Talk:Michael Everson/Archive 2

message: Readings of Michael Everson's name in Han characters	Readings of Michael Everson's name in Han characters
Name                                                	葉密豪
Tang                                                	*Iɛp Myit Hou
Mandarin                                            	Yè Mìháo
Cantonese                                           	Yihp Maht-hòuh
Taiwanese                                           	Ia̍p Bi̍t-hô
Hakka                                               	Yap8 Met8-hau2
Korean                                              	Yeop Milho (엽밀호)
Vietnamese                                          	Diệp Mật Hào
Japanese                                            	Hano Mitsugō
What about 傅埋刻 Fù Máikè: the grandmaster of arcane types? 傅 (Fù) is an established surname. – Kaihsu 21:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm. Interesting. Āi Fúsēn is just "Everson" and there are many of those (well, not so many, but some). You're suggesting going back to "familyname" + "Michael" which seems friendly enough. In 傅埋刻 Fù Máikè, the Máikè has different tones from the standard "Michael", Màikè. Is this a problem? For that matter, what about 符埋刻 Fú Máikè? I have not much sense for tone and don't know whether these sound felicitous or not. Evertype 21:54, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just reminded myself, after some web searches, that 符 (Fú) is also a surname, but not as populous. The tones are inconsequential in transliteration from English unless the result happens to map to something particularly non-felicitous. 符埋刻 is not particularly felicitous, but projects an image of someone steeped in studies and diligent ... for me at least.  – Kaihsu 20:50, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "符埋刻" in Taiwanese is "Hû Bâi-khek", I think. "傅埋刻" = "Pò͘ Bâi-khek".  I have checked this dictionary. – Kaihsu 17:17, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

text: This is certainly a way to enjoy using a Chinese dictionary. Candidate surnames are  孫 Sūn, 埃 Āi, 符 Fú, and 葉 Yè. I'm thinking about non-English versions of "Michael". What about 密豪 Mìháo, a bit like Irish Mícheál? Evertype 21:43, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting. Google shows a Lambert Schmithausen who has something to do with Sanskrit philosophical terminology; his name is written 史密豪生 Shìmìháoshēng. Evertype 22:04, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 密豪 for "Mícheál" is excellent.  I would advise against 埃 as a surname; any of the others will be nice: your pick! – Kaihsu 06:46, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: By the way, 密宗 = Vajrayana/tantra. – Kaihsu 06:51, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Etymologically, 豪 is from 高 + 豕 ~ tall pig ~ Old English "eofor" for "boar"? Given this, I do not know why 豪豬/豪猪 is the modern word for porcupine. The translated Taiwanese-Japanese dictionary insists 豪 is a surname. – Kaihsu 10:04, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

text: In a follow-up e-mail he says: "Mìháo 密豪 is the same in simplified and traditional. Yè 葉 has the ugly simplification to 叶, but if you don't like it then just keep the traditional form even in simplified Chinese -- you can do that with Unicode :-) and it's OK to ignore simplification rules for family names where the simplification simplifies to a different character (as in this case)." Evertype 09:38, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Explorations leading to the choice: 葉密豪 Yè&nbsp;Mìháo