Talk:Cornelius (musician)

message: I added some stuff which I don't think anyone would have a problem with, but I also used "Oyamada" instead of "Cornelius" in some of the sentences. He wasn't "Cornelius" when he was with Flipper's Guitar, and I'm pretty sure that he married Takako Minekawa as Keigo Oyamada, not Cornelius. Is this fine with everybody? I guess it would be most ideal if there were two separate entries - one for Oyamada and one for his Cornelius caeer - but I don't think there's enough material here to justfiy that... Poltergeist 07:35, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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message: Folks, I'm new to wikipedia, and this will be my first edit attempt, so forgive me if I step on some boundaries. I'm assuming that the editing/community system will correctly intercept my changes, reject or adjust them, etc. Estephan500 19:10, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  adding a bit on music style 

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message: While I recognize that if it is factual that Oyamada did the things attributed to him in the "Bullying controversy" section, it is worth including a summation of that (not, however, to the point where it comprises nearly half of the content of the article, aside from the discography). But the only "evidence" presented are references by other media outlets to what are claimed to be two interviews from the Japanese music magazines "Rockin'On Japan" and "Quick Japan". Despite considerable searching, I have not been able to find any on-line scans of those two interviews, and none of the media outlets which repeat the allegations provide anything more than characterizations and alleged quotes (rather than scans of the pages). But even if such scans could be found, what a magazine claims in its articles -- whether described as interviews or editorials -- are not the same as something being factual; magazines distort the facts with great frequency (Cf.  Rolling Stone's many recent untruths), and no one holds popular music magazines to the same journalistic standards as they might say, "The Atlantic" or "Time". It is not in any way inconceivable that the interviewer distorted Oyamada's words, or that he had been speaking facetiously, or some combination the two, and in lieu of the original recordings being made available, Oyamada should be given the benefit of the doubt. He now maintains that his words were selectively edited, that he was not given the opportunity to correct this at the time, and that his descriptions were of bullying he observed, not that he perpetrated or participated in. Again, everyone is presumed innocent unless proved guilty, and Oyamada's accusers have never provided such evidence, but he is nevertheless being condemned in the court of public opinion and maligned in this article. The section should be distilled to the minimum and clearly couched in terms that they are allegations, rather than established facts. Bricology (talk) 11:48, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You make a persuasive case — fix it! Popcornfud (talk) 12:12, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undue weight to accusations of bullying