Talk:Syfy/Archive 1

message: Changed name to:
1. Use Correct Corporate Name
2. Help avoid confusion with U.K. channel, which is not the same
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I was under the impression that the U.K. channel was simply called Sci Fi without the word "Channel"
-JonMoore 08:55, 20 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: Does this merely include B-movies not produced by their film productions or simply anything aired thereon that's a film?
DrWho42 23:52, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Movies Shown on SciFi? 

message: I noticed that many Sci Fi Channel movies and miniseries get relesed on DVD (such as Man with the Screaming Brain, Alien Apocalypse, Alien Lockdown, The Dune Miniseries and so-on, all of which are availible at Amazon.com), does anyone know where I can find out about upcoming Sci Fi Chanel DVD releases? Specifiacially, I am wondering if they will release Mammoth (film) on DVD, and when that might happen.
*I'd like to know that too. It would be great if Mammoth came out on DVD becuase I'm a fan of Summer Glau (who stars in Mammoth) and would love to own the DVD version of the movie. 151.203.160.169 06:57, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sci Fi channel DVDs 

message: Moved the list to: List of Sci Fi Channel (United States) programs. It was overpowering the main article about the network. Some non-archival information may need to be re-imported to flesh out some of the paragraphs. - Davodd 06:55, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of Sci Fi Channel (United States) programs]] 

message: I have tagged this article for POV and innaccuracy reasons. (see Below)
ORIGINAL TEXT:There are a growing number of cable viewers who feel that the network has lost focus from its founding principles. Critics site programming like Braveheart, the NBC soap opera Passions, WWE wrestling (aired in May 2006) and episodes of Law & Order: Special Victims Unit (aired in May 2006) , as these programs have little relevance to science fiction. For the time being, it seems science fiction will only be relegated to special event programming (like The Triangle, aired in December 2005) and the very few original series that SCI FI does air that can be classified as science fiction, like Battlestar Galactica and Eureka and The Dresden Files, planned for the 2006-2007 season.
POV Phrases: 
#"and the very few original series that SCI FI does air"
#"these programs have little relevance to science fiction"
#"it seems science fiction will only be relegated to special event programming"
Innacurracies:
# Citing of the mysterious and unnamed and uncited "them":
#:- "There are a growing number of cable viewers who feel"
#:- "Critics site"
# Wrong information:
#:- "the NBC soap opera Passions ... (has) little relevance to science fiction."
:::Reason: Passions, although a soap opera, is a supernatural soap opera with witches, golems and magic.
- Davodd 07:12, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV and Cleanup issues need addressed 

message: The following was moved to this talk page from the main article for POV and accuracy reasons noted above. Please feel free include facts from the below info in the main article once they are cited and checked for accuracy. - Davodd 19:29, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved from Article to talk page 

message: Frankly, as several viewers of the channel are well-aware, there is a definate difference betwixt the two eras.. I think there should be a segment written up concerning thereto. DrWho42 00:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contrast betwixt 1992-1998 Sci-Fi Channel and the Bonnie Hammer era 

message: There should be a segment of the article concerning the website itself and the message boards therein as has G4 has done. DrWho42 02:42, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SciFi.com 

message: SCI FI Magazine and SCI FI Wire should definitely be expanded and mentioned upon this article. Preferably subscribers or people who frequent that isle of the Internet... DrWho42 06:35, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two articles to mention/expand upon... 

message: I've recently seceded the list of B-movies from List of Sci Fi Channel (United States) programs so that it could prosper on its own.. If any one of you can do their part to improve this article or its corresponding articles, please feel free to do so. Personally, I've got around to doing the ones for Savage Planet, The Snake King, and The Harpy. DrWho42 06:42, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Sci Fi Pictures original films]] 

message: I've read the article history and some of the editors are doing a good job so far.  However, I'd still advise those tempted to put this info onto the article not to do so.  Also, look here.  I haven't found it, so it looks like it has been deleted. -- CRiyl 16:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I readily admit and apologize for my mistake -- I had no idea PR Web was a site anyone could submit anything to.  However, isn't it kinda telling that such a hoax could begin in the first place, and was believed by so many (I saw it mentioned on several messageboards I frequent, and no one thought it was a hoax until I later told them otherwise)?  What does that say about the Sci-Fi Channel?  (Yeah, yeah, I know, Wikipedia is not a messageboard or soapbox... just venting.) --Dr Archeville 12:05, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PRWeb "Press Release" 

message: Frankly, it seems as out-of-place as M. Night Shyamalan hoax, but I think that the forementioned section would be much better off under Sci Fi original programming in either this article or List of Sci Fi Channel (United States) programs. Anyone agree with me? DrWho42 00:48, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sci-Fi Friday section. 

message: Should the (United States) be dropped from the title? I mean the Sci Fi channel is availible in more than just the USA so its probably better to drop it? Discuss. FireBadger 13:10, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The (United States) is just there to disambiguate the entry, check out the Sci Fi Channel link, you can see that there are several different channels throughout the world using that name (although they all appear to be affiliated with this one). Cogswobble 13:03, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  United States? 

message: The article says "Isaac Asimov [was] among those on the advisory board.", but the Issac Asimov article says he died in April 1992, a few months before the channel's launch. Is that a mistake? —Saric (Talk) 23:48, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, its not a mistake.  He was on the advisory board.  This channel was a long time coming, and Asimov was on the board for a long time as well.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.84.19.246 (talk) 04:30, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date problem 

message: To whoever uploaded that, thanks. 72.185.241.146 23:43, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 1999 Logo

message: "As a placeholder for those who were about to receive the Sci Fi channel on cable, a loop of a fly through space in first-person perspective was shown, with a countdown clock in the corner that told viewers exactly when Sci Fi would begin programming. This went on for at least two months before the channel's inception."
I know the fact that this was a countdown,but what is a "loop of a fly through space"?
:Ever seen the "fly through space" windows screensaver? Yeah. Same deal. ~  PHDrillSergeant...§ 03:31, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I don't get this trivia fact. 

message: Now that the 1999-2003 Sci-Fi logo has been added into the thumbnails, and the History section makes mention of the currently used network bumpers, I now think the history section should be expanded, in certain ways:
It should explain that from 1992 to 1999, the Sci-Fi Channel's main focus was on science fiction-related pop culture (this was during the time at which the original blue rendition of the "Saturn logo" was used). Before the cable channel was widely carried on United States receivers, Sci-Fi's core programming consisted of shows that took people behind the scenes at '90s fan conventions for many science fiction franchises that were popular at the time (many of which are still popular today). The "blue Saturn" logo had periodic variations in addition to the one seen on the article's thumbnail; during each Fourth of July, the "outer ring" would turn red but the "planet" and the text "Sci-Fi Channel" would retain their normal colors of blue and white, making the logo resemble the colors on the American flag; during each Halloween season, the entire logo would turn orange to resemble the color of a pumpkin; and every Christmas season the entire logo would turn green to resemble holiday colors. And all the network bumpers either showed famous movie or TV clips or a head talking with outerspace as the background. By the time Sci-Fi was widely carried circa 1997, people started e-mailing requests to the channel to focus less on pop culture and more on the genre's actual entertainment, so in 1999 Sci-Fi updated their original "Saturn logo" by dropping the text in the center and changing the color from blue to clear (it should be noted that the newly-uploaded 1999 logo in the thumbnail actually had the words "SCI FI" appear below it during promos for their programming (but not in the on-screen bug during programming or during network promos), meaning that whoever it was who uploaded that image only included part of the logo); subsequently, they changed their primary focus to the genre's actual entertainment and launched their Friday night lineup that's still in use today, only the programs were different (Poltergeist, Farscape, Sliders, and First Wave) during the initial launch of their core lineup than they are today. This change was also done to make themselves more like their sister channel USA, which always dealt primarily with entertainment. From 1999 up until 2003, all the network bumpers showed high-tech interactions between humans and cybernetic machinery, with graphics closely resembling those found in the 1999 blockbuster film The Matrix. Occasionally there were network bumpers that dealt with the cybernetic machinery itself and didn't include the appearance of any humans. By the early 2000's, Sci-Fi had become a rather mainstream cable channel, and to emphasize their focus on mainstream science fiction entertainment, they launched another new logo in 2003; this logo featured a geometrical outline of "Saturn" and the words "Sci Fi" to the right of it (the whole logo appeared during programming as the bug on the bottom-right corner, unlike the previous logo); they then made their Friday night programming even more mainstream with the smash hit remake of Battlestar Galactica as well as two Stargate spin-offs (SG-1 and Atlantis). This logo, focus, and programming lineup variation is still in use today. I think the History section should be expanded to include this important information. 72.185.241.146 23:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible expansion 

message: This entry incorrectly states that Sci-Fi Channel was the first to show ST:TAS on cable. Nickelodeon was the first to air it back in the 80s. Aristan 02:37, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not the first to show ST:TAS on Cable 

message: I removed this section, as, first of all, it is unlikely that this is an important aspect of the sci fi channel, and secondly, some of its claims are dubious. For example, it contained the unbelievably unlikely line, "almost all the nation's TV critics, who on the 2nd Day of the tour were already being denied or ignored about their questions/requests on Farscape, screamed almost in unison, "No, we want answers now!".  --Xyzzyplugh 03:09, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed farscape cancellation section

message: That was printed in Washington Post, etc. Source info also listed
after item in question. Check out the Farscape listing on Wikipedia as well as many a s/f news fan sites and Farscape sites as well. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spaceman42 (talk • contribs) 06:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is a link I managed to find to the actual story, contained in the internet archive.  .  I recommend rewriting this section to not contain the obviously silly line about the critics all screaming in unison.  I still find it to be highly doubtful that this incident is somehow important enough in the history of the sci fi channel that it even belongs in this article, but I'll let those who care about this article more than I do deal with that issue.  --Xyzzyplugh 12:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Source Material on Farscape cancellation

message: Whoever keeps adding this ridiculous paragraph about Jaws "definitely not" fitting in with the rest of Sci-Fi's programming, please stop. The first paragraph of the article establishes that the channel specializes in "science fiction, fantasy, horror, and paranormal programming," and the channel frequently shows other horror films like The Shining and made-for-TV dreck like House of the Dead II. Good luck finding a single person who doesn't consider Jaws a horror film. DT29 19:28, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have deleted the entire bit about "Jaws" not being a horror film. The Jaws main article says "Jaws was #48 on American Film Institute's 100 Years... 100 Movies, a list of the greatest American films of all time, and #2 on a similar list for thrillers, 100 Years... 100 Thrills. It was #1 in the Bravo network's five-hour miniseries The 100 Scariest Movie Moments (2004).[12] The shark was anointed #18 on AFI's 100 Years, 100 Heroes and Villains." It's article describes it as a "horror-thriller". (Ghostexorcist 19:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Jaws''

message: I've watched the Scifi channel ever since it's inception. Back in the day, my parents owned one of those huge satellite dishes that had a motor that rotated it towards the satellite that broadcasted the channels a person wanted to watch. I remember the Scifi channel was on satellite G5, channel 4. I don't recall seeing this in the article. I think it should be noted since I think it was only available on satellite at the time. Here are some pages that mention G5-4: , , . I lived in Tennessee at the time, but I've run across pages from Ohio and other states that claim it as G5-4.(Ghostexorcist 06:04, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Satellite Channel 

message: This particular section needs to be cleaned up. I'm not quite sure of the meaning some of the sentences are meant to convey. Any help on this would be appreciated. The reason I do this here is because I am not aware of how to recommend a page for clean-up otherwise. 
Emptyandgray 11:17, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Farscape Cancellation Section 

message: Does anyone know what shows are broadcast on the ani-monday lineup?
Current shows being broadcast are Noein, Tokko, and the 4-part OVA version of Macross Plus. In addition, the first broadcast of Ani-Monday featured the U.S. premiere of the movie Ghost in the Shell: S.A.C. Solid State Society, and the week before that, the movie Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within was shown, though I don't know if that had anything to do with the current programming block. I also don't know what shows are planned for future broadcast. --Dinoguy1000 Talk 23:45, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems that Street Fighter II V is replacing Macross Plus now. --Dinoguy1000 Talk 16:30, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ani-monday 

message: "This channel also aired the popular TV series Stargate SG-1 which was canceled after its 10th season, making it the longest run Science Fiction series ever (surpassing the X-files at 9 seasons). SG-1 is still run in syndication on Sci-Fi Friday and Monday."
I think the title of world's longest scifi series goes to Dr. Who. 
Stargate has aired 247 episodes while Dr. Who has 737(600+ consecutively) and more episodes are in production. 
But if you're talking North American shows, I think Stargate does get the title.
Hope this helps with the page!
--TheDelphi 04:02, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longest Science Fiction TV series 

message: Why no mention in the investigative shows on Sci-Fi? These would include, Destination Truth, Ghost Hunters, Sci-Fi Investigates, SIGHTINGS, etc. They are in my opinion the backbone of the network along with Sci-Fi Friday. -Zsandmann (talk) 18:47, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Investigative Shows? 

message: Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here . Even if you have not, other opinions are needed because this issue is affecting all TV episodes in Wikipedia. --Maniwar (talk) 02:05, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Centralized TV Episode Discussion 

message: I heard that The Sci Fi Network(USA) is going to air Elfen Lied on TV, but its so GRAPHIC!!! Is that true?--LoliMedia (talk) 13:37, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's certainly possible; however, I couldn't find anything coming up in the schedule or any mentions on the SciFiPedia. If it was aired, I'm not sure what Sci Fi would do about the gore, nudity, etc. --Dinoguy1000 18:53, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cartoon Network couldn air it due to EXCESIVE VIOLENCE and ecchi! Could the SciFi Network basicly say F*** You and air it?--LoliMedia (talk) 18:57, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Honestly, I couldn't tell you. If Sci Fi is indeed planning to air it, it sounds like they've got a heck of a job censoring it enough to get it past the FCC. --Dinoguy1000 19:12, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Ani-Monday Show? 

message: I belive, ages ago, that I watched Ronin Warriors on the scifi channel.  It was around when they did the Saturday Anime, but was eithe Saturday Mornings or late nights other times.  I can't remember.  I can't find a source. If i can find any valid source i will add it though.  If anyone else can find one, It would be appreciated. Corvato (talk) 21:55, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old Anime list 

message: It might be prudent to point out that both Jaws and Cape Fear are noted as not being "horror" films. Jaws' entry specifically refers to it as a thriller/horror film. I am not familiar with Cape Fear, but it's own entry details it as being particularly violent and at points scary.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Thebarbarian87 (talk • contribs) 03:00, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-science-fiction programming 

message: move by MeekSaffron (talk) 16:46, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia moved from html comment below scifi.com 

message: Why does the Sci-Fi Channel run all of its best content at 3 a.m. in the morning?  They run Charlie Jade in that time slot, and they must have twice the variety of movies running in that slot as in the rest of their schedule altogether (albeit with the first five minutes cut off just to make absolutely sure no one will start watching).  It's as if they have some double agent working for them who buys film and then makes sure no one actually sees it. Wnt (talk) 08:11, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  3 a.m. prime time 

message: I too would like to see more added regarding criticism of the channel and its diverting of its founding principles. It all started once Bonnie Hammer got her claws into the channel; though she's failed upward, by becoming head of NBC Universal Cable, her successor, David Howe, seems to be of the same stock. Now yes, these are my opinions. But like the poster below stated, the points many like myself (including most of the people on SCI FI's *own* forums) have made and are making - the channel's ludicrous and slavish claim that they represent the science fiction genre as a whole, coupled with their continual and dogged pursuit of lowest common denominator programming and continual airing of non-science fiction programming (Braveheart, Law & Order: Special Victims Unit, James Bond films, et al, to name a very few) - are well worth inclusion in this channel's entry. Jason.cinema (talk) 13:44, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not unless such comments can be backed up by a reliable source and written in a neutral tone, otherwise they constitute a biased point of view (and original research). And if you've really got such a big problem with SCI FI, the solution is pretty simple: just don't watch it. —Dinoguy1000 18:43, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course my quotes up there are biased.  : )  They are paraphrased from hearsay and various criticisms I've encountered and concur with (hence, my notice that this article contains no mention of these things; in fact, no criticism at all).  But I agree with you, hoping that others will contribute comments citing reliable sources to the end of an eventual write-up with a, yes of course, neutral tone.  (I'm too lazy to do so.)  Btw, why the "Just don't watch it" comment?  That wasn't necessary.  --R  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.112.36.4 (talk) 16:27, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The "just don't watch it" comment wasn't really intended to mean much. ;) It's just that I hear people complaining about X television show/station/movie, or Y website, or Z book, and it's like, if you've really got that big a problem with it, why are you even bothering to look at it? Don't you have better ways to waste your (and everyone else's) time than watching/reading something you don't like and complaining about how much you don't like it?[/rant] =) —Dinoguy1000 18:15, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticisms of the channel

message: Any particular reason this show was omitted from any mentioning in this article? The Outer Limits has been a particularly prominent series on Sci Fi in the past, and while I haven't watched the channel in a couple years, I'm willing to bet it still aires. I mean, hasn't it been on Sci Fi since forever? Just wondering.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.113.215.89 (talk) 09:41, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outer Limits 

message: This is what I posted on this talk page (When I saw the list of anime shows in the list of Sci-Fi shows, I never saw any of the ones that aired on ani-monday, such as Noein, Tactics, Ninja Scroll (censored version), Tokko, Straight Jacket, and other anime shows that aired on that Sci-Fi block! Why not?!?), and I was expecting a comment from someone, not have it deleted by someone! I asked if someone would be kind and add those episodes (and perhaps other shows I forgot to mention) in the list of shows aired on the Sci-fi Channel. If you won't, then I will.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.45.119.194 (talk) 22:28, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The article formerly had a complete list of anime that has been aired as a part of Ani-Monday (and Anime on Tuesdays), but the list was inappropriate for various reasons for this article and was removed. An incomplete list (which has many more titles from the older anime blocks) can be found on List of Sci Fi Channel (United States) programs. 「ダイノガイ千？！」(Dinoguy1000) 03:25, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lame Anime List (again) 

message: Exactly what's going to happen to "SCI FI Magazine" when Sci Fi Channel becomes Syfy? AdamDeanHall (talk) 22:27, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: How would anyone here know? Unless and until they say something either in the magazine or to the media, no one will know. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 00:27, 5 April 2009 (UTC)

text: As an update, thus far Syfy is still referring to it as Sci Fi Magazine. Sci Fi wire has also retained its name. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 06:34, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's going to happen to "SCI FI Magazine"? 

message: Does anyone have the logo for Sci Fi Channel from 2000? There was an SVG version of the logo a while back, until the logo section got unnecesarilly removed, but I can't find the 2000 logo anywhere. Gage (talk) 05:29, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The logo section was not "unnecessarily removed" it was removed because it violates WP:NONFREE, and it will continue to be removed as such. There is no critical, sourced commentary on the various logos, and just including an image gallery just to show the history violates Wikipedia policy. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 05:35, 7 July 2009 (UTC)

text: The second logo is from Sci Fi UK, before they were owned by NBC Universal.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.79.8.76 (talk) 02:47, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sci Fi Channel 2000 logo 

message: Surely, for balance purposes, this article could include some criticism of the Sly-Fly channel's Saturday B-movies? I know they have produced a few decent films, but many are truly awful.—RJH (talk) 17:17, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The criticism of the films is mainly film specific and already covered in the individual articles. For balance, it needs to include both sides, though, not just criticism. I've seen one or two articles covering the movies as a whole mentioned in some of those films, but would need to find them. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 17:51, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism? 

message: When I say "other articles" I am thinking mostly of the pages for television programs related in some way or ways to the channel; however I mean to address the subject in general, as it applies anywhere in Wikipedia.
I finished writing a lengthy discussion inquiry on the use of "Sci Fi" versus "Syfy" for the Torchwood talk page. The article briefly relates episodes of Torchwood aired on BBC America as being generally less edited than those of Doctor Who broadcast by Sci Fi Channel. I wasn't sure whether "Sci Fi Channel" should be altered to "Syfy" because those episodes of Doctor Who were edited and aired prior to the name change. When I had my post all typed out, I re-read it and realized I had spent several paragraphs and a great deal of time on a trivial detail, more or less completely unrelated to the Torchwood article, and that a discussion about the Syfy re-branding would be entirely out of place.
I think it makes the most sense to bring the conversation here; even though its the place intended to talk about improving the Syfy article specifically, which happens to be the ONLY page specifically excluded. Ultimately, I have the following questions:
1. Should there be an active effort to change "Sci Fi Channel" to "Syfy" across Wikipedia?
2. When, if ever, should "Sci Fi" be left as it is? Only when the difference is to-the-point, such as when mentioning the re-branding itself? What about things entirely contained before the change of names? For example, consider this sentence from the article, Battlestar Galactica (2004 series): "The series first aired as a three-hour miniseries in December 2003 on the Sci Fi network and ran for four seasons thereafter, ending its run on March 20, 2009." 
3. Is it ever appropriate (or perhaps a good idea) to include one name or the other parenthetically, such as in the first sentence of this article: "Syfy (formerly known as the Sci Fi Channel)...". Would it ever make sense to use the style "Syfy (previously known as Sci Fi)" or "Syfy (known as Sci Fi prior to July 7, 2009)" instead of "the Sci Fi Channel (now known as Syfy)" or "Sci Fi (known as Syfy since July 7, 2009)", or vice versa? 
I'm sure I haven't included everything I meant to, so please ask questions of your own or answer ones I should have asked. And holler if you know a better place for this topic to go.
Invisigoth841 (talk) 20:53, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, an active effort is not needed. Here is actually where the whole historical use discussed above actually comes into play. As per what is done with other companies/channels, refer to it by the name it was at the time the series aired. So most of the tyime, that will be Sci Fi channel. If, however, the series is still running but started before the name, such as Eureka, then either include a one sentence note that Sci Fi rebranded itself to Syfy, or use something like "the series premiered on Syfy, then called the Sci Fi channel, on X where it continues to air." New series that premiere on Syfy should, of course, use Syfy. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 21:30, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Well, just about every single link to www.scifi.com that is in wikipedia is a dead link. I ran a quick search, and it brings up more than 5100 pages on just the english language wiki that will need to be re-edited. Much as I'd like to boost my edit count up there, it will be a large undertaking. Some of the pages are on archive.org, some are not. Tangurena (talk) 17:21, 21 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct use of "Sci Fi" and "Syfy" in other articles 

message: At the time of this writing, the first sentence of the Ratings section reads:
:"In 2008, Syfy, then the Sci Fi Channel, averaged a 1.0 Household rating..."
I believe that the first sentence should read as such:
:"In 2008, the Sci Fi Channel (now Syfy) averaged a 1.0 Household rating..."
I believe it should be written like this because it was not called Syfy last year, it was the Sci Fi Channel. The wording of this sentence better conveys the history of the channel, as it was not changed to Syfy until a few days ago. The channel hasn't changed ownership or anything, it's still the same. It's just changed names. Worded the other way, it still conveys the name change, but having  the old name set after the new title puts more emphasis on the new title rather than the fact that it wasn't called Syfy back then. I have made a change of this nature twice. My first one did not even mention the name change, which is why I made the second revision to better reflect that. It has since been reverted for the reasoning that the "article is about SyFy, so sentence reflects this better as is." The article is STILL about the channel, but when the ratings were gathered, the channel was not called Syfy. The new sentence better reflects that the change is a recent one by putting the old name first, thereby drawing the reader's attention to the fact that when the ratings were gathered, it was still called  the Sci Fi Channel.
You may believe this is a somewhat trivial matter, but I believe it is necessary to better convey the nature of the change and the ratings that were gathered. Also, if you want, it can be set off with commas rather than parentheses, if you think it would look better. -- Interrupt_feed (talk) 22:50, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The former sentence is better written, flows better, and remains focused on the subject. The article is about Syfy, which was once known was the Sci Fi Channel, not the Sci Fi Channel now known as Syfy. As you noted, it has not changed anything, only names, wich is why it is properly written to focus on the actual channel itself, noting the name change, rather than focusing on the old name, first. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 22:58, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of "Sci Fi Channel" in the Ratings section 

message: Syfy is now referring to these films as Syfy Original Movies , therefore this category should be renamed to reflect that change. Jason.cinema (talk) 00:02, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing on that site says "Syfy Original Movies" - the category was already misnamed, because they were called Sci Fi Original Pictures, without the channel. A rename request is already in place to fix this. The movie air time is now called "Syfy Saturday" but that is not the same as the actual "Sci Fi Pictures" movie making area. Need better clarification as to whether they have renamed the actual moving making unit or not. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 00:06, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Here's an example of them calling their movies "Syfy Original Movies" - the page for the airing of their upcoming Syfy Original Movie Hellhounds.  - as well as the schedule for the airing on their site which also refers to it, and all of their other movies airing that day, as Syfy Original Movies. ]. Jason.cinema (talk) 13:50, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The first link does not actually use the phrase "Syfy Original Movie". The second one does, however it still isn't clear if that is just the airing name or if they have actually renamed the division within the company as well. I'm going to try emailing them to see if they clarify. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 14:20, 16 July 2009 (UTC)

text: Craig Engler, Syfy's VP of Digital Media, has a Twitter account where he's answering questions about all things Syfy - http://www.twitter.com/syfy I think that would be a better way to contact Syfy, rather than an email, as those things are usually generic autoresponses. Jason.cinema (talk) 01:01, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Syfy Original Movies 

message: i wouldn't have thought that sci fi/syfi was "anti-American", yet it states that in the opening sentence of the article...if someone can explain to me how this is supposed to sound, that would be great.  as of now, it makes me think of anti-American protests in other countries...Osmo250 (talk) 16:49, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It isn't, the article was vandalized. Vandalism has been removed. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 17:04, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anti-American? 

message: The president of Scifi is David Howe, and it links to an article on -a- David Howe, but even a cursory glance at that article gives me great doubts that its the same guy. Hewhorulestheworld (talk) 15:26, 10 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Bad Link?

message: What's going to happen to WWE NXT (TV series) on Syfy? Will it be canceled or moved to another station? AdamDeanHall (talk) 19:18, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Please direct these questions to the powers-that-be over to NBC Universal, or whatever the company's name is now. This is NOT the place to ask. Apple8800 (talk) 10:38, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's going to happen to [[WWE NXT (TV series)]] on [[Syfy]]? 

message: Good source: http://www.denofgeek.com/television/784179/does_syfy_really_love_scifi.html
Gonioul (talk) 22:09, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critics? 

message: I thought "Syfy" was meant to be pronounced the same as "sci-fi". Isn't it? AlexanderKaras (talk) 23:41, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of station name 

message: OK I know you're mad that they're canceling SG:U but seriously, find a source or these weasel words are gonna get taken down. Alphachimera (talk) 05:53, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "to the horror and shock of many fans" 

message: What happened to this project?  Is the movie actually getting made?  And are viewers really being given any real input?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.9.112.31 (talk) 02:09, 24 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Syfy letting viewers create new movie 

message: Is it alright to move the importance for "Low" to "Mid" on the importance scale, because Syfy is an international TV chanel, not a TV show. James3167 (talk) 19:13, 19 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Importance 

message: I never watch this channel so I did not notice the change until it was critizied on the Big Bang Theory.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:558:6002:6:59F6:C5E:9A0D:4F (talk) 03:05, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool story bro.  Why bother to make a post pimping BBT here?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.32.193.80 (talk) 10:18, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who is Sy and why do we care about his fy? 

message: In December, an editor unilaterally removed two entire sections of pertinent, historical data, claiming it was "outdated." By that claim, ANY historical data is "outdated." Please see WP:Recent. I understand it was a bold edit, but removing two entire sections is something that needs to be discussed first — and per WP:BRD, it's bold (done), revert (done), discuss (as I've begun here). --Tenebrae (talk) 19:37, 16 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Programming section

message: It seems obvious [to me at least] that anyone searching Sci Fi Channel will be seeking the 1988-2009 history of that entity, which is contained in the article Syfy. Someone had Sci Fi Channel redirecting to Syfy Universal which bears little relation to the entity known as the Sci Fi Channel. Whoever created this redirect also made a redirect of Sci Fi Channel (United States) to SyFy, but this is pretty meaningless as the international satellites did not carry the name Sci Fi Channel -- there was no Sci Fi Channel (UK) or Sci Fi Channel (Latvia), no Sci Fi Channel (not United States) .  Bustter (talk) 13:55, 7 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sci Fi Channel redirect 

message: I agree with User:DayleLucy101 that the old logo is historically important, just as it would be for any TV network. --Tenebrae (talk) 18:11, 13 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Old logo

message: Here's the source. It will air on the SyFy network. 2601:C:780:234:B027:24E4:1F98:A860 (talk) 01:31, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kyrpton prequel series announced, created by David S. Goyer. 

message: This article is primarily about the American channel, certainly as evidenced by the lead's second paragraph. It was never known as "SF" in the US, and in fact was only known as SF in one country and only for a short time. That makes it trivia in terms of WP:LEAD. which is supposed to summarize the most signiciant content and important milestones. Adding a context-less fringe name in the lead without explanation creates the impression that the American can was known as SF at some point. That is clearly inaccurate.--Tenebrae (talk) 05:02, 1 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Article lead

message: This is per NBCUniversal's press release announcing the channel's rebrand back to science fiction and its fandom. 
http://www.nbcumv.com/news/syfy-“reboots”-ahead-25th-anniversary?network=33143
:What does it stand for? If it's an initialism, we'd refer to it in all caps throughout the article. If it's just a styling, we mention it once in the intro. —C.Fred (talk) 03:15, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  The channel's name is now capitalized. Revisions should be made to this article 

message: Do we really need announced series or pilots on this article? I feel like it is adding too much to the article. 2601:8C:4001:DCB9:8BB:55F:E0BA:1473 (talk) 20:13, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  However, this is better covered at List of programs broadcast by Syfy, and so should probably removed from this article. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:40, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Announced series/pilots section 

message: I have moved a number of redirects and the linked article Syfy Universal (formerly "Syfy (TV channel)"). All redirects that concern the U.S. channel, or are from legacy titles (eg SciFi...), now target Syfy.  Editors should take care when retitling sections to repair broken redirects. Shhhnotsoloud (talk) 07:21, 15 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article and redirect moves