Talk:Law School Admission Test

message: I'm working on a page devoted to listing providers of LSAT classes/tutoring/advice.  
Please help me out, the page is at User:Patent Lawyer 001/List of LSAT Instruction Providers
--Patent Lawyer 001 (talk) 21:35, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: List of LSAT Instruction Providers

message: The opening line of the article states that the test is for America, and Canada, but the entire article seems to have an american slant.--129.173.96.19 17:23, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Canadian LSAT students represent a nearly insignificant minority of total LSAT students. Thus, the amount of specific attention they get in this article is nearly insignificant. That's called "fair proportion".--76.209.50.222 02:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Canadian Content

message: It seems improper to have a link to a commercial test prep company. No doubt Kaplan and Testmasters and whoever else may have "useful" info, too -- are we going to provide a comprehensive commercial list? Lorettagrace
:agreed. well done. Goldencrisp87 06:09, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really agree.  I mean, sure, I can see Kaplan and Testmasters as having a link.  But as a student myself, I can also see that someone might look here to get information about the LSAT, and providing a few links to leading commercial test-help sites wouldn't be totally out of order. Sighter Goliant 03:18, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Sighter Goliant.  I am currently looking to take the LSAT and I immediately came to this site to research the LSAT, as well as to see if there were external links to test-help sites.  I think external links to test-prep sites are useful tools for students like myself.Cloud900 14:47, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It might be useful to the act of taking the LSAT, but it would not be informative about LSAT itself. This article is already plenty long with adding links better found through google. rewinn 04:12, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree in part and agree in part.  Knowing that there are test prep companies, who they are and how to get there would be very helpful and save time as far as search engines.   Furthermore, going to the google site as suggested, while a reasonable thought, discounts the fact that a google search would be more commercial than informational.  That is, on this site you are looking for factually unbiased info and not commercial hype.  I would even go as far as saying that a wikipedia page on LSAT test prep should be facilitated, as it is obvious that people are looking for information about that too;  Such as, what you can do to prepare, what sample test are available, and even what companies do it and what characteristics are good and bad about those kind of companies. (PS and maybe the links to their sites should go on this new page instead, where it would be more appropriate.)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yoleo (talk • contribs) 12:21, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Yoleo, creating a new page on LSAT Preparation which lists various sources of LSAT information.  Please assist with the new page:  User:Patent Lawyer 001/List of LSAT Instruction Providers--Patent Lawyer 001 (talk) 21:35, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed Princeton Review Link

message: I think the preparation section is an advertisement for outsidelsat.com. Shouldn't this be changed? I haven't used wikipedia enough to know, but it kind of seems like misuse to put a passage like the one in the article saying: "Many companies currently offer LSAT classroom courses, one-on-one private tutoring, and online tutoring. One such company, Outside LSAT LLC, offers very effective home based tutoring at affordable rates. This company's website is www.outsidelsat.com." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cashuscash (talk • contribs) 00:33, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the very obvious advertising for that company, but you may yet be right that the entire section is unnecessary.  76.29.2.23 02:37, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I wouldn't object if that sentence were removed. It seems to have no basis anymore, and it's misleading. =Axlq 16:34, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Preparation 

message: The following sentence is unclear: "Numerous studies have shown that students who have taken full-length classroom courses at their undergraduate university prior to the exam earned mean scores between two and three points below that of the test mean."  
From the preceding context, it seems that the 'full-length classroom courses' refer to a test prep course like Kaplan or Powerscore.  But it could mean that currently enrolled undergrads score 2 points lower than those who are not currently enrolled. 
In any event, I checked the cited source. In fact, it is only one study, and it is very outdated.  It was written in 1990 and is based on the 1988-1989 LSATs. The LSAT has changed greatly since then, and the information is most likely untrue today.  I think this sentence should be removed.   
Smwheat (talk) 06:23, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't object if that sentence were removed. It seems to have no basis anymore, and it's misleading. =Axlq 16:34, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Unclear

message: I read somewhere that the LSAT isn't in fact standardized, but rather equated.  That is, curves are established before the test based on performance from prior tests rather than after based on the performance of your current test.  So if you were to take the 2008 June LSAT this year, you wouldn't be competing against the others taking the 2008 June LSAT, but rather the test takers from several tests from prior years.  I'll look up the information now -- but has anyone heard this -- is it worth mentioning in the article?Jheiv (talk) 02:50, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: * REF#1 (Under 8 Common Misconceptions #7)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jheiv (talk • contribs) 02:55, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standardized? 

message: Note to wikipedia admins: please change the above section. It's mixed up with the logical reasoning section. the logical reasoning section is where one would find the "logic games," and the analytical reasoning section is the one where you'd try to determine the errors int he statements "arguments." I'm not a user, but you can verify that I'm correct in this by consulting anyone studying the LSAT, like me. Just thought I'd try and help. Thanks - JB.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.168.86.206 (talk) 18:25, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the input, but the logical reasoning section is not where you would find the games, see this. jheiv (talk) 21:09, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Analytical reasoning

message: Hi all, 
In Australia, law degrees are generally undergraduate degrees, and are offered according to High School marks.  Post-graduate programs like JDs do exist but they are selected by the university involved based on previous tertiary marks or other criteria (like ability to pay enormous fees).  There simply is no separate "Law School Admission Test".
--Shirt58 (talk) 08:35, 30 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it is required for admission to the University of Melbourne JD degree program. See  and . I'll add those references into the main article. Transmissionelement (talk) 17:18, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Very good catch indeed.  I won't editorialise on the merits of this, as my opinions may be construed as attacks on the basic competence to run an educational institution of those involved in the absurd fantasy that Melbourne University is located in North America. --Shirt58 (talk) 09:04, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Australia? 

message: The article says:
:The test is an integral part of the law school admission process in ... a growing number of other countries
Just curious to find out which countries? Thanks in advance, XOttawahitech (talk) 15:50, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: India would be the big one, via LSAT-India (http://www.pearsonvueindia.com/lsatindia/) but China had a special administration too, LSAT-STL (http://www.china-us-law.org/institute/the-lsat-stl-admissions-tes-4.html). Transmissionelement (talk) 21:41, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Integral part in a a growing number of other countries? 

message: 'Between the quality of the handwriting and of the digital image, some admissions officers regard the readability and usefulness of the writing sample to be marginal.'
Can anyone help?
Regards, Notreallydavid (talk) 00:42, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I would presume they mean the poor quality of some handwriting samples as well as the lowered readability due to the digital imaging used. In any event, it needs to be changed. Transmissionelement (talk) 19:54, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear sentence - writing sample 

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