Talk:Brecon Beacons National Park

message: Expansion tag added, as this is very short compared with other national park articles. I'm sure we can find more to say SP-KP 18:42, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely there is more to put. I think perhaps the problem is knowing how to split material between this page (on the national park) and Brecon Beacons itself. Telsa (talk) 11:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)

message: A recent BBC news story ( 'Amazing' Beacons win top honour (which seems to be about six months late) points to the park authority's page: Fforest Fawr Geopark. There's lots more that could be added, so I leave the URLs in the hope that someone will get around to it before I do :) Telsa (talk) 11:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Geopark

message: Most of the national parks in England and Wales have one article for the NP and the geographical area, so it makes sense to do so here given the paucity of information in both articles. Of course we'd have to make clear that the NP covers a wider area than the Beacons proper. I'd also suggest that once the merger is done, the page is moved to Brecon Beacons; I'm doing it this way round because Brecon Beacons National Park has more information and contains the National Parks template. Blisco 08:25, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed merge

message: There has been quite a bit of discussion over the previous years at Talk:Brecon Beacons about un-merging the article. Unfortunately no action had been taken and the last action in that discsussio was in 2010. I've therefore been WP:BOLD and re-split the article. The primary reason is that Brecon Beacons is part of the National Park (one of four ranges of hills) therefore, if anything, Brecon beacons should be a sub-section of this article, not the other way around. Sionk (talk) 23:59, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Un-merged

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: It's often rehearsed that the names of the easternmost and westernmost massifs within the BBNP give rise to confusion. To add to the confusion in the minds of some is the fact that the name of the eastern massif in Welsh is traditionally 'Y Mynydd Du' - yes, exactly the same as the massif in the west. The English names are differentiated with the western massif being the singular 'Black Mountain' and the eastern one being the plural - 'Black Mountains'. This latter seems to be a relatively recent name; the re-translation of it into Welsh is 'Y Mynyddoedd Duon' and appears on OS maps for example, but it is not the traditional name for the area. A glance at https://cy.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mynydd_Du_(Mynwy) confirms this situation.  
Another of the main massifs is known widely as Fforest Fawr - it has in the distant past been known by the English name, 'Great Forest of Brecknock', but not in the modern era, hence my reason for changing 'Great Forest' to 'great forest' as simply a translation of the name, rather than appearing to be a modern English alternative name.  thanks Geopersona (talk) 14:01, 10 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming of parts 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was:  Proposal rejected. I also hereby withdraw this proposal. Move suggestion was premature. Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:NAMECHANGES, there is clear opposition to the move. Consensus has supported appropriately waiting to see if this new name will be used by reputable sources. This move could be revisited in the future if deemed necessary.   — That Coptic Guyping me! (talk) (contribs) 16:00, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Brecon Beacons National Park →  – Per the ongoing discussion on the talk page, the park has officially been renamed as the "Bannau Brycheiniog National Park". We can just as easily keep a redirect from the old to the new name. I believe WP:NAMECHANGES should take precedence over WP:COMMONNAME in this scenario, but let's discuss. Pinging users involved in prior discussion for courtesy.  — That Coptic Guy (let's talk?) (contribs) 20:04, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously Amgueddfa Cymru's name change slipped under the radar, unlike Bannau Brycheiniog NP. But I've added a recent BBC news source that prominently uses the new museum branding, so that should satisfy WP:NAMECHANGES in theory. But based on WP:NAMECHANGES, Millennium Stadium is well due for review. Sionk (talk) 20:25, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 18 April 2023 

message: For those following Welsh news, it may have become increasingly apparent that the term Bannau Brycheiniog now seems to be the most commonly used name, particularly this month.
See some of these recent examples:
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/whats-on/travel/bannau-brycheiniog-named-new-york-28422186
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/travel/places-to-travel-destinations-2024.html
https://www.walesonline.co.uk/lifestyle/tv/bbc-one-show-welsh-ex-28418282 Titus Gold (talk) 01:39, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: To be the common name it would have to be the common name . Not limited to Welsh news, nor even to Wales. Sirfurboy🏄 (talk) 07:34, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: This article doesn't exist. Whether to refer to the NP differently still needs more than three sources, which as stated above don't show a "significant majority", but it is getting there. These sources still use Brecon Beacons    , but yes both my selection and yours can be WP:CHERRYPICKING which is why a more general analysis is needed. DankJae 12:59, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bannau Brycheiniog name