Talk:American Dream Meadowlands

message: My friend and I dispute the neutrality of the article. It sound like a paid advertisement. That said, the chocolate waterfall in It's Sugar! sounds pretty royale and sweet.
:Doesn't really sound like an advertisement to me. Leo-Roy!review me 01:49, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: *I think someone should post some pictures in this article, as it's becoming bigger. Sk5893 18:08 17 Dec 2006 (UTD)
:There aren't a lot on the Commons. We'll have to wait until somebody decides to upload them there. Leo-Roy!review me 01:49, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos 

message: I cleaned up the "main features" section to make it more neutral and less like an advertisement. I also removed the notice. I think the other notices on the top of the page should be removed also, while they may have held true in the past, I think the article has gotten better.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by LancerEvolution ; (talk • contribs) 20:24, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaned up 

message: The article says "There are also plans to extend the Hudson-Bergen Light Rail to the complex." This is supported by a 5 year-old press release.
Doesn't the existence of the new Meadowlands Rail Line obviate the extension of the HBLR? I think the above sentence should be removed but I don't have any documentary sources that say the light rail option has been abandoned. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 12:54, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  HBLR station possibly abandoned  

message: in the article its states it will be the largest in the united states and third largest in the world. it should be the largest in north amarica...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.3.74.99 (talk) 04:01, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  correction!  

message: I made the name change while not signed in, I apologize.  The name has been changed to "Meadowlands."  
Source: http://www.northjersey.com/news/051410_Ross_taking_over_Xanadu_dumping_name.html
--Laxplayer630 (talk) 03:21, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Name Change 

message: The following coordinate fixes are needed for
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—162.18.92.17 (talk) 14:34, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: —WWoods (talk) 19:25, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinate error 

message: *http://www.northjersey.com/news/business/050311_Christie_to_unveil_sports_complex_revitalization.html
*http://feeds.nytimes.com/click.phdo?i=177dd135e2b9b71f24f493d471de1ca6
add to this list and update the article with content from the news Ocaasi c 04:36, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update 

message: There's a note in the article about Chris Christie bashing the project and then no mention of the massive tax breaks (several hundred million dollars) that were put in place to save it later. A lot of media claims he was championing the cause so it seems relevant to mention. Does this content (absurdly out of date as it is) seem relevant?
http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/06/chris_christie_hopes_to_quickl.html
http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2011/03/gov_christie_change_the_outsid.html
http://www.nj.com/bergen/index.ssf/2011/12/is_the_american_dream_meadowlands_project_too_big_to_fail.html
http://www.wnyc.org/articles/wnyc-news/2011/nov/14/xanadu-re-do-looks-expand-footprint-nj/
Additional updates might include the new developer, their attempt to expand its foot print, and their insane projections at 150,000 visitors a day and how that wont effect the traffic. Yes, I'm biased but there's news articles covering this continued madness which are less biased.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.192.213.33 (talk) 04:56, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  NJ State funding 

message: "American Dream Meadowlands’ amusement park, originally slated to open in the fall of 2013, won’t be finished by the Feb. 2, 2014, date for Super Bowl XLVIII, developer Triple Five conceded in March. And it now says the shopping mall also may not be ready by then." --John Nagle (talk) 17:51, 22 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Still not open, but now refinanced through a public bond issue. --John Nagle (talk) 20:56, 22 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening slipped to 2014 or later 

message: Press reports indicate construction has stopped. The promoters want another $1 billion in financing, financed with public bonds. This is not being well received by local government officials. 
As of July 11, it's questioned whether it will ever open at all. The promoters now say opening "within two years", which pushes the opening to at least 2018.   John Nagle (talk) 07:24, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Progress on the financing deal.  Opening date pushed back to no earlier than summer 2018. John Nagle (talk) 19:57, 10 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  As of August 15, 2016, the developers are trying to get a construction loan so they can restart construction. Undid edit by anon which said "the mall will open in 2018", per WP:CRYSTAL. The info box currently says opening date "unknown", which is the best we can do given the history. John Nagle (talk) 20:25, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Bloomberg reports latest financing deal in litigation. John Nagle (talk) 17:09, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved the section about the stopped construction to the History section. I intend to completely clean up the lede, moving the detailed history to the History section. I am weighing adding the information about this lawsuit and the NJSEA admission of the error in the bond issue to either the History section or the Controversies section. If you feel strongly, you can pick one. Jbbdude (talk) 00:00, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: NYT says construction has restarted.  But they have pictures of the interior of the mall in 2009 and now, and it was closer to completion in 2009. The interior was completely ripped out, to be replaced. "Triple Five estimates that the site is 25 percent complete.". John Nagle (talk) 02:48, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: An anon from New Jersey just added "As of 12/21/16 work has stoped yet again workers told to leave site immediately." Unsourced, and sounds like WP:OR.  NJ TV station report from yesterday indicates the financing deal is in trouble again. Nothing on a construction halt.  If there's no news coverage within 24 hours, suggest deleting that line. John Nagle (talk) 19:52, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: News story confirms work stoppage. John Nagle (talk) 08:17, 23 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Construction is still stopped. Site quiet as of March 2017.. John Nagle (talk) 20:01, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Construction seems to have stopped. 

message: Nickelodeon Universe is finally getting the 2nd theme park, replacing DreamWorks as an indoor theme park in American Dream Meadowlands.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.37.31.142 (talk) 19:56, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: This is incomplete. News reports have indicated that the Nickelodeon Universe will be the theme park, and that the DreamWorks licensing is still set for the water park. I have edited the article accordingly. It's clear that this is a controversial project, but the entertainment tenants list (as it stands in the article now) has all been confirmed by sources within the last year. Jbbdude (talk) 23:30, 15 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nickelodeon Universe replaced DreamWorks as the indoor theme park 

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message: On December 7, 2016, the developers, Triple Five, announced a major design change for the project. The solid exterior walls (already built) are to be removed, and glass walls replace them. Glass roofs replace some existing roofs. News story:  Video of render: . Meanwhile, construction has apparently stopped (again), and the financing deal is stalled (again). John Nagle (talk) 20:24, 2 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Still stalled. WNYC: "Today the site is lifeless. The hundreds of workers who were here in December didn't come back from Christmas break."  Financing deal apparently in limbo. Developers now focusing on new Miami project.. John Nagle (talk) 21:11, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Still stalled, March 2017.. News coverage has died down. No updates on company site. John Nagle (talk) 20:06, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Updated article. Construction stopped in December 2016 and hasn't resumed months later. No news about construction being restarted, new funding, or much of anything, except a local news report of the site still being inactive.  John Nagle (talk) 19:51, 17 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Developer won't respond to media questions about why project has stopped. John Nagle (talk) 17:24, 24 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: An anon changed the status of the project from "stalled" to "abandoned". I undid that; they may be right, but so far no reliable source is saying that. Press reports indicate the construction cranes are still in place. John Nagle (talk) 07:22, 27 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Some progress on funding, but no progress on construction. John Nagle (talk) 08:02, 11 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big design change 

message: https://www.nj.com/news/2020/06/coronavirus-fuels-unease-over-american-dreams-future-and-theres-no-reopening-date-yet.html
https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/business/2020/07/09/american-dream-mega-mall-sues-dongs-bogam-over-7-7-m-lease/5401606002/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 100.11.226.213 (talk) 18:33, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The history of American Dream is missing a few parts, recently  

message: When will the entire American Dream Mall be completed? Zachbarbo (talk) 17:39, December 31, 2021
: Isn't it complete now? Nightscream (talk) 01:55, 1 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Completion 

message: Which of these is a better fit for a new infobox picture?
*https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AmericanDreamExterior2.jpg (say i prefer the entrance from Route 3)
*https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:AmericanDreamExterior.jpg (say i prefer the entrance from NJ 120)
Jibreel23 (talk) 22:52, 26 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  New infobox image