Talk:The 100 Most Influential Books Ever Written

message: We ought to change the title of this article to something like "100 Most Influential Books Ever Written (book by Seymour-Smith)" and there should be a disambiguation function.  People are getting confused, thinking this is a list to be accumulated by Wikipedia users. Where is that list anyway? Friendly Person (talk) 17:27, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds reasonable. I reacted against why Darwin came 73 with The Origin of Species far after Miguel de Cervantes came 38 with "Don Quixote". Darwin had an immense inpact on biology, geology and religion which cannot be overestimated even today, while Don Quixote sounds like an elaborate political satire that has lost its edge by now. It seems to me that the list is biased in some way probably towards culture (or maybe that I'm biased towards science, economics and technology). The list is not general so the article name must connect to the book wherein it resides. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 21:23, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry! I got it wrong! The list is in chronological order! Nevertheless a name change is motivated. ... said: Rursus (bork²) 21:27, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with changing the title to "100 Most Influential Books Ever Written (book by Seymour-Smith)". How influential a book is must be a matter of subjective judgement, without objective yardstick (unless reliable citation statistics are available). Therefore, unlike the List of best-selling books (where supporting statistics can be adduced), there cannot be a user-generated List of most influential books in Wikipedia. Thus, there should be no need of disambiguation.--Palaeoviatalk 22:58, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Can someone add a "(Book)" to the title?
--Arash Eb (talk) 23:22, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. — goethean ॐ 00:39, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title is Confusing 

message: The latest revision, from 31.01.08, adds that Seymour-Smith was Jewish. I have never heard this, and it is not stated on his own Wiki page. I'm reluctant to delete this until anyone can confirm one way or another.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Coolazice (talk • contribs) 05:48, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I wasn't reluctant to delete it.  Citizen Premier (talk) 10:02, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jewish? 

message: How is it that Aristotle's works are listed before Plato's?  I know it says "4th Century," but every last one of them was written after Plato's "Republic."  (Aristotle 384-322 BCE, Plato's Republic 380 BCE).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.210.210.125 (talk) 01:37, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Plato now precedes Aristotle.--Palaeoviatalk 04:04, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Aristotle

message: I'm going to be adding the author's sequence number 1-100 (from his table of contents, here) as the first cell in each table entry.  This will make it easier to spot vandalism and to double-check the list against his.  --CliffC (talk) 00:18, 7 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  I retained the chronological sequence given in the work we're summarizing.  If it's important, someone might want to add a footnote or mention of the Plato-Aristotle date issue raised above.  --CliffC (talk) 03:34, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Adding sequence numbers to table

message: Widely considered more influential the 1984  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.137.78.23 (talk) 22:19, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Same as for "Atlas Shrugged"! This list is from the book "The 100 Most Influential Books Ever Written: The History of Thought from Ancient Times to Today" written by Martin Seymour-Smith. We editors don't choose any author or book by ourselves to put here. The article should be renamed as per User:Friendly Persons suggestion (see "Title is Confusing" above). ... said: Rursus (bork²) 21:31, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Same for Mein Kampf. As user "theblooms" said on Digg, "No Mein Kampf by Adolph Hitler? Holy crap, that book led to WWII and the near extermination of a race of people. Pretty damn influential! I assume that influential can be good or bad." Twipley (talk) 17:58, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brave new world  anybody? 

message: scripture: Any writing that is regarded as sacred by a religious group; Scripture: The sacred writings of the Christian religions (wordnet)
to my mind it would either be "Hindu Scripture," or "Hindu scriptures."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Twipley (talk • contribs) 20:45, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Capitalization of S in the word "scripture" has absolutely no effect on the word's meaning. "Scripture" has not become a proper name for the Bible. This is simply a most peculiar non-issue. --Palaeoviatalk 00:24, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hindu scripture (Upanishads) 

message: The list reads a bit like the Index Librorum Prohibitorum, all the different books that were banned by the Roman Catholic Church. While it does cite the scriptures of various religions, very few of the publications of the period 1500-1800 were not controversial with the Church somehow. A possible explanation for this is that, apart from the censorships, many of these books were the product of independent philosophical and intellectual circles that deliberately tried to set themselves apart from the mainstream Christian culture before taking on a broader public role. ADM (talk) 20:26, 20 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Index Librorum Prohibitorum

message: We would benefit from knowing the reaction of literary critics to Seymour-Smith's book. Since he is evidently a Briton, Literary Review is likely to have written one of their high quality reviews at the time of publication. Varlaam (talk) 04:19, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception 

message: anybody who know anything about philosophy will agree that Heidegger's Sein und Zeit (1927) is probably the most influential book wrtten in the 20th century. There is not a single famous philospher who was not influenced by this book, including such names as Sartre, Derrida, Levinas, Gadamer, Foucault, Sloterdijk and many many more...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.212.38.229 (talk) 10:48, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heidegger Sein und Zeit 

message: Strange,Ramayana and Mahabharata has been excluded from list. Prof. Greerson, an expert on Indian languages had stated that Ramayana is more popular in India than Bible in England.Similar is the case with Mahabharat.Rajesh Kumar69 (talk) 15:07, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ramayana and Mahabharat 

message: Strange,Ramayana and Mahabharata has been excluded from list. Prof. Greerson, an expert on Indian languages had stated that Ramayana is more popular in India than Bible in England.Similar is the case with Mahabharat.Rajesh Kumar69 (talk) 15:07, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ramayana and Mahabharat 

message: The article clearly states: 
"The one hundred most influential books, according to Seymour-Smith, in the approximate *chronological order* he gives:"
Can we please put the new testament down a notch or two? It's CE, and not BCE... It should for no reason be on the top of the list.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.57.220.83 (talk) 20:46, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: Per Wikipedia:Copyright in lists#Copyrightability of content I removed the complete list as a copyright violation. Garion96 (talk) 12:21, 2 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyvio 

message: book, "The.Most.Important.Knowledge.You.would.Ever.Read.Implement.and.Live.up.to.Forever"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.149.210.137 (talk) 19:19, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is not a list, it is about a specific book which contains a list. If you feel a book should be added you need to take it up with the author of the book.--☾Loriendrew☽ ☏(talk) 21:44, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about?