Talk:Eden McCain

message: The description last modified by User:Primogen is good (current) description of her power, and needs no more major rewording or revisions at this time, IMO.  BTW, she did actually issue a command to die in the graphic novel- it was NOT a suggestion, as I noted earlier. --Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) 05:19, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Telling others no to edit something, even if it's not your work, seems a little OWN-ish to me. Also, her statement was a "wish", albeit a loud, authoritative one. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 19:06, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh, gee, I guess I forgot to check for opinions regarding the description first. :)  I *thought* I improved it someewhat. If you really think it's not improved, change it back. -- Kschang77 08:04, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There isn't really a consensus, that was just my opinion.  It hasn't been changed back so I assume that others agree.  Whatever the case, it isn't really that important.--Hypergeometric2F1(a,b,c,x) 09:07, 6 December 2006 (UTC)

text: isn't her power supposed to be "persuasion"?  mind control is relatively different from it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.167.121.141 (talk) 10:00, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Mind control is not infallible; "persuasion" is far too ambiguous. Anyone with decent people skills can "persuade" someone. Bending another to one's will in the Manner that Eden does is most definitely mind control, albeit in a weak form. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 21:52, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Description of her power

message: On Sylar's page it's indicated that Eden turned the gun on herself to prevent him from acquiring her abilities.  This is also the general consensus on the TWOP forum for this episode.  I think this should be reflected in Eden's article but I don't want to get into an edit war with someone who interpreted the events differently. Ozmodiar.x 04:27, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bio, this is not a forum. Please remember that. The graphical novel strongly implies that Eden's actions successfully prevented Sylar from stealing her powers. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 23:28, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Ok, sorry, I just haven't been able to see the graphical novel. I do not mean to offend. Bio 19:06, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, her brain could have become quite damaged if she shot herself in the head.  Now, back to your regularly-scheduled non-show-discussion topics.  --Psiphiorg 05:01, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did she shoot herself? 

message: I noticed that Sylar's voice was backed up with an echo in the episode "Distraction" while he was in Claire's house.  No one else on the show has demonstrated an echo besides Eden, so I believe we have reason to believe he may have absorbed her powers anyways.  Any information on this anywhere?  I seem to either have been the only one to notice this, or it's in my head (which is why I didn't add the possibility of him gaining her powers into the main page yet).
Pritchard 08:50, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is currently in discussion on Sylar's talk page and you may find more activity there. As a short response, an echo by itself doesn't mean much. Valaqil 18:05, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty sure that he does not have her abilities. For some reason, his voice takes a deeper tone when he uses some intense telekinesis. The same thing happened to Peter in Isaac's apartment before Simone was shot. 69.41.207.180 00:59, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sylar has Eden's powers now? 

message: I think this page should be merged into the List of Heroes characters with special abilities page because Eden was NEVER that significant to the plot, and it doesn't look like she's going to become significant now that she's been dead for several months (according to the show's timeline). The no erz (talk) 04:23, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the merge since article contains only in-universe information and in fact its a plot summary of the parts this character participates and nothing more. -- Magioladitis (talk) 14:03, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with the merge on the basis of "living in the moment" and doing things that are recent, rather than doing things that are encyclopedic.--Chrisisinchrist (talk) 22:46, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  article contains only in-universe information and in fact its a plot summary of the parts this character participates and nothing more is in fact a very strong argument for merging. It simply fails notability criteria. So please, stop reverting the merge. There is a Heroes wiki if you want to have a full length coverage and for there it will be appreciated. But not here. And as you mentioned some articles that have not been merged because the characters are still alive - they should be merged sooner or later. --Tone 08:11, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge?