Talk:Political correctness/Archive 5

message: Akidd_dublin pasted this section in, replacing the previous section. My and Will's sigs were placed in this section by him, not us. -- Jmabel | Talk 17:36, Feb 7, 2005 (UTC)
*adult entertainment this label is in real usage.
*consume option allows to select content at will.
*special population group shifts the focus.
:isn't the term special population, and it replaces the formerly PC term protected group? Nobs 20:09, 25 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: examples of political correctness 

message: The term Political correctness refers to the idea that there are boundaries to acceptable theories, ideas, or language. These boundaries can be set formally or informally. Formal methods include laws in totalitarian societies, mandates by groups that enforce internal political discipline (such as Marxist-Leninist cadre organizations), or government policies that specify preferred language. These boundaries also can be set informally through social customs, peer pressure, or campaigns by political or social movements.
The term most often appears in the predicate adjective form politically correct, often abbreviated PC, and is often used mockingly or disparagingly. 
Today the terms "political correctness" or "politically correct" are most often used to describe communication that uses language in a way to avoid being interpreted as offensive to anyone with respect to race, gender, religion, ideology or any other social grouping.
These are controversial terms used in different ways by various groups over time with a large distance between usage by most conservatives and progressives. Many conservatives argue there is (or was) an actual "PC movement" of liberals and leftists. Most progressives argue the idea of an actual "PC movement" was an invention of conservative critics of progressive social reforms.
The term should not be confused with the word euphemism.
====Lets discuss====
Let's start by mentioning how profoundly unfair your revert was, Sam. I tried to start a conversation here weeks ago.  No one could be bothered. Now you just revert. It is an act of censorship, not discussion.
This article is badly written and superficial. That is on top of the POV.  Even most serious conservative scholars would agree with the definition I wrote. The text of the page agrees with the definition. The Maher issue is over free speech and the limits of debate, not language. The terms "language" and "free speech" and "ideas" mean different things. The contemporary usage starts within Marxism-Leninism, and is then reversed by progressives to disparage doctrinaire thinking on the Left, and then reversed again by conservatives to describe what they see as Leftist attempts to place boundaries on language, speech, and ideas. This is an accurate NPOV usage history that complements the linguistic history already posted.
You might start by reinserting by references to the Ellen Messer-Davidow articles which you had no reason to delete.--Cberlet 15:45, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I restored the Ellen Messer-Davidow references. (Sam Spade | talk | contributions) 18:46, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: CB version 16:41, 29 Mar 2005

message: Let's start by mentioning how profoundly unfair your revert was, Sam. I tried to start a conversation here weeks ago.  No one could be bothered. Now you just revert. It is an act of censorship, not discussion.
This article is badly written and superficial. That is on top of the POV.  Even most serious conservative scholars would agree with the definition I wrote. The text of the page agrees with the definition. The Maher issue is over free speech and the limits of debate, not language. The terms "language" and "free speech" and "ideas" mean different things. The contemporary usage starts within Marxism-Leninism, and is then reversed by progressives to disparage doctrinaire thinking on the Left, and then reversed again by conservatives to describe what they see as Leftist attempts to place boundaries on language, speech, and ideas. This is an accurate NPOV usage history that complements the linguistic history already posted.
You might start by reinserting by references to the Ellen Messer-Davidow articles which you had no reason to delete.--Cberlet 15:45, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I restored the Ellen Messer-Davidow references. (Sam Spade | talk | contributions) 18:46, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Lets discuss