Talk:Personal foul (basketball)

message: I would like to see an informed person elaborate on WHEN the charging and blocking fouls were added to the rules of basketball, as well as the rationale for their addition to the game.  I don't remember these rules being around in the 1960s.
:See  for a partial history of NBA rule changes.  There is nothing listed at that link that specifically addresses "charging" and "blocking" other than perhaps the 1954-55 change to record offensive fouls, but there are many changes listed over the years that affect the scope of enforcement of such fouls (e.g., the change to the "no-charge" area prior to the 1997-98 season; issues related to screening prior to the 1999-2000 and 2000-01 seasons; etc).  Please sign your posts in the future.  Myasuda 16:14, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charging and blocking fouls 

message: I notice that this article solely discusses the basketball definition of "personal foul", when there is the notion of a personal foul in many, many other sports, and in some cases (e.g. American football) it's specifically referred to as a "personal foul".  Might I suggest that this article be renamed "Personal foul (basketball)", and that a broader "Personal foul" article be written that refers to and briefly summarizes this one, and covers other sports' notions of personal fouls?  Then, immediately preceding the basketball section, an italicized link can be provided along the lines of "Main article: Personal foul (basketball)".  Of course, there'd have to be some genuine effort put into adding genuine content to the broader article, since it shouldn't be a disambiguation page.  I'm not saying this should happen, just offering it as a suggestion, given that "personal foul" is a term and concept that is hardly exclusive to basketball. Dave (talk) 00:57, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purely about basketball? 

message: I think that one very significant change was the elimination of the single free throw on common fouls before the bonus was reached; however as I recall this did not come in until the 70s or possibly even the 80s. I can't remember when. I think the reasoning was to speed up the game. Wschart (talk) 13:52, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes fromt the 50s and 60s 

message: Seems like Personal foul (basketball) and Foul (basketball) are similar topics.  Should they be merged?—Bagumba (talk) 01:56, 7 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't even know there was that other article...I agree they should be merged. AllPurposeGamer (talk) 06:32, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Similar articles 

message: I can't find a citation (no longer even the rules on the league websites), but in U.S. semi-pro basketball such as the PBL and ABA, where some teams have a limited number of marquee players, a coach could reinsert a player with six fouls into a game, even when not necessary to field a complete team, subject to the same rule that every additional foul would be penalized with an extra technical-foul shot.  Spike-from-NH (talk) 15:03, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Sixth-foul Status" 

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message: I came to this page hoping to better understand the playing strategy relating to the avoidance of "fouling out".  For example - during many NBA games, a player will be benched by his coach after just 3 fouls, 'to avoid getting more fouls'; but then the player comes back after a break. Then the same player may be benched again at 4 fouls, for the same reason.  But if 6 is the 'magic number' that gets the player ejected, why remove a player only temporarily at lower numbers of fouls?  The discussion by the commentators strongly suggests this is done to somehow avoid having the player 'get more fouls' ... but if they come back in after 5 minutes, they can just as easily get those same 'more fouls'.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.136.248.176 (talk) 17:43, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It may motivate the opposition and de-motivate the own team to have a player foul out.  Though getting into "foul trouble" is an arbitrary measure, sitting the player down may result in (1) discussions with the coaches as to what he is doing that is either illegal or is inducing the refs to call fouls on him; (2) rest for a player who is so tired that he is starting to play sloppily; (3) a break for a player who is getting such frequent calls against him that he might react against the refs.  Granted that the last five minutes are no "more important" than five minutes in the first half, but coaches tend to want, in those last five minutes, to have the maximum options on whom to play.  Anyone else with a better explanation?  Spike-from-NH (talk) 18:04, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fouling Out Strategy 

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replies: text: Yes, the link works.  But it would be good if someone can substitute a link to rules more current than 2008.  Spike-from-NH (talk) 12:14, 24 December 2017 (UTC)
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