Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics/Superman work group/Archive 1

message: Will they have Marlon Brando in it again?--Chili14(Talk|Contribs) 03:29, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you talking about Superman Returns? If so.. yes, he's in it, but please move your discussions to the Superman Returns talk page, or more appropriately, a Superman Returns message board. —EatMyShortz 19:37, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Brando?

message: should't their be a Picture of John Schneider i think their should since he made Jonathan Kent cool again— Preceding unsigned comment added by Supermike (talk • contribs) 10:06 July 13, 2006
:Here is a picture of John Schneider for you: :Image:Bo Duke.jpg. I hope that helps you. --Chris Griswold 06:26, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: John Schneider

message: Hi guys, this is the first WikiProject that I started.  I really could use some help getting it organized and working on articles. --Mattwj2002 06:02, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Help Wanted

message: Shouldn't this be considered a subproject of Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics? Arch O. La Grigory Deepdelver 00:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subproject? 

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replies: text: Sorry if you tried to update it before, and the corrections were gone. I have now moved the new draft in the old directory pages, so the links should work better. My apologies for any confusion this may have caused you. B2T2 14:06, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project Directory 

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thread_title: [[Superman]]

message: Would it be better to have this as a taskforce of WikiProject Comics, rather than a separate Project?   Have a look at WP:MILHIST for how they have their taskforces set up to see what I mean. Hiding Talk 15:28, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taskforce 

message: I've greatly expanded the plot on the Superman and the Mole Men page and separated it into a synopsis section and a Themes section. 
Scmods 05:39, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Superman and the Mole Men 

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention. Badbilltucker 16:37, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: Articles for episode should not be created. Please read Wikipedia:WikiProject Television/Episodes and Wikipedia:Television episodes for when they should be created. There was already a debate on Smallville episode articles previously, that is why the articles stopped after Season 2. The focus should be on improving the main page, and then the season pages, and then, if there is a lot of information, the episode article pages. Plots, trivia, quotes, featured music, this isn't what Wikipedia is about; it's an encyclopedia. Plots are there for context with the real world information, and trivia should be avoided. I'm already working on improving both the main page and the season pages (see User:Bignole/Smallville seasons), and from the way it looks with my source material, I'll be merging all those episode articles into the season articles. All except for maybe "Pilot" and "Tempest", as they are the only ones that actually have enough relevant information that might be able to support themselves as articles.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 16:28, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I see your point, but I think you're swinging the article a bit too far to the negative side.  If someone can make an episode article with more than just plot and trivia, I'm not going to stop them. Basically, I think your first sentence, "Articles for episode should not be created" is way too harsh.  I would say, rather, "Articles for episodes should be created with care, keeping in mind the guidelines at..." Wrad 16:44, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Let me rephrase. Articles about episodes should be done with apprehension. You must ask yourself: "Where is the rest of the information?" "Is there a summary page, like a List of Episodes or a Season page?" "Would the information best be served there?" "Is the information itself relevant to Wikipedia?" ... People generally create an article and leave it forever, never touching it again, thinking someone else will work it. We have to face the idea that most of the people that work on these types of articles are basically "specialty" editors. Go to the "List of Smallville episode" article, and click any one of the episodes in the first 2 season (because they go to an individual article, as opposed to the rest that go to their counterpart on the season pages). "Featured music"? That shouldn't be there. Wiki isn't a marketing team. It's a list of pop music that appeared in the episode. That type of information is best suited on the main page, because you could explain how the creators worked with these various artists for the show itself. "Quotes"? Not only is that a violation of copyrights, because we are basically listing word-for-word what characters are saying, but we have a Wikiquote for that type of stuff. We already know about trivia. The three things that should be avoided on individual episode articles are the three things that these articles have (not including a plot). Someone rushed these out the door on the grounds that "other shows have them". Well, because other people are doing it wrong doesn't mean we should perpetuate the cycle. I've seen good articles on episodes, but they are few and far between, and most people think that if you have one then you should do them all.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 16:57, 16 May 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm sure it will. I'm using the Smallville Companions for information (that's why I said that I'll probably only have enough for the pilot and tempest, but I haven't widdled it all out yet). They haven't released Season 4 and 5 companions, so I won't know about those until later. I'd assume that they would have a lot for "Reckoning" considering the impact it had on the show.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 17:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh yeah, and I have that season 5 special DVD that has the making of for the episode "Reckoning".   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 20:09, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode Articles 

message: Hi we were talking about yours and the Batman project here and well it got to proposing Workgroups for the Comics project, with one of them dealing with only DC comics (discussion here, Proposal: Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Proposals#DC Comics). If this group should become a reality, we were wondering whether you might consider perhaps merging with it, along with perhaps the Wikipedia:WikiProject Batman. The fact of the substantial overlap of the two groups in things such as World's Finest Comics, Superman/Batman, and the like would we think be somewhat beneficial. Anyway, thanks for your attention.Phoenix741 00:15, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed Work Group. 

message: Pilot (Smallville) is currently up for FA status. Please bring more opinions here.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 06:29, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Pilot (Smallville)]] 

message: This minor character from the film Superman Returns has its own article. I don't think it's necessary - the vast majority of the article is a reiteration of the plot of the film. The character plays a very small role in the film and clearly doesn't deserve a separate article. I redirected the article after suggesting a redirection on the talk page and a week of no objections being voiced. However, SonPraises undid the redirect claiming no consensus was formed. Please weigh in your opinions at Talk:Jason White (character) so we can settle this. Thanks. --Jtalledo (talk) 15:14, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Jason White (character)]] 

message: For the purposes of centralized discussion, please see Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Comics#Proposed merger with WikiProject Superman. Thank you. John Carter 14:55, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merger with WikiProject Comics 

message: I've recently been working on an informative speech for a speech class in which my topic is cultural impact of comics. I've been doing research here and there and mainly been using Wikipedia to just check a quick fact. As I scanned Wikipedia, I noticed some articles that could be tagged as Superman articles but aren't. For example, I noticed that Christoper Reeve and Brandon Routh are tagged, but not Gene Hackman or Kevin Spacey. Are we limiting it only to actors that portrayed Superman, or are we allowing for actors that played major characters? A follow-up question would be, what about voice actors? Tim Daly voiced Superman in Superman: TAS. Should he be tagged? Anakinjmt 03:20, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criteria for tagging articles 

message: I've tagged the following articles to be attached to the project. I plan on soon rating them, but if someone wants to take the time and do it now, that'd be cool too.
*Atom Man vs. Superman
*Kirk Alyn
*The Adventures of Superman (radio)
Anakinjmt 03:50, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New articles attached to project 

message: I'd like to create an article or list of comics creators besides Siegel and Shuster who are important to the publication history of Superman. This would include people such as Cary Bates, Curt Swan, Murphy Anderson, Wayne Boring, Mort Weisinger, Julius Schwartz, John Byrne, Dan Jurgens, Mark Waid, Geoff Johns, etc.
I would also like to include these creators as being within the scope of WikiProject Superman. Any objections?
Mookie89 (talk) 23:37, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Makes sense. Batman has a similar article. Go for it. Anakinjmt (talk) 23:43, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creators 

message: I have done quite a bit of work improving the Origin of Superman article, adding details and citations. I still have to tackle modern age revisions and adaptations. I wanted to get feedback on what I have done so far. In a few weeks, I am hoping that it will be feature article worthy. Mookie89 (talk) 02:16, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of Superman 

message: I basically rewrote the Superboy (Kal-El) article, keeping some of what was already present, but mostly adding new material. The article now has three main parts: (1) a detailed publishing history covering 1944-1992; (2) a section on writers, artists, and editors; and (3) a fictional biography (circa 1985).  I did what I had in mind (more or less) when I added Superboy (Kal-El) to the list of pages needing improvement in September. Any feedback is appreciated. Spiderboy12 (talk) 07:41, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Superboy (Kal-El) 

message: Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here . This issue is affecting the Smallville articles and most have been deleted. --Maniwar (talk) 01:13, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Centralized TV Episode Discussion 

message: There's an expired prod notice on this article. Yet, I notice that your project has a tag on the article and there's no consensus on the talk page on previous discussions about the utility of the article. I'm therefore reluctant to delete it, so will remove the prod and I suggest one of you AfDs it. --Dweller (talk) 12:59, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Kryptonite in Smallville]] 

message: This article is in a poor state. It is basically a giant list of uncited original research. I've gone through a deleted large chunks of the page without references. For instance, someone claimed the character Son Goku from the Dragon Ball series was based on Superman. This is completely untrue. Son Goku was based on the fictional Chinese character Sun Wukong from the novel Journey to the West. Other examples include the mention of unrelated comic books just because they refer to their characters as "supermen". The word Superman (Nietzsche) has been in use well before superman to describe powerful men, such as Doc Savage.
Someone from this project needs to go through and do some more pruning. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 21:44, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In addition, the long list of Superman's appearances in various tv shows is uncited. Each entry mentions very specific info like who played what character and who directed or animated the show. Linking to the article about each individual show is not the same as the required source that says he appeared in said shows.--Ghostexorcist (talk) 21:49, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Superman in popular culture]] 

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thread_title: Changes to the WP:1.0 assessment scheme

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thread_title:  Articles flagged for cleanup 

message: Dear WikiProject Superman participants...WikiProject Media franchises needs some help from other projects which are similar. Media franchises' scope deals primarily with the coordination of articles within the hundreds if not thousands of media franchises which exist. Sometimes a franchise might just need color coordination of the various templates used; it could mean creating an article for the franchise as a jump off point for the children of it; or the creation of a new templating system for media franchise articles. The project primarily focuses on multimedia franchises. It would be great if some of this project's participants would come over and help the project get back on solid footing. Also, if you know of similar projects which have not received this, let  know. Please come and take a look at the project and see if you wish to lend a hand. You can sign up here if you wish. Thank you. LA  @ 05:14, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Media franchises 

message: Dear WikiProject Superman participants...WikiProject Media franchises is currently discussing a naming convention for franchise articles. Since this may affect one or more articles in your project, we would like to get the opinions of all related projects before implimenting any sweeping changes. Please come and help us decide. Thanks! LA (T) @ 23:03, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Franchise naming convention discussion at [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Media franchises|WikiProject Media franchises]]

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thread_title:  Wikipedia 0.7 articles have been selected for Superman 

message: I don't do WikiProject Comics so I'd be hopeless at writing it but I thought I should point out that History of Superman is rather out of date, seemingly last updated in the midst of the Last Son and Camelot Falls arcs. I think these pages, like Fictional history of Spider-Man are very useful and would like to see one for Batman too, maybe this could be a good way of hinting towards Batfans. Tony2Times (talk) 15:53, 18 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: History of Superman

message: There have been a peer review request for Characters of Smallville at Wikipedia:Peer review/Characters of Smallville/archive1. Please join and share your thoughts.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 17:19, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
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message: A bunch of Smallville character articles have just been prodded for deletion. See May 15's prods. WP:PROD 76.66.202.139 (talk) 04:14, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  smallville charactes 

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thread_title: Tools to help your project with unreferenced Biographies of living people

message: I just wanted to say I am new to Wikipedia, but I am helping to improve the Tom Welling article and if you would like we can add it to this project. If not I am also looking for helpful peer reviews on the Tom Welling page. Thank you. Trod17 (talk) 18:46, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Tom Welling

message: Awhile back I and others offered to bring this project under the scope of Wikipedia:WikiProject Comics. Since that WikiProject seems to have broadened its focus to include "in other media".
Since this project appears to now be largely inactive, would there be any concerns from those who are still around if this was transformed into a workgroup of the comics project? It is my hope that by doing so, it may spark some life into this collaborative effort. - jc37 20:15, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Except for article tagging, the move and merge is done as far as I can tell. - jc37 22:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggest Merge 

message: In "Lois and Clark" Superman had an ability to distinguish patterns, such as reading several different letters just from looking on the wooden table that they were written on. Why was this ability removed?
:I am not sure it ever was "removed". It was, apparently, added to that show. In the case you mention, it seems to me that it might be counted as being a combination of microscopic vision on the wooden table and photographic memory, both of which abilities the character already has. That being the case, I tend to think that it may have been just an easy description used by the show to describe other abilities. However, if the ability was never included in the canonical abilities as per the original comic books, I tend to think that it was not so much "removed", because it never had been in the comic, but just that they overlooked the variation created for the TV series. There tend to be a lot of changes from series to TV, and that may have been the case here. John Carter (talk) 00:58, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distinguish Patterns 

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thread_title:  Superman articles have been selected for the Wikipedia 0.8 release