Talk:Stenka Razin

message: Some of the passages here seem a bit flowery.  Now, personally, I don't mind that, and I'm not a fan of the seeming tendency to declare anything that is not bland and matter-of-fact as "unencyclopaedic".  However, there is one line that goes too far, to the point of being difficult to parse: "Stenka Razin, as he was generally called, had now become a potentate with whom princes did not disdain to treat".  I presume that what the double negatives and old-fashioned language are saying is simply "... he had become powerful and influential enough that princes were prepared to negotiate with him", but it took a couple of re-readings to get that, so it should probably be rewritten. Wardog (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 14:09, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flowery language 

message: Styenka (Stenka) in Russian means wall. It's symbolic. Something on the lines of "Stonewall" Jackson.
A reference to this in the main body might be relevant.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SBader (talk • contribs) 04:05, 30 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you're confusing Стенька with стенка. The second one is the diminutive of wall, the first is the diminutive of the name Степан (Stepan). C0pernicus (talk) 10:24, 8 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Styenka (Stenka) 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Razin (disambiguation) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 22:50, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: In the section In Russian language culture and folklore, the text reads "The song recounts that Razin aboard the ship tames the princess". This is the first time that either a ship or a princess is mentioned in the article, and the terms are not further explained later. As it stands, the paragraph is very unclear, and does not appear to relate to anything else in the article. Could someone expand this, and explain which princess was thrown off of which ship? RolandR (talk) 15:15, 8 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ship and princess 

message: The recording seems to have two different tunes and two singers overlaid on the same track. I found the same thing when playing the file on Wikimedia. Something strange is happening; it's as if The two tunes play together but one can be stopped before the other. The technical stuff is beyond me so all I can do is point out the problem.
Incidentally, the tune Stenka Razin is the basis for the Seekers song "the carnival is over" written by Tom Springfield. This fact is a stretch for an article about the person Stenka Razin, but might be worth mentioning in a note. Humphrey Tribble (talk) 06:28, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The song plays fine for me on my Windows 10 PC.I have tried both Firefox and Chrome broiwsers. Brymor (talk) 09:41, 27 April 2022 (UTC)

text: Also it is interesting that the music quoted shows the last two lines of the verse repeating, whereas Chaliapin does not do this, he just moves on to the next verse every 8 bars. And he doesn't sing the last verse in the text (repeat of first verse) - he ends with the poor woman's soul. Brymor (talk) 16:46, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad recording?