Talk:Puppis

message: Someone should write a text about the recent discovery of planets orbiting around Puppis.
200.178.22.27 13:55, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Star System

message: I removed some vandalism (Changing all instances of "Puppis" to "Poop" and was wondering what the symbolism of Puppis is.  It is currently listed as "Poop Deck" but I am suspicious of that. 
Mathteacher1729 19:58, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's literally correct--Puppis is the "poop deck" or the stern of a ship.  Perhaps we should change it to "stern" to stop tempting the vandals so much?--Todd 20:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poop Deck? 

message: As I understood it, Pyxis was called Malus, the Mast, when it was part of Argo. Rothorpe (talk) 13:59, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Pyxis was never part of Argo. Pyxis was added by Lacaille as one of his 14 new constellations. Malus was a suggested alternative name for Pyxis but never caught on. I expect user Vgent can corroborate this if he is watching.  Skeptic2 (talk) 15:34, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Sorry, that's still wrong. The name Malus wasn't suggested until nearly 90 years after Lacaille divided up Argo. Skeptic2 (talk) 17:34, 3 August 2011 (UTC)

text: I agree with most of this, but excuse me for raising one query... I looked at the 1763 edition of Lacaille's planisphere http://www.e-rara.ch/zut/content/zoom/197200?lang=en and did not find the names Carina, Puppis or Vela. As far as I can see, Lacaille used only the name Argo Navis on the chart. Equally, I looked through his 1763 catalogue and did not find Malus mentioned there either -- only Carina, Puppis and Vela (plus, of course, Pyxis as a separate entity). Am I missing something? Skeptic2 (talk) 12:40, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for being equally 'sceptical' about my claims - I fear that I have created further confusion in this matter. You are correct that Lacaille's 1763 star catalogue does not mention Malus, nor are his three divisions of Argo Navis marked on the star map. This evening I will have a closer look at my notes again and hopefully tomorrow I will be able to inform you who actually first created Malus. AstroLynx (talk) 16:30, 4 August 2011 (UTC)

text: I rather goofed yesterday with my 'research' on Malus/Pyxis and I should have looked more closely at the original sources myself - I relied too much on some notes on Lacaille's constellations made some years ago (which I now realize are incomplete and partly wrong). As you communicated to me yesterday (by private e-mail), you are completely right in stating that John Herschel (in 1844) was the first to introduce Malus and that it replaced Lacaille's Pyxis Nautica. Of the major 19th-century star atlases I only found one example, C. Behrmann's Atlas des südlichen gestirnten Himmels: Darstellung der zwischen dem Südpol und dem 20. Grad südlicher Abweichung mit blossen Augen sichtbaren Sterne nach ihren wahren, unmittelbar vom Himmel entnommenen Grössen (Leipzig: F.A. Brockhaus, 1874), which uses the name Malus on its charts. Best forget everything that I wrote here yesterday on this topic. AstroLynx (talk) 08:40, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  No problem. Thank you for the correction. I will add a note to the Pyxis entry in an effort to stop people from changing it again (but I bet someone will still try...). Skeptic2 (talk) 10:20, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Pyxis, Argo Navis & Malus

message: The sidebar notes 3 stars within 10 parsecs of Earth (32 ly), and yet the main text states that the star nearest to Earth is over 40 light years away. It'd possibly be useful to clear up this confusion in some way. 208.95.237.84 (talk) 23:37, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stars within 30 pc