Talk:Denarius

message: We need at least a brief article on as (currency) or something like it; the current article on as that this one links to goes to several different topics, none of which seem remotely related. Wesley 20:22, 29 Jul 2003 (UTC)

message: dinar COMES FROM THE GREEK WORD DINARION wich means something like GIVE-
text -Monetary unit. Dinar is derived from the Greek "dinarion" and the Latin "denarius." During the early Islamic period, it was a type of gold coin. Currently it serves as the currency  Jordan, Kuwait, Libya, Tunisia, and parts of the former Yugoslavia
LINK: http://www.answers.com/topic/dinar  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.180.56.140 (talk) 22:26, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: WORD MEANING

message: What's the size of these coins? Furthermore, why do they look deformed? Were they that irregular shape when minted? --euyyn 21:27, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The coins went on weight as indicated, the size and shape wasnt that important. They would have been made by hand, so the shapes would be different. Enlil Ninlil 09:36, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the size could be not important, but they surely had a size! Say... as a hand? As a present day coin? Smaller? What about the irregularities? Were them originally irregular or were them deformed due to some squashing? --euyyn 23:33, 27 July 2006 (UTC)

text: There is no one answer, for some when they were stamped they would have been deformed as sometimes the dies were not properly place on the metal flan, but they would have made them as round as possible, others maybe squashed. And weight is not that consistant, they were reoughly 4.5 grams but may vary between 3.9-4.7 depending on coin. Enlil Ninlil 05:34, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I saw some in an exposition a few months ago and had the impression they were quite small, something about half and euro coin (they were visible only through a lens, so I couldn't have an exact measure). Is it right? --euyyn 01:03, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Each edition varies in size and technique in production. Some were struck roughshod in remote areas to pay the armies and debts in the provinces. A great many denarius were struck by the most advanced means available in the Roman Empire of the respected tim. In my own personal collection, I have Early Roman Republic silver denarius roughly 15mm and Late Roman Empire denarius as large as 23mm (heavily debased with other metals other than silver). Scribeofargos (talk) 21:42, 16 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  coin size 

message: I read or heard that it represented a day's wage. 74.195.25.78 (talk) 02:30, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is an over simplification. The Denarius was the principal silver coin among the Romans and was originally equal to ten asses before the long period of devaluation. It's assumed that the first Denarius were struck to simplify military payments and foreign compensation, ( 1 coin vs 10 coins to be carried on campaigns as pay for soldiers, plus silver was a more desirable metal in foreign countries ), but even in the days of the Early Roman Republic, different types of soldiers received different compensation (Pay Grades). Scribeofargos (talk) 00:20, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: What did the Denarius represent?

message: "the Slovenian word denar and the Catalan word diner all meaning money, are also derived from Latin "denarius". The currency unit in the Republic of Macedonia, the denar, is closest in name to the Latin denarius."
So, they are spelled the same, I'm betting they are pronounced the same, so, tell me, how can the Macedonian version be closer? MihaS (talk) 15:27, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Closer, because the official money in Macedonia are called Denari (denarius> plural:Denarii) --MacedonianBoy (talk) 23:25, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Virtually the same

message: I read: "The word "Denarius" is derived from the Greek word: δηνάριον (meaning "to give")"..."
This is meaningless: δηνάριον is coming from the Latin denarius. BTW in Greek to give is διδομι and the root is –δο– , nothing to do with the Latin deni ("in number of ten") which has the same root of en. "ten" and ger. "zehn".
Denarius is a Latin term indicating the tenth of a series, and in this case mean 10 asses, the original value of this coin, as indicated from the X which is in the first issues.
--Carlo Morino aka zi' Carlo 14:02, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

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message: I know the whole effort is a bit futile but I've been trying to reconcile some sources. The article previously read:
This was originally "$28" until changed by an editor who considered it a miscalculation. The source which is cited estimates $20 during the Roman republic and at the time of Caesar (d. 44 BC). I get the impression that there may have been another source which hasn't been given.
Meanwhile, some New Testament-oriented sources say it's "sixteen or seventeen cents", which I as far as I can tell was calculated in the early 19th century at the latest.The oldest actual source I can find is from 1853:  17 cents from 1800 is apparently about $3.24 in 2016.
The events of the New Testament (~4 BC–33 AD; potentially written 70 AD or later) are mostly post-Augustus (d. 14 AD) and apparently "From the time of Augustus [the value of the denarius] decreased as its weight was diminished by the use of bronze. In time it was valued at only one-eighth of its original value, in effect a useless bronze monetary unit." So I was thinking the estimates could be roughly consistent, depending on how fast it was devalued, and I should change the unsourced estimate of $2.80 in pre-Augustan times back to $20.
However, one of the Bible-y sources references the denarius changing from 10 to 16 asses which happened in 141 BC, and says the 17 cents estimate is of the denarius before this change. However, since it's kind of old and I don't know where the estimate originally comes from anyway I've decided to just ignore it until someone comes up with a better idea. ─ ReconditeRodent « talk · contribs » 13:45, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Value in Modern Terms 

message: The article might be improved by using the Latin plural assēs, rather than asses, to avoid confusion. See As (Roman coin). (— 𝐬𝐝𝐒𝐝𝐬 — - talk) 09:54, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plural of 'As'