Talk:Arrack

message: Some of the Arrak I came across while in Indonesia over the last couple of weeks was really strong stuff. I even got some of the local stuff which was more or less moonshine. The stuff I had was apparently based on rice. Even though it didn't taste all that good (somewhat bitter); for some reason I liked the stuff. Bdelisle (talk) 01:56, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Home Brew in Indonesia 

message: Isn't this article about the exact same thing as Arak (drink) ? --Supreme Deliciousness (talk) 01:00, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems to have different ingredients. FunkMonk (talk) 01:06, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Different ingredients, different flavor (Arak is anise flavored) and different color. So no, it appears to be a different drink with a similar  sounding name. --nsaum75¡שיחת!‎ 03:37, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The name is exactly the same, though, the article states this. Difference in transliteraton doesn't really make it a different name, FunkMonk (talk) 08:27, 19 November 2010 (UTC)

text: It's just local variations of the same drink. They all ultimately come from Arabic:  http://etymonline.com/index.php?term=arrack&allowed_in_frame=0 -iopq (talk) 05:44, 1 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replica article 

message: in the Philippines it is called alak..
Merndirigma (talk) 16:29, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  alak 

message: The book cited here as being the proof of some experts believing the name is derived from areca nut is some 180 years old. Whatever the state might have been back then, there is no reason to believe that today. The word for areca in no major language of South-East Asia is areca so the basis for that argument is void. Also, it is a known fact (proven, among other things, linguistically and directly through historical annals) that there has been a long standing contact between Arabic speaking nation(s) and Malayo-Polynesian speakers. Furthermore, the word (a/ai)ra(k/g) has become either universal or a specialised word for various alcoholic beverages (from fruit to rice to horse milk as a material for fermentation) all around Asia. There seems to be no reason to think this book brings any relevant information.
The word areca either sounds similar or is derived from the word for the alcohol. Also, not in Sanskrit-related languages but in some Dravidian is the word for areca remotely resembling arak present.
Therefore I propose to leave out this nonsense and merge this article into the one about arak unless the reason to separate them is some native speaker's (of English, that is) idea that those concepts are completely and utterly unrelated which would of course be a reason to keep them as they are.
A final note - how could a word kasivu become arak?
--Muflon 83 (talk) 23:23, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  separate page <-> areca 

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message: The lede states that arrack is produced in "the Middle East and Turkey", yet neither of these are covered in the main article, which talks mainly about South and SE Asia. For what it's worth, I for one have never seen such a drink in all my time living and travelling in Turkey. I'm wondering if the confusion arises from the Turkish 'national drink' Rakı, which also gets it name from the same Arabic word arak as does arrack, but is a completely different thing. (In fact, a passage in the article Arak (drink) pretty much suggests this.) Unless anyone has any objections, I will edit the lede to better reflect the rest of the article, including removing the reference to ME/Turkey. DoubleGrazing (talk) 09:38, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geography and product confusion 

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message: Spelling: The article spells the key word in several different ways, including "arrack," evidently the common English spelling, "arak," perhaps the Indonesian spelling, which is explained in the article, and "arrak." While I tend to think that the standard English spelling is appropriate, I regret that I do not know how Wikipedia typically resolves such inconsistencies. Source: The Oxford Companion to Spirits and Cocktails (Oxford University Press, 2022), pp. 37–38; 240 [illustration of label]; ISBN 978-0-19-9311113-2. PlaysInPeoria (talk) 17:45, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
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