Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/Rhode Island Red

message: Shell edited out "How pathetic that Rhode Island Red is the only person who agrees with positive comments about him/her/it. Time to put the issue or editor to rest" because she had concerns. Or is it that Shell and Toothbar are the only two people in favor of allowing ONE single subject editor to control an article. Concerns Shell? The only concern should be to protect the neutrality of wiki.  my comment should stay and be considered when sanctioning Red! don't delete it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.71.28.186 (talk • contribs) 14:08, June 20, 2007
: I support Shell's deletion, because the comment was a violation of WP:NPA and was placed by an anon single-purpose account.  If you, 65.71.28.186, can figure out how to phrase your comment in a more civil way, then you're allowed to comment.  Or if you're actually willing to identify yourself, that too would give your comment more weight, but to be honest, using the word "pathetic" is just going to make most people ignore your comment anyway, so it doesn't really matter if it's deleted or not. Comments from anons and SPAs are also usually given very little weight. For best results, try to keep comments calm, civil, and articulate, as those have much more weight on Wikipedia. Also, please sign your comments with ~~~~ to datestamp them, thanks. --Elonka 16:12, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Comments like this anonymous IP's insulting and un-civil language do not help the position that s/he is advocating. I will consider your comment, 65.71.28.186. I have mentally noted it as, "anonymous, rude  SPA feels that all those who disagree with their position are biased." When discussing the issue of sanctions such as these - removing an editor from an article, and letting other people edit it instead, the accused editor's actions are important to consider. However, I will also look at the context and the other editors. If, say, one editor looks bad but the other editors look worse, removing one editor wouldn't fix the problems. In this case, 65.71.28.186 looks to be the sort of editor that I would not like to see working on this article. Bhimaji 17:25, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Anon Statment

message: The 9 other edits to which Salaskan referred were on the WP article on oxidative stress and did not include any "negative comment about Juice Plus", or for that matter, any comment whatsoever about Juice Plus. Can you please acknowledge this error in your previous statement? Rhode Island Red 20:19, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, my apologies for not thoroughly looking at those edits. I still stand by my point that you are way too focused on the Juice Plus article, though. SalaSkan 22:20, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Salaskan's view

message: This better explains what I meant by misleading statements used to open this RfC.  The claims made are highly dramatized and the hysterics by Mike Halterman below just add to the atmosphere. Shell babelfish 19:50, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You may disagree with my comments, and that's fine, but I backed them up with a diff so please do not try to discredit me by calling my comments "hysterics." It's not polite and I do not appreciate it. Thank you. Mike H. I did "That's hot" first! 03:27, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe we strongly disagree on the meaning and contents of the diff you provided.  Using hyperbole like "revenge RfC" and "deplorable" in your statement was what I was referring to as hysterics.  I apologize if the characterization offended you. Shell babelfish 04:31, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Response to Shell's endorsement of Rhode's response

message: Shell, I would like to comment on your statement that "There also seems to be a push to revisit issues discussed very throughly in the previous months; since there are now more proponents of JuicePlus on the talk page, a great deal of the text is being systematically white-washed and even removed all together."  
I view this as part of a cleansing process. Many of RIR's edit over the past year have led to a biased feel to the article (I have just documented in some detail the SN/AEMS example on the Juice Plus talk page), so it is only natural that some issues are going to be revisited. It's not a matter of white-washing, more a case of the pendulum swinging back towards the middle - a healthy process, surely?
We also need to ensure that it doesn't swing the other way! This is why I have not endorsed the call for a ban on RIR from editing the article. If the RfC results in a change of attitude (i.e. editing practice) on RIR's part, then it will have served a useful purpose. TraceyR 19:01, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Response to [[User:Shell Kinney|Shell's]] outside view