Talk:Anime/Archive 4

message: Please leave some form of pronunciation guide near the beginning of the article; I too thought it was "a neem" when I first read it.
I assume the Japanese characters are intended to show the way the word is written in ordinary Japanese usage and are not intended as a pronunciation guide (although they serve that purpose if you happen to know katakana). So; perhaps keep the two distinct, but leave the roman-alphabet pronunciation in.
Fourohfour 18:56, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I wrote in a small pronunciation guide earlier without knowing that it was in the first section below; it got reverted.  I will now write a reference to that section at the head of the article.  Yes, it looks enough like "ah NEEM" to be confusing (and to get not-as-nice people to make fun of you or me being a noob by not pronouncing it right). ~GMH talk to me 20:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok I can your point. The problem was it was too hard to find under the heading of Terminology. I broke that section into two subsections. The reference to that section at the head of the article shouldn't be needed since the pronounciation is in the very next paragraph. - Squilibob 23:50, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: This seems to just be a personal blog, which it shouldn't be linked from this page. What do you think?
*Pelleas AniPages: Rare and literary anime.
--nihon 02:11, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Certainly isn't a database. - Squilibob 08:49, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Zapped. --nihon 09:06, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: See however, this comment by Neilworms, also note Ben *does* have a datebase of anime based on western literature. Personally, I think it'd be better if the external links section just din't exist, seems like 90% of edits to the page are adding and reverting bits and pieces, and no one (including me :) actually has a go at improving the (pretty sorry) article. --zippedmartin 20:55, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: AniPages?

message: This sentence seems pretty p.o.v. to me:
"Anime is characterized by stark, colorful graphics and stylized, colorful images depicting vibrant characters in a variety of different settings and storylines, aimed at a wide range of audiences."
The colorful graphics part is fine, but the 'variety of storylines' thing and 'vibrant characters' seems to be unnecessary.... I mean, any drawing style or genre could have good characters, and varied storylines. I would think it would be a more accurate synopsis to describe the basic characteristics of the drawing style.
:Its tone is inappropriate to a small extent. I'll rewrite that part. The paragraph focuses too much on what makes anime appealing as opposed to what constitutes what anime is and how it is created, and that should be what the first paragraph should be about. The content that describes  what makes anime appealing, I will move to the "characteristics" section as that is a suitable place for it to go. Someone may rewrite it, if it still seems inappropriate. I thought that some of this could be be put under "target audience", so I did some moving there too. - Squilibob 06:54, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  pov? 

message: :Anime can be used as a common noun, "Do you watch anime?", as a count noun, "How much anime have you collected" or as a suppletive adjective, "The anime Guyver is different from the movie Guyver".
"How much anime..." is not an example of count noun usage. Count noun would be asking "How many anime have you collected", which doesn't sound right to me. --Dforest 00:22, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds perfectly fine to me.  Anime is just like "deer" or "sheep" and has a null plural morpheme.  Perhaps this is just my study of the Japanese language getting in the way, but I think "animes" would sound rather funny. Inditalk 01:21, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think I've heard animes before, and IMO it's right. Down with irregular English pluralization!--Prosfilaes 01:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Animes" is incorrect. LaurenMcMillan is correct in her assessment above. --nihon 02:26, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why is "animes" incorrect? Your blanket statement isn't helpful. --Prosfilaes 03:21, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Saying it's incorrect is prescriptive and misleading. In fact, loanwords in English may take on different plural forms, kimonos for instance. The article should just state that both 'anime' and 'animes' are used as plural, and not dictate which should be. --zippedmartin 04:09, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Inclusion of both sounds good to me.  I was just stating what I think sounds right, not what is right. =) Inditalk 14:19, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't think anyone was disputing your actual point, which is patently correct. Be bold, etc. --zippedmartin 20:37, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes no one was arguing against it, in fact the article needs people to correct this sort of thing. I didn't know the difference. - Squilibob 06:17, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  count noun