Talk:Make A Child Smile

message: May I ask what is wrong with this page describing the services of a registered tax-exempt CHARITY???
Please clarify, and I will gladly edit what is not allowed to be there.
I have found Wikipedia pages of other charities, so please let me know what is wrong with this one.
Thank you,
Alexandra Bakker
:Greetings. The article appears to be wikispam, i.e., an advertisement masquerading as an article. Articles considered advertisements include those that are solicitations for a business, product or service, or are public relations pieces designed to promote a company or individual. Wikispam articles are usually noted for sales-oriented language and external links to a commercial website. Blatant examples of advertising masquerading as articles can be speedily deleted. 
:When an article on an otherwise encyclopedic topic has the tone of an advertisement, the article can often be salvaged by rewriting it in a neutral point of view and adding context, e.g., historical relevance or community recognition. Please provide sources to establish the subject's notability. Of course, the need for sources goes beyond notability. Information added to an article must be verifiable, and facts included must be attributed to a reliable source. Please also see Wikipedia's guideline concerning conflicts of interest. Thanks. --Evb-wiki (talk) 13:12, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

message: I see... Ok.. I changed the wording of the "Previous Kids" paragraph as it did sound like it was "asking" for people to do something. Now it sounds more like a statement.
As for the DONATIONS header, should that be totally deleted or maybe reworded?
And how do I provide "sources to establish the subject's notability"?? I have absolutely no idea how.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by MACSORG (talk • contribs) 13:24, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see Wikipedia:Citing sources. --Evb-wiki (talk) 14:44, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Okay

message: I just removed the text "Visit the Donations page today to make your tax-deductible contribution." from the DONATIONS header, is this ok now?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by MACSORG (talk • contribs) 13:28, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: An administrator will come by (soon or eventually) and decide whether the article now meets Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion. --Evb-wiki (talk) 14:44, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, I am that administrator.  I've decided not to delete the article on grounds that it's advertising, since sufficient edits have been made so that it no longer reads as an advert.  However, it's possible that the subject does not meet our notability guidelines, and that's another criterion for speedy deletion.  I'll leave it be for now, but Evb-wiki (or another user) may feel inclined to add a  tag to the page, which could well see the article deleted.  To avoid that, please make sure the subject meets our notability requirements and that the introduction to the article makes that clear. Waggers (talk) 15:47, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fixed?

message: Hello Evb, thank you for helping with that one Citation, and following the example, I was able to do the others too. By the way, Redbook was page 90, not 50. It does look like 50 on the image, so I double-checked the magazine itself and it was page 90.
So we're almost done. Wonderful!!! I'm so glad we're getting somewhere!! But what to do on Maury and Nick Jr.?
--Maury - I did put a citation with info needed such as the name of the show, when it aired, etc.. and linked to the image of myself sitting next to Maury. Is that considered done?
--Nick Jr. - As I wrote above, the page of the article, does not have an Author. I can put the rest of the information in, but whose name do I put down? The Magazine Editor?
MACSORG (talk) 21:41, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never cited a tv episode, but try Template:Cite episode. A web link is not required. The important thing is to provide enough info that it can be checked out. See WP:Verifiability. --Evb-wiki (talk) 21:49, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: In the News - Citations done?

message: Hi Evb. It's all done now! (at least that section is.)
I added the Template:Cite episode to the Maury Show.
And I was able to find the authors of the Nick Jr. article. Their names were just a few pages back.
So we're done there right?
MACSORG (talk) 05:29, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: In the News - DONE!

message: Hello?? Evb?? Knock-Knock... Where are you??
The December 25th newspaper Article came out. It's really nice, they did a good job, BUT, they made a lot of mistakes by naming my website "Making Children Smile" (correct is Make A Child Smile) and gave the URL as www.makingchildrensmile.org (which doesn't even exist). Aaaargh!! I was so upset!!
So I will not be using that article as a Citation.
So please let me know if I can use the other sources I mentioned above (Kathy Lee Gifford's website or the The Baldwin Bulletin Newspaper - which is just the text on my website, not the paper itself or their own website)
Since there is a Template to Cite Web, we're ok then right? It doesn't NEED to be in Print always then. Correct?
Puleeeze let me know... I can't wait until this is over and the page is done so I can brag to everyone on the Make A Child Smile Newsletter that we're honored to be part of Wikipedia!!!!
MACSORG (talk) 10:52, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hello?

message: Are we ever going to finish this?? Have been waiting for a reply from Evb since Dec 23rd.
MACSORG (talk) 15:17, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: No Reply?

message: Almost 2 years later... and I am still waiting for someone to respond. When can I ever get help to finally remove that "notability" section on the top of the article? Just can't seem to get anyone to respond and help.
MACSORG (talk) 06:48, 28 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 2 years later

message: 4½ YEARS later... I am still waiting for someone to respond so the "notability" warning can be removed from this article, even though, for now, the charity has closed down. I am the founder of Make A Child Smile and my goal is to re-open it as soon as possible. Still, I did not want to leave an article saying everything in the present tense as it was not accurate. As for the notability paragraph, I still wish to have it removed, so please advise what I need to do. Since I last wrote here, there has been printed books referencing to schools, scouts, etc.. using MACS as a service project, so is a Reference link to the actual page in the book via 'Google Books' enough to remove that notability paragraph? Take a look here and let me know... http://books.google.com/books?id=TDl6E4OVhVgC&lpg=PA353&dq=make%20a%20child%20smile%20(macs)&pg=PA353#v=onepage&q=make%20a%20child%20smile%20(macs)&f=false
˜˜˜˜  — Preceding unsigned comment added by MACSORG (talk • contribs) 09:41, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: 4½ years later

message: I removed the Notability box at the top of the page because I got tired of waiting for someone to reply and continue helping me. Almost 5 years ago, I tried doing EVERYTHING possible to get this all done as fast as I could, but needed help. Help disappeared and I just could not figure out how to contact someone from Wikipedia.
If there's anything else needing corrections, please let me know. Thank you! MACSORG (talk) 06:05, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Got tired of waiting

message: Sorry, I just realized that I shouldn't have clicked on the Minor Edit Box earlier, (after reading the do's and don'ts) but cannot find how to undo the "minor box", so I am adding here again, what were the changes I made to the article earlier:
I inserted the last name "d'Avila" to my name in 2 instances (infobox and body), changed the city from Minneola to Clermont (infobox) and removed the word "temporarily" in the end of the body text, where it said that the Org had been closed down temporarily, as it is now permanent. MACSORG (talk) 13:26, 11 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor Edit