Talk:Todd Patrick

message: Note:
It is ridiculous of the previous editors to suggest that the "Todd P" article I posted lacks sufficient social significance to merit inclusion in Wikipedia. I have no affiliation with Todd P, but he is the major organizer of indie rock concerts in Brooklyn, NY, where tens of thousands of fans of this type of music are concentrated. Many writers in national music publications are based in Brooklyn and attend Todd's shows to determine which bands they should cover in their publications. By organizing concerts in Brooklyn, Todd shapes the listening preferences of fans of indie rock in NYC and across the nation. Indie rock is listened to by hundreds of thousands of people across the nation and there are hundreds of articles on wikipedia about indie rock bands, recordings, and record labels. The indie rock scene is also where bands are typically discovered by major labels. If indie rock warrants coverage in wikipedia, then Todd P, a major player in the indie rock scene, deserves such coverage.
Also note that the _NY Times_ and _Village Voice_ have considered Todd's efforts at organizing indie rock shows to be of sufficient interest and signifance to warrant their publishing articles about him, which are linked above. If Todd is important enough for these publications, he should also be important enough to warrant inclusion in Wikipedia. The previous editors should investigate the subjects of articles more carefully before prematurely suggesting their deletion for lack of social significance. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Toddyking (talk • contribs) 08:27, 5 August 2006  (UTC)
* Please remember to assume good faith and be civil. Declaring changes made by other editors to be "ridiculous" is not helpful. Your original version of the article was both entirely devoid of sources (other than a link to the subject's own web page) and also included an absolute superlative (the leading promoter, rather than a leading promoter). Furthermore, your name here is "Toddyking" and your only contributions have been to an article by a person named "Todd". It's not unreasonable that some might think that this was a case of a autobiography. VoiceOfReason 15:48, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Notability debate

message: There should be no period at the end of the title - it's "Todd P", not "Todd P."
To support my argument, visit www.toddpnyc.com - that is this individual's website. He never uses periods at the end of the name.
Also, the original author of this article appeared to have had a personal axe to grind with the subject of the article. Discussion about his clothing choices are all but irrelevent. 
That really doesn't fit the mission of Wikipedia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 166.114.6.130 (talk • contribs) .
:  I've moved the article to Todd P.Wwwhatsup (talk) 11:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Punctuation

message: Todd P print appearances, almost all of which are direct profiles solely on his work:
The Village Voice
http://villagevoice.com/music/0626,breihan,73642,22.html
Time Out New York
http://toddpnyc.com/images/todd_p_timeoutny.pdf
The Deli Magazine
http://thedelimagazine.com/content/kitchen/toddp/index.htm
New York Press
http://nypress.com/16/9/music/music2.cfm
The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/01/fashion/01boite.html?ex=1163566800&en=8f81ef9edb2bd606&ei=5070
The New York Times
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/27/arts/music/27club.html
(originally listed by 24.215.206.159 on my talk page) ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:53, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It no longer is. The sources should be harvested for individual citations. Wwwhatsup (talk) 11:50, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: References which need to be added to article

message: Anonymous editors have repeatedly removed the image on the grounds that it misrepresents the subject as a musician. I have, and will continue to, reverse those edits. The picture is a video still from Punkcast that includes video of Todd P performing music, so it's evident that he is a musician, however limited. It is true that that is not what he is notable for, but that's not material when it comes to the image, which merely illustrates what he looks like. Furthermore the image is taken at one his more notable shows. It can be replaced by a more suitable free image if one shows up. Wwwhatsup (talk) 03:15, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Image

message: This is the subject of this article, Todd Patrick. I can't stand this video and it doesn't represent what I do. There is zero necessity for an image on this article - and as I'd stated before, a few years ago, I would actually prefer this whole article didn't exist. Why now add insult to injury by continuously posting and reposting an embarrassing video? I think the creator of the image and video, Joly McVie, aka Wwwhatsup, is using this as a vehicle for self-promotion of his video work. That's all well and good and more power to Joly, but -please- take down the crappy video of me embarrassing myself with an acoustic guitar. It's a bummer.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.120.138.151 (talk) 00:28, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would  say Todd, that 1) all the earlier edits I reversed were done anonymously, and I've never received a request from you personally to remove it, until now. 2) it was just a photo, not a video. 3) that's actually quite a nice tune. I'm a regular wikipedia editor and try to post up a free pic of anyone that is lacking one. I do my best to document the scene, as you know. I don't particularly understand your antipathy to wikipedia. You always seem to be happy when you get recognition, otherwise. Wwwhatsup (talk) 11:07, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Retort to Joly