Talk:Put-in-Bay, Ohio

message: I am wondering wether the detailed census data makes sense for a population of 128 (!) people. For example, the 0.78% of the population that are not white, but of two or more races, are made up of one person. Let's hope he has not died yet (or worse, accidentaly made his cross in the wrong place of the census form). 
As another example, there are of course not 116 adult males for every 100 adult females, as (tada!) there are no 116 males (adult or not) in the population (and neither are there 100 females).
I strongly suggest to rewrite this in more qualitative terms - any volunteers or anybody strongly opposed?
--Stephan Schulz 20:26, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Ok, this isn't going to end. I'm going to document the 'war' and we'll see how it looks once it's all written down. Catbar (Brian Rock) 00:47, 28 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Documenting the Edit War 

message: As there doesn't seem to be any ongoing dialog here I've unprotected the article. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 02:52, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Unprotected

message: Reproduced from above for reference:
Maybe the best bet is to block out the annoying websites from being the ability to be added or linked. RC 17:55, May 25, 2005 (UTC)
I don't think we can block links to specific websites with our current software.Catbar (Brian Rock) 23:00, 25 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Blacklist?

message: A good source for Put-in-Bay features and activities are the 1500+ photos on the web page, <spam link removed>
:I removed the spam link from the above comment. The spammers can't even keep from adding their links to each other's comments. Rhobite 22:58, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Link for Put-in-Bay Photos 

message: Due to the sterile edit war between competing linkspammers, I have protected this article from editing by new and anonymous users. I have also removed all commercial links from the article. We're not a travel guide. Removing a couple marginally-useful links is a small price to pay to rid the site of this edit war, which has been going on for about a year. Rhobite 05:18, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I made it full protect just now. Semi protection is not for edit wars nor is it intended to silence anons. It is just to protect vandalism. Besides, their isn't enough for SP anyway. Honestly, it's barely enough for full but I'll leave it be for now. --Woohookitty(cat scratches) 07:35, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They're spammers. They're not trying to improve the article, they're trying to make money. I am not "silencing" legitimate contributors. Spam is vandalism. If you'll bother to look through the history you'll see that people have been spamming this article for a year now. Rhobite 05:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit warring 

message: The person(s) editing/changing discussion comments and doing the real spamming are not the same as ones
posting websites in external links section. Changes,spamming and other comments
are obviously being made by others just trying to stir things up and create some kind of
percieved edit war between the previously mentioned PIB websites and/or Wikipedia.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.159.83.142 (talk • contribs) .
:Do you think we're really stupid here? You posted that comment from 4.159.83.142, which is in the same IP block as the address which altered URLs on this talk page, and spammed the article. You are one of the people modifying comments and spamming links to pibinfo. Rhobite 21:02, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion Edits 

message: A history of this problem:
*MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/April 2009#ohio-put-in-bay.com
*Talk:South Bass Island
*User_talk:NormanEinstein#Put-in-Bay (permanent link)
*User talk:Bkonrad/Archive 31#South Bass Island Links
*:meta:Talk:Spam blacklist/Archives/2006-03#Put-in-Bay, Ohio
*MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/June 2009#Putinbayonline.com spam
*MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist/archives/June 2009#4 years of Edgewater Hotel (Put in Bay, Ohio) spam on Wikipedia
*MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#put-in-bay.com listing (permanent link)
*MediaWiki talk:Spam-blacklist#put-in-bay.com removal (permanent link)
See also:
*http://wikitravel.org/en/Talk:Put-in-Bay
--A. B. (talk •  contribs)  18:54, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 4 years of Edgewater Investment Group (Ohio) spam on Wikipedia

message: Um, getting back to actually discussing the topic itself... does anyone have information (anecdotal or otherwise) as to how Put-In-Bay got its name?  I mean, OK, it's a small bay, but anything more than that? Dave (talk) 21:06, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: According to some sources, the original name on early maps was "Pudding Bay" because it looked like a pudding sack.  I'll add something.  —MJCdetroit (yak) 16:07, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the name? 

message: This has been disscussed several times already on multiple user pages; but re-starting the discussion here so that there is a centralized point of reference in the future.  A user has been edit-warring over the inclusion of the text:
:Ferry service provided by the Jet Express and Miller Boat Line connects it with Catawba Island, Kelleys Island, Port Clinton, and Sandusky, Ohio. 
Multiple other editors have been restoring the phrasing:
:A ferry connects the community with Catawba Island, Kelleys Island, Port Clinton, and Sandusky, Ohio. 
The most recent occurance has resulted in the page again being protected due to the tenacious behaviour as well as the claim of off-wiki solicitation to restore mention of the commercial entities.
I and several others have reverted a few times due to there being no benefit for the unsourced commercial advertisement of ferry providers.  Howver, the IP continues to restore them with the only argument being the mention has been there in the past, so should remain.  I would like to get comments aand opinions on this mention by others. --- Barek (talk • contribs) - 15:08, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As you've done in the past, you continue to confuse Wikipedia with Wikitravel.  Unlike Wikitravel, Wikipedia is not meant to be a travel guide: we provide an overview of information about a topic, and getting to a location is not a significant aspect of the encyclopedia.  Nyttend (talk) 02:15, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

text: A major difference is that airlines are generally notable, but ferry services aren't.  Nyttend (talk) 03:04, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

text: Another high handed uninformed comment. Who says what is "notable"? What magic number is "notable" The ferrys transport over 2 million people and cars anually. More than many of the regional small airline carriers in the examples cited above.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.43.185.18 (talk) 20:20, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

text: Please read this page: the presence of content on one page and the absence of the same type on another page may indicate that the first page needs to be trimmed.  Anyway, read our notability standards.  Nyttend (talk) 00:34, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ferry mentions 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I want to propose that the external link for Put-in-bay's Chamber of Commerce be changed to put-in-bay.org. Full disclosure, I was contacted via someone who was contracted by someone within the city, so my COI is unfounded to say the least. After my initial attempt to edit the site I was hit with a blacklist notice. Upon help from the Wiki admins and through further research, I discovered there has been significant conflict over previous websites linked in Put-in-bay's wiki page regarding un-Wikipedia-approved behavior. The link currently at the bottom of the page is another that has slipped through the cracks. 
It was brought to my attention that the website putinbay.org was purchased by the very same owner who has been the topic of much debate here. This may go out of scope for Wikipedia, but I was also made aware of the many unethical behaviors done by this person(s). Domain names were purchased a long time ago to prevent the residents and employees of the city alike from having access to them, many of which have been blacklisted here as a result of unapproved behavior. If one were to navigate through putinbay.org they are only to find the same links that have been blacklisted here by the community. This is further proof of the complex and intricately weaved web spun by this company. Not only is this a loophole in Wikipedia's rules and regulations, but it also prevents other businesses from within the town the chance represent themselves on the web, which I believe to be unethical business practices. 
I understand that put-in-bay.org may be directly affiliated with the city's COC (of this I am unsure of), and I know how the community feels about that, but I still feel that it promotes fairly across all aspects of the city's community, more so than the "Chamber of commerce" of one entity. I would your thoughts on this topic.
Gserrano0 (talk) 03:42, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed change to external links 

message: The proposed website is inaccessible, either because the certificate it uses cannot be validated or their encryption is not strong enough. Regards, Spintendo      05:23, 8 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 08-MAR-2018

message: I think it would be good to add a list of the restaurants, bars, and shops present on the island, so people have an idea of what there is to do on the island. Bridge2020 (talk) 03:22, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia isn't a tourist or travel guide. See WP:NOTGUIDE. If there's a business that has received significant coverage on a national level, then we can consider those exceptions, but generally local nightspots are to be avoided. --GoneIn60 (talk) 04:44, 2 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: FYI, in the past, this article has been subject to heavy link-spamming. I suggest taking a hard line on commercial links. --A. B. (talk • contribs  •  global count) 23:07, 16 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restaurants, Shops, Bars 

message: There's quite a lot early history, but no indication of how the unusual name 'Put-in-Bay' came to be adopted. Valetude (talk) 13:28, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name?