Talk:Chinese armies in the Second Sino-Japanese War

message: May I suggest that this piece be logged under the category of fiction, since it is clearly crude wartime propaganda.
You have not given any proper citation for this work. 
The entire piece seems to be based on one book.
This is utter rubbish, that has no place in what purports to be a serious forum.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.255.1.122 (talk) 15:35, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Propose name change: to Combat effectiveness of Chinese armies in WW2 or Combat Effectiveness of Chinese armies in Second Sino-Japanese War. 8th Route Army and New Fourth Army did not do the bulk of the fighting, and it would be unfair to brush aside the details on NRA forces. -Hmib 09:36, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No. It sounds too stuffy, and it is not really what we want an article about. How about, "Campaigns of the Chinese armies in the Second Sino-Japanese War" or "Progress of the Chinese armies in the Second Sino-Japanese War"? Rintrah 14:35, 22 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I happen to agree with your opinion that this article seems strongly biased in favor of the Chinese military.  However, the appropriate response to an POV article is to do what you can to make it more NPOV, not to personally insult the authors.  If you want to engage the authors in dialogue, to get help from them in making the article less POV, you should probably sign your comments with a screen name or IP address by typing four tildes (~) after your comments.  That way they can find you to talk things over with you. Invisible Flying Mangoes 17:26, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name change

message: During the Second Sino-Japanese War, sometimes thought of as a theater of World War II, the Chinese Army had two severe handicaps. The first sentences just launches into the action without appropriate context. Perhaps a sentence like "The Second Sino-Japanese is a war which..." would be more appropriate. I know there are greater problems with the article, but someone should at least make the first sentence good. Rintrah 19:14, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  First sentence 

message: In the Generalissimo's Command Office one photo of General Tze-chung remained; the caption of this photo read, "Why your will stay at finish in calm." found in .
The quote does not make any sense. There is no benefit to the reader in leaving the sentence in the article. If this account is important, it can be reinserted into the article later with a better translation.
The last section is a mess. It needs considerable cleaning up.
There is a concern over the lack of sources for alleged war crimes. If any editor has the time, it would greatly benefit the article if sources were found and the statements verified. Rintrah 13:20, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed sentence

message: I've reorganized the list as follows, so it should read better now:
*within each type, alpha by nation, then by manufacturer, then by model if multiple models of the same aircraft are cited
*removed uncertain indications of numbers, i.e. ?
*removed all instances of "units" and "example"; this is an awkward way to cite numbers of aircraft and this is the first and only time that I've seen such terms used, just the numbers will suffice  --BrokenSphere 03:34, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Aircraft list

message: I did a preliminary grouping into paragraphs. Since some of the items seem to relate to specific aircraft types,  it is hard to see any overall organization. Since most of the material is unsourced, and much of it is laking dates and other specifics, it is not that easy to figure out what is intended. I did remove some POV as found. I am not an expert in this field, and used mainly common sense. if it doesn't apply, change according to whatever criterion does. It might help to separate this from the rest of the article, which is in a much more finished state. I did not work on the aircraft list, since it seems to be in good hands. DGG 03:37, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: air force in general

message: I deleted
:"(The personal aircraft of General Claire Chennault was a Hawk 75; his airmen of the "Flying Tigers" used the Curtiss P-40 types "Tomahawk", "Kittyhawk" and some Curtiss-Wright s manufactured in America.)"
and
:"This company was another source of support for the Flying Tigers' activities in the Chinese Mainland."
because it's very unclear to me the Tigers were even in China at the time described. (They didn't reach China until after Pearl Harbor, recall.) In 1937, Chennault led the International Squadron. Cf Caidin, The Ragged, Rugged Warriors.  Trekphiler (talk) 20:36, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Grounded tiger

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