Talk:Huangshan

message: The amount of labor employed to install all of the stone trails is incredible, certainly along the lines of building the great pyramids in Egypt.  Information regarding this amazing feat of human engineering and labor should be included in this article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.108.124.140 (talk) 07:35, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Construction of Trails 

message: This title is a misnomer.  Shan means mountain so Mount Huangshan means Mount Mount Huang.  This should be either changed to Mount Huang or Huangshan. Mandel 14:07, Mar 2, 2005 (UTC)
: I think you have a good point here and I have moved the article to "Huang shan (Mountain range)" to distinguish it from "Huang shan (city)", which is already on the Huangshan disambiguation page. rm 19:30, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Huangshan is the mountain, Huangshan Shi or Huangshan City is a recent creation that was named after the mountain. So I would suggest titling them as such and putting a link at the top of the respective pages for anyone that stumbles onto the wrong one. Mutt (talk) 05:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming 

message: In the other articles about Chinese mountains, like Mount Tai, Mount Hua, Mount Heng, Mount Song, Mount Putuo, etc., the name "Shan" is always treated as "Mount".  For that reason, I propose that the article name be change to "Mount Huang" (with all the proper redirects for "Yellow Mountain", "Mount Yellow", and "Huangshan").  What do y'all think?LedRush (talk) 14:30, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree (belatedly) with this move; "Mount Huang" sounds awkward to me since I learned it first as Huangshan, but it is the most consistent naming scheme for Wikipedia, and it's better for most readers (i.e. non-Chinese-speakers).  —Politizer( talk • contribs ) 15:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Based on what I heard, I disagree. I asked about Huangshan from a native hotel clerk in Huangshan city (Tunxi), and he assured me that Chinese people don't think "Yellow Mountain" when they see "Huangshan", they just see it as a single word name. Also UNESCO and others seem to use "Mount Huangshan". I wouldn't use "Mount Huang" unless someone native would support that, as using different (and based on above, wrong) name is confusing, especially for non-Chinese-speakers who can't translate shan into mountain. Jesh (talk) 20:54, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Naming Questions 

message: The Image gallery in the article is pretty big (granted, I have been adding to it, but it was big even before I came along).  Is it possible to create a corresponding gallery of these images at Commons (there is already a linked Commons page, but the images it has are very different) linked from this article, and then not have such a big gallery here?  Also, of course, as the article grows, more images can be worked into the main body of the article (I'm about to try squeezine some in right now).
An alternate solution would be to put the image gallery within a  template, so that it is still in the article but not so in-your-face.  I don't know what the standard is, though, on using  in articles.  —Politizer( talk • contribs ) 15:59, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: The latest source I added to the article seems to be very good, and I think we can use it to make some nice expansions to the article.  Here is the source:
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(The ref is named "UNEP", if you want to cite stuff inline).
It seems much more credible than most of the sources in the article now, and its status as a review of material makes it more desirable and NPOV than primary sources.  Of course, we don't want to base the whole article off of one source, but I do think it's ok to lean more heavily on this source than the others, at least until we've found some other comparably good sources.  —Politizer( talk • contribs ) 19:34, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good source 

message: I added a new section on what Huangshan is significant for in terms of what people do with it; I am drawing a blank on what to call it (I know there's a good term, I have just gone braindead right now) so I tentatively called it "Uses."  That is a pretty lame section title, so if you think of a better title before I do you are more than welcome to change it (in fact, I urge you to change it!).  —Politizer( talk • contribs ) 20:06, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New section in article 

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