Talk:Year of the Elephant

message: Is the sheik al-Sulami referred to Mohammed's father or what? Lycurgus (talk) 12:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Presume not, see family tree. 71.186.172.82 (talk) 01:07, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relevance to Muhammed PBHN 

message: Mr. Wikipedia,
I would like to know Who is Halemah , this lady took care of Muhamad ,( in actual facts This Muhamad is Halimah's son not Aminah's Son ..................please clarify.
References: http://www.islamawareness.net/Muhammed/saw.html --Striver 15:15, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stray Comment 

message: I dont get it. Muhammad became Prophet in 10 BH, and was forty years old. Then, this date most have been on 50 BH. Then why does everybody say it happened on 570 or 571 CE? 571 Ce is 53 BH!--Striver 15:18, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't get it, according to the reference listed by yourself above 570 = birth, 610 = prophethood, 622 = hijrah 632 = death. 40+23, both numbers seem to add up not sure where you got the 10BH for prophecy check the AH date for his death 12th Rabi' al-Awwal, 11AH, prophethood 23 years so 12 BH at best for revelation at hira, even the first Hijrah to abyssinia is only 7 AH. Anyway I beleive the date is usually back calculated (hence the source says estimated at 570 in the article and 571 on the webpage), and is there is some variation due to corrections in the length of years due to the variability of the transition of months so you have to be careful if the narrator is a historic muslim source and referring to and counting years and months in AH or a western source attemptin to translate the years into CE which creates the error in the dating between sources. Hope that helps, I think your error arises from fixing 10 BH as hijrah or mixed usage of "years" interchangeably between muslim and gregorian calendars.--Tigeroo 19:03, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earliest Post 

message: According To the histrocial Islamic and non-islamic books, Abraha wasn't chrsitian becuase when he joined to invade mecca he was seek to Destroy the kaaba ( what was been worishpped ) and build an other Kabaa for himself and he was  telling the people that he is God in human body and they must worship him and his kabaa and leave ther religions  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.139.210.34 (talk) 08:44, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Abraha wasn't Chrsitian 

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message: I removed a bizarre paragraph in the introductory section which contained a reference to an Aremnian Church father and chronicler (Sebeos), alluding to his recount of one of many conflicts the Persians had against the Byzantines and used elephants in, however citing a book which was non-congruent with the sentence written with no page number. Another sentence at the beginning states Procopius and others dispute the event, however no evidence was given and a false citation to a page that also did not dispute the event was given. The second part of the paragraph was written in a casual prose and talked about Meccans terrain being hostile to elephants - This should not be in the intro, and is unacademic and silly (Hannibal Barca marched elephants through Spain, to Rome). The final part of the paragraph removed had a reference. 
If there's going to be criticism of the validity of the fact that there was a "Year of the Elephant" it shouldn't be in the intro, and should have some reasonably scholarly sources. LuckyDukeSeven (talk) 03:25, 24 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introductory Paragraph Bias 

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