Talk:Identity Crisis (DC Comics)

message: I find that this article could use some restructuring, as well as some additional sections to add depth to it. It seems to be quite simple, and superficial. There should be more themes/ideas addressed in this article that are relevant to the comic, such as history of the justice league, what an identity crisis is, and superhero identity. I believe that there should be a section about the author, Brad Meltzer, after “Publication history,” simply giving a brief background of Meltzer.  I also think that there should be a section about revenge and justice, seeing how this is a recurring theme throughout the comic. This section should also show how there is a blurred line between the two terms in general, and how it is applied in the comic itself. Another suggestion I have is to get rid of a couple sections; “Reception” and “Parody” don’t particularly pertain to what the article’s purpose is. Here are a few sources to support my suggestions for the article:
“Our Authors, Our Advocates.” American Libraries, vol. 41, no. 10, 2010, pp. 43–45. www.jstor.org/stable/25734695.
Elster, Jon. “Norms of Revenge.” Ethics, vol. 100, no. 4, 1990, pp. 862–885. www.jstor.org/stable/2381783.
Hart, H. L. A. “Justice.” Philosophy, vol. 28, no. 107, 1953, pp. 348–352. www.jstor.org/stable/3748149.
Amberadams (talk) 19:27, 18 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestions for the article

message: I made it a point not to read this article until after I had read "Identity Crisis," reasonably thinking I'd be safe from spoilers.  However this was prior to reading most of the Infinite Crisis storyline.
My point is, I don't think this article should include plot details revealed subsequently to "Identity Crisis."  Case in point:
        "Batman's eventual remembrance of the mindwipe led him to disassociate
    himself from the JLA and become increasingly suspicious of metahuman heroes
    (see Brother Eye)."
Anyway, I just wanted to get some feedback on this point before merrily deleting passages.
--Gaijinlaw 13:56, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  There's spoilers and then there's spoilers... 

message: Although it came from Entertainment Weekly, I'm removing the speculation that an upcoming animated movie is based on IdC, since it seemed like EW was speculating as well. If a lot object, I'm putting it here so it can be inserted back in. --- Rogsheng 16:29, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Other Media'' 

message: Warner Bros. is currently developing an animated movie that is speculated to be based on the Identity Crisis storyline.  The movie may launch both the potentially upcoming Green Arrow and Flash films.  
That's a few months old - it's actually New Frontier. --Charlesknight 20:49, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Appearances in other media

message: Anyone have any idea what the "analysis" by Scott King and the fantasybookreview review are being given such prominence> Neither source is particularly notable- it strikes me that the individual writers or their colleagues have stuck the links in for self-promotional interests. Surely the Publisher's Weekly review or discussion from other serious publications should be in these slots rather than what he have. 216.194.2.70 (talk) 04:56, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links section 

message: I'm outlining here the changes made to get the article on what is a great story up to encyclopedia standard. I'll outline in point form and explain:
Images - the second cover, while good, doesn't add anything and distorts the text. This is a no no. The cover in the SHB box says it all. The Jean Loring image is fine as it shows her (Joker-like) madness.
Lead - just that, a strong lead with no opinion or colloquial speak. There was a lot of that in the main text.
Publication history - where all the pertinent continuity mentions and related title mentions go. That said, without colloquial armchair lecturing in the wrong tense.
Plot -  most is still there, but in a more neutral tone without emotional terms and POV. Also added quite a few links on terms for laymen. Note the addition of out of universe terms that should precede a character's mention, such as "the assassin Deathstroke".
The "Cast of Characters" section has been pulled because it is simplistic; repetitive (all characters are linked, with a mention of their actions in the Plot - if there's no mention of a character's pivotal role in this series on their page then that needs to remedied) and not in keeping with Wiki-standards. We try to avoid lists as in comic terms it is fannish and again, these articles need to be encyclopedia standard.
The smaller sections such as Collected Editions etc just needed a slight tidy up. Nothing major.
Comments welcome. Asgardian (talk) 04:53, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Since there are no comments, have retained Wiki-correct version as everything stated above is valid. Summaries need to be tight, with sources, no POV, lists or repetition. Thank you. Asgardian (talk) 01:20, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tidy Up 

message: The reason given for keeping it is that it shows the popularity of the Identity Crisis title. Having the mention of the Ambush Bug parody does that, but describing it? Interest in the Identity Crisis title doesn't convey an interest in the minutia of the Ambush Bug title. Further, it explains in detail plot points that aren't explained in context of Identity Crisis until the next section, so the joke makes no sense to someone coming to this article who doesn't already know the information in the article.
Moving this whole thing to a later section of its own would be highly appropriate.
I am not going to get into reversions over this, and I think you have done a great job working this article Asgardian, but please seriously consider shortening this to a mention or moving it back. It really reads strangely here.
Judasblue (talk) 21:30, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll do what was done over at Marvel Zombies, and stick the "alternate" story in a small section at the bottom. Asgardian (talk) 03:44, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  The information reads great there. Thanks again for your work on this, A. Judasblue (talk) 19:37, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't see why the parody needs to be mentioned at all. Almost everything gets parodied by something or the other. Imagine if we mentioned every time MAD did a spoof of something. SonOfPlisskin (talk) 12:57, 31 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Do we actually need a description of the Ambush Bug parody at the top?

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message: I added information to the section titled "revenge vs. justice" seeing as how it was lacking valuable information. Amberadams (talk) 17:12, 6 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Editing Revenge vs. Justice

message: I added more information to this section to give it more depth.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Amberadams (talk • contribs) 23:18, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Identity Crisis within the text and Characters

message: Overall, I thought the page was well-thought out. It included several outside sources and made various analytical topic sections. I thought it was evident the group knew what they were talking about and if I am speaking honestly, I used this to help myself for our Literary Analysis Paper. The page included a valuable, stretched plot summary that was eloquently written and made it easy to comprehend what happened in the story. I personally enjoyed the section entitles "What is an Identity Crisis?". I found this section be quite obvious to write in yet most people including myself would not have thought of to add in. This can help any reader who just so happens to travel onto this page better understand what the comic is truly about. I thought it added a great deal of knowledge to the page that otherwise would have been ignored. Not only was the page helpful, it was a investigative. It explored different avenues of analysis that could lead anyone to an improved understanding. The only problem I saw was there was little to no speaking on the talk page. I found it was undoubtedly hard to see who actually did what. I think if the group made a section just for themselves to speak in, they might have found it easier to communicate with one another and tell each other what actions they were taking. Other than that, the page was certainly easy to understand and well-written. HyyyTyyy (talk) 01:53, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
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