Talk:A. K. Gopalan

message: A great work. more to be added about the fights AKG had done towards the betterment of the poor people of the country
Its seems with Susheela was AKG's 2nd marriage.Any clues?I'll write once I come across something.--Sahodaran 04:34, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
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message: there seems to be a little confusion with regard to the position of the indian communists in the Sino-Indo Border War of 1962 for as is well documented the CPI supported the Chinese claim  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.178.183.96 (talk) 19:48, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
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Please help us determine consensus on this issue. --Guy Macon (talk) 17:38, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
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message: Hi! I noticed that you removed the category 'Indian communists' fromn A. K. Gopalan. Why? Vikram Vincent  03:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: He's in the subcategories  and : no need for him to be in the parent category as well. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 03:56, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  So while both the tags you mentioned are correct, AKG's work happens to precede the formation of the CPIM. He was with the undivided CPI along with role at the national level. From this perspective I think the 'Indian communists' category may be more appropriate than for communists post formation of CPIM. Vikram Vincent  04:08, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I do take your point, even if I'm not quite sure I agree; regardless I have no problem with it if you wish to undo my edits. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 04:17, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I came across a discussion elsewhere which said that if a sub-cat is more appropriate then that should be used instead of the overarching one. However, in this specific case along with communists pre-Indian independence, the Indian communist category might be more suited.  If you have a specific concern not addressed please do share. Let me see if I can clarify. Vikram Vincent  04:25, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's just that, in this instance, he belonged to two parties titled "Communist Party". To me, that implies that he was a communist - I don't see the need for him to be in the parent category as well, even if his involvement in communist politics predates the formation of the parties. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 04:28, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  so who would fit into 'Indian communist' category or rather what definition does that category hold? Vikram Vincent  04:42, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  To me, people who would fit into that category are people who held and expressed communist beliefs but were never formally members of any political party. Otherwise, I would place them in one of the subcategories. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 04:43, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  how can you be a communist if you are not part of a commune? :-) I don't think simply espousing a belief in isolation makes one a communist by the very definition of the term Vikram Vincent  04:52, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I would suspect the likeliest people for such a category would be journalists with communist newspapers, writers who wrote communist works, people of that sort. That said, mostly I would expect it to be a container category. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 04:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

text:  The 37 or so people currently in the category are correct. Removing them along with AKG won't be correct I feel as 'Indian communists' would be most accurate rather than the subcategories. Also, I don't think there are enough of the independents whom you mentioned. While container is apt, my suggestion is to also allow it to hold pre-independence figures like the current 37 or so, which can expand a bit more. Thanks. Vikram Vincent  05:09, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, as I say. If you wish to undo my edit, I don't mind - I don't agree, but I'll not fight it. Happy editing! --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 06:27, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

text: Thanks! What I will do is also try to draft a rationale based on our discussion to define the category. Vikram Vincent  06:39, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I might suggest making it about communists in general, rather than Indian communists specifically - I have a feeling this is a discussion that is likely to come up in multiple contexts. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 06:41, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  where do I post it? Vikram Vincent  09:19, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'd put it in draft space until getting other editors to comment on it. Ultimately, though, I would aim to make it a category hatnote, as that's where people will see it most easily. --Ser Amantio di NicolaoChe dicono a Signa?Lo dicono a Signa. 14:34, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  category: Indian communists