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Talk:Sicilian Defence, Najdorf Variation

message: "If White had tried to play 8.Qd2, then Black could respond with 8...Ng4. " I don't have a book reference handy, but of the 2,400 games where white plays 8. Qd2, in none of them does black respond Ng4. Recent chess engines (Stockfish 11+) don't regard it as a strong move either. I propose removing this sentence as being misguided (possibly copy/pasted from a book?). Dhalamh (talk) 10:49, 28 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  English attack 8. Qd2 claim 

message: Check the databases, Tartakower, van den Bosch, Kupchik, Canal and Kevitz all played 5...a6 in the 1920s, while Kupchik and Noteboom were combining it with ...e5 in the 1930s. MaxBrowne2 (talk) 08:35, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opocensky didn't invent it 

message: I fed the Perenyi Attack (6.Be3 e6 7.g4!? e5 8.Nf5 g6 9.g5 gxf5) to Stockfish and it came up with 0.00 at about ply 35. I suspect this once ubiquitous line has been abandoned as a draw at top level, but of course this is original research. Can anyone find any good material on this line? MaxBrowne2 (talk) 06:39, 29 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Perenyi Attack 

message: I have some concerns about the name of this section. It's clear from looking at databases of master games that 6...Nbd7 is the other main move in response to 6.Bg5, and has seen a resurgence of popularity in the last decade. However, almost every other search result for the term "Verbeterde List" refers back to this page. There is some discussion here http://www.chesspub.com/cgi-bin/chess/YaBB.pl?num=1300141898 that casts further doubt on the legitimacy of the name. Unfortunately the given source for the name, the New In Chess Yearbooks, aren't easily available digitally. I did notice that the original author of this section, "Twaburov~enwiki", seems to have a similar username to the person defending the name Verbeterde List in the above forum link. Further Googling suggests that this person may be Twan Burg, who is cited as the author of the New In Chess piece coining the name. Taken together, it paints a potential picture of one person trying to push their name for a line that's not widely accepted elsewhere. Every other named variation in this article can be found in existing opening databases (such as the Lichess opening database or 365Chess.com database) except for this one. Perhaps for a name for a line to be worthy of inclusion here, there should be a citation from an independent source, such as an encyclopedia of chess openings, a corroboration of the name from an unrelated author in a book on the Najdorf, etc. Synonymousse (talk) 15:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Also noting the discussion here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Sicilian_Defence,_Najdorf_Variation,_Verbeterde_List, where Twaburov was advocating for preventing the deletion of the separate page which they created for the line. I think all of the arguments there for why that page shouldn't exist also apply to why the line shouldn't be named as such on the main page for the Najdorf. Synonymousse (talk) 16:40, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verbeterde List
Talk:Sicilian Defence, Scheveningen Variation

message: The second tag on how this article provides instructions, advice, and how-to-content is incorrect.  The facts of this variation is the variations that can come out of it, which _is_ the instructions, advice, and how-to-content.  While I can see why wikipedia should not give advice on how to sleep on the "sleep" article, this chess article is a completely different subject.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  Lyctc 17:46, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
Talk:Vienna Game, Würzburger Trap

message: Seems not much of a trap.
In the final position 12... Nc6 13 Kd2 Bxd3 14 Kxd3 Nxe5 and Black has 3 pawns for the piece. White can then gain the initiative 15 Kc2 and then Bb2 is on it's way but still required accurate play to shown there is an advantage. ChessCreator (talk) 01:14, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: 13 Bf4? O-O-O when 14 Kd2 is meet by Bxd3 15 Bxd3 Nb4 with advantage to Black. ChessCreator (talk) 01:43, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I assume you mean 15...Nxb3+ and 16...Nxa1.  But this doesn't work if White plays 14.Kc3, after which White has a clear advantage. --Zundark (talk) 13:11, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Poor example

message: There is so little here it may need to be merged into Vienna game.  Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 20:37, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the articles in :Category:chess traps are short.  This one isn't really much different than the others, so if this one is merged those probably should be merged too.  (Disclosure: I created many of of the other articles in that category, but not this one.) Quale (talk) 22:02, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK, let's keep it.  Bubba73 (You talkin' to me?), 23:51, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I too think this should be merged. Is there any significant mention of this trap in any reliable source besides the Oxford Companion? Is that by itself enough to justify an entire article on this trap, as opposed to a footnote in the Vienna Game article? Cobblet (talk) 07:00, 10 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge?
Talk:Sajid dynasty

message: *"The Sajid family came from Ushrusana in Central Asia and was probably of Soghdian origin." --"The Minor Dynasties of Northern Iran", W. Madelung, The Cambridge History of Iran, vol. 4, page 228.
*"The Sajids were a line of caliphal governors in north-western Persia, the family of a commander in the 'Abbasid service of Soghdian descent..." --The New Islamic Dynasties, C.E. Bosworth, page 147.
*"Sadjids, a line of military commanders who governed the northwestern provinces of the caliphate (Adharbaydjan, Arran and Armenia) in the later 3rd/9th and early 4th/10th centuries on behalf of the 'Abbasids..[..]..The family seems to have originated in Ushrusana [q.v.] on the middle Syr Darya in Transoxania, the region where the Afshins [q.v.] were hereditary princes until at least the end of the 3rd/9th century, and was probably of Soghdian stock; by the time the family came to prominence in Islamic history, however, it had become culturally Arabicised to a considerable extent." -- "Sadjids", C.E. Bosworth, Encyclopaedia of Islam, volume , page 745. --Kansas Bear (talk) 00:01, 16 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soghdian dynasty
Talk:Shotgun clause

message: The Link to the Fund does not belong to the body (c.f. WP:ELPOINTS). Mentioning the Fund here looks pretty much like marketing (c.f. WP:ELNO) to me.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vwm (talk • contribs) 13:38, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relevance of "The Shotgun Fund"
Category talk:Policies of the European Union

message: This is surely the policies of the European Commission ?   The European Union is an organisation with many facets and does not in itself have a comprehensive policy portfolio.--jrleighton 14:24, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Commission may draft and help to implement them but the policy applies to the whole of the EU. The other institutions take part and the members often have to implement the bulk. It's not like you have many conflicting policies, they usually override. -JLogan 15:44, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename article ?
Talk:Evie Greene

message: This page on her nephew seems to indicate that Evie had brothers Richard Abraham Greene, an actor at the Repertory Theatre in Plymouth, and Frank Greene and Norman Bentley Greene, all actors.  Norman Greene could be this chap. -- ALoan (Talk) 14:27, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Family ties

message: I added all I could find on other musicals she did in the early 1900s.  I bet she did a bunch more.  There may be more info on her at the G&S Archive, which is currently down.  It has bio pages on 3,000 people who sang with the DOC.  If I find anything when it comes back up, I'll add it to the article.  -- Ssilvers 20:54, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Now I think we've got about all the information available on Greene. -- Ssilvers 20:13, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: G&S connection/acting career

message: I have removed the section that says "this article is supported by the arts and entertainment group...". I see no evidence that it is. These things are just dogs pissing on lampposts to mark turf - they are on thousands of articles - more than the working group can possibly be helping with. If members of the group start contributing to the article, I will withdraw my objection. We have enough ownership issues.--Docg 09:30, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Project tag
Talk:Stade Français (association football)

message: where did you find that the football team of the Stade français was founded in 1888? The rugby team was, but the football has to wait 1900. Clio64B 08:45, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founded in 1888? rugby not football... 
Talk:Broadband networks

message: The current version of this article has a clear POV, starting with the first sentence --
:"Future telecommunication networks should have the following characteristics..." [my emphasis]
-- and needs to be rewritten in Wikipedia's standard NPOV style. -- The Anome 14:44, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

message: Four years later, and the mess is still here. It looks like some marketing propaganda for Broadband Integrated Services Digital Network which was pushed in the late 1980s. Clearly it needs to go, but not sure what to do instead. Maybe either redirect to Braodband, or make a dab page to BISDN, or Broadband Internet access which is probably what is meant today. Anyone have ideas? W Nowicki (talk) 20:45, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What to do? 
Talk:Krakow (disambiguation)

message: Can anyone tell me what counties in in the U.S. states of Illinois, Missouri, Nebraska, and Wisconsin have the towns of Krakow in them. I'm having trouble finding them. Dr. Dan 14:46, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Krakow, Wisconsin", is in zip code 54137. "Krakow, Missouri", is located in Washington County. "Krakow, Nebraska", is a former community in Nance County. "Krakow, Illinois", only seems to be a song title. Olessi 15:46, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Krakow, Nance County, Nebraska, USA, Latitude: 41.39472 : Longitude: -97.75222 --Lysytalk 17:18, 24 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Krakow, Shawano County, Wisconsin, USA; Latitude: 44.76167 : Longitude: -88.25139 --Lysytalk 17:21, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Shouldn't they be added to this disambig?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  17:37, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Where are they Located?
Talk:Dymshits–Kuznetsov hijacking affair

message: How did the police find out they were to hijack the plane?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.241.39.4 (talk) 02:04, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Old talk
Talk:Dalton, west North Yorkshire

message: The notability of this individual was discussed in the AfD on his page here one IP user (User:80.34.17.209) and several recently registeded users User:Helpbot, User:Assist-bot, User:Auto-revert have follow similar behaviour to User:DrParkes and his sockpuppets Inclusion of this individual and the link to www.freewebs.com, a site recommended not to be linked (& as of checking with 67 hits not a particularly notable site to make an exception for), are highly quesitonable. --Nate1481(talk/contribs) 16:42, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Barry Ley

message: Eh look what happens when you create a simple article in good faith about the village where you grew up. Haven't check back here for about a year and couldn't believe all the silly conflict that's happened here. --Achmelvic 22:44, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oh dear maybe I shouldn't have created this article! 

message: Hello, just a note that per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (settlements), if there is another Dalton in the county, the article only needs Richmondshire, not North Yorkshire. Simillarly, if this is the only Dalton in N. Yorks, Richmondshire should be dropped. Hope that helps, -- Jza84 · (talk) 00:20, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  North Yorks? 
Talk:Tiger Haynes

message: Please note: DOB disputed. All Movie Guide & IMDb report different years. Algabal 15:34, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked at the NY Times obit (not available in text version, but there is a scanned version on the NY Times Historical Database, available through libraries.)  It says he was 79, which matches with a 1914 birth date.--Larrybob 17:05, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Saturday Drama

message: This article should be titled The Saturday Play (see its BBC radio 4 homepage).  I looked at :Category:Protection templates and Wikipedia:Requested moves, and concluded that using  was the best approach I could find for getting an uncontroversial move request like this satisified.  So please move Saturday Play to The Saturday Play.  Thanks. 67.101.5.134 (talk) 03:50, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done —Ms2ger (talk) 08:18, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move request
Talk:Christopher Strachey

message: "optimum programming is to be avoided because it tends to become a time-wasting intellectual hobby of the programmers"
According to Lavington's book, 'The Pegasus Story', the quote comes from not from Strachy but Bernard Swann, who was Ferranti Sale Director at the time. -Axiomsofchoice 15:21, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Optimum Programming
Talk:Olympic Bridge

message: There's a video on youtube that reveals much about the tragic chain of events: The sculpture (Olympic flame) is placed successfully on the platform (although somewhat off-center). Then the helicopter is flying too low and/or too close to the sculpture. The blades of one of the rotors touch the sculpture. The helicopter coasts downward uncontrollably, the other rotor crashing into the platform. With no ascending drive left, the helicopter plummets onto the bridge's road lanes, exploding immediately. From this video, it would seem that the pilots' fate ends in the flames on the lanes. There are other videos, however, showing that after the explosion the helicopter (or at least major parts thereof) fell further down into the river. Apparently, that's where the pilots' remains were recovered from.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFr3aq36TAE
--217.226.83.130 (talk) 09:41, 8 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video and chain of fatal events 
Talk:Gardeners' Question Time

message: RE 1994 - Geoffrey Smith stayed on as did one or two other occasional guests  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.105.107.65 (talk) 20:52, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Geoffrey Smith

message: There seems to be an upheaval about whether the programme is 
-racist or,
-unintentionally uses common panels that can be related to racist stereotypes in the general public or,
-is a proper gardening discussion pointed at by self proclaimed purificators with a nonsense accusation or,
-is this just a desperate attempt to get more publicity by/for one of the involved parties?
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/gardening/11012398/Is-Gardeners-Question-Time-racist.html
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2716106/Gardeners-Question-Time-caught-race-row.html
http://www.thecollegefix.com/post/18713/
http://www.dailystormer.com/racist-gardeners-on-radio-4-send-out-coded-messages-to-turn-listeners-into-nazis/
It would be nice if someone had the time and expertise to deal with this question and perhaps not just mention the controversy arised but, even solve it.
94.69.235.17 (talk) 13:05, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Just more chest-beating and righteous indignation from the Daily Hate. The academic, Ben Pitcher, responded in The Guardian here, and said: "This week, a passing reference to Gardeners' Question Time in an interview about my new book on BBC Radio 4, landed me at the centre of controversy. According to the Daily Mail, which broke the story on this supposed "race row", I accused Gardeners' Question Time of "spreading covert racist stereotypes". The story was jumped upon and repeated as perfect silly season material: some lefty academic trying to close down a venerable national institution, wasting taxpayers’ money and preventing decent British people from calling a spade a spade out of obedience to a right-on, politically correct agenda. For the record, I don’t think that GQT is racist, and the story is based on a deliberate misconstrual of what I have said and written." Per his response, and per WP:RECENTISM I don't think it belongs in the article at the moment. Keri (talk) 13:47, 15 August 2014 (UTC)

text: Thank you for the additional information! (And thank you for the welcome, though at the moment I don't feel confident enough to sign up as an editor; as a non-native I mostly confine myself to adding a short comment on the talk-pages, rather than edit with the rare exception for occasional typos, or a missing link, or sg similar. I have a dynamic IP, so it might change daily, or so, but I received the message, and appreciated it.)
94.69.235.17 (talk) 20:48, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy - 2014 accusation of racism
Talk:Velma Middleton

message: Where is Velma buried?  Can't find her on Find-a-Grave.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.191.233.111 (talk) 00:28, 21 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Removed this sentence "and throughout her career performed acrobatic splits on stage" because it lacked a citation. Akijas1 (talk) 20:45, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: after further discussion a source has been identified for this sentence. Akijas1 (talk) 21:00, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation needed
Talk:Salford Junction

message: I am a photographer specialized in interactive panoramas, and love the UK canals.
During the 2014 BCN 24hr Marathon Challenge I have shot an interactive panorama of Salford Junction, seen from the towpath bridge over the Birmingham & Fazeley Canal.
The link is Interactive Panorama Salford Junction 
The panorama contains a lot of textual information that shows up when moving the mouse cursor over an area of interest. It works on almost any device from a smartphone upwards.
Of course I'm biased, but I believe it would add value to the article.
--HaraldJoergens (talk) 18:31, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal to add an external link
Talk:Sajjida Shah

message: This may be not be worth a mention in the article but her spectacular batting in this ODI match is certainly noteworthy. Tintin 02:33, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: HOW many wides?!! -- ALoan (Talk) 14:03, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Miss Sundries was in spectacular form in that series. Her lowest score in the seven Pakistani innings was 52, while the Pakistani women crossed 30 on just two occasions. Thanks to Miss S, Pakistan won the series 4-3. Tintin 14:09, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 73 extras? That's nothing! Check this out! Andrew nixon 14:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)

text: As far as the percentage of runs contributed by Ms.S, this is a nice one too. Tintin 15:08, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Shafi Hadi

message: According to Allmusic, Debut Rarities Vol. 3 (although released as a Mingus album) was performed by the Shafi Hadi Sextet. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 05:11, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Discography

message: The Biographical Encyclopedia of Jazz says that Hadi studied at "U. of Det." which I assume is short for "University of Detroit."  I am not sure if this means University of Detroit Mercy, as I am not sure whether that school has a music program. For a time, the Detroit Institute of Musical Arts awarded degrees through the University of Detroit, though it would be pure conjecture on my part to say that this is where Hadi studied.  For now I've simply linked to "University of Detroit Mercy" and labeled it "University of Detroit". -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 22:49, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education
Wikipedia talk:Requests for arbitration/NYScholar/Proposed decision

message: Regarding the Amnesty for all parties proposal by Fred: I stand by my edits and do not seek amnesty. If my edits are shown to have violated wikipedia rules I will accept any appropriate penalty. Notmyrealname 22:12, 27 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Amnesty

message: Regarding proposal 2, what exactly constitutes "edit warring" in this case? Is it raising the question of whether something meets wp guidelines? Is it challenging the reliability of a source? Asking for an rfc? Saying "don't make any edits here unless you have read all zillion pages of the talk page archives"? Even if most of the arguments for the other side are taken into consideration, there are still legitimate points that could be fairly discussed (e.g. has self-identification and relevancy been demonstrated to satisfy inclusion in categories). In practice the ruling leaves a lot of ambiguity. You might be better off just banning everyone involved here from further editing the Libby and Temple pages. Notmyrealname 21:38, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit warring

message: For findings of fact #s 2 and 3, you might want to amend #2 to read "and unreliable sources," and for #3 to read "unreliablity of certain sources, and lack of relevancy to Libby's public notability." Notmyrealname 16:26, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sourcing

message: It would also be helpful if you all would make some kind of statement regarding the categories issue. This is actually what half of the battle was about. I think WP:BLP#Categories is very clear. Please see my comments on the workshop page. Notmyrealname 16:26, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it is problematic, but some problem users might need to have it clarified. I'd like the arbitrators to please look at the ongoing discussion at Talk:Reena Combo with such a user as to why a specific ruling might be useful. Hornplease 23:28, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, for instance there has been an ongoing disagreement about what constitutes "public self-acknowledgment" regarding religion (e.g. is membership in a house of worship sufficient, or does it have to be something more along the lines of Alan Dershowitz or Jack Abramoff?). Does relevance to their notoriety mean that some editors think it is relevant, or does it need to be demonstrated (e.g. Libby dealt with US/Israel policy, although there is no evidence that it influenced his actions in any way). The arguments are in the Libby talk pages and pretty well represented on the workshop page. Notmyrealname 23:40, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And if membership in a congregation is 'ambiguous' as far as self-identification goes, does presence /participation at a religious ceremony similarly ambiguous? (Clearly not, it isnt sufficient.) Again, I refer the ArbCom to the above linked talkpage for an example of why further elucidation might be necessary for the tenacious -er- badgers among us.Hornplease 23:52, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Categories
Talk:Higger Tor

message: "It is believed to be an ancient fortification from the iron ages, possibly the 5th or 6th centuries BC." Does "it" refer to Higger Tor or Carl Wark? Theropod-X (talk) 22:54, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Some articles will probably always remain stubs or not much more than that, but that doesn't mean they don't have worth in their own right. And I think that if someone had the inclination,  research on the web and in old bookshops could reveal enough information about this particular pile of rocks, to enable considerable expansion of the article... PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 05:13, 16 April 2012 (UTC)

message: What a name! Which language does it come from? If you take Semitic, you get what you see: rock + band.  and then Carl Wark likewise is easy - place + long-drawn-out. 11:35, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology ?