Talk:Auditorium Building

message: An intersection or location in the city would be nice.  Hopefully, Meelar 06:25, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: We now have an address.  What I'd really like is a picture or two.  If anyone is local and is willing to take a couple shots, that'd be great. Isomorphic 07:33, 30 Mar 2004 (UTC)
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message: This edifice is listed (in the succession template at the bottom of the page) as having been the world's tallest building for a while.
But according to the CTBUH, who ought to know if anyone does, the title of "tallest building" was passed directly from the Home Insurance Building to the New York World building. Figuring these things out is the CTBUH's stock in trade, so they must have a good reason for saying this.
And the article body (and the ref for the passage) says it was the tallest building in the city and the largest (not tallest) in the country.
On the other hand, the ref indeed says it was 270 feet tall, which would make it taller than Home Insurance. And the New York World building wasn't opened until 1890. And The Auditorium was dedicated on December 9, 1889 and a public performance made then also.
However:
*The building may not have been completed to its present height on December 9, 1889.
*And though the World Building was completed on "December 10, 1890" it may have reached its full height before that.
*And to extrapolate that the Auditorium building was ever the tallest in the world is WP:Original research and WP:Synthesis and indeed goes against what sources we have.
So given all that I've removed it from the succession of "world's tallest building" and it shouldn't be restored absent a reliable source saying that it was. (And note that I am also editing the article Home Insurance Building and New York World Building to stitch the gap; if this succession box is restored here, those articles would need to be re-edited also). Herostratus (talk) 12:12, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Additionally, St. Michael's Church is 290 feet tall and was completed in 1869. The Chicago Board of Trade Building (not the currently standing one) was completed in 1885 at over 300 feet high. I don't believe the Auditorium Building was ever the tallest building in Chicago. There's also no citation for the claim about being the "largest" in the United States. I'm going to remove both spurious claims for now. Hopefully anyone who wishes to keep the "largest" claim in the article will be able to provide some citation. Rexodus (talk) 15:33, 5 August 2020 (UTC)
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message: great cc postcard image here:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/boston_public_library/8032749451/in/set-72157626791024941
Victor Grigas (talk) 04:45, 24 September 2014 (UTC)
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message: The article was recently renamed, from "Auditorium Building" to "Auditorium Building, Chicago". It seems to me that the original name is better.  Wikipedia:Article titles#Precision and disambiguation says, "Usually, titles should be precise enough to unambiguously define the topical scope of the article, but no more precise than that."  There's not another Wikipedia article about an Auditorium Building, so it seems preferable to leave it at that, and not add the name of the city.  I therefore suggest renaming the article back to "Auditorium Building". — Mudwater (Talk) 02:28, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: My reason for moving it is unique to this building.  The phrase "Auditorium Building" is so blandly generic, that I felt it needed disambiguation to provide specificity for our readers.  If it was, for instance, the Roosevelt University Auditorium Building or the Shubert Auditorium Building or the Chicago Auditorium Building or Louie Drombowski's Auditorium Building there would be no problem, but, in spite of its notability (which is largely limited to the world of architecture - we're not talking widespread popular recognition of the building on the order of "Eiffel Tower" or "Empire State Building"), just plain old "Auditorium Building" is, at least to me, much too naked.That said, I'm not married to this, if the consensus is that it should have a different disambiguator (such as "(Chicago)") or go back to its previous name, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. BMK (talk) 02:49, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but upon reading the article, one would ascertain anyway, within the first sentence, that it's in Chicago.On a related note, I think that while WP:NATURAL does apply here, it probably would not benefit the readers in this instance. However, parenthetical disambiguators can be used with articles of this nature that are not about specific localities, but I'm not going to propose such a move right now. Epic Genius (talk) ± 08:22, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
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