Talk:Donegal fiddle tradition

message: “The three fiddlers of the Donegal "supergroup" Altan, Mairéad Ní Mhaonaigh, Paul O'Shaughnessy, Dinny McLaughlin, and Ciarán Tourish, are generally admired within Donegal.[16] Liz Doherty is the youngest member of this tradition.”
Okay, Footnote 16 refers to: "Feldman, Allen, and Eamonn O'Doherty. The Northern Fiddler: Music and Musicians of Donegal and Tyrone. Belfast: Blackstaff Press, 1979."
Altan was not formed until 1987, Dinny McLaughlin was never a member of Altan, and none of these fiddlers were mentioned anywhere in "The Northern Fiddler: Music and Musicians of Donegal and Tyrone" by Feldman and Doherty. So This is a FALSE REFERENCE!
This fake reference has been deleted. The numpty who "composed" this article should be ashamed! So long as it remains in this sorry state people should simply remove the clearly fraudulent parts!
And “Liz Doherty is the youngest member of this tradition.” Seriously? This nonsense claim in what's meant to be an encyclopaedia article? 
If you’re going to download and steal an article on a subject, please make sure the original author has some idea what they’re writing about, rather than mere personal opinion and ignorant prejudice. This entire article on The Donegal Fiddle Tradition is totally unreliable and should be deleted in its entirety, so that someone with a clue about the subject can write one from scratch. This article cannot just be touched up; it is awful and needs to be removed completely and replaced by a genuine article written by someone with actual knowledge, not just some gullible nube with access to Google and a willingness to believe anything the internet throws up.
To top off this disaster of google-investigation and shoddy scholarship, the article inexplicably has a photo of a fiddler from Newfoundland. Please delete this rubbish article immediately!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.42.241.28 (talk) 03:29, 22 October 2011 (UTC)
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message: I have to agree with the above anonymous commenter--this is really an appalling article.  Paddy Moran of Newfoundland as the only pictured fiddler?!  Liz Doherty, the "youngest member" of the tradition?  Dinny McLaughlin, a member of Altan?  And that only scratches the surface.  My original was far better.  I strongly recommend that you simply replace the present, extremely problematic text with the older, problem-free text.  I'd edit it myself, but I have no stomach to actually touch Wikipedia articles anymore. --Larry Sanger (talk) 19:30, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
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