Template talk:Columns-start

message: Proposal without templates and without bullets, here a
screen reader would probably confuse columns 2 & 3:
Boolean algebra topics
Boolean domain
Boolean function
Boolean logic
Boolean-valued function
Canonical form
Laws of Form
Logic gate
Logical graph
Logical matrix
Venn diagram
Zeroth order logic
Complete Boolean algebra
Finitary boolean function
Forcing (mathematics)
Free Boolean algebra
Heyting algebra
Karnaugh map
Same idea adding the bullets, the source is short and
very simple, but I didn't check the resulting XHTML:
* Boolean algebra topics
* Boolean domain
* Boolean function
* Boolean logic
* Boolean-valued function
* Canonical form
* Laws of Form
* Logic gate
* Logical graph
* Logical matrix
* Venn diagram
* Zeroth order logic
* Complete Boolean algebra
* Finitary boolean function
* Forcing (mathematics)
* Free Boolean algebra
* Heyting algebra
* Karnaugh map
Works with a 10 years old browser, and without any template. Omniplex 21:01, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Added table summaries for a screen reader. Omniplex 12:20, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomagic 

message: Both templates read fine here with JAWS with the default setting of not detecting layout tables. When tables were used, they were detected as layout tables so that was fine. However, the new solution works no matter what the setting for table reading is.
However, I'd discourage the use of columns this way. I don't notice this because of the settings I use, but by default, the beginnings and ends of lists are announced. When columns are used, the list looks like 4 lists of 6 items, and when a plain bulleted list is used, it seems like one long list of 24 items.
For some reason, all versions of JAWS I'm testing at the moment are ignoring monobook.css and common.css, so I haven't had the chance to use it with the site-wide css enabled. Graham talk 09:45, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I don't like the columns, either, but some people want them, so I'm trying to make them as good as possible.  So the new div style is marginally better than the table style?  I didn't know screen readers detected layout tables.  I don't believe there's any way to make content truly continuous while breaking it into multiple columns.  It looks like that will be included in CSS3, but that's years away. — Omegatron 00:44, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yep, screen readers can detect layout tables if they are set up that way. But I don't see the point: it just makes them speak useless info. The new layout is therefore marginally better than the old one. Graham talk 12:11, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Results using screen reader

message: The documentation should explain clearly when to use this template and when to use .  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.67.227.181 (talk) 10:37, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  col-float 

message: This only puts about the same space between columns as the width of a space. To prevent accidentally reading a line from the left column together with a line from the right column, there should be at least 2em space between them.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.67.227.181 (talk) 10:48, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not enough space between columns 

message: I would like there to be a  parameter so I can add position: relative. I want to use this with , and without position: relative, the numbers align wrong:
 Eievie (talk) 05:41, 25 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style param