Talk:Emblems of the International Red Cross and Red Crescent Movement

message: The term Greek Red Cross is mentioned 4 times in the article, without an indication of what it is, what it means etc.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:6E00:458C:19D1:F84:EBE0:FE7F (talk) 22:37, 11 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is a Greek Red Cross ? 

message: *If this article is about the official emblems recognised in the Geneva Conventions (i.e. by the high contracting parties) and by the ICRC, the red crystal should be mentioned alongside the red cross, the red crescent and the red lion. The crystal is an official emblem just as the others are. If the article was about all the emblems ever in use by some part of the Movement, we would have to mention the red swastika and others as well. A better title for this article is "Official emblems of the Red Cross Movement".
*The Red Crystal should be merged with the article on the other emblems. That is where it belongs, now that the Third Protocol has been adopted. This is not about atheism, religion or whether it is new and shiny - just a grouping of information about officially recognised symbols that have the same or similar legal foundation, and are used by the same group of organisations. 
A small aside on the "Red Lion and Sun": It is correct that it is not, currently, in use. In fact, it was only ever used in Iran, before the Islamic Revolution. After that, the Iranian authorities changed the emblem used to the Red Crescent, and the National Society followed suit. Just to make the point that at the end of the day, these embems belong to Governments - organisations such as the American Red Cross, the Sudanese Red Crescent and other National Societies are simply licensed (albeit, exclusively within their respective countries) to use them.
--Erkowit 06:01, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically not, or so I am led to believe.  It _is_ unlikely to be used, but it is still valid. Luis Dantas 10:41, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It was in use at least from 1929, up until 1980, albeit apparently only in Iran.  For references, please see , Red Lion and Sun Society, and International Red Cross#Red_Lion_with_Sun:_currently_not_in_use. Luis Dantas 02:52, 14 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger of Red Crystal 

message: The red swastika which is linked from this page should be listed, as apparently there is nothing that makes it more important than the red lion. According it's article it still has offices in Taiwan and Honkong. 84.167.235.25 17:42, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Red Swastika 

message: I just added a section on the J&J lawsuit filed in NY district court on 9 Aug. 2007, including links. Should there be a "timely" tag added to this article, now that there's a big lawsuit boiling down over it? Cheers, all! Strike71 08:27, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emblem Controversy/J&J lawsuit 

message: I think I remember hearing a while back that the Red Cross organisation wanted to make it illegal for computer games to use the image of the red cross for health pickups. However I know very little on the subject and how it was settled(though I have noticed that the image isn't used in games anymore), should it be included here? --Cobsterjh (talk) 14:02, 5 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Computer games 

message: I have a question regarding this article as a whole. What makes it acceptable for WIKIPEDIA to use the symbol? I have tried to find anything in the geneva conventions and in the national laws protecting the symbol, but there is nothing about informational material being an exception to the rule that it shall never be used except by the red cross as an organization. Or are the commons images licensed by the red cross?
In general, can one make a photo of a red cross worker?
Can one make a photo of a person wearing red cross memorabilia like pins?
Can one draw a red cross worker?
Can one draw a red cross memorabilia mug/pin/medal?
Can one make a video of a red cross worker?
Can one make a 3D modeled image of a red cross worker?
Can one make a 3D model of a redcross medal?
And here's the slope:
Can one make a photo/video of a hospital with a red cross? (for recording a personal video)
Can one use a photo/video of a hospital with a red cross for profit? (in a documentary or news)
Can one crop, enhance, or in other ways digitally modify a photo/video of a real building/person with a red cross, and profit off of it? (zooming in on a red cross worker/building in a footage).
Can one make a drawing/3D model of a real hospital with a red cross? (for presentation of the hospital, or in news)
Can one make a 3D model of a person/object featuring the red cross and use it for recreation/reenactment of actual events? (Like documentaries or news) 
Can one make a 3D model of a person/object featuring the red cross and use it for recreation/reenactment of actual events with some creative freedom? (like major hollywood blockbusters)
Can one make a 3D model of a person/object featuring the red cross and use it for recreation/reenactment of speculated/fictional events? (like the red cross being supposedly misused in wartimes in a historical investigative programme)
Can one make a 3D model of a person/object featuring the red cross and use it for recreation/reenactment of completely fictional events? (in a game)
Where would one draw the line?
The whole thing about watering down the significance of the logo is a tad ridiculous as it's found on all sorts of promotional material given out by the red cross, and people are more likeley to confuse it for the actual organization if someone is wearing a pin, mug, jacket,  emblem or whatever they got as a token of recognition at a blood drive or for work with the red cross, than when they see it in a purely digital fictional environment.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.3.181.153 (talk) 21:00, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use in Online Encyclopedias 

message: There is a wiki-link in the article that is broken.  It is under the section heading "Red Crystal".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Crystal#Red_Crystal_emblem_variants 129.98.228.157 (talk) 14:43, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red_Crystal_emblem_variants 

message: Under the heading Red Shield of David, there appears to be several paragraphs about the Red Cross/Crescent movement and musueum.  This is probably a copy/paste from a version of the main Red Cross/Crescent organization page.  It doesn ot belong on the "emblems" page.  It should be deleted, or to the extent that hit consists of useful information, should be merged. 129.98.228.157 (talk) 14:57, 12 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Shield of David 

message: This list  has some Red Crescent societies shown as having it "left" and others "right". Should we mention this? Alinor (talk) 09:10, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Crescent - left and right 

message: The official emblems are not allowed to be edited or modified when they are used by international organisations such as IFRC or ICRC but also by national societies, presumably in order to maintain the neutrality of the movement as a whole (though there might also be more cynical intellectual property reasons). However, during the WWII, the German Red Cross operated under an emblem that combined the red cross emblem and the emblem of nazi germany. I don't know whether there are any other examples of this sort of misuse - as distinct from the abuses refered to above, but was thinking this should probably be included in the article. I was also wondering whether anyone knew how, officially this applies to the Red Crystal which (i think) is often used in conjunction with another national emblems or unofficial red cross/crescent emblems such as the red star of david Capespartel (talk) 07:41, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Compound" Emblems and Misuse 

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message: "The misuse of the red cross symbol turns out to become a kind of an even double misusage of otherwise occupied symbols when first aid teams and stations in USA are falsely indicated by the Swiss national flag by simply re-applying the original idea of the red cross symbol, namely by reversing the red cross symbol's colors, usually seen at US-American ski resorts for indicating first aid or ski patrols, for example."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.78.200.234 (talk) 04:34, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
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message: If someone wanted to communicate these emblems textually, would ,  or , and  do? Arlo James Barnes 22:49, 28 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unicode representation? 

message: Should we add this nav bar? Template:Red_Cross_Red_Crescent_Movement
Alternately, is there a better one to add?
Joe407 (talk) 12:14, 4 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should we add the IRCRC nav bar? 

message: Hello!
I was thinking it could be nice to include images of the proposed and rejected emblems. I am curious about the Red Flame, for instance. Thank you!
Education-over-easy (talk) 16:22, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed emblems 

message: The link in the section 5.4	"Use of the emblems in Singapore" seems to be dead.
Knotfish (talk) 10:10, 16 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead Link 

message: There are two Christian religious orders, the Knights Hospitaller (founded 1099) and Camillians (founded 1586), that use a red cross-like symbol. The Camillians use a red Latin cross, while the Hospitallers (and their descendant organizations) use a white Maltese cross on a red field. Both of them are and were primarily involved in medical work, and prominently display these symbols while performing this work, for example in services provided by Malteser International.
These symbols don't seem to have a direct genealogical relationship to the ICRC's red cross, but they may be worthy of discussion if only to demonstrate this. Are there any reliable sources that compare them to one another? Marisauna (talk) 21:54, 21 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pre-ICRC red crosses