Talk:Samora Machel

message: Shouldn't this be mentioned on the article -- The Death of Samora Machel - South Africa? --190.48.127.101 (talk) 17:24, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: [[South African Special Forces Brigade|South African Special Forces]] involvement in the plot

message: Hi people
i am a mozambican and per chance i came to this dialogue about our beloved lider. But it was not always like this, for me.
I have the privileg to be one among many that had the chance to know him personnally. Being a youngster, innocent and blind over political matters, i ( we, most of upper the class in the mocambican society ) ,didnt like him.
Effects of colonial influence, he was just an nurse, some even say he was just an simple nurses helper, never mind! Time passed by, ione grows and lives in "exile" - lovely Europe...and then one learns that the only thing that matters in this World,is money. No democracy....it is just money!....and therefore i learned to love Samora Moisés Machel, because he loved his people,he really loved us!
To discuss who killed him or not is a never ending story, we would know it if the ones who did it repent, otherwise...
I went through all suppossitions ( allow me to call it so and apologise my english, it is my best!- hope just to make myself understandable )and i agree with all of you to a certain point. for example,one one says that there is no logic in believing the SA forces did kill him because they had him as a partner to talk and some insiders were at the time aware of the sensible situation....i fully agree with that. Samora was a loyal person,with is vision and principles that made him the best "enemy"- at the end danger comes only from those you believe to be your friends!
When one says that that they did it, i also agree; because there might had been inside the "SA team" enough people that would never want to accept a change....equal rights.
I dont want to enter exaustive analises. At my point of view, Samora was killed by a group of people that still around scoring their goals...it was possible because on mocambican side there was support! Xidaqua 13:15, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WP is not censored.  However kindly note that this is not a discussion forum - the purpose of this page is exclusively to discuss improvements to the article. I also take this opportunity to refer you to WP's policy on verifiability.  Thank you. Socrates2008 (Talk) 08:36, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  samora machel 

message: Toward the end of the section on Machel's change of attitude toward the Portuguese comes a sentence that begins with the clause, "The most likely explanation is ...."
And there are no shrill cries, anguished screams, etc. about POV, original research, or all those other terrible things that go bump in the night??  Why not?? 
Terry J. Carter (talk) 19:50, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Most LIkely Explanation"  ??? 

message: I have some doubts about the number of 30,000 deaths in the re-education camps. As a source for this number, the article refers to an article by Geoff Hill in the South-African newspaper The Star, which I don't have access to. I've looked at a number of sources in Portuguese, including some rather strong anti-Frelimo ones, and I couldn't find a number of deaths there. I have the feeling that if the death toll were this high, it would be documented by a number of independent sources. I'd like to see a better source for this number. LeRoc (talk) 18:56, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: (For further information: the diff where this statement was added is here.) LeRoc (talk) 19:20, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Camp deaths