Talk:Karafuto Prefecture

message: Reading this, much of the information is either copied wholesale or incredibly similar to the Sakhalin page.  I suggest that the information here be reduced and crosslinked to reduce the redundancy. Bo-Lingua 17:31, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Redundant?

message: The Karafuto prefecture article needs to be merged into this one and replaced with a redirect. Bendono 16:04, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --Cheesemeister3k 03:40, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge notice

message: Did Karafuto have its own prefectural flag, if so could someone please upload it?Duarcain (talk) 20:49, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I finally found the prefectural emblem, which I uploaded. Unlike emblems, however, most Japanese prefectures prepared their flags from 1960s, so it's likely Karafuto never had the local flag. On old pics of Karafuto, they almost always flew the national flag. Kzaral (talk) 04:19, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Prefectural Flag

message: ::but did not approve Russian sovereignty over it. From Japan's official position, Sakhalin's attribution is not determined yet, and it is marked as no man's land on Japanese maps. As of 2005, the issue remains a major strain on Japanese-Russian relations.
This is incorrect.  Although a final peace treaty has not been signed, Japan does not challenge the Russian sovereignty over Sakhlin.  The dispute is over something else.
Roadrunner (talk) 19:46, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No - the Instrument of Surrender of Japan did not automatically transfer sovereignty of Karafuto to the Soviet Union. In of itself, the Instrument makes no mention of territorial transfer, and neither the Potsdam Declaration nor the Cairo Declaration have specific reference to the future disposition of Karafuto. Under the terms of the San Francisco Peace Treaty of 1951, Japan renounced all right, title and claim to the Kurile Islands and to Karafuto; however, the Soviet Union refused to sign the treaty; therefore the borders between Japan and Russia remain undetermined by treaty agreements. The Japanese Ministry of Foreign Affairs pamphlet on the Northern Territories issue depicts both the northern Kuriles and southern Sakhalin as no man's land pending a final peace treaty (http://www.mofa.go.jp/region/europe/russia/territory/pamphlet.pdf) indicating that the official Japanese government viewpoint is that while Russia has de facto sovereignty over former Karafuto, de jure soverignty will not devolve to Russia until a final peace treaty is signed. --MChew (talk) 09:01, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's interesting that Russia does confirm there is a territorial dispute but does not indicate concrete facts or a position on the issue on its website. Here is an exceprt in Russian from the press conference with Sergey Lavrov and Katsuya Okada held on December 28, 2010: . Basically, when asked about the issue of 4 islands, Lavrov does not single out the issue as a priority matter for bilateral relations. It sounds like something put on the back burner. Tuscumbia (talk) 21:30, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed

message: In 1945, with the defeat of Japan in World War II, the Japanese administration in Karafuto ceased to function, and in 1951, at the Treaty of San Francisco, Japan renounced its rights to Sakhalin. Since that time, the southern part of Sakhalin has been occupied by Russia. 
Considering that 99% of Sakhalin's population today are ethnic Russians, I doubt they feel very 'occupied' by their own country, sorry.
Changed it to:
In 1945, with the defeat of Japan in World War II, the Japanese administration in Karafuto ceased to function, and in 1951, at the Treaty of San Francisco, Japan renounced its rights to Sakhalin. Since that time, the southern part of Sakhalin has been a part of Russia. 
--SergeiXXX (talk) 18:39, 12 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Which brings up a good point and the whole reason I came to this article in the first place: how do the Japanese feel about losing this island? I'm rather curious if there has been any diplomatic effort by Japan to claim sovereignty over this island. Celynn (talk) 12:07, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixed POV