Talk:Man

message: The picture doesn't seem real. It appears with a lot of filters. Here I would advise to have some common representation of the gender. 37.248.224.82 (talk) 16:57, 26 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The picture was chosen after considerable discussion among many options and is unlikely to change anytime soon. It is very much a real photo, taken by a professional photographer. Unless you can identify a more concrete issue, the picture will stay. CaptainEek Edits Ho Cap'n!⚓ 17:51, 26 October 2023 (UTC)

text: I thought race was a "social construct". By that rationale any male should qualify. 99.75.147.243 (talk) 16:36, 23 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The image in the man section isolates one race and the image is not natura 

message: I added more photos two men from two races why was it reverted ? --Ernne (talk) 16:00, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The current picture is the result of multiple discussions. Have a look through the archives (linked at the top). Also, take note that at the top of this talk page there's the remark "Any image which has not shown support here will be removed." So, if you want to add or change the pics, please start the discussion here on the talk page. Thanks! Masterhatch (talk) 16:20, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth, I support the idea of using multiple images rather than just one.  I recall some push back on that idea (perhaps at the Woman article?) but I don't recall why.  It seems like using multiple images (with a reasonable cap on the number) might be a better option here.  That is consistent with articles such as SUV. Springee (talk) 16:24, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Generally speaking, I don't really care if there are more picture added. There are two things I do oppose, though. I'd hate to see a mass spamming of pics added (that's why we have commons, right?) and I'd oppose trying to add pics based on trying to represent all races. This article is not titled "Races of men" (or the like), it is simply "Man". We don't need to have pics trying to represent each and every race or type of man out there. Again, we have commons for that. Masterhatch (talk) 18:05, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

text: I'm not really sure what your issue is. This article has pictures of white men, black men, east Asian (although he's naked), and south Asian. And I never said there shouldn't be more pics. I said there shouldn't be too many pics (which is how I feel about all wikipedia articles) and I object to adding pics to merely balance the races. I happen to think the lead pic is pretty good (better than the lead pic for woman). In the past, there has been a lot of fighting about the lead pics for man and woman and lately it's been really calm (thankfully). So, as it says at the top, get consensus before adding more pics. I suggest you introduce the pics you want to add to the main here at the talk page. Who knows, maybe people here will like your ideas. If not, well there's thousands of pics of men in the commons. Masterhatch (talk) 20:03, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Ernne, Masterhatch is correct in that what image to use in this article and at Woman was a big thing a while back.  While I support adding more images please don't assume that anyone who says "status quo" is just trying to be obstructionist or anything like that.  Sometimes editors are just trying to make sure things stay under control and changes that had a lot of input are not undone/changed again without getting sufficient input. Springee (talk) 21:23, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

text: If nobody is more a "Man" than anybody else then why the first  image is only South Asian as if people from other continents are less men?, even if race do not exist, continents and different facial features exist I actually like the photo of the South Asian man but it is not enough that is why I added two more photos. --Ernne (talk) 06:56, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't bother me that the man in the existing picture looks somewhat different from me. HiLo48 (talk) 07:14, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

text: See MOS:PEOPLEGALLERY, which says . Even if we do add those additional two images to the lead, people will find other things about the lead images to complain about (lack of Latin/Native American men, lack of Trans men, lack of fat men, lack of disabled men, etc). Some1 (talk) 14:04, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

text: If we replace the lead image with an artistic depiction (painting, drawing, etc.) of a man (which I think some people have proposed before, at least on the Woman article if I remember correctly), there will be complaints that we're needlessly using art when we have photographs of actual human men available for use. Anyway, arguments made at the Woman lead image RfC discussion (link: ) are similar (will be similar) to the arguments made here regarding the lead image on this article. Some1 (talk) 14:44, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

text: The only reason I can imagine anyone wanting more than one photo is "He doesn't look like me." That's an appalling reason. HiLo48 (talk) 21:40, 10 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Why? We already had a man. HiLo48 (talk) 08:41, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Is the man in that photo coloured? In my country, no such racial label exists. HiLo48 (talk) 20:58, 11 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia is global. If we have to apply American bigotry, I will quit. HiLo48 (talk) 22:26, 12 March 2024 (UTC)

text: The racial labelling and differentiation that goes on amongst too many people is depressing. I don't look a lot like the bloke in the current pic, but I know we are both men. His pic represents me just fine. How does he not represent you? Please answer without using discredited and scientifically meaningless racial labels. HiLo48 (talk) 01:38, 22 March 2024 (UTC)

text: I don't understand your concern. The article is called Man. We have a picture of a man. What's wrong with it? HiLo48 (talk) 22:58, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Its not a good photo and it is only torso up. LegalSmeagolian (talk) 01:44, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't see any problem with the quality of the photo, but yes, perhaps we could improve on it being only a photo of the upper half of a man's body. Any suggestions? HiLo48 (talk) 02:22, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I've linked an image on the sandbox page. LegalSmeagolian (talk) 02:31, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  more races