Talk:Robert Desnos

message: "One of his most famous poems is "Letter to Youki", written after his arrest".
Is "Letter to Youki" really a poem?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.40.45.43 (talk) 15:29, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Letter to Youki

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Griffin, Susan. 1996. "Can Imagination Save Us?" Utne Reader, July−August.
	
It is online at Utne: http://www.utne.com/arts/can-imagination-save-us-buddhism-beginners-mind.aspx 
but does not contain this quote which is in the wikipedia article, unless there is a fuller version in print or elsewhere.
This is the quote on Wikipedia:
One day Desnos and others were taken away from their barracks. The prisoners rode on the back of a flatbed truck; they knew the truck was going to the gas chamber; no one spoke. Soon they arrived and the guards ordered them off the truck. When they began to move toward the gas chamber, suddenly Desnos jumped out of line and grabbed the hand of the woman in front of him. He was animated and he began to read her palm. The forecast was good: a long life, many grandchildren, abundant joy. A person nearby offered his palm to Desnos. Here, too, Desnos foresaw a long life filled with happiness and success. The other prisoners came to life, eagerly thrusting their palms toward Desnos and, in each case, he foresaw long and joyous lives.
The guards became visibly disoriented. Minutes before they were on a routine mission the outcome of which seemed inevitable, but now they became tentative in their movements. Desnos was so effective in creating a new reality that the guards were unable to go through with the executions. They ordered the prisoners back onto the truck and took them back to the barracks. Desnos never was executed. Through the power of imagination, he saved his own life and the lives of others.
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The quote is almost identical to the text in "Developing Ecological Consciousness: Path to a Sustainable World" by Christopher Uhl, p 310. 
There are slight differences which could easily arise in transcriptioni, e.g.
Wiki: "they knew the truck was going to the gas chamber"
Book' "knowing that the truck was going to the gas chamber"
The notes on p. 343, give the source as  "7. Susan Griffin, "Can Imagination Save Us?" Utne Reader", the same as the wiki article.
See Look Inside:
https://www.amazon.com/Developing-Ecological-Consciousness-Sustainable-Future/dp/0742532909?ie=UTF8&page=47&reader=1 
The book was published in 2003, so it cannot have taken the text from wikipedia.
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The story is also told in a similar way, but with different phrasing throughout in To Love The Marigold: Hope & Imagination By Susan Griffin, an essay in the book "The Impossible Will Take a Little While" by Paul Rogat Loeb, P.171.
See Look Inside: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Impossible-Will-Take-Little-While/dp/0465031730/ref=sr_1_fkmr2_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1466162686&sr=8-3-fkmr2&keywords=the+impossible+will+take+a+little+white+paul+loeb 
Her article can also be found on https://zcomm.org/znetarticle/to-love-the-marigold-hope-and-imagination-by-susan-griffin/ It reads:
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