Talk:List of 2006 FIFA World Cup controversies

message: I've put the GA nomination on hold, because the introduction is one sentence long, I really don't think that summarizes an article of this size very well as per WP:LEAD, it will need to be expanded out to summarize the article, preferably in one or two paragraphs detailing the most important stuff or something. Homestarmy 17:04, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Otherwise is it fine? I'll do the lead in the next 24 hours. Daniel.Bryant 03:57, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Daniel.Bryant 06:07, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GA nomination

message: This article has taken what appears to be a somewhat unique topic and made a pretty good article out of it, now that the lead is longer I think it summarizes the article pretty well since it mentions specific bits of the article, I see no way you could get away with calling this article not well referenced, the one image is properly tagged, (Try to find more) and the articles seems pretty stable. The NPOV thing seems the most iffy part of the article, I think it could just barely qualify as passing, you need to attribute sentences to their source such as "To add to the game's controversy, the 79th minute goal by Australian striker Harry Kewell appears to have been scored while Kewell was in an offside position." (who does it appear to?) and "but the common opinion was that the expulsion was unfair and excessive" (Who's common opinion?), though I suspect that by the lead stating that the controversy was among the media, the reader might be able to pick up on this without checking every reference. (It's still inconvienent however). Also, make sure to cut down on drama-inducing language, I know the topic is sort of intense, but sentences such as "Following months of confusion over who would be managing the African debutants Togo" seems to make the article more intensive than an encyclopedia :/. (Plus, that one doesn't say who is being confused). I suspect many reviewers wouldn't pass this article, but you've got the references which sort of seem to try and show both sides of issues, you've just gotta attribute them more properly. Homestarmy 14:59, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll try and fix up the article removing the ambiguous and weasel wording. Daniel.Bryant 07:34, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Status

message: I notice that the Portugal v. Netherlands game is described in similar detail (even using almost the same quotes) in both the "disputed decisions" section and the "other issues" section.  It's described a third time in Fair-play decisions, but I can understand the reason for that.  I was wondering if it is really necessary for that match to be in there twice.  I don't see much of a difference between the two descriptions.
Also, Blatter is referred to as "Sepp Blatter" on all occasions but one, in which he is called "Joseph 'Sepp' Blatter".  I think this should be made consistent with the rest of the article.  Cfrydj 22:14, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some suggestions 

message: Shouldn't Zinedine Zidane#Confrontation with Marco Materazzi be in there somewhere? It was controversial because of (a) allegations that Materazzi provoked Zidane (b) allegations that the fourth official relied on the video replay to see the error. jnestorius(talk) 01:45, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ou est Zizou? 

message: Re: my recent edit;
Removed POV language about the Neill/Grosso collision. Corrected or rather updated Sepp Blatter's later comments-he retracted seeming criticism of the referee. Couldn't figure out how to edit the references section to update to the correct reference. For Australian fans: if you watch video of the incident, the referee is in perfect postion and orientation to have watched the incident. If it makes you feel better, watching video convinced me that Materazzi's red card was spot on. Please note that Coach Lippi didn't lift an eyebrow in protest. 
Please refrain replaying the game with POV material. Thanks
Tapered (talk) 07:03, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australia vs Italy Round of 16 

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message: This is old news and not really an issue in Australia nowadays.  But I do hate diving, and I am not alone in that.  When I saw the red card initially I thought it was a bit soft.  Subsequently seeing the footage on youtube, I could see why the referee gave it, but still I would regard it as a decision that could go either way.
I must admit I don't think the penalty was deserved.  Fabio chose to dive.  He could have played on and kicked the goal.  As he said, he ran out of strength after a long and tiring game and that's what brought him down.
Either way, these things happen.  I do wish that all that diving panzy stuff could be eliminated.  Play like Messi.  Get fouled, keep running, and put the ball in the net.  Nobody can argue with that ;-)
Thepigdog (talk) 05:18, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Italy vs. Australia edit

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message: Hi everyone. 
As we approach yet another WC tournament, I believe that now is an  appropriate time to revisit some key issues (at least IMHO).
I know that this is not the first conversation about this, but I'm trying to resurrect the List of 1998 and 2002 Fifa World Cup controversies articles (see here).
Those of you who followed the process will remember the 2002 article was the subject of two deletion debates, and then closed down and SALTed. Since I believe that controversial incidents are a window into the development and evolution of the game. I hope as many of you as possible will join me in this effort.
 
Regards. Asoccer maniac (talk) 03:37, 10 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversies

message: In any world cup there are going to be a number of decisions that fans disagree with. The media will also write about the decisions from their point of view. Despite some hyperbole I don't think these always rise to the level of being an actual controversy. A while ago I trimmed some of the minor incidents out (see this diff collection, but it was reverted. I discussed this with  at my talk page (User_ talk:Aircorn/Archive 9#List of 2006 FIFA World Cup controversies) at the time.
I am starting a discussion here to gauge other editors opinions on what should be included, in p[articular regarding individual game incidents. Personally I feel it is getting into WP:Indiscriminate territory and has become a WP:POV fork from the tournament article. As far as the games I think could deserve a mention here are the Australia vs. Croatia (definitely), Australia vs. Japan (maybe if trimmed back), France vs. Korea Republic (focus on goal line technology), Portugal vs. Netherlands (definitely - even has its own article) and Italy vs. France (although more focused on the headbutt). The others seem like the usual incidents seen in most games and are not particularly controversial from a neutral point of view. There are a few other "world cup controversies" articles that this discussion could potentially influence notably List of 2014 FIFA World Cup controversies, but this is the worst in terms of number of incidents recorded and with a focus on referee. AIRcorn (talk) 22:21, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: As there is no response here I trimmed these incidents again. I will wait a while before continuing. AIRcorn (talk) 18:49, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  - Didn't see this when posted a few months ago, but I pretty much agree with your take. Some mentioning of refereeing I think is ok, but I think you're right that not all rises to the level of "controversy". Let me know if you'd like some help with the clean up. Cheers – Broccoli & Coffee (Oh hai) 18:58, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. It could probably do with a bit of an overhaul in general. List of 2018 FIFA World Cup controversies is far from perfect, but we had a tighter control of it during the world cup, so I would use that as an example of how to lay this out. I get the feeling this was probably just a dumping ground for undue material added at the main world cup page. AIRcorn (talk) 19:25, 19 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undue focus on refereeing