Talk:Gerry Spence

message: User Coastda edited this page, but I feel it might be best to revert to previous incarnation as Coastda is using two Bars for proof, as the trial they refer to (Michael Jones, Jr.) was convicted but it was overturned on appeal.  At the same time, Coastda states as counter proof to Spence not having lost a civil case that some (undocumented, unsourced) were overturned on appeal.
A brief websearch of spence and coastda creates the impression of one of hostility, imo Coastda has a personal grudge and is trying to smear the image of Spence. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Atechi (talk • contribs) 18:34, May 18, 2006 (UTC)
In an effort to keep POV in context there is no question that Spence won two big trials which were subsequently completely overturned on appeal (Silkwood and Miss Wyoming vs. Penthouse) . 
Spence's book, "The Smoking Gun" was Mr. Spence's version of two trials that is at substantial variance with ,y recollections, having been the prosecutor in the first trialCoastda (talk) 03:12, 2 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV issue

message: Give Me Liberty seems to also be a comic book. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.35.129.2 (talk • contribs) 21:50, July 12, 2006 (UTC)
:removed referance link, it is unlikely that Gerry's book need inclusion.Atechi 20:03, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  bad link 

message: Gerry Spence's wife's name is Imaging, not Imogene. Please see the book Making of a Country Lawyer. This should not be changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lglegl (talk • contribs) 15:42, December 3, 2006 (UTC)
:True. — Satori Son 16:15, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Spouse's name spelling

message: In the list of books by Gerry Spence, a citation is made on the Smoking Gun item to a decidedly biased blog entry written by one of the subjects of the book. While this might be appropriate in the context of a section regarding controversy over the book, I don't think it has a legitimate place as a standalone reference in a simple list of works.
I'm going to remove that citation, rename the section to "Bibliography," and additionally remove the superfluous reference number 5, which only points to a brief bio, not a list of his published works. I'll leave in place the final citation of the section (but re-arrange its position so it will be more easily interpreted as a source for a list of his works, and not as some sort of reference applicable to a particular book), as it seems reasonable to interpret it as an authoritative list of his works in print.
But I'm no expert Wikipedia editor, so I welcome criticism and alternative views. --Skidoo (talk) 17:03, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV problem with citation in bibliography 

message: On 4 Dec 2000, after Judge N. Sanders Sauls had issued his ruling concerning the vote recount in Florida, Gerry Spence was one of the panelists on CNBC's Rivera Live. Spence commented to the effect that "judges, after all, are the ultimate politicians," and he also stated that this matter would be revisited by "The Supreme Political Court of the United States."Italus (talk) 19:49, 12 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: The Supreme Political Court of the United States

message: There are several unverified facts which have been marked for some time now. Since nobody has produced any citations, I'm going to go ahead and delete them.74.228.64.159 (talk) 21:37, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unverified Facts 

message: The "It's a lie" assertion was added to the lead paragraph Revision 17:56, 31 Oct 2010, by IP 220.255.1.165. Referenced to the Kozinski article without a link. I provided a link to the article 20 Jan 2011. 
: But see Sherrie F. Nachman, "True Lies, Starring Gerry Spence," Am. Law., Sept. 1994, at 13 (disputing Spence's claim and quoting one victorious Spence adversary, "It's a lie."). (ref'd to Alex Kozinski, In Praise of Moot Court--Not!, Columbia Law Review, Vol. 97, No. 1 (Jan., 1997), pp. 178-197, fn.19)
The "But see..." exhoration is hollow for WP since Nachman's article is not readily available. On second look at Kozinski citing Nachman, the "It's a Lie" assertion was a word for word copy of the last sentence of footnote 19.
:"n19. There's one famous exception: Gerry Spence, at least to hear him tell it. See Gerry Spence, Gunning for Justice 47 (1982). But see Sherrie F. Nachman, True Lies, Starring Gerry Spence, Am. Law., Sept. 1994, at 13 (disputing Spence's claim made in Gunning for Justice and widely reported by the media, and quoting one victorious Spence adversary, "It's a lie.")."
Spence claims on his website: "He has never lost a criminal case either as a prosecutor or a defense attorney." The WP article stated: "Spence claims to have never lost a criminal case with a trial by jury in the over 50 years he practiced law." The "It's a lie" claim against Spence's own claim requires that a case lost before a judge in criminal court (bench trial) but overturned on appeal be counted as a loss. If the condition "trial by jury" is added the "It's a lie" assertion rings hollow.
I see the nameless adversary "It's a lie" assertion as UNDUE emphasis for the lead of an BLP article and can be seen as plagiaristic and libelous. Naaman Brown (talk) 12:29, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is "It's a lie" assertion appropriate in the lead of a BLP? 

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