Talk:Lord Alfred Douglas

message: I feel that the article very quickly veers off into multiple side issues involving other family members.  Not that those are not interesting, but I found it annoying.  Maybe subtitles would help, so one can skim over those paragraphs.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.100.228.58 (talk) 16:00, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: General point

message: I believe that later in life Douglas became a Nazi or a Nazi sympathizer. If someone knows something substantive about this, it should probably be added to the article. -- Jmabel | Talk 20:15, Jan 23, 2005 (UTC)
:Douglas translated The Protocols of the Elders of Zion into English in 1919, one of the first translations of that notorious anti-Semitic piece of propaganda. This is documented in Norman Cohn's "Warrant for Genocide".
:: No, he did not. --JHumphries (talk) 18:08, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I believe that "Bosie" should link here, as those searching for a clarification from Oscar Wilde's letter will most likely search this term first. 
CaveatLector 04:32, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely. Wilco. -- Jmabel | Talk 22:13, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bosie 

message: I have deleted the reference to Douglas being a KBE, which was incorrect. Jason Boyd 23:02, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  KBE 

message: I also added some material to the entry and clarifed some parts.Jason Boyd 13:44, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Bibliography & Secondary Sources 

message: I think the recent retitling of sections and breakdown into small sections (the edit also makes a couple of improvements in the text) is ill-conceived and the names used are basically ill-chosen (too informal). I won't revert them singlehandedly, but would support reverting at least the bulk of them. Other opinions would be welcome. - Jmabel | Talk 06:53, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sectioning 

message: He was born today, congratulations, mate! He would have been 136 today, way to go=)) --Shandristhe azylean 12:25, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthday! 

message: Available. Ty 08:44, 23 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: PD image

message: The article gives a very negative image of the Douglas family. Unfaily, there's no mention of the achievements of later family members, in Australia, who were well known in medicine and the law.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.244.141.141 (talk) 06:07, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Negative Image of Douglas' 

message: This article says that Douglas "published" the Protocols and cites Murray as a source.  I'm reading this book now, there is only one mention of the Protocols and it doesn;t say Douglas published them, only that he read them and believed them.  If I don't find another source for this I'm going to revise accordingly.Shrikeangel (talk) 01:44, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Half a year later, no evidence has been brought forward. Just two editors that are intent on branding Bosie as an antisemite. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 01:37, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Bosie's activities at "Plain English" mag are now documented.--Galassi (talk) 02:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Most notable of that weekly was the accusation that Churchill would have plotted to murder Kitchener, which led to the libel suit already mentioned in the article. If he believed that, of course he also believed the Protocols, it is insignificant in comparison. And :category:Antisemitism is not for biographical articles anyway. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 08:59, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Douglas's Plain English (from No 20, 20 November 1920) advertised George Shanks's "The Jewish Peril" version of the Protocols published by The Britons , and Douglas and the magazine referred/defended the Protocols,  — Preceding unsigned comment added by JHumphries (talk • contribs) 18:07, 10 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protocols of the Elders of Zion 

message: As the contributor to the Plain English section I feel I should just make a personal comment for the benefit of others who may not have the same access to material as I. No one should be in any doubt as to the content of Plain English. With the exception of the very first issues it is often literally page after page (but not exclusively) with some comment or allegation about the Jews, or specific Jews. Douglas in "A Personal Statement By Lord Alfred Douglas", Issue 50, 18 June 1921, would state that Plain English had been "my own personal organ of opinion" and he indicates the intention was to "put down Lloyd George and his Jewish paymasters, and bring back into power the old revived Conservative party, which has so long languished in impotent slavery", and I would suggest that is what needs to be understood. What is difficult to add to the article without the risk of WP:ORIGINAL, is that Plain English and the activities of Alan_Percy,_8th_Duke_of_Northumberland needs to be considered in the context of the British right and their reaction to the Lloyd_George_ministry#Peacetime_Cabinet.2C_January_1919_.E2.80.93_October_1922 with its dealings with Sinn Fein and the League of Nations, and the seeming destruction of the British empire in Egypt and India, to which they would then focus/blame on various Jewish individuals, and Jews in general. There is no reason to perceive Douglas as some sort of proto-nazi thug or what have you, there is every reason to perceive that he hated Lloyd George and the Daily Mail. --JHumphries (talk) 07:32, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Plain English

message: Naples and Paris
This meeting was disapproved of by the friends and families of both men. During the later part of 1897, Wilde and Douglas lived together in Rouen, but for financial pressures and other personal reasons, they separated. Wilde lived the remainder of his life primarily in Paris, and Douglas returned to England in late 1898.
The period when the two men lived in Rouen would later become quite controversial. Wilde claimed that Douglas had offered a home, but had no funds or ideas. When Douglas eventually did gain funds from his late father's estate, he refused to grant Wilde a permanent allowance, although he did give him occasional handouts. When Wilde died in 1900, he was still officially bankrupt and relatively impoverished. Douglas served as chief mourner, although there reportedly was an altercation at the gravesite between him and Robbie Ross. This struggle would preview the later litigations between the two former lovers of Oscar Wilde.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jon Davies WMUK (talk • contribs) 22:38, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naples - where are you? 

message: The second half of the lede refers to his poetry and his political stance. These are not referenced in the article. Valetude (talk) 21:43, 17 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lede doesn't summarise article 

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message: A lot of crap writing  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2405:204:D002:ADA1:8573:E170:9858:6076 (talk) 06:40, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  A lot of crap writing 

message: most recent revisions need reversing, especially the opening "raging devotee to the love that dare not speak it's name " 2001:9E8:31CF:4000:15BC:BDE5:D3E6:1ACC (talk) 22:41, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for noticing this vandalism, I have reverted it. DuncanHill (talk) 22:53, 14 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homophobic revisions