Talk:Jewish Renewal

message: I spent a bunch of time today adding quotations and references and links to this page. Does it still fit the "needs citations" criteria, or can that infobox be removed?Rachel (talk) 00:28, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: citations?

message: "P'nai Or" was called "B'nai Or" during the 1960s and 70s and did not become "P'nai Or" until the first Kallah gathering in 1985.  I have corrected the article to reflect that.  I know that feminists were/are offended by "B'nai Or" but let's not be so politically-correct here that we rewrite history.  Also, Waskow did not co-found B'nai Or.  He and Schachter had separate orgs -- with separate publications -- until the two merged around 1986.  I was "empowered" by Shachter-Shalomi as a B'nai Or maggid/teacher in 1983 and more formally ordained by him in 1986.  I left the movement soon after out of disillusionment with the switch to "P'nai Or" and all that entailed. (It was much more than a name change.  As far as I'm concerned, B'nai Or died in 1985.)  I have old copies of the newsletters -- including the merger issue -- and I edited the history to reflect that info.  If I'm not NPOV enough here, feel free to edit, but I think the history itself should be accurate and not based on PC revisionism.  It was B'nai Or for two decades, and only P'nai Or for about a year during the transition before it became ALEPH.  Rooster613 16:21, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: B'nai -- P'nai  issues 

message: The Jerusalem Report (ISSN: 0792-6049)
April 2, 1998
THE NEW BELIEVERS
BYLINE: Yossi Klein Halevi
SECTION: Pg. 14
"...While the phenomenon closely resembles the New Age-inspired "Jewish renewal" movement in the U.S. ..."
Dunno if this counts (in context, it's not a criticism, and indeed is not the topic of the article), but in case someone wants to source it... 149.4.115.3 (talk) 16:18, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Jewish Renewal is New Age(who?)

message: This article appears to me as though it is trying to sell the validity of this movement.  I research Judiasm on Wikipedia with a great deal of regularity, and I can say that this article is not nearly of the same quality standards as most pages I come across.  A page that only cites one source should not be nearly this long.  Moreover, when I came to this page every statement in the "criticism" section had a rebuttal.  That is not a very good sign.  If you are going to put the information out there you should allow people to make legitimate criticisms.  
In any case, start with a short article that consistently grows with its citations.  When you don't do this you wind up with something inconsistent with quality articles of the same topic.
Accipio Mitis Frux (talk) 22:49, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Mild Concern

message: The footnote I added at http://www.rasheit.org/VY_LIBRARY/vylibry.html goes to a library index called Virtual Yeshiva which lists the article as a resource.  However, the link is broken.  But at least this verifies the article exists.  As I recall, it was published in Commentary back in the 1950s or 60s but I don't have a copy of that issue on hand to verify that. Zalman used to hand out photocopies at his workshops, which is where I got it from. The summary on the page is accurate.Rooster613 (talk) 14:18, 30 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Toward an Order of B'nai Or" footnoting 

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