Talk:Poultry farming

message: As all the rest of Wikipedia articles, this is just general descriptive and unprofessional knowledge, which doesn't benefit anybody in really farming poultry. Please add that kind of details. Teemu Ruskeepää (talk) 09:48, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add Practical Details 

message: There is a lot about how industrial farming is bad.
Describe how it is done. 
Too much about the existence of controvery, not enough about what is controversial. 
What are the size of the cages? 
What is in the feed?
Compare maturation rates of caged and free range birds.
Data is more persuasive than angst. More pictures. 
Compare the chemistry of free range and caged eggs. 
All things I would be interested in knowing. More interested than in the existence of potential controversy maybe.
Sermon over. Get to work.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.78.122.238 (talk) 00:57, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Describe how it is done. Too much about the existence of controversy, not enough about what is controversial 

message: http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=allintitle%3A+chicken+feed+standard&btnG=Search
--222.67.209.100 (talk) 02:37, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info about standardization 

message: at least half the article is devoted to the controversy section. there is a subsection titled "destructive practices that pose serious risk to humans". there are weasel words and uncited paragraphs. Asdf98761 (talk) 06:09, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Even the parts that aren't in the controversy section are extremely biased. This article should be about the process, not the controversies. There's enough there for a separate article. LRT24 (talk) 02:50, 27 May 2011 (UTC)

text: That should probably go in the article urban chicken.  Dream Focus 23:03, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: controversy

message: In the "E. coli" section, the article currently reads: According to Consumer Reports, "1.1 million or more Americans [are] sickened each year by undercooked, tainted chicken."
A 2010 article at Consumer Reports has different information.  http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/magazine-archive/2010/january/food/chicken-safety/overview/chicken-safety-ov.htm Each year, salmonella and campylobacter from chicken and other food sources infect 3.4 million Americans, send 25,500 to hospitals, and kill about 500, according to estimates by the national Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
Out of the tainted meat that affects 3.4 million Americans, most of it from chickens, isn't it?  The government itself should list stats year by year of each infection caused by each type of food.   Dream Focus 01:16, 11 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: updated numbers from Consumer Reports

message: What is the purpose of the 'Intelligence' section?  This information is about hens, the organisms, rather than poultry farming.  It is misleading to equate intelligence with deserving humane treatment.  The section should be removed. DrChrissy (talk) 13:26, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Intelligence' section

message: The latest addition to the World Chicken Population uses the phrase 'factory farms'...do these include battery cages, free-range, barns, furnished cages?   The expression is  so vague it is meaningless.  In addition, this information is from a publication in 2009 and so is possibly 4-5 years old.  In the EU, battery cages are now banned (from today Jan 1st) so I suspect this information is very misleading. DrChrissy (talk) 13:38, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: details in World Chicken Population

message: I'm not sure the recent changes in the levels of the headings are correct.  The changes make all the 'issues' relate only to broilers, and this is not correct.  Having said this, I believe this entire articles needs a heavy edit as it discusses issues which are historical as if they are still problems.  DrChrissy (talk) 14:43, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes in headings

message: An editor recently added "An egg meant for eating purpose is not fertilized egg so there is no possibility of obtaining a chick from it.Such eggs are called table eggs."  Unfortunately, this is not entirely true.  Occasionally a cockerel is mistakenly placed in a cage or flock of laying hens.  The birds mate and the female lays a fertilsed egg.  This can be seen as a small red dot or smear in the yolk of table eggs...this is the very beginnings of an embryo.  The editor may wish to reword the addition.DrChrissy (talk) 18:22, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: How would you accidentally do that?  Any chicken farmer knows the difference between a rooster and a hen surely.  Most eggs come from battery hens, and I know they sort them at hatching by gender, and kill off the excess males by tossing them into a grinder.  Dream Focus 18:15, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As you say, sexing of chickens is usually done at one day of age.  It can be a highly skilled practice and occasionally there are mistakes and a male is not identified.  If he subsequently goes into battery cages he will only mate with those 4-5 hens in the cage so the farmer might not be too worried about removing the male.  In free range systems, a male is sometimes run with the females as it is thought to calm them.  In flocks of several thousand birds, a few fertilised eggs is not a problem, especially if they are collected several times each day as this means the egg will be younger on the shelf and the red streak will not develop.__DrChrissy (talk) 18:28, 26 October 2012 (UTC)

text: We may not understand how it happens - but it does.  See []__DrChrissy (talk) 16:25, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Addition regarding fertilised eggs

message: I propose that the section on Kuroiler hens is deleted from this article.  This article is about poultry farming, not poultry breeds.  I suggest that the section is re-written as a stub, perhaps similar to another Indian hen, the Kadaknath.__DrChrissy (talk) 17:59, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: India has the 5th highest number of chickens in the world, and this is the dominant species there. They mention broilers also in the article. How people raise chickens, and what the dominant type is, is relevant.  Dream Focus 18:28, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no objection to a 'mention' of Kuroiler hens, but a whole section seems excessive for the Poultry farming page. Of course this could be balanced if we were to include similar sections on the egg-layer and broiler hybrids used in other countries, but I feel this would add to the confusion that already exists in this article.  Looking at List of chicken breeds shows some very good articles for India e.g. Asil (chicken).  I think it would be tidiest to have detailed information on the Kuroiler in a seperate article and links to this in Poultry farming__DrChrissy (talk) 19:12, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Delete Kuroiler hens

message: It would be good to have a section on the history of this topic. I came here looking for it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tonyfv (talk • contribs) 03:52, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  History? 

message: The antibiotic section begins with this sentence: "Antibiotics have been used on poultry in large quantities since the 1940s, when it was found that the byproducts of antibiotic production, fed because the antibiotic-producing mold had a high level of vitamin B12 after the antibiotics were removed, produced higher growth than could be accounted for by the vitamin B12 alone. Eventually it was discovered that the trace amounts of antibiotics remaining in the byproducts accounted for this growth". Despite being relatively intelligent and having a good grasp of the English language, I had to read it several times before I actually understood what exactly the line is trying to say. If anyone could take a moment - Please consider altering the way it is phrased.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.67.160.223 (talk) 08:51, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Altering the antibiotic opening line's pharsing 

message: Concerning my revert , that link said its reference was from the government website at http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat11.htm The only thing about poultry also mentioned other things also thought.  And it said: Butchers and other meat, poultry, and fish processing workers
:Total employed 302 thousand workers, Women employed 25.7%, Black or African American 22.4%, Asian 8.0%, Hispanic or Latino 35.4%.
:So you can't say its mostly women, since clearly only 25.7% were women.  I also see no reason why you should mention the color of the workers.  Is that relevant?  Minorities have worse educational opportunities so dominate a lot of crappy jobs, including crop picking and construction.  Dream Focus 02:03, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the bad reference was removed and the incorrect information.  As for your new information, it shouldn't be in the Muscular Disorder subsection, so I moved it elsewhere.   Dream Focus 20:27, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: revert explanation

message: Hello, 
My edit was removed for being off topic , but I respectfully disagree with that notion. I was adding relevant new content about poultry workers' health and saftey onto the existing content about poultry workers' health and safety. What do you all think? Is it on topic? Is it completely off topic? Should I alter part of it and make a new edit? 
I’m willing to reach a compromise if needed, but I do wish to add most (if not all) of my material back. RockingGeo (talk) 22:26, 30 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expanding on worker health and safety 

message: No substantial content in the page, minimal sourcing, doesn't seem enough to justify a stand-alone page. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 20:06, 8 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No one responded. 49.149.124.235 (talk) 05:00, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[Chicken coop]] into [[Poultry farming]] 

message: I think this edit is obviously incorrect. Invasive Spices (talk) 19:15, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it? The first sentence of this article reads "Poultry farming is the form of animal husbandry" - so is :commons:Category:Poultry farming or :commons:Category:Poultry husbandry" correct? Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 19:36, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

text: *I think they are synonymous and so should both be here but certainly I wouldn't move away from the same string  to something different. Invasive Spices (talk) 20:14, 9 November 2021 (UTC)

text: ** OK, raised for discussion on Commons at :commons:Commons:Categories for discussion/2021/11/Category:Poultry husbandry, with a suggestion that we merge them. Thanks. Mike Peel (talk) 07:26, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: * OK Invasive Spices (talk) 17:18, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commons category 

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