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Talk:Hinduism/Archive 3

message: Does anyone know how to edit the msg thing at the very bottom for Hinduism? It should include Yoga and Tantra to be complete.--LordSuryaofShropshire 02:23, Apr 2, 2004 (UTC)
:Its at Template:Hinduism -- Arvindn 03:30, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hindu msg 

message: "Often, critics of the Hindu/Vedic tradition will use the term Brahminical to imply a karma-kanda, or ritual-based mode of worship, sort of stuck in the four Vedic books and Brahamanas (Vedic ritual books). However, it is widely acknowledged that those who wrote the mystic verse of the Upanishads were in all likelihood Brahmins as well."
:I seem to recall my translation (Robert Hume's) of the Upaniṣads mentioning there being considerable evidence for kṣatriya authorship. Not that I'm asserting that there's something contradictory about being mystical and Brahmin at the same time...
I have the Hume translation but am still studying Ghosh and Radhakrishnan (also Easwaran). Why don't you add that in? I would, however, like to see if his opinion has ever been seconded by other comparable scholars. --LordSuryaofShropshire 20:58, Apr 2, 2004 (UTC)
:Understandable. At some point in the quasi-near future I'll try to track down my copy and pull the appropriate sections, and see whom he footnotes.
:: My Hume copy has been dusted and I have read what you saw. In fact, what you're referring to are the teachings imparted to scholars within the context of the Upanishad. Meaning, tropes utilized were that the varnas were turned on their heads by the teaching of a Brahmin by a Vaishya or a Kshatriya king, much like Janaka. But this implies nothing, from my reading, about the actual composers of the Upanishads and Aranyakas. In essence, what is most likely is that a Brahmin/priest writing the Upanishad, sought to impress the point of castelessness and unified identity. Traditional norms were reversed and thus emphasized the nature of the soul transcending ritualism or mere intellectualism and, instead, embracing an intuition that is shared equally by all members of humanity, regardless of social status. --LordSuryaofShropshire 17:31, Apr 5, 2004 (UTC)
:::I dug mine out and came to pretty much the same conclusion. (doffs hat)कुक्कुरोवाच 14:33, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Question Re:Authorship of the Upanishads
Talk:Strategic Army Corps

message: Google for "Strategic Army Corps" has about 183 hits.
Army War College paper might be especially authoritative.
I expanded this article into a start class. Though more detail needs to be addede to move it to B class. JamesESJ 14:44, 26 March 2007 (UTC)

message: This section is accurate, but it needs sourcing. Rklawton (talk) 01:55, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Other definitions
Talk:Rhinoceros

message: The weights reported in the wiki text for Indian rhinos are significantly larger than those reported in the cited source. They need to be fixed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.115.60.49 (talk) 04:04, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong weights for Indian rhinos 

message: These sentences :
:"The collective noun for a group of rhinoceroses is crash or herd. The name has been in use since the 14th century.[8]"
should be reversed as such : 
:"The name has been in use since the 14th century.[8] The collective noun for a group of rhinoceroses is crash or herd."
Their original order makes it seem like the subject of the second sentence is referring to the collective noun for rhinoceroses, but it's referring to the name rhinoceros.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by RyeKou (talk • contribs) 17:19, 28 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editing suggestion
Talk:Him

message: This page needs to be disambiguated (see Talk:H.I.M.) --Iceager 03:51, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)

message: I changed "an U.S." to "a U.S."  Vinaduro ¤ Talk 12:12, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar 

message: He is him Baileyykidd (talk) 08:50, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jay Carter
Talk:Phanes

message: Is that really Roman Mithras, "the Bull-Slayer" (2nd cty BC -- 5th cty AD), or rather Persian Mithra of the Zoroastrian (before Christ)?Jorge Stolfi 04:02, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: I see no discussion of the *direct* reference to "Greek mythology", although this is rather questionable. Phanes is no mythological figure. I would suggest to first link to Orpheus, 2. to Neoplatonism (important) and only in 3d place to mythology, or leave that out altogether. Obviously the lemma has to be expanded also.
Bibh wkp 20:37, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Placement of this article

message: This article has no sources at all. ICE77 (talk) 19:51, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources missing 

message: To whom it may concern,
Found this article wanting to know more about Phanes, clicked on the citation to David Livingstone's "The Dying God," and with minimal digging found that Livingstone's books peddle anti-Semitic nonsense about how the course of history has secretly been manipulated for centuries by a shadowy group of sinister Kabbalists looking to take over the world. He's no "scholar," just a conspiracy theorist (his personal website is actually called "Conspiracy School," for crying out loud.) I'm deleting the citation to his work. Please be more careful.
Wescott06 (talk) 00:52, 28 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  David Livingstone Is Not A Reputable Source
Talk:Trap–neuter–return

message: I noticed that here , some text, , cited to Nature, was moved from one subsection ("Reduced population over time") to another subsection about animal shelter kill rates, which completely changes the meaning of the text. This is not at all neutral to the original source , which is about feral cats being one of the worst invasive species in the world and which is overtly anti-TNR. Now it's being used in a pro-TNR context. Geogene (talk) 20:09, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I also see that that later disappeared completely, and that the article now contains an enormous number of broken references. Geogene (talk) 20:15, 30 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, neither of those are good changes.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  20:38, 2 May 2019 (UTC)

text: Can we revert this article back to this version ? The post-April version is just not an improvement. A lot of references are gone, and a huge chunk of text on wildlife impacts also disappeared. Geogene (talk) 19:54, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: A revert certainly sounds reasonable to me. Removal of sourced information is clearly a WP:BRD matter.  However, I would be cautious about intervening edits made by others; it's not fair to nuke everyone's input to fix one person's mistake or PoV. Integrating minor good-faith edits can be tedious but is necessary.  I've not pored over the diffs, so I'm not sure there are any to account for in this case; just making a general statement about major/mass reverts.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  20:38, 2 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent edits

message: Is this method not also used on feral dogs? Why is everything about cats? Finnigami (talk) 22:23, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Because nearly all the sources out there on TNR are specifically about TNR on cats. If it were humane, effective, and cheap, as its proponents claim, you'd think they'd be TNR'ing rats and a dozen other invasive mammals that aren't "charismatic" and aren't widely kept as pets, but they aren't. Geogene (talk) 23:28, 2 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dogs 

message: I’d just like to point out how this article’s (huge) lead section reads almost like a high school purposive essay against the subject. This is even stranger because looking back a couple years ago the article had the complete opposite POV issue. The last sentence of the lead is particularly bad.
The “advocacy and opposition” section is also weird, basically just a huge block of quotes. Ironmatic1 (talk) 00:52, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd like to see a proposed re-write of that lead, with sourcing. And I agree the advocacy and opposition section should probably go. Geogene (talk) 00:55, 5 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange POV issues (still?)
Talk:Demeter

message: Chadwick believes that the name "demeter" does not have any resemblance with the name "mother", However he accepts that the element "da" means earth . ( Compare E-ne-si-da-o-ne: Earth shaker, a translation given by Ventris and Chadwick.). This root appears also in the nanes "dapurito" (labyrinth) and Phadamanthys. Therefore it is more possible that the word Demeter is related with the Cretan word for barley, or that it is Pre-Greek.Jestmoon(talk) 21:32, 17 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Does the author of this know of any active old world mysteries or cults that can be contacted by phone or email or other wireless means?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Disciple1989 (talk • contribs) 18:55, 26 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cult or mystery 

message: Hey, 
I’m really into Greek gods but it would be cool if you put on here who the god/goddess was last dating or who they are married to 2A02:C7F:5633:9A00:B53F:C5CA:BFA5:2833 (talk) 07:51, 14 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion 

message: Best not to remove partial references without checking thoroughly. The partial ref citing Dalby is almost certainly  (US ) 
The alternative (his only other work published in 2005) is Venus, a biography but I've no access to either work
I can't cope with these formats and templates, and don't wish to try. So could whoever well-meaningly removed the partial Dalby ref please oblige with a restoration? Or tag it for mending? Details as above. PS: I've already restored the inline short ref-link. Haploidavey (talk) 17:35, 13 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Haploidavey (talk) 07:42, 14 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing reference, Dalby 

message: Minor criticism, but it seems like neither the section "In Crete" nor "Greek mainland" really discusses only Crete/Greek Mainland. Both sections are about findings in Crete, Pylos and Mykenai. 2003:CD:6F06:ED00:29B5:969:DC46:8155 (talk) 12:24, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "In Crete?"
Talk:Red River Floodway

message: While Fargo and Grand Forks are looking at diversion projects, they're directly relevant to the Red River Floodway article.  
Can we remove this section?
Prk166 (talk) 00:19, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I would agree that the US diversion projects are not directly related, but they are related in that they deal with the same river, and have suffered similar floods to Winnipeg. One of the major reasons they would consider a diversion project would be the success of the Red River Floodway in Winnipeg.  So to my mind, this section is relevant, and should be kept. Cheers—fudoreaper (talk) 01:47, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: It's two relevant sentences in a not-overly-long article. I'd leave them in. --Wtshymanski (talk) 13:30, 8 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Considerations in the United States 

message: I am doing a project on this right now.  I live in Winnipeg, Manitoba so I have first-hand research.
-jr
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:It is one of three man made structures that can be seen from space (low Earth orbit): The others are the Great Wall of China and the Suez Canal.  (There is a myth that the Floodway, along with the Great Wall of China, can be seen from the moon.  This is false—no manmade structure can be seen from the moon.)
According to this, a great many man-made structures can be seen from a low Earth orbit. - Montréalais 16:23, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I'd like to know more about other cities with flood control ditches of similar scale - a litle context for the Red River Floodway would be helpful. Or is it the only one of its kind? --Wtshymanski (talk) 16:34, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There's nothing quite like this dam but there are other dams on the red river like it just look up red river lock and dam 1-5 216.73.79.20 (talk) 13:32, 18 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Other similar projects?

message: Wikipedia currently states: 
The Red River Floodway Expansion was completed in late 2010 at a final cost of more than $665,000,000 CAD.
This web site says $665,000,000 is the budget.
Final cost is The project was finally completed at $38m, below the initially estimated budget of $665m in March 2014.
Web page is : http://www.water-technology.net/projects/red-river-floodway-expansion-project/
I suggest we make changes to the current text accordingly
for reference:
http://www.water-technology.net/projects/red-river-floodway-expansion-project/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Saindon (talk • contribs) 12:13, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:   Final cost of the project.
Talk:EADS Astrium Space Transportation

message: Not only concerning this company, but all of the French and German space companies, I think we need a sort of framework history article. Especially the original French Aerospatiale and Matra and the German ERNO and Dornier satellites companies have been through so many name changes that their history is now very hard to track UsagiYojimbo 09:10, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
Talk:Thomas Cochrane, 10th Earl of Dundonald

message: I haven't stopped by here in a while... just noticed the collapsible ancestry table is gone. Were there particular objections to it? If not I might reinstate it. Comes.amanuensis (talk) 03:23, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Just wanted to reiterated- if there are no objections, I'll reinstate the Ancestry section. I'll wait a couple of days before proceeding. Comes.amanuensis (talk) 04:53, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancestry 

message: I agree that the literal translation of the French "Le Loup des mers" is "The Wolf of the Seas". However, that is not the idiomatic way that it is translated into English and most English writers translate as the Sea Wolf. See the following refs
http://sydneymediajam.com/sitebuilder/2012/10/22/cochrane-the-man-napoleon-called-the-sea-wolf/ 
http://www.amazon.ca/Cochrane-The-Real-Master-Commander/dp/1400155428
http://www.amazon.co.uk/The-Sea-Wolf-Admiral-Cochrane/dp/1843410079
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/history/making_history/makhist10_prog12a.shtml
https://books.google.ca/books?id=3X47AAAAQBAJ&pg=PT50&lpg=PT50&dq=Cochrane+le+loup+des+mers&source=bl&ots=BY_oyaLC4M&sig=veMuNoBWfD99InD25vukdhxUZcE&hl=en&sa=X&ei=XyBfVZ-NAov4yAT914OABQ&ved=0CEYQ6AEwCA#v=onepage&q=Cochrane%20le%20loup%20des%20mers&f=false
Dabbler (talk) 12:34, 22 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: right.--Joe McNeill (talk) 09:41, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: French translation - literal or correct?{{done}}

message: Forester mentions Cochrane twice in the Hornblower books, once negatively (possibly referring to his political complaints), once positively about coastal shelling of land forces.
108.18.136.147 (talk) 23:52, 30 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forester 

message: The lead includes the sentence:
"He was successful in virtually all his naval actions."
Whether true or now, my inclination is that this isn't a particularly encyclopaedic way of conveying his success. I would suggest rephrasing this to a more neutral form. Thoughts?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fractalfalcon (talk • contribs) 01:12, 21 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears to be a true statement, however you're right the wording leaves a lot to be desired. Perhaps "He was and remains well noted for his consistent success throughout his naval career and variety of engagements." or something similar? Then cite some references after 'noted' that exemplify this. 86.5.160.43 (talk) 17:16, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Virtually all?
Talk:Complete blood count

message: The narrative description below the table incorrectly describes three of the analyte results as "mean". They should instead be called "low" as all three results are below their respective normal reference ranges. For example, the normal range for the analyte MCV is 77-98 so the tabled result of 76 should be described as "low red cell volume (MCV)" rather than "mean red cell volume (MCV)". Hup E. Lee (talk) 04:34, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Mean cell volume, mean cell hemoglobin and mean cell hemoglobin concentration are the actual names of the analytes. I've rephrased the caption to avoid confusion. Spicy (talk) 08:40, 14 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I see my confusion now. I tripped on our English language rules. Your rephrased caption is clear. Awesome article Spicy! Hup E. Lee (talk) 23:02, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  table: Sample CBC in microcytic anemia
Talk:Sufi whirling

message: This is a fairly silly How-To  rather than an encyclopaedic article. I will try and re-organise everything a bit. All cut bist of text will be pasted below to make it easier for peole who do nt agree with me. Refdoc 21:19, 17 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Edit 

message: This article needs to be somewhat rewritten, because it claims that  "Sufi Whirling" is only practiced amongst Sufis of Turkey. This is wrong. It is also practiced amongst Qalandariya and Qadirya Sufis of South Asia, the Middle East and elsewhere, though it is not the only Dhikr inducing practice.
Sufism as well as Sufi practices have absolutely nothing to do with modern Turkey's nationalistic pariotism nor does it wants to be portrayed as postcard tourism. It also needs to be mentioned that the practice has been outlawed by secular Turkey and has only recently be re-allowed to entertain foreign tourists.95.223.187.171 (talk) 10:03, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turkey ??

message: U can call it the sufi(dance)!!! But otherwise great job!!! The drakon (talk) 15:54, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title! 

message: A discussion related to this article is underway at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Whirling. Ibadibam (talk) 23:55, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notice of relevant discussion 

message: I have  to better integrate the recently merged content into the article.
*Moved CNN source to "Today" section. This source didn't really discuss tanoura or non-Sufi whirling, but did talk about recent changes, so I added content from the source.
*Rewrote tanoura section to better explain connections to the Turkish tradition
*Removed cluttered images and replaced with a more representative image of tanoura
*Removed some merged-in content originally from whirling, as it's redundant to the discussions of history and Sufi meaning already covered in this article
*Condensed content merged from whirling per WP:UNDUE
*Removed links to websites of performers, which appear to be promotional
*Split off world records into a separate section, and added sourced information about other record holders
*Moved several refs to "external links", as these were not directly supporting any content in the article that I could ascertain, but may be worked back into the article in the future
Going forward, it would be nice to get a few more sources about tanoura in Egypt, which are probably out there in ethnomusicological sources and travel literature. Ibadibam (talk) 02:48, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes after merge 

message: To be incorporated:
* 
There's a lot in there. Ibadibam (talk) 19:50, 22 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source on Pakistani practice
Talk:Geography of Andorra

message: "about five times smaller" is nonsense.  You need to say "Andorra is one-fifth of the area of the Australian Capital Territory" or invert the sentence to say "The Australian Capital Territory is five times the area of Andorra".
Coastline is also nonsense. The well known article 'What is the length of the coastline of England,' which launched fractal mathmatics, explains why. Essentially the smaller the measuring instrument, the longer the coastline. Cheers. Acuster 08:44, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Angelina Jolie

message: Angelina Jolie Parents 4 Pillars Love, Divorce, Family Bonds
== Angelina Jolie’s Parents: Unraveling Family Bonds and a Complex Father-Daughter Relationship ==
Angelina Jolie, a prominent figure in the world of entertainment, has mesmerized audiences with her talent and charisma. Behind her enigmatic persona lies the story of her parents and the intricacies of their relationships.
=== Jon Voight and Marcheline Bertrand Angelina Jolie’s parents,: The Influential Forces in Angelina’s Life ===
Jon Voight, a renowned actor, and Marcheline Bertrand, an accomplished actress, are Angelina Jolie’s parents. Their union brought forth not only Angelina but also her older brother, James Haven, and her younger sister, Vivienne Marcheline Jolie-Pitt. However, Angelina’s childhood was marked by her parents’ divorce, leading her to navigate the complexities of shared custody and divided time.
source mine Angelina Jolie Parents 4 Pillars Love, Divorce, Family Bonds
Angelina Jolie Parents 4 Pillars Love, Divorce, Family Bonds
== anj ==
Angelina Jolie's Mother 7 Best Lessons She Taught HerAngelina Jolie’s Mother Tisu2 (talk) 01:44, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I set url-status=dead for "Silverman 2002". Peaceray (talk) 23:04, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: = Angelina Jolie’s Parents:4 Pillars Love, Divorce, Family Bonds, Complex Relationship 

message: Angelina Jolie's Mother 7 Best Lessons She Taught HerAngelina Jolie’s Mother Tisu2 (talk) 01:44, 18 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  anj 

message: , , , , , , , , ,  
The citation following "Jolie has had a lifelong dysfunctional relationship with her father ..." leads to an August 2 article no longer at People though an archived version included in the citation is at the Wayback Machine.https://web.archive.org/web/20150118114229/http://www.people.com/people/article/0,,624430,00.html 
Since the title link now leads to a brief biography of Voight url-status=live needs editing. Perhaps the whole citation should be replaced with an 8 August article which includes the relevant part of the earlier article (of which there are 5 archived versions at the WM).https://web.archive.org/web/20221001000000*/https://people.com/celebrity/no-thaw-in-jolie-voight-relationship/ Mcljlm (talk) 19:48, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I set url-status=dead for "Silverman 2002". Peaceray (talk) 23:04, 9 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''People'' articles
Talk:Bennett

message: Article listed on Wikipedia:Votes for deletion Apr 14 to Apr 20 2004, consensus failed to be reached within the time limit.  Discussion:
* Surname articles belong in wiktionary. -- Graham  :) | Talk 13:02, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion

message: I agree with the last comment there. There is a lot of room to expand this entry from a simple list. Like:
*Origin 
*Coat of arms 
*Family tree 
*Famous Bennetts - Tony Bennet
And the list of people with the name Bennett would just be an addition tagge on the end. There are plenty of other entries like this White (surname) and things like the above would certainly make the entry more generally interesting to the general reader. (Emperor 20:33, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Expanding