Talk:South African Police Service

message: Good content, but needs references and images for B class--SGGH 15:12, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I must respectfully disagree that the content is good, please see below
There are several substantial problems with this article:
===SAP===
There should be a separate article on the South African Police during the apartheid years. Conflating SAP with SAPS either lessens the relevance of SAP, and/or creates the impression that they are contiguous entities which they cannot be given a) the perception in black South Africa of the SAP's illegitimacy and b) the integration of homeland law enforcement elements into the new SAPS
Several aspects are basically non-existent, especially:
*The vast atrocities committed during this period
*Structures like 
**BOSS
**Vlakplaas and General Lothar Neethling
**The Internal Stability Unit
*Mixed authority
**The role of the SADF as an informal law enforcement authority
**The collaboration between SAPS and the SADF in military and paramilitary operations
**The Dept of Bantu Affairs as a law enforcement agency
*The different incarnations of Ministries exclusively or jointly responsible for law enforcement between 48 and 94
===SAPS===
This article seems to have replaced the article on the South African Police Service which really should be reinstated as a separate article because it is one level of abstraction lower than the subject of "law enforcement"
The SAPS component of the article is incomplete (a small example is very little reference to its sub-structures)
*The content of this article does not correspond with its title
The track record of SAPS against the Crime Prevention Strategy of ?1994 and the tendency towards increases crime in newly democratic  
states, for instance see law enforcement literature on the ex-Soviet states
===Law enforcement before 1948===
*The period from the British occupation of the Cape through to Union in 1910 is missing (e.g. ZARPs of the Transvaal)
===Law enforcement during apartheid===
**Homeland police forces
**The role of street committees in extra-governmental law enforcement
**Law enforcement within guerilla structures (e.g. Quatro Camp)
===Law enforcement after apartheid===
Other components of law enforcement are not dealt with at all:
*Traffic authorities - not all of these are located in Metros, therefore
*Metro police forces
*Sheriffs offices
*the enforcement sections of environmental affairs and SA Revenue Services, the latter being distinct from 
*the Customs Service
*the JCPS cluster as a governance structure of the entire system
*The Military Police who have restricted jurisdiction but fulfil a law enforcement role
*The Railway Police (at least from a historical perspective)
*the various bodies within the Dept of Justice (and the controversy this has caused) that have law enforcement powers, e.g.
**Scorpions (NPA)
**Asset Forfeiture Unit (NPA)
**Special Investigation Unit
**Witness Protection Unit (NPA)
*The recent move to Community Policing
*The role of and collaboration with private security companies
Suidafrikaan 14:21, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: assessment

message: Other components of law enforcement are not dealt with at all:
*Traffic authorities - not all of these are located in Metros, therefore
*Metro police forces
*Sheriffs offices
*the enforcement sections of environmental affairs and SA Revenue Services, the latter being distinct from 
*the Customs Service
*the JCPS cluster as a governance structure of the entire system
*The Military Police who have restricted jurisdiction but fulfil a law enforcement role
*The Railway Police (at least from a historical perspective)
*the various bodies within the Dept of Justice (and the controversy this has caused) that have law enforcement powers, e.g.
**Scorpions (NPA)
**Asset Forfeiture Unit (NPA)
**Special Investigation Unit
**Witness Protection Unit (NPA)
*The recent move to Community Policing
*The role of and collaboration with private security companies
Suidafrikaan 14:21, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Law enforcement after apartheid

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :South African Police Service's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "mg.co.za":
From Andries Tatane: Disillusioned voters snub Ficksburg poll, KWANELE SOSIBO, Mail & Guardian, 20 May 2011]
From Islam in South Africa: http://www.mg.co.za/article/2009-07-09-muslim-women-need-protection-beyond-sharia-law
From Political repression in post-Apartheid South Africa: ICD: Rise in police abuse at service delivery protests
From Abahlali baseMjondolo: Landmark judgment for the poor, Niren Tolsi, Mail & Guardian, 18 October 2009]. Mg.co.za (18 October 2009). Retrieved on 4 December 2011.
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 05:24, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:South African Police Service]] 

message: Can someone please add a link to this page? Gbawden (talk) 10:04, 17 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[VIP Protection Unit (South Africa)]] 

message: As the South African Police Service have been re-militarized they should not be a "local civilian police" but rather a "gendarmerie".
What do you think?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.203.91.124 (talk) 14:54, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-militarization