Talk:Empire (1977 video game)

message: Link to http://www.strategicdomination.com/ removed; this is different game, though obviously influenced by Empire.  Should the link be restored to the current publisher, http://killerbeesoftware.com/ ? Don (talk) 16:13, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the removal of Strategic Domination (it's been done a number of times here, and on Strategic Conquest) - the persistance makes it look like advertising, and as you say, while based on this game, it's its own game, not Empire. I also think that the Killer Bee link should be put back in the article. While I did put it there in the first place I've since tried to get in touch with the editor who removed it, so until he puts forward a good reason against it being there then it should be present - their games are the legal successors in the series which was started by Walter Bright, and as such it should be considered an official website along with Mr. Bright's www.classicempire.com in my opinion. --xensyriaT 15:25, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Person who just replaced Strategic Domination link does appear self-interested, based on repeated edits to add this link, remove the Killer Bee link, and truncate the description of the current Empire version, EDEE.  There is an active hobbiest community centered on EDEE user-created extensions, and I think the article should at least hint at this. Have replaced Killer Bee link and expanded EDEE description.  Will leave Strategic Domination link, but think further removals of Killer Bee link or unjustified edits of EDEE description should be watched-for and reversed.Don (talk) 17:02, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's strategicdomination is spam - it's been added to several pages by various SPA accounts and IP addresses. I've removed it. - MrOllie (talk) 17:11, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: 4X may look like a simple category to place Empire into, but it isn't 4X at all. Empire more or less invented the strategy genre that followed the Explore, Expand, Exterminate model, but the Exploit element is lacking in its classic form: no resources to gather, and (at least until Deluxe when production efficiency was introduced) no straightforward efficiency boosting. This is the new element that distinguished Master of Orion (and the others that followed it) from its contemporaries and led to the invention of the 4X name. Enhanced Edition has introduced resources, which arguably makes it an atypical 4X, but as the article is covering the series of games and the classic, most notable versions aren't 4X then calling it 4X is a mistake. In conclusion as the labelling of Empire as 4X seems to be from it having the hallmarks of pre-4X games that the classic 4X games drew on, the article should not refer to the series as a whole or any individual game except Enhanced Edition as 4X: I won't get into whether or not the article should be in the 4X category or not, but unless anyone has a valid reason to restore them I will continue to remove all inappropriate references to 4X. 194.80.178.253 (talk) 19:58, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not 4X 

message: In the late 1980s I played a version of this game on the Mac, which I'm pretty sure was Empire Deluxe. However, the maps looked very much different; the "continents" were built from overlapping ovals, in contrast to the screen shots here which look like they were generated by a diffusion algo.
The version I played was the subject of an extensive review in either MacWorld or MacUser, but I cannot find it today.
Does anyone recall this version? Neither the original nor Deluxe appear to be the one I played, although I'm 90% certain it was from New World. Maury Markowitz (talk) 16:49, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Ahhh, mystery solved. The version in question is Strategic Conquest Plus. Maury Markowitz (talk) 17:06, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  A different Mac version?