Talk:Bermuda shorts

message: Wayne Homer goes, no backup for the inclusion. LeeG 17:48, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wayne Homer - who?

message: Shouldn't it be "deemed inappropriate"?
I think "deemed appropriate" is correct. Usually long trousers are formal bussiness wear. On Bermuda, shorts are acceptable. makes perfect sense.
This article would really benefit from a photo. Andybuckle 09:21, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good thinking. I’ve added the  template for you. --Rob Kennedy 22:17, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Photo already on article when checked in 2009, have removed template from talk page. Mabalu (talk) 10:22, 25 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Appropriate?

message: The upper photo is of cargo shorts, not Bermuda shorts. Should it be removed or replaced with a correct photo?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.196.230.155 (talk) 14:49, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Inaccurate Photo

message: Where i live, bermudas are like shorts but end bellow the knees, shorts end above the knees (and short shorts end above the middle of the thighs). --TiagoTiago (talk) 05:28, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Above the knees or bellow the knees? 

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message: The article has been edited to reverse the usual explanation that Bermuda shorts were brought to Bermuda by the army (only becoming nominally Bermudian due to Americans associating them with Bermuda, similarly to the Mediterranean crabgrass, as Bermudians refer to it, known in the United states as "Bermuda grass") so that Bermuda gave the shorts to the army:
"The invention of Bermuda shorts is attributed to native Bermudian and tea shop owner Nathaniel Coxon, who in 1914 hemmed the uniform pants of his employees allowing for more comfort in the heat. The British Army, stationed in Bermuda during World War I, adopted the shorts for wear in tropical and desert climates."
This seems far-fetched. Bermuda shorts, connoting reasonably smart short trousers, whether historically cut below the knee or today cut just above the knee, worn with knee socks and usually (though not necessarily) smart shoes, a collared shirt and tie, and with or without a blazer, were already associated with school-aged (particularly primary-school aged) boys in Britain and elsewhere before the First World War, and soldiers took to wearing shorts in a disconnected manner at various locations remote from oversight and where matters of adherence to uniform regulations came second to more practical concerns, during, and doubtlessly before, the First World War, but not in garrisons such as Bermuda. The warm weather uniform was not officially modified to include shorts until well after the war, and photographs of soldiers in Bermuda do not show shorts being worn 'til the late 1920s at the earliest. In conservative Bermuda, they were not as widely or quickly accepted as is often made out, and would not have been considered proper attire to wear to church services or other formal functions 'til recent decades. Even today, they are most popular in Bermuda with expatriates. The army did not adopt shorts as an official item of dress under the influence of Bermudians after the First World War, and certainly did not do so unofficially in various hot locales around the world during the First World War. That assertion smacks of wishful thinking. Aodhdubh (talk) 19:17, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nathaniel Coxon