Talk:Extreme ironing

message: :Disclosure: I started extreme ironing in 1998 and ran the website from 2000-2006. While I don't do it anymore myself, it is still done by thousands of others around the world. I don't think this page should be a list of every extreme ironing stunt ever done, especially those that are publicity stunts for brands. There's a Facebook page for all that kind of thing. My suggestion is that we only have the major examples, that are cited by influential media outlets. Thoughts? I have deleted a couple of examples in the meantime and suggest that if in doubt users debate points or make requests for inclusion here --Theredrocket aka Steam 11:23, 15 Aug 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: General guidelines for inclusion

message: is this a typo? on the first line? --Ballchef 12:39, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  IE or EI 

message: "Extreme ironing" is not a sport. It is a joke. (Ironing is not a sport, no matter where it is practiced.) "Extreme ironing" is jokingly called a "sport" by the joke's inventors and by those who perpetuate the joke, including the BBC on its website. However, this is done in a spirit of irony.
Wikipedia is an encyclopedia. Encyclopedias are not a place for jokes. Therefore, Wikipedia is not a place for jokes.
(I beg to differ. Extreme ironing is not only a makeshift "sport", it's above all a significant cultural meme; there are groups of people joining together in extreme ironing contests out there, and the phenomenon has clearly expanded in the past few years since its inception. As such, it does have a place in the Wikipedia, I think. If you don't agree, maybe the articles on "april fool's" or "rickrolling" should be removed as well?)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.102.43.234 (talk) 01:33, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a consensus to keep the article; it has already been listed for deletion once.  I have cut the article back to what can be verified once already however the proponents of "Extreme ironing" returned and, in the course of edits spread out over several days, added much of the junk back in.  I believe that the proper thing to do is to cut the article back to material that can be verified using citable sources.  I don't have a problem with the article being here but we should not be parroting the "Extreme ironing" press releases any more than we parrot anybody else's press releases.  The Uninvited Co., Inc. 22:07, 16 December 2005 (UTC)

text: I received a reply from Cogent PR who, apparently, handles PR for Groupe SEB in the U.S.  The representative advised me that there is in fact a relationship between Rowenta and Phil Shaw, and included a copy of a related press release.  The Uninvited Co., Inc. 17:44, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV issue 

message: Phil Shaw is notable for nothing except his involvement to this article's topic.  Unless someone expands his article with reliable sources in three days, I'll merge him to this one. -- Perfecto 03:03, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Merge done by UninvitedCompany.  Thanks. -- Perfecto 00:17, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phil Shaw 

message: I'm assuming from the nature of the sport that this stands for "Extreme Ironing Board", but it's not mentioned explicitly in the article, though the acronym is used. Any chance of a confirmation? GeeJo (t) (c) • 08:57, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  EIB 

message: The extra information included with the file says it was created in photoshop 7... Could just be a crop, but that guy doesn't seem to have a harness or anything either...—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.69.131.172 (talk • contribs).
: The metadata of :Image:Extremeironing.jpg states photoshop has been used--Golden Wattle  talk 01:09, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  See discussion on the image talk page.  --  Zanimum 18:08, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image credibility? 

message: There's scores of newspapers who reported on extreme ironing.
Could we get a little more independant sources in here instead of links to the official site itself? - Mgm|(talk) 11:38, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I endorse that confirmation from reliable sources is required--Golden Wattle  talk 00:56, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: This 2002 BBC article is no better than the wikipedia article - somebody has merely persuaded the BBC to publish a few photos as a joke.  Other refs seem merely publicity for http://www.extremeironing.com/ or college level humour --Golden Wattle  talk 01:04, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: See also: Darwin awards. I am sure high performance in this sport greatly increases one's chances for the award ;p -- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  22:43, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  An idea 

message: This article was the subject of the recent WikiWorld, so I came to take a look.  I was rather surprised to see it tagged as a hoax article; however, after only a minute of Googling, i came to the conclusion that it is real.  For example, here's a New York Times article from 2004: .  There's also some BBC links:  .    The Times article mentions the corporate sponsorship.  
In any case, this article could be better referenced.  I haven't thoroughly gone over the article to check the details.  But the person alleging hoax is plainly mistaken.  Therefore I have removed the tag.  --C S (Talk) 05:46, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The New York Times article is only a publicity blurb for the same two men.  Where are the articles about these vast numbers of practitioners.  Where is some evidence other than photoshopped or staged images?  One or two men with a publicity spin doesn't seem to be encyclopaedic to me.  They claim that there are 1500 "ironists" world wide - surely some of the others should be written about sometimes too.  I won't replace the hoax tag just yet, but a reliable source probably needs to be something other than a regurgitation or similar of a press release from the same two people.--Golden Wattle  talk 09:43, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you talking about?  Publicity blurb?  You have a misguided idea of reliable source.  The NY Times article is definitely one.  You seem to think a reliable source is one that has been personally vetted by you to not be a "press release".   You're making unsupported claims.  For example, with only a few minutes of searching, I found an article about other "ironists": .  If you would like specific statements sourced, you can add a citation needed tag, but adding a hoax tag is completely unjustified.   --C S (Talk) 10:43, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I didn't add the hoax tag, please commetn on content onot contributers.  Read the NYT article, it is featherweight journalism, even if from a reputable source about two Englishmen touring America providing a few photo opportunities, I read it as self-promotion, not the subject of investigative journalism, hence my reference to press releases - do you think the NYT went out and found them?  --  Golden Wattle  talk 10:48, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Is that a rhetorical question?  Because it's completely irrelevant.  You continue to dismiss valid sources as self-promotion, which is wrong.  (I never said you added the hoax tag, but you implied you would re-add it.) --C S (Talk) 10:58, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

text:  What are they self-promoting? Are you suggesting it's an attempt to sell books and tapes? Look, there was a full documentary about the sport, and an international competition.  --  Zanimum 18:07, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a hoax 

message: Even if this sport isn't really a sport, and people only do it when cameras are around, what's the problem? It's still an activity that people do, just with their tongue firmly implanted in their cheek. And I don't think the founders of the sport have ever denied that they're doing all of this with a sense of humour.  --  Zanimum 18:11, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Even if... 

message: This is the only false part of the article I found... there's no good references for this rumour.  --  Zanimum 18:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Found unreal info 

message: This really pretty extremely unlikely (and quite probably impossible) claim has been here since the 20th of February. What's really astonishing is that people copyedited it without, apparently, actually reading it. (In fact, the copyediting leaves something to be desired too.) Well, per WP:BLP, I'm removing it. You can do what you like with it.
:On 12 November 2006 Adam Pearce, known in the wrestling world as "Scrap Iron Adam Pearce", launched himself and an industrial ironing press from a plane flying at 25,000 feet and firmly pressed a shirt, his parachute (which he repacked in mid air), the pants he was wearing,  a pair of wrestling tights; he then landed safely, drank a Dr. Pepper and was generally smug.  Subsequent to this event he was awarded the coveted "Champion Of The Universe" title in extreme ironing.
As this is the sort of thing that tends to attract media attention, I'm sure someone can point to a good source for it. 69.140.12.199 19:03, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  There's unsourced, and then there's ''unsourced''. 

message: Extrême Ironing (également appelé IE ) est un sport extrême et un art de la performance dans laquelle les gens prennent un repassage carte à un emplacement distant et articles de fer de vêtements . Selon le site officiel, le repassage extrême est «le sport le dernier danger qui combine les frissons d'une activité extrême de plein air avec la satisfaction d'une chemise bien repassé."
Une partie de l'attrait et l'intérêt des médias a montré à repasser extrême semble se centrer sur la question de savoir si c'est vraiment un sport ou non. Il est largement considéré comme pince-sans-rire. [ 1 ]
Certains endroits où de tels spectacles ont eu lieu notamment d'une montagne d'une difficile ascension , une forêt , dans une pirogue , tandis que le ski ou la planche à neige ; au-dessus de grandes bronze statues, au milieu d'une rue; sous-marine, dans le milieu de la M1 Autoroute; [ 2 ] au cours d'une Kirin course; [ 3 ] tandis que le parachutisme; [ 4 ] et sous le couvert de glace d'un lac. Les performances ont été réalisées en solo ou en groupe.      
                                             صغحوءؤب أيلنسط  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.224.241.176 (talk) 18:13, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  extreme ironing 

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message: Is ironing a Union Jack really "extreme ironing"?  The first paragraph specifies "items of clothing". --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 17:25, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It is when it's done at Everest base camp.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 17:37, 10 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Union Jack" 

message: I found this topic and attempted to verify the “sport” and I found it very difficult to ascertain the legitimacy of this activity. I had hoped Wikipedia might provide more information however the article seems like most press on the “sport” and comes across as biased or in the least a promotional tool. 
The biggest problem is that it is called Extreme Ironing, yet I can find little to no evidence of any clothes actually being ironed in the sense of the intention of the activity - being that a crinkled item of clothing is pressed via heat and/or steam. The majority of footage or photography is of someone (albeit in an extreme situation) pretending to iron, rather than actually ironing.
I think - whether the “sport” is a hoax or a photo joke like planking or not - there should be a Wikipedia section on this page or an article explaining the technical side of the ironing and whether clothes are in fact ironed or not. Because underwater ironing is impossible. Ironing whilst skydiving is impossible. 
If it’s just pretending, and the pretending aspect of Extreme Ironing is itself the sport, then this should be outlined on Wikipedia.
Apologies as this is the first post I’ve made. And I would help with the article but I’ve never contributed to Wikipedia before and don’t feel I’d be deserving of such a contribution.
I merely want this article to be clarified, as most media and writing on this subject seems to be biased and misleading.
Thanks heaps. 60.240.232.17 (talk) 02:43, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extreme Ironing yet no ironing. What the? 

message: The citation for extreme cello playing doesn't mention extreme ironing at all, and is significantly earlier than most other sources. Can't say that it was inspired by extreme ironing based on that alone.  Picnicsandstars (talk) 01:09, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relation to Extreme Cello Playing