Wikipedia talk:School and university projects/ITESM Campus Toluca/Appleteam

message: Hello Appleteam. If you would like, I can be your mentor. I have been around for over a year, and I have wanted to start helping others around here. I actually already have one adoptee, but I think I can handle a few more. Let me know if you'd like me to help. J-stan TalkContribs 22:55, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

message: Hello, Appleteam, and welcome to Wikipedia! I hope you like the place and decide to stay past the end of your project. Here are some pages you might find helpful:
*Be Bold! 
*Don't let grumpy users scare you off 
*Meet other new users 
*Learn from others 
*Play nicely with others 
*Contribute, Contribute, Contribute! 
*Tell us about you 
If you have any questions or problems, no matter what they are, leave me a message on my talk page. Or, please come to the Mentors page, where you can find many experienced Wikipedians that can answer any queries you have! Or, you can just type  on your user page, and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. 
We're so glad you're here! Rockpocket 17:18, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey guys! ¡Bienvenidos! ¿Necestan ayuda? Puedes hábleme Gracias, y buena suerte! Arky ¡Hablar! 19:55, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hey, hey, this is the English Wikipedia! :) J-stan TalkContribs 20:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''Welcome!''' <small>(''We can't say that loudly enough!'')</small> 

message: Put links on your project page to your individual user pages.  See Lirdoco's page as an example.  Thanks! Thelmadatter 18:48, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Links

message: Glad to be mentoring you. First of all, I'll need your usernames. Then we can get down to business. J-stan TalkContribs 19:47, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Its not obvious but their usernames are above. Ladies... you need to move all this to your discussion page. Thelmadatter 20:13, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK, then, let's get down to business. First of all, if you haven't done so yet, add this page to your watchlist. Just click the tab that says "watch", and it will automatically add it. Watchlists are a great way to check up on edits that are being made to certain pages. Now, please read the five pillars of Wikipedia. All policies, guidelines, and your edits follow these. They are the fundamental principles of Wikipedia. Next, in addition to the pages User:Rockpocket left in their welcome message, you might want to take a look at the simplified ruleset before delving into the individual policies and guidelines (note: there are also "essays", but there are too many of those, and they also aren't official rules to be followed). Once you do that, let me know on this page. J-stan TalkContribs 02:53, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  You mean you're watching this page :) Editing is pretty straightforward in itself: click "edit this page" at the top of the page and add content. But then there are rules, and you are reading them. If you want information on how to use talk pages, go to Wikipedia:Talk page guidelines. That pretty much covers your comment on my page. Also, if you're already logged in, you don't need to type your username after the signature, as typing the four tildes adds your username and the current time. However, if you aren't logged in, you should probably log in before you edit. I noticed this in the 100 word essay on Thelmadatter's talk page. J-ſtan!TalkContribs 00:46, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mentoring 

message: Hello Appleteam, I'm Neranei. I just wanted to let you know, that, if you want, I'd be happy to mentor you. Please tell me what you think! Love, Neranei (talk) 23:57, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mentoring 

message: Please remember to do all communication concerning work related to the course on this discussion page.  It is the only page I can monitor and give students credit for doing their work.  Thank you!!! Thelmadatter 13:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reminder to Mentors and Students

message: We are interested in writing about Mexicans states specifically in Cancun, Quintana Roo Mexico.
We want to focus on the touristics places, beaches, enterteinment, sightseeings. We find this State is very important for Mexican economy.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueapple23 (talk • contribs) 18:30, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What you might want to do is google your subject, and you should find some travel guides. Write that info in your own words, and it should be ok. Some reading you might want to take a look at is Wikipedia:Your first article, and also WP:NOT#TRAVEL, so that you won't create something that could be deleted. J-ſtan!TalkContribs 18:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Topics that we are interested in

message: I assume this is appleteam's doing :) (please remember to sign in, guys). Well, it appears you already have a nav bar in your page. J-ſtan!TalkContribs 22:09, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nav Bar 

message: The three contributions that students need to do next partial (~October) is to significantly edit an article, create a stub and translate an article from English Wikipedia for Spanish Wikipedia.  Mentors, if you would be so kind as to look over the Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mexico, Wikipedia:WikiProject_Mexico and :Category:Mexico_stubs pages to help students discuss and select projects to do in October. For more information, see the Wikipedia:School_and_university_projects/ITESM_Campus_Toluca/Syllabus page.  Thank you! Thelmadatter 13:57, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Does it have to be about mexico? because the students could take a look at CAT:STUB to find a subject that interests them and expand on it. J-ſtan!TalkContribs 00:41, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion for discussion

message: Hello, well we think that the article has to be about Mexico, but we are not sure, we will ask our teacher. We will also chek the link that you gave us. It would be really helful.We were aswering your comments in your talk page, but we think that we have to do all kind of interaction in this group page for now on. Thank you!Blueapple23 00:00, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please copy whatever comments you left on your mentor's page over to this one so I can give you credit for the contact.  Please make sure everything is in chronological order. Thelmadatter 18:42, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Topics

message: :: Please copy whatever comments you left on your mentor's page over to this one so I can give you credit for the contact.  Please make sure everything is in chronological order. Thelmadatter 18:42, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: comments left on mentors userpages

message: Adding userboxes to your user page is one of the easiest things to do! All you have to do is find a userbox you like. For example: 
Now, you click the "edit this page" button, and find the template (it should look like this: , where x is the name of the template). Just highlight it, hit CTRL+C to copy it (do not cut), and go back to the previous page. Sounds complicated, but it really takes about 5 seconds. J-ſtan!TalkContribs 02:52, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Userboxes 

message: Now we have userboxes!!!. Thank you J-stan. It was very easy.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueapple23 (talk • contribs) 17:01, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: (EC) You should really only put userboxen on your own userpage :) J-ſtan!TalkContribs 17:03, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Thankyou

message: Is Blueapple23 the only active member? She seems to be the only one I see doing work. J-ſtanTalkContribs 15:25, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anyone else 

message: Hi J-stan. We are in the most important part of our assignment in wikipedia, now that we are more familiar with it. We want to thank you for your support and we hope you continue helping us. For our next assignment we will have to make some changes in the "Toluca" article. We will let you know when its done so you can give us feedback. 
About your comment, we are working as a team but im the one who uploades the comments, but you´ll see more participation from the team members, i promise.
Thank you again. Blueapple23 01:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem. I was just concerned because I didn't know if thelmadatter is giving out compromised accounts and just not publicizing it as much. I will review your edits when you are finished. J-ſtanTalkContribs 01:57, 2 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Sure. Stubs are always a good place to start. They are described as articles "containing only a few sentences of text which is too short to provide encyclopedic coverage of a subject, but not so short as to provide no useful information." Find a stub (in your case, try :Category:Mexico stubs) and expand it. Remember always to source your information, and avoid original research. J-ſtanTalkContribs 02:45, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I like this article.  It needs organization, citations and better information. Thelmadatter 13:49, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hello again

message: Airport
Toluca has an International Airport called Adolfo Lopez Mateos.
This Airport has started a development process impulse by the Federal and State Government, as well as the support of the private sector, with a private inversion that will reach into the next 2 years to 3,200 millions.
This Airport has generated to the moment 4,500 direct jobs and has contributed to increase the commercial activity, also it has brought the attention of many clients who live in Mexico city that now prefer to come to Toluca Airport, which represents migration in potential consumers of 2.2 millions of passengers in 2007 expecting for 2008 5 millions, this will take Toluca Airport as the 4th most important in the country.
The airport has a big road of 4200 m and it is located in the central part of Mexico, 15 km away from Toluca and 60 km away from the country’s capital serving as an airport of Mexico city.
Sources: Secretaria of Comunication and Transportation, Direccion General de Aeronauticas (DGAC).
Industrial Zone
Before 1944, so many industries settled in Toluca compared with other Mexican counties. 
In 1965, some industries took the risk to settle[d] on the industrial zone of Toluca-Lerma-Tianguistenco, that is located on the north side of [the] Mexico-Toluca highway and railroad. 
This city is an important industrial center because geographically it is located in the heart of                                             the economic activity of the center of the country. Industries and commerce of big infrastructure that produce drinks, food, textil[e]s, cars, electric products, etc  are an example of what we can find in this city which is considered of one of the most develop of the country.
Toluca [also] has a [large] infrastructure in highways that communicate the city with the main cities of the country, Toluca’s International Airport, Bus Station and a big center of industrial Parks like:   
•	Corredor Industrial Toluca. In which there are: Nestlé, Chrysler, Pfyzer, Mercedes Benz, Cervecería Cuauhtemoc Moctezuma, Coca Cola Femsa, etc. 
•	Parque Industrial Lerma: Mané, Abba, Corn products, Barcel, Leiner Davis, Warner jenkinson, etc.
•	Parque Industrial El Coecillo: Bimbo, Nissan, Crisa, Optima, etc
•	Parque Industrial Toluca 2000: General Electric, Morton, Alpla, Innopack, Bardahl, Chupa Chups, etc (you don't need to list these, maybe mention a few notable ones)
: This is all very good. You've done your homework! Just remember your sources and external links. Content you add must be verifiable, otherwise it will be removed. Your edits don't need to be perfect, because Wikipedia allows others to correct factual or grammatical inaccuracies, but I made a few changes to them. J-ſtanTalkContribs 03:17, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Work we are doing in the Economy section of the [[Toluca]] Article

message: Before 1944, many industries settled in Toluca compared with other Mexican counties. 
In 1965, some industries settled on the industrial zone of Toluca-Lerma-Tianguistenco, that is located on the north side of Mexico-Toluca highway and railroad. 
This city is an important industrial center because geographically it is located in the heart of the economic activity of the center of the country. Industries and commerce of big infrastructure that produce drinks, food, textil[e]s, cars, electric products, etc  are an example of what we can find is found in this city which is considered of one of the most develop of the country. (doesn't belong here, I'm sure it can be added to the intro or something)
Toluca has a [large] infrastructure in of highways that communicate the city with the main cities of the country, Toluca’s International Airport, Bus Station and a big center of many industrial Parks, in which there are lots of important companies, such as Mercedes Benz, Coca Cola Femsa, Bimbo, Nissan, and Nestle.
(Gobierno del Estado de Mexico)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blueapple23 (talk • contribs) 18:10, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent! I mad ejust a few grammatical changes, but definitely put this in. Just one thing about the source, make sure you have an actual link, don't just add the source in parentheses. J-ſtanTalkContribs 18:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Im having them do the citation this way for now.  I will cover how to do Wikipedia citation style on Monday.  Thats part of the reason they are putting their drafts on their group pages. Thelmadatter 18:50, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm sorry, but Wikipedia has citation standards, regardless of your curriculum. They shouldn't place the citations like that if they do add the info, but eventually they should cite it in line with guidelines if they want it to be kept. J-ſtanTalkContribs 19:13, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes on  industrial zone part of the [[Toluca]] Article

message: Airport
Toluca has an International Airport called Adolfo Lopez Mateos.
This Airport has started a development process impulse by the Federal and State Government, as well as the support of the private sector, with a private inversion that will reach into the next 2 years to 3,200 millions.
This Airport has generated to the moment 4,500 direct jobs and has contributed to increase the commercial activity, also it has brought the attention of many clients who live in Mexico city that now prefer to come to Toluca Airport, which represents migration in potential consumers of 2.2 millions of passengers in 2007 expecting for 2008 5 millions, this will take Toluca Airport as the 4th most important in the country.
The airport has a big road of 4200 m and it is located in the central part of Mexico, 15 km away from Toluca and 60 km away from the country’s capital serving as an airport of Mexico city.
Industrial Zone
Before 1944, many industries settled in Toluca compared with other Mexican counties. 
In 1965, some industries settled on the industrial zone of Toluca-Lerma-Tianguistenco, that is located on the north side of Mexico-Toluca highway and railroad. 
This city is an important industrial center because geographically it is located in the heart of the economic activity of the center of the country. Industries and commerce of big infrastructure that produce drinks, food, textiles, cars, electric products, etc  are an example of what is found in this city
Toluca has a [large] infrastructure of highways that connect the city with the main cities of the country, Toluca’s International Airport, Bus Station and many industrial Parks, in which there are many important companies, such as Mercedes Benz, Coca Cola Femsa, Bimbo, Nissan, and Nestle.</ref> Blueapple23 18:31, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Very nice job. Information is written well (although don't include the markups I made. I went ahead and took them out, correcting the mistakes), and sources are cited properly. Go ahead and add this. J-ſtanTalkContribs 18:38, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes

message: Hi J-stan, we havent heard from you lately, we hope you are ok. Now we are working on creating a stub. We want to make it about "Quimera", which is a local event that happens here in Toluca. Do you think its ok?. We hope you can give us suggestions. Thank youBlueapple23 23:14, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey yeah, I'm doing ok. I went on a self enforced wikibreak for a couple of days, but I'm back. So Quimera. It sounds familiar. You will need to back up the information with reliable sources. I think I may have given you this article, but check out WP:RS for guidelines. Also, make sure it lives up to our notability standards. you might want to send it to articles for creation, to preserve your chances of keeping it out of articles for deletion. If you don't have a sandbox, put it in my sandbox so that I can take a look at it. J-ſtanTalkContribs 03:29, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

text: That's a good start. You have some good points. Now just rework it into article form, and let me see what comes of it. J-ſtanTalkContribs 02:46, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Stub

message: Please remember that you sign your posts on talk pages, but never in articles. Thank you and happy editing! --Geniac 18:54, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Signing 

message: Hello!!. For our final project we have to create a new article. We chose to write about Raul Velasco. Please, mentor and any other wikipedian who want to help us, would be great ! Thank you ! Blueapple23 18:26, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Raúl Velasco already exists. You may have to choose something else. --Geniac 19:10, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dang!  Guys... check :Category:Mexico stubs to find a topic!Thelmadatter 00:58, 10 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Your teacher asked you in the #Final Project section above to find a different topic because Raúl Velasco already exists. --Geniac 14:50, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The thing about Raul Velasco, is a Stub. Our teacher approve it.Blueapple23 19:16, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, thanks for letting me know. --Geniac 19:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Final Project

message: I've corrected some formatting and wording. I added blank lines between paragraphs to space them out a bit. I disabled the refs further up on this talk page when you were working on the Toluca article so they don't appear along with the refs for this most recent work on the Raúl Velasco article. When this text is added to the Raúl Velasco article, please be careful not to overwrite any existing useful text already there. --Geniac 18:46, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Raúl Velasco draft comments