Talk:Sex differences in medicine

message: I propose to remove the underlined text from the following bullet point under "Females":
:Ovarian cancer, endometriosis and other diseases of the female reproductive system occur mostly in women (except in the rare instances where other genders have said organs, such as trans men.)
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None of the sources are about the topic of sex differences. It is just an off-topic tangent of the sort that could be appended to any discussion of sex differences. There is no reason to shout-out different small subgroups like that here. We're obviously not going to add asides about gender identity to every point about sex differences, but keeping this makes it look like some do want that. Removing it in no way implies anything regarding any other text in the article present or future. There are much more weighty discussions going on above, and this text distracts from and confuses all of that. Crossroads -talk- 22:57, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say the compromise is to not mention gender at all. In fact, isn't that basically your position for other text - to separate sex and gender? Why not just say "female reproductive system" under the Females heading and be done with it? Crossroads -talk- 00:59, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: If we are talking about sex, then we shouldn't use the term "woman." That's my position. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 15:06, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

text: Noting here that Shibbolethink already elsewhere answered "no" to including this.  Crossroads -talk- 05:01, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't put words in my mouth. I reassess each situation as it comes, and offer compromises to try and achieve consensus, regardless of what I may personally feel about the answer. I would appreciate it if you struck this comment and allowed me to answer on my own. Thanks. — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 15:03, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

text: I suggested this previously except on a wider basis, that this article should only use male/female and avoid usage of man/woman altogether. Needless to say the discussion on that has been long.  Sideswipe9th (talk) 02:29, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It would adhere to the AMA's guidelines... The sex-gender language is outdated in social sciences (we use sex assignment at birth more often) but it's still normal in medical research. I think I argued for something like this on Wikipedia a long time ago... EvergreenFir (talk) 02:34, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: As a side point, just noting for the record that while that link does talk about "sex assigned..." in a transgender context, it does also simply state, . Crossroads -talk- 05:01, 22 December 2021 (UTC)

text: I'm confused. If it already says the diseases occur in the female reproductive system, is any further description necessary? Isn't it understood that only people with female reproductive systems can have those diseases? Female, women, or any other term would be redundant if so. Santacruz ⁂ Please ping me! 10:42, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: @A. C. Santacruz I think, likely, the issue to some users around here is the use of "female reproductive system" and then immediately after, "women" to refer to the same set of people.— Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 15:19, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Straw poll on removing side point about transgender identity from bullet point about female reproductive system 

message: This is with regards to the first sentences in the sections "Females" and "Males"
Options:
:(1) - Keep it as it is. (female humans  male humans)
:(2) - Link to the sex-based article (subsection on mammals) (1 link). (female humans  male humans)
:(3) - Link to the female and human articles (2 links) (female humans  male humans)
:(4) - Have no link. (female humans  male humans)
:(5) - change the plug to the gender-based term (women  men)
:(6) - Use 'females' and 'males' and link to 'Woman#Health' and 'no link'. (females  males)
Feel free to add your own options (directly below these), and please restrict your responses/discussion to this question whenever possible. Thanks — Shibbolethink (♔ ♕) 15:35, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Straw poll: Should "female human" link to [[woman]] and "male human" link to [[man]] ?