Talk:Hoshi Sato

message: Based on comments from episode writer Mike Sussman in 2005, the information regarding her death at Tarsus IV presented in "In A Mirrow, Darkly" should not be considered canon. The writers themselves were not even aware that it would be visible on screen. If such errors by the film makers were considered true canon, than even the date that Archer took over Enterprise would have to be changed.  See this post: http://www.trektoday.com/news/020505_01.shtml  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.122.234.57 (talk) 06:06, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing her death from Fate Section

message: There isn't an actual reason why this was added. (Did her character sleep around? Was it because she was Empress? Is it racial? Fanboy jealousy?)
Why was that bit added?
I'm going to remove it,  unless someone can follow it up with something reasonable...--Joel Lindley (talk) 17:29, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Writer Mike Sussman, said it was a comment or joke that had been made by cast and crew, that the mirror universe "put the Ho back in Hoshi" DVD special features, Inside the Mirror Episodes. Not only is it crass and unencyclopedic, it is trivial and not notable. -- 109.79.85.185 (talk) 14:16, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Putting the "Ho" in Hoshi

message: I have removed this from the article: She invented the universal translator which allows beings from virtually any species to communicate with any other.
From what canon source can this be attributed? She was a young ensign, using the UT throughout the series. You might think that the inventor of the UT could have retired to a tropical island somewhere with all of the royalties of such an extraordinary invention. At the very least, they might have given her a promotion to Lt. Did I miss an epsiode somewhere??? I don't recall any mention of her having invented the very thing that she was using on a day to day basis. func(talk) 18:15, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It was in "Demons". She invented the upgraded UT, at least. Her file from the regular-universe Defiant also claimed that she invented it. Adam Bishop 19:55, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: "Fight or Flight" also stated outright that she invented the UT. I'll put the reference back if it hasn't already been restored. 23skidoo 23:15, 22 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sigh...look, I don't own the DVDs yet, so I have no way of looking this up, but what I seem to recall from Fight or Flight was that she was having difficulties with the UT, ie: I have no problem with us talking about how Hoshi upgraded things, but she did not invent the thing. Does anyone have an actual quote from the episode in which it is "stated outright that she invented the UT"? func(talk) 03:28, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a line from Archer in which he is talking to Hoshi about "your Universal Translator", plus it's obvious from this episode and other early ones that the UT is still experimental. If that doesn't satisfy the burden of proof, let me turn your question back at you: is there is line of dialogue from any Trek episode in which it is stated that she did not invent the UT? Remember fanon doesn't count here, so if there's a novel or comic book or even a piece of printed reference material out there that gives the credit to someone else, it has to be ignored. Ditto for the invention of the transporter as per "Daedalus". 23skidoo 05:29, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Universal Translator 

message: You guys do of course realize she was never established as the inventor of the universal translator... in fact, from what can be seen, she likely prefers not to use it, being a skilled linguist. See the Memory Alpha pages on the UT and Hoshi Sato for more info. --172.153.237.221 06:18, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I do believe it is stated outright in Fight or Flight that she did indeed invent the device (look at the previous thread on this subject). And there's no evidence to suggest she doesn't like using it -- quite the contrary, she freaks on the few occasions in which she is called upon to translate without it. I just checked the two MA sources and neither contradicts this.23skidoo 06:21, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inventor of the universal translator? 

message: Her name is given as Hoshi Sato, but is Hoshi her family name of her given name. The crew refer to her as Hoshi, using that as her given name and she is also refered to as Ensign Sato, suggesting that sato is her family name. I know Japanese and many other eastern countries use the family name first when stating their name, so I was just wondering if her name in Japanese would be Sato Hoshi, giving her family name and then her given name. Any comments? --NeilEvans 18:49, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sato is the family name.  Hoshi is the given name.--70.59.231.189 21:08, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What is her family name?

message: Guys, I'm a brazilian citzen, and I have to say: This is the first time in Star Trek Saga what I saw a Starfleet caracter talking about my country.Congratulations!A question for the wikipedians: I have all ENT 4 seasons, and we; the brazilian fans are trying to discover the name of that language college where we saw Archer & Sato - 
(UnB - University of Brasilia, perheaps?).Any opinion about that, lets talk about, OK? TKS!
Bryard (talk) 13:13, 7 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Hoshi and Brazil

message: It's not canon, but it's a fact in peactime navies (military organizations generally) have slow rate of promotion. Not that ST paid much attention to military reality...or Sisko'd have been an Admiral before the end of DS9....  Trekphiler 21:50, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rank: Admiral

message: If her name is indeed the common Japanese surname 佐藤, then it should be spelled Satō, that is さとう, not さと, to correctly indicate the long vowel in Japanese. However, as she is a fictional character, and may very well be referred to as "Sato", not the more linguistically correct Satō, Satou, or Satô, on scripts or other official documents, or in the show itself, I am wondering what the consensus may be on her name. On a similar note, do we know for sure that her given name is Hoshi (星), meaning "star", and not Hōshi, which would imply different kanji and thus different meaning?
Are kanji given for her name in any official documents - scripts, Official Star Trek Factbooks, or the like? If not, I think it would be best to not guess at the appropriate kanji; as a character in an American show, where the scripts and everything are written in English, her name is best represented in English (romaji). LordAmeth (talk) 13:58, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Japanese name