Talk:MSNBC/archive

message: Leans left? Despite his democratic credentials, he's pretty centrist, actually, and claims to have voted for Bush at least once. Check out his profile at media matters.  I am changing the description to "centrist" for the time being. If you can think of a better descriptor, go for it, but not "leans to the left." 68.110.199.122 14:52, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think he certainly leans to the left.  Any conservative would laugh at the "center right" that was given to him in this article - it's just not accurate.  Beside that, I don't consider Media Matters, a leftist organization in their own right, a reputable source on who is on what side of the political spectrum.  70.168.32.250 07:43, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Personally, that whole paragraph is iffy. I don't like how it categorizes all the hosts as "left" or "center-right" or whatever. Where they are on the political spectrum varies greatly depending on who you ask. It's not even necessary to the article, is it, to have all the host's politics in there? --71.102.169.120 00:13, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As the person who put it in, I think it does. The point is that MSNBC's pundits are not all liberals or conservatives. But the fact they have pundits at all separates them from a CNN which is pure news with no pundit-type show on the schedule (now that Crossfire got cancelled). The question is what are the punditry shows on MSNBC. Scarborough and Matthews would obviously qualify because they like injecting their opinion. Olbermann, not so much. Rita Cosby, the same. Calwatch 05:38, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chris Matthews 

message: lugnuts6 made some very extensive questionable edits of this article. can any of his information be confirmed?
:It's about half accurate, 30% wrong and 20% POV. I'll change the things I know are flat-out wrong, but to be honest I think it's so horribly written that we should just revert. Aaron 17:32, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  edit by Lugnuts6 

message: I am trying to piece together the history of MSNBC. Hopefully this will not turn out to be a POV-contentious issue like the other two news channels (and the fact is that there is a lot less stuff out there on MSNBC, which helps in cutting the volume down). I am working on it chronologically and so it will look somewhat abrupt at times, so bear with me. Unfortunately the sources are all newspaper articles dredged up from Lexis Nexis that would be painful to cite, but if anyone really wants me to do it, let me know and I can certainly reference whatever is necessary. Calwatch 08:08, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I wish you the best of luck, Calwatch! Jerry Nachman once said on the air that MSNBC had changed its prime time lineup 69 times in the same amount of time that Fox had changed its lineup twice. There's a whole lot of detail out there if you dig deep enough ... waaaay too much detail probably. But I'd love to see it all in the article. And I certainly don't expect to see you have to cite every fact you uncover, not by a long shot. --Aaron 22:42, 31 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: I'm not too sure that MSNBC is portmanteau of MSN and NBC.  Back when this channel was formed, Microsoft practically forgot they had an isp until one day they decided they wanted to compete with AOL.  This day came long after the formation of this channel.  Actually, I think it's just MS(Microsoft)/NBC(NBC).--Attitude2000 22:33, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it's correct as it is now. The URL for MSNBC is http://www.msnbc.msn.com/. So, it is a combo of the MSN network and NBC. dposse 21:29, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portmanteau? 

message: In order to make this page look less like an advertisement, I have gone through the painful yet necessary process of sifting through Lexis-Nexis and citing sources. No book has ever been written about MSNBC (yet there are several on Fox News and CNN), so most of the content will necessarily come from newspapers and magazines. If there is a disagreement, please cite a source instead of deleting the reference. Thank you. Calwatch 05:19, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Citing sources