Talk:Internalism and externalism

message: I don't have any idea which philosophical topic should get top billing on this page.  I think the epistemological sense is the newest, and the moral sense is the oldest, and I know very little about the debate in philosophy of mind.  The other scale we could use is how popular the terms are in these disciplines, but I have no idea how to determine that information.  So, the current arrangement is arbitrary, and if you have a good reason for changing it, go right ahead.  MRC
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These need to be moved to internalism and externalism (epistemology), internalism and externalism (philosophy of language, etc. (note, isms are not capitalized in philosophical writing, generally speaking).
Actually, though, I think there should be separate articles for each: internalism (epistemology), etc.  I don't think it matters very much whether the meat of the discussion of debates between internalists and externalists of various stripes should go, whether on an "i and e" page jointly, or instead separately--but I do think we should have separate articles in any case. --Larry_Sanger
Fine, but I made these pages before we could use () in page titles, so this was better than the alternitives at the time. Mark Christensen
From the article: "One strand of externalism is reliabilism"
I have to question this. It seems that some people think reliabilism could be used with internalism. Surely we shouldn't call it a "strand" of externalism? --General Wesc
:I've moved this page in line with WP naming policy. ---- Charles Stewart 08:44, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Unsorted text

message: The text goes: "Whereas externalism about justification is a widely endorsed view, there are few defenders of externalism about knowledge thanks in no small part to Edmund Gettier and Gettier-examples.." <-- did the author actually "few defenders of internalism"?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.241.128.144 (talk) 02:17, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Externalism or Internalism 

message: I would just like to point out that this elucidates nothing for anyone who doesn't already know what both Internalism and Externalism are, making this article entirely pointless.
I don't already know what internalism and externalism are and appreciate this summary entry even if each topic has its own separate entry.GaryMilczarek (talk) 22:09, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pointless 

message: "Recently" is a very non-specific term. Is it "recently" as in this month, this year, this decade, this century, ... ? Will it still be "recently" in ten years' time? In a century's time?
Hopefully by then someone will have done something about those three huge impenetrable paragraphs in the middle of the article.
--221.249.13.34 07:56, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Recently" 

message: No has responded to the comment above (which I realize I forgot to sign. whoops) so I have gone ahead  and started rehabbing the 'semantic externalism' article, and have linked to it from here. It is still pretty much a stub, but there you have it.
Is anyone working on epistemological externalism/internalism? They clearly deserve their own page beyond this one, but I am not qualified to start one.
Ncsaint 04:49, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  semantic externalism pt. 2 

message: It occurs to me that these viewpoints might well be compatable instead of opposing, especially when it comes to environmental influences and justification of beliefs. My argument is that the extent of the effect environment on a thinking subject depends on the psychological maturity of that person.
--Darkchanter 17:20, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seperate Internalism and Externalism? 

message: It is not exactly clear in the article why 'justified true belief' is a wholly internalist position (this is implied). It would seem that the requirement of truth is dependent on the state of reality and not on internal evidence, and as such that that sort of externalism is fairly uncontroversial. I'm not an expert on this matter but it seems confused from the pov of a reader. 
Stdbrouw 22:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Externalism about knowledge 

message: Hey, I was surprised to not see any mention of David Malet Armstrong in this article.  Didn't he discover this philosophical problem or am I mistaken?  I'm pretty sure it wasn't Bernard Williams -I am intrigued and will try to find out more and update this article if needs be.  Teetotaler 7 January, 2010  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.81.197 (talk) 22:00, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of Problem 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Change second lead sentence from: These include human motivation, knowledge, justification, meaning, and truth.
Change second lead sentence to: These subjects include human motivation, knowledge, justification, meaning and observation for truth. 
:Semantically more comprehensive description of first sentence, Go for the consensus, thanks...Arnlodg (talk) 16:59, 23 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: its 'and' not 'for' no reason to make the proposed change -----Snowded TALK 00:19, 24 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  /*Change second lead sentence, links*/ 

message: linked lead to internal-external distinction...unable to log in75.82.19.242 (talk) 21:33, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add definition to lead