Talk:Alexander Berzin (scholar)

message: I double-checked, and we didn't lose any references in the copyright cleanup. They're all listed above at Talk:Alexander_Berzin_(scholar)#References. Note that I found a link to the full LATimes article: http://articles.latimes.com/1991-01-01/news/mn-7464_1_dalai-lama --Ronz (talk) 19:01, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: All refs are retained on this talk page

message: . There were two, but no External links section. I've added it with a link to Berzin's profile there. --Ronz (talk) 16:26, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks, that's helpful. Aleph1 (talk) 22:05, 24 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. It really must be Christmas. MacPraughan (talk) 17:53, 25 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: External links to studybuddhism

message: There are two more overarching questions here that are even more important than the details above. They involve how much censorship we tolerate on WP and what sort.
Ronz or an anonymous colleague somehow redacted the bulk of the page history of this article. Some years ago an administrator told me such a thing was not possible on WP for even one page, that there was not even a mechanism for it. Ronz, it must have occurred to you that this would be an issue.
The questions are:
a) How was it achieved? and
b) Why?
Moonsell (talk) 00:10, 20 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe this has all been discussed. This article started as a copyright violation. We need independent sources rather than his own self-published profile. --Ronz (talk) 14:08, 20 May 2017 (UTC)

text: , try looking for secondary, independent sources about Berzin on Google News, Google Scholar or Google Books. Then start from there. --Farang Rak Tham (talk) 13:51, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions 

message: I have been researching Dr Berzin’ bibliography and came up with the following items. Does anyone have any objection to adding them?
"Buddhist-Muslim Doctrinal Relations: Past, Presenting Future” in Buddhist Attitudes to Other Religions (Perry Schmidt-Leukel, ed.). St. Ottilien, Germany, EOS Editions of St. Ottlilien, 2008, 212-236. ISBN 9783830673514.
“Historical Survey of the Buddhist and Muslim Worlds’ Knowledge of Each Other’ Customs and Teachings” in The Muslim World: A Special Issue on Islam and Buddhism (Hartford, Connecticut) , vol. 100, Nrs. 2 and 3, April/July 2010, 187-203. ISSN 00274909.
“The Sources of Happiness According to Buddhism” in Glück (Andre Holenstein, Ruth Meyer Schweizer, Pasqualina Perrig-Chiello, Peter Rusterholz, Christian von Zimmermann, Andreas Wagner, Sara Margarita Zwahlen, eds.). Bern, Stuttgart, Wien, Haupt Verlag, 2011, 41-52. ISBN 9783258076898.
(Editor) Geshe Ngawang Dhargyey. An Anthology of Well-Spoken Advice. Dharmsala, India, Library of Tibetan Works & Archives, 1984, reprint 2001. ISBN-10:8186470298, ISBN-13:9788186470299.
MacPraughan (talk) 22:16, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not extremely familiar with the general consensus on what to include in bibliographies. Major works should definitely be included. Beyond that it gets rather subjective, and bibliographies are routinely trimmed so the article doesn't look like a resume or similar. --Ronz (talk) 23:07, 18 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  The last two look like primary sources to me, but the first two should be fine. If you want more feedback, you need to provide us urls.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 13:23, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  After having looked up the book Glück on Google Books, I think it is okay to use. It looks secondary to me.--Farang Rak Tham (talk) 13:30, 19 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Farang Rak Tham, with your kind approval I have now added "Glück" to the list. Do you consider the other titles I gave to be primary? It's hard for me to tell the difference... MacPraughan (talk) 13:50, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure why you're trying to apply "primary" vs "secondary" to bibliographies. These aren't sources, rather just published works. --Ronz (talk) 15:57, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed new items for bibliography