Talk:List of Mac software

message: There is a big catalogue of windows software that runs on Mac OS inside Parallels Workstation, and a whole lot of X11 apps run on Mac OS with the help of X11. But are they "Macintosh software"? I'd like to suggest that we require listed applications to run directly on Mac OS, i.e. not needing emulators, other OS or other compatibility layer enhancers like X11. We might create another list for those special cases, if anyone is interested. I suggest we make this an official policy here. Anybody disagree?  Peter S. 13:03, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Siuch a policy seems resonable to keep the artricle length managable. Mac applications like the Mac version of OpenOffice.org or Mac version of Gimp which require X11 to run, should be listed in a seperate article on X11 Mac Apps. --Cab88 11:46, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Also, I think there should be a differentiation between OS X applications and "classic" applications. Theshibboleth 06:10, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's important to distinguish between classic applications, which don't run on Mac Intel (imo they shouldn't appear in this article), PPC-only applications, which run emulated on Mac Intel, and Intel/universal which run at full speed on current hardware. Windows applications don't belong to the list of Macintosh software much more than Apple II or PDP-8 applications (to make this clearer, we could rename the article "list of Mac OS software"). Distinction between Cocoa/Carbon, X11, and Java/Swing is less clear, because they can abide by Mac guidelines to some extent. MATLAB (Java/X11) is a good example: not very well integrated, but the Mathworks have tried... Engelec 11:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Policy: No Win apps etc. 

message: There are hundreds, perhaps thousands, of additional applications available for the Macintosh. A whole category (i.e., Business and Finance) is missing. Among these are multiple products from Trendsetter Software: http://www.trendsoft.com You'll find additional products here: http://www.software4mac.com
: Thousands, of course, but this list is limited to applications which have a WP article. Engelec 11:59, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm also wondering why there is no link to Apple's own database at Macintosh Products Guide. Also, can I move the applications called defunct to List of old Macintosh software? Any objections? Connectionfailure 07:56, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, I started List of old Macintosh software and you're welcome to move any application there that can no longer run on the latest intel Macs. If it is no longer produced, but can still run fine, please leave it on this page here. Thanks! Peter S. 15:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  And many more... 

message: Removed PROD.  If you think this should be deleted, I suggest you start an AfD discussion.Klausness (talk) 00:50, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed Deletion 

message: For this article to be useful at all, it should be split between the distinctly different OSes Mac OS X and Mac OS -Halo (talk) 08:51, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The way I understand it, this page contains all apps that still run today on Macs (so, in effect, Mac OS X apps). Anything that doesn't run in the latest OS may be listed at List of old Macintosh software. Enobeno (talk) 23:42, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's my understanding, too.  Since it's been at least a year or two since any new Macintoshes have been able to run pre-OS X software, it would make sense to move all such software to the list of old macintosh software. Klausness (talk) 14:07, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Oppose. I would disagree with the move.  There is a lot of software that is available for both OS X and the old Mac OS, and with your suggested move, that would be appropriate for both lists, creating a lot of needless redundancy.  Also, there will eventually be OS X software that is no longer available, and that should then go to the list of old software.  I think most people would not expect a list called "List of Macintosh Software" to include only obsolete software.  "List of Macintosh Software" is where most wikipedia users would expect to find current software, so that's where current software should be listed. Klausness (talk) 12:31, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: *It wouldn't be redundancy because Mac OS X software is significantly different from Mac OS software - it has a different set of UI guidelines, a different set of widgets, is a different programming environment and the platforms aren't inherently compatible with each other. List of Macintosh Software should be a disambiguation page between the two operating systems. What you're proposing is that the page should be "List of current Macintosh software", except that's not what it's named and isn't anywhere near as useful. By visiting a page called "List of Mac OS X software" I'd expect, well, a complete-ish list of Mac OS X software, and if I visited "List of Macintosh software" I'd expect a complete list of Macintosh software. -Halo (talk) 12:43, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Except that most people don't think of "Macintosh software" as referring to only OS 9 and earlier Macintosh software.  As far as most people are concerned, "Macintosh software" is software that's designed to run on their Macintosh (which is probably running OS X).  There's an argument to be made for merging the list of old macintosh software into the list of macintosh software (in fact, that's what I first suggested in the AfD discussion), but I now think it's worth keeping the lists separate because some people have an interest in historical software.   Klausness (talk) 01:05, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Anything that is just pre-OS X (like Claris Works) is already obsolete. All lists should be merged, with one section for still-supported software and one section for all other software. Althepal (talk) 01:19, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be OK with merging the two lists, too.  But I think having "List of Macintosh software" as the list of obsolete software and "List of OS X software" as the list of current software is a bad idea. Klausness (talk) 11:39, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Just did some cleaning:  Removed dups, red links and the Font Editor section as it had only one bleu entry (and placed Fontographer under Raster and Vector section).  Also, some entries have liecense, some not. Whatever I think it's a good idea too add them as it discourages promotional vandalisme. We just need to get the input homogenized. According to what there is already it would go:
 * NAME - LIECENSE (free/commercial, open source/proprietary ?), EXPLICATION
PS: Please [Ctrl]+[F] before adding a new entry. There were and still are many duplicate entries. I didn't remove all because some do fit under several categories. eg. QuickTime is listed 3 times (did a diff: there are 7 lines of dups now).  － Cy21(talk)  16:37, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Liecense → Homogenize Info 

message: I am looking for software that will take an audio file as input and transcribe the contents into text.  I have been googling unsuccessfully.  What might be available in this category?  I am using both a PP Mac and an Intel Mac.
Thanks,
99.166.121.198 (talk) 00:41, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transcription software (preferably free) seems to be missing from the list 

message: This deserves major cleanup; it should be roughly equivalent to these "Recommended apps for Windows switchers to Mac" articles we see in Mac magazines (though obviously keeping in mind we're an encyclopedia, not a magazine). Inclusion criteria should be determined by lists of "most popular" or "best" Mac apps, as published in reliable sources (avoid sponsored content like the plague). A comprehensive list of all Mac apps would be neither realistic, nor useful, nor very readable. I'll start by cleaning out abandoned and discontinued apps. DFlhb (talk) 11:02, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This list is significantly outdated; there's no clear consensus on inclusion criteria; and I have no idea how to best present this information, or even whether it's useful (compared to a simple Google search, which seems far more useful for any Mac newbie). Given that it only received 2500 views in the past 30 days, and given the amount of effort needed to make it a featured list, I'm leaving it as-is, after just touching the Audio section. These kinds of pages are for people with more free time than me. DFlhb (talk) 12:16, 4 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: Should this page list all macOS/Mac OS X apps, including discontinued ones, or just list current apps? It's slightly unclear, since "current macOS operating systems" implies discontinued early-Mac OS X apps are out. DFlhb (talk) 00:02, 5 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Current" 

message: Hey! There is a software missed. It is MuseScore. Like i have MuseScore in my mac, why would you don't include this?TheRedsAreMarching1223  13:39, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  a software missed by the list