Talk:National September 11 Memorial & Museum

message: This one is obvious:  The wining design name is now being used as a synonym for the memorial. patsw 03:46, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge Discussion

message: * The official spelling is absence.
* My understanding is that the name Reflecting Absence is the name of the winning design entry and not intended to be a permanent name for the memorial replacing World Trade Center Memorial or it may refer to the twin pools alone which were formerly called twin voids. patsw 04:02, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Reflecting Absence

message: The natural source of images, the World Trade Center Memorial Foundation, Inc., has restricted the usage of their images  in a manner that conflicts with the requirements of the Wikipedia.  If you want to add one of their images, you might want to discuss it here first. patsw 04:07, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Why are there no images?

message: Putting all the info about the withdrawn proposals at the start of the article is poor placement.  It should be moved to the end of the article. patsw 18:04, 6 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Moving the withdrawn proposals to the end of the article

message: Currently, the Memorial and Museum section of this article lists the International Freedom Center. Given that the IFC will not be part of the WTCM, it seems its inclusion is inappropriate.
Ordinary Person 04:24, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Memorial and Museum

message: It's unclear in this article whether a new WTC will be rebuilt, or whether the memorial will take the place of the two towers which fell.  I thought there was always a plan to build new, tall buildings on the site to replace the original ones, so as not to lose the value of the real estate.  Can a sentence thoroughly explaining this be added to the article, please?  Badagnani 02:58, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you look at the WTC article you will see where the new buildings are in relation to the footprints of the twins. SGGH speak! 10:10, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No rebuilt WTC?

message: The article http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/12/nyregion/12memorial.html directly contradicts the claim that there was no way to prevent the water from freezing in winter. Although nozzles would freeze in winter, the solution they came up with does not. I was trying to source the statement and found out it was untrue! I guess providing citations does guard against untrue statements.... Wood Thrush (talk) 04:20, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: water in winter

message: Since the '9/11 Survivor Tree' is a notable tree on the plaza and survived conditions similar to or worse than the 'Oklahoma City Memorial Survivor Tree', should a short section be made dedicated to the tree like in the Oklahoma City National Memorial article? Stormchaser89 (talk) 06:20, 11 September 2011 (US Central time)
:I agree, if you can find sources about it then feel free to add it =). - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 01:19, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a subsection for "Memorial features" with a subsection of "Survivor Tree." Adding content with sources now. Please feel free to tweak. I think a few more subsections for features would also be useful - e.g., the pools, the plaza. Qwirty (talk) 13:35, 17 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Special Section for the Survivor Tree? 

message: There must be official plans of the structure, but all I have been able to find online is "30 foot waterfall" into a "one acre pool." The article should state the depth of the "1 acre pool" as well as the length of the sides of the waterfall. Also, readers might be interested in the size of the central void, and the depth of the central hole. A cross sectional diagram would add to the encyclopedic quality of the article, and would help to explain the circulation of the water. Is this basic information a secret at this point? Edison (talk) 04:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Architectural plans

message: While working out articles in the September 11 scope, I have found several that seem to cover the same or similar subject matter, too similar for there to be more than one article. I have recently found National September 11 Memorial & Museum at the World Trade Center. It seems to cover the events before this museum and is out of date. I think that if these were merged with care, they could form a very decent article. | helpdןǝɥ | 17:49, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: *Support merge.  They're addressing the same topic.  MakeBelieveMonster (talk) 21:53, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have merged most of the information from the old article into this one. The old article is now just a redirect. Cadiomals (talk) 20:44, 10 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: 174.116.248.170 (talk) 04:32, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Design Team 

message: As of March 2012, there are two "fundraising sections" which both describe general fundraising. It would probably be good to merge these and find a better section to put the merged content. Also, the "Gallery" near the bottom of the page is a subsection of the "Museum" section, but seems like it should be its own section since it does not seem to apply specifically to the museum construction. Any thoughts? Qwirty (talk) 10:58, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean-up and reorganize some sections

message: I've seen several broken reference links - fixed a few of them. I don't want to just remove them since that seems "rude" but haven't had time yet to find updated links. For a few of the facts cited, though, I believe there may not be a current reference link. Part of the problem, I think, is that some of these links were to the original memorial website, which has moved around a few times over the years. Qwirty (talk) 11:11, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Broken reference links

message: There were a few edits around 3/31/2012 where this section was removed and put back in. I agree that it doesn't fit very well as current written with the rest of the article, but don't think the content should be lost altogether. How about moving it to Memorials and services for the September 11 attacks and/or formatting it better according to Wikipedia:Manual of Style/Lists, either within an existing page or as a standalone list page? My vote would be to incorporate it into the text of Memorials and services for the September 11 attacks where we can work specific list items into that text, and to include any list items which don't fit well into that text as a standalone list section in that page, and then to include a link via a "See also" section from this page. Thoughts? Qwirty (talk) 21:22, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: The "Other 9/11 memorials" section

message: after a review of the user logs ,, i noticed a delete..
this info should be included in the article, since school children and the likes have had fund raising drives and have saved pennies and dollars and that since the museum now wants $20 to $25 a person for an entrance fee....... this should be part of the museum
:
* Joe Daniels, President: $371,307
* Alice Greenwald, Executive VP for Programs: $351,100
* Joan Gerner, Executive VP, Capital Planning (Left in Spring 2010): $337,143
* Cathy Blaney, Executive VP, Development: $322,292
* David Langford, CFO: $224,113
* Luis Mendes, VP Design and Construction: $221,429
* Lynn Rasic, Senior VP, Public Affairs: $214,270
* Noelle Lilien, General Counsel: $193,316
* Suany Chough, Senior Adviser, Design Construction and Planning: $190,831
* Allison Bailey, Chief of Staff to President: $171,417  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.12.43.27 (talk) 19:30, 4 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Highest earners at the National September 11 Memorial & Museum (2009 total compensation)

message: Thoughts on separating the memorial and the museum? This article seems long, and there is surely enough information about both independently. ----Another Believer (Talk) 22:39, 6 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: They're part of the same project and structure. I oppose such a split. Epicgenius (talk) 16:40, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose Part of the same structure. David J Johnson (talk) 18:01, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separate memorial and museum? 

message: Will the memorial honor victims of the '93 bombing, or will there be another memorial to replace the one destroyed on 9/11?96.247.7.59 (talk)   — Preceding undated comment added 18:58, 10 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The memorial already honors the six adult victims of the 1993 bombing at the North Pool. (The unborn baby doesn't count, apparently.) Epicgenius (talk) 14:46, 23 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  '93 bombing 

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message: Subject says most of it. Could someone who has authorization to edit the page please update the year counts? Thank you.
Never forget. CarsonG1017 (talk) 00:57, 12 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dates need updating!