Talk:Well, Just You Wait!

message: The captain of the ship is not a hippo, but a WALRUS, watch the ship episode again!
Myrmeleon formicarius 07:20, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is more. If I remember correctly, that episode ends with the walrus throwing the wolf overboard shouting "Nu zayats, nu pogodi!" - normally these final words are the wolf's. I suppose that is a pun on a secondary meaning of the Russian word "zayats" (stowaway)? --Pan Gerwazy 10:18, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is a pun (that's not the end of the episode, btw, but the end of the intro).  But he's not a walrus - walruses have large hard-to-miss tusks coming out of their mouths, and don't have legs. Esn 11:36, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, I will have to have a look again. I do not really remember a hippo, by the way. --Pan Gerwazy 12:23, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Bro, digga sure it's a male otter. --Ljrfnfvfhe (talk) 03:20, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: He's not a walrus. He's the best supporting character onscreen in the series in my opinion... he's a sea lion and I listed him in the character section due to his overwhelming level of importance in that single episode. The rest of the supporting characters never actually played a role the way he did so he'd deserve to be listed due to being the most consequential character in a single episode aside from Volk and Zayats. Volk remains my favorite main character, of course, due to his awesome design, but the Sea Lion Captain is definitely my favorite supporter. - Zarbon (talk) 21:24, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: HIPPOPOTAMUS

message: So is suggesting this article: http://www.cotidianul.ro/index.php?a=6199&shift=1 (in Romanian) bogdan ʤjuʃkə | Talk 21:25, 3 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: New episodes in December 2005?

message: What the hell?  Visiting somebody with flowers is considered a sexual innuendo? Americans are completely out of their minds. I'm sorry for making such generalizations, but it seems to me that there are major cultural differences here.  I'll change that part slightly to reflect this.. Esn 08:29, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just saw a clip on Google Video of Nu Pogodi and it DID seem like the wolf might have been intended an analogy for homosexuals and pedophiles (which are the same thing to people... ugh).  I came here to see if that was something that had been discussed here.  I do have to acknowledge that, it's coming from another culture, but here (Canada) the pink shirt, the effete behaviour, the limp wrist, and the pinky finger sticking up all imply a homosexual, not just an artsy type.  The wolf's continuing attempts to get the young hare alone did seem like the cartoon might be trying to compare a wolf trying to eat a young rabbit to a man trying to get a child alone.  Like perhaps it was teaching children to be wary of men in pink shirts with limp wrists and their pinkies in the air.  That was, in fact, my immediate impression, after only halfway through one skit.  (Only three were in the video) Mr. Cat 02:54, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Th cartoon is from different epoch, 60s. Coincidence. By the way, in Russia, a male homosexual is called goluboy, i.e., "sky blue".  `'mikka (t) 03:00, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'm too young to say for sure, but I think a North American cartoon from the 60s with a guy in a pink shirt, a pinkie in the air, and a limp wrist would still be implying he was a homosexual.  So I don't think the era itself could be all 05:30, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the only thing I can say is that I have not met anyone from the former USSR who interpreted it in that way.  We must remember that homosexualism was really not a part of popular culture as it is in the West right now.  It was simply a subject that was not familiar to audiences, so why would the creators put it in there, especially since everything had to get past the Soviet censors who would certainly not approve anything that they thought implied homosexuality (which was illegal in the Soviet Union)?  I think it would be more accurate to say the the Wolf had a "feminine" side (as also shown by his many artistic talents).  But one doesn't have to be a homosexual or a pedophile to have a feminine side - and besides that, there is some evidence that Wolf had an eye for women in the cartoons (such as in episode 3 where he had that painting on his motorbike) Esn 06:58, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll accept your assurances that it wasn't a common perception.  Have you talked about the cartoon with any homosexuals who grew up with the cartoon or perhaps were 'in the closet' when the cartoon was airing?  I'm still curious to know from that perspective.  Mr. Cat 07:38, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I did not.  Anyone who fits that description, feel free to comment. Esn 03:57, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Esn's right, the show was pretty enjoyable and innocuous. Any interpretations that there were sexual connotations and innuendos in this show are just plain false. I don't know anyone who could have seen the film's details in such a manner. I think its just a matter of culture. In the USSR it was alrite for two men to kiss each other on the cheeks as a form of a greeting but in the United States, anyone would interpret those same two men as homosexuals when they weren't at all. Also, the article refers to "Hare" as "him", the rabbit was clearly a female character in the cartoon. --MarshallBagramyan 04:27, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Umm... no.  If Hare was female, why did Hare wear the clothes of a boy? And in episode 17, both the wolf and the hare wore gentlemanly clothes in the opening sequence, and had white beards.  I can't believe anyone could think that the Hare was female, that just seems so bizarre... yes, the hare was voiced by a woman, but it was common in Russian cartoons to have young children of both sexes voiced by women. Esn 15:58, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes there was also an episode where the wolf brings roses to Hare and even decide to drink something like champagne together. However, I find it bizarre that someone would consider the rabbit for a male. Maybe Hare was a male...--MarshallBagramyan 23:19, 8 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I think it would be hard to find such person, since in USSR homosexuality was considered a major mental disorder and on top of that was as much despised in public, as (for example) pedophilia. Also that is why there were no common signs or gestures etc that could help identify a homosexual (and even if they were, they probably existed between very small groups of people), and that is why acceptible borders of man-to-man relations were broader than the ones in the Western countries.Pdfourteen 21:02, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Good point - but the references to "sexual innuendoes" were already there when I came across this page, so I edited it to make it clear that they were NOT innuendoes of any kind in the culture in which the films were made.  One could remove the references alltogether I suppose, but someone would probably just add them back in... Esn 02:54, 21 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Just saw "waltzing" in the text. I am sorry, guys, but that is a mistake. The tune (and that is what counts, Argentine tango comes in many flavours) is definitely a Argentinian tango tune. This must be corrected. The point I made about men dancing tango with other men, still stands by the way.--Pan Gerwazy 12:34, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I always loved the Volk as he's likely my favorite children's cartoon character due to his appearance and overall attitude. He isn't intended to be homosexual, he simply has effeminate flamboyant tendencies, as do many others. Just because someone waltzes around like an idiot or dresses up in female attire and/or prances around with pink underwear, doesn't necessarily mean they're homosexual. The Volk is designed to be the archetype goon; pretty much the punk on the street who has gold chains and smokes a lot... he even has a Wolf woman logo on his motorycle, coincidentally making him straight. He just wants to act stupid because it's the best way to be, especially due to the fact that he's meant to be the "fall" character, which means he gets beat up as an eventual result of his idiotic yet lovely behavior. Generally, he's probably a few hundred times better to me as a character in terms of characteristics in comparison to the Looney Tunes, which I didn't enjoy half as much, except maybe for Wile E. Coyote, who managed to be almost as awesome... just not enough in the magnitude of unique thug behavior. - Zarbon (talk) 21:17, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Sexual Innuendoes?!

message: A response to MarshallBagramyan: The roses were an attempt of reconciliation on Wolf's part - obviously, it never came to anything.  It wasn't romantic at all.  Also - episode 6 (I believe) when Hare is a "pioneer" (equivalent to "Boy Scout" in America) along with the other lads on the plane.  Quite simply: Hare does not look female to me.  I'm looking at a picture and trying to picture him as female right now, and it's creeping me out.  And for a final piece of proof, I scanned an image from a "Nu Pogodi" book that I bought in Russia some time ago.  If you can read Russian, you will notice that it talks about Hare in the male tense.  
I do believe that this constitutes conclusive proof. --Esn 00:10, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually "pioneer" is not a boyscout and both boys and girls were "allowed" to join. Anyway, Hare is male simply because the word "Hare" itself has a masculine gender in Russian (Zayatz). A female hare is called "Zaychiha". Pdfourteen 20:23, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

text: - look, notice how the book refers to him in the male tense?  Can't we put this issue to rest already?  *sigh* Yes, hare was voiced by a woman - it was common in Russian cartoons for young boys to be voiced by female voices. Esn 02:43, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: British pantos is obviously sexist and spreads misandry, a common thing in the Uk where most males are either weak pussies or gay.84.22.2.204 (talk) 13:43, 11 December 2010 (UTC)

text: The visual feminine characteristics are blushing cheeks and eyelashes.  In American cartoons, those two are usually shorthand for a female character.  That's why the newer Mighty Mouse cartoons made me uncomfortable as a child. --BlueNight 12:56, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hare is not female

message: It seems that there were at least three unofficial episodes that do not fall into the episode numbering system and aren't well known.  Interesting discussion over here (if you can read Russian).  Apparently they were made at Ecran Studio rather than at Soyuzmultfilm and were done without Kotyonochkin's involvement.  They were directed by Yu. Butyrin, and the scenario was written by A. Kurlyanskiy.
Also, there was one cartoon made before the first official episode, as part of "Vesyolaya Karyusel". Esn 09:17, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, and here's something else.  Just You Wait, Glass Factory! О фильме: Фрагмент передачи "Вокруг смеха", в гостях которой был показан данный фрагмент журнала "Фитиль": маленький мульт "Ну, погоди!" Esn 09:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Here's a link to a download for one of the "unofficial" episodes:  (which cannot be bought anywhere, as of now, and is quite rare) Esn 23:47, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Unofficial" episodes

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replies: text: A rationale has been added.  (Not by me.)  --BlueNight 12:53, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
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message: Why "hare"? The creature is commonly known as a "bunny" which is a kid word for rabbit.
"Bunny" is the proper translation in this case. No need to translate the biological species name. 
In Russian, rabbit ("krolik") typically is a farm animal, it lives in a cage and moves slowly, that's why all fairy tales involve "zayats" (wild rabbit or hare). In English speaking cultures the long eared creature that moves fast is Rabbit/Bunny.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.7.86.218 (talk) 02:46, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: On the contrary, "hare" is used consistently in English in fables and fairy tales. See: The Tortoise and the Hare and . So the direct translation is warranted.--Hq3473 (talk) 17:08, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hare?

message: What the heck does "Dyor njagi" mean? I have seen episode no. 9 in Nu pogodi, and it said "Dyor njagi", and I don't know what it is!
--193.180.253.124 (talk) 11:27, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Dvornyagi (Дворняги) means stray dogs (full - dvorovie sobaki - homeless dogs, yard dogs, watchdogs)... --Yuriy Lapitskiy ~ 16:44, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Dyor njagi

message: Can anyone please tell me, who the heck that guy is at the picture below?
It was seen on “Nu, pogodi!” Episode 2 (Televÿpusk) --- (Tvorcheskoye Obédineniye “Ekran”)
Ну, погоди! - 2 Телевыпуск (Творческое Объединение „Экран“)
--193.180.253.124 (talk) 12:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: That “Black Roman Guy” on “Nu, pogodi!” Episode 2 (Televÿpusk)

message: What does “Berezka v Luzhnikakh” (Березка в Лужниках) mean? I have seen the label on “Nu, pogodi” - Episode 18.
--193.180.253.124 (talk) 12:20, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a store name. A supposedly expensive supermarket in Moscow.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.169.169.1 (talk) 22:15, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Березка в Лужниках

message: > The Wolf supposedly represents a middle-aged man (in his early 40s).
This is a PoV, and an unbased one.  The Wolf is often dressed as a "stilyaga", most of which were about 16-22yo. In other circumstances he is dressed and behaving as a street "hooligan", again in his late teens or early twenties.  I don't see any hint that he is about 40.
As for smoking, the Wolf smokes occasionally in some episodes, again like a teenager who smokes in order to look "adult".
:At the very least, this should have been referenced. I removed it. Volk is Volk. I don't see how he represents any age-group in particular, though I guess it's clear he doesn't represent the octogenarians. ---Sluzzelin talk 08:29, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ehm sorry, Urod had already removed it. Didn't even notice it. ---Sluzzelin talk 08:34, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Age" of the wolf and his smoking habits 

message: OK, may Russian lesbian who enjoyed to watch this cartoon in her childhood join to discussion? 
(I'm sorry for my really bad English. I hope you'll be able to understand at least half the meaning.) 
Wolf wears pink shirt because he's "styliaga" - mod, if you like. Mods were unsuitable role models for Soviet children.
Hare is male. Though some very young children really thinks sometimes that maybe he's a girl. He's not. (But three or four years ago I've heard on TV that the creators themselves had heard about this misconception and even wanted to make sequel about Wolf's intelligent son and Hare's rebellious daughter. I don't know what happened to this idea.)
And I'm sure that cartoon creators didn't mean nothing "gay". There was no sexual subtext. Wolf, being antisocial person, disliked clean and nice Hare, that's the only reason why he chased the boy. Hare impersonated Alla Pugachova just for audience's laughs... But there always are some gay or just slash-minded viewers (and I was slash-minded long before I've heard the word "slash"... and long before I understood my own preferences) who like to think there is something "intriguing" in characters' relationships. And, well, there always was some anecdotes, in my adolescence at least (I've heard those mostly about Winnie-The-Poo, but some about Wolf and Hare too). So it's strange to assume that Russian and even Sowiet viewers never-never-never!saw it that way. I even had read slash about Wolf and Hare on Russian slash-site, so I know I'm not the only one who have such strange ideas about children's cartoon. But I'm just playing with this idea - i don't really think they are (or any single one of them is) gay. it's not Societ Ai No Kusabi - it's Societ Tom and Jerry. Are Tom  and Jerry gay?
Well, that's all. Thanks for trying to read this.
Your Redcrow.
:I agree that it's clear that the Hare is male. If necessary, it can probably even be referenced. The stilyaga allusion is interesting, however. I searched a bit, but couldn't find anything on this. If you happen to have a link to or a quotation from a reliable source, that would certainly be worth including. ---Sluzzelin talk 05:15, 5 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: OK, may Russian lesbian who enjoyed to watch this cartoon in her childhood join to discussion?

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message: In USA, UK and Canada this cartoon is called as The Big Bad Wolf 109.174.115.191 (talk) 06:01, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename this article 

message: I'm Russian, and a very big and experienced Nu Pogodi fan.
A track in episode 20: Chocolate Bunny (Shokoladnyi Zayats) - it's the famous (or, I would say, the infamous) song sung several years ago by Narcisse Pierre, a black singer (of Cameroun origin) from Russian Fame Factory (Fabrika Zvyozd). In fact, it's Pierre's trademark song. Its words (written by a russian celebrity, musical producer and poet Max Fadeyev) are smooth enough, well-rhymed, but quite cheesy, and overstuffed with low-class sexual innuendos. Narcisse Pierre is known as a demonstrative skirt-chaser, it makes part of his P.R. Many Russians consider Narcisse Pierre as "mauvais-gout singer", and particularly, they consider this song as very annoying, and Volk seems quite annoyed, too, while hears this song, apparently rather appreciated by Zayats. - 217.195.220.188 (talk) 12:51, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Musical tracks 

message: Hi, people. I was wondering if anyone might know which track plays in episode number 3 at 6:00-7:00 into the episode's 10 minute runtime. It plays when Volk attempts to lift the Zayats with a crane and stacks the canisters on top of each other to climb up and toy with him. It's one I've been trying to find myself and add to the soundtrack section but have had no success in locating the title. I'd appreciate any help on this one. - Zarbon (talk) 18:42, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Still no info on our missing track here. Anyone care to elaborate, feel free to aid us in our problematic struggle to locate the title. - Zarbon (talk) 22:20, 22 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help with Soundtrack / Music 

message: I've added information on the production of the cartoon, and I used several articles of Komsomolskaya Pravda as references. However, after reading a bit about it (I should have done before), it seems that it is not the most trustworthy newspaper. Therefore, I replaced some of those refs by other sources (I also use Novaya Gazeta, polit.ru, NEWSru, and an individual article on a 2005 press conference), but I was not able to find all the infos of KP on those sites (in case they are true) and removed most of the "unconfirmed" ones again for now. Please note that I don't speak Russian and used machine translation to understand the texts. I'd appreciate if someone could confirm the following infos with more reliable sources:
*http://www.kp.ru/daily/23594/45437/
:*It specifies the year Soyuzmultfilm invited the three writers as 1967. That would be an important info, but is it confirmed by other sources?
*http://www.kp.ru/daily/24131.3/350965/
:*Apparently, Kurlyandsky is quoted. Is it confirmed somewhere else that inspiration for using a wolf and a hare came from Russian folk tales?
:*It states that Sokolsky quit work on Nu, pogodi! because officials demanded radical changes, and then Kotyonochkin took over. I haven't added this because I didn't find anything comparable on the other sites, though it would be an important fact, but is it true?
:*A specific scene that was "almost cut" by the censors is described. Can it be confirmed by another source?
:*In the article on the press conference, I read that production resumed as the series even had fans in the party leadership. KP gives a much more detailed description involving a conversation between Papanov and Soviet head of state Podgorny. Mentioned anywhere else?
:*I kept the statement that Vladimir Vysotsky was originally considered as the Wolf's voice, as it was already in the Wikipedia article before the KP article was even released. But it would be good to know where the info came from.
Maybe I'm "overreacting", but when I read that KP has published canards multiple times, I was unsure how useful it is as a reference. How to deal with it on an unpolitical topic like Nu, pogodi! ? --Grandy02 (talk) 19:06, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Komsomolskaya Pravda articles 

message: Where are the air dates from? Most of them are the same as those on Russian Wikipedia, but some are different, including that of the first epsiode (English: 14 June 1969, Russian: 1 January 1969). Anyway, they are no citations (for the Soviet episodes) in either case (at least I didn't notice any). Animator.ru and Soyuzmultfilm's website only mention the years, but no exact dates (the same goes for most Soviet cartoons). Any reliable source for the dates? --Grandy02 (talk) 09:42, 31 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source of air dates 

message: I don't know if this is worth mentioning but one of the things that we do know know about Zayats' personal TV show life from that he is a actor or at very lest an ad model. In episode one he appears on a ad for juice, episode nine when he is singing on TV, and again in episode thirteen when he shown as a cultural attache, greeting international athletes at the airport arriving for the 1980 summer Olympic games.     
Monoaux (talk) 20:53, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zayats' celebrity with in the show?  

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: One of the users called it "vandalism" and reverted my changes. I undid his reversal. My best guess is that English is not that user's native language. I further guess that his native language is Russian. Therefore, I ask that user to please defer to English speakers when translating "Nu, pogodi!" to English.
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thread_title:  Changed the awkward, nonsensical phrase "Well, just you wait" to "You just wait" 

message: Volk, with the same basic long haired design, same name, & & same voice actor, appears in a couple of short animated films chasing "Zayats" in "A Bag of Apples" (1974) & "Ded Moroz & A Gray Wolf" (1978), as well as a series of PSAs about window insulation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:601:CC80:EB4:688B:D2F3:E029:FF2B (talk) 05:03, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other appearances. 

message: Should we add a list of channels globally which did broadcast this? It wasn't broadcast only in Russia. Julian.exe (talk) 21:02, 24 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  International broadcast