Talk:Kwik Save

message: Can someone please merge the commented-out paragraph at the start of the branding section? I took it from the kwiksave article when I merged the two, but it seems slightly contradictory to what is already there, and I'd prefer someone more knowledgeable to sort it out. Thank you. Fourohfour 19:44, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Branding

message: Regarding this group of edits by Romone9. This is controversial stuff, and whilst there is nothing wrong with material of this nature appearing in the article, it isn't reassuring that that none of it is referenced.
Without references, it's hard to tell whether this is genuine encyclopedic material, or whether it is original research, whether there is axe-grinding going on, etc., etc. Nothing personal against Romone9; I don't know him/her; this is just one of those areas where the material has to be demonstrably neutral.
I've left it in for now, and tagged it, to give Romone9 (or someone else) the chance to add these citations. Thanks!
Fourohfour 16:58, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No citations whatsoever on critical material 

message: This article states two different dates for the Kwik Save-Somerfield merger. In the first paragraph:
:"Kwik Save became part of the Somerfield group in 1998 when Kwik Save and Somerfield merged."
But in the "Sale of stores" section:
:"After the takeover by Somerfield in 2005"
Could someone correct this? I don't know which is correct myself, but I suspect the first. Cheers, DWaterson 17:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was 1998. Reference added for that, and statement containing "2005" removed completely as being based around a demonstrably incorrect fact made the rest of this uncited statement dubious. If someone wishes to put it back, please rewrite and cite, thanks. Fourohfour 12:24, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradictory dates

message: It's funny how when I dare to question a citation tag inserted by DrFrench or Fourohfour, I am accused of vandalism and the rules of Wikipedia are cited most stringently. Yet when they choose to insert such citation tags, no such explanation is offered. When these tags are inserted into South Shields, Kwik Save or Somerfield, it is usually for facts or assertions so generic that no such information would be requested elsewhere on the site, yet for daring to challenge them and reverting these tags, you are treated as an unwelcome sore on the face of Wikipedia. Strangely, when you seek to take these issues beyond the initial reversion by said parties (and others, I must say) the threats of vandalism and banishment from Wikipedia are rarely carried through. 
Is this, I wonder, because they know in their heart of hearts that they are wrong and that the independent spirit of Wikipedia is being destroyed by those who would hide behind an elaborate members' page and pretend that they own the place. I say NO, I say that anyone should be able to asset their opinions on this site and that it should be as legitimate to state that a citation is not required as it is to state the opposite. You may well spend half your life on Wikipedia, that's up to you - I'm not that sad and quite frankly I don't care - but please don't patronise those who work to keep this community independent and beyond the control of those who seem to live for it, usually individuals so far removed from the real world that they don't have a clue what's actually going on.
Yes, I have vandalised the sites and amendments of those so anally retentive that they seek to destroy the independence and impartiality on which Wikpedia was founded, and I make no apology for that. What I should have learned to appreciate is that they are so collectively thick it will have no effect. Some things on this site must be taken on trust as no person, living or otherwise, has the capacity to reference every single point of every article on Wikipedia. When you start asking for references on the type of shelves that Kwik Save had in the 1990s, then you are quite frankly taking the piss. If someone has taken the time and effort to write about something so obscure, maybe you should think about their motives before demanding a citation! lawsonrob 22 June 2007, 01:02
: You've posted this in three places (Somerfield talk page, Kwik Save talk page and at your user talk page.) 
: Since it's hard (and pointless) to have the same discussion across three different pages- and since this is mainly an issue between users- I've posted my response on your talk page, and propose that we keep this discussion there. Fourohfour 12:01, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation tags

message: Nice to see references being added (and the unreferenced stuff that been tagged for ages being removed). Cheers! Fourohfour 16:22, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: I hadn't come across the term "baby shark" to describe this business model before and it intrigued me. Where does the term come from? Are there other examples of it? Is it worthy of an entry of its own? Conversely, if it's not widely used, does its use in this article really add value?Wwhyte 19:11, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The only link Google comes up with for baby shark retailing method is this WP article. Hmm. Time for a tag me thinks. - X201 19:24, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also, the reference is now a dead link. So the term really needs to be explained in this article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.239.177.76 (talk) 19:53, 10 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: "Baby shark"?

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with File:Franklinsnofrills.png

message: The article should explain when Kwik Save was at its peak. I should imagine that in its prime it was the market leader in the UK discount supermarket segment by a considerable margin, but I don't have any hard facts to back that up. Abberley2 (talk) 01:20, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Gap in the history: info on its success

message: Shouldn't the info about the new Kwik Save be on Costcutter's page and not here (this page should only have a disambig link to Costcutter's page)? It's no relation to the old company, other than having the same name. The original Kwik Save's history ends with the failure of FreshXpress. Digifiend (talk) 00:21, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revived brand 

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