Talk:The Office (British TV series)

message: Should there be a section about the critical and commercial reception of the show? As it is, these things are not even mentioned.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.25.206.175 (talk) 04:17, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Reception

message: "Finchy" is a horrible character. I hate him. He and I would never get on in an office together since I would find his jokes offensive.
Nevertheless, he is successful with one woman - at the end of episode two (?) series two, during the credits, we suddenly see him in a carpark obviously having sexual relations with one of the Swindon ladies. His approach is, how shall I say it, "from behind". "My knees hurt" says the woman "Nearly finished love!" says Finch in response. Urrkk! creepy! --One Salient Oversight 03:43, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Chris Finch's success with women

message: To whoever wrote these...good job! Just the right touch of dry humour. Perhaps we can have photos for the main characters? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gargletheape (talk • contribs) 
:No, you're wrong, and probably stupid. Eixo 15:59, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your argument is incisive and compelling. I had not realized just how unspeakably awful character photographs are. I will sin no more. --Gargletheape 04:35, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Once again the power of rational argument wins the day. Just shows that Wikipedia works. Eixo 22:50, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The above was perhaps the greatest example of what I call "Wikipolitics," or the banal, terrible, and often hysterical 'intrigue' that happens behind the scenes. That was quite funny. The current state of the articles are fine some months later. 207.69.137.26 02:14, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters 

message: Fantastic article - just the right touch of humour. Well done to whoever wrote it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.138.19.86 (talk • contribs) 
:Again with the stupidity...Eixo 23:39, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You know, Eixo, instead of smugly attacking the intelligence of people who dare to disagree with you, you could try giving reasons for why you think the article needs improvement or suggestions on how you'd do things. At the very least, you could try and be civil to other users, since you're hardly likely to persuade people of your viewpoint the way you've been acting on this page.--Joseph Q Publique 01:42, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great article 

message: I've changed the link that mentions the nod given to the show by the TV series "Lost" as it was in lowercase and linked to a disambiguation page.  Also, does the quote need any kind of citation or is it ok to be taken "as is"? --Durzel 11:42, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Lost" nod to the show 

message: would it be worth saying in this article that the PBS station in my area airs the office? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.98.107.244 (talk • contribs) 
I think it should be nmoted that it airs on PBS because it airs on many PBS stations accross the country. 207.69.137.26 02:15, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: PBS

message: About the recent addition of Das Büro: is it indeed an adaptation, direct or not, of The Office? I can't find such indication on the net or in IMDb. It struck me as doubtful that Stromberg, the unofficial version, would have been attempted while a direct adaptation was running (note: Das Büro began in 2003 and Stromberg in 2004). Can we have more information on Das Büro? --Liberlogos 02:41, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Das Büro 

message: Should it not be The Office (BBC TV series} rather than UK TV series as per naming conventions? 81.145.242.40 20:55, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Depends on which set of rules we are applying today. The ones for British sources or the rest of the world. ~ Clay  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.203.42.50 (talk) 13:53, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name 

message: This may seem like an odd question but does anyone know what Gareth's ringtone is? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ehmjay (talk • contribs) 20:07, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gareth's ringtone 

message: Generally very nice summaries of the characters, but you when you say "While Trudy brushes off Gareth's advances in a suprisingly polite way", you are not seeing her intention. The politeness is superficial, Trudy is actually setting Gareth up for a sexual harassment case. The email would provide evidence. I'll change the summary now. 81.152.106.233 13:31, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trudy 

message: The reference to Office Space is unnecessary.  Contrary to the article, I can see no connection between the show and the film, and given Office Space's unpopularity in the UK, Gervais and Merchant are unlikely to have seen it (the only reason I have is because I have numerous American friends).  That both involve people in "unsatisfying jobs" is tenuous.  Could we list Dilbert as inspiration as well?--Zoso Jade 15:57, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree the reference is not needed. However, you are fooling yourself. The two are related - it is a fact confirmed by Gervais himself. Office Space was unpopular everywhere and I would assume that is why Gervais and Merchant have been able to basically steal the idea. That is my opinion on the matter without any supporting information unlike the fact listed about Gervais. Movies ideas are often taken in this way. Many many examples could be listed and to defend the film simply because its British is just wrong. Dilbert was listed as inspiration for the movie "Office Space" so yes, despite your attempt at sarcasim it could be listed. ~Clay
Yep, also "Pete Gibbons" was referenced in the first episode.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.44.197.132 (talk) 14:57, 2 July 2009 (UTC)

text: I've removed that paragraph per the reasonings on this page. Regardless of whether it shares themes or not, the only citation given is to a DVD review, which not an appropriate authority. Gervais and Merchant stated the names of the series and films they "stole" ideas from (Simpsons, Larry Sanders, etc) in the Comedy Connections episode. Brad (talk) 14:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  As of 2008, Gervais has openly admited to creating the series after viewing the movie "Office Space" so if its relevant to include it here or not is open to discussion, if Gervais got the idea from the movie is not. Also, since "Office Space" released in 1999 and "The Office" released around 2000 its not really a stretch of the imagination that the two are related. I personally don't really see any point in citing the source of the idea. Also, consider that anything relating to Britian is supported with very anti-American perspective so adding anything that might even suggest it has any American roots would simply lead to great debate and would eventually led to a pro-British moderator removing. Best left out ~~ Clay  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.203.42.50 (talk) 13:43, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Office Space reference

message: I fully agree with, Zoso Jade, above. The reference to "Office Space" insinuates that Gervais borrowed characters and themes from that small, independent US film. Note the author's skeptical tone in "although Gervais and Merchant claim they had not seen the film." The "banal and dissatisfying nature of office jobs" has been the subject of literature, film, and television for over a century. (Melville wrote Bartleby the Scrivener in 1853.) There is no evidence to suggest that "The Office" is derivative of the Mike Judge film. The author should limit the article to the facts and remove this unfounded speculation. 66.26.79.152 14:38, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed that paragraph per the reasonings on this page. Regardless of whether it shares themes or not, the only citation given is to a DVD review, which not an appropriate authority. Gervais and Merchant stated the names of the series and films they "stole" ideas from (Simpsons, Larry Sanders, etc) in the Comedy Connections episode. Brad (talk) 14:31, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  As of 2008, Gervais has openly admited to creating the series after viewing the movie "Office Space" so if its relevant to include it here or not is open to discussion, if Gervais got the idea from the movie is not. Also, since "Office Space" released in 1999 and "The Office" released around 2000 its not really a stretch of the imagination that the two are related. I personally don't really see any point in citing the source of the idea. Also, consider that anything relating to Britian is supported with very anti-American perspective so adding anything that might even suggest it has any American roots would simply lead to great debate and would eventually led to a pro-British moderator removing. Best left out ~~ Clay  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.203.42.50 (talk) 13:43, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Office Space" not relevant 

message: In the final remark in the trivia section it says "As Gervais usually plays parts with this persona, an argument could be made that all Gervais characters are Brent at different points in his life, or perhaps one of his relatives".
This is clearly false. Andy Millman in Extras is clearly a different character, and Gervais' appearance in 'Night at the Museum' is also very different to David Brent. I'll remove this sentence in a few days unless somebody provides a decent argument for why it should stay. Tonksville 00:44, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gervais' persona 

message: All the existing individual episode pages for The Office fail notability guidelines, including the notability guidelines for television episodes, and have been tagged accordingly.  Might I suggest these articles are improved with real-world information (ie. referencing with reliable sources) to assert notability, removing trivia (seeWP:TRIVIA) quotes, overly long plot summaries (a breach of copyright) or consider merging the information onto the list of episodes page.  Otherwise, when these pages come up for review in fourteen days, they may be redirected, merged or deleted. If you want any help or info, then come to Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Television/Episode coverage.   Thanks, Gwinva 20:18, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Episode notability

message: Can someone more familiar with the show please add pictures of the individual characters to the individual character pages? With the only picture being the group one, it is difficult to put a face with the name. Thanks Vdrj2 07:54, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: Over the past months, TV episodes have been redirected by (to name a couple) TTN, Eusebeus and others. No centralized discussion has taken place, so I'm asking everyone who has been involved in this issue to voice their opinions here in this centralized spot, be they pro or anti. Discussion is here . Even if you have not, other opinions are needed because this issue is affecting all TV episodes in Wikipedia. --Maniwar (talk) 03:56, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Centralized TV episode discussion 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:The Office which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RFC bot 19:00, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion in process

message: In the description of Tim Canterbury, the following line appears: "... he also fails to pursue his relationship with Dawn to a success". I'm not familiar with this show and perhaps I'm not getting it because I'm so tired but, what does this line mean? The phrasing seems ambiguous but, like I said it might just be me. Apologies in advance if I'm wrong about this being ambiguous. 24.189.3.151 (talk) 05:09, 8 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does this mean? 

message: In a couple places, the article mentions the 12 episodes and 2 specials (the Christmas ones). Until recently, the infobox read "3 specials", now it's 2. The List of The Office (UK TV series) episodes article also mentions "The Office Revisited (2013)". Is this last one not included as a special episode for some reason? Too much time after the initial series? A slightly different name? If I recall correctly, "Revisited" had all the same characters, and they lived in the same fictional universe. Willondon (talk) 21:20, 30 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Brent was the only character from the original series I'm pretty sure. More of a catch up with his character and not so much the Office. "The Office Revisited" was just a title for a one off sketch rather than being part of the canon. 86.190.103.36 (talk) 19:35, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. What I'm remembering (poorly) was set a year and some later. Gareth was the manager, Dawn and Lee had moved to Florida (was it?), Brent was back for a visit. Sort of a "Where are they now?" hour-long episode. Maybe that's one of the Xmas specials I'm remembering. It's been a while. Thanks. Willondon (talk) 20:18, 2 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Office Revisited (2013)