Talk:List of winners and nominated authors of the Booker Prize

message: This list is incomplete:
- 1969 is missing "The Public Image" by Muriel Spark and "From Scenes Like These" by G.M. Williams (Gordon Williams)
- The actual 1970 award (won by "The Elected Member" by Bernice Rubens) isn't included at all.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.11.236 (talk) 15:39, 4 July 2016 (UTC)
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The specific article 2020 Booker Prize is quite noticeably redlink heavy. Very redlink heavy. I am aware that the novels are not quite that well known, given there are so many debuts, and we have to be careful about notability and importance....though all the same, what steps could we take as a community to create the articles as soon as possible? doktorb wordsdeeds 21:01, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  2020 Booker Prize and redlinks 

message: Each year, thirteen books are selected and announced as the "longlist". From these, six are drawn to make the "shortlist" and from those is drawn the winner. This "longlist" is what in any other context would be called a "shortlist" and is just named as such to avoid confusion with the list of six. It's not a list of all the hundreds of eligible novels published that year, but a short list of outstanding novels that have been chosen for judging. The longlist announcement is more significant for the publishing industry than the shortlist, and attracts a lot of media coverage and discussion; here are some examples and it's easy to find many more. 
Wikipedia articles about novels often mention their being longlisted because, as you can see, this is often a driver of third-party coverage. When third-party coverage mentions an author as "being nominated for the Booker four times" they are usually including both longlist and shortlist nominations (apart from a few recent examples where journalists are possibly doing their research from this Wikipedia list).
So I disagree strongly with a recent edit summary that claimed the longlist "is not useful and makes the article unnecessarily bloated". It's as useful as the shortlist information and adding the longlist would not result in an especially large article. I'm happy to add the full list of nominations with sources — I'm just now adding it to Wikidata — but I want to do so on the understanding that it's not reverted and that other editors understand that the longlist is in the proper scope of this article.
Given that the distinction between shortlist and longlist is less important than between longlist and not-nominated, I would support a change in title for this article to "List of winners and nominated authors of the Booker Prize".
 MartinPoulter (talk) 14:52, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  We need to include the "longlist" nominations (which are actually a shortlist) 

message: Now that the Booker prize winners and nominees are in Wikidata, a couple of Wikidata queries can be used as checks on the content of this article. This query finds authors with multiple wins, and it agrees with the list given in this article, except that Wikidata gives the years of each win. This query finds authors with multiple nominations, and it shows that the relevant section in this article is out of date: Salman Rushdie has had seven nominations, not five, Beryl Bainbridge and J. M. Coetzee have six each, and so on. Maybe these numbers are due to someone restricting "nomination" to shortlisting, which I argue in the sections above is misleading and confusing. If the Booker Prize Foundation listing says someone has been nominated six times, we should represent them as being nominated six times. MartinPoulter (talk) 15:47, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikidata queries