Talk:History of the kilt

message: Military use: Robert Chew acquired the nickname "The Scotsman" for consistently wearing a kilt in the months he oversaw Norway's return to civil rule after WW2. Bergen library  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A01:799:E9F:FB01:40CE:CA07:FFD9:EB55 (talk) 09:11, 14 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Robert Chew ("The Scotsman")

message: I made some minor edits. I removed a reference in the Great Kilt section since it claimed the term derived from the Norse word 'kjalta' which contradicts what was actually *cited* at the top of the article that it derives from the world 'kilting.' Furthermore, just because it derives from that word does not give "strong indication" that the Norse people observed Picts wearing kilts, by any means.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.39.212.101 (talk) 05:45, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: modifications

message: The above was taken from the kilt article. It may properly belong under History of the kilt. However, it needs to be sourced and it seems more about general Scottish/Celtic cultural growth and not so specifically about the kilt. Also, about the section header: if there has been a revival, doesn't that mean there was a previous 'vival'? When was the vival? 
I do suspect there has been some growth of interest in the kilt in recent years, but shouldn't this be supportable with industry statistics on sales, eh? JFPerry 13:49, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: I just LO-O-OVE this ARTICLE! Bye, y'all! Wumbo 3:29, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hi!

message: Excuse me, but could some material from the Thomas Rawlinson article be incorporated into this article, please! It would really help me out. Thanks! Skrooball 19:02, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The accuracy of that article has been disputed (by two different people). Both of the references cited in the external links section of the Rawlinson article flat out contradict the thesis of the entire Rawlinson article. See the talk page of that article. JFPerry 20:15, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

text: See also Talk:Kilt#Thomas Rawlinson for further discussion and source-digging.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  22:45, 22 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Thomas Rawlinson

message: The article says "Scottish troops last wore kilts in combat during WWI. In particular, the ferocious tactics of the Royal Highland Regiment led to their acquiring the nickname "Ladies from Hell" from the German troops that faced them in the trenches." but there are photographic sources such as photo (which shows Scottish POWs in 1940) wearing kilts at least into early WWII.
There are also photo's of Scottinh officers wearing kilts during Market-Garden, in 1944. These may hve been individual choices rather than unit orders, but they were kilyts worn in combat. Jahb (talk) 20:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
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message: No where does this article mention that the English invented the kilt; see Hugh Trevor Roper et al. This is a serious failing. 195.217.128.36 (talk) 07:55, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The wikipedia Kilt article now says that Rawlinson invented a version of the philibeg with sewn-in pleats, which is what the section from The Invention of Tradition used as a source there says (p.22-23), and that there is evidence that the philibeg with unsewn pleats was worn from the 1690s, cited to the source quoted in this article. This article's statement that the first philibeg with sewn-in pleats is from 1792 needs correcting - that would be the oldest existing philibeg with sewn-in pleats.Robocon1 (talk) 15:32, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  English invented the kilt 

message: Vikings did not wear kilts, they wore long tunics or shirts over trews: http://sciencenordic.com/what-vikings-really-looked http://www.danishnet.com/info.php/vikings/clothing-137.html This was a style of dress for men common across medieval Europe. A kilt is a pleated garment which is not worn over trousers. The fact that a Scottish word may be derived from an Old Norse word proves nothing. Many words of Norse derivation occur in Scottish Gaelic, northern English dialects and modern English, because of Viking settlement. For instance, the modern Lowland Scots dialect word for a cushion is the same as the word in modern Swedish: kudde. That doesn't mean that Swedish Vikings invented the cushion and took it to Scotland. Robocon1 (talk) 21:39, 17 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norse 'kilts' 

message: This page was identified as including a disambiguation error based on the term "AIX".
In order to resolve this problem I have removed the wikilink from the term as I am unable to determine, from the context, which exact place it is referring to.  If you wish to restore the link please ensure that the term and the link are fully resolved so that no further disambiguation occurs. Perry Middlemiss (talk) 07:16, 3 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Aix" Disambiguation 

message: Folklore sometimes has it that the plated-leather skirts of some types of Roman armour (e.g. the  and ), worn by Romano-British soldiers at Hadrian's Wall and Antonine Wall, inspired Pictish immitation in the form of cloth kilts, while in reality there is no sure evidence of kilt-wearing in Scotland until the late 16th century.  I know I read about this in a published source some time in the 1980s, though at this remove I have no idea what that book was. I imagine it has been covered in more than one source by now, and it is probably worth mentioning and effectively dismissing in our article.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  23:09, 6 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Folklore of Roman inspiration 

message: Please see Talk:Kilt#Thomas Rawlinson for a discussion that should be centralized at one place, as it affects three articles.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  05:08, 9 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thomas Rawlinson disputation 

message: Our current text says: "A letter written by Ivan Baillie in 1768 and published in the Edinburgh Magazine in March 1785 states that the garment people would recognize as a kilt today was invented in the 1720s by Thomas Rawlinson, a Quaker from Lancashire."  But other sources including Thomas Innes of Learney and J. G. Mackay put that publication in The Scots Magazine.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  08:14, 6 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which magazine was it?