Talk:Baguio (disambiguation)

message: This entry is incorrect. The name 'bagyo' is not spelled Baguio. And it is not based on the name of the city Baguio. Baguio is based on the plant that grew on the Benguet plateau called bagiw. Bagyo as a word has been in use even before Baguio was ever used.
---I don't think the entry is incorrect. Can you cite sources that support your second sentence above? I for one have seen the English spelling of "baguio" in references and textbooks rather than the Filipino spelling of "bagyo". I still have to see scholarly evidence for the usage of the bagyo spelling in English language. Also, citations are needed with your third sentence above. Yea I agree with your last two sentences. I have to adhere that the "baguio" entry must refer to the typhoon not to the city. We have Baguio City for that.--- Jordz 19:06, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

message: The American Meteorological Society Thank you seav, for the suggestion.--Jondel 04:04, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Jondel, this is horribly incorrect as I have pointed out to Jordz in the first instances of the 'baguio' entry. The city, Baguio, was named by the Americans in the late 1800s to the marsh plant that grew in the natural lagoon (now Burnham Park), the plant was called by the locals (the Ibalois) as 'bagiw' (there are many spellings pertaining to this plant but they are all phonetically similar, it is the Ibaloi word for 'moss'). The city was chartered in 1909, before the AMS citation of 1911. The AMS term is in contradiction to the Spanish (or French) use of the word as cited by Jordz since this was before the founding of the city. The Baguio name is akin to the naming of Manila from "may nilad'. Again, even before the founding of the city, Filipinos have used 'bagyo', the AMS may have incorrectly derived it from the city since they sounded similar. --Haldamir 07:28, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

text: BTW: the American Metereological Society's Glossary of Metereology was only first published in the 1960s. --Haldamir 07:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also, AMS is a source of meteorology, not the origin of words. --Howard the Duck 08:55, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [http://amsglossary.allenpress.com/glossary/browse?s=b&p=4 From AMS]

message: # DOST - S&T Media Service: "Name A Bagyo Contest"
# A Language of the Philippines: Tagalog-English Dictionary (Hippocrene Books) - English entry for 'bagyo' is storm
# The Apocalyptic Riders - Typhoons in the Philippines - Wolfgang Bethgé 2003
# Tagalog Dictionary entry for 'bagyo'
Obviously, English sites and books use 'bagyo' freely, and coincidentally no 'baguio'. I'm now working to get an official statement from the PAGASA Baguio Bureau. Will upload scanned copy as soon as I get it. --Haldamir 08:19, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've sent an e-mail to a professor of DOST-PAGASA. --Jondel 08:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

text: The official statement would be very good, Haldamir, I think we can let them be the ones to decide.--Jondel 08:39, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, Baguio and Bagyo sounds identical. Now if another Philippine language spells bagyo as baguio, then I'm with baguio as a translation for tropical cyclone staying on the disambig page. If there is no case of any other Philippine language that spells bagyo as baguio then we should stick with bagyo. (Another case: I think we should update the Typhoons in the Philippines article). --Howard the Duck 00:18, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a common English word and there is a standard English term for the exact same thing. Almost nobody would search the term 'baguio' when looking for tropical cyclones (even in the contect of the Philippines) in an English language encyclopedia. Even if another Philippine language spells it that way (doubtful) it is still not an English term for this concept. Polaron | Talk 00:25, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  From DOST / PAGASA and external links

message: To other editors please feel free to place your vote. Don't remove this poll. I will be checking this poll once in a while and making changes based on the vote majority of these polls.--Jondel 08:29, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: POLL

message: Baguio not Bagyo, should be the English word, if ever, when referring to cyclones in the Philippines.
*Neutral---Jondel 08:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Word to be used in English articles

message: 'Baguio' is the de facto English word, and used much more than 'Bagyo' when referring to cyclones in the Philippines. Please mention if you feel both are used.
*Yes--Jondel 08:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Word in actual use in English articles

message: Baguio and Bagyo should both be mentioned in the disambiguity page
*Support---Jondel 08:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mention both

message: * Support. --Howard the Duck 09:25, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mention only bagyo when referring to tropical cyclones

message: * Baguio City
** Support. --Howard the Duck 00:29, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Where should [[Baguio]] redirect?

message: * Baguio City
* Baguio (disambiguation)
* Tropical cyclone
** Support. --Howard the Duck 00:29, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Where should [[bagyo]] redirect?

message: If and when this article is created (he is a PBA player), I guess he merits mention in the disambig page too. But as of now, lets leave him out. --Howard the Duck 08:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see any harm if he is mentioned. He is notable isn't he? --Jondel 08:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, he's a pro player, but he doesn't have an article yet, so I'd say lets him leave him out for the meantime. After all, a user would not get to know anything with a red link. But that's just my opinion. It wouldn't hurt if he's mentioned, anyway. --Howard the Duck 08:36, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

text: In many disambiguity pages there are many people mentioned without an article. Important enough tobriefly mention but no one wants to put the time to create the article like articles of names, etc.--Jondel 08:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, then I guess there'll be no harm done. :) --Howard the Duck 09:00, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes!--Jondel 09:23, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cyrus Baguio 

message: I have checked < http://baguiomidlandcourier.com.ph >.
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