Talk:Yucatec Maya language

message: An article rename is proposed for this page and a number of other Mayan language articles. Please see and comment at the centralised discussion for these at Talk:Mayan languages.--cjllw | TALK 05:55, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Per the consensus arrived at (see link to talk above), this article now moved to ALMG orthography, Yukatek.--cjllw | TALK 09:04, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Move proposal (Aug 2006)

message: Regarding the Yukatek, Yucatec or Yucateco definition for this branch of maya language, i propose this line of investigation, in order to *obtain the correct sources of information* related on how to define this sort of maya in a geographically oriented way (mayan itself) and English: 
Question: How many language academies exists in the maya world as a whole and how they define Yucatec Maya?
Sorry to butt in, but this is not a good question. The problem is that the word "academy" in English means some kind of generally respected, government supported scholarly organization, while in Spanish "academia" is usually used for a very small private operation, one room that opens to the street, where they hold language classes sometimes, in the evening. And there is no one standard Yucatec maya, from what I understand there are three major dialects that have to use Spanish heavily to understand each other. There is also no consensus about which consonants are glottalized and which are not, much less how to write them. The people I know in Playa del Carmen use apostrophe signs to indicate "glottalization", making no difference between K an C. Also, it seems to me that the word "glottalized" is being used exclusively by people who are unable to pronounce it, because in fact we are talking about three totally different things.
1. Making a little pause after a consonant before starting to pronounce the following vowel. A similar thing exists in English when a word starts with p, t, or k, however, those are aspirated, they come with a puff of air. This is not the case in Maya.
2. Reformulated. This is a little pause between two vowels, then you restart the same vowel again.
3. An upward movement of the stomach at the end of the word. 
All these are called "glottalized", but IMHO are totally different things.142.243.254.224 (talk) 14:54, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Yucatec Maya

message: Could someone with a knowledge of Yucatec weigh in over at Talk:Chicxulub Crater? --Ptcamn (talk) 19:39, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request 

message: Hi, I have a copy of Alfred Tozzer's "A Maya Grammar" and I am in the process of placing the verb tables from that book here. It's a work in progress. Let me know if you would like it formatted some other way or if it should be its own page etc.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Atlatlqueh (talk • contribs) 01:31, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not a good source for this information, as Tozzers work has been superceded by almost a century of subsequent work. Please use a contemporary source if you want to give a more detailed description of Yucatecan grammar. Examples should also use a contemporary orthography.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 02:49, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creating a verb paradigm section. 

message: Which would be the most appropriate character to use for the glottal stop when using a Maya name in a document?
*the right single quote mark U+2019 ’
*the typewriter apostrophe U+0027 ''''''
*Unicode's "modifier letter apostrophe" U+02BC ʼ
*any of these
*some other character
--Ginkgo100talk 16:46, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Glottal stop and typography 

message: I find this a rather big gap in coverage. While for all the other Mayan languages/ethnic groups we have separate entries like 
Tz'utujil people and Tz'utujil language there is non for the Maya of Yucatán who call themselves -- hum -- "Maya" (Maaya, Maaya’ob). Could somebody with more experience start a new article Yucatec Maya people? Mexkalātsīntli (talk) 13:28, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  No article for Yucatec Maya (People)? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The Yucatec Maya language is normally transcribed with 25 phonemes: 20 consonants and 5 vowels. Our section on consonants gives 22. In particular, our article lists  and both  and . I have never seen a source that lists  as a letter in Yucatec Maya, and all the sources I have seen use either  or , but never both. For example, Dictionary Of The Maya Language: As Spoken in Hocabá Yucatan uses , but not . The University of Quintana Roo's Diccionario Introductorio uses , but not . I have not, however, seen the official INALI orthography for Yucatec Maya, which is probably more recent than either of those sources, but frustratingly impossible to locate. The Spanish version of this article also includes , but not . Nosferattus (talk) 04:19, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like the  was added by an anonymous IP address in 2014. I'm going to revert that edit for now as I don't believe it is correct. If anyone has a source stating otherwise, please share. Nosferattus (talk) 04:33, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many consonants 

message: According to Ethnologue, The Endangered Languages Project, and the ALMG, Yucatec Maya is spoken in Mexico and Belize. However, the map we are using in the article, which is based on a map by linguist Danny Law, shows Yucatec Maya in Guatemala, albeit in a remote jungle corner of Guatemala where I'm not even sure anyone lives. Which one is correct? Nosferattus (talk) 18:16, 23 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: After doing more research, I've concluded that the Danny Law map is not accurate. A more accurate map can be seen at https://www.muturzikin.com/cartesamerique/imagesamerique/mexiko3.png. I've adjusted the map used in this article to more closely match the actual range of the language (notably excluding Guatemala). Nosferattus (talk) 02:41, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you very much. Unfortunately, however, Danny Law's original map, widely used on Wikipedia, and various maps derived from it, are still glaringly inaccurate. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 19:48, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Yucatec Maya spoken in Guatemala?