Talk:List of Omnitrix aliens/Archive 2

message: Not so long ago, I got to see an episode that I missed, the episode with the little hypnotist Sublimino. I noticed that when Ben went Wildvine after snapping out of the trance, Sublimino attempted to order him around. Now, did this not work because Sublimino was assuming Wildvine was already under his control and not actively hypnotizing, or was it due to some plant characteristic of Wildvine that makes him immune to hypnosis? Or, possibly, does Sublimino's invention not work on plants? Magugag 06:02, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Like you said, Ben went Wildvine after snapping out of the trance. Sublimino never got a chance to hypnotize him since then. I personally think that Wildvine has a mind that is more affinite to plants and fungi than to humans (hence why the Fungal Brain could communicate with him as Wildvine but did not communicate with Max or human Ben), but unless that's confirmed, it can't go on. You Can't See Me! 20:23, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point! Hopefully the main site will have more to say about Wildvine and other aliens soon enough, but for now, yeah, I'll agree it's probably best to leave that out. Magugag 22:10, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wildvine Advantage 

message: I've noticed that the section on the Mummy Alien keeps changing at a rate that strikes me as abnormal even for Wikipedia.  For one thing, sometimes the picture is of the alien itself and other times it shows the Omnitrix downloading it.  And this morning for a minute it was identified as "Jewel Chest."  I'm guessing there is some sort of a back-and-forth going on between two users, so I'm just gonna ask them one thing: WILL YOU MAKE UP YOUR MINDS?!  Thank you.  Ben 10 13:30, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no minds to make up. Or, rather, a better way is to say that this character does not yet have an official name. If you go back a few months, this same sort of thing went on with Wildvine too (although Wildvine's was answered fairly quickly). Without an offical name, we can only call it "Unnamed mummy alien". Anything else would be pure speculation, which is unbecoming of an encyclopedia. --DarkfireTaimatsu 18:27, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But how can we make people understand this? It seems that if you want to make the name "Unnamed mummy alien" stick you have to get into an edit war with those who favour "Rahotep". -- Lilwik 03:49, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

text: You could look through the history for that answer. --DarkfireTaimatsu 21:22, 25 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I'd say not, since it's somewhat confirmed in the show. As long as the show (or certain official merchandise) mentions it, I don't think it counts as speculation. (Well, technically, it is speculation, but it's still within the show. At any rate, it should be fine.) --DarkfireTaimatsu 18:33, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK.  I made a note of it, but someone deleted it.  I'll try again.  BTW, concerning the two pics of the Mummy Alien, I like them both.  Maybe both of them should be in the article.  What do you think?  -- Ben 10 22:25, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, exactly. Also, I checked the credits when "Under Wraps" aired. There was no listing. --DarkfireTaimatsu 20:08, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Both the mummy and supposed Frankenstein aliens have been given unsourced, Ben-based names...so nether of them have an actual name yet. -Sukecchi 14:59, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ONly the mummy has a name, and had you paid attention to the ending credits you wouldn't be complaining. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 15:02, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm not complaining, and I did not see the credits, I went back to my computer once it ended and forgot about the credits, but I was too late to see the cast. Forgive me. -Sukecchi 15:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: More of a reply to Sunspot than you. Should have indented one less. You stopped after one attempt. He needed to be told directly after more than six. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 15:20, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mummy Alien 

message: Where do the species names of the aliens like "Pyronite", "Kineceleran", or "Loboan" come from? I don't remember tham ever saying any of these in the series.
From the toy profiles, which detail the homeworlds and species of the Omnitrix's aliens. --160.36.193.238 20:30, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This should definitely be listed as a reference. The point of attributions is so that people won't have to ask this sort of thing. -- Lilwik 04:45, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

text: The point of attributions is also that people look at them. As they have not bothered to scroll to the bottom of the page listing the source, it really doesn't help to list it again. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 05:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names 

message: Has anyone ever noticed that when Ben is in an outfit other than his black and white one when he goes alien the alien's outfit is still the black and white one. One example in the episode The Krakken and he's wearing trunks yet when he tranforms to Fourarms he's still wearing the black and white outfit. I just want to know if this is a goof or something else. --Darkhero31 14:27, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Somewhere it said that the omnitrix adapt to a person style and clothing. So I guess it adapted to "Ben's style" so it went to the black and white clothing. Plus they proabaly couldn't show Fourarms without a shirt. Or he's an alien so he might have a funky looking chest, so instead of making it complicated the artist just made him in his regular outfit. Sunspot13 15:35, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We've seen the Omnitrix adapt the aliens' appearance in three instances. The first was in the alternate reality episode, in which Gwen gained the Omnitrix instead of Ben. In that episode, any aliens that wore clothing had clothing adapted from Gwen's. This is what started the theory in the first place. The second time we saw a change in appearance was in Ben 10,000. Ben had aged, the Omnitrix aliens had aged, the clothing was all different, and even the Omnitrix itself looked different. The third was when virtual reality forms of some of the aliens were seen within the Sumo Slammers game world, addopting clothing more in line with the game, rather than based on the clothing Ben seemed to be wearing. I don't think, from the observation of these episodes and the rest of the series (in which Ben is seen in different clothing, but the aliens appear the same), that the Omnitrix addapts currently worn clothing at all. It only appears to adapt the clothing that the user was wearing at the time the Omnitrix bonded to them. This fits in line with the change in Gwen's alien appearances and with the rest of the series, in which they always appear the same for Ben. It isn't necessarily contradicted by Ben 10,000, as we've already seen the Omnitrix removed from Ben and rebonded once, and Ben was wearing his typical clothing again in the second bonding. The different appearance of the Omnitrix in Ben 10,000 could indicated any number of possibilities, up to and including that it's a different Omnitrix altogether. Everything that happened within the Sumo Slammers virtual world is an anomaly, begining with the need to reaquire each alien separately as a "power-up". Angel the Techrat 17:19, 1 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Regarding the episode "Grudge Match," are you referring to the Pyronite (Heatblast) or the picture that was shown of a Galvanic Mechamorph (Upgrade)?  Because in both cases, the aliens in question do not wear any clothes.  In Heatblast's case, they would burn right off, and in Upgrade's case, they are kind of pointless because Upgrade's species is made up of nano-robots, which are obviously not gender-specific.  Ben 10 13:27, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outfits 

message: Who's the one who put the Frankenstein alien on? It's not confirmed yet, as far as I know. 68.249.99.139 23:10, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the edit summary somewhere, it aired in the UK, but that can hardly be confirmed over on this side of the pond. We'll just wait and see, eh? --DarkfireTaimatsu 03:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)

text: If they do make him a "Benalien", it better be "FrankenBen" and break the pattern, and not "Benstein". (In all seriousness, we'll just have to see, eh?) --DarkfireTaimatsu 03:33, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

text: You could just wait 3 days to confirm it yourself. --DarkfireTaimatsu 22:00, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone deleted it (and no it wasn't me) because Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.  We can't say that he gets absorbed until it's been confirmed.  And I think that guy is just a freak, but I'm not sure whether or not that would stop Ben from absorbing him.  My best guess is that the only things Ben can't download are things without any DNA or things with DNA too similar to DNA already in the Omnitrix.  That means, for example, that Ben can't download a robot or an extra Tetramand or Petrosapien.  I'll bet he could even absorb Earth creatures with it, since they're aliens to aliens anyway.  When you come right down to it, DNA is DNA.  Ben 10 23:43, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

text: From the credits, I assume. (Haven't gotten a chance to watch my tape myself, but I trust it anyway.) --DarkfireTaimatsu 20:13, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I was wondering about Benvicktor's ability that was seemed to be forgoten. In the episode "Be Afraid of the Dark" Dr. Vicktor had strapped himself to a rocket engine and was able to control the engine's power. He did the same with the black-hole cannon while fighting Ben in space. I have come to assume that because the Omnitrix absorbs all of and aliens powers that it contacts, (as noted in the "Omnitrix" article) that Ben's new alien, known as Benvicktor, should have the same ability. Please correct me if this is incorrect. Billybobbyson 16:16, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Frankenstein-esque alien? 

message: Okay. All the anons seem put off by Benmummy's apparent lack of weaknesses and try to BS something into that section. So, Benmummy's profile states that Ben had no control over it when he borrowed its form. I didn't see the episode, so I don't know the context. But that seems like a very big weakness to me. Can someone elaborate on what "no control" really means, just to be safe? You Can't See Me! 00:18, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He couldn't control it at first, but quickly picked up on it. Not a weakness. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 00:24, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, never mind then. You Can't See Me! 00:27, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could the fact that many enemies seem to have no issues breaking his bandages be a weakness? Watching both the enemy in action and Ben's first use of the form, it seems like some can just sorta shrug and break them off. Magugag 06:06, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Benmummy's weakness. 

message: What's with the sudden, unconventional name change? It looks really odd... --DarkfireTaimatsu 17:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is what happens when clueless newbies experiment and inexperienced users attempt to correct them. Omnitrix is an edited redirect now, so it has to be cleared for the revert move. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 17:34, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, I see. I hope it gets corrected soon. --DarkfireTaimatsu 17:39, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Name Change 

message: This section keeps changing to say that the orginal Mummy Alien is mute, yet I'm pretty sure I heard it speak in Be Afraid of the Dark when it is in the spaceship? Wild ste 13:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That episode aired again today, and I didn't catch it saying anything. In what part of the episode did you supposedly hear it speak? You Can't See Me! 20:47, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I second this. The only time it even remotely appears to be speaking is just before Gwen goes makeshift Cannonbolt on it. Grandpa Max's voice is distorted so it sounds like the mummy is speaking. — Someguy0830 (T | C) 20:52, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Watching it right now. No Mummy talking. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.38.38.72 (talk) 20:14, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, he does kinda make a distorted and quiet wheezing noise, but not talking. Magugag 23:25, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mummy Alien Talking?