Talk:Raphael Lemkin

message: He died at 59. That seems rather young. Please explain why. Redwolf24 9 July 2005 00:16 (UTC)
::Explained. Heart attack. Halibutt 21:39, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Why only seven people attented his funeral?DarkGhost89 12:09, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps it might have something to do with the fact that his broader definition of genocide had not found favour with the 'powers that be'. One has to read between the lines as to why the UN Convention on Genocide limited its definition to 'physical' acts and ignored the more insidious 'psychological' techniques, which Lemkin quite rightly identified.  Not many of the signatories to the Convention would have escaped the 'psychological' net either then, or now! -- TGG 13:09, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  death 

message: Corrected some spelling. (IchBin 06:52, 1 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  other 

message: The beginning of the World War II section currently states During the Polish Defensive War of 1939 Lemkin joined the Polish Army and defended Warsaw during the siege of that city, where he was injured by a bullet to the hip, afterward evading capture by the Germans.  I'm in the middle of "A Problem from Hell" and it mentions nothing about actual fighting or an injury and Lemkin appears do nothing but fleeing.  Can someone source this information? Thanks, BT 15:34, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  injury in defense of Warsaw 

message: Preserving this deleted material -- surely there must be a record of it somewhere, as a Wikipedia editor is unlikely to have made it up. Should be re-added when sourced:
::For his work on international law and the prevention of war crimes, Lemkin was nominated for the Nobel Peace Prize in 1950, 1951, 1952, 1955, 1956, 1958 and 1959. Although he was never awarded the Nobel Prize, he did receive a number of other awards,
Dybryd 01:08, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nobel nominations

message: Wouldn't his first name by birth be Rafał?  Did he adopt Rafael or Raphael later in life, or is "Raphael" simply an Anglicization of his real name?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.57.121.14 (talk) 19:10, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the name that he is most commonly referred to in English. There is mention during the first section that he was born Rafal.--Labattblueboy (talk) 12:50, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: Somebody might like to mention the following article since, among other things, it sheds some light on his being credited with coining the term "genocide". I'll refrain from doing it myself since I don't have time to read all thirty pages. --Adoniscik(t, c) 23:52, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Lemkin wasn't the first person to coin the word Genocide, it had been around since 1829. He can be considered the first person to introduce it into every day vocabulary. It can be found in the 'The Encyclopedia Americana: Volume 30' (1829) at this link: http://books.google.com/books?id=m4cOAAAAMAAJ&q=%22genocide%22&dq=%22genocide%22&hl=en&ei=AEUNTe2HNYGUvAOd0oTwDQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CDUQ6AEwAg --Delos (talk) 23:40, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Lemkin's scholarship on genocide

message: I removed the claim that he studied Armenian Genocide.
In the citation here it says
"As a teen, Lemkin learned through news accounts that the Turkish government was slaughtering its Christian Armenian citizens".
I am just going to tell you this falt out.  Armainian genocide was evil and Lemkin did not study it.  He was all about the turkish genocide.  GOd noby does there research anymore.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.240.148.19 (talk) 16:22, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, but what.  Lemkins introduction to the Armenian genocide began in 1921 while at student in Lwow and only progressed from there. I suggest reading Chapter 7 (Raphael Lemkin and the Armenian Genocide) of "Looking backward, moving forward: confronting the Armenian Genocide", it might provide you with some perspective.--Labattblueboy (talk) 10:27, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Studied armenian genocide 

message: The article claims that Lemkin coined the word genocide in 1943, but it seems to appear in print sources earlier than that (if the Google Book dates are accurate): 1936, 1941. Doremo (talk) 10:20, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the "fact" tag because the Google Book dates for the publications appear to be inaccurate. Doremo (talk) 10:25, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: CNN says 1944 http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/europe/11/13/sbm.lemkin.profile/index.html  Liam987(talk) 15:28, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Bruce Jenkins is more reliable than CNN.·maunus · snunɐɯ· 15:55, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coinage 

message: um i understood that stopped being a thing in like 1800..? surely it would be Russian Poland or whatever?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.182.40.90 (talk) 15:10, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed this reference and replaced it with the one contemporary to his birth. ChristineBushMV (talk) 21:05, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't want to split hair here but would it not be the Vilna Governorate, the Lithuania-Grodno Governorate  did not exist at the time of Lemkin's birth.--Labattblueboy (talk) 22:59, 11 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: No, we want to get this right and it isn't (yet). The timeline in the article about Volkovysk#Russian_Empire is what I used to make my last change, but it isn't very clear. I'll change it to Vilna Governorate. ChristineBushMV (talk) 00:59, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm Ok that we leave it as is until we can be certain we have it right. Imperial Russian administration is not my forte and I'd rather we have it right and this element remain stable.--Labattblueboy (talk) 01:09, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Born in the Polish Lithuanian commonwealth? 

message: "Lemkin was born Rafał Lemkin in the village of Bezwodne during a period when it was part of the Vilna Governorate of the Russian Empire, now in the Vawkavysk district of Belarus. Not much is known of Lemkin's early life. He grew up in a Jewish family and was one of three children born to Joseph and Bella (Pomerantz) Lemkin. His father was a farmer and his mother a highly intellectual woman who was a painter, linguist, and philosophy student with a large collection of books on literature and history." The wording of this separates his parents from the family "he grew up with", leaving open the possibility that he grew up with a different family, which is probably not what the writer intended. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.135.3 (talk) 17:26, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: "He grew up in a Jewish family and was one of three children born to Joseph and Bella (Pomerantz) Lemkin" - I think this makes it clear that he was not adopted (as these people were Jewish). There is really no room for interpretation here. --92slim (talk) 17:45, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was he adopted? 

message: Genocide#Etymology mentions:
:Lemkin defined genocide as follows:
::Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be the disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups.
A reference is not listed directly aside this so I am not sure where it was written.
It does mention in the preceding paragraph:
:Raphael Lemkin, in his work Axis Rule in Occupied Europe (1944), or possibly in 1943, coined the term "genocide" by combining Greek genos (γένος), "race, people" and Latin cīdere "to kill".
This led me to wonder if the quote was from "Axis Rule", but I am not sure. Could it have come from a later work where he elaborated on the term he introduced in Axis Rule? Ranze (talk) 02:28, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Quote ID

message: Just an enquiry to those that know better. Lemkin was Jewish, he was born in Imperial Russia so this doesn't make him Belarus-born in anything other than the modern day sense. Then you have this double-link to Belarus and Russia coupled with the notion that Lemkin was a Polish Jew which can be more confusing. In the first place, Poles, Belarussians and Russians are Slavic nations who are culturally and linguistically connected by a continuum. For one to be a Jew normally means that this is how he identifies ethnically regardless of whether he is a practising Jew. The language/dialect he or his parents will have spoken will have been that of the area they were from. As such, I cannot make the connection to Polish. --OJ (TALK) 10:42, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eastern European links 

message: Is this a term? It sounds really odd, especially encountering it in the lead. K.e.coffman (talk) 08:52, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It was the term employed in one of the sources and does appear tohave a notable amount of usage. However, I'm all ears for other suggestions as it's not a central content concern for me. It does seems appropriate to distinguish between ethnicity and nationality. His nationality seems a bit complicated (Imperial Russian, Belarusian Republic, Second Polish Republic and his "home" after leaving thearea becoming Soviet Union, Byelorussian SSR, German occupied, Byelorussian SSR again and lastly Republic of Belarus. Throw in the fact that he lived is Sweden and subsequently the United States and nationality becomes a distraction given I don't know whether he self identified himself in one way or another. All this to say it would bring me great pleasure if a final consensus was reached.--Labattblueboy (talk) 12:09, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polonized-Jewish descent 

message: the statement "During the Polish Defensive War of 1939 Lemkin joined the Polish Army and defended Warsaw during the siege of that city, where he was injured by a bullet to the hip. " was removed on 13 Feb 2017 as unreferenced.  Actually it was referenced (Paul R. Bartrop. Modern Genocide: The Definitive Resource and Document Collection. Vol. I.  ABC-CLIO. 2014. pp. 1301-1302 which refers to the event.  Philippe Sands does mention: "One Polish scholar claimed that he fought as a soldier in the Polish-Soviet war, and Lemkin himself once suggested he was wounded in 1920, as Marshal Piłsudski pushed Bolshevik forces out of eastern Poland." (Sands p. 149) but goes on to say that Lemkin does not mention the time in his memoirs and that he was expelled from a university around that time for falsely claiming that he had been in the Polish army.  This seems to justify the deletion.  --Joel Mc (talk) 11:28, 20 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  injury in defense of Warsaw (cont'd) 

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