Talk:Hayfield, Derbyshire

message: Just a handful of additions as well as tidying up. Additionally, the History section now has subheadings. I really can't think of anything to add to the entry without going into inappropriate detail (ie not encyclopaedic). I intend to add one or two photos to brighten up the article. Highpeakster 17:53, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Additions and tidying up: 8 March 07

message: Although the George Inn has a banner claiming to be the village's oldest pub, the Bulls Head disputes this claim. http://www.hayfieldcricketclub.com/ has this: "The Bulls Head Inn is the oldest pub in the Village starting life as the Brewhouse Inn  accommodation for the church circa 1396  became known as the Bulls Head when Henry the 8th  took these ecclesiastical Inns out of church ownership (that's why there are many Bulls Heads next to churches)." Architecturally the building looks older too. Dave.Dunford (talk) 16:16, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Oldest pub

message: Local historians state that Hayfield's entry in the Domesday book reads Hedfeld. Indeed, some books authorised by various Hayfield organisations use this word in their titles. However, both the National Archives website (linked to in the main article) and Domesday Book – Derbyshire (), a translation published by Phillimore in 1978, refer to Hedfelt. The Phillimore book reproduces the printed edition of the Domesday Book, from 1783, created by Abraham Farley, alongside a modern day translation, produced by the book's editor Philip Morgan. Additionally, Morgan checked Farley's edition against facsimiles of the original for the sake of accuracy. Therefore, I'd suggest local historians are wrong, unless d and t are somehow interchangeable in the latin/Norman French used in the Domesday Book. I don't know a lot about this subject but I don't believe this is the case. 81.129.185.18 (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 21:16, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Domesday Book reference – Hedfelt or Hedfeld?

message: National Statistics need the application of local knowledge as Hayfield Parish has two electoral wards: Hayfield Town and Hayfield Sett In the 2001 Census, Hayfield Town Ward had 2,164 residents, across 910 households and Hayfield Sett Ward some 558 electors accross 284 households the  2001 census for the Civil Parish of Hayfield shows a population of 2852 persons 1410 males and 1442 female Dwellings 1253  Households 1205Phil Gee (talk) 17:37, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hayfield – Statistics 

message: There is a B class Derbyshire article here. Can we stop arguing and find the consensus. thx Victuallers (talk) 21:32, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: editwar-ing and signing

message: I have a book here called The King's England. Written in 1937, it was intended to be a multi-part "Domesday book", and covers most villages in the UK. I have the Derbyshire book. Under the entry for Hayfield, it says something a little strange: "... Kinderscount, the great tableland wild and savage in rock and ravine.... culminating in the height of Kinder Low, where unknown men are sleeping in a mound 2088 feet above the sea."
I'm not sure if this is just flowery language, or whether he's saying there's a burial site there. What do you think? 86.135.161.239 (talk) 18:17, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This refers to the (presumed) Bronze Age bowl barrow on Kinderlow End – see https://historicengland.org.uk/listing/the-list/list-entry/1008068 Dave.Dunford (talk) 08:40, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kinder Low – burial site? 

message: Somebody has added a link to Hayfieldvillage.co.uk but this appears to me to be an embellished advert created by the owners of Bridge End/Grumbleys. I don't think it's right that it's linked to from Wikipedia, because it provides very little new information that isn't already in the article, and there are better external sources of information listed (for example, the Parish council website). 92.15.63.132 (talk) 17:39, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  hayfieldvillage.co.uk – advert in disguise? 

message: Does anyone have a date for Highgate Hall? Recent IP edits have offered dates of 1565 and 1610, the latter quoting http://www.imagesofengland.org.uk/details/default.aspx?id=82105 which merely says "C17", unless I'm missing something. Dave.Dunford (talk) 22:39, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Highgate Hall 

message: As far as I know (as a local), and according to the Ordnance Survey map, Farlands and Booth are two separate farms. Google has few hits for "Farlands Booth" and those that exist seem to be database-generated. Even if there is a recognised "place" called Farlands Booth, it's scarcely a hamlet and this insertion in the lead seems too prominent to me. I've asked where Wikiphunt got the information from. Dave.Dunford (talk) 09:25, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Farlands Booth 

message: Although some of the changes were useful in reducing verbiage, I've reverted most of Haldraper's edit to the lead (diff) for the following reasons:
*The fact that Hayfield is a civil parish as well as a village is important. The wording "X is a village and civil parish in..." is exactly as is suggested at WP:UKVILLAGES ().
*As the article is about the parish as well as the village, the identity of other settlements within that parish is relevant and important.
*Per WP:OVERLINK "the names of major geographic features and locations" should not be linked. England is a "major geographic location".
*Per WP:COPYEDIT (Punctuation section) "Location constructions such as Vilnius, Lithuania require a comma after the second element, e.g., He was born in Vilnius, Lithuania, after the country had gained independence." The edit removed the comma.
Basically the lead of the Hayfield article is not overly long and there is no need to "tighten" it. The lead, before Haldraper's edit, was consistent with the guidance at WP:UKVILLAGES, which says "It should not exceed four paragraphs". Dave.Dunford (talk) 10:32, 15 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Tightening" lead 

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