Talk:Rumination syndrome

message: There's been a certain video going around the internet that features a girl who has an... "ability" to do exactly what this article is describing. Maybe that girl has this syndrome. If you know what I'm talking about, great, let's discuss. If not, forget you even read this. ShihoMiyano (talk) 23:03, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Viral Video 

message: I'm sorry to have to say it, but this article looks like a mess.  Why is it peppered with parenthetical comments such as "(unsubstantiated theory/hypothesis)," "(necessarily)," "(personal experience)?"  NONE of this belongs within the body of the article.  The text should not serve as a critique of itself.  Issues that are disputed or questioned should be discussed here on the discussion page, OR the text should be edited so that it is SUBSTANTIATED by cited sources, and NOT BASED ON PERSONAL EXPERIENCE that would amount to Original Research.  I don't know what is, or what isn't substatiated, I don't know whose supposed "personal experience" is being referenced, and I know nothing about the subject.  I came to read and learn from the article, and stumbled into a catastrophe of qualifications and skepticism.  Someone please clean this up. zadignose (talk) 18:38, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I've removed much of the material which was unsourced and heavily dependent on qualifying parenthetical comments.  I've also removed statments whose factual nature has been in question at least since being tagged last December.  It looks cleaner and simpler now.  Add back only what can be credited to a reliable source. zadignose (talk) 05:49, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately for an article of this nature, personal experience IS neccessary. This is a condition that practically every doctor on the planet ignores in favour of a diagnosis of Bulimia. My girlfriend suffers from a variety of this syndrome, and I will be adding my personal research. It is just as valid, important, contributing, and truthful as an article off the web (If anything, it's more truthful) - Floydian 01:19, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parenthetical comments, qualifications, expressed skepticism 

message: I have rewritten this article based upon an information sheet I have from the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. The article has been divided into categories, and proper information has been added.
Some information is of my own research. While I am not a licenced doctor, I have witnessed my significant other suffer with this for several years now. Every doctor is so quick to prove their intelligence as a doctor that rather than listening and looking deeper, they dismiss it as bulimia. There is little, if any, accurate information on non-infant non-handicapped sufferers available.
Qualified or not, my "original research" is based on a sufferer, and may be of great assistance to other sufferers. I will fight to retain what I have added. - Floydian (talk) 02:39, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Your qualifications are irrelevant.  Wikipedia's mandatory policy, WP:No original research, is at issue.  You may not include your own original research because it is not WP:Verifiable, even if it is 100% true.  Wikipedia includes what is "verifiable, not True™".  WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:27, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Everything is or will be backed up. The adjectives I use and the way things are described may be based on my accounts, but the facts will all be backed up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Floydian (talk • contribs) 07:18, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: By what? Wikipedia is made from unbiased accounts from reliable sources. Whether your account is truthful or not doesn't matter if it cannot be verified. ShihoMiyano (talk) 22:23, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Makeover vs. 3 

message: Please do not blank the WPMED assessments just because you're working on the article.  The importance of this rare syndrome (to WPMED as a whole) won't change, even if the article is perfect; the quality can be reassessed on request by leaving a note at WP:MEDA.  Thanks, WhatamIdoing (talk) 15:25, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Rare because nobody comes forward and because it's so underdiagnosed. - Floydian (talk) 18:05, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: This is a checklist for myself. Others need not worry unless they are brave and want to tackle the challenge :)
To Do
Section                  	Left to be done
Causes                   	
* Everything
* Recent trauma common
** Surgery
** Job Loss
*Physical injury  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:B:8980:3FE:7501:8888:342D:F764 (talk) 00:25, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a disease. Diseases are caused by pathogens. Rumination is a disorder, as those with it are unable to eat as intended. I'm not sure if I mistakenly labelled it as a disease or not (as far as I remember it only mentions disorder). Tooth enamel was merely stated in a study. In my case there is no damage to the enamel either. Actually, now  that you mention it, my significant other has never experienced heartburn in the past several years.
You should fix also on line 4 the sentence that is missing a subject and a capital letter in the beginning.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.252.88.138 (talk) 17:25, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: However, my intention here is recognition by getting it on the main page, which means sticking to the "facts" published in the one or two studies done on this disorder, unfortunately. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 20:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  To Do 

message: I felt it necessary to strongly emphasize the lack of awareness of this disorder whatsoever within the public or medical community. Every paper cited in that string contains some mention of the fact that there is very little knowledge of the disorder and very little awareness of it. There are only two places in North America that treat the disorder, and not many more that have ever heard of it. These citations back up the usage of the word "severely." - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 17:42, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the long citation string in the first line necessary 

message: Hello.
I am a member of WikiProject Medicine, a Wikipedia wide project that maintains and improves articles that fall under the scope of medicine. Since your article is already under has our tag, I have now reassessed it to make sure if is in the right WikiProject. Upon reassessment of the article, I'd like to make a few points, as shown below:
*Reassess article with class and importance factors
*Reassessed tags for correct placements
*Your article is very clearly written..I would suggest trying out for GA in the very near future!
Leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions. I'm glad this article could fall within our scope, and I hope to see it grow large! Many thanks! Renaissancee (talk) 17:18, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Reassessment for [[WP:MED|WikiProject Medicine]]

message: Could you give use exact numbers rather than severely under-diagnosed Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:36, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No. There are no numbers because there's only one place in North America that treats it, and they have no way of knowing how much more prevalent the condition is. They probably won't for a while because the condition is by and large ignored by doctors, who consider it (get this) benign (which is probably because the pharmaceutical companies can't make money off selling a breathing technique, but that's just my humble opinion there). - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 01:39, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  So if there are no exact numbers, how can it be definitively stated that it is "severely under-diagnosed?"  Sounds like speculation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 162.6.97.20 (talk) 12:16, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be if the sources used in the article didn't state it verbatim. I believe it's in Papadoupolis et al. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 12:53, 12 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Wording

message: If anyone is able to retrieve the full text to Rumination documented by using combined multichannel intraluminal impedance and manometry, I have a feeling it may contain a diagram, or information useful in drawing a diagram of the actual regurgitation process. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 09:01, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What's the PMID? Strombollii (talk) 21:09, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait, wait. Nevermind. Will look later. Strombollii (talk) 21:13, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, meant to link directly to the pubmed entry. It's fixed. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 21:22, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Journal 

message: I've gone over all the citations to bring them closer to what WP:MEDMOS#Citing medical sources calls for. Now they are rid of the redundant accessdates on journals, most have linked finding aids (pmid, doi, issn, etc) although this still needs more work. I'll invoke citation bot and see what develops next. LeadSongDog come howl 19:35, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please keep the first names and full page numbers. There are a few doctors that are related in family, and share last names. The full numbers for pages aren't forbidden by medmos. Lastly, the spacing after the "{{citation" line helps keep the references clear cut from the text. It doesn't effect the appearance of the article so I'd appreciate them being kept in place. I made the edits to restore these but kept the other changes you made. - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 20:19, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: First names are normally not used on medical articles. I would only use them where there are two authors with the same lastname and initial. The contracted page numbers are also normal. See WP:MEDMOS#Citing medical sources. It's all based on the Uniform Requirements for Manuscripts Submitted to Biomedical Journals, which are reflected in virtually all relevant journals and bibliographic indices, particularly Pubmed.LeadSongDog come howl 20:23, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The medmos only provides a single example that happens to use that, but doesn't address the issue. While consistency is certainly my main focus, including as much information as possible is my second, and appealing to Joe "the moron" Public is third. It really comes down to a somewhat unwritten guideline, so can they be left for now? - ʄɭoʏɗiaɲ τ ¢ 21:32, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You may find this to be more complete. If you want to get it to FA status, have a look at :Category:FA-Class medicine articles, paying particular attention to ones that recently were promoted. Cheers.LeadSongDog come howl 22:13, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: I find it easy to accidentally bring up recently swallowed icecream, would that be an example of regurgitation or more likely just incomplete swallowing? (I suspect I have a hiatal hernia)
Also, is there a term for being able to easily inhale air into the stomach (not just swallowing air)?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.73.70.113 (talk) 02:14, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  ice cream 

message: Hi there - can I ask if there is a reason why there is no differential or discussion on how this disease compares to, and differs from, Achalasia. Just to give you a quick quote (from Wikipedia): "Achalasia is characterized by difficulty swallowing, regurgitation, and sometimes chest pain." and further "The main symptoms of achalasia are dysphagia (difficulty in swallowing), regurgitation of undigested food, chest pain behind the sternum, and weight loss."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.2.142.226 (talk) 18:42, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Differential: Achalasia 

message: Seems confusion here... Lesion 10:22, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The vomit is odourless, but halitosis is a common result of everything. - Floydian τ ¢ 13:43, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, thanks for that clarification. Maybe the halitosis is the result of increased bacterial activity in the retentive surface created by (o)esophageal erosions... Lesion 14:34, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm totally not qualified medically to know (I only wrote this article because my s.o. at the time was afflicted by it, only to be told again and again by pompous non-curious doctors that she was doing it to herself; regardless she didn't have any halitosis)... but I'd hazard to guess that it's either destroying helpful bacteria or regurgitating odour-causing bacteria. - Floydian τ ¢ 22:08, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction in lead? 

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