Talk:Nambiar (Nair Subcaste)

message: Should a Nambiar family/tharavadu list be included?. I personally do not know many apart from Vengayil, Kalliat, Kodoth, Kommath and Chenicheri. Hope people can add to it. Also wondering whether a soon(around December) to be Lt.Gen currently Major Gen Vinod Nayanar of the Indian Army, a Nambiar of the Kalliat family is notable enough to be included in the list. B Nambiar 14:49, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Gen Vinod Nayanar would still be a Nambiar, regardless of his father's subcaste and his title. I think that some Nambiars use their father's surnames, but that should not affect the subcaste of the individual. If someone changed their last name to "Namboothiri" or "Varma" it doesn't make them part of that community. The same reason is given for Capt Lakshmi Sehgal who was a Nair but married a North Indian. However the issue would be a matter of notability. He can be listed on the page if there are enough information and references about him. I am currently trying to clear up names which arent referenced or are not notable (this is an issue because previously List of Nairs page was deleted because people thought that the names were not famous).Malayaliyan 07:31, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wondering whether a Nambiar tharavadu/family list should be included. 

message: The relationship between nayanar and nambiar are the same as nambiar and kurup all of them being sub-clans among nayars of malabar that can marry one another.All documentary evidences like the one i have provided before claim vengayil to be nayanar.Moreover there also seem to be a SEPERATE NAYANAR PAGE and so Vengayil K Nayanar , the vengayil family and the vinod nayanar belong in the Nayanar page. Sorry to say this but inspite of me providing documentary evidence pertaining to vengayil-nayanar (Social Scientist, Vol. 5, No. 8 Mar., 1977 pp. 3-17 connection)you have neither produced any document that support vinod nayanar and kalliat connection nor nayanar-nambiar connection, . I am also from malabar and a nambiar myself and so i cannot buy your argument Nayanar and Nambiar are to different sub-clans. Also considering that there is a seperate Nayanar page -Kindly add these eminent personalities in the nayanar page-that is more appropriate thing to do otherwise we will be blamed of hijacking personalities from other sub-clans.LET US RESOLVE THIS ISSUE BASED ON DOCUMENTARY EVIDENCE. please understand and Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.99.165.173 (talk) 15:46, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: '''Vengayil and Nayanar-Seperate Nayanar page'''

message: A section regarding origins of Nambiars would improve the article unless irrelevant. The Keralolpathi states Kiriathil Nairs to be descended from warrior Naga tribes from the north who migrated south along the west coast. Is there any other oral or written evidence supporting this or suggesting different origins?. B Nambiar 15:11, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any oral or written evidence for a separate origin for Nambiars? 

message: Dear All, whoseover is adding new familynames- Kindly donot add thavazhis as seperate family names. For instance Ayiliath Kuttieri and Ayiliath Keezhadath are only two seperate thavazhis of the same stem Ayiliath. The seperation has been only at the mudal sambandham (property relationships). Therefore ayilyath itself should suffice. Incase you are interested in writing the thavazhi add the thavazhi names within a paranthesis adjacent to the taravadu name.Otherwise the list will become redundant. Thanks.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.99.165.173 (talk) 10:16, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family names-Kindly donot add Thavazhi names