Talk:Rajesh Khanna

message: Why was the external http://www.rajeshkhanna.net removed?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.107.0.73 (talk) 01:41, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Read our guidelines for external links: WP:ELNO. Active Banana  (bananaphone 16:42, 27 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was the external http://www.rajeshkhanna.net removed? 

message: Hello - I have recently begun helping Shrik88music in a mentorship arrangement and am trying to encourage him to make better use of article talk pages.  As I've browsed through the article history here I've seen most of the discussion happening in edit summaries.  As I am encouraging Shrik88music to use talk pages to discuss reverts or contentious edits, I would ask other editors participating here to do the same. — e. ripley\talk 19:38, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: some of the users are just without properly goin through the references given are deleting the artcile about khanna.the article put in wikipedia is very much relaible as sources are the reputed newspapers,interviews,film magazines,books etc.. Its rediculous to even dispute Khanna's superstar status in India. when there is reference to prove his achievements in his career then there shouldn't be unnecessary editing that too in a way that many FACTS are removed.   Shrik88music (talk) 19:56, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Please dont accuse me of not reviewing the "sources". Sometimes I have and found that the source does not actually support the article text. Sometimes I have and found that the "source" does not meet the WP:RS requirements. And sometimes there were just so many other obviously bad inclusions that to work through the everything to find what might be acceptable was just too much work. Active Banana  (bananaphone 20:51, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And today after I have carefully reviewed the sources I have repeated found that your interpretation of the content is serious off. Your content "Khanna dated Anju Mahendru but the copule drifted apart "  the source says they lived together for 7 years - thats not "dating". You stated that "the copule drifted apart " - when the source is essentially silent on that point, and yet other sources that you included later suggest that the breakup was way more rocky than "drifting apart" and resulted in the two not speaking for 17 years. I have grave troubles in trusting your interpretations of any of the sources. Active Banana  (bananaphone 20:58, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Our source clearly states that live in relationships DID occur in India at this time, at least between Mahendru and Khanna. we report what the reliable sources state. And you had not provided any sources to support the article claiming that "they drifted apart".Active Banana  (bananaphone 14:59, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: the Telegraph piece linked above is not suitble. No content that starts "Slrrp! Slrrp!" is going to meet WP:BLP the highest reliability for accuracy and fact checking. Active Banana  (bananaphone 15:03, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And your content from the Hindu is "What made middle-aged Rajesh Khanna drop long-time girl friend Anju Mahendru and tie the knot with teenaged Dimple? " - again gossip columns even if in typically reliable sources are not appropriate. Active Banana  (bananaphone 15:09, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

text: I have included what can be verified by the current sources for the article. They lived together for ~7 years, then they separated and didnt talk for over 15 years. If you want to include more details about the relationship and the break up and the intervening years, you will need to provide suitable sources that discuss and analyse the relationship. Active Banana  (bananaphone 15:30, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Encouraging discussion 

message: I have again reverted the lead section to content that more appropriately follows our guidelines for the lead. WP:LEAD
The first sentance should summarize the subject of the article - Khanna was an actor and a politician.
The remainder of the lead should give a brief overview of the subject:
*he was an actor who recieved a number of awards and was called the "first superstar". (perhaps more detail could be added about the film career)
*he was an MP for a 5 year term. (perhaps more details)
The fact that "he was affectionately known" is barely encyclopedic content and should be kept for fanpage profiles, but not encyclopedia. Active Banana  (bananaphone 20:27, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Shrik, what Active Banana is saying here is not that "he was affectionately known" necessarily needs a different reference, but that "he was affectionately known" does not strike an encyclopedic tone; that it reads too much like something you would read in a fan magazine, and not a dispassionate encyclopedia article.  Does this make sense?  A more dispassionate way to write it would be:  "His fans have nicknamed him..." or something similar.  In fact, perhaps his nicknames would fit better in the "other name" infobox, rather than at the top of the article. — e. ripley\talk 20:54, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Give some reason why it is encyclopedic to include that data. "Its true" is not sufficient. Active Banana  (bananaphone 21:09, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Again, there are lots of content that can be verified in reliable sources. But we are writing an encyclopedic article and so we focus on the encyclopedic content not merely anything that we can find in a reliable source. What makes those nicknames worthy of being in an encyclopedia article? Active Banana  (bananaphone 21:15, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Shrik, you say that he is called Kaka out of respect.  Does this mean something specific?  How does calling him Kaka convey respect?  I am asking because if this is something widely accepted then perhaps that can be worked into the article in some fashion. But you must communicate here why it should be so. — e. ripley\talk 22:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

text: You again seem to be missing the point. Just because something can be verified in a reliable source does not mean that it should be included in an encyclopedia article. And yes, editwarring include WP:TRIVIA is a violation of Wikipedia policy. Active Banana  (bananaphone 21:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have multiple times improved the tone and organization content of the Lead section only to have you revert to rambling fangush. I will not stop removal of unsourced and improperly sourced "facts". And I will continue to oppose inclusion of non-encylcopedic trivia whos inclusion is solely based on "but it is in a reliable source." Active Banana  (bananaphone 21:31, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

text: AB, thank you for a very patient explanation.  Shrik, AB is correct in this interpretation of policy.  Simply because there is a fact that can be verified does not mean that it should be included in an article.  Can you imagine how long and unwieldy our articles would be if they included every fact about everything?  We must pick and choose what are the most relevant and most important pieces of information to convey about someone.  If you think a fact is important and needs to be included, and AB disagrees with you, then you need to explain why you think it's important.  Discussion here is paramount, the strength of your arguments is important. — e. ripley\talk 22:28, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, after reading this explanation I still don't understand why this word, Kaka, conveys respect.  What does it mean in English?  Is this something that is widely used to convey respect?  Understand, we don't speak Punjabi, so we have no way to understand why this is so.  We need you to help explain it to us.  — e. ripley\talk 19:38, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

text: You keep claiming this trivial items are relevant simply because you say they are without providing any reliably sourced content to back your claims that they are not trivia. Active Banana  (bananaphone 18:43, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Once again, just because information is verifiable and sourced to a reliable source does not mean that it should automatically be included in an article; please read what Wikipedia is not.  Here is an example.  Our article about Madonna (entertainer) does not include any reference to the gap between her two front teeth, even though it's been mentioned in many reliable sources and is a highly recognizable physical feature of hers.  It simply was not judged as important enough to a biography of her to include it.  In short, we have to exercise editorial judgment, and different editors may disagree about what is appropriate for inclusion and what is not, even though what's in dispute may be properly sourced.  Does this make sense? — e. ripley\talk 19:38, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Okay, well, you clearly feel that the information is relevant enough for inclusion and it's good that you understand that it's a different threshold to pass than verifiability.  However, Active Banana disagrees with your position.  That means that you have a content dispute that must be resolved without edit warring.  In this, neither of your opinions trumps the other.  I would recommend that you take the edits piece by piece, and try to come to some agreement about them.  If you can't, then you will need to seek some form of dispute resolution, perhaps a third opinion. — e. ripley\talk 15:12, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Re: Lead section 

message: Great super star Rajesh Khanna was born in Bhuray Wala Punjab (British India) now Pakistan, this information should be added in Wikipidia   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.190.218.216 (talk) 00:02, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Active Banana makes some valid points.  Just because a piece of information may be properly sourced does not necessarily mean it should be in an article at Wikipedia.  Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of every fact about a subject.  Editors are expected to use good judgment in selecting what material is appropriate for an encyclopedia article, and what is not. — e. ripley\talk 20:37, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Well, clearly there is a dispute about what information can be considered encyclopedic and what cannot among editors that are present on this page, at the moment primarily you and AB.  That means that you must discuss these differences, and attempt to come to a consensus about it.  If you can't come to a consensus without edit warring, then you can consider some forms of dispute resolution.  Just remember that Wikipedia is a long-term project, this article will suffer more from edit warring than from having a piece of information removed from the article for further discussion for a period of time. — e. ripley\talk 22:24, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

text: I am not going to remove the tags until I or some other editor has had a chance to review the entire article. I am only in the second section of the main article and have found issues with nearly every source or claim. The tags will remain until the potential issues have been cleared. Active Banana  (bananaphone 15:36, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

text: It is not our duty to "respect the actor". We are here to accurately and without bias present the content that we can verify as having been published in reliable sources. If you want to pay tribute to the actor, you will need to go somewhere else and start your own fan page.Active Banana  (bananaphone 17:51, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And yet again, no just because something is presented as having been in a source it does NOT mean that it needs to be included in the article.. Active Banana  (bananaphone 17:53, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

text: My job is to ensure that the content in articles accurately as possible meets the Wikipedia content gudielines of WP:V / WP:OR / WP:NPOV and is presented in grammatically comprehensible English. Period. Active Banana  (bananaphone 18:04, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Yes, in short, I am not here to do your work for you. Active Banana  (bananaphone 18:13, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Some of why this is difficult is because there is a lot of editing going on here.  It's hard to discuss individual points when you both are making so many edits at once (or in smaller bites).  Shrik, let's try this.  Put together a paragraph or sentence of information that you would like to see added to the article, or that you don't understand why was removed from the article, post it here in the talk page in a new section, and we can all discuss it.  Then you can see a little more clearly why it is or isn't acceptable.  Okay? — e. ripley\talk 18:34, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Yes, he is contributing in good faith just as much as you are.  You simply have a disagreement about the content of the article.  Please focus on that disagreement.  My suggestion, again, is that you put together the text of information you would like to see incorporated into the article, or changed from its current text, and then we can discuss why it is or is not appropriate.  As it is, you're disagreeing through edit warring again without sufficient discussion and you won't get anywhere doing that. — e. ripley\talk 19:02, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

text: I am attempting to work through the sources in the article and verify that the sources back up the claims made. When you then revert to versions which have claims about living people that are grossly misrepresenting what the sources actually say, I will revert. Active Banana  (bananaphone 20:35, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Users - edit only if u have something to add as facts alone have been incorporated in Rajesh khanna article 

message: The tone in entirely gossip magazine profile and not encyclopedic - the phrase " Punjabi boy " has no place in an encyclopedia. Active Banana  (bananaphone
:it only means a boy who had his mother tongue as  Punjabi which is same as that of Khanna and this boy was  Ravi Kapoor! Shrik88music (talk) 17:13, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Whatever it means, it it not appropriate phrasing for an encyclopedia. It is "flowery" commentary suitable for a fan page or a puff piece in a celebrity magazine, but not for an encyclopedia. We do not "surprise" our readers with unexpected twists - we just state the facts. Active Banana  (bananaphone 18:41, 30 September 2010 (UTC)

text: The information isn't necessarily what is problematic, it's the way in which it's written.  AB has now modified it to "Punjabi-speaking boy."  Is this acceptable for you Shrik?  It is less idiomatic than "Punjabi boy," which sounds a little strange to English-speaking ears. — e. ripley\talk 19:52, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  RE: Early life 

message: In attempting to verify the content of the article an amazing percentage sources have turned out to be dead links. Can you Shrik88music re-search and add the appropirate live links  or actual citations or else you will need to remove content about affairs etc. that will fail the WP:V requirement for contentious material about living people. Active Banana  (bananaphone 20:48, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excessive number of dead links - impossible to verify content under [[WP:BLP]] 

message: The climax to this 1965 Filmfare show show was the introduction of the Filmfare–United Producers Talent Contest. The eight chosen ones, shortlisted from more than 10,000 star aspirants walked out of life-sized gift boxes. Amongst these eight were Rajesh Khanna, Subhash Ghai and Farida Jalal. Now you know where such stars were discovered. On our very own Filmfare stage.
http://www.filmfare.com/articles/terrific-25-15-770.html
this link says that Rajesh Khanna was among the eight finalists selected from ten thousand ones.
But AB is not mentioning that Rajesh Khanna won that Conetest as can be seen from the following links
http://www.screenindia.com/news/The-original-superstar/327356/ in the finals. and http://entertainment.in.msn.com/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=4155691&page=3.
the para goes
“Rajesh Khanna won our United Producers’ acting competition. I was making another film at the time and my friend G.P.Sippy gave him a break with Raaz. But it was only after Aradhana that he became a superstar. He was a naturally good actor. Even during the competition, he had spoken his lines so well. His strength was how he understood a character in a script."
AB now add them as refernces and re write the scenetnce as
" Rajesh Khanna was one of eight finalists in the 1965 All India Talent Contest organised by United Producers and Filmfare from more than ten thousand contestants.He won All India Talent Contest by board of jury such as Guru Datta, Bimal Roy, G.P.Sippy, B.R.Chopra and Shakti Smanta."
for name of judges refer this site - http://www.hindilyrics.net/profiles/rajesh-khanna.html Shrik88music (talk) 15:20, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  All india contest 

message: For convenience and to help this go a little more smoothly, I'll get the discussion started about the "All India Contest" line.
Shrik's preferred version is:
He won All India Talent Contesthttp://entertainment.in.msn.com/gallery.aspx?cp-documentid=4155691&page=3  which was judged by directors like Guru Datta, Bimal Roy, G.P.Sippy, B.R.Chopra and Shakti Samantahttp://www.screenindia.com/news/The-original-superstar/327356/http://www.hindilyrics.net/profiles/rajesh-khanna.html. 
AB has removed that sentence and the references.  
My opinion is that the MSN link could be considered reliable.  I'm not sure about the Screen India link, it appears to be an entertainment news site; it seems to have at least some professional oversight but I'll leave that to others to judge.  In any case, it does not say anything about who the judges were at the All India Talent Contest, so it can't be used to source who judged it (though, it could be used to source that he won the contest).  Hindilyrics.net is not a reliable source. — e. ripley\talk 19:15, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if the Screen India site is a reliable source, in amongst all the hyperbole I am still unable to find any verification of the claim that "it was judged by directors like Guru Datta, Bimal Roy, G.P.Sippy, B.R.Chopra and Shakti Samanta"  Active Banana  (bananaphone 19:22, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And there is nothing in the  site that indicates that this is a site that is known for fact checking and accuracy. Active Banana  (bananaphone 19:24, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: So, it seems that we have a reliable source for the fact that he won the contest, but not who judged it.  Shrik, if you want to include who judged it, you need a better source for the information.  Do you have such a thing? — e. ripley\talk 19:29, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Our reliable sources policy states:  As a general rule, the more people engaged in checking facts, analyzing legal issues, and scrutinizing the writing, the more reliable the publication. I can't see any information on hindilyrics.net that shows that there is anyone there checking facts or scrutinizing writing.  How does this source meet our criteria for reliability?  I don't see that it does.  — e. ripley\talk 20:25, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Where does it say that here? I'm missing it. It says he won the competition, but nowhere does it say who judged it. — e. ripley\talk 20:51, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

text: The text you're quoting here indicates that Smanta's production company was involved with organizing or hosting the contest, but it doesn't say he personally judged it. That requires a leap of logic that is not supported by this information.  Do you have another source? — e. ripley\talk 21:01, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

text: You appear to be combining bits of information from multiple sources to come to conclusions that are not specifically mentioned in either of the sources. Active Banana  (bananaphone 21:24, 1 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And is there any reason why the names of the judges matter? - again WP:IINFO just because we can find something in a reliable source (if in this case we are actually able to find it in a source) doesnt mean that it should be included in the article. Active Banana  (bananaphone 21:32, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Sources do not need to be available online, but they do need to specifically be able to verify the content in the article. And given the number of times that I have seen that the content that you want to add to the article does not accurately reflect what the source actually says, I am hesitant to believe any content claims that I cannot personally verify. Active Banana  (bananaphone 21:46, 1 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Shrik, I took you through this exercise because I wanted you to see just exactly how policy is applied here in terms of what sources can be used and why, and what sources can't be used and why.  Hopefully you have learned something from the exercise about what sources can be considered reliable and why, and why we must be precise in summarizing what sources that are reliable in fact say.  Would you like to try another exercise with another example of text that has been disputed?  I will, if you think it would be helpful. — e. ripley\talk 13:17, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  All India contest dispute 

message: This article or section appears to have been copied and pasted from a source, possibly in violation of a copyright. - fantastic reason!!!
u either ask me for references or ask for the same word to appear in the reference !!!
references are provided openly to prove that the sentence written in the article is a fact. it's a proof.
there need not be same word used in the link given .
also when sentence is framed in our own words , considering the info given in the link u have raised hue and cry.
U R NOT IMPROVING THE ARTICLE IN NAY WAY.
also in adult life section references provided by u are not proper -- provide them---"but did not complete the divorce proceedings".
It's written blossomed coz Dimple has accepted in that screen article they are friends,they attend parties together.
anyway, provide the link properly!!!Shrik88music (talk) 16:42, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right, I pasted the wrong source in the footnote - it's one of the ones already in use in that section, but I cannot find it right now, will correct it later. Active Banana  (bananaphone 17:24, 3 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  AB's article not properly referenced 

message: In English, when you start a new idea you start a new paragraph.
We have the lead sentence which gives an overview of the subject of the article.
Then we have a new paragraph on a new topic: the acting awards he has won.
Then we have a new paragraph on a new topic: his political career. This has nothing to do with his acting awards mentioned earlier and so goes into a new paragraph.
Then we have the random statement about his nicknames which you keep stating are important and need to be kept but never provide any sources to show why other than your claim that they are important. Active Banana  (bananaphone 19:38, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead yet again

message: I've removed this content, as some of it was copied from external sources. Even the proposed modification was unusable. (cf. ) --Moonriddengirl (talk) 18:16, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: 2nd and more imp issue

message: Quicklight (talk) 14:44, 22 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Your attempted "explanation" is not a valid one. A reliable source is a reliable source and reliable sources are needed to substantiate claims made in Wikipedia articles. Period. And they are most definitely required for claims about living people.  There is no "Well our country didnt go online until a few years ago" exemption to allow substandard sources. If you cannot find a relible source on line or supply a proper citation to a reliable print source you CANNOT add claims to articles. Its as simple as that. Active Banana  (bananaphone 18:12, 23 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

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message: intros are provided in many artciles espcially of any film star , so if anywhere with references, intro is given , then it does not amount to wastage of information. eg - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shahrukh_Khan, ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aamir_khan, even amitabh bachchan. Wantnovels (talk) 18:22, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't mean intros should contain WP:POV and have unsourced or poorly sourced (oneindia is not a reliable source) edits. Please read WP:LEAD. The intro should summarise the article, not glorify the actor with fan-led descriptions. Also see WP:UNDUE. Information presented in a biography article must be relevant and coherent. Shahid • Talk2me 20:27, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro 

message: I created this sub-heading and added a sentence with a proper citation.
I don't know why the heading as well as the content has been removed.
Sachi bbsr (talk) 03:28, 25 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversies 

message: Rajesh Khanna passed away
http://www.asia-pacific-news.net/2012/07/bollywoods-first-superstar-rajesh.html
101.210.206.38 (talk) 08:52, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: . Yes, the article is being updated. Thank you. Lynch7 08:53, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 18 July 2012 

message: I would like to request the Wikipedians to make a list of movies of this Superstar and add to this page.  Guitaristrock (talk) 17:02, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It already exists: Rajesh Khanna filmography. Thanks! --bonadea contributions talk 17:09, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  We need to add a list of the movies featuring this Superstar  

message: Rajesh Khanna was Born in Burewala, Punjab Pakistan. His Father was First Head Master of M.C.School Burewala. He retired on March, 1947 and went to Amrister with his family. Rajesh Khanna studied class-1 in the same school where his father was Head Master.
QiratQamar ([[User 
talk:QiratQamar|talk]]) 19:57, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a reference to support that claim? Regards, SunCreator (talk) 22:32, 18 July 2012 (UTC)

text: Please provide references for your claims.Please follow the Wikipedia policy . Guitaristrock (talk) 13:51, 19 July 2012 (UTC)

text: Refer to the following link  [] for information on Rajesh Khanna real  birth place . Please anybody volunteer to write these facts in this article as a tribute to this great legend Guitaristrock (talk) 16:25, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  added. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 16:51, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Later retracted, this is contested as sources conflict. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 20:06, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 18 July 2012 

message: I would like to request the Wikipedians to correct the real name of Rajesh Khanna as born to Jatin Arora and not Jatin Khanna.
He was born Jatin Arora, and then he was raised by foster parents who were Khannas, and hence he was named Jatin Khanna.
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Ravi Matah (talk) 19:27, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: done. Regards, SunCreator (talk) 20:08, 19 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real Name of Rajesh Khanna was Jatin Arora 

message: In the later career section it needs to be mentioned that  Riyasat is the last movie of Rajesh Khanna and he shot for it untill 6 days before he fell ill and shooting had begun in 2011. Riyast will release on Dec 28, 2012. Reference is http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/bollywood/news-interviews/Rajesh-Khannas-last-film-to-be-released-in-December/articleshow/15052167.cms.
After Riyasat gets released in 2012, he would have appeared in exact 164 feature films, 107 as the solo lead hero. So changes have to be made.Onceshook1 (talk) 05:00, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last Movie of Rajesh Khanna - Riyasat 

message: The section is nothing but a collection of eulogies. I suggest that we remove it completely or curtail it. Thoughts? --Redtigerxyz  Talk  05:13, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Remove completely. Cut some important ones and move to "Illness and death" section. But its better to leave it so for few days. Many fans would keep adding it back. §§AnimeshKulkarni (talk)  05:24, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Reactions" in death section 

message: Anita Advani was removed from the article saying "Anita Advani only claims to be live in partner and has filed a notice claiming to be same to get property. But its not truth til court decides". But newspaper references say that she was Khanna's partner, not that she claims to be his partner. The court will only decide about the property she claims.--Redtigerxyz  Talk  14:21, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with your point.Indian media puts everything in confusing way,specially some news channels.Sometime i feel their info. shouldn't considered as reliable sources.Anita Advani  have been the subject of conjecture.Must Wait for court's decision Thank You -25 CENTS VICTORIOUS☣  09:10, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anita Advani 

message: I plan to nominate the article for GA. The article needs attention on following issues(many of them are not related with GA):
*More images needed in the article.
*There is a need of citation overkill in many places.
*His final words tweeted by Amitabh Bachchan could be mentioned in some colored box.
*The layout style of the Filmography section could be proper. It looks weird at the moment.
*The popular dialogues could be mentioned in the colored boxes.
*References section needs to be done according MOS.
Regards, theTigerKing   17:13, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There's hardly any free image available(except funeral) rather than non-free.Do not nominate it for either GA or FA.Article needs huge work to do. Rated as C-class so most importantly copy editing.Wait until issues gets resolved Thank You -25 CENTS VICTORIOUS☣  09:04, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

text: Twitter is not a reliable source. And in any case, reporting that somebody claimed that someone's last words were this or that is not encyclopedic information. --bonadea contributions talk 16:01, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Todo list 

message: He also did some playback singing in movies like Baharon Ke Sapne, Safar, Shehzade, Amar Prem, Daag, Prem Nagar, Ajnabee and flm souten.
Reference - http://www.worldlatesttrends.com/2012/07/rajesh-khanna-hindi-film-career.html and IMDB of each of these films.Onceshook1 (talk) 15:34, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.worldlatesttrends.com/2012/07/rajesh-khanna-hindi-film-career.html this can't be considered as reliable source.I recommend you to visit  here to know what exactly reliable source mean.Thank You -25 CENTS VICTORIOUS☣  09:11, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

text: As far as I know so he did playback singing for two films which are listed on the article. Torreslfchero (talk) 12:25, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Playback Singinng 

message: http://zeenews.india.com/entertainment/celebrity/rajesh-khanna-was-suffering-from-cancer-for-the-past-one-year_115624.htm and http://entertainment.oneindia.in/bollywood/news/2012/rajesh-khanna-last-wish-097591.html It s clear from these artiles that Khanna died of cancer and that though he and his family members knew he was ill a year ago, Khanna had insisted that the news of him being ill and having cancer need not be divulged to the public till after his death. Mumtaz, his close freind and co-star makes it clear in the artcile - http://www.indianexpress.com/news/rajesh-khanna-was-very-close-to-me-mumtaz/976166/ and http://www.filmitadka.in/201207192481/news/mumtaz-and-sharmila-tagore-share-rajesh-khanna-memories.html that Khanna was suffering from cancer and had met him a month before his death. Onceshook1 (talk) 16:32, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no official announcement either from family members or any medical reports. Thank You -25 CENTS VICTORIOUS☣  16:36, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Khanna Died of Cancer 

message: I want to correct some edition in this biography of Rajesh Khanna. You have mentioned the birth place of Rajesh Khanna as "Amritsar, India" which is incorrect. Actual Birth place of Rajesh Khanna is "Burewala, Pakistan". Please find below link by "The Indian Express" which proves the birthplace of Late Mr. Khanna:
http://www.indianexpress.com/news/for-kaka-from-pakistan/977275/
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Residents-of-Pakistan-town-condole-Khannas-death/articleshow/15101019.cms
http://www.thenews.com.pk/article-59469-Rajesh-Khanna-was-born-in-Burewala
http://www.dnaindia.com/entertainment/report_pakistan-s-burewala-city-mourns-rajesh-khanna-s-death_1717111
I hope above links would help you to believe that Late Mr. Rajesh Khanna was born on 29th December 1942 in Burewala, Pakistan.
Also, I would like to mention here that Mr. Rajesh Khanna's real father name. Rajesh Khanna's father, Lala Hiranand Khanna, was the first headmaster of MC School, Burewala, who got retired on in March 1947. Later in 1948, Hiranand Khanna migrated along with family to Amritsar following the partition of the sub-continent.
Umermalhi (talk) 20:56, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: . Changed birthplace only. Interestingly enough, there was a source for the Indian birthplace, but you've provided too many sources supporting the Pakistani birthplace. Plus, the other source was DNA, and you've provided a DNA source as well. Obviously, this change may be problematic. I'm curious if there's any other reliable source that reports the Indian birthplace.--Bbb23 (talk) 01:04, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 23 July 2012 

message: This news article http://www.geo.tv/GeoDetail.aspx?ID=59469 claims that Khanna's actual birthplace is Burewala (Pakistan), not Amritsar.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.240.125.119 (talk) 20:58, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Indian media says Amritsar and pakistan media says Burewala.This has become a controversial topic,but yet hasn't clarified.-25 CENTS VICTORIOUS☣  16:41, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

text: ok,make change in article but please do not forget to add reference.Thank You-25 CENTS VICTORIOUS☣  17:56, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct birthplace of Rajesh Khanna? 

message: Khanna attended Hill Grange High School, Mumbai, in years 1958-59.
Csbhatia (talk) 00:37, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: . You need to provide a source to include this information. I also note that the article says he attended a different high school (with a source), although I suppose he could have attended more than one.--Bbb23 (talk) 00:42, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 24 July 2012 

message: The editing should be made to the following page:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rajesh_Khanna
Here the line, "After being critical illness, Khanna died on 18 July 2012", is grammatically incorrect and is also void of an important fact that should be mentioned.
The line should be changed to, "After being critically ill, Khanna died of cancer on 18 July 2012".
Mr.bhasin (talk) 19:03, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed.Good call, but there's no any official announcement that he's been died coz of cancer. Thank You -25 CENTS VICTORIOUS☣  07:42, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: So I guess I can mark the template with ans=yes. Floating Boat (the editor formerly known as AndieM) 08:53, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 24 July 2012 

message: Going to be add last message of MR.Khanna soon. -25 CENTS VICTORIOUS☣  16:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Last words

message: Following information needs to be incorporated
1) Rajesh Khanna's father, Lala Hiranand Khanna was working as the headmaster of MC School, Burewala near Faisalabad in Pakistan in the 1930's till his death. 
2) Khanna's ancestral house built in 1935, is still located in  located in H-block on Delhi-Multan Road and is named as 'Jatin Bhawan'.
3) But Rajesh Khnana is born in Amrisar only as per Indian Media as his parents' hometown was Amritsar and only for work purposes his father had another ancestral house in Burewala Pakistan.
References - http://www.thenewstribe.com/2012/07/19/truth-revealed-rajesh-khanna-was-born-in-pakistan/#.UCqOClaPWDs
Onceshook1 (talk) 08:55, 25 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Request - Khanna's biological father's name is  Hira Nand Khanna and Acertain his birth place 

message: Adequate references available online proving following 2 facts
1 Rajesh khanna did 106 solo hero films. 
2) Secondly he holds record for being the actor from hindi films with most number of solo hero films. ( which is 106)
3) He was awarded filmfare special award in 1991 for his record of most number of solo hero films till 1991 in compariso. To all other male actors of hindi films and also for completing this feat within 25 years since his debut.
4) his record of doing most number of solo hero films in hindi is a standing record,  which is yet to be broken.
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Rajesh_Khanna&diff=574028870&oldid=574028356
The version which appeared a hour ago was correct information.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.76.121.83 (talk) 13:56, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: that version does not have reliably published sources which confirm your claims. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 14:43, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

text: Since the information is already in the article - two sentences above, in idiomatic English - this would seem to be a non-issue. --bonadea contributions talk 16:05, 22 September 2013 (UTC)

text: that you agree with yourself is not surprising. what is also not surprising is that repeatedly providing links to sources that do not meet our standards as reliably published sources is not going to advance your case. In addition, even with reliable sourcing, you would need to show that including such fanboy trivialistic language and presentation for coverage meets the standards that we have as an encyclopedia. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 20:07, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: your proclamation that the sources are reliable does not make non reliable sources reliable. take them to the reliable source notice board and see the reception you get there. And just being written by a magazine does not make something "not trivial fancruft"-thats what celebrity gossip mags are completely filled with. -- TRPoD aka The Red Pen of Doom 11:15, 26 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  unbroken record for most solo hero films 

message: Every source says the same thing that he had 15 successive solo hits from 1969-1971. So there is no issue.
1) http://www.firstpost.com/bollywood/rajesh-khanna-the-superstar-who-could-not-handle-success-381803.html
2) http://www.rediff.com/movies/slide-show/slide-show-1-10-facts-about-rajesh-khanna/20120718.htm#1
3) http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2012-07-19/news-interviews/32731341_1_rajesh-khanna-consecutive-solo-superhits-record-in-indian-film120.138.125.137 (talk) 07:31, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for adding the new references to the article. Of course not every source says the same thing, or the question would not have arisen, but the new sources appear to be more reliable than a couple of the ones that were removed. --bonadea contributions talk 07:51, 6 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  15 consecutive solo hits period -1969-71 

message: The fact is Rajesh Khanna's Phenomenal Period was in between 1969 to 1972, though he remained superstar till 1974.Also He had never given 15 consecutive hits as stated, I have done keen research on Rajesh Khanna from National Film Archieve of India, Pune, Where I found Rajesh Khanna gave 15 Superhit films till 1972.So please give correct information to people.(talk)
You have given totally wrong information on Rajesh Khanna page...Rajesh Khanna had a phenomenal period from 1969 to 1972 instead of 1971...Apna desh was his 15th super hit film. Rajesh never gave 15 consecutive hits..try to understand or please do your self research.I have done an authentic research on Rajesh Khanna.Rajesh Khanna was a Superstar from 1969 to 1974 Period in which his phenomenal period was 1969 to 1972. Please do not shortened it to 1971. He had a major 3 hits in 1972 and they were Dushman, Amar Prem And Apna Desh. in 1971 He had 2 flops which were Mehboob ki Mehendi and Chhoti Bahu then how could he delivered 15 consecutive hits??? Infact Mehboob ki Mehendi was released just before the Film Anand. Lots of information I have found out from National Film Archive of India which is in Pune. Please do search it in proper way and give information to the world. Thank you.(talk)   — Preceding undated comment added 10:54, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't use our own research. Four sources which, in the section above this, have been judged sufficiently reliable, give the time span 1969-1971. If there are reliable sources that contradict these sources, that could conceivably be added without removing what is currently in the article; a discussion about the contradictory claims might be relevant, but we must be careful not to place undue weight on minor details.  It is not exactly a crucial fact, and edit warring over it seems rather ridiculous. :-)   By the way, does anybody know what the label "hit" refers to here? It's not really a word we should be using (much less "super-hit" - that's the kind of word I regularly search for in Wikipedia articles and edit out because it goes against WP:NPOV)  but I suspect it might have a specific meaning in terms of box office sales, and in any case, the sources call them "hits". --bonadea contributions talk 11:19, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: 1969-1971 or 1972

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message: There is a bit of a sourcing problem when it comes to the number of films Khanna appeared in. Different sources seem to say different things; some of them tie themselves into knots detailing "solo hero" and "lead protagonist" films separately (this is pretty confusing, for instance): this source says that he "star[red] in over 180 films" while this says that he appeared in 163 feature films and 17 short films (so why does our article say 168 feature films and 12 short films?). Appear in ≠ star in, to begin with, so which source should be used here? A lot of this mess dates back to the serial sockmaster Shrik88music who had a thing about inserting original research, but there's always been an issue in articles about major movie stars that fans are eager to include every single detail they find in any source, without any thought of which sources may be more or less reliable, and without realising that everything does not belong in a Wikipedia article. The question about how many films Khanna appeared/starred in is also an issue in Rajesh Khanna filmography.  Pinging  who is wise in the ways of Hindi cinema sources. --bonadea contributions talk 11:54, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Starring is obviously not appearing in, but this kind of wording can be expected in Indian news film articles even if a 'leading star' makes a guest appearance. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 17:17, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely, but I think the source that talked about how many appearances he had must have included the starring roles in the appeared-in films – it is undeniably true that he did star in a large number of films, but it's probably best if Wikipedia doesn't try to make that distinction... The main question for me is which sources are most reliable, and then we can go from there. --bonadea contributions talk 14:41, 6 January 2020 (UTC)

text: I believe you can use the India Today numbers and Hindustan Times number with attribution. But "168 feature films and 12 short films" seems unsourced. - Fylindfotberserk (talk) 16:58, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of films 

message: Other celebrities who paid homage to him at his house after his death included Manoj Kumar, Asha Parekh, Ranjeet, Jeetendra, Rakesh Roshan, Yash Chopra, Randhir Kapoor, Rishi Kapoor, Shabana Azmi, Dharmendra, Vinod Khanna, Asrani, Prem Chopra, Govinda, Salman Khan, Shah Rukh Khan, Aamir Khan, Amitabh Bachchan, Hema Malini, Himesh Reshammiya, Ram Kapoor, Mahesh Thakur, Aadesh Shrivastava and Sajid Khan. His prayer meeting, organised in a grand way at the Taj Land's End hotel in Bandra, Mumbai on 21 July 2012, was attended by many, including Reena Roy, Padmini Kolhapure, Neelam, Jaya Prada, Amar Singh, Bindu, Poonam Dhillon, Neetu Kapoor, Jaya Bachchan, Aamir Khan, Kiran Rao, Ranbir Kapoor, Mithun Chakraborthy, Shakti Kapoor, Shashi Kapoor, Suresh Oberoi, Parmeshwar Godrej, Tabu, Sonali Bendre and Jackie Shroff.
Such a list is not encylopedic and I have removed it.  Platitudes are not encyclopedic. Millions of people mourn the loss of popular actors. Their names are not added in such way. Venkat TL (talk) 15:33, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of people who paid homage?  

message: Shah Rukh Khan reacted by saying: "To live with intention and walk to the edge. Play with abandon, choose with no regret. Smile and made us do the same. Sir, you defined our era. Whenever life felt tough you made us feel how love could change it all. RIP ". Mumtaz also added that she had memories of having worked with him and said that she had been crying the whole morning, but was happy that she had met the ailing Rajesh Khanna in Mumbai in June 2012, when the two discussed their respective battles with cancer. While Shahid Kapoor quoted: "RIP to the First King of Romance ... Rajesh Khanna." Subhash Ghai added that Khanna " was the powerhouse of the Hindi film industry. I met him on the set of Aradhana, he had some kind of energy and you will be charged when he is around you. His name will be written in golden words." Amitabh Bachchan was quoted as saying: "The word 'Superstar' was invented for him, and for me it shall ever remain his, and no others .. !! His generation and the generations that follow, shall never be able to describe, or understand his phenomena .. !!".
His son-in-law Akshay Kumar said, "you are a father, a Legend & a very treasured man, who will never be forgotten."
Vyjayanthimala commented that "His death is a big loss to the industry. It's my bad luck that I didn't have the chance to work with him because he came much later. I remember when he came to Chennai for some film shoot, the college girls went crazy to catch a glimpse of him when he was going to his studio." Manna Dey said: "He was a great actor, truly a superstar, no doubt about it. I am honoured to have done playback for him. I have worked for him in several movies, and actors like him are a rarity." Mrinal Sen recollected how Khanna had wanted to cast him in one of his films, but the latter could not manage due to date problems. "We had met several times. Once I had wanted to cast him in one of my films, but somehow that didn't work out due to his date problems."
Film historian S. M. M. Ausaja added: "He never acted in a Bengali cinema. But right from the late 1960s to the 70s he was the top star and worked with the top directors of his era, most of whom were Bengalis." There were also reactions from the Gali Tiwaria where his ancestral house was, and had since been converted to a temple through his donation. Songs from his movies were played as the news of his death became known. His foster brother Muni Chand Khanna said that "he used to love to play Cricket when he lived here. He was a simple boy when he lived here and led a simple life even after achieving so much." As were the residents of Burewala, Pakistan.
Buddhadeb Dasgupta said Khanna's acting would continue to inspire young actors in the future. "He was a great actor and was the first superstar. He was a much bigger star than Amitabh Bachchan. His acting will continue to inspire young actors of the coming generations." Rituparno Ghosh said: "In the film 'Anand', he delivered some of Indian cinema's most memorable dialogues. The use of the word 'Babu Moshai' by Rajesh Khanna to Amitabh Bachchan, who played a Bengali doctor in the film, is so deeply etched in the minds of Indians that it has almost become a synonym for Bengalis for the rest of the countrymen. "In a dhoti and kurta, you showed the rest of India how truly elegant Bengal was" Madhur Bhandarkar said, "The epitome of superstardom is no more amongst us. There was none, there is none and there won't be any like you, Kakaji."
Additionally, those within the political spectrum that offered their condolences included Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, who said that he "convey[s] my heartfelt condolences to the members of the bereaved family and countless fans and admirers of Shri Rajesh Khanna." INC President Sonia Gandhi also expressed her sorrow. Regional political leaders who offered their condolences included Chief Minister of West Bengal Mamata Banerjee, who said: "Rajesh Khanna was always a symbol of romance. His smiling face and the ability to connect with people at ease had made him popular. We lost a big pole star in the film world today." As well as Bihar Chief Minister Nitish Kumar who added that "his death has caused irreparable loss to Hindi cinema."
Condolences also came from Pakistan where Prime Minister Raja Pervaiz Ashraf called Khanna a "great actor whose contribution to the field of films and arts would be long remembered. [He had a] large fan following across the borders and captivated audiences with his excellent acting skills."  Ali Zafar wrote on Twitter: "Rajesh Khanna – RIP. So many fond memories from his movies and songs.", while Syed Noor said: "Rajesh Khanna was such a huge actor of the subcontinent that he will be remembered by the people for many years to come. The era he reigned over is unlikely to be experienced by any other actor of this subcontinent." Geo TV also aired a nearly hour-long tribute with contributions from actors, filmmakers and musicians.
The above are usual platitudes and death condolence. People say such thing after every death. Although cited, None of these claims of greatness are verifiable or objective or encyclopedic. So I have removed them. Please discuss if you want to include them. --Venkat TL (talk) 15:47, 22 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: List of Platitudes removed

message: Rajesh Khanna made his Bollywood debut on Aakhri Khat in 1966. Nobel X300 (talk) 18:22, 1 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bollywood debut