Talk:Identity document forgery

message: As a solution to the problem raised in the vfd of SuperDude115's "Phony Passport" (see Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Phony passport, I created identity document forgery (which fits neatly with the naming convention of having articles on various kinds of  forgery and an identity document article), and added and cleaned up the relevant information from this page, and from the conterminously created (and suspiciously similar) Fake ID (which is now a redirect). -- BD2412 thimk 14:59, 2005 May 2 (UTC)
Moved this from the article:
Edit: Sept 28th, 2005. 
::While it's true that the forgery of identity documents in print has become easier, the Federal Government has become ever more ingenious in finding digital methods of entrapment and foiling forgers' methods. The PC has, as stated before, revolutionized the process by which forgers print up new, false documents. However, it is infinitely easier for the police, or any other arm of the law to verify the authenticity of these documents. To form a new identity for oneself, one must start from the very beginning - Social Security number, new forms of secondary Identification, etc. So yes, printing yourself up a new ID to get into the local bar and grill has gotten a bit easier, but most places in metropolitan areas are wary of the new techniques, and use scanners to verify the ID. So be ware. 
::--All of this info is based on research conducted for a screenplay. It is, to the best of my knowledge, correct. --
::--b
Rayray 15:44, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Phony Passport VFD

message: Please desist putting commercial links on this site. Phrases like "market is dominated by" are clearly NPOV and commercial links are not useful to this encyclopedia.
-- Actually, market dominance is absolutely nothing to do with opinion, and in actuality, is fact based on relative sales figures. You are therefore, completely wrong and that statement is not based upon a biased POV, and is infact useful to this encylopedia. However, unless sales figures can be offered, the fact should be removed from the article (though for reasons unrelated to your incorrect interpretation of what market dominance is). - Ryan1711  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.149.5.167 (talk) 20:39, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia is not an advertising repository 

message: This article reads like the Jolly Roger Cookbook -a largely inaccurate guide on how to fake an ID. I assume that writing an accurate guide to creating a fake ID would be frowned upon - so what does that leave as an article that couldn't be place in an article about IDs, as opposed to ID forgery?  --Captain Idiot 06:51, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anarchist's Cookbook 

message: This article needs a complete rewrite, for the following reasons, among others:
# Encyclopedia articles are not how-to guides: they exist to inform, not instruct
# Excessive focus on just one sub-field of IDs
# What about the history of identity document forgery? (ancient credentials, World War II...)
# Mention biometrics, modern anti-forgery techniques, cryptoprocessors...
# Mention the trade-off between anti-forgery measures and subornation within the ID issuing process
-- The Anome 07:39, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite needed 

message: this is way too foccused on how fake ids are frowned upon in society...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.68.187.189 (talk) 12:00, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  no