Talk:List of Punahou School alumni

message: Any objection to moving the images near the individuals they depict? -- Terry Carroll 20:32, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Image locations

message: As I mentioned on your talk page, I agree this looks much better, and thank you again for the section re-division with contents.  I want to keep the band of images on the main page as it gives a fair and a quick impression of the diversity of the Punahou population.  I do promise to come back and prune the scholars pages based on citation data (but ISI is more authoritative than scholar.google, and ISI takes more time to do).  
Thinking about why the list is long... well, of course I am being ridiculously thorough, and the standards are rising as I find more people (I am near the end of the L's in the 1991 alumni directory).  But really, the school is old, large, and encourages many paths (you can see clear military, athlete, politics, performer, and scholar tracks... there are others, and this is part of what distinguishes the school from eastern elite prep schools, which prefer very high level bankers, ambassadors, etc., but some do not have room for many artists and others do not produce a lot of athletes, etc.)  Furthermore, as I discovered on a Stanford page praising an early woman lawyer, Punahou has always expected as much from its women and minority populations as from its men and its majority populations.  Or that is what was claimed by Rhoda Lewis.  Since we can't list four Nobel prizewinners, three presidents, two billionaires, and a Hall of Famer, we end up with a long and diverse list if we want to paint an accurate picture.
RP Loui 10/16/07 -- how do I timestamp this?  User:Ronaldloui (at 16:14, October 16, 2007)
:Just be careful that you're not copying all of the directory that is your source document; you don't want to risk copyright infringement.  As long as you're using it as a source of information, and not copying its selection, coordination or arrangement, you should be okay.
:On the timestamp: it looks like you're signing with only three tildas (~~~), which just adds your name.  To timestamp, sign with four tildas (~~~~), which adds your name and a timestamp. If I misunderstand and you're actually typing in "User:Ronaldloui", you don't need to do that.  Just put in the four consecutive tildas and it will generate the username and timestamp for you. See WP:SIG#How to sign your posts for more info.  -- Terry Carroll 23:27, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Response

message: I see that an editor has come through and put many names in wikipedia-reference-brackets with full knowledge that there is no target page.  What is the policy or best practice on such names?  I've removed them in the past -- should all such names be in red?  This seems to draw undue attention to people who are sometimes, but not always, less interesting than those who have their own wikipedia pages. 04:31, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red-letter names 

message: All attendance claims are substantiated by the Alumni directory, except Coffey, as noted, and Watada, Camara, which come from wiki, and Linebarger, which comes from an online biographer.  So, for example, the "citation needed" for Sandy Plueger is for what?  the 1984 Olumpic dressage participation?  That's on her wikipedia page.  So it must be for her Punahou School attendance, which is in the alumni directory.  Unless you want me to cite this volume for each entry, we should remove some of these "citation needed" requests that simply contest whether the person went to Punahou.  If you want, I can include attendance dates for EVERYONE, not just for non-graduates.  That would seem to be overkill.  Ronaldloui 10:50, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations for Attendance

message: I can't seem to find anything on this person. Help! --Kukini  hablame aqui 19:06, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  H. Wells Lawrence  

message: Yeah, the new stub looks great.  Ideally, these references for the better candidates get moved to their own wikipedia pages.  Some really need their own page (I couldn't believe Teri Ann Linn does not yet have her own page!). Ronaldloui 19:43, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warch 

message: I see someone added a link to Reticker's obituary.  That's nice, but it could be done for a lot of people who have a single authoritative biographical source.  What should be the policy on using non-wikipedia URL's as linked text?  It's very nice, since you can just click.  On the other hand, it is a bit misleading.  I've been to pages where all the alumni are linked, giving the impression that all have wikipedia pages.  But that was just how they did their references/citations... Ronaldloui 20:14, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to non-wikipedia authoritative pages 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Shane62.jpg

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:BusterCrabbe 01.jpg

message: I removed the following:
*'29* Edwin D. Kilbourne, Jr. (UH) — founding chair of Microbiology at Mount Sinai School of Medicine, influenza pandemic expert at New York Medical College, Washington Post's "We don't have enough if a pandemic happened tomorrow." (attended 1921-28)Influenza Pandemics of the 20th Century | CDC EID (scholar.google best ~ 497)  This is not the Edwin D. Kilbourne who attended Punahou.  The one who did practiced general medicine in Saratoga and Los Gatos, CA
Based on the cited sources & this obituary: , the person described above has no connection with Hawaii, let alone Punahou.
Peaceray (talk) 00:16, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The wrong man 

message: Citation is not completely correct, not sure why extra 1 is showing and don't want to fix it until I break it. Back tomorrow  — Preceding unsigned comment added by BobDog54 (talk • contribs) 23:29, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  S. Pfleuger  

message: I think the content is great, but I have a few questions for the organization for the page. Under the "Other leading educators and researchers" section what exactly is the "Science" sub-section supposed to encompass? It sounds a bit vague considering there's a sub-section right below it for "Logic, philosophy, mathematics, computing and engineering" and I assume all of which are fields in STEM. On a side note, is there any particular order the sections are meant to be presented in? It begins with Olympic athletes and follows up with Professional athletes and then into doctors and so forth. At first I would guess a list like this would be ordered alphabetically, and if not, then notability.  But even the latter is not found in this case, or at least from my perspective. While Olympic athletes are definitely notable, wouldn't the alumni found in leadership positions be more well known to the general public? (Specifically, the "Civil rights leaders" and "Other elected representatives, government appointees, judges" sections.) Ntakamat (talk) 01:20, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Groupings within the List 

message: Really this listing is a clear case of WP:BOOSTERism. Every person that has the least bit of news about them is included in the listing. But are they WP:NOTABLE? A culling of this list is in order. (And to encourage editors to seriously look at this article I've revised the project assessments.)  – S. Rich (talk) 06:56, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-notable people