Talk:Zucchetto

message: What is the name of the equivalent worn by Jews, and shouldn't this article link to that? DirkvdM 08:56, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the article you refer to is full of speculations and errors.  I am removing the link. Israeld 17:36, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Sad to see the citation go; I don't see the "speculations" or "errors" in that article, Israeld. You made no mention of what those speculations and errors are, and it looks solid enough to me - aside from which fact, Dieter Philippi of the cited The Philippi Collection recommends the book that grew out of this article[]. Djathinkimacowboy 14:55, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  External link replaced. If someone has a beef with it, the reasons ought to be outlined clearly when the edit to remove it is done. Otherwise it just looks like POV or OR to delete it. I have noted that in my edit summary. Djathinkimacowboy 15:12, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Jewish Headwear

message: "A white zucchetto is worn by Premonstratensian prelates" -- surely all Premoonstratensians, not just (or not at all) prelates (who would probably wear the relevant episcopal or other colour)? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.226.1.229 (talk) 11:18, 23 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Norbertines

message: While technically true, the proposition "popes since John Paul II have kept up this tradition" looks more meaningful than it is, since there has only been one pope since JP2.  The statement makes it (that two consecutive popes have traded zuchetti with visitors) seem more significant than is.  One could diminish the significance (and have the statement be equally true) by saying, "Only two popes have done this," or "Only recently etc."  Someone will ask why I didn't change the sentence myself.  One reason is that I am lazy; it is easier to write why the sentence is problematic than to change it and the surrounding paragraph.  Another reason is "Give a man a fish, etc."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.88.246.84 (talk) 18:44, 8 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, no, you are wrong as anyone who reads papal biographies will know. The first pope of whom we are aware of doing this is Pius XII. In keeping with that tradition and Pius' spirit, the faithful who are brave enough have carried on the tradition - it isn't really in the pope's hands and no pope has ever refused a trade. Your reasoning is not sound. Djathinkimacowboy 15:00, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Misc.

message: is called "violet" or "Church violet", according to the "Code of Canon Law" among other sources. It is technically a shade of amaranth, but that nomenclature is not used for the zucchetto. This article says it is "purple". While that is technically correct as the original Latin is "purpura", it is erroneous in the modern sense. Djathinkimacowboy 02:29, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zucchetto of the bishop... 

message: ...are clearly unsourced in themselves. There is in the cited references all the data required. The zucchetto used to be lined with leather for warmth and reinforcement. Now the entire article has been jeopardised by the editor who reverted the work. So have fun, and abandon hope ye who enter here. Djathinkimacowboy 18:32, 27 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Because I care about this article greatly, I have added what citations I can. For the moment, I can do no more. Come and help make improvements, I invite all. Djathinkimacowboy 10:56, 4 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Seeing how every little edit is going to be deleted otherwise, thus carrying this to the brink of edit warring, I hope my three citations for one sentence will be quite sufficient. As to the rest, citations confirmed and added. I've done enough with this article, and I hope editors lesser acquainted with the subject will be careful with this article henceforth. Djathinkimacowboy 23:56, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Today's edits... 

message: I am seeing the remark "has outfitted seven popes beginning with Pius IX in 1846".  OK, those would be Pius IX (elected 1846), Leo XIII (1878), Pius X (1903), Benedict XV (1914), Pius XI (1922), Pius XII (1939), John XXIII (1958).  Why the reference to "seven popes"?  What about the later popes? (starting with Paul VI, elected 1963)
There was an embarrassing moment involving John XXIII's robes just he was elected in 1958, but that did not involve the zucchetto.
An aide apparently gave him medium-size robes by mistake, although the tailor later said the large size had been made according to the measurements of Angelo Roncalli (new Pope John XXIII).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.94.52.3 (talk) 01:01, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  so what about later popes? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: might be up for assessing this article. Elizium23 (talk) 01:36, 14 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment 

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