Talk:Bibliography of Hillary Clinton

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message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Hillary Rodham Clinton which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 14:59, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
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message: The lede says: "As with other controversial political figures (such as George W. Bush), there tends to be a larger market for critical than supportive books."  A hidden note says: "This phenomenon has been noted often; see for example http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,1006298,00.html  http://www.boston.com/news/globe/living/articles/2007/06/06/at_bookexpo_a_fractured_right_and_an_energized_left/  http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2003-11-03-political-books_x.htm "
However, the greater number of negative books about a person is often because the person was actually lousy; see Joe McCarthy, Joe Stalin, Richard Nixon, Jack the Ripper, etc.  I cannot access the Time article, but neither of the other two hidden sources say why Clinton has a lot of negative books about her.  Accordingly, to avoid original research, I think the unsourced sentence ought to be removed.
I object to a statement in the lead that essentially says: "Pay no attention to those negative books, they only exist for money-making purposes."Anythingyouwant (talk) 21:37, 17 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The Time piece talks about the success of the angry book industry, but does not mention Clinton by name.  If you've ever watched cable TV news, or read political blogs, or listened to talk radio, you know that praising A always gets less time or space than ranting against B; it's just human nature.  In the current totally polarized American political climate, it's responsible for things like Bush Derangement Syndrome, which has also occurred during the Clinton and Obama administrations.  This PolitiFact piece says "The anti-Clinton market must be considerably more lucrative because it has four times the pro-Clinton offerings," but they may have thought it just because this article said it.  Another whole school of thought is that professional conservatives just have a visceral hatred for Hillary, and thus can't get enough of writing bad things about her; see this TPM piece or this Daily Beast piece or this Atlantic piece.  Or maybe you are right, and Hillary is really as bad as the people you name, although even in Bob Tyrrell's most fevered dreams I don't think he'd put her on a level with Stalin, who after all was responsible for the deaths of tens of millions of people.  Wasted Time R (talk) 12:24, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: No question Stalin was a murderous tyrant, but he was also responsible for killing 90% of the Nazis who died in WWII, which gives him some redeeming features that perhaps HRC lacks (unless one admires killing Khadaffi without congressional consent so that anarchy would befall Libya and other regimes would understand the risks of forswearing nuclear weapons).  Anyway, the larger number of negative books about Clinton and Bush ought not be dismissed in the lead of either list, or in Richard Nixon bibliography, so I'll remove it along with the "cn" tag.Anythingyouwant (talk) 17:14, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Why so many books are mean to Hillary

message: The url "https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bibliography_of_Hillary_Clinton#Anti..." doesn't work in Facebook because the three dots have a different meaning there. Changing the anchor to "#Anti" would both improve readability and make peace with Facebook. AND fair warning, the three dots don't even work here on this talk page: Notice that the little blue link icon precedes the three dots. They've been lopped off here too! Page Notes (talk) 02:04, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad URL 

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The result of the move request was: not moved. Jenks24 (talk) 15:48, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: List of books by or about Hillary Rodham Clinton →  – Per WP:CONSISTENCY with Hillary Clinton. While many of these books include Rodham, this is a reference to her, and consensus on WP supports referring to her as Hillary Clinton. В²C ☎ 20:30, 11 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I may be neutral here but....please see the list of her columns.  Many were signed "Hillary Clinton" instead of HRC.Anythingyouwant (talk) 02:27, 12 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I may be neutral here, but ... count the book titles that use HRC versus HC, excluding the childrens' literature.  Way more use HC.Anythingyouwant (talk) 02:27, 12 June 2015 (UTC)

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*User:Michipedian's rename of this page ((Move log); 20:46 . . Michipedian (talk | contribs) moved page List of books by or about Hillary Rodham Clinton to List of books by or about Hillary Clinton over redirect ‎) was improper and should be reverted.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:13, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you Michipedian.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 01:28, 3 October 2015 (UTC)

text: *User:Michipedian's instincts were spot on and his actions demonstrate that the current title should be changed. I tried with the last RM; someone else could do the next one.  --В²C ☎ 06:14, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 11 June 2015 

message: ‪*Zeifman, Jerry.  Hillary's Pursuit of Power.  Xlibris Corporation‬, 2006.  ISBN ‪1-42571-791-8.‬
Anythingyouwant (talk) 05:39, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Xlibris is a self-publishing outfit, see their web site at http: // www. xlibris. com / about_xlibris.aspx [I've had to break it up because it got flagged by WP's blacksite list when I hit 'Save', which tells you something].  A book has to have a real, conventional publisher to be listed here.  Zeifman did put out a book in 1996 via a real publisher, Without Honor: The Impeachment of President Nixon and the Crimes of Camelot (Thunder's Mouth Press), but that wasn't Hillary-specific.  Given the existence of Regnery, WND Books, and other conservative politics imprints, having a real publisher is a pretty low bar to meet but I guess Zeifman couldn't find one for his Hillary book.  Note also that Zeifman's central allegations regarding Hillary and the House Judiciary Committee are bogus, see this Snopes piece for example.   Wasted Time R (talk) 10:11, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting, thanks.  I'm curious what he said about her in the 1996 book, even if that book does not belong in this list.Anythingyouwant (talk) 10:15, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: How about this one?

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The result of the move request was: moved as proposed. SSTflyer 13:55, 24 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Bibliography of Hillary Rodham Clinton →  – Earlier this year, there was a rather extensive discussion that Hillary Clinton's article should be titled as such; no Rodham.  This page should be bound by that discussion.  Also, this should be called "Bibliography" rather than "List of books by and about" (its previous title) to be consistent with the titles of similar pages. pbp 13:48, 17 September 2016 (UTC)

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* What happened?  People got obsessed over current events.  HRC always publishes as HRC, if excluding non-serious things like campaign pamphlets and ballot names.  The latest book makes it clear that her chosen name is Hillary Rodham Clinton, Hillary Rodham pre-marriage, and the title should be changed back.  --SmokeyJoe (talk) 03:21, 12 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 17 September 2016 

message: She announced today that she is releasing a the book State of Terror on October 12. Elijahandskip (talk) 14:22, 23 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Book article