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Talk:Impartial game

message: Ought that to be "partisan game", or is this an unusual usage? --Brion 01:53 Sep 2, 2002 (PDT)
The sentence
 Go is also not impartial, although it is closer than chess, because of the "no suicides" rule
is misleading.
Go, even without a no-suicide rule, fails to be impartial for the same reason as chess does, because one player places black stones and the other white.
I've rewritten the prior sentence to include both games.
75.36.182.157 02:51, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The list of impartial games should be longer. 70.111.224.85 13:17, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Games 

message: Most likely someone misunderstood what impartial game means, thought it meant that all sides are equally balanced, and stuck the claim about Diplomacy there. I have not played diplomacy, but if it has symmetrical payoffs for any given position, it's a very different game than I thought!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.238.44.38 (talk) 09:40, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diplomacy 

message: Is there a formal definition of an impartial game? The article says that chess is not impartial because only the white player can move the white pieces, and vice versa. But what if I redefine the position by adding a binary flag indicating whose player's turn it is? I.e., any move when the flag is "white" switches it to "black", and vice versa; if the black player ever reached a position where the flag is "white", he could move the white pieces, but the rules never allow the black player to reach such a position. (Or is it the case that if the game states can be split into two sets, one only reachable by the first player and the other only reachable by the second, the game is by definition not impartial?) - Mike Rosoft (talk) 16:57, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Impartial games
Talk:Tahr

message: Can not find this Genus: Hemitragus  in ITIS, any comments? -- User:Caltrop
It's in Caprinae, which ITIS says is incomplete. See http://www.ultimateungulate.com/artiodactyla.html . -phma
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I'm pulling the Himalayan tahr out to its own article, to avoid confusion. Vicki Rosenzweig
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I saw a Himalayan tahr on Table Mountain today. Something has survived... Tonyfaull 22:40, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Wikipedia talk:Top 10 Google hits

message: All the ones I've added have turned up in the top 10 without using quotations to return an exact match.  (I'm guessing that's the way most people search.)  --KQ 11:21 Sep 2, 2002 (PDT)
: I wonder if we should standardize on using the q argument for Google's search for single-word searches and the as_epq argument for multi-word searches (which parses them as a phrase, not as a group of words)? The results differ... --Shallot 22:02, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Some search links also include the argument X=1, which may be an old name for the present exact match (as_epq). --Shallot 22:10, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Not using exact matches on phrases

message: Seems like people who have taken a copy of Wikipedia can have higher pagerank than ours. For example, see , where http://www.wordiq.com and http://www.ezresult.com show up, but we don't.
Is this a good thing or a bad thing? Do we list such pages on this page?
:This is a rather bad thing, as it makes it significantly less likely that someone who reads the article will actually contribute to it, or the encyclopedia in general. I have come to the conclusion that our clones _must_ be using various schemes of search engine optimisation in order to get a higher rank on google, given our prominence. I'm not sure what we could do about this, but those searches shouldn't be listed here if our results are not in the top 10. - snoyes 05:36, 7 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about our clones?
Talk:Himalayan tahr

message: Can someone make a proper pretty taxobox for this? Vicki Rosenzweig
:Done. RedWolf 20:08, Apr 24, 2004 (UTC)
Hi, I would like to suggest the merging of Shapi to this article based on this link, http://www.indiaenvironmentportal.org.in/node/18764?quicktabs_2=1 , which lists the Shapi as a subspecies of Himalayan Tahr. More of this discussion can be be found on the shapi page. 69.247.14.191 (talk) 00:09, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: There are no reliable references in this article about Shapi, but only external links to websites that either do not allow access, or provide advertisement but NO information about this animal. So definitely against merging! -- BhagyaMani (talk) 09:13, 5 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Proposed Shapi for deletion , as I cannot find any reliable sources describing this as a recognized subspecies.--Elmidae (talk · contribs) 08:07, 23 October 2016 (UTC)

text: Since nobody bothered about shapi in such a long time, I won't protest when you delete it. Even without any note anywhere. But then in a few year's time, someone may want to re-create this page? -- BhagyaMani (talk) 08:52, 23 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: As per the outcome at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Shapi, or rather the lack of opposition there in combination with a) the existence of a valid former subspecies description and b) lack of current recognition of the subspecies and no good sources for the statements made in Shapi, I have merged a basic note into this article and redirected Shapi to Himalayan tahr.--Elmidae (talk · contribs) 10:20, 31 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion: merge with article about Shapi? 

message: Is there a suitable citation for the following statement under New Zealand/Current control methods?
"The fact that the tahr is no longer viewed by general public as an unwanted species may indicate their numbers are now successfully reduced to an acceptable range"
Noracrentiss (talk) 06:01, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Citation not found for this statement and edits made to the section on New Zealand to add other citations and update with 2020 court case.Gertrude206 (talk) 22:48, 18 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation for a statement? 

message: The article states: "[The Himalayan tahr's] short legs allow it to balance while reaching for the leaves of shrubs and small trees." The citation given, reference 10, is an archived page on an ungulate-dedicated website which does not actually corroborate the claim made in our article. It mentions both that the tahr's legs are relatively short and that its diet contains leaves, but does not itself connect these facts. TheOwlGuy (talk) 12:20, 23 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diet section makes statement unsupported by given reference
Talk:The Sandman: Brief Lives

message: The quotations are taken from The Sandman: Brief Lives, and are copyright 1992-93 DC Comics.
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as i mentioned somewhere on meta - i'm a bit uncomfortable with this entry just being directly under "Brief Lives", since there's a different famous book of the same title, a classic work of biography by Aubrey. I was thinking of moving all the sandman books to be subpages of Sandman, then noticed some references in some places to subpages being Bad and possibly Obsolescent. can someone clarify? are subpages Bad, or Good? should i use them in this case? any alternative suggestions?
:Slash subpages are wicked ugly. My personal preference if you must disambiguate would be for Brief Lives (Sandman) (or possibly Brief Lives (Gaiman)). Which reminds me, I have to dig out those Sandman books I borrowed ages ago, finish reading them, and return them to their rightful owner(s). --Brion
Yes. Yes, you should. OK - sounds sensible, will rename to Brief Lives (Sandman), pending someone who's read it writing something about Aubrey's Brief Lives :). --AW
::OK, I put up a page for Aubrey's Brief Lives. I made sure that no Sandman stuff links to that page now. Anything else I need to do?  --12.64.12.230 20:17, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I had a Wikipedia + Sandman attack (of the worst kind). Any feedback on the recent Chapter summaries? Shall they continue in their present form, cease completely, or continue, albeit modified? A1437053 05:11, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Finished. But it may need editing and maybe reducing of information. Tried to be as faithful and exhaustive as possible. Zuracech lordum 20:16, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Chapter Summaries

message: I've created a proposal to reorganize the Sandman articles by story arc instead of by trade paperback. My full proposal and discussion on the issue can be found at Talk:The Sandman (Vertigo)#Reorganize storylines.--Marcus Brute (talk) 00:12, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reorganize storylines

message: I would just like to say that I think the current level of detail is just about perfect. It enabled me to find the precise page I was looking for in very short order and should not be shortened.
--Tyr 155.245.20.34 (talk) 15:38, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too long / overly detailed summaries?
Talk:Brief Lives

message: Removed redirect to Brief Lives (Sandman) --PRiis 20:24, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled User Comment

message: I notice far more is written on Brief Lives in a section - where there is a Main Article direct tag - of the article on John Aubrey than in this article itself. Much could be copied over from that article, in some cases moved completely. It gives far more insight into the work that went into this collection, with highlit comments on some of Aubrey's subjects.Cloptonson (talk) 17:02, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Not quite a comprehensive article
Talk:Lamia (disambiguation)

message: What is Lamia (plant)? The type genus of Lamiaceae is Lamium. -phma
:Looks like a mistake to me. I don't find any reference to a plant Lamia.  WormRunner 06:47, 1 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plant? 

message: The following request to move a page has been added to Wikipedia:Requested moves as an uncontroversial move, but this has been contested by one or more people. Any discussion on the issue should continue here. If a full request is not lodged within five days of this request being contested, the request will be removed from WP:RM.  —Stemonitis 13:11, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Firstly, that redirection was performed by you at about the same time you made the request. Secondly, I see no evidence that the mythological figure is the primary meaning. Determining primary usage is almost always a community process, because any individual is biased by his or her knowledge and experience. That means it can almost never be an uncontroversial move. --Stemonitis 13:11, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

text: *Yes, redirection was performed by me, so what? Second, if you've seen no evidence that the mythology figure is the primary meaning then you haven't bothered to look at the pages in question or any other evidence at all. Look at the list of terms, do a Google search, do whatever, there's Lamia the mythological character and then there are extremely minor references all based upon it. To call this controversial without even looking to see if there is indeed any is a complete waste of time. DreamGuy 16:04, 11 August 2007 (UTC)

text: *Actually, the top google hit  for this, after filtering out Wikipedia, is the Keats poem. Second is the place in Greece. I agree with Stemonitis that this is not so obvious as to be uncontroversial. older ≠ wiser 12:38, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Contested move request
Talk:Star of India

message: Primarily a museum ship, Star of India is the world's oldest ship that is still sea-worthy.
:What about the USS Constitution? --Brion
Additionally, it's unclear to me why Star of India and Euterpe (ship) are separate articles. --Brion 17:12 Sep 2, 2002 (PDT)
It's also unclear why this article is separate from the Star of India (ship) article. Perhaps all three should be merged together? Also, what about the sapphire, which doesn't seem to have its own page? --dcsohl
:Looks like some accidental semi-duplication - Star of India should be disambig, Star of India (ship) the article, and Euterpe (ship) a redir. Stan 22:22, 29 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Leonard P. Zakim Bunker Hill Memorial Bridge

message: I'm surprised that there is no mention of the safety defects in the bridge's design and construction.
* Big Dig officials acknowledge structure flaw in Zakim Bridge
* iSite Monitoring for Zakim Bridge
** Archived copy of the above
I'm not sure that either of those links fully describe all of the voids found in the bridge's poured concrete.
AHMartin (talk) 15:39, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting.  I suppose you can edit the article, yes? - Denimadept (talk) 18:39, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Design/construction defects 

message: Let's bring the discussion here.  The Nazi reference from the Boston Globe seems like a legitimate citation for this, to me. - Denimadept (talk) 22:11, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Where is this Boston Globe reference. The link looks like it is from Boston.com sort of but it is not it is from Change.org. I thought it was a boston.com reference originally but then realized when I clicked the link that is was just the petition page not a reliable source. If I am missing the link please provide it. XFEM Skier (talk) 22:20, 26 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, sorry.  I misread it. - Denimadept (talk) 00:36, 27 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming and Nazis 
Talk:The Sandman: The Kindly Ones

message: isnt this comic book the first one in series, when some hero from some other serie merge into sandman? i was pretty surprised by this... --Have a nice day. Running 02:51, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: merging from another comic books

message: The page had said that the Kindly Ones followed up a story set up in Doll's House and A Game of You.  I have changed the reference of A Game of You to Brief Lives, which I think is what was meant to be referenced in the first place.  The Orpheus plot is not mentioned (at least not at any length) in A Game of You, but it is a huge part of Brief Lives.  --8.11.254.188 (talk) 20:10, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  References to prior Sandman books 

message: I've created a proposal to reorganize the Sandman articles by story arc instead of by trade paperback. My full proposal and discussion on the issue can be found at Talk:The Sandman (Vertigo)#Reorganize storylines.--Marcus Brute (talk) 00:12, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reorganize storylines

message: I think the "Frank McConnell" link on this page links to the wrong Frank McConnell.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.241.240.122 (talk) 13:42, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frank McConnell
Talk:Destiny (DC Comics character)

message: Is it actually known what sex Destiny is? -- Tarquin
Yes. Check the start of Season of Mists, where there's a set of short biogs of the Endless (useful resource for this bit). Destiny is referred to as "he" and "him"; compare Desire, for whom both pronouns are used. --AW
In the series Lucifer by Mike Carey, Destiny is shown talking to Lucifer. Both seem to have a contempt for each other, where Lucifer favors chaos and freedom, and Destiny favors order and control. Lucifer seems to be less powerful than Destiny, as even Lucifer is bound by Destiny's book.
"it could be said that Destiny existed before even God did."
Unbased speculation  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.210.25.207 (talk) 23:06, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:The Sandman: Dream Country

message: The quotation is taken from The Sandman: Dream Country, and is copyright 1990 DC Comics. --AW
I disagree with the following paragraph:
The third collection belongs with the sixth, Fables and Reflections and the eighth, Worlds' End. All three are not primarily single coherent storylines that contribute to the series' main story arc, but sets of disparate, self-contained issues which belong with the main series by virtue of the shared characters. 
I would argue  that The Sandman has no main story arc, since the Dreaming (and by consequence, Dream himself) are just devices to tell whatever story Gaiman had in his head at the time, much like the Guide in Douglas Adams' The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy However, those that believe there is a main story arc usually say that the main story arc is the one involving  Orpheus' death at the hand of Morpheus, the "death" of Daniel and Lyta Hall's vengeance on Dream as the Kindly Ones. If this is indeed the main story arc referred to, then I would argue that both Fables and Reflections and World's End do indeed contribute to the series' main story arc. Without consulting the collections in question, I can tell you that "Three Septembers and a January" from Fables and Reflections includes a panel where Desire threatens to "bring the Kindly Ones down on Dream's blasted head." The entirety of Worlds' End is based around a reality storm, which, if you refer to the collection The Kindly Ones you will see that the reality storm is felt as a consequence of the conflicting destinies created by the indeterminate outcome of Dream's conflict with the Dirae. --Misfit 20:50, 8 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Isn't Robin Goodfellow a Puck instead of a Hobgoblin?
:No. Puck, the character from Midsummer Night's Dream, is also called Robin Goodfellow. He's not "a Puck". --Pentasyllabic 16:09, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Puck

message: I've created a proposal to reorganize the Sandman articles by story arc instead of by trade paperback. My full proposal and discussion on the issue can be found at Talk:The Sandman (Vertigo)#Reorganize storylines.--Marcus Brute (talk) 00:11, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reorganize storylines
Talk:The Sandman: Season of Mists

message: The comment about Lucifer's line probably being the funniest in the series is POV, and it's also wrong. Everyone knows the funniest line in the series is in Brief Lives (though I haven't decided which line it is yet).
:It is pretty funny, though. --Sir Ophiuchus 02:11, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lucifer

message: I've created a proposal to reorganize the Sandman articles by story arc instead of by trade paperback. My full proposal and discussion on the issue can be found at Talk:The Sandman (Vertigo)#Reorganize storylines.--Marcus Brute (talk) 00:11, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reorganize storylines

message: I've added to the article the face that the Norse Gods make their first appearance in Seasons of Mist. This fact being explained by Neil Gaiman himself in the afterword of The Absolute Sandman vol. 2. Also I've added The Absolute Sandman vol. 2 to the reference list.
Sharktank89 (talk) 00:15, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: First Appearance
Talk:The Sandman: Fables & Reflections

message: I've created a proposal to reorganize the Sandman articles by story arc instead of by trade paperback. My full proposal and discussion on the issue can be found at Talk:The Sandman (Vertigo)#Reorganize storylines.--Marcus Brute (talk) 00:11, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reorganize storylines
Talk:The Sandman: The Wake

message: Nice work on the Sandman story-arc, but do we really need lines like "And the moral of the story is..." at the end of every paragraph? These stories don't have a moral, they're not preachy. Also, there are many ways in which they can be interpreted. If there are no objections, I'll remove those sentences. May-hem 17:02, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interpretation 

message: I've created a proposal to reorganize the Sandman articles by story arc instead of by trade paperback. My full proposal and discussion on the issue can be found at Talk:The Sandman (Vertigo)#Reorganize storylines.--Marcus Brute (talk) 00:12, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reorganize storylines

message: In the story with the wise man looking for the lost kitten, I had assumed it was the reborn Dream in the tent, because in every appearance of Morpheus his text is always in a black speech bubble. I'm less certain after having read this page, but I'm still near-certain that it's the reborn Dream he encounters after he crosses the bridge, as he's not only speaking in white bubbles but has white robes and hair. 59.167.42.220 (talk) 11:37, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which Sandman?
Talk:Carloman (mayor of the palace)

message: Carloman "gave up" his mayoralty to his son before leaving for Rome, but there is no indication he intended to give up public life for the cloister. Fouracre suggests that his "choice" was "influenced" by a papacy amenable to the ambitious Pepin's interests. Carloman's raising Childeric to the throne may have been an attempt to check Pepin's ambitions: the two brothers were not, by all indications, on good terms from the get-go. Notice, too, how Pepin imprisoned an innocent monk just calling for peace in 753 and kept him in confinement until his death! Srnec (talk) 05:40, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Note on recent alternatives

message: Can someone knowledgeable add some accurate family data? 207.98.195.107 (talk) 22:11, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Family
Talk:Racial segregation

message: Before and during the troubles, Northern Ireland was segregated between catholics and protestant communites (altho that was not a religious segregation but an ethnic one) I believe it's logical to mention it, as it was ethnic segregation The basque savior (talk) 14:06, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should Northern Ireland be included ? 

message: I think we should add "colloquially called “apartheid”,... " because this term is more used by general public for describing any racial segregation conflict, like the Israel's cases. -GogoLion (talk) 05:46, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: One basic problem. Apartheid was not limited to "institutionalised racial segregation", it was a policy of political, social, and economic domination of a majority population by a minority population. Minoritarianism in practice. Dimadick (talk) 14:26, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colloquial term
Talk:Joan of Arc

message: * Omit, per above. Nightscream (talk • contribs) 04:19, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Omit. She is obviously unreliable per above. CharlieEdited (talk) 12:25, 30 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Keep or omit the Dworkin material?

message: Nightscream's concerns raised are in italics.
*1. I'm AGREEING with you by adding the source YOU presented on the talk page.
: I appreciate that you see the value of this source. When I reworked the previous edit you added, I tried to incorporate the point of your inclusion into the reworking, mentioning that this rationale is supported by statements attributed to Joan.  I think we are getting close to agreement and I think your reworking this makes this section stronger.
*2. The sources here I'm removing DO NOT SAY what you claim that do. Policy is clear on this.
: I think this is where we may differ.  The reason for the edit that was reverted is that this view is not attributable to a single scholar, but more of a consensus issue. During the FAR review, we went over the sourcing fairly thoroughly. However, :I do appreciate this conversation because it makes me reconsider the sources: moving some, adding some, and deleting some.  There are convenience links to each citation, but I'll put the relevant quotes to the current set in a collapsible section so that you and other interested editors may consider their relevance. Perhaps some are stronger than others.
:What I've been trying to capture here is that this conclusion is not just from Pernoud, but a consensus of multiple sources. Pernoud does not need to be mentioned in the main text, she is in the citations, one opinion amongst many.
*3. If you look at the diff, there is LESS TEXT in your version, not mine. What is the issue here?
:I'm not sure length is relevant here.  Once we agree that what needs to said is said succinctly, we should be set. Wtfiv (talk) 17:38, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply to concerns raised in edit summary of recent reversion