Talk:Brady Quinn

message: "Overall, as a starter, Brady is 29-17 (.630) against all opponents and 13-15 (.460) against teams that finished the year with non-losing records."
This stat is not kept for any other players; and it is not kept officially anywhere.  The article could go on forever slicing and dicing records to make whatever particular point someone wants to make.  It doesn't belong here as it is not an encyclopedic piece of informaiton. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Red375 (talk • contribs) 17:52, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Record versus various types of teams 

message: On other players' pages, it says whether they won or lost their bowl games. Should I do that here, or is there some reason not to?SuperToad64 18:16, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Bowl games is simply an undefined statistic--needs a section if to be of value.  Would you care to write a section which summarizes the who, when, where and maybe the why of these Bowl loses?  That is what is needed to make this worthwhile.  (For example, the 41-14 drubbing by LSU in the Sugarbowl was the same punishment that The Ohio State suffered last night from FL.)  The way it was, there weren't even any links which could be followed to find out more information--I always feel that it is important to give them a little teaser and a link for more information.  Take care,  Larry  Lmcelhiney 19:37, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bowl games Won/Lost 

message: I don't know if this section should be included at all, but I'll fix it up anyway.  All of Notre Dame's rivals should be there as stated in this article, also, Brady only played a few series against Michigan and Michigan State his freshman year as shown here and here, so those games shouldn't be counted.  Just my two cents.  Phydend 04:46, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, Wrote a response and failed to save it! :-)  I agree with your additions, however, "*" might be worthwhile for those two Frosh games to preclude questions.  Thanks for help! Lmcelhiney 05:06, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rivalry Games Record 

message: We might want to improve this article by providing:
*2006 record, since the regular season is over
*more of the wealth of stats listed on the Offical ND site Bio
Lmcelhiney 13:52, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official ND Bio  

message: This article was very disjointed and poorly written.  It jumped around with time references and was almost incoherant to read.  There was more than one sentence that literally made no sense as written.
I cleaned up the article a little bit to make it at least make sense and have some semblence of order.  I think its still in bad need of some revision. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.210.107.101 (talk) 03:33, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaned up 

message: Brady Quinn has stated as fact that he would like to play for the Cleveland Browns and I put that in this article earlier. It was reported on Sportscenter for 2 days straight now. I don't know who deleted that info but they shouldn't have.
If you have a citation for that information, then add the information and the citation.  Just hearing it doesn't make it citable.
Lmcelhiney 01:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleveland Browns

message: I cleaned up the language AGAIN... I don't know what's going on here, but it sounds like 10 year olds are adding the info.  The information itself is good - but when you're writing articles for a work of an informational database, you have to have some more technical writing.
Saying things like "had a pretty good season" is pretty poor writing.  If you're going to add things to the article, please make an effort to be more proficient.GambitMG
Someone put "excellent" season before that, which would not be true at all seeing his recent performance at the Sugar Bowl. Recent polls on ESPN also show he is trailing both JaMarcus Russell and Troy Smith on the question of "Who would you rather draft?". Besides, a statistically impressive season is different from a successful one. What is the point of putting that? He can have great statistics but floundering in the big game is what people remember. I'm a Philadelphia Eagles fan. Trust me. Statistically impressive means nothing. --69.139.66.80 05:52, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revised again 

message: Notre Dame has two, and by two I mean TWO rivals. They are: USC and Michigan. Not Purdue, not Navy, not MSU, not Pitt, and not Penn State. GoIrish24 23:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rivals 

message: I edited this and added "TBA", since it sounds better than "unknown", if everyone's okay with this. GoIrish24 23:02, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Succeeded by 

message: Also, Brady's real name is spelled Braden, not Brayden. GoIrish24 23:33, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not according to the University.  Feel free to look him up in their directory (purposely not linked). -- KelleyCook 19:18, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brady's name 

message: We need a photo for the top of this article!  Please do not move the SI cover from below as it ties with the text there.
Anyone willing to part with a personal photo from the playing field?  Lmcelhiney 18:28, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo Needed 

message: We HAD a photo on this article... who the hell deleted it?
::22:57, 7 January 2007 ShadowJester07 (Talk | contribs) (RM Copy Vio Image) 
::Lmcelhiney 00:37, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Pardon my french but what the f&*$%&???????  I put the image back - so just leave it in there this time... WTF.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.250.23.91 (talk) 09:17, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe that the licensing was listed as Fair Use, but there was no rationale listed for why it was Fair Use.Lmcelhiney 11:01, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What else would the picture be labeled?  Does it really matter that much? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.250.23.91 (talk) 08:41, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uhhhh... 

message: I just cleaned up the first part of the article, because of the dregs left over from preveious edit swaps.  Too much redundancy existed.  I recommend removal of the Personal Information section unless it is significantly enhanced.  Currently it has only two pieces of information and they exist in other areas of the article (Info Box) , etc.
Larry
Lmcelhiney 13:38, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaned up first part of article. 

message: We've had a lot of edit-counter edit in this article regarding the negative side of Quinn's records in rivalry games and bowl games.  I would like to propose that we create a balanced paragraph which offers both sides of his ND record without concentrating on the pros or the cons.  For example, the team's performance in rivalry and bowl games, plus the marked improvement in performance during 2006.  (Also, Quinn's ND records broken.)
Overall, this article needs more expansion so that neither positive nor negative records have such a weight.
Let's discuss it here if there is interest.
Thanks,
Larry
Lmcelhiney 13:43, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to balance negative records with positive records? 

message: I listed that he will be drafted in round 1 in his infobox. This isn't debatable and please don't change it. It's an absolute lock that he'll go in the first round. Where he goes shall be determined later.--MP123 04:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hah "not debatable"? He almost made it to round 2.--E tac 08:52, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: NFL Draft

message: Why did my contribution get deleted? Is that not part of his personal life? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DevireCui (talk • contribs) 06:13, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want to add such information, you're going to have to re-add it with a citation. See WP:Cite. --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk   06:23, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I disagree. Information on a person's personal life is certainly relevant, and imposing a requirement that link be "legal" in some way is absurd. Were this true, would we not provide information regarding someone who is living with another person (say for 5 years) because it is not a legal union?--tortdog 16:00, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  His girlfriend 

message: Brady Quinn is related to the Assistant Coach of the Kent State Golden Flashes J.D. Lumley. The two are cousins and are extremely close and they continue everyday to either talk by phone or email.
131.123.48.77 05:42, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brady Quinns Cousin 

message: I've taken the liberty of completely revising and rewriting the article complete with sources for every statement that needed to be sourced. Feel free to adjust anything you think needs adjusting. I think the article may just be a Good Article now. We'll see. Wlmaltby3 – talk/contribs 04:01, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you may need to add a publisher to some of the refs. When I first sent a GA request for Rex Grossman, an editor failed it for references, because I only had the page's title and accessdate. I added the publisher, something like chicagobears.com, or espn.cpm to every reference, and the following reviewer eventually passed it. If you're up for correcting it, I'll give you hand. --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk   07:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article completely revised 

message: The article states that Brady Quinn "once again finished fourth in the Heisman Trophy balloting" in 2006, but he actually finished third.  (Source: http://www.heisman.com/sports/m-footbl/spec-rel/120906aaa.html)  I am unable to edit this article myself...can someone who has permission do it?  (Blink6 00:14, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed the error and changed the reference to your source there. The source whoever added wasn't about Heisman voting, but had Brady fourth behind Troy Smith, Colt Brennan, and Steve Slaton. Phydend 01:13, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  He finished third, not fourth, in Heisman voting 

message: I think that instead of the image here, this image , from the same Flickr user, taken at the same event and under the same license; adds more to the article as it is a 'headshot' of Brady Quinn instead of one of his whole body looking the wrong way. I feel that this should replace the image on the Brady Quinn page, but don't know how to upload the image as a replacement.
:He looks like he's having a heart-attack in the photo; likely induced by an excess amount of joy :-p We'll be able to find better images of Quinn once the actual season starts --  ShadowJester07  ►Talk   19:25, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Replacing the image with a better, though similar shot 

message: Hi., i reviewed the article and wanted the nom's feedback before i proceed further. I think the article does not pass the stability test for 2 reasons:
1. The player in question has entered professional career and the information in this wikipage is likely to move into a daughter page related to his "high school and college" career before the end of his first full season.
2. The page has been subject to repeat vandal attacks over the last couple of months. I could could atleast a dozen since May 15. 
I need these your thoughts on these two comments before i proceed further. --Kalyan 08:46, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Passing comment - I don't believe instability due to normal vandalism (as opposed to edit wars or content disputes) is a criterion for failure. Reason being, it would then be easy to cause any article to fail through anonymous vandalism. It would also be impossible to get articles on pretty much anyone really famous through GA. 4u1e 08:55, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: From past experience, I guess it depends on the reviewer. The Ben Roethlisberger was up for a GA review back then, though it failed on the account that there was too much vandalism. However, the Michael Jordan article reached GA, and even FA status despite the fact it was getting vandalized nearly twenty times every day. If you think this article's vandalism issues are bad now, I hate to see  what you will think when the actual season starts, and Quinn makes headlines of sorts ;) :p. --►ShadowJester07  09:15, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA review comments 

message: Based on the above discussion, i am OK with going thru GA for the article:
* Lead section is way too small. Needs atleast a mention of his high school career, his rise in star-status after the arrival of Charlie Weis in ND, slide in 2007 NFL Draft (article has a small para on his slide on draft day!)
* Personal section: What is the profession of his dad and mom. Any other siblings - if so, name them. I thought i read news reports of his girl-friend being in the green room during the draft. If so, atleast name her (no need for wikilink, if one doesn't exist)
* "Brady was also named an All-Conference player in baseball as a junior and lettered three times.[1] He was also a member of Young Life, the Rock Solid Club and Who's Who Among America High School Students.[1]" - the first link is redundant as two sentences are refering to the same weblink. Remove the first weblink.
* First para in College career refers to Reference [1]. Why repeat it at the end of every line? Add it once at the end of the para
* There were ten career records, twelve single-season records, four single-game records and ten miscellaneous records broken by Brady throughout those four years" - needs copyedit
* "In 2005 , under the supervision of Notre Dame's new head coach Charlie Weis, formerly of the New England Patriots, Brady blossomed as a starting quarterback" -  It is not clear that Charlie joined in 2005 from NEP. That needs to be explicit. Also, words like "blossomed" can be best avoided.
* "Quinn was named to the 2005 AP All-America Team as a third-team quarterback[6] and the 2006 SI.com All-American Team as a second-team quarterback.[7]" - this para refers to 2005 season and hence it is inappropriate to add reference to 2006 SI AA team here. unless SI releases the list before the start of season. In that case, the same needs to be mentioned.
* "in which the Irish lost 47-21[11] and USC Trojans on November 25, 2006 in which the Irish lost 24-44.[12]" - maintain consistency in the scores. 
* "Quinn finished the season with 3,426 yards on 289 completions out of 467 attempts for a completion percentage of 61.9% and 7.34 yards-per-attempt.[15] He threw 37 touchdowns to only 7 interceptions, and was sacked 31 times.[15] Brady finished the regular season with a passing efficiency rating of 146.65,[15] which " - avoid single source, multiple referencing in the same para
* Quinn posted rather impressive numbers. " - POV. Also, it violates Show, don't tell policy. Remove the phrase.
* "where the team would face off against the LSU Tigers" - needs copyedit. refers to a past event in future tense (most likely, sentence written when Sugal bowl was announced and no change made to the sentence on the completion of the event)
* "Quinn's poor performance in the Sugar Bowl mirrored that of the performance Troy Smith had in the 2007 BCS National Championship Game for the Ohio State Buckeyes." - please explain why the reference to Troy Smith is relevant here. This sentence needs to be removed/modified without Troy Smith
* "Following the 2006 season, Quinn won several awards," - weren't these announcement before the sugar bowl. If so, can you move the para before Sugar bowl para.
* "Following the draft, Quinn was lambasted by " - criticized might be a better word than lambasted
* Stats - can you move this to the college section?
* "Coming into the draft Quinn was considered to be one of the top players in the country and was invited to attend the draft. Before the draft started, the NFL Draft, labelled Quinn as a "franchise quarterback in the mold of Carson Palmer."[24] He was projected to be picked in the top ten and even could have been the number one overall pick.[25][26][27]"  - i think this is an understatement, after the 2006 NFL draft, most of the analysts picked brady quinn as the no. 1 pick of 2007. In fact, Football Outsiders has termed the No. 1 pick in 2007 as "Quest for Quinn" in their yearly ProFootball Prospectus 2006. I think the same needs to come out in the article
* "Wasting no time," - can't be proven and not relevant to the article?
Please leave a note on my talk page once you address these comments. --Kalyan 07:45, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually forgot I nommed this, I'll look over the suggestions and let you know when they're finished. Wizardman 16:01, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA review comments 

message: Brady Quinn has not even signed a pro contract yet. His NFL debut may not be until 2008. To acquire a debut a player must have a GP (games played) in a regular season game. If Brady Quinn gets no playing time in 2007 then he does not have a 2007 debut.
:Good Eye. --ShadowJester07 ► Talk  19:47, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur. --ZimZalaBim talk 02:07, 7 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Stating the obvious. He may not even play for the team that drafted him. It is possible. --tortdog 13:00, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NFL Debut 

message: The statement, 'Following his career at Notre Dame, Quinn was touted as the "quarterback who helped restore the Irish back to respectability" is referenced with the following story: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16462166/
However, after viewing this story, it does not state anyehere that Quinn brought his team back to respectability, nor does it say that Notre Dame had NOT been respectable prior to his arrival.  
This is a an ungrounded, biased statement that lacks credibility and should be removed from the article.  That is certainly not how people describe him, unless they root against Notre Dame.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:Contributions/{
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:Yes the article does. The paragraph states:
"Quinn, who won the Johnny Unitas Golden Arm Award given to the nation’s top senior quarterback, finishes his career with 36 Notre Dame records and will be remembered as the quarterback who helped restore the Irish back to respectability."
It might be a little biased (I don't think it really is, it just says he was touted as such), but it is sourced. Phydend 16:35, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The current formulation that he was "touted" to have brought the program to respectability is accurate and sufficient. --ZimZalaBim talk 16:39, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncited statement about "quarterback who helped restore the Irish back to respectability" 

message: I added a part linking to Derek Anderson, but it goes to the basketball player's page. Can't figure out how to link to the football players page. I tried  [[Derek Anderson (football player) | Derek Anderson  but that doesn't do anything. Help! NyyDave 15:13, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's Derek Anderson. Most football players that have the same name as someone else will be in this format. I fixed it in the article. Phydend 15:22, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I see, thank you!NyyDave 15:23, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linking to Derek Anderson 

message: This article is a classic example of recentism, where every single detail of recent events were recorded. They simply aren't necessary to create a biographic encyclopedia article. I've trimmed, and the current article provides the necessary information and context about Quinn. --ZimZalaBim talk 13:52, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trimmed 

message: Brady Quinn will be listed at 6'4" on this article. He measured in at 6'3 3/4" at the NFL Combine.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by MP123 (talk • contribs) 03:59, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Height 

message: The added section pertaining to Brady Quinn's alleged "confrontation" with a group of gay men in Columbus is a violation of copyright, as the content was lifted verbatim from the Detroit Free Press article here (not to mention the fact that whomever added it failed to close the REF tag, thus breaking the remainder of the page).
Given that neither the police nor the Cleveland Browns uncovered any evidence that the allegations were true (see follow-up articles here and here, and that the so-called incident has failed to achieve any traction in subsequent news cycles, it strikes me as an insignificant matter not worthy of inclusion in the article, unless Quinn begins exhibiting a pattern of homophobic behavior.
I think it's fair to say that it's simply a case that she protests too much.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.232.6 (talk) 17:42, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Anti-Gay" Controversy 

message: QUINN BRAYDEN T
32388 REGENCY CT
AVON LAKE OH 44012 
Can be confirmed on the website of the Lorain County Auditor.
Michiganbuckeye (talk) 02:30, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that appears to confirm that he owns a home there. But it doesn't verify that he lives there during the season. --ZimZalaBim talk 02:55, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A simple re-wording of that section should make both sides happy. JohnnySeoul (talk) 14:27, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation for Home In Avon Lake Ohio 

message: The table of college stats appears to be missing data concerning fumbles. It is impossible to believe that a quarterback could start for 4 years at a major college and never fumble once. I saw him fumble in the 2006 Michigan game. What's the source of those stats? Hanksummers (talk) 21:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: College stats table re fumbles

message: 'Thought to be the future husband of Haley Clark, the girl used to bright lights and a city that never sleeps, Brady Quinn has been forced to recover from his recent season-ending injury alone. While he expected his future wife Haley to nurse him back to health, she recently was charmed by another contender for the "Best of the Midwest." This hard-working, slighty dorky, movie-buff rivaled Brady in his devastating good looks, and far exceeded him in wit and ability to make Haley smile for hours. While Haley will still be cheering on number 10 and the Cleveland Browns as they start fresh this September, she is rumoured to be sitting in the sidelines with this new, irresistable catch. Brady is not upset by this abrupt change. and noblely stated, in true Browns fashion: "There's always next year!"'  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.138.8.1 (talk) 16:41, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Crushes 

message: The section "personal life" is one of the worst "sections" of a wikipedia article I have seen in a while.  There are three disconnected sentences strung together with no relation to each other at all.  I'm going to move the sentence about what he graduated with under college, where such a sentence would logically belong.  Beyond that I'm going to go ahead and delete the other two sentences.  Who cares at all that he's the second cousin of  the kid on home improvement?  That's just incredibly pointless and insignificant information and really even if it could be woven into another section there's just no reason to even mention it.  The kid from home improvement isn't noteworthy on his own right and even if he was a celebrity, Quinn being his second cousin is still throwaway information that doesn't have any significance for the subject of the article.  If he was an actor and his second cousin got him an audition maybe that would be different, but this whole desire to put in every last insignificant trivial detail into a wikipedia article just makes for really bad articles.  That is especially true when it isn't connected to anything else and is a stand alone sentence.  The fact that he is dating this other girl could be significant if there was a more developed personal history section, but there isn't.  It just makes no sense to have a section with the only sentence being he's dating some girl.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jdlund (talk • contribs) 15:57, 2 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Life Section 

message: Recently a revert war was on the verge of erupting between myself and Chrisjnelson regarding Quinn's position on the Bronco's depth chart.  I am content with the present language, which states (factually) that Quinn began the season (which is to say, participated in the opener against Jacksonville) as the designated third quarterback, behind Tim Tebow.  Having said that, it is far too early to make a sweeping declaration that Quinn has lost the backup quarterback position to Tebow.  Coach McDaniels has been abundantly clear that the competition is still open and the position of "backup" will vary from week-to-week, depending upon the game plan.  Furthermore, as of Friday, September 17, 2010, the official team depth chart still lists Quinn as the #2.
Additionally, to avoid confusion going forward, be aware that the so-called "emergency" QB in the NFL is a designation given only to a player who is not on the team's weekly 45-man active roster.  There is no rule preventing a team from keeping three active QBs and using any or all of them at will during the course of a game. — Trowbridge (talk) 19:58, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broncos depth chart 

message: on Deadliest catch, the captian of the wizard hires someone named Brady quinn to the boat. is it possible that they're the same? 
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