Talk:Angels & Airwaves

message: I just corrected the statement in the regular article that says the logo on the new album Love contains the Latin words "et ducit mundum per luce".  When i googled the album image what I actually found is that it says "et plumbum mundus per lumen".  Plumbum is the metal lead (rhymes with said), not the verb to lead.  It looks like the artist for the album has gotten pretty confused and probably typed these words into an online translating machine, hence the nonsense of the logo (which can't be translated but would mean something like "and lead world through light".  What the band wants to say is "et ducit mundum per lumen" or "per lucem", which means "And he leads the world by light".
I hope I don't get yelled at for conducting 'original research,' but this isn't really research.  It's correcting a mistake, as anyone who has studied a little Latin can confirm.  I've taken Latin for like 9 years so I know what I'm talking about.
Strewberries (talk) 12:13, 25 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: et ducit mundum per luce

message: I believe that the main picture in the article should be reverted to what it was before (the screen shot of a live show). Ryan Sinn is no longer in the band, so why have a picture of the band with him in it? Fantasy Dragon (talk) 04:03, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Band Picture

message: The current picture on this wiki has been incirculation for over a year so how can it have been taken during a 2008 photoshoot?  Jimbosupernova ( talk) 09:05, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Where did you get your source???

message: An AVA poster appears in this week's episode of Greek. --Jackdavinci (talk) 07:21, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: References to

message: "April 24, 2008 at 9:00pm Tom Delonge was on "Modcam" it was slow because 760 people were on modcam and this is how it was the whole time is said "Loading Messages.." so things were bad.But Tom was on and he talked about various things about modlife.
The AvA Documentary was confirmed by Tom that it will be in stores in 60 days. At Warped Tour they're going to have a modlife tent it will have what bands are going to be on modlife, and also the ava documentary will be on sale. AvA flags must be made from members at warped.
They are in the works of making a punk/rock album "just for fun" Front man Tom Delonge says. To make modlife expand they will move to a bigger server to make everyone on modcam a more delightful experince.
"It's been real and fun" 9:39pm pt."
I believe that this is a large amount of details to be added without any citation, so I removed it, though it might be true. I later saw this posted on PunkDisasters, which is usually a reliable site, though anyone can submit news on it, but I think it's pretty trustworthy. So unless there is no other citation for it, should this information be put back up and linked to PunkDisasters for citation? Also, if it is put back up, it needs to be rewritten. The problem is when they release news through ModLife...you can't use the site for citation. Fantasy Dragon (talk) 12:10, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What I removed 

message: Is this a movie? or a dvd? Shake 3000 (talk) 19:19, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Start the Machine? Or I-Empire? I don't know which one you're talking about. Start the Machine is a documentary and was released on DVD. It wasn't shown in theaters, except for a one-night premiere thing, and I-Empire so supposed to be a full-length sci-fi movie that I believe is going to be released in theaters, but I'm unsure on that. Fantasy Dragon (talk) 20:37, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Feature Film

message: Uh ... what ? I doubt this should be here. Free feel to revert if you think otherwise. If this is a valid section, create a new entry for it - it isn't important enough to warrant being the first section on the page either. Philpill (talk) 12:41, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Biggest Fan

message: I think Space rock should be added to the genre of the band. It has been said by the press many times so many website do cite the band as a space rock band as well. Plus, the band's sound is very similar to some 80s and 90s space rock bands, and there are even some similarities to Pink Floyd who are pretty much the fathers of space rock. SlayerXT (talk) 23:29, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Space rock

message: due to the reformation of blink 182  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.161.69.17 (talk) 10:12, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changed Angels and airwaves active date from present to 2009 

message: I created the album page and edited the main page. Anyone want to help out? In perticular the album cover which is in the video? Tyb222 (talk) 07:02, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Love

message: I had run across the acronym "AVA" on Facebook and was curious as to its meaning.  A quick google search, accompanied by a couple of other keywords managed to redirect me to the Angels and Airwaves wikipedia page.  Using Ctrl-F, I did manage to find the abbreviation AVA once in the page, used in a location that it appears to be interchangeable with the name of the band.  I'm only assuming that it is representative of the group from the way it was used.  I am unfamiliar with the group and do not know for certain.  Also, nowhere on the page does it specify.
Suggestion for improvement:  Clarify this.  Prior to using AVA, it should be defined.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.243.64.40 (talk) 12:28, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Usage of AVA in place of band name 

message: Created album page for Love: Part Two. Figured with the album getting very close to release, with a single being dropped already, it is time. DCJodon (talk) 06:08, 18 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Love: Part Two Pages Created and Corrected 

message: Ok, lets get this straight. Who is lead guitarist for the band, and who is rhythm? On some pages (on Wikipedia) it says Tom is rhythm, and David is lead. While is other pages (such as I-Empire it suggests that Tom is lead, and Davis is rhythm. Although, in some cases Tom can be seen playing lead, such as here. Please someone fix this. --58.167.60.230 (talk) 20:09, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Errors on ''guitars'' 

message: There are some genres in the infobox that IMO aren't proper of the band. May you find some sources? Otherwise, I'm going to remove them --Horcrux92 (talk) 13:10, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genres 

message: "Supergroup" isn't a peacock term. It just means the members are already famous for work with other groups. Doesn't mean that the group is super.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.206.144.50 (talk) 04:13, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Supergroup a peacock term? 

message: It's been confirmed that DeLonge and Rubin are the only two members of the band of present, yet I'm seeing changes to my edits saying that it's somehow a "rumour"? I don't know what more I need to do in order to confirm this. Any assistance would be appreciated. David James Young || davidjamesyoungwrites@gmail.com (talk)   — Preceding undated comment added 00:27, 8 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  2014 current members 

message: Although it does appear that he is not an official member of the band, it is possible that he never actually was. He came into AVA too late to have recorded anything for Dream Walker, so at best he would've been a touring member or official member yet to appear on an album until the NEXT album cycle. Seeing as he never performed a show with the band prior to the realization in the press that the only members remaining were Delonge and Rubin, it does not makes sense to classify Breckenridge as a "former member", for he may actually still be playing with the band, just not appearing in press photos or band bios on social media. Until his status is made clear, he ought not to be listed in official members sections (I know it seemed like he was a few months ago, but the situation has changed). For the diehard fans who want to catalogue every detail of the band, I merely ask you be patient until we know whether he is a touring member still or not.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.68.24.81 (talk) 22:46, 16 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eddie Breckenridge 

message: I think we need to re-write the entire member section and other parts of this article to reflect what tis group really is. The group is a multi-media super group that covers other mediums besides music. I think we can possibly create a page just for members that goes into their exact roles for the band. For example DeLonges roles as a member could be classified as a vocalist, guitarist, synth player, producer, actor and manager. Or rubin could be called a drummer, producer, bassist. So I think a major re-write of this article would be extremely beneficial. I.Wont.Give.In (talk) 17:33, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm interested. I'd be quite happy to look at some bits and pieces of the article, and we can discuss here as I go. 4TheWynne(talk)(contribs) 22:37, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're not going to cooperate properly, then I won't continue to help you. I've tried to reason with you, but if you're not willing to discuss properly or to compromise, then find someone else who will be willing to help you. 4TheWynne(talk)(contribs) 04:25, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite 

message: The first paragraph does a terrible job at mentioning the current and former band members. It's too confusing, long and list-like. It's also ungrammatical.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bearsca (talk • contribs) 17:33, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: The introduction

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: A merge has been suggested by a user. These articles should NOT be merged together, as they are distinct. Box Car Racer did not change its name to Angels & Airwaves, the project simply was spun off into a new, distinct project. This page (Angels & Airwaves) does not even mention Box Car Racer as the genesis (or at all actually), so basing a merge on one sentence in an article (Box Car Racer) does not suffice, especially when this sentence has no citation. This is a firm NO from me. Garchy (talk) 13:36, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I would wait for a greater discussion/consensus - I would not say this page move is non-controversial, so it may be good to wait for others to chime in - as of now the discussion is one for (you) and one against (me). Thanks, Garchy (talk) 15:24, 15 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted the page move until we can have a greater discussion - I already noticed a user who removed Box Car Racer content from this page due to the confusion it has caused - the references you provided are mostly blogs (not news sources), so I don't think it is generally accepted that Box Car Racer BECAME Angels & Airwaves, as you assert - rather, and also because Box Car Racer is a complete page (it is not a stub, rather it has substantial quality to it and can stand as its own page) there is no reason to merge the pages, especially since there are plenty of tags/links within both pages to tie in the fact that they are related (but not the same). Garchy (talk) 15:31, 15 July 2016 (UTC)

text:  That's not valid criteria. If there are a sufficient number of reliable sources that support the notability of Box Car Racer, then it should have its own article. If all of those sources have been written as a discussion of this band, it should probably be here. If someone with a mobile wants to access the article, there are plenty of apps that load the articles progressively based on sections so it's not a technical limitation. Walter Görlitz (talk) 04:00, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

text:  Litteral proof of Tom DeLonge saying That Box Car Racer IS Angels & Airwaves. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNkPm8haFCc&feature=youtu.be right there at 3:25.  At that point, his exact words. They are the same band, just a new name/lineup.  Walter Görlitz (talk Garchy (talk) Teddy2Gloves(talk)(contribs) 22:24, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested merge of Box Car Racer 

message: Over the past week I have seen him removed and added back a half dozen times. No one is offering a single source and this is a problem. His status needs to be sourced per :WP:V. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:14, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Ilan Rubin a current member or not? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Recently, it's become a subject of whether Nine Inch Nails and Thirty Seconds to Mars should be listed as associated acts to Angels and Airwaves. While not all of the qualifications listed on the musical artist template (Template:Infobox musical artist) apply to these bands, the same goes for most of the bands that are currently listed in associated acts, such as The Offspring, The Distillers, Hazen Street, and The New Regime. If all of these associated acts were to be deleted, that would only leave Blink-182 and Box Car Racer, and that seems ridiculous. In the article, Angels & Airwaves is called a supergroup, which is defined by Wikipedia as "a music group whose members are already successful as solo artists or as part of other groups or well known in other musical professions" (:Supergroup (music)). Therefore, it seems necessary to list all of the associated acts that each musician comes from and gained success from. Punkid122 (talk) 00:15, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: If only one member is in common, then we do not usually list the other band as an associated act. It is not necessary to list all of the bands the members are associated with. That's what the member articles are for. We should remove any and all "associated acts" that do not meet the requirement. Walter Görlitz (talk) 01:08, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I totally understand that. What I was also trying to say is that if the bands I mentioned aren't listed for this rule, then many of the other listed bands might want to be removed, because they have the same issue. The only concern might be that the associated acts section might seem a bit empty afterwards because Angels and Airwaves is considered a supergroup, and is why I haven't removed those bands myself. Punkid122 (talk) 18:20, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Associated Acts: Thirty Seconds to Mars & Nine Inch Nails 

message: The lines themselves are too narrow to make any clear distinction between roles. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:32, 22 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timeline looks terrible now