Talk:Hellenistic philosophy

message: User:keepcalmandchill Sophists should not be removed. They were active in the Hellenistic period. Note particularly the Second Sophistic.
:That should be in Ancient Roman philosophy, no? I'm fine with including the Sophists, it should just have some relevance to the era. Keepcalmandchill (talk) 16:22, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I mentioned the Second Sophistic as an example of the continuation of Sophism from the pre-Socratic era to beyond the Hellenistic era. Teishin (talk) 16:41, 13 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sophists 

message: Shouldn't post-31 BCE philosophy be moved to Ancient Roman philosophy? Keepcalmandchill (talk) 05:15, 14 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that there's no agreed-upon dividing line here. Nothing forms a bright line. During the Imperial period nearly all philosophy continues to be done in Greek, mostly by Greeks. What is done in Latin is mostly for popularization, and not by important original thinkers. What we have from sources such as Marcus Aurelius and Sextus Empiricus differ little from what was said 300 years prior. Teishin (talk) 02:35, 15 November 2020 (UTC)

text: For example, consider this source from Boston University "Hellenistic philosophy is a name for a variety of philosophical options which flourished in the period from the life of Alexander the Great (356-323 BCE) to the late 2nd century CE." http://people.bu.edu/wwildman/WeirdWildWeb/courses/wphil/lectures/wphil_theme04.htm Teishin (talk) 02:32, 18 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roman Era philosopher? 

message: The tag "Under construction|section" should be removed from == Developments and debates in thought == because there are no presently active editors pursuing this. Teishin (talk) 01:48, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I will add more content tonight Keepcalmandchill (talk) 01:50, 22 November 2020 (UTC)

text: Here is a brief description of my proposed edits: an expansion on the section Epicureanism, with content focused on the ethical aspects of their thought. Another expansion is of the section mentioned in the heading, with content focusing on epistemological debates between the Stoics, Cynics and other schools of the era. I can either make the edits directly and we can discuss any disagreements on specific issues here, or I can post the edits here first. Keepcalmandchill (talk) 02:09, 22 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeing as the discussion here has picked up, is there anyone opposed to me adding the aforementioned content?  Keepcalmandchill (talk) 04:19, 23 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  There's no harm in trying out an expansion.  GPinkerton (talk) 12:06, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  GPinkerton, you are probably unaware that both Keepcalmandchill and I are under a warning about edits on this page without consensus, the reasons for which you can surmise by all of the discussion above and a review of the article's edit history starting on 8 July. Because of that and the fact that there is not agreement on such fundamental matters as whether the Cynics should be included on this page, there would seem to be potential for harm.Teishin (talk) 16:59, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Teishin I have not argued against the inclusion of Cynics at any point (if you mean the July 8th edit, that was because they were listed as non-Hellenistic). I literally expanded their section massively. And as you can see above, this proposed edit has nothing to do with them. If you wish to discuss them, please do so in the appropriate section. Keepcalmandchill (talk) 22:49, 24 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Keepcalmandchill prior to your 8 July edit to remove the Cynics from this article the Cynics were not listed as "non-Hellenistic." This can be observed [] Teishin (talk) 13:14, 25 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Developments and debates in thought 

message: I've added citations from reliable sources to support the argument that this page, which is about Hellenistic philosophy, should be focused on philosophy done the Hellenistic period, not all philosophers who are "Hellenistic" i.e. Greek. I've removed any schools that began after the end of the Hellenistic period (31 BC). The content wasn't much other than a few lists and uncited content, but anyone is welcome to add such content to Ancient Roman philosophy if they feel it is best. I've also moved the content on the classical period schools to the background section, as it is relevant to the article but should be covered in a more abbreviated WP:SUMMARYSTYLE. Several scholarly monographs, including those already cited on this page, treat this as the meaning of "Hellenistic" in the term "Hellenistic philosophy." The content will need to be expanded from pages such as Stoicism, Epicureanism and Academic skepticism
@Keepcalmandchill - any concerns or feedback?  - car chasm (talk) 01:54, 15 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scope