Talk:List of NFL career quarterback wins leaders

message: Postseason wins should definitely be included, since those wins are even more important than regular season wins.  Jazzcowboy (talk) 11:29, 11 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Post season wins can be found on a different Wikipedia page. You can find those here: NFL starting quarterback playoff records Stylteralmaldo (talk) 17:09, 14 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Postseason wins 

message: What's the point of the "other notable quarterbacks" section? What good reason is there to have it? Lizard (talk) 06:25, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps this section could be modified regarding it's purpose. Maybe list only the active quarterbacks from that listing? My thoughts. Stylteralmaldo (talk) 22:25, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Other notable quarterbacks" section 

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message: This was removed. Why?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.211.137.223 (talk) 23:47, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been thinking about reworking this abomination for years now, but I always get discouraged when I see how much work it'd take. (Wow we were literally minutes apart to suggest this) Lizard (talk) 20:03, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, this list should only include regular season wins, as is standard for every other NFL career leaders page. Lizard (talk) 20:14, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed, and will start on a color cleanup later. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 20:30, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Temporarily cleaned up the page (still needs a proper fix). One last thing, do we want/need to include ties here? ~ Dissident93 (talk) 20:53, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Ehh it'd be odd to leave ties out. They are part of a quarterback's record, which is basically what this is a list of. Lizard (talk) 22:27, 7 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why did you remove the total wins column? There needs to be a column that lists total wins (the combined total of their wins from all teams), otherwise it's way less readable. Joejoe1864 (talk) 22:01, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed. The table is very difficult to follow. Brady has 204 wins....that's easy because he's been with one team. Peyton Manning has 141 + 45 wins? Huh?? Confusing. Stylteralmaldo (talk) 20:09, 29 November 2018 (UTC)

text: Usually people update it after every win. ~ Dissident93 (talk) 01:19, 11 January 2019 (UTC)

text: I tried to make some changes but they didn't save successfully, so I just made a minor change instead. Some of the list still has errors. Joejoe1864 (talk) 23:34, 6 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Winning Percentage in NFL QB Wins page 

message: In my opinion, quarterbacks who have played for more than one team should have a 'total' line at the bottom of their chart section.  Also, the tie number that encompasses more than one row is a little too cute, and actually is confusing.  For instance, it looks like Len Dawson had eight ties with each of the three teams he played for, for a total of 24 ties in his career.Juve2000 (talk) 05:01, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chart 

message: The list was horribly constructed before, so I boldly updated the table to address the following issues.
# Restored the Pro Football Hall of Fame designation which was lost when the list was re-made.  This note is used on most NFL player lists.  I also added colored backgrounds for both HOF and active players, which are used on most NFL lists.
# Updated all active QB records, accurate as of the games played November 3, 2019.  
# Removed post-season records from QB win percentages.  This chart is for REGULAR SEASON wins only.  Also update win % to not include pre-1972 ties, which were not counted in a team or player's record based on the rules at the time.
# Added columns for career wins, losses, and ties.  Previously, a player's career losses were not shown, only his losses with each specific team.
# Removed the absolutely horrendous convention of combining all ties into one row.  It made no sense whatsoever.
# Fixed sorting order for the team(s) a player has played on.  I kept the notation the same (e.g. "Indianapolis A" for Peyton Manning, who has the highest win total for the Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts, and "Indianapolis B" for Johnny Unitas, who has the second highest win total for the Colts (even though he played in Baltimore).  Therefore keeping the franchises together when it is sorted by franchise (as it was done before, but I fixed the mikstakes).  Note that I have the Raiders sorted as "Las Vegas," which is premature, but will be done at the end of the season anyway. 
# Fixed the sorting of QB names so all players are sorted by surname.
# Removed the convention of using win % to "break ties" between QBs with the same number of wins.  The NFL does not use win % to break these ties, so it is not Wikipedia's place to do so.  Players with the same win total are now listed alphabetically. 
Frank AnchorTalk 16:14, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table updates 

message: If you sort the table by anything other than the initial column, the rows are duplicated in a funny way.  I'm not a guru, so I'll leave it to someone else.  I suspect that it's because there isn't a proper index as the first column groups QBs by rank when they are tied for number of wins.
Jeff kuta (talk) 16:49, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sorting Bug