Talk:Seven fires prophecy

message: I do not dare to doubt that this subject is notable, since I am not a subject-matter expert. However, the article does not cite independent sources. This is required, however, for meeting the notability criteria of Wikipedia. 
Please add independent reliable sources to the article. (The web sites  given are not undoubtably independent, so they do not suffice.) These sources can be, but need not be, available online; you might as well cite books on Algonquian culture, or newspaper/magazine articles, or any other third-party publication where the subject is mentioned.
For the time being, I am removing the "importance" tag and replacing it with "notability".
Sorted as part of the Notability Wikiproject --B. Wolterding 18:08, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability 

message: First, second section states: ". . . .it would be so much better if a knowledgeable midew who can also find appropriate citation could expand the article without devulging the finer mysteries of this series of prophecies." [ed: bold added for emphasis].  I am simply curious why an 'encyclopedia' would withhold information central to the subject matter.
PLACE TO FIND CITES:   I once did an independent project on Native American time keeping systems.  I had access to a data base very much like PubMed for science, and ERIC for education, only this one was for Cultural Anthro and contained ERIC-like cites: both peer-reviewed, and so-called 'fugitive' literature, along with photo-copies of journal entries on a topic (from both lay and professional people).  An example of a Layperson entry might be a diary entry by a pioneer that mentions a particular event or belief that was witnessed or explained to them, a 'Professional' entry might be by a govenment "Indian Agent" in a journal, or notes taken by an early cultural anthropologist or sociologist about a formal interview, or informal conversation with an informant.  And I guess you could also say that there were 'para-professional' entries as well, notes made by 'trading post' owners or physicians who tended individuals or tribal areas, etc.
For the life of me, I spent about 6-8 months living in a room with the card-file of microfiche (about half the size of ERIC) and I can't recall what it is called.  At the time I had been given the name, asked the Librarian where it was, and from then on simply went into that room, and pulled cards and chased leads through the stacks -- but never learned the name well enough to recall it 40+ years later. 
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PERHAPS SOMEONE COULD POST THE NAME OF THE INDEX? -- and state if it's useable on-line or has on-line access, and if there's a fee - what that fee is for being able to read more than the Abstract.
thanks. Pgalioni (talk) 19:20, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Unpublished, primary documents are not good sources for Wikipedia, as per WP:SOURCES; stick to "reliable, third-party, published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy." The Saginaw Chippewa museum is designed completely around the concept of the Seven Fire prophecy, so there is adequate information that is available to the public for the article. -Uyvsdi (talk) 22:33, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  A PLACE FOR CITES -- AND A STRANGE LIMIT SET 

message: Here's some personal commentary that I removed from the main article space. -Uyvsdi (talk) 18:30, 22 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal commentary