Talk:House (TV series)/Archive 2

message: There is a similarity (intentional?) between the name House and that of P.G.Wodehouse, the British author of the books on which the Jeeves and Wooster comedy series is based. Hugh Laurie, who plays Dr.House, acted as Bertram Wooster in that series.
:I wouldn't be surprised if there were references to it, because there's already been a reference to Blackadder, but I'd say in this case he's just named House for its similarity to Holmes. --Galaxiaad 02:28, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: House & Wodehouse?

message: at the beginning of the new season, we find that House's leg is healed due to the use of ketamyne, should this be mentioned, because i think so--Aaronpark 2:15, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We still don't know how effective the treatment was. The ending of the episode indicated that he may have slight pain that could get worse as the ketamine wears off. I think that for the next few episodes the pain will be gone but once the writers need to mix things up, they will write House being in pain again.Gdo01 02:19, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

text: That's right. He went into his closet and got his cane in this lastest episode. I'm kinda thinking it's not just the pain, but also from his operation on the child with illusion when he found out he was right and cured the boy he was ready to be back in the same state of mind he was in before. Le Raine
maybe it should state that at the beginning of the 3rd season his leg was better--Aaronpark 19:55, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  His leg is fine now 

message: I'm pretty sure the game he was playing wasn't Metroid Prime: Hunters, but instead Trauma Center: Under the Knife.
It did look like MPH, but I don't think it was released at the time...and it didn't look the demo either. Blue Mirage 03:26, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Play the nintendo DS?

message: Do we really need this? I find it unconvincing.
The show's creator commented in interviews that House was largely based on the Sherlock Holmes character, so it's noteworthy in the article. Iwhaiwnfi 02:05, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sherlock Homes Comparison 

message: Just a few comments. I'm looking at contributing to editing this website. There are some good fansites out there and they were removed (anyone know why?). I am planning on setting up some more external links that are "fansites" and not "official-websites". Some fansites are very good. I was thinking that as long as it doesn't get out of hand, people can come and post their own fansites.
Also, there should be a detailed account of every episode number and name (no reviews or previews, just a name) so people will know. If I have time, I can do this as well. Housefan 12:50, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's already an episode guide for this site: List of House episodes.
I've have a link on the page to episode reviews at TV Squad, but an admin has since removed it. I'm not sure why this link was removed while others are allowed to stay. TV Squad is no more or less commercial than several other links listed under 'External links', so I'd like to know the difference. Gudlyf 13:17, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fansites, Episode Guide

message: I deleted this section, because it's descending into farce; while iPods and GBAs have featured fairly prominently, do we really need to know that one episode mentioned a TiVo? This and every other show. It's gone unless somebody can be bothered stripping it down to the properly significant items. Kinitawowi 19:55, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Concur, it could probably simply be mentioned in the Trivia section that the show uses a great deal of product placement.
--- What about his shoes? It seems like they also show really big zoom-ins on his shoes. Staus 04:07, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Product placement 

message: This article seems to have been worked on extensively, and I think a peer review would be good. Do you guys agree? I haven't put it up for nomination yet. TheKillerAngel 16:09, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article needs some significant cleanup before undergoing a peer review.  Sources need to be cited for the ratings section.  It is also not necessary to list every episode the people listed under Other characters have appeared in.  Many of the items under trivia, such as House playing video games, is completely non notable fancruft that should be deleted.  Those are just a few things I saw while skimming the article. Jtrost (T | C | #) 16:21, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

text: House playing video games is a recurring thing with his character, though; it's not "completely non-notable" at all. YOU may not care, but that doesn't make it notable in regards to his character; soap operas, listening to his iPod and video games are the most common diversions he engages himself in when at work on the show (the fact that none of these really requires another person is interesting and probably of some level of importance characterization-wise, though of course, to say so without a cite is OR and I wouldn't do it ;) ). Additionally, of slightly lesser note but still of some interest characterization-wise - he plays on three different systems. That's not that notable (e.g. a big deal shouldn't be made of it in the majority of the article), but I do believe it is notable enough for the "trivia" section, since it happens more than once (same with the fact that he's multiple times been shown watching General Hospital or similar medically-themed soap operas; it's a quirky part of his character and a recurring theme in his characterization, albeit the General Hospital references are probably an inside joke given that the series is also a medical drama, but anyway. A minor part, admittedly, but a part of it), and to me, that says he's probably a bit of a gamer (hell, I like to play games, but even I don't own more than one system. The only people I know that own more than one are usually referred to as "gamers", even if they're "casual gamers", e.g. they like games and play several on several different systems, but they don't stay up for 37 hours just to beat level ten or anything extreme like that). Although, since Dr. Gregory House is a seperate article, they should probably go there (same with the type of motorcycle he drives and the fact that he owns an iPod), to save space for more "key" information on the series as a whole for here, especially since I doubt next season or the season after that or the one after the one after that will be its last, given the current popularity (barring anything truly bizarre and unexpected, of course). :) 63.21.42.63 21:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer Review-Yes/No?

message: I just noticed that a specific House fansite has huge sections of verbatim (as if they were copied and pasted right out of wikipedia) or the other way around.
I'm not totally familiar with wikipedia's standards, but shouldn't one or the other cite where they got this information and would that be plagerism on behalf of the fansite? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.196.209.204 (talk • contribs) 
:I believe wikipedia is an open source site and anyone can use the info. and who's to say that the owner of the site didnt write some of it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Malevious (talk • contribs) 
::Content submitted to Wikipedia falls under the GNU Free Document License.  It is a rather unrestricted license, but there are several things you are not allowed to do.  Plagiarism is one of them.  As in, distributing the content - modified or not - in such a fashion as to convince people that is a proprietary work.  Regarding your suggestion, if an contributor writes a Wikipedia article, he or she has no greater rights to the content than someone who has never touched it.  By submitting to Wikipedia, you hand all your work over to the GNU license. –Gunslinger47 01:04, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Then who's to say the info on the wikipedia wasnt taken from that site it? Malevious 19:42, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagerism? 

message: If nobody objects I'll delete the statements tagged with  in a few days. Johnleemk | Talk 16:03, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I deleted the statements, except for a couple of them, which I found a source for. I've also drastically reorganised the article by resectioning it and utilising subsections. With a bit of pruning of irrelevant trivia and the shifting of some minor trivialities to List of House episodes, I've managed to more than halve the size of the trivia section, while only actually removing a few bits which really don't belong. (We don't need a long exposition about who played what in certain adaptations of a famous Doug Adams novel, nor is there much of a point to mentioning any but the most outrageous coincidences. The "Hugh Lawrence" thing wasn't important enough, and just fluffs the article without adding anything meaningful.) Johnleemk | Talk 09:13, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: It's a mess. I've tried to re-write it, but it seems like the best bet would be to replace it with a single line or two about scheduling issues elsewhere in the article. All the talk about the reruns is incomprehensible - and outdated info anyway. Thoughts? Lambertman 19:41, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Ratings section 

message: Does anyone know when the premire episode of the third season will repeat? dposse 19:37, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks!! dposse 00:31, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  repeat. 

message: Does House's pet rat really deserve a "Recurring character" spot? It feels more like an inside joke for the fans since the rat is not really a character. I don't believe the rat has appeared in more then two episodes. That in and of it self may be reason to remove him. The Filmaker 03:00, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Steve McQueen 

message: "House plays games of Nintendo's Metroid series on several occasions. In an episodes you see Cuddy, and then in another you see House, using the iPod shuffle while they jog. Also, during the second season, there was an XM SkyFi 2 boombox on top of the bookshelf in their office. For the third season, this has been replaced by an iPod Hi-Fi. In some shots there is another iPod attached to it. Many of the patients' names in the English translation of the Nintendo DS videogame, Trauma Center: Under the Knife, uses names of characters or actors from House. This includes patients named Eric Dorian, Chi McGinley, Omar Flynn, Greg Kasal, Hugh Vogler, Noah Lourie, Amy Chase, and Jesse Pratt."
Do you agree/disagree?
:Are you referring to the whole section, or solely that which you bolded? -Shannernanner 06:30, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The first part goes to product placement, which is prominent in the series, and therefore notable.  The second section is more trivial per the series itself, and probably belongs more on the video game's page, where it already is. -Shannernanner 05:45, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fancruft 

message: Does anyone know when season 3 will start in the UK?? Thanks Chris z99 16:23, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season 3 - Showing in UK? 

message: Can we get rid of this whole section? It just seems to be a magnet for fancruft. Do we really need to know what brand of shoes he wears, and what kind of computers the hospital uses? Fact is, no shows these days bother to create their own props from scratch, so everything being used is going to have some sort of name brand on it. But are those name brands really important to the show in any way whatsoever? If somebody can find a cited reference that the product placement is significant in this particular show, than fine. But otherwise I think it should be removed as OR and Fancruft. --Maelwys 00:58, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. What is/isn't product placement? So he uses an iPod. So do most people with music players. Ditto the DS. What about Cameron's clothes? Or the clipboards they use? Iorek85 01:16, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it is worthy to mention something about him playing a gameboy or DS in a majority of the episodes, i doubt we need an entire section or need to mention every little gizmo in the series. Mabey just a little trivia thing about the recurring fact that he has a hand held videogame and a  portable tv in almost all episodes. Malevious 20:40, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is already a note about that in the Personality section of the Gregory House article (noting that he enjoys playing video games, and even what systems and game series he plays most often). I think this is probably sufficient visibility for a factoid that has such little bearing on the series, and a whole section of the front page that also contains that information is probably overkill. --Maelwys 20:45, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Product Placement 

message: does the book really need to be mentioned in the article? i dont think it has much to do with the show at all and doesnt really need to be put there. Malevious 20:06, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The book is of interest to fans of the show because it addresses the questions they have about the accuracy of the medical cases depicted. The book is being discussed on fan sites including http://tv.groups.yahoo.com/group/House_MD and http://community.livejournal.com/housefic_pens/14615.html It would seem to be as relevant and notable as the DVD listings. Holtza 23:56, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Being featured on fan sites does not qualify something for notability. I agree with the previous reverters that this is WP:VAIN. Though I weakly agree with the editor's assertions that the DVD listings are somewhat not relevant for this article. Gdo01 00:03, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Maybe it would fit better as an external link? If so, the publisher's web listing is http://us.penguingroup.com/nf/Book/BookDisplay/0,,9780425212301,00.html and the Amazon link is http://www.amazon.com/Medical-Science-House-M-D/dp/0425212300 Holtza 00:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh this is actually worse since these links would directly advertise rather than implicity advertise. Gdo01 00:14, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd think that when people turn to Wikipedia for information about the show, one of the key questions is about the relative accuracy of the bizarre plots. I'm guessing that's why the article currently provides a link to a blog discussing the medical accuracy of the show. What would be an appropriate way to let readers know about a book that examines the show's accuracy? Holtza 00:29, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Get a reliable source to publish an article about the book. If, for example, the New York Times were to write an article about your book and how good a resource it is for show fans and medical practitioners that enjoy the show, then that would assert the notability of the book, and then we'd be able to include it here. But until it's shown that the book is notable, I don't believe that it belongs here, no matter how useful it might be to fans. --Maelwys 16:58, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book