Talk:Brisbane/Brisvegas archive

message: I assume the "Vegas" comes from Las Vegas? The article should say it, because folks who don't make that connection will be very puzzled by this name, wondering, perhaps, why it is insulting to be compared to the star Vega. - DavidWBrooks 19:12, 20 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening comment 

message: This page should not be deleted oh English person. Brisbane is widely referred to as BV. While I think this page is garbage, I'm chuffed that it's here. It should be improved, not deleted.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.104.150.186 (talk) 13:11, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually the term Brissie is far more popular than Bris Vegas which is not widely used in the city itself. The term River City is used about as much as Bris Vegas and these are used only occassionly. Notice the BBC reference suggests "some people" use the term possibily in relation to nightlife...who does? I believe the Bris Vegas tag is really an attempt at a putdown by those ignorant of what the city has had to offer. This very minor pejorative term is too vague, it has no notability and should be deleted. - Shiftchange (talk) 21:57, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Never really heard of Bris Vegas. Aaroncrick(Tassie Boy talk) 07:50, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I had never heard of Bris Vegas, either, until I read the term in Wikipedia.  Figaro (talk) 12:59, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's lucky to rate a mention on the Brisbane article, clearly NOT its own article, which will remain in stub purgatory forever.--Jeff79 (talk) 09:59, 25 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brisvegas should remain 

message: Clearly anyone from Brisbane uses Brisvegas which is how this term should appear not the two word version.
Southerners might have used it disparagely once upon a time although I have only ever heard Brisbanites use it. Pretty much we use it as a term of endearment about the place. At least I do. I'm off to Brisvegas soon...etc etc. I've also never heard it emanating from the beginning of the casino. I'd go along with it appearing in the late 90's though and I think the casino was here long before that. Scovaisme (talk) 21:29, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brisvegas v Bris Vegas 

message: The term started getting exposure as a swipe from Southerners at Brisbane when it opened the casino in the mid 90's. 
As a Bisbanite, I use the term. I also us Brissie. Both BrisVegas and Brissie should be included in the Brisbane Wiki Entry, not as independent entries.
2 April 09
I cringe upon hearin "BrisVegas". Perhaps, it is because I come from the more culturally refined City of Melbourne. But I must say, this is a lame term at best and disgustingly sycophantic towards the US at worst. What a shame. 119.161.71.12 (talk) 00:27, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  General comment 

message: It's just too small to be considered an article I think. As a few people have mentioned already, it's another word for Brisbane. So why not just merge it into the Brisbane article? N5606705 (talk) 02:58, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: agree, merge phocks (talk) 03:10, 10 August 2009 (UTC)

text: agree, merge ASAP.  It would enrich the rather dull Brisbane article with some life Leeshipley (talk) 00:46, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  This has to be merged 

message: Brisvegas is a name given to Brisbane to show how culturally philistine the place is and also to depict the city as incredibly corrupt where fast money buys anybody or anything and knocks down any building with any heritage value and replaces it with a tacky highrise where a sleazy developer can make money at the expense of the common good of the people of Brisbane. Finneganw 14:04, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur with this insight as to the general use of ‘'BrisVegas'. Also note that although it is a derogative term, in true Aussie style, it is embraced by Brisbanites as a way of acknowledging the many things lacking in the city. A Brisbanite can freely use this term, and it is never considered an indication that they do not truly love their city. MyFavco (talk) 02:14, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

text: I also agree. Being Brisvegan, many of my friends refer to Brisvegas, or even just Vegas. But for us it also reflects how there is very little to do, nightlife wise, in comparison to other nightlife cities, like Las Vegas. The saying amongst our friends is "Brisvegas, the city that always sleeps" or "Brisneyland, Where the fun stops". As part of the humour it involves a "tongue in cheek" love of the place too though. Many Brisvegans are proud of the term. From local lore, there was a t-shirt seller in the Valley markets who use to sell the shirt. That needs clarifying though.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Greggycollins (talk • contribs) 05:48, 8 January 2010 (UTC)

text: I believe the term is far older than people are saying. I think I first saw it in the The Cane Toad Times or at least in that era. It was not about casinos. It was about the kind of shows on offer in Las Vegas. My recollection is of some kind of sneer from a theatre reviews that Brisbane audiences weren't turning up in their droves to some avant-garde theatrical performance because all Brisbane audiences were too unsophisticated for such productions and only wanted to see Las Vegas style productions. Kerry (talk) 11:03, 11 June 2013 (UTC)

text: I agree that it is older than people are saying.  My recollection is from the early 1980s. There was a well known international hamburger restaurant on the corner of Queen and Albert streets, with an amusement arcade next to it on Albert St called Las Vegas.   High school students of the early 1980s would say "Meet you at BrisVegas" meaning to meet in the queen st mall near that corner.   They continued it when they grew old enough to travel. I remember hearing someone say "You wouldn't see this in Brisvegas" while enjoying the night life somewhere in Europe. (RosBardon)  Rosbardon (talk) 03:11, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Meaning of Brisvegas

message: The term ‘Brisvegas’ was first coined by Ray Pope in 1987 in correspondence to several friends while he was travelling in Amsterdam. The son of English parents he emigrated with them and his sister Katherine to Brisbane in the early 1970’s. He grew up in the strait-laced era of the Bjelke-Petersen Governments which at the time epitomised conservative right wing politics. He used the term ironically. In pre Expo 88 times, Brisbane was far from the glitz of Las Vegas. Expo 88 changed the city forever. Whether it resembles the desert city of Nevada is unlikely, it was never meant to be a literal reference. Ray was an extraordinary character with a vivid imagination who had an enormous capacity to communicate with a wide collection of friends. An avid oarsmen, mountain biker, surveyor, husband and father, he was tragically cut down by cancer well before his time.
It is noted there is no evidence of this correspondence. Therefore, the only real evidence is that of the alternative genesis theory. That is the theory that in fact noted luminary Matthew Isabella created the term in 1998
 This is all unsupported and unverifiable which is not permitted in Wikipedia articles (see below) .  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.45.86.132 (talk) 05:57, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  BrisVegas - Who coined the term ? 

message: Not to disparage the previous poster - whom deleted my post which I inserted in 2016 the origin of this is clearly evidenced from the facts. The facts being, in October 1998, Matthew Isabella was at a Flight Centre at Robina Town Centre purchasing a flight to the United States of America. 
During this transaction, Matthew, whom is very good at wordsmith was viewing a brochure for Las Vegas, while during this perusal, he was interrupted by an incredibly painful and talkative sales consultant - Louse Channels, who was known by Matthew at the time, as Louse was the cousin of Michelle a girl Matthew was at the time dating. Louse asked Matt where we was staying that weekend and Matt said "Bris Vegas" - Louse laughed as had never heard that before, and as Matt had just said it - it was clear this is where the word came from. 
The poster who deleted mine - and added his version of history is wrong as Matthew has three witnesses to this event and also had relations with Louse that night on his Aunts Couch. Bris Vegas was coined by Matthew Gennaro Isabella on 21 October 1998.
:This is all unreferenced original research which is not permitted in Wikipedia articles. Cullen328 (talk) 18:30, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who coined the term Brisvegas? An alternative genisis theory. 

message: I don't mind that others make this claim, but I would like the real reason the term was invented to be known. A simple reason by an ordinary blue collar worker, that actually makes sense and has relevance to Brisbane history.
The Term Brisvegas was coined in the mid 90's by James Cockburn. It was a direct reference to the Treasury building being converted to The Treasury Casino (check the Treasury Casino rebuild time for confirmation). 
Any Brisbanites who were in the city in those days should know exactly what I am talking about.
Prior to that Brisbane was a quite city, and James coined the term as a joke saying "Oh, what are we, Brisvegas now?" 
At that time James worked for P&O Cold Storage as a forklift operator and order picker in -30 degree freezers, distributing Australia wide to Sizzlers and KFC and on every pallet for the sender location James wrote Brisvegas. The bosses never complained so he did this for years, spreading the term Australia wide. 
Since then a lot of people have claimed to be the originators of the term but NONE of them know the true inspiration, The Treasury Casino. James Peter Cockburn (talk) 18:31, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: *Wikipedia Talk pages are not a forum for OR or soapboxing, but feel free to make an edit request that includes reliable sources to back up your assertion. Star Mississippi 18:45, 14 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Truth by Jim