Talk:1. FC Kattowitz

message: According to "who's who des deutschen fussballs Deutsche Vereine seit 1903" by Harde Gruene the team's colours were white shirts and black shorts and they played at the Turngemeindeplatze with a capacity in 1941 of 35,000
:Thank you. (de: Danke) Wiggy! 19:06, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The club played from 1905 to 1945, not 1905 to 1939 (i.e. 1905-1921 + 1921-1939). The administration of the region is inferred from reading the article.
:The club played from 1905 to 1945 and 2007- (i.e. 1905-1922 in Germany + 1922-1939 in Poland + 1939-1945 in Germany + 2007-... in Poland). LUCPOL (talk) 11:29, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Dates and categories

message: the club was reactivated in 2007..and is playing in the season 2007/2008 in the second lowest league in Poland
http://90minut.pl/skarb.php?id_klub=4384&id_sezon=71
--84.142.227.49 14:25, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reactivated 

message: Lucpol, I have reverted your most recent edits because they took away the focus of the article from the historical German club and put it on a new, unknown, and unrelated modern day Polish club. Your edits unfortunately also introduced a number of language and style problems. I have left in place the addition of useful new information including the lists of honours and noteable players (under proper subheadings). Note that the long string of Polish language references was removed as not really being suitable for an English language article. Wiggy! (talk) 08:03, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: 1 edition - I adding new data and I did order the article. 2 edition - I changed on the real information. If there are grammatical/language errors please correct (only grammatical/language errors, no substantive content). I changed "External links" to "==References==" because he is not additional information, this is sources to text of article. LUCPOL (talk) 11:38, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Lucpol's recent edits

message: I've gone through my source materials and significantly expanded the article and clarified the timeline of events. A number of errors were corrected along the way (Hey look, some of them were mine!). All of this material is supported by references. There is now a separate link to an existing article on the modern day Polish club of the same name (where one might plant one's flag if one so wishes).
I have left LUCPOL's web references in place, although I note that some of them are on a pay-for-view site, so I don't know how useful they can be considered for most users (unless LUC wants to share his already paid for copies with the rest of us). Some of the references specifically discuss the historically split personality of the club and it's perception by some as German, by others as Silesian. If one bothers to read the article, I hope they would catch some sense of how difficult a period of history this was and how it affected even simple things like a football club.
Quite simply, the issue of the club's roots as an ethically-German side coloured almost its entire history and have even caused some controversy for the newly formed Polish club. It is inappropriate to whitewash that history in the name of some current-day petty nationalism - it won't change anything. Although it clearly still burns some people, what happened, happened and I've tried to put that forward simply and clearly here and support it with reliable source material. I'm really not interested in this sort of stuff  (which reads like it was written by the Care Bears) or in supporting the persistently POV approach of some editors who have a gift for finding themselves blocked repeatedly over this kind of nonsense. Peace out, dude. Wiggy! (talk) 03:29, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Latest update