Talk:Inter-Cities Fairs Cup

message: * This article (UEFA Cup) is completely wrong, the Fairs Cup and the UEFA Cup are completely different, chech UEFA's official website to see this (http://www.uefa.com/Competitions/uefacup/History/index.html). As an example, check Barcelona's official trophy count (http://www.uefa.com/footballEurope/Club=50080/competition=1/index.html). As you can see, there are no UEFA Cups, nor Fairs Cup, as this was an unofficial competition. I think the article should be completely changed and only talk about the UEFA Cup. Then another one on the Fairs Cup could be done. Robert King.
* While I do not agree entirely with the above, I think the Fairs Cup deserves an article on its own. This competition had a different trophy and was run by differet organization. In the conclusion of this article it could then be made clear that the UEFA Cup was a successor competition. Djln--Djln 23:54, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Supporting comments for restarting article

message: This article mentions that the one club per city rule was abolished in the early 60s when Edinburh and Barcelona had two teams in the competition, however, the UEFA Cup article states that the rule was in effect until 1975 when Everton challenged it.  I also know that Clyde FC were prevented from competing in 1967 because of this rule.  So my question is, does anyone know when the rule would have been reinstated or perhaps it wasn't an official rule until some time after the early 60s?--Largo1965 15:41, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In 1965/66 both Barcelona and Espanyol played in this cup. I think this rule was unofficial. --79.11.135.94 (talk) 20:54, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  One Club Per City 

message: FC Barcelona did not participate in the Cup's first edition. Barcelona participated as city, including, as mentioned in the article one player from Español. Please correct the name of the winner of the 1st edition in 1958. 
In fact, Barcelona dressed with the city' logo.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.49.205.83 (talk) 19:46, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  CF Barcelona did not win the 1st edition 

message: Good evening, I note that the FIFA recognizes the Fairs Cup trophy as specifically as you can see on the FIFA website, here are the sources with the links: http http://es.fifa.com/newscentre/news/newsid=1040575.html : / / es.fifa.com / classicfootball / clubs / club = 44217/index.html http://www.fifa.com/classicfootball/clubs/club=44217/ http://www.fifa.com/classicfootball/ clubs / club = 32847th / How obvious it is official pages of the Site where FIFA official honors in Barcelona, Valencia and Arsenal, both in English and Spanish, the Fairs Cup is included in Palmares officer with the words (now Europe League). UEFA FIFA as part of the unknown. Stanley Rous became President of FIFA in '61 true at giorganizzata Fairs Cup, but '55 was the President of FIFA Executive Commettee (as well as the powerful English FA); http://www.storiedicalcio.altervista .org / coppa_fiere / coppa_fiere_introduzione.html then proceeds with the restoration of the version of article previously deleted.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.152.22.126 (talk) 19:17, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the Fairs Cup was an official competition recognised by FIFA. I think maybe you don't understand the sentence you deleted. It just explains what UEFA think about the Fairs Cup: that they don't count it in their records precisely because it wasn't their competition. I think an article about the Fairs Cup needs to give UEFA's opinion, it doesn't matter if we agree with it or not. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 20:15, 18 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Officially Inter-City Fairs Cup by FIFA 

message: Hi there,
pls correct the winner list. The city of Barcelona won the first title (not the FC Barcelona club).
References : http://hemeroteca.mundodeportivo.com/preview/1958/05/02/pagina-1/646138/pdf.html
Extract : "La seleccion de Barcelona"
Barcelona participated as a City, not as a club. Moreover, a player from club Espagnol played for "Barcelona".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.164.17.208 (talk) 23:28, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Barcelona vs FC Barcelona correction 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In case further reversions occurred, I will put here a two links demonstrating how FIFA considers the Inter-Cities Fairs Cup as a major honour: 1 and 2. --Tanonero (msg) 20:44, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inter-Cities Fairs Cup 

message: The  parameter is purely for the geographical region from which the tournament draws its participants, and the  parameter is for who runs it. It's actually misused on confederation-run competitions to include the confederation name bracketed, as , contrary to the documentation which uses the UEFA Champions League as its example with  and .
If the organising body for the Fairs Cup had a name or acronym that'd be informative in context of the brief overview that is an infoboxi.e. something more than Fairs Cup Organising Committeeit'd happily belong in the  parameter. But it doesn't, so is probably better dealt with in the prose. Plenty of competitions e.g. Mitropa Cup, Anglo-Italian Cup, just leave it blank as this one does.
Misusing the  parameter to highlight who the competition wasn't sanctioned by, especially at a time when confederations sanctioning competitions wasn't really a thing, seems to be giving undue weight to a fact that's already covered in the lead section right next to the infobox. cheers, Struway2 (talk) 15:53, 10 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organising body in infobox 

message: Please see thread #1955-58 Cup above, where the stable format was settled on.
The first edition of the Fairs Cup was for representative teams entered by cities with trade fairs, and not for football clubs. Some cities like London picked players from several different clubs. Others, like Barcelona, wanted to select from all the bigger clubs from that city but were unable to do so, and so were represented by players from FC Barcelona. The city of Barcelona's representative team won that first edition. As the competition became club-based, the win attached to FC Barcelona because it had supplied the players.
Be interested to hear your reasoning for repeatedly removing that information from the reader? cheers, Struway2 (talk) 13:31, 16 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeated removal of mention of Barcelona XI from list of finals 

message: A table of Performance in finals by club is fairly standard for most competition overview articles. However, the recently added Performance in semi-finals by club (LINKED HERE) is certainly not standard, and in my opinion is a step too far.
It's currently collapsed, which goes against the Manual of Style (see MOS:DONTHIDE). When visible it displays a lengthy list which I'd guess wouldn't be of interest to most readers, and highlights clubs' appearances in finals, which just duplicates content from the Performance in finals table. If there were a spin-off stats and records article (which I'm not advocating}, it would belong quite happily in that, but it's just too much information for a main article (see WP:NOTSTATS). cheers, Struway2 (talk) 12:10, 23 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Club performance in semi-finals 

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message: The introduction claims that from 1964 onward teams qualified based off league position yet in 1968 Newcastle entered the tournament after coming only 10th in the english first division so clearly league position is not the whole story. Firestar47 (talk) 16:33, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Qualifying