Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Mortal Kombat/Archive 3

message: Hi there, I borrowed some source code from another template and modified the Mortal Kombat project tag, but I don't wanna change the current one until I have your approval, what do you whink? The first tag is the original as it is now. --Wesborland 18:29, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Adding assessments to the MK articles is a goal of mine, but there needs to be a bit more work done than just making a change to the template. EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:05, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I was just asking if you agreed we should start rating the quality of all MK-related articles. That way it's easier for everyone to know which articles need more attention. --Wesborland 20:51, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

text: It's a good thing to do, but I don't think you should be handing out ratings until we've actually reviewed the articles here. Unless, of course, you default all of them to Start-class, since they can only improve from there. VirogIt's notmy fault! 03:27, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New project tag? 

message: User Jonny2x4 has suggested that the following articles be merged:
*Ultimate MK3 and MK Trilogy into MK3.
*MK Gold into MK4.
*MK: Unchained into MK: Deception.
Since each case covers similar ground, I've redirected all the merge tags to this topic for discussion. RobWill80 04:05, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that enough time has passed for everyone to have their say. So, if there are no objections, I'll start making appropriate changes shortly. There was no support for merging MK Trilogy into MK3, and there were no objections to merging Unchained into Deception, so I'll sort those out now. RobWill80 18:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Simply declaring that UMK3 and MKT is MK3 with new characters and backgrounds is far oversimplifying the situation. As I mentioned before, looking at UMK3's role, it was made not simply to be an update to MK3, but to completely replace it. There is almost no trace left of the original MK3 around today, and indeed even Midway is continuing this trend by choosing to repackage and release UMK3 on modern consoles (Armageddon and Xbox Live) rather than its predecessor. Between the two games, any sort of serious competitive or tournament play is done solely on UMK3. Also, if you check the UMK3 article, you'll see that info on another game, MK Advance, has already been merged into that article. If this merge were to happen, then Advance would be included as well, so it would be like including three very separate and individual games in only one article (And that's not even considering MKT yet). Again, UMK3 has become far more than, if not entirely superceded, MK3.Then there's the case of MKT. Right now, the proposal is to merge it with MK3. However, it has very little to do with MK3 in comparison to its more direct relation with UMK3 (And if the latter was decided not to be merged, it would make little sense to merge MKT into the former).  Despite this, I would not believe that MKT should be merged into UMK3 either. The two have little in common. How is this, you ask? Well, looking at all this from a general viewpoint, these are all fighting games first and foremost. Their main aspects are to provide a level field of competition between two players. In this respect, when looking at the fighters and gameplay in terms of being balanced and fair, MKT is the total laughing stock of the series. It is notorious for being glitch-laden, bug filled, and "broken" (Example: view this page and look for the word "broken" and see what it is most commonly applied to). MKT's similarities to MK3 and UMK3 are mostly superficial. Gameplay-wise, while the mechanics are similar, MKT is in a league of its own. It is simply not comparable to either MK3 or UMK3, and certainly it is not taken seriously on a competitive level, although it is only one step up from the game that is. MKT was not meant to be a simple extension from a previous title; it is the anthology that is supposed to include "everything" at the fair expense of balanced gameplay. MarphyBlack 17:51, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well in that case, I'll say leave Mortal Kombat Trilogy alone for the time being. However, I don't see your reasoning that UMK3, being an upgrade of MK3 designed to replace it, should be covered separately. If anything, it adds to my argument. Most upgraded versions of games are usually meant to be superimpose/replace the originals with their added features instead of merely supplement them. Hence, companies try to avoid redundancy by promoting the upgraded versions of their games rather than the originals. From what I understood, Mortal Kombat Advance is just another name for UMK3 than a separate game (in the same way  Final Fight One is a GBA port of Final Fight), since it's just the SNES UMK3 ported to GBA. Eliminating the MKA infobox and completely merging the info with the text seems downright preferable Jonny2x4 19:37, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I think some proper research going into the MK Gold article would probably render the merge proposal moot. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Correction, Marphy. Four characters taken straight out of Deadly Alliance (Frost, Jax, Kitana, and Blaze) The S 20:31, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed merger of updates

message: *Do not merge – I highly disagree with both of these particular propositions. Although UMK3 spawned from MK3, and MKT from UMK3, each are more than separate enough to warrant their own articles. In the case of UMK3, its existence is almost to entirely replace the role of its predecessor. Although seemingly a simple upgrade with a few new characters and stages, it has grown to become its own complete entity. That is why UMK3 is currently being made available on Xbox Live and included with the special editions of Armageddon and not the original MK3. As for MKT, this is even more farfetched than the UMK3 proposal. As its name implies, it is indeed a compilation of content from all the games in the trilogy. Almost all of the new content is taken straight from MKII and the original MK (While it has exclusive Johnny Cage sprites, this is a character absent from both MK3 and UMK3). While some may view the game as UMK3 just with past game content, the two are still far from comparable. MKT is the first MK game to primarily be a console/home system only game rather than anything arcade based. And if nothing else, it would be fairly absurd to merge both UMK3 and MKT into MK3's article. There is simply far too much information on each individual title, and they would all eventually have to split into three articles once again. MarphyBlack 05:16, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Simply declaring that UMK3 and MKT is MK3 with new characters and backgrounds is far oversimplifying the situation. As I mentioned before, looking at UMK3's role, it was made not simply to be an update to MK3, but to completely replace it. There is almost no trace left of the original MK3 around today, and indeed even Midway is continuing this trend by choosing to repackage and release UMK3 on modern consoles (Armageddon and Xbox Live) rather than its predecessor. Between the two games, any sort of serious competitive or tournament play is done solely on UMK3. Also, if you check the UMK3 article, you'll see that info on another game, MK Advance, has already been merged into that article. If this merge were to happen, then Advance would be included as well, so it would be like including three very separate and individual games in only one article (And that's not even considering MKT yet). Again, UMK3 has become far more than, if not entirely superceded, MK3.Then there's the case of MKT. Right now, the proposal is to merge it with MK3. However, it has very little to do with MK3 in comparison to its more direct relation with UMK3 (And if the latter was decided not to be merged, it would make little sense to merge MKT into the former).  Despite this, I would not believe that MKT should be merged into UMK3 either. The two have little in common. How is this, you ask? Well, looking at all this from a general viewpoint, these are all fighting games first and foremost. Their main aspects are to provide a level field of competition between two players. In this respect, when looking at the fighters and gameplay in terms of being balanced and fair, MKT is the total laughing stock of the series. It is notorious for being glitch-laden, bug filled, and "broken" (Example: view this page and look for the word "broken" and see what it is most commonly applied to). MKT's similarities to MK3 and UMK3 are mostly superficial. Gameplay-wise, while the mechanics are similar, MKT is in a league of its own. It is simply not comparable to either MK3 or UMK3, and certainly it is not taken seriously on a competitive level, although it is only one step up from the game that is. MKT was not meant to be a simple extension from a previous title; it is the anthology that is supposed to include "everything" at the fair expense of balanced gameplay. MarphyBlack 17:51, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well in that case, I'll say leave Mortal Kombat Trilogy alone for the time being. However, I don't see your reasoning that UMK3, being an upgrade of MK3 designed to replace it, should be covered separately. If anything, it adds to my argument. Most upgraded versions of games are usually meant to be superimpose/replace the originals with their added features instead of merely supplement them. Hence, companies try to avoid redundancy by promoting the upgraded versions of their games rather than the originals. From what I understood, Mortal Kombat Advance is just another name for UMK3 than a separate game (in the same way  Final Fight One is a GBA port of Final Fight), since it's just the SNES UMK3 ported to GBA. Eliminating the MKA infobox and completely merging the info with the text seems downright preferable Jonny2x4 19:37, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ''UMK3'' and ''MKT'' into ''MK3''

message: *Do not merge – This is a peculiar case. While Gold seems identical to MK4 in all aspects except for some new characters and stages, MK4 (including the home console ports) received all around positive reviews, while Gold was torn apart by just about every media outlet and received uniformly negative reviews. Along with Special Forces and the GBA game MK Advance, Gold has gained a reputation for being one of the biggest embarrassments in the entire game franchise. Also, like MKT, it is one of the last console-exclusive games before Midway abandoned the arcade market entirely. I believe that there is enough scrutiny surrounding this title (including the mysterious Belokk, the misprinted strategy guide bios, the not-yet-mentioned little known version 2.0 revision of the game ) to make it worthy of its own article. MarphyBlack 05:16, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think some proper research going into the MK Gold article would probably render the merge proposal moot. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 05:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ''MK Gold'' into ''MK4''

message: *May as well Merge this one – This is the only merge proposal that I can agree with. Unchained is literally nothing more than Deception with three characters taken straight out of Deadly Alliance included (Completely unaltered, hence lacking hara-kiris, second fatalities, etc) and one new game mode added in. MarphyBlack 05:16, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Correction, Marphy. Four characters taken straight out of Deadly Alliance (Frost, Jax, Kitana, and Blaze) The S 20:31, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Unchained'' into ''Deception''

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 17:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: A new stub article called Mortal Kombat: 8 was created a few days ago, and a link was added to the navbox template . The link was removed a short time later , but the article hasn't been nominated for deletion.
I was going to nominate the article myself, but I thought that I should ask first. There may be a good reason why it wasn't nominated, and it looks like it was created in good faith. Personally, I think that it's too early for an article or a stub. Any thoughts? RobWill80 18:54, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be deleted (in my opinion). Nothing but love for its creation, but there simply isn't a single development about MK8, and Wikipedia is not a crystal ball (which I'm almost sure will be mentioned in its eventual AfD). EVula // talk // ☯ // 19:34, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay. I've nominated it for deletion (here), so we'll see how it goes. RobWill80 02:53, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh my god again? How many MK8 articles have been created so far?--Wesborland 15:11, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are five that I'm aware of: this one, as well as MK8:reunion, MK8, Mortal Kombat: Destroyer and Mortal Kombat: Destruction. RobWill80 16:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New MK8 article: delete or keep? 

message: Midway has released some Official bios for the kombatants in MKA; linking the storyline between MKD and MKA. here  ---SilentRAGE! 02:29, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Should we rewrite those before using them? I believe Wikipedia has a policy against copyvio--Wesborland 15:13, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Most definitely. Both bios (Kenshi and Sareena) were reworded before being added. EVula // talk // ☯ // 15:34, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I vote we wait until someone's bio is out until we add Armageddon bio info to their page (I.E. no adding Armageddon bio info to Raiden, Liu Kang, Kung Lao, or Johnny Cage's pages despite the four of them being mentioned in Fujin's bio) The S 17:36, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoa, I didn't realize Fujin (Mortal Kombat)'s was out as well. At any rate, I agree; any piecing we may try to do on the bio front will just be speculation. EVula // talk // ☯ // 17:56, 5 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with The S. Just to avoid any confusion and possible contradictions in storyline. I bet that there may be some, as Vogel (or whomever) is writing up 60+ bios.  ---SilentRAGE! 10:34, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some bios are out! 

message: :Image:Sektor.JPG is currently orphaned, and will get axed in a few days. Sektor seems to be doing just fine on images without this particular one; is there anywhere else that it might be useful? EVula // talk // ☯ // 16:03, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I'd say there is little use for it. I mean, before Armageddon came out, it was treated as gold dust as a screenshot from the upcoming game and our first look at Sektor. Now we have pictures that are of so much better quality and don't have part of the character select screen cut into it. Compared to other pictures across the MK pages, it looks pretty ugly, and, as you said, the Sektor article doesn't really need it, and I can't possibly think of another use for it over the MK articles. ≈ The Haunted Angel (The Forest Whispers My Name) 18:34, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any use for this image? 

message: Should a link to this card game be added to The Mortal Kombat Universe sandbox since it heavily features Mortal Kombat characters and settings? Seth0708 22:34, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Epic Battles]] 

message: New members may introduce themselves here.
* It's me MotaroG0d from MKOnline. Let's drive back the liars! My display name is Jordan567 by the way.
* I've done an obnoxious amount of work on many MK related articles, so I might as well join in. Buzda 05:53, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Member Introduction

message: Template:Mortal Kombat series/sandbox#RobWill80's second adjustments is acceptible to me, although I'd probably make some cosmetic adjustments (like doing something about the abbreviations). - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:06, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought we had got over that flawed abbreviation guideline. Besides, whoever maintains the Grand Theft Auto templates appears to think that it's fine to use them, and MK and GTA are used in more or less the same way (e.g. extensive in-game use; also used as logos for some of their titles). RobWill80 00:00, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was planning to expand the abbreviation. Is that acceptable? (Also, we can go ahead with the current version, as far as I'm concerned, while we discuss this.) - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 06:34, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't mind if you expand the abbreviations, but I don't think it's necessary. I suppose you can use the templates now, as long as no-one else objects. RobWill80 20:46, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Resolving the template issue

message: Speaking as a third party, who hasn't been a part of this lengthy debate what-so-ever up until now, I felt the need to chime in with some thoughts. I hope that whoever has the power to make things happen around here, will read them with an open mind, and consider what I'm saying fairly...
Last year, between January and October, from the announcement of Mortal Kombat Armageddon, all the way up to its release, I was visiting all the MK wiki pages frequently. Games, characters, all of them. I frequently read them, frequently looked to them for info, and sometimes you may even note an edit or two from my ip address on some of them. That said, all the bickering aside, all the opinions of what's redundant and what's not aside, and all the who's article is relevant to who's aside, as just your general every day user, I think the changes that have been made to the navbox were incredibly stupid. (For lack of a more eloquent term.)
I used to think all the Mortal Kombat articles, as a set, were some of the best kept articles on the entire wikipedia website. Period. The navbox put any relevant article you could possibly need just a click away. Every article had a standardized look, you could easily jump to any page you wanted from any other page, all the links you needed were in the same spot. It was fast, it was efficient, it was perfect. The "streamlining" of the navbox, in recent months, I feel, has robbed every article in this Mortal Kombat "set" of that, and knocked them all 5 steps backward.
Now, the navbox has become so overly simplified, that it's close to useless. Where at one point I could jump straight from one article to another, now I might have to piggyback across links  in 6 different pages to get to the place I want to get to. NOT TO MENTION, that the navbox isn't even consistently displayed on every article anymore. Some of them have a few links at the bottom instead, some have different navboxes, some have nothing at all, they're just dead-ends.
Certainly, with the old navbox, there would be some hiccups of redundancy or mis-communication. No, someone like Kabal wasn't featured in MK2, I'm aware, but Mortal Kombat's story, over 7 regular games and several side games, has become a fairly elaborate tapestry. I don't believe its as black and white as its being made out to be anymore. Some characters have been woven into the past, plots of some of the old games have been cast in a new light by details revealed in new games. And as of Armageddon, every main character, in every game, has at least a passing tie to the other characters. There are dozens of threads of thought that would lead one from one article to another, that aren't necessarily as simple as "This guy was in this game" and "This guy wasn't."
For instance, lets say, at some point, something I would read in Onaga's article, would make me want to double check something in Mileena's article. Some plot detail I wasn't sure of. Before, it was a simple matter of scrolling to the bottom, and clicking, "Mileena." Now, I either have to run a search on Mileena, and find the page myself, jump back to the MK Deception article and scan for a link to Mileena,  scan Onaga's article top to bottom and see if I can find a link to Mileena on his page, or find my way to the character list and goto her page through it. It seems in trying to make the process of navigation more simple, and less redundant, it's just become more annoyingly complex, and difficult. You’ve removed an efficient tool, and added unpredictable steps to what used to be an easy job.
And frankly, I don't see what was so obtrusive about the original navbox. It was 3 inches at the bottom of every page, what’s the big deal? It's not as if it wove into the middle of them all and became a huge eyesore. And, it used to be yellow and red, which made it quick and easy to find, because it stood out against wiki’s blue/grey/white tones. Being those same blues greys and whites, the new navbox gets lost with the body of the article, and is barely noticeable, if it's even on a particular page at all.
So at the end of the day, I'm wondering... who spearheaded this nonsensical change... and what in god's name does one have to do around here to get it undone? Is there someone out there with the brass, the patience, and the authority to make these articles functional again. To make them the most awesomely well-maintained articles on wikipedia? Or are they doomed to get hacked up, minimized, and sabotaged into oblivion, until they’re ultimately so obscure and useless that they get removed completely, like so many other articles?
In short, I'd love it if the old box came back, with character links, bold colors, and a nicer layout. But at the ABSOLUTE least, could someone PLEASE take the dang time to add the box to every article, so there's at least some sense of organization again?—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.201.225.126 (talk) 05:24, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: An outside opinion on the Navbox changes

message: has deleted pretty much everything in the article about Mortal Kombat: Devastation claiming that it didn't have any reliable sources and that unless it is re-written from scratch within a week he'll put it on AfD. I don't want to start an edit war on that article again so I thought I should let you know about it. --Wesborland 17:01, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mortal Kombat: Devastation 

message: A centralized discussion is relevant to the appearance of many of this project's guidelines. Anyone interested is invited to participate. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops) 07:40, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video game navbox discussion 

message: Is anyone interested in starting a newsletter for the project? Sign below. --~ ~ James Hetfield (previously Wesborland) ~ ~ 00:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mortal Kombat Newsletter 

message: I am proposing the merging and deleting of several Mortal Kombat articles. However, do not fear; my intention is not to wipe away useful information. My hope is that these changes can condense several articles into more appropriate places, thus reducing redundancy, making editing and watching over these articles less overwhelming, cutting down on the potential for OR and/or cruft, and removing a few unnecessary bits as well. Individual rationales are below. I encourage others to comment. (Oh, and if someone can think of a better way to format this whole list, please do so.) MarphyBlack 00:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead with some of these as there was no opposition. I've struck out the titles of the finished proposals and included the results below. The main changes can be seen at Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance, Mortal Kombat: Deception, and Mortal Kombat: Armageddon. The few I haven't got to will either take a little more effort or might require a bit more discussion before deciding the final course of action. MarphyBlack 08:20, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

text: *The "Test Your Might" minigame also appears in Shaolin Monks. Anyway, my reasoning for proposing to merge this into the main MK series article is that the phrase "Test Your Might" has become somewhat synonymous with the entire series rather than just the few games it appeared in, mainly because of that famous song Techno Syndrome. Similarly, the "MORTAL KOMBAT!!!" cry also came from this one song and soon became synonymous with the series, despite never occurring in any of the games themselves (At least until the opening cinematic of Shaolin Monks). Anyway, I'm not too concerned where specifically the "Test Your Might" information gets merged to. I could go either way. MarphyBlack 23:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Sorry, I forgot about Shaolin Monks. I recognise the song you mentioned and its connection to the series, but the "test your might" sound clip reminds me more of the first game than the song (or the series). That may only be my opinion, so do what you think is best. RobWill80 01:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: *I'm a bit iffy on this one. Per Wikipedia naming conventions, we should be using the subject's most common name. Although his full name "Major Jackson Briggs" has been used before, and I'm sure "Jax Briggs" by itself has been used a time or two, the character is most commonly known and referred to simply as "Jax". Sonya Blade and Kurtis Stryker are actually the articles that are not currently following the standard naming convention. It seems Stryker's article was created using his full name since Stryker was already taken. Sonya's article was created by an anonymous ip (Back when they could do that!), so it's likely the person didn't know any better (Sonya seems to have only been recently created, so there was no reason not to simply use that article name at the time until someone pointed out the conflict). I would vote to move the two articles to Sonya (Mortal Kombat) and Stryker (Mortal Kombat) respectively, but that would seem to be a more significant change than everything else. I'm just focusing on the comparitively simple stuff for now. :) MarphyBlack 23:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be happy with moving Sonya's and Stryker's articles. It just seemed weird using different naming conventions, and moving one article would've been a lot easier! I forgot all about guidelines (I think we've had quite enough of one in particular...). No problem. If no objections are raised, I'll take care of it. :) RobWill80 01:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed with MarphyBlack, since this has been done on Street Fighter articles also. They are more commonly known as Sonya and Stryker, while mostly MK fans know their full names. They should be Sonya (Mortal Kombat) and Stryker (Mortal Kombat), like in Jax's case. Master Spider 16:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, since no objections were made, I'll move Sonya's and Stryker's articles shortly. RobWill80 13:32, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just chiming in with a very minor two cents, but do we want to consider changing "Johnny Cage" to "Cage (Mortal Kombat)" as well? Personally, I don't mind either way really, since he's been inconsistantly refered too by both his full name and just his last name (kinda as if it were a "codename") from game to game... since he is sometimes refered too in-game, and even in his health bar as the full "Johnny Cage" I really don't mind either way on this one, but he's also sometimes (and was originally) just refered too as "Cage" so I just think "Cage (Mortal Kombat)" would bring him more in line with the precident that ya'll have been discussing for Sonya, Jax & Stryker. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.201.225.126 (talk) 21:01, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It may just be me, but I think the character is more commonly known by his full name. I think it's fine the way it is. RobWill80 03:43, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, Johnny Cage should definatly stay as it is. I am opposed to moving Jax (Mortal Kombat) to his full name, and I think Stryker should just be Stryker (Mortal Kombat). Sonya, I could go either way about. It just seems whether their surnames (or forenames) are that well known - mostly when you select a character on the game it just says "Stryker", for example, not "Kurtis Stryker". ≈ The Haunted Angel 08:15, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, that's a little bit strange, isn't it? All other characters like Johnny Cage are listed with their full names and Sonya Blade not? No other person is named Sonya Blade. I'd be totally satisfied if the main article of Sonya (Mortal Kombat) would be changed to Sonya Blade. But it is your Wiki. I'm forceless to rename the main article of Sonya. Spinkanini 15:00, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Per Wikipedia naming conventions, we should be using the subject's most common name. For example, although there is no other Dwayne Johnson, the wrestler/actor/entertainer person's article is located at The Rock. In the MK games, Johnny Cage is always referred to using his full name. (Listen to the announcer). Sonya, on the other hand, is just about always referred by to her first name only. (Again, listen to the announcer.) Anyone searching using the term "Sonya Blade" will still get to the right article. However, she is most commonly known by her first name only, and that is due to the particular convention the games follow. MarphyBlack 00:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah, but if you wanna hear my opinion, Sonya Blade for the main article of Sonya looks better. Cheers, Spinkanini 09:26, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed article merges and deletions 

message: ==== Konquest (Mortal Kombat) ====
Article information was Merged.
* Merge Konquest (Mortal Kombat) into Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance, Mortal Kombat: Deception, and Mortal Kombat: Armageddon, respectively — This article has bugged me for a while. It tries to describe three radically different game modes although it introduces it as only one. I think this also contains a lot of game guide-esque information as well as unnecessarily detailed retellings of the plot, which are somewhat redundant since these same stories should be covered in the relevant game articles (The main plot and Konquest mode are certainly tied together). Also, merging this article to the appropriate game article would do wonders to adding some prose to said game articles, which as of now are mostly made up of lists. MarphyBlack 00:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *The "Test Your Might" minigame also appears in Shaolin Monks. Anyway, my reasoning for proposing to merge this into the main MK series article is that the phrase "Test Your Might" has become somewhat synonymous with the entire series rather than just the few games it appeared in, mainly because of that famous song Techno Syndrome. Similarly, the "MORTAL KOMBAT!!!" cry also came from this one song and soon became synonymous with the series, despite never occurring in any of the games themselves (At least until the opening cinematic of Shaolin Monks). Anyway, I'm not too concerned where specifically the "Test Your Might" information gets merged to. I could go either way. MarphyBlack 23:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Sorry, I forgot about Shaolin Monks. I recognise the song you mentioned and its connection to the series, but the "test your might" sound clip reminds me more of the first game than the song (or the series). That may only be my opinion, so do what you think is best. RobWill80 01:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merges 

message: Article information was Merged.
* Merge Konquest (Mortal Kombat) into Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance, Mortal Kombat: Deception, and Mortal Kombat: Armageddon, respectively — This article has bugged me for a while. It tries to describe three radically different game modes although it introduces it as only one. I think this also contains a lot of game guide-esque information as well as unnecessarily detailed retellings of the plot, which are somewhat redundant since these same stories should be covered in the relevant game articles (The main plot and Konquest mode are certainly tied together). Also, merging this article to the appropriate game article would do wonders to adding some prose to said game articles, which as of now are mostly made up of lists. MarphyBlack 00:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
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Konquest (Mortal Kombat)
 

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* Merge Krypt into Mortal Kombat: Deadly Alliance, Mortal Kombat: Deception, and Mortal Kombat: Armageddon, respectively — Same as the above, basically. Few articles even link to this article. MarphyBlack 00:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
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Krypt
 

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* Merge Cryomancers into List of Mortal Kombat species — Fine example of cruft if I've ever seen it. There's definitely no need to list all these fatalities and moves. Plus, plenty of speculation abound (I've done a bit of searching for info on the Cryomancers in the games, and oddly enough there's almost nothing revealed about them). MarphyBlack 00:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
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Cryomancers
 

message: * Merge Test Your Might into Mortal Kombat (series) — There's already a merge proposal on the page, but I thought I would throw this in here as well just to point it out. Test Your Might is a semi-important minigame in a few of the MK titles, but it really doesn't need its own article. Cut the game guide information out (Specifically, the point values) and we'll have a small enough section that's ideal for merging. MarphyBlack 00:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *The "Test Your Might" minigame also appears in Shaolin Monks. Anyway, my reasoning for proposing to merge this into the main MK series article is that the phrase "Test Your Might" has become somewhat synonymous with the entire series rather than just the few games it appeared in, mainly because of that famous song Techno Syndrome. Similarly, the "MORTAL KOMBAT!!!" cry also came from this one song and soon became synonymous with the series, despite never occurring in any of the games themselves (At least until the opening cinematic of Shaolin Monks). Anyway, I'm not too concerned where specifically the "Test Your Might" information gets merged to. I could go either way. MarphyBlack 23:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Sorry, I forgot about Shaolin Monks. I recognise the song you mentioned and its connection to the series, but the "test your might" sound clip reminds me more of the first game than the song (or the series). That may only be my opinion, so do what you think is best. RobWill80 01:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Test Your Might 

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* Merge Kamidogu into Mortal Kombat: Deception —  The Kamidogu were introduced, used, and then promptly destroyed all in the course of this one game. Indeed, it has already been pointed out in this article's discussion page that it should probably be merged as they may not have any important role in future games. Well, come Armageddon, the Kamidogu didn't. The article is small but sufficiently useful enough to merge where it's most relevant. MarphyBlack 00:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
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Kamidogu
 

message: * Merge Chaosrealm, Earthrealm, Edenia, Heaven (Mortal Kombat), Netherealm, Nexus (Mortal Kombat), Orderrealm, Outworld, Void (Mortal Kombat), and Zaterra into List of Mortal Kombat realms — No doubt the largest merge proposal. All of these realm articles appear to be short stubs with a lot of speculation, lists, and cruft added onto them in order to artifically inflate the article's length. The "Relationship with other realms" sections are largely redundant with one another (i.e. Chaosrealm hates Orderrealm, Orderrealm hates Chaosrealm). The "Native species" sections are also redundant when considering List of Mortal Kombat species. "Notable residents" is POV and most likely original research. ("Residents" would leave me to believe that this is describing where characters are currently residing, although Armageddon would seem to indicate that everyone is currently in Edenia.) I believe that all this content would be perfectly suited to a well-written list article without losing anything significant from their parent articles. Also, placing all of this information in a list means that people wouldn't be encouraged to create something along the lines of Vampire Realm. MarphyBlack 00:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Realm" articles 

message: ==== Soulnado ====
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* Delete Soulnado — Highly unnecessary to have an entire article based around this one small phenomenon in the games. The Soulnado has little significance other than transporting Scorpion to the Heavens. Otherwise, it's just a cool background decoration (But that alone isn't enough to merit a whole article). MarphyBlack 00:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletions 

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* Delete Soulnado — Highly unnecessary to have an entire article based around this one small phenomenon in the games. The Soulnado has little significance other than transporting Scorpion to the Heavens. Otherwise, it's just a cool background decoration (But that alone isn't enough to merit a whole article). MarphyBlack 00:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
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* Delete Koin — Somewhat self-explanatory. The meaning of a "Koin" can be explained in one sentence. Certainly not worthy of an article by itself. MarphyBlack 00:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
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Koin
 

message: * Delete The Mortal Kombat storyline — This is probably the most controversial proposal. I simply cannot see what can be done to this article. It's everything Wikipedia is not, particularly with respect to writing about fiction. It's only real function is to serve as one big collection for all of the story information that is spread throughout all the games. While I can see why this would be useful, this simply does not justify an article. Little here seems to follow regular Wiki convention or style. If someone can come up with an idea of what to do with this article, go for it, but I don't see much hope for it. MarphyBlack 00:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Mortal Kombat storyline 

message: ==== Jax (Mortal Kombat) ====
Sonya Blade and Kurtis Stryker articles were Moved to Sonya (Mortal Kombat) and Stryker (Mortal Kombat), respectively.
*Since we're in the mood for change, I'd like to add this: Move Jax (Mortal Kombat) to Jax Briggs — Just to follow the naming convention that we've been using for other character articles, in using their full name in the title (Sonya Blade, Kurtis Stryker, etc.). RobWill80 14:21, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *I'm a bit iffy on this one. Per Wikipedia naming conventions, we should be using the subject's most common name. Although his full name "Major Jackson Briggs" has been used before, and I'm sure "Jax Briggs" by itself has been used a time or two, the character is most commonly known and referred to simply as "Jax". Sonya Blade and Kurtis Stryker are actually the articles that are not currently following the standard naming convention. It seems Stryker's article was created using his full name since Stryker was already taken. Sonya's article was created by an anonymous ip (Back when they could do that!), so it's likely the person didn't know any better (Sonya seems to have only been recently created, so there was no reason not to simply use that article name at the time until someone pointed out the conflict). I would vote to move the two articles to Sonya (Mortal Kombat) and Stryker (Mortal Kombat) respectively, but that would seem to be a more significant change than everything else. I'm just focusing on the comparitively simple stuff for now. :) MarphyBlack 23:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be happy with moving Sonya's and Stryker's articles. It just seemed weird using different naming conventions, and moving one article would've been a lot easier! I forgot all about guidelines (I think we've had quite enough of one in particular...). No problem. If no objections are raised, I'll take care of it. :) RobWill80 01:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed with MarphyBlack, since this has been done on Street Fighter articles also. They are more commonly known as Sonya and Stryker, while mostly MK fans know their full names. They should be Sonya (Mortal Kombat) and Stryker (Mortal Kombat), like in Jax's case. Master Spider 16:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, since no objections were made, I'll move Sonya's and Stryker's articles shortly. RobWill80 13:32, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just chiming in with a very minor two cents, but do we want to consider changing "Johnny Cage" to "Cage (Mortal Kombat)" as well? Personally, I don't mind either way really, since he's been inconsistantly refered too by both his full name and just his last name (kinda as if it were a "codename") from game to game... since he is sometimes refered too in-game, and even in his health bar as the full "Johnny Cage" I really don't mind either way on this one, but he's also sometimes (and was originally) just refered too as "Cage" so I just think "Cage (Mortal Kombat)" would bring him more in line with the precident that ya'll have been discussing for Sonya, Jax & Stryker. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.201.225.126 (talk) 21:01, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It may just be me, but I think the character is more commonly known by his full name. I think it's fine the way it is. RobWill80 03:43, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, Johnny Cage should definatly stay as it is. I am opposed to moving Jax (Mortal Kombat) to his full name, and I think Stryker should just be Stryker (Mortal Kombat). Sonya, I could go either way about. It just seems whether their surnames (or forenames) are that well known - mostly when you select a character on the game it just says "Stryker", for example, not "Kurtis Stryker". ≈ The Haunted Angel 08:15, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, that's a little bit strange, isn't it? All other characters like Johnny Cage are listed with their full names and Sonya Blade not? No other person is named Sonya Blade. I'd be totally satisfied if the main article of Sonya (Mortal Kombat) would be changed to Sonya Blade. But it is your Wiki. I'm forceless to rename the main article of Sonya. Spinkanini 15:00, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Per Wikipedia naming conventions, we should be using the subject's most common name. For example, although there is no other Dwayne Johnson, the wrestler/actor/entertainer person's article is located at The Rock. In the MK games, Johnny Cage is always referred to using his full name. (Listen to the announcer). Sonya, on the other hand, is just about always referred by to her first name only. (Again, listen to the announcer.) Anyone searching using the term "Sonya Blade" will still get to the right article. However, she is most commonly known by her first name only, and that is due to the particular convention the games follow. MarphyBlack 00:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah, but if you wanna hear my opinion, Sonya Blade for the main article of Sonya looks better. Cheers, Spinkanini 09:26, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page moves 

message: Sonya Blade and Kurtis Stryker articles were Moved to Sonya (Mortal Kombat) and Stryker (Mortal Kombat), respectively.
*Since we're in the mood for change, I'd like to add this: Move Jax (Mortal Kombat) to Jax Briggs — Just to follow the naming convention that we've been using for other character articles, in using their full name in the title (Sonya Blade, Kurtis Stryker, etc.). RobWill80 14:21, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *I'm a bit iffy on this one. Per Wikipedia naming conventions, we should be using the subject's most common name. Although his full name "Major Jackson Briggs" has been used before, and I'm sure "Jax Briggs" by itself has been used a time or two, the character is most commonly known and referred to simply as "Jax". Sonya Blade and Kurtis Stryker are actually the articles that are not currently following the standard naming convention. It seems Stryker's article was created using his full name since Stryker was already taken. Sonya's article was created by an anonymous ip (Back when they could do that!), so it's likely the person didn't know any better (Sonya seems to have only been recently created, so there was no reason not to simply use that article name at the time until someone pointed out the conflict). I would vote to move the two articles to Sonya (Mortal Kombat) and Stryker (Mortal Kombat) respectively, but that would seem to be a more significant change than everything else. I'm just focusing on the comparitively simple stuff for now. :) MarphyBlack 23:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be happy with moving Sonya's and Stryker's articles. It just seemed weird using different naming conventions, and moving one article would've been a lot easier! I forgot all about guidelines (I think we've had quite enough of one in particular...). No problem. If no objections are raised, I'll take care of it. :) RobWill80 01:41, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed with MarphyBlack, since this has been done on Street Fighter articles also. They are more commonly known as Sonya and Stryker, while mostly MK fans know their full names. They should be Sonya (Mortal Kombat) and Stryker (Mortal Kombat), like in Jax's case. Master Spider 16:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, since no objections were made, I'll move Sonya's and Stryker's articles shortly. RobWill80 13:32, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just chiming in with a very minor two cents, but do we want to consider changing "Johnny Cage" to "Cage (Mortal Kombat)" as well? Personally, I don't mind either way really, since he's been inconsistantly refered too by both his full name and just his last name (kinda as if it were a "codename") from game to game... since he is sometimes refered too in-game, and even in his health bar as the full "Johnny Cage" I really don't mind either way on this one, but he's also sometimes (and was originally) just refered too as "Cage" so I just think "Cage (Mortal Kombat)" would bring him more in line with the precident that ya'll have been discussing for Sonya, Jax & Stryker. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.201.225.126 (talk) 21:01, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It may just be me, but I think the character is more commonly known by his full name. I think it's fine the way it is. RobWill80 03:43, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, Johnny Cage should definatly stay as it is. I am opposed to moving Jax (Mortal Kombat) to his full name, and I think Stryker should just be Stryker (Mortal Kombat). Sonya, I could go either way about. It just seems whether their surnames (or forenames) are that well known - mostly when you select a character on the game it just says "Stryker", for example, not "Kurtis Stryker". ≈ The Haunted Angel 08:15, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, that's a little bit strange, isn't it? All other characters like Johnny Cage are listed with their full names and Sonya Blade not? No other person is named Sonya Blade. I'd be totally satisfied if the main article of Sonya (Mortal Kombat) would be changed to Sonya Blade. But it is your Wiki. I'm forceless to rename the main article of Sonya. Spinkanini 15:00, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Per Wikipedia naming conventions, we should be using the subject's most common name. For example, although there is no other Dwayne Johnson, the wrestler/actor/entertainer person's article is located at The Rock. In the MK games, Johnny Cage is always referred to using his full name. (Listen to the announcer). Sonya, on the other hand, is just about always referred by to her first name only. (Again, listen to the announcer.) Anyone searching using the term "Sonya Blade" will still get to the right article. However, she is most commonly known by her first name only, and that is due to the particular convention the games follow. MarphyBlack 00:28, 6 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah, but if you wanna hear my opinion, Sonya Blade for the main article of Sonya looks better. Cheers, Spinkanini 09:26, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  
Jax (Mortal Kombat)
 

message: Came across this on IGN, the character select screen of Armageddon. Khameleon's appearance can be clearly seen here also, although only her mugshot is included. My question is, should it be added as the new select screen image to Armageddon article? I am also going to add new information about Khameleon's new look to her article prior to this. Master Spider 16:59, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say hold off until after Armageddon is released on the Wii, to see if a sharper, higher rez version doens't show up first, but that's just me. I do think the image should eventually be replaced by the Wii version, with Khameleon though, yes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.201.225.126 (talk) 04:14, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character select screen of ''Armageddon'' 

message: Ì'm adding taglines to the articles because each game article should have its respective taglines. --David Pro 18:29, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding taglines 

message: i couldn't find anything about controversy.  you can not have a mortal kombat page and not mention the controvercy.  Esrb?  snes no blood vs genesis blood code.  reason people actually played such a corny looking game.  honestly... how many games copied the motion capture style and failed miserably? anyway the controversy helped make the game a huge success and even today ppl still attack it.
                          Animenin 21:29, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy 

message: Does anyone think there are enough Midway stubs (at least 50) to justify a :Category:Midway Games stubs? There is already a , and I could also propose a , and both would go into the new category. Midway was in the top publishers for 2006 so there should be enough, somewhere. If anyone is interested, please list stubs on this page. ~ JohnnyMrNinja {talk} 06:45, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Midway Games stubs 

message: The Mortal Kombat section of the List of fictional martial arts is either vandalized or is in urgent need of a rewrite. I don't have the expertise, so I thought I'd bring it under your attention. --  17:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Addressed. The additions by MK239 were indeed vandalism. MarphyBlack 19:14, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expertise needed 

message: I've altered certain characters signature moves so that variations are recorded in the same entry. If I wasn't supposed to do that please tell me and I'll fix it.
Also, what is the difference between Kung Lao's Aura Spinning Shield and 3D Shield? From their descriptions they appear to be the same thing.
MrDrak 18:08, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Signature moves

message: Check article for current AfD discussion. Benjiboi 20:32, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Shinnok's amulet]] up for deletion 

message: Jesus, well, someone wants to delete both, but what I'm mad about is the species one. It's really important for the MK Universe. If you want it deleted or kept, please put it in the log! --Dekabreak101 (talk) 01:33, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of species and Heaven in danger of deletion! 

message: Be aware that a number of articles on this game are currently listed for Proposed Deletion (best viewed at WP:PRODSUM ),and will probably be deleted within the next few hours unless someone chooses to remove the "proposed deletion" anyone may do so, but the article(s) will certainly then be sent to AfD. Any administrator may meanwhile delete the articles, but they can be restored on request at Deletion Review--and will then certainly be sent to AfD. I am myself choosing not to delete the articles, but this will not stop any other administrator, since neither am I removing the tags. 13:18, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: imminent mass deletions

message: guys keep your mortal kombat articles brief. It may significant to you but it is irrelevant to the world. all you need is game articles, dont go on about heaven earth liu kang's biography et cetra. I'm just saying this because I created a wikiproject on StarCraft knowing that it may be insignificant. Although you can request a move of this article so it is placed as a subproject of wikiproject video games. just fyi. sorry about my poor editing whilst i was writing this im just trying to jot down my view. --Storkian aka iSoroush Talk  03:17, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are plenty of topics that could be considered "irrelevant to the world"; I don't find that a particularly compelling argument. EVula // talk // ☯ // 03:21, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indicating the topics as "irrelevant to the world" is just as much an opinion of an individual as it is for us to indicate that they are of some significance. The major problem with Wikipedia is opinion clouds the judgment of like-minded individuals, and before one knows, a majority of informative topics are wiped out. This is especially true with modern fiction; any articles of the such have just as much right to be here as any other articles, provided they meet certain standards. The S (talk) 09:13, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requesting move of this WikiProject to a subproject section of WikiProject Video Games 

message: A lot of information based on the different species, factions, and clans should be made, one that holds all of these things and not an individual page for each faction or whatnot. Obviously there were many pages removed but that one page could hold a mass of information and it would be just as important as the minor characters page. I would certainly supply all of the information required, without a problem. Mostly, I just want some support. --Kombat Krave 18:34, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Factions page 

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thread_title: Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

message: This Project is listed as inactive at Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory/Culture/Games#Video games, although it doesn't appear to be. Would there be any desire here to move this project to a task force at WP:VG? This would take off a lot of the bureaucratic business and leave you to the articles. It may even attract more people from WP:VG that way. JohnnyMrNinja 21:05, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we'd all rather keep Mortal Kombat separated from WP:VG. If this 'inactive' label produces a hazardous effect on the MK pages as a whole, then it could be a consideration, but for now there are no complaints. --Kombat Krave 22:17, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's bot-labeled, it can probably be changed if the project isn't inactive. I think it happens whenever two months go by with no activity. It was just a suggestion as a task force would be easier to maintain, but as long as there are some active members there is no worry of MfD or any other negative consequences. JohnnyMrNinja 21:26, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Revisiting this after two months, I would highly recommend becoming a task force. As I've stated else where (note that not all that applies to you), nothing really changes except that you get an addition to the VG template, and you can forget about any of the bureaucracy that might exist here, as WP:WPVG takes over that function. Plus, it's possible that you may bring others into the project. Really, it's a win-win situation for both MK and for VG. Please think carefully on this. :) --Izno (talk) 16:37, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at the history of the project and talk pages, it looks inactive. I say we wait until next week to see if anybody speaks up, and then move it to a VG task force. Sound good? (Guyinblack25 talk 14:57, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just checking in. Any thoughts on the move? (Guyinblack25 talk 23:32, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say it's dead, Jim.--Kung Fu Man (talk) 14:52, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright then. I'll move the project page over to a VG task force later today. (Guyinblack25 talk 19:14, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inactive? 

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thread_title: Franchise naming convention discussion at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Media franchises|WikiProject Media franchises]]

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thread_title:  Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Mortal Kombat 

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thread_title:  Endings are not canon! 

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thread_title:  Left over pages from the move 

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thread_title:  Coordinators' working group 

message: I've proposed a comprehensive cleanup of WP:VG's inactive task forces (which would include merging this task force with some others to form an "action & adventure" task force), if you'll take a look czar ♔ 01:58, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge this task force