Talk:Wandervogel

message: Perhaps this should be moved to Wandervögel? Haiduc 23:49, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, Wandervögel is the plural, but the movement in total is usually referred to as Wandervogel. But one could think about a redirect from there to here. LARS 13:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wandervögel?

message: Actually although I am quite well informed about the Wandervogel movement and the German Youth Movement in general I never heard of a French Wandervogel. Did they really develop from the German movement. If so, how? You imply, that they still exist. If so, how many are there today? It seems to me, that there is quite an different perception from the German Wandervogel. We should therefore take care to differentiate between both. 
Regarding the German Wandervogel (which is AFAIK still the original one) anarchism is definitely misleading. The same goes for pedarasty. There were cases of attraction, but the movement was definitely about hiking, group and nature experience, not about political ideologies or sexuality. LARS 13:28, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sadly, the informations on the French movement are correct, there may also be a Swiss wing , but I don't have any reliable informations on this. As far as I know, the French have connections to the :de:Freibund and the Sturmvogel, an offspring of the Wiking-Jugend, all of them on the extreme right. --jergen 16:23, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  See the french article on this as well as  --jergen 16:25, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The anarchism aspect is played up by the modern French, but it is far from a "hippie" anarchism. Historicall, I had the impression that there was a definite counterculture bent to the movement, but I have not studied it deeply enough to argue either way. Haiduc 16:44, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  AFAIK the anarchism mentioned by the modern French "Oiseaux migrateurs" concerns mainly their own organisation, but isn't directed to society or politics; thus I think this article doesn't belong in the :Category:Anarchism. --jergen 16:55, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

text:  Unfortunately I am not able to read the French article. But anyway one does not have to accept, that 'there is a French wing of the Wandervogel', even if there is a French group, which calls and sees itsself as such. I am quite sceptical about what such a 'French Wandervogel' has really in common with the original and also the current Wandervogel groups in Germany. LARS 15:04, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: French Movement

message: Any connection? Haiduc 01:41, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ludwig Von Hofmann

message: I first learned of the Wandervogel through Eric Erickson's Childhood and Society.  Is his discussion authoratative? 128.147.28.1 (talk) 21:36, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I could see, all later editions are based on the 2nd edition in 1964, so it could be outdated. I think there are very few English titles on the Wandervogel movement, in German there is an abundance of newer books. --jergen (talk) 08:57, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Erikson? 

message: * For Gordon Kennedy see  and . He's an organic farmer by profession, not an historian.
* For Kody Ryan see . FArmer as well 
* For wandervogel.com: The text is unsigned, so it's better to assume that this was written by an author, than to suggest that this commercial was produced by a historian.
"Historians" is incorrect, if at least one of those cited is not a historian; as I did show, one is unknown and the remaining two are farmers. --jergen (talk) 17:54, 5 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Histiorians" vs. "authors" 

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message: This is English Wikipedia, and as most English-speakers are monoglot, it is not unreasonable to expect translations into English of foreign-language texts that are included in its articles. How difficult can it be to render Wer hat euch Wandervögeln... into English?
Nuttyskin (talk) 19:31, 9 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translations