Talk:Dale Earnhardt Jr.

message: Please refrain from adding rumors and hearsay about new contracts.--STS01 13:15, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Contract Rumors 

message: Before i make any changes i first want to see if anyone else agrees that the following statement might be POV influenced.
"So far Junior has had a successful 2006 season, with crew chief, Tony Eury Jr., including numerous top 10's and a win at Richmond International Speedway. Many analysts predict Earnhardt will be a legitimate contender for the 2006 Nextel Cup. " --Killakane24 14:11, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: I dont really know but dont his mom own the team he is a co-owner isnt he?
:Junior owns at least 1 Busch team (#88) through JR Motorsports. Not sure about the true ownership structure of that, but it is considered "his" company. I'll add a note about that. DEI owns the #8 NEXTEL team and other teams. I don't know who the shareholders of DEI are, but even if Teresa owns 100%, the "owner" should be listed as DEI, not her. Simishag 23:01, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Dale Earnhardt Jr. co-owns Chance 2 with his step-mother Theresa Earnhardt.  That is the team that provided cars to Martin Truex Jr., who won 2 Busch Series championships in the 8 Busch car.  Dale Earnhardt Jr. wholly owns JR Motorsports.  Earnhardt Jr. does not even use DEI engines in this car, but are bought from RCR (Richard Childress Racing).Kf4mgz 14:26, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I thought Chance 2 closed down/merged with DEI and Junior now just runs JR? --D-Day I'm all ears 15:53, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Chance 2 is only running a very limited schedule in 2006, with Dale Earnhardt Jr. and Martin Truex Jr. sharing driving duties for the few races the car will be running.  DEI's apparent focus in the Busch series is the #11 car driven by Paul Menard, who will most likely be driving in the Cup series in 2007 in the #15 car with Menards sponsorship.Kf4mgz 09:53, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't know where the interlocking ownership comes from.  DEI is wholly owned by Theresa Earnhardt (though I'm sure Dale Jr. owns some "stock" in the company) and RCR is wholly owned by Richard Childress.  Theresa and Richard have a relationship, in that Dale Earnhardt drove for Richard, and Dale Earnhardt Jr. uses Richard Childress Racing engines for his JR Motorsports team in the 88 US Navy car, but other than that, DEI and RCR are separate entities. Theresa and Richard do not co-own anything.Kf4mgz 14:18, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Team Ownership

message: Who deleted my contribution to the fact that Dale Jr is highly overrated. It is a fact. He has yet to do anything worthy of the great praise given to him.--Ledlaxman24 01:31, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While I may agree with you, this is not a discussion board but an encyclopedia! Everything must be written without a point of view, and you certainly are presenting a point of view. Please read WP:POV for Wikipedia's policy. Point of view goes both ways, both in praising and dissing someone. Edits about him being overrated with be considered vandalism by all editors, including myself, and will be reverted (see Wikipedia:Three-revert rule). Royalbroil 02:11, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree with Royalbroil.  Dale Earnhardt Jr.is one of the most popular drivers in Nascar, and has to date won 17 Cup races, as well as 2 Busch series championships.  That's not as many as some other drivers, but is more than a lot of other drivers.Kf4mgz 15:44, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Maybe a better way to phrase the statement is, "After winning two Busch Series Championships, Dale Earnhardt. Jr was speculated to follow in the footsteps of his father, who won multiple NEXTEL Cup Championships.  Through 2006, Dale Earnhardt Jr. has yet to produce a NEXTEL Cup Championship."  - Althouh this is common knowledge, I am sure we could still find a reference stating Junior was speculated to win a NEXTEL Cup Championship some time in the future (2000ish).   Penciljunk 13:15, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted Contribution 

message: Somewhere around the paragraphs on the 2002 or 2003 season, there is a mention of "plate tracks".  I think it would be a good idea to define the term "plate track" or provide a link to another page that describes a plate track, in order to make the article more accessible to non-diehards like myself.Davemcarlson 06:09, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's an excellent idea, and wish I had the expertise to do so.  I hope someone with more knowledge of exactly how a restrictor plate works, and with a good understanding of the rules will contribute to this definition.Kf4mgz 10:19, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Plate Tracks

message: I changed the trivia...Teresa is NOT Dale Jr's Mother.  Dale Jr's Mother is Brenda Earnhardt (divorced from Dale before he married Teresa). --Gorkon 03:04, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: I don't know why caster23 sees deleting my contribution as cleanup as it is relevant to Jr.'s career: 
His career has been successful enough to allow Jr. to purchase a Learjet. A Lear 60 ferries Jr. and his associates to NASCAR races. [http: //jetjit.com/dale_earnhardt_jr.htm] However, he has been recently seen in a Chevrolet commercial singing the 1974 song by George Jones and Tammy Wynette, entitled "(We're Not) The Jet Set". The lyrics refer to a couple as being "the old Chevrolet set," as opposed to leading a glamorous, jet-setting lifestyle. 
Ironic, as after he drives his Chevy he hops into his jet to go home. Walkerson
Please tell me what you think is wrong with that contribution before you delete it again caster23 and lets see what others have to say as well. Walkerson
: Fist of all, the cleanup i did was to the entire article. The controversy that you seem to want to repeatedly add was in a random place the first time i deleted it (in my cleanup edit).  You then added it again under its own section.  It is not important to this article at all, so I removed it once again. --Caster23 00:52, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Those sentences were spam.  I have deleted many links to that website that is referenced above. Please understand that i did not delete just what you added.  I have been working on cleaning up this article. Caster23 01:13, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Chevy Ad Controversy

message: After seeing the deletion of the trivia section (not that I'm objecting, I understand and support the policy against), I was just wondering if other editors also thought that some of that information might be worth keeping in a "Notable Accomplishments"-type section? Looking over the removed material, if people were in favor, I'd propose some or all of the following to be listed:
* First Rookie to win "The Winston" All-Star Event
* First driver since Bill Elliott at Michigan 1985-6 to win four straight races on one superspeedway, doing so at Talladega October 2001 through April 2003
* Joins the Allisons (Bobby and Davey Allison) and the Pettys (Lee and Richard Petty) as the third father and son combination to win the Daytona 500
* Only driver in NASCAR NEXTEL Cup history to pull off a Bristol Sweep in one weekend (won both busch and cup race). [August 2004]
Just a thought, would appreciate other opinions. --Umrguy42 (talk) 01:04, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry to take so long to respond, but yes, I think that each of these is a notable accomplishment, and should be integrated into the text of the article.  In fact, thinking about the father/son combination, there is almost too *little* mention of the fact that Jr and Sr are both quality race car drivers.  Perhaps this is an attempt on the part of the editors, and the media, to let Jr. stand on his own, but this may be worth mentioning more clearly. Edhubbard (talk) 14:46, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia Section -> Accomplishments 

message: The new picture at the top is a much clearer and more current pic---used because it is a work of the US Army...and thus public domain as a work of the United States Federal Government. --AEMoreira042281 (talk) 14:31, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Great pic.  Would cropping to focus more on his torso and head violate the copyright?  Would it be desirable to focus more clearly on his face? Edhubbard (talk) 14:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  This photo, however, would probably look best unedited. --AEMoreira042281 (talk) 00:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox pic replacement 

message: Hey, is anybody else noticing that the HendrickMotorsports box at the bottom of the page seems to be seriously to the right-of-center of the page layout? I've checked this in IE7 *and* Firefox 2.0.0.12, and it looks the same in both. I don't know what's causing it, and it doesn't seem to show up in say, Casey Mears or Jimmie Johnson or on Hendrick Motorsports itself, but it does here on Dale Jr. and on Jeff Gordon. Can somebody better at wiki-markup take a look, and see if they can spot what's going on? --Umrguy42 (talk) 21:54, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hendrick Motorsports box 

message: I have been a unwavering fan for many many years, but I'm not anymore. Your devotion and drive to be the best race car driver on the track is gone, what ever be the reason to much going on off the track or you and the crew chief not on the same page what ever....You are in charge of that.You seem happy just to be out there and that's fine but we as fans don't hafta support you, and I'm not anymore.....You said it yourself when you went on with Hendrick no more excuses its time to put up or shut up well I guess you have answered that one. You no I just wonder where your drive went? you no like when it gets down to 50laps to go even if you are at the front the other drivers get serious you get passed even by cars that have been in wrecks. And trust me I no a little about racing, I have drove for over 30yrs go-karts legends cars and stock cars and Asa cars I even beat your favorite driver Kyle Bush at his on track in a legends car, so I no what I am seeing with you and I don't like it.... Its up to you to fix it if you can or just keep letting your competition with lessor cars beat you, and lose your fan base that made you IN THE FIRST PLACE!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.129.248.167 (talk) 03:58, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gutless!!! 

message: this section seems to have POV issues.  "It was evident that Vickers was to blame for this" was it? and if JR didn't have bad luck (and/or "bad" cars) he would have no luck and no cars at all. I'm not a racing fan, just looking at the article due to recent changes in his team, so i don't think i'm competent to make any changes, except the most minor ones, i suppose i could have banners and "citations needed" tagz placed about, but i'd rather appeal to his, and racing's, fans to see if they can tackle and improve this paragraph.
Childhoodtrauma (talk) 16:44, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, feel free to work on any blatant POV stuff. (Personally, I tend to do minor cleanups as necessary, and then a more thorough re-write at the end of the season, when the major highlights/incidents, and the general trend(s), can be described, instead of race by race recaps.) Don't worry too much about banners and tags (there's already a REFIMPROVE for the whole article needed still), but feel free on the language... umrguy42 19:33, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: now we got a few people warring about whose fault the crash was. I know that was one of the main pov issues i had to start with. If you are a "dale's fault" or "Vicker's Fault" editor, until you can source it (and "fault" is such a pov issue on a crash it can not be sourced to satisfaction) all that is going to happen is dale jr is going to get 100 undo's. Can we/ should we lock or semi lock this page? ah one of the things i love about wiki, ain't watched a race in two years but now I'm stuck with looking into dale jr's page every other day! Childhoodtrauma (talk) 18:36, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, just revert on sight. It's not a high enough level for them to even think about semi-protecting the page. Them's the breaks, I guess. Just watch out for 3RR, and hope they get bored soon... umrguy42 23:37, 3 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  2009 section 

message: since the IP vandal is apparently only interested in messing with this one article, other than user talk pages, how much longer do we need to until it gets semi-protected? the last several dozen edits are us undoing, and them re-doing, the same vandalism edit... SXT103 (talk • contribs) 03:50, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  page protection please? 

message: You have his step brother Kerry Earnhardt listed as a "former driver" but yet he has been making a few NASCAR Nationwide series starts each year, also the only year he did not run a race in the Nationwide series he ran the truck series. I have  tryed to change it to list Kerry as a "part time Nationwide series driver" in the opening paragraph but it keeps getting changed back.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.188.188.110 (talk) 17:18, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kerry Earnhardt 

message: On Dale Jr's 2010 season, you give extensive detail of the first half of his season, where he ran relatively well, but you did not cover the second half of the season, where he ran poorly, with the exception of 4th at New Hampshire, 7th at Martinsville, and a great run at Talladegga until a mid-race crash. You also mention how Jr falls out of the top 12, but do not mention that he briefly returned to the top 12 after a string of good runs in Mid-June through early July. Changes are needed. (Ryantheincredible (talk) 04:57, 13 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  2010 Season 

message: An article update is needed for Dale Jr. to include his long-awaited victory at Michigan last sunday. --Jayemd (talk) 00:46, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The article already includes it. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:36, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I was asking just in case --Jayemd (talk) 17:59, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Next time, check first, or add it yourself.  - The Bushranger One ping only 21:32, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Update Needed