Talk:Jean-Philippe Rameau

message: The libretto for BOREADES is an exquisite piece of poetry; Les Indes Galantes as well;
Who is the judge of what is poor poetry? Please put in some sources.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.223.205.132 (talk) 02:45, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Librettists second rate?  

message: The statements about Rameau's 'enemies' are extremely vague and sweeping. They seem to imply, first that anyone who didn't agree with him about music theory was his enemy; second, that anyone who disagreed with him about music theory exaggerated his character flaws. Neither claim is supported in any way - nor could it be, given the very large number of 18th century writers and musicians who disagreed with Rameau's theoretical views. --Tdent 20:47, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Enemies' ? 

message: A claim is made in this article to the effect that Rameau's harpsichord works are not idiomatic to the harpsichord (literally, not as idiomatic as Couperin's) and that they sound better on piano. This should sound spurious immediately. Material paraphrased; contested claims in italics. I have marked the statement in question here. --♦♦♦Vlmastra♦♦♦ (talk) 17:25, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed. I don't know how that got there. There is no way of making that statement NPOV. --Folantin (talk) 17:29, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it's less bad than it seems. It's just ambiguous. "[T]hey place less importance on ornamentation and are more satisfying when played on the piano" is supposed to mean they "are more satisfying when played on the piano" than Couperin's harpsichord works (a commonly held opinion) NOT "they are more satisfying when played on the piano" rather than on the harpsichord. --Folantin (talk) 17:40, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

text: That does sound more reasonable, since Baroque ornamentation is generally less tenable on the resonating piano, but it still needs citing. Edit: And clarification, of course. --♦♦♦Vlmastra♦♦♦ (talk) 17:44, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Better on Piano" 

message: Insofar as the article deals with fairly precise developments in musical history, the lack of technical details is disappointing. Specifically, what elements in Rameau's music, outside of the purely stylistic cast of genres and forms, excited the admiration/hostility of his contemporaries? Any innovation/experimentation of a harmonic and melodic character should be described, or at least limned out, with reference to the ongoing history of dissonance and tonality in Western music.Orthotox (talk) 09:28, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's hard to understand these criticisms. The article is an extraordinary detailed and well-informed treatment that reflects a depth of erudition and intelligence seldom found anywhere. I can't seem to find the name of the article's author but am grateful that Wikipedia found such an intelligent scholar to write it.  Tomkirby-smith (talk) 22:48, 20 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Theoretic Specifics

message: Hello.  I'm a professional harpsichordist -- First Prize from the Paris Conservatory and International Prize in 1977.  I recently recorded Rameau's Musette and Tambourin (from the Suite in E) for pleasure (license CC by-sa), and would like to add them to the Rameau article.  I think these would be a good addition to the site; can someone advise me how to proceed? FYI: the files are here and here on Commons. Richard D Siegel (talk) 18:25, 20 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: You should provide an English title, eg "Musette from the Suite in E minor, RCT 2", "Tambourin from the Suite in E minor, RCT 2" (I'm guessing), and then use the template  to insert it at the appropriate place. If those pieces are indeed from Pièces de Clavecin, I strongly suggest to place those files in that article, not here. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 05:15, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much for your help. Please let me know if there is anything else I can do.Richard D Siegel (talk) 20:43, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  New recordings on Harpsichord