Talk:White-winged fairywren

message: A very nice article, a pleasure to read. I have a few suggestions and only one major concern: 
#How about a caption for the infobox picture? (done)
#:Is the first letter supposed to be capitalized? delldot talk 20:26, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA review

message: I didn't make it through the whole article because I saw a few things with the referencing that still haven't been fixed from the previous review.  I'll give it a full review once these have been addressed.  
Just to note, of my points from the previous review, 2, 10, 13, and 18 haven't been addressed, but none of them is important and this can easily pass without addressing them.  A few minor points, plus the referencing thing:
#"However, like other fairy-wrens, the Superb Fairy-wren is unrelated to the true wren (family Troglodytidae)."  Superb?  This is the first mention of the word, I think it needs explanation. Superb --> White-winged (botched cut-and-pasted) oops  
#Under "Subspecies", is there a reason why it's "blue-and-white", not "blue and white"? The first two subspecies have a proper name of "Black-and-white Fairy-wren" (as opposed to the most widespread one which is blue and white. I have always assumed there were hyphens but I'll doublecheck on the official name. 
#:Oh, sorry, I should have been clearer: I only meant when you're using it as an adjective, e.g. "the birds are blue and white", also with black.  I'm sure when it's in the name that's fine. delldot on a public computer talk 04:04, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem - all good feedback and much appreciated. Have away :) Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:41, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, fast!  Good work.  I'll begin reviewing now.  Apologies for the delay, I'm at work, and they're actually making me work tonight (the cheek!). But it's my first priority till it's done :) delldot on a public computer talk 05:53, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Take your time. I had some unexpected free time, but I'll be busy soon :( Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 06:36, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New review: partial

message: Yes, this is definitely in great shape now!  Here's my breakdown:
1. Well written?: Yes, very well done.  Not overly technical, which is quite an accomplishment.  
2. Factually accurate?: Reference problems have been thoroughly dealt with. Excellent work with the secondary/tertiary sources, really a great deal of progress was made in a short time.   
3. Broad in coverage?: Appears to me to cover everything without unnecessary detail.
4. Neutral point of view?: Fine
5. Article stability?: No problems
6. Images?: Check
Congratulations!  Well deserved, I certainly made you work for this one, but I suppose I'll finally let you have it:  ;) delldot on a public computer talk 07:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice work Cas! dihydrogen monoxide (H2O) 09:02, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA

message: Now I'm just being ridiculously nitpicky, since something gives me the impression that this is going to FAC soon ;)
#"a troop of White-winged Fairy-wrens are" is troop singular?  Is this a subject verb agreement problem? (yes. Well picked up) 
#Did my comma before "with a shorter tail" change the meaning?  Which one has the shorter tail?
#"Males typically weigh between 7.2 g..." I assume this is something in the intro or discussion of this paper, not the results from this study, correct?  If the latter, there would be a problem generalizing, and you'd have to change this to "a 1998 study found that..." or find a review. (changed reference to the monograph)
#It would be great to get an image of a juvenile for the description section, especially for FAC.
#I'm not sure "medium-blue" needs a hyphen. (doesn't add anything so removed)
#"whose colour vision extends into this spectrum" does ultra violet count as a spectrum, or is it, like, part of a spectrum or something? (well spotted. converted to 'this part of the spectrum.')
#"Although seemingly weak in sound, it carries a long way above the stunted shrubland." Which does, the chip or the reel? (reel)
#"They commonly cohabit with other species" is a switch from singular to plural. (missed converting this to singular before)
#If you want more images, you could use one from floodplain or another area (under habitat) to show where they hang out.  
#Maybe there should be a fairy-wren navbox, or a navbox for all the members of this family or something.  
#"...amounts of extra-pair mating", don't know if 'amounts' is the right word. 'Frequencies'?  Or reword altogether.  (amounts --> incidences. dang, meant to do that before)
#"Blue-plumaged males have been seen outside of their territory and in some cases, carrying pink or purple petals, which among other species, advertise the male to neighboring females." Unclear, especially with the parenthetical "which among other species".
I just couldn't give this article the green circle it so clearly deserves without also giving you some more trouble. :P Congratulations, great work! delldot on a public computer talk 07:17, 17 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: More suggestions

message: I just gave the article another copyedit. Overall, it looks great. However, I do have a few questions, outlined below:
-In Taxonomy, who are Mack and Schodde and why are they authorities? 
-Also in Taxonomy, the article states that Mack gave it the name leuconotus and the following authors, well, followed. However, the specific name is leucopterus. Is this just a typo, or is another author missing? (OK, the mainland and most widely distributed form is the blue leuconotus, but the first one collected was leucopterus on a tiny little island, and is hence nominate race. I have tried to clarify it) 
-In the first bit of the subspecies subsection, should the Black-and-White Fairy-wren be in italics? (yeah, was for emphasis but looks odd next to scientific names, so I dropped it)
-The article could use some more images. I'm assuming that there are no more of the bird, but perhaps a pictures of its habitat could be included? Also, has an attempt been made to get a range map? (I am working on it. Someone is making a map) 
-Additionally, the citation format look odd to me and may need to be changed to standard for a FAC; please tell me if it is acceptable though, as it looks simpler than normal.
Again, a pretty good article with just a few potential minor problems. Aso, you may wish to take a glance at the copyedit changes I made to ensure I did not accidentally change the meaning, though I do think I avoided anything like that with this article. Thanks.Rufous-crowned Sparrow (talk) 16:40, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some More Copyediting Notes 

message: I'm not sure who can edit this but WWFW can be found near Inglewood, S. Queensland which is extends the range map far more east (Inglewood is 266 km west of Brisbane) Aviceda  talk 07:12, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm... I had made the range map based off a map that Casliber e-mailed to me.  The map did not have the range of White-winged Fairy-wren getting quite that close to Brisbane.  The very edge of its range is about 600 km west of Brisbane in the map Cas provided.  I can easily adjust the map, but would need to know where to adjust it. --JayHenry (talk) 07:25, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi Jay, I really don't know about NSW but in QLD Inglewood is the extreme-edge and I don't think the species exists much further-north of there, I think the best bet would just be to extend the 'bulge' out a bit more...the field-guides seem to show this. Aviceda  talk 07:59, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sounds good by me....Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 08:45, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  There's a good ref map at  (you'll have to enter the species-name) Aviceda  talk 09:44, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've adjusted per the info at birdata.com.au. --JayHenry (talk) 00:51, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Range map incorrect 

message: I see that this has been discussed at FAC, but this section seems to split the Behaviour section. Should it be a sub-heading? Graham. GrahamColmTalk 09:19, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:42, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Predators and threats 

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replies: text: Why thankyou very much (said in best Elvis accent) Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:57, 15 December 2016 (UTC)
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