Talk:Shankarananda (Shiva Yoga)

message: Here is another article and similar content. Can you guys check, if this is worth including. --User:Vigyani 08:28, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: One of the strong reason behind inserting such material to Satyanand Saraswati was that he is not alive anymore, no one was violating Wikipedia:BLP by inserting the allegations. But Shankaranada is a very different subject. No investigation have been made and it reads like a Wikipedia:GOSSIP. Bladesmulti (talk) 08:32, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Namaste , I think it is not yet ready for inclusion, Like  said, WP:BLP will require sources better than what were presented and the title was a definite no no. --AmritasyaPutraT 10:27, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not about citations, it is just about anything that has not been proven. I can cite a few pages where even almost proven allegations have not been inserted. See Wikipedia:BLPCRIME. Bladesmulti (talk) 10:35, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
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message: Please make the following changes to improve the accuracy and content of the article:
CHANGE REQUEST #1 - "..self-published author.."
1a) Please Update: "Swami Shankarananda is a self-published author of several books on meditation and the philosophy and practice of Kashmir Shaivism."
1b) Change To    :     "Swami Shankarananda is a published author of several books on meditation and the philosophy and practice of Kashmir Shaivism."
1c) Rationale Is :  There is no evidence or source to suggest that Swami Shankarananda has self-published his books.  There are 4 books listed in the biography and there are no references to "self-published".
CHANGE REQUEST #2 - "..(Shiva Ashram), now called the Sri Nityananda Ashram.."
2a) Please Update: " He is a spiritual teacher in Australia[1][2] where he founded a residential spiritual school (Shiva Ashram) , now called the Sri Nityananda Ashram where about 20 seekers live and members of the wider public visit for programs, retreats and courses.  The former Shiva Ashram closed in 2015[3][4]"
2b) Change To    :     "He is a spiritual teacher in Australia[1][2] and founded two residential spiritual schools, the Shiva Ashram and the Sri Nityananda Ashram.  The Sri Nityananda Ashram is residence to spiritual seekers and is open to members of the wider public for programs, retreats and courses.  The former Shiva Ashram closed in 2015[3][4]"
2c) Rationale Is :  There is no evidence or source to suggest a link between the Shiva Ashram and Sri Nityananda Ashram.  The newspaper citation identifies the Shiva Ashram as a business operating entity, which has gone into liquidation (""Yoga school to be wound up", Keith Platt, Mornington Peninsula News, 27 April 2015. Retrieved 18 June 2015."). There is no evidence or source to support the statement, "..where he founded a residential spiritual school (Shiva Ashram) , now called the Sri Nityananda Ashram.."
CHANGE REQUEST #3 - "..residential Ashram on the Mornington Peninsula.."
3a) Please Remove: "In 1991 he founded a residential Ashram on the Mornington Peninsula."
3b) Rationale Is :  This information is repeated.  The synopsis section of the Wikipedia article identifies that Swami Shankarananda founded two spiritual schools.  The Wikipedia page, "Shiva Ashram", provides organisational and location information.
CHANGE REQUEST #4 - "Lineage" section
4a) Please Update: "Shankarananda has held several events with other teachers in his lineage[6] and, in 2009, launched a website that documents Bhagavan Nityananda, Swami Muktananda and the many gurus of his lineage.[7]"
4b) Change To    :     "Shankarananda studied Kashmir Shaivism under his guru Swami Muktananda, a disciple of Bhagavan Nityananda."
4c) Rationale Is :  The statement, "Shankarananda has held several events with other teachers in his lineage", does not add to the informational value of the article.  The statement, "..and, in 2009, launched a website that documents Bhagavan Nityananda, Swami Muktananda and the many guru's of his lineage.[7]" is about the existence of a website and not relevant to the discussion of Shankarananda's lineage.  The suggested sentence is a more precise statement of "Lineage", and is extracted from information content within the Wikipedia article.
CHANGE REQUEST #5 - "Controversy" section
5a) Please Update: "In 2015, two newspapers reported on allegations of “secret sexual relations” between Shankarananda and women in the ashram community.[10][11]"
5b) Change To    :     "In 2015, two newspapers reported on allegations of “sexual relations” between Shankarananda and some members of the Shiva Ashram.[10][11]"
5c) Rationale    :  There is no such quote, "secret sexual relations", within the newspaper citations (Refer to citations [10][11]).  The newspaper citations refer to "sexual relations".  For correctness, the newspaper citations allege sexual relations between Shankarananda and some women and members within the Shiva Ashram community.  The newspaper articles do not include the second, Nityananda Ashram.
CHANGE REQUEST #6 - "Controversy" section
6a) Please Remove: "On hearing the revelations, some members of the community stayed while others chose to leave."
6b) Rationale    : The highlighted content is speculative; it assumes, "On hearing the revelations, some members of the community stayed while others chose to leave".  There is no evidence or source to support why people left.
 
CHANGE REQUEST #7 - "Controversy" section
7a) Please Remove: "Yoga Australia suspended its accreditation of Shiva Ashram programs,[12] and the organization went into liquidation[13]. Shankarananda resigned as director but remained as spiritual head,[14] as well as retaining the main ashram property.[15] The property is now called Sri Nityananda Ashram, and Shankarananda continues to run regular programs for residents and the public."
7b) Rationale    : This section duplicates the content on the "Shiva Ashram" Wikipedia page. The statement relates to the operation and administration of the Shiva Ashram as a commercial entity. The statements do not align with the biographical nature of this Wikipedia article. Wiki Research WKADM1 (talk) 01:06, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: --Regrets.Many/most of the changes seems utterly biased to be incorporated.Inspite, w.r.t to some of your proposals, I will be taking a look at the entire article soon.Winged Blades Godric 10:53, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
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