Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Illinois/Archive 2

message: Is there any place specific that we are placing maps of Illinois? Especially the ones that show the locations of cities/towns/villages? --Kranar drogin 22:09, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think most are located in Wikimedia Commons at commons:Category:Maps of Illinois and commons:Category:Illinois county locator maps. There are a few at :Category:Illinois maps. If you have free licensed ones, I'd recommend putting them in the commons. As for a gallery page of maps, I don't know of one. --Dual Freq 22:21, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not a free license, it is basically those county ones, except instead of the whole county in red, it would just be the city or whatnot like if you were to click on my Illinois cities in the Wikipedia already. Here is an example . --Kranar drogin 00:01, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, I have started moving the city maps of the articles that I am working on over to that Category.--Kranar drogin 02:22, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is another suggestion maybe, should we make another Category to keep all Illinois pictures in, or is there one already? Looking at the skyline of Chicago, I see that the picture isn't stored in a Category, but is this something that we should add that way we have all Illinois pics in one area? Maybe one for city picutures or something?--Kranar drogin 03:45, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maps 

message: I don't know who's watching this page, but commons:Category:Age pyramids for counties in Illinois has a bunch of age pyramids for Illinois counties, used in the German wikipedia, (for an example see: de:Adams County (Illinois)). Maybe we could add those images to Illinois counties here as well. Just a thought. Thanks for the help. --Dual Freq 01:29, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be nice to have if they have them for all the counties, but it seems it is only to the "Ls". --Kranar drogin 01:51, 3 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I've added the age pyramids to the county articles. Some of them are quite interesting, like Jackson County, Illinois with the large university. It is skewed heavily toward 18-24 year olds. And Brown County, Illinois with the large male state prison is skewed heavily toward males. It would be nice to get the rest, but the creator seems to have moved on to other things. I've moved on to creating infoboxes for the counties starting at the beginning alphabetically, I'm about halfway done. --Dual Freq 15:57, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible todo list item 

message: I have been using this city template for towns and cities of the county I am working on, example Oregon. The map blew up big time since I don't have a seal or flag for it yet. Is there maybe generic images we can plug into there that might shrink this map down? I should prolly have them in a few days hopefully this week. Thanks.--Kranar drogin 14:59, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed some of the template errors. You must have copied from an article that used an older version. Take a look at Template:Infobox City for more details. --Dual Freq 15:25, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, ok. Well, I got the one I used from where I can choose templates, but I must have chosen the wrong one. Thanks for the assistance.--Kranar drogin 21:31, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seals and Flags 

message: Do Illinois residents think of their cities as settlements?  Well, check out :Category:Settlements in Illinois that's as of today in your category hierarchy.  I reverted it out for Kentucky, and I recommend all states do it as well. Kentucky uses "Subdivisions" and Massachusetts uses "Administrative divisions" (both reasonable). "Settlements" are for pioneer days, not for contemporary political subdivisions. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 04:15, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Settlements?

message: I've added some additional functionality to Template:WikiProject Illinois adding |small=yes creates a smaller version if there is little room for the template, like on Talk:Abraham Lincoln. Additionally to aid is article improvement, I've added a "class=" variable. Classes are FA, A, GA, B, start, stub, dab, image, redirect, Template, category or list. Assignment places the article in the appropriate category. All articles join :Category:WikiProject Illinois articles and all articles without a class= variable are assigned to :Category:Unassessed WikiProject Illinois articles. Assessments should be done according to Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team/Assessment. :Category:WikiProject Illinois is where to start looking for WP:Illinois articles and allows viewing of related subcategories. --Dual Freq 22:19, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There currently over 1000 unassessed articles, I'll be classifying obvious stubs with AWB, but the rest of the articles will probably have to be manually done. --Dual Freq 22:19, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since this one deals with templates, I was going to bring this up. I have noticed that a few county templates are different than the standard we established such as DuPage County. There are a few others. How do we want to change these? Should we? I like what we have now, but should we have anything else listed in them? I think schools is pointless, transportation would be for your airports, and Points of Interest? Not sure on that one either really. Thoughts?--Kranar drogin 22:00, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The DuPage Cty template may work for that county, but ranking by size won't be worth the time for a county like Coles or Adams. I added the airport item, but I suppose it's not needed. It seemed like something all the counties would have in common and would be notable enough to have a wikipedia article. As for other items, I'm not sure it's worth including them. Where do we draw the line for points of interest? I could see where schools could get out of hand especially if every one in the county is included down to K-8 schools. However, as an example, for Jackson County, Illinois, SIUC is probably more important than Southern Illinois Airport so maybe there is some room for 4 year Colleges. The last thing we need is another huge template as large as the Illinois template taking up the whole screen at the bottom of every county article. My comments on other templates have not held much weight so in the interest of peace it's probably best to leave the Chicagoland county templates alone. Since I copied a Pennsylvania template, I guess I won't feel bad if someone wants to change them. --Dual Freq 01:08, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, looking at other states, like Colorado Springs, Colorado, San Diego, California, and Las Vegas, Nevada do not list the cities by that extensive of a population. Maybe for Chicagoland area that is fine, but honestly, I just feel that for county templates that there should be a uniform for the entire state. oh well.--Kranar drogin 01:32, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template:WikiProject Illinois new assessment function 

message: I think that a page on this should be developed. Illinois is home of many smart people, and great coaches(Sean Payton, the New Orleans Saints coach, grew up in  Naperville) Znsga 01:09, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is really no need for a list that will never be finished and could contain millions of names. The project is better off just adding the person to :Category:People from Illinois or one of its subcategories. List of people from Illinois is for very notable people in Illinois history, so sports and pop culture is not needed there. --Dual Freq 05:21, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  people who were born/grew up in Illinois 

message: It would be nice to get some details as to the area that Illinois congressional districts covered over the years. Does anyone have a source of maps or descriptions of the Illinois congressional districts prior to 2003? History of 19th Century congressional redistricting in Ohio looks like almost an ideal article to strive toward. --Dual Freq 05:25, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Illinois Blue Books from 1900 to 2000 has maps of districts and biographies of congressmen from that time period, in case anyone is interested. I think the copyright expired on the early 1900s stuff, but double check before you copy it verbatim. I can alter some images like I did on Illinois's 11th congressional district if anyone needs old congressional district maps. (assuming the district is the whole county) --Dual Freq 04:06, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical apportionment 

message: Any Metro-east experts here? The article was created listing 10 counties, then it was changed to 11 counties last year. Now it is down to 6 counties. Greater St. Louis only includes 5 Illinois counties. Does anyone have any cited info on what Metro-east actually is? --Dual Freq 19:05, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think they might be basing it off of this link .--Kranar drogin 19:14, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Metro-East]] 

message: I thought I would pose this question here. I was wondering if anyone would be interested in a child project focused on water bodies of Illinois. I had two thoughts here. One was that we could do Illinois Waterways, rivers, streams, creeks etc, of which coverage is woefully inadequate and/or highly unorganized. The other thought was that we could do water bodies of Illinois, basically all of the aforementioned plus lakes and major ponds. We could settle questions like naming conventions, which are, at the best helter-skelter. That kind of question is something we could pass along to other state projects. Anyone interested? Have any thoughts? Post them here, if we have enough support we shall propose said project.A mcmurray 06:19, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I can help you do this, once I have all the townships posted at least. I still have MANY to go yet, so it will be at least a month or so. I wanted to get these all on here and stubbed, so that way people who live in those areas come on they might take the opportunity to research their areas. I also am trying to get either Oregon, Illinois or Rockford, Illinois up to better write-ups, but have been so busy that I haven't been able to get to them.--Kranar drogin 21:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New child project?

message: Wanted to let you all know that the new city infobox can be found here Template talk:Infobox City. When you work on cities and villages, you will want to use this updated one from now on.--Kranar drogin 22:00, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  City Infoboxes 

message: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ilcumber/ilctybnd/ilall.htm has an interesting look at historical county boundaries. It would be nice if we could have something similar for The Illinois county article, maybe an artistic person could take that up. Looking at the images gives some perspective on the initial settling of Illinois, with the southern part organizing into counties before the northern part. It's also interesting that a county like Putnam was huge, taking up the bulk of northern Illinois, but now it is one of the smallest counties in the state, same with Edwards County. Anyway, I'm posting this here in case anyone wants to do anything with it. --Dual Freq 15:07, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I could give it a try but it is going to take awhile. I highly double I will be able to put that shadow affect in either, I am not THAT good. Which maps would you want to use? Make a list of them and I can give it a shot. Also, we should use all those dates on there when counties were formed to add to the county pages, or if they are already on the pages, I don't think they are in all the infoboxes.--Kranar drogin 15:34, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just made :Category:Illinois city locator maps for those types of maps. That one is GFDL and should probably be on commons. Feel free to add the category to other images too. --Dual Freq 00:56, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  County maps 

message: DeKalb County Courthouse and University of Illinois Observatory are currently good article nominees. If you haven't contributed significantly to the articles (everyone but me) feel free to evaluate it based on the six good article criteria, just follow the instructions on the good article candidates page.A mcmurray 13:08, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Good article nominations

message: ===Joseph F. Glidden House===
A request has been made for Joseph F. Glidden House to undergo a peer review. Please help out at the article's peer review page. Thanks.A mcmurray 10:09, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer review

message: A request has been made for Joseph F. Glidden House to undergo a peer review. Please help out at the article's peer review page. Thanks.A mcmurray 10:09, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Joseph F. Glidden House

message: I have seen some Wiki Projects doing some sort of group collaboration for a week or something to that sort. I was wondering if we might want to start doing something like this. I know that right now we have been hitting Springfield pretty hard with getting that up to Good status, maybe that is the sort of collaboration we want to go for, a Good Article Collaboration? Have a template created to post on an article to work on?--Kranar drogin 22:55, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WP Milhist has a pretty elaborate selection process at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Military_history/Collaboration, I've blatantly stolen their template and made a new one: Template:WikiProject Illinois Current collaboration. The collaboration article goes in here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Illinois/Collaboration/Current. This project seems to be fairly informal, so I would think the selection process can simply be proposing an article here on this talk page and if there are no objections changing the template to match the article and moving the template to the talk page of the target. The time period is fortnight (from mil hist template), but if someone wants week or month then that's fine too. I put in Springfield as a start since you are working on that right now. --Dual Freq 00:01, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, my initial goal was to get the capital done, then prolly the top 5 in population as of the 2000 census, excluding Chicago. So it would be like Rockford, Aurora, etc. Thoughts?--Kranar drogin 00:05, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I also think we should have it up at the top of the WikiProject Illinois page so people can see right away when they come here what is currently our collaboration.--Kranar drogin 00:50, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Group Collaborations 

message: This article is now nominated for copyvio deletion.--Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 19:40, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Institute of Design IIT]] 

message: There are currently two Illinois related peer reviews posted, Chana School and Springfield, Illinois. This is their first step on the way to GAC and, maybe, one day, FAC. Now is the chance to input and help out. Please post your reviews on the linked pages above. Thanks in advance. IvoShandor 13:24, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Illinois peer reviews

message: I have opened up a straw poll questioning whether or not the inclusion of information about the March 2006 tornadoes in the climate section of the Springfield, Illinois article is a case of recentism. In the end we are trying to decide if the information should be included in the article. Please weigh in on this issue at the ongoing discussion. Any opinions would help. Thanks ahead of time. IvoShandor 14:05, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Straw Poll: Springfield Tornadoes

message: Could someone fix the info box for Clarendon Hills, Illinois?  I'm not sure what's wrong with it but it's definitely broken.  Dismas|(talk) 21:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Old vandalism. It's fixed now. --Dual Freq 22:01, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  broken infobox