Talk:Belgian French

message: The expression huitante (80) may not be used in Belgian French, but what about octante? Peter Horn 22:12, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, Belgians use only quatre-vingts (but there is apparently an equivalent of huitante in Walloon: ûtante). Lesgles (talk) 06:12, 26 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Sorry, but there places in Belgium where 80 in Walloon is "ûtante", among others in the area of Malmedy. --Lebob-BE 13:40, 20 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Huitante/octante

message: What about patate? Is this an exampe of Flemish/German influence? It's certainly
used a lot (being a staple of the diet) and is more common than pomme de terre.
Likewise, cacahuete as in "buerre de cacahuete" as opposed to "pate d'arachide".
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 18.124.2.224 (talk • contribs) 17:37, 28 March 2006
:Patate is a colloquialism for pomme de terre (potato), and as far as I know its use in Belgian French does not differ from other French-speaking regions. Cacahuète (peanut) is not Belgian French either, it's the word used for the seed, whereas arachide is used for the plant. Matthieu Houriet 04:04, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And patate is not a Germanic word.  It and its variants are used in various Indo-European languages though it's Amerindian in origin.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Arthurian Legend (talk • contribs) 23:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Patate 

message: Are you sure the word "Cokotteur" isn't derived from Dutch (Flemish) ?
In (Belgian) Dutch, the word "kot" has two meanings :
- small building, (garden) shed, small stable
- student room (the same meaning as in Belgian French)
I've always thought the second meaning was derived from the first. Hence, "Kot" being a Dutch word, "Cokotteur" is derived from Dutch.
On the side : the adaptation by French speakers of the Dutch word "Kot" has his origins in the fact that the largest French speaking Belgian university until 1968 was situated in Louvain (Leuven), which is in the Dutch speaking part of Belgium. --LucVerhelst 20:52, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cokotteur 

message: Is not uniquely used for Belgium French. It is used for Flemish words That arn't used in the Netherlands as well. Sometimes they are even the same. eg.
patat, used in Flanders and Wolonia, in stead of Standard Dutch "Aardappel" or French "Pomme de tère", or "Shakosh" (I don't know how to write it, it is never written down) in stead of "handtas" or "sac a main".
Who kan look this out? 213.119.220.51 12:09, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a note about this additional meaning of "Belgicism". But I think any description of the Dutch dialects belongs on a page like Flemish (linguistics). Lesgles (talk) 18:48, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The word "Belgisicism" 

message: Are you sure that it's /ɛ̃/ and /œ̃/ that are merging in france and not /ã/ and /œ̃/? MissingNo 18:46, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. [ɑ̃] is a back vowel, so I think it would be unlikely to merge with either [œ̃] or [ɛ̃], which are front vowels. The difference between [ɛ̃] and [œ̃], on the other hand is simply one of roundedness. The French phonology mentions a possible merger between [ɑ̃] and [ɔ̃], but I personally have heard no evidence of this. Lesgles (talk) 05:18, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nasal vowels in France 

message: I changed the word "usually" to "sometimes" in the section referring to W as being pronounced as a V in "standard" French.  While there are very few words in French that start with a W (and most are taken directly from English, German, or Dutch), even fewer have the V sound.  Most still have the W sound, as in English.  (Wagon is an acceptable instance of the V sound.)  My source is "Le Larousse de Poche." —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.15.123.159 (talk) 01:47, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  W sound 

message: Dejeuner folk-etymology was removed.  Louis XIV woke up everyday at 8 and the adoption of "dejeuner" as lunch in France takes place a bit later.  Arthurian Legend 23:31, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dejeuner 

message: Two centuries later, the Carolingian dynasty progressively took over the power from the Merovingian kings. 
 They were based in Liege, just at the opposite end of Wallonia. 
Carolingians based in Liège? That suggests it was their capial, which AFAIK it never was, nor was Aachen, their official seat, ever part of the Bishopry of Liège.--Joostik (talk) 11:28, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carolingians 

message: It doesn't look like a cognate. Is its literal meaning analogous? —Tamfang (talk) 06:11, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  cognate? I do not think that word means what you think it means. 

message: In the article it says
"Une fois" cannot really be translated in other languages; its function is to soften the meaning of the sentence. The English equivalent would be "Could you come here?" or "Why don't you come here?".
I do not fully agree with this. First of all, just like the Dutch "eens", in German the word "(ein)mal" exists and is used for exactly the same purpose and in the same fashion, so one cannot say it cannot really be translated into other languages, just not in all of them perhaps. In English, instead of "Could you come here?" it's more like "Come here a minute", I'd say.
82.251.79.226 (talk) 23:47, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  une fois 

message: In Belgian French, the word caisse is pronounced /kɛs/ ou /kɛːs/ ? Fête (talk) 01:19, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  caisse 

message: This expression isn't English - the correct phrase is 'confined to'.83.163.73.142 (talk) 13:47, 15 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  'constrained to' 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The vowel chart contradicts the following statements. For instance, it does not distinguish /ɛ̃/ and /œ̃/ or /a/ and /ɑ/ despite stating that Belgian French still distinguishes these, as well as some of the long and short pairs. In fact, it seems the vowel chart actually represents the Parisian dialect.
-MToumbola (talk) 3:35, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vowel chart