Talk:Makhnovshchina

message: For the record, here's a list of links that I perceive as problematic in MOS:SUBMARINE terms. I won't promise it's exhaustive, but I used a regular expression search to examine every one of the 251 piped links in the article, so it should be pretty close. I was intentionally and explicitly overzealous in compiling it; IOW, I call out plenty of links here that in any other circumstances I would most likely ignore or even be fine with. The list is, of course, subjective, debatable, and solely representative of my personal opinion; YMMV, void where prohibited, etc.
===Major Section===
All links are listed in the same order they appear in the article source.
====Lead====
* political and military conflict
* peace agreement
====History====
* agrarian reforms
* traditional communes (I'm somewhat on the fence about this one)
* local governments (ditto)
* antisemitism
*  declared the autonomy
* social democrats
* socialist revolutionaries
* May Day demonstration (Ironically, it's the inclusion of "demonstration" in the link text, here, that I would object to. The article is not about a demonstration.)
* workers' uprising
* armed anarchist detachments
* declared the autonomy of Ukraine
* civil war
* all power to the soviets
* capture
* captured
* peace treaty
* peace treaty
* defeated the occupation forces in battle
* invade Ukraine
* repression
* food requisitioning (as with the earlier links, I'm 50/50 on this; I'd need to check guidelines regarding translated terms)
* antisemitic pogroms
* Donbas
* food requisitioning (again)
* Political Agreement
* political repression
* institutions
* Russian Army
====Politics====
* free soviets (especially nonsensical as the actual article free soviets is linked here multiple times, via both its actual title and other names)
* political parties (iffy)
* declared
* war (easily fixed by just removing the pipe)
* freedom of the press (a problem mostly because every other time various civil rights concepts are mentioned in the article, even immediately adjacent this link, the link goes to a generic article on the right itself)
====Economy====
* Revolution (again, easily fixed by removing the pipe)
* around 200 members (← WINNER!! Ladies, gentlemen, and non-binary Wikipedians, feast your eyes on The Most Egregious Submarine Link In The Article™!)
* well-being for everybody
* their own money (not even 50/50, I'd lean towards letting this go)
* banks (This article's timeframe is 100 years ago; how is an article that only goes as far back as 1991 relevant at all?)
====See also====
* Shinmin Autonomous Zone (piped links do not belong in see also, given that the section is for referencing other relevant articles — why would it make sense to list those under any name other than the actual article title?)
FeRDNYC (talk) 06:10, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @FeRDNYC: Hey, thanks for compiling this, it's very thorough. I've quickly gone through the more egregious sections and dealt with those links. I still need to go through the history section but I'll leave that until after I've had some coffee. -- Grnrchst (talk) 08:49, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of problem (submarine) links in article 

message: All links are listed in the same order they appear in the article source.
====Lead====
* political and military conflict
* peace agreement
====History====
* agrarian reforms
* traditional communes (I'm somewhat on the fence about this one)
* local governments (ditto)
* antisemitism
*  declared the autonomy
* social democrats
* socialist revolutionaries
* May Day demonstration (Ironically, it's the inclusion of "demonstration" in the link text, here, that I would object to. The article is not about a demonstration.)
* workers' uprising
* armed anarchist detachments
* declared the autonomy of Ukraine
* civil war
* all power to the soviets
* capture
* captured
* peace treaty
* peace treaty
* defeated the occupation forces in battle
* invade Ukraine
* repression
* food requisitioning (as with the earlier links, I'm 50/50 on this; I'd need to check guidelines regarding translated terms)
* antisemitic pogroms
* Donbas
* food requisitioning (again)
* Political Agreement
* political repression
* institutions
* Russian Army
====Politics====
* free soviets (especially nonsensical as the actual article free soviets is linked here multiple times, via both its actual title and other names)
* political parties (iffy)
* declared
* war (easily fixed by just removing the pipe)
* freedom of the press (a problem mostly because every other time various civil rights concepts are mentioned in the article, even immediately adjacent this link, the link goes to a generic article on the right itself)
====Economy====
* Revolution (again, easily fixed by removing the pipe)
* around 200 members (← WINNER!! Ladies, gentlemen, and non-binary Wikipedians, feast your eyes on The Most Egregious Submarine Link In The Article™!)
* well-being for everybody
* their own money (not even 50/50, I'd lean towards letting this go)
* banks (This article's timeframe is 100 years ago; how is an article that only goes as far back as 1991 relevant at all?)
====See also====
* Shinmin Autonomous Zone (piped links do not belong in see also, given that the section is for referencing other relevant articles — why would it make sense to list those under any name other than the actual article title?)
FeRDNYC (talk) 06:10, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @FeRDNYC: Hey, thanks for compiling this, it's very thorough. I've quickly gone through the more egregious sections and dealt with those links. I still need to go through the history section but I'll leave that until after I've had some coffee. -- Grnrchst (talk) 08:49, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Major Section

message: * Shinmin Autonomous Zone (piped links do not belong in see also, given that the section is for referencing other relevant articles — why would it make sense to list those under any name other than the actual article title?)
FeRDNYC (talk) 06:10, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: @FeRDNYC: Hey, thanks for compiling this, it's very thorough. I've quickly gone through the more egregious sections and dealt with those links. I still need to go through the history section but I'll leave that until after I've had some coffee. -- Grnrchst (talk) 08:49, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: See also