Talk:Hellenic Greece

message: A common term I've heard is "Classical Era".  Does that refer to this era?  I think it refers to the period of Athenian "high culture" (Parthenon, etc.), so think the answer is yes, but am not entirely sure. If so, should Classical Greece be redirected and something added here? --Delirium 11:34, Nov 11, 2003 (UTC)
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The title of this article is absurd: "Hellenic Greece" is a tautology like "British Britain." If it is intended that this should be an article about Greece between the Mycenaean and Hellenistic periods, it should be called Ancient Greece or Classical Greece. The former is more common although the latter is more technically correct. Unless anyone violently objects I will move the article. Adam 01:30, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Hellenic era is the standard term for the period in Greek history between the Mycenaeans and Hellenistic successors, even if it doesn't make much sense in terms of etymology.  I'll agree, though, that Hellenic Greece is a little odd.  It's not the equivalent of British Britain, but it may be the equivalent of Roman Rome.
As indicated, my doubts about the name are now secondary to my doubts about the content. The simplest way to resolve both is to scrap this article and redirect it to History of Greece so the reader can find what they are looking for. Adam 03:19, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)

text: Coming to this discussion late (as seems to be my habit), I believe we shouldn't toss out the idea of an article covering Ancient Greek History between the Mycenaean period & the period of Alexander the Great. I notice that there is an existing redirect called "Hellenic civilization", which could be a good title avoiding the issue of pleonasm (i.e., "British Britain"); the following period would then be called Hellenistic civilization -- which would be more accurate than "Hellenistic Greece" because it should cover Greece, the Hellenized Near East & the Successor kingdoms. But at the present time I understand there's not enough written to separate out the various subperiods of Ancient Greek History, so as long as that redirect exists, I'll be lnking to it with my edits. -- llywrch 18:26, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classical Greece? 

message: Shouldn't this page redirect to Hellenistic Greece? --Phil1988 (talk) 13:51, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  redirect? 

message: If you see this as a concise broad concept article, that's fine with me.  You should know, though, that popups tells editors that this is a disambiguation page complete with choices of links with which to replace this title.  At present, all article and portal links to this page have been disambiguated, and the only links to this page are user and project pages.  So if you take the time to link other articles to this page, there will probably be others who will use popups to disambiguate those links.  Joys! – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 21:11, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello. I don't have strong opinions about this, but at present it's just not a dab. A dab page would say: Hellenic Greece is either a), b) or c). But the article reads: Hellenic Greece comprises both a) and b). So it's an explanation of the concept, almost dictionary-like, rather than a dab page. Hence why I removed the tag. --Midas02 (talk) 21:21, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Your argument is strong; however, if you're going to get this off the popups list as a dab page, then it may have to lose some of its "conciseness".  In other words, a correctly formatted (this page is formatted like a dab page) broad concept article should be written that links to Archaic and Classical Greece as related terms.  As far as the popups problem goes, I'm not sure how to get a page off that list.  I recently came across a full-fledged article that was rather lengthy, and yet it still appeared on popups as a dab page.  It may have been a dab page at one time and apparently nobody took it off the popups list when its broad concept article was written.  In any case, happy editing! – Paine Ellsworth CLIMAX! 22:14, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  To dab or not to dab