Talk:Dust (His Dark Materials)

message: This article seems to have a lot of original research. I don't remember it ever being explicitly stated that Dust is what gives the armoured bears their ability to see truth, or allows the witches to use magic. There's no source given in the article. 90.212.82.155 (talk) 10:36, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Or that intercision performed on an adult acts like that. I'm moving the OR claim up. Rawling4851 21:39, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I presume the 'effect on adults' is a reference to 'Subtle Knife' referring to being eaten, rather than intercision. i've tidied slightly though this COULD be re-phrased, since I'm not sure that this is seperation and whether Dust is referred to. Pincrete (talk) 16:44, 4 January 2015 (UTC)

text: I don't know if you will return to read this, but '92.238.93.77', the answer to your question is probably that it comes from an academic called Leonard Wheat (and his fans). Personally, I find his theories nonsense, however the biggest problem is not simply the oddness of his theories, so much as that these theories have been interjected into HDM articles as facts. I (today) have done a temporary fix on the Dust page to attribute that whole section to Wheat (it has no other sources). I've spent a lot of time since December trying to clean up, tidy and rationalise all the HDM pages. Dust has been on my list but I've lately got a bit bored with it all. If you know/like the book, why not join me??Pincrete (talk) 14:52, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  OR 

message: Anyone have a view on potential relationship between Dust and Karmic particles - particularly as in the Jain form (see below from other Wikepedia entry)
Karma in Jainism conveys a totally different meaning as commonly understood in the Hindu philosophy and western civilization.[32] In Jainism, karma is referred to as karmic dirt, as it consists of very subtle and microscopic particles i.e. pudgala that pervade the entire universe.[33] Karmas are attracted to the karmic field of a soul on account of vibrations created by activities of mind, speech, and body as well as on account of various mental dispositions. Hence the karmas are the subtle matter surrounding the consciousness of a soul. When these two components, i.e. consciousness and karma, interact, we experience the life we know at present.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.169.134.226 (talk) 08:56, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dust - in relation to Karma 

message: The earlier version of the Dust article, though superficially accurate, completely overlooked the symbolic meaning and significance of Dust.  The new section brings out the essence and meaning of Pullman's most basic symbol, Dust.  Pullman is, in effect, symbolically retelling A.D. White's 1896 classic, A History of the Warfare of Science [knowledge, dust] with Theology [religious superstition, specters].
Atticusattor (talk) 22:44, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Dust as the Symbol of Knowledge

message: This article is almost completely unreadable.  There are lucid moments, and then the babbling of your crazy aunt, or maybe they are her lucid moments in a sea of babbling.  This is not encyclopedic material.  Purge, and begin anew. Wjhonson (talk) 20:23, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have just got round to a fairly major 'clean up' including removal of 'Wheat', which doesn't refer to dust specifically at all. Hope the 'babbling of your crazy aunt', factor is lessened. Pincrete (talk) 16:37, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: What

message: Anyone know whether these are the same? Aletheometry being an invention of James Joyce (FW370.13:9) 194.207.86.26 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 13:50, 7 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alethiometers and Aletheometry