Talk:Territorial evolution of Canada

message: I have added this category.  I am not sure about the naming but I like Golbez's work and I think eventually every country should have a page like this.  Does this seem like a good category?  Feel free to tweak and rename but I think we need something. gren グレン 01:37, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I think it'd be neat to have for a lot of things. In fact, I got a request some time ago to do something similiar for Wisconsin's counties. :) --Golbez 02:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Category:Territorial evolution]] 

message: Nice job, only thing that's missing is a legend, since I read your similar article dealing with the US first, I knew the colours, but it wouldn't hurt to put the same legend on these maps.
I'm amazed at what you've done with these projects, I'm sure someday we'll have "Territorial evolution of the Maldives" or some other equally obscure country, soon!  --Canuckguy 03:35, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I made the Canada ones first, but published the USA ones second, and I had more input on those, since it was such a large project. I'll get back to doing that for the Canadian ones. :) --Golbez 03:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

text: k it has a legend :) --Golbez 10:00, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legend 

message: This may seem like a stupid request, but I often wondered what the difference is between a province and a territory. Is it possible to include more info in this wonderful history of Canada's development to include a definition of these terms for designated areas, and what - if any - political difference there is today between them? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.106.196.31 (talk) 15:10, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's probably better handled in the Provinces and territories of Canada article, but as far as I know, it's mainly a matter of governance; the provinces are self-governed and have certain inherent rights, whereas the territories have only those rights given directly from Ottawa. --Golbez 16:11, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distinction between Province and Territory 

message: It looks like the date of the agreement on the 1874 Ontario boundary was June 26.   --Cam 15:26, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Two years later and I finally act on this, thanks so much for the link. :) --Golbez (talk) 05:50, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sometime in 1874

message: says it existed but provides no cite or link to an article with more details. --24.252.52.108 06:03, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This was the first of these I completed so the referencing is sub-par, but all of the changes are documented on the Atlas of Canada site linked at the end; the 1881 map on that site mentions the dispute. --Golbez 06:05, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Known as the Rat Portage dispute (that being the old name for Kenora).  Ontario sent in provincial officers to police Ontarian law even though the site had been functionally part of the Manitoban ecumene.....needs more detail here, not sure of sources, what I saw was in Canadian Geographic a long time ago.  Riel had wanted the Lakehead as part of his vision of the West, the implication being that if Manitoba had had a Great |Lakes port its economy would have been vastly different (to say nothing of the industries at Ignace and Dryden).  Not relevant to this map but of note in Canadian political history is that from the creation of Manitoba until about 1939, all Manitoba legislation had to have the approval of the Onterio legislature/governmentSkookum1 (talk) 02:30, 15 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  manitoba-ontario dispute? 

message: All the maps on this page are incorrect. The Sverdrup islands were terra nullis until claimed by Norway in 1928.  They were only discovered in 1898.  The Norwegians ceded them to canada in 1930. All of the maps show them as belonging to canada before they were even discovered!XavierGreen (talk) 06:49, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sverdrup Islands

message: This term is used several times on this page, but I can't find it used anywhere else on Wikipedia. AFAIK, The island of Newfoundland and the region of Labrador have always been co-equal parts of Newfoundland, whether as the Colony or Dominion of Newfoundland or the province now named Newfoundland and Labrador. 70.88.213.74 (talk) 21:27, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Dependency of Labrador?

message: I've added a sub-heading for each date.  The reason for doing so is that I think it improves the usefulness of the article, by allowing links to particular dates in the territorial evolution.  For example, I've been working on various pages about the history of the NWT and Saskatchewan, and it really helps to be able to insert a link to show the area covered by the NWT at a particular time, to explain just how different the map of the NWT was in the late 19th century compared to today. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 12:14, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Added Sub-Headings

message: The September 1, 1905 table entry contains an Endnote. Nothing happens when you click the "A". 90.229.34.175 (talk) 09:11, 15 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It was added in 2009 by User:SriMesh. Not sure of its purpose and also not sure what it should do upon clicking. Hwy43 (talk) 05:27, 16 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  endnote meridian A? 

message: Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that :File:Canada provinces evolution 2.gif will be appearing as picture of the day on July 1, 2015. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2015-07-01. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks! — Chris Woodrich (talk) 00:01, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:Canada provinces evolution 2.gif]] to appear as POTD 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Just a note that all the maps of disputed areas of Canada after 1873 still show Prince Edward Island as grey (i.e. not part of Canada), when in fact all the maps after 1873 (when it joined) should show it as yellow.  Just a small error to note, and hopefully equally as small to fix.  --Canuckguy (talk) 05:25, 27 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dispute maps 

message: thanks for your explanation in your revert of my revert on the area(/rectangle) around Winnipeg. I have no problem with doing it one way or the other, but we should be consistent throughout the list, and it does seem that you have more experience working in these lists. So I'm just pointing out that the Manitoba entry isn't the only one which was defined by geographic coordinates, I think it was just one of very few where the geographic coordinates were part of the territorial change - in a lot of cases these were preexisting British territories being added to Canada without the boundaries changing, or the boundary was defined as a line running between two geographic features. But for example the June 26, 1874 expansion of Ontario was to the 51st parallel, and the creation of Alberta and Saskatchewan was defined by the 60th parallel, and it's not mentioned here but the Labrador boundary dispute was settled in part along the 52nd parallel. We should be consistent in the detail we use in the entries. What do you think? Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 13:30, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed the 1874 one too, but in that case it's more relevant because it involves a dispute. And the creation of the others, only involves mentioning two lines, whereas Manitoba is three. I know, I know, it sounds very minor, but I don't want to get into the situation of having to describe Nunavut's border, which is ... not friendly. (and in fact was the reason I wanted to rip all the coordinates out - I can't possibly describe it in a reader-friendly fashion, so why bother trying with any of them?) so I was wanting to think of some hard but arbitrary rules, like 'only mention specifics when it's 2 or fewer lines'. However! I've been trying out a happy medium on my sandbox, and I think I've come up with some things. So, all I can say is, Manitoba's border won't be secret for long. :) --Golbez (talk) 17:55, 31 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geographic coordinates in entries 

message: The caption for October 2, 1895 describes "The District of Keewatin was expanded to the portion of the North-West Territories north of Ontario" with a source detaching to "The Statesman's Year-book" which itself contains no reference to any 1895 event.
Both the "The Statesman's Year-book" and the "Sessional Papers of the Dominion of Canada, Volume 46, Issue 24" provide zero evidence to support a 1895 date, with the first event being referred to by the latter source as "only being considered" with an additional confusing mention of December 18th 1897.
This seemingly fake event is baked into the source maps, suggesting the ones currently used in this article are inadequate and due for replacement.
The Statesman's Year-book: https://books.google.com/books?id=XvYb0J0DVB4C&pg=PA223
Sessional Papers of the Dominion of Canada, Volume 46, Issue 24: https://books.google.com/books?id=PLM5AQAAMAAJ&pg=RA13-PA37&lpg=RA13-PA37&dq=October+2,+1895+keewatin+extension&source=bl&ots=Z8fvYLK1dW&sig=ACfU3U3bBat200v19Mi-3N9P3lKcffCz2Q&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjsre2CseGFAxWVlYkEHQdDA80Q6AF6BAgtEAM#v=onepage&q=October%202%2C%201895%20keewatin%20extension&f=false Zed3811 (talk) 03:16, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Noted; I'm in the middle of redoing the US maps with much higher quality mapping, and after that I'll hit Canada too, and in the process I'll review the sourcing and correct/resource anything that's off. Gimme a few weeks and I'll get on this. --Golbez (talk) 02:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Keewatin and non existent events