Talk:Thomas Rawlinson (industrialist)

message: The page is entitled "Thomas Rawlinson" but the vast majority of the content is not about him ! Can people please remedy this.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.225.0.205 (talk) 22:32, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: COMPLAINT

message: Two Rawlinson families are getting confused here.  Fell states that the Thomas Rawlinson of Glengarry furnace was from Greythwaite, with the evidence that other shareholders in the venture were members of the Backbarrow Co.  I can't comment on the origins of the kilt other than that Fell repeats the story (though not as fact) quoting the Edinburgh magazine 1785.  It is possible that Fell is wrong.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Peterrivington (talk • contribs) 22:28, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Origins

message: Your external link is at odds with the article, thusly:
"One story commonly repeated is that an Englishman named Thomas Rawlinson opened an iron-smelting factory in the Highlands around the year 1730.  His workers all dressed in the belted plaids, which proved too hot and cumbersome for close work in his factory.  He solved the problem by cutting the garment in half.  The lower part could now be worn separately and the upper part discarded when coming indoors.  This is considered proof that an Englishman invented the Scottish national dress.
The problem with this story is that we know of numerous illustrations of Highlanders wearing the only the bottom part of the belted plaid that date long before Rawlinson ever set foot in Scotland.  Remember that the belted plaid consisted of two widths of material stitched together.  If one neglects to stitch the two together, and only the bottom 4 yards are worn, pleated and belted around the waist, the resulting garment is called the feilidh-beag (little wrap).  The word is often spelled in English “phillabeg.”  I will not go into detailed evidence of the wearing of the phillabeg here, but I will say that there is some suggestion of its use in the late 17th century, and it was definitely being worn in the early 18th century.  It most likely came about as a natural evolution of the belted plaid and Rawlinson probably observed its and quickly deduced its usefulness in his situation and introduced it among his workers. " 
You may want to change the article to reflect this. --Aim Here 00:18, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: accuracy

message: I can find no records giving Thomas Rawlinson's birth and death years. There is a web page which lists the "Baptisms at the Church of St. Laurence in the Parish of Chorley in the County of Lancashire, 1709-1768": http://lan-opc.org.uk/Chorley/stlaurence/baptisms_1709-1768.html
The following baptisms are recorded:
Baptism: 22 Feb 1718/9 St Laurence, Chorley, Lancashire, England
Thomas Rawlinson - Son of Thomas Rawlinson
    Register: Baptisms 1709 - 1768, Page 9, Entry 34
    Source: LDS Film 93703
Baptism: 15 Jul 1722 St Laurence, Chorley, Lancashire, England
Ellen Rawlinson - Daughter of Thomas Rawlinson & Ann
    Occupation: Bricklayer
    Register: Baptisms 1709 - 1768, Page 15, Entry 11
    Source: LDS Film 93703
Baptism: 13 Dec 1724 St Laurence, Chorley, Lancashire, England
Ann Rawlinson - Daughter of Thomas Rawlinson & Ann
    Occupation: Bricklayer
    Register: Baptisms 1709 - 1768, Page 17, Entry 22
    Source: LDS Film 93703
Thereafter, the name Rawlinson seems to disappear from the Lancashire records. The father of these infants is likely the Thomas Rawlinson who is the subject of this article. Said Thomas Rawlinson died prior to 1768 which is the year in which the famous letter, published in 1785 in the Edinburgh press, was actually written as that letter (reproduced in Dunbar's History of Highland Dress) refers to him in the past tense.
The article on Thomas Rawlinson is actually not about TR, but almost exclusively about the legend of the invention of the kilt.
JFPerry 15:08, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Thomas Rawlinson genealogy

message: In the article, it is asserted:
"Through this new version of an old garment, Rawlinson attained wealth and certain prosperity . . ."
I find this statement to be highly improbable at the least. How is one to make money off such an "invention" if indeed he be the inventor (more to the point, are clothing or fashion styles of this nature ever really invented at all - are they not rather adopted and adapted?). Since the "invention" could not be patented, he could not have charged a licensing fee for the manufacture or production of such a garment. So the only way money could have possibly been made was in the sale of yard goods or finished products, perhaps by supplying them to the Highland Regiments after the '45. But to the extent that such large-scale manufacture was undertaken it was by Wilson's and not by Rawlinson. Elsewise, the garments would have been produced by home handicraft industry. JFPerry 13:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wealthy?

message: The articles for his father Thomas Rawlinson and son Richard Rawlinson mention he was Lord Mayor - but nothing here. Jackiespeel (talk) 19:18, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Lord Mayor

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thread_title:  External links modified 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: Please see Talk:Kilt#Thomas Rawlinson for a discussion that should be centralized at one place, as it affects three articles.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼   — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  05:07, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rawlinson kilt disputation 

message: What's the source for "a known promoter of political union with England and to be anti-Highland", as a description of Ivan Baillie? If it's correct, it's quite significant, but this could just be some editor's personal opinion. Needs a reliable source.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  09:31, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for characterisation of Baillie