Talk:Tanbur

message: The original version of this talk page was moved to Talk:Tanbur (Persian), so check there for additional relevant content. Right now, tanbur is a disambiguation page. Given the confusion surrounding the term I think even the disambig. page needs (or will need) its own talk page. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 03:36, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also note that Tanbur/Temp exists. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 15:32, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone ahead and removed . -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 16:58, 28 June 2007 (UTC)

text: There was a rather lengthy content dispute concerning this article (along the lines of "the tanbur is Persian, therefore there are no other tanburs." "No it's Turkish" etc. etc. - see Talk:Tanbur (Persian) if you are really curious).  I created this root article, using Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians (the best source that was available to me), as a means of settling the matter.  My primary concern was to resolve this dispute, so there is certainly more work to do (actually this started out as a sort of disambiguation page and as such it retains a rather skeletal format). I do wish to point out that some of what you mention contradicts Grove (or isn't mentioned in Grove) and so we would need additional sources for this. Grove could very well be wrong about the topic; on the other hand, judging from one of the author's names, I'm not sure that it entirely has a Western bias. (If Grove does contain mistakes, I personally wouldn't go so far as to call it a layman's analysis.)  Thanks! -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 16:39, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: This series of edits added some text, minus citations, to the "Origins" section, along with an external link to the "References" section.  The external link doesn't really corroborate the new information so I have removed the text. Furthermore I am not sure the external link would serve as a reliable source so I have instead moved it to "External links". -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 07:45, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed text

message: Someone had proposed merging this article to Tambura. I disagree with this, because the tambura article has already been tagged for splitting (to which of these would we merge?) and "tanbur" and "tambura" can refer to dissimilar instruments.  The tanbur page already makes this disambiguation. I have gone ahead and removed the merge tags from both articles. Thanks, -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 17:54, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge to Tambura 

message: Tanburu was invented during the Akkadian period in mesopotamia and it was named tanburu in Semitic Akkadian and Pantur in Sumerian,it is connected with Semito-Egyptian root NBR=to make sound as in Arabic nabra=musical sound and Egyptian nbr=music instrument.
Humanbyrace (talk) 20:52, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that one sentence does explain, "Lutes have been present in Mesopotamia since the Akkadian era, or the third millennium BCE."  This is based on the attributed sources. Thanks, -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 21:34, 5 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tanbur is a Semitic Akkadian instrument not Persian nor Turkish. 

message: Tembûr and Tanbur are obviously the same. They must be merged. Also see Talk:Tembûr. Thanks--Taranet (talk) 01:19, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: done--Taranet (talk) 10:05, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Tembûr

message: Most of the articles listed in Tambura (such as Tanpura (instrument), Tanbur, Tambur) are the same instrument in different dialects, and it's a great wp:Content forking.--Taranet (talk) 10:05, 27 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Content forking 

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replies: text: File:Sumerian pandura.png is clearly from  although it's interesting that it is called there a harp. Your rename is clearly original research. I note that 3 of the files you uploaded there have been deleted, one of them as recently as the end of November. Dougweller (talk) 17:04, 3 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Harp]] or [[Pandura]] ? 

message: *http://www.zwoje-scrolls.com/zwoje35/text11.htm  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Samizambak (talk • contribs) 09:22, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Real Sumerian harp

message: *https://journals.ku.edu/index.php/folklorica/article/download/3802/3640
There is no denying that the word “kobza” comes from Asia. Numerous Turkic languages have the words kobyz, kopuz, kobuz, kobas, qobuz, qobyz, and many others. The etymology of the word “bandura” is equally transparent. It probably came into Ukrainian from Polish because Western and Southern Europe know many instruments with a similar name; one need only mention the English bandore (more about it later), the Spanish bandurria or the Italian pandura or pandora. These can be traced to the Greek πανδ ω´ρα, which in turn can be connected to the Old Persian tanbūr – the very word used by Ibn Fadlān. This word, in turn, is related to Sumerian pantur/pantur which means little bow.Samizambak (talk) 15:58, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Self-published paper, not cited by any academic sources. Fails WP:RS which you really should read rather than keep posting such stuff to talk pages. Dougweller (talk) 18:42, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Bandura

message: *https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/MandoraSamizambak (talk) 16:16, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mandora 

message: https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bandurria_(instrumento_musical)Samizambak (talk) 16:18, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bandurria 

message: I took it upon myself to change the  WikiProject Musical Instruments importance to mid. If anyone wishes to discuss, I have good reasons. Simply put, this is a family of instruments with 5000+ years of history, covering a large region and multiple countries. Based on that, I claim that this is a notable instrument family. The criteria for mid importance is "Article is only notable within its particular field or subject and has achieved notability in a particular place or area." I am not claiming worldwide notability for the family, but notability in a particular place (a broad geographic region that includes  the Balkans, India, Iraqi Kurdistan, Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Turkey, Tajikestan, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan).Jacqke (talk) 18:58, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Importance changed to mid