Talk:St. Louis University High School

message: Good "start" but lacks references. For instance who knows if the alumni is correct (wiki is not a great reference). However påics are good. Welcome. Victuallers 11:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Assess

message: Someone needs to take out the stuff about SLUH's quizbowl program winning districts, because they are in a really easy district, their team is no good, and any time they play a decent team they get plain old spanked.
Sounds hostile! The quizbowl team has won medals in numerous events, however, including the state competiton and the Washington University High School Academic Challenge. Also, in 2005, they came within one game of winning the state title. M.manary 15:09, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The Quizbowl Program

message: Is Dr. Dooley a recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor?  His bio page here on wikipedia mentions only that he was awarded the Congressional Gold Medal.  There is a significant difference in the awards and it should be cleared up if anyone has any info.
He was awarded the "Congressional Gold Medal of Honor" which is commonly referred as the "Congressional Medal of Honor".
No, the page was correct.  A Congressional Gold Medal and the Congressional 
Medal of Honor are different medals.  One is awarded for gallantry in combat and the other for being a great citizen of the U.S.  Dooley was awarded the Gold Medal from Congress for his humanitarian work and not a feat of bravery in combat. 129.33.119.12 20:17, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dooley

message: someone familiar with the subject, please verify all edits by 67.106.94.3 (has a history of vandalism) Jens Nielsen 14:45, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have looked at this user's contributions. . .the ones about noteable alumni all seem to be accurate, though I am unfamiliar with the soccer player.  I have not been able to verify the edits about the ACT scores for the class of 2006, but am working on it.  TMS63112 16:20, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I found an article in a Jesuit newsletter that confirms at least three memebers of the class of '06 scored a 36 on the ACT.    TMS63112 20:09, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Verification

message: Take a look at that project for ideas on improving this article. --Kbh3rdtalk 04:44, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Schools]] 

message: The paragraph about the supposed "uproar" over the athletic facilities constructed through the Vision 2000 Campaign gives me concern.  I work at the school, and I dispute that the construction has caused an "uproar."  Some have been critical, true, but the complaints have hardly risen to the level of an uproar.  Most of the complaints have been from students grumbling about the extra distance they'll have to walk from their parking lot to the school entrance.  One faculty member called the campaign the "no athlete left behind" plan, but less than 20% of the money raised went to athletics.  Those changes are simply the most visible.  
I also dispute that the school's weekly newspaper, the Prep News, has taken an "anti-Vision 2000" stance as the article suggests.  To the contrary, I believe their articles about the new expansion have been quite positive. 
I plan to edit that portion of the article, but wanted to post first to offer others the chance to comment.
I go to the school and am a Senior this year. I would contend that there is a general disinterest or even disliking of V2000, but also that any contributions on the subject should wait till the changes are actually finished. M.manary 15:20, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsure of the "Uproar" over Vision 2000 

message: I believe that the details of Buzz Westfall's tenure belong in the Buzz Westfall article.  It should suffice here to simply state "7-term county executive" or something to that effect.  The dates of his terms and even that he served the longest to date are not really germane to this topic.  It's a matter of proper style and organization of information. --Kbh3rdtalk 17:19, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buzz 

message: Removed...issue resolved Patke@sluh.org 20:09, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there guidelines somwehere for what constitutes "notable" when building a list of alumni such as this?  In particular I wonder about those with no Wikipedia article, such as Jack Boehm and Keith C. Schwab.  I'm sure the alumni rolls include many, many corporate executives and college professors.  What makes associate professor Schwab more notable than, say, Bob Scherrer ('77), chairman of physics and astronomy at Vanderbilt, and author?  Not to pick on these two (Boehm and Schwab) in particular, but there is nothing to indicate what's notable about them.  Is the standard that they should be notable enough to warrant a separate Wikipedia article, and if so, should such an article be created first, at least as a stub?  Are all the tens of thousands of former corporate CEOs considered "notable" just for that, or is something particularly notable about their accomplishments in that position required?  Likewise, does the mere act of receiving university tenure make one notable? --Kbh3rdtalk 17:19, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: came across this bio and saw he supposedly attended SLU until dropping out at 16 - could is be that he was actually attending SLUH instead? Just dropping off his name here but need to follow up with more research:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_R._Stettinius,_Sr.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.173.47.176 (talk) 15:04, 20 June 2012 (UTC)

text: I think "Humanitarianism/Activism" should work, though would like to see if anyone else comes up with something even better.  Humanitarianism itself wouldn't cover it.  And I agree that would be a more accurate category than Medicine for Dooley.  (Do the freshmen still read his book?) --Kbh3rdtalk 19:06, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Alumni 

message: I have made a working example of a copy of the notable alumni section organized by field at User:Kbh3rd/Alumni.  See what you think, and feel free to edit that page.  I'm not certain that doing this would be for the best and am interested in your others' opinions.  --Kbh3rdtalk 15:10, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think "Humanitarianism/Activism" should work, though would like to see if anyone else comes up with something even better.  Humanitarianism itself wouldn't cover it.  And I agree that would be a more accurate category than Medicine for Dooley.  (Do the freshmen still read his book?) --Kbh3rdtalk 19:06, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organization of alumni 

message: I've gone and implemented the organization, having received positive feedback elsewhere from a respected editor of this page.
This classification scheme is probably not perfect.  Please show proposed reclassifications on this project page.  One problem that rather jumps out at me is Henry Hampton, who fell under Entertainment because of the "filmmaker" description.  Entertainment probably doesn't fit him, but I don't think a Documentary Filmmaker section should be created just for him.  Suggestions welcome. --Kbh3rdtalk 21:00, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think "Humanitarianism/Activism" should work, though would like to see if anyone else comes up with something even better.  Humanitarianism itself wouldn't cover it.  And I agree that would be a more accurate category than Medicine for Dooley.  (Do the freshmen still read his book?) --Kbh3rdtalk 19:06, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Initial organization 

message: I meant only to remove the "'83" from Clark's mention as Dean of Students, but the revert button removed all of 68.94.92.101's edits.  However, I can't find a dean of students on the school website, and Dr. Schenkenberg's retirement is not mentioned.  Even if announced, it doesn't need a parenthetical remark in the infobox, IMHO -- just change the name after the fact. --Kbh3rdtalk 14:41, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits by 68.94.92.101: Schenkenberg & Clark 

message: Is there any particular reason why this article is titled using "Saint" rather than "St.", whereas everywhere else within the article other than the title uses "St.", as does the school's own website? I'd love to move the page to St. Louis University High School and reverse the redirect, but I just had a weird sense that there's a backstory here ...  Mlaffs (talk) 12:51, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The only backstory I'm aware of is that the school is officially registered as a not-for-profit corporation with the word "saint" spelled out.  But since it is commonly abbreviated, I think we should proceed as you suggest and re-title the article.  Even the official school seal says "St. Louis University High." Patke@sluh.org (talk) 21:58, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I believe that the school takes its name from the university which takes its name from the city, not directly from the saint; the city, of course, is named after the saint.  Because the high school takes its name from the university, it would make perfect sense for both of those articles to adopt the same usage.  Paradoxically, the university article uses "Saint", wherease the city article uses "St."  Given my logic it would make more sense for it to be the other way around, if different at all.  I believe that this issue has been hashed through on the talk pages of both of those articles; if so, the editors of those two pages came to opposite resolutions.  Perhaps a reading of those conversations, if they exist, could shorten the discussion here.  I do believe that consistency argues for common usage here and in the university article. --Kbh3rdtalk 02:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saint? 

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message: did Robert Hyland's father, the famous physician, also attend SLUH?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.233.137.186 (talk) 20:12, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Hyland

message: There are (at least, were) only 2 billiard tables not 20+.  The others are (pocket) pool and snooker tables.  Billiard tables have no pockets.
207.178.249.226 (talk) 17:30, 29 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fr. Hagan is rolling over 

message: To answer the above question, yes there are standards for an alumni list.  Anyone on it has to meet the Wikipedia standard for notability for biographical articles found at WP:BIO.  That means either they have to have an existing Wikipedia article, which shows that they have met the standard, or, enough referencing to independent, reliable sources to meet the standard at WP:BIO and be able to create one. You don't have to create an article to include someone, you just have to have adequate referencing to create one. Note that referencing to the school is not enough (not independent).  Who's who is not a reliable source.  A corporate website is not an independent reference for an employee of the company.  (note that most CEO's are not notable).  Notability does not equal fame or importance.  It means that reliable secondary sources are writing about a subject in detail.  An encyclopedia is by definition a tertiary source.  It only covers what secondary sources are writing about.
I have trimmed out all the ones without adequate secondary referencing.  Warner may be ok, but I do not see adequate referencing (or in many cases, any referencing) on the others I have removed.  Please do not replace them without better references. Gtwfan52 (talk) 03:40, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I won't quibble about having a Wiki page.  Strikes me as silly, since anyone can have a Wiki page, but I'll let that go.  Beyond that, now case by case: (1) So you now concede Jack Warner, which I guess means you didn't check this carefully the first time through.  Since you make sweeping eliminations, I suspect you haven't checked the others carefully.  I recommend that you eliminate one-by-one, state your rationale for each, and then we deal with them individually.  (2) The scholars and scientists could all be backed up with detailed resumes.  Not hard to do.  Some references already included, but you seem to have ignored those.  Of course they are not discussed as much as many others, e.g. pop entertainers, but then you seem to be taking fame as the measure of notability.  I suspect you do not really want to take that step.  Please eliminate, one-by-one, those that you suspect, and avoid the quick-and-easy sweeping elimination.  I'll then take a look at each one, as well as your rationale for elimination, and if it seems warranted, I'll check to see whether the reference section can be appropriately supplemented.Berthold11 (talk) 04:10, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: See your talk page, User:Berthold11.  When you are ready to have a reasonable discussion and have learned what you need to know to have it, I will be happy to discuss the content of the article here. Gtwfan52 (talk) 16:27, 24 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable alumni listing 

message: This article is beginning  to  sound promotional  in  parts. To  avoid more 'meat-cleaver' pruning, -  which  may  even come from  me, please see WP:WPSCH/AG. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 11:18, 11 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Promotional  and over-detailed 

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message: can we get a logo that has better resolution? The one there now is pixelated.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.111.227.15 (talk) 14:22, 30 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logo is atrocious