Talk:Province of Posen

message: The population table for Prussia is great, but shouldn't it be in the Prussia article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwood (talk • contribs) 19:07, 21 February 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely.  I also think it's almost certainly wrong.  I can't believe that there were only a few thousand people in Posen and West Prussia who did not speak German.   john 19:22, 21 Feb 2004 (UTC)

text: Perhaps.  Certainly it is difficult to understand how there could be more non-German speakers in the Rhineland than in Posen.  I'd add that a fairly substantial of Poznanian peasants probably had no education at all, and many will have been educated before 1863, when education would likely still have been in Polish. john 01:52, 22 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  On the population table 

message: Data for year 1819 (Poles - 77.0% of the population; Germans - 17.5%; Jews - 5.5%) is from Dr. Georg Hassel, "Statistischer Umriß der sämmtlichen europäischen und der vornehmsten außereuropäischen Staaten, in Hinsicht ihrer Entwickelung, Größe, Volksmenge, Finanz- und Militärverfassung, tabellarisch dargestellt", Erster Heft, "Welcher die beiden großen Mächte Österreich und Preußen und den Deutschen Staatenbund darstellt", Verlag des Geographischen Instituts Weimar, page 43. 
Can someone please provide a source reference for 1861 ethnic figures? Currently they are unsourced. Peter558 (talk) 14:30, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added ethnic or national structure ("Nationalverschiedenheit" in German) for year 1819 

message: (moved from page to Talk) (see Freiherr vom Stein), I feel this is more appropriate in an article about feudalism, and perhaps we should see if one exists and link into it or create one. I'm taking your word about the 1810 date, I was thinking that serfdom was removed in stages by decree, and am pretty confidant that it was not stringently enforced for decades, allowing the old practices to continue in some form on many estates until the late 1800s. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwood (talk • contribs) 16:55, 25 April 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: After looking at the link, I'm going to put it back in pending more research. The vom Stein article has a lot of useful detail, but it is buried and needs to be added to a separate article about German and Polish feudalism. I'm particularily interested on how the Prussian laws affected Posen, since the law changed when Napoleon had removed Posen from Prussia. I seem to remember that the laws were different from Prussia proper and the annexed provinces. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bwood (talk • contribs) 17:03, 25 April 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  On feudalism 

message: The article is being conformed to the project template of Wikipedia:WikiProject Historical States Bwood 03:07, 1 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Historical States 

message: Western Posen at around this time would have been primarily German -- Greater Poland only begins with the eastern portions, regardless of what Cold War nationalist Polish propaganda says.
Regardless, I rewrote the section that pertains to ownership of it thruought history -- it is now written more clearly. Ameise -- chat 08:43, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meh. 

message: Prussian censuses classified German speaking Jewish minority as German speakers! Germans were a clear majority only on the westernmost (West of the Warta and Obra rivers) and northernmost fringes - around the Notec (Netze) river. 
Anyway, the Poznan Voivodship, which corresponded almost exactly to Province Posen, had 90% Poles and only 7% Germans. Why in Province Posen German speakers constituted a minority of 38%. Even if some were excluded in Grenzmark Posen-Westpreussen, where did most of them go??? They were simply re-classified as Jewish minority. After Holocaust and WW II expulsions of Germans, the number of German speakers fell to less than 1% —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.46.111 (talk) 12:33, 15 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  German-speaking Jews... Germans??? 

message: The link to Settlers is incorrect, because it redirects to Settler (disambiguation). What the author wanted to say? I bet that many Germans came to Poland before the partition and many of them became Poles. Later some Germans came under Prussians.Xx236 10:39, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  the first Germans coming as settlers 

message: The Jews obtained many rights in Prussia and Germanized (they used to talk German dialect before, the Yddish). There were many of them. Some of them emigrated from Prussia, some moved to Germany after 1918.Xx236 10:43, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Germanized Jews 

message: It's the same area and population as in the Grand Duchy of Posen. Wouldn't it be better to start with this information instead of craddle?Xx236 10:46, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Data in Grand Duchy entry has now been changed to a pre-1848 value. - 52 Pickup 10:54, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grand Duchy of Posen 

message: I removed one map with several innacuracies, the current German map is more precise then even the map put here.--Molobo (talk) 03:39, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maps 

message: Seems like copy of old Brittanica or Catholic Encyclopedia. Needs a serious re-write--Molobo (talk) 00:52, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor article 

message: Poles voted against joining the German Confederation. The Frankfurt Parliament ignored this, led by demands to pursue German nationalism in its politics.--Molobo (talk) 01:15, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor corrections 

message: Is it correct to say that Province of Posen roughly corresponded to the region of Greater Poland / Wielkopolska? I find it strange that the current article doesn't mention Greater Poland / Wielkpolska at all. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  16:48, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "Is it correct to say that Province of Posen roughly corresponded to the region of Greater Poland?" That is correct and should be mentioned. I introduced it into the text (2nd para, 1st sentence). Skäpperöd (talk) 04:47, 22 June 2009 (UTC)

text: Fine with me, when I introduced "later province" I thought of the current voivodeship bearing this name and its |historic predecessor. Skäpperöd (talk) 14:30, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greater Poland / Wielkpolska 

message: What exactly is the criteria to be listed here? Is it originating from the Province or being famous for work within it? I don't doubt that the people listed did important things, however, it seems rather odd to have a (relatively over sized) list of people whose entries are little more than a sentence and one reference. I suppose if the criteria is indeed restricted to work within the area itself, the list would suffice. However, if it can include people originating from there, why are there no mentions of Marian Rejewski, Mieczysław Garsztka, Kurt Tank, or Paul von Hindenburg? Perhaps a separate list would be beneficial for listing everyone while the article itself should try to cover those with a bit more notability?
MagicBear (talk) 22:24, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable People? 

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