Talk:Stelle, Illinois

message: There are a very limited amount of references or sources about Stelle, Illinois, as it is a small community and has not been the subject of much study.  If the Wikipedia rules were to be strictly applied, most of the article would not exist.  However, most of the residents of Stelle know of the page's existence and can therefore correct any possible bias.  Until a scholarly article or book is written about Stelle discussing it in any depth, which is unlikely, that is the best that can be done.  In my view, it is better than nothing at all.  Pastoralist (talk) 03:58, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I recall the "Time" article from 1973.  Highly inaccurate, then and now, but still part of the historical record.Apostle12 (talk) 19:39, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  No references or sources! 

message: Hi Pastoralist.  Noticed your recent edit, most of which seem all to the good, especially your reduction of the promotional tone of the "Stelle, Illinois" article and maintenance of NPOV.  Did notice a couple of problems, and took the liberty to change some things.
-You wrote "...secret organizations thousands of years old called the 'Brotherhoods'."  For this to be correct, however, it would have to read "...secret organizations, thousands of years old, called the 'Brotherhoods'."  Seems a bit halting.  So I substituted "...ancient, secretive organizations called the 'Brotherhoods'."   I believe "ancient" adequately conveys that the Brotherhoods are thousands of years old, and this  sounds cleaner to me.
-You wrote "Stelle also boasts a community garden co-op, a Monday night dinner co-op and, until recently, maintained a learning co-op for young children."  As written, "maintained" would have to become a second predicate after "boasts," though the sentence is not written that way.  If we eliminate "maintained" the sentence becomes simpler with "boasts" acting on all three "co-ops."  Hence the change to "Stelle also boasts a community garden co-op, a Monday night dinner co-op and, until recently, a learning co-op for young children." 
-You wrote "Until recently many properties in Stelle were on the market, but in the last two years all available homes have been purchased, though several lots remain for expansion."  Some redundancy with the two "until recently"'s in close proximity.  Also, this statement may be true at this particular moment (though the Stelle Community web site does list two properties for sale--107 Sun St. and 134B Tamarind Court), but other properties may come on the market at any time.  Might it be better to keep the general statement, as per the previous edit?--"Occasionally an existing home will come on the market, and fully developed lots are availabe for new home construction."  Made the change; please let me know what you think. 
-Made a couple of other very minor changes, "which" to "that" and so on. 
All the other changes do enhance the encylopedic quality of the article. Really love that about Wikipedia; the team effort keeps making things better. Hope my revisions to your revisions seem appropriate.  Thanks. Founders4 10:53, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some revisions to recent edit 

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replies: text: An appropriate template has been added.--Tim Thomason 02:23, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Stelle entrance.jpg

message: So far I've been able to track down at least one "scholarly" article that discusses, at least in part, the community of Stelle. I haven't read it myself, but for someone so inclined, it may provide some reliable information and a means of adding some reputable references to the article:
Title :	  	Builders of the dawn: the network of new-age communities. 	
Author :	  	McLaughlin, Corinne; Davidson, Gordon. 	
Source :	  	The Futurist, vol. 19, pp. 31-5, August 1985 	
ISSN   :     	        0016-3317  
Abstract: Adapted from Builders of the Dawn: Community Lifestyles in a Changing World. A new kind of intentional "community" is developing worldwide, experimenting with alternative ways of solving economic, social, and ecological problems while fostering self-reliance, a cooperative spirit, and personal growth. Although they share methods and values, these communities are by no means identical. Some have spiritual purposes, while others embrace educational or scientific goals; some are cooperative households, while others resemble traditional villages. Informal networks connect the communities, providing information and support and sometimes exchanges of labor or funds. A sidebar briefly profiles Alpha Farm in Oregon; Twin Oaks; Stelle in Illinois; Chinook in Washington; Sirius in Massachusetts; Findhorn in Scotland; and Sempas in Yugoslavia.
cheers  Deconstructhis (talk) 05:58, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm looking into this. I haven't yet paid a visit to Stelle, but it does seem to be quite unique in its intentional community character. I added a sourced blurb in a new section about the Transition Towns angle. I wish someone from the Stelle community would objectively fix the history section of this article. I'm sure there is more to Stelle than has to do with Mr. Kieninger. • Q^#o • 03:53, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Published material regarding Stelle 

message: I doubt it. 
Stelle's population was already down to 90 in 2007 (source.
"Few new adults younger than middle age have moved to Stelle. Almost all young adults leave Stelle permanently after high school, the population has aged greatly and the median age was 53 in 2008." (source)
Five out of 44 homesteads are for sale or rent by now. (source).
- 84.175.183.164 (talk) 14:19, 28 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Estimated Population 101 (as of 2012) 

message: This wiki article reads like a marketing campaign for the community.  I seriously question whether it contains any verifiable, unbiased information of any value. Soul schizm (talk) 05:30, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nothing but a promotional pamphlet