Talk:Scottish Conservatives

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Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party → Scottish Conservative Party — the party hardly ever uses the Unionist in its title and makes no mention of it on its website  [Barry O'Brien  entretien 05:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
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# Support --Barry O'Brien  entretien 05:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

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*AFAIAA their candidates use the full, legal title - "Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party" - on ballot papers, which is a fairly fundamental location: all their representatives are thus elected under that banner. Can anyone confirm/disprove/shed further light on usage on ballot papers? Is this now discontinued? When and why? What are candidates using on 3 May? --Mais oui! 07:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Im not sure if they dropped it when Dave was rebranding them as a nice party but there seems to be no mention of the title on either the Scottish or the British websites and they are always referred to as the Scottish Tories in the press and the British party is at its most common name rather than its offical one (Conservative and Unionist Party) --Barry O'Brien  entretien 13:55, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

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This article has been renamed  as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 08:43, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
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# Support --Barry O'Brien  entretien 05:16, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
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*AFAIAA their candidates use the full, legal title - "Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party" - on ballot papers, which is a fairly fundamental location: all their representatives are thus elected under that banner. Can anyone confirm/disprove/shed further light on usage on ballot papers? Is this now discontinued? When and why? What are candidates using on 3 May? --Mais oui! 07:35, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Im not sure if they dropped it when Dave was rebranding them as a nice party but there seems to be no mention of the title on either the Scottish or the British websites and they are always referred to as the Scottish Tories in the press and the British party is at its most common name rather than its offical one (Conservative and Unionist Party) --Barry O'Brien  entretien 13:55, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

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This article has been renamed  as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 08:43, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
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message: * "Murdo Fraser may abolish the Conservative party in Scotland as part of an attempt to make the Tory brand less toxic north of the border. The Conservative party is facing abolition in Scotland after decades of defeat at the ballot box. Murdo Fraser, the Tory deputy leader north of the border, has vowed to wind up the party if he wins its forthcoming leadership contest. In its place, a new party allied to David Cameron and committed to saving the union with England would try to win over centre-right voters who consider the Tory brand toxic. Close allies of the prime minister, including Francis Maude, are said to be supportive of the radical idea after a string of electoral disasters led them to believe the party’s reputation was damaged beyond repair. Other senior figures, including Liam Fox, are expected to oppose the plan, which would have to be endorsed by Conservative Central Office if Fraser emerges as the new Scottish Tory leader on November 4... Fraser, who launches his campaign tomorrow, said: “If I am elected as leader of the party, I will turn it into a new and stronger party for Scotland. A new party, a winning party with new supporters from all walks of life. A new belief in devolution, a new approach to policy-making, a new name.” Names under consideration include Scottish Reform, Scottish Unionists and the Scottish Progressives, which would be put to the party’s membership if Fraser wins. Supporters believe the new party, which would have headquarters in Scotland and support withdrawal from the common fisheries policy and greater decentralisation of power, would draw support from wealthy business figures. A source close to Fraser added: “There is no point in electing another leader of the Scottish Conservative and Unionist Party. We don’t need a new captain on the bridge of the Titanic. What we need is for the ship not to sink.”"
Jason Allardyce, The Sunday Times, 4 September 2011
--Mais oui! (talk) 05:29, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sunday Times article: "‘Toxic’ Scottish Tory party faces abolition" 

message: The entire "consequences of merger" section is completely unsourced, and includes some factual claims (e.g "With the Daily Record newspaper switching from the Unionists to Labour" [citation needed]) and some subjective assessments (e.g "Combined with the new name, this helped switch previous Unionist voters to the Labour party" [citation needed]).  
I can't find any support at all for most of this section. If sources are not provided within the next few days, I will delete it.  Does anyone have references for any of this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Major Matrix (talk • contribs) 16:21, 10 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Consequences of Merger" section 

message: The entire history of an entire political section of Scottish society over more than a century has been radically falsified.
Several rival political parties that existed in the 19th and 20th centuries have been literally wiped out of existence in a majpr rewrite of this article and anachoinistically replaced by a party which only began to exist in 1955.
The tables USED TO SHOW THE ACTUAL PARTIES THAT EXISTED, and how many seats each gained. All of this has been rewritten with their various seats-gained totalled and attributed to a party THAT DID NOT EXIST
This is utterly outrageous.  There is no possible excuse for this very very misleading change.
It materially falsifies Scotland's history in an astoundingly gross way.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.144.186.42 (talk) 19:17, 12 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  HUGE FALSFIFICATION OF HISTORY  

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message: The user @HoopaRoopa has modified the political position of the Scottish Conservatives from "centre-right" to "centre-right to right-wing", providing half a dozen citations for them being a right-wing party. However, all the citations are for the UK party rather than the Scottish Conservative Party. While the Scottish Conservatives are a part of the UK Conservative Party, the two are not identical. I think that if the political position is modified to list them as right-wing, it should be using sources that refer specifically to the Scottish Conservatives. Horarum (talk) 12:00, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Recent changes to this page make your point moot, recognising that there is no such entity as Scottish Conservative Party, with or without the Unionist tag. Please check the electoral commission website for clarification, Scottish Conservative is a description registered to the Conservative Party Soosider3 (talk) 19:30, 15 February 2024 (UTC)
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