Talk:Vooruit (political party)

message: I don't understand why a dash is entered between "Progressives" and "Different" in the name. The official Dutch name is without a dash (and without capitalization) : "Daarom zal ook de invulling van de naam sp.a veranderen: in plaats van 'socialistische partij anders', met de baseline 'sociaal progressief alternatief', staat sp.a voortaan voor 'socialisten en progressieven anders', en verdwijnt de baseline." (Een zekere en eerlijke toekomst voor Vlaanderen (retrieved 14 Jan 2009, likely to be changed within a couple of days).) --Luxem (talk) 21:46, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dash 

message: "Socialist Party Different" isn't a great translation.  As an isolated, literal translation of the word "anders", "different" would be fine, but in this context it fails to preserve that the name is meaningful.  I mean, the name makes some sense in Dutch.  In English, it's nonsense.  And English speaker will wonder why they have a nonsense name, when in fact they don't.
Think of "anders gezegd".  That'd usually be better translated as "in other words", or "said differently", or "put differently", but not really "said different".
"Socialist Party - Differently" is the best I can think of.  Any better alternatives? Gronky (talk) 17:30, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely – "Socialist Party Different" is unacceptable. (This is one area where UE goes overboard, in my opinion. Using the Dutch name would be smarter.) But as we must come up with a translation, "Socialist Party Differently" is best. Or else "Socialist Party – Differently" with a dash. Q·L·1968 ☿ 22:40, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: From their website (): "The exact meaning of the ‘a’ is difficult to translate but it could be compared to the renaming of the Labour Party into New Labour.". Oreo Priest talk 15:43, 30 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  better translation of "anders" 

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message: I was reported yesterday that the party's name would change from sp.a to Vooruit. Once its online presence changes, we should move the article. —Brigade Piron (talk) 10:14, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: That will happen in December. 1 MatryoshkaNL (talk) 21:11, 10 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name change 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover)  ASUKITE 16:48, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Forward (Belgium) →  – This move raises two separate issues:
# Vooruit. I can find no serious usage of "Forward" in English in this context. WP:RSUE therefore tells us that "If there are too few reliable English-language sources to constitute an established usage, follow the conventions of the language appropriate to the subject (German for German politicians, Portuguese for Brazilian towns, and so on)."
# (political party). Vooruit (and therefore "Forward") has been used in a number of notable historical contexts in Belgium and this was explicitly something that the political party considered in its own rebranding. Vooruit, the cultural centre, has similar status and we can discuss which (or either) is the primary usage. Either way, "(Belgium)" is too ambiguous. —Brigade Piron (talk) 15:49, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

text: , who recently expressed views on this subject above. —Brigade Piron (talk) 15:52, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

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thread_title:  Requested move 19 August 2021