Talk:Nina Dobrev

message: Don't know why this is such an issue. She's proud to be Bulgarian, which is not only her ethnicity but also her NATIONALITY she's DUAL NATIONAL, so why erase that part of her wiki article? it's not either or, and wiki is about sharing information. Quenreerer (talk) 10:19, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Because WP:BLPLEAD is clear on the issue, and the consensus at the article is that there's no reason to deviate from it here. You also claim that it's her "nationality" but offer no proof that she still maintains Bulgarian citizenship. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:27, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Bulgaria allows dual citizenships. As you can see here https://www.lex.bg/bg/laws/ldoc/2134446592. She is a Bulgarian citizen by birth and has not renounced her citizenship. She even stated she resides for a time in the country every year. She's a dual national. Consensus was made on faulty information, therefore needs to be updated. Quenreerer (talk) 22:43, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  You're wrong, regardless, as this is not how this is handled as per WP:BLPLEAD, and you have failed to prove any of this as per WP:BURDEN, and the consensus is against you, but I'm not going to keep "re-litigating" this, so I'm going to leave it to other editors to pick this up. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:38, 26 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  "You're wrong" - yeah... great burden of proof, dude. I just provided a link where you can find Bulgarian citizenship laws, where it states a Bulgarian national is someone of Bulgarian ethnicity, born in Bulgaria. She checks both those requirement. Another thing you can learn is that Bulgaria allows dual citizenship. Meaning She didn't have to give up her Bulgarian citizenship to become a Canadian citizen. Furthermore there is no proof that she ever renounced her citizenship. At this point the burden of proof is on you to prove she's NOT a Bulgarian citizen. Quenreerer (talk) 03:04, 26 February 2020 (UTC)

text: shes born in bulgaria ... her parents both have the passport... should i ask you to prove your USA passport Fastcar4924539 (talk) 18:58, 17 April 2024 (UTC)

text: It doesn't matter if she has citizenship or not with Bulgaria. MOS:ETHNICITY says to not put places of birth in lead if it's not Kay girl 97 (talk) 19:46, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Exactly. And all her notable works were as a Canadian, so the Bulgarian is irrelevant. Which is the long-standing consensus at this article. Note to  – We've had long-standing Disruptive editing, also possibly involving Socking, at this article on this very issue, so we may need Admin support on this eventually... --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:56, 28 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Learn the difference between citizenship and ethnicity first. Nina Dobrev isn't only a Bulgarian by ethnicity, she's a citizen of Bulgaria.MOS:ETHNICITY doesn't cover citizenship, therefore can't be used as an excuse to erase her Bulgarian citizenship from lead. Quenreerer (talk) 01:42, 29 February 2020 (UTC)

text: This is quite pointless, as it's clear you are taking up the same WP:POV-pushing as the previous editor, but we've explained this to you multiple times – Dobrev is NOT NOTABLE AS A BULGARIAN. She has done no notable works as such. All of her notable works are as a Canadian (or in the U.S.). This is all directly from WP:ETHNICITY, as per above. If you keep this, and continue to ignore the clear consensus that has been established on this Talk page over years, I will report you for edit-warring, and you are very likely to be blocked. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:21, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Nina Dobrev [is a big deal in bulgaria and visits country each year.] again. you're wrong and again you're the one pushing NPOV. There's no source on the internet stating she isn't a big deal in her home country. Report yourself for incompetence while you're at it. Quenreerer (talk) 04:01, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: No one ever said she isn't a big deal in Bulgaria. That has literally nothing to do with anything. The Wikipedia guideline is clear, she achieved notability as a Canadian, not as a Bulgarian. SQGibbon (talk) 18:55, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

text: Not to mention, Dobrev's family moved to Canada to escape Communist Bulgaria and became citizens of Canada shortly after. They basically severed their Bulgarian nationalities for a while. And as mentioned above, even if she still has it or regained said nationality, she gained her notability in Canada first and was always presented as such.Kay girl 97 (talk) 03:48, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  that's you opinion. Dobrev never publicly rescinded her Bulgarian citizenship. And given Bulgarian citizenship law, as you can see in the link i posted above, the burden of proof is on proving Bodbrev not being a Bulgarian citizen, not that she is. As WP:ETHNICITY, it doesn't apply here, since that is referring to a persons ethnicity, example, we don't specify someone being a hispanic america or african america in the lead, we just write american. Same applies here, only there is an issue of dual citizenship, which apparently is not a problem on any other article, besides this as I gave the example off Sienna Miller being both British and American. Quenreerer (talk) 03:57, 29 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can we stop pretending that mentioning the fact that she's a Bulgarian Canadian is a big issue?  

message: Nina has recently stated in an interview that her birth name is actually NICOLINA and she didn't find out until she was 18 yrs old. 2604:3D09:1773:7F00:CBF5:859:E22:498B (talk) 05:39, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Cannolis (talk) 05:47, 21 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 July 2023 

message: 2600:1017:B83D:58F3:89A6:FD5:6C8B:2731 (talk) 20:59, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. M.Bitton (talk) 23:06, 2 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 2 June 2024