Talk:Notes inégales

message: The 'History' section currently opens with "The practice of applying unequal treatment to successive notes with the same notated value... ".  But isn't that the wrong way around?  It suggests that the notation dictates the performance.  Bur surely, before all that, comes the composition which ultimately aims at a performance, not notation; the composer uses notation merely as a convenient carrier towards performance (a little like the wrapping around a candy bar).  Wouldn't "The practice of notating unequal note lengths with equal value..." be better?  (Neither is perfect, but both fall short in the same manner, namely, failing to mention notes being in pairs. So so let's not get distracted by that imperfection quite yet.) Feline Hymnic (talk) 14:15, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You can switch it around if you like -- it makes sense that way.  (I wrote this more than six years ago and no longer remember my thought process; I probably had several books open in front of me.)  The writeup in the current New Grove by David Fuller does imply that the performers were enlivening what was already notated.  (I probably used the 1980 Grove article by the same writer, which I don't have in front of me at the moment.)  Likely it went both ways.  The current summary at the top of their article dodges the issue of which comes first:  "A rhythmic convention according to which certain divisions of the beat move in alternately long and short values, even if they are written equal." Antandrus  (talk) 14:26, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Composition, notation and performance 

message: Re:
: This famous trumpet tune is actually a French baroque work by Jean-Joseph Mouret incorrectly attributed to Jeremiah Clarke. 
I've never seen any such misattribution. There is a piece by Clarke called "trumpet voluntary" (aka Prince of Denmark's march, a wedding staple), and another "Trumpet Tune" from an opera, so maybe occasionally people have confused those with the Masterpiece Theatre theme, but I'd like to see some documentation the the Mouret work has been misattributed in any significant way. —Wahoofive (talk) 18:30, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jeremiah Clarke? 

message: I've been reading this alternative treatment of Notes Inégales. Does anyone know more about it? It is published work, published in Orphei Organi Antiqui. The ideas are really interesting and personally I find them more convincing than the idea of a strictly uneven approach with all the notes "swung" by exactly the same amount. That always seemed to me a little implausible for early music, that they should be so metronomically exact in the Notes Inégales, and swing every single note by exactly the same amount within an overall metronomic pulse.
Also evidence from mechanical clocks to the contrary isn't too convincing because musical clocks, by their nature, are of course mechanical/ It could just be a limitation of the craftsmen in ability to reproduce the fluidity of human rhythms.
So anyway - seems it also fits the criteria of notability enough to deserve at least a brief mention in this article, perhaps a short section with a heading of its own? I have tried to find other references on the same ideas - but can't find anything else apart from this one article. If more material can be found to back it up, I'd have thought it deserved quite a large section of this article as it is a really interesting approach and idea.
Do say if you know anything about this approach to Notes Inégales, and what you feel about adding a section about it to this article. Also especially interested to know if anyone has any other links and references to this material, also the ideas of Entasis too, and possible link of those Greek ideas to Notes Inégales. Robert Walker (talk) 17:20, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there has been no comment, I have just added this section in to the main article. I feel it has to be mentioned, or the reader could get the impression that there is a consensus of opinion in favour of the interpretation shown in the article, which is not the case. It is also an interesting approach with several performers exploring it, as well as the published article about it that I know about (and there may well be other published material on the subject - if you are expert and know of other references please add them :) ) Robert Walker (talk) 01:17, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  An alternative approach to Notes Inégales 

message: The straight eighths and triplet images at the top of the page both (irritatingly) link to the same sound clip. The way the images are commented does not make it immediately clear that they are notating a similar thing in different ways (one by simply including the word "swing").
I'd delete the link at the triplet image and make the legend "Triplet notation of the same swung rhythm as notes inégales".
Rather than two seperate links to the same sound clip, which one doesn't understand till having followed both, a comparison of the unswung sound would be more useful.  I'll leave this up to someone more of a musical expert than me.  Let me know if you fix. I don't watch these days.  Trev M  ~  18:21, 1 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link confusion 

message: Hello, I'm trying to translate this page for the Italian Wikipedia, but I noticed that some sections and clauses are a bit confusing, sometimes they seem incomplete, as if they had been hastily written. Can someone tell me if it's my fault, or the text really needs a revision? Ptolemaios, from Italian Wikipedia  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.147.211.170 (talk) 00:01, 23 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision 

message: The media dunt work. Now, if it dunt work on my phone, which is a brand new Sony effort, it probably int going to work on many others. Can't the file format just be mp3, or something like that, that owt can use w'out having to scour the internet looking for something to open it? Ta. SquidSix (talk) 12:07, 4 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: They are MIDI files, which are pretty non-mobile-compatible. —Wahoofive (talk) 21:41, 6 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Media Playback