Talk:Chester, Pennsylvania

message: The exact date for the racetrack is September 10th, 2006. I know for a fact that the Casino will have a 5-star resturant. I also know a few other things (a hotel might be in the works), but I'm not going into detail. I'll make more edits later possibly. --Noxilerm 16:52, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Race track

message: I recommend that the opening paragraph include a bit more description and fundamentals about Chester. The global position can even be added. The famous people belong further down in the article, not in the opening paragraph. --Pat 04:21, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea; fire away. PRRfan 05:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening paragraph 

message: +39.86460N, -75.36472W 
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Musicwriter (talk) 04:08, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GPS Coordinates 

message: "Horace Walker Chester High and N.B.A star" appears to be factual (google), but was not added in a proper section.  However, one problem in adding notable persons is avoiding undue emphasis for people in the popular media.  Chester's list has several entries listed which are essentially notable for just a brief period of time.  Tedickey (talk) 11:55, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: How is that any different than anywhere else?  Very few people remain notable for a long period of time. 24rhhtr7 (talk) 17:21, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia:Notability#Notability_is_not_temporary (previous comment pointed out that the guideline was ignored) TEDickey (talk) 16:36, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Again I will ask how that is different from anywhere else.  How many pages list reality stars and other "flavor of the week" types yet I see no objection to that? 24rhhtr7 (talk) 17:22, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a standard for what people you include in a "Notable people section".  The standard is, "Do they qualify for a Wikipedia biography under any of the policies at WP:BIO?".  Horace Walker would qualify if he actually played in the NBA. John from Idegon (talk) 16:10, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  According to who?  How are people who are famous for absolutely no reason somehow more "notable" than people who actually did something of note and made their mark in college basketball or some other thing? 24rhhtr7 (talk) 11:18, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable residents

message: The new stadium is now visible from the perspective in this picture. I think an update or adding a picture of the stadium would be a good idea--69.248.225.198 (talk) 17:30, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  newer picture needed of bridge 

message: I ride past Chester regularly on the train, and it's a sad sight.  The picture of the bridge seems only tangentially relevant...it doesn't even show the city itself, so I moved it down to the transportation section.  I think it is more appropriate to include pictures that capture the essence of this city.  I uploaded a picture I took and set it as the main pic--it's taken from the downtown and is typical of the scenery in the downtown.  I think it more accurately depicts Chester and its economic ruin: pretty, old buildings, all boarded up.
There's another point here, besides bias and accuracy of an encyclopedic article, that I raised on my blog recently: .  There's a complacency in not displaying unsightly aspects of Chester, or of any area for that matter.  Real people live here and are in this downtown area every day.  They deserve for people to see the reality of what their city looks like.  Maybe if more people saw, someone might be moved to do something about it.  I think it's important to photograph both prosperous and poor areas of a city; many articles seem to violate WP:UNDUE because they display only attractive photos of "nice" areas, and this does not reflect what most people see on a daily basis.  Cazort (talk) 15:37, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Aside from the obvious, which you've dismissed, there's the fact that sections of cities near rail lines tend to be less impressive.  Tedickey (talk) 16:36, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've driven around Chester as well...try exploring it on google street view to verify.  There are some nice residential streets but the commercial center of the town is almost completely boarded up, and there are numerous areas of it that are mostly vacant lots as well, and also lots of boarded-up buildings on residential streets.  It's not clear to me what you mean by "the obvious".  Cazort (talk) 16:58, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

text: There are several points to criticize (WP:SOAP for instance).  Tedickey (talk) 09:23, 6 July 2010 (UTC)

text:  I used the Avenue of the States image for the main image and moved the "Boarded up buildings" image to the Economy section, where it is more appropriate. I must concur with Tedickey that using the latter image to represent the city smacks of POV-pushing - but I certainly think that image has a place in the article. Gatoclass (talk) 15:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, I agree it's more appropriate in the Economy section and I agree the way you've rearranged the images is better for NPOV.  Cazort (talk) 17:43, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Photos 

message: I cited the Crime section which was recently added in. The Minaret Temple shooting made notable headlines; however I believe the State of Emergency declared in 2010 due to the rash of homicides should also be mentioned. I'll probably get to it one day, just have to get the sources all together and whatnot. Also, IIRC, Chester has the highest crime rate per capita in PA, if not the US. --Noxilerm (talk) 20:51, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crime 

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message: A recent edit restored an edit which was part of a dubious (contrary to sources) changes, saying "Ethel Water correct format, honors please don't change".  However the cite for New York Drama Critics award appears to be factual; some justification for the change might be useful TEDickey (talk) 08:24, 17 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethel Water correct format, honors please don't change 

message: This section needs some trimming.  I don't believe there is a rule that says everybody who has a Wikipedia article and who ever lived in the city needs to be included in the section.  In fact, Wikipedia:Famous Residents, an essay, says that the significance of the person should be related to the city.  In any case I've deleted the 2 porn stars, who seem to have no significant ties to the city, and I'll likely delete others who are equally unknown outside of narrow areas and don't have obvious ties to the city.  Smallbones(smalltalk) 05:17, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This is what I really dislike about Wikipedia.  Who are you to determine how notable or worthy of mention a person, place, or thing is?  I can understand if you're from the city but if you aren't then how is it your place? 24rhhtr7 (talk) 17:24, 9 February 2014 (UTC)

text: @:  As you said, the essay you quoted is just that, an essay.  It is not policy or a guideline.  The applicable guideline, Wikipedia:WikiProject Cities/US Guideline, makes no statement as to what level of fame a person should have in order to be in a notable list (other than notability obviously). WP:NLIST says very simply, they must be notable per WP:BIO.  Porn stars make that criteria.  It is a slippery slope we climb when we start making decisions about whether something is "enough" within a guideline.  These people's bio's say they are from Chester.  You are not disputing that.  There is no reason they shouldn't be in the list.  They are obviously not important in your world, and they are not in mine either.  But the objective criterium we are working under do not give an out.  Failing some factual reason why they shouldn't be here, they should be. There isn't a policy argument that I am aware of for removing them. John from Idegon (talk) 05:49, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Additionaly, the procedure for dealing with sections that have become too large is not to delete some of the contents but to fork it off into another article, in this case List of notable people from Chester, Pennsylvania. I applied some formatting to the list.  Hopefully that makes seem a little less unwieldy. John from Idegon (talk) 05:55, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable residents 

message: In 1682 still referred to as a settlement. When was it incorporated as a town and when as a city?
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thread_title:  Dates of township and city are missing 

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