Talk:Big Trouble in Little China

message: Is a random huffpo article really relevant enough for an entire section?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.62.60.2 (talk) 23:16, 4 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Themes

message: The machine gun used in the movie was a modified Carl Gustaf M/45, not a modified Intratec TEC-DC9, but the TEC-DC9 is also made using parts from the M/45. It may be OR, but I've met the designer and he told me so. He actualy made a living making custom guns. But the TEC-DC9 was developed during the same period, so it's not suprising they have a simmilar look. The TEC-DC9 was a yet unnamed (as far as I know) prototype by 1989. // Liftarn
Can you provide anything else to back this statement up? It sure looks like a Tec-9 to me. Also, the Tec-9 page shows it as being in production in 1985, and the ATF knowing of it's existence in 1982. Is that wrong? --JOK3R 16:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He's not citable per Wikipedia standards so I guess it will have to go. // Liftarn
It seems that almost immediatly after I made the change someone else cut away everything but that a TEC-9 is seen in a poster for it, is that even worth having at all? Highlandlord 03:30, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

text: That was me.  If it's a TEC-9, then it's not remodeled or specially made for the film.  It's just a bog standard TEC-9. :-) The trivia section isn't really supposed to exist at all in film articles, according to WP guidelines, so the interesting stuff should be integrated into the text and the useless bits should be deleted.  Geoff B 06:16, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Notice the front of the gun. The protection around the barrel. That's directly from the m/45. But then the TEC-9 is a redesigned m/45 so it's difficult to tell just by looking at them. Also check Interdynamic MP-9. // Liftarn
The perforated jacket around the barrel is typical of TEC-9s pre-1994.  Not to mention that the style of perferations are totally different to those on the M/45.  The initial KG-9 model was changed to KG-99 in the mid 1980s (when BTILC was made) and designated the TEC-9.  If you go to tyhe TEC-9 page here on WP, the pic is of an AB-10 model, which lacks the perforated jacket around the muzzle.  There would be no reason on Earth to use a modified M/45, as the TEC-9 was already in production.  Geoff B 20:54, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: The wiki article suggests that this was originally a cowboy movie.  However the IMDB suggests that this was originally the sequel to Buckaroo Banzai, known as Buckaroo Banzai vs. The World Crime Syndicate.  Which is correct?
:According to the film's commentary, with Kurt Russell and John Carpenter, the script went through a few incarnations.
JC: "It was originally a Western, with a cowboy riding into town...he does the same basic thing, he gets involved, they steal his horse or something so he has to go into this underworld...it was modernised by W. D. Richter (sp?) and his rationale was Rosemary's Baby worked because it was the modern day, so why wouldn't this?"
KR: "Had he done Buckaroo Banzai?"
JC: "He had done that."
So it was definitely a Western originally, but it may have been adapted by Richter to be a BB sequel before being changed again.  Geoff B 06:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins of the Story 

message: I've re-written the WoW paragraph so that the movie references are followed by the game references - since that is the chronological sequence. [Sorry that I forgot I wasn't signed in at the time.] I have also hyphenated "Six-Demon" and "Upside-Down" on what I concede are solely my personal stylistic preferences. If anyone can cite a published screenplay or studio-based movie website to the contrary, that's great. But the mentions in WoW, being derivative works, would not be authoritative. Ribonucleic 19:39, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  World of Warcraft trivia paragraph 

message: The article currently describes him as a "magician". Aside from the term's unfortunate rabbit-from-the-hat associations, is there any textual basis for this designation - as opposed to "wizard" or "sorcerer"? Although Lo Pan sneers at Egg's "peasant magic", I don't believe this establishes anything. And FWIW - admittedly next-to-nothing - the top Google match for "Egg Shen" describes him as a "sorcerer" and "alchemist".  Ribonucleic 00:44, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Egg Shen's designation as a magic practitioner 

message: Since "old Jack" doesn't appear in any other works that I'm aware of, I don't see how he justifies his own article - especially when it's only a stub [and not a particulary well-written one IMHO]. So I've heeded the encouragement to Be Bold and brought in what I thought was the best that article had to offer. This required an extensive rewrite of the Plot summary - which still needs the Lo Pan plot explained a lot better than I can do at the moment without watching the movie again. Ribonucleic 05:17, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with Jack Burton article 

message: from The American Heritage Dictionary:
bluff (adj) - Rough and blunt but not unkind in manner
buff (adj) - (slang) Having good muscle tone; physically fit and trim
While Jack meets both descriptions, I thought the first was more germane. Also: although I can't locate one, I assume there's a rule of article style that rules out slang. So I'm changing this back. Ribonucleic 14:19, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bluff vs. Buff 

message: If I may be indulged this typographical nitpickery, I believe that vehicles with proper names are italicized rather than put in quotation marks. For example: The General Lee. Ribonucleic 16:28, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italicization instead of quotation marks on The Pork Chop Express 

message: Hehe, it would be nice to see the Chinese names of people in this movie added to the article.  Actors, sure, but the characters especially.  Is the name of Lo Pan "indeed" spelled 羅盤 as one article suggests???  In the movie, I catch a brief glipse of graffiti which says, "樓something舘".  I can't make out the middle character on my small screen, but it's not 下.  (So his name is Lou, not Luo...?)  Anyway, any further clarifications of the names in the movie would be funtimes.  ^.^ WuShufei 23:05, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese names and titles 

message: This info kinda falls under the Trivia section and is either not cited or, in the case of the video games, is cited but really can't have its own section as there isn't much info so I'm putting it here until it can be expanded. --J.D. (talk) 20:06, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Other media

message: This section is unsourced and reeks of trivia so I've moved it here until it can be cited and integrated back into the article.
The Six Demon Bag also appears in the MMORPG World of Warcraft as an obtainable Rare item. It is also the name of Philadelphia band Man Man's 2006 album.
The character of Lightning from the film was the inspiration for Raiden in Mortal Kombat, and Lo Pan was the inspiration for Shang Tsung, both according to developer Dan Forden.
===Films===
The t-shirt worn by Kurt Russell in the film can be seen hanging on a wall during a scene in a bar in Quentin Tarantino's Death Proof (2007). 
===Video Games===
In World of Warcraft, players can collect a trinket called the 'Six Demon Bag' containing "...wind, fire, all that kind of thing!"
In World of Warcraft, there is a hidden, normally inaccessible room under the crypts in Deadwind Pass with the name "The Upside-down Sinners," influenced by the movie.
The Fighter Raiden (Mortal Kombat) from the Mortal Kombat series was heavily influenced by one of the villains in this movie, Lightning.
In the in the game Fallout 2, players encounter Lo Pan in San Francisco.
In City of Heroes and City of Villains, there is a piece of Rare Invention salvage dropped called "Black Blood of the Earth."
--J.D. (talk) 13:33, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  In popular culture 

message: Since this is clearly the greatest film ever made, perhaps some discussion of this monumental fact deserves mention in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.157.182.253 (talk) 18:22, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obvious fact 

message: John Carpenter received a Saturn Award Best Music nomination for this film.http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090728/awards  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.48.171.20 (talk) 03:50, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soundtrack 

message: "I don't think I've had the pleasure" - Gracie Law.
I didn't realise this quote (goat butts..) was part of Chinese fable - something called "I CHING" - 9 in the 3rd place or something. Anyway it seems to be quite appropriate - with Jack Burton acting like a goat - charging into situations, and getting entangled.
Really adds another dimension to the movie, I think.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.131.115.46 (talk) 22:39, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goat Butts Against Hedge and <span style="font-size: x-small;">It's</span> Horns Becomes Entangled 

message: The section cites a 1986 issue of Starlog, and links to the Starlog wiki page. The two page spread of the specific issue of Starlog is viewable here as of this post, but it never goes into detail about the exact mythology things are based upon. However, the page on Qin Shi Huang does not mention Lo Pan or a "shadow emperor" beyond the fact that he (Qin Shi Huang) was mentioned in the film.
I searched around the net a good bit, and the only things I could find on mentioning that Lo Pan was a 'real' historical figure as stated in the section, are people saying pretty much what's said here about him, with no citations. I also found in one place someone stating that the character name is simply a variation of Lu Ban, a Chinese saint of carpentry (Seems like a joke for the sake of John Carpenter's name), as there is a Lo Pan Temple, which is based around the Chinese saint Lu Ban.
The section seems a bit flimsy to exist in my opinion. It would be great if the section pulled specific things from the film and cited their historical references, but as it stands it seems like it just doesn't really have a leg to stand on. --Rainalor (talk) 13:42, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like  added the content here, but he has not edited since July. If you think that the section does not correspond with the reference, go ahead and remove it! :) Erik (talk | contribs) 14:01, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  References to Chinese mysticism 

message: I streamlined the excessively detailed plot summary, bringing it down under the 700 word maximum, per WP:FILMPLOT.  Despite being concise and factually accurate, it's a bit boring, and it doesn't do this great film any justice.  In the film, Jack Burton is portrayed as a comically inept braggart, while Wang is humbly competent.  If someone could insert examples of this in the plot summary, that would be very helpful.  I'll try to remember to do so, but I think I need to rewatch the film, if I'm going to insert anything that detailed or do any major rewrites. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 01:46, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot Summary 

message: Hi.  I'm just a Wikipedia fan with a couple requests which I think would improve this article.
1. Change phrase 'sex slave' in first paragraph of 'Plot' section by incorporating 'human trafficking' and adding link.  The term 'human trafficking' is a more widely accepted/understood term than 'sex slave'.  I think this would add to the article.
2. Incorporate the phrase Chinese 'black magic' into the article using Black magic.  This is one of the first phrases used in the film and after reading the Wiki article on black magic, I believe it accurately represents some of the key plot-points and storyline.
I'm sorry I didn't make these changes myself, but I'm not comfortable in changing/editing a Wiki article mostly because I don't want to register as a user.  I hope my suggestions are well received from another Wiki user willing to make the suggested changes.
Thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.118.135.30 (talk) 16:12, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some requests from a general user to improve article... 

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message: I mean, this is not wrong, but does this wording come from the film? "Millennia ago" would be better, wouldn't it?
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thread_title:  "Centuries ago"? 

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