Talk:Heroes

message: As detailed in this page's edit history, there is a dispute over whether this page should redirect to Heroes (TV series) or Hero (disambiguation). It originally redirected to Hero as the plural form of that word, but consensus was to redirect it to the dab page so that other uses—including, but not limited to the TV series—could be more easily found. 
Secondarily, we need to decide and agree on whether this redirect should be fully protected from all edits or not. Full protection and consensus will avoid any further disputes. Ace Class Shadow; My talk. 22:49, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summary of the issue 

message: * Question: Should the redirect page go to Hero, Heroes (TV series) or Hero (disambiguation)?
* Method: Add #Support ~~~~ to one of the following level two subsections. An additional, brief comment is optional.
==== Redirect to Hero ====
==== Redirect to Hero (disambiguation) ====
#I support this -- thither 03:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survey I: Redirection 

message: #I support this -- thither 03:33, 18 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect to Hero (disambiguation) 

message: Should the redirect page be protected or not? Add #Support or #Oppose and ~~~~ (an additional, brief comment is optional.)
#Support seems to me that no matter what the result is, there are going to be people who keep on vandalizing it. --TorriTorri(Talk to me!) 01:34, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survey II: Protection 

message: Add "* Support" or "* Oppose" or other opinion in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~
* Support it has been three months since the previous discussion and the TV show is quite popular and should have Heroes redirect to it. --Barryob  Vigeur de dessus 01:00, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survey 

message: How can we get the ball rolling to have Heroes moved to Heroes_(disambiguation)? (71.178.144.33 16:26, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have created Heroes (disambiguation), does it seem okay? Then perhaps next we can change this page to redirect to it instead of Hero (disambiguation). Cheers – ARC GrittTALK 21:41, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  P.S. I have not changed anything in Hero (disambiguation). – ARC GrittTALK 21:44, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirection done right 

message: Since there were no objections on the Hero (disambiguation) talk page, I removed the heroes names from that page. This redirect should now go to Heroes (disambiguation). --Hasdrabion 13:04, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Articles are split 

message: Please keep the subjects in order of importance. This is done one other disambig pages as well and there is really no point to have 95% of the users scroll through the page in order to find the thing that should have been placed on top. Alphabetical ordering is only appropriate if there are several things of equal importance on the page. The Heroes TV series or the Heroes of Might and Magic gaming series are much more evolved than the other pages listed, so there seems to be a bigger interest in these topics. --84.178.115.248 10:12, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Reverted - this has been discussed before, when the page was part of the "Hero" dismabiguation. --Ckatzchatspy 17:11, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Reverted - This was indeed discussed before.  As I recall, you made a shoddy argument, I rebutted it, and you declined to reply.  I then rearranged the page in a sensible manner, and it remained thus until this disambig page was split from it.  Alphabetical order doesn't make a bit of sense.  Let's try and actually make this page useful to readers, yes? unless 20:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The proper order has been restored. I'm not sure what discussion you're referring to; apologies if I've missed it, but I couldn't find anywhere on the "Hero" or "Heroes" pages where you and I spoke about this. The correct order is alphabetical, not based on popularity. --Ckatzchatspy 22:28, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I appreciate your efforts to resolve this reasonably.  After reviewing Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages), I realized that this page was seriously not in compliance.  I've gone ahead and edited it to bring it within those guidelines.  As far as alphabetical order goes, the MoS has no mention of it, and indeed says "In most cases, place the items in order of usage, with the most-used meanings appearing at the top and less common meanings below." unless 23:04, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ordering of the subjects 

message: Please add  to the top of this redirect, or just move the malplaced (disambiguation) page here. -- JHunterJ 10:46, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If I interpret the above request correctly, the result would be to delete this page and move Heroes (disambiguation) here in its place. However, the consensus of a move discussion was to use this page as a redirect to Heroes (disambiguation). Unfortunately, it appears that the talk page wasn't moved at the same time, and a few comments have since been left at Talk:Heroes (disambiguation). The best way to clean this up is to move this page to Talk:Heroes (disambiguation), and then merge the comments that are already there. Heroes should then be left as a redirect to Heroes (disambiguation). Thoughts? --Ckatzchatspy 18:26, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The (disambiguation) page shouldn't be a redirect from the base name.  (disambiguation) pages are only needed when there is a primary topic article (or redirect) at the base name -- see Wikipedia:WikiProject Disambiguation/Malplaced disambiguation pages.  I think the fix here would be to merge the comments to Talk:Heroes (disambiguation), delete this page, and move Heroes (disambiguation) here in its place (along with the merged Talk). -- JHunterJ 21:52, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough... it was more a concern that this page would be deleted without any record of the discussions, as the comments here are arguably more pertinent than the short discussion at the other page. Your proposal would address that issue. (Thanks for the link, by the way.) --Ckatzchatspy 22:00, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't need editprotected for this. You need WP:RM or WP:AN. --MZMcBride 03:54, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Malplaced disambiguation page

message: I've been working on fixing pages that linked to the Heroes page to point them either here, or to the Heroes (TV series) article (or to the appropriate other article), but boy, there's a lot of them! So I'm taking a little break. If anyone else wants to finish that before I get back, that'd be great. I also realize, after having fixed the first 50, that most articles that I changed to point here should actually point to hero. So if nobody else does it I need to remember to change those too. This post is as much a reminder to myself as anything. Dansiman (talk|Contribs) 22:08, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I restored the previous discussions on this page's title and moved it back to the base name. -- JHunterJ (talk) 22:38, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved from Heroes to Heroes (disambiguation) 

message: I've made an article for fan site Heroes Wiki in my userspace, which I have proposed moving to the mainspace. You can see it now at User:MiamiVolts/Heroes Wiki. Discussion on the move is at User talk:MiamiVolts/Heroes Wiki. Assuming the move goes through, I think Heroes Wiki would get added to the 'other uses' section of this page.--MiamiVolts (talk) 16:34, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heroes Wiki 

message: The usage of  is up for discussion, see Talk:"Heroes" -- 70.24.250.103 (talk) 01:01, 23 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: "Heroes"

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Complete List of all other Helix Appearances. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 July 13#Complete List of all other Helix Appearances until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Regards, SONIC678 00:33, 13 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Complete List of all other Helix Appearances" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Heros(tv show). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 15#Heros(tv show) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Gonnym (talk) 09:52, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Heros(tv show)" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Heroes(TV Series). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 15#Heroes(TV Series) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Gonnym (talk) 09:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Heroes(TV Series)" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :Heroes(TV series). The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 August 15#Heroes(TV series) until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  Gonnym (talk) 09:59, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Heroes(TV series)" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]