Talk:Torchwood Institute

message: RTD said in Confidential that Torchwood existed in S2005. Will (message me!) 09:49, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aliens of London 

message: Does the regular Rose Tyler actually go on to work for Alternate Torchwood, or does she just say that this is a possibility? RedvBlue 14:58, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: She says she's working for Torchwood, i.e. she already is. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 15:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're wrong. She doesn't say that. RedvBlue 23:51, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: When/where does Rose say she's working alternate Torchwood? quercus robur 20:49, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: She never does, but see here for more. RedvBlue 21:03, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternate Torchwood

message: I'm using the talk page to show what I've created so far... Zythe 17:02, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it would--SGCommand (talk • contribs) 16:40, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm missing 10 hours of sleep, but I'll work on creating one just for Torchwood tomorrow :) Zythe 22:15, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what you're talking about. What template? --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Creating an entirely new template for fictional organisations like Torchwood, but in such a way that it expressed all the key information we know about Torchwood. Eg. Founded by: Queen Victoria in 18XX. Known branches in: Canary Wharf, Cardiff. Etc. etc. Zythe 23:12, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, I see. This sounds like it might have a wider application than Doctor Who. Are there any similar templates around? --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 23:29, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I did look for a "Fictional organisations" or "fictional intelligence agencies" template but there appears to be none. I did look around quite a bit. So I was thinking, if I need to make one, I could make one just for Torchwood, which would be able to explain the nature of the institute a lot quicker. Zythe 12:28, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not consider making one for the various fictional organisations in general, or if you want a bit narrower, what we have for Doctor Who already? Look at :Category:Doctor Who organisations. Appropriate for this would be UNIT, ICIS and the Forge. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 12:35, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

text: perhaps? Will (message me!) 12:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Khaosworks, that would be good, then I could apply it to The Initiative (Buffyverse) but I don't know anything about UNIT or Forge.  Sceptre, that's not what I meant. I meant an edit of  to apply to organisations, it would look similar to the one shown on Umbrella Corporation etc. Zythe 15:48, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A little "bottom of the article" box Will (message me!) 18:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They're completely different things with completely different purposes. I'm going to go ahead and add the box to the main page. Be bold, right? Zythe 18:47, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That looks good! I've added it to S.P.E.C.T.R.E., and some else has added it to The Initiative (Buffyverse). smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 19:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And I've added it to UNIT, although someone should probably check I've got the details right. Daibhid C 20:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh, it was me again who added it to The Initiatve ^_^ Zythe 21:06, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Would it make sense for.... 

message: 'Torchwood' is an anagram for 'Doctor Who'
Is it worth mentioning this little tidbit?
Elfich 03:35, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's mentioned in Torchwood. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 04:01, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Odd Trivia 

message: Surely Captain Jack Harkness and Gwen Cooper are Torchwood personnel? Shouldn't they and any others from Torchwood be added to the list of Torchwood Personnel? RedvBlue 15:31, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, makes sense, I'll go ahead and do it. ~ZytheTalk to me! 17:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Torchwood Institute#Torchwood Personnel|Torchwood Personnel]]

message: Would it make sense if I created a Torchwood (disambiguation) page, which is linked to from Torchwood? As well as containing the television programme, it could include the Burseraceae page and this page. In this way, I think that it is easier for this Torchwood Institute page to be found. RedvBlue 11:03, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguation?

message: I wondered if anyone thought this might be a better picture to use? I don't actually know how to do this myself, so bear with me.
http://www.cybuscorporation.com/
Once you go to save it, you find that the actual logo and the "agents click here" bit are separate images. I say this because the current picture is a bit dirty (if you see what I mean.
Sorry, that last one was from me. Zoanthrope 19:08, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but while there is a fair use rationale for us being able to use the logo released in the promotional picture, the use of the graphic (created by the site owners, presumably) is not as clear. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 22:53, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: I'm not sure Torchwood is public by 2012. While it's obvious the obscured line was written as a Torchwood reference, it seems to me just as likely that, within the programme, he was talking about the wood the Olympic Torch was made from... Daibhid C 19:33, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No - on the Doctor Who Confidential show, it did list this as a reference. This means that Torchwood must have been common knowledge at this time. RedvBlue 13:30, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Fear Her''

message: Does Jack definately say that?  I don't remember it I just thought he said it was involved in the battle of Canary warf.  The building definately still exists at the end of Doomsday, even if most of its staff are dead.
:Transcribed from the episode verbatim:
::Jack: This is Torchwood Three. Torchwood One was London... destroyed in the Battle. Torchwood Two is an office in Glasgow — very strange man. Torchwood Three, Cardiff. Torchwood Four has kinda gone missing but we'll find it one day.
:--khaosworks (talk • contribs) 14:57, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Torchwood one destroyed?

message: The Torchwood Insititute website includes various exerpts from the Institute's files, detailing events from its history. The canonity of this information, like all spin-off media, is unclear.
In 1886 a Torchwood agent discovered a brilliant scientist had killed his wife and children with radiation. He was prevented from taking this further, to protect the Institute's anonymity. 
In a speech made in 1888, Queen Victoria coined the Torchwood motto "If it is alien, then it is ours".
In 1922 a Torchwold agent named Gladys Minnow covered up an alien visitor which had been found by a young boy, claiming it to be a stuffed ape. Both the corpse and the child were sent to "a crown charity outside Glasgow" (presumably Torchwood-2).
In the 1950s Torchwood-3 used a fish and chips shop as a front. Agents of this branch included Dr Sally Fletcher, whose journal is used in the website; Charlie, whose duties included maintaining the front; Peter, another scientist who worked with Sally; and "the Boss". Other Torchwood employees, from different departments, included G. Johnson, S. Harris, I. Finders, B. Foster, and F. Turner. The chip shop also employed a woman named  Merryl, who had no idea of its true purpose. 
The Boss was highly manipulative, at one point sending Sally to a village powered by a crashed spaceship while telling her she was on holiday.The village was subsequently flooded for a hydroelectric reserve. 
In 1962 a Torchwood agent and his young daughter suffered slowly fatal effects after he took an artifact home, and were quarantined in a caravan until their deaths. 
At some point after Captain Jack joined Torchwood (presumably the 2000s), he destroyed a being that fed off devotion, draining its victims' strength, in a gay bar in Cardiff. 
::It's entirely possible this is all Too Much Detail. Daibhid C 14:45, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Website History

message: There appears to be a contradiction here:
"It was later revealed that the London branch of Torchwood, referred to as Torchwood One, lost 696 members of staff and was ultimately ordered to close by Queen Elizabeth." ~ [Under heading "2007"]
"According to the Torchwood website, there were 823 members of staff. Only 27 were known to have survived." ~ [Under heading "Divisions > Torchwood One, London"]
There seems to be a discrepancy of exactly 100 people.  Furthermore, looking at the provenance for the first figure, I find the following:
"Of 823 staff, we have 27 survivors. 467 are known to be dead, the rest are listed as missing."
Therefore, unless somebody can justify the figure of 696, I propose it be amended to either 796 (823 - 27) or 467.~BranfishTalk to me!
:769 is correct. Bad maths when you have no coffee and haven't slept in weeks.~ZytheTalk to me! 00:12, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death Toll for the Battle of Canary Wharf 

message: I ask this more out of curiosity than anything else, but why is there a member of staff listed as "Samuel", linking to a page about Mickey? ~ BranfishTalk to me!
:Because "Samuel" was actually Mickey working covertly in Torchwood under an assumed name. --GracieLizzie 13:37, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Samuel 

message: In episode 1 of torchwood doesnt cpt jack mention that he works at torchwood 5 and that 1-3 were destroyed and torchwood 4 was lost? That is a direct quote from Babylon 5 in which a similar fate befalls the previous babylon stations. Why is torchwood 3 confused with torchwood 5 in this article. In fact, torchwood 5 is missing from this article completely. How comes? --Filthish 13:21, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're just confused. The Babylon reference is mentioned at Everything Changes (Torchwood). Jack works at Torchwood Three. One was destroyed. Two is operational in Scotland. Four is missing. Hope that clears it up. 13:40, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Torchwood vs Babylon 5 

message: Should there be a reference to this security firm (as Torchwood owns it), and if so, where? Will (Because you're filthy, ooh, and I'm gorgeous)Merry Christmas! 19:28, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  H.C. Clements 

message: It's excellent, like all Doctor Who articles, but I have some problems I feel a week would be enough to complete:
#There should be a section on the conception of Torchwood, like being an anagram of Doctor Who and how it was the big arc of the second series of the revived show.
#: Will (We're flying the flag all over the world) 17:29, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA review 

message: Hi,
Since the last episode of Doctor Who has let us know that Jack Harkness is The Face of Boe, wouldn't it be safe to assume that he will lead the Torchwood institute into the future? We have heard in the episode "The Satan Pit" that Torchwood still exists (I believe there are other references as well)
Grtz,
robin.lemstra
:Basically, in compiling an encyclopedia entry for a fictional organisation, it's not safe to assume anything. Either it's been mentioned in the show, or it hasn't. And there's nothing suggesting that Jack plans to remain with the Institute for as long as it exists, or that nothing will prevent such plans, should he have them. Daibhid C 19:16, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Something else

message: I notice links have been inserted to the effect that Torchwood was created by Victoria of the United Kingdom. This seems a wrong-headed and confusing conflation of fantasy and reality. The tenor of the article is fictional, so shouldn't all the plot-related links be to fictional characters too, e.g. historical characters in Doctor Who rather than real people, who have no link whatsoever with the story? Just a thought. --Stevouk 23:17, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really see anything wrong with a reference to a fictional portrayal of a real person linking to the page on that person, since that's who the story was referring to. I think it's clear enough that the article isn't claiming she really founded Torchwood. I also note that the Victoria page has a section on her portayal in fiction, which includes "Tooth and Claw" and her founding of Torchwood. Would it help if the link were altered to go directly to that section? Daibhid C 21:56, 14 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Are we to assume everyone in the whole world knows who Queen Victoria is?~ZytheTalk to me! 22:24, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you find someone who doesn't? ;) Leushenko 19:39, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Was she the inventer of the sponge? (sorry) 88.105.121.86 (talk) 23:12, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Queen Victoria? 

message: Should this be mentioned? In Doomsday, Rose clearly states that she runs Torchwood on paralell earth. Infact, a oneoff show about this was planned but was cancelled by Russell T Davies at the last minute.
:It is mentioned.~ZytheTalk to me! 23:23, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paralell Torchwood/ Rose's Torchwood 

message: Why was her name taken off the article? She had a role in the fall of London, and she's related to Martha. BethEnd 15:38, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added her in yesterday, she was removed by User:OZOO with the claim that she wasn't important. I added her back in today since I feel she is more important than say "Samuel" and she has an entry, unlike Singh.  If she is to be removed again, I'd like to see discussion of it.Shsilver 15:19, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Samuel" is important because it was relevant to the ongoing Cyberman story arc. Will (talk) 15:27, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adeola Oshodi removed 

message: I may just be being pedantic, but is the use of the work slavery in the mention of Charles Gaskell really correct?
Almost all Western nations and their colonies had abolished slavery by this point (1901) (See Abolition_of_slavery_timeline). I feel a term such as racial discrimination or simply racism would be more suitable and accurate, linking to the Racism article.
Worldbeing21:07, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd go along with that. And while that bit's being rewritten "two further agents" isn't really correct; the female one is Alice Guppy again. Daibhid C (talk) 23:01, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of word 'Slavery'? 

message: I think that the Torchwood Three personnel from "To The Last Man", "Fragments" and "Exit Wounds" should be added. They're in the list of characters page, why not the Torchwood Institute page? Sims2aholic8 (talk) 21:18, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Notability and clutter. They're ALL listed on Tardis Wiki, however.~ZytheTalk to me! 12:58, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Personnel

message: I have nominated the article for a community review of its GA status, which can be found here. Please comment there for ways of improving the article and helping it to maintain its GA status. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 03:24, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: GAR

message: Whilst the 'Cultural Impact' section is good, it seems odd to me for a fictitious institute to have had cultural impact; it would seem more appropriate for this to be part of the article for the Torchwood/Doctor Who shows, or for the Whoniverse article.  Is there a Wikipedia policy on this sort of thing? PoisonedPigeon (talk) 12:39, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cultural Impact 

message: Could you explain to me why lead sections must be written in a certain way, and what that certain way is, in accordance with the page guidelines.  The lead section was amended to include the 'official' government information service description of the Torchwood institute from the most recently broadcast series but has subsequently been reverted to an earlier and less tidy edit.  I made the edit in good faith attempting to be true to the programme, but I am new to Wikipedia and so would benefit from someone more experienced with wiki edits who will improve the edit rather than merely revert to a more dated version.  Thank you. 
Politicalwizard (talk) 19:17, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The leads of articles are written so as to establish a basic frame of reference for the reader, and the guidelines are set out here. Different Wikiprojects have minor variations on that, but that's the starting point. Rodhullandemu 19:21, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead Section 

message: Should we have a picture of Torchwood India i could only find 2 pictures but they are from the BBC would fair use be ok for this purpose to illustrate what Torchwood India look like the link are below let me know what you think.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/images/episode/b00lg4nq_640_360.jpg
http://www.bbcshop.com/Science-Fiction/Torchwood-The-Golden-Age/invt/9781408426654&temp=enlarged&layout=empty  
Sfxprefects (talk) 17:53, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Torchwood India Picture

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