Talk:Angela Petrelli

message: someone added a section called special training.  i dont think that is varifiable and needs to be deleted.  someone said she knew parkman was in her head based on some training that he and bennet received from the company.  but i beleive that she knew parkman was in her head because he repeated her thoughts saying that they had done something terrible and were getting revenge.  angela has been around heroes all her life.  she probably already know about parkman since the company abducted him in the past first season and has a record of him and his powers on the primatech website at heroes 360.  and since angela is connected with the company, i feel that section of special training is not encyclopeic enough for this section. --76.168.220.243 05:17, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  She knew, through exposure, what was happening and was simply putting up a thought barrier, a la Children of the Corn.  No special training, no communicating with telepaths.  Padillah 05:38, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  special training 

message: Do we need to get this page protected too?  I've already had Peter Petrelli placed under protection due to the enormous amount of fancruft and speculation, I can get this page placed under protection too if needs be.  Padillah 18:29, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thumbs up! Please do it. At least for 2 episodes. -- Magioladitis 19:54, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeing as you are one step away from an 3RR I submitted the request.  Let's see how long it takes.  Padillah 20:06, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protection for this page as well? 

message: Should it be stated that the future where peter went to with the virus be called "Alternate". I don't know if it's been verified that that future will definitely not happen and is still just the future. Any thoughts?  Akuzio (talk) 08:14, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternate Future 

message: Can we assume that Angela Petrelli is talking to a man specifically? (Under the pargraph "Generations"- "She also comments that the man has just opened Pandora's Box.") It's possible that it was a woman. There's no evidence to back up that it was a man that she was talking to. I know its small, but maybe its should be something to be looked into, Combee loves me (talk) 06:36, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it's true, she could be talking to a woman, but given the fact that we simply don't know, it's both safer and correct to default to the masculine.  Grey Maiden 
talk 06:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Powerless

message: I think that Angela power is noteable. Look they said that Peter has used her power once. So i think that he has this Precognitive dreams all the time but but we never found out from who he get them so i supose that he got them from Angela. I have only watched season 1 so sorry if i am wrong. --77.29.76.21 (talk) 14:09, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And you are more than welcome to assume that. The problem we run into here is one of making sure it's true. Not just thinking it's true. Not even proving it's true given the facts at hand. But we have to have someone else say it first. That's what it means to have a primary source. The long and short is, because anybody can come to WP and type whatever they want, we have limited ourselves to only gathering information, not creating it. You may be right, and there is a HeroesWiki where you can post that and others will debate the question with you. But here on the main site we have to watch our P's a Q's.  Thanks for the effort though. padillaH (review me)(help me) 17:10, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right. So could you give me site to that wiki site so i could talk with them about this stuff. Thanks that you explain to me. So if people there decide that thats Angela power you will let me to write that here. Thanks a lot.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.29.73.23 (talk) 16:00, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What they decide at HeroesWiki.com does NOT influence what is written here. ~QuasiAbstract {talk/contrib} 14:14, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

text: No, I think you have misunderstood. You are more than welcome to participate in Heroeswiki ( which is the URL too, [www.heroeswiki.com]). They allow more speculation and fan-centric information. Here we are interested in a complete and factual encyclopedia, not a fan site. Until it's on the show or in a newspaper, we wouldn't allow anything here. You can check the Peter Petrelli page, we've actually taken down where Peter gets his powes because sometimes it's not perfectly clear... and if it's nbot perfectly clear Wikipedia can't publish it. padillaH (review me)(help me) 12:04, 7 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Angela power 

message: In deference to the fact that we are probably going to be told Angela's power in the first or second episode, I am going to attempt to head off the requisite "Power Name Argument". I feel it should be called Precognition, dreaming is simply the method she uses the results of the power are the same. Like Isaac's power, he is a precog but he paints his visions rather than dream them. There is no difference in the power, just the method of using the power. padillaH (review me)(help me) 15:10, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps naming it "Precognitive dreaming", and changing Isaac's to "Precognitive artistry" (his isn't limited to painting)? Ophois (talk) 18:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What are we going to call her power? 

message: The article reads "After Nathan is shot at his press conference, Angela has a telephone conversation wherein she states that there was no choice but to shoot Nathan." Did she? I seem to remember her saying "It was unavoidable" but that's it. We don't know what was unavoidable nor who she was talking to. Can someone with the DVD check this out for me? padillaH (review me)(help me) 12:39, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: She never mentions the shooting, but from what I understand she is supposed to be talking about the shooting. Originally I think it was supposed to be about the release of the virus, but was just reused to be about the shooting. Ophois (talk) 18:59, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did she say what she was talking about? 

message: Saying she is Sylar's mother in the first paragraph is a huge spoiler!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.211.242.204 (talk) 07:31, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: From WP:Spoiler - "It is not acceptable to delete information from an article because you think it spoils the plot." If someone doesn't want to get spoiled on an article, they shouldn't be coming to Wikipedia, of all places. ~Auzemandius {talk/contrib} 07:48, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

text: I've said it before, I'll say it again: If you look up information on a subject don't be surprised to find information on that subject. What did you think you'd find here? Recipes for soup? Padillah (talk) 12:23, 13 October 2008 (UTC)

text: Wow, I just re-read the lead and - you're right, it stinks. It should be a recap of the article, not a list of accomplishments. It needs work. But the OP was complaining about the "spoilers" in the first paragraph and, while the relation to Claire might move to the body, the relationship to her sons won't. It's been an argument for years on WP - whether to hide "spoilers" or not. And the result is the same, since what constitutes a spoiler is subjective we don't entertain them. WP is here to list information. Don't be surprised when you find said information. Padillah (talk) 13:01, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you to that. On the other hand, I still don't understand why some editors go immediately after the end of an episode and try to change the leading paragraph. For me it's very difficult to keep an eye to these articles anymore. I am afraid that some editor will come and add information (inaccurate in 9 of the 10 times) from a sneak preview, a spoilers blog or something like that. I started to hope that the reveal a power of this character and we stop reverting stupid additions and speculations. -- Magioladitis (talk) 13:10, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  SPoiler! 

message: As shown in more recent episodes (and verified in this Q&A), Angela's power is not just precognitive dreaming. She also appears to have some sort of postcognitive dreaming ability (as shown when Peter visits Charles) and some form of dream manipulation. Perhaps "Enhanced dreaming" or something like that would be more appropriate? Ophois (talk) 15:55, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since nobody has responded, I'm gonna go ahead and make the change then. Ophois (talk) 03:36, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Renaming power 

message: We now know Arthur isn't Sylar's father, but can we rule out Angela as his mother for certain?  Even though the older generation of heroes use lies and manipulation, there have usually been grains of truth in what they say.  It was even inferred that Angela had an affair with Kaito.  And I know this is fairly wild speculation, but immediately dismissing that she could be Sylar's mother is no different since there is no solid proof one way or the other.
--138.162.0.41 (talk) 15:22, 9 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: All we can go on is what they say.  We can't cross out Angela as his mother, just because Arthur wasn't his father.  Until he uses his power to determine the validity of what she said, we have to go on the last information we've gotten, which was her saying that she was his mother. ~Auzemandius {talk/contrib} 14:30, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship with Sylar 

message: I think it should be mentioned how she "fed" her to Sylar. It is, IMO, quite a revealing moment - we see what kind of monster she can be. I'd include it myself, but I don't think I could do so in an objective way.--Cyberman TM (talk) 22:01, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
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