Talk:Sing for the Moment

message: wikipedia is not a lyrics database, the contents of the song can be said with out the lyrics 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:NOT#LYRICS -Gurall200  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gurall200 (talk • contribs) 03:25, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Remove the lyrics

message: References? 'Many consider this to be one of Eminem's best tracks, and is a fan favorite of many.' etc. ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.255.201.88 (talk) 18:47, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: This song has nothing to do with The Wallace Collection's "Daydream"? Chord progression and bass line side very similar. Grassynoel (talk) 09:14, 8 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Samples 

message: The article currently gives ""Sing for the Moment" deals with a bouncer named John Guerrera is also referenced in this song." then gives a quoted lyric, "That's why we seize the moment, try to freeze it and own it - Squeeze it and hold it, 'cause we consider these minutes golden". This is badly worded and irrelevant to the article, having originally (see this diff: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Sing_for_the_Moment&type=revision&diff=1090200608&oldid=986756022) read ""Sing for the Moment" deals with the themes of rap music's effect on society and the misunderstanding Eminem claims critics and parents have towards his message. Eminem uses the song to refute critics who have accused him of promoting violence to young people, saying that committing a crime is ultimately up to the offender in a post-9/11 world. He also explains that his music has an advantage for young people, claiming that his music is a relief from boredom and depression. Eminem's altercation with a bouncer named John Guerrera is also referenced in this song"- followed by the quoted lyric. The original version made more sense with regard to the quoted lyric; as it stands, the article appears to imply a connection between this non-notable bouncer fellow and the lyric. I have twice attempted to clarify this with a trim but was reverted twice. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:78.145.166.41 for discussion of this point. The article as it stands could do with improvement in this regard, and no doubt others.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.166.41 (talk) 02:21, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: If the the original version make more sense that revert the edit with supported source.02:33, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  No source to give, the article history makes the situation perfectly clear. It's in the hands of other editors if they want to make the article comprehensible.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.166.41 (talk) 02:56, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also, just to let you know, you didn't sign your comment, which is supposedly a point of great importance here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.166.41 (talk) 03:03, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

text:  If you can provide the source then pls do not add or change the content for Wikipedia is all about verification by independent, reliable sources. Cassiopeia  talk 06:15, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm sorry, but as I've told you already your English is unclear. This- "If you can provide the source then pls do not add or change the content"- makes absolutely no sense. Additionally, it's not a question of sourcing. It's a question of extant content- quoted DIRECTLY above- having been edited from the article, leaving one meaningless sentence about the bouncer, with the quoted lyric still attached. I respond here not because I expect you to be capable of wrapping your head around this extremely simple matter (as you've... repeatedly shown yourself to be incapable of so doing) but as a record for any future editors who might do the necessary and improve the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.145.166.41 (talk) 15:12, 28 May 2022 (UTC)

text:   Sorry my English is not up to your standard. Pls read your talk page. Content added or changed need to be supported by independent, reliable source (IRS) for verification. The editor who add the content or change content need to provide the IRS as per Wikipedia guidelines WP:PROVEIT and WP:BURDEN. Cassiopeia  talk 21:43, 28 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Weird leftover sentence from deleted passage