Talk:Perilla (culinary)

message: This here kibotext says there are Japanese pickled perilla buds/blossoms (as opposed to leaves or seed), and that leaves are called ohba (is this the article's aoba?). More interestingly, it says:
:"I'm told cows won't eat wild perilla, and Asian workers who harvest perilla often get dermatitis from it."
Can anybody confirm this? – Wikipeditor 22:33, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I really doubt it. My mum recently picked a lot of perilla, but her hands are fine. You could say Korean perilla could might be different from Japanese perilla — a friend of mine who has lived in both Korea and Japan tells me they taste totally different — but I doubt it would be consumed in Japan if it can cause apparent health problems. --Kjoonlee 16:30, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Right. If it irritated your hand, it would irritate your mouth as well. Besides, I notice the chemistry section already informs the reader about the bovine consumption issue. Wikipeditor 16:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Can skin contact with perilla cause dermatitis?

message: I have an additional photo available, showing growth form.  It is included here, feel free to add to the article if useful.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 15:23, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional photo 

message: I'm afraid we need the help of an expert to insert a list of species into the article:
The commercial vendor  and the pop-up menu at  list many species,  lists "Perilla arguta; Perilla frutescens; Perilla fruticosa; Perilla nankinensis; Perilla ocimoides" and hort.purdue.edu says "[Apart from Perilla frutescens (L.) Britton, t]hree other Perilla species are recognized by some authorities, but the distinctions are ambiguous, and a taxonomic revision is needed." :( Wikipeditor 16:22, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Species 

message: I think there needs to be a source on "it is also known to cause disruption of lung and cancer". That's a pretty egregious claim
:Agreed.  I removed it pending a reference.  --ChrisRuvolo (t) 11:38, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please go ahead and make any changes you think appropriate. The Hangul was first presented in this article with kkaennip as the Romanization. It safe to say that most (but not all) people who have edited this article have little knowledge of Korean and aren't able to catch errors of this kind. If you know Korean, please fix it.Plantdrew (talk) 16:04, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No, actually "kkaennip" is the correct Romanization that reflects the correct sound.  In Korean, when a compound word is formed when the second word starts with /i/ (ㅣ) sound (or the /j/ semivowel), sometimes the /n/ sound is inserted in the middle.  (And confusingly it is sometimes denoted by the "ㅅ" character, as is the case here.)  E.g., 나뭇잎 namunnip, 앞니 (<- 앞 + 이) amni, 한여름 hannyeoreum (note that n became nn) or the 학여울 subway station in Seoul which is written as Hangnyeoul.  24.6.173.129 (talk) 21:55, 17 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Korea 

message: This is completely different from kemangi, which is Lemon basil. I don't know if Perilla is common in Indonesia at all.
: Agreed, I can't find any sources on the net asserting that selasih/kemangi is perilla, and I've never seen perilla in Indonesia (outside Japanese restaurants!).  I've removed it. Jpatokal (talk) 04:47, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indonesia 

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thread_title: [[WP:FOOD|WikiProject Food and drink]] Tagging

message: I was reading a blog about Korean cooking (maangchi.com) where she refers to shiso in "kkaen nip jang ah jji" as "sesame leaves." At first I was confused, because I grow sesame as a midsummer cover crop in my garden, and sesame leaves look nothing like her pictures! So after a search, I learned kkaennip is actually shiso. Is the translation as "sesame leaves" common in the Korean community? If so, it could be listed with the other misnomers in the lead paragraph. 24.250.232.53 (talk) 05:54, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  AKA "sesame leaves" 

message: I'm sorting out interwiki links between this perilla-related articles across wikis:
* articles about genus Perilla
* articles about species Perilla frutescens
* articles about subspecies Perilla frutescens var. japonica known as 들깨(deulggae) in Korea and エゴマ(egoma) in Japan
* articles about subspecies Perilla frutescens var. crispa known in Japan as シソ(shiso) and 소엽(soyeop) in Korea
My bot's removals of some interwiki links[][] seem inappropriate at first, but the deleted links are about the genus Perilla -- they're about single species or subspeices belonging to Perilla, which makes them inequivalent to be linked each other. (Should've done it manually at the first time though.)
--Puzzlet Chung (talk) 10:30, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  On interwiki links 

message: I retooled this page into  "Perilla (herb & spices)" type page. That was mostly what is about anyway.  Leave to others if name change is in order. </br>
Hopefully with this implemented change, contributors will revise the genus page, species page, or herb-related page as relevant, avoiding the mix up.</br> 
I set up a Perilla (genus) page separately. The /*Chemistry*/ section as it existed from here to the Perilla (genus) page and documented the revision histories, and the one here was made slimmer(?), less techie. May eventually get around to improving shiso article, spun off as a stub--Kiyoweap (talk) 22:38, 1 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Retooled the page into an herbs & spices or food page 

message: Reason: Wikipedia naming custom on monotypic genera
* Suggested by:Plantdrew
** It seems like no one disagrees on this merge. Let's get it done! --Diospireiro (talk) 14:04, 3 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Perilla (genus) + Perilla frutescens (species) → Perilla frutescens (genus and species)''