Talk:Karlsruhe

message: Why is the father of group analysis missing from the list of famous people born in Karlsruhe? --AcidArrow (talk) 22:08, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: No S. H. Foulkes?

message: This is a very BAD translation of the original ( :de:Karlsruhe )!! [fixed wikisyntax]
:So says someone who writes "eingemeindet" in the English article text.
:However, I agree with him that it isn't useful to mention that the Marktplatz was named Adolf-Hitler-Platz for some time. In each German town you can find lengthy cadastre files documenting the renaming of representative places and streets in the 30s and renaming them back in 1945.
:--Ikar.us 22:07, 23 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Bad translation?

message: I removed Shluchim Yitzchok Steinmetz and Levi Emmer from Famous People as there is no indication given of what they are supposed to be famous for and they are not in Wikipedia (en). I also checked and they are not in the german de:Karlsruhe page (nor the list of honored citizens nor the list of sons and daughters of Karlsruhe there). Ruhrfisch 15:10, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed some (not so) "Famous People" 

message: I'm surprised the article makes no mention of the (probably apocryphal) story how Karlsruhe go its name. I checked the German version which mentions it but doesn't give a source. You'd think this should be amply covered in local histories. ~ trialsanderrors 16:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's simple, really. Kalrsuhe is literally "Karl's rest," as it was somewhat of a vacation town for Karl, hence the city being built around his palace. Is there an apocryphal story with an alternate explanation? --BDD 15:44, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Founding legend?

message: There's a CC-BY-SA 2.0 map you might like on OpenStreetMap. Ojw 18:51, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Maps available

message: Please introduce the Infobox German Location with image. It provides a coherent look among German cities. Lear 21 23:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:Infobox German Location]] 

message: An American Civil War general, Franz Sigel, graduated from Karlsruhe Military Academy. There seems to be no mention of it here at all. Student7 (talk) 02:33, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Karlsruhe Military Academy

message: Since the plan for Karlsruhe is still very apparent today, long after the start in 1715, who was the planner? Did the Margrave himself do it, or was someone hired?  I have been to Karlsruhe twice, and it is a beautiful city with an excellent street plan, so the planner should get credit for the accomplishment. --DThomsen8 (talk) 01:59, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who was the planner? 

message: As of 2009, the university of Karlsruhe no longer exists. It has been transformed (including the "Forschungszentrum") into "Karlsruhe Institute of Technology" (KIT). --Denis 17:31, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  University 

message: I can't find any documents or letters on consource.org, that mention him, nor is there a letter from Thomas Jefferson to George Washington (there is not even a letter from April 10, 1791)! --greip (talk) 20:05, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  L'Enfant 

message: After "correcting" the IPA in the pronunciation of the city's name, I discovered that the same thing had been done and undone before, i.e. changing between [kals...] and [kaʁls...]. So it's maybe useful to highlight this problem on the talk page. I tested a few youtube clips and heard that locals indeed pronounce the name of the city as [kals...] (like the audiofile on the page). However, their dialect omits the "r" in other positions, too, so it's still the question whether this counts as the standard pronunciation (you don't use local dialectal names of geographical items anywhere else, do you). However, in German an "r" in this position is difficult to hear and easily elided anyway (and for English speakers the whole problem may sound completely artificial...). As a native speaker of German, I am sure I have always pronounced the "r", but then, this may be the moment in which I discover that I am influenced by a Bavarian dialect (heavy on r's). Anyway, I thought the problem should be documented to prevent more needless changing... 
--Alazon (talk) 01:22, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The article ought to cite the correct German pronunciation. The dialect version may be an extra, but has more differences than the one you focus on here. --Sitacuisses (talk) 05:57, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:   I was raising the very question of what the correct pronunciation really is, which you seem to take for granted. As I considered above, a pronunciation with r may well be a dialectal one. One thing that can certainly be agreed on: the audiofile is not to blame, it represents a typical native pronunciation. And it is beyond any doubt that this one is to be transcribed as [kals...] --Alazon (talk) 10:23, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

text:  and since the IPA is being re-reverted while I am typing this... dear colleague sitacuisses: your IPA-rendering does not match the audiofile. --Alazon (talk) 10:28, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The audio file does not represent a typical native pronunciation! The speaker's first contribution is Bochum, there are many other files with names from all over Germany, but many of them are from the Ruhr region, and that's where I suspect him to come from. He's neither a native speaker from Karlsruhe nor does he speak perfect Hochdeutsch. --Sitacuisses (talk) 11:37, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

text: It's at least a very normal pronunciation; on the German discussion page I have shown attestations from German TV newsshows. The IPA installed by my respected colleague, however, is utterly unrealistic - you'd be afraid if you really had to listen to it :) -- This is a discussion abouth whether "standard" is a norm imposed on speakers or whether it's the empirically attested usage. It's up to en-wikipedia to decide what they want here ... --Alazon (talk) 11:49, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There are lots of "very normal  pronunciations", so I don't understand what's your point. Petra Gerster's (professional presenter) pronunciation is better than the Commons file:  --Sitacuisses (talk) 12:14, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

text: "better" of cours means "suits your ideas" :-) And phonetically, I am quite sure there's no r-consonant in her pronunciation but just a less frontal [a]. Let's simply stop this discussion, English readers must have had enough by now... --Alazon (talk) 13:12, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of the name 

message: The 'Main Sites' section's 3 cites-needed refs.have been researched,and indeed,the claims made in the wanting section are sorely bogus. Rewrite? I would,but,apart from now knowing the 3 superlatives were wishful at best,I know nothing of Karlsruhe.Bjhodge8 (talk) 15:47, 3 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Sites Section 

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message: I was not able to find any source for this, neither in the German version nor in search result.
Typically, German words start with K instead of C.
-- Mr. L  (Talk / Contrib) 09:00, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  When was the city called Carlsruhe? 

message: The Paracelsus Hospital did close since 2018-02-28  See: https://ka.stadtwiki.net/Paracelsus-Klinik
But there is also a Hospital for cardiosurgery See: https://ka.stadtwiki.net/Klinik_f%C3%BCr_Herzchirurgie  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:E8:472E:D300:A4F2:33A1:5AF7:7E96 (talk) 23:58, 29 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hospitals 

message: Seauton I believe you made a small mistake by inserting this category  into the text. The text refers to the main cemetery of Karlsruhe (Haupfriedhof) the category you inserted though is about the old cemetery (Alter Friedhof) which is not in use anymore … they are situated in different parts of the town.--Catflap08 (talk) 08:43, 1 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem wasn't am major issue anyway, Thanks.--Catflap08 (talk) 17:18, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Alter Friedhof (Karlsruhe) 

message: Mannheim is also described as the second largest city in Baden-Würtemberg 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mannheim
:In terms of number of inhabitants both cities are approximately the same size. One year one of them is the second largest city in Baden-Württemberg, next year it is the other. This may also be due to the varying number of students registered as residents at the respective registration office. --Catflap08 (talk) 07:49, 10 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: This is true, but it makes sense to keep it updated with the last figures. For the time being, it seems that Karlsruhe is the third largest city in Baden-Württemberg, and so must be specified in the page. --Almicione (talk) 07:55, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size / Size ranking 

message: Why is the airport mentioned in the opening blurb - along with two size relations (2nd in BW, 17th in DE)?
As the "17th" suggests, it is an airport of only minor relevance and certainly not something the city is either known or notable for. If we want to include any transport-related info in the blurb, why not mention the Karlsruhe Stadtbahn instead, which is notable for the Karlsruhe model it pioneered? 79.209.8.84 (talk) 21:10, 3 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Airport / Stadtbahn 

message: This appears on the Buffalo Bill Wikipedia page
"In 1891, Buffalo Bill performed in Karlsruhe, Germany, in the Südstadt Quarter. The inhabitants of Südstadt are nicknamed Indianer (German for "American Indians") to this day, and the most accepted theory says that this is due to Buffalo Bill's show."
I've even heard that some Native performers in Buffalo Bill's show got into a dispute with him during the performance in Karlsruhe and decided to stay. I don't know if that's true, but there are apparently some German sources for it. Should this be mentioned?ItsRainingCatsAndDogsAndMen (talk) 15:18, 8 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buffalo Bill? 

message: The number of different ways to pronounce the name in the opening sentence seems like overkill:
* Karlsruhe ( ,  , ; South Franconian: Kallsruh) is ...
Perhaps hide some of this into a note or remove altogether? 2A00:1398:4:9003:82E8:2CFF:FEEC:B393 (talk) 13:09, 8 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening sentence