Talk:Hellé Nice

message: Is it useful to notice somewhere that that Philippe de Rothschild was of Jewish origins ? Ericd 17:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
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message: "five major Grands Prix in France"? In one year? Or 5yrs? Or 5 major races to a voiturette formula? Or what?  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  20:34, 3 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As for the Italian GP, this site & this site both agree she wasn't entered.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  01:05, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
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message: Is there a movie about her called The Devil's Trampoline?70.53.51.120 (talk) 16:15, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
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message: Hello Hellé Nice: 
WikiProject Women in Green is holding a  month-long Good Article Editathon event in June 2023!
Running from June 1 to 30, 2023, WikiProject Women in Green (WiG) is hosting a Good Article (GA) editathon event – Wildcard Edition! Participants are invited to work on nominating and/or reviewing GA submissions related to any and all women and women's works during the event period. Want to improve an article about a Bollywood actress? Go for it. A pioneering female climate scientist? Absolutely. An award-winning book or film by a woman? Yes! GA resources and one-on-one support will be provided by experienced GA editors, and participants will have the opportunity to receive a special WiG barnstar for their efforts. 
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Mujinga (talk) 16:03, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm hoping to get this article to GA quality by the end of June Mujinga (talk) 21:33, 18 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Well done for taking on the rewrite of this article. Without wishing to make your task any more difficult, please however exercise caution in the extent to which you use Miranda Seymour's book as a source - much of what she has written is unverified/unverifiable speculation, not evidenced fact (as the author herself acknowledges in the "Author's Note" at the beginning and in the "Notes" at the back of the book). As well as some of the alleged affairs, a specific example of this speculation is the supposed argument between Helle Nice and de Courcelles/Mongin regarding the "men only" 1921 race at Brooklands - Seymour herself describes the entire visit (which must include the supposed "argument") as "speculatively described" (see Note 5 to Chapter 4), i.e. "made up". Good luck! JamesHT1967 (talk) 12:03, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes absolutely, a lot of Seymour's imagined situations do seem rather speculative so at the moment I'm using the biography to draw out the chronology before delving into other sources to confirm things, probably newspapers from the time (recent coverage seems to draw on Seymour as fact). As just one example, do you know anything about the 1936 'L'affaire de Menton' concerning import duty fraud? So right now the article is definitely top-heavy on Seymour, feel free to get involved if you spot anything fantastical to chop out. Collaboration would be welcome, this is quite far from my area of expertise and I'm just coming to the end of another editing session now. I shouldn't need to use the inuse template much longer since the structure is nearly there (I hope). Thanks for the comment! Mujinga (talk) 12:48, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, I will take a look - perhaps once you've settled at least the structure. I'm afraid I don't have any specific information about the import duty fraud, though I can certainly have a look in some of the French journals I use for source material to see what I can find. Meanwhile, keep up the good work! JamesHT1967 (talk) 19:31, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @JamesHT1967 I'm stopping here for now - interested in your thoughts on the freshly added career highlights table. Plus I wonder if there's a French dictionary of biography she might have an entry in? Cheers Mujinga (talk) 19:47, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I put in a request at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Resource_Exchange/Resource_Request#Classic_and_Sports_Car_magazine for Mick Walsh, 'One Hellé of a Girl' in Classic and Sports Car (June 1997) Mujinga (talk) 10:05, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I added in info from Walsh then decided to nominate for GA Mujinga (talk) 14:25, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Well done, I'm afraid I haven't had a chance to sit down and look at the new version yet, but will do so in the next few days. My only general observation regarding the table of results is that I am not sure any other racing driver has anything in this format - usually a race career is divided up into racing categories (e.g. Formula 1, Le Mans 24 hours, Indianapolis 500, etc), each with its own table; but I appreciate that the variety in HN's career might make this difficult. I believe the US events were largely demonstrations, while (e.g.) the Actors' Championship, although a competition, was in reality little more than a celebrity auto-test (driving around obstacles, etc) rather than a race. I will think further however and give proper feedback. JamesHT1967 (talk) 17:45, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi @JamesHT1967 thanks for that comment. I'm 100% not tied to the current table format, so feel free to change it if you like. I did have a look around at various other racing driver articles to see what format to use and at least for the ones linked from this article, there seems to be a lot of variation. I did however copy the format from somewhere (that's why it is Racing record / Career highlights) but now of course I can't find the article I used as a template, the closest I got was Robert Brunet. Mujinga (talk) 19:57, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
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