Talk:Francisco and Jacinta Marto

message: I think this should really be split into two pages, one on Jacinta and one on Francisco. As it stands it's cumbersome. ANB (talk) 22:59, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see it as cumbersome, but let us get other opinions too. Two pages would have too little info on each. History2007 (talk) 06:10, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Each child in their own right is not as notable.. plus the children are venerated together, so I say one page. --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 22:52, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree, and they were even beatified together so it makes sense to keep them together. But the page could use some more content probably. History2007 (talk) 04:48, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split page? 

message: This article needs references that appear in reliable third-party publications. Primary sources or sources affiliated with the subject are generally not sufficient for a Wikipedia article. Please add more appropriate citations from reliable sources.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.175.65.8 (talk) 22:10, 1 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: This article gives us the impression that everything that supposedly occurred in Fátima is historically accurate. It was written from a believer's point of view and only includes sources written by other believers.
How do we know that Jacinta said what she said?  The whole thing smacks of religious propaganda.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.80.12.137 (talk) 12:37, 23 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religious bias 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Gravestone and other sources give June 11, 1908 https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/find-a-grave-prod/photos/2017/122/8115823_1493861986.jpg Thisdaytrivia (talk) 18:19, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of Birth 

message: The article says, "In 1937 Pope Pius XI decided that causes for minors should not be accepted as they could not fully understand heroic virtue or practice it repeatedly, both of which are essential for canonization. For the next four decades, no sainthood processes for children were pursued." This comes from this article in the National Catholic Register, but it appears to be untrue since Dominic Savio was canonized in 1954. —Mahāgaja (formerly Angr) · talk 09:48, 12 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. It would be useful to have some documentation on the 1937 decision referenced in the article, though I can't seem to find any at this point online. As you say, Dominic Savio was 14 and, even more strikingly, 11-year-old Maria Goretti was canonised in 1950. That said, their causes may have already been well advanced in 1937, and perhaps the pope's decision only applied to the introduction of new causes? I don't think an understanding of a 'child' as being someone under the age of reason (understood as around 7 years old in the church since the early 1900s) can have been the issue, since the Marto siblings were older.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:9B7F:3A00:4494:ADFE:AF9:6451 (talk) 14:27, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canonization of children