Talk:Frances Hodgson Burnett

message: I was very disappointed by all the links that did not exist yet. That needs to be addressed and corrected by Wikipedia to maintain interest and credibility in your site. I would not send a student to this site at the present time. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.234.199.32 (talk) 17:32, 17 January 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I'm just curious--in the text, her first husband was cited as Dr. Donovan Brisk and later there was a mention of divorcing Dr. Burnett. Were they they same person? If not, at what point was Burnett added to her name? 
Mary-Theresa 21:43, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  First husband's name 

message: Although I only really know of her from The Secret Garden and The Little Princess, is there any particular reason why Burnett gave them both connections to India? Did she ever travel there, or did she hear stories about India from a friend or family member? Or did she just have a random fascination with the country? Just a question I'd been wondering about for a while. Irish♣Pearl 20:29, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I always attributed it to the time period, with the British owning India at the time and more and more British people being born, living in, and writing about exotic, fanciful India.  A few searches later, I cannot find anything about her traveling there, although I think it would be unlikely since she mainly ferried between the US and UK.  It's always possible that she knew of someone who did visit there, of course, but who's to say?  Very interesting question, though, and it definitely pertains to the writer's source of inspiration.  I'll keep on the look-out.  :)  María (habla conmigo) 16:59, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reason for India? 

message: The article says "Following the death of her mother in 1872, 18 year old Frances found herself the head of a family of four younger siblings".  However, her birthdate is given at 1849, which would have made her about 23 if her mother died in 1872. Simhedges 16:26, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Age at Mother's Death

message: Any relation to William Hope Hodgson ?
New Babylon 2 (talk) 12:36, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hodgson 

message: But Burnett had nothing to do with computer insurance!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kayau (talk • contribs) 14:52, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: www.burnett.co.uk

message: An editor has removed the infobox from the article. I'm not sure that this is an improvement. I've already reverted one removal, and this removal at least reduces the image to a thumb. Opening up for discussion. Mjroots (talk) 14:09, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Check the edit history - I've taken a break from this page am not quite done but am preparing for GA. Temptlating regulars as you have on my page isn't the best way to start a conversation. In my mind, per WP:DISINFOBOX, the box is not necessary: Burnett was born in Manchester (England); moved at 16 to the US; liveed in Paris as a young woman with her husband & then Washington D.C; lived much of her life in both England and the US; became a US citizen late in life. Will the infobox tell us whether she's American or British? Will the infobox tell us whether her literature is American or British?  A great majority of the stories are set in England/ Europe and were written there. So, as you see it's quite confusing, and when it's confusing I prefer not to have an infobox. However I can, or anyone else, rewrite the lead with the pertinent facts to replace the infobox. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 14:16, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe it would be better to use  instead of ? Anyway, good luck with the GA. Mjroots (talk) 14:33, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO the box is not necessary...Modernist (talk) 14:36, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox

message: Her 1917 novel The White People is missing from the list of works.  It's here
   http://onlinebooks.library.upenn.edu/webbin/book/search?author=burnett%2C+frances&amode=words&title=&tmode=words
and here
   http://books.google.com/books/about/The_white_people.html?id=_94QAAAAYAAJ
among other places, but I'm not sure of the right way to reference and footnote when I add it, so maybe someone else should.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.192.33.140 (talk) 22:51, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Books missing from list of works 

message: This article vacillates between referring to its subject as Frances, Eliza, Hodgson, and Burnett, I suspect because it has been edited by multiple people. However it would clearly be more readable if it picked one or two forms to be used when a mononym is required. Although Burnett is her married name, it's the name under which FHB is typically alphabetized (eg at Project Gutenberg), so I propose using it in all contexts after she is married, even after she divorces Swan Burnett, since her later work continues to be published using Burnett. Previous to that, I favour either Frances or Hodgson since she is never cited as Frances Eliza Hodgson Burnett so I think "Eliza" is confusing to the casual reader (I'm guessing from its use at all that she may have been known as Eliza to her friends or in her youth perhaps? But a note to this effect would be sufficient). As no one has touched this talk page since 2012, I'm just going to go ahead and start trying to regularize. --Gretchenmcc (talk) 21:50, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Update: nevermind, on looking at it again the "Elizas" actually refer to her mother, so the name thing is fine, but clearly that's not totally evident so I tried to make that clearer. --Gretchenmcc (talk) 22:00, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I've done most of the heavy lifting here and typically use Frances because there are so many other surnames involved. It's bulky to refer to her as Hodgson-Burnett, her published name. I meant to use this as example for 's essay about writing about women, but I haven't gotten around to responding there. If consensus is to refer to her as Hodgson, I suppose we could do that but it doesn't follow WP:Commonname. Haven't a clue how the Elizas came in. I abandoned the article for lack of good sourcing, but it needs quite a lot of work still. Victoria (tk) 22:10, 7 March 2015 (UTC)

text: Struck about not knowing where the Eliza's came from. Yes, having decided to use "Frances" it seemed logical to me to use "Eliza" for her mother. I suppose we could refer to her mother as Hodgson but it gets confusing because her father was also Hodgson. Hence in situations like that I tend to use baptismal names for everyone. Victoria (tk) 22:46, 7 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, sorry about that, I think I just saw Frances and Eliza and Hodgson in the same paragraph and got confused, but then when I went to actually try to edit it I realize that the second two are actually the parents. I think Burnett is fine as that's what she gets alphabetized under. Maybe use her father's first name to create a parallel to her mother though? Also, I've been trying to add to the pages of FHB's works -- you're welcome to also add to those if you like! Notably the two that got republished relatively recently, The Shuttle (novel) and The Making of a Marchioness, which means there's at least enough information about them to make them no longer redlinks. --Gretchenmcc (talk) 07:14, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picking a single name to refer to FHB 

message: The four-paragraph lead includes a three-paragraph biographical summary -- too long, perhaps entirely unnecessary. --P64 (talk) 20:20, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead summary 

message: Hi  I noted your recent edit summary here,  and am curious what ORES is? I did most of the expansion to this article years ago but stopped because I didn't have access to some important sources. Some key sections are missing and the prose has never been polished, so who is predicting FA? Just curious. I've never seen that. Victoriaearle (tk) 20:27, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi ; that's a good question! Here's some info on ORES (Objective Revision Evaluation Service). And here's a link to the tool. The first step in asking ORES to predict the class rating of an article is to click on the "Permanent link" link (it's in the left column of the article). After clicking it just now, the url ends with:  809490329. If you paste 809490329 at the end of https://ores.wmflabs.org/v2/scores/enwiki/wp10/ (like so: https://ores.wmflabs.org/v2/scores/enwiki/wp10/809490329), you'll see what ORES predicts is the article rating. Now, we know that an article needs to go through a review process for GA and FA, so we can't unilaterally assign GA or FA for the class rating, but we can rate it as high as B in this case. Note, too, that ORES is based on formulas and is imperfect. Seasoned editors may be better predictors of a class rating, buut it can be helpful to see what a tool predicts. Quite frankly, I use it all the time. Hope this helps? --Rosiestep (talk) 20:41, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh. Interesting. Thanks so much! The issue here is that there's a biography I never bothered to buy, could only get limited views of pages on g-books, but it really needs to be used to flesh out the detail. Most of the article uses only a couple of sources, so it's not comprehensive. Also it needs a writing style and themes section (requires research!) and then lots of prose work. But, yeah, B is probably about right. I'm not sure about GA without the missing sections, and definitely not FA. Victoriaearle (tk) 20:48, 9 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Who is ORES

message: The article linked in this article spells his surname "TownEsend", with a note stating " His second name has also been cited as Townsend"; in the interest of apparent accuracy, then, this article ought to give "TownEsend" in each case, surely, given that was apparently the man's actual name?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.24.232.230 (talk) 17:34, 22 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Second husband's surname