Talk:Prostitution in Sweden

message: It seems like the article only criticizes their system on the matter. Does it have any defenders? If not why does it do this way?--T. Anthony (talk) 03:45, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: After looking through the sources I would urge 123username to search for more reliable/relevant sources if you wish this infomation to be kept in, the ones you are using are not up to scratch in my opinion, but tbh I the article looks quite balanced at the moment, good and bad things already said about the law. Bacchus87 (talk) 18:22, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only criticism? 

message: In Norway one is also planning to criminalize the buying of sex. There has even been some quite extreme proposals to punish Norwegians that buy sex abroad, thus interfering in other countries jurisdiction. I wonder, has Sweden introduced such laws?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.177.43.27 (talk) 19:54, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was in the media that the Sweidsh government wanted to do this, I do not know if it did. Lord Metroid (talk) 12:30, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a good question, and I believe some additional legislation to that effect has been introduced, though I don't know whether its been passed into law. In any event, Swedish sex tourism in the Baltic States is widespread, as much for economic reasons as for the difference in legal situations between the countries. This has been the subject of at least one Swedish documentary, BTW. Iamcuriousblue (talk) 23:56, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you live in Malmo you just go over the bridge to Denmark, further north you take a short ferry ride Mgoodyear (talk) 20:23, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can Swedes buy sex abroad? 

message: It should be mentioned in the article.--Section6 (talk) 10:50, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Situation before 1999? 

message: I have to say, a couple of editorials supporting the Swedish model by one minor social justice group and one very minor religious site are not exactly high-quality external links. They might stay for purposes of balance for the time being, but I recommend reviewing Wikipedia:External links to be clear on what Wikipedia's policies on this are. Ideally, external links should be quality sources which can be used to expand the article. An article by somebody like Gunilla Eckberg, who is a major player in this debate, or a notable non-Swede, like Melissa Farley or CATW, would be far more appropriate in terms of views of supporters to link to. Iamcuriousblue (talk) 06:40, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: "The debate on prostitution was heavily gendered. Men argued this was a social not criminal matter and that this intruded on self determination, while women argued that prostitution was incompatible with a social order embracing gender equity. All women saw prostitution as patriarchal oppression, and therefore not a free will choice, although there was less unanimity over what should be done."
How can these three sentences possibly be allowed to remain without supporting citations? This is an encyclopeadia, not a personal blog. SelectSplat (talk) 10:16, 26 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't assume everyone looks to see if you have commented on a daily basis. It is not a personal blog, it is based on years of studying official Swedish documents and interviewing Swedish sources, commentaries and articles. All sources are listed, you can't expect someone to put a citation on every line. If you read the sources you will find the disputed statement is correct. Mgoodyear (talk) 03:16, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "you can't expect someone to put a citation on every line." - WP:V yeah, you can. And once content has been challenged/removed WP:BURDEN says before it can be reinserted, it needs to be properly sourced. Active Banana   ( bananaphone 01:19, 15 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Here we go again. I CHALLENGE THE SECTION I REMOVED (TWICE), WITH EDITORIAL SUPPORT, ON GROUNDS OF VERIFIABILITY AND ORIGINAL RESEARCH. CITE IT OR GET RID OF IT. And, I might add, your actions in simply replacing the original remarks are indefensible. SelectSplat (talk) 01:51, 26 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  How can yopu say something is uncited when it is|? Do not delete authoritative sources because you disagree with them. If you have authorities that state a different opinion - please cite them. i will rephrase if that helps. --Michael Goodyear (talk) 12:57, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of citations 

message: The person who just stated in their edit summary that this was extremely biased does not seem to have been reading the newspapers. I put in about every positive article I could find - unfortunately there weren't many, if they can find more - be my guest. Most people seem to think the evaluation was a farce - but no public opinion polls have appeared. Bindel did not write in Sweden. Mgoodyear (talk) 23:37, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Recent tags suggest there are major problems with this article. Lets put this in perspective - till recently this article was abysmal. It is now comprehensive and contains 175 refeences and multiple external links - that's hardly unsourced. Just because people have widely differing POV on this subject does not mean it is factually inaccurate. If people have other facts not included, it is up to them to add them, not just say it is inaccurate. Please see the person who tagged the article's own talk page for their history on Wikipedia which seems devoted to prostitution. Mgoodyear (talk) 19:08, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: There have been some widespread deletions from this article. This is a fairly long and carefully researched article - if you find errors of fact, say so. You can't go around deleting text without discussing it here. I am reverting the multiple changes by several people - notably 207.250.63.33. Please discuss changes here. --Michael Goodyear (talk) 18:00, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Other deletions were marked "uncited" - they weren't - it is just that not every sentence had a ref tag which starts to get very ungainly. The debates around the Kvinnofrid law have been extensivley documented, especially by Yvonne Svanstrom, a Swedish history professor. Please check sources before deleting materials, or discuss here. The suggestion that saying it is Taboo is contradicted by citing criticism is an interesting one which I have qualified - it is taboo, and you need a lot of courage to oppose it in public or within your political party. Those voices raised, though vocal remain a small minority and attract much hostility.  Just read the debates in swedish media.  --Michael Goodyear (talk) 18:40, 7 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Deletions 

message: Prostitution in Swedish 
Prostitution is also called "prostitution" in Swedish, however sex work is called sexarbete, and a sex worker is sexarbetare. Sexual services are sexuella tjänster, purchasing sex is sexköp, and the law banning the purchase of sex is referred to as Sexköpslagen.
Amongst third party activities, pandering or procuring is koppleri. A pimp is a hallick or sutenör, although pimp is now used in Swedish slang. A brothel is a bordell, and a madam is bordellmamma.
: This was deleted recently - As I have explained elsewhere - many of the source documents referred to are in the original language, and a lexicon is an important tool in searching the literature for non native speakers. I have yet to see a rational explanation for removal, other than sourcing.--Michael Goodyear (talk) 16:59, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mothballing deleted section 

message: I keep on reading about "the nordic model" of prostitution, which is apparently what Sweden is, or is defined by Sweden, or something like that.  
I think it means "Illegal to Buy Services".  But the article Nordic_model is completely unrelated.  Somebody needs to make an article by that name to explain the concept.
OsamaBinLogin (talk) 05:37, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The Nordic Model" 

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message: On this The International Day To End Violence Against Sex Workers, we should point out that the Swedish moderl gives police leverage to rape and rob Prostitutes:
Poile:
"Nice clients you have here.  It would be a shame if some cop would arrest them all."
Prostitute:
"I shall give you daily freebies and an 100 Euros."
The real way to help prostitutes is decriminalization like in New Zealand.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:643:C000:1E2A:CDD8:CAD:2B82:57AE (talk) 11:33, 17 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  We should mention that the Swedish Model makes the lives of prostitutes more dangerous and that the real reform is decriminalization.