Talk:Hermann Hesse

message: The passage about the (supposed) view of Hesse and Sidharta in Asian cultures seems speculative and out of place in an encyclopedia article. I'll remove it unless anyone cares to defend it.
--Liss 13:47, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Developed a sterile conservatism in later life (In Glasperlenspiel, all music after Johann Sebastian Bach is denounced as superficial and bad, Ludwig van Beethoven being an extreme example of bad taste, his best supposedly the 24 variations over a theme by Diabelli, etc., etc. 
I tried to fix that sentence, and removed some of the content ("his best supposedly the 24 variations over a theme by Diabelli"), since I wasn't sure what it was referring to.  Skagedal 16:47, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  old talk 

message: the citiation to "O Friends, Not These Tones" is not correct.  It points to the text of the lyrics to a Beethoven symphony?
--[User:Anon.]  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.210.245.138 (talk) 19:36, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  footnote problem 

message: there is a collection of hesse's poetry entitled 'crisis'.
the version i once owned had both the original german and the english translations.
since i don't know the publication date, i have not amended the article.
AoF
:Yes, something on his poetry (and Strauss's "Four Last Songs"?) would be great.  —JerryFriedman 00:02, 18 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  bibliography 

message: An external link to the Hermann Hesse page has been added.  This page is an authoritative source, in English and German, with current and archived articles on Hesse, as well as monthly features of the author's work. Donw714 18:13, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link added 

message: A new item has been added to the bibliography,  Wandering (Wanderung: Aufzeichnungen) from 1920.  The citation was taken from the item itself, which I have in hand.  Don 18:04, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliographic item added 

message: For some reason the word Chesse appears several times instead of Hesse. I don't know if this is some sort of weird typo, transliteration error, vandalism, or what. I corrected some but a find/replace function would be better (which cannot be done through my browser, and I did not want to copy/and paste the whole article into an editor and then back because then formatting would be lost.) V-pizz 23:15, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that. It was vandalism by 204.8.67.83 on 4 October. I did find a few more "Chesse" which I corrected. --Bruce1ee 06:34, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chesse? 

message: I've reverted the edit by 84.254.51.163 on 4 June 2007 claiming that Hesse was a Rosicrucianist. Hesse alluded to Rosicrucianism in Journey to the East and The Glass Bead Game but that doesn't necessary mean he was a Rosicrucianist. I did a quick Google but found no reference to support this claim. If someone can provide a source I'd be happy to put the statement back. --Bruce1ee 04:58, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was Hesse a Rosicrucianist? 

message: This article was automatically  assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 16:43, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: Is this a joke? Its a word for word translation (obviously using a dictionary). The only hit on the Internet for this is some obscure article at the University of California. All other hits agree with "One Hour after Midnight". TinyMark 14:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's "One Hour After Midnight". User:Parvulus changed "After" to "Behind", which I reverted. --Bruce1ee 15:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: One Hour behind Midnight?

message: http://www.allposters.com/-sp/Hermann-Hesse-Posters_i2370068_.htm
I have repeatedly run into this painting of Hermann Hesse by Andy Warhol, and I've never really known the background on it. I was hoping it would be here on wikipedia, but alas! Anyone have any info?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.113.228.213 (talk) 20:05, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warhol Painting 

message: "The work has been translated into most of the Indian languages." Aren't there a huge number of them? What reference shows they've been translated into most of them? Piano non troppo (talk) 09:53, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tagged that statement with "citation needed". --Bruce1eetalk 05:22, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sentence correct?

message: I've changed a little of the punctuation so the article makes more sense. 
Spanglej (talk) 22:43, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Very Odd Punctuation

message: I read Hesse in German and English and do not believe that an artcle on Hesse in English would be identical to an article for a German reader: most English-speaking readers of Hesse are not versed in German literature.  This differene in background is essential to any assessment of the writer.  There is also a distinct difference between the assessment of the life of the young man Hesse for a reader in England and a reader in the USA (at least west of Boston.)  Cross-cultural understanding is not assimilation - let alone mere translation.  The young German reader preparing to enter University is in a situation very unlike that of the young American in,say, Minneapolis.  The contract with a young reader in France is even greater: the life of a young Hesse in France would be that of a "vie ratee".  It is worth remembering that the North American reader is not facing "A Levels".
The opening pages of Magister Ludi should be a sufficient reminder that a society that is strongly hierarchical views a biography somewhat differently from ones whose social strata are less obvious - as in America west of Boston or Canada both east and west of Toronto's "Rosedale".
The intended wiki neutrality is not likley achieved or even well-served by translation. Translation is of course useful for fact-checking.
Brodsky for the Saint Petersburg reader is not Brodsky for the Boston reader.  This is not relativism, but rather respect and regard for context.  It is most often seen at work in the choice of an author to write an "introduction" to a work of literature in translation.
Please note that I also read daily in French and Russian and lesss often in Spanish.  I struggle in Italian, Japanese and Polish.
An assessment of Hesse for Hindu readers would be as different as an assessment for Iranian readers. 
In the case of my native Canada, two English-language writers whose articles would not bear translation well would be Robertson Davies and Margaret Atwood.  Similar issues arise even within the French language for Quebec poets who chose to live their adult lives in Paris.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Grshiplett (talk • contribs) 17:23, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think anyone is arguing against that.  A detailed translation of an article in the author's native language wikipedia is a great start and outline.  No one has been keeping it in sync-step with the german wikipedia... (John User:Jwy talk) 18:01, 22 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Youth and Family background 

message: I don't follow the point about companionship here - companionship in his new marriage being reflected in Narziss and Goldmund.  There is quite a lot of shagging in Narziss and Goldmund. That's one reason it is so popular with German teenagers. 122.163.202.211 (talk) 14:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Narziss and Goldmund/Companionship 

message: I suggest we cut the "Hermann Hesse in popular culture" section. It is mostly a list of media inspired by Hesse's works. Every famous artist has hundreds of people who are inspired by their work. The list is not comprehensive or notable, in my view.  WP:TRIV says "Trivia sections should be avoided."  Any objections? Thanks Spanglej (talk) 04:03, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hermann Hesse in popular culture 

message: According to the article Hesse was born Russian and German, as his father was a Russian Citizen. I have added this to the lede and info box. Please explain here if you think it should not be so.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.159.102.228 (talk) 19:19, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This is badly worded. At least in Australian English, "German born" means "born in German", and not "born with German citizenship". Perhaps better would be "born in Germany to a Russian father, and [I assume] German mother"? --naught101 (talk) 23:10, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There are Germans in Russia, and there used to be more of them, especially in what was then Russia but is now the states of the Balticum. Hence "born to a Russian father" is misleading, even more so than "born to an Estonian father". Born to a Baltic German father, it is. - I wonder btw. that this made him a German citizen at all. Baltic Germans, sure, could probably without complications migrate to Germany and accept a citizenship, but I'd have suppose that as far as citizenship goes, they were Russians only, and upon accepting a German citizenship, they might have lost the Russian one. And a marrying woman lost whatever was her own citizenship and acquired her husband's.--77.4.70.255 (talk) 11:07, 29 May 2013 (UTC)

text: By birth, Hesse was not a citizen of the German Empire but held Russian citizenship only as both is parents did not hold German citizenship at that time. Hesse's great-grandfather was born from German parents in the German town of Lübeck but emigrated to what is Estonia nowadays where he became a Rusian subject. They were ethnic Germans but legally Russians.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:45:4905:A16B:34EF:14F9:E3C6:A41 (talk) 20:01, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Herman Hesse as Russian 

message: Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: "All the gods and devils that have ever existed are in us," said Herman Hesse and added: "All of them are in us as a possibility, as desire, as outputs." 78.3.213.194 (talk) 11:00, 26 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gods and devils are in us 

message: 'To be torn out of a dull, capitalistic peace was good for many Germans. It seems to me that a true artist would find greater value in a nation of men who have faced death and who know the immediacy and freshness of camplife' 
105.227.199.138 (talk) 16:06, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Support for war 

message: The "Influence" section does not mention popularity of Hesse with American youth in the 1930s or 1940s. I have long understood that Hesse was popular, at least with a segment of American youth, in the 1930s or 1940s. Basil Creighton translated Steppenwolf into English in 1929, for example, which would have made Hesse available. Also, Bernhard Zeller, in his Hermann Hesse: An Illustrated Biography, gives a list of English translations of Hesse. These include (in addition to Steppenwolf): Gertrude, translated in 1915 by A. G. Lewisohn as Gertrude and I; Demian translated by N. H. Priday in 1923; and Narziss und Goldmund, translated by Geoffrey Dunlop in 1932 as Death and the Lover; Gdw1948 (talk) 20:28, 24 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popularity in America 

message: There is a new movie adaptation of this book, and it was nevertheless deleted from the list. 2800:810:5E4:23D1:919:664C:F776:1D73 (talk) 05:40, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hola Argentina: I initially reverted (your?) addition of the film because it introduced a redlink (link to a non-existent article on this Wikipedia). Today, on seeing your post here, I searched for the film and found that it does have an article on the German Wikipedia, and re-added the listing with the appropriate interlanguage link. Thanks for bringing it up. Eric talk 11:52, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  2020 film ''Narziss und Goldmund''