Talk:Brazilians

message: The picture in this article does not depict the brazilian people
properly. The photograph of Marina Silva is distorted. You should
take out Ronaldo and put young Zico in, in my opinion. That would
make for a more balanced picture of the population. Jhdf (talk) 09:09, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who to include 

message: Has a population of 9 million Brazilians? Lebanon doesn't even have 9 million Lebanese people.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.29.231.81 (talk) 21:28, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lebanon

message: In the last revision I edited, I found duplicate named references, i.e. references sharing the same name, but not having the same content. Please check them, as I am not able to fix them automatically :) 
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message: There's an IP claiming as it follows: " A notable exeption to this system is the fact that any brown (pardo) person is considered white if they have any european blood in them no matter how small, these "brown-white" mixed people make up approximately 78% of Brazils "White" population".
There are no sources about it, because nobody never did a resource to know that 78% of white Brazilians are actually a "pardo" with with "any European blood". If the IP has sources about it, bring them. If he does not, please, stop including this insane information in the article. Opinoso (talk) 13:33, 10 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Resource? 

message: No, Darcy Ribeiro is not a follower of Gilberto Freyre, and he does criticise "racial democracy".
However, his words, taken out of context, can be used to perpetuate the "racial democracy" myth.
That's the reason Ribeiro's (or anyone else's) criticism of the concept of "racial democracy" isn't included in this article. To protect the myth that Brazil is a country without racism, that the Paulista elite (the bandeirantes) are in fact caboclos, etc. The reality of racial discrimination in Brazil is by this mean negated...User:Ninguém (talk) 20:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Racial democracy 

message: Somebody posted a picture of a woman claiming she was "Pardo" (brown). There's no source to claim what "race" the woman was. Unless there are sources to claim the woman was reported as "Pardo", she'll represent a Black Brazilian woman (which is what she looked to be) or the picture will be removed. Opinoso (talk) 22:10, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The other user posted as a source a book which is not avaible online, which seems not to be correct when there's a conflict of content going on. Moreover, the term "Pardo" was used in the 19th century more to describe a free slave than a person of mixed-race heritage. Moreover, in Brazil people self-report their race and nobody is able to say what race another person is, without using a source reporting what race the person reported to be. And race in Brazil is more based on skin color, and a Mulato person can be described as Black, Mulato itself or even White, and it depends of his/her skin color. I already asked a third opinion about an user describing another person's race without source. Opinoso (talk) 23:05, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Brazilian "IBGE" does no longer accept people to declare their ethnic background by themselves anymore because of the great number of "colours" reported. And for obvious reasons, we cannot expect that a woman that lived in the 19th Century would report herself as "mulatto" or "black" similar as it was done by IBGE in the 20th Century. Moreover, there is no obligation at all to every book to be on-line. And in monarchical Brazil the Brazilian pardos were White/Black and White/Indians and not "free slaves". You cannot start an edit war because of your personal beliefes and more: WITHOUT SOURCES. Prove that in Brazil during the Empire pardos were free-slaves. Prove. - --Lecen (talk) 23:28, 16 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, IBGE does. It gives people some options and people chose them. If the Black woman in the picture reported to be White, she would be counted as White. You should also prove that the source you gave reported that woman to be "Pardo". Opinoso (talk) 14:16, 17 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mulatto or black or pardo? 

message: The article states,
:Anyone born abroad to a Brazilian parent (jus sanguinis), with registration of birth in a Brazilian Embassy or Consulate.
But this is not jus sanguinis. Jus sanguinis is the recognition by a State of actual or potential citizenship to descendants of its nationals abroad, and the denial of such citizenhip to descendants of foreign people, who would need to undergo a nationalisation process to aquire citizenship. The Brazilian State requires a stated intention of keeping Brazilian nationality (the registration in Embassy or Consulate) and does not extend its nationality towards those who are simply descendants of Brazilians. Conversely, it grants Brazilian citizenship to all who are born in Brazilian territory (except those whose parents are at the service of their respective States).
Brazil is a jus soli nation, in the French tradition. Ninguém (talk) 20:12, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jus sanguinis 

message: The section "Brazilian identity" does indeed rely largely or entirely upon a single source. The intelligent introduction of appropriate citations of, and use of, additional sources would improve the article. The template immediately under the section title "Brazilian identity" is a useful reminder of this, and therefore should not be removed. -- Hoary (talk) 16:23, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Sourcing of "Brazilian identity"

message: Why pic of Oscar Niemeyer is not in the infobox album? It is generally regarded that he is one of the greatest Brazilians.--Kiril Simeonovski (talk) 09:34, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Oscar Niemeyer]] 

message: There is a large literature about the complex relations between ethnicity and race in Brazil this article ignores it and constructs a purely biological view of race that is quite simply wrong. Specifically there is a large body of literature that shows that in Brazil biological phenotype or continental ancestry is not the main content of the racial categories, but rather socio-economic status. Untill this liyterature is included in the article a very incomplete picture of how race and ethnicity works in Brazil is being presented here.·Maunus·ƛ· 13:00, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Heres some of the literature that should definitely be included in this article, but isn't:
*Rebecca Lynn Reichmann. Race in contemporary Brazil: from indifference to inequality. Penn State Press, 1999
*Skidmore, T. E. & Safford, F. (1974). Black into White: Race and Nationality in Brazilian Thought. History: Reviews of New Books, 3(2), 40-40. 
*Edward Eric TellesRace in another America: the significance of skin color in Brazil. Princeton University Press, 2004
*Edward E. Telles and Nelson Lim. Does it Matter Who Answers the Race Question? Racial Classification and Income Inequality in Brazil. Demography Vol. 35, No. 4 (Nov., 1998), pp. 465-474 
*Anthony W. Marx. Making race and nation: a comparison of South Africa, the United States, and Brazil. Cambridge University Press, 1998
*Peter Fry. Politics, Nationality, and the Meanings of "Race" in Brazil. Daedalus. Vol. 129, No. 2, Brazil: The Burden of the past; The Promise of the Future (Spring, 2000), pp. 83-118 
*Htun, Mala. From "Racial Democracy" to Affirmative Action: Changing State Policy on Race in Brazil. Latin American Research Review - Volume 39, Number 1, 2004, pp. 60-89
*Robin E. Sheriff. Dreaming equality: color, race, and racism in urban Brazil.  Rutgers University Press, 2001
*Livio Sansone. Blackness without ethnicity: constructing race in Brazil. Palgrave Macmillan, 2003
*Winant, Howard. Rethinking Race in Brazil. Journal of Latin American Studies (1992), 24: 173-192 Cambridge University Press ·Maunus·ƛ· 18:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The article could also incorporate material from the much better article on Race in Brazil.·Maunus·ƛ· 18:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: Why it says in the "Religions" right panel section "Roman Catholicism" ?
Brazil is a secular country with no oficial religion. "Roman Catholicism" may be the major religion, but there is a lot of religions in the country, so why just one in this section? This is untruth.
Better to write "There is no oficial religion, but Roman Catholicism predominates" or cite/name the major types (using IBGE data as source).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.58.17.238 (talk) 03:29, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion 

message: Seemingly there is a significant number of commentators which support the general removal of infobox collages. I think there is a great opportunity to get a general agreement on this matter. It is clear that it has to be a broad consensus, which must involve as many editors as possible, otherwise there is a big risk for this decision to be challenged in the near future. I opened a Request for comment process, hoping that more people will adhere to this proposal. Please comment here. Hahun (talk) 07:20, 1 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal for the deletion of all the galleries of personalities from the articles about ethnic groups 

message: Substituted at 10:13, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Somebody has been including unsourced figures for the diasporas in Brazil. I have removed them all. Xuxo (talk) 19:17, 5 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diaspora figures 

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message: This article had a lot of original research, with information without sources. Moreover, many "information" had sources, but when you open them and read them, the "information" were not in the given source. I removed them. Xuxo (talk) 18:41, 23 February 2023 (UTC)
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