Talk:Western rosella

message: This is a feather by feather description I started, and I am toying with a table of measurements. I will develop this idea in another article, and leave this here while reviews and things are underway. cygnis insignis 04:29, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds like HANZAB a bit. was going to get stuck into that today but needed a slab of undisturbed time....which didn't happen. Be bold and have a go at the description then. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 05:05, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Cross ref from HANZAB of weight range xanthogenys m. adult, Johnstone says to 94g. Now moved to main. cygnis insignis 14:10, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

text: Thanks for a reply. Edits are welcome mate, as are suggestions for improvement, of course, the aim being this become a better or best article on the species. My preference is to have a succinct paragraph on the species and subspecies, then lead out to the feather by feather for those who are interested; my reading of every short description I can find may assist me to accomplish that. I think I'm waiting on any contrary or supplemental info from HANZAB before honing the prose. To hurriedly explain the structure, a diagnostic, sentence in the lede will expand to a para at descrip then the detailed description of the plumage. Clear as mud in the telling, shall we see what I can do after HANZAB? cygnis insignis 10:40, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The new section also strikes me as extremely detailed compared to other bird articles. The article also seems to be in a constant state of expansion, so I wonder if I should wait a bit before reviewing further until it is more stable, since the text is changing so rapidly. FunkMonk (talk) 11:26, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds prudent. I have been far busier IRL than I expected, and have been suffering a cold/flu last few days which has sapped my energy. Plus there is more to check. This article could take a while. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 11:34, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Honestly not bothered. Please give an indication [] if you intend to bring HANZAB into the mix, alternately you can forward me a copy along with that Serventy article. My red-cap mates dropped by today, father and son being shown what is what, I'm inspired to see if there is anything to add to the spurious feature. Thanks for assistance so far, sincerely, cygnis insignis 11:41, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

text: Likewise, , I had the notion you were attending to other things. If some protocol is needed, then apply that without concern to my wishes on outcomes here. I will be getting peer input from outside as well, especially on prose issues, and that is generally a good thing for our document too. Happy editinig, cygnis insignis 11:48, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, let me know which sections are stable when the time comes, then I'll review those first. FunkMonk (talk) 11:52, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Cas will have an opinion, unless he is asleep ;) My opinion is everything except description is stable, when you wan to have look, and know that I don't envy your task … cygnis insignis 12:06, 26 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  This article is huge now. There is no real protocol. I'm in two minds as the size of this means it is a long process and staring at it too much too quickly diminishes one's ability to address prose and flow issues. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 04:58, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:   One solution is to pick an earlier revision or slice away material, then run it through here to FA, as with red-cap where you said that "is nearly everything" and I found something else to do. I prefer not to make those determinations, and wouldn't know how I would start, if someone else is able to then I do not understand their hesitation. My preferred solution, again, if I was seeking promotion for this article, is that material from the two other standard texts be incorporated, and that due weight of included material is established by comparison. If that is not possible, sending me a copy of HANZAB at least, then please tell me stop nagging for copies of material you are using, and that Serventy article on King Parrot, I'm happy to do the same, supply copies of hard print I access and cite. I am comfortable refining the prose with that material at hand, and that would reduce greatly length and tediousness I believe. What I have done here, after you arrived at the talk, was add what I could find, cloth for your scissors and stitches, and refinements were better left until you had applied your changes. If that was badly met then I will consider what I can do about that. If you prefer I suggest facts on the talk again at this stage of development, I have previously read inclusion as acceptance and silence as 'not an appropriate detail' and thought no more about it. I will watch the community's further development of the article with interest, respond to any confusion I create and double check unavailable sources, and incorporate those improvements into my own contributions. "So, umm, well, err, right then" … will I now look at other articles that need even a little bit of expansion or refocus on this? Just so I know Cas, that would also be huge. cygnis insignis 06:52, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I will email you HANZAB a bit later tonight. Just cooking dinner. Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 07:50, 27 November 2018 (UTC)

text: Another solution, not aired, is a split to subspecies. The sum of content would be longer, and a little repetitive, but each article would be shorter. Not a preference for me especially, just a thought. cygnis insignis 13:53, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not keen on that idea either. Just have a play with it. Digest HANZAB and see...Cas Liber (talk · contribs) 19:59, 27 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  feather by feather 

message: , well, here it is mate. This took me some time, but with some attention from those above (epecially ) and the guild I am able to deliver what I said I would, that is, I think this is ready for FA if you are inclined to take it over. I'll stay out of the review, but ping me if I created any puzzles. cygnis insignis 05:46, 9 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  ready now