Talk:Hard and soft techniques

message: The article as currently written focuses almost exclusively on modes of defense, i.e. blocking vs. redirecting.  That seems too limited to me; while I am not an expert, nor have I practised any soft style, soft styles' offensive techniques look considerably different from hard styles' offensive techniques, leading me to believe that there may be a difference in principle there as well.  If that is so, this article really needs expansion to cover the offensive as well as defensive differences. -Toptomcat 14:50, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merely defensive perspective

message: I've added some quotes from a couple of Taijiquan classics and some more detail on the approach used from that side. --Fire Star 火星 15:22, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, I've separated out direct comparisons, at least between Chinese and Japanese systems. They may or may not use the same or similar terms to say the same things, but we shouldn't say so. As I mentioned above, we should concentrate on things the well known teachers of these styles have said, Kano, Ueshiba, the Taiji families, etc. --Fire Star 火星 16:44, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Taijiquan]] 

message: Does anyone think a new section like Hard and soft martial arts in fiction or pop culture or film or something like that would be worthwhile? There are a lot of instances that I can think of. --Fire Star 火星 16:47, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Give some examples. (Probably only examples in which 'hard' and 'soft' martial arts are explicitly contrasted would be a good idea to add.) -Toptomcat 18:21, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section proposal 

message: I'm suggesting that The Principle of Ju be merged here and then deleted.  In addition to all of the basic problems with the article itself (title violates WP:Use English, as well as MOS rules regarding capitalization of titles, incorrectly romanizes "jū", and defies the logic that the the "principle of jū" should either be written in all English, or all Japanese and then defined parenthetically, e.g., "jūhō (martial arts principle)", or "The principle of softness", or better yet, simply "Soft method (martial arts)") there is no reason at this point why everything currently written at The Principle of Ju cannot be included here (arguably, it is already covered here). Any objections? Bradford44 13:26, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There were no objections, so I completed the merge. Bradford44 18:16, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge sugggestion

message: :"In Judo when the attacker (Tori) pushes towards the defender (Uke), the tori drops under the uke, whilst lifting the uke over himself, effecting the Tomoe Nage throw with one of his legs. The technique is categorized as a “front sacrifice technique” in judo and jujutsu styles. The push from the uke can be direct, or it can be a response to a push from the tori."
I'm all mixed up. In the first sentence, the tori is pushing. In the last, the uke is implied to be the one who pushed. Which one is it? A reference would help clarify things. Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 06:21, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tori/uke, unreferenced, confusing 

message: From my (admittedly amateur) knowledge of kickboxing and other martial arts, a low kick is very unlikely to break someone's leg. Put them in pain, weaken the joint? Absolutely, but breaking the leg is a rather rare occurrence, and having the time to throw enough leg kicks that a broken leg is realistic seems [i]very[/i] unlikely in a street-fighting situation, to say nothing of intentionally breaking bones in a controlled match.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.53.0.104 (talk) 20:38, 24 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kickboxing low kick classified as leg-breaking?