Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Japan/Archive/September 2006

message: I've just created the Shiina Ringo discography page, but I need help getting the songs'/albums' kanji/kana names, as I am but a novice when it comes to this. The 2½ albums that are already done were done a long time ago by someone who doesn't seem to be coming back and I would greatly appreciate any help in finally getting this done. Thanks. MightyMoose22 >Abort, Retry, Fail?_ 12:52, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Any [[Shiina Ringo]] fans out there?

message: This image, uploaded by now-inactive editor TakuyaMurata, has been tagged for deletion because it lacks information about its source. Anyone who knows where this image came from can add the info to the image description page, and then remove the  line. Regards, Awyong Jeffrey Mordecai Salleh 15:22, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:36, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Question, can we not only scale this image down but perhaps make it a jpeg file? IMHO, while this is a good quality scan, I think it is too big for it to be fair use and also should not be a PNG image (which should be used for raster graphics). User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 19:15, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: JPEGs are raster graphics, too, so I don't really see how that would make a difference. I believe the file being used is the exact file as found on the source site. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:56, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll try it and see how it works. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 18:51, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image:Koizumi manifesto.png 

message: There was a cut and paste move of J-Rock to Japanese rock and the category was subsequently redone without a WP:CFD rename request. So input is requested at the CfR for J-Rock and at a WP:RM on Japanese rock. 132.205.45.148 03:17, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  J-Rock 

message: In my view, this should be further subdivided a little in order to reflect the dramatic changes that have occurred in the Prime Minister's power, from Itō through to Tojo and up to the present day. The problem is, I don't quite know how to subdivide it. We could do it by Imperial Era, but that would encompass both military dictators and democratic leaders during the Shōwa period, which obviously saw the greatest changes. We could do it by Constitution–Meiji and the current one–though we would have to note that Itō served his first term before the Meiji Constitution was promulgated. Personally, I'm partial to this solution. But there might be others, ot we could just leave it alone. What say you? Biruitorul 03:33, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Template:Prime Ministers of Japan]]

message: The article Go (board game) is currently on featured article review, meaning it may lose its featured status if not significantly improved. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 17:09, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FAR listing of Go (board game) 

message: Please join in the discussion over at Talk:Battle of Nagashino. There appears to be a debate over the extent to which cavalry charges did or did not occur in feudal Japan. LordAmeth 18:46, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If I knew anything at all about cavalry charges in feudal Japan, I'd be there. Unfortunately, I know nothing about them. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 23:20, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Takeda/Sengoku cavalry charge 

message: Hi. This is Wikimachine, and I am not part of the WikiProject. But I have been working on Sea of Japan naming dispute, and I saw that the article was rated as 'start'. I have various reasons to believe that the article does not deserve 'start', and that the grading was biased to a point. The article is probably one of the most developed articles, striving for neutrality on such a controversial issue. There are 3 archives full of discussions, conflicts, votes, and consensus. Please reconsider your grading for the article. Status quo does no justice to those who spent countless amount of hours to work on the article. (Wikimachine 04:34, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree!  It is definitely not start class!  I raised its ranking up to B, although it can probably be put through a formal Good Article review. MightyAtom 04:44, 6 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure what you mean by "status quo does no justice" as a Start rating is hardly "status quo". Regardless of that, however, article ratings are free to be changed by any member of the project if that member thinks the article doesn't fit into the criteria for the given class. Thanks for taking care of that, MightyAtom. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:09, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much. "Status quo" means the current situation. Thanks. (Wikimachine 00:53, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I'm aware of the meaning of "status quo", but that's not what I was questioning. I wrote, "I'm not sure what you mean by 'status quo does no justice' as a Start rating is hardly 'status quo'." There's a big difference. Either way, it's been handled. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 05:37, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sea of Japan naming dispute 

message: I've recently created this infobox for use in the articles about Japanese professional baseball teams.  All the information is already on all the pages in non-infobox form, but I thought this would be a bit more organized. The box is currently featured on the Orix Buffaloes page for testing. If everyone likes it, we can go ahead and apply it to each teams page. El Cid 05:28, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good (sorry for being slow to comment). ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 17:44, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:Japanese baseball team]] 

message: I've started some work on local and prefectural elections in Japan, as can be seen in :Category:Elections in Japan. But there seems to be very few sources on the net, does anyone here know good places to find information? --Jonte-- 16:49, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I found this site, but I don't know how complete (or accurate) it is. http://www.geocities.co.jp/HeartLand-Poplar/5755/senkyoichiran.htm  He also has links to other resources, but nothing I could find in a brief search could top his list.  I don't know of any official government site that tracks elections. Neier 13:21, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

text: hi, "" category in Y!Japan lists 44 prefectual election administration commitees out of 47. Most of those sites have the original data of recent election results. Masao 01:57, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elections in Japan 

message: Hi everyone. Sudoku is currently undergoing a Featured article review. Please go here to leave comments and help us maintain its featured quality. Marskell 09:45, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sudoko FAR review 

message: Bishōjo game is up for a featured article review. Detailed concerns may be found here. Please leave your comments and help us address and maintain this article's featured quality.  Sandy 00:38, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Bishōjo game]]

message: The links to Fan Fiction and Theme songs should be removed, since fan fiction and theme songs appear in all forms of media from many different nationalities, thus they are not directly related to Japan. For example, Star Wars has a theme song, the Simpsons have a theme song, Futurama has a theme song, etc. It's like adding a link to Wikipedia:WikiProject Television or to Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink since the Japanese watch television and eat food.--TBCTaLk?!? 19:31, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As these are links to related topics (as indicated by the column/section header under which they are found), I don't see why it matters if they are there. Fan fiction is very closely related to Japan as the general popularity of it was greatly magnified by the very large number of anime and manga fans who participate. Yes, there are fan fictions written outside of the anime and manga setting, but do a search for it in any search engine and the vast majority will be related to anime and manga. As for the Theme songs WikiProject, again I ask, "Why does it matter if the link is there?" It's meant to point people to a related project (as all anime, and even some manga, have theme songs). ···日本穣 · Talk to Nihonjoe 20:58, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But how "related" are these related topics? Using my previous example, couldn't someone add Wikipedia:WikiProject Television or to Wikipedia:WikiProject Food and drink since the Japanese watch television and eat food?--TBCTaLk?!? 21:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, someone could add them. But why do you even care what links are on the project page of a project in which you aren't actively participating? Please note that this question is asked sincerely, without any ill will or intent. If you don't want to list yourself as a participant of a particular project, why does it matter to you what that project decides to link to on that project's page? ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:05, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well... I am the founder/active participant of Wikipedia:WikiProject Nintendo, which is a descendant WikiProject of Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan. Either way, I do admit that I may be over-reacting a bit to a small technicality. :) --TBCTaLk?!? 21:20, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd have to search through the history of the page to see who added them (who knows? it may have been me). I think the Theme song project may be pushing things as far as "related" projects go, but the fan fiction link is definitely related. And both of them may actually be more appropriate for placement somewhere on the Anime and manga project page. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 21:33, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fan fiction and theme songs

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thread_title: Tagging talk pages and assessing articles

message: The article Suikinkutsu is up for GA re-review due to having no inline citations. Interested editors are encouraged to go help out the article so it doesn't lose its GA rating. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 04:16, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suikinkutsu 

message: Just an FYI, I've created a userbox for those who have been awarded a Barnsensu award. It can be found at Wikipedia:WikiProject Japan/Barnsensu userbox. EVula 06:47, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barnsensu userbox 

message: I was looking for help on placing a template to an article (Hiroyuki Agawa needs a {{Nihongo| and check for a possible ja: article) I wrote, namely to have someone (able to write kanjis etc.) check the article, but there are currently none mentioned. Are there such templates (expert-Japan, wfy-Japan?) for Japan-related articles and could they be listed here (WP:JAPAN)? Best, feydey 09:15, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I updated the above article, and I agree that a template like what you mentioned would be useful. Neier 10:57, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japan-related templates