Talk:Mortal Kombat: Armageddon/Archive 1

message: You forgot to meantion that Chameleon, Khameleon, Meat and Monster were also not included in the picture.
Well, to be fair, Chameleon, Khameleon, and Meat were pastiche characters, and Monster only showed up for a brief moment in the Konquest Mode of Deception (the characters in the picture only represent characters in the regular game modes). Although I'd love for Monster to show up ^_^ The S
:Technically, Reptile and Noob Saibot, arguably two of the series' most popular characters, began their lives as "pastiche" characters.  I'd really like to see Khameleon appear in Armageddon so that her storyline can be drawn upon more (i.e., we find out if she actually manages to tell Reptile the truth about their race). Jeff Silvers 02:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: True.  Anyway, it may be a moot point; if they don't include the characters, you could always just create (kreate?) them in Kreate-a-Kombatant. Jeff Silvers 23:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

text: You know, we should start linking to vids when you talk about them so everyone can see what has been said.  that way at least we know where to find the info to confirm things here.  (march 25 2006)
Here is the confirmation on Motaro: http://www.gameinformer.com/News/Story/200603/N06.0314.1902.24687.htm ...Also, please remember to sign your posts with four tildes. -SilentRage 01:21, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

text: That's Noob Saibot. That's what he looked like in Deception. He only looked all black in Deception in his alternate costume. SilentRage 12:58, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry if that sounded like a stupid question.  I'm not a console gamer at all, I only play PC games, so something like the content of a Mortal Kombat title hasn't been known to me since the last MK game for the PC, MK4.  I was justing basing it off of render art I had seen on the internet where he looked like he had a black costume with shadows surrounding him.  Anyways, wouldn't it be cool if they had both the human and robot versions of Smoke?  You know that a lot of you would like it! Vgamer101 02:41, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: MKA Characters

message: Although the rating is pending, the game will be rated M for Mature so someone should change it.
The game will more than likely be rated "M", but it would probably be best until it is officially rated to state such on the page. Wikipedia likes things to be official when it comes to these kinds of things. The S
More than likely? I'll bet my soul on it. Rune
:So will I, as long as Shang Tsung keeps his paws off it. But we can't say that it's rated mature until it actually is. 68.14.76.141 09:33, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It wouldn't hurt too many small children in third world countries if we mentioned somewhere in the article that it will probably be rated M, would it?--Agent Aquamarine 02:03, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is rated M 

message: :According to The Fighters Generation website, Evil Raiden, Classic Sub-Zero, Tarkata Shao Kahn, Hellbeast, Sierra, Tao Long, Drako, Terra and Usui Hasashi are also in the game.
Should this be included in the article?  I haven't seen information about these characters appearing anywhere else, and TFG is really just a fansite. Jeff Silvers 23:42, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Who in Cthulu's name are those last five? --Agent Aquamarine 02:04, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information on The Fighter's Generation website 

message: What's the hell up with that? There's nothing that's been said about it all it does is sum up the entire storyline. PNF 19:51, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed it.  It isn't relevent to this game specifically and therefore didn't belong in this article.  The real plot can be posted here when it is revealed. Jeff Silvers 01:28, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Story 

message: Who's the person standing between Stryker and Sonya?
Jarek The S 03:34, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's Jarek. Jeff Silvers 01:29, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

text: ... Yeah, I guess you did.  How is it I didn't notice that? :P Jeff Silvers 17:20, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Not that it really matters, "Jarek The S" looked like the original poster's signature. May want to watch that in the future when the only thing you're adding is a link.--Agent Aquamarine 07:22, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Bah. Does it even matter? The S 02:44, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roster 

message: Who is this Hero character listed in the roster?  His/her name wikilinks to Hero (Mortal Kombat), a page which doesn't yet exist, and I don't recall ever hearing about him/her in any other Mortal Kombat game.  Is he/she a new character in Armageddon (perhaps the character used in Konquest, replacing Shujinko in that role)?  If so, this probably needs to be addressed in the roster section. Jeff Silvers 17:24, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hero? 

message: Also, traditional nemeses such as [...] Sub-Zero and Scorpion.
Actually, wouldn't the "traditional" nemesis of Scorpion be Noob Saibot, since he is the first Sub-Zero? Scorpion vowed not to harm the current Sub-Zero, who is, I assume, the one shown in the trailer (in the poster, Noob is in the fourth row from the top near Smoke and Sub-Zero is in the front row). 68.14.76.151 10:36, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: >x<ino 18:34, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I said: the current Sub-Zero is the first one's brother. The old one, Scorpion's actual enemy, is now Noob Saibot, who is apparently going to be a separate character in the game. Obviously we should wait for the game, but my issue is with calling Sub-Zero Scorpion's traditional nemesis, when that doesn't seem to be the rivalry that's playing out in the trailer. The Sub-Zero shown there should most certainly not be Scorpion's enemy. See what I'm saying? 68.14.76.151 21:34, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

text: >x<ino 02:26, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Noob Saibot is said to have lost much of his memory when he became a wraith. He only vaguely remembered who Sub-Zero (the younger) was when he saw him before he and Smoke slew him in Noob-Smoke's ending. 
As for Scorpion retaining his memory, I guess it would be explained by Midway calling Scorpion a spectre, and Noob a wraith. The S 02:39, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sub-Zero vs. Scorpion 

message: Just thought I'd quickly clarify a few things wrong with how it's being changed around constantly for nothing more than free advertisement. Alphabetical ordering is a must as it doesn't list them in any arguable fashion. "Mortal Kombat Genesis" is not a freely open news source and "The Kombat Pavilion" is an animations and comics website, both don't require mentioning in relation to the article. Wikipedia is purely a free information resource and it's common sense that external links should lead to further information pertaining to the article at hand. I'm sure most can agree with all of this but any form of criticism is welcome, of course. Goroliath
:My personal policy is to only allow links that refer to the game at hand (which in most cases is the Mobygames link), and take out the fansites. The one exception to this is on the Mortal Kombat (series) page, since that's the most appropriate page for general fansites. There's also some WP guidelines regarding fansites as well (mostly in terms of notability or unique information), but I generally don't bother with those. That being said, I'm kind of tired of constantly reverting/deleting fansite additions, so I've been waiting for them to accumulate and deleting them all in one fell swoop. Virogtheconq 16:55, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've found that links to fansites that have up-to-date news (ala mortalkombatonline.com ), or ones that have extensive information on the series at hand are good to link to. Stuff that just showcase fanworks or shrines to favorite characters are not. The S 18:00, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Those work too, but it's probably best to link the game-specific page rather than just the main page on that site. Virogtheconq 18:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds reasonable. The S 02:48, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

text: For the love of Gilgamesh, I hate when these vandals mess with Wikipedia.... The S 02:12, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: Should that large picture of the entire cast be removed? Many characters have been added or changed since that was created, it's quite misleading.--Agent Aquamarine 02:06, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the only cast image we have, so I vote that it stays. Besides that, the only characters that have been confirmed since the image's release were Motaro and Taven (Mortal Kombat) (it hasn't yet been confirmed that Daegon is playable). The S 02:52, 24 May 2006 (UTC)

text: As did Boon in an interview with... (thinks...) IGN, I believe. But I concurr. The S 02:14, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Meat was never actually confirmed as a playable character. Boon simply said that there "may be surprises in the game, like Meat". And it's not deception to redesign Kurtis after the render; most of what was in the render were placeholders. The S 16:31, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Several articles say that he has been confirmed, including but not limited to 'Minor Mortal Kombat characters" and "Khameleon". Are you sure? And I like Stryker's old look. So there.--Agent Aquamarine 20:09, 25 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I never said anything about Stryker's appearance preference (I personally like his alternate costume in Armageddon, but that's irrevelant). I only said that it's not deception for them to change certain characters' looks; after all, the image was created very early in the game's development cycle, and it's not uncommon for placeholders to be used while designs are still being finalized. It's very common in game design, and, to be honest, in a lot of media. That all being said, there have been a lot of fanboys/girls that eat up every bit of information they see about the game, and post it on Wikipedia without checking sources. Everyone recall the "Fighter's Generation" debacle above? The S 02:33, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Cast Image

message: Meat will be playable. I wont add it, because its original research, but I got an email verifying that the character in the bottom left corner is Meat. I can put the entire email here if anyone wants to see it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.219.224.71 (talk • contribs) 
:I'm sure you're an upstanding person and all, but it won't matter. An email can be faked, and isn't verifiable. We can wait until such a fact is published in an established magazine (or similar) before adding it to the article; the world won't end if we don't add Meat this very minute (wow, I'd feel really bad if it actually did...). EVula 02:19, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Guess this is irrelivant now that we have the select screen up and he's there. :P  SilentRage 16:28, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Meat