Talk:September 25

message: --mav 00:20, 1 Mar 2004 (UTC)

message: Why should the Halo 3 release be removed from this page? It is a huge event for video games and will likely sell extremely well. Halo3 is the most anticipated game release for 2007. So to whoever is reverting it please post your reason please. L CuRtiS 22:02, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First, it is a future event.  Those don't go here no matter how important they are.  Second, it is a video game.  See here. -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 22:06, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  According to the link you provided, the sections for births and deaths should also be removed. So should some of the events. L CuRtiS 01:49, 17 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Please remain civil or you will be blocked. On September 25 Halo 3 can be added, it is going to be more notable than some of the events on the page (bearing in mind that perhaps they don't belong but I'm not very familiar with  the policy regarding date articles). The thing is though, it has not been released yet, perhaps the game will be a complete flop, it's highly unlikely but possible so we should wait until there has been an event before adding it. Note also that the link provided (Wikipedia:Notability on a global scale over time#What Is Not Notable) is not a policy or guideline. James086Talk | Email 12:40, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

text: "Halo3 is the most anticipated game release for 2007." - That's opinion, not fact. What about The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass? Or how about movie releases? Should Pirates of the Carribean: At World's End be added as well? Here's some more notable events for today: GM workers begin strike after deadline passes, Anger at Iran leader's NY speech, FBI: Violent Crimes in U.S. Approaching 5-Year Peak. The fact is, it's fancruft. I didn't put the final episode of Gilmore Girls on that date list. Just because it happens to be important to you does not mean it's notable.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.116.162.162 (talk) 17:47, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, there is something s/he can do about it. If there is consensus not to enter Halo 3 then it will be kept out of the list. I would argue though that the release of Halo 3 is more notable than the 73 000 workers striking. However, even though the game is out, there are no sources to say that it's notable. When it breaks records then it may be notable. I agree that the inclusion is on the edge of what should/shouldn't and until it's clear with all parties, it should default to "not included" in the article/list. James086Talk | Email 23:38, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: An event is rarely notable on the day that it occurs.  Only on reflection and in historical context can an event be evaluated as notable (in most cases - a notable exception is the assassination of a president).  Remember that newsworthy does not mean noteworthy.  Not all records are notable.  In 50 years will anyone care that this event occurred?  Absolutely not.  I also often see the argument "But what about all these other events, surely this is more important than those."  That is a vapid argument and simply indicates ignorance of the fact that one can only address one issue at a time and the newest issues always get the attention first.  71.255.161.120 00:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's true (see my first comment) and I'm starting to doubt whether the release belongs. Yes it has broken records but it will not hold up to the 50 year test. I'm a big fan of the series though so I'm not exactly neutral when it comes to Halo, not the best quality when trying to write a neutral encyclopedia. James086Talk | Email 08:28, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

text: "In 50 years will anyone care that this event occurred? Absolutely not." Ummmm...yeah... Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.  You're argument is COMPLETELY FLAWED because your point is based off a bastardization of policy itself.  How do you know nobody will care?  Did you gaze 50 years into the future?  Does Wikipedia policy state "...Well, if we can assume it is going to be notable in the future, by god!!  Lets just stick it in there!!"  No, it doesn't.  You CAN NOT use a crystal ball argument on Wikipedia, it just doesn't make sense.  Oh, and BTW, Halo 2 is 4-5 years old now, and it is STILL being used as a case study in many studios and universities.  It is also STILL the MOST PLAYED GAME ON XBOX LIVE...EVEN AFTER 4 YEARS (not surprisingly, as of yesterday Halo 3 is the most played game on Xbox).  Next time, make your argument logical.  68.143.88.2 15:09, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

text: it is clearly illustrated in the policy that...individual video games are not notable enough.  Wow, thats news to me.  Wholly crap, that changes everything...except...  POLICY SAYS NOTHING LIKE THAT.  I suggest you read before you make comments.  Besides, it's NOT THE GAME FOR THE LAST TIME AND FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, it is notable because of the economic impact it had in the industry.  It caused Microsoft stock to increase!  A freakin' video game!  Do you have any idea how significant that is, that a single video game release can make a significantly positive increase in a companies stock the size of Microsoft's in it's 1st 24 hours of release? OMG, open your eyes people. 68.143.88.2 15:16, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

text: For someone who "doesn't give a fuck", you certainly have said a lot about your opinion. -- 12.116.162.162 17:54, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Look, I'm calmed down.  This is just driving me crazy.  For example, you say "this is not notable on a global scale", then you say, "halo 3 has a massive global impact on the industry as you say".  Do you not see how contradictory this sounds?  It did have an impact on a global scale...economically.  Some of the other markets, Europe for example, have not had time to develope examples via press releases and other news media, but it will come.  There is no denying something is a "global impact" if it generates that much money.  When the final figures are in, they are saying $155,000,000 on release day.  That is more than any Spiderman movie grossed over an entire weekend!  Did you know there is also more media tie-ins than any other media event in history?  Halo 3 "leased" a NASCAR with a new paintjob.  Pepsi Co. invented a new "gaming drink" themed Halo 3.  Microsoft spent more money on TV advertising than the GDP of the 19 lowest preforming emerging countries!  
GameStop fired over 75 employees for playing the game early.  Over 10,000 stores across the United States and 600 across Europe opened up at midnight on release day to supply the massive demand.  In Europe, they opened at midnight!  I can't find a single other event where that has happened over there.  Halo 3 sold over 3,000,000 pre-orders, at a minimum of $60.00 each.  That is $180,000,000.00 in just pre-orders alone minimum!  Xbox live servers all over Europe and in same places in the United States failed due to usage volume last night directly caused by Halo 3. All Internet traffic slowed 0.8% due to the massive bandwidth from Halo 3 online matches.  How can this not be notable? 68.143.88.2 15:49, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

text: My reason for "suggesting" other events on the same day was to establish that there are certainly things that are more relevant and notable on a global scale, having more of an impact on people's lives than whether or not they play a video game. It has not radically changed the way video games are played. As far as the midnight release -- umm... Harry Potter? A midnight release itself should not be the determining factor of something being added to the list. It should be: is it notable? I don't know of a single instance where it made a top story on any new program, or above-the-fold on a newspaper. In 3 years, when the next killer app is released, Halo 3 will fall by the side of the road. As far as the "FUCKING HUGE"-ness of the sales -- the figures are flawed, since many of the sales were pre-ordered and pre-paid. That is -- copies of Halo 3 were sold before September 25, but not released until then. Using the figures from 68.143.88.2, that's $180 million in pre-orders. That means all those sales did not happen on September 25. I hate to burst your overshield, but that's not a 24-hour record. "Pepsi Co. invented a new 'gaming drink' themed Halo 3" - That's nothing new. (Remember the 7-Elevens-turned-Kwik-E-Marts for the Simpsons movie?) It is illogical to say something is notable because the marketing people say it is. That's the purpose of marketing - to get you to believe that you need something that you don't and to buy it. -- 12.116.162.162 17:52, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Until we get actual sales figures from a source other than Microsoft reporting day-of-release sales and not pre-orders, it is inaccurate to say that it broke sales records. -- 12.116.162.162 18:09, 26 September 
2007 (UTC)
^^^^BTW, Microsoft is a publicly traded company.  By law they have to release accurate figures (duh) 68.143.88.2 18:29, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Gamestop lets you pay the full amount. I will grant you this though, since I cannot speak about Halo specifically, but I do know with any other game I had pre-ordered, there was the option of paying the full price at the time of pre-order.
2)Internet connections slowing 0.8%? Where did you get that figure from? And how can you possibly determine by fact that it was from Halo 3? "I'm trying to find my source, I remember reading it on USAToday maybe?  I'll find it."
3) Just because nothing else significant happened does not mean Halo 3 gets on by default. If anything, nothing should be on the list. agree
4) Since you want a significant event - The President of Iran addressing the UN and the US delegation walking out just before he speaks. How's that for global? actually this is a good argument, however I think Halo 3 is more significant.  
5) You misunderstood my point about 7-Eleven. Just as 7-Eleven was involved in marketing for the Simpsons movie, Pepsi was involved in marketing for Halo 3. 
6) The purpose of marketing is to get people to buy a product by name recognition. The way this is achieved is by the use of advertising (TV, radio, magazines, etc.) and corporate sponsorship. For example, "Pepsi is the official soft drink of the NFL". (I'm not saying this is the case, it's just an example.
7) Because of that, you cannot use the amount of marketing to establish that it's notable. "well marketing = $$$, if Halo 3 most expensive advertising campaign in history, that would also make it notable.  I'm not sure I understand your argument here?."
8) Any sales figures that I have read about have words like "projected" or "predicted" or some other word indicating it's not a solid figure. "Give it time"
9) "Name once instance where Harry Potter was sold at mid-night in Europe." England
"*note Did you read your cite?  It mentions nothing about going on sell at Midnight in Europe.  Also, the only paragraph what mentioned the word 'midnight' was in reference to the United States."
-- 12.116.162.162 19:23, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

text: England is in Europe -- 12.116.162.162 19:40, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

text: And it says "midnight London time" -- 12.116.162.162 19:41, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Halo 3

message: *2007 Halo 3 is released, generating more revenue in the first 24 hours than any other media event in history, including weekend box office blockbuster holiday films.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.143.88.2 (talk) 19:11, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The entry isn't even grammatically correct. What does it mean? Only blockbuster films released at the box office on a holiday weekend? That's what it says. Or, does it mean "box office blockbuster, weekend, or holiday films?" -- 12.116.162.162 18:03, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please, allow me to help you, I know you're having a hard time with all these words and stuff.  What I mean is that historically, Holiday blockbuster films gross more revenue than any other time of year.  wat this meens is dat holoday movies are reel sucessfol. 68.143.88.2 18:48, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

text: But that's not what the entry says. Say what you mean. -- 12.116.162.162 19:06, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is how Halo 3 will read =

message: In light of a new press release by a highly reliable source (MSNBC), attributing to Microsoft's new video game Halo 3 netting over $170,000,000.00 within 24 hours of release date, I am updating the article. DigitalNinja 03:25, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Results for Request for comment: speedy include (zero oppose) 

message: IT ARE RELEASE! I KNOW BECAUSE OF MY LEARNINGS IT ARE AN FACT! 170 MIL IN ONE DAY IS MERIT ENOUGH FOR THIS ARTICLE, STOP QQING!
ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US!!!!! 68.143.88.2 15:32, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No this is false 172.56.153.154 (talk) 21:31, 8 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: HALO 3 IS RELEASE

message: Hi there,
It has been 14 long years since the Raiders won their third and most recent premiership. Until they (god willing) win another 25 September 1994 will remain a globally significant event.
I would be grateful if you could revert your changes to my changes so that the Wikipedia entry "25 September" will inform readers of this globally significant event.
Yours in wiki,
Mike
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.44.81.3 (talk • contribs) 
:Please have a look at WP:DOY.  No sports team winning any championship is globally notable.  -- Mufka (u) (t) (c) 12:56, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Canberra Raiders' Third Premiership and Mal Meninga's Final Match were and continue to be globally significant events 

message: September 25th is World Pharmacist Day.
Pharmacist are the backbone of medical stream,if there's no Pharmacist, there is no Pharmaceutical Product and Medicine,So there don't have any Doctor,Nurse,Paramedical Staff because without a medine or medical products they could not give treatment to the Patients.25th September was dedicated to the soldiers who didn't get in front but giving their best to making doctors as God, Nurses as Pari.
Congratulations to the Lovely Responsible Pharmacist for their job,
World Pharmacist Day is Dedicated to them 🙏 Hemanta.puchu (talk) 21:25, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  World Pharmacist Day 

message: do entries like this require a Wiki article? --142.163.194.161 (talk) 22:28, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  National Research Administrators Day