Talk:Fishing Creek (North Branch Susquehanna River tributary)

message: You've done an awful lot of work on this article with very little help. I converted most of the many imperial quantities in the article to metric just now using the "convert" template (Template:Convert), which is very handy in all sorts of situations involving quantities of units. I have a couple of other suggestions for improvement. I would suggest looking at featured articles on rivers to see how other writers and editors have organized their materials. Specifically, I was helped when I did my first stream articles by looking at Larrys Creek. I would also suggest making the article less list-y by including the communities, tributaries, and bridges in the "Course" section. The convention for course descriptions is to start at the headwaters and proceed downstream to the mouth. Mention notable changes (direction, tributary confluence, bridge, dam, road, village, stream gauge, waterfall, and so on) as they occur going downstream. A second convention is to refer to things on the right bank as "right" and things on the :wikt:left bank as "left"; e.g., "at X Village, Something Creek enters from the right". Hope this helps. Please ping me on my talk page or comment on this talk page if I can be of further help. Finetooth (talk) 16:16, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Like this? King Jakob C2 17:51, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Sort of. The basic idea I'm getting at is to turn the lists into prose paragraphs somehow. Some of this can be done by including particular items in the course description itself rather than in a separate section or subsection. However, if there are too many bridges (or some other class of objects) to include in the course description, it might still be necessary to have a "bridges" section. However, this section might then include only the most important or most interesting bridges, about which something further could be said. The less notable bridges could be briefly mentioned in the "course" section. See Aliso Creek (Orange County)#Course for an example of a course description in a featured article. It's pretty long, but it reduces the need for separate sections that simply list all the roads, towns, bridges, etc. Finetooth (talk) 22:59, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: As you were lacking a map, I have created a simple one below for you to add to the article. You may want to check the co-ords, and add at least those for the mouth to your info box which should give you some co-ords for the article. Also consider using the Template:Geobox/type/river which would cope with your mean, min and max river flows; and a lot of other extras.  Jokulhlaup (talk) 18:29, 23 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I requested a map for this article from Wikipedia:Graphics Lab/Map workshop which was created by Kmusser, and I think you will agree it is impressive. Jokulhlaup (talk) 17:28, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
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message: You really think it's only start-class?--King Jakob C2 14:00, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably higher. I just thought "stub" was way off. Finetooth (talk) 14:13, 24 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rating 

message: I saw this article was up for GAN, but I don't have time to do the review myself. Here are some suggestions:
*Briefly mention what the Shannon diversity index is. 
*I think it is worthwhile mentioning that of the three trout species, only brook trout are native and rainbows are probably stocked for recreation (I'm not sure about brown). 
*Scientific genus or species names should be in italics ex: Microspora sp. Where sp. is not italicized.
*The last two-sentence paragraph before biology seems a bit out of place. Perhaps you could expand more on land cover in the watershed and other terrestrial species.
*The "highest density of organisms" paragraph could use some clarification. What organisms were studied and included in this? An organisms could be a fish or a bacterium and anything in between. 
*With regard to glaciation, mention when the area was last glaciated. I expect this area was near the terminus of the Laurentide ice sheet during the last glacial period, and thus would have been one of the first ice-free areas once glacial retreat began.
Fredlyfish4 (talk) 23:31, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed the thing about the italics. I'll try to get to the rest soon. King Jakob C2 23:53, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions 

message: This is covered twice in different spots in the biology section. It should be edited so the subject is only dealt with once, i think, since both sections talk about ranges of density. hamiltonstone (talk) 11:24, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've merged the paragraphs on density. As for Camp Creasy, this mentions it, but it's impossible to know if it still exists or even when it was established, at least without inferring that information from the date of the book (1961), which would lead to accusations of synthesis or something. --Jakob (talk)  12:57, 7 July 2014 (UTC)
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