Talk:Memphis, Tennessee/Archive 2

message: W.C. Handy's song, "Mr. Crump" might be a fitting mention at some point,with a link.  The article's getting pretty large now.
"In 1909, Handy and his band were asked to play for the campaign of the Memphis political boss, Edward H. Crump. At the time, the most popular song in their repertoire was a piece called "Mr. Crump" which contained some lines not exactly complimentary to their patron:
'Mr. Crump doan allow no easy riders here.
We doan care what Mr. Crump doan allow,
We gonna Barrel-house anyhow.
Mr. Crump can go and catch himself some air.'"
As you know the song's title was later changed to, "The Memphis Blues." --Scribner 19:50, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a fun piece of trivia.  It gets a quick mention in Handy's article, but it could work here, too, although I can't think how too incorporate it.  -- Vary | Talk 02:04, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  W.C. Handy 

message: Scribner, I don't know who you spoke with, but it wasn't the right person. The Mayor's office wouldn't know anything about it. It's a city council issue. Call this number 901-576-6793 and ask for . She's the City Council Secretary and has been for 15 years. If you had searched the article you would have seen that another editor spoke with her in February. Your another uninformed meddler. Saks has a right to display this on his site. You tell him, or his webmaster, that he doesn't ! Or even better, Mr. Saks' phone number is public. Call him and ask him. No one that would call him a liar in an anonymous users forum has the fortitude, such as you, Scribner. Only a person who demonstrates fear or timidity would resort to such an insult. Did you check to see if any of Mr. Saks' recordings are in the public library ? They're in the Memphis Music Collection and in the Memphis Room.66.239.212.41 02:45, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What does that link prove?  It indicates that the song exists, but no one is disputing its existence. · j·e·r·s·y·k·o talk · 03:49, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the Matter of Memphis Musician David Saks 

message: Why is there no mention in this article that Memphis is the home of the first self-service grocery store, Piggly Wiggly?  There is no mention of Clarence Saunders, the founder of Piggly Wiggly, and original owner of the Pink Palace.--70.248.232.236 12:55, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, you've got us there.  If Piggly Wiggly's not in the article, clearly David Saks needs to be, and he even needs an article of his own.  I see.  Wikipedia articles are all works in progress.  70.248.232.236's suggestions are interesting ones, and I'm sure there are many other notable pieces of information verifiable in reliable sources that should be in this article.  That fact, however, does nothing for the inclusion of Saks or his song here. · j·e·r·s·y·k·o talk · 14:01, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

text: "amusing, ludicrous, farcical, derisory, idiotic, laughable and cockeyed", you know, any one of those would have gotten your point across (it being that you want to be insulting while also being dismissive).  Why the thesaurus?  I see it's a recurring theme whenever you're attempting to insult people here. · j·e·r·s·y·k·o talk · 14:28, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

text: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5!. · j·e·r·s·y·k·o talk · 15:37, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Reneec, please be civil and refrain from making personal attacks. I've removed your personal attacks above. — Saxifrage ✎ 18:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Piggly Wiggly 

message: I called Ms. (name hidden) of the City of Memphis, today, 8/16/06, here are the facts regarding  David Saks:
*There is not an official song of Memphis, end of story.
<personal attack removed>Reneec 05:29, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you Scribner.  Your have much fortitude. · j·e·r·s·y·k·o talk · 16:53, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sigh.  Thanks for doing the legwork, Scribner. -- Vary | Talk 17:30, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

text: lol such a large fight over somethign so small Barcode 18:40, 16 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Thank you Scribner for going through the effort.  We are really grateful. - Dozenist talk 22:41, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Here's the truth about David Saks 

message: David, tell us all exactly how you came to be honored by the City Council for the two songs.  Be specific, please.--Scribner 15:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Call Saks and ask him, Scribner. His number's in the Memphis phone directory.Reneec 16:06, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I want him to respond right here.  Does he have something to hide?--Scribner 16:08, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

text: "excercise"[sic] is spelled exercise.  When you're attacking people at least get the spelling right.--Scribner 07:53, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Contacted the Musicians Union Local 71 today, 8/17/06, regarding David Saks.  They had never heard of him, his songs, or "honors."  In all fairness, they didn't research their files, but they did instantly know an old friend of mine. Reneec, fair warning...the personal attacks will not be tolerated.--Scribner 06:35, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: David, tell us all exactly how you came to be honored by the City Council for the two songs.  Be specific, please.--Scribner 06:34, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

text: No argument here. -- Vary | Talk 14:01, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed--Scribner 14:11, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Agree. - Dozenist talk 15:10, 18 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Hmmmm....Let's close our eyes for a minute and replace the name of Memphis with the names of Houston, Dallas, Atlanta, to name a few. How can you collaborate without expressing your own personal opinions, as referenced above?--70.248.232.236 01:54, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Memphis has problems, but they are not that different than many other similarly-sized North American urban areas.
While there are many urban areas that share these problems, few possess them to the same degree. I mean, only Memphis has the second highest crime rate in the country. Regardless, the problems should be mentioned; they are NOT common knowledge, even amongst residents.
--Dba5 21:09, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please check out the web site for City-Data.com.  It states that Memphis is a pleasant city to live in and has won the award for "Cleanest U.S. City" five time.  While it is not on the list for the 100 Safest U.S. cities, it is also not on the list for the 100 Least Safest cities.  Chattanooga is 41 and Pigeon Forge ranks 47 on the Least Safest city list.--Boodro 21:57, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Did David Saks request the honors or did the City Council come to David Saks?

message: Many citizens agree Memphis is number one in the nation for infant mortality rates and child pedestrian deaths...forth in crime in the nation.  Of course mention is warranted.--Scribner 22:37, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Memphis Mayor Says City is Not Livable or Safe"

message: There is no reason for the article to start with the comment about Memphis not having been the state capital; I have never seen any evidence that there was any credible movement to make it the state capital and hence this is a non-issue.  The Chicago and Los Angeles articles do not begin with speculation as to why they are not the capital cities of Illinois and California respectively; in only about half of U.S. states is the state capital the largest city; in the South this is only the case in Georgia, Arkansas, Mississippi, and Virginia; I assume that one could now add Louisiana in light of the events of the last year.Rlquall 18:20, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, it was unsourced original research. · j e r s y k o talk · 18:32, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I believe the figures are based on actual city population.  Atlanta is bigger than Memphis population-wise if you include the metropolitan area, but Memphis has a larger population in the city proper. · j e r s y k o talk · 00:04, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits 

message: Language link on left for español should point to existing article Memphis (Tennessee) not the non-existent article Memfis (Tennessee). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.81.186.217 (talk • contribs) .
:Fixed, thank you. · j e r s y k o talk · 06:03, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Spanish link

message: Substituted at 21:36, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Hello, I noticed that the under the nickname section of the article does not have a citation. I'm pretty sure Bluff City and the Home of the Blues should have a citation. HabeshaKid (talk) 17:49, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Memphis city nickname citation 

message: The Sister Cities International page doesn't work. Should I remove the section? ElToAn123 (talk) 18:29, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The source probably worked when the editor added it, and probably supported the cities listed when it was added.  If you look around the Sister Cities website you will quickly find this source from 2019, which shows that Memphis no longer belonged to that organization.  I have also been unable to locate any reliable source to support that Memphis currently has any sister cities.  I'd support deleting the section. Magnolia677 (talk) 18:48, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sister Cities International