Talk:Billy Ray Cyrus discography

message: I would like to suggest that we re-construct Billy Ray's album chart, so that the RIAA Certification isn't shown, so it can't or won't cause conflict.  Also, I would like to make its own Discography page which was created earlier in the year, and was deleted. ElboMisery1993 01:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do you wish the RIAA certification stuff to go away? It is authoritative and is based on the most accurate data available. It does measure stuff differently than the Nielsen_SoundScan retail sales figures, but it included more sales outlets than soundscan. I think is is good data and should be incorporated with any conflicts explained, if necessary.--NrDg 03:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Discography page is made Billy Ray Cyrus discography. --Caldorwards4 02:00, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. I think the discography page can be justified as notable and I would like to see the main Billy Ray Cyrus page concentrate on his bio. --NrDg 03:22, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Album Chart Re-Construction Suggestion 

message: RIAA has 4 official certifications, Gold, Platinum, Multi-Platinum, Diamond. See http://www.riaa.com/goldandplatinum.php?content_selector=criteria for how RIAA defines them. I think we should list certifications exactly as RIAA issues them and not reinterpret them. Specifically Some Gave All is listed in the database as "9.00x MULTI PLATINUM" and that is how I think we should report the certification (with formatted to conform to Wiki MOS) --NrDg 04:37, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RIAA certification 

message: Ok, so my source for the sales is an un-named women, who gets all the chart stats as well as sales for artists' fans who want them.  Myself, is a fan of Billy Ray, and I wanted the sales figures for all of his albums.  So I contacted her through the internet, and she came up those sales.  So now that I have stated my source, WHICH IS CORRECT, I would like for them to stay on the table. Thanks. ElboMisery1993 21:37, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Provide a variable source and we will believe them. --Caldorwards4 21:39, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What kind of source do you want to me to state? I just told you what it was.  And, I didn't even ask her wher she got them... I just asked for them. (ElboMisery1993) 22:27, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The key thing is that other people can independently verify the information. That is actually more important than whether or not the information is correct. It is better to not have the information at all if we can't verify it. What this means is that we need sufficient information about the source that any one of us can firstly evaluate whether or not that source is a reliable one, and secondly go to that same source independently of you and check it out for ourselves. Web locations are easiest but not strictly necessary. If we can't do that, we can't use the information per wikipedia policy. If you add the information without doing all that you will just annoy people, the information will be removed, this article will be protected again and you will be blocked on this IP like you were on the other IPs you used. I appreciate that you are trying to improve the article and I approve your motivation - please, please do so while following the wikipedia rules. --NrDg 22:39, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  US Sales & Sources 

message: Suggestion.......I think someone should add the rest of the chart positions that each album/song has charted on.  For instance, the album, The Other Side charted on the Christain chart at #5, so that should be mentioned on the table/chart thing.
Also, for songs, most of Billy Ray's songs have charted on the Pop 100, so add that chart. But on the other hand, "Ready, Set, Don't Go" for example, I think is his only chart entry on both the Digital and Canadian Hot 100.....so I don't think it'd be necessary to add those. 76.246.126.88 (talk) 21:34, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  All of the Chart Positions 

message: Please leave discography page as is....It took me forever to re-do it. BRClover2008 (talk) 21:43, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: HOW DARE YOU THREATEN OTHER EDITORS? Everyone can change anyone's edits if he doesn't like them. Everyone is trying to improve the discography.--Langdon (talk) 18:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please.... 

message: I suggest that the album chart can be edited like the album chart in Carrie Underwood discography.
Year	Album        	Chart Positions	Chart Positions	Chart Positions	Chart Positions	Chart Positions	Chart Positions	US Sales  	RIAA                   	CRIA                   	Worldwide Sales
Year	Album        	US Country     	US 200         	CAN Albums     	CAN Country    	AUS Country    	World          	US Sales  	RIAA                   	CRIA                   	Worldwide Sales
2005	Some Hearts  	1              	2              	11             	1              	12             	2              	6,238,000+	6× Multi-platinum	3× Multi-platinum	8,659,234+
2007	Carnival Ride	1              	1              	1              	1              	9              	1              	1,793,000 	2× Multi-platinum	                       	1,989,825
The table combines all the information that a album has. It is much more simple. I don't know why that there is a conflict in showing RIAA and US Sales. = = --Langdon (talk) 18:58, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done! --Caldorwards4 (talk) 22:29, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Albums 

message: Here's how I would like the discography page to look like. It needs to be more updated, such as other country artists pages are. Here's what I think it should look like (with the sources still in place). . .
=== Studio albums ===
Year	Album                 	Label                 	Chart Positions	Chart Positions	Chart Positions	Certifications         	Certifications
Year	Album                 	Label                 	US Country     	US             	CAN Country    	RIAA                   	CRIA
1992	Some Gave All         	PolyGram/Mercury      	1              	1              	1              	9× Multi-Platinum	Diamond
1993	It Won't Be the Last  	PolyGram/Mercury      	1              	3              	2              	Platinum               	2× Platinum
1994	Storm in the Heartland	PolyGram/Mercury      	11             	77             	6              	Gold                   	Gold
1996	Trail of Tears        	Mercury Nashville     	20             	125            	12             	                       	
1998	Shot Full of Love     	Mercury Nashville     	32             	               	9              	                       	
2000	Southern Rain         	Monument              	13             	102            	24             	                       	
2003	Time Flies            	Madacy                	56             	               	               	                       	
2003	The Other Side        	Word/Warner Bros./Curb	18             	131            	               	                       	
2006	Wanna Be Your Joe     	New Door/UMe          	24             	113            	               	                       	
2007	Home at Last          	Walt Disney           	3              	20             	               	                       	
2008	Back to Tennessee     	Walt Disney           	To be released 	To be released 	To be released 	To be released         	To be released
(the Compilation albums section is fine the way it is)
Now the singles table, we have a problem:
# The widths are too big.
# Too many footnotes; it's unattractive
# 2 songs charted from unsolicited airplay; "Some Gave All" and "Fastest Horse", which would mean it gets it's own section
# Guest singles need to be updated with an "Artist" column
Also, for "Ready, Set, Don't Go", Billy Ray's solo version was on the charts with Home at Last. But here comes little Miley, and comes along while the song is in the Top 40. The duet version is only available on later presses of the album, so it should resemble something like Blake Shelton discography with "Home" being on later releases.
After all that is said and done, it will look so much better. Thanks for your patience, I hope it gets done. 75.58.185.182 (talk) 14:43, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: *Okay, I see what you did. I thought you had messed something up but you didn't. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!) 17:48, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixing / Updating the Discography 

message: Year	Album                 	Label                 	Chart Positions	Chart Positions	Chart Positions	Certifications         	Certifications
Year	Album                 	Label                 	US Country     	US             	CAN Country    	RIAA                   	CRIA
1992	Some Gave All         	PolyGram/Mercury      	1              	1              	1              	9× Multi-Platinum	Diamond
1993	It Won't Be the Last  	PolyGram/Mercury      	1              	3              	2              	Platinum               	2× Platinum
1994	Storm in the Heartland	PolyGram/Mercury      	11             	77             	6              	Gold                   	Gold
1996	Trail of Tears        	Mercury Nashville     	20             	125            	12             	                       	
1998	Shot Full of Love     	Mercury Nashville     	32             	               	9              	                       	
2000	Southern Rain         	Monument              	13             	102            	24             	                       	
2003	Time Flies            	Madacy                	56             	               	               	                       	
2003	The Other Side        	Word/Warner Bros./Curb	18             	131            	               	                       	
2006	Wanna Be Your Joe     	New Door/UMe          	24             	113            	               	                       	
2007	Home at Last          	Walt Disney           	3              	20             	               	                       	
2008	Back to Tennessee     	Walt Disney           	To be released 	To be released 	To be released 	To be released         	To be released
(the Compilation albums section is fine the way it is)
Now the singles table, we have a problem:
# The widths are too big.
# Too many footnotes; it's unattractive
# 2 songs charted from unsolicited airplay; "Some Gave All" and "Fastest Horse", which would mean it gets it's own section
# Guest singles need to be updated with an "Artist" column
Also, for "Ready, Set, Don't Go", Billy Ray's solo version was on the charts with Home at Last. But here comes little Miley, and comes along while the song is in the Top 40. The duet version is only available on later presses of the album, so it should resemble something like Blake Shelton discography with "Home" being on later releases.
After all that is said and done, it will look so much better. Thanks for your patience, I hope it gets done. 75.58.185.182 (talk) 14:43, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: *Okay, I see what you did. I thought you had messed something up but you didn't. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!) 17:48, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Studio albums 

message: I've put the certifications into it's own table just to cut back on repeated sources and so there all together in one spot in case someone was looking for a certain one. 76.232.226.54 (talk) 19:59, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Certifications 

message: Can I, or someone else, add the video albums to the compilation table... and put all the certifications into one table. That way, if someone was searching for a specific one, they'd all be right there for them. It's all spread out everywhere.
Also, could someone add the Canadian Singles Chart column, like some artists have saying, "RPM (1992-2000), Canadian Hot 100 (2007-present). Like on the Faith Hill discography. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (talk) 15:15, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  merging/fixing 

message: According to its Billboard chart listing, the liner notes to the album, and the text on the tape itself, "Wher'm" is indeed the correct spelling. Please do not change it back. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 20:37, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wher'm I Gonna Live? 

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