Talk:Loveline/Archive 1

message: I believe the "Dr. Pinsky" references should be changed back to "Dr. Drew".  While "Dr. Pinsky" is more formal and is certainly more correct in a certain sense, and should probably be used for articles like New York Minute, during the show, he almost always (if not always) goes by "Dr. Drew", and I think most references to him here should be as "Dr. Drew".  --Interiot 15:49, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fine. I was the one that changed most of the references of Dr. Drew to Dr. Pinsky in the first place. I have changed most of these references back to be Dr. Drew. --Rookkey 07:00, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drew vs. Pinsky 

message: I've been listening to "Loveline" on and off for about a dozen years on its station of origin, KROQ in Los Angeles. It seems to me that the show only went into national syndication years after Rachtman left - maybe around 2002 or 2003, which is about when I started hearing callers from outside of the Los Angeles area calling in. If anybody knows for sure, and if I'm correct, would you please change the article to reflect accurately when (in the last couple of years) "Loveline" became nationally syndicated?
:It was national a long time before that. I first heard it in about 1997 but it might have been national for long before then. I don't know about where callers came from in general, but long before 2002 they had a national hotline, 1-800-LOVE-191. --Howdybob 10:36, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've added a citation to an article linked on the Loveline Companion from an August 1996 Daily Minnesota. In the article, it mentions when the show was first nationally syndicated, as well as the competition for airtime between Rikki and Adam. SGreenwell 00:24, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of first national syndication? 

message: Someone posted this in the article, I moved it here:
* Dr. Drew also stated on the June 8, 2006 show that he ran the sound board for about 10 years on Loveline, including putting in the cart tapes for the intros, outros, and commercials. I'm guessing this 10 year period was from about 1986 until 1996, when Westwood One began syndicating the show and Mike Dooley was the engineer. --Liface 21:02, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dr. Drew as "engineer" 

message: Here are some I cut. Adam:
* "Whaddaya gonna do?"
* "At least you can say you never duked into a decorative popcorn tin."
* "What ya gonna do?"
* "Gee, am I drunk!"
* "JobCorps is prison, with a flathead shovel."
* "He's a big boy."
* "I said GOOD DAY!"
* "Okay, baby doll."
* "Gotta get it on! No choice but to get it on! Mandate: get it on!"
* "Are you high!?"
* "Whoooo?" (Mexican Accent)
* "Asian or Jew?"
* "It takes all kinds."      (I think the "we can't judge" covers that idea)
Drew:
* "When I was 19 I ate six boiled peyote buttons but felt no effect."
* "What's up Vica!"
* "Yoooooou'rrrrrrrrrrre gaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyy"
* "He's gay!" 
* "Are you a mormon?"
* "Good times."
Some other Drew quotes I cut are still in the Drops section. 
Drew Drops that I cut:
* "Are you a Mormon?"
* "You're a lesbian."
* "You're a heroin addict."
Please add any more that are cut below. --Howdybob 21:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes that have been cut 

message: I'm guessing that the link to the Loveline Archive is being removed because of its legality.  It does provide links to full Loveline shows, which may or may not be legal, depending on your point of view.  I know that Drew and Adam have said that they don't care that the show is available on the Internet, but Westwood One has taken steps against sites hosting shows before.  Does that site have information not covered by other sites outside of downloads?  Of course, if there's another reason for the removal, it would be nice for the anonymous user to talk about it. SGreenwell 05:12, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say it's pretty relevant and helpful to anyone visiting the page. It's definitely the most comprehensive archive out there. Not too sure on the legality, but does anyone really care if past episodes of a radio show are put on a website? It's not like it's stopping anyone from buying anything, in my view. Unless the anonymous editor has something to say, we should leave it in. --Liface 05:35, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, normally I would say that it would be illegal (stupidly illegal but illegal non the less) but if you go to the official website, they have loveline episodes available for free download []. RickO5 02:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Loveline Archive Removal 

message: Am I the only one who thinks that although they do this on the show, it's completely bogus. I have nothing to back this up, but I was assume that Adam and Drew would have information about the call beforehand from the screener. So they don't really have the skills, they are just being funny.
: I don't really think there's a reason to doubt them.  I can do it too at times; if someone is calling into the show, you can safely assume that they come from a certain background with certain issues.  I consider it similar to "Asian or Jew?" - Carolla is almost never wrong at it, and I doubt he knows THAT information from the call screeners or computer.  Also, please sign your comments with four tildes. SGreenwell 02:50, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  General Caller Betting 

message: I'm wondering if we should move David Allan Grier to a new sub category of frequent guests.  He has been on a lot, but at the same time so has Danny Bonaduce, Steve-O, Joe Rogan, etc.  Carson Daly even was the guest host for a week, but I don't think he would fit in this same category?  Any big opposition to this or can someone find a source where DAG is referred to as the "Third Host?"--Twintone 22:38, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guest Hosts 

message: I understand that he was a major part of the show for quite some time, but I swear this article talks more about stuff related to him than anything else. Just something to watch. JPG-GR 05:03, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To add to CJ's comments, Adam was the first co-host when the show went national.  As a result, he and Drew are the most identifiable duo in regards to the show's listeners.  I live in Rhode Island, so I've never even heard Carolla's predecessors, except for a few crappy recordings that still exist of Rachtman and Poorman.  SGreenwell 23:07, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Frankly Adam is all I ever hear anybody talk about in reference to the show. Adam and Dr. Drew had good chemistry, but when Drew hosted along with a guest host (Adam absent), the show was too educational and too boring. The comedy angle was pure gold.203.131.167.26 09:39, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But - Adam's no longer hosting the show.  There's a lot in the article that's not just about Loveline, but about the "Adam & Dr. Drew" show.  That's no longer current.  Does anyone have any suggestions for separating the Adam stuff from current stuff?  Like a Loveline with Dr. Drew and Adam site or a Loveline (With Adam Carolla) site or something liek that?--Torourkeus 18:38, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Adam made the show.  It got syndicatelly nationally while he was co-host.  He's important to the history of the show. -- Craigtalbert 20:19, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Completely understood, which is why I think its important that Adam's stuff is still on Wikipedia somewhere.  But Adam's 'bits' are no longer a part of the show.  Plus, lots of the article still refers to Adam in the present tense - no longer true.  There's an entire section of Adam's pet-peves, which either belong in a new loveline article based on those years or in Adam Carola's article itself.  Many of the in-jokes are specific to Adam, the controversey (while important to the shows history) also takes place during the Adam years.  The new and current host, Stryker, has his own quirks and pet-peves and although more relevant to the current show it doesn't feel like it fits with all the Adam stuff.  I really don't want to just throw out all that information but the show pretty much has a new format now and lots of this article don't apply anymore.--Torourkeus 15:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

text:  I tried making one.  See Loveline (With Adam Carolla).  Almost (but not all) the stuff in this newly created article can be removed from the current Loveline article with a link to the Adam Carolla version.  This would dramatically reduce the size of the article and allow for it to be updated with new Stryker lingo, motifs, etc. --Torourkeus 15:26, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree that the tense should be changed, and re-written so that it's more up-to-date. But for the same reason there's very little about Poorman or Riki Rachtman there's no reason to force information about Stryker in the the article. As of yet, he's just not that consequential.  Now, that being said, I think we could probably make a second article for "Loveline bits" or something similar and most of the stuff from Adam's Pet Peeves and Games, In-Jokes, and other Miscellany could probably go in there. That would get a lot of the fan cruft out of the main article. -- Craigtalbert 18:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adam Carolla 

message: Hi, I'm putting this here because there's been four or five edits about how the show is losing popularity, affliates, etc. since Carolla left.  While I don't doubt the validity of this, you really *need* a citation for such a claim.  Otherwise, it is a transparent dig against Stryker and biased.  SGreenwell 16:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The show's popularity 

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message: I messaged Stryker on myspace to find the exact date of his new co-host crown. CJMylentz 01:12, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't put that it was official, just simply that he's been the co-host since a certain date.  I don't think they've "officially" given him the job on air, probably for fear of a fan revolt or something.  Regardless, the fact that he hasn't missed a show (excluding "best of"s) for about two months seems pretty significant to me.  He might not be the permanent co-host, but given the length of time, a mention seems appropriate. SGreenwell 06:11, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The first full week he was on (the beginning of June), the guest kept congratulating him and complimenting the new "format" of the show.--Twintone 18:04, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, I heard about that as well, but I'm not sure if that constitutes an "official" announcement that he's gotten the job.  SGreenwell 20:08, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think there is such a thing as official with loveline, even Adam was a gradual thing, I doubt they'll ever declare anything explicitly, until it's already retrospectively obvious anyway. Vicarious 20:15, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

text: According to replies on DAG's blog it was official "yesterday" on September 28th.  I just downloaded the shows around that date and I'll see if I can find it.  Since I'm not sure that I'll be able to, I'm mentioning it here.
Stryker literally announced on this recent June 21(or maybe 20?), 2007 show that he officially started on June 6, 2006, and specifically denied that he started in July.  He says it right towards the beginning, and there are recordings on www.lovelineshow.com.  I won't edit until someone else corroborates this though.Legitimus 18:52, 26 June 2007 (UTC)

text: According to a list of shows from a private Loveline site I visit, Stryker hosted a week of shows from June 6 to June 15. He then disappeared until July 16, at which point he seems to take over the hosting duties. I find it odd that he was "officially" made host June 6, then given essentially a one-month vacation. Like a lot of what he says, I think this might be more bombast than substance, and I think we should keep July 16 as the date. SGreenwell 02:55, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  When was Stryker Official? 

message: This doesn't strike me as particularly notable or unique.
:In addition, some fans digitally record and share episodes.
I've removed it.  Feel free to re-add with a reason for its presence. =David(talk)(contribs) 00:04, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fan sharing 

message: Didn't Fletcher also puke there? I remember having heard the audio file from the band's website a few years ago. --Blazar 14:56, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know what you are talking about, but I think that was a different time.  If I remember correctly, I think Drew said something to the tune of "12 years ago", which would make it around 1994/1995.  I think it was before Adam too but I could be wrong.  They play a recording of that incident a lot.  I'll recap here for those who may not know:  It's right at the end of the show, and a caller is talking.  You hear a strange sound in the background as Fletcher, having consumed copious amounts of pizza and tequila during the show, sudden projectile-vomits on the console.  He becomes amused at everyone's revulsion and begins chasing Dr. Drew around the studio puking on him intentionally while another band mate starts saying over the mic "Uh, loveline is over, it's...I'm sorry, we have large ugly man in our guitar band, and ..."  Producer Anne shrieks not to barf on her and runs out.  Fletcher corners Drew, who has climbed on top of a cabinet, and starts putting his finger down his throat so that he can keep puking on him.  Drew tries vainly to punch him in the face in order to get him away, but it does nothing to Fletcher.  Then it cuts off or something. I guess this is not a controversy per se, just a funny story.  Legitimus 00:06, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re Pennywise 

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message: I was listening to loveline one night and they took a call and they were saying that he call in on the secret line. Just curious if anyone knows what that is.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.213.233.162 (talk) 23:20, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secret Line? 

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message: Bones Season 6, Ep 2 8:00 minutes in. "Your here as a shrink Dr. Sweets. NOT as a guest on Loveline."
Not sure how to place that into the section if someone else would like to do so
129.63.53.152 (talk) 19:23, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Reference? 

message: Does everybody like the new layout I did?  Just curious
::Love it.  Although the "On-Screen and Print" section should probably come AFTER the "controversies" section. 128.125.65.164 (talk) 00:37, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Layout 

message: Why shouldn't we include the two stars guest appearances on other shows? CJMylentz (talk) 08:53, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guest Appearances  

message: I've stumbled across this article from last month which says Amber Rose is the new host of Loveline, which is now in podcast form. The article makes it seem that this is a continuation of the radio Loveline, so shouldn't this be reflected here?LM2000 (talk) 01:20, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I've gone ahead and made these changes.LM2000 (talk) 21:02, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amber Rose