Talk:Secondary education

message: :Image:Moanaluastudents.jpg is used in many articles about schools, it would be best to find a replacement before it is deleted for lack of source and copyright.  If we all look together we should find one in no time.  Please post your responses at .  Thanks! Foofy 21:06, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  School students image 

message: What is that comparison table supposed to be showing? There is no description or explanation for it and it makes no sense. What is the February/September thing about? Is that supposed to be the month and age at which that grade/year begins? Because the England/Wales school year begins in September, not February. Abc30 23:50, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree totally, someone in for example year 7 in the England and Wales could be 11yrs and a week or 12yrs and a couple of days. New intake year 7s for this year need to have been born between 1st September 1994 - 31st August 1995. As long as the hit the age of 12 this academic year, they qualify as intake 2006. If it's confusing there's no easy way to explain it, sorry!. It gets even more confusing when it comes to Sixth Form DannyM 11:21, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'e deleted the table. I think probably the only person who understood what it was trying to show was its creator. Abc30 13:38, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparison Table 

message: Strongly Disagree Why would we merge Lyceum with secondary education? Lyceums have little to nothing to do with secondary education, if anything they deal with post-secondary education but they were certainly a prominant enough movement to even be seperate from that. I think someone was haveing too much fun trying to merge things. It is entirely inappropriate to merge lyceums with this article. -BenFranske 02:41, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Clarification - I'm talking about the American Lyceum movement of the 19th century, not the other information. It should be noted that the American Lyceum movement was actually quite different than the Chautauqa movement, I should probably fix that... -BenFranske 02:43, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging [[lyceum]] to this entry 

message: Some aspects of the existing high school article should I think be merged with this entry. High school is only used in certain countries but the existing high school article seems to have gone off at a complete tangent and included paragraphs about secondary education in countries (eg, the UK and the Republic of Ireland) which don't use the words high school at all. It would make much more sense to include those paragraphs in here instead. It makes sense to have a separate article on high schools but it should be confined only to those countries which use the terminology. Is high school perhaps synonymous with secondary education in America? Is that perhaps where the confusion has crept in? Dahliarose 09:39, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merging high school to this entry

message: I think the entries for the countries where grades are used need to be explained properly. We need to know what ages are covered by each grade. It might be obvious if you live in the country concerned but not to someone who lives elsewhere. Presumably different grades will cover different ages in different countries. Dahliarose 10:13, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Grades

message: I hard some where that over half the worlds population that recently finished education compleated secoundary education. Is this true?--J intela (talk) 22:56, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compleation proportion 

message: Sorry for the lazy edit with the cleanup template, but the India section needs to either be shortened and cleaned (and I have not the time nor the knowledge to do so), or reverted to a previous state, it looks like some copy/paste edit. I'll come back later to fix the Argentina section that seems almost empty, and somehow biased (I live in Argentina, and I know CNBA it's ONE of the best highschools available; from that to be THE best in Argentina, I dunno -maybe someone has a verified source?-). El Oso (talk) 05:18, 9 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup needed 

message: I am no native speaker, but what does "sigdren" mean? It appears inside the part about "Hauptschule" in Germany.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.20.28.176 (talk) 08:25, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  sigdren? 

message: There are many countries, but what about Turkey? 137.138.140.236 (talk) 10:48, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: What about Turkey?

message: There is an image of Krabbesholm Højskole close to the entry on Denmark's secondary education. This makes no sense seeing that they don't offer any kind of secondary education. The Danish word højskole translates litterally into high school but actually means a folk high schoolhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folk_high_school, which is probably why it has been chosen.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.225.98.206 (talk) 12:18, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Weird choice of image

message: There are two articles- equally badly written Secondary school and secondary education both are high profile. Secondary education is about the history and theory  sociology and implementation of school systems. A secondary school is a mere element of secondary education. Its scope is restricted to the individual institutions and is far more difficult to define. Please tell me what it actually is. Two things are obvious, complete pages on the secondary education system of a particular country is over prominence. In my opinion, the country specific information belongs in a separate article which is then referred to with a . The synopsis following should just give enough information to satisfy the general reader, for example a worker that is being deported and needs to know what adjustments his children will have to make! 
This raises the interesting possibility that a country specific article School system in XXXXistan could be the landing page  for  in both Secondary school and secondary education. Many of these articles exist. Can anyone suggest whyu it may be inappropriate to create a stub for countries where they are missing?
If no-one has specific objections I will start to clear out - cull- zap text from here or move it where possible to country specific article or neawly crated stub. We then need to address the problem of what non-country specific information do we need to include.
These paragraphs are also posted at Talk:Secondary school
ClemRutter (talk) 09:16, 1 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Attributions- 
Then a section was copied back !
ClemRutter (talk) 15:17, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Improvement by focussing on the title 

message: After having looked at quite a few- the one on Sweden is a good model. It state when education is compulsory and when it is free- it is focused on the education system not individual schools. It covers both ISCED 2 and 3 , with passing reference to other stages. IMHO lists of subjects belong in the main article not here unless they are unusual. It seems a trend to have three or more strands at ISCED 3 (academic, vocational, artistic) and this should be mentioned. Comments? --ClemRutter (talk) 11:52, 31 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: We now have a navbox template linkng the sec ed /sec school sections for each country. In this will be a link to a new list page where we can stable all the descriptions of individual countries- title not settled yet but on the lines of List of secondary education systems by country. ClemRutter (talk) 19:12, 16 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improving the sections on individual countries 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: At the moment, the "History" section is entirely about England. I think info here belongs in History of education in England instead. Alianoraree (talk) 21:23, 2 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  History: just England 

message: There are a lot of citations in this article that reference the article itself, which (I assume) is clearly not acceptable. I tagged one when I first noticed it, but there are a bunch more that I don’t have the time to sort through. It seems based on the other discussions that this page is a mess in general so if anyone has the time and inclination I think it needs a complete overhaul. Andyharbor (talk) 16:48, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: the ref you tagged here is not a circular reference, it is a reference to a Unesco document, "OPERATIONAL DEFINITION OF BASIC EDUCATION" (PDF). UNESCO. UNESCO. 2007. Retrieved 13 March 2017, listed in "Bibliography" at the bottom of the page. Unfortunately yhe link there is broken, but that does not make it a circular ref. DuncanHill (talk) 17:01, 9 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Numerous Circular References 

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message: Clem Rutter's writings on the history of education have been edited somewhat (With more glaring comments and claims, such as that 'all traces of civilisation were erased' from England following the receding of the Roman Empire, or more explicitly single-minded versions of claims about the origins and doctrine of the Protestant Reformation, and perhaps some others), but if they're kept here, they ought to be more substantially revised, in tone, in claims about the limits of Medieval education (I.e. that it was limited to mere 'repetition' of Latin text), in sources of claims (The Catholic Church was explicitly reluctant to service scientific pursuit, navigational expertise, etc. in Medieval education?), and in the post-and-mid-Reformation and earlier Medieval (Notably the former) development of Western European education, if this is necessary for an article on secondary education;  As well as some minor stylistic oddities. 2601:806:4301:B5F0:2DF9:3CED:1100:C97C (talk) 04:06, 1 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  History - Revisions Needed 

message: Googal 103.155.213.237 (talk) 07:16, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secondary education 

message: all 202.51.69.17 (talk) 12:55, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Populations 

message: Balancing   equition  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 105.161.141.12 (talk) 15:45, 11 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chemistry