Talk:Tom Sayers

message: Thomas Sayers: References
I am working on a book (to be published next year) on the Sayers-Heenan prize fight of 1860. I may have something to contribute to this article, but do not feel qualified to do so without being able to follow up the References to Thomas Sayers, which presently lead nowhere.
In particular, I am interested in Sayers's life up to 1849, on which I have found a great deal of contradictory information.
Iain07 14:30, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Hi I am Tom Sayers great great great grandson and do have quite alot of info and picture about Tom Sayers.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.196.250.237 (talk) 13:14, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thomas Sayers is my great uncle... 

message: Thomas Sayers →  — Sayers was always known as "Tom", never as "Thomas". (At least two other bare-knuckle fighters, namely Cribb and Spring, both appear, I think rightly, as "Tom".) While I'm at it, I notice that in the category "English boxers", Sayers is misplaced under "T" instead of "S". I'm not sure how to fix this. Iain07 (talk) 15:39, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done  Giacomo  15:46, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *God, that was quick! 87.80.32.97 (talk) 15:55, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a DEFAULTSORT so that all of the categories will be sorted under "S". Racepacket (talk) 13:24, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: I just have a few bits of tidying up that I'd like to do here, and was considering adding an info box. I'm wondering why there is a request not to do this. Iain07 (talk) 13:49, 15 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: .......because an info box is totally unecessary. All the relevant information should be readily availabe in the lead paragraph. Info boxes are unsightly and reduce the lead image to postage stamps.  Giacomo  14:20, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: with the rise of wikidata, and scraping of infoboxes by open data people, they are increasingly necessary. 198.24.31.118 (talk) 20:15, 2 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info box 

message: Many sources, including the John C. Heenan Wikipedia page, reference the final action of Heenan during the big fight: "The defining moment came when Heenan almost strangled Sayers by forcing his head down over the top rope." or "Forty-two rounds later, Heenan pressed Sayers into the ropes, using the cords to choke the champ. As Sayers turned blue, the crowd cut the ropes and stormed the ring." http://listverse.com/2014/08/11/10-wildly-eccentric-characters-from-victorian-england
Shouldn't this be included on Sayers' page as well? Joel.sbateman (talk) 19:19, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about the strangling? 

message: I am in the process of reverting all of SQMeaner's edits. Two of them have not come out properly, while the others show blatant pro-British and anti-American bias.
Iain07 (talk) 13:05, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said in the other thread, be prepared to have them reverted, as I personally found the pages in their previous state ridiculously pro-Heenan.19:12, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Since SQMeaner and I profoundly disagree on this point, I asked to have the page given protected status, so that edits which I believe to lack the objectivity expected of any encyclopedia would not stand. However, this was refused, and SQMeaner has just reverted my latest edit. I am not prepared to go on fighting about it, but I stand by my opinion, which is based on an intensive study of every published report of the fight, and of the subsequent controversy. Iain07 (talk) 18:31, 23 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverting recent edits