Talk:Nathalie Handal

message: Thanks to those who have responded to me ab out this, I also repost here by request a note from User:NatHandal in response to the OTS ticket:
You can ref the above OTRS ticket as permission for the image, and if anyone wants to help Nat to get acquainted with Wikipedia and how to work with us, please do feel free to pitch in. Guy (Help!) 11:04, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Message from NatHandal 

message: "Kid gloves" were made from the skin of a young goat or lamb or similar. Such gloves were softer and finer than gloves made from harder leathers, and so became a symbol of elegance and gentility in the early 1800s. The term "handle with kid gloves" thus means to be very gentle or tactful.
Why are editors handling this subject (Handal) with kid gloves? It's sickening, unbecoming, and not of a "neutral tone". The article was riddled with conflicts of interest. "Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a forum for advertising or self-promotion, or a vanity press. As such, it should contain only material that complies with its content policies, and Wikipedians must place the interests of the encyclopedia first. Any editor who gives priority to outside interests may be subject to a conflict of interest."
Henry Delforn (talk) 04:34, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The author has not edited this article since November, 2008. It's a fairly short article, and not too promotional. Could you be more specific about the problems that you see? EdJohnston (talk) 18:19, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The problems go back in time, per history. It was facinating to read and follow. I have a theory concerning wiki history: if analyzed fully, it can say alot about the personalities involved, revealing much more character that just talking to the parties. Anyway, the last problem corrected involved using a citation which was not an independent secondary source for the stated "facts". The citation was not only produced by the subject in trying to confirm the statement which was made originally in-part by the subject, but also, the citation had absolutely no content regarding the stated "facts" in question. The citation removed was downloaded and fully read to confirm that it was a completely inappropriate citation. I am not certain that I want to continue an in-depth inspection of all other citations and/or references. Perhaps over time we can discuss further edits, thanks for your interest. Henry Delforn (talk) 22:29, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Clarification. It has been correctly brought to my attention that the citation in question above is not what i thought it was. Indeed, the citation: "Handal, Nathalie (2004), My country, my words:Reflections on a life as a writer, in Darraj, Susan Muaddi, Scheherazade's Legacy: Arab and Arab American Women on Writing, Greenwood Publishing Group, pp. 37–48, " can be easily and incorrectly looked up as: "Nathalie Handal - My country, my words:Reflections on a life as a writer" which is a different book source from . These are two different books. The former has a 2001 copyright while the latter is 2004. The 2001 book is the source which i have been refering to above, not the 2004 copyright book.Henry Delforn (talk) 22:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's with the kid gloves? 

message: NOTE: This post by NHANDAL Moved here from Help talk:Using talk pages by — JohnFromPinckney (talk) 17:17, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talk. Nathalie Handal 

message: which one is she? i don't think i would use a photo of two people on an individual's blp. is the photo allowed to be cropped? if so, i can do that and re-add it. (but which one is she????)  Soosim (talk) 09:34, 23 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: She's the one on the right. The image is licensed under CC-BY 2.0, so you can edit it all you want. Just keep it under the same license, link to the original photo, and credit the same author. Someguy1221 (talk) 19:29, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't have to be under the same license. If it did, it would be licensed as CC-BY-SA with the SA (share alike) indicating it would be the same license.--Rockfang (talk) 00:43, 25 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  photo 

message: need i say more? Soosim (talk) 17:28, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, Soosim.  I can confirm by OTRS that the above account NatHandal is editing in good faith trying to correct and source some things.  In particular, Nathalie Handal would make to make it clear that she identifies as French-American, not Haitian-American simply because she was of Haitian birth.  References are here and here.  NatHandal, I invite you to log-in and participate in this conversation to help the article improve.  Keegan (talk) 06:02, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

text: Thank you for your patience and time, and to the editors watching the article.  I hope this can resolve the situation for now, and welcome to Wikipeida, NatHandal. Keegan (talk) 07:07, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

text: I'm going to agree with Ms. Handal (who doesn't have to talk about herself in the 3rd person). Someone being born in Haiti doesn't mean they're Haitian. No More Mr Nice Guy (talk) 00:45, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: NatHandal - are you nathalie? if not, we need to know because you are being given the benefit of the doubt here. thanks. nothing but good faith, but also, nothing but wikipedia reality is allowed in this alternate universe...  Soosim (talk) 18:29, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The NatHandal account has been blocked and I registered my protest there.  Soosim, I can confirm by email that NatHandal is the subject of the article.  All she ever wanted was to not be labeled "Haitian-American".  She got that wish as the article stands, so we're best leaving it alone at that.  That was her only concern.  Keegan (talk) 05:53, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
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