Talk:Scotia

message: People keep editing this article to state that "Scotia" comes from "Skadi" and that "Skadi" is supposedly a Pictish goddess. Neither of these two claims have any baring in reality, it's Neo-Pagan pseudo-history. "Skadi" is a figure from Norse mythology, "Scotia" was named so before Norse people were even known about in Scotland or Ireland or anywhere in the British Isles. There is absolutely no evidence that "Skadi" is a Pictish figure, or name. The fact is, we know absolutely nothing of what Pictish mythology may have been. But in any case the only place on earth "Skadi" exists is in Norse mythology. Someone who idolizes the Norse may try to say that the Norse brought their mythology with them when they settled in Scotland BUT Scotland was already called Scotia for over 500 years BEFORE the Norse even knew the place existed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.97.110.77 (talk) 08:20, 28 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Skadi" 

message: Have you read this??
Please read this, it should summarize what can be said with certain and does not adopt the Irish-view-point disregarding logic and facts:
«After the fall of the Roman Empire, the coasts on the Irish Sea were raided by pirates either from Eastern Ireland or Western Scotland (more likely, since those pirates were known as Scotia or Scots). They did gain power in Western Scotland, which since then has been viewed as having a Celtic nature, originated new small kingdoms, and reinforced the idea of a common origin and that Scotland was somehow populated (or re-populated) by Gaelic Irish.»GFlusitania (talk) 03:49, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is not wholly unreasonable to use the term 'pirate' to describe raiders coming out of the sea, although it may not correspond perfectly to stricter definitions in the context of, say, maritime security and  international relations (arguably, somewhat anachronistic with reference the late-Roman period). Use of the term need not be seen as deliberately perjorative in relation to the raiders' place of origin, although it might of course communicate a germ of residual folk resentment, as we also find in reference to Saxons, Danes, Vikings, Border reivers and other interlopers. 
JF42 (talk) 09:52, 9 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: On Scotti, Scotia, and Scottish

message: The etymology of "Scotia" part is complete and utter non-sense, I won't remove it yet because I don't have any account and I know it will be probably be restored. "Skadi" is definitely not a "Pictish goddess", there is nothing known about Pictish religion really. But "Skadi" is a figure from NORSE mythology, not Pictish - and before someone jumps in and says the Picts were really Norse or something they definitely are not - the little we know about their language is 100% in line with it being Brythonic. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.97.111.152 (talk • contribs) 03:47, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Question:
Why the insistence (it's really copying and pasting from sources that don't not have much evidence to cosubstantiate the hypothesis) that Gaels were solely the dwellers of Ireland-Hibernia to the romans!- and that the travelled/invaded or whatever, Western Scotland during the last centuries of the Roman empire and later, and were then called Scotti/Scoti? So how come what is now Scotland was already called by the Romans, centuries before, Caledonia or Scotia-literally the land of Scotti-anyone?
And how come the ancient Irish were already in Ireland before the settlement of Scotland took place? 
GFlusitania (talk) 03:38, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scotia 

message: Content under 'Etymology and the origins' states that in Latin texts the earliest use of the term Scotia was in reference to people from Ireland
The intro seems, however, to imply much earlier use, and to make no reference to Ireland
Laurel Bush (talk) 11:21, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Hopefully fixed. Thanks. Dougweller (talk) 14:14, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading intro? 

message: Substituted at 05:36, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: "From the 9th century, its meaning gradually shifted, so that it came to mean only the part of Britain lying north of the Firth of Forth: the Kingdom of Scotland."
Presumably this means not the 'Kingdom of Scotland' but rather 'the Kingdom of Alba, which was at that time commonly referred to in English as the Kingdom of Scotland' 78.150.38.110 (talk) 11:52, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kingdom of Alba - not Scotland