Talk:Computational science

message: If e.g. a study in environmental science is based on computational analysis. The algorithms and methodology are explained in a scientific paper, but the algorithms (e.g. programmed in numerical or statistical software) are not required to be shared. Open computational science use publishes the source code for the analysis with in turn can be execute in an Open Source statistics software like R or in Octave. Open computational science contributes to Reproducible Science and Research and refers to the openness and reproducibilty of computational analysis in a scientific approach. The computational science part in the "Open Computational Science" refers to the application of methods of computational science. Environmental scientist do not contribute to a computer science discipline. The computational approach of data analysis is open and reproducible e.g. with Open Source code and Open Data. This could be distinguished from the computer science research. --Bert Niehaus (talk) 08:56, 23 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Open Computational Science 

message: I switched the redirects. It seems to me that the name Computational Science is winning (e.g., http://www.siam.org/students/resources/report.php). JJL 23:54, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Computational Science/Scientific Computing 

message: The page should not have advertising links. JJL removed one, rightly. I removed two more but JJL put them back. It is not acceptable to have links to specific colleges running computation courses. There are hundreds of such courses - why should two be singled out for free advertising on wikipedia?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.243.220.41 (talk) 16:31, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think this is advertising in this case. Both links have extensive materials on computational science education, which is why I included them. (I'm not associated with either in any way.) Take a look at the links and let me know what you think. JJL (talk) 17:48, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the bigger problem is the actual advertising. Currently there are links to websites that are nothing but fake reviews and links to commercial software.  I am going to delete them as they are not real computational science resources but nothing more than ad sites. As for college courses linked, if they are reasonable, why not?  I doubt that anyone will assume that links from WP are an official endorsement! 128.200.46.67 (talk) 00:42, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Advertising links

message: Computational science is a huge subject, and such a small article hardly does it any justice. Those who read this article would likely be left scratching their heads wondering exactly what the field really is. I suggest adding some real world examples of what is done. For example, some pictures/animations etc.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.168.173.97 (talk) 17:59, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Higher quality article needed. 

message: I consider the SIAM reports fairly definitive; e.g. : "CSE is a broad multidisciplinary area that encompasses applications in         science/engineering, applied mathematics, numerical analysis, and computer         science. Computer models and computer simulations have become an important         part of the research repertoire, supplementing (and in some cases replacing)         experimentation. Going from application area to computational results         requires domain expertise, mathematical modeling, numerical analysis,         algorithm development, software implementation, program execution, analysis,         validation and visualization of results. CSE involves all of this." Is the definition in the article a reasonable summary of this? JJL (talk) 18:37, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I found http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=170795  (pdf): "An inter-disciplinary approach to doing science on computers." As an ACM conference publication it is peer-reviewed.  Not sure if the SIAM page was peer-reviewed.  pgr94 (talk) 19:15, 21 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition--Sources 

message: Hi. The current state of the article narrows down computational science to the evaluation of mathematical models via computer simulation. You can do scientific research through agent-based models which are computational models but not necessarily mathematical one. It's not fair to ignore this type of modelling so wide-spread thorough scientific disciplines e.g. individual-based modelling in ecology, agent-based modelling in social sciences.
I would suggest replacing the mathematical model bias of the current state of the page with a more balanced one. Let me know what you think?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tg1w (talk • contribs) 09:23, 9 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Something else to note too. Marking this. Ema--or (talk) 21:57, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The role of ai isn't not pertinent; complicates this significantly. Ema--or (talk) 09:02, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only mathematical models? 

message: Hello, I'm writing concerning the sources on my claim that computational science is part of theoretical computer science which is in turn a branch of computer science. For me as a professional on the topic it is common sense but it will be difficult to prove my claim since there are no fixed definition for those things are are often a matter of personal opinion. However it would also be impossible to prove the opposite which was also unsourced in the article prior to my edits. Off the top of my head, a source for my claim would be this  published work in which the Computational science topic is clearly sub-categorized under theoretical computer science and in turn under computer science. 
In some universities computational science is offered as a different course from theoretical computer science in the same way that applied mathematics is a separate course from discrete or theoretical mathematics. This doesn't mean however that they don't belong both in the wider branches of computer science and mathematics, respectively. To summarize my point: Computer science is a very wide scientific field and it's not about technical tasks such as fixing computers and making software as most people think. Computational science is a theoretical branch of this field. Raikkonen (talk) 15:24, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not convinced that the claim is common sense even in the field of theoretical computer science. I'd say common sense is that computational science is an applied field concerned with solving mathematical problems in science and engineering with the aid of computers, and that it is more appropriately classified as a subfield of computational mathematics (which in turn can be seen as a field of applied mathematics and computer science). This view is supported by for instance this reference  on p. xi. If it should be regarded as a subfield of theoretical computer science instead, then it should at least be mentioned in that article, and the whole category tree needs to be changed for consistency. Isheden (talk) 15:47, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

text: After cross-checking the articles computer science and computational mathematics, it seems those articles support this view. Isheden (talk) 15:58, 5 March 2012 (UTC)

text: Interesting. I'd think computational science is part of applied, rather than pure or theoretical, computing. So maybe I agree Isheden. Ema--or (talk) 21:24, 7 August 2023 (UTC)

text: Sorry there, I missed this. Ema--or (talk) 21:25, 7 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Computational science <- Theoretical computer science <- computer science 

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