Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Constellations

message: The table template for cut-and-paste
: Caid Raspa 11:30 15 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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<table border="1" align="right" width="330">
<tr><td align=center colspan=2 bgcolor=silver><font size="+1">Constellation Name</font></td></tr>
<tr><td align=center colspan=2>Small map<br>Link to larger version (link to description page)</td></tr>
<tr><td>Abbreviation</td><td>XXX</td></tr>
<tr><td>[[Genitive]]</td><td>Xxxxx</td></tr>
<tr><td>Meaning in English</td><td>Xxxxx</td></tr>
<tr><td>[[Right ascension]]</td><td>xxx h</td></tr>
<tr><td>[[Declination]]</td><td>xxx°</td></tr>
<tr><td>Visible to latitude</td><td>Between x° and x°</td></tr>
<tr><td>On [[meridian]]</td><td>9 p.m., xxx</td></tr>
<tr><td>Area<br> - Total</td><td>[[List of constellations by area|Ranked xth]]<br>xxx sq. deg.</td></tr>
<tr><td>Number of stars with<br>[[apparent magnitude]] < 3</td><td>xxx</td>
<tr><td>Brightest star<br> - Apparent magnitude</td><td>xxx<br>xxx</td></tr>
<tr><td>[[Meteor shower]]s</td><td>
*xxx</td></tr>
<tr><td>Bordering constellations</td>
<td>
*</td></tr>
</table>

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Hi there! Here's a summary of some questions and suggestions concerning the tables. I believe that it would be good if we you could find agreement on all of these issues and then include them in the page of this project (WikiProject_Constellations). So please vote/comment on this! CalRis 08:51, 4 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea. I will add it to all the tables. --Lorenzarius 18:43, 2 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tables 

message: I've prepared the following charts: Big Bear,
Orion,
Lion,
Berenice's Hair,
Monoceros,
Cetus,
Taurus, and
Ara. --Torsten Bronger 13:29 Feb 15, 2003 (UTC)
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The map of Ursa Major shows only the big dipper, can you change so that the whole constellation is displayed? Also if the maps are too wide then they can't be placed next to the table (just like the map of Cetus), I think a width around 440 will be good. --Lorenzarius 11:32 Feb 16, 2003 (UTC)
:I've updated Ursa Major, now with bigger area and latin names.  Cetus will follow, probably yet today.  Unfortunately we now haven't the same scale for all images anymore.  But this wouldn't be possible anyway. -- Torsten Bronger 15:50 Feb 16, 2003 (UTC)
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New maps: Cygnus, Aries, Gemini, and Cancer.  I've scaled down Cetus, and replaced all constellation names with their Latin translations in all bitmaps. -- Torsten Bronger 11:49 Feb 18, 2003 (UTC)
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I uploaded a map for Cassiopeia, but didn't include it.  (Whoever creates the thumbnails will have to do that.) -- Torsten Bronger 13:00 Apr 12, 2003 (UTC)
:OK thanks, but what is the difference between "Image:Cassiopeia_constellation_map.png" & "Image:Cassiopeia_constellation_drawing.png"? -- looxix 13:05 Apr 12, 2003 (UTC)
::No difference so far.  I just named the file wrongly.  The _drawing suffix is used for artistic drawings that show the constellation.  But an ordinary user like me cannot undo wrong uploads. -- Torsten Bronger
Well, actually the Leo template calls smaller versions _small, not _thumb (see above).  And I really want the downscaling to be done like this: Promote to 24bit colour depth (RGB) --> downscale to 0.7 --> index to 256 colours without dithering --> save as PNG.  At least the first step is missing in your thumbnails. Some labels are unreadable now.
:Humm, I see, for example the label 'Antares' in Scorpius in screwed.
:I tried to first promote to 24-bit, it doesn't change anything! what I propose is , for the moment, to leave these thumbnails as they are, after all they are just thumbnails; those interested in more detailed information will probably try the full image anyway.
BTW I restored the old Sagittarius map.  (This process of deleting and restoring of old image versions is very stange in Wikipedia I think.) -- Torsten Bronger
The CMa map is wider than 300px and thus a candidate for a thumbnail, too.
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New maps: Corvus, Perseus, Auriga, Canes Venatici, Ursa Minor, Vulpecula, and Aquila.  BTW, what happened to the Capricornus map? -- Torsten Bronger 18:39 May 8, 2003 (UTC)
:Done, including the restoration of Capricornus map. Thanks. -- Looxix 19:19 May 8, 2003 (UTC)
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I did the following:
* Uploaded much nicer thumbnails,
* named all thumbnails ..._map_small.png,
* added new thumbnails for a couple of constallations that hadn't have one,
* changed map names containing `maior' to `major',
* redirected all thumbnail descriptions to the main description, and
* flagged all ..._thumb.png and other superfluous maps (i.e. the `maior's and one filename misspelling) for deletion.
-- Torsten Bronger 09:49, 5 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Specific constallations, updates 

message: I have noticed that all the sky maps have north at the top. We also need maps with south at the top to counter systemic bias. It makes sense to have maps in both orientations because the northern hemisphere orientation is not the only one that's possible. I live in the southern hemisphere and I cannot stand on my head when viewing the night sky for medical reasons. Even in the northern hemisphere an alternative map with south at the top would be useful when viewing certain circumpolar constellations at culmination like Cassiopeia.
-- <SPAN STYLE="font-family:monospace; color:#006666; background-color:#ffffcc; border:1px solid #ff0000;"> B.d.mills </SPAN> (T, C) 02:27, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Maps with south at top

message: Ive changed all the constellations to the nice wiki table style. --Rony P Q H Taril 22:22, 25 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  just a note 

message: I've just tidied up some constellation articles within category Constellations (so that they sit within their own subcateg within categ Constellations). I'd like to assist further. It appears to me that there is currently categs Constellations - which contains any constellation ever - and subcateg Modern constellations - which contains the currently authorised 88 constellations. Does it not make sense to try to move to a situation with: Categ Constellations containing the currently authorised 88 constellations and a subcateg Former / Ancient Constellations (or similar name) containing former or superseded constellations? If I were an average Wiki surfer looking for details of a constellation, would I think of looking for a subcateg Modern constellations within categ Constellations for up-to-date information? I would have thought that the categ Constellations and subcateg Former constellations described the situation correctly. Comments, please Ian Cairns 01:51, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Big picture

message: I recently updated all 88 constellations so that the month of best visibility for each constellation matched the date of culmination at 9 pm given in the 1973 edition of Norton's Sky Atlas. I have only just discovered this Wikiproject and I would like to make additional contributions to the standardisation project. -- <SPAN STYLE="font-family:monospace; color:#006666; background-color:#ffffcc; border:1px solid #ff0000;"> B.d.mills </SPAN> (T, C) 02:12, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Calculation of "Best visible"

message: Asteroid deflection strategies has been nominated on WP:IDRIVE. Support it with your vote if you want it to be improved.--Fenice 22:45, 29 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Improvement drive

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thread_title:  Articles for the Wikipedia 1.0 project 

message: The Nakshatras are the constellations according to Indian astronomy. The article is in pathetic shape. I think it would be great if the article could be improved through this wikiproject. Any help would be very highly appreciated. deeptrivia (talk) 06:09, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Nakshatra]]s 

message: Does anyone here support this Wikipedia:Barnstar_and_award_proposals#Barnstar_of_Constellations? --evrik 14:31, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Award

message: I just want you all to know that there is a current discussion on a Constellation Barnstar right here. Since it has not reached consensus yet, I would appreciate it if you could give us a second opinion.--Ed 13:37, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just so you'll know 

message: Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory.  This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.  B2T2 23:30, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project directory 

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:See Wikipedia talk:Version 1.0 Editorial Team#Stablepedia. If you wish to comment, please comment there. ★MESSEDROCKER★ 03:30, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stablepedia 

message: I have made a complex request to move Draco (on the ancient Athenian) to Draco (lawgiver) and Draco (disambiguation) to Draco.  In my opinion, more people are probably going to be looking for the constellation (or possibly a fictional character such as Draco Malfoy) than the Athenian.  I think this move has been overdue.  Please cast a vote if you are interested.  Dr. Submillimeter 10:00, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Draco move has been approved and completed.  All disambiguation of Draco (lawgiver) have been fixed.  There are probably still disambiguations of Draco (constellation) that require fixing. —Doug Bell talk 11:16, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Complex Draco move 

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention.  Badbilltucker 16:49, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: Is this WikiProject still active? If not, then I plan on merging it into Wikipedia:WikiProject Astronomical objects sometime in the nearish future.
Additionally, I have recently refreshed Template:Infobox Constellation, mainly making formatting changes. Mike Peel 22:51, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm active regarding constellations, but I've been writing and proposing in Wikipedia:WikiProject Astronomical objects. In Wikipedia:WikiProject Astronomical objects we're also discussing wikiprojects and portals, and I'm interested in how the newbies (and us other) are going to find the relevant discussion. Merging is probably OK. Rursus 11:26, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm for merging. It seems that this project has served its purpose. Lunokhod 13:21, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this WikiProject still active? 

message: E.g. Aries (constellation)#Graphic visualization. Source: User talk:AugPi/Archive 1#Sources for alternative constellations?.
I don't think these are notable enough to be included, and naming the stars not in the book is too close to OR. A shame, because a lot of work went into it. If they are to be removed, I think we should give User:AugPi time to collect to move it to another site. -- Jeandré, 2007-03-11t11:43z
:I'm for removing them, but waiting till User:AugPi got the time for collecting them elsewhere. Besides being OR, they're not usable for amateur astronomers actually, and they don't adher to old star descriptions such as those in Almagest. Rursus 20:16, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternate graphic visualization.

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