Talk:Personal watercraft

message: Is the "water craft" in "personal water craft" really two words? The wikipedia definition for watercraft is one word. If that is correct, this page should be moved to the proper title.--Daveswagon 06:58, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Another editor moved it to this title because, I believe he thought it made the initials "PWC" more logical. But I always see the term spelled "watercraft". If there's no objection I'll move it back. -Will Beback 07:48, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move page? 

message: I have removed external links to discussion forums as they are a violation of WP:EL. -- MakeChooChooGoNow 09:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: In the article it states that PWC can travel up to 70mph or 96Kph.  This conversion is wrong.
:It should be in knots anyway. -Will Beback 23:25, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Would it be worth noting that in 2017, with the introduction of the Yamaha GP1800 and the use of aftermarket parts, that some watercraft are capable of safe top speeds of 88-90mph? source - http://rivaracing.com/i-24077028-gp1800-stage-3-kit.html   --Rheigel (talk) 17:01, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miles per hour 

message: Hi everyone.  I just recently discovered the Susan Ford case which highlights the gory risk of orifice injuries from the powerful jet coming out of a PWC.  On the one hand, this is a freak accident but on the other hand it indicates the extreme danger of PWCs.  The opinion is: Ford v. Polaris Industries, Inc., 139 Cal. App. 4th 755 (2006).  Do you guys think it's worth mentioning in the article? --Coolcaesar 08:15, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: One option would be to say that manufacturer's have been found liable for serious injuries inflicted on users by the devices, and then use the case as a source. Scanning through the case I see that they already had a warning label on the device covering the issue, plus the engineer had conducted tests, so this can't have been a freak accident. -Will Beback · † · 08:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The orifice injury issue 

message: Would it be practical to put a lightly-armored partial encloser and a turreted .50 cal on a jetski? Does anyone know whether something like that has been done? 69.12.155.64 21:41, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not for us to decide whether it's practical. But if anyone finds a source on the topic we can include that info. -Will Beback · † · 22:37, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Military Use 

message: What is the idea behind the variable plume of water that is usally seen from the tail of one of these craft when the engine is running? Is it to increase the visibility of the craft or is it some other reason? This info would be good to include. EdX20 02:47, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Water Plume 

message: Extremely, horribly, badly, written article, needs rewrite.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeepcomanche1 (talk • contribs) 06:54, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Total Rewrite needed 

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message: Kirk Glover, stepson of Usher, has died after an accident involving a personal watercraft http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-technology/ushers-stepson-dies-2-weeks-after-lake-accident-20120722-22hst.html - Is this worth including in article? Too controversal? Not relevant? Perhaps there were other factors involved?(23rd July 2012) Ern Malleyscrub (talk) 09:43, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Tragic Death from Personal Water Craft

message: I cut the following out of what had been the "References" section and am pasting them here exactly as they were. Some may be suitable as RSs, some not. It is unlcear whether any should be "Further reading", but they didn't belong where they were. I'm pasting them here in case they can be of use to editors as they inprove this article.
Gasoline Boats and Personal Watercraft. Retrieved on May 4, 2005.
* California Air Resources Board. Recreational Marine Engine Activities. Retrieved on May 4, 2005.
* Chad Nelsen (1988). Jet Skis Suck. Surfrider Foundation. Retrieved on May 4, 2005.
* Surfrider Foundation. (1988). Minimizing the Impacts of Personal Watercraft- Part II: Seeking a Solution. Retrieved on May 4, 2005.
* Personal Watercraft Industry Association. . Retrieved on 9 August 2005.
* Bombardier Recreational Products. About Sea-Doo. Retrieved on 9 August 2005.
* MIT Inventor of the Week Archive:  Clayton Jacobsen II Retrieved on 15 March 2006.
Novaseminary (talk) 02:17, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Articles and wesbites cut from general references section 

message: "A personal water craft (PWC), also called water scooter, is a recreational watercraft that the rider rides or stands on, rather than inside of, as in a boat."
That "the rider rides" is totally vacuous.  Who wrote this?  Did they mean "the rider sits on or stands on" ? Suggest it be changed to  "that the rider stands or sits on"; but see the other problem (the problem with "on").
The two pictures to the right of this poorly worded sentence shows both PWC with gunwhales rising mid-calf on one and possibly up to or above the seat in the other.  The USCG has a definition, I don't know if there is a universal one possible.  There are a variety of boats that are < 13', where the driver is below gunwhales in a cockpit.  The distinction between riding "on" rather than "in" either needs clarification, or more likely needs to be removed and the definition of such craft changed.  Can we use the riders center of gravity being (generally) above the gunwhales?72.172.1.109 (talk) 21:43, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  First sentence is wrong. 

message: There's not a word about the need of eyewear for protection from water spray, wind and other particles that can damage the eyes.
Is it a non-issue?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.178.50.153 (talk) 09:00, 20 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eye damage 

message: Aren't these toys generally known as jet skis or water scooters? Isn't "personal water craft" something of an over-the-top title - rather like calling a car a "mechanical vehicular device"? I suggest changing the title to the more generally used "Jet ski".Royalcourtier (talk) 09:05, 9 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: And it's clear you don't know anything about PWCs. Or Jet Skis, about which we already have an article. --Coolcaesar (talk) 08:15, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: The final sentence in the first paragraph seems unsubstantiated.  This seems like a bold thing to say or an advertisement.  Citation?  I'm new to editing after a long hiatus, I hope I am doing this constructively and respectfully!! RoToR~enwiki (talk) 20:53, 9 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Biggest tricks in the world??

message: In the sports section it may be worth noting some other circuits that are also well known within the watercraft racing community. (I work in industry at RIVA Racing - We sponsor racers worldwide):
Hydrodrags - an event style where racers modify their watercraft in order to compete in a drag race style format, sometimes hitting top speeds of 112-114mph. http://www.surfandturfpromotions.com/hydro-drag-rule-book.html
Pro Watercross - Rival circuit to P1 AquaX with events around the USA http://www.prowatercross.com/
All racing circuits are also governed by a worldwide sanctioned association, the IJSBA. The IJSBA provides a standardized rule book for all racing events, and sanctions certain races throughout the year as events used to get into the IJSBA World Finals of watercraft racing, usually hosted as a week-long event for Stand Ups, Freestyle, and sit-down watercrafts in the first week of October in Lake Havasu, AZ. https://www.ijsba.com/ https://www.ijsba.com/world-finals/ http://watercraftjournal.com/gallery-35th-annual-quakysense-ijsba-world-finals/
First time working on editing in Wikipedia, so let me know what I can do to improve my formatting for discussion. Thank you for your consideration!
--Rheigel (talk) 17:14, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sports 

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