Talk:Fenian

message: This page has a bunch of information that's already at the Fenian Brotherhood article, and other places. Since we have a link to that article, and it's explained and organized much better there, I'm going to remove it from here. If anyone has a problem with that discuss it here soon. I'm also going to remove the accuracy tag. -R. fiend 21:18, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: This talk page is desperate need of cleanup!  How difficult is it for people to follow proper formatting?  That mass of text at the top of the page is incomprehensible because formatting was not followed and titles were not used to differentiate between sections.  As I can, I will begin cleaning it up.  Assistance would be appreciated. ---Charles 03:36, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup of talk page 

message: The reference given for the paragraph detailing how "Fenian" is not always used to denote Catholics (see here, about half way down, section titled "Scottish Sects appeal reveals equal opportunities for hatred"), is an opinion peace detailing how the acceptance of the "sectarian" term in Scottish football is "vapid moral relativism". Anyone have any idea why an opinion piece is being reference which asserted the opposite of what the article says? Or am I missing something? Martin 20:57, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind, I've found a better reference. But this section is a mess. Can anyone make sense of:
??? So, does it refer to Roman Catholics or doesn't it? Martin 23:22, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Does seem funny. I suggest deleting it for now? Unless anybody can make it make sense. --Guinnog 23:30, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

text: You misunderstand my objection. The passage I quoted above basically says "It is not always aimed at Catholics....it is also aimed at Catholics." Regardless of whether it is used for Catholics or not, the current version makes little sense. Martin 01:00, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah I see, maybe it should be reworded to state that many of the people who are most likely to use the insult do not consider it to be an insult against Catholics. Then state that the people who claim to be offended by it, use it themselves in its original context, but also use it as an insult in the context that they claim they find offensive. --WikiWiley 01:24, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your attempt to clear this up WikiWiley, but I'm afraid I've had to revert your edit. Catholics most assuredly do find the term offensive, they don't merely "claim" to. It reads a bit like you are trying to justify sectarian bigotry, and present it in a more palatable light. I'm sure that this is not the case, however. You might find a little article I unearthed when doing some research interesting. Happy reading! Martin 02:11, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange reference 

message: The Scotland section is almost exclusively about football. Is that all the term "Fenian" relates to in Scotland? If you walked up to someone in Glasgow and called them a Fenian, would it be understood that you were calling them a Celtic supporter?
Should we  just rename the section "Scottish football"?
Martin 14:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No. It's not just about football. PhilLeotardo 13:51, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you know about the usage of the term in Scotland outside football, could you perhaps expand the section? If the term is used in other contexts, it should at least get a mention. Martin 00:23, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's not just about football. A couple of years ago, the Scottish breach of the peace laws were changed to allow religious bigotry as an aggravating part of the charge. Of course, as there's no physical difference between Catholics and protestants, a lot of these offences will involve people wearing football colours/strips. Read this newspaper article: http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=382632004. Incidently, Martin, "if you walked up to someone in Glasgow and called them a Fenian", nomatter how quietly or nonaggressive, you'd be successfully prosecuted by this law. ML5 16:34, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scotland section 

message: shouldn't the horse bit be moved to its own page?
--Mathnsci 20:21, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  racehorse 

message: In 1984, the Unionist politician and Ulster Volunteer Force (UVF) member George Seawright caused outrage at a meeting of the Belfast Education and Library Board by saying that Catholics who objected to the flying of the Union Flag were "just Fenian scum who have been indoctrinated by the Catholic church".
While this is undoubtedly insulting, I'm not sure it's entirely relevant to the context. Would it not be just sufficient to say that the term fenian is a perjorative term used to denote catholics in Northern Ireland ?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.237.142.7 (talk) 14:13, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Northern Irish Use 

message: The sentence "They made several attempts (1866, 1870, etc.) to invade some parts of Province of Canada (Southern Ontario and Missisquoi County) which were a British dominion at the time" is a bit off but I hesitate to change it because of the links to other articles.  The Province of Canada existed in 1866 but not 1870; it was a British Colony until 1867 and part (or 2 parts) of the Dominion of Canada thereafter but never a British Dominion; the Fenians also attacked Campobello Island, in the then-British Colony of New Brunswick.--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 18:27, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fenians in Canada 

message: There are two authors in this article's citation section: Mark F. Ryan & Desmond Ryan. Both surnames are the same and there is no way to distinguish them. Is there anyone who can fix this? For example, Ryan, p.317 could be Ryan, Mark, p.317 or Ryan, Desmond, p.317. Komitsuki (talk) 13:22, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation issues 

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message: Basic information to add to this article, in order to make it properly encyclopedic: the etymology of the word "Fenian." 173.88.246.138 (talk) 19:06, 13 November 2022 (UTC)
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