Talk:Cloth menstrual pad

message: Sorry about the POV tag, but this really isn't, and I really haven't got time to fix it. It would be a great article on a site that didn't require a NPOV, but at the moment it's too positive. Some people think cloth pads are gross, some wouldn't care for the washing, etc. I like them too, but I care about wiki policies. --Kelly holden 23:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: POV tag/neutrality disputed

message: I have expanded the introductory paragraph a bit.  --A vivid dreamer 05:09, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Introductory paragraph

message: I'm not sure if "current use" is a good name for this section or not.  I was trying to think of a name to contrast the "history" section of the article, but I'd love other suggestions for a more appropriate title for this section.  So, anything that is about modern cloth pads goes in this section.  My ideas for other possible names for this section:
*Modern cloth menstrual pads
*Cloth menstrual pads today
*Current day
*Modern day
*Present day
What do other people think?  Any preferences or suggestions as to what this section could be called?--A vivid dreamer 08:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Current use section

message: I think the history section needs to be more specific to cloth pads.  Maybe we could present it in a time line format? 
eg.
*1700's - women used x kind of pads
*1800's - women used y kind of pads
*1900's - women used z kind of pads
etc etc...
If we had pictures of examples of the kinds of cloth pads used over the centuries, it could even be presented in a gallery style eg.
Image:no image|example of cloth pad used in 1700's
Image:no image|example of cloth pad used in 1800's
Image:no image|example of cloth pad used in 1900's
Image:no image|example of cloth pad used in 2000's
Though I imagine it might be hard to come accross appropriate pictures that could be freely used. --A vivid dreamer 08:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The history section uses the words "it would appear", a number of times.  To me this comes accross as saying that the writer has looked around and come to that opinion, rather than these bits of information actually being facts that have been proved by propper research.  Wikipedia has a policy No original research, I think this would count as original research.  There's a difference between citing the conclusions from results of a formal study and reading as much information you can find on a topic and drawing your own conclusions.  The latter is original research, and according to the current wording of the article, it gives the impression that this is what has taken place.  --A vivid dreamer 06:47, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History section

message: I have made some changes to the advantages and disadvantages sections in an attempt to make this article NPOV and to make these sections more reader-friendly.  These changes included:
*Breaking the lists up into categories (environmental, economical, personal, health/safety)
*Removing the detailed explanations - some (particularly the explanations listed under advantages) were POV, and most of the other detailed explanations were repeating the information already covered in the bullet point lists.  
*Moved the remaining appropriate information from the detailed explanations into the bullet point lists (however some of the points may need references added to them). 
*I removed the link to a survey about cloth pads shortening the length of the menstrual cycle (), because the survey was not a  reliable source.
--A vivid dreamer 08:23, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Advantages and disadvantages sections

message: I have rearranged the article and condensed some of the sections into broader sections (as some of the previous sections only contained a few sentences each). I've reworded a lot of things to be more NPOV, but I have retained most of the information from the original content.  --A vivid dreamer 08:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The article in general

message: Does anyone have any infomation on menstrual blood being left around for days? That doesn't seem safe to me but I can't find any information on it. Same with the washing instructions. All the sources say to just simply rinse them in cold water or put in with a regular clothes wash. But is all the bacteria etc cleaned away by doing that? I wouldn't think so, but again I can't find any information on this.
:I've added a "citation needed" tag to the bit in the article that refers to there being no need to boil or sanatise the pads unless the woman has had thrush.--A vivid dreamer 06:24, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the person was worried about bacteria in the menstrual blood itself, but rather the potential of bacteria breeding in the blood left on a cloth pad for several days before it is washed (or a pad being soaked in bloody water for days before being washed in a washing machine).  So, the questions are: 
*Does washing a cloth pad (without boiling or sanitising/sterilising) kill any bacteria that may have formed when the pad was left sitting around/soaking?  
*And does any remaining bacteria have the potential to cause thrush or other health problems for the woman?--A vivid dreamer 09:20, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Health and Safety 

message: Am I the only one who irons my pads? Am I just a little obsessive/compulsive? -Drawn Some (talk) 05:58, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ironing

message: The main problem with this article is found in a myriad quotes in this talk page. Statements such as "In my searches across the web I have found" and "after my research I have found".
No. Original. Research. No "anecdotal evidence". Quote peer-reviewed journals or books by recognized authorities. Or quote nothing.
No weasel words. "Many women" do not a fact make. 
No dismissing factual concerns of factual women because they are "seek(ing) to further ingrain the prejudice people have against menstruation in general and to remind people to stay with the herd". Encyclopedia articles aren't about how things should be, but about how they are. Be intellectually honest.
This could be a very interesting and informative article about an alternative many women don't even know exists. However, as it stands, it's just an infomercial, and risks being dismissed by readers because of it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.22.175.73 (talk) 14:15, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  More POV/NPOV concerns 

message: Because the history section of this article and Sanitary napkin#History cover exactly the same topic, and are very similar, I think that the history section in this article should be summarized and then linked to the main section, Sanitary napkin#History. --Ships at a Distance (talk) 15:03, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section 

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message: The image Se Floral Pad.jpg seems to be an advertise for a clothing company. They removed the previous image (File:Clothpad.jpg) for no reason and added this one which displays the Se Floral's logo. Armin1718 (talk) 06:52, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advertising