Talk:List of U.S. municipalities in multiple counties

message: I found a source for Wisconsin (including both cities and villages), but I only transcribed two of the cities (Milwaukee and Wisconsin Dells). The source is a PDF file at http://www.doa.state.wi.us/docs_view2.asp?docid=3593. Mike Dillon 03:10, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It may be a little tedious, but GNIS has downloadable FIPS data sets. These can be loaded into Excel or a database and then filtered based on class code. Identifying entities that span counties is then a matter of looking for duplicate entries. The FIPS data may be getting a little stale (it doesn't show recent changes in status) and so might not indicate a city that has only recently expanded into another county. But I think it'd be pretty rare for a city to lose area after having once included land in multiple counties. It might be possible to get the same sort of info from the Gazetteer files, but I haven't looked closely at those. older ≠ wiser 04:09, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be good to get a single, authoritative source. Mike Dillon 04:30, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wisconsin source 

message: A couple of the Colorado entries (I didn't look through them all, but found at least Arvada, CO and Bow Mar, CO) don't indicate in their articles that they are in more than one county. Do the articles for those municipalties need to be updated? Mike Dillon 03:13, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, they do. In many of the cases, such as Arvada and Bow Mar, a small, rather "insignificant" portion of the municipality lies in the second county and thus it is not necessarily in the public awareness or currently reflected in their articles. Denvoran 06:22, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colorado entries 

message: Could we convert the article to one format or the other now? We've given it a few months and since Denvoran and I last discussed this topic, four states have been added. Three were added with list syntax (Pennsylvania, South Carolina, and Washington) and one was added with table syntax (Oregon). I still prefer the list-based presentation, but I don't want to fight about it. Can there be consensus? Mike Dillon 22:12, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formatting revisited 

message: I was going to re-do this list with data from the 2010 Census or latest GNIS data... but I've found more than 1,000 incorporated places in multiple counties (or parishes). Some of those cases stretch the limits of what should be in Wikipedia. It'd be helpful to specify more criteria in addition to incorporation.
Example criteria: Minimum population of each "part" (this can be found in Census table GCT-PH1). Town boundaries overlapping county water boundaries generally appear unremarkable. —Mrwojo (talk) 03:27, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  More criteria? 

message: Bartlesville, OK AmigoNico (talk) 06:36, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: as well as all other Oklahoma cities. Kennethaw88 (talk) 21:37, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

text: 2601:143:8003:6500:20AD:1AC3:63C9:1162 (talk) 06:40, 10 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't this be on the list? 

message: Since 2006, the article has claimed that Lansing, MI is in three counties: Clinton, Eaton, and Ingham. However, the Lansing, Michigan article only lists Eaton and Ingham. An unofficial search (i.e. Google Maps) shows that the north boundary of Lansing follows the Ingham-Clinton county line for about 3.5 miles but never actually crosses into Clinton County. The US Census Bureau does not offer Lansing as a civil division of Clinton County when looking up 2010 population figures. Should I have downloaded the FIPS data to make 100% certain Lansing is not in Clinton? Since the article does not use sources, how much proof is needed to make a deletion from the list? (There appears to be nobody claiming Lansing is in Clinton except for the article itself.)
Another potential source for conflict: the Lansing article mentions that Lansing controls several neighboring areas via 425 Agreement. The State of Michigan does not consider these annexations, but the Census Bureau does. I don't know how other federal agencies treat it. Thankfully these are all in Eaton and Ingham in this case, so that doesn't put Clinton back into the question. But a city could hypothetically control land with this agreement that is in a county where the city limits do not extend. If government agencies disagree on where a city boundary is, who is the definitive source?
Samtastic (talk) 21:40, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the claim was introduced with this edit to the Lansing article by an IP back in 2006. It was subsequently removed from the article, as the city in fact does not own the airport, but apparently this was propagated into the list article and went unnoticed until now. User:Criticalthinker  has also addressed this on the article talk page at Talk:Lansing, Michigan#Note 1. I think it is safe to say the three-county claim is spurious. There appears to be some basis for the two-county extent, though. older ≠ wiser 22:33, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Just an update, but as of a major/significant 425 Agreement with adjacent DeWitt Township late last year, Lansing now controls land in all three of these counties.  Lansing "annexed" its adjacent airport in Dewitt Township, Clinton County in November, I believe.  Not sure how you guys want to count 425 Agreements since they technically aren't annexations, but the Census recognizes them as such, and counts all population and land area towards the initiating party.  In this case, that would be Lansing.  To be clear, of Lansing's land area, it only TOTALLY controls areas in Ingham and Eaton counties, with some jurisdiction over the rest of the area in all three counties.  Hope this makes sense. --Criticalthinker (talk) 06:25, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know the situation in Lansing, but based on your description I'd suggest that (1) the article should tell about the "425 Agreement", including how it is handled in the census data, but (2) this list should name only the two counties. --Orlady (talk) 14:03, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Using sources and Lansing, MI 

message: It appears that, at least with regard to Maryland, some editors have confused the number of counties into which a city extends with the number of counties into which its postal area extends.  Since municipalities are rarely coextensive with their postal areas, the two should not be confused.  Doctor Whom (talk) 18:59, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cities versus postal areas