Talk:Bibliography of the American Civil War

message: This page was linked in a discussion elsewhere, and I noticed this line at the start, "This is a selected, annotated list of the most useful titles." This probably needs rewriting, and the description needs to be clarified: who selected, annotated and decided on the contents of this page? And what is this page, is it an article about American Civil War bibliography or a new bibliography? If it is the former it needs references, it currently has one footnote. If it is a type of bibliography, then how does that accord with this document's (wikipedia) scope?    Cygnis insignis (talk) 11:37, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: is it selected? yes, there are tends of thousands of possible cites, as shown by a search at amazon.com or books.google.com or a university library catalog; who selects them? at Wiki all editors  pitch in, selects and annotates--subject of course to challenge from other editors. This is an article about how historians and writers have handled the Civil War. It could be structured in terms of a couple hundred footnotes, but the annotated bibliography is the usual format in most history books. (The annotations are just brief descriptions of the content -- I suppose grouping the books by topics could also be called annotation). I expanded the section on women's roles--a fast growing field. Rjensen (talk) 07:49, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  bibliography and scope 

message: Split - Unit histories, battles and campaigns should be split off due to size.  Thoughts???--Jax 0677 (talk) 16:43, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree better to split. Rjensen (talk) 19:20, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split page due to size? 

message: An impressive amount of work has gone into this article. It satisfies the notability criteria for lists, but as it stands it is original research because the works were selected mostly by two editors without any explicit selection criteria. Selection criteria are required for lists (see WP:LSC). Among the selection criteria I have seen:
#All books on the subject (not feasible here).
#Only those that have their own article or are demonstrably notable. There are only about 30 nonfiction books in :Category:American Civil War books.
#All of the content of a given published bibliography (would be a copyright violation).
#Each book appears in (say) three published bibliographies. I have seen this one used successfully (I forget where), and it might be the best choice for this bibliography.
RockMagnetist (talk) 18:45, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments on AfD 

message: I have tagged this article for lacking inclusion criteria. Also, since the members of the list are not independently notable, they should have sources demonstrating that they were taken from the published bibliographies. RockMagnetist (talk) 18:04, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry about my most recent revert. Somehow on first reading I didn't recognize the inclusion criteria in the changes. RockMagnetist (talk) 15:59, 30 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tags 

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message: It is commonly said, dispute it if you want, that John Brown did more than any other individual to bring on the Civil War. Yet he has only one book mentioned. There is a huge bibliography just on him and his raid. deisenbe (talk) 12:26, 10 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Brown 

message: Under "International Affairs," it does not appear that the first two books by Steve Sainlaude have been translated into English; rather, a Wikipedia editor may have translated their titles into English. (I just added the third book by Sainlaude, which has been translated.) I checked the Library of Congress catalog, Google Books, and amazon.com. If I am correct, then the first two titles should be changed to their original French or removed. Maurice Magnus (talk) 12:52, 2 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  International affairs