Talk:Doomsday device

message: What about this:http://www.wired.com/politics/security/magazine/17-10/mf_deadhand?currentPage=all
What about Cat's Cradle? 205.217.105.2 18:15, 19 September 2005 (UTC)

message: I'm pretty sure I read about a hydrogen bomb the size of an oil tanker ship being developed by the USSR for this purpose. Khrushchev found out about the project and stopped it before it could be completed. I think this was mentioned in CNN's miniseries entitled Cold War, and in the book that CNN published to go along with the series.
*I've seen the CNN documentary and don't recall anything like that. The biggest weapon the Soviets ever constructed (or tried to construct) was the Tsar Bomba, which is considerably smaller than an oil tanker. --Fastfission 04:44, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a clip from this on youtube. The project never left the drawing board, though. Takeshi357 23:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soviet Implementation 

message: Could use votes to save this article, thanks MapleTree 22:22, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[List of doomsday scenarios]]

message: There's about one page of relevant data in this article followed by about three pages of pop-culture references.  Some of these go into greater depth about the TV show making the reference than is appropriate for an article not about that show, and others could perhaps be edited out of the list in order to reduce its size.  Is the factual part of the article so exhaustive?  I mean, I love Exo-Squad, but citing it is going too far.  The show's tie to the doomsday device concept is tenuous and brief.  And then on the other end of the spectrum you have citations like Dr. Strangelove - which doesn't simply feature a doomsday device - it's actually quite central to that movie.  Who cares if the Great Gazoo made one off-hand comment about having created a doomsday device?  Who needs an elaborate description (or, episode summary) of the particular doomsday device the Bionic Woman had to deal with?  How is the "Total Annihilation" game reference at all relevant??  It, the Gundam Colony Lasers, and the Pink Panther Pink Laser are apparently not Doomsday Devices at all - merely very powerful weapons.  Less crap, more substance, please!
--66.30.213.152 08:30, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reality Check, People 

message: Wasn't the reason it wasn't announced because it was going to be announced not "the premier loves surprises?"
Infact the Dr strangelove page agrees - I shall change it.
172.189.80.9 21:30, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  reason on Dr Strangelove: 

message: While its existence is still unconfirmed, the Soviets asserted claims of having constructed a Doomsday Machine that would destroy the world if Russia were ever attacked.  People who lived through the Regan administration would remember this, and with the fall of the USSR there was sudden panic about whether the proposed Doomsday Machine would fall into the wrong hands or spontaneously destruct while left unsupervised.
This should absolutely be mentioned in the main article, as the word Doomsday Machine/Device has a 99% familiarity with people as a device by the same name that was purportedly constructed by Soviet Russia.  Whether the device actually existed doesn't change the fact that Soviet Russia and mainstream media used the name as a proper noun, and was first recognized by the American public as this specific device constructed by Soviet Russia.~ Agvulpine (talk) 03:36, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed Soviet Implementation 

message: I'm rather confused. Are the claims of a Soviet doomsday device apparently fact or fiction? If it is fiction, then where does it come from? If it is meant to be factual, why is it listed uner popular culture? --Andrews Palop (talk) 20:59, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I just went ahead and moved the claims of a Soviet superweapon into a new cateogory. I also added citation tags since there are no sources. Additionally, I completely deleted some nonsense about a Nazi doomsday device. --Andrews Palop (talk) 16:59, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "In Popular Culture" - the Soviet doomsday weapon 

message: My compliments to all of you for producing such a fine article.
I want to suggest some additions.  In regard to the above, the Soviet doomsday device was apparently real.
Times Online August 08, 2007 Dr Strangelove and the real Dooms day machine by Christopher Coker reviewing the book:
PD Smith's Doomsday Men: the Real Dr Strangelove and the dream of the Super weapon. 552 pages, Allen Lane.
http://tls.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,25350-2648363,00.html
See also 
http://www.slate.com/id/2173108/pagenum/all/#page_start
In addition, I should appreciate it if someone would provide links from this fine Doomsday device Wikipedia entry to 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Doomsday_films
as well as to all of the films listed in this catagory.  Why?
Because too many viewers of, for example, Kramer's "On the Beach" see the film but do not remember the discussions of the 1950's and early 60's of a doomsday machine and believe when they see the film that it concerns a nuclear war, which it does not.  It is about the detonation of a doomsday machine.  Viewers need to realize this distinction or many of these films make no sense, so they need links to this article.  Thanks!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rumjal (talk • contribs) 03:00, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Additions

message: There's no doomsday device in Shiel's Purple Cloud. The poisonous gas that (almost) wipes out humanity and animal life is the result of volcanism, not any sort of "device." Deor (talk) 18:18, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The Purple Cloud

message: I must admit Will Oakalnd makes a point on the nature of doomsday devices. Would having doomsday film and Doomsday devices in popular culture be worthwhile adding (not redirecting) to this page be good for a potential Good or Featured Article? Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 00:20, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is also some overlap with Apocalyptic and post-apocalyptic science fiction, although not everything in all these articles concern the same thing. --NickPenguin(contribs) 14:39, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, it's tricky how one thing blends into another. I guess from what I have seen, there is a divergence between those films with a device, and then those post-apocalyptic films which are well and truly after something has happened. A Seealso is probably a better link or some short sentence/segment. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 21:40, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I don't want a merge of what currently exists on the "popular culture" (i.e. trivia) page. A review here of what secondary sources have said about the doomsday weapon concept in literature, well, that's a possibility. But having two articles is silly in either case. WillOakland (talk) 00:02, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK Will, we have your view on this now. Merge doesn't mean and redirect and effectively delete material. Cheers, Casliber (talk · contribs) 03:21, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that this discussion has occured many months ago and there seems to be no consensus for merging, I'll remove the merge tag from the Doomsday film article. I see that it has already been removed from this article. Alastairward (talk) 21:14, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger proposal

message: Under the picture, it italicizes "salted".  Is this necessary?  I don't see the role of it... --98.217.61.141 (talk) 03:23, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Italics?

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