Template talk:GFDL

message: === Current version ===
	Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "Text of the GNU Free Documentation License". Subject to disclaimers.
=== Proposed version ===
	Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this document under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License, Version 1.2 or any later version published by the Free Software Foundation; with no Invariant Sections, no Front-Cover Texts, and no Back-Cover Texts. Subject to disclaimers.
=== Comments ===
I made a new version which uses a wikified link to the licence and removed the following text: "A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "Text of the GNU Free Documentation License"" --  Ævar Arnfjörð [ Bjarmason]   21:25, 2004 Sep 11 (UTC)
Cool, I like it. It's more streamlined. --Sonjaaa 21:33, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC):Ia 
:I agree. -- mkrohn 12:31, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  new version 

message: I made a new version which uses a wikified link to the licence and removed the following text: "A copy of the license is included in the section entitled "Text of the GNU Free Documentation License"" --  Ævar Arnfjörð [ Bjarmason]   21:25, 2004 Sep 11 (UTC)
Cool, I like it. It's more streamlined. --Sonjaaa 21:33, Sep 11, 2004 (UTC):Ia 
:I agree. -- mkrohn 12:31, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments 

message: I have removed the category from this template.  The text was .  This category is approaching an unmanagable size. --ssd 12:25, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Categories may one day have a use other than for listings in the category: namespace - this page was never going to be small, but you don't break the back-end of a system, just because the front-end is working. ed g2s • talk 15:43, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category 

message: I have uploaded a different version of the GNU Head logo which doesn’t look blurry after downscaling, like the one used currently:
old→
←new
Image:The GNU logo.png just have to be changed to Image:Heckert GNU white.svg but I don’t have privileges to do it myself. Please see Wikipedia talk:Image copyright tags#Sharp GNU Head. Rafał Pocztarski 05:44, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It has already been changed by Quadell. Thanks. Rafał Pocztarski 05:51, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Sharp GNU Head

message: Acting as a developer I've removed both the image and category from this template until MediaWiki 1.4 is in service on this wiki. Their presence caused a denial of service attack warning and mass query kill on the main database server for the sites at a low traffic time. Mediawiki has some changes which should make it possible to add them back without DOSing the sites. Jamesday 11:35, 16 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Image and category removed

message: I've noticed at least one image that had an invariant section on it, but was tagged with this template (:Image:AsimovOnThrone.png).  Since this template specifically says that there are no invariant sections or cover texts, I created a new template, :Template:Non-free GFDL-invariants, which seemed more appropriate.  This seemed like the best solution to me, but if there's another way that people want to handle this, I'm very open to suggestions. -- Creidieki 13:38, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Things which *do* have invariant sections 

message: No offense, but I think that the old version looked better. --Ixfd64 20:21, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  My eyes! The goggles do nothing! 

message: Please add an interwiki link to the Vietnamese version of this template:
 vi:Tiêu bản:GFDL
Thanks.
 – Minh Nguyễn (talk, contribs) 01:42, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. -Splashtalk 01:47, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interwiki link to vi: 

message: The "subject to disclaimers" lead to compability issues when transferring images to other Wikipedia projects or to Commons. I thought all material on Wikipedia was released under GFDL, not under GFDL-en? Should other Wikipedia projects change their license to "GFDL-en " too? Can other Wikipedia projects also write their own "GFDL-en"? How do you treat works released on other Wikipedia projects without disclaimers when moved to Commons and used on English Wikipedia?
Fred-Chess 11:46, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Subject to disclaimers" leads to compability issues 

message: Is an identical version and I propose that this page be redirected to it. This is a first step in gradual conversion of  to . The disclaimer needs to be preserved as per GFDL, but any newer image does not have to have the license (and if it does there will be a template for it). --Cat out 16:00, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[:Template:GFDL-en]] redirection

message: Can someone add interwiki link to bs:Šablon:GFDL? --Emx 19:48, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interwiki link to [[:bs:Šablon:GFDL|bs]] 

message: Please, add the next interwiki if it is possible: eu:Txantiloi:GDFL. Thanks. --81.39.61.206 09:48, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done --   Netsnipe  ►  12:26, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  eu interwiki 

message: 
please add es:Plantilla:GFDL, thanks, --Cacuija (my talk) 15:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. -Splash - tk 21:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spanish Interwiki 

message: Please add the interwiki for Interlingua:
  ia:Patrono:GFDL
:Change made per your request. -- Renesis (talk) 00:35, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interwiki request 

message: The images covered by this template need to be thoroughly vetted. I have noticed several images that are either copyrighted by corporations (and thus may be covered by  or . However, the most common scenario I have found is that people are too lazy to tag U.S. government images properly, and so public domain images that belong in  (for example) are tagged with  because someone didn't want to do the work. —Joseph/N328KF (Talk) 15:04, 17 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vetting 

message: I have a series of interwiki edits to propose:
*Please move the Spanish interwiki (:es:Plantilla:GFDL) and the Interlingua interwiki (:ia:Patrono:GFDL) to Template:GFDL-no-disclaimers. The Spanish and Interlingua templates have no disclaimers on them, so Template:GFDL is the wrong place for them.
*Please fix the Basque interwiki. It points to :eu:Txantiloi:GDFL, which is a clear character transposition. It should be :eu:Txantiloi:GFDL.
*Add :bs:Šablon:GFDL, as proposed above.
*Add :zh-min-nan:Template:GFDL. This one has disclaimers.
Jesse Viviano 02:29, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Luigi30 (Taλk) 13:33, 30 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I've applied WP:DOC here. Please edit the doc page to adjust the interwikis. --Ligulem 13:06, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interwiki changes and fixes 

message: Please add these interwikis. They have no disclaimers.
*:als:Vorlage:Bild-GFDL
*:cs:Šablona:GFDL
*:de:Vorlage:Bild-GFDL
*:fr:Modèle:GFDL
*:pt:Predefinição:CopyrightGFDL
*:sv:Mall:GFDL
Jesse Viviano 02:25, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please edit the doc page to adjust the interwikis. --Ligulem 13:11, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Done. —METS501 (talk) 21:04, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh, I suppose it doesn't *really* matter but there are two instances of a spanish interwiki in the template and the link to he (hebrew wikipedia) is in the wrong place. Yonatan (contribs/talk) 22:57, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I couldn't help but notice that (at least in my browser) our friend Heckert's head is a little smaller on this template than on the others. I recommend fixing the icon size for consistency's sake. MithrandirMage 03:40, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What size are you suggesting? John Reaves (talk) 07:52, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have changed the image size from 48px to 64px, same as the images on  and  and all the others I could find. James086Talk 09:27, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I fear there was a reason for that. For those of us with sufficiently wide screens that the text takes up two lines or fewer, the icon now pokes out of the bottom of the box. The best way to fix this is probably to add a "height" attribute to the div, rather than just making the icon smaller again – Qxz 07:25, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The edit appears to already be made. This template has the same appearance as the other two GFDL templates.  CMummert · talk 14:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, yes. It wasn't a problem for me, the div box was just stretched to fit the image (the text only takes up 2 lines on my screen). I changed the min-height value to 64px so that it will never be shorter than the image, has it worked? see diff . James086Talk | Email 09:19, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Icon Size 

message: I've added the protection tag and changed the template to use tables instead of div's for stack-ability purposes. --MZMcBride (talk) 20:49, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Code updates 

message: Please change the template code to the following for purposes for  standardization. Kelly hi! 23:39, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Imbox standardization 

message: Because of some changes in GFDL 1.3 shouldn't this template be updated to warn about externally sourced GFDL
images uploaded after Nov 1st 2008?. 
Sfan00 IMG (talk) 13:06, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  GFDL 1.3 

message: How do you use this template without showing the box below saying "If this file is eligible for relicensing, it may also be used under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 license."? It is redundant when there already is an additional  template. Mikael Häggström (talk) 15:17, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  --Denniss (talk) 18:15, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks  Mikael Häggström (talk) 18:18, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to use without the CC-BY-SA box? 

message: I've implemented a tweak in the sandbox version, namely 
instead of coding  directly.  Specfiying dw=yes will supress the categorisation in :Category:All free media, for derivative works where the subject shown is non-free, and thus can't be moved to Commons.
It would be appreciated if this straightforward change was implemented in the main template. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 11:11, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Please remember to update the docs as well. Thanks — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 11:53, 25 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images of non-free works 

message: Sandbox has updated version which needs review to ensure dw param passed to additional templates added by the migration code.Sfan00 IMG (talk)
: Not done: This isn't necessary - all the dw parameter would do would be to add the  template in the daughter template, and that is already done in this template with the present code. If you would like the dw parameter to have different functionality in the daughter template code in the future, I might understand, however. Feel free to reactivate the request if that is the case. Best — Mr. Stradivarius ♪ talk ♪ 02:29, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The dw param is passed to the daughter template (and down the template stack), otherwise the added cc-by-sa tag added by license migration complete won't know to suppress the relevant categorisation. That's why it was being passed down the template stack. Sfan00 IMG (talk) 07:30, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dw param to migration code 

message: GFDL is not good for media per :File:BD-propagande colour en.jpg and WMF  decided in 2009 to stop using GFDL as a sole license. WMF did not forbid GFDL for media files but encourages people to use other licenses than GFDL.
English Wikipedia have removed GFDL from MediaWiki:Licenses and MediaWiki:Licenses/en-ownwork but it is still possible for users to add it manually.
WMF suggested that wikis restrict the use of GFDL and in september 2018 is was suggested to deprecate the GFDL license the same way Commons did. There was not concensus to forbid GFDL on English Wikipedia at that time.
As I understand it the 2 main arguments against was:
# If a website or a book is licensed GFDL then we can't copy it to Wikipedia
# We have a lot of non-free files so why should we not allow GFDL?
The counter arguments agains that was:
# Noone but Wikipedia uses GFDL so the GFDL files are only uploaded by wikipedians that uses the GFDL as a sort of non-commercial license
# <none directly given but an argument could be that the purpose of all wikis is to host free material and GFDL is not truely free>
Does anyone know a more recent discussion of the topic? --MGA73 (talk) 19:17, 10 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: you were very active in the discussion do you know any more recent discussion? I was thinking perhaps to try again in a modified version where there is an exception that allow GFDL if it is allready published as GFDL somewhere else (as a book or on an official website). That should meet the first argument against. --MGA73 (talk) 08:42, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm unaware of other discussions about it. That exception was also included on Commons and should include (like on Commons) a deadline. On Commons that deadline was 15 October 2018. The reason for that is that otherwise a photographer could easily tag on a GFDL license to the photos on their own website or add a note to their Flickr profile. — Alexis Jazz (talk or ping me) 09:04, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:   thank you. Yes I agree that there needs to be a deadline when/if a new proposal is made. I also know that users can try to get around it by first uploading it to a website. That could perhaps be prevented by the way the proposal is worded. I think if we want to change policy we need to take it in small steps to get concensus. --MGA73 (talk) 10:32, 11 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deprecating GFDL