Talk:Steeler Nation

message: "A semi-humorous 2008 article for ESPN.com" how the shit is that semi-humorous. that should be removed. this seems like quite the anti-steelers page, nice job fans of other teams. steelers will always be #1.
There should be some discussion about the downturn of Pittsburgh in the 70s when the Steelers were at their best. Because the city was falling under hard economic times, people were forced to move out. But the Steelers continued to be amazing so they stayed fans, no matter where they live. That's why when the Steelers have an away game, there are always a large number of terrible towels in the crowd.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.178.98.159 (talk) 12:33, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
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message: Something felt wrong about this study, and I finally put a finger on it. When Steelers Nation gets attention from the media, it's not because of the ability of the Steelers to pack their own stadium. It's because of the multitude of Steelers bars in every major city, because of the Terrible Towel in ridiculous locations, because of the thousands of fans that turn up in other peoples' stadia, and because of the fact that people kept their affiliation with the Steelers after leaving Pittsburgh in the 80s. 
I'm okay with the study being on the site. Really, I'm okay with an objective approach here. But before the article was just edited, a study marginalized the obvious prevalence of Steelers Nation, did so using criteria that had nothing to do with the reasons why Steelers Nation is so prominent, and the study was cited right at the top of the article, as though it somehow disproved that prominence. Does that make sense?
These are more gut reactions than cited sources, which is why I'm in the talk page and not editing the article. But I just want to start the conversation! --66.206.186.102 (talk) 06:23, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  bizjournals.com Study 

message: Isn't he a bigger Bears fan anyways? --Tom (talk) 13:00, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I believe he said his second-favorite team is the Steelers. I could go either way on the picture, but he is holding a Steelers jersey. It will need a source if re-added. blackngold29 13:11, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What difference does it really make if Obama's not the most rabid member of "Steelers Nation".  It's a great, free image of the POTUS holding up a Steelers jersey.  And I believe that he's stated that the Steelers are his second favorite team after his hometown Bears (and what politician is ever going to go away from his hometown team), but that's really secondary for me.  Do you really feel this article is improved by the removal of this image?Also, what type of source would be needed for a photo such as this?  The caption made no claim beyond simply describing the photo.  This article seems to be begging for SOME image, what with the big white space in the upper right.  If not the Obama photo, can't we at least add a photo of some Steelers fans? -- Deejayk (talk) 13:32, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The caption did make a claim, it said 'Obama is a Steelers fan'. Describing the picture would be 'This is Obama holding a Steelers jersey', there's a difference. I'm sure there are a ton of articles out there that could be used. blackngold29 13:36, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I would agree, that another inage would be better and that a citation would need to be included that Obama is part of the Steelers Nation if it is going to be used, especially since I heard he really isn't a fan of the team. --Tom (talk) 13:46, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's a cite and there are plenty of pictures in of fans at the Commons. blackngold29 13:56, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Image of POTUS

message: For the love of the Big Chief, the Rooney family, Chuck Noll and all that is black and gold can someone please change the title of this article to the grammatically correct Steelers Nation? There is an S at the end of Steelers. It is plural. Please fix it!
Cruzer85 (talk) 22:33, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.google.com/search?&q=%22steeler+nation%22 speaks for itself. —Bill Price (nyb) 01:38, 4 February 2011 (UTC)

text: See WP:TITLE and WP:OR, which together basically say "Wikipedia calls things what other people call them, and we report things the way other sources report them. We don't ever try to 'set the record straight'." "Steeler Nation" is clearly the best name for the article per real-world usage. —Bill Price (nyb) 17:56, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change the name please 

message: This content dispute has posed a few different questions:
*Are the Phoenix New Times generally and PNT editor Martin Cizmar specifically considered reliable sources?
*Are the terms "hillbilly" and "white trash" (cited to a newspaper) so vulgar or obscene that they violate WP's policy onoffensive material?
*Is material that criticizes an NFL fanbase using those terms worthy of inclusion on a page about that fanbase?
(For additional background, see earlier talk page discussions, as well as the closed requests at DRN and ARBCOM.
— Bdb484 (talk) 17:46, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: * I'll also note that Cizmar shows himself to be quite the <WP:PA withdrawn prior to posting> .. proves himself to be quite uneducated with a complete lack of understanding of the term Hillbilly.  Pittsburgh is a lot of things .. but sorry - "rural" is NOT one of them. —  ChedZILLA 10:31, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Totally agree that the Criticism section needs to be removed. --76.189.120.119 (talk) 22:45, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree. The comments are actually pretty explicitly critical of the fans, rather than the team. I'm not sure you actually read the source, or even the headline. — Bdb484 (talk) 15:06, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
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message: It still irks me that the grammatically incorrect "Steeler Nation" is used as the headline for this article & is un-editable. Cruzer85 (talk) 23:40, 13 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This could be fixed by a simple move. It makes sense to me to change the name of the article to Steelers Nation. If anyone objects to this name change, please explain your concerns here, otherwise I'm supportive of undertaking the renaming process. — DeeJayK (talk) 02:35, 14 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Article name change to Steeler'''s''' Nation ?

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