Talk:Pente

message: Is it really correct to say that Pente is a "simplification of Renju"? It seems that Renju lacks the possibility of capturing opponent's stones. --AxelBoldt
The article doesn't say that Pente is a simplification of renju. Ninuki-renju isn't renju. --Zundark, 2001 Dec 3
What is the difference between pente and ninuki-renju? Shouldn't we have an article on ninuki-renju or renju? -- SJK
The difference between Pente and ninuki-renju is explained in one of the external web-pages linked in the article. --Zundark, 2001 Dec 4
:Which one, and why couldn't it also be clarified in the Wikipedia text?  Surely a one-sentence mention of the actual difference wouldn't be too much to ask for... JC 09:27, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, I see.  There's really only one that talks about it.  I think Ninuki-renju should have its own section here, to talk a bit more about it...  I am not much of an expert, though, and I wouldn't necessarily trust just one source (as it seems there are various Pente rules to begin with, considering differences of how to begin play and so on).  Anyone have enough experience with Ninuki-renji to discuss it?  If not, I might just have to do some research myself and spend some time actually working on it :) JC 09:35, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While you're at it, you mind as well check up the differences between Gomoku and Connect6 along with those named above and edit respective articles. 70.111.251.203 21:30, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears just by looking at the articles that there's a huge difference between the two.  Gomoku is like Pente, only without capturing, it seems... Connect6 has each player making two moves each turn (they get to play two stones for their turn) except for Black's first turn (where they only get one), and the goal is to get six in a row instead of only five... -JC 14:00, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pente vs. Renju vs. Ninuki-Renju 

message: "The community has apparently not found a generic term that applies only to games with these rules."
Pente does have another name: Quinta.  This name was used by a shareware implementation (probably one of many) many years ago, but I don't know the status of the name. -- Smjg 19:56, 14 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another name 

message: The version I've always played had anywhere from the traditional two players to five or six, using various colored glass pieces... Is that a niche version, or does the current article just leave it out? Cursed Pretzel
I play that version too! normally 3 or 4 player and its much harder that way, 
the version i play is to capture you must bracket 2 stones of the same colour with 2 of your own
often this game ends with 5 captures rather than a pente
Dasy2k1  —Preceding undated comment was added at 05:43, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  More than two players 

message: I have a Pente game that has the copywrite.... Gabrel 1977 @ Pente Games Co. I don't remember when I got it but it must have been from around that time in Tulsa. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mcsoares (talk • contribs) 03:17, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Game must have been from 1977 or before. 

message: You have a Pente game that's copywrited in 1977 ,and I remember playing Tessera on a Sega Megadrive many years ago, so the author of the article could do some research to find the games series in electronic form . By the way I happen to be Greek and Tria , Tessera , Pente is er... Greek for 3 , 4 , 5 . 
193.92.154.18 00:47, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I would like to add the following : 

message: I rearranged the paragraphs of the history section into a more chronological order.  I'm no expert on Pente, so feel free to work on it more.  There are a couple of paragraphs that had line-breaks in them that maybe were meant to be paragraph breaks, though I assumed not.  Also, it seems there are some gaps and missing dates in the history. -- Logotu (talk) 21:06, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Much of this article is subject to deletion due to violations of WP:OR and WP:V, to say nothing of WP:V WP:N.
:You did say WP:V. Twice. :D --Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:47, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You could chop, or you could check the External links section to see if any of them mention the rules you have concerns about. If there are, any that need citations, use  instead. We can't read your mind. --Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:47, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have looked at the external sources, and with respect, I don't think a single one appears to meet WP:RS.Unschool 05:27, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:OR]] 

message: I have been playing on a very old pente set. It was being played at Hideaway Pizza in Stillwater, OK ever since I can recall. It is rumored to have been invented there. Can someone check this? I find it unusual that it isn't mentioned here, since it is mentioned in the instructions, itself. And yes, Pente can and is still played by more than 2. 75.108.46.195 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 22:56, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: his linkedin shows he was an original franchiser of hideaway pizza.  gary gabrel is his name 216.80.48.30 (talk) 06:28, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pente: Invented by Stillwater, OK man 

message: I noticed that there was a game play link in the references. I removed that and added an exterior links section so the to external links were separated from the references.  who has been adding yet another game play site has accused me of having an "alterior motive" (I think "ulterior was meant) for removing them. :WP:EL is clear. Specifically neither :WP:ELYES nor :WP:ELMAYBE say anything about this sort of link. :WP:ELNO 13, sites that are only indirectly related to the article's subject seems to apply. Walter Görlitz (talk) 03:54, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:EL has clear guidelines about rich media, which I would believe applies to readily accessible, browser friendly websites which let the user directly experience what the article is about. This is commonly seen on articles about music, movies, speeches, and more. Additionally, the existing links seemed to have registration and funding requirements, so I replaced it with an open source alternative. I have sent these details to Walter as well in my edits and through messages, but the user seems inflexible and intent on making other users look bad instead of allowing wikipedia users to experience content directly related to the article without barrier.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shieldsy7 (talk • contribs) 04:03, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Videos of singles are usually included in the infobox, but only when they are official videos, not user-generated. They are often removed from EL sections, but some may exist. I do not know of links to music aside from that other than official websites for albums. I have not seen links to films at all. A written copy of a speech is often included for historical reasons, and I'm sure you can see how a speech is different than a game. Whether such links appear on other articles about music, film, etc. is not the point. Whether there's information that a reader can glean from visiting the link. It seems the only thing a reader can do is play a game. Now that I have read what you wrote, as a game you also may have a conflict of interest in publishing a link to this game play site. Are you a developer of that site? Are you trying to increase your SEO score by adding it here? Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:24, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

text: You've missed an important thing though, sites that use rich media are permitted, only if they add information that cannot be contained in the article. That's not the case with a site that is only for game play. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:06, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I also removed the other gameplay link. I had never noticed that it was only game play. The URL was a bit deceptive. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:07, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  You seem to think I don't want rich media or multimedia pages in EL, but if you read what I wrote above, and in your reverts, and other comments, you'll see that I am concerned with the utter lack of information from the links. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:09, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for getting back to me! I'm honestly just trying to get some information, I'm a bit of a noobie. Could you tell me why immensely popular board games (including the game which pente was based off of) all have direct gameplay references under their articles, especially to sites that don't require registration? Check these articles out: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chess
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draughts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Go_(game)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Shieldsy7 (talk • contribs) 04:23, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

text: You're new to Wikipedia. You can link to an article like this: :Go (game). I removed the links there and on the checkers article. Thanks for helping to weed this out. Please point to more. Oh, and sign your talk page comments with ~~~~ Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:27, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry. Your poor formatting meant I didn't see the link to the chess article, but it has no game play links in the EL section. There are six links in all: DMOZ, two   international organizations, two news links and a history page. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:29, 10 October 2020 (UTC)

text: DMOZ, now known as Curly, is a web directory and are permitted, although at the EL discussions, we have debated removing them as well because the content can vary from excellent to less than helpful. If you want to appeal to a larger audience, go to the talk page on the EL project page and ask there. Be sure to explain your relationship to the game—if any—when you comment. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:59, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Shieldsy7, you can join the discussion at Wikipedia:External links/Noticeboard (scroll to the end of the page to find the correct section). WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:05, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   I did not see anything at ELN. Did you mean :Wikipedia talk:External links#Game article and game play external links ? Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:14, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, sorry, yes.  I apologize for confusing everyone. WhatamIdoing (talk) 16:19, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links