Talk:Gala Dalí

message: Dr. Gokhan Sayram; 23 October 2003; gokhansayram@yahoo.com
I removed this from the original version. Andres 23:42, 19 Nov 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Garbage

message: As I write this, the article is at "Gala Eluard". I note the book "The Shameful lif of Salvador Dalí" refers to her as "Gala Dalí". She was married to Dalí longer than she was to Eluard.  A google search shows 692 hits for "Gala Eluard", 776 hits for "Gala Dali", and 2,120 hits for "Gala Dalí". I'm going to move the article to "Gala Dalí". -- Infrogmation 19:44, 11 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Eluard or Dali

message: There is quite a bit of confusion (especially among Russian-language sources) as to what her first name actually was. Can someone provide a link to an authoritative source on this matter? ---Vladimir V. Korablin (talk) 16:32, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Helena or Galina? 

message: Ian Gibson. in his Dali biog "Shameful Life of Salvador Dali" (page 220) calls her Helena Diakanoff Devulina  - not Elena Ivanovna Diakonova
--Rrose Selavy 23:06, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct birth name? 

message: "Gala was dosing Dalí with a dangerous cocktail of tranquilizers and amphetamines that ultimately caused the artist's neurological downfall." - If somebody can't very rapidly provide an excellent cite for this allegation, we should delete it. -- 201.51.252.63 17:35, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cite urgently needed for harsh allegation 

message: A recent documentary on British TV: 'Dirty Dali: A Private View', Channel 4, Sunday  (I think 4 June 2007) suggested that Gala was deaf and had difficulty conversing:
"... Sewell first struggled to converse with the Spanish surrealist and his deaf nymphomaniac wife while each sat in their own eggshell. "
http://living.scotsman.com/tv.cfm?id=869862007
It is of intense interest to me - was Gala actually deaf or just a bit hard of hearing? Did she know any sign language?  I work with several deaf artists, and we are interested in this topic. 
If anyone can confirm details, I will add a short sentence to the article on Gala.     RedTomato 13:56, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: From Dali's aubiog, she doesn't seem to have been deaf when she was younger at any rate; I don't know if she was completely deaf by the point refered to in the film or if its an overstatement. Good question. -- Infrogmation 16:55, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was Gala deaf?  

message: Don't know how long it's been there for, and no idea who wrote it. Just though I'd move it here to Discussion instead of just leaving it in the article. 
"Gala had a relationship with rock singer Jeff Fenholt[4] She lavished him with gifts, including Dalí's paintings and a million dollar home on Long Island.[citation needed] - Jeff Fenholt continues to deny that there was any relationship that he had with Gala Dali.  There is no proof to substantiate that any of this is the truth."
SunsetFlare (talk) 17:05, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone wrote this in the article 

message: I have fixed up some problems with this article, but it still needs a lot of work to reach a B-class rating, which it doesn't deserve at present  There is no infobox, and scant or missing coverage of her life for extended periods.  There is more info about some aspects of Gala in the Dalí article, which isn't saying much.  Her relationships with Dalí and others were definitely non-conventional, and her dominant attitude must have had an effect on those near her. There are some unusual claims about Gala which probably are true, but which need much better referencing from multiple sources.  There is quite a bit of work needed to fill in the gaps, before this article can qualify for anything better than a C-class rating.  Can anybody help out?  Reify-tech (talk) 19:56, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  C-class article 

message: Regarding the Dalis' marriage in the Catholic Church in 1958, the article contains the following sentence:  "They needed to receive a special dispensation by the Pope because Gala had been previously married and she was a believer (not Catholic, but was an Orthodox Christian)."  
This either needs to be reliably sourced, or removed, as it is doubtful that a "special dispensation by the Pope" was either needed or granted. (The article on Salvador Dali does not appear to contain this statement.) I myself tried to find a source for this statement, which is currently reposted all over the Internet, but none of the web sources appear to be reliable, and it seems likely many of them got the information from this Wikipedia article. I also searched some news archives for articles regarding the 1958 marriage, and I have not found any contemporary English langauge source such as a newspaper reporting that a "dispensation by the Pope" was needed.  
Reasons why the statement seemed doubtful to me: 
1) By the time the Dalis married in 1958, Gala's former husband Paul Eluard had been dead for several years, as he died in 1952, and his death was publicly known so there was no question as to whether he might still be alive.  The Catholic Church therefore would have regarded Gala as a widow who was free to marry. It is possible that Dali may have discussed his marital situation with the Pope at some point before 1952, as the article on him mentions that he met with the Pope in 1949 and discussed his marriage, but the issue of Gala's previous marriage would still have become moot when her previous husband died in 1952. 
2) To the extent that some type of dispensation might have been needed due to Gala being a non-Catholic Christian (she was Russian Orthodox according to reliable sources), this type of dispensation for a "mixed marriage" would typically have been granted by the local ordinary, in other words the Catholic bishop of the area where the marriage was to take place. The Pope is the Bishop of Rome, however the couple did not have their Catholic marriage in Rome but rather in Spain in the Sanctuary of the Angels, which is located within the Roman Catholic Diocese of Girona, so the bishop of Girona, not the Pope, would have handled any dispensation for a mixed marriage.  
TheBlinkster (talk) 22:28, 20 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: A source for this is The Dali Legacy How an Eccentric Genius Changed the Art World and Created a Lasting Legacy By Christopher Heath Brown and Jean-Pierre Isbouts, which mentions that Dali met with Pope Pius XII in order to get the pontiff's approval for his painting "The Madonna of Port Lligat" and also a license to marry Gala in a church ceremony.--Jburlinson (talk) 14:03, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the information.  Was this the meeting between Dali and the Pope in 1949?  If so, it would have made sense to ask the Pope about a dispensation then, because Gala's former husband was still alive (died 1952).  However, by the time the couple actually married in 1958, they would not have needed it.  Does the source contain a) the date of the meeting with the Pope and b) a confirmation that the Pope actually granted whatever dispensation was sought?  Because he might very well have refused or said he would take it under advisement for a time.  As it is, I have asked this question of canonists and other experts in the Church law and all are in agreement that it is making no sense to say that a dispensation was needed for Dali to marry a widow. TheBlinkster (talk) 17:57, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with TheBlinkster. If Gala's previous husband was dead, no dispensation for a previous marriage was necessary, and the dispensation for a mixed marriage would not need to come from the Pope. The current text is confusing for that reason. I recommend removing this sentence until someone can provide clearer information. Valkotukka (talk) 15:50, 26 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alleged dispensation by the Pope