Talk:Piccolo

message: The joke remarks have ABSOLUTELY no place in an excyclopedic article.  Please send me your thoughts, let's come to a consensus here. - AustinBrister 12:28, 30 April 2008 (MST)
evidenced by the joke circulating among musicians that defines a minor second as "two piccolos playing in unison". I'm not sure these remarks are appropriate. TheScotch 08:35, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Casting aspersions

message: Re: "A typical flute section may include only one or two piccolos.... It would help if the article distinguished "sections" in band and orchestra. Orchestra scores typically have woodwinds either in two's or in three's. Woodwinds in two's typically exclude piccolo, English horn, and bass clarinet, whereas woodwinds in three's tend to have two flutes and one piccolo or three flutes with one piccolo double. It's rare to have two piccolos in an orchestra score. TheScotch 08:51, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Clarity

message: Actually italian name for piccolo is "Ottavino". Maybe this is an ancient name in italian language. If it's so, it should be satated out. --ChemicalBit 11:16, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Its name in Italian is "flauto piccolo" 

message: Who is Todd Goodman? If he's a notable composer, why does he have no Wikipedia article yet?
65.213.77.129 (talk) 19:02, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability? 

message: It is known that Vivaldi wrote a Concerto for piccolo. Should we add this?? OboeCrack (talk) 13:31, 15 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vivaldi 

message: Shouldn't there be a note somewhere on how hard piccolos are to tune and keep in tune and why(due to usually being made out of two or more different materials,if I remember correctly)? 4.131.206.203 (talk) 21:53, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not only is that original research without any references, it is of trivial importance to an encyclopedic entry on this instrument, especially since it varies by individual experience and musicianship (and possibly quality of the instrument). DKqwerty (talk) 22:14, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

text: The frequency in Hertz is dependent upon the precise tuning of the instrument.  A is not always equal to 440Hz, for instance.  Powers T 18:59, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tuning? 

message: Antonio Vivaldi did, in fact, write concertos for the piccolo.
If necessary I can get former Metropolitan Opera musicians, among others, to confirm this for you.
This reference should not be removed.EnglishHornDude (talk) 00:38, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no need to be so dramatic. If you simply listed a few here and gave a source or two to verify, that would led credence to your claim. Otherwise, it should be removed. And for the record, it's not a "reference"; a reference is what supports your addition, not the addition itself. DKqwerty (talk) 01:28, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As a matter of fact, transverse flute players generally were not very common in Italy in Vivaldi's day. Quantz tells a story in his Versuch about his first visit to Italy, when he asked no less a composer than Alessandro Scarlatti why he had never composed anything for the traverso. Scarlatti made disparaging remarks about the poor qualities of the instrument and its players, and Quantz was obliged to demonstrate its capabilities. Scarlatti was very impressed (according to Quantz, of course), but nevertheless did not subsequently compose anything for the instrument. Vivaldi's six published (in Amsterdam) concertos for the (transverse) flute, op. 10, are in the main arrangements from previously composed recorder concertos, and the presence of a viola part in the orchestra indicates the intervention of a north-European arranger (Vivaldi's orchestral strings usually are restricted to two violins and basso continuo). I have no doubt whatever that Metropilitan Opera musicians can confirm that there are "flautino" concertos by Vivaldi that can be played on the modern piccolo. They can also be played on the accordion or the saxophone (with suitable transposition), but this doesn't mean that Vivaldi composed them for those instruments. As DKqwerty says, what you need is a source that argues Vivaldi meant a small transverse flute, and not a small recorder. I believe that, even if you should succeed in finding one, you will discover the great majority of references will be against you.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 05:44, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vivaldi 

message: Currently the page reads: "The first known use of the word piccolo was in 1856,[5] though the English were using the term already some fifteen years earlier.[6]"
That sentence completely contradicts itself.
154.5.169.200 (talk) 17:08, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Well spotted.  Have you checked the sources to assess their relative reliability?—Jerome Kohl (talk) 06:35, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of term piccolo 

message: All modern flutes go down to at least a C, and often to B.  The piccolo only goes down to a D, and is therefore shorter than a half-size flute would be, as well as lacking in the foot-joint, and the lowest 3 or 4 notes.
Calling the piccolo a "half-size flute" is not unlike calling a ukulele a "quarter-sized guitar".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.89.176.249 (talk) 02:25, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a "half-sized flute" 

message: We must add this section to prevent people from irreversible injuries when using this instrument
Because high pitched sounds do more damage to hearing than low pitched sounds, the risk of hearing loss is greater with the piccolo than with a traditional flute. Added to the fact that the piccolo is much closer to the right ear than a flute would be. The sound intensity level of the piccolo can reach 112 db. 
https://www.uky.edu/~deen/Philharmonic/hearing_loss.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by CutterHammer (talk • contribs) 20:03, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not here to right great wrongs. Any instrument can cause hearing damage. But every article on instruments should not include that. Why? I Ask (talk) 23:01, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: And to even consider including it, we'd need a WP:RS that specifically makes the logical connections you are making here. Not just "piccolos can be loud" and "loud can cause hearing damage" and "piccolos are short", but the entire combination of those ideas, and ideally how piccolos are unusually problematic compared with other instruments. Wikipedia editors are not allowed to synthesize ideas to make our own conclusions or give undue weight to one idea or one instance beyond what refs specifically support. That CDC ref is a good overall ref for "band instrumentalists" but only has weak support for highlighting piccolos and no support for it being because piccolos are specifically loud or short. DMacks (talk) 23:25, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Health Risk