Talk:William Edward Hickman

message: Marion Parker was a girl. Normally, the female variation of this name is spelled "Marian" however, she was named for her father, Perry "Marion" Parker  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.148.31.249 (talk) 03:00, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Marian parker was a boy or girl?

message: Newsboy, Preacher and Early Country music songwriter "Blind" Andrew Jenkins recorded a song called "The Fate of Edward Hickman" which details parts of the crime and the fate of the criminal. I don't remember which company released the disk or when it was released, likely between 1925 and 1929. Jenkins famously penned "The Death of Floyd Collins", the most lucrative early country "event song", a tradition in which "...Edward Hickman" is definately included. Also there are a few other Marion Parker related songs in the early hillbilly tradition that should be documented here. 
I don't have a copy of " Country Music Records: A Discography, 1921-1942" by Tony Russell here with me, but those songs are listed in the index.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.241.35.57 (talk) 01:10, 27 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Fate of Edward Hickman" by Blind Andy Jenkins 

message: He inspired her to start wring her first book and she wrote about him at other times.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.142.222.164 (talk) 00:07, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: She made notes for a possible novel that was abandoned, which is not the same thing as "writing her first book". As for "other times", please say when/where and what your source is for that claim. Regardless, this is an article about Hickman, not about Rand, so placing it in :Category:Ayn Rand and placing a template about her on the article is entirely inappropriate. Finally, no amount of connection between the subjects makes it acceptable for you to plagiarize text from a Slate article. (Plus there is a great irony in plagiarizing from infamous plagiarist Johann Hari.) --RL0919 (talk) 01:03, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Well the thing that is interesting about this subject is Rand now, by far, as sadly acts of beastiality like this are not uncommon. There must be something that isn't being conveyed here. Because even in 1928 there was for example Leopold and Loeb. Nothing in this article makes clear why Rand might have chosen Hickman over them when they are supposed to have explicitly espoused Nietzschean ideas leading to their crime. She must have seen him as some kind of Bigger Thomas or the Objectivist version of that somehow and there's nothing here to make that clear which in turn makes her look like a monster, I imagine wrongly? 72.228.189.184 (talk) 00:44, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "Interesting" is a subjective point. As for further details of Rand's thinking, even if they were relevant to this article, much of it simply isn't available. All we have is some notes in her journals, so there isn't a source for things she didn't explain there. --RL0919 (talk) 14:26, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, and as I've thought about it, I don't think there is any there there. She just made a mistake based on her nascent philosophy as it stood in 1928, she wasn't after all that bright (although obviously of superior intelligence) and at that point was 23 so it was childish mistake/error of judgement I presume. For that reason not bothering to look into details of Hickman's life. 72.228.189.184 (talk) 16:27, 23 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ayn Rand