Talk:Meher Baba/Archive 3

message: Someone removed the recent addition of  Category:Self-declared messiahs. This categorization is reasonable, and adds value. Why was it removed? Unless there is a good reason for the reversion, I will restore it. --Nemonoman 16:21, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ...Baba proclaims his Avatarhood...--Nemonoman 14:59, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

text: If you try to put Jesus in Cateogry Self-declared messiahs don't be surprised what happens. It will be instantly removed as it has been in the past. This is because, while Jesus is considered to have proclaimed his own divinity, it is additionally argued that the appearance of the magi at his birth and the words of John the Baptist corroborated this before he did, thus he is not listed as a "self-declared" messiah. Yet Jesus does appear in the List of messiah claimants along with Meher Baba. In the case of Meher Baba it says in the first paragraph of the main article that Sai Baba declared Baba in his own terminology before Baba did also later, much in the manner of Jesus. This puts Meher Baba in a different class from Jim Jones and David Korish, Sun Myung Moon and others who populate the category in question. All those in that category attain all their authority from their own declarations without corroboration or parampara. Please examine who is in this cateogory and who is not and ask yourself why. Also, I see no sign that the editors on this site are the "emotional bunch" that some would propagate and find this a bit insulting. See http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:CRKingston&diff=prev&oldid=96565932 There is more than one contributor to this site that can think. Abronkeeler 22:15, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-declared messiahs 

message: I went ahead and archived the first part of this page as per Wikipedia's suggestions on discussion page length. See top of page for archive link. Cott12 Talk 21:03, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Talk Page Archive 

message: The Meher Baba Dutch language article just achieved FA status. You can see the star on the top right of that article designating this. Much gratitude to the hard work and perseverance of Frankly speaking. Cott12 Talk 23:38, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just in case anyone's interested 

message: I see no reason not to pass this article for GA status. It meets all requirements. Passed. Da54 23:21, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA 

message: I take issue with the opening sentence: "Meher Baba, born Merwan Sheriar Irani (February 25, 1894 – January 31, 1969), was an Indian spiritual master." What are the exact requirements to be considered a spiritual master?! I think a far more appropriate term for him would be a spiritual teacher, guru, or spiritual leader. 'Spiritual master', especially in the first sentence, gives an implied sense of authority to a man who does not have such authority. This article is clearly heavily policed by devoted followers of this guru. Algabal 10:43, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. The change from "guru" to "spiritual master" was made by Liam7 who's 4 sockpuppets have all since been permanently blocked by administrators. See his change here: . I took the liberty of reverting it to the way it was before. Cott12 Talk 14:31, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Indian Spiritual Master?

message: Meher Baba, born Merwan Sheriar Irani (February 25, 1894 – January 31, 1969), was an Indian guru who achieved international noteriety for his essays on spirituality, and for his claim that he was [[Avatar|god in human form]. Despite a vow of silence, he travelled extensively, gathering many followers who tried to live accoring to his most famous admonition: "Don't Worry, Be Happy".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nemonoman (talk • contribs) 13:03, August 26, 2007 (UTC) 
:great start!
:perhaps better: 
::... received international attention for his essays on spirituality, and for his claim that he was an avatar, that is, a divine aspect in human form
:or alternatively: 
::... achieved fame for ... essays ..., and notoriety for ... claim ...
:aside from this and minor spelling issues, a great lead. Any other suggestions? -- Fullstop 14:56, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead Attempt: