Talk:Caracazo

message: Privatization and austerity are simply one set of policy ideas.  They do not automatically represent "reform" because it is not an unchallengeable assertion that state ownership, job security, and well-funded social services represent corruption.  Therefore, using the term "economic reform" to describe them is not NPOV, and can in fact be taken as using a Wikipedia page to advocate for those policies.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.74.53.131 (talk) 04:32, 22 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: describing privatization and austerity as "economic reform" is NOT NPOV

message: I'm bothered by the arbitrary inclusion of 3,000 as an estimate of the number dead (and even more, by the spanish page's inclusion of un millon).  Who made these estimates?  I'd love to include non-governmental estimates, but so far I can only find passing reference to numbers. DanKeshet July 4, 2005 22:52 (UTC)
I am bothered as well. The site used as quotation is a propaganda site for Chavismo, THE propaganda site abroad. I wonder if that should remain there
--Periergeia (talk) 11:39, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Death toll

message: Caldera no es padrino de Hugo Sandy 21:49, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Padrino

message: Until there's a source, I am removing the following sentence, "The Venezuelan government, by then headed by Chávez, did not contest the findings of the case, and accepted full responsibility for the government's actions". It's a biased statement with no backup. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.191.85.179 (talk) 15:10, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Need citation

message: Though many civilians were killed, a more suitable infobox for this article is the civil conflict infobox. The previously used civilian attack template is unsuitable for this article as it is generally used for terrorist attacks or other comparable acts.--ZiaLater (talk) 04:03, 4 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Changed the infobox

message: I plan to add lots of factual information about Caracazo. This includes: changing the ideas that "privatization and austerity as 'economic reform," changing the amount of deaths, or "death toll" that was resulted from Caracazo, and adding citations to old factual information that needs them. The bibliography for my future additions are below:
Debrek, Red. “1989: Venezuela Caracazo Food Riots.” Libcom.org, 23 May 2019, libcom.org/history/1989-venezuelas-caracazo-food-riots.
Griswold, Deirdre. “Venezuela's 'Caracazo' and Imperialist Hypocrisy.” Workers World, 19 Feb. 2019, www.workers.org/2019/02/41118/.
Kowalski, Philip. “Venezuela's Downfall Isn't About Socialism - It's About Oil.” Www.ozy.com, 22 Apr. 2019, www.ozy.com/flashback/venezuelas-downfall-isnt-about-socialism-its-about-oil/92669/.
Marquina, Cira Pascual. “Thirty Years after Venezuela's 'Caracazo': A Conversation with Livia Vargas.” Venezuelanalysis.com, 14 Oct. 2019, venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/14400.
TeleSUR, None. “La Masacre De El Caracazo.” Alianza Bolivariana Para Los Pueblos De Nuestra America, 2019, www.portalalba.org/index.php/areas/cultura/memoria-historica/8221-la-masacre-de-el-caracazo.
Times Editors, New York. “Price Riots Erupt in Venezuela.” The New York Times, The New York Times, 28 Feb. 1989, www.nytimes.com/1989/02/28/world/price-riots-erupt-in-venezuela.html.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stevenleicht (talk • contribs) 02:07, 18 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  What I Plan to Add and Bibliography 

message: Please explain why you deleted sourced material restored by .  I have restored it back again.  --David Tornheim (talk) 04:11, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Answered below. --NoonIcarus (talk) 18:37, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  NoonIcarus's deletions 

message: Just wanted to provide some definitions on why the usage of "official" is POV wording. 
*Merriam Webster: 
The word "extraofficial" is hardly used in the English language, though I see that "extraoficial" is common in the Spanish language to deem things "informal" or "untrustworthy".
So, the wording "Government" and "Independent" is much more neutral when describing sources discussing the number of deaths as it is not minimizing the validity of the sources. WMrapids (talk) 06:09, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official/Extraofficial vs. Government/Independent 

message: This article should use the term "protests" and not constantly follow it up with rioters. This, more than anything is just bulky language. Riots and looting should, probably be covered in their own section as well as allegations of foreign support. This might reduce some of the WP:NPOV issues this article has. Allan Nonymous (talk) 20:29, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Description of the events