Talk:John Derbyshire

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He's a self described racist and homophobe? Hmm, well this sentence is in the wrong place and goes against Wikipedia's NPOV policy. These accusations are placed too early in the lead paragraph, and give the impression of bias and point of view of the writers. It would be correct to say there is a controversy surrounding his articles in about homophobia and racism, though these are not neutral terms. The words racism and homophobia are politically charged, that is an accusation of racism or homophobia is a way to shut down debate and silence right wing ideas. Also there is no room here given to the nuances of debate. Basically, NPOV needs to be followed. This is Wikipedia not Socialist Workers Magazine. PS scandal is a weapon. You lazy reporters should uncover why the scandal is happening rather than repeat homophobia & racism left wing loaded terms a thousand times like the sheople that you are.
:If he describes himself as a racist and a homophobe ("I am a homophobe, though a mild and tolerant one, and a racist, though an even more mild and tolerant one, and those things are going to be illegal pretty soon, the way we are going" , reporting the fact is hardly a violation of NPOV - one has to assume he expected a response. As for the rest, read WP:NOTFORUM - and what 'scandal' are you referring to anyway? AndyTheGrump (talk) 01:42, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Self-identifications are informative and not counter to NPOV. That the self-identification is normally something one would find offensive is not a valid criticism; it is what someone is, just as much as someone who is a documented criminal or Ku Klux Klan leader can be described as such despite that normally being an auto-delete. The rest of this rant is counter WP:NOTFORUM and has nothing to do with whether the verified sentence should stay. 96.42.45.39 (talk) 16:31, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

text: He's using the word homophobe in a knowing, tongue in cheek way. Of course, there is no such thing as homophobia, which is a politically charged word that is used by the left to silence the rational right. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.0.127.244 (talk) 18:39, 12 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Homophobia is real enough. Ask any gay man who's heard "queers should be shot" in Tennessee thousands of time, bucko. 50.153.132.0 (talk) 10:36, 30 May 2015 (UTC)
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message: The section Comments on race and multiculturalism has a sentence that uses the phrase "race realist gathering". The phrase "race realist" is used exclusively as a self descriptor and is a breach of WP:EUPHEMISM and WP:EDITORIAL. Clearly it needs to be replaced, but needs to done so in WP:NPOV language. Autarch (talk) 21:14, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
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message: John Derbyshire does not identify as a White Supremacist so we should restrain ourselves from giving him that label. It would be better to simply discus his positive, controversial comments about white Europeans, when they are significant. See WP:QUOTE
No where in the quotation from VDARE does he claim to be a White Supremacist, and claiming so requires overinterpretation of what he actually said. Just as flattering communism does not make one a communist, or flattering the Enlightenment does not make one a liberal--we should be slow to fall into the trap of overinterpreting flattery. Furthermore, he is explicitly not identifying as a white supremacist, 
"leaving aside the intended malice" but suggesting there is merit to the literal, uncommon semantics of the term, outside it's normal usage.
Just use quotes if you think these comments are significant, or we sound slanderous. By starting the article out by calling him a White Supremacist we are violating NPOV. SammyRB (talk) 00:05, 10 January 2024 (UTC)
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