Talk:Martin of Tours

message: As it now stands, this is two concatenated articles. Someone should go back to the  Life and other primary sources and tidy it up. M.e 04:21, 23 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two articles merged, for cleanup 

message: Is the celebration on the 11th of november somehow related to Halowe'en? There are certain similarities:
* (roughly) the time of year
* lanterns (which are sometimes carved from sugar beets or turnips)
* trick-or-treating
I'll ask this same question on Talk:Halloween as well. --Aalbert
: According to other sources Martin of Tours died on November 8, but his burial was on November 11, by the way the same day that Martin Luther was baptised. November 11 has nothing to do with Halloween. Halloween is 'All Holy's E'ening' and is the evening before November 1. November 11 starts the carnival season. Therefore, in many areas in Germany's Rhineland St. Martin's Day is celebrated on November 8 instead. Perhaps this article could elaborate on this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.207.52.132 (talk) 18:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  11th of November celebration aspects 

message: Does this make sense? Also in the east part of the Belgian province of East-Flanders and the west part of West Flanders, --13:07, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flanders 

message: A separate entry is needed for the Cult of Saint Martin, which is an immense subject----Clive Sweeting.
: We look forward to your thorough revamp of the article(s). --Wetman 05:53, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cult of St. Martin 

message: I'm surprised there's no mention of the legend of the duck.  He's often shown dressed as a bishop with a duck at his feet. 70.150.135.114 23:06, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Often? where?--Wetman 00:19, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duck association 

message: I'm fortunate enough to be IN Tours at the moment.  I'll see if I can't snag some pictures of the cathedral, the basilique, and some iconography for article. CaveatLectorTalk 09:12, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: Someone should edit out the vandalism in hagiography part where it says the guy filled the room with ejaculations after his reincarnation.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.50.248.106 (talk) 12:56, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Should Flesh and Blood (film) be mentioned?
A statue of Saint Martin is part of the plot.
--Error (talk) 02:07, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Flesh and Blood is worth mentioning.  It not only uses a statue, but makes heavy use of iconography and legends throughout to comment upon religion, power, and so on...  Seems only fitting to me.  My only objection is that I hate "In popular culture" sections by general principle, but if that's what needs to be done I approve...  :) --DigitalHoodoo (talk) 23:00, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --Error (talk) 19:11, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flesh and Blood 

message: I hope nobody minds but I have just added a link to a section of my website with hi-resolution images of the St Martin window at Chartres. Normally I am loathe to link to my own site - but the window at Chartres is one of the most extensive early gothic depictions of the St Martin narratives and follows Sulpicius' text quite closely.  It may therefore be of interest to some readers. Since the link is to a non-commercial site containing images not readily available elswhere (at least not in a legible form) I think it fits within the WP:EL guidelines. If anyone disagrees, please feel free to remove the link - I shan't be offended! StuartLondon (talk) 08:07, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this is a wonderful resource. Cynwolfe (talk) 12:36, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: At present the link to the life of St Martin in the Hagiography section is to a 'users' site at an educational institution. As a result it seems likely to go when that user leaves there. By contrast the whole thing is also available at CCEL.org which exists to provide access to this sort of material. The link is
http://www.ccel.org/ccel/schaff/npnf211.ii.ii.html
Shouldn't we use it in preference? Anyone know if there is a policy on this matter? 
Ender's Shadow Snr (talk) 23:57, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we use CCEL as a source for texts as a standard? 

message: Is there a reason why Gregory of Tours' hagiography of Martin isn't mentioned in this section? --Dweller (talk) 11:55, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hagiography section 

message: I've been pointed at http://www.catholicpeacefellowship.org/nextpage.asp?m=2185 - which describes him as a patron of conscientious objectors. I've not time to dig into this, but I thought it was worth mentioning in the hope that someone who does have time and interest to dig into the matter might do so. SamBC(talk) 18:21, 9 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Patron of soldiers - or conscientious objectors? 

message: The article says "just before a battle with the Gauls..." I wanted to wikilink this to Gauls, but they don't seem to have been militarily active at this time. Is it perhaps the Alemanni? Most of the 4th century Roman wars in this region seem to be against them. StAnselm (talk) 20:11, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. The source says in the Gauls - i.e. in the Gallic provinces, part of the Empire at the time. I have corrected the text. Richard Keatinge (talk) 20:48, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent. Thank you. StAnselm (talk) 20:51, 16 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gauls? 

message: The Stancliffe book has a discussion about the conflict in the dating of the birth of Martin p. 119-133, yet the article asserts the long date without doubt. This seems inappropriate, so I've editted the section accordingly. 
Ender's Shadow Snr (talk) 16:57, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early date v late date for Martin's birth 

message: Some specialize infantrymen I think that was someone who mixed up St. Martin with St. Maurice. St. Martin, as we Germans all know from the well-known song about his helping the beggar, was a rider - he even is by tradition called a knight, as it were.--2001:A61:217B:9801:91AB:455E:CD05:2665 (talk) 19:27, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Infantrymen?

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message: As a technical term, a "military saint" is not just a saint who served in the military, or a saint with patronages associated with the military. It refers to those soldiers of the Roman army who were martyred during the persecution of Christians under the Roman empire. Martin is rarely described as "military saint", and then loosely or in passing.
In fact, his role as "military saint" appears almost entirely limited to his role in late 19th-century French militarism.
Therefore, if the term is used in the article, its use needs to be duly qualified.
--dab (𒁳) 07:35, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Except for the placement of his memorial on Veterans' Day? And I don't see justification for your narrow definition in the article you've linked. 2600:8800:1B00:9C:3D58:A38D:EC2D:14A7 (talk) 17:24, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: "military saint"

message: Why is he called "St. Martin-in-the-fields?" 47.138.92.39 (talk) 03:10, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  St Martin-in-the-fields