Talk:Gen Digital/Archive 1

message: Apparently, the IRS is charging Symantec close to 1 Billion USD for issues relateing to the VERITAS takeover or buyout. Check this slashdot article.  I think a section on this would be helpful and appropriate. zorkerz 21:35, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: IRS and Symantec

message: Rtvscan is a short article that is unlikely to expand. Is anyone opposed to merging it into this page? DiggyG (talk) 19:49, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose.  This is an article about the company.  That info should be merged to Norton Antivirus, which is about that product. --ChrisRuvolo (t) 20:56, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, new merge discussion is at the Norton AntiVirus talk page: Talk:Norton_AntiVirus#Merge_Rtvscan. DiggyG (talk) 22:03, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Rtvscan 

message: The current financial numbers are completely wrong. Someone should look up the numbers for FY2010.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.203.188.54 (talk) 23:07, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Financials

message: I'm going to fix the missing early history, there's a lot missing. I wrote some of the early third party software Symantec marketed through the Turner Hall Publishing Division. There is also a lot of missing details about how they mostly bought and rebranded products and did not actually develop all that much in-house. 
Let's stop the noise about adding criticisms into the article this is supposed to be objective and factual and neutrality is paramount in any article. TW Burger (talk) 00:13, 29 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Need for Accuracy and Objectivity

message: http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C01E2DC1E3FF936A35757C0A962958260 should suffice as a cite (or if it doesn’t then CPS’s own page has a problem too l-) Ewx (talk) 09:11, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Central Point Software 

message: Someone should put on the main page that Symantec's security products are among some of the world's worst software. In General they:
Slow down a computer system dramatically.
Offer sub standard detection of threats.
Are ludicrously easy to disable.
Can not be cleanly removed because they believe they OWN your PC and can do whatever they want.
Cost way more than they are worth.
Lack general quality, as more money is spent on advertising, legal matters and developing anti-piracy systems than on actually developing the main purpose of the software itself.
Should be avoided at all costs.
Norton works for me, and of course, here is not the place to share user opinions. TechOutsider (talk) 23:29, 24 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: * See WP:TALKPAGE: "Article talk pages are provided for discussion of the content of articles and the views of reliable published sources. Talk pages should not be used by editors as platforms for their personal views nor should they be used as User pages."  FYI. DP76764 (Talk) 21:04, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Could someone add a "Criticisims" section to this article? Specifically, criticisims as to 1. Symantec's customer unfriendly and often very costly customer service. 2. "Norton" products are designed in such a way as to make it difficult for an average user to allow exceptions. 3. Norton Internet Security acts much like the malware it is supposed to detect and remove. It embeds itself into the registry of the PC and is not completely removed by its own uninstall program. The company was forced by lawsuits to offer a supplementary program to completely remove it. 4. Allegations that the 'Norton' family of products actively prevent silmutaneous use of a rival anti-virus software on a PC.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.96.106.130 (talk) 16:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticisim 

message: Sections seems to be a single incident, portraying only one side of the argument (and I believe is better described as a specific incident rather than indicative of their entire record.
Their own site seems to claim that they are trying to 'green up'
http://www.symantec.com/about/profile/responsibility/
http://www.symantec.com/about/news/release/article.jsp?prid=20090624_01
Wasteland Software (talk) 12:26, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Environmental Record 

message: Some of the listed controversies are not controversies, and very few explain why they're controversies in the first place. The latest one, for example, re: layoffs. We're left to assume it's a controversy because someone else said it's a bad business decision? That hardly seems like a controversy. Jvincep (talk) 17:16, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversies

message: I saw this in the edits that someone had undone.
"February 2013 Censorship of humanitarian websites
It was discovered that Norton Symantec had unilaterally decided to block access to websites across the world dedicated to help combat problems faced by men and boys. With no supporting evidence these sites were declared 'hate sites'. Some of the sites helped men cope with domestic abuse they were suffering or boys struggling with family and educational problems. One site was engaged in helping soldiers overcome the effects of Post Traumatic Stress and adapt to civilian life. Because of Symantec's insensitive stance many human rights campaigners called for a boycott of all Norton products"
I've heard they were being overzealous in their blocking but sounds like political censorship. Is there any more to this? Pleasetry (talk) 23:15, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: How does this pertain to improving this article?  Talk pages are not a forum for general Q&A discussion.  You may also want to try Google if you want information about whatever that happening was. DP76764 (Talk) 23:23, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Willful Censorship

message: The article says that all employees "went on the road, training and selling dealer sales staff". They were selling sales staff? What does that mean? 86.159.197.174 (talk) 13:41, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing sentence - what does it mean? 

message: How do you say that name? I'm guessing either like "Simon-Tek" or like "Semantic". Any hints? --79.218.107.252 (talk) 08:10, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think its pronounced Se-man-tec. see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDka7F7lOTE&feature=related at about 2:30 sec. --2.122.141.132 (talk) 19:04, 22 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Suh-man-tech is more accurate I believe. At least in American English. 198.6.33.13 (talk) 21:15, 19 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This article needs to be updated with the merger with Blue Coat (August 2016), which includes replacing Mike Brown with Blue Coat's CEO Greg Clark.
Here is the Wiki on Blue Coat: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Coat_Systems  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.192.194 (talk) 22:50, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article needs to be updated with the merger with Blue Coat and the New CEO 

message: Google is officially reporting a huge hole in Symantec certificate issuance, and is about to make their Chrome browser reject many Symantic certificates. See . John Nagle (talk) 18:09, 23 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Google about to start rejecting Symantec EV certificates. 

message: Symantec announced it's attention to acquire VeriSign Inc's identity and authentication business on May 19, 2010 for approximately $128 billion in cash. Source is available at: 
https://www.symantec.com/content/en/us/enterprise/other_resources/b-verisign_faq.pdf Kevinbbrown (talk) 07:53, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Already present in the article. -- Dane talk  20:34, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2017 

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message: I am affiliated with Symantec. I added about 20-30 press cites to the article to address the "needs additional citations for verification" tag and in the process noticed several errors / issues I cannot correct myself under WP:COI.
*"all Sygate personal firewall products were discontinued by Symantec,[35] and now appear[original research?] to be part of Norton Personal Firewall." Sygate was discontinued because of overlap with Norton, not in order to become a part of it. (source)
* The Lead reads like it's saying Veritas was created as a Symantec spin-off in 2016 and the Mergers and acquisitions/Veritas section later in the article (last sentence) reads like Symantec currently offers Veritas-brand products. Veritas was founded in 1983, acquired by Symantec in 2004, and sold to Carlyle group in 2016.(source). No Veritas products are currently sold by Symantec.
* There are several places in the article where content has the overt appearance of personal opinion or trivial news unlikely to be vindicated by sources and more likely to justify trimming:
::* "Soon after the merger, Eubanks and Raburn recruited Rod Turner into Symantec as its executive vice president for marketing . . ."
::* "Because all team members were sharing in the suffering of reduced income"
::* "The suit sparked renewed debate about the tactics used by some security software companies, which are similar to those used by crimeware.[citation needed]"
::* The article would be very strongly improved by doing a quick CNTRL-F for "solutions" with an eye towards trimming.
CorporateM (Talk) 14:38, 14 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Good luck. Codename Lisa (talk) 10:30, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrections / Misc. 

message: Change "Security softwares" to "Security software" in infobox. Software is uncountable. 83.33.35.75 (talk) 06:45, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done DRAGON BOOSTER  ★ 08:07, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 8 August 2017 

message: Please, remove the following statement as there is no reference for it: Netcraft assesses Symantec (including subsidiaries) as the most-used certification authority. Dniften (talk) 17:17, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Nihlus 18:44, 13 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2017 

message: Current text (in the lead): "The company produces software for security, storage, backup and availability - and offers professional services to support its software."
Proposed text: “The company provides cybersecurity software and services”
Reason: Symantec no longer sells "storage, backup, and availability" products, due to its Veritas business being sold-off.
CorporateM (Talk) 20:35, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Spintendo  ᔦᔭ  21:30, 15 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested Edit 

message: There is a spelling error. You have the sentence:-
"On January 4, 2018, Symentec and BT announced their partnership that provides new endpoint security protection."
I think it was meant to read:-
"On January 4, 2018, Symantec and BT announced their partnership that provides new endpoint security protection." Jamescollett (talk) 18:35, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done DRAGON BOOSTER  ★ 18:51, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 March 2018 

message: Change the number of employees to 12,518. The source of that information can be found here: https://www.symantec.com/content/dam/symantec/docs/reports/2017-corporate-responsibility-report-en.pdf 2607:F140:400:A016:C869:DFF6:A2A9:6227 (talk) 05:47, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done  —  IVORK Discuss 06:09, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 May 2018: Change the number of employees 

message: Under the History/2000 to present section the page has the following content near the end:
In May 2018 Symantec released a press release saying: "The Audit Committee of the Board of Directors has commenced an internal investigation in connection with concerns raised by a former employee regarding the Company's public disclosures including commentary on historical financial results, its reporting of certain Non-GAAP measures including those that could impact executive compensation programs, certain forward-looking statements, stock trading plans and retaliation. The Audit Committee has retained independent counsel and other advisors to assist it in its investigation. The Company has voluntarily contacted the Securities and Exchange Commission to advise it that an internal investigation is under way, and the Audit Committee intends to provide additional information to the SEC as the investigation proceeds." The stock lost about 1/3 of its value.
This relies primarily on Symantec's own press release and is a lot of detail on a recent news event for a page that summarizes the company's entire 35+ year history. Also, Wikipedia does not ordinarily cover the ups and downs of the stock market. I propose a more concise summary based on independent citations as a replacement: 
In May 2018, Symantec initiated an internal audit to address concerns raised by a former employee, causing it to delay its annual earnings report. Details have not yet been disclosed.
CorporateM (Talk) 16:51, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Regards,  spintendo  15:49, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internal Audit Content 

message: # I have swapped the prior text with this text only because the prior text was unreferenced. In the balance of things, this referenced text is preferable to the prior unreferenced text (which could have been removed simply for being unreferenced, without any replacement text).
# It goes without saying that the level of detail of the prior text had nothing to do with it being removed, as that level is easily comparable to dozens of other minutely-detailed sections in the article.
::Regards,  spintendo  15:49, 16 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 16-SEP-2018

message: At  "Google and Symantec clash on website security checks" it quotes "Certisign Certificatadora Digital" from TechCrunchhttps://techcrunch.com/2017/03/27/google-is-fighting-with-symantec-over-encrypting-the-internet/ which in turn quotes an email with a typohttps://groups.google.com/a/chromium.org/forum/#!msg/blink-dev/eUAKwjihhBs/i70m8ptvCQAJ. That email has a reference to Bugzillahttps://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1334377 with the correct name of the company, which is "Certisign Certificadora Digital". Please write the correct name in the article. 2804:214:810C:ED5:FDAF:E1C:62FA:645D (talk) 19:14, 13 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Certisign Certificadora Digital 

message: Hello,
Symantec owns the SurfEasy VPN Provider it has aquired from Otello Corp. (formerly Opera ASA).
Could you please insert this into the article?
[]
https://newsweb.oslobors.no/message/438013
Regards
--62.157.118.195 (talk) 08:00, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  SurfEasy VPN aquired from Otello Corp (formerly Opera ASA) 

message: Broadcom will acquire the Symantec name, the rest of Symantec will be named Norton then. Sarah2 (talk) 07:37, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: .  Please provide reliable source(s) for any claims, and please make a precise request giving the exact text to change or add, and where, etc. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 13:47, 12 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 12 August 2019 

message: In the sale of Symantec's Enterprise Security Assets to Broadcom,https://investor.nortonlifelock.com/About/Investors/press-releases/press-release-details/2019/Symantec-Completes-Sale-of-Enterprise-Security-Assets-to-Broadcom/default.aspx the business sold to Broadcom accounted for 50% of the company’s revenue.https://www.barrons.com/articles/symantec-broadcom-cybersecurity-nortonlifelock-deal-51572984849  It's unclear what the 50% which wasn't sold does, what it's called or who owns it.  Does it refer to the information management division (Veritas Technologies) which was split off in 2016, or some other continuing business which might deserve an article or at least a mention? Pinging . Certes (talk) 13:04, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  2019 sale 

message: Eh. Since when do we immediately leap to rename an article when the official name of a subject changes? There is no indication that after, what, 2 days(?) "NortonLifeLock" has become the commonname for this subject. Surely WP:COMMONNAME and WP:OFFICIALNAME would suggest that we should retain the existing/commonname as the title. And only change it when/if common-use changes. (Personally I think the recent move here was a little bit premature...) Guliolopez (talk) 13:31, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It's more than that.  The Symantec name was sold, but Symantec still exists and is now a division of Broadcom.  See https://www.symantec.com/theme/broadcom.  Symantec and NortonLifeLock need to be two separate articles, which seems like it will be a lot of work to do right. Dan Bloch (talk) 21:31, 7 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Immediate renames are actually very standard practice for Wikipedia articles on companies; in fact the very same day as this rename, the HCP, Inc. article was renamed (not by me) to the updated company's name, Healthpeak Properties, and there are many other examples. Point taken that the article separation needs to involve additional editing over the coming days, which I tried to start by having the Symantec article be a dab rather than just pointing here.  NortonLifeLock immediately became the WP:COMMONNAME in many reliable-source contexts: you won't find Symantec on any stock exchange, stock market index, or in the SEC Edgar database. UnitedStatesian (talk) 04:01, 8 November 2019 (UTC)

text: As we've (quite reasonably) broadened this discussion from common name to what still exists, can anyone answer my question in the preceding section?  I think that might help with article naming. Certes (talk) 11:43, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commonname 

message: change "headquartered in Mountain View, California" to "headquartered in Tempe, Arizona". 155.64.38.87 (talk) 16:17, 8 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sceptre (talk) 01:05, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 8 November 2019 

message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Fast Track (company). Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 13:03, 13 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Fast Track (company)" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: Update all the financial statements and employee figure in the infobox from the Annual Report 2020 source and don't forget to add the source. Thanks--103.102.116.123 (talk) 18:10, 26 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: . Edit requests are for requests to make precise edits, not general pleas for article improvement. –Deacon Vorbis (carbon • videos) 02:34, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

text: Update figures in infobox of employees 3,659 (2020), revenue $2.49 billion (2020), Operating income $869 million (2020), Net income $576 million (2020), Total Assets $7.73 billion (2020) and Equity $10 million (2020). Update all these figure and added the above source.--202.78.236.95 (talk) 21:02, 28 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 26 August 2020 

message: Update all the financial statements and employee figure in the infobox. Employees 3,659 (2020), revenue $2.49 billion (2020), Operating income $621 million (2020), Net income $578 million (2020), Total Assets $7.73 billion (2020) and Equity $10 million (2020). Add this Annual Report 2020 source. Thanks--202.78.236.33 (talk) 06:55, 13 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  would you please take this request and make necessary changes.--103.102.116.225 (talk) 17:13, 15 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , but please be more careful with your numbers in your edit request. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 14:31, 18 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for the update. Instead of mentioning "Fiscal 2020" in the infobox rather mention "2020" Check Microsoft. Secondly add "services" parameter and mention Computer security. Thanks--103.102.116.225 (talk) 06:55, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: . ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 13:47, 19 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 October 2020