Talk:Lists of tornadoes and tornado outbreaks

message: If this article is only going to cover tornadoes in North America, shouldn't that fact be reflected in the title of the article? As recent events have shown, NAm does not have a monopoly on the things! Loganberry (Talk) 12:55, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't have to. But North America probably has the most tornadoes in the world. So it may be worth breaking this list into either continents, or North America and Outside of North America. --Rob 03:49, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  While other places have tornadoes, almost no where else has anywhere remotely near the amount of intense tornadoes that North America does.  A notable exception is Bangladesh (and nearby areas of India).  I have added the most notable Bangladesh tornadoes and broke up the event listing by time periods.  Tornadoes like the Birmingham one which are rare in their destructiveness for respective areas certainly are appropriate for this page. Evolauxia 21:44, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Area covered 

message: Autumn outbreaks are not as rare as most people think, and certainly not nearly as the media portrays. November in particular has a history of many major outbreaks; it's just not an annual thing for big outbreaks unlike spring usually is consistent in producing. Both transition seasons are times of increased occurrence (temperature differences increase over the northern hemisphere, increasing jet stream strength and thus number of strong dynamic systems with lots of strong wind shear hitting what are still a decent number of warm, moist, sufficiently unstable air masses), and tornado frequency plotted throughout the year is indeed bimodal. The early spring and late fall systems tend to be very dynamic and further east in the MS-OH-TN Valleys/Southeast region rather than the popularly conceived "tornado alley" of the Great Plains (the Iowa outbreak is more rare in that respect). These areas see most of their tornado counts in these large and less annually consistent outbreaks. The number of outbreaks this year is somewhat unusual, but there have been other years with multiple November outbreaks as well. As I know there are a lot of tropical cyclone enthusiasts, one thing that has contributed to this November's volatility is the same thing that contributed to hurricane strength in the Gulf of Mexico, water temperatures are still above normal. 
Anyway, I, myself, prefer doing the majority of the content of the articles after time allows a better idea of what actually transpired (for a more encyclopedic write-up; and I'm also generally busy before/during/after events). Kudos to those that maintain stuff in a more news-like fashion; though there are some potential issues, such as unconfirmed reports will have to be cleaned up in time, that's not very encyclopedic --but fine in the preliminary/early stages when it's a current event. We will also not want to load the list with every event that comes along, only those that are sufficiently significant and rare (the list will always be somewhat arbitrary but we can minimize that). I'd like to improve the event pages significantly and am willing to collaborate with others. I can provide a lot of resources of information. The info box introduced with the Evansville outbreak and now several other articles that was borrowed from the tropical cyclone project is a very good step; and it's good to go through each significant tornado of an event, though I think it needs some cleanup or organization in how its presented. Some kind of standardization like for tropical cyclones would be a good thing as well. I've improved some articles already myself, but have limited time, so haven't finished any of them, or even started on many. Evolauxia 07:55, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Support, as part of a larger project - WikiProject:Meteorology. CrazyC83 03:40, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm about to post a revamping of the tornado event listing with a table format and some other additions. If we can get enough willing and able collaborators, then the meteorology project is a great idea. The tornado events project I suggested was just an informal thing. Evolauxia 04:20, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: One already exists: Wikipedia:WikiProject Tropical cyclones. CrazyC83 06:39, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, there is also Wikipedia:WikiProject Climate change but not an overarching Meteorology WikiProject. The TC project is a good source of ideas and experience, as well as potential collaborators. Evolauxia 13:04, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tornado events project? 

message: I've proposed the tornado project as a subproject of Meteorology and Weather Events - the proposal page is User:CrazyC83/Meteorology and the official information page is Wikipedia:Wikiproject/List_of_proposed_projects#Meteorology_and_Weather_Events. CrazyC83 21:58, 6 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project introduction 

message: Is Mid-Mississippi Valley Tornado Outbreak of March 1890 the official name of this tornado?  Since it took place around Louisville, Kentucky, wouldn't this be more precisely called Ohio Valley Tornado Outbreak of March 1890? Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 14:27, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: March 1890 tornado

message: There are no official names (such as hurricanes have), though some events have widely recognized names (e.g. Super Outbreak).  That is a minority of events, however, so naming is very arbitrary.  For this event, Louisville was by far where the most significant effects were, though tornadoes occurred across a wide area.  Labeling an outbreak for the area with the most significant damage and casualties, when damage is concentrated in that area and otherwise comparatively sparse, is a good idea as long as "outbreak" is in the name.  It could be called "Louisville Tornado Outbreak of 1890".  Some events do have multiple common names like the “Red River Valley Tornado Outbreak” which is also known as the “Wichita Falls Tornado Outbreak” or “Terrible Tuesday” (the latter is less known now).  In that case there were other major tornadoes.  Evolauxia 16:56, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Event nomenclature 

message: To make the main page less empty, I was thinking we could add tables (as templates for use in other articles) for the 10 deadliest tornadoes in each category, and put these on this main page, with the link to each main page.  These tables could be like the many made for the Tropical cyclone project, such as Template:Most intense Atlantic hurricanes.  In fact, I'm going to start on that right now. Once I'm finished we can decide if we want to put them on the main page there. -Runningonbrains 01:49, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I created two just as examples.  Check em out at Template:10 deadliest US tornadoes and Template:25 deadliest US tornadoes.  I think they look good (not that I didnt steal most of the format from another template).  I see it possible to make tables like this for everything...most damaging, longest track, deadliest F5s, deadliest European tornadoes, deadliest worldwide tornadoes (that is, if we can get reliable stats).  I'll consider making this my next big project, unless someone else would like the honor... -Runningonbrains 06:01, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I like them and they would be good for anything where we have consistently verifiable information.  That's fairly easy in the US except for damages.  However, top damages could be obtained from the Brooks/Edwards paper and updated as need be if new events surpass those on the list.  The normalization will have to be accounted for.  Outside the US, we could use fatalities, it won't be perfectly inclusive and accurate but one works with the data one has.  Hopefully people could find or assemble more non-US data.  I'm willing to assist but don't have time to do such a project myself. Evolauxia 06:38, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New format suggestions 

message: Sirlinksalot Tornado Links has a large collection of links to various tornadoes sites, and if you go to "News Articles about Tornadoes" has links to many, many news articles about tornado events around the globe. Evolauxia 22:26, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good source of links to news articles and other sites 

message: A few years ago, I did a research paper on this event, which was turned into a magazine article that was never published. I decided to create a new article here on the Wiki about this event. Moreover, I plan on adding additional information and graphics to this page in the future. This article came out of an extensive research project that I did on the 1965 Palm Sunday outbreak, which affected the area I was born in.
Currently, I am doing some rather intensive research on another tornado outbreak that occurred here in Michigan back in 1917. Apparently, the Michigan Dept. of Agriculture, in a report that detailed this event, concluded that a tornado in our state traveled along the ground at 130 km/h (80 mph) between two communities. If so, this would beat the old record set by the Tri-State tornado of 1925. I will post that article here in the future. USRoute66 07:04, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Palm Sunday tornado outbreak of 1920 

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