Wikipedia talk:Mediation Cabal/2005 Archive

message: Wikipedia:Mediation_Cabal#Christian_right_and_Political_correctness could use some prompt attention, things are degenerating fast. Sam Spade  00:50, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if things are degenerating, I suppose it couldn't hurt to simply take the high road and not fight anymore until some mediation can be arranged. Everyking 01:29, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  bad to worse 

message: The whole "There Is No Mediation Cabal" reads like an inside joke that no one should take seriously, and virtually no one who hasn't been on Usenet will understand.  If the users don't understand the joke, or if they do understand it, but don't appreciate it, they won't try this method of resolving disputes.  Anyone who's been on Usenet probably already understands a whole lot more than the average user about how written words can be misunderstood, and probably needs this service less than the average user.  
The other important reason why I mention this is that by using this joke, you're already dividing users into two groups (those who get it and those who don't) and showing favor to those who get the joke.  
If we're honestly trying to resolve real differences between users here, it isn't very helpful to dig up this old joke's corpse and revive it here.  I'd be happy to attempt mediation, but I'm certainly not going to list my username as a volunteer on this page in this state.  
If we insist on making light of the situation, why not attempt to put some cheezy '50s customer service kitsch into it?  Or set up the page to read like an advertising brochure for a relaxing spa, or a zen temple?  There are a whole lot of better models than the "There is no ______ Cabal" joke.  
Looking forward to replies.  --Unfocused 14:33, 6 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  TINMC is a bad choice 

message: I know this page probably isn't the perfect place for me to have brought this case, but things are getting sour in a big hurry, and I really have no idea what to do. I don't know if it's just that no one's had any time to review my case yet, but if it IS in the wrong place, could someone please say something, and perhaps suggest an alternate course of action? I'm literally desperate here, and nothing I know how to do has been effective. --InShaneee 9 July 2005 01:22 (UTC)
*Blarg, I know this is a bit late, but User:TheoClarke has suddenly stopped speaking to me and Angie (the user I needed mediation with, and the user Theo was trying to mentor), and although things were getting better, she still makes several problem edits a day. Any suggestions? --InShaneee 16:59, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: User dispute

message: I've redirected this to WP:RFM. TINMC is not a bad idea per se, but there are presently four such processes running concurrently, and that redundancy is not very constructive. Additionally, the name 'TINMC' is confusing to many uses, and this page has been dormant for over a month now. The four should join together in making one shiningly great process. Radiant_>|< 09:58, August 12, 2005 (UTC)
*I've reverted your redirection. Wikipedia should be run by consensus. Kappa 10:35, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As we have spoken about this, you have my permission, although I have no respect for the MedCom. I do see the point in merging our different instances however. Inter\Echo 00:56, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redir 

message: I have just completed an overhaul of this system (following my new election as Cabalist-in-Chief by Kim and Inter) and generally improved the page and the process somewhat. I would be most grateful if people would advise me as to whether I have solved all of the problems raised here, or whether there is still more to be done. Comments, and criticisms, would be most appreciated. --NicholasTurnbull 04:33, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: very late comment, although I haven't seen anything I don't like. It looks pretty good. We'll stick with this. :) Inter\Echo 09:44, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Mediation Cabal, v2.0 

message: Personal attack noticeboard. Seems handy to watchlist as an early-warning page. Kim Bruning 06:32, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:PAIN]]

message: *User talk:SlimVirgin, an independant mediator, maybe we can pick up some of the stuff on her talk page. But be gentle! I don't know if she'd really like an invasion.
*WP:AN, WP:AN/I and WP:AN/3RR are all good clues.
* ... (insert more here if you have any ideas)
**And WP:RFPP
**Right now, I'd say two places off the top of my head that really need mediators are the disputes at Talk:Rajput and Talk:Plasma cosmology/Talk:Redshift and the Gibraltar dispute at Talk:Disputed status of Gibraltar. Dmcdevit·t 04:31, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  More places to find work 

message: Is there any point to archiving mediation? I can't imagine it would be much to use to people, and old discussions are always available via the history, of course. It would be a lot easier just to chop old/closed cases. Dan100 (Talk) 20:23, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archiving - needed? 

message: I see some changes are afoot but I don't like the direction this is going. Making the request process more complex and adding more steps to the mediation really isn't going to help! I'd prefer we discuss these changes first. Dan100 (Talk) 23:08, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whoa 

message: :The following was a reply left on my talk page that I'm cc'ing here Dan100 (Talk) 10:57, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I see, that makes sense! I saw a sort of half-way version that looked like it was going to be made up of transcludes (a la the ArbCom, as you mention). I also saw some "Stage A,B,C" stuff that looked rather over-formal... I'm glad that didn't make it through to the final version! Dan100 (Talk) 10:43, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  My large Medcab changes - an explanation 

message: No one expects the Mediation Cabal!!!  Ah, feels good to say that.  I'm back from Wiki-break and am glad to see things are running very well.  Right now there's a lot of junk going on over at AMA so my efforts will be focused there for now but I'm prepared to help out with TINMC whenever needed.  --Wgfinley 01:58, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm Baaaaack!