Talk:Nancy A. Collins

message: Many far less important and influential literary characters have their own Wikipedia articles.  There was an article, and it was removed, and that's a disgrace.  Google any obscure cartoon character--say Milton the Monster--and you find a Wikipedia article.  Sonja Blue, one of the most original figures in contemporary vampire fiction, clearly a direct (and uncredited) influence on Buffy the Vampire Slayer--gets a brief mention in her creator's extremely brief Wikipedia entry.  While untold thousands of far less important characters have lengthy write-ups.  
There's no excuse for this, no possible justification.  Somebody either screwed up, or else had an an axe to grind.  Either way, disgraceful.Xfpisher (talk) 19:02, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow. So, what are you doing to fix this? -- Infrogmation (talk) 17:26, 6 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's ridiculous there's no article for Sonja Blue. 

message: The "Selected short stories & novelettes" section should be edited so that short stories are in quotes and novelettes are in italics.  I can't do it myself since I don't know which is which.  Thanks.  N,N-dimethylpeptokryptamide (talk) 20:36, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Short Stories 

message: Recently. User:Pburka removed the following pages from :Category:American SubGenii.
Nancy A. Collins 
(Mentioned here, here and here)
Penn Jillette  
(Mentioned here and here and here)
Rudy Rucker 
(Mentioned here, here, here and here)
John Shirley 
(Mentioned here and here)
Bruce Campbell  (Mentioned here and here)
Del Close  (Mentioned here)
Paul Reubens AKA Pee Wee Herman  (Mentioned here and here)
Lon Milo DuQuette (Mentioned here)
These removals were perfectly reasonable, because the articles do not mention membership in the COSG, nor are most of the links I list above reliable sources. Because of this, I am putting out a call for citations to reliable sources that establish Church of the SubGenius membership for these and other celebrities. I suspect that a fair count will put the number considerably higher than the number of celebrity Scientologists. --Guy Macon (talk) 00:49, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the Collins links, together with the info already there (following links already in the article will show "Nanzi Regalia" or "Nanzi X. Regalia" is her SubGenius pseudonym and that "Love's Throbbing Bob" is a SubGenius story) establish the connection abundantly.  Is there now some policy in Wikipedia prohibiting noting of people's religious or organizational affiliations unless it is discussed in detail in the body of the article?  -- Infrogmation (talk) 21:32, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: From WP:BLPCAT: Category names do not carry disclaimers or modifiers, so the case for each category must be made clear by the article text and its reliable sources. Categories regarding religious beliefs or sexual orientation should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief or orientation in question, and the subject's beliefs or sexual orientation are relevant to their public life or notability, according to reliable published sources. I interpret this as requiring that justification for inclusion be present in both the text and in supporting references, not one or the other. Pburka (talk) 23:10, 31 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said before, I think that Pburka removing the category was entirely correct -- which is why I want to improve the article in such a way that the category can be re-added. The two parts of WP:BLPCAT that seem most relevant are "the case for each category must be made clear by the article text and its reliable sources" -- meaning we need to add something about Church of the SubGenius Membership in the text and we need a citation supporting it, and "Categories regarding religious beliefs ... should not be used unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief" -- meaning that We need a citation where Nancy A. Collins says she is a member. Is the "Nanzi Regalia" enough? Is it notable enough? (I would argue yes.) If so, all we need to do is add the text and the citation. --Guy Macon (talk) 03:49, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Church of the SubGenius]] Membership?