Talk:Camp Iguana

message: The DoD claimed Mohammed Jawad was 17 when he was captured.  However his family said he was born after his father was killed in battle around 1991.  Their claim is confirmed by his "inprocessing height".  He was only 5'4" and weighed just 119 pounds, when captured.  When he was finally released pictures of him show him towering over his relatives.  Seventeen year old individuals haven't reached their full adult height.  But they grow possibly an inch or two.  They don't grow an additional four, six or eight inches.  Geo Swan (talk) 13:12, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
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message: Rich, perhaps we can discuss this on the talk page, rather than engage in a bunch of edits and re-edits?
You added:
:...however the American government claimed that the Genvea Conventions were not applicable..
Was it the American government who claimed the Geneva Conventions didn't apply?  Or would it be more correct to say the Bush administration made the claim?  The judges who ruled that the suspects were entitled to a review by a competent tribunal were also part of the American government weren't they -- the judicial branch of the American government.
While this claim was made, it was over-ruled by the judicial branch.  The DoD cobbled together a tardy Combatant Status Review Tribunal procedure.  Justice Joyce Hens Green, who reviewed the decisions of these tribunals, together with the classified dossiers those decisions were based on ruled those tribunals unconstitutional.  
So, if you feel it is necessary to state that the claim was made, may I suggest it should be a separate sentence?  And it should be followed by a sentence saying the judicial branch over-ruled that claim, and forced the executive branch to conduct reviews.  --  Geo Swan 01:12, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Bush administration claim that detainees are not entitled to protection under the Geneva Conventions

message: How do you feel about merging Camp Delta, Camp X-ray Camp Iguana, and Camp Echo as a subsection to  Guantanamo Bay? Wouldn't it be better to have one, well-written, NPOV article, without all the mispellings and typos. Joaquin Murietta 22:24, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger

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Your assertion that the minors not detained in Camp Iguana were all over 16 is not only untrue, but it is disproved, with references, in the article itself.  
Elements of the Bush administration may assert that they are not obliged to protect minors who are aged 16-18.  But the United States is obliged to abide by International agreements that classify minors as all those aged 1-18.  Note: in official documents, the detainees who were under 18 were referred to solely by their initials -- acknowledgement that, as minors, they merited special protection.  --  Geo Swan 16:02, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "acknowledgement that, as minors, they merited special protection" - so it's okay to abuse children, torturing them, keep them from legal assistance: but printing their full name is forbidden??? --141.91.129.3 (talk) 12:37, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
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message: Someone changed the age at which the camp authorities stopped considering a teenager a minor, from 16 to 18.
It is a controversial decision, contrary to International law, which the Bush administration hasn't really explained or defended.  But, in Guantanamo, they only consider a teenager a minor if they are under 16.  So I changed it back.  --  Geo Swan 19:32, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Another contributor made edits asserting that the minors who weren't held in Camp Iguana were all between 16 and 18.  This is directly contradicted by our sources.  Possibly this is a good faith mistake by an inexperienced contributor -- but, in that case they really need to learn to check the references more thoroughly.  I changed it back.  Geo Swan (talk) 20:14, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: It looks like an error, but it isn't

message: This should be done in any of the Delta, Echo, Iguana articles with system described if possible.  --Daniel C. Boyer (talk) 19:05, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you sure that is necessary?  Delta and Echo are from the NATO phonetic alphabet.  Camp Iguana and Camp Justice aren't.  Geo Swan (talk) 12:41, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it is really needed. Although possibly. The "blocks" inside some camps are also NATO alphabet designated, with camp IV having Uniform, Victor, Whiskey, Yankee, and Zulu Blocks the five building names. Zulu block, bay 1, was the location of one ruckus in 2006, injuring a few people.( Martin |  talk • contribs  19:14, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Explanation of Alphabetical Naming

message: I am going to remove the neutrality tag as per this discussion.  Geo Swan (talk) 09:33, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  rm tag 

message: I reverted several misconceptions.
Someone mistakenly "corrected" the definition of minor (law) used at Guantanamo.  The domestic standard in the USA is under 18.
The international standard for child soldiers is under 18.  But, at Guantanamo, it is under 16.  
An IP who only made two edits total made some edits based on a misunderstanding of the Geneva Conventions.
They claimed that the Combatant Status Review Tribunals "promptly" determined the captives' status.  
Since the first CSR Tribunal wasn't convened until August 2004 I would challenge anyone calling them prompt.
And, what the article said was that the USA did not comply with the Geneva Conventions in determining the captive's
status.  Well, the CSR Tribunals did not fulfill the USA's obligations under the Geneva Conventions.
Cheers!  Geo Swan (talk) 08:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  explanation 

message: The Iqinn wiki-id spent 28 months working on articles related to the "global war on terror".  Practically everyone who tried to discuss anything with the individuals behind this ID found that they responded to good faith discussion with claims they were being harrassed, or with arguments that were not really coherent, and which often contradicted previous positions other individuals using the ID had put forward.
The wiki-id was the subject to blocks of increasing duration, due to unapologetic edit-warring -- finally winning an indefinite block, which was later confirmed for sockpuppetry.
One of Iqinn's favourite tactics was to place tags on articles, which the individuals behind the ID was unable or unwilling to defend.  Since Iqinn is no longer active to defend the  tag they slapped on this article I will wait a reasonable period of time, and if no one else steps forward to defend the tag, I am going to remove it.  Geo Swan (talk) 23:23, 5 February 2014 (UTC)
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