Talk:Hunayn ibn Ishaq

message: If you noticed he's an arab ad they say, arab children study english,russian,french...etc. can we say there're english because they study it? it's same to him he's an arab studied syriac Latin greece and persian, can we say he's persian because he knows it. all what I can say that old sources say that he's an arab and am with who lived with him of course.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.189.69.65 (talk) 13:19, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
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message: I cannot find direct support for the quote but it is probably genuine. It is likely from his letter to Ali. Can anyone help? J8079s (talk) 16:39, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
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message: The first paragraph is in italic typeface.  I think this is unnecessary.  Can someone indicate the purpose of the italic?  If not, let's remove the italic.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Karl gregory jones (talk • contribs) 03:57, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
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message: I made this section exclusively for the admins, in order to sum up the dispute and spare them the trouble of reading all of the talk-page discussion.
1-The dispute is regarding the ethnicity of Hunayn ibn Ishaq, whether he was an Arab, an Assyrian, or of a disputed origin.
2-My stance is that according to reliable sources, both primary and modern ones, Hunayn was an Arab and there is no dispution over his ethnisity. The user Chaldean on the other hand claim that it is disputed and that there are reliable sources for the Assyrian claim.
3-Hunayn ibn Ishaq was born in al-Hira, an Arab city and the capital of a pre-Islamic Arab state.
2-According to medieval biographers, Hunayn belonged to a community called the "Ibad", thus his name: Ḥunayn ibn Isḥaq al-'Ibadi. This community was composed of different Arab tribes who converted to Christianity and lived in al-Hira.
3-Hunayn ibn Ishaq was a Nestorian Christian which caused the confusion here. In the 20th century, the Nestorian church changed its name into "The Assyrian church of the east", a name it has never had before. The non-historical sources which refer to Hunayn as an Assyrian are basing  their claim exclusively on the modern name of the church, to which Hunayn belonged. That is however anachronistic and factually-wrong. The church was not known as such during the middle ages, and at that time it had followers from different ethnicities like Persians, Arabs, Chinese etc. Hunayn for example, was an Arab as mentioned above.
4-Last thing, and the most important one. All reliable sources refer to Hunayn ibn Ishaq as an Arab. This alone should settles the issue according to Wikipedia rules.
Here are some examples:
Encyclopaedia of Islam:
 Ḥunayn was born in 192/808 in al-Ḥīra, where his father was a pharmacist. The nisba indicates that he was a descendant of the so-called ʿibad , i.e. Arab tribesmen who had once embraced Christianity and who after the rise of Islam remained faithful to the Syrian Nestorian church.
The Oxford History of Islam:
The most famous of these translators was a Nestorian (Christian) Arab by the name of Hunayn ibn Ishaq al-Ibadi (808–73).
Encyclopædia Britannica:
Ḥunayn ibn Isḥāq,, (born 808, al-Ḥīrah, near Baghdad, Iraq—died 873, Baghdad), Arab scholar whose translations of Plato, Aristotle, Galen, Hippocrates, and the Neoplatonists made accessible to Arab philosophers and scientists the significant sources of Greek thought and culture.
The Cambridge Illustrated History of Medicine:
The major ninth-century medical figure in Baghdad was a Christian Arab, Hunain ibn Ishaq, an amazingly accurate and productive scholar, who travelled to the Greek Byzantine empire in search of rare Galenic treatises.
The Oxford Dictionary of the Middle Ages:
Hunayn ibn Ishaq (Johannitius) (d. 877) Christian Arab physician, scholar, and translator into Syriac and Arabic during the Graeco-Arabic *translation movement in Baghdad.
Henry Corbin, History Of Islamic Philosophy: 
The latter was succeeded by one of his students, the famous and prolific Hunayn ibn Ishaq (194/ 809—260/ 873), who was born at al-Hirah into a family belonging to the Christian Arab tribe of the 'Ibad.
Medieval Science, Technology, and Medicine: An Encyclopedia
Medieval biobibliographical sources report that his father, an apothecary by profession, was a 'Ibadi, a member of one of the Arab tribes that had embraced Christianity.
Encyclopaedia of the History of Science, Technology, and Medicine in Non-Westen Cultures
HUNAYN IBN ISHAQ Abu Zayd Hunayn Ibn Ishāq al'Ibadi (Johannitius, AD 808–873), a physician, philosopher, and translator, was born in al-Hirah (Hira), now southeast of al-Najaf (Iraq). He and his ancestors were Syrians who belonged to the Nestorian church. The family nickname, al-'Ibadi, is derived from “al-'Ibād,” a Christian Arab tribe.
Sidney Harrison Griffith, The Church in the Shadow of the Mosque:
Hunayn was a member of the Arab Christian tribe of Ibad from al-Hira, hence the sobriquet al-Ibadi, which we often find added to his name in the sources.
Mirko Dražen Grmek, Western Medical Thought from Antiquity to the Middle Ages:
Hunayn ibn Ishaq was able to satisfy their needs. Of Christian Arab descent, he had spent many years of his life in Byzantine territory, in pursuit of his studies, most probably in Constantinople.
Viaros17 (talk) 17:48, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Resolving the dispute with the admins