Talk:Bristol, Rhode Island

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message: Hi - 
I am doing some geneology research and am looking for a modern picture of this rock:
http://www.mysacramento.me/images/gladdingrock.gif
I can't find anything online - this image was grabbed out of an old book about the Gladding family (apparently lots of gladdings buried in Bristol). Does anyone know the context of this rock and if it still exists in Bristol?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 134.134.139.71 (talk) 05:00, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
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message: I would think that was iffy in an article about the parade: in an article about the town, it has no place that I can see. Removed again because it gives undue weight to the event. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:35, 28 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It is properly sourced and was discussed in international news broadcasts. I can understand wanting to condense the discussion of the controversy, but removing it altogether isn't in keeping with Wikipedia policy. I am trying to assume good faith, but I always have a bit of trouble with "moving goalpost" discussions (first, the problem is insufficient sources; once more reliable sources are provided, a claim of undue weight is made). If this is just a case of I just don't like it, please remember that your edit resembles censorship. I'll assume good faith and trust that we can work something out in a discussion, though. GaryColemanFan (talk) 01:26, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not "moving the goalposts", it's "not thinking it all the way through when there's something more obviously wrong". If you want to write an article about the parade and include this here, that would make some sense -- it would still be undue weight to a degree, but arguable. However, for an article about the Town of Bristol, it's about as irrelevant as it gets. --SarekOfVulcan (talk) 14:16, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parade Tea Party "controversy" 

message: Is including a paragraph about an incident that happened at the 2009 Bristol Independence Day parade appropriate, or is it undue weight?--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 04:16, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: When the complaint was about insufficient references, I added more. When it was about the letter to the editor, I removed it. When it was about a reference to the Glenn Beck program, I removed it. When it was about giving too much space to the controversy, I shortened it. I am willing to shorten it a little more, however: "In 2009, a Tea Party group was briefly banned from participating in future events when they were suspected of handing out copies of the Declaration of Independence, Constitution, and Bill of Rights during the parade." Is one sentence (with reliable sources) on an internationally televised controversy still undue weight? GaryColemanFan (talk) 04:52, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: 
Response to third opinion request:
The version most recently inserted by GaryColemanFan does appear to give undue weight to the incident. I suggest cutting it down to something along the lines of 'After the 2009 parade, a tea party group was temporarily banned from taking part in future parades'.— --Andrensath (talk | contribs) 05:04, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

text: *That just makes it look lame. If you want context, how about "In 2009, a Tea Party group was briefly banned from future participation when they were accused of handing out literature from the float in violation of parade rules." It's still undue weight to include a single incident from a 200-year-old parade in the article for the town where the parade happens, but at least with this version you know why it happened.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:31, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *That's a possibility. What about my version was lame, though? GaryColemanFan (talk) 17:41, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *It wasn't that your version was lame, it was that it made the decision look lame (as in, completely indefensible). Having the reason that handing out the Declaration got them briefly banned makes it look less lame (and I have walked next to political floats on the 4th handing out the Constitution/Declaration myself, fwiw).--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 17:56, 12 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *We seem to be getting somewhere, but the controversy seems like a non-issue that way. The reason that it was featured on the news in my country was that it was allegedly handing out the Declaration of Independence that got them banned. If it had simply been a flyer for a mattress sale, it might have made the news in Bristol, but I certainly wouldn't have heard anything about it. I think "In 2009, a Tea Party group was briefly banned from future participation when they were suspected violating parade rules by handing out copies of the Declaration of Independence and other historical documents during the parade." is closer to a compromise, but I can't think of wording that would make it clear that the rule relates to all literature and not specifically historical documents. GaryColemanFan (talk) 05:23, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

text: I could live with that wording, but I won't add it myself, since I still think it's undue weight -- especially given the temporary nature of the ban. If there were an article about the parade itself, it might be noteworthy enough to mention, but I can't see how it's appropriate in the town article.--SarekOfVulcan (talk) 12:53, 14 June 2010 (UTC)
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