Talk:Yisroel Dovid Weiss/Archive 1

message: i agree with bsnowball that rabbi weiss is a rabbi please have someone in authority to make a ruling and stop vandalizing rabbi weiss entry thanks Lurgis 07:57, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would have to agree that it is quite reasonable to expect the "he IS a rabbi" claimants to produce a source backing this up. --Stormie 06:31, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: weiss is a rabbi

message: He is not a Rav.  He is not a maggi shiur.  He is not a rebbie in a Cheder.  He does not have semicha.  
HE IS NOT A RABBI!!!
Stop being dishonest.  A "Mr." can have views, too. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.93.254.200 (talk) 17:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weiss is NOT a RABBI 

message: reverted yet another FrummerThanThou] copy & paste vandalism back to: "01:51, 31 December 2006 Yeshivish (Talk | contribs) (i believe its more factually correct)" Lurgis 00:20, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: revert vandalism

message: ADL Letter to Fox News Channel, 28 july 2006  Lurgis 16:41, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: adl press release url

message: I cannot understand how thoughtful factbased additions to this article are deleted without just cause.  He is not a rabbi.  That is a fact.  And if he claims he is one, this ought to be added in the controversies section.  Stop weaseling out of it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 66.93.254.200 (talk) 15:16, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beyond Belief 

message: :1) "Consensus", by defenition means "general agreement". Looking at this talk page and the edit history it is obvious that the general agreement, notwithstanding two editors, is that he is not considered a rabbi
:2) As I said earlier, TV shows that call him a "rabbi" are not a source. They call him by what he wishes to be called.
:3)As I said earlier, it is pretty much impossible to source something that one claims does NOT exist. I cannot get a source that he ISN'T a cross-dressing pedophile. Does that mean that he is? Of course not. Same was with rabbi. I can't get a source that he is NOT a rabbi, that does not mean that he is. There is a reason for the WP rule that the one putting in a fact has the burden to prove it.
In regard to your personal attack: I think I have been reasonable with you, I don't know why you had to lower the level of argument here and call my actions "childish". I also have no idea what you are refering to with "links to edah ha charedis etc." I don't recall editing links of that nature, nor do I recall editing any links on this site.--Yeshivish 20:46, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: i take this somewhat pathetic deliberate misconstruing of what i said as confirmation of bad faith. since you refuse to engage in debate, i have rv'd the article. next time you vandalise it i shall take this to arbitration.  ⇒ bsnowball  19:04, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Snowball, I have tried to be reasonable and civil to you, but all I get in return are nasty and insulting comments. I will not have any more communications with you. Anything communicated to me by you will be ignored. Knowing you, you will ge the last salvo, so go ahead leave a really "nice" comment.--Yeshivish 19:53, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, 66.93, there are a lot of questions and rumors surrounding Mr. Weiss's sexual history.  Some of them are particularly animalistic, and, because of the amount of people who "are in the know," possibly true.  Unless you can support them, though, you cannot add them into the article.  It would be like pretending he is a rabbi even though he does not have the qualifications of one.  And that goes against Wikipedia policy.  DavidCharlesII 20:21, 8 January 2007 (UTC)

text: David Charles keeps adding is the FACT that Eida charedis put him on cherem, too.  How is THAT wild?  ITS A FACT!!! 66.93.254.200 14:26, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Response

message: Taken from
http://www.islamonline.net/livedialogue/english/Guestcv.asp?hGuestID=ELk1V5
All the following are subject to confirmation:
Rabbi Yisroel Dovid Weiss 
1996 - Present: Talmud Instructor, Yeshiva Beis Yehudi (Monsey, New York); Associate Rabbi, Neturei Karta International; Speaker and Lecturer on Zionism and related matters; 
1989 - 1996: Rabbinic Fellow and Talmud Instructor Kollel Ayeles Hashachar (Monroe, New York); 
1987 - 1988: Rabbinic Fellow and Student of Ritual Circumcision, Kollel Chofetz Chaim (London, England) 
1985 - 1987: Talmud Instructor and Rabbinic Fellow Yeshiva Beis Yehudi (Monsey, New York); Received Rabbinic Certificate in Yeshivas Beis Yehudi; 
1983 - 1985: Rabbinic Fellow, Kollel Bigszahd (Brooklyn, New York); 
1979 - 1983: Rabbinic Fellow, Nitra Kollel (Brooklyn, New York); 
1974 - 1979: Rabbinic College Chasan Sofer (Brooklyn, New York) 
1970 - 1974: Yeshiva Be’er Shmuel High School (Brooklyn, New York) 
1960 - 1970: Tiferes Torah Elementary School 
Born October 28, 1956
-- 00:45, 17 January 2007 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.132.240.226 (talk • contribs) 
:I did a google search on "Rabbinic College Chasan Sofer" - only one result.  "Rabbinical college" seems to work slightly better, and I think I saw one reference to "Rabinical Seminary".  But a really low profile regardless - small school, part-time students?  John Broughton  |  ♫♫ 18:27, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeshiva Ch San [sic] Sofer 
1876 50th St, Brooklyn, NY 11204  
Brooklyn is full of tiny yeshivas (talmudic seminaries). There is no accrediting organization and each has their own standards (or lack of them) in handing out rabbinic ordination.217.132.237.5 19:02, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Assuming in arguendo that you are not a cohort of Weiss's, it remains to be seen what kind of institution "Yeshiva" Beis Yehudi really is--if it is a legitamite one, if there is a semicha program there, if those individuals in that insitution really learn at all, etc.  Hagaon Moreinu v'Rabbeinu66.93.254.200 19:58, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Weiss' resume (apparently compiled by Weiss)

message: Everyone should read this before adding more unsourced material. And this is even more important. The upshot of these policies we can't add unsourced negative material to biographys of living people. Users can eventually be blocked for doing so. This bit's particularly interesting: "In cases where the information is derogatory and poorly sourced or unsourced, this kind of edit is an exception to the three-revert rule."  ⇒ bsnowball  18:19, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Pray tell, how is a woman who is frequently quoted on television an inappropriate source for something she saw?  DavidCharlesII 15:06, 5 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Remove unsourced or poorly sourced controversial material"