Talk:Xiao'erjing

message: Seems like it's phonetic? Not sure on this. The TUFS page notes other ways of referring to Xiao-Er-Jin like 小經, which is more transparent (it contrasts with 大經, i.e. the use of Arabic to write the Arabic language, as in the Koran). Also the term for Xiao-Er-Jin differs regionally. cab 22:07, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Arabic for Arabic is called 本經/本经. --Shibo77 11:10, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of term 

message: See this sample (the bilingual one). It's a fully vowelled script (like the modern Uighur orthography, but unlike Arabic, Persian, Urdu, etc.). I'm guessing the straight diagonal strokes above and below the actual letters are tone marks, but I don't know what the tones should be in that dialect (which looks close to Mandarin, but some of the vowels seem weird, along with the tones --- for example, 性 should be the same 4th tone as 分 or 六 in Mandarin, but it has a double tone mark while the two others have only single tone marks.) cab 22:07, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Tones are not marked, those are vowel marks. --Shibo77 11:10, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So how do those who read xiaoerjin know which tone to pronounce things with? Fascinating. -- InfernoXV (talk) 20:35, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tone marking 

message: What is the extent of usage of Xiao-Er-Jin among the Hui today? cab 22:07, 24 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Very rare. --Shibo77 11:10, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current usage 

message: What's the cyrillicization scheme called?
: The Dungans use the Cyrillic script, so it is called the Dungan Cyrillic alphabet. --Shibo77 11:10, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cyrillicization 

message: At least some of the letters listed as "unique to Xiao'erjing" are not. 6, for example, is used in Sindhi for . --Ptcamn 04:55, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unique letters 

message: In the Initials and consonants section, the notes for number 17 (, [s]-) say, "only used for entering tone or formerly entering tone syllables."  However, it gives the example 思 sī, which is not an historically entering tone syllable.  However, number 19 (, also [s]-) gives the example 色 sè, which is an historically entering tone syllable.  Is it possible that the note went on the wrong row?  —Umofomia (talk) 01:02, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed this issue still exists in the article, even though I raised it 13 years ago. I marked the note for discussion so that someone with more knowledge can look into it. My knowledge of Xiao'erjing is lacking, but I know for certain that 思 is not a historically entering tone syllable. — Umofomia (talk) 16:58, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I saw it mentioned on this talk page that much of the content of this article was translated directly from the corresponding article in the Chinese Wikipedia, so I took a look there to see what the corresponding note said. It looks like the  note ("仅限于入聲字") used to exist there too, but was removed in this edit in 2013. No edit summary indicating the reasoning was given though, nor was there any discussion on that talk page. The note that remains in that entry is also rather vague ("小儿经特有字母" - "Xiao'erjing special use letter"). — Umofomia (talk) 17:44, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  [s]- and the entering tone 

message: I've removed the image of the tombs at the Niujie Mosque since it is not actually an example of xiaoerjing. The Arabic script in the image is simply Arabic and the Chinese being a transliteration from that, not vice versa as would be the case w/ xiaoerjing, e.g. the first name艾哈麦德　布尔塔尼 would be "َاىْ هَا مَىْ دْ بُوْ عَر تَا نِ". Yung Wei (talk) 06:28, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  image of tombs removed  

message: What would be the Xiao'erjing equivalents for the following words?:
#昂 áng = ءْاݣ‎ or ءْا ?
#擦 cā = ?
#純 chún = ?
#綽 chuò = ?
#粗 cū = ?
#但 dàn = دًا‎ or دً ?
#的 de = دْ or دِؤ‎ ?
#額 é = عـَ‎ or عَ?
#非 fēi = ﻓُﻮِٔ or فِ‎?
#附 fù = ﻓُﻮْ or حْ ?
#更 gèng = قْعݣ‎ or ﻗْﻊ?
#何 hé = حـْ‎ or حْ?
#紅 hóng = خْوݣ‎ or ﺡْﻮ?
#解 jiě = كِئ‎ or دِﻰٔ?
#卡 kǎ = ?
#看 kàn = ?
#考 kǎo = ?
#肯 kěn = ?
#坑 kēng = ?
#空 kōng = ?
#跨 kuà = ?
#虧 kuī = ?
#拉 lā = ?
#來 lái = ?
#蘭 lán = ?
#浪 làng = ?
#勞 láo = ?
#樂 lè = ?
#類 lèi = ?
#冷 lěng = ?
#力 lì = لِر‎ or لِ‎? 
#倆 liǎ = ?
#料 liào = ?
#林 lín = ?
#流 liú = ?
#柳 liǔ = ?
#攏 lǒng = ?
#樓 lóu = ?
#路 lù = ?
#旅 lǚ = ?
#卵 luǎn = ?
#論 lùn = ?
#邏 luó = ?
#呣 ḿ = ?
#滅 miè = ?
#那 nà = ?
#耐 nài = ?
#難 nán = ?
#囊 náng = ?
#腦 nǎo = ?
#呢 ne = ?
#內 nèi = ?
#嫩 nèn = ?
#能 néng = ?
#年 nián = ?
#娘 niáng = ?
#鳥 niǎo = ?
#捏 niē = ?
#您 nín = ?
#寧 níng = ?
#農 nóng = ?
#努 nǔ = ?
#暖 nuǎn = ?
#虐 nüè = ?
#挪 nuó = ?
#喔 ō = ?
#爬 pá = ?
#拍 pāi = ?
#判 pàn = ?
#旁 páng = ?
#跑 pǎo = ?
#配 pèi = ?
#朋 péng = ?
#皮 pí = ?
#片 piàn = ?
#票 piào = ?
#品 pǐn = ?
#平 píng = ?
#剖 pōu = ?
#普 pǔ = ?
#洽 qià = ?
#千 qiān = ?
#強 qiáng = ?
#巧 qiǎo = ?
#請 qǐng = ?
#球 qiú = ?
#區 qū = ?
#全 quán = ?
#缺 quē = ?
#群 qún = ?
#然 rán = ?
#讓 ràng = ?
#繞 rào = ?
#認 rèn = ?
#仍 réng = ?
#容 róng = ?
#柔 róu = ?
#入 rù = ?
#軟 ruǎn = ?
#瑞 ruì = ?
#潤 rùn = ?
#若 ruò = ?
#傻 shǎ = ?
#曬 shài = ?
#善 shàn = ?
#上 shàng = ?
#少 shǎo = ?
#社 shè = ?
#身 shēn = ?
#手 shǒu = ?
#書 shū = ?
#刷 shuā = ?
#帥 shuài = ?
#雙 shuāng = ?
#睡 shuì = ?
#順 shùn = ?
#說 shuō = ?
#台 tái = ?
#談 tán = ?
#躺 tǎng = ?
#討 tǎo = ?
#藤 téng = ?
#提 tí = ?
#天 tiān = ?
#跳 tiào = ?
#貼 tiē = ?
#挺 tǐng = ?
#透 tòu = ?
#兔 tù = ?
#團 tuán = ?
#腿 tuǐ = ?
#屯 tún = ?
#陀 tuó = ?
#脫 tuō = ?
#習 xí = ?
#下 xià = ?
#現 xiàn = ?
#謝 xiè = ?
#醒 xǐng = ?
#雄 xióng = ?
#修 xiū = ?
#需 xū = ?
#選 xuǎn = ?
#雪 xuě = ?
#尋 xún = ?
#陽 yáng = يْاݣ‎ or ݣْاݣ‎?
#業 yè = لٍ or اِئ‎?
#一 yī = ىِ  or ءِ‎?
#雜 zá = ?
#贊 zàn = ?
#贓 zāng = ?
#造 zào = ?
#這 zhè = جـْ‎ or جْ?
#住 zhù = ﺟُﻮْ or ﺟُﻮ?
#總 zǒng = ?
#走 zǒu = ?
#租 zū = ?
#鑽 zuān = ?
Thanks. --JackonLee54 (talk) 22:32, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Xiao'erjing help

message: I assume Arabic and Persian loanwords are written the same, but how are they pronounced?
~~ א. א. אינסטלציה (talk) 06:46, 11 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arabic and Persian in Xiao-er-jing 

message: Image of the tomb is not Xiaoerjing, It's an actual typical arabic, so it's not approporiate to present it as Xiaoerjing. BasilLeaf (talk) 17:38, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed it was first removed by  in 2009, who cited the same reasoning previously on this talk page, but was later added back in 2019 in this series of changes by . I removed it again in this change. I encourage you to be bold and make such changes if you see similar issues in the future. — Umofomia (talk) 17:21, 2 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image of Tomb