Talk:Nios

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I propose a change to this article's See Also section. Please see Talk:Nios See Also List for details.
KerryVeenstra 15:23, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
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message: -->since this disambiguation page have only two article there fore its better to remove the disambiguation And secondly Nios II doesn't belong to this disa page so its better to remover or deleter this disambiguation page--Sita manu (talk) 05:24, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This article should have links to 3 articles in English and several more in other languages. You deleted the link to one of the other English articles without providing any reason (it isn't the one you mention here, and even for that one you didn't give a reason). I think if someone actually was looking for Nios II that it would be quite reasonable for them to just look under Nios. Ditto for the embedded processor; if I remember that Altera made something called Nios but not exactly what kind of part it was, I won't know to type "embedded processor" in my search. Why do you think this page should be deleted? Is it because you want to have this redirect to National Institute of Open Schooling? I don't think that is more important than the processor; in Google the processor is about half the results on the first page, but the Indian education board is only one of the top ten. If anything, the processor is the more relevant search result. And look at the stats for those pages. Nios II had almost twice as many views as the National Institute of Open Schooling last month: 2160 vs 1100. WeisheitSuchen (talk) 13:13, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If we were going to delete this disambiguation page, then it would make the most sense to redirect Nios to Nios II as it's the most important and most common. Is that the outcome you're looking for? That would have the effect of making it harder for people searching for Nios on Wikipedia to find the education board. You shouldn't be trying to use Wikipedia to affect search engine results though, which is what it sounds like is your goal. Please review the guidelines for disambiguation pages and see if you can come up with a reason within the guidelines for deleting this page. Right now your rationale doesn't make a lot of sense. WeisheitSuchen (talk) 19:31, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that what you're asking can't be done according to the disambiguation policy. Here are the two choices: A) Leave the disambiguation page as it is B) We delete the content of this page and redirect it to Nios II as the primary topic. Nios II is more common, so it would clearly be the primary topic. Your suggestion isn't an option; it violates the policy and makes it harder for the majority of users who aren't looking for the National Institute of Open Schooling. Once again, you're not talking about policy; you're just talking about how you want articles important to you to get good search results. That isn't an acceptable reason for changing a redirect and confusing people who want to find Nios II. WeisheitSuchen (talk) 08:55, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I brought up the search engine results as a way of showing which topic is more important, which is the correct way to determine where the redirect should go. These are called "disambiguation" pages because they take something that is ambiguous (more than one possible meaning) and make it clearer. The two ways to be clearer are to give a list like it does now or to go to the most important/common topic. If you do the change you say you will, it will be disruptive and you'll be back to WP:ANI for blocks on both your accounts. WeisheitSuchen (talk) 12:35, 27 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Doing the promotional redirect as IP addresses rather than doing it while signed in doesn't actually make it less disruptive, nor is anyone fooled into thinking it isn't you. This is very clearly a redirect away from the primary topic for the sole purpose of affecting search engine results; that's exactly what a promotional redirect is. You can say "I have no other choice" as much as you want, but you do have a choice: you can choose to follow the same rules as everyone else. You choose to continue to behave as if you are above all Wikipedia rules, just as you have pretended that copyright laws in the US & India don't apply to you in the past. What do you expect to gain by playing this game? WeisheitSuchen (talk) 18:07, 4 October 2009 (UTC)
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