Talk:Pan flute

message: In the picture of the man playing a "zampoña", he isn't playing one. He's playing an "Antara", like a "Zampoña" but bigger. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 201.230.118.148 (talk) 03:46, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why don't you go ahead and change the caption then? +ILike2BeAnonymous 03:56, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the Photograph 

message: It seems to me that the name "syrinx" for the instrument predates the use of the word for the sound organ of birds.  Surely the Pan pipes were being played before the anatomy of birds was investigated70.161.208.216 14:56, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sryinx

message: how come Douglas Bishop is before Zamfir and should his name directly link to his site? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.41.251.137 (talk) 13:41, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's called - alphabetical order. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.60.50.115 (talk) 03:46, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  first panflutist 

message: I have to say that i am suprised tha wikipedia have more information on the pan flute 
For ,me it was very helpful!  
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.168.10.54 (talk) 09:14, 6 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  pan flute 

message: Is the instrument Traditional and is the panflute the instrument in the picture
(95.147.252.182 (talk) 17:51, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Pan_flute

message: I may be wrong here, but I believe a better way of writing the formula L = (c / f) / 4 would be L = c / (4 * f) or even just L = c / 4f. I can't think of any way the first would be better, but I could easily be wrong, so I was just wanting to get some opinions on it first. Toastnbacon (talk) 03:35, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Math!

message: African Wind Instruments: The Nyanga Pan Pipes And Kudu Horns. Hope this might help. Komitsuki (talk) 09:13, 1 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  African pan flutes 

message: The siku and syrinx are completely different instruments! They're of similiar structure and method, but ultimately of different origins.
And this article can't seem to decide whether it's talking about panflutes as a whole or a singular instrument. What is going on here? What is this article supposed to be describing?Artheartsoul1 (talk) 05:08, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: What is this article supposed to be about?

message: I deleted the uncited claim about the pan flute being the earliest mouth organ and the ancestor of the pipe organ and harmonica. There was no citation and the passive voice didn't tell us who thought that. In any event, there is good reason to believe it is simply wrong. Harmonicas and pipe organs use fundamentally different modes of sound production from that of the pan flute. Although sheng-type harmonicas have similar-looking tubes and organs have pipes, that alone does not show a connection, much less one of ancestry. If authors want to make that claim, find a source that shows the connection and backs it up. 
-Fenevad (talk) 01:32, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancestor of harmonica and pipe organ? Maybe not 

message: The usual rule on Wikipedia is that articles should be titled with their most usual English language name. I was a little surprised to see it called "Pan flute" because I have never heard that name before; asking around the room, no-one else here had heard it before, either. Checking on Google Ngram viewer supports this:
Ngrams of grouped variant names
As with many compound words, there has been much variation on whether it should be one word, two words, or hyphenated. However these variants are an order of magnitude more common than the rather obscure (and also fairly novel) flute variants.
As for which variant of "panpipes" should be used:
Ngrams of individual variations
Here we see that while preferences have waxed and waned -- and all are common enough to warrant a redirect -- the variant "panpipes" has been the most common for 100 years. In fact for large parts of that period, it has been more common than all other variants put together.
As an interesting aside, the chart seems to suggest that this is probably due to Peter Pan. Prior to 1904, "panpipes" was the second-least common variant. All of its surges in usage coincide with major Peter Pan films. Of course, you don't get the hyphenation from a film; but perhaps people who liked the film went out and bought the book.
-- 122.200.24.28 (talk) 09:19, 27 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I am also very surprised that the present article is entitled "Pan flute". The Google ngram-viewer shows clearly that the name "panpipes" is by far the most common; "pan flute" and "panflute" barely figure. (See this link.) In view of this the article should be moved to "Panpipes", although first it will be necessary to delete the redirect page of that name. Kanjuzi (talk) 10:39, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Please start a formal WP:RM discussion. I see article-history evidence that this might be opposed by some editors. DMacks (talk) 17:02, 8 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I listed the article but it seems nothing happened and the record seems to have disappeared. Shall I try again? It seems to me obvious that the title should be Panpipes, since this is much the most common name according to Google ngram-viewer. Kanjuzi (talk) 16:44, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: All you did was list it as an uncontroversial/obvious move. This is now the third time I'm telling you that this is not uncontroversial, and therefore simply telling an admin "please move it for me" is not going to work. Instead, and now for the third or maybe fourth time, "please start a formal WP:RM discussion." DMacks (talk) 18:16, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title should be "Panpipes"