Talk:Gamble House (Pasadena, California)

message: Is it just me, or does this article read a bit breathless? -- "singing off key," "playing together like musicians" I hesitate to edit it myself because I don't know much about the topic, but it did strike me as a bit over the top. E. Ripley 14:26, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say it's mostly just you. Aside from the two rather overwrought metaphors you cite, the style of the article seems to me well suited to both the subject and to an encyclopedia. In fact, insofar as it fails to maintain "...the formal tone expected of an encyclopedia article," I'd be inclined to see that as more a virtue than a fault. And, among the endless horrors of style with which Wikipedia abounds (go take a look at Culture of California if you want to see something deserving of being slapped with a critical banner), a bit of literary flamboyance such as this article displays is notable only for its relatively benign effect on the whole project. Almost any WP article you could pick at random commits worse offenses. Leave this one be. Whyaduck 13:48, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't agree that it is mostly just User:E. Ripley. This thing sounds like a joke: "wood that looks lovingly rubbed", "mahogany surfaces are placed in rhythmic sequences", "exposed like an interlocking puzzle". This sort of subjective writing does not belong in Wikipedia. It needs a serious overhaul to remove the flourishes. Mike Dillon 15:04, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

text: P.S. The Culture of California article was just unilaterally rewritten on November 30, 2006. It did not used to have the current issues (although the old version had its own problems because it still read like a broken-off section); see the old version. Mike Dillon 15:20, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, "lovingly rubbed" is certainly a subjective phrase (and a terribly minor offense to encyclopedic sensibilities, in my subjective view), but the other two phrases you cite are not subjective at all. The woodwork in the house is indeed, in fact, in objectively observable reality, "placed in rhythmic sequences" and "exposed like an interlocking puzzle." I see nothing at all wrong with that language. It's good, concrete descriptive language. But you're right if you contend that it just doesn't sound like Wikipedia. Indeed it doesn't.  Whyaduck 15:36, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Rhythmic sequences" is not concrete language except when referring to rhythm. Woodwork does not have "rhythm" since it is not a sound. I'm not sure why you oppose stylistic consistency in Wikipedia. Mike Dillon 15:47, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

text: How about "Gamble House is a residential ark"? How is that appropriate for an encyclopedia? Mike Dillon 15:50, 2 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Heh. You mean why do I hate America? ;D I don't. I just love Metaphor more. Whyaduck 15:55, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hyperbole? 

message: Attempted to remove some of the hyperbole and subjective comments. I also discovered that the last paragraph was copied directly from the official site of the Gamble House. I didn't know how to fix it so I left it, if it's still here in a couple of weeks I'll try to do something with it. Kivaan 20:41, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Suggestion:  use some explicit quotes from the "official site", use some explicit quotes from the NRHP Inventory-Nomination document for the property (which I just added link to, within references).  Explicit quotes can carry sensuous quality of language that is desired by some, yet be objectively sourced. doncram 19:30, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attempted Fix 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: * Additional pictures to give readers a better idea of the Gamble House's scenery
* Uses (museums, bookstore, wedding location)
* Impact on the architecture world due to its creative design
* Objective facts
* Additional Sources:
   * Source 1: https://www.visitpasadena.com/businesses/gamble-house/
   * Source 2: http://www.latimes.com/home/la-hm-gamble-house-20160824-snap-story.html
   * Source 3: https://www.archdaily.com/91370/ad-classics-gamble-house-greene-greene
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