Talk:Dark Eyes (Russian song)

message: What about Django Rheinart ? Do you know him ? D you know his version ?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.228.73.44 (talk) 13:19, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The original Russian lyrics of this song are in the public domain: author Yevgeniy Pavlovich Grebyonka (1812-1848) died more than 70 years ago. Chaliapin's version, however, is apparently not yet in the public domain: Chaliapin died in 1938, therefore the 70 years post mortem auctoris required by copyright law haven't passed yet - it will be PD in 2009. Gestumblindi 21:05, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Two weeks ago, I proposed at Talk:Dark Eyes (film) to move this article formerly called Dark Eyes to its present location Dark Eyes (film) and to rename Dark Eyes (song) to Dark Eyes. There were no comments, so I proceeded and moved the film article; please move Dark Eyes (song) to Dark Eyes to finish the change. Gestumblindi 18:05, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem has been solved by a different means; Dark Eyes now redirects to the disambiguation page Dark Eye. --Stemonitis 13:57, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: "Russian Music on the Net", from which the translation was supposedly taken, leads to a "Page not found error". The link should be removed and possibly replaced if the site doesn't reappear. 85.180.127.116 (talk) 23:21, 23 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Links have been fixed. The site's structure was changed, breaking links to specific pages. Kanhef (talk) 21:38, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Link and Source 

message: The words "Очи чёрные" are in Russian language, not Ukrainian (in that language would be "Очі чорні", I'll correct this in the article), and I doubt if this should be considered an Ukrainian or Russian romance; even if the author was Ukrainian, I personally don't know any Ukrainian version of his poem).  --PabloAr (talk) 18:50, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The original publication by Hrebinka was in Russian, AFAIK (he worked in both languages). Викидим (talk) 04:32, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  About song's language 

message: The information in the third paragraph is confusing and even obsolete: IMSLP (see footnote 3) has Hermanns „Hommage-Valse, Op.21“ and dates it with reference to „Hofmeister: Musikalisch-literarischer Monatsbericht“ back to 1879. This should be sufficient to explain the origin of the melody. „Rêverie russe“ is another melody. Lahmen Ritter (talk) 20:12, 1 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: And how does the story about it being written in Cuba fit in? 23.93.192.5 (talk) 07:12, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The Cuban story is a joke by the Cuban artist at best. We should just remove it. See the discussion below. Викидим (talk) 06:08, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You would have to provide a reliable source that confirms it was a joke.--Aristophile (talk) 11:43, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Your statement is not correct. Usually truly ridiculous statements on any subject go unrepudiated, due to the simple fact that nobody cares about jokes or embellishments of someone's achievements. That's why we have a WP:FRINGE guideline: idea that is not broadly supported by scholarship in its field must not be given undue weight in an article about a mainstream idea. All written pieces on the subject say "Hermann", one Cuban musician says "no, it was me as a 12 year old" in an interview. This is clearly WP:UNDUE: Views held by a tiny minority should not be represented except in articles devoted to those views (such as the flat Earth). In this particular case, the only person on the record suggesting Garay as an author is Garay himself, clearly a tiny minority. So, while the statement might (or might not) be OK in the article about Garay himself, it is definitely out of place here. Викидим (talk) 20:03, 23 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Melody 

message: One of the transliterations is kinda crazy for an English wikipedia page. Many of us can read Cyrillic script - but how many of us know (what is essentially) the Czech alphabet! Virtually no one... this is not a commonly used Latin transliteration in the English speaking world.... 86.152.238.78 (talk) 01:36, 20 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transliteration 

message: How can it be a "Russian Song" when a Ukrainian wrote it? 67.70.57.107 (talk) 18:44, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Because Yevhen Hrebinka published it in Russian in a Russian newspaper. See also the comment above, #About song's language. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 23:44, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Ukrainian Song