Talk:Mazu

message: * 天后信仰與政治秩序：香港與台灣的比較 (Matsu Worships and Political Order: Hong Kong-Taiwan Comparison) (in Traditional Chinese)
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: Eh, great, but why is it important or useful? What does it say? — LlywelynII 11:19, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources for future article expansion I

message: The article currently states that the Matsu temple in Los Angeles has gained "notoriety."  Is that really what is meant?  Notoriety is a kind of fame, but for something bad-- if the temple is disliked, perhaps the article should say why.—?
:Fixed. — LlywelynII 11:25, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Notoriety?

message: I'm Vietnamese from a region that's very close to the sea and have never heard of her.  Can she be "extremely popular" among the Vietnamese people? DHN 07:03, 7 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular with Vietnamese? 

message: I've seen Matsu festivals in Taiwan ; Matsu always had a pair of tall military helpers drawing. One of them is red and hears all (順風耳) and the other is green and sees all (千里眼). We should write about them. David.Monniaux 11:26, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Green and red generals 

message: 09:29, 4 February 2008 MER-C (Talk | contribs) m (13,709 bytes) (Reverted edits by Radio86 (talk) to last version by Sustainableview) (undo)
I find that change inappropriate. Please go through the current links and see what changes I made - all the changes were to bring the english Wikipedia user more informational value. Radio86 (talk) 11:58, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: Maybe this could be mentioned somewhere? Esn (talk) 01:58, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Along with other TV shows and movies. Sure. — LlywelynII 11:28, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Taiwanese animated feature

message: I found this section in the article just plain silly. Some of these Chinese titles were given by the emperor at the time, I don't see how listing the translation of each of these titles would make them official. I can easily come up with 5 different variations in translations to each of these Chinese titles, how meaningful can this list be to the English readers. What I mean is that though the Chinese titles were official, the English translations of them are arbitrary, hence including a list of random translations in this article just does not make any sense at all.  Besides, according to the Chinese edition of this topic, this goddess has received no less than 29 official titles from various emperors throughout many dynasties. The list in the English edition is not only incomplete, it is also inaccurate and useless. I would suggest removing the list and just state the fact that she has numerous official titles. And many were designed with the sole purpose to praise and glorify her, for example, a 64 characters official title "護國庇民妙靈昭應宏仁普濟福佑群生諴感咸孚顯神贊順垂慈篤祜安瀾利運澤覃海宇恬波宣惠道流衍慶靖洋錫祉恩周德溥衛漕保泰振武綏疆天后之神" was not intended for practical use. Kowloonese (talk) 18:08, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree as does our general policy. It might go in a footnote but they should be included and they should be glossed in English. Of course the Chinese forms should be given and sourced as well. Of course it's better (where possible) to have sourced English translations rather than our own editors' shots at it. — LlywelynII 11:31, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official titles 

message: Ma-Cho Temple gave the names "Dragon Girl" and "Goddess of the Sea" but they need sourcing for inclusion. If they're translations of Chinese titles, they need the Chinese forms and romanizations. — LlywelynII 04:37, 21 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Alt names

message: These sources are given by the bibliography but currently unused by the article:
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Kindly reïnclude them once they are being used as sources to verify statements in the running text.
Even better, these sources are considered authoritative on the topic by Clark and it would be good to find usable online copies or to have page numbers to verify statements in the running text:
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In the case of the Japanese and Chinese sources, however, we should just use them to supplement the English-language sources where possible. — LlywelynII 11:35, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources for article expansion II

message: The situation of the cult (which when used as a synonym of "culture" or "worship" does not convey negative connotations) of goddess Mazu in mainland China is not as negative as the article seems to suggest. Indeed, Mazuism has energetically revived in the mainland with new temples built in all coastal provinces and all sorts of study conferences and rituals organised with the participation not only of mainland and Taiwanese cultural associations, but also of cadres of the CCP. Not being an "official religion" in China does not mean to be "outlaw" and "banned". Indeed, being an "official religion" in China (of which there are five) means that that given religion is "officially regulated" by a state apparatus. This is not the case of folk or popular religions of deities, which freely flourish without government interference. It is also important to notice that "religion" in China means "doctrine", and "worship", "cults" or "cultures" of deities are not regarded as such, but rather as "living systems" or "ways of life". Indeed, Mazuism is officially recognised at regional level in Fujian (see p. 22), not merely as a "religion" but as a "culture", which as we have seen has broader implications in Chinese language.--80.182.232.5 (talk) 22:43, 5 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revival of the cult in mainland China 

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message: Isn't there also a Mazu temple in Tianjin, northern China, called "天津天后宫"? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 02:43, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Also a Mazu temple in Tianjin? 

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