Talk:Congress of Gniezno

message: I don't understand why it is supposed to be deleted. It is the main event in history of Poland, between 966 and 1138.
:Well, it's a little cryptic to people who are not familiar with Polish history -- the article needs quite a bit of expansion, for example, to explain
*where is the tomb of Saint Adalbert?
*why did those monarchs meet there?
*what did they discuss? (if they discussed anything, for all we know they could have had a fight!)
*what was the outcome of the meeting?
:-- Arwel 23:25, 17 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old discussion 

message: The title of the article is awkward.  Is there a better historical name for the meeting, such as Congress of Gniezno (which I've seen somewhere), to which we can move the article? I see that Meeting in Gniezno is a redirect, but it's not much better. Appleseed 22:23, 5 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: * The Congress
* Imperial crown
* St. Adalbert
* Gniezno Cathedral
* Matejko's 1025 Coronation
Appleseed (Talk) 16:21, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images to add 

message: I added some NPOV to the article. Also Polans is no longer applicable since Poland was created in 966.There was a mistake since Cyril was the first Slavic saint not Adalbert. Additionally there were unsourced claims that were judgmental, and this is against neutrality of Wikipedia.--Molobo (talk) 09:40, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cyril was a Slav? With that theory, you are all alone I fear. Also, I urge you to not change the meaning of sourced informations. Skäpperöd (talk) 15:28, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cyril was the first Slavic saintSlavic Scriptures: The Formation of the Church Slavonic Version of the Holy BibleAuthor Henry R. Cooper  Fairleigh Dickinson Univ Press, 2003 page 51. Ethnic groups are based on culture and identity not on 'blood' so to speak and thus he is regarding as such. Also there is a lot of information here unsourced that you restored. And for neutrality sake it should be Poland not "duchy of Polan"(whatever that means), since Poland was an independent realm seperate from HRE, although HRE wanted it to become a duchy.--Molobo (talk) 15:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe you discuss the Cyril issue at the Cyrill article. Skäpperöd (talk) 15:47, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not interested in that article but this one. Thank you.--Molobo (talk) 15:58, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well if you want to state here that Cyril was a Slav and the well sourced Saint Cyril article states he was a Greek, you need to discuss this issue there first, and if you gain consensus there that Cyril indeed was a Slav you may introduce this information here. For the "independency of Poland" issue: Neither was she part of the HRE, nor was she "independent" in the means of continously noone's vassal. Skäpperöd (talk) 16:08, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not interested in ethnic debates, one can be of many cultures and identities. You information though is incorrect(mind you just like the rest from the unknown German author). Glad that you agree to name Poland in the article. Of course it never was a a vassal of HRE, since its rulers had no control over it, and Polish rulers used their existance to further their own political means, while tricking the HRE rulers into no-binding oatsh which they broke when it fitted them.--Molobo (talk) 16:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you mistrust a source, take it to the RS board. Skäpperöd (talk) 16:40, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes 

message: Correcting the incorrect information posted by Molobo
Bishopric of Poznań couldn't 'stay' with Madgeburg, since it was created earlier then the one of Madgeburg and was central Bishopric of Poland till the Congress.--
::Sorry what debate ? Bishopric of Poznań was created in 966, Bishopric of Magdeburg was created in 967. Till 1000 it was a seperate diocese.  User:Molobo|Molobo]]
Archbishopric of Magdeburg was planned in 955 upon Battle of the Lechfeld and founded in 967/968.
Posen/Bishopric of Poznan was founded in 968 and not earlier than the one of Magdeburg. The Posen/Poznan bishopric was attached to, put under the jurisdiction of the archdiocese Magdeburg in 970. In 1133 it was stillverified as being under the jurisdiction of archdiocese Magdeburg.
An Observer (71.137.197.97 (talk) 04:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concerning the Incorrect Info above