Talk:Postpartum infections

message: One sixth of women died of this?  Or one sixth of the women who contracted this no died? (67.71.51.92 did not sign)yes that's right however ian muir invented or patented the way in which doctors today do much of the "pre-surgery" action, involving pawn.
:Digging into some of the sources (e.g., https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1139579/ ) there seems to be a consistent confusion throughout the article of "maternal mortality rate" as a percent rather than a permille (e.g., per 1000 deliveries) and consequently an overstatement of mortality by an order of magnitude (i.e, 20-25% rather than 2.0-2.5%).   1/60th of women (16-17:1000) is plausiblly in the range of historical data. --64.121.126.15 (talk) 20:41, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Please visit http://www.crichton-official.com/speeches/speeches_quote04.html and 1/3 way through the article you will encounter an almost verbatim discussion. This article needs to give credit where it is due. (68.162.118.74 did not sign either)
Interesting report here: http://www.aims.org.uk/Journal/Vol12No3/infection.htm AlbertCahalan 19:25, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
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message: I have suggested that Postpartum fever be merged into this article. There isn't much there, and according to that article, it's just another word for Puerperal fever. This would best be done by someone here who's familiar with the topic.Spock of Vulcan (talk) 16:14, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested merge from [[Postpartum fever]] 

message: The plague of physician caused puerperal fever from the 1600's through the 1800's, and how the knowledge of the cause and cure for it was suppressed by the physicians themselves, is one of the most significant events in medical history. It influenced/helped the creation of Germ theory and demonstrates that one of the most dangerous things in medicine is a physician with a closed mind.  Today, the massive spread of fatal C Diff. infections in hospitals is still being caused by people who refuse to wash their hands. Leading the unsanitary once again: the doctors themselves, despite massive educational efforts. 
Good point.Felann96 (talk) 15:16, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical significance 

message: I haven't found much data to substantiate the "Causal Organisms" section of this article. Additionaly, the citation stating that the primary causative organisms are "S. aureus" and "Staphyloccus spp." directs to the Endometrium page. That page has no mention of the aforementioned microbes.
Ian Glenn (talk) 18:29, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Causal Organisms 

message: This article claims that she survived the infection, but Rousseau's biographical article claims she died of puerperal fever nine days after giving birth. Can someone please correct this discrepancy? 209.6.28.116 (talk) 21:59, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suzanne Bernard Rousseau 

message: "Epidemiology is the study (or the science of the study) of the patterns, causes, and effects of health and disease conditions in defined populations." Definition from Wikipedia
The Epidemiology of Puerperal Fever as written here is most definitely NOT equal to the above definition. The section is in desperate need of a rewrite, by someone who understands epidemiology and maybe even can offer a bit of analysis. Right now it is an assemblage of disjointed facts. For all it contributes the entire section -- excepting the opening sentence and the paragraph on history, (the only real paragraph) -- would be better off deleted entirely and moved to the sandbox.
From the section:
Today in the United States, puerperal infection is believed to occur in between one and 8 percent of all deliveries. About three die from puerperal sepsis for every 100,000 deliveries. The single most important risk factor is Caesarean section.[6] 
In the United Kingdom 1985-2005, the number of direct deaths associated with genital tract sepsis per 100,000 maternities was 0.40–0.85.[7] 
The incidence of maternal deaths in the United States is 13 in 100,000.
"3 out of 100,000", and three sentences later "13 out of 100,000" for deaths in the U.S. One sentence is wrong, or at least there are two different studies with very different conclusions that deserve discussion. Separating them is the a line on U.K. deaths written by someone else about one specific type of death (with a death rate of less than 1 in 100,000).
: Overall maternal mortality in the US is 13:100k.   Of those 13, 3 are from puerperal sepsis. --64.121.126.15 (talk) 21:10, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Epidemiology 

message: Dear Editors,
In the "The Doctor's Plague" section, the line about Alexander Gordon is repeated twice.
* Gordon wrote, "It is a disagreeable declaration for me to mention, that I myself was the means of carrying the infection to a great number of women."[21]
* In 1795, Alexander Gordon of Aberdeen, Scotland suggested that the fevers were infectious processes, that physicians were the carrier, and that "I myself was the means of carrying the infection to a great number of women.”[23]
In addition, the line about Meigs is repeated twice. It seems as though two people wrote this article independently.
* Statements like that of Charles Meigs, a leading obstetrician and teacher from Philadelphia, were the attitude of the time: "Doctors are gentlemen, and gentlemen's hands are clean."[17] in section "The Doctor's Plague".
* Holmes' conclusions were ridiculed by many contemporaries, including Charles Delucena Meigs, a well-known obstetrician, who stated, "Doctors are gentlemen, and gentlemen's hands are clean."[27] in section "Prevention via hygienic measures".
Future edits should rectify this.Hwfr (talk) 17:57, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repetition 

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message: Not seeing consensus for the renaming. Thus moved back as I am not a big fan of butting extra brackets in names. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 11:23, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
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