Talk:Michael Fincke

message: This article needs extensive rewriting to make it acceptable and not merely a copy of: http://www.energia.ru/english/energia/iss/iss09/fink.html. -- Solitude 20:28, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Energia

message: At JSC everybody calls him Mike, not Edward.137.82.201.190 17:50, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Edward or Mike?

message: He is the first member from Generation X to fly in space and is the only "Shuttle Era" US Astronaut to fly in space, but not on the American Space Shuttle.
Taken from NASA Bios (www.jsc.nasa.gov/Bios) and doing the math.
Wiggles video info taken from "The Wiggles- Wiggle Around the Clock", (c) 2006, Video Chapter 18  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.197.149.80 (talk) 03:39, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see how this could be included because it is WP:TRIVIA and is conjecture from the NASA source. Also the wiggles thing is pure trivia. -MBK004 03:41, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Conjecture does not equate to verifiability and your logic does not pale above all else. If the GenX thing is specifically stated in the bio without having to "do the math", then it does belong; but without that, or the space shuttle blurb, then it is conjecture. Also, unless he has said he wants an acting career the appearance is trivial without hope of being integrated into the article per the trivia guidelines. -MBK004 03:54, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

text: You are correct with regards to the acting. If the entry is cited correctly using the following template: WP:CIT, it can stay. -MBK004 04:03, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure how that could be cited correctly since the guidelines in place mean we cannot cite wikipedia. It needs independent verifiable coverage to be included. Although this could become part of the article, as I've said, it needs to be specifically addressed by an outside source to be included, and I do not believe that NASA will oblige. Perhaps it will come up in an interview in the future. -MBK004 04:22, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

text: The only foreseeable way of this getting into the article that I can see is if it comes up in an article about him which is published or in an interview during a mission. The mission articles are heavily edited along with the articles on the people while they are in space. Other than that, there needs to be a direct linkage between him and the fact that is independently verifiable without checking facts. I appreciate your wanting to try to improve the article, but at this time I don't think that fact can be included. I'm going to bed now (it's late) and won't be online to respond. -MBK004 04:34, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 19:12, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008 

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