Talk:Overeaters Anonymous

message: I have completed a rewrite of the article. There is enough referenced reliable sources now to prevent an argument for wp:csd#g8 (the guideline User:Coelacan used for deleting the article). — Craigtalbert 00:20, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite 

message: It would be appropriate to include an accouting of how the CEA-HOW (Compulsive Eaters Annonmous) started as a sub-group of OA, and was later asked to leave, which resulted in CEA-HOW becoming it's own organization with a more structured approach.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.247.127.197 (talk) 04:37, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not the place for original research. -- Craigtalbert (talk) 05:30, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  History with CEA-HOW 

message: In the Definitions section, there is the statement "...OA believes compulsive overeating is chronic and done in an effort to alleviate psychological stress.[3]"  However, when I searched source [3], I could not find any material that supports this citation.  I am also unaware of any OA literature that supports this statement.  Can someone provide some documented source that addresses this?
Nofinesse (talk) 02:27, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also, regarding this -- I rewrote a lot of the articles on twelve-step programs after they were deleted for not citing reliable sources. See the discussion Coelacan's talk page for details. At the time, my goal was to get them rewritten quickly with reliable sources, so at least their future in wikipedia would be assured. I thought people would be along later to improve on the scholarly quality of the sources, which in some cases has been true. In this article, however, I really Kerri-Lynn's article the wrong way. I should have been checking the sources she used, and at the very least using something like "cited in" rather than citing it as the source. I'm going to try to correct a little of that over the next few weeks. -- Scarpy (talk) 21:54, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Pages 41 and 42: "OA is unique in its core belief that compulsive eating is a progressive, addictive illness. Its central tenets suggest that this illness: (1) can never be eliminated but only managed as a chronic problem, (2) requires that the abuse of food must be interrupted, and (3) requires that treatment not differ fundamentally from treatment for alcohol and drug dependence. Compulsive eating is also viewed as an impulsive response to stress, which alleviates tension in the same fashion that other compulsive disorders like alcohol and drug abuse do." -- Scarpy (talk) 03:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  OA's position on psychological stress as a cause 

message: This information is all in Kriz's dissertation. But I did some digging to find a couple of better citations for you. In addition to the citation in the article, this information is on serveral oa related websites: , , . -- Scarpy (talk) 17:25, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations for compulsion and chronicity 

message: A sentence says that abstinence is vague when compared with AA. However, OA (along with all other 12-step groups) discourages the consumption of alcohol, because drinking even small amounts loosens inhibitions and threatens whatever abstinence is for that individual (and that program BTW). So in abstaining from alcohol it is not vague IMO. Student7 (talk) 03:07, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Vagueness of abstinence

message: I'd like to work on some of the same hard-earned consensuses (consensi, what the plural is) that have been established in other twelve-step articles. For instance, I believe that we should avoid "AA-speak" or Twelver-speak in the articles unless it is defining that language (e.g. phrases like "work the steps") that are common in the fellowships but not in the rest of the world. -- Scarpy (talk) 01:25, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last sentence, second paragraph 

message: An editor has twice inserted the WP:MISSION statement of OA. This is undesirable because it is WP:SPAMy and pov. We can report what OA attempts to do. But reporting it as fact is specious. Particularly since it does not work for everyone. Student7 (talk) 01:40, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: OA mission