Talk:WJCT

message: I was bold and merged the WJCT (TV) and WJCT-FM into this article. They're run together by the same entity, so there's no real benefit to having separate articles (and just a dab page located at WJCT).--Cúchullain t/c 18:17, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: I propose that this article be split into separate pages called WJCT (TV) and WJCT-FM. The content of the current page seems off-topic and these sections are large enough to make their own page. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 19:57, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. It’s one entity that does radio, tv, and web. There at least needs to be a base article covering the entity.—Cúchullain t/c 14:46, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Too soon. We need to get other users' opinions and seek consensus. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 15:21, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

text: Split into 3 articles. I agree with the split as other combination radio/T.V. operations are done this way. However, I also agree that there can be a base article covering the parent organization.Stereorock (talk) 14:54, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Here you go: WJCT, Inc. - future article on the parent organization. Mvcg66b3r (talk) 15:11, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! That keeps in line with other articles like WGBH!Stereorock (talk) 16:12, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

text: WJCT is the logical place for a base article. I’ll be restoring it and working on the article here. There’s no real need for sub articles on TV and radio, but if people want them, they can be split off from here.—Cúchullain t/c 16:04, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment. There is a need for individual articles about WJCT (TV) & WJCT-FM as these are 2 separate stations with 2 distinct licenses & histories. Yes, they are under the same ownership, but that's all they really have in common. Convention is each licensed station gets its own article unless that station is part of something like a regional network, which neither station is. For what is being proposed, the WGBH pages are a good place to start.Stereorock (talk) 16:09, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: That's not accurate. The TV and radio stations have always been part of the same organization since radio was added in 1972. Their histories aren't separable, and there's no reason to have separate articles if there wasn't an article on the organization itself, as that's the notable part of the subject.--Cúchullain t/c 18:26, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: WGBH & WGBH-TV have always been under the same organization too. However, they are separate stations because of broadcast service, programming, etc.. WJCT should cover the organization, WJCT-FM should cover the radio station specifically, & WJCT (TV) should cover the television station specifically. Sorry for the delay, just saw this.Stereorock (talk) 08:28, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: That's more a flaw of the way Wikipedia has handled these articles. But if folks want separate articles for TV and radio, there's no reason they can't also exist in addition to the base article on the whole organization.--Cúchullain t/c 13:48, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Which is what there should be, with each station’s article containing detailed information about that station, & the organization’s page contains information about the organization itself, with very rudimentary information about the stations (frequency/channel, etc.).Stereorock (talk) 15:51, 2 August 2019 (UTC)

text: The sources for WJCT as one unit are as strong as the sources given in either article now. Readers would benefit more from one decent article than from two poor ones. That's not to say the TV and radio branches can't have their own articles as well, if the sources support that.--Cúchullain t/c 18:26, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

text: I reverted the technical move. This isn't eligible for a technical move as it's obviously challenged, as you know from participating in this discussion. The current setup seems the best way to handle things for readers. We'd be much better off if people spent less time moving things around and more time improving the content.--Cúchullain t/c 13:30, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: , You unilaterally reverted the move without even discussing it at WP:RM/TR before Anthony Appleyard moved it. BTW, are you even from the Jacksonville area? Mvcg66b3r (talk) 16:56, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  I had no way of seeing it at WP:RM/TR until after Anthony moved it. Again, this is not eligible for a technical request since - as you knew - it wasn't uncontroversial. And not that it matters where I'm from, but I am from Jacksonville and have edited dozens if not hundreds of articles on the area.--Cúchullain t/c 17:28, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split proposal