Talk:Mall of America

message: "the mall receives 40 million visitors annually while the Minneapolis-St. Paul metro only receives 18 million visitors each year" -- this makes no sense.  The Mall of America is in the Minneapolis-St. Paul metro area, so the people visiting the mall are a subset of visitors to the Minneapolis-St. Paul metro area.  There's no way that a super-set can be smaller than one of its components.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.176.151.28 (talk) 19:03, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I removed all of the insulting language here, which was well, EVERYTHING written here. If someone is going to edit an article, then EDIT it. This is NOT the place to bandy about insults. If you see a problem, (Which in this case was the misspelling of the word "Edmonton") Then FIX IT WITHOUT ADDING COMMENTARY LIKE "AMERICAN SCHOOLS DON'T TEACH".
Do we really need so many editors with a Quatloo complex? WIKIPEDIA IS NOT A CLIQUE!
the mall of america has 300 stores
Osirisrising (talk) 18:49, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Edmington is in Alberto, Canadia. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 03:02, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  West Edmington Mall references removed (Edmington... where's that?) 

message: Wasn't there a rollercoaste accident on a coaster in Mall of America? I might be confused with another mall but I know there was one in the 80s that derailed and killed some people. Does anyone know any insight into what I have described? - Thanks --x1987x 17:28, Jun 18, 2005 (UTC)
:Gee, nevermind. [] Mindbender coaster in the West Edmonton Mall. hehe.
::I don't recall any rollercoaster accidents, but the "Mighty Axe" has had quite a few incidents in which is has gotten stuck upside down with riders on it (apparently it has a safety brake that kicked in).  This happened at least three times between it's intro and 2001 when I left the area. -- Kaszeta 13:07, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rollercoaster Accident? 

message: With the exception of Hooters, all the bars, restaurants, and nightclubs on the 4th floor have closed down.  Jillians (who owned just about every club on the floor) had declared bankruptcy last year, so they were on thin ice financially as it was, and the new law in Hennepin County which included bars in the state's public smoking ban nailed Jillians' coffin shut.  So now all that's on the 4th floor is Hooters and AMC.
EmiOfBrie 07:11, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Updated info

message: According to this website, information regarding the King of Prussia Mall, Mall of America, and Woodfield Mall is incorrect. Perhaps we should check this information and update accordingly? Ajwebb 18:11, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual Size 

message: The MOA lost rights to use the Peanuts franchise recently. It's been temporarily renamed "The Park at MOA".  This section should be re-written from scratch shaggy 07:30, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Camp Snoopy 

message: I removed this unsourced assertion:
:A few years ago a Wall Street Journal writer described the style of the MOA as a "stegosaurus," although it remains a popular attraction.
Feel free to replace when sourced. —Encephalon 06:49, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source needed. 

message: Could Minnesota Picnic be added to this list? Chris 23:35, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "Formerly contained the restaurants..."

message: Overall I think that this is a really good article, but I've placed an "original research" tag on it since it seems to make a lot of unsourced assertions.  Can we please find some more references to show where the information is coming from, and to prove notability?  I'm not saying that the mall isn't famous -- just that right now this article is way way outside of WP:V. --Elonka 18:49, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It needs footnotes (so do a lot of articles), but it's very far from original research, which is a very specific concept. As such, I've removed the tag as inappropriate. Rebecca 23:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Original research

message: We were at MOA last night and the Dinosaur Walk museum was closed and shuttered.  A few weeks ago it was still open.  Anyone know what's up with that area?  I'm still lamenting the closing of Golf Mountain...  --Rehcsif 21:17, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dinosaur Walk Museum 

message: Should we merge the Square Footage / square metrage and Anchors section since most mall articles have the square feet after the anchor. Ex.
*Wal-Mart(100,000 Square Feet)
Metallic95   User Page | Talk 04:26, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section Merge 

message: Just curious, does the mall of america ever close? 
If it does close, than how does it stay warm because from what I understand, the light fixtures and heat from the people walking inside the mall are the only heaters for the building.
: In Minnesota we've learned how to build efficient buildings that lose very little heat and capture maximum daylight during the day. The Mall hours change regularly of course but stores generally close around 9pm. The building stays unlocked usually until midnight. It use to open until 2am on most nights because of the fourth level bars. Still, there is so much building mass, electrical components, and ambient lighting during the eight hours of being closed that it is unlikely to ever freeze. With the raw cubic feet of the mall as well, the air would take many days before it would become freezing. Much of the building shell is buffered by service hallways and in turn is buffered by stores. So the interior air of the walkways and Camp Snoopy is well insulated. 75.72.162.175 07:32, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Operation hours 

message: I wrote about the rides, thrill, family, kiddie, and I don't know why its gone now.  What happened?
--Gamekid 01:54, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A wiki encyclopedic article is pretty dry, factual, etc. It's not a place to hurrah or emotionally discuss how much the mall rocks. .:DavuMaya:. 15:27, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone took off my part in the article...WHY? 

message: This article info should get sourced in http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/08/realestate/commercial/08mall.html?n=Top/News/Business/Companies/Simon%20Property%20Group,%20Inc.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Davumaya (talk • contribs) 17:10, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions 

message: Our article on Woodfield Mall says that it is the third largest in terms of retail space.  So one of the articles is wrong. john k (talk) 07:15, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  retail space 

message: The recent attempts by IP addresses, to post a reference to some book and video, look like "coatrack" attempts to post spam, i.e. to try to sell a product. Note the POV wording and that the thrust of the paragraph is not actually about the MOA, but about the author's attempt to sell something. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 10:37, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spam 

message: The cited source () says:
:During the winter months, when temperatures in Minneapolis rarely climb about freezing, it remains warm inside the mall, even without a heating system. "Can you imagine a building this large, in the state of Minnesota, is not heated, even in January and February!" spokesman Daniel Jasper exclaims. "We heat the mall through our skylights and through body heat of all of our customers and light bulbs. Believe it or not! We don't have a central furnace."
I'm reverting the recent edit removing this and removing the failed verification tag. A separate source can be found for the Air conditioning claim. shaggy (talk) 01:01, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes you reverted the air conditioning sentence which I removed, not the heating sentence. The reason is, I believe it is hear say and not an actual definitive fact. I think it's been propagated here for so long and no one has bothered to remove it. In doing a google search, all I find are other wiki-like websites that have copied the sentence verbatim. I don't believe this is an actual fact, there is no primary source for it. Most likely if the mall was hot during the winter, they'd just circulate outside air (duh). I don't understand why air conditioning would need to be used if outside air is chilly. I'm asking for Consensus to remove the sentence altogether. .:davumaya:. 03:18, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Here you go - official, from the mall of america itself - "No central heating system"
http://www.mallofamerica.com/about/community
P38fln (talk) 00:05, 2 May 2012 (UTC)

text: If someone gets real desparate, they could maybe contact the Mall and find out. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? 04:54, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Generally, you don't delete information just because you feel it isn't right. Give someone time to do the research and find a proper source, within a reasonable time. Finding the required information might take longer than 40 hours. shaggy (talk) 05:13, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The information was added a long time ago, see this edit in 2005 . In three years and dozens of editors the air conditioning fact still has not been resolved, I doubt another few days will do anything more. It's become a myth. .:davumaya:. 14:41, 10 July 2008 (UTC)

text: The information comes from a presentation on The History Channel.  I can neither remember the show nor the date, but it has been some time since I have seen it. 4 June 09  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.14.232.100 (talk) 09:35, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Heating Citation 

message: I removed non-notable attractions at MOA that appeared to be thinly veiled linkspam. --75.161.191.93 (talk) 03:13, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The above serves as a testatment to our modern educational system. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 10:11, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable attractions 

message: Request: I'd like to see a section covering the history of crime in the Mall during the earlier years of the its history. 75.72.53.191 (talk) 22:42, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it's haunted by a host of ghosts of stores that went bust. ←Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots→ 04:34, 5 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crime Statistics 

message: american girl  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.19.84.208 (talk) 20:54, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know what your saying, but it's there.--99 time 14:29, 9 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  american girl 

message: I noticed this article is using Template:Infobox building, and thought I'd suggest that it might be helpful to replace that with Template:Infobox shopping mall (currently used in ~2400 articles, eg. West Edmonton Mall). If there are parameters that are missing, then it might be helpful to improve the infobox, so that all shopping centers can benefit. Cheers. :) –Quiddity (talk) 01:23, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems reasonable to me. Ruby 2010/2013 19:04, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replace the Infobox building with Infobox shopping mall 

message: New logo of Russian Armed Forces is the old logo of Mall of America. (in russian): http://rufabula.com/news/2014/06/22/army-logo
--Luch4 (talk) 06:31, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: This page is about a mall, and while many of the mall's attractions are mentioned, there is no mention of what the five main anchor stores are. This should be included in an article about a mall. Perhaps somebody who is familiar with this mall could add this information. I would do it, but mall directories (the only source of information I have since I am not familiar with the mall and do not live in the area) are not always accurate, and they do not list former anchors which may have closed, changed hands, or new anchors which may have been added since the mall opened.Cascade1988 (talk) 16:40, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Anchor Stores 

message: It is absurd to have an article in Wikipedia in 2015 that says something is planned for 2007, and there "will be" this that and the other thing. There are a lot of statements of this sort in this article. I suspect it would be best to rewrite the whole thing much more succinctly and to leave out, as far as possible, any assertions that are unlikely still to be true a year or two down the road. --Rosharuo (talk) 05:56, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to update it. I often find myself updating articles that refer to future events years in the past. 68.146.52.234 (talk) 18:28, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's past is past 

message: I just checked and the interiors mentioned as being featured on Google Street View no longer appear to be available (I just checked and other than old images taken in the parking lot and a handful of panoramic photographs there is no "street view"-style feature). This should be removed or updated. 68.146.52.234 (talk) 18:28, 8 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Google Street View

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message: Some say the King of Prussia Mall is larger and so we need to decide. <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 22:45, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have noticed an edit war seems to be going on regarding this fact so we should find a source to verify the size of the mall compared to King of Prussia. <<< SOME GADGET GEEK >>> (talk) 14:04, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Whatever mall is the largest, edits should use "As of" and a date. (And citations, of course.) Mall sizes change from time to time, and editors won't always update the articles as expansion projects are completed. SlowJog (talk) 02:03, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the mall ''actually'' the largest? 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Why does a fairly small city have the largest mall in the US? How is there the demand for such a large mall? Do millions of people from elsewhere shop there? Jim Michael (talk) 14:57, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: For one, it is in a Metro area. Bloomington borders Minneapolis. For another, when it was first proposed, developers planned on it being a tourist attraction. SlowJog (talk) 02:07, 16 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Why is it so big?

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message: There is no reason to indicate that the attacked was "black" and the victim was caucasian. There is nothing to suggest the attack was racially motivated. FrunkSpace (talk) 09:55, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
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message: Howard from NYC (talk) 10:47, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: These are all great questions but the Mall of America is owned by a private company so these figures are not typically disclosed. JayJayWhat did I do? 19:51, 6 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Q: fiscal? 

message: MOA distributes over 100,000 lady bugs a year throughout the mall. This allows for biological control as the aphids are attracted to jasmine shrubs and Abicolas. Self-pollinating fruit trees. Over 30,000 live plants on property 2603:6011:A807:2454:F452:8558:DB3E:1444 (talk) 00:53, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plants and Animals