Talk:Charles J. Chaput

message: I do know that the Archbishop is a somewhat controversial figure after the statements he made following the election, and I'd keep that in mind when making future edits to this article.
JesseG 19:11, Dec 11, 2004 (UTC)
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This page should be merged with the entry for "Charles Chaput"
:There is no entry for Charles Chaput.  It's just a redirect to this article.  I think it should be left as is for the time being.
JesseG 04:24, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
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message: I don't think the pronunciation that has been added is correct. I have heard it spokeand have seen it explained that it is pronounced like "shampoo" without the 'm' (edited to add: ʃæ'puː). The source added says "(pronounced sha-PEW')", not shə-POO. I read "sha-PEW'" as rhyming with "shampoo" without the 'm' and with an added 'y' after the 'p'.
The point is, I don't think the pronunciation given is correct. I may be wrong, but the source given doesn't support the pronunciation given. --Elliskev 17:09, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure if this helps, but I would say his name is pronounced as shə pew'. (Pronouncing pew as the bench in churches). carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 20:26, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I have re-added the pronunciation, this time with a citation. The "pew" vs. "poo" sound could be the result of regional pronunciation differences. (For example, in Pennsylvania where I live, "dew" is pronounced as "doo", but in other places, it's pronounced "dyoo". — AJDS talk 21:22, 19 July 2011 (UTC)

text: I have just changed the pronunciation after hearing a YouTube video of Card. Rigali introducing Abp. Chaput. I assume that Card. Rigali pronounced it correctly. — AJDS talk 20:10, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The way it is currently (sha-pyoo) is probably about as close as you're gonna get sounding it out.  If I were to describe the pronounciation (as done in Denver) it would be Sha with a long A sound similar to that of the SHA sound in SHAtter.  Followed by the "pee you" that you might say when you smell something that stinks, but where the p is very short, soft, and all but dropped and the "you" is pronounced with a "w" sound at the end.  Similar to the sound of Pewter.---Balloonman Poppa Balloon 03:28, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Anyways, his surname is French Canadian, and in Quebec it is not pronounced Shapyew, it is pronounced Shapu, with a hard u, which sounds like the German ü sound, as in Glück. Also, in French, the letter t is often silent if it is the last letter of a word and preceded by a vowel. I know his name is pronounced in a different way in English, but I just wanted to give the original French pronunciation. 76.67.158.22 (talk) 01:16, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of his surname 

message: The following excerpt was copied from Chaput's entry here on Wikipedia today (July 19, 2011).  This is not all the text that was intended to be displayed, but if I try to fix it, I would have to do a bunch of test edits.  Could this be fixed by someone more knowledgeable than I am?  Here is the excerpt:
On July 19, 2011 [4] appointed as Archbishop of Philadelphia.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.63.16.82 (talk) 20:22, 19 July 2011 (UTC)
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message: Does anybody know if Chaput has ever had a stroke?  I've been watching a number of his interviews and the left side of Chaput's mouth doesn't move in harmony with the right side.  This is often (but not always) an indciator that somebody has had a stroke.---Balloonman Poppa Balloon 16:57, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stroke? 

message: The claim that Chaput is descended from Saint Louis IX, King of France, is not confirmed by the reference provided. Said reference offers only that his claim of descent inspired a color field on his coat of arms. Descent from medieval royalty is easy and commonplace to claim, but hard to prove. I think either proper documentation should be provided or the claim deleted. Adamgarrigus (talk) 22:07, 17 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purported descent from Louis IX 

message: Dear Elizium23, I disagree with your decision. My additions to Charles Chaput page were completely neutral. I added the words "Conservatism and Controversial Views" because that is more precise. The Archbishop's views are conservative and controversial. Abbotjohn (talk) 16:58, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It is unnecessary to be so specific with a section header, which should be a concise description of the entire section below it. Why constrain the section to "conservative and controversial" views? What if he is found to have some liberal views (conservative and liberal are political terms not applicable to Catholic belief.) What if some of his views are not controversial? To whom do his views appear controversial? Not to me, not to the Vatican, not to the Pope. Therefore, it is introducing a POV unnecessarily. Please read WP:NPOV, which also discourages article sections exclusively about criticism or controversy, which is what you are trying to do. Also, these terms are not sourced or supported in the article. Nowhere does the article say anything about "controversy" or "conservative". What you will need to do first is to establish the validity of these terms by writing prose in the article and supporting it with reliable secondary sources which explicitly use these terms. But you will need to use strong sources because this is a WP:BLP and you are trying to make contentious claims. Good luck. Elizium23 (talk) 17:09, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

text: I agree, it expresses a "point of view" that we work hard to avoid on Wikipedia.  In addition to the items mentioned by Elizium23 above, it also implies that "conservative" views are also "controvesial" and that is really a matter of opinion or point of view.  Now, if you have an abundance of sources that state his views are conservative and controversial, that might play a little different.--Paul McDonald (talk) 17:24, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archbishop Chaput's Views are Conservative and Controversial 

message: In this edit  effectively proposed that this article be moved to Charles Chaput.
The Charles Chaput page has significant history before it became a redirect. It was once a separate article, merged into Charles J. Chaput after discussion. In light of that history I am declining the speedy deletion tag and not performing the suggested move from Charles J. Chaput to Charles Chaput until a consensus develops after discussion here. see Requested Moves for procedure. DES (talk) 20:23, 26 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move 

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message: Can someone please clarify what the "LGBT movement" is please and how Chaput is opposed to the "movement"? Thanks. Contaldo80 (talk) 22:36, 26 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Opposition to LGBT movement