Wikipedia talk:Featured Music Project

message: :I put the below on the project page as a proposal, and reproduce it here for comment.  Please ignore User:TUF-KAT/Featured Music Project/Status, as it is now outdated. Tuf-Kat
Each article on a musician or group of musical performers should be evaluated according to the above criteria on the article's talk page.  Each section of criteria (e.g. "Sales", "Discography") should be evaluated on a pass/fail basis.  If an article passes all but three or fewer categories, it should be added to the status page (which uses a transcluded subpage like Wikipedia:FMP/Bob Marley).
The FMP page documents the article's progression like an ongoing peer review.  It might be wise to use subpages so that one can easily look at all the articles that are pretty good (because they fail no more than three categories) but need work on their lead, or on sound samples, or referencing, or whatever.
Once an article is declared passing under all the criteria, it enters the "polishing" phase, which is sort of like PR.  The same subpage is used and more specific comments about individual issues are given, if needed.  Once there's a consensus to do, it would be nominated for FAC through the normal process.
* No-one seems to of evaluated Vanilla Ninja lately. As I'm the only contributor to it, and as it was on FARC in August or so (just after it was on the main page), maybe it needs a review. I think it is still a worthy FA as of now. Hedley 21:05, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evaluating articles 

message: I thought this would be about musical media :-)  Off to Commons to look for same.  +sj + 19:21, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shucks, no tunes? 

message: Tuf-Kat, can I make a suggestion for a possible change in the Lead requirements of the "Featured Music Project"?  Both myself (with the Phil Collins article) and Dharmabum420 (with the Pink Floyd article) have votes going on for FAC (at [] and  [], respectively).  So far, the reviews have generally been positive, but it has been noted in both of our reviews by two different reviewers that the lead's were too long.  Both articles originally had four paragraphs in the lead, as was suggested here, but we both have been referred to WP:LEAD with its recommendation of 3 paragraphs.  As such, I believe it would be better to decrease the Music Project lead requirement, or L1, from 2-4 paragraphs to 2-3 paragraphs.
Let me know what you think!
--Ataricodfish 08:09, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, they're only meant to reflect consensus, and that's apparently the consensus. Tuf-Kat 08:36, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm with Ataricodfish and yourself on the issue; consensus seems to run to 2-3 paragraphs, so that's what we'll give them. :) - dharmabum 09:29, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Lead" suggestion 

message: I suggest you call it Featured Artist Project-- I was at first under the impression that genre articles were included in this project.--Urthogie 16:22, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Featured Artist Project" can be vague too (Pablo Picasso is an artist).  Changing it to indicate it's for popular Western music would probably make the name a bit unwieldy.  And I don't really think it's necessary to exclude other performers -- some of the guidelines obviously won't apply in many cases, but I think it's reasonable to expect common sense, and substitute appropriately (Beethoven doesn't need a Discography section, but he does need a list of compositions, and all the guidelines for the discography can be basically applied to that list too, for example).  Tuf-Kat 03:36, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How's about Featured Musical Artists Project?--Urthogie 10:12, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Still seems more unwieldy than necessary, but I won't argue too much. Tuf-Kat 17:32, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Featured Musicians Project.  I'm moving it.--Urthogie 17:59, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, but please move the whole thing, including the subpages, the artist subpages, and update the template on the status page. Tuf-Kat 04:38, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved it back.  If you'd like to change the name, please change everything at once. Tuf-Kat 05:44, 26 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  rename the project 

message: I don't understand requiring sound samples.  It's a likely copyvio, IMO.  An image is inline, and mixed with the article, forming a small part of larger work.  The sound is not.   It's a separate link, independent of the article.  It's awfully unlikely there will be signficant discussion of the clip in the article.  Since the user has to follow a link to play the sound, why not just send them to an external link, where they can hear an authorized sample (such as a link to part of the artist's web site).  If there's no authorized sample, we probably souldn't provide a sample.  This page should only be recommending things that are clearly desireable.  This is questionable.  We should strive to make as many 100%-free articles as possible.  The current wording is actually suggesting a 100% free is almost never good enough.   --Rob 17:25, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  sound samples 

message: I've been working on the Pete Doherty article for a while now and have been trying to shape it into something that resembles a good article. At first it seemed to have a lot of POV statements and a fairly horribly put together section on his arrests. I've tidied the article up, referenced etc. Would this article be suitable to be taken under the wing of this project? The reason I ask is because much of the article is not related to his music, and I feel this area could definately due with some expansion. I'm doing what I can but I'd appreciate any assistance. Super Ted 19:36, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pete Doherty?

message: WP:MUSICIAN has been started which is a bit more general than this project (it has a lot to do with organization instead of just content), but I think it can benefit a great deal from the work that's gone into this project, especially in defining article guidelines. I hope some of the folks involved in this project would be interested in spending some time to help get that project underway, and to help the two projects co-exist. B.Mearns*, KSC 21:11, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Musicians