Talk:Splice (film)

message: I found a link to some pictures. http://www.aintitcool.com/node/34683 
Sohzq (talk) 07:38, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Could someone please fix the plot section up?
It's extremely badly grammaticized and there are colons instead of quotes (as well as quoting lines from the movie too much as well). 
It also feels that the author just got tired half way through and then rushed it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Woodledoodledoodle (talk • contribs) 19:45, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  yes, like this one:
"The couple loses Dren progressively more and more control over them."
huh?
4.249.63.90 (talk) 21:00, 23 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot

message: IMO the sentence (Clive) but remains ambiguous in whether he tried to save Dren or kill her should not be part of WP, because it interprets the movie, instead of describing it (e.g. for me his (Clive's) intentions seem to be clear - but I do not have the only truth..) Or at least rework it a bit in the direction so that not Clive wasnt ambifuous, but the movie was so or to the viewer it seemed so. Sorry I wont do it myself - my knowledge of the English language is too bad. Regards. --84.115.204.179 (talk) 00:22, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  draining part 

message: Anyone know how films like this should be categorized, I tried categorizing it as Horror, Sci-Fi, Thriller as listed on IMDB here but that was removed in favor of categorizing it as advertised (unsourced). Is there a style guide entry on it? Cat-five - talk 03:19, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: In general, IMDb should not be used as a source as it's just a voted in genre by it's users. I would wait for advertisers and reviewers and other studies to be brought in before these cats are added. It's also just a good idea to keep it simple. a three-word description for genre is a a bit too many adjectives. There is no written rule but just to get good writing style put in, I'd leave it as one or two genres for now. Cheers! Andrzejbanas (talk) 03:36, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough and that makes sense, I agree that three adjective descriptions are a bit much but if a movie spans 3 genres then there's really no choice but we won't really know until reviewers start watching and categorizing the movie. Cat-five - talk 16:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories 

message: I just deleted some "opinions" in the reception section from unreliable sources, such as IMDB comments. Plus there's also an error in Film Stage, somebody wrote FILm Stage.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.219.246.30 (talk) 17:31, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No.  It was completed and first released on the film festival circuit in 2009.  It just wasn't purchased for wide distribution until after 2010. See the release section of the article for details, and read my Production Information note below. - Jonathon A H (talk) 19:58, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception 

message: A couple of notes in reference to the studios, country of origin and release date... Quoting from the film infobox: 
*studio - Insert the company that produced the film. Separate multiple entries with a line break (). In addition, link each company to its appropriate article if possible.
By this definition, Dark Castle Entertainment should not be listed as a production studio.  They had no involvement with the film until after it was complete.  They purchased distribution rights after the film had been completed and released on the festival circuit.
*country - Insert the home country or countries of the film's main production companies. Do not use flag icons, as this places an unnecessary emphasis on nationality; see MOS:FLAG for a detailed rationale. Do not link to Cinema of XXXX; see WP:EGG.
As above, there were no American studios involved with the production of the film, and so the US should not be listed as a country of origin.
*released - Insert only the most relevant release date(s) of the film. If multiple entries are required, separate with line breaks (). Use  for the earliest. See #Release dates for additional guidelines. And quoting #Release dates: Release dates should therefore be restricted to the film's earliest release, whether it was at a film festival or a public release, and the release date(s) in the country or countries that produced the film, excluding sneak previews or screenings.
By this definition, it's a 2009 film as it was first shown at a film festival in 2009. -Jonathon A H (talk) 21:46, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production information 

message: ...is "Nicoli," as found on the IMDB page and reviews of the movie, yet in the article it's listed as "Natali." It looks like it was fixed, but then reverted. Since the article is protected, will someone please fix it? 216.79.28.42 (talk) 14:20, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. - Jonathon A H (talk) 15:30, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Awesome, thanks. 216.79.28.42 (talk) 15:25, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Clive's last name

message: Why is the release date 2009? It premiered in 2009, but it wasn't released in theaters until 2010. If this is fine than leave it but to me it seems "release date", means the date it was availbible for everyone to go to a theater and see, not just the people at the film festival. 69.251.92.84 (talk) 17:26, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: See the Production information section above for the definition of release date.  It doesn't matter if it was at a festival/limited release, or a wide release - a release is a release.  It was completed and first available to the public in 2009, so it's a 2009 film. Technically, most film festivals are open to the public, so 'anyone' can go see it.  Furthermore, if we use the broad statement 'for everyone can go to a theatre and see', then films which are only released on the festival circuit, go straight to DVD, or are only released overseas would never be 'released'. - Jonathon A H (talk) 17:36, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: However, I'm not seeing in this article where or when the film was released in 2009, just that it was. -- Erroneuz1 (talk) 16:51, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Er, you may want to check again?  It's mentioned twice.  Once in the infobox under, funnily enough, 'release date(s)', and again under the Release section.  Quoting the release section: The film premiered on October 6, 2009 at Sitges Film Festival. Here's the Sitges Film Festival website for Splice for date confirmation: http://sitgesfilmfestival.com/eng/film/?id=10000999  - Jonathon A H (talk) 20:14, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  2009? 

message: Dren is an amphibious, winged, omnivorous, human/animal hybrid with a toxic stinger.
Superstar genetic engineers Clive Nicoli (Adrien Brody) and Elsa Kast (Sarah Polley) achieve fame by successfully splicing together the DNA of different animals, to create incredible new hybrid animals. They dream of isolating certain dna from their created hybrids to use in finding a cure for human diseases such as Parkinsons, Alzheimer's and certain Cancers.  In order to do this and further develop their research they must begin mixing both human and animal DNA in order to create a more suitable hybrid.  Proposing this to the pharmaceutical company that funds their research for their company NERD. The two push, insisting it will revolutionize science and medicine.  However the company forbids it, insisting that Clive and Elsa continue to isolate the protiens in their already existing splices.  The company does not want to take the risk and push bounderies, and are only intent on making a guarenteed profit. Reluctantly, Clide and Elsa agree, but secretly conduct their own experiments in the pursuit of even greater scientific discovery. 
Blending human DNA into a creation, they ignore their society's ethical and legal boundaries as well as the pharmaceutical companies wishes.
They are successful, and Elisa takes the specimin to the dismay of Clide, beginning the imbeding process into an artificial womb.  Clide, does not want to diasapoint Elisa and goes through with it.  Through the developing process within the womb the creature is unstable.  Elisa and Clide check the womb daily, while continuing to isolate the protien from the already spliced creatures.  Clide's brother helps as he is part of the team of scientists, but notices the couples unusual behaviour.  We learn that Clide wants to have children with Elisa, who does not share the same interest.  The womb delivers the creature early, due to the creatures rapid growth it is unable to substane it.  They have to do this manually as there is too much pressure in the device which will kill the creature inside.  After Elisa's arm gets pulled into the womb when she tries to deliver, Clide has to break the glass enclosing it and cut the womb.  The creature spues out as Elisa goes into a chemical shock, which only stops when Clide administers a needle into her thigh.  Clide then traps the creature.  That night, Clide, believing the creature might be in pain because it is not finished developing, wishes to kill it.  Elisa is unagreeable until they check on it the next day and believe it is dead.  When Clide leaves the room to get a waste bag, Elisa realizes the creature broke out of the container from a cacoon like pouch and is loose in the lab.
The creature, looking much like a mole, is running around the lab.  Clide wants to gas the room and kill it, but Elisa removes her mask and attempts to communicate with the creature.
The creature imprints on her, much to the dismay of Clide, who pulls her out of the room.  They realize through dianostics that the creature is developing at a rapid rate, and that it will die within weeks.  Because of this they will have the oppertunity to observe it's entire life and be able to study it throughly.  The two agree, and begin taking care of the creature.
Elisa becomes attached to the creature as it develops, insisting it be called Dren.  She names it this after it points to a shirt she is wearing with the companies logo on it and spells the word out with scrabble blocks that she reads backwards.
Clide, believing the experiement has gone too far, attempts to drown the creature when they are treating it for a fever.  Through this they learn Dren has amphipious lungs, inabling her to breath underwater.  Clide's brother discovers Dren after following his brother, but agrees to keep the secret.  Developing into what appears to be almost a female human hybride, she exceeds their wildest dreams, as she begins to grow and learn at an accelerated rate.  
As their company is being renovated, the risk of Dren being discovered increases.  They decide to move Dren to Elsa's diseased mother's farm.  Dren adjusts, but her incresingly want for freedom becomes apparent.  Meanwhile the pharmisutical company insists the two appear at an investors presentation.  There they showcase their original splices.  After the splices kill each other, and the company is pressured, they threaten to shut down NERD unless the protien is found within weeks.  When asked what went wrong, Clide, through studying the odtopsies of the animals, realizes that one of the two splices had changed gender, thus causing a male to male battle.  
Clide and Elisa start to take shifts, one appearing at work while the other stays with Dren.  This causes suspicion within the company, as they are both known work-a-holics.  One night, when both manage to escape from work, Elisa and Clide discover that Dren has wings.  They discover this when she attempts to escape by jumping through the barns skylight.  On the roof, she shows her wings and attempts to fly away, only stopped when they tell her that they love her.  Dren continues to show she wishes freedom by keeping a stray cat that wanders into the barn as her pet.  Elisa finds out, and takes the cat, fearful that Dren will become sick.  Dren, does not understand and becomes upset.  Elisa, eventually becomes upset, and gives in, only to see Dren stab the cat dead with her toxic stinger (much like a scorpion).  Elisa, hits Dren, who then jumps ontop of her, threatening her with the stinger as well, but instead grabs the barn's keys from the necklace on Elisa's neck.  Dren, standing outside of the bar, is hit in the head with a shovel by the enraged Elisa who then straps her onto a plank and cuts off her stinger.  Clide, walking in on this, is outraged by what she has done.  Elisa explains that she is dangerous, and smay have the protien they need; thus the act was neccisary.  Clide, comforts Dren with music and teaches her how to dance.  As he does so he recognizes Elisa in her and discovers that Elisa used her own DNA to create the creature.  Angered by the thought, he leaves the farm.  Confronting Elisa, the two realize they have gone too far.  Clide then returns to the farm as Elisa continues with the protien.  There he and Dren have sex.  Elisa, discovering the protien, comes back to witness the act.  The two become further confused with what they have done and fight.  When returning to the barn, they realize Dren is dying.  When she dies, they burry her behind the barn.  As they finish, a car pulls in, revealing Clides brother and a member from the pharmisutical company which was their supervisor.  He demands to see Dren, but the two insist she is dead.  As they are about to unburry her, a creature swoops down and grabs the supervisor.  Throwing him into a tree, the creature rests ontop of the bar, revealing that it is Dren and she has become vicious.  She swoops down and carries off Clides brother.  Clide runs after her, with Elisa in toe insisting that his brother is dead.  Clide, drops his flashlight in a bog within the woods, and reaches out to pick it up  only to be pulled in by Dren.  Clide, is thrown back a shore, as Dren emerges from the water.  Revealing that she has changed gender, she eyes ELisa.  Elisa runs only to be thrown to the ground by Dren.  Dren, ripps off Elisa's pants, and when asked by Elisa what she/he wants, replies, 'Inside.'  She rapes Elisa and is only stopped when Clide stabs it in the middle with a stick.  Pulling the stick out, Dren throws Clide aside as Elisa puts her pants back on.  Dren is about to kill Clide when Elisa hits Dren to the ground with a stick.  Holding a rock in her hand, Elisa is about to hit Dren in the head, when she looks up at her.  Unable to kill her creation, she pauses, giving Dren enough time to stab Clide in the heart with her stinger, killing him.  Elisa hits Dren in the head with the rock.  Ending the battle.  The screen goes black, and returns to a conversation between the head of the pharmisutical company and Elisa.  The two are speaking about the Dren experiment and Elisa is being payed hansomly for going through with 'it'.  When she stands up we find that Elisa is heavily pregnant.  The movie ends with the pharmisutical woman telling her that she can have it terminated and they'd understand, and with her replying, 'What's the worst that can happen.'
24.213.85.195 (talk) 19:22, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Too long, too monolithic (24.213.85.195 needs a lesson in forming proper paragraphs), too anachronistic (why is Dren being described in the first sentence before the character's backstory has been presented?), very poor spelling, and TOO LONG at over 1400 words.  I just chopped the plot already in the article down to less than 600 words.  It may not be elegant, but it gets the idea across. 12.233.147.42 (talk) 01:33, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 24.213.85.195, 14 June 2010 

message: Last line from the original plot summary (which seems somewhat flawed but adequate). This was not stated film, at least not explicitly.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.251.143.117 (talk) 12:15, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: removed: ' and will give custody to the corporation'

message: Someone had written that the baby may have been fathered by (male) Dren or Clive. This statement was not in the film and shouldn't be in the article. Viewers are left to infer that Elsa's pregnancy resulted from the rape: if her forthcoming offspring had two human parents, N.E.R.D. would have no interest in it. It's implied that the company is paying Elsa for the right to use the creature for research--but the film doesn't say this, either. Cognita (talk) 20:03, 19 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed statement in last paragraph of Plot section 

message: The music Clive and Dren are dancing to is a very thinly disguised version of Cole Porters "Begin the Beguine" Begin_the_Beguine#Artie_Shaw_version but I didn't find anything like that in the credits at the end of the movie. Does anybody know under what name the song is listed, if at all? Ralf Muschall (talk) 21:35, 17 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, not a brilliant reworking of Cole Porter but an uncomfortable anagram of Artie Shaw's masterpiece. From the end credits, original music was composed by Cyrille Aufort and performed by the London Philharmonia Orchestra at Angel Studios, also tunes by named groups and soloists: "Frenchy's", "Zeppelin Interpolation", "Hail Destroyer, "The 26 Letters", "Hot Singh", "One Twist Too Much", "Thinking in Circles", "Love Can't Hide", "Night and Dren". Of these, probably the best known composer is Dylan Heming, who co-wrote "Thinking in Circles" and "Night and Dren". As you say, no mention of Porter or  Shaw, but it sounded to me like a mash-up.Doug butler (talk) 20:05, 22 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dance music