Talk:The Bends (album)

message: How exactly are the Village Voice and Albums of the '90s the "same review"? Contemporary and retrospective reviews may happen to have identical scores and/or be written by the same reviewer; that does not make them the same. Also, per WP:ALBUMSTYLE, Christgau's review does give neutrality to the later reviews, which are of perfect or near perfect scores. Ellokk (talk) 22:55, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you read the reviews? isento (talk) 23:36, 4 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Review scores 

message: It is true that The Bends was released in the UK on 13 March 1995, but there are some sayings that it was first released in Japan on 8 March. It is difficult to find a source to confirm this, but in Radiohead's Apple Music they confirmed that the album was actually released on 8 March. Is there anyone can testify or leave a source to prove it? Tamer Gunner (talk) 20:11, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , this would definitely be good to add if you can find a source for it. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to - in my experience a lot of these fiddly bits of data are difficult to source, even when it's for something as fundamental and factual as a release date. Popcornfud (talk) 10:09, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , I kept searching since yesterday and just found this, a Radiohead fanzine, but I don't know if this kind of fanzine-thing is a reliable source or not because it is considered a non-official publication; I need your confirmation about this. I've read it and it's still great and useful for the article. Also see this, reliable but there is some difference. Tamer Gunner (talk) 23:32, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , unfortunately fanzines, fan websites, fan podcasts etc can't be used as sources. Popcornfud (talk) 23:41, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That's bad, I'll keep looking though. Tamer Gunner (talk) 23:46, 12 June 2021 (UTC)

text: , well, how about this? It is true that it is not reliable enough, but we can use it at least temporarily until a more reliable source appears in the future. Tamer Gunner (talk) 00:31, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , per WP:ALBUMAVOID, online trailers like Apple, Amazon etc are to be avoided for sources. I think we should probably keep this out of the article until we can find a good source. Popcornfud (talk) 10:17, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , well, Amazon is really unreliable in terms of reviews, we won't take reviews basically, reviews are not our topic in the first place, all we need is the real release date. And as i understood from this Amazon Summary, they excluded the release date as a reliable source; then said "unnecessary" or "may be unreliable". They didn't said it's "totally rejected." so what do you think?, for me I don't feel it will do any harm. Tamer Gunner (talk) 17:28, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , OK, but that's Amazon. Not sure about Apple. I think it will do harm if we are simply repeating misinformation (retailers sometimes get things wrong). Popcornfud (talk) 18:17, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , put Apple aside, it was just an example for confirmation, same with the fanzine and we won't use them for sure. For Amazon, you said yourself "sometimes" not always, It is impossible for all of these examples to be wrong. At least after making sure of everything and reassurance, we may take the most usable thing, which is Amazon's source. I've said everything I've got and I'll let you think, and by the way, as we speak, I remembered your problem with Amnesiac release date, and I'll solve it right now. Tamer Gunner (talk) 18:37, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: , I'm a bit confused, but never mind. I don't feel too strongly about this issue. I think if you posted at WP:ALBUMS and see what the consensus is there I'd be fine with whatever people thought about the reliability of these sources in this case. Popcornfud (talk) 18:48, 13 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release date