Talk:Notary public

message: A civil law notary is NOT called a Notary Public, so should there be a separate entry for civil law notary.Alex756 09:16 Apr 25, 2003 (UTC)
:I have to disagree.  An attorney-at-law in the US is not he same as a barrister in England, but they fulfil analagous functions, and, unless you are going to break down every legal category into tiny sub-distinctions, I think it is appropriate to deal with civil law notaries and notaries public in common law jurisdictions. Legis 13:50, 21 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you mean that the articles should be merged or kept apart?  Both of you need to be more precise about what you want.  I personally feel that they should be kept separate with appropriate cross-references explaining the other type of notary and pointing to the other article.  A common law notary public is very different from a civil law notary.  In almost all of the United States, a notary public is not a lawyer, while a civil law notary is considered to be a civil law jurist (that is, a legal professional who performs quasi-lawyer functions).  --Coolcaesar 02:32, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In the civil law traditions, both civil law advocates and civil law notaries are considered to perform lawyerly functions, albeit different and sometimes overlapping. (As an interesting sidenote, in Canada, both Quebec advocates and Quebec notaries societies are member societies of the Canadian Bar Association, whereas provincial notary public societies are not.) --Aquarius Rising 06:23, 23 May 2006 (UTC)

text: A traditional difference between notaries and lawyers is notaries do not go to court and are involved in noncontroversial matters. Lawyers on the other hand are involved in controversy and go to court. Lawyers argue and debate, notaries do not. They are clearly different professions, that is the reason there is so much resistance among notaries in states like North Carolina where the Bar refuses to recognize the difference.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.35.93.17 (talk) 16:39, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: old stuff

message: "In almost all countries notaries are required to be experienced and additionally trained lawyers or to have undergone a long period of training to specifically be a notary. However, in 48 of the 50 US states (the exceptions being Louisiana and, to a degree, Florida) notaries public are not necessarily lawyers, which has led to acts performed by US notaries being regarded with some suspicion in other countries. Having said that, it should in fairness be noted that Louisiana (and lately to a limited degree Florida) notaries are well regarded."  WHAT DOES THIS MEAN?  In Louisiana, may nonlawyer notaries prepare legal documents?  The accepted practice apparently is yes.  The Louisiana attorney and notary statutes say no.  "well regarded" means what?  Is there any precedent case law or Louisiana Attorney General opinion on this?
:I've removed the "well-regarded" sentence.  I think it was trying to say that other countries are okay with notaries in these two states, who are lawyers.  But it was pretty clumsy, and the thought can be easily inferred.  If it does go back in, a source would be nice. John Broughton 15:53, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Often in countries a notary is also a lawyer, but in almost all these countries only 3 years (as opposed to 7 years as is normal in the US) of schooling is necessary to become a notary. Some poor third world countries have what they call lawyers that only have an equivalent of a high school diploma.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.35.93.17 (talk) 16:32, 10 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lawyers 

message: I have commented out the Louisiana section. It stated that Louisiana notaries could do anything lawyers could do except appear in court. Such a statement, if incorrect, could seriously mislead a reader foolish enough to depend on Wikipedia for legal information.
I put a fact template on the section four days ago, but no citation to support the claim has been added, which is why I have commented out the text. --Gerry Ashton 00:27, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Louisiana

message: The state specific sections need to be seriously trimmed and summarized.  There is no reason to provide such intricate details about everything respecting notaries in the U.S. Peyna 17:51, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  State specific sections 

message: I have reverted the edits of two unregistered users, User:141.150.47.104 and User:151.198.159.219 because they claim that Notary Public cannot Solemnize the rites of matrimony (Marriage ceremony) that only Priests, Ministers and Justices of the Peace are permitted which is totally and completely false, I direct you to Florida Secretary of State, Maine Secretary of State Notary Public handbook on Pages 8 and 9-10 and the South Carolina Secretary of State on Line 12 all state clearly that in these states Notary Public can Solemnize the rites of matrimony. Now that I have provided sufficient proof please don't change this again. Misterrick 01:14, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The sources of your information should be put into the article as references. Just in case you are not familar with the process, I'll do the first one as an example. --Gerry Ashton 01:19, 4 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I am already doing that right now. Misterrick 01:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed the one from Florida from a general item in the reference list to a footnote at the end of the appropriate sentence. In case you haven't seen it before, n.d. means no date, since the Florida web page did not contain a date. --Gerry Ashton 01:27, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed the Maine and South Carolina references to conform with the way you have the Florida Secretary of State reference set. Misterrick 01:48, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Solemnize the rites of matrimony (Marriage)

message: User:Wifistudios tells us, in the last two paragraphs of Notary public#Finding a Notary that by using Real Notary "you can access your personal notary online 24 hours a day via the Internet" and "This legal online notary process is allowed by the 'Electronic Notarization Act' of Florida since July 1, 2000, Section 1 of Senate Bill 1334, and can be found at: .
If this is meant to tell us that a person can have a Florida notary administer an oath or take an acknowledgement without meeting the constituent in person, I believe it is wrong. Reading the cited law, one realizes it is Florida's implementation of the Uniform Electronic Transactions Act. The organization that proposes uniform state laws, NCCUSL, refers to the a University of Pennsylvania law web ,  site. That site comments that the UETA 
...permits a notary public and other authorized officers to act electronically, effectively removing the stamp/seal requirements. However, the section does not eliminate any of the other requirements of notarial laws, and consistent with the entire thrust of this Act, simply allows the signing and information to be accomplished in an electronic medium.
For example, Buyer wishes to send a notarized Real Estate Purchase Agreement to Seller via e-mail. The notary must appear in the room with the Buyer, satisfy him/herself as to the identity of the Buyer
The organization that proposed the law, the NCCUSL, is described in a Wikipedia article. --Gerry Ashton 04:40, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Twenty-four hour Internet notary paragraphs?

message: I won't attach any tags, nor will I edit it myself since it would be original research, but as a notary public for the state of South Carolina, I'm almost positive the passage on SC is incorrect.  What happens is a state legislator must bring your commission in front of the General Assembly, who vote on them en masse usually.  I wrote a letter addressed to my county delegation, and received back a letter from my state senator informing me that he had approved and sent my nomination to the legislature.  The Secretary of State is notified of the appointment, and his office issues the certificate, bearing his and the governor's signature.  Beyond that, the governor has no part in the process.  The ten year term is correct, though, and we do perform weddings here.  Cheers! Chuchunezumi 09:37, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The South Carolina law that can be viewed at http://www.cis.org/articles/2003/back303.html seems to say that a county can allow individual legislators to nominate notaries, or all the county legislators can vote to nominate notaries. Apparently counties can change the method by notifiying the secretary of state about the change. I suggest you read that law and see if it agrees with your experience. --Gerry Ashton 16:53, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Questionable accuracy of South Carolina information

message: Notary public
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English notaries [are] not to be confused with commissioners of oaths
Can someone with some legal knowledge clear this up?  We should look into the possible need for a seperate article for Commissioners of Oaths in English law.
:I don't know anything about English law. I can tell you that many states have an office called "Commissioner of Oaths"; people from other states would be appointed as Commissioners of Oaths and would perform functions similar to a notary, but would act in the other states on documents that are to be sent to the appointing state. I don't know, but I suspect the office is a relic and few, if any, people are appointed to the office in modern times. Also, some states, such as Vermont, allow their notaries to act out of state on documents that are to be recorded in the state, so their notaries are effectively commissioners of oaths too. --Gerry Ashton 15:36, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction 

message: I am a Notary in Tennessee..can I notarize my family members signature?
Thank you  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.130.54.42 (talk) 14:35, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notarizing family members signatures 

message: I'm sorry I have not the time to make this Wiki-friendly, but maybe someone else has the time to make a pretty table out of this?
LexisNexis 50 State Comparative Legislation / Regulations		
		
Notaries Public (February 2008)		
STATE	Section Cite	Subject matter
AL	Statutes:	
	Code of Ala. § 36-20-1 et seq	Notaries Public 
	Regulations:	
	Ala. Admin. Code r. 820-6-1-.01 et seq	Civil Law-Notaries Division 
AK	Statutes:	
	Alaska Stat. § 44.50.010 et seq	Notaries Public 
AZ	Statutes:	
	A.R.S. § 41-311 et seq	Notaries Public 
	Regulations:	
	A.A.C. § R2-12-1101 et seq	Notary Public Bonds and Fees 
	A.A.C. § R2-12-1201 et seq	Electronic Notary
AR	Statutes:	
	A.C.A. § 21-14-101 et seq	Notaries Public 
CA	Statutes:	
	Cal Bus & Prof Code § 22454 et seq	Professional Photocopiers; Notary Public Requirement 
	Cal Fam Code § 530 et seq	Approval of Notaries to Authorize Confidential Marriages 
	Cal Gov Code § 8200 et seq	Notaries Public 
	Regulations:	
	2 CCR 20800 et seq	Notary Public 
CO	Statutes:	
	C.R.S. 12-55-101 et seq	Notaries Public 
	Regulations:	
	8 CCR 1505-11	Rules Concerning Electronic Notarization 
CT	Statutes:	
	Conn. Gen. Stat. § 3-94a et seq	Notaries Public
	Conn. Gen. Stat. § 7-33a	Issuance of Certificate of Authority, justices of peace, notaries and Superior Court commissioners
DE	Statutes:	
	15 Del. C. § 216	Department of Elections; Notaries Public
	29 Del. C. § 4301 et seq	Notaries Public
DC	Statutes:	
	D.C. Code § 1-1201 et seq	Notaries Public
	Regulations:	
	CDCR 17-2400 et seq	Notaries Public 
FL	Statutes:	
	Fla. Stat. § 116.35 et seq	Notary Public Commissions; Notary Fees; Notaries Public; International Notaries 
	Regulations:	
	1C-18.001, F.A.C.	Civil Law-Notary 
GA	Statutes:	
	O.C.G.A. § 45-17-1 et seq	Notaries Public 
GU	Statutes:	
	5 GCA § 33101 et seq	Notaries Public
HI	Statutes:	
	HRS § 456-1 et seq	Notaries Public
ID	Statutes:	
	Idaho Code § 51-101 et seq	Notary Public  
IL	Statutes:	
	5 ILCS 312/1-101 et seq	Notary Public 
	Regulations:	
	14 Ill. Adm. Code 176 et seq	Notary Public Records
IN	Statutes:	
	Burns Ind. Code Ann. § 33-42-1-1 et seq	Notaries Public 
IA	Statutes:	
	Iowa Code § 9E.1 et seq	Notarial Acts 
	Regulations:	
	721 IAC 43.1(9E) et seq	Notarial Acts 
KS	Statutes:	
	K.S.A. § 53-101 et seq	Notaries Public 
	Regulations:	
	K.A.R. § 7-43-1 et seq	Electronic Notarization
KY	Statutes:	
	KRS § 423.010 et seq	Notaries Public and Commissioners of Foreign Deeds 
LA	Statutes:	
	La. R.S. 35:1 et seq	Notaries Public and Commissioners   
ME	Statutes:	
	4 M.R.S. § 951 et seq	Notaries Public
	Regulations:	
	CMR 29-250-700	Rules Governing Eligibility and Procedures for Appointment and Renewals of Notaries Public 
MD	Statutes:	
	Md. STATE GOVERNMENT Code Ann. § 18-101 et seq	Notaries Public
	Regulations:	
	COMAR 01.02.08.01 et seq	Notary Public Fees 
MA	Statutes:	
	ALM GL ch. 222, § 1 et seq	Justices of the Peace and Notaries Public 
	ALM GL ch. 262, § 41	Costs and Fees; Notaries Public 
MI	Statutes:	
	MCLS § 16.133	Notaries Public; Delegation of Power 
	MCLS prec § 55.261 et seq	Notaries Public 
MN	Statutes:	
	Minn. Stat. § 357.17	Notaries Public 
	Minn. Stat. § 359.01 et seq	Notaries Public
MS	Statutes:	
	Miss. Code Ann. § 25-33-1 et seq	Notaries Public
MO	Statutes:	
	§ 486.100 R.S.Mo. et seq	Commissioners of Deeds and Notaries Public 
	Regulations:	
	15 CSR 30-100.010 et seq	Notary Commissions 
MT	Statutes:	
	Mont. Code Anno., § 1-5-401 et seq	Notaries Public; Notarial Acts 
	Regulations:	
	MONT. ADMIN. R. 44.15.101 et seq	Notary Publics 
NE	Statutes:	
	R.R.S. Neb. § 33-102	Notary Public; Fees 
	R.R.S. Neb. § 33-133	Notary Public; Fees; Government Employees 
	R.R.S. Neb. § 64-101 et seq	Notaries Public 
NV	Statutes:	
	Nev. Rev. Stat. Ann. § 240.001 et seq	Notaries Public
	Regulations:	
	NAC 240.010 et seq	Notaries Public 
NH	Statutes:	
	RSA 455:1 et seq	Notaries Public and Commissioners 
	RSA 456-B:1 et seq	Uniform Law on Notarial Acts 
NJ	Statutes:	
	N.J. Stat. § 52:7-10 et seq	Notaries Public
	Regulations:	
	N.J.A.C. 10A:6-2.10	Notary Public Service 
NM	Statutes:	
	N.M. Stat. Ann. § 14-12A-1 et seq	Notary Public 
	Regulations:	
	1.18.370.311 NMAC	Notary Public Application and Current Bond Fund Files
	1.18.370.322 NMAC	Notary Public Application  
	1.18.370.351 NMAC	Notary Public Listings 
NY	Statutes:	
	NY CLS County § 534	County clerk; appointment of notaries public
	NY CLS Exec § 130 et seq	Department of State; Appointment, Certificates, Signatures, Powers, and Duties of Notaries
NC	Statutes:	
	N.C. Gen. Stat. § 10B-1 et seq	Notaries 
	Regulations:	
	18 N.C.A.C. 7B.0101 et seq	Notary Public Division
ND	Statutes:	
	N.D. Cent. Code, § 44-06-01 et seq	Notaries Public 
OH	Statutes:	
	ORC Ann. 147.01 et seq	Notaries Public 
OK	Statutes:	
	49 Okl. St. § 1 et seq	Notaries Public 
	Regulations:	
	O.A.C. § 655:25-1-1 et seq	Notary Public 
OR	Statutes:	
	ORS § 194.005 et seq	Notaries Public
	Regulations:	
	Or. Admin. R. 160-100-0000 et seq	Notaries Public 
PA	Statutes:	
	42 Pa.C.S. § 6105	Acts of Notaries Public 
	57 P.S. § 31a et seq	Notaries Public 
PR	Statutes:	
	4 L.P.R.A. § 2001 et seq	Notarial Practice 
RI	Statutes:	
	R.I. Gen. Laws § 42-30-1 et seq	Notaries Public and Justices of the Peace 
SC	Statutes:	
	S.C. Code Ann. § 8-21-140	Fees of Notaries Public 
	S.C. Code Ann. § 26-1-10 et seq	Notaries Public and Acknowledgment 
SD	Statutes:	
	S.D. Codified Laws § 18-1-1 et  seq	Notaries Public 
	Regulations:	
	ARSD 5:04:03:01 et seq	Notaries Public
TN	Statutes:	
	Tenn. Code Ann. § 8-16-101 et seq	Notaries Public 
	Tenn. Code Ann. § 8-21-1201	Fees Charged; Notaries Public 
	Regulations:	
	Tenn. Comp. R. & Regs. R. 1360-7-2-.01	Notary Publics 
TX	Statutes:	
	Tex. Gov't Code § 406.001 et seq	Notary Public 
	Regulations:	
	1 TAC § 87.1 et seq	Notary Public
	28 TAC § 252.501 et seq	Notaries Without Bond
UT	Statutes:	
	Utah Code Ann. § 46-1-1 et seq	Notaries Public Reform 
	Regulations:	
	U.A.C. R154-10-502	Notary Acknowledgment by Electronic Communication
VT	Statutes:	
	24 V.S.A. § 441 et seq	Notaries Public 
VA	Statutes:	
	Va. Code Ann. § 47.1-1 et seq	Notaries and Out-of-State Commissioners 
VI	Statutes:	
	3 V.I.C. § 771 et seq	Notaries Public 
WA	Statutes:	
	Rev. Code Wash. (ARCW) § 42.44.010 et seq	Notaries Public 
	Regulations:	
	WAC § 308-30-005 et seq	Notaries Public 
WV	Statutes:	
	W. Va. Code § 29-4-3 et seq	Notaries Public and Commissioners 
	W. Va. Code § 29C-1-101 et seq	Uniform Notary Act 
	Regulations:	
	W. Va. CSR § 153-22-1 et seq	Rules of Procedure for Contested Case Hearings Dealing with Denials and Revocations of Notary Public Commissions 
WI	Statutes:	
	Wis. Stat. § 20.919	Notary Public 
	Wis. Stat. § 137.01	Notaries 
WY	Statutes:	
	Wyo. Stat. § 32-1-101 et seq	Notaries Public 
	Regulations:	
	WCWR 002-007-001 et seq	Notary Rules 
Ratherthanlater (talk) 15:22, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notary Authority Statutes for 50 U.S. States 

message: Could "the other reason being that in England and Wales and many other common law jurisdictions in practice only matters with an international element need to involve notaries[3], and almost all notaries are also qualified lawyers. " in the overview section be split from the preceeding part of the sentence? Its long and slightly confusing at the end. Fab 29/09/09  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.111.38.36 (talk) 19:10, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sentence clarification 

message: i would like to ask,does notary public concerned on self compliance against anyone???like for example, libelity???, does txt messages are valid proof to accused anyone????  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.54.32.101 (talk) 02:24, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  concerning self compliance against anyone 

message: Looking through the article history, this article does not seem to observe any consistent citation format. Is there any opinion about what format would be most appropriate? In the absence of other opinions I would be inclined to use short footnotes based on the Chicago Manual of Style documentation one style. Jc3s5h (talk) 17:05, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation format 

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message: Article cites Bernal as rendering the requirement of being a US citizen unconstitutional.
The article does not note that at least 5 states still maintain that requirement:  Kansas, Missouri (see page 16), Oklahoma, Rhode Island and South Carolina.
Since an encyclopedia is supposed to be fact based rather than aspirational, deviations from Bernal ought to be noted.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.175.109.15 (talk) 01:20, 9 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  US citizenship requirement and Bernal decision 

message: The articles asserts without citation that notaries in the US are appointed in "some cases [by] the state legislature ... "
This source says notaries are appointed by the following:
Secretary of State 78% of the states
Counties 10% of the states
Various (Attorney General, Department of Licensing, Governor or Treasury) 8% of the states
Lieutenant Governor 4% of the states
I see no mention of legislatures.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.175.109.15 (talk) 00:36, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appointment by state legislature in the US 

message: "Oregon law specifically prohibits the use of the term "notorio publico" by a notary in advertising his or her services, but translation of the title into other languages is not restricted."
This statement misrepresents the statute (and misspells notario). Specifically:  (5) A person may not use the term “notario publico” or any equivalent non-English term, in any business card, advertisement, notice, sign or in any other manner that misrepresents the authority of a notary public. [194.162 1989 c.976 §23] 24.236.234.131 (talk) 14:33, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oregon notary public translation 

message: When a new power of attorney is named does the notary or lawyer doing the swearing have to notify the old power of attorney in writing that she or he no longer power of attorney (In Nova Scotia)? rp  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.241.29.157 (talk) 23:46, 8 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  power of attorney 

message: Someone has created this article, which is effectively a duplicate. Do we keep it? Redirect it? use it? Can someone help? Gbawden (talk) 09:26, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Notary public (United States)]] 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Note that the page Notary also exists, and this page states "Notary public (aka Notary)", so I guess these should be merged? Or shouldn't they? I'm confused
2A02:A45E:6559:1:F8A4:EEE:7292:2D3 (talk) 09:26, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: In theory, Notary is supposed to describe the overall concept, with Notary public and Civil law notary describing types of notaries as specific to the jurisdictions where these different offices exist. Ibadibam (talk) 16:58, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  notary vs notary public