Talk:King of the Hill/Archive 1

message: Does anyone think this should remain in the "animated children's series" category? It isn't really a children's show. -jules991
:: I don't consider it as a children's show, either. However it is not harmful for them but they wouldn't get conservative/redneck jokes. Plus, it is in primetime television which is not children's hours. I'm removing it from the animated children's series and put it in Animated television series. In fact, I remember "The Simpsons" was putted in that category. (children's series) --Anonymous Cow 03:23, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeing as BOTH shows frequently feature sexual references and "foul language" and such, neither can be considered a "children's series." After all, by definition a children's series is a series intended for and suitable for children, and those aspects of the shows very clearly do not fit that criteria within the U.S., which is where the shows are written and originally air. Anyone who thinks The Simpsons is a "children's show" probably thinks all animation is "for children", a common but  I think rather perplexing bias that many Americans still have towards animation, thanks to years of both comics and animation being primarily a child-oriented medium in the  U.S. (I say this as an American, too). The Simpsons and (to a slightly lesser extent) King of the Hill are both clearly and squarely aimed at teens and adults. People who think these shows are "for children" probably would think South Park is intended for kids, too. 4.235.6.236 04:56, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Good point." I am glad this conversation was held in January 2005 so that it was taken care of then. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 18:44, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Children's TV show? 

message: I have started editing and improving the King of the Hill wikiquote page. I have tried putting a link to the King of the Hill quote page but it links to the T.V. Series. Whoever started the article originally didn't add the T.V. series part. Now it won't link. If someone can correct this that would be awesome. I would hate to have to start all over just to tack on the T.V. series at the end.
--Guitarist6987876 02:56, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Done! Owen× ☎ 03:03, 2 October 2005 (UTC)

text: No problem. Drop me a line on my talk page if you need anything else. BTW, you may want to spend a few seconds and get yourself a Username; this will allow you to rename articles, get recognition for your work here, and distinguish you from random vandals using the same IP. You don't even have to give any personal details. Owen× ☎ 15:44, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikiquote. 

message: The minor characters should stay because Wikipedia has to try to be as informative as possible. The "delete everything that is non-notable" policy is ridiculous.
That is actually the epolicy.  Things that are non-notable shouldn't be here.  You might think it's ridiculopus, but that is the policy.  
I deleted all that info because it is non-notable and takes up too much space on the page.  We should be careful not too turn these pages into long pages packed with every piece of informatiuon we possible can.  That's just not how it's done here and will earn this page a clean up tag if we're not careful. If the polcy in Wikipedia were that all information including non-notable info gets ont he apgges, this place would turn to pot really quick.
Now I deleted all that info a  LONG time ago and no one complained.  I vote the following not notable info be removed:
# the "minor" characters.  They're minto for a reason.  They're not notable adn don't need to be on the page.  None of them need to be taking up space
# all the info that speculates on what town Arlen is supposed to be.  Seriously, bnnot even close to important and is just speculative nonsense.  That kind of thing shouldbe on the talk page, not the article in my OP. 
Anyway,you asked why and I've explained. I would ask Remington not to add any more deleted info wthout first discussing it as it's just cluttering up the page with info that might be removed anyway after other people have their say.
What does everyone else think?Gator(talk) 19:46, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.  One minor point about Alihi's mother, though: she's a claims adjuster, not an insurance salesman.  She works with Hank after he and Kahn ran into each other while backing out of their driveways. — EagleOne\Talk 02:58, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Deleted info

message: Is the "Disc format" section OK with everyone? Should I add more detail about the extras, or will the current tables suffice for the article? Wezzo 18:44, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: What we have in that section is fine for the main article, but if we expand it we could do so in a separate article, a la The Simpsons DVDs. — EagleOne\Talk 00:53, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm up for that, definitely, assuming others agree it warrants its' own article. Wezzo 08:43, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Written - see King of the Hill DVDs. Hope it's OK with others. Wezzo 10:45, 11 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added DVD releases section 

message: "There are political and social undertones to many episodes, many of which generally ridicule the 'liberal' side of pertinent American issues."
"This presents the Republican criticism that an oversized welfare state creates laziness and hinders productivity."
"This episode ridicules both extensive business regulation (which Republicans tend to oppose), and the absurd technicalities that an enormous federal government entails (another Republican criticism)."
Liberals, hippies, and the politically correct are equal targets of the subtle social satire, but I wouldn't call the show specifically sympathetic towards Republicans, it's clearly centered around lampooning the socially conservative, middle class outlook on life, although essentially every character is portrayed in a sympathetic light. I'd say the show is equally disparaging to both liberals and conservatives, and some of the former is a comment on conservatives' perception of liberals. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.23.48.38 (talk • contribs) 18:58, January 4, 2006  (UTC)
I was just reading and I whole-heartedly agree.  The article goes over Hank's "by the book" lifestyle, which is clearly created to ridicule many conservative's view on life.  Someone needs to fix up this seciton of the article. _mich 02:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hank Hill is just a character based on Mike Judge's dad, that's all. 65.95.42.235 23:39, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Republicanism? 

message: With the main characters (the Hills and Gribbles) being members of Arlen First Methodist, is Bill also a member or is he Catholic? Abstrakt
:Bill attends Arlen First Methodist, just like the Hills and the Gribbles, so a case can be made that he's also a Methodist.  For one example, see the season 3 episode "Revenge of the Lutefisk" where Bill confronts Cotton inside the church. — EagleOne\Talk 00:14, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  trivia question 

message: Does anyone else think that this section is a bit overdone?  I think it could benefit from a good reduction.  It's got to the point where every clue is on their and it's just a jumble of speculation and useless information.  Also, whatever happened to the part that said that the town is supposed to be from "nowhere" or somethign like that?  Why was that removed?  Thoughts before I have a go at it?Gator (talk) 21:27, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it is overdone. It provides a lot useful information. The section was asked to be expanded earlier on, and now it is. --FlyingPenguins 01:34, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you look through the history, the current section was reduced first from a massive and ugly list to prose (by me) and then again to trim out some unnecessary episode details.  Please don't remove any information or turn it back into a list. — EagleOne\Talk 03:36, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: None?  No information whatsoever? None?  Completely off limits?  it;s absolutely perfect the way it is?!  Come on.  I will remove some.  Lord knows it needs it.  No one owns this section.Gator (talk) 13:17, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All I'm really asking is that you do not delete the section outright, as you have done in the past (without any discussion, I might add). — EagleOne\Talk 17:34, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, I think this section is still overdone - I got about halfway through, said to myself 'alright, I *get it*,' and scrolled down past it. FWIW. 74.227.120.238 19:12, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Duly noted. I'll try to clean it up some tomorrow, if I get a chance. --Milton 04:33, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Mike could have lived in Garland after moving back to "Dallas" after graduating from University of California, San Diego. --131.122.63.45 18:16, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location of Arlen 

message: we don't really know if it will really end. because i read alot of news sources on the web that is saying that it will maybe come back for another season. Because of cancellation of Malcolm in the middle and That 70's show. Also there hasn't been an official announcement from FOX, it was just from Mr. Judge. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Th3darkforce (talk • contribs) 16:49, January 22, 2006  (UTC)
:Recently an anonymous editor inserted this paragraph into the History section: "Regarding the last two paragraphs, it has been announced that King of the Hill has been picked up for another 20 episodes. The season airing these episodes may or may not be the final season. It is unclear at this point."  While this news is indeed heartening, I had to take it out beacuse it didn't properly cite its sources.  Has Fox really renewed KotH for a new season?  If so, can someone provide a link to this announcement? — EagleOne\Talk 16:50, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not the ending? 

message: Does anyone remember the episode where everyone spoke like Boomhauer except for Boomhauer? It is by far the funniest show ever made but I can not find it anywhere. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Acs54 (talk • contribs)  09:21, 2 April 2006
:I think the episode was called A Fire Fighting We Will Go, the one where Hank, Bill, Boomhauer and Dale become firefighters, and when they are accused of burning down the fire station, they each tell their own story on what happened. When it was Boomhauer's turn, everyone except him spoke like him. --FlyingPenguins 19:08, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe FlyingPenguins is correct. If you're looking for a copy, it's on the S3 DVD. - Wezzo (talk) (ubx) 20:04, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Best KOTH episode ever 

message: Is there a section about backlash against this show? I tried finding it, but nothing about it. Would it be better if they do so?
Anyway, this show received heavy criticism because many assumed that it stereotypes everyone and everything in every single episode aired and produced. For example, young generations, blondes, ethnic groups, gays, etc. Does this sound reasonable? —70.234.85.199 04:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Many shows have characters that are stereotypes. The Simpsons entire cast of chracters is nearly all formed of stereotypes.Throw 22:08, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't found any backlash, and I don't think there has been any; I also don't think the show uses very many stereotypes if at all. I'm not sure what you're referring to. There is that episode that stereotypes dogs as interested in having sexual intercourse, and I was a little offended by that generalization. I know lots of dogs who would much rather chase a ball. --Chris Griswold 07:33, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism of the show 

message: I wanted to point out that the band No Doubt and Sarah Michelle Gellar were both guest stars on King of the Hill (in separate episodes during the first few seasons).  I'm not sure which episodes, though. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 146.244.188.30 (talk • contribs) 11:19, May 10, 2006  (UTC)
:You're right; the episodes are, respectively, "Kidney Boy and Hamster Girl: A Love Story" from Season 5 and "And They Call It Bobby Love" from Season 3.  I've added notes both appearances to the article. — EagleOne\Talk 02:55, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Celebrity Guest Stars 

message: According to IMDB, only former members of The Refreshments are given credit for the theme song, and not the US Bombs.  Perhaps someone can prove me wrong? --JWZurawski 00:35, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theme Song 

message: This section is uncited, and it reads like a non-neutral POV and original research. I'm not really sure what to do about the section other than to start removing indivual uncited claims or take it down. --Chris Griswold 05:44, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Themes and analysis section 

message: There is nothing listing these. There is a link to the page, but if you click on you you're just redirected to a list of characters. There's no real list for this. --Milton 22:23, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They are listed with the characters. Celebrity guest stars are not a huge aspect of the show, unlike the Simpsons. --Chris Griswold 02:00, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Celebrities on King of the Hill 

message: "The creators take advantage of the series' format by featuring narrative elements that might cost significantly more if done in a live-action series."
Like what? --Shanedidona 14:47, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  why? 

message: I thought the Hills were methodist, not Catholic, as Peggy stated in the episode where she pretended to be a nun.
:You are correct. They go to Arlen First Methodist. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 02:12, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catholic? 

message: Should there be something about Tom Petty and his character Lucky?
:There is, in the characters article. --Chris Griswold  (☎☓) 00:36, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tom Petty 

message: I find that the show has a great deal of sexism (as a comedic theme). Perhaps this theme should be expanded by someone who knows more about the show.--Kelly Chartier 05:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Important Theme 

message: Does anyone know the name of the show where the priest appears or his own name? --Impaciente 08:45, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Monsignor Martinez R.A Huston 08:35, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of the "vaya con dios" priest 

message: I just watched that episode when Ted Wasonasong invited Hank to join Nine Rivers. Kahn says he's Chinese, yet in another episode, he and Mr. Ho scold Kahn for forgetting about his Lao roots, while they haven't. So what are they, Chinese or Lao?--DethFromAbove 01:49, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ted Wasonasong (sp?) - Chinese or Lao?