Talk:Chlorine dioxide

message: Can who watches this page make sure that the following links don't re-appear?
http://bioredox.mysite.com/CLOXhtml/CLOXprnt.htm
http://miraclemineral.org/
They were there, they're links to quack miracle cure applications involving chlorine dioxide. 152.91.9.115 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment was added at 00:54, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  alternative medicine links 

message: At the time I'm looking at the page it says that Chlorine dioxide is endothermic
but that it also spontaneously explodes when concentrated above 15%. This would
indicate that it is an exothermic compound if I understand it correctly. Since
I'm not a regular contributor I will leave it up to some of the rest of you to 
check this out and make changes if you see fit.
--84.190.182.194 (talk) 11:25, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Endothermic or Exothermic 

message: I am not sure about this statement under 'Preparation'.
Chlorine dioxide can be produced by reducing sodium chlorate in a strong acid solution with a suitable reducing agent (for example, hydrogen peroxide, sulfur dioxide, or hydrochloric acid):
I do not recall Hydrogen Peroxide to be a reducing agent, but an oxidizer.
: It can be either, depending on the reaction:
:* Hydrogen peroxide#Chemical properties
:* Two methods for the determination of hydrogen peroxide
: —Ryanrs 11:06, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's actually used as a reducing agent in water treatment to remove residual hypochlorous acid. dil 17:48, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reducing agent? 

message: What pH is considered a strong acid solution?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by  66.1.178.191 (talk • contribs) 
:Depends on your solvent and context.  But generally, in water one would regard a pH < 1 to be strongly acidic.  --Dirk Beetstra T C 17:43, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe it's meant as a solution of a strong acid i.e. one that ionizes completely in solution? dil 17:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Question

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* http://www.epa.gov/iris/toxreviews/0496-tr.pdf Toxicoloxy of Chlorine dioxide
--Stone 20:40, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article needs proper citation of the references given.  Hard to discern where many of these claims stem from.  Would be good for the authors to do so.  Halogenated (talk) 00:37, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: The last time I checked, 4 degrees Celsius was not "boiling":
Its solubility increases at higher temperatures: it is thus common to use boiling water (5 °C or 41 °F) 
Joseph N Hall 10:15, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More soluble at higher temperatures? 

message: The second equation in the Preparation section does not balance.  Should it be:
HClO3 + HClO2 → 2ClO2 + H2O
--Phthspok (talk) 21:23, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Equation not balanced?

message: Could you tell me how can ClO2 exist? I knew that chlorine has valencies of 1, 3, 5, and 7, and in this compound it's got 4. How is it possible? Please answer, but in easy English. Macer - my talk: http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyskusja_wikipedysty:Macer
83.28.153.210 (talk) 20:39, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The most common oxidation states in stable compounds of chlorine are 1, 3, 5, and 7, but there are in fact compounds in oxidation states 2, 4, and 6 as well. ClO2 is an example of Cl(IV); it does not fulfill the octet rule on the chlorine atom but is a radical, same as NO and NO2. --Itub (talk) 08:59, 17 October 2008 (UTC)

text: The article already discusses in some detail the issues with drawing the structure and provides several references about it. The diagram in the infobox may be questionable but is a common, conventional, shorthand. --Itub (talk) 02:00, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  A question 

message: Please take a look at Stabilized Chlorine Dioxide. Dylan Flaherty (talk) 04:45, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fork with a grudge? 

message: It is too bad that some companies try to do business and spoil the spirit of Wikipedia. It is too obvious that the author of this article while pretending to give objective and scientific information to pretend to educate people about chlorine dioxide has the opposite goal in mind.
Half truth, omissions, approximation,... all this to drag a few leads to www.feedwater.co.uk . This is a shame.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waterreview (talk • contribs) 11:25, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "MMS has been marketed as a treatment for a variety of conditions, including HIV, cancer, autism, and acne." I wonder if these are approved, or illegal, or somewhere between? It would be interesting to have a source on this. 178.38.100.126 (talk) 22:55, 17 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Twisted information and Disguised marketing advertisment for www.feedwater.co.uk - Shame on them ! 

message: The oral rinse CloSYS contains chlorine dioxide as an anti-bacterial agent. The ingredients are printed on this product, and the product is widely available. There is research on the use of chlorine dioxide to control dental bacteria, but that seems quite separate from the mere fact of a product existing that uses chlorine dioxide for the purpose of controlling oral bacteria. I think this use of chlorine dioxide merits inclusion on the chlorine dioxide page.
Verazzano (talk) 04:54, 24 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing belongs anywhere without a source - specifically third-party sourcing, compliant with WP:MEDRS if the article is going to make assertions about a product being used as an "anti-bacterial agent". And you need to bear in mind that this is an international project - what is or isn't 'widely available' in the United States is of very little relevance to a great many amongst of our readership. AndyTheGrump (talk) 05:23, 24 May 2015 (UTC)

text: I see your point but nevertheless I would have to suggest that the article shouldn't include material on a named commercial product without third-party sourcing actually discussing the product in question, if only to demonstrate that is is seen as significant. AndyTheGrump (talk) 03:54, 25 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: As an Anti-Bacterial Oral Rinse

message: The use of chlorine dioxide in water treatment leads to the formation of the by-product chlorite, which is currently limited to a maximum of 1 ppm in drinking water in the USA.[14]:4–33 This EPA standard limits the use of chlorine dioxide in the USA to relatively high-quality water[why?],
If the water is low quality, more chlorine dioxide must be used, which results in a higher concentration of chlorite. Right? Scythe33 (talk) 04:54, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: why? (section "water chlorination")

message: The source is not a doctor and the claim that bowel lining is what is being expelled is entirely her own conjecture. 
"However, autism campaigner Emma Dalmayne who infiltrated the group, says the images actually show children’s bowel lining that has been burned away by the bleach."
The source of the 6 year old boy is also simply a statement from her about an incident not related to the article.
I think it would be disingenuous to include obviously well intentioned (and social responsible) information just because it supports common sense if it comes from someone without any qualifications.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.72.211.241 (talk) 20:56, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the part that I think you are referring to. SmartSE (talk) 21:26, 29 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor sources for the Pseudomedicine section 

message: I tried to edit this page, removing an invalid and fallacious sentence, with an explanation and reason, and someone kept undoing my change without any explanation or logical reasoning as to why they disagreed, other than to simply say, "I disagree", which is supposedly NOT a valid reason. (afaik)
The line in question is in the top section, "Children who have been given enemas of chlorine dioxide as a supposed cure for childhood autism have suffered life-threatening ailments. [5]"
I THOROUGHLY read the article reference, and there is NOTHING in there that makes that statement, claim, or even suggests it.
AFAIK, that means that the sentence is invalid and fallacious and SHOULD be removed. (I am also very well-versed in the CD "controversy" and information about CD, and I KNOW that this comment is invalid and fallacious and is NOT backed up by any data or information ANYWHERE, although I see it claimed "Everywhere" -- it has become a fake viral meme in its own right)
This is the reference sited: "Parents are poisoning their children with bleach to 'cure' autism. These moms are trying to stop it". NBC News. Retrieved 2019-05-21.
The link is: https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/moms-go-undercover-fight-fake-autism-cures-private-facebook-groups-n1007871
I challenge anyone to find ANY information on that page and in that article that even minimally reasonably backs up the sentence I was trying to remove. It is NOT there. This sentence and its claim is made up of whole cloth.
I was given this notice on my Talk page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:WillBo#Edit-warring_on_Chlorine_dioxide
I hope the other people got "dinged" as well. At least I made the change WITH a valid explanation and reason, and THEY are the ones who kept UNDOING my change without any valid explanation or reason at all. The person who posted that notice on my Talk page is Snooganssnoogans, one of the people reversing my edit. The other person is Sumanuil.
I am not a "Professional Wikipedia Editor", I just make occasional changes and edits where and when I see them.
So I don't know what to do now.
WillBo (talk) 08:39, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Edit War" regarding a claim in the top section. 

message: A discussion is taking place to address the redirect :CLO2. The discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2021 November 4#CLO2 until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  ~~~~User:1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 16:58, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
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