Talk:Posek

message: I made 2 changes, I hope they are uncontroversial. Firstly, reform & reconstructionist do largely believe that e.g. the ten commandments have binding and normative character, so I felt it wasn't quite correct to say they don't accept Jewish law (implying any Jewish law) as binding.. only those on the extreme progressive wing, or in the very early days (19th century) of the Reform movement, might take that attitude. Second, it's true that Reform/Reconstructionist rabbinic training doesn't emphasise as much study of poskim and dinim, but I didn't agree with the reason given. After all, these movements believe that each individual must live by rules, which they derive, by whatever process, from the words of the Torah and the Oral Law, and this in my view constitutes a normative approach to law which Reform rabbis study profoundly (including study of traditional Jewish din). Feedback welcome. Zargulon 01:51, 3 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Reconstructionist and Reform, and Jewish Law

message: I wrote "Rabbi" in front of R' Yosef' and R' Eliashiv's names, and added that decisions by the Conservative board of rabbis are somewhat respected in the Reform and Reconstructionist community but do not carry any signicance for Orthodox Jews, who do not recognize their authority. --Daniel575 19:56, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed "do not carry any signicance for Orthodox Jews, who do not recognize their authority" because this is implied... Fintor 06:50, 7 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Agree with removal and reason Zargulon 07:26, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Some minor changes

message: I do not think that the articles should be merged, similar to the way Ecclesiastical court and canon are now separate. Avi 20:20, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge with Halakha

message: Regarding Askenazic Jewery in the US, wouldn't HaRav Dovid Feinstein be considered the Posek? Avi 20:20, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: LOL. Amongst the Haredim (which make up the overwhelming majority of the people who care what a Posek has to say), Rabbi Dovid Feinstein is considered more of a person to actively avoid than follow. Basically, any question of merit is almost always kicked straight over to Eretz Yisrael. PhatJew 09:16, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Posek HaDor

message: The problem with "decisor" is that there's no such word.  It's not that the people who translate it that way are think it means something different, it's that they're making up a word for the same thing that everyone else says it means.  -- Zsero (talk) 13:02, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Decisor" 

message: There should be no reason to exclude the names of known notable poskim from this article's lists on the grounds that "they don't have articles on WP about them" since that is no reason to be excluded from any article on WP. On the contrary, many articles start off because names are written down in those articles, quite often with "red links" as signs that they will get or deserve future articles, in the meantime having the names produces more comprehensive and encyclopedic information. IZAK (talk) 01:59, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: True. Just that these three without a Wikipedia link are unknown to me, while all the other ones I know about. And I am a rabbi, after all. Debresser (talk) 14:41, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Isee some IP user agreed with me on this. Anyway, I ask IZAK not to make any more edits unless he can show consensus to the contrary. Debresser (talk) 18:06, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Aha, so you are a rabbi, what makes you think you are the only rabbi floating around WP and making edits??? But that has nothing to do with it, because from your comments you admit you do not know them when they are in fact VERY notable, particularly Rabbis Feivel Cohen and Dovid Cohen who are famous in the Litvish yeshiva communities of Brooklyn, New York and the USA. They have both published extensively and are sought out poskim. Dovid Cohen is the posek for Aish HaTorah in the USA as well as other organizations, and Feivel Cohen (a former rosh yeshiva also) is famous for his Halachic books, the Badei Hashulchan on Hilchos Nidda, and more. They both head congregations of laymen scholars in Flatbush, Brooklyn, USA, one of the world's largest English-speaking Haredi communities and you only reveal your shortcomings by trying to limit them. WP is after all an open encyclopedia and it's not under your control as a rabbi, in fact looks like you just learned something you never knew, even as a rabbi. IZAK (talk) 08:34, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

text: What does Chabad have to do with this? Stop poisoning the well. Debresser (talk) 10:02, 20 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Anyway, those links give only a few hundred results (if you remove the words "Brooklyn NY", which should never have been added to a Google search). Which is in itslef no prove of notability yet. As you say yourself "famous in the Litvish yeshiva communities of Brooklyn", which sounds mostly like "famous among collectioners of Limosine wheelcaps from before WWII"... Doesn't start to compare with Shmuel Wosner who is know in all of the Hareidi world, or Moshe Landau the chief rabbi of Bnei Brak, and whose hechsher is known around the world. Debresser (talk) 13:37, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, if your arguments find consensus, I have no problem with that. Just keep the word "Chabad" out off them. Debresser (talk) 06:38, 21 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree with Izak's point that if it is proven that a rabbi has sufficiently wide acceptance, he may qualify as a posek. I vehemently oppose his repeated and even incorrigible violation of NPA and AGF in turning every disagreement, no matter how unrelated to Chabad, into a forum to voice his anti-Chabad POV against fellow editors. Yehoishophot Oliver (talk) 18:52, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

text: I have a simple word of advice for YOU--stop violating NPA, AGF, NOTBATTLEGROUND and NOTSOAPBOX by using talk page after talk page to promote your anti-Chabad POV with no relevance to the topic at hand! Yehoishophot Oliver (talk) 18:41, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I also want to add again that I do NOT agree with Winchester's edits on this matter at all. So much for the anti-Chabad POV conspiracy theories. I DO welcome civilized discussion on the topic without violation of NPA and AGF. Yehoishophot Oliver (talk) 18:44, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well at least you agree with me and prove my point with the abominable way User  is carrying on right now. I am always open to reason. You make a big error when you falsely accuse me of "anti-Chabad POV conspiracy theories" because (a) it's not a "theory", and (b) I am not "anti-Chabad" and (c) the way it has worked over time is that pro-Chabad editors do work in tandem altho it has noticeably lessened since the case I opened ended. I do commend you for keeping your cool and acting in a responsible manner and not looking to ignite the situation further with needless WP:EDITWARRING. IZAK (talk) 10:31, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Poskim 

message: In addition I think it might me better to move the list of poskim to a separate article, List of Poskim e.g. Debresser (talk) 13:33, 20 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other ideas 

message: User:Debresser, I don't very much care, but "decider" is extremely poor English. The word is "decisor". Same goes for the rest.AddMore der Zweite (talk) 12:20, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: "decisor" changed. I really didn't like the rest of the changes and pipes, but are open for discussion. Debresser (talk) 10:15, 22 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening 

message: He had a Hebrew Wiki article; a hand-edited enhanced version of a translation of the Hebrew Wiki article is now part of English Wiki. Pi314m (talk) 17:13, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Formerly RedLinked - Ephraim Greenblatt - articles

message: I disagree with your statement that I should tag them instead of delete and deleting content does not do any good. Unsourced content basically has no status or value so deleting that does good to our readers as we keep information authentic and true. Burden and onus is on you to add the sources at the time you restore the questionable content. Restoring content which has been challenged without correcting the issue is against Wikipedia policies and if you do not stop this behavior, I will have no choice but to take you to ANI. Sheriff | ☎ 911 | 17:47, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Which is where I reported you just a few minutes ago. Debresser (talk) 19:04, 29 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sourcing 

message: Kvod Harav Debresser, I think that to every orthodok Rav should be added "Rabbi".--תנא קמא (talk) 16:50, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: See WP:HONORIFICS. Debresser (talk) 19:07, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Debresser, Can't see it. My filter says "אופסס.. הרובוט האוטומטי שלנו מצא פה דברים לא טובים." 
--תנא קמא (talk) 19:09, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  "In general, honorific prefixes – styles and honorifics in front of a name – in Wikipedia's own voice should not be included, but may be discussed in the article. In particular, this applies to: styles and honorifics derived from a title, position or activity, including The Most Noble, The Most Honourable, The Right Honourable, and The Honourable; styles and honorifics related to royalty, clergy, and sainthoods, such as His Holiness, The Reverend, Her Majesty, and The Venerable. Clergy should be named as described in Wikipedia:Naming conventions (clergy)." Debresser (talk) 21:02, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Debresser, I think its not refering to the title Rabbi. I was educated not to name a rav or any Ehrliche Yid without a title. But never mind, thanks. --תנא קמא (talk) 21:10, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WP:Honorifics#Honorific prefixes,  :"Where an honorific is so commonly attached to a name that the name is rarely found without it, it should be included." --תנא קמא (talk) 21:19, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Even though I too find it counter-intuitive, and I always want to put "rabbi" in front of names of rabbis, I know from long experience on Wikipedia that most editors hold that on Wikipedia the title "rabbi" should not be used. Debresser (talk) 21:20, 28 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Honoring Rabbanim 

message: The article makes no mention as to how one becomes or is appointed to be a Posek. Is this a self-appointed title, limited only by the recognition of the community? Or is there some formal process to become recognized as a Posek? Does this differ by branch of Judaism?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 45.72.238.247 (talk) 17:14, 19 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Becoming a Posek