Talk:Intelligence assessment

message: I'd thought I'd run this by here first. 
I'm thinking about doing a radical update on this page. Possibly as a catch-all area for the subject of intelligence with a more concrete framework in the article. The definition on the article is kind of narrow and the different areas relating to this article are pretty sub-par. 
Firstly, I'd write about how information gathering is a notable dimension of strategy, statecraft and war. Then I'd write about how intelligence is inherently intertwined with deception and surprise.
Secondly,  I'd write about the main tasks of intelligence: collection, analysis, counter-intelligence and covert action. 
With collection I'd write about the main collection areas - HUMINT, OSINT, IMINT, SIGINT etc. and possibly tie them into other wiki-articles and possibly update these articles because they are lacking.
A generic Intelligence analysis area for the differing collection areas hasn't been written up yet so I'd add that. The only article for analysis is the SIGINT collection analysis area of cryptanalysis, so I'd link to that.
The current counter-intelligence article needs fleshing out and could be coalesced with this main article.  
With the covert action I'd write about the various methods of concealed influence and paramilitary actions.
I'd also thought I'd add some material about information gathering in general.  I'd concentrate on the three main areas of information gathering those being:
1. flows of data such as news or statistics 
2. information used for advantage in competitive situations and; 
3. strategic information - knowledge of the enemy's game plan. 
So what do you guys think? Are there any objections to myself fleshing out the articles and/or adding a more concrete framework to this area of knowledge? Thanks. --The Donbreakyourarmi 16:33, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this article should be kept a a level that covers governments and organizations in general and not make extensive use of U.S. terminology (xxxINT, etc.). Perhaps there should be a general article on strategic deception. Operation Fortitude and Operation Mincemeat both have articles, which could be linked. I'm not sure the open/covert distinction is so clear. Is satellite imagery open or covert? What about data mining commercial transaction records? Extensive use of video cameras in public areas a la UK? License plate number readers? --agr 15:39, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Intelligence assessment

message: I would suggest that "intelligence" can refer to "intelligence officers" or "intelligence agencies", as well as "collection" or "product". I was surprised to visit Category:Intelligence and find it dealing only with IQ matters and the brain. Everything about intelligence operations, organizations, etc, seemed to be under Category:Espionage. I was then surprised to see ELINT as a subcategory of espionage. I have long been under the impression that espionage deals with spies and spying, including those recruited and those who recruit. I think it is a useful description. Counter-espionage is typically an internal (domestic) affair and tends to deal specifically with ferreting out spies for another country from within domestic government agencies and government contract firms handling classified materials. Intelligence personnel handling communications inside an embassy aren't committing espionage. They aren't necessarily handling an espionage operation, but that could be one of their functions. You might say they have an intelligence function, or that they work in intelligence operations, or that they are simply labeled as intelligence. Couldn't you say, "See that guy over there in the black coat? He's intelligence."? Any thoughts?
Pat 07:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intelligence vs Espionage 

message: well 1 I think that non of these have any intelligence but seriously there are some mentioned that i don't think are actually intelligence agencies; Department of the Treasury,Coast Guard, Department of Energy,
BAnanasdoom (talk) 05:05, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Not actually intelligence agency

message: As suggested in "intelligence vs. espionage", "intelligence" may need a disambiguation page. A new hierarchy of articles, starting with Intelligence cycle management, has an extensive discussion of managing the intelligence process, collection techniques from HUMINT to MASINT, and intelligence dissemination. This set of article also contains a branch starting with Intelligence cycle security, with a subordinate article on Counterintelligence. Both counterintelligence and Clandestine HUMINT point to further subordinate articles on Clandestine HUMINT operational techniques. The main HUMINT article also has an article on Special reconnaissance below it.
Could we discuss where this article's material belongs, given the ambiguity and the new articles? Howard C. Berkowitz (talk) 22:53, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge? New series of intelligence articles

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:Indigo Publications publishes Intelligence Online as well as other intelligence-related newsletters. The question is not whether Intelligence Online or other Indigo Publications properties can be used as sources, but whether they are notable enough for a Wikipedia article. Mnnlaxer (talk) 15:56, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomination of [[:Indigo Publications]] for deletion 

message: It's doubtful whether this article adds a lot of value. We might better redirect it to Intelligence (disambiguation) and move the "Further reading" section to Espionage. Marcocapelle (talk) 07:48, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect?