Talk:Auferstanden aus Ruinen

message: I put it back. Nowhere in the text made it clear what "SED" means or is. As a fact, if I didn't have and old version of this page saved in my computer, I would never even imagine what it meant. 200.191.155.90 (talk) 03:08, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  SED link 

message: 20.05.2007 Can we get a source on the claim that the DDR's government banned the lyrics and attempted to destroy all print copies of the words?  Every Ossi I've ever been friendly with has known the words by heart and many sang them with pride.
: Just added a source. The lyrics weren't exactly banned, but between the mid-1970s and 1989, only the instrumental version was played at official occasions (radio, television etc). The lyrics were revived in the 1989 protests as a claim for reunification. This use of the lyrics was breaking an unwritten taboo at the time, but it brought them back to public awareness. You can probably assume that many East Germans in the 1970s/80s generation heard them for the first time then. Anorak2 18:57, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That was during the transitional phase from singing to instrumental. Later East German records would feature the instrumental version only. Anorak2 18:57, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, of course an anthem that has a text will be represented with the text in songbooks, even though it is never sung, for political reasons as here or for other reasons. The only version you will ever hear of Ich hatt' einen Kameraden is ba ba babba ba ba baaa ba with a trumpet, for I know not what reason, maybe because it's impressive with a trumpet and the trumpet is too loud for the singers. But it is still given with text in all songbooks of German traditional songs worth their salt.--2001:A61:20A3:EA01:BD21:ECFC:CE90:27F3 (talk) 16:58, 23 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I went to school in East-Germany from 1980 until 1990 and we had to learn the lyrics of our anthem in music class as well as we had to sing it. Since we had to learn each text for every song we sung, our music-teacher usually let us sing not the first verses, but the following, because when singing as choir we usually sang the first and only the first. 
Our schoolbooks contained the text as well and it never occurred to me, that the hymn was 'suppressed' (we often enough heard it instrumentally after sport events). Although on official occasions, we mostly sang party-songs of the workers-movement and the "Internationale".
2A02:8071:3ED9:8A00:B094:FD71:E683:9F6F (talk) 17:19, 29 March 2022 (UTC)

text: I started school in 1986 and in my songbook only the music sheet of the anthem without the text was printed. (My mother, a teacher, had an earlier printing of the same book and there the lyrics were included.) So I can at least confirm that there was an effort to downplay the lyrics. 2A02:8109:A4C0:44F8:198E:9125:6ADA:2A7C (talk) 17:21, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Dropped Lyrics

message: I would propose this as a more elegant and accurate translation of "auferstanden". Any thoughts? 121.44.197.252 (talk) 15:14, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely, as auferstehen as well as resurrect is a religious term and usually goes along with Jesus Christ--Ginness (talk) 22:12, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  resurrected actually means wiedererstanden or wieder auferstanden. If you want elegance and accuracy, use: arisen (or even surrected) 
2A02:8071:3ED9:8A00:B094:FD71:E683:9F6F (talk) 17:23, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: "Resurrected"

message: "Official SED English translation" should be changed to "Official SED English-language version" as it does not pretend to be a straight translation: as ever when songs are "translated" for singing in another language, the version in the second language is a compromise between the desire to express the sentiment and images of the original and the need to find words that fit the tune metrically and suitable rhymes.
As for the "English literal translation", however, that is a horror as it stands at present: a mixture of what looks like attempted word-for-word pidgin Germano-English (far too literal an interpretation of the word "literal"!), machine-translationese, and plain nonsense! >> Old distress(-!-)ought to be managed well, and her we unified(-!-)dressure << is no kind of English at all, and what are those (-!-)s doing in the middle of what should be "fair copy", fit for inclusion in an encyclopedia article? I propose restoring the version of 22 December 2008 (i.e. before anonymous user 82.215.55.201 began tearing it to bits), which may have minor faults here and there but is at least written in English! --Picapica (talk) 11:20, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translations 

message: Germany was divided into four Zones of Occupation (Soviet, US, British, and French) while the city of Berlin, not a part of any Zone, was divided into four Sectors (USSR, US, UK, France).  I have changed the reference to Sectors to Zones.
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message: Maybe it is worth to note, that the phrase "Deutschland, einig Vaterland" was one of the most popular slogans in the mass demonstrations, which took place in East Germany after the "Wende" 1989/90.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.47.4.79 (talk) 16:36, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
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message: After the lyrics were discontinued in the '70s, what was the song referred to by? Was it still called "Auferstanden aus Ruinen" or something else? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 05:12, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
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message: I've noticed the literal translation has a citation needed for quite some time.
correct me if I'm wrong; but since it is a near word for word copy of a translation, unlike the singable poetic version, does it require a source? Rozzli (talk) 15:57, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know what happened to it, but as a native German speaker, the changes to it over the past year have been atrocious and some are downright wrong. -- 84.163.104.108 (talk) 15:23, 10 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  About literal translation 

message: Why is it Wikipedia's job to provide a bad, unsourced, "poetic translation" of this or any other foreign-language song? Constant Pedant (talk) 10:42, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: "Poetic translation"

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message: The reference for "[...] East German television Deutscher Fernsehfunk reinstated the work and signed off every night with a joyous symphonic rendition of the vocal arrangement, with accompanying picturesque footage of East Germany's main tourist attractions." is a dead Youtube link. I will replace the reference with another YouTube video, which is dated to 1990-06-14. 88.132.220.153 (talk) 14:46, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead reference link for 'joyous rendition' on DFF closedown.