Talk:Wars of Scottish Independence

message: 1307-1314 appears to be missing, including Bannockburn.  I suspect this has been accidentally deleted during editing and can be restored from an earlier version.  Hyperman 42 19:11, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion request 

message: "The Wars of Scottish Independence were a series of military campaigns fought between the independent Kingdom of Scotland and the Kingdom of England in the late 13th and early 14th centuries."
I've removed the independent from this statement. There's no reason for it to go before the Kingdom of Scotland in this particular context.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.194.215.249 (talk) 08:28, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Edit 

message: I always believed the story of the good Scots fighting the nasty English. But after 50 years I'm no longer so sure. The original kingdom of the Scots, from Ireland, was gaelic and based in the highland north west. The lowlands were (mainly)the Anglo-saxon kingdom of Bernicia, later part of England. When the expansionist Scottish kings acquired the lowlands, they acquired in effect an English Empire - or an empire in England. It was a pyrrhic victory since the demographic consequence was that 'Scotland' then ceased to be a country of the Scots, and became rather the country of the northern English, albeit with a gaelic fringe. With that in mind these 'wars of independence' look very different from the traditional story - instead they look  more like an imperial power seeking to protect earlier conquests; or perhaps more like a civil war between Britain's two Anglo-saxon kingdoms. Once it is put under the microscope little in 'traditional' Scottish history ever turns out to be quite what one has always been told it is.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.5.5.22 (talk) 12:54, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It is true that Scottish history has a lot of grey areas, but that is true of all history. Everybody wants their own side to be the good guys. However we should not confuse folklore with history. Folklore always favours the home team, with good heroes and evil villains; but history must strive to remain objectively neutral. Sometimes the grey areas simply have to remain grey. That said, your thesis here seems to have a lot of POV spin, and rewriting the history because you don't like the folklore is always a fools errand. Mediatech492 (talk) 16:18, 16 July 2012 (UTC)

text: A specific point in this thread in regard to an improvement to the article, the purpose of a talk page, is not evident. If this is, as it would appear, a typical forum posting, you are very well aware you must not. Mutt Lunker (talk) 18:12, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wars of Independence or Scottish Imperialism? 

message: Interestingly Scottish historian Neil Oliver in a recent BBC TV programme identifies the prime drivers for independence not Scotland's Anglo-Norman aristocrats, still less 'the people', but rather Scotland's clerics.
Oliver suggests that it was Scotland's bishops, who did not wish to come under the supervision of the Archbishop of York, who actively prompted, promoted and preached armed 'rebellion'.
I must leave it to others to research Oliver's observations further. Cassandra.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.7.102.197 (talk) 13:22, 27 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Role of the Bishops 

message: What war is it we’re the baby died at the start 
In the documentary that i watched thanks xx❤️ 213.107.48.3 (talk) 09:25, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scottish wars of independence