Talk:Middleweight

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message: According to the International Boxing Hall of Fame, WBA Regular championship is not a major world title, nor is it recognized as such by any unbiased respectable source. Alisher.seitkassym what you've mentioned about IBHOF is a very small nitpick, especially compared to all the criticisms and doubts of trustworthiness directed towards WBA and its president. Виктор Не Вацко (talk) 11:10, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: And what is "all the criticism and doubts"? Opinions! You're operating with opinions and I'm operating with facts. WBA considers all his 20 defences legit. Not the mass media, but the governing body itself. The oldest governing body in boxing history. And i provided the link to it at the WBA official website in our dialogue.  Doesn't matter what you or me or anybody else think of the WBA. And what does IBHOF have to do with it right now? No offence but do you even know how it works at all? A boxer may ballot to it 5 years after retirement. All the International Boxing Hall of Fame talk will be relevant when/if Golovkin is inducted into it years after he retires. I'm not nitpicking, as you say, I'm showing you that in case with Bernard Hopkins they've considered his third fight with Robert Allen (a No Contest) a title defence. All I'm saying is IBHOF will make its decision when the time comes. Again that means years after Golovkin retires. Until then the only platform is the World Boxing Association, speaking objectively, whether we like it or not. The rest of all talk is opinions and points of view (including media) Alisher.seitkassym (talk) 14:50, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: If not IBHOF, who exactly is, according to you, to decide whether WBA is a legitimate major governing body to begin with? Does that mean that we should also include IBO into conversation? IBHOF is the closest the boxing public will get to the universally recognized respected source of information. It's because of IBHOF that the boxing public recognizes WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO as major professional boxing governing bodies. That's why it's relevant. Виктор Не Вацко (talk) 15:53, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Alisher.seitkassym (talk) 16:37, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't understand why you keep bringing the IBHOF acceptance procedure that has nothing to do with the discussion about the recognition of boxing world titles. Second, this not Twitter nor Youtube to leave messages like this. I keep changing the page because the WBA Regular title is not viewed by the unbiased part of the boxing public as the major world title. Given that neither WBA, WBC, IBF nor WBO are affiliated with any major sports organisation (like International Olympic Committee) and that there is no organisation in boxing that has the power position (like FIFA) or public's trust, IBHOF is the best of what we have now. Виктор Не Вацко (talk) 12:16, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  The W in WBA stands for World Title. it doesnt matter rather it is Super or not all the matters is the World part. on top of that who said minor title defenses cant be included?--Fruitloop11 (talk) 07:21, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Legitimacy of WBA Regular championship