Talk:HESA Saeqeh

message: Why was the previous image of this aircraft removed? Technajunky 23:22, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aircraft Photograph 

message: Many western sources seem to be writting this aircraft's name as the Saeqeh, as opposed to the Saegheh, even though the later is perhaps closer to the actual Persian pronounciation.
Technically Saeqeh is the more correct as the letter in question is a "qaf" and not "ghein" — صاعقه . The two characters are pronounced differently, with our q being the closest approximation. ghein is rolled, like the French "r". qaf is not rolled. If you want to be strictly correct, the name should be transliterated as sa'eqeh, where the apostrophe is a break between the two vowels, which are not elided. Thus, actual pronunciation is saa-éqé. The "qaf" is like a back of the tongue "g" ... and it's not gwe, but ge (hard g).
Difficult to explain, but we don't have these two sounds in English. And unfortunately a lot of people DO transliterate the character "qaf" as "gh", which should really be kept for "ghein".
Won't even go into why there's an "h" on the end! Romillyh (talk) 19:27, 9 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aircraft's Name 

message: 
:Since the article has a photo now, and it's a Creative Commons image, I have disabled the  tag. If there are additional/better images needed, feel free to undo my actions. Avicennasis @ 05:16, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Image request tag

message: http://www.spacewar.com/reports/Iran_To_Build_Advanced_Fighter_Jet_999.html The new fighter jet is similar to the U.S.-built F/A-18, while its appearance is similar to F-5E/F Tiger II, according to Press TV.
:So is this the Saeqeh? Hcobb (talk) 01:09, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like, if you allow for the typical chest-thumping of how effective the craft is. - The Bushranger One ping only 02:08, 1 March 2011 (UTC)

text: I'd say not yet. Once the AP or Aviation Leak picks it up then certainly; right now though it's entirely possible it's the usual "mine's bigger" bluster. - The Bushranger One ping only 22:19, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New version of Saeqeh? 

message: So the Iranians have procured M39 revolver cannons to arm their copied F-5's with? Or were they originally American F-5's and they came with the M39's installed? That said, I have to wonder about the armament section copy and pasted from the F-5 page. Just because it's an F-5 doesn't mean the Iranians have large stockpiles of US weapons lying around ready to use on their aircraft. Seriously:
"Rockets: ***2× LAU-61/LAU-68 rocket pods (each with 19× /7× Hydra 70 mm rockets, respectively); or
* 2× LAU-5003 rocket pods (each with 19× CRV7 70 mm rockets); or
* 2× LAU-10 rocket pods (each with 4× Zuni 127 mm rockets); or
* 2× Matra rocket pods (each with 18× SNEB 68 mm rockets)
* Missiles: ***4× AIM-9 Sidewinders
* 2× AGM-65 Maverick air-to-surface missiles
* AA-8 Aphid, AA-10 Alamo, AA-11 Archer and other Russian/Chinese AAMs
* Bombs: A variety of air-to-ground ordnance such as the Mark 80 series of unguided bombs (including 3 kg and 14 kg practice bombs), CBU-24/49/52/58 cluster bomb munitions, napalm bomb canisters and M129 Leaflet bomb, and laser-guided bombs of Paveway family."
Hydra rockets? LAU rocket pods? AGM-65 Mavericks? I could buy the Zunis and the Sidewinders, maybe the Mavericks, but anything they have is left over from what gave them before the revolution. That said, I seriously doubt the Iranians have stockpiles of "laser-guided bombs of the Paveway family". Seems far more likely that they adapted the plane to use mostly Soviet, indigenous or whatever other armaments they could obtain. If you don't KNOW what they arm it with, don't just copy the F-5 armament section word for word..45Colt 23:42, 10 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Armament? 

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message: The IP user 213.109.242.161 is removing sourced content from this article and other articles about Iranian weapons.  According to WHOIS, this IP is from Iran. - ZLEA T\C 00:41, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: COI, revert and ignore. - Ahunt (talk) 01:30, 17 September 2019 (UTC)
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