Talk:Anton Du Beke

message: The citation for his 'real name' Tony Beak is from a Daily Mail article dated after this article had the name. The way things are going I don't trust the DM not simply to have used this article as its 'source' for the 'information'. An older citation would be better - or one from a more reliable source (e.g. his website, an interview in which the name comes up explicitly). 88888 (talk) 16:39, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Still not adequately sourced and s far as I am concerned is mere gossip; removed. --kingboyk (talk) 20:57, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is relatively well known in the dance world, but I agree, needs an adequate source to be put in this article Gingernut1015 (talk) 08:19, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree the Daily Mail citation is dodgy - reading the article they clearly are looking to put a spin on things. And since we're listing his father's surname as Beke I'm going to alter the original name to Antony Beke which seems more neutral a statement. Andy Farrell (talk) 09:09, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Tony Beak

message: "He left school at 16 to follow an amateur dancing career."
I know little about ballroom dancing, so I haven't amended it, but can someone with more extensive knowledge explain how one can have an amateur career? Tsuguya (talk) 14:00, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Competitive dancing is broadly split into "professional" and "amateur". Professionals are paid to dance in some form, generally by teaching and performing exhibitions. In theory amateurs aren't and also have a "day job" to fund their dancing. This is complicated a little though by different governing bodies allowing amateurs to earn money if they follow some specific criteria (EADA, the English Amateur Dance Association have a coaching scheme for instance). 213.143.18.224 (talk) 16:20, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Amateur?

message: He's an idiot for bringing up the terrorist joke. That's way too silly nowadays. I can't trust him now with the 'paki' word. 
On the other hand, i don't know the context of the situation. By itself, the paki incident actually seemed funny. But how did anyone find out about it? Did it happen on the set?  I'm half east-indian, by the way. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.2.202.2 (talk) 10:57, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: All the info about it has been removed. The article should say something about it, as it has gained a large amount of media coverage. Wiki editor 6 (talk) 19:09, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, I have researched, written and added the section.KarlBattery (talk) 19:33, 9 October 2009 (UTC)

text: Hello Responsiballot, thank you for your comments. I did not realise this issue was not already active on Talk before making my last edit. My apologies for this. I appreciate your POV on the matter. Being a Londoner from a middle class background I do have a very different experience of the use of the word, but hopefully neither of our POVs influence the section. The rationale behind my alteration of your edit was simply this: that none of the material in the most recent edit constitutes in any way 'unsubstantiated allegations' as I will demonstrate. I consider that i) the 'terrorist' incident, having been reported by the News of the World, and then repeated as an assertion in the Daily Mail and with no denials from any party, needn't be couched in terms that make it look like an unsubstantiated allegation. It can be re-reported as fact here on Wiki: quoting from the DM article: 'However, two weeks ago it was revealed that when first introduced to his series partner, Du Beke had joked, 'You're not a terrorist, are you?' on learning of Miss Rouass's background.' The Daily Mail would not, regardless of our opinions on the newspaper itself, make such an 'unsubstantiated allegation'. Similarly ii) the 'Paki' incident. I don't think anyone would consider it to be hearsay, libellous or in any way 'unsubstantiated', it having been acknowledged by the BBC themselves. Were it not to have happened, no apologies would be forthcoming. Hence the direct reporting of it. The sources are cited and can be referred to by the reader. Regarding the multifarious quotes from various parties these are again embedded in citations and given the material facts don't, I believe, need to be repeated. I think the BBC's quote is relevant to this page, and concludes the whole incident. I think you're right, it is bringing the issue to the fore so it can be debated. I believe the version I presented is the most expedient, streamlined and neutral version of events thus far. KarlBattery (talk) 22:41, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to add, neither I nor the section as it is written accuses Anton of racism - potentially racially offensive language yes, but not racism. KarlBattery (talk) 22:45, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

text: This section of the article should state where and when the offending comments were spoken, and it should be stated that it was off-air. Wiki editor 6 (talk) 18:42, 10 October 2009 (UTC)

text: I think AF's edit is a sum greater than the parts KB or myself could offer. I think it reads as balanced, and is wiki-aligned. For me, if no more developments occur, it reads like a representative section.86.175.45.27 (talk) 19:36, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Laila Rouass]] controversy 

message: This vital piece of biographical info is not present in the article. Wiki editor 6 (talk) 18:43, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Place of birth 

message: As far as I can see, this was added without reference and looks to me like a touch of vandalism...does anyone else agree? 109.151.5.72 (talk) 20:45, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: removed. unsourced, BLP. Chienlit (talk) 22:55, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boxing 

message: I can't see Anton mentioned in the Music Hall Guild's website. Certainly not in the !about" page which lists patrons, and is given here as a reference... http://www.themusichallguild.com/about.php  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.40.214.250 (talk) 14:17, 14 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music Hall Guild 

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