Talk:Herbert Morrison

message: There are some other interesting facts about Herbert Morrison which are worth recording.  It is often forgotten that he attempted an abortive coup against Clement Attlee after Labour had won the 1945 election.    Attlee had not been at this stage been formally confirmed as the party's leader and Morrison tried to get his supporter Harold Laski to move a motion in the Parliamentary Labour Party calling for a leadership election.  It was this that led to the memorable rebuke from Attlee to Laski:  "A period of silence from you would now be welcome."
Morrison's inveterate plotting made him unpopular with his colleagues.  One minister was once heard to lament that Morrison "was his own worst enemy," only to be met with the response from Ernest Bevin "not while I'm alive he ain't."   Intriguingly, Morrison's grandson is the former Labour Cabinet minister Peter Mandelson, who had a similarly testy relationship with many of his political colleagues.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.159.95.125 (talk) 13:57, 8 October 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Interesting facts

message: I've now properly moved the page, and merged the histories.
James F. (talk) 02:37, 2 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move 

message: Is there a reason why this ended in February 1951? He was still Lord President and Leader of the Commons until the following month. Timrollpickering 14:53, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because he became Foreign Secretary (actually in March 1951). Viscount Addison became Lord President in March 1951. (	Viscount Addison, Lord President 9 Mar 51 - 26 Oct 51) --gobears87 (talk) 13:34, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: My statement above should not say "because he became F.S.", in fact he continued as Deputy PM. In any case, it is all correct now. The Deputy term in fact continued until Labour left office, and he was Deputy leader under Gaitskell after Attlee's resignation.  --gobears87 (talk) 00:07, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Term as Deputy PM 

message: Don't have a biography on hand to check, but wasn't he in charge of macroeconomic planning for the first years of the Labour Government? Then, as the economic crisis was worsening,  he got mixed up in plotting to put Bevin in Attlee's place (Bevin refused saying "Who do you think I am? Lloyd George?) and control of planning was given to Cripps, who then replaced Dalton as Chancellor some time later.MissingMia (talk) 20:26, 2 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, slow to respond but no, he wasn't. FWIW, I wrote my PhD on economic & physical planning under Attlee & WC's 1951 govt... but for a source if you want to check, best place is Tomlinson (lots of articles, or books, e.g. Democratic Socialism and Economic Policy: the Attlee years 1945-51). Cheers --gobears87 (talk) 16:30, 25 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps so, but as I recall Cripps' appointment as Minister of Economic Affairs that autumn was in part a slapdown of Morrison.Paulturtle (talk) 00:44, 20 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well I'll just reiterate the above suggestion - read Tomlinson! Plus he has a new excellent book out last year: Managing the Economy, Managing the People.... if you like economic history. :-) But NO, again, Morrison was not in charge of macroeconomic planning for the Attlee govt ever (EVER!). He had a role in industry as Lord President, not directly in economics, he was responsible for coordination not policy. In fact, Morrison himself claimed to have more of a role than he actually did - perhaps why people have that idea. See also Dow, Management of the British Economy 1945-60. Additionally the role Cripps was given ("Minister of Economic Affairs") was a newly created role and only actually lasted two months, effectively. When Dalton put his foot in it soon after Cripps then became ChEx. As it happens, Cripps took over Lord Pres duties when Morrison became ill in 1947, but none of his duties were ever because of any "slap down" of Morrison. Hope this helps.  --gobears87 (talk) 20:58, 31 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economic Planning 

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message: The section of copy above the Contents list seems to have blown in from the main article. Can it be placed in its proper place? Valetude (talk) 23:27, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It was an early, unsigned, comment that lacked a header. I have added a header and used the "unsignedIP" template to sign it. DuncanHill (talk) 23:35, 11 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong page?