Talk:List of inventions in the medieval Islamic world

message: Jagged 85's work, removed by various other editors over the years, has "mysteriously" been re-added to many pages this past month by IPs who only seem to stick around for a day each. Everything that was recently added was removed years ago for reasons given in their edit summaries, mostly involving them being complete nonsense or misrepresentations of the sources or disputed "inventions" (like "humanitarian law"), so I deleted most of the re-added material. If I accidentally deleted something someone else wrote please fix it. Dragoon17 (talk) 06:39, 27 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for that. I have been looking at the IP's edits wondering if they were Jagged or merely another enthusiast. My problem was that I could not find the source of the material being added in the files that I still have from the cleanup period, nor could I find it in a quick search. Johnuniq (talk) 07:02, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

text: Yeah, it's from several years ago. Almost ten years ago, in fact! I spotted it when I saw the same paragraph that an IP added to Jury and Jury trial was also added here, then I remembered seeing the same thing here . Edit-wanted to add I have no idea if the stuff still on this page is even accurate, I just basically restored it to what it was in early April. Perhaps someone else can check it when they have the time. Dragoon17 (talk) 07:27, 27 April 2019 (UTC)

text: We never really completed the expurgation of his errors. All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 12:37, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Further note, much of his text, he also posted to a wiki somewhere, and some of it has been reproduced by third parties, including one major scholarly publisher.  All the best: Rich Farmbrough, 13:21, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jagged 85  

message: According to the history of the guitar, the origins are a grey area between the guitarra latina and guitarra morisca. Interestingly, this article cites the same source used in the guitar article, but it seemingly represents it as a Muslim invention. 
Compare it to 
This is a seemingly misrepresentation of the source. I believe there are grounds for its removal as it is not conclusive as to who specifically invented the guitar. This article is also discussing Muslim inventions, not Muslim influences. ChaoticTexan (talk) 06:44, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guitar Dispute 

message: The main article is so blatantly wrong on almost every point, I do not know how Wikipedia can print such lies.
I have been through the list and found fault with almost everything. Others have too:
https://wikiislamica.net/wiki/How_Islamic_Inventors_Did_Not_Change_The_World
Time to dump the lie sheet. It makes Wikipedia look bad. (185.239.56.135 (talk) 21:40, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: wikiislamica.net is a user-edited site and not a reliable source. Almost all entries in the current version of the article have inline references to sources that have been assessed as reliable per WP:RS. If you have WP:RS references that show an alternative source for any listed invention, we can discuss those references here, and potentially change entries based on those refs.Dialectric (talk) 01:51, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  You are completely right. Most of the so called islamic investions were actually done by the people they conquered. This article is exactly what fake news are. It is a shame that English wikipedia so blatantly spread misinformation. --Pliers123 (talk) 22:42, 30 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: ALL LIES

message: Is it okay to add orthinopter to this list?
https://go.gale.com/ps/i.do?id=GALE%7CA349903599&sid=googleScholar&v=2.1&it=r&linkaccess=abs&issn=19950772&p=AONE&sw=w&userGroupName=anon%7E1f7a4f8
Hu741f4 (talk) 16:18, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but not with the source you cited, which is not written by reputable historians and therefore not reliable in context. I suggest taking a look at  (plucked this from the Abbas ibn Firnas article; there will be much better sources out there, but this may provide a good start). ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 16:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orthinopter? 

message: I believe Chemical synthesis shouldn't be in this list because synthesis of inorganic or organic chemicals pre dates islamic civilization.
Hu741f4 (talk) 16:23, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The writings attributed to Jabir ibn Hayyan are widely recognized by historians of chemistry as marking a shift towards experimentation with organic substances. The synthesis of sal ammoniac from hair or blood is widely cited in regard to this. Can you cite a reliable source that describes the chemical synthesis of an inorganic compound from organic substances in a pre-Islamic author? ☿ Apaugasma (talk ☉) 16:45, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chemical synthesis