Talk:KFRC (610 AM)

message: :Along those lines, there seems to be something funny about the 50 Watts reaching New Zealand claim. 50 Watts would be barely enough to serve the city. Early powerful AM stations often had 50,000 or even 100,000 Watt outputs - and if atmospheric conditions were right I suppose these could reach New Zealand. But not 50 Watts. I'd check to see if maybe the number isn't off by 3 orders of magnitude (i.e., somebody dropped a "k" somewhere).  Fawcett5 13:24, 15 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  50 watts? 

message: I slapped a merge tag on this article and on KIFR. Here's what needs to be done:
1. The KMVQ article needs to be compiled. KYUU has a lot of background for this. Also some KFRC stuff from the 99.7 era belongs there.
2. KIFR and this page now need to be combined. The 106.9 stuff should be on here in some form. Lots of history with this frequency. Need to take care in not making the article too long.
3. Some of the KFRC stuff should be on KEAR.
I could help with it, once I can possibly sort it all out in my head. This is mind-boggling. Not to mention the Free FM stuff will be migrating over to KYOU.--Fightingirish 01:00, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, what a mess. It was hard enough when I sorted out the KFRC/KEAR/KIFR mess a year and a half ago. Since I haven't been up in the Bay Area in a while, I wasn't even aware of these recent changes. While I'm glad they brought back the old KFRC format, it's sad that they got rid of Free FM and moved the talk shows to a weak-signalled AM station that you can't even hear in the South Bay; that's KYCY, not KYOU which is a TV station in Iowa. DHowell 02:04, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Okay, so now it's time to sort this all out

message: Before anyone makes content changes to the articles, I just want to be clear about something.  When all of the call sign changes took place last week, did the radio stations actually switch their frequencies, or did they just change formats?
I suspect they just changed formats and call signs, but the stations remained the same (including the same management and ownership).  If this is the case, then the article histories need to be moved around.  Radio station articles on Wikipedia generally follow each radio station, not the call signs.  So the article at KFRC should be the current 106.9 and the history of the station at 106.9.  KMVQ should be the current 99.7, and the history of the station at 99.7 (which would include its history as KFRC - see WXRK and WKRI for examples).
Whoever made the initial changes last week did not do them properly - rather than moving the articles about the stations to the new call signs, the person kept the articles and started changing the content to reflect the new station.  If it is the case that only the call signs changed, then some db-histmerge-ing needs to be done.  The article and history formerly at KIFR should be associated with the new KFRC (and the new content at KFRC).  The old content of KFRC should be merged with the new content at KMVQ, and this combined article moved to KMVQ.  I just had all the WFNY-FM/WXRK/WKRI/WXTM articles fixed today (after someone moved those incorrectly), so I know what needs to be done.
If  I have described what happened accurately, then we should proceed to make the changes (which requires an administrator).  Right now, there are 3 articles with 3 histories (KIFR, KFRC, and KMVQ).  There should be only 2 histories for KRFC and KMVQ, and KIFR should be only a redirect (with no history).  Once this is fixed, then the articles could be split as described previously.  --Scott Alter 23:12, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History merges

message: The following edits should be unmerged and transferred from this article to KMVQ-FM:
:*01:21, 27 May 2007 WJBscribe m (moved KFRC to KMVQ over redirect: following change of station call sign)
:*01:19, 27 May 2007 WJBscribe (Complete history merge)
:*01:19, 27 May 2007 WJBscribe (Null edit)
:*01:18, 27 May 2007 WJBscribe (Null edit)
:*01:18, 27 May 2007 WJBscribe m (moved KMVQ to KFRC: history merge)
:*23:34, 26 May 2007 Scottalter (requires historymerge, but after other history is moved from KFRC)
:*01:42, 24 May 2007 67.170.184.73
:*01:37, 24 May 2007 67.170.184.73
:*02:48, 21 May 2007 JPG-GR (image to template)
:*05:36, 18 May 2007 24.25.199.68
:*02:34, 18 May 2007 Boadrummer
:*02:13, 18 May 2007 Boadrummer
:*01:37, 18 May 2007 Fightingirish (→See also)
:*01:37, 18 May 2007 Fightingirish
:*01:35, 18 May 2007 Fightingirish m (→History)
:*01:35, 18 May 2007 Fightingirish (Okay, here's a start. Anyone else?)
:*22:22, 17 May 2007 Boadrummer (←Created page with 'KMVQ is a San Francisco-based radio station, broadcasted on the 99.7 frequency. It used to be KFRC before the name was moved to 106.9, after a format change on ...')
I will wait 5 days for discussion before requesting this on WP:SPLICE. DHowell 22:51, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hist-unmerge

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