Talk:Foreign involvement in the 2006 Lebanon War

message: I regard the argumentation *against* inclusion as hollow, and I do not see the need for compromises involving arbitrary dates (January 2006) etc.. For the moment, I will blind out the fact that Wikipedia:WikiProject_Judaism and related editors (including admins) are well represented here. I will call them and other editors that object to inclusion of US aid "opposing editors". Arguments against inclusion of past US aid seem to fall into at least four categories:
1. Size issues:Obviously, Wiki is not paper.
2. Balance issues:Hezbollah's arsenal and aid is described based on what common reliable sources deliver, while IDF's arsenal now seems to consist of jet fuel and precision-guided bombs. So while opposing editors complained about balance issues *with* the US aid, we now have a serious problem *without* the US aid.
3. Relevance of past aid for this conflict ("Is pre-200x aid relevant in this conflict?"):The article states that...
* Iran provides between $50-100 million annually
* Hezbollah received Iranian-supplied weaponry, including 11,500 rockets and missiles already in place
* three thousand Hezbollah militants have undergone training in Iran
These statements obviously do not bear any timestamp. According to the argumentation of the opposing editors, they must also be removed, since relevance of "annual" and "received" aid for this conflict cannot possibly be verified. Obviously, if we did that, we would end up with an article citing only jet fuel and some PGBs. Moreover, the article states that
* 50 [Hezbollah] pilots have been trained in Iran in the past two years
Opposing editors seem to have no problem with this statement, although it mentions aid over a two year timeframe (and disregarding the fact that Hezbollah did not attack using war planes).
4. Allegations of original research ("Who says that any past aid was used in this conflict?"):It is widely  reported  that  Israel used UK/US-made helicopters and fighter jets in the 2006 conflict.
:[...] F-16s, F-15s and Apaches have been used extensively by Israel in the recent attacks across Lebanon and Gaza, which have resulted in more than 500 civilian casualties to date. Last week Kim Howells, a Foreign Office minister, said the British embassy in Tel Aviv "has confirmed reports that Israel is using F16s in its incursions into Gaza and Lebanon".
So, please, can someone provide some *real* arguments against the inclusion? Thanks. Kosmopolis 19:23, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some ''real'' arguments against inclusion, please? 

message: I've just created Humanitarian and economic aid in the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict, which outlines humanitarian efforts and the evacuations. Since there is nothing but military aid left here anyway, I propose a rename. Kosmopolis (talk) 15:45, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a lot of financial aid.  The rename would be unsuitable.--Patchouli 07:00, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename to [[Military aid in the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict]] 

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