Talk:Lehi (Book of Mormon prophet)

message: Ephrathite? I disagree... In Alma 31:10
3  And Aminadi was a descendant of Nephi, who was the son of Lehi, who came out of the land of Jerusalem, who was a descendant of Manasseh, who was the son of Joseph who was sold into Egypt by the hands of his brethren.
I think we need a little more info for this to be useful... there are several promises that those of the tribe of Ephraim are eligible for.  Maybe this statement is here because they qualify for some of these blessings?
--?? Who is this - unsigned?
:I removed this until it can be explained and sourced: Lehi's sons are said to be characteristically Ephrathite, though it is uncertain what this means or why this would be. Bochica 05:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ephrathite? Lehi is through Manasseh 

message: "...and the fact that Mormonism is not grounded in fact." - I just wonder if this is an inflammatory...?
--Darkpoet 16:13, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like it was probably vandalism. Bochica 05:22, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: As I read this article I realize the lack of historic, geological, and archeological references
outside the BOM and/or internal writings. The article makes stipulations and assumptions about its own veracity. As Wikipedia user guidelines states the "encyclopedic content must be verifiable" by external material.
Eternalyalive 01:02, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just checked out the article for "lack of historic, geological, and archeological references" in this article.  There are plenty of references, some of which don't show which specific information they support.  I have requested such association.  Now, what specific information do you want referenced? — Val42 18:57, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, all of the items in the Reference ("Other") section are linked from the Harvard citations in the notes section. There are no references shown which are not linked into the article somewhere. Bochica 16:00, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

text: So based upon your standard Moses, Isaiah, Esther, Amos, etc. are all fictional characters because there is no historical evidence to support any of them? I guess we would need to have Buddhist sources to confirm their reality or to be acceptably sourced. It gets pretty funny when we start applying the same standard to every thing doesn't it?
This article simply discusses characters and events in a book.  It does not need to take a position on whether the book is historically true or not, nor does it.  Arguing about the historicity of the Book of Mormon is pointless and irrelevant to the purpose of the article. Ltbugaf (talk) 21:49, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article lacks references 

message: No scholars nor scientists could prove this whole theory. That Lehi was invented and only exists in the book of Mormon. The article should mention the scientific facts. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:45:4950:ab51:c831:c46a:dc5:b6af (talk • contribs) 16 November 2014‎
:The article should summarise what wp:reliable sources have said about the topic of this specific article, including by those engaged in Mormon studies. There is plenty of material about the historical authenticity of the Book of Mormon and criticism of the Book of Mormon on those particular articles, but most of that is off-topic on this article. —Asterisk*Splat→ 20:25, 19 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with AsteriskStarSplat.  This historical authenticity is debated on those pages listed.--- ARTEST4ECHO (talk) 21:30, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

text: That is a nearly text-book example of original research, and so there should be no change to this article based on your statement. —Asterisk*Splat→ 23:43, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sure!--Mmedvin (talk) 05:48, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources? 

message: How can one say that Lehi, who lived in 600BC have sailed to America which were discovered 1000 years later?
you need at least give some explanation to this claim...otherwise it looks unreliable...
If there is any known historical fact to this - you have to add it? --Mmedvin (talk) 17:44, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The ~600 BC claim is made by the LDS Church, as well as other denominations in the Latter Day Saint movement. On this article we are not trying to establish or disprove this claim: we are merely summarizing what reliable sources have said about this claim, including by those that originally made the claim. —Asterisk*Splat→ 23:43, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: If you use a doubtful statement, even if taken from a "reliable source" it is good to have a short discussion about it. If this is not a historical fact that have been proved (it is hard and tricky especially since too many indigenous Americans were killed and their culture and history disappeared) it could be a try to explain it. Many things like this in religious literature can be explained and it is hard to believe that nobody asked the question I've asked before (not only here, but in general).--Mmedvin (talk) 05:33, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lehi sailed to Americas? 

message: WP:VERIFY WP:NOTRELIABLE WP:SELFPUBLISH Need a citation to objective evidence that these metal plates exist. Otherwise its unverifiable self published say so.DLH (talk) 13:46, 5 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metal Plates 

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message: From Bountiful, did they sail east across the Pacific?  or south and west across the Atlantic?--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 16:04, 6 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Atlantic or Pacific? 

message: The paragraph on possible origin of the name states, "However, the Hebrew word and the Book of Mormon character name Lehi are not pronounced similarly."  This is a superfluous comment.  It seems intended to suggest the name Lehi is not of Hebrew origin, but it does not suggest that.  The fact that English-speaking people say "LEE-high" whereas a Hebrew pronunciation would probably be more like "lekhee" is not relevant to whether the name has Hebrew origins.  The English pronunciation of virtually every name in the Bible is also different from Hebrew pronunciations.  Abraham, Moses, Elijah, Elisha, Obadiah, Zephaniah, and Malachi are just a few of the many examples.  Ltbugaf (talk) 21:20, 17 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The whole paragraph shouldn't be here, at least in its current state. One reference is simply to the Bible. Another is to a Bible study site, which is probably not so reliable. More importantly, neither reference says anything even about the possibility that this is the origin of the name, so it's original research. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 07:21, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it. Amir E. Aharoni (talk) 15:06, 6 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hebrew vs English Pronunciation