Talk:My Immortal (song)

message: Near the end, a Morse code sequence may be heard faintly in the background. Any idea what might be there? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.10.20.238 (talk) 02:11, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not quite :)  -- Huntster T • @ • C 08:15, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Morse Code in the background? 

message: It topped the adult pop chart from billboard http://www.billboard.com/#/artist/evanescence/chart-history/510526?f=343&g=Singles 24.139.117.90 (talk) 04:25, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't find that chart on Billboard...if you can find a source, I'll add the information. — Huntster (t @ c) 22:16, 31 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: i cant find any previous year end chart anywhere, but it is in Billboard Year-End Hot 100 singles of 2004 i know its not a good source cuz its ibviusly wikipedia itself, but its as good as i could do :/ maybe you could add it without a reference 24.139.117.90 (talk) 22:52, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: meh go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billboard_Year-End_Hot_100_singles_of_200424.139.117.90 (talk) 22:54, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for looking around, but as you thought, we can't use another Wiki article as a source. Sorry. — Huntster (t @ c) 00:02, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Charts

message: no!
band version should be piano rock and original version should be a ballad!
no alt. rock here whatsoever.99.224.130.20 (talk) 23:48, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is proper sources.  There has to be a reliable and verifiable source to add (really ANY) content to Wikipedia.  Simply changing the genres based on one's opinion goes strictly against Wikipedia's policies against original research.  Granted, this song isn't really alternative metal (at least not the band version-which is an example of how some people could disagree), but since there are no reliable sources that define the song otherwise, it should default to the genre that the band is classified as-alternative metal. ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 23:16, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: hhmmm, you've got a good point there :\, and i have a reference for alt-rock, it doesnt explain why the song is alt-rock, it only states that it is, its the best one i could find, and the last time i changed the genre with a reference, someone erased it, im gona edit the page and put in alt-rock with a reference, if someone erases my changes and that person has an account, plz tell me here :) oh and if the site i referenced is not relaible then plz say that here, that way i wont reference it anywere else :)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.139.117.90 (talk) 03:02, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted your edit.  Then realized I looked at it wrong and put it back. =D That site looks good enough (pun intended) for me as far as genres are concerned.  I normally stay away from genre edits but in most cases I'll try to preserve a consensus or monitor references for verifiability. This one seems fine.  It appears to be a user-editable site, but possibly not the genre so I don't have any complaints--but I, of course, can't speak for everybody.  Happy editing! ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 07:54, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And I removed it again. Yeah, Rateyourmusic is an entirely user-generated site. Another wiki, in a manner of speaking. Per our house rules, those types of sites are never considered valid sources. It would be like using another Wikipedia article as a source here...kind of defeating the purpose of sourcing. — Huntster (t @ c) 09:00, 6 August 2010 (UTC)

text: ok, im gona risk myself here again, im gona change it to alternative rock, i know that there will probably be someone who reverts it and gets angry with me or wtv, and i only change genres without references on the songs good enough and my immortal, because everyone would agree that it isnt metal, BUT dont worry about the other songs, if i list a genre on any other ev song, it will be w a reference, PLEEEAAASE dont revert it! the rest of the songs should totaly be classified alt-metal, if anyone reverts this song to alt-metal again, then fine ill leave it alone, but on the good enough single ill keep fightin on the discuss page, if its put as metal.<just sayin, didnt mean to get anyone angry> 24.139.117.90 (talk) 03:01, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, it's not a matter of making anyone angry, but a matter of using original research and opinion in a Wikipedia article.  The consensus has been that all Evanescence articles be listed as "alternative metal" as it results in the least amount controversy.  If a reliable source can be found which cites these songs otherwise, there should be no problems adding it.  But for all the reasons listed above, the genre should stay as it is for now. ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 03:40, 14 September 2010 (UTC)

text: fine i'll stop, got carried away there for a sec. 24.139.117.90 (talk) 21:43, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  alt. rock? 

message: I wanted to ask, can someone upload this picture of Amy Lee singing the song at the Billboard Music Awards: It's from Flickr:.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by My love is love (talk • contribs) 14:24, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, that picture cannot be used on Wikipedia because it's license is not appropriate.  "All rights reserved" means it is a copyrighted image and thus would be infringing on the owners rights to use here. ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 14:32, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that this pictures could be used, it says "Some rights reserved". , ,  My love is love (talk) 10:42, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: it took me a while to find it, but there's a VERY nice chart at Wikipedia:Upload/Flickr showing what icons on a flickr upload is OK and not OK for use on Wikipedia.  the three images listed above all have the "noncommercial" and thus aren't valid for use on Wikipedia. However, you may be able to contact the copyright holder for any image you find and see if they will reupload (or change) the copyright status of their image using a license that is suitable for WP.  hope this info helps. Good luck. =) ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 23:59, 29 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Please be aware that even if you got permission to use those images, the middle one could not be used because it primarily features that bigscreen display, and the copyright holder of that image would be the production company and/or videographer at the concert. Copyright law is very tricky, but if you have questions on specific images, let me know. — Huntster (t @ c) 00:35, 30 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: Hmm, AllMusic.com lists two "My Immortal" albums by the band: "Canada CD" which only lists post-grunge, and "CD #1, which lists several styles (including post-grunge). Should we only list post-grunge, or also the others? - Mike Rosoft (talk) 17:15, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the problem here is that style is not genre, which is what is used on wikipedia.  So I'd say none of the "styles" should be listed at all. ~ [ Scott M. Howard ] ~ [ Talk ]:[ Contribs ] ~ 18:42, 25 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Style

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Reference named "BPI":
From List of music recording certifications: 
From British Phonographic Industry: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 08:07, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:My Immortal]] 

message: The band lineup lists both Amy Lee and David Hodges on piano but it can't be both. While I understand that Amy Lee does play piano, in the video there is a male pianist (probably David Hodges) and seeing both musicians credited as having played the same instrument is ambiguous. I see that this is a good article, but I don't see how it could possibly be both.--Kevjgav (talk) 21:19, 23 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amy Lee and David Hodges on piano 

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message: If at the beginning of the article it is stated the song is a power ballad, why does the following paragraph mention it won the Grammy Award as a pop song:"In 2005 the band was nominated in the category for Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals at the 47th Grammy Awards for the song"? See? The category clearly says "Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals", yet at the beginning it is mentioned the song is a power ballad--Fandelasketchup (talk) 14:07, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

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replies: text: The move discussion was closed. The result leaves this page where it is, no moving. ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 03:18, 11 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

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The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) BilledMammal (talk) 04:52, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: My Immortal →  – Last discussed five years ago, and had considerable support then.  Today in 2023, My Immortal (fan fiction) still gets the vast majority of the pageviews, which suggests a WP:NOPRIMARY situation. 162 etc. (talk) 01:48, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 11 August 2023 

message: It’s not emo. It’s a Goth metal power ballad . 208.118.203.148 (talk) 20:11, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want some ooomph behind your argument you will find a published source saying "goth metal" or "power ballad", and provide a link here. Otherwise you are simply contradicting this source. Binksternet (talk) 20:53, 6 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  It’s not emo.