Talk:Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War – Dark Crusade

message: When you complete the campaign you get a zoom out of Kronus panning to another planet that also appears to be at war, before the screen fades to black and the relic logo and the word 2007. Presumably another expansion or update. Should this go in the article?
No, I don't think it should... I've removed it. Those planets could be planets from the same system, or even the two planets from Winter Assault and the original Dawn of War.
then what does the 2007 mean?
:I think that signifies the Soulstorm expansion, or is just another planet that is also being fought for by some races. Don't include it, though, as that's only speculation. Master of Puppets Care to share? 01:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ending 

message: Has there been any discussion of adding the endings of each particular faction? I've played through 4 of them, and could do fairly good synopses of each, unless thats already been voted down to put on the site.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.64.2.77 (talk) 14:27, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are a lot of faction endings; at the moment, suffice it to say that the plot unfolds depending on which faction you're playing as. Master of Puppets Care to share? 01:40, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Faction Endings

message: In the entry for Necron Lord of Kronus it says that "as more Necrons reawaken and continue their Great Work on nearby worlds", the way that whole paragraph is phrased sounds like the Great Work refers to exterminating all life, that is wrong and I'm wondering if the game itself says that (i.e. did game designers got it wrong or was it simply poorly phrased in this article). The Great Work actually is an overarching plan of Necrons to place a network of special obelisks throughout the galaxy to cut it off from Immaterium (i.e. the Warp) to kill all the psionic powers in the galaxy, which is the only thing that can hurt necron gods, the C'tan. Necrons don't want to kill everyone in the galaxy as the C'tan need other races as herds of cattle to feed on. (this comes from Games Workshop's official Codex: Necrons). Can someone with knowledge of what is actually said in the game make a correction and note if the game itself is inconsitent if it is. Keije 01:00, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is specifically mentioned in multiple places in the game and yes, it is contrary to W40K story. The game mentions the necrons desire to destroy all life in the galaxy and does not discuss their actual "great work". Maybe we should just note the inconsistency? The writing seems to be right out of the game description so it's hard to call it wrong even if it doesn't match W40K story. Mosc 21:28, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  slight inconsitency with Necrons 

message: I just added the sectfact flag to that section, specifically the new last paragraph.  There's a lot of assertions in there that need references- pretty much the entire thing. --DarthBinky 14:42, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering that the issues mentioned in that section are nowhere to be found on the game forums, it is probably some frustrated user. The game has no copy protection at all and the box very clearly mentions "PC-DVD" on top of it and "DVD-ROM Drive" in the requirements section. I am deleting this. 62.1.166.196 20:22, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The original version of the box released in the US says 4xCD-ROM (I have it here in front of me), yet its clearly a DVD-ROM inside. Its just a small error in the system requirements and not something of too much note though as it has a big 'PC DVD-ROM' logo on the front cover and across the top of the box anyway... there was quite some fuss about it on the official relic[news] forums when it first came out though. --Quigabyte 00:36, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  reception section 

message: I think that it is somewhat misleading to say that "The Chaos Lord has a different dialogue altogether", as, if my memory serves me correctly, most (possibly all) of his comments could be heard on the original game. Someone with access to bot of the games should check this.
:Some of the Chaos Lord's dialogue is indeed missing in DC when compared with the original DoW, such as phrases like "Back off!" and "We play it your way- for now...".  Not sure that entirely justifies the comment "different dialogue altogether", though. Ifitmovesnukeit 18:27, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Updates 

message: After the Word Bearers defeat the Blood Ravens, the in-game explanation says that the victory is dedicated to The Warmaster Abaddon, not Tzeentch. The defeat of the Necrons is the one dedicated to Tzeentch. At least it did in my copy. Can anyone else verify this?
I've changed the section to omit the references to the Thousand Sons as these were not mentioned in the game. Oderic 05:44, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Characters: Eliphas the Inheritor 

message: I'm glad to see the Voice Cast section is growing well. One major problem is that it doesn't say who did Eliphas the Inheritor. Who did? 67.160.13.149 04:01, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who Did Eliphas 

message: I have owned three separate copies of Dark Crusade--two of them from the US, one from the UK, no less--and all of them, without exception, featured a Space Marine being impaled by a Necron Wraith in the opening movie. Now, the article, as it stands as of June 27, says that this only occurs in the PAL version (which is a misnomer, as PAL and NTSC apply to televisions, not to PC games, but I'm going to assume here that the original writer meant to indicate copies of the game from PAL regions), and that the US version's opening cinematic features the Wraith tearing the Space Marine in half. I've not seen this in any of my copies, nor my friends' copies. I have, however, seen it on GameTrailers.com listed as the official opening cinematic. Could someone clarify this a little bit? Is the rip from an old edition of the game and the impalement just from new ones or what?
ChampionHyena 19:08, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Odd. I think it was presumed that the opening cinematic was edited to remove the "tearing Space Marine in half" bit in order to lower the rating in other, presumably non-American markets. But is that really the case? Nerva 15:12, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed it is *not* the case, all versions were edited the same way, GameTrailers is wrong. I have corrected the article. --Quigabyte 00:38, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I just remembered though that the demo had the original cinematic in it, only once the game was released was the cinematic replaced with the censored version. --Quigabyte 00:39, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ripped in half? 

message: Are the Imperial Guards fighting against the Space Marines?  If so, why?  Do they think they're both chaos/heresy-tainted or something.  MonkStar 05:52, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. The Space Marines ordered the IG to evacuate the planet, who was ordered by the Adeptus Mechanicus to protect the fallen titan at all costs. Since the IG won't leave, the Blood Ravens have to drive them off.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.64.2.77 (talk) 14:24, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How is it a Seven-Way War? 

message: I'm creating an article at List of units in the Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War series. If anyone feels like they have some time, feel free to come by and help out in creating it. I'm aiming to make it as comprehensive as the List of units in the Age of Mythology series, which I'm using as a guideline. Anyway, I look forward to seeing anyone there! Cheers. Master of Puppets Care to share? 00:47, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: List of units in the Warhammer 40,000: Dawn of War series

message: I don't think mods should have be mentioned; almost every game nowadays has a plethora of user-made mods trailing it. I'd suggest that the article remain only about the official expansion. Thoughts? Master of Puppets Care to share? 02:33, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mods 

message: Source number 25 
All of the races have won over 50% of their games. So, on average, 54% of games were won and 46% were lost. Isn't this impossible?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.1.34.131 (talk) 05:35, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ladder ranking system 

message: "also, one critic found that the AI never attacked his homebase" - this is completely incorrect - Space marines attacked my home province. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.154.133.219 (talk • contribs) 17:13, 11 January 2008
:They attacked mine, too, but apparently not for some critics. The article is just saying the flaws critics found in the game. Cheers, Master of Puppets Call me MoP!☺</sub></span> 23:18, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception section 

message: I was reading the article and saw "Canonically, the Imperial Faction (notably the Imperial Guard) recieves victory following the events on Kronus." Where was this stated? Was something said about this in Soulstorm?
12.202.236.233 (talk) 05:59, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Souce for the cannon ending

message: Do you have to have the original game and Winter Assault installed somewhere on the same drive in order for the two games to show up under Dark Crusade's "Game Manager"?   If not, what's the trick to making them show up, so you can input the CD keys from those games and unlock all the races?  If so, why isn't it mentioned in the article that you need more than just CD keys to unlock them?  214.13.173.15 (talk) 01:00, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unlocking DoW/WA races 

message: It is stated that the canon ending of the Dark Crusade is with the Blood Ravens. However, I think that there is a slight twist to that. Here is why:
In Soulstorm, if the Blood Ravens win, it states in the ending cutscene that the Blood Ravens "acquitted themselves." This implies that they were guilty of something before but redeemed themselves. Now, we also know that if the Blood Ravens win in Dark Crusade, the Segmentum Command accuses the chapter of heresy, but the Inquisition drops the charges. We also know that if the Kronus Liberators level the Space Marine headquarters, Lucas Alexander finds evidence that the Blood Ravens are somehow connected to Chaos. (Indeed, Eliphas hints at similar things at times, too)
So, my conclusion is that Soulstorm and Dawn of War 2 Do not follow the same storyline. Rather, the two are a sort of fork in the road following the Dark Crusade.
Fusion7 (talk) 18:08, 4 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  TWO canon endings? 

message: This article contains alternateve endings to the Game's plot, described in an n-universe style.  This is not apropriate for wikipedia.  They will need to be re-written, and in my opinion, reduced.  I must say that the descriptions of the defeat of the different armies are very good, but they would be better suited to something like relicwiki or something like that.  Rustyfence (talk) 20:27, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  In-Universe endings? 

message: Someone might want to note that on most Digital Download programs, including Steam, they did away with the CD-Keys.  To activate the Dawn of War and Winter Assault Races, you simply need to install and run the respective game.  Once they've run at least once, the races will automatically be available in multiplayer just as if you'd entered the CD-Key.
Might be worth adding to the article as, generally, these games are being sent through digital download instead of retail these days -173.88.114.82 (talk) 20:42, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to unlock the races on Steam/Digital Download Programs 

message: Changes to the multiplayer component would be of interest :
* changed the online system from Gamespy to Steam ) http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2014-05-29-relic-saves-dawn-of-war-multiplayer-from-destruction-by-moving-to-steamhttp://steamcommunity.com/games/DawnofWarDarkCrusade/announcements/detail/1658761639946053463
* removal of other multiplayer capabilities http://steamcommunity.com/app/9450/discussions/0/522728180903516025/?insideModal=1  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 133.1.49.229 (talk) 09:33, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change to multiplayer to use Steam 

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