Talk:Siege of Leningrad

message: There is nothing in the article that challenges the idea that Finland was engaged in a defensive war, which smacks of partiality. 2607:FEA8:BFA0:47F:FC8E:56FB:833F:34AC (talk) 19:41, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finns have great PR! 

message: This article says, 'Their headquarters rejected German pleas for aerial attacks against Leningrad[51] and did not advance farther south from the Svir River in occupied East Karelia (160 kilometres northeast of Leningrad), which they had reached on 7 September." and then is says, "The proximity of the Finnish border – 33–35 km (21–22 mi) from downtown Leningrad – and the threat of a Finnish attack complicated the defence of the city." How far were the Finnish army from Leningrad? 2A02:8084:6A20:4600:D5A1:D2F2:FC6A:6AB3 (talk) 21:25, 11 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Closest point was probably on shore of the Gulf of Finland at river Sestra (Rajajoki), essentially where the pre-Winter War Finnish-Soviet border had been. That front had remained static since September 1941 and trench warfare style conditions had begun. The reference about Svir river is about the linking up of the Finnish and German forces south of Svir which - if completed - would have created a second ring of envelopment around Leningrad. - Wanderer602 (talk) 05:24, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: How near were the Finns to Leningrad?

message: Apparently the Putin government has been working on the genocide charges recently, i.e.
*September 2022: Russian prosecutor seeks to recognize siege of Leningrad as genocide
*October 2022: Saint Petersburg court recognizes Siege of Leningrad as genocide
*January 2023: What Putin's Speech Tells Us About His Ukraine Narrative: "Saying that the Soviet Union defeated Nazi's Germany's "genocide of Leningrad," Putin drew parallels between the blockade of the 1940s and Russia's battle against what he called "Ukrainian neo-Nazis" in Donbas, the think tank added." 
A more detailed evaluation, with these recent developments, would be welcome in Siege_of_Leningrad#Genocide. Some of the sources cited talk about the Hunger Plan which isn't even mentioned here. 46.30.132.129 (talk) 12:25, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Classification as a genocide 

message: Why is this article not top of "Today in History" on the 27th of January 1944 ?! 172.56.34.34 (talk) 20:36, 27 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Because the section "Soviet relief of the siege" needs more references for verification. :3 F4U (they/it) 13:20, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Siege of Leningrad 

message: sorry if this is incoherent i am very very very high right now but under "Soviet relief of the siege" the  Symphony no7 Leningrad concert is marked Citation Needed, the same concert is mentioned under Timeline>1942>9 August and it does have a citation [93]. i cant understand how to help edit but maybe that helps fix that citation 2600:1700:6870:3920:8B7:97F6:3598:9196 (talk) 15:02, 9 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  citation found ? 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved.  – robertsky (talk) 11:30, 10 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Siege of Leningrad →  – I propose to rename the main article to the "Blockade of Leningrad" instead of redirecting because it`s widely known in Soviet and later Russian historiography as the "blockade" (Russian: Блокада Ленинграда). Besides, here in countries of the former Soviet Union every family call it the "blockade" not the "siege" (especially those who survived). As there are many archive documents written in Russian, it`s rare to meet the term "siege". It can be confusing for researchers. Borisenko-ru (talk) 13:23, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitions differ between countries and agencies. In English a siege generally refers to a smaller area of effect like a city, village or even a single building, while blockade refers to a larger area of effect like a region, province or country. While Saint Petersburg is very large, it would still fall under siege and not blockade in common definition. Blockhaj (talk) 08:15, 3 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Also, at the end of the day, sieges and blockades differes between events so neither term would be sufficient to explain the broader picture. It was a military blockade of a city (aka a siege), with the aim to kill off the majority of the russian population (a genocide). Blockhaj (talk) 08:19, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It was a larger area. Borisenko-ru (talk) 08:50, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The borders are within the Leningrad suburbs, a siege doesn't have to strictly be the metropolitan area.--Blockhaj (talk) 12:25, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not here to support either side, but doesn't Glantz include the entire northern front as the "Battle of Leningrad" in his 2001 book? Reaper1945 (talk) 23:06, 3 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 3 April 2024