Talk:Popular Resistance Committees

message: Two things clearly wrong with this article: the assertion that they are terriosts, and the general bias inherent in the detail towards that assertion.
This needs re-wording with a little more unbiased background.
--Pete Richardson 14:58, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  Those terrorists certinally have an unbiased name. Aren't committees normally concerned with raising funds for schools or something like that. --mitrebox 04:00, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Regarding the tanks, interesting theory, has anyone else ever suggested it, or is it original research?  Regarding Corrie, read the article for details of why it happened, but a terrorist group blowing up a diplomatic convoy accompanied by military support is nothing like an American activist getting run over after playing cat and mouse for an extended period of time with a bulldozer. NPOV doesn't mean including information not relevant to the page in order to make the "other side" look bad too.  Jayjg 19:39, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)

text: Neither, and I don't appreciate being strawmanned.  I consider them terrorists because they deliberately target civilians for political purposes. Jayjg 14:12, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

text: It is politicking because it's not relevant.  The linked article on Israeli settlements already discusses the legality of them.  Moreover, it's silly; are we now going to have a rule that any time any settlement is mentioned on Wikipedia, it must be followed by a list of opinions saying it is illegal, and list saying it is not, to preserve NPOV?  No, that's what links are for.  As for the U.S. government, it does not officially consider them "illegal"; show me the document outlining that.  And your misunderstanding of the Geneva Convention is also not relevant; the  Talk: pages are not for arguing whether or not the settlements are legal. Jayjg 21:16, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: The provisions only apply to "High Contracting Parties".  Who are the "High Contracting Parties" in this case? Jayjg 23:39, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: Please read this: . Jayjg 03:31, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: That won't convince me, just as I don't think articles on international law supporting the Palestinian cause would convince you. Especially since this view is at odds with the views of almost the entire world. And who decides whether another country is occupying land in "self defence". Most countries claim to invade other countries in self defence. Kingal86 13:18, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The issue is not particularly relevant to whether or not the 4th Geneva conventions apply in this case.  The territories are a non-state; thus there is no High Contracting Party.  We're talking about International Law here, not political posturing in the General Assembly or by pro-Palestinian groups.  Article 6 of the 4th Geneva Convention states that it applies "from the outset of any conflict or occupation mentioned in Article 2." Article 2 states that it applies: (1) "to all cases of declared war or of any other armed conflict which  may arise between two or more of the High Contracting Parties," or (2) "to all cases of partial or total occupation of the territory of a High Contracting Party". Condition (1) does not apply because Israel is not at war or in armed conflict with any High Contracting Party with respect to the West Bank and Gaza. Condition (2) does not apply because the West Bank and Gaza have never been a legally recognized part of the territory of a High Contracting Party. Moreoever, the phrases on population transfer are intended to deal with involuntary transfer of populations into a territory, not voluntary movement of Israelis into the terrorities.  Here's another legal opinion: ; note, legal opinion, not appeal to emotion. Jayjg 16:33, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: And if Israel considered the West Bank and Gaza Strip to be under legitimate Israeli control, why wasn't the Palestinian population given the vote and citizenship instead of having to live under military dictaorship since 1967? Moreover the Universal Declaration of Human Rights states that "everyone has the right to leave any country, including his own, and to return to his country." Therefore Palestinian refugees have a right of return to Israel, and Jews expelled by Arab countries also have a right of return. Kingal86 13:18, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: These are separate issues, that are not relevant to the point at hand, so I'll only respond briefly.  Regarding the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, the UNGA is not an International Law-making body.  Moreover, only a tiny fraction of those currently designated as Palestinian Refugees have actually "left their country", since the vast majority either still live there (in the territories), or were never born there (anyone under 56 years of age, which would include over 90% of Palestinians). Even if the Declaration were law, and it applied in this case (neither of which are true), I estimate under 100,000 Palestinians would qualify under this provision. Jayjg 16:33, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)

text: Israel has a "Law of Return", not a "Right of Return".  It is a local law, which applies to most Jews and some non-Jews as well.  It is not International Law.  Other countries like Germany have similar laws.  As for the rest, do you wish to discuss your view of Israeli history, your views on morality, or International Law and the applicability of the 4th Geneva convention? I thought we were discussing the latter. Jayjg 08:13, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  2004 comments 

message: The following paragraph was removed:
 The US response to the attack on diplomatic convoy by Palestinian guerrillas contrasts sharply with the killing of unarmed US civilian Rachel Corrie by an Israeli soldier in a US-made buldozer in the Gaza Strip. The buldozer had been attempting to demolish a Palestinian house, when Corrie tried to obstruct the buldozer. The US government appears to have made no response to this, even though eye-witnesses described the running over of the ISM activist as deliberate, and therefore a murder. 
The reasons are:
# It is cleary POV and using an inflammatory rethorics.
# It is full of misinformation and conveying false information in order to incite hate.
# It is pretty much irrelevant to this article.
MathKnight 11:09, 29 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rachel Corrie paragraph 

message: Tom, why do you keep deleting the paragraph about the Tali Hatuel killings, which is well referenced by the BBC article link?  Also, why do you continue to delete the other information, which also has two links for it? Jayjg (talk) 14:36, 20 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: I feel the article is right on the money. The term guerrilla under the Geneva Convention requires 1-a uniform or form of identification 2-bear weapons openly 3-Having a chain of command. The PRC does not meet all three criteria and the fact of targeting civilian (noncombatants) is illegal no matter who's land they are on. They are just plain terrorist.
GTDewey
--24.10.128.184 05:17, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Right on the money

message: For various reasons:
# Alleged Hezbollah link is supported by non-neutral sources: they might be WP:RS in other contexts but in this context they are not.
# There is little sourcing for certain allegations, and allegations are taken as truth, e.g: "As the man responsible for a number of attacks, including the bombing of a children's school bus near Kfar Darom in November 2000 and for the 2003 infiltration into an IDF outpost in Rafah". That is pure POV.
# "The PRC specializes in planting roadside bombs and vehicle explosive charges - directed against military and civilian convoys in the Gaza Strip."  This isn't a military intelligence brief, but an encyclopedia. Regardless of thir militant component, the subject matter is of a militant organization involved in a conflict: it is of encyclopedic interest to learn their politics, actions etc etc etc. It is not encyclopedic to focus solely on the military aspects in non-neutral language.
This is a conflict in which a little coolness on all sides is needed, and trying to make a point is not a good way of editing.--Cerejota 01:55, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Labeled NPOV 

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message: WP:TERRORIST, people. That said, I have no problem with the current wording, and with the link I put to the excellent resources (if sucky execution) of List of designated terrorist organizations. That said, a claim is made that is not sourced in either the list or the article. Please source in both or the claim must be taken out. Thanks!--Cerejota (talk) 11:37, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  terrorist etc 

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message: The subject(s) of this article are the Popular Resistance Committees (PRC). Yet when the acronym "PRC" is used in the article the sentences are written in the singular rather than the plural. Are we dealing with one "Committee" or many "Committees"? If it is the latter, then the acronym "PRC" are plural, not singular. I know this looks weird, but its no different from data or sheep, which are also plural. - Cameron Dewe (talk) 09:20, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singular or plural