Talk:Neopets/Archive 5

message: Moved the controversy section to a new page, due to no objections and 3 complaints about the section being longer than the article.
Lmblackjack21 13:00, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While I agree with the creation of a new article, I need to point out two things:
*Move some references to the new article.
*The Controversy section that remains in the main article should not consist of only two paragraphs. Ideally, it should summarize the controversies in 3-4 paragraphs of at least 4 sentences each. If the Controversy section in the main article is too short, you may be accused of POV forking.
--J.L.W.S. The Special One 14:29, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Neopets Controversy

message: My article on TNT Usernames has recently been deleted and I was told that the staff members of Neopets do not want their usernames released. Is this true? Dorkiie 04:11, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I've always been told. I also deleted the list because it was more of a trivia-type collection, not necessarily part of the main article. Lmblackjack21 19:21, 18 October 2006 (UTC)

text: That may be true, but did TNT actually say this? I'd figure if people knew the usernames, chances of being scammed by an impersonator would be less likely. Pardon me for not understanding how this subtopic is irrelevant to the article. Dorkiie 04:43, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  A list of Neopets administrators doesn't really add anything to the reader's understanding of Neopets. Moreover, unless there's some official listing of their admins on their site somewhere, it isn't verifiable information. If you think a list of administrators might be useful to Neopets users, then I'd suggest you ask the Neopets staff about putting one up on their site somewhere. Zetawoof(ζ) 05:29, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

text:  TNT has stated on numerous occasions that any official actions will be taken by the official account, theneopetsteam.  Since official actions aren't taken by other accounts, how is a list useful?  --otherlleft 02:37, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Asking TNT sounds like a good idea. Thank you. Dorkiie 07:20, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ask TNT? Good luck with that Mightyxjess 07:06, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Concerning TNT Usernames

message: Hi all.  Petpet went to AFD recently.  The verdict was to merge everything bar the huge list of Petpets with Neopets.  Accordingly, I have put the paragraph of information and the image in a new section on this article, and redirected Petpet to here.  It remains up to you guys what you do with it.  Cheers, Proto::type 11:33, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wondered what happened to the Petpet article. so it would seem someone needs to go and pick up the task. *sigh* i suppose the rest of the information not added to this article can be cleaned from the History of "Petpet", needed or not. --Joe Somebody 00:50, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Petpet

message: Why the protection for the article? Last time I checked,the talk page was only one page long.Was there some big (new) controversy that I didn't know about?Serenaacw 11:00, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was semi-protected, due to 5 IP vandals a minute. -Amarkov babble 14:10, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Why the protection?

message: Not mentioning any sites but neo has way too many.
71.28.52.114 22:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Who thinks that neopets has to many copy-cat sites?

message: You need to edit to include this:
http://www.mediaweek.com/mw/news/recent_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1003380319
http://www.worldscreen.com/newscurrent.php?filename=mtv110906.htm
http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?a=19664&hed=MTV+to+Drive+Kart+Rider+to+the+U.S.§or=Industries&subsector=EntertainmentAndMedia
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/061109/nyth045.html?.v=71
http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/11-09-2006/0004470780&EDATE=
Very important, id imagine. 82.3.94.23 17:09, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Neopets teams up with Nexon

message: I think it'd be good to note on how some users use bots and programs on neopets to gain advantage.  I ran into www.neofreaks.info recently, and I think I'd be notable to add it under external links.  They're also credited with finding the item dupe glitch back in July 2005. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TomConti (talk • contribs) 20:35, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure we won't be linking this website to the article, just as i'm sure the "World of Warcraft" article doesn't allow links to hightly popular gold mining companies within the game. It can be mentioned programs are still being made and so forht, but to directly link and point to them seems a little shameful. --Joe Somebody 00:50, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

text: It think it would be helpful, and wouldn't find it appropriate to censor the knowledge of information, especially in a case like this.  I do agree with you that it wouldn't be appropriate to link to websites making profit off another website, such as the selling of points.  In this case though, I believe the site is just an information source as they aren't selling membership or points.  I would feel that the article would be a bit biased if it didn't describe the other side of neopets. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by TomConti (talk • contribs) 03:11, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's unnecessary, in my opinion, because it's not really a Neopets-specific problem - in every MMORPG there are people attempting to cheat, so this is better addressed there. —AySz88\^-^ 08:34, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. makes more sense to be voiced as a problem in the MMORPG community and not just for Neopets. As far as describing the other side of neopets, i think it's done fine now mentioning the cheaters/spammers/cookie grabbers. it can be expanded upon/refined though. --Joe Somebody 11:05, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Neopets Cheating & Use of Programs

message: so what are the links with scientology other than dohring being a scientologist? I couldn't care less about neopets other than the scientology thing, and yet it is not explained in this article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.19.14.36 (talk • contribs) 02:14, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's because scientology is implemented in the workplace, or at least it's implied that way in this article. There is also the fear it would spread into the site itself, despite the fact Neopets doesn't support any religion or school of thought. I think it's best to discuss it in the main neopets controversy article, as it's just a quick summary here. --Joe Somebody 11:05, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: scientology

message: From article : Neopets also has a "limit" on the number of neomails that can be sent in a day, or more so, in a certain span of time. This is to prevent the slowing down of a server and spamming. It also allows you to talk with your friends, but only if they have an account on neopets.
There are no limits unless the limit is infinity. I send like 100 neomails a day and there is no limit,I highly doubt it. No one that I know was every stopped while trying to send a neomial just because they already sent too much. plus,with it being so popular,the neopets server would slow down anyway. Talk section created by Alyssacarmillo 20:32, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Neomail Limits

message: Below the articles for petpetpets theres an advertisement for a neoshop(180036459's) claiming there are petpetpetpets. Should that be removed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.181.241.80 (talk • contribs) 18:42, 1 January 2007
:I found this section to be of poor quality and removed it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.4.205.120 (talk • contribs) 04:49, 2 January 2007
You were right in removing it, as it was just someone advertising themselves on the article (in a lying manner as well). Such vandalism is damaging to the article, and should always be removed if it's seen. --Joe Somebody 11:05, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Neoshop advertisement

message: I was stub sorting earlier and came across Neopets Bankruptcy. Its got no sources, and is written as a news article, but it might be something to add to this page before I put it up for speedy deletion. StvnLunsford 20:42, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I go on Neopets often and I'd think that something about this would be in the news. They are grossing so much per year that bankruptcy is unlikely at this point. I think you were right to put it up for deletion. --Brain 23:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bankruptcy

message: This is a joke. It's not worthy of keeping in the article.
Really.
A wikipedia member with a terrible username 14:37, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's worthy of noting due to a real movie coming out, and Neopets poking fun at it via a game page. That if it's really going to be part of the movie will soon be found out. --Joe Somebody 22:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jelly Blobs of Doom movie date 

message: I've found that both spellings of color have been used in the article, and I was just wondering which set of spellings should be used. SmileToday 20:15, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: British spelling should be default for this article. The co-creators are British and British spelling is commonly found across the site. Squids'and'Chips 21:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I've changed all the spellings of color to colour, but if I missed anything, please fix it.  SmileToday 22:58, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Colour vs. Color

message: Something should be added somewhere about how neopets is decreasing in value. it was worth like, 160 million before and is now worth 20mill. That's a huge loss. Their page views are way down and everything is going downhill. source = http://www.alexa.com/data/details/main?q=neopets.com&url=neopets.com —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.30.49.240 (talk • contribs)  23:04, March 19, 2007
It's on and off really. If there was an article it could be sourced from, I suppose it could be added but alexa isn't a reputable source.  TomConti 01:26, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: idea

message: Someone who can needs to rename this back to Neopets. Angryscientist 17:44, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: I haven't been here for awhile, and since my departure, data has been removed. the entire "Environment" section is gone, and hasn't been added to List of Neopian worlds, nor has the mention of Dr. Sloth being highly popular in plots to Neopets plots. There isn't even a specific section about the Battledome (never was really), and it's only mentioned in an off hand fashion. Most importantly, the "List of references in Neopets," a list detailing references in and out of neopets, doesn't exist anymore.
What happened to the data? Will it eventually return? --Joe Somebody 22:50, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Persistent vandal 28 January 2007. Not all edits were reverted. I've restored the environment section. Squids'and'Chips 02:48, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: THANK YOU! :D --Joe Somebody 03:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sections removed?

message: Lots of vandalism. Quatreryukami 15:36, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: RFP is the place to request semi-protection. I have filed an RFP, and the article has been semi-protected for 2 weeks, after which we will have to continue watching for vandalism (and if neccesary, file another RFP). --J.L.W.S. The Special One 16:09, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Request semi pro

message: "The powerful Faerie Queen provides a total of seven stats, raising level by one, hitpoints by three, and strength by three." ~ Article
:Can a neopian verify this? I've heard claims that the Faerie Queen has rewarded other-wise before... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 121.7.187.128 (talk) 16:06, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it's true, but there is no point to mentioning it here. maybe at Neopets Faeries instead. --Joe Somebody 03:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Neopian Facts

message: I notices this earlier but didn't make mention of it, but what happened to the fansite links? Were they taken out in a previous edit, similar to the environment section (recently put back)? Or were people so fed up with those wanting to have their fansite featured, they were just...taken down? Hoping someone can explain. --Joe Somebody 03:34, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fansites generally do not qualify as acceptable external links and generally, only 1 is allowed. SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 20:56, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fansite links gone?

message: The homepage image in the infobox is stretched and terrible-looking - I thought shrinking the width would fix the problem, but it only shrinks the (stretched) image. How can we correct this so the image is displayed properly? PaladinWhite 23:25, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct image proportions 

message: There should be an added topic to the article concerning Neopets.com's recent (April 26, 2007) layout change and also the new layout does not have sidebars so the topic about sidebars is completely useless.  Also can anyone confirm a rumor that this layout will last 7 days I didn't want to start the topic until I got confermation that the layout is in fact temporary.
rgoodermote 20:45, April 26, 2007 (UTC)
:Sidebars themes still exist. They just aren't at the side anymore; they're at the top and bottom. Squids'and'Chips 02:37, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I wasn't saying that everyone is happy with it... I know that a lot are unhappy, I see it on the boards there, but not EVERYONE dislikes it, so the statement was very POV. Icecradle 21:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

text: POV stands for point of view.  It refers to a Wikipedia policy known as Wikipedia:Neutral Point of View.  SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 22:40, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

text: That's alright, although everyone might want to take a look at Wikipedia:WTF? OMG! TMD TLA. ARG! to avoid confusing newer editors. SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 23:07, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Neopets Layout\Sidebar 

message: Yahoo Finance which gets its information from Hoovers lists the current CEO as Kyra E. Reppen. News from 2006 , , , and  only say "Senior Vice President & General Manager." Although the AWN article is suggesting a little different. I don't think the Neopets Press Kit has been updated recently.
Does anyone know anything about this? Squids'and'Chips 00:38, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not a business person but isn't it owned by Viacom? And at last check, the press kit wasn't updated in at least 2 years (though I am most likely wrong). SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 22:43, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

text: It says "Dohring" is the current CEO, but without a citation. Interesting...SmileToday☺(talk to me , My edits) 22:45, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's listed in the Press Kit, which hasn't been updated since July of last year it looks. Squids'and'Chips 22:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Company Information 

message: Take a look around Neopets and you'll see bombing games, shooting, battles and even auctions(which I like to call Neobay)! There is probably much more but still! THIS IS BAD!!!! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.70.53.173 (talk) 14:19, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Erm? Where to start? Firstly Neopets is a game for people of all ages... not just small children, so there's no problem with things like auctions, which are possibly more adult orientated. About bombing games etc... I dunno about you, but when I was a kid I used to play with toy soldiers, toy guns... whack-a-mole, read books about epic battles and heroes fighting 'baddies'... and I like to think that I turned out to be a sane, non-violent person. I really, really, really don't understand modern society's OBSESSION with bubble-wrapping kids and keeping them away from anything deemed even slightly dangerous. Playing a bombing game on Neopets is not going to encourage kids to bomb or anything, what's the problem? 
But this point is just slating Neopets and doesn't really have anything to do with the wiki article, does it? Icecradle 22:51, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Neopets is already WAY too "family-friendly" without people like you making it worse. Go back to 1653.
Neopets have added on all these retrictiions for people under 13...but people over 13 and/or 18 have a lot more freedom.The auctioning is REGULATED and you can't keep kids hidden from war games forever. My 3 year old cousin knows about war. What's wrong with srategy games???Snick's Friend (talk) 22:40, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  How "Family Friendly" is it? 

message: Pulled from the edit summary :
:Since the lead section should summarise the entire article, conciseness is the name of the game. Perhaps we should create a History section - that's where information on the revamp would belong User:Hildanknight 
This article is missing a History section. Probably should be created. 
I also have a new layout proposal User:Squids and Chips/Neopets. Squids'and'Chips 21:08, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section 

message: I have proposed that some sections of the Neopets article be split into a new article entitled Neopets, Inc. As I was editing this, I realized that the word Neopets stood for four different things in different instances (maybe not exactly four, but three for sure):
#Neopets.com
#Neopets, Inc.
#Neopets (the creatures)
#the Neopets franchise (which could just as well be part of Neopets, Inc.)
Parts of the Company information and Merchandise sections are about Neopets, Inc. and the Neopets franchise, which could be split into the new article (or maybe two new articles and a new disambig page). Then this article can focus on Neopets.com, "the Neopets game." If so, Neopets should be italicized when it is referring the the game of Neopets, so that it can be differentiated from the creatures. Squids'and'Chips 00:04, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone already split off the "Company information" section to Neopets, Inc. I split the 'Merchandise" section into that article as well. I also restructured the article, mostly to split off subsections from the indiscriminate "Games" section which sseemed to include everything that didn't seem to belong somewhere else. Squids'and'Chips 22:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split Neopets article 

message: The amount of neopets have changed from 50 to 54
Fixed it
Sasawat Prankprakma 02:18, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amount of neopet species 

message: Lol, mabye u could add a few links... oh well. anyway my username is ilovehaku123 and sasukecrush32321 and tiger_00 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Neofun (talk • contribs).
:Thanks for the tip. Remember to sign your posts with four tildes (~~ ~~, remove the space). Crowstar 11:47, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links 

message: Is Jelly World REALLY that important to put down? I mean, it's big, but not THAT much. ~Crowstar~ 15:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jelly World? 

message: The Neopian Customisation Mall [18], or the NC Mall, is a mall for buying "wearable" items. Currently in it's open beta phases, there are about 20-30 items up for purchase currently at 50-100 NeoCash each. Users obtain NeoCash by buying it with their real world money. There has been many complaints regarding the fact that Neopets no longer kept their promise. Another problem with the NC Mall that users aren't very happy with is that you must buy the items with actual dollars, and the items disappear within 90 days. Then you must purchase more clothes. Currently NCM is in Beta Testing.
Can someone clean that paragraph up. What was the promise Neopets kept? If the promise is to keep Neopets free to play then why restate it in the next sentence? Shouldn't this article become strictly informal and then post the controversy in the Neopets Controversy Page? Someone needs to clean up this article by filling in unanswered questions and maintaining professionalism and neutrality.
68.52.156.206 23:56, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Promise was that Neopets told it's members they'd stay free.
Because of The NCM, users are upset.. Megan :)  23:23, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: However, The Neopets Team has kept their promise... sorta.  Generally speaking, Neopets is still free.  There is no fee to sign up to Neopets, is there?  No.  Purchasing from the NCM is in no way required in order to attain an advantage over other Neopians (excluding the Winged Talisman, but that was removed a while back).  If one were to complain about the NCM, why not complain about Premium also.  TNT has kep their promise, as Neopets is still free for guests to enter. TheInfinityZero 03:43, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neopets Mall 

message: Hi, I was just reading this article and I wanted to know some more information.... I thought I would let you guys know thats in the reference list #16 is a member only page and #18 doesnt work.... thank you :) --121.45.111.136 11:00, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed them now. You can edit it too, as I don't think this article is protected from IP edits at the moment. Squids'and'Chips 15:00, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Is there a way to nominate this article to protection from IP editing? I've been noticing a lot of vandalism lately... Loof1 04:37, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:RFPP --Sigma 7 03:34, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi Protection due to vandalism... 

message: Oi, where'd it go? That was a good page. I was gonna go add to it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.21.221 (talk) 00:57, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It got deleted because it wasn't really controversy - but a bunch of moans, groans, whiners and unsourced stuff. 172.206.48.115 22:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism section