Talk:Pork pie hat

message: Because a Trilby hat is different from a pork-pie hat, and because Doherty wears Trilbys (mentions them by name in his songs), I removed this:
Musician Pete Doherty has made the pork-pie hat famous in recent years.
--DavidShankBone 15:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right.  It doesn't match the ones linked to, or the description (it doesn't seem to have a flat top).  Should probably be removed, unless we can show this is indeed a pork pie hat.  TSP 02:53, 17 February 2007 (UTC)

text: And he sure as hell ain't "sporting" it! Globe199 06:46, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I replaced the image with an image that actually shows a pork pie hat. Calliopejen 01:55, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Agreed.  Pork pies can be made of straw (see :File:Poncie Ponce Hawaiian Eye 1959.JPG), but they have to have a pork pie crown or else they aren't pork pies. That one either doesn't, or certainly doesn't show it.  We should use better photos, photos which do. Andy Dingley (talk) 10:04, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Doherty

message: I am surprised that no-one has mentioned that in the Britcom 'Desmond's', there is a character whose name IS Porkpie, for the hat he wears. He even had his own show once the first series ended.
Grandma Roses 19:16, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I realize there is a bit of a tradition on Wikipedia of listing a series of cultural references that somehow relate to be topic of a given article.  That such a tradition exists does not justify its continuance, however, and I am here to stand firmly on the side of limiting the amount of trivia that gets tacked onto Wikipedia articles "just-cause-I-know-it-is-true."  That Yogi Berra wore a porkpie hat may be true— but the fact is not encyclopedic.  Buster Keaton's influence on the porkpie hat is traceable and interesting; the Puerto Rican children's television show actor's influence, however, appears to be anecdotal.  Wikipedia is not a collection of anecdotes!  Yogi Berra, along with the rest of the Hanna-Barbera cartoon characters who may or may not have worn particular kinds of hats, will have to take a backseat to Buster Keaton and Robert De Niro.  So say I.  From over here.  KDS4444Talk 11:41, 8 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no position on the encyclopedic nature of persons who do or don't wear a hat.  However, it is important to note that Yogi_Berra is a person, and Yogi_Bear was a Hanna-Barbera_Productions cartoon character (and in fact their respective pages caution against confusing the two).
Most of these others were famous for wearing pork pie hats, whereas Keaton usually wore a boater.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.128.53.226 (talk) 08:33, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another reference to porkpie in popular culture 

message: We've been having these minor and stupid vandalisations at nearly all the hat articles. If Salvio does not bring it to ANI, I will. Fair warning. Djathinkimacowboy 21:57, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warning 

message: There's an image of a crowd wearing pork pie hats in the article about Time Square. I'm not a 100% sure if they really are pork pie hats but it does look like it. Just thought it would fit in this article. The reason why I'm writing on this talk page is I don't know how to add the image myself. Eestimees94 (talk) 09:00, 9 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  An image of a crowd wearing pork pie hats in another article 

message: Would love to contribute to this article by adding a little more about the origins of the Pork-Pie Hat in western fashion! The Dictionary of Fashion History cites the pork-pie hat as an article of womenswear, popularised in the 1860s, described thusly “A hat with a low, flat crown or straw or velvet, with a narrow brim turned up close all round.” (Cumming, Cunnington, and Cunnington, 2010, p.213). Further, The Encyclopaedia Britannica offers great description of the style, and reference to similarly shaped styles worn in Europe during the Middle Ages. Important descriptions ascribed to objects held in the collections of the V&A (London) could also be referred to. Many thanks! Diary of a Dress Historian (talk) 14:55, 19 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition of content to article 

message: two of the most important associations are musicians Thelonious Monk, who is likely responsible for Tom Waits'wearing this style, and saxophonist Lester Young. Charles Mingus' composition 'Goodbye, Pork Pie Hat' is dedicated to him. 2601:603:4E00:1A10:58B7:9412:9C9D:1B3C (talk) 00:34, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  contemporary associations