Talk:Meena Kumari

message: The latest change to this page contains numerous factual errors. Examples include:
*"born Mahjabeen Begum" - actually born Mahjabeen Bano http://www.filmibeat.com/bollywood/features/2014/remebering-meena-kumari-bollywood-tragedy-queen-155726.html
*"Meena Kumari was the third daughter of Ali Baksh and Iqbal Begum" - actually was the second daughter MEENA KUMARI: The Classic Biography by Vinod Mehta Page 17
*"Irshad and Madhu were her two elder sisters" - Khursheed was her elder sister and Mahaleka@Madhu was her younger sister MEENA KUMARI: The Classic Biography by Vinod Mehta Page 17 Mehmood, a man of many moods by Hanif Zaveri Page 31
*"Her father, a Shia Muslim" - he was a Sunni Muslim MEENA KUMARI: The Classic Biography by Vinod Mehta Page 16  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Luview (talk • contribs) 14:54, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I have changed her birth name from  Mahjabeen Begum to Mahjabeen Bano. Regarding the other changes you want to be made, it would've been easier if you could specify the pages from the book you cited as a reference. Malayala Sahityam (talk) 18:25, 19 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Many errors

message: Who ever added this page can you please identify yourself. You have done a great job especially for a long forgotton actress. Hats Off.
Thanks i'm Shams Khan from Pakistan. It just a way to express my love and respect for my favorite actress Meena ji and sorry for a late reply i'm still learning how to use wikipedia , just came to know about the talk page. thanks --Rockyleo94 (talk) 12:58, 25 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Minakumari.jpg

message: "she herself was on a road to gradual ruin," swelling her debts" "people flocked to see it," "top-notch actress" etc, the language used here and in some Wikipedia articles about things related to India is perhaps Indian English? Like...'Bespattered with hackneyed idiom, sad flowers amongst simplistic prose, the overall effect is of a bygone day, that no modern encyclopedia subsumes'. (Sorry to be cruel. My English is awful.)--Timtak (talk) 17:21, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Indian English?

message: Under the heading "Relationship with Kamal Amrohi", please make a change in the first line from "...15 years elder than..." to "...15 years older than...". Basically a grammatical error.
Nadsat71 (talk) 11:20, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done  RudolfRed (talk) 02:22, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammatical error 

message: I saw an online claim that, like the modern Bollywood actor Hrithik Roshan,
Meena Kumani had abnormalities involving at least one hand. In her
case it was supposedly carefully concealed in her movie scenes. If true, 
this might be a partial explanation for her increasing feelings of isolation and sadness,
since in her day such abnormalities were cruelly mocked. If anyone has reliable
sources, they should be included in the article.
Younggoldchip (talk) 16:38, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did Meena Kumari Have Deformed Fingers? 

message: The section titled "The Poetess Naaz" is improperly delimited. As a result, the entire Legacy section appears italicized. Could you look into this? 223.186.45.94 (talk) 12:29, 17 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 17 January 2017 

message: I have been repeatedly trying to change her year of birth from 1933 to 1932 but somehow this error re-appears now and then.
I do have certain arguements which furthur supports that she was actually born in 1932:-
* Meena Kumari's biography by Vinod Mehta on Page 13 suggests her year of birth to be 1932,still there is a note given below which hints of some sort of confusion.
* She was the "heroine Meena Kumari" in Ramnik Productions' Bachchon Ka Khel which was released in 1946. This wikipedia page too confirms that she was just fourteen when the film released. (1932+14=1946)
* This article also supports the fact that she got married at 19, on February 14th,1952 (If she was born in Aug 1932,then by Feb 1952 she was actually 19)
* Kamal Amrohi-her husband, was born on January 17th,1918 and was 15 years elder than her (Her date of birth being August 1st,1932 she was younger to him by 14 years and 7 months,which is close to 15 years)
So, I would like to request the editor to take note of these facts and change her year of birth from 1933 to 1932.
Regards
Hi,
Replying the queries
*As per Filmfare 1954 article Meena ji's date of birth is 1 August 1933, it was published on 2 April 1954  with a special article on Meena Kumari. I added the reference link of the article to Meena Kumari Wiki page.
* Meena Kumari's biography by Vinod Mehta do mention the date of birth as 1932 with a note in end pages saying "The date is confirmed but not the year. Some people say she was born in 1933."
* Vinod Mehta also said in the book he couldn't access some of the old FilmIndia & Filmfare Magzines as they were not easily available.
* Filmfare magzine mentioning Meena Kumari date of birth 1933 was issued on 2 April 1954  during Meena Kumari life & Vinod Mehta's book 1st edition was published in October 1972 & 2nd edition in 2013 after Meena Kumaris death & mentioned the date of birth with a error note.
hope this cleared the confusion. A request plz change Meena ji's year of birth from 1932 to 1933
Regards--Rockyleo94 (talk) 12:35, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error in Meena Kumari's year of birth 

message: In Death section "Alcohol" is misspelled as "Alcohal" Gauravkmr12 (talk) 03:29, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done —MRD2014 Talk 03:50, 4 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2018 

message: I hv never heard that Meena Kumari was also known as the Female Guru Dutt.  Von de leorde (talk) 16:50, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meena Kumari 's other names  

message: Legal/real names are used first in lead sentences followed by assumed pen/stage names per WP:LEGALNAME. I merely rearranged with already present sources. Muslims in India generally assume paternal names as surnames which is evidenced by the McFarland citation that gives the name as: Mahjabeen Bux. "Bano" is simply a title meaning 'child/child of' which of course would change after marriage (such as 'Bibi' or 'Begum') in this case: Mahajabeen Ara Begum as evidenced by the Scroll.in ref. 
My other changes were in the infobox which were per the template documentation. Gotitbro (talk) 02:57, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Please continue the discussion here. McFarland is a perfectly reliable source and gives the name as such. Anyway my contention is not what the real name is/was but that it should be mentioned in the beginning per WP:LEGALNAME. And I don't see anything contentious besides the name in my edits so your wholescale revert of it was completely unnecessary. Gotitbro (talk) 03:04, 14 January 2020 (UTC)

text: Again Bano is a title which is obviously obsolete for this article. Just because the Saira Bano does not list her correct name the same should not be the case here. Ara is not a place its an Urdu adjective which simply means "adorned"; and we are not listing her original/birth name in the lead sentence but the "real/legal name" at the time of her death (again read the WP:LEGALNAME policy) which changed after marriage into Mahjabeen "Ara Begum". Gotitbro (talk) 03:47, 14 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real name 

message: , My point here is that they didn't divorce but separate. I think you're getting confused between the two. MK never shared an apartment with Mr. Amrohi after 1964 but she was still married to him. Take the case of Dimple Kapadia, she too lived separately but never divorced her husband. Same applies to Meena Kumari.
Above all, it's so nice to see your edit after a long time. With regards and love. Vrishchik (talk) 07:13, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Marital Status

message: That her grandmother Hem Sundari was a daughter or was wife/widow of a member of the Tagore family (Sukumar Thakur Tagore or Jadu Nath Tagore), appears to be just a rumor or a claim. There are several inconsistencies in the accounts. Can someone examine these accounts and trace the source?   Malaiya (talk) 18:06, 30 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Connection with Tagore family?

message: Hello there. I simply want to add more information to her partial filmography, like adding the names of three more films done by Meena Kumari. Ehsanul (talk) 16:27, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 16:53, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2022 

message: Hello once again. Kindly note that the missing film names are: Footpath (1953), Bhabi Ki Chudiyan (1962), Bheegi Raat (1965), Noor Jehan (1966/67) and Bahu Begum (1967). Also please note that Aarti is a 1964 film and not a 1962 film (as per HMV). Ehsanul (talk) 16:36, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: as you have not requested a specific change in the form "Please replace XXX with YYY" or "Please add ZZZ between PPP and QQQ".More importantly, you have not cited reliable sources to back up your request, without which no information should be added to, or changed in, any article. - Arjayay (talk) 16:54, 20 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 20 May 2022 (2)