Talk:Baron Munchausen

message: Mit Umlaut oder ohne Umlaut? --MacRusgail 19:55, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled 

message: Mit umlaut indeed!  Should this page not be moved to Baron Münchhausen? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ampersand777 (talk • contribs).
Nobody has commented on this for a week and a half; I'm gonna move itAmp 19:40, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move? 

message: It appears that all three accepted (?) spellings are in use throughout this article: Münchhausen, Munchhausen, Munchausen.  Where titles of literary works etc. are being referenced, the spelling appropriate to the work in question should of course be used, but the article's narrative itself should choose one spelling and stick to it.  Given the umlaut-related discussion above, I would guess that "Münchhausen" should be the spelling of choice. JanRu (talk) 22:01, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling Consistency 

message: It would be nice to have a small summary of this use of Münchhausen's name (under the heading of "Philosophy"), similar to what was done with Münchhausen Syndrome in Psychology. JanRu (talk) 22:01, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Münchhausen Trilemma 

message: Does anyone know why Robin Williams is credited as Ray D. Tutto in this film......I notice at IMDB he has used several names in film.... has he used this name in other films?   R. Silver 25 July 2007
:Question is more relevant to Talk:The Adventures of Baron Munchausen -- AnonMoos (talk) 09:41, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robin Williams' Pseudonym 

message: (I'm not very familiar with the wiki editing, so I beg you pardon for possible mistakes in the formatting.)
I just want to point out that the little passage about the Grimm's Fairy Tales Adaption of Munchhausen seems to be nonsense, because "the six"-story is - besides being very similar to Munchhausen (and several stories originated elsewhere) - just also an original Grimm's story. So Munchhausen isn't left out for any other reason than the fact that he doesn't appear in the Grimm-version.
you can look it up here in the German Wikipedia:
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sechse_kommen_durch_die_ganze_Welt#Herkunft
91.51.203.46 (talk) 20:32, 5 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grimm's "The Six who went far" 

message: This portrait looks very much alike Napoleon III. Sketched in 1866 this was maybe some political irony?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.221.242.105 (talk) 20:08, 12 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  G. Dore's caricature 

message: Was Münchhausen a case of pseudologia fantastica? Should we mention this in the Münchhausen article? Notice that Münchhausen is mentioned in the pseudologia fantastica article... Kintaro (talk) 17:31, 21 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure that enough is known about the historical Baron to support a psychiatric diagnosis.  In any case, we would need reliable sources... AnonMoos (talk) 21:10, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pseudologia fantastica 

message: There was a box at the top saying that the article did not conform to wikipedia's quality standards, so I went ahead and trimmed the article. I removed excessively flowery language, which made the article seem derived from a sensationalizing book about the Baron. And I removed excess detail, which also makes the article seem derived from some detailed biography about the Baron. Such information would be more interesting for someone looking to dive more deeply into his history, but its distracting in this encyclopedic context.
In particular, here's some explanations for edits I made:
* Intro - There were too many details that were going to be explained in later sections.
* Life - There were too many details about his extended family. I left the most notable. I also removed other details about his military career. I removed language like, "contested, ruinous" divorce and "dying childless" as it seems like they are part of a sensational bio.
* Adaptations - All that's really needed is the basic history of how literary adaptions started, and then a list of some major works that followed. --Philosophistry (talk) 08:11, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Making article concise 

message: I would like to see more content with some examples of the tall tales that are attributed to Munchausen. I've combed through the article to edit it and make it more concise, and yet I still have no idea about what kind of stories he told or the nature of any of his adaptations. --Philosophistry (talk) 08:14, 4 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for more content 

message: There was a comedy radio show in the 1940s based loosely on the Baron. My high school English teacher in the 1950s would sometimes quote from it when anyone questioned one of HER stories, "Vas you dere, Charlie?"
See, e.g., http://www.myoldradio.com/old-radio-episodes/baron-munchausen-vas-you-dere-sharlie-clip/1
DABbio (talk) 11:04, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baron Münchausen radio show 

message: He wrote a six volume work entitled Der Hausvatter (Hanover 1765) online here: https://archive.org/details/derhausvater06mn. A section on microscopy (of fungal infections of wheat/barley) is highly praised by Linnaeus in a dissertation Mundus Invisibilis (Amoenitates academicae vol. 7 395ff. online at http://sammlungen.ub.uni-frankfurt.de/botanik/periodical/pageview/4611200). The whole 6 volume work is said by Linnaeus to be about "Oeconomia". I don't know any more about it but if his scientific work was highly regarded by Linnaeus it surely merits dealing with.
See also Marc Ratcliff: The Quest for the Invisible: Microscopy in the Enlightenment 2009 231. R says that M corresponded with Linn.
Northutsire (talk) 20:00, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The scientist is a different man: Otto von Münchhausen, rather than Hieronymus Karl Friedrich. Otto's WP article is a stub, so please do expand it if you have the time and wherewithal!--Lemuellio (talk) 21:10, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scientific Achievements 

message: LB Namier "The Structure of Politics at the Accession of George III" indicates (second edition pp 189, 191, and elsewhere in the same volume that the Hanoverian Resident in London late in the reign of George II was a Baron Philip Adolph von Munchausen who between July and October 1760 received from the Treasury the exceptional sum of £79.490:15s and fivepence three farthings for"his late Majesty's special service".   No doubt he too would have had some remarkable tales to tell.   Perhaps he should be exposed to disambiguation , at least, since I genuinely turned to Wikipedia in the hope that the Treasury was funding the subject of the article.   No such luck, but one is still curious.Delahays (talk) 18:40, 23 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: On the German wikipedia we find his brother de:Gerlach Adolph von Münchhausen, and here we find an article about his predecessor as head of the German Chancery in London, Ernst von Steinberg. But Philipp Adolph von Münchhausen does not yet have an article written about him.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 05:43, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philipp Adolph von Munchausen 

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replies: text: The first link is not dead, so I've reinstated it. The second link has changed its URL but still exists on the website, so I've put in an updated URL. Thanks!--Lemuellio (talk) 19:40, 27 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Is there a native Germanophone who could confirm or correct the pronunciation guide in the lede?  Since the root of the surname is Münch, and that city is roughly pronounced "moonk", rather than the "munch" given in the guide, I doubt that the Anglocentric rendering of "munch" is correct.  And before anyone points out that this wiki is about the fictional character, I would ask if the book (which was, after all, the source for the films) actually states the preferred pronunciation, or if Hollywood imposed its own (possibly incorrect) pronunciation upon the character. Bricology (talk) 13:24, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The lede includes two pronunciation guides: one for the fictional character and one for the historical figure. The pronunciation for the fictional character is sourced from a reliable dictionary, so, per WP:V ("content is determined by previously published information rather than the beliefs or experiences of its editors"), it wouldn't be advisable to replace it with original research. Lemuellio (talk) 14:32, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: I seem to recall in the 1980s that Paderborn's local brewery used a Baron Munchhausen logo of him on a cannon ball (my parents were stationed there back in the day). Gerdesj (talk) 18:59, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I probably should have done some better research first: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paderborner_Brauerei#/media/File:Advertising_on_side_of_Berlin_bus_and_taxi_1977.jpg - that isn't the  logo as I remember it but it is unmistakably the Baron. Gerdesj (talk) 19:02, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paderborner brewery logo 

message: In the german wiki it is a NON-FICTIONAL, real living person! 
Born 11. May 1720 in Bodenwerder; died 22. February in Bodenwerder, son of a noble man from Braunschweig-Lüneburg.
And please move to "Baron Münchhausen"
--  193.196.128.254 (talk) 11:31, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is primarily about the fictional character, not the non-fictional person who served as the basis for the fictional character. The non-fictional person is referenced in the first paragraph of the article, and the first full section of the article discusses the historical individual. The surname of the fictional character appears to be spelled correctly...that is to say, without the umlaut. DonIago (talk) 12:20, 11 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:   fictional ? 

message: In the article, it is stated as fact that Raspe authored the anonymous (German) anecdotes in the "Vademecum für lustige Leute". In the German wikipedia page, it is stated that the authorship is often attributed to the publisher August Mylius, but that this cannot be taken for certain since his name is not on the title page. 
There is a reference to the book by David Blamires, which indeed states that the authors of the German and English text were established to be the same. He refers as a source to a book by Schweizer which I do not have access to. It would be useful to know how it was established that Raspe was the author of the German text, and whether there is indeed concensus about this. If this is the case, then presumably it should be stated on the German wikipedia page also, as currently I am left puzzled. Lasse (talk) 15:39, 28 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Raspe's authorship of the "Vademecum" text 

message: I can understand the inability to type-set ü, at least then, but I don't see the inability to correct the missing H site-wide now. It seems much too provincial for an English-language online encyclopedia, even beyond required reading lists in schools for youngsters to find it. The disambiguation for the surname and place is a bit messy, don't you agree? Anyway, this is my suggestion to improve this article. Cheers.
Henrik Erlandsson 23:05, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: We go by "Common name" in English-language contexts, not necessarily what is most theoretically correct. AnonMoos (talk) 01:50, 15 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing H? 

message: Given that Baron Munchausen's Narrative of his Marvellous Travels and Campaigns in Russia is a stub and a significant portion of this article covers Raspe's work, shouldn't that article be merged with Baron Munchausen? Paintflakes (talk) 01:44, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: * Oppose - I don't think a merge makes sense. Baron Munchausen is about a lot of different things with the character as a central tenet, while the other page is about a specific book that definitely fits WP:GNG on its own. If anything the stub should be expanded for information specific about the book itself. Choucas Bleu (T·C) 16:29, 15 March 2024 (UTC)

text: *Oppose per Choucas Bleu. If anything, the merge should be the other way around, since the FA Baron Munchausen is largely about the book (I am not seriously suggesting this and would oppose that merge too). Toadspike [Talk] 08:48, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge "Baron Munchausen's Narrative of his Marvellous Travels and Campaigns in Russia" with this page 

message: The redirect Munchasan Kathakal has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Steel1943 (talk) 13:19, 5 March 2024 (UTC)
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