Talk:Al Gore/Archive 1

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Chris isn't just POVing this article shamelessly, he's also deleting the interwiki links and the table formatting.  RickK 05:37, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are you kidding me 

message: Indeed.  This article is a shambles.  I'd suggest looking at a [reputable entry in an encyclopedia|entry in a reputable encyclopedia] before continuing the consistent blather that has become this article's edit history.  We're capable of doing this in an NPOV manner, and it would be nice if we could do so before my grandson's elected president. ;) - Hephaestos 06:05, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of this article used to contain the text at Gore Personal and Political Controversies. In my opinion, that article is a complete POV waste (maybe 10% salvageable). It has been listed on vfd and should be deleted. Therefore, reverting to the pre-Chris version is not fine. I've tried to trim some of his POV text. What is needed now? --Jiang 06:16, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)

text: It should be noted that you wrote that page http://www.internet-encyclopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Al_Gore&action=history. Maximus Rex 07:18, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: "Stop reverting, I'm not done"

message: Following his election loss, Gore accepted visiting professorships at Columbia University's Graduate School of Journalism and Middle Tennessee State University. In 2002, Al Gore accepted a consulting job with a Los Angeles law firm and become an adviser to Google. Following the November 5, 2002 midterm elections Gore re-emerged into the public eye with a 14-city book tour and a well-orchestrated "full Gore" media blitz which included a pair of policy speeches. On September 23rd, Gore delivered a speech on the impending War with Iraq and the War on Terrorism that generated a fair amount of commentary. Less than two weeks later, on October 2, he made a speech on Bush's handling of the economy to the Brookings Institution. Also, during this time period Gore guest starred on several programs such as the David Letterman Show and Saturday Night Live appearing much more relaxed and funnier as a private citizen than he did while holding public office. Gore ended his media blitz on December, 15th 2002  when he announced that he would not seek his party's nomination. (See 2004 election for more)
The following year Gore joined the board of directors of Apple Computer. He also made the news around this time when it was reported that he was looking to buy the Vivendi Cable Network to start a news station that would have a combination of CNN and MTV and would try to reach to young viewers. However, till this point in time, no deal has been struck between the Gore led group and Vivendi.  Gore also assumed an elder statesman like role in the Democratic Party when he challenged the Bush Administration on issues such as The War with Iraq, civil liberties, and terrorism.
Again, I don't see where you two say that is biased towards anyone. -ChrisDJackson
The Iraq War and Operation Desert Fox are under different cirumstances. Desert Fox was not a full-fledged invasion and had UN backing and support. Therefore, it's not entirely illogicial for him to support one but not the other. If there's irony, the irony must be explcicit, but I dont see it.
The last sentence of your second paragraph can be avoided because it is basically a summary of your first paragraph, which is a listing of all the major speeches he made. Just find the first link for "2003 invasion of Iraq" to see what I'm talking about. There's no need to mention things twice.
And please sign your posts. --Jiang 07:35, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Private citizen

message: Following his election loss, Gore accepted visiting professorships at Columbia University's Graduate School of Journalism and Middle Tennessee State University. In 2002, Al Gore accepted a consulting job with a Los Angeles law firm and become an adviser to Google. Following the November 5, 2002 midterm elections Gore re-emerged into the public eye with a 14-city book tour and a well-orchestrated "full Gore" media blitz which included a pair of policy speeches. On September 23rd, Gore delivered a speech on the impending War with Iraq and the War on Terrorism that generated a fair amount of commentary. Less than two weeks later, on October 2, he made a speech on Bush's handling of the economy to the Brookings Institution. Also, during this time period Gore guest starred on several programs such as the David Letterman Show and Saturday Night Live appearing much more relaxed and funnier as a private citizen than he did while holding public office.
The following year Gore joined the board of directors of Apple Computer. He also made the news around this time when it was reported that he was looking to buy the Vivendi Cable Network to start a news station that would have a combination of CNN and MTV and would try to reach to young viewers. However, till this point in time, no deal has been struck between the Gore led group and Vivendi.  Gore also assumed an elder statesman like role in the Democratic Party when he denounced the Bush Administration on issues such as the Occupation of Iraq, USA Patriot Act, and the environment.
How is that?
Also, I like the rest of the page.  You just need to include the above; IMHO.
Thanks, ChrisDJackson
Again, Gore also assumed an elder statesman like role portrays him as something not all people share. Wikipedia:Avoid peacock terms --Jiang 10:13, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Private citizen

message: The page in question has been reintegrated into this article, the WP:VfD discussion is below:
*Gore Personal and Political Controversies.  Besides an ill-advised title, hopelessly POV.  RickK 04:18, 1 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old VfD discussion