Talk:PlayStation 3/Archive 6

message: Although 23 March is as correct as March 23 (I use 23 March myself in spanish), per date guidelines: Use consistent date formatting throughout an article, unless there's a good reason to vary it. So, either use the day month or month day format throughout the entire article. Remember that casual readers don't have a preference set, and finding both types of dates in a single article may confuse them. -- ReyBrujo 03:46, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  23 March or March 23 

message: I quote GamesIndustry article (fifth paragraph) :
With the launch of the next-generation console in November, which it is widely expected Sony will sell at a loss for at least the first year, the company is expecting to post a loss during the current fiscal year of approximately YEN 100 billion (EURO 697 million), although post-launch costs for the units are expected to be drastically reduced.
I believe it is a good piece for the article. -- ReyBrujo 18:49, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Totally meaningless and useless info, with no grounds in any known fact  (70.71.162.88 01:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Read the article please, the numbers have been posted by Sony itself. If they don't know... -- ReyBrujo 03:46, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Initial losses 

message: The article states that 'Estimates by game developers put the number of PS and PS2 titles that have passed the TRC to be around 50-85%.'. Speaking as a game developer, this is a peculiar statement and both the Wikipedia article and linked article are misleading, the Wikipedia article moreso. *EVERY* game released on PS1/PS2 has to pass Sony testing, with Sony's technical requirements specified in form of the TRC. Ultimately Sony manufacture the copy-protected discs, and can (and do) reject games if they do not meet quality or technical requirements - schedules often allow for multiple submissions to Sony before setting a planned release date. Incompatibilities in the emulation are more likely to arise because Sony or internal testing *didn't catch* violations of the TRC, rather than they did not pass at all. With the costs involved with a submission to Sony (successful or otherwise), few would make one knowing that they fragrantly disregard the TRC. --82.39.14.169 20:50, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I understand, all released PS and PS2 games have passed the TRC. Now, I believe the article was referring that they are retesting the requirements on the released games in order to build a compatibility list, using the emulator as new console. However, in this case, it is backwards: instead of the game developers having to modify the games in order to comply with the TRC, it is Sony that is now modifying the emulator to make the game pass the test. Anyways, thanks for the clarification, it will surely help non technical people. -- ReyBrujo 21:10, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed 'will' to 'should' in the intro - does this solve this problem for now?HappyVR 17:41, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Backwards compatibility

message: Not sure where the 400MHz figure for memory is coming from? - also not sure how this can match quoted bandwidth? Also memory subsection is incorrectly worded as it stands.HappyVR 11:05, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My mistake, I have now reverted it to your version.  Dionyseus 11:42, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Memory

message: I removed the region code table - is this for blu ray or dvd - it seems wrong for blu ray - however I put a hyper-link to the blu ray article.
This is what I removed:
Region code	Area
1          	North America, Central America, South America.
2          	Europe,Japan  and Africa
3          	China, Russia, India, Pakistan and all other countries.
HappyVR 12:42, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Blu ray

message: What happen to the front starting picture of this article? The owning picture? The picture of ps3 with white background.
Infact they changed all official white background console pictures with Wiki editor own made pictures.
Why!?
:>x<ino 19:19, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably just to be extra safe against a copyright infringement.  20:13, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: The Dual-tilt 3 (no SHOCK, anymore) controller only has lights for up to four controller ports. This conflicts with the previously announced fact that the PS3 was supposed to support up to 7 controllers. Whoopsies? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Masamunecyrus (talk • contribs) .
:: Watch the press conference in the beginning the "7 controllers" are there. I don't know how thi is work.. but the information was presented again at this night. --Ragnarok Addict 04:06, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: >x<ino 11:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SEVEN controllers? 

message: Those with ears shall hear;
http://revolution.ign.com/articles/705/705870p1.html
"The technology inside Sony's controller is a basic tilting accelerometer device. In a sense, 
that's the same style of control as the left hand of the Wii combination. Think of the technology as 
true 3D movement vs. basic tilt. The Wiimote will sense all pointing, motion and a new dimension of 
control, while the PS3 controller will expand only on the specific tilt functions."
Fanboys, get it through your heads, this is not the same tech, PS3's controller is a lot more basic and doesn't allow 
the features that make Wii's controller "revolutionary". Put it to rest for pete's sake! Tani unit 03:53, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: >x<ino 13:03, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii's Controller Controversy 

message: :: This slideshow was presented this night by SONY. The 7 players capability are being keeped according to Kaz Hirai.  --Ragnarok Addict 04:21, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay, SONY wrong and the slide presented by they on yesterday is completely false. --Ragnarok Addict 10:26, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Has it ever occured to you that perhaps they just didn't put 7 leds on the controller because most likely only a few games will support it and in that instances you'll survive without visible feedback? 82.135.15.28 21:11, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  7 controllers/4 controllers issue 

message: When mentioning information released during E3, it should be said which year. The old entries from 2005 and new from 2006 should be edited. demo 09:32, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  E3 2005 vs 2006 

message: I work in Japan and there was just a news post saying that the PS3 will cost 59800 yen which is $USD 536.32 . Heres the source in Japanese. PS3 to cost 59800yen
Thats not to say the price wont be different- I find a lot of things out here cost more. But its a pretty solid number to go by, incase someone could update the main page with this information ASAP. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.248.61.99 (talk • contribs) .
:As stated in GAF, the 60GB version is being preordered at 75390 yen, around USD 676  -- ReyBrujo 19:57, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cost (recent news 5/9/2006)

message: http://sony.gamerfeed.com/gf/news/4815/ somebody add this in about the controller, Sony had thought of the idea for the motion controller YEARS before nintendo's wii. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.142.130.46 (talk • contribs) .
:Edit: Did it myself, I felt this was vital and will help quench the whole blaze of forum/nintendo debate of all this senseless "Copycating", at least a little. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dream Rurouni (talk • contribs) .
::This mentions only using camera technology to track motion, nothing about a motion sensing handheld device. Xnolanx 01:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: These links indicate that the dual shake may have been a recent http://www.joystiq.com/2006/05/09/dual-shake-functionality-tacked-on-at-last-minute/ 
http://sickr.wordpress.com/2006/05/11/sony-reveal-dual-shock-features-at-the-last-minute/
Spastastic 06:33, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Controller

message: I'm wondering if the PS2 Dualshock can be used on the PS3?  The motion sensor thing looks cool for Warhawk, but I doubt most games would use motion sensing technology, so I'd like some rumble.  Anyone know if PS2 controllers would work on the PS3?  Dionyseus 12:18, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: >x<ino 12:21, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Rumble is so last generation. But seriously, I doubt developers will even bother adding rumble capabilities to their games anyway. Optichan 15:52, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can PS2 controllers be used on the PS3? 

message: Lol owning day:P
*Sony's been playing some hardcore gangsta rap: we note this because Nintendo would never, ever play that music.  The rap song (which we failed to identify) was followed by Michael Jackson's "Billy Jean." The music is eclectic, we're hoping the games line up is similarly so.
That's right! Sony also rememberd that there are blAck gamers out there, and most of them are nearly there fAn:P
*In 3 years...over 100 million units soldWhen ps2 was released, it didn't do to well...Later people started to buy it. Made some pretty good sales, Sony reduced the price to 100pounds. Yes after doing that it surpasses xbox & gamecube. The worst of all....releasing the PS2 Reborn, made Sony over sold over 100 million units. Owning console:P
*The RSS channel and Macromedia Flash support. Later we plan to add RSS video, GPS, and VoIP." PSP will include "Memory Stick Boot," voice over IP, network support this winter via firmware updatesDAMM! Owning Handheld! Nintendo better come up with something killingful!
*Blu-Ray slide -- obligatory comparison showing how the Blu-Ray disc just destroys other discs in the category of storage. It didn't just destory other disc..it Gangbanged them!
*Phil Harrison: "The next demonstartion is actually an interesting combination of three different things. The first is a traditional card based game. Added to that is the power of the PS3." The Eye of Judgment. A card game using the EyeToy. He's sticking his hand under a camera and moving a card from spot to spot -- as he moves the card, the monster hovering over it also moves.
Wasn't this device the same one they showed at GadgetShow? Where you move some mini objects around an interactive table with motion senors.
*The e-distribution of PLayStation connect playable on the PSP. PSP users will be able to enjot the PS titles Spelling mistakes:/
*You'll be able to download these older titles to a memory stick and run them on the PSP. We have a PSP running one of the first PlayStation titles that was released... [navigiating to the game] ... [loading] ... let's see if you can guess the title ..."
"The game is powered by Namco ... it's Ridge Racer! Ahh! This brings back memories ... Just to show you, since its running on a PSP, you can change the screen size."
Another exciting ability is for consumers to make mircotransactions. We will be selling a pre-paid card in various denomination." This is exciting, but there's a little bit of manufactured excitement in this: Ridge Racer will never hold the emotional attachment for gamers that Mario will, and it appears at this moment that Kaz is trying just a bit too hard to talk about how exciting it is to play a really old version of Ridge Racer. "We will be selling a pre-paid card called 'The PlayStation Card' sold in varying demonimations."
Oh my g0d! It is like Revolution having the ability to download old classical games...OWNING! Nintendo better come up with something better!
*"My Singstar online" -- this is allowing you to develop your own profile, to find out who is online, download new content (skins, graphical effects) to personalize your experience, and to add your performances to the network. YouTube bootycams on the PS3. That's the headline right there, folks. It'll be hot if Sony can actually deliver anything nearly as addictive as a late-night romp through YouTube's most popular videos.Oh days! Its like xbox console skin changer. YOU TUBE!
*5:59 - AFRIKA: a grazing rhino, birds chattering noisily in a tree, a giraffe, zebra, wildebeasts, all sorts of other animals we should know, but don't. Lol...this people do act like me:P they spelled Afrika the same way i do:P
*20GB for $499, 60GB for $599.In UK it will cost: 20GB 399pounds and 60GB  500pounds
That's about it...when I get home I will watch Sony's conference and Nintendo
:>x<ino 12:47, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Just remembering.. Wikipedia is not a gaming forum. --Ragnarok Addict 12:51, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. All of this seems to be "OMFG, Nintendo is PWNED!!! LOLOMGWTFBBQ". --Thaddius 16:11, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PS3 Conference 

message: is what it says in the area about the rsx.
shouldent it be 256 Mb?
-- matjet 18:30, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 512 Mb graphics memory

message: "The PS3 will launch November 11 in Japan and seven days later in the United States, Australia and Europe, Sony officials said at a news conference."
20 GB model: $799 AUSD
60 GB model: $999 AUSD
Source: http://www.smh.com.au/news/breaking/playstation-3-out-in-november/2006/05/09/1146940522183.html
Synystar 13:55, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australian Prices, Release Dates 

message: Change it back to the old one, where the black PS3 is shown with the new PS3 gyroscopic controller. --63.208.17.115 14:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed.  Dionyseus 14:06, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

text: The policy is clear. Allowing the use of a Fair use image when there is a free alternative would set a very bad precedent for the current Fair Use policy. We appreciate your comment, but Wikipedia can't just have some luxuries. -- ReyBrujo 15:19, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Posted this a little earlier- I took the free image provided and cropped the outdated controller out of it . That should satisfy those who say the older free image is outdated. I think at the moment it's the best we can do- it provides accurate information while still retaining its "freeness". What do you think? Daniel Davis 17:18, 9 May 2006 (UTC)

text: It's an improvement.  Would be even better if the Dualshock 3 controller is pasted in somehow.  Dionyseus 18:28, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  We are consensus here.. or not? Back with updated black PS3 with the new controller. --Ragnarok Addict 00:44, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it seems it is simple. The old image without the control that Daniel suggested, or none. -- ReyBrujo 02:09, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

text: >x<ino 01:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headline Picture 

message: I got a link to help out as a source. It is not as simple as 20 and 60 gig.
http://ps3.ign.com/articles/705/705887p1.html JONJONAUG 19:22, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I kind of feel bad for being a 360 fanboy and slamming Sony lately, so I decided to make it up to the Playstation community by adding a "Retail Configurations and Pricing" section, using the formatting from the 360's page. It needs some work, but it's a start. Edited the intro a bit to reduce redundancy.gspawn 15:14, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yargh! Some reverting around my addition caused me to lose content. Just re-adding it to keep a full history of whatever's going on. gspawn 15:19, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparision needed between Core and Full System 

message: The article explains that the controller responds to translational movement. I thought it was merely a tilt sensor.Agent_Koopa 02:33, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: >x<ino 03:01, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, to put it another way, it's sort of like a 3D mouse, but the wiimote is sort of like a stylus - it knows where it is, not just how fast it's moving. 216.221.88.108 03:29, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Er...what? 

message: I'm wondering if Linux will still come preinstalled on the PS3? One part of the article says:
:"Hard Drive: Standard 60 GB, 2.5", detachable/upgradeable, with Linux pre-installed."
While another says:
:"According to DevStation Conference, the PS3 will use the Cross Media Bar (CMB) already used in the PlayStation Portable and PSX devices. On the E3 2006, Sony presented the "Marketplace" were players can buy and download music, have a profile and act in karaoke's in a service called "SingStar"."
Does this mean that the Linux preinstalled will only be the kernel used to run CMB, or will it include a full Linux Distribution, or not even have Linux at all! 68.183.43.191 22:46, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I sure hope that the PS3 comes with a full Linux distribution, because that might be the only thing that would convince people to pay $500-600 for a game system! 207.233.77.212 18:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: LINUX???

message: According to a interview with Eurogamer/GamesIndustry.biz, Phil Harrison stated they have been thinking about this kind of functionality since 1994, but never implemented it due technical reasons. He states that, while they did not copy Wii's controller, they were encouraged by the good feedback it got:
When asked if Sony had been influenced by the positive response Nintendo received after unveiling the Wii remote, Harrison replied: "I think that some of the research that we've done, clearly other companies have been doing as well - so there's nothing completely surprising about that.
[...]
However, Harrison went on to concede, "We didn't start the wave, but we've kind of jumped onto that wave.
I believe this could be included in the article. Also, it would be nice to state that developers were told (or at least, given) the "new" controller two weeks before E3 2006. -- ReyBrujo 11:52, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "they have been thinking about this kind of functionality since 1994, but never implemented it due technical reasons" riiiight.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 02:51, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did not copy Wii controller, but were encouraged by it 

message: I though they said the PS3 Name logo was gotten of Spiderman movie, which means ps3 will feature some exclusive Spiderman games...
:>x<ino 13:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sony owns the license for the Spider-Man movies and many bits surrounding it, including the movie's official font. This same font was used for the PS3's logo. This hasn't changed since the last Spider-Man movie titles went multiplatform. 172.149.41.65 14:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ps3 games 

message: The controller doesnt shock anymore should it be like Dual Tilt or somthin now?Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 02:55, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dual Shock No More 

message: Wait, if the 20gb version doesn't have a memory card reader, how the hell are you supposed to save your games!?
:Using the hard drive? Duh.... --M1ss1ontomars2k4 04:56, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Memory reader