Talk:Hakama

message: As a practitioner of kendo, I just want to add that the section saying hakama are rarely worn by women is quite misleading. There are thousands of girls wearing hakama in kendo practice every day throughout Japan and the rest of the world.
....Which still means that it's unusual for women to wear them.  Exploding Boy 02:24, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Women's hakama 

message: The current article states that the original purpose for the hakama was to hide foot work.  I think this is folk wisdom and has no basis.  I have heard this reason given in Aikido classes, but I have also read that when going into battle, the hakama was tied close to the legs to make sure that they are out of the way.  I don't have a citation either way, so I have left a  mark on the paragraph. Edwin Stearns | Talk 19:29, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Relating to the "original" purpose, I have also heard that they served much the same function as chaps. Since the Japanese didn't have leather, the thick material of the hakama protected samurai's legs while riding a horse. However, oddly enough, I can't seem to confirm this with the few sources at my desk. Anyone else heard of this, or have a citation to confirm it? LordAmeth 18:36, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hakama's original purpose 

message: We need a high quality picture of someone wearing both the male and female version of this article of clothing. See the picture in Furisode for an example.--Acewolf359 15:14, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: To make this article more informative, shouldn't something be put in regarding what kind of fabric was traditionally used, with a comparison to what is used now? While I don't know for sure, I would think that hakama were first developed before cotton was available in Japan. If this is the case, what were they made of before then? For that matter, when does the first evidence of hakama use appear? Zarakinthish 01:08, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fabric 

message: Dropped the evaluation down to Start since there are no inline references at all.  This is a major element that should be included for a B-class article.Peter Rehse 05:55, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Evaluation

message: Why do people in Thailand call their variety of men's traditional wrap-around clothing pakama? Isn't this oddly similar to the ancient pronunciation of Japanese hakama (<*pakama)? Ebizur (talk) 23:44, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Thai/Lao "Pakama"

message: "行灯" of "行灯袴" (undivided hakama) is pronounced as "andon", which is a jukujikun reading. The second word "hakama" becomes "bakama" by rendaku.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.80.15.131 (talk) 16:09, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Japanese pronunciation of undivided hakama 

message: Does anyone know if the word Kamishimo was borrowed from Portuguese Camisa for Shirt?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.180.8.34 (talk) 22:47, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kamishimo from Portuguese? 

message: I cleaned up the first paragraph, which, grammatically speaking, was a disgusting mess.  Nice first impression, right?  But one thing I couldn't even understand well enough to confidently clean up was the following:  "in jin nan dynasties hakama been used Chinese common".  I can guess at what this might mean, but I wasn't confident enough to make the change myself.  Perhaps it refers to the Chinese Dong Jin and Nan Bei dynasties which preceded the Sui and Tang ones, and common use of hakama in China in that period.  Although, I had thought that hakama were a specifically Japanese garment?  
I also deleted two nonsense comments on this page. 2601:441:8301:E676:A969:E309:1A49:F559 (talk) 15:12, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted scenes 

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message: The association of hakama with martial arts is a purely Western thing. 
During the 'classic' period kimono/obi/hakama were normal everyday clothes. So this is how people in martial arts of these period dressed. Clothes just for use in martial arts did not exist until the 20C. 
In Japan today, this outfit is formal attire. In is very common for formal outfits to be survivals of older types. But powdered wigs were not designed for judges, morning suits were not designed for weddings. And hakama were not made for martial arts. There is no basis for ideas about hiding footwork or the seven ideas of budo.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.150.177.249 (talk) 08:56, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This article doesn't mention "hiding footwork" or the seven ideas of budo. And they  worn as part of uniform. Just because they didn't originate specifically as part of it, doesn't mean it's wrong to make that connection.--Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) ( me!) 11:26, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sorry but this is all nonsense