Talk:Beer Bad

message: I don't think the moral of this ep is "beer and sex are bad."  If there is a 'moral', so to speak, it is that excessive behavior is irresponsible.  (Buffy is trying to, as the saying goes, "drink her problems away".)  It's not "don't do it", it's "be careful".  I think this article's writeup is far too slanted and subjective.  I would like to rewrite it, but I'll come back to it later. -- Che Nuevara
Indeed, there was the same problem on the Teacher's Pet page, which I have modified (IMHO the message of TP is not "sex is bad" or "it's great to be a virgin", but "peer pressure is bad"). Flagboy 13:26, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that this page is not NPOV.  Jwolfe 14:53, 7 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moral 

message: There has been some complaint about this article but i see no reason to change it. Most people do consider it one of the worst episode in the series. And yes, the morale is "don't drink underage" and yes it does get worse when it is seen from other countries. To deny the crapyness of this episode would in itself be POV.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.5.42.155 (talk • contribs) 15:50, 16 August 2006  (UTC)
: Wikipedia editors are not allowed to express any point of view in articles. We are obligated to source our material, so if opinions are expressed, they must come from published, reliable sources. Only then should we worry about NPOV. The "International response" section was chatty in tone and drew unsourced conclusions, so I removed it. (Its statements about drinking ages are potentially sourceable, but they are irrelevant to the subject — the international response to this Buffy episode — unless some publication actually talked about this.) ~ Jeff Q (talk) 16:41, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've added back in the generally negative reception this episode received, this time with sources. Kweeket 06:04, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Buffy405.jpg

message: I think it's noteable that Xander locked the temporarily-nuts student into some completely random vehicle...I added this in but it was reverted. Lots42 (talk) 09:28, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Van 

message: : A BBC reviewer complained about its "American puritanism" ....
The link was recently disambiguated to Religious fanaticism (which is largely about violence).  Of course the temperance movement – and American small-p "puritanism" in general – had religious roots, but there's nothing overtly religious in the episode (that I recall).  Is there no more appropriate link?  —Tamfang (talk) 23:08, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  puritanism 

message: It states in several articles that vampires do not appear in this episode. However buffy's day dream sequence at the begining of this episode shows her fighting several vampires. Shouldn't this epidsode be removed from the list of episdoes where vampires dont appear as a result?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.91.195.5 (talk) 07:14, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vampire apperance 

message: The statement that some fans consider this episode to be the "worst" is biased and DOES NOT come from a reliable media source.  It comes from a random TV reviewer with no ties to any verifiable media outlets or renowned entertainment critics.  I am therefore removing it and any resulting disputes will be referred to moderation. Writerchic99 (talk) 23:05, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually the random review referenced in the article might be the worst I've ever read. The reviewer makes two main points and both of them are invalid. Firstly, he claims that the episode fails in attributing bad effects to drinking. There might have been an attempt to get money from the government by asserting there was such a message, but the episode as it stands on its own tries not show any harmful consequences of people being drunk. It cannot fail in something it hasn't tried to do. Secondly, he is objecting the cavemen being stupid because it contradicts his personal religious belief that men where created as intelligent as modern humans by some god. I hope I don't have to explain why this point is preposterous. At least there is a claim in the beginning of the review that could be interesting for the article: "BBC viewers voted this episode as the worst ever.", though this cannot be verified directly since the voting is defunct. Thank you for reading this review of a review.--Hurfunkel (talk) 21:45, 10 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Really worst episode?

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