Talk:Sirius Satellite Radio

message: The subscriber info is from 2006 and is outdated. Remove?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.101.8.36 (talk) 18:06, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Subscriber counts

message: I moved the page.  Since Wikipedia's Manual of Style mandates this, there can be no question.--User:naryathegreat | (talk) 02:49, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)
:: in that case, make sure to pick up the pillows too, and anything else that ISN'T capitalized for some reason or other.~~
It's "SIRIUS Satellite Radio". That's the official trademark. It's on my business card. It's on all of the official correspondance and documentation. It's the official print method of referring to the company in the last revision of the corporate style guide. Any questions? :)
Jbmcb 18:39, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved

message: I wanted to post this somewhere but it did not seem appropriate to place this in the main article so I put it here.
I had been listening to Howard Stern for more than 5 years in the Kitchener/Waterloo area over Rogers Cable (WBUF 92.9 Buffalo) until June-1-2005 when Rogers Communications and/or the CRTC cut off my access. (I say and/or because after contacting both of them they blamed each other in snail-mail letters sent to me)
So now someone (CRTC? SIRIUS?) is blocking my choices again. At age 53 you would think that I would be allowed to "subscribe" to what ever I want, including the humourous antics of a popular radio comedian. I guess I was wrong in thinking that there is a free market economy in Canada.
As a side note, my father-in-law escaped communist controlled Czechoslovakia in 1980 and brought his family with him. I thought I was listening to stories from a by-gone era when I learned he purchased a black market radio then only powered it up late at night to listen to "Radio-Free Europe". I thought it sounded like an episode of "Hogan's Heroes".
So now it is 2005-12 and someone in Canada is now restricting me in a similar way.
--Neilrieck 13:12, 19 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In cases like this, the best way to deal with the government's attempt to control your life is to ignore them. Drive across the border, buy a Sirius receiver - whichever one you want - and activate it. (You have to buy it in the US because the receivers sold in each country have different firmware chips. US receivers can't receive the Canadian channel lineup and vice versa.) You'll have to play a couple of tricks with your credit card as well, because they've started checking what country each credit card is from, but it's not hard to do, just annoying. Check out this thread on the Sirius Backstage forum for more details. --Aaron 05:17, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I call bullshit; the CRTC at no time made any attempt to tell Rogers that it couldn't carry WBUF on FM cable. Bearcat 04:54, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Howard Stern In Canada (not) 

message: I've been asked and I dont myself know... Sirius is carried over Dish Network... will the Howard Stern sirius content be carried by Dish Networks? Anyone know?  ALKIVAR™ 20:31, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Dish Network only carries Sirius music channels. --Aaron 20:38, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Howard Stern

message: When did Sirius start broadcasting? Paul, in Saudi 16:59, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: IIRC, Sirius officially launched July 1, 2002, but was offering some sort of "beta" service to a limited number of people before that date. --Aaron 18:14, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Start of Operation?

message: Due to the elliptical orbit of Sirius' satellites, is their service receivable in the rest of the world outside of North America/western hemisphere, or is the apogee there of the satellites too far away to facilitate receiving a strong enough signal for a Sirius radio to lock on to?
misternuvistor 22:12, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind this post, my slow mind just figured out that this answer would be no, since the only uplink facilities for Sirius would be in the United States (AFAIK), and the satellites would be well under the horizon of said uplink station in the USA.  Another uplink station would be needed in the eastern hemisphere, if Sirius' satellites are close (or sensitive) enough to receive (and transmit) a signal in their apogee of their elliptical orbit.  Pardon my idiocy. :P misternuvistor 22:19, 15 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Well yes, but Sirius' satellites are not geostationary (like XM's), they orbit around the earth in an elliptical path, with the perigee (closest point to the earth) being right over North America.  There are 3 of these satellites orbiting, so in the event that one orbits under the horizon, another will be popping out above the horizon to provide continuous coverage.  Sirius decided to use this type of satellite coverage to gain less inclination for the satellites in order to have them higher in the sky for better coverage between mountains, low valleys, and other surrounded terrain, AFAIK.  Just thought I'd correct you about that, not to be a blowhard or anything. misternuvistor 03:23, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I probably should have clarified my terms in my previous post.  By 'geosynch(ronous)' I meant that each Sirius satellite has a 24-hour orbital period.  The inclination of the satellites is the reason they're not geostationary (which is a special case of geosynchronous).  Also, a small correction to your description of the orbit:  The perigee (closest approach to the Earth) is above South America.  The apogee (furthest out point on the orbit) is above the US.  In practice (and I'm working from memory here, so I may be off by a bit), each satellite spends about 2/3s of its time above (north of) the equator and the remaning third below the equator.  Your description of why this constellation was chosen is correct.  Saturn V 03:43, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was utterly confused in my previous postings.  I assumed that the Sirius birds stayed put longitudinally (no north-south motion, staying fixed over the equator) and had an egg-shaped eccentric orbit traveling east-west, with the perigee being right over the western hemisphere.  In other words, I was thinking that the orbit was being like a longitudinal hula-hoop with the earth being the "hooper", with each satellite orbiting in the same longitudinal plane, one after the other.  But I was wrong, and you are right.  If I understand correctly, the sats have a 24-hour period, but go north-south in a figure-8 pattern (just like the inclined orbit of the old Syncom 2 sat, but much more exaggerated)?  The diagram just recently posted to this article (Image:Sirius_orbit_Earth.JPG) clarified this quite greatly for me.  Pardon my cluelessness and misunderstanding... :P misternuvistor 11:11, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Sirius online stream, while not including every channel, includes music channels a select amount of talk channels, and both Howard Stern channels. You can have an internet only Sirius subscription. While the satellites may not be able to reach areas outside of the US and Canada the internet is world wide. So Sirius is world wide technically. Redd Dragon 17:05, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sirius receivable in the rest of the world? 

message: I am pretty sure Sirius does not have access to Big Ten Sports programming.  I think that exclusivity is with XM?--Gangster Octopus 23:03, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big Ten 

message: Sirius Canada should be merged with the official Sirius Satellite Radio article for the reasons that each section of this article can be found in both Howard Stern and Sirius Satellite Radio articles. Not to mention the fact that most of the article is already included in the main Sirius article. With the merged there should be a re-write of the Sirius Canada article under the Sirius Satellite Radio page. 
Table of Contents: 
* Info box – This should be moved to be placed in the Sirius Canada section of the Sirius article 
* Subscription package – This is included in the List of Sirius Satellite Radio stations 
* Other differences – Should be included in under Sirius Canada of Sirius Satellite Radio
* Howard Stern – The terrestrial radio history of Howard Stern has nothing to do with Sirius or Sirius Canada. It already is included where it should be, Howard Stern’s article. The other half, which talks about Sirius Canada, is included in both Howard 100 and the Howard Stern articles. Redd Dragon  talk Contributions 18:26, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Other services where identical kit provides highly similar services to two countries but marketed/run seperate are in one article though. Viasat serve half of Northern Europe with satellite TV, its not split in to Viasat Sweden and Viasat Estonia and so on; Sky Digital serves 2 (and a bit, however you want to class the IOM and Channel Islands), with quite different services; one article. --Kiand 18:52, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Viasat is one company operating in multiple countries. Sirius is not; it's two separate companies offering similar but not identical services in different countries. Bearcat 22:21, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Again, the reason for the category issue is that Sirius Canada is not a subsidiary of Sirius; it is a separate, independent company, incorporated separately by different owners, which franchises the service separately. I'd also like to add that XM Radio Canada must be treated identically; there is absolutely no way it would be remotely appropriate for XM to continue to have its own separate article if Sirius didn't. Bearcat 22:21, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sirius Satellite Radio and Sirius Canada Merge 

message: There is an enormous amount of links. The External links section is not meant to be Google or Yahoo! Search. The list is growing and growing with every fan site and every link someone finds on Google. It needs to be trimmed down. New links should not be added unless someone can explain on the talk page why it is really important. I think a lot of people are finding sites on Google and adding the link here. Redd Dragon  talk contributions  17:21, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That is not an acceptable solution per policy.  Who is to determine what link is allowed and what others aren't? -- Huntster T • @ • C 16:20, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh no, not this debate again! Trust me, Geoff - you don't want to tangle with Huntster on this. Per WP:EL, you should not link to fan sites. Sirius Backstage is the #1 site on a Google search for "Sirius Forums." I think it's easy enough to find without relying on WP. :)  -- TomXP411[Talk] 06:09, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why, thank you for the compliment Tom ;)  Anyway, slippery slope and all that jazz, heh. -- Huntster T • @ • C 06:12, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I still don't agree with you; I just don't want to see a reversion war. ;) I still think that the top 1 or 2 fan sites ought to be included, but since nobody seems to want to go to bat for that, I'm backing the current guidelines. -- TomXP411[Talk] 04:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links is becoming Google.  

message: I rewrote the Sirius Business section which was little more than a cut-and-paste of the AMTC announcement.  Shame on you!! --KJRehberg 02:28, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sirius Business section 

message: The launch of Sirius Internet Radio is likely to have some impact.  It is being operated as a separate business - offering many (but not all) of the channels offered on the Satellite radio station.
And since the service is now available worldwide as distinct from just US/Canada - the potential for attracting a new audience is considerable.  
This new development has been added - almost as a footnote - in the article.  I'm thinking that this should perhaps warrant a short separate article.  Any thoughts?  Davidpatrick 16:50, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Need to address development of Sirius Internet Radio

message: I hardly say the merger discussions qualify for being called a "buyout" so I removed those words. More so nothing has been confirmed and that whole section is merely speculation.
* I cited the Bloomberg report, which refers to the deal as a 4.57 billion dollar "buyout" of XM by Sirius. JaedenStormes 14:16, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger

message: I added links to the tracking pages of the Sirius Satellites. I could not figure out a good way to make it sound good, so I did the best I could. It could be moved to the links area, but its location seems relevant. Teh HM 01:57, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Satellite Tracking

message: The order of Net income and revenue is messed up ?!   —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.63.224.234 (talk) 18:13:45, August 19, 2007 (UTC) 
:I don't believe so.  Why exactly do you believe it is out of order? -- Huntster T • @ • C 18:36, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Income/Revenue?

message: According to the site that Teh HM mentioned under the heading "Satellite Tracking", it looks like the satellites actually spend much more time over Canada than over the US. Sirius's assertion that "at least one satellite is over the country at all times" is untrue. They spend about 6 hours per orbit over almost the exact center of Canada, when they are at their apogees; they are only over the US on their way to and from Canada, which is about 2-3 hours per orbit. If anyone has the patience to verify this, the main article should be corrected. Qbert203 17:07, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The satellites are over canada more than the US?! 

message: The PR reference is is of feb. 07, not Dec. 07 to 08... i think it may be outdated, can anyone update this possiable FCC leagal debacle confermation for merger? -67.160.127.140 (talk) 07:27, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why does it matter when this particular reference is dated from, and where does "December 7 to 8" come from?  The merger talks are still in progress as far as I know, so this ref should probably stay in place unless a new one can be found to replace it. -- Huntster T • @ • C 12:34, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  XM-Sirus Merger 

message: Okay, where are the figures in the infobox coming from for Revenue and Net Income? I ask because the net income is listed as higher than the revenue. Um, no it doesn't work like that. Are the figures just transposed or is something else going on?Ben W Bell talk 19:42, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revenue and net income 

message: Hi, I am bolstering up the Modern_legacy Section on the Sirius page. If someone gets me a ref for this article I can use it. cheers,  Casliber (talk · contribs) 04:51, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reliable Source reference for name 

message: Due to the recent U.S. Justice Dept. approval of the Sirius-XM merger, I hereby propose the merging of the Sirius Satellite Radio and XM Satellite Radio articles. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.143.170.172 (talk • contribs) March 25, 2008
* Oppose No hurry needed. There is good reason to keep the articles separate until all approvals have been issued by US and Canadian regulatory agencies, an actual corporate merger has been accomplished and all services have been actually been combined. It will be many months more before that occurs. -- Yellowdesk (talk) 01:44, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge proposal

message: The first sentence of the article is not entirely correct. Sirius XM owns all of the American Sirius service, but only 20% of Sirius Canada, which is also a private company. Rewrites to that extent on my part have looked way too awkward. Perhaps someone else is up to the challenge?Hairhorn (talk) 00:59, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sirius Canada (again) 

message: In the lead it says that "On July 29, 2008, Sirius formally completed its merger with former competitor XM Satellite Radio. The combined company began operating under the name Sirius XM Radio." If Sirius XM is completely separate and distinct from Sirius Satellite Radio, then why is the official website given in the infobox is for SiriusXM.com. Shouldn't the link it be for Sirius Satellite Radio's official website, if such a link exists. I can't find anything on the XM website that even mentions SSR. - Marchjuly (talk) 08:02, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official website 

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thread_title:  External links modified (January 2018) 

message: Hello,
This article seems to provide wrong information in the following sentence and the related info in Infobox etc.:
On January 13, 2011, Sirius Satellite Radio was dissolved as a separate entity and merged into Sirius XM Radio, Inc.[5]
The provided link: https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/908937/000095012311014617/y88211e10vk.htm does not prove that the company was dissolved.
What actually happened, was a merger through a dedicated subsidiary (Merger Sub) - Vernon Merger Corporation - that merged with and into XM, and then XM became a wholly-owned subsidiary of SIRIUS.
Sirius did not go defunct! It was renamed from Sirius Satellite Radio Inc. to Sirius XM Radio Inc. on August 5, 2008.
Please see extensive details in the following sources:
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/908937/000119312509049874/d10k.htm
https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/908937/000095012307013423/y37192a4sv4za.htm
This article can represent a radio service, but it should not represent a defunct company. Instead, some info about the preceding entity (Sirius Satellite Radio) might be added to the Sirius XM article.
91.217.58.167 (talk) 14:13, 16 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger with XM and surviving organization 

message: Let me know if they changed the stations on my Serius 2600:1006:B009:6B09:718C:98BA:8453:E2B4 (talk) 01:34, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  CNN is at what number