Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Mithgol

message: =====LJ in Russia=====
An average livejournal user in the Internet -- meaning the english-speaking part of it -- is some underaged emotional girl. I absolutely agree, that there is no reason for a WP article about such a user. However due to certain development livejournal is the blogging page for Russians. "LJ" and "Blog" are pretty synonyms out there. Of course there are some stand-alone blogs, but it is the recent development and livejournal keeps its position as "the blogpage", people just now, that there are some other blogs, than livejournal. --88.68.33.227 15:11, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Some Explanation

message: An average livejournal user in the Internet -- meaning the english-speaking part of it -- is some underaged emotional girl. I absolutely agree, that there is no reason for a WP article about such a user. However due to certain development livejournal is the blogging page for Russians. "LJ" and "Blog" are pretty synonyms out there. Of course there are some stand-alone blogs, but it is the recent development and livejournal keeps its position as "the blogpage", people just now, that there are some other blogs, than livejournal. --88.68.33.227 15:11, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: LJ in Russia

message: CrazyRussian sayed above that he is notable only for Russian-speaking people, but not for English-speaking countries. But English Wikipedia is not only for English-speaking countries! It's false! Russian Internet users use English Wikipedia very often, and they cite en-wiki approximately as ru-wiki, because of near 1,5 million English articles and because of almost 50% of Russian Internet users can read and understand English text.
So, CrazyRussian's sentence about non-notability for English Wikipedia is absolutely unreasoned! Anything notable for any of Wikipedia sites (i.e. in any language) is notable for English too. Why not? --Vlad Jaroslavleff 17:16, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. +1. Some russian users thinks that en-wiki more good than ru-wiki, and uses only en-wiki. And, as we know, Mithgol interacts with some english-speaking people, even with Livejournal maintainers, even with Brad Fitzpatrick, LiveJournal owner — surely, they may remember him. Only Mithgol can spam'em with "enlarge your ban_set value". 85.141.213.214 17:33, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Arguments: Russian vs English

message: One could have more results if he/she will search not only for "mithgol", but also for "мицгол", "митгол" and "митсгол" (i.e. Russian transliteration of this nickname). --Vlad Jaroslavleff 17:21, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But you've forgot "мизгол" too. 85.141.213.214 17:35, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh, thank you. I've corrected it. --Vlad Jaroslavleff 17:51, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Add.:  Mithgol actually acknowledges the other transliterations than , look at the settings of Mithgol's search engline RSS feed. (There is no reference at the page, that Mithgol himself created it, but it is so. I will provide reference, if someone wants it.) --88.68.33.227 17:54, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: About search engines

message: Let's take a look for search results in google (according to WP:GOOGLE):
* 36,800 for Simon Pulsifer
* only 756 (!!!) for Florence Nibart-Devouard
And compare them with
* 63,400 for Mithgol (with Russian transliterations) and 55,800 for Mithgol only (without Russian)
Impressive results, aren't they? --Vlad Jaroslavleff 17:31, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Add.:  Mithgol actually acknowledges the other transliterations than , look at the settings of Mithgol's search engline RSS feed. (There is no reference at the page, that Mithgol himself created it, but it is so. I will provide reference, if someone wants it.) --88.68.33.227 17:54, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Results comparison

message: Recently CrazyRussian posted an offensive text on my user talk page (diff).
"Poslushay, chto za hernyu ty nesesh'" (Russian) means "What the f*ck you talk about" or something like it.
Administrators, please take a look for him and take the necessary steps for preventing such behavior :( --Vlad Jaroslavleff 17:38, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Or something like it! :) - CrazyRussian talk/email 17:45, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

text: It actually means, "what is this drivel you're spewing". - CrazyRussian talk/email 17:54, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, "hernyu" is accusative case for "hernya" that is russian mat (i.e., coarse obscene word) meaning something f*cking useless (sorry) and it is very offensive. So, please give me your excuses. --Vlad Jaroslavleff 18:01, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: CrazyRussian's offensive behavior

message: Also, "мицгол" (mithgol) is a common noun in modern Russian Internet slang, used for designating an outlandish person with specific behavior.
A word "mithgol" is used to form noun verbs (to mithgolize - мицголить with more verb forms), derived nouns (like mithgoliosis - мицголиоз - the behavior when one acts the same way as Mithgol). --Vlad Jaroslavleff 17:42, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This does not deserve a page of its own. -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 18:45, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  But this is an established term! And he is the source for "commonning" of noun. --Vlad Jaroslavleff 18:57, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Then add it to a list of other terms, like "Язык падонков" or something else. -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 19:03, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Common noun

message: Mithgol is well-known not only in  Russian Wikipedia, but in Fidonet and Internet (not only in LiveJournal) for his excellent ideas and expressive (and sometimes eccenctric) actions.
About Russian Wiki's notability criterias: almost all of them was taken from English Wikipedia and justly translated. Generally, almost all rules and guidelines in Russian Wikipedia are simply the translations of corresponding English rules and guidelines.
--Vlad Jaroslavleff 17:49, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Notability