Talk:History of artificial intelligence

message: I see there was a lot of discussion on this talk page about whether to preserve 'Neats vs Scruffies' or remove it. 
The latest version Russell & Norvig's, AI: A Modern Approach differs from the second edition cited earlier by changing the last sentence of the footnote on P.25 of the 2nd edition and P. 24 of the 4th edition from "Whether that stability will be disrupted by a new scruffy idea is another question" to --now-- "The present emphasis on deep learning may represent a resurgence of the scruffies."
I think the new Russell & Norvig characterization there as and historical breakdown better describes that section, so I am changing the name to more closely match what they have. I'm also trying minimize disruption and flow of the article. I had planned on just dropping the part of the sentence "...and the victory of the neats" in Russell & Norvig (2003) describe this as nothing less than a "revolution" and "the victory of the neats". 
But since I can see why others care about that the 'neats vs scruffies' view and possible future application, I am adding:
They had argued in their 2002 textbook that this increased rigor could be viewed plausibly as a "victory of the neats," but subsequently qualified that by saying, in their 2020 AI textbook, that "The present emphasis on deep learning may represent a resurgence of the scruffies." Veritas Aeterna (talk) 23:30, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This is correct. FYI, The articles neats and scruffies and artificial intelligence have also been updated to reflect Russell and Norvig's (2021) clarification. I think I'm going to just delete this discussion from this article for brevity, because the section doesn't need to talk about neats & scruffies at all.  ---- CharlesTGillingham (talk) 22:48, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Qualifying the Victory of the Neats: Updating a Section Name from the "Victory of the Neats" to "Probabilistic Reasoning and Greater Rigor" and Updating the Text 

message: Which is what we called it. Now, they're using Knowledge-based Engineering. But, it represents that each boom/(supposed) bust cycle left something of value. Knowledge-based_engineering supported one large program as it met demands of producing a new aircraft through all of the required phases. The results were so impressive that subsequent programs adapted the method into their processes as it evolved which is to be expected with computational systems. From a Lisp machine to Unix and then to the PC (all the time, multi-platformed with huge data requirements), we can trace the evolution to a domain which still exists. We need to pull together documentation about this phenomenal reality. ... 
This motivated by looking at papers from a Kansas State University Conference Software-based Software Development in October of 1986 (30 years after Darmouth) that had representatives from every effort extant at the time including those who brought about KBE (see Talk page of ICAD (software) (Real example needed) for more details). I have been collecting examples of my project, Multiple Surface Join and Offset (MSJO), part of whose focus was supporting the use of free-form NURBS with the solid modeling of the time. 
Anecdote? One program was to use only computational modeling but within the known constraints of the engineering processes involved. This was a huge step taken jointly with CAD/CAD/CAM systems. Computing performed. Paper modes diminished drastically. One other consequence? Known modes potentially became less stable. That is a continual concern as we improve. 
One thing to discuss? What remnants carried forward through all of the summer/winter cycles? 1st. Lisp. User interfaces. 2nd. ?, Third, KBE and more. 
And, what will be the one(s) from the current event? jmswtlk (talk) 15:01, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what you mean. Is there something we should change or add? ---- CharlesTGillingham (talk) 22:36, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Knowledge Base Engineering 

message: — Assignment last updated by NoemieCY (talk) 10:18, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - SU23 - Sect 200 - Thu

message: I'm going to find a place for this elsewhere in Wikipedia. It's undue weight in this article. ---- CharlesTGillingham (talk) 23:38, 29 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Temporarily parking some stuff here 

message: Don't think this section was essential to the article, and I'm getting ready to add a bunch of material about 21st century. ---- CharlesTGillingham (talk) 05:15, 30 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cutting a section for brevity 

message: Under History of artificial intelligence#Milestones and Moore's law, we can find the following:
> The event was broadcast live over the internet and received over 74 million hits.
I think this is incorrect on two counts, at least according to the source cited, http://www.research.ibm.com/deepblue/meet/html/d.3.shtml I think the event was broadcast over television rather than the Internet. The source also claims that "about 500 people" watched the event live on television in a basement theater, while it adds that 
> The media attention given to Deep Blue resulted in more than three billion impressions around the world.
I am not sure how this translates into the number of viewers, but it is certainly distinct from the number given in the article. Fato39 (talk) 18:12, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. ---- CharlesTGillingham (talk) 23:59, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deep Blue and Garry Kasparov match 

message: Paper
Sst 2402:8100:2703:7279:DDDB:1A80:EC74:7A03 (talk) 12:13, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Class9 shree JK public school test paper say 2023  

message: — Assignment last updated by Thecanyon (talk) 05:33, 12 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Technology and Culture

message: Shouldn't E. T. A. Hoffman's stories ( The Sandman (1816) and Automata (1814)  ) be mentioned? Kdammers (talk) 21:08, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  19th century fiction 

message: Why is it no relevant?
By 2023, generative artificial intelligence has already surpassed human intelligence in some specific areas such as the search for new proteins and strategy games. 176.200.82.175 (talk) 08:33, 8 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this belongs in the article progress in artificial intelligence. This article is very long and we can only cover the most notable developments. ---- CharlesTGillingham (talk) 02:29, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  AI has surpassed human intelligence in some specific fields 

message: — Assignment last updated by Lotsobear555 (talk) 15:38, 18 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - FA23 - Sect 202 - Thu

message: modern use of AI 103.100.7.208 (talk) 14:39, 11 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Computer 

message: Engineering 103.253.19.46 (talk) 06:05, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mathematics science class nine  

message: Engineering 103.253.19.46 (talk) 06:10, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Math class nine science