Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style/Disambiguation pages/Archive 15

message: After reading through Wikipedia:Disambiguation referenced in the above discussion #Parallel policy, I found a section which seems to contradict the way many dab pages are being created (from Wikipedia:Disambiguation#Examples):
On a page called Title, generally do not disambiguate:
* Title County 
* Title City
* Title Hospital
* Title University
You may want to disambiguate on the same page:
*TITLE and Title
*Title town and Title township
"Title Island", "Title River" or "River Title" may be worth listing in cases where the "Island"/"River" part is often omitted.
In most cases, do not list names of which Title is a part, unless the persons are very frequently referred to simply by their first or last name (e.g. Galileo, Shakespeare).
Take Morgan for example.  There are many people who aren't "frequently referred to simply by" the name 'Morgan'.  There are two 'Morgan City' and eleven 'Morgan County' listings as well as other 'Morgan Things'.  And there are also things which really aren't Morgans: Morganton, Morganville, Morgantown. —Mike 07:38, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Morgan County, Morganton, Morgantown, Morganville etc are all just contractions of "Morgan" and "town", really. It wouldn't suprise me at all it they were called Morgan locally. Thanks/wangi 13:53, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

text: In the later years of Lord Liverpool's administration, after the death of Lord Londonderry in 1822, strong dissensions existed in the cabinet. The Liberal section of the government was gaining ground. Canning became foreign minister and leader of the House of Commons. Huskisson began to advocate and apply the doctrines of free trade. Roman Catholic emancipation was made an open question. Although Lord Palmerston was not in the cabinet, he cordially supported the measures of Canning and his friends.
Let's see how well we do:
* Lord Liverpool is a redirect to Robert Jenkinson, 2nd Earl of Liverpool. Score one. (But if we'd wanted a different Lord Liverpool it wouldn't have worked out so well.)
* Lord Londonderry redirects to Charles Vane-Tempest-Stewart, 7th Marquess of Londonderry, which is not the one we want, nor is there a primary topic disambiguation to hint that there might be other Lords Londonderry (in this case we want Robert Stewart, Viscount Castlereagh).
* Canning is an article about food preservation, again with no primary topic disambiguation. (We want George Canning).
* Huskisson redirects to Huskisson, New South Wales, again with no primary topic disambiguation. (We want William Huskisson.)
* Lord Palmerston is a disambiguation page that names the one we want, but without the dates that would have confirmed that he was in politics in 1822. Score half. 
So that's one and a half out of five, which is pretty poor. It seems to me that this is exactly the question people turn to encyclopedias for ("this article talked about a Huskisson who was in the British government in the 1820s: who was he?") and our disambiguation page guidelines should be aimed at helping these people. Gdr 22:02, 5 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I see your point, although not all your examples require a change in policy. We could have dab page for titles like Lord Londonderry without a change in policy. Same for Lord Liverpool. The Palmerston page can be updated with correct dates without a change in policy. If you do a search  for "Huskisson" (rather than clicking go) William is the second entry. That leaves Canning, to which I can make no response. You might be on to something there. —Wahoofive (talk) 23:00, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What to include on a dab page