Talk:Four-ball billiards

message: :[This topic was originally posted to :Talk:Cue sport and has been copied here because of its relevance.]
Four ball is a very popular carom game played in Korea. Even though I can't find an English webpage that explains how to play (an indication the game may not be popular among English speakers), I feel the game should be documented in wikipedia.
I can attest that the game is played in the US, as I know it's played in a pool hall in Boston that has carom tables.
I'd like to gather up all the information I have on Four Ball (hopefully by finding a set of rules from a book) and write up a new article. Any objections or thoughts from other people before I move forward?
Note that it's a *carom* game, not to be confused with "American Four-Ball Billiards". The following quote from the Billiard Congress of America website explains American Four-Ball Billiards:
The dominant American billiard game until the 1870’s was American Four-Ball Billiards, usually played on a large (11 or 12-foot), four-pocket table with four balls - two white and two red.
fyi: The game is played with two red balls and two white (cue) balls. One of the white balls is spotted or yellow to differentiate it from the other.
Thanks everyone.--PaulLopez 04:06, 27 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hadn't noticed this post before, so this note is a bit retroactive: The vague mention of a variant in the four-ball article stub led me to fork it into four-ball and yotsudama after some investigation. Both articles need more material and especially some references. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 22:15, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Four Ball 

message: While stationed in Korea, I played Four Ball at the rec room on post. I know that the way I was taught by the local Koreans, your cue ball had to strike both red balls without hitting the opponent's cue. We played to a predetermined point level at which time, we had to "3 cushion" to win (cue ball has to touch 3 cushions before striking the final red ball). This may have been a local variant.
The above rule does not apply to Yotsudama played in Japan.  So the description in the "the Asian Version" section of the article is also inaccurate, because the rules explained here are for the Korean Four-ball, and not for the Japanese Four-ball, or Yotsudama.  The Japanese rules (as myself, a Tokyo resident, and my friends play) are pretty much described in the header of this article --"The game is played on a pocketless table with four balls, usually one light red, one dark red, and two whites (or just two reds and two whites). Each player is assigned one of the white balls as his own cue ball. A point is scored when a shooter caroms on any two other balls. Two points are scored when the player caroms on each o2f the three other balls." --Only the points are counted differently, two when a shooter caroms on a red ball and a white (opponent's cue) ball, three points when a shooter caroms on two red balls, and five points when the player caroms on each of the three balls.  Shonuffyo (talk) 07:06, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Variant 

message: It's very clear from the description of the balls that "Four-ball version 2" is yotsudama.  — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 14:38, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Marking topic resolved, as article was split. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 23:45, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting the article 

message: Can someone create redirect pages from the following terms to this article?
"Korean Pool", "Korean Billiard", "Korean Billiards", "Danggu"
:And four-ball billiards, fourball billiards, 4-ball billiards, etc. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont]  ‹(-¿-)› 08:26, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: PS: "Pool" and "Billiards" should not be capitalized in the above. Korean Billiards with a capital-B should be tagged with  on the redirect. But it should also redirect from the name Korean billiards. Both should have  and  and link to the section.  "Korean pool" is actually wrong, as this is not a pool (pocket billiards) game at all, and should not redirect here, nor as "Korean Pool"; both of those should remain redlinks unless and until we have an article on something called "Korean pool". "Korean billiard" and "Korean Billiard" (the latter with ) are also technically wrong, because "billiard" is not used in the singular this way in English. However, given the difficulty many English-as-a-second-language learners have with plurals in English, they'd be okay as redirects marked with , as well as  and .  Danggu should definitely redirect here, with both of the latter redirect categorization templates.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  01:48, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Just completed all that.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  04:48, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect page request