Talk:Andrew Baron

message: Requested info added. Pepso 09:51, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

message: My god, this entry reads like Baron wrote it himself. Far too flacky.
--Nick Douglas 05:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't agree. Baron and Rocketboom got a huge amount of press coverage. Those were the sources, and all sentences are factual, based on those sources, including direct quotes from CBS News, Rolling Stone and others. Pepso 13:36, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree it reads like Baron wrote it himself, which is unfortunate. Baron's work is noteworthy, but this piece is largely about what he and others have said, rather than anything he's done.  I'd expect better from a celebrity gossip vlog. Certainly don't delete, but please get some meat in the thing. Danja 23:04, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some NPOV please? 

message: Andrew Baron is a not a well known name, but Rocketboom is! Gordo 10:06, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No reason why he should be a well known name. How many people know the name Jennifer Bermon... the producer of NBC Nightly News? How many people can name the inventor of OCR or the mouse? What Baron created is a significant turning point for the Internet, and I've tried to add the requested items of importance and reference. Pepso 13:13, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I am sure that this page will stay, now: Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Andrew_Baron Gordo 08:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Keep it 

message: Recent edits by Sarahmeyers seems insistent on restoring a much older version on top of recent edits made by a large number of users.  This article needs quite a bit of work (and I invite others to help) but I take specific issue with including large amounts of uncited viewership/popularity statistics yet deleting an independent analysis by BusinessWeek that provides a different yet interesting viewpoint.  Cleanr 02:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  RFC for NPOV 

message: Can anyone tell me why a Baron article should be in Wikipedia, rather than moving the info to the Rocketboom article? Mpublius 18:55, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Referred here while perusing the AN backlogs. My initial take, knowing nothing of the history of this article and the related Rocketboom article: Notability here looks to be ok to me, though the tone of the article itself has some deep POV issues. Also, a lot of what is here is contained almost word-for-word on the Rocketboom article. Thus, I do not think I would support a delete of this article, though it seems like an ideal Merge candidate, as much of the content is already in the RB article; merging the material facts of Mr. Baron into that article would be easily done, and would only serve to further improve the Rocketboom article. Arakunem 00:11, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to merge with Rocketboom. Andrew Baron blanked the page (see personal blog at http://dembot.com/post/28380458). After being restored, anonymous edits started. Cleanr (talk) 21:13, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge/Delete 

message: I have been looking at this page as Baron claimed on his blog that naysayers have owned this article. 
Baron and Congdon have been fighting for some time and if you look at the changes user: Cleanr has made to Barons article as well as the Rocketboom article, and also note that the article for Amanda Congdon which is overly fluffly has never been touched by Cleanr, you will note that Cleanr is very likey part of Congdons camp, if not Congdon herslef. 
I would like for Wikipedia to open an investigation and ban Cleanr from touching any of the articles. 
One perfect example is that Cleanrs justification for her most recent edits had to do with removing info from Barons article that was duplicate to Rocketbooms article but the negitive points were left in tact. Ie, Cleanr only removed the positive duplicate information. 
The above example is just one of many so I will revert Cleanrs edits and ask that Wikipedia lock down this article for some time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.9.250.27 (talk) 20:34, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see why Rocketboom stats should be in this article at all since they're not about Andrew Baron. The point of the merge was to get the Rocketboom stuff in the correct place, which should have the side effect of eliminating much of the controversy here as well. Cleanr (talk) 16:32, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request to ban User: Cleanr 

message: See previous discussion and history regarding the merge. Please note that material and links from this article were added to the Rocketboom article. The Andrew Baron article needs to have material about Andrew Baron: his personal background, personal achievements, etc. Articles where he is quoted in to the context of Rocketboom likely belong in the Rocketboom article. You may wish to edit that article instead, or add material there. Please discuss here or on my talk page if you have other ideas. Cleanr (talk) 16:23, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: * This page isn't the place for personal fights. Please bring up issues on my talk page and/or find an admin who can help you through the process if you feel I'm damaging the articles.  Specific to Andrew Baron, the merge was discussed and received support.  The full text of the Andrew Baron article was added to the Rocketboom article -- you may want to make changes there.  I've reset the bio to its post-merge state.  If you think it's somehow biased (frankly I don't see it) please add proper sourced material that directly talks about Baron separate from his work on Rocketboom -- that's the way to improve this biography! Cleanr (talk) 18:24, 29 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge in progress 

message: Cleanr continues to delete info and tries to merge data.  He sent a note to my talk page where he continues to claim that his views are supported. 
I have shown Cleanr is not consistent, not forthcoming and I've shown cases where Cleanr is biased, all documented here in detail. Many more support this article beside Cleanr. 
When Baron wrote on his blog that he wanted the entry deleted because it is owned by a biased party, it is clear, as documented here, that Cleanr is that person. 
So, I have AGAIN restored the article and will continue to improve it over time as new information becomes available. 
I will also head over to the Rocketboom, Joanne Colan and Amanda Congdons entries to clean them up. I will ask that others please help pitch in if you know of any information.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mustard45 (talk • contribs) 14:22, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rebuilding 

message: I have not deleted this talk page for now, but it may make sense to move the material of relevance over to the Rocketboom article... ++Lar: t/c 17:33, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Redirected

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