Talk:A38 road

message: Could we add a list of primary destinations on the road. 
20:03, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Primary Destinations. 

message: Does anyone feel the recent edits do not really add anything to the article? It just seems to make the article longer with too many links, while not adding too much useful information. How would people feel about reverting to the [previous version] by SmackBot? jenuk1985 (talk) 00:45, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just a warning that I am going to start rewriting the route section in a few days time, if anyone else wants to get in there and have a go before me... feel free! jenuk1985 (talk) 16:01, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Edits 

message: I recall that in the 1990's (I think, as I was young at the time) the slip roads at the Marsh Mills junction were replaced by a pioneering method of sliding the newly constructed slip roads into place. As this was so new at the time I remember that the Italian President or PM came to witness this. Does anyone remember why the replacement was needed, when it took place or any further information? After brief searching, all I found was a mention by the company that carried it out (HOCHTIEF (UK) Construction). If we can get more info/refs it should be good to put into the 'Improvements' Section. Zangar (talk) 15:10, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I seem to remember seeing some information on this dotted around, I'll see if I can dig it out over the next few days. I'm planning on having a go at rewriting this article to attempt to get it up to GA standard so I'll try to include it. Jenuk1985 | Talk 15:13, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that, I've added a page for the A374 now if that helps. Feel free to review that and leave suggestions for my future editting/creation of these pages on my talk page. Zangar (talk) 18:18, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

text: I have managed to dig out the following articles:    which gives quite a bit of information that could be incorporated. Yes maps can in theory be used as sources, but it is very difficult to date specific changes using them (unless you have two maps a year apart, one without the change, and another with the change, but even then it is not totally reliable, as they sometimes take a while to catch up). Jenuk1985 | Talk 13:16, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marsh Mills Slip Road Replacement 

message: I moved a lot of detail from the route section into the improvements section, as a result of this I split the improvements into counties, which seemed the most appropriate at the time (bear in mind, these sections will expand quite a bit over the coming days/weeks). But on the other hand, I feel it may be a bit excessive, does anybody have any suggestions on a better way to split this? There may be too many (major) improvements to realistically split into a section for each improvement as is commonly done on roads pages. Jenuk1985 | Talk 19:36, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the improvements section is unreferenced. It should be possible to get a reference for the date each section of road opened.--TimTay (talk) 19:48, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, most of the content is from the original route section which was largely unreferenced. The dates seem appropriate, so I don't feel we'd be justified in removing them until we have made a good attempt at finding sources. I can source some of the more recent improvements, and I'm sure that with a bit of digging, the older ones will come to us too. (Apologies for the original edit, it was a rather rough and ready reorganisation as a starting point for expansion) Jenuk1985 | Talk 19:51, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Also of note is that the M5 Collumpton bypass actually opened as the A38, but that is really a tough one to find references for, I may have to locate the Devon archives for that one and go digging. I'm surprised such an "important" thing has so little coverage. Jenuk1985 | Talk 19:55, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No it is referenced, in a book on motorways, which I can borrow.Pyrotec (talk) 19:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be great (as an aside, I understand that book has images of the original bypass, would you be willing to scan it and e-mail them to me, just out of personal interest? Jenuk1985 | Talk 20:05, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Its this one, Charlesworth, George (1984), pp.135-140. - see M5 motorway.Pyrotec (talk) 20:07, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

text: I don't have any info on the A38 itself at present, but there was an economic depression after the end of WW I and I remember my father telling that the Government put money into road improvement schemes in the 1920s as a way of providing work for the unemployed - the conversation actually referred to what is now Wolverhampton New road (A4123). So, what is the start date of the Improvements section, 1920s, 1960s/70s when motorway construction was under way, or more recently? Just something to consider.Pyrotec (talk) 19:59, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I feel without excessive digging for info, we may only be able to reference most improvements from the 1940s/50s onwards, but if we can dig out earlier info, that shouldn't stop us from including it if appropriate. IIRC a lot of work was carried out not long before the M5 came along in Worcestershire to straighten the road and widen to 3 lanes (the suicide lanes for those in the know). Worcestershire archives have a lot of images relating to this, but I haven't looked deep enough to find anything more than pictures yet.Jenuk1985 | Talk 20:05, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Structure of improvements section

message: I felt that something like this should be put up for discussion before just including in the article, I don't think its been done before on a roads related, but would a table of notable locations, with an image and coords be useful?
Image	Name                                        	County          	Coords
     	Dobwalls Bypass                             	Cornwall        	
     	Tamar Bridge                                	Cornwall / Devon	
     	Former southern end of the Cullompton bypass	Somerset        	
And so on and so on...
Obviously it should be a fairly limited list, I've only included examples above. I think I have seen a similar thing used on a River article, but I can't for the life of me remember where! Jenuk1985 | Talk 19:39, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes it could help bring the article up to GA-class. I've not see a table like this on a river article - the River Parrett has some coordinates in the infobox, but not a table as such; and both the River Parrett and the River Irwell are GAs.Pyrotec (talk) 19:52, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, I'll copy this table over as a starting point, it can be added to as we go along. Jenuk1985 | Talk 19:54, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Thanks for adding the kml tags, I had no idea that could be done! Can I suggest we try it with images to start with, if it does get overwhelming as we make progress then by all means remove them. There may be a case for making them slightly smaller, but not so small that they don't add anything. It may just be a case of experimenting as things evolve, I'll start adding some more points in a bit to bring it to a realistic length, then we can start playing with the design? Jenuk1985 | Talk 21:38, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable Locations

message: I feel we need something about the by-passing of Sutton Coldfield (the old A38 is now, I believe, the A5127), but I'm not qualified to supply dates etc. Jan1naD (talk • contrib) 16:12, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birmingham to Lichfield 

message: The photo of the junction with the M5 at Droitwich is out of date, as one of the two roundabouts has been turned into a signal-controlled semi-roundabout.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sslaxx (talk • contribs) 23:49, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo's out of date. 

message: Sorry, have reverted my query. Have just seen the article on Bristol Airport. Well done, Simple Bob, your edit stands. Dieter Simon (talk) 02:11, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  So Bristol International Airport is not on the map cited ? 

message: is the A38 or the A6 the longest in england? I think it might be the A6 C. 22468 (talk) 10:01, 1 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have qulified this statement.  Unfortunately A6 road (England) does not give its length.  A1 must also be longer, but parts of it are now motorway and part of it is in Scotland.  Peterkingiron (talk) 16:34, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longest A road in England? 

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message: I'm surprised that there is no mention of the very famous (at the time reportedly the worst road traffic accident in England) crash on the (then) three lane stretch between Berkeley Road and Slimbridge, Gloucestershire, on the evening of Thursday 18th October 1962 when a youth club minibus from Filton collided with an Express Carrier lorry travelling from Gloucester, both in the centre lane at the junction for Claypits next to the Mercury Café. 11 adults and young people in the minibus died either at the scene, or later at Gloucester Hospital. The news was so tragic (two families wiped out) that the Bristol Evening Post unusually ran a lunchtime edition on the Friday. My understanding is that this accident was important in that it led to a Ministerial Review of the use three lane, but single, carriageways in the UK. The A38 at this point has since been reduced from the three lanes that it was to single carriageway plus cycle lanes either side. Andywebby (talk) 13:53, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  A38 - minibus crash October 1962 

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BTW I have reduced the amount of major junctions on this page from 58 to 7 by narrowing it down to just motorways. Thank you. Roads4117 (talk) 17:12, 26 January 2023 (UTC)
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