Talk:Wanna Be Startin' Somethin'

message: MJ's lyrics are always a bit... off. But this songs' chanting of "you're a vegetable! you're a buffet" honestly make no sense whatsoever.... any explanation? Arthurian Legend 17:32, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am listening again to this song, and was wondering the exact same thing, what would he mean with you're a vegetable? 200.23.91.242 (talk) 22:52, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

text: You need sources otherwise it's original research and no fan sites either. There is reliable on it that can be found at Thriller (album). Why not use those sources. — Realist2 20:47, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Because some pepole don't understand the lyrics Aeneiden-Rex (talk) 21:47, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  You're Vegetable You're Buffet 

message: So, uhh, what does mamase mamasa mamkusa mean? Probably what 70% of the visitors to this page are looking for, and it's not here. Not in the Soul Mombassa page either.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.212.5.9 (talk) 15:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mama-se, mama-sa, ma-ma-koo-sa 

message: Yes ok maybe i can accept "your're a vegetable" as meaning that youre brain dead or something like that, but the next line, "you're a buffet" , that makes absolutely no sense? anyone have any insight on that? plus the next line after that "still they hate you" doesn't add any meaning to it either, it just makes it worse. Its funny because I thought i was mishearing the phrase "you're a vegetable" and maybe he was saying something else like "you're a vestibule" or something.. haha oh well at least the lyrics SOUND good when he sings them, even if they make little sense... I guess jackson himself wrote these lyrics so who knows what he was thinking, maybe he just needed any 3 sylable word...sense or not I still love this song, one of his very best songs no doubt!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.108.115.226 (talk) 21:29, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: You're a vegetable, you're a buffet?

message: So it is stated on the discussion that this is an anti-media song. That is as good an explanation as any, but if anyone could back it up by citing lyrics that would be awesome. I agree with the earlier comment that most visitors here are interested in what exactly the meaning of this song is. I bet there is an MJ expert somewhere with clearly developed thoughts on the subject and perhaps even some lyrical evidence.
===Possible Translation===
I believe it's about 2 different topics simultaneously. There are parts where he is referring to a personal relationship: "someone's always tryin'... they got my baby cryin'... she's stuck in the middle and the pain is thunder" -
and parts where he is talking about judgement and societal norms: "If you can't feed your baby, then don't have a baby" etc.
So perhaps he is defending this (imaginary?) persona in her battles against societal norms and judgements? Could it be about abortion? 
Furthermore, most of the lyrics posted on the internet seem highly implausible translations.
98.211.129.152 (talk) 07:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Song Meaning? 

message: I believe it's about 2 different topics simultaneously. There are parts where he is referring to a personal relationship: "someone's always tryin'... they got my baby cryin'... she's stuck in the middle and the pain is thunder" -
and parts where he is talking about judgement and societal norms: "If you can't feed your baby, then don't have a baby" etc.
So perhaps he is defending this (imaginary?) persona in her battles against societal norms and judgements? Could it be about abortion? 
Furthermore, most of the lyrics posted on the internet seem highly implausible translations.
98.211.129.152 (talk) 07:13, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible Translation

message: Ref #26 is a deadlink in which I couldn't find anything on web.archive.org and that needs to be taken care of. –MuZemike 23:47, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Crystal Clear x3 [talk] 10:01, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deadlink 

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thread_title:  Dead external links to Allmusic website – January 2011 

message: why are the song lyrics here? How is that encyclopedic?69.140.66.37 (talk) 17:19, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: why are the song lyrics here

message: MJ's sampled Cameroonian saxophonist Manu Dibango. Dibango created/wrote the uber popular chant ma ma se Ma ma sa Ma ma kossa. Dibango sued & won. Why isnt that mentioned? Why isnt Dibango credited as songwriter? 69.140.66.37 (talk) 17:19, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: where is the section about [[Manu Dibango]]

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message: This song page is a mess.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.97.191.10 (talk) 17:09, 13 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your detailed analysis. We'll get one of our top people on that right away. - SummerPhDv2.0 04:54, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: "a mess"