Talk:White movement

message: :They all link to dead sites  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.76.6.113 (talk) 00:14, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: The white army was not monarchist - the official ideology of it was liberalism. (See V.V.Kozhinov, Russia, XX century 1901-1939 http://www.hrono.ru/libris/kozhin20vek.html, this book is a must read for anyone who wishes to understand Russian history). With respect, Ko Soi IX 14:29, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Most of its officer corps, particularly in the east sector, were vehement monarchists. The deliberate ambiguity of the White movement was to not limit its appeal. I think its safe to assume that if the Whites had won, the Romanov's would have been restored even if only as Constitutional Monarchs. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.43.227.18 (talk) 04:55, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Let me repeat again - there might have been some monarchists in the White army, but they were underground, the ideology was that of liberalism. The White army is the child of the same forces that overthrew Romanov's in the first place. Why would they reinstate him after? With respect, Ko Soi IX 17:34, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  They were hardly underground in the East. Again, the vast majority of the officer corps in Kolchak's army were avowed and open monarchists, the last great assembly in the east proclaimed that the Russian People should repent of the overthrow of the Tsar etc etc. I am not saying that the White Movement was strictly monarchist, however it certainly wasn't openly in support of liberal democracy as well.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 192.43.227.18 (talk) 02:22, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Kozhinov's point was that, despite whatever ideology was common amongst the white guard, the leadership of the whites was liberal, followed liberal ideas and was anti-monarchist. With respect, Ko Soi IX 01:39, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  White army - monarchist???? 

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message: I'd like a map of the maximum extension of White-controlled land, perhaps an anachronistic covering the local maximums in different fronts. --84.20.17.84 12:56, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Found it myself. --84.20.17.84 13:04, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: Foreign countries, mostly Monarchies, but also America, were funding the Whites. That needs to be brought up here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by JoshNarins (talk • contribs) 17:01, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Americans have quite often been closet-case Monarchists. George Bush sr. rescued Kuwait from Iraqi occupation. Roosevelt shook hands with the first King of the KSA. Benjamin Franklin bowed ten times to the French King, though refusing to bow to King George III. I must think that King George III was content with not being savaged by a mob. Obama prefers to shake hands with the premier of Bermuda. (83.108.30.141 (talk) 14:58, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foreign Funding 

message: Here is a fascinating, and seemingly well-researched source about the voyage, in April 1919, from Yalta to Malta of the remaining members of the Russian Royal family. Does it fit somewhere in this article, or perhaps elsewhere? For the time being I have added a little at HMS Marlborough (1912) which already includes the evacuation. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:12, 24 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voyage from Yalta to Malta, April 1919 

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message: The White movement ceased to exist de jure on October 25, 1922 - the fall of Vladivostok. de facto it existed until June 19, 1923 - Arrest of Pepelyaev. But there was no white movement in 1934 or in 1929.
Kislitsin served the government of the Kuomintang Chiang Kai-shek and not the White Army. Bekteev served to Sheng Shicai separatis Army. The Asano Brigade and the Russian units of Manzhu-ho served the Japanese. Belyaev served to Paraguay. Krasnov father served Thrid Reich . Krasnov son served to Pinocete. This is no longer a white movement. Outside the USSR was not the White Movement but the White Emigration. Kosciuszko fought for the independence of Poland, but the US did not fight for Poland's independence. Although Kosciuszko is an American general.
Distortion of history with Bekteev pro Chinese pro government that would hide a very painful fact - the separatist government Sheng Shicai 1933-1944. The Chinese are lying to imagine everything by the Russians seizing their territory and not by internal separatism.
In 1934 there were no White Guards. Generally no. There were emigrants.
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thread_title:  White Movement after 1923 

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message: In my browser, the flag in the side infobox appears to be of two colours only, owing to the white not contrasting with the background. Not sure how that can be fixed. Andrewa (talk) 18:21, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
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message: The vast majority of sources describe the White Movement as right-wing anti-communist and they called themselves right-wing. Why does the article card say they were leftists too? 188.32.244.225 (talk) 05:36, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Because even many Mensheviks and less other forms of marxists along with countless other types of socialists had affliated with the white movement against the Bolsheviks. GigaMigaDigaChad (talk) 12:34, 3 May 2024 (UTC)

text: White Movement was pro-monarchist right-wing. Read Marx Communism Manifesto, Communism is real left/pro-human rights. Also read quotes on workers rights from influential people, like Alfred Krupp. From aforementioned  manifesto, Liberals are just a sock-puppet movement of Capital, a controlled mock-up of Communism. Because Communism was born in the West and became widely popular, some established Monarchies and rich families perceived it as internal threat, at same time supporting it in competitor's borders to provoke a civil war. This is why Communism was funded/boosted by some Monarchs and some members of Monarchies attempted to take a ride on the popularity of Communism, creating "Liberalism", that in Russia case has busted into real Communism, with West supporting both sides in their glorious conquest of terminating each other. And the survivors were sanctioned (iron-curtain'ed). Divide and Conquer. 81.173.171.167 (talk) 02:18, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Left-wing"