Talk:Cheeta

message: I believe that the part of Cheeta was played by a number of apes in the Tarzan films.  Any info?Steve-O 22:00, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Number of Cheetas

message: This article states simultaneously that Cheeta is dead and still alive. Can someone please find out? - Richardcavell 09:03, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Must be erroneous. an article by Maggie Downs in The Desert Sun newspaper for Oct. 4, 2006, has Jane Goodall meeting Cheeta the day before in Palm Springs. Cheeta is shown as still alive and well. BPK 06:02, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Today (well, a few days ago at least) Cheeta died. However the real birth date is a bit off, a chimpanzee reaching 80 years? I don't believe that claim. 188.23.92.162 (talk) 21:22, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead or alive?

message: The article states, "(Cheeta) is cited by the Guinness Book of World Records as the world's oldest primate." Yet are humans not also considered primates? What i'm asking here is wether or not Guinness is wrong, and should this be included in the article if it is indeed innacurate?
I was wondering this too.  He clearly isn't the world's oldest primate.  So who's wrong: Guiness or the article? Ezekiel. 22:49, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Oldest Primate

message: :Curiously, many in Brazil believes that Cheeta is a she, since that is a female name in Portuguese.
This originally said everyone in Brazil. I highly doubt all Brazilians think Cheeta is female. What about Brazilians who have read the wikipedia article for example? Actually there is no evidence from this article it is many either but I've just left it at that. Also would the word interestingly (or something of that sort) be a better choice? I feel that curiously suggests it's strange or unexpected but given the reason, it doesn't seem strange or unexpected. Nil Einne 13:42, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Brazil

message: What kind of chimp is Cheeta.
http://gamma.fnphoto.com/stories/2156/ <== I'd say common.
Common.  A bonobo wouldn't be able to stop masturbating long enough for filming to go on.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.252.71.224 (talk) 23:14, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Is Cheeta a common chimpanzee or a bonobo

message: This National Geographic article says Cheeta used to enjoy both beer (several per day) and cigars until the early 90's.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2003/05/0509_030509_cheeta_2.html
Probably ain't significant enough for the article, but it's hilarious.. unless you consider what the cigars must've done to his health. (My mind conjures up an image of Cheeta watching his old movies with his grandson, sharing a beer, saying (in chimp) "this here is one of the best scenes I did with Johnny" and puffing on a cigar.) Muad 10:04, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know if it is where Cheeta got the habit, but Henry Trefflich, the dealer where he came from, taught a few of his primates to smoke. I have seen pictures of them somewhere.Isaac Crumm 02:34, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bad habits

message: The article is quite clear that there is this one Cheeta born in 1932, playing (albeit in a minor role) in Tarzan the Ape Man, and still alive in Palm Springs. Yet the Palm Springs website features some really cautious phrasing, and I quote: "Our sanctuary's Cheeta is the last in a long line of Cheetas dating back to the first in 1932." Sounds a bit fishy, doesn't it? Classical geographer (talk) 15:54, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A guy named R.D. Rosen has written an article in the Washington Post on his aborted biography of Cheeta. He concluded that most of the information on the subject – probably including most of the stuff in this article – are BS. See this link . I guess the article should be rewritten. 70.108.226.219 (talk) 18:14, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The article should be rewritten to be about the chimps (plural) who played the role of Cheeta in the movies, and (separate section) about living chimps about whom the claim has been made that they are (one of) the original(s).  The Washington Post article is quite specific with facts about why the article should not be about the chimp for whom claims of an age of 70+ have been made.  -- John Broughton   (♫♫) 23:38, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I rewrote the article more or less in accord with the above suggestion, and subsequently separated it into two articles, the current one on the character Cheeta and a separate one on the chimp who originally portrayed him (Jiggs (chimpanzee)). BPK (talk) 18:59, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It is much better now, because there were several chimpanzees playing the "cheeta" movie version. There is only one thing missing though, and this is the claim that the "real Cheeta" would be of age 80, which is IMHO unverifiable. 188.23.92.162 (talk) 21:23, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the original Cheeta still alive? 

message: I put this section back where it has been for about a year.  Please believe me, it is not spam.  The book is relevant to the article and the fact that one chimp is put forward as Cheeta for his whole career is relevant to the discussion.  David  — Preceding unsigned comment added by BollyDave (talk • contribs) 12:19, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Me Cheeta

message: She's dead
Obrigado.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 151.33.96.44 (talk) 12:52, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The newspapers are reporting that Cheeta is dead, but that appears to be another chimp, not the one owned by Dan Westfall of C.H.E.E.T.A.  But the newspapers are reporting that a Cheeta at Suncoast Primate Sanctuary just died at 80, and they are reporting it as Tarzan's Cheeta. (http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/12/cheetah-the-chimp-star-of-tarzan-movies-dies-at-age-80/1)  This makes no sense to me. Carlo (talk) 16:32, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  E' morta 

message: Which of them died? Kittybrewster  ☎ 15:02, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The one claimed to be born around ~1931. (But I dont think that chimpanzee was born there, reaching 80 years when other chimpanzees reach about 40-50 years even in good condition in zoos is VERY very dubious...) 188.23.92.162 (talk) 21:24, 28 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Some careful and thoughtful edits are needed to update the article. Edison (talk) 05:26, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no evidence that Cheeta-Mike has died and I don't believe any chimp who acted with Tarzan in the original film is still alive. Kittybrewster  ☎ 13:01, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, we need to remove that portion of the article. It appears to be a hoax.  --LostOverThere (talk) 11:35, 30 December 2011 (UTC)

text: and what if it is true and you remove it?--68.231.15.56 (talk) 22:20, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Rather remove it than not being true. However, adding the references where doubt is expressed and argued, as well as a clear warning note in the text might be sufficient. There are various news sources where background information is stated, e.g. . --VanBurenen (talk) 19:13, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Cheeta died Dec 2011

message: I've merged the extremely confusing Jiggs (chimpanzee) into this article. Jiggs as an individual who played a small number of roles over a period of 10 years is not notable enough for its own article. It seems like other animals were named Jiggs but that can be dealt with in this article. Cheer, Jack (talk) 13:13, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Jiggs (chimpanzee) in 

message: Althoug of course played by a chimpanzee, Cheetah originally was supposed to be a young Mangani whose parents were killed during the Parker-Holt expedition.80.141.177.30 (talk) 15:16, 23 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe not nonsense. (I had reverted your comment earlier.) Please explain more. Providing reliable sourcing will help. – S. Rich (talk) 15:26, 23 February 2013 (UTC)

text: You just made it! (That is, the one year deadline for providing a source. (Just kidding.)) I see the shooting of the parent, but the clip does not go on to say the infant is adopted. In any event, viewing and analysis of episodes by us Wikipedia editors is problematic. Are we engaging in original research when we do so? IOW, I think we need secondary sources.  – S. Rich (talk) 17:46, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mangani 

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