Talk:Israeli passport

message: its a secular not Muslim country —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Boils (talk • contribs) 22:49, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. Are all the countries we describe as Muslim are officially such? What makes a country Muslim, majority of population, membership in an international Muslim organization (OIC?), or sharia? I think the entire list "Muslim countries that do accept Israeli passports" has to be removed. ←Humus sapiens ну? 00:04, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkey  

message: As far as I know they won't let you in if you have an Israeli stamp in your passport. Can anyone verify this? 
Also, how do Arab Israeli's perform Haj? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cape fox (talk • contribs) 20:58, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a special Egyptian-Israeli-Jordanian agreement reached after the Sadat's visit to Israel, according to which Israeli Muslims can get temporary Jordanian passports for the purpose of performing the Hajj. DrorK 12:05, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saudi Arabia 

message: I've heard that North Korea does not accept Israeli passports, either. Should this be on the list?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.149.139.121 (talk) 16:04, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know of Israelis who visited N Korea, and I am almost certain they used an Israeli passport, but N Korea is indeed a rare destination for Israelis. DrorK (talk) 07:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is a report in Hebrew by Sara Ozacky Lazar about her 3 day visit to N Korea with two other Israelis and a bunch of S Koreans. She doesn't say which passport she used, but she says the N Korean officer at the border crossing said to her: "We welcome our Israeli visitors", so I gather he saw an Israeli passport handed to him. She says that once they crossed the border the whole group (including the S Koreans) received a N Korean temporary travel documents to be used during their stay. DrorK (talk) 07:27, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  North Korea 

message: There are no photos on Wikipedia that cite the photographer's name on the page itself. Personally, I would remove half the photos on this page. To me, it looks like someone wants to make life easier for forgers.--Gilabrand 06:48, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed my user name from the photo caption.  Personally, I cannot see why anyone would seek to forge an old style Israeli passport.  And it is easy enough to but a real current style passport (eg on eBay) if one wanted to try to forge one.Edwardx 08:39, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You have a point, but considering that Wikipedia is the first source that comes up nowadays on Google, and the fact that not all forgers are sophisticated, I thought there might be just a bit too much detail and technical information on this page. And by the way, I am not the paranoid type...About the photo credit, theoretically it's fine, and I wouldn't mind getting credit either, for the large number of photos I have uploaded. I just saw that photographer credits don't appear on any other pages. I know for a fact that if I tried to put my name on the Jerusalem page, for instance, it would be gone in a jiffy.--Gilabrand 09:01, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  photographer's name 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Israel passport 1959.jpg

message: I have Changed: "orange" travel document... to "Blue", Since this is the new color of the "travel document" or "Teudat Ma'avar" (תעודת מעבר).--Elias19 (talk) 17:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there are different kinds of te'udat ma'avar (lessez-passer). There are lessez-passers for nationals (either new citizens during the first year of citizenship, or Israelis who lost their passport abroad and need some document from the embassy in order to get home), and there are lessez-passers for non-nationals, i.e. permanent residents of Israel or territories controlled by Israel who cannot get a passport from any other country (these are usually Druze people from the Golan Heights or Palestinians from eastern Jerusalem). The lessez-passer for nationals is definitely blue. I'm not sure whether the current laissez-passer for non-nationals is blue or still orange. DrorK (talk) 07:14, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Orange" Travel document  

message: The Canadian travelers' guide brought as a reference says Canadian citizens have been denied entrance to Saudi Arabia for having Israeli stamps in their passport. However, this is not necessarily the case today, as the travelers' guide doesn't cite an official Saudi guide, but merely state what happened in the past. The attitude towards Israel in many Arab countries was much more antagonistic in the past than today. DrorK (talk) 23:02, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have yet to see evidenence of a single person being issued a Saudi visa with an Iraeli stamp in their passports. While relations may have improved, the law regarding Israeli passport stamps has not changed in these countries and Saudi authorities (especially) are keen to jump at any chance not to let a person into their country. Passportguy (talk) 11:28, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What about Kuweit and Qatar? Again, I'm not surprised to learn that these countries used to deny entrance from people who have been to Israel, but I am surprised to learn that they still do it today. DrorK (talk) 20:04, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The problem with all of these countries is that they have barred people in the past and have not stated that they have changed their official policy. While IMHO you probably can get by arriving in Qatar with an Israeli passport stamp or two, they could still turn you back on that alone if they happen to be in a bad mood. The only countries that have officially stated that they have discontinued the policy of baring people with Israeli passport stamps are Bahrain, the UAE and Oman. Passportguy (talk) 20:18, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Countries that don't accept Passport with Israeli stamps

message: Does someone have a source providing information on this facility ? Passportguy (talk) 16:23, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  If you have an Israeli passport and an American passport - you must use your Israeli passport when you enter and leave The State of Israel, not your American. Its a law and the punishment is up to 2 weeks in prison.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.181.114.244 (talk) 00:11, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Technically, if you're an American, who also have an Israeli citizenship, and have only American passport, you should get an Israeli passport or lessez-passer in order to get into Israel. If it is your first visit and you enter with an American passport, I think the authorities at the airport would just warn you to get an IL passport for your next visit. This issue could be more delicate if you're around the age of compulsory army service. If one of your parents used to have an Israeli passport, you should check this out before visiting Israel. DrorK (talk) 07:07, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visa on arrival for Central African Rep ? 

message: You should update the map, New Zealand is also visa free for Israeli passport holders.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.81.4.180 (talk) 23:59, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I updated the map, but it is hard to see New Zealand in this map due to the projection used to create it. DrorK (talk) 06:58, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New Zealand - Visa-free

message: Israel will have soon biometric passports before 2010. The USA told Israel that Israelis will be able to enter the US up to 3 months without the need for a toursit visa when Israel will have a biometric passport.
So when Israel will have biometric passport (before 2010), Israeli passport holders could enter the US visa free!
:Well, at least this is what Yediot Aharonot says on its last Friday's edition (3 October 2008). According to this report the US authorities say that a biometric passport is the only obstacle. It still doesn't explain why they insist on personal interviews and such high fees (we're talking about a friendly country with lousy passports, nothing more than that, and they didn't demand these interviews and high fees several years ago), but that's beside the point. DrorK (talk) 15:41, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: But its not gurentee right? an agreement was signed?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.179.139.47 (talk) 23:39, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it is hardly a mutual understanding. If I understand it correctly, it is like a mother telling her child: go do your homework, then we'll see about going to the amusement park. What the US officials said was actually: first show us you have nice modernized passports, then we'll think about getting you into the waiver program. DrorK (talk) 09:33, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So we will have to wait and see. More then 93% of the Israelis get a US tourist visa and that is their first requirement for the waive program. Israel and the US are good friends so just the passport stops Israel from entering the waiver program, according what they are saying. It passed first call today: http://www.nrg.co.il/online/1/ART1/804/363.html  --79.182.138.124 (talk) 18:20, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there is an agreement to dissolve the Knesset and let the president announce early elections, this legislative process is going to take quite a lot of time. One thing still confuses me - getting a visa to the US used to be a simple process of filling in forms, handing them to a travel agent with the IL passport, and waiting a few days. Since 2003 it became an almost unbearable process of standing in long lines, filling tons of forms, paying a lot of money, having a personal interview etc. Now, all of a sudden, they talk about waiving the visa requirement altogether. Why going back and forth between the extremes? What was wrong with the pre-2003 process? DrorK (talk) 18:40, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Until a year ago, one of the laws to enter the US waive program was: "at least 97% gets a tourist visa". Now it changed to "at least 93% gets a tourist visa" so Israel can qualify now, while before the law has changed they couldn't (more then 93% of the Israelis get a visa but less then 97%). Its very possible for Israel to qualify now based on that law. However, all the countries in the waiver program have biometric passports and not only 93% visa approvements so they insist that Israelis to come to the embassy and give fingerprints because there is not a fingerprint sample of them in the passport which could be fixed with inserting a small chip with data into the passport. The US says that terror organizations are using fake Israeli passports so they are afraid to let non-biometric Israeli passports in their country without a way to insure that the passport is authentic and the owner of the passport is really the person who holds it - and they could insure it with an electronic chip inside the passport. Even Czech and Hungary qualified, they have biometric passports and when they needed a visa - 93%+ of them got it. Maybe before 2003 they didn't take fingerprints in the embassy, so there was no need for someone to come to the embassy by himself? --79.182.138.124 (talk) 12:56, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They demand much more than fingerprints. They demand a personal interview with every applicant. Most refusals are not related to security issues. As far as I could understand, most Israelis who cannot get into the US are new immigrants to Israel or young people with no permanent job. The US authorities are afraid that these people actually want to work in the US illegally. Nevertheless, I did read in the local press that Israeli passports are easy to fake, and I even had this strange experience - I have a US visa and several other visas with pictures and security features in my passport. When I left the country once and went through the Israeli border control, I saw the officer comparing the pictures on the visas with the passport's picture. I figured he doesn't trust our own country's security features, and uses the foreign visas to make sure the passport is authentic. DrorK (talk) 21:41, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Israel join the Visa Waiver Program of the USA 

message: I had to pay 360 BOB plus a 21 BOB tax for a 30-day visa, with my Israeli passport.  This is the current norm for entering, as of a couple weeks ago. Jickyincognito (talk) 05:45, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I've heard about this change. I'll update. DrorK (talk) 17:37, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bolivia 

message: According to the official website of the Russian embassy website in Israel, Russia requires a visa from ALL foreign citizens!  
See: http://telaviv.rusembassy.org/rusvisa.html
:When was it last updated? DrorK (talk) 19:44, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Russia 

message: The information section indicates that French Guiana allows visa free access for Israeli citizens, as French Guiana is considered part of the European Union, but this is not indicated on the map.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.33.242.3 (talk) 02:00, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  French Guiana 

message: I know for a fact that Hungarian government also gives dual passports to citizens that want to visit Israel and Arab countries...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by YosiDov (talk • contribs) 08:18, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hungary 

message: Could somebody obtain a wikipedia-uploadable (without the license-problems the previous scan / photograph in this article apperently had) photograph / scan of a passport from before 1953 with the "Valid to any country except Germany"-line? --Baruch ben Alexander - ☠☢☣ 17:20, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  A pic of an israelis passport with  "Valid to any country except Germany" 

message: On the map malaysia is light green colored, but it is not mentioned as a country that does not accept israeli passports in the list. Maybe somebody can update with the current status.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.137.136.63 (talk) 11:26, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Malaysia shows on map as not accepting israeli passport 

message: The Note under "Countries that do not accept Israeli passports" is largely a repetition of what comes earlier in the page.  Can this be tidied? Kmasters0 (talk) 09:06, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repetition 

message: Beliz does not require a visa from Israeli passport holders anymore. The map should be updated.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.177.20.48 (talk) 20:09, 15 December 2011
:What map? RashersTierney (talk) 22:20, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That is a different article, namely Visa requirements for Israeli citizens. You should ask your question at Talk:Visa requirements for Israeli citizens where editors familiar with that topic may be able to address the issue. RashersTierney (talk) 02:07, 17 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beliz - Visa free 

message: In the Golda Meir article and this article the claim is that Golda Meir had the first Israeli passport, but the references were dead links. Also I visited the Chaim Weizmann museum in Rehovot where I witnessed his passport bearing the number 00000001. This image corroborates that to some extent. Until we have a more definitive answer I'd say we should not claim we know who had the first Israeli passport. Maximilianklein (talk) 21:35, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't remove 'dead links'; tag them as such or apply archived copies instead. The references are archived here and here. Whether you wish to discuss their reliability is another matter. RashersTierney (talk) 21:52, 26 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Passport number 1 

message: I have traveled with an Israeli passport holder from Nairobi to Mogadishu, Somalia, and the officials at the Mogadishu Airport allowed him to enter using his Israeli passport. --196.201.207.225 (talk) 07:06, 22 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Somalia 

message: Guys:
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to move the "enemy states" paragraphs to their own section?  The Lebanese Passport article has a section on travel restrictions, separate from all others.
--UMDdude (talk) 17:38, 22 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modification to "History" Section.  

message: I have added to citation needed tags to the enemy states section, but I think the information is outright incorrect and should be removed without a source:
* It says that "Under Israeli law, Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, Libya, Lebanon, Saudi Arabia, Syria and Yemen are designated "enemy states" and an Israeli citizen may not visit them without a special permit issued by the Israeli Interior Ministry. The original list was set in 1954, and was updated only once on 25 July 2007 to include Iran. (Not verified)." This strikes me as incorrect, because:
** The 1954 infiltration law deals with foreigners entering Israel, not Israelis going to other countries
** The 1954 infiltration law does not define enemy states, except for the purpose of this specific law
** Transjordan and Egypt would have been by far the most important "enemy states" in 1954, and they were indeed included in the law. Pakistan and Libya were not. According to the Hebrew Wikipedia, Egypt and Jordan were not removed from the list even after the peace treaties, but in any case the law deals with infiltration so it's irrelevant for legal crossing into Israel.
** In July 25, 2007 Israel clarified that Iran was an enemy state under sanctions, but this is completely unrelated to the infiltration law from 1954.
* It says that "A 2008 amendment to the Nationality Law of 1952 designated 9 countries which are considered an enemy of Israel: Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Libya, Sudan, Somalia, Syria, and Yemen as well as the Hamas-administered Gaza Strip."
** Assuming it's referring to this draft, as far as I can tell it did not pass (Hebrew Wikipedia corroborates this). Indeed the article doesn't say it passed, but it implies this.
—Ynhockey (Talk) 08:49, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enemy states 

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message: According to Visa policy of Pakistan holder of Israeli passports can visit Pakistan.--Exjerusalemite (talk) 16:33, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pakistan 

message: Minister of Interior Arie Der'i signed an order that allows non-Arabs to go to Saudi Arabia for business, up tp 9 days, if there's an official invitation.
I don't have citations and exact info, so I don't want to edit wrongly, but it's something rather new, as for yesterday (26.1.2020). FixingThePage (talk) 07:21, 27 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allowed to go to Saudi Arabia 

message: why this article not extended-confirmed protection? because this article is about israel.Tokyo Metro 6000 series (talk) 03:23, 24 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed protection 

message: Article's lead section has a  request after "per a 2002 regulation". That probably refers to https://he.wikisource.org/wiki/%D7%97%D7%95%D7%A7_%D7%94%D7%93%D7%A8%D7%9B%D7%95%D7%A0%D7%99%D7%9D#%D7%A1%D7%A2%D7%99%D7%A3_2%D7%90.  (Section 2a is from 2002; the law overall is older.)  Could someone add this to the article please? I won't have time to do that myself. 79.183.42.49 (talk) 01:12, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Specify" requested - here it is 

message: I see that this article doesn’t list Bangladesh as one of the countries that reject Israeli passports. But the map used by that section shows Bangladesh as one of such countries. So who is right? Should the page or the image be changed? Stansult (talk) 22:56, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bangladesh