Talk:Chin Tsi-ang

message: A few comments about this actor's name:
I've come across several different romanizations.  I've tried to redirect them all to this article.    I've only seen it spelled "Tsi-Hang", with an "h", on a couple French sites.  On this page, the site of which has other pages (by other writers) listing her in connection to The Swordswoman of Huangjiang by other names, she's referred to as Xu Qin-fang, which is quite different from the other variations I've seen, and I don't know what to make of it.  I googled the name with "Huangjiang" and the only results it returned were the aforementioned page, the film's page at the IMDB, and two Spanish language pages with the same content.  Based on the description of the character and the actress playing the character in the movie, it is the same person.
Every page I've seen where she is referred to as "Chi-Ang Chi" or "Chi Chi-Ang" has been in reference to her appearance as "the Amah" in In The Mood For Love, usually only listing her among its cast members, with no further information about her specifically.
Adding to the matter is the fact that as it is a Chinese name, her surname is often written first.  I've written the different variations of it with her surname last.  I'm not sure what the Wikipedia standard is, if there is one, regarding east Asian names, but since it's an English website, I didn't think it seemed inappropriate to write the names in western-style order.  Some Chinese are consistently referred to in the West with their surnames last, while the names of other Chinese celebrities are just as soon written or said one way as the other.
There is also an issue with capitalization.  Since the second part of the name after the hyphen is a word in itself, I capitalized it.  But I've come to realize that the second part of her given name after the hyphen is at least as often as not left uncapitalized.  I'm not sure what the reason for that is.  I don't know what the standards are regarding capitalization with Chinese "middle" names.  
It might be helpful if someone fluent in English who reads Chinese was able to find and include her name in Chinese characters in the article, and provide a definitive romanization, or at least explain it here, as well as the capitalization issue.Adrigon 03:07, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your contributions to this article. I found that the Chinese name of this actress is Qian Siying (Chinese: 钱似莺; (Pinyin: Qián Sìyīng) and Chin Tsi-Ang is likely the Guangdong pronunciation of her name. But I really cannot understand why she is called Chen Zhi-Gong here. The Internet Movie Database has data for both Tsi-Ang Chin and Zhi-gong Chen, and each of them claims to be the grandmother of Sammo Hung Kam-Bo. It also lists Zhi-Gong Chen in the cast of  In the Mood for Love, but Yahoo! Movies says the cast is Chin Tsi-ang. As for The Swordswoman of Huangjiang, the IMBD list both Zhi-gong Chen and Tsi-Ang Chin as the cast, but many other sources list none of them! I think that the Internet Movie Database must have some mistakes and is not reliable. --Neo-Jay (talk) 01:07, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I just found that Chin Tsi-Ang's 1930 movie was Jiangnan Nüxia (江南女侠), not Huangjiang Nüxia (荒江女侠). The former version of this article must have confused these two movies! That's why we cannot find Chin Tsi-Ang in Huangjiang Nüxia's cast list.--Neo-Jay (talk) 01:37, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

text: First I changed the header from actress to actor per your request. Second, I don't know whether you can read Chinese. But all reliable Chinese sources of Qian Siying (钱似莺)'s biography say that she starred Jiangnan Nuxia, not Huangjiang Nuxia, in 1930. Xu Qinfang (徐琴芳), the actress in Huangjiang Nuxia, is NOT Qian Siying. They are two completely different persons. There are only 5 pages for google search of lady swordfighter of jiangnan, none of them are reliable sources. Please try to find Chinese sources. Thanks.--Neo-Jay (talk) 04:24, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

text: If you can read Chinese, please see this article. It clearly pointed out the westerners confused Jiangnan Nuxia and Huangjiang Nuxia! --Neo-Jay (talk) 04:30, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Which one are you talking about? He Zhigang? If you can read Chinese, you will know that the name is apparently a Male name. --Neo-Jay (talk) 05:06, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, English sources is preferable as long as they are reliable. Please don't use personal websites, wiki, or BBS as sources (see Wikipedia:Reliable sources). I have provided reliable Chinese sources, form press media and major Internet website. If you cannot read Chinese, why not wait for some Chinese-speaking Wikipedians to step in to have a look at this article? --Neo-Jay (talk) 05:00, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

text: The clip does not show the actor's name. Can you give me the name? Is it 钱似莺 (Qian Siying)? --Neo-Jay (talk) 05:34, 21 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Thank you. --Neo-Jay (talk) 06:00, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
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