Category talk:Pistol and rifle cartridges

message: I'm fixing the sort order for some that didn't have it specified and thus were listen under "."
I have just spent an evening cleaning up the sort order. For cartridges which start with "." I have added a DEFAULTSORT tag containing the cartridge name without the ".". For most metric cartridges I have deleted the DEFAULTSORT tag, although I left some in to make x=×. For most cartridges I have deleted any category-specific sort keys. Cartridges now sort the same way on the Category list and also the ammo-stub list. I have made a few errors, and have only modified entries which were in the wrong order, so there is still plenty of work to do on this! StraightAsADie (talk) 14:15, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Sort order

message: I was thinking that this category should be split into :Category:Pistol cartridges and :Category:Rifle cartridges? Pistol cartridges are used in pistols, revolvers, submachine guns and some carbines while rifle cartridges are used in rifles, assault rifles and machine guns. A split would also reduce clutter. --Philip Laurence (talk) 23:07, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I feel it would be unwise to attempt that distinction.  There have been a number of United States cartridges intentionally designed for both revolvers and level action rifles to simplify ammunition requirements.  The early family included the .32-20, .38-40, and .44-40, and this has subsequently been expanded to include .357 Magnum and the .45 Long Colt.  The .44 Magnum has been adapted to both revolvers and self-loading rifles, and virtually every type of rifle and handgun action has been adapted to fire the .22 Long Rifle.Thewellman (talk) 02:23, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split? 

message: I don't know if the sub-category display is broken, or if we're doing something wrong. This category seems to show only 1 sub-category in it's list, but it seems to display the number 8 saying that there are others? (Or did that mean there are 8 in the 1 showing sub-category?)
Also it doesn't seem to be showing sub-categories like :Category:Magnum pistol cartridges which I would have thought it should. Category experts? AliveFreeHappy (talk) 20:40, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sub-category display 

message: If all the cartridges which are in a subcategory were removed from Pistol and rifle cartridges category, as Wikipedia:Categorization#Subcategorization recommends... then this page is going to show no Remington cartridges, no Winchester, no Weatherby, no Magnums, no military cartridges. It is going to be a list of oddball and wildcat cartridges only.
I know that as a person interested in cartridges myself, I would find a complete list with optional special-interest sub-categories more useful than a fully diffused hierarchy.
I vote to nominate the subcategories as "non-diffusing" and add all cartridges into this main category. 
If I don't hear any dissenting views, I will start this work next week.
StraightAsADie (talk) 14:09, 2 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-diffusing subcategories 

message: There seems to be a trend to move away from "pistol" to "handgun" in names of lists, tables and categories. I propose that this category is renamed "Handgun and rifle cartridges". StraightAsADie (talk) 05:19, 3 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category title - Pistol or Handgun