Talk:Chola Empire

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Consensus to move and merge with Later Cholas. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 16:26, 25 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Medieval Cholas →  – This article talks about the CHolas at their imperial state SKAG123 (talk) 20:10, 5 August 2023 (UTC)

text: Relisting comment: Pinging  from the related June discussion at Talk:Chola dynasty#Requested move 12 June 2023 (which I closed as no consensus). SilverLocust 💬 21:10, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I support this, but would like to see some evidence that it is the usual term. If it is, some rejigging will be required to Later Cholas, which currently opens "The Later Chola dynasty ruled the Chola Empire from 1070 CE until the demise of the empire in 1279 CE". If WP's schema is Early Cholas (600 BCE–300 CE) - Chola Empire (848 CE–1070 CE) - Later Cholas (1070-1279 CE), then we should try not to refer to the realm as "Chola empire" in other periods... Furius (talk) 21:57, 12 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I would also suggest renaming “Early Cholas” to “Chola Kingdom” but that’s a different discussion  SKAG123 (talk) 04:27, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

text: Taken together, I get the impression that there could be a meaningful article under the title "Chola Empire", but that it wouldn't line up neatly with any of the currently existing articles. For now, a good solution might be to retarget the  redirect to point to Medieval Cholas instead? ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:18, 21 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @ModernDayTrilobite, Thanks for this detailed consideration. From your review of the sources, is WP correct to split Middle and Later Cholas into separate articles? Furius (talk) 17:34, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not a subject matter expert by any means, but from what I've seen, my inclination would probably be to merge Later Cholas into the Medieval Cholas/Chola Empire article. Sources that use the term "later Chola" seem to be fairly (albeit not universally) consistent in using it to refer to the period beginning with Kulottunga I's reign; however, most sources don't appear to describe the Later Chola period as separate from the Chola Empire. Because of this, my current impression is that the best solution would be to have a single "Chola Empire" article, and to redirect Later Cholas to the relevant section therein. (As part of this process, I do also find myself in support of the move proposed here.) ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 18:33, 23 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I would also support merging Medieval Cholas and Later Cholas into a master article called Chola Empire. This dynesty is continuous therefore it the same empire. Also Chola Empire is what is used in most of the sources therefore follows WP:COMMONNAME SKAG123 (talk) 04:30, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

text: That makes sense to me as a course of action. Furius (talk) 11:26, 24 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 5 August 2023 

message: The Royal House of the Medieval Cholas has been disputed in This discussion. @Pikachu 9988 has suggested that the imperial Cholas originate from the Pottappi branch. This has been challenged by other users. This has been a subject of various edit wars on related articles. Reviving this discussion for consensus. SKAG123 (talk) 19:23, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Royal House of the Medieval Cholas