Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Military history/World War I task force/Archive 1

message: Can someone look at this First Battle of the Somme (1918) especially with regard to the current naming of Battle of the Somme (1916)?GraemeLeggett 08:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The "First Battles of the Somme, 1918" is the official British name for the battle starting 21 March 1918, otherwise known as Operation Michael or the Kaiserschlacht.  It is to distinguish it from the "Second Battle of the Somme, 1918" which is the official British name for the Somme fighting during the Hundred Days. Gsl 08:36, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battles of the Somme 

message: Would anybody here mind much if I started amalgamating some of the WW1 and post WW1 pages for some of the Brit divs that having continuing histories-- the regular formations and First Line TA?
If there's no difficulty, I'll start rolling them together slowly on the lines of US Div entries.
Cheers
Buckshot06 07:57, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems like a decent idea. Kirill Lokshin 12:27, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  British Divisions 

message: *I've just finished a missing topics list on WWI biographies based on FirstWorldWar.com if anyone is interested in taking a look. MadMax 23:38, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing topics list

message: Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory.  This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.  B2T2 21:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project directory 

message: There's a discussion on the main talk page about converting the large WWI template into a portal - drop by to leave your opinion! Carom 17:09, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Portal:World War I had been created, and I intend to use it to replace the overly-large WWI template. Unless anyone has any concerns and/or complaints... Carom 18:45, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Converting templates to portals 

message: Hi, I'm currently translating the German article about the WWI general Remus von Woyrsch. The article refers to a certain three-day long "Schlach von Tarnawa", i.e. Battle of Tarnawka, between German and Russian forces. This page tells me it took place from 17-18/9/1914. I'm assuming Tarnawka is the German name for or the German transliteration of the name of some Eastern European town, which is probably known by its Eastern European name or transliterated differently in English. I guess there are two possibilities I found of what the English name of the town could be, either Tarnowka, which is located in Poland, or Trnávka, the name of two towns in Slovakia and one in the Czech Republic, but I couldn't find a reference to a WWI battle for any of those articles. Do any of you know what this mysterious battle might be called in English?--Carabinieri 16:57, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Schlacht von Tarnawka"

message: I've just taken a stab at merging  into the standard .  It's functional, but perhaps a bit too big; any ideas for formatting the links in a more compact manner would be welcome! Kirill Lokshin 19:10, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main campaignbox 

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thread_title: Poison gas in World War I FAR

message: A new editor User:United Prune Corporation has removed various Commonwealth War Graves Commission cemeteries from :category:World War I memorials on the grounds that cemeteries are not memorials. Given that (1) most war cemeteries contain a memorial/monument or two; (2) the tradename for a tomb stone is a memorial stone; (3) that war cemeteries are intended to memorialize the fallen and (4) in the US, war dead are remembered on Memorial Day; is this reasonable? Do we need a separate :category:World War I cemeteries and should, in consequence, 70-80% of the articles appear in both? Roger 17:08, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think a distinct category for cemeteries is a good idea in any case; the real question is whether it should be a sub-category of the memorials one.  I suspect that we need to clearly define the scope of "World War I" cemeteries here; does it include only cemeteries specifically set up for WWI casualties (in which case treating them all as memorials makes sense), or does it also include other cemeteries where such casualties are interred (in which case it probably doesn't)? Kirill Lokshin 17:14, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

text: (after edit conflict) I don't think a separate category is warranted, although there is certainly a case for renaming to :Category:World War I memorials and cemeteries. This would also match the naming scheme for the parent and sisters. However, there is also :Category:Commonwealth War Graves Commission cemeteries, which has a somewhat complex relationship with the by-nation and by-conflict category tree... Carom 17:18, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I too think a joint :Category:World War I memorials and cemeteries would be fine. It avoids much hair-splitting. Out of interest, how do you arrange a renaming? ask one of the friendly neighbourhood admins? Roger 16:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:CFD, unfortunately; our hands are basically tied as far as unilateral category renames are concerned.  (It's not something I personally agree with, but that's neither here nor there.) Kirill Lokshin 16:11, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, what fun! Carom 16:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Although, it's possible that :Category:World War I memorials might qualify for a speedy rename, based on the otherwise consistant naming scheme for the parent and sisters... Carom 16:09, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea: I've nominated :Category:World War I memorials and :Category:World War II memorials for speedy renaming on that basis. (Seemed silly not to do WWII as well while we're at it.)  Roger 19:12, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Speedy rename refused: The admin was very sympathetic and thought this ought to fall under type 4 but didn't at the moment. So the categories are back the normal candidate renaming section. If you have an opinion on this, please express it here. Roger 06:15, 26 May 2007 (UTC)

text: The :Category:Commonwealth War Graves Commission is a different matter. I think that's probably best left exactly as it is for time being. There are 1,700,000 people buried in 2,500 cemeteries in 150 countries spanning numerous conflicts including two world wars. In time, the category will probably grow huge but it's probably too early to say how that should be tackled. Long-term, the :Category:German War Graves Commission will also present similar problems but on a smaller scale. Roger 16:07, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

text: As an aside, since we're blurring the lines between cemeteries and memorials: would it be worthwhile to combine  and  into a single template that could be used on both? Kirill Lokshin 16:15, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Outstanding idea!!! Do we discuss it here? I have some ideas (I've been doing a LOT of cemetery stuff later) based on difficulties with the existing ones  Roger 16:25, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Template talk:Infobox Military Memorial (as that seems to be the broader name) might be the best place to have a discussion if it's going to be an extended one.  Barring any sudden objections, I'm going to simply merge the existing templates such that all the current uses will still work properly; once that's done, we can go ahead and start making additional changes to the (now consolidated) template. Kirill Lokshin 16:27, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The fewer infobox types the better, if you ask me. Carom 16:54, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are cemeteries memorials?