Talk:Porsche/Archive 1

message: Reverted to previous edit: changing the pronunciation guide was IMO no improvement, and further information about Ferdinand Porsche belongs on HIS page. —Morven 21:35, 27 Jan 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It was an improvement as poor-sha is definitly wrong. I choosed pour-sha, but the first e in letter is better than the a in sha. 80.131.61.198 00:59, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation revert 

message: Should every reference of a model have a link to its page?  I.E. should several references to the 944 on the 924 page be hyperlinked to the 944 page?
:The Wiki style is to hyperlink just the first reference (and any explicit cross-references).
:Atlant 01:01, 18 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Model Linking 

message: I think there needs to be a "standard" infobox for the Porsche car model pages.  Please see the work I have done so far:  Porsche Carrera GT, Porsche Cayenne, Porsche Cayman, Porsche Boxster, Porsche 997, Porsche 996, Porsche 964, Porsche 930, Porsche 928, Porsche 968, Porsche 944, Porsche 924, Porsche 912, Porsche 959, Porsche 914.  They emulate the very uniform infoboxes in the Ferrari pages, e.g. Ferrari Enzo, Ferrari F50, Ferrari F40.  Now look at Porsche 993.  There seems to be some resistence against unifying Porsche 993 infobox with the others. Please see Talk:Porsche_993 for some more nitpicks. K3rb 01:53, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standard infobox 

message: I have created Porsche template. You can look at it here. Please feel free to make it a lot better before adding to Porsche pages. I think Porsche deserves it :)
:Very nice! Already did a small edit  -- something I have picked up from editing the main article. Cheers Jbetak 02:26, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Shall we put it on all articles? - ManiacK 12:36, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent work! This should definitely be disseminated throught all P articles. --K3rb 07:05, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Porsche template has been created 

message: The price of the Carrera GT was changed from EUR to (presumably, based on approximate exchange rate) USD in the recent past.  I've changed that back; being a supercar, the company isn't likely to fix the price in a currency that isn't their own, then get caught short when the exchange rates change.
If Porsche really did price the car in USD rather than EUR, the currency code "USD" should probably be used rather than "$" to indicate US dollars, rather than, i.e., Canadian dollars.  Patrick O'Leary 13:46, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Currency for Pricing Information 

message: Porsche is way better than bike. Please let me know what you think about this!
-Ez5698
HELL yah. I would buy a Carrera GT over two Ferraris any day, if I could afford either. Yes I would have to say that Porsche is my favorite car manufacturer
:Sorry, but they don't make the Carrera GT anymore, and you still gotta' respect some of Ferrari's achievements and history (even though Porsche is my favorite marque). Let's keep it a peaceful rivalry and be sure to know your enemy. You might want to visit Ferrari's article and learn more about them.--Porsche997SBS 01:38, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ferrari

message: Isn't the crest a copyrighted symbol that can't appear here?
:It's almost certainly fair use to use the car/company crest in an article specifically discussing the car/company. Plus, do you really think any corporation in their right minds would make a fuss about positive publicity?
:Atlant 14:23, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crest 

message: The article mentions Porsches current sales as something like 3000/month.
I believe (based on the latest half year report) that number is only the sales for north america, whereas the sales worldwide are more like 7000 cars/month.
:This has just been fixed. Thanks for posting your comment and keeping Wikipedia factually accurate!--Porsche997SBS 23:05, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Porsche sales correct? 

message: I can only see 3 links to clubs, surely there are hundreds available.  Should clubs be only entered at the top level, ie by Country? (No doubt each country club site will have links through to regional sites.) Or add all clubs known to editors until it starts to require better organisation.
[Rennsport.ca] Quebec & eastern Ontario, Canada
--Aus911 20:49, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Club Section 

message: The external links section should be trimmed per WP:EL and WP:NOT. Specifically, don't need to provide links to all the various sub-sections of the Porsche USA website. --ZimZalaBim (talk) 02:08, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: A ferrari f430 comes with a 2 year warranty and about 20k miles.. while all 911's have 4 years/50,000 miles.. how much does an oil change, or brake pad change cost on a Ferrari, and on a 911 on the other hand? i can tell you its A WHOLE LOT MORE on the ferrari.. and i believe Porsches are better build, and will probably break less than a Ferrari.. and when something breaks on a ferrari, you will be paying BIG BUCKS... so its not just the starting price one has to pay that makes a porsche better, its all these things.. maybe some might be worth mentioning in the article..
:This is an encyclopedia, and what you're suggesting isn't very encyclopedic and won't be mentioned in this article the way your suggesting it. Most people buy Ferraris because of what they are, Ferraris. Ferrari owner buys his car because these reasons: performance, prestige, "the image" (of owning one), and/or he really loves the brand (many of these reasons apply to Porsche owners too). Also, most Ferrari owners have money coming out their sleeves; they don't care about the sub-par warranty, high fuel consumption, or constant maintenance; neither do they care a car 65% their car's price can outperform it, out quality it, and out luxury it (I am refering to the F430 and the 911 Turbo). They have the perfect right to do this too; you may love a car for any reason you'd like, no matter why, its your opinion. Also, please refrain from titling sections with CAPS LOCK; by the way I love Porsche too, but here's a tip: if you want to be a serious editor, you should eliminate bias and arrogance while writing articles (also see the conversation above.--Porsche997SBS 23:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FERRARI VS PORSCHE ~ WARRANTY/MANTAINANCE/REPAIRS 

message: I not a big fan of these bargraph because they need annual update. May I suggest :
* to include the year somewhere,
* to provide a source file like an Excel spreadsheet if Excel was used to make update easier.
Aside of this I think its Lorraine-Dietrich not Lorraine.
Ericd 17:52, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bargraph

message: i included it in the category of companies founded in 1931. however, it wont appear there. any suggestions?--Tresckow 14:01, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  category companies founded... 

message: I took one of the Porsche images from the Japanese version of the Porsche article and have added to the American version of the Porsche 959 image. Professional Gamer 23:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added new image from Japanese version 

message: The article seems to have been suffering a lot of anonymous vandalism recently.  Anyone think it should be locked against anonymous editing? Stephen Hui 00:26, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No more than most other pages get on any random day.  I would have to say "no, not in my opinion".  ju66l3r 04:10, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Still have the same opinion?  Of the last fifteen edits, eleven (73%) have been vandalism or vandalism cleanup, and only four were legitimate.  This is a much higher vandalism rate than any of the fifty other pages on my watchlist. Stephen Hui 20:09, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Its fine now. It was all one sockpuppeter and I believe his IP got banned so we shouldn't get anymore vandalism here. -I?WSÐg? 22:17, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Block anonymous edits?

message: La Cie hard drive manufacturers claim their design is made by Porsche GmbH.  However there is no reference in this article to that.  Is this claim valid? Hassanfarooqi 17:44, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The company that they are referring to is Porsche Design Group, a wholly owned subsidiary of the vehicle manufacturer, but a separate entity nontheless. I'll add a disambiguation link to that effect. Pyrope 11:34, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Design of La Cie computer hard drive

message: Is this information really worthy of inclusion? It seems a bit North American-centric (i.e. why no sales figures for Europe, Asia, etc). Especially when you consider if needs to be updated every month. Just my 2c. -- DH85868993 10:19, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It might be interesting to include the percentages (over a period of a year or two) of NA vs Europe vs others, but we certainly don't need a monthly update of only NA. --Spyder_Monkey (Talk) 23:05, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: North American sales charts

message: The plant in Bratislava has nothing to do with Skoda - it's built and owned by Volkswagen. Skoda doesn't have any plants in Slovakia, although it is also owned by Volkswagen. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 192.6.59.74 (talk) 13:54, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Incorrect plant name

message: "Ferrari, on the other hand, competes more directly with firms such as Lamborghini, Bugatti, TVR and Aston Martin."
A Ferrari could not be considered a competitor to TVR.  The most expensive TVR on sale at the moment costs c. £60000, Where as all Ferrari's cost well over £100000 in the UK. Ref: - [www.carpages.co.uk]
Nice as TVRs are, they're not in the same league.  So, I'm gonna delete TVR from the Ferrari competitors sentance.  Feel free to delete this edit, but you know I'm right. --86.130.130.18 23:17, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why so confrontational?!?  Stephen Hui 02:37, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He may be confrontational, but he is right on that one. Squash Racket 17:36, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree as well, but being confrontational didn't make him any more right. Stephen Hui 23:34, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that's also true, just noticed the text is modified anyway, so we can move on. Squash Racket 05:00, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: TVR has gone out of business. A TVR is better compared to a Duesenberg, also out of business.209.29.82.64 10:50, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone forgot to tell TVR that they've gone out of business; unaware of this fact, they continue to build and sell cars.  Stephen Hui 13:59, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Competitors

message: I brought this up on a previous discussion page and it was ignored. The green 911 labelled as a "930" on this page is NOT a 930, it's a 964 Turbo, which was a generation newer than the 930, which Porsche discontinued in 1989. Either that or it's a 930 with a 964 body on it, in which case it still shouldn't be labelled as a 930 since it isn't really an example of a "proper" 930 with the original G-Series body. IS SOMEONE GOING TO FIX IT THIS TIME?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.134.172.23 (talk) 01:50, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture is not of a 930

message: Did Porsche buy a controlling stake in VW? Geoman888 (talk) 13:23, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Volkswagen

message: Porsche also has a huge fanboy following, rivaled only by that of Ferrari with their all red wardrobes. These people will often claim such things as "PORSCHE'S ARE THE ULTIMATE RACING CARS" and masturbate furiously to that belief, often finishing on their own faces and cleaning up with a genuine Porsche shirt. What these window licking retards don't grasp is that making a claim such as this is very subjective as there are so many different types of racing. Is Porsche #1 in a series such as the Porsche Supercup? You bet they are. Yet how about in spec Miata? Haha touche! I could go on and on, but fact is that there is no ultimate race car or brand. Many are very good, this includes Porsche. This is a fact, then again many people with interior neons do not concern themselves with facts.
Is this appropiate for Wikipedia? I think this is vandalism, and therefore it should be deleted from the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.212.122.81 (talk) 20:17, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Auto racing section vandalised

message: Having this section is a useful idea, but it doesn't explain the right way to pronounce it. It just gives all the wrong ways. It also seems to contradict its own source. The source points out that since it is a family name, it must be pronounced as the family would pronounce it, "PORSH-uh". But the article says "PORSH-eh [as a two syllable word]" and "porsh-uh" are both incorrect. 
They do both agree that "porsh [as one syllable]" is incorrect.
The source also supplies an mp3 of several german pronunciations of german words used in english. Porsche is included, so is there any way we could use that part of the mp3 in the article? 99.247.211.44 (talk) 03:10, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Despite of having the section "Pronounciation", right at the beginning of the article it is stated that Porsche is pronounced /por-sh/. I'm no expert, but isn't this pronounciation that which is wrong, with the silent "e"? Also, the section "Pronounciation" should mention that pronounciation /por-sha/ which is also widely used, e.g. by Jeremy Clarkson of Top Gear, is incorrect as well. 141.35.141.190 (talk) 09:48, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: Some plans have been announced today. None of these plans have been put into practice yet, and the plans may still change in the near future. Please do not edit the article based on your predictions of what will happen. Wikipedia is not a crystal ball... By the way, I would have no problem with mentioning these new VW plans, as long as they're treated as plans, not as things that have already happened. 217.149.210.16 (talk) 20:55, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Stick to the facts, please

message: For the time being Porsche Automobil Holding SE own more than 50% of the shares of the Volkswagen Group.  This is discussed in more detail at Talk:Automotive industry#Porsche / Volkswagen naming. -- de Facto (talk). 13:56, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: DavGreg, please pay attention to the dates of post at the end of every comment on this page.  You are responding to a comment made in 2009.  Your info, a news dated July 2012, is already outdated.  Currently Porsche 'SE' owns over 50% of Volkswagen AG, and Volkswagen AG owns 100% of Porsche 'AG'.  Please read the article page.  This is the page for discussion on Porsche article. Yiba (talk | contribs) 02:24, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Porsche / Volkswagen relationship

message: "... is responsible and manufacturer of ..." is ungrammatical. I'd fix it but I'm not sure what it is trying to say. The obvious guess is " ... is responsible for the manufacture of ...", but it's already been stated that Porsche SE is the "manufacturer" of the cars, so it does not appear to make sense to then say that Porsche SG is the manufacturer.
This passage needs fixing in such a way as makes clear the distinction between SE and AG.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.244.109 (talk) 23:41, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Garbled sentence in lead

message: * in Overview: The company was founded as Dr. Ing. h. c. F. Porsche GmbH in 1931 by...
* in History: Ferdinand Porsche founded the company called "Dr. Ing. h. c. F. Porsche GmbH" in 1930
* so what? -- Hartmann Schedel  Prost  10:50, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: 25 April 1931 is the correct date. I will change it. Bjmullan (talk) 11:16, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: thank you, also for the fast reaction -- Hartmann Schedel  Prost  11:24, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founding-Date 

message: 'The latest model line, the four-door Panamera saloon (sedan), was launched on Monday, 20 April 2009.'
Isn't the Panamera a hatchback??--North wiki (talk) 15:01, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Letdorf (talk) 11:48, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Look at the citations.  They generally refer to the Panamera as a sedan/saloon (alternatively, four-door coupe or GT).  No reference that I saw uses the term hatchback.  Stick with the references. Alanraywiki (talk) 15:08, 9 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Panamera - a sedan? 

message: Hi. Louise Piëch is listed as a owner. But she died 11 years ago. She had four children, one called Louise, but surely it does not refer to her, would it? It says Louise Piëch and Porsche family. Rui Gabriel Correia (talk) 16:54, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Louise Piëch is dead 

message: I have read that as a security against theft, a Porsche is digitaly locked to 30kph when it leaves factory and that it need to be unlocked as it is taken in use. 83.254.79.110 (talk) 20:53, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anti theft 

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message: The article says Volkswagen is a subsidiary of Porsche. But in the Volkswagen article it says Porsche is a subsidiary of Volkswagen! Who owns who? 
--And93hil (talk) 22:25, 4 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there is some merit in removing the parent/holding company from the actual car marque, and this article confuses the issue quite considerably at the moment. Not a dissimilar issue with Mercedes-Benz as a marque and Daimler AG as the company. <B>Warren</B> (talk) 11:09, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

text: I agree with you completely that the situation needs to be clarified, but it can be done better than the way you did it before. I'm not sure however that there needs to be more than one article. There is a very clear summary on this page. --Biker Biker (talk) 14:21, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to do it better. The Porsche SE page you reference is correct and shows how this article has been incorrect since 1st August. I believe it would be correct for the large amount of history and information relating to the Holding Company to be off in its own article, as that is really nothing to do with the sports car maker. It is quite similar to how Damiler and Mercedes-Benz have separate articles, as mentioned above. --Eight.valve (talk) 14:38, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I have just viewed the German Wikipedia pages, they further demonstrate the merit in having two separate articles and also the urgent need to correct the English language Porsche article. See the German pages: Porsche Automobil Holding SE and Porsche AG --Eight.valve (talk) 18:44, 1 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parent of Volkswagen? 

message: Per WP:BRD I just reverted the move of the common name Porsche to Porsche Automobile Holding SE. A controversial move like this needs further discussion. --Biker Biker (talk) 15:56, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the article title Porsche is preferable to the official name per WP:COMMONNAME. 72Dino (talk) 16:04, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. And if it is to be renamed to anything it should be to a correctly spelled version of the name. --Biker Biker (talk) 16:07, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, especially since this page mainly deals with Porsche AG, not the holding company. Neither do I expect most people searching "Porsche" want the holding company.  TREKphiler any time you're ready, Uhura  17:47, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree, and the editor who moved it seems to have ignored the points made in the previous Talk section... <B>Warren</B> (talk) 17:50, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversial move reverted 

message: This is an article about the company called Porsche, not the man called Porsche. Nazi insignia are completely out of place here. In addition, this incident has no encyclopedic significance for the company. This seems to be a man-on-a-mission thing. --Lukati (talk) 12:37, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Nazi past controversy at Porsche's birthplace

message: ...produce 150000 cars in one year? Wow, very assiduous.
217.225.248.112 (talk) 23:07, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: They must use a lot of robots. Actually, per page 56 of their annual report, 35 is the correct number of employees for the holding company. Perhaps the workforce is included under Volkswagen Group which has 572,800 employees (page 68 of annual report.) Bahooka (talk) 23:16, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yet another reason to split off the holding company to its own article. - BilCat (talk) 00:13, 21 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only 35 employees... 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Porsche (disambiguation) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 15:59, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: 2014 sales numbers here: http://press.porsche.com/news/release.php?id=897
184.2.141.3 (talk) 15:09, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Jamietw (talk) 16:29, 23 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 23 April 2015 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: just a small tip, source number 8 does not work any more  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.162.174.146 (talk) 15:07, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources that do not work 

message: Yo whats happenin!!!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.75.38.21 (talk) 10:32, 20 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 20 January 2016 

message: please add the base prices for models 
718 Cayman 
$ 55,300.00
718 Boxster
$ 57,400.00
911 
$ 91,100.00
Panamera
$ 85,000.00
Macan
$ 47,800.00
Cayenne
$ 60,600.00
per http://www.porsche.com/usa/models/ Porschefan30093 (talk) 10:43, 8 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Information would not be encyclopedic, as these change with time. RickinBaltimore (talk) 13:28, 25 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 8 April 2017 

message: The list of consumer models is a confusing mess, because it mixes model names and Porsche type numbers. Since that separate type number page exists, this list should logically be a list by model name, perhaps with type numbers listed for each model.  For instance, there are entries for 911 as a model, plus for at least five of the type numbers of the 911 model (964, 993, 996, 997, 991), but no entry for the Porsche 911 (classic) and only one entry for all types of the Boxster model. brian|bp 04:54, 21 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Consumer model" list 

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replies: text: Done —72 talk  00:57, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 June 2017 

message: Error in computation of % increase in number of units delivered in 2013 over 2012. Currently reads 17%, should be 21%. 69.243.101.50 (talk) 20:39, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. WP:CALC. —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:00, 14 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 June 2017 

message: in the motorsport section the total number of Le Mans wins needs updating to 19 (as of 18 june 2017) Amoffat20 (talk) 22:11, 18 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Eggishorn (talk) (contrib) 15:18, 19 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 18 June 2017 

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message: In the Relationship with Volkswagen section USA is used and should be changed to comply with MOS:NOTUSA. 96.54.57.109 (talk) 10:42, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Minor edit only. —KuyaBriBriTalk 14:12, 25 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 October 2017