Talk:Cypriot Greek

message: I think that someone should add a section on the phonology of vowels in Cypriot Greek. Thanks, I'm merely an interested seeker.
1. I disagree strongly with the statement Using dialect conveys no social or educational inferiority. Whoever wrote it - do you live in Cyprus??? It is obviously not true! Αν λαλείς εσούνι αντί εσύ εν φκάλλεις γεναίκα στο Zoo ένεν (-: 
I believe there was a study at the University of Cyprus which showed speakers of dialect were perceived by Cypriot listeners as being stupider than speakers of kalamaristika.
2. Outside of such settings, however, two Cypriots do not speak Standard Greek with each other. - I think that these settings are related to class (and village/city) factors. I have heard Cypriots doing it.
The statement, to me, is also false, because (although we could argue about how rare or often it happens) it is a generalization.
3. No mention of Turkish, Arabic, English, Italian etc loan words, and non-Greek phonemes (j, ch, sh, the french j).
-Taramenos-
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On point 3: this is a wiki, go ahead and add information to the article. On points 1,2 : there is social-educational status related to the form of dialect used e.g εσούνι is not popular but τζιαι is etc. But who would use standard greek in everyday conversation? A softcore version of the dialect is not standard greek! Mavros 14:15, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Afiste to hip-hop mian pantan, eksiasete "eshievereven" hahaha!
P.S. if you want to learn the cypriot dialect, try visiting it for instance, you can't get this right without a vocal hearing.
If you're going to add words, add only a few important ones, because this isn't a dictionary website :\ (unless you succeed into making the dictionary a nice part of the article hehe). You might as well start adding words in wiktionary.--www.doc 12:15, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ta korakistika? ;) 

message: I am not Greek or Cypriot and have never been to Cyprus.  I am merely an amateur linguist who has studied modern Greek, so 
please forgive me if this suggestion sounds absurd...
In the syntax section, it is mentionned that there is a demonstrative, τζείνος, which corresponds to "that there". It seems to me however, that this exists in standard δημοτική, in the form of (ε)κείνος, and that the Cypriot τζείνος is simply the result of palatalisation, parallel to και --> τζιαι. Is τζείνος is syntactically or semantically different from κείνος in any way? If not, maybe it would be more correct to move this up to the phonology section.
Daniel, 15:12, 30 July 2006 (NZT)
Yes τζείνος functions as εκείνος both semantically and syntactically. I left it in syntax with a note that it is the same as εκείνος and also added it to the palatalisation rule as another example. --Taramenos 11:48, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  τζείνος, -η, -ο -- Is it really a syntactic characteristic of Cypriot Greek? 

message: Can anybody write a few words about poetry in the Cypriot Greek dialect?
Here is a start:
Ἑννάτη Ἰουλίου, Βασίλης Μιχαηλίδης
Please correct my polytonic. If someone can find a refence and check if this is exactly how Basilns Mixanlidns wrote it I would appreciate it. thanks. --Kupirijo 08:41, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Literature

message: Perhaps rather than just the technical aspects of the language
up to say 30 examples of standard greek, cypriot greek and its english transliteration should be added in table form, so people can gauge an understanding of the technicalities. For example, Kefali=Kelle/Tzefali=Head
Hello. I updated the hip-hop section of Music_of_Cyprus and added a link from this article. Also I removed the link to the interview with HCH because my putting it here in the first place was not objective. But I think it is important that this article includes some links to pages in cypriot, both modern and older (eg poetry as Kupirijo suggested).Taramenos 04:34, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lets add some words 

message: The article said that doubled consonants are pronounced geminated in Cypriot Greek.  What about ζ?  Is it pronounced  too? - Gilgamesh 22:02, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It depends. ζ is pronounced as zz in certain words such as ζιω/ζ'ω (I/to live) and is pronounced as z in words such as αζούλα (jealousy). WhiteMagick 10:08, 21 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Yes. It is pronounced as  and as  after iota semivowel. --Kupirijo (talk) 23:08, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ζ 

message: :I have created :Template:cyp and also :Template:κ, :Template:χ, :Template:σκ and :Template:κκ that give in the context of :Template:cyp . --Kupirijo (talk) 23:08, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Templates for diacritics

message: While συντυχχάνω and αρέσκει μου are not used (even if are somewhat straightforward what they mean for someone in Greece), λαλώ and πλάσματα are still used though in different occasions. Λαλώ is used for birds especially roosters, or as a joke for someone that went crazy ('λάλησε') and πλάσματα is used with the wider sense '(living) creatures'. So I think these words should be excluded or at least they should be included as slightly different meaning words.--Κλειδοκράτωρ (talk) 16:34, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Words not used in Standard Greek? 

message: This is 100% a leftist propaganda who want to create an ethnogenesis (a new “Cypriot ethnic group”) via linguistics. There is no diglossia among Greek Cypriots because Cypriot Greek is not a language, and according to ethnologue there is no linguistic code like with the Pontic Greek. In Cyprus, the dialect is reportedly more similar to Classical Greek in vocabulary and grammar than that spoken in Greece.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Λεωνιδας 333 (talk • contribs) 17:10, 26 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Where does it say that it is a language? "Cypriot Greek (Greek: κυπριακή ελληνική) is the variety of Modern Greek..." We due respect, take your nationalist opinions out of Wikipedia and don't bother posting such comments without the appropriate secondary sources to back them up - in this case a few good sources on the history of language and linguistics. Cypriot Greek contains a whole lot of Arabic, Turkish, Ancient Greek, Italian and English, for the record. Nationalists popping up on Cyprus articles from both sides is becoming extremely annoying. Thankfully Wikipedia's structure allows for referenced material not to be censored based on ideological prejudice.--Tco03displays (talk) 20:15, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is 100% a leftist propaganda  

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message: As this sections states at the beginning, there is a blatant lack of references throughout the entire mini-section. I suggest more thorough research be done here, especially since there are a few bold claims.
In the vowels section, Themistocleous 2017 is linked twice. Amondoloka (talk) 21:52, 17 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  History Refs