Talk:Sand cat

message: This picture is to small to be eligible for consideration as a  [[Wikipedia:Featured picture but I would love to see one taken which would be eligible for consideration. I'm all but certain a good, qualifying picture of the little critter would be a shoo-in for winning.Badbilltucker 16:35, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Nominate this for a move to Sand cat, seeing how "sand cat" isn't a proper noun (no matter what some people seem to think...)  TREKphiler hit me ♠  03:11, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree. The logic layed out at WP:BIRD as sound. - UtherSRG (talk) 08:19, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Movin' on

message: The article listed as a reference shows that large birds of prey (raptors) are a threat to the sand cat. A few users keep removing this, I assume because they are unfamiliar with what a raptor is. I have reverted the edit.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by F4hy (talk • contribs) 04:45, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Raptor

message: * http://jas.fass.org/cgi/content/abstract/75/8/2154 Diet in captivity.
* http://www.springerlink.com/content/bva17b0mdvdc3nty/ Sensitive hearing.
* http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/110492479/abstract?CRETRY=1&SRETRY=0 Social interaction in captivity.
* http://icb.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/33/2/151 Social behaviour amongst all small cats.
* http://www.springerlink.com/content/j3068r2p2p667995/ Phylogeny. Marskell (talk) 11:13, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abstracts 

message: If anyone could add information about the Sand Cat's predators and prey or where it fits in a food chain, that would be an excellent addition.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.35.228.100 (talk) 02:56, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  additional sections 

message: Why is it relevant that one kitten was born at Israel's Safari Zoo in July 2011? It is expected to join a program for breeding them in captivity for release in the wild. Kittens being born in captivity is hardly a new thing. Having this on the page seems like advertising for the zoo, and is thus counter to Wikipedia's policies about advertising. Nadiatalent (talk) 12:22, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  just one kitten? 

message: sand cats are like, really cool. Oh also, one kitten is not relevant to the article at hand. I agree with the advertising thing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.50.153.61 (talk) 17:30, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps if you read the article just as I spent a few minutes doing you would see the issue of "One" kitten was resolved in 2011 !!! Your opinion on how cool they are is noted though irrelevant to the Encyclopedia. Regards ZooPro 12:38, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cool

message: In the "Characteristics" section is written the fragment "The ears are b[15]". Later in that section are two nonsensical transitions.  The first one seems to confuse the paws and the eyes: "The undersides of the paws are protected from extreme temperatures by a thick covering of fur. They are set low, giving a broad flat appearance to the head."  The second confuses the paws and the ears: "This feature makes the cat's tracks obscure and difficult to identify and follow.[17] This trait may protect the inner ears from wind-blown sand and aid detection of movements of subterranean prey."  24.84.84.252 (talk) 18:49, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: -- hey, you broke this here; could you fix this please? --jpgordon::==( o ) 19:33, 14 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Removed the broken line. I planned to improve this article, but really busy in real life this month. Sainsf (talk · contribs) 03:10, 15 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Editoral Issues

message: "The sand cat has a bite force quotient of 133.1", which is the highest of all cats.[21] that cant be right thats higher than a tiger
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bite_force_quotient
:Looking at the source, it is almost right. They give two different bite force quotients. For the one at the canine tip, the sand cat's is indeed the highest of all felids (136.7), whereas at the carnassial eccone (sand cat: 133.1) it is surpassed by the Pampas cat, Oncifelis/Leopardus colocolo. And yes, it is well possible that this is higher than a tiger, because it's the bite forece quotient, which is calculated in some relation to body size, and not the pure bite force as such. Robuer (talk) 08:46, 5 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  bite force  

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thread_title:  External links modified (January 2018) 

message: Thanks very much...conducted is much better than "carried out. I have no desire to argue with your horror at "due to a lack of in-depth studies targeting wild sand cat populations"  versus "as only a few in-depth studies targeting wild sand cat populations were carried out". I may say "lack of"...you may say only a few ..but it conveys the same meaning to the reader, IMO. Some studies were made,...if no studies of any sort had been completed, I hope that is what the article would, of course, say.  But please, please don't end a sentence with "carried out." This is why I asked the rhetorical grammatical question, concerning where things were being carried. Thanks for providing "conducted", which I respect as a good choice, since you were unhappy with my changes. Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 04:53, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: A few is more a statement of fact while lack of is making a judgement. I also disagree on conducted over carried out, but neither is needed. I'd also replaced targeting with examined. How about as only a few in-depth studies have examined wild sand cat populations. —  Jts1882 | talk  09:49, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm: studies do not examine, but PEOPLE do. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 10:34, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carried out...Conducted is much much better 

message: Under Hunting and diet, first paragraph, last sentence: "The Toubou people recounted of sand cats coming to their camps at night and drinking fresh camel milk."
This is very poorly worded. "Recounted of" is absolutely poor English grammar. "The Toubou people of Northern Africa reported that sand cats came to their camps at night and drank fresh camel milk." This is much better, but if you prefer to leave out "Northern Africa", for whatever personal and editorial reasons, please, at least, allow one of these grammatical sentences: "The Toubou people reported some incidents of sand cats coming to their camps at night and drinking fresh camel milk." OR  "The Toubou people reported that sand cats occasionally came to their camps at night and drank fresh camel milk."to remain. 
Surely, we should supply a two word modifier "Northern Africa". Please let me know why this was objectionable. Thanks, Tribe of Tiger Let's Purrfect! 05:51, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't access the reference but I suspect recounted was used to indicate that this is a word-of-mouth telling of a story, possibly part of folk-law. Reported suggests something more formal, such as a report in a newspaper or scientific journal. If my guess is right then The Toubou people tell stories of sand cats coming into their camps at night and drinking fresh camel milk might be better (or recount for tell). —  Jts1882 | talk  09:57, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct : word of mouth, but not based on structured interviews. Dragesco-Joffé spent a lot of time with the Toubou during his several visits to the Ténéré. -- BhagyaMani (talk) 10:32, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammatical problems 

message: @BhagyaMani: What is the source for this statement? This sentence has no ref, and is featured only in the lead section. From Special:Diff/954253204, I understand that you have inserted this info. --NGC 54 (talk｜contribs) 00:57, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your note. Dragesco-Joffé (1993) is the source for this statement. He also took photos of a sand cat killing a snake. I amended the sentence in the lead, as I think it is not relevant what the Tuareg think about the cat's diet. – BhagyaMani (talk) 07:23, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tuareg people and snakes 

message: I merged/redirected the two subspecies articles into this one, as they were essentially just partial, sparser duplicates of this article. Also, I added an image that is specified to be of one subspecies to the taxonomy section, so if anyone can find an image specifically of the other subspecies (F. m. margarita), that'd be useful. Happy editing, SilverTiger12 (talk) 21:29, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status update