Talk:Sawan Singh

message: why "hinduism" portal? Baba Sawan Singh was born in a Sikh family and then he followed a Radhasoami Master... nothing about Hinduism! --GurDass (talk) 05:50, 19 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: removed hindu stub --GurDass (talk) 08:54, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
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message: Nearly all Sant Mat masters are known with other names than their given name. That these names are titles is a mute point. For example Seth Shiv Dayal Singh Ji is more commonly known and referred to as Soami Ji , Shiv Brat Lal Verman is more commonly known and referred to as as Data Dayal, etc., etc. Some, but not all have titles, that is correct. The point at issue here is whether they are commonly known or referred to by any other name.
In this case, most people in English DO refer to Baba Sawan Singh by saying "the Great master". E.g 'the Great master said this, the Great master was the father of', etc., etc. People do also say Huzur Maharaj Sawan Singh. And THAT is a title. But as it is one that also applies to other RS gurus, such as Saligram, Maharaj Charan Singh and others, we wouldn't put that in the section 'other names' as it is not exclusively applied to them. 
I hope you will agree that only one Guru in the RS lineage is commonly - and almost exclusively - refered to with the name in English of The Great master. Two are known in Indian language as Bade Maharaji. 
Please discuss as previously requested. Let's not edit war about this. Instead can you explain what is your problem with including these 'other names' in the info box? Especially when the very first sentence of the article confirms that this information is correct?--Mystichumwipe (talk) 13:00, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  do you have a source to claim that "great master" is some name only used to Baba Sawan Singh and nobody else? --GurDass (talk) 14:28, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  No and we don't need one as "only" is not really the main issue. I can provide many sources that "great master" is the name commonly used within the RS Beas derived sangats for Baba Sawan Singh in the English language. Q1. Do you doubt this to be true? Q2. can you explain what is your problem with including these 'other names' in the info box? Q3. do you have a problem with the very first sentence of the article which also states this information?--Mystichumwipe (talk) 08:52, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  i don't have any problem, it just don't seems to me a "name" in strict sense of the word... let's do as you want --GurDass (talk) 11:39, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree it is not so much a name. But it is an alias used. And that is exactly what the part of the infobox is about: any aliases. The following book titles demonstrate that this was the alias/other name used to refer to him in English: "Glimpses of the Great Master", "Call of the Great master". So this isn't so much what I want, but is just keeping this wiki page in accordance with the article itself, with the existing RS literature, and the actuality of usage both in his lifetime and still now.--Mystichumwipe (talk) 08:59, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other names 

message: Baba Sawan Singh Ji Maharaj was born 20 July 1858, not a 27 July 1858. Please replace 27 July 1858 with 20 July 1858. 2409:4055:30C:76AF:3903:4B8D:CD49:3045 (talk) 10:46, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: You need to provide evidence in the form of reliable source to request a change of date of birth. Venkat TL (talk) 15:58, 3 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baba Sawan Singh Ji Maharaj date of birth.