Talk:Sonora Matancera

message: The expression "salsa" for Cuban music was invented long after the group was created, so it is a bit misleading to have it mentioned as the only comment on the group's style. ROGNNTUDJUU! 14:12, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
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message: There are two other matters I would like to address. For one, I feel that the photograph of Celia Cruz which accompanies the article is not appropriate because it dates from the 1980s, long after she ceased being a featured lead singer with the collective. There are photos of Celia with the ensemble which are readily available. Any of these would be more appropriate. For another, I also feel that too much importance is attached to the incorporation, if you will, of Celia Cruz into the ranks of the group. Sonora Matancera made Celia famous, not the other way around. As such, I find that it is misleading to have a chapter heading which highlights the addition of Celia Cruz to La Sonora. Yes, Celia was a great vocalist. Yes, she was, without a doubt, the most important female singer to have been a member of the band. Having said that, the fact remains that Celia Cruz is not the most important vocalist, male or female, to have performed and recorded with La Sonora Matancera. Many hold to the opinion that such is the case. I am among those who disagree. Why? What about Bienvenido Granda? What about Daniel Santos? Their contributions, as we say in New York City, are not chopped liver. Alan1-11-195168.173.246.248 (talk) 03:25, 18 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The photos are based on their copyright availability and whether people have uploaded them to Wikimedia Commons] If more photos were available there I would add them. It would be great to have Granda, and a couple of group shots from the fifties. The photo of Celia Cruz in 1980 is currently attached to our section where she recorded two albums with the group in 1980/81. It would be odd to have the 1980 picture anywhere else, and it's the only usable pic of Celia Cruz we have at the moment. As far as the prominence given to Celia Cruz in the article, I would personally rank it as being as almost non-prominent as it is possible to go, considering she is the singer that most sources give preference to, who mention her even when no other singer is mentioned. If sources give her the most prominence, we shouldn't be trying to downplay her involvement because you personally rank other singers higher. I have no problem with documenting all the significant singers, but the weight should be comparable to sources, not personal judgement in the face of sources. You say  This is just silly and a little petty. If Sonora Matancera somehow had the magical ability to "gift" fame on a person, then they should have done the same thing for all of their singers and there'd be no complaints about one singer being more famous than others. Nobody "made" anybody famous here. __ E L A Q U E A T E 20:56, 20 January 2014 (UTC)
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