Talk:President of the Confederate States of America

message: Was Jefferson Davis elected in the manner described?  Also, has any anyone else, perhaps a leader of some fringe group, ever declared themselves "President of the Confederate States"?--Pharos 22:03, 2 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Davis election

message: Removed:
*The Confederacy did not indicate who succeeds to the office of President following the removal or death of both the President and Vice President. The constitution states that Congress will appoint an officer to act as President in such cases. In the United States, the Presidency is passed to the Speaker of the House of Representatives then a long list of other offices. 
This is the same as the US.  That "long list of other offices" is provided by a law passed by Congress according to the provisions of the US Constitution
CS Constitution 
:In case of the removal of the President from office, or of his death, resignation, or inability to discharge the powers and duties of said office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President; and the Congress may, by law, provide for the case of removal, death, resignation, or inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what officer shall then act as President; and such officer shall act accordingly until the disability be removed or a President shall be elected.
US Constitution 
:In Case of the Removal of the President from Office, or of his Death, Resignation, or Inability to discharge the Powers and Duties of the said Office, the same shall devolve on the Vice President, and the Congress may by Law provide for the Case of Removal, Death, Resignation or Inability, both of the President and Vice President, declaring what Officer shall then act as President, and such Officer shall act accordingly, until the Disability be removed, or a President shall be elected.
Only minor, unimportant, differences in wording, capitalization, and punctuation. -- Nik42 07:40, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a difference 

message: After the war, this innovation gained considerable popularity in the re-constituted Union, most notably being endorsed by Rutherford B. Hayes in his inaugural address.
Did this really gain greter popularity after the war than it had before?  The writers of the CS Constitution didn't come up with this from scratch, after all.  The idea had existed long before the Civil War, and had even been one proposal during the initial Constitutional Convention (along with such peculiar notions as a three-man presidency) -- Nik42 07:44, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Term limit 

message: According to their respective pages, Robert Woodward Barnwell and Howell Cobb were both "Heads of the Confederacy" at one point, and their pages point to Davis as their sucsessor. What exactly dose "Head of the Confederacy" mean in comparason to presidency? I think this article should reference them as leaders before the office of the president of the Confederate States was established. It should be noted that Barnwell's article states 
:"At the congress' first meeting on February 4, 1861, William P. Chilton moved that Barnwell be appointed to preside temporarily over the Congress until its permanent organization. The Congress approved that proposal, but later that day, Barnwell handed the presidency over to Howell Cobb, who was elected president. In that Congress, he cast the vote (February 9, 1861) that ensured the election of Jefferson Davis as the Confederate President,"
Wouldn't this technicaly make Davis the third president of the CSA?--ThrashedParanoid★ 03:21, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They are not included as presidents for the same reason men like Peyton Randolph and John Hancock are not included in the list of US presidents: They were only presiding officers of Congress, like the Speaker of the House, with little to no executive poweres. They were not heads of government or formed an executive branch of government, not until the Constitutional Office of the President had been created and adopted, leaving Jefferson Davis as the sole President of the Confederacy.--Supersexyspacemonkey 17:23, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jefferson Davis the ONLY president? 

message: Davis was Provisional President from February 18, 1861 to February 22, 1862. GoodDay (talk) 22:22, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Provisional President

message: This article has Davis listed as a member of the Democratic Party during his presidency, but the "1861 Confederate States of America Presidential Election" page has him listed as a non-partisan. Shouldn't these be coordinated to read the same for consistency's sake? As far as I know, the lack of opposition to the 'Democrats' made that label somewhat obsolete: Confederate Congressmen are generally classified based on their support of secession in relation to Lincoln's call for troops (before/after), so it seems logical that the Democratic party did not exist in the Confederacy, or at least was moot due to its near universiality.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.162.63.239 (talk) 20:44, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I have eliminated the references to the CSA having a party system -- there was no CSA Democratic Party. Tom (North Shoreman) (talk) 01:09, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Davis a Democrat? 

message: was the oath of office he took in 1861 as provisional president the same as he took under the constitution in 1862? Skippypeanuts (talk) 16:59, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: oath

message: Is a list with one single entry really useful? You would expect a list to be a collection of items (i.e. >1) 16:15, 23 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of presidents 

message: Date             	Event                                 	Location                                                      	Oath Administered by                         	Document Sworn On  	Inaugural Addresses                       	Notes
February 18, 1861	First inauguration of Jefferson Davis 	Front Portico of the Alabama State Capitol Montgomery, Alabama	Howell CobbPresident of the Congress         	Alabama State Bible	Jefferson Davis's First Inaugural Address 	Provisional President under Provisional Confederate States Constitution.
February 22, 1862	Second inauguration of Jefferson Davis	Near the Virginia Washington MonumentRichmond, Virginia       	James D. HalyburtonDistrict of Virginia Judge	Unknown            	Jefferson Davis's Second Inaugural Address	Inauguration under the permanent Constitution of the Confederate States of America.
:In 1861, Davis was inaugurated the Provisional President of the CSA. He wasn't inaugurated as President of the CSA, until 1862. GoodDay (talk) 00:28, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Confederate States presidential inauguration

message: I have moved the "Fictional Presidents of the Confederate States of America" section from Lists of fictional presidents of the United States to this article (and left behind a "see also" link to the information). I did this because the information—fictional CSA presidents—falls outside the parameters for inclusion established by the article's title. Drdpw (talk) 19:28, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess this article would be a better fit for the section. Too bad we don't have enough information to put it on its own article. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:29, 6 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Or maybe we do. I think a separate article for the fiction Confederate Presidents would make sense. I should probably ask to create an article instead or just making an article out-of-the-blue like I usually do, just to be on the safe side, of coarse. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:15, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, now I have created an article for those fictional presidents named the Fictional presidents of the Confederate States of America. --JCC the Alternate Historian (talk) 21:20, 5 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fictional presidents of the CSA 

message: Right now the article lists the date of Davis's arrest as the end of his term. However, de jure (under the Confederate Constitution) Davis's term would hvmave lasted until February 22, 1868. Shouldn't that be noted? Emperor001 (talk) 18:49, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really, because the Confederate presidency was abolished & with it, the rest of the six-year term. GoodDay (talk) 16:24, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Term of Office