Talk:Jacques Chirac/Archive 1

message: I don't really see how "Ironically" should have be deleted for NPOV. My dictionary says that something is ironic when "characterized by often poignant difference or incongruity between what is expected and what actually is"; there is certainly and objectively some incongruity in being suspected of being a crypto-Communist and becoming one of the best known right-wing politicians of one's country!
I do however understand that some even impersonal tone should be preferable. David.Monniaux 16:37, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Communism to Gaullism

message: The writer mentions at the end of the section that "the Sun" newspaper made a tasteless comparison between Chirac and some other leader (I am guessing Tony Blair).  Anyway without more, this sentence is a little disjointed.  I recommend either a description of the comparison, a jump cite to the article, or removing the sentence entirely.Ramsquire 21:05, 16 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The Sun published a special edition where the front page compared Chirac to a worm. This was in a series of attacks from this ever francophobic tabloid. I'm unsure we have to spell this out. David.Monniaux 02:42, 17 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second term as President 

message: Isn't Chirac's nickname in France Superliar? Hardly the basis for good open Government!
:Superliar was a character coined by Les Guignols de l'Info. David.Monniaux 20:01, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Superliar 

message: Shouldn't we get rid of this photo? Isn't it copyrighted by photographer Bettina Rheims? David.Monniaux 07:50, 11 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Use of fair use pictures is fine. During a discussion about the fair use status of Image:TrangBang.jpg, Jimbo stated the foundation's official stance on fair use, and the image was not deleted.  See also this meta page. 172 15:41, 17 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Official photo

message: Is Jacques Chirac actually a member of UMP? I thought that presidents of the Republic were supposed not to be members of a party? (Even though they obviously have a very strong link to some party.) David.Monniaux 07:04, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really. You have merely pointed out the obvious: that is, Chirac has very close ties to the UMP. :-) But is he actually a card-carrying member? David.Monniaux 16:57, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Chirac founded the RPR, so surely he was a member of that, at least? john k 19:10, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm wondering whether he quit when he became president of the Republic. See, I don't quite see Chirac belonging to UMP now, with his "friend" Nicolas Sarkozy being president of the party. David.Monniaux 19:39, 10 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I see your point. However, lemme make two points. First, The article doesn't clearly state is a card-holding member, it just says it's his party, which is not precise. Second, membership is not only about holding a card, esp. when you are a very special member. To close the debate, I'll try to obtain official information from the UMP. Peco 19:59, 10 May 2005 (UTC)

text: Unofficial info from a member of the UMP I got : JC is not a member of the UMP (because of the constitution art. 5), but his wife is a member, Corrèze federation. However, IMHO, the fact that his party is the UMP should stay in the article.Peco 06:43, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I think too. David.Monniaux 10:19, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Party

message: Substituted at 15:03, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment