Talk:Ali al-Hadi

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message: Family tree starting from Imam Ali Naqi is called as NAQVI family which can be largely found in India, Pakistan, Iran & Iraq.
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Shadab Naqvi —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.80.37.124 (talk) 06:46, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family of Imam Ali Hadi (Naqi) 

message: Hello. I am going to improve this article a little bit using reliable sources.Hadi (talk) 16:14, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Improving the article

message: There is no conclusion over three sons or seven.  Why it is considered necessary to place a full stop after mentioning three sons.  Therefore it is necessary to evaluate the reliability of reference being emphasized with the availability of an ISBN # and its publishing in English language by a foreign expert (his dignity is recognized, but critical view is our right).  In my discussion  Abu Mikhnaf is one of primary sources per norm of social science (history).
*: Primary sources: relate to an event, written by someone who experienced or witnessed the event in question by  letters, memoirs, journals, speeches, manuscripts, etc.
*:Secondary sources: function to interpret primary sources.  Secondary sources interpret to assign value and draw conclusions about the events reported in primary sources.
 
When evaluating primary or secondary sources, the very basis warrants to know:
::(i)How does the author know these details
::(ii) Was the author present at the event or soon on the scene? 
::(iii) Where does this information come from, i.e. personal experience, eyewitness, or reports written by others?
Thus the reliability of an scholar (Wilferd Madelung ) belonging to a belated period (20th century) depending on single source of tenth century does not sense to overrule the very old primary source of 8th century  which is not only supported by millions of naqvis/naqavis  of the world (particularly the sub-continent) but also evident from the various published (secondary) sources e.g. Gulzar-e-Naqi (Riaz ulnasab), compiled with the help of 38 books annexing 40 pedigrees, by a family member of Ali Naqi Naqvi .  The writer belongs to well educated family, his two elder brothers were college principals in colleges of  Punjab.  Among his brothers Dr. Sohail Bukhari was an authority in Urdu Literature  in his time besides being an author for Punjab Text Books for school and colleges.
In view of above discussion the section which provides explanation to the confusion in numbering and names of sons should remain in the main article for research and reference, in terms of EN-WP being  the tertiary source. Nannadeem (talk) 18:01, 3 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Sons of Ali al-Hadi (Imam Ali Naqi)

message: According to general rule, no primary source can be deleted.  Acceptance or rejection is discussed in secondary source and comments/explanations provided therein are evaluated by groups and schools.  However a primary sources may or may not be a truth e.g. the theory of 04 elements (air, water, fire and sand) is classic primary source, rejected in secondary sources of the modern era.  
Thus, treaty of Hasan-Muawiya  and primary sources relating to the event can be discussed in secondary sources per Doctrine of Repugnancy in view of conflicts and wars between Ali & Muawiya and our stance of silence with respect to events  of that time was force meajure.  Battle of Karbala is the final proof under retrospective doctrine of history which also validates our strategy for avoidance of bloodshed and provision of guidance with no greed for dominance. In this scinerio a number of events were recorded as primary source, many of these events contradict to each other, which is a bone of contest in our secondary sources.Nannadeem (talk) 20:13, 8 March 2015 (UTC)
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message: @ user:3hunna I think "Internet Meme" section should not be placed in the page in order to avoid like stories whether retrospective or prospective.  Nannadeem (talk) 13:32, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
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