Talk:St John Ambulance

message: There is nothing in the article saying what this group does, exept for "teaching and practice of medical first aid". From the picture, I guess they run ambulances, but I'm not sure. --Apoc2400 07:10, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's far too much about the Order of St John, which the article admits has very little to do with St John Ambulance - the article really needs splitting, or the historical stuff toning down.  I'll take a look at it later - what the organisation does in the UK is provide first-aiders (including ambulances) at public events, and train first-aiders.  --ajn (talk) 07:35, 9 October 2006 (UTC)

text: We should split up all the stuff about the order and put it into that article.  SJA from a worldwide sense is mostly about First Aid; teaching courses is the one common element everywhere; the brigade is the other.  everything else is limited to only specific countries, so we must be careful to mention that.  We should keep this article short and limit it to the worldwide commonalities; everything else should be on the country-specific pages.  Joezasada 05:40, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

text: At least in the UK St John Ambulance does just that, first aid training, first aid at public events, and providing patient transport / emergency transport (Acting as an emergency ambulance in incidents where there are not enough NHS ambulances available)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.159.51.45 (talk) 20:57, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not entirely true, there are a number of care homes around the UK which are run by St John Ambulance. Fees are charged and staff are certainly not volunteers. Richard Avery (talk) 18:49, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Such as? Thecaketin (talk) 10:09, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What do they do? 

message: We need to come to an understanding, something we can all agree to live with. There is continuous addition/removal of a simple little dot that is becoming a distraction to actual editing. 
As I see it, we have several options:
# St. with a dot, like the Article title
# St without a dot, like British corporate image
# St. and a preamble explaining the naming situation
# St and a preamble explaining the naming situation
What is your opinion and reasoning? Exit2DOS2000•T•C• 12:57, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I was formerly in favour of retaining the dot in this article, as this was how the Order of St John's website, which as far as I'm aware is the nearest thing to a central SJA website, rendered the name (example here). The Order's website seems to have recently been revamped and now uses the dotless version throughout - for example, see here - as well as the dotless logo now shown in the infobox, which is now used by several national associations. (Note that the Order's website and its corporate branding are distinct from those of SJA England.) However, doing a quick survey of the 16 national websites listed on the latter page, seven use the dot and nine don't. Given this lack of unanimity I think that deferring to the Order's usage is probably the most neutral compromise for the article title, but we should certainly mention that many national associations use the dot. --Kwekubo (talk) 13:45, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

text: In formal British English, where the Order of St John is based, St is the abbreviated form of Saint, whilst St. is the abbreviation of Street. This is due to the former consisting of the first and last letter of Saint, whilst the latter uses the first two letters of Street. I would favor the fourth suggestion of St and a preamble explaining the naming situation Cwd24 (talk) 18:42, 24 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Let me revive this discussion: Wikipedia style (and common understanding) is to use the official form. That would have been St. John in the past and is St John now. Unfortunately a simple move is not possible, because the targetname is already a redirection with history. I will see, how this is done. -- Tomdo08 (talk) 00:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Dot ? ... or Not ? 

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:St John New Zealand logo.svg

message: The latest incarnation of Doctor Who's TARDIS bares a St. John's Ambulance seal on the entry door. Citation needed.
Lex0nyc (talk) 22:02, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pop Culture 

message: FYI. --RegentsPark (talk) 14:41, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  move discussion at [[Talk:St._John_Ambulance_in_Hong_Kong]] 

message: This appears to me to be the logo of the order, not of St John Ambulance.  See, for example, their facebook page . Chemical Engineer (talk) 12:01, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo