Talk:List of Latino superheroes

message: 71.103.32.216 Please try and limit the amount of Redlinks on this page. Try to create links for pages that have a chance of being built, and leave the others blank. --Basique 14:29, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
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message: Please include a brief description with your entries, at least include the characters secret identity. --Basique 14:32, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have started to put the list into a table format to help with this, the link problem and so on. If others will help reformat this entry and research the missing info, I think this could be a much easier and informative page. 68.55.6.178 (talk) 23:50, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Brief Description

message: Several of the characters listed in this page are not superheroes, either because they have no powers, no costumes or simply because they're villains instead! Since the title of this article is "List of Hispanic Superheroes" and not "List of Hispanic Comic Book Characters" I vote those be removed. -Wilfredo Martinez 23:48, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. However, there are some cross-over oddities, which I found when putting the list into a table. In the DC Comics list there are at least two villains who have rested in the anti-hero or reluctant hero spot and two who were villains, but would rather just stay in their home unmolested by superheroes because they are the law there. But the table makes it easier to locate references and their heroic status. 68.55.6.178 (talk) 23:48, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Heroes?

message: Are not "hispanics" 201.23.32.2 (talk) 21:53, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct that Brazilians are not hispanics, but they are Latino or Latin American. Kman543210 (talk) 10:12, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is fair to say that Latin American includes the people originating from almost all the countries south of the United States of America's southern border plus Spain and Poutugal. As an Italian American (the origin of Latins), I understand my ethnic goup doesn't qualify as Latin American. 68.55.6.178 (talk) 23:42, 18 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brazilians 

message: I suggest that the entries should have a standardized format (maybe even put into a table or chart form). Maybe using these catagories: Real Name, Alias/Identity, Hero/Anti-Hero/Villian, Powers, Nationality/Ethnicity, Date and Title of 1st Appearance, Issue of Referance of Ethic Status. This way there can be a clearer view of the importance.  68.55.6.178 (talk) 20:22, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Format for List Entries 

message: I think that the G. I. Joes should be seperated out of the main Marvel Universe. I'm not certain they qualify as being a part of the 616 Universe or a different one, but they feel like a seperate catagory within the Marvel imprint. 68.55.6.178 (talk) 00:02, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marvel Universe: G. I. Joes 

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message: My demand is as follows:
Spaniards do not identify with the "latino" or "hispanic" term, since both of them have a strong, not just ethnical, but also racial association. Spaniards are plain caucasian europeans, just like French, Italian, Norwegian or Polish people.
Including Spanish characters also contradicts what's stated in the header of this page, which reads as I quote: "This page focuses exclusively on documenting the history of the "Latino" superheroes whether they are of Mestizo, Mulatto, Chicano, MesoAmerican, Zambo, Indigenous, Caribbean, African, Asian descent, or some mix of these ethnicities". Since caucasians are not included in this list, no Spaniard should be part of this page.
Again, this may lead to confusion, since in Spain, latino and hispano are terms used to depict latin-americans ("latino" comes from "latinoamericano" and "hispano" from "hispanoamericano"), and, just like in the US, people who are defined as any of both terms are intrinsically associated with particular racial and ethnical (sometimes also cultural) traits which typically are the ones listed in the quote above, mostly native Americans, whether if mixed or not.
To sum up: Spaniards do not classify as hispanics or latinos, as these terms have evolved in the recent times to have a different meaning from what they were supposed to have back in their creation.
If we followed the original description of the term "latino", Italian, French, Belgian, Swiss and Canadian (perhaps even Dutch) characters should also be added, as they speak languages of latin origin.
For further information should be stated that, within Spain, many non-latin and non-hispanic, yet native, background can be found, some of them related to celtic, greek, germanic/visigoth, arabic and slavic culture; so using the latin branch to sum them all up is as well very clumsy. Also, Spain counts with local and official languages, as well as ethnicities, which are not Spanish or derived from Spanish, therefore their connection with Latin America is null.
Again, I believe that what can be seen in this page is fruit of a mistake typically made in the United States of America, assuming that there is a big and uniform "Spanish culture" that inhabits the Iberian peninsula and big part of the Americas, which is a fallacy that can be proven to be untrue after very little research. These phenomena can be explained with the campaign created by the dictatorship of Spanish Ultranationalist Francisco Franco and minister Manuel Fraga back in the 40s-50s, who tried to fabric a fictitious unitary Spanish identity based in Castilian and Andalusian culture, ignoring and banning any other else (Catalan, Galician, Canarian, Basque...), that was exported to the rest of the world via the touristic campaign "Spain is different". This was the origin of the unitary and homogeneous vision of spanishness that is still nowadays portrayed and widely assumed in the rest of the world, as well as by many Spanish nationalists, and which I believe has led to the incongruity that I hereby am denouncing.
 
Therefore, I demand that, for the sake of concordance, either "caucasian" should be added to the list of races, or else any Spaniard superhero ought be deleted.
Greetings and thanks for reading.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Elpaeyo (talk • contribs) 13:21, 17 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why include superheroes from Spain? 

message: The title needs to be edited to include the Latina & Latinx superheroes. This stinks of patriarchy & sexism.
2601:6C4:4001:D51C:5823:CA88:2AD1:E6C5 (talk) 10:19, 26 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latina and Latinx 

message: I made several changes which I will explain below. Please tell me what you think.
The previous heading was vague as to what the category Latino actually referred to, something which has been noted above.  I added a proper definition of the term. It is appropriate to use refer to Spanish descended Latin Americans as Latino. Latino is an ethnic group, not a racial classification, we could spend several paragraphs listing all the various sub-ethnic groups which compose it. I eliminated this portion listing different constituent racial and cultural groups as it seemed rather purposeless and was not a subject directly related to the article.
I moved portions of the intro to the "see also" section. While I agree that we should link to articles about Filipino and Native comic characters, this information hardly belongs in the intro.
Finally, Latinx is essentially an astroturfed Anglo term which is used by few Latinos in the U.S.A and next to no one in Latin America. I'm fine with making the heading gender neutral by mentioning both Latinos and Latinas, but I would prefer if terms like Latin, or Latin American were used elsewhere as they more closely mirror the Spanish language.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by HaileJones (talk • contribs) 22:33, 6 October 2020 (UTC)
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