Talk:Bicycle touring

message: Why does this article have no external links? Certainly some are needed?
Please could we have some discussion and agreement on what would be considered appropriate? By having no links and reading the encounter below about crazy guy on a bike is dominating this article and doing its best to ensure this article does not grow in the manner that it needs to.
If you wish to quote chapter and verse about what the rules and regulations about what is proper and what isn't then please link to the appropriate rule and be patient with me while I try to understand.
There are plenty of known and respected cyclists who blog on crazy guy on a bike and not including it seems very short sighted. I am also surprised there is no mention of Dervla Murphy, this seems to be have been deleted before.  Not even Thomas Stevens? Are some office chair warriors getting a little carried away with bullying people here? Janne Corax? the guy even has his own wikipedia entry http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janne_Corax.
I don't wish to embark on a full edit war but I would appreciate some help on getting this article on track. If you really have nothing better to do than quote chapter and verse about the rules and regulations of Wikipedia in regards to this issue then might I suggest you stay clear and let people who have knowledge of the subject do some editing rather than scaring them away and browbeating them with subclauses.
I have restored the link to crazyguyonabike to try and get the attention of those that have the greatest problem with it. Please do the right thing and discuss what is needed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.64.19.27 (talk) 02:14, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: I think a few more things should be included,
*like the bob bicycle trailer,
: - added a couple of sentences with link to bicycle trailer -AndrewDressel 05:15, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  could use some work 

message: This link (http://www.angusadventures.com/cycling/index.html) has twice been removed.  This brand-new website is dedicated to long-distance cycling and is completely devoid of spam and advertising. It is a comprehensive, professional, and easy to navigate resource. For anyone who wishes to remove it again, please look carefully at the site and explain why it should not be included as a resource.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.66.194.188 (talk • contribs) 12:41, 27 February 2007.
:From WP:EL: You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, even if the guidelines otherwise imply that it should be linked. 
:In Wikipedia, the burden of evidence lies with the editor wishing to add or retain the material (ref. Wikipedia polices such as WP:A and WP:RS). 
:70.66.194.188, I wish you would have held off reverting until after achieving concensus on the addition of your link. I won't undo it to avoid a war, but I would consider it a show of faith if you would undo it yourself. --Wiley 04:19, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cycle Touring Handbook 

message: Greetings all.
The purpose of this comment is to garner comment on why some travelogues and external links to sites dedicated to a particular topic, in this case - cycle touring, are rejected, and others of the same nature are allowed.
Why for instance are the following not allowed?
* Tim & Cindy Travis and Mike Vermeulen or even my own Andrew & Joanne Hooker allowed as external links?
In addition, why can those listed above not have their names listed in the travelogue section alongside sites such as Thomas Stevens, Ken Kifer, Dervla Murphy, Josie Dew, Heinz Stücke, Alastair Humphreys and Janne Corax? I have tried and each time it has been removed.
Who defines how many sites can be listed and why shouldn't all proper, dedicated, informative, topical and current sites be allowed? After all, they are, to my knowledge proper, dedicated, informative; topical; factual; comprehensive and detailed - all teh things Wikipedia wants.
Wikipedia:External links lists travelogues under point 11 of Normally to be avoided articles yet some are allowed and others not. Surly this is discrimative. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Where2pedalto (talk • contribs) 23:54, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: From WP:EL: You should avoid linking to a website that you own, maintain or represent, even if the guidelines otherwise imply that it should be linked. --Wiley 04:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

text: From User:Where2pedalto So why shouldn't anyone link to their site if it is implied that one is allowed to? Perhaps it would be better if the practice was banned from the start, that way it leaves no doubt in anyone's mind. This does not however answer my original questions as posted above. -- User:Where2pedalto
Maybe a list of cycling clubs?--Cribitus 11:28, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cycle Touring Sites - External Links and Travelogues 

message: I have an idea for placing information useful for those doing route planning into wiki.  Currently the thought was to be related to information gathered about specific US interstates that allow bicycle traffic.
I've peeked around at various sites to determine where to place it under Interstates but that seems large and I feel the bicycle information would be lost.  Eventually I landed here so instead of hacking into this I thought I'd drop a note here for suggestions on where this content would fit into wiki...
Prestonjb 20:30, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You might want to try adding a new section in this article for that purpose, put a few entries in it and see what the reaction (if any) of the other editors is.Wiley 00:29, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like a job for a national article, rather than a worldwide one like this.  A quick look finds a Cycling in the United States category but no article by that name, so perhaps that's the place to start a route article, suggesting how one may use a combination of cycleways and open roads, including Interstate Highways, to go where East Coast Greenway and other formally recognized routes don't go.  If such an article slowly turns into a collection of turn sheets, that's good too though it would require organizing into State and local articles, etc.  Jim.henderson 16:11, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why not make it a seperate article. And add links to it in several other wiki articles.Carsrac (talk) 15:00, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone's got to write it.  Preliminary drafts can go in someone's Talk Page, or in the Talk Page of a related article.  Jim.henderson (talk) 03:48, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Looking for a home 

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message: I've been trying to tidy up some aspects of this page but I feel defeated by the "Development" section which is highly opinionated and narrowly focused. For example, as a non-US person I'm prepared to believe that there might have been a "US Bicycle Boom" but I've never heard of anything like that so where is the citation and what was it? The mention of the "Greening of America" is also highly questionable as it was an aspirational statement, not a description of anything happening, and Charles Reich has recently acknowledged that his dream has not come to pass (http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2010/09/23/f-greening-reich.html).
So I've removed the reference to Bicycle Boom and Reich and tidied up the rest but it would be good to have somebody update all that from a more knowledgeable position.
Incidentally I've edited this post an hour or so after starting it as the original version said I didn't feel able to do anything about the Reich quite etc, but I decided that was a cop-out.
Chrisrustsheffield (talk) 16:51, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks whoever provided the link to the "Bike Boom" page and apologies if the link was there in the text I deleted, I've re-introduced the "US Bike Boom". Chrisrustsheffield (talk) 19:12, 19 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development 

message: Am I right that in thinking that an extended mountain bike tour, say, for example, along the South Downs Way in England, can be described as a cycle tour? I have also met mountain bikers in France doing an extended tour along a Grandes Randonnée, with their luggage transported for them. I'm currently working on the Trail riding article and as a non-biker/cyclist would appreciate advice. The image of an expedition tour in Patagonia, used in this article, would suggest that cycle tours are not just conducted on tarmac. See also, of course, Dervla Murphy. Rwood128 (talk) 12:34, 23 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mountain biking 

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