Talk:Jamie Moyer

message: I've come across this same problem in several Phillies articles now. Almost the entire article needs a rewrite because there are huge sections of it that are word-for-word copies of one of its sources. It's violating the copyright of the original author as it stands right now. KV5 (talk) 21:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have trimmed most of the paragraph on The Moyer Foundation, as it was a word-for-word C&P job from the organization's Web site. caknuck ° is not used to being the voice of reason 04:37, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyvio: Needs rewrite

message: I've trimmed a lot of fluff out of the opening paragraph that was linked to mirrors or non-notable. It's been removed several times before. KV5 • Squawk box • Fight on! 14:34, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: whats with the bobblehead picture? seriously"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.230.243.1 (talk) 20:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Bobblehead

message: According to mlb.com he is the 44th pitcher, not the 46th, to get 250 wins.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.46.82.40 (talk) 02:12, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Then fix it. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 11:46, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 250th win

message: I think the Scouting report is more of a summary of Moyer's success. I think it should go into the lead because the type of pitcher Moyer is is the importance of the article, "Moyer is best known for his methodical approach to the game and his devastating changeup. He has notes and video recordings on almost every batter that he faces, which he studies before games." This seems like a good way to lead this article, it talks about his approach game to game. --Halvorsen brian (talk) 10:31, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: But if it's not part of the actual article, then it doesn't belong in the lead. The lead is supposed to serve as a summary of the article, so it should really be a brief overview of his career and accomplishments, not his scouting report. If the report itself is expanded into a wider section, I wouldn't see any problem with having something like that sentence in the lead, because it would be part of a summary. KV5 (Talk • Phils) 11:49, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is about his pitching, his pitching style is outlined in the scouting report. --Halvorsen brian (talk) 20:13, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I also think that belongs in the lead more than "he has been linked to Phil Niekro." --Halvorsen brian (talk) 20:18, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scouting report 

message: I removed the comparison to Phil Niekro from the lede. I don't see why it would belong there. Phil Niekro was a knuckler, whilst Moyer is not. The only major comparison I see to Niekro is the longevity of their respective careers. Using that logic, we could liken him to Joe Niekro, Hoyt Wilhelm, Nolan Ryan, Roger Clemens, Jesse Orosco, Satchel Paige, and a plethora of others. It doesn't belong in the lede.Mk5384 (talk) 00:22, 3 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The information was referenced. He has been compared to Niekro numerous times. I've restored the information. — KV5 • Talk •  22:49, 5 July 2010 (UTC)

text: For what it's worth, I agree that the Phil Niekro comparison sits awkwardly in the first paragraph. Sure, there are some similarities (age and finesse), but is that an outstanding feature of Moyer's career comparable to his status as the MLB's leading pitcher in total strikeouts and wins?  Don't Moyer's accomplishments speak for themselves above and beyond such qualifications as relatively minor similarities historical ballplayers?  Maybe we could move the Niekro comparison to a less prominent place.  No biggie, just wanted to weigh in with my thoughts on the subject.  Best, Colinclarksmith (talk) 04:36, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a big difference between being the MLB leader in wins/strikeouts and the active MLB leader in wins/strikeouts. As soon as Moyer retires, he loses that designation. The comparisons are still valid. Since the lead is supposed to be a summary of the article, rather than being removed from the lead, the comparisons should be expanded upon later in the article text. — KV5 • Talk •  11:31, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I believe the difference is about 250 and 3,500 respectively.  Thank you for clarifying my point!  I'm not sure how that's relevant to the Niekro comparison issue though.  I'm not questioning the comparisons' validity, merely their placement.  Maybe their lack of mention elsewhere in the article that you point to can be used to reinforce my point.  Just something to chew on.  Best, Colinclarksmith (talk) 15:34, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, I'll take a look at it. — KV5 • Talk •  16:55, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phil Niekro 

message: How can he have played in four decades if his last year was 2010? 2010 was not the start of a decade since there was no year 0.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.7.204.175 (talk) 22:21, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "Played in X number of decades" is really a sort of nonsensical concept anyway, but now that he has played in 2012, the question raised by the two previous commentators has become moot.  Everyone will agree that 2012 is in the decade of the teens. Paul (talk) 23:39, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Four Decades

message: Is this acccurate? It's not like he can sign with an MLB team at this point. I realize that he may very well attempt to play major league ball again next season and may also continue playing baseball in other leagues during MLB's offseason, so I'm certainly not suggesting that we call him "retired". But "free agent" makes it sound like he's currently seeking a spot on a major league roster. Joefromrandb (talk) 10:37, 14 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Currently a free agent" 

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message: According to this, Jamie and Karen were divorced in 2017, but we don't have a source for it.  A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 15:24, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Divorced from Karen?