Talk:Jōdo Shinshū

message: While I agree that romaji doesn't have a "gwa" Japanese itself does. The sound a frog makes is usually romanised to "gua." A google searched netted only 22 results for "honguanji." "Honganji" netted 50,800 and "hongwanji" resulted in 80,800. Now I don't know anything about this sect from personal experience, but generally the more commonly used name is what we use on Wikipedia. The final nail in the coffin should be that the sect's official site uses the "w" http://www2.hongwanji.or.jp/english/ .--Dustin Asby 18:49, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I once heard from someone who was a Shin Buddhist priest.  He pointed out that although Hongwanji is pronounced "hon-gan-ji", the Hongwanji still prefers the more traditional spelling with the "gwa".  Why they prefer that rather than a more modern spelling was never made clear to me, but the official spelling by the Hongwanji does have the "gwa". --Ph0kin 07:48, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is rather the closed Yōon ぐゎ. I think this is just in romanisation, since I can't find examples of it in Japanese. This website speculates that Nishi Hongwanji is preserving the wa because Higashi Honganji already claimed the URL honganji.or.jp, leaving them with hongwanji.or.jp. This explanation works when considering promotional materials such as pamphlets and so forth, as well as book publications—it is not necessary to specify Nishi or Higashi each time if they are distinguished by gwa or ga. However, the website also suggests that Nishi Hongwanji still appears not to put the gwa into kana—so, as I stated above, it appears to just be a romanisation matter. Alexoneill (talk) 08:53, 7 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: No "gwa" sound in Japanese

message: Please check historical references before writing biographical information.  Shinran and Honen were not exiled by the Kamakura bakufu.  They were exiled by Emperor Gotoba at the behest of the Kofukuji temple, and the Emperor's decision had more to do with personal reasons (losing a couple of his ladies-in-waiting) than for religious ones.  The Kofukuji temple used this incident to persuade the Emperor to finally persecute Honen and his followers.
Anyways, I've made a number of corrections on the Shinran biography section because there was a lot of misinformation there that needed to be cleared up.  This information is easily found on the web, and in biographical books.  Please be careful to get the facts right.  Thanks!  Ph0kin 05:58, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shinran and Honen were not exiled by the Kamakura Bakufu 

message: Cirlea has only been ordained for a few years and has not produced any works of major significance yet that would justify inclusion alongside the other people on this list.  At best he could be included on a list of Western Shin priests but that is all.  In addition, by checking the edit log one can see that Cirlea added his own name to the list in a blatant case of self-promotion. — --Nio-guardian 
:This person re-added their name; this time to the list of Major Modern Thinkers!  Even leaving aside their minor significance in Shin history they should not be adding their own name to the article - it is totally unethical.  I have re-deleted it. --Nio-guardian (talk) 15:11, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted Josho Adrian Cirlea from list of Modern Shin Thinkers 

message: Here are my pics (2009) of a historical temple in Brazil. I lived in the same block, behind this temple many years ago for a brief period of time. Unfortunately the entrance was locked when I found my way back to revisit. There are the best photos I could come up with during a hot, hot summer day.
Seguem minhas fotos de um dos mais tradicionais templos budistas de SP. Infelizmente o portao do templo estava trancado quando passei por lah; quero dizer que, depois de muitos anos sem poder retornar, tive que me consolar com as poucas fotos que consegui e que aqui compartilho com vcs.: 
http://www.flickr.com/photos/9261368@N05/ (procurem HONPA HONGWANJI entre meus sets). 
Bepp (talk) 11:02, 8 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  One of the oldest traditional Honpa Hongwanji temples in Brazil / Fotos de templo budista tradicional de SP 

message: Jodo_Shinshu_Patriarchs should be merged into this article. i don't think it serves any purpose on it's own. --vvarkey (talk) 10:58, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to merge in [[Jodo_Shinshu_Patriarchs]] 

message: Prburley (talk) 14:43, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merged [[Jodo_Shinshu_Patriarchs]] 

message: Corrected blatant Western, male, and academic bias in “Major modern Shin figures” section. Now included in the list is traditionalist and Horai Association founder Zuiken Inagaki, as well as Dennis Hirota and Shojun Bando (all serious omissions). The Rev. Dr. Eiken Kobai has been re-instated to reflect the esteem with which he is held among Japanese and East Asian Shin Buddhists. Australian poet Harold Stewart and beloved Japanese poet-saint Saichi Asahara are also included. Count Kozui Otani, Lady Takeko Kujo, and William Montgomery McGovern round out a list which hitherto has been appallingly deficient. Further changes to the list, which is now balanced and properly representative, apart from corrections to dates and name spelling, should be regarded as deliberate attempts to suppress or advocate specific viewpoints. GabertS (talk) 21:51, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrections to "Modern Shin Figures" List 

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