Talk:George Dillman

message: Kyusho-jitsu is does not deal only with chi. It is the art of using pressure points to disable an opponent. No touch knock outs are only a side show. This should be fixed.216.11.202.154 (talk) 14:34, 31 October 2008 (UTC)
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message: Redirects between people and the art they created are done all the time especially when one or the other are deeply intertwined, do not have enough content to stand by themselves, and repeat themselves.  George Dillman and Kyushu jitsu are a classic example of this.Peter Rehse 09:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: redirects

message: Are all semi-successful paranormal frauds going to get entries on Wikipedia or just the martial arts frauds? Austinmayor (talk) 02:49, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Knockout" Chi?

message: Anyone have any idea how to address use of that word? Wikipedia forwards "fantasist" to "Walter Mitty" which isn't indicative of what that word means. Fantasists are somewhat common in the strip-mall martial arts scene, advancing paranormal/supernatural concepts that have no basis in anything credible, but their own willingness to rent a storefront and present their fantasies as being true. Dillman is pretty much the dictionary example for a martial arts fantasist (aka- Bullshido). How do we address that? LoverOfArt (talk) 06:34, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Fantasist

message: Dillman is unfortunately not notable enough for a wiki article.  The citation for making him "famous" is a narrated article of an interview Dillman where Dillman says he taught someone famous, who was famous for things other than what Dillman taught.  It's akin so saying the Alaskan guide is famous because in an interview the Alaskan guide said he and Donald Trump met on vacation and thus he is now "famous" and "notable" because he taught him how to fly fish. 
The above paragraph is not correct.  Dillman knew Ali very well.  Ali sparred with him and eventually sold him his training camp in PA.  Dillman is also a great practitioner of Karate.  He does cause knock-outs with his light strikes (pressure points in the neck) all the time.   He sullied his name with the "no-strike" knock out claims; but he still a great master.   His many schools and thousands of students does make him famous in the karate world in the USA.  (Famous vs. infamous might be a better argument).  Most American Karate masters will have to link their lineage to someone of the Asian decent to get credibility.  Oyata did spend lots of time teaching Dillman which explains the anger he felt when Dillman wrote the books exposing Oyata's training to anyone with $20.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.2.78.121 (talk) 13:39, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  He bought some sports memorabilia and "taught" Ali martial arts all self referenced. 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: George Dillman is a known hoax, I don't want to inherently slander him on the page so I added some of his claims and just mentioned that they were unfounded. I would like to merge or delete this page as he isn't a notable figure. Please let me know if anyone has any concerns.
I suggest if you haven't already to watch the national geographic interview that he did. they basically destroyed all his credibility asking him to perform his moves on one of the channels team members, he blamed the failure on the tongue being in the wrong place. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pothero101 (talk • contribs) 05:53, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Ngl I was very surprised at how positive this article is about him. A light investigation in to "fraud martial arts" yields his name prominently and frequently. He's a prominent promoter of touchless knockouts, and is featured on that page, and yet there's no mention of his touchless knockout activities on this page, despite there being a National Geographic documentary on thone subject heavily featuring him. This seems absurdly conservative even for a BLP. Binkyuk (talk) 14:46, 13 June 2021 (UTC)

text: I've added a very neutral reference to his touchless knockout claims (which it appears there's little dispute that he made, on camera). The previous discussion rejecting the NatGeo episode as a source seemed to focus largely on linking to a youtube rip, but I believe this is poor objection. The original episode undoubtedly exists, and was made by a reputable publisher; I see no reason not to use it as a reliable WP:offline source, and difficulty obtaining it is not a good reason to reject it. Binkyuk (talk) 15:44, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hoaxing