Talk:Chip Berlet

message: This article was substantially cleaned up during the spring, but now it's creeping back to being a mirror site for Berlet's own websites. If Berlet said something worth putting in Wikipedia, it will also be covered in secondary sources, so people should stop putting in stuff sourced only to Berlet. This is particularly the case for Berlet's accusations against public figures, even LaRouche: BLP policy says If you cannot find multiple reliable third-party sources documenting the allegation or incident, leave it out. 55 Gators (talk) 16:08, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It is easy to find third party sources that describe the LaRouchites as antisemitic and anti-Jewish, and LaRouche himself an antisemite, a neofascist, a neonazi, and even a "small time Hitler". It is also easy to find third party sources that describe in detail LaRouche's conviction for financial and tax crimes. That I have written about these facts is itself a fact that is easy to document. What is the issue here?Chip.berlet (talk) 17:24, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: As 55 Gators said, third-party sources are needed to establish the notability of your views. If you wrote that your favorite cookies are chocolate chip - well, Wikipedia doesn't really care. --NeilN talk to me 18:25, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Or more accurately, since this article is about Chip not LaRouche, to show that his views on LaRouche are significant to this article, which I have now done.  TFD (talk) 20:13, 29 October 2014 (UTC)

text: I agree that if someone said something, that we should use secondary or tertiary sources that report it, as was done with the mention of Ralph Nader.  However the claims made about LaRouche are mentioned in Hate Crimes: A Reference Handbook, pp. 88-89, which is already used as a source in the article.  I will therefore restore the text and add this source.  TFD (talk) 18:17, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the citation you used was not from the source per se. It is from a bio of Berlet which appears in the preface, a bio which was probably provided by Berlet. 55 Gators (talk) 19:49, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: A preface "is an introduction to a book...written by the work's author."  No idea why you not consider prefaces to have the same reliability as the books.  Do you have any policies or guidelines?  And who cares where sources get their informaton?  We expect writers of reliable sources to use judgment, fact-checking, double-sourcing, etc.  We ourselves do not do that, but rely on why reliable sources report.  TFD (talk) 21:02, 8 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secondary sources and BLP problems 

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replies: text: good work, BotBrain. GangofOne (talk) 21:59, 21 June 2017 (UTC)
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message: Admitted self-serving request warning:
https://www.crcpress.com/Trumping-Democracy-From-Reagan-to-the-Alt-Right/Berlet/p/book/9781138212497
I have a new edited collection that was just published. :-)
In penance I will go update a few pages that have no connection to me.
--Chip.berlet (talk) 15:45, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: seems to be my week to update bibliographies. I'ved added it to your bibliography article. Doug Weller talk 17:20, 26 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: @Doug Weller  🌹 2607:FB91:D79:3EC:98F1:C7BE:A42A:7384 (talk) 21:11, 30 August 2023 (UTC)

text: @Doug Weller Thanks 2607:FB91:D79:3EC:2819:947A:A6EA:3D44 (talk) 21:00, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Update Request