Talk:Betting strategy

message: This article is too short, too vague, and doesn't include citations. If it's not expanded and made encyclopedic, it should probably just be deleted. I don't have time to do it myself right now, but maybe someone else wants to step up and expand and improve the article? Rray 14:35, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've done some copyediting, but I'm still unsure if the subject of this article is notable enough to warrant an article of its own. Rray 04:31, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: I have no idea where the author originally got the idea a d'Alembert is an "up as you win" progression but it is the exact opposite as it is a negative progression.  What is listed on the main page is a contra-d'Alembert.
Surebettor (talk) 00:23, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  A bit of mis-information 

message: I tagged the article because large amounts of text (such as in Labouchère system section) are copy/pasted from gambling websites. Please see WP:COPYVIO for more info, and take the time to rewrite these sections in your own words. --| Uncle Milty | talk | 22:08, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, the language is very worrisome in many of these descriptions. It suggests that they work. I think the additions should be removed.Objective3000 (talk) 12:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright violations 

message: I have re-edited as much as possible, to state in my own words how each system works. If there are still unacceptable portions, please specify and I will endeavor to amend until appropriate. - (92.233.225.132 (talk) 13:11, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There are serious problems with these descriptions. They keep giving examples of "profit." There are numerous examples of winning, not losing. They suggest you can "protect your bankroll." It is stated that you can "quit whilst ahead." It is suggested one strategy is better than the others. One topic is even written inthe first person discussing how the system has been successfully used in a casino. This is giving credence to gambling system scams sold all over the Internet. These are well-known gambling frauds presented as if they are scientifically useful methods of betting.Objective3000 (talk) 18:51, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not that I disagree with what you have said, but you can't discuss a betting system without showing possible profit and loss from using that system, and you can't really discuss betting systems without showing how specific systems work (which is why there is not much information on the restored version). Whether these systems are scams sold to the foolish or an actual technique used to create an edge, these are still recognized systems which people will look for information on. - (92.233.225.132 (talk) 21:30, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Which doesn't mean this is the place for it.  A single line covers the topic: "many fraudulent betting sytems exists" or "many betting systems that lose money exist".  It's not our mission one way or another to discuss all the specific ones, in this article especially.  Matingale for instance has its own article.  We only deal with notable, verifiable stuff in the Wikipedia. 2005 (talk) 21:39, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Content clean up