Talk:Axis & Allies

message: A third revision of the game comes out in a couple weeks, featuring a new board, Cruisers, Italy as the third axis player, and China as a fourth Allied country (but controlled by US) under the name "Axis & Allies: Anniversary Edition". I am surprised not to find anything mentioning this on the A&A page, though details are fairly scant at the moment... 
From boardgamegeek.com:
"To celebrate the 50-year anniversary of Avalon Hill, Axis & Allies is launching its most expansive game ever. The Axis & Allies Anniversary Edition will feature the debut of Italy as the third Axis nation, the introduction of the cruiser unit to the naval lineup, and the largest Axis & Allies board to-date measuring 24x46 inches. With over 600 pieces, players will be able to recreate and decide the outcome of WWII like never before. The Axis & Allies Anniversary Edition is designed and developed by  Larry Harris, the original designer of Axis & Allies, and will release on October 23, 2008."
The game will be released on 10/23/08 and will retail for $100, with a 2x4-foot board and all sorts of goodies, but as it will be a true third version of A&A it seems worth at least a mention here.
From Kirottu82 (talk) 00:20, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Anniversary Edition?

message: The revised version has been existing for 4 years. I think the focus should be more shifted to description of the revised version itself, rather than just compare the revised and the original. At least some pictures of the revised version should be presented.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.216.148.19 (talk) 14:10, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: There should be a picture of the revised version

message: ...if someone (like say Avalon Hill) had soft copies of the reference charts. I have the Milton Bradley version from like the early nineties and I lost the rule book and the reference charts. I found the rule book a couple of years ago (then on Hasbro's site) but I have yet to find reference charts to set up the pieces. Im really disappointed to not have found it on wikipedia :( 67.169.206.46 18:52, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because that content is copyrighted. -- 70.57.74.73 (talk) 19:23, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: You know what would be cool?

message: I think not!  I prefer to play the Axis powers...I like the hyper-aggressive strategy they need to adopt in order to win.  I've been playing A&A for over ten years now, and I certainly don't view the Axis as being at a real disadvantage if an experienced player is at the helm.  
--M.U.D.
:You may be right, particularly in competition play with bids, but someone claiming to be the lead developer agrees with the comment right below here... The Land 23:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say the lead developer has a vested interest in devaluing the classic edition.  After all, he wants us to all go out and buy the new one.  I'm not trying to suggest that anyone is acting in bad faith, but it takes more than the lead developer's say-so to make a point...
I'm going to go as far as to say the Revised Edition is still an unfair fight for the axis. Germany gets torn apart unless it huddles around Western Europe which can only result in, if all the Allies work together, complete destruction when the full forces of Russia, Britain, and America turn to them. The Allies would be foolish to fight Germany and Japan seperate and if they put all there men into saving russia the axis are bound to lose. Axis and Allies: Revised Edition is alot easier for the Allies. 
M.U.D. 03:01, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree with the sentiment; not trying to push a POV. IIRC, I deleted that paragraph because it was without context and had some mistakes. The current version is better-developed and in an appropriate place. --Twinxor 16:44, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

text: Yes, I suspect none of the previous editos are international Axis and Allies players. However, I think that paragraph is a fair summary of vanilla A&A, which is an Allied walkover. However, a section in the article on improvements and competitive play rules would be very welcome... The Land 10:18, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Balanced towards the Allies?

message: This page should really be moved to Axis & Allies as that's the real name of the game.  I know there's currently a redirect from that title that brings you here to this page (called Axis and Allies).  It should be the other way around.  If there's no objections, I will fix this.  Craw-daddy 11:53, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no objections, but wouldn't the title for this article need to be changed to "Axis & Allies" or something similar? WinterSpw 23:11, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. The page should be at "Axis & Allies", not "Axis and Allies". —Lowellian (reply) 03:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct title 

message: Dear friends
Could you add a link to www.axisandallies.nl from your website? This will help put NAAF - Netherlands Axis & Allies Federation higher up on Google.
I have also added your website to our links, which will hopefully help you and might attract Netherlands players to your Wiki.
Many thanks in advance!
Peter-Willem Schellen
CEO - Chief Executive Officer
NAAF - Netherlands Axis & Allies Federation
peter-willem.schellen@axisandallies.nl
ceo@axisandallies.nl —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.140.175.170 (talk • contribs) 
:How large is this Federation? And remember to always sign with four tildes: ~~~~ WinterSpw 15:35, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems there are quite a few PC versions of Axis & Allies. Axis & Allies (2004 video game) is an RTS version of the game. WinterSpw 17:56, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please add this link 

message: Hi, they recently came out with a new version about the battle of Gudacanal.  Could someone please add this in?  I would but im terrible at writing stuff in.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.69.186.204 (talk) 19:59, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've seen this game advertised too.  I've added it. — Val42 (talk) 21:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battle of Guadalcanal 

message: I have removed external links to discussion forums as they are a violation of WP:EL. -- MakeChooChooGoNow (talk) 02:53, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: www.axisandallies.org is the authority regarding this game. It's short-sighted removing it with sweeping generalisations.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.54.165.243 (talk) 16:26, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: axisandallies.org is an online community. They do not own or publish the game. JohnnyPolo24 (talk) 17:29, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: No external links to discussion forums, please

message: "To celebrate the 50-year anniversary of Avalon Hill, Axis & Allies is launching its most expansive game ever. The Axis & Allies Anniversary Edition will feature the debut of Italy as the third Axis nation, the introduction of the cruiser unit to the naval lineup, and the largest Axis & Allies board to-date measuring 24x46 inches. With over 600 pieces, players will be able to recreate and decide the outcome of WWII like never before. The Axis & Allies Anniversary Edition is designed and developed by Larry Harris, the original designer of Axis & Allies, and will release on November 18th, 2008."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.31.227.251 (talk) 05:57, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Axis & Allies: 50th Anniverserary Edition 

message: I like this table, but I'm not too sure how much longer it can remain readable, if it even is now. The table already doesn't account for the Europe and Pacific versions of the game, and there's also the recently announced 1940 games for Europe & Pacific, which will be linkable to form one, massive global game. Does anyone think it would be useful to rework the format of the table, get rid of it altogether, make it into its own article (something such as List of units in the Axis & Allies series), or just leave it alone for now? Is it even noteworthy to have its own article? JohnnyPolo24 (talk) 11:14, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unit Comparison: The Three Editions 

message: I have tried and tried but somehow seem incapable of making the table accept the addition of a fourth set of unit statistics without screwing up somewhere.  
I humbly request that someone do so in my place.  But PREVIEW FIRST because I would have sworn my edits were perfect until I saw the table go screwy in Preview mode.  
Add new section to each unit under the heading "Nova"
(Note:  Of course, you should simply expand the existing fields where appropriate)
Infantry:  3; 1; 2; 1 (same as MB)
Artillery:  n/a (MB)
Armor:  5; 3; 2; 3 (MB)
Fighter:  12; 3; 4; 4 (MB)
Bomber:  15; 4; 1; 6 (MB)
Submarine:  8; 0; 2; 2; Has a defensive "attack" before normal combat, NOT in normal combat; casualties do not fire.  
Transport:  8; 0; 1; 2; Can carry up to two land units.  
Destroyer:  n/a (MB)
Cruiser:  n/a (MB)
Battleship:  24; 4; 4; 2; (Note:  no mention in rules, I believe, of battleship shots in amphibious invasions)
Aircraft Carrier:  18; 1; 1; 2; Can carry up to two aircraft.  Bombers on aircraft carriers have zero defense.  
Anti-aircraft gun:  5; 0; 3; 1; Gets one defensive shot against enemy aircraft, regardless of number, before combat.  
Industrial complex:  15; 0; 0; 0; Unlimited production capacity.  
I may try again to add these myself; but if I haven't yet, please try yourselves.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.63.249.6 (talk) 02:30, 19 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nova Unit Statistics 

message: Can this request be added to the external links section please?
http://www.axisandalliesworldclub.net AAWC - Axis & Allies World Club (competitive ladder play for the 1998 Hasbro version)
97.83.97.94 (talk) 01:02, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Why? It doesn't look like an official site for anything. It looks more like a community site, which are links to be avoided according to WP:ELNO. ~Amatulić (talk) 04:07, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from , 16 November 2011 

message: The "official" site for Axis & Allies is a terrible place to get news for the game. Supposed "fan sites" and blogs are doing a much better job of keeping up. Given how long Axis & Allies.org has been around (12 years), why is it still considered not appropriate for linking?
Next, TripleA is in no way officially associated with Axis & Allies so why is it listed here? Why isn't Gametableonline listed instead? That is the "official" online way to play the game. 
What would it take to have the link added? Would officially licensing the Axis & Allies brand do it?   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Djensen47 (talk • contribs) 23:50, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: TripleA Links vs. Axis & Allies .org

message: IIRC, in order to avoid copyright issues TripleA does the best they can to distance themselves from being called "Axis & Allies." It is furthermore not an official version of Axis & Allies and the link to TripleA would likely be more appropriate elsewhere in wikipedia. 
It deserves a mention in Open_source_games and should definitely be listed here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_open_source_games
Gametable Online, however, does have an officially licensed version of both A&A Revised and the newest, A&A 1942. There are links from Avalon Hill/WotC to this site and it is worthy of mention on this page.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.210.128.94 (talk) 16:46, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gametable Online is official, TripleA is not 

message: It turns out the references to Global are confusing people. They think they can purchase a copy of Axis & Allies Global 1940, which as we know is not possible.
For example, the following twitter conversation:
https://twitter.com/BanjoCatfish/status/549728337997103104
The person @BanjoCatfish thought Wikipedia lied to him.
It turns out this person missed the footnote.
Djensen47 (talk) 01:07, 30 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Global is causing confusion 

message: There are 4 mentions of Antiaricraft Artillery in the "Versions" table, yet they are not listed in the "Units" table.  I did a bunch of research and it appears this is the same as the Antiaircraft gun from previous editions, but the rules have changed a little.
"An Antiaircraft artillery (AAA) unit can fire only at an air unit when that unit attacks the territory containing
that AAA unit. AAA units fire only once, before the first round of combat. Each AAA unit in the territory may fire up to
three times, but only once per attacking air unit"
See page 25 here: http://www.axisandallies.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Axis-Allies-1942-Second-Edition.pdf
The "Units" table needs to be updated to reflect this change in the "1940" and "1942" Editions.   I will attempt to fix it.
--Kharnellius (talk) 05:45, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Antiaircraft Artillery?

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I noticed that the unit table's entry for tanks under the 1942 version says it costs 5 IPCs. This is true of Spring 1942, but not 1942 2nd Edition, where it costs 6. Seeing as how both 1942 and Global 1940 have multiple editions, it is worth asking generally: which edition of each version should the table reflect? If it's meant to document the most recent editions, I'll make the change relating to the tank cost. However, I'm unaware if discrepancies exist in other entries (1942-2e is the only version I own). Matthew V. Milone (talk) 15:52, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which editions should the unit table reflect? 

message: Okay I just saw this change that was made to Game Development. And first of all there seems to be no source of this. So, if these people did make Axis And Allies a source would be nice because this is hard to believe.
Additionally, the story just doesn't connect to the known early beginnings of Axis And Allies.
If Axis And Allies (Risk II) was invented in Michigan in 1979 and declined by Parker Brothers,
Then how was it copied by Larry Harris in Connecticut who had never worked with Parker Brothers, or any board game company as far as I can tell until 1981 so there would be no way of him knowing about Risk II. 
And the board game company he joined in 1981 was Nova Game Design for the sole purpose to publish his game called Axis And Allies that year. (So apparently he somehow heard about the game states away and without ever working for Parker Brothers)
And there's no way to suggest that Nova Game Design copied Risk II as they were literally a self made company of five people in Connecticut in a basement. (Apparently the only people who would publish Larry's game)
Nova Game Design then sold Axis And Allies to Milton Bradley in 1984
Even more, if the rules to Risk II were almost exactly the same to Milton Bradley's Axis And Allies except for one rule about factories. Then what about the rules before Milton Bradley. The original rules had Atomic Bombs, Unique National Abilities, and Pro Neutrals that gave money to major powers just to name a few. It would be unlikely that final rule set that Milton Bradley ended on just happened to be a one on one copy of Risk II.
If Risk II does exist, I believe that it is just pure coincidence. There is no evidence, no person, no location, that connects these games other than the rules and even then it is know that the Axis And Allies rules changed greatly before Milton Bradley even released the game.
Larry Harris, the guy who suggested the game to Milton Bradley, had no connection to Parker Brothers and it is highly unlikely he heard about this game 700 miles away.
2600:8800:5E00:6DE:5D92:2E20:932E:BFAA (talk) 07:01, 23 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  That change to game development. 

message: When we read in the article, "Axis & Allies was declared the best-selling physical wargame in August 1996, having eclipsed the 275,000 copies sold by PanzerBlitz, the second-highest seller in the genre," does this assume that games like Risk (game) and Battleship (game) (which surely sold far more boxes than A&A) are not in the genre of physical wargame? - Swiss Mister in NY (talk) 03:54, 7 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Best-selling?