Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles/Archive 5

message: I am angry at discovering certain comments by an editor that falsely accuses me of saying "I won". That is absolute shite, and a classic case of misquoting my comment, and/or reading something into it that was not there. The editor concerned knows who he is, so I will not mention his name. 
To put the record straight, I actually said, "...I will drink a pint to you, and salute you. We not only pulled a pint, we pulled it off. Have one on me... The thing about 'The thing' is over, at last. I'm so happy I could buy a round. Cheers, La." (meaning that there was an end to the whole mess, and I could get back to working on articles).The full message is here...
Is that all the concerned editor could find to incriminate me? Oh, how he must have searched... I despair. I seriously doubt that an apology will be forthcoming, but one can only live in hope. andreasegde 21:01, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The editor in question can speak for himself, but I think it's worth noting that his post included a link to the actual comments so people could easily read the post in question and draw their own conclusions. For what it's worth, I interpreted it as he did, the "We pulled it off" part in particular. John Cardinal 21:53, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree. "Thanks Athens: you pulled it off….  So it was in Athens, which for a fortnight managed, at least temporarily, to distract the people of the world from their worries, possibly even their politics, their wars, their natural disasters."  Thanks Athens: you pulled it off andreasegde 22:47, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Behind the scenes

message: The status board:
I find a certain pleasure can be gained from this. Cynthia Lennon is next, and then Astrid Kirchherr. andreasegde 00:58, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The reason we are here

message: Astrid Kirchherr has now joined the ranks of The Status Board after waiting for a long time. I am as pleased as punch for her... :) egde 16:45, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA

message: Please read and comment on "Drastic change?". Thanks. — John Cardinal 02:17, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have moved this to end of the talk page, as users should comment on it. egde 19:46, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drastic change to {{tl|The Beatles}} proposed 

message: There have been a growing number of Wikipedians questioning the need for a separate infobox for guitarists.  The  was created by Wikipedia:WikiProject Guitarists, and it easily survived a deletion nomination back in September of last year, but that was before  (which is supported by Wikipedia:WikiProject Musicians) became a widely accepted standard.  Both infoboxes are currently endorsed by Wikipedia:WikiProject Biography, but recent discussions between some members of the Guitarist and Musician Wikiprojects have concluded that it may be time to deprecate the guitarist infobox, and start replacing it.  (Unfortunately, this is not a task for bots, and will have to be done manually.)
Before making any final decision on the matter, we would like to get feedback from the broader community, so I am posting this notice to several Wikiprojects which may be affected.  Comments should be posted to Template talk:Guitarist infobox.  If you have strong feelings about this infobox, one way or the other, please feel free to let us know.  Thanks, Xtifr tälk 12:18, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Time to replace Infobox Guitarist?

message: Hi over on the WikiProject DELSORT talk we are discussing merging the Beatles sort list into the newly created Bands/Musicians list.  Comments are welcome either here or there. John Vandenberg 23:59, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there were no objections this went ahead. the wub "?!" 20:40, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  delsort changes proposed 

message: Hi guys, not an official member of this project but thought I'd mention this - I couldn't see any policy on the project page about it so made my own judgement which of course we can discuss if need be. An anon editor has been changing credits under Track Listings on a few later albums to read either 'Lennon' or 'McCartney', depending on the actual author. I understand this, we all know that the pair wrote many/most songs apart in the second half of the 60s so the attributions are probably 'correct', however I've reverted them since I believe the subtleties of who 'actually' wrote what belongs in the main body of the article (where it's already generally discussed) and not in the Track Listing, where you should just go with the official songwriting credits. Cheers, Ian Rose 03:28, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely. The track listings should show official credits. John Cardinal 05:51, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Songwriting credits

message: This is interesting: The Beatles in Australia. Watch the last 30 seconds - they're all doing the Nazi salute and laughing. (John puts his hand to his nose to look like Hitler.) George shouts, "We build tanks, and ships" and "Deutschland über alles...". They did it in Liverpool as well when they returned there to promote the "Hard Day's Night" film. What about the great undiscovered controversy of The Beatles saying, "We're bigger than Adolf"? --andreasegde 07:59, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sie lebt Dich - oops...

message: Hey Jude has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. LuciferMorgan 19:03, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's two citation needed tags I have left to address that concern sales. Can anyone verify these facts? WesleyDodds 00:25, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hey Jude FAR

message: For non notability (!) and a lack of sources.  Obviously we need WP:BEATLES members to rally together and provide reasoned support for this article to remain. Liverpool Scouse 19:33, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that this article should be kept, but this is clear canvassing and vote stacking. Melsaran (formerly Salaskаn) 21:18, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree, I did recieve a very polite informal warning from a sysop regarding this but after some discussion they agreed this hardly contravenes WP:CANVASS (User_talk:Liverpool_Scouse#Canvassing).  Let us concentrate on the issue (improving the article in question) rather than putting down a good-faith posting on this talk page, now that it's survived the AfD. Liverpool Scouse 16:56, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

text: There are more references in there now, and I see that the AfD has been taken off. --andreasegde 09:33, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Paul is dead]] nominated at AfD

message: Hi, I'd thought I'd bring this up here, since more people would be able to see it. Let It Be (album) needs to be moved to "Let It Be (Beatles album)" for disambiguation purposes, for there's also another very notable album named Let It Be by The Replacements. WesleyDodds 08:13, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Right now, "Let It Be" redirects to the Beatle album.  As this is the most famous album titled "Let It Be", I'd say leave it as it is. Steelbeard1 10:32, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WikiProject Albums, the disambiguation for the Beatles album should be clearer. Not to mention there's Let It Be...Naked. WesleyDodds 10:36, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving ''Let It Be'' 

message: Flounder is probably the better word to use in this article.  Apple Corps is still in business.  See, for example, http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/flounder.html
Flounder the NOUN is a fish, flounder the VERB is not.
Itazula 00:54, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founder vs. Flounder (in Peter Shotton article) 

message: I have some suggestions about how to improve the The Beatles discography article.  I would much prefer to engage in discussion before making any changes.  I posted a series of ideas on the talk page for that article in March - but apart from one minor (but valid) comment on a very specific point - no response.  I have just re-posted my set of suggestions.  It would be great if those who care about Beatles articles would look at the suggestions and offer some thoughts so we might evolve a consensus.  Thanks.  Davidpatrick 02:49, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Constructive suggestions for Beatles Discography article

message: :I have been attempting to encourage a couple of editors in the John Lennon and May Pang to find more citations for the Lost Weekend sections fo both articles. Currently, they are relying solely upon Pang's uncited bio and Larry Kane's reminisces. Frankly, as Kane was writing something a bit closer to journalism, he is almost enough, but no BLP  (and Lennon's article qualifies as such, since the people affected, Yoko Ono and May Pang, are living) can exist with only one citable source.
:In accordance to BLP, I am supposed to remove this info immediately, as it is disparaging. However, I have removed it to the discussion area on one of the pages, pending better citation. I have spent all my time since dealing with people who think I am part of some anti-Lennon conspiracy. I tend to respond rather negatively to that, but I held back somewhat. I grew up with Lennon's music, and I am a bit miffed at the personal attacks and uncivility.
:Look, I want the articles to make it to FA status, and the way they are now, at least Pang's article is in danger of AfD, since without the Lost Weekend info that has to be removed, there wouldn't be anything left. I would like to ask that some folk here who know their way around a search engine find some better sources for the Lost Weekend, or it will have to be removed as per policy. - Arcayne (cast a spell) 02:40, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lost Weekend citations needed

message: There is a bit of an edit war in In My Life around "with input from" language deemphasizing McCartney as a collaborator. As this could establish a precedent effecting many articles, it could use some input from the WikiProject. 
I'm hoping I haven't stepped in quicksand in this discussion. / edg ☺ ★ 23:28, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are a lot more things that need fixing with the article than who wrote the song. Page numbers need to be added to 'Notes', and the ISBN numbers need to be put in 'References'. --andreasegde 17:57, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emphasizing main writer in lead section for Lennon/McCartney collaborations 

message: I thought it had been zapped - glad to see it's still somewhere... --andreasegde 10:12, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Wikipedia:WikiProject The Beatles/The Beatles' miscellanea]]

message: This article is listed for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/John Lennon Artificial Intelligence Project. I added a feature from the Evening Standard, so this meets notability, but the article is only two sentences, so if anyone is able to add any relevant information, or more sources? I remember Yoko Ono mentioning this, in a positive way, but I can't find any reference to that now. If Yoko's comments could be found that would add a lot to the article. Masaruemoto 19:22, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[John Lennon Artificial Intelligence Project]] nominated for deletion

message: I have started a new article. Comments will be appreciated. --andreasegde 17:20, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Jim & Mary McCartney]]

message: * The Beatles' Project is dying a slow death (if it ain't dead already, girl, you know the reason why...) Lethargic is not the word.
* In the whole world this project has only 40 participants (much less if you don't put a politcal 'spin' on it and look at the editing history of the participants).
* How many Featured articles and Good Articles have been created over the last 3 years? There should be many, but the truth is sad.
* Is it time to close down this project? --andreasegde 19:54, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree – I don't think that the project should be closed down. First, one doesn't close down the project because no one responds here: there should be more of an effort to contact project members. There's no guarantee that project members have this page on their watchlist and if they do not then they are not aware of your comment. (WP has processes for this sort of thing and that process should be followed.) Second, getting articles to FA or GA is not the sole purpose of the Project. In general, why not suggest ways to make the project come alive, rather than nailing the coffin closed? BTW, I didn't respond before because I am not an official project member at this time and because your question seemed rhetorical to me. John Cardinal 02:44, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your reply, John. --andreasegde 19:01, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Beatles' Project

message: AS this project has been criticised for having lists, I find this (an FA article BTW), List of WWE Women's Champions, to be utterly shocking. Who is running the shop here, I ask, and what's the point?  --andreasegde 18:25, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: FA articles

message: I get the feeling that people who edit The Beatles' pages don't know that this "Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles" page exists (I had trouble finding it one year ago). Maybe they should be informed? --andreasegde 19:42, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Members

message: If anyone has time to spare... answer this question... --andreasegde 08:28, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: John Cardinal has been added to the list of correct answers. God bless him and all who sail in him... :) Anybody want to try the new question? --andreasegde 15:26, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_The_Beatles/Quiz#Q0010 The Fab Four quiz]

message: Can anyone tell me if it's forbidden to put quotes in from a DVD - showing episode and time of quote on DVD? I have added one to Neil Aspinall, but I don't know the ruling on this. --andreasegde 16:01, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it's forbidden, and can't think of any reason why it would be. I think a quote from a DVD (or any movie medium) is more difficult to review than a book but if the DVD is the only available source, it's better than nothing. John Cardinal 20:16, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, John. (I knew you'd be the one to answer that. :) --andreasegde 23:01, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: BTW, I thought it's comparable, or better, than quotes from newspapers, (although they are still good) as the papers being quoted are usually out of print, or hard to get a copy of. I was just wondering if there was some template for putting DVD quotes in the "References" section. --andreasegde 15:39, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: DVD quotes

message: *Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song) (failed). --andreasegde (talk) 14:02, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA reviews

message: I am combing through this list. If anybody has not contributed for six months or more, they will be put on the 'Inactive' list. If anyone disagrees, all they have to do is put their own name back on the 'Participants' list again. I thank you, over and out... --andreasegde 17:32, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Participants

message: After userSixString1965 was indef banned for all sorts of unsavory activity, a few socks atarted showing up, editing in John Lennon almost exclusively. Now, an anon user:24.168.17.212, he is editing again, removing old posts identifying his other sock and calling for the article to be deleted and to start over, Mindguerilla and callng into question the validity of the placeholder image (which has already gone through permissions and given a bill of authenticity) with the sock Jeffrey O. Assmunch (no doubt a childish dig at Jeffrey O Gunderson, one of the admins who caught this trollish sock-puppeteer). Could we get some help, please? Maybe a semi-protection would help for a bit, prevening these socks from being created to disrupt the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arcayne (talk • contribs) 22:07, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Puppetmaster active in John Lennon article

message: A Beatles' assistant once had a problem with a pebble and glass. Who, when, and why? --Mr Clever-Clogs 18:03, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: I don't know...

message: Hey Beatles WikiProject, I just want to let you know the FA The Long and Winding Road can use some help. It's not really up to current FA standards. I know your hard at work making more Beatle FAs, but don't forget about the ones that already are. Keep up the good work! Rocket000 (talk) 17:25, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I will look at it. --andreasegde (talk) 18:32, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have looked at it, and I have made some changes. I will find some references later. --andreasegde (talk) 01:37, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Much better. Thanks! It does need some references; I'll try finding some too. Rocket000 (talk) 06:33, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's only one "citation needed" on there now, about the orchestra. --andreasegde (talk) 16:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Okey-dokey. --andreasegde (talk) 10:17, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Long and Winding Road 

message: Someone has added a lot of uncited details about label colors on the Capitol album releases. I think it's all non-notable except possibly to collectors trying to determine which version they have. I think it should be deleted from the various articles, but given someone invested a fair amount of effort to add it, I thought I'd see what other editors think... John Cardinal (talk) 02:12, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, one editor has already reverted a lot of the entries, so clearly I am not alone... John Cardinal (talk) 02:22, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Any chance of a quick [link] to the relevant article? --andreasegde (talk) 01:36, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Labels on Capitol releases 

message: I am using Barry Miles' book, Bob Spitz's book, and Cynthia Lennon's book for references. I once had the Coleman and Davies' books, but have realised that they missed a lot of information out. I would love to have copies of Bill Harry's books, as well as the others about the Apple days, but I will buy them when I am next in England. When I do have them, I will put so many references into articles that someone is bound to complain. At the moment I am concentrating on facts that can be verified by all three, but also by web pages. What more can one do? :) --andreasegde 20:28, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If anyone claims about too many references, ignore them. It's a far nicer problem than too few. Getting some more books would certainly be good as I'm sick of the sight of Spitz and Miles! :P ;) Keep up the good work man, I see you've been real busy... --kingboyk 14:29, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Kingboyk - nice to see you back. I'm also sick of Spitz (who loves Lennon) and Miles (who bows down to Macca) as well, and Cynthia's writing reminds me of a schoolgirl's first novel. (If I read, "We had a marvellous meal" one more time, I will throw up... :) --andreasegde 18:17, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I forgot to say I'm adding references from the Antholgy DVD box set as well. I know it's not conventional, but it is the Fabs talking directly to camera. --andreasegde (talk) 21:16, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fine. It's verifiable. --kingboyk (talk) 01:07, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Books

message: Hello. I have a brief question I was hoping to ask the assembled talents here. Out of curiosity, does anyone ever know if the Beatles ever commented on or talked about how Charles Manson used their music? A press release, something one of them said in an interview, anything?... I'm guessing there would have been some media pressure at the time of the trial for them to say something... anyway, just curious. Thank you for your time. --Brasswatchman (talk) 16:43, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I remember that it was mentioned in conversation/interview once or twice, but extremely briefly, and not really enough to start an article about it. Sorry.--andreasegde (talk) 12:27, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question for Members of the Beatles Project 

message: Hi. I have a little problem with the photo that illustrates the article of Alistair Taylor, the image , has some problems in the classification of "Non-free use rationale". If it's not fixed it will deleted.
Please can somebody help to fill the template to solve the problems. Thank you --Alexcalamaro (talk) 21:52, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have fixed the tag and have removed the photo from this page. --andreasegde (talk) 09:55, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much for your Help!, with this kind of little help of my friends we are getting better all the time. Thank you girl / boy. --Alexcalamaro (talk) 21:10, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Alistair Taylor "This man has talent"

message: I would really like to know where Ringo lived. I know where John lived at Kenwood, but how far away was Sunny Heights? --andreasegde 21:20, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I seem to remember reading in Yeserday and Today that it was on Lennon's estate, can't check it now though, I've loaned it out! Cheers la, Vera, Chuck & Dave 20:00, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wasn't it some private "gated community"? i.e. Ringo lived on "John's estate" but not "the estate that John owned"?? --kingboyk 20:57, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at Cynthia Lennon and the Kenwood section. They both lived in the same area of Weybridge (St. John's/George's Hill?) but Lennon walked across the fields (Golf course?) at Xmas to get to Ringo's house. The  google  sat photo is useful. --andreasegde (talk) 09:12, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said :) Saint George's Hill "is a 964-acre (3.9 km²) private estate in Weybridge, Surrey in the United Kingdom. The estate features both a Golf and Tennis club as well as approx 420 houses. The estate is a popular residential location for celebrities and successful entrepreneurs." --kingboyk (talk) 12:58, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So where's Ringo's drum? I'm buggered if I know. --andreasegde (talk) 17:18, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean you want to know exactly? Coordinates? (I have no idea btw). --kingboyk (talk) 01:06, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, because I've got Lennon's house on a google sat photo, and I've read so much about the walk across the fields at Xmas, I would like to know... (It's a boring life, but someone's gotta live it. :) --andreasegde (talk) 16:00, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey it would be quite cool to set up a Google Earth file of Beatle locations wouldn't it? Indeed maybe somebody has already done it? --kingboyk (talk) 13:34, 13 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Can you find Sunny Heights on Google Earth or Maps and give us a link? --andreasegde (talk) 12:54, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Its the Mock Tudor home see link below, however it is better viewed in Local Live Birds eye View BermudaBreeze (talk) 18:49, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sunny Heights

message: As the rules are being changed, and there is no possibility at all to get an article to GA/FA without references, I propose that EVERY edit without a reference should be DELETED. It doesn't matter if we have heard/read about it, they should go.... --andreasegde (talk) 00:21, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was just going to say: if you know the statement to be true but it's not sourced and needs to be, using a  tag would probably be more constructive. You beat me to it :) --kingboyk (talk) 16:32, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been sharpening the scissors on the Lennon aticle. (Ouch! Where's all that blood coming from?) --andreasegde (talk) 20:07, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: The order of sections and chronological questions are being raised on the John Lennon talk page. If you have time for a cuppa tea, you should drink it whilst taking a look at it. --andreasegde (talk) 03:15, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem - we've got it sorted. Have a biscuit on me. --andreasegde (talk) 14:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lennon

message: Not to be a sore head, but are the Beatle parents notable enough to have articles of their own? GoodDay (talk) 23:36, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The best indicator of notability imho is the availability of reliable sources. So, probably yes. If you'd care to paste in some article titles I'd be happy to take a look and give you an opinion... --kingboyk (talk) 23:58, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Try the Liverpool Lennons site - it's got an old photo of Alfred Lennon's parents (Lennon's grandparents) and Mary "Polly" Lennon (nee Maguire) is a 'doppelganger' as they say. Not sure about Paul looking like his dad, but he does look a lot like his mum. --andreasegde (talk) 17:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Trust me, the older Paul gets (particularly around the chin) the more he looks like Jim (we need a frontal image of Jim, to show this). GoodDay (talk) 23:45, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

text: To be more accurate, Paul's upper facial features is like his mum, his lower facial features like his dad. GoodDay (talk) 23:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Brilliant - that's what I should have written! (Ouch) Who has eagle-eyes? GoodDay, that's who... :) --andreasegde (talk) 18:25, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Beatles parents articles

message: Let It Be is now a dab page.  It looks like it was moved before any discussion could be completed.  I think Let It Be should go to a (Beatles) article, probably the album like it was.  I'm sure you folk have opinions?  Discussion at Talk:Let It Be (album)#Requested move.  (John User:Jwy talk) 21:48, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't Talk:Let It Be be the fairest place to hold this discussion? / edg ☺ ☭ 23:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe, but Talk:Let It Be (album) used to be Talk:Let It Be and the discussion had started there so I've continued it.  I've also changed (the new) Talk:Let It Be from a redirect to a page that explains a bit what is going on.  Willing to move, but I think this would work.  (John User:Jwy talk) 00:46, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let It Be page 

message: Editors should look at this. --andreasegde (talk) 17:56, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't even bother looking at it, as it was a complete waste of time. I have the feeling that the bible-bashers will never forgive Lennon (or his relatives, bless them) for saying that The Beatles were bigger than "John's Chest". Slight typo there, methinks... --andreasegde (talk) 19:58, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Julia Baird has now joined the list of supposedly non-notable GA articles. --andreasegde (talk) 02:45, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ridiculous! Her book on growing up with Lennon, in itself makes her notable! Vera, Chuck & Dave (talk) 02:55, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I was being a bit sarky... :) --andreasegde (talk) 08:03, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Now he tells me! You little scalleeeeeee! Dicky Mint 14:50, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed deletion of [[Mimi Smith]] and [[Julia Lennon]]

message: Any living person will have a non-free image deleted from the infobox sooner or later. It's better to move it down into the article. That'll fox 'em. --andreasegde (talk) 16:25, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos in infoboxes

message: These articles: Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song), and Rain (The Beatles song), should be looked at and then put up for GA. --andreasegde (talk) 12:24, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sod it, I put Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band (song) up for GA again. It's a nominating life, but someone's got to do it... --andreasegde (talk) 09:51, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It got a GA. --andreasegde (talk) 12:10, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles for GA

message: Is there any particular reason why a Parisian boulevard is used as the icon photo for the project banner of a British group, and why said photo is misidentified as Abbey Road on some versions of the banner? Robert K S (talk) 02:30, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know which versions you have seen, but it's Abbey Road. --andreasegde (talk) 11:18, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's Abbey Road alright, but someone has changed it to a picture with Zig-Zags on the crossing - feckin 'orrible! Vera, Chuck & Dave (talk) 11:23, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Which one you lookin at Edge? Vera, Chuck & Dave (talk) 11:27, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This one, and it's being used on LOADS of pages. Bugger... --andreasegde (talk) 11:29, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm sure that I may be allowed to say that we all thank you for your eagle-eyes and work changing the photo, Robert K S.  --And so say all of us... (talk) 18:39, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: So... what do we do about the list using this photo? --andreasegde (talk) 18:41, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Steve's original point (made in 2006) it looks nice, much better than the one with the Zig-Zags, no Zigs on the album cover crossing:) Jus my opinion Vera, Chuck & Dave (talk) 21:17, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Banner photo anomaly 

message: What does anyone think of this attempt? I have taken the zig-zags off, cleaned the zebra crossing, and put a new "Abbey House" sign on. I also added something else from Vienna, but it's easy to spot... I also have a cropped version, which looks more like the album cover. --andreasegde (talk) 12:04, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sod it, I have changed the templates photos. If anyone doesn't agree, they should slap me with a live trout until I change them back.--andreasegde (talk) 19:01, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New photo:

message: Should there be an article on them? I know there is The Beatles Anthology, but would it be worth it to write about what's actually on them, locations, subjects talked about, songs played etc., without it being a list? --andreasegde (talk) 19:00, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, maybe not.--andreasegde (talk) 16:11, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Nice one. Maybe I should just add the comments to the relevant pages, as The Beatles Anthology (film) is a long list. Not sure... --andreasegde (talk) 22:15, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Funnily enough I was looking over the White Album article and thinking the DVD comments by the Threetles and Martin on whether it should have been a single album would make a useful addition. Pawnkingthree (talk) 12:25, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Anthology DVDs

message: Hello, hello. Long time, no speak. I'm just popping by to alert everyone to the fact that many of the music samples available in :Category:The Beatles music samples are orphaned (i.e. not used in any articles) and, as such, are scheduled for deletion by February 24th. Someone please act quickly to put these sound samples in articles using :Template:Listen. Thanks! —Gordon P. Hemsley→✉ 22:41, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I only found three. They're now on the relevant pages.--andreasegde (talk) 16:00, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music samples 

message: She now has a GA rating. There's not much chance of Yoko getting one, is there? --Not a chance, matey (talk) 22:32, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Linda

message: Answer these; it's all in the links... --andreasegde (talk) 17:52, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Go on...

message: There are four articles up for GA, and one of them is Yesterday and Today. Another one (#5) which will shortly be put up for GA, is Rain (The Beatles song). The world will turn...--andreasegde (talk) 23:49, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Free As A Bird and Rory Storm should be no problem; they look superb. John Lennon looks good too. I think Yesterday and Today still needs a bit of work-- more references would help. Pawnkingthree (talk) 08:38, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a strange one, because someone put it up for a GA, but said nothing about it on the talk page. I don't know what to make of it. If you look at the talk page, you might (as I did) start thinking about 'socks', but that may only be me being paranoid. "Just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean they're NOT out to get ya." :))--andreasegde (talk) 09:51, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA

message: The article All Those Years Ago says "It is one of only several non-Beatles songs to feature three members of the group." However, the only other song I can think of to be released under a name other than The Beatles and feature three Beatles on the recording is Ringo's "I'm the Greatest" which also featured John and George. Are there any others? --Metropolitan90 (talk) 01:25, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sour Milk Sea is one; there may be other Apple recordings which featured three. Pawnkingthree (talk) 10:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think The White Album would have a couple.--andreasegde (talk) 12:46, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Back in the U.S.S.R. and Dear Prudence, when Starr was not there.--andreasegde (talk) 12:47, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that the original reference said "non-Beatles songs". Everything on The White Album including "Back in the U.S.S.R." and "Dear Prudence" was released as by The Beatles. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 14:18, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well my example still counts!:) Pawnkingthree (talk) 14:53, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoops! "non-Beatles songs"... I shall now give myself 40 lashes with a banana peel.--andreasegde (talk) 15:56, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, "Sour Milk Sea" would definitely count. I was looking only at the Beatles' solo work and didn't consider that they might have had three members together on someone else's recording. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 05:14, 14 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Tony Sheridan? Three of them played with him.--andreasegde (talk) 19:32, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Three-Beatle recordings outside the group

message: This could, and should, be a GA. Anyone willing to look at it? It's got lots of references, but just needs some cleaning and formatting.--andreasegde (talk) 19:24, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have nominated it (see above).--andreasegde (talk) 11:37, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Kenwood, St. George's Hill]]

message: What is this all about? It's got all the Wiki info on it.--andreasegde (talk) 12:04, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It just seems a bit strange to copy the talk page, and everything else - what a waste of server space.:)--andreasegde (talk) 14:47, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Copy page

message: 29 (now 32) Beatle GAs, with wonderful contributions  from all of us. 'Nuff said from me.--andreasegde (talk) 16:03, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Good articles (GA)

message: I would really like to take George Martin to a PR and then FA, but he's not on the list.  Any Nays?--DizFreak talk Contributions 19:59, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely no Nays. Go ahead, with full steam... :) --andreasegde (talk) 18:20, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[George Martin]] -- FA? 

message: has been nominated.--andreasegde (talk) 12:18, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA

message: You should read this page. It's full of things that anyone who knows anything about this project would get a good laugh out of. Basically it says you should never trust a Liverpudlian taxi driver. :))
*"The first place Alan [the taxi driver] took us on our tour was St. Peter’s Church. There was also the grave of John Lennon’s uncle, Uncle George Toogood Smith, who was more like a father to John. He was called Toogood because of his jazz playing skills. Eleanor Rigby’s grave was also in this cemetery. Eleanor Rigby was from a very well to do family. She chose to become as a musician, and she ended up on the streets. John was always warned by his mother that she would end up like Eleanor Rigby."
*"Paul McCartney and John Lennon both went to the same school for boys, which was where they met."
*"John and Paul met on the bus to the Liverpool Academy for Boys."
*"Alan then showed us the place where Paul bought his first Elvis Presley album."
*"Next we went into the barbershop where some of the Beatles used to get their haircut. Alan had said we could have taken pictures in the chairs, though the hair stylists were all doing their hair and makeup and wouldn’t actually get out of the chairs."
*"His [Lennon's] mother had married a sailor, and three weeks after the marriage, he left to sail around the West Indies. He only came back to convince John’s mother to give John to his sister, Mary. Soon after, John’s mother had a breakdown. At one time, she was dating an American sailor, whom which she had a baby girl."
*"I don’t think she [Margaret, who lives in Ringo's house] and Alan [taxi driver] got along, however. She kept saying that taxi drivers don’t know anything, and for the rest of our tour, Alan kept saying that we shouldn’t listen to anything he says because he doesn’t know anything."
*"Next, Alan took us to see the university where John Lennon had attended. He never did graduate. He thought it was much too strict a school. We also saw the Liverpool School for Boys, which is now the Lennon School of Performing Arts."
Laugh? I nearly bought a round of drinks...:)--andreasegde (talk) 14:16, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: A good laugh

message: The page devoted to the song "A Hard Day's Night," says that Lennon wrote the song. However on the list of Beatles songs (search on list of beatles songs) the writing is credited to both Lennon and McCartney. Does anyone know which it is? 
Bri4daz (talk) 17:26, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: All Beatle songs written by Lennon and/or McCartney are credited to both. This was an agreement between the two of them early on. However, after the first few years, they rarely wrote anything 50/50. Often they bounced ideas off each other, helped finish songs and were in a more-or-less friendly rivalry. Some songs were completely written by one (for example "Yesterday" is 100% McCartney). There's been much published on who actually wrote what, and for most individual song articles, Wikipedia mentions who wrote the song, while giving the official songwriting credit as Lennon/McCartney. I believe the article Lennon-McCartney goes into further detail on how they wrote the songs. freshacconcispeaktome 17:39, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question about the writing credit for "A Hard Day's Night"  

message: This could be a GA, IMO.--andreasegde (talk) 14:27, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Paul McCartney (solo)]]

message: I've converted the template to  at User:Dendodge/Sandbox/Beatles template.  The only differences between mine and the current one (besides aesthetics) is that, unless |display= is defined, it displays 'Beatles-related', regardless of the |john |paul |ringo |george etc. and that it uses different categories (that couldn't be helped).  Do I have the go-ahead to copy my code to the actual template and redirect the categories?  I figured asking here would get a more prompt reply...... Dendodge .. TalkHelp 14:43, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Although not being an expert on such things, it looks alright to me. Anybody else?--andreasegde (talk) 05:04, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I just noticed that 'merge' 'merge or delete' etc. quality ratings don't work - but it uses the extended scale, so it has just about all of them...... Densock .. Talk(Dendodge on a public network) 08:07, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a separate |merge parameter...... Dendodge .. TalkHelp 16:38, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Now there's also |delete and |mergeinto parameters...... Dendodge .. TalkHelp 19:52, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll wait another week and, if I don't hear any nays, I'll implement it...... Dendodge .. TalkHelp 11:32, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I was using the wording of the current template - I see it's been removed now, but generally only one of those would appear anyway...... Dendodge .. TalkHelp 17:19, 21 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I've fixed the |display thing now - so the parameters that affect the actual text affect my sandbox version as well...... Dendodge .. TalkHelp 22:16, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a couple of parameters that are not on the current template...... Densock .. Talk(Dendodge on a public network) 09:35, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Deploying tomorrow - raise any objections before ~9pm (UTC) tomorrow...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 21:46, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

text: ...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 20:12, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: , whaddayathink?...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 20:20, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll need help redirecting the categories - I can't do them all by hand (just ad ) --...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 20:25, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh - and add  to the new ones...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 21:01, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project template 

message: Shouldn't Jeff Lynne be included in the project? I mean he did produce the reunion tracks and Harrison's cloud nine album. - User:Feeling free
:It is...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 23:14, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No objection from me...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 23:31, 27 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Isn't it weird that we're the only 2 people with this page on our watchlists...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 13:11, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jeff Lynne 

message: The Quarrymen is up for a GA review.--andreasegde (talk) 10:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It passed.--andreasegde (talk) 10:28, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA

message: I think this ought to be restarted.  My bot could deliver it (it's already approved for delivery using AWB) and I'd be happy to write some (or most) of it...... Densock .. Talk(Dendodge on a public network) 12:40, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I could help if you would like (but maybe it could be shorter/smaller than the old one). It could detail the problems on some pages, like watching out for editors that cause trouble; deleting free-use photos for no reason, or uploading photos as free-use when they are not. I think (in my heart-of-hearts) that George and Ringo should be GA articles, so as to complete the picture. I'm all for it — if you hadn't guessed that already... :)) My vote's a YES. :)--andreasegde (talk) 17:23, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I will send out a message to all the active participants, to see if they agree (but I think they will).--andreasegde (talk) 17:24, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say there's pretty unanimous consensus, so I'll make a start - feel free to write any articles on the newsletter page (clisk the issue 13 link)...... Densock .. Talk(Dendodge on a public network) 13:33, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Issue 13, and for my bot to do it I'll have to change the way a delivery method is chosen (but keeping all the same options)...... Densock .. Talk(Dendodge on a public network) 11:20, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

text: When is it going to be sent out?--andreasegde (talk) 18:30, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

text: If we wait, it might not go out until the middle of the month, which will squeeze the next one in August, or maybe only send one out when there is enough info? Whatever you decide is fine with me.--andreasegde (talk) 19:03, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

text: When I fix my laptop charger, I'll send it out...... Densock .. Talk(Dendodge on a public network) 12:43, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I just couldn't be bothered to convert everyone's sig to a talk page link, so I only did active.  If you want to add inactive to the list, it'd be good...... Densock .. Talk(Dendodge on a public network) 11:40, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newsletter 

message: As you may have heard, we at the Wikipedia 1.0 Editorial Team recently made some changes to the assessment scale, including the addition of a new level.  The new description is available at WP:ASSESS.
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thread_title: Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

message: This hasn't been changed since late 2006!  Surely we should get this going again?...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 16:17, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's at Portal:The Beatles, for those of you who want a link...... Dendodge .. TalkContribs 16:17, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portal 

message: I can't believe I've just done this, but I have nominated her for a GA review.--andreasegde (talk) 16:34, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, on second thoughts, I have decided to take her out of the GA process.--andreasegde (talk) 20:02, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Heather Mills]]

message: Hello I took it upon myself to rate All Together Now (DVD); I don't know if this matters, so I'm posting here. Post on my talk if you need me. —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 05:12, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rating 

message: I see our Deletion sorting page has become part of the deletion sorting/Bands and musicians page, which is all very well...but... WPB members might like to check out Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Stanley Street, Liverpool, and also possibly add information to the article about the Beatles-specific notability of this street. Grutness...wha? 07:13, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  AfD 

message: I've made a request for a bot to fix the categories of the project banner at Wikipedia:Bot requests#Template:WPBeatles. --Geniac (talk) 14:39, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bot request 

message: When is me gonna get it, like?--andreasegde (talk) 21:50, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, my home internet's still down and my school won't let me download anything - let alone AWB.  I'll do it manually later...... Densock .. Talk(Dendodge on a public network) 07:50, 22 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Er, thanks - it was my last day of school and I had to spend all of my break, lunch and form time delivering it manually - I have to chec in now and then from my Grandma's stone-age dial-up Internet explorer desktop when I can, so I won't be too active for 6 months or so. Mum did say she'll buy me a new laptop charger, so my fingers are crossed...... Densock .. Talk(Dendodge on a public network) 14:31, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The ''Beekles'' Newsletter

message: Currently, 950 articles are assigned to this project, of which 267, or 28.1%, are flagged for cleanup of some sort. (Data as of .) Are you interested in finding out more? I am offering to generate cleanup to-do lists on a project or work group level. See User:B. Wolterding/Cleanup listings for details. More than 150 projects and work groups have already subscribed, and adding a subscription for yours is easy - just place a template on your project page. 
If you want to respond to this canned message, please do so at my user talk page; I'm not watching this page. --B. Wolterding (talk) 17:13, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Articles flagged for cleanup 

message: The Independent newspaper apologised to Mardas on this page. Quote: "We accept that he [Mardas] did not claim to have invented electric paint, a flying saucer or a recording studio with a "sonic force field" or cause his employers to waste money on such ideas." Wikipedia: "Controversial material about living persons that is unsourced or poorly sourced must be removed immediately, especially if potentially libellous." This could seriously ruin any chance of taking the article any further. Comments? (Please reply on the article's talk page)--andreasegde (talk) 17:45, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The law and [[Magic Alex]]

message: How could User talk:Be Black Hole Sun call The Beatles discography a stub in its talk page? Steelbeard1 (talk) 14:17, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Can't find it.--andreasegde (talk) 18:12, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's because the change was reverted.  Look up the talk page history. Steelbeard1 (talk) 19:13, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Beatles discography