Talk:WKRP in Cincinnati

message: The NBC show newsradio was loosely based on WKRP, perhaps that should be mentioned 66.75.49.213 11:04, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The song in question is sung by a choir like The Mormon Tabernacle (though the choir in question does not use that name) and is in a classical music style with the male voices hilariously adding the line "right now" at a given moment. MarnetteD | Talk 13:20, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I couldn't put this in the article, since it would amount to what Wikipedian refer to as "original research" but I always though that KRP may have come from krap or crap radio. Any possibility of exporing this? -WCFrancis 18:19, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The call letters could be based on Cincinnati's WKRQ. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 06:44, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

text: The call letters came from which is only speculation: "We Keep Records Playing".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.43.172.50 (talk) 16:37, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I had read at some point in the past that Wilson wanted to name the station WSHT, but the idea was vetoed by MTM. I do not remember the source so it is, perhaps, just an "urban legend".THX1136 (talk) 15:17, 15 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source of all letters 

message: Sandy's Travis was a sitcom mainstay, the 1 sane person surrounded by lunatics. Cf Judd Hirsch in "Taxi" & the "black WKRP" of the '90s (not "Newsradio", I don't think; costar Ron Glass as "the fifth Top").  Trekphiler 19:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sane? 

message: This paragraph makes it sound like Arthur Carlson was a real person who owned radio stations:
Gordon Jump's character was based on an actual person, as was Dr. Johnny Fever's. Arthur Carlson owned a group of radio stations in Central Pennsylvania under the name Susquehanna Radio. Based in York, Pa., it was one of the first radio "chains" to emerge in the late '60s and early '70s. Carlson also was a past president of the Radio Advertising Bureau (RAB). Fever was based on an afternoon drive DJ at one of Carlson's stations who was working under the name "Kevin McKeever". WCBG (now dark) was a 5,000-watt powerhouse in southcentral Pennsylvania.
--68.100.8.70 03:37, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, he really is.  See the RAB website  for a pic. AUTiger ʃ talk/work 03:54, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arthur Carlson 

message: I distinctly remember seeing an engineer (Bucky?) in at least two episodes, one involving the softball game, and the other where Johnny does the remote show. He should be mentioned. Jimcripps 03:49, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other characters 

message: One anonymous editor has been adding elements of an Episode Guide in large chunks to this article during the last few days.  Another anonymous editor, noting it is incomplete, deleted the whole thing.  I've restored those deletions because I don't think deleting all that is appropriate without discussion, especially in the midst of its apparently being posted.
On the otherhand, it does seem to be a bit much for the middle of an article like this.  Would it be more appropriate as a separate article?  Is it appropriate in wikipedia at all?  What is the usual process of dealing with detailed episode descriptions of television series?
Pzavon 00:54, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I've seen, series with few episodes (Woops!, Quark (TV series)) have episode guides as part of the main article.  But series with several seasons (Moonlighting, Gilligan's Island) have episode guides as a separate article.  I don't know how many seasons would make the difference between including in the article or not, but I'd suggest three seasons.  (Star Trek: The Original Series) But WKRP in Cincinnati lasted longer than that, so as long as it gets three or four seasons listed, move them to a separate article. Val42 20:24, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode Guide 

message: I would agree that for this main page the character detail is too much.  Each has a link to their own page, so there is duplication that is not needed on the main WKRP page.  Need a short summary of each for the main page, and retain the links to the character pages for those interested in further info.  That would be my advice, and this is one of my all time favorite shows, so I am talking as a person who finds this of more interest than an average person looking at the page.  kidsheaven 21:47, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've shortened the character sections. See what you think.  Joyous! | Talk 03:29, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You beat me to it by a whisker. Other than a few minor details, everything you did matches my would-be changes. Clarityfiend 04:03, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent Ranking B

message: Is it "Baby, if you ever wondered..." or "Baby, if you've ever wondered..."? The title of a 2nd season episode answers this question. Clarityfiend 06:06, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This site  is enough to make you think otherwise. Lambertman (talk) 23:05, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Song wording

message: The characters are listed and described before the beginning of the actual character list.  Is this really necessary? D. J. Cartwright 01:20, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a much shorter summary of the characters, and the Premise section would be reduced to two sentences otherwise. But it doesn't have to be in the same point form. Clarityfiend 15:09, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character list 

message: Under the DVD Releases section, there is an erroneous  comment that the original song playing when Carlson interrupts Johnny Fever in the booth that the original song was "Pigs on the Wing". The original song was actually "Dogs," off of the same Pink Floyd album Animals as "Pigs on the Wing." (That's the album cover Johnny hands to Carlson to look over in that scene.) Fever responded to Carlson's comment about "Pigs on the Wing" by saying "I don't do requests," meaning he wasn't going to play a different song if Carlson had requested it -- that "Pigs on the Wing" (a slow acoustic number) was NOT the song currently playing.
I know this for sure because I was a rabid fan of this show and especially that album when the episode first aired, and I was blown away that they would include such an obscure song (obscure on radio anyway) that I so dearly loved.   :oD
I'm replacing the song title in the note, but I wonder if the DVD version actually does retain the original song "Dogs." I "might or might not have" downloaded the episode from a peer-to-peer torrent, and the currently circulating version in that world still retains the original "Dogs." Also, I believe the episode title is "Turkeys Away." My favorite scene from my favorite episode!  Dcs002 (talk) 02:42, 31 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's station manager Arthur Carlson (Gordon Jump) who says "As God is my witness... I thought turkeys could fly." He's the one who (secretly, in the show) did the promotion. Nessman's famous line from that episode is, "Oh, the humanity!" when reporting from the scene of the "turkey drop." Jororo05 (talk) 18:30, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Pigs on the Wing" vs "Dogs" by Pink Floyd  

message: The article states: "In later episodes, Venus's backstory is changed, and it is revealed that he spent several years as a high-school teacher before becoming a radio personality".
This should be changed as, in actuality, Venus' backstory was never changed (i.e. he was a teacher in addition to being a Veitnam Vet). In fact, his Vietnam experience is referenced in at least two episodes following the eposide in which it is revealed that he was a teacher. The timeline remained consistent - he left the army when he was 23, taught for three years, worked at a station in the Southern US (St. Louis?), and came to work at WKRP when he was thirty.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.65.69.117 (talk) 04:19, 28 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Venus Flytrap 

message: This whole section doesn't meet the "who cares" criteria in my opinion. While it's somewhat "interesting" that music had to be changed due to copyright issues in syndication, the substance of the show hasn't been changed and thus this info is really non-notable minutia and is effectively just page-filler. For those that are veterans on this page and/or edit this section, what are some/any quality reasons for keeping this section and what exactly will be lacking if this entire section is deleted? Ckruschke (talk) 12:26, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No one responded to my original post so I'm going to ask again. This section is extremely trivial and I'm not sure of it's point. In addition, none of the music changes are referenced so it appears to be 100% OR. So in my opinion, this entire section should be deleted and I plan on doing so in a week or so unless there are justified dissenting opinions. Ckruschke (talk) 18:41, 27 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music changes for late 1990s syndicated airings and DVD releases 

message: I'm surprised that the article failed to mention the fact that a special WKRP in Cincinnati episode was made in direct response to the real-life event of eleven fans getting trampled to death at the entrance to a Who concert in Cincinnati on December 3, 1979 due to the use of "festival seating" (no assigned seats) and a delay in opening the doors to let everyone in.  I was 16 when it happened, and I remember that that news story was HUGE at that time.
HankW512 (talk) 07:35, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You're asking a good question. I think that the series had a number of "very special episodes", so calling out one of them probably doesn't make sense. There was that episode, the one where Herb's father shows up, the one with the baby abandoned at the station, the one where the tornado hit, the one where Venus Flytrap's Vietnam War history was revealed...you get the idea. If you feel strongly about it, you may want to do a write-up about that episode (and maybe some of the others I just mentioned) for the show in the "Very Special Episode" article. --PoughkeepsieNative (talk) 00:26, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The difference though is the Who tragedy was a real-life disaster, and the episode was written and filmed within a couple months of the event and according to Tim Reid was only aired after the city's council gave permission. It was definitely a "ripped from the headlines" moment - not too far removed from how a number of series produced episodes responding to 9-11. There was also another timely episode where Carlson has a debate with a religious fundamentalist who was trying to get certain songs banned from WKRP (one being John Lennon's Imagine). That aired at a time when broadcasters were under pressure. 70.73.90.119 (talk) 03:15, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Tragedy At the December 3, 1979 Who Concert 

message: User RaleighRadioGaGa has repeatedly added unsourced information about WKRP-LP (FM) and WBQC-LD. Sundayclose (talk) 16:21, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean like this one ?  Given your behavior, I might have used a similar edit summary.  Toddst1 (talk) 16:24, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I appreciate your good-faith concerns, but my comment above relates to the unsourced addition, not the personal attacks. Sundayclose (talk) 16:26, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the section as it has nothing to do with WKRP in Cincinnati whether well-cited or not.  Toddst1 (talk) 16:33, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks. Sundayclose (talk) 16:35, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced edits 

message: I think this This edit by  sucked the life out of the prose describing Mr. Carlsen and Dr. Johnny Fever.  It might have been a little wordy, I'm not really bothered by that, but others might think it could be trimmed.  I'm biting my tongue to avoid directly reverting this at the moment.  Can we hear from other members of the community?  Or if someone else agrees with me, go ahead and revert. Trackinfo (talk) 08:49, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: This is an encyclopedia, not a trivia guide. For example, Mr. Carlson's war service had no bearing on any of the episodes that I can recall. Same with "booger". Clarityfiend (talk) 08:56, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll grant the military service stuff, someone just added that yesterday.  Other than the military school for his son, it wasn't a key element.  Your rewording of Venus was good.  Jennifer's saying Carlsen is dead, a one time gag, not necessary.  However; fishing (and its association to "Red Wigglers," it was Carlsen's client) rather than the oddly worded "playing"; "burned out," the whole episode 1 backstory, decline, list of names on the mug, "Easy Listening," Fever's lack of confidence, particularly "booger" are essential to the full series make up of these characters, not just trivia. Trackinfo (talk) 22:29, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trimming