Talk:Endogenous retrovirus

message: I've heard a version where retrotransposons containing LTR and endogenous retroviruses are one and the same thing. Personally I can't see the difference. I would appreciate if somebody make the difference clear in the text, or write that they are the same thing. Mortsggah 07:47, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Difference between [[Retrotransposon#LTR_retrotransposons]] and [[endogenous retrovirus]]?

message: I think this article would benefit from a discussion of identification of ERVs - ie how  we know that given piece of DNA is an ERV.
130.225.25.169 13:09, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  It would be nice to know how they concluded that ERVs even existed. Is there some tell-tale sequence of DNA that screams "I'm a virus!"? SCooley138 (talk) 00:24, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Identification of ERVs

message: This article is good: New Yorker
what he means is, This article from the New Yorker about retroviral genes in humans is a good article. (not This Article you're reading right now in Wikipedia.  duh.)  And I read it and it is a REALLY good article! Funny, I saw this article when it first came out and it didn't make much of an impression.  It's important; check out how the reason an implanted egg in a vertebrate like us is able to survive is a relic of retroviral assault.Richard8081 (talk) 01:00, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: nyer

message: Thanks for the interesting article can somone clarify the following?
1. This isn't clear: "During pregnancy ... ERVs are activated and produced in high quantities" ERVs are produced by what? Retroviruses?
     Matt Mosh - Answer: REVs multiply as it thinks it is needed to (biological, fisical or psychologic reflexes). So if they multiply, they come from themselves.
2. "viral fusion proteins apparently cause the formation of the placental syncytium" I don't think this has been proven, from the NYker article: "the protein syncytin, which causes placental cells to fuse together, employs the exact mechanism that enables retroviruses to latch on to the cells they infect". 
Thanks 195.234.175.235 (talk) 12:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarification

message: Rockefeller University. "New Evidence Of Battle Between Humans And Ancient Virus." ScienceDaily 23 July 2008. retrieved on 1 September 2008. DutchTreat (talk) 19:58, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: HERV K113 in ScienceDaily

message: Would it be inappropriate to add a link to Greg Bear's Darwin's Radio which uses as its premise the reactivation of HERV introns? Royan (talk) 15:42, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Fiction

message: Is HERV-K the same as Pan troglodytes endogenous retrovirus? The reference to the latter in the HIV article has now been removed, but the science daily article made me think they're the same. Molitorppd22 (talk) 10:04, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Some (two) HERV-K variants have been found in P. troglodytes, but most have not. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:21, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: HERV-K and PtERV

message: The New Yorker article and recent reports of endogenous lentiviruses neglects the possibility that the lentiviral introgressions in genome projects are exogenous. The genome projects are done using blood, not germline cells.
Joanpontius (talk) 23:15, 10 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Endogenous retroviruses are from germline introgressions 

message: " An immunoevasive action was the initial normal behavior of the viral protein, in order to avail for the virus to spread to other cells by simply merging them with the infected one (HIV does this too)."
This sentence really needs to be rewritten, but i really don't know what it means to communicate.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rmwilliamsjr (talk • contribs) 18:10, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  particularly awkward sentence 

message: Hi I found this article on the BBC (British Broadcasting Corporation): http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17809503 and I was wondering if it could be of use? The subtitle of the article is "races of ancient viruses which infected our ancestors millions of years ago are more widespread in us than previously thought". 
It also links to an abstract of the study done jointly by the Aaron Diamond AIDS Research Centre (New York, USA) and the Rega Institute (Belgium), which was conducted at Oxford University.
78.147.36.98 (talk) 11:29, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article I found on the BBC 

message: The acronym ORF appears for the first and only time in the phrase "the insertion of a solo ERV-9 LTR may have produced a functional ORF" without having been explained previously. What is an ORF? If you know, could you please complement the phrase in the article appropriately? 87.245.83.117 (talk) 19:46, 6 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  what's ORF? 

message: Was this intended to refer to a group of people having the same serum type, or belonging to the Sera people group?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 32.150.216.50 (talk) 14:18, 30 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  sera of people? 

message: I'm still not getting what relation HERV has to HGT. The HGT people tend to like talking about single-celled organisms. Do ERV (and HERV) involve HGT or not? (20040302 (talk) 14:28, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  HERV relation to [[HGT]] 

message: The introductory sentence currently reads:
Endogenous retroviruses are endogenous viral elements that are derived from retroviruses, and they are abundant in the genomes of jawed vertebrates.
which is saying little more than an endogenous retrovirus is a retrovirus that is endogenous. Is it possible to have a less circular and more illuminating introductory sentence? (Unfortunately I am not knowledgeable enough to suggest an good alternative.) 89.243.218.25 (talk) 11:38, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introductory sentence 

message: The introduction contains the text:
ERVs are a subclass of a type of gene called a transposon which is able to be packaged and moved within the genome to serve a vital role in gene expression and regulation. [2] [3]
This gives the impression that a defining property of ERVs is that they 'serve a vital role in gene expression and regulation', and that the reason for them being 'packaged and moved within the genome' is to fulfil this role of regulation. Now, it is true that some individual ERVs do now serve vital roles. However, many do not, and the ones that do were not inserted with the biological function of regulating genes in-mind (as it were). It is not the function of ERVs in general to regulate gene expression. It is an accident of evolution that some now do. I suggest breaking this up into two sentences, the former dealing with the movement and copying within the genome, and a second one stating that the presence of an ERV can modify the regulation of nearby genes, something which evolution has in some case co-opted. Matthew Pocock (talk) 19:47, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Implication that all ERVs are functional given by the introduction. 

message: The second half of the opening paragraph looks like this:
Researchers suggest that retroviruses have evolved from a type of transposable gene called a retrotransposon which includes ERVs; these genes can mutate and instead of moving to another location in the genome they can became exogenous/pathogenic. This means that all ERVs may not have originated as an insertion by a retrovirus but rather some may have been the source of origin for the genetic information in the retroviruses they resemble. [4]
This has lots of nods to interesting and important ERV biology, but is a bit science-salady. 
Researchers suggest: So I don't care much what researchers may or may not suggest, what matters is what research suggests. Picky point, I know, but scientific authority rests with the research, not the researcher. Suggestion: substitute 'researchers with research.
Retrotramsposons aren't a gene. They are, as the retrotransposon page says, genetic elements. They typically are comprised of several genes, together with flanking repeat regions. Suggestion: substitute genes with genetic elements.
Stating that ERVs evolved from retrotransposons and then saying that retrotransposons include ERVs seems redundant. It threw me the first few times I read it. Suggestion: just end the sentence after ERVs.
The next fragment deals with ERV resurrection, were an endogenous version regains the ability to be exogenous. Does this belong in the introduction at all? Suggestion: replace everything after ERVs; with something like this (which needs copy-editing):
ERVs are passed from parent to child in-place within the genome. Some ERVs retain the ability to 'hop' (transpose) to new positions within the genome[*], and others the ability to make duplicates of themselves[*], allowing ERVs to continually increase their colonisation of the host genome. Occasionally, ERVs pick up mutations that re-activate their ability to function as a retrovirus, becoming the progenitor of a new lineage of retroviruses descended from ERVs[4].
We may want references for the two claims I've starred. Matthew Pocock (talk) 20:05, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  2nd half of opening paragraph has all the right words but not, necessarily, in the right order 

message: Why no page on "exogenous retroviruses"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:7:8500:982:5847:5F96:C5F0:633A (talk) 20:10, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Exogenous retroviruses are the "norm", so don't currently need special treatment. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 22:34, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exogenous 

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replies: text: I agree and I have removed the message. Graham Beards (talk) 21:04, 21 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of the word 'novel'  

message: Most of the articles on repeated sequences feature the Template:Repeated sequence, however this does not. Does anyone have a reason why there isn't this template within the article? Ilikelifesciences (talk) 08:29, 6 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Include template repeated sequence into this article 

message: Re
This means that not all ERVs may have originated as an insertion by a retrovirus but that some may have been the source for the genetic information in the retroviruses they resemble Researchers have suggested that retroviruses evolved from a type of transposable gene called a retrotransposon, which includes ERVs; these genes can mutate .and instead of moving to another location in the genome they can become exogenous or pathogenic.
This is like the south african pseudoscience that said hiv was preexisting hervs that popped out of the genome and became infective
I am unable to find any references this idea
 Rmwilliamsjr (talk) 15:58, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is not right 

message: Can we get a simple English version of this? I’m am literally a PhD candidate in a non-biology STEM field and this is still so full of jargon to me that I can’t keep it all straight. —-2601:184:4680:5D50:E4F2:5EE0:5F89:7D6C (talk) 17:12, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simple English Version?  

message: Contradicting statements in the sentences. "PERV-A and PERV-B display LTRs that have repeats in the U3 region. However, PERV-A and PERV-C show repeatless LTRs". David Jonsson 00:41, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does PERV-A have LTR repeats or not? 

message: With this edit, Editor Mbrz7004 reverted my edit with the edit summary .  My edit fixed this reference which showed a deprecated parameter error message because that template has .   is deprecated and, even were it not deprecated, does not display unless there is a matching  parameter; as such, it serves no purpose.  I also fixed this reference which duplicates Suppl 2 in both  and .
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—Trappist the monk (talk) 15:19, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  revert