Talk:North Macedonia/Archive 12

message: In my ongoing efforts to try to include every country on the planet included in the scope of a WikiProject, I have proposed a new project on Southern Europe at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#Southern Europe whose scope would include the Republic of Macedonia. Any interested parties are more than welcome to add their names there, so we can see if there is enough interest to start such a project. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:57, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed WikiProject 

message: Surely this line is FYROM propaganda, but everytime someone tries to alter the line it is reverted, LOL.
Here is the latest general good relations - the same as before - from ERT News today!
Greece accuses FYROM of 'falsifying' history in Alexander the Great row
ATHENS: Greece on Thursday reacted angrily to a decision by the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia (FYROM) to rename its capital's main airport after Alexander the Great, the famed warrior-king of antiquity that Greece considers an integral part of its own cultural heritage.
"History cannot change, or be falsified, 2,000 years on," Greek Foreign Minister Dora Bakoyannis said in a statement. Bakoyannis was responding to an announcement by her FYROM counterpart Antonio Milososki that the Skopje international airport is to be renamed 'Alexander of Macedon', the foreign ministry said.
"With its announcement today, (FYROM) once again seeks false supports in the past," the Greek foreign minister said. "Alexander the Great is a leading figure of global appeal...(a) Greek conqueror who established himself in history by spreading Greek culture across the entire known world," Bakoyannis added.
Greece is also at loggerheads with its tiny northern neighbour over its name, blocking the former Yugoslav province's efforts to gain international recognition as "Macedonia" after breaking away from Belgrade in 1991. Skopje wants the name Republic of Macedonia, as laid down in its constitution, to be used globally.
But Macedonia is also the name of a northern Greek region which was the seat of power of Alexander the Great, remembered for his conquest of Asia as far as modern-day India in the fourth century BC.
Athens threatens to block FYROM's ambitions to join the European Union and NATO unless it agrees to a compromise in a dispute over its name. "This behaviour is incompatible with (FYROM's) obligations for good neighbourly relations..and its pledges to the EU, and does not further its Euro-Atlantic aspirations," Bakoyannis said on Thursday.
In 1994, Athens imposed an embargo over the issue that cost FYROM some 2.2 billion dollars, according to Skopje's estimates. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Reaper7 (talk • contribs) 22:00, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Reaper7, you are right about the accrimony over the name and the (mis)appropriation of Greek cultural heritage. But in terms of trade, defence policy, anti-terrorism and even over many cultural matters, the two countries get on very well. They are even engaged in joint archaeological co-operation on their border. If you have evidence to the contrary (other than cultural heritage) please make it known. Politis 23:58, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The blocade was 14 years ago. I just think that bilateral relations between 2 countries take place across many different sectors. Some exchanges work very well, others do not. So it is our responsibility to locate those areas, give a clear picture and avoid generalising. For bad relations across most sectors look at the Republic of Cyprus and Northern Cyprus, or Azerbaidjan and Armenia, North and South Korea, India and Pakistan, etc... But Athens and Skopje share many common interests. Politis 02:55, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes they have good relations and this is the way it should be. The name is the only difference between them. It is of prime strategic importance for Greece that FYROM survives and becomes a healthy state ready to be integrated into the EU.--   Avg    20:45, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FYROM 'Generally has good relations with Greece.' ??? 

message: Editors of this page may be interested in the Turks in Macedonia article, created 10 days ago. Best regards, Evv 18:54, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turks in Macedonia 

message: Does the country have a motto? If so, it needs to be included. Politis 14:30, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Motto

message: There is an ongoing discussion in Talk:Slavic language (Greece) and Talk:Macedonian language about this controversial article with a controversial heading. Please take a look. --Michkalas 14:30, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Slavic language (Greece)]] 

message: In my opinion, 'South Serbia' should not redirect here. What is now the country called 'Macedonia', was known as 'South Serbia' between the world wars, at the same time as its poulation was subjected to a campaign of Serbianisation. The term 'South Serbia' now is more often used to refer to Kosovo and the areas around it, or (particularly in the Serbian press) to the Albanian-inhabited municipalities of Preševo, Bujanovac and Medveđa, discussed in Wikipedia under Preševo Valley. Mattwhiteski 10:04, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, you can't change history retroactively. South Serbia is a historic name of the FYR, and the redirect is appropriate. sys < in 10:59, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  South Serbia 

message: During the Ottoman rule, the territory of the contemporary Republic of Macedonia was divided into two administrative regions, the Villayet of Bitola comprising the southern part of the country and the Villayet of Prizren comprising the northern part of the country as well as Kosovo. Therefore, there was no Macedonia as an single administrative unit in the Ottoman Empire and there was no partition between the four neighbouring countries.--SOLEMN 12:15, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Division during Ottoman rule