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Wikipedia talk:Webby Awards

message: So far, Wikipedia is kicking ass (pardon my french) in both catorgories!
In Best Practices, its beating out Google!!! Google has 25% and Wikipedia has 57%. NOW, I call that dedication! --Saint-Paddy 19:50, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Results 

message: Well, the reality is that we're getting our ass kicked by LiveJournal and Google in the People's Voice votes. Advertising on the edit page itself is not particularly effective; if you want to reach all the thousands of folks who know us, ironically, from Google, Template:Fromwikipedia would be the right place. Of course you'd have to clean out the Squid first because most of the anonymous viewers get cached pages. Which in turn would result in a slowdown ..
It's really unfortunate that we're not in the Education category, where we'd probably win hands down. LiveJournal is huge and competing on the basis of reaching the largest number of users is going to be difficult. If Google doesn't advertise the PV vote, we can beat them in Best Practices (but only if we significantly increase exposure), if they do advertise it we're dead meat.
So we can do either of two things, in my opinion - campaign for this seriously, and that means tacking it on every page. That won't happen unless Jimbo explicitly decrees it. Or just wait for the result of the - at least as important - jury decisions, where we stand a better chance. I think a jury award in Best practices is what we can most hope for.
A subdued campaign is really not going to work. Either we do this the right way, or we don't do it at all.--Eloquence* 21:15, Apr 22, 2004 (UTC)
:I'm pretty sure Jimbo would be fine with adding such a message to every page. Why not email him? --mav 07:37, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The cost-benefit analysis is already finely balanced as the overheated chat above indicates. The prospect of a forcing a complete cache rebuild could well tip it firmly into the "let's just hope we win one of the jury awards" category. Could someone who understands the technical issues give a guesstimate of the slowdown it would cause? Pete/Pcb21 (talk) 08:31, 23 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strategy 

message: So I took that out. Jimbo said he'd discuss it more last Monday, but he's been too busy. And, as noted, the wildly unscientific vote is utterly going against us. user:Jengod rm'd the notice from the main page a little while ago, replacing it with an (inaccurate as it happens) explanation for slowness. Martin 00:45, 4 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  copyright warning msg gone
Talk:Webolog

message: Google only show 228 hits for "webolog".  Other than links to the webolog.com site belonging to the articles author, all seem to be typos.  The linked to webolog.com site is dead as of now.  Suspect this is a promotional article or legitimisation attempt.
TB 15:42, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: 200 misspellings is enough for a redirect, IMO. Martin 23:09, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Talk:STS-102

message: I honestly can't make the following passage from the Mission highlights to make overall sense — it actually seems to contradict itself. Maybe it is the result of some slight cut'n'paste mishap or something of the like (pure speculation, I admit):
:The primary cargo for the mission was the Leonardo Multipurpose Logistics Module (MPLM), with six racks for the U.S.Destiny Laboratory Module, delivered and installed onto the station during STS-98. The STS-102 crew installed Leonardo onto the International Space Station in order to unload its contents and then return it to Earth.
Now, which mission was it really that installed Leonardo, STS-98 or STS-102? Is the above a botched attempt to convey that STS-98 installed it and STS-102 later returned it to Earth? --Wernher 15:54, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: STS-102 ISS 5A.1  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.25.110.199 (talk) 02:51, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Confusing prose or plain error?
Talk:Bell's theorem

message: The Mermin-Peres magic square analysis seems missing here. As a simplified "game" it might make some of this more accessible.
Mermin and Peres both worked on simplified Bell models as summarized in:
* Aravind, Padmanabhan K. "Quantum mysteries revisited again." American Journal of Physics 72.10 (2004): 1303-1307.
These models take the form of a "game" described in the common sense of a game but treated as in game theory. The wikipedia treatment of the Mermin-Peres magic square is buried inside Quantum pseudo-telepathy. Johnjbarton (talk) 17:59, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. The rules of the game are more complicated, the proof of the local bound is more complicated, and the quantum strategy is much more complicated. The only good thing about the magic square is that the quantum probability of victory is 1. Which is rather nice but conceptually irrelevant for Bell's theorem, and in any case already covered by the GHZ game here. Tercer (talk) 19:55, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mermin-Peres magic squares.
Talk:Nazi songs

message: Not only does this appear in their propaganda but also in their political documents.  I put quotes of the songs on the reactionary page.  The liberals kept on reverting them like they don't belong and kept telling me that the songs were propaganda and had NO WEIGHT OR SIGNIFICANCE. Lo and behold, I find political documents put out by the Nazi party that says that they ARE NOT REACTIONARY.  So again, I question these people. I include the quotes below:
*Nazism a form of fascism is also not reactionary.  The forerunner to the Nazi party, the Deutsche Arbeiterpartei was "liberal" and "democratic".  "On their meeting in Trautenau (August 15, 1905) they declared solemnly that they were:
*...a liberal, nationalistic party which fights with all powers at its disposal against all reactionary movements, against all feudal, clerical, and capitalistic priviledges,..."
When the party, in l915, adopted the name "Deutsche Nationalsozialistische Arbeiterpartei" (the party Hitler would later join), it echoed the sentiments of l905:
*"It is a liberal and strictly racial (völkische) Party fighting against all reactionary efforts, the clerical, feudal, and capitalistic priviledges..." 
Boy oh boy Mussolini and Hitler say they are not at all reactionary.  OHHHHHHHHHWHEELER 14:57, 3 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Reactionary in the Songs
Talk:Møre og Romsdal

message: After someone removed the one-liner info blurbs from three of the municipalities listed in this article I reverted the change based on the following rationale for including it: such concise introductory info may serve as an incentive for the (casual) reader to check out the article on the municipality in question, and thus furthering Wikipedias mission of general knowledge dissemination. --Wernher 16:40, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Introductory municipalities info

message: In case of bewilderment as to my recent removal of lks from the Fræna entry: this was done to prevent 'feature creep' into the main article, with the one-liners eventually becoming 'n-liners' and thus making the county article less tidy and readable. Any reader interested in a given municipality will click that lk and from there be directed toward villages, towns, and general info regarding that municipality. --Wernher 11:58, 1 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: One-liner info inclusion 'policy'

message: The island is certainly located in the county:
Bosses from the Smøla local council and Møre og Romsdal county authorities asked NIKU to perform surveys at Edøya last year. https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidnikel/2019/11/22/viking-ship-grave-found-next-to-island-church-in-norway/#457ab06344c4
Peter K Burian (talk) 15:17, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  The article does not mention the island of Edøya?
Talk:Hanging Gardens of Babylon

message: This article claims that there were two Philos of Byzantium: the engineer Philo of Byzantium and another "paradoxographer" writing much later. At the moment, the claims are sourced to a single writer. While I have done some editing to improve readability, I have kept the sense of what is already there.
I think it would be good to understand the extent to which there is a consensus that these are two separate people - is it clear that we need a new Philo of Byzantium (paradoxographer) article, or is there more of a debate doing on? 
The Parson's Cat (talk) 09:38, 4 April 2021 hutch
:I'm currently reading Dalley's book, and while her citations around this assertion are messy (she primarily cites people who in her view got it wrong), her authority appears to be K. Brodersen, Reiseführer zu den Sieben Weltwundern: Philon von Byzantz und andere antike Texte (1992)—although in a separate note she sources Brodersen's translation that identifies a later Philo as the author to a 1999 edition. She also cites I. Finkel and M. Seymour, Babylon Myth and Reality, British Museum Exhibition catalogue 2008, 185 n. 162 as having "corrected" the confusion of the two Philos. —Snarkibartfast (talk) 08:14, 6 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philo of Byzantium 

message: Change "not be confused with" to "not to be confused with" in the last paragraph of the Descriptions in classical literature section 23.118.238.220 (talk) 04:46, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 26 January 2024 

message: “second, that they existed in Babylon, but were destroyed sometime around the first century AD;”
Right after this colon. Just need one of them. IncandescentBliss (talk) 12:26, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  2 of same link
Talk:Maura Tierney

message: Thanks for removing "world's sexiest actress". I know it was a POV statement, but somehow I couldn't bring myself to remove it. I'll just go and lie down for a while now. DJ Clayworth 16:54, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  PoV 

message: "...against Lauren Graham, her former NewsRadio colleague."  When was Lauren Graham on NewsRadio? She certainly wasn't a member of the normal cast. --mtz206 14:09, Jun 9, 2005 (UTC)
: IMDb says she was a guest several times in 1997, as "Andrea".
:—wwoods 21:27, 9 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Andrea, the efficiency consultant. thx1138 22:39, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graham 

message: Any relation to the actress Gene Tierney?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.242.225.132 (talk) 11:08, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gene Tierney 

message: What happened to her lips in "The Affair"? So distracting. Was it part of the role to get them augmented? --2A00:C1A0:4888:3000:503A:CB77:62B9:D160 (talk) 22:56, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see WP:NOTFORUM.  This is an encyclopedia, not a gossip magazine.  - Julietdeltalima (talk) 23:48, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lips
Talk:Kenpō

message: This article refers to a Chinese origin in the term "quanfa".  The link directs to the article Chinese Martial Arts which offers no explanation of the term "quanfa", "quan fa" or "Ch'uan fa".  I understand this to mean "fist way" or "fist principles", but I haven't the expertise to add such content.  SRBirch922 (talk) 03:58, 20 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quanfa 

message: Is this supposed to be impressive, or is this vandalism? Even if it was six years, that's barely enough to learn the basics in any martial art, much less become any kind of a master... 2001:14BA:3F2:C600:B8D8:4424:107:DB82 (talk) 18:08, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  A student of Chow in Hawaii for nearly six months 

message: It would be nice if the article could make it more clear when the terms originated in history. Other martial arts article, such as karate, have similar time tables/overview in their history subsection.
I guess Kenpo isn't as popular as Karate but it is still useful to have this information presented on wikipedia, in my opinion. 08:40, 25 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Somebody has to put this type of kenpo in this article just to enrich more this subject DeutscherFeuer (talk) 00:46, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hawaiian Kenpo
Talk:Troy McClure

message: I recall seeing fictional filmographies, discographies, etc. in Wikipedia articles... for instance,Spinal Tap. I could see that being of interest to folks looking into the character of Mr. McClure... but I can also see it being trivial. Just putting it out there.... PurpleChez (talk) 13:08, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  filmography
Talk:O My Father

message: If I'm not mistaken, we're using "Mormon" to refer the largest LDS denomination only. If so, then there has been plenty of "official acknowledgment" all the way from Joseph Smith to Gordon B. Hinckley. It would be correct to say there hasn't been much in the way of official detailed teaching or that there has been much in the way of deliberate avoidance of such talk, but any link here will reveal someone from Kimball to Maxwell referring to her quite plainly. I think it's pretty untenable to argue she is not officially acknowledged as doctrine--so long as we are indeed using "Mormon" in the way I described above.
Th. 1:20pm on 2008.01.18 in the Bay Area
:Well, that depends on what you think "doctrine" is. Not all members would acknowledge that a statement of Spencer W. Kimball or Neal A. Maxwell is official "doctrine". Many abide by the thought that only things in the Standard Works or joint statements of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles constitute official church doctrine. On this standard, there has been no "official acknowledgement" of the existence of a heavenly mother as doctrine. Some take the reference to "heavenly parents" in the Family Proclamation to mean God and Jesus, so that's not an official acknowledgement either to some. It's best to leave the qualification in, since it is a controversial issue and not cut and dried. Snocrates 06:19, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: But if that's the case, how can we use the word "authoritative" in speaking of this hymn? By that standard, it's not doctrinal either. Th. 11:37pm on 2008.01.18 in the Bay Area  —Preceding comment was added at 07:39, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's true. I would suggest changing it to something like "one of the few references to Heavenly Mother in materials published by the church" or something similar. Snocrates 08:27, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems reasonable. I think the goal here is to keep it simple. Things like "but it's in the gospel essentials book!" are best kept to the article that's actually about her. Th. 10:50pm on 2008.01.21 in the Bay Area  —Preceding comment was added at 06:50, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Regarding official acknowledgment
Talk:Franklin W. Dixon

message: See [] for discussion about User FWDixon/Bob Finnan's link spamming and plagiarism.
More on the link spamming and commercial advertising. Example http://hardyboys.bobfinnan.com/hbpb.htm is just a list of titles that all have links to Amazon. All of the books summaries were copied from Amazon. Every HB Digest title, Casefiles title, Clues Brothers title, Supermysteries title, Ultra Thriller title and so on has a link to Amazon and all summaries were copied from Amazon. Does that tell anyone something?
:Yep, tells us you're lying! Here's a link to Amazon's Ultra Thriller page (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0671756613/ref=nosim) and not a summary to be seen. Ditto for everything else. BTW, thanks for all the links to my site, I'm sure it will increase readership! :) --FWDixon 14:24, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: And The Haunted Fort.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.189.103.145 (talk) 08:20, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to say here.  Can you please clarify this, or remove it?  Thanks. VA6DK (talk) 15:41, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: oeuvre

message: are we not going to talk about how cool of a pen name this is? Come on! Frankly W Dixon?  What kid's not lining up to find out what secrets Franklin from the block just dropped?  Also presaged the second Bush president's moniker.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.250.58.37 (talk) 21:56, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: cool
Talk:Drider

message: I am pretty sure drow is supposed to be its own plural
JeffBobFrank 21:16, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Drow plural

message: In the intro it says, "The transformation is typically a punishment for offending their goddess..."
But in the Ecology, it says, "Only high-level priestesses in good standing with Lolth are able to initiate the transformation of a dark elf into a drider."
So which is it?  A benefit or a punishment?  —Preceding unsigned
it is punishment... Matrona Malice treat to Dritzz that he will beacome one of them if he continue to  fight against sociaty... sory for my rusty english...
comment added by 24.110.120.202 (talk) 19:20, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion
Talk:Ame-no-Uzume (goddess)

message: The original entry stub refered to "... a goddess of Japanese myth.
Performing a simple web search (via alltheweb.com) it was apparent that this goddess is intrisic to  the Shinto religion, so it seems more respectful (both to the religion and the goddess) to refer to Her as such.
Leonard G. 21:27, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Dornier Do 23

message: Why is there no Dornier Do 15, 17, 19, or 21?? 66.32.142.19 22:10, 24 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Talk:Mary of Burgundy

message: The Dutch & Flemish articles have two very good pics which aren't yet on commons. I'm no good on pics - can someone put them there & here? Thanks Johnbod 17:46, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: Just because someone is not a trained historian, that does not mean they don't meet the requirements of Wikipedia, which does accept even journalists's works and commentaries. I don't see anywhere the requirement that one must only cite trained historians. If we had a lot of sources on the subject to choose from, and the writer in question happened to have a controversial opinion, I would agree that we should move to a better choice. Van Loo's work definitely has an unorthodox, unacademic structure, but I don't hear anywhere that the basic events he describes are contested. Hans Cools, who is certainly a serious historian, thinks that the work does a good job in providing a Netherlandish/Flemings' take on the stature of its dukes, rather than the more known but propaganda-influenced of French (great!) historians like Jules Michelet, and that it provides good psychological portraits of personalities involved. I think the work is notable enough. --Deamonpen (talk) 16:13, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Then take it to Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard. --Kansas Bear (talk) 17:27, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I will. And here, regarding this author, you just simply deleted him without bothering to explain your reasoning on this Talk page or linking to any previous discussions.Deamonpen (talk) 17:55, 10 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bart Van Loo
Talk:Island Gardens DLR station

message: Anyone know why this article has been tagged? Stephennt 02:24, 31 December 2006 (UTC)

message: The article says:
"It was elevated with two platforms, each capable of accommodating a single car train. The station required significant rebuilding to allow the platforms to take two-car trains."
I have video that I shot of this station (in fact the whole line) when it first opened.  It clearly shows 2 car trains running into the elevated platforms of Island Gardens station.  I even recall a two cat train over-running the buffers and hanging over the end of the station during the pre-opening shake down.  I don't believe this re-build ever occured and that the station could accommodate 2 car trains from the start.  Every other station was built for 2 car trains.
I believe each platform originally could accommodate 1 car due to the Y Shape of the station, with the main platform later rebuilt for two. tring to find a source for this (I know there is one - I used it for a school project on the DLR)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.149.182.210 (talk) 00:39, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Development
Talk:Flamen

message: I'm merging some of the flamen stubs into this article. The only one I see that currently merits a distinct article is Flamen Dialis, which I'm leaving as a daughter article. Flamen Martialis and Flamen Quirinalis don't have enough info yet to merit it, and even if they did might work better as subsections of Mars (mythology) and Quirinus. -Silence 01:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: The initial sentence of the article reads, "A flamen (plural flamines) was a priest of the ancient Roman religion who was assigned to one of eighteen deities with official cults during the Roman Republic." However, the article only mentions fifteen flamenes as being present during the Republic; and only one additional flamen during the Imperial period. Should the first sentence read "fifteen" or "sixteen" instead of "eighteen"? Mastakos (talk) 01:36, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eighteen flamens?
Talk:Futou

message: A drawing or ancient painting is needed. I can't find one... --Menchi 00:53, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  illustration needed 

message: To add to this article: can such headwear also be called "guanmao" (官帽, literally "official hat")? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 22:08, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: To add to article
Talk:Race war

message: Is there a reliable source that considers the American Indian Wars as a race war?  Alatari (talk) 18:22, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reliable source 

message: An RfC: Which descriptor, if any, can be added in front of Southern Poverty Law Center when referenced in other articles? has been posted at the Southern Poverty Law Center talk page. Your participation is welcomed. – MrX 17:12, 22 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC 

message: Is there a reason why the Pacific theater of World War II considered a race war? If anything the Nazis would be the race war. 68.63.5.77 (talk) 05:50, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Pacific War
Talk:Weasel word

message: It seems that this article could more clearly demonstrate the idea by adding examples of Weasel Words into it's text.  See example edit below (could use more added but shows the idea - note that sections dealing with specific types demonstrate that type specifically).  The change doesn't seem to stick when I edit it in so it looks like I need to propose it here first for approval?
Example can be seen in my post to Sandbox.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wewyrasrtkuh (talk • contribs) 07:25, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Idea: Add examples embedded in text

message: I had written this intending it to be a new article and copy it into Wiki, without realizing that an article already existed. It would have been nice if someone had linked this in "Wikipedia: Avoid weasel terms" which I had checked.
Somehow I hadn't spotted this "Weasel word" article in the Google search. Dieter Simon 01:11, 25 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  My recent addition 

message: El artículo weasel word https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word es fascinante e importante. Como hispanohablante, realmente deseo que este artículo se traduzca al español ("palabra de comadreja") para que más personas puedan escribir y hablar correctamente, tanto en inglés como en español. ¿Puedes por favor hacerlo? Gracias y que tengan un buen día  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikitest112 (talk • contribs) 06:45, 27 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hola, ¿puedes crear un nuevo artículo traducido, traducido al español (weasel word -> palabra de comadreja). Por favor
Talk:Kandivli

message: Given that the list of schools is pretty irrelevant to the topic and moreover may probably not be exhaustive, I think it does not need to be included. Pranav K (talk) 05:13, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: List of schools

message: I have noticed that a few landmarks are given wrong like the Kala Hanuman Temple is on M.G.Road and not off it. Also the content regarding the Charkop metro line along with its reference is outdated and hence needs updation. I would like to do the same if everyone is fine with it.
--Gaurav.jhala88 (talk) 07:41, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  updates