Talk:Dardanelles

message: Ancient Greeks suggested an mythological etymology relative with Helle )(or preciously, Hellê), sister of Phrixus.
But, I suppose that the word "Helles-pontus" is derivated by the name of Ilians (or else, the known Trojans), the people of Ilion or Troy which was a strong naval power in 2nd millennium B.C.
The word "pontus" means "sea", in ancient Greek [compare pond = small lake, in English].
So, Hellespont means "the sea of Ilians".
-IonnKorr 20:36, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology of Hellespont 

message: I think the latter is more common, especially in academic circles. Should there be a section on the (non-)use of the article the? I note that this article switches from one usage to the other. Interlingua 15:26, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hellespont or The Hellespont

message: I'm removing the two question marks in this sentence.  "Turkey declared war on Germany in February 1945(??), but it did not employ any offensive forces in that war."  
It should have been citation needed if anything, not question marks. I don't see a citation as necessary, but if someone would like to add a citation of the symbolic declaration of war on February 23, 1945, it couldn't hurt either.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by KVND (talk • contribs) 03:07, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ?? after mention of Turkey in WW2 

message: what is the sentence "(the Entente lost the battle on March 18, 1915)" supposed to mean? It appears to be talking about Winston Churchill, but doesn't make sense.
* I edited that sentence for clarity Plainswalker75 09:17, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: lost?

message: There is no reason to mention, historically or otherwise, the dimentions of the strait in feet. Policy states that unless there are such grounds to note it, it should be left out.
I'm not going to edit it out, since I haven't had anything to do with this page up untill now, but some one should.
Madskile 22:50, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  SI units 

message: Dardanelles should redirect here and the title should be "Çanakkale Boğazı". Because strait has been called "Çanakkale Boğazı" for 700 years.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.174.55.57 (talk) 21:59, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  title 

message: Maximum depth is 82 m = 300 ft ?!?
Maybe 91 m = 300 ft or 82 m = 269 ft. Zaldo --80.104.12.192 (talk) 21:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Depth

message: The article states "... a massive invasion force of British, Indian, Australian, and New Zealander troops...". I believe it should say "New Zealand".
The demonym for New Zealand (i.e. a person from New Zealand) is New Zealander (or Kiwi, informally). The attributive adjective for New Zealand (i.e. describing New Zealand; troops in this case) is New Zealand (or Kiwi, informally!). Thus "the New Zealand kiwi is a flightless bird", or "New Zealand troops".
The confusion in the article probably stems from the fact that the demonyms and attributive adjectives for most countries (including Britain, India, and Australia), are the same word, but for New Zealand they are not. Cwelgo (talk) 12:35, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: . I agree.  --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 10:30, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Zealand vs. New Zealander 

message: From what I understand in the merge section above, the Dardanelles has been known under different names for centuries. What I want to know is when its modern name became officially recognized. Alphapeta (talk) 02:19, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question. Maybe someone at the humanities reference desk can help. If you find out, come back and add it to Dardanelles#Nomenclature.  --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 14:24, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dardanelles official name 

message: The following sentence:
Herodotus tells us that c. 482 BC Xerxes I (the son of Darius) had two bridges built across the width of the Hellespont at Abydos in order that his huge army, ostensibly made of 5 million men (most historians[who?] put the actual number of this army at closer to 250,000 men, though a second school of thought lends the accounts of Herodotus more credence, bringing the number closer to 400,000)[citation needed], could cross from Persia into Greece. 
The whole part about the size of his army detracts from the flow of the text.  I had to stop and re-read it to understand it.  I don't want to change it myself, but may I suggest:
Herodotus tells us that c. 482 BC Xerxes I (the son of Darius) had two bridges built across the width of the Hellespont at Abydos in order that his huge army could cross from Persia into Greece. Van Vidrine (talk) 14:01, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree! --Hroðulf (or Hrothulf) (Talk) 20:31, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: A week has gone by with no objection.  Made the change. Van Vidrine (talk) 16:47, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing run-on sentence 

message: How is it possible for "a narrow strait" to have an economy? I'm going to be WP:BOLD and remove this section:
* I could not find anything in a Google journal search
* The referenced document  refers to a lead mine, operating in the early 1900s in Lapsaki and Kastamuni, which is in Turkey near the straights, but not the stratights themselves. I am going to remove this section. JoeSperrazza (talk) 12:56, 3 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Dardanelles#Economy]] 

message: I recently added a citation for the Allied casualties of the Dardanelles campaign, however I can't seem to get quite the right look in the references section as the rest of it.  It is complete and I have added an inline reference to the information in question in the article.  As my wikipedia markdown skills are limited, I am hoping someone else could fix it.  Thank you.
Dsobol0513 (talk) 17:39, 6 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations

message: The University of Washington Fight Song "Bow Down to Washington" makes reference to the Dardanelles. 199.191.127.241 (talk) 08:14, 2 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  University of Washington Fight Song