Talk:Lateralus

message: *All song titles serve as redirects to this album, have their own pages, or have been placed at the appropriate disambiguation pages.--Hraefen Talk 23:47, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: '''<^>v!!This album is connected!!v<^>'''

message: Could we please get some sources? I see all these claims in the trivia section, but nothing to support them. Such as ...
""Eon Blue Apocalypse" is said to be about Adam Jones' Great Dane named Whiskers, that had cancer and died, according to an interview with Danny Carey."
"The fourth track, "Mantra", was alleged to be a slowed-down recording of someone—possibly an old woman—saying "I love you". Keenan has since stated that the song is a slowed-down recording of one of his Siamese cats being squeezed."
"The vocal on "Faaip de Oiad" is a recording of a hoax call from a 1997 conversation on Art Bell's radio program Coast to Coast AM. The caller, in a frantic tone, claimed to have been previously employed at Area 51 and stated that the true nature of aliens were that of "extra-dimensional beings" that have infiltrated the military establishment and plan to destroy the world's large population centers to more easily control the remaining humans. The caller called back during the same program to confirm the hoax. "Faaip de Oiad" is Enochian for "the voice of God." Described as Danny Carey's personal percussion piece for the album (as was "(–) Ions" on Ænima), he can be heard drumming intensely in the background along with sounds of static and various electronic debris."
"In the song "Lateralus," the line "as below so above and beyond I imagine" is a reference to astrology, specifically the Hermetic maxim - "as above so below" - the theory that the stars parallel everything in occurence on earth.""
Primarily the third one ... but all of these need sources, otherwise they're just utterly baseless claims. 203.166.251.194 12:20, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Afaik most of the trivia originates from the tool faq at toolshed. At least the info bout mantra, eon blue apoc, faaip de oiad.. dunno about the lateralus reference though. I recall an interview with manyard where he stated that he wrote a lot of the lyrics of lateralus spontanously during the recording sessions, which doesn't contradict any deeper references but makes them unlikely. --Johnnyw 12:53, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources? 

message: The album's nearly 5 years old now and the first bit of infomation on this page is about the early title change annoying some of the media. Is that still relevant for an album page?
How would it look if the first sentence on the Sgt Pepper page was the initial reaction to the title of some radio DJ? ... a bit silly methinks. Kansaikiwi 09:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You words in my ear. I think that was a good idea.. I rearranged the article a bit and expanded the systema story a bit to make it more comprehensible. Omitting the story would be a loss imho, since these rumors regarding upcoming Tool albums are quite notorious. --Johnnyw 15:03, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The intro 

message: So I heard that Lateralus was made on a special sort of CD, and I noticed an "HDCD" logo on the lower  right-hand side of the back of the outer sleeve. What difference does this make? Do you have to have a special sort of CD player to harness whatever magical properties HDCDs have?
:High Definition Compatible Digital Aottley 00:07, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The HDCD logo is actually misleading, as for many other HDCD releases. A software analysis shows that there are no HDCD effects enabled except during digital silence (where it doesn't change anything). Good news is that the dynamic compression isn't enabled either, so there is nothing for a HDCD decoder to correct. I don't think it would improve the article to spend time explaining why this technically is a HDCD but with every piece of HDCD technology switched off except possibly where it doesn't change a single bit, so I propose to remove the entire reference to HDCD altogether. 84.208.83.178 (talk) 22:11, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  HDCD? 

message: Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that this reference to the lyrics is incorrect:
    [1] so
    [1] much
    [2] more and
It should be: 
    [1] so
    [1] much
    [2] more that
-Kris
: I believe he sings 'and', which was also posted at the official Tool site. –Pomte 18:38, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lyric edit needed in article

message: I don't know how to put a citation in but for the source about the Grudge being inspired by Nathaniel Hawthorne: http://toolshed.down.net/faq/faq.html —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.162.206.170 (talk • contribs) 
:Does the Toolshed FAQ really count as a reliable source? --King Bee 16:05, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation 

message: This is to document that the correct spelling for track 13 is "Faaip De Oiad", as it is spelled on the back of the CD's case. The spelling of "Faaip De Oaid" on the Tool Web site is a typo. I found two different English-Enochian dictionaries that contain the "Oiad" spelling and not the "Oaid" spelling: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Thebes/5777/enochian.txt http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/enoch1.txt -- Christopher C. Parker t c 17:37, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: These two dictionaries are also listed as external links at the Enochian article. -- Christopher C. Parker t c 17:40, 23 October 2007 (UTC)

text: See also the discussion at http://musicbrainz.org/show/edit/?editid=7688886 -- Christopher C. Parker t c 17:50, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Faaip De Oiad 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Tool - Lateralus.jpg

message: Great review: http://www.rollingstone.com/reviews/album/211444/review/5941101/lateralus Lara❤Love 02:39, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Tool workspace 

message: * The cover text is styled to resemble Arabic writing.
* One month later, they revealed the real title and a completely different tracklist, much to the chagrin of several members of the media who had accepted and promoted the original title.
–Pomte 17:44, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced claims 

message: I don't really know which reviews are considered professional and which aren't. I added a review from a site I'd like to add in different album articles, maintained by a reviewer who's been cited in other wikipedia articles. The main difference between him and a professional reviewer is that he doesn't get paid for his work. I don't know if that's what matters, the standard of the reviews are as high and professional as any of the biggest magazines'. Whoever's in charge of these kind of stuff, please inform me and check out the review if needed. It's Fluffhouse Music Reviews and has a link. Revan ltrl (talk) 23:08, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Professional Reviews 

message: I have noticed that on Amazon it claims this album has been "This item has been discontinued by the manufacturer." for two release dates of the audio CD and the cassette version. Does anybody know what the deal is with this? has this album gone into its final run? Ostrolphant (talk) 03:36, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Discontinued??

message: The review scores box on the right says:
Pitchfork Media	(1.9/10) [21]
However, after reading the actual review behind it ( http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/8104-lateralus/ ),
it sounds like 1.9 was meant to be very good, like an A-.
The review clearly says:
"Even as amazing as Lateralus is, I feel like there's a monster coming in three years. Music comes in cycles, and works on math, and my life and Tool are proof of that for sure."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.76.177.34 (talk) 11:27, 11 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pitchfork rating 

message: The last 2 paragraphs under the "Background" section seems to be out of context or out of order:
Two of the singles from the album, "Parabola" and "Schism", are featured in the video game Guitar Hero World Tour.
The insert is translucent and flips open to reveal the different layers of the human body. Disguised in the brain matter on the final layer is the word "God". The artwork was done by artist Alex Grey, who would later design the 3D edition cover for their fourth album 10,000 Days.
The paragraph before the two above talks about the vinyl edition of Salival. Then the next paragraph ("Two of...") talks about Guitar Hero and the paragraph after that goes back to talking about Salival. It would seem to make more sense to reverse the order of the last two paragraphs.
(Also, the last paragraph has a link to "human body." Why is that exactly?)
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message: I don't want to meddle with Tool articles myself (too sensitive a subject as I have learned in the past), but the sections "Commercial Performance" and "Charts" partially overlap, and the second one contains unreferenced info that is outdated. The text in the "Charts" section should be merged into the "Commercial Performance" section.
And on a somewhat less important note concerning the track list: the 2'10" silence is not at the end of track 12 but at the start of track 13. 94.226.67.22 (talk) 15:52, 11 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overlapping sections 

message: The cover was one of the most frusrating things I've met. Why put a tiight plastic condom over the album? Don't they want the fans to get to the music? It was also very cheaply done. Teared easily and the postioning of the glued parts were not correct. Plastic over plastic, over plastc. Most musicians had turned into cardboard covers in 2001 and Tool just adds more plastic. Linkato1 (talk) 11:29, 15 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the Cover