Talk:Isham Jones

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The Isham Jones band made a series of popular gramophone records for Brunswick throughout the 1920s. He led one of the most popular dance bands in the 1920s and 1930s. His first successful recording, Wabash Blues written by Dave Ringle and Fred Meinken, was recorded in 1921 by Isham Jones and his Orchestra. This million-seller stayed twelve weeks in the U.S. charts, six at No. 1.[1]
The footnote cites an ASV CD, "Chart Toppers of the Twenties," as the source for the chart positions. The notes were probably written by Peter Dempsey, who would have been using one of the Joel Whitburn books as his reference source. There was no such thing as a hit chart before the "Your Hit Parade" program instituted the first one, late in 1935 or 1936. Whitburn's charts are concocted from a witches brew of alleged sales figures, local newspaper data and other sources, but it cannot be regarded as authoritative for the years before 1935. "Wabash Blues" was a very successful record, but there is no way that it sold a million copies or more; the economics and manufacturing end of the record buisness in 1921 did not allow for a single record to move quite that many units.Pinikadia 21:55, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cannot know Chart Positions for Early 1920s Records 

message: I have wasted too much time trying to verify this. 
Here is the copyright 
On the Alamo; words by Gilbert 
Keyes and Joe Lyons, music by 
Isham Jones [of U. S.] [9622' 
© Mar. 17, 1922; 2 c. Apr. 12, 
1922; E 538052; Tell Taylor, inc., Chicago. 
and I found the assignment  (I got the scan)
assigned on  to Forster Music Publisher, Inc.
I even found the original copyright for Taylor's big hit
Down by the old mill stream ; words 
and music by Tell Taylor. Chicago, 
Star music pub. [19709 
© Aug. 12, 1910; 2 c. Aug. 15, 
1910; E 238432; Tell Taylor, Chicago, 111. 
But nothing on this unsupported statement      
(composed & published in 1911)
If anybody can confirm this, please do
Until then, it is removed
My info added to * "On the Alamo" page 
Tillywilly17 (talk) 11:50, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  * "[[On the Alamo]]" recorded 1922 (composed & published in 1911) 

message: Without a pre-meditated plan, I did a reorganization of the discography section on this page. I was compelled by two song lists that contained at least a half-dozen duplicates, and were missing major hits, (Who's Sorry Now and The World Is Waiting for Sunrise, for example). I was guided by a spreadsheet list, already in sequential order (by catalog #s and release dates).
My goal was to create a solid list of eventful hits, without making the list larger than it was, which I did. Isham Jones has a substantial legacy of dominating hits during his prime, and he deserves a better accounting that what we had. What I did was productive, but made me more aware of how insufficient this section was and is. All the songs 1920-1925 made at least the top 5, are in sequential order, with very basic info. We can work together to identify all page links, add label and catalog info, etc., or just clean up the list as is if others do not share my evaluation. I hope nobody impulsively reverts the edit, which is based on my knowledge of his career and recordings, and corrects (what I saw as numerous errors and ommissions). I used Whitburn's listings as my basic guide. 
If anybody wants to jump in and fine tune the list, great. 1930-34 still has to be reviewed, I can do that if needed, and also the pre-1920 stuff. Thanks. Tillywilly17 (talk) 00:18, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  reorganization of the discography section 

message: If nobody shows up. I will overwrite all the useless unsourced statements Tillywilly17 (talk) 01:43, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  If nobody shows up. I will overwrite all the useless unsourced statements 

message: It's highly confusing to have a section titled "Chart-topping compositions 1920–1934," half of which are NOT Isham Jones compositions.  This needs to be divided into two sections, one for compositions, and one for hits Jones had with other people's songs.  I'll do it, and please feel free to revise.Jhlechner (talk) 15:22, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compositions vs. recordings