Template talk:Infobox casino

message: This is a version of the infobox from Wynn Las Vegas.  It still needs work, like updating to only display entries when data is available for a file like in :Template:Airline infobox.  I tried to do this from the start and was not able to get it to work right so I went with a simple version to get this started.  Vegaswikian 07:30, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Still needs work

message: The inital list was:
*Land Based
*Riverboat
*Permanent Barge
I'd like to add add the following:
*Land-Resort
Vegaswikian 19:51, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  casino types 

message: I think it would be in the best interest of a encyclopedia to change # to number. If anyone has any objections please talk here. --Ben 23:11, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rooms 

message: I made a number of changes:
*Actually added the table - closing and opening tags, which replaced the previous, rather cumbersome,  and  templates between this template.  I thought it was ridiculous to have to use those - just add it into the main template that it is being used in!
*Added logo header.  This was for the Ceasar Palace article, which had a logo that stuck out quite badly; it looks much better in the infobox.
*Added "Usage" header with an easy-to-copy bit so new users aren't intimidated by the mess of HTML.  Added  as well.
Thanks. Hbdragon88 04:00, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The logo parameter is screwing up the infobox; see for example Bellagio (hotel and casino) and Paris Las Vegas. --Mathew5000 22:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea, if missing it defaults to the code.  This can be fixed, however I have problems with fixing this myself.  I have tried for other templates without success, so someone else needs to do the fixing.  I did fix the Paris page by moving the logo into the infobox.  However after doing that, I'm not sure I like the way it looks. Vegaswikian 23:45, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I haven't looked at any other pages, but the Paris page looked better the other way. --Mathew5000 05:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

text: There's something to make it optional, but I don't know how it is done.  But we definitely need it for hte logo paramater. Hbdragon88 01:25, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes 

message: MGM Grand doesn't have a logo image either. a broken link above the infobox is annoying. Janviermichelle 16:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: logo images

message: Should the following also be optional?:
* theme=
* image=
* rooms=
* date_opened=
* attractions=
* restaurants=
* renovations= 
* names_pre=
Vegaswikian 05:50, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Optional fields 

message: This needs to be removed ASAP, per WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_an_indiscriminate_collection_of_information... i.e., this is not a travel guide.  Leave that to WikiTravel. --Madchester 17:03, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Address

message: I've added this element back in to the template, there seems to be an issue on some pages where the  and  templates are used causing the title to be mis-placed and appear on the left of the page instead of on the right above the infobox. Not sure why. johnwalton (talk) 10:01, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to add, I've removed as many of the redundant  and  as possible, though there are bound to be occurences I've missed. johnwalton (talk) 10:14, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for the cleanup.  I couldn't believe that the casino infobox was being supplamanted with two other templates...especially when the contents were as simple as {| and |}. Hbdragon88 00:23, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  <code>{{{casino}}}</code> for casino name 

message: It seems that this template has been dormant for quite some time and due for an overhaul into house style. I have just completed the template overhaul now, and am in the process of updating the underpinning documentation to go with it. Amongst the style improvements are newly included fields location, coordinates, architect, and footnotes section for references to go with the information within the infobox. If you have any questions, just drop me a line. Thewinchester (talk) 12:57, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Overhaul

message: Here is a test of a template idea. Fell free to play with these to try different looks and update the source as necessary. One big thing missing at the start is including the sub templates in a master one like is done for airports. Vegaswikian (talk) 17:59, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: test version of templates 

message: I think this could easily be merged wityh infobox hotel. Many casinos are on the groundfloor of hotels anyway. The parameters can be added to the hotel infobox in my view and this easily replaced.  Dr. Blofeld      White cat  09:48, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging 

message: I don't believe these rows belong in the infobox.  Wikipedia is not a travel guide. Toohool (talk) 23:48, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: As I mentioned in the edit summary, it was merely a test -- importing two parameter rows, which are current found on Template:Infobox museum and Template:Infobox convention center. These "parking" and "public transit" rows are also found on Template:Infobox venue, Template:Infobox shopping mall, Template:Infobox park, and a few others. I just wanted to be bold and see how they would technically work here. As for whether they violate WP:NOTGUIDE, apparently there is no such consensus that they do, given the 5+ infobox templates I just cited. Zzyzx11 (talk) 00:26, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see a consensus for adding these rows either.  There's been little discussion that I see, other than some opposition to them at Template talk:Infobox venue#Addition of parameters and some lukewarm support at Template talk:Infobox shopping mall#Parking parameter. The public transit row is basically telling readers the most convenient way to reach their destination, it's not much different from including driving directions in an article.  The parking row (which, from the linked discussions, is apparently meant to list the number of parking spaces) is an odd bit of trivia that I don't think is important enough to be in an infobox.  Both parking and public transit are aspects that are not often mentioned in good casino articles, which I think is generally a good metric for whether something should be in an infobox. I also don't see why you refer to this as a "test", when you've gone ahead and added these rows in several casino articles, and there's nothing unusual about these rows that would appear to require testing. Toohool (talk) 20:16, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a discussion or guideline on what a good casino article should consist of (WP:WIAGA is a general guideline, and there seems to be no Wikipedia:WikiProject casino)? Just because they have not been added yet to the article text does not necessarily mean it's a "good metric" -- it may be only because nobody has yet attempted to have been bold and added something to those casino articles like Madison Square Garden#Accessibility and transportation or Sun Life Stadium#Parking. The bold testing I did also includes going through several individual articles and attempting to fill them in. I will concede that, at least after adding the few that I have done, the public transit parameter will apparently only affect a handful of Vegas articles in proximity to the Las Vegas Monorail. Many casinos do not seem to be in close proximity to a public transit line. Zzyzx11 (talk) 22:48, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do you think these parameters should be added?  The fact that you have added them to other infoboxes with little opposition is not a good reason.  Infoboxes generally do not contain every possible piece of information, they only contain aspects that are found across many of the transcluding articles, so that this data can be quickly viewed and compared in a uniform format.  Any well-developed casino article will include, for example, the date the casino opened, and any previous names that the casino has gone by, so these are good rows in the infobox.  A well-developed casino article will probably not contain the name of the nearest train station or the number of parking spaces.  I have read a majority of the casino articles in Wikipedia, and when I find such information, it's usually in the middle of stuff like opening hours, driving directions, and lists of restaurants, that are more promotional than informational, or are better suited for Wikivoyage.  That's why I say that good casino articles don't contain this information.  By the way, it's no coincidence that you found not many uses for the public transit param. Casinos, at least in the US, tend to be located in rural areas, because urban casinos often generate too much opposition from people who think they will lead to more drugs and crime (and many casinos are on Indian reservations, which of course were created on the most worthless land that could be found.) Toohool (talk) 04:29, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parking and public transit 

message: This template is quite similar to Template:Infobox building. I would suggest merging this infobox into that one, or adding more parameters. For example, should the number slot machines and gaming tables be added? --Daylen (talk) 04:37, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional parameters 

message: and  have both recently been updated to automatically show dynamic mapframe maps by default. I am proposing to similarly show such maps by default for this template, with the same optional parameters to adjust the size, frame center point, initial zoom level, and marker icon; and to similarly allow the mapframe map to be turned off using . See Template:Infobox building#Mapframe maps and Template talk:Infobox building#Change to the map parameter so Kartographer works for further information.  - Evad37 [talk] 15:35, 31 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: - Evad37 [talk] 05:55, 30 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mapframe maps? 

message: I propose to add a demolition_date parameter just like in the  template. Some of the casinos such as the New Frontier Hotel and Casino have been demolished. Abhiramakella (talk) 23:03, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add a <code>demolition_date</code> parameter