Talk:Fergie (singer)/Archive 1

message: This pathetic article epitomises all that is wrong with Wiki and the cultural wasteland of that country known as the United States of Bush - that people who arrogantly refer to themselves as 'americans' despite there being perhaps 40 others countries and races in the 'americas'. 'Fergie' is about as appealing as a fetid mop and about as disgusting as you can get. She symbolises all that is wrong with this world and your idiotic coverage of her here only exacerbates the matter.
No wonder people want to change and vandalise this! Just think what they'd do if they met the 'cause celebre'!
:Though I agree with the whole "girls have no positive role models today" thing. Don't be too hard on fergie - I mean, PARIS HILTON is about as appealing as a fetid mop and about as disgusting as you can get and symbolises all that is wrong with this world (really just western culture - c'mon africa has alot of deeper issues). However, I don't understand what your real point is. Are you trying to say that wikipedia should delete all articles about brainless celebrities? --Matt D 17:32, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: All That Is Wrong

message: 'major plastic surgery on her face'. This is impossible. She's not as far gone as David Gest and she's undeniably BUTT-UGLY. No nip 'n' tuck institute would ever make anyone look as ugly as that. No, friends: those are her ugly parent's genes.
Ditch this disgusting article! If you don't get it yet: the bitch's press agents are doctoring this shit article all the time! Keep them the F out!
: Have you ever seen people with major facial plastic surgery?  It doesn't make them look good.  Many of them are a fucking mess, Fergie included.  Check out Michael Jackson, Pete Burns, Joan Rivers...  -- AvatarMN 19:13, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Major Plastic Surgery?

message: look she pissed herself. it was on the news. its as important as the britney madona kiss or janet jackson "accidentally' exposing herself and should be included. if it isnt included the only thing that i can think is going on here is that FERGIE OR HER HANDLERS, AGENT, ET CETERA ARE RE-WRITING THIS PAGE!!!! Put the urination incident in.
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---Nelly Furtado?-----
I think the beef (or whatever it actually was) with Nelly Furtado should be metioned.
: Why? Furtado has brains, doesn't she? That means the proponents are irretrievably unmatchable.
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I edited out this sentence:
who are of Irish, Scottish and Native American descent. As a child actress, she appeared
Where is the verifiable source for this information? IMDB doesn't even have that anymore.
: I've also seen she's the son of a dog. I saw it on IMDb.
the sentence Lyjah's myspace a www.myspace.com/lmw6 was... looks like a joke someone put here.
: You're missing the point: Fergie IS a joke.
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HARVEYJ wrote:
I edited out the part about her doing sex for drugs because I couldn´t find ANY other reference to it.
The same quote to the reporter was on the IMDB and didn´t mention this.
I am not a Black Eyed Peas fan (at all) but that type of "joking around" editing is not funny.
I have a sense of humor but slandering people isn´t funny. Grow up.
And i pantsed a boy when i
was 19 and it was so funny that some girl peed her pants. 24.158.16.162 (talk) 20:23, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: pee pee, the urination inc

message: Why is this included?:
It has begun to receive airplay by several top Mainstream radio stations, such as KISS-FM in Los Angeles and WXKS-FM in Boston.
Is this considered more advertisement than fact?
::It has been removed quite sometime. -- A Raider Like Indiana 23:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Radio station reference

message: Just as a matter of clarity, since the article is about Stacy Ferguson and not Justin Timberlake or Britney Spears, should the sentence "She dated Justin Timberlake before Britney Spears." be rephrased or expanded since in the literal sense (in that all facts are pertinent to Stacy Ferguson) this would imply that she dated both Justin and Britney, in that order. Unless of course she actually did, I have no actual evidence either way but in the pop culture gossip circle this wouldn't be true. Just thought I would throw that in there, wikipedia is all about the details. --Jmeden2000 04:22, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: clarity?

message: How do images just disappear like that? Dave 05:18, 4 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Missing image

message: There are many problems with the photos, someone post a new one, then 7 days later, another editor post another one....
Try to use the same foto with the correct copyrighted source, to avoid this problems.
supposedly she met will i am in minneapolis at the "star party" not in "an (unnamed) la venue" as the article says.
Why is the urination controversy still not mentioned in the article???...  24.202.175.132 (talk) 18:46, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Better fotos

message: Again...why isn't Fergies documented public urination mentioned in the article? Why isn't it considered a relevant piece of pop-culture? I'm just repeating what everyone else has been trying to say and I thought we came to a conclusion that it was admissable? The Canadian artist "Peaches" has recently made a parody of BEP'S "My Humps" making fun of the incident. I don't understand why we can have the tid-bit that she loves "Cap'n Crunch" in this article but not that she publically urinated multiple times on stage.
:yeah guys, can we please just let this go and leave it in? it gets a lot of google hits. i know it doesn't seem "encyclopedic", but neither is All your base are belong to us. no harm will be done whatsoever if it were left in, but it would deprive the internet of a little bit of information if left out. not a lot, but just enough for wikipedia to be less helpful. now let's just calm down and let it go. at least you guys can give me a message if you really want to talk it out. Joeyramoney 00:34, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I will tell you why people are fighting this. Cause they work for Fergie. Someone is editing this thing for her as part of her PR image. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 140.247.180.48 (talk) 15:13, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The urination incident!

message: Just like Ashanti, Jewel, Glory and Tweet, I think this page should be named "Fergie (singer)" instead of her real name Stacy Ferguson. I mean, everywhere, they use it on wikipedia, and Fergie shouldn't be an exception, so I'm changing the title to "Fergie (singer)". Discuss it here. -- Luigi-ish 22:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Right title for Fergie

message: This is almost all Black Eyed Peas-related. Shouldn't this all be on the Black Eyed Peas page? Seems very redundant. If she wins things with her solo material that makes sense to have it here, but otherwise its cruft and complete overkill. -- eo 00:08, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Awards section

message: This page should be moved to Fergie, because she is best known as her stage name. mirageinred 19:53, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Why isn't this page moved?

message: I heard rumors that Fergie was dead, i kow that is not true but how did the rumors created? what they created bye me. 80.76.46.221 15:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just people who don't like Fergie. Pay no attetion to them. Tcatron565 16:28, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fergie is dead?

message: Given that I haven't seen the Posideon remake yet (and can't spell it :) but from what I understand, she basically appeared in the movie as a singer. Does that really warrant mentioning her persuing acting, or should it be worded as "appeared in the movie as a singer..." This is like saying that Steve Vai began an acting career when he appeared in Crossroads as a guitar player. Sabalon 19:45, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, i once flew a friends plane for a few minutes that doesnt make me a pilot. either there are some over zealous wikiwriters, a fanboy is taking over this page or fergie IS making her own changes. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 140.247.180.48 (talk) 14:59, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Acting Career

message: The main picture of her is absolutly aweful, it almost dosent look like her. If anyone can dig up a better picture that would be great. Aspensti 18:51, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Better Main Picture

message: Well scrubbed? --Gbleem 04:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: well-scrubbed?

message: A Better More Current Fergie Picture Is Needed. Thanks. =] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mineralxd (talk • contribs) 06:09, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Any acceptable picture would have to be a free image. Copyrighted promotional images, etc., would not be acceptable. --Yamla 14:15, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Default Picture

message: Could someone please put a better pic in here? Solid Fox 20:48, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Better Pic

message: Under what section should the embarassment of urinating herself on stage go?
: It's been debated whether the incident should be included in an encyclopedia article at all; see above. Is it a notable fact in her biography? — Matt Crypto 23:15, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't. I'm more interested in someone's accomplishments, controversies, and other noteworthy news. If you want something unencylopedic go read the tabloids. But then again that's just me. After all this time, I just find it funny that there's no pleasing you pro-urination people. --† Ðy§ep§ion †  Speak your mind 01:57, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: why do care if it goes in? how does adding to an article hurt it?by picking my nose that is what will hert it.67.172.61.222 20:51, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering your history of vandalism, I'm not going to feed the trolls --† Ðy§ep§ion †  Speak your mind 02:17, 18 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Assuming that, then, has it been reported anywhere that we can use as a reliable source? I've done some Googling, and only come across blogs, tabloids and celebrity gossip columns. — Matt Crypto 18:44, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Lots and lots of people go online to find out what the pee story is all about - just check out any message board devoted to Fergie. Is wikipedia admitting that it can't help those people out? 76.211.87.209 14:53, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wikipedia's policy is to include only facts that can be verified in reliable sources. I have not found a reliable source for this fact, only tabloids, forums and blogs. — Matt Crypto 15:41, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm neutral as to whether this should be included, but it was mentioned in her Rolling Stone cover story interview: "She blames an infamous incident when she peed her pants during a San Diego concert last year on "being buzzed" and having no time to use the restroom."  --Muchness 16:36, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, sure, that could be probably considered a reliable source in this context. There's also this page, which quotes the Daily Record, a Scottish tabloid. There seems to be no doubt that it's true, and lots of people want this info. I think we should include it. — Matt Crypto 16:52, 5 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Definatly. It has a reliable source. It is obvious that it did happen. It is notable. It is interesting and it is at least as encyclopedic as All Your Base Are Belong To Us(though I think it just is encyclopedic.). It should be re added and not touched after.--Matt D 21:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Urination incident (again)

message: I noticed that the infobox says she plays the bongo drums, but this isn't mentioned anywhere in the article. Is this true or vandalism? —ShadowHalo 04:45, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Instrument

message: Everytime I come on here the place of birth always keeps changing. I would like to reach some sort of consensus. Currently it states that she was born in Hacienda Heights. Sources all over the internet give two locations: Hacienda Heights and Whittier, California. The discrepency probably arises from the fact that she grew up in Hacienda Heights but was born in Whittier. Unless she was delivered at home, there's no way she could've been born in Hacienda Heights, because the city has no hospital and never had one. Can this be clarified in the article? I hate to be nitpick but this is an encyclopedia afterall. --† Ðy§ep§ion †  Speak your mind 01:07, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Place of birth

message: I'm not going to delete this section outright. I've added a "citation needed" tag and cleaned it up a bit. What does everyone want to do with this section that Fergie bep created? Can it be sorted into the "music career" section or not? Acalamari 02:57, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Performances" Section.

message: :Add  # Support  or  # Oppose  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~. Please remember that this survey is not a vote, and please provide an explanation for your recommendation.
====Survey - in support of the move====
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====Survey - in opposition to the move====
# Oppose Although she is more well known, people do still recognize her as Stacey Ferguson. There is already a disambiguation page if people search for Fergie. Timclare (talk) (sign here) 18:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: # Oppose Although she is more well known, people do still recognize her as Stacey Ferguson. There is already a disambiguation page if people search for Fergie. Timclare (talk) (sign here) 18:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey - in opposition to the move

message: The most recent reference I can find from a reliable source states that she's not currently engaged: "I've heard that I've been engaged probably about seven times, and pregnant, but I've never been either" (People, Feb 2, 2007). Can someone point me to a more recent reliable source that states that she's engaged? --Muchness 18:11, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fergie has been dating Josh Duhamel well before 2007. I heard that she's been dating him as early as 2005. I don't know how true the info about her being engaged is, so I put the "citation needed" tag on that. Acalamari 20:33, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Engaged or dating?

message: I created the "Other activities" section because there were some things in this article which did not belong in sections like "Music career" and "Acting career." The article looks better now that I have created the section. Acalamari 19:58, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other activities section.

message: Why does this single have chart positions at #1 for all countries and a whopping sales chart of 12m when this single is still to be release? Berserkerz Crit 18:06, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Big Girls Don't Cry

message: The picture on the main page sucks. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 87.13.211.24 (talk) 19:42, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume you mean the picture of Stacy Ferguson on the article itself; as her picture is not on the main page. As for the image, we can only use images that are released for fair or free use. Acalamari 20:06, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Can we find a better picture of here?

message: If she gives an interview that is patently genuine and has significant information about her life, then there does not need a discussion here about it. In fact, reversion is vandalism.
She has admitted that she went on a sex and drugs spree when she got to 18. She said: "I have had lesbian experiences in the past. I won't say how many men I've had sex with - but I am a very sexual person." http://www.mirror.co.uk/showbiz/tm_headline=fergie--i-was-a-lesbian&method=full&objectid=18844637&siteid=89520-name_page.html
Let's not behave like brain-dead preteens. NIghtjar 17:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The reversion was not vandalism, and no bad-faith was intended. I was just doing what I've learned: controversial matters should be discussed on the talk page first. I was not disputing what you wrote, or implying that you were a vandal. Acalamari 17:24, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: relationships

message: I believe Fergie Attended John F Kennedy High School. She has mentioned this before, and her picture is up in a wall of fame at my high school (kennedy). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.106.219.249 (talk) 07:13, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: High School

message: I couldn't help but notice that there's no criticism mentioned on this page. Surely there's been some criticism. Just look at the article for My Humps for example.
(Tyler ) 07:23, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism?

message: Does anybody have a better picture of Fergie? The one that is currently there isn't the best one of her.
I will see if my friend who went to see a concert with her in it has any better ones. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Save-Me-Oprah (talk • contribs) 14:24, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Better Picture

message: I've removed the following section: "She told a Glasgow paper, 'I started doing ecstasy. Then I got addicted to crystal methamphetamine. My weight dropped to 90 lbs so I lied to my friends and said I was bulimic. Finally, I started going crazy.'" Talking about drug addictions without providing a source is the very definition of what should not be happening (see Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Remove unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material). Feel free to put it back in if someone can find a source for the quote. ShadowHalo 02:39, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm...I don't know why that wasn't removed before. To be honest, the only place I've found out about her drug addiction was the NNDB...but that's not a reliable source. Apart from there, I don't know of any other places that said about Fergie having a drug addiction. Acalamari 16:32, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Drug addiction

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thread_title: Assessment comment