Talk:Scotland/Archive 2

message: Should discuss Scottish heraldry (here or in separate article)?  --Daniel C. Boyer 20:59, 16 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Heraldry and Lyon

message: Removed the following from the Education section:
One of the most widely-known Scottish historians, Dr. David Alexander Thomson Mackie, is best known for his treatment of 18th Century Scottish portaiture, especially that of Raeburn.
It could go in a separate article(s) on Mackie, and/or Scottish historiography and/or Scottish art history, but I feel it does not belong in a generalised overview of Education in Scotland. Pedant17 01:05, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education, Art, Mackie

message: The reason for the SAMPA was that it is not obvious to most English readers that Alba has three syllables nor that the b denotes a sound similar to English p. English speakers are often misled by Gaelic spelling and SAMPA is useful to keep them on the right lines.  The alternative is to put up with grating mispronunciations like Kate-lynn for Caitlin instead of the correct Kathleen as English speakers automatically apply English pronunciation rules to Gaelic spelling and come up with the wrong sounds. -- Derek Ross
Two points:
1) this is not the article on Alba - I see no particular reason for providing the pronunciation in SAMPA here.  2) The Alba page already provided a pronunciation before the SAMPA was added there. 3) SAMPA is not a particularly well known pronunciation system.  I'd certainly never seen or heard of it before coming across it in this article.  I think we can provide a pronunciation guide without using such a weird looking pronunciation system - how many people really have any idea what those symbols mean?  john k 03:47, 28 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it should be here.  Alba is a redirect page in denial. SAMPA and IPA are, for the layman (i.e. me) entirely useless, and indeed the gaelic spelling is worse than useless for pronunciation.  I wouldn't, however, be at all averse to a link to a wav/ogg of someone saying the word in question. -- Finlay McWalter |  Talk 11:24, 28 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation of Alba

message: I'm sure I remember seeing something to the effect that Bank of England pound notes, when such things existed, were legal tender in Scotland, and that pound and two pound coins still are. Yet this page says that Scots law has no concept of legal tender. Do we have any references for that? Marnanel 01:17, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: quoth the Bank of England:
 The current series of Bank of England notes are legal tender in England and Wales, 
 although not in Scotland or Northern Ireland, where the only currency carrying legal 
 tender status for unlimited amounts is the one pound and two pound coins.
 -- Finlay McWalter |  Talk 01:20, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, that sounds like what I remembered reading. So the article's wrong to say that "Scots law lacks the concept" [of legal tender]? Marnanel 01:22, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Subtly wrong, but in a complicated way that I defy anyone to succinctly explain.  It gets more complex still here. -- Finlay McWalter |  Talk 01:24, 17 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scots law and legal tender