Talk:Flag of Tennessee

message: Another legend about the three stars, also erroneous, is that they represented the three U.S. Presidents from Tennessee.  This is incorrect but somewhat understandable in that the flag wasn't adopted until well after each of the three had served.  Rlquall 14:14, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Legend

message: Did the proposed salute ever pass the House?  If not, its place in the article, at least to the level of prominence that it currently holds, is questionable/marginal IMO.  Rlquall 14:17, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Salute 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I think this link is a good "reliable source" but not sure if it is better than the one already in use or if it adds any valuable information for use in the article. https://sos.tn.gov/sites/default/files/Pgs.%20599-627%20TN%20Symbols.pdf 174.127.50.157 (talk) 12:09, 18 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this source good for the article ? 

message: Recently, mention of the flag's confederate symbolism was removed from the MOS:LEAD. It appears to be one of the most notable aspects of the flag and I do not see a good reason to exclude it from the most read part of the article. The confederate symbolism in the Flag of Mississippi was a subject of enormous controversy and widely covered by local and international media.https://abcnews.go.com/News/mississippi-flag-welcomed-step-reconciling-states-confederate-past/story?id=74262535https://indianexpress.com/article/explained/explained-why-the-us-state-of-mississippi-got-a-new-flag-6946928/https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/mississippi-voters-decide-replace-confederate-themed-state-flag-n1246244https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/01/us/mississippi-state-flag-confederacy-flag-trnd/index.html There has been extensive coverage from media outlets on confederate symbolism in US State flags.https://extras.denverpost.com/flags/https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2015/06/21/how-the-confederacy-lives-on-in-the-flags-of-seven-southern-states/https://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/confederate-flag-furor/flags-some-southern-states-still-include-confederate-symbols-n380161
Wikipedia articles Flag of Georgia (U.S. state) and every article on List of U.S. Army installations named for Confederate soldiers note the confederate symbolism in the lead as well.
I propose that this section be re-added to the MOS:LEAD:
"Vexillologist Steven A Knowlton noted that "the Tennessee flag has pragmatic unity with the Confederate flag: both share the element of white stars inside a fimbriated blue charge, and the element of that blue charge on a red field." He also notes the resemblance between the Tennessee State Flag and the third national flag of the confederacy."
Desertambition (talk) 10:14, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: It's still in the article. To my knowledge, this connection is something that has only recently been commented on by observers. I could well be wrong, and there may be published history of such comments going back to the flag's origins. At this point, though, I don't see that it belongs in the lead. The Confederate connection is somewhat dubious, and the quote in the article only mentions a "pragmatic unity", and the resemblance to the Confederacy' third national flag in extremely thin. (We might as well site the US flag's "pragmatic unity" with the Confederate flag because both use the colors red, white, and blue, and have white stars!) BilCat (talk) 12:00, 10 February 2022 (UTC)

text: I updated the citation the journal for Knowlton's observations. I also would ask how Knowlton's paper is "one of the most notable aspects" of the flag? How are you coming up with that? Fort Benning is named after a Confederate General. There's no symbolism there, it's a fact. The Flag of Georgia is a near replica of the stars and bars. There's no debate about the origin of the flag. Observations and speculation are worth mentioning in the article if they're properly sourced, but there would need to be more substantial to add it in the MOS:LEAD. Nemov (talk) 17:15, 10 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confederate Symbolism in the Lead 

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