Talk:Yonatan Netanyahu

message: What was JN's rank at the time of his death?  I'm unclear what being CO of Sayeret Matkal implies:  is it a regimental-level unit, brigade-level...?  Alai 03:54, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rank?

message: There is no reason to translate his name to Jonathan.  His name was Yonatan, and there is no sense in changing it when he was only known as Yonatan. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.112.134.90 (talk) 05:22, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. If no-one objects, I'll move the article. --Dweller 12:50, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'll support the move as well. ←Humus sapiens ну? 22:21, 25 January 2007 (UTC)

text:  I support the move too.  --GHcool 04:43, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: Could anyone please translate what is written on Yonatan Netanyahu's gravestone?
Thank you — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.211.194.117 (talk) 19:48, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yonatan Netanyahu
Son of Tzila and Ben-Tzion
Born 11th of Adar B תש"ו (it's the year)
Fell in battle in "Operation-Yonatan"
6th of Tamuz תשל"ו
May his soul be bound up in the bond of life
TFighterPilot (talk) 19:56, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Gravestone

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message: It seems more logical to have the English "Jonathan" spelling used for the English Wikipedia, with a redirect from the Hebrew. It would also make pronunciation simpler for readers. Thoughts? --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 19:29, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Support -  Note that the citations in the article itself, including two key biographical books, NY Times article, and a proposed film bio, use the Jonathan spelling. His brothers used it on the title of both books. Herman Wouk used it. The Jonathan Institute is an established entity (which someone can create an article for.) The video documentaries use Jonathan along with the Yoni nickname. Per MOS, "For foreign names, phrases, and words generally, adopt the spellings most commonly used in English-language references for the article, unless those spellings are idiosyncratic or obsolete." Since no one mentioned those facts, I thought they should be pointed out here. The "links" issue mentioned below is not a problem with a redirect and can be changed over time.  --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 17:03, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: His Memorial site also prefers the English spelling. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 18:21, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Oppose - The man's name was Yonathan. What next, Isaac Rabin, Simon Peres and Moses Dayan? Poliocretes (talk) 09:01, 25 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Strong support: Yonatan sometimes makes readers hard to read (some even can't read it), including me. Jonathan is better than the current "Yonatan" that make most readers understand. The same discussion for Turkey, moving from Turkey to its Turkish name, Türkiye. that wasn't changed due to a Turkish translator for its president mistakenly translated. I also strong support for others, Isaac Rabin, Simon Peres and Moses Dayan to be changed. Kys5g talk! 13:15, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

text: Translation is not the point, it's transliteration that's the problem here (actually it says YWNTN NTNYHW on the tombstone). Either way is possible and correct. In Wikipedia Yonatan is a redirect to Jonathan. But since the Hebrew name has been translated as Jonathan for the past umpteen centuries there is no point discussing what's correct and what's not. As Jonathan Netanyahu is already a redirect, and nobody will bother to change all the links in the articles, I would suggest to leave everything as it is. --Dodo19 (talk) 09:35, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose - His name was Yonatan. Wikipedia doesn't decide what a person's name is.--Geewhiz (talk) 09:40, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Would be interesting to know, what name is on the birth certificate ... --Dodo19 (talk) 09:48, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Compromise proposal - Alter the lead (& nothing else) to say Yonatan "Yoni" (Jonathan) Netanyahu.  A redirect already exists.  No other action needed. Hertz1888 (talk) 17:53, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title change to English spelling 

message: Note that a few of the photos have been targeted for deletion.  Since it is apparent that they are probably public domain in Israel, can someone try to source the photos and upload new ones similar to the ones here?  I believe the govt. probably has some information about the free use of the photos. It's also possible to edit the photo information box by adding the public domain information. --Wikiwatcher1 (talk) 02:59, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images wanted 

message: There is at least one image of Yoni Netenyahu that is public.  It is a photo of him as a younger man and was posted with a news article at this site:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3384084,00.html            Since this photo used in the news article is from their archives and has been publically published, can it be used without any violations?  I'm not certain that I understand all of the difficulty in using the current photos, but it would be nice to have as much accurate data as possible.  That is what makes Wikipedia so useful.  Thank you!  Lady Ilea
PS:  The article in question challenges some of the claims made by Mr. Betzer and provides some very interesting comments.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lady Ilea (talk • contribs) 06:17, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No, sorry, just because it has been published it's not public domain. We have to assume it's copyrighted just like any other picture. Fut.Perf. ☼ 17:43, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image found 

message: His nick Yoni sounds funny in India. Yogesh Khandke (talk) 19:38, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Unfortunate coincidence is all. Quis separabit? 23:02, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Nick name

message: *Claire Sterling is a controversial figure, of questionable relevance to Yoni Netanyahu. Some of the language used in this article "Israeli and Western propaganda," could be interpreted as strongly opinionated. I think the section should be edited to take a more neutral stance, or at least do a better job presenting multiple perspectives.http://www.nytimes.com/1995/06/18/obituaries/claire-sterling-76-dies-writer-on-crime-and-terror.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20160220053212/https://www.foreignaffairs.com/reviews/capsule-review/1981-03-01/terror-network yoni (talk) 05:40, 20 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV-Section The Jonathan Institute 

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message: Under the ‘Legacy’ sub section, the line that reads “Former Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu said his own "hard line against…” should be changed to reflect the fact that Netanyahu is the current Israeli Prime Minister. Zach.george (talk) 17:12, 26 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Melmann 10:28, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 26 March 2024 

message: Change Militant to Terrorist Aggy92600 (talk) 14:25, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. M.Bitton (talk) 15:16, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update Militant with Terrorist Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 30 May 2024