Talk:Cornus

message: I question the accuracy of this statement recently added:
:It is called "dog" because of its deemed uselessness to human (not edible or lumber).
Dogwood was a highly prized wood for making the shuttles of looms; for tool handles, and other items that required a very hard and strong wood. Pollinator 12:34, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It's from OED. Dogwood's etymology says, "see dog-tree". Dog-tree says "see Dog-berry". Dog-berry says "See dog, definition 21". And Definition 21 says "applied to plants...unworthy to humans..inedible...". Etymology doesn't always (or usually) makes sense. That's why I intentionally used the adjective "deemed". It's an antiquated POV. --Menchi 19:34, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting...thanks. Pollinator 00:02, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Two reputable sources I checked give the derivation as from dag wood, a dag being a wooden skewer, as in a dagger - MPF 22:16, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

text: Hmm. I suspect that entire sentence is a long-standing joke (playing on dog/bark). The source given does mention blossoms, berries and bark, but I wouldn't consider the bark very distinctive. The flowers are distinctive, as are torn leaves. Plantdrew (talk) 16:31, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Menchi posed this question on the page. I moved it here, at least temporarily: It is (ususually?) beetle-pollinated.
:I have been curious about dogwood pollination for many years. The flowers are typically very barren of any insect activity, so it must yield little nectar. In many years I have never seen a beetle on a dogwood blossom, so it must also be pollen-poor. Rarely, I see andrena bees and skippers visit the blossoms. Once (and it was notable because it was only once in many years of observation) I saw a honeybee working the blossoms. It could well be that they are self fertile and maybe even self pollinating, considering the rarity of insect activity. I will continue to watch (they are blooming right now). Pollinator 13:48, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Any possibility it could be night-flying insects? - MPF 22:16, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

text: My question is not whether dogwood is bettle-pollinated, but if it's usually so. It does happen. Biology of Plants by Raven et al (6th ed) says "The flowers of beetle-pollinated plants are either large and borne singly...or small and aggregated in an inflorescene, such as those of dogwoods, elders, spiraeas, and many species of the parsley family." (page 531). I have flowering dogwoods in my neighbourhood but almost never seen any beetles here. So I cannot attest to frequency of such pollination either. --Menchi 06:33, 18 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Pollination

message: Some fool has turned Dogwood into a disambiguation page, in order to accomodate some punk band in LA. Thus ever reference to a dogwood will have to be linked as Dogwood (plant). Too many twelve-year olds at Wikipedia. --16:30, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed wholeheartedly. Let's get it put back, a.s.a.p. I'll do what I can, but suspect it'll need admin assistance. - MPF 16:38, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not "promotion", my intent was not vandalism, and attacks against my age are childish. Dogwood (the band) should be included in Wikipedia, as they are a very influential Christian punk band.  It seemed to me that the best way to add the band would be by adding a stub band page, adding a disambig page, fixing the link to the plant, and then fleshing out the band page.  I apologize if I was wrong in these steps, but there's no need to be rude. Jpers36 17:34, 16 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, you were wrong. The simple fact is that the term "dogwood," used to mean a plant, is much more common than the same word, used to mean a Christian punk band -- no matter how influential you say it is. By the way, Jpers36, I checked out your page on the band, and you might want to include a few more sources if you want people to actually believe that the band is influential. You can't just write that and hope that people believe it. (Also, a quick grammatical note for Jpers36: commas and periods are always placed inside of quotation marks.) ask123 19:27, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ridiculous move

message: The Australian dogwood- is not, as far as I can tell, a dogwood, it's an Acacia or something very similar.--nixie 11:00, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Acacia

message: The dogwood trees have a brownish green leaf appearence as if they are dying, also looks as if bugs are eating on them. What would be good to treat and try and save these trees.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.250.87.252 (talk) 14:04, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  discolored leaves 

message: Dogwood is not a proper noun. It should be lowercased throughout.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joeyharrison (talk • contribs) 23:12, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization problem 

message: "Some dogwoods produce larger fruits than others, and some are tasty and some are not. The fruits of our native flowering dogwood, Cornus florida, are not poisonous, but they do not have a very pleasing flavor. The Chinese dogwood, Cornus kousa, has spherical fruits about the size of a quarter. When ripe in midsummer, they turn coral red and develop their full flavor and sweetness, with a flavor comparable to some melons. The cornelian cherry, Cornus mas, produces a tart, elongated fruit with a hard pit in the middle and a thin layer of flesh. These bright red fruits are sometimes used to make preserves, jam, or jelly with a flavor similar to cherries."
source: www.usna.usda.gov/Gardens/faqs/dogwoodfaq2.html -96.233.30.86 (talk) 02:22, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can I eat the red fruits of dogwoods? 

message: I'm sorry but I just don't think this "Christian Legend" section belongs here at all. I don't think it satisfies the standards of verifiability. The two sources sited are just some peoples' web pages. No academic sources are sited. Nothing written by a historian, or even a theologian or professor of Christian literature. For all we know, this is just another story that gets sent around as an email forward. I mean seriously, for us to entertain the idea that this be even considered a legend, shouldn't there be some evidence that this story even existed lets say 200 years ago. And I'm being lenient with 200 years considering Jesus died over 2000 years ago. Would someone with more Wikipedia experience than I have consider deleting it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Freespeechpatriot (talk • contribs) 04:33, 4 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christian Legend part should be removed 

message: It would be nice to have pictures and discussion to distinguish dogwood from forsythia. Yes, I know this is incredibly ingnorant, but at this time of the year, I am realizing that the confusion is really common. Will post the same at forsythia. DavidOaks (talk) 00:54, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  pictures for distinction 

message: I'm wondering why dogwoods are common in the southeastern USA, but I have not seen one at all in California.  Do they need a lot of water or is there  another reason the tree is not in coastal California?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.131.20.229 (talk) 05:07, 8 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There are several species of dogwoods (genus Cornus) native to California. You have to be in the right habitat to find them-there are large parts of the state without native dogwoods, including, generally, the drier habitats (Central Valley, deserts, much of southern California). Cornus nuttallii and Cornus sericea are 2 examples. 47.208.147.40 (talk) 01:21, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dogwood locations 

message: I propose this page be renamed to Cornus. To me it is clear this page would fit better there. I'm also proposing the following move to make room for this page: Cornus → Cornus (disambiguation) --MCEllis (talk) 14:08, 24 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The current, updated genus for dogwood is Benthamidia. I suggest a change. 152.10.249.208 (talk) 15:17, 13 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed move to [[Cornus]]

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