Talk:Old Brown Shoe

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replies: text: Added/updated FU rationale. — John Cardinal 03:27, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:BalldofJohnandYoko singlecover.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Balladofjohnandyokocover.jpg

message: Although Harrison claimed to have performed the bass part in his CREEM interview, Ian MacDonald says in Revolution In The Head  (p. 347) that Paul McCartney plays bass on the track. As most articles on specific Beatles songs rely on MacDonald's text for personnel, I believe it should be left as such. Here is the previous version of the article: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Old_Brown_Shoe&oldid=479399925 Derekgbolton (talk) 21:31, 29 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If Harrison says he played the bass, then he played it; he was there, MacDonald wasn't. Radiopathy •talk•   23:45, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

text: Lennon claimed in his Playboy interview that he wrote Two Of Us, but it's still accepted that McCartney wrote it and the page on the song reflects that. What I've read from Ian MacDonald and Mark Lewisohn, they both list McCartney as having played bass. With a lot of the bitterness that arose after their break-up, I tend to trust the leading Beatles historians over some of the claims they made about/toward each other. Harrison said that twenty years after the song was recorded. He may have been mistaken about a previous demo, or maybe he did play it. In the interest of keeping this article accurate, I feel it is better to cite texts than verbal claims. Additionally, if you read about the Beatles recording session on April 16th, 1969 it says that McCartney and Harrison added bass and electric guitar overdubs on track six doubling up the same riffs. It would be logical to assume that McCartney played bass and Harrison played guitar, though it isn't stated who plays which. If Harrison did play bass, then McCartney would probably be credited with playing guitar, but I've only seen one instance where he is, which was edited based on Harrison's claim to having played the bass part. Derekgbolton (talk) 11:00, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm surprised to hear/read you say that "most accounts" suggest McCartney's "She Said She Said" walkout and Harrison's commandeering of the bass for that track was some sort of payback for the "Taxman" solo. I've read no end of material about the Revolver sessions, and maybe I've come across a writer speculating on this (it rings a bell, vaguely), but "most accounts" ... really? MacDonald altered the "She Said" credits for his final revised edition, btw. JG66 (talk) 13:30, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bass Dispute 

message: I have also seen a lot of disputes about the Organ-some sites say it was George Harrison and others say that Billy Preston played organ. Honestly, I don't know which site to believe, so I am not going to edit the "band lineup" section and will just leave that section "as-is" unless I find out for certain that it was Billy Preston. I know Billy Preston played Hammond organ on "Let It Be" and Fender Rhodes Electric piano on "Get Back" "Don't Let Me Down" and the "Let It Be...Naked" version of  "The Long And Winding Road" but those are different songs altogether.--Kevjgav (talk) 18:22, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who played the Organ, Harrison or Billy Preston? 

message: The sites that say Billy Preston played organ are the same sites that say Paul McCartney played bass. Those sites have the following band lineup: George Harrison (lead vocals, guitar) John Lennon (backing vocals) Paul McCartney (piano, bass, backing vocals) Ringo Starr (drums) Billy Preston (organ) but "The Beatles Bible" has the same band lineup as this article: George Harrison (lead vocals, guitar, bass, organ) John Lennon (backing vocals) Paul McCartney (piano, backing vocals) Ringo Starr (drums) and it appears that George Harrison played organ and Billy Preston didn't record on this song.--Kevjgav (talk) 18:54, 12 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bass and organ were '''both''' played by George Harrison 

message: I don't really trust everything that Ian MacDonald says about the band lineup on Beatles songs because he erroneously showed the following band lineup for this song; George Harrison (lead vocals, guitar) Paul McCartney (bass, piano, backing vocals) John Lennon (backing vocals) Ringo Starr (drums) and Billy Preston (organ) but The Beatles Bible (and all other sites) are consistent with this article: George Harrison (lead vocals, guitar, bass, organ) Paul McCartney (piano, backing vocals) John Lennon (backing vocals) and Ringo Starr (drums) and I think The Beatles Bible is right and that Ian MacDonald somehow made an error.--Kevjgav (talk) 19:17, 15 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  I don't trust all of Ian MacDonald's information 

message: Please stop changing the band lineup to "Paul McCartney on bass." If George Harrison says he played bass in the song then he did.
*George Harrison - Lead vocals, guitars, organ, bass guitar
*Paul McCartney - tack piano, backing vocal
*John Lennon - backing vocal
*Ringo Starr - drums
That's right, so leave it.--Kevjgav (talk) 22:19, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lineup on the track 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for File:George Harrison's guitar solo from "Old Brown Shoe", April 1969.ogg

message: This photo is indeed Brooker, but is not from the Concert for George. In that concert Brooker wore all black and no jacket, unlike this pic Ralphie72 (talk) 00:21, 12 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gary Brooker photo 

message: The mystery of the most mysterious Beatles instrument line-up gets added onto by this. https://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/discussion-the-beatles-old-brown-shoe-paul-or-ringo-on-drums.889603/page-126#post-33456482
Obviously as it's just a forum entry at this point, we can't cite it (hopefully Kenneth Womack will publish it in a book we can cite). But apparently Mal Evans wrote down this line-up:
George Harrison - piano and vocals
John Lennon - guitar
Paul McCartney - bass
Ringo Starr - drums
This makes some sort of sense, since George wrote the song on piano and it's the driving instrument. On the other hand, there is no bass on Take 2, which means it was overdubbed later - begging the question why Paul sat out the basic track and also why George would later claim it's him on bass. But at least it's another source for Ringo on drums. Jules TH 16 (talk) 10:15, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Line-up according to Mal Evans' diary