Talk:Vegeta/Archive 3

message: I don't see a point in having a Vegeta and Bulma section in here, none of the other DBZ articles have a section like that except for maybe the krillin one. But then again, that one is brought to the point because we all are aware that Krillin had been searching for a spouse for years, it (in a way) ties to his personality. I was thinking to have a Prince section included in either personality or history, and then just mentioning his childhood randomely through out the article. There isn't much to his childhood except the fact that he served Freeza for most of his life. Majinvegeta
Yup, I think that section is needed. Because it reveals some details about that couple. Sometimes, there are questions like this -"How is it that Vegeta have chosen Bulma?" Also, maybe I will sound stupid - but when someone will read section about Prince, he will miss some information, since there is not enough sayings, which are telling Vegeta`s personal life. (I mean, as a husband.)
Yes - I know about Krillin and his lookings for a spouse. But this is a different story, especially when we are talking about an Earthling and Prince of the Saiyans. Krillin liked Android 18 (sorry, I don`t rememeber clearly - was it the scene, when 18 kissed him after defeating Z-Warriors, or the moment when Krillin crushed Android`s deactivation device?), but I think that Vegeta NEVER thought about searching for a wife or even to have any (also, why exactly Bulma?).
BTW, I think that this section should have some story about Vegeta and Bulma from Alternate Timeline (From future of Mirai Trunks) to answer a questions like this one - what were there relations during that time?
(Sorry for my English, if it isn`t correct. I am a Russian. :) )
:I don't see anything wrong with your English. 
:Good points, but they aren't really important. For example: The Goku article doesn't have a "Goku and Chi Chi" section, because the relationship is not important. Same with Vegeta and Bulma. --Majinvegeta 23:52, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, we can mention some things of their relationship but it doesn't deserve a full section -Dark Dragon Flame 00:50, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Is a "Vegeta and Bulma" section really needed?

message: I wouldn't really expect vandilism on this type of page but someone has added "FAGGOT" right at the bottom of the first section. I tried removing it,but can't lol. So just letting y'all know! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.46.237.33 (talk) 19:19, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandilism

message: Why are the saiyan and Frieza sagas treated as a single section? this needs to be split DBZROCKS 00:54, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think when you think about Vegeta, the events of the Freeza saga and the Saiyan saga are somewhat tied together. This is different from Goku and anyone else though.--Majinvegeta 22:18, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  suggested split 

message: I see people are having disagreements about when Vegeta becomes Super Saiyan 2, I will point out that When Goku fights Yakon, Vegeta vaguely suggests (but never specifically states) that he was capable of transforming, and Goku's fight with Yakon was prior to him becoming Majin Vegeta. So I just want to point out: First Appearence: Majin Vegeta. First transformation: Possibly earlier. This is not specifically stated though. What do you guys think? I also removed the bit about Vegeta always being in Super Saiyan 2 when as Majin Vegeta, this is untrue even in the Manga. Vegeta was Super Saiyan 1 when he first becomes Majin Vegeta, the lack of electricity (manga and anime) is a dead give-away --Majinvegeta 16:03, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, first time we see Super Saiya-jin 2 Vegeta is when he is about to fight with Goku as Majin Vageta, however as you stated he was SSJ1 when he blew up the stadium -Dark Dragon Flame 17:01, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree totally, in the manga (not so much the anime) it is usually very easy to tell the difference between Super Saiyan 1 and Super Saiyan 2, he was definitely first level. In the Manga, Vegeta (when Goku fights Yakon) says something like (I'm sure this isn't the exact quote): "So Kakorrot has ascended the Super Saiyan as well? Why am I not surprised?". It is not clear whether Vegeta is talking about Goku ascending the Super Saiyan as well as him, or that Goku had ascended; just like Gohan. --Majinvegeta 04:17, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Yup, he was definitely SS1. The reason why I changed the wording on the Majin Vegeta stuff was just to change it, I'm figity sometimes and like to change things. :) --Majinvegeta 14:05, 9 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I remember from the English Dub, Vegeta states that he allowed Babidi to posses him because he saw Goku Transform into a Super Saiyan 2 while fighting Yakon. This would give him the Power needed to ascend. But then again he also mentions while fighting Goku that he pushed himself to the limit and beyond during the past 7 years to achieve that state, so it is pretty much confusing.   UzEE  (Talk • Contribs) 00:25, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I do recall in the manga that when Vegeta went SSJ2 people were surprised. Piccolo states that he has "broken through the Super Saiyan wall" or something like that- a phrase they were basically using to describe the 2nd level. Onikage725 23:05, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Super Saiyan 2?

message: I goofed on the description for the edit I just made.  It should read, "What move CAN'T destroy small planets if enough power is put into it?" Paul Haymon 07:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't worry everybody screws up one of these summaries once in a while; about that question how about a Kamehameha 10x one of those at full power only can destroy a circus wheel, LOL -Dark Dragon Flame 22:18, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oops 

message: Son Goku isn't Vegeta's half brother and will never be.
Just a sneaky vandalism edit that slped past us. -Dark Dragon Flame 23:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Half-Brother?? 

message: Vegeta never uses Ss2 on majin buu except when he has the Majin Symbol himself. In fact it is almost assumed that he could not go ss2. Pay closer attention. Remember when goku fought kid buu in ss2 goku held his own, but when vegeta fought kid buu, Vegeta couldnt even land a single punch.
:Uh 
# Goku was SSJ 3
# Vegeta was SSJ 2 
# SSJ 3 goku was even with Kid Buu.
DBZROCKS 11:47, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hey wait vegeta and ss2 

message: Pics are good, but I have two issues:
* There's too many
* Some of them don't even serve a true purpose, I don't think we need one of Vegeta shaving for "appearance"
I think we need to reassess what pics to keep and what to take out. --MajinVegeta 20:48, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What is with all the pics??

message: The name for the saiyan saga is vegeta saga now.TheClownPrinceofCrime 00:01, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ugh see WP:DBZ yes this is the English wikipedia but our tag says worldwide, which means we are not using only the funimation dubs, we are using the more universally known orginal japanese names. This has been decided for some time now and is not changing. Give up DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 12:14, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with DBZROCKS, and I noticed one of your edit summaries said that Funi was the distributor. Not true, Toei created the anime and distributed it in Japan (and they speak English in Japan, believe it or not), therefore we use those names. And "English being primarily spoken in America" is not a valid reason, we try to avoid any facts that are presented soley in the Dub (such as name changes like....say for example: The "Vegeta" Saga). Just so you know, I in particular don't pussy-foot around when it comes to vandelizm or anything of that sort. That's all I have to say. --MajinVegeta 18:27, 31 May 2007 (UTC)

text: No, vandalism and having conflicting views is quite different. When it is already discussed that the name should be that way, and then some guy whom you've never seen before comes along and arrogantly and persistently changes the name to whatever he wants simply because he wants it, then that is considered vandalism. And to be frank, I don't give a sh*t if you're afraid of me or not, I just want you to be aware that I in particular follow the rules of the book and enforce them vigorously, and am overjoyed to report vandals if they are persistent.--MajinVegeta 14:52, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vegeta/Saiyan

message: I read that a new DBZ episode/movie or something of the sort will introduce Vegeta's brother named Table, so will this be added? (I can't find decent sources at the moment)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.252.30.226 (talk) 00:32, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Table

message: Do we really need two of the exact same pictures of Majin Vegeta? Stormin' Foreman 13:59, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Majin vegeta

message: Are vegeta and Bulma married or what ?
It is implied that they married during the seven years gap between Cell and Buu sagas. Sign your posts.--Kim Kusanagi 18:19, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless you have sources for that, your claims have no merit. Sarujo (talk) 07:30, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Bulma and Vegeta married ?

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Vegetaprince.jpg

message: Something should be added to show that he falters to maintain his arrogant personality at certain times-- e.g before his death on Namek and various other times. 86.5.13.121 14:30, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personality 

message: It said that he Vegeta angered Krilin by callling him a "pathetic human".  In japanese, Vegeta threatened to kill him, and that was what prompted Krillin to shoot a ki blast at Vegeta.  If the English version says something different, then someone needs to differentiate between the two.  But I've editted what happened in the original version, along with some other additions, like to his personality and sharing his food with Boo, among other changes.
In the manga, yeah, I think Vegeta called Krillin something like a "pathetic human", something along those lines anyway. It's the same in the anime too. I think Krillin got so pissed off by Vegeta that he just decided to blast him. Son Gohan (talk) 15:43, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Krilin blasting Vegeta 

message: I made it a little bit more impartial to all parts, I think. read it and judge by yourself.--Kim Kusanagi 19:28, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I made a chenge to the ssj2 section... 

message: Can someone tell me how to remove these images from speedy deletion?  I don't know why thius has been done but the MV and Oozaru Vegeta pics in particular are used for informative purposes that a description alone can't fully relate and they have very full fair use history.Darkwarriorblake 12:48, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Image Deletion

message: As you may have seen on the article itself I have reverted the Vegeta article back at least 100 revisions. The reason being is that in the past few months the article has gotten worse and excess plot information was added. Any minor details can just be changed back, it is not a big deal, but to manually change such a large body of text would be nigh impossible. Discuss below weather you agree with this or not. DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 22:08, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: no you are not, We are cutting back on plot information, not adding more to it. DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 12:07, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes but what is more inaccurate: and article which's main body is poorly written and overly long, but with ok other information, or an article with a better main body and par other information? DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 12:17, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Telling users of whether or not you approve of their edits isn't exactly a good thing to do.--$UIT 20:30, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just saying that some might take it as WP:OWN.--$UIT 21:32, 2 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Its not whos making the edits but the edits themselves. If someone is making crummy edits and screwing up the article, I will revert it. It is not only my right to do so but everyone elses. DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 12:33, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert reasons 

message: The fact that the names of the games are links lets people who want to know more to follow them and find out what forms were available, story and all that miscellaneous junk that doesn't need to be here, including any more pictures than what already exist.
The list form is perfect for those who want to come here, know immediately what games hes in, what systems these are on if they want them and thats all that is needed here, not huge amounts of prose and 'selected' notable games.Darkwarriorblake 00:38, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I ment to see the WP:DBZ Talk page. there is a descussion already started there. DBZROCKSIts over 9000!!! 00:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Games section