Talk:Piloting

message: The history section needs serious help.  It's mostly unsourced, and gives times in reference to a specific religion's scriptures (e.g. "biblical times" "early Christian times"). David 17:07, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section 

message: Bowditch calls "pilotage" an informal term for "piloting". See . So does: . I suggest changing the title of the article to "Piloting". User:HopsonRoad 02:35, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you think about the preferred term, piloting versus pilotage? These two sources use piloting in chapter headings. Is there a different preferred term in British usage? User:HopsonRoad 03:03, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't know about UK usage -- US Navy usage is piloting, as in "piloting watch." NE Ent 08:59, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

text: NASA uses "pilotage" as "A method of navigation in which the pilot, flying at low altitudes, uses visual references and compares symbols on aeronautical charts with surface features on the ground in order to navigate." User:HopsonRoad 12:50, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: On land, the term "land navigation" incorporates the use of bearing from compasses etc. e.g. User:HopsonRoad 16:02, 13 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pilotage => Piloting  

message: Navigational transit and Leading line are stub articles that are aspects of piloting. I recommend that their content be brought here and be redirected from their current titles to here. User:HopsonRoad 03:00, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I'd lean more to merging those two into one, but merging them here makes just as much sense. NE Ent 21:02, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I feel that the two topics aren't notable enough to be expanded much beyond a stub. That's why I recommend the merger, here. We'll wait to see if anyone else weighs in. User:HopsonRoad 02:55, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: Re  -- it's called a range, not a range axis. NE Ent 20:31, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for this observation, NE Ent. I call your attention to P. 26 of the "USCG Auxiliary National Short Range Aids to Navigation Training Guide" (a reference at the point in question). It says, "Ranges are an aligned pair of beacons placed to define a line down the center of a navigable channel." It further refers to that line as a "range axis" in the bullet on cross-track factor. Perhaps you have a USN source that contradicts this, but at least this source distinguishes between the pair of beacons, the range, and the line they form, the range axis. Sincerely, User:HopsonRoad 22:04, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  American terminology 

message: As in references used by mariners for piloting. You could mention the series of books published for mariners providing detailed descriptions of the navigational marks and landmarks of a region, titled "(placemane) pilot", eg Channel pilot, Red Sea pilot etc. Also mention channel markers and buoyage, as marks specifically deployed for pilotage. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 05:33, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for this suggestion, Peter (Southwood). Nominally, the channel markers and buoys are already covered in the term, Sea mark. The idea of having the pilot series of references is a good one that I will look into. Cheers, User:HopsonRoad 12:45, 19 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Piloting references 

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