Talk:Commodity market

message: I've tried to create the beginnings of some structure, as a starting point for factoring the article. It's trying to do much (if it's trying to be a book, there are other Wiki projects for that!), and some of it should be split into daughter articles. Looks like it should end up with
* Commodification
* History of commodity markets
* Emissions trading
* LETS
whilst this article focusses on how commodity markets work, with short sections to summarise relevant daughter articles (in the Main article: ... or See also.. way). Rd232 00:19, 13 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Structure 

message: I came to this page to find out what commodity markets are.  Even after following many of the links, I still have absolutely no idea whatsoever.  Could someone who knows about the subject please insert some meaningful, jargon-free explanations for an ordinary person? Xezlec (talk) 03:36, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huh? 

message: "Some Argue" appears TWICE in this article. Stop trying to dodge NPOV! --169.244.139.8 (talk) 16:19, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weasel Words 

message: This section is totally loaded with Anglo-American POV. Trying to find reasons for a commodity boom is not a NPOV encyclopedia approach.
"The 2008 global boom in commodity prices - for everything from coal to corn – was fueled by heated demand from the likes of China and India, plus unbridled speculation in forward markets."
If the editor really wants to put that viewpoint please cite it to someone like George W Bush who said the same thing, rather than putting it as a widely acceptable truth. Plus what does the phrase "everything from coal to corn" really mean?
I don't wanna argue economics here, because I clearly disagree with the above stuff in that section, but then it would be my viewpoint, and the wikipedia must be Neutral POV. Recent trends occurred where there was a bubble in commodity prices(a verifiable logical fact), but they were caused by surge in Asian demand is unverifiable illogical fact, because it could have equally occurred because of a surge in money supply of US Dollar(the choice of currency in the International market).
Similarly "unbridled speculation caused bubble" is another loaded phrase, suffering from the logical fallacy of confusing causation and effect(like blaming Rap Music for crime and violence). Again that point can be explained with the dollar bubble. --68.197.93.248 (talk) 22:23, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Trends 

message: The commodity markets - Research and Development for the systems and the organization
Wednesday, 06th April 2011
The preamble to the commodity markets -
The commodity markets and the stock markets are both terms applied in the diverse nations trading in the stock markets / public listed companies in shares or brokers in the transactions through auctions and agreed terms for trade and in the commodity markets essentially defined for the seasonal output in the agricultural sector. The seasonal output are both in the seasonal cropping systems in the calendar year in the perennial cropping systems in the calendar year.
The current questions and issues in the commodity markets -
The supply chain solutions adopted in the australian systems and the links to the production systems for the calendar year and the links for the commodity markets in the calendar year in the geographical locis.
The supply chain solutions adopted in the australian systems and the links to the 'Enterprise Resource Planning' as per the transactions in the trade in the financial year in each of the production systems linked through the supply chain solutions in the specific geographical locis
The capital requirements for the seasonal cropping systems and the diverse terms for the transactions in the capital markets for the range of purchases including the purchase of assets as per agreed schedules for the repayments. 
The capital requirements through the capital markets for the operations per season for each of the type of cropping system and the schedules for the repayments as per the earning per season.
The capital requirements through the capital markets for the maintenance of the on farm ventures in the seasonal cropping practices and the schedules for the repayments.
The considerations for the types of borrowing/s and the corresponding repayment/s as expenses as per the varied seasonal cropping systems in the accounting systems to be adopted for the financial year.
To be continued ----->  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kala Maheswaran (talk • contribs) 01:51, 6 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The commodity markets and the geographical locis - The questions and issues pertaining to the commodity markets and or the stock markets are essentially held for the variations in the seasonal cropping in the calendar year in the geographical locis 

message: The entire history section of this article has not a single date beyond a vague reference to "the 19th century", as well as a lack of references. Clearly it has been written off the top of the heads of people who only had a vague idea of the facts, and probably had forgotten where they got those vague ideas.
Has anyone out there got a decent source for putting in some dates, places, facts and referencing these properly? 86.24.87.222 (talk) 00:38, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  History without dates?? 

message: The first I heard of commodity trading was in reference to rising food prices, that speculation on the commodities market was creating a bubble that will make food unaffordable for many, until the bubble bursts and puts farmers out of business, causing a shortage of supply of food and making more people going hungry. Is there any truth to this, and if so, shouldn't there be a dedicated criticism section? 130.159.234.62 (talk) 09:50, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism? 

message: Copyedited this. Feedback encouraged. Comments:
* This is still a mess. It is very poorly organized (although better now) and full of repetition.
* There is no need for once-recent market updates. They're now out-of-date and even if updated, would soon be again. Add a link to a pricing database if you like.
:Cheers. Lfstevens (talk) 22:55, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyedit 

message: An Exchange Traded Commodity or ETC has nothing to do with a Commodity ETF beyond the fact that they both belong to the Exchange Traded Product family of securities. The ETC is put on the market by an SPV which is not a fund, this frees it from the requirements funds have, so it can both effect direct investments and its' investments concentrated. Can you please explain why the article suggest they are the same?
93.36.53.115 (talk) 18:33, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exchange Traded Commodities are not Commodities Exchange Traded Funds 

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message: OK, you CAN trade CFDs on commodities, but this segment seems like it was written by a cfds broker. a little more depth or kill it?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.191.212.116 (talk) 10:07, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  CFDs??? 

message: The article should be reviewed completely and reorganized. The most striking aspect in my opinion is that it fails to separate physical trading and paper trading. This greatly affects the readability and intelligibility... I would thus advocate the present article to be split into one focusing on commodity future markets (or commodity derivatives in general) and one focusing on physical commodity trading. I note that those two "worlds" are deeply connected yet they differ on many fundamental issues (to name one, you don't need to store/transport/secure thousands of metric tons of physical corn if you trade futures, at least if you offset before expiry). I may take the time in the future to look more in depth into this article. Meanwhile, if editors familiar to the subject could kindly raise the major issues or debate on my proposition, that would be nice! FOBSCIF (talk) 18:12, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: In general, this article is very technical, but completely lacks any discussion of the ethical and environmental aspects of commodity trading. --TadejM my talk 13:02, 7 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  General Review 

message: As has been noted before, the article is both technical and incomplete. It is in need of attention by an expert. 
Other sections suffer from similar issues, but "standardization" is particularly bad. It lacks a definition and simply dives into a detailed example of what constitutes "standard grade" and "deliverable grade" soybeans. If this grading reflects the "standardization", should the heading be called "grading" or "trading grades"? If not, why?
In its last paragraph, it also adds that there's "technological standardization", which seems to rely on "messages to be sent, received and processed in the same format as stocks or equities"; but it is unclear why standardizing messages would be equivalent or relevant to standardization of traded goods as in the example.
MiG-25 (talk) 01:44, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standardization and other unclear sections