Talk:Fairy ring

message: * The article says they grow to 10 metres, but this article points to fairy rings grown to half a 
kilometer wide:
http://www.forteantimes.com/articles/141_faeryrings.shtml
:You are right fairy rings can grow up to hundreds of meters. Juan de Vojníkov 17:22, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You are not right in this case, cus fairy ring genet consist of more taxa. Juan de Vojníkov 17:22, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

text: You are right, lets implement your knoweledge into this article.Juan de Vojníkov 17:22, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

text: From what you say, it seems that the tree rings do not have any obvious cause, much less a fungal one.  That sounds more like the phenomenon described in Fairy circle (Africa) which that article says is unexplained. 24.27.31.170 (talk) 15:20, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Ooh, yes please! Casliber (talk · contribs) 13:20, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Size

message: I replaced a dead link to http://www.uio.no/conferences/imc7/NFotm99/October99.htm via the wayback machine and my link works but I'm not sure I used the template correctly. Please check it if you have the relevant knowledge. It is this link under "External links":
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Random Passer-by 01:56, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead link

message: I disagree with a statment: The effects on the grass depend on the type of fungus that is growing, when Calvatia cyathiformis is growing in the area grass will grow more abundently however Clitocybe gigantea will cause the grass to wither.Böttcher, Helmuth M. Miracle Drugs William Henemann Ltd. London 1963 p. 227 It is an old book. Refs should be based on scientific papers.--Juan de Vojníkov 16:32, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have a better reference that counters that statement, you can add it. -- Fyslee/talk 19:03, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  But I dont need to support the contrary idia via reference in this case. It is not my interest to cast doubt on not scientific paper. So I am going to remove this phrase, cus it could confuse people.--Juan de Vojníkov 14:29, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Your first statement seems to be a counterclaim and therefore needs referencing. The argument that the book is old isn't a valid argument. We write what we can source, and if we find better sources, then we use them. Do you have any better ones, especially that contradict this one? If not, it should stay. When you find something better, you're welcome to use it as a replacement. -- Fyslee/talk 15:12, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Well. Thats a bad idea to "write what we can source". This is a misunderstanding of the Wikipedia policy to beet the quality. If you are referencing something it should be serious and first source. It seems to me, that you dont understand, why I dont need to contra-reference this statment. So I will add some references and I will go for RfC, with this article. --Juan de Vojníkov 17:57, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It seems to me the statement should stand. In my personal observations, fairy ring damage does vary with species. Furthermore, the age of the book doesn't matter if there is no refuting citation, and lastly WP actually prefers to cite secondary sources like books, rather than primary sources which tend to lead to novel synthesis. Debivort 16:26, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. That I didnt know about that "secondary references". But anyway both mushrooms can couse all two effects (withering/necrotic grass; abundantly grow), because this doesnt depend on taxa specifity, but mycelia physiology as the reaction to environmental conditions. I may find out some references, but those will not fight with this statement. But this is Wikipedia, thank you for your point.--Juan de Vojníkov 17:09, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The amount of damage done by a fairy ring is largely dependent on whether it gets it's nutrient from the lawn soil, and thereby competes for nutrients while passing on nitrogen (eg) as a byproduct and thereby causing rapid green growth in the spring with dead zones later in the year (as in Marasmius oreades ((Common Fairy Ring Mushroom)), or whether it is in a mycorrhizal association with a tree or shrub planted nearby, producing sporocarps in a ring around the tree at the leading edge of the tree/plant root system. As such, they are much more independant of the lawn's nutritional needs and so not nearly as damaging. 
I realize it's more common to think of "fairy rings" as a ring of mushrooms arising from a saprophyte that often appears on lawns or way out in meadows, but the ones around trees have long been called such as well. They often appear so far out from the trunk that a partial ring or few caps wont be associated with a tree that they may be growing a full twenty or so feet away.--Mycos (talk) 01:53, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problematic statement 

message: In some ways, this is such an unusual article we are free to play with order. I have a book which talks of the evolution of observation, with a link between folklore and modern, as it discusses Robert Plot and his observations in his 1686 book Naturall History of Stafordhire, where he mentions fairies and witches as a cause, yet digs up the soil and notes finding the ground:
 
He later concludes lightning is the cause. Question is do we have a hsitory of scientific observation and where it goes. I did something similar in Sirius (now FA). Thoughts? Casliber (talk · contribs) 09:27, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have some notes on what early scientists thought, but it's not really in chronological order. Where would this information belong in the article? It should be somewhere, I think. — Dulcem (talk) 01:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Idea for order of article 

message: I've got quite a lot of information on fairy rings in Celtic folklore. A rough draft is in my sandbox. I wonder if a daughter article, fairy rings in Celtic folklore, is in order, with a summary for this page? — Dulcem (talk) 01:51, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yours is 13 kb long - I think the sceintific won't be much longer and 30 kb is minimum for a decent crack at FA. We can do the folklore up top, then segue into early science and modern stuff at bottom, as the folklore material is more prominent in this case I think. Have a play at rearranging as I am oopen to suggestions on it. Not hugely keen on a split. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 01:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My main concern was that the Celtic stuff will vastly outweigh the folklore from other regions. But we can give it a go, I think. The stuff in my sandbox is in rough-draft form, so I'll copy edit and consolidate references before I paste into here I think. — Dulcem (talk) 02:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh I see, never mind at the moment - look at the size of vampire which we got thru FAC...Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 02:08, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, dumped! — Dulcem (talk) 02:58, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Brilliant, we can think about splitting if it gets much over 100kb. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:35, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Celtic folklore

message: They  is  accounts of  tractors   flipping upside down when trying too    destroy     a fairy  ring.   They also have  been  road accidents    resulting from    roads  being built  on      fairy rings.   In Ireland    fairy   rings      are  surrounded by black hawthorn and  white  hawthorn. Walking into a fairy ring you won't get out  unless you  put what your  wearing inside out  as the faires won't  recognise you.  Its  just   folklore that I have been told.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.71.86.53 (talk) 15:52, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks - need some sources too, but I'll remember it when I (finally) go looking. :) Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:25, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  more   celtic  and Irish folklore 

message: Yet the entry describes only Western Europe - principally the British Isles.!184.145.94.21 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 00:04, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have come across any discussion referring to them elsewhere please add. We've been meaning to explore this topic for some time. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 01:11, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fairy rings figure in folklore worldwide 

message: I think this looks more like the marasmius oreades. Karel Adriaan (talk) 23:03, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: They are too big - Chlorophyllum molybdites is a common lawn mushroom in Australia. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:21, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image: "possibly Chlorophyllum molybdites" 

message: I'd really like if someone could find an appropriate reference to use for the spelling of "gallitrap", rather than "galley-trap." From a brief Google search, it seems that the spelling "gallitrap" is more commonly used than "galley-trap", the latter term possibly being a mis-spelling. Also, I can find no other sources that use the term "galley-trap". --UltimateKuriboh (talk) 19:52, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Galley-trap vs. Gallitrap