Talk:Emilie Autumn

message: I Can't Give You What Your Looking For Because It Isn't Here Greedco Is  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:7C23:EA00:2C7D:FF14:F333:7683 (talk) 15:34, 23 October 2018 (UTC)
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message: Stashing interviews here for possible inclusion. Reliability will have to be checked.
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:Kaguya-chan (talk) 20:43, 15 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Kaguya-chan (talk) 21:31, 20 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Another interview. Kaguya-chan (talk) 21:02, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

text: Kaguya-chan (talk) 23:17, 11 November 2010 (UTC)

text: Kaguya-chan (talk) 20:31, 16 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stuff 

message: Hearing voices absolutely is not a symptom of bipolar disorder. It doesn't matter if she says so in interviews, it is not true. I've no problem with the article including that she has bipolar disorder and hears/ has heard voices, but saying that the hearing of voices is a symptom of bipolar disorder is completely false. 188.141.12.67 (talk) 11:40, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The point is that she blames the disorder for causing the voices in her head, regardless of whether it actually does. Kaguya-chan (talk) 13:08, 2 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Absolutely not possible? Where do you get your information, if I might ask?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.207.139.113 (talk) 11:37, 13 December 2010 (UTC)

text: Hearing voices absolutely *can* be a symptom of bipolar disorder, in either mood state; I have severe bipolar disorder and have been hospitalized several times for the condition. If anything, I find her romanticising mental illness and her misleading descriptions of psych hospitals far more problematic than claiming bipolar, which half the industry is already doing these days anyway. --R, 13 Sept 2011 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.9.199.149 (talk • contribs) 16:44, 13 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Bipolar Disorder

message: So the article is pretty much finished except for the mangled Public image section. Any ideas about how to clean it up into 1-2 neat paragraphs or any general improvements? Your opinion is very much wanted, so speak up! :)  Kaguya-chan (talk) 22:01, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  So... 

message: In the article it says: "Autumn identifies herself as asexual, despite having had relationships with men and women." However, being asexual does not mean that you can't have romantic relationships. (See wiki page on asexuality for reference.) --Rraton (talk) 20:31, 18 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right. I removed that part form the article. Kaguya-chan (talk) 18:10, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess that could be possible, as long as there's no sex, which isn't true in this case, by her own admissions.  She can call herself asexual, but that's a pretty strong word that means total celibacy as an absolute preference.  She can stop having sex (hopefully for a better reason that bisexuality being somewhat cliched by now) but if still has sexual attraction towards anyone she's celibate, not asexual. Magmagoblin2 (talk) 11:44, 17 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: To be honest, her sexuality is nobody's business but hers. If she wants to think of herself as asexual, let her. Kaguya-chan (talk) 21:47, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

text: Just to clear this up further, a little: Asexuality does not mean celibacy. It indicates that she doesn't experience sexual attraction (but might experience romantic attraction). There are asexuals that do have sex. People often do things they wouldn't, by their own innate interests, for partners they care for. (7x1) (talk) 16:31, 21 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: https://twitter.com/emilieautumn/status/243503809198964736  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.24.168.181 (talk) 08:35, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

text: This is an encyclopaedia, not an opinion soapbox. Asexuality is defined on Wikipedia as; "Asexuality (sometimes referred to as nonsexuality), in its broadest sense, is the lack of sexual attraction to others. and, in some cases, the lack of interest in sex." What your opinion of it is is irrevelvant, by that definition you can be asexual and have sex.124.169.35.101 (talk) 16:10, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Asexuality 

message: Ms. Autumn redid her official site, and took out the section where she discussed her appearances on other musicians' tracks, among other things. And none of it can be found on Internet Archive, of course, because that would make everything far too easy. And, she now says that she was born in Los Angeles ... Kaguya-chan (talk) 21:34, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official site redone 

message: Guys, stop removing industrial from the box, Emilie adds industrial into her work and I think it fits nicely.! Stop!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.232.37.202 (talk) 08:52, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: What independent reliable sources can you provide that classify her music as industrial, and is industrial a major genre of music? —C.Fred (talk) 14:51, 16 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Actually, looking at old versions of the article, there were three genres listed: Classical, electronic, and industrial. Based on that, I'll accept industrial being listed as a genre unless an argument is presented here for removing that genre from the infobox. Regarding the later addition of dark cabaret, that's the genre that I'm not sure warrants a mention in the infobox. —C.Fred (talk) 14:55, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The Post-Gazette gives her genres as "classical, cabaret, electronica and glam-rock", but she commented in an interview: "the fact that I'm categorized largely in industrial mainly because of yelling a lot and the kind of drum programming I do, that is the industrial revolution... If I have to categorize it anything, I call it glam rock because there's a lot of glitter on the stage." Hope that helps! Kaguya-chan (talk) 00:25, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

text: Absolutely right. This woman has absolutely no idea what Industrial music means. For her, it's just a marketing term. Furthermore, it's not the only term she used to describe her music. There are 3 or 4 more self-invented genre terms.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.134.17.134 (talk) 09:46, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

text: ... and please, show me the Darkwave part in her music. Many of her songs are new-age/folk-oriented, comparable to the sound of Clannad and related groups.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.134.17.134 (talk) 10:06, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Industrial Genre 

message: In the main text is said she was born in 1977, but in the box is said she was born in 1979. Nodate have a reference.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.122.13.174 (talk) 08:13, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Introduction corrected to 1979. The reference is properly placed in the 1979–2000: Beginnings section of the article; the introduction and infobox do not need references when the material is referenced in the main body of the article. —C.Fred (talk) 12:45, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of birth 

message: I think "A Bit o' This & That" should be listed in the "rarities albums" category instead of the "Compilation Albums" section, since its not an studio album, but it isn't an EP ether. It can't be a compilation album, cause it doesn't include her singles or her biggest hits, or songs previously released (except for the remixed for what if and chambermaid). It fits more in the rarities category cause it has the songs that were never released on Enchant or Opheliac, and it also has live recordings, demos and some remixes. So I don't see how someone can consider it as a compilation album.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 189.145.11.97 (talk) 00:41, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for pointing that out. I've gone ahead and fixed it. :) Kaguya-chan (talk) 14:54, 17 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Albums section 

message: Emilie tends to say she was born in 1979, however the following image contradicts that and would suggest she was actually born in 1977. (http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcb9wtogJO1rptmyso4_500.jpg) I have heard that the latter date is correct, so could we use the linked image as proof, and adjust the date accordingly? Or is this a no-go? Thanks. 176.27.79.19 (talk) 17:37, 3 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No. What source did the album cover get its date from? I think the Allmusic bio is a better source than this. —C.Fred (talk) 01:45, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

text: Isn't it possible that the On A Day... album cover/insert that lists her birth year as 1977 is just a misprint? I mean, the above link mentions that the 2001 re-release of the album lists Autumn's birth year as 1979. The re-release predates the bulk of Autumn's discography (including Enchant), and it was released during a time that even a lot of skeptics seem to accept as an "era" when Autumn was "honest" about her life. It's possible that she's lied about other aspects of her life (I'm not going to bother with that, largely because it is not my place to judge or analyse what she's said in that regard), but this seems like an honest mistake rather than an outright, revisionist lie. 96.52.37.75 (talk) 00:02, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: And that's why the WP guideline is to go for secondary sources rather than primary. The hope is that the researchers for the biography will have checked and double-checked sources, rather than just printed what Autumn says. —C.Fred (talk) 00:07, 31 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Real birth year? 

message: Original research, obviously, so can't be included in the article proper (along with her birth surname, Fritzges, of course), but the following record indicates her birth date was, as indicated on the 1997 'On A Day' promo that she clearly now regrets given her forum etc black that part out, 22 September 1977.
https://www.familysearch.org/search/search/record/results/?count=20&query=%2Bgivenname%3A%22Emily%20A%22~%20%2Bsurname%3AFritzges~
Just adding this here for posterity! 88.109.210.206 (talk) 17:18, 7 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actual birth year 

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