Talk:Piano

message: Removed Encyclopedia Britannica from the References > General section as a less than reliable source, and let stand the statement: "Most of the information in this article can be found in the following published works:" Considering that the four remaining works are described by the original editor as, respectively:
*"a standard reference on the history of the piano"
*"an authoritative work covering the ancestry of the piano, its invention by Cristofori, and the early stages of its subsequent evolution"
*"contains a wealth of information"
*"gives the basics of how pianos work, and a thorough evaluative survey of current pianos and their manufacturers"
it seems reasonable to assume that most of the information in the article can still be found in these remaining books listed under General references. --Tsavage (talk) 11:48, 20 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Encyclopedia Britannica has often been a reliable source. Misty MH (talk) 23:30, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  General references:: Encyclopedia Britannica removed 

message: Pronunciation is probably more clearly transcribed as /piˈænoʊ/; in accordance with the English Wiktionary entry.
Netuser00 (talk) 03:41, 23 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Terra★ 00:28, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 23 March 2016: Pronunciation 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Should be updated from C0–F8 to C0–B8 (including rare extensions), as a 108-key piano has now been built by Stuart & Sons. (Of course, the standard range remains A0–C8). Double sharp (talk) 09:50, 23 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've updated the image, should be right now.--17jiangz1 (talk) 21:28, 16 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you! Double sharp (talk) 02:49, 17 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Playing range 

message: MR. John Vizilan is the one who created the piano 2600:1700:5700:3450:549B:EAE1:E92:9874 (talk) 22:34, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: .  Please provide a reliable source that supports this claim.  –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 22:41, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 31 October 2018 

message: Not looking to rework it without input, but does it strike anyone else that the lead of this article is a bit too long because it has multiple redundancies? It almost like somewhere along the way the lead was expanded so it more fully summarizes the article, but that expansion didn't really look to integrate better with the existing material. Or that someone wrote the pockets paragraph as a summary of the lead itself while the lead is summarizing the body. The part that jumps out the most to me is the multiple summations if the mechanisms, including describing the construction of the hammers and the role of the pedals. The lead is the summary, it doesn't need to be summarized further. I think it could stand to have some fresh eyes to make sure there's a little less redundancy in the writing. oknazevad (talk) 15:47, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lengthy lead 

message: Hello!  In your depiction of the range of piano, there is an error on how the lowest note of the piano is written.  The lowest A of the piano should be 6 ledger lines below the staff, not 5 as shown.
Thanks! 50.227.146.163 (talk) 14:45, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 22 September 2020 

message: I couldn't believe it!  Not one mention of Jonas Chickering  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1003:B45B:4577:E974:12D8:9104:80E7 (talk) 19:36, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Piano "history"? 

message: this piano Penpow3250 (talk) 12:03, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 4 February 2021 

message: The article says this: "The word piano is a shortened form of pianoforte, the Italian term for the early 1700s versions of the instrument," but pianoforte is the standard Italian term for a piano still today.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by OBrasilo (talk • contribs) 23:31, 22 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pianoforte 

message: This article says nothing about the two clefs in which piano music is typically written (cf., e.g., the article about the Bassoon), nor about its typical arrangement on two staves. Should this be included in the article and, if so, where? Ishboyfay (talk) 00:59, 19 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clefs 

message: I have no idea how to interpret the complicated illustration titled "Playing range" with two notes at the bottom, two notes at the top, plus the cryptic notations "8 - - -" at the bottom and "15 - - -" at the top.
Furthermore, the linked article Playing range does nothing to clarify this illustration.
Would it be too much to ask for the playing range to also be described in simple English somewhere in the text of the article? Like maybe with its own section?
Saying something like "The range is from the X that is K octaves below middlle C, to the Y that is L octaves above middle C".  Maybe also giving the frequencies of the extreme notes. 2601:200:C000:1A0:C489:7AF2:743B:FE25 (talk) 10:13, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The 8 and 15 bit is pretty standard notation for octaves up or down from the written notes. See Octave#Ottava alta and bassa. Just plain Bill (talk) 10:43, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No many people can read notes from the staff. Even fewer people grasp uncommon musical notation. Many readers are not musicians. 98.255.224.144 (talk) 16:55, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: In the keyboard section, the article states:  I agree that the fact that there are two notes is confusing though. The graphic in the infobox should include a caption. intforce (talk) 18:03, 8 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please clarify "playing range" 

message: I have a upright piano that has marion on it. April 25 1899 and I can't find any information on it. Please help SugarTaz (talk) 19:04, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi there. It's probably this company, who also built pianos badged as "Marion Piano". Hope that helps, Antandrus (talk) 19:15, 16 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marion 

message: In the description we find "The name was created as a contrast to harpsichord, a musical instrument that does not allow variation in volume; compared to the harpsichord, the first fortepianos in the 1700s had a quieter sound and smaller dynamic range."
A couple of issues: 1) "The name was created as a contrast to harpsichord..." doesn't make any sense. How could a name be "created" in contrast to an instrument? Do they mean, the name was created in contrast to the name "harpsichord"? But that doesn't make much more sense. How does the name "piano" or "pianoforte" or whatever show a contrast from the name "harpsichord"? 
2) A more substantive question: how could "the first fortepianos in the 1700s" have a "smaller dynamic range" than the harpsichord, when the harpsichord "does not allow variation in volume," which is the same as saying the harpsichord "has practically no dynamic range"? So the text is saying that the fortepiano, which is marked by its capacity to have variable volume, i.e., non-zero dynamic range, had a smaller dynamic range than the harpsichord, which has basically zero dynamic range. 107.132.168.109 (talk) 23:12, 13 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Both were cases of poor word choices. I copy edited the sentence to mare correctly describe the intended meaning. oknazevad (talk) 00:53, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I just went ahead and edited it myself. It still didn't make sense. Just took out the sentence that said "the name was created as a contrast to harpsichord" the meaning of which is undecipherable.Chafe66 (talk) 04:58, 2 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Description 

message: I need this hatnote for italic to be cancelled per WP:ITHAT, see like this:  181.118.158.133 (talk) 00:12, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Done oknazevad (talk) 00:59, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 August 2022 

message: Hello, I noticed that the bowed clavier, with clavier being the Deutsch /German word for piano, was invented as early as 1575. I was wondering why if this should be listed in the history of the piano 2600:1014:B11F:19A7:4013:D159:6891:AE34 (talk) 14:45, 12 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  First piano 

message: Most sources state that Cristofori developed his piano between the years of 1698 and 1708, but neither of these two years are mentioned in the current version of this article. Shouldn't we add this information? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 15:56, 23 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earliest piano 

message: The upright Piano section needs to be updated with Clavicytherium. 
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clavicytherium Srisri24 (talk) 13:03, 10 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clavicytherium also called Upright Piano. 

message: change
The piano is a keyboard instrument that produces sound when pressed on the keys.
to
The piano is a keyboard instrument that produces sound by striking strings with hammers when keys are pressed. Maukiman (talk) 23:38, 26 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: no reason given for the proposed change (that doesn't look like an improvement). M.Bitton (talk) 22:48, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 26 September 2023 

message: Hello all, I added an image to this page as part of a short-term paid project to share images of a year of culture that was held in Leeds. There's more on the project here and more images to make use of here. Many thanks Lajmmoore (talk) 10:42, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: How does that image add encyclopedic value to this article? Just plain Bill (talk) 14:46, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  New image 

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