Talk:Loituma Girl

message: Besides the shortsighted views of most Wiki editors, it's known that this 1. Originated on 4chan 2. Is a parody of Meatspin (see number 1).  How can we go about finding the original author?  I heard it proposed that the original artist would have the development files, perhaps that could be a way of proof?  Certainly spamming out /f/ would be a way to get their attention... 68.228.20.83 (talk) 23:48, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Finding original creator

message: Hi. I made a homepage (loituma.extra.hu) with the links of remixes and flashes, indicating where I found them. Unfortunately I was unable to track the original locations of most of the links, only a few:
http://dojo.fi/~rancid/loituma__.swf (supposedly, see below)
http://swgalaxies.datastart.hu/modules/Videos/files/vader-loituma.swf (by hunnenkoenig)
http://swgalaxies.datastart.hu/modules/Videos/files/tweener.swf (unsure, but probable)
http://loituma.uw.hu/loitumaamile.gif
http://www.netnebulo.hu/hagyma.swf
http://www.netnebulo.hu/hagyma_diszko.swf
http://www.netnebulo.hu/drunk_loituma.swf
http://www.netnebulo.hu/loituma_clock.swf
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JnXueJR41Vk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CuHWLMZp-dw
http://iaro.srv.hu/kep/lolituma.swf
http://iaro.srv.hu/kep/wookie.swf
http://iaro.srv.hu/kep/zodszar.swf
http://rapidshare.de/files/22663516/osszesloi.swf.html
http://volny.cz/ropucha_3000/hitlatuma.swf (unsure)
http://usteam.hu/pictures/flash/pics/pokus8.swf (unsure)
Can somebody help in tracking the original sources? Thanks!
(Otherwise, Chuck Norrise watched it through. Twice. :)
Frigo 18:36, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Refer to WP:NOR. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snarfies (talk • contribs) 00:38, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text: That page dates from 24 April 2006, http://knd.org.uk/files/loituma__.swf was already linked by 20 April 2006 65.96.121.145 (talk) 23:52, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Source Tracking

message: "The 'Loituma Girl' is a small .swf file that consists of a looping animation of BLEACH character Orihime Inoue, coupled with the middle-eight portion of Ievan Polkka, a Finnish folk song.  First appearing on the Internet in late April of 2006, the .swf animation quickly made the rounds of various message forums and became known as the 'Loituma Girl' when it was apparent that there was no proper name for the .swf file.
The folk song in the animation is played and sung by a Finnish quartet called Loituma, initally formed in 1987, from which the file gets its name."
skorpion 02:28, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved from Article

message: There was already a large section on the flash in the Ievan Polkka article. So I have imported that, added a "Main" template and put the old text here. ViridaeTalk 02:28, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've cleaned up the text a bit and (hopefully) made it a bit easier to read (I just added some paragraph breaks to separate different subjects and edited for clarity).  DarkMasterBob 12:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Noticed that, nice work. I'm not great at that kind of editing. ViridaeTalk 21:56, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reason for move

message: This doesn't deserve it's own article, similiarly if say a song was featured in a different media (for example; a soundtrack to a film or motif in a game), there wouldn't be a seperate article, usual practice would be list under usage of song in media. (14:38, 9 July 2006) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.68.50.120 (talk) 04:39, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Move Back

message: "The 'Loituma Girl' animation was originally created by an anonymous user of the image board 4chan, and posted on the site's flash board[3]. The animation is usually re-posted with the file name "loituma__.swf"."
Is there any proof or 4chan is trying to take credit again? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.14.202.114 (talk) 16:13, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep. In fact, I've now cited a source that says "It took someone somewhere to mash up little Orihime and her spinning leek with Finnish music. That part of the story remains a mystery." Melchoir 03:25, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin

message: The vegetable is a Welsh onion, which is known as negi in Japan. It is definitely not a "leek". Negi is often mistranslated as leek. See Talk:Welsh onion and Talk:Leek. --163.139.215.193 14:58, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, since most of the videos and other locations have called it a leek, I will try and stick a note somewhere that it is a mistranslation. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 19:01, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

text: More likely is that the vegetable is named in the episode the image is taken from. — Saxifrage ✎ 21:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The US dub says leek so, there we go. You can youtube it if you need.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.166.192.243 (talk) 00:25, 3 October 2008 (UTC)

text: I do not know which episode from Bleach it came from (there is a lot of them). User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 22:38, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Episode 2. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.235.83.132 (talk • contribs) August 12, 2006
* I would say it's lemon grass... Slamazzar (talk) 20:43, 15 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Negi, not leek

message: For those of you who were worried that there was no verification of this meme's notability, PRI just today ran a short segment on it. I've cited the transcript a few times; hopefully that puts all fears to rest! Melchoir 03:20, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Verification and notability

message: http://www.netnebulo.hu/loituma_clock.swf
This one is a clock that reads your computer's system time and positions the hands to match. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.136.145.215 (talk) 05:25, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not notable, and WP:NOT a links directory. — Saxifrage ✎ 17:53, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Yet another version

message: In this song there is clearly a part which says put it in your ass in Serbian language. That is quite funny, concidering the fact that girl has a big leek in her hand. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Smorock (talk • contribs) 12:26, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The part that goes (copy/paste it in Microsoft Sam, or another text-to-speech software) "goorney gah ooh doopeh" 91.150.110.3 12:29, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Why is it popular joke in Serbia?

message: Anyone know which Bleach episode the animation frames were taken from? It's been driving me nuts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by AllUltima (talk • contribs) 05:26, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Episode 2. It's like, the first thing she ever does in the series. --tjstrf 05:29, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Which Bleach episode?

message: I read on this article (a while back, now the revision is lost) that it was a parody of meatspin.com, which seems logical, as what the article said about Meatspin was closely resemblant to this (the timer, the spinning, the loop, etc.) Meatspin is down, but still...mayhaps Meatspin was a spoof of Leekspin? ~ Flameviper 16:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's possible. Without a reliable source that says so, though, it would just be speculation that shouldn't be included in the article. — Saxifrage ✎ 22:01, 10 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't think so. Loituma became popular around april or may 2006. To my knowledge meatspin is older than that so it can't be a spoof of Loituma Girl. Also, I don't think leekspin.com is a parody/spoof/fake shock site of meatspin, I think it's only a coincidence (anyway, its owner is always spamming its stupid link on virtually all language editions of wikipedia) Frigo 17:11, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Leekspin is definately a spoof of Meatspin. And I can't claim credit for spamming the link; I think someone else might be bored. Natedubya 07:42, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spoof

message: "In August 2006 German ringtone provider Jamba! began selling a collection of media based on the animation, which caused some uproar in the internet community.[citation needed]"
I won't represent an international view, but may show the citations in russian internet community: [], [], []. I think that should be enough to remove the "citation needed" markup though may be insufficient to use these links in the article, as the articles are in Russian.
Honeyman 22:55, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, unfortunately non-English sources are weak in the English encyclopedia. Might there be an English source that talks about the uproar in the Russian internet community? — Saxifrage ✎ 16:22, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ... uproar in the internet community

message: There are currently ringtone ads in Belgium (and maybe other Benelux countries) featuring a rather poorly drawn imitation of the original Loituma Girl animation, but with the usual audio.--Caustic Armadillo 16:54, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a references to the video of the one being played in The Netherlands, which I suspect is the same.  I could not find the content on either the Jamba or Ringtoneking ('competing' companies but in reality both owned by the same parent company) websites - so the video is one that has been captured and placed on YouTube.  I suspect that content will disappear easily with time.  I'm not sure about the copyright limitations in this case, but if an image for illustrative/comparison purposes to the original is 'fair use', somebody feel free to take a still of the capture and add it to the article. 83.84.36.96 14:00, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm confused, for those ringtone company thingies, did they break the copyright of Shonen Jump and Loituma? Did they get permission? Did they get it from YouTube? The ConundrumerTC 05:33, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, an editor removed the reference citing copyright violations - I agree that the very article discusses something that -is- a clear copyright violation of both a piece of animation from an Anime, and from a song.  Whatever.  I've now added a reference to an ad that uses the same western image (sorry, not animated) from the provider itself - so it's clearly fair to link to it as the only copyright they would violate would be their own. ZeBoxx 18:08, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

text: *The original cartoon meme isn't a copyright violation; both the song and the 4 frames of animation are clear fair use, even ignoring parody law.  However, once commercialized, they are no longer fair use, which leads me to suspect the company either is paying royalties or is just ignoring copyright law. —Dark•Shikari[T] 04:12, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Another ringtone ripoff

message: I put the Good Article nomination for this Loituma Girl on hold until a couple things are cleared up.
*There are a few minor MOS-related issues, with things such as periods in captions that aren't complete sentences, lack of proper capitalization in a few places (such as with flash animation instead of Flash animation), etc.
*Although this isn't a Good Article requirement, I feel like there is quite a bit of superfluous information. For example, it is unnecessary to tell readers what a leek is, when the animation of the girl twirling a leek is in the article and when a Wikilink is provided, much less do they need to know how to say "leek" in Japanese.
*I'm not sure about the image license on the animated gif. It claims to be a screenshot of an anime, but I don't think animations count as screenshots. Also, the image caption is not very good.
Aside from these things, I think this article should qualify for being a Good Article under Wikipedia's standard's. – Dok(talk|contribs) 06:39, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe I've done the cleanup bits you suggested. The negi is technically a separate species from the leek, though the difference is pretty minor, so a more accurate sentence might be that she is twirling a "negi, a Japanese vegetable closely related to the leek". I can't find any guideline regarding animated gifs, but I believe it qualifies as a tv screenshot since it is a sequence of 4 tv screenshots being cycled and the only other way to show the information would be to take all 4 screenshots and lay them out separately. --tjstrf talk 16:46, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Negi are scallions, not leeks. Not sure why the article you linked to doesn't mention that, since the scallion article links to it. Doceirias 04:05, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

text: What is the status here? Contact the reviewer. This article has been on hold too long. IvoShandor 07:55, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Failed GA; the article has been on hold for over seven days.  Please relist if issues are addressed.  Mike Christie (talk) 22:26, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Good Article nomination

message: I added the link to the German Extra TV spot, but I don't know if Wrigley's will keep it up for too long, so somebody might want to find another one. 72.223.123.144 12:09, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  German Extra Spot 

message: There is a Loituma Girl video game for Nintendo DS. It has more anime characters other then just Orihime Inoue. It's kind of simple though. All you do is press on the diffrent characters and you see them spinning a negi. I don't know everything about this game since I don't have it but it seems appropriate to put. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.85.13.83 (talk) 23:23, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, it's at http://dl.qj.net/Loituma-Girl-DS-v1.0-Nintendo-DS/pg/12/fid/11837/catid/220... I'm playing it now. :P Celarnor 12:12, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video Game 

message: I just noticed the site is down at the moment. Does anybody know if it will be back up, or is it permanatly down?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Budster650 (talk • contribs) 00:28, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Currently Down 

message: Why is this listed and meatspin isn't? Meatspin was much more popular and came first.71.124.237.26 (talk) 01:44, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there sources attesting to that? Everything here is supposed to be source-based. -GTBacchus(talk) 01:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He's right. No source and I doubt one exists but he's right. :D\=< (talk) 00:50, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Note: I had to put an extra whitespace into all occurences of meatspin .com to bypass WP's troll filter. Leekspin would not make sense without meatspin being there before (meatspin dot com - go there at your own risk). Some evidence:
Domain registration of meatspin .com:
 
 Whois Server Version 2.0
 
 Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
 with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
 for detailed information.
 
    Domain Name: MEATSPIN .COM
    Registrar: WILD WEST DOMAINS, INC.
    Whois Server: whois.wildwestdomains.com
    Referral URL: http://www.wildwestdomains.com
    Name Server: NS1.STRATMARKETINGLLC.COM
    Name Server: NS2.STRATMARKETINGLLC.COM
    Status: clientDeleteProhibited
    Status: clientRenewProhibited
    Status: clientTransferProhibited
    Status: clientUpdateProhibited
    Updated Date: 11-mar-2009
    Creation Date: 10-mar-2005
    Expiration Date: 10-mar-2010
 
 >>> Last update of whois database: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:26:58 UTC <<<
 
 NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the 
 registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is 
 currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration 
 date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring 
 registrar.  Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to 
 view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.
 
 
 The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and
 Registrars.The data contained in this Registrar's Whois database, 
 while believed by the registrar to be reliable, is provided "as is"
 with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy. This information 
 is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you in obtaining 
 information about domain name registration records. Any use of
 this data for any other purpose is expressly forbidden without
 the prior written permission of this registrar.  By submitting an
 inquiry, you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty.
 In particular, you agree not to use this data to allow, enable, or
 otherwise make possible, dissemination or collection of this data, in 
 part or in its entirety, for any purpose, such as the transmission of 
 unsolicited advertising and solicitations of any kind, including spam. 
 You further agree not to use this data to enable high volume, automated 
 or robotic electronic processes designed to collect or compile this data 
 for any purpose, including mining this data for your own personal or 
 commercial purposes.
 
 Please note: the owner of the domain name is specified in the "registrant" field. 
 In most cases, the Registrar is not the owner of domain names listed in this database.
 
 
 Registrant:
    Domains by Proxy, Inc.
    DomainsByProxy.com
    15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
    Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
    United States
 
    Registered through: Live Domain Names 
    Domain Name: MEATSPIN .COM
       Created on: 10-Mar-05
       Expires on: 10-Mar-10
       Last Updated on: 11-Mar-09
 
    Administrative Contact:
       Private, Registration  MEATSPIN .COM@domainsbyproxy.com
       Domains by Proxy, Inc.
       DomainsByProxy.com
       15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
       Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
       United States
       (480) 624-2599
 
    Technical Contact:
       Private, Registration  MEATSPIN .COM@domainsbyproxy.com
       Domains by Proxy, Inc.
       DomainsByProxy.com
       15111 N. Hayden Rd., Ste 160, PMB 353
       Scottsdale, Arizona 85260
       United States
       (480) 624-2599
 
    Domain servers in listed order:
       NS1.STRATMARKETINGLLC.COM
       NS2.STRATMARKETINGLLC.COM
 
Domain registration of leekspin.com:
 
 Whois Server Version 2.0
 
 Domain names in the .com and .net domains can now be registered
 with many different competing registrars. Go to http://www.internic.net
 for detailed information.
 
    Domain Name: LEEKSPIN.COM
    Registrar: GODADDY.COM, INC.
    Whois Server: whois.godaddy.com
    Referral URL: http://registrar.godaddy.com
    Name Server: NS21.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
    Name Server: NS22.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
    Status: clientDeleteProhibited
    Status: clientRenewProhibited
    Status: clientTransferProhibited
    Status: clientUpdateProhibited
    Updated Date: 04-may-2009
    Creation Date: 03-may-2006
    Expiration Date: 03-may-2010
 
 >>> Last update of whois database: Mon, 01 Jun 2009 09:28:15 UTC <<<
 
 NOTICE: The expiration date displayed in this record is the date the 
 registrar's sponsorship of the domain name registration in the registry is 
 currently set to expire. This date does not necessarily reflect the expiration 
 date of the domain name registrant's agreement with the sponsoring 
 registrar.  Users may consult the sponsoring registrar's Whois database to 
 view the registrar's reported date of expiration for this registration.
 
 
 The Registry database contains ONLY .COM, .NET, .EDU domains and
 Registrars.The data contained in GoDaddy.com, Inc.'s WhoIs database,
 while believed by the company to be reliable, is provided "as is"
 with no guarantee or warranties regarding its accuracy.  This
 information is provided for the sole purpose of assisting you
 in obtaining information about domain name registration records.
 Any use of this data for any other purpose is expressly forbidden without the prior written
 permission of GoDaddy.com, Inc.  By submitting an inquiry,
 you agree to these terms of usage and limitations of warranty.  In particular,
 you agree not to use this data to allow, enable, or otherwise make possible,
 dissemination or collection of this data, in part or in its entirety, for any
 purpose, such as the transmission of unsolicited advertising and
 and solicitations of any kind, including spam.  You further agree
 not to use this data to enable high volume, automated or robotic electronic
 processes designed to collect or compile this data for any purpose,
 including mining this data for your own personal or commercial purposes. 
 
 Please note: the registrant of the domain name is specified
 in the "registrant" field.  In most cases, GoDaddy.com, Inc. 
 is not the registrant of domain names listed in this database.
 
 
 Registrant:
    Blank Industries
    555 Dontcallme St
    South Arabia, Utah 44910
    United States
 
    Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
    Domain Name: LEEKSPIN.COM
       Created on: 03-May-06
       Expires on: 03-May-10
       Last Updated on: 04-May-09
 
    Administrative Contact:
       Whiteside, Nathan  nate_dubya@sluggy.net
       Blank Industries
       10684 S. Shilling Ave
       South Jordan, Utah 84095
       United States
       (630) 379-4605
 
    Technical Contact:
       Whiteside, Nathan  nate_dubya@sluggy.net
       Blank Industries
       10684 S. Shilling Ave
       South Jordan, Utah 84095
       United States
       (630) 379-4605
 
    Domain servers in listed order:
       NS21.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
       NS22.DOMAINCONTROL.COM
 
The relevant dates are:
* meatspin:        Created on: 10-Mar-05
* leekspin:        Created on: 03-May-06
Also, look at the Internet Archive:
* http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://meatspin .com
* http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://leekspin.com
As archive.org does not archive rich media, you can only go by (strong) circumstantial evidence from the javascript:
* http://web.archive.org/web/20051125024511/http://www.meatspin .com/
PS: Don't ask me why I even care about this, I don't know either.
-- RichiH (talk) 09:40, 1 June 2009 (UTC)

text: So I don't care that much about meatspin not having its own article, but this one should at least mention that for many people leekspin was seen as a less-disgusting version of the same concept. While there is no evidence that leekspin is directly based on meatspin (even though it seems pretty obvious to me) there at least has to be evidence of people connecting the two. KhalfaniKhaldun 07:53, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meatspin 

message: An editor has suggested that this article does not meet GA criteria. Pleae feel free to comment at the Good Article review page. Majoreditor (talk) 13:20, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Review

message: Is the segment really just gibberish, or is it translateable?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.70.207 (talk) 05:00, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's meaningless. --Kizor 17:17, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:   
    Eàtsa Tsa Parelì Parelà Landì Parelì Landì Standù 
    Larì Pidapilà Larù Padirù Pirà 
    Anguricangù Caeachiridangù! 
    Aràtsa tsa Earibidabidì Laberìt Standìl Landèl Landò 
    Abarì Pattà Parì Parì Paripiripiripiri Standèl Landò! 
    Eabarì Làstel Landè Ialò Eabarebereberebudu Iabù 
    Parì Standèl Lastèl Landò Badàche Dàche Dàche Du Du Deheadò!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.80.116.24 (talk) 14:02, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Gibberish?

message: I think this should be merged with Orihime Inoue, since it is relevant to her article and will simply make that article even better and easier to keep. - A Link to the Past (talk) 13:58, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, but I think the link should still be kept in the 'Bleach by Tite Kubo' box  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.67.178.24 (talk) 20:41, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge? 

message: The link to the flash is broken.60.234.145.201 (talk) 03:31, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  quoth the server, 404 

message: hello everyone!  entering "Loituma Girl" in the Nintendo DS game Scribblenauts generates a red-haired girl spinning a leek, a la this meme.  this might fit under the commercialization section of the article, but I'm not really sure.  it's probably just trivia (and therefore not appropriate for wikipedia, yes?). 
...heh, I'm now noticing this talk page hasn't been touched in a year. xD  oh well, it's information to consider adding if this ever becomes interesting again. 67.222.201.194 (talk) 16:31, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scribblenauts? 

message: Anyone going to say anything about the obvious homage to this dance in the upcoming Phineas and Ferb special 'Summer Belongs To You' during the JPOP music video? http://phineasandferb.wikia.com/wiki/JPOP_(Welcome_to_Tokyo)
Mew Mitsuki (talk) 21:02, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phineas and Ferb 

message: How is this relevant at all, yet you guys have yet to make a mention of mudkips being the greatest thing since sliced bread? Also thank you for perpetuating the degradation of a great band. Probably the reason they neglected to make more music. 2602:306:837C:50F0:0:0:0:49 (talk) 02:15, 23 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does this exist? 

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