Talk:Café

message: No offence meant to 81.215.118.78, the author of the following paragraph, but I've removed it to here pending referencing and editing.  Can anyone oblige?  (I'll do it myself in a day or twelve if no-one else steps up.)
:"But the origin of cafes are appeared in Istanbul at Ottoman Era in 1554. Hundreds of them was opened continiously. Most of them are a social club statues. Every guild was own cafe. And those names was 'yenichery cafe, 'sailors cafe', 'meddah(stand-up comadians) cafe, 'karagoz(shadow theatre) cafe'... etc. And specially public cafes turn on a 'singing cafe' at every nights."
—Sam Wilson (Australia) 09:57, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Origins

message: Is this true in UK and/or Commonwealth usage? This is definitely not true in U.S. usage. Here, the two words have different connotations. Most people use the word "cafeteria" to refer to a rather utility-grade (if you will) place to get some (utility-grade) food, such as the large room where schoolkids eat, or a restaurant that is set up in similar fashion (sometimes referred to as a "public cafeteria"; almost extinct nowadays). In the U.S., a stylish coffeeshop with good coffee and baked goods would almost never be called a "cafeteria", except as a rather idiolectic or ecolectic usage.
Obviously these words (café, cafeteria, coffeeshop) are used slightly differently in different English-speaking regions. The article ought to state this explicitly and neutrally, and briefly describe the usages in each region, e.g., Britain, Canada, Australia, U.S., etc. Right now I think people in each region have been overwriting each others' usages with a "that's incorrect!" kind of slant. We need to realize that there are regional differences, and list them.
— Lumbercutter 18:15, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Re cafés being "more commonly known as cafeterias"

message: Given that this article contains little content (most of it is etymology of the word), I suggest merging this article into coffeehouse. There is no real difference between a café and a coffeehouse, at least in my part of the English-speaking world. Comments? hajhouse 00:01, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I strongly agree with this proposal. I came here looking for the content that I ended up finding on the page coffeehouse; this page has "coffee shop" in bold and claims that that's distinct from "coffeehouse", but Coffee shop (disambiguation) includes entries for both "coffee shop" and "coffee house". Combine the two and have done with it. --AlexChurchill 23:26, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "...but Coffee shop (disambiguation) includes entries for both "coffee shop" and "coffee house"." - It does?  I don't see it.  Besides, what does that have to do with a café, or the fact cafés and coffee shops are different concepts? These should remain separate articles. Torc2 00:27, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

text: That term is used in very few countries, the articles should remain separate. The attempts to mutineer this article to become a discussion purely of US cafés has already made it bad enough. Owen214 (talk) 14:34, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggest merging this article into [[coffeehouse]] 

message: I am a European myself, and I am quite sure that nowhere in Europe people think of a café as a place to drink coffee and eat cake or a sandwhich. Although most European cafés do serve coffee, and sometimes also sandwiches and small meals, that is not what we think of when we talk about café. When we say café, we think of beer, wine or liquor.
A café is a place where we go to drink alcohol. Much like a pub in Brittain, or a bar in the US.
A place where you dink coffee may be called different names in different countries, in different regions even. Sometimes it's called a coffeeshop or coffeebar, sometimes it's called a snackbar. But then, in some European countries a snackbar is a fastfood restaurant.
But a café is always a place where alcohol is served.
Cfdemoor (talk) 16:06, 13 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The European meaning of café?

message: If the "Korean Cafe" section is to remain, it needs a tremendous amount of rewriting. It has grammar issues and has the tone of a promo piece. Also, there is no need to list every cafe in Korea and mention what's on their menu (note, I'm being partially sarcastic here). — al-Shimoni (talk) 05:24, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Korean Cafe