Talk:Two Minutes Hate

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: Orwell may have been influenced by the Guy Fawkes night holiday in British culture, in which people burn effigies of purported national enemies — historically Guy Fawkes, but today others can be used (in recent years figures have included Osama bin Laden and George W. Bush).
I would like to see some evidence of this, as it strikes me as completely unfounded and made up - where is the 'link' between Guy Fawkes Night and a '2 minute hate' ?
: Highly unlikely, and probably written by an American.  Guy Fawkes' certainly wasn't a new thing at the time Orwell was writing.  Can't say I remember any concept of burning Bush outside of Exodus.
Isn't it Two Minute Hate?--Acebrock 19:11, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just checked my copy of Nineteen Eighty-Four. It's "Minutes," plural. Hbackman 22:54, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
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message: The article is pointlessly short, and mostly composed of recapitulation of what is said in the Goldstein (which is the only that links it) or 1984 entry; it should be merged. --Malyctenar 12:04, 21 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Merging

message: I find it hard to see the proposed link between Remembrance Day's two minute silence and the Two Minute Hate speech. One is a poignant reminder of those who lost their lives in wars and how grateful we are to them to be alive and free, and the other is propaganda to brain-wash people into hating Goldstein. Ridiculous. Whoever wrote that needs his head checked out, because he's seeing hate everywhere.
: Deleted relevant section.
Although it could of course be argued that the two minutes silence to remember the hundreds of thousands of dead is pathetic and irrelevant and mocks the hundreds of thousands who died -two minutes for thousands of lives.  Some anti-war people say that glorifying the dead is not right whatever the reason -I disagree, but its possible because 1984 deals with anger and the evil of war, yet in reality positive things do come from war -of course 1984 is a dystopian novel so it can be idealistic.
I never made the connection between the Two Minutes' of Hate and Silence until I read your comment. Now that I have, I can't imagine that the link could've been anything other than intentional.  It fits completely with the Orwell's expositon of the true horror of everyday life in 1984. It is exactly those thing you associate with the Silence that Orwell warps to darkly ironic effect.  The Haters are being brainwashed to see exactly what you describe - hate everywhere. --81.159.161.115 (talk) 22:28, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Remembrance Day

message: The article currently uses the appellation Two Minutes' Hate, but my copy of the novel omits the apostrophe: Two Minutes Hate.  Intuitively, the apostrophe seems correct, but also appears to contradict most print versions.  I checked two other printings using Google Books and neither used an apostrophe.  Clarification?--195.113.90.23 (talk) 22:27, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, the apostrophe seems to be grammatically correct; but it is not present in the novel, so we have to stick to the title version. I have made the appropriate changes. – Richard BB 14:18, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minutes' or Minutes? 

message: "Russian T.V.'s Rossiya 1's attacks on the liberal opposition have been characterised as reminiscent of the 'two minutes of hate' in Orwells 1984 and Russian television has been used to portray Ukrainian troops as monsters during the War in Donbass. One of the most notorious examples was a (hoax) 2014 report on state-controlled Channel One TV that Ukrainian soldiers had crucified a three-year-old.[3]"
Actually the same could be said of a lot of Western media coverage of certain countries and people, especially in the Middle East. And Facebook.--176.58.92.198 (talk) 18:25, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It's reliably source. If you have reliable sources discussing the term as applying to Western, Eastern, or any other form of media, you're welcome to add it. WP:JUSTDONTLIKEIT is not an argument for removal. Please note, also, that this is an article talk page, not a WP:SOAPBOX. --Iryna Harpy (talk) 23:03, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Our students, teachers, intellectuals, public figures, and even ordinary citizens posting anonymous social media shaming don't need Thought Police because policing thoughts has become a mass DIY project. Examine any history textbook to see the Memory Hole at work on a scale undreamed of by Winston Smith doing his job at the Ministry of Truth and turning former luminaries into unpersons. Sally Hemings is now more revered than Thomas Jefferson. And Orwell's Inner Party comprised 2 percent of the population-grossly inclusive by the standards of our global 1 percent.
Building an encyclopedia is not difficult, but until the westerners, the conservatives, the liberals, the whites, the men, and other disruptive editors who feel they own wikipedia decide to become more accepting of contributions which they don't feel comfortable with, and until you are willing to put aside your aggression this encyclopedia will continue to be kept out of academia and will continue to serve as a tool used against the average personhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents/Statement_re_Wikilobby_campaign. Interstingly enough when Iryna decides to cite WP:SOAPBOX, it is not to rid the current advocacy against Putin, but to ensure that the Two Minutes of Hate happening in the article can have Putin's face as its target. The problem on this article extends to almost every single corner of wikipedia, and the community of active editors needs to eliminate the bureaucracy, welcome women and people of color by targeting harassment and incivility they face, and invest more time from each wikimania addressing these issues.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.197.160.241 (talk) 00:17, 2 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a good example 

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message: Can we please have more contemporary examples?
I think it should be easy to find some, the gist of the two minutes hate was quite simple; to sow fear, uncertainty and doubt, and with the current political climate in the USA and the overt use of political-attack advertisements I expected this article to be bigger. The [Attack_ad] article is basically full of examples of the 'two minutes hate' that Orwell wrote of, with routine being interrupted to engage in the activity.
122.102.109.173 (talk) 02:33, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It's obvious with all the moslems (with their big violent and perverted brotherhood) who irrationally hate the jews and terrorize civilized people while also trying to make out the peaceful jews as somehow being the bad guys. Fully one third of the world already believes this hate. 71.30.69.112 (talk) 02:18, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  More examples