Talk:Gothic 3

message: I vote the 'Reaction' section is either totally re-written or removed completely; the use of language seems totally wrong for an informational article.
I don't really have enough interest nor knowledge of the game to justify me doing the work itself, but the entire section just really irks me.
- My mistake, 'Reception' section.
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The Reception section was included based on the fact that one already existed for Gothic 2.  It's intended as a stub (as is the entire Gothic 3 wiki) for reception and reviews of the game when it is released.  If you could be more specific about the "use of language" being "totally wrong" perhaps we could understand just what it is about this section that "irks" you.  As it is though, without a specific set of reasons, having a section removed because it "irks" you seems to be a trivial reason at best.
- Teshia
Coming from the same angle as the original poster, in that I have no real knowledge of the game, I assume that the complaints centre around the use of non-encyclopaedic language in the 'Reception' section.  Phrases such as "a ton of awards" and saying that fans of Oblivion will "probably love" the game don't really belong in an encyclopaedia, something which is supposed to do away with opinion and convey knowledge in a clear and very definite way. -Aenimiac 21:29, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Not a terrible article, but as others have noted, the Reception section does not fit well with either the article or the nature of Wikipedia. Please consider a re-write, improving the tone of the Reception section, with an eye towards the following opinionated and unsourced statements:
"yet well worth the reboot"
"sporting a lush plotline that easily separates them from other RPGs".''
Please cite the following, and remove the opinion statement. The intent behind an article should be to put forth a citable, neutral point of view, which this does not do:
"Gothic games are also well known for being very adult oriented without crossing the line into being offensive. They have strong language and violence but it's never used with the intent to shock. Rather, it creates a gritty, realistic environment that helps the player suspend any disbelief."
"Also feeding pre-release interest is the success of The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion. While made by a separate studio, people can't seem to stop comparing the two franchises." According to who? What sources note that there is a connection, and which people are comparing the two? Also, please remove the "can't seem to stop" phrase.
"The success of Oblivion has raised questions about the possibility of a console port of Gothic 3. While it is a possibility, there are down sides to porting a title to console." Original research, or citable fact?
"Oblivion fans took issue with the console port, arguing that parts of the game were dumbed down or simplified because of a lack of programming time that was lost to the process of porting." This is probably true. Please cite a source, or at least offer some indication that this is not simply your opinion.
"While RPGs aren't always big sellers compared to other genres, Oblivion did extremely well in sales and won a ton of awards, becoming the top selling game for the XBox 360. It is unlikely that Gothic 3 will be an Oblivion "killer" but it will almost certainly act as an excellent companion to Oblivion, easily bringing comparable value and gameplay. Fans of Oblivion will probably love Gothic 3 and hopefully this will create enough buzz in the English market to garner a future release of Gothic 4." This entire section is opinion, and does not seem to fit here. If you can re-write this to indicate that noted sources in the gaming industry are comparing Oblivion and Gothic 3, then perhaps something could be salvaged?
ellF 18:53, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception Section: Tone/NPOV 

message: This site is a mess because of odd picture placement (on 1280x1024). There should also be only pictures with graphical settings maxed out and not some user's screenshots who don't come close to high-end PC specifications. --217.72.64.8 06:39, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image allignment 

message: Both criticisms are by the same person. If you googled "gothic 3" review, you should be able to find quotes from a different person. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Hypersugarchild (talk • contribs) 18:31, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message: The criticism section needs references and refinement.  While the facts are not necessarily untrue, they simply refer to personal opinions and forum posts on JoWood's forum.  I don't want to just delete it, but the last line added to 'criticism' really needs a source.
--Steppenfox 19:58, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism

message: Prologue section is the story of Gothic 1 and 2, it has nothing to do with Gothic 3.
Since Gothic 1 and 2 articles cover it, this section must be removed.Sohail Mansorry (talk) 13:35, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: So, are we going to remove it? If we leave it, we need to fix some things. There are some inconsistencies in the use of the present and the past form which don't sound very well when reading it. Shorkan (talk) 16:58, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Story 

message: As there's talk about the game's bugs, the Community  Patch could be mentioned. It's supposed to fix several bugs as well as make combat harder (latter it surely does).
It's located at : http://www.g3cpt.eu/
Should I mention it? Hoemaco (talk) 15:02, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  community patch 

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