Talk:Evolution of the Portuguese Empire

message: I find this map very misleading, as maps of these types often are.  The authors tend to get a bit overexcited about things.  The pink areas particularly are rather dubious - eg the eastern coast of Australia. The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick 22:43, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I made the anachronous map of the Portuguese Empire, and am willing to discuss all the details you may desire. Notice that eastern coast of Australia (see Theory of Portuguese discovery of Australia), as the territories in North America, are accompanied by question marks, clearly staing their dubious nature. I didn't "get a bit overexcited about things" - notice that, contrary to many "map makers", I didn't just coloured red all of India or Indonesia, but rather pointed directly to actual possessions, mainly cities and fortresses, marked red in precise locations (as precise as the scale permits). But do feel free to comment. I'm happly to reply to all I can. Thanks. The Ogre 15:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Discussed moved to Talk:Portuguese Empire.  The Red Hat of Pat Ferrick 15:50, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: Merbabu deleted the Banda Islands from the list, saying that "banda was never a portuguese possession. The portuguese were merely customers." I reverted him saying "Merbabu, that may be so, and I don't necessarily disagree with you, but could you provide some sources in the talk page and then del the link? Thanks!" And now I wait. The Ogre 12:59, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Firstly the fact is, wikipedia policy stipulates that the onus providing references is not on those that question unreferenced material, but those that want to keep it. see (Wikipedia:Verifiability#Burden_of_evidence). In theory, the whole article thus could be deleted But that is not my game, I just want to point out the nature of Portuguese involvement in the Bandas. My sources? Please read here, scroll down to the portuguese sub section. There is more that could go in there and more refs. I suggest the map will need changing to. And now I wait. ;) he he. kind regards --Merbabu 13:13, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Corrected the map concerning the color (red to pink) for the Banda Islands. The Ogre 15:22, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Banda Islands 

message: I do believe that the present version of the map does portray correctly the Portuguese presence in the whole of Indonesia - notice that in red are only marked the islands of Timor, Flores, Ambon, Ternate and Tidore. The pink areas are those of explorations, influence and commerce/trade. The Ogre 15:34, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds correct. There was also Solor but it probably gets included as part of Flores. Merbabu 21:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indonesia 

message: I suggest to put some maps of this period along the sections of the article. For example, in the section of South America we could put some maps of Brazil in the XVI century, and for other regions the same. What do you think?Câmara 02:05, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure! Do you have them? The Ogre 13:34, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

text: We could also show a mapa mundi of the Portuguese Empire, especially from the mid-late XVI century, as in the beginning East Asia was not good in maps... I like Lopo Homem 1554 as it is one of the few maps to show the line of Tordesillas and its anti-meridian (or maybe the line of Saragoza, I don't know).Câmara 22:18, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maps of this period 

message: Hello everyone. Please come to Talk:Spanish Empire#Map and participate in the discussion. It pertains to the inclusion of the Portuguese Empire in the territories of the Spanish Empire during the period of the Iberian Union from 1580 to 1640. Thank you! The Ogre 13:07, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map of the Spanish Empire 

message: Hi. I don't know Wikipedia's rules for editing a discussion, buy I just wanted to point out some information about this issue:
http://studioz.multiply.com/journal/item/862/862
http://noticias.terra.com.br/ciencia/interna/0,,OI1497806-EI295,00.html
These are written in portuguese, but there are probably english language sites about it. This theory is a bit old news, and I know these sites aren't exactly a source, but the book probably is. If someone would be interested in adding this information to the article, I don't quite know if I'm allowed to, or even how to do it. Cheers! 12:52, 15 Jan 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portuguese Map of Australia From 1522 

message: Evolution should be associated with biological aspects.
Dpleibovitz (talk) 21:18, 27 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename title to History of... 

message: Showing the whole of Canada as having been part of the Portuguese Empire because, for generations, Portuguese fishermen fished on and off the shores of Newfoundland, the whole of China because Portugal possessed microscopic Macau. Plus Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Iran, Irak, Japan, Peru, etc. etc, etc, etc. etc. as part of said Portuguese Empire...
What delirious trash. --Lubiesque (talk) 21:28, 29 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article and its fancy map are delirious trash