Talk:Capital of Japan

message: According to the list of successive capitals, Naniwa was the capital in the 4th century for a time. However, according to my sources (in particular, G.B. Sansom's "History of Japan to 1334") the Yamato people, in their movement and expansion across the islands, did not first come across the site until 663. While I'm willing to allow for some major discrepancies between the chronicles (Nihonshoki, etc) and actual historical chronology, I am wondering where this information came from. Anyone have thoughts, ideas, sources? Thank you. LordAmeth 12:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naniwa in the 4th century? 

message: This article - in the English wiki - looks to be made up of primary sources - mostly in Japanese.  Where are the scholarly peer-reviewed secondary sources?  This whole debate seems to fall entirely within Fringe anyway.  Last month the "no references" template was added.  I'm tempted to move that this article be nominated for deletion.  Do any editors have any Reliable Sources to utilize that justify the existence of the article? HammerFilmFan (talk) 18:12, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree; the supposed dispute in the introduction is not even cited in the first place, and since no editors have added reliable sources for it, I support deletion. Silver hr (talk) 19:39, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I second the motion to nominate this page for deletion. There are citations to support Japan as the capital, there are no citations to support Kyoto as still being capital, and there are no citations to support this argument even existsGobberpooper (talk) 00:14, 29 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  article seems to be either OR or Synthesis, or Fringe? - no secondary, reliable sources cited 

message: This paragraph was removed because it has no obvious source support. 
:Tokyo is the de facto capital of Japan, where the seat of the Government of Japan and home of the Emperor are located.  While this is generally accepted, the capital de jure is disputed by some people. Some supporters of the argument that Tokyo is the de jure capital city of Japan cite the 1868 establishment of Tokyo prefecture as the date that it became the capital. Others state that it occurred when Edo Castle became Tokyo Castle that same year, and still others say that it occurred when Tokyo Castle became the Imperial Castle (now the Kōkyo) in 1869.  Historically speaking, while there was an imperial edict transferring the capital to Heian-kyō, such a basis has never been provided for the transfer from Kyoto to Tokyo. So, today, there are some people who argue that since the transfer to Heiankyo was valid, Kyoto is still the capital of Japan, while some say that Tokyo and Kyoto are simultaneously capitals of Japan.
Any or all of these sentences can be restored.  Some discussion appears to be needed. --Enkyo2 (talk) 14:35, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Paragraph with no inline source cites

message: I am removing the "Multiple Issues" banner. First, no notes were provided when the banner was placed to indicate what wording was objectionable. Second, since the banner was placed, references have been provided and "citation needed" tags have been applied to the few places where additional references might be helpful. A lot of rewording was done during this process. Finally, the only paragraph that seems to have remained for a while with vague phrasing was removed and placed in the section above this over a year ago. The banner no longer serves any purpose. If there are objections to specific parts of the article, those should be noted on this talk page and discussed. Don Lammers (talk) 16:27, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing Banner 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Someone added the term "de facto" in relation to Tokyo's status as the capital of Japan, and I am removing it, because there's nothing in the cited sources supporting that assertion.  Also, this "debate" was discussed on this talk page previously (see sections Capital "Debate" and Paragraph with no inline source cites).  As we see in the previous discussions, there was insufficient support for retaining the "de facto" wording and it was removed.  It appears that the prior consensus was that the "de facto" assertion was not sufficiently supported by reliable sources, and since then, nothing has been posted here to effectively refute those discussions and establish a contrary consensus.  In order to honor the spirit and letter of WP:NOR, WP:RS, WP:FRINGE and WP:BRD, please do not add that wording again unless consensus has been established to add it.  -- HLachman (talk) 05:59, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capital debate again 

message: It would be useful to list the seats of power of the people actually ruling Japan from 1185 to 1868, surely? john k (talk) 00:14, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  de facto historical capitals