Talk:Indian classical music

message: There also seems to be no mention of the Dhrupad style of singin which came prior to the khyal style the four styles in dhrupad viz the Baanis ' the Dagar , he Khandar The Guahar and the Nauhar baani
There are some serious errors, but I am adverse to editing them because I would not know how to concisely explain some of the concepts which deserve full pages unto themselves.
::There also seems to be useless information such as "..the audiences applaud.." This may or may not true, and is not related to the dogma of Indian classical music. Jor movements sometimes have tabla accompaniment, but nothing to that effect is noted.--Gautam3 05:05, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Both vocalists and instrumentalists are mentioned now. Faiyaz Khan, Abdul Karim Khan, Amir Khan, Bade Ghulam Ali Khan are all mentioned. Dhrupad and Khyal are both mentioned, along with semiclassical forms. More info about the forms is on their respective WP pages. So can this ("Gross Errors") section be considered resolved now? 24.1.31.69 (talk) 15:49, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Gross Errors

message: Is Indian classical music necessarily (or at all) connected to the discipline of Kundalini? I think the relation is not important enough for 1st paragraph mention. I hesitate to edit because I know little about Kundalini.--Elliotb2 14:44, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kundalini 

message: Since 'Carnatic Music ' site states that it is the music that started through-out India during Vedic period, it should be merged with 'Indian Classical Music'  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.55.122.99 (talk) 16:37, 1 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody knows what the "original" form of Indian classical music was. There are references to jatis, which are supposed to be the precursors of ragas. In any case, both the Hindustani and Carnatic styles have evolved separately since roughly the 13th century, and they are different enough to require separate pages. 24.1.31.69 (talk) 16:24, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger is Justified 

message: Ustad Ashraf Ali Khan ANd Ustad Muharam Ali Khan (taught by Ustad huzoor bux khan mirasi) was well known for indian classical rag khayal ghazal thumri and kafiz (sindhi classical music kafi)of sufi saints, belong with a city kambar at larkana located in sindh, PAKISTAN.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.154.47.132 (talk) 21:42, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay... then create WP pages for them. 24.1.31.69 (talk) 16:26, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sindhi classical artists of the pakistan  

message: Could be of interest: can stream or download for about four weeks. link Tony (talk) 10:40, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the link! Hekerui (talk) 10:43, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ABC radio doco on Zakir Hussain 

message: The lists of notable vocalists and instrumentalists are not great. Ideally, there should be a sentence or two for each musician, outlining his/her contributions. For example, BGAK's introduction of the tappa style into the thumri, or AK's innovative use of pause and merukhandi patterns. Everyone composes new bandishes, though, so that doesn't need to be mentioned. Anyway, something like that would show that ICM is evolving (within the boundaries of the tradition), not stagnating. 24.1.31.69 (talk) 18:14, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of notable musicians 

message: The article was recently moved to "Classical music of India". I moved it back because the wording "Indian classical music" is widespread and also used by scholars. The Grove Dictionary of Music and Musicians uses it when discussing the totality of the classical tradition in India and I've seen it used in that way as opposed to "Classical music of India" in scholarly works and by the national Sangeet Natak Akademi. Hekerui (talk) 20:28, 16 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: Removing Odissi from the main streams. If anyone want to add, please revise the entire section to reflect your addition, rather than just adding the line.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sivaraj (talk • contribs) 14:26, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Odissi music

message: Portal:Indian classical music has been nominated for deletion, please see discussion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Indian classical music. Thank you for your time, — Cirt (talk) 04:20, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portal:Indian classical music nominated for deletion 

message: Are the scales used in Indian classical music usually diatonic as in the West?  What non-diatonic scales if any are most common?CountMacula (talk) 04:27, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it mainly diatonic? 

message: This section (with the above title) is not only sketchy but misleading, misinformed, and not fully presenting the facts as they stand. It would require an entire wiki page to go into the status of Indian classical music (ICM) today, but ICM is certainly not going out of favor nor is it being supplanted by fusion. Fusion is a remarkable and new direction which Indian and Western music are taking and there is no need to go into it here (it deserves a page of its own), but neither is it pertinent to suggest that fusion is one reason that ICM is going out of favor. In the same context, why is it necessary to mention that Pandit Ravi Shankar collaborated with Western musicians? Does this suggest that Ravi Shankar is partly or wholly responsible for ICM going "out of favor"? On the whole the first paragraph of this section is poor in content and does not support the assertion that ICM is going out of favor.
The second and final paragraph is even less helpful. It makes a somewhat desperate appeal to the existence of Sangeet Sankalp and SPIC MACAY. While these organizations are important for maintaining and sustaining ICM in India and abroad, the wording conveys the mistaken impression that no one else is doing anything to "stem the rot", as it were. This is preposterous. Just two examples suffice: 1) The Sawai Gandharva Music Festival held every year since 1953 in Pune, and 2) The Margazhi Dance and Music Festival held in Chennai every year since the 1920s (also called the Madras Music Season). They are broadly devoted to Hindustani and Carnatic traditions, respectively, and draw huge gatherings. The Margazhi festival in particular, is considered one of the largest cultural events in the World as it is spread over six weeks with over a thousand performances. These festivals are vibrant expressions of a continuing tradition, and showcase new artistes entering the fold of ICM. There are many more such festivals spread over India. Indeed it is hard not to encounter a performance or kacheri in any city on any day. So, the idea that ICM is going out of favor is absolutely incorrect.
One minor but curious point concerns the use of the word "genre". In the final paragraph it is stated that "Nonetheless, several organisations continue to promote this genre." What exactly is the genre that is being referred to? Is Indian classical music a genre? Is this appropriate usage? Genres refer to conventions that change over time. They refer to fluctuating conventions in the art where new forms originate and old forms die, i.e., give rise to new genres. ICM is not a genre in this sense, just as Jazz and Western classical music are not.
On the whole, it is best to get rid of this section ("Status in the twenty-first century") entirely.Ramaratnam (talk) 15:53, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status in the twenty-first century 

message: Material removed for lack of citation should not be restored unless a reliable secondary source is provided. DrKay (talk) 20:52, 30 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Readdition of unsourced material

message: I have a question. Maybe It isn't true, so I want to be sure. I have heard mostly Harmonium in Hindustani classical music, not in Carnatic classical music. But, I want to be sure, if I have true, or not. Please, how is It with Harmonium in Indian classical music?
Thank You.
Cassa342 (talk) 10:29, 31 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indian classical music 

message: Malaylam 2402:3A80:1E09:81D:0:4D:7FE2:6201 (talk) 15:35, 4 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hindustani classical music