Talk:Mick Ronson

message: Should not Hunky Dory appear in the Glory Years section, since it was the first Bowie/Ronson co-production - plus Ronson featuring on Piano and Arrangements? Other than Rick Wakeman, this is the studio band that became The Spiders from Mars.
:Yes, it should.  Well spotted, and over to you, dear friend, to effect the amendment.  I am from Mick Ronson's hometown of Hull.  My main rationale of input here, is to keep his memory alive, rather than to muscle in on a true Bowie historian's work.
:Derek R Bullamore 00:05, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, I own the three Ronson studio albums, a few Ian Hunter ones as well as the Dana Gillespie and Lou Reed records. However, compared to a few people I know I am a mere dabbler in the appreciation of Ronno - and I wasn't willing to cut into somebody elses contribution without a polite enquiry first. I will get the Hunky Dory reference in, and throw a Philip Rambow album mention in for good measure. For the time being I will leave the Slaughter and the Dogs credit out.LessHeard vanU 14:35, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: (Sigh...) Slaughter & The Dogs have a wikilink, and Phil Rambow doesn't. Another win by notoriety over talent... Mind you, I have been searching the second hand record shops for the Phil Rambow/Ronno album for years - if I could get any decent info on him I would create a stub article myself!LessHeard vanU 20:37, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added quite a bit more, especially the Bowie period and Ian Hunter collaberations. I fleshed out what I know of the Bob Dylan connection. It isn't comprehensive, but I am getting wary of exceeding Wiki's policy on too much input of a relative obscure artist. I will see if this gets edited down. If not I will add more, providing it links with established artists.LessHeard vanU 23:52, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hunky Dory

message: 'The glory years' does not strike me as a particularly encyclopaedic section header. Unless there are any objections, I will change it (when I think of something). Vanityjunkie 16:28, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is hard to think of a suitable replacement. Ronson's post Bowie work is critically generally well regarded, and is probably just as well liked by his fans. He just didn't get his name in the popular press as much (even though he may have made as much, or even more, money when he went freelance). Perhaps "Bowie Era" would cover his work with both little Davy Jones, Lou Reed, Mott, Dana Gillespie, and all that jazz? Then "Later Work" for Ian Hunter, Bob Dylan and all the (many) others? LessHeard vanU 19:48, 28 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Unfortunately no. I don't know anything about Mick Ronson - that's why I looked him up. But Bowie Era and Later Work does sound better.Vanityjunkie 09:01, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice job on the article. As a reward, find yourself some Ronno and enjoy! LessHeard vanU 12:23, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Section Headers

message: Was it 1970 as suggested here?
Ronson played on Bowie's second album, recorded in 1969, "David Bowie" (retitled Man Of Words, Man Of Music) on the track "Wild Eyed Boy From Freecloud". He also played on the re-recorded version of Memory Of A Free Festival the same year, which later appeared on the Ryokodisc reissue of the second David Bowie album (this time retitled Space Oddity). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.16.129.4 (talk) 18:02, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: From memory the guitarists around this time were John Cambridge and Keith Christmas. LessHeard vanU 18:32, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My memory would be wrong about the names, John Cambridge played drums... While Cambridge and Ronno had played together in the Rats from Hull, I am certain that Ronno didn't meet up with Bowie until just before the Holy, Holy single/Man Who Sold the World album. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:44, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Bowie's first meeting with Ronson?

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Mick Ronson.jpg

message: Over a year ago I started a campaign to have Mick inducted into the Rock n Roll Hall of Fame, Cleveland, Ohio, (Side Man category) One of the ways I am trying to get the selectors to be aware of this campaign was to initate a petition, this has since gained much momentum.
Around 4 months ago, Suzi Ronson joined the campaign, giving the whole project credibilty - and a much needed boost.
Since then Suzi has been in contact with, and had support from, several high profile artists and performers, also a member of the Hall of Fame's commitee, things are looking good.
However, I've attempted to place a message on this, Mick's wiki page, guiding people, via the MickRonson.com website (which is linked) where Suzi has written a message with a link directly to the petition, but for some reason this has not appeared on the page, Ideally it would be fantastic if there was a link directly to the petition ipetitions.com/petition/Ronno but would this be allowed?
Any help would be really appreciated, 
Cheers, Colin Blades Ronnohof (talk) 22:12, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Although I must agree that his induction into the Hall of Fame is a worthy cause, it does not belong in an encyclopedia.  Please review Wikipedia:What Wikipedia is not.  That kind of information is more appropriate at a fan site or blog.  Good luck, Alanraywiki (talk) 22:24, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

text: If there was an independent source referencing the campaign to get Ronno inducted that would be of encyclopedic value, providing some much needed cited notability to the subject, but as a venue for advocating same - Alanraywiki is correct, WP is not the appropriate place. LessHeard vanU (talk) 12:40, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

text: I don't think that just a link would be appropriate, either. See WP:ELNO #11.  Links to online petitions have been removed from articles in the past (e.g., to save a television show being canceled).  As noted by LessHeard VanU, a cited reference from a third-party is really the only way I can see this campaign being mentioned.  Alanraywiki (talk) 14:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Speaking of citations, would Ronnohof have a copy of "The Spider With the Platinum Hair" (or something similar), as this appears to be the only bio made regarding Ronno - the Bowie bio's are generally inconsistent about Ronson (although most paint him quite favourably). This article really does need some good references, and a good article might be considered as equal a memoriam for the man as a Hall of Fame investiture. LessHeard vanU (talk) 19:53, 13 May 2009 (UTC)

text: I will see if I can't pre-order it from Amazon. Thanks. LessHeard vanU (talk) 19:58, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Hall of Fame Induction

message: Since Ronson seems to have done a fair amount of work as an arranger, work involving orchestral instruments, I'd like to know what training he's had--especially what formal training he's had--if any (why I came here, actually). Whoever knows one way or the other please put something about it in the article. Thanks. TheScotch (talk) 20:05, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm reading "The Spider With The Platinum Hair" Ronson biography. From what it says it appears that Ronson studied piano and violin as a child and youth, at and after school, and his lessons included music theory. Presumably if he could read and write music for piano and violin then scoring other instruments would be fairly straightforward - however that is not indicated in the text so it cannot be included. I am fairly disappointed by the lack of authority in the book, as it is generally a retelling of other peoples accounts rather then something assembled from research. I am not going to get the quantity or quality of inline citations I thought I would... LessHeard vanU (talk) 20:36, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Training? 

message: It seems odd that there is only one single listed under this heading, and that from as late as 1994. From the little I know, there were two singles from Slaughter on Tenth Ave - the title track and Love Me Tender - not to mention the criminally underrated Billy Porter from Play Don't Worry (this does not mean it was underrated by criminals.) Don't think any of them charted to any great extent, though, if at all. Check out www.mickronson.com Zebideedoodah (talk) 23:46, 6 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singles 

message: All this article lacks are some nice photos of Ronno!  Surely there must be some out there that we can include?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.38.208.30 (talk) 15:04, 5 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:Fair use only allows us to use album covers on articles relating to the albums. Most good photo's of Ronno were taken by professional photographers, who are usually unwilling to provide images under WP's copyleft licenses. Most fan's photo's suck (those little 110 fixed focal camera's, with slow film, were the only ones you could sneak into concerts). This is true for most artists up into the 1990's. LessHeard vanU (talk) 11:07, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lack of photos is tragic 

message: Is this Mick Ronson playing the Fender Telecaster?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JOvgfOkxgQ&feature=related  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.25.40.117 (talk) 03:04, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup. Bowie's section of the Freddie Mercury tribute concert. Ronno plays "Heroes" and "All The Young Dudes" (Ian Hunter guest vocals). This is covered in the article. LessHeard vanU (talk) 11:09, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heroes Video 

message: Why no mention of cause of death? This seems to have been done for most other late rock musicians' articles.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.98.96.38 (talk) 08:03, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Lack of RS noting it, I should imagine. He had liver cancer, but what the actual cause of death was - which "complication" - might not be recorded. If you have a good reference for a cause of death, please add it. LessHeard vanU (talk) 21:38, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death 

message: Is it Suzy or Suzi Ronson? Both versions are used in the text.Vithar Alderland (talk) 12:22, 16 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Suzy/Suzi?

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message: The article on Mark Ronson claims that Mick Ronson had a son named Mark, who is not the same person. However this article lists his sons as Nicholas and Joachim. For what it is worth, I just looked at the two references that the Mark Ronson article cites for this claim, and neither appears to say that Mick Ronson had a son named Mark. 
Can someone clear this up and make the two articles consistent? I would but I do not have a definitive reference to cite.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.47.34.77 (talk) 16:36, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the statement from Mark Ronson's article.  Neither of the sources used to support it said anything about Mick having a different son named Mark.  --Jayron32 18:39, 14 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consistency with Mark Ronson article? 

message: Ronson’s rôle as producer and instrumentalist is in the Wikipedia articles on the group and the separate article on the album,”have a good time but get out alive”. Should this be cross referenced? 2600:1014:B0E5:6FAA:5091:6FA4:DE80:2EC2 (talk) 22:55, 2 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Work with 1980 “the Iron City Houserockers” lp as producer and instrumentalist