Talk:Apostolic see

message: Would it not be helpful to include all of the sees legendarily founded by apostles? I'm particularly thinking of the community of Saint Thomas Christians said to have been founded by Thomas the Twin in 64 CE. Presumably, similar legends are attributed to most of the other apostles in various places as well? QuartierLatin1968 21:30, 23 Apr 2005 (UTC)

message: Regarding the latest edit * Jerusalem, in present-day Israel, or Palestine, from the twelve apostles themselves as the original Church and also a successor of the Apostle Saint James - I have changed the apostles to apostles to point to Twelve_Apostles article. --Biblbroks's talk 18:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Twelve apostles dab 

message: What does this phrase: "The sees of Antioch, Alexandria and Jerusalem are traditionally divided in their allegiance to either Rome or Constantinople, but the modern movement of ecumenism seeks to heal these church-dividing wounds." mean? I wasn't aware of those three sees owing allegiance to Rome. Is that a reference to the Eastern Catholic Churches? If this is the case, shouldn't we also make reference to the Oriental Orthodox, who claim these three sees as well (the Copts with Alexandria, the Syrians with Antioch, and the Armenians with Jerusalem)?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deusveritasest (talk • contribs) 04:38, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  If ADM wants it back in, he should clarify and source it.  Lima (talk) 04:44, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allegiance to Rome or Constantinople 

message: Also, it seems that there is a certain shortage of references to sees which claim Apostolic origin. This article is seemingly limited to the Pentarchy, yet there are many more sees to be listed beyond these five. Should not this article be broadened as such? Deusveritasest (talk) 06:05, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Some are mentioned.  You may add more.  I have endeavoured to draw more attention to non-patriarchal ones by putting those classified as the Pentarchy in a separate paragraph and slightly simplifying their description.  Lima (talk) 10:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other sees 

message: What is the point of referring to the Holy Land in Latin in this article? Deusveritasest (talk) 06:07, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Unjustified and, moreover, ungrammatical.  Lima (talk) 10:49, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Terrae Sanctae" 

message: I believe that, as with episcopal sees, one doesn't use initial caps when writing about apostolic sees, unless one is referring to the Apostolic See, that is, the Holy See. So can we move this to Apostolic see, which currently redirects here? —Largo Plazo (talk) 18:32, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can we move this to [[Apostolic see]]? 

message: Can someone please upload this map?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:TheApostolicSees.png
It fits this page perfectly.  Thanks. --Daniel the duck (talk) 22:00, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: A request for additional citations has been placed in the article.  It would be helpful to have an indication of the items in it that are felt to require additional citations.  Esoglou (talk) 06:45, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added a few additional citations and have removed the tag until the editor who placed indicates what she or he wants.  Esoglou (talk) 18:35, 22 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for additional citations 

message: "The Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Church claims founding by Saint Philip the Evangelist."  Yes, but the Church does not claim that St Philip founded a see.  According to the article on this Church, Ethiopia didn't have a bishop until a few centuries later. Likewise the article on the St Thomas Christian Churches says " "Saint Thomas Christians remained as an independent group, and they got their bishops from Church of the East until the 16th century." --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 18:11, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "apostolic see" vs "apostolic origins" 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: An editor has insisted that the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Goa and Daman, which was founded on 31 January 1533 is an apostolic see or church because of an alleged visit by the Apostle Barnabas (of which there is "no local tradition") to what has been interpreted as "the Bombay region on the Konkan coast". This seems highly dubious.  Bealtainemí (talk) 10:32, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Original research arguments are irrelevant (see WP:OR). Just cite a reliable source for the claim you have inserted, i.e., that the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Goa and Daman / Goa, Maharashtra is an apostolic see or church. Until you do, your claim is still dubious.  Bealtainemí (talk) 10:06, 13 September 2020 (UTC)

text: The Roman Martyrology says that Bartholomew "is reported to have preached the Gospel in India after the Ascension of the Lord and there was crowned with martyrdom" (post Ascensionem Domini Evangelium in India ipse praedicasse traditur ibique martyrio coronatus esse). It does not say that he preached and was martyred in God, not in Bombay, nor indeed in what is now called India rather than, say, Pakistan.  So where is the reliable source that says that "Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Goa and Daman /Goa, Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Bombay/Maharashtra" is/are an apostolic see or church?  Bealtainemí (talk) 08:21, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

text: Please read this.  Bealtainemí (talk) 13:56, 14 September 2020 (UTC)

text: Does what you inaccurately call "the website of catholic church" say that Saint Bartholomew founded the Church of Goa or the Church of Maharashtra, as you claim?  Bealtainemí (talk) 18:54, 14 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goa as apostolic see 

message: I see all the main Apostles in the list, but I don't see Matthew. He was a very important Apostle, and considering that he was one of the actual eye-witnesses of all the inner workings of the 12 Apostles, it is highly likely that his Gospel was written first, in Hebrew, translated to Greek, and then became a source for both Luke and Mark. Instead of seeing Mark as the original source, it makes far more sense that Mark wrote a concise account, based on information he extracted from both Matthew and Luke, and also on things he knew firsthand, based on his more limited interactions as one of the 70 apostles. 2603:8000:44F0:8BA0:6FB7:584A:8E14:3F79 (talk) 21:08, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is Matthew in all of this?