Talk:Tobi Vail

message: Maybe elaborate on relationship with Kurt? It apparently affected him deeply.
-Am I the only one who thinks it's inappropriate to have such a huge section about Kurt Cobain in Tobi's article when she just gets a blurb in his? Especially considering it apparently affected him more than her, I think a good amount of that content belongs on his page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.229.125.153 (talk) 22:28, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
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message: I can't find any confirmation Tobi Vail coined the term "riot grrrl." The Riot Grrrl article says that the term was invented by Mark Anderson: 
:Uses and meanings of the term 'Riot Grrrl' developed slowly over time, but its etymological origins can be traced to the actual Mount Pleasant race riots in spring 1991. Writing in Dance of Days: Two Decades of Punk in the Nation's Capital, Mark Andersen reports that early Bratmobile member Jen Smith (later of Rastro! and The Quails), reacted to the violence by prophetically writing in a letter to Allison Wolfe: "This summer's going to be a girl riot."  Other reports say she wrote, "We need to start a girl riot."  Soon afterwards, Wolfe and Molly Neuman collaborated with Kathleen Hanna and Tobi Vail to create a new zine and called it Riot Grrrl, combining the "riot" with an oft-used phrase that first appeared in Vail's fanzine Jigsaw: "angry grrls".
Who coined this term? Anyhow, the fact confirmation should stand in the article until this is settled. Griot 18:38, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Tobi did? But the quote from the Riot Grrrl article seems to indicate that Jen along with some others did. She wrote a letter to Allison saying, "This summer's going to be a girl riot" or "We need to start a girl riot." Anyhow, Allison, Molly, and Kathleen, as well as Tobi -- if the Riot Grrrl article is to be believed -- coined the term together for their 'zine. I just don't think it's fair to credit Tobi without crediting Jen, Allison, Molly, and Kathleen as well. It's just not fair! Griot 19:46, 20 August 2007 (UTC)

text: But what about Jen, Allison, Molly, and Kathleen? C'mon, they were part of it! And I really think you should go to the Riot Grrrl article and explain they name over there (I'd do it but I don't know this subject as well as you). I mean, like, don't you think all the people who minted this coin should get their names on it? Griot 22:12, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Coined Term "Riot Grrrl"?

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