Talk:Thieves' cant

message: Does anyone know what this term means? It has appeared in the article since the 18th of December, 2005, as part of the edit by GBH that established the body of the current article. Supposedly, it is an example of criminal activity, but there is no Wiki article on it, and a Google search only links back to this article. If no one can find a prior usage for this term, I think we ought to remove it. Jeremy.Sanders 02:23, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is "gul-groping"? 

message: This is an encyclodedia not a dictionary. I thought about including examples but once you put some words in how to you select what to leave out. 
There are copyright problems reproducing lists. The article therefore has links to several online dictionaries of cant. The only important on missing is Thomas Harman's but it's not online, (might be on EEBO for subscribers) it's still in copyright.GBH 12:23, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why there are no examples 

message: I browsed on this article wanting to know more, and while there is a somewhat detailed history of the term, I'm left not knowing any more than what I started with.  It would be nice to have examples of this 'language', rather than just origins of the language.  After reading the article, I still don't know what kind of language might be considered Thieves' Cant.
I suggest examples are provided and more notability claims.  Otherwise this article does not seem particuarly useful. Cєlαя∂σяєTalk 21:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article not helpful 

message: I went through http://php.iupui.edu/~asimmon/thief.html and picked out some of the terms that were most familiar to me:
*fence: to sell stolen goods
*footpad: a common thief
*hoodwink: to blindfold or fool someone
*jail bird: prisoner
*lift: to steal
*nab: to seize
*pig: police officer
*rat: an informer; to inform on someone
*sham: a trick
*sneak: a pilferer
*turncoat: one who has betrayed his friends
*twig: realize that something is up
*varlets: criminals
Assuming the page is accurate and these meanings did originate as theives' cant, these would probably be good to use as examples on the page, since at least a few are recognizable today. --Sopoforic 00:32, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Going to continue this on GBH's talk page. --Sopoforic 23:27, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This needs examples - it's really strange without them. Secretlondon 16:05, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed Examples 

message: I've added a   to this. I intend to hit the books and provide some in the next few days; the tag may encourage others to do likewise. I agree that some examples would be good, but think it should be a small list (say a dozen examples). Paul Tracy|\talk 19:09, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References and examples 

message: I have removed this on the grounds that there seems to be basis for any of the alleged connections; they cannot be similar in linguistic construction as Thieves Cant was a vocabulary not a language and had no construction; it did not characteristically include rhyming slang, nor it rely upon local idiom. The latter two elements might characterise Cockney Rhyming Slang but that's completely different and about 250 years later. GBH (talk) 16:41, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cant in Planetscape 

message: Radio 4's Word of Mouth (24/11/2009) covered contemporary criminal slang in prison, described as a 'direct successor' to thieves' cant with a naturally up-to-date vocabulary.
* keenya - house
* warbs - police
* shades - prison officers, etc.Hakluyt bean (talk) 20:54, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obsolete? 

message: François Villon was a french Poet (1431-1463) who wrote some poems using the french Thieves' cant called Jargon. This may help...--Gozor136 (talk) 14:47, 8 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: French pov

message: The illustration in this article is rather strange.  Can some clarity to the reason for its inclusion be added? Huw Powell (talk) 23:35, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: François Villon has some info. Don't know if the image is directly relevant. Just an interim reply. Will look into it a bit more when time permits. RashersTierney (talk) 00:07, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

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message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Rogues' cant,. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  Soumyabrata (talk • subpages) 18:00, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
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message: The Sources section contradicts itself; first it says Thieves' Cant is not derived from Romani, but then it says that Thieves' Cant is very similar to Welsh Romani in terms of vocabulary.  Is Thieves' Cant derived from Romani, or not? Esszet (talk) 02:21, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: That Cant bears similarity to Welsh Romani is not proof that it was derived from that language. "Derived from" is an unambiguous statement of causation - "similarity" is a more flexible statement of their being alike. I see no strong contradiction here. PhotogenicScientist (talk) 18:09, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources section