Talk:History of Sindh

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Siddiqui 03:49, 8 April 2006 (UTC)

message: The history of Sindh from the Arab rule until the British rule covers many dynasties, which are missing in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.11.209.95 (talk) 09:54, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vast history of Sindh missing 

message: By Fayaz Soomro 
It is indeed a great privilege for me to write for Sindhishaan and come into contact with Sindhis who are living in India with the connection of my janambhoomi Sindh. Sindh is the most effected part of the Sub-continent and Pakistan, which has suffered on account of the migration during partition, when over 1 million Hindu Sindhis migrated to India. It is unfortunate that their psychic wounds and ruptures remain unknown to most of the world. These ruptures still continue to devastate the lives of countless Sindhis. For those Sindhis can never be the same as they were living in Sindh before. Some scars heal with time but others continue to disfigure their minds up to now.
  
Sindhi Hindus left the shores of Sindh  and migrated to different parts of India and the world but the bond with Sindh- Sindhi language, and Sindhi culture keeps us connected all over the world. For centuries, Sindhis have maintained their collective existence and over centuries they have developed and maintained a language known as Sindhi. Sindhi is one of the ancient languages of the world and it is spoken in India, Pakistan, USA, Canada, Europe and Asia. It is the language which is spoken by more than 40 million people worldwide. Sindhi language and culture play a significant role in uniting the Sindhis all over the world. 
No doubt, the Sindhi Sabhyata is experiencing hard times in history and concern for the existence of Sindhis as a community and Sindhi language are very high. The status of Sindh and Indus civilization which existed 2000 to 3000 years before Christ, when Sindhis used to grow grains and live in well built houses and Sindh was leading the world is now completely lost. But the conditions were not as bad as up to pre-partition.
 
Before partition, Sindh was linguistically one territory and Sindhi language enjoyed domination in every aspect of life in Sindh. But the post-partition realities are very harsh for Sindh and Sindhis as a whole. When a large chunk of educated Sindhi Hindus migrated to India and the huge influx of immigrants from India and other provinces of Pakistan came to Sindh and changed the whole fabric of Sindhi society. As a result, Urdu language is now predominant in the big cities of Sindh.
 
In the above context, it is true that Sindhi language is passing through a difficult time but when we see the history, we know that it is not the first time that Sindhi language and Sindhi Sabhyata has faced threats. When Arabs invaded Sindh, Sindhi faced Arabic challenges, then Parsian and then English but Sindh and Sindhi language faced all the challenges and survived. Though, we do know that Indian and Pakistani governments are not sincere to promote Sindhi language and culture, still I am hopeful that Sindhi Sabhyata will get its lost status back and Sindhi language will survive. Sindhi language has its own rich culture, with a vast body of classical and modern literature and history. 
As far as the survival of Sindhi language in India is concerned, the situation is much worse than Pakistan. Sindhi Language is crippled in India. Sindhi language, culture and literature are almost going to die. There are hardly any Sindhi medium schools imparting education in Sindhi language and Sindhis are becoming nothing more than just a caste. 
Before partition, a little community of Urdu speaking peasants from India migrated to Mauritius but still their community is well alive and they are able to write and speak in Urdu. Not only that, but they are also organizing International Urdu conferences for the promotion of Urdu language since many years. If they could preserve their language and culture why could not the Sindhis in India? I hope that the rich history of struggle for the survival of Sindhi language not only keeps it alive but also energizes Sindhi language, if we can start a movement of awareness for the importance of Sindhi language as a uniting tool or bond of our community. 
We are lucky that information technology has brought us closer to each other. The cheap sources of communication are providing us so many opportunities to share ideas and thoughts very quickly to promote our language and culture. Due to information and technology, the barriers of geography are becoming irrelevant. It is such a big opportunity which today’s technology is providing us to develop interaction between Sindhis all over the world.
My friends, as the New Year 2007 comes closer, let us pray and light the lamp for the prosperity of Sindh and Sindhis in the coming years and also to light the spark of promising ourselves that we never forget our contribution to our very own Sindh and Sindhi language.
Sindhi language and Sindhi literature is a treasure not only for our coming generations but for the world too. It is the moral responsibility of all Sindhis to protect and promote Sindhi language and Sindhi culture for our future generation. 
 
[Please note: This article has already been published in India, the largely circulated Sindhi English magazine SindhiShann, Volume- 5, Issue- 4, December 2006]  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fayaz S (talk • contribs) 00:35, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like we could do a better job... Aryamanarora (talk) 16:40, 3 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sindh and Sindhi Connection       

message: I'm afraid that it's a confusion in the history. Only the Upper Sind was part of the ghaznevid empire. About the Lower Sind there's not any contemporary source about this. If was, must to be between 1010 to c. 1025 as maximun. --83.52.18.163 (talk) 23:10, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Upper and Lower Sind

message: To whom this may concern,
An IP hopper is making some serious nonconstructive edits on several Wikipedia articles, among which one is this. What this user does is delete any mentioning of Pakistan, deletes the History of Pakistan template and replaces a specific region (ie. Punjab, Sindh) with a vague, obsolete term "Indian subcontinent". The first bone of contention is why this user has an issue with Pakistan claiming its history. I don't see this user going to the Mauryan Empire and removing the History of India template. Clearly a bias is present.
The second issue is how this user is replacing specific regions with Indian subcontinent. This would be like replacing Texas with North America. It makes zero sense to me. I've tried several times to contact the user, but he or she seems to be using some program which prevents me from posting on his or her talk page. The user is also using several IDs at once which I am noting down here: , , , , , 
The other articles he is creating havoc on include: History of Sindh, Ror dynasty, Gandhara, Gandhara grave culture, Riwat, Soanian.
Not only would I like to report his or her deconstruction edits, I'd also like to have his or her actual IP address banned for using several different user IDs at once. Thank you. --PAKHIGHWAY (talk) 02:49, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You are putting the same content in multiple talk page. I have answered it in other talk pages. (2600:1001:B025:D62C:1C23:8806:4DE9:D0F0 (talk) 10:46, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Why are you reverting the translations? This is exactly what I mean about you being a biased. Do you even know how to read Sindhi? History of Sindh is translated into . You keep reverting back to the translation of SINDH only. At least stop reverting the translations. You're simply creating a edit war out of nothing. --PAKHIGHWAY (talk) 14:15, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  You were making more changes then that. But, if that is all you want, go ahead. It will not change history or reality. (2600:1001:B025:D62C:1C23:8806:4DE9:D0F0 (talk) 14:20, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I could careless about your history and reality. Indians are a confused bunch of people with no real history anyway. --PAKHIGHWAY (talk) 14:28, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:   look what he wrote. He does not care about history or reference. He broke every wiki policy. (2600:1001:B025:D62C:1C23:8806:4DE9:D0F0 (talk) 14:32, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I care about history and references. I have yet to see one piece of historical evidence or neutral source from you. Hence forth, I could careless about your mythical history and facts. Don't revert and edit things if you have no history or knowledge of the region. What is your fascination with Sindh anyway? Are you from Sindh? Do you speak Sindhi? Are you of Sindhi heritage? Clearly you don't speak Sindhi since you can't even READ Sindhi, so who are you to question me or anybody else? First educate yourself, then make edits. --PAKHIGHWAY (talk) 14:41, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

text:  Again, another unconstrictive comment that is in serious violation of the editing restrictions placed on India-Pakistan pages. (2600:1001:B025:D62C:1C23:8806:4DE9:D0F0 (talk) 14:44, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit wars by sock puppet 

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message: Ill be doing a cleanup of this article soon, and will be removing original research, creating new categories, checking for spelling and grammar, and in general expanding the articles.BreadBuddy (talk) 23:44, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Cleanup 

message: Please remove the term India from the part where it talks about Maurya’s goal to liberate ‘India’ from Greek. The Maurya and other people of Sindhu never used India (name given by Greek colonists or occupiers) for Sindhu, Sindh or the Vally of Mehran. 
The name India is a colonial name given by the Greek and shouldn’t be used with Sindh. Karachite (talk) 22:12, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Using India for Indus or Sindhu 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Ongar, Sindh. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 August 19#Ongar, Sindh until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  –LaundryPizza03 (dc̄) 21:01, 19 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Ongar, Sindh" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: Hello Wikipedia users and the moderators of this page, I hope you are having a good day.I would like to propose that this article to be merged into the greater Sindhis articles because i believe that a large part of this information is present in the history section of Sindh already and it would increase peoples knowledge of Sindhi people if some headings or paragraphs of article were moved to the greater Sindhis article.Thank you for reviewing.Bye.~Signed, NameIsShaheer (talk) 19:02, 17 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: (Disabled misplaced merge template) The history of Sindh clearly merits its own article, so the articles should remain separate. That said, copying with attribution between Wikipedia articles is allowed; please follow the steps at Wikipedia:Copying within Wikipedia. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 00:19, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Special:Diff/1105340718 for reference. Rotideypoc41352 (talk · contribs) 22:44, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: @Jamal047, your recent additions have made rather a mess of the reference section, which now has a number of missing named references and various errors with short footnote references (albeit some of the sfn errors were there before).  Could  you check and copy across any of the references that didn't come along with the content you added earlier?  Thanks! Wham2001 (talk) 20:06, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah I see, sorry for that. I will look into fixing this mess right now. Thanks for the reminder. Jamal047 (talk) 20:46, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks!  Between you and AnomieBot the missing named inline refs are now fixed.  There are still some sfn errors, but you probably can't see those because, unfortunately, their display is disabled by default.  If you routinely edit articles that use harv/sfn references I would recommend installing this script, which highlights missing and duplicated references.  I've fixed a bunch of them and will look into the others later (I need to go to work shortly).  Best, Wham2001 (talk) 07:23, 23 August 2022 (UTC)

text: The sfns are now all fixed as well (I removed one sfn with missing source information since it seemed to be referring to a self-published book).  Best, Wham2001 (talk) 13:10, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: History of sindh 2402:AD80:85:1A88:1:0:5435:A366 (talk) 03:07, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of Sindh