Talk:Haguna

message: Berig is complaining that I removed references. What I had removed was this:
:Sources and external links
:*Lexikon över urnordiska personnamn
:*Nordiskt runnamnslexikon
Twice the same url, under different names, to a search interface in Swedish.
I understand Swedish, but could not find anything there on Haguna. /Pieter Kuiper 07:02, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You'll find the works on the right of the page, for consultation.--Berig 07:31, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. I made the first link more explicit by referring to the pdf. The second one is not helpful, so I removed it. I find the claim that these names occurred before 700 AD a bit hard to swallow. /Pieter Kuiper 08:21, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The removed references 

message: I argue two things:
* This is a page about a name. It discusses etymology. It lists a few instances of this name. It does not conform to the guidelines for a disambiguation page on WP:D.
* I think it is rather obvious that one does not want readers to bypass this article when sent there from an internal link, an encouragement generated by the wp:d-tag.
User:Berig just 'does not agree', and reverts. Ah well, skitsamma, as we say in Sweden. /Pieter Kuiper 10:33, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This article was created as a disambiguation page since several of the characters appear in different sources with different forms of the name. If you feel that the article cannot and must not be a disambiguation page, you need to create a disambiguation page that can replace it.--Berig 10:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It does not matter how it was created. What matters is the situation now, and the article does not come close to the format described in WP:D. You cannot insist on two contradictory things: insisting on redirecting Hogni and Högni here instead of to Högne, and encouraging readers to resolve internal redirects. But as I said, I could not care less about Hogne. /Pieter Kuiper 11:01, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The same character appears with all those name forms in different sources. What you suggest would create several disambiguation pages, when there is only need for *one*, the present one. Moreover, please explain exactly how this page does not comply with the format of the guideline of WP:D.--Berig 11:08, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:Manual of Style (disambiguation pages). This one here is an article about the Haguna name cluster, with etymology, pretty pictures etc, as I already tried to explain. A disambiguation page is a non-article page. /Pieter Kuiper 12:41, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since it is apparently of vital importance to you that this article not have the disambiguation notice, while I think it is useful that it serves as a disambiguation page, it might be best if other users have their say.--Berig 14:12, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Other users had their say in WP:D. You are not listening. /Pieter Kuiper 14:33, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am talking of *this* article, not pages in general.--Berig 14:35, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:D expresses a reasoned consensus, it is not just a random discussion page. /Pieter Kuiper 14:39, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

text: For every style suggestion above, there's some page which has a good reason to do something else. These guidelines are intended for consistency, but usefulness to the reader is the principal goal. So ignore these guidelines if you have a good reason.
I think that we have good reasons to leave the disambiguation notice here, and please, allow others to have their say too.--Berig 14:45, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, either it is a disambiguation page which is by definition purely an aid to navigation and should not contain images and references or it is a article about the name. At present, it looks more like an article about a name than a disambiguation page. older ≠ wiser 23:03, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Now I will try to improve the encyclopedic content of this article. /Pieter Kuiper 23:14, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Maybe. But the article is not only (and not even mainly) about the name. It also is about which of these characters may or may not be identical. /Pieter Kuiper 15:13, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is not a disambiguation page ([[WP:D]]) 

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thread_title:  External links modified