Talk:Soccsksargen

message: I think there should be some IPA note stating how is SOCCSKSARGEN usually pronounced... Ciacchi 20:59, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I second that, if anyone is watching this page. When I first saw a link to this, I thought it was vandalism. —Cuiviénen 23:44, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't read/write IPA, if anyone wants to know, it's "sok-SAR-gen". --Howard the Duck 06:10, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: A GEOGRAPHICAL NAME THAT'S ALL CAPS IS FANTASTICALLY ANOMALOUS. WILL SOMEONE PLEASE MAKE THIS BE "Soccsksargen", PLEASE? --Milkbreath (talk) 02:14, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's because the name is an acronym. --seav (talk) 02:20, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it's not, it's a portmanteau, often rendered even more ridiculously as "SoCCSKSarGen". Nobody spells "Tribeca" "TriBeCa"...hold on. O, my God. What the hell is going on in here? --Milkbreath (talk) 02:32, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's an acronym, not a portmanteau (which combines words and their meanings together; e.g., spork for spoon and fork). Besides, it's written in all caps as stated in the law that created the region, Executive Order No. 36. I'll add this reference to the article, and revert the mixed case. --seav (talk) 05:58, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, not to be argumentative, but no "Executive Order" can change good English usage. All caps is offensive to the eye, ruins the page its on, and flies in the face of the conventions of the language. It needs to be transliterated by those of us with some idea about English. (You're right about "portmanteau, but an acronym consists only of the capital letters that begin each word, hence the "acro-".) --Milkbreath (talk) 12:16, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Er, no. First, acronyms do not necessarily have to contain only initial letters. Take sonar for example. The "so" there stands for "sound". Second, if you think all caps is offensive to the eye, then try lobbying to have NASA changed to Nasa. Good luck. Third, "SOCCSKSARGEN" is perfectly acceptable in Philippine English, or are you suggesting that an article on a Philippine topic needs to use American or British English? Please see WP:ENGVAR to be enlightened. Thanks. --seav (talk) 18:46, 23 December 2008 (UTC)

text: And I take offense in your suggestion regarding "those of us with some idea about English". The Philippines is an English-speaking nation and the United States and United Kingdom don't have a monopoly on "correct English". --seav (talk) 18:52, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, aren't you the touchy one? I know that y'all speak English, it's the politicians that don't in whatever country you name. I was hoping you'd see yourself included in the "us" in "those of us who..." and get on board. NASA is not a placename, and it's not "SONAR", is it? Your attitude makes it clear that I was right in my suspicion that the matter is another of those political-nationalistic bones of contention that crop up here in Wikipedia, so I give up trying to convince you of the obvious, that "SOCCSKSARGEN" is an abomination. Good luck with your crusade. --Milkbreath (talk) 19:33, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm the touchy one? You're the one that started this thread with an exclamation written in all caps (ironically) as if the name is a personal affront to your sensibilities. And it's utterly presumptuous to say that politicians in the Philippines don't know English. For your information, there is no "English Language Institute" that dictates that place names should not be in all caps. Who are you to say that an all-caps place name is "anomalous", "offensive", "ridiculous", and an "obvious" "abomination"? (FWIW, "sonar" used to be an acronym but since it became a regular word, it dropped the all-caps spelling. Besides, the "sonar" example is just to correct your wrong notion that acronyms have to be all initial letters and has nothing at all to do with whether acronyms should be capitalized, title-cased, or lower-cased.) --seav (talk) 04:04, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

text: Philippine English to many may seem abominational to native Anglophones, but we can't do anything about it.  I'm Filipino and a native Anglophone, yet Philippine English seems quite normal to me.  However, I do have to agree that we are a very..."acronimous" nation.  Personally, I wish SOCCSKSARGEN was renamed back to Central Mindanao, legally or otherwise. --Sky Harbor (talk) 07:01, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We could change this to the CaMel caps... –Howard the Duck 10:18, 24 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  YOU HAVE GOT TO BE KIDDING 

message: Wtmitchell  (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 03:37, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Languages in regional articles 

message: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soccsksargen#/media/File:Ph_locator_region_12.png is also in need of a new edit. Marwan_Khan (talk) 02:10, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: On it. --hueman1 (talk) 23:52, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: . --hueman1 (talk) 00:26, 14 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit the Political Map 

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