Talk:Developmental psychology

message: Is the image entirely relevent?--82.32.0.26 21:28, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Image

message: The page asserts that "For instance, results from twin and adoption studies indicate that IQ and the Big Five personality traits are heritable, meaning that they run in families due to genetics." Though a citation needed tag is present, I'm going to remove this sentence, becuase it doesn't flow from the surrounding sentences which are more reasoned, and flow, and furthermore, this kind of language fundamentally misunderstands the purpose and strength of the heritability indices. These studies, which are fundamentally no different than 19th century studies by Francis Galton, measure concordance of traits, given known genetic variation, and although we know that genes must surely play a role (as they do) these tests prove very little about genetics, and often prove that developmental and contextual forces play some role. Though this is also without proper citation, I'm pretty  sure that adoptive siblings have higher "heritability" concordances for IQ and Big Five traits than first cousins. Thought I think that some measure of balance between nature and nurture perspectives is appropriate in this article, I think that claims about the explanatory power of genetic information shouldn't be over estimated, or recklessly deployed. Tychoish  —Preceding comment was added at 04:07, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism Criticism

message: I have made a modest attempt to provide some historical background to the existing article. Please feel free to modify (especially to add to) this!!! I hope all feel that Shakespeare, Rousseau and Steiner -despite not being professional or empirical psychologists - do belong to the tradition of describing psychology developmentally.
Hgilbert 16:59, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just want to commend Hgilbert on a job well done. Experts on the intellectual figures mentioned (and their relation to developmental psychology) can edit and expand this new historical background section - a welcome addition - and Steiner's being mentioned briefly in this historical context seems appropriate (certainly much more so than in the introductory paragraph). -DoctorW 03:13, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: Where is any information on intelligence and the use of IQ tests? This seems to be a POV agenda. Please add them, if you can't I will. Let me know.--Tstrobaugh 02:19, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Intelligence

message: I'm very surprised this was rated as a B. Whoever did so must not have read the article, it is very low quality. I think this needs to be greatly expanded, reworded to be more neutral (not to mention free of typos) which I have started off by editing two sections. I think we need input of some real psychologists and psychiatrists here, or at least some textbooks respected in the field.
This reads like a grooming guide, is very generic, and unscientific. For example, in the adolescense section, it says the person 'has' to develope romantic relationships. This is simply not true. Rather than a guide on how to raise, it should remain psychology, which is ANALYSIS, not treatment or guidelines, which is how it is currently. Tyciol 16:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Quality

message: Please see Template talk:Humandevelopment. -DoctorW 19:03, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Template:Humandevelopment

message: I don't see any developmental psychology being discussed under the "Prenatal" section.    It seems to be about prenatal physical development rather exclusively.  Or is there a point I'm missing?  Figma 20:11, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have attempted to address this question, I hope the edit is useful.  I thought the previous content related mostly to pre-natal development and was dealt with at length in other articles such as that one. Some content did not seem to relate clearly to Developmental psychology so removed.  Finally Primitive reflexes covers the full list of reflexes in more depth, I hope the summary style is o.k.  Comments welcomed.Finereach (talk) 21:47, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The point of the Prenatal section, under Stages of development 

message: Although it may be difficult to agree on an order, I've kept the cognitive theorists first (Piaget, Kohlberg, Bruner), followed by the "social context" theorists (Vygotsky, Bronfenbrenner), then Kagan, then the attachment theorists (Bowlby, Harlow, Ainsworth), and finally historical theories of development (Erikson, Freud). Please propose a rationale for significant changes. -DoctorW 00:00, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Order of entries in "Theorists & theories" section

message: According to this article, Nicaraguan deaf children who were formerly isolated from other deaf people could not develop a true sign language on their own, but when brought to schools with others they invented their own language -- 'the "source of language is within us but that the conditions for its emergence depend crucially upon community."' 
http://www.signwriting.org/forums/research/rese004.html
I'm not sure if this is worth including, or, if so, what to say about it. Any input? Sten for the win 00:28, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: on the origins of language you might look at Susanne Langer, Philosophy in a New Key, which is about symbol formation but contains refs to Wittgenstein, Cassirer etc and various anthropological studies.  It is quite an old book (1940's) but the philosophical basis is there and can give an idea of what areas might have been developed subsequently. ArtLit 09:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Language development in isolated deaf children

message: I don't think child psychology and developmental psychology are the same thing.  Developmental psychology looks at the psychological forces that affect a person as he ages throughout the lifespan.  Child psychology, while informed by developmental psychology, deals specifically with understanding the psychology of and treating pathologies in children.  I do not believe that Child Psychology should redirect here.  Steve carlson 04:35, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Child Psychology

message: The current article looks like a mess to me. I guess we first need to clean it up a bit and then we can see where it can be expanded. I would opt for a (commonly made) distinction between physiological, cognitive, and social development. Also, we can distinguish between child development and life-span development (most of developmental psychology is aimed at children, but that's not its sole purpose anymore). Any thoughts? -- Cugel 08:14, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improving this article 

message: I've removed the Ecological Systems Theory section for several reasons. This is not a comment on the legitimacy of the theory, but an attempt to better organize this page.
The primary organizational structure of the page is by age: Infancy, Early Childhood, Childhood, etc. This is a useful way to organize, because under each heading, major positions in Dev. Psychology can be compared. If Ecological systems theory has a specific position on Infancy that differs from other theories, it could fit into this age-oriented organizational structure by adding, "Ecological Systems Theory, on the other hand, states that infants..."
A second reason for the removal is that the section does not suggest an experimental basis for the theory.
Dialectric 17:08, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  On the Removal of Ecological Systems Theory section 

message: Whilst it is only right that the role of fathers and new developments in that area should recieve proper attention, it does seem odd that the role of mothers only warrants four lines.Fainites barley 21:46, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Roles

message: Way back I took a general psychology class, and we talked a bit about human development.  I think we talked about a stage in which human children come to realize that a tool can be used in other ways besides the single function it was designed for.  For example, a person might need to tighten a screw, but they don't have a screwdriver handy, so they use the tip of a butter knife or the side of a coin instead.
And I thought there was also a term for an impairment or disability in which a person lacked this understanding, and avoided using tools except for their primary function.  So if they didn't have that screwdriver they wouldn't know what to do, they wouldn't be able to figure out that they could use something else.
Does this sound familiar to anyone?  Is it on wikipedia right in front of my face and I can't find it?  I want to do some research into it.
Thanks.VatoFirme (talk) 06:11, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

message: The focus on schooling is ethnocentric, but I hate screwing the article up with templates.
Somebody needs to sort that out. forestPIG(grunt) 17:34, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Early childhood and onward

message: I have summarised this detail to Theory of cognitive development, where it has been for about a month with no objections. I have tried to preserve/integrate existing text in my edit.  The rationale is to try to make the section more concise and put the detail in a directly relevant article. Finereach (talk) 09:56, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sensorimotor development detail

message: Hello!! I'm new to this and I'm doing a project for a class. I have been looking at the affects of stress on child development and wondered if it could be fit into this article. I was thinking of starting a general section on the some of the theories (PTSD in children, affects of cumulative stress...) that could be expanded upon later. If anyone has a better idea of where this kind of information should go, please let me know. I'm open to suggestions!
Thank you!
Galeri26 (talk) 02:57, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New to Wikipedia 

message: Hey everyone, I notice something strange about this article. In the first paragraph, the article says, "3 major contexts to consider when analysing child psychology are: social context, cultural context, and socioeconomic context." Until recently, this section had a link to the stub, Social environment. Now, I notice the terms "social context, cultural context, and socioeconomic context" no longer have a link, and are not explicated in a robust, substantial, or organized way. I suspect the link to Social environment was removed because the stub was not very helpful - the validity of the content was vague and the citation was expired and uncredible.
Here is what I propose: Let's get "Social Environment" back on its feet, and/or link "social context, cultural context, and socioeconomic context" to more robust articles so that readers can get a valid and useful understanding of these important topics.
Currently: (1) there is no article about "social context, cultural context, and socioeconomic context", 'and' (2) I have begun work on the article and discussion page for Social environment. I hope you'll check it out and help me get moving on this important and related topic. One suggestion is that Social environment, or more precisely something like "Social Location", helps us and psychologists explain the impact of systemic, internalized, and sublimated oppression on human development and psychological pathology. Thanks!
--Hazjor (talk) 22:20, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Social Context, Cultural Context, and Socioeconomic Context 

message: As a class project we are editing this wikipedia page. We are interested in editing not only some of the sections (theories and theorist, research methods and life stages of psychological development) but also some of the ways in with topics have been organized. It appears that this article's sections are poorly titled and lack the ability to convey a cohesive conceptual understanding to a broad audience about developmental psychology. There is also a lack of references throughout the page and would therefore like to add more citations to it. 
One of the things we are interested in doing is changing the way the theorists and theories sections is organized. The list that is hyperlinked does not match that which is described below and we would like it to. We would like to redo that list and describe those theories and theorist in the same order presented in the list. One concern we have is how should this list be represented. Ideas that we have had are making the list in chronological order, categorizing them by general theories (ex psychosexual, psychosocial....) and then naming all the individual theories and theorists found within them, or naming the the separate theories in alphabetical order and mentioning all the theorists that have had a hand in it. Being that sometimes theorists have a hand in different theories we would like to avoid making the list based on the theorists. Also, considering most, if not all, of these theorists and theories have their own wiki pages how much detail should we put into their descriptions? Should we glaze over it and only name terms and stages or should we give definitions and briefly describe them? If someone could please give us their opinion on this that would be great.
We also noticed that in this sections someone has made second topic for ecological systems theory and we would like to delete the one that is bulleted. They have also incorporated a nature/nurture and mechanisms of development topic which doesn't seem to belong under the theorists and theories section. We will not be working to fix those two topics but would at least like to give it a different heading look to remove it from looking as if though it is part of that section.
We also would like to make some changes in the life stages of psychological developmental section do to a couple grammatical errors we came across while going through this section.  Also we felt like the infant section under life stages of psychological development could use some work like we could elaborate more on what infant perception really is, revise the bullets under infant perception due to a lack of clarity in some of the information and lack of organization/flow, combine the pain with the touch bullet, and to include the small section of language and the next main topic of critical periods of development in the introduction of infancy. Sections such as toddlerhood and early adolescence are seriously lacking in references. The references that are currently attached also need to be revised to make sure they appropriatly belong to the text. We would look for secondary sources that add substance to the secions that are lacking of important information.
The last part we would like to edit is the section entitled under "Research Methods". Overall, we propose that this section needs to be better organized and the first important edit that we would like to make is to change the title to "Research Methods in Developmental Psychology". From there, we create a subsection entitled "Research Methods" in which we added the different research approaches used normally such as "experimental design", "correlational", "case studies" etc. and elaborated on how they differed as well as their strengths and limitations. After that, we added a "Research Designs" subsection header and elaborated on some of the information that was previously posted there.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Koryna22 (talk • contribs) 21:42, 11 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome to Wikipedia! Looks like you're planning to do a huge job. As for your question about the theorists and theories section, I would personally recommend not to put too much detail into their descriptions. In some ways, writing an article such as this one is like trying to fit a whole big book into a couple of pages. A general comment: sources are important, and I hope you know that Wikipedia articles should not be based on WP:primary sources, but on reliable, published secondary sources (for instance, journal reviews and professional or advanced academic textbooks) and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources (such as undergraduate textbooks). WP:MEDRS describes how to identify reliable sources for medical information, which is a good guideline for many psychology articles as well. With friendly regards and good luck! Lova Falk talk 08:32, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Class Project Proposals

message: Based on Dr. KM's instructions on giving peer reviews:
(a) Type of progress #: 4
(b) clearly written and easy to follow; included different factors, such as ethnicity, in parenting style that enriched the understanding of parenting style; explained what the results meant so that everyone could understand
(c) & (d) In the first sentence, please include some examples for parenting variables (e.g., gender? age?) and child outcomes (academic/athletic achievements?) so that readers can understand what you are talking about. 
Is there any specific citation for Strange Situation Procedure (SSP)? Sometimes, you need to cite specific authors who developed that procedure. 
Again, in the Parenting Style section, please include some examples for maladaptive outcomes of authoritarian style.
In the Parenting Style, instead of jumping into authoritative parenting, start with some opening sentences, such as defining parenting style or simply saying that you are going to explain two types of parenting style. 
Also, if you want, you can divide the Parenting Style section into two subsections - one with authoritative style and another with authoritarian style so that readers can compare those two styles.
(e)  Readability #: 4
(f)  Good job! --Kyiphyunyein (talk) 23:03, 27 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''PSY 401 C: Peer Reviews for Lindy.williams''' 

message: In this section, the following is written:
Theories of morality that stem from Jean Piaget’s cognitive-developmental viewpoint emphasize shifts in the type of reasoning that individuals use in making moral decisions. Changes in the content of the decision they reach or the actions they take as a result does no occur.
Now, of course, as children grow older, they shift in the type of reasoning used to make moral decisions. But to state that the content of the decision they reach or the actions they take as a result does no occur seems highly unlikely. When faced with a moral dilemma, due to shifts in reasoning, a three year old might act in a different way than a ten year old, who might act in a different way than an adult. I don't have access to the source (by the way, what is the page number???) but could anybody, please check this out? Lova Falk talk 09:31, 28 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Because nobody answered, I removed this text and copypasted a few lines from Lawrence Kohlberg's stages of moral development. Lova Falk talk 13:56, 21 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stages of moral development 

message: Based on Dr. KM's instructions on giving peer reviews:
(a). 4
(b). I like the accessible nature of the language - it makes attachment theories applicable to parenting rather than seeming like an unattainable theory, so well done!
(c) and (d).
Introduction:
-	I like the clear description of the four attachment theories, but it might be helpful to change how you present them – i.e. instead of in paragraph form, make a bulleted list so that the four types are clearly distinguished and then followed by their descriptions. 
-	The paragraph is also quite long, so splitting it up into two or three smaller paragraphs would make it less daunting and easier to read – perhaps by adding bullet points or something, you could split those up. 
-	You mention daycare as one way children can find positive emotional development – does that extend to nannies or siblings? Maybe including a few other avenues besides parents if research proves that. 
Parenting Styles:
-	Are there going to be more parenting styles than just authoritative? If so, perhaps also breaking those up into mini-sections or bullet points would be helpful. 
-	I would move the sentence “this style can also have varying outcomes depending on ethnicity” above the sentence starting with “among African-American adolescents” since it encompasses that section. That way, the citations following the two claims about African-Americans and Asian Americans will follow and back up that claim. 
Minor Changes:
-	Introduction: move the period in the first sentence to after “outcomes” and inside of the citation. 
o	3rd sentence: add “an” and remove the “s” in “reactions” - “monitor an infant’s reaction” to parallel with the phrasing in the next sentence. 
o	Midway through the paragraph with the sentence “mothers who are attentive to their infants” – add a comma after “needs”
-	Make sure that all periods go inside of the citations instead of outside. 
(e). 4
Racolepsychcapstone (talk) 14:30, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer review

message: This section is badly in need of referencing and potential rewrite. A lot of it sounds like arm-chair philosophy, rather than something based on scientific literature. This section, for example, is likely to be largely false or (at the very least) really going beyond what the scientific literature says:
"If children can discover pleasure in their activities, including their intellectual stimulation, most importantly in learning reading, writing, and basic math, they will develop a sense of competence. If they are not successful or cannot discover pleasure in the process, they may develop a sense of inferiority and feelings of inadequacy that may haunt them throughout life. This is when children think of themselves as industrious or as inferior."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stjep (talk • contribs) 01:12, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early childhood 

message: Many citations in this article are sourced from textbooks, theory reviews, and secondary sources. There is no reason why discussion of seminal works in psychology should not cite the original theory papers and books. In addition, sourcing information from the original articles and books by psychologists would make the reference section more helpful in leading readers to further readings.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.233.8.78 (talk) 16:47, 16 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secondary Source Citations 

message: This article is really well written. The everything was lined up clearly and the article flowed well. I think that the infancy section should be looked at because it is larger than the others. It should be seen if it is all necessary or if it can be trimmed down.Jumbo419 (talk) 02:01, 20 January 2021 (UTC)
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