Talk:Link (The Legend of Zelda)/Archive 3

message: If you play through New Game + on Wind Waker, The king of red lions clearly states that this game's Link is NOT a reincarnation of the Hero of Time, or therefore any other legendary heros. As this would seperate his character from Link in the rest of the series, should we make note of it?
:Not unless you can find verification for this because it is extremely hard to know if this is true. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 01:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wind Waker is easy and boring.  It's a push over.  Not an actual Zelda game because he isn't related to Zelda, Hyrule, Master sword or anything. 2-9-07 Electricman —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Elecricman (talk • contribs) 22:22, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wind Waker Link

message: I don't like it, but fine. I'll concede the argument. But, I won't, however stop editing and let changes be made that I disagree with. Therefore, I removed the part in the intro where it said 'Link had a close but un-romantic relationship to Princess Zelda' and changed it to 'Link had a close relationship with Princess Zelda'. I did so because you can't say what their relationship is. It is never explicitivley stated, so anything else wouls merely be opinion.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.114.111.187 (talk) 
This seems like as good a spot as any to note changes while we're whipping this article back into FA shape, so: I've put the "a peculiarity of the character" paragraph back in the intro with some alterations.  We need a cite for Miyamoto confirming the many Links of the series, but I think it's pretty important to esablish that there are several from the start.
Also, I think the games section did better with sections.  Right now it's a big old block of text.  I also think that the section might be better off titled "Incarnations within the games" or something along those lines to help prevent the "storycruft" from previous versions. --Sparky Lurkdragon 13:05, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No worries. This article needs a lot of help, so continuing updates on how it looks are very helpful. Judgesurreal777 05:20, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's starting to shape up now.  Nice work! Sraan 17:56, 24 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Looks good, go ahead and add it :) Judgesurreal777 19:59, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it'd be best if someone else did it -- I don't wanna screw up the wording... :P 67.123.110.70 06:31, 6 October 2006 (UTC)

text: The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the debate was move to Link (The Legend of Zelda) — Mets501  (talk)  18:37, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New edits

message: Doesn't Link go between 13 and 20 in the Ocarina of Time?  I mention this because the intro says he is protrayed between 7 and 18, which doesn't fit the upper bound. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.98.160.165 (talk • contribs) .
:His exact ages are unknown, but that range is where most of the speculation is. Jaxad0127 16:36, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh, says who? Is this official canon for every game? When is he 10? When is he 17? Has this been stated by an official source? -- Digital Watches! 23:20, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What is stated in the lead links to a reference where the creature, Shigeru Miyamoto, says he is 7-8 in Ocarina of Time. the uppward bound I did not mention I don't think...Judgesurreal777 00:02, 4 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Link's age is never specified; this is all original research. See WP:OR. Haipa Doragon (talk) 17:21, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Age of Link

message: The character we call link is named by the player in every game.  This article does not discuss where the name link came from, or how it became the common reference to the character. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ikanreed (talk • contribs) .
:You get to name your saved game files, but those names are never used in the games themselves, at least not the early ones. I've read somewhere that Miyamoto chose the name Link because the character was the player's link to the game world. Not sure if this is true or just fan speculation, though. I do think that any official information on this should be added if it exists. — BrianSmithson 22:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: that's how Link is written in romaji. 67.164.35.55 06:35, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

text: ...They're saying that Link is the default name, not that it is the only name.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 15:26, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of the name

message: I think I distinctly remember Link in my pirated OOA. Early in the game, when asked to push a really  big rock aside, Link says something like "I can't do it" or something. Of course I sold the game for LTTP because the damned thing wouldn't actually remember its own save files after five seconds, so I cant confirm...
-Purple Pikmin —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Purple Pikmin (talk • contribs) .
:I just replayed that part, it's actually Impa who says that. Axem Titanium 23:54, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That was Zelda. --Sparky Lurkdragon 00:07, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No Dialouge?

message: In The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii version only) he is right handed!!!!! Frankyboy5 02:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Great. The article already knows. Axem Titanium 02:55, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And if you go off the almighty "flip the sprite when it faces left" rule, he's right-handed in Zelda II as well. Now I see why people said it wasn't a true Zelda game ^__^ --ReloadPsi 14:01, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ambidexrous 

message: The article is still FA. Weeeeee! Renmiri 03:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wooohooo, we did it!!!! 

message: "The character's first appearance took place in the 1986 video game The Legend of Zelda, where it was portrayed by a two-dimensional sprite; in later releases Link's appearance has been conveyed by a computer-generated image (CGI)."
Wait, in Zelda II and ALttP, not to mention MC, FSA, OoS, and OoA, wasn't Link protrayed by a 2D sprite? And aren't all Links made by CGI? It's not link The Legend of Zelda was drawn on paper. Scepia 19:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  2D ---> 3D 

message: The article states that link is left-handed except in the Wii version of Twillight Princess, which is true EXCEPT for a graphical glitch in the game A Link to the Past, in which he appeared right-handed when facing right. Should that be mentioned?
KLink-NiN10col/Neotendo123 00:27, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure the thing about Link being right handed in the Wii version should be mentioned either since it's so trivial, just like the memory saving technique that they used in ALttP so he would be right-handed when facing a certain direction (they flip the sprite to save space on the cartridge). I think that stuff should just be moved to the individual game articles. Axem Titanium 15:01, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point. I'll edit the other articles if it's not already there, but leave the fact in here. Why not. -KLink/NiN10col/Neotendo123 02:15, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm looking for a source for the old in-universe explanation for the sprite flipping, in that Link always keeps his shield towards death mountain and as such swaps hands when facing east.  I -think- it was stated in the old Link to the Past players guide, but as I no longer have access to it, can't check.  Could someone look for me, if you have it? Fieari 03:30, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Though I do not have it in my possession, I do recall reading that in the same guide.  I'm near positive that you are correct in the origin of this explanation. Justin The Claw 12:48, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not that trivial, really.  If you've ever tried to make a game, it's easier to make a sprite facing one way (for instance, left), then simply mirror it.  So, if Link was holding his sword in his left hand, and your mirror it, he's suddenly holding it in his right.  Hope that helps clear up some of the confusion.  Kuro Yoake 02:38, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Left-Handed/Right-Handed 

message: The first sentence in the article states that Link is a flaming homosexual.  Why hasn't anyone else addressed this?  Where is it written or said that Link is homosexual?  Not that I have anything against homosexuals, but the individuals responsible for this article should remove such a remark considering it has no basis for being stated.  
signed,
Aaron Ni. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.184.116.55 (talk) 23:25, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was vandalism by a blocked user. You can fix it yourself by clicking the "edit this page" tab at the top, although it seems to be already done. Axem Titanium 00:40, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  the first line of the article 

message: I just had to delete a line of vandalism where someone had added...
== Headline text ==
LINK IS AWSOME.. 
...in the middle of the Actor portrayal section.  Seriously people... Is nothing sacred anymore?
:Thanks for your help. Keep up the good work. Unfortunately, there are a lot of lost souls get some sort of sick pleasure from vandalizing Wikipedia. It's the same with telemarketers and people who send spam messages by e-mail. Axem Titanium 20:23, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: The wikiproject dogs banner was removed because (rv not a dog?)
I belive the person who put it there meant his werewolf form. Should that be placed here or on the TP page?
-KLink/NiN10col/Neotendo123 16:27, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was removed because his wolf form is so tangentially related to his character that it amounts to nothing at all. Axem Titanium 22:41, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dog or not? 

message: The footnote after this text:
:Also, some of Link's weapons and items have shown up in different games, such as the Master Sword appearing in Final Fantasy Tactics Advance and Animal Crossing. He is also parodied in World of Warcraft as a gnome named Linken.
is highly unuseful, as it ONLY references Link's appearance in Final Fantasy Tactics Advance. No mention of his appearance in WoW or Animal Crossing is mentioned here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Todfox (talk • contribs) 22:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad footnote in cameo section 

message: Wouldn't it make things simpler if this section was divided into the titles themselves rather than the vague time periods in which each one was released? What is it that distinguishes each of these time periods from each other anyway? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by A gx7 (talk • contribs) 05:12, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears to be organized by system. The first section is for NES and SNES (with a little of the Original Game Boy too). The second is for N64 and Game Boy Color. The third is Gamecube and the rest. Axem Titanium 05:42, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video game appearances  

message: Could someone please explain how this is irrelevant? Not only is it verifiable, it also aids users with a proper context about this section. Jhamez84 15:02, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: please check out this. thanks! Scepia 21:53, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apparent Irrelevance 

message: what the page name should be is not Link (character) or Link (The Legend of Zelda), but Link (The Legend of Zelda series). with the current name, people may be lead to believe that the page is only about the first game in the series, The Legend of Zelda. in fact, this page encompasses all of Link's appearances, in every game in the SERIES. Scepia 21:49, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Reading the first sentence will tell any reader that this is about a character in a series, not a single game.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 08:01, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it was already discussed earlier (maybe on the Princess Zelda page) that (The Legend of Zelda series) is too long a name to type out.  The way that it is now works perfectly, and the article's pretty clear in telling you that this is all the Links in the series, not just one.  Kuro Yoake 11:30, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: the page name needs to speak for itself. example: if I sent you a link to railroad, you would expect that the page is about railroads, not frilly pink lampshades. do you see the point? I don't care how long it is... the only name is The Legend of Zelda series. Scepia 05:36, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Most people looking for this character will almost always just type Link, and even the disambiguation page says the name refers to the character in the series.  -SaturnYoshi THE VOICES 09:03, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: so... why should the pagename be inaccurate? it really doesn't matter how long it is. we are an encyclopedia, not a lazy fansite. Scepia 03:56, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

text: We need to get a consensus first, although obviously the correct name has series on it *cough cough*. I'm telling everyone, he did not appear just in the first game, he appeared in every game in the series! Should the pagename be Link (Ocarina of Time), simply because he appeared in that game? Scepia 22:36, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  page name 

message: Not that I'm argueing the point, we all know it is, but in all of the Zelda games I've played you have the option of setting the character's name to whatever you want. Is it just stated in the manuals? Because I don't think he's ever referred to directly as Link in any of the games. So where is it ever pinned down that his name is Link? --SeizureDog 14:29, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In all of the games, the default name is "Link," but that wouldn't be a very good source, would it?  In the Twilight Princess manual, however (which I have right in front of me), it says this:
"Among the villagers is a boy known as the most skillful rider in all the land.  A boy who, it is expected, will one day take over the responsibility of leading Ordon as the village chief.  His name is Link..."  Throughout the rest of the manual, though, it refers to the character as "you", but it does call him Link, so there ya go.  Kuro YoakeSpeak to me!! 15:14, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Checking your theory: Legend of Zelda, Ocarina of Time, and Oracle of Ages (the three Zeldas I own) have no default names whatsoever. The name entry starts off blank and you have you type it in from there. In any case, his name had obviously been set by Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, but is his name anywhere for the first Zelda?--SeizureDog 23:03, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Leave the game running at the title screen and it gives you an intro narrative. His name is in there, telling you that it's "up to you, Link, to save her". --ReloadPsi 13:51, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I see. It actually says: Go find the "8" units "Link" to save her. btw. I never knew there was an intro, but it sure is especially poorly translated. Many years ago Prince Darkness "Ganon" stole one of the triforce with power. Ugh. --SeizureDog 00:09, 1 January 2007 (UTC)

text: He's referred to as Link in the Super Smash Bros. series, too. While it's not technically Zelda canon, the series is closely supervised by Nintendo and generally gets things right about backstories and such. --Sparky Lurkdragon 19:18, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is it said that his name is actually Link? 

message: I think there should be a section on link's quirks. You know, like never sleeping or using the bathroom, breaking other peoples' pottery, and taking so little damage from fatal situations (ex. falling into a pit or lava, being electrocuted, or being on fire). Armogohma 01:47, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ...but all video game characters do that. You don't see numbers popping up above your head when someone hits you, do you? Axem Titanium 03:26, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, in a lot of games, falling into lava is a game over, barring magical recuperatives like Sonic's rings. And lava and fire seem to be plenty fatal to much greater creatures (King Dodongo or Deku Scrubs, for instance). The comparison is made within the games, so it should be acceptable to mention.KrytenKoro 01:18, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quirks 

message: Okay, who transcribed that ridiculous section concerning Link's skills? I mean, this has a close resemblance to RealUltimatePower, or to Chuch Norris-esque lines of exchange. Can we please modify this passage to be a bit less childish? -EarthRise33 23:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the correction. -EarthRise33 18:01, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Skills

message: Concept and Creation: Character Creation: "Miyamoto has stated that Ocarina of Time is the first story, followed by Majora's Mask, then the original Legend of Zelda, then Zelda II: The Adventure of Link, and finally A Link to the Past, with Link's Awakening falling sometime after Ocarina of Time."
Appearances: Video Games: 1986-1996: "In The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past, centuries before the events of The Legend of Zelda..."
Just thought I'd bring this to your attention. 71.195.76.153 20:34, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Inconsistency in Chronology

message: heres some news, Link is for the most time NOT the same person in the games. he is more of a reincarnation of himself again and again and again. zelda appears just as her own decendants/ancestors. Ganon is the only of the three main characters that is the same person in the whole series.
however the point is that this article dont seem to mention it any where, neither Zeldas. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.200.164.254 (talk) 22:01, 3 February 2007
:Mind giving a source? JackSparrow Ninja 22:15, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In game dialouge, maybe, and the clear differences in appearence kinda prove the different Links and Zeldas. The closest thing to a different Ganon was either in FSA and(maybe) TP.
Actually, more often than not, a Link has been in more than one game. Ocarina-Majora, Legend Of Zelda-Adventure of Link, A Link To The Past-Link's Awakening, Windwaker-Phantom Hourglass, and Oracle of Ages-Oracle of Seasons (that one's arguable, admittedly). The only games with unique Links are Four Swords, Four Swords Adventures, and Minish Cap, and those all involve the Four Sword. I don't count Twilight Princess for either group simply because there hasn't been enough time to make (or not make) a sequel to it.  Sir Pudding Sir Pudding 03:38, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  news 

message: I just KNOW  heard it in Twilight Princess somewhere....it sounds so familiar....could someone tell me when he was dubbed the Hero of Twilight? I can't seem to remember what scene it was right now.... --Superbub 01:49, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, if we connect a bunch of dots, we can suppose he could be called that. But that's not the same thing as it being true or appropriate for this article. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 04:15, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hero of Twilight 

message: I don't want to have an edit war, so I am wondering...Is the heading pic for the Link (The Legend of Zelda) article a pic from Super Smash Bros Brawl, or The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess? §†SupaSoldier†§ 16:47, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Smash Bro or Twighlight Princess 

message: The number of images this article uses has more than tripled from 8 (when it was featured) to 25. This is unacceptable people; we have to trim this down.--SeizureDog 17:21, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I will take some of them and put them in a image gallery within 3 days if nobody oposses.-Dark Dragon Flame 05:09, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Galleries tend to push the claims of fair use. It'd be better to just lower the number.--SeizureDog 07:16, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I was considering adding the artwork there, then delete some of the screenshots and moving other ones so they don't look cropped. -Dark Dragon Flame 23:28, 16 February 2007 (UTC)

text: I deleted some pictures, moved some and moved character artwork in a new gallery, but I think some images still need to be cutted down. -Dark Dragon Flame 03:22, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The gallery has to go for obvious reasons: how can we justify the claim to fair use. I say keep the number of images under 10 and no more than one image per game in the franchise. Phils 16:24, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many images! 

message: Under the "Characteristics" title, there's a paragraph about fan speculation over the origin of Dark Link. It's interesting, but without a citation, I don't think it should be in the article. In the meantime, I'll get a citation-needed tag. Sir Pudding 03:44, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dark Link text 

message: reference 41 no longer works —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.109.211.204 (talk • contribs).
::Yeah your right. But I think the problem is that the actual website isn't working 'cause I don't see anything wrong with the link. Maybe I'm wrong though... Unknownlight 16:21, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference not working

message: it says in the artical that in the wii version all the maps were fliped while flipping link making him right handed. i understood that link as well as other NPCs, enemys, and skins in general but are the maps really fliped. its just that that is a much larger change than i think nintendo or myamoto (sry cant spell) would do. just wondering if it was or was not. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 70.190.109.11 (talk) 06:22, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the maps were indeed mirrored along with all the characters at the eleventh hour of the Wii version's development. The Gamecube version remained unchanged in that respect. --Sparky Lurkdragon 23:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I was just wondering... 

message: I'm really confused after looking at the images used in this article. We're using official artwork in places where we should be using screenshots, and vice versa:
*The LOZ artwork is from the manual, right? Why not use :Image:Legend of zelda gpscreenshot.png or a crop of that image instead? That's what Link looks like in the game, and how most people would recognize him.
*The official art with the goron mask is pretty useless. Probably should be replaced with an image of Link in goron form or be completely removed.
*Oracle of the Seasons artwork is bad. Again, Link doesn't look like that in the game.
*The Minish Cap artwork is pretty much the same as the Wind Waker artwork, plus a hat. Is it really needed? If we want to show how Link looks in Minish Cap, we should again use a screenshot. The sprite design was very different in that game, so it wouldn't be redundant.
*The Faces of Evil screenshot should be replaced with a screenshot from one of the CGI sequences. This is the place where a non-gameplay image would be really great. --- RockMFR 20:00, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images - artwork vs screenshots 

message: Wow it's sad too see what happened to this page since it made FA, at the moment the page is full of Original research, Pov and in some intances weasel words, like it is if this page was underwent a Featured Article Review it will fail badly, I will just tag it but the page needs serious help. -凶 21:28, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Think perhaps this article should be reverted to when it passed Featured Article Review, I am unconvinced anything good has happened since that occurred. Judgesurreal777 23:58, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, this page constantly attracts large amounts of original research and cruft. A complete revert is probably too much, but probably large portions need to be reverted. Pagrashtak 00:24, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually I am in favor of performing a full revert and subsecuent inclusion of the games that were released afterwards, it's a lot more easy than having to remove all the OR and other cruft present at the moment. -凶 01:55, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, if a full revert doesn't take place, people will do a Featured Review, and defeature this article, which is not fair to those who worked to get it to Featured status to have to choose either letting it lose its status, or take hours and manually pluck out all the junk that has been added. Judgesurreal777 02:10, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In fact, I am pretty damn mad that this article has been degraded like this...who can revert it back to the way it was? That way, we can add the little bit we now know about Link in Twilight princess here, and it will be good again? Judgesurreal777 05:24, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is a old version of Link's page, if no valid arguments are presented within one week I will revert the page. -凶 18:36, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Go for it! :) Judgesurreal777 18:44, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. I'll help cull the improvements from the crap once you do. Axem Titanium 22:27, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: IT IS DONE! Let's start updating it :) Judgesurreal777 04:52, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see Judgesurreal did the revert while I was busy with two GACs, either way that certainly was a fresh start now let's keep it like this, cheers. -凶 01:20, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

text: An image on this page has been listed for speedy deletion due to having no fair use rationale. I am nominating this article for FA review  --carelesshx talk 20:32, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Not a Featured Article quality page anymore

message: I updated the main picture to the newer model used on the relaunched smash bros site. The newer model is brighter in most places then the older one. Takuthehedgehog 14:46, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like it has been listed for speedy deletion. You need to add a fair use rationale to it if possible  --carelesshx talk 21:10, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Just a heads up

message: If some one can awnser this, please do so. How can Twilight princess take place 100 years after Oot and still have Link look like he's 17?!?! My guess is that he's not the same character because, judging by his hero shade lessons, Twilight Princess is his first adventure. Also, the orginal ZELDA game introduced Link to adventure while OoT did the same! Am I the only one who's ever thought about that? If not, please don't be shy. Son of Jadoja 14:01, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You can name the hero whatever you want in TP though :)--Svetovid 09:34, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  You can Name him whatever you want in all of them, I believe. You could in the first one, and Ocarina, and Wind Waker, and so forth. But he is Link, regardless. The manual refers to him as Link, and as far as the canon story is concerned, his name his Link.DurinsBane87 09:52, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

text: This is rather pointless in the first place. It's like inquiring how and why it's possible that The Simpsons characters never age.--Svetovid 17:44, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, that is your opinion, but it has nothing to do with the article really.--Svetovid 09:00, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  All the same character? 

message: The section for Wind Waker Link reads: In The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker, set hundreds of years after Ocarina of Time ....
The section for Twilight Princess Link reads: The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess ... is set approximately 100 years after the events of The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time and Majora's Mask, in an alternate timeline to The Wind Waker. 
How do we know that Twilight Princess is set in an alternate timeline? Since TP is just 100 years afterwards, and WW hundreds of years, I can't see where the two would collide and mess things up. Unless one of the creators said so or I'm missing something. :P .--Asaki Su 18:05, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: However, there was an IGN interview in which Myamoto confirmed that Twilight Princess takes place between Wind Waker and Ocarina of Time. Found here: http://media.cube.ign.com/media/572/572738/vids_10.html (The end of video 4 and the beginning of 5 are the ones in which the quote and context is found.) Rather than arguing who's right and who's wrong, I personally think it'd be in the best interest of the fandom as a whole, on this and other matters, to finally admit that there *are* contradictions in the Zelda universe. 76.18.95.22 10:31, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time frames 

message: At one point, the article states that Miyamoto said that OoT is the first game in the series, but we need to change that now, that information is way too old now, especially with all of the games out NOW. Chao9999 14:51, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ok,  we need to update the article 

message: If it's going to be organized by real-world dates, shouldn't it be talking about real world events? It just doesn't make sense to me - the games are put together here by release chronology, which is a connction they share only in the real world, not in-universe.
If we toned down the plot summary, and added stuff about how the artist's decided to develop the design between games (like in TWW, where they decided to make it more artistic and allow greater range of facial emotion).
I don't know - maybe this is normal for fiction articles, and there's some brilliant reason for it I can't fathom. But right now it just doesn't make sense.KrytenKoro 05:26, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current setup 

message: Since when is Link a knight?. I certainly have never seen him portrayed as one. And secondly, hylians are not elves. DurinsBane87 09:49, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  fictional whatever's 

message: I just started playing TP and I noticed that when I finally returned to human form and first received the green tunic, the spirit thingy referred to the Hero of Hyrule as "Link"... Now since ALttP when you first have the option to name your file, I have always named the character "Link," due to the fact that the game uses your file name as the default name for the Hero.  I am curious if TP automatically renames your character "Link" after he is declared the Hero of Hyrule or if it retains the original name you gave the game file.  Can anyone answer for me? Justin The Claw 13:01, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does Link's name change? 

message: I am having a problem uploading this, so could you help me, or you do it?
http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Image:Z06_13_big.jpg
Not that I'm against Fierce Deity, but why do we need a pic of him? --ChibiMrBubbles 14:57, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. We don't need any more images. It's been way too easy for this article to end up with way too many of them.--SeizureDog 16:53, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Someone Help

message: Given that both the Twilight Princess and Majora's Mask articles are categorized under :Category:Shapeshifting in fiction, wouldn't it make sense to categorize this article under :Category:Fictional shapeshifters, given Link's ability to change form in some games? Cipher (Talk to the hand) 19:04, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I say yes.  Paul730 06:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category Possibility 

message: Should this image be added to the non-zelda appearances section? It's relevant, as it is official SSBB art. -KULSHRAX 19:34, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Add fair use rationale then yes.  I even think this pic would be appropiate as the main picture (as I've stated above) but the concensus seems to be that only a "canon" picture can be used.  Paul730 06:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it already has rationale. The tag that it has is an "orphaned fair-use image" tag. You see, I originally uploaded it for inclusion in this article, but it was recently removed from the "non-zelda appearances" section with this rationale provided:"No significant difference between the lead image and the following image. Without any differences, there's no fair use rationale to use two redundant image." Of course, this image is different from the main image at the time, which was the twilight princess art, as this is super smash bros brawl art. The rationale for removal actually amuses me somewhat because of the heavy opposition against using SSBB images as main images, because if this image is considered to be the "same" as the main image, why can't it be used there? Of course, I am merely pointing out a flaw in logic, and would like the image to be placed back into the article, because otherwise it would be deleted for being orphaned, despite it providing fair use rationale. And also, because currently, the main image is minish cap artwork, this image would be unique to the article. Thanks for your support of the image...which is a change for once. -KULSHRAX 21:00, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Twilight Princess > SSBB in regard to which image gets on the page. - A Link to the Past (talk) 16:47, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Image in non-Zelda appearances

message: As explained here, the arguments for Link having a lead picture are essentially the same as those for Ganon - he does keep a green outfit and is Hylian (which correlates to Ganon's armor and Gerudo-ness), but otherwise changes design as much as Ganon, is only the same person for pairs of games, and actually changes form nearly four times as much as Ganon.KrytenKoro 21:44, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you wish to discuss this, please respond at the previously linked discussion, so that we aren't reiterating our points over and over.KrytenKoro 21:49, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about a collage of all the different Link's from different eras?  Doctor (Doctor Who) and Master (Doctor Who) use collages for characters who change their appearance over time.  Paul730 03:37, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Please discuss this on the Ganon page, but that seems reasonable.KrytenKoro 06:09, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No lead picture 

message: I object to Link's appearance on Robot Chicken being referred to as "trivia" in User:Svetovid's edit summary.  Featured articles Jason Voorhees and Jabba the Hutt both detail the character's appearances in spoof television series such as Family Guy, South Park, and Robot Chicken.  This article is not just for "official" Nintendo appearances by Link, and any mention of him in mass media should be acknowledged in the article.  Paul730 21:27, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? Any mention? Pagrashtak 22:12, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, not any mention, I worded that incorrectly.  But still, a significant appearance in a notable television series is definitely worth a mention.  It shows the character is a recognisable figure of popular culture and not limited to just his own series or Nintendo games.  As I said before, other FA articles have "In mass media" sections and I don't see why Link should be an exception.  Paul730 22:17, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Was he referred to as Link in the series? SpigotMap 22:31, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, but Ganon, octoroks, rupees, and the Triforce are all mentioned by name.  And his appearance is identical to Link's.  Here, watch it yourself.  There's no doubt that this is a Link reference.  Paul730 22:36, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's trivial information. The fact that Link appears in Robot Chicken is not necessicary for a well rounded knowledge of the character. Mention Robot Chicken, and then you'd have to mention VG Cats, Mad Magazine, Cracked, Ctrl+Alt+Del (webcomic), and a hundred other spoofs.--SeizureDog 23:53, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If all of those spoofs you mentioned above do feature Link and are notable, then I believe they should be mentioned in a "Link in popular culture" section.  Why are his appearances in Robot Chicken and VG Cats any less notable than his cameos in Final Fantasy, Donkey Kong, or Animal Crossing?  Because those aren't video games?  As I've mentioned before, other FA articles such Jason Voorhees#In popular culture contain mass media references to the characters.  It's not trivial.  Listing every sword-wielding elf in pop culture who looks like Link would be trivial.  Discussing the spoofs in "She said to him, he said to her" detail would be trivial.  However, I don't think that acknowledging direct parodies of Link would be trivial. Paul730 00:24, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that pop culture references are about as notable as cameo appearances. In which case, I think that neither belong in this article. Popular characters get cameos and spoofs. This goes without saying. We don't need to elaberate on how many times they've been mentioned in other media.--SeizureDog 02:37, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree, and refer to other featured and good fictional character articles for examples of standard practice.  I believe that info on parodies/other appearances is neccessary to show the character's impact/influences on pop culture.  We can't just assume that the reader is aware of how popular the character is.  Paul730 13:08, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Robot Chicken appearance

message: the picture of link at the top of the article is not definitive of link.  a picture of adult link from ocarina of time or twilight princess would be much better.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.130.62.234 (talk) 15:47, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been discussed before (see above). Read that and if you have anything new to bring to the table, please do. What you have said so far has been said before. Axem Titanium (talk) 05:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  change lead picture 

message: I know that we'll have to wait until SMBB comes out so that someone can see the game's credits and verify this, but doesn't it sound as if Akira Sasanuma (y'know, Link's seiyuu in Twilight Princess) is doing the voice for Link, instead of Nobuyuki Hiyama? ChromeWulf ZX (talk) 01:17, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voice in Brawl? 

message: Hey, I noticed the only voice credits here are for official Zelda games. I'm pretty sure his voice for his appearances in the games I've highlighted were just reused loops from Adult Link in Ocarina, I'm not entirely certain, so I'm not gonna just put it in. Anyone know for sure?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.94.76.172 (talk) 02:01, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voice in SSB, SSBM, and Soul Caliber 2 

message: On the main link at top of page should it be toon link or not  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marioman12 (talk • contribs) 15:33, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This has already been discuessed - as of right now, the consensus seems to be that we use the most recent image, as it would be the one most accessible to the general public.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 21:21, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Opinion