Talk:C major

message: The general creator of the key articles lists the songs in chronological order. However, one very recent edit to A major put the songs in alphabetical order. Any discussion?? Georgia guy 21:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Order of songs 

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thread_title: Image links

message: This information is not relevant here and borders on spam. C major should not be an indiscriminate list of things vaguely associated with the key of C major. The nature of Western musical notation is that a blank staff has no sharps or flats; a piece of software designed to produce this notation would logically and obviously start a blank document in C major as well.
Please, let's not reintroduce this bizarre sentence that detracts from the focus of the article. —ptk✰fgs 22:49, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it is also the default key of Sibelius and probably every notation program. People just love those WP:NOTs, don't they? But it does apply to this article, but not to the mentioning of Finale, but to those indiscriminate listings of pop songs in C major. Anton Mravcek 21:31, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, those should go too. But if the point we want to make is that notation software assumes C major by default, we should just say that instead of this weird blip about one particular application. —ptk✰fgs 21:49, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. There's Sibelius and a whole bunch of others, including DAWs that also do notation, like Digital Performer. Volunteer Sibelius Salesman 20:12, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Default key of Finale document 

message: I'm not sure to what extent changes to an article should be explained or justified, especially if they're not obvious - but:
I added comments contrasting the simplicity usually attributed to C major with Chopin's regard of it as the most difficult scale for beginning students.
I changed "Te Dea" to "settings of 'Te Deum'", because not only is the Latin plural incorrect, but, even if the correct Latin plural form were used (presumably in the accusative case), the actual plural form (in Latin) for "God" does not seem called for here, but rather the plural of the title as a whole, treated as an English usage.  This would presumably be simply "Te Deums", or, perhaps a little more elegantly, "settings of 'Te Deum'".
Finally, I changed the style of attribution of names of two Schubert symphonies from "called" to "nicknamed", because the former seems to imply that Schubert himself called the symphonies the names cited, which he almost certainly did not. M.J.E. 17:06, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your edit seems well-founded.  However, I generally find it unnecessary for one to explain one's edits unless someone disputes them.  Just for future reference. SpinyMcSpleen 19:16, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you think anyone will dispute them, I think it's a good idea to err on the side of  explaining more than is necessary. A dead language like Latin sure is the sort of stuff some people love to split hairs over. Jindřichův Smith 04:32, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Explantion of changes just made. 

message: I like the lists- for those who are not as mucially inclined, it's easy to choose a song from the list and play it mentally. Then one can know what the key sounds like.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.83.162.78 (talk) 02:53, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Lists

message: Mariah Carey's "We Belong Together" is in A minor, not C major.  A minor is the relative minor of C major—they share the same key signature (or lack thereof) of no sharps or flats—but they should not be confused with each other.  It is true that there are virtually no sharp sevenths (G-sharps) in the piece, but many pop songs in minor keys do not have sharp sevenths.  It is even more common in dance music.--Simonsa (talk) 05:38, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "We Belong Together" 

message: Add these songs to the list if you can find sources for them:
Don't Mean Nothing - Richard Marx
Great Balls of Fire - Jerry Lee Lewis
Imagine - John Lennon
Jump - Van Halen
Let It Be - The Beatles
True Love - Glenn Frey
Unchained Melody - The Righteous Brothers
Written in the Stars - Elton John and LeAnn Rimes 24.158.8.234 (talk) 18:33, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources for Songs

message: What is the meaning of the statement "Many instruments, such as the piano, are tuned in C"?  Any fully chromatic instrument, such as the piano, is tuned equally in all keys. If the intention is to state that those instruments are non-transposing, that only means that the written pitch and the sounding pitch are the same, unlike a transposing instrument such as (for example) the English horn, which sounds a perfect fifth lower than written so that it can be played by an oboist using the same fingerings as the oboe. Purely as a matter of convention, transposing instruments are named by the pitch that sounds when the performer plays a written "C", so that (for example) the English horn is said to be "in F". For that reason any instrument which does not transpose is said to be "in C", but that has nothing whatever to do with the key of C major. Since the standard tuning pitch in our day is "A", you could just as well choose to identify transposing instruments by the pitch they produce when the performer plays a written "A", so the tenor sax would be "in G", the alto sax "in C" ind the piano "in A", which would have nothing to do with the key of A. That we choose C as the standard shows that tradition has made it a kind of "default"; but that is all. Fenneck (talk) 05:07, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tuned in C 

message: This classical music elitism is just dumb as hell, it's not the only well known music.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.28.185 (talk) 19:49, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Relevant to what? What does this have to do with the article? Hyacinth (talk) 11:37, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is western classical music always the only relevant music? 

message: the keyboard layout is centered around the key of c (or a minor) but it's tuned in equal temperament?
the remark in the article should be in an article about keyboard layouts for keyboard instruments not in this article amirite?
//ml  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.66.94.4 (talk) 16:41, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Many instruments, such as the piano, are tuned in C." <--- what does that even mean? 

message: It is one of the 100 most performed songs of the 20th century and is unanimously acclaimed by critics, usually somewhere in the top 5 recordings of all-time (Rolling Stone, Time, VH1, etc).  John Lennon himself is one of the most important figures in music history, being the leader of a band that went on to be the most successful recording artists ever (The Beatles).  He has sold more then one billion records world-wide.  You can go to South America or Japan and people will know this song.  The song has a perfect melody, and is just as important as any piece written in musical notation.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.231.28.185 (talk) 01:11, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What does that have to do with the key of C major and this article? Hyacinth (talk) 11:38, 10 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Does anyone have a citation for that claim? Hyacinth (talk) 03:45, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Lennon- Imagine 

message: Only the contra-bass tuba (16-ft.) is in C, nor are the trombone, flute, piccolo, bassoon, or oboe "in C". Just because an instrument doesn't transpose does not mean it's "in C", as has been much discussed above apropos of the piano. Nor, for that matter, is, e.g., a clarinet really "in B-flat", as in order to be "in" any key an instrument has to have that key's tonic as a fundamental tone and draw other picthes from the harmonic series of that tone, which only brass instruments really do as the usual method of tone-production. --Mahlerlover1 (converse) 23:40, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-transposing instruments 

message: "Among brass instruments, the more common trumpet is the trumpet in C, and the contra-bass tuba is in C. A harp tuned to C major has all its pedals in the middle position"
I was under the impression the entire time I played trumpet in high school and college that it was a B♭ instrument.  I may be missing something here but I know I had to transpose to B♭ when reading piano music.  The link in this article to trumpet seems to indicate that it is commonly in B♭. If I am just wrong, please explain so I don’t stay wrong.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.67.110.40 (talk) 23:54, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Common trumpet is B♭ 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :B-sharp major. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 31#B-sharp major until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:06, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "B-sharp major" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :D-double-flat major. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 31#D-double-flat major until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:27, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "D-double-flat major" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: C Major Chords: The chords in C Major are built from the scale notes. The three primary chords in the key of C Major are the C Major chord (C-E-G), the F Major chord (F-A-C), and the G Major chord (G-B-D). These chords are called the I, IV, and V chords respectively. 2601:807:8380:B1B0:C0CF:7C35:954A:CE6A (talk) 15:58, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  C major Chord scale