Talk:Billiard ball

message: True or false: This color system of Billiard balls is the one used in the United States, but Canada has its own color system (e.g. it might have 3=yellow although the United States has 1=yellow). 66.32.95.37 18:25, 2 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I just came from a year and a half in Canada, and aside from a Canadian company producing coin-op tables that are fairly common over there (and, with real wood, look much nicer than the Dynamo and Valley ones we see in the US, which are also dominant in Canada), they use the same equipment the US and just about everyone else does.  See saluc.com - there is no Canadian pool set. For pool, they have the "American-style" (intl. standard) set, and the WEPF/Blackball "English style" without numbers; they are THE major manufacturer, by a very wide margin (even Elephant doesn't come close, though they've been featured in a tournament or two). — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 08:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Canada uses different colors?

message: I think the part on the Australian terminology is ambiguous/unclear.  Can someone reword this for clarity?Oreo Priest 05:11, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That segment no longer appears to exist; I would suspect that all of it has been merged into the Glossary of pool, billiards and snooker terms. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 08:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Australian terms

message: In the UK and Ireland, I have often heard the balls used in snooker referred to as billiard balls. I don't know about US usage, but I'd like to add a definition to the start of this article saying that billiard balls in general can refer to the balls used in any of the various forms of billiards. RMoloney 13:36, 7 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: They are also slightly smaller and may weigh more that pool balls. 128.6.176.51 19:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

text: The article definitely addresses snooker balls now in sufficient detail for this article and links to the main article on the topic for more depth. Marking topic "Resolved".— SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 08:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Snooker 

message: I think there should be a merger between the Cue ball article to this one. 128.6.176.51 19:43, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No kidding!  Will look into that. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 08:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger 

message: Especially for nine-ball but also for eight-ball, one-pocket, and even snooker, etc., I firmly think we need to come to, and as editors enforce in article texts, a consensus on spelling conventions and implement it consistently throughout all of the cue sports Wikepedia articles.  I advocate (and herein attempt to justify) a system of standardized spellings, based on 1) general grammar rules; 2) basic logic; and 3) disambiguation.
This is a draft submission to the active editor community of billiards-related articles on Wikipedia.  It is intended to ultimately end up being something like "[[Wikipedia:[something:]Billiards/Spelling guidelines]]", or part of an official Wikipedia cue sports article-shepherding Project, likely it's first documentation output.
Anyway, please help me think this through.  The point is not for me to become world famous™ for having finally codified billiards terms and united the entire English-speaking world in using them (hurrah).  I simply want the articles here on pool and related games to be very consistent in application of some new consensus Wikipedia editing standards about spelling/phrasing of easily confusable billards terms that may be ambiguous to many readers in the absence of that standard.  
Compare:
# "While 9-ball is a 9-ball game, the 9-ball is the real target; pocket it in a 9-ball run if you have to, but earlier is better." (Huh?)
# "While nine-ball is a nine ball game, the 9 ball is the real target; pocket it in a nine ball run if you have to, but earlier is better." (Oh, right!)
That's the super-simple "use case" I make for this proposed nomenclature. If you think that the differentiation didn't cut it please TELL ME, and say how you would improve it.
So, here's the article draft so far (please do not edit it directly! Post on its Discussion page instead; thanks.):
User:SMcCandlish/Pool_terms
(PS: This intro text is repeated at the top of it.)  — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 04:59, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Marking this topic "Resolved" as the document in question is now "live" at :WP:CUESPELL and has its own talk page for any further discussion. — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 08:52, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please review: Consensus and consistency needed on spelling to prevent ambiguity &amp; confusion 

message: A sphere's "size", for any purposes relevant to this article, is its diameter, so we do not need longer-winded phrases like "size, including diameter". That will just be confusing to the reader - "what other kind of size could this mean?". — SMcCandlish [talk] [contrib] ツ 19:24, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sphere

message: I was trying to find more information on this person ( John Wesley Hyatt ) because he has a "stub" as a bio.  I noticed that I couldn't find anything claiming he won that $10,000 prize.  I did find a site claiming that he never won the prize [].
Anyways, the site I listed might not be as reliable as the one the article is sourced on.  None the less, I'm not preforming any major changes until some of the Cue Sport project contributors can react.  On a different note, if anyone has any good sources they haven't had time to explore for cue sport bio's, the info would be really helpful.  It will take some time for me to compile credible sources for all the bio's that need to be expanded/created. Donny417 04:28, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hell if that "gospel" is challengeable, then by all means challege it! — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont]  ‹(-¿-)› 09:35, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Hyatt 

message: An unreliable source (no author, no references, clearly someone gathering facts and alleged facts from all over and assembling them without any personal expertise) has some interesting bits on this, but it is not enough to include this tale in the article here: .  That a flammable material might ignite during manufacturing is one thing, but just from the friction of impact on the pool table is rather hard to credit.  I strongly suspect that this is simply a mis-remembered or intentionally exaggerated "adaptation" of the story of  Willie Hoppe or someone even before his time, having a clay ball split into two during a championship or challenge match, because the table was too close to an open window in the wintertime and the balls hardened in the cold (in this story, the shot was going to score, but the ball split in two after coming off the cushion, and the two halves forked, of course, away from each other, neither hitting the object ball. The ref ruled that it was a miss, and an "act of God", but that if either half had struck the object ball, it would have been a legal point.) — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont]  ‹(-¿-)› 00:56, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Exploding celluloid balls

message: I saw pictures of #16 balls, #17 balls, #18 balls, #19 balls, #20 balls, and even #21 balls on Google! Go find them if you don't believe me!--Mathexpressions 04:20, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? Why the combative tone? How could anyone present the stance that they don't believe you, before you've even presented anything to disbelieve?  Aside from that fact that "I saw it on Google!" is about the most meaningless thing that could possibly be said, in this case you happen to be correct (by chance, having found something real instead of random photoshop hijinks).  See Baseball pocket billiards.  This is hardly news.  :-)  — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont]  ‹(-¿-)› 08:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I cannot find any images of these balls online. Anyone able to upload these?? Georgia guy (talk) 22:49, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  21 Ball 

message: It is true 52.5 mm is close to 2 1⁄15 inches. But, as mentioned in inch article, "Subdivisions of an inch are typically written using dyadic fractions". What means they should be powers of two, for example 1/2, 1/4, 1/8, 1/16 and 1/32. Though it requires quite large divider to get close enough to 52.5 mm. 85.217.33.150 (talk) 15:35, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Snooker ball size in inches 

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message: Please see Talk:Billiard table#English dialect; the discussion there about which variant of English to use has implications for this article as well.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ >ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ<  13:09, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  English dialect 

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message: The article makes no mention of the game if billiards.  Played with three ivory balls, historically. 166.181.80.62 (talk) 18:52, 3 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Billiards