Talk:Highland cattle

message: I reformatted the external links and added a bit more information. The reason I started a talk page, though, was the information about Texas Longhorn cattle being derived from Highlanders. I can't find a citation for that, and it's in direct contradiction to what the Longhorn Wikipedia article says. If anyone can cite a reputable source, we can put that info back. - Gary D Robson 19:34, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Uh latest comment 16 years ago?!?! 2403:5814:C42A:0:E575:113D:9BB9:8F03 (talk) 05:57, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Texas Longhorn cattle

message: Is it possible to ad www.highland-cattle.co.nz to the links page of Scottish Highland Cattle.
Independent Highland Cattle Breeders Academy is a New Zealand Society established to record the pedigrees for its members of their Highland Cattle. Thank you for your consideration. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.234.64.178 (talk) 19:06, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Site looks suitable, added. Bobbacon 21:20, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: cool bro 2403:5814:C42A:0:E575:113D:9BB9:8F03 (talk) 05:57, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added Link 

message: Does anyone have any information on Highland Cattle living in the Andes (HCS UK ) I would love to see some pictures of these or know how they are getting on, where they came from or even how many are there?  I would also be interested in learning of other Folds in obscure place in the World that these amazing cattle call home! Judemac 16:49, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Highland Cattle in the Andes! 

message: Highlands are not my breed, but as a cattle farmer I'm reasonably familiar with the differences in appearance between bulls, cows and steers.  Without being able to see the animals' "bits", it's not possible to be certain, but I'm sure the labels as they were were wrong, so I've changed them.  The one now labelled "cow" ("Highland cow.JPG") is certainly not a bull, and could be a cow (adult female) or possibly an ox (an adult castrated male; a mature steer): it's mature, because the horns are well-grown, but it does not have enough masculine features to be an entire bull (the features are quite delicate, the horns are up-sweeping).  The one now labelled "bull" ("Cow highland cattle.jpg") might possibly be a very heavily built and overweight ox, but the thick, relatively short horns (which are not upward-sweeping), the very muscular neck and very broad head make it look like a bull (adult, uncastrated male).  It's certainly not a cow.  The photo files themselves are both named as "cow", but I fear this is the layman's generic "cattle-singular" term, not an accurate description of type.  Unless anyone has direct knowledge of these individual animals, I think my labels are the best we can do.  If anyone disagrees, or is unhappy with a definite label for an unknown animal, I suggest we just don't label them at all, or change the pictures for ones of known type. --Richard New Forest (talk) 21:03, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Your explanations make sense to me. I think most people (like me) are just ignorant and welcome corrections from a professional. Thanks for your effort! Rror (talk) 21:28, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture captions

message: A comment on size would be nice.
Kevink707 (talk) 15:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size? 

message: "...as well as retaining its undoubted appeal as one of the most handsome beasts that could adorn any landscape."  Really?  I'll be, uh, removing that particularly non-neutral fragment, someone might want to make a pass and remove any other clearly PoV statements. --69.209.60.108 (talk) 23:15, 20 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality? 

message: I'm sorry but this section in Highland cattle is really totally inappropriate. Certainly it "illustrates that they are not evolved for hot climates" - but who would have thought that they were? It's amazing to me that that particular study was done, but it was - yet it's a primary source, and illustrates exactly why we're asked to instead base our work on: "...reliable, published secondary sources and, to a lesser extent, on tertiary sources...". This is one study, whereas if a secondary source existed it would be an aggregate of many such studies, and provide a more reliable and readable result.  The mere fact that such a secondary article does not exist is a hint that no-one else has bothered to study whether a cattle beast bred in a cold climate and covered in shaggy hair does poorly when stuck into a hot one and compared to a vastly different animal described as "well adapted to withstanding high temperatures". Even describing the Highland as having a "lack of heat tolerance" is stretch - should we be editing the Zebu article to say that that breed has a "lack of cold tolerance"? 
(In addition, the primary source, and therefore the info in this section, is hilariously specific - do our readers really need to know that: "they decreased their feed consumption by 31% and oxygen consumption by 19%". This the problem with primary sources, they are written for scientists, and make little sense until compared and contrasted with each other).
Snori (talk) 19:20, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I must say I am very much tempted to agree.  These sorts of studies are usually conducted by animal scientists to give baseline data on extremes of adaptation.  It would be much more informative and helpful to the reader if we were to present comparisons of heat/cold tolerance of other Bos indicus cattle (e.g. Herefords) and Highlands (if these studies exist).DrChrissy (talk) 19:42, 13 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Now replaced with "Cold tolerence" and re-worded etc. Snori (talk) 04:52, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heat tolerance 

message: Highland cattle are not nicknamed "fluffy cow" or "hairy cow" in Scotland, as far as I have heard in 50+ years living in Scotland. No provenance or evidence is given for the claim, so I suspect this is just personal or family idiolect being presumed to be general, maybe because of its obviousness. 
In Scotland a "hairy cow" could describe either a Highland or another Scottish breed, the Galloway.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.187.164.221 (talk) 22:14, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  nicknames - whose? where? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Can we put something to indicate that the Highland cattle is an unofficial national animal of Scotland? Highland cattle are widely seen, certainly in tourism literature about Scotland and is used as a mascot of the country. 159753 (talk) 21:00, 27 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular culture: unofficial national animal of Scotland