Talk:Shining Force II

message: Added info about charcters and their abilities but found that it was removed; i was merely attempting to make the article more in-depth and imformative, and thought this article had been put forward for expansion anyway? Also, I was not using the game guide as a reference, but my own knowledge. Perhaps a spoilers warning in the character's section should be included, and also their abilities and where to find said characters. It is after all a encyclopedic article and there is onely one vague sentence describing each character. Discussion please Jimd (talk)
:Wikipedia doesn't use spoiler warnings.  There should be as little plot information in the characters section as possible, as having the info in the plot section and then the characters section again is redundant.Mr T (Based) (talk) 21:39, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Let's expand it.  If you look at featured articles like Final Fantasy VI, you'll notice a section for characters.  A basic description of each character would be great but was deleted before.  Why hold the article back?
(Ejoty (talk) 10:37, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article expansion? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Shining Force II.jpg

message: I've played the game, and after reading the article, I find most of it to be obvious and in no need of source. Isn't the game a source?  I don't really see what the author could have cited.  I cited my correction of the rare Japanese word "inishie" (古え), which was mistaken for "koe." What in particular needs citing?
(Ejoty (talk) 11:56, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If things were sources for themselves then we wouldn't need any references. Look! A bird eats worms! no source required! Readers should be able to verify the contents of this article without having to play the game. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 12:39, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Er... I thought the whole point of an encyclopedia is so that readers don't have to do their own in-depth investigations just to get basic information on a topic that they only have a minor interest in. And information on things such as gameplay is known to everyone making good faith edits to the game(because they've played the game), so there's hardly any risk that those sections of the article will become littered with false information. I don't see how references for such content serves any purpose beyond making the article look superficially professional.--Martin IIIa (talk) 05:17, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the plot and to a lesser extent the gameplay can be sourced directly to the game itself. That's not hard. But the kind of information we're really interested in, reception, development, and so forth (see Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction)) primarily comes from third party sources. The current "translation issues" section, as written, smacks of the kind of fan speculation that should be replaced with genuine research into reliable sources. Nifboy (talk) 06:22, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

text: Also, I wouldn't call an obscure translation-induced plothole to be "basic information". If you cut the section down to the basic, citable facts, you get: The English version names Dark Dragon, the final boss of SF1, as a Devil King where the Japanese version names Lucifer, a character who doesn't show up anywhere in the series. I don't understand how that changes anything at all other than a title. Nifboy (talk) 06:44, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I wasn't referring to the translation issues section; I don't know where you got that idea. The section wasn't even added until months after Ejoty's post. I'm moving the discussion of "translation issues" to a new section, since it doesn't belong in a discussion of unreferenced information.--Martin IIIa (talk) 17:03, 8 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  References or Sources? 

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