Talk:Good Night, and Good Luck

message: The IMDB site says the tagline is "In a nation terrorized by its own government, one man dared to tell the truth", however the movie cover on Yahoo! Movies says "we will not walk in fear of one another". --Revolución (talk) 00:22, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Tagline

message: IMDB spells the title Good Night, and Good Luck. Maybe this article should be moved there until the USA release, when we will all be wiser about the punctuation, if any. What you think, Rev?-Ajshm 21:59, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. --Revolución (talk) 22:57, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Good Night, and Good Luck is the form of spelling used on the film's British Board of Film Classification certificate. Lee M 02:52, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: title

message: I am not a great fan of Joe Macarthy, but what about the Venona files?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.41.212.34 (talk) 20:04, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's true, fan is obviously the wrong word, you are to McCarthy, what what trekkies are to william shatner--172.143.240.29 22:08, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

text: What about the VENONA files? According to the Wiki on Senator McCarthy, the VENONA files identify five people who were also accused by McCarthy. However, McCarthy accused them of being communists, which was not (and still is not) a crime under US law, whereas the VENONA files identified them as Soviet spies, which is of course illegal. Therefore, the VENONA files do nothing to bolster McCarthy's image as an exposer of criminals because he was never actually attempting to do such a thing. -- Hux 18:55, 3 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I also fail to see what bringing up Venona has to do with so much as the price of tea in China vis a vis a discussion of the film "Good Night and Good Luck."  I mean, is user 12.10... saying that Murrow was "exposed" in Venona as a "commie sympathizer?" Or that all and any critics of McCarthy turned out to be bad people or "commie dupes" due to what was revealed in Venona?  Quite frankly, if anything, Venona revealed what a scattershot and mostly inaccurate aim McCarthy had at his targets.  Unfortunately, rather than a historical trasure trove of information and intel, I often get the impression that McCarthy proponents feel that Venona is some sort of miracle stain remover akin to a new laundry detergent, that the mere mention of it makes the man and his methods as spotless as 1951 all over again, and is supposed to make people alleged to have opposing viewpoints just shut up, and often gets applied to a wide variety of right/left topics, whether it is germane or not. --170.135.241.45 00:26, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

text: what about the Venona files?  VENONA was highly unlikely to have been known to Murrow at that point.  Even today (2014) it is not know if President Truman knew of preliminary, fragmentary findings from VENONA.  The story I know is that Hoover sent a report to Truman's chief of staff <name forgotten> & it is not known if the report was shown to Truman.  For certain it is known that Truman was NOT a Hoover fan.  DEddy (talk) 14:37, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Venona 

message: It seemed to me that the main charachter smoked in every scene in which he appeared. Thats crazy!—Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.31.159.168 (talk) 23:14, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Smoking 

message: I'm slightly disgusted that criticism of this film is ended with a quote from a Slate columnist.  Things like this shouldn't appear as criticism to a film, especially if there arn't any references to actual film critics (eg. Who's looking at Slate for objectionable thought?! Where's Ebert?!).—Preceding unsigned comment added by LorenzoRims (talk • contribs) 07:54, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I added a relevant Ebert quote for balance. Fox News would be proud (*cough* joke *cough*). -- Hux 19:06, 3 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  They shall always follow their corrupt 

message: How did they achieve the scene in which the characters are in an elevator that stops on different floors? Did they:
#Film the scene in an actual elevator?
#Use bluescreen to drop in different backgrounds every time the door opened?
#Move the scenery while the doors were closed?
#Something else I haven't thought of?
On an unrelated note, the London cinema where I saw the film presented it in a badly scratched and wobbly print with horrible optical sound. I'll be sure to buy the DVD on the theory that it can't possibly be as bad as the theatrical print. Lee M 03:00, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia question (answer required) 

message: I've added a link to the synopsis for this movie at moviecheat.com. This is my site, it's pure content; I've checked the rules and it shouldn't be a problem to add this link as long as it's relevant and informative. I think our Good Night, and Good Luck synopsis is absolutely of interest to anyone who wants a more detailed look at this movie. But if anyone truly has a problem, feel free to revert.—Preceding undated comment added by Rasi2290 (talk • contribs) 16:29, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  external links 

message: Dear Friends,
Earlier today I added this link to this article: Clooneyism: History Hollywood-style.  I was unaware of the proper protocol.  I am no spammer.  I am a fan of film and a history teacher at a community college.  I apologize for my presumptuousness.  I would like to respectfully request that you add my review and commentary to the external links portion of the article.  I would humbly argue that my piece offers something unique to the discussion.  Thank you for your consideration.
My email address: acruseturner@mclennan.edu
PS  Now that I understand the procedure for adding external links, I will definitely go through proper channels from now on.  Once again, I apologize.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.18.108.130 (talk) 04:00, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi there -- first of all, welcome to Wikipedia!  Secondly, although your post is well-written and interesting, I'm not sure what it offers that isn't in other reviews and the Slate article.  What would you say is your review's unique contribution? Greyfedora 15:31, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Request to add my review

message: Screen test are not public. There's never "authoritative reports" about them. George Clooney did attend them, since he directed and produced it. And he knows for sure what reactions he got during those tests. Asking for more evidences here seem quite weird because of the nature of those events. No studio has ever published their results. And those of GNGL made no exception. So the only facts we'll got there are the quotes of those who attended and reported them . George Clooney was definitely one of them. So it was not a rumor but a fact.Annegc1 21:45, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, while you might be right, the way it is written is original research, as it tries to lead the reader into disbelieving what Clooney sayd, on the basis that it was "just a rumour". While it might be, you cant write it down in such way here in wikipedia, UNLESS, there are articles and reviewers that have come up with the topic stating that its rumour, demanding proof and evidence of it. As of right now that section, for the way it is written, lacks of any source that confirms that such piece is worthy enough of being written that way, to say it in another way, you are pretty much writting a rumour about a supposed rumour, and as such, its not only poorly written, but also unencyclopedic and in violation of the rules of Wikipedia. Either you get some sources or the section has to be re-written or deleted.190.161.198.196 16:49, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see where the current article text "tries to lead the reader into disbelieving what Clooney said", or where there's any original research, or where there's any statement that isn't sourced, or where it's poorly written or unencyclopedic or in violation of the rules of Wikipedia. RedSpruce 17:10, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The "overacting" rumor 

message: There's been a debate among typesetting buffs as to whether Helvetica (a typeface not created until after 1957 and first seen in America in the early 1960's) or Akzidenz-Grotesk (a.k.a. Standard Light, which was indeed in existence at the time of the McCarthy broadcasts) was used in the picture for the scenes in the CBS News offices.  I checked old kinescope clips and other contemporary photos from the 1950's and found that, in fact, no light-weight sans serif font was used in their offices or studios, contrary to what was seen in the film.  Instead, a typeface called Dom Grotesk No. 9 - an extra-bold, extended sans serif font - as offered by a now-defunct typesetting firm in New York called Photo-Lettering, Inc., was used for "CBS News" on their walls.  (The "O" from this font was used for part of the 1950's "walking eye" logo used by Columbia Records.)  So on that basis alone, Clooney and the producers took license with typesetting.  If they'd used Venus Extra Bold Extended, on the other hand, they would've been closer . . .  –Wbwn 07:27, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "CBS News" font 

message: :I have removed the reference to whether or not the test audience incident happened or not because mainly I find it to be an irrelevant piece of trivia for this article.
:Also the story is true. It's remarkable to me that DCGeist has literally created a controversy out of thin air. Here is the full text of the Clooney interview that was cited in the article:
I read that when test audiences saw footage of McCarthy, they thought he was some bad ham actor.
[Laughs] That happened a lot. It’s interesting how nobody—I think not even 50% of the [test] audience—had even heard of Murrow. Most of the audience had heard of McCarthyism, but about 30% didn’t know who Joe McCarthy was. A lot of people asked us who that actor was, and said, you know, he was a little too much. [Anne laughs] That’s why I said we want to take out a “For Your Consideration” ad for him [seeking acting award nominations] in the trade papers. 
:Gee, sounds like an admission to me. Somebody, obviously being clever, chose to only quote the first part of the paragraph and forget what came after.
:As I said I consider this matter a bit of unimportant trivia, but I hope this settles this issue once and for all. annoynmous 18:53, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Overacting Rumor 2

message: Is there a reason why information from the DVD, release dates, etc are not listed  on this page?  I don't usually edit movie pages, but the special features of this movie interviews some of the real people portrayed in the film and I think that would be an interesting graph to add.--I'm Nonpartisan (talk) 03:57, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  DVD Release 

message: I removed the following sentence because it did not seem noteworthy, and the reference link was dead: "Production designer James Bissell used the 3D computer graphics software program SketchUp to model the entire studio set including all sets and camera angles."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dzhim (talk • contribs) 06:04, 7 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  SketchUp 

message: In the plot, it says that Murrow defends Radulovich.  It then says that as a response, McCarthy attacks Murrow as being a red sympathizer. In the movie, Murrow purposely attacks McCarthy before McCarthy can strike first.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.226.166.185 (talk) 23:13, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, Murrow is smeared before the attack happens.  --79.223.17.37 (talk) 13:28, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot a bit confusing

message: someone should also add a section on the historical accuracy of the film  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.226.167.245 (talk) 02:17, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Historical Accuracy

message: I'm changing the title w/in the article to remove the full stop, to accord with the article title and with WP:MOSTM. Should anyone have qualms about this, I'd like to point out that Slate, Ebert, the Telegraph, Rotten Tomatoes, and even the official Warner Bros website all omit the period when using the title on its own, in text, or both. It is merely a stylistic device used in the poster. Moreover, even if the final period were part of the "official" title, WP:MOSTM explicitly says that such styles should be avoided in articles. --76.121.3.11 (talk) 20:19, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  period / full stop in article 

message: Took me a while but I found one source with the box office result for this movie. $39 million, adjusted to 2012 dollars. That's about $32.9 million back in 2005. How much did it cost to make this movie? Bizzybody (talk) 04:22, 17 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production cost and box office take? 

message: ===Opening credits===
Warner Independent PicturesA TimeWarner Company
2929 EntertainmentA Wagner/Cuban Company
Participant Productions
Warner Independent Pictures
2929 Entertainment and Participant Productionspresent
In association withDavis FilmsRedbus PicturesTohokushinsha
A Section Eight Production
Good Night, And Good Luck.
===Cast in closing credits===
STARRINGDavid Strathairn
Patricia ClarksonGeorge ClooneyJeff DanielsRobert Downey, Jr.Frank LangellaRay Wise
Robert John BurkeReed DiamondTate DonovanGrant HeslovTom McCarthyMatt Ross
Rose AbdooAlex BorsteinPeter JacobsonRobert Knepper        andDianne Reeves
        CAST(In order of appearance)
Sig Mickelson         Jeff Daniels
Edward R. Murrow         David Strathairn
Natalie         Alex Borstein
Millie Lerner         Rose Abdoo
Jazz Singer         Dianne Reeves
Pianist         Peter Martin
Bassist         Christoph Luty
Drummer         Jeff Hamilton
Saxophonist         Matt Catingub
Jesse Zousmer         Tate Donovan
John Aaron         Reed Diamond
Eddie Scott         Matt Ross
Shirley Wershba         Patricia Clarkson
Joe Wershba         Robert Downey, Jr.
Fred Friendly         George Clooney
Palmer Williams         Tom McCarthy
Colonel Anderson         Glenn Morshower
Colonel Jenkins         Don Creech
Don Hewitt         Grant Heslov
Charlie Mack         Robert John Burke
Don Hollenbeck         Ray Wise
Don Surine         Robert Knepper
Mary         Helen Slayton-Hughes
William Paley         Frank Langella
CBS Page         Simon Helberg
Stage Manager         JD Cullum
Jimmy         Peter Jacobson
CBS Lawyer #1         John Kepley
CBS Lawyer #2         David Paul Christian
Make-Up Girl         Joyce Lasley
 —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 19:36, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: For the record: on-screen credits for ''Good Night, and Good Luck.''

message: STARRINGDavid Strathairn
Patricia ClarksonGeorge ClooneyJeff DanielsRobert Downey, Jr.Frank LangellaRay Wise
Robert John BurkeReed DiamondTate DonovanGrant HeslovTom McCarthyMatt Ross
Rose AbdooAlex BorsteinPeter JacobsonRobert Knepper        andDianne Reeves
        CAST(In order of appearance)
Sig Mickelson         Jeff Daniels
Edward R. Murrow         David Strathairn
Natalie         Alex Borstein
Millie Lerner         Rose Abdoo
Jazz Singer         Dianne Reeves
Pianist         Peter Martin
Bassist         Christoph Luty
Drummer         Jeff Hamilton
Saxophonist         Matt Catingub
Jesse Zousmer         Tate Donovan
John Aaron         Reed Diamond
Eddie Scott         Matt Ross
Shirley Wershba         Patricia Clarkson
Joe Wershba         Robert Downey, Jr.
Fred Friendly         George Clooney
Palmer Williams         Tom McCarthy
Colonel Anderson         Glenn Morshower
Colonel Jenkins         Don Creech
Don Hewitt         Grant Heslov
Charlie Mack         Robert John Burke
Don Hollenbeck         Ray Wise
Don Surine         Robert Knepper
Mary         Helen Slayton-Hughes
William Paley         Frank Langella
CBS Page         Simon Helberg
Stage Manager         JD Cullum
Jimmy         Peter Jacobson
CBS Lawyer #1         John Kepley
CBS Lawyer #2         David Paul Christian
Make-Up Girl         Joyce Lasley
 —Roman Spinner (talk)(contribs) 19:36, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Cast in closing credits

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