Talk:Omrides

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as stub, and the rating on other projects was brought up to Stub class. BetacommandBot 13:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
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message: This "stub-class" article is very poor quality and there have been "citation needed" and other tags sitting on it for months or years. I do not think it is NPOV any more to refer to Finkelstein and The Bible Unearthed as "revisionist", his research has now become mainstream, with a multi-part documentary based on it broadcast on the History channel. The statement "Most archaeologists in Israel, including Amnon Ben-Tor, Amihai Mazar, and Lawrence Stager, reject this theory" needs to be cited to a WP:RS or removed, and not in months or years, but very soon.Smeat75 (talk) 13:55, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the uncited assertions that had been tagged as "citation needed" since March and changed the section heading from "revisionist" to "historicity".Smeat75 (talk) 14:02, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
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message: I moved this section from the article - 
"Worshippers of Baal or Yahweh?
Bible described Omrides as idolatrous rulers, which promoted cult of Baal and fight with yahwism. However most of evidences suggest that deity of Omrides was really Yahweh of Samaria, not Baal. Names of some Omrides (such Jehoram, Ahaziach or Athaliah) was theophoric and refered to YahwehEdward Lipiński "Studia z dziejów i kultury starożytnego Bliskiego Wschodu" Nomos Press, 2013, Łukasz Toboła "Ba'al in the Omrides' history : the historical-theological study", Adam Mickiewicz University in Poznań. Faculty of Theology ; 162 . The Mesha Stele set up around 840 BCE, mentioned altar of Yahweh from Kingdom of Israel. It is probably that biblical name "Baal" mean Yahweh of Samaria, not phoenician deity. Maybe Samarian worship of Yahweh was regarded by Judah's priests as heretical, thus was equalized with baalism."
I don't mean to be rude, but this is not written in very good English and I don't really understand it very well. Maybe we can work on it for clarity and put it back into the article.Smeat75 (talk) 02:38, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I think your points are very well taken. I have made an effort to correct the section in accordance with your comments and have put the revised version back in the article. BPK (talk) 15:38, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
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message: Google books give me 80,000+ hits for "House of Omri" and only 10,000 for Omrides (which includes Omride). Oncenawhile (talk) 17:29, 19 March 2015 (UTC)
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message: @Zhomron has modified the Hebrew in the lede to include Masoretic pointed vowels, whereas the text in the article body is unpointed. If the cited sources contain pointed text, then we should have no trouble verifying it and including it in all locations. Elizium23 (talk) 18:59, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I have tagged the article because the Hebrew text (not to mention the Akkadian cuneiform) lacks any direct inline citation. The table containing the Hebrew names was added in 2015 by @BPK2. The table has never included a single inline citation. It is not for the readership or other editors to pore through the footnotes looking to support assertions in the article; if the foreign-language translations are unsourced then they are hereby challenged per WP:V and subject to removal. Elizium23 (talk) 19:07, 29 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The information in the tabular list of Omride rulers contested here was imported from the article Kings of Israel and Judah, where inline citations for the names are also lacking. The material has not been contested there, but if it's a problem here, it's presumably a problem there. You might want to hash out the problem on the talk page for that article first. BPK (talk) 14:21, 6 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Masoretic pointed text is unsourced