Talk:Marilyn Manson (band)/Archive 1

message: Marilyn Manson's music was cited as a motivation in the Columbine High School massacre (ref. [1]).
By whom? GWO
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References
: http://www.marilynmanson.com
: [1] http://www.rollingstone.com/artists/bio.asp?oid=54
The citation of Marilyn Manson's music as a motivation in the Columbine High School massacre was made by one or many non-psychologists with a tendency to blame effects (listening to Marilyn Manson as a result of feeling alienated) as causes, and also an incomplete appreciation for freedom of expression.
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Among the non-psychologists who publicly mentioned Marilyn Manson in connetction with the Columbine High School massacre was Senator Joe Lieberman.
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Marilyn Manson's music most likely had nothing to do with the Columbine massacre, since Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold didn't listen to him. Attempts to blame him for it is most likely hysteria.
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Manson has nothing to fear for the blame of the coulumbine massacre. it is just little church goes too afraid to believe that anything that their children might do is the fault of their upbringing or treatment in other places.
I dunno why this was protected, so i unprotected it.  Tuf-Kat
I'm not a fan of the group or the music they make.  Frankly, I think a lot of what they do and say is just to stir up the Conservative movement in this country because it generates a great deal of publicity about them.  Like the old saying goes, there's no such thing as bad publicity.  It keeps them in the public eye.  I don't see that their music has had any sort of impact on what's lead to the various school shootings over the past decade.  People identify with certain songs of various musicians, something about the lyrics or about the story a song tells or the experiences it conveys.  I was always under the impression that touching the listeners on some level was the point of music to begin with.  There was no brainwashing or hidden messages that suddenly forced these kids to kill anyone.  During the 1980's, Ozzy Osbourne was blamed for the suicides of two teenage boys because they listened to his music, and his stuff is downright tame compared to some of the stuff Manson spews out.  There was no evidence at all to suggest that Osbourne's music encouraged their suicides just as there's no evidence to link Manson to the Columbine shootings.  People seem to have this tendency of trying to lay the blame for the problems in their own lifes, or the problems of society in general, on those they percieve to be "outcasts" or "evil" or just plain convenient.  
Just because he's different they blame him. He lights the Bible on fire during shows so they say he's Satanist and caused it. They can't take the blame for their own monsters they created. TearAwayTheFunerealDress 15:41, 1 November 2005 (UTC)

message: move all the personal stuff to his personal page and all the band stuff to this page and keep this page strictly about band history and other members, etc.? - Omegatron 01:38, Oct 29, 2004 (UTC)
:Sounds good to me. violet/riga (t) 10:31, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, sounds like a plan. PMC 22:51, 29 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  band vs. person 

message: does anyone know when and where he did the cover of Like a Virgin? thanks. --little Alex 07:35, Jan 5, 2005 (UTC)
I seem to remember having an MP3 of it, it sounded like a bootlegged live recording, realy bed quality, you could barely make out the song. On the other hand he did a live cover of ...Baby One More Time (song), which was rather funny. --62.160.189.132 19:01, 8 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  silly question 

message: I was wondering what people's thoughts are about including a mention of Mansun somewhere to assist with disambiguation between the two? I know they're not really that similar, but if someone had only heard the name spoken, they might be a bit confused? (Or, like me, they might be getting far too little sleep and be wandering around trying to find why Attack of the Grey Lantern isn't listed as an album here hahaha) --Qirex 07:59, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Mansun