Talk:Human migration

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I'm inclined to think that this one is beyond redemption. That old 119th Century view is just too pervasive and too full of errors. Wipe it, delete and start again is probably the wisest thing. Tannin 11:06, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The whole concept is simply completely dated in parts and would merit a in-depth discussion. --Yak 15:00, Apr 6, 2004 (UTC)
I agree with the objections others have cited about this article. But is this article even necessary. There are already separate articles (also in need of major revision, but not nearly as bad) on early human migration and historic human migration. This article might be better as a disambiguation stub linking to the other two articles, as well as to related issues like nomads, immigration, etc. It's frightening just how long ago the complaints about this page have been here without any resolution. Ftjrwrites (talk) 17:14, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

text: The Great Migrations around 500, perhaps, but not all of those up to 650s or 900s... --Joy [shallot] 17:59, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: (2004)Article scope not defined

message: I noticed that some paragraphs were repeated in the article. Is this standard in Wikipedia for articles derived from the  Britannia Encyclopedia of 1911, or was this a mistake? Rickyrab 18:01, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, you introduced them yourself, see the page history. It's possible that two concurrent submits (too many clicks?) caused the server to duplicate them. I'm cleaning it up now... --Joy [shallot] 19:50, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Duplicate paragraphs

message: ...the Polynesians, starting with the Lapita culture, have proven to be the most successful in the art of navigation, as the Norse adventurers in the North Atlantic and the Arab traders in the Indian Ocean did not create permanent settlements.
I hope no one is forgetting Iceland (Norse), Zanzibar (Arab), Dar es Salaam (Arab) and other permanent settlements, not to mention the spread of Islam across the Indian Ocean rim! Who was most successful in navigating is kind of subjective anyway, hence my edit. --147.109.250.24 01:38, 14 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who's best at navigation 

message: is it just british english that has out-migration including migration within one's country of origin (from rural Maine to the NYC, say)?  doesn t american english make the same distinction?  appealing for views on this.  thanx -mayumashu
:In educated British English, as in American English at similar cultural levels,  we have the word "emigration" in which the "e-" is a variant of "ex-" meaning "out". The converse is "immigration". What, one wonders, is the kind of migration that is not "out"-migration. See tautology. --Wetman 21:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Every migration is out of a certain locality. However, this is depending on the context of the locality. When discussing emigration of people from rural into urban areas of one country you are simply focusing on migration. If you are discussing just people leaving rural areas and the reasons for it, you might want to emphasize the emigration. Or in another example, if you want to compare immigration and emigration numbers for a particular place, then the immigration for that place is not emigration for that same place.Viewviewer 20:20, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: does out-migration mean merely emigration?

message: Hi, I agree with other that this page has errors.  One in particular - that human migration necessarily refers to the movement en masse, as opposed to individual migration.  I think this particular definition may be for one area of study/practice, but not for all - Guppy 16:40, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The first line of the article reads "Human migration denotes any movement of groups of people from one locality to another." --Wetman 21:43, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Mass migration?

message: There are quite important migrations missing in the map, specially from the cultural point of view:
:The Spanish migration into Latin America.
:The African migration into North America & Brazil.
Because this is due to the recentness of such events. --Dagofloreswi (talk) 20:49, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some important migrations missing in the map 

message: I recently noticed Single-origin hypothesis and Multiregional hypothesis.  If the latter is taken seriously, it should be mentioned in the section on the earliest migrations. -- Beland 13:41, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: For more then 3 months no one did anything about that. Also, modern genetics tells us that multiregional hypothesis is not so relevant anymore. So, I removed sectPOV. --millosh (talk (sr:)) 01:30, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: see the Chunyun article.--Skyfiler 01:06, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seasonal migration, called Transhumance is certainly noteworthy. A brief account with a Main article: Transhumance heading would be the way. --Wetman 12:21, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is seasonal migration noteworthy? 

message: I re-wrote the early modern section. This page also badly needs a section on 19th and 20th c migrations. It also needs much more on non-European migration.
Jdorney 12:32, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early modern, 19c and 20c 

message: Anybody have any information about the Austronesian expansion? It should be in this article for many reasons:
A) They colonized of the Maritime Southeast Asia, largely displacing the indigenous inhabitants(the Australoid peoples) of that region. They were also settling lands over relatively longer distances before the more notable Europeans did.
B) Their descendants, the Polynesians settled most of the western Pacific Islands.
C) Their range was between Madagascar and Hawaii(if you count the Polynesians), a span that transverse almost half of the planet.
D) The Austronesian language family is a candidate for being the largest, if not one of the largest, language 
family in the history of mankind.
E) They number at least 300 Million, as opposed to the Bantus which number significantly less.
I see an entry for Polynesians but not for Austronesians as a whole. I know research and info about the topic is limited and it's the primary reason I am taking this to the talk pages instead. Any input would be appreciated.--Chicbicyclist 10:14, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Austronesian Expansion 

message: A map for the last few millennia or centuries would be helpful. -- Beland 04:05, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map request 

message: Articles on those subjects are chaotically and confusingly named. Please see a proposal to standardize all names here. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  16:56, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Batch rename for all World War II evacuation and expulsion articles 

message: Is the second picture on the right-hand side supposed to have the description:
"mitochondrial DNA-based chart of large human migrations. (Numbers are millennia before present)"
Seems like someone has had some fun with this article...
Ay Dee (talk) 19:31, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  mitochondrial DNA? 

message: All of it ? That article scope is too broad . Why not types of migration instead of the chronological approach . Under section-title 'Theory', causes of migration are listed, and it seems a bit fledgling, without knowing what migration is . It seems there is no tag at WP:TC that fits . Sechinsic (talk) 17:58, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is new text. I agree with your suggestion - the topic "Human Migration" is extremely broad. Maybe this page should be split into two or more different pages? TasneemIslam1025 (talk) 02:21, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Human migration ? 

message: My colleague and I would like to propose the addition of a section entitled "Migration for Work in the 20th and 21st Century." We propose this in order to include in this page a section that reflects a more modern migration which we believe will provide a contemporary example of migration in order to update this page. FaithSara (talk) 02:28, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed Changes

message: Migrants’ New Paths Reshaping Latin America DAMIEN CAVE published NYT January 5, 2012.  
See Immigration#Economic migrant  
99.190.80.182 (talk) 06:33, 6 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  potential resource 

message: This is an animated video about international migration. It might be interesting for this article: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOZmqIwqur4
85.179.155.104 (talk) 08:58, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video Resource 

message: The section that started with "The diversification of Asian migration flows" (which I made into a sub-heading as it appeared that was the intent of the original contributor of that section) references a table and a chart which are not included here in the article.  Can those be recovered, or should the references be removed?  1bandsaw (talk) 00:30, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing tables 

message: I have been researching Homo Sapien Dispersal Patterns. One problem that continuously arises is the concept that Homo Sapien seems to appear in China before in Israel. Is it possible that Homo Sapien evolved in two separate places: Africa and Eastern Asia? Maybe it is possible that Homo Sapien evolved in 2 places rather than once? Just a little Theory.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Talwerts (talk • contribs) 04:03, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: That idea is called the multiregional theory, and it is not considered plausible or supported by current evidence.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 04:13, 1 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  , thanks for this response!  is a student at UIUC and is working on an assignment. Thanks for engaging. Vaparedes (talk) 21:09, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did Homo Sapiens Evolve in Two Places? 

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message: The scope of International migration and Human migration overlaps, and so it seems reasonable to merge them. This was proposed in 2014, and completed with a redirect in 2015. This was reversed by User:Andy Dingley this month, but the intention seems to be that a merge is still worthwhile. Therefore, I'm reproposing, tagging both pages. Klbrain (talk) 15:49, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: "Human migration" should be the main topic, not just 21st-century statistics. The material in this article should be split, among International migration (immigration, emigration) vs. Internal migration, and  history of human migration#Contemporary_history. --dab (𒁳) 10:52, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Closing, given no support for either the split of the merge and discussion stale. Klbrain (talk) 17:40, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Population mouvement in Cameroon duering the 19 century
Population mouvement or migration refers to the mouvement or displacement  of people from one are to another due voluntary or involuntary mouvement.the main direction was from the North to South . The causes of the mouvement is explain in term of political,économic and social reason.
A) political reson
- payement of trebuties
- inter tribal war of Modibo Adama
- succession desputed
B) economic reason
- search for fertile soil
- search for grazing Land
C) social reason
- the role of water bodies 
- the role of hills and escapment
- social ties or religous conflit  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A03:2880:FF:14:0:0:FACE:B00C (talk) 21:47, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Maybe this text block is useful here? It was recently added at developing country by a novice editor but didn't fit there. Also it seems a bit essay-like, pushing a point of view but perhaps some of it can be used for this article?:
=== Stagnation of the Population ===
Only one in thirty global citizens have ever migrated, while only about 2 percent of the 281 million immigrants across borders are from developing countries. The benefit of migration for developing countries is exponential. As a result of internal migration from unproductive rural areas to urban areas, there is a reallocation of labor that aids productivity, output, and economic development.> As economic growth occurs, income and standard of living also grows. If residents are able to immigrate across countries, the citizens themselves can match their skills more effectively to a respective economy, bettering their own livelihood. Immigrants are able to raise their per capita income by over 30 percent.
Unfortunately, there are many factors that are specific to developing countries that prevent migration. Misinformation and lack of accessibility in rural conditions leave citizens misled and unaware of the opportunities that they have. Additionally, there are liquidity constraints because of the high levels of poverty that make migrating impossible due to the high costs of moving. As well, there are explicit policy barriers that directly limit migration due to explicit quotas from certain countries. Lastly, the uncertainty, culture shock, and detachment from home associated with migrating are the main psychological factors that prevent citizens from migrating. EMsmile (talk) 14:11, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useful text block on "Stagnation of the Population"? 

message: Only one in thirty global citizens have ever migrated, while only about 2 percent of the 281 million immigrants across borders are from developing countries. The benefit of migration for developing countries is exponential. As a result of internal migration from unproductive rural areas to urban areas, there is a reallocation of labor that aids productivity, output, and economic development.> As economic growth occurs, income and standard of living also grows. If residents are able to immigrate across countries, the citizens themselves can match their skills more effectively to a respective economy, bettering their own livelihood. Immigrants are able to raise their per capita income by over 30 percent.
Unfortunately, there are many factors that are specific to developing countries that prevent migration. Misinformation and lack of accessibility in rural conditions leave citizens misled and unaware of the opportunities that they have. Additionally, there are liquidity constraints because of the high levels of poverty that make migrating impossible due to the high costs of moving. As well, there are explicit policy barriers that directly limit migration due to explicit quotas from certain countries. Lastly, the uncertainty, culture shock, and detachment from home associated with migrating are the main psychological factors that prevent citizens from migrating. EMsmile (talk) 14:11, 7 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stagnation of the Population 

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