Talk:Ploy (film)

message: As this article is on English Wikipedia, it should have a "future film" tag until it is released in (an) English-speaking region(s). Since it has not, I re-inserted the tag. ask123 15:26, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nonetheless, it has been released. Please do not reinsert the tag. Just because this is English Wikipedia does not mean it limits its view to only what is happening in English-speaking countries. There are likely thousands of "foreign" films made since the beginning of cinema that were never released in English-speaking territories. By your rationale, all would need to be reclassified as "future", which would be ridiculous. Anyway, the film was shown at the Cannes Film Festival with a lot of English-speaking people in the audience, and is now playing in Thailand, where a good many English-speaking people have seen it as well. — WiseKwai 16:18, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. Cannes is an extremely wide venue. Although, if you can name a foreign film that has never been translated into English and/or never had any type of English language release (be it theatrical, on tape, on DVD, etc.), and that film has an article on English Wikipedia, I'd be surprised. I have found many foreign films that meet these criteria, and none of them have English pages on this site. ask123 20:36, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Most Thai films in Thailand are released with English subtitles, which is helpful. And, you've got me - at this moment I can only think of Miss Suwanna of Siam as one of those mystery films. But it was silent, and made by Universal Pictures, so probably it had English title cards. So you've got me - I can't name "thousands" of films - though I was thinking primarily of Indian cinema, which produces tens of thousands of films per year, and has some active editors writing articles about them. But those, I guess would have English subs when they are eventually released to DVD, even if the release is only in India. At any rate, I've never seen the future tag applied the way you wanted to apply it here on Ploy. One of the notability guidelines for Wikipedia holds that a film must have had a general release in the country of its origin - a release is a release - there's nothing in the  tag or in the future-class for the talk-page  template that I can find that stipulates it should be applied to when it is released in English-speaking territories. It's as if the release in Thailand wasn't real. — WiseKwai 21:59, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No need for explanation, WiseKwai. By and large, I agree with you. Especially in this day in age with the world film festival circuit and global distribution (and translation) markets as pervasive as they are, there isn't much need for the tag. What you say makes sense. ask123 22:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
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