Talk:Carrie Underwood/Archive 1

message: Is Wikipedia becoming a subsidiary of People Magazine? Are American Idol contestatnts with public exposure of barely 2 years worthy of an article of this length. The article seems to grasp for the most banal of details, present nearly every daily appearance in the last 18 months and stuff them into this gossip-column type composition.
50% of this article can be deleted. The Singles, Discography, and Awards charts sufficiently represent a large majority of the textual content. This redundancy is not necessitated.
The length of Wikipedia articles is determined by the passion of the geeks that write the articles. Also keep in mind that Wikipedia should NOT be used as an authoritative source; it's function should mostly be used to point people in a direction, and the provide the location of authorititative sources
:I agree. Its time to go in and do a wholesale pruning of all the out-of date items and chart-cruft that has built up over the past 2 years. --Eqdoktor 06:52, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have done some clean-up, reducing the article from 38kb to >30kb (does not give article length warning anymore). I've removed a lot of the excessive fan cheerleading stuff, unnecessary comparisons to other artistes (yes, Carrie is a huge success we get the idea), chart listings (only #1s need to be listed) and advertisement work. There can still be a lot more pruning that can be done, for instance - the body text already lists out the various awards she has won (phew... she had a good year in 2006), AND there is a table listing her wins (and nominations). One or the either is redundant and can be removed. --Eqdoktor 08:07, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Length

message: Under the American Idol section, I think that we should compile a list of the performances and her own renditions of the songs she performed under this section so people can see what she performanced to be deserving of the American Idol crown. --Omghgomg 10:28, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: List of performances in AI

message: Carrie is rumored to be dating Dallas Cowboys quarterback, Tony Romo -- who claims that the story is true.  However, Underwood has yet to comment, while Romo and his agent were behind the rumors that he was dating Jessica Simpson; after he had been dumped by his now ex-girlfriend.
I don't think it's fair to publish rumors as fact, about someone's relationship, when that person has made no comment.   The reality is, Tony Romo is playing a PR game right now after getting dumped, and so the fact is, people generally don't look at a single-guy in his late 20s as wholesome or well grounded -- they look at him as aloof, irresponsible and/or immature.  So to get dumped right as your star-power is rising, is not good PR; especially for the quarterback of "America's Team."  Which is when Romo and his agent stirred the rumors about him dating Jessica Simpson, which backfired because she was dating John Mayer.  Apparently, they've now done some better research and have moved on to Carrie.
All I'm saying is that, until Carrie comments on the rumors, that the rumors are likely just a PR orchestration and should be ignored.  As well, not even YouTube has video clips of Carrie and Romo.
By the way, Romo also claims to be from Oklahoma, when he was born in San Diego and grew up in Wisconsin.
Player News from Sportsline.com:
Dallas QB Tony Romo had his worst game Monday night against Philadelphia since he became a starter. He completed 14-of-29 passes for 142 yards and one touchdown. He was intercepted twice. Coach Bill Parcells had a talk with Romo on Wednesday. "I think he understands what I want from him now," Parcells said. "A little more clearly than he did up to this point." Parcells wouldn't be specific about the conversation. In his past four games, Romo has thrown four touchdowns and been intercepted seven times. Also, Romo is looking to avoid distractions. Romo was linked to pop star Jessica Simpson and now it's Carrie Underwood. He talked with Underwood on the field before the game and said it did not detract from his focus against the Eagles. Romo said all his time is devoted to football. "Anybody that knows me knows I am up here all the time," Romo said. "This is what I do. I don't have much else in my life." 
(Updated 12/28/2006).
::Updated the Tony Romo/Carrie Underwood dating item with a external ref link. I dunno how relevant this is in an encyclopedia article of Carrie Underwood (more like a gossip item IMO), but there you have it. He's gonna after have a lot more time with her after this game debacle  = snarky snicker... --Eqdoktor 08:49, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Relationship Rumors

message: TXmaster and NSUBOY continue to vandalize this page by including non-sourced information pertaining to a boyfriend named "Chad Eagleton."  TXmaster uploaded a picture on 2/17 in which he states that he is Chad Eagleton.  These claims are most likely dubious attempts by the two users (who are probably actually the same person) to claim that they are dating Carrie Underwood.  As none of their claims are sourced, I along with several other users continue to delete them.  Neither user has stepped up to the challenge of providing a source for their claims.  Please continue to delete their constant vandalism. Batman2005 23:54, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If he inserts it one more time before too long, he'll be in violation of WP:3RR. I'll leave a message to that effect on his talk page. Hermione1980 00:02, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good job, I also reported both users as vandals twice now, hopefully these users and their vandalism will be stopped. Batman2005 00:11, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NOTE

message: This page was voted on for deletion at Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Carrie Underwood.  dbenbenn | talk 15:15, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: VfD

message: HALLELUJAH
I think I speak for everybody when I say that it was expected that Carrie was the obvious winner, even Simon himself said that she would win. Tonight I'm the happiest person on earth. Carrie being the new American Idol, hey what more can you ask for? :-)
--Gramaic; big Carrie Underwood fan! 05:08, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Well, she won.

message: From the article:
:She was voted as one of PETA's two 2005 "World's Sexiest Vegetarians".
Is this correct?  Underwood is not a vegetarian, she simply doesn't eat beef because she might be eating one of her pets.  I'm fairly certain she eats chicken, pork, fish, etc. which doesn't qualify her as a vegetarian by almost any definition.  Can anyone shed any light on this? — Frecklefoot | Talk 18:45, July 29, 2005 (UTC)
:I'm with you on this Frecklefoot, I've only heard her say that she doesn't eat beef, and never heard her say she doesn't eat meat. --Gramaic | Talk 20:24, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, she is a vegetarian. Most of the ppl who have farms, are vegetarians. And she wouldn't lie!! I even saw the picture of her voted as the sexiest vegetarian!!
"Most of the ppl who have farms, are vegetarians." 
WHAT? Umm I know lots of farmers and I don't know a single one who is a vegetarian. In fact, most of them hate vegetarians.
Nwbh 19:16, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vegetarian?

message: -I am kinda new to this wikipedia thing, but I was wondering how to change the tense of a statement in the Carrie Underwood section?  It should read "is a member of Sigma Sigma Sigma" and not "was a member" because when you join sorority your membership is for life not just college.  She has been featured in the sororities national magazine as a current member also. 
user:jadis96
:Just click "Edit this page" (or whatever your skin says) and change it.  Is that wiki or what? ;-) — Frecklefoot | Talk 19:47, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
My fan site CarrieNEWS.com lists all of the quality Carrie Underwood sites and actually includes CarrieUnderwoodOfficial.com in my directory on the home page. 71.106.233.137 05:11, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: question on tense

message: Apparently, 68.89.40.39 thinks Underwood is a sex symbol.  While she certainly is attractive, I don't think that automatically makes her a sex symbol.  She's usually portrayed as wholesome and sweet, not as a sexpot.  Anyone else think she should be removed from the "sex symbol" category? — Frecklefoot | Talk 19:47, August 22, 2005 (UTC)
: My first opinion is that Category:Sex symbols is far too subjective for the purpose of an encyclopedia.  Since Wikipedia is supposed to be a source of information based on fact and not personal opinion, yes, this should be removed until at least two credible and independent sources can be provided which define her as one.  Hall Monitor 20:05, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: See also Wikipedia:Categories_for_deletion/Log/2005_June_20#Category:Sex_symbols for a related discussion.  The category itself was narrowly kept in a recent CfD discussion due to a lack of consensus, partially because of the existence of Category:Gay icons.  Hall Monitor 20:10, 22 August 2005 (UTC)

text: Until someone can WP:CITE a proper source, I am removing this article from Category:Sex symbols.  Hall Monitor 18:01, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Sex symbol

message: I think she's hot.
Also,shes sweet and sexy not a bad girl like Britney or Christina Aguilera.
:How is what you (anonymously) think of her relevant to an encyclopedia article on her? *Dan T.* 11:58, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: She's hot 

message: Is there a source for this statement? --Gramaic | Talk 05:06, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the link. Regards, --Gramaic | Talk 09:48, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Born in Muskogee, Oklahoma?