Talk:Maudslay State Park

message: On the history of the park, here is what the Harvard site says:
"The former Fredrick Moseley Estate was located in Newburyport, Masschusetts. Maudesleigh, as it was originally called (later it was known as Maudslay), was created on top of an existing agricultural landscape. A few of the approximately 30 structures on the property remain from the early nineteenth century. The principal architect of most of the buildings was William G. Rantoul of the Boston firm Jacques and Rantoul. He designed the 72-room main house (demolished in 1955) as well as houses for the coachman, forester, and head gardener, and several outbuildings including those in the garden complex. Most of the architectural work was done between 1895-1910. The landscape architect was Martha Brookes Hutcheson, one of the first three woman members of the American Society of Landscape Architects. She was responsible for designing the grounds around the main house, entry drive, and formal gardens (work done 1904-1906). Lord and Burnham designed some of the greenhouses, with William Rantoul responsible for at least one greenhouse and possibly the head house. A second large house was built between 1939 and 1941 for Helen Moseley, the unmarried daughter of Frederick and Helen Moseley. This house was destroyed by fire in 1978. At its peak, the property had a staff of about 40 and an extensive horticultural operation. There were three greenhouses, a head house, several types of cold frames, espaliered fruit trees, a large winter plant house, a two-acre formal vegetable and cutting garden, a 500 foot perennial border, an Italian garden, rose garden, and collection of rhododendrons, azaleas, and specimen trees in addition to the laurels naturally occurring on the estate. After the main house was demolished and Helen Moseley's house burned, the landscape received considerably less intensive management, although the family retained a crew to do mowing. The property was acquired in 1985 by the Massachusetts Department of Environmental Management (DEM) and became Maudslay State Park."
Our material uses much of this word for word without attribution. As none of the editors knew enough to put in references I tend to think this plagiarism is inadvertent. FYI, editors, you can't ethically do this. Whether you can do it legally I suppose depends on the date of the Harvard material. WP policy is to attribute even material for which the copyright has expired, such as the 1911 Britannica. I personally wish you would not do this; it diminishes the value of WP and of the Internet in general. Also, it sets a very bad example for our students, professors and chairmen of the boards. They might think it is perfectly OK to lift material off the Internet for that speech they did not have time or resourcefulness to write. We have to protect our managers and educators. They need our guidance and this is not the way to do it. Over the next few weeks I will be altering this. Strictly speaking you can't do that either, but I intend to quote and attribute. I just need time to do it.Dave (talk) 13:54, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Plagiarism - inadvertent?

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