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message: Hi Jim, the section seems to be adequately cited to me and to be in enough depth for FAC purposes. Suggestions or thoughts include:
*"The reservoir was also referred to as "Colchester Lake"." I am not convinced of the relevance of this and personally would delete it, adding the two cites to the first sentence. 
*"The reservoir was intended to simulate the Eder Dam in Germany,[13][12] which was attacked after the Möhne Dam had been breached." I don't like the break in the chronology: Used for training, then fast forward to the attack, then back to the details of the training. I would delete "which was attacked after the Möhne Dam had been breached" and add a bit on the attacks to the end; I would be happy to draft and source something. 
*"The Layer Causeway, from which the photograph was taken, was used as a substitute for the Eder Dam." Rephrase to remove mention of the Layer Causeway - which perhaps needs doing anyway given that "the photograph" seems to be missing - and this is easily cited. Eg 'Abberton Reservoir was a similar of a similar configuration to the Eder reservoir, one of the three targets of the Dambusters' raid.'[IWM website]
*"The last practice flight to Abberton was a full dress rehearsal of the attack and took place on the night of May 14, 1943" is covered by Holland, pp. 267-268.
*"The site has a visitor centre on Church Road in Layer-de-la-Haye." I am not sure why this is in the WWII section.
That do you? Let me know if you would like me to simply rewrite and source the entire section for you. Gog the Mild (talk) 15:18, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: *I queried it because there are a couple of "citation" needed tags, the Holland ref has no page number and the link goes nowhere, and Bowman has a link but no page number. I haven't actually made an edit to it yet, but I've just acquired a good source for the wildlife aspects, which has inspired me to work it up. I agree the visitor centre shouldn't be there, and I've never heard it referred to as Colchester Lake anyway. Thanks for your pointers Jimfbleak - talk to me? 16:18, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  WWII section 

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Lead
*  - only in lead and needs source. (I notice that the figures in List of reservoirs in England and Wales by volume are for before the upgrade.)
History
*  constructed...constructed?
*  I find this ambiguous - is the water pumped to the south or is the river Stour to the south? Water was pumped from Stratford St Mary which is around 14 km northeast of the reservoir.
*  This is correct but I found it misleading. It wasn't just the pipes that were changed, the new link from the Stour follows a very different route and begins at Wormingford, well upstream from the original abstraction point at Stratford St Mary. There is a map here
Birds
I don't have a subscription to British Birds and thus cannot verify the content.
*  This whole section sometimes uses the singular and sometimes the plural for bird species. This sometimes jars slightly.
*  singular then plural? perhaps shovelers?
*  "such as the corn bunting"?
*  ??
*  Who has operated a ringing scheme? Who or what is meant by Abberton here? Perhaps "A ringing scheme has operated at Abberton ..."?
*  I would repeat "years" each time.
I'm busy for the rest of today. I'll have another look tomorrow. - Aa77zz (talk) 10:08, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Aa77zz many thanks, I've read this so many times I just miss the same things every time, I'll go through in detail soon, and I've found a bit to add about signal crayfish. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 12:52, 19 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: A possible source: Abberton Pipelines Project installation of 32km of pipeline to support the Abberton Scheme - Aa77zz (talk) 09:52, 20 May 2021 (UTC)

text: Aa77zz, yes you're right, I guess given my main interest, I'm not seeing the water for the birds as it were. I'll work on that over the weekend. The existing non-technical statement ref talks about drought and the demands made on the reservoir in average and dry years. Jimfbleak - talk to me? 15:25, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Aa77zz, I've expanded the water supply section of the article and said a bit more about the Ouse link. I think I've addressed the other issues except that Hanningfield is now mentioned in the text rather than an EL Jimfbleak - talk to me? 10:55, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Informal review 

message: Shouldn't 'current maximum [total] area' be 600 ha, (= Main section, 535 ha + Central section 49 ha + Western section 16 ha)? Could someone with more time than me check the sources? Thankyou - Yadsalohcin (talk) 21:59, 5 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion: current maximum area