Talk:Baron de Longueuil

message: Will the user who insists the barons de Longueuil are French kindly accept that there is no authority to resolve disputes about French titles, let alone anonymous users of Wikipedia, and that the 'Disputed succession' section on the baron de Longueuil article is the most generous way of accommodating his claims in a neutral fashion?GSTQ 04:15, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The source being asked for is a citation to those people making the claim, not for the document they are interpreting in order to make it. - Nunh-huh 10:48, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, that's what you're being asked for. A citation to a reference that interprets things in the way you want to add to the article. - Nunh-huh 12:58, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, we know that's what you want to say. The question is, does anyone say that that we can quote. Your opinion doesns't matter; the opinion of an expert, in print, might. - Nunh-huh 15:52, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

text: As I pointed out elsewhere, fixing syntax confirms only that the syntax was previously bad. In the meantime, we await a citable source for the purported dispute and the alternate "claimants". - Nunh-huh 09:40, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: French barons

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message: D.A.V.I.D. hasn't responded yet to a message I left on his talk page to explain his edits. I believe the matters being raised by his edits were dealt with above some time ago. As far as sourcing of this article is concerned, I think the article as it now stands is pretty O.K., except that "The Canadian recognition of the title is based on this act" looks POV to me, and I'll get rid of it shortly. The only other unsourced bits are the fact that the title is the only French colonial title recognized by the Queen of Canada, and the list of barons. Both seem pretty uncontroversial although citations would be good.GSTQ (talk) 05:40, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with GSTQ that the article needs to be swept clean of any assertions that are unsourced. The following quotation may be useful:
"The title of Baron de Longueüil of Longueüil, in the province of Quebec, in Canada, was granted (at the time when Canada formed part of the Dominion of France) by letters patent of Louis XIV, King of France, dated 26 January 1700, to Charles le Moyne, a distinguished military commander, the estate of Longueüil being erected into a Barony, with remainder to the heirs (male or female) of his body." Note (a): "This dignity...was undoubtedly a French dignity at its creation in 1700. By the treaty of Paris, however, 10 February 1763 (after the conquest of Quebec by the English in 1759), all rights and privileges 'of what kind soever' were reserved to all of French descent who were entitled thereto under the former (i.e. the French) government."  Note (b): "This appears to be the only Canadian hereditary title existing; its holder, though a Dominion peer, has not, apparently, any precedence in right of his unique position."  Cokayne, George Edward, The Complete Peerage of England, Scotland, Ireland, Great Britain and the United Kingdom, Extant, Extinct or Dormant, A. Sutton, Gloucester, 1982. [orig. 13 volumes, published by The St. Catherine Press Ltd, London, England from 1910-1959; reprinted in microprint: 13 vol. in 6, Gloucester:  A. Sutton, 1982], volume VIII,  pp. 126-7. - Nunh-huh 05:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
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