Wikipedia talk:Swedish Wikipedians' notice board/Archive 1

message: I don't want to clog up your talk page about these matters that do after all concern Sweden in general, so I write it here. Working on the most recent suggested project, Sweden geo stubs, I noticed Swedish wikipedias fine maps, e.g.: http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trelleborgs_kommun . Maps are something we are in the need of. I've noticed User:Mic doing some maps, but more are needed. We really have no maps of where cities are located and I think it sucks. Not even Malmö has a map of its location. 
I did a check with lantbruksmäteriet and their maps are copyrighted, and they charge a lot for the use of them, and would probably not allow them on wikipedia anyways. So do you have any other suggestion? 
As another examples of usefulness, I would have liked a map of Sweden where the monasteries in the medieval age are marked. 
--Fred chessplayer (talk) (edits) 12:19, 29 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There might be older (PD) publications to use for historical maps; if they are not up to date with later research, scanning them may at least provide a good departure point for editing in an image program with the aid of newer reference works. Likewise, for historic parts of cities which remain unchanged, the Nordisk familjebok maps may be used. I was thinking of using a cropped version of the NF Uppsala map for the area around the cathedral and the old university buildings, which looks more or less the same today as in 1920. The NF Stockholm map can probably be used for Gamla Stan in Stockholm, but it is obviously useless, except as a historical map, for large parts of Norrmalm. Central Lund probably looks familiar from the NF map. Uppland 10:44, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sweden cities and maps 

message: I will skip the notion of tätort from now on, until anyone provides a similar English term that is actually in use. It is too confusing to explain that Sundbyberg borders to Stockholm and is part of Stockholm tätort, especially since tätort is only used for administrative purposes. 
--Fred-Chess 14:58, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that the proper translation would be: Sundbyberg is a town(ship) which is part of Stockholm's conurbation.--Wiglaf 19:24, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  tätort 

message: The Church of Sweden administrative unit "församling" is sometimes translated to "congregation" here in Wikipedia. This seems to be incorrect.  "Parish" should be used instead, and frequently is (as in :Category:Church_of_Sweden_Parishes), but after encountering a number of examples of "congregation", I'm adding a note here to alert you to the problem. Please fix it when you encounter it. (I just fixed it at Östermalm, but Spånga-Tensta borough is another example.)
If anyone wonders what the difference between the terms is, the Wikipedia articles pretty much explain it all. The parish article specifically mentions that the word is used in the Church of Sweden (and it is indeed the translation used on their own web page). Although "congregation" can also be translated into Swedish as "församling", the article congregation (worship) indicates that this mainly refers to a group of individuals attending a church, rather than an administrative unit. / Alarm 13:13, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation of "Församling" 

message: Excuse me if I bore you, but there's another one: In my opinion, SÄPO definitely ought to be moved to Swedish Security Service. I doubt the SÄPO acronym is much used in an English language context. It isn't even the official Swedish name/acronym. Swedish government sources seem to use the Swedish Security Service in English translation. The same here: please comment on Talk:SÄPO. / Alarm 15:07, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there were no objections to this, I've moved it now. / Alarm 18:22, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming discussion II: [[SÄPO]]