Talk:Template

message: Wikipedia:Avoid self-reference is a widely-accepted guideline, for reasons stated on that page.  Why do you think it should be ignored here, Zunaid?  Yes, the link at the top is useful for editors, but most visitors to Wikipedia aren't editors.  They'll just be confused and distracted by the link.  Any remotely experienced editor (probably almost all of those who know what a template is, in fact) will know to try Wikipedia:Template before just Template.  And anyone who tries editing the page, of course (meaning that ipso facto they're editors), will see the message anyway.  So why ignore the guideline here? —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 07:46, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Look, could people discuss this on the talk page when they revert?  There's an established Wikipedia guideline here that's supposed to represent a fairly broad consensus of editors.  Why do you think any substantial purpose is served by the self-reference?  Any editor experienced enough to have heard of templates will think to check Wikipedia:Template. —Simetrical (talk • contribs) 06:54, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I found the link helpful. I know better now of course. --2-bits 22:42, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Self-reference

message: # Template in the engineering sense
# Templates for artists
Anca 01:55, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs further information 

message: :* I'm too new here to figure out how to do that though. :) 131.107.0.73 00:25, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I feel for you ... I'm new too, though I have some time today to figure some of this stuff out.  It's not precisely transparent, but the fact that everything is editable actually serves to muddle me even further (LOL).  I'm still learning about how to use standard conventions, let alone how to do something as mystifying as disambiguation. Em3rald 20:20, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments:

message: As the consensus seemed to be to turn this into a disambiguation page, but
nobody was sure how to do so, I've now done so.  Where possible I've followed
the Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style_(disambiguation_pages), and linked to the most
appropriate topical article.  I've also linked to Wiktionary.
I've left Pattern in the see also section since it is closely related to a
template in general, but is it's own topic.  To adhere to the style guidelines some
of the extraneous details (especially for document templates, genetics, and orthopedic surgery)
have been simplified now.  If possible, put additional detail on an appropriate
topic page and not on this disambig page. -- Dmeranda 22:37, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Now a disambiguation page 

message: Reorganized the list and moved Stencil to 'see also' RCEberwein | Talk 09:53, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just Reorganized - no adds/deletes 

message: Some issues to consider:
* 1) "mail merge template" does not meet the definition of "standardized file types" as described in template (file format) (i.e., mail merge templates do not require a unique file extension); 
* 2) although a "mail merge" template is a template in the generic sense, it is also a regular document in the 'technical' sense (i.e., has the same file extension as other documents).
* 3) word processing document (e.g., *.doc) vs word processing template (e.g., *.dot) indicates mail merge meets the definition of 'document' more than 'template', because it (may) end in the *.doc extension; 
* 4) the mail merge article already links to this page as the definition for 'template', and this page links right back to the article, a bit circular; 
* 5) because of these factors, mail merge could feasibly be 'outlined' in many different ways, depending on how you look at it and how technically you define "document" and "template" (words that are inherently broad in scope).
because 'mail merge' has relevance as a kind of document, and because mail merge is depending on this page as a kind of definition, I moved mail merge in the relative position of the heirarchy in this page. dr.ef.tymac 22:50, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Circular reference is OK in this case considering that one may start with the mail merge page and then discover the broader usage of templates or the reverse. I also think the arrangement is working fine with your last edit. There's here enough that that any reader should understand the points you mention. If there is anything confusing about the subject, it should be clarified in the mail merge article. Oicumayberight 23:05, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  terminology and hierarchy collision 

message: A "Template system" IS NOT a "Template engine", need page to Disambiguation on
* Templating_system = Templating_systems = Template_system = Template_systems = NEED ARTICLE? it is about 
** Template engines AND
** Template Languages
* Web template system = well defined
:Ok, I am having a little trouble understanding, so I ask here for some clarification so we can immediately fix whatever is not working properly. If I did something to mess things up, I definitely apologize. Can you please describe: 
* 1) the specific link(s) or page(s) that is (are) not working the way you expected; and
* 2) what you consider the "correct" behavior/status of the item(s) in (1) above so we can address the situation. Thanks! dr.ef.tymac 09:11, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok I took a look at it and found (I think) the broken you were talking about. It is fixed now. Good eye in spotting it. Thanks! dr.ef.tymac 10:36, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template system?? (redirecting here) 

message: There's been a slow edit war over the following, at the top of the article:
For the kinds of templates used in Wikipedia, see Wikipedia:Template messages.
One camp says that this violates WP:SELF, the other camp says it doesn't.  Several other articles have similar warnings, such as Image, Good faith, and Style manual.
I think we may be confusing the issue here.  Rather than a self-reference, isn't this just more of a disambig notice?  -- Norvy (talk) 06:45, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not taking a side on the edit war, but I do think the distinction made by Norvy is correct. Having read WP:SELF this issue of helpful DAB links to WP content seems to be a grey-area. dr.ef.tymac 17:38, 27 January 2007 (UTC)

text: As I said, I am not taking a side in this debate (not yet anyway) but the grey area I suggested was based on seeing a lot of such links (that chocolateboy would refer to as 'broken') in the Main article namespace. If these are indeed *all* disfavored, then it'd be nice if WP:SELF were a bit more clear about this issue. I can see why some contributors may indeed think that DAB pages are appropriate exemptions from WP:SELF. Not saying that's a justifiable position, just saying it doesn't surprise me. I do see merit in choc's points however. dr.ef.tymac 19:47, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-Reference 2

message: Sorry, if I am not an expert but a slightly pernickety reader (I am consulting the encyclopedia) and I am trying to understand what the writer means by:
Template (software engineering), any processing element that can be combined with a data model and processed by a template engine to produce a result document. 
As template engine comes out of the blue would it be better to say "...a device called a template engine"... and explain what the expression meant LouisBB (talk) 22:36, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Better definition, please

message: As far as I can tell, none of the kinds of templates now listed in this disambiguation article, especially none under the heading "Computer science and information technology," resemble Wikipedia templates. If I am wrong, and one of the listed types is what Wikipedia templates are, it should say in that item's entry something like "Wikipedia templates are of this type." If I am wrong, then an additional type of template should be listed, namely Wikipedia templates. But, perhaps, Wikipedia templates were misnamed in the first place, and perhaps they should be known as Wikipedia Macros, though, even if this is right in retrospect, it's awfully late to make changes of this magnitude. Anomalocaris (talk) 22:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikipedia Templates

message: The Punjabi Kumhars have the following surnames (many of these surnames are also found among other castes):
http://www.kumharsamaj.com/gotra.asp,A glossary of the tribes and castes of the Punjab and North-West ..., Volume 3  By Horace Arthur Rose, Denzil Ibbetson (Sir)), Edward Douglas Maclagan (Sir))
Jhalli:ਝੱਲੀ ( حہ`لۓ), Bhopal:ਭੋਪਾਲ, Gill:ਗਿੱਲ, Dhillon:ਢਿੱਲੋਂ, Dubb:ਡੱਬ, TalePhear:ਤਲ਼ੇਫਿਆਰ/ਤਲਵਾੜ(Talwar), Kalsi:ਕਲਸੀ,Gohal:ਗੋਹਲ/ਗੋਹਿਲ, Kashav:ਕਸ਼ਵ, Malhi:ਮੱਲ੍ਹੀ,Khokhars:ਖੋਖਰ, Ahetan(अहीतान - ਅਹੀਤਾਨ),Akku:(अक्कू - ਅੱਕੂ), Atar:(अतर - ਅਤਰ),Atthi:(अट्ठी - ਅੱਠੀ), Badal:(बादल-ਬਾਦਲ), Baaj:(बाज - ਬਾਜ) Balhotra:(बल्होत्रा - ਬਲਹੋਤਰਾ), Benipal:(बेणीपाल - ਬੇਣੀਪਾਲ), Bhalerao:( भालेराउ - ਭਾਲੇਰਾਓ- بہالےراو), Bhardwaj: (भारद्वाज - ਭਾਰਦਵਾਜ), Blaggan:(बलग्गण - ਬਲੱਗਣ-Blagan/Ballagan), Chakretia:(चकरेटिया - ਚਕਰੇਟੀਆ [MP-INDIA]), Chammchandol:(चम्चंदोल - ਚੰਮਚੰਦੋਲ),Chandla:(चांदला - ਚਾੰਦਲਾ), Chandrani:(चंद्राणी - ਚੰਦਰਾਣੀ), Charchaulie:(चरचौलीये - ਚਰਚੌਲੀਏ), Chidimaar:(चिड़ीमार - ਚਿੜੀਮਾਰ [Chauhan]ਚੌਹਾਨ), Chind:(चिंद - ਚਿੰਦ),
Chond:(चोंड - ਚੋਂਡ), Dodia:(डोडीआ - ਡੋਡੀਆ), Doel(Deol):(डोल डिओल - ਡੋਲ-ਡਿਓਲ), Gola:(गोला - ਗੋਲ਼ਾ {mainly used by Kumhars in Madhya Pradesh}), Ghadiyal:(घड़ियाल - ਘੜਿਆਲ), Guleria:(गुलेरिआ - ਗੁਲੇਰੀਆ), Hampal:(हम्पाल - ਹਮਪਾਲ), Hathretia:(हथरेटिया - ਹਥਰੇਟੀਆ MP INDIA),
Jabali:(जबालिआ - ਜਬਾਲੀਆ), Jamba:(जम्बा - ਜੰਬਾ), Jamwal:(जम्वाल - ਜਮਵਾਲ਼),Jeed:(जीड़ - ਜੀੜ), Kaundal:(कौंडल - ਕੌਂਡਲ), Khambh:(खम्भ - ਖੰਭ),Khiva:(खीवा - ਖੀਵਾ){Main Architects of City Khiva the Heritage}, Ladwa:(लाडवा - ਲਾਡਵਾ), Lakhanpal:(लखनपाल - ਲਖਨਪਾਲ), Langdi:(लांगड़ी - ਲਾੰਗੜੀ), Lidder:(लिड्डर - ਲਿੱਢਰ), Lola:(लोला - ਲੋਲਾ), Mann:(मान - ਮਾਨ), Nazar:(नज़र - ਨਜ਼ਰ), Nizran:(निज़रान - ਨਿਜ਼ਰਾਨ), Pankhania:(पांखानिया - ਪਾਂਖਾਨਿਯਾ), Pansotra:(पंसोत्रा - ਪੰਸੋਤ੍ਰਾ), Rattan:(रत्न - ਰਤਨ), Salhotra:(सल्होत्रा - ਸਲ੍ਹੋਤ੍ਰਾ), Sangar:(संगर - ਸੰਗਰ), Sattani:(सत्तानी - ਸੱਤਾਨੀ), Sohal:(सोहल - ਸੋਹਲ), Sokhal:(सोख़ल - ਸੋਖ਼ਲ), Sogi:(सोगी - ਸੋਗੀ), Suetti:(सुत्ती - ਸੁੱਤੀ), Taddi:(टाडी-ढाडी - ਟਾਡੀ-ਢਾਡੀ [Dhadi]), Ubhoo:(उभ्भू-उभू - ਉੱਭੂ-ਉਭੂ [Ubhu]), Verka:(वेरका - ਵੇਰਕਾ).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kamaldevjhalli (talk • contribs) 06:40, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prajapati Clans 

message: An Iranian translator and journalist.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamdemad (talk • contribs) 15:09, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hamdollah Emadi Heydari 

message: I'd say the sense of template as stencil is more fundamental and woven into everyday language than any of the other senses, so it seems to me having the single word as a useful hyperlink is better for the encyclopedia than having it be a DAB. The simplest way to achieve this would be to move this page to 'Template (disambiguation)' and retarget the resulting redirect to stencil. Thoughts? — Charles Stewart (talk) 09:27, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this better be a redirect?