Talk:Death Wish (novel)

message: Since the movies revolves around the one character, the article for the movie covers all of the activities of the guy.  Therefor, no article for Paul Kersey required.  Also, there is a musician on the band Max Webster with the name  Paul Kersey and an actor born 10 February 1970 in Ada, Minnesota.   18:47, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with [[Paul Kersey]] into [[Death Wish]]

message: Brian Garfield wrote the original novel Death Wish, but disagreed with the film. So he wrote a sequel novel exploring his ideas further.
I will say that a great idea someday if they ever try to do a Death Wish remake is to combine the first novel and the sequel novel together. The original novel Death Wish was more about mood and atmosphere...which are of course had to convey on film. Not much plot and action in the first novel (he kills his first victim on page 130 out 180 pages), so that is why the film was made as it was. 
The sequel novel had more action and a somewhat more complicated plot, but it also continued Garfield's ideas about ways to reform the legal system and why taking the law into one's own hands causes problems. Kersey also interacts more with people who have strong opinions about the vigilante's actions, something not in the first novel or really in the films, and as a result, gains an alternative view on things. In the end, Benjamin the vigilante renounces his outlaw ways. This gives the story a sense of a person going through an event and maturing because of what he has learned and seen. 
Victims of Paul Benjamin
The first victim in the first novel was Thomas Leroy Marston, 24. Two weeks before his death he had served 42 months for grand larceny.
Page 154 notes that five had been killed, two of them seventeen year old boys. George Lambert, 22, was killed while stealing a tv.
Page 22 of Death Sentence notes that over five weeks in New York he killed 17 people.
In Chicago he slew:
Circa Dec 16-17 Edward A. Smith and Leroy Thompson
Dec 18-19 Ernest and Julio Delgado
James Washington
On page 55 and 69 it is noted that he slew Joseph Crubb and two unnamed men.
Orson Pyne on page 69 killed Richard Hicks and John R. Davis 
Page 76 Orson Pyne slays William O. Newton
P.111 Orson Pyne slays two youths, Benjamin slays a machete wielder.
P.116 Pyne double homicide
P.164 Pyne slays Peter Whitmore by accident (intended victims survive)
P.184 Pyne kills a drug dealer and an addict
P.185 23 shot in Chicago, 
11 shot by Benjamin
12 shot by Pyne
Benjamin also shot, but did not slay, a group of boys attacking girls.
Benjamin of course slays Orson Pyne.
Benjamin is 47 at the time of Death Wish
Pyne is 47 at the time of Death Sentence
Carol was about 23 at the time of Death Wish.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Enda80 (talk • contribs) 22:47, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Further details on the novels

message: I've moved the information about the films to their own articles:
*Death Wish (film)
*Death Wish II
*Death Wish 3
*Death Wish 4: The Crackdown
*Death Wish V: The Face of Death
This article can therefore be about the novel. Count de Ville 04:16, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Films

message: In 1967, author Adobe James published "Tomorrow and Tomorrow", a short story which appears to anticipate Death Wish. A man named Paul Bosigian turns vigilante to avenge the rape/murder of his wife and daughter by taking to the streets and killing muggers. The story was later included in a 1975 Alfred Hitchcock anthology, Stories to be Read with the Door Locked. The only difference is that Bosigian's tactic is to disguise himself as an old woman, and uses a sword (not a gun) concealed inside a walking stick. Has Brian Garfield ever commented on whether this story influenced his novel?--Muzilon (talk) 23:34, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Similar story published in 1967 

message: In the list of characters, we have this:
"Lieutenant Malcolm Briggs – Detective who is under investigation on the home invasion of Paul's family."
Is Briggs being investigated in connection with the home invasion, or, is he investigating the home invasion?  It sounds odd that a policeman would be under investigation, that is, he is being investigated, unless that is indeed part of the plot.  Best regardsTheBaron0530 (talk) 00:14, 20 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lt. Briggs - is he "under investigation" or is he doing the investigating?