Talk:Medieval music

message: This page is extremely misleading. I'm going to reword and simplify in the hopes that someone who knows this stuff well will eventually come along.
:Agreed-- I know this material quite well and would be happy to make some substantive edits. I started with a couple small changes in the opening paragraphs. (for example, Gregorian chant was not only used in the mass, and was not only used by monks, so I've removed that sentence). I am also a bit put off by how the rest of the opening is focused on a teleological idea that medieval music is all about how it sets us up for later music. I would like to make some major changes there if there's no objection. AnnaKGS (talk) 17:41, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Go for it. You probably already know to keep edits reasonably small and self-contained, and to cite to reliable sources.  (So although the inherited section heading says "rewrite", probably better to do a sequence of small changes whose end result might approach looking like a rewrite.) Good luck! Feline Hymnic (talk) 18:10, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: Anyone mind if I remove a bit of the discussion of mannerism and complexity discussion under Ars Subtilior and replace it with the discussion of subtilitas as precision which has dominated the discussion of the period for the last 25 years (e.g., in the new Ciconia book or in Anne Stone's, "What was more subtle in the Ars Subtilior?").  Also moved Jacopo from Subtilior to Trecento: I can't think of a piece that he wrote which could vaguely be considered subtilior.  (Also Ciconia only wrote one A.S. piece, so maybe he's best moved to Trecento also, or to transition to the Renaissance). --Myke Cuthbert 08:17, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: By all means:  go ahead.  I don't have a copy of that new Ciconia book (I've been limping along on a 70s-era Hoppin, the 1980 Grove, as well as the online Grove, for info on the subtilior).  Ciconia is probably best left out of subtilior and is transitional to Renaissance in my opinion.  Thanks, Antandrus  (talk) 16:00, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mannerism and Subtilior 

message: I've requested a PR of Trobairitz, any comments would be appreciated. Makemi 07:26, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer review of Trobairitz

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thread_title:  GA Re-Review and In-line citations 

message: There is no need for inline citations in this article.  The information presented here is "common knowledge" for those in the musicological discipline; distinct varification for all of these facts would needlessly clutter reader's screen.  Internal controversy naturally persists about some of the issues this article presents, but where that is the case it is clearly delineated.  As far as I'm concerned, you're welcome to take this article off of the "Good Article" list, for that in no way diminishes the "good"-ness of it; some of us, you see, are actually interested in the dissemination of knowledge, rather than merely some vigilance against "original thought" or a devout allegiance to the copyright law of the moment. 69.140.238.69 09:16, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No need 

message: I just reverted this change  (marked as "revert") -- it appears to be a switch back to a version about six to eight months ago, but I wasn't able to find exactly which one.  Could you please explain what you were trying to do?  Is there a problem with the current version?  The revert re-introduced numerous spelling errors, borked the interwikis and did a lot of perhaps unintended things.  Thanks, Antandrus  (talk) 23:34, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent change to the page

message: I've put a proposal in Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Proposals/2007/March to create a new category, Category::Medieval_music_stubs incorporating at least 60 articles still at the stub level.  There's currently no music-stub category for manuscripts (music-publication doesn't seem right) for music periods, etc.  If you have comments or ideas or support for the proposal, I'd appreciate it added to the discussion page above.  Thanks.  --Myke Cuthbert 16:43, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medieval music stubs 

message: I've semiprotected this article for a week to see if this helps slow down the incessant vandalism it receives.  Let me know here or on my talk page if anyone would like it taken off. Antandrus  (talk) 01:33, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Semiprotected

message: its a shame that this article is euro-only (!) lets not judge our history according to actual trends of border controlling, as it was not the case back then. the point is: emphasis on the medieval music of the 'old world' as a whole would be needed, please. wasnt there any music in balkans back then? in russia?? anatholian ozans and ashik-tradition???  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.170.138.209 (talk) 16:57, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: medieval music

message: If anyone is interested can someone here with any expertise tell me the difference or relation between neo-medieval music and mittelalter rock? I'm not sure if they can be used interchangeably or not but if someone could help differentiate the genres and or even help the articles that would be great. Thanks. −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪  kaiden  20:30, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Neo-medieval music]] and [[Mittelalter rock]] 

message: Unless there are major objections I plan to do a clean-up and wikifikation of this article, incorporating those points made above where possible. This will involve moving some elements to sub-articles and then producing summaries and links (the sections on this page are actually better than many of the pages on the sub-topics at the moment). Some sub-headings need expansion and some sections need more headings. I will start the process after good time for comments.--Sabrebd (talk) 13:20, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Time for a clean-up?

message: Abbreviated citations into two columns ("notes"), and added relevant texts to the "references section.Shadygrove2007 (talk) 15:57, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Tidied up notes and references

message: There is vandalism of this article by IPs on a regular basis. Is it time for indefinite semi-protection? Xxanthippe (talk) 23:02, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi-protection

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message: Hello, I patrol "External links" for compliance and found eight on this article. Sometimes these just creep in and sometimes an editor may add one or more to several like articles. I did not check the history nor anything past these comments at this time. While three or four might be acceptable, possibly five on larger articles with consensus, eight is just too many, so would someone please look at this? Otr500 (talk) 20:38, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links issues 

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thread_title:  External links modified (January 2018) 

message: Hello, All:  User:Tre di tre, if I understand correctly, says that "caccie" is the plural in Italian of "cacce", and only "cacce" is correct in the four places in which "caccie" appears in this article.  User:Tre di tre wants to replace "caccie" with "cacce" in the four places in which it appears here.  
That usage is supported by a citation to Yudkkin (1989, p. 521.  
Neither Tre di tre nor I have easy access to that book.  
Might someone with reasonable access to that book clarify this?  
In the meantime, I suggest that Tre di tre make this proposed change, changing the Reference to read something like, "Yudkin (1989, p. 529);  note that in Italian, 'caccie' is the plural of 'cacce', and the singular seems indicated here." 
If someone else checks that book and insists that the book says, "caccie", they can change the usage in that article while modifying the reference to still indicate that, "in Italian, 'caccie' is the plural of 'cacce'.  The singular seems indicated here, but the references uses 'caccie'," if it does. 
Comments? DavidMCEddy (talk) 18:25, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Only to point that caccia is singular and cacce is plural. Caccie is grammarly wrong. Tre di tre (talk) 19:26, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "caccie" or "cacce"?