Talk:Dockworker

message: What jobs does "longshoreman" include? These sorts of men also "work along the shore":- a man who mends waterfront machinery; the man who cleans up rubbish along the waterfront; a docks dredger skipper; a lighterman. I am British and I know the word "longshoreman" only from books. Anthony Appleyard 06:38, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As I've heard it, the term, where I am at least (Vancouver, Canada) refers to men who load and unload ships, originating from back in the day when someone would holler "Men Along the Shore!," signalling that a boat was ready to be loaded or unloaded. "Longshoremen" were those who responded to the call and formed into work gangs. Bobanny 05:24, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Longshoreman

message: Removed advertising for a band called Stevedore.Read The oklahoma based original 80's synthpop band, Stevedore, has nothing to do with unloading ships. Unless you unload ships by getting your groove-boots and/or dancepants on. (See also stevedore.org)! --Piratejesus 00:00, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Stevedore (band) 

message: Is there any reference that a Longshoreman and a Stevedore is a different trade?  If the US government seems to think not, why does wikipedia think so?  I'd like to see something verifying this.  I have added a further  tag to this sentence. --Dj245 20:57, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Longshoreman/Stevedore differences

message: I don't know why this is even an issue. A stevedore and a longshoreman are 2 different things, not interchangeable terms for the same occupation. And, at least in the US, law says as much: 
"A stevedore is a man or a company who manages the operation of loading or unloading a ship... Longshoremen refer exclusively to the dockworkers, while stevedores, are a separate trade union, worked on the ships, operating ships cranes and moving cargo." USLegal.com/Admiralty.
The first sentence of the article, "A stevedore (/ˈstiːvɪˌdɔːr/), also called a longshoreman,..." is simply factually misleading and should be eliminated. Maybe, "A stevedore (/ˈstiːvɪˌdɔːr/), also erroneously called a longshoreman,..." would do. Venqax (talk) 15:48, 29 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  2 Different Things 

message: Section  Loading and unloading ships asserts: Before containerization, freight was often handled with a longshoreman’s hook, a tool which became emblematic of the profession (Mostly on the west coast of the United States and Canada).
 The hook is often seen in docker exhibits in maritime museums in the UK and would seem to have been in common use there also (see also the common cockney slang 'sling yer hook'; still in common use today in the UK generally.) It could further sensibly be speculated that a tool common to dockers in the UK and longshoremen on the West Coast of the US  was used by East Coast longshoremen. I suggest the 'Mostly on the West Coast' comment is false and should be removed.Comrade jo (talk) 11:37, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Longshoreman's Hook

message: As an Australian who works in the docks, the word 'docker' is used very commonly, not just 'wharfie'. I don't have any evidence for this other than anecdotal, and I'm not familiar with Wikipedia, so I created this to see if maybe someone could add this. Wharfie tends to be working-class slang, docker is used commonly anywhere other than on the work site, or at least in the places around the country I work. Stevedore is also commonly used. At the very least almost all British terms and slang are understood without any problems, this article makes it sound like we're different when we're not.
60.228.193.222 (talk) 11:34, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Australian Slang

message: I have searched extensively for the word whombler, and can find no usage on the internet that doesn't originate from this wikipedia page. The spelling wombler exists as a recently coined word for a dumpster diving recycler, borrowing the name of the British televesion show The Wombles, and wambler exists as a word for someone who walks with an unsteady, stumbling gait, but whombler doesn't show up anywhere, except in exact copies of this article's opening sentence, a internet forum post directly referencing this article, and Tumblr post from a few days ago - two months after the word was added by 50.156.202.239. I checked my Shorter Oxford English Dictionary, and it's not there either. A Google books search also shows no actual usage of the word, though it will take the cue from this article and treat it as a synonym for Stevadore. I'm pretty sure it was put in to have a laugh, either because it's a funny sounding word, or a joke about longshoreman as drunks.
Monkeyfoetus (talk) 09:14, 27 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing the word "Whombler" - It's not a real word. 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Docker. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 April 4#Docker until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  PamD 09:59, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Docker" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved.  —usernamekiran (talk) 17:00, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Stevedore →  – "Dockworker" seems the most appropriate term here, as it's general in use and does not have, for instance, a more narrow historical definition like "stevedore" does. The hits for "dock worker" and "dockworker" combined far outstrip the hits for "stevedore" and "longshoreman" combined, especially when looking at news articles. Eldomtom2 (talk) 23:12, 30 July 2023 (UTC)

text: Oppose. Ngram shows that use of stevedore far, far outweighs that of dockworker. Dawkin Verbier (talk) 07:38, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: As I mentioned in my proposal, check for "dock worker" as well as "dockworker".--Eldomtom2 (talk) 12:10, 31 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that stevedore is still higher than dockworker + dock worker (but decreasing and the difference isn't dramatic). Google Ngrams. SilverLocust 💬 01:27, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 30 July 2023 

message: From the lead:
A stevedore (/ˈstiːvɪˌdɔːr/), also called a longshoreman, a docker or a dockworker, is a waterfront manual laborer who is involved in loading and unloading ships, trucks, trains or airplanes.
I’ve never heard of anyone who loads/unloads trains or airplanes referred to as a stevedore, and definitely not a longshoreman.  Someone must’ve pulled that out of their...
The folks who load/unload aircraft are referred to as ramp workers or ramp agents.  The term “baggage smasher” has been applied to the workers who load/unload baggage from trains.
:216.152.18.132 (talk) 15:05, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Loading trains and planes?