Talk:Brooke Logan

message: THe changes to the article were an improvement but it's still mostly an in-universe summary of what's happened to the character on the show.  There is no information about casting, character portrayal, real world cultural impact.  And we only have two references so I switched to the refimprove tag.  Millahnna (talk) 01:10, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the article still needs work and still needs more references. But isn't the trouble with the in-universe style corrected? The verb tense is now correct. And even though the brief plot summary has only a few scattered out-of-universe notes (such a 2001 retcon), plot summaries in themselves are not forbidden or considered in-universe, are they? -- JustinSpurlin (talk) 01:15, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the fact that it's pretty much only plot stuff that makes it a problem.  In the tag itself, there's a link to a description of the concept that explains it better than I ever could (though I've got some examples of stuff we could look for above).  What you did today is an improvement, though, no doubt at all.  I haven't followed the show closely in a long time but I'm assuming there are some interviews in some of the soap mags that we could dig up to cover some stuff.  Millahnna (talk) 01:42, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, at least the tag will encourage others to find some out-of-universe information on this character. I don't have any access to old soap magazines, but those who do would being doing Wikipedia a favor by digging them out and using them to add worthwhile information to these soap articles. I also hope certain editors will stop fighting attempts to acknowledge that the histories of these characters have been frequently revised. But even the information in the Infoboxes subtly undermines that effort. To say that certain characters are deceased or that they are former this or ex- that, pretends that the characters have current lives with actual pasts. Granted, it's useful to know what characters are dead, and what jobs characters no longer have, as per the current episode of shows that are currently running. But it would be better if we said things like dead on May 21, 2001 episode; revised history: 1999; or off-screen marriage 1960; later revised to 1957. These characters, like all fictional characters, exist in a perpetual present.-- JustinSpurlin (talk) 14:37, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I feel you.  Longstanding problem with the infoboxes on other tv projects I poke at with more depth.  I only ending up adding this to my watchlist because of a conversation about the page being a problem.  We've run into the same thing on the Buffy project though.  Something about those fields make some people feel like they should be all filled out with in-show stuff instead of the real world stuff.  I like the idea of phrasing you introduce, particularly for soaps where characters dying repeatedly happens a fair amount.  I wonder if it would look too bulky in the box.  Millahnna (talk) 17:14, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Readded the tags 

message: So much discussion and there only two offline sources were added - yet there are no online sources provided on this character entry.. There are so many - I've pulled up four in under three minutes.
* - Interview with KKL and has information for characterisation, Lang's approach to portraying the character etc
* - This is pay-walled but it can be used for casting informtion about Ferguson taking over the role.
* - Has some information about the reinvention of the Logans
* - Has real world information and quotes about the Brooke/Ridge pairingRaintheOne BAM 04:51, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

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message: Brooke didn't have relationship with Thorne and Nick. She was married to them. Her marriage to Thorne was invalid. She was happy cause it meant she could wed Ridge despite telling Macy she and Thorne were soul mates after jumping uninvited into Macy's car and harassing her til the car crashed killing Macy but Brooke walked away uninjured. 174.215.220.234 (talk) 15:26, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brooke Logan