Talk:CETME

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Shouldn't this article just be about the company CETME?  It looks like this may have have started out as an article on the 7.62x51mm rifles, and then everything else was tacked on about the company's other products.  Let's break out the specifics on the Modelo A, B, C, D, and E into a separate article.  D.E. Watters 23:26, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this seems rather confusing. This should focus only on the institution instead of going into detail about their firearms. Koalorka (talk) 04:50, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I plan on starting a page dedicated to the 7.62mm series of battle rifles starting with the Model A. I have no idea what to name it.... "CETME rifle" seemed suitable until I realized the Model L is also a rifle, but has little in common with its bigger brother. I need some input. Koalorka (talk) 21:36, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For the 7.62mm rifle artricle, how about calling it the "CETME Model 58"?  --D.E. Watters (talk) 00:49, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's an obscure Spanish service name. I think the commercial model names would be more suitable, say, "CETME Model A". But I think that may be too specific. Hmmm.. Koalorka (talk) 05:09, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: How about "CETME Model C" since that was the definitive Spanish service model and the basis for the exported sporting rifles? --D.E. Watters (talk) 13:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: But that ignores the previous models. I'm still partial to "CETME Model A" with a series of disambiguation pages linking to the core variant. I typically emphasize the weapon's historical development. Koalorka (talk) 14:05, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You can give it the most common name without ignoring the development history of the preceding models.  For instance, the "Sterling SMG" article isn't named the "Patchett SMG" despite the latter being the original name for the design.  Simply add redirects from the other model names.  --D.E. Watters (talk) 16:07, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Yes, I understand, we will have to compromise somewhere for practical reasons. I would still prefer an all-encompassing name, perhaps "CETME battle rifle"? It distinguishes the 7.62mm guns from the later Model L. Koalorka (talk) 17:28, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Any comments before I proceed? Koalorka (talk) 15:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that the procedure has been proceeded with, this article has gone from informative to utter crap.  Not a good edit. 15:31 20 October 2009.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.54.167.166 (talk) 20:37, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
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message: Shouldn't this article just be about the company CETME?  It looks like this may have have started out as an article on the 7.62x51mm rifles, and then everything else was tacked on about the company's other products.  Let's break out the specifics on the Modelo A, B, C, D, and E into a separate article.  D.E. Watters 23:26, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this seems rather confusing. This should focus only on the institution instead of going into detail about their firearms. Koalorka (talk) 04:50, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I plan on starting a page dedicated to the 7.62mm series of battle rifles starting with the Model A. I have no idea what to name it.... "CETME rifle" seemed suitable until I realized the Model L is also a rifle, but has little in common with its bigger brother. I need some input. Koalorka (talk) 21:36, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For the 7.62mm rifle artricle, how about calling it the "CETME Model 58"?  --D.E. Watters (talk) 00:49, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's an obscure Spanish service name. I think the commercial model names would be more suitable, say, "CETME Model A". But I think that may be too specific. Hmmm.. Koalorka (talk) 05:09, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: How about "CETME Model C" since that was the definitive Spanish service model and the basis for the exported sporting rifles? --D.E. Watters (talk) 13:23, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: But that ignores the previous models. I'm still partial to "CETME Model A" with a series of disambiguation pages linking to the core variant. I typically emphasize the weapon's historical development. Koalorka (talk) 14:05, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You can give it the most common name without ignoring the development history of the preceding models.  For instance, the "Sterling SMG" article isn't named the "Patchett SMG" despite the latter being the original name for the design.  Simply add redirects from the other model names.  --D.E. Watters (talk) 16:07, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Yes, I understand, we will have to compromise somewhere for practical reasons. I would still prefer an all-encompassing name, perhaps "CETME battle rifle"? It distinguishes the 7.62mm guns from the later Model L. Koalorka (talk) 17:28, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Any comments before I proceed? Koalorka (talk) 15:06, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that the procedure has been proceeded with, this article has gone from informative to utter crap.  Not a good edit. 15:31 20 October 2009.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.54.167.166 (talk) 20:37, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
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