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Talk:François Leguat

message: The formatting of all the references in this article have been changed from using the more usual citation and Harv templates. Why wasn't this change discussed here on this talk page? To quote from WP:CIT: "Templates may be used or removed at the discretion of individual editors, subject to agreement with other editors on the article. Because templates can be contentious, editors should not add citation templates, or change an article with a consistent citation format to another, without gaining consensus."
I don't believe the changes are an improvement. Although the MOS doesn't specify a particular format for references, I believe that a consistent style would make Wikipedia easier to use. The Citation/Cite templates are used in many thousands of articles. I see no advantage in introducing small caps.
I have additional problems with the changes. The citations to the Hakluyt edition in the Footnotes now use what I believe is one of the editor's first names – Pasfield. The normal convention is to use the last name which in this case would be Oliver. However, I had used instead Luguat as the first author of the Hakluyt edition – the editor supplied footnotes but I believe the text is exactly as in the English edition of Luguat's original publication – for this reason I kept Luguat as the author but included "Edited and annotated by S. Pasfield".  But I'm pleased that we now have more links to Google books – I searched but didn't find these. I notice that the books were scanned in August 2009. Aa77zz (talk) 14:57, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Referencing
Talk:Nodding disease

message: Someone should probably take out the word 'victim.' Someone who's not me. 12.210.177.49 01:52, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: done EdwardLane (talk) 16:01, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: "Victim"

message: link This can be used as a source. --Harizotoh9 (talk) 08:57, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New CNN article  
Talk:Oliver Lang

message: There aren't any untruths in this page; in fact, it's a nice, accurate little article. Unfortunately, it makes a lot of claims that should - and need - to be backed up with citations, especially since these are the kind of claims that can be easily backed up (unlike most of the rest of the Paintball category, unfortunately). I suppose the Dynasty website could be plundered for citations, but I don't have the time right this moment. If anyone chooses to work on this before I do, you'll have my personal gratification, whatever that might be worth. :) Thanks! ~ Maximilli, 05:24, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations

message: He plays for San Diego Dynasty now.
No he joined up with Dynasty this year(2008)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.174.194.166 (talk) 02:22, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Teams
Talk:Maurice Raynaud

message: It was another Maurice Raynaud that had a seat in the French government. Tostarpadius (talk) 11:45, 4 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a minister 
Talk:Salman al-Murshid

message: Are even a single of them reliable? FunkMonk (talk) 08:06, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 
Talk:Yann Fouéré

message: I object to listing the Identitarian movement and the Nouvelle Droite as influences. Most of the influences of the Nouvelle Droite would be from the GRECE think thank.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:8084:C543:BD80:ADED:70CF:1173:AFA5 (talk) 21:55, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influences
Talk:Kram (musician)

message: Of course this page should be split by a disambiguation page.  It seems ridiculous that it isn't.  If no-one disagrees I will change it soon Nicwright 05:10, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: disambiguation

message: That can't be right. The article on Spiderbait says that they had their first gig at Kram's 21st, before the group moved to Melbourne and became Spiderbait. Heepman1997 (talk) 13:49, 4 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  1974? 

message: Anyone has them, searched them and only find Kasabian - Underdog wrongly announced as the song :(
Thank you  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.83.173.242 (talk) 23:52, 4 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lyrics - OST Takers - The Best Thing?
Talk:Victor Prosper Considerant

message: Added a "Citation needed" tag to the statement, which seems dubious. That school is and always has been a military school where nobody would study art and music (at least as a major). No trace of art and music studies on the French Wikipedia article on Considerant. Vincent Lextrait (talk) 20:13, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Studied art and music at École Polytechnique?
Talk:Claude Balon

message: There seems to be considerable information about dances that Balon performed.
See:
the 1704 Feuillet collection, held in the French National Library (BNF).
For instance, on page 74 (in the original numbering) we find: "Entrée Espagnolle pour un homme et une femme. Dancée par Mr. Balon et Mlle. Subligny au Ballet de l'Europe galante". Music by André Campra. Choreography by Louis-Guillaume Pécour. 
The music is a rondeau in 3 from the dance suite of the opera. This is in the form abaca, with each section 12 bars. Each section is rhythmically divided in half and the dance sequences reflect this, with 6 bar sections that often repeat the steps in the second half with variations on the first half. 
Despite the fact that a great part of the music of operas in this period was for dance, currently opera articles in the Wikipedia seem only to mention the singers.
--AJim (talk) 16:50, 6 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  a hint
Talk:Exarch

message: I have removed the statement that the above term has fallen into disuse.  This is untrue.  As an Eastern Rite Catholic (Ukrainian), I can find no replacement term. Am I now a sui iuris Catholic? auto-cephalus Catholic?  Come on. Yes, the canon law terms have changed but the identification of these churches has not.EastmeetsWest 05:11, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Eastern Rite Catholic Churches

message: The Byzantine exarch obviously is another breed entirely than the religious titles. The article should be split in two. -- Hurven (talk) 19:54, 18 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split 

message: The article Exarchate is currently in rather poor shape. Shouldn't we move the content of this article to Exarchate so that everything is together in one article? Marcocapelle (talk) 19:27, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move and merge?
Talk:Albert Roux

message: Can someone confirm (either way) the claim that Le Gavroche was Britain's first Michelin-starred restaurant?  The restaurant's own Wikipedia page, and its own official website (linked from the Wiki page) say that it was the first in Britain to be awarded three stars - but not that it was the first to get one. Haydn01 10:25, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Michelin stars
Talk:Hill's Pet Nutrition

message: The earliest use of the name Hill's Pet Nutrition was in 1994. When Colgate-Palmolive merged with Riviana Food the company was still referred to as Hill Packing Company.
The state of Kansas shows the original application to use this name was on the 11 January 1993</b>
Delaware has a Hills Pet Nutrition with an incorporation date of the 12 May 1969  FILE # 0712623
This leads me to believe Riviana Foods changed or added the name.
Isn't it misleading to refer to Burton Hill's company and their activities in the early 1900s as Hill's Pet Nutrition?  The Pet Nutrition aspect comes from Dr. Mark Morris Sr. in the 1940s, who later contracted the Hill Packing Company to can his dog food. 
 The company was an existing pet food company before Dr. Mark Morris Sr. The ownership of the current company (factory) is clearly descended from Burton Hill's company. The product first produced KD Diet and the marketing directly to vets. was a major innovation in the industry. That said Hill's pet nutrition still produces and sells "plan" dog food.
I have copies of the agreement between Hill's and Dr. Morris. I'll try to post them to the talk in the next few days. 
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.255.176.81 (talk) 01:50, 29 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: References for the use of the name Hill's Pet Nutrition

message: Reference: 
1)The Story of Topeka & Shawnee County By Spencer L. Duncan Chaper 3 pange 21: "Hills was founded in 1907: Historic Shawnee County"
Referance to the use of Hill Rendering
http://www.newspapers.com/clip/140418/artical_about_canning_with_referance_to/
2) The Food Packer Vance Publishing Corporation, 1955 page 20: "Hill Packing Co., Topeka, Kansas, makers of canned and frozen dog food products, is preparing one of the most aggressive, merchandising, and sales promotion programs in its 45-year history"..... "Burton Hill, president and manager"
3) Veterinary News, Volumes 14-15 New York State Veterinary Medical Society., 1951 - Veterinary medicine:  "Progress in small animal nutrition and disease treatment recently made great forward strides when Mr. Burton Hill, president of the Hill Packing Co., Topeka, Kansas, announced he would produce and distribute Dr. Mark L. Morris' "Prescription Diets"
4) Processing & Freezing, Volume 19, Ginn-Schrock., 1954 - Frozen foods Page 33:  "Frozen U. S. Inspected Horsemeat was made public by Burton Hill, President and founder of the Hill Packing Co., Topeka, Kansas. This new overwrap developed hy the Marathon Corp. gives defrosting protection as well as possessing eye ..."
Vincentdavis (talk) 03:52, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extra Ref
Talk:Paul Colin (artist)

message: I feel like there should be *some* discussion of the obvious racist caricature this artist used among the absolutely glowing discussion of his work.... 2600:4041:5D12:E000:68BD:B45F:636:96 (talk) 15:17, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Racist depiction  

message: It seems unlikely that Alexandre Marie-Colin, mentioned twice in the article, could have been the brother of Paul Colin. Alexandre lived, apparently, from 1798-1875, and Paul Colin was born in 1892.  These artists may have been related, but surely cannot be brothers. 75.172.93.137 (talk) 16:02, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artist's "brother"
Category talk:Quartz varieties

message: I think that this contribution would be better termed "Silica Varieties", rather than "Quartz Varieties". If you look at the definition of quartz in Wikipedia, it includes a particular crystal structure, or at least highly related polymorphs. Essentially, "quartz" refers to a crystalline framework with a specific topology/connectivity. Therefore, counting tridymite, cristobalite,  stishovite and coesite is wrong as they are all distinct frameworks, with different crystal structures and therefore different mineral names.
Similarly flint, petrified wood, opal etc, are not truly crystalline, and therefore should not be included as a "quartz variety". I'd recommend changing the name to "Varieties of Silica". I'd like to haer some other comments.--Octopodes 05:15, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd have to agree with you - I created this category back in 2004 as part of the mineral classification project I was doing then and it is a misnomer. Silica varieties seems too chemical, maybe varieties of silica minerals or just silica minerals? Shouldn't be too much of a change as only 42 articles are categorized here and a few of them need recating (quartz porphyry?) Vsmith 05:34, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Raymond Oliver

message: ==Untitled==
According to the French article, Raymond Oliver was born in 1909. The English article claims that Napoleon - among others - frequently ate at his restaurant. Even if the place should have existed during Napoleon's times already, this is of questionable relevance to the life of Raymond Oliver then.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Himbeerkuchen (talk • contribs) 07:20, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Napoleon?

message: According to the French article, Raymond Oliver was born in 1909. The English article claims that Napoleon - among others - frequently ate at his restaurant. Even if the place should have existed during Napoleon's times already, this is of questionable relevance to the life of Raymond Oliver then.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Himbeerkuchen (talk • contribs) 07:20, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I think I remember most of the claims in the article from books by him, famous guests, World War 2. The 3, 4 books of his I read were great fun.--Ralfdetlef (talk) 07:37, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced(?)
Talk:Stephen of Besançon

message: I had added a category for this person's birth, which somebody changed, which change was reversed, due to sockpuppetry. Looking at the changes, though, it seems that the first change might be the correct one. Where should Stephen's birth be categorized? Daniel the Monk (talk) 19:49, 19 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Birthdate Category
Talk:Gaston Berger

message: A pity. It's all copied from frWiki anyway. Arminden (talk) 15:38, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simone Weil and Resistance left out
Talk:Dimitri Tikovoï

message: This whole article is unsourced short of one reference I just added. While it isn't particularly contentious, a lot of it does seem to come from one or more sources affiliated with the subject. I'm basing this on the wording and a quite high percentage of IP edits. An example is this one .
Interesting is also the claim of In parallel Dimitri has been writing for movies such as [...] and Kevin McDonald movie "State of Play". While IMDb isn't necessarily a valid source and Hollyword works in mysterious ways, the credit as only 'drummer'  and not 'composer' of score or a track is noteworthy and speaks against the claim.
The rather frequent updates of who he is working with also indicates edits by an affiliate. The page of his management company  lists track credits, 1: is that a reliable source? and 2: should the section be cut down to "noteworthy tracks/albums/..."? -- Katana (talk) 23:52, 14 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced and potentially biased
Talk:1988 NBA draft

message: Do you think that there should be a preface stating that there were no hall of fame caliber players in this draft and compare it to the 1999 draft (or 2001, cand remember... the one with Kenyon Martin + Darius Miles)... I don't want to write it... I'd flip it up... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Heyhasanyoneseenmyappendix (talk • contribs) 06:18, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments
Talk:Jean-Georges Vongerichten

message: Just wondering, why does Vong redirect here? If someone looked up Vong on Wikipedia, I'm sure they were looking for Yuuzhan Vong.
Forgot to sign. --75.63.64.141 08:05, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yuuzhan Vong 

message: Which language is the pronunciation supposed to be in? It was linked to English, but isn't. Nor is it French. My best guess is German, but it's not a good fit for that either. kwami (talk) 07:48, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any evidence that he actually pronounces his own name in this way? It is not uncommon for people from Alsace to insist on a « french » pronunciation for last names that look german. GL (talk) 16:06, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Beats me. kwami (talk) 00:47, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  pronunciation 
Talk:Henri Mignet

message: The Ellis & Jones ref contains comprehensive biographical details of Mignet's life, but no evidence there of furniture making. After WWI, Mignet built radios for a living, and made at least one camera. Later he did raise chickens to sell as meat, but no evidence of having children before getting married. I don't have access to Plane & Pilot, nor Bowers, ref, so can't verify there. Any comments? PeterWD (talk) 12:15, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It is Plane and Pilot that claims he was a furniture maker. I added that ref so I have it here. It says "Mignet was a furniture manufacturer and he impishly named his creation "Le Pou de Ciel," or Louse of the Sky." I will admit that it is not the most authoritative guide, so if you think it is apocryphal then go ahead and remove it. - Ahunt (talk) 12:23, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Of note this ref used in the article also says he was a "Furniture designer"! I also checked the Bowers reference, which is quite authoritative, and Bowers does not mention any vocations in connection with Mignet. - Ahunt (talk) 12:25, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks again. I'm guessing that CMF picked the info from WP article here. I'll draft something soon, but unhappy right now about other editor's actions elsewhere.PeterWD (talk) 12:52, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Now amended occupation to radio engineer. Also place of death corrected to Pessac, in department Gironde; no reliable ref for that, but French WP made that change in 2007, arguably more plausible. See also alignment with articles Flying Flea and Mignet HM.14. PeterWD (talk) 16:09, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Doubtful content
Talk:Yves Chaudron

message: The story of Yves Chaudron creating 6 Mona Lisa copies, stealing the original, then selling to 6 different buyers is suspiciously similar to the core plot of the Doctor Who serial City of Death. But who stole from whom? Did the Doctor Who writer David Fisher know about the 1932 story about Yves Chaudron somehow and borrow it for his script? Or is the whole Wikipedia article about Yves Chaudron an invention? Did some prankster Doctor Who fan turn the City of Death plot into a Wikipedia article to see if someone would notice? All 5 references in the Chaudron article are Google Books links, none lists a page number. 3 look strange to me: "Leonardo's Lost Princess" looks like it's about a different painting. The book "The Man who Stole the Mona Lisa" looks like a novel, so I'm not sure how that's supposed to prove anything, maybe it has a foreword saying 'based on a 1932 news story'?. The book "Leonardo" is about the artist, Google Books Search says it doesn't contain the words Valfierno or Chaudron and yet is this book used as reference for the claim that Valfierno sold Chaudron's fakes for $300k. On the other hand The New Encyclopedia of American Scandal reference looks ok, the Chaudron story is indeed on p. 273. But I can't see where they got the story from, they don't mention a 1932 news article or a Karl Decker. I just hope they didn't take the story from Wikipedia. I really, really hope this article just has a few not-so-great references instead of being completely fake. Cheers. 93.237.12.163 (talk) 00:19, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: After more googling I think the Chaudron story came first and Doctor Who built upon it, so this article is real and just very badly sourced. 93.237.12.163 (talk) 00:59, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who stole from whom?
Talk:Jean Guyon

message: A fairly detailed biography of this fellow can be found here.  It is a sourced article on a genealogy website.  I don't care enough to verify or add any of it, but I think this site could be a great starting point for someone who does.  CharacterZero | Speak 22:42, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bio 

message: I've added a link to Inside Entertainment. Another external link shows the family trees that link Madonna and Camilla Parker Bowles. Although it's tabloid journalism, I included it just as proof that there has been modern-day mention of Jean Guyon in relation to Madonna, etc.
*Found a more legitimate Ottawa Citizen article too. Canuckle 22:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous descendants 

message: As there are more than one Jean Guyon out there, I recommend changing to "Jean Guyon-dit-Boisson". Any discussion?
Canuckle 22:45, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change to article title? 
Talk:Frédéric Fekkai

message: The 1st paragraph says that he moved to NY in 1979, and the given ref supports this statement. The second paragraph says that in 1979 he moved to Paris, and then moved to NY only 3 years later. The given ref supports this.
(At least) One of these references must be garbage. But have no idea which. 51.154.145.205 (talk) 12:13, 9 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: When did he move to NY?

message: I have nominated this page for deletion. Since its inception, it has vacillated between being a stub and puffery. Horse Badorties (talk) 22:14, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Nominated for Deletion
Talk:Thierry of Chartres

message: Looking over some sources, it seems that the general English standard for his name is "Theodoric" instead of the French form "Thierry."  I propose that this article use "Theodoric" (while noting that Thierry is also acceptable).  The Behnam 05:23, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  English naming convention 
Talk:Jean Marc Gaspard Itard

message: SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:52, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New article  

message: Someone wrote a pretty good draft at Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Jean Marc Gaspard Itard, elements of which can probably be incorporated here. MatthewVanitas (talk) 22:00, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: , I will have a look over the next day or two.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 22:43, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  , I had a look, and because none of the sources are available to me, many of them are quite old, and some of the information is at odds with other sources, I'm not comfortable merging the content into this article.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:32, 5 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No worries, just bringing it up in case. Thanks for giving it a look to make sure. MatthewVanitas (talk) 16:18, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lots of addable content at draft AFC
Talk:André Julien, Comte Dupuy

message: Note:  Project Banner with Puducherry workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article falls under :Category:Puducherry or its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate , please undo my changes and update/remove the relavent categories to the article --  Amartyabag  TALK2ME 09:46, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:INDIA]] Banner/Puducherry Addition
Talk:Joseph Beauvollier de Courchant

message: Note:  Project Banner with Puducherry workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article falls under :Category:Puducherry or its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate , please undo my changes and update/remove the relavent categories to the article --  Amartyabag  TALK2ME 09:47, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:INDIA]] Banner/Puducherry Addition
Talk:The Snow Maiden (1952 film)

message: An anonymous editor's edit summary on April 2 said "Documented copyright status with copyright.gov, rather than a private Russian site (in Russian)."
That "private site" is a Russian Federal Agency, so I definitely think that it is relevant... I added the information back in. Esn (talk) 21:35, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright status
Talk:The Human Factor (The Outer Limits)

message: At the moment, this redirects to The Human Factor (1963 The Outer Limits).  However, once a page is created for The Human Factor (2002 The Outer Limits), the target of this redirect should be changed to The Human Factor (disambiguation), since The Human Factor (The Outer Limits) could refer to either the 1963 or 2002 versions. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:23, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect target
Talk:Champfleury

message: My notes don't have a source for the Murger/Marcello reference. It was probably Groos & Parker (referenced in the Boheme article), or if not that, then perhaps Seigel (referenced in the Murger article), but I don't have either on hand to check.  The website http://www.operastoriesonline.com/preview.html mentions it, saying that Marcello is based on Champfleury, Lazare, and Tabar. That's exactly what my own notes say, so I assume the author of that site was reading the same book I was. Iglew (talk) 02:52, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Marcello