Talk:Stand (R.E.M. song)

message: *I remember when I was much younger reading in a magazine somewhere that Michael Stipe loved this song, and called it a "stunning rock song" and that it was only released as a single because the label thought it would be a success.  Unfortunately, "somewhere" is not a reliable source, so I want to see if I'm remembering correctly or not. JuJube 07:20, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Michael Stipe hates this song? 

message: :Image:Rems.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
Please go to the image description page and edit it to include a fair use rationale. Using one of the templates at Wikipedia:Fair use rationale guideline is an easy way to insure that your image is in compliance with Wikipedia policy, but remember that you must complete the template. Do not simply insert a blank template on an image page.
If there is  other fair use media, consider checking that you have specified the fair use rationale on the other images used on this page.  Note that any fair use images lacking such an explanation can be deleted one week after being tagged, as described on criteria for speedy deletion. If you have any questions please ask them at the Media copyright questions page. Thank you.
BetacommandBot (talk) 07:01, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Rems.jpg

message: I let someone else edit the article. I just noticed that nobody seem to have picked up that the "Weird Al" Yankovic has made a parody of Stand. It is called Spam and is on his album UHF.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Krokodilien71 (talk • contribs) 04:54, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Parodies usually fall under WP:COVERSONG as the song is, in many ways, a cover of the original. COVERSONG says, in essence, that Wikipedia usually does not include cover versions unless the version would be notable enough for a standalone article, absent the notability of the original. So, the question would be whether or not "Spam" meets the requirements under WP:NSONG. "Most songs are not notable." Notable songs are the subject of substantial coverage in independent reliable sources. I don't see that level of coverage for "Spam". (FWIW, Spam (song) redirects to UHF – Original Motion Picture Soundtrack and Other Stuff#Parodies and polka.) - SummerPhDv2.0 15:38, 11 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Weird Al" has made a parody of Stand 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Stand (R.E.M. song). Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20170907032648/http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/rpm/028020-119.01-e.php?brws_s=1&file_num=nlc008388.6684&type=1&interval=24&PHPSESSID=mhe12pta2k83e08udtq66ot062 to http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/rpm/028020-119.01-e.php?brws_s=1&file_num=nlc008388.6684&type=1&interval=24&PHPSESSID=mhe12pta2k83e08udtq66ot062
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 03:12, 17 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I'd've Never Suspected This Was Parody... And, WHY?! 
Epigram: "'If there's no meaning in it,' said the King, 'that saves a world of trouble, you know, as we needn't try to find any.'" ("Alice In Wonderland.")
For years, off and on, I've wondered about the meaning of the lyrics to the song, "Stand," by R.E.M.
And now, in the article on "Stand (R.E.M. Song)," I read:
"'Stand' is a song by the American alternative rock band R.E.M., released... in 1989... The song is meant to be a self-aware "tongue-in-cheek" 60s-esque Bubblegum Pop ditty, meant to resemble the music of The Banana Splits, The Archies and The Monkees."
So, basically, this is essentially a nonsense song, written in parody of the "Bubblegum" genre -- something I would NEVER have suspected!
And after all, why would I? The article on "Bubblegum Pop" says:
"Bubblegum's classic period ran from 1967 to 1972. A second wave of bubblegum began two years later and ran until 1977 when disco took over."
So my most basic question here, in venting my frustration and disgruntlement, has to be: "What, in God's name, would prompt R.E.M. to parody a style of music that had already been over and done with for TWELVE YEARS!? How could they expect anyone to ever divine their meaning?" Sheesh...!
Anyone have any thoughts on this (grumble, mumble, frotz)...? The Grand Rascal (talk) 14:47, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: This article talk page is for discussing improvements to the article, not for general discussion of the article's topic. - SummerPhDv2.0 19:21, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Off-topic chat