Talk:Michael Pfleger

message: There's objection to including this information, despite it receiving broad attention on the blogosphere and some in traditional media markets . I think that it warrants inclusion and would like to get additional opinions. Trilemma (talk) 02:15, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm still hesitant to include it. This is a BLP, so I don't want to flood it with negative information unless that information is extensively documented by the mainstream media. There are only a handful of Google News hits at the moment: . Besides, he said in a statement that he misspoke: . Zagalejo^^^ 02:27, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Doesn't the fact that he had to later amend his statement suggest that it was noteworthy enough to include, to begin with? ;) Trilemma (talk) 02:28, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh. Well, it's borderline notable. I'll give you that. If you reintroduce the material with more context (ie, include Pfleger's explanation), I probably won't remove it. But my personal philosophy when watching this article has been to limit the "Criticism" section to incidents in which Pfleger was censured by the cardinal (or someone even more famous, like Obama). I don't want the article to turn into a list of every little thing Pfleger has ever done wrong. We should just stick to the important stuff, the events that will define his legacy. Zagalejo^^^ 02:40, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Well, what type of contextualizing do you have in mind? Trilemma (talk) 13:08, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Explain that it was part of a discussion on racism. Also, provide some more information on the reaction to his statement, and Pfleger's response to that reaction. Zagalejo^^^ 17:58, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

text: The article does mention the Hillary remarks. They aren't his only claim to fame, though. If you look through the refs, you'll see that he was the subject of articles in the New York Times and National Catholic Reporter long before the current controversy. Heck, the guy was mentioned in a Canadian newspaper five years ago for his work on the south side of Chicago. Zagalejo^^^ 20:51, 3 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Ok, so how about: Additionally, in a sermon discussing racism, Pfleger said, "I also believe that America is the greatest sin against God." He went on to say, "If the greatest command is to love, than the sin against love must be the greatest sin against God who IS love and who calls us to love one another. So that this greatest sin against God, racism, it's as natural as the air we breath."http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/06/rev-pfleger-ame.html Trilemma (talk) 23:10, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, that's a start. But we should also mention something about the reaction to his quote; otherwise, it's not clear why the quote would be worth mentioning in the Wikipedia article. Zagalejo^^^ 03:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Do you mean the reaction in the blogosphere, or the response from the Obama camp and the such? Trilemma (talk) 13:39, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, any reaction that was recorded in a reliable source would do. If there's a newspaper article talking about the blog comments, then you could say that the comments caused a stir in the blogosphere, or something like that. I'd be hesitant to cite a blog directly (especially a partisan blog). Zagalejo^^^ 18:00, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
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message: Rev. Pfleger is official advisor on the movie 'Chi-Raq,' and an important character is the movie played by John Cusack is based on Rev. Pfleger.  The director Spike Lee just made a big deal on Meet The Press about Rev. Pfleger's role with the movie. Jrgilb (talk) 17:19, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
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message: Twice in the article it says Pfleger was suspended after evidence showed him "practicing occultism" but no sources are cited.  I haven't been able to find any reporting about this.  The claim should be substantiated or removed. 143.229.44.177 (talk) 18:27, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
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