Talk:Subaltern (postcolonialism)

message: I am not an expert on theorisation of the "subaltern". But parts of this page, while interesting, referenced and well-written, looks like original work to me, especially the "voices of the subaltern". Perhaps it is just a matter of style, I have not consulted the quoted references.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Postdeborinite (talk • contribs) 13:30, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems that way to me too. The article would profit from more editors. 84.226.185.221 (talk) 12:43, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proper encyclopedia style? =

message: The article header is longer than the actual contents of the page. Can somebody please rectify this? I am struggling myself, but I know that there has been written on the subaltern as of present. Maybe we could try add that in?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 196.210.160.119 (talk) 18:50, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Layout

message: The article is not currently consistent in its treatment of the term. The opening says that it refers to "the person who is" but later the article says the term "describes the lower classes and the social groups..." I think that it is better to have it refer to the collective in the context of the article rather than the individual. Are there any objections to me updating the article accordingly? —Zujine|talk 06:28, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singular or Plural 

message: Is the Conquest of the Planet of the Apes (1972) reference even appropriate? What edification about the body of postcolonial thought does the study of that film provide?
It's ironic in light of the bell hooks' quote.
;A reply to silly ignorance, its discontents, and knee-jerk deletions
The Conquest of the Planet of the Apes example in the "See Also" section is appropriate, because it is a story specifically about the Subaltern. View it, and pay attention to the dialogues describing and justifying simian subjugation. Because, outside of the didactic filmsBattle of Algiers (1966) and Burn! (1969), by Gillo Pontecorvo, a direct, but non-didactic explanation, demonstration, and application of the theory of colonialism (hence of post-colonial theory) is unavailable. Moreover, please, get it right, use and address the correct film title, and film story. Unilateral deletion, without explanation, indicates ignorance of the post-colonial subject and the source. Not everything is surface.
Best regards,
Mhazard9 (talk) 19:00, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess the Apes departed despite your best arguments against Silly Ignorance. 12:41, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  See also example 

message: Mandala (political model)
*The mandala is a model for describing the patterns of diffuse political power distributed among Mueang or Kedatuan (principalities) in early Southeast Asian history, when local power was more important. The concept of a mandala counteracts modern tendencies to look for unified political power, i.e., the power of large kingdoms and nation states of later history — an inadvertent byproduct of 15th-century advances in map-making technologies.
—Pawyilee (talk) 17:15, 25 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: See also

message: Thanks Indopug for such a definitive article. This is informative and at least apparently authentic. However, I want to ask a question. What is the difference between the concepts of 'subaltern population' and 'proletarian population'? A discussion on this could be very interesting. Please reply if you think I deserve to be replied. Arghyan Opinions (talk) 10:27, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Proletarian suggests mid-century thought and evokes factories, labors, workers. Subaltern gives more weight to cultural factors and cultural representation. Subaltern is about colonial relations, slavery, untouchables, culturally enforced social status, gender relations, more than economic relations within a capitalist society. Subaltern could apply throughout history and to non-capitalist societies whereas proletariat only makes sense after the industrial revolution. 84.226.185.221 (talk) 12:38, 21 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thanks 

message: A discussion thread about the reliability and notability of this author and his pages is taking place at Wikipedia:Neutral point of view/Noticeboard#Owen 'Alik Shahadah, please comment there so we can get a final consensus. Rupert Loup (talk) 12:03, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Owen 'Alik Shahadah 

message: Unlike many other political ideology wikipedia pages, there's nothing on criticism. Should there be a section on how many scholars reject this as a valid category? The works of Vivek Chibber in particular are pretty relevant. As presented, the article appears a bit biased, when in the social sciences this idea is often very marginal and not taken seriously.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dreadunicorn (talk • contribs) 03:56, 26 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

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