Talk:Hyo Jin Moon

message: I find that as a UC member I am too emotionally involved to work on the articles on Rev. Moon's family, other members might not feel the same however.  Anyway I think there are serious problems with this article relative to WP policy. It opens up: "Hyo Jin Moon (born December 3, 1962) is a musician and multimedia executive producer."  Hyo Jin is certainly not notable for these things.  Neither are his problems and personal behavior so very notable.  The article seems to be saying that he is important because he should have become an important church leader but so far has not.  I'm sure that somewhere in WP policy there's one that says you can't write an article about what someone isn't.  Wishing everyone well. Steve Dufour 02:06, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article does read like a hit-piece now. Even if everything the article says is true or at least verifiable there we should not be creating a bill of indictment. Or giving so much detail about his problems. Let me see if I can shortern it.  ·:·Will Beback  ·:· 11:30, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Some comments

message: Hong wrote:
:"[Hyo Jin] grew up believing that there were no consequences for his misdeeds, and his parents, and the church hierarchy, did nothing to disabuse him of that notion."
This rings true to me. Many members felt they were "not in a position" to correct any lapses by the "sinless" True Children. 
But this seems like a tragic (if typical) misunderstanding of the responsibility of the general membership. My understanding is that members should have helped the Moons raise their children. 
In any case, it must be emphasized that church doctrine never said that the True Children were perfect. That is flatly contradictory to [[Unification theology], which clearly indicates that perfection is the final of three Stages of Growth; see Principle of Creation.
As a young member in the 1970s and 1980s, I repeatedly heard perplexing references to the "perfect" children in the True Family. I often asked people if they thought Rev. and Mrs. Moon's children were born "at the top of the completion stage".
I have seen references in Rev. Moon's speeches to back up my contention that it was some combination of the general membership and at least one "36 Blessed Couple" who were charged with raising Hyo Jin Moon and his siblings. It was certainly not any official church teaching that they were to "allowed to do whatever they wished". 
In my opinion, that is rank heresy and also a repetition of the tragic situation of the Fall of Man. Angels should have dissuaded Adam and Eve from following Lucifer's temptation. (I'll check and see if this is doctrine or just my opinion.) --Uncle Ed (talk) 02:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Born to be wild?

message: Two friends of mine in the church said Mr. Hyo Jin Moon passed away, from a heart attack today, March 16th, 2008 at around 10 pm Eastern Time. --Uncle Ed (talk) 05:18, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Breaking News

message: The article leaves out his second marriage, which was undoubtedly a happier one than the ill-fated marriage to Nansook Hong. He seems to have grown up some, nourished by a woman who better understood his inner demons. Here is from a Unification source:
:Hyo Jin Moon remarried in 1999. He has four children with his second wife Yun Ah Choi. Recently he took some positions in media enterprises and accompanied his mother on travels to Africa where he delivered public addresses in several nations.
:I saw him a few times when he spoke to the membership in Korea. He seemed to be genuinely concerned to make up for mistakes of his past. He apologized to the members. He expressed gratitude and respect for his parents and said he would be support his Father as long as he lives. 
--24.97.126.229 (talk) 22:16, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:RS for this? www.foreignlands.org doesn't appear to be particularly reliable. HrafnTalkStalk(P) 03:42, 28 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: His Second Marriage

message: Any particular reason this page redirects to his first wife Nansook Hong? --Uncle Ed (talk) 15:36, 30 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect