Talk:Mobile phones and driving safety

message: It seems to me that "attention" or "attentional load" would be a more meaningful term to use than "distraction" which is used throughout. I'm not in the frame of mind for a major rewrite though, I have other things to do. Perhaps recent contributors might consider? ah bon
Some sort of universal ban on "attentional overload" activities at intersections seems appropriate.  The worst offense is to talk (and/or just listen) while turning left across oncoming traffic.  From my observations, drivers who try to do this, often fail to check cross traffic from the right--even once.  This article needs more information--and citing of studies regarding unsafe operation during increased attentional loads.  [Maybe, the FAA has something--they ban all cockpit (personal and social) conversations below 10,000 ft MSL]  Stephen Lord at the University of New South Wales has done considerable research on reaction times--but on the specialized group, pertaining to falls in the elderly. 207.178.98.26 (talk) 19:03, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Attention' vs 'Distraction'

message: I agree with this article and believe that using cell phones in a car while driving is dangerous, you lose your focus and cause trouble. Most times the bad drivers are people speaking on the phone while driving. If you need to talk on the phone—like if you get lost or can’t find some place you need to be at—have another person in the car talk for you. By no means, should you use your cell phone for friendly chats while driving in the car.
I agree that talking to a passenger while driving has the possibility of being as dangerous as using a cell phone. However, unlike a cell phone, there aren't distactions like if the phone cuts out for a split second and you ahve to make the person repeat what they say, you have both hands on the wheel(as with a hands free device), and you don't have the distaction of looking for your cellphone if you drop it. Most improtantly, however, you have an extra set of eyes watching the road, and your passenger can warn you of something if you aren't paying attention. if your talking on a phone, that's taken away.  Vandalism destroyer (talk) 20:08, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cell Phone Use While Driving 

message: I merged this with Cell phones and driving because this page has the most information already on it. Hope everybody is happy with the results. There might be some repetition of studies that I have missed, but i need to do some work now! Famousdog 14:37, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. --Nunquam Dormio 19:25, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: :Drivers in the Czech Republic, France, and the Netherlands may use cell phones but can be fined if they are involved in crashes while using such a device.
Is this a specific thing in law? In New Zealand, as I suspect in many countries, you can of course be fine or charged for careless, dangerous or reckless driving (or similar offences in other countries) for your involvement in an accident. Obviously if have an accident because you were talking on a mobile phone you will usually be fined and/or charged as appropriate. However there is nothing specific related to mobile phone use while driving. If there is nothing specific in these countries either, I wonder if they should be removed and a general statement about how people may be fined and/or charged under general laws if they are at fault (at least partially) in an accident due to mobile phone use. Nil Einne 13:33, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crashes 

message: When making a claim, the article should cite references to support it.
On the first paragraph
"Several studies have shown that motorists have a much higher risk of collisions and losing control of the vehicle while talking on the mobile telephone simultaneously with driving, even when using "hands-free" systems."
I have no doubt about correlation between road accidents with hand-held system.  However, I believe that with the hands-free system, the effect will be dramatically reduced.  If the author doesn't agree, then make the claim with sound references to conveince readers.
If the hands-free system is not safe enough, it will equall saying that drivers are not allowed to talk on their move.  So far, I have not seen any regulations which ban driver's talking when driving.  If the author try to raise the issue of the problems from other aspects, such as the other safety contributions from road designs, dirver's driving behavior, traffic signal controll etc, then make the claim conditional.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 72.52.66.10 (talk) 03:23, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The above comment is wrong on several points and now out-of-date regarding citations. The "talking while driving" comment has been addressed - there are good reasons why talkiing to somebody who is in the car with you is NOT dangerous, while talking to somebody who isn't present IS. The passenger can look out for other dangers, can regulate their conversation according to the situation, while somebody on the other end of a phone line cannot. This effects hands-free systems as well as handheld. Famousdog 13:30, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation is to be needed 

message: I don't understand why there is a cleanup tag on this page. The article seems reasonably tidy and consice to me. If nobody objects, I'd like to remove it. Famousdog 13:33, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup tag 

message: Israeli law does not prohibit usage of phone while driving - given that it's not hand held (earphone or handsfree kits are OK). 99.232.203.75 19:35, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  status in israel 

message: I just rewrote the first part of this article. I've been digging up all the studies I could find on this issue, and everything I added is well referenced. I think this is a big step in the right direction. (The previous version referenced Mythbusters, for crying out loud.)
To Do - for me, although help is appreciated:
*Rewrite the introduction. I'm having a brain fart on how to make it a better summary of the article.
*Incorporate some of the other simulation studies
*Finish the Other Studies section; what I have there now is just a placeholder
*Hands-Free:
**Remove unnecessary refs (to news reports vice studies) and replace with good ones
**Trim down to only verifiable statements
I haven't even looked at the legislation section; that may need a little love, too. Aron.Foster (talk) 01:58, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ummm. Couple of comments. The 'illegalization' section just seems to repeat what's in 'legislation' in a different way... and 'illegalization' is a horrible word! Famousdog (talk) 16:35, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major rewrite of article 

message: There is criticism that tells that it is not at all dangerous driving and tanking, if you are driving at a highway, it will only keep the driver awake. Why are there no critisicm included in this article? Wikipeia should express both sides of a subjetc. Oggedogge (talk) 08:44, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not good written? Speak for yourself. Famousdog (talk) 14:20, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I too was concerned that we didn't have enough in this article about "driving and tanking". Oggedogge, please link to a study that says what you claim and I'll make sure it gets its deserved attention in the article. Or, you know, you could add it yourself. Aron.Foster (talk) 13:50, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean "driving and tanking"? I tried googling the term and got nothing. If you mean "driving and talking" then this is addressed in the article already. Talking to a passenger is not as distracting as having a mobile phone conversation because they can see when the situation requires the driver's attention and can keep quiet (talking to a passenger is also probably safer thanks to the extra pair of eyes!). Famousdog (talk) 19:48, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not good written 

message: Image:Hands-free_kit.JPG|Hands-free kit in SAAB 9-5
Image:Texting.jpg|Texting on a keyboard phone
Some possibilities I've found in the common's above, but if anyone has a better picture of a hands-free device that's what we really need. Bluetooth, corded, perhaps multiple devices in one picture. Aron.Foster (talk) 02:05, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs pictures 

message: The argument about passengers being able to regulate their conversation with the perceived level of danger only properly applies to passengers who are experienced drivers. Certainly my experience is that non-drivers will blithely keep talking even as a situation escalates into something very dangerous, and where you need to be quiet and concentrate...
:Driver/Non-driver isn't the critical point.  Some people that drive are completely oblivious when not driving, and some non-drivers are quite aware.  It is equally important that the driver be assertive, and aware, enough to hush the conversation when needed.  There are always risks and distractions in driving.  The debate is about what risks and distractions are unreasonable and controlable.  The studies seem to indicate that talking on the phone is an unreasonable and controlable risk. But there is still debate on both of these points.  Highway vs City driving, logically, seems to present different risks, but are there any studies on that point?  The article seems balanced to me.  Is there debate on that?
Stephenlegh (talk) 18:32, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-driver passengers as bad as a phone? 

message: In the UK, they'll confiscate your car, toss you in jail for crying out loud. So IF you go there, leave the cell at home. I have Googled this matter as well.65.173.104.138 (talk) 22:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, since 27 February 2007 the financial penalty for improper use of a mobile phone while driving in the UK has been £60, with the possibility, at the discretion of the magistrates, of an endorsement of the driving license with three penalty points. Employers may also be prosecuted and fined for allowing staff to make or receive calls while driving. But in one notable case a successful prosecution ensued when a driver moved a mobile phone, which was completely switched off, from the dashboard of his vehicle to his pocket, i.e. no conversation took place at any time. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:45, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: UK

message: Legislation has been proposed to ban hand-held cell phone usage while driving in Delaware: House Bill 298.  This is not a passed law in Delaware yet. --User:Ceyockey (talk to me) 01:53, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Delaware, United States 

message: Some cars have iPhone integration ports to use the iPhone as an MP3 player.  So my question is if a police officer sees an "offender" whom they assume to be "surfing the Internet" or "texting" but instead the person is changing a song on their iPhone could law enforcement still bust persons not actually breaking the law?  It would be nice to make clear which laws are enforceable just for holding a device in your hands while driving MP3, mobile phone etc. or which laws are just about committing an actual task on the device e.g. surfing internet or texting. CaribDigita (talk) 09:20, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happens with cars that have Iphone integration for music? 

message: How do I put a caption underneath the picture (for example: "A driver placing a call")?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.24.76.252 (talk) 05:16, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition of a caption 

message: Some or all of this article from the Washington Post seems to be everywhere (including my local paper). It states that "Drivers won’t be able to text, browse, tweet or dial on factory-installed devices if auto manufacturers follow new federal guidelines to disable the gadgets while the wheels are rolling..." and that "The new federal guidelines, published Thursday in the Federal Register [emphasis not in original]  and subject to a 60-day period of public comment, recommend that manufacturers make it impossible for drivers to perform many functions while a vehicle is in motion, including: to send or look at text messages; browse the Internet; tweet or use social media such as Facebook; enter information in navigation systems; enter 10-digit phone numbers; or receive any type of text information of more than 30 characters unrelated to driving." 
First, if this is accurate, it propbably belongs in this article even while the rule gets finalized. The problem is that I can't find ANYTHING in the Federal Register that mentions it. LaHood's pet "Distracted Driving" section on the DOT site doesn't even mention it. I came here hoping an editor would have given details or a <REF> in the article. Does anyone have info on this?  Kevin/Last1in (talk) 23:57, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry I can add no more to your sources. But I am amazed that the automobile lobby in the US would allow this to happen. What would happen with Ford's "SYNC" and "MyFord Touch" systems etc and the GM equivalents? Such definitive legislation is not even on the agenda in UK. Martinevans123 (talk) 00:12, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed Rule to Block  

message: Does this law include using the phone for maps? Using the radio, finding buttons for windshield wipers, lights, gas tank, heaters, A/C, there are so many things that cause accidents, death. Add List of phobias and/or just Driving phobia & fear of being a pedestrian, bicycle riding with too many cars, etc? Hillmon7500 (talk) 05:16, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maps too? 

message: What about adding a link to Sleep-deprived driving? Hillmon7500 (talk) 03:56, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sleep-deprived driving 

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message: After reading this article " Mobile phones and driving safety ", the author show a lot of important evidences that why mobil phones effect your safety when you are driving. Also the article shows the detail datas of the danger of texting when you were driving. It's a really convince article to me, because of all the detail the author has. But the problem is, where are these data and details comes from. It doesn't have any references and sources. So, thats the problem that this article has.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.32.96.5 (talk) 02:48, 6 March 2017 (UTC)
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message: The problem in this field is that american logic has taken over and replaced european thinking, and most people are not even aware of it. Europeans had all that was necessary for professional-quality mobile use, like car kits, external antennas, hands-free facilities, voice-activated diallers etc, and we lost it with the advent of 3G/UMTS early in this millenium, probably due to bad american influence seeking to dominate everything, thereby dumbing it down and disimproving it, while claiming it had got 'better then ever before'. More at http://pro-mobile-internet.net/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 182.52.217.54 (talk) 21:38, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Be aware of american vs european logic 

message: I cut the information about United States state-by-state laws to merge into Restrictions on cell phone use while driving in the United States, which has much more detail, per the merge proposal tag on this page. I think it makes sense to have the article Restrictions on cell phone use while driving in the United States include all of the specific detail about each state's restrictions, since they vary quite a bit, while this article is more general. -- phoebe / (talk to me) 15:58, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge section 

message: Is this article meant to follow EngvarB? Despite the article name, there are 49 instances of "cell phone". Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:52, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  EngvarB?