Talk:Ostracism

message: In the references section, the links to the Pereus Digital Library are incorrect and go to no document. For example, 
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Plut.+Cim.+17.1&fromdoc=Perseus%3Atext%3A2008.01.0017
goes to Ch 17 of Plutarch's Life of Cimon, but the article has
http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text.jsp?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0182:text=Cim.:chapter=17
Presumably PDL changed their url format at some point. I don't know how to edit the references section (it's just {reflist}), but presumably a more experienced Wikipedian can.128.220.159.7 (talk) 04:27, 22 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead Links 

message: Which month for ostracism? January, according to
http://hrsbstaff.ednet.ns.ca/waymac/History%20A/A%20Term%202/3.%20%20Ancient%20Classical%20Greece/Greece_supplemental_notes.htm
user:djnjwd
Moved from main page->
To be added:
  Aristides and the ostracism anecdote 
  evidence for potential ostracism fraud (more) 
Barnaby dawson 13:56, 28 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: I Completely rewrote the entry  below. Have I formatted ok? Flounderer 12:50, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The exile was ten years — 1 person was chosen each year to go into exile. Elle vécut heureuse à jamais (Be eudaimonic!) 02:13, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

text: "Excile" vs "ostracism" — From reading other things, it seems to me that perhaps there was a different sanction, "excile", available through the democracy's laws? Excile being a permanent "don't come back" deal. If someone more knowlegeable could expand the "Excile" article with a paragraph or two on Exile in Ancient Greece, and post a "See also" here, I think people would be glad of the information. I would, anyway!
Tkbwik (talk) 10:41, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  expansion of article 

message: "The person nominated had ten days to leave the city — if he attempted to return, the penalty was death"
What is the source of this? I know for a fact that Aristotle says nothing about this.
I see it as it  was meant to be used im assuming for the good of all mankind as in used in a political way ...i see it more in a common today version as clicks....less complex but used to controll who you choose to associate with or disassociate ...or as in churches i see common things like used in church memembership ...suggesting you to become a memember as a Church Family , it sounds so nice...Family...but when you decide for whatever reason to maybe just out of meeting others in the faith step out of that church so called Family into another Church so called Family you are Ostracised...so if its a thing where your not part of this family we disown you...sounds almost like a gang...a click...a cult.
Same as with friends a friend can have a conflict of interst with another friends friend...next thing you know sides are being taken and stead of two conflicts you have group conflict then back in the Ostracism game again......
For me to define Ostracism id say its a head game that should have been life back in high school long ago...we can all agree to disagree but the problem is there is no love...love never fails ...so i think we have failed as mankind to communicate as well as do things with the right motives so we instead harbor feelings and instead of dealing with it we run....ok im done : P  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.226.214.74 (talk) 16:39, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death? 

message: I removed this sentence:
A social anthropological example of ostracism is the pre-colonial Australian Aboriginal social expulsion of tribe members, sometimes even resulting in death.A social anthropological example of ostracism is the pre-colonial Australian Aboriginal social expulsion of tribe members, sometimes even resulting in death.
because first is unsourced, secondly assumes that there is an unified "aboriginal culture" and that doesn't seem the case (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australian_Aboriginal_culture) and last but not least has very little to do with the content of article.
If someone have any serious source for the statement and feels it belong in the lead section, can undo my changes.
--Dia^ (talk) 10:14, 5 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australians 

message: In the list of ostracisms in ancient times (in the "Period of Operation" section), the hyper-link to Hipparchus takes you to the page of the Greek mathematician of the second century BC instead of to the page of the Hipparchus who was the relative of the tyrant Peisistratus. Could this please be fixed? This would involve creating a whole new page specifically for this person. Reference: Aristotle's Athenian Constitution (22.4)
Orelius (talk) 12:35, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Faulty link 

message: A number of queries, here:
* What is the source for Kallixenos having been head of the Alcaemonid family?  I can't find anything.
* What is the source of the date?  All the sources I can find say that the Kallixenos ostraka date to 483 or 482 BC (e.g. Stamires & Vanderpool, 1950; Lewis, 1974)
* Calling it a "known ostracism" is a little bit strong.  The most comprehensive discussion of Kallixenos I can find is Stamires & Vanderpool, who say "Whether or not this campaign resulted in his ostracism, it is not possible at present to say".
Caeciliusinhorto (talk) 20:21, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  supposed ostracism of Kallixenos 

message: Plutarch has an anecdote about an ostracism, where an illiterate rustic asks a superior citizen to write the name, on his behalf, 'on an oyster shell' - the irony being that the citizen he asks is the subject of the ostracism. 2001:44B8:3102:BB00:44:B51C:7976:E255 (talk) 10:15, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oyster shells 

message: I propose that this article be split into Ostracism (ancient Greece) and Ostracism (social behavior), leaving a disambiguation page at Ostracism. Apart from having the same name, it is not clear to me that these topics share the same subject. Essentially, I propose that the entire Modern usage section become the Ostracism (social behavior) article. Daask (talk) 15:14, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the discussion of "modern usage" isn't really in scope for an article on the Athenian practice of ostracism.  I'm not sure that we need a new article for ostracism (social behaviour), though: I suspect that the content currently in that section can be moved into existing articles, such as shunning or silent treatment. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 14:15, 14 March 2022 (UTC)

text: I'd support a split if there is enough coverage to show it can be separate article from shunning.★Trekker (talk) 12:45, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split proposal 

message: Both say 6000 for Plutarch and Philocrus (or something like that). Yet people said Plutarch's was better. 1q9w (talk) 01:37, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Plutarch says 6,000 votes total; Philochorus says 6,000 had to vote for the person being banished. So, for example, if 3,500 voted for Plutarch to be banished and 3,000 for Philochorus to be banished, under Plutarch's rule he would have been banished but under Philochorus' he would not. Caeciliusinhorto-public (talk) 08:24, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quorum