Template talk:Modern US Infantry Weapons

message: Can someone find a more recent source to confirm or deny the use of the FN P90? The only source on the P90's page is from 1999 and I can't verify it anywhere else. And if we're going to keep it add the caliber "5.7x28" to the bottom"
Товарищ (talk) 06:32, 29 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: FN P90

message: I have removed the "Mod 0/1/2/3" from the various articles wikilinks, because it not only clutters the the navbox, but it doesn't denote a different weapon, for example a weapon with 3 revisions (Mod 0/1/2) is still the same weapon and the article will discuss the various revisions/variants. All weapons classified with the Mk X Mod Y system also always starts with a Mod 0, the Mod part can be left out. --Deon Steyn 06:54, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mod 0/1/2

message: I have split grenade launchers from machine guns, because they two aren't remotely related and if you have split rifles into assault/carbine/sniper/submachine-gun, then surely we can split machine guns from grenade launchers ;-) Both categories also have quite a few entries. --Deon Steyn 06:54, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Grenade launchers

message: Why is the FN SCAR called the Mk 16 and the Mk 17 in the article? Hayden120 01:39, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have not yet heard of it being standardized, which is why I listed it with its experimental designation.  If they were to be standardized then it would be Mk 16 Mod 0 and Mk 17 Mod 0.  I could easily be wrong on this as well as I have not been paying close attention to the progress of the SCAR models. -- Thatguy96 03:45, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: EX 16 and EX 17?

message: I mean they wernt adopted, how are they modern weapons of the US army if there not adopted. The only exemption is the FN SCAR ForeverDEAD 04:06, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know this is answering a question with a question and is bad etiquette, but why can't they be on the list? -- Thatguy96 (talk) 15:33, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Well for obviouse reasons that the list would be clutterd. I dont feel it helps to show someone a weapon that doesnt have anything to do with the military anymore. Also how is it a infantry weapon if it was never given to them in the first place? Esskater11 07:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Should Expirimental Weapons be Here

message: Would there be a problem with adding weapons like the (M2)60mm and (M252)82mm Mortar systems, (M47)Dragon and (FGM-148)Javelin missile systems?  I have used all of these systems while in the Infantry between 1998 and 2002.  Is the template really for direct fire weapons and non anti-armor missiles?
Tigey (talk) 00:19, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think all of those that you mentioned are infantry weapons.  No reason why it should be limited to direct fire weapons.  Generally, the reason is that direct-fire weapons are given much more air time in all respects. --Nukes4Tots (talk) 01:14, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Addition of some other weapons

message: accidentely pressed enter before I was done with my edit summary. Somebody should add hand grenades and mines. --Phil1988 (talk) 03:18, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: lol

message: A lot of these are weapons used by special forces (i.e. NOT standard weapons of the US military).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.53.159.220 (talk) 11:57, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  SF 

message: Is a towed artillery piece, not an infantry weapon  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.117.155.134 (talk) 03:32, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  M327 

message: Does the Ruger KP95D belong in the template?  It appears 5,000 were bought by the US Army.  Source  --Surv1v4l1st (Talk|Contribs)  17:19, 4 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Added.--Surv1v4l1st ▌Talk|Contribs▌ 04:41, 26 March 2017 (UTC)

text: Removed with no comment.  Added back.--Surv1v4l1st ╠Talk║Contribs╣ 01:34, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Finishing this edit now but I removed the KP95D.  They were acquired to arm the Iraqi Army/Police.  Included a source on the Ruger P series' page. Jasonkwe (talk) (contribs) 18:32, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ruger KP95D? 

message: It's not clear why "AFV guns" should be in the "infantry weapons" box. The L7 120mm cannon is hardly manportable.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.71.87.145 (talk) 07:03, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  AFV guns 

message: If the TOW missile gets to be in, then the Browning M2 should be in. It can be carried by soldiers as well, and requires a tripod set up. Similarly, both are typically used mounted on vehicles. Grizzly chipmunk (talk) 19:08, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Browning M2 

message: It is being reported that SOCOM has chosen the .300 Norma Magnum for their Advanced Sniper Rifle.  Article here.  Thoughts of adding the rifle, cartridge, or both? --Surv1v4l1st ▌Talk|Contribs▌ 04:44, 26 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say leave it out until there's evidence of it currently being used. They could still change their minds before it gets fielded. --Grimwol (talk) 02:19, 29 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like it is being produced. --Surv1v4l1st ╠Talk║Contribs╣ 01:38, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Recent articles about the MK22 ASR were weirdly coy about exactly which cartridge is being used (7.62, .300 NM, .338 NM) but your source seems on point.  So I'm going to be including .300NM and .338NM on the nav box.  .338 NM would also apply to the MG 338 that socom is supposedly getting but I can't find much information since it was originally announced. Jasonkwe (talk) (contribs) 23:31, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Roger that and thanks. --Surv1v4l1st ╠Talk║Contribs╣ 00:20, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  .300 Norma Mag? 

message: We might want to add this to the cartridge list soon.--Surv1v4l1st ╠Talk║Contribs╣ 01:36, 11 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Mentioned it in the edit summary below.  Strongly considering it but no official NSNs for 6.8mm ammo, XM5, XM250, or XM157 (Vortex's fire control unit for NGSW).  I'm pretty sure that it's gonna happen but I think it'd be prudent to hold off until there's official stocking info. Jasonkwe (talk) (contribs) 22:17, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  6.8 

message: Made a lot of edits and wanted to document their reasons/rationale.
-Capitalized the "K" in "MK" as per nomenclature in official documentation
-Added Mk 26 (glock 26).  Also added sources for that on glock's page.  The sources aren't ideal but glock didn't really advertise these smaller mil contracts.
-Removed Ruger kp95D as it was purchased to arm the iraqi army/police, not for use by us mil (see source cited on its page).
-Changed GUU-5/P to "XM177" and "GAU-5/A" since XM177 and GAU-5/A were the baseline guns ordered and GUU-5/P was a modification of GAU-5/A.  Also changed link to the mil CAR-15 page
-Reordered assault/battle rifles so they're aligned by their lineage (ie. M4 next to M16). And generally ordered the more common/standard weapons first (ie. M27 in front of HK416) even if the more common one traces its lineage from the less common (ie. HK416).  Also, still searching for an official M or Mk designation for HK416, MP7, and MP5.  Haven't had any luck w/ NSNs thus far.
-Changed M27's entry in DMR's to M38 DMR
-Changed m21's name to M21 SWS (didn't want to tie it down to M21A5)
-Changed M82 to M107 (as M82 is Barrett's name for it while M107 is official mil designation)
-Removed M327 mortar as it was phased out.
-Reorganized order of DMRs, snipers, machine guns, grenade launchers, mortars, rocket launchers.  General idea was to place the more common ones first and, on a case-by-case basis, place related weapon systems adjacent to each other (ie. M110 next to Mk 11, then M110A1 after them).
-Added name abbreviations after many of the mil designations (like M38 DMR).  On the one hand, I'm all for adding clarity.  On the other, I can see the navbox becoming bloated.  I'm open to suggestions on this so I'm keeping the abbreviations in for now and would like to hear from y'all.
I'm also considering doing this but still thinking it over
-Adding XM5, XM250, MG 338, .338 Norma Mag, and 6.8x51mm cartridge      (I know this may be controversial.  My read from open source info is that all of these are happening.  But it's open to discussion if we should add these or hold off for now.
Input/opinions requested:   whether we should keep the name abbreviations after the mil designations (ie. M38 DMR vs M38).
Ideally, I'd also like to include a link to List of individual weapons of the U.S. Armed Forces within the navbox but that page is kind of a mess, too big to tackle right now.
Opinions on abbreviated names after the weapon designation?   Like M24 SWS vs just M24.  On the one hand, it provides a bit more clarity.  On the other hand, I can see it getting very cluttered. Jasonkwe (talk) (contribs) 22:11, 18 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit summary