Talk:Land of Fire/Archive 1

message: I think someone should add the valley of the end because its a very important place. After all, we know that Sasuke and Naruto fought each other there and that the 1st and someone else fought there too. It belongs in the geography of Konoha. The valley of the end is even in most of the Naruto video games. I think that if spin-offs and non-canonical articles belong here, then so should canical, important places. If someone just began the article for me, I would gladly edit it to my best extent. I just dont know how to start an article. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Crazyhua88 (talk • contribs) 21:03, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Can someone add "The Valley of the End"?

message: The article needs to have some indication what the title refers to, what the subject is, what the subject is part of, and what the subject relates to.  Personally, I have no idea, though it seems that it may somehow be part of, or related to, "Naruto".  Bobby P. Smith Sr. Jr. 04:34, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

message: The romaji translation seems to be wrong here. Now, the Kanji is correct (I confirmed it on the official Naruto site). However, in every Kanji dictionary I've looked through, 隠れ is never pronounced "gakure". Rather, it is pronounced as "kakure". I think it should be changed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.142.99.188 (talk • contribs) 00:10, 19 May 2006  (UTC)
:Update: Ok, SpionKOp makes a pretty strong point. I didn't know about the rule he mentioned, but it makes sense now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.142.99.188 (talk • contribs) 00:02, 20 May 2006  (UTC)
::First off, it's romaji.  Sorry, common trivial mistakes make me uncomfortable.  Anyway, not only do they very clearly call it "Konohagakure" in the show, but in Japanese, letters often gain ten-ten (the two lines) when put after another word to make a compound word.  Konoha + kakure --> kakure becomes gakure.  I kinda don't sound like I know what I'm talking about, so...consider 女神, which would normally be mekami, but is actually read as megami. SpionKop 03:45, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Konohagakure no Sato (Hidden Leaf Village) 

message: It's not certain what to correct the Fourth's possible age to, but in the trivia section his age is guessed at around 24 at the start of the manga. How can this be possible when he was the sensei of Kakashi, who was 26 at the start?  (If the Fourth really would have been 24 at the start of the manga this would make him 12 when he sealed the Kyuubi...unlikely) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.90.60.231 (talk • contribs) 18:08, 26 May 2006  (UTC)
:Dead folks don't age. If he was 24 when he sealed Kyuubi he'd still be 24, being sorta dead. Anime and Manga it's hard to judge age, but he's in his mid 20s atleast every time he's seen. I doubt he was older than that. Eban 00:23, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, if the theory of Yodaime being 24 at the start, it would make sense. Kakashi being 26 in the beginning, and Naruto at 12, that would make it a 14yr difference between them. Meaning, Kakashi was 14 when Naruto was born, most likely around the time when Kyuubi was sealed also, let's make it so Naruto is a year older. Now it's Kakashi being 15 when Naruto got Kyuubi when he was a child. Also remember that Kakashi was 13 when he was promoted to Jounin with Yodaime still being his sensei. That being said, add two years to Yodaime's presumed age, and that would be 26. I didn't get what the question was at first, but I'd think that they were saying it was 24 when he was either introduced in 'Kakashi Gaiden' or when he died. Seems reasonable. I hope I made sense. =3 --LM22102 00:59, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

text: that sounds reasonable 2 me.--71.199.154.43 23:27, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fourth Hokage's age 

message: Ok, why is Sarutobi the third hokage while Tsunade is the fifth? As I recall, Tsunade became hokage after Sarutobi. If anyone more skilled in Naruto lore could clear this mess up, that'd be great. - 213.184.215.12
:You shouldn't change the redirect for the Fourth Hokage to the Third Hokage.  They are completely different people.  In the very first scene of the first episode of Naruto the Fourth Hokage is shown.  He defeats the nine-tailed fox by sealing it into Naruto, and dieing in the process.  Afterwards, the Third Hokage comes out of retirement and takes over Hokage duties once again, rather than name a Fifth.  Only after the Third's death does Tsunade become the next Hokage, and thus the Fifth.  -- Pedantic79 (talk) 07:01, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This redirect won't work correctly until Bugzilla:218 is fixed.  -- Pedantic79 (talk) 08:14, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fourth Hokage (moved from redirect talk) 

message: Akamaru is a Shih Tzu. Why doesn't it say so?
:Becasue he isn't. Who ever said that Akamaru is a Shih Tzu? Have you seen the how Akamaru currently looks in the manga? Akamaru has grown so much that Kiba can even ride him. --64.14.194.26 23:27, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, a few questions...
a) where the heck did you get that he's a shih tzu...!?
b) He looks NOTHING like a shih tzu
c) Shih tzu do NOT grow that big
d)... are shih tzu even capable of becoming nin dogs?
-(R.I.P. Deidy-kun (although I know you won't 'cause you didn't kill Sasuke... (Deidara: -.- thanks a lot...) 01:03, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Akamaru 

message: Is it me or did the newest chaper of Naurto (321) said that kakashi teacher was yondaime hokage? -ScotchMB 19:31, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Yondaime" means "Fourth". It isn't a name. ~SnapperTo 19:39, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  i see.. thank you -ScotchMB 21:58, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  4th hokage name 

message: By any chance, does anyone know where this (copy and paste link to view) image is from? It's far too detailed to be fan art, but I haven't been able to figure out where it's from assuming it is official. I ask because I think it would be more useful than the current picture of Konohagakure, but I don't want to upload it and put it in the article until I know it's legitimate. So, any help would be appreciated. ~SnapperTo 03:50, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Damn, that's impressive. However, I couldn't tell you where it's from. My gut thinks fan art, but my logic says that's impossible. It's an enigma, it is. – Someguy0830 (Talk | contribs) 03:59, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Darn direct link disabling. It's too seemingly accurate and Kishimoto-like to be fan art. My only guess is that it was some kind of promotional thing such as a magazine insert. Maybe someone will be able to verify its origins in the future. In the meantime, it makes for a nice desktop background on lower screen resolutions. ~SnapperTo 20:26, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A section of the url reads "[...].nu/fanart/3691[...]". Is that the original page it was found on? You Can't See Me! 04:58, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That particular version of the image is from a German website, so I don't know what they're saying. Most of the images listed are "fanart", yes, but the fanart is really just images from the manga and anime cropped together in some loosely interesting manner. I only referred to that website's version because it was the largest copy I could find on Google. ~SnapperTo 23:41, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

text: There's a mega-super bird's-eye-view of the village at the start of chapter 115. Maybe that's what you mean? ~SnapperTo 06:32, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map 

message: Yes, we are all aware of the many theories surrounding him. There's the "Naruto's Father" theory, the "Akatsuki Leader" theory, and the "Arashi Uzumaki" theory, and probably more that I've missed. However, Wikipedia is not the place for these theories. So if you're reading this while thinking up the best way to word "Yondaime Hokage's name is Arashi Uzumaki and he is Naruto's dad and the Akatsuki Leader," make it easy for all of us, yourself included, and don't put that down at all.
I've also added a hidden note at the bottom of the Fourth Hokage's section saying essentially the same thing, for those who aren't reading this message (I had forgotten to sign in).
Trust me, you are not the first person to have come up with this theory, and you will not be the last. If you feel the need to tell people so that you can gloat when the truth is revealed (and I suggest you don't, as, *gasp*, the popular theory might be wrong), do so by word of mouth. Remember, stories of Jesus' teachings were spread through Oral Tradition and were not written down for at least sixty years! Thank you for your cooperation (That means you have to cooperate). You Can't See Me! 03:29, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concerning the Fourth Hokage 

message: Is it really accurate to call Isaribi a villager, considering she is from Sea Country? Shouldn't she be listed in some other character list somewhere? The Wretched 08:27, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isaribi as a Villager 

message: Shouldn't the villages "Sunagakure", "Otogakure", "Konohagakure", etc. be titled to simply Hidden Sand Village, Hidden Sound Village, Hidden Leaf Village, etc.? This is because WP:Uses English naming conventions isn't it, even if it's romanized or hepburnized from the manga? Power level (Dragon Ball) 19:49, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know about that. Are those even actual names or just some sort of title or euphemism?--Marhawkman 19:36, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Those are the actual translations. ___(g)akure no Sato (-隠れの里) means Hidden ___ Village. --Pentasyllabic 19:53, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well... That's not what I meant. But I suppose it's really a moot point. My question was whether "Otogakure no Sato" was the actual name or something else.--Marhawkman 17:06, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested name change to Hidden Leaf Village

message: Isn't the Valley of the end where Naruto and Sasuke had there finally battle in the Land of Fire or is it elsewhere? 202.76.132.215 07:03, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Valley of the end 

message: The following pieces of trivia appear to contradict each other:
* "Aka" means "red". Whenever Akamaru eats a soldier pill, his fur turns red.
* "Aka" also means "baby". "Maru" is a suffix for Japanese boys' names. So "Akamaru" means "baby boy".
Given how the other Inuzaka dogs are named, it would infer that Akamaru more likely means "red boy," but I don't know how the name is written in Japanese.  So maybe the second comment should say "Akamaru can also mean baby boy"?  Unless how his name is written actually does mean "baby boy."
* The verb "akaramu", which is only two letters different from Akamaru, means "to become red".
The 2 letters difference, is this referring to how both the verb and name are written in Japanese?  --BrokenSphere 18:39, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Akamaru trivia 

message: Why is there a section on the Kurama clan and a section on Yakumo Kurama?The Kurama clan section mostly talks about Yakumo,so shouldn't the sections be merged?Shonen Jump Master 02:10, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kurama clan 

message: The aerial views of Konohagakure in the manga and the anime show it to be too large to really be a village. It is in fact a City. Besides, it has a huge sports arena and is surrounded by a high and thick fortified city wall. Erudil 17:46, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: A "Village" in name only

message: in trivia it says the creator has a cammo is that true this is what it says
In manga chapter 1 of Naruto, an aerial shot of Konohagakure village featured a billboard advertising Masashi Kishimoto, the creator, author, and illustrator of Naruto can be seen on one of the rooftops.
24.176.173.43 04:17, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  true or false 

message: Er, I checked this article's history out of sheer boredom and noticed that the Summoning Technique (Toads) was added to the 4th's list of jutsu repeatedly and was knocked off every single time. Is there any particular reason for this? You Can't See Me! 02:41, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not something he's particularly well known for. You can add it if you really want to. ~SnapperTo 03:22, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The 4th Hokage and the Summoning Technique 

message: There has to be a link to the geographical region Tierra del Fuego (= Land of Fire) in South America. I was searching for it and came here. --   Avg    19:16, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? Maybe your problem was fixed in the two days since your message, but I don't see any problem with the link to Tierra del Fuego. You Can't See Me! 07:48, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe you could have checked the history section before posting? Thanks Snapper2 for the link btw.--   Avg    19:03, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, my bad. Sorry about that. You Can't See Me! 22:27, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to [[Tierra del Fuego]] 

message: Well, the Uchiha clan article is about 15kb, and the Hyuga clan article is only about 12kb. Do you think it would be better to combine them into one "List of Konoha Clans" article, incorporating all of the other clans from this page and their clansmen from List of Konoha ninja too? You Can't See Me! 04:13, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It'd be simpler if the Hyuga and Uchiha members were just moved to List of Konoha ninja and the clan information was moved here. ~SnapperTo 04:49, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ...Or, we could do that. Good idea! I'll get right on that. You Can't See Me! 04:54, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't really mean that you should, as not all of the members are given ranks. That kink needs to be worked out first. ~SnapperTo 04:56, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is problematic. Making a category solely for Hiashi and Hanabi doesn't work, unless you work clan divisions into the list, which isn't necessary. Any ideas? Sephiroth BCR 05:01, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just put them all under villagers. Maybe not the place you'd look, but it works better. ~SnapperTo 05:32, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fine. I was suggesting such a thing to You Can't See Me, but you did it in any case. Sephiroth BCR 05:33, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea, own pages for the clans were always a bit much. I just added the memberlist for Hyuga and Uchiha to prevent search problems with unranked members. ~ Felcis 14:57, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Several members of the Uchiha Clan seem to be missing from the memberlist. Was this done on purpose or simply forgotten? ~ Dade 0:39, 15 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Re-indent. They were considered insignificant and ignored. Sephiroth BCR 22:43, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: About Hiashi...I was under the impression that he was a Jonin, just like his twin brother. Redxiv 06:15, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: His rank is never given. Sephiroth BCR 06:38, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Shouldn't we add The Uchiha Clan and Hyuga Clan different articles they are one of the most important clans in the show. Uchiha23 3:31, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No. Those articles were a brief introduction and a list of characters. Anything significant that they have is present in the list of clans on this article, or the merged characters in the List of Konoha ninja article. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 19:54, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clans in Konoha 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Hyuuga Hiashi.jpg

message: Shouldnt somebody add that the Uchiha clan have a weapons house, and something about the cats and the granny cat and the little girl.
:This sounds like WP:NOT#IINFO.  At this point, I don't see the significance of the Elder Cat to this article. –Gunslinger47 00:15, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Read this discussion, specifically the great kawa's post. All of your Obito ideas are speculation, original research, and should not be included in the article. Sephiroth BCR (Converse) 03:13, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uchiha Clan 

message: I noticed that the Akimichi clan, and the Hyuga clan are listed as "one of the four noble clans".  What excatly would be the other two noble clans?  I think it's the Uchiha (despite the fact they only have 2 members (3, if you think that Tobi is Obito)), and the Nara clan, for all the medience techniques they have, and being good friends with the Akimichi clan.  
Correct me if I'm wrong about 4 nobles clans, that are just 2, or if my assumptions are wrong/correct. SOTL 16:51, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Noble Clans?