Talk:Afsluitdijk

message: There is a small piece about school boys who cycled across the dike. Seems not relevant. People cycle across the dike on a daily basis, including schoolkids. 145.58.16.64 15:09, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Boys?

message: Pronunciation questions seem to spring up from time to time in Dutch-related articles. It may seem like overkill to add IPA everywhere though... Maybe a quick-reference chart for Dutch names could be created? Maybe it already exists? In that case only irregularly spelt names would need IPA.
Another idea: replace Netherlands category by a template which can include both the category and a link to such a reference chart. Search and replace in 25 pages is doable. (It's the sub-categories I'm worried about. But they won't all need the reference chart - I hope.) Shinobu 01:11, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: I've read somewhere that there was a great battle of Afsluitdijk in 1940 between Dutch and German forces and that this was the only battle during all the Blitzkrieg operations between 1939 to 1942 where the German forces couldn't defeat the other forces. Anyone who knows something about this?
:You are right, there was a battle. I've found a (formerly mispelled) stub-article about Kornwerderzand, the place of the battle. Stefan Jansen 10:52, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Battle of Afsluitdijk (1940) 

message: As mentioned in the Dutch version of this article:
Although this structure is name the "Afsluitdijk" ("Closure Dike"), it is actually a dam, because it doesn't protect a body of land from a body of water, but rather separates two bodies of water. Maybe it's worth noting this fact?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.211.150.41 (talk) 07:45, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, as a Dutch person I can give you two answers. Firstly, when you think of dike you think of the object itself primarily, whether there is water on both, one or none of the sides only secondarily. There are in fact a lot of dikes in the Netherlands that don't have water on either side because new areas were turned into polders. Secondly, according to my dictionary dike used to also mean dam in Dutch. If this was still strictly true in 1927 I don't know. Shinobu (talk) 18:21, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Be that as it may, the common English denomination for the structure is 'Enclosure dam' (http://www.fotothing.com/photos/091/09193b4396fe47618893e8a9bd0b89f2_254.jpg), and I've changed the article accordingly. Zwart (talk) 23:06, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Please note that words do not always translate directly. The Dutch word 'dijk' is not the same as the English 'dyke' although we talk about 'dykes' in Netherlands. (In normal English usage 'dyke' is a drainage ditch.) Similarly Dutch 'dam' is not the same as English 'dam'. An English dam is used to contain water and so is the same as a dijk. I don't know of a specific English word for a barrier with water on both sides. I suspect that depending on context we would use, 'dam', 'bank', 'levee' or even 'wall'.  dyke/dijk and dam/dam are false friends. OrewaTel (talk) 13:58, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dike / dam naming issue 

message: The second paragraph of the "History" section currently reads "From these points, the dike slowly grew by ships depositing till into the open sea in two parallel lines. Sand was then poured in between the two dikes and as it emerged above the surface was then covered by another layer of till." (emphasis mine)
Can anyone verify this? I can find no source mentioning the sand core except for a museum booklet, and all diagrams of the Afsluitdijk that I can find don't show it. See for example here and here. Amphicoelias (talk) 12:55, 8 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I've emailed the friendly people at deafsluitdijk.nl. They've confirmed that this is false. The core of the afsluitdijk is a single till dam. The confusion possibly arises from the fact that a small second damn was temporarily constructed to aid in depositing sand on top of the core. (This is called a "perskade".) I can't cite an email, so I won't add this information to the article. However, i will remove the false information. Amphicoelias (talk) 09:59, 22 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  sand core? 

message: I am translating this section from :nl:Afsluitdijk because:
# I found the trivia interesting.
# This is easy and I can do it. The more technical parts or the Dutch article are harder and it would stretch my competence in Dutch to verify that I hadn't made a silly error.
Please bear with me as I issue this one paragraph at a time. The Dutch article is very short of references. I'll put in the one reference in one paragraph and try to find independent references for the rest once I have finished this project. OrewaTel (talk) 13:03, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: An editor has noted that there are no citations in this section and summarily deleted it. I reverted the edit but it has highlighted the urgent need for references. If you wish to retain this information please add any references that you can find. OrewaTel (talk) 08:22, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Icoon Afsluitdijk 

message: The following section has been deleted. It was originally translated from the Dutch Wikipedia so the Dutch think that it is relevant and noteworthy. Rather than start an edit war, it is being presented here for a consensus. Wikipedia guidelines deprecate 'Trivia' sections although they also deprecate deleting these sections without discussion. These paragraphs are relevant but perhaps they should be moved to other sections so that the 'Trivia' section can be retired. OrewaTel (talk) 02:25, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: We can only make a consensus to include or exclude sourced information, what you are asking for is not possible. Horse Eye's Back (talk) 22:57, 26 July 2021 (UTC)

text: Can you explain this edit and summary to me? You seem to have restored the unsourced text but the summary says "Icoon Afsluitdijk is certainly not an advertisement but this section does not have any references. These are required.” If you know that sources are required before restoring unsourced content why would you restore it without sourcing it? Horse Eye's Back (talk) 23:00, 26 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Because I did not have an authoritative English language source at the time. This has been rectified. This request should have been added to the section Talk:Afsluitdijk#Icoon Afsluitdijk OrewaTel (talk) 04:12, 27 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleted Section