Talk:List of signature songs

message: How is Hero her signature song over 'All I want for Christmas is you'? It's the first song mentioned on her article and has more than double the views on Youtube of Hero. 2A10:BCC2:2001:6F88:A0E1:27EB:5CCE:DB50 (talk) 23:03, 17 December 2023 (UTC)
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message: I don't think "You Shook Me All Night Long" is AC/DC's signature song. If you ask someone which song first comes to mind when the band is referenced, I think the answer would most often be "Back In Black". Thoughts? Should this be changed? Michiganstateman (talk) 14:10, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reverted your changes because you haven't provided a source. Considering another song is already listed, might need consensus here before changing. Doctorhawkes (talk) 21:23, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It's hard to provide a definitive source for some of these things, because it can be subjective. But Back In Black has far more streams across essentially every platform, which I think counts for something. Rolling Stone also ranks it as the definitive #1 AC/DC song. https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-lists/readers-poll-the-10-best-ac-dc-songs-153246/back-in-black-3-76402/ Michiganstateman (talk) 13:09, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: You have not provided a source to back up your personal opinion. The list is based on sources, not users' opinions Bedivere (talk) 14:48, 20 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I did not just provide my personal opinion. I gave you numbers illustrating popularity, and I am not sure what else you want. I think it's already a stronger argument than the existing "source". Michiganstateman (talk) 15:52, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: A source saying "X is ACDC's signature song" for example. This isn't about popularity, but how a song is defined as the signature song of certain band, in this case, AC/DC. A signature song might not be the most popular song of a performer. Bedivere (talk) 19:01, 27 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fair, but I'm not really sure what concrete criteria you want to refer to here, then. If we can't base it on popularity numbers, it's going to be totally subjective. I think if we want to keep any pretense of deciding this based on logic instead of just pure opinion, it should be based off popularity. After all, is it not more likely that a band's most popular song will be the one most often associated with the band? Michiganstateman (talk) 15:11, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I mean that the "signature song" title should only referenced to a reliable source that actually states it is the band's signature song. Sometimes it happens that sources differ on which song is a band's or individual's signature song, and in those cases, they are not included. Bedivere (talk) 21:33, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: In this case, a "reliable source" is just some guy saying that he thinks it's their signature song --- arguably about as valuable of a source as whatever I think. It could also be Highway to Hell. But different people will give you different answers, and with something so easily disputed, I don't see why referring to popularity is a bad idea. It's a measure of well-known it is, which is directly related to how iconic or 'signature' is it considered. Michiganstateman (talk) 02:23, 1 April 2024 (UTC)

text: I'd argue it should at least be moved to 'disputed' Michiganstateman (talk) 12:17, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  AC/DC signature song