Talk:Orion (character)

message: I'm not sure "Third World" and "Fourth World" are described accurately here. In particular, I'd been under the impression that the third world was the world that existed pre-Ragnarok, and that the Fourth World was the current one that arose following its destruction - and not specifically the separate dimension occupied by New Genesis and Apokolips.
* I was about to w rite the same thing... my understanding was that the "third world" was the world of the "old gods." In DC One Million, Earth was called the "Fifth World." Palendrom 03:43, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

message: The author seems to have some preternatural insight into Orion's "true feelings" in the episode "Flash and Substance". The paragraph 
"At the end of the story, he mistakenly believes that Flash's lighthearted attitude is meant to hide "a warrior's pain". Flash and Batman have little recourse but to let Orion believe this; it is clear that powerful, polarized emotions and concepts are Orion's way of life and he cannot easily comprehend diplomacy, mercy, and empathy." 
is full of conjecture and should be removed. In fact, I'll do that right now. RB 24.163.208.79 03:02, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other media

message: It has been suggested that Orion (comic book) be merged with this article, please discuss. --Basique 04:12, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's not clear to me what happened here, but as of May 2011, this article is mainly about the comic "series pencilled and written by Walt Simonson" that "ran for 25 issues, from June 2000 to June 2002" and not about the character Orion.  This is supposed to be the article about the character Orion, is it not?  The link to "Orion" from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_New_Gods" takes you here, as does the Orion link in "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Gods".  The comments above suggest that the merge blew away whatever information there once was about the character as originally presented in Kirby's "New Gods" in the early '70's.  The section "Fictional Biography" is almost completely unsourced and apparently based on the 2000-2002 comic.  I realize none of you young whippersnappers ever saw the original series (and indeed, I sold my collection several years ago) but Orion's partnership with Lightray on Earth (unwanted by Lightray, but forced upon him by Highfather) and Orion's epic battle with Kalibak, when he learns they are brothers (and kills Kalibak, but later writers gave Kalibak infinite lives, it seems), are seminal events in Orion's life and are not mentioned anywhere in Wikipedia, as far as I can tell after looking around. (By the way, looking at the article on Lightray, it suffers as well by having practically nothing about the original series.)   24.27.31.170 (talk) 16:43, 23 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: *Merge with a protected redirect on Orion (DC Comics comic book) as well as Orion (comic book). The new page is a recreation of the (comic book) page by the only editor to voice a desire to not merge as per previous discus ion. There is no sound reason why the comic book and the character should have separate articles.
**re the character article:
***The character, while pivotal to a limited set of story lines, is relatively minor over all to the totality of material published relating to the "DC Universe" stories.
***While the article most likely can expand, it is extremely unlikely that it will outgrow the 30k-50k "comfortable" file size that would suggest splitting elements into separate articles.
**re the comic book article:
***The comic book ran for 24 issues and is, in and of itself, of very minor importance to the material put out by the publisher.
***From the stand point of file size, unless there is an inclusion of excessively detailed plot summaries, there is no way the article grow beyond its current state.
:— J Greb 20:45, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: - J Greb 00:48, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge again 

message: When the character's page was merged with the comic book page, a lot of things seem to have gotten left out. There is very little pre-crisis info and the page seems to be dominated by the Simonson book. I think that the comic book should have been a paragraph or two (tops) of the entry and I think the character's info needs to be fleshed out. 
Shoeless Ho (talk) 06:03, 25 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  messy merge? 

message: I took a crack at making the article less "Orion (comic book)" oriented. I added some details on his pre-crisis appearances and his appearances in various post-crisis runs of Justice League and New Gods. I'm not super familiar with the character's history in the Hunger Dogs and other mid-80s comics, so maybe someone could expand on that. I think the character's biography could use some of the same treatment if anyone wants to tackle it. Shoeless Ho (talk) 23:38, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article cleanup: Publication History