Talk:Cunt/Archive 2

message: I have obvious anxieties about the inclusion of the 'c' word in an encyclopaedia, and am uneasy at the propect of it being accessible to younger people. However, since it is here, I wonder if there would be any value in mentioning neologisms created through concatenation of the word with other nouns, as these are increasingly entering common usage. These might include, for example, cuntflaps, cunthead, cuntcock, cuntpiece, cuntface, cuntsmell, cuntlips, cuntstitch, cuntbuttock, cuntfanny, cuntchuckle, cuntfight, cunteyes, cuntkissies, cuntapple (can also be used with other fruit-types), cuntbricks, cuntsounds, cuntsauce, cuntcushion, cuntfiller, cuntcuddle, cuntmeet, cuntdown etc.
I've also heard the word used increasingly as an adjective, such as cunting, cunted, cuntish, cuntfuelled, cunty, cuntled, cuntesque.
What do other people think about this? BennyFromCrossroads 22:38, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Use of a word cunt in Neologisms and as an adjective

message: I think that "cunt" means a kind of rock music. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mewtwowimmer (talk • contribs) 20:38, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a matter of opinion, but is the word "cunt" really more offensive in the US than the word "nigger"?71.118.48.179 19:18, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I don't think that "cunt" is a bad word 

message: I have no references to this, but I'm aware of a term used in pre-20th Century England that is relevant to this article. The term is 'cunny pocket', and is a euphemism for the vagina when used as a smuggling device. Using the vagina for smuggling contraband was considered an effective method before body cavity searches were considered decent or necessary practice by customs employees. Misterduffy 20:30, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition to pre-20th Century Usage 

message: I think this article is of sufficiently high quality to be nominated as a Featured Article. What do others think? 87.112.91.133 15:37, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that even if this were the most perfectly researched and brilliantly written article on Wikipedia, it would never become featured simply because of its name. Paul B 17:36, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I reckon this is the most perfectly researched and brilliantly written article on Wikipedia. Paul's still right, of course. Sentence of the year: "Calling someone a cunt is generally considered impolite". William Bowe 09:21, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It would get featured article, it just would never get main page. In any case, this is no where near featured status- not nearly enough references, and the sections could do with a shakeup. J Milburn 16:00, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Are you cunts fair dinkum? This article is badly written, full of original research, and lacks sources. It's all over the shop. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.18.241.193 (talk) 01:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  THis could be a Featured Article 

message: My father once said that long ago the word "kunt" was used to refer to
some sort of sheath in which to place a dagger, sword or some other weapon. It would be good to add some academic reference to the word and see what comes
out of it. Please do some research and update as necessary. Thankyou
It is also ironic how the traditional usage of the work "cunt" -- meaning vagina
is sometimes referred as an "axe wound", possibly linking the work kunt in its
"sheath" meaning to the "axe wound".
Can somebody do some research and update. 
Blashyrk 04:00, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your father was on the right track, but it was actually the politically correct "vagina" that means "sheath formed round a stem by the base of a leaf [from the Latin: meaning sheath, scabbard]" according to the Oxford Concise English Dictionary.  M. Frederick 04:22, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possibility of reference to a sheath in old scottish warfare 

message: Sadly, since the article's semi-protected and I can't remember my previous username, I'll plonk my suggestion here, for what it's worth.
In the section on use in various countries, such as the reference to Shaun of the Dead in the section on the UK, perhaps the sentence, "This lassy got glassed and no cunt leaves here until we find out what cunt did it." from Trainspotting, uttered by Begbie (a frequent user of the word) should appear in the Scottish section.
Just a thought. Over and out. Discussion very welcome.
GentianHush 19:24, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use by Begbie in Trainspotting 

message: It is actually rude to say someone is a cunt in New Zealand, unlike what the article says, for i live in New Zealand, so don't try using it in an "affectionate" way EVER in New Zealand, IT WILL NOT END NICELY.
Agreed - and ditto for Australia.
:1) sign your comments with 4 tildes ~, 2)I am australian and I really have used cunt affectionately. WookMuff 21:29, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, you are wrong. It is not in everyday use but it still is used. Just because you haven't said it doesn't mean its not true, thats a form of OR WookMuff 10:41, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm a new zealander, and I've used it plenty of times as an affectionate term. So have lots of my mates (including females) - Mutant 13:51, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm an Aussie (for some reason I believe that needs to be clarified here :) ) and although I have used pretty much all the above examples at one time or another, the word itself doesn't have widely accepted usage. For example, I may greet my brother with "Hey cunt" on a regular basis, I wouldn't use it in a public forum because it's not appropriate. I think the general tone of this article is misleading in that it seems to indicate that it's common to use these examples. It's not. It's a rare thing, and when it is used it's not used in public (generally). "followed by a long string of chanting "CuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCunt" upon his entrance to any room." This sentence, can someone back that up with some evidence? I have NEVER heard of that usage. Klytos 02:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Word Cunt Is Not Considered A Word To Be Used Affectionately In New Zealand 

message: ====Here are some Aussie examples====
* Sick cunt - Good Bloke
* Tough cunt - Someone who acts tough, but isn't
* Hard cunt - Good fighter, good rugby player
* Mad cunt - Funny Guy, someone you can bludge money off
* Funny cunt - Good sense of humour
* Sick cunt - Similar to mad cunt
* Big cunt - Body builder or just solid
* Dumb Cunt - Someone who lacks common sense or is just plain dumb - Not to be used affectionately.
* Dead cunt - Threaten Someone before they get there head bashed in - Not to be used affectionately. 
* Doughy cunt - Those whom lack general knowledge AdamCassar 10:22, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm an Aussie (for some reason I believe that needs to be clarified here :) ) and although I have used pretty much all the above examples at one time or another, the word itself doesn't have widely accepted usage. For example, I may greet my brother with "Hey cunt" on a regular basis, I wouldn't use it in a public forum because it's not appropriate. I think the general tone of this article is misleading in that it seems to indicate that it's common to use these examples. It's not. It's a rare thing, and when it is used it's not used in public (generally). "followed by a long string of chanting "CuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCunt" upon his entrance to any room." This sentence, can someone back that up with some evidence? I have NEVER heard of that usage. Klytos 02:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Affectionate use of the word cunt

message: * Sick cunt - Good Bloke
* Tough cunt - Someone who acts tough, but isn't
* Hard cunt - Good fighter, good rugby player
* Mad cunt - Funny Guy, someone you can bludge money off
* Funny cunt - Good sense of humour
* Sick cunt - Similar to mad cunt
* Big cunt - Body builder or just solid
* Dumb Cunt - Someone who lacks common sense or is just plain dumb - Not to be used affectionately.
* Dead cunt - Threaten Someone before they get there head bashed in - Not to be used affectionately. 
* Doughy cunt - Those whom lack general knowledge AdamCassar 10:22, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm an Aussie (for some reason I believe that needs to be clarified here :) ) and although I have used pretty much all the above examples at one time or another, the word itself doesn't have widely accepted usage. For example, I may greet my brother with "Hey cunt" on a regular basis, I wouldn't use it in a public forum because it's not appropriate. I think the general tone of this article is misleading in that it seems to indicate that it's common to use these examples. It's not. It's a rare thing, and when it is used it's not used in public (generally). "followed by a long string of chanting "CuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCuntCunt" upon his entrance to any room." This sentence, can someone back that up with some evidence? I have NEVER heard of that usage. Klytos 02:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Here are some Aussie examples

message: I joined the US Army in 1978 and was issued a garrison cap to be worn with either Class A or B uniforms ("A" so-called Dress Greens; "B" so-called Khakis). The Service (so-called bus driver's) cap was an option purchase item which was phased out sometime over the next ten years. The 'cunt-cap' was later superceded by the black beret.
Further elaboration on uniform types and classes:
The Dress Green unifor was (and may still be) the Class A worn with white shirt and black bowtie in lieu of the Dress Blue uniform, which is (for most personnel) an optional purchase item. The original khaki uniform was a tropical-wool blend with either a long sleeve shirt and tie, or a short sleeve shirt. The khakis issued to me were of a perma-press material with short sleeves only. The original had been phased out prior to my enlistment, and the latter was replaced by the grey-green shirt during my enlistment. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 208.125.37.157 (talk) 15:28, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Also in use in the United States Armed Forces

message: Please see the following link for further discussion of this word's etymology: http://www.blogmark.co.za/index.php?q=node/4789  Of course, we must not overlook the meaning this word has today; but I don't think it hurts to be forthright about its origins. Interestingly, I see Barbara Walker's "The Woman's Encyclopedia" was mentioned in the Refenences section but not in the article.  I wonder if another user attempted to cite Walker and clarify the word's origins, only to have her factual contributions promptly deleted. M. Frederick 04:02, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymological Accuracy 

message: I'm surprised there's not a reference to George Carlin's list of the "Seven Words You Can't Say On Television".
Piss, Shit, Fuck, Cunt, Motherfucker, Cocksucker, and Tits.  
At least the first and the last have been on broadcast TV since then, but I've not heard the middle five.  
There could also be further references to The Vagina Monologues and uses therein.
Thanks for listening.
dan@riverofdata.com —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.117.243.112 (talk) 03:48, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Clearly you don't get Channel 4. --LiamE 04:15, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  cunt as one of the seven words 

message: Please keep the discussions on track or they will be deleted if they do not address improving this article. Please do not attack other users and keep the conversation WP:CIVIL. Morenooso 04:18, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reminder - this is a talkpage for improving this article (not a chat forum) 

message: "[...]or the Proto-Indo-European root *gwneH2/guneH2 = "woman" seen in gynaecology." ~ What is "*gwneH2/guneH2"?  This could be some kind of phonetic transcription, but if so it's one I've never heard of.  I would assume that it's some problem with the formatting, but obviously I can't correct it myself because I haven't the slightest idea what it's meant to mean.
"The earliest citation of this usage, circa 1230, is in the Oxford English Dictionary, referring to the London street known as "Gropecunt Lane"; as the word "cunt" has been incorporated into the colloquial and technical speech of nautical and other occupational traditions." ~ The semicolon (;) should be used to link two complete sentences that share a theme or idea.  The section after the semicolon here is not a complete sentence, and doesn't seem to refer directly to the first section.  I would correct this myself, but I can't work out what the second section is trying to say. Branfish 03:48, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A couple of issues 

message: I found no references to this comment being made by George Bush, and it is not specified which George Bush said this.
: Probably vandalism - seems to be fixed --h2g2bob (talk) 04:34, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: George Bush comment?

message: In this article, you could have a list of people either politicians of celebs that are considered to be what the title of the article is.
* who
* who else
* living ones
* decesed ones
* the list goes on
* and who else would be on the list.
Mindys12345 04:13, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We already have such a list: see List of people. --h2g2bob (talk) 04:34, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I will have closer look later. Mindys12345 04:38, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: List of

message: The entry about Silence of the Lambs is nonsensical. It mentions that in the Director's Cut you can hear the line by the prisoner "Migs", but that it is edited out in broadcast versions, and it seems to allude to the fact that the line was originally left ambiguous because of the vulgarity of the term. That's nonsense, because in the same scene Lector asks Starling what Migs said, and she forthrightly spits it out "I can smell your cunt". Why is it such a big deal that the line is more intelligable in the Director's Cut when Migs says it- in fact, as a device, its more effective that you hear it the first time from Starling.
At any rate, the entire passage is irrelevant, untrue, illogical, unsourced and does not add to the article. So I'm removing it, following the lead of other contributors I've witnessed here to remove anything they deem to be unworthy or invalid. Raphaelaarchon 18:55, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Silence of the Lambs

message: Under "puns", worth adding that in the Sex Pistols' 1977 hit "Pretty Vacant", the accent and emphasis is clearly and strongly on the last syllable.
You could also note the ska band from Newcastle, Australia originally called the "Pork Hunts".  At around the time of their first single they changed their name to "The Porkers", with the subtitle "Tired of being Pork Hunts".  At some stage they reverted to "Pork Hunts", but I don't know if that was because of success or the lack of it.
Adelaide had a band called "Cunning Stunts", who had some trouble securing gigs, even though the name was a spoonerism and not a pun.  This was some time before the Metallica album of the same name was released.
And The Goodies had an episode called "Cunning Stunts", episode 10 Series 5.--In no sense nonsense 10:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Country. A slight misinflection on the wiord Constable (though that copuld rightly get you arrested), the nuances are endless but unless they are source4d they dont go in the article and if they are they certainly can, SqueakBox 19:22, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sex Pistols 

message: I would like to suggest that the English use of the word is almost identical to the Scottish and Irish usage, especially in terms of referring to someone not currently present. I would also like to mention that the usage in affectionate instances requires affection or familiarity to exist in the first place, for it to be taken that way. I would like to see the section be edited to encompass this. 
One must consider the many forms of speech that exist in England, and to blanket the entire country as one would be an oversight. Not simply in terms of the North, the Midlands, and the South; there are numerous variations. 
Possibly repackage the section as Usage in the UK, including the Irish and Scottish examples, mentioned in direct reference to Ireland and Scotland. DigitalPsyche 13:34, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Usage in England 

message: Please add the two closing square brackets so the link will work.
:Done. VirtualDelight 18:20, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  typo in link for vulva at the end of Usage in the United States 

message: I would like someone to add "Cunt Oath!". It is a very popular phrase in country areas in Australia, it means 'Yes, definately!". For example, "Can I buy you another beer?", "Cunt oath mate!"
:Why not add it yourself, whoever you are?  (And please remember to sign your comments.)  Rodparkes 02:32, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another use 

message: The section "Breaking Taboo" in the current version of the article is rather disjointed; it lists a number of movies that use the word but many of them are from the 1990s or later like Glengarry Glen Ross (film) and Trainspotting (film). Why are those movies even mentioned in this section? There is a thread on the imdb forums that lists some of the early films to use the word:
*The Boys in the Band
*Diary of a Mad Housewife
*Five Easy Pieces
*Carnal Knowledge (film)
These all were released in the early 1970s, prior to The Exorcist. --Mathew5000 01:47, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  earliest uses of the word in Hollywood movies 

message: I have removed the (fact) tag that had been placed in the middle of the first sentance. The whole sentance is linked to a source which states that cunt is a vulgar term  for the female sex organs. It seems that an editor has doubts about the use of the word, feeling, i believe, that the word refers to the external genitalia only, and not the vagina.  Looking at vagina however it informs us that in English the word vagina is incorrectly frequently used to refer to entire area; vagina and vulva. We brits are, perhaps, a bit vague about about "down there" (ask any british woman!) and in common speech don't differentiate between the vulva and the vagina. It seems strange to believe that we are too ignorant to use the polite word correctly, yet are able to differentiate when swearing: outside of medical dictionaries cunt, pussy, twat and vagina all refer to exactly the same area of the female body. IdreamofJeanie 21:32, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This has already been dealt with by Squeakbox. ScarianTalk 21:35, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  vagina tagging 

message: Forgive me for shoving my interest in here (Ooh, err, Missus) but when I linked to this article from elsewhere (you really don't need to know) my immediate impressions were that (a) there's a lot of good stuff here, but (b) it's a bit disorganised particularly when it comes (Purrr-lease!) to media references. I've taken the liberty of beginning a revamp of this, in which all modern uses of "cunt" n the media are on one section and can be accessed, if necessary, from elsewhere in WP. If you really don't like it, feel free to revert it. --Rodhullandemu 03:38, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rework 

message: Listeners is misspelled as listens.71.165.140.114 06:01, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling error

message:  hopiakuta  Please do  sign  your  signature  on your  message.  %7e%7e   Thank You. - 13:35, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  There  do seem to be some k[[punctuation]]-omissions, such as [[ quotation]]s. 

message: * Berk - short for "Berkeley Hunt". "Berkshire Hunt".
*The English slang word, "berk", is a contraction of "Berkeley Hunt", which in turn refers to the English vulgarity, "cunt". (The usage is dated to the 1930s)<ref>Cassell's Dictionary of Slang. Jonathon Green. Pub. Cassel & Co. ISBN 0-304-35167-9</ref> This is an example of Cockney rhyming slang. The "berk" in Berkeley is pronounced to rhyme with "bark", whereas the Cockney pronunciation of the slang term, as with the American English pronunciation, rhymes with "work".
Is there any info. as to why  Berkshire  &  Berkeley%2c_Gloucestershire,  Berkeley  would be  vaginal, or  Cockney??
When I hear stories about  Larry Edwin Craig, I often think of  I%27d a ho, frequently hear of Governor  Clement Leroy  Otter, nicknamed  Butch_Otter.
* < http://google.as/search?q=%22butch+otter%22+%22beaver%22+%22clement+leroy+otter%22+%22%22 >.
 wiktionary : clement  is  mild;  wiktionary : inclement  is  stormy,  merciless,  Wet_Wet_Wet.
 hopiakuta  Please do  sign  your  signature  on your  message.  %7e%7e   Thank You. - 13:35, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[ country ]] [[ berk ]]