Template talk:Autism rights movement

message: Should TG be added to this template?  WLU 14:06, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Temple Grandin

message: The list of people and organizations is non-neutral and biased.  The inclusion of this "Autism rights movement" section in this article on Amanda Baggs is biased, apparently intended to promote the views and philosophy of the "Autism rights movement."  This section reads like an advertisement and promotional, and as such is not appropriate for wikipedia.--Appto (talk) 06:49, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Then deal with the article; you don't put a tag on a template when your issue is with an article.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 06:56, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template misuse 

message: Autism Speaks is an autism awareness organisation, but it is not an autism rights organisation. Therefor I don't think it belongs on the list of autism rights organisations. --Wikiman2718 (talk) 17:36, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Autism Speaks 

message: For example, over the past year or so Devon Price has emerged as a major thought leader in the autism rights movement due primarily to his book Unmasking Autism: Discovering the New Faces of Neurodiversity. Is it appropriate to add a link to this template? —siroχo 10:12, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: As I already addressed here, in my opinion, this would require an independent, third-party source.--TempusTacet (talk) 12:41, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I'll not add a link to the article unless such a source is found. —siroχo 08:54, 18 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi @Siroxo, I've re-considered my position and added Devon Price to the template. I still don't see the sources supporting him to be an autism rights advocate but I believe that through his writing he is a notable voice in the discussion around & promotion of the Neurodiversity paradigm, which is the current title of the template.--TempusTacet (talk) 12:51, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes sense! Thanks —siroχo 05:29, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What are the criteria for adding a link to a biography to the template? 

message: While Simon Baron-Cohen is undoubtedly a major figure in autism research, it seems questionable to include his bio on this autism rights template. I'd argue (reserving judgement) that Baron-Cohen's contributions to the field have been "rights-agnostic". He's proposed ideas that have indirectly both set back (eg. extreme male brain, mind-blindness) and helped the autism rights' movement (eg. double-empathy), without any demonstrated intent in either direction.
I propose removing Baron-Cohen's bio from this template, I'll plan to do so after waiting at least a few weeks for comment. —siroχo 10:23, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the proposal. He seems to have significantly changed his views over the course of his career and has generally been sympathetic to the autism rights movement in recent years, but he's never claimed to be an autism rights advocate nor has (to my knowledge) anyone else claimed that he is.--TempusTacet (talk) 12:24, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for making the update! —siroχo 16:46, 1 May 2023 (UTC)

text: Support. I have yet to see Baron-Cohen claiming to be an autism rights advocate, nor have I heard anyone claiming him to be one. Cflam01 (talk) 13:55, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simon Baron-Cohen