Talk:2008 Republican Party presidential candidates

message: I know a wikitable would be impossible on many issues that can't be accurately summarized with short answers, but I think it would be a worthwhile effort. For those who don't know what a wikitable is check http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_wiki_software  williameis 02:05, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  We need a wikitable of candidate viewpoints 

message: Ron Paul will declare his candidacy tomorrow, so someone bump him up tomorrow morning.  --Kalmia 22:42, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Ron Paul]] to declare 

message: I'd like to move the table with the main Republican candidates into a template and transclude it onto this page and 2008 Presidential Candidates. Please comment at Talk:2008_Presidential_Candidates#Transcluding_Democratic_and_Republican_candidates. Λυδαcιτγ 05:05, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transclusion into [[2008 Presidential Candidates]] 

message: A lot of editors don't apparently realize that an external link is NOT satisfactory as a citation; a correct citation includes the publication, the date of the publication, the title of the article or page, and the author, if any.  Here's an example, for the article, of a good footnote:
* Stinebaker, Joe. "Rep. Ron Paul to run for president", The Dallas Morning News, 2007-03-11. Retrieved on 2007-03-11
Footnotes that consist solely of URLs are a disaster in the waiting; when the URL goes bad, the footnote is worthless (or worse than worthless, because is may have deterred someone else from actually doing a good citation).  By comparision, if a full citation has a bad URL, the citation is still quite useful.
So I encourage editors who are interested in the quality of this page (which probably has a lot of readers) to improve it by fixing the  footnotes so that they are real citations, not just URLs, and editors who add external links to add full citations, not just the links themselves. 
(I realize that some editors may think "fix the references yourself"; I'm posting this here for editors who don't realize that it's just a little more effort to do a full citation, and much, much better for Wikipedia.) -- John Broughton   (♫♫) 22:49, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor formatting of references 

message: Cox should be under declared for nationwide campaigners.  He is running nationwide, and this article skews it that he isn't.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Casey14 (talk • contribs) 00:02, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cox-nationwide Campaign

message: I am about to delete Mike Shinoda's name from the listing. Being only 30, he is not qualified for the office of president, and, even with citation, his campaign would not be anything more than a joke. Any opposition?Jpatch 21:27, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shinoda for PREZ? 

message: This has been discussed on the template for 2008 Election page.  Cox has been invited and will attend a major MSNBC debate on Nov 7, thus solidifing him as a national candidate.  Please add him.  Casey14 02:45, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually agree with this now.  I was among those who was against Cox moving up, but with the Iowa straw poll results + this, I agree that he belongs with the others.  --Aranae 03:00, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: John Cox a a major candidate, to appear in MSNBC debate

message: The order these candidates are presented in makes no sense to me. I think the best NPOV way to do this is to list them alphabetically by last name. The only other NPOV method would be to base placement on polls but that is unreliable and constantly changing from day to day. Neovita 18:16, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur. Suggest the page maintainer(s) give this idea due consideration. Kerojack, Argenta 20:55, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What is up with the order?

message: What does his stance on evolution have to do with his running for president? I would like to remove this reference, but someone reverts me when I try. 198.151.179.236 19:23, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It gives an indication on his outlook on certain matters of "faith". Evolution is still a theory to some.Kerojack, Argenta 02:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huckabee on evolution 

message: I won't cross post this on the Democrat page, but in essence Mr. Colbert tried to get on the ballot for both parties, and wouldn't pay the $35,000 required by the Republicans, and did manage the $2,500 entrance fee for the Democrats but reputedly was considered to be running as a joke and for that reason alone he never got on the ballot with the Democrats. OK, he did declare himself a Presidential Candidate, but only as a "favorite son" in the State of South Carolina. In view of his high profile, I believe he merits a mention, however small, on both pages. Kerojack, Argenta 02:18, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Stephen Colbert]] 

message: Wouldn't any person in the country who didn't seek a nomination fit under this heading? Like, really...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 142.150.48.183 (talk) 04:56, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Declined to seek nomination? 

message: The most glaring problem with the national candidates is that the official logos are not all the same size. I don't have time to fix this (one needs to upload the images and a thumbnail version, I guess, and I don't know how to do this). But Ron Paul has an official logo (at http://www.ronpaul2008.com/get-involved/downloads/) and it should be up instead of that silly-looking poster. John McCain's logo should be larger to conform with the width of the others. I can't find a Tancredo logo gif, but there must be one somewhere. Can someone please take care of this? Thanks.Sxp151 (talk) 16:51, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terrible formatting 

message: "Giuliani is pro-choice, and supports a type of civil union between same sex couples and agrees for legal and medical reasons that same sex relationships should get the same rights under the law. He also believes in strong restrictions on the right to keep and bear arms and agrees with harsh punishment for illegal weapons or non permitted weapons."
That needs changing, since it no longer really represents Giuliani's current view points. In the 1990s and early 2000s, Giuliani's statements used to reflect that he was solidly pro-gun control and pro-civil unions (and possibly even pro-gay marriage). But more recently he has changed several of his stances on social policy. He's now more or less abandoned his former position on guns. On gay rights, he now says that civil unionss go to far and that if a few states legalize gay marriage laws he would support a Federal Marriage Amendment, although he is still in favor of domestic partnerships and non-discrimination laws. And may also be noteworthy that he isn't completely pro-choice any more (he's changed on partial birth, consent, federal funding and judicial appointments, and NARAL now list him as "mixed choice" instead of "pro-choice.") And he's more to the right on immigration than he used to be. 82.152.200.188 (talk) 17:15, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Giuliani 

message: All delegates selected from a state party caucus, unless otherwise specified, are unbound. Please read the description in the list of Republican primary and caucuses. In addition, CNN is allocating delegates proportionally (http://www.cnn.com/ELECTION/2008/primaries/results/state/#IA), while AP is allocating delegates assuming that county conventions will pass their choices up to congressional district conventions... which would result in a winner-take-all system by geography, resulting in the breakdown shown (http://www.iowagop.net/) and a 30/7 Huckabee/Romney split as projected by AP. This needs to either be blanked or clarified that these are not "results", but estimates by AP and CNN. Calwatch (talk) 08:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Delegates selected from caucuses

message: Perhaps edits of this page should be limited to established editors. Vandals keep reverting the statement that Ron Paul has won the majority of GOP straw polls - as demonstrated by the linked article. And this without comment in the talk section. JLMadrigal (talk) 23:33, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please stop making this claim: Alan Keyes became a candidate September 14, 2007. Sarcasticidealist (talk) 05:29, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Ron Paul winner of most GOP straw polls

message: Maybe I'm missing the point of the page, but United States Republican Party presidential nomination, 2008 seems awfully useless, and at passing glance it does not look like there is any information on that page that is not included on this page. The article also appears to be abandoned; it is not categorized in any election related category and has been updated sparingly since 2007. Or am I mistaken and this page is being reserved for use at the convention? 青い(Aoi) (talk) 07:06, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really see any useful information in United States Republican Party presidential nomination, 2008.  It's all out-dated and speculation at that.  I would just put a deletion request in for "United States Republican Party presidential nomination, 2008".  --Bark (talk) 15:20, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Bark that the article should be deleted. It's a mess, and serves no apparently useful function.--JayJasper (talk) 18:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agree with merger/deletion.  It should probably just redirect to this article. -- Macduff (talk) 19:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

text:  That would be the simplest, and probably most sensible, move.--JayJasper (talk) 21:43, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeing a clear consensus building, I decided to be bold and redirect the page to this article. If anyone has a strong objection to the move, or a better idea, it can always be reverted. But I had a sense that this would be an acceptable move.--JayJasper (talk) 23:14, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: There any reason Huckabee is nowhere to be found on this page? 66.191.250.7 (talk) 14:44, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where's Mike? 

message: ' He has a strong stance on many issues and economically falls more along the lines of traditional "fiscal conservatism." '
McCain is not fiscally conservative by any stretch of the imagination. He has stated that he will keep our troops in Iraq for 100 years, which would  cost (at least) trillions and trillions of dollars. The statement is so false it is laughable. Elodoth (talk) 16:48, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's all relative POV on a wide-ranging political spectrum, but since that wasn't cited (namely, who said this/thinks this), I agree with it's removal.  --Bark (talk) 16:57, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. It's really not POV that the Iraq War has cost trillions of dollars already, though. It's easily citable. Elodoth (talk) 17:45, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the original author of that might have been thinking of McCain's outspoken criticism of pork barrel spending. I agree with Bark, though. It's just relative opinion and I agree with its removal. -kotra (talk) 18:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  This statement is incorrect 

message: John Cox and Keyes both need to be listed on this page as candidadates that had/have national campaigns.  00:10, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cox and Keyes

message: In the section on candidates who did not run, it says that Condoleezza Rice endorsed McCain. But I can't find any evidence she did so -- in fact, a google search brings up articles about her NOT making an endorsement -- and I clearly remember an interview late in the general election campaign where she said she had decided who she was voting for but wouldn't say which candidate it was. I'm going to change it to say that she never endorsed any candidate.68.194.217.223 (talk) 16:49, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Condoleezza Rice endorsement 

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