Talk:Sabino horse

message: Here is a Hackney Horse filly and her dam.  The filly, has high white on all 4 legs, the full blaze, white lip, white between her jaw bones, small white markings on her belly and two white markings on her right hip. Both parents have a partially white lower lip and low stockings, but no other body markings, except for ermine marks on their coronet bands. Both parents have produced other get with sabino expression.--Panachehh 20:52, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good contributions, but I removed some commercial comments on this page.  Please be careful not to "advertise" on Wikipedia, but your images are nice.  Don't use galleries, either, I fixed the wiki markup to a more standard form.  Montanabw 21:44, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sabino is common in Hackney Horses & Hackney Ponies 

message: Image:Frederiksborghest.jpg|Wrap-around, ragged-edged blaze.
Image:Horse close.jpg|Bold, irregular blaze that reaches the lower lip; pigmented spot on upper lip
Image:WeißerFuß.jpg|Tapering white leg markings extending up the anterior of the hindleg
Image:Avenger - Westphalian horse.jpg|Irregular, sometimes tapering, white markings
Countercanter (talk) 14:58, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Gallery

message: If you look at the dominant white article, buried in there rather deeply is a description of how all white markings are related to the migration of melanocytes. So I suppose, one of these years, someone might discover yet another gene that “makes white markings happen.“ KIT is definitely earning a lot of tenure for various researchers. If you can link the research papers that discuss W 20, that would be awesome. The picture you have above in the link of the W20 horse, the thing that jumped out at me immediately is that he had white body spots. That was the giveaway, and I have seen similar faint round white spots on Arabian horses that we now probably would call “sabino” —and possibly produced by W15 or W20. Montanabw(talk) 17:10, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a link. The two W20 horses pictured in the paper don't seem to have body spots, though who knows, there could be on the other side. The paper mainly talks about its effect when combined with W5, since that's how it was found. The original paper doesn't mention white markings (probably because that sort of thing is hard to prove to the same standard) but various other sources do. I've also heard of a few W20 horses with no white markings at all. I think it's pretty cool how all these "white" things, markings, pinto, what have you, have got the same sort of underlying thing going on. I just happened across this article which I think explains it pretty well. The research they talk about is probably this. Iamnotabunny (talk) 01:33, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: .  Thanks for your edits.  I remember when I was working with Countercanter on these articles way back, she commented then that KIT seemed to have something to do with even ordinary white markings.  It’s going to be interesting to see how the science develops.  I think the main thing is that we don’t want to jump the gun, particularly with naming conventions …a lot of the science is still in flux. I’m going to mull over the articles you linked and see if I have further thoughts. Montanabw(talk) 04:17, 9 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: About W20