Talk:2005 Logan Airport runway incursion

message: I have created an infobox for this article, but when I filled in the operators as US Airways and Aer Lingus, the infobox came up as seen on the article now. Can someone with a little more knowledge of the site fix this? - Blood red sandman 20:54, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
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message: This passage describing the actions of the US Airways first officer has been trimmed back considerably: "...he pushed down hard on the aircraft's control column. This caused the position of the horizontal stabilizer to change, so that it was forcing the nose of the aircraft down against the natural lift that occurs when an aircraft exceeds certain speeds. In this way he was able to keep US Airways 1170 from lifting off the runway..." The source cited only states that "he pushed the control column forward." The technical description of how this intervention kept the plane from taking off was not accurate. Lift is the result not only of exceeding certain speeds but also of the angle of attack of the wing relative to the air stream. During takeoff, the wing will not have a sufficient angle of attack to lift the plane at any speed unless and until the nose is lifted, increasing the angle of attack. Pushing the control column forward does cause the horizontal stabilizer to force the nose down, but it does not have to oppose any "natural lift" of the wing in this situation, and it would not be necessary to push "hard" in order to keep the plane on the ground. Piperh 16:50, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not so. You're forgetting about pitch trim. With trim set for takeoff, many planes will fly themselves off the runway upon reaching a certain speed. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 15:02, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why pushing the control column forward keeps an airliner from taking off

message: A few days ago, I added that the US Air crew had no choice but to attempt to take off because they had achieved V1 speed.  Upon further reflection, maybe a better analysis of the situation would be that (1) they had the option of taking off because they had reached V1, and (2) they had no choice but to attempt a takeoff after the near-collision because they were too far down the runway to be able to achieve a stop from V1 speed within the remaining runway distance.  Certainly, by being forced to delay their takeoff on account of the evasive action, they were in danger of running out of runway no matter what they tried to do  next.  Any thoughts?  Richwales 06:42, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you know about aviation, V1 is when an aircraft must depart, even if all the engines failed(VERY unlikely), so the pilot kept it down to let it depart a bit after V1 so that they don't hit the other plane, as it states 'The first officer noticed that both aircraft would be airborne', so they just took off after the intersection, even though it wasn't required. Hope this helps. Ilikepie2221 (talk) 23:23, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Why the US Air flight crew chose to take off

message: surely there must be a better name than this? There has to have been numerous incursions in 2005 at Logan... 70.29.208.129 (talk) 13:36, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: article name

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thread_title: Assessment comment