Talk:W. Patrick Lang

message: Please, let's not make this into a CV. The books and articles are appropriate, but we don't need every media appearance, lecture, etc. -Will Beback 21:10, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, there is not a single relaible source for this material. The subject's own blog does not count. This article needs to be sourced and cleaned up or it may be nominated for deletion. -Will Beback 22:00, 9 January 2006 (UTC)

text: This should not be a CV nor should it be a memoir. It is also not a place for random defamatory comments. Pat Lang is notable because he is a public figure and because he has made vital contributions to the public sphere in terms of the war on terrorism (most notably, perhaps, his appearance in front of the Senate to discuss the implications of the exposure of CIA operative Valerie Wilson). Editing one's own entry is bad Wikipedia form, but I believe it is sometimes acceptable to correct blatant inaccuracies. Looking over the edit history, it appears he has edited his own entry far more than should be typical.--csloat 01:06, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see Wikipedia: Verifiability for the need to cite sources. See Wikipedia:reliable sources for what is an allowable source. See Wikipedia:no original research for why personal knowledge is not allowed. If User:69.140.68.140 is the subject then please see Wikipedia:autobiography. Thanks, -Will Beback 01:33, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WP is not a CV

message: *I still don't have the hang of footnotes. If somebody could clean it up, it would be greatly appreciated.
*   Godspeed John Glenn! Will 13:57, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: footnote

message: @Rillian
:"DORGAN: First of all, thank you very much. I've already identified you, and so will not do that prior to your presentation. But because you have identified Colonel Lang as beginning, let me describe with just a bit more detail what I have about Colonel Lang  because he has a very distinguished record in serving this country. Retired senior officer of the U.S. military intelligence and U.S. Army Special Service Forces. He served in the Department of Defense both as a serving officer and a member of the Defense Senior Executive Service; highly decorated veteran of several of America's overseas conflicts, including the war in Vietnam; trained and educated as a Middle East specialist by the U.S. Army and served in that region for many years; the first professor of the Arabic language at the United States Military Academy at West Point. 
:DORGAN: And in the Defense Intelligence Agency, he was the defense intelligence officer for the Middle East, South Asia on terrorism and later the first director of the Defense HUMINT Service. For his service in the DIA he was awarded the presidential rank of Distinguished Executive. [emphasis supplied] He's an analyst/consultant for many television-radio broadcasts, among them "Jim Lehrer NewsHour." I wanted to say that all publicly because, Mr. Lang, you have a very distinguished record of serving the United States of America and for that we are all very deeply appreciative. Mr. Lang, you may proceed. 
:LANG: Thank you, Senator.  "
Source Sen. Dorgan Hearing  65.184.213.36 21:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good find. Does anyone know what year Lang received the award? There is a list on the OPM website dating back to 1998 and it would be nice to link directly to the OPM page as direct source. Thanks Rillian 17:11, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Source for Lang having presidential rank of distinguished executive

message: [SENATOR]"DORGAN: First of all, thank you very much. I've already identified you, and so will not do that prior to your presentation. But because you have identified Colonel Lang as beginning, let me describe with just a bit more detail what I have about Colonel Lang because he has a very distinguished record in serving this country.
Retired senior officer of the U.S. military intelligence and U.S. Army Special Service Forces. He served in the Department of Defense both as a serving officer and a member of the Defense Senior Executive Service; highly decorated veteran of several of America's overseas conflicts, including the war in Vietnam; trained and educated as a Middle East specialist by the U.S. Army and served in that region for many years; the first professor of the Arabic language at the United States Military Academy at West Point.
DORGAN: And in the Defense Intelligence Agency, he was the defense intelligence officer for the Middle East, South Asia on terrorism and later the first director of the Defense HUMINT Service. For his service in the DIA he was awarded the presidential rank of Distinguished Executive.
He's an analyst/consultant for many television-radio broadcasts, among them "Jim Lehrer NewsHour."
I wanted to say that all publicly because, Mr. Lang, you have a very distinguished record of serving the United States of America and for that we are all very deeply appreciative.
Mr. Lang, you may proceed.
LANG: Thank you, Senator.   "
*http://democrats.senate.gov/dpc/hearings/hearing23/transcript.pdf
*All those things are covered by a us official gov't
document introduced by a US senator and made part of the record at an official hearing! And accesible online for authentication. Do we really need to put in a citation? I'd be glad to if the consensus call for it. But are we not just revisiting the President Award thing we just went through. Godspeed John Glenn! Will 17:45, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations Needed  for Green Beret Service and Military Intelligence

message: 
Apparent new user User:Mqmpk or at least new user to this page put a clean up tag w/o prior discussion. Let's have a discussion on what needs to be "cleaned up" and clean it up.If that's the case, let's have a discussion, the article is not that long. Godspeed John Glenn! Will 14:00, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup tag

message: A copy can be downloaded here in pdf format.Godspeed John Glenn! Will 22:22, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Official Defense Intelligence Agency Biography

message: Come on now- he was more than a clerical military analyst. he was a director of HUMINT. Anyway putting him in a narrow category of three with the second person being a convicted Cuban spy and the third a controversial ?data miner seems to be calumny by association. Godspeed John Glenn! Will 20:24, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Category: Military Analyst of the DIA

message: I wish I knew more German. Guggenheim means "something home." No matter I will look it up. the bestt cite would be their web site. I called them and verified the fact. They said it would be in the annual report but the secretary said they were a couple of years behind in their uploading of their annual reports. She said she could fax it me verification. I told her that wouldn't help. So I just linked tot he Col. Lang's CV on his website. Godspeed John Glenn! Will 16:06, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation for Harry Frank Guggenheim Foundation

message: tool showing recent vandalism.wikirageGodspeed John Glenn! Will 16:29, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: interesting tool

message: Judging from previous entries on this talk page, the subject has edited this page.  The whole article reads like promotional/vanity.  Every article/blog entry/viewpoint by the subject does not merit inclusion. --Omarcheeseboro (talk) 01:54, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup needed 

message: Medals:
DSSM (! OLC),
LOM,
Bronze Star (1 OLC),
MSM (2 OLC),
JSCM,
ARCOM (w V)
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Service medals:    
Senior Parachutist Badge,
Expert Infantry Badge,
Special Forces Tab  Godspeed John Glenn! Will 00:36, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Uploaded DD 212 to Wikipedia Commons 

message: Personal blogs are not considered reliable sources (RS) by Wikipedia.  They can be added as external links, but not as sources for citations. Only blogs managed by other parties, i.e., news media, are acceptable as sources.Parkwells (talk) 01:03, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

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