Talk:Grendel (novel)

message: I apologize for any typos or factual errors in this article. I Just wanted to get this out there for peer-review. Donbas 07:54, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The only criticism I have of your article is that you state that the plot of Grendel is derived from "an 8th century epic poem".  The date of the composition of Beowulf has not been conclusively established.  The possibilities that have been suggested for its composition range from about 700 to 1000 A.D.  Therefore I think it would improve the quality of the article if your statement on Beowulf reflected this lack of certainty over its composition. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 209.134.156.129 (talk) 01:06, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Composition of Beowulf Not Necessarily 8th Century 

message: The premise of Grendel seems very similar to Jorge Luis Borges' story The House of Asterion (1947), where the story of the Minotaur (anticipating Theseus) is told through the eyes of the unexpectedly philosophical monster. Coincidence or inspiration? Snarkibartfast 15:23, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The two stories have nothing to do with one another, so I wouldn't even believe in a minor coincidence just because both stories are told from the point of view of the "Monster."  parallel literature is a popular enough genre.  María (habla conmigo) 17:46, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that it could plausibly be a coincidence (and I have found nothing that substantiates a connection), but I think the two stories are more similar than can be explained merely by reference to parallel literature or revisionistic versions of legends. Mostly I mean the philosophical component, which is predominant in both works. As for the objection that the source material is unrelated, Borges provides an alternative, hypothetical version of his story within The Zahir, where the Borges-character describes a story he has written from the point of view of Fafnir. This story must either be an early draft or a fictionalized version of "The House of Asterion", or at least another exploration of the same recurring idea. The link between the dragon Fafnir and Beowulf and Grendel should need no elaboration. In any case it's an interesting parallel. Would probably make a good term paper for someone. Snarkibartfast 19:13, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Literary Connections 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:JohnGardner Grendel 1st.jpg

message: This material needs to be sourced before restoring to article. -Classicfilms 18:06, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Research 

message: I changed the following text "nihilism of Sartre, whose philosophy Gardner despised" to "philosophy of Sartre, which Gardener despised."
Not only is Sartre not considered a nihilist by many, but he explicitly denied the accusation himself.  Calling him a nihilist off-hand is POV at best; I believe the new language still gets the same point across while sounding more neutral on its stance toward each author. 76.252.250.191 04:22, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sartre Revision 

message: ... is very much misguiding. Grendel did not literally conclude that everything not himself was non-existant; this statement rather highlighted Grendel's newfound ability to sort out the chaos before him. For now, I will simply undo the link. In the future, I may reword the sentence to better suit the intended meaning. Singbirdofprey (talk) 20:46, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The link to "Solipsism" 

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thread_title:  Copyright problem 

message: I wonder if any secondary sources mention this letter?
* http://www.genesee.edu/gcc/gardner/perdue.htm - http://www.webcitation.org/6QTi4vlod
To Susie West and students regarding Grendel
WhisperToMe (talk) 18:52, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Letter to Susie West and students