Talk:Jupiter in fiction

message: Consider moving the items referencing only the moons of Jupiter to the article "Jupiter's moons in fiction" .. Muad 13:09, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moons 

message: The Presidents of the United States of America have a song about Jupiter which is called, appropriately, 'Jupiter'. I'm not sure where to insert a reference to this, though, as there's no obvious section it would fit into. Any thoughts? Wibbble 19:11, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Music? 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Call_Me_Joe
Short story by Poul Anderson.
I wonder if the Avatar screenplay writers knew about this one. 98.30.29.58 (talk) 21:04, 3 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Call Me Joe 

message: Should this article specify that this is not about Jupiter, but rather about Jupiter? Xx78900 (talk) 20:01, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The first sentence of the WP:LEAD is   a WP:Short description which also clarifies that it's about the planet rather than the Roman deity. TompaDompa (talk) 20:19, 16 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarity about planet 

message: Modern section should be expanded a lot I think e.g. works by non-western writers such as The Wandering Earth  Chidgk1 (talk) 06:39, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The sources I've found on the topic of Jupiter in fiction do not go into all that much detail about modern depictions of Jupiter itself (as opposed to its moons), let alone by non-Western writers. I have added a mention of Sayonara Jupiter, at least. There are some other works by e.g. Yukinobu Hoshino and Yoshiki Tanaka that might be worth including, but we need proper secondary/tertiary sources to make sure we're not unduly overemphasizing WP:MINORASPECTS of the topic. TompaDompa (talk) 16:08, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah so you have maybe already mined the other language versions of this article for ideas. Article is still fairly short for a "good article" so I think you don't need to worry about expanding - I guess good article reviewer might be more likely to suggest trimming some of the redlinked sentences rather than any mention of books/films which already have their own articles. Chidgk1 (talk) 19:23, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  Whether the works have Wikipedia articles or not is really orthogonal to the question of accurately reflecting what the sources on the overarching topic of Jupiter in fiction say. Per WP:PROPORTION:  There is perhaps an argument that WP:PROPORTION needs to be balanced with WP:Systemic bias and that a lower standard of sourcing should therefore be accepted for non-Western works, but I don't think deliberately deviating from the text of WP:NPOV is the best idea while waiting for the WP:Good article nomination to be reviewed. TompaDompa (talk) 19:40, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Everything on Jupiter has undue weight - goodnight and good luck  Chidgk1 (talk) 20:11, 7 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion for expansion 

message: It is mentioned in Red Dwarf that Rimmer went to school at Io Polytechnic, but I can't find a proper reference. Grassynoel (talk) 03:15, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Io as homeworld of Arnold Judas Rimmer 

message: I think the Strugatsky brothers' story "The Way to Amalthea" is somewhat inaccurately described in the current phrasing of this article.  The story does not depict an expedition into Jupiter's atmosphere.  The ship Tahmasp is accidentally stranded in the atmosphere, and the scientists onboard make observations while the captain, navigator and engineer struggle to save them all from certain death.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:600:8380:80:8111:F691:BC0F:C616 (talk) 04:22, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: New sections go on the bottom of the page, so I moved this. I changed the phrasing from "expeditions" to "descents", the phrasing the sources use. TompaDompa (talk) 04:29, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Way to Amalthea 

message: I'm just posting a notification that Jupiter's moons in fiction was redirected to this article without discussion or an attempt at a merge. The original content is available here. Praemonitus (talk) 16:50, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, I redirected that TV Tropes-style list which did not have any proper sourcing and instead wrote a proper section here about how Jupiter's moons have been depicted in fiction as a subtopic of how the planet has—which is the approach taken by high-quality sources on the subject including The Encyclopedia of Science Fiction, The Greenwood Encyclopedia of Science Fiction and Fantasy, and Science Fact and Science Fiction: An Encyclopedia—rather than either (A) cleaning it up (in other words rewriting it from scratch, as that would have been necessary) and then merging or (B) merging and then cleaning it up. It's not like there was any content there that could have been merged with the sourcing it had. There is a reason the version you linked to had orange banners at the top and this article is rated as a WP:Good article. 21:30, 26 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jupiter's moons in fiction