Talk:Bay Area thrash metal

message: If you look at the heavy metal genre template, there is a section below titled "Regional Genres", all 3 of which are a large progenity and early carnation of Heavy Metal music. Bay Area thrash metal is indeed one of them, and every websource will confirm that. If you check the history of the person who made the suggestion, you will notice this user has added pointless AFD/Merge tags to other heavy metal articles. (Not surprisingly, votes from everyone are overwhelmingly not in favor of their proposal.) In addition, the user is including unsourced and unverified claims in various Wikipedia articles (1 2), a most blatant defiance of the site policy Wikipedia:Cite sources . --Danteferno 23:01 7 December (UTC)
I reference people to the fact Dante has 'Meglomanic Point of View' and suffers from 'Possesion of Articles' syndrome. The reason for merging, if Dante would of cared to ask (which he never does), is that this article is three paragraphs long, that would be much better menitoned in the Thrash Metal article, and would add greatly to BOTH articles. Which is the reason for most merges. Leyasu 00:06, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed the tag, one person and zero discussion doesn't qualify a dispute maxcap 02:40, 21 January 2006 (UTC)

text: * Comment I would agree with you, but it seems that others don't see it that way with teutonic thrash which was just as popular and know world wide as the Bay Area Thrash scene. I am just looking for some consistency between the two very popular thrash metal scenes. --Pinkkeith 17:23, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

text: You are right, teutonic does not just include the present day nation of Germany. That's why I thought it would be misleading to call it German thrash metal. Bands that come from Switzerland, Denmark and the Netherlands are considered to be part of the teutonic thrash movement. I think you have some bias in thinking that "Bay Area thrash is synonymous with thrash." There are many music critics and historians who think that there are two areas that are important in the thrash metal: Bay Area and Teutonic. --Pinkkeith 15:39, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not biased towards bay area thrash. But I suspect that if you ask a couple of random metalheads to name a few important thrash bands they come up with bands like exodus, testament, metallica, slayer. Also note that Teuton is not a region. A better term would probably be west-european thrash or something along these lines. Spearhead 16:10, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you are not biased, which I believe you are, you are ignorant. Just because you ask a few people you know to name some thrash metal bands and they mention the ones you like done'st mean that they are important or unimportant. You have to look at what the general population and the musical critics and musical historians believe are important bands and trends rather then just a group of "random metalheads." Since thrash metal was most popular during the mid to late 80s, there isn't much out there on the world wide web about it. These are the few I could find: Hard History Returning To The Roots: Thrash Metal. I don't know if you remember or followed the thrash metal scene then, but during the mid to late 80s teutonic thrash scene was mentioned and talked about. To call this anything other then teutonic trash would be ignorant of the history, because that's what the critics called it, and the fans and bands adopted. --Pinkkeith 13:24, 26 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I've been a thrash fan since like the 1990 or so from Europe (NL) and I never heard that term either. Spearhead 09:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I started to be come interested in thrash metal in 1984 when I discovered Anthrax. I discovered Kreator in about 1985. Thrash metal use to be big back then and there were many magazines about thrash metal. I can remember picking up some at the local grocery store, now they are hard to find. I have to admit that I did start to become less of a fan of metal around 1993 or so. I still loved the music, I just wasn't just listening to thrash metal. I also agree with Skeletor that teutonic thrash would be more of a scene then a genre. I know I do use the words interchangably, which is incorrect of me. Also, I have no idea about the origins of the term "teutonic thrash." I don't know who coined it or even where I first read it. --Pinkkeith 14:11, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: This must be one of the worst-written article on WP. It only has a summary and a conclusion. And is more about other genres (such death metal, groove metal) than thrash. The first section seems to be totally biased towards metallica.  Spearhead 16:14, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Bullocks, this is perhaps the most telling article on a seminal music scene that Wikipedia has to offer. As others have stated, the Bay Area Thrash scene (which was partly pioneered by Metallica) has been strongly reputable in shaping the overall thrash metal genre and the article also explains how it lead to the creation of other subgenres (groove, death metal, etc). There is no "biasness" towards Metallica in any direction. Unless there is a more explanatory grievance, I'm removing the tags. They're only stagnating the article, not improving it.--Danteferno 00:58, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV/cleanup 

message: Due to no significant discussion I removed the tags. There has been no talk on this for nearly two months, and also no follow-up to my message dated 07/26/06, 00:58. If there's anything the article needs, its probably some cited references, which can be provided, but there's absolutely no problem with neutrality. --Danteferno 14:04, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
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message: Since when were Megadeth and Slayer Bay Area bands? They're from L.A., and as far as I know, have never lived in the Bay Area.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.207.118.149 (talk) 02:46, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The thrash metal scene was born in the underground scene, but it doesn't really matter if it's underground or mainstream so much, it's also hard to identify in any music genre or scene if it's commercial or not because nothing is 100% certain, if I'm to give my opinion the Bay Area Thrash metal scene was born and developed in the underground scene. Raphael the great (talk) 01:37, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
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message: I believe this link might be useful for this page  Weltanschaunng 09:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
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message: The Bay Area thrash scene can be said to be underground? 46.97.176.247 (talk) 23:50, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Underground 

message: I have a personal question can the Bay Area scene be considered underground or mainstream ? Luis Trexxxx (talk) 00:49, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The thrash metal scene was born in the underground scene, but it doesn't really matter if it's underground or mainstream so much, it's also hard to identify in any music genre or scene if it's commercial or not because nothing is 100% certain, if I'm to give my opinion the Bay Area Thrash metal scene was born and developed in the underground scene. Raphael the great (talk) 01:37, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Underground or Mainstream