Talk:Orange Catholic Bible

message: Why do you keep reverting from the correct spelling of the word Bahá'í.  There are accent's and an aposrophe in the correct spelling.  Also the correct name of the religion is Bahá'í Faith. -- Jeff3000 03:54, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I understand why the changes to Bahais, since that's the way it was in the book, but just because it was spelled incorrectly in the book, doesn't mean it has to be spelled incorrectly here. -- Jeff3000 04:07, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bahá'í 

message: I've re-deleted the list of identifications. These section said themselves, that they are speculative and non-canonical. If there is a part which can be saved, please state explicit references within the novels. --Pjacobi 12:05, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No original research please 

message: The chapter references that are given are ones taken from the Dune series, not ones referring back to where the source materials for the OCB came from.  Adding references back to the original source material would therefore be confusing.  If one wanted to make reference back to the original source material, one should make it clear that the chapter and verse references are those of the Hebrew Bible/New Testament/Qur’an/etc. and not those of the OCB.
I can see your point. It is useful however to point to the source material of quotes where possible, things like "Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live" are taken directly from Exodus.
Perhaps simply a (derived from: (book/verse) format would be acceptable?
Lostsocks 17:46, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Why no original chapter references

message: Is an unofficial (e.g., non-author) blog acceptable as an external link?
*Commentary on the Orange Catholic Bible
Per item #11 of Wikipedia:External links#Links normally to be avoided:
:11. Links to blogs and personal webpages, except those written by a recognized authority.
(I marked removal of this from the article as a minor edit by mistake.) --SandChigger 17:58, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blog link? 

message: I removed the original links to Buddhism and (Sunni) Islam from this word a while back because
#I think this sort of double link from parts of a single word is confusing, and
#Buddislam is a fictional religion just like Mahayana Christianity and Zensunni Catholicism (which I also don't think should have separate links to their foundational components)
Is there an article on Dune religions? If not, why don't we create one and link these terms in Dune articles to it? Links to the real/original religions can go from there.
What think ye? --SandChigger 06:39, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buddislamic 

message: Listing the Decalogue as a reference for the "Thou shalt not make a machine..." injunction seems to be another example of the extreme dimness that seems to be seeping in around here. Any reason to keep it? --SandChigger (talk) 08:14, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thou shalt not's? 

message: Could there be an explanation ?Hektor (talk) 22:40, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I seem to recall there was an interview with Herbert where he indicated "orange" comes from the "orange-men", that is Irish protestants.  That traces the "orange" back to the Dutch aristocratic House of Orange.  The idea behind "Orange-Catholic" then was to evoke a stong contradiction along the lines of "Protestant-Catholic" but more in the Irish vein where they continue to kill each other.  This goes with all of his other syncretic amalgams of disparate religions such as "buddislam" and so forth.Ekwos (talk) 18:58, 10 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Question: how should this be translated into another language? Should 'Orange' be untranslated (because it's a family name) or translated (as a color)? Is there any official position from Frank Herbert concerning Dune in other languages?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.157.231.232 (talk) 16:49, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Why Orange

message: It isn't a real book, so the article shouldn't be written like it is.  It is a literary device that exists in 3 basic sets of sources:  (1) the original Dune series, (2) the new Dune books, (3) the Dune encyclopedia.  These different takes on the OCB should be laid out and considered separately instead of integrating them to make some sort of overall OCB article like they are really talking about the same thing.  I've made structural changes in the article in that direction.Ekwos (talk) 19:39, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Really, I feel that this article's information should be integrated into the articles on the respective novels and the rest discarded as irrelevant to a real-world encyclopedia. However, for the moment, I've just re-corrected the reference to a gift being a blessing of the "giver" to being the blessing of the "river", which is how it appears in Dune. It looks like that's gone back and forth at least a couple times, so I thought it would be worth mentioning here before it gets changed again. 71.32.169.136 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 11:31, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The OCB is not a real book

message: Hi, I'm new to this, so forgive any breaches in protocol. Growing up in a very vibrant suburb of Wynberg, Cape Town, South Africa, we had many Muslim 'people of colour' living among us (mostly white folk), even during the apartheid era. I've heard something very similar to the above quote a number of times: "The gift honours the giver", and was wondering if there was anyone out there who might know of a similar quotation and whether it comes from the Quran, or some other Arabic source document or whether it's simply a saying that got passed down through the generations. I no longer live in the area, and so my contact with my Muslim brethren is much curtailed, but this has revived an interest in looking further into the matter. Thank you. Galen777 (talk) 13:02, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: A little of googling seems to show that the saying you're talking about is most probably "Accepting the gift honours the giver",  but I haven't found any real references for it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.66.209.206 (talk) 22:41, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The gift is the blessing of the giver"  

message: The non-canon Dune Encyclopedia (1984) by Willis E. McNelly should be removed as non-canon. There are errors that are not consistent with the book. Much of the Bible was replaced due to unpopularity in the vast length of the Bible, and the near destruction of the human race due to events leading up to the Butlerian Jihad. Thou shalt not disfigure the soul is a reference to Serena Butler, not the OCB. Ncsr11 (talk) 22:46, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  According to the non-canon Dune Encyclopedia (1984) by Willis E. McNelly 

message: I removed this section of the article about the etymology of the name. It's not sourced and in contradiction with the remainder of the article (and scholar sources) giving bouddhism as source for the orange adjective. --Dereckson (talk) 14:27, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed section of the origin of the name