Talk:All Saints' College, Perth

message: The History section refers to the new logo, but the Infobox image is still the old logo. Currently the new logo isn't even on the college's website yet - although it is visible on the Portal (which is only accessible to college staff, pupils and parents).  I'll update the image at some stage, but it would probably be courteous to wait until it is publicly visible, eg on the college website. (Waiting until it is publicly visible also makes it verifiable.) Mitch Ames (talk) 14:31, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  New logo 

message: All Saints' College has digitised all of its yearbooks and made them available on their website. (If the direct link fails, eg if they change the internal MenuID, go to the College's home page, then look under College Community, Archive, Columba Year Books.) This will probably make a useful resource for anyone who wants to add references, verify or expand some of the information in the article. However, be aware that the files are quite large - from about 50 to 200 MB each - so may take a significant time to download. Mitch Ames (talk) 07:43, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Magazines (The Dove) are now also available on line, so I've added that to External links also. Mitch Ames (talk) 03:52, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yearbooks online 

message: As per the  tag, the School Life section has several problems with it. As per my previous edit I believe it should simply be deleted, but as requested by the author's restoration, let's discuss the matter.
The restoration comment says "Added changes which are in nature cannot be referenced", however, as per WP:VERIFY:
* The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability ...
* All material in Wikipedia articles must be attributable to a reliable published source ...
* Verifiability is one of Wikipedia's core content policies
If you want to keep the material, you're going to have provide references or sources. In the absence of any published sources, must of the detail in the section looks like original research, which is not allowed.
The section appears to have a distinct point of view, which violates WP:NPOV. It needs to be re-written from a more neutral perspective. FCuserk, I'm guessing from the contents of the section that you're probably a senior student at ASC, most likely in year 12 - but correct me if I'm wrong.  This doesn't prevent you from editing the article, but it may does raise issues of neutrality and conflict of interest. If you are a student, or have some other close connection to the college, it's probably worth stating that connection in this discussion. For the record, until last year I was the parent of one or two senior students, and my wife worked in the canteen. I currently have no direct association with the college.
Finally, much of the detail is simply not notable enough for an encyclopedia. For example, the price of a leaver's jacket this year, the "hat rule" etc.
While I've no doubt the contents of the section are of interest to students (and perhaps staff) at the college, most of it does not belong in an encyclopedia. To keep the section, you're going to need to:
* Provide sources/references
* Prune it down significantly
* Write more neutrally
I - and no doubt, other editors - can help with the last two items, but only if you at least do the first. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:09, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This section did indeed violate WP:V, WP:NPOV and probably WP:OR, all of which are fundamental core policies here. I have therefore removed the section. Hut 8.5 15:58, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  School Life 

message: I'm a little concerned that the Western Australian Certificate of Education results section (text originally added by Hughesdarren, then edited by me):
* is contrary to WP:WPSCHOOLS/AG#WNTI's "Comparisons of ... exam results, etc ..."
* is non-neutral with its assertion that "The school has established a good academic record and has featured regularly amongst the top performing schools"
* has columns like "% +75 in WACE" that may be meaningless to anyone outside Western Australia
Any suggests as to how we could address these issues? Or should we just delete the whole section? Mitch Ames (talk) 11:33, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  WACE results 

message: Could you please tag specific weasel words/phrases in the article with inline tags - or list them here on the talk page. It would be easier to fix if we knew exactly what the problem was. Mitch Ames (talk) 08:59, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears that the pieces of concern were removed as part of the copyright violations that were removed but the tag remained in place. The other issues are verifiability, and notability as all sources for the majority of the content are from the school, no independent substantive sources have been used Gnangarra 09:47, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I suspected that was the case. I've now removed the  hatnote. Mitch Ames (talk) 12:27, 2 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weasel words 

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