Talk:Hackintosh

message: Actions should be taken. Vincent Pun talk 11:06, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You take them.  We are not here to deal with your suggestions.  Get off the beat. Yesitsnot (talk) 04:53, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too many advertisements in External Links. 

message: Add a section called "Legality of OSx86"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.108.13.2 (talk) 03:05, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add a section 

message: Theres a bit too much jargon parts of it would be hard to understand for any one not completley familiar with this end of technology. For example the article discusses missing SSE3 instructions in early releases, what does that entail? What doesn't work because of missing SSE3 instructions ? that sort of thing.
72.147.77.11 (talk) 09:51, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jargon Cleanup 

message: This user, 172.188.187.67, may need to be blocked. The user repeatedly inserts a link to a practically content-free ad revenue site. The link is disguised with an OSx86 title.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.205.56.11 (talk) 20:06, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, its gone on long enough. I'll try to look into contacting the admin folks about it. – ɜɿøɾɪɹℲ ( тɐʟк • ¢ʘи†ʀ¡βs ) 20:28, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've warned him and if he keeps it up, I'll post it on the admin noticeboard. – ɜɿøɾɪɹℲ ( тɐʟк • ¢ʘи†ʀ¡βs ) 20:37, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Spam Block On A User May Be Needed 

message: the osx86project link should not be up there if the other sites like hackint0sh.org, osx86scene.org, and maconpc.org are not up there.  the osx86project page is run by the same people that run insanely mac and if other sites are being removed it should go or they should all stay. It is unfair just to advertise one site on the topic when there are many others with just as much information on the topic. In general OSX86 users go between all four sites for information. It is the same principal as if you were to not mention linux and only microsoft on the operating systems article. It is unethical to have one and not the others so leave them all up as they provide useful information and it is in the interest of people who want to learn more about the topic.
:WP:NOTLINK - WP is not a collection of links. WP:EL - among those that you added are a 2 forums, an inactive blog, and a dead link. Elsendero (talk) 10:07, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please familiarize yourself with WP:NOTLINK and WP:EL. Attempting to create an exhaustive listing of external links is not an improvement to the article. It is considered spamming. Your contributions are welcome, please consider  ways to improve the content of the article. The osx86project wiki does appear to be active according to its recent changes page. In any case, the rationale for it appears to be that it is historically important to the topic. The links you added (that are reachable) point to 2 forums and an advertisement supported blog. Elsendero (talk) 02:33, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not my link. It goes to the the project wiki page. Elsendero (talk) 03:27, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: hackintosh was also the name of a '90s mac/hacker oriented ezine. it was distributed as one of those self reading document apps iirc. it's where the alt.hackintosh newsgroup came from.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.193.194.181 (talk) 21:37, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  hacker ezine 

message: no where does it mention the deadmoo iso image, which is in some places more popular than jas or other install dvds, although it is noted that deadmoo is distributed post-install as a vmware set, and a tiger.img file which is the hard drive image of the installation. (I personally used installed it to my harddrive via the linux dd command after reading other's success of using it). I just feel that it deserves to be mentioned in this article.
and all you mac fanatics out there who don't like your system being reduced to just expensive hardware, deal with it, os x is just proprietary unix anyway. (reference, my own dissecting of OS X on my own pc on top of my computer science major :)) . 71.204.234.179 (talk) 07:43, 3 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  deadmoo image? 

message: Folks, this is an encyclopedia and it has a reputation to loose. So please let us not (mis-) use it for dropping hacker's alias names. Build up an osx86 fan site, post your community stories there and WP might link to it. Thanks. --Edoe2 (talk) 15:17, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hacker alias name dropping 

message: hey wikians,
I think everyone has noticed that this page has become quite aged and stale.  I think there is a lot of unnecessary jargon (as already noted) but more importantly a lack of recent developments being discussed.  I've just finished up taking the time to write about the recent boot-132 method of installing Leopard and am about to apply my edits.
Best regards!
Mrdoomino (talk) 00:21, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Given Judge Alsup's summery judgment I think this article is effectively dead for the reason I laid out in the intro.  Wikipedia frowns on copyright violations and Alsup has upheld Apple's position that its locking of its OS to Apple hardware is protected by the DMCA.  Until the details are thrashed out I think it wise to err on the side of caution.--BruceGrubb (talk) 17:21, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  boot-132 

message: Given the Apple vs Psystar case ruled that Apple's methods of linking MacOS X to Apple hardware was protected under the DMCA any Mac clone is on very shaky legal ground.  Also with the exception of Psystar none of them are that notable.--BruceGrubb (talk) 20:16, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If the articles exist, I think we should link to the articles there. It is not our job to censor info, and something as simple as mentioning the companies is probably not illegal. We also have an article on ThePirateBay, a website that encourages copyright infringment, and it's OK for us to talk about that. --SF007 (talk) 11:17, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried that argument in the Christ Myth Theory page with John Remsburg and it didn't fly. If it didn't fly there then why should what is effectively the same argument fly here espcially as I had references shows that Remsburg was used in the argument?  Besides of the three only Psystar was the only truly notable one and they have effectively stopped being a Mac clone maker.  The Bison article is up for deletion and nothing seems to have been mentioned on PearC in nearly a year.--BruceGrubb (talk) 16:01, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with SF007 here. Wikipedia is not censored.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.85.210.184 (talk) 22:00, 27 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia is not about giving free advertisement or  violating others copyrights either.  The Bizon Computers article has been deleted for lack of notability, PearC has a "may not meet the general notability guideline" tag and likely will also be soon on the chopping block as well.  If these companies cannot keep their own articles do to lack of notability then why even bother mentioning them other than to make them notable?  Newsflash here: Wikipedia does censor things that are not notable as proven by the removal of the Bizon Computers article.--BruceGrubb (talk) 00:49, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current Mac clones may not be legal and for the most part are not notable and therefore should not be listed 

message: This build was used as a way to distribute goatse.  There was a hoax that the build was available, but in fact, the materials spread goatse.  It was widely spread. Yesitsnot (talk) 04:58, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Which build? Where's the evidence? -- Hoary (talk) 10:34, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I know a guy who knows a guy who got goatse from that. Yesitsnot (talk) 19:26, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Would not matter. Not notable enough for inclusion in this article. Ethelred Cyning (talk) 13:15, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goatse 

message: EFiX is confirmed to use real EFi implementation, but not emulation and is not based on any OSX86 project known till today.
Test way i used to confirm this:
I booted with EFiX V1.1 under Mac OS X Snow Leopard (10.6) and extracted via terminal so called ioreg
"ioreg -lw0 > destination.txt"
Then i booted with seveal hackintosh solutions (Chameleon and other)and extracted also ioreg too, 
then i boot same OS and same revision of OS of course under Mac Pro and Mac Book Pro.
The Ioreg tables between EFiX and real Mac hardware are almost identical, in my opinion and according to the content of ioreg, which you can easy extract by your own,
you will find that sometimes Mac OS X 10.6 booted with help of EFiX show better ioreg-log's than on a real apple hardware. How this guys this do, is not clear to me and for this article not relevant.
When you compair ioreg log's finally to any hackintosh, then you will very fast discover that most of values are incorrect, missing, improper or invalid.
If you would pay attention to details and structure, then you will see that hackintosh compaired to EFiX or real Mac hardware missing a lot of functionality which can be reached with help of real EFi implementation only and will be not possible to archive with boot132 due its serious limitations.
Comparation to Psystars released booting way resulted that they were using strong modified Chameleon, OSX86 project also. 
Some of bugs are clearly taken direct from Chameleon and Netkas hacking solutions.
Hope helps to clarify about EFiX for this article, 
but in fact i would contact EFiX developers, ASEM (www.art-studios.net) with questions, they will, so i believe, give by far better explanations to their products...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 114.44.96.205 (talk) 01:51, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  regarding EFiX module which boot Mac OS X Snow Leopard and Mac OS X 10.5 

message: Does Wikipedia let Apple Inc. write its articles now? The title of this page is a joke and it should be changed back to Hackintosh or OSx86. 91.49.199.89 (talk) 13:47, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: No, Wikipedia provides the technical means to User:Proud User to make such a change (here). I have reverted it. (See also the section below.) -- Hoary (talk) 23:54, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Illegal Macintosh cloning" 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Support move from 'illegal', but not to 'cloning' 'clone' is too close to 'Starmax' etc. Suggest Hackintosh, or OSX86 or OSX86 computers. These are the names actually used by the people who do or want to know about these things.Pincrete (talk) 18:44, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Clarification, 'Illegal etc' is truly terrible in every way, inaccurate, unhelpful, and judgmental. 'Cloning' is too easily confused with its well established use for a previous generation of licensed, Mac compatibles (which are a seperate subject, it isn't simply the legal/illegal element). Pincrete (talk) 08:55, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The 1990-ish 'clones' are a different subject, and couldn't really merge. This article, I believe, is specifically about 'OSx86' rather than other ways of running Mac on PC, though virtualisation is mentioned. I think 'OSx86', (rather than OSx86 project), is sufficiently broad. Though if someone could come up with a better title?Pincrete (talk) 08:55, 3 September 2015 (UTC)

text: I think that it was the change to Intel processors that made hack-cloning possible, there were of course the legal 'clones' in PPC days, but other than that the only way to run Mac systems on PCs was virtualization software, mostly of what has come to be called OS9.0 or lower.Pincrete (talk) 20:16, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, while the RS/6000 was at some point intended to run classic Mac OS, this plan was abandoned and I doubt the firmware was compatible enough for anyone to ever get vanilla Mac OS (classic/X) to boot on such a machine. —Ruud 21:27, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: :Any additional comments:
There may be some confusion with Macintosh Clone, open to better ideas. Jonathan Williams (talk) 15:21, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: *Comment: I regret that you found very unhelpful my restoration of an article title that had been changed suddenly and unilaterally. Note that I pinged you, together with (I think and hope) every other person who'd commented before the re-renaming, in order to alert you to this second change of title. -- Hoary (talk) 10:11, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know whose 'fault' this is, I was only commenting that the effect, was to make it unclear what we had responded to. Your restore MAY make this discussion unnec. since 'Illegal' was (I think) the proposer's main concern.Pincrete (talk) 10:54, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hoary, please don't rename article while a discussion is in progress in the future. Even if a previous rename was "clearly wrong" and "unilateral", that doesn't offset the confusion that is created by moving an article in the middle of a discussion. —Ruud 14:32, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was: Moved. (non-admin closure) –Ammarpad (talk) 07:12, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: OSx86 →  – OSx86 refers to a specific project  while the page itself contains general information about installing macOS on non-Apple hardware. These systems are generally known as Hackintoshes.  Ianmcxa (talk) 23:55, 20 January 2018 (UTC)

text: This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:50, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 21 January 2018