Talk:Systemic psychology

message: Dear collègue,
your définition about systemic psychology is wrong : a very simple reason, is that these psychology do not existe !! 
You make a confusion with, the "systemique approch" that is not a psychology, with the systemique therapy and the familial therapy...
For a scientific information...
Réf. every recents university's books about hystorie of the psychology
Dutkiewicz Marc
Dc./Psychologue and Prof. in psychology /Paris
:The above raises an interesting question: is "systemic psychology" the correct term here? In Europe it is more commonly known as "systemic therapy". 
:On the Wiki page for systemic therapy it is made synonymous with family therapy. While  systemic therapy did grow out of family therapy it is not the same because the systems involved are not limited to families. --Sharktacos (talk) 05:12, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Systemic psychology and systemic therapy 

message: As stated above, this page deals with what is called "systemic therapy" and AFAIK there is no such thing as "systemic psychology". I therefore move that we put the content of this page on the "systemic therapy" page, merge the content of the "systemic therapy" page into the "family therapy" page and redirect this page to "systemic therapy".
Since this a major change I'll wait a bit to see if others would like to discuss other options before I do this. --Sharktacos (talk) 03:42, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I oppose the proposal: see Talk:Family therapy. Marschalko (talk) 07:18, 19 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I agree with Mdd's proposal, provided that a redirect from systemic psychology to systems psychology is created. I would note, however, that the two terms are not exactly synonymous: "systems psychology" is the more commonly used and broader term as Mdd says (and returns, for example, 66,700 Google entries - not that I'm saying that Google is the be all and end all in these things), while "systemic psychology" seems more to connote psychological processes of individuals or small groups (and returns only 2,640 Google entries). I would also support Mdd's proposal that systems psychology then be expanded to become a kind of introductory article to the field - although I think even this would be quite an ambitious project. Marschalko (talk) 02:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I second the motion --Sharktacos (talk) 10:02, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improperly titled page - move to redirect 

message: I wonder if this article could and should be renamed to systems psychology. This term seems to have a much larger use then systemic psychology. In stead of merging all this articles under "family therapy" this article could be an introduction in this field and explain the essence, differences and overlap between all the overlapping fields of "systemic psychology", "systemic therapy", "family therapy", "family systems therapy" etc. -- Mdd (talk) 12:41, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Mdd's proposal, provided that a redirect from systemic psychology to systems psychology is created. I would note, however, that the two terms are not exactly synonymous: "systems psychology" is the more commonly used and broader term as Mdd says (and returns, for example, 66,700 Google entries - not that I'm saying that Google is the be all and end all in these things), while "systemic psychology" seems more to connote psychological processes of individuals or small groups (and returns only 2,640 Google entries). I would also support Mdd's proposal that systems psychology then be expanded to become a kind of introductory article to the field - although I think even this would be quite an ambitious project. Marschalko (talk) 02:17, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I second the motion --Sharktacos (talk) 10:02, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename to systems psychology