Talk:List of people with hepatitis C

message: You are missing Christopher Kennedy Lawford who speaks publicly and openly about having Hepatitis C, treating it, and *clearing* it.  I don't know anyone that uses the word *cure* quite yet.   The disease is still very *new* and sometimes the virus comes back. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PeachStatePam (talk • contribs) 2007-02-23
:Thanks for that. I've added it. Colin°Talk 09:44, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but I've removed Lawford because its current source isn't reliable, and I wasn't able to find anything. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 05:34, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Christopher Lawford

message: I've removed Hagman from the list because although I found lots of reliable articles about his liver transplant, the only solid references I've found re: his HVC status are in articles about Stephen Tyler, where they say something like, "Tyler has joined celebrities like Pamela Anderson, Naomi Judd, and Larry Hagman..."  There are also articles about how celebrities like Hagman "buy" their liver transplants, but nothing about why he had to have one (other than his alcoholism).  If anyone else can find something out there about it, please add it back in. Figureskatingfan 04:48, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Larry Hagman 

message: In spite of my "problems" with the KC article, as previously stated, I think that it should be at least mentioned here.  Therefore, I added a new section, "See Also," and I cited it, along with the needed disclaimer.  While I was at it, I divided the article up so that it's easier to read.  Maybe, when &/or if the list grows (hopefully not, since it means more people becoming ill), we can divide the list into sections (i.e., A-C, etc). --Figureskatingfan 05:05, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reformatted those changes a little in keeping with the Manual of Style. WP articles don't have Introductions. The See also section is for internal links. I've rephrased the external link to avoid self refs. I agree sections will be necessary if/when the list grows. There are several Featured lists that serve as examples, of which List of polio survivors is the most recently promoted. Most have chosen to group by notable occupation rather than alphabetically. BTW, the reason this list is short isn't because not many people have Hep C. Colin°Talk 06:26, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kansas City article 

message: Can I suggest actor Ken Watanabe (Batman Begins, Memoirs of a Geisha) and MC5 bassist Michael Davis?
Watanabe discusses living with hepatitis C in his book "Who Am I" http://hogacentral.blogs.com/hoganews/2006/05/ken_watanabe_fi.html
Davis keeps a blog discussing his treatment here http://svengirly.blogspot.com/2005_06_19_archive.html
I would add them myself but don't trust myself not too stuff up the table formatting!
RDR17 05:37, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see why not, but I'm afraid the sources you name aren't reliable.  I'll go do a couple of Google searches! --Figureskatingfan 15:51, 3 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I was able to find a source for Watanabe, so I went ahead and added him to the list.  Sorry, nothing for Davis, though. --Figureskatingfan 16:26, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for adding Ken Watanabe. On the official Davis/Kramer/Thompson (the reunited MC5) website, there's a press release detailing involvement in a hepatitis C telethon, which makes mention of Davis and living with hepatitis C. Its available here http://www.davis-kramer-thompson.com/index.cfm?pg=press. Hope that helps, cheers RDR17 23:09, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two possible additions 

message: Natalie Cole released a statement saying that she now has Hep C, possibly due to her past drug abuse.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080716/people_nm/nataliecole_dc_2
http://www.usatoday.com/life/people/2008-07-16-natalie-cole_N.htm?csp=34
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25702356/--76.174.157.184 (talk) 01:00, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I've added her to the list.  Man, it was not fun. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 03:48, 17 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Natalie Cole 

message: Tonight I have restructured this article.  Like similar lists (List of poliomyelitis survivors and List of HIV-positive people, both of which are FLs), I've divided the list into categories.  I've also tried to move the images to their correct categories, but it obviously needs more attention on its layout.  It's late, so I'll take care of it at another time.  
I think that this article has the potential to become a featured list.  It still needs some work, of course.  The entries could use a peer review and copyedit.  The lead also needs to be expanded.  Once these tasks are accomplished, I'm going to throw it into the FL process and see what folks say about its length.  It may need to be longer before it can become an FL, but I'd like to get additional feedback about it. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 06:05, 1 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, so I deleted several images, as per the recommendations in this discussion .  The main reason it was done on List of poliomyelitis survivors was to decrease the page's loading time; I think it's a good recommendation to follow here, even if this article is shorter.  It could become an issue as the list grows, I'm sure.  At this point, it also solves the above-mentioned problem. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 04:52, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-structuring 

message: I thought I'd create a list of all names that were rejected for this list, so that they'd all be in the same place.  These names have been suggested, but weren't added due to a lack of reliable sources.  They should be added as sources are discovered.
Rio Reiser 
Luis Ocaña 
Egon von Fürstenberg
Herbert de Souza
Mike Tetrault
Neil Hawke
Gary S. Paxton
Kenneth Zebrowski
Ray Charles
Michael Davis
Peter Coyote
Stanley Farfara
Rocco Prestia
Keray Regan
Timothea Beckerman
Larry Hagman
Michael Davis
Jonathan Gems
Tommy Lee
--Figureskatingfan (talk) 15:36, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Possible" names (or rejects) 

message: I've been thinking about expanding the lead, and looking at the other FLs previously mentioned, and considering what image to use.  The other FLs use images of people (Itzhak Perlman, Ryan White), but due to the stigma attached to hep C, I'm not so sure that's a good idea.  If we were to use a fair use image of someone with hep C, I think the most respectful thing to do is to use someone who's active in hep C advocacy, like Naomi Judd or David Marks.  The problem with that, however, is that there are simply no fair use images of them or of anyone else who advocates for hep C.  Perhaps the solution, then, is to include an image of something else.  Before that decision is made, however, the lead should be expanded first.  If someone else has an idea, please share. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 05:48, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead image 

message: So I have completed the re-write of the new lead.  It basically says what the old lead did, but has been expanded.  I have also included an image of the human liver, as per the above discussion.  Feedback is welcomed. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 07:05, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New lead 

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replies: text: I've removed it. Colin°Talk 10:27, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Freddy44.jpg

message: *Katharine Hepburn - Developed an "eye infection" after (deliberately) falling into a (sewage) canal while shooting Summertime in 1953. Some reports indicate that it troubled her for "months", but in a Dick Cavett interview in 1973, she said "I've had the eye infection ever since." At least one research study reports that "[d]ry eye syndrome represents the most common ocular symptom of hepatitis C virus infection." —Danorton (talk) 03:34, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible additions (2008) 

message: I realize that this has nothing to do with the editing process of this list, but since it directly addresses some of the concerns addressed during the FLC process, I thought I'd include it here.  For example, one concern was that this list wasn't notable enough.  The argument against that (made by me) was that since hep C is a relatively "new" disease and since there's a strong stigma attached to the disease, the list is never going to be comprehensive.  This also explains its length and lack of depth.  Those of us who have worked on this list have always maintained that the potential societal benefit of this list (i.e., getting the word out about the importance of testing) makes it notable.  
I recently received an e-mail from my pal and fellow editor, PeachStatePam, who informed me of the good that's already been done by this list.  Here's what she reported:
I also wanted to share that I have a friend in Vancouver who is working tirelessly trying to get a Hep C concert planned for next year - much like a Farm Aid, etc.  She owned the biggest nightclub in Vancouver for over 20 years and has all kinds of musical contacts.  She was talking to a promoter and trying to "convince" him what an epidemic this was and how many celebs have it and so she told him to google the Wikipedia page.  He was flabbergasted at the amount of names there!!  Thanks again for all your help with that page!  It has come in very handy on MANY occasions.
So if this concert/fundraiser becomes a reality, and there are some news reports written about it, it'll be reported on here, since this list (and its featured status) will be directly responsible for it.  I also believe that this could be Signpost-worthy.  For all the talk of the positive influence Wikipedia has on the world, especially during the current fundraising drive of this project, this is a specific case of a list doing some good.  As a tireless editor of this list, it makes me very proud to be part of the WP community. --Figureskatingfan (talk) 17:48, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influence 

message: * Danny Galindo, member of 13th Floor Elevators.  Died of complications of hepatitis C in 2001.
* Criston Barker http://www.cristonbarker.com.au/bio.htm
:Both names supplied by PeachStatePam --Figureskatingfan (talk) 04:55, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Added by Mr. Henderson himself.  I removed it because its inclusion doesn't follow the requirements for inclusion as described on this talk page.  I was able to find a reliable source about Mr. Henderson , but neither he or his band, The Puddle, has an article.  Re-including this entry, then, would require that an article is written about Mr. Henderson, something I may do myself, depending upon real-life busyness and other WP-stuff going on. --Christine (talk) 12:42, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  2009 additions 

message: :List of people with herpes would obviously have greater value.
Let's ALL get to work!!
Calamitybrook (talk) 02:39, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, could you be using sarcasm?  At any rate, this suggestion has no place here, a list about a completely different disease. Christine (talk) 14:24, 30 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: still more possibilities

message: That half-line blurb on the Daily Mail (seriously) is not nearly enough sourcing for inclusion in a list like this. Best to find a more reliable source with some more solid information. §FreeRangeFrogcroak 00:50, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ken Watanabe 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This list has some personal meaning to me.  I happened upon it early in my editing career, after doing some research for a client.  It was my first FL.  It hasn't always been a pleasant list to maintain, mostly because at first, we had to make so many new entries as people either were diagnosed with hep C or when they died.  Maintaining it in more recent years has been easy because of the great strides in treating the disease.  I'm sure that more people are being diagnosed these days, but it isn't as newsworthy as it used to be because of the advances we've made in treating it.
One of the consequences of taking on this list has been the friendship I've gained with User:PeachStatePam.  She has been my personal researcher; she'd find sources, and I'd add them.  As a hep C advocate, she understood the importance of this list, especially in the beginning.  We made a great team, with her connections to the hep C community and my editing skills.  I'm proud to be her acquaintance, but even more proud to consider her my friend.
I should've been the one to make the sad change about Christopher Lawford's death this week.  Pam, I'm very sorry about that.  To be honest, I didn't think about it, mostly because I wanted to reach out to you first because I knew that you and Lawford were friends.  Then I got busy, yadda yadda yadda.  But there's no excuse.  OTOH, perhaps it gave you closure.  I'm going to email you now, but I've decided to make up for it by working on Lawford's article. Christine (Figureskatingfan) (talk) 02:59, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I just found this Christine and apology not necessary.   I felt so overwhelmed by his death that I think I was reacting in "robot mode" when I came to this list and added that date.  He was such an awesome advocate for not only Hep C but also AA and NA.  He had friends everywhere because he was so down to earth, compassionate and caring.  He will be greatly missed.   RIP CKL  As you know, I hesitate to do any editing because I don't know what I am doing but adding the year seemed so simple yet so sad but it needed to be done.  Thank you again Christine for all your wonderful help over these many years in maintaining and editing this list.   So glad to have made you as a friend too and sorry we haven't been in touch in awhile.  Your email went by the wayside when I lost my XP and Outlook Express years ago and had to update to Windows 10 and Microsoft Outlook mail to get my emails.  I don't think I ever recovered from that either  :-(  Because they limited the number of addresses and files you could have (unlike Outlook Express which was unlimited) I couldn't get anything moved over.  Such is life I guess. PeachStatePam (talk) 01:05, 12 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christopher Lawford RIP