Talk:Curtain Theatre

message: Re Singing Badger's objection - I DID provide a reference for my info on the Curtain Theatre. It is Schoenbaum's book mentioned at the bottom under 'References'...... Colin4C 12:36, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: The Wikipedia entry on the Globe Theatre identifies it, not the Curtain, as the "wooden O" of the Prologue to Henry V. It would be good to make the two entries consistent.Ugajin 21:46, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that's an interesting pamphlet, Kb, especially the plan of the Theatre precincts. However, the building in the view which is labelled as 'The Curtain' in the pamphlet, which you have added to the article, is possibly more likely to be 'the Theatre'. Wood reproduces the whole panorama of the 'View of the City of London from the North' in his book 'In Search of Shakespeare' (pages 112-115), in which you can distinctly see a flag to the right of the theatre - peeping up above the roofs of the intervening houses. Considering the location from which the Panorama was drawn, this flag is probably the one on top of the Curtain, which means that the visible theatre is probably the Theatre. Well that certainly makes more sense to me...Might be worth searching for this Panorama on the internet...Colin4C 12:35, 12 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Those hills are somewhat bizarre but the View (which I'm looking at right now) is most definately from the north and is inscribed: 'The View of the City of London from the North Towards the South'. The Shoreditch theatre is on the extreme left (east) of the panorama, which seems to be taken from a field north of Clerkenwell which features immediately to the south, with Westminster to the right (west). In the left foreground is a Windmill (in Finsbury fields?). As for the Red Lion, though this is sometimes claimed by modern scholars to predate the Theatre there is no evidence, as far as I can see, of any plays ever being performed there and we have Cuthbert Burbage's own statement that his father, James Burbage, was the first to build a theatre in London....Colin4C 14:04, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems that there were no legal problems with using The Curtain: just that it was a crummy dump (I guess...). The Red Lion is a bit of a mystery...for instance it is not mentioned by the contemporary moralists and preachers who let out salvo after salvo of moral indignation immediately after the Theatre and Curtain were built (1576-77). These theatres were even credited with evoking God's wrath as manifested by the great earthquake of 1580...(maybe we should mention that in the article as well...). Yes, there is something iconic and even mysterious about 'The Theatre', I even read somewhere that the magus John Dee was involved in its conception...Colin4C 18:34, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "wooden O"

message: Leslie Hotson confidently identified this image, taken from Abram Booth's Description of England (c1600) as The Curtain, basing his discovery on the depiction of the loft, flagpole and access stairs. However, The Oxford Companion to Shakespeare "firmly reidentified" the building as The Theatre, so I'm taking it out as misleading.--217.155.32.221 (talk) 21:53, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've belatedly noticed an observation from User:Colin4C (above) drawing attention to a second flagpole in the image, which he says shows the position of The Curtain. I've scoured the reproduction in Woods's book but I can't see this at all, so I'm still happy to leave the image out.--217.155.32.221 (talk) 22:18, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misidentified image removed