Talk:Immelmann turn

message: The maneuver was likely not invented by Immelman, nor perhaps even practiced by him, though the story is pervasive.
http://www.acepilots.com/wwi/ger_immelmann.html
I have seen text references to an Allied pilot named Himmelman as the turn's inventor, but cannot confirm this online.
Will attempt to locate the book and furnish references.12.36.123.254 00:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

message: This article doesn't describe a true "combat" Immelmann turn.
The imelmann turn is more like a zoom and boom --  pitch up, throttle down, quarter roll and rudder into a directed stall.  The idea is to give a pilot more opportunities to shoot down a slower aircraft.203.129.50.115 05:49, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to add it, after all we all can add to Wikipedia. - Dammit 10:24, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Added the Immelmann as it was performed in WW1 kept the original Immelmann article in place since the half loop is nowadays called an Immelmann LilRed86 20:31, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The WWI manoevre illustration is contemporary (1918) (from an official RNAS/RAF manual of that date) - that was the "original" as done by WWI pilots (who knows? perhaps even by Immelmann himself). It may well be "esoteric" in the sense that you haven't heard of it but that's exactly what it is.  This is an encyclopedia, not a summary of what you already know. Sorry. The "half-loop" stunt is there too (in fact I think the original comment here was referring to that one!), so how is it a "disservice and a distraction"? and to whom? The original reference, on the other hand, seems to have been lost. Will try to relocate it. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 07:03, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong manuovre 

message: In the beginning of the article, it says the turn has no connection to Max Immelmann. Later in the article, it says the exact opposite. 81.233.196.49 (talk) 14:16, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Read the article - it actually describes two different maneuvers called the Immelmann. --Soundofmusicals (talk) 09:54, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradiction

message: The Hammerhead Turn as described in its own article seems very similar to the first version of the Immelmann in this article. Can anyone knowledgeable about aerobatics help to differentiate them, or else confirm that they are the same maneuver? I have an eye toward either merging the two articles, or at least linking them in some way. JonsonMaclean (talk) 05:26, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  How similar to Hammerhead Turn? 

message: This is basically French for "reversal". I know not who put in the remark implying that it was what the French called the WWI immelmann, but to be honest I'd love this to be true. On the other hand, it has been challenged - I can't confirm anything of the kind, much less find a "reliable source". The nearest I can get is that in (modern?) French aerobatic terminolgy "renversement" refers to something very like a "split-S", So, with a lot of regret, I have to delete this as "challenged and unconfirmable". -Soundofmusicals (talk) 21:45, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Renversement" 

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