Talk:Italian language

message: Why is this mentioned here? How is Ligurian relevant to Italian? Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 20:45, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Shareable comment: I deleted the reference to the Ligurian. --LukeWiller (talk) 21:14, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Similar problem with this, in the sense that in the 1860s, it's very unlikely that the population described knew Italian: In the French department of the Alpes-Maritimes there is an autochthonous Italian population dating from the Savoyard Kingdom of Sardinia, which controlled the area until 1860, the year the Treaty of Turin entered into force, regardless of the more recent Italian immigrants of the 20th century. Somebody apparently thought there was relevance to the topic Italian language -- what would that relevance be? Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 22:57, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  This is also a shareable comment: I deleted the sentence. --LukeWiller (talk) 09:31, 9 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ligurian is recognized as a regional language in the French department of the Alpes-Maritimes 

message: The early forms Tuscan and Florentine directs to the modern dialects of Italian, although is likely that the Tuscan and Florentine variety was a previous form of the modern one. Wouldn't that be a mistake? Francesco Miracapillo (talk) 23:01, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you flesh out the question to clarify what it is you're asking? An historically earlier form of either was obviously a previous form of the modern form of either. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 00:07, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes but the one that is referring to, in the page, is the modern form of those. For instance, if you click on the "Florentine" link it will take you back to the page of the modern Florentine dialect, instead what it refers to is probably the Florentine of 1300, which for sure was pretty different. I was wondering if it wasn't better to either remove the link, or find another solution. Francesco Miracapillo (talk) 22:41, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems to me the solution is to improve the article on Florentine -- assuming it should exist in the first place, rather than as a sub-category within Tuscan. As it stands, the article labeled Florentine contains very little that's unique to Florence, the reason for the existence of the list under Examples is unexplained (mostly to illustrate subject clitics and use of ci with avere, neither of which is solely Florentine?), and there is no history. One reference is uninformed dilettantism containing outright falsehoods. The two serious references are good, but they seem to have been mostly ignored, and more are needed, most obviously, among other sources, Neri Binazzi's work. Bref, the problem isn't the link to Florentine, but the contents of the Florentine article. Barefoot through the chollas (talk) 14:18, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early forms 

message: I just removed a newly created map, for the following reasons:
*The map has no sources supporting it;
*In the map there are macroscopic errors. Among them:
**In Corsica and Nice nowadays there is no native Italian speaking minority anymore;
**In Central Italy, Italian has been traditionally spoken by minorities only in Tuscany (Florence, Siena) and Rome;
If someone wants to restore the map, please before doing that bring sources which support it (at best on Common). Thanks,
Alex2006 (talk) 10:53, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure how to change it, also Toronto is labeled where Detriot is Reddogisguilty (talk) 23:13, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  OR Map removed 

message: Perhaps "human mind and body" or something like that instead?
Original: "During this time, long-existing beliefs stemming from the teachings of the Roman Catholic Church began to be understood from new perspectives as humanists—individuals who placed emphasis on the human body and its full potential—began to shift focus from the church to human beings themselves." 205.178.63.9 (talk) 23:38, 2 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change "human body" in the sentence on humanism?