Talk:United States invasion of Panama

message: Shouldn't this section be on international law, rather than US domestic politics?Keith-264 (talk) 13:11, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: *The international law part, which doesn't support the US very much, is pretty well covered under the international reaction section isn't it?Especially since the US didn't seek any international approval. So it had the reasons it felt justified, invaded, then there was international reaction and those pointing out the international law issues. Chronological does seem to work.Niteshift36 (talk) 13:15, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  United States' justification for the invasion 

message: I have removed the parenthetical from the paragraph about the journalist. I don't particularly care if it's true or not; it's not supported by the provided source, which nowhere says anything about tanks.
I have removed the wording from the same paragraph calling it a "lawsuit". Again, this is not supported by the source. The word "sue" does not necessitate that it be a "lawsuit". For something to be a lawsuit, it needs to involve a court of law. If it does not involve a court of law, it is not a lawsuit. Thus the "law" in "lawsuit".
If these changes are undone without providing sufficient sourcing, I will undo them. If this results in an edit war I will happily go to ANI.Timothyjosephwood (talk) 02:04, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: *I have no intention of changing it. Niteshift36 (talk) 02:07, 2 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources are good 

message: Any opinions on moving the list of US units to a separate location? It adds a lot of length that isn't really needed, especially since the bulk of units aren't notable in and of themselves. Niteshift36 (talk) 16:56, 15 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: *Raising this again. If there's no objection, I'm moving them. 5 years is a long enough wait for input.Niteshift36 (talk) 14:36, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moving list of units 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: A non-notable author named Stewart Brewer wrote a non-notable book called "Borders and Bridges: A History of U.S.-Latin American Relations" Why are we giving an entire paragraph to his opinion? There are many non-notable people who have written non-notable books that are still reliable sources. Why does this man merit inclusion over any of those? Why is his POV being given that weight? Niteshift36 (talk) 18:36, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Niteshift36 invented his complaint from thin air.  "Notability" of a scholar is NOT a Wikipedia criteria--we have the ingredients we want --a scholarly book from a major publisher (Praeger) and favorable reviews testify to its RS status. It is included in a major review article in the leading scholarly journal on Lat Am in its coverage of the 8 most important recent books in English and Spanish in Recent Works On U.S.-Latin American Relations," Latin American Research Review (2009) pp 247-56. The book is a well-regarded scholarly survey that presents an important position.  Inclusion is required by WP:NPOV rules. Rjensen (talk) 21:32, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: *A textbook publisher. It may have been reviewed someplace, but how you go from that to being "required" is the real invention here. We're not required to pick out a random quote from a random book and put it in this article. His (lack of) notability is a factor. Yes, non-notables can be used, but there's usually a reason for it. Just picking out this guy and saying we're required doesn't wash. There are many authors that have an opinion. If this guy was notable or the book had received a lot of significant coverage by reliable third party sources, there may be a case for it. But trying to invoke NPOV improperly doesn't do it. Niteshift36 (talk) 21:45, 3 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why do we give a non-notable author his own paragraph? 

message: The infobox cites page 6 of Ronald H. Cole's Operation Just Cause: The Planning and Execution of Joint Operations in Panama for the claim that Cuba, Nicaragua and Libya provided "Weapons and advisors" to Panama in the conflict. The source does not support this claim. It says that in the years leading up to the war Libya provided economic assistance to Panama in exchange for military access, while Cuba and Nicaragua provided weapons and military advisors.
While it is possible that those weapons and military advisors were involved in this particular conflict, the source does not say so, and it is misleading to include them without a source to support the claim; otherwise, it makes it seems like Cuba and Nicaragua actively supported Panama in the conflict, when that may not necessarily have been the case. --Joshua Issac (talk) 17:54, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed the above entries, as well as further unsourced additions (USSR and North Korea). --Joshua Issac (talk) 19:01, 20 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weapons and advisors (failed verification)