Talk:Hotel Vancouver (1916)

message: Pondering this.  From what I've been informed about Canadian copyright by User:Bobanny, it turns out that despite BC Archives and VPL claims of copyright on their heritage collections, copyright expires 50 years after the photographer dies, no matter what.  The exception may be Crown Copyright, but I don't think that's the same as acquired copyright, i.e. acquired by the Crown's BC Archives from private copyright-holders, such as these professionally-shot pictures (probably marketing photos, as they're VERY pro in quality, esp. the interiors).  So, I'm prepared to trim these of their BC Archives border and put them in the main article but I wanted to sound this out here before proceeding likewise with Gastown and New Westminster and many other articles; this will form a model for the inclusion of other expired-copyright pictures currently claimed by BC Archives, VPL, Vancouver Archives; the Nat'l Archives collection by the way is honest enough to say "copyright expired".  IMO the BC Archives collection should be public-access anyway; they're handicapped by the "user pays" ethic of the current polity, which limits public usage of what should be highly-visible public images and not usable only at $35/pop (their going rate for shittily-produced prints).Skookum1 00:04, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Transfer of heritage pics to main article

message: Was this founded asa  CN Hotel, or as a CP Hotel?  The reason I'm asking is that the first and third Hotel Vancouvers were CP Hotels for sure, and this one was built to replace the first, which was at the same location at Georgia & Granville.....Skookum1 (talk) 17:42, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'ts CPR, CPR, CPR, I took out the bit about the CNR going bankrupt in 1918 as a non sequitur; this would have still been in CPR hands at the time, since they'd only opened it in 1916.  This was the heart of the CPR Townsite and was core to the commercial real estate promotion of "uptown" - the CPR's attempt (succesful) to draw commerce and social life away from Cordova & Cambie and the area of the old Courthouse (Victory Square); I think the first Hotel Vancouver, also on teh same site, dates from maybe 1895 or so, not sure of the exact date; it's in Matthews' Early Vancouver and other books, as well as in VPL collections......if there are modern writeups saying this is a CNR hotel only, then those modern writeups are wrong and hteir authors didn't do their homework, nor do they know much Vancouver civic history.  This was a CPR town, built and designed....there's no way the CPR would have sold a major, high-profile lot in the core of their main commercial subdivision to a rival company....as it was CNR had to put up with building a station on the far outskirts of downtown and was "kept out" of the core, likewise the Great Northern....Skookum1 (talk) 15:25, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: CN Hotel?  Not CP?

message: Teh summary of the occupation by veterans doesn't incldue part of the story; as a result of the occupation and its resolution, teh foundations of veterans' housing policies were put in place; until then the government had no policies at all to assist veterans with housing; I don't have the details on this, it was recounted in one of the city's magazines, maybe the �Georgia Straight, sometime in the last few years, and is the subject of one of those soppy Canadian Heritage Minutes TV commercials which make it sound all cuddly and decent (when it wasn't - if it hadn't been for the police refusal to attack the veterans squatting in the hotel, the federal negotiators would never have caved in....).Skookum1 (talk) 15:14, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Veterans housing issue

message: User:Fastily without warrant or notification, deleted the picture that had been on this page on the premise that it "did not have a source" () It DID but he's erased all ability to revise the templates in whatever way to make the picayune analism running rampant in licensing circles satisfied.  The image was in the public domain, and avaialbe on publicly-owned non-copyrighted and public-owned archives.  I, as the uploader, was NOT notified; he/she in his other incarnation User:Fastilysock had a run-in last week over other unwarranted deletion campaigns.  In my view, this person should be blocked for running amuck; destroying contents of this encyclopedia is getting to be a real ugly campaign and given this kind of behaviour people like this should NOT have ever BECOME admins, much less be allowed to continue....Skookum1 (talk) 03:07, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletionist destructiveness

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