Talk:The Washington Institute for Near East Policy

message: A text by le monde diplomatique about the drift into the right which Israel&this think-tank make..it includes a little history of influences, cites notes and sources and i don't know whether this is interesting or not.
i cant asses the quality of le monde diplomatique, i never participated in the english wikipedia and the rules for sources are very strict in the german wiki
so,well, maybe the text offers some new information which can be implemented into the article?
http://mondediplo.com/2003/07/06beinin  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.177.122.188 (talk) 23:04, 21 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interresting link?

message: There should be a list of current and past senior fellows.  I noted the absence when looking for information on David Pollack.  He is listed on the WINEP web cite.  http://www.washingtoninstitute.org/templateC10.php?CID=59
I hope someone experienced will add this.  Then maybe the redirect from David Pollack(politician) to here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Pollack_%28politician%29, an entry on the New York State Democratic Committee can be fixed.  I fail to see the connection and the entry does not mention Pollack.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.5.216.243 (talk) 04:15, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Senior Fellows 

message: Appears to be a complete whitewashing of this organization. Think the sources above need to be used to expand the hagiography that currently exists. nableezy - 15:22, 13 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Background section 

message: I have removed some contentious claims in this article that quoted from a book written by a researcher affiliated with Partners for Progressive Israel (the U.S. branch of the extremely left-wing Israeli party Meretz) and claims sourced exclusively to the heavily-criticized book, The Israel Lobby and U.S. Foreign Policy. It may be that there are different sources for the claims made, but these do not constitute the kind of reliable, secondary sources necessary. (It's also worth noting that since many of the figures involved are living people, the stringent BLP requirements for citations likely apply.) Thmymerc (talk) 08:16, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: None of those source are unreliable, The Israel Lobby is written by two noted experts in the field. That book was also heavily praised, so your claim it was heavily criticized as a cover for an effort to whitewash this organization is not going to pass unchallenged. Plus, we already have consensus for much of this up above, so you will need consensus to change it. nableezy - 21:22, 27 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no such consensus. Per WP:ONUS, please obtain consensus before adding these contentious sources to the article. Thmymerc (talk) 16:40, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This is long standing content with a consensus above. I will be reporting this tendentious editing if it continues. nableezy - 17:07, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're referring to the discussion above, I can see that @Nishidani, @חוקרת, @Onceinawhile, @Zekelayla, and @PrisonerB all argued against the phrase while only you and one other editor argued for the inclusion? Thmymerc (talk) 17:15, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Um thats the opposite of what happened? Onceinawhile and Nishidani both agreed, along with Iskandar323, and the sources were unanimous here. Nice ping attempt for backup though. And this material has been here unchallenged until your whitewashing edits for over a year. nableezy - 17:30, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

text: Even more sources calling WINEP pro-Israel have been published since the last discussion, which included a lengthy list. Here's on in NYT and one in ABC. I think there's plenty of evidence that a short wikivoice mention in the lead is due. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:28, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: We dont even need news sources here tbh, the academic sources are super clear on this, WINEP is not only pro-Israel it is part of the core of the Israel lobby and was established for that very purpose. nableezy - 17:31, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, except that I think newer sources are helpful to counter the argument that WINEP used to be pro-Israel but is no longer. Firefangledfeathers (talk / contribs) 17:37, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

text: I agree with adding the label with the New York Times description. I still don't agree with using treating the book or Meretz researcher as a reliable source. Thmymerc (talk) 17:36, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Fwiw, my edit did include that it's AIPAC's think tank so pro-Israel isn't really an issue so much as the two sources. Thmymerc (talk) 17:39, 28 November 2023 (UTC)

text: You dont have to agree, it is work of scholarship by noted scholars in the fields international relations and US policy. You dont get to say I dislike this obviously scholarly source so I will remove it. That is not acceptable. nableezy - 17:53, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I restored the prior version, you dont get to make a series of POV driven changes, removing scholarly works, and then revert war to force in your version. That isnt how this works. nableezy - 21:48, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of contentious claims sourced exclusively to unreliable sources