Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (years in titles)/Poll2

message: This is a poll regarding the naming conventions of years in titles, and dates in general. --AllyUnion (talk) 09:43, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poll 

message: ==== Use of en dash instead of hyphen ====
* Note: This means that a redirect would be created for using a hyphen.
#Hyphen  Generally, a hyphen is sufficient; I find en dashes somewhat out of place, but there are exceptions (see below).  I will resist em dashes in this context with my last ounce of strength. E Pluribus Anthony 21:39, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of [[hyphen]], [[en dash]], or word 

message: * Note: This means that a redirect would be created for using a hyphen.
#Hyphen  Generally, a hyphen is sufficient; I find en dashes somewhat out of place, but there are exceptions (see below).  I will resist em dashes in this context with my last ounce of strength. E Pluribus Anthony 21:39, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of [[en dash]] instead of hyphen 

message: #Hyphen in heading, word in narration/conjunction Generally use hyphens: the word to should only be used narratively and in conjunction with other words, viz. from – e.g.,  from 1864 to 1901, not from 1864-1901; during the period 1864-1901. E Pluribus Anthony 21:39, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Using the word [[to]] instead of a hyphen 

message: ==== 20 January 2005 ====
Format of: DD MONTHNAME YYYY
#DD MONTHNAME YYYY  Unequivocally; smaller to bigger. E Pluribus Anthony 21:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Format of full dates 

message: Format of: DD MONTHNAME YYYY
#DD MONTHNAME YYYY  Unequivocally; smaller to bigger. E Pluribus Anthony 21:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  20 January 2005 

message: Format of: MONTHNAME DD YYYY
# Support. Actually makes sense, is used, etc. Actually, mostly, it just looks better. Matt Yeager 05:20, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  January 20, 2005 

message: ==== 20 January ====
Format of: DD MONTHNAME
#DD MONTHNAME  Unequivocally; smaller to bigger. E Pluribus Anthony 21:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Format with only day and month 

message: Format of: DD MONTHNAME
#DD MONTHNAME  Unequivocally; smaller to bigger. E Pluribus Anthony 21:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  20 January 

message: Format of: MONTHNAME DD
# Support. Actually makes sense, is used, etc. Actually, mostly, it just looks better. Matt Yeager 05:22, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  January 20 

message: ==== 1888-1889 ====
==== 1888-89 ====
# Support; it just looks better. Matt Yeager 05:22, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date ranges for years 

message: # Support; it just looks better. Matt Yeager 05:22, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  1888-89 

message: #YYY1-2  For this example, this is valid.  However, in ranges where the difference is more marked, the two previous options may be equally valid – e.g., 1864-94, 1864-1901, but not 1864-901.  E Pluribus Anthony 21:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  1888-9 

message: ==== June 20-June 30 ====
==== June 20 - June 30 ====
==== 20 June-30 June ====
==== 20 June - 30 June ====
==== 20-30 June ====
#DD1-DD2 MONTH  Again, include months when they differ – e.g.,  20-30 June, but 20 June-15 August.  Here (since words are included), an en dash would also work – e.g.,  20–30 June, but 20 June–15 August. E Pluribus Anthony 21:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date ranges for months & days 

message: #DD1-DD2 MONTH  Again, include months when they differ – e.g.,  20-30 June, but 20 June-15 August.  Here (since words are included), an en dash would also work – e.g.,  20–30 June, but 20 June–15 August. E Pluribus Anthony 21:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  20-30 June 

message: # Support; clearly the best. Matt Yeager 05:23, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  June 20-30 

message: ==== June 1, 2005-June 30, 2005 ====
==== June 1, 2005 - June 30, 2005 ====
# Support. Claramente. Just looks good. Matt Yeager 05:24, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date ranges for full dates 

message: # Support. Claramente. Just looks good. Matt Yeager 05:24, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  June 1, 2005 - June 30, 2005 

message: Note: This is more internationalised format...
#date1 – date2, or date1–date2  This is my preference (with en dash, spaces); an en dash can also appear in the immediately previous example (without spaces) – e.g., 1 June 2005 – 30 June 2005, 1 June 2005–30 June 2005.  E Pluribus Anthony 21:54, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  1 June 2005 - 30 June 2005 

message: The bolded capitalized letters DATE indicates one of the date formats above or date ranges above.
==== A comma ====
Like:
* U.S. presidential election, 2000
* U.S. presidency, 2000 - 2004
* Tropical storm season, 10 June 2005 - 15 June 2005
Issues (as cited before): Hard to use in a sentence, good title structure, but difficult to use in an article.
Possible solution(s): Redirect a proper titled link that is usable in a sentence to this preferred title
==== Parenthesis ====
Like:
* U.S. presidential election (2000)
* U.S. presidency (2000 - 2004)
* Tropical storm season (10 June 2005 - 15 June 2005)
Possible problem: A pipe (|) would cause the date to disappear, making EVENT NAME (DATE) to appear as EVENT NAME; So, U.S. presidential election (2000) and U.S. presidential election (2004) with a pipe would display as U.S. presidential election.
#Parenthesis My general preference; as a secondary, commas may also do ... particularly when one or only a few subtitles in an article include a date range. Note – as above: I think Tropical storm season (June 2005) (without day numbers) is appropriate in this example.  In any case, redirects can be used.  E Pluribus Anthony 22:26, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Event format 

message: Like:
* U.S. presidential election (2000)
* U.S. presidency (2000 - 2004)
* Tropical storm season (10 June 2005 - 15 June 2005)
Possible problem: A pipe (|) would cause the date to disappear, making EVENT NAME (DATE) to appear as EVENT NAME; So, U.S. presidential election (2000) and U.S. presidential election (2004) with a pipe would display as U.S. presidential election.
#Parenthesis My general preference; as a secondary, commas may also do ... particularly when one or only a few subtitles in an article include a date range. Note – as above: I think Tropical storm season (June 2005) (without day numbers) is appropriate in this example.  In any case, redirects can be used.  E Pluribus Anthony 22:26, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parenthesis 

message: Like:
* U.S. presidential election of 2000
* U.S. presidency of 2000 - 2004
* Tropical storm season of 10 June 2005 - 15 June 2005
* U.S. presidency of 2000 to 2004
* Tropical storm season of 10 June 2005 to 15 June 2005
# Support Oh, now this looks nice. It's grammatical, how you'd actually say stuff, etc. Matt Yeager 05:27, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  of