Talk:List of deemed universities

message: The lead of this article is in urgent need of cleanup. There are about 2 sentences total about what a deemed university actually is and the rest is just general information on universities in India. Pishcal — ♣ 07:53, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
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message: As per UGC, "NAAC certification must for all universities and colleges". 
The edit by User:Muhandes stating "rm NAAC grading, it is not up to date, some were falsely listed, and it has no bearing on the subject since NAAC grading is voluntary", is not valid and amounts to vandalism. Before deleting a large amount of info, discuss. Abesam (talk) 00:50, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I left you a response on your talk page regarding the personal content of your message, It does not belong here. What does belong here is that since you object to my change, I will start a new discussion about the page overhaul which I'm planning. Best regards. --Muhandes (talk) 07:07, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  NAAC certification must for all universities and colleges 

message: I am proposing the following changes to the list. My aim is for a more uniform look with List of central universities in India, List of state universities in India, List of private universities in India. 
# Remove the numbers. They make maintenance very difficult and add no data since there is no serialization involved.
# Use rowspan for the state column, similar to List of central universities in India, List of state universities in India and List of private universities in India.
# Regarding NAAC acccreditation, I personally don't like to list it from two reasons. First, I believe it gives undue weight. If I'm not mistaken, NAAC was made mandatory in 2013 but only to the general stream, not to institutes in the technical and medical streams. By adding it we are saying NAAC is the one and only mark of quality, which does not seem to me to be fair for an accreditation which for many institutes is voluntary. Second, NAAC accreditation is for five yeas (or at most seven year) so every year 15-20% of the list needs updating. I am incapable of keeping track of this, so unless someone says they will keep the list updated, the list will always be misleading.
Please mention in your comments which of these three proposals you support or object to. --Muhandes (talk) 16:44, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I agree with your first 2, but disagree with the 3rd. Over time, NAAC accreditation will only become more relevant. I will try to keep the list updated, and I think many Wikipedians might try to help out too. Many lists in Wikipedia are in the same status, many Universities in the USA, for example, do not have an up to date information on accreditation, but eventually, they do get updated. Abesam (talk) 23:04, 12 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:   First, can you prove your claim that ? Is there some source for it or is it your own speculation? Second, you mentioned lists of universities in the US with the same situation, can you please give some examples so we can see how they handle it? Third, you did not address the issue of undue weight due to the fact that technical and medical institutes are not required to have NAAC accreditation. At the very least they should be marked differently to show that. Finally, you said , so please prove your point. From random sampling, half the list is now misleading and incorrect, please fix it. --Muhandes (talk) 00:38, 13 December 2017 (UTC)

text:   Did you lose interest? I made four claims, I think they should be addressed. Most importantly, the last claim needs addressing, the current list is out of date and misleading and you said  (here is a pointer). --Muhandes (talk) 18:45, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:   The fact that a month has passed and the article still has the misleading and out of date information clearly demonstrates the falsity of your claim  I am giving it a week more, but then I'm removing the the NAAC accreditation again as it is out of date, misleading, and no editor is willing to improve it, so we are better of without it. --Muhandes (talk) 12:54, 26 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:   except the rowspan. Going to do that as part of an overhaul of all lists. --Muhandes (talk) 12:28, 8 February 2018 (UTC)
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