Talk:Galaxy Song

message: Removed "All this should not reflect negatively on Idle; it is presented merely to set the quantities mentioned in the song into their factual context. Ultimately, to criticize this piece of light-hearted humour - which makes no claim to be an authoritative cosmological statement - over its numbers would seem to be obsessional nitpicking." as it seems to be a personal statement about why facts are listed rather than an actual factoid. --Nathan Murray. 2 August 2007
You cannot just copy the full lyrics of copyrighted songs onto wikipedia. Justinc 12:59, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inappropriate material 

message: I would have also liked to know a little more of the sketch, for example in what context Eric Idle pops into the sketch and sings the song. Anyone know? --Mithcoriel
: There's no real context. When John Cleese's character wants to convince Terry Jones' character to give up her liver in the Live Organ Transplants sequence, he produces Eric Idle from a refrigerator who begins singing the song while he and Jones walk through a field of stars. 82.95.254.30 21:15, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Context 

message: *The light from the other stars form a tiny proportion of the energy available to us on Earth.
*Some of wind power stems from the rotation of the Earth. Did that energy come from the sun?
I'm no scientist. Any thoughts? --Billpg 21:18, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wind power comes from the sun, as it's mostly driven by convection, but geothermal power and tidal power don't come from the sun (geothermal comes from radioactive decay within the earth's core, and tidal comes from the rotation of the earth relative to both the earth-moon and earth-sun systems). Nuclear power produced on earth also doesn't come from the sun. The vast majority of power produced (hydroelectric and fossil fuel based) comes from the sun, though. --Christopher Thomas 15:41, 25 February 2006 (UTC)

text: It may be a minute and insignificant source, but starlight falls onto plants and perform photosynthesis with the energy, so it remain a power source. --Billpg 23:42, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "A sun that is the source of all our power" 

message: I agree that the lyrics probabaly shouldn't be put on wikipedia, as a link would probabaly suffice, but besides that, it shouldn't come after the external links.--Artega 19:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:Copyrights.  Whether the lyrics are culturally significant is not the point, they are still copyrighted.  We can quote bits of them for the purposes of critical commentary (e.g. the dispute over accuracy in this case), and discussing the historical and cultural context of the song itself, but simply copying and pasting the entire set of words is not justified.  Linking to the complete lyrics hosted on a third-party server should be OK, but that's it.  leevclarke (talk) 03:01, 18 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Song Lyrics

message: I removed the link to the MP3, 'cause it certainly doesn't fall under fair use. 82.95.254.30 21:15, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  MP3 

message: Some help from UK folks would be appreciated to clarify this. My understanding is that the term bugger here means idiots, a-holes etc...Urbandictionary confirms this general meaning with the entries, "That bugger stole my Holden! (used to refer to a person in a derogatory manner.)
I decided to let the bugger enjoy it. (used in reference to a friend or someone you feel sorry for.)"
As far as the intended meaning, the intend of the last line, based on the entire song's context, seems to be, "pray for intelligent life Out There because down here on Earth it's all just idiots" And if that's the intended meaning, shouldn't the last line be something closer to, "...'cause they're buggers all [they are all idiots/jerks] down here on earth"?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.118.49.24 (talk) 02:00, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Erm, no, "bugger all" means very little or nothing. --Closedmouth (talk) 08:12, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Yer, those guys need to relise that we have different meanings here in the UK for certain phrases, and Monty Python is English afterall.194.81.189.20 (talk) 11:41, 18 December 2008 (UTC)

text: I disagree, clarifying odd slang is indeed helpful.JascalX (talk) 04:51, 20 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  'cause there's bugger all down here on Earth! 

message: If anyone is concerned about the validity of the message from Eric himself in response to the 6 or 16 thousand light years thick question given in this reference: http://pythonline.com/blogs/johnalexwood/6_or_16_thousand_light_years_thick the comment is from Jeanna, the Pythonline administrator who pasted an excerpt of an e-mail she received from Eric into the comment on that page. Johnalexwood (talk) 16:50, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 6 or 16 thousand light years thick, validity of message from Eric Idle himself

message: Controversy or not, the Google citations aren't entirely accurate.  If you search for the respective terms using quotes (either around the entire term or isolating "Monty Python" and "[x] Song", "Galaxy" wins out hands down (217k to 126k for fully quoted, 18k to 3k for isolated quoting).  It's only when you search for the terms unquoted that "Universe" wins out. Kendel (talk) 01:00, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thus far, there is no reliable source that there actually is a controversy or widesprea confusion about the song title. That the song title is "inaccurate" is POV and that Conan and Idle "perpetuated" an error is factually wrong. If anyone, it is the writer who decides what the real title is. Hence I move the following here:
 Perhaps the most inaccurate detail of "The Galaxy Song" is the name itself. While the first verse indeed describes our galaxy, the 
 last two lines depart greatly from it: "And our galaxy is only one of millions of billions/In this amazing and expanding universe."  
 The rest of the song describes the universe itself, far beyond the scope of our galaxy. 
 On NPR's Talk of the Nation, host Neal Conan and guest Eric Idle perpetuated the inaccurate title, hastily correcting an 
 email from an astute fan: 
 CONAN: This email from Katherine in Chico, California. I've been an avid Python fan since I was 13 and thrilled to see "Not the 
 Messiah (He's a Very Naughty Boy)" at the Hollywood Bowl almost a year ago. I particularly liked Mr. Idle's Bob Dylan impression 
 as well as the finale of "The Universe Song." It was really spectacular.
 Mr. IDLE: Well, thanks. I do appear as Bob Dylan at one point...
 CONAN: ...And in that production, the finale or the encore was "The Universe Song" "The Galaxy Song," rather...
 Mr. IDLE: At the Hollywood Bowl we were asked if we would put it up with fireworks. And we said, yes, we'd tolerate fireworks. And so 
 John Du Prez wrote some fireworks music, part of "The Galaxy Song." And I think it's the first fireworks music written 
 since Handel. So it was just - it was spectacular.< ref>< /ref>
 Meanwhile, the official Monty Python YouTube channel hosts the song under the name "Galaxy Song".
 < ref></ref>
Str1977 (talk) 09:01, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy over the name 

message: Maybe I missed it but the article doesn't inform who wrote the song. Airproofing (talk) 04:37, 25 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Author 

message: Some of the stars that we can see are from other galaxies outside the Milky Way. Does anyone have a good reference for this?  120.19.157.209 (talk) 11:32, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: If you mean "seen as separate dots", then no. If you ask whether we see other galaxies at all, then yes - a few (Andromeda, Large and Small Magellanic Clouds). See e.g. the answers here. --User:Haraldmmueller 09:22, 6 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another inaccuracy 

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