Talk:Halloween III: Season of the Witch

message: It could have been suggested that Silver Shamrock is responsible for "the evil" (as Loomis repeatedly puts it) that is Michael Myers. They might have produced the mask he wore in the other movies in the franchise.
:Well, Halloween 3 has absolutely nothing to do with the other films (other than the name), so it has nothing to do with Michael Myers at all so their is no way that could be possible or make sense. 71.115.17.228 (talk) 05:21, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A plot ideal that might have worked 

message: I have rewritten/updated this article in a similar fashion as I did Halloween (1978 film) and Halloween II. Added sections on production, reception, criticism, etc. Added pictures. Please copyedit and critique. Dmoon1 06:06, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good work on all of these articles. --Myles Long 15:38, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Dmoon1 15:45, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update 

message: from The Time Out Film Guide (collected reviews from time out magazine) edited by tom milne second edition 1991, p277 reprinting original magazine review by Tom Milne:
"98 minutes"
The title is a bit of a cheat, since the indestructible psycho of the first two films plays no part here. With the possibilities of the characters well and truly exhausted, Season of the Witch turns more profitably to a marvellously ingenious Nigel Kneale tale of a toymaker and his fiendish plan to restore Halloween to its witch cult origins (involving a TV commercaal for toy masks that are in fact diabolical engines). Kneale had his name removed from the credits after tampering with his script had reduced O'Herlihy's toymaker - originally bathed in Celtic mists of myth and magic - to the conventional mad doctor. The end result s a bit of a mess but hugely enjoyable, and often (thanks to Dean Cundey's camerawork and John Carpenter's close supervision as producer)  as striking visually as its predecessors. 
Zzzzz 11:20, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: timeout review

message: What is there to substantiate that the novel was a best seller?  Does the reprint state that? Шизомби 21:54, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Novelization

message: It's not an easy thing to do.  Good stuff!  --P-Chan 03:43, 25 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Congratulations on getting the FA 

message: I'm not sure I can conceive of what such an article would entail...? Шизомби 22:58, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Generic doctor? 

message: I had always thought that she had been an android the entire film and didn't know it herself, created by Cochran to locate her "father" Harry Grimbridge and kill him or to lure anyone he might have told about Cochran's plan to the factory for Cochran to kill himself. Did anyone else think the same thing? GLENN_THE_TOOL 09:21, 4 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And why kill the children in the first place? Because society turned the celtic Samhain into the capitalistic festival of Halloween?--87.184.159.86 (talk) 09:19, 25 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was Ellie an android throughout the film? 

message: If you look closely at one scene where there's a TV, it shows the commercial for the original Halloween movie. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.31.82.0 (talk) 19:34, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commercial 

message: I had read a while back (in Fangoria maybe) that Halloween III was originally supposed to be part of the Halloween television series, and that was the reason for Michael Myers's notable absence. I'm looking for a source, but does anyone else know anything about this? Rob Standefer talk 15:07, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movie's origins 

message: Does anyone know if there's been any commentary regarding the ironic aspect of "mass-marketing the masks" from a film that is basically one big critique of American consumerism and the general commercialization of holidays like Halloween? 66.142.42.216 (talk) 03:15, 7 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irony in the storyline 

message: Under the critical response section, it is said that the movie is anti-capitalism and anti-corporate; I'm I the only one noticing that the activities of Mr. Cochran and the Silver Shamrock Novelty company more closely resembles those of a communist dictatorship, making the movie anti-communism/anti-dictatorship? Although it can be assumed that the Silver Shamrock company was a private organization, but so are the American policial parties that practically run the US government. The curfew, censorship, and security in Santa Mira is something I would more expect to see in communist dictatorships like Cuba (especially the robots going around killing anyone that attempted to expose them), and with the company seemingly being the only form of the government in the town, it could be argued that the company wasn't a private organization at all, but rather a government run semi-monopoly (since there were other brands of masks, but Silver Shamrock dominated the nationwide market). The way that they had taken over the town of Santa Mira, and how they had dominated the halloween mask market, you better believe that the federal government would have been their next target if Conal Cochran was real. In the US, the only time you're likely to see the same thing on every single TV channel (as with the evil commercial in the end of the movie being carried by all three broadcasters) is if it involves the government. The propaganda (aka advertising) used by SSN is used by the private and public sectors alike in real life. In my opinion, Conal Cochran was the exact opposite of a capitalist. His plot to eliminate children very closely resembled Adolf Hitler's genocide; he was, in a way, blaming the children for the commercialization of Halloween, although Hitler wasn't a communist. Perhaps one could compare SSN to the Taliban who has radical religious reasons for hating Americans. The anti-capitalism claims were direct quotes from notable critics, but surely there has to be notable critics that see the anti-communism/anti-dictatorship aspects as well. PCHS-NJROTC (Messages) 22:49, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Anti-Capitalism]] or [[Anti-Communism]]? 

message: Removed the following from the film description: "Moreover, the frequency of graphic violence and gore is less than that of Halloween II (1981), although scenes that depict the deaths of characters remain intense."  This qualifies as original research or opinion.  If this segment is intended to fall under an already-listed source, please make that clear. Bodypuzzle (talk) 05:22, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Research 

message: A cleanup page has been created for WP:FILMS' spotlight articles. One element that is being checked in ensuring the quality of the articles is the non-free images. Currently, one or more non-free images being used in this article are under discussion to determine if they should be removed from the article for not complying with non-free and fair use requirements. Please comment at the corresponding section within the image cleanup listing. Before contributing the discussion, please first read WP:FILMNFI concerning non-free images. Ideally the discussions pertaining to the spotlight articles will be concluded by the end of June, so please comment soon to ensure there is clear consensus. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:00, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion pertaining to non-free image(s) used in article

message: I did a large revert to the version approved for FA status. There is absolutely NO WAY the article, as it stood before my revert, could be considered anywhere close to FA quality, or even GA. It was filled with loads of unsourced POV, weasel words, and other things seriously affecting the quality. It will need a lot of work and sourcing if it is to be restored to the last version before I reverted. VoteJagoffForMayor (talk) 19:00, 7 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert 

message: I wanted to nominate this article to be on the Main Page for Halloween, but after skimming through it, it really needs some work.  There are a bunch of issues that go against FA criteria, which I'll try to address here before going to WP:FARC.  Since this article doesn't seem to be maintained, I will go to WP:FARC if there are no detailed replies anytime soon.
*In-line references – Many statements lack references throughout the article.  There are really too many to tag, so I'll just place a notice at the top.  Simple as that.
*Sources – There are currently 36 different sources cited in this article, which is not very many.  By comparison, Laserblast, which is a much more obscure and little-known film, has 69 references and is not yet a featured article.  Additionally, many of the sources that are present are not reliable sources.  This includes six IMDb references, which do not satisfy WP:IRS.
*Non-free media – A few non-free images do not seem to satisfy non-free content guidelines.  This includes a cropped screenshot of Tom Atkins's character, which does nothing more than identify the actor in the role (who has free media available).  There is also an image of John Carpenter composing the music on a synthesizer, but that image really isn't needed to illustrate the fact that he composed the music on a synthesizer.  I think the second half of that last sentence summarized it quite well.
–Dream out loud (talk) 22:07, 26 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup needed to keep FA status 

message: I deleted the "legacy" segment which had no references and some veiled personal opinion. It also stated that the film has been "officially" called a cult classic - by whom? 81.104.9.27 (talk) 20:12, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The film has definitely acquired a cult legacy. See this: How Halloween III Went From Reviled to Revered In Just 30 Years. A "Legacy" section wouldn't be too much of a stretch for the film, because it's definitely acquired a new fan base. Older fans of the series have also gotten over the fact that Myers was absent and grown to appreciate the film as its own vehicle. 1.123.44.53 (talk) 03:41, 11 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legacy 

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