Talk:Glossary of British ordnance terms

message: I read that "quick firing" always meant gun fitted with on carriage recoil buffer and springs, so that the gun didn't need to be re-aimed after firing ? But the definition on the page would suggest that it refers just to the use of semi-fixed and fixed ammunition. The source that I am reading is not very definitive (Osprey British Artillery 1914-19). Does someone have a better source that says more "officially" what the exact definition is? Megapixie (talk) 06:13, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The original, and "general" meaning of the Term "Quick Firing" indeed served to identify modern artillery with proper recoil systems, which removed the need to relay the gun between rounds and hence increased the rate of fire. This page, as the title suggests, refers to official British usage of ordnance terms. In British use, most modern Quick Firing guns used brass cartridge cases to load the charge, and because the cartridge case sealed the breech, removing this duty from the breech, new faster-operating breech mechanisms became possible. British ordnance terminology then took on the term QF to describe any breech which used the cartridge case to seal it : to provide obturation. Breeches which used bag charges rather than cartridge cases still needed to provide the obturation themselves, usually via a "mushroom" and interrupted screw. These breeches continued to be labelled BL. Hence in British use, QF does not really mean Quick Firing, it is just a term - some BL guns are operated at high rates of fire by trained crews.
Source : Ian Hogg, Britain Artillery Weapons & Ammunition 1914-1918. (& any other serious author). Rcbutcher (talk) 08:41, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: QF?

message: The article is wrongly titled.  In UK terminology Ordnance means the barrel assembly (ie barrel, jacket etc, breech (complete), muzzlebrake, fume extractor).  It does not include ammunition.  Look at any UK Gun Handbook or Range/Firing Table, they always name the gun in terms of its ordnance and carriage or mounting.
There's several ordnance specific terms missing. Nfe (talk) 10:55, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Ordnance

message: First entry says:
   "Between decks : applies to a naval gun mounting in which part of the rotating mass is below the deck, and part of it is above the deck. This allows for a lower profile of turret, meaning that turrets need not be superfiring (i.e. they can be mounted on the same deck and not obstruct each other at high angles of elevation.)"
I'm having trouble making sense of this...most large turrets have part of their rotating mass below decks, or contained in the casemate in the case of a superfiring gun. And a turret that does have it's compartment fully above deck couldn't be lowered much without interfering with the elevation arc of the guns. Is this mostly talking about smaller caliber guns, like you'd see on an old destroyer, which have quite a bit of "turret" and not much gun? I could see in that case, "sinking" one turret a bit into the deck, so as to avoid perching the second way up on a casemate. I just can't really imagine it working for big-gun turrets (and btw, are we actually talking about turrets here, or gunhouses? Just to be specific. Most ships actually have gun-houses mounted on turrets, afaik)..45Colt 03:33, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Between decks? 

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