Talk:Bushmeat

message: I agree with other posters that this entry doesn't make sense and targets one continent.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 104.246.130.248 (talk) 00:47, 6 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Combined with information about other regions of the world where people eat meat from hunting wild animals?

message: Most people here in America regularly hunt, eat and sell the meat of deer, turkey, squirrels, possums and raccoons, which is considered normal. However when Africans do it it's considered to be "illegal bushmeat" and automatically consist of endangered species. I feel that this is very biased. One of the top bush meat animals is grasscutters (African cane rat) which is as plentiful as and fits the same ecological niche as the American cottontail, which is also rodent-like. 
It's portrayed as freakish and diseased when Africans do it, and normal when Americans do it. Many US states issue warnings about people getting trichinosis (worms) from eating bush meat however Africa and to a lesser extent Asia is seen as more heavily infested. Americans get bubonic plague from eating hares, yet Africa's diseases are seen as worse (ebola) even though they're equally life threatening.  
When I checked out actual forums where African people talked about eating bushmeat, it's almost never gorillas, leopards, or any other endangered species which PETA portrays it as. It's usually just grasscutter. Yet it's luridly portrayed as "these Africans eating a rat in the wild" while Americans bagging cottontails and squirrels is just normal and a rite of passage for youth in this area.
  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.37.196.175 (talk) 06:35, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is the same stuff not called 'bushmeat' in America? 

message: This article verged on being an anti-globalization rant, and contained some factual errors. I have no opinion on the hunting of apes for meat, so I removed weasel words, softened some of the assertions, and qualified the generalizations. In addition, I removed the sentences about apes learning sign language, as they are totally inaccurate. No linguists accept that theory, and it has passed into the annals of urban legends. Thorough debunkings of this myth are available; one of the more accessible ones is Steven Pinker's book The Language Instinct (he gives detailed references as well if you want more information). Koko's case in particular has been thoroughly debunked. I don't wish to start any kind of flame war, but if someone wants to assert that apes have "learned sign language", they will need a lot of documentation or original research (which should be submitted to linguistics journals for our collective edification).
That aside, appeals to sympathy (such as for Koko the Ape) do not belong in an NPOV article. The article could use some more rewriting work for brevity and style as well.
Jeeves 21:28, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV rewrite

message: I have removed the heavily POV point about cannabilism and the systematic attempt to get links to the border-line "Genocide" page. Wolves stalk and consume dogs; lions eat cheetahs. No one calls this cannabilism--and while a human being eating a chimp may be unwise, unhealthy and unethical it ain't cannabilism. Marskell 12:36, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cannabilism schmannabilism 

message: I added some information on organizations that are working to solve the bushmeat crisis via the Bushmeat Crisis Task Force as well as adding information about bushmeat orphans. I also corrected some information on a logging company in Republic of Congo (incorrectly referred to as "CIV" - it's actually CIB). A previous editor pointed to CIB as one of the bigger culprits in the trade; CIB is one of the few companies that has been playing an active role in addressing the trade within its range. Finally, I added links for PASA, BCTF and the Bushmeat IMAP. - Natalie Bailey 2006 March 07
When. why and after what campaigning CIV/CIB, undoubtedly one of the biggest in their trade, changed policys? Since they are one of the few very big companys involved , they would still be a major threat to species? Can they be put on a scale or line, with other involved consession-taking party's? Like this it means nothing to me, but that: CIB sponsors some preservation campaigns in france (or some such). Wich may very well be to cover up the definetly substantial damage they still do.(eg. compared to many small or tiny companys?)
I would like some information on these matters.80.57.243.100 11:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Added information and corrected some 

message: I'm sorry, but this article is total bullshit. Transwiki to Wiktionary for people who come across the term, and delete this nonsense. People cannot be blamed for eating available food when hungry, be it turkeys, snails, cats, dogs, elephants, whatever.  Will list on VfD later.
:Um, go ahead, but it will most assuredly be speedily kept over there. The problem with bushmeat isn't that people eat it; it's that people trade it. This creates all sorts of problems with conservationists, from whom the bulk of the criticism comes. — Amcaja 15:46, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Full agree on the bullshit allegation, and looked for a good place to put it.  I'm willing to forgive issues in the body of an article, but the first section seems pointless as it sort of circles the idea that bushmeat is bad and that it threatens endangered species with extinction and there are international efforts to try to regulate and/or stop it but none of the disconnected statements actually SAY this idea in a clear manner, and then it needs to be decided if that (for lack of a better word) "angle" is where the article should start from.  Personally, I think the politics and threats to wildlife, etc... merit a separate section in the body and have no place in the head.  I'm here, btw, from reading about "ebola" and it names "bushmeat" as a possible source of infection, and I'm skeptical and came here to find out if there is anything to it.  If bushmeat is a vector for the transmission of ebola to humans, I certainly believe that merits a separate section also66.25.161.136 (talk) 04:18, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: A more complete (and referenced) piece on Ebola has been added.  However, it was not given it's own section.  Hopefully it adequately covers the conflict between the need for food and the risk associated with the practice.  – Maky « talk » 05:36, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useless 

message: hi all, i spent about 20 minutes figuring out what the 'which lumber was produced by reliance on ape meat' was about.  admittedly, i skimmed the prior article, so i missed the first time the discussion of the lumber industry's role.  hopefully my backreference well help.  a better discussion of the lumber industry's role would be nice, though.  also, 'actors' may not be a very useful section title.  i'll keep thinking about how to better convey this, but it's late right now. --hamstar 07:32, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  which 'lumber' ? 

message: The wikilink to resolution points to a disambiguous page. I have no idea which page is should point to instead.
STHayden 23:31, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Resolution 

message: Someone went way overboard in discussing the difference between the human and ape response to the HIV response.  Lots of possibly good info, certainly interesting, but irrelevant to this article.  Relevant is discussion of the role bushmeat plays/has played in bringing HIV to the human population (pivotal, AFIAK), and possibly a _very_ brief mention of how it is possible for humans to be affected so much worse than simians.
The deleted section also seems to blur the distinction between chimps and monkeys.  Chimps are not monkeys; they are apes.  It is possible that the author understands this distinction, but the writing jumps too abruptly from discussion of HIV to SIV, making a lot of assumptions both of the readers knowledge and about analogies between HIV in humans and SIV in simians.
--Rschmertz 01:20, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I did a research paper on primate bushmeat last year for my English final, maybe I can dig it out. I know I read it in a book so it's not just internet jabber. Ungovernable ForceGot something to say? 05:36, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  HIV 

message: In any other part of the world, this "bushmeat" would simply be called hunting. So why does this page exist, really? The whole idea is biased/racist. When white people shoot animals for food in any continent besides Africa, it's hunting; when black people do it in Africa, because they're hungry and/or poor, it's BUSHMEAT and they require international censure. Obviously the hunting of endangered species is a problem, but this seems to put it in a weird, ethnic context.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.28.115.135 (talk) 07:17, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV again

message: Under the 'hunting' heading,
Though some bushmeat hunters have been targeting the gorilla, chimpanzee, and bonobo, as well as other primate species, great apes constitute less than 1 % of bushmeat sold on the market. This has distressed many conservationists and advocates of animal rights and great ape personhood.
kinda makes it sound like conservationists are concerned that not enough bushmeat comes from primates. I can't really be bothered rewording though.115.64.119.85 (talk) 14:14, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: lol

message: I don't understand what the difference is between bushmeat and hunting in other parts of the world, and why there is a special word and a separate (and quite long) Wikipedia article about this word. I think this article needs to be at least partly rewritten. Maybe it should be split up into one article about the extinction risk of some animals and the hunting of those animals.
- 20100324  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.48.88.99 (talk) 06:22, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Hard to understand

message: I don't have time to add the material in, but there was an interesting article from the BBC that discusses illegal imports to Europe and the use of bushmeat as a luxury item: Illegal bushmeat 'rife in Europe'  – VisionHolder « talk » 11:47, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Another excellent source: Confiscated bushmeat 'poses virus threat' and the source.  In addition to talking about the risks involved, it also talks about the smuggling of bushmeat into Western countries in order to supply a luxury meat market, with tons of material being smuggled each week, including endangered species. – VisionHolder « talk » 23:04, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New study/source for future expansion 

message: Soooo, 1% concerns great apes? That's bad. WHAT DOES THE REMAINING 99% CONTAIN??  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.215.97.26 (talk) 16:07, 4 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of material 

message: What is the meat of animals that live in the natural habitats of South America called?--95.91.122.101 (talk) 06:53, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rain Forests 

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message: Smallpox literally does not exist anymore. Out of the 7 billion humans on the planet, there are zero with smallpox. We eradicated it. Just because smallpox MAY have transferred to humans thousands of years ago does not mean it is a current risk. I am honestly disappointed in whoever added that to the article (and disappointed in all the editors who let it remain for so long). 72.136.101.49 (talk) 13:20, 23 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  I removed a line from this article saying that there was a risk of smallpox (and other diseases) transferring to humans. 

message: Why is this article not simply merged with hunting? Is that not what this article is describing? Maximum70 (talk) 14:32, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hunting 

message: WE DONT EAT BUSH MEAT 86.113.38.167 (talk) 02:56, 26 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drc bush meat slander