Talk:Gangster

message: I've listed this page for cleanup again as of today, partly because 'gangsta' redirects here and I feel we need to describe that subculture a little more or (what is probably wiser) link to another page doing so. Thomas Ash 17:03, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I've done a complete copyedit-cum-rewrite. I certainly wouldn't claim this is a great article in its current form, but its at least passable. So I've removed to cleanup tag. But since my 'gangsta' point still stands (and I lack the knowledge to correct it) I've added a sectstub tag there. Hope this helps, Thomas Ash 14:53, 2 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I have reflagged this page for cleanup. It comes across as horribly facile and lacks any sort of encyclopaedic authority and gravitas. I will give it some attention myself also. Sjc 04:17, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: Isn't this entire article kind of POV and subjective?  I mean, by some of these definitions, a lot of politicians or businessmen could be considered gangsters, and a lot of gangsters would be considered businessmen or politicians.  There are like 100 articles on Mafia, Mom, Ngrand whatever, Yakuza, Russian and Mexican Mafia, etc. so do we really need something on gangsters too?  Too generic and POV, I think.  Flannel 00:19, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV?

message: The change by User:206.174.28.248 on 25 June 2006 removed a lot of text about the slang term gansta, and especially the use of the letter "G" in colliquial reference.  Originally I had merged that text as it had originally been added to the letter G article.  I have no problem with this removal, but if there is no longer any verifyable discussion of the use of the letter "G", I am going to remove the disambiguation link on the G article which points here.   If this use is later added back with verifiable sources to this article, then someone may want to again re-add the link on the letter G article. -- Dmeranda 18:44, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On the letter G article, the slang reference for "G" is now primarily linked to gansta rap (under music) rather than to this article.--Dmeranda 18:39, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "G" as a slang reference for gansta 

message: Upon reading this article, I noticed some person added info about them being a "gangsta", as well as their friends... i've taken the liberty of removing this.
--ScottRocks 01:17, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some Things Removed... 

message: Seems like this is more something for Wiktionary. It would make more sense just to have this redirect to mafia or leave it as a disambiguation page. --85.210.33.72 16:08, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Why not just delete this article?

message: Instead of this lame emulation of the ancient gangster appearance which would rather belong on hotchickswithdouchebags.com provided these three gentlemen were found in company of a cutie, could we replace this lame picture with either an actual photograph of one of these famous gangsters or at least a still from a gangster movie depicting accurately enough what this article is painfully trying to describe? --88.166.144.55 11:37, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with the anon user and I have thus removed the image in question. I assume it was put there in good faith, but it adds nothing to the article and actually could be interpreted as a bit of a joke. If this article (which I'm not even sure we need to have) is going to include an image, it should be some sort of visual representation of an actual gangster or gangsters, not a random photo of a few fellows in suits affecting a (vaguely) gangsterish pose. Although there is probably something much better, this fair use photo of Al Capone (used in the Wiki article on him) would do nicely for this article, though again I'm sure there's a number of other options.--Bigtimepeace | talk |  contribs 07:25, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lame picture 

message: This article previously contained only about 2 sentences so expanded on the article. This provides a good start for the final complete version of "gangster". I will go through tomorrow and add pictures.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by UTlonghorn8988 (talk • contribs) 02:51, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Text added 

message: I created this stub article from a redirect to Organized crime on the principle of least astonishment because that article never even mentioned the term. Ultimately, it might be better to transfer this article's contents into the other article and into Wiktionary (which currently does not have an entry for "mobster"), but I was in a hurry to do a lot of cleanup work, and felt that this was a reasonble start. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 09:53, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Talk Page from Mobster REDIRECT

message: I took your suggestions and revisions to the article and expanded on them. I am the original creator of this article and am open to suggestions on how to better improve it. I will take your input to revise the article, just please don't delete this article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by UTlonghorn8988 (talk • contribs) 00:55, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits from Revisions 

message: accidentaly did a incorrect spelling edit. please fix. i missplelled Sopranos in the first paragraph.--Cubby300 (talk) 17:21, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  whoops 

message: Gangsters can include gangs from other countries. This article highlights only the white gangsters in America's history. There are other foreign gangs such as the 14K in Macau, the Hong Xing in Hong Kong, the Axe Gang in Shanghai and so on. Minority gangsters in America are also left out, such as the Crips and Bloods. I suggest creating a page that summarizes what gangsters do in general and adding links to articles that deal specifically in certain gangs. 
Yeokaiwei (talk) 20:49, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gangsters other than American mobsters 

message: Please add links to John Dillinger and Bonnie and Clyde (film)
212.216.211.182 (talk) 17:07, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: i dont think picking out those two for separate mention in the article is justified. Monkeymanman (talk) 20:57, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 212.216.211.182, 15 July 2011    Please add links to John Dillinger and Bonnie and Clyde (film) 

message: The section provides very little info on the topic, except a short description of "gangsta" attire, the contents of which seem very questionable as almost all the items are typical urban fashion such as "flat brimmed hats". That correlation seems almost prejudiced.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.251.231.70 (talk) 06:50, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Gangstas" section questionable 

message: A " Gangster " is Lettycia Diaz
68.14.134.232 (talk) 17:18, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. Jnorton7558 (talk) 01:19, 23 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 68.14.134.232, 22 July 2011 

message: According to EOS magazine juli/august 2011, the first gangs were Jewish (1920-1940). Jewish Gangsters of Modern Literature by Rachel Rubin] However, they did not appear as such in movies due to the fact that allot of Jewish owners of moviecompanies were against showing Jews in movies as gangsters. So, Italians and Irish were depicted as gangsters as these were also on the rise in that period. However, the whole concept of specific ethnic groups as being the main sources of organised crime seems flawed, and there is a tendency of US Americans to attribuate all wrongs to non-nationals (alien conspiracy theory). This vision has been put forward by Robert K. Merton and his strain-theory.
Jewish organised crime was romanticised by Russian writers (--> Benja Krik by Isaac Babel), Haunch, Paunch and Jowl by Samuel Ornitz, Jews without Money by Michael Gold. 
91.182.69.10 (talk) 14:05, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That's silly, gangs are far older than that. Didn't you see Gangs of New York? Gangs are hundreds or thousands of years old. 72.228.189.184 (talk) 04:12, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: First gangs

message: "Gangster" is a term commonly used politically to refer to any a participant in a conspiracy against the public interest, not just the standard criminal orgs, for example as recently used by Wang Lijun in referring to Bo Xilai. Deserves a place. 72.228.189.184 (talk) 04:10, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fails to note political sense 

message: Drug dealers are not gangsters, whoever wrote this must be mentally ill, and if you think Pablo Escobar is a gangster you are retarded. --187.194.184.244
No idea how much can be done with this, but I thought it might be right to put it here. Cathfolant (talk) 22:09, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment removed from article 

message: I think this page is equally as problematic as terrorist. Does the legal definition of a gangster vary by country or does it universally meana group of more than three people who dress similarly and commit a crime? That would make many war criminals gangsters as well because soldiers dress the same, is the Spanish inquisition a gang? CensoredScribe (talk) 15:26, 1 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of gangster? 

message: Which gangster(s) fought on the side of the Allies in WWII? 130.105.213.232 (talk) 09:48, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  War hero = gangster?