Talk:Miracinonyx

message: According to The Independent, we now have DNA evidence that the Miracinonyx's closest living relative is in fact the Puma, and that their MRCA lived about thee million years ago, both descended from a "puma-like cat" that entered North America around six million years ago. See http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_technology/article304652.ece — B.Bryant 11:33, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: A better information about the same subject (I think is the original source, since the Independent Article now is payed), It's at:
http://abc.zoo.ox.ac.uk/Papers/currbiol05_cats.pdf
Camahuetos 01:28, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: DNA reveals closest relative

message: Perhaps M. studeri is also a valid species (See: Cheetah#Genetics and classification)--Altaileopard (talk) 08:22, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  M. studeri 

message: Howdy User:UtherSRG. I need a clarification from you on a point of style. I added quotes around "American cheetahs" in the first sentence. You removed the quotes. My reasoning: "The American cheetahs (genus Miracinonyx) were at least two species of felines similar the the Cheetah." I.e., they weren't Acinonyx, i.e., they weren't really cheetahs, i.e., the quotes are appropriate. Why did you remove the quotes? Wikifully, 201.50.251.197 02:00, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They are called "American cheetahs" in many scientific writings  although they are also called "cheetah-like cats". But it looks soundly like the common name for species in this genus is "American cheetahs". As such, it doesn't need quotes in the article (although my quotes here are appropriate since we're discussing the term and not the cats themselves). - UtherSRG (talk) 12:05, 28 February 2007 (UTC)

text: The initial paragraph has the explanation, plus the link to the Puma genus article. That is sufficient. - UtherSRG (talk) 08:57, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need clarification from [[User:UtherSRG]] 

message: If there is something wrong about the picture, can someone point out to me what needs to/should be corrected?  But if it's simply a matter of taste, can someone point out where in Wikipedia it says it's ok to (re)start edit wars over one's personal tastes or distastes?--Mr Fink (talk) 12:05, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's why I asked the question I did in my edit summary. - UtherSRG (talk) 14:44, 16 September 2008 (UTC)

text: If you'll look, you'll see the subject of this article (both species, in fact) are extinct. The image is not supposed to be a picture *of* an American cheetah. It is an artist's impression of what an American cheetah might have looked like. The picture is not photoshopped, per se, as it doesn't come from a photograph. (And no, the art isn't mine.) Please refrain from  using snide comments. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:58, 6 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Concerns About The Picture

message: Hello, given the state of current taxonomic knowledge about this genus it seems that reference to it as a "cheetah" is inappropriate. Most likely a name like "plains puma" or "running puma" would be more appropriate as a common name. Until the taxonomic situation is clarified, and an appropriate common name becomes widespread, I suggest renaming this article "Miracinonyx" and turning "American_cheetah" into a redirect page. --Hrimpurstala (talk) 13:23, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested name change 

message: The intro text claims it's Pliocene, but then lists dates in the Pleistocene.  Which is it? Mokele (talk) 01:14, 20 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  date? 

message: Giant Cheethsa are related to modern cheethas  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.14.221.107 (talk) 18:11, 14 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  new information 

message: As per WP:CONSISTENCY and general policy/consensus regarding prehistoric genera, I propose to move this page to Miracinonyx.--SilverTiger12 (talk) 20:46, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed Move 

message: @Leo1pard's most recent edit has a lot of good changes but one very much confuses me: under "See also," the only text is "[giant bbc." I'm sure this is unintentional, but I cannot guess what it was supposed to say. DancingGrumpyCattalk | (ze/zir or she/her) 04:45, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  See also "[giant bbc"? 

message: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/360719486_MIRACINONYX_TRUMANI_CARNIVORA_FELIDAE_FROM_THE_RANCHOLABREAN_OF_THE_GRAND_CANYON_ARIZONA_AND_ITS_IMPLICATIONS_FOR_THE_ECOLOGY_OF_THE_AMERICAN_CHEETAH (Miracinonyx trumani (Carnivora; Felidae) from the Rancholabrean of the Grand Canyon, Arizona and its implications for the ecology of the “American Cheetah”)
SuperTah (talk) 18:28, 28 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source bank 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: Page moved. (closed by non-admin page mover)  Jerium (talk) 20:33, 12 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: American cheetah →  – With very few exceptions, Wikipedia for fossil taxons should use the taxonomic name rather than an informal one, and there's not much evidence for a preference for "American cheetah" over "Miracinonyx" in the paleontological record since it can definitely be misleading. Also recent research suggests that Miracinonyx isn't really a convergent example with Acinonyx like previously thought, especially since M. trumani retains retractable claws that cripple its ability to run further but allow it to grapple prey like its closest relative Puma concolor and unlike A. jubatus. It is proposed that M. trumani had a unique predatory behavior overall that has no living analogues.   PrimalMustelid (talk) 20:06, 5 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 5 May 2023 

message: just proposing a less drastic turn of phrase. speed is relative and any predator which could catch a pronghorn is obviously very fast. perhaps retractable claws means it is not cheetah-fast so how about "'reduced' its ability to run fast" 69.251.47.164 (talk) 23:22, 23 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Crippled" its ability to run fast