Talk:The Fighting Temeraire

message: Unfortunately I cannot source it, but I seem to recall hearing that the painting was a reflection of the triumph and success of the industrial revolution while remaining aware of the ironic destruction of that which Turner's contemporary society was most proud, and for what the contemporary society remained proud for. (20040302 (talk) 08:49, 21 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is fascinating how Turner regreted the passing of the old, but was happy to celebrate the new (Steam and Speed). It's hard to imagine such a huge talent being applied to a painting of 20th century symbols such as the Shard or Thruist SSC!The Yowser (talk) 12:14, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Symbol of Industrial Revolution 

message: The image used here is striking, but the gaudy colour compared to the images of the painting in reality (or on the National Gallery's web site). Obviously online reproductions can never be 100% faithful to the original, but the example used looks like it has been heavily photoshopped with the saturation turned up to the max! A lot of the subtlety of what is indisputably a masterpiece is lost. The Yowser (talk) 12:14, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw the painting 2 days ago, and it's an awful lot more orange than that. :File:Fighting Temeraire.jpg is more accurate in terms of the colours, but is lower resolution. Modest Genius talk 21:29, 11 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor Image colour control 

message: In the painting the hulk is being towed away from the setting sun, which has been called historically inaccurate.  In his article in Art Quarterly (cited in the "References" section), Louis Hawes states:
Also, the locale of the painting may possibly be "Lime House Reach," near Greenwich and Rotherhithe, which runs south for a brief stretch; this is the one area along the Thames where the setting September sun would appear, in actuality, to the right of the ship, albeit considerably farther to the right than in the painting.
In any event, the "historical inaccuracies" are beside the point.  Turner created a symbolic work of art event.  As Hawes states:  "Turner, of course, would have felt free to place the sun wherever he did regardless of what he actually saw."  Watts, fn 6 at p. 43.  The painting is no more a realistic depiction of an actual event than is Rain, Steam and Speed – The Great Western Railway or The Burning of the Houses of Lords and Commons.  Kablammo (talk) 01:18, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Er, yes. The article does in fact cover pretty much all that. Johnbod (talk) 03:20, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artistic licence <small><small>(or "license" as we spell it on this side of the pond)</small></small> 

message: I can't help thinking that it's not just the painter who enjoyed some artistic licence; the author of some of the text on this page did so as well.
While I have issue with a couple of small linguistic choices, the one that I find most difficult to swallow is: "The beauty of the old ship is in stark contrast to the dirty blackened tugboat with its tall smokestack, which scurries across the still surface of the river".
Even though the mass of a warship back in the 1800s would only be a small fraction those iron and steel ships that came later, there is no possibility that a vessel towing another, would "scurry" across a river. Not just because it probably couldn't "scurry" but, more importantly, if it "scurried" it wouldn't be able to slow down or stop. Particularly on a busy river. --621PWC (talk) 15:37, 10 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scurries Across the Water? 

message: Re: . I'm happy to discuss this. I've been working on developing , and discussion has been on the talk page. You said it looks terrible - can you be more specific please? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 01:04, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: , I have started a discussion on the subject at the talk page for the arts project.  Kablammo
(talk) 03:00, 8 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox