Talk:Seventh Day Baptists

message: This may have some NPOV problems.  Someone who know about this please review it. --Jzcool
: Well, yes, most of it seems to be written from the perspective of a Seventh Day Baptist rather than a third party reporter or what have you. I've never heard of them before so I can't comment on the accuracy, but based on the deleted text, they sound like a combination of Baptists and Seventh Day Adventists. Was the article so bad it had to be deleted completely?  --Wesley
No, but it was copied from http://www.geocities.com/~sdbnet/who/believe.htm. --Stephen Gilbert
There shouldn't be any NPOV problems, the sources in the article are from valid Baptist sources from outside Seventh Day Baptists, and the references from Don Sanford's book stand as academic research which has not been refuted.  I'm not sure why this article is tagged for having no sources...the four listed on the bottom of the article are all from well respected and various academic religious studies presses.  Is there a way to get that tag removed? Sdbhist 18:52, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV?

message: The Seventh Day Adventist are actually a "splinter" group who separated from the Seventh Day Baptists in the mid-1800's. It took a long time for them not to be considered a cult. Today they have many more churches and are far more commonplace than the Sabbatarians. I am not quoting from references, rather repeating a converstation with a SDA minister. According to him the SDA followers chose to take another path because the SDB values were too liberal! Surprising if you knew how conservative those folks were, and are.
My understanding is that Seventh Day Adventists are directly connected to the Millerite movement. They "discovered" the Sabbath in a discussion with a Seventh Day Baptist, but never considered themselves to be Seventh Day Baptist.
In response to the above:  If we are going to be precise, SDAs were not ever a splinter group from SDBs.  As noted, they were part of the Millerite movement, and encountered the Sabbath through a Seventh Day Baptist woman from the Verona, NY SDB Congregation Rachel Oakes Preston who moved with her daughter to Vermont and participated in a church there.  It is fair to say that SDBs precede SDAs (in fact, by more than 200 years), but to call SDAs a splinter group is probably a bit misleading.--Sdbhist (talk) 15:46, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It was a Seventh Day Baptist, Rachel Oakes Preston, who brought the seventh-day Sabbath understanding to the small Millerite group which became the Seventh-day Adventists in Washington, New Hampshire. Through her influence, Frederick Wheeler became the first Sabbath-keeping Adventist preacher. One family, the Cottrells, looked favorably upon Miller's second advent message but did not join the movement prior to 1844 because it did not acknowledge the seventh-day Sabbath. After a group of Adventists accepted the Sabbath, the Cottrells joined them. Later on in the 1860s and 70s the leadership of the two organizations associated with each other. They recognized their common interest in promoting Sabbath observance. Adventist pioneer, James White, went so far as to advise Adventist preachers not to conduct evangelistic campaigns in the small towns with a Seventh Day Baptist presence. DonaldRichardSands (talk) 03:03, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seventh Day Baptists and Seventh Day Adventists 

message: I have made a change to this page which removed links to a group called The Christ's Assembly.  It was unclear to me about their relationship to Seventh Day Baptists.  Their entry notes that they are an "interdenominational Seventh Day Baptist group."  Without further clarification, that statement seems to be internally contradictory, and not at all consistent with accepted Seventh Day Baptist practices.--Sdbhist (talk) 15:50, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Christ's Assembly?

message: Despite the fact that the author of the article is "quoting"  I think that this section should be rewritten according to the WP:NPOV principle. Cheers, Austral blizzard (talk) 04:36, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Statement of belief NPOV language 

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