Talk:Vince Russo

message: I don't know who the hell wrote this article, but vince russo was not born in brooklyn, nor was he raised there. He was raised in Long Island, New York a few blocks away from where fellow professional wrestling personality mick foley grew up. His "brooklyn" accent is entirely fake.-— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.203.117.240 (talk) 18:52, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Location of birth and where he was raised

message: This article really needs Russo's date (or at least year) of birth.  I realize how hard it can be with wrestling figures (as with actors) to get a "legit" DOB, but I hope that a major fan will really try.Rlquall 10:46, 25 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  DOB? 

message: This article is seriously disjointed and jumps all over the place as it explains the role Russo has played in the WCW and beyond.  This really needs to be cleaned up.  Eric42 00:13, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Mess 

message: Though I agree with the gist of most of this article, I disagree with some of the opinions that surface throughout the article.  For example, I didn't find the Deadly Games tournament to be "a phenomenal show . . . that [has everything that] makes a story entertaining."  I would say however, that it was the epitome of the "Crash TV" style developed in part by Vince Russo because of the many swerves.  That's not to say that I thought the swerves were clever, I did not think them clever and I also thought the in ring story-telling suffered at the expense of the many plot twists (That's why I disagree with your "phenomenal" characterization).  
I would also, generally disagree with your assessment of the Russo-era in WCW.  In general, I thought Russo did a good job of bring life to company that couldn't come up with a new creative idea to save its life in the latter stages of Bischoff's nWo run.  Though WCW never made a ratings resurgence, I don't believe Russo was responsible for the most damage.  The credit for that goes to Bischoff, Hogan, Kevin Nash and Kevin Sullivan.  I am personally of the opinion that Kevin Sullivan's post-Russo booking was what put the final nail in WCW's coffin.
I guess from an objective perspective, you can't really say Russo did a good job or a bad job creatively in WCW, but you can certainly say Russo's booking didn't win back the fans from WWE.  Jamesrphillips 05:59, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Who are you speaking to exactly? Eric42 06:53, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too much opinion 

message: Hi all.
In my first *ever* Wikipedia entry, I've added a section from the book "The Death of the Wrestling Federation" speculating that he intentionally sabotaged his own operation in WWE, as he basically wanted to move to TNA all along (and used McMahon simply to 'buy him out' of his WCW/Time Warner contract).
Bear in mind that the book is touted to have taken direct quotes from backstage WWE employees, and it certainly seems to make the source credible - even if Russo himself was lying when he told it to them.
The book also has similar quotes regarding other wrestlers etc., which had previously not been reported.
I don't know if the section I added was entirely relevant (although I think it is), as I notice that a section speculating that Stephanie McMahon was the reason he left, was removed over the past few weeks.
- The 'intentionally sabotaging' his WWE return was deleted by me because there are no credible sources to back that up. Just all hearsay. Instead, I put a few sentences using HIS perspective on what happened from an interview he did in 2002. This has been sourced. Hearsay and reports from WWE employees can be highly subjective third-party information as wrestling news sites are known to be all about. Stephanie McMahon being a reason why he left is irrelevant and Russo speaks about this on the same interview. I feel the section at this time has been cleaned up. Marty2Hotty (talk) 20:02, 6 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russo & WWE Return (2002) 

message: "Challenged Hugo Leon for the "Cheaaaaap" World Title Belt (2005)"
This was listed under the "Championships and accomplishments" section.  First, I have to question just who is Hugo Leon and what orginazation was this for?  A search on google for the "Cheaaaap" World title brought nothing so I am confused.  Also, did he win?  If not, what makes this a notable accomplishment?  I am thinking about deleting this for now.  Eric42 20:10, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: LOL, you're an idiot. Its vandalism, doofus. The fact that you wrote an entry on the talk page about the "Cheaaap" title is hiliariously sad.64.12.116.138 21:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm... You are sad.  I am causal editor just attempting to keep facts straight. Eric42 01:08, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who is this? 

message: Checked the page just to note that there were a number of "additions" made that were basically just insults. How often is this happening? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thekithless (talk • contribs) 22:28, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does this need protection? 

message: There's a lot of info on here, and I'm sure most of it's true, but almost none of it has any sources (reliable or otherwise) attached. At the moment I don't really care whether the sources are reliable - as long as a source is presented as news and not opinion. We'll sort out the reliable vs. not reliable thing afterwards.--Nonpareility 15:49, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reliable sources 

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thread_title: Peer Review

message: Whoever wrote that Vince Russo brought the ratings up in WCW is quite mistaken.  There is a lot of evidence that shows that Russo caused the ratings to drop, and that Vince McMahon was actually the one who oveersaw Russo's work in the WWF; McMahon was the one, therefore, who caused the Raw ratings to increase, not Russo. Kevin j 16:59, September 15, 2007 (UTC)
Oh I agree with you that ratings didn't come up with Russo in WCW, but to say McMahon had the ideas you have to be out of your mind.  The problem with Russo is he needs a filter on them, that's what McMahon was and he kept a lot of the bad ideas off the screen.  Problem in WCW was his leaving and coming back and being given total control.  With no control he let all his ideas out of the bag and that's what caused fans to leave.  And to further prove the point go do some research on what Vince's ideas have done to WWF.  Steamboat anyone?  Or what about Bastion Booger?  In fact I would say that when McMahon is left on his own, he is his own worst enemy. 71.224.110.27 03:50, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Inaccuracies

message: Where is the WCW section?  The article completely skips over it!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.105.84.19 (talk) 04:20, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where's WCW? 

message: I think there needs to be if not a section, then a subsection on every instance where TNA fans chant "Fire Russo!" or where Russo-fied booking blows up in TNA's face, such as hiring Pacman Jones (did nothing for ratings), hiring Andrew "Test" Martin (gone after one episode), hiring Junior Fatu (gone after two episodes), the ridiculous amount of gimmick matches ([insert random noun] on a pole match!), and other instances of totally nonsensical booking.  Not out of biasedness, but just to report just how much TNA is suffering, especially in its ratings drops or stagnation, due to Russo-fied booking  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.87.105.8 (talk) 12:43, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fire Russo! 

message: - There is way too much opinion on this wikipedia page. It drastically needs to be cleaned up. Marty2Hotty (talk) 06:50, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  2010 Cleanup of the page

message: Since Wikipedia prides itself on accuracy and full disclosure of pertinent facts, this article should have something in it about Russo's view that women cannot be leaders "because of the fact that they came from the man's rib", something he said publicly, on his own podcast, and subsequently defended in a YouShoot interview. It should also mention that many in the industry find the claim that he is responsible for 90's WWE boom period highly questionable. 92.239.2.16 (talk) 07:29, 3 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Views on women and false claims

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message: I believe Vince Russo currently works for Devotion Championship Wrestling, based in Salt Lake City, Utah.  I’m unable to find an article that makes such an announcement.  I am able to find Facebook posts about it, including this video:
https://www.facebook.com/Devotionchampionshipwrestling/videos/231011654729767/?extid=uFGE1zarobkt7Exp
Note: Vince does refer to Devotion Championship Wrestling as “Devotional Championship Wrestling” in this video, which is an error on his part. Redertainment (talk) 13:51, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vince Russo’s involvement with Devotion Championship Wrestling