Template talk:Cite video game

message: Having used this template multiple times at various articles, I was wondering if perhaps we could turn the title, developer, etc. fields all the way to language a different color or style, to differentiate between quotes and the reference. See the refs on Characters in the Halo series, for example (I don't use the quote parameter because I like the quotes before the refs, personal pref) - to try and make it more obvious where the game information started, I was using dashes. David Fuchs (talk) 22:14, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding readibility 

message: I was considering using this template for citing some of the Command & Conquer games. However, the trouble is that most of what's worth citing in those games occur during ingame cutscenes. Sometimes, different missions lead to the same cutscene (and sometimes they don't), so it's kind of ugly if you try to cite them as being part of a certain level. Also, the intro cutscenes for those games (the ones that play right after you launch the game) are typically cite-worthy, but don't have any level associated with it. I don't suppose that a "cutscene" field could be added to accomodate games like these? Or is there some better way to cite using the existing template in a manner that I'm not thinking of. -Thunderforge (talk) 02:35, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not just put the cutscene in the level/area field? Der Wohltemperierte Fuchs (talk) 02:59, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The trouble would be that for cutscenes that aren't part of a level, you'd have something like "Level/area: Intro cutscene," which just looks weird. -Thunderforge (talk) 23:49, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citing Cutscenes 

message: New code to use . Old code still in effect until citation updated to support software and video games.

<includeonly>{{
#if: {{#if: {{{developer|}}} | {{{title|}}} }}
  || Error on call to [[template:cite video game]]: Parameters title and developer must be specified
}}</includeonly>{{Citation/core
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  |Authorlink1 = {{{author-link|{{{author1-link|{{{authorlink|{{{authorlink1|}}}}}}}}}}}}
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  |Authorlink8 = {{{author8-link|{{{authorlink8|}}}}}}
  |Authorlink9 = {{{author9-link|{{{authorlink9|}}}}}}
  |Year={{{year|{{    <!-- attempt to derive year from date, if possible -->
             #if: {{{date|}}}
             |{{
                #iferror:{{#time:Y|{{{date|}}} }}
                |{{#iferror:{{#time:Y|{{{publication-date|einval}}} }}||{{#time:Y|{{{publication-date|}}} }}}}
                |{{#time:Y|{{{date|}}} }}
              }}
             |{{{publication-date|}}} <!-- last resort -->
           }}
        }}}
  |YearNote = {{{origyear|}}}
  |Date = {{#if:{{{date|}}}|{{{date}}}|{{{day|}}} {{{month|}}} {{{year|{{{publication-date|}}}}}}}}
  |Developer = {{{developer}}}
  |Title={{{title}}}
  |TransTitle={{{trans_chapter|}}}
  |TransItalic={{{trans_title|}}}
  |URL={{{url|}}}
  |Series={{{series|}}}
  |Volume = {{{volume|}}}
  |Issue = {{{issue|{{{number|}}}}}}
  |IncludedWorkTitle = {{{chapter|{{{contribution|}}}}}}
  |IncludedWorkURL = {{{chapter-url|{{{chapterurl|{{{contribution-url|}}}}}}}}}
  |Other = {{{others|}}}
  |Edition = {{{edition|}}}
  |Place = {{{place|{{{location|}}}}}}
  |Platform = {{{platform|}}}
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  |Publisher = {{{publisher|}}}
  |PublicationDate = {{{publication-date|}}}
  |language = {{{language|{{{in|}}}}}}
  |format = {{{format|}}}
  |ID={{{id|{{{ID|}}}}}}
  |AccessDate={{{access-date|{{{accessdate|}}}}}}
  |DateFormat={{{dateformat|none}}}
  |quote = {{{quote|}}}
  |laysummary = {{{laysummary|}}}
  |laydate = {{{laydate|}}}
  |Ref={{{ref|}}}
  |Sep = {{{separator|{{{seperator|.}}}}}}
  |PS = {{#if:{{{quote|}}}||{{{postscript|.}}}}}
  |amp = {{{lastauthoramp|}}}
}}

Dread Lord CyberSkull ✎☠ 10:34, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{tl|citation}} code for use in this template 

message: isbn or other retail identifier code is missing as well as trans_title.陣内Jinnai 22:28, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  core missing fields 

message: These are taken from some reliable sources for citing:
*Chicago
*computer software - APA
*MLA doesn't have anything for citing software, let alone video games
:The issue with the generic software one is a lot of that doesn't apply 1:1 for video games. FE: Developer and publisher are often different, the producer or lead designer matters more than a programmer, video games often span multiple discs, can vary wildly as things progress, and video games have a narrative structure similar to books/movies.陣内Jinnai 19:45, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video game citation styles 

message: Is there a format to use a truncate quote from a game? I want to cite what I think is a fairly important speech from Metal Gear Rising, as it speaks to the main villains entire motivation, but its a fairy long speech that could be cut down to include the relevant parts if there is an appropriate format for that. Using "..." didn't seem appropriate as that might actually appear in the subtitles. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 07:59, 14 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: How about using "[...]"? The brackets around omitted (marked with the ellipsis), inserted or altered parts are standard in academia. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 19:42, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you :D Darkwarriorblake (talk) 19:54, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: This template’s doc specifies that the date be in YYYY-MM-DD format. Is this necessary? Does using a different (but internally consisten) format, as with other citations on a page, cause problems? —67.14.236.50 (talk) 23:03, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date format 

message: I'm copyediting Tidus (and alerting  to this thread), and IMO the bolding of character names in the "quote" parameter violates MOS:BOLD; italics are equally effective, and far less visually intrusive in a reflist. All the best, Miniapolis 15:07, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The bolding is not performed by the template, so it can be removed manually. I don't see any guidance in Wikipedia:WikiProject Video games/Article guidelines that recommends this sort of bolding, though I have seen it in other video game articles. You might ask at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games, which probably has more watchers. I found an inconclusive ten-year-old conversation in that page's archives. – Jonesey95 (talk) 15:22, 28 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intrusive bolding 

message: Does every single paragraph about a video game have to be cited? When describing a game’s gameplay, characters, levels, story, etc., do you need to cite the video game every time? Interqwark talk contribs 22:47, 16 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Ideally don't cite the video game and use independent sources. You can use cite video game to add citations to plot sections if you want to cite a character's speech; the template has "quote" parameter for this. Although, generally we don't include citations in plot sections for articles and it is not necessary since the game is the primary source and the infobox provides details about the game. --The1337gamer (talk) 09:54, 17 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: All right. Thanks. Interqwark talk contribs 06:38, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

text: It's not necessary all the time, but can be useful for certain info that's not immediately obvious to anyone who plays the game (for example, a plot point that's only stated very briefly by one character). Glades12 (talk) 18:43, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  When is it necessary to cite a video game? 

message: Seems that the italics in the title are not avoidable. This is fine in most cases but I noticed in the case of Pokémon Red and Blue, there’s no way to prevent “and” from italicizing. th1rt3en.talk.contribs 08:05, 4 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: You should not cite both, or you should cite them as two separate citations. --Izno (talk) 16:00, 4 April 2020 (UTC)

text: Echoing Izno here: two different sources (even if only slightly different) should not be cited together as one. Cite the version you have played yourself. (You could technically cite both separately if you have also played the other version, but that would only be necessary for synthesis, which is disallowed either way.) Glades12 (talk) 18:55, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forced italics on title 

message: The parameter |version= does not seem to work;  just displays as "". Can someone explain and/or fix this? Glades12 (talk) 19:00, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: My fault! When I switched to cite book we probably should have switched to using  rather than , the latter of which is unsupported in cite book. --Izno (talk) 02:10, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Is it desirable to have "(ed.)" after the version number though? Glades12 (talk) 17:14, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to decide on another parameter if it meets the intent of versioning. (which is what edition does) --Izno (talk) 18:33, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Version parameter 

message: *|year= – For cases where only the year of publication can be safely determined
*|orig-year= – For citing a version of a game that was released on one platform years after the original on another
*|trans-title= – For games with non-English titles (uncommon, but they do exist)
These are all from other CS1 templates. Glades12 (talk) 15:18, 5 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: |trans-title= was apparently previously noted as missing at #core missing fields. I would add it right now, since no one has objected after more than three weeks, but lack the coding skills to do it. Glades12 (talk) 16:43, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind; the only thing holding me back was TemplateData, which is apparently not required. Glades12 (talk) 10:15, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible additional parameters