Template talk:Country data Western Sahara

message: This territory has no flag (CIA World fact book, Western Sahara), and its POV to use a flag which don't exist in this template. The flag of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic is in Template:Country data Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic. Use this last template if you want a flag.
In this template, we can use a map, otherwise nothing. We can discuss about these 2 options. --Juiced lemon 17:16, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The point These templates are for flags, not maps. These flags are not based on the CIA World Factbook (e.g. there is a template for South Ossetia.) Please don't break them. Western Sahara does have a flag, and the objection that you're raising here has been raised on Talk:Flag of Western Sahara several times without the page ever being moved. Please don't unilaterally change this template to break it. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 17:20, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: What you don't know Although this is conspicuously absent in the text above, there have been multiple RfC's on precisely this issue, including a vote, and every time, the consensus has been to leave the page Flag of Western Sahara where it is, with the same graphic that it currently has. Again, there are flag templates for other disputed/occupied/etc. territories, and there is no reason to apply a double-standard here. For instance:
*Template:Country data South Ossetia
*Template:Country data Abkhazia
*Template:Country data Transnistria
*Template:Country data Chechnya
Notice that none of these flag templates arbitrarily include maps and thus, they serve their purpose in articles. By capriciously include a political outline map of a territory into a flag template, Juiced lemon is implying that image is the flag of Western Sahara, and that is clearly not the case nor is it NPOV; it's just confusing and unintelligible. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 14:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: South Ossetia, Abkhazia, Transnistria are listed in the Wikipedia article list of countries; Chechnya is the Chechen Republic, in the Russian Federation. These political entities are not comparable with Western Sahara, a geographical region. Another political entity, the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic has a flag, but Western Sahara hasn't. --Juiced lemon 17:16, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Country It's under that heading because you just changed it. That doesn't prove anything other than the fact that you're doing the same thing on several articles. Are you being serious? How are these not comparable? They apparently are. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 18:50, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As I wrote earlier, I don't know the exact status of Western Sahara with regards to SADR, but I just wanted to note that all the former Soviet entities listed above control the entire territory that the respective flag is associated with.--Doron 20:00, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Several previous RfC's

message: Sigh I took a look around, and apparently, Juiced lemon's edits have broken the template so that that it consequently breaks tables as well. Two examples:
*List_of_countries_by_length_of_coastline
*List_of_countries_by_compactness
There are more as well. So, in addition to including a map alongside dozens of flags, this formatting is additionally breaking the formatting of articles. Can someone please fix this? -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 14:44, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Update Apparently, it's due to edits to Template:ESH, another flag template in which he has inserted a map for some reason. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 14:46, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: YOU are responsible of the mess you point out! On this edit, you added a POV template, and you also included a line feed in Template:ESH! I have fixed the problem. --Juiced lemon 16:47, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My apologies Too true; it was my formatting that broke the template, but nonetheless, my statement still stands about how bizarre and inappropriate it is to include the map, essentially implying that is the flag of Western Sahara. Forgive my hastiness. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 18:35, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bonus: Broken tables

message: Eh! return the Saharaui flag! It is the official flag recognized by the 85 countries of the world who have recognized the independence of Western Sahara. There is not any geographic region called Western Sahara because geographically there is not frontiers in the Saharaian sand. Western Sahara is the short name name of the legitimate Arab saharaui Democratic Republic, Souther Provinces is the name of the de facto colonized Morocco's part and Spanish Sahara is the name of de iure colonial name.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.48.47.54 (talk) 18:55, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Return the Saharaui flag! 

message: Should we use  this flag instead? Emmette Hernandez Coleman (talk) 10:03, 18 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Support: Since Western Sahara is a disputed territory, and since this template associates the name of the disputed territory to the flaf of one of its claimants. The proposed flag is neutral per WP:NPOV. --Omar-toons (talk) 04:10, 29 March 2013 (UTC)

text: Support: the use of the SADR flag alone is clearly a POV.Wimmiden (talk) 08:28, 11 February 2015 (UTC)

text: Of course I do not oppose a formal RfC --Omar-toons (talk) 01:46, 12 February 2015 (UTC)

text: Me neither Wimmiden (talk) 19:18, 14 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Flag

message: Hello,
On the majority of pages mentioning Western Sahara, the template used is: 
This use is inadequate and not neutral because the flag shown is that of the Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic, which is not neutral.
I tried to change the  template by merely Western Sahara when at least it is listed as a territory and not as SADR. But the changed are very often reverted.
The whole template  should be either modified or deleted because inaccurate and not neutral at all.
Wimmiden (talk) 09:07, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Western Sahara