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Talk:Denying the correlative

message: I remember my mind was boggled when I first learned this one - after reading the definition but not the examples, I wondered why it wasn't 'affirming to correlative', or 'arguing from a false correlative' - it's because the correlative already exists, "it's either this or that," and you deny that correlative when you chime in, "or it's something else." So unless I've completely misunderstood this form, a true correlative (a non-fallacious dichotomy) must be introduced, with the fallacy occurring when that correlative is denied by the proposal of additional options.
Is my head the only one that didn't wrap very easily around the term at first? Would it be worth clarifying in the article? 98.246.6.1 (talk) 13:14, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  etymology 

message: The mentioned example ("Policeman: ".. either you stole the money or you didn't, which is it?". Suspect: "... you are assuming that the money really exists....". In the context of the question this is not a valid alternative[1]: regardless of the existence of the money, the suspect either stole it or didn't.") is wrong: The "either ... or" implies exclusivity of "or" (as in: exactly one is true), but in fact, if the money does not exist, both are true (by ), making the "... you are assuming that the money really exists...." a valid point to make. --188.174.98.135 (talk) 23:49, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That too is vacuous... the problem was existential import but I've made it a counter example because a "suspect" (as opposed to a pupil) can almost always take the 5th (as we say in the US).—Machine Elf 1735 08:50, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong example 

message: In this fallacy, it is stated that Denying the Correlative is the opposite of "The false dilemma". When I look at "The false dilemma", it states that it is the opposite of "Argument to moderation". 
If one thing is the direct opposite of another, then the other thing is the direct opposite of the first thing. No?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gnurkel (talk • contribs) 12:10, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opposites?
Talk:Normal good

message: I have removed this list because the list of normal goods, when complete would be so long it would require a whole encyclopdeia to itself:
Normal goods include but are not limited to:
* National-branded foods and products
* Pepsi Cola
* Microsoft and Macintosh computer operating systems
* Macintosh computers
* Dell, IBM, or other major brand computers
* Palm PDAs
* Pocket PCs
mydogategodshat 20:01, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Not to mention the fact that some of these can be come inferior at really high incomes.  Of the top of my head, health care is one of the few goods that is almost always normal.  Jrincayc 13:48, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Require a whole encyclopdeia

message: Can someone please switch around the axes for goods X and Y? It should really be the other way around for consistency. - Sweet Nightmares 22:40, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graph?
Talk:Variations of ordinaries

message: How to deal with compony?  --Daniel C. Boyer 20:13, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: What does throughout mean here?  Normally it means 'reaching the edges of the field'; I'd call that a cross couped voided.  —Tamfang (talk) 06:58, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Very stale conversation here, but for what it's worth, I wouldn't call that a cross voided, nor throughout; I'd call it a cross cottised, and oddly, that seems to be what nearly all of the translations listed on that page call it (they use words that mostly translate as bordered and the like), except for the English one, which is way off. Wilhelm Meis (☎ Diskuss | ✍ Beiträge) 05:42, 1 June 2013 (UTC)
Talk:102 (number)

message: I am a mathematical retard, but as a mathematician and esoteric numerologist I have an obsessional or near obsessional interest in rounded whole number square roots.  If my addition to the article is not of interest to mathematicians and others of the ilk that might look this number up, or if it's been already mentioned in language I don't know, then feel free to cancel my edit or whatever.Slarty1 (talk) 06:02, 20 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: rounded whole number square roots
Talk:Dance in mythology and religion

message: The great majority of this text has been transferred to this page from the Dance article, at the same time as all historical and religious/mythological references were split off into their own separate articles.  The information contained on this page (dated 21. December 2003) is not original material!  This has been plagiarized from Project Gutenberg's online publishing of "Questionable Amusements and Worthy Substitutes" by J.M. Judy by User:Jesus Saves!.  The plagiarism is almost word-for-word in most cases, with little attempt to rework the information.  You can find the full etext at Project Gutenberg: Questionable Amusements and Worthy Substitutes by J.M. Judy  It was originally published by Western Methodist Book Concern in 1904.  
The use of this text is not only quite questionable ethically (plagiarism), scholarly (have we learned anything in the last 100 years... like, duh!?), but probably also legally (copyright infringement).  Read Chapter IV. DANCING (search for "DANCING" to get there quickly), and find out why dancing ranks along with tobacco, drunkenness, gambling and theatre-going as "Questionable Amusements".  Take heart, though, because this very (very, very, very) conservative Christian view believes that reading, social recreation, friendship, travel and home-making are "Worthy Substitutes".  Don't take my word for it, read it yourself.
This user has inserted text from that document in other Wikipedia articles, most notably Tobacco smoking, where it was also removed.
The legality of plagiarizing this material should be thoroughly investigated.  If it is legal it should be properly referenced in the article.  In addition the facts should be thoroughly checked, substantiated, and this should be reflected in the text itself as independant corroboration of the facts.
:Sfdan 21:57, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the book is originally published 99 years ago, it is in Public domain now, hence there is no legal question about plagiate.Mikkalai 09:28, 23 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: However appropriate referencing and citation is still neede. Paul foord (talk) 03:58, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Copied from Dance and non cited sources

message: — Assignment last updated by Cookie7891 (talk) 02:55, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: HUM 202 - Introduction to Mythology
Talk:Free running (sport)

message: Hey, I know this sounds like some silly newbie spoof, but I've just watched a TV documentary about it which included lots of film of guys jumping between, around, and off buildings in a most impressive way.  Also, there's plenty of googleage for it (particularly under its french name) so I really don't think it's a hoax. -- Finlay McWalter 22:40, 21 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  No, really
Talk:Roman Breviary

message: "In the early days of Christian worship, when Jewish custom was followed, the Bible furnished all that was thought necessary, containing as it did the books from which the lessons were read and the psalms that were recited." 
If it means the Tanakh or Old Testament, then I guess this is correct. Otherwise this might violate NPOV and suggest "Sola Scriptura" and is not factually true as the New Testament Canon at that time did not exist. --208.49.131.4 (talk) 15:23, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: Is available on the web at this site.
Rwflammang (talk) 09:29, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Gregory DiPippo's Historical Overview

message: This should be turned into a more or less "regular" Wikipedia article without losing too much of the expert information contained in it. 
The article started out as a copy-paste of the (public domain) Catholic Encyclopedia article (Cabrol 1907). 
This was added in 2007 and pretty much left alone since then.
The 2007 addition of Cabrol's text however left in place material added 2002-2006.
Some of the "strange" material goes back to these early days of Wikipedia when it was common usage to just add 
basic information on a topic without references just to start off a new page.
It should be noted that until 2015, this page was under the title of "Breviary". 
The new page Breviary is an ill-advised stub page created at the time, with no potential to develop 
independently of Liturgical book and Roman Breviary. It should become a disambiguation page, or merged back into either Liturgical book or Roman Breviary. 
--dab (𒁳) 12:24, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyediting
Talk:Gangneung

message: The illustration (flag) used in this article is from the official webpage of Gangneung. There's a © on the page, so I've added the page to Wikipedia:Possible_copyright_infringements. Kokiri 00:24, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks James. :) Martin 23:45, 28 Jan 2004 (UTC)

message: The names here are not in any  Chinese romanizations (Pinyin, Wade, etc): "Gangneung is twinned with the cities of...Jasing and Jingjow in China."  So I assume it was translitered from Hangul directly. I guess they are Jiaxing and Jingzhou respectively. Are there Hanja to confirm this? --Menchi 00:53, 20 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no Chinese characters at hand, but the way the cities are currently (19:02, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chinese placenames 

message: I made a redirect from Kangneung. I'm assuming this is the same city. Maybe we need some more alternative spellings. --Gbleem 20:16, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kangneung 

message: It should be a Gyeongpo lake.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 155.230.23.41 (talk) 14:54, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gangneung lake 

message: The PBS cooking show Kimchi Chronicles just described this place -- what Bordeaux is to red wine, Gangneung is to tofu, and its one of the world's largest tofu producers. (They then went on to cook and taste a number of tofu dishes.) Should the tofu fame be mentioned in the article? --RThompson82 (talk) 00:46, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Tofu

message: The spelling looks like it should be pronounced "gangreung" or "gangleung". Explain?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.79.61.198 (talk) 14:14, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It's difference in writing and reading of Korean language. It is written in "강릉"(Gangreung), but ending ㅇ and starting ㄹ makes it pronouncing "강능"(Gangneung).— Revicomplaint? 14:52, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gangneung vs Gangreung? 
Talk:Blues Ain't No Mockin Bird

message: Does anyone think "black" sounds bad? --Merovingian 04:27, Dec 22, 2003 (UTC)
No, stop being an idiot.  Is "white" going to start sounding bad too?--75.5.11.182 (talk) 17:40, 16 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Billy Beer

message: I find a "several billion" figure fairly unbelievable; I changed it to million. - Hephaestos 05:18, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Other

message: does anyone know what it tastes like? did it fail because it tasted bad or because of the advertising?
Probably tasted like any other macro lager.  Bland and tasteless.
Answer: I had an unopened case of Billy Beer and last year (April 2011) while camping with friends and family we all drank a can of 30+ year old beer on a group dare. We all agreed that it tasted almost identical to Newcastle Brown Ale. It had the same color, carbonization, texture, smell, and to our amazement even tasted like it (even ended up doing a blind taste test between the two). However none of us that tried it, ever had a Billy Beer when it first came out because we are all in our mid-30’s, but for the cans that are still around these days it does taste like a Newcastle Brown Ale. None of us (11 males in total) got sick in anyway from drinking the 30+ year old beer. J. Pearson  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.4.186.80 (talk) 09:15, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  each brewery supposedly used a different formular.  I tried Falls City Beer at about the same time they made Billy.  The Falls City wasn't very good, kind of cheap, and I think the Billy was probbaly the same. --Hanover81 01:12, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  taste 

message: Can somebody explain the meaning of the last sentence in the first paragraph? Or maybe rewrite it to make it clearer.
All of the cans are equally common.
Cunningpal 10:41, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This beer is ''so'' common ! 

message: When did production of this beer stop? Was it tapered off or did it stop all at once? --Ragemanchoo (talk) 03:32, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 1977 till...?

message: The article makes no specific reference to the fact that the beer is still in existence, merely saying how popular it was for a year and then mentioning something about a new factory, which isn’t clear enough 2600:4041:5CCA:2B00:25BF:F72B:22E5:B176 (talk) 09:59, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status of its existence
Talk:Pelican

message: I'm pretty sure the image of "a 'pelican' wounding its breast to feed its chicks" under the Christianity section is actually a Swan with white doves alongside it. Unless I'm partially blind, that doesn't look like a Pelican at all. 2803:C180:2602:D638:16DE:39FF:FEBF:BE9D (talk) 07:49, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The pelican wounding itself to feed its young is a common medieval Christian and esoteric symbol, the problem is, many artists had probably never seen a pelican before. So I agree it doesn't look like a pelican, but it's intended to be one. Pyrrho the Skipper (talk) 14:23, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swan image
Talk:Ytterbium

message: Article changed over to new Wikipedia:WikiProject Elements format by mav 06:40, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect :Ytterbium dodecaboride and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 May 21#Ytterbium dodecaboride until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  1234qwer1234qwer4 15:01, 21 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Ytterbium dodecaboride" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]
Talk:Our Posthuman Future

message: This is the name of a book referenced in transhumanism.
: I think that matter is resolved, now that we have a moderate superstub for the book itself. -- Finlay McWalter 01:02, 27 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ah, I see it temporarily became unresolved, and then pleasantly reresolved.  Such is life. -- Finlay McWalter 01:23, 27 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do not redir to transhumanism - creates self-link.  
Talk:Nancy Huston

message: Can you provide the source for your comment on Quebec's reaction to her winning the Governor General award? It seems to me that it is based on heresay and bad journalism, which is rather common for all things relating to Quebec in English. -- Mathieugp 07:06, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: The controversy is mentioned in The Oxford Companion to Canadian Literature, Second Edition (p. 565).--Victoriagirl 17:35, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "bad journalism, which is rather common for all things relating to Quebec in English"? In the French Wikipedia, Huston got a category putting her to Quebec, which is pure nonsense. 
"Catégories : Écrivain canadien francophone hors Québec". The Wikipedians of the Latin Wikipedia are following them. Huston has nothing to do with Quebec but my French is not good enough to clear the facts on their discussion page. --13Peewit (talk) 23:35, 28 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: It says that the author has '25 fiction publications' of which 13 are original works and 11 are her translations of her own work. I don't know how the numbers work out in French, but in English that's only 24 books. 67.220.13.11 (talk) 13:36, 10 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Bad Math?

message: Why on earth does the article say "period: 21st century" when most of her work is from the 20th century??
I didn't change it because maybe there is a rationale I don't get, but absent clarification I guess I'll correct it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.74.30.118 (talk) 18:48, 24 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Period?
Talk:Music history of the United States in the 1980s

message: Just a few suggestions:
The grunge movement and subsequent death of said movement deserves more coverage than a couple of sentences. A form of music that changed the entirety of rock forever deserves heavy coverage. 
Also, Korn is not widely accepted as a rapcore band. Nü-metal, yes. Rapcore, not so much.
There is also a large lack of mention of the "mall-goth" musical styles, with Marilyn Manson hardly being mentioned. I'm not a big Manson fan, but he is extremely popular and at least deserves mention on that part. 
And as somebody else noticed, the punk rock section is missing a lot of information. Glossing over some of the most important musical contributions just doesn't seem right somehow.
==2000s==
This section seems just about completely wrong (as well as only covering rock). REwrite anyone? Rmhermen 00:56, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestions

message: This section seems just about completely wrong (as well as only covering rock). REwrite anyone? Rmhermen 00:56, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 2000s

message: This section is largely a mess.  Aside from early Husker Du, nothing here is punk rock.  Additionally, heavy metal is discussed in the section a lot.  It seems like this section should be about alternative rock and the legacy of punk but it really doesn't convey the point effectively.  WesleyDodds 09:30, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punk rock 

message: Los Angeles Electroclash? in the 1980's? This writer seems pretty confused...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.234.153.158 (talk) 03:53, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Electroclash

message: In my opinion, it would be best to merge all of the content in this article into this article,  this article and this article, since we do not need two different articles which would cover the exact same topic in detail. What do you think? TheCuriousGnome (talk) 01:29, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal 
Talk:Chief Justice of Canada

message: I moved this page because titles are always capitalized (e.g. Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, not Prime minister...). --Jiang 09:42, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Last will and testimony 198.166.206.223 (talk) 03:19, 25 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edwin H Wiebe,
Talk:Chen Cheng

message: I think it is great that this article has so much pre-Taiwan material, but I suspect that Chen Cheng is best known as the first head of the Taiwan Provincial Government and the Taiwan Garrison Command. And, of course, for his role in initiating the martial law era. As such, I think this section deserves more attention. It would be great if somebody interested could contribute some additional material; there's a bit in the Chinese-language version of this article already. Otherwise I can dig up some additional info myself for discussion. Cheers to all fellow China/Taiwan history buffs.
Wiggin01 (talk) 16:51, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Taiwan and Martial Law Era

message: Shouldnt this be at Chen Cheng since that's what the media uses? --Jiang 10:11, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Chen Tsyr-shiou was official, but it apparently has fallen out of use nowadays. Move away. --Menchi (Talk)â 10:20, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Bourne End, Buckinghamshire

message: I suggest adding extra subheadings:-
Notable residents 
To include the existing section on Enid Blyton and others
Transport
To include the section on the Railways. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Mariegriffiths (talk • contribs) 23:53, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to add it yourself.  Be bold! -- Roleplayer 19:23, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extra Sub Headings Suggestion
Talk:Coolangatta Estate

message: Hi, your Wesleyan link goes to the Wesleyan Disambig page, so I piped it to "Methodism." Feel free to pipe it to something else if I mis-interpreted the usage.
--Asbestos 01:25, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This article currently combines an historical article about the Estate (as developed by Alexander Berry and his successors) and a modern day resort/winery built on a small fraction of what was the original estate.  The two really share very few qualities in common, in fact the part on the winery tends to read a bit like an advertisement, and the links to the winery site and the self-published book aren't particularly reliable sources in terms of history.  In my opinion they should be separate articles, one for the historical development of the site, and one for the present day resort if deemed sufficiently notable. Any other opinions?  --Inas66 (talk) 03:42, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  History or Winery?
Talk:AD 9

message: It should be more explicitly said that the Battle of Teutoburg Wood occurred in 9. Andres 10:42, 22 Dec 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Battle of Teutoburg Wood

message: ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:56A:F390:2A00:E8F1:EA75:5EF0:DBED (talk) 21:04, 19 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we reference the pukicho post?