Talk:Cosmo Kramer

message: Should Seinfeld characters, who have their own category, also be put in the broader category of fictional characters? Rlquall 00:18, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope - the Seinfeld category is a child of the fictional characters category. violet/riga (t) 15:19, 9 Apr 2005 (UTC)

message: I thought Art Vandelay was assigned to Jerry Seinfield himself? As in Vandelay industry. :\
:I'm confused about the Art Vandelay thing as well, although not for the same reasons as above.  I never recall Kramer calling himself Art Vandelay or having anyone refer to him as Art Vandelay.  The only person I can recall being referred to as Art Vandelay was George.  Does someone have a clarification on what episode Kramer was referred to as Art Vandelay?  If not, I'm going to remove it from the infobox.Mck321 03:32, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Aliases

message: The (poorly titled) "Classic Kramer Moments" section is getting a bit big, surely?  It's around half of the article now.  Should it be cut down to appear less "fancrufty"? violet/riga (t) 23:06, 19 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classic Kramer Moments 

message: Somethings ****ed up on the link in the article...I can't get rid of the "(character)". Revolver 09:09, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Jerry Seinfeld (character)|Jerry Seinfeld]] link 

message: I am removing the exclamation point in : "" as he explains to Jerry, "If you called them more often, I wouldn't have to!" ""    If you have watched this episode then you would say that he does not say this in an exclamatory fashion but in a reproval tone, so no exclamation point. (Ironic it is though that I do this correction given the significance of exclamation points in the context of 2 or 3 Seinfeld episodes :D) --Mmgfish (talk) 01:27, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kramer Quotes 

message: Lack of refrences mainly especially for a character article as this reads more of a fan-guide than a GA, and I also feel that the aricle needs to talk about the characters role in pop culture today. Thanks Jaranda wat's sup 03:51, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Failed GA 

message: This is a horribly distracting animation, so I have removed it from the page.  The fact that it rewinds (rather than cuts back) makes it worse, but even without that I don't think it is a good idea to include it.  violet/riga (t) 12:30, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kramer entrance animation 

message: What is up with the Kkkramer thing? did I miss something or is this a poor attempt on a joke of the recent incident?
:He was using racial slurs and verbally attacked an audience member during one of his standup comedy routines. 70.118.94.223 19:46, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you see vandalism, please feel free to remove it. See WP:VAND and Help:Reverting. Patstuart(talk)(contribs) 03:53, 22 November 2006 (UTC)

text: "Note: The following page has been edited by some idiot who overeacted to Michael RIchards rant at a black heckler, where he only used to most obvious aspect of the hecklers to insult them with, and then later complained he was racist by calling him white boy and cracker-ass, which because they're black would not be wrong (Sarcasm by the way)"
What the hell? This is looking extremely unprofessional. Just protect the article and leave it alone, reasons and explanations belong (as far as I know) in the discussion page. --M
Under the Inventions, entrepreneurship, and lawsuits section someone has added:
"It is also known that Kramer has racially slurred a negro man while doing a stand up comedy. As a result almost everyone left his show.(See link for a shocking video)."
I'm pretty sure that that was Michael Richards the actor/comedian not Cosmo Kramer the character. And as the Michael Richards page already has an entire section devoted to the incident, I don't think it should be included here.  When someone with edit rights can get around to it, this is another one that should be removed.Tovias 20:54, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kkkramer? 

message: yi:קאסמא קרעמער
to yiddish wikipedia. thanks--71.247.90.72 19:52, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. —B33R Talk • Contribs  21:07, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  please somebody add yi interwiki 

message: I was always under the impression his name was Kosmo Kramer so it would be two ks. Of ccourse, I don't know.
-Barnes!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.92.24.47 (talk) 04:18, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kosmo? 

message: The article clearly claims in the summary that the character is based on Kenny Kramer, a neighbor of Larry David, but then later says that this is untrue under "the real-life kramer" section. I don't know which is true, but this is clearly a contradiction.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.68.180.209 (talk) 06:35, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article originally stated (under "the real-life Kramer" section) that the character was based on Larry David's neighbor; these statements were simply negated by 64.233.195.81's 5:40, 18 December 2007 edit. I'm going to mark the section as contradictory, but I don't know which statement is correct, so hopefully someone else can correct it. Psychotic Spoon (talk) 23:21, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Yes I saw the same interviews, I have updated the article. Mike R (talk) 20:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction 

message: That incident is about whatever the date is started and has nothing to do with Cosmo Kramer. Yet some editors cannot resist the urge to put something in this page and make a major mockery of it. It's near New Year's Day and those editors should really take a break. The professional editors who keeps an eye on this should really send a message to them for blurring between Michael Richards the actor and Cosmo Kramer the character. I know I can't stop them but I know that someone will and that someone would know what to do.
To sum it up, Michael Richards and Cosmo Kramer are very contridiction to each other. You want the real story, go to the Michael Richards webpage for that incident NOT Cosmo Kramer.
Thank you. Johnnyauau2000 (talk) 13:32, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The racial attack should end now! 

message: I'm surprised there is nothing about Kramer's passion for fruit.  He always goes to Joe's for high quality fruit, and is even mentioned by Elaine when Kramer was at the Singles Auction.  He's pretty enthusiastic about fruit, and it should be mentioned with some evidence.
68.110.238.190 (talk) 00:15, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fruit 

message: I don't think it can be claimed Kramer had an extremely low tolerance for alcohol based solely on the hennigan's incident, there were many other episodes where he prominently consumes alcoholic drinks, for instance in 'The Sniffing Accountant' and in another episode sake with Japanese businessmen. At any rate, even if there has been reference to evidence of a low alcohol-tolerance, it was certainly not prominent enough to merit inclusion in this article. Kramer's relationship with alcohol was never explored in the depths of say, Elaine's or Mrs. Ross'. Perhaps his gambling addiction would be a more telling detail?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.131.48.239 (talk) 05:35, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, I hadn't noticed that point before but I would be inclined to remove it.  The article already suffers from an excess of detail, and that detail sounds like original research.  There are other episodes which negate it.  You can always be bold and remove / replace that part yourself, :-)  Maedin\talk 11:54, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Dot - low-alcohol tolerance claim; suspect 

message: We first saw Kramer/Kessler portrayed as a low-energy, bathrobe-wearing layabout, which was quite different from the animated "hipster doofus" we came to know in subsequent episodes. Since George's evolution from a Woody Allen imitation was described in his page, Kramer deserves similar details in his Characteristics or Development sections.
Theaternearyou (talk) 04:44, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portrayal Changes  

message: No mention of it...
Strange.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Capburger (talk • contribs) 00:18, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fusili Jerry in Kramer Wikipedia 

message: This (and all of these types of articles) really seem to fly in the face of what Wikipedia is and what has been long discussed and weeded out elsewhere on this site.
1) Excessively long, and virtually all original research. Pretty much nothing is cited anywhere.
2) It's largely trivia, obviously picked out by fans watching the show and turned into endless lists.
Articles on the main characters in a famous TV show seem perfectly reasonable, but do they need to be anything more than a brief overview of the character and who portrayed them? Why the lists that go on and on and on and on about superficial details that are nothing more than fictitional plot points from various episodes? As has been noted ad naseum elsewhere, this isn't IMDB, this is an encyclopedia.70.91.35.27 (talk) 19:54, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is this article sooooooo long? 

message: Where is there any evidence of this? I can't seem to find any, yet it says so in the article? -5.66.246.20 (talk) 00:43, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secular Jew? 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Not Moved  Megan☺️ Talk to the monster 13:15, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Cosmo Kramer →  – Per WP:COMMONNAME and WP:LABELFICTION. U-Mos (talk) 05:00, 13 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 13 September 2020 

message: At Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee#Season_1_(2012), ep. 10 “It’s Bubbly time, Jerry!”: Can anyone confirm whether he appears there as Michael Richards or as Kramer, please? Newman and George did appear as such in another episode of CiCgC… Tuvalkin (talk) 00:18, 15 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last appearence in 2012…? 

message: — Assignment last updated by DarthVetter (talk) 15:44, 18 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Composition I - Writing Wikipedia

message: I added a brand-new section called "Kramer's Notable Quotes".  This provides some of his lines that standout in the show and describe what kind of person he can.  Along with I added a few more physical moments in the "Physical Moments" section.  The section was a little too small, so I think of few more moments describe more of one of Kramer's best aspects.  The last thing was a few sentences to the "Personality" section.  I believe all of these edits improved the article in big way because it only describes Kramer in more detail. 412DRS (talk) 17:15, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry... no. The quote section is pure WP:FANCRUFT and doesn't belong in an encyclopedia. It's been removed. Jauerbackdude?/dude. 18:44, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kramer Article edits