Talk:Echolalia

message: What if it's semivoluntary?  What's the cause? lysdexia 21:22, 30 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: older entries

message: "The researchers have determined..." Uhm, which researchers exactly? I suspect this may have been copied (and edited) from elsewhere where it referred to people mentioned earlier. Maybe it should just say "Researchers", but then the reader still doesn't know which researchers the article is referring too. This should be fixed. (See Wikipedia:Avoid weasel words) Retodon8 14:06, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The researchers have determined... 

message: Does echolalia manifest itself as a parrot's mimic of the actual SOUND of the words in question or merely a recitation of the words themselves, in the speaker's own voice?  Or both?24.165.210.213 07:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mimicry or appropriation? 

message: What's the difference between say, repeating a song that is stuck in one's head? For example, several times I've heard a song only once only to have to suddenly realise halfway in the day it was still playing, with a real urge to express it. Is the difference perhaps, is that I have the social control not to express the sentiment in public? John Riemann Soong 11:22, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  tunes getting stuck in one's head  

message: When someone is talking to me I mouth what they are saying, is this a type of mild Echolalia?
89.241.4.55 (talk) 19:43, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: mouthing what other people are saying

message: The first part is wrong, and the second part explains why the first part is wrong, but the entire section is unsourced and not written in encyclopedic tone, so I removed the whole thing until someone can fix it, based on a reliable source.
:--yo man i wrote the second part i know my linguistics shit ive read lots of books and many girls whom i have later banged have told me i am a linguistic genius and lots of my profs. think im really smart as well.  i quit college in my last semester because my ex girlfriend beat me up that doesnt mean im not smart. so credit me, ben powers, as the source and who cares about your silly 'encyclopedic tone' argument. you are wrong for depriving people of my information.  plus one awesome girl i know who also quit my college was named robin. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.180.127 (talk • contribs) 07:23, 28 January 2007 UTC
haha that guy who wrote unsigned is a dummy i clearly wrote my name in the paragraph and my name is my signature on a computer.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.233.180.127 (talk • contribs) 18:47, 28 January 2007 
=== Immediate Echolalia ===
Immediate echolalia appears to tap into the person's short-term memory for auditory input. This is defined as the repetition of a word or phrase just spoken by another person. Knowing the person very well would appear to be the key to understanding their specific intentions. For example; staff: "Johnny, say hello to your mom." Johnny: "Hello to your mom." 
That example was not really echolalia.  It is just an example of Johnny being silly and taking the command literally.  True echolalia is if someone says "Wow, look at that pretty robin redbreast" and then the next person says "pretty robin redbreast" as soon as the first person finishes talking.  He is not trying to be silly, rather  he has a psychological condition which makes it mentally pleasurable for him to repeat the phrase "pretty robin redbreast" as soon as he hears someone else say it at that particular time.  This is echolalia.
:I think theyre both echolalia.  It's not always possible to tell the child's intent.  I think the hello to your mom example might be highlighted in clinical writeups precisely because it has another meaning to the rest of us, meaning the speaker not only repeats words but seems not to parse their meanings.  It's possible that it's more likely the speaker would break the sentence somewhere else, or repeat the entire sentence ("Johnny, say hello to your mom"), but the sentence that starts with hello is still echolalia in the mind of the speaker, as they are not using the words for their meanings. —Soap— 14:01, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed for discussion

message: Immediate echolalia appears to tap into the person's short-term memory for auditory input. This is defined as the repetition of a word or phrase just spoken by another person. Knowing the person very well would appear to be the key to understanding their specific intentions. For example; staff: "Johnny, say hello to your mom." Johnny: "Hello to your mom." 
That example was not really echolalia.  It is just an example of Johnny being silly and taking the command literally.  True echolalia is if someone says "Wow, look at that pretty robin redbreast" and then the next person says "pretty robin redbreast" as soon as the first person finishes talking.  He is not trying to be silly, rather  he has a psychological condition which makes it mentally pleasurable for him to repeat the phrase "pretty robin redbreast" as soon as he hears someone else say it at that particular time.  This is echolalia.
:I think theyre both echolalia.  It's not always possible to tell the child's intent.  I think the hello to your mom example might be highlighted in clinical writeups precisely because it has another meaning to the rest of us, meaning the speaker not only repeats words but seems not to parse their meanings.  It's possible that it's more likely the speaker would break the sentence somewhere else, or repeat the entire sentence ("Johnny, say hello to your mom"), but the sentence that starts with hello is still echolalia in the mind of the speaker, as they are not using the words for their meanings. —Soap— 14:01, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Immediate Echolalia 

message: The first sentence is taken directly from the cited source ...
"Echolalia is the repetition or echoing of verbal utterances made by another person. " 
N1ugl 04:22, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that should be fixed (it was here before I started working on the article).  I'll find a way to fix it.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 04:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  needs to be reworded? 

message: "Some autistic people and people with Asperger syndrome may use repetition as a method of allowing themselves more time to process language." - this may be very true, but is there a source for that?80.171.71.40 (talk) 18:36, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It might be in the "Simon N." source referenced in the preceding paragraph.  Without reading it I can't be sure. —Soap— 18:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aspergers and E. 

message: Amongst the most eminent of sufferers was Victor Babes, a 19th-century bacteriologist who gained academic recognition through his work on Babesiosis. Upon his return from Paris where he worked with Pasteur, Babes had developed a 'tic', now termed 'echolalia', for his own surname. It was recorded in the memoirs of his brother that his marriage suffered terribly, due to his wifes misconception that 'Babes, babes, babes, etc' was in fact self-aggrandisement.
I've removed the section above from the article to talk; see WP:MEDMOS.  The section name ("Noteworthy sufferers") would need to be changed, the text is uncited and POV, and I'm not sure this meets MEDMOS crit. for inclusion.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 12:25, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Would "the memoirs of his brother" be the source that should be cited, if we knew the name of the memoir (I don't)? Cernansky (talk) 18:04, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not if that's the only source, and not unless his brother was a physician, or had some diagnostic acumen, or there is some medical collaboration of the echolalia.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 19:31, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Noteworthy Sufferers

message: Since 2013-09-15, five new editors, talk page messages to all of them, yet not a single article talk response from any.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 00:41, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Editor summary

message: If a course has been working on this article, the issues have recurred over several terms.  There are good sources available, that meet Wikipedia's sourcing standards for medical conditions and statements.  Here is a list of reviews much more recent than the sources being used (and I am additionally troubled by the focus on autism with Tourette syndrome overlooked):
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SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:17, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: : Removed text sourced to Rydell 1994, which is covered in (and contradicted in) the 2009 secondary review cited above ().  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:08, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Treatment 

message: Regarding this edit, no, I don't understand what it is saying.  Automatic is the terminology in the sources, vocalizations and sounds are redundant, and the grammar here is confusing ... SandyGeorgia (Talk) 13:47, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur that the sourcing of some of the previous edits was weak. I am going to have a quick attempt at updating and improving some of the information and sourcing, including expanding the focus: echolalia occurs in all sorts of communication disorders. Slp1 (talk) 18:59, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Apologies for the delay.  Just as I was going to edit, a once in a lifetime real life opportunity presented itself, and  of course I went!! Slp1 (talk) 21:12, 26 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I do see your point about that section  I'm going to take a look at it in a bit: I think it may be worth a brief mention, but not in the way currently presented.Slp1 (talk) 23:53, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better ? 

message: I thin this behaviour is similar in animals. AXONOV (talk) ⚑ 16:15, 30 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  In animals?  

message: The final paragraph in this section appears to be a random anecdote that doesn't really add anything to the section overall. I think it should be deleted or moved to another section. Thoughts? LemonTeacher8675309 (talk) 04:13, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, and removed (this article attracts a lot of same, and I've grown weary of keeping up with those kinds of edits-- sorry I missed that one, and thanks for pointing it out).  SandyGeorgia (Talk)  14:34, 13 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Signs and Symptoms Edit