Talk:Metrosideros excelsa

message: So Christmas and December have come around again, alongside the flowering of our native "Christmas Tree". Having seen the recent featured article for the Australian "Banksia brownii" shrub (on Dec 24th), I thought that as a country we could do one better, and planned to nominate the Pohutukawa tree  as a coming featured article. Sadly however, though this article is very high quality, I found that the entry for our Pohhutukawa just doesn't quite meet Wiki's criteria for nominating a featured article, so I held back making a nomination. The point to this story? I believe that with a rewrite to enhance/improve some of the language and style features of this article, alongside more infomation, citations and references, this could become a featured article on the main page, if not in this December then at least by Christmas Day 2007. Therefore I propose that the goal of editing this article should become the eventual attainment of "featured article status", something that can be achieved through dedicated casual editors, possibly through the members of groups like Project Crimson. The benefits of doing so are pretty clear: recognition for one of NZ's national icons, informing the world about this beautiful plant under threat, and of course, one up on the Aussies. So what you think? Too far-fetched, or definitly a possibility? Post in the talk page and after new years holiday I'll check back and email Project Crimson. (Please feel free to contact them yourself or keep on editing!)
P.S. Great job to the editors (especially Kahuroa) who have already made this article what it is today
Ca7ch 06:03, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea. Simpson 2005 (which I have) contains a wealth of really detailed information about Pōhutukawa and related trees - a really valuable source of info. I think we should also look at improving the articles about the Rāta trees as well - eg the Northern Rāta, as a 'strangler' is a very interesting tree. Might be worth working on improving the Metrosideros article at the same time. The main authors of that article might be able to provide improvements/and or other sources for this one. Kahuroa 08:10, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Goal for this article?

message: We _really_ need a citation for the claim that "San Francisco's Friends of the Urban Forest estimates that it is the third-most-commonly planted street tree in San Francisco over the last two decades." I've scoured the net for a reference but have been unable to find one. Maybe it appeared in the print media? Unsigned comment by Stuartyeates 09:03, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The claim is long gone from our article, but FWIW I've come across the results of a tree survey which say something vaguely similar. It looked at 3,856 street trees planted in San Francisco from 1987 to 1996 by Friends of the Urban Forest, and found that pohutukawa were the second most commonly planted species. They were the most popular street tree at the beginning of that period, but had fallen from favour by 1992-1993. --Avenue (talk) 08:34, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation Needed

message: I was in NZ and was wondering what type of this tree (third picture down with the boy inside the tree) An American's perspective on New Zealand is. It was on Waiheke island outside of Auckland. On the Talk:New Zealand page several thought it wasn't a Kouri; another thought it was a macrocarpa; but then others concluded it was probably a Pohutukawa (Christmas-type tree flowering red in December right?). --Tomwsulcer (talk) 12:52, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think anyone will be able to give you a definitive answer from the photo. The bark matches the bark of Pohutukawa, but while the leaves certainly match Pohutukawa in all the important details they are out of focus, which makes a 100% answer unlikely. Certainly the leaves seem to be the right shape, they are the leaves of a broadleafed tree rather than a conifer, but unless you have an overall shot of the tree or a sharp focus one of the leaves there's not much more that can be said. Nothing matches Kauri (a conifer rather than a broadleafed tree) which branches high above the ground, and the leaves of macrocarpa (also a conifer) are very distinctive, and nothing like the ones in the photo. Pohutukawa are also a common street tree in that part of NZ, especially in coastal and island places. Kahuroa (talk) 06:26, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Kahuroa. There had been talk on the Talk:New Zealand page that it wasn't a kouri, possibly a macrocarpa, and most likely (?) a pohutukawa, so I changed the caption to reflect our best guess. Appreciate your comment.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 15:31, 11 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Is this a pohutukawa tree

message: *Support COMMONNAME is what makes this a very clear candidate for a move. Schwede66 08:02, 26 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: The article currently states: 
In coastal California, it is a popular street and lawn tree, but has caused concern in San Francisco where its root systems are blamed for destroying sewer lines and sidewalks.
The article gives an authoritative reference from 2010.  I live near San Francisco.  For new plantings, one possibility is that a cultivar exists which doesn't have this problem; but the article doesn't mention any.  I took  a quick search of the article from 2010 in New Zealand Garden Journal, without finding any useful info on this point.  If someone can provide such info, some readers might find it useful. Oaklandguy (talk) 23:00, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  As a tree for planting in sidewalks and yards: Problem with roots 

message: I just found an article in a San Francisco newspaper. According to this article, this tree should be frequently pruned.  If this is done, roots are much less of a problem; also, the pruning has other advantages. Oaklandguy (talk) 07:43, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maybe the answer is frequent pruning? 

message: Source is Urban Forest Ecosystems Institute  Oaklandguy (talk) 07:59, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  And here's a source saying "Root Damage Potential Rated as Moderate." 

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message: I am about to change the word pohutukawa to pōhutukawa throughout the article as that is the original te reo Māori word for this tree that had its common spelling changed to pohutukawa, but pōhutukawa is now most-commonly used, by, for example: the Department of Conservation (New Zealand) here, Project Crimson here, Te Ara: The Encyclopedia of New Zealand here, Forest & Bird , NZ Herald here, Stuff (company) here Radio New Zealand here and TVNZ here. Te reo Māori place names have macrons on Wikipedia, and flora and fauna are now being changed, for example: kōwhai, tūī, kererū, kōkako and wētā.
E James Bowman (talk) 04:25, 18 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changed to common macron inclusion. 

message: Every article about other plants includes a section on the fruit or seed, method of propagation.  Why not this one?  74.127.201.139 (talk) 22:26, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fruit?  Seeds?