Talk:Finnish War

message: Please read these United Nations toponymic guidelines for Finland: . In essence: "In foreign languages, names of monolingual areas should appear in the form they have in the official language of those areas (for instance fi Iisalmi, sv Mariehamn), unless there are no other established names in the languages in question. In bilingual areas, the names in the majority language should be preferred (for instance fi Helsinki, Turku, Vaasa; sv Jakobstad, Nykarleby, Pargas, Ekenäs.)" The article is CONTEMPORARY and so the UN guidelines are recommendable even when dealing with matters of the past. The recommendation is not changed by the fact that in Finland Finnish only gained an equal status with Swedish in 1892 as municipal place names are about equally old in both languages. (The case here is pretty much similar to e.g. Irish place names.) There's no necessity to switch place names according to a particular historical period especially if the different place names happen to be equally old. In Finland's case (as in Ireland's), the place naming should not follow according to the linguistic policies of the past. Overall, using multiple place names results easily in "historical multiplicity" - many strories for the same thing - which makes history totally clustered and obscure. In many cases, this article should use the Finnish place name as primary the Swedish minority place name being in parentheses for a more objective approach. Clarifer 15:41, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't start it all over again. I have an impression that you and Krohn, without contributing anything valuable yourselves, stalk my new articles with the purpose of uglifying them as much as possible. Please take notice that stalking is frowned upon and may lead to admin action. --Ghirla -трёп- 15:44, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry if you feel like that. It seems that you take your information from older books? Just trying to update your articles here and make them look a bit more contemporary and neutral... Finland is a bilingual country and perhaps you are unfamiliar with such a country? You can compare the situation with that in Belgium, Switzerland or Canada and with Ireland (perhaps the best analogy) if you wish to... if it helps... but please, please, inform yourself on this, ok? Clarifer 16:03, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh and I'm not "stalking", I just saw this in the box of "russo-swedish wars" and followed the link. I didn't know you wrote it. Again, as to the content I have nothing to add or remove. The content seems very good. However, you seem to use the toponyms in a very odd way.... Clarifer 16:07, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finland's toponyms in a contemporary English text 

message: Is it a swedish or a russian soldier on the picture? --212.247.27.92 22:42, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like a Swedish soldier to me
84.219.25.230 19:03, 28 January 2007 (UTC)

text: The soldier is definitely from the Swedish army, though probably Finnish by nationality, as were most of the lower ranks in Finland (the musket with fixed bayonet marks him as not an officer). Note the Swedish pattern headgear. The painting is by Helene Schjerfbeck (1862-1946), Finland's bet-known woman artist. It is called "Wounded soldier in the snow, from the year 1808" and was painted in 1880.--Death Bredon 16:45, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The picture 

message: The text gives the impression that Johan Adam Cronstedt was in command of the whole Swedish army in Finland at the beginning of the war. This is incorrect; J.A. Cronstedt was only the commander of the Savo Regiment, which was responsible for the eastern sector. The C-in-C was originally lieutenant general Carl Nathanael af Klercker, who was prepared to defend Hämeenlinna against the initial Russian attack but was replaced on March 1st 1808 by field marshal Wilhelm Mauritz Klingspor, who ordered the army to retreat. Klingspor was unwilling to commit to battle, and was removed from command in September 1808, being replaced by af Klercker.--Death Bredon 17:04, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commanders 

message: The four map images in this article are anachronistic as they use modern borders, not the ones at the time of this war. It would be best to have map images that correspond to the time period in question.  –– TimSE 19:47, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anachronistic map images 

message: Why is this known by the Swedish name if the war was begun by the Russian Empire? In any case, the fact that it was fought in what is today Finland does not mean it is a "Finish" war, but rather a part fo the conflict between Russian and England, and Sweden as England's ally. So, while every other war is known by the states that fought them, or the causes they fought for (the Coalition wars against France), this one is named after a province of a state? Why would that be?--mrg3105 (comms) ♠♥♦♣ 06:37, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The name - a (maybe) silly question 

message: Is there any guess for casualties? Any book or other source that would throw a estimation?Kuhlfürst (talk) 15:54, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to  the Russian article, there were about  men on the Russian side,  on the Swedish-Finnish side; among these were about  resp.  casualties (it is not clear whether they account for the only wounded).        Trassiorf (talk) 13:44, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Casualties