 01:18, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  hello 

message: I believe we should add a mention to Trains in the 'Infrastructure' section.  --Forich (talk) 12:16, 30 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Go ahead. Henrik6532 (talk) 01:19, 14 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infrastructure section 

message: On September 24th, 2013,  Charlie Rose interviewed Juan Manuel Santos, President of Colombia.  Santos said that Colombia is extending fiber and internet broadband to all of Colombia's 1200 municipalities, distributing 2 million computers and tablets, and establishing 5,000 digital centers.  
I have been unable to locate specific information on this massive national digital initiative.  This article would be a good place to provide specific, detailed information, i.e. the timetable, specificity about who will be receiving the 2 million computers, and to provide more detail on the timetable and cites of the 5,000 digital centers-- in schools? in government buildings? Both? Frankatca (talk) 00:55, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broadband expansion in Colombia 

message: 186.115.237.116 (talk) 05:46, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done:. Please state what change you propose clearly, in English, with reliable sources if necessary. Thank you. --Stfg (talk) 13:10, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 11 October 2013 cambiar orito putumayo por neiva huila 

message: There was much more information in this article regarding the armed conflict in Colombia, and that information has been deleted. Similar sections have been removed from a number of Colombian department articles. There is a discussion concerning these removals at Talk:Valle del Cauca department#Armed conflict. -- Irn (talk) 19:27, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armed conflict 

message: In Colombia, according to our Constitution, we speak CASTELLANO NOT Spanish. 
CONSTITUCION POLITICA DE COLOMBIA
TITULO I - DE LOS PRINCIPIOS FUNDAMENTALES
ARTICULO 10. El CASTELLANO es el idioma oficial de Colombia. Las lenguas y dialectos de los grupos étnicos son también oficiales en sus territorios. La enseñanza que se imparta en las comunidades con tradiciones lingüísticas propias será bilingüe. 
Spanish is a term used in the United States were the Castellano is mixed with incorrect English translations. 
Our constitution is VERY clear. 
Colombians who state that we speak Spanish need to be enlightened about the correct terminology used by or Constitution.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.28.91.79 (talk) 23:12, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Castellano NO Español. Es inconstitucional decir que hablamos Español 

message: Message sent to Wikipedia
Dear Wikipedia
In Colombia, according to our Constitution, we speak CASTELLANO NOT Spanish.
CONSTITUCION POLITICA DE COLOMBIA
TITULO I - DE LOS PRINCIPIOS FUNDAMENTALES
ARTICULO 10. El CASTELLANO es el idioma oficial de Colombia. Las lenguas y dialectos de los grupos étnicos son también oficiales en sus territorios. La enseñanza que se imparta en las comunidades con tradiciones lingüísticas propias será bilingüe.
Colombians who state that we, Colombians, speak Spanish need to be enlightened about the correct term used by or Constitution.
Message sent to the President of Colombia
Señor Presidente Juan Manuel Santos si la palabra Castellano ha sido reemplazada por la palabra español entonces la constitución tiene un error y nuestra constitucion no debería tener errores.
http://wsp.presidencia.gov.co/Normativa/Documents/Constitucion-Politica-Colombia.pdf  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.28.91.79 (talk) 00:08, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The information has been corrected. Thank you for your help.--Theryx7 (talk) 02:53, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Castellano NO Español. Es inconstitucional decir que hablamos Español 

message: That someone would see the Pacific Ocean is inevitable, and obviously highly relevant for the subsequent history of the world.  But THIS article is about Colombia.  How was Balboa's presence as a stowaway on the 1508 expedition relevant to Colombia?  If there's no supporting text, the statement about the expedition as well as seeing the Pacific Ocean should be stricken from the article.  It smacks of a factoid that someone tossed in as if to say, they know something interesting and want to stick it in somewhere, anywhere.  How about moving it to the Article 'Age of Discovery'?Sbalfour (talk) 15:44, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Balboa saw the Pacific Ocean (and... did what in Colombia?) 

message: Tequendama reference can't be linked (as it formerly was) to the article on Tequendama, because the existing town is NOT the archeological site.  Currently there is no satisfactory article to link it to, so a new page should be created.  The info could be inserted into the article on Al Ebra, and Tequendama linked there, maybe.
There are redlinks to nearly all of the Captaincies (including Portuguese ones in Brazil), simply because there's usually not a whole lot to say about them independent of the historical articles they are embedded in, so separate pages have not been created.  But they should remain as linked, so that when such articles are created (and I'm creating some of them), they will not be orphaned when created, and I won't have to hunt down contexts where they could be linked in, after the page(s) are created.
Sbalfour (talk) 16:17, 7 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tequendama archeological site and Captaincy-General of New Granada 

message: Argentina GDP (PPP) according to the IMF: 747 (22nd worldwide)
Colombia GDP (PPP) according to the IMF: 500 (28th worldwide)
Source: http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2013/02/weodata/weorept.aspx?sy=2010&ey=2018&scsm=1&ssd=1&sic=1&sort=subject&ds=.&br=1&pr1.x=55&pr1.y=1&c=512%2C668%2C914%2C672%2C612%2C946%2C614%2C137%2C311%2C962%2C213%2C674%2C911%2C676%2C193%2C548%2C122%2C556%2C912%2C678%2C313%2C181%2C419%2C867%2C513%2C682%2C316%2C684%2C913%2C273%2C124%2C868%2C339%2C921%2C638%2C948%2C514%2C943%2C218%2C686%2C963%2C688%2C616%2C518%2C223%2C728%2C516%2C558%2C918%2C138%2C748%2C196%2C618%2C278%2C522%2C692%2C622%2C694%2C156%2C142%2C624%2C449%2C626%2C564%2C628%2C565%2C228%2C283%2C924%2C853%2C233%2C288%2C632%2C293%2C636%2C566%2C634%2C964%2C238%2C182%2C662%2C453%2C960%2C968%2C423%2C922%2C935%2C714%2C128%2C862%2C611%2C135%2C321%2C716%2C243%2C456%2C248%2C722%2C469%2C942%2C253%2C718%2C642%2C724%2C643%2C576%2C939%2C936%2C644%2C961%2C819%2C813%2C172%2C199%2C132%2C733%2C646%2C184%2C648%2C524%2C915%2C361%2C134%2C362%2C652%2C364%2C174%2C732%2C328%2C366%2C258%2C734%2C656%2C144%2C654%2C146%2C336%2C463%2C263%2C528%2C268%2C923%2C532%2C738%2C944%2C578%2C176%2C537%2C534%2C742%2C536%2C866%2C429%2C369%2C433%2C744%2C178%2C186%2C436%2C925%2C136%2C869%2C343%2C746%2C158%2C926%2C439%2C466%2C916%2C112%2C664%2C111%2C826%2C298%2C542%2C927%2C967%2C846%2C443%2C299%2C917%2C582%2C544%2C474%2C941%2C754%2C446%2C698%2C666&s=NGDPD%2CPPPGDP&grp=0&a=
Argentina GDP (PPP) according to the World Bank: 716 (21st worldwide)
Colombia GDP (PPP) according to the World Bank: 505 (27th worldwide)
Source:http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.PP.CD/countries/order%3Dwbapi_data_value_2012%20wbapi_data_value%20wbapi_data_value-last?order=wbapi_data_value_2012%20wbapi_data_value%20wbapi_data_value-last&sort=desc&display=default
Argentina GDP (PPP) according to the CIA World Factbook: 755.3 (22nd)
Colombia GDP (PPP) according to the CIA World Factbook: 511.1 (28th)
Source: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2001.html
Argentina GDP (nominal) according to the United Nations, IMF, World Bank, Cia World Factbook: 477,028, 475,211, 474,865, 475,000 (26th worldwide)
Colombia GDP (nominal) according to UN and IMF: 369,813 (32nd) and 369,018 (32nd); according to the World Bank: 369,813 (30th); according to the CIA World Factbook: 366,000 (31st).
Source: http://www.imf.org/external/pubs/ft/weo/2013/02/weodata/weorept.aspx?pr.x=50&pr.y=11&sy=2012&ey=2012&scsm=1&ssd=1&sort=country&ds=.&br=1&c=512%2C668%2C914%2C672%2C612%2C946%2C614%2C137%2C311%2C962%2C213%2C674%2C911%2C676%2C193%2C548%2C122%2C556%2C912%2C678%2C313%2C181%2C419%2C867%2C513%2C682%2C316%2C684%2C913%2C273%2C124%2C868%2C339%2C921%2C638%2C948%2C514%2C943%2C218%2C686%2C963%2C688%2C616%2C518%2C223%2C728%2C516%2C558%2C918%2C138%2C748%2C196%2C618%2C278%2C522%2C692%2C622%2C694%2C156%2C142%2C624%2C449%2C626%2C564%2C628%2C565%2C228%2C283%2C924%2C853%2C233%2C288%2C632%2C293%2C636%2C566%2C634%2C964%2C238%2C182%2C662%2C453%2C960%2C968%2C423%2C922%2C935%2C714%2C128%2C862%2C611%2C135%2C321%2C716%2C243%2C456%2C248%2C722%2C469%2C942%2C253%2C718%2C642%2C724%2C643%2C576%2C939%2C936%2C644%2C961%2C819%2C813%2C172%2C199%2C132%2C733%2C646%2C184%2C648%2C524%2C915%2C361%2C134%2C362%2C652%2C364%2C174%2C732%2C328%2C366%2C258%2C734%2C656%2C144%2C654%2C146%2C336%2C463%2C263%2C528%2C268%2C923%2C532%2C738%2C944%2C578%2C176%2C537%2C534%2C742%2C536%2C866%2C429%2C369%2C433%2C744%2C178%2C186%2C436%2C925%2C136%2C869%2C343%2C746%2C158%2C926%2C439%2C466%2C916%2C112%2C664%2C111%2C826%2C298%2C542%2C927%2C967%2C846%2C443%2C299%2C917%2C582%2C544%2C474%2C941%2C754%2C446%2C698%2C666&s=NGDPD&grp=0&a=http://data.worldbank.org/indicator/NY.GDP.MKTP.CDhttps://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/fields/2195.html
According to all these organisms, Argentina is the third largest economy in Latin America, Colombia has been for a long time and still remains the 4th largest. It should be changed at the beginning of the article. --Luuchoo93 (talk) 18:50, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the text reads "the third largest economy in South America" not Latin America, so it looks like we're all on the same page. (I'm assuming the other economies are Brazil, Mexico, and Argentina.) -- Irn (talk) 22:14, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colombia is NOT the third largest economy in Latin America 

message: I was trying to edit the language section. My mom speaks Spanish and my grandma too! Please add 10% to Spanish.
Florida and N.J. (talk) 00:19, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
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message: My mom speaks Spanish and my grandma too! Add Spanish +10%  
Florida and N.J. (talk) 00:22, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: I'm not quite sure where you want to "add 10%". Anon126 (talk - contribs) 00:54, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
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message: Colombia has been the second largest's economy in South America for a good while, as noted in http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-08-31/colombia-overtakes-argentina-in-size-of-economy-echeverry-says.html. The entry should be updated.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Héctor Fernández L'Hoeste (talk • contribs) 16:08, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size of the economy 

message: The information on the first paragraph regarding borders is wrong. Land borders are correct, but maritime borders are mistaken. Colombia has standing treaties with neighboring caribbean countries where maritime borders are established. 
Colombia is not bordered to the north by the Caribbean Sea, nor to the west by the Pacific Ocean. Wikipedia should specify land and maritime borders; Colombia, for example, has treaties regarding maritime borders with Nicaragua, Honduras, Jamaica, Haiti, Panamá, Ecuador and the Dominican Republic. I will reference these treaties later on, adding links to Colombia's Ministry of Foreign Relations. 
Countries all over the world must not think of the sea as a boundary, but as a means of communication, a vast resource cache, and an integral part of its territory. 
Pabloandresmoro (talk) 01:56, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Borders are wrong 

message: The country's name is spelled Colombia and not Columbia, why is the era called "Pre-Columbian" and not "Pre-Colombian"?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 17.78.133.79 (talk) 12:14, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The term refers to the arrival of Christopher Columbus in the Americas and not the founding of Colombia. -- Irn (talk) 13:52, 15 June 2014 (UTC)

text: I agree.  Take Germany as an example.  The Germans don't call it Germany.  The French don't call it Germany.  The English do.  Columbia may be called Colombia by the Spanish, but it is Columbia by the English.  It should be consistent and should be Columbia and Pre-Columbia.  Again, the English call him Columbus, not Colombus.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.142.48.14 (talk) 13:58, 18 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Pre Columbian" or "Pre Colombian"? 

message: Change the name of Orthodox Catholic Church to Orthodox Church
146.169.53.204 (talk) 21:16, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. All things political or religious probably need a consensus before a change can be made... —  (e • t • c) 22:21, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 24 June 2014 

message: I request that the word Independence in the independence and establishment box in the sidebar on the right be hyperlinked to the Spanish American Wars of Independence since the Republic of Colombia was officially established following the conclusion of the war.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.82.133.168 (talk) 00:46, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Independence on sidebar 

message: In the Wikipedia page List of countries by HDI, there's a discordance between the data provided here about Colombia's HDI qualification. Although the figure is the same, the difference is that it increased 0,003 in the 2014 report, which includes the data of 2013 (when compared to the last report). However, here it says that it decreased.  Also, the qualification appears here as: "Medium", while on the HDI page appears as: "High". In the Spanish version of the Colombia article, it appears as high with this same figure and the green arrow. I'm not sure where's the mistake, but it must be corrected.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.28.192.251 (talk) 01:25, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  HDI - Medium? 

message: It appears that LASIK was not invented in Colombia since any Colombian has a patent related to the procedure. Is it true?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LASIK#History Gcastellanos (talk) 17:41, 25 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  LASIK 

message: Wikipedia is not an image repository. A gallery is not a tool to shoehorn images into an article, and a gallery consisting of an indiscriminate collection of images of the article subject should generally either be improved in accordance with the above paragraph or moved to Wikimedia Commons.  --ControlCorV (talk) 01:18, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I restored information about war. Do not edit arbitrarily, it can be considered an act of vandalism.--Roboting (talk) 02:04, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no vandalism, we are editing together so that the information is correct. --ControlCorV (talk) 04:59, 10 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Articles about countries are not a repository of images. 

message: Remove https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Marchando_por_la_libertad_en_Colombia.jpg. It displays bias, read the description, and is "artistic", not encyclopaedic.
Aangulo1985 (talk) 21:59, 15 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The caption on this article does not seem biased - just says these were Colombian citizens demonstrating against FARC and ELN. While I agree a purely black/white or colored image might be better, I see no reason there shouldn't be an image for something that was/is clearly a major concern  Cannolis (talk) 20:59, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
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message: Referring to Colombia's HDI placement led me to further look into its placement, which seemed unusually high. A quick check with the HDI database shows their proper ranking at .711, a tier lower than highest. While not an imperative change, it's certainly misleading when their current placement on HDI is showing above that of AUS, US, and other 90th percentile nations.
It's the second reference to Colombia in this report (not the movement from 2013 index, the second, ranked reference).
BeetsBearsBattlestarGalactica (talk) 03:05, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Confirming Everymorning. There's nothing to do here an no clear request. All info in article about HDI is correct per source. EvergreenFir (talk) Please  03:45, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2015 : HDI mistake 

message: :You made a edit to hide a visual infobox/navbox and gave no real reason for the edit. 
:All you stated was "that doesn't happen in the featured article about Germany, so I think that the statement is false."-- but even if Germany was a precedent for Colombia and all other articles about countries, WP:Ignore all precedent would apply, because you have no outside reason to follow such precedent. 
:We should instead "ignore precedent if it prevents you from making constructive edits." tahc chat 17:38, 16 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The reality is that I believe that the way in which that section is edited in the article about Colombia is more organized. --ControlCorV (talk) 18:46, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia is and should be organized for the benifit of readers, not for the benifit of editors. People need to see the infobox in order to know it is there. tahc chat 19:10, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  A visual navbox should also be a visible navbox; otherwise it is a useless navbox. 

message: Please change this passage:
"The government of Colombia takes place within the framework of a presidential representative democratic republic as established in the Constitution of 1991"
This is technically incorrect. It should state: "Participatory democracy" if one takes into account the text of the constitution, and the judicial doctrine that has been developed by the three high courts in Colombia. For instance article one of the constitution states:
"Colombia is a social state under the rule of law, organized in the form of a unitary republic, decentralized, with autonomy of its territorial units, democratic,participatory, and pluralistic, based on the respect of human dignity, the work and solidarity of the individuals who belong to it, and the prevalence of the general interest"
It is also backed by a variety of judicial mechanism that provide for autonomous popular initiatives such as:
"A group of citizens corresponding to one-tenth (1/10) of the electoral rolls may
request from the electoral organization the holding of a referendum for the repeal of a law.This law will be repealed if half plus one of the voters who participate in the referendum so decide as long as a quarter (1/4) of the citizens making up the electoral rolls participate in said referendum.There can be no referendum with respect to laws approving international treaties or the budget or laws relating to fiscal or tax matters."''
The Colombian Constitutional Court has declared:
"La democracia participativa es, sin lugar a dudas, un aspecto estructural e inescindible del Estado Constitucional establecido en la Constitución de 1991."
(Participative democracy is, without a doubt, a structural and fundamental aspect of the Constitutional State established by the 1991 Constitution).Sentencia C-303/10  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.156.78.66 (talk) 18:17, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a representative democracy but a participative democracy. 

message: When our most representative writer Garcia Marquez created Macondo, he introduced fiction to reality or maybe the opposite ? In Colombia culture that is a daily routine that for Colombian people is not amazing at all. News from radio or newspapers are a useful source to create fiction based on real facts. Originality from Colombia people for example it is found in discovering a A submarine sailing in the heart of the Cordillera de los Andes, Bogotá , used to camouflage and prepare a drug shipment. But as positive as celebrating Christmas since September, or having a full calendar of carnavals. 
It is true that this particular feature of our Culture made our population as unique, dynamic and happy as Coronel Aureliano Buendia and his legnedary family.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amandita29 (talk • contribs) 21:30, 6 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: The Magical Realism

message: HUMAN QUALITY
Colombian people through the years have been characterized as friendly and happy. Although, there have been many facts that tried to harm this beautiful image like violence, corruption and intolerance, they have persisted and tried to overcome problems because they are persistant and brave people. They are able to receive any visitor of a hospitable manner because they are not mean or they just want you feel at home. There are many critics to Colombian people, sometimes they are unfair because it is necessary to stay at this country to feel what is Colombia. 
Jorge.lievano94 (talk) 17:10, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: This does not seem to adhere to WP:NPOV --allthefoxes (Talk)  19:27, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 28 January 2016 

message: HUMAN QUALITY
Colombian people through the years have been characterized as friendly and happy. Although, there have been many facts that tried to harm this beautiful image like violence, corruption and intolerance, they have persisted and tried to overcome problems because they are persistant and brave people. They are able to receive any visitor of a hospitable manner because they are not mean or they just want you feel at home. There are many critics to Colombian people, sometimes they are unfair because it is necessary to stay at this country to feel what is Colombia. 
Jorge.lievano94 (talk) 17:11, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: This does not seem to adhere to WP:NPOV. In addition, you must have sources for what you want to put in --allthefoxes (Talk)  19:28, 28 January 2016 (UTC)
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message: Just wondering if it's worthwhile to mention about the US and the Chinese support for the peace process also?http://www.wsj.com/articles/biden-says-u-s-supports-peace-effort-in-colombia-1403134566http://www.elespectador.com/noticias/paz/china-donara-ocho-millones-de-dolares-el-posconflicto-articulo-561918
Dirtyleftist (talk) 13:25, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the article is about Colombia, I don't think that's necessary. What do you think it would add to the article? -- Irn (talk) 17:27, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent history 

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message: Please change:
"In 1858 New Granada officially changed its name to the Granadine Confederation, then in 1863 the United States of Colombia, before finally adopting its present name – the Republic of Colombia – in 1886."
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replies: text: , valid points. Tisquesusa (talk) 06:41, 25 June 2016 (UTC)
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message: I would just like to suggest that this article is in desperate need of some significant line and copy editing. Syntax, grammar, and punctuation are all in a rather poor state. Additionally, numerous paragraphs have what appear to be politically-motivated statements dropped into them in a random fashion, disrupting the orderly presentation of material. I have in the past had some extremely negative experiences when attempting to edit Wikipedia articles, so I decline to undertake the process myself. I have no desire to get into another editing war. But someone needs to edit this article so that it reads with authority, and not as though it were written by an elementary school student. Just a suggestion ... do with it as you wish. PhD Historian (talk) 09:32, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to edit the article. If there are spelling or grammatical errors you can correct them with peace of mind. It is advisable to use good bibliographic sources.--ControlCorV (talk) 15:17, 7 September 2016 (UTC)
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