Wikipedia talk:Non-free content/Fair use images in lists

message: I have archived the (long) discussion page since it's been dead for quite some time. As discussions seem to go in rounds and rounds and lead nowhere I have decided to be bold and finalize the debates. Two times editors voted, and it seems we have a pretty good consensus, so let's try one more time. Renata 02:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

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# Strongly. Renata 02:06, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Support

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#I completely and totally oppose. Blanket policy like this has about a snowball's chance in hell of getting support. When we say "use as little as possible" we mean use only what the article needs, and you cannot generically assign a number to that. Fair use images in lists do not fail number 3, as this proposal suggests, by numbers alone. Even if I were against fair-use images in lists I would not support this proposal for those reasons. Again, I stand beside images being used in some lists of episodes when those screenshots are able to provide unique episode identification. I'd repeat all the reasons why I support fair use images in lists, but I don't think this proposal will get anywhere with it's current wording. -- Ned Scott 03:01, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Oppose

message: Currently these articles have loads of FU images. Can somebody tell me on how to minimize/remove them? --Howard the Duck 16:15, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is perfectly acceptable to use fair use within a list, the images on List of Maging Sino Ka Man episodes have fair use rationales and so there would be no reason to remove them. Maging Sino Ka Man also looks fine. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 16:27, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But the thing is, there's too many of them (criteria #3), making me wonder if they're fairly used. (I actually realize this is the wrong page to ask this but WT:FU is taking forever to load.) --Howard the Duck 16:42, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Do you see an artificial limit? "The amount of copyrighted work used should be as little as possible. Low-resolution images should be used instead of high-resolution images (especially images that are so high-resolution that they could be used for piracy). Do not use multiple images or media clips if one will serve the purpose adequately." - One per episode is as little as possible; One per character is as little as possible; Two or more images of the same character/episode (unless it is really needed) would be excessive and a violation of the FUC. thanks/Fenton, Matthew Lexic Dark 52278 Alpha 771 18:29, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been brought up several times before, we've never reached consensus or a reasonable compromise, in terms of FUC#3. I don't see any flaw in Matthew's interpretation, and I agree with him. Jay32183 19:02, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Curiously, another editor told me to get rid of all of them. I see this is a contentious issue, and I won't proceed until there's an agreement here. Although this TV series is aired five times a week, so having a screenshot on every episode seems to be too much. I'd rather have one screenshot per week or even one screenshot on one major story arc. --Howard the Duck 04:44, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That editor didn't use FUC#3 as his argument, which is what your question was about. You probably want to consider the way the images are being used in the list, and if they are actually serving that purpose. If one image per episode is not the best way to present the information then perhaps you should reduce the number. Jay32183 07:14, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Maging Sino Ka Man]] and [[List of Maging Sino Ka Man episodes]]