Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Cricket/Archive 43

message: Bollyline definitely desreves an article to itself but it belongs in :category:Cricket controversies, to which I've moved it.
I reckon the Turbanator does not read Terry Pratchett.  If he did, he'd know the librarian goes ape whenever anyone says the M-word.  :-)  --The Ghost | séance 20:21, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cricket controversies

message: I'm delighted that Barnes's article has passed FA. Thank you to all those who collaborated on the article. I'm particularly glad to say that there were so many of you that it's easier to point you all to view the article history than to list them.
Another step toward our FT, which is terrific.
While I'm at it, here's a little reminder that Keith Miller is the current collaboration... things have been a little quiet recently there, nudge nudge! :-) --Dweller (talk) 10:49, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Sid Barnes]] FAC 

message: Is it more customary to use Initials or Full names in match summaries. I was going to standardise those between Test 1 and Test 2 on Indian cricket team in Australia in 2007-08 but it occurred to me that I didn't know what the accepted standard was for summaries. Ansell 10:53, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And should it be S.C. Ganguly or SC Ganguly or S. C. Ganguly or Sourav Ganguly for that matter. Darrowen (talk) 22:56, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There are no hard and fast rules and both are used fairly indiscriminately. But my preference is for full name (forename+surname) on the basis that doing it this way creates automatic links to the biographical articles, which are always in this format (with a few exceptions of people known primarily by their initials, like a certain Dr Grace). Also you avoid Darrowen's problem of which form of initials: there are Wikipedia rules on this, but you'll find examples of all the formats, and individuals have their own preferences. Johnlp (talk) 23:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We do have an FA with match summaries - West Indian cricket team in England in 1988. --Dweller (talk) 11:18, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name style in match summaries 

message: The Miller article currently contains the following text: "By the time of his retirement from Test Cricket in 1956, Miller had the best statistics of any all-rounder in cricket history." This is followed by a deserving  tag. Any ideas how this could be sourced? --Dweller (talk) 14:36, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah. Excuse me. I've found it immediately. --Dweller (talk) 14:36, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Statistically comparing all-rounders 

message: Another cricket article has been deleted, Sajid Ali, any chance that an admin could restore it. --Jpeeling (talk) 10:44, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cricinfo has teo players by that name, one born in 1979 and won in 1986. Both are notable, having played f-c cricket (34 games and 2 games respectively). Which one is it who's vanished? (I'm not an admin, just curious.) JH (talk page) 10:57, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Restored. JPD (talk) 11:07, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That is a pretty short article, even for a stub. Surely someone can write more than one sentence on someone who has played almost 250 first-class matches? Having articles on every ODI player is all well and good, but I'd prefer at least a couple of paragraphs rather than one sentence. Andrew nixon (talk) 11:19, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another deleted article 

message: I've semi-protected cricket's hottest new article, in part to help prevent some editors who should know better from walking into 3RR blocks, but mostly because of the plethora of reverts, bad edits and general vandalism from IPs and SPAs. It expires in 24hrs. I'll be off-wiki soon. I know this WikiProject has a good number of admins, so I request you chaps keep an eye on things. Finally, as I've noted at the article talk page, as I'll be off-wiki I'm totally comfortable with my use of the mop being overturned without discussion with me. --Dweller (talk) 13:37, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi protected Border-Gavaskar silliness 

message: Can someone else keep an eye on Dwayne Leverock. I keep having to revert someone who adds to the article their claim to be Leverock's biggest fan, with their only reference being a comment they themselves made on a Bermuda Sun on-line article. I'm probably going to end up in violation of 3RR if I continue reverting on my own. Andrew nixon (talk) 20:07, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Dwayne Leverock]] 

message: I've just made some changes to History of cricket and could not help notice that it is a magnet for the infantile element in our midst.  Our friend Jpeeling has made several reverts in recent days.  To help him out, can one of the admins please do for this what another friend Dweller has done for the bollyline thing and protect it too?  --The Ghost | séance 21:12, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be happy to, but I see only 4 incidents of vandalism reverting this year, which is hardly an epidemic. It's not like there's a seasonal reason prompting a rash of vandals; they're of the type that will perpetually be attracted. For those reasons, it's not a great idea to protect the article - protection would need to be permanent to be effective and there's not much vandalism anyway. We're very cautious to do this; after all, Wikipedia is supposed to be the encyclopedia anyone can edit. Sorry --Dweller (talk) 21:13, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  More vandalism 

message: I have been working on this article for a while and while it still needs a thorough copy-edit, I am almost finished.  Included in the article is the claim "Such was the disappointment at losing the Ashes, Collins was stripped not only of the New South Wales captaincy but also that of his local club, Waverley".  The claim in uncited and I have been unable to come up with a source for it.  I don't want to lose it, as I think it is interesting but if a source can't be found, it will have to go.  Does anyone know of a source for this claim? -- Mattinbgn\talk 22:53, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you to Phanto282! -- Mattinbgn\talk 00:39, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Herbie Collins 

message: 75 years ago, Bill Woodfull got one over the heart in the Adelaide Test in the Bodyline series.  Portal:Cricket now has a Anniversaries section which needs contributions here.  —Moondyne 07:08, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a nice idea. Good thinking. :) Johnlp (talk) 10:53, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  On this day ... 

message: I just have a couple tasks I need to do, relating to Argentine cricketers, thanks to Cricket Archive moving pages around. The list is mostly for my benefit only, though if you guys disagree with any of my decisions, please feel free to revert, and I will by no means disagree with your actions.
*Create Estaban Nino
*Redirect Esteban Macdermott (a redirect page) to Billy MacDermott as per Cricket Archive
*Move Esteban MacDermott to Billy MacDermott as per Cricket Archive Bobo. 16:20, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  To do 

message: I think the player infoboxes need to be updated to incorporate 20/20 matches as the game continues to grow and will eventually take over 50 over matches. Couldn't think of a decent username (talk) 02:44, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been discussed before. The current preferred user box has customisable columns, and there is nothing to stop you adding Twenty20 stats to it, if there is a free column. Andrew nixon (talk) 07:00, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Most recent discussion was here. —Moondyne 07:04, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cheers for clearing that up. Couldn't think of a decent username (talk) 09:31, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Twenty20 

message: I discovered again that a major cricket article did not have a tag, Peter Moores, the England coash, did not have a WPCRIC tag. A few weeks ago it was the Englush wicket keeper, and there have been several others. I have thus put a request at Wikipedia:Bot requests for a bot to tag every article in the Cricketers by nationality category, that should take care of this problem. I hope this is helpful SGGH speak! 16:48, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the need for project tagging, but just as importantly, a concerted effort is needed to assess tagged articles for quality and importance (and to my mind, that is the primary purpose of project tagging). As you can see, there is a large backlog already at Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Assessment.   And that's a manual task.  Any help there is appreciated.  —Moondyne 14:13, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bot 

message: Hi, I have made an attempt at adding a table (mainly pinched from List of Australian Test cricketers and Australian national cricket captains) to the above article, but it doesn't exactly look attractive.  I don't know if there is any here with any good ideas; my wiki mark up skills are poor to non-existent.  Any advice, assistance etc. would be appreciated. -- Mattinbgn\talk 04:12, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Australian Cricket Hall of Fame]] 

message: We have two articles on the 2005 Ashes series, I've just discovered, which must be a Bad Thing:
*2005 Ashes series
*Australian cricket team in England in 2005
The latter title corresponds to the standard naming convention that has usually been used for tours (including those by Australia in 1902 amd 1926). There is also already an article on the 2009 series: 2009 Ashes series, so the duplication could recur with that. JH (talk page) 21:54, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it is a problem, the 2005 Ashes series is an in-depth look at the TEsts, while the second includes the ODIs and tour matches. With the Invincibles we are going to have to do the same thing otherwise it will get too large. Blnguyen  (bananabucket) 23:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with both JH and Blnguyen. The two articles are necessary, but the detail re:Ashes on the tour article is far too great. All that article needs is an Ashes heading, followed by "Main article: 2005 Ashes series. That way, the latter article becomes a sub article of Australian cricket team in England in 2005. It does look like there is a lot of duplication, especially with each articles having a day by day account. –MDCollins (talk) 00:28, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duplication of articles on Ashes series 

message: Dare I say, one of the project's flagship FA's is being slaughtered by a huge bout of recentism edits.  I've restored the lead back to the way it was when it made FA and added a line about his retirement which I think is sufficient and keeps the tone and content we all agreed on back at the FAC.  Can people keep an eye on the page and ensure we don't get too much recentism creep... Cheers! The Rambling Man (talk) 09:39, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Adam Gilchrist]] 

message: Having explored in no great detail the entries for cricketers, there appear to be a few relating to what I might call 'someone's mate'. IE: Players of no significance such a Stephen Cheetham for example - a second eleven player, or Ben Brown, perhaps a future legend or perhaps not.. This does not include major league cricketers or well known minor county players etc who clearly have a place.JimBakken (talk) 12:58, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ben Brown (cricketer) is a first-class cricketer, hence notable. I can't find an article for a Stephen Cheetham though. Andrew nixon (talk) 14:11, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: JimBakken means Steven Cheetham, a onetime first-class cricketer for Lancashire. Bobo. 14:23, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cheers. Also a first-class cricketer, so I see no problem with either article. Andrew nixon (talk) 14:27, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fringe trimming 

message: Whoever made the 2008 season has changed the title style from "Sri Lankans in India" that has been used the previous years to "Sri Lanka's tour in India"; was there an official decision to change this or did s/he just go ahead and do it? If so can I revert it because I don't like the new style. Tony2Times (talk) 11:50, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: General style for these articles has been "Sri Lankan cricket team in India in 2007-08", and there are probably a couple of hundred or so separate articles that conform to this kind of title. Seems sensible if you want to adopt a different style to make redirects that keep this consistency. Johnlp (talk) 13:07, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is for the title of headers, rather than the titles of articles themselves. Tony2Times (talk) 14:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  2008 Season 

message: I assume from the end comments (and, to an extent, the d.o.b.) that this chap isn't notable, but wondered if any of you chaps had heard of him. --Dweller (talk) 11:05, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[James donohue]] 

message: South Africa v. Namibia Under-19s - the scorecard on Cricket Archive states that Pieter Malan and Jon-Jon Smuts were retired out - and thus the team have three wickets beside their name, meanwhile another scorecard claims that these batsmen were simply retired hurt - and thus the score in the South African innings was 107-1. Anyone able to shed any light? (Feel free to ask me to cite this, I have saved the address and can bring it up at a moment's request.
Meanwhile, and I hate to bring up the topic of under-19 cricketers again - those Namibians who made appearances in this match who do not have articles - Claude Bouwer, Pikky Ya France, Bernard Scholtz and Martin van Niekerk - how would they stand up in modern-day AfD? I'm tempted to add their bios to Wikipedia myself. Opinions? There are so many Under-19 Cricket World Cup-only players who have articles on Wikipedia as it is - but I have no idea how concensus is flying with regards to that lately. Bobo. 03:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If the other scorecard is from Cricinfo, I'd be tempted to assume the CricketArchive scorecard is correct. Cricinfo have a habit of putting retired out down as retired hurt. Retired out is almost certainly the correct entry though. As for the four Namibians, they've not played first-class or List A cricket so I wouldn't say they were notable.... yet. Andrew nixon (talk) 07:03, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just checkin' that things hadn't changed in that regard - thank you very much Andrew. Retired out would make more sense then, and thus the score should presumably be 107-3. Thank you Andrew. Bobo. 17:36, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anyone shed any light on this? 

message: Just to let you know, the football WikiProject has had a few wrangles recently over notability within that sport. The consensus seems to have shifted to admitting notability for international U21 players even if they've not played a pro game (previously the bar). Cricket's age level equivalent is U19. I think that there's not necessarily a need for uniformity, especially as at that age 2 years is a lot, and I'm certainly not pushing for us to move in line... just thought you'd be interested to know. --Dweller (talk) 15:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think football is different in this regard. To my knowledge, almost all Under-21 internationals do go on to play a professional game, but even Under-19 internationals from the Test playing nations sometimes never play first-class or List A cricket. Andrew nixon (talk) 16:26, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: To be pedantic, the football WikiProject regards selection for U21 as notability in and of itself, otherwise it would fall foul of WP:CRYSTAL. I 100% agree that playing U19 cricket does not confer notability in and of itself. So we agree on the answer, just differ on rationale for getting there :-) --Dweller (talk) 16:52, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability issues 

message: No, this time it's not the weird 'Clark is Curtly' vandal, but massive addition of POV. I've hacked out some, but it's depressing me. Anyone wishing to help is more than welcome. --Dweller (talk) 16:01, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Stuart Clark]] - yet again 

message: I posted a comment on Template talk:Infobox cricket ground about merging  into  but that page doesn't get much traffic.  I thought a pointer to the discussion from here may help! -- Chuq (talk) 01:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template:Infobox cricket ground 

message: Pics of the Indian cricket team will be arriving soon! Stay posted. Uploading in progress. Blnguyen  (bananabucket) 00:16, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there are many attempted photos of the same thing, I am asking for opinions on which photos are most appropriate. User_talk:Blnguyen#Straw_poll_for_selecting_photos_of_the_Indian_cricket_team_for_use_in_articles.Thanks, Blnguyen  (bananabucket) 05:25, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In addition to the poll, I am also needing help in identifying a few members of the Indian staff who are likely former cricketers. Help appreciated. Blnguyen  (bananabucket) 02:13, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indian cricket photos 

message: Can someone help me with ? I'm trying to write an article for Ellyse Perry but the infobox isn't quite working. I'm missing the Test debut and first ODI lines, although I have supplied the information. I'm not sure whether it's a bug in the infobox or in my use of it. Thanks. Stephen Turner (Talk) 16:14, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've fixed it for you. You just had testdebut and odidebut rather than testdebutagainst and odidebutagainst. Andrew nixon (talk) 17:24, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, thank you. That was a documentation bug (which I've fixed). Stephen Turner (Talk) 21:49, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox for Ellyse Perry 

message: Some months ago, the Surrey CCC logo was removed from the article because no rationale had been included with the image. Presumably the rationale that has permitted other county logos to survive, eg that for Yorkshire CCC would also be valid for Surrey. I couldn't find a suitable image of the logo on Surrey's own website but obtained one from a Cricinfo article on Surrey. However I then discovered how complicated the art of validly uploading an image was, and found myself out of my depth. Is there anyone familiar with the procedure who would be willing to upload the image if I emailed it to them? It's a PNG of 160x160 and is 9kb in size. TIA. JH (talk page) 21:43, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've downloaded, cropped and uploaded one myself.  You are quite right.  It is absurdly, horrifically complicated.  I have been a Wikipedia editor for over three years and that took me a quarter of an hour.  Sam Korn (smoddy) 22:10, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Many thanks for such a speedy and helpful response to my request. JH (talk page) 10:12, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of county logo in [[Surrey CCC]] article 

message: And I was there at Bowral.  A terrific performance from the girls who went to Australia as rank underdogs.  They played with skill, determination, great team spirit and, above all, smiles on their faces.  What a contrast with the big boys of late.  It's a real shame that with all the money currently pouring into cricket the Women's Ashes are decided in just one test.  These girls play for the love of the game and have done England proud with Claire Taylor  as solid as the rock of Gibraltar, Isa Guha taking nine wickets, Charlotte Edwards as graceful in her batting and captaincy as ever and Sarah Taylor a real star with bat, gloves and above all personality.  Let's make sure their articles reflect this. Nick mallory (talk) 08:38, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: After the third day I didn't think they'd be able to make it go to a result but bravo them. Why don't women's tours make it on the cricket season like they used to a few years ago? Was a conscious decision made or are editors less dedicated to putting up women and U21 tours or do they go somewhere else now? Is the main season page just for Tests&One-dayers? I looked at the previous season and my table on the Hong Kong Sixes tournament has been totally removed without any explanation in the discussion pages. No-one seems to talk on this project like they do on the pro-wrestling one.Tony2Times (talk) 09:53, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Yes, I was following that match because of the article I just wrote on Ellyse Perry. Looks like it was an exciting one all the way through. As you say, pity it wasn't a whole series. Stephen Turner (Talk) 10:00, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Did anyone else notice this extraordinary women's match that was also played today? Stephen Turner (Talk) 14:13, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  England Retain the Ashes!! 

message: Doing some gentle clean-up and stub creation surrounding this list (which will definitely lose its FL star at some point) and came across List_of_cricket_terms#X. Looks like nonsense to me - but could be a notable phrase somewhere in the world. --Dweller (talk) 13:05, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Added here. It does smell like an WP:NFT, but the user who added it is still active so you could ask him. Stephen Turner (Talk) 13:13, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ta. Done. --Dweller (talk) 13:28, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List_of_cricket_terms]] 

message: Hi. I'm looking for help from someone who can help illustrate this article. I'd like a side-on illustration of the trajectory of a flighted ("looped", "given air") good length delivery, compared to a "flat" delivery that pitches on the same length, showing the batsman's eye level. I'd be most grateful. --Dweller (talk) 13:12, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Flight (cricket)]] illustration help 

message: Two more cricket related FLRCs: Wisden Cricketers of the Year and English national cricket captains. -- Scorpion0422 18:14, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  FLRCs 

message: If anyone is looking for something to do, see :Category:Unassessed cricket articles. I've done up to D but have run out of steam. —Moondyne 07:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project tagging 

message: Celebrity cricket matches certainly reads like a hoax, but maybe someone who knows Indian cricket could comment definitively?
Thanks,
Stephen Turner (Talk) 09:53, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Taken a look at his other few edits - all bad. Looks like certain fan fiction type nonsense to me. –MDCollins (talk) 20:51, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, thanks, I've AfD'ed it. Stephen Turner (Talk) 22:01, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Celebrity cricket matches]] 

message: Copied from User talk:WINTERJ:
" Welcome to Wikipedia. Although everyone is welcome to contribute constructively to the encyclopedia, one or more of the external links you added  do not comply with our guidelines for external links and have been removed. Wikipedia is not a collection of links; nor should it be used for advertising or promotion. Since Wikipedia uses nofollow tags, external links do not alter search engine rankings. If you feel the link should be added to the article, please discuss it on the  before reinserting it. Please take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia.  Mattinbgn\talk 19:17, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why exactly is that site able to be called spam on sight while two other profiling sites are allowed? Does wikipedia really maintain a list of favoured external information providers as part of the external links policy? Ansell 20:54, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Did you happen to follow the link to the site? If you can show me what is on that site that is over and above what is on the article then I may reconsider.  The Cricinfo and CricktArchive sites provide links to further stats, articles and images none of which the "WorldWideCricket" site does.  It was also part of a mass adding of links (just like a spammer would) by the editor without any discussion of their appropriateness to the article.  Further, Cricinfo and CricketArchive has built up a reasonable reputation as reliable sources while this new site has not. -- Mattinbgn\talk 21:27, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Profiling sites 

message: Surely this doesn't warrant an article? Crickettragic (talk) 00:46, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: One delivery given a nickname by the media does not warrant an article. This statement: "This is the only instance in modern day cricket where a ball was bowled with two bounces." is incorrect, as I've seen it on TV a few times in recent years.Andrew nixon (talk) 01:26, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It wasn't even named by the media, just some fans in this forum I believe -  Crickettragic (talk) 06:04, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've AfD'ed it. Stephen Turner (Talk) 08:04, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Doosraful]] 

message: From AWB, I have gotten hold of a list of all the categories under the hierarchy of :Category:Cricket. If there are no objections, I am going to ask  to run his bot to tag all the articles under these subcats with the project tag for us. Comments? Blnguyen  (vote in the photo straw poll) 01:56, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I forgot to give the link. Wikipedia:WikiProject Cricket/Categories2. Blnguyen  (vote in the photo straw poll) 02:45, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Agree.  On a related matter, most category talk pages have a  (there wouldn't be many that don't).  This was done for a now defunct program of having a megalist of cricket articles maintained by User:WatchlistBot.  That bot is now inactive (nothing since August last year, and its owner hasn't edited since December), and the list is being maintained manually.  Given that its probably hopelessly out of date by now, perhaps you should ask Satyrbot to remove the CricketWatch tag from category talk pages at the same time. —Moondyne click! 02:43, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll have to do those in two separate runs.  The tagging is a program I've already set up - the "un" tagging I'll have to work on :) -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 04:20, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

text: So am I using  ?? -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 04:30, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Blnguyen  (vote in the photo straw poll) 04:31, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And are there any parameters to put in there (like put in "|importance=" on all of them)?  And finally, should I automatically assess as Stub, FA, and/or GA? -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 04:40, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

text: I guess putting "|class=" and "|importance=" on all of them. I guess if something is already tagged FA or GA, then it should be duplicated. I'm not sure about the stubs though. Blnguyen  (vote in the photo straw poll) 04:53, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If the article has a stub template, I would say it can automatically be assessed as Stub. Stephen Turner (Talk) 11:37, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Hm. Thank you.  I've just run a subset of the categories, so I'll work out the bug before I run the rest of them.  Thanks for pointing this out. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 06:50, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay - got that fixed.  I'm going to run another set of 500 categories. -- SatyrTN (talk / contribs) 18:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  SatyrBot to tag all cricket articles with project template 

message: I don't think this applies yet, but it may be worth discussing it for the future. If a player plays in the Indian Cricket League but has not played first-class or List A cricket, is he notable? The ICL is a fully professional league after all. And while we're at it, where would we stand on the Pro Cricket league in the US a few years back, also a fully professional league? My hunch is that all players in both leagues are notable, but what does eveyone else think? Andrew nixon (talk) 14:22, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: U think the ICL players must all be notable, though the point is probably rather moot since, as I understand it, the ICL clubs are only interested in hiring well-known players. I don't know enough about the US league to comment on that. JH (talk page) 18:07, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ICL Notability 

message: Great strokemaker, compared to Mark Waugh. Blnguyen  (vote in the photo straw poll) 23:54, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Norm O'Neill]] dies