Talk:Flight control surfaces

message: - *Controls - Selkirk Collage Aviation Intranet: Notes on a wide range of aviation subjects. 
This link - now removed by another user, is actually part of an intranet, not the internet, so it won't be visible to anyone outside the intranet. Peter Manchester 21:06, 18 Nov 2003 (UTC)
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message: Hi everyone, Adverse yaw is not a secondary effect of the ailerons. It is a primary effect. The secondary is a yaw in the same direction as the bank. Example: You bank left and at first the nose travels right and up (part of the primary effects of the aileron) but then the windvane effect of the fin makes the nose go left-down (secondary). This is not so pronunciated in UL:s and other airplanes with relatively short wingspan but it is a matter of life and death to a glider pilot. /Nick the glider instructor :)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.65.226.232 (talk) 07:08, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the (hidden) assumption for all these effects is an intial attitude of straight and level flight at constant speed and altitude.  The goal was to give the uninformed reader an introduction to the subject.  An instructional treatise for student pilots needs to cover all situations and variables in detail.  That was purposefully outside my scope for this article.  Skeetch
A sensible approach, and one of the reasons I added the disclaimer a the start. I think we can get the basics across without having to confuse turning with yawing, which will only confuse people who actually fly. I've given this a go - what do you think? DJ Clayworth 14:18, 20 Nov 2003 (UTC)

text: I have the same problem with this section. Having owned a Partenavia P68 (a light twin) I know it had a "trimming tail plane" as it is described in this article although I seem to remember it was called a stabilator. The photograph of the Airbus 319 appears to show a fixed horizontal stabilizer with an elevator. This site provides a description of these and even goes into some detail on V tails (which are briefly mentioned in the Wikipedia article) and canards (which don't get a mention in the article). --CloudSurfer 05:13, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Yaw

message: On august 4, 2005, user:Trevor MacInnis proposed that this article be merged with airplane flight mechanics. 
I oppose as I feel that this is a significantly detailed topic to warrant its own article. ericg ✈ 05:22, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest that a merger with Flight dynamics would make more sense as it is currently a stub and most of its content is covered here already. Lucas42 14:29, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
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message: je hebt ook nog onderscheid tussen primaire en secundaire flight controls  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.90.216.167 (talk) 20:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to Bing, this seems to be Dutch for "You've also got distinction between primary and secondary flight controls". —BarrelProof (talk) 16:58, 3 February 2016 (UTC)

text: Which seems to mean something like "Aren't thrust reversers considered secondary flight controls?" —BarrelProof (talk) 16:58, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commentary in Dutch and Greek (to me) 

message: I would suggest that the article mention that the wright brothers invented control surfaces, at it was the basis of the patent application.  gliders before the wright's were controled by body movement.  Also the wrights used warping of flexible structures. Glen Curtis tried to skirt the patent by using hindged panels.  Saltysailor (talk) 07:43, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Invention of control surfaces 

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