Talk:Architectural development of the eastern end of cathedrals in England and France

message: Smackbut, you've stuffed up a paragraph which is now jammed between the pictures and barely makes sense. Don't delete the gaps. They are there to maintain a proper layout so that things are readable. If there's a more efficient way of doing it, then i haven't discovered it yet. 
Please use Show Preview. That's what it's for!!
--Amandajm 17:01, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please Mind the Gaps

message: This article, in an unillustrated form was removed from the page at Cathedral architecture of Western Europe because it did not inform upon the topic in a broad sense, but covered one significant aspect it great detail.
It had, moreover, some very general material and some other content that was neither specific to either topic, but to a description of an unrelated aspect of another building which is well covered at another page. 
What remains here is relevant because it shows a development and the relationship between various cathedrals and their architectural histories. 
I've put in those pics that I could find which seem to conveniently illustrate the topic, and some plans which occur elsewhere, for the purpose of being able to make ready comparisons and to clarify what the page is all about.
I didn't rewrite any of it, substantially, but tidied it up and gave it a bit of an intro.
--Amandajm 14:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  East Ends and Chevets 

message: This was one sentence:
:In the still greater movement in the 12th century, when the episcopacy, supported by the emancipated communes, undertook the erection of cathedrals of greater dimensions and the reconstruction of others, in some cases they utilized the old foundations, as in Chartres, Coutances and Auxerre cathedrals, while in others (as at Le Mans) they extended the eastern termination, much in the same way as in many of the early examples in England, with this important difference, that when the apsidal east end was given up (about the middle of the 12th century) in favour of the square east end in England, the French, on the other hand, developed it by doubling the choir aisles and adding to the number of extra chapels; thus in Canterbury, Norwich and Gloucester, there were only three apsidal chapels in the chevet, whereas in Noyon (1150), Soissons (1190), Reims (1212), Tours, Seez, Bayeux (1230), Clermont (1275), Senlis, Limoges, Albi and Narbonne cathedrals there were five; in Amiens, Le Mans and Beauvais, there were seven apsidal chapels, and in Chartres cathedral nine.
(Wow.) In general, the language in this article is very long-winded and complex, no offense to its writer. It needs to be broken down and organized for readability. I made some changes (which hopefully didn't hurt the content) but more are needed. Deco 04:24, 3 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Complexity 

message: Can I put up a request here for more information about the use of paint and colour in medieval cathedrals. In England we are inured to plain stone, but I understand that medieval cathedrals were actually brightly coloured. I am no expert on this, and I hope someone is and can incorporate a suitable write-up into this. Djnjwd 14:48, 17 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of colours in cathedrals 

message: This article Cathedral architecture should fully cover its subject, with sub-sections headed by those Main article:.. headings. Much of this present article ought to be integrated with, for example, Chevet, with a condensed version here. Shouldn't this information be presented stylistically and chronologically: Earliest cathedrals; Romanesque cathedrals; Gothic cathedrals; Renaissance and post-Renaissance cathedrals; Neo-Gothic cathedrals; Modern cathedrals. Regional character should be mentioned under each style. The article Cathedral diagram once again is able to make its points with groundplans. --Wetman 11:13, 23 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  A trunk article? 

message: I'm currently trying to rework this article into a broad statement about cathedral architecture which explains why cathedrals are the way they are, what the styles are and how they differ regionally. 
The article on the Eastern Ends/chevets etc is not, I feel, very useful to the general student who looks up this subject because they know little or nothing about it and would like to know more. I'm keeping the language simple. 
For many people, their interest in architecture from the medieval through to 19th c revivals stems from the proximity or a visit to a cathedral or great church. That is why I am seeking to make this a 'beginners' page rather than a specialists. 
--Amandajm 00:43, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Covering the subject broadly