Talk:Comedian

message: I noticed that the "humorist" link leads to the Comedian page. They are not one and the same. Somebody smarter than I should think about doing a Humorist page.
:Hello from the future; this has been fixed. See Humorist. JustinTime55 (talk) 20:03, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: family Guy character Stewie Griffin comedian writer producer 98.166.4.250 (talk) 15:59, 28 June 2023 (UTC)

text: American comedian SpongeBob 98.166.4.250 (talk) 16:00, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: I don't know why, but the article mentions that "comic" is a term used for "professional" comedians. As an amateur comedian, I can tell you that's bullsh!t. Comic is just another word for comedian, and it's the preferred label we identify ourselves with. It has nothing to do with what level of the game you're at.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.168.207.237 (talk) 20:33, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Comic vs Comedian

message: I have heard the term "comedian" used in the sense of "humorous writer," as in "Aristophanes was an ancient Greek comedian."  Fishal 18:22, 1 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: other meanings

message: As a reminder, Wikipedia is not a democracy.  We do not vote to determine the truth.  We look at and weigh sources.  Therefore, I am creating a section for editors on either side to present their sources supporting or disputing the usage of "Comedienne". PraetorianFury (talk) 21:48, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This is far from original research.  These kinds of discussions happen all the time when different sources use different terms.  Do you remember the Chelsea Manning incident?  Multiple reliable sources were using different names for the same person, but the editors decided, based on policy, which name to use.  So it is here.  The relevant policy in this case is WP:WEIGHT.  We determine, based on the weight of the sources, what coverage to give to this term.  So far I have seen 0 sources provided to support the usage of comedienne at all.  And female comedians are referring to themselves as "Comedians".  Who could possibly be more reliable in this regard?  Is The Rolling Stone unreliable?  Is Comedy Central unreliable?  There are countless others using this same word because it is overwhelmingly the word of choice in modern English.  I am skeptical of any sort of Google analytics because it will sweep together all unreliable sources as well as these highly reliable sources that I've provided here, not to mention it may fail to distinguish meta data (tags) from actual content.  This whole dispute smells like editors' WP:ADVOCACY, but Wikipedia is not a WP:SOAPBOX, and we are not here to choose what words people should be using.  We look at the words people are using, and there is only one. PraetorianFury (talk) 17:21, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Source Comparison

message: I really don't understand the addition to the Etymology section.  What's does Ellen Degeneres have to do with etymology?  Maybe etymology was the wrong word, I was trying to mimic Actor#Terminology. PraetorianFury (talk) 20:38, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The entire article is very short, this is part of why i wondered why the obsession over moving comedienne out of the lead section where it obviously belongs. Any additions are likely to face similar problems because the structure is a bit odd given how little content there is. i chose the only area that seemed appropriate. Sportfan5000 (talk) 22:23, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: So nothing.  It had nothing to do with etymology, "the study of the history of words, their origins, and how their form and meaning have changed over time."  I have moved it to the section on modern comedy, that is the most appropriate place if any. PraetorianFury (talk) 22:30, 3 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does Ellen Degeneres have to do with the Etymology of Comedienne? 

message: The last sentence of this paragraph ("However, labeling comedians [sic] personality traits as solely "psychotic" does not necessarily mean that individual is a psychopath.") is misleading. "Psychotic" covers a range of mental health problems and is not at all the same as psychopathy (which I don't believe even comes under the umbrella of psychotic disorders). I realise a) this is taken from the source articles and b) the assertion is that these results do not mean the subjects are psychopaths, but it's still incorrect to imply that psychotic personality traits may put someone on the road to being a psychopath when these two conditions have no link.
91.125.193.42 (talk) 09:42, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I will edit that in. We can say that in psychology psychosis is not identical to being a psychopath. Dudanotak (talk) 10:23, 16 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personality Traits 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Should the article include the word comedienne in the lead? Spacecowboy420 (talk) 09:48, 12 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: RFC for use of the term comedienne

message: Forgive me if this seems a bit stream of consciousness...some things are bothering me about this...not right...please bear with me.
First, under Radio: "Radio has been a proving-ground for many comedians." ??? Then we see British / BBC examples. I think this may be a vestigial trace of the British regional bias identified in this article a while back. Maybe US comedy evolved differently than British, but here radio humor is more than just a kindergarten for comics whose destined medium is TV. In 1961, Newton N. Minow famously called TV a "vast wasteland". Radio has long been recognized as the thinking person's medium, because it actually takes some mental effort to listen and visualize in the "mind's eye" what is being heard. The same thing applies to the medium of audio recording. Comics who have flourished in this medium (e.g. The Firesign Theatre) are thus unjustly ignored here. JustinTime55 (talk) 20:36, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recentism; trace of regional bias?; missing info 

message: She likes acting 41.223.75.65 (talk) 22:46, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
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