Talk:James Parry (Usenetter)

message: The version on CoralCDN changes as the page changes, therefore linking to the CoralCDN version (nyud.net:8080 or :8090) only shows the geocities bandwidth used up version. Why not just link only to the CoralCDN version next month, or whenever geocities restarts the bandwidth allotment?
Or is the version on archive.org better?
Also There's like three versions on archive.org, would someone else figure out the diff, or add links to all the different versions, or link to his sig directly on google groups? Family Guy Guy 18:47, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changed/added archive.org links rather than CoralCDN links 

message: Because silly as it is and sounds, all of this is true!  There was even an article/interview in Wired magazine several years ago about it all.
I went to RPI the year and a half that Jim "Kibo" Parry went there and used to visit him in Boston a lot, that is how I was able to write all the stuff in the Wikipedia entry about his college days and quantify his work in type face design and with world.std.com (he may still work there, I've only corresponded with him very occasionally in the last 5 years or so).  If you go to his website (since this was 7 years ago it is probably in a very obscure part) and look hard enough you will actually see a brief "tribute" section to my wedding which he attended; it is likely the only part of his weird and crazy website other than his world.std.com praising that isn't tongue-in-cheek and is actually serious.  If you can't find it go to Google and type in the search "Happy Honeymoon Harry and Lisa" and it will come up.  I am amazed to see that he is actually famous enough to be a Wikipedia entry but three cheers to him! Hairymon
:: It may well be true, but there are thousands of geeks with their own geeky foibles out there. Do they belong in encyclopaedias?
:::If you actually don't know whether Kibo is notable or not, I recommend checking his mentions in the media as a start. They include Wired, the Baltimore Sun, the San Jose Mercury, Playboy, the Boston Herald, the London Times, and many others. If you can find thousands of geeks who are as notable as Kibo, please make articles about them. Factitious 17:20, September 12, 2005 (UTC)
He finally took off my "wedding" page.  He had to do it very recently because my half-sister told me last month how she put my name in Google and was surprised to see that page come up.  I think almost 8 years is long enough  :-) hairymon 04:16, February 3, 2006 (UTC)
::::The media, in the last 50 years, has mentioned billions of people and things. Not all of them deserve their own webpage on wikipedia. My grannies house was flattened in the hurricane a few years ago, and as a result of her losing her house she was in dozens of publications, newspapers and newsreports. She ran a knitting class and died her hair blue (as of 2005). Get my point? JayKeaton 22:47, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, yes, we get it. You don't care for this article, and you're responding to years old discussion to make that point repeatedly. Either renomininate it for afd yet again, or don't, or improve the article, or don't. :-) Cheers, -- Infrogmation 22:53, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Permission has just been granted. Thank you, mwah! JayKeaton 03:57, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why the 'Personal Nerd Fluff' Stays 

message: How is this pronounced then?!
It could be bow as in "bow and arrow" or bow as in "bow to pressure"! I presume the former, but this needs clarifying Bobbis 14:02, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Although this has been changed to be clearer (one hopes), I've added the IPA to avoid any ambiguity. --moof 19:23, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Might the term "Klippoth"(Qliphoth) be the source of the name "Kibo"? 173.28.244.122 (talk) 03:26, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kibo as in "eye-bow" 

message: While it was a wild ride paging through Kibo's signature file, what credible sources can corroborate the contents of this article?  Specifically, how can one verify that Kibo is a supertaster?  Can't sleep, clown will eat me 22:37, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Kibo himself has claimed to be a supertaster. The message is archived in Google Groups.  [Here is a direct link.] The relevant quote is at the bottom: "Now, as far as being a supertaster goes, that's another tiny genetic difference that makes me better than the Muggles, even if it makes dark chocolate taste really nasty." I'll change the article to say that Kibo claims to be a supertaster, instead of saying that he is one. -- DocSigma 14:16, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Kibo being, well, Kibo, claims a lot of weird things - probably that he invented pickles, that he is the ghost of France (the real one having died in a skiing accident twelve years ago), that he can hear purple, etc.  No, none of these are actual Kibo claims, that I know of, but are in the same vein as his humour.  Unless, in one of his rare moments of sanity (and as "James Parry", since that section is more about Parry than his "Kibo" alter-ego) he has claimed it in all seriousness, it should either be removed, or moved to a section more about Kibo (and maybe reworded as "Among Kibo's many claims are that he ... ").  Those that have contributed that have met Parry (amazing how many have come out of the woodwork to comment in the comments section!) could probalby confirm or deny these weird claims being attributed to Parry (rather than Kibo) --Canuckguy (talk) 05:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Supertaster statement

message: I undid User:Cool Cat's moving the article from "Kibo" to "James Parry" for 3 reasons: 1)a look at "What links here" shows the relevent artlicles are linking to "Kibo" 2)In contexts he's well known for, I seldom if ever see him refered to as James Parry (though sometimes as James "Kibo" Parry is not uncommon). 3)There was no discussion of the move on the talk page. I'm certainly open to changes if someone sees a problem with the current title or article, but please explain moves if the reason isn't obvious, and in this case please discuss first, thanks -- Infrogmation 16:11, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've decided to move this to James Parry independently of any prior debate due to the prominence of the space probe.  As a compromise to previous status quo I won't redirect Kibo directly to the space probe at this time.  If "James Parry" seems a bad title, perhaps you can move it again to "Kibo (Usenet persona)" or "Kibo (Usenet alias)"? Wnt (talk) 22:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Page title

message: I nominate this... --66.82.9.82 09:56, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You must be new here. —rodii 13:10, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah! Congratulations for your new computer! Welcome to the interwebs! --Boborok 23:18, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

text: You're allowed anyway. AdamFunk (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 20:16, 24 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: lol
I also nominate this page as the dumbest on wikipedia. Rawk rawk rawk, you must be a usenet use that wishes he was old enough to actually be a part of the original usenetwork boborok. Yes, this page is dumb and should only be a small footnote in another webpage on wikipedia, it doesn't need it's own page. When articles that don't deserve their own page get a whole page to themselves, the page gets filled with bullshit that reads like a 12 year olds own geocities webpage JayKeaton 22:16, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dumbest thing on Wikipedia?

message: I cut this from the article: "Some net historians could argue that many aspects of his site make him the first blogger, as he gave regular updates on himself on his site (albeit tongue-in-cheek most of the time) since the early 1990's." 
Kibo's activity in the early 1990s was most notable on Usenet. He was not particularly early in establishing a personal webpage (I recall a good number of Kibologists had such before Kibo), and the site never was in blog form. It postdated robotwisdom by years. I don't know anyone who has seriously tried to stretch the definition of blogging to include Usenet postings. -- Infrogmation 14:56, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Website/blog

message: I tried to organize this a bit, to make it easier to read & edit.  What do you all think? Mdotley 21:00, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organization  

message: Long-time Kibo watchers will probably recognize his 'decline' after the Wired article, the Joel Furr replacement-Kibo election, and other dramas, where I saw a lot of Kibologists gave up due to his increasing self-importance attitude becoming a problem for his writing-- harassing people for doing things that interfered with his real-world merchandising efforts, etc. Anyone have enough to write a critical section? --203.14.156.193 19:36, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The rec.hunting.kibo story was another example of his ego overriding everyone else's.. 203.14.156.193 10:22, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mention the Self-Importance Problem? 

message: I've removed the  tag.  Although the content is inherently somewhat lightweight, the tone reads fine to me.  If someone disagrees, please provide concrete examples before (or at least when) adding the tag back. --Jtl 05:51, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wikipedia often has to deal with people who have had no training in professional and technical writing, who really have no idea what unbiased or informal language is. These people often assume that language does not fit within the parameters set by Wikipedia just because they happen to have a nebulous negative reaction. When asked, they are often unable to respond with specifics, so I am afraid that, even if someone actually recognized some failing in the construction of this page, they would not or could not tell you what it might be. I love Wikipedia, but you have to deal with a lot of this type of thing when you post an article here, because, for the most part, the people who comment on such things lack the necessary training and knowledge. TyFrost 03:18, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tone 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Kiboinside.gif

message: How many instances are there of non-trivial coverage from reliable third party publications about this individual?  Was there ever anything more than what was found in Wired?  JBsupreme (talk) 19:12, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-trivial coverage?

message: Whitehouse.gov launched in October 1994, making it unlikely that a press conference mentioning it occurred in March 1992. (I also wouldn't expect that the Bush White house would have said something so flippant in the midst of a losing election. I can see Stephanopoulos saying it a year or two later, though.) Not sure what to exclude from this section, since the only reference I found at all for this event is on Kibo's website  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patrickbowman (talk • contribs) 02:23, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whitehouse.gov reference 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability
First article I've ever seen that was obviously not needed for inclusion in the encyclopedia. I see it's been nominated for deletion prior and I think it's time to reconsider that action again.
-- milsorgen 11:16, November 18 2010  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.60.3.17 (talk) 18:19, 18 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fail to see how this article merits inclusion 

message: Parry was an exceptionally prolific poster to Usenet for many years, and maintained a web presence after leaving college, etc. But what did he do after leaving college and what is he doing now? His website hasn't been updated since 2009, by the looks of it, and in any case he has clearly been much less of an online presence in recent years, compared to the old Usenet days. Beorhtwulf (talk) 22:26, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm the person who went to RPI with him (somewhere in this discussion I mention how my wedding was on his page back in the early 2000s).  He wouldn't merit a "normal" encyclopedia entry, but since Wikipedia is a product of the Internet age, and he was a significant figure (for better or worse) in the early days of the Internet, I'm glad the article stayed.  By the way, although it looks like he last updated his site on Christmas Day of 2009, it does say "Copyright 2011 James W. Parry" on the page so I assume he is at least editing that at least once/year.  I've always wondered what happened to him, I am in Facebook contact with some of his other RPI friends and some friends who knew him in the late 1990s in Boston who are in other parts of the country now and they wonder too.  Hairymon (talk) 00:51, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. Please come back and tell us if you ever get an update. Better still if you can write it up somewhere and it can be included in the article. Beorhtwulf (talk) 12:10, 9 March 2017 (UTC)

text: The copyright on the site now says 2014 and the last modified date is still the same. The copyright year is probably coming from a script that is just outputting the current year.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by OMPIRE (talk • contribs) 18:58, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's he doing now? 

message: [Transcluded] from source page.GenQuest "Talk to Me"
Kibology is not independently notable. It is an obscure group that is best known for being James Parry's fan club. ―Susmuffin Talk 17:12, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger discussion