Talk:6th Marine Division (United States)

message: Should the 6th Division's service at Tsingtao be stated as "Occupation"? (branched off the above discussion)
I've been looking into it.  The Marine Corps, Navy, and Department of Defense, all do not consider the service of forces in China after WWII as Occupation nor Occupation duty.  Further, it was clear that the Chinese were (theoretically) in full control
However, there are various sources refering to the 6th's time in Tsingtao as occupation.  Namely:
* page 18 of Sixth Marine Division, prepared by James R. Stockman, Captain, U.S. Marine Corps, Historical Division, Headquarters, U.S. Marine Corps
* page 12 8 of Marine Corps Historical Reference Pamphlet: The United States Marines in North China 1945—1949 by Henry I. Shaw, Jr., Printed 1960, Revised 1962, reprinted 1968, Historical Branch, G-3 Division, Headquarters, U.S. Marine Corps, Washingto, D.C.
* page 23 of The 3d Marine Division and Its Regiments, by Reference Section, Historical Branch, 1983, History and museums Division, Headquarters, U.S. Marine Corps, Washington, D.C.
* I also found an article titled (but have not been able to find said article): "Occupation at Tsing Tao," Marine Corps Gazette, v.29, no. 1 (Jan-45) by 1stLt Alan T. Shilin
Gen. Shepherd himself refered to it as occupation duty (see the above mentioned Sixth Marine Division source by Stockman), while still twice refered to their mission as assisting the Chinese, namely: "to assist local authorities in maintaining order.... and to assist the Chinese."
Other sources, such as Part V North China Marines in - History of U.S. Marine Corps Operation in World War II, Volume V- Victory and occupation, by Benis M. Frank & Henry I. Shaw, Jr., 1968, Historical Branch, G-3 Division, Headquarters, U.S. Marine Corps (transcription also available here) is careful not to refer to it as Occupation duty, but does occassionaly use the word "occupation".
So while the 6th's service in Tsingtao was not officially "Occupation duty" (ie it would not qualify for occupation credit, there does seem to be more than enough sources that it could be refered to as "Occupation of Tsingtao".  But does doing so give the wrong impression (ie is not NPOV)?  What would be the best way to proceeded here?
Gecko G (talk) 18:29, 3 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tsingtao "Occupation" 

message: The article say's The 6th Marine Division had suffered 2,662 Marines and Navy corpsmen killed in action and 7,470 Marines and Navy corpsmen wounded in action.
That 1st source say's nearly 1700 KIA or DoW and >7400 wounded for all of the Battle of Okinawa.  2nd source has 2662 KIA or wounded, and a further 1289 evacuated from exhaustion or Battle fatigue but is stated to only be for Sugar Loaf Hill.  Clearly, these numbers do not match up so  I'm moving this bit to the Talk page until further sources can be found.  Gecko G (talk) 22:47, 5 July 2014 (UTC)
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