Talk:Villains in Sonic the Hedgehog

message: It was never made apparent at any time what Sonic did to Erazor Djinn's lamp. <BoomTheHedgehog>  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.19.145.37 (talk) 23:25, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Concerning Erazor

message: Fang is the only character in this list who has appeared in multiple games and the only one who was playable (twice). During his last appearance (Sonic Championship) he was in a relunctant hero role. Should he really be in this list of boss-only characters or should he be moved over to the 'other characters' list with the other playable characters?
Also, why is G-Mel, a character who only appeared as a boss over there instead of here?
I think he deserves his own article. He's got a lot of out-of-game information (from Archie) and he's been in multiple games, both playable and enemy. And he's on Sonic Channel. Harley Quinn hyenaholic 00:25, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: More than one game rule? pt.2

message: Given the recent edits involving Mephiles and Black Doom, I'm assuming that the only way a character qualifies for their own article is if they've appeared in more than one video game or other form of Sonic media? Because if all it takes is more than one appearance in any of the media, then the Black Arms still qualify for their own article. User:Denjo
:I would assume another major role (i.e. StH2 or something, not just a few enemy types reappearing), or a vastly different role in another series(not just the regular changing the comic does). There's no point in pointing out changes between series if the characters are the same, but slightly adapted. Nemu 04:57, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose you're right...again. User:Denjo
A comment from a wikipedia fan. Chaos only appears one game (its in Sonic Adventure 2 Battle doesn't count because it's only in vs. mode, neither does Soinc battle have much of, if any, effect on the storyline), and it has its own article, most of it is just about Chaos's different forms. So why can't Black Doom and Mephilis have their's. Iblis (which no matter happens is probably going to stay in the same article as Mephilis) has multiple forms just like Chaos does. Black Doom actually has more of role in the plot then Chaos does (Shadow wouldn't exist if it wasn't for him), so that should add to him getting his own article. His other form Devil Doom could also provide for info for the article to take up. So really, the only reason it seems why Chaos has it's own article is either because of its popularity or because its other media appearances.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.67.168 (talk) 23:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: More than one game rule?

message: Guys, if I may make one humble suggestion? Given that there is just as much information regarding the Black Arms as there is regarding GUN, why not put all the Black Arms info-including Black Doom-into a separate article? I hardly think that GUN qualifies for its own article if the Black Arms don't. User:Denjo
:I would suggest that GUN be moved into the minor characters for that same reasoning.GrandMasterGalvatron 19:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Black Arms

message: Okay guys, I understand that you want to make things run more smoothly and condense articles; that's great. But Black Doom and Mephiles the Dark have enough data for their own articles. Mephiles has information on three different villains; he doesn't need to be shoved in here. As for Black Doom, if you have to stick him into an article with other characters, do Black Arms-he belongs in there if anywhere. User:Denjo
I agree completely, Mephiles seems to have enough data to stand on his own, like others have said the fact that he managed to kill Sonic is noteworthy. As for Black Doom if his article is to be merged with another article, the other article should be for the Black Arms, although I think he also supports enough data to be his own article and also he plays an important role in Shadow's life. Unknown Dragon 23:25, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mephiles and Black Doom

message: I've never heard of this. Is it an actual cancelled character, or just rumors? RememberMe? 06:28, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metal Amy? 

message: Who thinks that the Erazor Djinn looks like Majin Buu? I don't think they really have anything in common besides being purple/pink.JohnWardlow 16:41, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Erazor and Majin Buu 

message: I think that was pointless to fuse them with this. The Black Arms in particular are up for an appearence in the Archie's. So they, and Doom should go back to their own articles. Mephiles, Iblis, and Solaris would be better off all in the same article. And Erazor should have his own too. If you have to cut them down for here, than why bother moving them? Even cut down they're too long for a 'minor characters' area.Three-Tail 01:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black Arms, Black Doom, Mephiles, Iblis and Solaris 

message: He shoots the missles out of his arms, not mouth. We should change this.
I have the game I know.
I have it too.  Look closely and you can see he opens his mouth really wide.GrandMasterGalvatron 00:08, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To add, here are the sprites from the firing animation . Gurko 05:28, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mecha Knuckles 

message: Anyone have a pic of this guy? Oh, and while we're on the subject of this, has anyone found a pic of Devil Doom? ChromeWulf ZX 23:51, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alf Layla-wa Layla  

message: Being a regular on the internet, I've seen a few people (and know them in real life) who actually acknowledge the existance of the Tails Doll internet meme. I only know a few sources for this, but it should be suitable evidence that such a meme exists. As such, it should be mentioned in the biography, even if its only a small sentence. Primekiller 11:01, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tails doll suggestion 

message: First off the fact that this article even exists is ridiculous. A whole bunch of good articles were taken and chopped down and put in here. A whole bunch of information has just been thrown off. For example the Black Arms it says "Other variations exist". Yes, but they should be named.
Second there is hardly a single picture here. Fang is it. I personally think this article should be removed. It's completely pointless. The Black Arms and Black Doom can be fused as a single article, as can Iblis, Solaris and Mephiles. Captain Whisker and Void are Minor Villains and should go back there. And the Egg Golem isn't a villain. It's a robot of Eggman's.
Look at it, seriously. Loads of information has been cut and full fledged articles had to be cut down to be put in here. If you have to do that, don't bother. Then other things just simply shouldn't be here. It looks to me like someone just wanted to demote a bunch of Sonic villains or something.
I propose this article be deleted and the Black Arms and Iblis, Solaris and Mephiles be restored to proper articles.
Now if absolutely nobody wants to do that, then at least clean the page up. Three-Tail 02:56, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Removal or Clean-Up 

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BetacommandBot 04:45, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Fang the Sniper gunslinger.jpg

message: Every time any info on any of the significant villains shows up in this article, it gets deleted. This is particularly annoying to me since I was the one who put the extra info in one Mephlis and Black Doom. Really, I makes no sense to me. Is there a limit as to who much info the "minor" (Black Doom and Mephiles are better villains any of the enemies with there articles) can have on them? Also, why do some of the images get deleted? FiercedeitylinkX  —Preceding unsigned comment added by FiercedeitylinkX (talk • contribs) 01:49, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why info gets removed 

message: We need to add them and Shade to the artice.SLJCOAAATR 1 (talk) 19:49, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: is shade a villain? is shade notable?   Doktor  Wilhelm  17:58, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Dark Brotherhood

message: TTN has re-opened a disussion for the merger of Other villains in Sonic the Hedgehog (games) and Other characters in Sonic the Hedgehog (games)‎ in to the List of characters from Sonic the Hedgehog (games) article (The discussion is at WikiProject Video games).   Doktor  Wilhelm  17:57, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger Discussion

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:07, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Fang the Sniper gunslinger.jpg

message: As you already know TTN has reopened the discussion about merging most of the articles and here is the location.Fairfieldfencer (talk) 11:45, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge location 

message: Why is it King Boom Boo, and Egg Golem have pics.? They had extremely minor roles. Villians like Mephiles, Iblis, Solaris, and Black Doom are more deserving than those two. Also, i think Solaris needs it's own article. He's certainly desrving of one since we know so much about him. Mephiles, and Iblis would be sub-sections. A Black Arms article is also in need with Black Doom, and Dooms Eye as subsections. Does anyone agree?Skeletal_SLJCOAAATR_Soul_Striker_of_Vengence (talk) 19:23, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea, Wikipedia frowns on having too many fair-use pics in an article, so we should save the pics for the important characters. Cigraphix (talk) 21:52, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: What's this?