Talk:Caledonian Airways

message: "Excellent"?-POV. Antonio Porto Alegre Martin
:If the Airline of the Year Award was given to the airline for excellent service than it is factual. Not sure which Airline of the Year award Caledonian won but from a recent OAG Airline of the Year webpage awards recognize excellence, both in the air and on the ground.MilborneOne 21:33, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
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message: Is there a website recording names/addresses of BCal staff? I worked with thewm some years ago and would like to make contact.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.131.240.45 (talk) 11:53, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: BCAL Retired Staff

message: I have undone a bunch of edits that were inconsistent with the Wikipedia:Manual of Style, were unnecessary, or were unnecessarily repeated. 
WP:MOS says:
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WP:OVERLINK says:
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So pipe linking "British Overseas Airways Corporation" so that it only shows "BOAC" is incorrect. And there is no need to pipelink East African -- East African works just as well, and is what is recommended by WP:LINK.
Ground Zero | t 02:48, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Formatting

message: This really means "and", doesn't it?
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:Conciseness does not justify removing information from an article. The use of subjective qualifiers should be avoided.
Ground Zero | t 17:45, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: As well as

message: Footnotes are placed in a common list at the bottom of the article by putting the "" and "" tags before and after the reference. This is how references are formatted in Wikipedia. See Wikipedia:Footnotes. Ground Zero | t 01:40, 1 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Notes

message: User Ground Zero: Have changed back the sentence It ... Britain's most consistently profitable airline and ... most finacially secure independent airline ... to It ... Britain's most consistently profitable and ... most finacially secure independent airline ... for the following reason:
This sentence only compares Caledonian's financial performance with that of other independent (ie private) British airlines and not with all British airlines of its era, as this would include the two contemporary government-owned corporations (ie BEA and BOAC) that dominated the British air transport scene at the time as well. The reason for excluding the latter from that comparison is their 100% ownership by the UK Government of the time. The important point here that is of relevance to this sentence in the "Caledonian" article is that the corporation's financial performance really didn't matter because they were not run as commercial enterprises that were expected to rise and fall by their financial performance, but rather as extensions of the British state which in those days was always prepared to do what it takes to ensure BEA's and BOAC's survival, even at great expense to the UK taxpayer. To put it another way, comparing Caledonian's - or, for that matter, any other UK independent airline's financial performance - with BEA and/or BOAC would be pointless in this context. If you get a chance to read up on the sources cited in that article, this will perhaps become clearer to you and others who don't know this background. Aviator369 (talk) 08:23, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Reversion of edits that distort meanings

message: John De La Haye, who is credited in the current article with being one of the two prime movers of Caledonian Airways resigned quite early in the airline's life in order to create a new holiday resort in Javea, Spain. From then on, if not before, Frank Hope, as Deputy Managing Director, along with Adam Thompson were the main forces within the airline's management. Their offices were side by side within a single suite and they shared the same secretary, Margaret Trett.92.22.202.90 (talk) 14:42, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I recently availed myself of a chance to verify your claim in Crawley Library where they have a reference copy of Adam Thomson's autobiography High Risk: The Politics of the Air. This clearly states on page 160 that John de la Haye was absent from Caledonian for just two years to pursue his own business interests and that, upon his return, he was re-elected as a board member. I am therefore of the opinion that your statement is not corroborated by the facts (at least those that are in the public domain) and that, for this reason, your claim lacks validity. Aviator369 (talk) 03:55, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Frank Hope

message: The Caledonian Airways logo in the airline info box is NOT the original 1960s independent Caledonian's logo. It actually is the 1980s BCal logo as adopted by British Airtours following the former's takeover by the latter's parent in 1988. The two - the 1960s Caledonian logo and the 1980s BCal logo - can clearly be distinguished by taking a closer look at the appearance of Lions Rampant in each of them and by the font style used for the Caledonian name as it appeared on fuselages (the font style in the logo in the airline infobox resembles the one used for the British Airways name in BA's first post-privatisation, "midnight blue and pearl grey" Landor Associates logo.
Would it be possible to replace that logo (nice though it looks) with an "authentic", 1960s one?  Aviator369 (talk) 01:47, 29 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Caledonian Airways logo

message: The annotation of the relevant correction in the article's revision history relates to a contradiction in the corresponding passages in the British Eagle article. Aviator369 (talk) 11:12, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Correction of time frame regarding late-1960s ATLB transatlantic scheduled licence hearings

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