Talk:Brahma Kumaris/Archive 7

message: Dear All, Just wanted to drop by and say "hello" to my wikipedia brothers and sisters on my way back from Madhuban. That "history hall" is filled with such an uplifting atmosphere that you got to be dead not to feel it...Similarly but not quite the same, are the vibrations around Baba"s room in GCH, London. Had some subtle experiences with God, which I am sure will nourish me for the rest of this year...Not a place like Madhuban in the whole world, I am sure. Not even the vibrations in Macchu Picchu, comes close. Accha... Blessings from the heart, avyakt7 09:21, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Om Shanti!!

message: Allegations of disruptive editing have been made.  Unfortunately the form of article probation put in place by the Arbitration Committee does not allow direct action against disruptive editors (other than the banned 195 editor).  I have asked the Committee to review the situation; you may wish to make a comment here as well. (Be reasonably brief and please don't argue over content) Thatcher131 15:31, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arbitration review 

message: i almost done putting back what the Bks took out because they said there were no citations.........the lack of citations was the only reason to remove them, the refences are pukka but they need put into the right form. I dont know if someone else can help with this. Green108 07:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good work. I am considering removing the "Motto: Om Shanti" line in the organization box as it appears without citation. If informal agreement among editors to allow original research among current and former members to be included is not possible, then we might as well be strict.Duality Rules 23:20, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Go for it - I have no objection. Appledell 23:54, 22 March 2007 (UTC)

text:  We have consensus on this one. I've just taken it out. Bksimonb 11:34, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no objection. I must say, I think we are gaining a good cooperative decorum here and I am very impressed. Thank you to all.PEACETalkAbout 18:13, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  tidying up references 

message: patanjali raja yoga is mental too and not about physical exercise.............best leave that for the raja yoga pageGreen108 22:55, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I thot Pantanjali included the physical as well, Pranayama and Asana are listed on the page. BKs clearly do not teach the physical aspect at all. Perhaps the intro should say that directly, i.e. teaching "no exercises" instead of "little or no exercises". Duality Rules 00:01, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  So you think it inappropriate to distinguish between Brahma Kumaris Raja Yoga and Pantanjali's Raja Yoga while stating that the BK's teach Raja Yoga? Could you state your reasoning? Duality Rules 01:57, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  patanjali 

message: i changed the date to match the new citations i have provided..............its not really clear exactly which date should be used ,as Om Mandli could actually be 1937 or 1938 , will anyone check the originals?  Green108 16:14, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  date 

message: *Can the references please start first with the surname name of the author? 
*Ditto for bibliography and can it please be ordered under the surname of the author?
*Same request for further reading section.
Andries 18:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References, bibliography, and further reading

message: I do not understand the following sentence because the atomic bomb was a secret unitl 1945. Can somebody please explain here or in the article?
:"Kirpalani was said to have had visions of the destruction of the world[17] through civil war, natural disaster and finally Nuclear Holocaust, one of Earth in a paradiscal state, and another of himself as the Hindu god Vishnu."
Andries 21:54, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think he described them as such (atomic bombs) via his visions and later they were drawn by artist to represent Russia and the United States (I do believe these paintings are still there in Mt Abu... here is a book picture )as the two leading the conflict/arms race.  A bit of Nostradamus I say!. Leaves one scratching ones head though? Alas, the above quote is correct. I will look for another academic quote that touches on this subject of destruction.PeaceTalkAbout 00:54, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Visions of nuclear holocaust in 1937?

message: These letters apparently from Om Radhe (I have my doubts about their veracity - but that's irrelevent) are primary sources, even if they are genuine. They can't be used as refs/citations in a wikipedia article. I'll remove the related wording in the article they are attached to, unless there are any reasoned objections. I'll allow 7 days before I make any changes. Thanks Appledell 18:15, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: which letters and which quotes are you talking about? Green108 01:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've just had another look and saw this ref in the books listings: # Is this justice?:Being an account of the founding of the Om Mandli & the Om Nivas and their suppression, by application of the Criminal Law Amendment Act of 1908, Brahma Kumaris Radhe, 1939,ASIN:B00089UWHE    -   I think the ref I was saw didn't mention that ASIN number, but I'm assuming it's the same one. So I'm happy to keep it in. Appledell 10:01, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Alleged letters from Om Radhe

message: I have taken out some unsourced info in the critisism section. It is not a good idea to have critisism in the article that may be false. I am not saying that it is false though. If you can find a source feel free to add it back and make sure to post the source. Have a nice week and God bless:)--James, La gloria è a dio 10:00, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critisism Section