Talk:St Mary's College, Crosby

message: It might help to use the  template for a general infobox. --Martian.knight 00:04, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Christ, you're right. It's horribly written. I've removed it all. Add back in something you might find more appropriate - try and mention both sides, good and bad! Chase me ladies, I'm the Cavalry 02:42, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Using templates

message: Anyone have a free use image of the school/the badge? If so, it'd be rather useful. BabaDraconis 16:42, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Image??

message: It's actually called "St. Mary's College, Crosby". Will change when I have less French homework...BabaDraconis 10:48, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sefton?

message: Does anybody have a website reference for reading the facts etc of this case? I recognise some of the names of the defendants and would like to know what happened.Tim Spooner, Bangkok  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.89.142.45 (talk) 18:39, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: the legalistic aspects of the case can be found here. http://www.titanictown.plus.com/Pleadings_final.doc] It's fair to say they do not do justice to the insane, malicious carnival that dragged on for several years, damaging the reputation of the school, destroying the ethos of the Association and ending in ignominious capitulation by the defendants at Liverpool County Court, incurring on themselves £10,000 legal costs... Mind you, since it involved Ken Smith, perhaps not so surprising Neminem laedit (talk) 19:25, 29 March 2008 (UTC)

text: in law, the courts will only intervene in club cases on narrow grounds, so all such suits have necessarily to be framed in somewhat dry, dusty language which impugns the legality of the process. The whys and wherefores are of little interest to the court: they will not act as a court of appeal in relation to the facts. However, they will intervene when i) the constitution has not been followed, ii) natural justice has been ignored, or iii) the committee have acted in bad faith (malice). As a matter of fact, there was no question of the plaintiff's sobriety; on the contrary the only accusation that was ever floated was that he, as a member of the committee, had upheld the licensing laws and refused entry to non-members long after the bar was supposed to be shut. Of course, in the witch-hunt that followed, that accusation was not pressed - had it been, the defendants would have been instantaneously destroyed under count iii). No specific accusation was made, except that, in their opinion, the plaintiff had broken the rules by refusing to submit to the witch-hunt and exercising his right of appeal under the constitution. As anyone can see that was malicious nonsense, and bound to fail on grounds i), ii) and iii). The scandal involved a) a series of unfavorable articles appearing in the local press. b) adverse publicity for the school, combined with their shameful behaviour in attempting to sever their links before honoring their obligations to the plaintiff under the constitution c) further adverse publicity surrounding the closure of the club, after the Police had taken an interest in its nefarious goings-on... Neminem laedit (talk) 01:49, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Yes, you are quite right. Unfortunately there was a "carnival of malice" instigated by certain persons, involving violence, the threat of violence, criminal damage, scurrilous whisperings, etc. - i.e. the standard fare of inadequate, petty dictators who are challenged and are facing defeat. Let's not forget, it was the Defendants who decided to instigate the childish witch-hunt, and try to destroy a fellow-member of their own committee, ignoring the advice of one or two wise heads who had experience in the real world, and who told them to they were courting disaster. The plaintiff himself spelled it out at each step of the way precisely what the consequences would be, for them personally and for the club. The arrogant poltroons merely took these warnings as an invitation to carry on. The plaintiff had every right, after such fair warnings, to drag them before a real court (instead of a kangaroo court) and seek redress. Happily, they underestimated their opponent and the whole dirty business boomeranged back onto their retarded heads! They then tried to cover their traces, lying to the doltish, supine membership, only to find themselves back in court again with another writ, twice as long as the first. As you can guess, they lost that too, with another £3000+ wasted costs. On both occasions the defendants were represented by barristers and the plaintiff was a litigant-in-person. That fact alone should speak volumes about the relative merits of each side's case. Neminem laedit (talk) 03:34, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stringer vs St Marys Old Boys 

message: This page has been vandalized repeatedly.  I am requesting a page lock by an admin
--118.69.88.209 (talk) 12:10, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeated Vandalism 

message: Go ahead! Redheylin (talk) 23:31, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just had a go at tidying up the references. Removing two which didn't belong, to a blog and Facebook, and adding titles and where appropriate publishers to all that were missing them, so it's clearer what the sources are. I had to remove the quote that came from the blog, and took at a dubious statement I spotted about a former teacher. It's not really addressed the balance issues but all the contentious content seems properly referenced now.--JohnBlackburnewordsdeeds 19:24, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Objections to article as it stands on grounds of neutrality and verifiability

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message: Per WP:CSC, entries here should meet "the notability criteria for its own non-redirect article in the English Wikipedia. Red-linked entries are acceptable if the entry is verifiably a member of the listed group and it is reasonable to expect an article could be forthcoming in the near future."  I've removed entries that were only sourced to an alumni site, "friendsofsaintmarys" as that reference doesn't approach WP:RS, nor does address notability.  An objection was made to removing entries that had obituaries published in major newspapers, so I've left those for now. OhNoitsJamie Talk 21:53, 13 August 2021 (UTC)
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