Talk:Haplogroup I-M438

message: I have their chapter summarizing their research in Celtic from the West - they specifically refer to evidence that there was gene flow (migration) from the La Tene origin area into North-East Ireland. Please do not remove this again. If it helps I can put a quote from the paragraph in the book that says just this.Jembana (talk) 00:12, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  McEvoy and Bradley 

message: Just to clarify, Nordvedt has never worked as a genealogist in an accredited research laboratory or published any of his "findings" in peer-reviewed journals. He is a physicist by training, and a genealogist by interest active for such commercial establishments as FamilyTreeDNA and ancestry.com. Needless to say, he is uncitable until his work has been truly and scientifically verified and reviewed. 90.230.54.125 (talk) 17:23, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Nordtvedt has publications, for example in the Journal of genetic genealogy. Check here and here, please. He is also cited in  peer-reviewed journals. Check for example here, please. Thank you. Jingiby (talk) 18:16, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The Journal of Genetic Genealogy is not an accredited journal as it has not been assigned an impact factor and neither does the PubMed list any of the publications in question ; all it gives are his publications in physics (my case in point). His two publications in the above-mentioned "journal" are furthermore only cited by other non-accredited journals such as the "The Russian Journal of Genetic Genealogy" whose website is makeshift (not to be confused with The Russian Journal of Genetics; a recognized journal). As it turns out, your "example" is all there is when it comes to the journals he's published in and it does not prove his efforts as a geneticist to be significant for an encyclopedia. What I am definitely removing from the text regardless of the reliability of his publications is the following: " In 2011 Nordtvedt has confirmed I-L69.2 is not older than 2,800 years.", since he hasn't published any paper on this yet whatsoever (there is merely a claim laid out in an e-mail correspondence), I should not need explain why this cannot be used as a proper source (could obviously not have been peer-reviewed if not published). 90.230.54.125 (talk) 20:52, 27 May 2013 (UTC)

text: In addition, if we should deem his arguments regarding I-L69.2 to be worthy better sources will be required. Any scientific arguments will have to be within the framework of a serious peer-reviewed article as opposed to claims of an email correspondence which is close to resembling "hearsay". 90.230.54.125 (talk) 21:08, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: 90.230.54.125, excuse me, but in 2013 it was already very clear that more and more academics were using the mutation rates that were established by amateurs. --YOMAL SIDOROFF-BIARMSKII (talk) 20:02, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: YOMAL SIDOROFF-BIARMSKII So no problem, you just use peer reviewed sources by those academics, right? To comply with WP:VERIFY. Dougweller (talk) 21:44, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Dougweller, on topics that were covered by academics - yes, we should. Even despite the fact that some amateurs proved to be more professional than academics. However, some topics were not covered by academics at all. --YOMAL SIDOROFF-BIARMSKII (talk) 10:53, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: [[User:YOMAL SIDOROFF-BIARMSKII|YOMAL SIDOROFF-BIARMSKII] And then we wait until they are. And it's not up to us to say that some amateurs are more professional. Dougweller (talk) 17:40, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Ken Nordtvedt

message: No I-L69.2 in Ukraine? Really? --Yomal Sidoroff-Biarmskii 20:41, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ukraine. 

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message: The opening paragraph seems to imply that this haplogroup is directly correlated with height (when controlling for other genes/geography), which seems unlikely and isn't mentioned anywhere in the given references. I've removed it, is this alright? Crom daba (talk) 14:25, 18 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It is cited at Haplogroup I-M170#Height article, however it is merely a trivial correlation as Y-DNA doesn't have any direct genetic causation for height (which is influenced by autosomal DNA, diet, environment and so on).--Miki Filigranski (talk) 12:09, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Height non sequitur 

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