Talk:Classical Marxism

message: "Classical Marxism" is the term that was used in my sociology theory subjects and I just assumed it was widely used so I didn't bother with references (and yes it did just look at Marx and Engels) but when I get a chance I'll go and find my uni notes and try and find a proper reference for it. 02:50, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference for "Classical Marxism" 

message: It seems that nearly all of the content of this article is already adequately covered in Marxism. Therefore, I propose a merge and redirect. --causa sui talk 03:30, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The marxism article is already very, very long, and is meant to be a summary article, highlighting the key points of a host of more specific articles sitting underneath it. Merging this article into the Marxism article, wouldn't not only increase the length of that article and skew the proportions of the different summary sections but would also make it difficult to expand on this content later. Having a separate article here gives the possibility of being able to develop and add more detail to this topic over time. JenLouise (talk) 04:24, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge into [[Marxism]] 

message: Do we think Ron Hunt would object to us stealing his title? The purpose of the section would not be to judge Engles place in Classical Marxism, but to document this most intereasting question.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.33.1.37 (talk) 09:12, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your comments and excuse my earlier just rearranging them instead of responding to their content. Do you think that the parts of Engels letter to Mehring which you've cited should be used as a source for the article? Greeting --Schwalker (talk) 23:06, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

text: I've been in project land for the last few months with no spare time on my hands, but am back now! Of course Spiker 22, you are more than welcome to put the section in anywhere you feel is appropriate, and if I or anyone else reading the article has any suggestions we'll let you know. Happy to offer my opinion that you could add it as additional content in the "Marx and Engels" section or create a new heading to become 2.3 so that it appears after "After Marx's death". Cheers, JenLouise (talk) 04:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposing a section on Engles alledged misunderstanding of Marx 

message: since no one has offered anything substantial in the way of showing that Engles somehow  failed to understand or accurately express Marx's ideas. it is not enough to assert that Engles may or may not have adhered to marx's ideas.
While the accuracy of this article is in dispute, no evidence has been offered to substantiate the claim despite the tag's existence for over 1 month. Wikipedia should adopt a policy that a dispute tag must be accompanied by some effort at substantiation. Innocent till proven guilty, anyone? Spiker 22 (talk) 02:31, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to do away with the accurracy tag 

message: Hi, I have removed the merge tax from this article and placed it on the Orthodox Marxism page. See my explanation on the talk page for the change and to discuss. JenLouise (talk) 04:15, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: For. Orthodox Marxism isn't a widely used term, and the article on Orthodox Marxism is a horror, with not a single reference. --Duncan (talk) 23:14, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with Orthodox Marxism page 

message: The lead paragraph (sentence) seems to have dropped off somewhere along the line. I have added in the original sentence (that began the controversy regarding Engels' role in Classical Marxism). This sentence needs to be expanded to be at least one paragraph and introduce the key elements of the article - if anyone has any ideas, please have a go! Cheers, JenLouise (talk) 04:20, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing lead paragraph 

message: I have removed the following;
"It is important to distinguish between "Marxism" and "what Marx believed"; for example, shortly before he died in 1883, Marx wrote a letter to the French workers' leader Jules Guesde, and to his own son-in-law Paul Lafargue, accusing them of "revolutionary phrase-mongering" and of denying the value of reformist struggles; "if that is Marxism" — paraphrasing what Marx wrote — "then I am not a Marxist."[1]"
The reasons are as follows; There is no mention in that reference of Marx writing a letter to Guesde shortly before he died. There is a reference to Marx writing Engels however. There is no account whatsoever of Marx ever claiming (whether paraphrased or otherwise) that he is "not a Marxist". There is no account of Marx using the term "revolutionary phrase-mongering" towards anyone in the entire article. There is no reference outlining what Marx believed which was in contrast to Marxist principles as stated by this entry. 
As such, it is obvious that this entry is the independent and subjective words of the author, and are not verified in the reference provided. The only similarities between the aforementioned entry and the reference used to support the entry are the names, "Marx", "Jules Guesde", and "Paul Lafargue". The account of events and perspectives are NOT supported.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.118.201.253 (talk) 17:58, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing inaccuracy not supported in reference 

message: under the "concept of class" heading it mentions the "PETTY bourgeoisie" and links to the page about the "PETITE bourgeoisie", the article on Marxism only lists petite and not petty and perhaps I missed it in my copy or the translator was lazy but I never saw the mention of the petty bourgeoisie. I propose we change it to reflect the redirect page and the main article. 99.249.182.150 (talk) 02:29, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect and unnecessary Anglicization