Talk:Nguni languages

message: I believe we should remove the paragraph: 
"From an English editorial perspective, the articles "a" and "an" are both used with "Nguni", but "a Nguni" is more frequent and arguably more correct if "Nguni" is pronounced as it is suggested[by whom?][specify]."
This fits more of a English language style guide, and can't be found in other articles discussing Bantu language terms that begin with N+C.  Possibly adding IPA /(ə)ŋˈɡuːni/ would resolve questions about pronunciation.  TheInfrastation (talk) 06:54, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: MOS Edit

message: ## I like to rectify the the examples of that were as follows: Ngiyazithanda izintonga zakho ezintsha. with: Ngiyazithanda iintonga zakho ezitjha.
Ndebeles are traced back 1480's from one of Ngunis Mafan/Mhlanga.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.7.238.147 (talk) 12:46, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I have taken out some of the duplication (e.g. explanation of Xhosa social structure) and internal contradiction. Nguni is commonly used to describe both the people and their languages, but it seems logical that information about specific Nguni groups belongs in articles pertaining to those groups. Humansdorpie 15:50, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed duplication 

message: Where does this lunatic fringe theory that "Nguni" is an artificial term come from (citations, people!)? And why does the article have a link to a redirect to itself? There should obviously be a separate Nguni languages article, this article at present is less than a stub Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 17:38, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Clarified the issue by adding a reference to Wright (1987) and elaborating on what he says. And you're right of course about the need for a solid article on the Nguni languages. — mark ✎ 14:43, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

text: No, I didn't mean to say that it was invented in the 30s; only that since the 30s, it has come into use as a wider ethnological label the accuracy of which is disputed by some. It is obviously related to Ngoni (the two are just alternate spellings); and I am sure that some (if not all) of the groups that are nowadays called Nguni also share a common history. Wright (1987) just notes that this use of the term Nguni suggests a historical, monolithical unity where in fact there most probably were several closely related groups.  — mark ✎ 18:47, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm sorry, I know your problem. I wasn't aware that you weren't done yet. I have improved the wording so that it is more clear that not all dispute the term.
Speaking of which, how's your thesis going? Is writing a thesis hard work? Are all those seemingly arbitrary citations really necessary (it frustrates me when I try to teach myself something and I see "was derived in (Smith 1985)"). My email has changed, btw. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 18:44, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

text: <cough> I'm working on it right now (or should be). It's actually going quite well; I just need some time off sometimes. And yeah, it is hard work, and those citations are really necessary if you want to do more than re-inventing the wheel. — mark ✎ 19:34, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Hm, typo. So, as it is now, I hope the article makes clear that almost everyone (linguistics and ethnologists alike) is happy to use the term Nguni, but that some (like Wright) have raised questions as to the exact use of the term as a generic label, seeing that it might imply a monolithic ethnicity whereas in fact matters may well have been a little more complex historically. To be clear, there is nothing 'artificial' about the term itself; Wright's point is just that its use has changed over time and that one should be aware of that (as happens to every label, of course; see Dorobo for a more dramatic example). — mark ✎ 20:43, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A few problems 

message: I'm not sure about that new sentence that's been added - are there even Nguni speakers in Mozambique? Xitsonga isn't Nguni. Joziboy 08:28, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Languages 

message: Once you understand completely what animism is, and make the effort to understand African Traditional Religion(s), you'll realise that this is not animism. We need decent articles on Shembe and his church, and the ZCC. Zyxoas (talk to me - I'll listen) 09:55, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion

message: Can someone please help render "Be Prepared", the Scout Motto, into Chichewa? Thanks! Chris 01:28, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Scouting in Malawi]]

message: Are clicks a (or the) common feature of the Nguni languages? Hellsepp 10:45, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clicks