Talk:Ursula K. Le Guin/Archive 1

message: I think the "luh gwinn" pronounciation clarification is useful, but is the mock-french follow-up really that informative?
Muaddib 01:46, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It was me who put that quotation in there originally. It's light-hearted, sure, but the fact that it's a direct quote from UKL's mouth keyboard gives it a validity and a relevance it wouldn't have otherwise. I'd be sad to see it go. –Hajor 02:14, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds reasonable to me then.  Muaddib 06:40, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: Great. Thanks. –Hajor 16:15, 3 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: Where should we place info on the TV/film adaptations in this article? I'm not sure the end of the "Biography" section is the best place. SWalkerTTU 15:04, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that when the article was originally written, there weren't many adaptations.  Now that they're taking off, why not make a new section?  It could be called TV/Film adaptations or something similar. -Ikkyu2 23:01, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Septentrionalis 17:29, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorganization 

message: Where can i find a list of all the themes explored in her short stories so I can pick one that I want to read that I would particularly like?--Sonjaaa 05:17, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: short stories

message: There is some controversy among editors of the Anarchism page about whether UKL is an anarchist.  In attempting to discover an answer I have found the following three sources:
*[Michael Krasny] set out to ask a broad range of thinkers what they had read that had provided moral insight or served as a catalyst or paradigm of virtue, ethical behavior, or simply living the kind of life that makes a difference. What texts do they look to when they want moral guideposts or standards for ethical action?
:Ursula K. Le Guin, Novelist
:I read Lao-tzu and the Tao Te Ching at 14. My father had it around the house in the old edition with the Chinese text. I sneaked a peek and was and remain fascinated. Taoism is still an underlayer in my work. It begins talking about what we can't talk about--an old mysticism that intertwines with Buddhism and is practical and not theistic. Before and beyond God. There's a humorous and easygoing aspect to it that I like temperamentally and that fits in with anarchism. Pacifist anarchism and Lao-tzu have a lot of connection with each other, especially in the 20th century.
*Q: How did you become a Taoist, if you would consider yourself one?
:UKL: By reading Lao Tzu and Chuang Tzu, mostly. I don't have my library here so I don't dare try to give you any names of scholars and popularisers who helped me understand Taoism - I would forget most of them. I don't really know how one "is" a Taoist. I do know that Taoist ideas inform a great deal of my writing.
*ELM: You have talked about dry times in writing, and how sometimes one must wait for the writing tank to fill. How do you deal with such fluctuations in your writing life? Have you noticed consistent cycles? What helps you get through the dry times and refill your writer’s tank?
:UKL: You sit and wait and wait and wait and wait. And fret. And consult the I Ching, which tells you to wait. So you wait and wait . . .
:Traveling is bad for fiction but good for poetry. That's the only cycle I have noticed.
:Work always leads to work, so it's good in a dry time to have some interest to pursue, something I want to learn about (because I'm a head-worker). Like the Revolution of 1830, say. I read about it for years. Just because I liked it. I was very interested for years in sleep and dream research. In other years I read a lot of utopias, and about utopias, and about Gandhi, and about Anarchism. All those learnings, which I pursued purely because I was interested in the subject, turned into novels in the end.
These statements hardly clear up the ambiguity, other than to illustrate that she claims pacifism as much as anarchism, and Taoism more often.  She may "be" a Taoist, and maybe an anarchist and a pacifist as well -- note her disavowal and use of quotes around "is" -- or she may just be "interested in subjects" that "turn into novels." 67.168.216.176 20:24, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See her introduction to The Ones Who Walk Away from Omelas. And the "is" is a quite sensible caveat about Taoism. Septentrionalis 01:06, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Le Guin and anarchism 

message: The first three novels do not speak of the Ekumen and are republished as Three complete novels of the Hainish series.  Also Le Guin speaks just of a 'League of Worlds' in The Dispossessed and The Word for World is Forest, writer later but set before the first three novels.--GwydionM 17:06, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ekumen and Hainish Cycle 

message: "159.134.55.215" must have thought they were being helpful by removing links that are in red, i.e. no article.  But Wikipedia is growing all the time.  I've added items and then found there was an existing link I never knew about.  Links in red - or however they show up on your PC - are a pointer to what needs to be added next.--GwydionM (talk) 11:14, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent deletions 

message: I am currently plowing through her (excellent) Annals novels, and I have to say they are no more or less "young adult" books than the Earthsea Cycle.  I think they should be categorized as a third Le Guin universe, alongside Earthsea and the Hainish novels. 17:07, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Annals of the Western Shore 

message: "such themes place her work in the canon of feminist science fiction." 
I followed the link provided for this statement, and there's nothing that verifies it. However, I realize that this is simply one page from a larger review. The claim might very well be supported later on, however if this is the case, I think the specific page number, etc. should be provided rather than this link. Aurum ore (talk) 02:35, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Canon of Feminist Science Fiction

message: #3 on the references on the bottom of the page leads to a broken link.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.80.136.7 (talk) 02:41, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for catching this; I fixed it. Questionic (talk) 03:10, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken Link 

message: Although they aren't as extensive as her Hainish and Earthsea cycles, the Orsinian stories form just as coherent a set and, according to Cummins, Understanding Ursula K. Le Guin (1993) represent Le Guin's earliest writings in which she first achieved her maturity as a writer.  I think they deserve a separate section here. --SteveMcCluskey (talk) 15:24, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we add a section on the Orsinian stories? 

message: According to the Radio Times dated March 14-20 2009, in which Le Guin lists her ten favourite children's books, she puts the book of nursery rhymes edited by Peter Opie and Iona Opie at the top of this list. Perhaps this could go in the article? Other books she includes (apart from her own) include works by Beatrix Potter and J.R.R. Tolkein.ACEOREVIVED (talk) 23:03, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Le Guin's favourite children's books

message: Aw, she looks SO seriously ill and "bent" on that photo - don't we have any other, which represents her dignity a bit better? Might as well be an older one. -andy 92.229.113.146 (talk) 12:24, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We can only use what is provided to us under the proper licensing. --Orange Mike  |  Talk 18:33, 22 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't it ok to use this photo published in offical web page under Wikipedia licencing rules?--OnurGuvenc (talk) 17:03, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: None of the photos on that page have licenses meeting WP's nonfree content policies, at least as far as they apply to BLPs. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 17:48, 1 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess you are right after all. All I can think of is adding a proper link to the article.--OnurGuvenc (talk) 15:45, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  In most cases, I would agree, but I think that since on her website she has preferred publicity photos, I think we should use those.  Not everyone subscribes to / is familiar with the Creative Commons / GNU etc. license or philosophy, but that doesn't mean that we should punish them by showing them in light that they don't wish to be seen in. Especially since it is a living person.  --Mistsrider (talk) 05:51, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: There is still a split suggestion on the article but I couldn't find any discussion so it'd be an idea to resolve this one way or the other. I think a split would be a good idea at this point and give the article a bit more space to breath. (Emperor (talk) 22:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Support. --Tesscass (talk) 23:03, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Support.  I did some work on Bibliography of Damon Knight which might be useful as a template. Mike Christie (talk) 23:39, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Support Seems applicable in this case. Steven Walling 00:38, 13 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Oppose Don't see why this article needs to be split? Why should it be split? I think it should stay where it is, since there is a lack of critical commentary on Le Guin's writing, the list of works is more descriptive than anything else in the article right now. --Mistsrider (talk) 05:47, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Support The bibliography makes this page much focus too much on the writings and not the woman herself.  I am in favor of a select bibliography that lists out approximately 10-12 of her best known works.  There should be a wikilink to her full bibliography page in the section.  See Robert Holdstock as an example.  I am glad to do the work to create the page, etc.  Npd2983 (talk) 13:46, 12 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Support Agree with above comment. Sunwin1960 (talk) 05:01, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

text: This list of selected works should include all that are mentioned in the text regarding adaptations. (I haven't checked.) --P64 (talk) 20:51, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bibliography split 

message: I don't think this is well-supported.  Citing The Dispossessed is not sufficient.  Jean-Paul Sartre wrote a play set in hell.  That doesn't mean that he believed in it or was even religious.  You need to provide real evidence that Le Guin subscribes to that ideology, not just that she writes about the concept and similar themes in her literature. Henrymrx (t·c) 09:33, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Libertarian socialists 

message: It's time for a Fall Cleaning of this External links section.  WP:EL asks we winnow this list considerably to include only links that expand on specific sections of the prose.  Anyone want to help? The Interior (talk) 21:36, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not an Ursula K. Le Guin expert (love her books, but never really studied them/her) but I'll do what I can. Some of the ELs looks like they'd be better suited to more specific articles - I've just moved two to Lavinia, for example. TFOWR 21:44, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved a few more - to Earthsea and Lavinia. I guess I've got the "low-hanging fruit": I've not done the difficult task - going through the generic one's and making any kind of editorial decision about which should be kept... TFOWR 21:54, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Removed these links as they are also bios (redundant here):
* Collection of Ursula Le Guin info at feministsf.org 
* LitWeb.net: Ursula Le Guin Biography  The Interior (talk) 22:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Took this one out: * Transcript of interview on Australia's ABC Radio National "The Book Show" program - mainly about Lavinia - May 4, 2008 as it also is about "Lavinia". The Interior (talk) 22:23, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm inclined to remove the audio interviews as well, they aren't quickly accessible, although they do represent content that is difficult to integrate into the article.  Hmmm. The Interior (talk) 22:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added . Her induction ceremony, even the fact, is not yet covered in the article. See #Awards for some more info. --P64 (talk) 20:35, 26 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links cleanup, Oct. 2010 

message: Why does the article reference the Guardian article (which references Le Guin's letter) rather than reference the source document directly? - Amgine (talk) 18:19, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Two reasons: That's where I found the information to begin with (or at least the most complete writeup of it at the time); more important, secondary source coverage helps demonstrate the encyclopedic significance of the event in question; primary source coverage does not. Not everything a writer posts on her website is important enough to mention in an encyclopedic biography. More appropriate as an external link, perhaps. Hullaballoo Wolfowitz (talk) 18:44, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secondary sources vs. original sources 

message: This section is short for a writer of her stature. The middle third is narrowly about her authorial career, which would usually be in a separate section (Writer, Career, etc). Anyway we have no specific timeline for her writing career between age 11 and her first published book at age 35. (Ursula K. Le Guin bibliography gives only one not-much-earlier date, 1959 or age 30.) And we have nothing at all about roughly a decade between 1953 marriage and early 1960s focus on writing.
She has three children. When were they born? Did she raise three children to school age during that missing decade?
(Compare Anne McCaffrey: born 1926, three children born 1950s, focus on writing 1963 after the third entered school. First novel 1967.) --P64 (talk) 20:51, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Life

message: What is the basis for claiming that UKL explores issues of "Queer Theory" and, even if true, why is this in the lede?  HedgeFundBob (talk) 15:29, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No idea. I think it was first introduced in thi edit by an IP user (contributions). Obviously, several of her books and shorts deal with gender and identity, including "deviations" like androgynes in Left Hand of Darkness. Most of these books were written before the term "queer theory" was coined, so I think it would be less objectionable to say she explores issues of queerness (perhaps with a link piped to queer theory).--Nø (talk) 10:06, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As noone has defended its inclusion, I have now removed the link/concept from the lead.--Nø (talk) 19:47, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: All of the themes should be removed from the lead.  "Themes" is a silly junior high school way of talking about books.  You wan't see "themes" in the Shakespeare lead, or in the articles for any other great authors, except perhaps "feminism" for Virginia Woolf.  Le Guin calls herself a feminist, but she would not be comfortable with the assertion that her works "explore feminist themes" or any other themes.  It's just not the way good writers talk.  Gregcaletta (talk) 19:51, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

text: Instead, we should talk about influences, style, genre etc. with some detail about the kinds of science fiction worlds she creates.  Gregcaletta (talk) 19:53, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

text: I've had a go.  What do you think?  Gregcaletta (talk) 20:25, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Themes" 

message: "Buffalo Gals, and other stories of animal prescence" is a collection of short stories and poems about sentient animals and worlds.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.59.89.182 (talk) 10:41, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  a book not listed in biblio 

message: I see that the United States has voted with Oregon rather than California in giving this a Start rather than B grade. C would be sensible in my opinion, otherwise I agree and suspect that the Bs predate introduction of class C. May she live to see straight Bs? --P64 (talk) 15:44, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment 

message: I removed the citation request tag from the Themes section as it was placed there in 2008, almost every statement in the section now has a cite, and there is no statements of fact that could be considered libelous. If anyone thinks there are still problems, I think it is better to add cite tags to individual statements. Ashmoo (talk) 11:08, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Themes section BLP:CITE tag

message: An editor has added the novel The God Beneath the Sea as an influence on Le Guin, but I can't find a reliable source to verify the statement. The book was published in 1971, by which time Le Guin had already published A Wizard of Eathsea and The Left Hand of Darkness, so it wasn't a formative influence on her youthful development as a writer. I have removed the claim pending verification from reliable sources that it influenced her mature writing. --Muchness (talk) 22:52, 18 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: ''The God Beneath the Sea''

message: The obvious miscategorization of a major writer in subcategories for women writers should be fixed - but not until general discussions like this: Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2013 April 24#Category:American women novelists have been wrapped up.--Nø (talk) 06:20, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Woman categories 

message: I have removed influences= and influenced= from the infobox as these are no longer supported. This means that the contents of these lists are no longer in the article's source. (They weren't visible in the article anyway.) Nick Levine (talk) 18:28, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influences. 

message: The one that leaps to (my) mind is Orson Scott Card, who refers to the ansible in "Ender's Game." Briankharvey 23:53, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I disagree; I think that makes the article lose focus. I would say, if you can think of writers who specifically say that they've been influenced by her work or find research that discusses her influence on the genre, that's OK. --Mistsrider (talk) 02:42, 10 February 2008 (UTC)

text: No, the idea that everyone has a true name that is intrinsically linked to their essence, and knowledge of which gives power over that person, is widespread in the world. I don't mean just in fiction, but in real-world belief and tradition, past and present. See the article. --Thnidu (talk) 03:36, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writers-influenced-by section? 

message: "Such themes can place her work in the category of feminist science fiction,[8] but nescesairily so."
What does "nescesairily" mean? I cannot find a definition in Google Define, Webster's Online Dictionary or Wiktionary. If this word exists, it is very uncommon. It should be replaced with a more common one to make the article more accessible. Pgan002 (talk) 20:02, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd call that a pretty obvious misspelling of "necessarily"...which makes no sense there. --Thnidu (talk) 03:43, 8 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unintelligible sentence 

message: :The too-short Life ends, "Le Guin has lived in Portland, Oregon since 1958. She has three children." If she and Charles Le Guin divorced, that should be covered. --P64 (talk) 20:51, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Biographical Sketch on her own website says they didn't: "She married Charles A. Le Guin, a historian, in Paris in 1953; they have lived in Portland, Oregon, since 1958, and have three children and four grandchildren." Emphasis added. I've just added that sketch to the External links, as a sub-bullet of her website. --Thnidu (talk) 04:17, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Here's more evidence: Her blog, with the Christmas entries under "Annals of Pard (a cat) XIII", and especially the video clip Helping Charles Unwrap, titled more fully PardXmas-PardHelpsCharlesUnwrap-Computer.m4v. --Thnidu (talk) 04:46, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Divorce? 

message: I keep seeing the Author had "mixed feeling" about it.  However, she's simply negative about it.  
If one were to read the whole EarthSea series, and saw Ged Senki, one would have a hard time making a connection at all.  
"she took issue with its moral delivery and plot execution?"  There is no similarity in plot.  
"Taking an issue" is a great euphemism.  
Following is what she wrote about the entirely different plot. 
"Don't ask the book's author 'Why did they . . . ?' She is wondering too." 
"I kept trying to find and follow the story of my books 
while watching an entirely different story, 
confusingly enacted by people with the same names as in my story, 
but with entirely different temperaments, histories, and destinies."
Indeed, she did write, "Much of it is beautiful."  
But she is an author.  She does not draw, paint, or take pictures.  She writes plots.  She writes stories.  Which is what books are for.  And this wiki page is about plots she wrote in her books.  Adaptation of her books, or anybody's stories, by definition, should have some resemblance of the stories she had written.  Goro Miyazaki's work took characters' names and plot departed greatly from the EarthSea, to the level of incoherence.  No wonder Ursula Le Guin wrote, "Much of it was, I thought, incoherent."  That also is an understatement.  
If one were to assign Luke Skywalker, Anakin Skywalker, Princess Leia, Han Solo to the characters of "Desperate Housewives," would that make it an adaptation of Star Wars?  If one were to read through Earthsea series word for word, to the very last word, and watched Ged Senki by Goro Miyazaki, she/he would feel as if she had seen an episode of "Desperate Housewives" with Star Wars characters' names attached to characters.  "Mixed feelings" about it?  Desparate Housewives could win many awards for "beautiful" cinematography, but frankly, who would care when the plot was so vastly different from Star Wars?  I would be surprised if anybody could understand it as the author having a "mixed feeling," after reading her response: http://www.ursulakleguin.com/GedoSenkiResponse.html  
She didn't even like her first response of "It is not my book. It is your movie. It is a good movie" being interpreted as her having liked the animated movie at all.  Ursula Le Guin's words like "Anger and disappointment attended the making of this film" did not portray anything like "mixed feelings."  How could "Anger and disappointment" change into "Mixed feelings?"  That is as much mystery as Earthsea turning into Ged Senki.  Hans-Vonluck 03:17, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I did some rewriting of this article, drawing on Le Guin's own blog entry on it - and did my best to present a clearer picture of her reaction the the film which was an appreciation for how it looked and how well it was animated, but great dislike for how it had deviated from her own stories.  --ScientificBuccaneer (talk) 10:48, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Very well presented. --Thnidu, a fan of hers since the seventies (talk) 14:50, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gedo Senki - Animation by Goro Miyazaki 

message: I remember reading a book or story by her of a civilization of Lesbians who lived on floating islands.  Can anyone tell me the name of that story?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 04:08, 29 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  question 

message: I can think of a science fiction series (V 2009) and a major film (Avatar) that remind me of the story Paradises Lost and The Word for World is Forest, respectively. In the first, a civilisation of spaceship-dwellers who adhere to a religion called Bliss, and in the second, an arboreal society who manage to repel colonists. Has anyone found reliable sources where these influences or inspirations have been noted? Totorotroll (talk) 08:01, 25 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influenced by Le Guin's work 

message: The article has a very good reference already for how she pronounces her surname, "How to Pronounce Me" from her website.() Here she tells an interviewer that it depends on the country:
:Q: Do you pronounce your name the French way or, as most of your fans do, Luh Gwinn?
:UKL: Een zees country we say Luh Gwinn. En France nous disons Le Guin, comme le vin or le gain; et en Bretagne - c'est un nom breton - je crois que c'est encore Luh Gwinn. (Like Gwyn in Welsh - I think it's the same word.) It is all my husband's fault, anyhow.
:()
That is:
:[in French accent:] In this country we say Luh Gwinn (). 
:[in French:] In France we say Le Guin  like le vin (the wine) or le gain (the profit); and in Brittany – it's a Breton name — I think it's Luh Gwinn () again. 
:[in English:] Like Gwyn in Welsh - I think it's the same word. It is all my husband's fault, anyhow.
I don't see that it's necessary to put this on the page, but here it is as a resource. --Thnidu (talk) 05:40, 11 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronouncing "Le Guin" 

message: I undid 's good-faith but mistaken revision 691387917 to § Sociology, anthropology and psychology. 
# Planet of Exile, City of Illusion, & The Word for World Is Forest, 3 of the 4 books whose mentions were deleted, are not mentioned at beginning of the section; only The Dispossessed is. 
# All of LeGuin's characters except the Shing are of Hainish origin, i.e., human: we Terrans are of unmodified Hainish stock, possibly as an experiment to see how Hainish seed might have evolved differently. (I'm pretty sure a character in one of the books speculated on this, but don't ask me for a ref.) This is an important element of the series, which I made explicit in , which  was largely concerned with reverting. In fact, I'd call it an essential element, and have brought it out more clearly in this edit:
#:a loose collection of societies, of various related human species (see Hainish Cycle)
:If her protagonists were not fundamentally like us (though with some differences), how could we identify with them so closely, and how would these stories be matters of "sociology, anthropology and psychology" at all? 
--Thnidu (talk) 21:08, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I was more worried about the typo introduced in your edit. All best. Icarus of old (talk) 21:13, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ah, I see. Thanks for that. --Thnidu (talk) 19:20, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sociology, anthropology and psychology 

message: It seems very odd to me that there is no mention of the Earthsea series on this page until the "Adaptations of her work" section. Why isn't it mentioned in the "Writing career" section? 74.136.249.86 (talk) 23:43, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: --Orange Mike | Talk 00:30, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  no mention of the Earthsea series on this page until the "Adaptations of her work" section 

message: This article has been tagged by Wikipedia:WikiProject Women/Women in Green as a vital article to bring up to GA status.  I'm interested, and wanted to ping the talk page to see if any other editors who have this page watchlisted would like to collaborate on such a project.  Montanabw(talk) 05:43, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Women in green 

message: May be of interest/use for this article: Rhythmic Patterning in The Lord of the Rings by Ursula K. LeGuin (an excerpt from the essay collection Meditations on Middle-earth). Carcharoth (talk) 11:52, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Le Guin on Tolkien 

message: "The Complete Orsinia" has just been published by the Library of America. I think this should be added to the article but i'm not sure under which section. It's not exactly an award. Does it warrant it's own section? Phersh (talk) 04:04, 31 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Library Of America 

message: The form for ULG's mother's name as given in the Wikipedia article, although it is referenced, appears to be inaccurate. Several sources give her surname as Krakow. These include the California Association of Teachers of English website and a Berkeley memoir of A. L. Kroeber.
http://www.cateweb.org/CA_Authors/Kroeber.html, which says: Born Theodora Krakow in Denver, Colorado in 1897, she married Clifton Spencer Brown. When he died in 1923, she was left with their two sons, Clifton and Theodore. After her marriage to Alfred Kroeber in March, 1926, two more children were born and Kroeber adopted his stepsons, creating a family of Theodore, Clifford, who went on to become a professor of history at the University of Wisconsin, Karl, who became a professor of English at Columbia University, and a daughter, the Oregon-based author of speculative fiction, Ursula LeGuin.
http://www.nasonline.org/publications/biographical-memoirs/memoir-pdfs/kroeber-alfred.pdf  say: In 1925, the increasing number of graduate students included Theodora Krakow Brown, or Krakie, an attractive widow with two young sons, Clifton and Theodore. The spring semester of 1926 brought the marriage of Kroeber and Krakie  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tom Dawkes (talk • contribs) 15:53, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ursula Le Guin's mother 

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message: Hi, if a publisher has supplied an image to help illustrate the Wikipedia article on the Wizard of Earthsea on French Wikipedia can it be hosted on French Wikipedia on a fair use basis? Publisher wants the image only to be used on that page only so cannot release openly. Seems a shame if the page cannot be illustrated. I'll leave a message on French Wiki too. Stinglehammer (talk) 16:37, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't see a way in which such a narrow license would be welcome or usable.  It would become more of a pain in the ass than not.  The English article already has a cover image, though (the first edition cover).  --Jorm (talk) 20:50, 25 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cover image from publisher for French Wikipedia article on the Wizard of Earthsea