Talk:Hyderabadi Muslims

message: Hi All,
thanks to Wikepedia Team who gathered and posted the following information on it...
I would like to call Hyderabadis for a discussion forum on this topic...
:: Hi, but WP is not a discussion forum.  Regards :) --Omer123hussain (talk) 20:49, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Thanks

message: I've removed:
:Hyderabadi Urdu is very reflective of the relaxed attitude of the Hyderabadi citizens which allowed the coinage of words, much like ebonics.
I'm not sure if this means coinage within "Ebonics" (AAVE) or the coining of "Ebonics". There's nothing remarkable about the coining within AAVE, the coining of "Ebonics", or the coining within any language or lect: All languages and lects do it. I also find extremely doubtful any claim that any language or lect reflects the attitude of its speakers. Finnish is agglutinative: is this because its speakers agglutinative or otherwise "sticky" in some literal or metaphorical sense? If no, you mean something else, then just what do you mean, and what evidence do you have for it from a reputable linguistics text? -- Hoary 10:22, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Junk linguistics

message: There appears to be a serious lack of references for some of the claims in this article.  Specifically, the reference to "The Nizam was the riches man of the world in his period."  How was this determined?  What reference claims he was the richest in that period?  To a certain degree, it sounds like a bit of well-intentioned patriotic pride, claiming a past ruler of Hyderabad to be the richest man in the world.  If it's true, references should be provided.  If not, it should be stricken.  Kemkerj 20:03, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lack of References

message: There seems to be some confusion about the Muslim culture of Hyderabad. Hyderabad, as a princely state ruled by an Urdu speaking Muslim prince developed a unique culture that other areas of the modern Indian state of Andhra Pradesh did not. Those areas of Andhra Pradesh that were part of Madras Presidency--Coastal Andhra and Rayalaseema have a population of mostly Telugu speaking Muslims who see themselves as a distinct community different from Hyderabadi Muslims.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.242.182.19 (talk) 19:05, 21 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not the same as Andhra Muslims 

message: There appears to be a significant Urdu-speaking Muslim community who are identified with Hyderabad in South Africa, who may have formed part of the indentured migration to the country. Does anyone have sources that verify this ancestry, and if they do, could they incorporate it? Park3r (talk) 22:20, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: South Africa

message: * http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:2012-Hyderabad-India.jpg :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 11:59, 9 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  images 

message: Is there any reality about Deendar, being a Islamic/Muslim scholar. Please provide the reliable source. Until then I shall remove the text. Regards :)--Omer123hussain (talk) 20:49, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed Deendar name

message: This section is looking like opinion piece and has recently been tagged with related concerns.. If not addressed appropriately, this section may possibly be removed.
Adamstraw99 (talk) 02:39, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: The Hyderabadi Muslim Identity After the Integration

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Recently, I've been in an edit war with Adamstraw99 regarding Shahrukh Khan being a Hyderabadi Muslim (Half), and whether his personal twitter account can legitimize his name being put under Hyderabadi Muslim artists. What do y'all think? -- — Preceding unsigned comment added by Magichero1234 (talk • contribs) 
: You need to read WP:RS. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 16:14, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shahrukh Khan is half Hyderabadi Muslim 

message: Does anyone know a real population figure? The current is very vague, and there isn't a lot of info on their population. Magichero1234 (talk) 10:37, 2 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

message: I am afraid our Muslim brethren have been adding serious amounts of WP:OR, which hasn't been verified or isolated. Even the citations don't make any difference, because WP:OR is being added within the cited material. An example is this edit, which adds material under citations with no explanations whatsoever. I am afraid somebody will need to go through this article from top to bottom, and throw out all the unsourced WP:OR. I have added a POV tag to the article. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 21:12, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serious POV issues 

message: History and culture -)--Omer123hussain (talk) 04:22, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  citations 

message: The term Hyderabadi commonly refers to the Hyderabadi Muslim ethnic group as well https://books.google.ca/books?id=HQCvgavbQjgC&printsec=frontcover&dq=hyderabadis&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwj6yMCCncvmAhVEK80KHTJ0BqUQ6AEIKTAA#v=onepage&q=hyderabadis&f=false Magichero1234 (talk) 07:18, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: That source deals with the historicity of the community. Hyderabadis is not a common term for the group. You are basically asking to represent one religious community with a term that is not exclusive to it, this is simply WP:POVPUSHING and note done. Gotitbro (talk) 07:29, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

text: that source is from 2007. And yes, it deals with the historicity of the community, but which community? You need sources for your claim. The note on people from the city and people from the former state is mentioned. Magichero1234 (talk) 07:33, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Why would I need sources to counter your selective and POVPUSHING use of sources? Anyway seeing the history of the page and Talk page it is clear you are personally attached to this topic.  can look into your recent wide ranging lead and infobox changes since he seems to be more familiar with the edits here. Gotitbro (talk) 07:40, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, the "Hyderabadi" identity is mainly used by Muslims because Hindus use other identities, "Telugu", "Telangana" etc. But nothing stops Hindus from using the label either. So, the equivalence Hyderabadi Muslim = Hyderabadi doesn't hold, but it is frequently the case. -- Kautilya3 (talk) 11:14, 23 December 2019 (UTC)

text:  Because that's how wikipedia works, you need sources. Shahrukh Khan claim? Also sourced. Magichero1234 (talk) 08:01, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I am talking about your selective use of sources don't need any source for that. Sure it might be "sourced" does not mean its appropriate or relevant. Gotitbro (talk) 08:13, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hyderabadi Muslims vs. Hyderabadis