Talk:Violin technique

message: What do you think about merging the article how to play the violin with this one? J Lorraine 07:15, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The very question I was thinking of last night. That article is kind of skimpy, but does note the basic hand position that makes an A major scale on the A & E (or G on the bottom two. I plan to put a chart on this page of some other such patterns, starting with low 2nd finger... five in all.) How does one "merge a page?" I assume there's a way to have the "How to..." article redirect to this one. Just plain Bill 14:49, 6 January 2006 (UTC)

message: While I'm at it, I intend to include brief mention of groups tuning their A to something other than 440. That doesn't need to burden the Violin article, but I think it's appropriate to mention it here. For the skeptics, here's some light and entertaining reading:
1. Wikipedia article on Pitch
2. Interesting graph of historical pitches
3. "...some instruments are now manufactured to play at 442 Hz. since it has become so common in orchestral work."
4. Piano tuners might not like going above 440.
5. In fact, they hate it.
6. Guitarist sees modern electronic keyboards at 441 or 442.
7. Some saxes and clarinets made with 442 in mind.
8. Chief Steinway tech meets prima donna oboist. Berlin Phil at 446 under von Karajan.
9. Midori's agent requests 442.
10. Pipe major sees bands trying to tune to 440 or 442.
11. Vocabulary: does "concert pitch" mean "non-transposing" or is it to do with freq of A?
12. Find "anarchist xenophobes" on this page. ;-)
Just plain Bill 19:34, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Various pitch standards 

message: I've now cast that as more of a myth, since I haven't been able to find an authoritative source for the quote itself. Enough different versions of it can be found by searching for "Heifetz" +"intonation" +"quicker" or some variation, and sifting through the results. Wherever I have seen this notion, it has always been attributed to him. Does anybody know? __ Just plain Bill 16:12, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  that Heifetz quote 

message: When attempting to find this article I looked under "Violin technique", perhaps because I'm a conservatory snob (...in voice, but still). Should that be the title of this article, or a redirect here? Opinions? Mak (talk) 18:51, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, good idea. At least a redirect. --Quadalpha 03:08, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article title

message: It's not a "buzz," but a two-note chord, if you actually listen to it, and the frequency accuracy of it is good enough for rock and roll. I've used it a number of times when another reference was not available. I've seen others do the same. May have saved me from breaking a string a time or two. I read the dial tone article as well, and the statement that 
 "An experienced guitar player will be able to tune to the dial tone of a phone. The dial tone is a combination of the musical notes 'A' and 'F'." 
has stood without challenge for over a year now. By itself, that doesn't prove a thing, of course, but searching around for info on the frequency accuracy of telephone signalling tone gemerators points mostly in the neighborhood of 0.1% which amounts to less than half a Hz, a lot less than the spread between some Baroque tunings and some other modern Euro-style ones. __Just plain Bill 03:50, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I distinctly hear a dominant F and a faint A when I listen to a dial tone, both basically in tune, so I guess it's possible to tune to it, although I've never tried (although I have perfect pitch, so there's no real need). —METS501 (talk) 03:53, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  North American dial tone has a 440 Hz component 

message: ::Moved from article page:
The Bornoff diagram is unclear (I'm a violinist). For example, what scale is shown, is it a five-stringed instrument, how do the other four diagrams referred to (numbers 1-5 are implied) differ from the one shown. diff showing edit by 68.165.77.8 at 03:44, 30 September 2009 
:The diagram does not show an instrument or scale. Each vertical line shows a possible finger pattern on a single string. Horizontal lines are a half-step apart. For example, the key of G major in first position uses pattern 2 on the G and D, and pattern 1 on the A and E strings. __ Just plain Bill (talk) 17:45, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bornoff diagram clarification request 

message: A minor point, but in French the word for potato is pomme, not Louré. Wschart (talk) 12:56, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Louré 

message: Somehow de:Strichart keeps being added as an equivalent page. I believe "Strichart" might better be translated as "bowing," and so does not completely correspond to "Playing the violin." Another possible mismatch might be de:Griffart (Violine) (which does not presently exist) which would cover left-hand finger patterns. For now, I have removed the interwiki link. Just plain Bill (talk) 13:00, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Resolved, I believe. The iw bots seem to have stopped since de:Strichart no longer points to this page (and fr:Jeu du violon no longer points to de:Strichart.) __ Just plain Bill (talk) 03:29, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, too soon. Looks like there is another iw bot on the case. __ Just plain Bill (talk) 04:06, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  German interwiki 

message: There is a link to a disambig page in the intro to the article. should it be going straight to a page (its the arco link)? I think it should be going to the String instrument page but I am not sure. Thanks,  Adwiii  Talk   21:23, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I just linked it to Bow (music). __ Just plain Bill (talk) 21:43, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I had no idea where it needed to go (I'm more of a band person personally) . Thanks again,  Adwiii  Talk   23:46, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for noticing the dab link in the first place. There is a section on bowing right here in this article as well as at the linked one. Those are the only relevant targets I'm aware of. __ Just plain Bill (talk) 00:13, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambig link 

message: Here is an image of a player resting the scroll on his foot. Just plain Bill (talk) 19:02, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: that's a really useful photo for explaining the position (it's not otherwise very apparent to a person from a culture in which musicians rarely sit cross-legged that it's actually possible to support the scroll on your foot while being able to reach the finger-board). That photo is clearly copyright so it can't be used in the article directly, but is it in a site that could be reasonably used as a source (or do you have something similar that we could use?)? It'd be great if we could cite it for the benefit of others as confused as me! Elemimele (talk) 23:09, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: ... I found a possible site and added it; I've also added a comment about Baroque violin, since performers of historical music very often hold the instrument around their collar-bone without using the chin, and when they do use their chin, often use a piece of cloth instead of a chin-rest. Elemimele (talk) 10:13, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: here's a video of Eva Saladin playing that way. Elemimele (talk) 10:17, 25 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carnatic playing position