Talk:Leah Remini

message: What is the correct pronunciation of her first name?
99.149.193.21 (talk) 03:02, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Lee-uh  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.54.129.25 (talk) 16:59, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: How To Pronounce Her First Name

message: The article states that her parents divorced in 1967 and that she was born in 1970. While it is certainly not unusual for this to happen, I think something along the lines of how this happened (if it isn't a typo) could be useful.
Especially since she has a full sister and a half sister who seem to both have been born in 1969.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.87.52.49 (talk • contribs) 22:55, March 18, 2008‎
:Her age is obviously still in dispute because it's currently listed as both 1970 and 1973.  Can someone please sort this out?139.216.110.231 (talk) 22:43, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The only source I see in the article says 1970. Another editor has changed it to 1973 4 times earlier today, but it was reverted only 3 of those times. Should be ok now. As for "how this happened", we do not have sources discussing this, so we have nothing to say. - SummerPhD (talk) 03:12, 11 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The editor in question ignored warnings, was blocked for the unsourced changes, came back after their block to make the same unsourced change, ignored more warnings and has now been indefinitely blocked. - SummerPhD (talk) 20:35, 14 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Year of Birth vs. Parents Divorce

message: I believe that she played on an episode of Cheers one time as Carla's daughter..
:She played Serafina Tortelli a couple of times, although I think that Serafina was acctually Carla's daughter in law Djarra 14:51, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cheers

message: It is said she is Roman Catholic and later that she is a Scientologist. You can't be both at the same time   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chuck0856 (talk • contribs) 20:42, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scientology 

message: Changing status, as references have been added, trivia section removed.  clearly not a stub, IMO.-Robotam 13:12, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Stub/Start status

message: In what way is she Italian-American, if she was born in New York, and only one of her parents is Italian?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.206.38.46 (talk) 23:05, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italian? 

message: On July 1st, an unregistered user SPPTS removed the mention of Leah Remini as a Scientologist, diff []. The section was well sourced, using Remini herself as source. Why was this removed? Thimbleweed (talk) 19:28, 5 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks to editor who cleaned it up! 31.45.116.138 (talk) 14:15, 6 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Scientology mention removed?

message: User:50.47.210.98 added the name of one of Remini's half-sisters, but I couldn't find any source to verify this. Please feel free to re-add this information when a source is made available. Laval (talk) 23:18, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Half-sister

message: In reference to leaving the CoS: "Allegedly" is not accurate and is a "weasel word". "Reportedly" is accurate and does not carry the baggage that "allegedly" does. =//= Johnny Squeaky 19:24, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: it has been confirmed by reliable sources.Coffeepusher (talk) 20:44, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Confirmed by who? Unnamed "reliable sources" are not reliable sources at Wikipedia. Do you have a link to this "reliable source"? "The Hollywood Reporter" says "is leaving" not "has left" and doesn't quote any named source. Perhaps in due course, Remini will confirm she has made this good-sense decision to leave CoS, but that has not yet happened. At this point, it is still speculation attributed to anonymous sources. I also think we need to aspire to a high standard of what constitutes being confirmed by a "reliable source", and quite frankly, "The Hollywood Reporter" is only marginally better than TMZ. =//= Johnny Squeaky 21:01, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: well the "named source" is Remini herself.  "In a statement to THR, the "King of Queens" actress shares her "heartfelt appreciation" for "the overwhelming positive response" she has received since her exit."  Now with three sources stating the fact, I think we can remove "reportedly" from the beginning of the section.  I'm also a little confused as to how THR is considered not a reliable source.Coffeepusher (talk) 21:15, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You are misquoting the statement. =//= Johnny Squeaky 21:22, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Um...that was a cut and paste.Coffeepusher (talk) 21:27, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

text: The statement you are quoting says nothing about CoS at all. You are misquoting it. In fact it says: "I wish to share my sincere and heartfelt appreciation for the overwhelming positive response I have received from the media, my colleagues, and from fans around the world. I am truly grateful and thankful for all your support." Where does she say she quit? Where does it say anything about CoS at all? Of course she quit, but she has not yet said so. =//= Johnny Squeaky 21:22, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: it states that in the opening sentence of the source.  "Leah Remini is leaving Scientology after questioning its treatment of church members and the controversial, allegedly autocratic leadership of David Miscavige, The Hollywood Reporter confirms."Coffeepusher (talk) 21:26, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: After rereading and lots of searches, Leah herself has implyed, has not directly said anything. I am going to have to change my view and keep like to keep the page on "reportedly", until we get something direct.  A biography of a living person is a tricky area, and there should be no speculation in an encyclopedia. Tek022 | Comments? 21:30, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Another thing to note, please make heed of the three revert rule right now. Tek022 | Comments? 21:32, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm willing to keep it as is until another source comes out.  Any chance we can get that strike I asked for User:Johnny Squeaky? Coffeepusher (talk) 21:34, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Coffee, and I'm all for changing it when Remini makes a more solid statement on the issue. I've edited my comments, though I think my opinion was pretty tame... =//= Johnny Squeaky 21:38, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you please also review the "three" part of the 3RR rule, you placed a 3RR warning on my talk page after my first revert.  This is considered inappropriate.Coffeepusher (talk) 21:52, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The record shows that you reverted me twice. Now, it is really quite ironic that you are now "lecturing" me, after you insisted on including unreferenced speculation as fact. In an attempt to be polite to you, I edited my talk comments to please you, and now you "lecture" me when in fact my position was sustained? Wow. By the way, your talk page indecates you have a history of being involved in "edit wars" so perhaps you should heed your own advice? =//= Johnny Squeaky 21:57, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

text: Are you threatening me now? Seriously? =//= Johnny Squeaky 22:04, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: nope, just stating a fact.  I have been accused on my talk page of edit wars by...three? people (you were the one who checked my history so perhaps you could clarify the exact number).  All three were banned soon thereafter.  Funny thing is that one of them did the exact same thing to me as you did, giving me a 3RR tag in responce to me giving one to him (when I only had 2 reversions).  Now you are making the exact same accusation after giving me a 3RR tag after I only reverted once (changed the article twice) in response to me giving you a tag after changing the page four times, reverting three times.  So I am just pointing out that just because someone comes to your page and accuses you of edit wars, the community doesn't necessarily agree with those accusations, and I am wondering if you are going to escalate this to the point of getting banned like those other users did.Coffeepusher (talk) 22:11, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: now just to clarify how you figure 3RR, go to the history page and simply count how many times it says "undid" in the edit summary.  notice how you have three and I have one.Coffeepusher (talk) 22:15, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: So, you did not prevail in adding inaccurate speculation, and now you are abusing me for it. Nice. =//= Johnny Squeaky 22:18, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Look, you abused the 3RR template by placing it on a page after only one reversion which I can understand was something done in the heat of the moment and I am sure in retrospect you aren't going to do that again.  You got called out on that, which is what happens when you abuse templates.  Now lets get back to finding a source shall we?Coffeepusher (talk) 22:25, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You started an edit war with me, and now you have threatened to have me banned. I think you're out of line and I'm done responding to your heavy handed posts. =//= Johnny Squeaky 22:31, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not threatening you, but I will strike the statement above which asks if you are going to follow suit if that will make you feel better.  There, is that better?  In the future perhaps you should consider what reaction abusing templates will have before you misuse them.Coffeepusher (talk) 22:37, 12 July 2013 (UTC)

text: Rattle on. The fact is, you attempted to include speculation as fact. You seem bitter and vindictive going after me for catching it. =//= Johnny Squeaky 22:40, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for sharing.Coffeepusher (talk) 22:42, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You're welcome. I also accept your thanks for removing - at your request - my Talk comments that I thought the CoS was a "batshit crazy cult". I removed those comments to accommodate your polite request. =//= Johnny Squeaky 00:09, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh! Excuse me, like your ungentlemanly threats to me, I should probably line that comment through. Done! =//= Johnny Squeaky 00:18, 13 July 2013 (UTC)

text: "Kid"? That's a bit of an assumption, yes? And perhaps a subtitle insult? Second, it is not for you to decide unilaterally what is viewable on this Talk Page and what is not. You, sir, are harassing me, and for no other reason than I called you on placing speculation in an article. YOU need to step back, take a deep breath, and work on some other project. =//= Johnny Squeaky 05:23, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allegedly vs Reportedly  

message: Remini's sister Nicole has now spoken at length about recent events in an interview with what appears to be a St Paul, MN radio station - see here. It looks a reliable enough source and it sheds a lot of light on what appears to have gone down here - the whole Remini family seems to have left in a group. Worth adding to the article? Prioryman (talk) 16:25, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That's *very* interesting. It sure does imply she left (maybe more than "imply"). I'm not an "expert" on "reliable sources", but it sure sounds like a confirmation that Leah Remini did in fact depart the CoS... =//= Johnny Squeaky 02:22, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not "nitpicking". But, Coffeepusher, content in ANY article needs a reliable source. =//= Johnny Squeaky 17:07, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: not me kid, but I understand why you made that conclusion.  Looks like you have a fan in Tennessee though.  Best of my knowledge I've only driven through that state, and that was pre-wifi.Coffeepusher (talk) 19:57, 19 July 2013 (UTC)

text: If you remember, I actually ended up agreeing that we needed a direct source from her before we could add the content.  Why would I back out of that like our friend 98.87..... did?Coffeepusher (talk) 19:59, 19 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Nashville! =//= Johnny Squeaky 01:31, 20 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Antioch actually, which is...heck if I know, didn't realize there was an Antioch Tennessee.  Cheers! Coffeepusher (talk) 04:20, 20 July 2013 (UTC)

text: The source is indeed reliable, and the departures are not "implied", they're stated outright. Yes, it is worth adding to the article, as I just did. Thanks, Prioryman. Nightscream (talk) 02:37, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the addition, this is relevant to the Disconnection article as well. Thimbleweed (talk) 07:49, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Remini's sister speaks out

message: It's interesting what gets deleted as a "copyright violation" at Wikipedia, and what does not. I guess someone with lawyers griped about the Leah Remini image, because Wikipedia is RIFE with copyrighted images (non-CC) that various "editors" pipe up and pump and "fair use" because there isn't any other or some other similar rationalization bullshit. I could probably look at 20 random articles and find copyrighted images in half of them... But you know, you can't fight entrenched "senior editors" with WP:OWN issues, and in fact, you can't troop through 2 or three articles at random without tripping over "senior editors" and possibly "admin editors" with WP:OWN issues, but that's the way wikipedia is... I'm sure one of these fine folks described above will leave a "nasty-gram" on my Talk Page advising me that they have the right to ban be for these comments, to which I will respond: "Yeah, yeah, typical..." =//= Johnny Squeaky 08:44, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You're saying that you disagree with the practice of copyrighted images being used under a clam of Fair Use? Or do you feel that the Fair Use claims under which those other images were being used were bogus? Can you offer examples of those articles/images?  Nightscream (talk) 14:44, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image removal 

message: I believe the current sections on "The Talk" and Scientology are too long compared to the rest of the article. Ms. Remini has been a professional performer for twenty five years; it seems that aspect should be more important than a short stint on a TV show and excessive detail of her decision to leave Scientology - which is rather a private matter. It should be enough to say she was involved and then left.Catherinejarvis (talk) 14:29, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: As a public figure, she discussed this "private matter" with newspapers and on talk shows. It received substantial coverage in independent reliable sources. Personally, when I need to talk about a "private matter", I call a good friend. I don't write a book about it. - SummerPhD (talk) 15:01, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy for its own sake 

message: Here is a brief history of various attempts to add unsourced or poorly sourced claims that Remini converted to Roman Catholocism after leaving Scientology.
Keep in mind as you read the following that in Wikipedia articles, religious beliefs (or lack of such) should not be referenced unless the subject has publicly self-identified with the belief or orientation in question, and the subject's beliefs are relevant to their public life or notability, according to reliable published sources, and that we do not allow Twitter as a source involving claims about third parties.
01:43, 16 December 2014, user:95.144.34.29 Claimed that Remini is catholic, giving a reference to [ http://iajournal.com/leah-remini-catholic-quitting-church-scientology/ ] a source that actually says that she made "a reference to praying as a Catholic following the tragic death of James Gandolfini" on her twitter account. Even if true (doubtful, see below) saying a prayer in not the same thing as being a member of the Catholic Church.
09:12, 29 March 2015, user:95.144.32.62 claimed that Remini is Catholic, giving a reference to the same source used above.
09:13, 29 March 2015, user:95.144.32.62 added a cite to [ http://tonyortega.org/2013/07/05/has-leah-remini-left-the-church-of-scientology/ ], an anti-scientology blog. Besides being a blog and citing Wikipedia as the source for the "Catholic" claim, this is rather obviously the source that the iajournal.com page was based upon.
20:13, 15 July 2015, user:67.1.223.95 tries to claim  that she was a catholic from 1976–2013. No source.
01:32, 7 September 2015, user:2.29.29.22 claims that she it Catholic, citing the notoriously unreliable Daily Mail [ https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Leah_Remini&type=revision&diff=679828374&oldid=678345366 ]. The actual article shows her ten-year-old daughter being baptized as a Catholic (not the same thing as joining the catholic Church) and interprets another ambiguous tweet.
16:23, 8 September 2015, user:2.29.29.22 claims that she is Catholic. No source.
 
05:11, 1 November 2015 I remove the unsourced claim.
21:59, 16 November 2015 user:95.144.240.52 puts it back.
02:23, 17 November 2015. I remove it again.
20:21, 21 November 2015 user:M.O.X puts it back in, this time citing [ http://www.christianpost.com/news/leah-reminis-daughter-baptized-as-catholic-for-more-spiritual-existence-2-years-after-leaving-scientology-144924/ ] -- another website that is obviously repackaging the Daily Mail article, which in turn repackaged the Italian American Journal article, which in turn relied upon the same tweets as everyone else. This time the claim is "She converted to Catholicism two years after her departure from the Church of Scientology", which is nowhere is the source provided.
23:28, 21 November 2015. I remove it again.
11:32, 23 November 2015, user:M.O.X tries again, this time with the Daily Mail cite.
19:28, 23 November 2015. I remove it again.
So we have a handful of dodgy websites all regurgitating conclusions about a couple of ambiguous tweets (maybe "going home" means literally going back to their house after the event), a second party tweeting "we have always been Catholic" and somehow turning that into "converted to Catholicism two years after leaving Scientology" and a daughter deciding to be baptized as a Catholic. Where is the place where Leah Remini self-identifies as practicing Catholic? Where did that "two years after" figure come from? --Guy Macon (talk) 00:23, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: So what you're saying is... there are no Catholics on this planet, because no evidence is sufficient to prove them so? 68.3.76.17 (talk) 20:55, 21 July 2023 (UTC)

text: Damn. That People interview certainly counts as a WP:RS on this subject. I will add it! RobP (talk) 19:25, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Celebrity Echo Chamber 

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message: Can a section be made about Scientology organize staking ex members? I believe Mike Rinder's organized stalking was documented on tv? It would be nice if the term was used on the tv series. CROSS MY FINGERS. 205.189.94.12 (talk) 19:37, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organize Stalking /Gang Stalking 

message: Not a bad place to live - Family lived in a middleclass area but Leah claims she was exploited. Wow
She had a half sister that lived in Staten Island and went to Csi.  - heres the link 
School of scientogoly could just be made up - leah doesn't seem like she liked her family.  2603:7000:B901:8500:C096:45C2:26CA:7EC4 (talk) 23:25, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Half Sister from Staten Island.