Talk:VF Group–Bardiani–CSF–Faizanè

message: I know that CSF Navigare are registered in Ireland with the UCI. However like other italian teams like LPR and Tenax (now defunct), this appears to be for anything other then sporting. In a substance over  form (accounting theory. sorry!!!),l it would be more appropriate as an Italian team rather then irish. Any other opinion on this is welcomed. I note this is different for LPR team who are also registered in Ireland. They are put down as being Italian. As they are both italian team registered in Ireland, they should be uniformed in their country whether it be italy or ireland. as an irish person , i'd have no problem claiming either team as irish :D just kidding. However in all seriousness, i'd like other opinions on whether they should be irish or italian. have i made any sense whatsoever?Phil_Noltetalk 19:45, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We can only really go by country of registration and/or head office, everything else is pretty much POV. We've looked at this before and there isn't really any way around it. Ireland seems especially popular for this kind of thing. It happens, I believe, because the number of Professional Continental teams per country is limited. Italy seems to produce lots of teams at this level so they register elsewhere. Of course, words to the effect of "Italian influenced team" or "Irish-Italian team" in the prose is most welcome and beneficiary, provided it is cited!! Citing these things ("everybody thinks xyz") is more difficult than it looks. SeveroTC 18:57, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Irish cycling team?

message: I tried to bring this up at WT:CYC a while ago, but no one replied. What's our basis for saying this is the continuation of the CSF team and not "a brand new Italian team" like they themselves say they are? A similar situation exists with LPR Brakes and De Rosa-Stac Plastic. Nosleep (Talk · Contribs) 01:43, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colnago CSF Inox is a "brand new Italian team" 

message: Up to October 2012 both Ireland and Italy were listed with different time-frames and that was changed to Ireland only at that time per this edit. That fact remained until January 2013 when Ireland was removed completely and only Italy remained per this edit. Ireland is no longer mentioned. So what are the correct time frames for the team being based in Ireland and Italy and should the article not reflect that information? If there is no Irish connection then the Ireland WikiProject assessment banner should be removed, but if Ireland is appropriate it should stay but need to have some prose that says so. ww2censor (talk) 13:13, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: 2007-2010 and 2012 I believe the team was registered in Ireland. It's registered in Italy now. Reasons are as above - country of registration for cycling team is a bit of an odd one to be honest. Severo (talk) 22:04, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Severo, that seems to be the situation but are there any sources. You believe it is so and I do too but that does not verify it. ww2censor (talk) 23:30, 10 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: UCI archives at uci.ch (if you have the patience to wade through them) but I looked at cyclingarchives.com. Severo (talk) 17:55, 25 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Country info