Talk:Phillip Hughes

message: The section of this article titled "Australian Selection" is no longer valid.  Yes, the section contains details of his selection for the Australian Test team but it has now moved on from that to detailing his Test career.  Given that he is being spoken about as being chosen for both the Australian T20 and ODI teams I will be changing this section heading to "Australian Test career" - "Australian ODI Career" and "Australian T20 career" sections can come later if required. --Perry Middlemiss (talk) 02:29, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there a need for the Australian? He hasn't and almost certainly won't play Test cricket for another country. --Jpeeling (talk) 12:19, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: True.  But... (scratches head as he searches for a way out) ...if we have the following section headers (later, of course) -"Test career", "ODI Career" and "T20 career" - we'll need a descriptor of either "Australian" or "International" on the T20 section or else we'll get confused between the international and domestic levels of the T20 game.  Actually it's probably better if I just look at Michael Clarke or Ponting for a pointer here. --Perry Middlemiss (talk) 22:42, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Section Heading 

message: In English media, I only ever see him referred to as "Phil Hughes", not "Phillip Hughes". If this is the same for Oz sources, we should move the article to Phil Hughes (cricketer), per WP:COMMONNAME.
We should then sort out some of the mess around the redirect and disambiguation between Phil and Philip and Phillip Hugheses, including a discussion about whether the baseball player currently occupying Phil Hughes really fulfils WP:PRIME. --Dweller (talk) 08:22, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, changed my mind. A quick scan of the sources in the article shows a preponderence of Phillips. The disambig and redirection mess needs some thought, though. --Dweller (talk) 08:30, 22 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed page move 

message: My attempt to access the article's first inline citation (at Fox Sports News. 22 November 2007) resulted in a "forbidden" message. Imho, this doesn't rate for WP and should be removed or at least marked "restricted to subscribers" or "dead link". I have not acted on it in case another editor has a better idea, or a more valid link. Is this player's nickname "Boofa", per the citation, or "Hughesy" per the infobox? Bjenks (talk) 05:36, 30 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Forbidden" source 

message: I have semi protected this article because the speculation on Hughes' condition including some edits saying he has died all of which violate WP:BLP please endeavour to use reliable sources, with any changes in his condition please ensure its in multiple sources first or discuss its inclusion here.  Any admin can remove the semi protection without contacting me should they choose to. Gnangarra 10:39, 25 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice work. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 18:55, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

text: Excellent idea. Perry Middlemiss (talk) 21:15, 25 November 2014 (UTC)

text: It has just been announced that Phillip Hughes has died from his injuries.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.20.20.202 (talk) 04:52, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

text: BBC has reported his death, here. The ABC has also, though it's on their blog, not their main news section.Hotchips (talk) 05:04, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

text: There is no question as to whether he has died or not, as others have noted. Apparently I'm restricted so I couldn't edit. My concern is that at this point in time the name of the bowler who delivered the ball that felled Hughes ought to be deleted. Perhaps some might view this as tantamount to 'ought to be suppressed', though that is not my intention. Rather, I request that the name be deleted out of respect for a young man who must be undergoing significant psychological trauma. While no-one in Australia would consider the bowler culpable, the one exception might be the bowler himself. I therefore request that his name be, at least temporarily, removed.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dralexian (talk • contribs) 12:50, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, that's not done here. See WP:notcensored. This issue was also already addressed/mentioned further down at Semi-protected edit request on 27 November 2014. I can understand why people want to do this, and I feel for the guy, but 'everyone' knows, and any time Hughes death is mentioned, :Sean Abbott being the bowler is almost certainly stated as well. Regards, 220 of Borg 18:19, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi protection 

message: If there's an admin watching this page, could you go over to WP:ITN/C and see if you can post the blurb and also copy his image locally, protect it and add it to the ITN template.  There's been a discussion already and I believe there is a consensus to post the item (but you should determine this independently because I participated in that discussion).  Thank you. Jehochman Talk 05:09, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  ITN - admin attention needed for a home page blurb 

message: Out of respect for Sean Abbott, it would be best if he wasn't identified as the person who bowled the bouncer. We all know it was him, and it's just completely irrelevant at this time, if not ever. I'm sure him and those close to him are going through enough at this time, this tragic incident should not be attributed to him in any way.
58.6.238.98 (talk) 08:01, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but it's not something we'd remove, unless there were BLP issues. If anything, Sean Abbott's article should be semi-protected as well. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 08:08, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 27 November 2014 

message: Is it worth mentioning the #putoutyourbats social media campaign? This has received widespread media coverage around the world. 203.9.185.136 (talk) 00:45, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I am usually very sceptical about hashtags etc, but these images are very widespread and moving. It certainly deserves a place in his article. WWGB (talk) 05:55, 28 November 2014 (UTC)

text: ITV reports that 100,000 people have taken part.  60.242.1.97 (talk) 02:25, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  #putoutyourbats 

message: Could someone please add the following edit to the article:(under the Australian international career section)Personal lifeHughes had a passion for fashion and breeding chickens—which along with cattle breeding, he planned to return to pursue on the family farm following his cricket career.I think a more personal insight is needed in the article. Cheers.58.106.224.21 (talk) 06:04, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Another addition to Personal life:A year before his death, he bought a  property in his hometown, with 70 angus cattle on it.Cheers.58.106.224.21 (talk) 06:21, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Partly reverted as unencyclopaedic. We don't require 'personal' insight.  Moondyne (talk) 09:06, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see what makes this personal insight any less encyclopedic than the info in the personal life of many other athletes and people. He deserves a personal life section that gives a bit more clarity of his love for the country and farming - at least greater than 1 sentence that just states he bought some property. Cheers to you.58.106.224.21 (talk) 13:09, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is a bad argument.  "A passion for fashion" is journalistic claptrap and innapropriate language for a encyclopedia.  Its also a copyvio from the cite given. Repeating a quote about wanting to work with dad on the farm (and who doesn't?) contravenes WP:NOTNEWS and is unnecessary in this subject's biography.  Moondyne (talk) 15:19, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

text: Just wanting to say that Hughes cattle breeding got a fairly long mention during the eulogies for him at his funeral. Perhaps more extensive sourcse will come to light to possibly allow this aspect of his life to be added in greater detail, in an encyclopaedic manner of course. I do recall it being mentioned that he intended to be a cattle 'farmer' after his cricket career.  --220 of Borg 05:49, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Could someone who's able to edit the article help 

message: Please see this discussion. Thanks. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 17:56, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Discussion has been closed and the category reverted to its former title. The person who "jumped on a bandwagon" and changed the category name without consensus is a crass, insensitive individual to say the least, IMO, and should leave WP. Jack | talk page 22:19, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Cricketers who died while playing 

message: .  I don't want this to go into the article, but the cite may be of use to someone, elsewhere.  Moondyne (talk) 08:41, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Moondyne, I've copied this source over to Talk:Subarachnoid hemorrhage#Phillip Hughes death, where I started a discussion yesterday about whether Hughes death should be included on that page as an example or 'Notable' case. I gave credit for the source to you.  --220 of Borg 11:08, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, good idea 220.  Moondyne (talk) 05:11, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks!    They had quite a 'blip' on their page views there since the accident. .--220 of Borg 05:54, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

text: And I've sent the link on to John Townsend, The West's chief cricket writer, the University Cricket Club and others. How did you find it, User:Moondyne? I found a photo of Jeffrey Gibbings too, from the front page of The Sunday Times on the day after his death, obviously before they knew what was the cause of death. http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article59350365 The-Pope (talk) 04:37, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: One of Karen Tighe guests (Sandy Gordon?) mentioned Gibbings' name on Sportstalk yesterday, so I doubt its completely unknown.  I just did a name search in Trove.  I'm glad its of use. Moondyne (talk) 05:10, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: The other similar incident 

message: Regarding this addition of two supercategories, which reverted my edits  ...
If, as User:Lugnuts asserts, "all cricketers have these parent cats", could someone please add  to :Category:Australian Test cricket centurions, :Category:Australia One Day International cricketers and  to the relevant parent category. I'm not knowledgeable enough on the subject to agree or disagree with Lugnuts' assertion - but there is a clear discrepancy between the current category inclusion and WP:SUBCAT's
that we ought to resolve. Mitch Ames (talk) 13:10, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure it's in the MOS for the cricket project, although I can't find it right now. I'll drop a note on the Project's talkpage. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 13:16, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: All cricketers have the following categories given to them, for example: Category:English cricketers, Category:Hampshire cricketers, Category:England Test cricketers, Category:England One Day International cricketers, ect, ect.  It is the WP:CRIC MOS for all cricketers, because cricket is a funny game which rates its matches according to status, so including the nationality of the cricketer is a good way of quite accurately detailing how many cricketers have played in a match of status (first-class, List A, Twenty20 + their international equivalents), such as Category:English cricketers, which has 10,611 players who played in a match of status. PinchHittingLeggy (talk) 13:56, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm okay with most of that.  What I can't figure out is whether a particular player should be a included in both "Category:English cricketers" and "Category:England Test cricketers", or just one?  I'm finding the same question coming up with cricket lists, e.g. include in "Category:Cricket-related lists" or "Category:Australian cricket lists" or both? Perry Middlemiss (talk) 21:28, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories 

message: There's been a fair amount of vandalism on the page, some of which was potentially libellous/defamatory. I've semi-protected it for a while. I'd really rather not fully protect, but happy to if needed. --Dweller (talk) 16:41, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Good move. I was puzzled as to why the protection was removed so quickly TBH. Take a look at the harmful IP edits between the two article protections. Thankfully, they've been reverted, but this will help things at least until Hughes' article goes off the main page. Lugnuts Dick Laurent is dead 18:33, 2 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi protected 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on Phillip Hughes. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20130602105038/http://www.cricket.com.au:80/teams/australia-men/the-squad/phil-hughes to http://www.cricket.com.au/teams/australia-men/the-squad/phil-hughes
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 06:37, 22 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: There are mentions of "tributes" to Phillip Hughes by various players when they reach the score of 63 (the score he was on when he received his final delivery). However I submit it is debatable these are tributes to him, but rather the score of 63 has now become "bad luck", and players are simply performing simple rituals to ward off the "bad luck", and are not tributes at all.
Thedoctor98 (talk) 09:24, 28 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tributes