Talk:Robert Jovicic

message: According to ABC news:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/02/23/2170552.htm
the Federal Government has granted permanent residency to Mr Jovicic.
Winterelf (talk) 21:15, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Permanent residency 

message: I appreciate the articel was discussed at an AfD and kept.  I appreciate there are lots of news references.  But I still do not feel he is notable.  What has changed as a result of his situation? --Matilda talk 07:33, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He's notable enough that he still makes headlines years after the initial event. His impact in the immigration debate is very substantial. That our immigration department would discard a lifelong resident into statelessness, to a country he'd never been to, where he couldn't work, reside, or even talk the language had a massive impact on our national psyche. It was particularly poignant in the context of the Howard Governments 'tough on immigration' policy which was forefront and very influential in their previous election campaigns. It caused not just the sacking of a minister, but a huge political blowout ensued which reverberates still to this day. This definitely contributed to the fall of Howards Liberal government. If the person doesn't qualify as notable, the events contained in this article certainly do, and the existing biographical format seems the best way to present that. Nazlfrag (talk) 18:32, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I find your arguments POV and do not believe they can be substantiated - for example that it contributed to the fall of the Howard government or the "sacking of a minister".  If it is about the events and not the person then the article should have some more useful title or be incorporated into a more general article eg Immigration history of Australia --Matilda talk 23:28, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a discussion page, not the main article - it is OK for arguments presented here to be POV and/or to be unsubstantiated. Otherwise they would be in the main article. Also, if all such cases were put into Immigration history of Australia it would become unreadable. There has to be a balance between generality and organization, but I've put links from Immigration history of Australia to some of these cases. Aarghdvaark (talk)  —Preceding undated comment was added at 06:39, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually I didn't as Immigration history of Australia is about immigration, not deportation, and I didn't want to start another page Deportation history of Australia! Aarghdvaark (talk) 06:47, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability 

message: is this the same robert(neb) jovicic that the australian securities investment commission keeps getting complaints about?.....livivng on the gold coast.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.72.195.88 (talk) 05:52, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Robert jovicic 

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