Talk:Sakura Wars/Archive 1

message: It seems to me that the article would be best served if it was split—the anime section would certainly make a separate article of its own. DocWatson42 07:04, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: I had cleaned and removed much of the information that was previously in this entry, as I also felt that it was time to place them in separate pages.  There are still a few more sections to be added, such as reception and related media, which I am currently conducting research on.  If someone could please provide information for those sections, please do so.  The infobox should probably be cleaned up as well.  Screenshots of the different Sakura Taisen groups would also be beneficial.
As was mentioned before, I intend to place the information about the games, animes, and the live action musicals in a list of Sakura Taisen media, similar in form to the Final Fantasy Wikipedia list.  However, if someone would like to jump start on that page, his/her help is highly appreciated.
Jay 20:57, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Clean-up and Reconstruction 

message: "Kouran (Honglan) is actually the name of Hiroi Ouji's cousin in China."
This is the only mention of Hiroi Ouji in the entire article.  Who's he? Ken Arromdee 18:45, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The author of the series!  I think he's pulling the leg.  It's def. a reference to the Manchukou singer.   (Ouji also claims to have been kidnapped and brought to Siberia by Kodansha because they thought he was writing the manga too slowly.)   This article needs a lot of clean-up too, I see.  --Kunzite 02:25, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone please fix this 

message: This is the second time I've added the info on the Shochiku Revue the first time I didn't really now what I was doing with Wiki and didn't put in a source... but this time I hope it remains up, as while it's easy to remember Takarazuka in all it's shining and current glory it's easy to forget there were other Kagekidans in the 20s and that Ouji had a personal connection to one of them.
Prince Rei 18:26, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shochiku Revue 

message: While the page as a whole could probably use a major overhaul, all that live show info was added to the side box instead of the main article, so I moved it. As it stands, it's pretty bad, but the info is all there to be prettied. ♫ Melodia Chaconne ♫ 19:19, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Live shows cleanup 

message: I changed the spelling from "Leni" and "Latchette" to "Reni" and "Ratchet" respectively.  Though some may argue that the "R" in Japanese is interchangeable with "L", in the official Sakura Taisen movie artbook (where their names were written in English), the use of "R" was deliberate, given that Orihime's surname was also written as "Soletta", and Brent's was "Furlong". Jay 13:31, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name Spelling 

message: The European Star Division was merged with the Teito group because officially they belong within the Teikoku Kagekidan, according to the organizational charts in a Sakura Taisen game guide for "Sakura Taisen ~Koi Seyo Otome".  I don't have the book with me right now, but I'll add the reference in (including the page) as soon as I get it back.
The fact that the group is the predecessor to the Tokyo Flower Division than the Paris Flower Division is also present in the organizational chart.
As for the reasons why it existed, admittedly I haven't played Sakura Taisen V, so I don't know if it was stated there that the Star Division's purpose had been to fight against demons, but in the new episode made for the PS2 remake of the original Sakura Taisen game, it was shown that the Star Division was actually participating in World War I, which made Kohran spiral into depression as she believed that machines (in this case the Eisenkleid) were meant to help people, and not kill them.  For now, I left their purpose blank.
Lastly... and I've always wondered about this... where was it ever (officially) mentioned that Kaede was the deputy commander of the Star Division?
Jay 10:19, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  European Star Division merge 

message: Someone has deleted virtually all information about the anime, making this page just about the games. Also all links to the anime redirect here. CFLeon (talk) 23:07, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Was there ever any information about the anime or the other franchise on this page? I dont think so or at least I didnt found something as I browsed randomly through the history pages. I think its all there List of Sakura Wars titles and no one have yet created single pages for most of those, but only redirects to this page here instead? (That at least is the story the history pages tell for many subjects - As far as I have seen only the movie did get its own page, all OVAs are only redirects the rest have perhaps not even that (at least no links at the list page at all)  --Stan T. Lor (talk) 08:02, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Anime Information Needed

message: This separate character list is completely unsourced and overgrown (video game trivia). All major characters can be covered in the #Characters section of the main article. If the list garners enough sourcing, it can always spin out summary style. I find it hard to fathom how any part of this could be contentious. czar 05:47, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment:   . These are some reviews I found. I guess if a reception section could be made with these or more sources, I would oppose.Tintor2 (talk) 16:32, 27 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Reviews would mean that the characters might be worth mentioning in their respective media article, not that the characters are independently notable as a group. Also the IGN wiki intro page is generally considered user-submitted. I'm not sure about T.H.E.M.'s reliability. czar 04:40, 28 October 2015 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Writing about fiction#Summary style approach states that it is considered standard practice on Wikipedia to split sections such as character lists from articles on fictional works when those articles become too long.  It also makes it clear that for such split list articles, the article relies on coverage of the parent topic rather than passing the notability guidelines separately.  It does give a caveat that such articles shouldn't be about an individual character or plot item unless that item is separately notable, but for a list like this is it not required or expected that the list has coverage separate from the main topic.  No "general notability guideline rationale for keeping it separate" is needed.  You are correct that the list needs sources and the content needs to be trimmed, but as I stated, that would still leave too long a list in my opinion for the main topic. Calathan (talk) 15:44, 28 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[List of Sakura Wars characters]] 

message: *Sakura Wars TV THEM Anime
*Mania.com
*Sakura Wars OAV THEM Anime
*Sakura Wars TV Vol 1 Mania.com
*DVD Verdict 
--Malkinann (talk) 06:41, 27 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Fix link rot. – Allen4names (contributions) 14:43, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Add manga reviews. – Allen4names (contributions) 15:23, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reviews 

message: There's an interesting tidbit in the article that Sakura Wars 2 sold 500,000 copies in its first week, making it the second-best selling dating game of all time. However, there are several issues with that:
* The IGN source linked gives the 500,000 figure but no sales timeline or ranking info.
* The VGZone site 404s and (via archive.org) gives a timeline of several months, not a week.
* The source for the ranking info 404s and isn't on archive.org due to robots. I found the source Japanese article and while it looks mostly OK it's now quite old (2008) and a personal blog. Some of the numbers are from Famitsu (good!) and some are from VGChartz (less good). 
Given all this I'm going to update the references and tone down the ranking statement. --Polm23 (talk) 07:29, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sakura Wars 2 Sales Info 

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