Talk:Thousand Island dressing

message: I don't know where the bit about Big Boys being dressed with Thousand Island came from, but it's wrong.  They have tartar sauce, not Thousand Island.
Pstemari (talk) 02:59, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Uses

message: "LaLonde substituted mayonnaise for the yogurt used in Russian dressing"  It seems unlikely that yogurt was used in Russian dressing, as in the "first decades of the 20th century", yoghurt was virtually unknown in the US. --Macrakis 23:55, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: In the UK, "Marie Rose sauce" is a term synonymous with Thousand Island dressing, as used, for example, in prawn cocktails. I note that the article for Russian dressing appears to describe something almost identical; now, I have never heard the term "Russian dressing" used in the UK, nor the term "fry sauce" - is there really any difference or are they just synonyms for the same basic dressing of mayonnaise and ketchup with a few herbs and spices added? Would it be worthwhile merging (with redirects) all articles under one heading (preferably Thousand Island dressing) for the basic recipe, and just listing them as alternative terms with slight ingredient variations? DWaterson 19:15, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It may vary by region, but in my experience Thousand Island dressing is sweeter (having sweet relish and/or sugars added) while Fry Sauce has less added (often just dill pickle juice, giving it a different flavor and making it smoother.) This seems to be a larger difference than the largely identical Russian Dressing... ? Utahgamer (talk) 17:27, 7 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm a Brit, and I haven't ever heard "Marie Rose sauce" used as a synonym for Thousand Island. Marie Rose is a basic mix of tomato ketchup and mayo, in my experience, and is served with prawns or other seafood, especially in cocktails. Thousand Island is different in that it has all the chopped-up bits of pickle, pepper etc added. It is served with burgers, or salads (esp. from 'Make Your Own' salad bars). I've never seen Russian Dressing in the UK. I don't think I've seen Fry Sauce, but I do often see Burger Sauce, which is presumably similar - a cheaper, sweeter, smoother version of Marie Rose - perhaps it's ketchup and Salad Cream or something? Burger Sauce is more orange than the rich pink of Marie Rose sauce.Pitt the elder (talk) 11:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Relationship to Marie Rose sauce, [[Russian dressing]], and "[[Fry sauce]]"

message: Is it just me, or does the final section of this article simply become a giant advertisement for various fast food corporations.  This would seem to be inappropriate for an encyclopedia.
: I agree. Rlitwin (talk) 12:52, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: When I read this entry I thought how unprofessional the entry regarding a particular chain's use of the dressing was.  Why not put each and every chain that ever used the dressing?  It looks like the author is little more than a shill for the In and Out Burger Corporation (or whatever the name of it is).  I lived in Texas for 20 years and never saw the franchise.  This section clearly needs to be removed....
110.164.237.165 (talk) 08:26, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ad? 

message: I'm not sure if this warrants special mention for HK's Pizza Huts.  In Pizza Hut's outlets in New Zealand (and presumably Australia) Thousand Island dressing (or something similar) is used for swirling on many varieties of pizza as well. --JNZ 22:58, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pizza Hut in Hong Kong 

message: Kids in my school always mix ketchup and mayo together and stir it until it's pink, earning it the nickname pink sauce by the kids. Should that go on the page? 68.196.8.115 (talk) 17:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What you seem to be describing is fry sauce. Utahgamer (talk) 17:21, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So far as I have heard for the past 23 years 1000 island is defined only by the ketchup and mayonaise rest being optional --71.131.30.178 (talk) 06:08, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cafeteria 

message: Per several comments above, I have moved the following passage from the article to here for discussion:
:At In-N-Out Burger, all burgers come standard with their version of Thousand Island dressing, referred to as "spread"; "Animal Style" fries come with Thousand Island dressing in addition to grilled onions and melted cheese.Beverland, Michael (2009). Building Brand Authenticity: 7 Habits of Iconic Brands, p. 187 Palgrave Macmillan, 
Use by various franchises and chains should probably be more comprehensive and sourced properly before being added back to the article. Jokestress (talk) 16:53, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use by specific franchises 

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thread_title: File:One US pint of thousand island dressing.JPG Nominated for Deletion

message: I thought the key ingredient in Thousand Islands was something FISHY?!  Why do all the commercial brands list "caviar roe" among the ingredients?
If this is not so important (gauging by the fact that it's not even mentioned in the article!), what then distinguishes Thousand Islands from Russian?  To say it is a "variant" is all fine and dandy, but what is the KEY DIFFERENCE?! 66.105.218.3 (talk) 03:56, 9 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a published source for these claims? I didn't see any books that mention fish roe. The article states that this dressing typically contains chopped items that comprise the distinction between this and Russian dressing. Jokestress (talk) 23:36, 29 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roe Roe Roe your Boat 

message: Recently, I have seen vast improvements in this article in that most of the dubious citations have been removed and replaced with higher quality references, like an academic paper and some serious newspaper articles.  Is this article getting close to the point in which it can be submitted to external review and advance to a higher classification?
1) Can all claims made in this article be supported by reputable references that could be accessed by any reviewer?  Has anyone bothered to read the existing references?
2) Has all the information that could be gathered about its hazy origins been incorporated at this point?  Are there any other plausible theories that still needs to be investigated?
3) There are 2 references in the article that are not available online.  Has anyone actually looked at them? Does anyone has access to the The Oregon Countryman?  If not, I suggest replacing this reference.
What would it take to get this article to the point in which it could be mentioned on the front page of WP?     50.195.224.153 (talk) 01:48, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this article good enough to be submitted to review and be reclassified? 

message: The simplest preparation of Thousand Island Dressing is mayonnaise, ketchup, and pickle relish. (Mayonnaise and ketchup is French dressing, and adding more ketchup gives Russian dressing. Mayonnaise and Relish alone is tarter sauce.) Drsruli (talk) 04:42, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Secret Lives of Dressings 

message: I have inserted two citation needed tags for the Uses section of the main article. The reason being is because the citations given appear to be blogs, and therefore are questionable for use as references, and are probably inappropriate within the context of an objective and encyclopedic tone. 108.235.248.227 (talk) 23:34, 15 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment: The author of the Serious Eats article is J. Kenji López-Alt, a noted chef and food writer. As for the other citation in question, Food & Wine is a magazine that appears to have editorial control and not is not listed on any of WP blacklists. Although the section itself needs better copy editing, it is my opinion that the citations in questions are ok. -- 108.71.214.235 (talk) 06:02, 2 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed them, as I agree that the citations are reliable and sufficient. Plus, that would not be the correct tag to use anyway, as that is for when there is no citation at all. oknazevad (talk) 21:26, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Insert citation needed tags