Talk:Halloween/Archive 9

message: I would suggest the following sentence should be removed:
:"Other Christians get very emotional about Halloween, rejecting the holiday because they believe it trivializes the occult and what they perceive as evil."
My objections are that firstly it lacks a clear reference, multiple sources are indicated, however it would appear the inference that Christians are getting emotional isn't cited. Secondly, the sentence is too vague, 'Christians' also refers to Eastern Christianity for example. Lastly there is an implication that Christians are overly emotional, this represents a derogatory opinion, which isn't appropriate. Addhoc 13:36, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sentence changed. --Kathryn NicDhàna 21:12, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Emotional' sentence 

message: Is Halloween "most popular in Ireland". I thought that it was equally popular across Ireland, Scotland and the United States? Benson85 19:06, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ireland 

message: This paragraph is obviously written by a 15 year old named Tomás vandalizing this article:
In the original festival puppet Mayer’s were burnt whilst golden statues of Tomás were worshiped. The festival was centred around the prophecy that a great leader Tomás would arise in the year 1991. He would be marked by his intelligence. He was said to drive out the Israelites.
Good catch. I've hidden the paragraph from view. If someone else feels that it should be removed from the article altogether, they are free to do so. Aecis Dancing to electro-pop like a robot from 1984. 00:21, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obvious vandalism 

message: In Sweden Halloween is celebrated the same day the Church of Sweden celebrates All saints day, the first saturday in November. This is due to a misunderstanding when the retail business organizations introduced Halloween in the mid-1990's. Christians and christian organizations do not like this connection and very few Swedes are aware that Halloween in the English-speaking countries is a non-Christian holiday celebrated October 31. /213.226.120.130 17:02, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it is a costume festival with candy tied to American culture, at least for the kids. For teens and young adults it's more of a drinking festival with lots of liquor, tied to American culture. /213.226.72.40 22:36, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Halloween in Sweden 

message: Hello; I would like to add the Turkish language edition of this page :tr ; the name of the link would be "tr:Cadılar Bayramı" please .
Thanks, --Nerval 21:37, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkish Language ext. 

message: I removed the following unsourced and inaccurate statement from this section:
 The pagans in Ireland in the year 835 came up with the name halloween, because they didn't 
 believe in Christ our Lord they stole the word Hallowed from "Hallowed be thy name" from 
 the Catholic's and made up a story that apparently the dead rise from the grave and they 
 called it Halloween which is a day before All Saint's Day.
The spurious date is a clever attempt to seem authoritative, but the statement is false on its face.  Aside from the point that Jesus called "Christ" isn't everyone's Lord, and the reference is therefore inappropriate for an NPOV encyclopedia, no one "stole" the word "hallowed" from anywhere.  "Hallowe'en" is a contraction of "all hallows even," i.e. the evening before All Hallows Day.  The notion that the dead return on that evening is no more or less reasonable than any other religious myth, and calling it a "made up" "story" is highly POV.
As always, if the claim can be documented, then by all means put it back in...
Septegram 14:03, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hallowe'en Around The World