Talk:Politics of England

message: I have expanded this page substantially, particularly in regards to the devolution of Scotland, Wales and London, the Cornish issue, and also the regional debate. --MacRusgail 16:57, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You should add the sources of your information. Tim! 06:59, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The devolution of Scotland and Wales hardly need "sources". I live in one of them! The article was appallingly small, and as such I have tended to link into other wikipedia articles, which are better sourced. I get the impression it was mainly intended as a "gateway page". --MacRusgail 18:27, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: initial comment

message: Part of England is already devolved - London!!! That section needs to be developed. Also I would argue that the English parliament never went away, it just expanded to include surrounding countries... --MacRusgail 10:17, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Devolution of London

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message: Hope this is an improvement.  Perhaps individual sections can now be expanded. Cheers Fishiehelper2 (talk) 17:34, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Berwick is relevant, since England believes it to be part of it, but never properly annexed it, and it arguably violates treaties etc. However, this article has to be better than a whinge about the evil "Celts" - something which seems to be a problem with English politics. There always has to be an outside scapegoat. I am glad that the London devolution section was not removed, merely moved. I will go over it, and see that it doesn't descend into rant. --MacRusgail (talk) 14:45, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cheers. The best example I would use of the West Lothian question working the other way was the Poll Tax being inflicted on Scotland despite overwhelming majority of Scottish MPs being against - the conservatives claimed it was acceptable to do this as we were all part of a UK parliament, but the Conservatives produced a separate Scottish manifesto, got defeated in the election in Scotland, then imposed their ideas anyway based on having a huge majority south of the border!  Well, the shoes on the other foot now!!! Cheers again Fishiehelper2 (talk) 16:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted your edits to the bullet points. This is nothing personal, I just feel that the salient points can be picked up more quickly if they are "bulleted".--MacRusgail (talk) 15:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: I've re-organised the sections

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replies: text: Doubleplus unfree - language like this is straight out of 1984!!! --MacRusgail (talk) 15:04, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
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message: I would suggest that this article also needs a section on the Church of England. The CofE sends representatives to the Lords, is largely appointed by the crown, and there have also been various arguments over the centuries about establishment, and disestablishment.--MacRusgail (talk) 16:11, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Church of England 

message: The section #2010_General_Election >> at this link << does not make sense, my friends.
* However, England did get a majority Conservative government as the Conservative party won only a handful of the 117 constituencies in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Maybe the above sentence should read something like
* However, the UK did not get a majority Conservative government as the Conservative party won only a handful of the 117 constituencies in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
Can a UK expert fix this please?  Thanks.  Rednblu (talk) 10:57, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "England did get a majority Conservative government"?  Really?? 

message: The Politics of England is swamped with other nation material that does not appear relevant or reciprocally on other pages.
England ceased being its own nation in 1707 Act of Union, so no need to post Ireland joining etc.
If bloat cannot be moved to own, more detailed pages, such as 'West Lothian Question', what is the point in Wikipedia if need to explain everything all over again?
KISS Keep it Short & Simple.  Don't need hundreds of words about other's Devolution/Independence, other than England is only nation without any vote, ever.
N.Ireland was missing from Politics of UK, so I am working on tidying all these Politics of Nations pages. Feel free to help, not hinder with petty squables over oppression in English Bicknor lol. No war (or burnt out cottages) over this border in hundreds of years, I guess it's a non-issue for locals like Henry V (just like Berwick), just outsiders stirring BillCaxton (talk) 18:03, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Please either buy a time-machine to complain about Bicknor, or preferably send more Penderyn as English Whiskey Co not producing enough BillCaxton (talk) 19:33, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  General bloat of Status 

message: Please discuss... as adding references (was a bit slow on electoral calculus as certificate iffy)
UK Politics has been locked in Brexit since June 2016 Referendum. Although an international independence issue from the EU, and co-join of the words 'Britain' and 'Exit', many other home nations blame Brexit on (primarily English) 'Nationalism'. Although controversially, there is no active 'English Nationalist Party' to match SNP landslide, many politicians on all sides fear sleeping English giant.  In spite of the 2015 landslide for the SNP in Scotland, analysis of constituency demographics continue to show many English constituencies are more nationalistic https://fullfact.org/europe/would-brexit-party-win-general-election/  [Electoral Calculus]. 
Although (Brexit/English) Nationalism is split across economically Left and Right constituencies, in recent Parliamentary by-elections like Peterborough, tactical voting has allowed Farage's UKIP/Brexit to come much closer (within a few hundred votes) by displacing the traditional 3rd place party. Although over the border in Wales, imminent 2019_Brecon_and_Radnorshire_by-election is more likely to favour centrist LibDem challenge, rather than further insight, although re-fielding a Recall-Petition candidate is a risky strategy that may reveal Brexit Party ability to steal Conservative votes in England.
Although Brexit is often portrayed as a Labour/Northern issue, similar known Midlands and Eastern Ukip 'target' constituencies arise https://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/apr/23/revolt-on-right-robert-ford-matthew-goodwin-review[Revolt on the Right], which Nigel Farage's new Brexit Party currently appear poised to finally challenge where UK branded UKIP could not, even in Wales, where Plaid Cymru should be the 'nationalist' option. 
 	
UKIP first campaigned on unfair Barnet-Formula allocation, which Brexit may represent displaced and unaddressed 'Nationalist' canker, with similar Welsh feeling.  Scotland and Northern Ireland have faired best under Barnett-Formula re-allocation of spending; and whilst Wales demands 10% higher more spending than England, it still lags well behind. Boris Johnson as current lead candidate for British Prime-Minister, has previously described Barnett as lorries of cash up the M1 to Scotland (failing to appreciate the up 4-lane M1 gives way to single-carriageway A1 towards border at Berwick. With Brexit due to be delivered by Halloween 2019, and the SNP demanding a further Independence Referendum (to rejoin the EU), British and English politics appear eerily inter-twined in a way no devolved government expected before the Millenia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by BillCaxton (talk • contribs) 22:30, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/17746839.vulgar-english-nationalism-blamed-scottish-independence/ a (Spanish-lol) Catalan journalist cited in Scottish press, can't get more independent than that BillCaxton (talk) 22:41, 12 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read WP:OR and WP:SYNTH.  In effect you are writing an essay on the subject using a selection of sources. If the same essay was written by an academic, or came from a third party reliable source then we could use it; but not from a wikipedia editor-----Snowded TALK 10:42, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brexit blamed primarily on nationalism in England