Talk:Tracy McGrady

message: Hey doesnt Kobe have a lazy eye too. Sure looks like he does. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.185.76.55 (talk • contribs) 16:50, January 28, 2006
:Does he have a medical condition that causes this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.2.137.67  (talk • contribs) 13:18, January 31, 2006
::He always looks drowsy, but I wouldn't say he was cross eyed. Basketball110 23:24, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  crossed eye 

message: I've seen different weight numbers for T-Mac from 210-234, does anyone know for sure?
Has there been an updated weigh-in? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omershahab  (talk • contribs) 12:13, July 1, 2006 
:The last official weigh in listing is 223, however he recently said in an interview with The Houston Chronicle that he now weighs 235. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.134.225.200 (talk • contribs) 00:41, July 31, 2006
::The 07-08 Topps basketball card of T-Mac says 210. NBA.com says 223. Basketball110 (talk) 05:16, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's McGrady's Real Weight? 

message: tracy mcgrady and vince carter are NOT second cousins, but THIRD cousins.  In order to be SECOND cousins, they have to have the same great grandmother.  Since their grandmothers are cousins, it means that they have the same great-great grandparents.  That makes them THIRD cousins —Preceding unsigned comment added by  207.233.77.99 (talk • contribs) 20:02, February 12, 2007
:Thanks for clearing this up, I was wondering about the exact relationship. I just went with second cousin since I saw it somewhere. However, a lot of times on TV and such when T-Mac is playin Carter the commentators just say "cousins" so a lot of people think they are first cousins. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Omershahab (talk • contribs) 17:02, March 11, 2007 (UTC)
::it seems some moron put SECOND COUSIN again....morons these days —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.8.211.10 (talk • contribs) 03:44, April 5, 2007
:::well it seems that the moron struck again, as "second cousins" is back on the page. a genealogical tree would be usefull to clear things up. M du P —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.11.34.57  (talk • contribs) 11:23, May 1, 2007
::::A family tree would be useful. Does anyone know how to make one? And does anyone have the names of their mothers and grandmothers? Basketball110 (talk) 20:08, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship to Vince Carter 

message: I made the page so nice with the allstars records, partnership with addida and NBA live 07 Cover with pictures now they say i copy paste. PLZ SOMEBODY MAKE THIS PAGE BETTER WITH THE INFO I MENTIONED —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.95.35.189 (talk • contribs) 15:26, February 19, 2007
:the info this guy added is quite biased and really not that important --The Asian Elton John 04:22, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Plz People

message: I'm thinking that there definitely needs to be more coherence in general for this page. It's gotten kind of sloppy. People should be thinking about major revisions here. YanShen 07:58, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page needs to be restructured/rewritten 

message: This picture would be cool to put in the section about his Houston career considering him and yao are considered a very good duo.
http://photos.friendster.com/photos/62/67/27447626/441925692l.jpg —The preceding unsigned comment was added by RandyRhoadsRonnieDio (talk • contribs).
: A picture of McGrady and Yao sounds nice to me, but unfortunately the image to which you’re linking would be a copyvio. —LOL 01:32, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cool picture 

message: This used to be a good page and now osmone deleted the trivia section and added this dumb adidas section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.59.110  (talk • contribs) 22:19, April 17, 2007
:Why is the inclusion of the trivia section any good? Chensiyuan 04:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Really bad page 

message: Worth adding anything on the page about what McGrady did for the sniper victim/fan? 220.253.161.169 14:15, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iran Brown 

message: It says the same thing in "A New Start" as it does in "NBA Career" under "Toronto Raptors". If someone has information for his time as a Raptor, please add it. What about the Magic? Basketball110 (talk) 05:09, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Same thing over and over again 

message: Just some style suggestions I had considering the layout of the article to make it easier to read.
*Highschool Career: merge?
:*I'm thinking that merging Highschool career and early career would be a good idea, as they're both technically the same thing and don't really require their own sections when they could be in one.
*Career statistics, NBA career: tables?
:*Putting these in tables would make them much more accessible, as right now they're a bit impenetrable due to their block-of-text-like nature.
*Miscellaneous facts: remove/integrate?
:*Trivia sections like this are generally discouraged by guidelines. While they may be interesting, they don't really offer much pertinent information. I'd suggest trying to integrate them into the article without breaking up the flow; if that isn't possible, then removing them is a good idea. 
That's all I can think of for now. I'll try to help out on what I can. Master of Puppets Care to share? 19:32, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some suggestions 

message: The Pre-NBA section talks about his time in Orlando WITH the NBA. Basketball110 (talk) 16:03, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pre-NBA 

message: Is it worth noting that he lost 19 games in a row in Orlando and has won 22 in a row in Houston?
That's an interesting and unusual stat.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 153.91.65.56 (talk) 22:07, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Streaks... 

message: During season 3 of Prison Break an inmate named Luis Gallego has a nickname of McGrady because he is fascinated by this player.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Weatherbed (talk • contribs) 20:42, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Prison Break

message: The point is whether or not you agree with the movement, it is well documented with primary sources, and it is noteworthy. I have listed the sources below, please list your comments in the discussion page before you make further edits.
Sources:
1. NBA(dot)com
http://www.nba(dot)com/2009/news/12/10/allstar.vote.update.1/
"In the Western Conference, Bryant, a three-time All-Star MVP, is followed at guard by the Houston Rockets' Tracy McGrady (281,545)."
2. INSIDEHOOPS(dot)COM
http://www.insidehoops(dot)com/all-star-voting-results.shtml
"He currently has the second highest votes of any West guard and if the voting ended today he'd be starting alongside Bryant."
3. FANHOUSE(dot)COM
http://nba.fanhouse(dot)com/2009/12/10/tracy-mcgrady-biggest-surprise-among-early-all-star-returns/
"In first balloting returns announced Thursday, McGrady, who wants to play but hasn't yet logged a second this season while recovering from knee surgery, is amazingly second in the West at guard behind the Lakers' Kobe Bryant. He's in line to start ahead of third-place Steve Nash, 35, who is merely defying age while averaging 17.5 points and a league-high 11.0 assists and leading Phoenix to a surprising 15-7 mark."
4. FANTASYSP and ESPN(dot)COM
http://www.fantasysp(dot)com/news/nba/209852/kobe_bryant_leads_all_star_voting;_injured_tracy_mcgrady_on_pace_to_start
"Kobe Bryant leads All-Star voting; injured Tracy McGrady on pace to start"
5. EXAMINER(dot)COM
http://www.examiner(dot)com/a-2365418~McGrady_on_pace_to_start_in_NBA_All_Star_game.html
"McGrady is nearing a return from microfracture knee surgery, but leads Steve Nash by more than 9,000 votes for the West's second guard spot."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tomjc (talk • contribs) 21:25, 10 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Couple of things. Yes, the results are verifiable by reliable sources, but as far as I can tell, the T-Mac movement is not mentioned. Also Wikipedia is WP:NOT a news service and interim results are meaningless in the whole scheme of things. So we should either wait until the voting is finished or legit media outlets discuss the T-Mac-for-All-Star movement, it's not notable enough to warrant a mention here. --Mosmof (talk) 02:05, 11 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Tracy Mcgrady 2010 NBA All-Star Game Voting Results

message: This section from the end of the "Houston Rockets" section seems like original research to me.  There are qualitative statements about the kind or quality of player that he is and no citations of any kind.  Does this belong?
"Throughout his NBA career, McGrady has always had unique playmaking abilities and court vision for a player of his size (6-8). Some have even compared his skillset to that of Scottie Pippen who had the unique ability to run the offense from the SF position. McGrady also has good size allowing him to guard SG's, SF's, and PF's and to grab rebounds. However, critics have pointed out his inconsistent FG shooting and FT shooting. Another big criticism has been his inability to stay healthy and play for 82 games in a season, and his tendency to fall short in the playoffs. Despite the Rockets advancing in the playoffs in 2009, McGrady was on the injured list adding more fuel to the fire."
Danweasel (talk) 22:59, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That excerpt looks very much like original research.  I've removed it; thanks for pointing it out. —LOL T/C 04:40, 12 February 2010 (UTC)

text: Your suggested addition appears to be a substantial copyright violation of . Please rewrite it in your own words. Moreover, you also need to provide where you wish this text inserted into the article. Intelligentsium 04:04, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Original Reasearch?

message: Tracy Mcgrady isn't a free agent anymore, he just got signed by the Detroit Pistons for one year.
This is an article on NBA.com check it out
Reydawgg (talk) 03:08, 12 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The deal is not official yet, and the terms are still being worked out. See the ESPN story. A Sports Illustrated story (from the AP) agrees with this. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:33, 12 August 2010 (UTC)

text: Right. Tracy doesn't know what "official" means. They've agreed to a deal, but haven't signed it yet. Once he passes his physical and the contract is signed and submitted to the league office, then he's officially a Piston. --Mosmof (talk) 17:53, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Reydawgg, 12 August 2010 

message: I was wondering if a subtopic on Tracy McGrady's time in detroit including current position battles or training camp would work on this wiki page?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.82.19.215 (talk) 18:15, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think anything that happens before the regular season is pretty inconsequential on its own and would be too much WP:RECENTism. --Mosmof (talk) 18:51, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Player Position Battles/Training camp in Detroit? 

message: That section is very short and vague. I feel it could be improved greatly. It just gives his stats for the entire season which makes it look like he had a bad year when actually his season was quite positive. I think it should be mentioned that the first half of the season was dedicated to getting him in basketball shape after 2 years off from injury and that he played well the second half. I believe he averaged close to 15 points and 5 assists the second half of the season. I think it should also be mentioned that he was the team's starting point guard the second half of the season. I just feel the section could be a bit more positive even without being biased. You may be asking, "Why don't you do it yourself?". Well I literally JUST signed up for Wikipedia to say this so someone with experience should probably do it. Farewell and thanks for listening Chabowker (talk) 06:16, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Wikipedia articles are entirely written by volunteers, who may not have time or interest to improve articles like this one. You had a good point that the section should be improved like many other articles. So, I strongly suggest you help improving it, being new shouldn't not a problem at all.—Chris!c/t 21:34, 2 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  2010/2011 season should be improved. 

message: The highest ppg of any NBA player ever is 30.2 by Michael Jordan. According to this article, Mcgrady has had multiple seasons above this, with one season at 37.8.  This is WAY WRONG! Someone should fix it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.169.218.134 (talk) 01:46, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: --Mosmof (talk) 02:08, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Points Per Game is WRONG 

message: There are some pretty big breaks from neutral language in this article. I mean... should the adjective "stellar" probably shouldn't make an appearance in any article not related to astronomy or Incubus. I'm dropping that one out but this article could really use a once-over to root out the PR speak.Scardinoz (talk) 15:20, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Article should reflect the perception among most analysts that outside of injuries, he's one of the all-time greats. However, agreed that words like 'stellar' should not be present to depict that. MavsFan28 (talk) 17:41, 21 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Objective much? 

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