Talk:Vijñāna

message: On Oct. 18, 2007, an anonymous user inserted the following information in the opening paragraph:
:It [] can also be translated as "divided knowing", in contrast to Jnana.
Six-and-a-half hours afterwards, I added a  tag with this Edit Summary:
:please cite pertinent source. thanks! In particular, while the stated etymology ("divided knowing") is readily defensible, the contrast to "jnana" is something I'd appreciate some education on.
It's been two weeks and there's been no response, so I am going to delete this uncited text (along with the associated "See also" addition of Jnana).  If someone, perhaps prompted by my deletion, decides to re-add the deleted text, please do so with a citation or, minimally, providing a rational basis here.  I'd very much appreciate any justifying insight.  With metta, Larry Rosenfeld (talk) 18:02, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Uncited "contrast to Jnana" claim

message: #Vijñāna(විඥ්ඥාන)  5 senses ( eye, ear, nose , tongue and body ) when  stimulated by the environment the sense react to that stimulant, that reaction what is called  Vijñāna . so more appropriate word for Vijñāna is perception.
#Manas(මනෝ ,මනස ) All those information received from 5 senses  go to the brain, the brain begins to  do the thinking putting the information together and compare with the past experiences and gives meanings.That is what is called Manas .
#Chitta(චිත්ත)  Once you given a meaning to what you saw, An emotion is aroused ,that means you like  thing that you saw or you hate ,worried about ,frighten..   these are the emotions,and that emotion part is what Buddha called Chitta.According to the emotion aroused ,an action take place  in the form of speech or behavior that is what is called Karma --RsEkanayake 17:27, 3 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:   [[Vijñāna]] (විඥ්ඥාන), [[Manas]](මනෝ ,මනස ) and [[Chitta]](චිත්ත)  

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message: Thanissaro is quoted as saying that ("the cause for the arising of consciousness (viññāṇa) is the arising of one of the other aggregates (physical or mental); and the arising of consciousness in turn gives rise to one or more of the mental (nāma) aggregates"). 
This elaborate and confusing explanation arises from unjustified translation of vinnana and nama-rupa as consciousness and menality-physicality. Nama-rupa is quite literally "named form" and refers to distinctions, concepts or conceptualisation, the mental manifestations of observed forms (rupa). Discernment or discrimination or perception or sentience (vinnana) is dependant upon distinctions and concepts (nama-rupa); and in turn distinctions (nama-rupa) are dependant upon discrimination (vinnana).
As observe (sanna) and value (vedana) external forms (rupa) and construct (sankhara) concepts (mental forms, nama-rupa) for perception, sentience (vinnana).
Sanna is not perception (etymology San=Con, Ña=Gno, thus cognition), the closest modern term might be qualia (literally red, blue, yellow, white according to the Buddha himself). Vedana is not feeling but rather valent emotive tone (painful, pleasant and ambivalent). Sankhara is construction (both the verb and noun, used in context of building chariots, houses, and the sense of self. In both modern and ancient India, in the sense of rituals, "character building", "making a man", rites of passage). Vinnana is not consciousness but only the sensual experience of nama-rupa, animation, life (even soul or psyche fits). Alexgenaud (talk) 13:42, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nama-rupa is not mind-body duality 

message: As an aid to expanding the Hindu part of this page, here are several mentions of the term vijnana in the Upanishads, many of them early: Brihadaranyaka Upanishad 2:1:16-17, 2:4:12-13; Chandogya Upanishad 7:7:1-2, 7:8:1, 7:26:1, Taittiriya Upanishad 2:4:1, 2:5:1, 2:6:1, 3:5:1, Subala Upanishad 5:1-15, 9:1-14, Kaivalya Upanishad 4. This may not be exhaustive. Of course there are limits to what can be done on Wikipedia here w/o secondary sources. But the frequency of early Upanishadic references suggests that there should be a long history of this term in Hinduism, allowing expansion. --Presearch (talk)  23:09, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clues for expansion: Some references in Upanishads