Talk:Imperial Guard (Warhammer 40,000)

message: This article is INCREDIBLY overlong and contains a lot of spurious information. I think it needs pruning and cleanup. --Agamemnon2 12:40, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup needed 

message: This article is insipid, spelling out every single unit entry in the Imperial Guard Codex in a way that is not at all helpful to anyone not already familiar with the subject matter (to them, it is merely pointless). There is no real information being passed here, too little is done to elucidate the reader on what the Imperial Guard are, how they wage war, how they fit in the WH40k backstory, the current model range, etc. --Agamemnon2 15:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 10:06, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Complete Rewrite, nothing less 

message: I've had a crack at rewriting the article, simply by cutting out all the crap, reorganising the rest, and adding some bits from the "Why Collect An Imperial Guard Army?" section of Codex: Imperial Guard. Have a look and a play with it. Saberwyn - 03:16, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was move. —Nightstallion (?) 10:06, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Attempted Rewrite

message: Personally I think the novels section requires a little tidying. At the moment we have a long list of book that "feature" the Imperial Guard. I think that it should be split up into novels that are specifically about the Imperial Guard e.g Gaunt's Ghosts and books that simply feature them at some point e.g. the Einsenhorn Trilogy. -- Nayl 18:43, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Imperial Guard Books 

message: I have:
* An overall page of general guidelines
* A list that defines different types of articles on differt subjects
:* For Armies "Army Page"
:* For Technology "Technology Page" (equivalent to "Weapons, Vehicles, Equipment Page", or, "WVE page")
:* For Notable Planets "Notable Planet Page"
:* (User:Pak21 already made guidelones for notable characters, but a link to that is included)
* A statement of purpose for my guidelines
* Left room for more guidelines to come
--Nothing offical will be done with the guidelines (moved or put to use) until several Wikipedians involved in the Warhammer 40,000 project have verified it.--
Colonel Marksman's Proposed Guidelines
Colonel Marksman 20:57, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggested 40k Article Guidelines

message: Just wanted to add that I changed the 'men only' part of the IG summary to include women as well as changing 'fighting men' to 'fighting soldiers'.  It is well documented in the Gaunt's Ghost series that women fight in the IG too.  I also cite for proof page 27 of the Tyranid codex "Every able-bodied man and woman on every world in Ultima Segmentum, Segmentum Pacificus and Segmentum Solar will need to be drafted into the Imperial Guard if we are to have any chance of repelling this foe"
:Strictly, I don't think that last quote implies that women currently fight in the IG, but that it would be necessary for them to do so in order to defeat the Tyranids. That all said, I have no problem whatsoever with your edit! Cheers --Pak21 10:28, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Other examples of Women in the Guard already exist.  For example, the original 3rd ed IG codex includes the examples of "Rocket Girl" and "Warrior Woman" in the Schaeffers Last Chancers entry and in the "Famous Regiments" section there is an illustration of a "Xenonian Warrior Woman" implying that there are entire Woman only Imperial Guard Regiment.  Also, in the Index Imperial Guard article in WD284, the article on the Mortant 303rd "Acid Dogs" Regiment features an illustration of a female Veteran Sergeant.  Within the model line, aside from the Last Chancers special charcters, there are at least two female Guard figures currently available - a Tanith trooper and Catachan Special Weapons trooper - and there have been several others in the past, including a Female Commissar and some very early RT era metal Guardswomen.  Getztashida 14:24, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is also the example of the Commissar Cain novels, which reenforces the idea that in most cases the Guard uses gender segregation at the regimental level.  Many planets do however have one gender dominating the military (or at least its combat units), and this is usually the males (but not always by any means).--Darth Fanboy 19:48, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Force make up edit 

message: I'm slightly modifying the section on ranks, replacing Brigadier General with Brigadier (the rank is only used once to my knowledge in recent publications, in the Gaunt's Ghost books, and the British form is used).  I'm also adding a bit on NCOs--Darth Fanboy 21:03, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rank Structure

message: IMHO, while amusing, these don't belong here as they are original research. Shrumster 10:15, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stylistic Links 

message: This article is a mess! It not only lacks insurmountable loads of information and sources, but is giving individual units their own page! 
I don't think the individual units need to be having their own articles, ESPECIALLY if those articles are as small as they are. Colonel Marksman 00:58, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mess

message: Who has deleted the page of coronel-comissar gaunt?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.60.193.58 (talk) 09:50, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gaunt redirects here 

message: "A full guard platoon can boast up to 55 models, not counting independent characters, per troops choice" is an understatment, the platoon can take far more than 55 models, they can take 50 conscripts for one squad, the number is 132 in 5th edition guard, this is backed by Army Builder and the Codex.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreg102 (talk • contribs) 15:55, 19 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I do think gameplay information this specific isn't really appropriate in an encyclopedic entry. However, you're actually off. Maximum models without vehicles is 138. You can add Commissars to the Command Squad and the Infantry Squads. Adding Chimaeras to every squad that can bumps that up to 144. Shrumster (talk) 09:05, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

text: Attached Commissars aren't independent characters. :) Shrumster (talk) 12:21, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop Changing the gameplay over view section! 

message: I would like to create a new subsection which describe the myriad cultures found within the Guard, eg, Mordian Iron Guard, Tallarn Desert Raiders, D-99 etc. Also what would people think about adding information on the guard's predecessors to this page (most notably the Solar Auxilia) or are they worthy of their own pages. I would ask the same with regards to the Militarum Tempestus --Eralam (talk) 18:06, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding Guard Regiments 

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