Talk:The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-Time

message: :one incident described in the book is in fact a recreation of a famous experiment regarding Theory of mind. 
Please do tell which! AaronSw 07:45, 23 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: THEORY OF MIND

message: Salvadors speaks with a wise tongue. In other news, some backcovers describe Cristopher's condition as Asperger's Syndrome, not autism. Not that this matters terribly, as they're pretty much labels for different portions of the same spectrum, and his AS would be a very deep one. --Kizor 11:48, 12 July 2005 (UTC
I've removed the words 'murdered' and 'dog-murder'. The word 'murder' refers specifically to the unlawful taking of human life. One cannot 'murder' a dog.
* Good point, anonymous person!  I wonder, what would the correct term be?  Canicide?  Amicide?  ThePedanticPrick 20:01, 26 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Random old chat 

message: With the spoiler warning, we should remove all confusion as to whether or not Judy is actually dead. The current discriptions are confusing and unclear. I'll explain more later when the codeine wears off (I need a root canal and my tooth hurts horrifically).A.Arc 17:59, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Character list clarification

message: "and also his belief that seeing three, four or five red cars in a row means it's a "good", "quite good", or "super good" day, respectively, while four yellow cars signify a "black" day. "
That is not true. That is not written in the book. He doesn't [i]believe[/i] that the cars means something about the day. He only uses them as a guideline as to how [i]he will perceive the events of the day[/i]. He knows that the cars doesn't tell him something about the actual events.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.166.201.239 (talk) 18:07, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Error, someone fix it

message: *"I am veined with iron, with silver, and with streaks of common clay. I cannot contract into the firm fist which those clench who do not depend on stimulus." 
It would be interesting to identify this, if genuine.Septentrionalis 20:23, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like it's a slight misquote from "The Waves" by Virginia Woolf. The original says "Veined as I am with iron, with silver and streaks of common mud, I cannot contract into the firm fist which those clench who do not depend upon stimulus."  It alludes to Nebuchadnezzar's dream of a statue of gold, silver, bronze, iron and clay in Daniel 2:31-33. Translation into plain English: "I'm not a tough, heartless guy." Jammycakes 21:57, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Real novel' quote

message: Co0uld anyone explain the difference between the reading guide edition of the book and the usual edition of the book. What extra information does the reading guide edtion of the bok include? 195.93.21.36 18:09, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reading guide edition

message: "The curious incident of the dog in the night-time" is also a line in the Sherlocks Holmes mystery "Silver Blaze." Can someone confirm this?
72.68.192.201 03:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The quote appears in full at the top of the "Silver Blaze" article. I'm not sure it needs to be reproduced here, though. I think the current explanation is enough. Chris 42 11:24, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Title's Origins 

message: This page says that Christopher has Autism, while the blurb on my edition (Vintage 2004) says he has Asperger's Syndrome. Clarification? 82.46.0.67 19:42, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Autism/Asperger's Syndrome 

message: Added Abnormalities section and rewritten plot, added more info on characters and arranged them in order of importance). Admits that plot could be a little too brief. Abnormalities section can require some adding.... By the way, I just read the book finish today ^_^ heheh 
Fierywindz 13:05, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Abnormalities section/plot and character info

message: According to this, Steve Kloves is busy writing a script for David Heyman and might even direct.
Should be interesting…
HTH HAND —Phil | Talk 15:37, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Film? 

message: With regard to recent 'corrections' that were probably well-intended, please observe the following from Wikipedia:Manual of Style#National varieties of English: "An article on a topic that has strong ties to a particular English-speaking nation uses the appropriate variety of English for that nation." This article relates to a book that was first published in the United Kingdom, is written by a British author and features a British protagonist in a British setting. Chris 42 21:41, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  British spelling 

message: In the movie 'I Am Legend', in the scene just after the scene where Robert Neville (Will Smith) kills his own dog, a building is shown whith a huge sign. The sign reads: "Wellington".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.31.101.231 (talk) 22:59, 26 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WP guidelines do not support including trivia, such as mentions of an article's topic in popular culture. A little of that goes a long way. David Spector (talk) 20:31, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  References to The Curious Incident... 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Curiousincidentofdoginnighttime.jpg

message: Isn't the current title a bit too long? Think about it this way:
Most people see Through the Looking Glass's article at Through the Looking Glass. And this book is called "The Curious Incident" for short by most people. So should we move it to the short title? I think it should be done. --20000 Talk/Contributions 15:57, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No. It should be a redirect but not the title. Bam123456789 Please Talk!! 16:25, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Agree. Short redirects are fine, but titles should follow the title guidelines. David Spector (talk) 20:33, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title of Article 

message: Isn't Asperger's syndrome and high-functioning autism the same thing?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.30.226.24 (talk) 06:14, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diagnosis of protagonist 

message: im sorry but the story pissed me off alot at the point when he figers out that his dad killed the dog and lied to him. ok lieing to him i understand and he can be pissed off but come on! his dad took care of him all this time and his mother basicly left him. wtf! i know he has mental problems but still the his dad was his best frined and he was only tryin to help!   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.99.32.5 (talk) 17:54, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: this is crap

message: Wasn't there previously a section of this article that talked about ASD people criticizing the portrayal of autism in the book, and saying that it gives the average person an inaccurate view of HFA and Asperger's?Gorramdoll (talk) 02:10, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  criticism? 

message: Crud from 69.74.245.228 is getting really excessive. Perhaps
we can prot for a while til school is out or something?
Cratylus3 (talk) 15:36, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: vandalism from river dell

message: The plot section actually reads like something Christopher himself would write; i.e. a very straightforward and literal interpretation of what really transpires in the story. For example, the following sentence (and the paragraph that follows) is clumsy and doesn't reflect what really happens:
Christopher, having lost all trust in his father and fearing that he may also try to kill him 
since he had already killed Wellington, decides to escape from home and live with his mother
What really happens is that Christopher has a really strict classification of "strangers" and "people he can trust". "Father" is not a stranger, and he can be trusted to tell the truth. We're told Christopher is really wary of strangers, whom he feels he cannot trust and who cannot be trusted to tell the truth. Also, he has a hard time bonding with people but he "gets" animals easily. Therefore, when he finds out Father lied about Mother and also killed the dog, his world is shattered and an irrational fear of his father takes hold of him.
But we -- the readers -- know Christopher is not in any real danger of being murdered! 190.191.230.38 (talk) 00:37, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: plot section is very naive

message: Firstly, I am rather new to editing wikipedia articles, so before I make any changes I will post it in the talk page to see if others agree. I see having in the paragraph "Literary techniques" having "strictly with prime numbers, ignoring composite numbers such as 4 and 6."... the phrase "strictly with prime numbers" is enough, and "ignoring composite numbers such as 4 and 6" is just adding unneeded text. Anyone who doesn't know what a prime number is will likely not know what a composite number is, and therefore go and research both. Basically, I see having just "prime numbers" as enough, as it implies straight away that the "opposite" to prime numbers is not included.
Again, I am relatively new to editing wikipedia articles, and I can't be sure if changes are worth making or not straight away. JoshHendo (talk) 10:31, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Just remove the "composite" part.--Roentgenium111 (talk) 23:45, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  --Roentgenium111 (talk) 16:06, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Having both terms "prime number" and " ignoring composite numbers such as 4 and 6" 

message: :"Throughout his adventures, Christopher records his experiences in a book, The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time."
I've read the book, and don't recall there being any indication of the in-universe title of the book (or even that it has one).  Or is there?  What bit of the book have I blinked and missed?  (Or did Mark Haddon state somewhere outside of the book that "The Curious Incident of the Dog in the Night-time" is what Christopher called it?) -- Smjg (talk) 15:52, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct. I've changed the article to reflect the book's actual text. Chris 42 (talk) 12:29, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What did Christopher name the book? 

message: I saw a recent edit on this page that compares Christopher's autistic nature to that of a dog. I thought the entry was somewhat relevant due to Christopher mentioning that he understood animals better than people (by smell, behaviors, tendencies), If it is truly unuseful, than I think the page is fine as is. 173.26.19.206 (talk) 23:43, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Relevant to discuss Christopher's autistic similarities?

message: The "Reception" section currently includes the statement "The book... is also a National Bestseller". Does anybody know what this means? Or which nation it refers to? I think the statement should be either clarified or removed. Robfuller (talk) 22:33, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: National Bestseller?

message: has appeared for the Characters, Plot and Literary techniques sections.
Surely it goes without saying that the source for this information is the book? -- Smjg (talk) 23:30, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced? 

message: Why is "Time" in "Night-time" capitalized? Yves (talk) 00:25, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I would believe it is because that is how the title of the book spells it. Similarly to how if a book called itself "The mOBIle PhOnE" Then that is how it would be spelt on Wiki as well. Does this make sense to anyone else? Crashdown13 (talk) 23:06, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  WP's rules seem to be inconsistent.  It seems that in some contexts you're meant to use the official capitalisation, and in others follow standard English title-casing rules (e.g. Honey to the Bee where officially it's Honey To The Bee).  I'm confused.  But my experience of normal title-casing is that hyphenated words are capitalised as if each part is a separate word. — Smjg (talk) 13:53, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

text: The copy of the book I have before has this on the cover: 'ThE c/Cu/URio/ou/sS/s INC/ciDEN of THE Do/Og iN ThE NiGHT - TiMe' [hyphen/dash spacing is unclear to my nonprofessional eye]. The letters are of various sizes, with the second two words having the largest. The / letters are ones where they could be upper or lower case.  Size does not make things clear, since, e.g., the 'f' is larger than any of the letters in each of the following letters.  Why there is no "T" at the end of "Incident" I can only guess as a typo.  On the title page, all letters are in caps, with all initial slightly letters taller than following ones except in non-initial articles and prepositions, thus reflecting title-casing.  Here, the 'T'" in "time" is of the same height as the other tall initials. On the next page, with copywright etc., the name of the book is totally absent.  My edition is Vintage 2004 , 12 14.. 13.  ISBN 0 099 45009.  This looks like a case for capitalizing  the 'T' in "time." Kdammers (talk) 09:43, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like you downloaded a bad epub. If you paid for that thing, then you got ripped off by a copyright infringer. Sheogorath 149.254.218.26 (talk) 10:46, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Kdammers may be describing this cover: . As for the syling "Night-Time", a few pictures at  support it, as do most hits at , including booksellers and publishers. Mark Haddon's homepage (see [www.google.com/search?q=curious+incident+of+the+dog+in+the+site%3Amarkhaddon.com]) isn't particularly helpfull in this matter; like some covers he sometimes uses all lower case, and the fact that it has "Night Time" (no hyphen) in a page title may be accidental. I think we should keep "Night-Time"--Nø (talk) 13:31, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Night-Time"? 

message: The more I think about it, the more I don't think that we should have the section on the possible film adaption. The references aren't very substantial, and, more importantly, are highly speculative.  WP:CRYSTAL (a part of the policy WP:NOT) says that we have to be careful when reporting speculations about the future. I'm not convinced that the evidence we have here is strong enough evidence that the film is really being created.  "Planned" films may take years or more to get may, or may never be made at all.  How would others feel about removing the section? Qwyrxian (talk) 23:47, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If "currently being planned" is a true, referenced statement, and remains true over the months and years, it should remain. If it is speculation, or not always true, then it should be removed (WP is not a news service). David Spector (talk) 20:40, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Film adaption 

message: Hi all.
My copy of this book is copyright 2002 while this article states it as 2003. So I should probably change it eh?
Bremen (talk) 06:11, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No there's no reason why you shouldn't keep the book you have... GrahamHardy (talk) 14:57, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Graham, I actually laughed out loud! Thank you for the humour! David Spector (talk) 20:43, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Publication date 

message: There's absolutely no citation for this, no mention of it in the novel, and the writer himself states on his website that Christopher's character was based on people he knew who had no form of disability whatsoever. http://www.markhaddon.com/aspergers-and-autism
This "with an autistic spectrum condition" needs to be deleted immediately as it is just the mistaken opinion of someone who read the book and doesn't understand what autism is.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.50.152.28 (talk) 10:02, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: However, various covers of the book have used the term aspergers and/or autism. I've edited the lead to make the distinction between what the cover's have said and what Haddon says. Note that an author does not actually have final word over how their work is interpreted (that idea disappeared from literary criticism a few dozen years ago), but I do agree that it should be better phrased. Let me know if this seems to capture the distinction better. Qwyrxian (talk) 10:22, 4 June 2012 (UTC)

text: It's also worth remembering that authors don't have much say on what the publishers put in the marketing materials/blurbs/etc. Zian (talk) 20:05, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not autisim spectrum. 

message: The following paragraph appears at the end of the first section:
Whether or not this is meant to be a piece of trivia, it is not encyclopedic, not typical information provided in articles on other books, not relevant to the rest of the article, provides no useful information to most readers, and should therefore be removed. David Spector (talk) 19:11, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I just came here to say the same thing, especially concerning the lead, but since I'm now second in line, I'll just go ahead and remove the paragraph in a stealthy, Grinch moment. — MaxEnt 22:23, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove dedication paragraph? 

message: The Plot section reads like an adult-level story. Is the Plot section valid for the Children's Edition? If not, I suggest adding an initial note to the effect that this is the plot presented in the Adult Edition of this book. David Spector (talk) 19:15, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot section: edition? 

message: I've removed the spam from this section (can't remove sections from talk pages, apparently).
Sheogorath 149.254.218.26 (talk) 10:55, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The curious incident of the dog in the night time 

message: In an encyclopedia "which anyone may edit" I would have liked to add here the information, that a Russian version is currently playing at the Sovremennik Theatre, Moscow.History of the theat-re. Official website of the Moscow Sovremennik Theatre (in Russian)
Perhaps a vandalism protection from 2012 might be lifted in 2015? I for one would entertain the notion, that the enterprising vandals might meanwhile have changed their target...  --Terminally uncool (talk) 15:21, 12 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stage run in Moscow 

message: My book says it was published first by David Fickling Books
while Wikipedia says it was published first by Jonathan Cape.
Whos right?
*The article is correct. The book was first published in the UK by Jonathan Cape, David Fickling published it first in a different country months later.
*Sheogorath 149.254.218.26 (talk) 10:51, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Publisher was Divid Fickling Books or Johnathan Cape? 

message: There is absolutely nothing about the mixed reaction the book has had from autistic audiences due to the fact it's hailed as the inner workings of an autistic mind, but it wasn't written by an autistic person, or even someone. It's thus NOT in any way a good representation of the inner workings of an autistic mind, it's just a fictional book about an interesting character. They're opinion matters just as much if not more than the medical professionals. Overall the reception section is very one-sided. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:A601:541:D901:88FD:FBAB:F245:41E4 (talk) 21:21, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception from autistic audiences 

message: Although it is not explicitly stated in the book, it appears to be set in 1998. Christopher mentions an England vs. Romania football match (June 1998), he mentions an event in 1992 when he would have been nine, he receives a letter from his mother with an October 1997 postmark and claims it is eighteen months after her "death" (two years prior to the book). If this were to be added, would it constitute original research, because the citations are all in the book. Samuel J Walker (talk) 16:13, 20 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year of the setting 

message: This pair of sentences is inconsistent/incorrect:
On 19 December 2013, during a performance of The Curious Incident at the Apollo, parts of the ceiling fell down injuring around 80 of the over 700 patrons inside.[27] The production re-opened at the Gielgud Theatre on 24 June 2013.[28]
I think the latter year should be 2015 (based on dates listed next to the referenced articles, but not sure whether those are useful).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.143.143.69 (talk) 15:55, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reopening in Gielgud date 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: 205.189.94.17 (talk) 20:34, 27 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please add to the main page 

message: I am currently reading this. I was captivated from the first paragraph.
I also a high quality feature film, Brad Pitt's or whomever, would be made. Seven Pandas (talk) 19:06, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Captivating and Film 

message: In the part that talks about the Ask Marilyn column by Marilyn vos Savant, it says "there used to be a column". Marilyn's columns are stilled printed in Parade and are still being written, towit:  Seven Pandas (talk) 21:25, 11 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: While he's riding the train he makes a map of Swindon to London, which has London south of Swindown, but it's really east of Swindon. 2600:8805:5802:AA00:DD5:8C21:B77:D1DC (talk) 21:57, 13 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Errors in book