Talk:Ngô Bảo Châu

message: Sources suggest that his family name is Ngo rather than Chau. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rumping (talk • contribs) 
:Of course his family name is Ngô and not Châu (which is his given name), you can see that his father's full name is Ngô Huy Cẩn. Grenouille vert (talk) 18:14, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: So when the article uses a single name, should that be Ngo?--Rumping (talk) 20:53, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, per the custom for Vietnamese people, they should be referred to by their given name. DHN (talk) 23:25, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I know nothing about Vietnamese naming conventions beyond what I've read in this article, but it seems to be a fact that among mathematicians he's referred to as Ngo, not Chau.  For example, the official laudation for his Fields Medal refers to him as Ngo.  It's conceivable that because he lives in the USA, he's adopted the convention used there.  To refer to him as Ngo may be in some sense incorrect, but it appears to be the common usage. 86.0.200.220 (talk) 06:00, 25 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: If he's adopted Western customs to refer to his name, then his full name should be referred to as "Bao-Chau Ngo", not "Ngo Bao Chau". DHN (talk) 22:47, 31 August 2010 (UTC)

text: When referring to Japanese people by a single name, their family name is used, regardless of whether in an English or Japanese publication.  When referring to a Vietnamese person by a single name, their given name is used.  This is not an English convention or a Vietnamese convention, it's just how it is.  Even the CIA World Factbook follows this . DHN (talk) 18:27, 9 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Family name

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was: Move - Published English-language sources most commonly omit Vietnamese diacritics, therefore Wikipedia's guidelines about foreign names and anglicization is in support of removing the diacritics from the articles in question. Neelix (talk) 20:32, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The main problem is that Vietnamese names are not given with diacritics by any published English-language source. For Nguyen Van Thieu, I found 1 example on Google Books with diacritics out of 6,180 post-1980 mentions. Kauffner (talk) 16:02, 5 July 2011 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
The link to "Paul Germain" obviously leads to the wrong person, someone accidentally having the same name!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.98.30.178 (talk) 08:54, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move: Removing diacritics 

message: * homepage 15 Mar 2011 "Ngô Bảo Châu ... University Avenue Chicago,"
* Duke Mathematical Journal Le lemme fondamental de Jacquet et Ye en caractéristique positive. Ngô Báo Châu. Source: Duke Math. J. Volume 96, Number 3 (1999), 473-520. First Page:
** Bulletin of the American Mathematical Society "Ngô Báo Châu, Le lemme fondamental de Jacquet et Ye en caractéristique positive"
* International Congress of Mathematicians, Fields Medal – Ngô Bảo Châu 19 Aug 2010 "Ngô Bảo Châu is being awarded the 2010 Fields Medal for for his proof of the Fundamental Lemma in the theory of automorphic forms through .."
* www.newscientist.com Mathematics 'Nobel' rewards boundary-busting work 19 Aug 2010 – "Four mathematicians have won the Fields medal for work that helps ... Aside from Lindenstrauss, this year's winners were Ngô Bảo Châu of the ..."
** Nature.com Four mathematicians reap Fields Medals - 19 Aug 2010 – "The Fields Medals – often called 'the Nobels of the maths world' – were awarded to Elon Lindenstrauss, Ngô Bảo Châu, Stanislav Smirnov, ..."
** NTU Singapore - The 2010 recipients were Elon Lindenstrauss, Ngô Bảo Châu, Stanislav ...
* Prof. Ngô Bảo Châu - The International Peace Foundation  "Ngô Bảo Châu was born in 1972 in Hanoi and at the age of 15 was admitted into a mathematics-specializing class of the Vietnam National University High ..."
* CampusFrance.org Mathematical research in France (pdf) "More recent demonstrations of the tradition of French excellence in mathematics ... Supérieure de Lyon, and Ngô Bảo Châu, professor at Université Paris-Sud."
* 25 Jun 2012 – International Mathematical Union Ramanujan_Prize_Announcement.pdf "The Selection Committee consisted of Ngô Bảo Châu, Helge Holden, Maria José Pacifico, Vasudevan. Srinivas and Lothar Göttsche (Chair)"
* AUSTMS AUSTMS Mathematics Newsletter - Australian Mathematical Society "with the 2010 Fields Medallist Ngô Bảo Châu and a feature on the new centre of ...... Ngô Bảo Châu. From A Mathematical.."  
* AMSI "Ngô Bảo Châu Université Paris Sud for his proof of the Fundamental Lemma in the theory of automorphic forms through the introduction of new algebro geometric methods" In ictu oculi (talk) 00:53, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Ngô Bảo Châu own preference

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message: The lead sentence of the article describes Ngo as "Vietnamese-French".  Another IP would like to remove the descriptor "French", based on a variety of arguments (see the edit summaries of recent edits to the article).  I would like to keep the descriptor, since it is accurate (Ngo has French citizenship) and expresses an important piece of his biography (citizenship + PhD awarded + 20ish years of residency + several academic positions there).  Can other editors please weigh in, in order to establish consensus? --173.79.47.7 (talk) 22:59, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Radical suggestion:  Remove nationality from the lead sentence.  It is not that important for mathematicians.  The nuances can be explained in the body. --Trovatore (talk) 23:34, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: In general, if we do not have reliable sources for his citizenship, we should not be stating his citizenship, per WP:BLP. In this case, we do have sources, but they state that he has both citizenships. So my position is that either we should omit the citizenship as too unimportant for the lead, or list both. To choose one or the other is to editorialize without justification. —David Eppstein (talk) 17:17, 14 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with David Eppstein here. Per WP:ETHNICITY, it's fine to give Ngô's nationalities. Dropping it is also fine, per Trovatore, but I wouldn't mind seeing it stay given Ngô's recent work in the development of mathematics in Vietnam (e.g. the newly-created Vietnam Institute for Advanced Study in Mathematics). — MarkH21 (talk) 18:36, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree that both or neither seems right in the abstract.  And his connection to Vietnam seems significant enough that I wouldn't want to drop that from the lead. [Edit to add: looks like MarkH21 and I were writing the same thing just at the same moment!] --JBL (talk) 18:39, 15 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  French or not? 

message: Some IP editor keeps deleting a bunch of sources with no explanation (first  with an edit summary that does not appear to relate to the edit, most recently ).  Can I get a second opinion on whether this is defensible or not?  (In the latter case, I will apply for some form of protection for the article.) --JBL (talk) 23:59, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you that the IP editor's repeated deletions without explanation are indefensible. NealKoblitz (talk) 16:23, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for your input -- I have (again) restored the references, and hopefully the IP editor will try to explain their edit.  --JBL (talk) 16:34, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unexplained deletion of sources