Talk:Dmitry Bortniansky

message: I rewrote almost every sentence, mostly to get rid of somewhat odd language. His operas were added, and I will still add a list of his better known choral and instrumental works.
Also, as an informative article, more should be added about his use of classicism as well as folk tunes throughout his compositions.--tufkaa 01:00, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite

message: I suggest the use of O.S./N.S. indication to clarify date figures concerning pre-revolutionary Russia. (At least, the ones with month and day.) In the 18th and 19th centuries Russia was one of the few countries to stick to the Julian calendar - using different sources one frequently is labored to double-check which patricular calendar style was implied by the authors. Emi  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.12.180.241 (talk) 13:58, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've put the birth and death dates in the lead, with os and ns dates for the death date.  But for the birth date I haven't discovered whether "28 October" is a Julian or Gregorian date.  I'd assume the former, as there's no source I can find that's translated it to the Gregorian equivalent, 8 November.  But I don't know that for sure.  --  JackofOz (talk) 02:26, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do either of you know the source for the 28 October date?  The article in the most recent New Grove (2001) (by Marika Kuzma) only gives 1751 for his birth; normally they are up-to-date on such details, and if they don't give a birthdate it is usually because it is not known.  Slonimsky in Baker's (early 1990s) also gives only "1751".  Antandrus  (talk) 02:31, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was in the article from Day 1 (8 June 2004).  I’ve just asked the creater, User:JamesTeterenko about the source of the information.  The date now appears in many places, judging from a Google search, but I’ve seen nothing that explains its original source.  It’s just possible that they’ve all got the information from Wikipedia.  I'll wait to hear from James, but in the meantime I'll mark it as "citation required".  --  JackofOz (talk) 04:09, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The two sources that JamesTeterenko has just inserted support the birth year 1751, but make no mention of the precise date 28 October.  --  JackofOz (talk) 03:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Take another look, they both do.  Before the paragraphs start, they both give his full birthdate.  -- JamesTeterenko (talk) 18:41, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My error.  Yes, they both do.  (Odd ... I could have sworn I checked those 2 links out, and they weren't the ones that are there now.  But the edit history tells me otherwise.  Maybe time to see my shrink.)  Sorry about that.  --  JackofOz (talk) 23:22, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd really like to know where those 2 sources got their information from.  The date "28 October 1751" is now all over the internet as his birthdate, in most cases mirrors of our article, but I've found nowhere that even discusses which calendar it uses, let alone provides the corresponding date in the other calendar.  If the authoritative music references aren't prepared to state his exact birthdate - in any calendar - how can Find-a-Grave be so sure?  I'm going to remove Find-a-Grave as a source, because it gets its info from other places and can't be regarded as a reliable source.  --  Jack of Oz [your turn] 23:55, 22 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old Style/New Style date indication 

message: I've reviewed this article as part of the Composers project review of its B-class articles.  This article is a very weak B (borderline Start -- you decided); it is sketchy and provides basic background, but it does actually cover most of the topics I expect to see in a composer article (which is why I tip towards B).  My full review is on the Comments page; questions and comments should be left here or on my talk page. Magic♪piano 22:44, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Composer project review

message: Substituted at 13:32, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

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