Talk:Switchfoot

message: I keep seeing the band members referred to only as 'Chad' or 'Drew.' In my opinion, this sounds unprofessional, and if they aren't being introduced, it seems more encyclopedic to refer to them as 'Butler' or 'Shirley'. I think this makes it sound less like a fan site. If you think about it, you rarely see someone referred to solely their first name in a newspaper or anything else. It would make sense to change this on the individual member pages as well. The only question I have is what the best way is to efficiently distinguish Jon and Tim, without saying 'Tim Foreman' every single time. I want it to sound professional, but not redundant. What does everybody else think? —Akrabbimtalk 23:49, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You have a good point, although as you mentioned it is difficult with brothers in the band.  Looking through the reference it appears as if most magazines/articles and stuff refer to most band members by their last name, but in most statements/ press releases from the band they refer to themselves by their first name.  I would be opposed for going through and changing them all, but we probably should mix it up a little more --T-rex 00:19, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: MoS:BIO addresses this.  "After the initial mention of any name, the person may be referred to by surname only...The use of the first name gives the impression that the writer knows the subject personally...To disambiguate between siblings or other well-known relatives with the same surname, use the surname of the article header to indicate that person, and use first names or complete names to indicate siblings or others."  I had a fun time trying to figure out how to apply that at the No Doubt article since Eric Stefani left, but his sister Gwen stayed.  ShadowHalo 06:38, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So does that mean we refer to Jon and Tim as 'Jon and Tim' or 'Jon Foreman and Tim Foreman'? —Akrabbimtalk 15:18, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually that line seems to refer more to where one has preference over the other, such as mentioning Tim in the Jon Foreman article. I'm actually starting to think this might be a poor idea, looking at some other good articles I've found U2 switches between Larry Mullen and Larry, but no instances of Mullen (I ignored Bono and The Edge as obvious exceptions), Howie Day switches between all three, and Bob Marley always seems to use the full "Bob Marley", The Fray (band) which half has the brother thing going on switches between first and full name, but mostly uses their full names --T-rex 16:08, 22 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, the main article doesn't really have much of a problem; it was more the members' respective pages. I've fixed what I saw there though. —Akrabbimtalk 20:16, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I believe, as a matter of opinion, that it's okay to address them with their first names. I'm subscribed to thier Newsletter and they always address each other with their first names and they sign their weekly Newsletters with just their firstnames too. To make it sound friendly and warm I guess. Fleurbutterfly 17:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names in bios, etc. 

message: At school, I recently saw a poster or something for this Christian Youth thing in Sydney. It was about a month or two ago, just wondering if they are touring? andrewrox424 Bleep 10:04, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You should try checking on their website for tour dates.  Individual tour dates, unless something important happens at them, do not belong in Wikipedia articles.  =David(talk)(contribs) 18:10, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Switchfoot is almost always on tour.  For individual dates check switchfoot's website.  It is highly unlikly that any individual tour dates will be listed here. --T-rex 15:02, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Touring? 

message: Someone keeps erasing all Christain chart peaks put in the singles section. Would the Billboard Hot Christain Songs Chart be erased as well?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.134.145.6 (talk) 15:15, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I need to integrate into the text or infobox that their song "Awakening" was the 9th most played song on Christian Hit Radio in 2007.(ref)2007 Year End Charts/Top Christian CHR songs, R&R magazine, Retrieved January 6 2008(/ref) Most mainstream music contributors to Wikipedia appear to not understand that Billboard charts do not accurately rank Christian Hit Radio (aka Contemporary Christian music), but it is instead done by their sister company R&R (magazine). I contend that Billboard is not the only chart to include in Wikipedia articles. I understand both Christian and mainstream music very well and I regularly listen to both on the radio. Royalbroil 14:35, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Billboard Hot Christian Songs Chart 

message: Umm...Why is Switchfoot listed here as Post-Grunge? They are way too light to be anywhere near the grunge genre. Don't get me wrong, I really like this band, they're one of my favorites. They are simply a lighter band. Christianrocker (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 01:48, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this is due to many people only being familiar with their earlier singles, such as Meant to Live which do venture into "post-grunge" more than their other stuff. That said, I've removed this as a genre. --T-rex 23:54, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The post grunge genre is really a very non-specific term (our article says it has become the "main rock format in America"), so I wouldn't say it incorrectly defines Switchfoot. It really encompasses all rock since the mid-90s that has skirted the mainstream rock and pop arenas, and that maintains a heavy sound (which I think Switchfoot has).  There is certainly nothing 'grungy' about them (the term evokes the hobo kinda look like in this picture), but that doesn't exclude them from the post-grunge genre. —Akrabbimtalk 03:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I think that a more accurate description of the Switchfoot genre is Surf Rock, based upon the fact that they are a San Diego band with a name based on a surfing term and a sound that matches more of the lighter California underground genres.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.34.30.19 (talk) 18:23, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Genre

message: The awards listed on wikipedia have no citations, and don't entirely tally with the awards website
Andrew Duffell (talk) 21:26, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I see nothing obviously wrong, but it probably should be checked and cited. --T-rex 03:56, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  San Diego Music Awards 

message: Just a quick comment of encouragement form a longtime 'Foot fan...I loved reading this article! It's very informative and well-written. Keep up the good work. -Luinfana (talk) 20:06, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Article Rocks 

message: If anyone wants to expand on the first paragraph of Switchfoot#Style and influences, feel free to pick up where I left off with my kind of permanent writer's block (one of the reasons I went into engineering).  I think there should be more describing their sound and style, but it is slow going for me as a writer, especially since I am trying to avoid sounding like a fansite. —Akrabbimtalk 15:29, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style and influences 

message: The song "Dare You to Move" was immediately a hit, and is now their most popular song as of yet. They always close their concerts with this song, as a result of it's growing popularity. The songs "Meant to Live," "Only Hope," and "This is Your Life" have also been selected as Switchfoot's "Best" songs. All of these songs were included on the 2008 greatest hits album, "The Best Yet." The most popular album today would most certainly be "The Beautiful Letdown", which included "Meant To Live," "This is Your Life," and "Dare You to Move." -Trey Brockman —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.3.184.143 (talk) 23:17, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular Songs 

message: I've moved the awards to a separate article, as they were taking a lot of space here. I could use some help with providing reference sources for the awards (so far only the Grammys and an ASCAP award for Jon are covered), and there are probably also some nominations missing, as only Switchfoot's wins were listed in the Awards section of this article. I've found info about the Grammy nomination for Learning to Breathe, but I have no knowledge about for example any other GMA Dove Awards or San Diego Music Awards nominations. So any help with developing that article will be much appreciated :-) — Mayast (talk) 11:54, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of awards and nominations received by Switchfoot]] 

message: After looking at several other bands pages, I noticed that there are these little charts at the bottom, showing a visual of the band members and their activity in the band instrument wise. I noticed Switchfoot didn't have one, and added that myself a month or two ago. It now makes this band fit in with the other bands out there!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Micah1104 (talk • contribs) 00:14, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Band Member Chart 

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message: Added a sentence about the new album under Interrobang and there’s another that has an album with this title. Rossidor (talk) 22:43, 21 July 2021 (UTC)
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message: Associated Acts Otter Bea (talk) 01:09, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
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