Talk:Robert Capa

message: The references I put here prove that the photo was staged. Combats in Espejo, where the photos were taken (see graphical demonstration http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1201116/How-Capas-camera-does-lie-The-photographic-proof-iconic-Falling-Soldier-image-staged.html ), took place the days 22-25 of September, but the photo was made public about 25th of September in France (I don't know exact date). Combats in Cerro Muriano ended the 5th of September. So it's clear that it was staged.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.38.233.74 (talk) 17:28, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Edit: The photo was published the 23th of September, in Vu magazine.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.38.233.74 (talk) 17:33, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That does seem rather convincing, doesn't it? Still, not sure it meets authoritative standards? Anyone? Rwintle (talk) 17:23, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Fake proven: location 30 miles from the fighting 

message: i miss some information on Capa's left wing attitudes. he deeply disliked capitalism and of course fascism. iirc he was a militant in his youth and he continued his work with some perspectives of a better & peaceful & socialist world. however interesting the angle-of-the-sun might be, we could do greater justice to the man in remembering his dreams and what he lived for.
Sinzov 07:37, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Capa's political believes 

message: I'm watching a documentary on TV right now - they say he was actually born in Paris, France, but grew up in Budapest, Hungary.
According to his brother, Cornell Capa, "Endre Erno Friedmann was born on October 22, 1913 in Budapest."  Also, the most recent bio of Capa, "Blood and Champagne," states that Capa was born Endre Friedmann in Budapest, Hungary, in 1913.  See also, "The Great Escape:  Nine Jews Who Fled Hitler and Changed the World."  Same date and place of birth.
Capa did eventually live in Paris, but as an adult.  What is the documentary which gave his birthplace as Paris?
The documentary, "The Mexican Suitcase" indicated that he was born in Hungary.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lizconno (talk • contribs) 07:24, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Born in Hungary? 

message: The book "The Great Escape:  Nine Jews Who Fled Hitler and Changed the World." by Kati Marton has information regarding Capa's birth, time in Paris, and relationships with Gerda Pohorylle and Ingrid Bergman. Maybe someone with the book in hand can add the references? I would do it, but I do not have have a copy of the book at present.--Ggeller (talk) 20:08, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Life references source 

message: Do we know who laid the mine which accounted for his death? Drutt (talk) 18:03, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Mine

message: The references cited 11 frames, and pointed to Capa's own book "Slightly Out of Focus" on Page 151.  On this page he references 8 saved frames, not 11.  There has been some conjecture on this, as other sources have reported 10 or 11 frames.  These sources could be added, and the section could be revised.  Peter Howe writes on page 21 in "Shooting Under Fire" () 10 frames were saved, this is one source that could be used to update the total.
Sean Leslie (talk) 17:02, 22 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adjustment to Historical Accuracy of the Number of Frames Saved from D-Day. 

message: Has some, but very few facts, interesting, but does not have 1 thing to say about the question of the fake-death-picture. Left-wingers obviously simply cannot believe, that they have been played for suckers to further Capa's career.--Radh (talk) 06:27, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Independent article 

message: Cillian Murphys character in Danny Boyle's Sunshine was named Robert Capa  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.32.23.165 (talk) 02:08, 11 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this worth anything 

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message: In the section Spanish Civil War and Chinese resistance to Japan, second paragraph it is stated that In 1936, Capa became known across the globe for the "Falling Soldier" photo, and later Capa remained conspicuously unwilling to discuss The Falling Soldier, which was published shortly after Taro's death.
The article about Gerda Taro states that she died on July 26th, 1937.
It should probably say In 1937, Capa became known..., or was the picture really published in 1936 when Taro was still alive?
--Fpainke (talk) 09:07, 6 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the "Falling soldier" 

message: Parts of this seems to be at odds with the Wikipedia entry on Gerda Taro, which goes into some detail about how "Robert Capa" was a fictional American character, invented to sell both of their photos. It also describes which "Capa"-photos she took, and which were Friedman's. Either the sources for this article on Friedman are not trustworthy, or the sources on Taro, as these two versions can't both be true. --Ronja R (talk) 02:42, 3 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: The "Career" chapter

message: It's funny, the only photo shown in this article on Robert Capa is NOT a photo by Robert Capa! Indeed, the picture of the suicide of Dr. Lisso and his family shown here was shot by J. Malan Heslop, from the United States Army Signal Corps. Read the caption of the photo here: http://worldwar2database.com/gallery/wwii1003
It's also funny that in the References of the photo it's written: "Author: United States Army Signal Corps", which is only half the truth, since the name of the photographer is not revealed in the References. 
Other well known photos of this suicide scene were taken by Margaret Bourke-White, for LIFE Magazine, and by Lee Miller. The photographer David Edward Scherman, from LIFE Magazine, also took pictures of the scene, but they are not known. Robert Capa simply didn't photograph this scene. And, by the way, Capa didn't work for the U.S. Army Signal Corps! 
So please somebody delete this picture!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by JBarreto (talk • contribs) 18:22, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The photo of the suicide of Dr. Lisso, Leipzig, April 1945 

message: The article has been incorrectly reverted to "first wave", now in fact in two places, as well as another Wikipedia article now ("the Magnificent Eleven) even though it has become even more clear in the eight years since this discussion that Capa was in the second wave. moreover the citations being used to state first wave are citations like decidedly non-expert blurbs in Time Magazine pieces just repeating Capa's incorrect claim.
We know exactly what landing craft he was on, what bech he landed on and what time. It was second wave:
http://www.nationalww2museum.org/learn/education/for-students/ww2-history/d-day-june-6-1944.html (just search text "Robert capa")Explainador (talk) 03:48, 6 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Since the other source stated "first wave," I just eliminated mention of which wave he was with. Both sources are given. --Light show (talk) 08:00, 12 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: All the recent work shows he was in Second D-Day wave

message: Eisenhower wasn't President in 1947 as this article states.  Tlazarewicz (talk) 03:41, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct, of course.  Capa was presented (not awarded) the Medal of Freedom by Eisenhower in his capacity as Chief of Staff of the Army at that time.  Capa was awarded the Medal of Freedom by the Secretary of War, who was one of the officials authorized to approve its award. 73.235.236.46 (talk) 19:09, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  1947 President of USA  

message: This is clearly a point of view issue as it merely repeats marketing hype generated by LIFE and Capa.  There were a good number of other photographers on Omaha Beach on D-Day, it's just that they were in the military.
Eighteen men of the 165th Signal Photo Company landed on Omaha Beach on D-Day, primarily from Detachments L, D and P (the last attached from the 290th Signal Photo Company).  Det L covered the 16th Regimental Combat Team; Det P covered the 5th Engineer Special Brigade and Det L covered V Corps troops - all landed on Omaha Beach on D-Day.  Most carried both still and motion picture cameras.  In fact, the first photographer that landed on Omaha Beach on 6 June was in Detachment L, 165th Signal Photo Company.  He landed roughly an hour before Capa did, though both were covering the 16th Regimental Combat Team.  SGT Taylor, another member of Det L landed on Fox Green and several of his films are online.  Though military policy did not permit military photographers to get byline credit, Taylor's raw products can be identified by his slate board at the beginning of his clips.  Two other members of Det L landed 15 minutes after Capa on the same stretch of beach.
In addition, the company commander, CPT Herman Wall also landed that morning, about 2 hours after Capa and a bit farther west, and his (uncredited) photos are quite common.  Wall had two distinctions.  Using carrier pigeons, he dispatched film from the approach to the beach, which arrived in the UK before any other film.  Later that morning, he was severely wounded on Omaha Beach, and was evacuated with his camera gear.  After undergoing amputation of part of his leg, he arrived in Weymouth with the film he shot on the beach.  His was the first film back to London from Omaha Beach, beating both Brandt (who never set foot ashore) and Capa.  Source:  Technical Services, US Army in WWII
SGT Peter Paris, a correspondent for Yank Magazine, was standing next to Wall when he was hit.  Paris was killed.  He was both a writer and photographer.
The claim that Capa was the only photographer on Omaha Beach was Life's marketing angle and referred only to civilian correspondent photographers.  It was marketing hype to increase sales of Life's magazine, since all the D-Day photo coverage was turned over to a pool and available to all news services.  It's a shame that the men of the 165th Signal Photo Company have been written out of history by the marketing machine of a weekly magazine.  Elsewhere on D-Day, other members of the 165th jumped in with the airborne forces, landed at Point du Hoc with the Rangers and some were killed, wounded and captured.
73.235.236.46 (talk) 20:08, 7 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Very interesting, thanks. I have added "only *civilian* photographer" to the intro section. The "D-Day, Omaha beach, 1944" section does not mention that he was the first anything, which it should if it is mentioned in the intro section. -Lopifalko (talk) 11:27, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Only Photographer Landing on Omaha Beach On D-Day 

message: I see this article continues to repeat the lab accident story which claimed most of Capa's D-Day film was ruined during development.  This omits mention of several revelations over the past couple of years.  It has been conclusively proven that the so-called 'lab accident' story is false.  Experiments have shown that the emulsion could not have melted as Morris claimed.  Faced with this, Morris finally admitted that Capa may have actually taken only the few pictures we see in the 'Magnificent Eleven' during his short stay on the beach on D-Day.  In trying to walk back the lab accident excuse that he had originated then pushed for seven decades, Morris then claimed he never actually saw the ruined film - a rather absurd claim from the bureau photo editor!  The separate Wiki article on the Magnificent Eleven does note Morris' retraction (though it fails to go into detail on the debunking of the lab accident or Morris' attempts to resist the debunking). 73.235.236.46 (talk) 20:04, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: See The Magnificent Eleven. -Lopifalko (talk) 20:10, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Lab Accident Fable 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This article states that Elaine Justin with whom he had relationship during second half of WWII was married at time to actor John Justin. However the latter's wikipedia article appears to omit any reference to a marriage prior to 1946 and so far response in question I posted in its talk page indicates that three newspaper biographies also do not recognise Elaine as one of the three wives they maintain John Justin had. I have therefore placed a citation need against the phrase linking Elaine to this John.Cloptonson (talk) 13:39, 1 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal Life - questionable detail

message: The notes section reads "The authenticity of the photograph is today in doubt, with some questioning its location, the identity of its subject, and the discovery of staged photographs taken at the same time and place"
Two links are provided, one is dead. The PBS article suggests the photo is authentic and not staged. The notes imply it is believed to be staged.  The authenticity is not in doubt for many people, so saying it is in doubt is not supported by the active source.  We might consider rewording it to be more neutral so Wikipedia is not taking a side. 
I realize this might seem nitpicky but claiming Robert Capa staged a photo like that should require something more than a broken link. 2603:8081:8700:687D:F82A:B79B:3287:DFF8 (talk) 18:05, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes