Talk:Henman Hill

message: I added tags to this article as the focus seemed to be on speculation as to whether it would be 're-nicknamed'. However on reflection, shouldn't this article be called Aorangi Terrace, with redirects from Henman Hill (and elsewhere if appropriate) and notes on the various nicknames by which it is known? This could avoid speculative entries about which nickname it may or may not acquire in the future.--Stevouk (talk) 09:00, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the relevant convention here is WP:COMMONNAME. It's called Henman Hill more often than Aorangi Terrace (a name I only just found out when I looked at this page) so the page probably should stay here unless it actually does acquire a new nickname or become commonly known by the real name. MorganaFiolett (talk) 14:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've changed the opening to match the Statue of Liberty page. --Philip Stevens (talk) 14:46, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I've never heard of "Aorangi Terrace", am watching a Murray match while looking for the Wikipedia article on Henman Hill... Why was it moved without concensus? - JVG (talk) 18:58, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Correct Title?

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Strong Support This page was moved without consensus. It is never referred to as Aorangi Terrace. Even now Henman has retired, the BBC and other call it Henman Hill! The All England Club also refer to it as Henman Hill  All England Club  Btline (talk) 23:21, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment This is untrue. It has been referred to as Henman Hill throughout this year's tournament, despite Henman not playing. Although the name does change occasionally, it comes back to Henman Hill each time. Btline (talk) 23:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment 2 The reason the "Big Ben" move failed, is because "Big Ben" is not the name of the Clock, but the bell. In this case, Henman Hill is a correct name. It is therefore completely unconnected with this proposed move and should not be considered in the decision. Btline (talk) 22:25, 15 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Comment However, when Murray was not playing, the BBC reverted to Henman Hill, not Aorangi Terrace. Btline (talk) 23:00, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: This page should be moved to Henman Hill. What is Aorangi Terrace by comparison? Virtually no English people know what this is, and almost all know what Henman Hill is. Murray Mount hasn't and probably won't stick, and its usage has fallen since last year. Any g-search shows c. 30 times usage for HH as AT. Cheers, Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 16:15, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Move

message: In the discussion above, there seems to be a misconception about how requested moves should be treated when they are filed in order to reverse a recent move.  I will quote the relevant passage from Wikipedia:Moving_guidelines_for_administrators#Determining_consensus: However, sometimes a requested move is filed in response to a recent move from a long existing name that cannot be undone without administrative help. If the closing administrator feels that no consensus has been reached, they may move the article back to the most recent stable name. This language was arrived at after extended discussion on WT:Requested moves.  Essentially what it means is: once the move request has been filed, don't further move the page. Wait for the move discussion to be closed.  If there is no consensus to keep it at the page, then it will be returned to its prior title; moving the page while the request is "live" only confuses things.  Even if you feel the original move was unjustified, don't worry: the discussion will be evaluated in the same way as it would have been if the request had been filed before any moves had occurred: a consensus would be required to keep it at the new name, and a "no consensus" judgment would result in the recent page move being reverted. I hope this clarifies things. Cheers, --Aervanath (talk) 18:04, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks ... didn't know about that passage. :) Deacon of Pndapetzim (Talk) 00:46, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's not exactly a well-publicized guideline. It's pretty much only linked to from WP:RM itself.--Aervanath (talk) 17:27, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  A comment on the requested move process