Talk:Viking (rocket)

message: Should probably be merged with Viking rocket, if someone who knows more about it can verify that that article deals with same subject.  Gene Nygaard 16:02, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is perfectly possible that it was Viking 11 (One One) as opposed to Viking II (i i). I will try and go back to the source material, but it is perfectly possible that the editor made a mistake. But... it certainly didn't come off a webpage. It came out of an old book! --MacRusgail 10:33, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Stuff moved from [[Talk:Viking 11 (rocket)]]

message: Based on material on Rosen's book, and Willy Ley's 1951 "Rockets, Missiles, and Space Travel", both now referenced, I have filled in some more details.  Rosen gives detailed tables of the specifications and performance for each flight, 1 through 11 (Viking 12 was really part of Project Vanguard, being flown as a test article for that project, after the Rosen's book was completed).  Because he gives complete information on every flight, I propose to incorporate them all into one section on flights, including Viking 11 and 12.  This, when complete, will more or less completely absorb the old Viking 11 article into this one.  I have also folded the previous "Improvements" section into one called "Design features", with some of Ley's and Rosen's material. Wwheaton (talk) 08:41, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Additions and rearrangements

message: Based on this photo and its explanatory text (including the date) I think it is likely the NRL source is in error when it claims a Viking took a similar photo on that same date. I propose entirely removing this claim from the "achievements" section. (sdsds - talk) 05:25, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Rosen's book, The Viking Rocket Story  (1955) shows three plates between pages 178 & 179, all labeled "Official US Navy Photo".  The date in the text however for the Viking 11 flight is given in the text as 24 May, 1954, and I believe the date given in ref 6 (as of this date) must be incorrect, as I stated in the last note (6).  All three are rendered in black and white.  The first is almost straight down, and is stated in the caption to be "the highest picture of the earth", at 158 mi.  The second is described in the caption as a composite of two photographs, looking generally SE, taken at altitudes of 153 and 138 miles.  It is accompanied by a full-page map showing the field of view, which covers most of central Mexico.  The third plate, taken at 86 miles, is looking west; the detached nose cone can be seen floating at a distance of about 640 feet.  No hurricane is in evidence in second picture, which is the only one shown in the book that shows the Gulf of Mexico.  The May date would also be wrong for the hurricane season, but NOAA must know the date of the hurricane.  My guess is the hurricane photo was taken, probably from an Aerobee in color, in October 1954, and has been mis-attributed to Viking 11's flight in May.  A quick look at the text (Viking 11 is described only briefly in the last chapter, "Postlude", of the book) shows no mention of color photography, and the captions have none. So I think the achievement is real, but described incorrectly.  Rosen's "Postlude" chapter tabulates the achievements of the program through Viking 11, that should probably go into our article. Wwheaton (talk) 06:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)

text: I have now revised the "Achievements" section, removing the erroneous material. Wwheaton (talk) 17:24, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo of hurricane - error contained in a usually reliable source 

message: It might be more accurate to describe the Viking as derived from the Wasserfall missile, rather than the V-2.  It's engine, built by Reaction Motors, was pretty much identical to the Wasserfall engine.  DonPMitchell (talk) 19:47, 19 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wasserfall 

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message: I've pretty much rewritten the whole thing, largely based on Rosen's book. It's not perfect, but it's a lot more complete. --Neopeius (talk) 02:28, 6 April 2021 (UTC)
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