Talk:Heathenry in the United States/Archive 1

message: Asatru is mentioned as "often linked with" Neo-Nazism on Nazi mysticism. These allegations should be mentioned here, and either be substantiated or debunked. dab (ᛏ) 12:57, 15 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Nazis

message: I have done some research about the dormancy of this faith. One of the sources is an excellent recently published book written by the Swedish folklore scholar Ebbe Schön (Asa-Tors hammare). It appears that the faith was only marginalized and that Swedish farmers continued to talk about Thor, Odin, Frey, Freya and Balder into the 20th century. I know from my own district that farmers in the 20th century had oral traditions about how to perform a blot ritual (see Trollkyrka). Would it then be correct to say that Christianity forced it into dormancy? Marginalized seems to be a better term.--Wiglaf 21:31, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Dormancy

message: This article contains a combination of US and UK spelling (for example, "honour" but "organization"). One or the other should be chosen and applied consistently. — Ливай | ☺ 06:17, 14 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's worth noting that not only is organization an accepted spelling in the United Kingdom, but (IIRC) it's actually the spelling that comes first in the Oxford English Dictionary, which prefers -ize to -ise. Binabik80 04:17, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: US/UK Spelling

message: nobody seems to be looking after this article, and it is deteriorating.
maybe it should have a cleanup tag. It is a hodge-podge reflecting the use of the term in general. It seems to equate Asatru with Germanic paganism, while it should be about Neo-paganism exclusively, and make clear the separation between the different kinds. Afaik, the Icelandic Asatru do not want to be associated with other groups using the name, and many Neo-pagan groups shun the term Asatru, because of the esoteric mish-mash that went under the name in the USA. This article should focus on detailing these controversies, and plotting their history, and cleanly list the various groups, rather than rambling about ancient Germanic traditions. 'Asatru' is late 19th century coinage, and therefore we should focus on 19th-20th century developments here. dab (ᛏ) 13:14, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: cleanup

message: There is some discussion & debate over this at Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Old Norse/Old Icelandic/Old English), but in general, I was under the impression that the article titles should always use the standard 26-letter English alphabet (plus numbers, where appropriate), as opposed to any accents, graves, or other diacritical marks. (See Wikipedia:Naming conventions.) Personally, I know next to nothing of Norse spellings or romanizations; I write primarily Japan-related entries. Still, see Kyoto rather than Kyōto, and Tokyo as opposed to Tōkyō. LordAmeth 00:51, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-standard characters 

message: I've tried some disambiguation of the term, but I'm running out of time now. 
This article should only deal with Icelandic Ásatrú, and refer to other organizations self-describing as Ásatrú. Afaik, the Icelanders are quite unhappy that USians often use Ásatrú as a generic term for Germanic paganism. Material relating to historical Germanic paganism should go on Germanic paganism. Material on Germanic Neopaganism should go on Forn Sed  (Germanic Neopaganism), information about particular organizations on their own articles, such as Odinic Rite. Ásatrú and Odinic Rite are not synonyms; one is an Icelandic organization, and the other a British organization (with chapters abroad). Germanic Neopaganism needs its own, generic article. dab (ᛏ) 13:28, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: disambiguation