Talk:2006 Lebanon War/Archive 4

message: In the intro, the statement by Hezbollah's leader was described as "threat". That is the living definition of POV. Now, I have changed it into "promise" with quotes, as it is the direct quote, but i recognize this too is can be intepreted by those bilnd to quotes as POV. So my thing is how do we call the threat/promise in a NPOV way?--Cerejota 13:40, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Threat vs. promise

message: Fox News just had an alert 
that said (something along the lines):
Israe: Missle targeted at naval fleet, hits civilian boat.  Sorry I can't remember the exact words, but essentially the alert said Israel said that a missle was aimed at their ship and it hit a civilian ship.
Is there any links or other sites, tv, etc reporting and confirming this.  I also question the merits of course, because Israel is reporting this....and there is nothing to confirm it...sorry I couldn't offer more--Jerluvsthecubs 00:40, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: LINK? on Fox News Alert

message: IDF supposedly foiled a Hezbollah infiltration attempt. The reference given is 
Title: IDF forces foil infiltration attempt on northern border. Jerusalem Post: (2006-07-14).
Link: http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150885994586&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
The link does not mention anything about this, nor did a search on the website for "infiltration" yield anything.
Anyone know about this?
--srostami 23:14, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're correct; I reposted it without the URL until it appears in the archives according to Wikipedia:Citing sources. Cheers, TewfikTalk 05:45, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Infiltration attempt reference?

message: With the ongoing operations by countries to get their citizens out of Lebanon, I feel we should either put in this article or write a seperate one about each countries efforts.  I don't know if this is happening or has happened as I'm new to the talk pages on wikipedia.  Njjones 17:12, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It should perhaps be mentioned somewhere, since the UK are sending warships to the area for a possible evacuation (source for this = BBC News 24), as to where it should be mentioned I have no idea... Cryomaniac 22:55, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the US is considering an airborne operation out of Larnaca,Cyrpus using helos or planes.  The closest carrier with helos (USS Iwo Jima) is in the Red Sea and days away due to Marines off shore in Jordan.  I know some governments are moving their citizens from Beirut to Damascus and will fly them out from there, such as Spain.  I doubt this would be allowed for the US due to harsh rhetoric being tossed around by both countries. Njjones 02:57, 16 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Maybe that could be written in a section where something is written about refugees in general? I read that about 60,000 refugees from southern Lebanon hs came to Beirut.  And at the same time the evacuation of foreigners is proceeding of course, for example yesterday 800 swedes arrived in Aleppo with a convoy of buses carrying citizens of various EU countries. --Battra 10:24, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have created an article about the ship that has been hired to evacuate U.S. citizens, the Orient Queen.  A link to this could be included in a section discussing the evacuation. Rest 00:35, 18 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I added the section; I hoped it would be expanded and always expected it would be broken out at the appropriate point. Do keep in mind that this is notable, as in my memory there has been no similar situation where ~250,000 foreign nationals have been trapped in a blockaded war zone with no way out. (And bombs don't check passports, as Canada found.) For people with a friend or relative in the region, this is the most important aspect, which is why it's in the headlines. --Dhartung | Talk 18:14, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Evacuation of Expatriates and Tourists

message: Israeli Home Front Command says that cities southern then Haifa (for example Tel Aviv) should be ready for an attack.  Máfiàg 09:12, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Threat on Central Israel

message: The article currently says that Hezbollah denied responsibility for the attacks on Haifa.  However several sources are now reporting (e.g. ) that Hezbollah broadcast statements on their station, Al-Manar, claiming responsibility for rocket attacks on Haifa and threatening more.  What's unclear is whether these are the same attacks they denied responsibility for initially, or if they still deny responsibility for those but now claim resonsibility for new ones. --Delirium 03:04, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hezbollah responsibility for Haifa attacks

message: Pleas enotice that Yahoo just publishes news from other sources, but is not a source itself. So please when using an article from Yahoo News, look who is the source first, usually AP or Reuters.
--Cerejota 04:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I did.--Jerluvsthecubs 05:14, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Yahoo News is not a source

message: We will wait for more reporting on the web and confirmation BUT
MSNBC reports that witnesses in Tel Aviv saw an Israeli soilder forced into a suspicious vehicle 
FOX NEWS reports Israeli Radio says that a car bomb exploded near Tel Aviv after the Israelis gave a bomber is on the lose warning
FOX NEWS reports that special forces for the IDF are in Lebanon and two Israeli soilders were killed in combat bringing the Israeli death toll to 27.--Jerluvsthecubs 10:07, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: More news reporting on TV