Talk:Marzipan

message: I removed the phase saying that marzipan was "from the baltic coast of Germany". Marzipan is made in many other places. Possibly what was meant to be said was that marzipan was invented originated there? If so, please say so more clearly, rather than saying that being from there is part of the definition of marzipan. Cheers, -- Infrogmation 18:08, 23 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment 1

message: An anon editor added the below text to the article. This isn't mentioned at  http://www.aussieslang.com/ so I thought to be safe I'd move it here until this can be confirmed and commented on by an editor fluent in Australian slang. -- Infrogmation 07:51, 13 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Australian slang? 

message: Marzipan is also available in other parts of Southern India. It is available in old city region of Hyderabad city in Southern India and considered an expensive sweet.The traditional "[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nawab"]'Nawabs'[\url]" rich and elite families use it as wedding gifts. It comes in two varieties and uses almonds and sugar for one and Pistachios and sugar for the other.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.191.200.135 (talk) 15:42, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Availability

message: Lübeck and the surrounding area were Germanized by Henry the Lion in the 12th century. Please provide documentation - if possible - for this claim before putting it back. Septentrionalis 02:29, 25 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: 8th century?

message: I personally like marzipan, but my father is totally unable to eat it or even get it near his mouth. He says that bringing it anywhere near his face results in retching and a perceived need to throw up. I've heard of others who say they can't eat marzipan, as well. Is this due to the chemical make-up of marzipan, say the presence of some chemical that only a minority of people are able to detect, or is it less interesting? Hammerite 20:28, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably an allergy on nuts or almonds?--Kresspahl 20:46, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I hate marzipan.  It's got a horrible taste and smell.  I'm not alergic to it though.  My father is the same.--Strato 15:50, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a shame. I love marzipan. Stochastic 23:44, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inability to eat / extreme aversion? 

message: I'm from Germany and i noticed that in this article, and in the English wikipedia at all, there is no reference to Persipan. Is it unknown in the English speaking world? It is very widespread in Germany. The taste is very similar to marzipan, and most (German) customers are even unable to recognize persipan by taste. They think it's marzipan. It was originally a marzipan replacement, but became a normal 
part of German cuisine since WWII. Persipan is often used by German confectioneries, if they want a more "fruity" taste for their products. In fact persipan is a marzipan, were the almonds are replaced by the stones(!) of peaches or/and apricots.
Is this really unknown outside Germany?86.56.0.159 11:00, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not exactly. I think the issue is the definition of Marzipan outside of Germany, Italy and perhaps a few other places. In those two countries, Marzipan is specifically defined as containing almond; outside those countries, it may contain apricot kernels. So, Marzipan, as it exists in other countries, may be equivalent to either Marzipan or Persipan in Germany. (This is mostly an educated guess, I'd have to research this to verify it. Note also that I'd never previously known the name Persipan.) Mindmatrix 14:19, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Persipan known in the English speaking world?

message: "Under EU law, marzipan must have a minimum almond oil content of 14% and a maximum moisture content of 8.5%." And how does EU law deal with marchpane that does not meet this requirement, does it simply classify it as "not marzipan" (or something else)? Myrtone
:No need to deal with it. Calling it Marzipan would be against the rule, so the manufacturer would have to call it something else, like "almond paste" or something. Pipatron (talk) 00:21, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  EU law 

message: This article claims that marzipan and mazapán are the same thing. In México, mazapán is a type of candy that is made out of peanuts, and it's eaten all year round. I am mexican, and I grew up eating it.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.86.123.180 (talk • contribs) 
:Quite probably its origin is the same but the almond nuts had to be substituted for whichever else what available in America (i.e. cacahuates). Regards, Asteriontalk 07:37, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Nope. Mexican Mazapan and Spanish Mazapán are as different as Mexican tortillas and Spanish tortilla. One is named like the other due to a vague passing resemblance. Mexican Mazapan is not a paste at all. It's crushed peanuts and powdered sugar compressed into a crumbly hockey puck.2601:1C2:5000:1472:7D59:1F6D:8A31:F794 (talk) 21:26, 13 February 2022 (UTC)

text: Well, I didn't write this article, but I am watching it. My thoughts are that your sources are better than the article's! Please feel free to expand and correct it. Melchoir 21:51, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm actually going to Luebeck in less than two weeks for a couple of days. I will wait until then before expanding the article. Basically, I will use this chance to try to find out more info on Luebecker Marzipan too. Cheers, E  Asterion u talking to me? 16:58, 4 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm agreeing with the OP IP user... Mazapán is not the same as marzipan. Mazapán is made of ground peanuts, it is not a paste, it is closer to a rough powder, it can't be shaped easily, can only be pressed into fragile shapes (typically as a hockey puck shaped disk) that explodes into powder chunks at the slightest disturbance. A reduced oil peanut butter is closer to marzipan than mazapán is, and I don't think anyone is going to claim that peanut butter is marzipan. — al-Shimoni (talk) 21:32, 14 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mazapán 

message: As far as I can see, there is no US definition of almond paste or marzipan.  I've changed the article to reflect that.  Wish there were one, kind of.Bonitakale 16:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  US definition of marzipan 

message: Could anyone explain please why this category applies to Marzipan? There is no reason given in the article for this categorization. --Catgut (talk) 04:46, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Further, aren't some of the articles listed in that category really just "Christmas foods", and Christmas just happens to occur in winter... Mindmatrix 14:33, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Winter cuisine? 

message: There is a claim "The only marzipan museum in the world was opened in 1988 in the Israeli village of Kfar Tavor, Lower Galilee". However, there is a picture in the article from "the Budapest Marzipan Museum". I think this is quite contradictory. I will remove the reference to the Kfar Tavor museum altogether. I think it would be pointless to state "There is a marzipan museum in Kfar Tavor," as there could in theory be hundreds of similar museums all over the world, i.e. some kind of citation would be needed to prove that this is really something special. I will also remove the claim regarding the "only marzipan museum" from the page for Kfar Tavor. --Ruebezahl (talk) 12:02, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is also a marzipan museum in Lubeck.86.184.68.196 (talk) 16:52, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marzipan museum 

message: It's unlikely that this is true since bitter almonds are poisonous
--83.57.62.116 (talk) 16:17, 20 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree it sounds unlikely and it contradicts the marzipan article. I'll change it.Francis Davey (talk) 13:14, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bitter almonds constituting 4% to 6% of the total almond content by weight 

message: Would it be possible to change the caption from "the EU (before its latest expansion)" to "the EU" and then the year it was made in brackets? 151.226.208.98 (talk) 08:45, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caption of EU Marzipan Picture 

message: A vague memory from grade school: story was that a besieged city was forced to make bread out of confectionary materials like a sugar paste or whatever rather than wheat. Maybe there was a bit about "ingenious" bakers.--Jrm2007 (talk) 16:25, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Bread of War" etymology possibility? 

message: This article is full of unsourced speculation, marked with "citation needed" tags everywhere, some of which are years old. I propose to apply WP:TNT and blow up this horrible text. God is great. Some day there will be a Wikipedian who will be able to write a good Marzipan article. Until then I frankly prefer our readers not to find one here, if that would be the current text. Maybe we could save one sentence defining the sweet and leave it together with a picture album. My two cents. --Why should I have a User Name? (talk) 19:27, 6 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Original research

message: ...so I will Talk:
 It is true, that what I put up would benefit from more in-line citations, but most of what I wrote, directed to existing pages with lots of sources. I cannot accept the revert. 
If anyone is unsatisfied with the text, citation needed tags should be inserted in the few places that does not already direct to wiki pages with sources. And best of all: help supply sources, as what I wrote is clearly and obviously not non-sense, original research or PR bullsh*te. RhinoMind (talk) 01:37, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  I was Reverted 

message: I have added some statements in the article and added a section for scientific analysis related to marzipan. I hope to add more on the section in the future, because marzipan has interesting molecular behavior, which leads to why it is so pliable and other physical properties. I feel other people should know more about the science that goes into marzipan.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by PenguinsEatingScience2 (talk • contribs) 20:34, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Science

message: The overwhelming evidence is that Marizpan originated in Persia, and this is the majority view by culinary historians.  It's odd that there is no mention of Persia in the history section.   I've gone ahead and added it and it was removed.  I will re-add it with sources.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.121.72.7 (talk) 15:43, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: "With sources" is very much the key. Since the evidence is overwhelming, and it's the majority view, you should have no trouble finding really good sources. --jpgordon𝄢𝄆 𝄐𝄇  16:06, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin Persia 

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message: Why is a citation required here? This is completely obvious. Millions of people are participating in this tradition each year. 84.87.181.27 (talk) 16:56, 17 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Except, it is not just given with Sinterklaasavond (Saint Nicolas' Eve). It can be given as pressent before 5 December. Dqfn13 (talk) 11:58, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marzipan figures and Sinterklaas 

message: Removed a claim that blanching reduces hydrogen cyanide content after checking the 2013 edition of the cited source on Google Books. Was unable to find support for the claim anywhere in the referenced text. The assertion might possibly be supported in a different edition of that reference, or elsewhere?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Durova 2 (talk • contribs) 22:54, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That was inserted in these four edits by User:PenguinsEatingScience2 in December 2016. The text in "Production" that was added by me in 2012 in this edit and this edit were sourced to the 2009 edition of the book. I agree with the deletion of the text inserted afterward, but I'm restoring the portion of the deleted text that was properly sourced. Mindmatrix 23:37, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds fair. Thank you. Durova 2 (talk) 23:53, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  HCN and blanching 

message: It's a completely different candy made from compressed peanuts and powdered sugar. That's all. 2601:1C2:5000:1472:7D59:1F6D:8A31:F794 (talk) 21:23, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Mexican candy Mazapan is ''not'' Marzipan.