Talk:Toyota/Archive 1

message: This page really needs to be rewritten from scratch. The first five paragraphs do a poor job of summing up the company and only talk about estimated success.  I'm also a little concerned with the vague changes people are making against and for Toyota.
I think the page title may be slightly confusing. Toyota refers to the Toyota industry group, inclusing Toyota Motor, Toyota Auto Body, Toyoda Automatic loom, etc... Maybe its better to create sub pages for all the individual companies and one main page for the industry conglomerate.
Chris_73
: There are more such cases (especially in Japan: Mitsubishi, Kawasaki,...). But if one says Toyota the majority thinks of the carmaker.
: anobo 15:21, 31 Dec 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: There's more that could be said about the Landcruiser, an iconic vehicle in much of the developing world. Mark Richards 18:03, 7 Mar 2004 (UTC)

text: The Formula 1 constructor needs a page too. Rdsmith4 23:25, 13 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening comments 

message: Just a note, Toyota also has manufacturing facilities in Poland :)
Toyota is opening another plant in Ontario, Canada.  They may be building some Scions there too.
=> note from a TME-employee(me):
Toyota in Europe:
TME ( Toyota Motor Europe ) used to be TMME ( Toyota Motor Marketing Europe ) and TMEM ( Toyota Motor Engineering & Manufacturing ) but TMEM joined TMME to become TME in 2005. 
The head-Office is located in Evere, near Zaventem and Brussels In Belgium.
TME has 8 manufacturing companies:
TMUK in Brunaston, UK 
	* engines 
	* Corolla, Avensis (called Deeside so counts as 2)
	* Toyota Motor Manufacturing UK 
TMMF in Vallenciennes, France  
	* Yaris 
	*Toyota Motor Manufacturing France
TMMT in Adapazzari, Turkey  
	* Corolla Verso, MPV, sedan & stationwagon 
	* Toyota Motor Manufacturing Turkey
TMMP in Walbrych, Poland 
	* engines and transmissions 
	* Toyota Motor Manufacturing Poland
TMIP in Laskovice, Poland 
	* diesel engines 
	* Toyota Motor Industries Poland
TPCA in Kolin, Czech Rep.  
	* Aygo ( in co-operation with Peugeot (107) and Citroen (C1) )
	* Toyota Peugeot Citroën Automobiles
Salvador Caetano I.M.V.T. S.A. in Ovar, Portugal 
	* Dyna, Hiace, Optimo
hope this can help you a bit :-)
(Mistic 01:39, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production facilities 

message: Toyota look to have an very promsing 2005 season after starting on the front row in the 1st race and taking the teams 1st ever podium finish the next race in Malaysia.
An anonymous user posted the above under Formula one team.  In order to return to its original position, two things need to happen.  The grammar and spelling need to undergo serious corrections, and two more information is needed.  What race is this person talking about?  And this next race in Malaysia, what race is it?  Also, is there any citation to confirm this? oo64eva (AJ) 01:50, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
: I think this person was writing about the first race of the 2005 Formula One season, the 2005 Australian Grand Prix. The second race of the 2005 Formula One season was the 2005 Malaysian Grand Prix. But I don't think anyone will miss that sentence. --Boivie 20:12, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Malaysian race? 

message: Wikipedia is becoming more and more Western-Centric with every passing day.  Some people who edit and write have either very poor ethics and/or a hidden agenda to show the East in negative light.  It almost looks like some christian club participating in an information war.  
For example in Lexus Articles ex: Lexus LS someone doesnt accept that Lexus Cars are one of the most Well Engineered, they are "merely" more reliable.  Samstayton 01:18, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't mean to portait Lexus in a bad light! I test drove a Lexus LS before buying my TC and before I used to drive an Infiniti. The sentence: "Most well engineered" it simply gramatically wrong. Nobody (at least not me) is trying to portrait the "East" (Asia) in a negative way. Signaturebrendel 19:45, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Western-Centric Wikipedia

message: Toyota has developed some silly steering wheel mounted digital camera that *indirectly* checkes that the driver is alert and "on the job." Why did they have to go this way, why not a tradtional railway style failsafe device, afterall, the (much simpler) technology for directly monitering driver vigilance has been around since the late 1960s, in the form of a button pushed periodicaly to ensure that the driver is alert, the timer can also be reset by major control function (traction/braking/warning). Did Toyota decide that such a system would impractical in a road vehicle. Why do there have to be so many inconsistancies between road and rail vehicle design choises, particularly on the grounds of safety, which should driver conveniance matter more on a road vehicle than a rail vehicle? It it (partly) becuase a much higher percentage of females drive domestic road vehicles than drive rail vehicles and on average conveniance/user friendliness matters more to them? Myrtone (the strict Australian wikipedian)(talk)
:Not everybody knows how to operate a train. Most people who buy a car have had some kind of lessons... 89.100.139.240 00:17, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cars That Brake When You Don't 

message: Just wondering...does anyone think the Toy Yoda lawsuit is worth mentioning? That would be the one where the Hooters waitress got a toy Yoda instead of a Toyota, sued, and then got a Toyota as part of the settlement.  Just an example of how the original family name could be confused with a little green guy from Star Wars.  --Coolcaesar 07:42, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, this is an encyclopedia, not a phone book. We don't know where you can get used forklifts. Try your local Yellow Pages or similar thing in your country. -- Chris 73 | Talk 08:00, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Probably a tangent, and I shouldn't be editing on WP at this late hour, but... 

message: The article states that using the /atoyot command in EverQuest will make your character do a special action. While I've admittedly never played EverQuest, I know that Asheron's Call does/did exactly that. Does EverQuest do this as well, or is it a mistake in the article? eXonyte 04:24, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  /atoyot in EverQuest, Asheron's Call, or both? 

message: Since when have Celica and Corolla been successful in WRC? CJ DUB 19:20, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Toyota was the Japanese manufacturer to watch in the 1980s and 1990s, and the Corolla WRC was campaigned into the 2000s.  The Toyota Celica All-Trac (GT4) was intended as a homologation model.  Toyota took home WRC championships in 1993 and 1994.  — AKADriver ☎ 19:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Long time ago...Peugeot, Subaru and Ford have dominated since. I made a change to the mothership page. CJ DUB 21:58, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rally? 

message: In the Origins section there is something about Toyoda Automatic Loom. Is Toyoda a spelling mistake/typo or is it correct?
:is correct. toyoda ts the family name, was changed for the company for easier international pronounciation -- Chris 73 | Talk 14:48, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Chris is right.  I've seen that same story in many different magazine articles about the company.  They changed it because the soft D is hard to pronounce and the harder T sounds nicer anyway.--Coolcaesar 15:50, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toyoda?? 

message: This entry needs to be reviewed. The article is poorly written, with an obvious bias against TMC. I am new to Wikipedia editing, but a quick skim of the paragraphs will show a distate towards the automaker. (by User:161.253.53.126)
:Could you point out which sections? Some of them are quite in favour of Toyota. I occasionally revert some anonymous Anti-Toyota POV on this article -- Chris 73 | Talk 06:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: Read the Toyota article carefully. Now compare this to the Honda and General Motors article. It seems to be that somebody has been updating the GM page with pro-gm things and editing the Toyota page to have negative POV.
Most of the other automotive related articles are just fine. However, I'm concerned because someone on the GM talk page did a backtrace and said that an ip trace led to the conclusion that GM was editing the articles.
In any case, the article stinks of anti-Toyota bias. For example, the Toyota page lists the recent recall problems but GM and other automakers have had recall problems too. For comparison, the GM page has had its GM financial crisis section deleted and the Ford page has no mention of the Firestone rollover problems.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.5.190.140 (talk • contribs) 
*Here I removed a claim, as it is stuffed on the end of an irrelevant paragraph, and duplicated content from further down in the article. Also, reading the sources that are provided, the article makes no mention of Toyota being the most recalled car, rather they have just had a recall in July. Furthermore, the article doesn't take in to consideration the number of recalls as a percentage of total vehicle sales, but rather, as a straight number, which is an inherent bias. --Porqin 12:16, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV and Vandalism