Talk:MechWarrior 4: Vengeance

message: Yo somebody that isn't lazy :3 give info on veng, merc, and black knight rereleased (free downloads of the games... can find info on IGN)
:There hasn't been any new info on the re-release. There's been a single status update along the lines of "We're still working on it! Our new LAN system needs to be functional at launch.", but that's about it. So the this page is, in fact, actually up to date. Unfortunately. --JamesGecko (talk) 05:41, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I made changes to the article because it doesn't reflect what is actually being released.  What is being release is Mercenaries and the IS/Clan expansion, not veng or black knight.  I'm a beta for MekTek and its stated on the recent front page article.  The free release info is on the Mercs page. Thisisentchris87 (talk) 02:33, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: But as I know Mercenaries contains all meks from Black Knight. Will this meks in free release? --Peter Porai-Koshits (talk) 08:58, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes those mechs will still be in. Thisisentchris87 (talk) 13:20, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

text: This also includes MekMatch Thisisentchris87 (talk) 02:36, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Yo

message: A basic plot outline is needed for this game. I'll be willing to write it if others won't.Theodorel 23:31, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I've added the plot section. Theodorel 17:41, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot synopsis

message: Additional sources.
After this independent support groups Mektek and NBT released several patches and enhancement for the MechWarrior 4 series of gamesCatalystgamelabs.com: MekTek. Also, Mektek released a Java-based patch "MekMatch" that replaces the "Zone.com" server with their own community master server and match making serviceMekMatch Server ListGames For Games: From BattleTech.com…NBT / GigAve Server Statistics, so that players can still locate games to play online.
* Catalystgamelabs.com: MekTek
* Games For Games: From BattleTech.com…
* NBT / GigAve Server Statistics
3 sources. Notable? --Peter Porai-Koshits (talk) 22:44, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Free MW4 "Very Shortly"
MekTek.net ... update their matchmaking software that's taking the place of Microsoft's now-defunct Zonematch service
And please - stop reverting! --Peter Porai-Koshits (talk) 08:15, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added the info about MekTek wanting to replace the master server under the multiplayer section as a single paragraph. I'm kind of leaning toward including the master server list, but I'm not really sure so I've asked some of the previous editors involved the debate here for their opinion. Eik Corell (talk) 11:29, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thx. Current state is okey for me. --Peter Porai-Koshits (talk) 12:37, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion 

message: Personaly I think it can stay up as long as its accurate.  Although it isn't really accurate in the first line becuase we (MekTek) never announced that Vengeance was the game to be released.  We announced it as MechWarrior 4.  Vengeance doesn't represent the entire series.
The rest of the information he added is fine, its the information regarding the free release that matters.
If some one feels that it should be deleted they can be the judge of that, if they feel that it is necessary I will vouch for a topic lock.  They should get the idea that the information isn't accurate if we keep deleting it, but they are not, they should post in here to support their edits, not act like a vandal.Thisisentchris87 (talk) 02:26, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The latest edits are reverting the article back to the point it was at before all the lists were removed per WP:GAMECRUFT, #6 specifically. Lists of weapons, maps, and mechs fall under that guideline. Such content is to be avoided because its primary function in an article is just to make it longer; bloat it, if you will. If any of the details are important, such as writing about how rocket launcher from the Quake series allows players to navigate the map more easily through rocket jumping, but that's provided that it's added to Gameplay section, and not as part of a list. Hope that clears it up. Eik Corell (talk) 16:29, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: OK that clears it up.  So if he does it again, we'll revert it yet again.  Would it be possible to protect or semi-protect the topic?Thisisentchris87 (talk) 20:52, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: 72.155.155.248 edits

message: The latest edits have been restoring the article to a horrible version. The version in question has gameguide info; mentioning server IPs, WP:GAMECRUFT in the form of a giant long list of weapons, mechs, and their weight. It then delves into bad tone by referring to the reader as "you", and stuff like that. The multiplayer section is not encyclopedic either; it's written as bullet points and not as prose. So that's why the new(actually the old) version is not acceptable. Eik Corell (talk) 14:32, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed completely. Some guy (talk) 13:00, 23 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latest edits