Talk:Thessaloniki/Archive 2

message: There is a list on fairs and I'd think this one should be added too. http://www.thessalonikibookfair.com/2007TBF/eng/excib.asp There is also another one on the waterfront that lasts longer than a week during the summer months.Diamantidis 19:09, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book Fair 

message: Miskin has deleted the Ladino name from the lead, writing " "Selanik" is _not_ the name in Ladino language for crying out loud"  I'm finding "Selanik" in Ladino documents on the web.  Perhaps this is a common mistake? For now, I am reverting. I would invite other users to correct, rather than delete, the name in Ladino, if possible. Jd2718 00:47, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name of Thessaloniki in Ladino

message: Miskin said:
:Ladino name of Thessaloniki... What the hell? How can a language originating in Spain be using the Turkish name for that city? I'd rather see the Hebrew name in its stead, it's definitely more relevant today.
I would like to point him to a Ladino song (note the usage of "Selanik"):
Por una Ninya(A song from Sofia, Bulgaria)                                                         	For a Girl (translation)
Por una ninya tan fermozal'alma yo la vo a darun kuchilyo de dos kortesen el korason entro.        	For such a beautiful girlI will give my soula double-edged knifepierced my heart.
No me mires ke'stó kantandoes lyorar ke kero yolos mis males son muy grandesno los puedo somportar.	Don't look at me; I am singing,it is crying that I want,my sorrows are so greatI can't bear them.
No te lo kontengas tu, fijika,ke sos blanka komo'l simit,ay morenas en el mundoke kemaron Selanik. 	Don't hold your sorrows, young girl,for you are white like bread,there are brunette girls in the worldwho set fire to Thessaloniki.
That's my evidence. I disagree that we should use the Hebrew name, because the Jews of Thessaloniki only used it to read the Torah, they didn't use it in everyday use. Also keep in mind that the use of Hebrew as a vernacular is a relatively new invention (by Eliezer Ben-Yehuda). Khoikhoi 05:02, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you Khoikhoi. One concern might be that the spelling may not be unique. However, we clearly have one good spelling in Ladino, we should keep that unless/until there is contrary evidence. Jd2718 12:44, 7 November 2006 (UTC)

text: You're very welcome, my friend. :-) It was a pleasure. If you can find sources that contradict mine, you can include it in the article. Until then, search away! Khoikhoi 18:46, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ladino/Hebrew

message: Do you think that the current infobox needs to be updated, with the same one currently used on the Athens page? I think the infobox on the Athens pages work better than the previous one, and could work better with Thessaloniki as well. Your thoughts? -- El Greco 01:33, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox

message: Since the article is locked, I'd like to ask anyone having access to the editing this article to include the following link in the "External Links":
Thessaloniki - Photo Archive Documents 1900-1980
The existing photos suck BTW. Makes sense: the editors spend their time arguing on how many language versions of the city name will be included. DOH. ~Rita~
:Just how do the existing photos suck? El Greco 16:02, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A link