Talk:Annie Leonard

message: I just created the page, it's currently a stub and I am actively editing it. Please refrain from deleting it until I can complete the page. Thank you. Bstone (talk) 17:43, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Removing tags. Inviting the community to review the article. Bstone (talk) 18:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Please do not delete

message: I believe that the Story of Stuff and its increasing popularity makes Ms Leonard notable. As well her high profile in environmental activism augments her notability. Thus, I believe she withstands the test. Lastly, a google search of her name reveals 27,300 hits. Seems to me she passes. Bstone (talk) 18:40, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Her news notability can be discerned here. Clearly, she has been in the news and subject of many articles to the point where she is notable. Bstone (talk) 18:48, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you please integrate those references into the article? Jfire (talk) 19:06, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And it shall be. Let me just take a moment to say that I feel the speed in which this article was twice deleted is absolutely unacceptable. I had no sooner created the article and was going to add the hangon tag that it was deleted. Even when I added the tag it was still deleted. I feel as tho I am under some sort of clock or watchful eye to prove this article in as short a period as possible, which of course leads to all sorts of poor editing. As a long time wikipedia editor, I hearby express my frustration. Bstone (talk) 19:18, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I hear you. One good way to develop and article without a risk of it's being deleted prematurely is to develop the page as a user page first. Once you get it to a level that satisfies Wikipedia's guidelines for articles, it can easily be moved to the final location without losing any of the content or editing history. Jfire (talk) 19:42, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In consultation with an admin on IRC (as I think Deb has stepped out of this conversation), I have used some of the news articles to content and sources. As such, I am removing the notability tag. I am doing this in utter good faith. Bstone (talk) 23:37, 14 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Can you by chance list which site refers to what? The dead site is clearly the storyofstuff. It worked fine today. Must be a temporary issue. Also, I haven't even gone through 1/4 of the news articles about her. There are many more articles to get sourced info from. Bstone (talk) 06:15, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I listed them in the current order, so AlterNet=POV (partisan website), relocalize.net=blog-type, bioneers.org=conference. If you're still working on sources, that's cool, I'll give feedback as long as I can. Jfire (talk) 06:21, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've restored the notability and sources tags, as I do not believe the cited sources are reliable or establish the subject's notability. Jfire (talk) 19:23, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Notability has been established. Tag can be removed. Thank you. Bstone (talk) 20:03, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it has not. If you refuse to discuss the issue here, further tag removal will be treated as vandalism. Jfire (talk) 20:04, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do you need to immediately resort to threats, Jfire? It doesn't go over well nor is it accepted. Please rethink your tactics. Bstone (talk) 20:07, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Content disputes are not vandalism. I would like to see more sources, but I would also like to see this article remain. MarkBuckles  (talk) 09:53, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Notability

message: I am curious why this article is listed in the Articles with topics of unclear notability from January 2008 , All articles with unsourced statements and Articles with unsourced statements since January 2008 categories. There are no unsourced statements that I can see. Bstone (talk) 22:00, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As well as the one that's marked, you also need one for her testifying to Congress. Deb (talk) 22:07, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The website with the citations seems to be down. Let's wait a bit but when it comes back those statements will indeed be properly sourced. Bstone (talk) 22:11, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Categories

message: Is The Story of Stuff really a documentary?  It feels more like an argument or editorial in video form, and it may not belong in the same category as, say, the work of Ken Burns.
My guess is it is polemic which is common in some documentary films (it seems that nearly everything that is non-fiction in film is called documentary - maybe I should check wikipedia) - but can someone tell me how does one quaulify to be a "scholar" it seems rather meningless in this case?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.5.131.18 (talk) 11:37, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Documentary? 

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