Talk:Pyramid Song

message: I am removing the above genre classification from the sidebar for this song, which in no way resembles baroque pop. Actual examples of baroque pop for comparison: "God Only Knows," by the Beach Boys, "Walk Away Renee" by The Left Banke, and, in a legitimate stretch, "In My Life" by The Beatles. Probably not Radiohead, and definitely not this song. Drasil 05:26, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Baroque pop?

message: The song is noted for its odd and often misinterpretted time signature. While its meter is indeed complex, "Pyramid Song" is not ametrical. 
A possible way (among many) to think of the underlying rhythmic pattern is as follows: sixteen eighth notes grouped as 3+3+4+3+3. The piano plays the first note of every group. The song is in a swing time so the odd eighth notes are twice as long as the even eighth notes. The irregular beat of "Pyramid song" has frequent 8th note rests that give the complex rhythm its start stop feel. On most of the song, the drum pattern seems to consists of 3+2+8+3, usually with a tom roll making up the last unit of three.
The time signature is 4/4. The piano being syncopated doesn't change this. The piano rhythm is 2 dotted eighths, 2 eighths (tied) and then 2 more dotted eighths. Here it is drawn in paint: http://i.imgur.com/zG70VFn.png This adds up to two bars of 4/4. The drums, the melody of the song all indicate this. In no practical musical notation would you ever see a convoluted series of time signatures (3+3+4+3+3) when it can be easily notated as 4/4, with 4 bar phrases throughout the entire song. It is best to go with the simplest notation possible, so 4/4  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.112.141.239 (talk) 20:59, 5 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I happen to agree with you, but until you provide a reliable source discussing the time signature, we can't add it to the article. Popcornduff (talk) 03:15, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Old Time Signature Section

message: The article states 
"The song was played on Top of the Pops in May 2001, although the performance never aired" 
I'm convinced the latter part of this statement is false; I clearly remember the broadcast (and the baffled look of the teenagers in the audience), and the reference cited does not state that the performance never aired. Propose removing the second part of this sentence.Gareth8118 19:37, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I clearly remember it being aired on ToTP too. It was the first time I'd heard the song. I'm going to go ahead and change this sentence. Cloudy 14:15, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Top of the Pops

message: Feel free to call me a nutter, but by any chance, does the title "Pyramid Song" come from the following... at the end of the video, a light (the protagonist's soul?) dances in the sky with four others, and before they shoot off into space, they form a line of three lights (three clustered together into the central light) which look a lot like the belt of the constellation Orion -- and, as any good conspiracy theorist knows, the three Pyramids of Giza are lined up like the belt of Orion (well, as it was 10,000 years ago, allegedly).  Or, is that more of a backwards reference in the video?  Or, am I reading too much into it?! Dave-ros (talk) 23:12, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the title 

message: Is there any reason to think the lyric came via Tom Waits' "Clap Hands" rather than just directly from "The Clapping Song"?  Neither "Clap Hands" nor "The Clapping Song" seems to include that exact lyric, instead both using, "They all went to heaven in a little row boat".
Bakert (talk) 14:58, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Influences on Lyrics

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message: I remember hearing a claim some time ago about how this song is called "Pyramid Song" because its structure uses the numbers (3, 3, 4, 3, 3), which correspond to number of sides on each of the faces on a pyramid. Can anyone confirm whether this is true? Partofthemachine (talk) 05:06, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That's just a fan myth with no basis in reality. The name is more easily explained by the fact that the lyrics were inspired by an exhibition of Egyptian art Yorke attended — the working title for the song was "Egyptian Song". Popcornfud (talk) 08:52, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Do you have a source for the Egyptian art origin story though? Because otherwise I can't put it in the article. Partofthemachine (talk) 21:01, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That's already in the article, and cited to a reliable source:  Popcornfud (talk) 21:17, 19 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does "Pyramid" refer to?