Talk:Kamen Rider Den-O (character)

message: The latest leaked image  shows Sword form's back.  It looks suspiciously a lot like Axe Form's chest.  Not sure if this has any relevance or notability, just thought I'd throw that out there if anyone was interested.  Theredcomet2000 19:45, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the toys suggest that Ax Form's back is Sword Forms' front, and vice versa. Rod Form's shoulder pads are Ax Form's chest split into two.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 21:28, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sword Form's Back 

message: Where was it said what animals they're based off? Yaguruma 04:20, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motifs 

message: Seriously, decide what it says, and just keep it. Stop freaking changing it back and fourth.
Also, side note, stop adding pointless information, dumb shit, and otherwise irrelevant information. I've finally cleaned the article up, don't screw it up again. Add information thats actually about Den'ou. 
Floria L 20:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Stop the stupid edit wars

message: Can we just pick one alignment for the form pictures and stick to it? I liked it better when they were all on one side, it seems out of wack now. Yaguruma 12:37, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alignment 

message: Was planning on doing it by an episode-to-episode storyline, but Ryulong made me realize how stupid that was. Instead, how about adding major information and summarizing minor information every 3-5 weeks or so. Floria L 10:28, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: True. Sounds like a good idea, compact it every 5 episodes or so, and elaborate moreso on major episodes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Floria L (talk • contribs) 14:16, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biography 

message: Rod form increases speed not lowers it. You can see that when Ultaros stops crab from escaping by using super-speed to grab on to one of his shoulders and throw him away from the water.
Actually... no. Look at stats. Floria L 14:05, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Take into consideration how fast 100m in 9 seconds is. I just saw someone go in about 10 seconds and they were pretty fast. And the Crab Imagin only about 10-20 meters away.I don't know, in the US we hardly know the SI units. It was close regardless. Rod Form is fast, but not as fast as other forms.White Coyote 02:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The stats mean maximum speed. Obviously, going at 100m in 7 seconds is amazingly fast, and its just the other forms are amazingly faster. No question there, numbers speak for themselves. The rider doesn't operate at maximum speed all the time. –Floria L 01:09, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rod Form 

message: I've been really haveing trouble with this for a while. I don't think it is right to say when an Imagin posseses Ryotaro it is "his" personality. Ryotaro never really does anything while he is possesed but talks to the imagin. I feel it is really just the Imagin with Ryo's body. Like when Ryotaro passed out and Momotaro took over and did some illegal stuff, there was no Ryotaro. Either way, personality is a poor word choice to describe the possesing process. Is there some source that says otherwise?(White Coyote 22:51, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's more like the personality that is being expressed through Ryotaro. That's the only thing that we can equate it with, as the Imagin themselves are being manipulated a little by Ryotaro and whatnot.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 23:03, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personality. Is it really Ryotaro? 

message: I don't know if you want to add this yet, but there's apparently a new form known as Wing Form:
http://www.thai-toku.com/cgi-bin/Y1Gold/tcsyabb/index.pl?board=general&action=display&num=1179987528
I don't know if it's a movie-only form, or if it's a new form/super form, though considering past years it's likely to be both. Just throwing that out there. --Egocentrism04 08:00, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and considering his belt style changes with this new form (which probably triggers that hidden button on the DX belt toy), my guess it that this is the super form - but that's purely speculation, no matter how well-thought it might be. --Egocentrism04 08:02, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We should still wait a bit. We don't know if that's one of Ga-O's forms since the belt switches buckles. But it is something to note somewhere.—Ryūlóng (竜龍) 08:04, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should wait a bit too, but I'd like to point out that it specifically says "Den-O Wing Form", so it is Den-O's form. There's also a new link (http://www.thai-toku.com/cgi-bin/Y1Gold/tcsyabb/index.pl?board=general&action=display&num=1180002009) with another new form that makes sense (as opposed to Wing Form which doesn't reference any of his past transformations), but, again, I think we should wait a bit. I'm just adding these links for later references. --Egocentrism04 17:04, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and the new form in the new link is "Climax Form" --Egocentrism04 17:08, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New form - Wing-form 

message: :I've stumbled on some pretty decent scans of Kingliner, The Denebic Buster, and the above named material. This is not only valuable as pictures, but as a refferance source; it shows costume details and colorations. It's the 9th post down, here:    http://forum.tokuasia.com/viewtopic.php?p=16869&sid=8912d54a6bb46cdd3ec0ff20a5e45499       Alas, I  lack the knowledge on how to cite a source on wikipedia, so I'll just hand this data over to you guys, and whoever has the time and skill can look it over and install it if it's good enough.  Shotesu 23:23, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures of Kingliner; Denebic buster, Zero For, and Liner form holding the Denkamen sword

message: From the trading card series for the movie.
Gouka
Isurugi
Rekkou
Ikazuchi
Fractyl 00:45, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Offical Show Art: DenLiner

message: I thought the synch between the Ryoutarou's imagin is lost, so why can Ryoutaou still poses Ryotarou for gun form if their synch is lost. Rider555 16:40 October 31, 2007
* It's due to the posession is finctional at prsent time and outside time. The past seems to negate the "in-sync" posessions. Fractyl (talk) 06:46, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot hole

message: Does ANYONE have any idea where the DenLiner's Dining Car is located? Is it car 3,4,5, or some other car?
66.244.64.101 (talk) 19:54, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was never mentioned. It's just another car on the train, probably after the main four of Gouka.—Ryūlóng (竜龙) 22:11, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dining Car 

message: Reading back over the previous discussion on Imagin possession versus personality, I really have to disagree. During the show, it's made pretty explicitly clear that it's not Ryotaro taking on personality attributes of the Imagin, but the Imagin actually possessing him and using his body. There are numerous times where the Imagin in Ryotaro's body has direct conversation with him, where Ryotaro resists the control of the Imagin, and so on. Then there's the times that an Imagin possesses Ryotaro and uses his body while Ryotaro is asleep -- both Momotaros and Urataros have done this more than once, and there's one point early on where Momotaros explicitly talks with Ryotaro about it (Something along the lines of, "...Ryotaro, you're awake?" during the whole theft debacle in the second or third episode). And finally, there's that brief part where all four of them possess him in the Milk Dipper shortly after they attain Climax Form, and all four of them vie for control... and then wonder where Ryotaro's consciousness went. None of this jives with "Ryotaro takes on elements of their personality" at all, but it all jives perfectly with "They are actually possessing him".
Unless someone has some strenuous objections, I'm probably going to work on an update to reflect this soon. 173.58.146.209 (talk) 22:06, 5 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possession/Personality? 

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