Talk:Dallas Sidekicks (1984–2004)

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message: This article has content identical to the one page referenced as a source. Either this one has plagarized from that one or that one is using content from this one. Either way there is a serious problem. --Mcorazao (talk) 04:39, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
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message: This article is about the original Dallas Sidekicks.  The expansion team that was recently awarded in the Professional Arena Soccer League is not related to this team other than being named after them.  Precedent already exists for two separate articles for current teams that are named after older defunct indoor soccer team.  For example, see Tacoma Stars (MISL) and Tacoma Stars (2003)/ Baltimore Blast (1980–1992) and Baltimore Blast (current)/ San Diego Sockers (1978–1996), San Diego Sockers (2001–2004), and San Diego Sockers (2009)/ Wichita Wings and Wichita Wings (2011), etc.  I could list more articles that follow the same precedent. KitHutch (talk) 01:32, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Keep articles separate  

message: Based on the news articles about the Sidekicks return this is the same Sidekicks team that played from 1984-2004.
- They are going to retire Tatu's #9.
- All of the old banners from when the team played at Reunion Arena where saved and where hanging at the press conference. 
- Most of the teams front office is made up of people that where apart of the Sidekicks in the past including the Sidekicks former owner Sonny Williams and former general manager Jim Tolbert who are apart of the new ownership group.
I think its safe to say that this is the same Sidekicks.
Links to all of the info:
http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/soccer/post/_/id/15360/dallas-sidekicks-reboot-in-november
http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/sports/Dallas-Sidekicks-Return-to-North-Texas-149717425.html
http://thescoopblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2012/05/dallas-sidekicks-tatu-are-back.html
http://www.paslsoccer.com/
Link to pics from the Press Conference:
https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.347953151930835.82073.327936623932488&type=3  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Grave35 (talk • contribs) 04:16, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose They are claiming the heritage of the old team.  The current Sockers have done that, but it doesn't mean they are the same franchise.  The articles also mention how the original Sidekicks folded, which would mean this is a different team. KitHutch (talk) 13:29, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

text: There are two San Jose Earthquakes pages:  the current team is at San Jose Earthquakes while the NASL teams is at San Jose Earthquakes (1974–88).  This will be the 20th season that a team named the Dallas Sidekicks as played indoor soccer, but it is two different franchises over those twenty seasons. KitHutch (talk) 01:21, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

text: How come there are two pages for the Ottawa Senators of the NHL: Ottawa Senators and Ottawa Senators (original)?  By your logic they should be on one page as should Baltimore Colts (1953–1983) and Baltimore Colts (1947–1950). KitHutch (talk) 17:28, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

text: By that logic, I could die and someone could start using my name and claim they are the same person?  That's what happened with the Sidekicks.  The original franchise died in 2004.  That team has not been operating since.  A new team with the same name was just created.  They can claim the heritage of the old team, but they are just a separate franchise.  BTW, there is now a new article for the Heat team that just entered the PASL. KitHutch (talk) 15:08, 4 May 2012 (UTC)

text: It is a new franchise because the original franchise ceased operations.  That means it was dead.  Between 2004 and 2012, there was no Dallas Sidekicks franchise operating.  A new franchise began operating this year.  This new team adopted the name and the heritage of the original team.  I have no problem with that, but to say it is the same team is illogical and inaccurate.  Let's not revise history.  We all agree that the San Jose Earthquakes are not the same team that operated in the NASL in the 70s/80s.  This year, the Earthquakes began wearing a "Established 1974" on their jerseys.  Does that mean that from 1996 to 2011, they weren't the same franchise as the original team and now they are? KitHutch (talk) 01:53, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge  

message: These sources can be used to expand and improve this article. - Dravecky (talk) 02:51, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
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