Talk:Fyodor Dostoevsky/Archive 1

message: Is there any evidence of this? Gogol's writing reflects a more ontological symbolism through a fusion of the fantastic with reality. I don't feel like ANY of Dostoevsky's writing (especially late period) has this kind of symbolism; he uses exclusively epistemological metaphors in his discussions of class and religion. Not to mention their differing opinions on the contemporaneous Russian social system. If Gogol is mentioned as an influence, there needs to be some reason behind it that someone can talk about. I feel the opposite way about Soren Kierkegaard's inclusion, given his modern acceptance as the founder of Christian Existentialism, and Dostoevsky clearly discusses Christian Existentialist issues at length (i.e. The Idiot). 
Gogol was HUGE for Dostoevsky.  Read Poor Folk if you want proof of this, or better yet Frank's biography.  Gogol must be mentioned.  Also, I changed the crap about Dostoevsky having an abusive father because it's just not true; oh yes, he had them fan him while napping, the horror!  Once again, read the definitive biography by Frank.
Tcallahan
:His father was abusive towards their serfs though wasn't he? --TM 16:30, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: ?Gogol as influence?

message: I remeber reading that his mother died of Consumption, and this was the basis for so many of his female characters to have this disease. Anybody know more about this?
Well, according to the last version of this his mother died of AIDS.  I just took that out, but I don't know how she actually died.
:She died of tuberculosis. Consumption is an archaic term for the disease. --TheMidnighters 18:34, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dosteovsky's Mother 

message: The section entitled "Influence" is ambiguous and strange.  It states many things, but never goes on to elucidate them, and it seems to be merely the viewpoint of the writer, rather than general critical consensus.  Why, for example, and in what way, is Dostoevksy "a writer of myth" like Melville?  How has he influenced expressionism?  How has he influenced Kafka, Hesse or Proust?  The wording is somewhat bombastic but unclear.  What can - for instance - "the corrosion of human life in the process of the time flux" mean?  And then there's the problematic "only Dostoyevski has engendered fully dramatic novels of ideas where conflicting views and characters are left to develop even unto unbearable crescendo".  All in all, either the writer should clarify what he or she has written, or this section must be rephrased. Mandel 06:50, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
:Seconded. I really think the "writer of myth" part ought to be cleared up, and the comparision to Melville elaborated upon.
::Half a year on, the section is as problematic as ever.  Would encourage anyone to give this section a go. Mandel 00:04, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Influence

message: No account of Dostoyevski's life would be complete without mention of his compulsive gambling. One anecdote tells of D savaging Turgenev in a novel, shortly after Turgenev helped to keep the money starved D afloat. In another anecdote, D was supposed to have completed Crime and Punishment in a mad hurry in order to cash in on an advance promised D by his publisher. (Crime and Punishment, despite its obvious merit, does have something of a dime store detective novel in places, don't you think?)
I'm tempted to include some of this in the article, but I'd like to solicit reactions on how much of this is verifiable and worthwhile..
--Philopedia 6 July 2005 22:42 (UTC)
:It's verified. I read the story of him getting the advance on C and P after he'd run out of money in Germany in a book for a project 5 or so years ago. Sorry it's not more concrete but I have seen repeated mention of his excessive love of gambling. I think it's worthwhile. TheMidnighters 6 July 2005 23:52 (UTC)
::Dostoevsky's own obssesion with gambling led to him writing The Gambler much from first-hand experience. Mandel 05:18, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compulsive Gambling 

message: Dostoevsky abandoned his earlier liberal sentiments and became deeply conservative and extremely religious.
This is an old saw that people keep repeating. But is this really true ? D. was not really more religious after than before his prison years ; I believe he still had doubts afterwards. The change in political ideas is more obvious, but should not be exagerated. He was not a die-hard socialist before and did not become a supporter of slavery and authoritarian government after. Am I wrong ?
--82.249.83.67 20:24, 28 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It is most definitely a turning point. Prior to Dostoevsky's imprisonment, he was essentially a Westernizer; after his release, he became a clear Slavophile. But not only that, many of the themes he explores draw heavily on his experiences with the Tsarist "justice" system. I can't even imagine what his writing would have been like without that. --Todeswalzer|Talk 12:53, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  is D's imprisonment really a turning point ? 

message: Added Dostoevsky short story section. It is important. Any summaries would be laudable. The other thing is that White Nights (a short story) has a link to a thing about Russian nights ... how do I create a new page with the same link? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by UAAC (talk • contribs) .
:I went ahead and started the article at White Nights (short story). --TheMidnighters 19:03, 21 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Short Stories

message: "Dostoevsky himself, however, described his underground man as an example of nihilistic ideas taken to the extreme whose reprehensible personality is a vivid argument for the need for faith and Christ in the modern world (see the forward to the new translation by Pevear and Volokhonsky)."
I own this mentioned edition as well as the book of Dostoevsky's letters. I have yet to find such a comment coming from Dostoevsky. Can anyone help?
LoveMonkey 05:08, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well yes I am going to let the cat out of the bag (metaphorically of course) the Underground man is not nihilist he's is a pyrrhonian. The pyrrhonian thought in the West (which is not as clearly a Greek/Hellenistic based society as say Russia) would be very easly "misunderstood" as a belief in nothing which is what nihilism is in it's essence. Pyrrhonianism is skepticism to the conclusiveness of human interruption. As a pyrrhonain the Underground Man is still searching for the truth and is unsatisfied with the "swallow" truth that the world has accepted. Unlike the some he has not yet found the truth and he does not addressed the potential for truth within the realm of spiritual or religious exercise or practice from either an ascetic or aesthetics one. talk LoveMonkey 12:35, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: underground a nihilist

message: Can anyone post where dostoevsky stated that he was critisizing atheistic socialism and not socialism? Please show me where dostoevsky made such a distinction. In his words, works writings.
LoveMonkey 01:31, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think anyone interpreting Dostoevsky through his novels needs to be especially careful, since virtually all of them are highly polyphonic. After reading all of his major novels, however, it is my opinion that Dostoevsky wasn't just against "Atheistic Socialism," but all forms of it. His concern was that socialism threatened to rob the individual of free choice: by claiming that utopia was possible, socialism advanced the notion that all human actions could be reduced to "rational self-interest" and that the government had but to scientifically determine what that self-interst was and then apply it on a massive scale. This is an argument that I think he makes especially well in "Notes from Underground." His problem with atheism as being essentially "non-Russian" just made this version of socialism that much worse. --Todeswalzer 05:10, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: atheistic socialism

message: Hi, I would like to add an external link to the World of Biography entry
*  probably the most famous portal of biography to this article. Does anybody have any objections?
: please do not add this to the article, and please read the incident report before giving the go-ahead.  This is spam and not link-worthy under WP:EL; the articles contain many distortions, lack citations, and contain nothing that wouldn't fit directly in the wiki article.  a link to worldofbiography has been placed on over 70 talk pages by User:Jameswatt.  thanks.  --He:ah? 20:57, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: link

message: It is unimaginable that anything could be less relevant to a person who wants to read about Dostoevsky than such things as the fact that a character in Family Guy reads Crime and Punishment in one episode.
It seems to me that this section should either change its name to "Pop Cultural References"; be radically changed so as to include only such cultural references as are actually in any way significant, such as the quote from Nietzsche which is already there, or, say, the fact that Freud wrote on Dostoevsky and declared him to be "not far behind Shakespeare"; or it should simply be removed.
:I've been wondering about that too. I think there's precedent to split it off into its own article (there are some other similar articles like List of cultural references to A Clockwork Orange). That way the more notable references/comments (by Nietzsche, Freud) can stay on this page, and other less notable references can go to the list. Any objections? --TM 11:42, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone ahead and removed all pop culture references (as most are cruft, barely notable/relevant) leaving Nietzsche's comment in the trivia section. Should anyone want to see the list to create an article or whatever, the version of the article with the list can be found here. --TM 21:28, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cultural references" section 

message: Not really a beef to do with D himself but the list of 'universal writers' is a bit wierd. I've added Tolstoy who surely is more universally recognised now than Hugo who doesn't have much a reputation anymore internationally. Even the French aren't that sold on him now. Shouldn't Charles Dickens be included as well? He remains a universally admired author and he was an immense influence on Dostoyevsky who loved his work. ThePeg 2006
:I would say: remove Hugo, possibly remove Tolstoy, and add Homer. — goethean ॐ 21:03, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say remove all the examples, but leave the link to universal world authors for those who want to see some examples, and simply having the sentence read: "By common critical consensus one among the handful of universal world authors, Dostoevsky has decisively influenced twentieth century literature, existentialism and expressionism in particular." This leaves the debate to who qualifies as a universal world author to its respective article rather than here, where the examples don't serve much of a purpose anyway. --TM 13:07, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Universal writers

message: I've started an approach that may apply to Wikipedia's Core Biography articles: creating a branching list page based on in popular culture information.  I started that last year while I raised Joan of Arc to featured article when I created Cultural depictions of Joan of Arc, which has become a featured list.  Recently I also created Cultural depictions of Alexander the Great out of material that had been deleted from the biography article.  Since cultural references sometimes get deleted without discussion, I'd like to suggest this approach as a model for the editors here.  Regards, Durova 16:43, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Cultural depictions of Fyodor Dostoevsky]] 

message: I've done a cleanup of the biographical section of this article: Wikifying it, copyediting it, and stylediting it for NPOV. Someone with a better grasp of literary theory than me needs to have a go at the works & influence section. At the moment it reads like an essay or a review and is not suitable for an encyclopedia, though there is a fair bit of interesting information. Could definitely do with some more references throughout, too. I've marked a couple of specific places, which I hope is helpful. -- TinaSparkle 18:34, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: Doing some final exam review, and wanted to post his feelings about Jews, this is brief, but more information is at this link: http://community.middlebury.edu/~beyer/courses/previous/ru351/studentpapers/Anti-semite.shtml 
Perpetuated blood libel ideas in his texts.  Joseph Frank calls Dostoevsky a “guilty anti-Semite.”  He struggled with his opinion about Jews, but by denying anti-Semitism it seems that his ultimate feelings were not classically anti-Semitic, more-so insincere.  His opportunistic anti-Semitism bolstered in his famous writings perpetuated anti-Semitic feelings in the world, for which he feels guilty for later.
---reply                 I read the link. Really. The whole characterization of Alyosha being 'discredited' is inane. Yes, Alyosha is shown as completely ignorant of the Jewish people: but he neither defends them nor accuses them. Take into account all the real anti-semitism in Russia at the time (Pogroms, etc.), and is it any surprise the Alyhosha, a 20 year old novice with no education, is completely ignorant about the Jews? In fact, if he had been anything else, it would have been unbelievable. As for Alyosha 'calmly listening to Lise' when he should have been defending Judaism, that was the last thing going on in the story! As for 'calmly listening'--it had nothing to do with tacit condemnation of Judaism. Alyosha is watching his former and only love talk about how she rejects his religion and how much she loves evil for evil's sake (and shortly thereafter tries to seduce Alyosha's brother). And really, compared to the whole climate of the nineteenth century Russia, its actually a wonder that Dostoevsky WASN'T any more 'anti-Semitic' then the status quo.--Rivka-bat-Chava 00:18, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Anti-Semitism" section 

message: This article  claims that Dostoevsky suffered from Hypergraphia -- a brain disorder giving a constant impulse to write. Somebody should add it to the article, but I dont have the time to fit it in somewhere. Robinoke 00:46, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hypergraphia 

message: 3rd paragraph:
"many people make the error of assuming that the father figure in The Brothers Karamazov is from Dostoevsky's own father. In fact, letters and personal accounts show that they had a fairly loving relationship."
4th paragraph:
The figure of his domineering father would exert a large effect upon Dostoevsky's work, and is notably seen through the character of Fyodor Pavlovich Karamazov, the "wicked and sentimental buffoon" father of the three main characters in his 1880 novel The Brothers Karamazov.
I don't know which, if either, is correct but it can't be both! Cyclopsface 08:27, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was just about to post the same contradiction. It seems pretty obvious that it was written by two different hands. It would be great to have citations that support each assertion, mainly the first one, which seems to be against the common "assumption". Nazroon 08:29, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction in the Early Life Section 

message: In spite of similarities in their themes, do we have any evidence that Dostoevsky ever read Kierkegaard? Prometheus912 11:09, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kierkegaard as influence 

message: What happened to that wonderful portrait of Dostoevsky and why was it removed? --Todeswalzer|Talk 12:54, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like it's back. - Throw 05:51, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened to the portrait? 

message: I wonder if I'm the only one to be a bit bemused by the list of people said to be "influenced by" Dostoyevsky? I'm not usually comfortable with the inclusion of such a list anyway; it usually turns out to be a means by which people who admire a lesser talent seek to give their chosen hero more status than they deserve by linking his or her name to a greater one, on very flimsy evidence. And in an article on a particular artist, the names of the people who influenced him are surely vastly more important than a list of people who once read a book of his.
But even given those reservations, this list is downright silly - if Bob Dylan has created any monumental works of literature, I've somehow overlooked them.  Unless anyone objects I'm intending to clean the list out. --Stephen Burnett 13:10, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, so I took a hack at it. I added Cervantes to the list of influences and included an internet article from a reliable source to back this up. Also, given Cervantes' works and importance in world literature, I doubt anyone would think he's just a small time author I'm trying to glorify. Also, I sorted all the influencing authors, influencing philosophers, and influenced "people" alphabetically by last name since they seemed to have no order whatsoever before. If somebody disagrees with this, please do find a better order.Bernalj90 22:13, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Influenced by ??

message: I am removing the uncited claim that Dostoevsky is of Polish descent, because Dostoevsky is derived from Dostoev, a city in Lithuania, and the claim is false.
Also removing the claim that he died confronting death in a blinding snowstorm. It is common knowledge that he died of a lung hemmorage
:: I happen to agree with the anonymous user who removed the uncited claims.  How about we add them back in if someone finds a citation?  What's more, every source I can find seems to confirm that he died of a lung hemorrhage -- not from disappearing in a snow storm. --JayHenry 20:38, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Uncited Claims

message: I know it is easy for people to overlook the influence Christianity had on Dostoevsky's work, as he is incredibly talented at giving alternative viewpoints to his own beliefs, i.e. The Grand Inquisitor, however, I think more emphasis must be given in this regard, for as much as I'd like to believe that Dostoevsky was not a avid Christian, it simply is not true.  The inclusion of this portion of Dostoevsky's life seems glossed over in the article, would anyone be willing to perhaps add a section on this matter.  I'm certainly not an expert, but I could scrounge up some sources on this if need be.  Also, his relationship with the Staretz Amvrosy should be included as well.
To say he was not an avid Christian is idiotic. The Grand Inquisitor is proof. He despised the Catholic Church, the section was written because he was so devoted to the Orthodox Church. It was written as a way to distance Catholicism from God, Christianity was very dear to him. Why else would Alyosha be his hero? Just because he didn't quote the Bible, doesn't mean that his humanism didn't stem from Christianity. Read between the lines and study the man more, you're either very ignorant or you're just beginning
--4/27/07 Matthew MC —The preceding unsigned comment was added by VonnegutIce9 (talk • contribs) 04:34, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christian Influences 

message: I don't believe that Dostoevsky would hold Dickens in such high esteem as to call him an influence... this is just my intuition though...
is there any source for this citation?
:Yep, it's true - after Dickens was translated into Russian his books were a major influence: 
:Among English writers Dostoevsky admired Shakespeare, Sir Walter Scott, Byron, and in particular Dickens ... In his Omsk prison Dostoevsky read Pickwick Papers and David Copperfield. His letters and notebooks are full of references to Dickens, and they share an interest in such major subjects as the city, children, crime, and the suffering of the innocent. Oxford Companion to English Literature 5th Edition, Margaret Drabble (Editor) OUP 1985. I don't have time to work this into the article myself, but anyone who wishes is welcome to use it. --Stephen Burnett 00:57, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for including a reference; however, I think a more substantial connection needs to be established demonstrating how, exactly, Dickens' writing influenced Dostoyevsky's. The statement that "... they share an interest in such major subjects as the city, children, crime, and the suffering of the innocent" doesn't seem to me to be very revealing. Many authors who lived during the Industrial Revolution(s) were also preoccupied with such things, but that doesn't necessarily mean they all "influenced" each other. Given the state of Russia at the time Dostoyevsky was writing, I hardly think he needed much influencing to be driven to write about the things he did. --Todeswalzer|Talk 22:06, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charles Dickens as an influence? 

message: In re: "...is considered[citation needed] the greatest prose writer of Russian literature, far beyond his close contemporary Leo Tolstoy."
What?? This is downright nonsense! There are MANY who consider Tolstoy superior to Dostoevsky. I am not one of them, but this very subjective and demonstrably false statement has no business being in this article. The "citation needed" superscript does not adequately remedy this problem. Please amend this paragraph. --216.73.249.187 19:55, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Intro paragraph

message: Why is there a separate section in this article about Dostoevsky and Tchaikovsky? The relationship (if that is the appropriate term) between these two figures is so tenuous and irrelevant that the inclusion of this section is simply mind-boggling. Can we please remove it or at least try better to justify its presence? --68.173.15.57 01:48, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Why Tchaikovsky?

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message: This section of the article is misleading. In the first place, 'Rebellion' is not a "paper" that Dostoevsky wrote. It is the title of a chapter in The Brothers Karamazov (Book 5, Chapter 4). In addition, it was Dostoevsky's character Ivan who "asks the question..." and "makes the point..." It's a brilliant passage and is probably ok to leave in the article, but the way it is currently framed implies that Dostoevsky himself came to the same conclusion as Ivan. In actuality, Dostoevsky envisioned Book 6 as well as the novel in its entirety as a response to Book 5--See Volume 5 of Joseph Frank's seminal biography. As this section of the article stands now (the last section with any substantial amount of text), it implies that this one chapter is Dostoyevsky's definitive statement concerning god/God. It does not do justice to the depth of Dostoevsky's thought.  
If anyone has more editorial skills than myself this section may be worth editing. Thanks and Best,
Bernard.demerch 04:45, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I took a shot at making the corrections you were right to point out but I feel it still needs expansion. Something along the lines that Ivan argues noone can forgive those who torture children and Alyosha's response that Jesus can, that love, mercy, forgiveness, etc is the answer. --TM 08:53, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dostoevsky's Rebellion?? 

message: A short section with generalistic and sketchy details and rather messy phrasing.  Can somebody provide clear examples of this and better explain why it is important? D. J. Cartwright 08:10, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This section needs to be summaraized into perhaps one sentence, cited, and moved up to the previous section about Dostoevsky's influence. As it stands now, although the claims might likely be valid, without citation, the writing style is a bit like "ranting" (no offense to the writer of the passage).  --RossF18 13:27, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What worries me about the new sourced version of the section is that it is a word for word copy of the unsourced version added previously by the same editor and the language remains polemical ("fanatical aversion", "hatred", "offends the eye", etc). In addition, since all the links are dead (at least for me), I can't verify the claims at present. (If someone else can access the articles please verify the content and perhaps provide relevant quotations.) Once, or if, it is properly sourced the whole section could be reduced to its ultimate point: that Dostoevsky illustrated Polish people negatively because he perceived them to adhere to Western European ideals, rather than the pan-Slavism Dostoevsky promoted. I think this would fit well after the description of his anti-Semitism in the influences section. Thoughts? --TM 01:15, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

text: The links are live, but the addresses were added slightly incorrectly. Here they are: , , . --TM 01:21, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

text: How's this for a start to a paragraph after the ant-Semitism bit in Influences: "The pan-Slavism that contributed to Dostoevsky's evident anti-Semitism, arguably also lead to his dislike, or even hatred, of "French, Germans, and Poles". Joseph Frank even argues that Poles are portrayed more negatively than Jews in Dostoevsky's novels.  However, critic Nina Perlina states that Dostoevsky was "able to portray appreciatively the traditional Polish characteristics of individuality and national pride". . Razvan Ungureanu argues that Dostoevsky, in The House of the Dead, "defends Russian colonialism through a portrayal of the Other [Poles] that is belittling and even factually incorrect".  As is largely the case for his anti-Semitism, Dostoevsky's negative views and literary portrayals of foreigners, particularly Poles, are founded on his fervent Russian nationalism." I know it doesn't flow well (this person argues, this person argues, etc.) but I think it's better than what was there before. I still think it could be shortened to one sentence but I feel this is a more accurate summary of what the three sources present. --TM 02:13, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds fine. Only thing is where does  As is largely the case for his anti-Semitism, Dostoevsky's negative views and literary portrayals of foreigners, particularly Poles, are founded on his fervent Russian nationalism." sentence come from. There is a quote mark at the end of the sentence, but there is no opening quote and no source. Once you source that, you can include that sentence. Other sentences work fine. --RossF18 14:59, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "fanatical aversion to Poles" 

message: In 1847, Dostoevsky wrote an small novell called "Hhozyaika", sometimes translated as "The Landlady". Does anyone have information about this work?
Thanks.--Nauki 10:40, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Khozyaika 

message: I don't quite buy this one. A citation would be handy. Dickens was only a decade his elder, and it doesn't seem likely that he would be strongly influenced by an Englishman. Can someone look into this?--Chopin-Ate-Liszt! (talk) 01:29, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, I failed to notice the external link for 'writer'
My apologies...I ought to be more careful. --Chopin-Ate-Liszt! (talk) 01:30, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Dickens, an influence?

message: This is a poor article on a great an important writer. I will work on it soon. Joseph Frank's now complete biography is an excellent source of reference material for those who want to be met to the punch and fix this up. Please do.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mahakaya (talk • contribs) 05:32, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I will fix this up soon. 

message: Hi -- I think saying Hemingway cites Dostoevsky as a "major influence" in A Moveable Feast is an overstatement.  Hemingway praises D., but he's notably chary of giving credit (even where it's due) in terms of influence.  I think this needs to be revised.  (Can get you all refs to D. in AMF if you like.)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 38.96.130.194 (talk) 16:02, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hemingway, Moveable Feast