Talk:Japanese poetry

message: I spell-checked this article using the SpellBound extension to the Firefox browser. gK ¿? 09:21, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Spell-check

message: ja:H氏賞 is a Japanese award for contemporary poetry, perhaps one of most authorized and best known award related to Japanese contemporary poetry. I refered it in Ishigaki Rin who was awarded with it in 1969, but faced a problem. I couldn't find its fixed translation name in English. If you know it, please correct my edit of Ishigaki Rin. Cheers. --Aphaea 14:29, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: A friend of mine on ja said Mr. H Award is that. --Aphaea 14:31, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  H-shi sho or Mr. H Award 

message: The section on the Kokinshu claimed that "Ise" was one of the poets. This seems to derive from confusion with  Ise monogatari (tales of Ise), whose authors are, I think, unknown. So I cut the link. But maybe "Ise" is code for "the Ise poet", in which case it would be better to write the Ise poet. Gdr 12:36, 2005 Jun 15 (UTC)
I know this is not really the place for idle questions, but it is something that has been omited in the article: What writing system is poetry in these periods written in? Is modern poetry written in kanji or hiragana or katakana?
82.7.41.75 14:50, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ise 

message: I was under the impression that the "senryū evolved from maekuzuke" theory had been deprecated. Has anyone a reliable citation for the claims in this respect, in the "Pre-modern" section?--Yumegusa (talk) 11:39, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  maekuzuke and senryū 

message: By changing "When Japanese poets first encountered Chinese poetry, it was at its peak in the Tang Dynasty." to "Japanese poets first encountered Chinese poetry at its peak in the Tang Dynasty." you (User:Kintetsubuffalo) have introduced an undesirable ambiguity, which I have no doubt was unintentional. But please consider that your revised sentence can now be interpreted to mean that Japanese poets may have encountered Chinese poetry earlier when it was not at its peak. Can you explain why you felt the need to edit the perfectly unambiguous earlier version? In your edit summary you said, "the sentence was clunky". It's unclear what you base this opinion on, but in any case it is no justification for introducing such an ambiguity right in the opening sentence. I have no interest in edit wars and have no doubt we share the same aim, so please consider re-editing in light of the above. Thanks for your attention.--Yumegusa (talk) 15:27, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, but it can't be interpreted thus-when you say "first", there is no ambiguity, there is no room for the idea that it was done earlier, it's just like there is nothing better than "best". I felt the need to edit it because a) this is the Wikipedia and anyone can edit, b) the words I removed were extraneous, c) it read like an essay, not an encyclopedia entry. It still doesn't, but my edits got it closer. I base my "opinion" on the fact that I am an English teacher and a native speaker. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 15:37, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm afraid you are incorrect in claiming there is no ambiguity: in the earlier version there was no room for misinterpretation, but your revision introduces the possibility of reading thus:"Japanese poets first encountered Chinese poetry at its peak in the Tang Dynasty (but first encountered it at less than its peak in the Sui Dynasty)."Enclosing the word "opinion" in quotes doesn't make it any more than that. Please re-edit to remove the ambiguity you have introduced, lest another editor inadvertently reintroduce 'clunk'.--Yumegusa (talk) 15:56, 17 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Ah, no. Looks like we're going to be at cross purposes on this one. Yours is a poor opening paragraph and conforms neither to WP:MoS nor to basic encyclopedic writing. Your version as written does not belong in the opening paragraph. If you want, we can put in for a third opinion. Chris (クリス • フィッチ) (talk) 16:21, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You appear to have misunderstood. I am not defending the previous version (it's not 'mine') and make no claims for it with regard to WP:MOS. I am merely pointing out that in your revision of that sentence you have introduced an undesirable ambiguity. You have failed to address this issue, and if you don't deal with it, someone else will be obliged to. I feel sure you will agree that clarity of meaning is more important than style or clunk-level. --Yumegusa (talk) 15:32, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, I'll edit now to remove the ambiguity which its author seems unable to recognize. Feel free to edit again to remove any clunk I inadvertently add, but please do not simply revert, thereby reintroducing the problematic ambiguity.--Yumegusa (talk) 00:01, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits to opening sentence 

message: I would suggest these two additions to the list of 'Important poets (modern)'
1. Ryuichi Tamura
2. Kazuko Shiraishi
Both poets were among the first post-war Japanese poets to tackle the difficult job of coming to terms with atomic bombing and the post-war trauma.
I believe Ryuichi is accorded such reputation that many Japanese believe he should have received a Nobel Prize for his work.
I will defer to the principle editors of this article to decide if the additions are appropriate,
and to make them if they think warranted --  Red Slider.  71.193.56.126 (talk) 16:55, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern Poets - suggested additions to list 

message: History is great and all, but this page is the default Japanese poetry article. It needs a section with a straight list of styles absent the need to scroll through their historical context, practitioners, and development. Thanks. — LlywelynII 15:13, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Forms

message: At this point, I think that "Japanese poetry" article would most benefit by better and more clearly related reference citations, in support, and an examination of what is already there, in these terms. Dcattell (talk) 18:34, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

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message: Three types of poems emerged during the Japanese period 2001:4452:3FC:A000:81E6:7B8:AD5E:CEF (talk) 14:20, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  SACP