Wikipedia talk:WikiProject The Beatles/The Beatles' miscellanea

message: while the text, quoted beow, states that the English pub came second in this vote, the accompanying photo is one of Elizabeth II who, according to the caption, "came second" - I don't know if it's the article or caption that's wrong, but the inconsistency is obvious:
"In second place - after The Beatles - came the local English public house - 32% - which was followed by the British countryside - 27%. Shakespeare was named as the "Best of British" by only 13 per cent." MickO'Bants 20:55, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image for "Best of British" 

message: Is this encyclopedic? WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of information. This might be better suited for something on Wikia, instead of an encyclopedia. In the first place, the fact that this can never go beyond a bullet-point list already indicates this probably can't be encyclopedic - an encyclopaedia article is written in prose. On the plus side, though, I suppose we could bend the rules, if only to get rid of all that annoying trivia on Beatles-related articles. Johnleemk | Talk 17:18, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the only motivation. I consider it a sandbox, and certainly won't have it on my watchlist. If the article only lasts a couple of months and gets AFD'd, well, at least for that period of time we can ease the pressure on the main article. That said, this is only a stub, and some other trivia articles not only exist but have survived AFD (John Lennon trivia). --kingboyk 17:59, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Encyclopedic value 

message: I have added a "Free as a Bird" section on the Trivia page. I have listed as many song titles as I can think of, but I’m sure I missed some. Please feel free to contribute, when you want to while away the hours…
It is definitely not listed as a bullet-point piece, but as an explanation of the content. I feel that by doing so, it gives some credit to the wonderful job the film-makers did in compiling the shots for the video. It can further expanded with prose, should you so wish... andreasegde 12:17, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free as a bird 

message: There are no bullet points (apart fron The Rutles listing the band members). There are short pieces, but they need to be expanded. Please help. andreasegde 12:43, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bullet points 

message: This seems to have become a serious article! I'll read it later and come back with a review. --kingboyk 19:16, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been asked to assess this article, which I will do most happily (but not right now as it's a long article and I don't have time). At first glance (on this visit) I wonder if perhaps it's misnamed now? Anyway, it seems to be a cleverly constructed article and a decent read, not at all what I expected when I first moved some trivia over to here from the main article :) I'll be back later today or by the end of the week to give it a cleanup and a rating (almost certainly it will be B-class, with GA class a realistic prospect - but to get GA the article has to be nominated first. We can discuss that when I come back, if I think it has a decent shot at it). --kingboyk 10:47, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  My goodness 

message: I´m not sure if it should be in. If I put it into "John Lennon", would it look out of place? Answers on a postcard please, to Blue Peter, BBC Broadcasting house.... andreasegde 17:35, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: John Lennon airport

message: I have been thinking that the articles could be separated and grouped together under headings like Politics, Music, TV, Film etc... What do you think, andreasegde? (Laugh...)
:No idea, but do it and see if anyone chops you in the windpipe... andreasegde 13:21, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I did it, but "Odd-job" didn´t appear. andreasegde 19:47, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Providing you have more than 1 piece in each section it should work fine. If you have a few pieces that has no proper section whatever you do do not put them under a Trivia heading.LessHeard vanU 20:47, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, darling. Will do. When will this page get a rating? andreasegde 14:45, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Talking to myself again

message: This might raise a smile...
"In 1984 the famous Railway Series Books were turned into a famous TV series one Beatles band member done Thomas the tank engine & Friends and that is Ringo Starr he was a beatles band member ever since the 1960's Ringo Starr provide the voice and narration of the TV show. When the Thomas show was a sucess the episodes were brodcasted in many countries and translted into different languges such as Japan& Israel etc. And also Ringo Starr was in the Amercian Spin-off Shining Time Station but soon in 1991 Ringo finished Thomas and went back to his Music carrer and soon he was replaced by Michael Angelis."
Ahhh, the innocence of youth (nice smile...) andreasegde 12:14, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Or, the sadness of geriatrics (thin smile...) LessHeard vanU 23:05, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Could be. I was being nice about an obviously young editor (or an old one? I hope not...) because I was delighted at his/her first attempts at editing. We all started somewhere. I wasn´t being sarcastic, or biting newcomers; I thought it was really sweet, (though obviously it should have been on Ringo´s page.) More power to his/her editing elbow. andreasegde 14:03, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose that countering systematic bias is very laudable, but I still think there is a place for comprehension.(adult grin)LessHeard vanU 20:12, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Thomas the tank engine has gone

message: The name of this article has to be changed. Any ideas? andreasegde 23:32, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Guess what my suggestion is...? It starts with a "M" and ends with "a"!(inane grin)LessHeard vanU 11:17, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, you got me on that one. M & A? The Beatles mama? - The Beatles mega?... andreasegde 11:38, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Change of name

message: Not sure about this being in without a citation. If we put in every musician that loved The Beatles it would be longer than my arm. andreasegde 11:38, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Kurt Cobain 

message: Yes, that´s exactly right, because it needs more references from books than Internet references, BUT... it´s not realistic to find quotes from books, because most of the stuff here has never been in a book. --212.241.67.98 22:06, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: This is a "B article"

message: There is a last photo of Lennon and McCartney, but what about a last meeting? I know McCartney made attempts to visit Lennon at the Dakota; sometimes he was let in, other times Yoko turned him away. Does anybody know more?
:Well, whoever you are, I agree. John once said (to McCartney), "It´s not like the old days, y´know - ya can´t just turn up when you want." Anybody got any references? --andreasegde 21:12, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "The following day, April 25, 1976, McCartney reportedly showed up unannounced at Lennon's apartment with a guitar. Lennon was busy and/or annoyed and turned him away. This was the last known meeting between Paul McCartney and John Lennon." From the Paul McCartney page on Wikipedia. I don´t believe it though. I think they met later. --andreasegde 09:24, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bloody sad* if they didn't. *old fashioned usage. --kingboyk 14:08, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Last Meeting

message: This article was up for deletion a short time ago, and it survived. (16 July 2006
) Why is it under threat of deletion again? --andreasegde 17:01, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Aha... The Vandals have been thwarted. Mine´s a pint. --andreasegde 10:44, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The second AfD should be noted at the top of this page, like the first one was, especially as the concensus was KEEP. It would have been helpful when the current AfD was launched. LessHeard vanU 22:56, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Up for deletion AGAIN

message: I am merging lots of stuff from here to The Beatles article on their influence on popular culture. The Beatles' influence on popular culture--andreasegde 17:05, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moving and merging

message: Since The Beatles are included at Wikipedia's Core Biographies project, I'd like to invite the editors here to imitate an approach I've started elsewhere.  While I raised Joan of Arc to featured article when I created Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, which has become a featured list.  Recently I also created Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great out of material that had been deleted from the biography article.  Maybe adoption of this model will free the editors here to spend more time on improvements and less time fighting deletion nominations.  Regards, Durova 15:40, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice, but can I suggest 'Joan of Arc-Cartney', or 'Lennon the Great'? Sorry - only a joke - but I couldn't resist it... --andreasegde 19:17, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cultural depictions of The Beatles?

message: WHO HAS TAKEN OUT NEARLY OF THE PHOTOS? THEY ARE STILL ON THEIR ORIGINAL PAGES - SO WHY?? Mr Not-very-happy 05:12, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You could try the edit history... Before boiling up the tar I think you might have a look at the license for each photo. If it is free use then you are perfectly within your rights to boil the individual, if it is fair use then you may have a problem justifying its use outside of the article directly relating to same (but I do have a bit of road that needs metalling, so don't let the tar get cold.) LessHeard vanU 21:36, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ha ha ha ha--Crestville 10:48, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "metalling"? Is that what it's called? I didn't know that. andreasegde 17:23, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: PHOTOS

message: I have to thank 81.178.208.69, because he is the only user who disagrees with this page that actually leaves a comment. If you think this page is a waste of time, then it would be civil to talk about it, would it not? andreasegde 20:50, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: This article

message: The Beatles trivia is now "The Beatles' miscellanea". Let the trivia zealots boil their heads in oil... andreasegde 21:08, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was thinking "The Beatles in popular culture", but I guess it's not totally accurate and conflicts with The Beatles' influence on popular culture. A minor note: The special apostrophe ( ’ ) here is different than the plain one over at the other articles ( ' ). Pomte 17:50, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the difference between Arial and Times New Roman. I used Arial. Maybe Times New Roman is used for titles.  andreasegde 22:23, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Regardless of font, they are completely different characters. If you search using the normal character, you will not get here. Look in the URL address bar of your browser, and you should see one as %E2%80%99, the other as %27. Again, no big deal. Pomte 22:42, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Change it if you want to. I don't mind at all. andreasegde 08:28, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have changed it. These Austrian keyboards are useless. andreasegde 13:10, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

text: "Trivia" is so last month, I do agree. I'm changing it in other Beatles articles I find as well. Liamshaw 19:58, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: Check The Beatles' miscellanea to see if there is anything in it you can use. A lot of 'miscellanea' needs to be trimmed (as linked articles are improved) so please feel free to use anything before certain sections get zapped into the ether... ThE bEaTLeS aka andreasegde 16:30, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The Beatles' miscellanea