Talk:Nihang

message: Just a note on this passage, "The Nihangs wear checkered dresses of a particular shade of blue known as "electric-blue."[3], bangles or bracelets of steel round their wrists (Kara), and quoits of steel (Chakra) in their lofty conical blue turbans, together with daggers, knives and swords of varying sizes (Kirpan), and an iron chain.
The bracelets of steel and dagger are not a Nihang custom, but practiced by all observant Sikhs.  The article as is suggests this is exclusive to Nihangs.KVND 23:57, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sikhs not all Nihang 

message: I thought only the AKJ are known as Akalis?  Not the Nihangs? Sukh | ਸੁਖ | Talk 12:14, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Akali 

message: I have removed the statement below from this entry. This is because is give the impression that the SAD is the political representives of the Nihang, which is incorrect (a reading of the sources cited originally at the end of the article will show that ) Of course if you can cite evidence to the contray please revert.  
" In politics, the order is represented by the Shiromani Akali Dal, founded in the early years of the twentieth century. Members of the party, like their Nihang counterparts, also don bright electric-blue turbans "
Narncruiser 12:41, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shiromani Akali Dal/ Nihang 

message: Article Akali phoola singh‎ was created containing mostly copy and paste from other sources, so I blanked and redirected it to the Phula Singh section here. I tried to expand the section with sources from amritworld.com and Bharat Rakshak, but after adding two minor cites I decided to tag it with expand-sect as this area is outside by expertise. The blanked text is still available in the history but before archive.org's current technical difficulties I found most of the text originated here:
*www.sikh-heritage.co.uk 2005 February version, which itself was edited from a 2004 version
*2002 October version of http://panthkhalsa.tripod.com/Warriors/SardarAkaliPhulaSinghji.htm
Note the tripod page may appear blank but does infact include white on white text. -Wikianon (talk) 19:02, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Phula Singh

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message: http://www.tribuneindia.com/2001/20010326/punjab1.htm
:*Using Cannabis by Nihangs in their drinking material is different than smoking Marijuana in rest of the world. Smoking is totally prohibted in Sikhism. For origional Sikh Principles and prohibtions, Please seeofficial information from Shiromani Gurdwara Prabandhak Committee. 
:*Also, Mr User talk:90.192.59.97, I warn you from vandalizing Sikh religious articles. Your hate for Sikhism can encourage/force Sikhs and other non-Hindus to vandalize Hinduism and Islam related articles on wikipedia. Please respect the senstivity of religious information. So, Please read all chapters of official Sikh Code of Conduct and educate yourself before generating your next thoughts.Singh6 (talk) 15:14, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nihangs use [[Cannabis]] sometimes called bhang

message: 'Electric Blue' is the name of a Porn video series, secondly Nihangs wouldn't have used the term 'Electric Blue' back in the 16th to 18th Centuries as the local electricity board wasn't up & running and neither was their descriptive use of the language language, so for all intents and purposes its pov. However I replaced it with the urdu term 'Bijli' to save you the embarrassment.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.192.59.97 (talk) 13:16, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just call things what they're called. Im sure hundreds of innocuous phrases in any article are also the names of pornos, but that doesn't mean we should them. 199.111.190.160 (talk) 03:09, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Electric Blue ?? 

message: "Many Nihangs allow themselves to drink alcoholhttp://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-15480741 though intoxicants are considered forbidden by other Sikhs."
This statement has repeatedly and unjustifiably been removed. The BBC, unless someone can point out otherwise, is a generally a very good and reliable source. The last time it was blanked a statement was added in the edit summary that someone or other was excommunicated from the Sikh religion with the implication, I suppose, that he was not a reliable source of information and thus this statement about alcohol was unsubstantiated. This reasoning extremely poor as it bears no meaningful relationship to logic. The person cited as supposedly being excommunicated was not Stephanie Hegarty, the author of the source article so there is no relationship between the source and the alleged excommunication. The article quotes several people, anyone of whom could have made a statement on alcohol noted by the author. Even if excommunicated the person said it, he could have been excommunicated for any number of reasons which have no relationship to the tendency to drink alcohol or his truthfulness or accuracy about alcohol. If you disagree with the alcohol statement then cite a contrary source. Waerloeg (talk) 04:44, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope WP:RSUW does not apply here. The source is WP:Verifiable and the article is about Nihungs. If you have a source which is reliable saying he is an excommunicated Sikh you can add that. Thanks SH 09:13, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

text: It clearly is WP:RSUW especially since there are no other sources anywhere stating that Nihungs drink alcohol. Jujhar.pannu (talk) 05:20, 19 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No it's not. I suggest WP:Mediation as you clearly don't understand WP:RSUW. Thanks SH 07:40, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inappropriate removal of material on alcohol consumption 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: , can you explain your revert of the Nihang today section removal? I think it's pretty uncontroversial that adding recent news incidents involving large and very old orders or groups gives WP:UNDUE prominence to said incident. It would be better to have a general section on its militant attitude using academic sources, but the current version isn't in line with Wikipedia policies. Please explain your reasoning in the edit summary, as I did, before reverting. 117.251.198.151 (talk) 01:23, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The material is properly sourced and the single paragraph does not, in my opinion, give undue weight to the event. Removal of the material smacks of whitewashing. If we wish to expand the "Nihang today" section into a description of their generally militant attitude, including examples such as the incident in question, that's fine, but simply removing it does not give a complete picture. WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:47, 21 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:   Since you haven't responded, can I assume you concur with my reasoning? WikiDan61ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:29, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nihang today