Talk:Mick Mars

message: Tommy definitely knew Vince from HS, but Mick was the one who pushed to get Vince in the band. Mick was older and wiser and much more of an eye for what it took to go somewhere. It is obvious that Nikki and Tommy really looked to him for direction early on. On the website Chronological Crue it says, "With a phone call later to Nikki and Tommy from Mick, they decide O’Dean is not going to cut it as their singer, so he’s fired. Mick says he wants the singer from Rockandi to be in the band, due to the way he wooed the females in the audience when they saw him perform." Obnviously mick knew the importance of having a charismatic lead singer in the fornt of the band. though Vince has very limited vocal range, he looked good, was a good showman and got girls. 
No doubt Mick persuaded Tommy to do the lifting upside down drum thing after his experience with the lifting drum riser in his White Horse days.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.192.113.226 (talk) 21:21, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: i don't see how removing verifiable information in any way adds to an article. Joeyramoney 04:18, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Random unrelated discussions

message: I added an external link to the Official Motley crue site www.motley.com because it contains further info about the subject of the article and he is currently on tour with the band.  So it makes sense that the link be in the article...right?  :-)  Monkeybreath 03:25, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I added external link to Motley Crue Site 

message: There were two sets of references for name, place of birth and date of birth. I've removed one as I don't think these things need to be confirmed twice. Thanks INXS-Girl 18:21, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: I live in Terre Haute, IN, and work for Vigo County and have confirmed through the Vital Records office, that no person named Bob or Robert Deal, was born in Vigo County (Terre Haute, CITY), on or about May 4, 1951. 
I submitted a request asking for the information. I am not a direct a family member so using Bob's maternal mother and fathers information, I submitted a request for birth records, only asking for a yes or no on the specific data pertaining to his date of birth, which is legal since I have the parental names, I was able to confirm that no such person was born in this city, or county for that matter, for date given, with that name. As a matter of fact, the year 1951, has no Deals being born in this county at all.
http://www.vigocounty.org/health/vitalstats.asp  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rvdmrz3r0 (talk • contribs) 17:53, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect birth place 

message: I just removed a comment about him now being a lot shorter, but couldn't find a source other than a youtube comment: http://youtube.com/watch?v=iPkR4dsdKIw Mathmo Talk 04:10, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: my revert:  Mathmo Talk 04:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Height? 

message: I am not sure if anyone else has noticed but the birth dates entered on two separate locations do not match.
It is listed that Mick was born in May of '51 in the first line but underneath the photo in the details section someone has entered Apr of '51. Might want to check facts and ensure everything is proofed before posting on a popular and renowned site!
Whiskeylee (talk) 03:03, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth Dates not matched 

message: Someone keeps changing the birth dates of Mick Mars. He was originally born on May 4 1951 but someone keeps putting April 29 1950. This page has to be protected  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.159.92.196 (talk) 18:10, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You are one of the ones who kept changing the text back April 29 1950, as seen here and here with my reverts of you. Considering that the two sources in the first line of the article lead (intro) give different birth dates, I'm not sure when he was born. But I know that people can't be "originally born" somewhere. If we are going to go by 1951 for his birth date like the second source, instead of the 1955 date like the first source, then we should remove the first source. As alternative, we can include that his birth date is reported differently in sources (and WP:Reliable sources to show that). Flyer22 (talk) 18:33, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Allmusic.com here does say "April 4, 1955 in Terre Haute, IN". If we have reliable sources saying 1950, 1951 and 1955, we have to either confirm a date or do a "sources differ" like at Mariah Carey. Otherwise we can't include a birth date since that would be just one editor's POV.--Tenebrae (talk) 22:04, 28 January 2014 (UTC)

text: Unfortunately personal knowledge is not a reliable source.  - Mlpearc (open channel) 19:59, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  We can't say, "so-and-so told me this so it's true." We don't know who anyone is on Wikipedia and whether what they say is true or not. That's why we have to use credible, published, reliable sources. --159.123.253.101 (talk) 16:13, 12 October 2016 (UTC)

text: And not in 1955, an alternate birth year currently shown. Mars married Sharon E Copas in Las Vegas on January 3, 1971 (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VVZC-LR9). If born in 1955, he would have been 15 years old at the time of that marriage. —Danorton (talk) 17:53, 28 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the article doesn't mention him marrying a Sharon E. Copas, how do we know it's the same Robert Deal? It's not a terribly uncommon name. --Tenebrae (talk) 00:03, 29 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Good. You shouldn't take my word for it. I reaffirm my assertion and encourage you to review the previously cited sources and weigh their reliability and authority. —Danorton (talk) 04:22, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: One date comes from the author of an interview with Mars, the other from the well-established music reference source AllMusic.com. One of them is wrong, likely because Mars himself has been elusive about the date, but these are equally WP:RS. At some point, maybe when he's dead and his public information on the Social Security Death Index comes up, or maybe if he's ever arrested and police release such public information as his birth date, we'll be able to know. --Tenebrae (talk) 20:46, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Tenebrae, I just saw this. Flyer22 Reborn (talk) 20:31, 22 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Despite a redlink editor's uncited claim here, a Twitter post by the subject is a WP:PRIMARY source that may or may not be a truthful claim, which is why it does not trump or veto WP:SECONDARY sources. --Tenebrae (talk) 15:21, 25 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mick mars was born in 1951 not 1950 

message: Long live the king!  (And garbage grove Indians)
Network Solutions
mickmars.tv expired on 08/25/2015 and is pending renewal or deletion" — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.5.171.110 (talk) 06:49, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  External official web site appears defunct 

message: Hello, Cristabelo. Thanks for correcting the name (Mars) I used in the equipment section. My mistake. As for your changes to Fender and Stratocaster, I believe those words should have an initial capital letter. So I have reverted your changes accordingly. Regards, BuzzWeiser196 (talk) 11:07, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Equipment

message: Mick mars collaborated with alice cooper in the allum hey stupid (1991) writing with nikki sixx and j. vallance e cooper "die for you"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.7.86.154 (talk) 11:30, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  die for you - alice cooper 

message: He wasn't the Co founder at all, he was in fact the last guy to join after Greg Leon left. Tommy Lee and Nikki Six were in fact the founders of the group. 2A02:C7C:BC5F:2000:A1C0:4D25:69AA:B31F (talk) 05:03, 18 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Co Founder...