Talk:Highway revolt

message: Missing image: The first sentence in the section about San Francisco refers to an image that I don't see included in the article. Perhaps it was intended to be an image similar to the one at http://www.mistersf.com/notorious/notfreeway.htm, which shows the extent of the madness planned for San Francisco, but with little detail. Does anybody know what happened to the image? MikZ 20:43, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I-70 is not the only freeway to end (ironically?) at a park and ride--look at I-95 at northern I-495 near DC.  Also see Boston --Jason McHuff 04:21, 15 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Also, where did Six freeway routes were proposed. Four of the six were eventually constructed in Portland come from?  It contridicts the later listing of three proposed (the Rose City Freeway, the Interstate 505 freeway, and the Mount Hood Freeway) and the plan map which lists more (see Highway to Hell link).  And Milwaukee does have a lot of unbuilt freeways. Lastly, the only real diff between Salem Parkway and I-305 is a lack of interchanges --Jason McHuff 05:12, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestions

message: Nothing about freeway revolts in Los Angeles? There were major freeway revolts in the 1960s and 1970s which were successful in preventing the Beverly Hills Freeway and Laurel Canyon Freeway to be built (something most residents of Los Angeles' Westside should be thankful for) and which limited the construction of the Marina Freeway.
* Go ahead and add it!  The Long Beach Freeway in Pasadena probably should be added to the list as well.  I'm not familiar with the LA area, so I'll let someone else add this to the article.  --EngineerScotty 18:38, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Los Angeles 

message: Does the Vieux Carré Riverfront Expressway qualify for this article?
J. Crocker 00:38, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, assuming it was derailed because of opposition rather than apathy or budget dml 08:32, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article says it was canceled due to "large amounts of local opposition". --NE2 10:31, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vieux Carre 

message: Can anyone direct me where to learn if Eureka or Arcata in California experienced similar revolt?  I think Arcata did but Eureka just ran out of money....  Thanks!--al95521 00:05, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you live in the area, the public library is probably the best place to start; the next alternative would be the morgue (i.e., archives department) of any local newspaper. MrRedwood 05:59, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arcata 

message: I think this warrants a much better treatment than a miscellaneous listing of canceled freeway projects. I recall reading somewhere that it was one of the sparks of the emergence of neighborhood protection organizations. At least the Haight Ashbury Neighborhood Council believes it played a leading role in the revolution in San Francisco. This has to be one of the more interesting shifts from post-War complacency towards the activism of the 60s and 70s. I think it would be good to see at least three articles; one on San Francisco's local battle, another on how it fits into cultural changes in the nation at the time, and a final one taking the place of this one, listing those movements that don't otherwise warrant individual treatment.
There should, in theory, be a wealth of public-domain images for these since they were government projects. The Army Corps of Engineers should have an archive, and I suspect the Francisco Public Library would have some, but I couldn't find any in a quickie search. MrRedwood 03:58, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Changing  to  since I think you're after a map rather than a diagram, right? pfctdayelise (talk) 16:05, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: California and New York should get their own lists. I've got an empty New York list in my sandbox, that I'll be working on in 2010. ----DanTD (talk) 16:04, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big story -- should be split 

message: The following were mentioned in the discussion of the Federal Highway Act of 1970:
*I-220 around Shreveport
*I-70N through Gwynns Falls Park in Baltimore
*I-78, Lower Manhattan Expressway and Cross-Brooklyn Expressway in New York City
*I-478, Lower Manhattan Expressway in New York City
*I-90 across Lake Washington in Seattle
*I-290 in Shaker Heights, Ohio
*I-291 northwest of Hartford
*I-93 through Franconia Notch
*I-93 in Vermont
*I-494, Crosstown Expressway in Chicago
*I-95 in Boston
*I-95 near Fort McHenry in Baltimore
*I-695, Inner Belt in Boston
*I-695, Cobbs Creek Expressway in Philadelphia
*I-895 in Massachusetts and Rhode Island
*Many freeways in D.C.
--NE2 02:26, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Interstates with problems (1970)

message: I've noticed that this article lacks mention of the only major freeway to be completely stopped in the Houston area: the Harrisburg Freeway, which was a proposed section of Texas State Highway 225 extending into downtown Houston, which was stopped because of neighborhood opposition. -MBK004 14:26, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A Texas chapter could and should be started for this article. And from what I've read, this isn't the only road to be stopped in the Houston Area. ----DanTD (talk) 15:22, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Here you go; Houston's Cancelled Freeways. There's plenty more in other sections of that website. ----DanTD (talk) 13:09, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harrisburg Freeway? 

message: Although the article is currently limited to North American road schemes, opposition to urban roadbuilding was a global phenomenon in the 60s and 70s and some reference to this would be appropriate, if only by means of a list of See Also links. An example would be the design, partial construction and eventual abandonment of the London Motorway Box, and there are many others I know about even within the UK. --80.176.142.11 (talk) 09:55, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  International Dimension 

message: Why is there somebody trying to merge the Florida list here? We already agree that the existing list is too big as it is, and should be split into specific states. ----DanTD (talk) 22:58, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who's merging Florida? 

message: This article is way too long and trying to accomplish way too many things. My suggestion would be to rewrite the article to focus on just the phenomenon and the lasting effects of the revolts. Most of these by-city/state sections should be spun out to the affected highways' articles. Citizens to Preserve Overton Park v. Volpe isn't even mentioned in the article, yet it was a crucial development in the revolt in Memphis, TN. Some of the details for cities or states could be spun out into separate articles or included in articles on that city's roads and freeways. In short, most of this article's specifics can just be tossed out of here. Imzadi 1979 → 02:55, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree 100%, which is why I spoke out against merging the one for Florida with this one, and even reveresed previous attempts to do so. ----DanTD (talk) 06:15, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  A rewrite is needed 

message: :"1965, the MTO had completed construction of Highway 401 from the south end of Windsor, to the Quebec border."
Almost, but not quite. Highway 401 was complete in 1964 with the exception of one section bypassing the 1000 Islands Parkway, which was opened in 1968. The article on 401 has a map with the completion date of each segment. 66.102.83.61 (talk) 05:48, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  401 (Windsor) 

message: I hold the original archival material from the two groups (perhaps the only two) that coordinated national highway battles in the 1970's and into the 1980's:
1.  The Highway Action Coalition (HAC) correspondence files that contain letters from many highway battles active in the early 1970's.  HAC was instrumental in the 1973 Highway Act that contained the first tradein provisions.
2.  Continued Action on Transportation -U.S. (CONTACT-US) files.  These continue letters and project articles from individuals mostly from the latter 1970's.  CONTACT-US was an outgrowth from the battle against I-66 in Arlington (next to DC) that was organized under CONTACT.  CONTACT-US also published a "Cookbook" that summarized all the projects in the files, and it exists in hardcopy in my files.
I am looking for anyone who would participate in scanning these files to the web.  Please contact me if there is any interest in access to these materials.  They are located in Troy, NY.
InTroyNY (talk) 15:15, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archival material on Highway Revolt 

message: OK, I see this:
"Additionally, Moravia Road was never built beyond I-95 exit 60; it was supposed to be connected to the Windlass Freeway (MD-149), which was canceled as well. A small portion of the Windlass Freeway was constructed, and it is now signed as I-695."
But when I click on MD 149, the only information I find is about Ebenezer Road, which is still driveable.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.47 (talk) 17:15, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  what's this about MD 149 

message: I'm not a regular contributor to Wikipedia anymore, but since someone has tagged this article as being too long to navigate comfortably, then why not make the entire section on the United States into its own article? That entire section is long enough to merit having its own article. This allows anyone trying to read the rest of the content on the article to feel more comfortable. The UK section is already on its own page so this would make some sense. Devrit 01:59, 26 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. I intend to do it, day after tomorrow, unless someone objects before then. Jim.henderson (talk) 20:37, 26 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I said that without expecting to be so tired from bicycling on a suburban highway in the daytime, and so busy observing the lunar eclipse in the inner city at night.  Also I didn't consider what the name should be for this branch of conservative politics.  Highway revolts in the United States is perhaps the most obvious but some might prefer "freeway" and "resistance" or other words. Any opinions or suggestions? Jim.henderson (talk) 11:55, 28 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split off US freeway revolts into its own page