Talk:High School Musical 3: Senior Year/Archive 1

message: None of the articles currently listed as references mention cast, writers or directors.  In fact, all they say is 'this is happening' and it will be an 'experience' in 2008.  If you can't cite where you're sure Kenny Ortega etc are working on this, then you are speculating and you shouldn't put it in an article. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 13:23, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cite your sources please 

message: According to Just Jared, Filming is set to begin in January, however this does not mean that any of the people have signed on as this is not known.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.140.108.117 (talk) 20:16, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filming Date 

message: All citations except Lucas Grabeel's, state this movie will be called 'Haunted High School Musical.'  And Lucas said his comment about a junior prom was maybe, kinda, sorta, if they get around to it. Which makes it unreliable and not something we should put in.  As for IMDb, they're not reliable in this either.  It's premature to assume they're right, when they don't even cite a source. Find a news article, please, or leave it out for now. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 13:15, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: UNLESS you can provide a CITATION calling this High School Muscial 3, please leave the title alone.  Also, if you can't cite that Kenny Ortega is the director, which none of the currently listed citations can, then please don't add it.  This isn't rocket surgery, people. -- Ipstenu (talk • contribs) 16:10, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  IMDB and Movie Title 

message: I have a question, if it says Lucas said there's not a script written down, then how can there be a cast?  And I read the reference where it says they've all signed, but I can't seem to find it, all I see is that everything is still in talks.  Can someone please clarify, because if not, I'm going to delete the cast section.  JpGrB 00:57, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They could likely have done casting beforehand.  WAVY 10 13:20, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast 

message: Why was the part about how it used to be "Haunted High School Musical" deleted?  Wouldn't that be a good thing to have, to explain it a little bit?  --JpGrB
:Maybe if we have more detailed information.  WAVY 10 19:42, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haunted deleted 

message: Where did that title come from?  WAVY 10 13:56, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know! HSM2 was rumored to be called "High School Musical 2: Sing It All Or Nothing" but that was dropped. I think that this one will be dropped also.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.236.165.20 (talk) 18:24, August 20, 2007 (UTC) 
High school musical 3 has not come out it might not even come out so theres nothing for you to look at  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 213.162.112.237 (talk) 16:18, August 21, 2007 (UTC) 
After the cable records the predecessor set, I'd feel pretty confident there will be a sequel.  WAVY 10 18:25, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  HSM3: Gradu-Dancing??? 

message: Charisma Carpenter is confirmed to join the cast, but won't be an lead role, her caracter is an teacher at East High, her character name will be Ms. Stone.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 76.6.164.127 (talk) 21:31, August 23, 2007 (UTC) 
:Says who? Dh993 21:41, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Charisma Carpenter]] 

message: How can someone know the tracklisting if we don't if the movie is going to go a head at all. Can someone please put a source that proves the Tracklisting and if all the characters are returning.
~Headstrong 345~
:I left a note on the editor in question's page advising him to provide a source or it would be removed...which I have just removed.  WAVY 10 19:08, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soundtarck Listing Already? 

message: The Info From Life & Style Should Not Be Added. Life & Style Is A Rag Mag And Is As Reputable As Asking A Hobo On The Street.--Jwein 17:49, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I respectfully disagree. Whether or not Life & Style is a "rag mag", I think the information is relevant - especially since it's already up in the air as to whether or not HSM3 will take place. Dh993 20:18, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Life & Style Info 

message: While the movie was still titled Haunted High School Musical, it was stated that during the production of HSM2, a song named "Spooky" was recorded for the 3rd movie, and I don't think that they'd scrap a recorded song. Couldn't it be stated that it might be a bonus track on the soundtrack?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by REBA IS FUNNY16 (talk • contribs) 20:02, August 29, 2007 (UTC) 
:Assuming there is any truth to that, I would think so.  WAVY 10 20:05, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: HSM3 hasn't even been confirmed yet, so for a song to already be recorded seems very unlikely. As for whether or not it (whatever "it" is, since I haven't even heard of "Spooky" until just now) "might" be a bonus track - there could be a lot of songs that "might" be a bonus track. Dh993 20:15, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spooky? 

message: I find it hard to believe that the plot of the movie has already been put on here when we don't even know if this movie is even going to go through yet so I think that it should be removed. Headstrong 345 03:06, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot Info Realsed Already? 

message: First of all, I'd just like to say all of the personal attacks are getting ridiculous. Grow up, guy.
My main point is this: the last major paragraph (if we can even call it that) is lifted from the BuddyTV.com source - VERBATIM. I'm pretty sure that lowers Wikipedia in general to have such blatant copyright infringement. Even with a footnote citation, you're supposed to put it in quotation marks (if it's a word-for-word quote) or paraphrase it.
It needs to be fixed. SkittlzAnKomboz 02:25, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paraphrase, people!!! 

message: Umm... there is no proof that there is even a High School Musical 4 in the works, so please do not list it under the "followed by" category. Besides, how will they make a HSM4 if this is their senior year? Thanks. WriterFromAfar755 03:49, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It could focus on other kids in high school. 69.125.25.64 03:08, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Could" is the key-word there. See WP:CRYSTAL. Dh993 03:25, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: there will be a HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL 4!! PLEASE PUT FOLLWOED BY HIGH SCHOOL MUSICAL 4  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elias1richa (talk • contribs) 21:48, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please provide something written in some reliable website or news publication WP:RS that supports what you assert and it can be added to the article. We can't just take your word on it. --NrDg 21:55, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You guys must be dumb, THERE WILL BE NO HSM 4 because this is their LAST YEAR AT EAST HIGH!!!!!!!!!!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.67.128.65 (talk) 21:39, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It could be another summer themed movie, such as High School Musical 2. But as this movie isn't confirmed yet, it shouldn't be worried about now.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chiosu (talk • contribs) 21:54, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

text: As they were juniors in the first two, I think the graduation ceremony will occur in this one.  WAVY 10 Fan 16:46, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There anit no hsm4 beacause the third one is when they the graduate.(MC RIDE (talk) 23:34, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  High School Musical 4 

message: How can there be a Wikiquote for a movie that hasn't even gotten all the cast together, let alone hasn't filmed yet?  WAVY 10 12:16, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikiquote 

message: Shouldn't there be a citation about Zac Efron confirming the reprised roles on the show?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.236.165.20 (talk) 01:13, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Richard & Judy 

message: Can either of these paragraphs be verified?
:"Later Zac Efron behind the scene was demanding high amounts of money in comparison to the rest of the group.  One inside Disney executive said Zac Efron wanted more than the other 5 main cast members combined.  Disney has not yet made a final descion on this case but has made it clear that Disney will not hesitate to remove Zac Efron from the cast if he does not accept what Disney offers him."
:"It is unclear whether or not Disney will allow Vanessa Anne Hudgens to play a role in the film, with regards to the leaking of nude photos of her."
Considering the recent controversy surrounding Hudgens, I think the second one could be a factor, but if Disney does not allow Vanessa to be featured for those reason and/or Zac for contract issues, I would have a hard time believing the film will see the light of day, so can someone find a cite before I removed one or both paragraphs.  WAVY 10 18:32, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development... 

message: it says that fliming for HSM 3 is to being in March 2008. so does that mean that all the oringal cast have confirmed that they are coming back? If not I highly doubt that they will have already set a production date already because they haven't even decided on a script. Headstrong 345 23:26, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, HSM3 has not been confirmed yet. That was just a piece of unsourced info. which I took the liberty of removing. Dh993 23:47, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Production will start in march 2008 not filming so this means getting the script down and cast confirmed. Amstoakes 21:25, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fliming Production already announced? 

message: Again, there appears to be a plot on the page. I (like Headstrong 345) find it hard to believe that there has been a plot released for this movie (with characters) when we don't even know if this movie is going to be made yet. Should it be removed? Dave! Dsgtrain 19:18, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you're referring to this edit, I reverted it since it is completely fictional and provides no basis. I also moved the article back to its original name. Dh993 19:38, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot realeased? 

message: How come so much information for the development has been left out? Numerous articles report that Zac and other castmates were holding out for more money, like [this one]. Also, there have been reports about Adrienne Bailon replacing Vanessa, which is obviously a rumor, but we can state as a rumor, not as a fact. Snoborder93 02:51, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The reports regarding salary disputes were disregarded by Zac Efron. The Adrienne Bailon report is a ridiculous report started by gossip magazines. If Hudgens or some other reliable source (not gossip bloggers) make note of Adrienne Bailon replacing Hudgens, then we will also so note it in the article. Dh993 03:18, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah that's true. People Magazine is the only tabloid I really trust and since Vanessa has been in like every issue this past month, and they haven't said anything about it, I guess it's not true. When did Zac disregard the reports? And even so, that doesn't mean Ashley and Vanessa weren't asking for more money, like they did for the second one. Snoborder93 05:00, 22 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I believe that the Bailon replacing Vanessa but is ridiculous, and doesn't belong in this article as per the fact that Wikipedia is not a crystal ball. "Wikipedia is not a collection of unverifiable speculation." Although there is a source saying that it can be potentially true, that source is speculating which, in Wikipedia, makes it invalid unless there's reliable non-speculative sources such as a statement made by the people behind the movie. In any case, I believe that doesn't belong in the article quite yet. -- Python (Talk to me!) 15:04, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, the only thing I would be able to say, just to play devil's advocate, would be to mention in the section where it states Vanessa won't be replaced was that Disney was thinking about Bailon.  (If, in fact they were thinking about her.)  JpGrB 15:21, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Disney's official statement referenced in the article addressing the speculation is sufficient as of now. We don't want to report details. No need to help spread rumors and gossip in a wiki article. Leave that to the gossip magazines. --NrDg 16:15, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with   JpGrB - and thanks for playing devil's advocate. Mentioning the Bailon consideration by Disney, who now seems to be sticking to their star Hudgens, puts a proper end to this (hopefully) and makes the section more fully rounded. I have attempted a rewrite in this fashion.Smatprt 16:21, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I strongly disagree with adding anything more than what Disney has officially stated. No matter how this is written the source is still only a mention of gossip with NO source other than speculation that has been refuted by Disney. Adding speculation to this article adds nothing. The article is about a planned movie, not about malicious gossip that won't go away. --NrDg 16:34, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I like and agree with the current edit made. Thanks for helping out and sharing your ideas on this article, everyone. -- Python (Talk to me!) 19:24, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry - did disney refute the Bailon consideration? And are we ony putting in what disney "officially" says? Is there some allegiance to Disney that we are part of? If Hudgons' job was in jeopardy and if Disney did consider other performers, why is that not newsworthy? Did Disney back off from their super-clean image due to the commercial realities of losing Hudgons, as implied in the article referenced? And isn't this whole article gossip based since there is no actual movie deal that has been finalized?Smatprt 06:22, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Disney said nothing about the content of any of its internal discussions - they did state the conclusion of the discussions. See http://www.reuters.com/article/televisionNews/idUSN0746838620070908 cited in the article "A Disney representative said the photo would not affect its decision to cast Hudgens". I also tried to verify the BuddyTV article about an insider at US Weekly. There is nothing that I could find at either the US Weekly site or US Magazine site as used as sources for the BuddyTV article. See http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrities/vanessa_hudgens. I think Disney might have been throwing around names as internal speculation on what to do and Disney was probably considering replacing Hudgens but decided not to. Reports of unnamed sources at some other magazine are just a bit too indirect to be considered a reliable source by wiki rules. The article as it stands now does give the current verifiable status as of now and does address the rumor of a replacement. It adds nothing to the article to NAME one of the possibilities that MIGHT have been considered. Again this is an article about a planned movie. Yeah a lot is speculative but, in my opinion, the naming of a rumored replacement for one of the main actors is going too far. --NrDg 16:05, 24 September 2007 (UTC)

text: The National Enquirer (although not very reliable) said an insider told them Adrienne was asked to dye her hair darker for the part. Normally I would not believe this, but they are the ones who first reported the nude pictures. I think it's worth mentioning that her nude photos lead to speculation of her replacement by Adrienne Bailon. Snoborder93 23:11, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To quote Robby Stewart from Hannah Montana: "Even a blind pig occasionally snorts up a truffle" with respect to the National Enquirer. Still not a reliable source we should use. The unnamed insider quoted by an unreliable, known to make things up, paper is pretty meaningless. I think the National Enquirer just as likely made the whole thing up as a reasonable conjecture and planted the whole rumor. The unnamed insider could also be Adrienne's agent for all we know, just to get her name considered. I still say too unreliable and doesn't add anything to this article even if true. If she were STILL under consideration and we could back it up, THEN it would add to the article. --NrDg 00:47, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development incomplete? 

message: There are some articles recently saying that Efron and Hudgens may not do HSM3, since Disney offered them only $1 million. Is that worth mentioning?I can clarify that HSM3 will be realesed on 10th October 2008--Hagi94 18:07, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is already mentioned in the article. --NrDg 18:18, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I wrote that in August. I think it's been incorporated since.. Dh993 21:12, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New article 

message: Wasn't it confirmed once before that it would not be called Haunted High School Musical?  At this moment, I can not find the exact source, but if I'm not mistaken, it was deleted from this article because it was later found to be proven false.  This is why I recently deleted it.  If someon can help with this issue, we can figure out whether or not to delete it from this article.  JpGrB 20:14, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haunted, again 

message: There’s no denying the popularity of High School Musical. The made-for-TV musical’s success has led to a second made-for-TV movie, an attraction at the
 Disney parks, and even plans for a theatrical third chapter. Earlier this year it was announced that High School Musical 3 would hit big screens instead
 of the little one, and would center around the kids’ adventure in a haunted house. 
The title: Haunted High School Musical. That doesn’t seem to be the case anymore, however. 
TV Guide has announced that plans for a third High School Musical have changed. No, this isn’t because the second telefilm didn’t quite live up to the first one, and no you’re not getting out of going to theaters. There will still be a High School Movie theatrical experience for families to both enjoy and suffer through. It just won’t be about a haunted house. 
Instead High School Musical 3 will center around “the fast-growing ‘kids’ senior year.” Presumably this will include senior prom and graduation, and will probably see the kids going their separate ways at the movie closes… unless they go off to college together, in which case we can expect “College Musical” in just a few years. And, this is Disney, who loves to milk a franchise to death, so I would expect to see exactly that happen.
Taken from a website        Northern Ireland 20:16 3/10/07    Eva  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.182.202 (talk) 
:Taken from this website, you mean? How reputable of a source is this, though? Reported by whom, etc. And please sign your comments. Dh993 19:20, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Haunted High School Musical 

message: I did some adds and got deleted why?
InoLove  —Preceding unsigned comment added by InfoLove (talk • contribs) 01:47, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I took them away because they weren't formatted correctly, and Trivia is discouraged.  Sorry. :(  JpGrB 02:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  HELP ME 

message: According to this week's issue of OK magazine, HSM3 begins filming in January. This article also mentions that Ryne Sanborne is also in talks for the film, in addition to the main cast. I'm not quite sure how to cite a magazine on this website so if anybody knows how to or can find an internet source. Snoborder93 17:37, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: i dont know how to cite magazines. other articles say something like "according to ..." or something like that. i couldnt find an internet source but i saw the article your talking about. its like a little snipet, right? like 1/4 of a page?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.6.138.127 (talk) 16:18, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if I'm not mistaken, if one of you can maybe upload a picture of the article (with the text stating so), to a picture hosting website, then you can use that link as a ref.  I believe this is acceptable.  And, if one of you could do this, that would be great for the page.  JpGrB 17:22, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay I'll try and pretend I know how to work my scanner and hopefully I'll get somewhere, lol. I just have to look through my huge stack of magazines. Oh and yes, the little "snippet" is what I was referring to.Snoborder93 01:30, 8 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Wanna provide a cite...or a date, since there's a week and a half left in the month.  WAVY 10 Fan 13:53, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filming in January 

message: Why interwikis and categories don't show in this article? Slade (TheJoker) 21:28, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. The last comment before the list was not closed turning the lists into just comments. --NrDg 21:46, 6 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  IWs and cats 

message: "And Zac Efron will return to the "HSM" set despite rumors that he would be missing from the final film. Director Kenny Ortega set the record straight, announcing that all original cast members are on board for the third film."
Martinez, J. (2007). Daily Entertainment Break: Vanessa Hudgens tells all about 'HSM 3'. Retrieved December 1, 2007, from http://www.mercurynews.com/restaurants/ci_7602738.
121.216.122.41
so this is a sure thing then that all of the oringal cast is back? from what I heard thats not the case but that was until I read the source given above but can it possibliy be wrong? Headstrong 345 19:48, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "all original cast members are on board for the third film" 

message: Should this even be included as a reference, as it is a rumor at this point?  WAVY 10 13:36, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Technically, it doesn't matter if the characters graduate. The fourth movie could always introduce a new cast (as much as that would suck). here's an article from the writer of the first 3 movies discussing the fourth and fifth movies. This article also has Kenny Ortega saying that the franchise may move to anew generation. I think it's safe to be that High School Musical 3 is not the last we'll see of the franchise. But as to if we should include it in the article, I don't know. It's not hardly relavent, but it is notable.Snoborder93 (talk) 23:08, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  HSM IV 

message: Im Vanessa Hudgens im gonna erase thate paragraph about me and my nude scandal.Ok!.By I am not a member of wikipeida though just saying.66.217.176.2 (talk) 02:54, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The above poster is on an ISP in Newburgh, NY, US. --NrDg 03:09, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Doesn't matter either way but extremely doubtful. Even if true, can't just delete cited information that is uncomplimentary. That is what OTRS is for. --NrDg 22:27, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Execuse MeNrDg,I erased iy because Im trying to erase the apperance of my nude scandal. 66.217.176.6 (talk) 22:56, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just ignore the person above me, whether or not she really is vanessa hudgens because we cannot just delete some proof, okay? btw, i saw a pix of zac efron with a HSM 3 script. it was in a teen magazine. tiger beat i think? can somebody found out? thanks :)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.226.186.96 (talk) 01:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hi! 

message: It says that they have rounded up the cast to do the flim. if so there should be a confirmed cast on this article. So I'm going to put one up and I ask that no one erase it please. Thanks
Headstrong 345 (talk) 04:13, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast Confirmed? 

message: sorry I deleted the Vanessa hudgens nude scandal by accident when I was trying to put on the cast. not sure what to put there about it now. REALLY SORRY DIDN'T MEAN TOO.
Thanx
Headstrong 345 (talk) 04:29, 28 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Messed Up 

message: Variety has an article reporting the full name of the movie will be 'High School Musical 3: Senior Year.' I probably jumped the gun on the HSM infobox, but once this page can actually be moved, I suggest it be redirected to High School Musical 3: Senior Year --The JumpStation (talk) 03:58, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, and here's a link. If nobody comments within a day, we can just go ahead and change it. Snoborder93 (talk) 04:53, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subtitle 

message: I tried to move the page to High School Musical 3: Senior Year because that's its new official title, but I couldn't. Snoborder93 (talk) 19:43, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  I tried to change the title... 

message: how come their is no cast section when it has already been confirmed on the article itself that all six primary actors are reprising their roles. Honestly it boggles my mind and every time I do try to put one up it gets taken down. So can someone who maybe has some power on this article put a confirmed cast section. Headstrong 345 (talk) 03:55, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Cast Section 

message: Cast
Zac Efron as Troy Bolton - male protagonist  
Vanessa Hudgens as Gabriella Montez - female protagonist 
Ashley Tisdale as Sharpay Evans - female antagonist 
Drew Seeley as Daniel - male antagonist 
Sara Paxton as Shirley Evans - Sharpay's cousin , 2nd female antagonist 
Lucas Grabeel as Ryan Evans - Sharpay's twin brother 
Corbin Bleu as Chad - Troy's best friend 
Monique Coleman as Taylor - Gabriella's best friend 
Blake Lively as Angie Evans - Sharpay's nice cousin  
Not Confirmed Cast
Brenda Song as London Tipton, Sharpay's friend 
Hilary Duff as Christie, Sharpay's friend, antagonist 
Dylan and Cole Sprouse as Matt and Chuck Evans, Sharpay's cousins 
Miley Cyrus as Shane Bolton, Troy's cousin  
 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.79.214.200 (talk) 16:45, 12 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Cite your sources, please.99.144.170.189 (talk) 20:10, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is just a "Who's Who" of Disney Channel. Malpass93 (talk) 21:15, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast 

message: Does anyone have any idea where that logo came from? Malpass93 (talk) 18:06, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure if that's the correct image.  Can someone verify?  --JpGrB 20:40, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  It came from a magazine advertising the chance to have a walk-on role in the film or something. I have no idea which magazine, I'm guessing Disney Adventures, and I think the ad had Vanessa on it. I know it's real, but I can't verify per say, and I didn't put it up. Snoborder93 (talk) 00:44, 26 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: But didn't Disney Adventures shut down at the end of last year? WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 16:38, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image? 

message: I was just wondering if anyone has heard if the other characters in the movie are going to be reprising their roles in this one. If anyone finds out could they please add it to the confirmed cast section, but make sure it has a source. Headstrong 345 (talk) 16:03, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I read somewhere that Olesya and Chris will be back, but I have no sources so it's worthless info.Snoborder93 (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 01:47, 24 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Not quite sure why (or how) there would be a HSM4. That may have been a mistake on Chris' part. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 15:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Supporting Cast Memebers? 

message: Does anyone know if the current image in the infobox is legit? It just looks off to me.  WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 14:37, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like someone got the HSM1 image, a bad graduation hat and a 3 in Impact font and played about with them in Paint. Look at where the "L" in Musical and the 3 meet. It just looks wrong! Malpass93 (talk) 14:51, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I definately think it is unofficial because if you compare the quality of the hat to the rest, it is totally fake!  Teeple12 (talk) 21:15, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image...again 

message: Look I wanted is to help I out it becouse I thought it addeed a bit of info, I knew it wasn't sooo relevant but prefered that than the info was already there and plus other articles kept the triva why?. Anyway no hard feeling, Hope I cna contribute better next time
Bye
InfoLove
im not sure what to put this under but it says on the east high website that they are shooting there!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.244.164.207 (talk) 23:25, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  RE: Awnser response 

message: http://www.misstisdale.net/news.php?subaction=showcomments&id=1204409503&archive=&start_from=&ucat=4&
According to misstisdale, that's the "Final" offical HSM3: Senior Year logo, if this can be taken into the article that's good if someone got other links or pages so we can verify this it would be great! --Kanonkas, Take Contact (talk) 11:00, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Offical High School Musical 3: Senior Year logo 

message: Do you think there should be a casting section. Tony Oller auditioned and was rejected. Ali Lohan has been confirmed to have auditioned. Jake Thomas claims to have auditioned. There a few more, and there are sources for them all but I just wanted to see everyone's opinion on whether or not a casting section is necessary (maybe it could also be a sub-section for Production). Snoborder93 (talk) 23:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it is really called for. Can you  imagine how many people "audition" for various films, tv shows and theatrical productions?  I think what Wiki would say is - is it notable?  Auditioning is hardly notable.  Getting cast, on the other hand, is quite notable. Also, given that all the leads are returning to the next installment, what would be notable about auditioning for a supporting or ensemble role? Good question though and thanks for raising it here. Smatprt (talk) 00:49, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casting Section 

message: I heard the Lindsey Lohan's sister is going to be in High School Musical 3. Is this true?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.211.24.175 (talk) 21:58, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lindsey Lohan's sister in High School Musical 3 

message: Some one add this to the main page!
1. Laughter (Cast)
2. Mixin' my turn (Troy)
3. Dance in the rhythym if U wanna be. (Sharpay and the Sharpettes)
4. Our Prom time! (Cast)
5. Let's See it (Ms. Darbus and Coach Bolton) 
6. I am over you (Sharpay and Gabriella)
7. Miss is coming to here (Ryan and Gabriella)
8. The Dress (Cast) 
9. Hollywood in school (Sharpay, Taylor and Kelsi)
10. I was thinking about everytime (Troy and Gabriella)
11. It will never end (Cast)
  —Preceding 
unsigned comment added by Punkgoth23 (talk • contribs) 21:33, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wouldn't add that yet. The only thing we know without a doubt is that there will be a movie. As it gets closer, there will certainly be time to add songs as they are confirmed.  WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 15:07, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Plus some of these songs sound very dumb especially the one with Mrs.Darbus and coach bolton I mean that didn't sing in the first two so why would they now? Headstrong 345 (talk) 02:38, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Does anyone know if this is the official tracklist or not? I was wondering 'cause some of these sound really stupid. I would probably believe Mixin' My Turn, I Am Over You, or It Will Never End, but the rest sound stupid. Like who would actually want to see a showdown song between Ms. Darbus and Coach Bolton. I sure wouldn't. I hope this isn't the official tracklist.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by WildcatMaster3000 (talk • contribs) 23:14, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably bull. I think we'll have a better grasp of what the tracklist will be about 2-3 months before the movie actually comes out.  WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 17:08, 9 March 2008 (UTC)

text: True, though I remembered seeing something mentioned on the pop-up version of the original film where it was mentioned that there was a song the two were supposed to have after Troy tries out for the musical; but it was scrapped for unknown reasons. WAVY 10 Fan (talk) 15:43, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tracklist 

message: Jemma McKenzie Brown as Tiara
Matt Prokop as Jimmie "the Rocket" Soto
Justin Martin as Donny Fox
I thought Selena Gomez was in line to play Tiara???????  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.188.124.62 (talk) 21:17, 30 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Cast Members Revealed 

message: On the Britney Spears article, it mentioned she is set for a role in High School Musical 3.
http://www.entertainmentwise.com/article.asp?id=41421
I removed the information, as even though it is properly cited, it seems highly likely to be an April Fool's joke.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Steph1121 (talk • contribs) 04:54, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Britney Spears in High School Musical 3 

message: Look at the video Then you'll see the new actors charcter names. Accesshollywood, is a reliable source, and it's parent company is NBC --Kanonkas, Take Contact (talk) 16:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits and reverts/Reliable source 

message: October 22, 2008 - Philippines
October 22, 2008 - Netherlands  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.213.254.126 (talk) 11:14, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filming dates 

message: Do not delete the high school musical 3 poster i am a big fan i cried when i saw that it was gonna be deleted  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.55.106.47 (talk) 23:53, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's in violation of a Wiki Policy it will be deleted. Save it to your computer if you want it. -Sukecchi (talk) 21:52, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  HSM3 poster petition 

message: Justin was also in the Lion King on Broadway and Raisin in the Sun
MikeSims (talk) 21:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Justin Martin 

message: Hello, and the Vanessa Hudgens photo controversy should be deleted. Should be better put the section on Vanessa Hudgens?
 
Pedrovip (talk) 16:42, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually believe it should stay as it was a controversy surrounding her involvement in this specific movie.  Just my opinion.  --JpGrB 17:27, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that it should stay. As just mentioned, it is specific to her involvement in this particular movie. Smatprt (talk) 01:51, 27 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scandal to be delete 

message: I have it on good authority that Don Schrain is co-producer rather than a full produer, but the only place I can find this is at Moviehole, a site I'm not very familiar with but apparently is commonly accepted on Wikipedia. I've made the edit on the page itself but only providing the citation here, as I don't want to clutter up the infobox with citation marks (though maybe I should get over that). NMS Bill (talk) 16:38, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don Schrain, co-producer 

message: Please stop deleting the confirmed songs. The songs were confirmed by the cast and some extras.
Gary0203 (talk) 21:59, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Until it leaves the editing room how can it be "confirmed"?  They may have filmed these, but it doesn't mean they'll be in the movies.  And the sources you have provided are not correctly referenced.  --JpGrB 22:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: yeah, but if they filmed them, then they will definately be on the soundtrack.  so i think we should include them. 12.227.129.134 (talk) 02:57, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confirmed Songs 

message: The final song is called "High School Musical". It's ALL over YouTube. I know it's not a reliable source...Empezardesdecero1718 (talk) 03:11, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final Song: "High School Musical" 

message: One of the songs has been leaked on youtube.--Digiron (talk) 23:06, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, i think we should say something about the leaked material.  Also major plot points have been released on the internet by an extra in the movie.12.227.129.134 (talk) 02:58, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why would "leaked material" be noteworthy?  Rumors of plot points don't belong either.Smatprt (talk) 23:26, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leaked 

message: Should it specify on the article that the movie series first started as a television movie and then moved to be a theatrical release? It's not very often that a television movie eventually has feature film sequels.
-Rosepuff12 (talk) 22:26, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  DCOMs turning into feature films 

message: According to a critic who has seen WALL-E the trailer was not released. The post can be viewed on the wall-e message board under HSM 3  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.125.47.36 (talk) 04:04, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was attached to Wall-E but only to some selected theaters. The trailer should be released by Sunday according to a blog to nationwide. Gary0203 (talk) 08:30, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have been also told that there will be a premiere of Thunderbirds on Disney  Channel with a trailer. --Gary0203 (talk) 01:11, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There would be a trailer during the premiere of Picture This! and before Camp Rock behind-the-scenes looks starts. Then, there would be another trailer on its website. I just saw the promo on Disney Channel. Also, check Disney XD, it might be there! There's also will be a premiere of Now or Never on Radio Disney on July 11. Then the music video of High School Musical will be released on August 8. That's all what I know for now. --DCFan101 (talk) 21:20, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trailer 

message: pLease repLy with a link to the officiaL traiLer  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.243.20 (talk) 13:01, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  traiLer 

message: The source is from IMDb, but seeing as we don't cite this, should it be deleted?  And actually, as of this edit, there is not source.  --JpGrB 02:06, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think so. IMDb is not reliable, plus it's highly unlikely that other countries would get the film before the U.S. Snoborder93 (talk) 01:19, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: done. Smatprt (talk) 02:18, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Simpsons Movie was out in the UK and Australia before it was out in the USA!I don't know whats so wrong about HSM3 coming out somewhere else first! Crazy Chick13 (talk) 15:33, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Crazy Chick! What's the matter? And my source is the Cinemas! They already had October 22 in it!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.1.53.2 (talk) 05:43, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well unless you get a tangible, reliable source, nothing can be proved. And, yes, sometimes the UK gets movies before the US (I never knew Australia did, but that's believable), but Belgium and other random countries would not get it before the US. It's mostly the primarily English-speaking countries that get it around the same time as the US. Snoborder93 (talk) 04:44, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My source is the trailer!!! The Disney Channel Asia trailer showed Philippines October 22. =] 121.1.53.2 (talk)  —Preceding comment was added at 11:17, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release dates. 

message: Is there any source that states when the film finished production?  This article states it was supposed to finish on June 13, but I haven't heard anything really since?
Oh, and also, in the opening paragraph, it just seems to randomly say "People magazine, July 7, 2008;" and I don't know what this is for.  If someone can help, thanks.  --JpGrB 04:31, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have a source, but a bunch of blogs were reporting that filming would wrap up on June 30 (it was originally scheduled for June 13 but filming go delayed). Ashley, Zac, and Vanessa were seen outside of Salt Lake City around the 26th, meaning they were all done filming. I'll look into it, but I can't guarantee a good source. But I know that they wouldn't have gone past June 30 because there was an anticipated actors strike. And about the People Magazine comment, I think someone was trying to use it as a source but didn't do it correctly. Snoborder93 (talk) 04:49, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question. 

message: This site has been there for a fews or so, I'm not sure if it should be counted because is is a blog.  If someone can comment on this?  --JpGrB 04:30, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be a blog.  It should not be counted as a RS. Smatprt (talk) 05:14, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what I thought, I'll take it out, thank you.  --JpGrB 05:18, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links. 

message: Is this a reliable source?  --JpGrB 12:57, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tommy2.net. 

message: the Vanessa Hidgens thing and develpment are no longer needed!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.240.194.88 (talk) 18:58, 19 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Says who?  They're still important.  --JpGrB 19:00, 19 July 2008 (UTC)

text: It was a big controversy on the development and her involvement in the film.  Isn't that notable?  It had previously been discussed on a minor note here.  But of course, it could be open to discussion.  --JpGrB 10:02, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  How was it a "big controversy on the development"? And as for her involvement in the film that's something that should be in her entry and not the movies. Dontyoudare (talk) 11:32, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, because it was speculated on if she would be in the movie.  But like I said, it's fine for a discussion, or even if you'd like to take it out.  I just thought that it was important because it was unsure if she would be in the film due to the controversy and Disney's "clean image" thing.  Just my opinion.  --JpGrB 12:10, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it should stay.  It was specific to her involvement in THIS film, not her entire career. And JpGrB is correct in that it also involves Disney's squeaky image, and how they somehow let it go because of her status. Smatprt (talk) 21:11, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Smatprt is correct, it was important to her involvement in this film, and that is important to the article.  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 06:07, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

text: That makes no sense.  There may not have been scandals this big for the first two movies.  This is the female lead in a movie almost being recast or just discarded because of photos, I'd say to have the female lead almost gone is a reason to keep it in the article.  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 02:48, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with JpGrB.  Obviously there will be no consensus to change this so I think it's time to end this discussion. Smatprt (talk) 03:53, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Threatening shall get you nowhere.  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 13:40, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Actually, that's not a bad idea, I could agree to that.  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 01:28, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  annoyed 

message: Kelsi Nielsen is now one of the main cast members of HSM3: Senior Year! She's apart of the doll collection of 7 and before the other profiles came on the HSM3 site, she was one of them on there, so she's one of the main characters, it even says that on Olesya Rulin's article here  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.108.142.240 (talk) 05:47, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the reason she keeps being reverted (not just by myself) is because many people feel there are 6 main characters as shown in the poster.  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 06:05, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, the six stars are the ones on the poster. Being part of a doll collection is hardy a justifiable reason and all the major press and articles names just the six. Sorry. Smatprt (talk) 15:10, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

text: First, lets use the correct terminology. The article (and the industry) uses the term "starring". "Main character" doesn't really mean anything in the context we are discussing. Having said that, its clear that the six "stars" are the ones on the poster.  If Kelsi was "starring" then she would be there too. So unless you can find some reliable third party sources (not her website) that describe her as one of the stars, then no changes should be made to the article. thanks. Smatprt (talk) 21:27, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Seven Main Characters 

message: It is coming out in Cinemas on October 24th  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.187.50.114 (talk) 21:05, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for pointing out information we're already aware of.  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 21:09, 13 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  When Is IT Out? 

message: Could somebody fix the main page?  The top is messed up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.230.148.14 (talk) 17:59, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Looks Weird... 

message: Would anyone mind if I moved the information regarding the "international casting call" to the "Production announcements" section or even the "Development" section?  Some feedback on this issue would help.  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 18:03, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casting merge. 

message: Reacently there was a behind the scenes video that showed Justin Martin playing Donny Dion and its from Disney.com  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hsm7 (talk • contribs) 04:31, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you show a link to this source or an interview?  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 04:43, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said, can you prove this?  I can state anything was said on the DVD, but I have added a source that states his last name is "Fox", so unless you have hard reliable proof of a change, please do not change this.  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 19:26, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like its accurate. Just google Donny Dion High School Musical and numerous hits come up including these sources (more reliable than most of the others which are blogs): http://guides.clickthecity.com/movies/?p=3076  and http://movies.about.com/library/weekly/aahighschoolmusical3cast.htm.  Also Justin's personal blog confirms it. Smatprt (talk) 20:00, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, see, that I can believe, thank you.  I mean, I didn't mean to be such a pain about it.  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 20:02, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Donny 

message: Ok. According to the site, and the novel, his name is Jimmie Zara. It's Jimmie not Jimmy. So, please change it  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.108.145.186 (talk) 04:16, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jimmy or Jimmie? 

message: As the movie has come out in the UK we already have seen it!
Could someone who can put in the plot please? 
it premierd on the 22Th in israel! —Preceding unsigned comment added by Koolmazza (talk • contribs) 17:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  PLOT 

message: The budget is stated as $300000 which is obviously incorrect. I believe it was $30 million! Could this be fixed? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Masterdoun (talk • contribs) 17:04, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  BUDGET 

message: I feel like something should be stated about this as Stanford rarely allows on-campus movie-filming. And that fact that there are is no "Honors" program at Stanford. But, idk. Mercruz (talk) 02:38, 29 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filming at Stanford 

message: Uh...David Reivers didnt portray chads father. Someone change it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.240.210.80 (talk) 02:16, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chads Father 

message: i noticed that kelsi and ryan seemed to be together and that jason and martha seemed to be together so whats up? 68.186.62.181 (talk) 05:05, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  couples 

message: One of the songs playing during the party at Troy's house is 'Freaky' by Jesse McCartney on his new album 'Departure'. There are also rumours circulating that he appeared in the party scene? Can this be confirmed/checked? -- JG ROX 124.187.170.189 (talk) 11:48, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  songs 

message: Well I was watching family and I saw this segment where they were interviewing the orignal cast. And they said that this is the last installment featuring them as the main characters. This should be added to the article as it could be true since they are graduating  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.149.239 (talk) 21:27, 3 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last installment featuring the original cast 

message: No time to add prose now, but Reuters reporting a singalong version will be released friday: http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20081104/film_nm/us_highschoolmusical. —C.Fred (talk) 22:03, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singalong version 

message: All through the section regarding the photo incident, Vanessa Hudgens is refered to as 'Vanessa'. To give the article a slightly more offical look, and to abide by the general rules of writing, shouldn';t she be referred to as 'Hudgens'? -- Jg Rox 121.217.196.194 (talk) 05:21, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.—Kww(talk) 13:39, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hudgens Photo Scandal 

message: A new editor keeps moving the minor role of "Jason" to a more prominent position than it deserves.  I have reverted this (as have several other editors).  I don't immediately recall if "Jason" has many solo lyrics in the movie, but I will review it soon. I do know that his character does not even contribute to the cast album. This editor is correct that the West High players don't sing in the opening number so I have reinstated that portion of the edit. In them meantime, I have asked thru the edit summary for the new editor to provide a reference if he wishes to reinstate this edit - or talk it our on this page. Smatprt (talk) 06:30, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have not seen this film, a regret on my part, but I must ask where your sources are from?  I understand the end credits, and that's very good, but is there a source that lists them as a "secondary" actor, or is this just your terminology?  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 16:35, 10 December 2008 (UTC)

text: "It's pretty obvious" and what "everyone has been calling" are not sources. That is called "original research". It's pretty obvious that Troy's Dad is a huge part, as are the new characters (who certainly have larger parts than Ryne and all but Olesya. There are some fans that think Olesya is the "7th star" now.  Again - thats called original research unless you can back it up with a reliable source.  Also - the template applies to all the movies, in which Bart and Alyson are key players.  Regardless, the only reference we have is the IMBD list, so until another reliable source is found, we should just leave the order the way it is there.Smatprt (talk) 17:55, 14 December 2008 (UTC)

text: Yes, there are 6 stars. There is no dispute over that. And whether or not (in your opinion) Bart and Alyson are more important than Zeke, Jason, etc. matters little here. The IMDB lists the cast according to the credits (opening credits or end credits, they do not say) and they have Bart and Alyson listed after the 6 stars. How actors are listed on the HSM3 site matters little. We have a source that lists the credits and the order. That has to suffice for this article.Smatprt (talk) 06:19, 16 December 2008 (UTC)

text: that's great, but it's called Original Research and is not allowed here. Please read the wiki sections on this and on providing proper references/reliable sources. Until you do and start following procedures your edits will be reverted. Sorry, but you really need to observe the rules for editing if you want to contribute to these pages. Just like the rest of us :) Smatprt (talk) 17:19, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: For the past couple of days I've seen this go back and forth.  I have not seen this movie, which is why I have not edited it in a while.  Smatprt, you know when it comes to this stuff, you and I get along pretty well, but from what I've gathered on Wikipedia since my time here, I've come to realize that for things such as this, the movie is the source.  Now, I may be wrong, but it seems that if this is how the movie credits are, this is how it probably should be.  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 20:50, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

text: No, I wouldn't recommend YouTube at all.  --HELLØ    ŦHERE 01:09, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent changes to cast order