Talk:Song (state)

message: * this one, which says the last ruler was King Xian (posthumous King Kang) and that he ruled as "Lord Yan" from 337 prior to declaring the kingdom in 328. — LlywelynII 15:49, 6 January 2014 (UTC)
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http://books.google.com/books?id=oulJAQAAIAAJ&q=part+of+the+Chou+feudal+kingdom+and+which+existed+for+nearly+one+thousand+years+more.+Many+of+the+old+Shang+customs+survived+in+this+area+until+the+end.&dq=part+of+the+Chou+feudal+kingdom+and+which+existed+for+nearly+one+thousand+years+more.+Many+of+the+old+Shang+customs+survived+in+this+area+until+the+end.&hl=en&sa=X&ei=c0cJVI0p6OOwBMiLgpgO&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA
http://books.google.com/books?id=oulJAQAAIAAJ&q=These+lords+were+generally+relatives+of+the+Chou+kings,+although+in+several+instances+they+were+descendants+of+previous+rulers+of+the+territory+concerned.+We+have+already+mentioned+that+the+State+of+Sung+was+ruled+by+descendants+of+the+Shang+Kings.&dq=These+lords+were+generally+relatives+of+the+Chou+kings,+although+in+several+instances+they+were+descendants+of+previous+rulers+of+the+territory+concerned.+We+have+already+mentioned+that+the+State+of+Sung+was+ruled+by+descendants+of+the+Shang+Kings.&hl=en&sa=X&ei=r0YJVOXWJsrisATjpYGoBg&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA
http://books.google.com/books?id=oulJAQAAIAAJ&q=*+It+has+always+been+considered+a+most+heinous+crime+by+the+Chinese+to+exterminate+the+last+descendants+of+a+family+line+and+thereby+cut+off+the+worship+of+their+ancestors.+These+ancestors,+especially+if+they+belonged+to+a+powerful+line+of+rulers,+were+sure+to+take+revenge+upon+the+perpetrators+of+the+crime.+Consequently+a+new+Dynasty+has+generally+seen+to+it+that+the+last+descendants+of+the+preceding+ruling+house+were+placed+in+a+position+where+they+were+harmless+but+able+to+keep+up+the+traditional+homage+to+their+ancestors.+The+last+Imperial+Dynasty,+even+though+they+were+Manchus,+were+sufficiently+Siniciscd+to+keep+up+the+custom.+In+1924+a+descendant+of+the+preceding+Ming+Dynasty,+adorned+with+the+rank+of+a+Marquis+(the+Marquis+of+Extended+Grace)+was&dq=*+It+has+always+been+considered+a+most+heinous+crime+by+the+Chinese+to+exterminate+the+last+descendants+of+a+family+line+and+thereby+cut+off+the+worship+of+their+ancestors.+These+ancestors,+especially+if+they+belonged+to+a+powerful+line+of+rulers,+were+sure+to+take+revenge+upon+the+perpetrators+of+the+crime.+Consequently+a+new+Dynasty+has+generally+seen+to+it+that+the+last+descendants+of+the+preceding+ruling+house+were+placed+in+a+position+where+they+were+harmless+but+able+to+keep+up+the+traditional+homage+to+their+ancestors.+The+last+Imperial+Dynasty,+even+though+they+were+Manchus,+were+sufficiently+Siniciscd+to+keep+up+the+custom.+In+1924+a+descendant+of+the+preceding+Ming+Dynasty,+adorned+with+the+rank+of+a+Marquis+(the+Marquis+of+Extended+Grace)+was&hl=en&sa=X&ei=C0cJVK-dAY3hsAT05YDACw&ved=0CB4Q6AEwAA
Title	Ancient Chinese bronzes of the Shang and Chou dynasties: an illustrated catalogue of the van Heusden collection, with a historical introduction
Ancient Chinese Bronzes of the Shang and Chou Dynasties: An Illustrated Catalogue of the Van Heusden Collection, with a Historical Introduction by Willem Van Heusden, Willem van Heusden
Author	Willem van Heusden
Publisher	Privately published, 1952
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http://books.google.com/books?id=CRArQFHGfn8C&pg=PA358&lpg=PA358&dq=Confucius+was+said+to+have+been+a+descendant+of+the+Shang+kings+through+the+of+Song&source=bl&ots=_fYwfKMAiR&sig=rhgH4nWzjWCsqBTBzcxoZqnAHI4&hl=en&sa=X&ei=yUkJVMWvL-zjsAT1koHYAg&ved=0CCkQ6AEwBTgK#v=onepage&q=Confucius%20was%20said%20to%20have%20been%20a%20descendant%20of%20the%20Shang%20kings%20through%20the%20of%20Song&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=t_fUn4ol3ucC&pg=PA224&lpg=PA224&dq=Confucius+was+said+to+have+been+a+descendant+of+the+Shang+kings+through+the+of+Song&source=bl&ots=8q3B8e2Kwz&sig=JT6FGNl1Uf9LkFxiHVQcitn42DA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=u0kJVMPXH_SZsQT-1YGwDQ&ved=0CDAQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Confucius%20was%20said%20to%20have%20been%20a%20descendant%20of%20the%20Shang%20kings%20through%20the%20of%20Song&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=f1BvUUUVRLEC&pg=PA1&dq=mencius+descendant&hl=en&sa=X&ei=t0B6VOqCHKrlsASox4GgCQ&ved=0CFAQ6AEwCTg8#v=onepage&q=mencius%20descendant&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=Do2jYNu7PoEC&pg=PA1&dq=mencius+descendant&hl=en&sa=X&ei=60F6VO7rNLSQsQTH-4GgDw&ved=0CEwQ6AEwCDhG#v=onepage&q=mencius%20descendant&f=false
Rajmaan (talk) 05:15, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
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