Talk:Perkele

message: I have removed the following stringly POV comments from the article:
:'Perkele Satan' is a common expression used to expres piss offedness. However, this is just a pure anger expression. I am finnish and knew nothing about thunder gods and swedish priests and crap adopting this and turning our wonderful gods into satanistic worshipping people. So, I don't quite see how you can put so much history and stuff into a simple word that is really only the finnish equal of 'God Damnit!!'. God damn the people who turned this fine finnish expression into the material of a dictionary.
-- The Anome 22:43, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments removed 

message: Ilmarinen is the most accepted pre-Christian god of the weather, and also appears as a character in the Kalevala.  In common usage P***** is just a swear word.  I would like to see some proof or citations to back up the claims about P***** being also a name of a God.  A Finnish/English dictionary will give the definition of the word and derivatives as having to do with hell or damnation, but also the devil.
:It is widely thought that Ilmarinen was originally a god of sky (like Inmar is a sky god of some other Fenno-Ugric speakers) but then a new god of sky, Perkele (that was an influence from corded ware culture) took his place. Ilmarinen did not cease, but was transformed into a human hero like he is in Kalevala. Surely there is no folk runes telling that perkele is a god, because while runes were collected Perkele had already been stamped as satan for hundreds of years. 193.65.112.51 15:55, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ilmarinen is the god of the sky 

message: Does Scandinavia and the World webcomic need to be in this topic, it seems as though its a shameless plug and might be considered free advertising 114.198.91.63 (talk) 12:13, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I'm not sure it's notable enough to warrant mention in the article - but that's also true of most material I notice in "In popular culture" sections on Wikipedia. V2Blast (talk) 21:42, 1 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular culture section 

message: Management_by_perkele used to be a good article, as I mentioned here Talk:Management_by_perkele.  
"Old version is better and still popular as a quoted google search result: " Management by perkele is originally a Swedish expression for a Finnish leadership approach that, according to its proponents, takes required actions in a quick and swift way, instead of a prolonged pondering of all possible alternative approaches and points of view before actually getting anything done. This is specifically contrasted to the Swedish consensus decision-making, where the manager makes sure that everyone involved has been heard before decisions are taken. The name is derived from the well-known Finnish swear word perkele, and it is a reference to the repeated times this word is yelled by the top managers. "
It now redirects to Finnish_profanity.  I think it would be better if it redirected here: Perkele and that the above, or something similar, perhaps citeable, was included in this article. Mathiastck (talk) 21:31, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Management by Perkele