Talk:Tasmanian nativehen

message: This article currently uses two inline citation styles. Any preferences for standardising it? Sabine's Sunbird  talk 08:21, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
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message: "Swamphen", "woodhen" and "moorhen", per Steve Pryor's argument above, differ dramatically from "nativehen" in that "native" doesn't describe a type of habitat. "Native" is referring to Tasmania, and "Tasmanian Native" is acting as a compound modifier (or adjective) of (for) "hen". "Swamphen" (etc) describes a hen of the swamp (etc). By that logic, "nativehen" indicates that this is a hen of "the native" and (still following the swamphen etc logic) this bird's full name should be rendered "Tasmaniannativehen", as it's a hen of not just any old native but of Tasmanian native (this is the type of grammar the current standard leads us into). This is one of those cases where an exception to WP's current chosen standard needs to be made, on the grounds of both usage and of grammatical logic.
I therefore propose "Tasmanian Native Hen", per the following sources:
* Avibase - the world bird database (all 3 spellings of TNH appear)
* The Tasmanian Parks & Wildlife Service 
* The University of Queensland
* The Derwent Estuary Program
* The following documents from Birdlife Australia: , ,  
(Regarding the hyphenated form, "Tasmanian Native-hen": grammatically, no hyphen is actually needed, and using one hyphen begs the question "in that case, why not two?" i.e. "Tasmanian-Native-Hen")
--TyrS 02:31, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomenclature, continued (or resurrected with a small difference) 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Please find below an updated list of citations & a book reference supporting my move request to Tasmanian Native Hen and the use of "Tasmanian native hen" in the article.
* The University of Tasmania 
* The University of Queensland 
* Birdlife Australia:   http://www.birdlife.org.au/images/uploads/branches/documents/TAS-Bruny_endemics.pdf
* The Tasmanian Parks & Wildlife Service 
* The Derwent Estuary Program
* Cayley, Neville W. (1971). What Bird is That? (5th, revised ed.). Sydney: Angus & Robertson. p. 251. ISBN 0207941300. 
--Philologia (talk) 15:53, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Tasmanian Native Hen" 

message: As the overwhelmingly most common way to render "native hen" is "native hen" (see 8 citations below), and "nativehen" is only used in a few specialist sources, I propose that the article use "native hen" and the first sentence be edited as follows:
"The Tasmanian native hen [here citing the 8 citations below] (also Tasmanian native-hen or, in specialist sources, [here citing eBird & IOC] Tasmanian nativehen)..." --Philologia (talk) 13:39, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: ...don't bung that stuff in the lede, man... that's what the "nomenclature" section is for. The lede is ideally FREE of references, we definitely don't want half a dozen in there just to make a pedantic point. --Elmidae (talk · contribs) 17:36, 22 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  spelling within the article