Talk:Seventh chord

message: Furrykef I have to disagree that the names and abbreviations/symbols you added are "more typical". They may be common, and some of them may be the most common, but a dominant seventh/major minor seventh is most commonly X7, not XMm7. Of course we may include both options, but I thought I would "talk" as you removed some. Hyacinth 04:20, 14 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: More typical

message: The article uses the term "diatonic", but without adequate explanation. This term, along with "chromatic", is the cause of serious uncertainties at several other Wikipedia articles, and in the broader literature. Some of us thought that both terms needed special coverage, so we started up a new article: Diatonic and chromatic. Why not have a look, and join the discussion? Be ready to have comfortable assumptions challenged!
– Noetica♬♩ Talk 01:36, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Diatonic and chromatic

message: :"A well-known example of the harmonic seventh chord is the ending of the modern addition to the song "Happy Birthday to You", with the words "and many more!" The harmony on the word "more" is typically sung as a harmonic seventh chord (Mathieu, pg. 126)."
I've never heard of this supposedly "well-known" modern addition, and I'm pretty sure the tune I know doesn't have any seventh chords in it. Does everyone else know what this is talking about? If it's just me, and the rest of the world knows it, then fine... Matt 01:42, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's something some people throw in at the end (and less likely to embarrass an older person than "Are ya one, are ya two, are ya three..."). I'm not sure you could say for certain what the harmony should be, though, because IME most large group tend to turn Happy Birthday into a polytonal, dissonant mess anyway. Everybody pick a key and start singing! — Gwalla | Talk 22:23, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Happy Birthday to You" 

message: I have added some audio examples to the article. Hyacinth (talk) 07:17, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested audio

message: "Dominant seventh" is correctly used in reference to the V7 chord. A major-minor seventh chord may be built using accidentals on other scale degrees, but can only occur naturally when built on the dominant. Confusion arises when we refer to non-dominant functioning chords in the same manner "Cdom7". "Dominant" is not referring to the major-minor structure, but to the fact that the chord is acting in a dominant function and most often as the dominant of the key (so a Cdom7 implies a tonic of F). I would recommend specifying this in the introduction. The information is otherwise correct; in fact anytime you encounter an unspecified seventh chord, major-minor is understood because it is the most commonly used in western classical tradition. Also, only the first 5 types of seventh chords listed in your chart would be considered common in western tradition. 
"A dominant seventh chord is a chord built upon the dominant of a major diatonic scale, containing a dominant (major) triad and an additional minor seventh (for example G-B-D-F in C major). It is typically denoted G7."   
"The chord is often called the dominant 7th because it is built on the dominant. By this term we are referring both to the type of chord and to the function of a chord in a harmonic context. As a diatonic chord in a major key, the 7th can only be found in this position. All other diatonic 7th chords will be other kinds of 7ths."  
http://music-theory.ascensionsounds.com/harmony-undertanding-seventh-chords/|work=Learning and Loving Music Theory|accessdate=7/20/2013
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dominant_%28music%29|work=Wikipedia|accessdate=7/21/2013
http://www.torvund.net/guitar/chords/index.php?page=7th
Jlope014 (talk) 00:30, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Incorrect definition

message: The diagram below the 1st paragraph in the article contains quoted text that reads: "A ranking by frequency of the seventh chords in major would be approximately that shown."[1].
I think 'C ' is missing just before the word 'major'.  Maybe a nit, but the sentence doesn't make sense without it.  Might even be clearer by inserting 'the key of C ' before 'major'.
I didn't change the article, because the text is apparently quoted verbatim from the 3rd addition of footnoted publication [1]:  Kostka; Payne (1995). Tonal Harmony (3rd ed.). p. 225. ISBN 0-07-300056-6.  I'm not sure if this was an oversight in the 3rd edition of Tonal Harmony (which currently has an 8th edition), or a cut'n'paste booboo when porting it to the article.Wikieveryman123 (talk) 22:51, 23 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quote in frequency-of-use diagram needs a 'C' ?