Template talk:Police forces of the United Kingdom

message: This is a large, dominating template; it might be notable how Australian university templates can be hidden and expanded when required, see University of Western Australia for instance and the bottom of the article has three templates that hide and expand. Djegan 18:59, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. This template has expanded too much! It needs to be limited to the main territorial forces for each region. MRSC 14:45, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Size

message: There appears to be a fight over jurisdictions with this infobox. To separate out Scottish forces into separate areas is pointless. There are only eight of them and Scotland is a single legal jurisdiction. England and Wales are a single jurisdiction. Wales is not a separate legal jurisdiction from England. Constables are sworn with jurisdiction in England and Wales as an area. The forces of England and Wales are too numerous to be listed as a single wodge and so breaking them down by region makes sense. Legally Wales is a region of England and Wales. David Newton 22:11, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. In addition the regional splits used are bogus - Lothian & Borders area might well cover the borders area, but it also covers a big area of the Central Belt. /wangi 12:45, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jurisdictions 

message: I'm surprised (or perhaps not, since it's obviously not important enough) that no one has objected to the layout of the  template. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.31.40.145 (talk • contribs) 2006-07-25 09:55:42 (UTC)
:See Template talk:UK Police1#Reformat. Thanks/wangi 09:18, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: {{tl|UK Police1}}

message: This template shows the main territorial forces for the UK. It does this rather well. There is a lot of further information it could show, however there needs to be discussion here about what that should be. I am of the opinion that adding anything further needlessly clutters the template and creates redundancy with Policing in the United Kingdom or List of police forces in the United Kingdom, which is a far more suitable forum to elaborate on details of current police operations. MRSC 12:21, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Further detail

message: Somewhere, maybe not here, we should include Border and Immigration Agency, Health and Safety Executive, Her Majesty's Revenue and Customs and Serious Fraud Office (UK). ninety:one 11:18, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other agencies 

message: I'm thinking that agencies such as the Central Motorway Police Group should have their own group in the table (named something like "Regional units" of "Joint agencies", rather than being in the footer bar of the table.  If no-one objects I'll implement this change in a few days. --RFBailey (talk) 20:47, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No-one said anything, so I went ahead.  --RFBailey (talk) 19:16, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Seems a bit odd only two forces get listed when there are about a dozen on Road Policing Unit. Shouldn't all be listed (perhaps via a single link) or none for consistency? Deku-shrub (talk) 09:56, 5 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Multi-force agencies 

message: This template has become unwieldy and actually inaccurate.  The title of the template is Police Forces of the United Kingdom.  This really should be limited to the 43 territorial forces of England & Wales, Police Scotland and the PSNI.  Plus special police forces such as BTP, CNC and MOD police.  Also, probably the NCA should be included, though legally this is not a police force.  The rest of the various units and regional squads listed are not police forces and the template is therefore misleading.  I will start altering it unless there is any objections? Dibble999 (talk) 20:49, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unwieldy template 

message: This navbox template is quite large and does not just cover the Police forces of the United Kingdom like its title implies. Therefore I suggest that the templates Be reduced to just the Territorial police forces & Special police forces. Where the Regional counter terrorism & Regional organised crime (coordinated by NCA) & Regional motorway policing be put into a new navbox labeld "United Kingdom regional policing units" and the National section be placed into its own navbox labeld "United Kingdom Policing Agencies", excluding the Special police forces. This would make the navboxes apply to their specific articles and would allow for easier understanding of the navbox and would reduce confusion between agencies which are not police forces. Terasail[Talk] 19:30, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the box has got too massive and covers all sorts of units which of themselves are certainly not police forces.  In legal terms you have the 43 territorial police forces of England & Wales, Police Scotlant and the PSNI for territorial police forces.  Special police forces then add another 3, BTP, MOD Police and Civil Nuclear Constabulary. Although technically not a police force I think the NCA should be part of this box as they are a specialist law enforcement agency with powers of arrest working alongside all of the above.  All the other regional and specialist units are not police forces but are staffed by officers either on attachement or secondment from their home force.  The ROCUs, regional counter terrorist units and motorway units along with wildlife etc etc should not be part of this box.  The only other to mention is the very small ports contabularies.  They perhaps should be part of a new force box. Bowchaser (talk) 14:37, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with the principle. By way of background, there is also Template:UK home nations law enforcement agencies (non-police) covering national non-police agencies, and Template:UK private and military police forces includes the port ones already - best to keep those there I think. I think the territorial police forces, special police forces and the NCA should stay here, and all the national & regional units should go into a separate navbox - I think that is what  has said above as well. ninety:one   18:26, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split proposal 

message: Comment it would be useful to have the Isle of Man and Channel Island police forces in the template. C. 22468  Talk to me 16:41, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Since this navbox template is for UK home nations police forces and neither  the Isle of Man or Channel Islands are not part of the UK it does not seem appropriate to add these to this navbox. Terasail[Talk] 19:51, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The reasons I suggested it was because for the Fire Brigade and the Ambulance service templates they include the Crown Dependencies. C. 22468  Talk to me 18:29, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add Isle of Man and Channel Islands