Talk:Steller's sea eagle

message: Source #43 seems to be broken. Link needs mended.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.201.39.74 (talk) 20:58, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Source

message: In build section: 
Gender should probably be genus
There seems to be some other odd bits of prose in the article: Habitation level of a Steller's sea-eagle is local than it of a White-tailed Eagle of relation class. I suspect machine translation. - Smerdis of Tlön 19:48, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: It says that the Steller's Eagle is the heaviest eagle in average with 6.8 kg, but the Philipines Eagle weights in average 7kg, and the Harpy Eagle, 7.5kg. In fact one Harpy Eagle reached 12.3kg 201.32.129.172 15:36, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't assert anything about other users' authority - anyone can edit the encyclopedia, and hopefully consensus will be attained by collaboration. Also I'd encourage all of you who are editing anonymously to register so that there can be more continuity to this conversation. de Bivort 19:11, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Im the 189 and the 201. Here I am, waiting for some other action than just erasing what Ive done. Vermelhored 20:10, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Welcome! Since you have the citations, I'd say go ahead and modify the article, citing those references as you go. de Bivort 20:44, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Size

message: From Raptors of the World (Ferguson-Lees et al. 2001), something of a raptor bible:
*Steller's Sea Eagle length 85–105 cm; wingspan 195–230 cm (wing length 610–620 mm female, 570–590 mm male); weight 6.8–9.0 kg female, 4.9–6.0 kg male. BirdLife International entry
*Harpy Eagle length 89–102 cm; wingspan 176–201 cm (wing length 583–626 mm female, 543–580 mm male); weight 6.0–9.0 kg female, 4.0–4.8 kg male.
*Philippine Eagle length 90–100 cm; wingspan 184–202 cm (wing length 574–612 mm); weight 4.7–8 kg. BirdLife International entry
So, while Steller's Sea Eagle and Harpy Eagle equal in maximum weight, Steller's is heavier on average, especially if you take both sexes into account. Note that Steller's is largest also based on maximum length and wingspan, contrary to the article's incorrect statements. Another book on eagles had the Steller's Sea Eagle's maximum weight at 8.97 kg, and 9.0 kg is likely rounded from that. The Philippine Eagle is clearly smaller than the other two, although it deserves to be mentioned, as these species comprise the "big three" of eagles, with no other species exceeding 7 kg (although there is a weight of 7.5 kg for the White-tailed Eagle in older Russian literature, but most authors settle for 6.9 kg as maximum; the largest subspecies of Golden Eagle (A. c. daphanea) is another possible exception, as there is little data for it).
Note that none of these is the largest eagle based on wingspan, but are eclipsed by White-tailed Eagle (193–244 cm), Golden Eagle (180–234 cm) and Wedge-tailed Eagle (182–232 cm). One has to be extra cautious with wingspan data, as older literature is embroidered with inaccuracies: I've seen 280 cm for Steller's and 240 cm for Harpy, for example. Indeed, some books have noted that Steller's is relatively short-winged for a sea eagle. Although with its wide paddle-shaped wings it's still likely to have the largest wing area of all eagles.
The Stellar doesnt have largest wing surface area; that belongs to the phillipine eagle which can reach upto 4.3 ft in length. The second longest is the wedge tailed at 4 ft in length. Then its the steller's sea eagle, harpy eagle and the largest species of golden eagle. Heaviest eagle ever from each subspecies: Stellar's Sea Eagle - 28 lbs, Harpy - 26 lbs, Philippine - 22 lbs, Golden - 20 lbs and Wedge Tailed - 16 lbs. The Golden eagle should be considered smaller then the rest because it doesnt top in anything except for the fact that it can kill a wolf as proven in mongolia's wolf hunts. It is far smaller in all of the measurments then the other eagles. Steller Sea Eagle has a max wingspan of 250cm compared to the 200 cm for philippine and harpy eagles. The Harpy Eagle is just considered largest because of one measurement that it excels in the claw length so therefore Philippine is largest.
--Anshelm '77 (talk) 17:49, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Size comparison based on data by Ferguson-Lees et al.

message: Hi i posted a link to a website from Klaus Nigge who made some really impressive pictures of steller's sea eagle. Why was the link deleted? i understand that the links shouldn't be used for every website containing some pictures. but these are really world class. can someone explain why the link isn't suitable for wikipedia?
Here is the External Link:
http://nigge.com/projects/stellers_sea_eagle/thumbnails.html  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.221.151.68 (talk) 21:13, 12 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: , , here's an interesting one....Pallas described this in 1811 (p. 343-45], adding that Steller wrote of it briefly in a manuscript as Aquila marina. However, if you look here on page 237, the eagle he sees has a white head (Bald eagle??) - Also see here Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 23:39, 1 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe other sources have discussed this? I'm good at bibliography and digging obscure sources, but Ornithology itself is most definitely not an area I have much knowledge of. Circéus (talk) 12:29, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earliest mentions... 

message: Some observations about the article:
*Previous editors seem rather fixated in comparisons to other birds of prey with superlative measurements, we possibly need to tone this down a bit. (Example does the eggs being slightly larger than the harpy eagle add much?)
*Size and standard measurements sections can probably merge
*Subspecies discussion needs to be moved to taxonomy
*There seems to be some OR in the feeding section, where inferences are made about the behaviour of the SE from other species. In inland areas, where golden, bald and white-tailed eagles compete over food sources which are not as abundant as these fish and, more importantly, compete for nesting ranges, aggressive interspecies competition can be more common.[7] White-tailed eagles and golden eagles have even killed one another in Scotland, in cases of competition for abutting nesting ranges.[42] )
*Conservation section contradicts itself, citing a worldwide population of 5000 but 3200 active pairs.
I'll post more comments as they occur and will start working to tidy and improve the article. Sabine's Sunbird  talk 04:03, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: In answer to above  - agree, agree, agree, agree, and yes let's tweak. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 06:59, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, and we need a map to source methinks. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 09:09, 6 December 2017 (UTC)

text: PS: The size and description sections are a bit of a mess - lots of diverging and comparing sizes...and I highly doubt the sources are doing this. I will go to the UNSW library on Friday to see what I can find. I wish there was a HANZAB that covered the area....Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 02:13, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Collaboration notes and to-do list

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