Talk:Oscar López Rivera

message: The statement by Richard Pascarella is relevant since it aptly refers to the clemency offered to López Rivera was an acknowledged leader of the FALN. Pascarella was a victim of FALN violence. It can be argued that the fact that he is "Peurto Rican" (sic) is not relevant to his opinions. I would be agreeable to removing that phrase, but if the opinions of Tito Kayak are considered worthwhile, then I think that Pascarella, a law officer harmed by FALN, should have equal or more weight. The prior article made it sound that there was only a movement for clemency, and made little mention of the crimes attributed to his organization. I think to remove the opinions of Pascarella, diminishes the the strong sentiments that opposed clemency.Rococo1700 (talk) 20:12, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a valid point to say that leaving Tito Kayak's opinion may have slanted the article's presentation. I've removed both Kayak's and Pascarella's views as WP:UNDUE – BLP articles must be extra cautious in reproducing opinions about living people – in particular, even though these were reported by independent sources, the opinions in question are not those of any recognized legal experts. Being a victim of a FALN attack might make someone a good guest on the Oprah Winfrey Show, but it doesn't automatically make someone a subject-matter expert for encyclopedic purposes. And in any case, detailed responses to the organization belong at , not Rivera's bio, per WP:COATRACK, WP:WEIGHT, WP:BLPSTYLE, etc. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 01:21, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do not engage in edit wars. The text as it stood attempted to balance the strong opinions on both sides. I have removed the quote from Pascarella, but not the fact that he was part of the effort to stymie the release. You fail to convince me that your effort was sincere, since you only removed one mention of Tony Kayak, but not the others, and not the mentions of Spanish students or TV personalities. Clearly Pascarella has as valid, and as influential an opinion, as all those others. None of the latter has been maimed by the organization of which OLR was a leader. If you continue to change the original article, then we should request an administrative review. You are injecting your biases into argument, selectively editing out the opinions. Such bias has no place in Wikipedia.Rococo1700 (talk) 05:20, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I won't respond to such personal attacks, but I have tagged the article with . At minimum, the back-and-forth between supporters and opponents of López Rivera should be removed. See the relevant policy at WP:BALANCE, WP:STRUCTURE, and WP:WEIGHT. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 13:24, 27 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Richard Pascarella

message: Should the phrase "killing five" be included or excluded from the following part of the lead sentence?  —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 21:54, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for comment: lead sentence

message: Sangdeboef please refrain from deleting sourced material. You deleted  a line from the trial section, that was well-sourced, claiming you were "
Removing close paraphrase of source per WP:COPYVIO)". In effect your were cloaking you biased point of view with that claim.
The sentence originally stated: " López Rivera admitted committing every act with which he was charged, but declared himself a political prisoner and refused to take part in most of the trial proceedings.".
You changed it to 
"López Rivera maintained that he was a prisoner of war[6] and refused to participate in most of the trial.[24]"
You claimed that the copyright violation was due to the similarity to the original sentence "Lopez-Rivera, arrested in late May near the Glenview Naval Air Station, admitted committing every act for which he was charged, but declared himself a political prisoner and refused to take part in most of his trial." Ultimately, the sentence in Wikipedia paraphrases the original paragraph, adhering closely to what was said. You elected to delete what you did not like. That is a violation of bias in Wikipedia. I am reverting this to the original sentence, with a minor modification that invalidates any claim, if there ever was, of copyright violation. The end result of your editing by omitting the fact that he "admitted every act" is a dreadful expression of bias. Please refrain from making these edits without bringing them to discussion.Rococo1700 (talk) 03:03, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:COPYVIO states, . The source is a single, brief news article. The text is out of proportion to coverage in better, non-breaking-news sources. I've condensed it accordingly. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 04:06, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

text: Published sources state that he was not linked to specific bombings: "[López Rivera] and the others were never tied to specific bombings, which caused few injuries." "No evidence was ever found tying López Rivera to any of the bombings". "[T]here was no direct link of López Rivera to any of the FALN killings". We go by published, reliable sources, not Wiki editors' personal interpretations. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 04:16, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Published sources and conviction states that he was part of a conspiracy that included being a member of an organization that set off bombs. Your sources are biased. Please lood that the Robert Belli article. Again to say that there was no direct link of OLR to any one of the FALN killings, does not mean that no evidence was ever found tying OLR to the bombings. He was an active part of a conspiracy to make bombs. He was linked to an apartment full of bombs and bomb-making material. This is evidence that he was linked to bombs. Also any article that states that OLR is a political prisoner is biased. The Diaz article is titled using that premise. SO published, reliable sources not biased opinions and your personal bias. Rococo1700 (talk) 02:17, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please learn the difference between "bomb-making" and "bombing". The first involves constructing a bomb. The second involves blowing one up. They are not the same. If you actually read Identifying reliable sources you would also see that it is not for any of us to decide what the "evidence" means in any criminal case. If you have a problem with any sources then take it to WP:RS/N. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 03:41, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

text:   Calling López Rivera a "terrorist" is also a biased POV, but you seem to have no problem citing the UPI article that calls him one. Once again, just because sources disagree with your personal view does not make them unreliable. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 11:31, 5 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Trial section

message: 2010
*In 2010, the Resident Commissioner Pedro Pierluisi, officially requested López Rivera's release.Figuras públicas continúan encarcelándose por Oscar López Rivera: Abogan por la liberación del preso político durante manifestación de 24 horas. El Nuevo Dia. May 29, 2013.
2011
*Joseph F. Connor, whose father died in the  1975 bombing at Fraunces Tavern, testified at a parole hearing for López Rivera. He opposed parole because he holds López Rivera partly responsible for his father's death. Lopez' attorney said "It was very impactful, moving testimony from people who had terrible losses, but it had nothing to do with Mr. Lopez."
2012
*On June 7, Puerto Rican activist Tito Kayak started a two-leg lone high seas voyage from Ciudad Bolivar, Venezuela, to San Juan, Puerto Rico, and then from San Juan, Puerto Rico, to Washington, D.C., to protest the U.S. incarceration of Oscar López Rivera. Kayak described him as a political prisoner.Tito Kayak vuelve a enfrentar problemas en el mar. Noticel. July 2, 2012.Travesia a remo por la libertad y la paz: Desde Ciudad Bolívar hasta Puerto Rico en solaridad con el preso politico más antiguo: Oscar López Rivera. CCS. (via Cyber News) Bolívar, Venezuela. Issue 1002. May 17, 2012. Originally by Brenda Peña López of El Nuevo Dia, Guaynabo, Puerto Rico.
2013
*In 2013, several high-profile manifestations took place in Puerto Rico on behalf of Oscar López Rivera. These were attended by the highest levels of Puerto Rican government, politicians from all political parties, prominent Puerto Rican artists, singers, actors, Major League baseball players, and hundreds of other people.Puerto Ricans Urge Release of Nationalist Prisoner. Danica Coto. Associated Press. San Juan, Puerto Rico, May 30, 2013.René Pérez se encierra por Oscar López: Se unió a los reclamos por la liberación del prisionero político puertorriqueño que lleva 32 años encarcelado en los Estados Unidos. Gerardo Cordero. Primera Hora. May 29, 2013.Gobernador se une petición de excarcelación de Oscar López Rivera. Primera Hora. May 29, 2013.Claman por la liberación de Oscar López Rivera. Primera Hora. May 29, 2013.
*Several U.S. congressmen, as well as the Governor of Puerto Rico, also supported his release, asking the President of the United States for it.Brooklyn Group Rallies for Release of Puerto Rican Political Prisoner. Jeanine Ramírez. NY1 Warner Cable News. February 25, 2014.Letter from Resident Commissioner Pedro L. Pierluisi to President Barack Obama.  Pedro L. Perluisi. U.S. House of Representatives. February 21, 2013. Page 3.
*On May 29, 2013, on the 32nd anniversary of López Rivera's continuous incarceration, high-ranking officials, former prison personnel, singers, actors, Major League baseball players, and hundreds of other volunteers participated in mock-up prison cell events throughout Puerto Rico calling for the release of López Rivera from the American prison system. In addition, several U.S. Congressmen supported his release, with a few contacting President Obama asking for his release.
*Numerous volunteers participated in a 24-hour demonstration where they remained confined to 6 ft x 9 ft mock-up prison cells intended to represent López Rivera's current cell size in Terre Haute, Indiana. The demonstrations took place on May 29, 2013, at the central squares of Puerto Rico's four largest cities, San Juan, Ponce, Mayagüez, and Arecibo.Crean cárcel para libertad de Oscar López. Reinaldo Millán. La Perla del Sur. Ponce, Puerto Rico. Year 31. Issue 1537. Page 12. May 15, 2013.Oscar López Rivera une a Pedro Julio Serrano y César Vázquez. El Nuevo Dia. May 29, 2013. Guaynabo, Puerto Rico. May 29, 2013. The volunteers included politicians María de Lourdes Santiago, a Puerto Rican senator,Tito Auger ameniza manifestación a favor de Oscar López en Caguas. Primera Hora. May 29, 2013. musician Tito Auger, and actors Ángela Meyer. Others entering the mock-up cells were pro-Statehood party Ponce mayor María Meléndez, writer Mayra Montero, San Juan pro-Commonwealth party mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz, former Puerto Rico governor Aníbal Acevedo Vilá, and former Major Leagues baseball player Carlos Delgado. On that same day hundreds of activists, including pop star Ricky Martin, asked for his release from prison. The governor of Puerto Rico, Alejandro García Padilla joined the call for López Rivera's release in a letter to President Barack Obama.Governor Dismisses Serious Crimes Done in the Name of Independence. Puerto Rico Report. July 5, 2013.  His release is also supported by members of Congress Luis Gutiérrez, José E. Serrano, and Nydia Velázquez.
2014
*A group of young students and workers in Spain joined the international demand for the release of Oscar López Rivera. From February 28, 2014 until April 1, 2014, the Comite 33 días por la excarcelación de Oscar promoted López Rivera's cause amongst Spaniards. In addition, they collected signatures to ask U.S. President Barack H. Obama to grant him a presidential pardon.Boricuas en la Madre Patria inician jornada por la liberación de Oscar. CyberNews. Noticel. March 2, 2014.
*In March 2014, the Mexican pop singer Cristian Castro joined the international demand for López Rivera's release.Cristian Castro se une al pedido de excarcelación de Oscar López | El Vocero de Puerto Rico. Elvocero.com. March 12, 2014.
*In early June 2014, the Speaker of the New York City Council, Melissa Mark-Viverito, officially supported the release of Oscar López Rivera.
*On June 6, 2014 in New York City, radio station WBAI 99.5 FM conducted a half-hour news and interview segment on Oscar López Rivera. The radio segment was conducted by Howard Jordan, the host of the show.
*On June 7, 2014, Miguel Cotto and José Pedraza called for the release of Oscar López Rivera, lending their prestige as champion fighters hailing from Puerto Rico. Miguel Cotto is the middleweight champion of the world and the first Puerto Rican to be the world boxing champion in four different weight classes. The two fighters appeared with "Free Oscar López Rivera" shirts in the ring at Madison Square Garden, and Pedraza previously wore the shirt in a fight in Puerto Rico.
*On June 8, 2014, the National Puerto Rican Day Parade paid tribute to Oscar López Rivera. On that day, a contingent in support of his release marched in the Puerto Rican Day Parade in New York City. A week earlier, the June March 1 in The Bronx was also dedicated to Oscar López Rivera.
2015
*On January 4, 2015, in response to US requests to free the Venezuelan leader Leopoldo López, the president Nicolas Maduro had offered Washington to exchange him "man to man" by López Rivera. The White House rejected the proposal of the Venezuelan government the following day., Presidente Maduro propone intercambio
2016
*On May 16, 2016, Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders tweeted, "Oscar Lopez Rivera has served 34 years in prison for his commitment to Puerto Rico's independence. I say to President Obama: let him out."
2017
*On January 6, 2017, playwright Lin-Manuel Miranda tweeted, "Feliz Cumpleaños y bendiciones, Oscar López Rivera. Please bring him home, @POTUS, while you still have time."
I've removed this info from the article for now – biographies shouldn't be a laundry list of people who've ever said anything about the subject. Feel free to restore any material that can be worked into a neutrally written prose summary. —Sangdeboeuf (talk) 21:44, 30 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline