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Talk:Maria Theresa of Savoy

message: I'm hoping that someone here can clarify the French convention for her title, relative to MOS:BIO.  Maria Theresa was born a princess (the daughter of the King and Queen of Savoy) and although her husband spent much of his life with the title of a royal count, he did reign as king for more than 5 years as Charles X, Roi de France.  I presume that since Maria Theresa was of royal birth, she would not have been considered merely Charles' consort but rather, a queen in full.  Is it not Wikipedia policy for a biographical article to refer to the person by the highest rank, title or style they held in life?  For example, the title of the article on John Adams (Major General) lists him at the highest rank he held, even if it was for a relatively brief time.  If that's the case, shouldn't it more correctly be "Queen Maria Theresa of France", or perhaps "Maria Theresa (Queen of France)"? Bricology (talk) 20:55, 10 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is titled in compliance with NCRAN, the guideline used in naming most of Wikipedia's articles on royalty. Maria Theresa was the daughter of the King of Sardinia, whose descendants would later expand their realm by annexation and reign as kings of Italy. Nonetheless, by tradition members of this dynasty did not use the suffix "of Sardinia" or "of Italy", and are known instead as "of Savoy" which, while part of the territories ruled by the kings of Sardinia (and, later, of Italy) was itself a duchy, never a kingdom. Members of that dynasty, other than the ruling duke, have been known at least since the 17th century as princes and princesses of Savoy. Yes, her husband was a French royal prince who, however, used a noble rather than a princely title, Count of Artois, because that was the French monarchical tradition. And just as the daughter-in-law of Queen Elizabeth II is known as "HRH the Countess of Wessex" because her title derives from that of her husband, from her marriage until her death Maria-Thersea was known as "Countess of Artois". The convention, per NCRAN, is that once a royal wife has been dead for a while (usually, beyond the life span of most contemporaries who knew her as Comtesse d'Artois), her article reverts from her married title to her birth name, e.g. Eleanor of Aquitaine, Anne Boleyn, Mary of Teck. Although this is true of queens consort, which Maria Theresa never became because she died before her husband became king of France, it's also true of wives of royal princes: the reason is that royalty historically used relatively few given names and a limited number of titles (there are at least seven British women known by the name/title "Queen Mary" and four "Anne"s who were Duchesses of York), so that it's seen as helpful to readers to distinguish them from one another by birth name. Ergo, "Princess Maria Theresa of Savoy". FactStraight (talk) 22:39, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question about this article's correct title
Talk:Marie Walewska

message: It is impossible to use the count title of Anastazy Walewski the first husband of maria Laczynska, bezause he and his family never obtained this title. The counts Colonna-Walewski in Poland was created in 19th century!
The first count in this family was Alexander Jozef Colonna-Walewski the son of Marie and his legal husband Anastazy. But Napoleon gave this title for him - not for the family Colonna-Walewski
The article in English should give the same information like in Polish. Zaroszyc (talk) 16:38, 12 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Marie or Maria? Ericoides (talk) 13:03, 27 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: The portrait appears to be a portrait of her daughter, Marie-Anne Walewska, Duchess Colonna-Walewski, née di Ricci (1823–1912). Hansen Dylan (talk) 23:11, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portrait
Talk:Gloucester and Sharpness Canal

message: Hello. In the rather excellent and interesting bit under the header "The Purton Hulks" we currently have this:
 In 1909, following a collapse in the bank of the river, the Canal Companies chief engineer Mr A. J. Cullis called for old vessels to be run aground [...]
Do we mean that Mr Cullis was the chief engineer of "the canal company", or if you insist "the Canal Company"? Or was he the chief engineer of some body or affiliation that should correctly be referred to as "the Canal Companies"? Like that, plural, no possessive, with caps?? The article doesn't seem to help - I don't think there is much reference to the canal company, which would put it in context. For now, tll you what, I will be bold and change it to what I think might be more correct (singular, possessive, no caps) and then you can come and tell me what an idiot I am - which is fair enough (the good Lord knows it happens often enough!) as long as you tell me why I'm an idiot! :) Thanks and best wishes DBaK (talk) 07:29, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Further to that, here are a Wayback Machine archive of the missing link and another associated page:
*http://web.archive.org/web/20081121001157/http://www.morturn.com/locations/Sites/Purton/Purton_Site_Page.htm
*http://web.archive.org/web/20081011091937/http://www.morturn.com/Purton/Purton.htm
I will try to get these into the article - unless you beat me to it! :) Having said that I don't see anything there that convinces me I'm wrong in the change above. And this:
*http://www.friendsofpurton.org.uk/
- might be useful too. Best wishes DBaK (talk) 07:44, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this a plural, or a mistake? 

message: The article says  By half way through 1799 ... only 5½ miles of the canal had been completed.
It would be jolly helpful to know which end this was. Afterbrunel (talk) 18:37, 30 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Which end?
Talk:Marinus Willett

message: Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 15:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008 
Talk:Giovanni Matteo Mario

message: Under the heading:
:===Operatic career, marriage and death===
we have the following statement:
:"Mario could never marry Grisi, because she was married although separated, from Gérard de Melcy and divorce was not permitted."
which is followed lower down by:
:"During a trip to Saint Petersburg in 1869 Mario's loving wife Giulia Grisi died in Berlin"
Does anyone have a source to show that they did get married? Viva-Verdi (talk) 15:09, 3 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Most sources state that they were not married, some clarifying that it was because of her marriage with Mélcy; the only book where a marriage between them is referred to is the biography written by the daughter. Indees, she should know! but, on the other hand, she also could have a personal interest in it. That is why the doubt is still pending. --Vadsf (talk) 10:33, 23 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Some contracdictions in the text
Talk:Marjorie Fleming

message: This is the least important side of MF. Please save everyone's time by not changing it back and forth. The present spelling is used consistently in the text except in quotations. All alternative spellings redirect to "Marjorie Fleming". Bmcln1 (talk) 09:21, 20 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Spelling of name

message: No longer a stub in any meaningful sense. Why have these grades if nobody updates them? Bmcln1 (talk) 19:33, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Not a stub
Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Melbourne/LGAs

message: At 14 April 2007, of the 31 LGAs, 1 article is virtually complete, 3 are more than 75% complete, 11 are between 40 and 70% complete, 11 have a little content, and 5 are basically stubs. - Cuddy Wifter 23:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Progress update April 14, 2007

message: At January 20 2008, of the 31 LGAs, 2 articles are virtually complete, 4 are more than 75% complete, 17 are between 40 and 70% complete and 8 have some content. The estimated percentage complete has increased from 42% to 52%. Cuddy Wifter (talk) 03:16, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Progress update January 20, 2008
Talk:Bo Dietl

message: User 24.46.170.153 and I seem to have a disagreement over the relevance of the bottom few paragraphs in the article (see the article's history).  To answer your question, 24.46.170.153 ("He is not some authority on islam, for what reason do these comments need to be here?"): controversial statements made by public figures are entirely appropriate material for wikipedia articles.  I would contend that the information is relevant and notable.  Would you prefer it be re-written in such a way that the controversy behind the statements is more clear? (Perhaps in a "Controversy" or "Controversial Statements" section)? Tzepish 23:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversial Statements 

message: "Unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately" per Wikipedia - BLP sources  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiweb10011 (talk • contribs) 08:00, 9 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced Claims 

message: can you get some? 
173.61.0.54 (talk) 13:48, 23 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huh, an actor and WikiP has no pix?
Talk:Markus Herz

message: The German word "Schwindel" is ambiguous because it can designate the concept of vertigo or the concept of fraud. I assume that, because Herz was a medical doctor, the essay relates to vertigo. There may, however, be a reason that the essay is about fraud. Does anyone know which topic is the subject of Herz's essay?Lestrade (talk) 19:07, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Versuch über den Schwindel
Talk:Marquise de Créquy

message: "If it is true, as some have claimed,[citation needed] that the story about the sale of the anthem is actually from a much later tabloid, then this anachronism"
Is there any base to prove this is an anachronism? When were her first Souvebirs printed? Did it contain this anecdote?
(BTW I have known this story about Lully composing the tune for many years, I'm Belgian...)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.143.210.240 (talk) 02:54, 20 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anachronism ? 

message: She is primarily famous not in herself  She was known for her literary culture and some writers talked about her long before her "memoirs" were published, Rousseau for instance.  the Souvenirs de la Marquise de Créquy, that were in fact written by Maurice Cousin de Courchamps in the early 19th century. We need some references here, because this is not a proven fact but just a very high probability. And it's more likely that Maurice Cousin had changed and edited some parts of her memoirs, not written everything from scratch.  the most widely believed in France, is probably her statement, with a full detailed story to back it up, that "God Save the Queen," the British national anthem, was in fact written by Lully This is so widely believed in France that I, as a french, has heard about it for the first time few minutes ago, reading the page about "god save the queen". I find the idea very amusing, even if I understand why british people don't want their anthem to do be linked to the anal fistula of Louis XIV. However, nobody knows where the "god save the queen" comes from, so, it's theory among others... Cheers. ps : by the way, this theory is not only "widely believed in France", the spanish article mentions it as well. And, unlike the french article, it's not mentioned as a theory. uuuso 15:09, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for this!  If you, as a French person, first heard this "widely believed story" here on Wikipedia, we do indeed need a citation for that statement.  If it is not provided soon, I'll delete that phrase as well.  Also it seems certain, as you suggest, that she did indeed write the memoirs.--LeValley 22:00, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  notes 

message: She is primarily famous, however, not in herself, but because her life was used as a canvas for a long, highly detailed and circumstantial, and in spots very funny, set of apocryphal memoirs, the Souvenirs de la Marquise de Créquy,  
Like most successful lies, it is composed for the most part of truth. 
::Also very biased.--LeValley 21:30, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced material
Talk:Marsena R. Patrick

message: Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 16:25, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008 
Talk:Martin Kalbfleisch

message: I am researching & editing about the business of Franklin H. Kalbfleisch: Franklin H. Kalbfleisch Company. Franklin, I believe, is the son of Martin. Are there any thoughts about adding a family section in this article? Wil540 art (talk) 13:08, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding section on children / family of Martin Kalbleisch?
Talk:Martín Rodríguez (politician)

message: Wouldn't it make sense to mention that he achieved the rank of general at some point, since the city of General Rodríguez, Argentina and General Rodríguez Partido are named after him?  That fact should also be mentioned here, of course.  Gene Nygaard (talk) 12:37, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing info
Talk:Coeur d'Alene language

message: I greatly appreciate the effort the authors of this entry have invested to bring this knowledge to the public! But it is rated as a stub, so there are some things missing. Notably, with such detail on other points of grammar, this article doesn't mention how gender works in the Coeur d'Alene language. With one exception that shows either male or female, all the examples of third person are male, which appears very gender insensitive to me like saying "mankind" to mean human beings. I am very curious to know whether Coeur d'Alene has animate/inanimate gender, such as Anishinaabemowin. I realize these are completely different language families, but it seems possible. It would be wonderful if this article clarified the question of gender in the Coeur d'Alene language! Coryannyyz (talk) 15:50, 4 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gender in Coeur d'Alene language?
Talk:Minutes to Midnight (disambiguation)

message: Please do not edit the part about the band! They want to be known. —Preceding unsigned comment added by LPXero5 (talk • contribs) 
:Hello... since you're new to Wikipedia, you're probably not aware that the project has guidelines about use for promotional purposes. One of the guidelines, WP:EL, prohibits external links unless they specifically benefit the article in question. In the case of the band, the Myspace URL is a promotional link and as such must be removed. (However, I'll leave the band's name for now. Another editor may choose to remove it if there is a question of notability, but we'll see.) That aside, welcome to Wikipedia - and good luck with the band! --Ckatzchatspy 01:45, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do not add subjects that don't have an article, e.g. bands. Otherwise create the article then it should be added.--The Negotiator 20:54, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

text: No - the term long predates the album, and will outlive it as well. (This is evidenced by the large number of cultural items that either use or reference the idea of "minutes to midnight".) One of the guidelines with respect to how to use redirects is to avoid unnecessary changes based on temporary popularity. This is not to disparage Linkin Park, but merely to reflect the fact that - while in the spotlight now - their album will not have the same popularity a few month down the road. If we find that, in fact, it does remain a "most-searched" link, then we can certainly revisit the matter in the future. Hope this helps. --Ckatzchatspy 03:53, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
Talk:Cleaning Windows

message: The article says that the song "is based on real life experiences of the young Morrison at his first chosen job after leaving Orangefield School for Boys at the age of fourteen". Here he recalls that the events actually happened in 1962, when he was 16 or 17. Perhaps we should note the discrepancy. --Ghirla -трёп- 23:37, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Who on Earth is deciding the genres to assign to Van Morrison's songs on wikipedia?  Look at a large number of them, and listen to the song at the same time.  You won't understand it either.  This song is neither Celtic, nor Jazz.199.172.203.92 (talk) 03:13, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I had the same reaction. It's fixed now, at least for this page. (I guess one could argue, though, that this song counts as "Celtic music" by virtue of being sung by a Celt.) Ou phrontis (talk) 20:38, 25 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre
Talk:Mary Ann Gilbert

message: Todd, A.C. (1956). "An Answer to Poverty in Sussex, 1830-45". Agricultural History review 4 (1): 45–51 was linked by URL http://www.bahs.org.uk/04n1a4.pdf   in 2006. Vernon White . . . Talk  16:52, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Found at [www.bahs.org.uk/AGHR/ARTICLES/04n1a4.pdf www.bahs.org.uk/AGHR/ARTICLES/04n1a4.pdf] Puzzle !Vernon White . . . Talk  16:59, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Broken link

message: This article's information is mostly concerned with her husband. I understand that some of it is relevant to her life, but much of it isn't. In my opinion, someone with the knowledge should edit this article to give a greater focus on Mary. FropFrop (talk) 08:53, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree that the "article's information is mostly concerned with her husband", although the article is pretty light on content anyway. However I don't see how the sentence "" adds to our understanding of Mary Ann, so I think it should be removed. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:15, 24 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article is mostly about her husband
Talk:Knox College (Illinois)

message: According to the college's own web site (https://www.knox.edu/about-knox/our-history/knox-presidents) he was Knox's first president. What's the story on his omission from the article? deisenbe (talk) 13:15, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hiram H. Kellogg 

message: An anonymous editor, whom we cheerfully refer to as Anon, has been adding a significant number of new names to the Notable persons section.  Normally, these names ought to first have their own Wikipedia articles, properly cited, to confirm notability.  THEN, they may be added as bulleted names.  As this is a work in progress, perhaps Anon intends to write these articles, or check that they exist.  Without such links, or at least a blue-chip citation to some national journal or news site, it is quite probable that these good-faith additions will be deleted.  Jax MN (talk) 19:16, 30 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not notable Notables
Talk:Stainforth and Keadby Canal

message: I don't think the link counts as spam; the site (http://www.penninewaterways.co.uk/) says of itself:
:Pennine Waterways is an independent non-profit-making website about the canals of the area.
And the site does contain genuine useful information; I think the external link should be reinstated. --VinceBowdren 15:36, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pennine Waterways external link 

message: I'm not that familiar with the bridges on the S&K, but I think the map is incorrect. It shows the 'Sliding Railway Bridge' and the 'Vazon Swing Bridge'. Isn't the sliding railway bridge the Vazon bridge?
Dcm6000 (talk) 19:40, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Vazon swing bridge is a foot bridge just to the west of the Sliding Railway bridge. Bob1960evens (talk) 18:13, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map
Talk:Mary Anne Clarke

message: The article mentions her daughter, but does not provide her name nor her paternity. The reader is left wondering who fathered Mary Anne's child.--Jeanne Boleyn (talk) 08:36, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mary Anne's daughter 
Talk:Mary Bateman

message: Indeed Bateman was tried, convicted, and executed for witchcraft, but the lede is sensational.  She was convicted of witchcraft, but witchcraft means poison.  The reader must get to the end of the article to find that a jury found her guilty of murder. I am going to soften this.   Randall Bart    Talk   17:04, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sensational lede 

message: When I'm typing this, the article contains the statement that its subject once worked as a mantua-maker. The word "mantua", although entirely in lower-case, is hot-text that will, when clicked, lead the reader to the Wikipedia article on the city in Italy that is named "Mantua". It should be linked to a garment called "a mantua". I find this exasperating. I mean, put yourself in the reader's position. One gets to the word "mantua" to describe something that the subject made. One has no idea what a mantua is. One SHOULD be able to merely hover the mouse over it and be informed by a little mini-window. But no. One clicks, goes to Italy, then has to start over with a search for "mantua", avoid the placenames, and it takes forever, plus one must then go back to the original place, open the Talk page, and notify the slackards who run Wikipedia that they should be charged fees for such wastes of time. It is beyond what the public should endure.2600:1700:6759:B000:E894:BFCC:705D:880 (talk) 17:38, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Alas, there are no "slackards who run Wikipedia" just volunteers putting time and effort in make knowledge freely available for everyone out of their own good faith and will. Thanks for the comment. I have fixed the link. If you'd like to learn to contribute to, I'd recommend WP:Teahouse - we're always keen to welcome new volunteers Lajmmoore (talk) 18:23, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Broken Link
Talk:Mary Berry (writer, born 1763)

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Support Mary Berry (writer, born 1763) per WP:NCPDAB. It's also just good disambiguation in this case, because at a glance a reader will be able to tell this isn't about the contemporary food writer. --BDD (talk) 02:44, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey
Talk:Mary Young Cheney Greeley

message: .
This characterization is unsupported by a citation, and somewhat contradictory—if Greeley had "little say in the running of the house" and avoided it, how is that "oppressive?" And "kept her pregnant" implies intention at best and sexual assault at worst, again without a citation. It just stands out in an otherwise competent article. —Matuko (talk) 13:36, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Marriage
Wikipedia talk:Former featured lists

message: I don't think Provinces of Thailand should be identified as a re-promoted FL. It was originally a featured article, well before WP:FL existed. A few months after WP:FL developed, Provinces of Thailand was removed from FA through the WP:FAR process, and was promoted to featured list a couple weeks later. It should be listed on WP:FFA because it was a featured article at one point. Gimmetrow 23:41, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Provinces of Thailand

message: How do we deal with List of members of the Commonwealth of Nations. This is now an FL. It was created by the merger of List of members of the Commonwealth of Nations by continent, List of members of the Commonwealth of Nations by date joined, List of members of the Commonwealth of Nations by name. I have added these to the Former featured lists that have been re-promoted, but I have not updated the Lead as I know not how to word it. Thoughts? Woody (talk) 18:29, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of members of the Commonwealth of Nations]] 

message: Pretty good for a process that only delisted 11 between 2005 and 2007. -- Scorpion0422 23:18, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh, pass the kudos onto the nominators, who are seeking bad FLs more often now. At this rate, I can probably do a FFL contest by mid-next year. — sephiroth bcr (converse) 23:38, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 50+ Delisted in 2008