Talk:American Dragon: Jake Long

message: I'm not entirley sure that's a spoiler. If you ask me, it was blindingly obvious from the first time she appears. --Veemonkamiya 06:07, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, I have fixed it. --Theo  (Talk) 09:22, 23 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huntsgirl 

message: Today I reverted the following changes:
#A general description of a centaur.  I think that the article should only describe how centaurs in this series differ from classical centaurs.
#Deletion of the details about the Huntsclan and the Huntsman.  These are fundamental to the series.
#A statement that seers are also called "oricalls". I imagine that this is a mis-spelling of "oracles" and even so, I fail to see the relevance of this general point.
#: --Theo  (Talk) 16:20, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The changes I made I thought were somewhat reasonable. Here's my opinion:
#You're right on this one. I've never seen a centaur on the show and assumed that the definition was identical to that of a "classic" centaur.
#The deletion of the Huntsclan was nessisiary. You listed them as magical creatures, but they are not, they are normal (yet incredably trained) people with extreme gadgets. If you wanted to mention th Huntsclan, do it someplace else ni this artical.
#Sorry for the misspelling of "oracles," but they are nto refered to as seers on the show, so mentioning that they are also called seers is the piontless thing. --Wack'd About Wiki 17:30, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Reversion

message: I do not think it appropriate to compare the Prof. with Mr. Crocker.  Although they are both teachers in animated series this does not make the comparison informative.  I suggest that this comparison be removed. --Theo  (Talk) 17:19, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It is, actually, quite appropreate. The Professor is overly obsessed with descovering that Jake is a dragon, and Mr. Crocker is overly obsessed with descovering Timmy has fairies. Seriously, how much do you actually watch the show, or even bother to see if what you post is true? I'm a Disney Channel/Cartoon Network/Nickelodeon 'expert'. Leave the editing of this page to me, because I know lots about this show.
*PS: Sorry if anything I said offended you. --Wack'd About Wiki 17:26, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Professor Rotwood

message: Rose's other name is Thorn, but the Huntsmaster always calls her Huntsgirl. And the Huntsgirl was never called Thorn by anyone except by Jake in the episode The hunted. Khang 15:44, 23 March 2006
:The quote seems to just be an allegory of her personalty, not an actually name. The quote is:
::"Maybe your a little rough around the edges, but every thorn has got to have a rose"
:She was only surprised when he mentioned her real name, and if Thorn was a secondary name she would be also surprise that he knew her secondary name or not surprised due to the fact that "thorn" and "rose" is closely related.  Unless mentioned elsewhere, I do not feel that this needs to be added  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.187.147.202 (talk) 11:02, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thorn 

message: I have changed the citation of the reference to make it clear which page was the original reference and the date of retrieval.  This allows a researcher to find the original reference if, say, archive.org vanishes.—Theo  (Talk) 20:59, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference to TV Tome

message: Many audiences had mixed opinions about Jake's personality: an Asian-american who 'excessively' speaks in street slang. Most liked it or were indifferent, while others despised it for being 'too irritating'. There is no doubt that Jake's personality is a homage to the second and third-generation immigrants who willingly embraced American culture (and adapted to its varying accents). This may also explain why Jake transforms into a western-style dragon instead of an eastern-style Lung like Lao Shi. 
Actually I think maybe Grandpa moved to NY at one point and the rest of the family desended from China but were born in the US. Or something like that. --Wack'd About Wiki 21:21, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quote 

message: I added the cleanup tag for three basic reasons:
# The section structure doesn't seem to be very organized. Season, character, and other information are somewhat mixed together. It's a bit hard to read for a someone not familar with the show.
# The season information specifically is confusing, as there appear to be 2-1/2 seasons, with no explanation of why, and a single link for Season 2 that goes nowhere.
# The source text looks like a C program. It really needs some spacing to make it easier to edit.
I ask that involved editors tackle these issues when they get a chance. Thank you. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 10:33, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I feel that it should stay in alphabetical order. Putting it in a random order only confuses the reader to find what they're looking for.TrackFan 22:21, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I'll do that for magical creatures. As for the Episode List, I'll have to decide whether to add it to another page or not. TrackFan 19:39, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: I can't seam to think of anything he's done that qualifies as "evil". I think that part of his description should be changed.
Yes, that bit of information should definetely be changed, Rotwood is not an evil character, although he can be technically be called an antagonist since he sometimes creates problems (although not always intentionally) for Jake, the protagonist. Unknown Dragon 20:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In Magic Enemy #1, it's been said that Jake makes it appear like Rotwood is magical world's #1 enemy, but I don't think he's villainous. He's almost close to being non-threatening with his crackpot theories and such. TrackFan 22:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rotwood Evil?

message: Why was my information about Dragon Training deleted?! That was useful info telling about American Dragon: Jake Long! Unknown Dragon 20:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Dragon Training part is useful and I regret removing it, but the Dragon Training Secrets aren't necessary. They're just hilarious little tips that aren't to be taken seriously. TrackFan 21:11, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dragon Training

message: The whole Trivia Section, and the Goofs section. Can anybody tell me how they help the casual reader understand the article better? Abby724 18:15, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's used to help the reader know more about the show. Some Trivia could be removed as it barely has to do with the show.TrackFan 19:48, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the trivia section completely. It is not needed and would have been eventually deleted. TrackFan 17:32, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I have some sections up for removal... 

message: I think things are starting to get to the point where we can't keep the summaries of the main characters in the show limited to little summaries on the main show page. I mean, looking at Rose's entry is the most obvious proof, as it seems to go off into major territory that involves the Jake and Rose plotline and less about her actual character. The step with moving secondary characters and magical creatures onto seperate pages was a good start, but I think we might have to take another step with the main characters. Langdon Alder 18:50, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. There is much more information about the major characters than there is on the main article. TrackFan 02:23, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seperate Character Pages 

message: Can it be agreed that Rose is an anti-hero? I believe she is, as she appears reluctant to be part of an evil group such as the Huntsclan, and that she actively tries to sabotage their efforts during the second season, but only after discovering that Jake was the American Dragon.
Other attributes to her being an anti-hero is her past history of being abducted from her mother; her activities with the Huntsclan during the first season, where she redeemed of her crimes during the episode 'The Hunted' by sparing Jake's life; the fact she lives two lives: One as herself, and the other as the Huntsgirl, and that both these personas often conflict with each other.
What do you think?
GamerJay 12:03, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rose as an Anti-Hero 

message: ...for the episodes. They are all pointing to completely irrelevant pages. Pascal.Tesson 03:49, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed them. --Erased Paper 09:09, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  please remove the interwiki links... 

message: Does anyone else think that we really need this section? It just seems to me like another unneeded section. TrackFan 01:19, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking the same. --Erased Paper 08:03, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Places 

message: I am living in Australia and the episode "Homecoming" has just aired with Ghost Story coming next week. So shouldn't America be past us on episode? I was going to edit some articles when I saw not to put any info past "The Love Cruise" on. I mean America does it all the time to Australians and even the Pokemon articles have info yet to be released in America, so can I add info or not and what episode are American's up to? trainra 06:27, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Switcheroo" has been the latest episode. I'm sure you can add information to the articles regarding those episodes.TrackFan 18:24, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This again is interesting beause the schedule says after "The Love Cruise", "Year of the Jake" plays which has yet to appear in Australia. trainra 02:12, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess that's just how the schedule is in the United States. If I remember from last year, "The Hunted" premiered in the U.K. months before it premiered in the U.S. TrackFan 15:21, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Really Confused. 

message: I can't add the airdates for the second season. For some reason, they won't show up on the more detaild episode list. DanTD 23:10, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Airdates for second season 

message: Hi, i was just wondering if it would be good if we put a redirect to this article from the name minus the colin (American Dragon Jake Long redirects to American Dragon: Jake Long).  just noticed it didnt have a redirect, and i thought it might be useful.--Warryy 14:05, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect?

message: Will somebody either tell me how to fix the article on Ring Around the Dragon, or do it for me?! I can't make the trivia, references, links, and categories show up at the same time! ---- DanTD 04:58, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fix "[[Ring Around the Dragon]]" for me! 

message: Every article (or most if not all) besides this one has a DVD release section, why doesn't this article have one? Oh and since this is not on my watchlist please leave a copy of the reply on my talk page. Thanks. TheBlazikenMaster 14:21, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason there is no section is because no DVD has been released. There would be no point to put a DVD release section if there was no DVD being released right? TrackFan 18:39, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  DVD releases. 

message: Between season 1 and 2, the theme song changed. Not a big change, just either better recording or completely different band. I think the original band was called Mavin?
:Yep. The band was called Mavin, and it featured A.J. Trauth (another Disney Channel star): myspace.com/mavin.
::Season 1 was Mavin and season 2 was the Jonas Brothers.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.112.221.166 (talk) 21:34, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theme Song 

message: *Stop writing it's over seriously.
**It is over. Unless you have some proof that it is not over, then please refrain from editing that is still continuing. It has been confirmed on the blog from the producers of the show and it is known that The Hong Kong Longs is the series finale. TrackFan 17:16, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Show has not ended 

message: Since this has become an issue, I thought it would be best to have it here on the talk page. In my personal opinion, I do not believe that this episode should not be mentioned on this page or the episode page since this is not an episode of American Dragon: Jake Long but rather an episode of Lilo and Stitch: The Series. What does everyone else think, besides me and Andromeda? TrackFan 16:17, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Crossover episode with Lilo and Stitch: The Series controversy

message: Where are the character pages for the minor characters and magical creatures at? I believe that it is important for people to know this info.
:You may think it's important but according to Wikipedia:Manual of Style (writing about fiction) these articles are not important.TrackFan (talk) 21:04, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not our decision though. Unless it has real world information, Wikipedia tends to keep these articles short, sweet, and to the point. TrackFan (talk) 18:37, 8 December 2007 (UTC)

text: The same place as the episode pages; all destroyed by self-righteous deletionists. ----DanTD (talk) 05:14, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically, they aren't deleted. They redirect back to this page. And for the record, I had nothing to do with this (just saying this now so people don't start assuming). TrackFan (talk) 18:12, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where are the other character pages? 

message: I know lots of people have edited it, but I have added Haley Long to the charactors list, as on most websites, she is classed as one of the lower class main charactors. Also she is a helping charctor who is a dragon aswell. Vitual aelita (talk) 21:41, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A lower class main character to me sounds like a secondary character. TrackFan (talk) 19:48, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haley Long 

message: I just noticed there were no pictures of Jake's dragon form. Do you think it should be included (possibly showing the difference between season 1 and 2)? Unbalanced (talk) 01:06, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There were pictures in this article of Jake in his dragon form from both seasons. Unfortunately, the pictures eventually became deleted. I would not upload up any new pictures since one, Wikipedia tends to dislike articles with numerous pictures and two, the article would become cluttered which is a reason to Wikipedia's dislike of numerous pictures. I don't see a need for the pictures. Hope that answers your question. TrackFan (talk) 23:43, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I believe this was the main reason to why that article is now defunct: "The main characters are already covered in the main article. Minor characters like these do not need expanded coverage outside of the episodes summaries." <-(This was written by one of the expert editors on Wikipedia)TrackFan (talk) 21:24, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

text: It's not up to us of what stays and what goes. If Wikipedia believes it's unnecessary, then they will deem it as unnecessary. TrackFan (talk) 22:07, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dragon Form 

message: I feel this article is repeating itself with this section which could lead to another separate article which in turn will be deleted, like the previous article before it (the one I created), by the moderators here at Wikipedia. In my opinion, the major characters are sufficient enough. Any opinions on this? TrackFan (talk) 15:59, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: How exactly are you going to improve this? (EDIT) I just mean, in a sense, how are you going improve that section without it resulting in having too many characters leading into another soon-to-be defunct page? TrackFan (talk) 15:20, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

text: What I mean is, to put it bluntly, Wikipedia has gotten rid of/deleted an article like that before. It no longer exists. What you're doing is exactly what I did months before. It led to a new article which lasted for quite some time and then the people at Wikipedia voted and decided that it was unnecessary. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Perhaps now we can just limit the article down to just main characters. TrackFan (talk) 14:37, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Major secondary characters?

message: References can not be viewed due to the fact that the blog is open to invited readers only.  Any way of mirroring a copy to see the sources for this page?
just my 2 cents  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.187.147.202 (talk) 10:50, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  http://amdrag.blogspot.com/ blog is open to invited readers only 

message: Can someone please help me with the time slot. There is going to be a new one starting beggining of 2010 but i do not know if it is going to be permanent. It starts 1/4/2010.Im serious2222 (talk) 23:41, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a source, i.e. a link? BOVINEBOY2008 :) 00:27, 27 December 2009 (UTC)

text: Can you provide the url? It is not that I don't believe you, but it needs to be sourced and verified. BOVINEBOY2008 :) 21:15, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Time Slot 

message: I've deleted the section on the sequel. I've researched this and have found no proof of this. And seeing as no sources were listed, I thought it best to delete it.
--Dhaman Ashtar 10:47, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sequel 

message: Hi, just want to let you know that someone keeps adding something about a season 3 and "American Dragon: Jake Long: Shiver Me Dragons" when there is NO such thing. I've been deleting delete these and can someone fix up the main ADJL article page?
Wolfdog406 (talk) 18:36, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ARGH!!! 

message: Can someone please undo User:72.70.25.62's edits?
Wolfdog406 (talk) 18:52, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: I really think this could use some information about the dramatic change in art styles between Seasons 1 and 2. Surely there's some source out there that references it. Heck, it wouldn't surprise me if it were different animation teams. — trlkly 13:12, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Art Shift 

message: I have added the Refimprove tag to the article as more sources are needed. Also, if someone could replace the current citations that would be great. They link to a Blogger site which requires an account with Blogger which most people, including myself, do not have. Niazac (talk) 09:38, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: I think that this paragraph should be deleted. It has no significance or importance to the article and is disruptive. There is absolutely NO love trend between Jake and Ron. Who ever thought of this (Jake Long and Ron Stoppable love trend) is SICK!
We all know that Jake's love interest is Rose and he is straight and narrow...period!
I hate it when people make everything GLBT!
Wolfdog406 (talk) 01:37, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jake Long and Ron Stoppable love trend 

message: Why is he so small?80.141.181.204 (talk) 09:09, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Luong Lao Shi "Grandpa"  

message: Just to let people know that the language in this series is American English. Please leave that alone!
Wolfdog406 (talk) 19:23, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As Ive said in the edit summery, there is no such language as "American English", it is a dialect of English. --  axg ◉ talk  20:47, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Language

message: Maybe we should put a section for the theme song for the show. They had the same theme song and with 2 different artists.
Juan.h.idea (talk) 03:25, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theme Song 

message: If, as  asserts in this edit, Jake Long's ethnicity is "quite relevant", can we be more specific than "Asian-American", which could include Japanese, Chinese, Korean, Filipino, and Indian ethnicities, but could probably also include the Yemenese, Iranians and people from Brunei, what with all of those countries being in Asia. Cyphoidbomb (talk) 15:20, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely. The Long family (except for the father) are Chinese-Americans, and that factor is relevant to the storyline. ---------User:DanTD (talk)  15:57, 21 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnicity 

message: There's one more minor character from season 1 named Jaren MacArther.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by NDEdminson (talk • contribs) 01:25, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor characters 

message: Where it specifies things like the theme song performer and composers by years, that should not be the case. It should specify which seasons, not which years. SecretName101 (talk) 23:05, 26 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox