Talk:Battle of Sinop

message: The description of Velikiy Knyaz Konstantin as having 120 guns conflicts strongly with the page it is linked to.  Could they be two different ships of the same name?  Kd5mdk 20:05, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Guns

message: I think Sinop order of battle should be merged here. Thoughts? --AW 22:24, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed, it's not like this article is overburdened with content Modest Genius talk 23:57, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Agreed, if the Order of Battle is added at the end. Cosal 11:20, 17 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I support the merge. The order of battle for an article should not have a seperate page but it should be part of the article of the battle. Kyriakos 21:43, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Order of battle 

message: Someone deleted a comment about the British ambassador only sending frigates to Sinope possibly in the hope that the Russians would attack Turkey. It's true that there had been some minor fighting before this battle, but nothing that would really "justify" intervention by Britain and France until this battle. So I think it's still a possibility?
SpookyMulder (talk) 04:29, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion

message: someone should revise the article, because it contains some funny things like "battle with non-moved turkish ships"? damn, its not a batle. its typical bust--Orkh (talk) 16:57, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it a Battle or just a Bust 

message: I'm listening now to a history course by prof. Robert I. Wiener. He says that the Battle was called "the massacre of Sinop" by English press and a propaganda campaing was unleashed to make a pretext for invasion into Crimea. Would be interesting to find sources and add this information. --CopperKettle (talk) 11:42, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See that Google search brought: "Massacre of Sinope" --CopperKettle (talk) 12:57, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Massacre" of Sinop? 

message: I'm not sure that the use of the word battleship to describe some of the Russian ships is the best description. Although it may be technically acurate the word is most often used in association with post Dreadnought ships and that is the umage it conjures up. Ship of the line seems much more appropriate and acurate to me. IanOfNorwich (talk) 11:43, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed --AW (talk) 14:36, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battleship or Ship of the Line 

message: It's probably significant that the attack was launched on St. Andrew's Day - can anyone confirm this? Drutt (talk) 15:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: St. Andrew

message: Why is it not mentioned in the article that the Russians had 37 killed and 233 wounded and the Turkish had more than 3000 killed and wounded? Corvi cantus (talk) 21:51, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  casualties 

message: I know absolutely nothing about this battle; I came here from the Paixhans gun article. That article claims that the Paixhans guns used by the Russians were absolutely decisive in this battle, and not only determined the outcome of the battle but heralded the demise of the wooden warship. Our Ironclad warship article seems to support this, with every major navy starting plans for ironclads within 2 or 3 years of this battle, and the first ironclads launched 6 years later. That article also includes the statement:
:It is often held that the power of explosive shells to smash wooden hulls, as demonstrated by the Russian destruction of a Turkish squadron at the Battle of Sinope, spelled the end of the wooden-hulled warship.[8]
It is also notable that the description of the damage to the Turkish ships is similar to the testing of the prototype Paixhans gun against the Pacificateur.
At present, this article doesn't mention Paixhans guns, or the nature of the Russian armament at all. If it is true that the Russians used Paixhans guns, and that this was a signal moment in naval warfare, could a more knowledgeable person please add this to the article? -- 202.63.39.58 (talk) 12:40, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paixhans guns 

message: Is this linking to the right guy? His article says he was in the infantry during 1852-53, makes no mention of this battle. I had thought the commander of the battle was actually English?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.174.133.58 (talk) 02:26, 30 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Osman Pasha

message: This part doesn't sound right to me:
"Nakhimov arranged his force between the Ottomans and the shore batteries shielding his own force and exposing the Ottomans to potential friendly fire."
I'm in no way an expert in naval tactics, but wouldn't it be against common sense to place yourself between the enemy an the enemy's shore batteries? If Nakhimov kept the anchored turkish fleet between himself and the batteries this would make more sense.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.104.221.90 (talk) 09:27, 30 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Description of the Battle 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The statement above is supported only by a dubious and undated reference in Russian. According to the article, however, there were steam ships on both sides in the battle. I therefore propose to delete this misleading statistic, the significance of which is unexplained in any case. Until a more reliable reference is found, it does not belong here. Sweetpool50 (talk) 17:06, 18 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Last major battle between fleets of sailing ships"