Talk:Lists of fictional astronauts

message: I notice that there are several of these entries that have crews composed of fictional and actual astronauts.  Is this a help to this article?  I think so.  When I first created the article for Voyagers, I had this line as part of a rather lengthy description: "Stoner's ride, as the first American on a Soyuz, predates Norm Thagard's actual trip on Soyuz TM-21 by 14 years."  Any thoughts on putting this back in and finding similar items?  Thanks.  --EarthPerson 01:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I made a command decision and put it back in.  :)  --EarthPerson 16:16, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real world connections 

message: I've noticed that there is no way to 'positively' source entries that come from less well known or common books/films/comics. An attempt to add material derived from watching a film that I purchased from a discount retailer was knocked back on the grounds of 'hearsay'(eg the information could not be confirmed online). A procedure needs to be worked out to resolve this sourcing issue. Graham1973 (talk) 01:17, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sourcing Problems 

message: I think Shirostugh Lhadatt from Wings of Honneamise does qualify. Most people watching the movie don't exactly pick up on the fact that it's not Earth and it's easy to miss. For all purposes, it looks like one of those alternate past worlds of Hayao Miyazaki.206.192.18.14 (talk) 19:00, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Must they be Earthers? 

message: Over the last few months Project Gutenberg has been uploading stories from 50's and 60's issues of the classic SF magazines, I've added those I have that contain fictional astronauts that fit the criteria. I cannot find them all however, if anyone else spots one that fits the criteria, feel free.Graham1973 (talk) 00:02, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project Gutenberg 

message: There was a TV-movie in the late 1990s starring Dean Jones as the billionaire financer of a private voyage to Mars, being covered by a live television broadcast as it nears its landing; there is a technical crisis aboard blamed on protesters on Earth who oppose the Mars voyage.  This surely is worthy of being listed.
How about U.F.O.?  It does have some oddities, such as implying that, by the 1980s, the moon's mineral wealth is already depleted.  The technology is necessarily leading-edge adaptations of 1970s Earth technology, though another oddity is that they can build an automated probe capable of catching the FTL wave of an alien craft, or of exceeding light speed to follow such an alien craft. GBC (talk) 14:23, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Special Report, U.F.O. 

message: As the person who has contributed most to this article in the recent past I thought I'd put here my understanding of what is meant by the 'Fictional Date' entry in the table. As I understand it the entry refers to the date the story is set at relative to the date the story is published. In some cases the story has a specific date (Example: 'The Trikon Deception' takes place between the months of August and December 1998), in other cases internal evidence in the story itself can be used to figure it out roughly (Example: The film version of 'Marooned' is probably set in 1970 based on internal evidence, similarly 'A Flight of Chariots' opens with a Mercury launch in February 1963 a date determined again by internal references.). Finally of course there are those stories such as 'Hunter-Killer' for which no firm date can be assigned and so it has to be approximated. If any of the people who originally set up the article are still around your assistance in clearing up this point would be greatly appreciatedGraham1973 (talk) 18:16, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That's correct.  If an explicit date is given in the original work, it should be provided in the "fictional date" column.  However, very often no date is given, but internal evidence suggests that the story either occurs at about the same year as the date of publication ("contemporary") or a few years after the date of publication, with small technological advances ("near future").  In all cases it's desirable to maintain the distinction between dates which are explicitly referenced in text or dialogue, and those which are uncertain or are inferred from context. RandomCritic (talk) 13:01, 23 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: In case anyone wonders why I changed the 'Fictional Date' of The Long Twilight" from c.2006 to c.1996 here is the relevant dialog:
"The old fellow said that Grayle was one of the prisoners transferred from Kansas along with him, back in seventy-one. And that he had known him before that."
"How long before that?"
"For over ten years...And that Govenor was over thirty-five years ago."
Thus the character Grayle has been in the federal prison system since at least 1961 (Ten years before 1971, and in fact much longer than that.). 1961+35 is 1996 so an approximate time of c.1996 is appropriate...Graham1973 (talk) 14:20, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarification - Fictional Date

message: I'm beginning to think that it might be worthwhile separating out all the fictional Asteroid Deflection stories and moving them into a sub category of their own as there is a wider diversity of hardware used than normal.Graham1973 (talk) 16:25, 1 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have belatedly carried out this suggestion. The change can always be undone if desired. Gildir (talk) 04:41, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed modification to Futuristic Category - Asteroid Deflection

message: Where should Dan Schultz, Glyn Williams and Terry Cutler from "The Tenth Planet" be on this list?  The story is set in 1986 (or 2000, according to some sources), but aired in 1966; the Zeus IV and Zeus V spacecraft operate in Earth orbit and are very similar to Gemini spacecraft. (I should also add characters from The Dying Days, "Red Dawn" and "The Waters of Mars".) Gildir (talk) 18:04, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now added the characters from "Red Dawn" and "The Waters of Mars" (although the latter is arguably set about as far in the future as this list should go -- 2059). Still not sure where "The Tenth Planet" should go. Gildir (talk) 19:11, 1 June 2011 (UTC)

text: Following Graham1973's suggestion on my talk page, I have now added "The Tenth Planet" to the Futuristic:  Other section. Gildir (talk) 14:26, 13 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional ''Doctor Who'' entries

message: Three characters in William Tenn's "Project Hush".  I don't know when it was written, but it has an Apollo-type mission in Cold War times. 94.30.84.71 (talk) 17:20, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I've now found and read http://www.gutenberg.org/files/32654/32654-h/32654-h.htm. The recommendation still holds, but I was thinking of a shorter treatment of essentially the same story. Can that be located? 94.30.84.71 (talk) 17:43, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Done, a few days ago now. Gildir (talk) 16:22, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible additions 

message: Please note that I have not listed the stowaways in First Boy on the Moon (Mike McRoberts and Melvin "Mud" Maxwell) on the precedent of the entries for Stowaway to the Moon and SpaceCamp, which do not list the children in those stories. Gildir (talk) 21:02, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: A similar case: the space shuttle passengers in Miss Pickerell and the Blue Whales include two children, Elizabeth Jaspar and Euphus Pickerell, whom I have omitted from the book's entry. Gildir (talk) 13:48, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''First Boy on the Moon'' 

message: Viktor Shevchenko (Soviet). 
Gregory Nunn (American)
|Angel Eyes (1991), novel by Eric Van Lustbader|aborted first manned flight to Mars |Contemporary / near future
Kdammers (talk) 01:18, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have belatedly added an entry for this book to the "Mars" section of the list. Gildir (talk) 13:32, 3 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Angel Eyes's astronauts 

message: The astronaut characters from the following items are still unrepresented on these lists:
:("Early period" items transferred to Talk:List of fictional astronauts (early period).) Gildir (talk) 16:47, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's Operation Columbus (AKA First on the Moon) by Hugh Walters - see Pornokitsch: 5 Trips to the MoonTanzeelat (talk) 09:23, 23 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you for identifying the novel, Tanzeelat -- it's been nagging at me for a long time. Since it's included in the existing overall entry for the Chris Godfrey of U.N.E.X.A. series, it doesn't need a separate entry. I have deleted the Apollo Quartet from the list on this page now that you've added it to the main list, and added some of the other books in the article to which you linked. Once again, thanks. :-) Gildir (talk) 14:08, 24 July 2014 (UTC)

text: I have added and deleted entries from the above list based on what I've added to the main list so far. Does anyone have any ideas about the unidentified items? Gildir (talk) 14:27, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I may have another one you might want to look into, a French comic book series "The Adventures of Buck Danny", looks like some of the issues featured the Mercury program see: The Adventures of Buck Danny The 60s and 70s. Graham1973 (talk) 11:17, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the suggestion, Graham; I'll look into it. I've also added only the film version of The Medusa Touch to the main list, since I haven't had a chance to look at the book (which might name the other two astronauts). Also, the D-prime mission CMP is omitted from the entry for Voyage in the Mars section because it's Bob Crippen, a real, historical astronaut and thus ineligible for this list (as with some of the crew members in Shane Johnson's Ice). Gildir (talk) 14:10, 28 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I was just looking though the second volume of the Film Encyclopedia and found an entry for a 1967 film called Dos Cosmonautas a la Fureza which appears to be a Spanish remake of 002 Operazione Luna. You might have better luck hunting this one down than I.Graham1973 (talk) 16:17, 2 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added multiple entries for stories listed in the two-part Ken Murphy Space Review article I have added to the external links section of the main list. Gildir (talk) 05:39, 30 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional entries 

message: Not about the unidentified items, but, the current "Stowaway to the Moon" entry is based on the 1975 TV movie, which was itself based off a 1973 novel "Stowaway to the moon: The Camelot odyssey" by William R Sheldon, I've never seen a copy of either, though I think that the 1975 film was shown on Australian television at some point. I've been trying to locate both, if only to confirm what the LM was called. Graham1973 (talk) 03:35, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I just ordered "Stowaway to the Moon" (the novel) from my library, so I'll be able to read it soon and answer that question. I've also identified the TV series about a Kennedy-like family as The Monroes, but I still don't have details on the specific episode about a shuttle mission. Gildir (talk) 13:56, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I've found what may the entire film on youtube Youtube:Stowaway to the Moon (1975) Graham1973 (talk) 18:06, 20 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Planning to sit down and watch the film later in the week. Still working on the books I have (Lots of characters...) Graham1973 (talk) 04:12, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Watched the first half hour of the film during lunch if the book confirms it we might have to change the entry for the following reasons: 1) The opening dialog refers to "...the Camelot launch...". 2) The mission insignia has the words "Camelot Odyssey" instead of "Apollo ??" (For some reason I was expecting this to be Apollo 20.) at the top. 3) Mission control uses "Camelot:..." rather than "Apollo ??:..." when contacting the spacecraft. I'm now thinking that rather than the CSM being named "Camelot", the program the mission is part of is "The Camelot Program". Something else that should be confirmed, does the book describe the mission as the first moonflight? Film gives that impression without explicitly saying so. Graham1973 (talk) 16:14, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The book just came in at my library. An initial skim of the first few chapters shows that Apollo 11 is referred to at least twice (Eagle is called "the first spacecraft to land on the moon"), and Camelot is referred to as "the real spaceship now being readied for its moon flight". I can't tell yet if Camelot is an Apollo spacecraft or not -- I'll let you know. I have made an initial expansion of the "Stowaway to the Moon" entry based on skimming the book. Gildir (talk) 18:43, 28 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Saw that, tweaked a few of the Apollo entries where it's clear that it was a full lunar mission to have "Unidentified CSM/LM". One thing to watch for is divergences between book and film. The novelization and film versions of "The Incredible Melting Man" got separate entries because of the radical changes in background between them. I also added a brief note to the talk page of the film article about having someone create an artists impression of the films Mission patch. From what you are saying about the book, then the author could be referring to a fictional J-mission, I've not gotten far enough into the film to see just what footage they use for the moon landing. Graham1973 (talk) 05:28, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Gotten a little further into the film, LM is called "Little Dipper" (Added to the list). Footage used for the landing is a mix of NASA animation and actual Apollo footage.Graham1973 (talk) 06:52, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Finished what I'd call a skim watch of the film. Updated the page to include proper Apollo-style crew designations. From context within the film 'Captain' was being used instead of 'Commander'. Gildir when you get to the section in the novel describing the landing site can you let me know the craters mentioned. The dialog in the film is at about 1:07:38 to 1:07:48 and goes "...on the bright ray from Tycho, halfway between the crater Pons D and (Seabrook(?))...", I'm not sure that I heard the second one correctly, but it does put the films landing to the south of the Apollo 16 landing site. Footage used for the "on-the-moon" sequences seems to be a mix of Apollo 11/16 (landing), 15/16/17 (exploring the surface) and 17 (LM ascent), mission seems to have been an H-Mission (20 orbits of the moon, 40hrs on the surface, no LRV, though the film seems to be making use of footage from the J missions to represent surface activities.).Graham1973 (talk) 05:07, 30 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Will do. Today I'm adding entries for various shorter items that I've recently read or seen. Gildir (talk) 13:53, 31 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Finished a more careful go through of the film (Listening rather than watching) Have added the "planned" target to the entry (From dialog at 0:37:37). Trying to make sense of the dialog from 0:47:47 to about 0:56:50 to see if I can "constrain" things further. At 1:06:17-1:06:27  there is a reference to Apollo 12 confirming this is not the first Moon landing mission. I'd also like to ask if you could make note of the craters mentioned in the novel when the "planned" target is mentioned, I think I've misheard another crater name. Graham1973 (talk) 17:11, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm over a third of the way through the book now, and have made some additions to the entry based on what I've read. I haven't read far enough to find out about the craters, though. Other points of note: the mission in the book is definitely an Apollo mission; Lawrence previously flew on a Gemini mission, and Anderson on a lunar orbit/LM test flight (i.e. a mission similar to Apollo 10); and the story is set after Apollo 14. Gildir (talk) 13:56, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: After Apollo 14 sounds about right, the primary mission objective mentioned in the film is finding a Genesis Rock. I've also added a footnote to the name of the backup astronaut to make it clear he does not appear in the film.Graham1973 (talk) 21:52, 3 April 2014 (UTC)

text: Actually, checking IMDb, I see that Tom Estes **is** in the film. (Flip Crowell is only mentioned once in the book.) Gildir (talk) 15:19, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Stowaway to the Moon: Updates

message: Mia, Midori and Antoine, the three main characters of this book, are 16, 16 and 17 years old respectively, and are variously referred to in the book as "civilians" and, more loosely, as "astronauts". For both reasons they're on the borderline of whether they should be included on this list. Gildir (talk) 14:47, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: ''DARLAH''

message: I have moved the entry for Extant from the "Modern period" section to the "Futuristic - Other" section because Seraphim does not appear to be in Earth orbit, and because of the vague reference to the "quadrant" in which Seraphim is located. This may be clarified in future episodes. Also, I have listed the fictional date for Your Fathers, Where Are They? And the Prophets, Do They Live Forever? simply as "Contemporary", but in fact the book contradicts itself about the precise year it's set. According to p. 12, the book begins on the day Neil Armstrong died (August 25, 2012), but according to pp. 177 and 187 it's been "Two years" since 2012. Gildir (talk) 13:56, 10 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Extant'' and ''Your Fathers, Where Are They? And the Prophets, Do They Live Forever?''

message: Tanzeelat, I've removed the entry you added for Ian Sales' Then Will The Great Ocean Wash Deep Above (as shown below) because the Mercury 13 were real people, and therefore not eligible for this list even though they never served as astronauts in real life. In the entries for other books which use real astronauts fictionally (e.g. The Tranquillity Alternative, Ice and Voyage), the real astronauts are not included in the character listing, although they are sometimes mentioned in the summaries for clarity.
Name(s)                                                                                                                                                                 	Appeared in                                                                       	Program / Mission / Spacecraft                                                    	Fictional date
Myrtle CagleJerrie CobbJanet DietrichMarion DietrichWally FunkSarah GorelickJaney HartJean HixsonRhea HurrleGene Nora StumboughIrene LevertonJerri SloanBernice Steadman	Then Will The Great Ocean Wash Deep Above (2013), novella                         	Mercury                                                                           	1962 to 1969 (Alternate History)
Myrtle CagleJerrie CobbJanet DietrichMarion DietrichWally FunkSarah GorelickJaney HartJean HixsonRhea HurrleGene Nora StumboughIrene LevertonJerri SloanBernice Steadman	An extended Korean War results in NASA using the Mercury 13 for its space program.	An extended Korean War results in NASA using the Mercury 13 for its space program.	An extended Korean War results in NASA using the Mercury 13 for its space program.
Gildir (talk) 17:38, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Seems fairTanzeelat (talk) 20:05, 24 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Then Will The Great Ocean Wash Deep Above''

message: According to the "making of" DVD feature for this film, the Roy Manley character was a trainee astronaut who was decommissioned after the Columbia disaster. This element of the back-story is not explained in the film itself, which never makes clear whether or not Manley served as an astronaut, although the DVD case refers to him as "former astronaut, Captain Buck [sic] Manley". Since explaining all this in a footnote would be too much like original research, I have simply included Manley in the listing, from which other editors are free to remove him. Gildir (talk) 14:39, 22 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Space Warriors''

message: The new entry I added today for Missing Man (Michael Cassutt, 1998) is by far the longest entry on the list. I have tried to compress it as much as possible, but can't see how to do so any further without sacrificing relevant detail. I'd appreciate any suggestions or edits to the entry. Gildir (talk) 18:15, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Missing Man''

message: With the addition of information from the book about this series by John C. Fredriksen, the entry for Men into Space is now longer than that for Missing Man (see previous section; the same comments apply). Gildir (talk) 15:09, 14 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now ameliorated this problem by splitting the Men into Space entry into three entries, in the "Moon", "Mars" and "Other" sections. The "Moon" and "Other" entries are still extremely long. Gildir (talk) 14:45, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Men into Space''

message: I have deleted the I Spy episode "A Day Called 4 Jaguar" from the list of items to be added because, contrary to various episode descriptions and summaries, Col. Balin is never explicitly stated in the episode to be a cosmonaut, only a prominent Soviet Air Force pilot. Below is the entry that would appear if Balin and Kirov are assumed to be cosmonauts, as may be vaguely implied by a couple of lines of dialogue.
Name(s)                                              	Appeared in                                                                   	Program / Mission / Spacecraft                                                	Fictional date
Dimitri "Dimi" Balin, Col.Nicolai "Kolya" Kirov, Col.	I SpyA Day Called 4 Jaguar (1966), TV                                         	Soviet Air Force                                                              	Contemporary
Dimitri "Dimi" Balin, Col.Nicolai "Kolya" Kirov, Col.	Cosmonaut Balin rescues young Mexican woman who mistakes him for Quetzalcoatl.	Cosmonaut Balin rescues young Mexican woman who mistakes him for Quetzalcoatl.	Cosmonaut Balin rescues young Mexican woman who mistakes him for Quetzalcoatl.
Gildir (talk) 16:06, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: "A Day Called 4 Jaguar"

message: I feel a bit guilty about the frivolousness of the entries for TV commercials that I recently added to the "2010–2019" section. Also, they are an example of WP:Recentism, since there must have been many earlier commercials with astronaut characters that are not listed. Does anyone think they should be moved to a separate "TV commercials" section at the end of the list? Gildir (talk) 13:55, 21 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like to say I agree with this proposal.Graham1973 (talk) 11:35, 30 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now created the "TV commercials" section. At the same time I changed the hierarchy of sections so that "Modern period", "Futuristic" and "To Infinity and Beyond" are on the same level as "Early period", "Classic period" and "TV commercials". Thanks, Graham. Gildir (talk) 13:56, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking at the Audi 2016 ad noticed that the astronauts are wearing mission patches. Going to try and see if they are readable. Graham1973 (talk) 16:55, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Graham. The astronauts in the 2016 Hyundai commercial are also wearing mission patches, but I doubt that they're readable. Gildir (talk) 17:13, 16 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I just tried the Hyundai 2016 commercial, I think it may turn out to be a case of needing a bigger monitor. Graham1973 (talk) 03:17, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Television commercials

message: Due to the recent significant expansion of my to-do list in the "Additional entries" section of this page (caused by my accidentally discovering a new way to search IMDb), I want to emphasize again that I would appreciate it if other editors could add entries for some of the items on the list -- I never intended to imply that I was hogging all of them to do myself. Also, I'd be thrilled if anyone had any ideas about the two unidentified items I mentioned above -- the magazine serial about Apollo astronauts crashing into a barrier in lunar orbit and the novella about an astronaut dreaming of the Apollo 1 fire in advance. I've been searching for evidence of them on the Internet for several years now and have found nothing. Thanks! Gildir (talk) 15:14, 4 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Request for help

message: According to the review of into the silent sea this 2010 song by the band Wolf Parade was one of the inspirations. According to an interview with the band, they were as the clip shows drawing on the Lost Cosmonaut lore for inspiration themselves. Does anyone think the unnamed protagonist should be added? Graham1973 (talk) 14:16, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yulia - Lost Cosmonaut themed song, worth including 

message: Finally got to the end of the book and the last chapter reveals that the whole thing may have been a dream. I'd like others opinions before adding this one to the list. 
If it is proceeded with the entry will look like this:
:That looks good, Graham. I would suggest adding a sentence to the summary to the effect that "The ending hints that the story may be a dream." I included similar statements in the entries for Nebo Zovyot (1959) / Battle Beyond the Sun (1962) (where only the original Soviet version turns out to be a dream) and the short film Capsule (2011). Also, I phrased the summary for The Four Fingers of Death (2010) to make clear that the main story of the book, including the Mars mission, is fictional within the book's framing device. Gildir (talk) 14:18, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I've added it to the list in the 'Others'. If you wish to move it somewhere else feel free.Graham1973 (talk) 16:41, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Moonlovers" 

message: I realize that Fifth Planet, like The Voyage and some other items, takes place farther in the future than is usual for this list. As always, I don't mind if someone else deletes the entries. Gildir (talk) 14:30, 14 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Fifth Planet'' et al 

message: Spotted this pop clip on YouTube, Ich Dreh Mich Um Dich by Herbert Grönemeyer, the protagonist is either a washed-up or washed-out cosmonaut, footage used includes shots of Mir. Might be worth including.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KT7yzkhFmE
Graham1973 (talk) 12:06, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I finally got around to adding "Ich Dreh Mich Um Dich" to the list (borrowing your phrase "washed-up cosmonaut"). Sorry for the delay, Graham. (I especially liked the key change at the moment of liftoff.) Gildir (talk) 15:25, 7 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another Space/Cosmonaut themed music video 

message: Classical Novels (1961)
Besides the crew of STARDUST (Mike Bull is the name for the same character called Reginald Bell in the novel in the german-italian movie production "S.O.S. aus dem Weltraum" (Mission Stardust in english) not an extra passenger aboard the nuclear Rocket they use to land on the moon...) There are also two other sisterships called STARDUST II (Crew: Michael Freyt, Lt Col; Rod Nyssen, Capt.; Lt. Recert and an unnamed "Weapons specialist from the US Department of Space" for their nuclear bomb they drop on the moon on the crashed alien vessel.) and GREYHOUND (Crew: Michael Freyt, Lt Col; Conrad Deringhouse, Lt; Rod Nyssen, Capt and William Sheldon, Maj.) which lands on the moon to investigate the destroyed alien ship and salvage its superior technology.
STARDUST II is accompanied by a chinese and a russian rocket but of the four and six respective astronauts only Gleb Jakunin is named, another russian rocket exploded during pre-launch tests just before STARDUST itself had launched, again no names given. and all three powers had manned orbital stations, the US/western Block one was called FREEDOM-1 (the station comes from the 2 stage moon shot concept out of Disney's "Man and the Moon" documentary, the rocket is more shaped like a hybrid between the russian N1 and the XR1 moon-shuttle from "Man in Space" also a von Braun presented Spacetravel movie from Disney's tomorrowland and uses nuclear motors for the two upper stages, one rocket stage and one the vertical moonlander / return-plane)
And then there was a massive expedition of the Russians to Venus. A first wave of 500 ships (simply numbered starting with C-1 etc, definitely named were C-103 and C-145) under General Tomisenkov and Major-General Lemonowitsch landed without larger problems, a second wave of 200 russian rockets under commander MajGen Pjotkin (Flagship WLADISLAW KOSSYGIN) and Colonel Raskujan is started, but due to an attack with nuclear rockets on Rhodans new ship (technology of alien origin therefore out of the scope of this list) the first wave's camp is devastated by an overpass with the superior ship and 80 rockets destroyed with 2000 dead and 5000 heavily injured (out of 10,000 soldiers aboard the fleet). Some rockets are allowed to evacuate the injured, but then counterattacks demolish most of the remaining ships on the ground. The return voyage  of Rhodan's ship leads to a midway collission with the second wave, destroying the flagship and damaging many more, causing a loss of 77 rockets during landing. Again follow-up attacks disable all russian rockets and the crews that survived (roughly 5000 heads strong) forms a first human colony under the new global government... A third wave of 1000 ships delivering amongst other things extra fuel to return with the first two fleets was planned but due to the fate of the first two expeditions and a political coup never started.
Perry Rhodan NEO (2011)
A retelling of the original Series with backdated / modernized mission parameters... now in 2036 STARDUST lands on the moon, the second rocketship STARCHILD (again both on top of a NOVA rocket, but more in line with the "post Saturn" design from the sixties, like a slightly oversized CONSTELLATION derivative as again the third stage is a shuttle like plane-design for landing and return-trip to Earth), reusing the crew names from STARDUST and GREYHOUND in the original series.    --5.146.47.75 (talk) 03:31, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Perry Rhodan has LOTS more of "proper" Astronauts... 

message: Just found on YouTube a 1970s film from Germany called Operation Ganymed which involves Astronauts sent to land on Jupiter(!) returning to Earth to find things have changed rather a lot.
The English version is about one and a half hours long:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YWq1vPKQ83I
The German version is about two hours long:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YKk0-ffo5M
Graham1973 (talk) 14:37, 2 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  A film you might want to look at Operation Ganymed 

message: Just to make clear, in listing all those titles in the "Additional entries" section above, I didn't intend to call dibs on all of them to do myself. I often end up adding titles faster than I remove them, and it would probably take the rest of my life to get through them all. I would greatly appreciate anyone else adding any of them to the list, although of course I'll continue to work on them also. Gildir (talk) 00:25, 7 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification 

message: I started this page years ago, in response to an itch I had. As a nerd, I was a huge fan of astronauts, and was passionately interested in the fictional variety; there was already a lot of information about real-life astronauts (heroes, every one), but vanishingly little about fictional ones that also inspired a love of science and a thrill to space exploration. Unfortunately, I lacked the willpower to finish the project; I was too easily daunted by the sheer amount of fiction that would need to be filtered to find them all. So, I lost the drive and left for a few years. I came back, and my little page of Wikipedia mushroomed, with editors just as passionate as myself contributing volumes of additional citations and references. I am humbled and ecstatic, and proud to be associated with this bunch. Thank you. --Roland 15:15, 6 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, Roland. Working on this list has given me great joy over the last few years, and none of it would have been possible without you. Gildir (talk) 20:44, 7 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thanks 

message: I've just added a short story I learned about in an online article. The article by Chris Peebles appeared in issue 91 of Magonia Magazine (Feb 2006) and discussed two science fiction stories describing phenomenon similar to the standard 'Alien Abduction' narrative and the first story he discussed was one ("Control Somnambule" by William Sambrot, published in the May 1962 issue of Playboy Magazine.) which had aliens abducting an astronaut on a solo Apollo mission experimenting on him and then returning him and his spacecraft to orbit as if nothing had happened. I've just added it to the list based on the details in the online article. However it is possible that the original magazine publication may have additional details not included in the article I read. The author is incredibly obscure, but a check of the ISFDb shows that the story has been reprinted in a short story collection called "Island of Fear" (in the 1960s) and in two Playboy short story collections "From the "S" File" and "Transit of Earth" (Both in the 1970s) which might be easier to locate than the original magazine publication.
Graham1973 (talk) 11:17, 22 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just added - Control Somnambule 

message: I have moved the Twilight Zone episode "The Parallel" from the "Counter-Earth" section back to the "Classic period" - "Mercury" section (where it originally was) because of the literal meaning of the tern "Counter-Earth". ("The Parallel" takes place in an alternate dimension, not on a parallel Earth on the far side of the sun.) Gildir (talk) 05:58, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Parallel" 

message: Why no mention of David Bowie's Major Tom? --2003:71:4E07:BB09:FC3A:9551:4E36:AD36 (talk) 12:49, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: He is on the list, in the "Gemini" section under Space Oddity. I was never satisfied with the only citation for him being a link to a YouTube video, but couldn't find a more satisfying reference (e.g. published sheet music of the song). Gildir (talk) 15:26, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Tom 

message: User:jd22292 has tagged the article as "very long"/"too long". (If all of my proposed "Additional entries" above were added, it would probably be twice as long as it is now!) Should we split the list into sub-articles? Perhaps make separate articles out of the main sections: "Early period", "Classic period", "Modern period" and "Futuristic"/"To infinity and beyond"? One problem with doing so is that some novels, such as Encounter with Tiber, Voyage and Mars Crossing, would be split between articles. Also, how could the article be condensed? Can some extremely long entries (e.g. Men into Space, Missing Man) be reduced in length? Should we drop the "TV commercials" section, which is subject to WP:Recentism anyway? What do others think? Gildir (talk) 16:57, 25 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now carried out the split, as can be seen from the "Copied" templates at the top of this page. I want to thank User: Diannaa for pointing out that I needed to maintain attribution to the original contributors on the new pages. Gildir (talk) 17:06, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too long? 

message: Just found this music video One Hundred Hunters by Nigel John Stanford. Has an unnamed US Astronaut sent to investigate an alien item found on the Moon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ky2rtCpbn7k
Unfortunately the maker mixed up Apollo and Gemini stock footage when he made the video.
Graham1973 (talk) 10:20, 15 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Graham, I'll look into it. Gildir (talk) 17:55, 17 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now added the video to List of fictional astronauts (Project Apollo era). Gildir (talk) 13:54, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another fictional American astronaut from a music clip 

message: I have stumbled across a YouTube Channel that has uploaded what appears to be the full season run of 'The Cape' including the Lost Cosmonauts episode "Buried in Peace", if I can find an online source for the names of the Cosmonauts (They are given in full in the episode) I will add them to the list.
The youtube channel is linked below.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLP644s4WLcSZLoAVtfrlfw/videos
Graham1973 (talk) 04:05, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Graham. I appreciate your adding this. It's always good to see more stuff added to these lists. Gildir (talk) 13:41, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: The Cape

message: I have deleted Coronet Blue: "Six Months to Mars" (1967) from my "Additional entries" to-do list without adding it to the main list for the same reason I did so with Perry Mason: "The Case of the Angry Astronaut" (1962) a few years ago. Both episodes involve "test astronauts" (i.e. bioastronautical test subjects), whom I don't consider eligible for inclusion, as opposed to "real" fictional astronauts. If the lists were expanded to include test astronauts, they would also have to include characters from Gog (1954 film) and at least one episode of The Man and the Challenge. Gildir (talk) 14:31, 15 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: ''Perry Mason'' and ''Coronet Blue'' episodes

message: Apple is launching a new streaming webseries devoted to the idea that the Soviets got to the Moon first and so the space race continues further on. Looks to be a lot of fictional astronauts. Here is their teaser trailer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZS9M52Bd_w
Graham1973 (talk) 05:30, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  For All Mankind - Alt-History Web Series. 

message: As shown in the summary for my previous edit, for the first time in a few years, someone other than me has added one of the items from my humongous to-do list to the main list (the Twilight Zone episode "Six Degrees of Freedom"). I am extremely pleased about this. As I've mentioned a few times before, I never meant to hog all those items for myself; in fact, it's unlikely I could ever get to them all in my lifetime. With prominent new and upcoming productions such as Ad Astra and For All Mankind featuring fictional astronauts, these lists need the assistance of lots of editors to reach a more nearly complete form. Gildir (talk) 13:39, 24 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Further to the above comment, an IP address editor has now added For All Mankind to the main list. Gildir (talk) 04:44, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thank you -- help needed