Talk:Joachim

message: Imran should be a separate entry from Joachim so that religious interests do not supercede scholarly ones —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 166.82.166.38 (talk • contribs) .
neutral - though I do think that if it is decided to keep the articles separate they would both benefit from mentioning that Joachim and Imran are one and the same person (i.e. the father of Mary/Maryam) known by different names by two faiths (presumably there are also two different versions of his life). Wikipidian 22:14, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: This article says that "In the Gospel of James, Joachim is described as a rich and pious man of the house of Amram..." I don't see anything in the Gospel of James which says that Joachim was of the House of Amram, or a Levite. In fact, in the Gospel of James 10.1 it says, "And there was a council of the priests, saying: Let us make a veil for the temple of the Lord. And the priest said: Call to me the undefiled virgins of the family of David. And the officers went away, and sought, and found seven virgins. And the priest remembered the child Mary, that she was of the family of David, and undefiled before God." This actually seems to indicate that Joachim was of the House of David, not Amram. - 71.233.205.50 (talk) 22:54, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Of the house of Amram"?

message: I have added a reference to San Joaquin, California, since a similar reference is made to Santa Ana in the article on St. Anne. Caeruleancentaur (talk) 12:34, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  San Joaquin 

message: It would be helpful if the article included guidance on the pronunciation of this name.  John M Baker (talk) 14:21, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: There appear to be regional variations. In places with a significant Jewish population it would probably follow the Hebrew pronunciation, which would be something like Yo-a-chim, with a guttural "ch". In German it would be Yo-ACH-em, Massachusetts and parts of New York are closer to the German: Jo-ACK-em. The "j" is different in French: zhwa-KIM.  In the US it is most often found as a popular name among Spanish-speakers: wa-KEEN. I think it may depend on where you grew up. I'm not sure how one would explain the various versions for the article, however. Mannanan51 (talk) 01:41, 5 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: It's very doubtful whether Imran was originally the Islamic equivalent of Joachim.  It's more likely that the fact that the Qur'an calls Mary the "sister of Aaron" and "daughter of Imran" means that there was confusion between Mary mother of Jesus and Miriam sister of Moses (two figures who were at least a thousand years apart).  Imran certainly seems to mean Amram in verse 3:33, and it's likely that it does elsewhere in the Qur'an as well... AnonMoos (talk) 17:20, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: "In Islam" section

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message: The Quran falsely states that Amrams wife has given birth to Mary who gave birth to Jesus. Problems: Amram`s wife has given birth to Miriam, not Mary. Mary lived 1400 years after Amram and the father of Mary is named Joachim. Miriam and Mary are both named "Maryam" in arabic but Miriam was the "sister of Aaron" and "daughter of Amram(Surah 66:12)", not Mary.
62.226.82.218 (talk) 23:39, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: So are these linguistic, historical, or theological problems? Mary is an English name, Miriam and Maryam Semitic. "Sister of Aaron" is easy to explain using Semitic cognates. Produce one hadith or Qur'an verse contradicting 66:12, if you can. ～ POKéTalker（═◉═） 05:26, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error in the Quran in Surah 3:33-45 

message: How can the subject article be saint if the related apocrypha isn't recognized in the Biblical canon? That simple reason shall apply at least for the Roman Catholic Church and the Eastern Catholic Church. It would be very strange saint Pope Pius X did something that had been excluded from the Tridentine Calendar. The Wp article doesn't cite any Christian nor Patristic author who had doubted of that paternity, as if the Biblical canon was broader than the Modernist one and it included the Gospel of James.Philosopher81sp (talk) 22:34, 27 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saints in the Bible 

message: Amram and the father of Mary are two seperate, different persons. 62.226.91.170 (talk) 01:48, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isnt biblical Amram the quranical reference for Imran?