Talk:Tiger Force

message: I found that page : http://www.tigerforcerecon.com/. 
It seems that "Tiger Force" still exists since Vietnam ? 81.67.39.165 18:58, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too restrictive page ? 

message: I found this page http://www.answers.com/topic/tiger-force-1 that contains the EXACT same wording and pictures as this article. Neither article cites the other one.
:That's because Answer.com copies everything from Wikipedia.--James Bond 07:59, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation not given? 

message: As commisioned officers shouldn't LTs be listed before SGTs as LTs out rank SGTsBushido Brown 06:11, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rank 

message: The links to William Carpenter and Charles B. Fulton points to non-related persons. Charles B. Fulton (the one linked to) would have been a very old soldier, as he would have been close to 60 years old at that point in time. Why have all the names linked, when there are no information about the individual members except for two of them? Make the names links when there is information about them. 70.244.173.235 05:14, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links (names of unit members) 

message: If one was to view your life and worth from a single snapshot of your worst and most regretable moment rather than a video of your entire life experience, what would you say?
I served as CO and XO of the Tiger Force from June 66 to Feb.67, and to the day I die will cherish the memories of the honorable men with whom I served, the victories God gave us over our ruthless enemy, AND the manner in which we dealt with the innocent South Vietnamese. 
Whatever happened later in 1967 will surely never be known. Somewhere between what the novelists described and outraged vets profess lies the truth. Wherever it falls, it is not good and a blemish on the record of the Tiger Force established by the blood, sweat, toil and tears of many good and decent men.
I say what you would say. Judge the Tiger Force from its inception in 1965 through this very moment in Iraq, and pay some deserved respect to those who had nothing to do with its only blemish. We, even more than you, find whatever happened reprehensible.  
John Carey Phuhu1 03:02, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A snapshot 

message: The article claims that 
They are the only platoon sized element (approximately 30 men, below the "Company" in organizational standing), who's members have been awarded two Medals Of Honor (Lt. James Gardner, and SSG John Gertsch)
.
It sounds nice, ignoring the grammatical error, BUT Young's Scouts, 1st North Dakota Volunteer Regiment, Philippine-American war had no less than thirteen MOH's awarded between 16 and 19 May 1899. Among those were Captain William E. Birkhimer (who later became a Brigadier) and Corporal Frank L. Anders . I am working on articles for ALL of these winners. Cheers V. Joe 19:03, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since people are often hesitant to WP:Be Bold when removing information from a lengthy article, even when it's demonstrably false, I've gone ahead and done it for you.  Thanks for alerting us! Sherurcij (Speaker for the Dead)  19:34, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Uh...you're forgetting SOG, which was never very large and was certainly more decorated. And that only counts the medals that WERE awarded.Intothatdarkness (talk) 17:50, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Factual Error

message: Hankpac,
I am removing your comments from my user page, and will reproduce it below:
I made a major contribution to the Tiger Force article, and my entire work was replaced with the garbage that now appears. Don't accuse me of vandalism, when the two dirt bags who posted their advertisement for their book of trash have complete control of the page, and do whatever they want. Weiss and Salah are marketers of the worst type of journalism, one that makes money out of other people's misery. The current entry is nothing more than an ad for their book, which book is failing to find an audience. Don't hold yourseves up as fair and neutral. The post as it lies (an appropriate word) focuses only on the short period of 1967, but makes the entire team and it's entire history seem to be involved in that single period. gone are the entire years of honor and courage, and selfless sacrifice that typifies Tiger Force's many ears in the jungles of Viet Nam. gone are the reports of savage torture perpetrated by NVA soldiers on Tiger Force prisioners, tortured until death, and left horribly chopped up for other Tigers to find them. Gone are the entries of the two men who earned Medals of Honor, the only platoon sized element to recieve such awards. Gone also are references to the high ranking achievments of leaders who became Generals. Weiss and Salah only want to destroy the honorable history of Tiger force, and by focussing on only those few months have effectively hatched the honorble history of some of the finest men in the entire Armed Forces of the United States. Restore my original work.
First, as far as I can tell, you have not cited sources for any of the claims you have made that have been subsequently removed. The Wikipedia:Verifiability policy requires that "Material that is challenged or likely to be challenged needs a reliable source, which should be cited in the article," and that "The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material."
Second, if you believe that one or more aspects of the Tiger Force article violates the Wikipedia:Neutral point of view policy or any other Wikipedia policy, then please explain how the policy is being violated, and how you recommend we correct that violation.
Third, I am sympathetic to your concern that the article only focuses on the period of time of the alleged war crimes, and does not give much coverage to other periods. Perhaps we can try one of the following approaches to help resolve this problem:
* We can add more information about Tiger Force from other periods. The problem with this approach is that I am not aware of any sources that provide a significant amount of information about Tiger Force which meet the Wikipedia:Reliable sources policy, other than the sources that focus on the alleged war crimes. If you can find such a source, we can certainly consider adding information from that source to the article.
* We can rename the Tiger Force article with a name such as "Tiger Force war crimes," "Tiger Force alleged war crimes," or "Investigations of Tiger Force war crimes." This will demonstrate that the article is an article about the alleged war crimes committed by some Tiger Force members for a period of time, and not about Tiger Force in general.
I am also open to any other recommendations you or any other editors have on how to resolve this problem.
AviN1 03:17, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism, reliable sources, and the focus on war crimes 

message: It is not appropriate to include photos of My Lai in this article about Tiger Force.  Tiger Force was not responsible for, nor did it have any role in, My Lai.  Including such images - and labeling them as "Tiger Force" is blatantly "bad data".  Rklawton (talk) 18:15, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: My Lai photos

message: This guy was my boss, and claimed to be tiger force. He has posted on various Tiger Force sites and whatnot, such as this one: http://327infantry.com/first/jim_raysor , but if someone could find out for sure if he was actually in Tiger Force, it would be helpful.209.159.249.72 (talk) 07:03, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: FWIW, some googling turned up , . Wtmitchell  (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 07:44, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jim Raysor 

message: The article mentions some entity called a "corporal officer".
It's not clear what rank or function this is supposed to be.
There is no such entity in the Army (that I've ever heard of).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.106.217.125 (talk) 00:30, 15 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "corporal officer" 

message: A german user has made a svg-file of the Tiger Force patch. Feel free to use it. Atomiccocktail (talk) 19:07, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Patch 

message: "The documents included sworn statements from many Tiger Force veterans", but everything is still "allegedly".
Let's compare it to Stephen Paddock, the article of the Las Vegas shooter. Instances of "allegedly" used: None.
Yeah, totally non-partisan, this article. ---- 79.223.3.206 (talk) 16:35, 22 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "allegedly" 

message: notable as head of unit, not individually  DGG ( talk ) 07:03, 11 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Klbrain (talk) 09:16, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge of [[James Hawkins (United States Army officer)]] into [[Tiger Force]] 

message: Why is the information about tiger force so short in comparison to Wikipedia sites in different languages. something to hide? 2A02:8388:2841:4A00:387A:8C5A:DE39:AC48 (talk) 19:48, 10 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Short information