Talk:2007 Pacific hurricane season/Archive 1

message: There was a Tropical Cyclone Bertie-Alvin in the 2005-06 Southern Hemisphere tropical cyclone season. Thus, when Alvin forms (Its the first name on the list... even a slow year will easily reach it) make sure that Tropical Storm Alvin is a disambiguation page. I recommend that Hurricane Alvin and Tropical Cyclone Alvin redirect to that disambiguation page so future users know about it... unless of course this year's Alvin is really evil. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 18:26, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll take care of it once Alvin forms. --Coredesat 00:58, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dab created. --Coredesat 03:19, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambig

message: Hi, just drawing attention to Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Tropical cyclone discussion archives. Up for deletion are all the archives of discussion about tropical cyclones on the seasonal pages, as opposed to the archives of Wikipedia-related discussion. See the nomination for the rationale for deletion. The thoughts of contributors here be appreciated on the discussion.--Nilfanion (talk) 21:21, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  MfD on discussion archives 

message: This article desperately needs information about pre-season forecasts. Anyone? – Chacor 01:55, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, but I don't think they have come out yet. Anyone know when the NOAA forecasts are going to be released? Looks like they'll come out on May 22. (In the past few years, the forecasts for three basins have been released on the same day.) --Ajm81 11:30, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What this article needs

message: Why is the timeline being kept in the article when there is a separate list/article for it?---CWY2190TC 03:42, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The timeline in the main article is for recent events (it should say "Timeline of recent events", but it doesn't; I'll fix that). Since all of the events are recent, all that info is there. -- RattleMan 04:11, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: At the beginning of each month, if there are no active cyclones, the previous month is removed. May is on there right now because Barbara is still active. —Cuiviénen 21:03, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Timeline

message: Why does Tropical Storm Barbara need an article? Reub2000 02:22, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't need one. I started one after I thought it would do much more, and published it after it did what it did. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:27, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In general, all land-impacting Pacific hurricanes will ultimately get articles, but most that stay out to sea will not. CrazyC83 23:03, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barbara Article 

message: Its up Jason Rees 19:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alvin TCR 

message: Its up -  Jason Rees 17:58, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TD3E TCR 

message: Its up  Jason Rees 19:24, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TD5E TCR 

message: THE CURRENT TRACK AND INTENSITY FORECAST MAY REQUIRE WATCHES FOR PORTIONS OF THE HAWAIIAN ISLANDS ON MONDAY.
Based on this, when - and only IF - watches get issued, should an article be created, much like the Atlantic status quo. – Chacor 15:40, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why wait until watches/warnings are issued?  Just wait until the storm is over? ---CWY2190TC 17:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I say that a sandbox should begin, and should watches or warnings get issued, it should be created at Hurricane Flossie (2007). CrazyC83 18:43, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll start working on one tonight. Hurricanehink (talk) 18:46, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Eh, scratch that (something came up). If someone else wants to make a sandbox, they can, but if no one wants to, I'll do it tomorrow. Hurricanehink (talk) 02:51, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Watches out. Titoxd(?!? - cool stuff) 19:38, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flossie article 

message: *Barbara - not much of change. 
*Erick - pressure down to 1004. Mitchcontribs 17:46, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barbara and Erick TCRs 

message: --Ajm81 22:41, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TD 4-E TCR 

message: --Ajm81 22:53, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dalila TCR 

message: Hi. It appears tropical storm Gil formed partially from the remnants of Dean. When the remnants of Dean made it into the Pacific as 93.E invest, the main convection moved overland into Arizona et al, but a large part of the storm continued travelling west into the Pacific. Is it possible that, as the convection in 93.E invest continued to dissapate, it refired nearby and became 94.E invest then Gil? Could someone check the satellite loops to see if this is possible? In the currently-unlikely event that this is confirmed, what will the article be like? Hurricane Dean-Gil? What does such an article usually look like? Also, even though Dean dissapated beyond recognision as a tropical depression, were this to be confirmed, would the articles stay separate, like TD 10 and Katrina, or merged into one article, like Fifi-Orleane? Thanks. ~AH1(TCU) 15:40, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not the case. The last Pacific TWO that mentioned the remnants of Dean indicated it was near Baja California. Two days later, the system that became Gil was first mentioned several hundred miles southwest of Acapulco. Unless the trade winds magically blew the remnants of Dean southeastward and the NHC did not want to mention that the remnants of Dean had redeveloped, then I am quite sure that Dean had no connection to Gil. Hurricanehink (talk) 15:45, 30 August 2007 (UTC)

text: WP:NOR, AH1. Please stop coming up with crazy fantasies. What you suggested did not happen. – Chacor 17:00, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dean-Gil? 

message: Due to the six deaths caused by Tropical Storm Henriette, I have created a sandbox article for us to add info to in the future should it became appropriate to create an article for Henriette.
Part of my justification for creating a sandbox article now is the fact that Henriette's six deaths thus far equal its total to that of last year's Hurricane John, which has an article, and exceed that of last year's Hurricane Lane, which also has an article. 
I may not be able to edit again until later this week, and Henriette will probably be long dissipated by then, so you may add info to my sandbox and publish it when it becomes appropriate. Of course, if for whatever reason we decided not to create an article on this system, you may freely have my sandbox emptied. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:34, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Awesome, sounds like a good idea. It will probably need one prior to its next landfall. Hurricanehink (talk) 23:45, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears that Mitchazenia also has one; see User:Mitchazenia/EP11E. Had I known that one existed I wouldn't have created mine. I guess we can always have some admin merge them, although my sandbox article is more complete. Miss Madeline | Talk to Madeline 23:52, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea, go with yours. Hurricanehink (talk) 00:09, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I jus wanted to check the protocol before i go ahead and change things cos im still learning the ropes here. On the 2007 pacific hurricane page it says that there have been 7 named storms when in fact henriette is the eighth. Do you only change that after the system has disspated. Some people may find this confusing. any answers for this? (Seddon69 11:36, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice catch. Yeah, there have been 8 storms. You can go ahead and change it. -- RattleMan 11:52, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I added a track at :Image:Henriette_2007_track.png to the Commons. Q T C 08:17, 5 September 2007 (UTC)

text: the NHC advisory for Henriette's Baja landfall was released at 2:00pm PDT (2100z) It looks like a rough estimate time to me. - グリフオーザー 03:29, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's the link, which confirms it was at 0015 UTC on September 6. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:33, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

text: he is talking about the first landfall, I believe - グリフオーザー 03:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks correct to me, see sources for first and second. --Ajm81 05:35, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Henriette sandbox article 

message: The article states "1:30 p.m. PDT (2030 UTC) - Hurricane Henriette makes landfall" However is is currently 1955 UTC. I'm not sure if the editor used the wrong timezone and/or the wrong time. But as it stands it's predicting the future. Jon 20:03, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: the NHC advisory for Henriette's Baja landfall was released at 2:00pm PDT (2100z) It looks like a rough estimate time to me. - グリフオーザー 03:29, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's the link, which confirms it was at 0015 UTC on September 6. Hurricanehink (talk) 03:33, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

text: he is talking about the first landfall, I believe - グリフオーザー 03:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks correct to me, see sources for first and second. --Ajm81 05:35, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Landfall times obviously wrong

message: I'm removing the "Seek info from local authorities" box. The HPC just issued it's first and last advisory on the storm. This means that official sources no longer deem it a flooding threat, or a threat of any kind. Therefore I'm removing it. -- §HurricaneERICarchive 00:27, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  On page warning 

message: --Ajm81 22:35, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: CPHC version is now available here. --Ajm81 03:10, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cosme TCR 

message: --Ajm81 03:34, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gil TCR 

message: Good kitty 00:54, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  TD 13E TCR 

message: Good kitty (talk) 18:58, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Juliette TCR 

message: Jason Rees (talk) 22:33, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kiko TCR 

message: --Ajm81 22:11, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Henriette TCR 

message: CPHC Jason Rees (talk) 02:56, 29 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flossie TCR'S