Talk:Aziz Herawi

message: Native people of Herat are those who have lived in the region known by many names and many spellings such Latin Aryia, came from Greek Source Aria, Old Persian-Haraiva, Middle Pashtu-Haraeuua, and Arabic Hiryrat modern Herat. Today people may have difficulty knowing or defining native Heratis, most people of Herat share the exact culture, tradition, and facial characteristics like the rest of their country man Afghans. However since years have past and globalization did takes place or it may specially during Arabs, when Islam was promoting intermarriages, Mongolian Timurids, further later during two Persian empires Safavid and Khwarezmian, perhaps like Persian invasion the Uzbeks invasion may also had some influence. So How do we define Heratis, conflict does arrive, what should we do? 
The only way back is trough tribal means, in order to define modern Heratis, we have figure the Ancient tribes of the region, perhaps  modern living tribe can trace to that linkage. 
Dear Bejnar  on January 16 2009 at 08:34 pm this article was changed by one of wikipedia user IP: IP:71.107.11.87 with the excuse that [u]he is a Pure Herati, and Pure heratis are Tajik[/u]. Well I could easily come up with my own conclusion to who were these "Pure Heraties" if we refer to sources provided by famous well known European/Greek Historian, Herodotus, mentioining a tribe brought from Herat areas known as Saga-Rhuthia or Sagartioi, founded in the capital of Aria. According to Herodotus, Persian imperial King Xerxes bought out this fierce warriors with a high price, his army had total of 8000 strong Sagartioi riders dressed as Persian like the rest of army but were close to their neighboring "Pactyans"Pakthas in Race, "Their weapon of choice were also of Pactyans".
According to Caroe he points out the Darrani. Which can be true I mean they have three major tribes all origin of Saka or Saga and one of those Panjpai sub-tribes maybe those in modern Herat could be Sag-A-ratieo (Sagartioi) of Herodotus. Please refer to Herodotus's book, also the book called THE PATHANS 55O B.C.-A.D. by OLAF CAROE, ST MARTIN'S PRESS 1958, now without any knowledge and with some 40% of Heratis are Pashtu speakers with some 75% connected with the rest of the tribes of the Afghanistan, its impossible to say Pure Heraties are are this or that or non-Afghans. One has to define Pure and then refer to historical texts. 
Again any source which supports their idea should be presented as Bejnar noted.
Thanks 
Alishah85 (talk) 05:07, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
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