Talk:History of massively multiplayer online games

message: I would like to help--LizardPariah 06:24, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: History of MMORPGs is a good article, but I don't think it should be a stand alone... Vint 20:24, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed that the original "history" should just have stayed with the article. {Caliah 05:04, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I moved it here as it was so incredibly long in the MMORPG article which is almost GA. I didn't want one section to take up 50% of the article; I was afraid that it could affect the result of the GAC which is currently on hold. Greeves (talk • contribs) 21:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger 

message: I guess the result of the move at the MMORPG article will affect this one. If you would like to participate, please visit Talk:MMORPG#Requested move. Greeves (talk • contribs) 21:50, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: Why was the free MMORPG section removed.  From the article?  It should be mentioned.--65.174.252.12 19:56, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Free-to-play MMORPGs should of course be mentioned, but throwing them all in at the end of the article upsets the chronological organization.  Though a summary paragraph on the state of the free-to-play market would be appropriate there, the introduction of notable free-to-play titles should occur earlier, where chronologically appropriate (as it does for MapleStory). --Beefnut 19:05, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Free MMORPGs?

message: I am wondering which MMORPG was the first to have a USA-wide audience, with players all around the country (was any of the PLATO games truly nation wide?), and which one was the first to be global, with the same server hosting players from many countries? Does anybody know that for sure? I think it is historically important, and the article does not address this. Vincent Lextrait 06:32, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't think there's a way to effectively demonstrate that, since the Internet was global almost from the beginning.  In the commercial MMO space, LOFP had a national/international audience on the 'net when it moved from CompuServe to the Internet as soon as the commercial Internet backbones were added (allowing non-academic uses).  For non-commercial uses, there were plenty of MUDs that predated the commercial backbones but I imagine it would be hard to find a secondary source that could talk about any one of them being the "first" to gain international usage... But I'd love to be wrong! Tarinth 11:44, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nationwide/Global MMORPGs

message: This is the content that was removed from MMORPG, and presumably should be dispersed here. --Beefnut 22:25, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Stored BBMORPG Content

message: I'm probably about to redo a lot of the beginning of the article. Oubliette on PLATO was out before MUD, November of 1977. And Mazewar introduced a graphical virtual game world back in 1973. -- Akb4 00:28, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're doing a major revision to a key point in the history, be sure to update MMORPG#History. Greeves (talk • contribs) 03:40, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: History Incorrect

message: The header says "Massively multiplayer online games", but the article concentrates wholly on the role-playing side of things, no mention of other MMO (non-RPG) games like Air Warrior or World War Two Online.  The title needs to be changed to reflect the content, or, the content needs to be expanded to match the title. John DiFool2 16:46, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title is misleading 

message: Fury is not like gunz, a game that some people say that is a mmorpg but is not??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.79.11.127 (talk) 00:56, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  FUry is mmorpg???

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message: There's been an ongoing dispute on another site, which KentF has been involved in, concerning the categorization of games such as Phantasy Star Online (which he has attempted to label as roguelikes). When this article was linked in the course of the discussion, KentF removed all reference to Phantasy Star Online from the article.
Although I wasn't logged in at the time, I reverted the edit due to the circumstances surrounding KentF's removal of that information. However, he reinstated his changes, labeling my actions "vandalism".
To quote WP:Vandal, any good-faith effort to improve the encyclopedia, even if misguided or ill-considered, is not vandalism. In this case, it's about restoring sourced information that was deleted out of a likely conflict of interest. If this continues, I'll be seeking dispute resolution. —Trev-MUN (talk) 07:45, 20 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits by KentF 

message: The tag was added earlier this year, and removed today.  I don't see any discussion of it here, though it may be discussed at the merge-to point.  I have restored the tag, only VERY WEAKLY oppose its removal at this time, and don't expect to restore it again if it is removed.  I have not yet read the article with an eye toward the tag, and weakly support the merge into the more general RPG article, and assumed the 2 tags were closely related.- Sinneed 17:34, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have any idea what that tag is trying to say, honestly.  The article certainly doesn't seem to be about any specialized aspect, and I have no idea what the tagger was objecting to. —chaos5023 (talk) 18:26, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

text: Oh, I see what you're saying.  That the idea is that the the "real" topic is online RPGs and MMOGs are too specialized a slice of that.  That's an argument, though not one I agree with, but I don't think the tag is a good way to make it.  As long as this article exists, its topic is MMOG history, not ORPG or CRPG history, so the language of the tag is just confusing.  I'd say remove it. —chaos5023 (talk) 18:38, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

text: On the gripping hand, there does seem to be a problem with the article in that its title indicates it's a history of MMOGs but the content sure looks like a history of MMORPGs.  So that seems to need work. —chaos5023 (talk) 18:49, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Generalize tag 

message: There's a section of the article specifically addressing more recent-gen MMOs, especially ones that are focused on graphics. Age of Conan is listed here, detailing especially its problematic launch. Is FFXIV's history between its abysmal launch conditions in 1.0 and its unlikely transformation into a successful MMO with 2.0's A Realm Reborn not a remarkable part of MMO history? 76.184.115.66 (talk) 01:41, 7 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final Fantasy XIV & ARR? 

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message: This article is too focused on the West. Particularly from the 2000s on. DFO was the largest MMO in the world for many years, due to enormous popularity in China. Over its lifetime, it has grossed over $20 billion. Peak concurrent players was 3 million users online. This is more concurrent players than any game on Steam has ever achieved as of May 2023.
Aion at its peak had nearly 5 million subscribers. In 2010 it was said that 1 in 10 people in South Korea played Aion. Even in NA/EU it had over 400,000 preorders on release. 
https://mmos.com/news/dungeon-fighter-online-has-earned-over-15b-in-life-time-sales-highest-grossing-video-game-of-all-time
https://www.gamedeveloper.com/business/the-complexities-of-launching-i-aion-i-
https://www.engadget.com/2010-06-27-looking-back-at-six-years-of-lineage-ii.html DontLikeRedesign (talk) 12:43, 3 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Western Focus