Talk:Anglo-Saxon paganism

message: Hello, An evil spirit in OE is an unwight, a wight instead is a normal animal. Thanks --130.123.103.11 (talk) 02:02, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
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message: Most of this section consists of a Mudman urban legend that is uncited and appears to have nothing to do with pre-christian medieval beliefs  Ffejmopp (talk) 13:02, 27 June 2012 (UTC)
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message: When did ancient polytheistic practices in the British Isles largely end? I'm aware that Christianization became very prevalent following the eighth century, but how long did communities or individuals hold out on Paganism? 72.194.68.4 (talk) 18:57, 22 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Different parts of the British Isles experienced Christianisation at different periods, but when it comes to England it's difficult to say for certain. The English aristocracy had (at least officially) converted to Christianity by the start of the eighth century, although the Scandinavian settlement of England in the ninth centuries then brought in a new wave of non-Christian migrants. However, by the High Middle Ages (so 1066), there was certainly no evidence for the continued practice of pagan religion in England (Ronald Hutton's article, "How Pagan were the English Peasants", in Folklore, is a good summary of the evidence on this issue). Problematically of course, the English populace remained fairly polytheistic even when they were Christian. The cult of saints greatly proliferated in the late Anglo-Saxon period onward, while it is probable that these Christian Anglo-Saxons also believed in all manner of spirits (like the elves mentioned in elf-charms), and perhaps they felt the need to propitiate some of them with offerings. So while paganism, as an active non-Christian world-view, was pretty much extinct in England by the eleventh century (or so the scant evidence available to us suggests), the Christians of this period continued to behave in a very polytheistic way that would not have been totally unfamiliar to their pagan ancestors. Midnightblueowl (talk) 12:57, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Decline and Prevalence 

message: Although well-written this article needs som tweaking. Some authors "argue" while others "note" while all of them are making educated guesses. It seems that the authors of this article are quite certain of what theories are to believed and what are not. If this isn't addressed, I'll have a go at it. Berig (talk) 17:23, 12 September 2018 (UTC)
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message: Hello, under 5. Cult Practices 1.3 Cultic trees and megaliths, there is a passage talking about unknown pillars that were objects of veneration. The same wiki walk that brought me to this page also took me to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irminsul here on Wikipedia, which has to be the same thing. But I have no primary souce to attest to that, and no real idea where to start.
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message: Whereby the following is said within the main text of the article:
: The term "pre-Christian" religion has also been used; this avoids the judgemental connotations of "paganism" and "heathenism" but is not always chronologically accurate. 
It seems fitting that the article name and references to the subject matter of the article should shift away from the label of "paganism" and instead refer to the "pre-Christianity Anglo-Saxon religion" 
In some places the word order switching around for purposes of fluid communication makes sense, but I would say that on balance the article would be better of for using a more scholarly term which tries to be clean of bias.
TLDR: The article says outright that one of the established scholarly positions is that the word "paganism" to describe pre-Christian Anglo-Saxon religion is reductionist, framed by early Christian bias, and suggests a kind of uniformity of beliefs that simply did not exist. It would be better, therefor, to use a more neutral term which lacks the implications which make the former term undesirable. Merovingian Fan (talk) 20:29, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article and subject reference name change