Talk:42 études ou caprices

message: I found several sources listing different versions of these pieces. A recording by Cihat Askin lists the tempo for the first study as "Adagio ma non troppo", whereas all editions I found list it as "Adagio sostenuto". The same recording lists the tempo of the last piece as "Allegro (Fuga)" (and the "Fugue" was also mentioned by someone in a previous version of the page), whereas all editions I found give the tempo as "Moderato", and the piece doesn't really look like a fugue to me. But the editions I found are all from the net and possibly outdated/wrong, and I am not a violinist, so I thought I'd add this notice here in case someone more knowledgeable wonders about the (possibly) wrong bits. --Jashiin (talk) 13:05, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The first and the last pieces

message: A number of incipits have recently been added. I find them unsuitable because they are too large. Unless  can be coaxed to produce smaller output, the only viable way of showing incipits would be with scans from the printed score, or converting the Lilypond output into scalable graphics. I think a good example for using incipits on a large scale is the article on Schumann's Fantasiestücke or on Bach's Great Eighteen Chorale Preludes or Goldberg Variations. I suggest to remove all recently added incipits until a smaller version can be found. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 06:12, 29 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The purpose of the score tag is exactly so that one doesn't have to scan in a printed score, or output Lilypond files as graphics, or find someone to record the material that you want to notate. There are several reasons: Firstly it is much easier to edit directly in Wikicode than to install a separate piece of software. Secondly images are by their nature closed formats - no-one can correct them or build upon them. Thirdly the score extension will automatically generate audio so you can listen to them. I agree the size isn't perfect, but the use of score is a big step forward. The Land (talk) 09:24, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Incipits

message: Encountered a bug when trying to write 17. Using the following code produces a similar error to the one discussed here; http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki.bugs/319486
 

%etude17
\relative b
{  
\time 12/8
\tempo "17. Maestoso"
\key bes \major
bes8-. bes'4 \trill \acciaccatura {a8} bes8-. bes,-. bes'8-.
d,8-. d'4 \trill \acciaccatura {c8} d8-. d,8-. d'8-.
f,8-. f'4 \trill \acciaccatura {e8} f8-. f,8-. f'8-.
bes,8-. bes'4 \trill \acciaccatura {a8} bes8-. bes,8-. bes'8-.
} 

Oddly enough using only the first bar works fine. The Land (talk) 09:24, 26 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I revise the score on zh-wikipedia (here) which looks similar to the original score. May be all of you can have a look.--Foamposite (talk) 16:12, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Faulty code for 17

message: I am so surprised that someone undo my edit and claimed that "sources call No. 21 D major".  First, Kreutzer did not indicate the name of the key on the score -- even you refer most of the scores you can get from a shop, or the copies from IMSLP. I check "An Encyclopedia of the Violin" by Alberto Bachmann and it does not mentioned either; second, the tonality is obviously a minor key instead of a major key; third, the most popular CD of this piece indicates is "b minor" (See this, a 40-piece version, therefore #20 CD = #21 here).  Although another CD version by Cuhat Askin says it is D major, it is simply the norms of Music Theory, and should be corrected if "the source" is wrong.--Foamposite (talk) 14:50, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tonality of No.21 

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message: There is some confusion about the numbering reflected in the comments. My best guess is the the published editions place the first according to the author of the Wikipedia article more difficult number one as number 42. Thus all the other numbers (and keys) are off by one. For instance in my edition the fugue is #41 not #42. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.34.46.29 (talk) 10:08, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Numbering