Talk:Toronto Maple Leafs/Archive 1

message: Someone keeps adding this to the "Following" section: "Typically fans have severe mental or drinking problems in order to create the illusion of a team that has a chance. The people who follow the leafs hold on to the idea that the leafs have a chance and despite 40 years of being completely unsuccessful as a team. Management does not plan on improving the quality of the team because the fans so blindly follow the team."
--Could someone edit the Ballard years section? I'm no fan of Ballard but it's biased to the point of sounding bitter and amateurish (no offence to whoever wrote it). 
Someone please change the spelling of the word "COLORS" in the infor box on the right hand side to read "COLOURS".  This is a Canadian club and should reflect our style (proper) of English.  Thanks.
: Can't be done.  Those infoboxes are standard templates used league-wide.  RGTraynor 21:29, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently because "Maple Leaf" is a proper name, and so the plural simply adds an "S" rather than following the usual rules. Just as the correct plural of Land Rover's Discovery car is "Discoverys" rather than "Discoveries".  Loganberry 01:54, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Random Stuff

message: What is the criteria for a player to be considered a prospect?
What decides that one prospect is better than another?
Isn't this a little subjective?
-- Theycallmemorty 13:04, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Very much so, and it is seldom (if anywhere) found on any other NHL team page.  I'm quite comfy with it being deleted here.  RGTraynor 13:36, 28 September 2005 (UTC)

text: If it's a useful enough page, and broken down by NHL team, it's certainly not inappropriate for it to be included in the External Links section.  RGTraynor 01:35, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top Prospects? 

message: Discuss why you want it to be removed. --Tykell 16:48, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Because Wikipedia is not a news source. If you want to add wins/loses you should make a list of all the wins/losses for all the seasons. Then it would be relevant. Right now this page lacks such a table, but many other teams have them. -- Earl Andrew - talk 18:22, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Then you may replace it with a table. But please don't randomly delete it without a suitable replacement and not expect a response. --Tykell 18:38, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Of course a response is appropriate, but Earl's still right.  The proper time to discuss Toronto's won/loss record for the 2006 season is in June, not now.  RGTraynor 01:09, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Earl and RGTraynor are right. I will be adding a Season-by-season record soon (within the next week or three) and when that happens, fill your boots. Of course, you are quite welcome to add a Season-by-season record yourself as that would save me a lot of time. But don't just add the current season forgetting about the other hundred or so. Wikipedia isn't a news website. Masterhatch 05:47, 8 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  2005-2006 Season Standings 

message: How long did Steen live in Canada? If he lived maybe about ten years in Canada, then he should be listed as being Canadian. Though, he did play junior hockey in Finland, so perhaps he is Finnish. On the other hand, his father did play for the Jets. I don't know. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.188.172.165 (talk • contribs) 
:From what I hear, he spent his infancy in Canada and grew up in Sweden. But in any case, I believe that the nation of representation in international tournaments overrule everything else because it is a conscious declaration of allegiance rather than an uncontrollable accident by chance (such as birthplace). Steen played for Sweden, so thus he should have a Swedish flag, even if he spent 10 years in Canada or something. --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 16:36, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Unfortunately, not.  There's no particular consensus, and players are typically being claimed by partisan nationalists who can get a word in edgewise; hence craziness like Stan Mikita being claimed to be a "Slovakian" hockey player, for instance.  RGTraynor 20:55, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I did make a proposal for a guideline regarding this but not too many people paid attention to it. It's still there if you want to bring it up again for discussion. Right now, it's being used as a "guide" by several editors rather than as a real guideline or policy. --Buchanan-Hermit™..CONTRIBS..SPEAK! 08:33, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

text:  Perhaps this following article may shed some light into Steen's background: . "Young Alexander stickhandled into the world in 1984, in Winnipeg, and he lived in Canada until he was 12, when his father signed to play in the German League in Berlin. Three years after that, the family moved on to Sweden. So while he is listed as a European in Central Scouting, Steen is, in fact, a dual citizen."  In that same article, Steen is quoted as saying, "I consider myself half Swedish and half Canadian" Amchow78 03:12, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Steen

message: In these last few weeks, (due mainly to anon user(s) participation), a friendly edit dispute has grown. The arguement seems to be, weither or not Kaberle & McCabe are the only alternate captains (they're are when both are in the lineup). Tucker & (recently) Domi have been added to the list, however usually Tucker wears an 'A' when either Sundin, Kaberle or McCabe miss games, and Domi wears an 'A' when two of the previous four simutaneously miss games. So I'm asking all Wikipedians, WHO are the regular alternate captains? GoodDay 19:17, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternate captains

message: Part of the Maple Leafs article (current roster, team captains) is missing, has been for a couple of days. Does someone know how to restore it? GoodDay 15:49, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed the problem now. Thanks for bringing it up. SFrank85 16:13, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened? 

message: Instead of the normal "Wikipedia contributors", the name(s) of about 1 to 3 of the major authors of this article is needed, in order to cite this article. Could the regular editors to this article please make some suggestions? Kirjtc2 was the first editor, but there may be a better way to cite it than Kirby, J.P. (aka Kirjtc2) et al. Thanks. -- Jeandré, 2006-04-25t21:50z
: Err?  Why so?  The whole nature of Wikipedia flouts classic means of citation, although one might go back to the counterculture era of the Sixties and Seventies, when books were listed with various collectives and committees as authors.  In any event, a citation such as you list is quite proper.  RGTraynor 14:09, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Major authors of this article.

message: *  TML Unoffical Talk Forum
What's the point of this? ccwaters 20:50, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Which doesn't change the fact that it's noncompliant with WP:EL. See also "linkspam," the posting of external links of which one is an administrator, author, etc. That said, when the Leafs history section is complete, then maybe we see if it adds something beyond what the article does. Until then, no point adding it. —C.Fred (talk) 04:06, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: External Forum Links

message: What the heck happend here, both of these sections have been wiped out (earlier this month) to make room for a bunch of mumble jumble. Why can't the article remain in standard form, like the other 29 NHL team articles? GoodDay 15:29, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Team captains? Honored Numbers?

message: "The Leafs did not make the playoffs in 2006, finishing ninth in the Eastern Conference." An anon IP changed this from tenth - is it correct? Rich Farmbrough, 18:04 24  October 2006 (GMT).
:It is correct, and confirmed at NHL.com 2005/06 Standings. Toronto had the same regular-season record as (10th-place) Atlanta, but earned more points in their games against Atlanta. --Darthsco 03:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Check 

message: "Conversely, there is an equally passionate dislike of the team by fans of many (if not all) other teams, not just the Leafs' traditional rivals."
Is this really true? Yes, I can understand why fans of other Canadian teams might hate the Leafs, but this sentence makes it sound like the whole league is gunning for them and out for their blood. Which other teams' fanbases really hate the Leafs, besides all the other Canadian teams and some American ones (for instance, Detroit)? I was wondering if some examples could be given and discussed; otherwise, this sentence may need to be adjusted. Thanks. Gujuguy 19:29, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can assure you, for instance, that there is no generic hatred for the Leafs in Boston.  To be honest, whether this is just some grand projection by Buffalo, Detroit, Montreal and Ottawa fans is irrelevant; the whole bit is heavily POV and needs some serious sourcing from reputable secondary sources or else it needs to go.  RGTraynor 04:30, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dislike of the Leafs 

message: The team's management has been widely criticized for the trading away of vital draft picks in exchange for experienced veterans throughout the 90's, right up to the lost season of 2004-05 due to the NHL lockout.
I removed the above sentence from the article. It sounds POV to me, and has no sourcing (with a link, reference to a secondary source, or otherwise), so it's gone. Gujuguy 05:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed sentence

message: I noticed that this article has been vandalized many times.  How about semi-protecting it?  Thank you.  Johnny Au 18:05, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent vandalism

message: When the above fight dies down and someone can actually find citable facts on the issue, the article should certainly cover the history of the name and why it is the way it is.  I lived in T.O. for over a year and not one single person could plausibly explain "Leafs" to me, and more than one wished they'd change it "because it makes Canadians sound illiterate" (their words, not mine). It seems controversial, mysterious and notable enough to be worth documenting. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 22:38, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It has to do with the hockey clubs official name, the Bold textToronto Maple Leaf Hockey ClubBold text, and if you make it plural, it would be correctly spelled Leaves, however, it would not represent the Team's official name. SFrank85 00:08, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a good explanation. Here's something of a parallel: The early version of the Pittsburgh Pirates baseball club was called "Allegheny", because they played their games in the then-separate section of the city called by that name. They were referred to informally as the "Alleghenys". The normal plural of the word would, of course, be "Alleghenies". Wahkeenah 02:42, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, it's because Maple Leaf, when it refers to the team, is a proper noun and proper nouns don't follow the same pluralization rules as common nouns. If Joe Hartman gets together with his family, they are the Hartmans, not the Hartmen. And by the time the hockey team was renamed, the Maple Leafs name had been used in sports going back to the 1870s (I believe; not sure when it was first used), so there was also history behind it. --Walor 15:00, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that's another good example. And you might be referring to Toronto Maple Leafs (minor league baseball), which began in the 1800s. Everyone thinks of the hockey team now, but that nickname was "owned" by the ball club for several decades before the hockey club decided to use it (team nicknames were not trademarked in those days). Wahkeenah 18:34, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was going back to the Guelph Maple Leafs, which came even before the baseball Toronto Maple Leafs. --Walor 19:15, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe all those Leafs teams, collectively, are the Leaves. :) Wahkeenah 19:18, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Leafs vs. Leaves

message: Dryden, Hewitt, Poile? Don't think these guys belong. I'm seriously thinking of calling for the elimination of the HHOF sections of all 30 NHL teams. GoodDay 22:31, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: HHOF section

message: Does anyone have a list of the Arenas & St.Patricks captains? If so, could you add it to the article? GoodDay 20:23, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Arenas & St.Patricks captains

message: Put up a factual dispute due to the fact that most of the other NHL team pages list the date of league wide retirement as Feb. 6, 2000, whereas here it's listed as April 18, 1999 BT14 06:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the April 18, 1999 date: That date's when Gretzky retired, Feb 6, 2000 is when his number was retired. GoodDay 18:34, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gretzky Retirement

message: I removed the standings for the eighth and final playoff spot at the bottom of the "2006 to present" section. Wikipedia is not a news service, and we shouldn't be posting stuff like this. Thanks. Gujuguy 13:56, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 06-07 Playoff Race

message: Mats Sundin's stats under Leafs scoring leaders is incorrect. It needs to be updated and edited. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.96.36.20 (talk • contribs).
:Good catch! He was one goal light. I've updated it, and it agrees to the Mats Sundin article now. —C.Fred (talk) 00:17, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: incorrect stats

message: General request to folks watching this article: please backcheck anon IP edits in particular, even if it looks like they fixed a problem.  We just lost the 1917-27 history section for about a day and a half as a result of this -- an anon vandal replaced it with the usual garbage, then another anon came along a few hours later and deleted the trash, but didn't restore the deleted section.  The lead of the history section didn't make much sense as a result (it started with "Querrie lost a lawsuit to Livingstone and decided to put the St. Pats up for sale"), and that's something we need to catch.  Thanks. VT hawkeyetalk to me 17:59, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  General watch request 

message: In order to avoid a revert war, I will refrain from making changes.  However, do we know the jersey numbers Toskala and Bell will be wearing.  I put in a semi-protection request for the page, and I think it should be up until after the draft.  Ccrashh 18:56, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone edited out Aubin altogether. I've restored Aubin and removed Toskala's presumed jersey number. GoodDay 16:40, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He might be a -passing by- anon editor, but we'll have to keep an eye on 64.229.230.83. His edits are questionable (at best). GoodDay 17:05, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New players and Jersey numbers 

message: It says under Rivalries that Detroit will not meet the leafs in the 2007 - 2008 season for the first time since the original six era.
That's wrong because it will actually be the 2008 - 2009 season.
the leafs will still tour the Central division in the 2007 - 2008 NHL season. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Leafs877 (talk • contribs) 03:36, June 27, 2007
:If you can find a reference for it, then change it and reference it. BsroiaadnTalk 03:40, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Some rivalry, they hardly meet anymore. The same can be said for all NHL teams. You want Rivalries, look to the 'golden era' when (six-team league) teams met each other 14 times a season. GoodDay 17:24, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Detroit and Leafs

message: Given the historic importance of the Leafs in Canadian culture and in the NHL, this article should be featured. I recommend the following:
# Split off the history section into a new article to help keep this one under 40kb
# Start vigourously referencing the article
# Expand the lead
# Mention their status with the Habs as the Forever Rivals (or even create Forever Rivals)
# Semi-protect the page
Wafulz 12:55, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was looking at your split suggestion at first like "Wafulz must be crazy" but I looked the article over, and only about half of it (scrolling-wise) is actual history, the rest is the roster, season stats, retired numbers, and all that and realized it's probably a good idea. Though I think the name should be brought up at WP:HOCKEY to make sure we can agree on a name just in case we have to do this with other articles later on. I think History of the Toronto Maple Leafs is fine, but some may prefer Toronto Maple Leafs history or something. BsroiaadnTalk 13:30, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, there's already an article (well, it's only a section really) about the Leafs-Canadiens rivalry. See National Hockey League rivalries#Maple Leafs-Canadiens Rivalry. BsroiaadnTalk 13:35, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind about bringing the name up at WP:HOCKEY, it would go along with History of the New York Rangers. BsroiaadnTalk 13:59, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I think this is an excellent idea, however as the main article, this one should still contain an abbreviated look at the Leafs history.  Simply chopping out 90 years of history leaves a giant hole in this article. Resolute 21:09, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I've put it back in. We need to shorten it, but we can't just remove everything up til 2006. Also, why is it from 2006? Ideally it should be from 2005 (post-lockout).-Wafulz 13:42, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

text:  I agree that it is a good idea. There is a precedent with the Rangers. It probably could also be done for Toronto, Montreal, Chicago, Boston and Ottawa Alaney2k 18:01, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

text:  I have started editing the history part of this article, and took out the temporary notice. I suggest we work on shortening the history part here, and improving the History Of The article, as I see someone put the notice for need of references here. Alaney2k 20:42, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Recently, the article is having too much IP vandalism that clearly violate Wikipedia's neutral point of view policy. It should be semi-protected for at least two weeks, so that we can have the article to Featured level without worrying about having to revert vandalism, which would fill up the article's history. Johnny Au 01:52, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Getting this article to Featured level 

message: :Image:LeafsNation banner.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:LeafsNation banner.jpg

message: Another Original Six team, another article lacking a specific "Uniforms" section. There absolutely has to be one, especially since this is The Maple Leafs, and that they have one of the best and most popular uniforms around. The section should have photos and info. Also, the team mascot should be mentioned somewhere. As you might have seen, I've made these same comments about a lot of NHL team pages. If we can get most of these team articles to have the same structure I think it'll look better and be more unified. Team jerseys are important, right? The Devils article is obviously a foundation for the rest. Love each other, or perish. ~Auden 05:16, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: We went through this last season. and consensus was reached then that the scoring tables would only be updated at the end of each regular season. Has the hockey project reconsidered this, and/or is there a new consensus that says we should be changing this table constantly? —C.Fred (talk) 22:15, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sundin's stats 

message: If Alex Steen is Swedish, than Alexei Ponikarovsky, and maybe even Nik Antropov are Canadian. If we do it by place of birth, than Poni and Antropov are right, but Steen is wrong, and if we're doing it by citizenship, Nik Antropov and Alexei Ponikarovsky both became Canadian citizens last year, and at least Alexei Ponikarovsky has publicly stated that he'd prefer to play for Canada to the Ukraine, saying once he got his citizenship that he'd "like to try out for the Olympic team." If you need a link to prove this, then I'll find it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.245.89.152 (talk) 04:33, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We tend to go by what the player most identifies with.  As such, Steen is listed as a Swede, given the only roots he really has in Canada is that it is the place his dad played.  Much of his development was in Sweden, and he plays for Sweden internationally.  Robyn Regehr is a similar case.  Antropov and Ponikarovsky similarly continue to identify with their birth nations far more than their adopted nations.  Much in the same way that Wayne Gretzky is flagged with a Maple Leaf, despite having American citizenship, and currently living in the US. Resolute 05:38, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationalities 

message: Let me get this straight, the Leafs have no team President. Tannebaum basically represents the owners (Teachers Union) & Peddie runs the Leafs rink. If that make sense?, should we clarify this in the article? GoodDay (talk) 19:11, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Maple Leafs President

message: FERGUSON WAS FIRED TODAY!!
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story/?ID=227906&hubname=
WOO! CHANGE THAT GM TO FLETCHER SOMEONE!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.95.233.106 (talk) 16:47, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's 'interim GM' for Fletcher. GoodDay (talk) 22:03, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New GM 

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replies: text: Unlike the image below, I can't come up with a rationale for this one. —C.Fred (talk) 03:57, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:LeafCaptainSittler.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Mahovolich4Kelly8.jpg

message: It should probably be changed 142.68.87.127 (talk) 02:09, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series vs. Flyers- only 6 games, article says 7 in about 03-04 

message: I don't think Fan 590 (CJCL) broadcasts any Leafs games anymore.  Also, the media box should mention CBLT (CBC) 5 as a broadcaster due to HNIC.
129.100.179.222 (talk) 17:03, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: HNIC is a national network program, not sure if we list that in the infobox. Alaney2k (talk) 17:12, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the media sections typically include only local/regional broadcasters, not national. Resolute 17:15, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Media 

message: The article does very well in describing the history of the leafs and their name changes, but I think that a picture showing the evolution of the crest through these name changes would be a good edition.  The logos of the Arenas, St. Pats, and all Leaf logos I think should be shown.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.14.53.19 (talk) 19:52, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leafs Logo and History 

message: Shouldn't Nikolai Kulemin be added to the roster? They said he will be in a Leafs uniform for 2008-2009.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.223.155.40 (talk) 21:30, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't add players to the roster until the official page has them listed on the roster due to policies such as Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. -Djsasso (talk) 21:33, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kulemin 

message: I think we can drop the interim, since Peddie said he'll be staying as GM till his contract is up, so that's no longer interim and he's not listed as interim on http://mapleleafs.nhl.com/team/app/?service=page&page=NHLPage&id=12778  --Fire 55 (talk) 01:53, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fletcher 

message: Should'nt Steen have the Swedish flag instead of the canadian? He may have dual nationality, but he represents Sweden at international level.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.219.208.44 (talk) 11:42, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He should, and I'll change it.  This has been an ongoing debate.  Resolute 14:29, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alexander Steen 

message: Shouldn't the picture of the logo be of the white maple leaf, seeing as on their home jersey, it's the white leaf. We could put a blue background to make the contrast it needs to show up. 99.234.164.101 (talk) 00:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, since the blue leaf logo is just as valid a logo. I point out that the official site uses the blue leaf as the site's favicon and in the "next game" block—even though the next game is a home game. —C.Fred (talk) 01:11, 26 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Official logo's aren't necessarily the ones that are on the jersey's anyways. -Djsasso (talk) 20:25, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo 

message: The following names are wrongly spelt at least once in the article.
Jonas Frögren
Anton Strålman
Börje Salming
Could someone please respell them. I can't. I am not qualified  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.227.58.24 (talk) 21:22, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you be more specific? "Borje Salming" appears correctly in the article three times. WikiProject consensus is that diacritics are not used in hockey article text. —C.Fred (talk) 21:41, 11 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: More specifically, that diacritics are not used in North America specific articles, in line with standard English usage in North America.  They are displayed in international and European specific articles in keeping with European styles. Resolute 01:22, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names 

message: I don't think this comparison is necessary unless there's proof that Leafs Nation is based on Red Sox Nation. If we list this, we may as well list off all other fanbases with similar names ("Sens Army" comes to mind).-Wafulz (talk) 13:47, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean we need a reliable source that says "'Leafs Nation' is derived from 'Sox Nation'" or something like that. The HNIC article only has one such assertion (for Football Night in America).-Wafulz (talk) 13:59, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Sox Nation 

message: just a heads up on the main page that Burke is actually American and not Canadian.  This is the link on the Burke page to confirm that, http://www.hhof.com/html/exSCJ07_21.shtml - Kr3vin 16:38, 29 November 2008
:  Johnny Au (talk/contributions) 21:52, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Burke