Talk:Mughal Empire

message: Rectify this please, northern Afghanistan was in the Khanate of Bukhara. 2A02:8428:809E:6701:AC63:FF8E:60BB:1E1E (talk) 23:44, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  It should be Eastern Afghanistan in the northwest  

message: I think establishment of baburs empire in kabul and all the years he grew his empire from there is very importstant in the history section! With dates and the armies he rose. 178.232.61.65 (talk) 20:19, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kabul kingdom  

message: The Sikh Misls were directly formed in Punjab as a result of the power vaccum left by the downfall of the Mughals, so they ought to be mentioned in this list since they succeeded rule over Punjab after the Mughals. AnyBurro9312 (talk) 14:45, 14 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Under `Succeeded by`, the list ought to mention the Sikh Misls or the later Sikh Empire 

message: i think its time to start considering for this article upgrade to GA class article. the coverage is more than enough, and i saw there is very small portions of bias in language currently, perhaps just streamlining some references and trimming some dubious lines. Ahendra (talk) 20:35, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA nomination 

message: I planned to add the ethnic groups to the infobox
of course i have plenty of english reference source which i think credible enough to be included
What do you think? Ahendra (talk) 20:24, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello. I'm not sure this would improve the article. I haven't seen any other major articles for empires/historical states do this. The infobox is already quite crowded as it stands. It would be better to add this information to the Demographics section. Revolution Saga (talk) 08:43, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: i think youre right. at this moment seems the infobox quite overcrowded, until someday we know how to make more additons while still being convenient for readers Ahendra (talk) 09:52, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnicity in Infobox 

message: @Curious man123, please use this talk page to discuss your edits to the infobox here and try to attain a consensus. You need to attain consensus here to include them. Please understand that having citations doesn't automatically give you to the right to include specific information to the article. PadFoot2008 (talk) 09:49, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox edits 

message: Hello @Flemmish Nietzsche, you recently reverted my edit so I opened this discussion. You weren't pretty clear on what you meant by "no need" in you edit summary. Per the documentation in Template: Infobox country :
You can see that the conventional_long_name parameter requires the official name not the common name which is already mentioned as the first word in the lead and the title. PadFoot2008 03:13, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: We've always (as far as I know) had the infobox header for this article as "Mughal Empire" even if that is technically not the "offical name". I don't think the conventional long name should be confused with the native name, which in this case if in English would be Hindustan, whereas the conventional long name would just be Mughal Empire  it's fine if the article title and the infobox title are the same. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 03:18, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @Flemmish Nietzsche, If something has been wrong for a long time that doesn't automatically make it correct. It's not fine if we are using the wrong thing. The conventional long name is Hindustan and the common name is Mughal empire. Look at West Germany, Soviet Union, Ottoman Empire, Sassanian Empire or especially British Raj. PadFoot2008 03:29, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I see those examples  I know what an official name is, and I'm not saying we shouldn't use the official name in the infobox. It's just not really clear what the official name is here, and Hindustan seems to be the short version, not the long version, as the name section says. Maybe change the infobox title to "Dominion of Hindustan"? Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 03:36, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright. PadFoot2008 03:54, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @Flemmish Nietzsche, I think we should perhaps use the English translation of Bilad-i-Hind: Land of Hindustan, Country of Hindustan or Empire of Hindustan. Wilayat can mean multiple things and it's translation doesn't appear very accurate. Bilād seems to be much more an official designation of a country and used very commonly. PadFoot2008 04:55, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: So which one is it? Empire of Hindustan seems the best choice here if you don't want to use the existing name. Flemmish Nietzsche (talk) 05:00, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I think that's the best choice as well. PadFoot2008 05:10, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

text: @Flemmish Nietzsche, one more thing, per convention, as you will see in the above-mentioned articles as well as other articles, the official name is mentioned in the lead as well, in the following construct: "The (Article name), officially the (official name), was ..." PadFoot2008 09:30, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @Flemmish Nietzsche, for now, let's use just "Hindustan" in the infobox and the lede paragraph. "Empire of Hindustan" is, as of now, not sourced until I find sources. Additionally, many modern-day countries articles like Japan and Malaysia use a single word official name in the infobox, as well as former country article infoboxes like Canada (New France). PadFoot2008 04:15, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox official name