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Talk:Simple Simon (nursery rhyme)

message: I have always sung this song with the fifth verse and therefore assumed it was simply part of the rhyme. Here are some links to support the fifth verse. It was also included on a video from my childhood, called Nursery Rhymes 2, which introduced me to the rhyme many years ago. 
 
* http://www.famousquotes.me.uk/nursery_rhymes/simple_simon.htm
* well, not the fifth, but the one at the end
* again, not the fifth, but the closing verse
* Look at the version from the Real Mother Goose, 1916
Regards, Orphan Wiki 20:25, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Is anyone going to help address this issue at all then? I'm just curious for other people's views, that's all... Orphan Wiki 17:46, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yawn................. Orphan Wiki 14:22, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the external link seems to point to the full text of the rhyme. It seems quite long; maybe that's why it's not listed in full? Kaguya-chan (talk) 22:32, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The fifth (or more accurately  - the CLOSING) verse 

message: Someone please mention, in the popular culture section, that Lewis and Simon of the YogsCast/YogPod have a podcast format/game called Simple Simon, which also always ends in a question about the guest's favourite type of pie, because "Simple Simon wasn't a pieman, but he met one.".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:FE0:C000:1:B0E3:2A74:382D:7A7A (talk) 16:05, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  YogPod
Talk:See Saw Margery Daw

message: The version I always sang was:
See-saw Margery Daw 
Johnny shall have a new master
He shall earn but a penny a day
Because he can't work any faster.
See . Never heard a version where it says 'Jacky shall earn but a penny a day'.--94.9.21.106 (talk) 11:20, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The version I knew 

message: "In addition to being referred to as ‘sods’ (short for ‘Sodomite’), homosexuals were also known in vulgar slang as ‘margeries’ and ‘poofs’, while any homosexual act was referred to as ‘backgammon’, which must have proved confusing for those pub-goers who anticipated nothing more exciting than a board game. "  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.115.204.102 (talk) 13:08, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sexual History of LONDON by Arnold Catharine
Talk:Rain Rain Go Away

message: I was listening to Nine Inch Nails album from 1989 Pretty Hate Machine and was struck that the outro to "Down in It" is just repeating "rain rain go away / come again some other day". I wouldn't want to create a needlessly trivial reference section but was wondering if there are many other notable examples of the nursery rhyme finding its way into modern works? The essay I linked does say "passing mentions of the subject in books, television or film dialogue, or song lyrics should be included only when that mention's significance is itself demonstrated with secondary sources." (and I do not know of such sources for the passing mention in "Down in It"). I did edit the "Down In It" article to link to this one, though.
- Phorque (talk) 13:39, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it worth mentioning reference in modern creative works?
Talk:Old Mother Hubbard

message: This brings a tear to my eye.
--Badmuthahubbard 11:19, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nob Cheese

message: On a speculative note ... Moth-ear Hob Bard or Mother Hop-Beard / Beered might be the origin of sweet old ma Hubbard.  If so, the former makes reference to both a devil and something more than your usual poetaster.  Moth is also the old Canaanite deified form of Death.  Moth-Ears (more usually referring to them having been chewed about - here, perhaps, by the dog) might refer to ears of grain - as used in brewing.  The Typhonian beast, symbol of the Egyptian Seth (Satan) had such ears.  A Hop-Beard would seem to be beer-froth on the chin - though it might refer to hops as a dubious modesty shield for a Bacchante.  Did Mother Hubbard run a sly-grog shop?  Was the dog a government agent being deceived on this issue with an empty store?  210.50.143.21 (talk) 03:34, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who is Mother Hubbard? 

message: I can't remember where, but I was taught in school that this was a reference to Elizabeth trying to arrange honours for Sir Walter Raleigh, but she had none to bestow (the cupboard was bare).98.248.37.60 (talk) 19:14, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elizabeth and Sir Walter Raliegh 

message: With reference to the suggestion that the rhyme was published before 1804:
I have a very ragged and torn booklet from 1894 called Old Mother Hubbard of 1793...Old Mother Hubbard of Today Dean & Son (1893)claiming to be a centenary issue in which direct reference is made, with illustrations, to an earlier version of Old Mother Hubbard dated 1793. This would appear to predate the version in the print and text in this Old Mother Hubbard Wikipedia entry. 
However I have now found reference to  'Children's Books of Yesterday', Cambridge University Press, edited by Percy H Muir, a catalogue of an Exhibition in 1946 which lists my booklet at entry 285 as "A gross piece of falsification. The dates in the facsimile of the original edition have been altered to make it appear that this edition is the centenary one. No. 281 clearly shows that the rhyme was not written until 1804." 146.199.172.189 (talk) 14:42, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  When Was Old Mother Hubbard First Published 

message: Just to note:
:
May be worth a brief link or mention? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:48, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: That kite was flown in 2008 (above) and got blown into the long grass. It's not essentially relevant to the nursery rhyme, it's just a trivia magnet. Sweetpool50 (talk) 11:15, 11 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Well that was 11 years ago. Perhaps the long grass needs a bit of trimming by now. And this looks like more of a solid citation. Perhaps the comedian deserves more investigation and a mention also? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:16, 21 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[Fire (The Jimi Hendrix Experience song)|Fire]]"
Talk:Marbled murrelet

message: — Assignment last updated by Lillet2 (talk) 00:20, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Conservation Genetics

message: Hello friends,
I made some edits to this page for my Conservation Genetics class. The edits I made were:
- Deleted a sentence and added Auk family members to the introduction
- Added photos to the Description and Winter Habitat sections
- Fixed a broken link to a wiki page
- Changed the "Status and relation to Humans" section title to "Status and Conservation"
- Added status and conservation info
- Added "See also" section with links to other wiki pages
Please feel free to make any corrections I may have missed, including formatting issues. 
Lillet2 (talk) 22:32, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits to this page
Talk:Lucy Locket

message: The current source (at the bottom of the page) for the factual information here says:
All Info About Nursery Rhymes was started by me, Sue, in 2001. It became amazingly successful and popular, but after a disastrous foray into a fledgling content management system, it lost Google rankings and has taken time to recover.
It’s now been completely redesigned using WordPress and is beginning to recover its position.
This is only a hobby site though, I don’t profess to be an expert, I simply do it for fun and I hope you will enjoy it in the spirit it was written.
And the section on that site on this rhyme gives the information in this article -- with no backing for the claims.
----  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.197.11.28 (talk) 23:47, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [Untitled]

message: I'm familiar with both "Lucy Locket" and "Yankee Doodle", and while they share a similar chord structure, the version of "Lucy Locket" I know is quite different to "Yankee Doodle". Where is it that they share the same tune? Reynardo (talk) 13:07, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tune used in "Lucy Locket"
Talk:Little Miss Muffet

message: The header pretty much says it all. Is this fine? Not fine? InedibleHulk (talk) 03:38, 29 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  The lyrics in the Lyrics section aren't the lyrics in the infobox photo 

message: The article says "Along Came a Spider" takes it's name from a crucial line in the nursery rhyme. But that line does not appear anywhere else on the page. I'm confused. Is that a line in the rhyme or not? 172.115.99.168 (talk) 18:58, 13 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Along came a spider
Talk:Little Boy Blue

message: Frankly, anything this site claims should just be disbelieved on general principle, as it tries to claim all sorts of spurious, disproven nonsense as if it were factual. It should not count as a reliable, encyclopedic source and should not be linked to. 172.144.210.91 21:20, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: rhymes.org.uk

message: Little boy blue (blew)
All over his shoe.
Peter1968 09:05, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another off-colour version... 

message: Song 1937 starting "Big boy blue, blow your horn...", made famous by Ella Fitzgerald & the Mills Brothers. --88.67.127.78 (talk) 00:07, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further references in popular culture
Talk:Jack Sprat

message: There is a discussion going on over at Talk:Jack Spratt about whether or not the Jack Spratt article should be moved to Jack Spratt (fictional detective), with Jack Spratt redone as a disambiguation page or a redirect to this article.
In addition to readers of this page perhaps having an opinion on the matter, the discussion itself has generated interesting material (with sources and references) that should be incorporated into this article. Choor monster (talk) 12:49, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relevant Discussion on [[Talk:Jack Spratt]] 

message: I trimmed some "fat" from the popular culture section.  We should not be putting in mini-plot summaries, but just enough information to identify the Jack Sprat connection.  If a character has several Sprat-like aspects, we mention them too.  I've left in the Nurse Sprat bits, although I have been unable to find any source for this popular characterization.
And there's no need to explain puns like "Jack Splat." Choor monster (talk) 12:34, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Unsourced trivia, with no clear relevance to the topic is no needed.--SabreBD (talk) 12:49, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: All of the trivia that I removed is sourceable.  In fact, some of it was here with links, like Fabletown. It just had no relevance to this article.  And while I have no sources for Mrs. Sprat aka Joan Cole being a nurse, there's no harm in mentioning there are two woman characters named Sprat who are obese nurses.  Choor monster (talk) 13:26, 12 June 2014 (UTC)

text: I should mention I deliberately left in the part of the Fables trivia that describes Mrs. Sprat's change from the character of the rhyme to something else.  That seems relevant as a modern commentary on the rhyme's Mrs. Sprat.  Her further flip-flop alliances (she's back to being evil), name change, and so on, just seems to be Fables plotting. Choor monster (talk) 13:42, 12 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fat trimming 

message: Is there any evidence that the version given is the most common one today?  (I learned "betwixt'.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.34.16.206 (talk) 04:46, 22 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: version

message: How is that relevant?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.64.189.57 (talk) 17:56, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Charles was a notably short man"
Talk:Jack Be Nimble

message: The Reference to The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion should be removed. The character Jakben refers to the fictional character of victorian lore, Springheel Jack.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.87.205.104 (talk) 21:58, 30 November 2011 (UTC)

message: There's a famous theme involving this song. Everytime Jack jumps over the candle, it grows higher. This goes one until Jack scorches his trousers. 180.194.251.219 (talk) 13:14, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous theme
Talk:It's Raining, It's Pouring

message: ..."He bumped his head at the foot of the bed"...
This is how I was taught it as a child. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.8.119.183 (talk) 23:45, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, be bold and update the article! Remember to cite your contributions. =) Nidht (talk) 13:57, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another variation 

message: :It's raining, it's pouring
:The old man is snoring
:He bumped his head; now he's dead
:And won't get up in the morning  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.98.201.240 (talk) 14:51, 28 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Fourth "macabre" variation

message: At the end of the song "It's Raining Again" by Supertramp, a children's chorus sings a variant:
:It's raining, it's pouring
:The old man is snoring
:He went to bed and bumped his head
:And couldn't get up in the morning
source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSlb8yT_Wc0
time index: 3:45 till 4:01 --FeanorStar7 00:08, 27 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Another variation

message: It's raining, it's pouring,
the old men are snoring.
They banged their head, 
and went to bed,
and wouldn't get up in the morning.
From https://www.quotev.com/story/4263282/Ruining-your-childhood/24
98.197.25.83 (talk) 20:37, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Variation with plausible historical context 

message: Greisedieck Western Brewery Co. copyrighted a book titled "It's Raining! It's Pouring!" in Belleview, Illinois. on December 7, 1938. This was one year before the song was entered into the Library of Congress by Herbert Halpert. The origins of this song are kind of shrouded in mystery. It would be great if someone could dig deeper and expand the article. --Elephanthunter (talk) 18:33, 24 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drinking song? 1938 book published by Greisedieck Western Brewery by the same name
Talk:Georgie Porgie

message: This was on the page, it wasn't referenced, so I removed it:
:Georgie Porgie, Puddin' and Pie,
:Kissed the girls and made them cry,
:When the boys came out to play
:He kissed them too, cos he's queer that way!
--Sbrools (talk . contribs) 16:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the original rhyme is queer enough. Georgie Porgie is not really suitable for kids! 93.219.161.131 (talk) 15:03, 4 December 2012 (UTC)

text: And let's not forget Old Mother Hubbard. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:14, 23 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: According to The Oxford Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes, the rhyme was first recited as:
Rowley Powley, pudding and pie,
Kissed the girls and made them cry;
When the girls begin to cry,
Rowley Powley runs away.
ntennis 03:37, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin 

message: Reggae artist Eek-a-Mouse made a song named Georgie Porgie; should it be mentioned here? --oKtosiTe talk 20:28, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eek-a-Mouse 

message: Changing "most common lyrics" to the ADC version, as more people know that than the "original" one quoted.  Please do not revert; this is a legitimate edit.  Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.169.1.147 (talk) 05:38, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Andrew Dice Clay 

message: I reinserted my reference to the Toto song which had been deleted by Sweetpool50 with a strange appeal to "original research". Since I am merely stating a fact that is to be found in a Wikipedia article that I am linking to, there is no way I could or should be accused of original research, and certainly not have my content deleted without prior notice. Nikolaj1905 (talk) 09:39, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The editor is new and has no idea about proper sourcing. Wikipedia cannot be cited as a source per WP:CIRCULAR. Sweetpool50 (talk) 12:51, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't use ad hominem arguments about me being new. (Even if I were new, you should go by WP:ENCOURAGE and not simply revert my edit). The page that I linked to is properly sourced, so there is no circularity there. Anyway, even if you were right about my edit not being properly sourced, the proper procedure is to add a "Citation needed"-template, not to simply revert the edit. This is made fairly clear in WP:NOCITE. Nikolaj1905 (talk) 08:00, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toto song
Talk:This Is Halloween

message: I know it's a song about Halloween, but this song never fails to creep me out...was it written escpecially to make people shudder? Who am I kidding, of course it was. Good movie, weird song. 66.206.233.143 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 17:53, 30 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creepiest song I've ever heard in my lifetime...and I've heard Lady Gaga
Talk:On Top of Spaghetti

message: I went ahead and reverted this page to the pre-variants section. The variants do not seem related at all, and seem more gore-y than is necessary and really aren't related, except for the tune (which, as I recall, this tune is actually originated from On Top of Old Smokey, so this isn't the logical place for them anyway). As such, those edits looked more like vandalism than anything else. P3net 03:20, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert 

message: I have removed the lyrics as per WP:COPYVIO. I have no indication that the lyrics are public domain, and seeing as how the song was published in 1963, I suspect that the lyrics are not public domain. Dissolve 16:15, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lyrics

message: The infobox says "Lyricist(s): Sharon Ruth, Philip Anders", but of those only Sharon Ruth is listed in the article itself. The article does mention that Tom Glazer is given lyricist credit on his rendition, implying but not establishing that he claimed lyricist credits, so should he also be listed as possible (but questionable) lyricist in the infobox? GCL (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 20:16, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Credits
Talk:United States v. Russell

message: I'm not sure how to properly disambiguate SCOTUS cases. I've found another US v. Russell which appears to not have an article, but is mistakenly linked from List of United States Supreme Court cases, volume 255. I didn't check if this is also mistakenly linked elsewhere. I don't think an article necessarily need creation for this, simply changing mistaken links to a better redlink. (The other US v. Russell, (255 U.S. 138) is on Wikisource.) Thanks, djr13 (talk) 04:31, 2 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please disambiguate
Talk:Forever Young (Care Bears song)

message: Added a link to a copy of the sequence (video) and edited the description.  The rainbow wasn't 'forming', it was formed.  The edit reflects this correction.
LucianSolaris 21:35, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great find with the video!  Question: do you think it's Harmony Bear in the boat, or Share Bear?  You can't see the bear's symbol in that scene, and that bear is really purple-looking, and if not mistaken, Harmony Bear was blue in this film.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 00:31, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  I ripped and uploaded it to google video when I found out there weren't any copies online.  I believe the evidence best supports her being harmony as harmony was the deep purple and it was a female singing the song (it sounds like a care bear would be singing it).  Harmony is the song bear of the family, thus it may be safe to assume she is Harmony.  LucianSolaris 17:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm still not convinced.  Unless we can find something that actually substantiates it as Harmony more than a visual inspection of the footage, since the bear's symbol is not visible, we need to back off from naming the bear.  I've changed the article to reflect this.  SchuminWeb (Talk) 01:55, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions and Corrections
Talk:The Cat Came Back

message: Why don't we have a copy on Wikisource? If it really was written in 1893, then it should be long out of copyright, no? -- Gwern  (contribs) 20:01, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  This is a very old song and like most old folk songs people make up new verses all the time to update them. I can sing you about 10 other verses I learned in Girl Scouts. We were even encouraged to make up our own verses99.53.168.200 (talk) 03:26, 24 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikisource 

message: That whole article is just confusing. The first paragraph is alright, but everying after that... Get some damn structure in there. --91.97.77.65 (talk) 16:40, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  General 

message: I know this song from growing up in Canada but I don't know anyone in Europe who is familiar with it. The article says "It is also a popular children's song." This statement probably could do with qualification.--TimSC (talk) 01:13, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Popularity
Talk:Little Tommy Tucker

message: Shouldn´t the lyrics be on Wikisource instead?? Pernambuco 13:33, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: While Peter and Iona Opie do claim that the earliest version of this rhyme in Tommy Thumb's Pretty Song Book (c. 1744) recorded only the first four lines, the British Library copy (one of only two extant) clearly shows all eight lines on pp. 10 and 11. I can't find a secondary source that clearly states this. The Baring-Goulds on p. 28 of The Annotated Mother Goose give all eight lines as they appear in Tommy Thumb's Pretty Song Book, but do not explicitly state that that is their source. (Their ordinary practice is to state that lines come from an alternate source if that is the case, and they don't here, but that is inferential rather than explicit.) sbh (talk) 18:30, 17 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  First appearance in Tommy Thumb's Pretty Song Book
Talk:Queen of Hearts (Hank DeVito song)

message: Shouldn't Dave Edmunds have a bigger write up as part of this article as his version was a big hit in the UK?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.168.220 (talk) 12:36, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:   Dave Edmunds
Talk:Boxcutter

message: I'm going to tag this article for notability checking, as the article has been a stub for quite some time now, and there are no references to verifiable sources indicating the artist's qualifications for an article under WP:MUSIC. Could the authors get some sources into it soon, please? Because I couldn't find much of anything in a Google search; the authors might be able to turn up some good verifiable sources if they know more about him. Tony Fox (arf!) 06:21, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability
Talk:Nuts in May (rhyme)

message: 'Nuts in May' is sung to the tune of 'Here We Go Round The Mulberry Bush'
In Australia (southern hemisphere), we do pick nuts in May because it is Autumn here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by ChalkNTalk (talk • contribs) 02:05, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [Untitled]

message: I have always believed it to be knots derived from daisy knots which would make sense givern the month. Daisy knots are rings or chains of open daisy flowers on their stems threaded through each other to form a ring or chain. Often made by boys to adorn favoured girls. See also letters to The Times, today's date.Rjceng (talk) 09:41, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That interpretation is in the article.--SabreBD (talk) 10:13, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nuts or knots