Talk:Valley of Mexico

message: I have coordinates for the valley from the source I named as Lafragua. However, I do not know how to integrate them into the article. It did not seem right to put them in the body.  The coordinates are between parallels 19º03’36” and 20º11’24” North and 98º12’00” and 99º31’12” West. Thanks Thelmadatter (talk) 15:20, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I can tell, the coordinate system doesn't allow for ranges, but I've added the coords for about the centre of the range you've given. Best regards, Simon Burchell (talk) 17:15, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
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message: Intro - "a small gap to the north where there are no high peaks" - needs rewording small gap sounds out of place  The Bald One      White cat  11:51, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I managed it.  I wish we could steal the diagram that is in the Lafregua reference (#4) and then indicate where the lakebed is. In the other three basins, its just piedmont and mountains with no water accumulation (it all goes to the largest section of the valley. Ill ask the BF (a graphic designer) if he'd be interested in creating a new version of that diagram.Thelmadatter (talk) 15:31, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments from Blofeld

message: I find it odd that the inhabitation of the valley was moved over and above the general description of it.Thelmadatter (talk) 00:47, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Organization of article

message: Some thoughts on this article:
*The lead paragraph starts by saying where it's located.  This goes against the Manual of Style which says: "The article should begin with a short declarative sentence, answering two questions for the nonspecialist reader: "What (or who) is the subject?" and "Why is this subject notable?""
*The reference ""Mexico City: Opportunities and Challenges for Sustainable Management of Urban Water Resources" is used nearly 30 times, particularly for some rather controversial statements such as "Around 2,000 years ago, the Valley of Mexico became one of the world’s most densely populated areas and has remained so since" and other statements dealing with the pre-Columbian population.  I would suggest that this paper is not the best source for pre-Columbian population or other matters, since the focus of the paper, and presumably the expertise of the authors, is on water management, not history or archaeology.  It is also disturbing that we don't even know who the authors are.
*The statement "In the early 8th century, with the rise of the Toltec empire, Teotihuacan ceased to be a major urban centre and the population shifted to Tollan or Tula on the northern front of Valley of Mexico." implies to me at least that the Toltec empire caused the decline of Teotihuacan, which is not necessarily the case.
*The headings seem to be inconsistently sized.
*There are broken parentheses and square brackets and some rather clumsy wordings throughout.
I do think that some major and excellent work has brought this important article to its present level, but it requires some further polishing and work before it could be categorized as a Good Article. I'll try to help, but am tied up with non-WP work nowadays.  Thanks, Madman (talk) 06:06, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd also add, that nowadays the description of a "Toltec empire" has little currency in modern scholarship, the whole toltec concept has undergone considerable review. I think the article as a whole is pretty good, but the precolumbian history bit could use some more polishing. Unfortunately like Madman my time's limited ATM, but if I do manage to free some up over the next couple weeks will see if I can help out. --cjllw ʘ TALK 04:49, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I just added a proper lead paragraph per the Manual of Style.  I still find the now-second paragraph to be rather confusing.  Madman (talk) 05:25, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Good article nomination critique

message: Unfortunately, real life has gotten in the way... more work and health issues. It is not possible for me to address these issues in any timely way, if at all.Thelmadatter (talk) 01:28, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Real Life

message: *oppose the merging of Anahuac (Aztec) into Anahuac Valley (which happens to redirect to here). The two are not one and the same thing, see reasons and detailing of the various meanings/uses of Anahuac in postclassic/post-conquest central Mexico, previously discussed at Talk:Anahuac. --cjllw ʘ TALK 07:25, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal for [[Anahuac (Aztec)]] 

message: User:Craftdraw recently moved this page from Valley of Mexico to Mexico Valley. While I agree that Mexico Valley is, strictly speaking, better grammatically, it does not accurately reflect common English-language usage in reliable sources.
As an example, I ran both terms through Google scholar.
Mexico Valley got 1170 hits, while Valley of Mexico got 17100 hits. Straight Google got 354000 hits for Valley of Mexico, while Mexico Valley got 34600 results. Given that both academic and common usage overwhelmingly favour Valley of Mexico, I propose that the page be moved back. Simon Burchell (talk) 10:51, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that Craftdraw is indefinitely blocked, I'll go ahead and move the page back. Simon Burchell (talk) 11:28, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
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