Talk:Nigella Lawson/Archive 1

message: Sorry for being an American, but why is this title here? Does she actually go by this title?  It seems to(sic) stuffy for Nigella.  Perhaps sh's (double sic) not as modern as she pretends.
:It is a style rather than a title, she is entitled to it because her father is a life peer. I wouldn't think for a moment that she actually uses it. Boddah 16:41, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Honourable" 

message: I do not believe that Nigella Lawson has the title of 'Honourable'. She turned down her OBE a number of years ago.
As a title, 'honourable' is bestowed on the children of peers and was assumed when her father became Baron Lawson after leaving the Commons. I agree however that it's a bit pompous to use it in the context of this article.
:The "Honourable" seems to have been removed, but I don't understand why it was pompous; it is simply a fact. Axel 01:17, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: According to the article she has no Sephardic ancestry. At the same time, it says she does have Jewish ancestry from the Netherlands. Forgive me, but Netherlander Jews are Sephardic. Perhaps it's the old saw of equating "Sephardic" with "Spanish/Spain," again? More likely, it's the mistake of equating "Ashkhenhazic" with "Europe."
Any more info? JBDay 05:15, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, not all the Jewish population of the Netherlands is Sephardic, there is also an Ashkenazi element that emigrated from Germany and Eastern Europe.  (Please see the article History of the Jews in the Netherlands for more information).  When she explored her ancestry as part of the BBC TV series, Who Do You Think You Are? Lawson stated that she believed she looked Sephardic and Latin in complexion, and naturally assumed that the Dutch side of her family would be Sephardic. She therefore expressed some disappointment that her ancestors turned out to be Ashkenazi instead. Indisciplined 20:53, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nigella's Ancestry 

message: "(In her newspaper articles she consistently showed a liberal attitude to sexual morality, even seeming to come close to admitting to bisexuality.)". Sexuality and sexual morality are different things entirely.. Secretlondon 09:06, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Entirely? Nothing ever seems entirely disconnected from everything else. Reading the article, it looks  as though she went as far as she felt she could in telling everyone to grow up about these matters. The sooner everyone accepts each other the better. I appreciate her writing so candidly.62.64.218.49 15:13, 29 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I concur, there's nothing about bisexuality that implies a specifically liberal attitude towards sexual morality; one can be “sexually moral“ and simultaneously straight, bi, gay, or whatever. The two are connected only by way of being aspects of one's sexual being.  Nevalicori 20:02, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I removed the phrase "even seeming to come close to admitting to bisexuality." While the referenced opinion piece does discuss bisexuality, it does not even come close to a statement of her personal sexuality. The sentence as it stood was emblematic of weasal words: Lawson is certainly writing about sexual morality in general; what has happened or is happening in her personal life is not addressed in the piece. Sam 15:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC)

text: She comes *nowhere near* saying she is bisexual, even writing "what would I feel if I were gay?". Again, morality is irrelevant here - in that article she is discussing the philosophical implications of a particular advertising campaigns. Morality is a non sequitur 80.175.181.113 18:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Link to column was removed; added it back without the weasal word phrase. It would be nice if people didn't keep adding it back it. I'm talking about you, JenAW. Sam 17:49, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sexual morality

message: In Hugh Fearnley-Wittingstall's book 'Hugh Fearlessly Eats-it-all' he criticises NL for her book 'forever summer' not respecting the seasonality of foods. Worth a mention? Sarahjeantaylor 21:04, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism

message: Is there any reason why people keep changing, "said she loves watching football" back to "admits to loving watching football?" Is loving to watch football somehow a crime or a evil deed? Sam 17:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Admits" to loving football

message: It is odd that she was "moved nine times during the ages of nine and eighteen." Was that nine times in both years, or five times in one and four times in the other? Or if (as is probable) it was between the ages of nine and eighteen, why not say it that way? Axel 01:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "During..."?

message: Isn't it worth noting in the "Personal Life" bit that Nigella Lawson was once the girlfriend of famous QC and television show host Geoffrey Robertson, who dumped her in 1988 in favour of Australian author Kathy Lette?  http://www.abc.net.au/austory/transcripts/s685468.htm  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.11.3.162 (talk) 22:52, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Geoffrey Robertson

message: I read here that Nigella has an impeccable Jewish pedigree, so I was surprised when I saw her on a recent cooking show chowing down on a pork chop like a starving Rottweiler, while moaning orgasmically and draping her hair in the sauce. Does being related to any number of earls and barons mean she is relieved of Jewish dietary obligations? 
Also, I read here that no less than three of Nigella’s close relatives have died of different “cancers” at different times. What IS that white powder in the little jar at the back of her larder? More work required here. Myles325a (talk) 00:25, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: She describes herself as non-observant, so I'm guessing not being a practising Jew relieves her of Jewish dietary obligations.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.146.18.21 (talk) 18:12, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, maybe if she practised being Jewish a little more diligently, she wouldn’t be carrying on like Michael Moore breaking a hunger strike. I eat pork all the time, and I was thoroughly disgusted. Myles325a (talk) 00:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nigella devours pork chop! 

message: The Nigella Express section reads that the author admits her recipes "were not that healthy." After having read the reference link and her actual book, this claim needs re-working. The recipes generally employ more prepared and processed ingredients than usual, but they are not anywhere near a majority and there is still plenty of whole food used as well. Also, the source material for the claim says that her actual words were that the recipes "aren't particularly healthy," in comparison to Jamie Oliver's "School Dinners" series for which the impact of diet on health was its primary focus.
"Not that healthy" and "aren't particularly healthy" connote two different things. It's a subtle difference, but significant. One suggests that something may actually be unhealthy, while the other indicates that healthiness was not a specific aim. Also, given the context of the source material, this seems misleading.
Thoughts?
75.157.128.84 (talk) 19:30, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe the comparing of Oliver's show to Lawson's was just an observation by the editor? I've now put the unhealthy part in Lawson's own words to avoid anything misleading. Any more thoughts? Eagle Owl (talk) 10:28, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Your reply got me thinking. After a bit of web-hunting, I think you may be right about the Oliver comparison being the writer's & not Lawson's. I did find this  article. As near as I can figure, it's the original source of the statement. Perhaps it's better fit here as a reference? About 12 paragraphs down, it offers a more complete version of what looks like the same quote. You can read the whole thought rather than 3 isolated words, so context becomes less of a question-mark. Cap'n Crust (talk) 22:59, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's done now. Thanks for the citation. Eagle Owl (talk) 13:21, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Not that '''[https://easyrecipes3.wordpress.com/ healthy recipes]'''? 

message: Nigella Lawson is listed at List of former pupils of Westminster School but the article states that she went to the Godolphin and Latymer school, can someone clarify this? Tmwerty (talk) 15:01, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education 

message: Under residence, in the infobox, it lists the street that she lives on  (?????????). it shouldn't say more than the district. --Tim1423 (talk) 10:09, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm taking a WP:BOLD step and deleting the street name from the above too. It defeats the object of prohibiting it in the article if it gets mentioned here. Roger (talk) 16:21, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Home Address