Talk:Mount Sinai Beth Israel

message: Mount Sinai Beth Israel is going to be rebuilt as "Mount Sinai Downtown," should the name of this page be changed?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 146.203.130.213 (talk) 16:36, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Name Change/Restructuring

message: I thought the line saying Beth Israel possessed a unique combination of clinical innovation and medical excellence, with no footnote, sounded like the PR dept at work, so I changed it to a claim of that unique combination.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.255.35.39 (talk) 14:53, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Sounds like PR

message: The paragraph beginning  seems to imply that Jewish people can't be heroin addicts or vice versa. I'm just not sure why the heroin fact seems to be used as evidence of the broadening of the hospital's clientele from its Jewish roots. CDM (talk) 22:28, 27 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jewish Heroin Addicts? 

message: This subject has been discussed, and a consensus was reached that we don't do such lists.  See Talk:Ottendorfer Public Library and Stuyvesant Polyclinic Hospital#Notable deaths. BMK (talk) 23:36, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: *Well, you're wrong about that, but let's just look at this talk page then: one for, one again, no consensus.  Please do not restore without a consensus to do so. BMK (talk) 03:01, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do not delete without a consensus to do so. --Richard Arthur Norton (1958- ) (talk) 04:22, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, it doesn't work that way.  There is a standing consensus - which you are well aware of, and which is cited above - not to have lists of notable deaths on hospital pages.  My edit was in line with that consensus.  If you want to restore it, you must find a consensus here to do so.  Of course, you know all this. BMK (talk) 05:19, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists of notable deaths 

message: Should hospital articles include lists of notable people who have died there? BMK (talk) 05:28, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Note: I have posted a neutral pointer on the talk page of WikiProject Hospitals, and have listed this RfC on Centralized discussion. BMK (talk) 05:40, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

text: Note: I have notified all participants of the previous RfC, regardless of their opinion at that time, of the existence of this new RfC, with the exception of RAN, who has already commented here. BMK (talk) 05:53, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The standard isn't whether we conceive of some hypothetical reader being interested in this content. It's whether the content constitutes information consistent with an encyclopedic summary of the subject.  Further, the relative "popularity" of involved editors is never a relevant argument to deciding content issues on this project. We make these determinations on the basis of consistency with sources, the policy arguments forwarded, community consensus and a smidgin of editorial discretion.  I doubt the other editors responding here voted uniformly to oppose because they believed Richard Arthur Norton to be some kind of pariah.  I know I certainly have no idea what this unpopularity you speak of pertains to. Snow let's rap 09:43, 26 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC: Should hospital articles include lists of notable people who died there? 

message: Since there's a standing consensus against lists of notable deaths in hospital articles, and what seems to be a developing consensus against it as well in the new RfC, it does not seem proper for the list to be on the article's talk page either, since (1) the talk page is intended for discussions about how to improve the article, and (2) putting it on the talk page simply seems like a way to get around not being allowed to have it in the article itself.  For these reasons, I have removed the list of notable deaths from this page. BMK (talk) 16:29, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: * Actually, the RfC is about all hospital articles and whether death lists should be in them, so this particular list is not under discussion per se, but since you must have your way, another editor can decide whether it should be here or not. BMK (talk) 17:15, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: *It's pretty clearly not appropriate, for the same reason we do not allow people to host rejected content in their user pages as a means of preserving it on a project.  In fact, though I can't recall where, I think there is policy which explicitly mandates not replicating such content in discussion spaces either.  The RfC seems pretty much decided to me based on the responses so far, but I'm still personally hesitant to remove the content until it is formally closed. After that, it clearly needs to go. Snow let's rap 08:00, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

text: **It's generally appropriate for talk pages to contain any subject matter that was proposed for inclusion, even if it was later rejected.  WhatamIdoing (talk) 02:31, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: List of deaths on talk page?