Talk:Campus radio

message: Those interested in this topic may want to look at the new suggested guidelines for inclusion of radio and television stations in Wikipedia. The project is still in its earliest stages. Wikipedia:Broadcasting notability
:NB this guideline is now considered historical cmh 16:01, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Notability

message: This article suffers from a US focus in the preliminaries that then leads to "unlike the US" for all the countries listed. I am going to reorg this page a bit right now, moving the common information to the top, and moving US related material into the US section. I really think this article should be under the title of Campus Radio and not College Radio as the US use of the word College is kind of unique. I would like to hear from people in other countries about whether you call it College radio there. cmh 04:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If there is no debate I will rename this page to Campus radio. cmh 05:36, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Inserting this comment to ping watchlists. Barring any debate I will shortly move. cmh 05:01, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

text: It has now been one week. I am moving the page. cmh 15:37, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Ok, page is moved. Double redirects that were created have been cleaned up. Over time I will be going through the pages that link here to change the links to point directly at this page. cmh 15:59, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Page Title

message: ===Why this is a problem===
An issue has come up at Fusion Radio about whether we should consider Internet Radio stations originating from a university campus to be campus radio stations. My first take on this is to say no, for the following reasons:
* There is a clear phenomenon to be discussed here in the form of traditional campus radio which has a clear definition (through enabling legislation in countries, and generally through official relationships with the campuses in question) and a clear history.
* Just because internet "stations" call themselves "radio" does not make them radio. An internet streaming audio feed is commonly called an "Internet Radio Station" by analogy; analogy does not truly mean these are "radio stations" proper. Therefore, just as Internet Radio is separate from Radio, so should  "Campus Internet Radio" be a topic in its own right, and not mixed in with campus radio.
* I do not question that some internet radio stations adopt a campus radio format. And perhaps that should be added as an article to :Category:Radio formats. But sharing a format doesn't make them the same thing either.
* There is a problem with the potential proliferation of Internet Campus Radio stations. What if the University of Foo's engineering society decided to open a series of internet radio channels. Would they all qualify as "campus radio stations"? Would they all qualify for the List of campus radio stations? What about internet feeds maintained for 5 years from the dorm room of a student? Is this too a "Campus Radio Station?" By sticking to "Campus Radio means Traditional Radio" we avoid this issue.
* We are creating an encyclopedia here, and we should try to be deliberate about what means what as we give treatments of established topics. If there is a distinction to be made here — and I think there is — then we should help readers by showing the parallels between radio stations and internet feeds, but not conflate them.
I don't believe we should automatically include all internet audio feeds that happen to originate from university networks or student groups as "campus radio" stations. The clear line in the sand to me, then, is to include none of them... although I am open to suggestion. -- cmh 16:37, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As the person who originally raised the issue, I want to clarify that I'm not strongly wedded to the idea that they be categorized specifically as radio stations; my primary interest is in ensuring that they're categorized in a subcategory of :Category:Student culture (and, in the case of Fusion Radio, a subcategory of :Category:University and college media in Canada). If people think it would be a good idea to have a separate subcategory for "Student internet broadcasting ventures" or something to that effect, I'm entirely fine with that; I just don't agree with removing :Category:Campus radio stations in Canada without a replacement category in place. (And, for the record, I'm not entirely convinced that a campus "radio station" airing solely on Internet streaming audio really merits an encyclopedia article in the first place, but I can't say I feel strongly enough about it to actually take on AFDing them all.) Bearcat 18:38, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I'll buy the Web simulcast from a licensed on-air station as "radio" but if "you ain't on the air, you ain't no-where." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHUS --Copymanwiki (talk) 20:08, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Is 'Internet Radio from a campus' a 'Campus Radio station'?

message: An issue has come up at Fusion Radio about whether we should consider Internet Radio stations originating from a university campus to be campus radio stations. My first take on this is to say no, for the following reasons:
* There is a clear phenomenon to be discussed here in the form of traditional campus radio which has a clear definition (through enabling legislation in countries, and generally through official relationships with the campuses in question) and a clear history.
* Just because internet "stations" call themselves "radio" does not make them radio. An internet streaming audio feed is commonly called an "Internet Radio Station" by analogy; analogy does not truly mean these are "radio stations" proper. Therefore, just as Internet Radio is separate from Radio, so should  "Campus Internet Radio" be a topic in its own right, and not mixed in with campus radio.
* I do not question that some internet radio stations adopt a campus radio format. And perhaps that should be added as an article to :Category:Radio formats. But sharing a format doesn't make them the same thing either.
* There is a problem with the potential proliferation of Internet Campus Radio stations. What if the University of Foo's engineering society decided to open a series of internet radio channels. Would they all qualify as "campus radio stations"? Would they all qualify for the List of campus radio stations? What about internet feeds maintained for 5 years from the dorm room of a student? Is this too a "Campus Radio Station?" By sticking to "Campus Radio means Traditional Radio" we avoid this issue.
* We are creating an encyclopedia here, and we should try to be deliberate about what means what as we give treatments of established topics. If there is a distinction to be made here — and I think there is — then we should help readers by showing the parallels between radio stations and internet feeds, but not conflate them.
I don't believe we should automatically include all internet audio feeds that happen to originate from university networks or student groups as "campus radio" stations. The clear line in the sand to me, then, is to include none of them... although I am open to suggestion. -- cmh 16:37, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As the person who originally raised the issue, I want to clarify that I'm not strongly wedded to the idea that they be categorized specifically as radio stations; my primary interest is in ensuring that they're categorized in a subcategory of :Category:Student culture (and, in the case of Fusion Radio, a subcategory of :Category:University and college media in Canada). If people think it would be a good idea to have a separate subcategory for "Student internet broadcasting ventures" or something to that effect, I'm entirely fine with that; I just don't agree with removing :Category:Campus radio stations in Canada without a replacement category in place. (And, for the record, I'm not entirely convinced that a campus "radio station" airing solely on Internet streaming audio really merits an encyclopedia article in the first place, but I can't say I feel strongly enough about it to actually take on AFDing them all.) Bearcat 18:38, 21 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I'll buy the Web simulcast from a licensed on-air station as "radio" but if "you ain't on the air, you ain't no-where." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WHUS --Copymanwiki (talk) 20:08, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Why this is a problem

message: I think we should proceed with the merger. The proposal is there for the last 4 months. — Ambuj Saxena (talk) 13:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I think you should proceed if you can. -- cmh 14:21, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just did it. FreelanceWizard 00:39, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging [[Campus radio in India]] 

message: I thought it was curious that there are extensive list of college radio stations for so many countries, but not Germany.  Anyone know about the campus radio situation there?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.143.230.1 (talk) 05:11, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Germany? 

message: I've been editing the Canadian section of the article and since there is a substantial amount of information to add, would it not make sense to have a separate page for each country's implementation of Campus Radio? Each country has different laws governing what these stations can do and therefore campus radio has different cultural aspects in every country. Or should we leave it as is? I've also been working on adding references to improve the quality rating of this article. MrsRStark (talk) 18:58, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Campus Radio in Canada 

message: Tried to clean up the US section a bit by removing editorial comments and adding more encyclopedic references. One of the examples cited for a station being taken off the air was removed since the station returned to the air shortly thereafter (according to radio-locator). 70.36.212.48 (talk) 01:34, 31 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup of POV in US section 

message: I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
::This template is not meant to be a permanent resident on any article. Remove this template whenever:
::#There is consensus on the talkpage or the NPOV Noticeboard that the issue has been resolved
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Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 15:06, 15 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  removing POV tag with no active discussion per [[Template:POV]] 

message: This appears to be a plug for that radio, for which CampusRadio24.com returns a "suspended" error, also the Facebook page features Bengali[?] prominently which I cannot read (limiting my ability to offer much more input). Eliminating the entry from the world/Bangladesh section is probably unwarranted, but this particular entry wavers in and out of Wikipedia's guidelines, features no citation, and seems to exist on shaky grounds as it is. If someone who speaks Bengali could clean it up that would be fantastic -- failing that, the wording at least should be changed. Strangejames (talk) 16:33, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: CampusRadio24

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message: The list should be split out or just scrapped, and the article should be refocused on what has been written on college radio.  Here's a recent Pitchfork article.  czar 23:51, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

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message: I can't believe that Spanish Campus Radio aren't here. There are many Spanish Campus Radio. Please, write about it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.94.129.18 (talk) 18:57, 30 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Spanish Campus Radio???? 

message: This article will need trimming for anything that doesn't have a reference. There's a lot that doesn't. So, if you would like not to have something trimmed, please add a reference supporting it. Seraphimblade Talk to me 10:23, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Trimming