Talk:Boris Nemtsov

message: It is notable that nothing in the article was said about this guys impact on economy of Nizhny Novgorod and Russia as a whole. After reading the article it starts to seem that he was a positive and revolutionary figure on Russia's political scene, while in reality he was widely disliked for many embezzlements in NN, strictly negative results of his reforms and his relationships with various criminal circles. He was actually called "curly scum" BEFORE he was all but forgotten. All this should at least be mentioned as there is not a single word about how he was looked at in Russia.95.220.88.75 (talk) 13:50, 11 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  There seems to be an attitude that all Putin opponents are good and their sins are mentioned as little as possible. What is generally not understood in western/English language circles is the chaos and anarchy of the Yeltsin years. Freedom was used for defrauding plus more. Yeltsin himself became aware of it which is why Putin became the 4th Prime Minister for the year 1999 to be put in place by Yeltsin. Yeltsin was also on 60 Minutes then and you can see how desperate he was inside about what he had unleashed. It was probably 1998 that interview where he plays tennis. Someone needs to give the world a detailed account how 'wonderful' the freedom under Yeltsin was. 2001:8003:AC99:3B00:E1C3:16D:409E:2EDE (talk) 06:35, 21 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Economical impact on Russia and Nizhny Novgorod

message: This article has category "Jewish politician". Is there any source that he is Jewish?
As I know he is Christian, goes to the chirch.--213.141.142.41 10:17, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He was not Jewish in the sense of practicing that religion, but his ancestry certainly was. At the moment the article states that he was Jewish only from his mother's side, but this is certainly not entirely true. Both of his paternal grandparents, too, are buried at the Jewish graveyard in Moscow and his paternal grandfather David Israilevich had an obviously Jewish name. Grandmother Anna may have been Russian Orthodox by birth as Nemtsov claimed. For evidence their grave can be viewed here:  -89.66.180.105 (talk) 00:20, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jewish politician 

message: Compared to Vladimir Putin, this guy gets portrayed here as some sort of hero. Margaret Thatcher lauded him? Everybody in Nizhi Novgorod knows the truth about those years.
In fact, when Yeltsin and nemtsov were ruling Russia, they had Andrey Klimentiev sacked as a mayor when in the fraud case against him Klimentiev threatened to spill the beans about the way Nemtsov amassed his fortune. When his party's fortunes started to wane, they even tried to get Boris Yeltsin out of retirement to take the leadership away from Nemtsov who had become a liability: (translation from a Russian newspaper article). --Paul Pieniezny (talk) 09:10, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Listening to Webster Tarpley's World Crisis Radio on a podcast from January 22, 2011, several interesting facts about Nemtsov is presented, amongst them being that he is being propped up by the US as a presidential candidate to contest Putin in the 2012 elections. __meco (talk) 11:14, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hero worship? 

message: This edit changes the date of death from 27 February to 28 February. Is there any reason for that? -BStarky (talk) 23:59, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of death 

message: Mr. Nemtsov: I think there is much freedom of the press, maybe more than in the United
States. There are not only liberal viewpoints on Russia's television programs, but also anti-
Semitic', fascist, and nationalist viewpoints. Russia has a huge number of independent...
he quoted sematnic freedom to anisemitmitism and 'shot just outside the walls of the Kremlin!' but the shot come from opsite site to the urbi and gorbi window so can we put in the frame ? 99.90.196.227 (talk) 05:12, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  qui bono 

message: There is no reason to create a separate article. This article is not so large as to make it needed. See WP:WHENSPLIT. I do not see a size or content reason to split. I hope this can do done speedily. Richard-of-Earth (talk) 08:50, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The article just was created. Let's see how it develops. Therefore, I would oppose merging at this time. I also think this should be "murder" rather than "killing". My very best wishes (talk) 14:13, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't see the need, yet, to create the Murder article (and it obviously should be "Murder of Boris Nemtsov"), but there is even less need to delete or merge away that article.  This event is much more important in Russia and the entire world other than North America, than the shooting of Gabrielle Giffords, and will be considered important for years to come (at least until the retirement of Putin). There will be an extensive investigation - now led personally by Putin - that will be reported around the world, e.g. on BBC, for years.  There will be extensive complaints that the state investigation is a coverup.  (Once you've seen one of these Russian political assassinations, you've seen them all, see e.g. Vladislav Listyev - but this is likely the most important one in decades).  Smallbones(smalltalk) 14:41, 28 February 2015 (UTC)

text: Comment  See the Assassination of Anna Politkovskaya. The Killing of Boris Nemtsov is likely to be of similar length, when translated from the Russian version. He was also a former deputy Prime Minister of Russia, and still had years of potential high-level political career ahead of him, therefore of greater consequence than the assassination of Anna Politkovskaya. Depending on one's point of view, this may justify giving the article separate notability, according to WP:WHENSPLIT. EP111 (talk) 15:04, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Killing of Boris Nemtsov 

message: Maybe it could be good to edit this part as it sounds as if he had 4 children with his wife. But he had only one daughter with her - Zhanna. 2 children he had with a journalist Ekaterina Odintsova (Anton and Dina). His fourth child is Sofia from an affair with his secretary Irina Koroleva.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Oksanchic (talk • contribs) 11:43, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal life 

message: view complete news about his assassination here. Source
so wikipedia knows the murderer?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.33.229.32 (talk) 17:26, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Should statements implying that the Kremlin had a hand in his assassination be labeled "conspiracy theories?"--NYCJosh (talk) 22:36, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  assassination 

message: There are two transliterations in the article. Of course, the father's name must be uniform with its spelling as well. tAD (talk) 07:12, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There really isn't a "standard" transliteration system, but I'd say that "Yefimovich" is as close to standard as can be expected.  Is this the LOC system?  Do we have anything in the WP:MOS on this?  Smallbones(smalltalk) 14:30, 1 March 2015 (UTC)

text: see Russian alphabet and Ye (Cyrillic) for pronunciation. I would write his patronymic name as Yefimovich, as the cyrillic "E" is at the beginning of the word. Regards, EP111 (talk) 20:34, 1 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Efimovich or Yefimovich? 

message: would info taken from an RT broadcast be legit?
VC 02:11, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd use with care, especially in this context. They can be reliable especially if there are no other available sources for a small factual detail, but they have been accused of being controlled by Putin so watch out for spin Elinruby (talk) 05:32, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  RT 

message: There is no reason to have this sentence in the lead: "A dramatic news photo showed his body 'by accident or design theatrically placed' with the Kremlin and a lighted Saint Basil's Cathedral behind." And even if it did belong, it would be nice to link to the article mentioned. Fnordware (talk) 20:09, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo info 

message: 31% of the introduction of the article deals with Nemtsov's death. Is his assassination really worth a third of everything the man has achieved in his lifetime? Furthermore, a big chunk of the intro insinuates that Putin was involved in the killing, by writing sentences along the lines of "at the time of his death he was critical of Putin", "he said that Putin wanted him killed", "he was killed when he was plotting against Putin", while we have yet to find out the results of the ongoing investigation. It really would be a shame if Wikipedia was used to exploit Nemtsov's tragic death for political goals against Vladimir Putin. --UrbanVillager (talk) 01:49, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes.Volunteer Marek (talk) 02:23, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  The assassination is extremely relevant to the article..information regarding it should not be abridged or stifled in any way. 66.177.244.25 (talk) 21:17, 4 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Very few people in the west would have heard of the man had he not been assassinated, I think. Despite my warning above, there does seem to be an overwhelming consensus that it *was* an assassination. But yes, Wikipedia should be very wary of seeming to endorse the idea that it was necessarily Putin. Even if individual editors believe this. 173.164.138.205 (talk) 22:21, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death 

message: http://uk.reuters.com/article/2015/03/05/uk-russia-nemtsov-ukraine-idUKKBN0M120620150305
--YeOldeGentleman (talk) 21:10, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exclusive - Scribbled note shows Nemtsov on trail of Russian deaths in Ukraine 

message: Recently, Designer Anna Lesnikova appeared publicly and admitted that she and Nemtsov were in secret relationship for years and she gave birth to a child of Nemtsov (Danilo 17 years old). Designer Anna Lesnikova said: "I gave birth to a son by Boris Nemtsov and my son has a right to the inheritance!”
Interview of Anna Lesnikova Source:
http://super.ru/news/113717
Catherine Iftodi, a Russian TV presenter, also revealed that she was in secret sexual relationship with Nemtsov and she gave birth to his child on 2014 (Boris 1 year old). She stated that she is going to fight for inheritance at the court to ensure her son’s right.
Interview of Catherine Iftodi Source:
http://super.ru/news/113622  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iambleeding4assyria (talk • contribs) 23:34, 7 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Illicit sexual relationships with mistresses and illegitimate sons  

message: Hey, this page seems to show some major differences to the Russian language version of the page. Here it states that Boris Nemtsov was assassinated but it is never specifically stated which group or organisation had committed the act. On the Russian language version however, it states that he had put out Islamphobic comments and that he was apparently assassinated by Islamists. The english language version of the page makes no reference to this and I am wondering if this should be put in the page. The differences are unclear but I believe that the Russian side of the story should be mentioned side by side with the version that has been written. Cheers.
--Sendator (talk) 12:06, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Very few sources, if any, point to that theory. DaltonCastle (talk) 22:07, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparison to the Russian Language Version 

message: I don't know about any other westerners (Oz here), but I nearly always hear him called the opposition leader by our media (Even A.B.C. & S.B.S). I have heard this is wrong, and he has very little support in Russia. I think, if this is common in other countries also, that it should be clearly mentioned he is NOT the opposition leader, despite what our cappie propaganda says. The Pastafarian Church (talk) 18:40, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The minor 'major opposition' 

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message: I have removed the See Also section since all it contains is a link to "unsolved murders", whereas it is known who killed Nemtsov.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.211.109 (talk) 04:30, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  See also 

message: Anonymous editor () has dealt [here] with 2 out of 5 passages sourced from a reference called "early_profile" (I just renamed it EarlyProfile), replacing the source but keeping "early_profile" as the ref name. There are 3 more passages sourced from "early_profile", either covered by the new Russian-language source he has introduced, or maybe not. I cannot tell. In order to be on the safe side, for those 3 I've put back in the old source. "100.19.10.178" doesn't seem to be an experienced editor, as he has introduced twice the entire set of details for his new source (I removed the second, and used a new ref name for all instances where he clearly intended to source things from that particular book he brought in). All of it needs to be checked!!! Arminden (talk) 18:10, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
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