Talk:Screwball comedy

message: Extremely far-fetched and absurd comparison. Probably put forward by Cahiers du Cinema or some other pompous French 'cinema critic' with zero understanding of American cinema.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.154.17 (talk) 20:23, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  "It has secondary characteristics similar to film noir, distinguished by a female character who dominates the relationship with the male central character, whose masculinity is challenged" - whoever wrote this cannot possibly have seen The Big Sleep, The Blue Dahlia, Farewell My Lovely or any of the other classic noirs.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.154.17 (talk) 13:41, 23 December 2023 (UTC)

text: This point is relevant to Double Indemnity, often noted as the definitive film noir and some of its riffs. However, it does not pertain to many other notable examples from the classic period, especially detective noirs à la Humphrey Bogart. That being said, both genres subverted the code in similar ways, and many screwball comedies deal with crime (The Thin Man, Ball of Fire, and Some Like It Hot). Immacritic101 (talk) 20:12, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: 'film noir'

message: In addition to the Coen brothers' comedy, _The Hudsucker Proxy_, I'd add their film, _Intolerable Cruelty_, to the list of recent screwball comedies.  I think this easily satisfies the criteria as set forth in the accompanying page.
*I went ahead and tried to clean up the article, adding more examples, especially to the list of modern screwball comedies, correcting a few typos, and addressing the comments as to the "elusive" nature of the genre.
Because at least half of the examples of the screwball comedy listed below -- including such definitive examples as His Girl Friday and The Lady Eve -- are from the early 1940s, I'm extending the "end" date for the major period of Screwball Comedy from 1939 to 1942.  The 1939 "end" date doesn't really make sense, coming about three years too soon. 68.1.175.241 28 June 2005 05:10 (UTC)
:This page is terrible.  Screwball comedies are not one of the most elusive of film genres; they are as easily identifiable as film noir or such.  Needs serious rewrite.  Mandel 15:23, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Just because you disagree with it does not make the whole page terrible.  While some would say there is a very clear definiton of a screwball, there are many different and conflicting opinions of what that definition, or definitions, are.  --Ryuukuro 00:07, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It is terrible.  It has been in the same sorry state for more than a year.  The structure is haphazard, the examples runs similarly so.  It's too short for an important film genre. I reckon most people give up doing anything for it after seeing how difficult it is to do a rewrite.  And you contradict yourself.  If there aren't a list of defined criteria (most clearly battle of sexes and romance), then why are so many still listed here? There is in fact no argument about what the screwball is.  What are the your so-called "conflicts" in definitions? Mandel 16:07, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: 2005 

message: Why are they called "screwball comedies" anyway? I assume it's something to do with the baseball term, but that's very little known outside baseball-playing nations. Loganberry (Talk) 03:53, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Any answers? I'll probably take it to the RefDesk if not. Loganberry (Talk) 02:45, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's related to the old slang term "screwball", meaning crazy or twisted. 惑乱 分からん 23:10, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Well, that should be mentioned in the article. Maybe it was obvious to older generations, but the rest is at a total loss. --Trickstar (talk) 09:17, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sigh ... it's explained in detail in the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.154.17 (talk) 20:21, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obvious question not addressed in the article 

message: If someone has information regarding the script writers, I think that would be an important addition to this page.  I had heard that  the studios hired many playwrites from New York which accounted for the tight, witty dialogue of many of these movies.  Discussion of this would add to this page.  
And in some cases the screenplay writers may be infinitely more important to the making of the films than their directors
:: 'playwrites' ... LOL. "writers may be infinitely more important to the making of the films than their directors" ... laughable.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.154.17 (talk) 20:25, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writers 

message: Need etymology of the term, and its application to the genre. Badagnani (talk) 07:04, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sigh ... it's all there in the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.154.17 (talk) 20:27, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: 1933's Bombshell surely qualifies as screwball comedy and was perhaps the first of the genre, despite claims Twentieth Century is the first.  It has all of the ingredients of a screwball comedy.--Susan Nunes 26 September 2008  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.228.62.97 (talk) 15:42, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Bombshell

message: I notice--a bit late!--that JGG59 reverted my entry of The Bachelor and the Bobby-Soxer, 1947, from this article back in 2007.  However, the film has its own wiki entry of long standing, with plenty of editorial activity, which has stated that it is a screwball comedy, and there has been no objection.  I'm therefore restoring this film to its rightful place in this article, at the end of the classic era.Ajschorschiii (talk) 20:53, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Bachelor and the Bobby-Soxer 

message: The 1974 film "What's Up, Doc?" was a remake of the classic screwball comedy film "Bringing Up Baby." I think it should be included somewhere on this page. --Ringwraith10 (talk) 13:46, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's Up, Doc? 

message: A possible addition to the modern list.  Strong women characters, effeminate male ( Gary,) wacky situations, even class vs class are all present.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:1:C200:CC0:61A9:1526:6054:7771 (talk) 05:13, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Not remotely screwball.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.10.154.17 (talk) 20:29, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Desparately Seeking Susan 

message: ...and the financially struggling moviegoing public's desire to see the rich upper class taught a lesson in humanity?
I have no clue what the argument is here...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kay.V.Patino (talk • contribs) 05:27, 19 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Upper/lower class 

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