Talk:Coast to Coast Walk

message: My recollection is that AW devised this route as antidote to the Pennine Way, to show how any walker competent at map work could devise their own long-distance route, without the need for special designation. Which is why it's in the right spirit that there IS still no designated route and that many alternatives exist. Am I remembering correctly? Bob aka linuxlad
Quite right, have added notes to that effect - Chris Jones
Wainwright's publishers presumably believe that there is a "correct route", and continue to produce new versions to take account of alterations in rights of way (or perhaps just to USE rights of way where Wainwright didn't).  I don't know if the authors of all the different guides (about three, aren't there?) always agree on the route (if they do, where do they go for the "official" version?).  It is surprising, really, that the Coast to Coast has never become a National Trail (why we had to go US usage for that I'll never know) - it WOULD have an official route then.  Of course, many walkers do insist that it is "cheating" to deviate an inch from the "book" route, and thus miss Wainwright's point about finding your own way.  I've done the walk twice, and my approach was to stick by his route pretty much except when heading to pubs or hotels off the line (in which case I would not worry unduly about getting back to his route at the same point I left it).  What I DO consider cheating (for me) is (a) Getting someone else to carry clothes around for me (b) Getting lifts in cars. I do not mind others doing that, of course ; but I would feel I was doing a connected series of day walks, rather than a three-week (yes, three!  I never rush) journey: I'm sure others would think this was very nit-picky of me!.  Of course, all walkers on this route have so much more in common compared with anyone who can't understand the pleasures of country walking, that to argue amongst ourselves about protocol should only be in fun, never for real.  NorthOnTop 14:14, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Correct Route'?

message: This page is crying out for some photos and maps if anyone has any--Moonlight Mile 22:54, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you wish to release the photos for use here then you can upload the images, see Help for details of how to do this. Would be best to create an account first so that you can keep track of the  edits / uploads you make. Keith D (talk) 23:38, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures and maps

message: Added a link to our C2C journal.
Anybody wishing to use any of the photos either on our journal or photo gallery to spruce up the page is free to do so.
Kevanliz 07:01, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Journal 

message: Much of this article reads like a how-to or guide rather than an encyclopedia article (Wikipedia is not a travel guide), with a lot of personal opinions to boot. Some substantial pruning and shortening would make it a much better article I think. --Blisco 11:16, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's some information here which I agree is not suitable for wikipedia, but could well be valuable in a wikitravel article on the Coast to Coast. --David Edgar 12:36, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes a lot of sense to me.  The info is good - just not encyclopedic --Herby talk thyme 12:48, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Unfortunately it's not possible to copy text to Wikitravel unless you're the copyright holder, due to license incompatibility (WT uses a Creative Commons license rather than GFDL), and the info was added by an anon so it would be difficult to ask them. One solution might be to preserve it on someone's user subpage for the time being -- unless (or until) anyone would like to publish it on their own personal website. --Blisco 19:54, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Travel guide 

message: Don't know if it was Chris Jones, Dave Dunford or NorthOnTop who put the Wainwright quote in in the grey box, but it's attributed as coming from "A coast to coast path".  Is it a quote from a coast to coast walk or a requote in another book?  If it's the latter it needs a reference at the bottom.  Cheers Tomcrocker 16:39, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is from A Coast to Coast Walk (I've just checked). Now amended. --Blisco 18:05, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Blisco Tomcrocker 21:21, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wainwright quote

message: There is not much difference between these two distances. They could both be correct.  See "A divider caliper is also used to measure a distance between two points on a map." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caliper#Divider_caliper The distance measured on the map will depend on the distance between the caliper's points. As this is reduced the distance measured will increase. (This is also the case if a GPS is used to record the route. If the GPS records points closer together the distance will increase.) Using a higher scale map will give a length that is greater. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_Long_Is_the_Coast_of_Britain%3F_Statistical_Self-Similarity_and_Fractional_Dimension  QuentinUK (talk) 23:38, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:   this alleged re-measuring 

message: Substituted at 11:57, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Wainwright’s statement of 192 miles distance seems a bit exaggerating (on the other hand, his route has been shortened since by necessary amendments). A GPX track of the current route results in a "flat" measurement of 291 kms distance (180.8 miles), routers considering the elevation profile give 294.7 kms (183.1 miles).BRouter by Arndt Brenschede I think this should at least be mentioned in the article.  --Kreuzschnabel (talk) 14:33, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distance 

message: I have hidden the elevation change in the article; it has not been removed, it just will not display until we resolve this. You may be completely right, however, we need a Reliable Source (RS) to state what the elevation change actually is. By your own admission, you have calculated the elevation change, which unfortunately is WP:OR. No-one is disputing your calculations or their accuracy, but the previous measurement was there for some time before you changed it. Until we can agree and find an RS, I think it should stay hidden. Regards. The joy of all things (talk) 07:18, 19 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elevation change 

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