Talk:Passover massacre

message: Do you have a source for the list of names?  (eg) puts the death toll at 19. I presume that some of the seriously wounded mentioned in that report subsequently died, to make up the quoted 30, but I'd like to see a reference supporting the figures in this article. Martin 20:19, 2 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.mfa.gov.il/mfa/go.asp?MFAH0le00 -- uriber 17:17, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: List of names

message: There have been about a dozen suicide bombings in netanya. This name imply there was one.
We needa better name such as the Park Hotel bombing or Park Hotel massacre or passover massacre or Seder bombing in netnya.
Zeq 15:52, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point.  "Passover massacre" seems to be the most common name. Jayjg (talk) 22:55, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Further discussion of the name of this article - and extensive discussion on the use of the word massacre in articles on civilian deaths in the Middle East conflict - can be found here. --Ravpapa (talk) 12:31, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of this article 

message: GHcool, why do you think that the Holocaust is relevant to this article? I'm curious to know. Imad marie (talk) 18:00, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The BBC thought that the fact that Holocaust survivors were victims was was relevant. Wikipedia should follow suit.  --GHcool (talk) 19:07, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The fact that a person survives one disaster, only to be killed in another disaster, is always interesting and relevant. Especially if the disasters are related to prejudices, national identity, and so on. --Ravpapa (talk) 05:15, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Holocaust survivors

message: This edit war over what to call the area in which Tubas is located is perhaps the most idiotic edit war I have ever seen.  Guys, the article is not about Samaria/West Bank.  Jayjg, it was I, not MeteorMaker, who excised the offensive topynym from the sentence.  It adds nothing. Don't you have better things to argue about? --Ravpapa (talk) 06:18, 15 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some say tomahto, some say tomayto 

message: I think it should be attacks not massacre, the term of massacre indicate the bias of the source, which should not occur here, as Wikipedia is not bias to any side.
:It is well sourced that the event is known a as a massacre. Interesting that you have not shown similar zealousness with regards to Cave of the Patriarchs massacre NoCal100 (talk) 15:11, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a rather unfair comparison.  The passover massacre was sanctioned and supervised by the governing entities of Gaza, which comprises the vast majority of Palestinians who live in the territories.  Not only were the offenders a terrorist organization, they were also a recognized and supported government.  The Patriarch massacre, however, is an unfit comparison because of how the attacks were planned and orchestrated, not to mention the motivations.  Israeli's died at the behest of a government who continues to be enabled and supported at home and aboard, while the Palestinians were "massacred" by a disgruntled soldier and a radical fighter who had no affiliation with the Israeli government or Israel Defense Forces other than employment.  I know, it's hard to see the difference.  In regards to whether the article should be retitled, I'll abstain until a consensus is made for a title-change.  For now it's safe to leave it alone, unless someone else has a better excuse other than semantics.  This isn't a NPOV as innocent civilians were singled out and murdered simply for being citizens of an opposing country, they were not casualties of war.  If it were the latter, then attack or something similar would probably be a more appropriate title.  Please don't turn this into another 2008–2009 Israel–Gaza conflict, where every side must be satisfied regardless of bias.  It is generally accepted that this attack was a massacre so until there is proving evidence claiming something else, changing it would be kind of silly.  Cheers! Wikifan12345 (talk) 08:30, 6 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Massacres or attacks 

message: Why was this added as a source? Surely there's something better for a statement that is contensted? I personally don't care either way about the statement, but the source should be a bit more mainstream and reliable. --Ynhockey (Talk) 22:38, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a secondary source, reporting on (and quoting from) official PA radio and TV announcements. For this purpose, I think it's reliable enough (it's not like we supoect them of making up the quotes, is it?) MeteorMaker (talk) 23:32, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Electronic Intifada? 

message: What means "PA" in
:In 2003, the PA sponsored a soccer tournament named ...
--Keysanger (what?) 12:26, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: PA

message: It's a bullshit propaganda piece full of irrelevant shit inserted to inflame opinion against the Palestinians. We know it was an attack against civilians, do we really need to know a father was killed with his daughter? In an encyclopedia article? And a subsection called "Palestinian glorification of the attack"? Fucking seriously? Wikipedia is a joke when it comes to these topics. Whoever has more people editing the page gets to decide the truth. What a joke.
:The prior editor -- IP 50.136.75.169 -- has been blocked for six months. Epeefleche (talk) 18:14, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did AIPAC write this? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Wikipedia is not a memorial to the victims of an attack. And Ill correct that at the Cave of the Patriarchs massacre as well. WP:NOTMEMORIAL is policy however. nableezy - 16:16, 12 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:NOTMEMORIAL]]