Talk:Lower-back tattoo

message: I think the gallery should be romoved. Wikipedia isn't a gallery for tramp stamps. One or two pictures would suffice. 129.120.244.58 01:44, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, although one or two illustrative photographs in the article would be useful. I've removed fair use images or images with uncertain copyright status or source, since they shouldn't be in galleries anyway. ~MDD4696 19:03, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove gallery 

message: "Generally, a lower back tattoo will be designed to emphasize the shape and curvature of the female figure." Not in my experience! Most of the ones I've seen (Hundreds, easily, if not thousands) are cookiecutter splats of butterflies, Tao circles, or sonething else that was NEITHER applied NOR designed with the particular young lady's physique in mind. The ones the author of the above sentence are thinking of are expensive, require custom work, and can't just be slapped on there on an evening's lark with one's clone friends. 68.123.46.53 17:26, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Other moral qualms arise if said female is hanging out with her own clones. Nidht (talk) 21:25, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

text: IMHO The comment was not meant in the spirit of disguise or creating optical illusion to fake a better curve. The comment was mean in the sense of drawing attention and causing one to linger on a particular area of a woman's shape and curvature. To be blunt the lower back is one of the last places to get fat thus showing the curvature of a healthy spine and pelvis. Additionally if the person is well-shaped the narrowing of the waist is also centered while viewing the tattoo. 69.23.121.234 (talk) 05:31, 2 December 2009 (UTC)

text: I think this section is new research research. 24.6.16.141 (talk) 21:26, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  This needs a citation. 

message: In German they are called "ass antlers"!! haha!
: Ass Antlers = "Arschgeweih". Heiko242 (talk) 12:04, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ass Antlers 

message: The term "tramp Stamp" is know worldwide now as the term for women who degrade their lower back area with a tattoo. The council of the American Medical Association had decided that this term is common with females. There are medical considerations that are not typical when a woman is need of surgery. The ink can cause infection and deters specific medical treatment to those with this type of tattoo, based on its location on the body.
Most men know that if a woman has a tattoo of this kind, that they are somewhat "easy" and not very educated. When a woman decides to get a tattoo, they want to bring instant notification to the public that they have a special mark upon their body and this is a turn off for men. So if women are going to get this type of tattoo, they need to understand that they will be judged by the tattoo and area of the marking.
"During the Game Design Challenge at the Game Developer's Conference in 2006, Gears of War designer Cliff Bleszinski publicly referred to lower back tattoos on women as 'tramp stamps.'"
I'm sure many more famous people have uttered "tramp stamps." Why is this guy the one quoted? Seems like insignificant trivia. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.246.125.135 (talk) 01:22, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Such a pre-1985 opinion. Got to be someone over 50. And the AMA comment is BS. Once the tat heals without infection I would wager only 2% of doctors would have any "medical" consideration (hey there are quacks in every occupation). And I would bet most those "medical considerations" are how much extra money they can get from a patient that does not want their tattoo ruined and thus requires an alternative surgical access. Truthfully other than skeletal trauma to the lower back or pelvis, I doubt that many medical procedures ever deal with the skin of the lower back.69.23.121.234 (talk) 05:42, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cliff Bleszinski? 

message: HALP!!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.94.7.33 (talk) 20:46, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: strongly seconded. i added Template:sources. it seems most applicable, given my limited knowledge of these templatey things. --24.225.128.134 (talk) 23:11, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is terrible! 

message: Was it a man or a women who came up with that slang?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.43.219.134 (talk) 19:03, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've heard it called "reading material", but I don't think it's relevant to the article. -Jaz Mcdougall not bothering to log in  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.71.121.46 (talk) 02:33, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

text: I've heard the tattoos first became widespread in the porn industry back in the day, as a way for actors and actresses to stop editors from copy-pasting parts of different movies they starred in into other movies as filler or money shots (without crediting/paying them for their appearance in the cuts). Since they had tattoos in the lower regions, they would show on the film and you'd notice it wasn't the same girl in the whole scene. This could be the source of the slang. 81.227.51.82 (talk) 06:29, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Tramp Stamp? 

message: Didn't this type of tattooing begin as a way for pornographic actresses to identify and copyright their work even when their faces are not visible? Maybe that's an urban legend?
--98.199.37.31 (talk) 19:45, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you source it?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.149.159.247 (talk) 20:29, 16 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes no sense, because the actresses don't own the film rights, the producers do.  So why get a tattoo to "identify and copyright" something that one has no legal right to? Herzlicheboy (talk) 18:57, 10 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Pornography

message: I'm trying to start a Wikiproject on Body Modification, if anyone wants to join go here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Council/Proposals/Body_Modification  ScarTissueBloodBlister (talk) 02:11, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikiproject Body Modification

message: '..during intimate moments.."?  That's a stupid euphemism for sexual intercourse.  I hate it as a euphemism because it implies a sense that intimacy only means sex - but what about emotional intimacy apart from or devoid of sex?  I also hate that as an aside in this article because it has no relevance whatever to the article.  And this is how this tattoo relates to sex, and this is how this tattoo relates to the price of tea in China, and this is how the tattoo relates to UFOs, and this is how the tattoo relates to my grandma and/or all of these things.. DELETING. --69.169.131.217 (talk) 12:21, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: "Location" section of article

message: The citation for ""slag tags", "pull out targets", and other slang terms.[4]" is incorrect. It cites a page that talks about slang terms, but does not mention the quoted terms, or any other terms related to lower back tattoos (or tattoos in general). So unless someone has citations for this these terms should be removed. "pull out targets" especially seems obscure.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.55.74.34 (talk) 17:43, 11 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  I took care of it. Doggy style targeting has my money for where the term came from.Luke 19 Verse 27 (talk) 00:15, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Citation 

message: 'a target for ejaculate during doggy style intercourse'.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.185.210.63 (talk) 15:32, 10 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Really prostitutes in medieval Italy used such a tattoo as a sign that they offered anal sex . --Yecril (talk) 19:36, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  really 

message: "In Australian slang, the term arse antlers may be used." As an Australian, I've never heard this before. Placing here until someone cites a source. --Super Jamie (talk) 01:17, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No idea about Australian slang, but the common German term, Arschgeweih, is a literal equivalent. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 19:28, 14 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australian slang? 

message: The article says, "Although some male celebrities have lower-back tattoos, they are generally not worn by men." That may be true of straight men, but gay men, especially bottoms, are unfortunately all too likely to have tramp stamps. Pais (talk) 12:50, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting, thanks for filling me in. I wrote that section, but, to be honest, I didn't realize that. Do you know of any sources that discuss this? Mark Arsten (talk) 13:25, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No reliable ones off-hand. There's this forum, but of course we can't use that as a source. Otherwise just (increasingly despairing) personal observation, I'm afraid... Pais (talk) 14:23, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: lol, too bad. I'll keep looking for a source. Mark Arsten (talk) 14:28, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tramp stamps on men 

message: has anyone done a study asking women with tattoos, and lower-back tattoos in particular, how many sex partners they've had, vs. women of the same age and socioeconomic background and status who are not tattooed, and in particular in that place?
are women with tattoos more likely to smoke and to engage in other risky forms of behavior?
of course the stamp doesn't mean that the girl is a tramp, nor does the stamp make the tramp, but can't it be that just maybe tramps are more likely to get themselves stamped?
and couldn't it also be that men seeing the tramp stamp see it as a target, as advertising of the woman's status as a tramp?
and of course you have to be less shy than many women to show that part of the body.
can we just set said the issue of "fairness" and "stereotyping" some of the time and ask if the just maybe the unfair stereotype is accurate?  not for all women, of course.
02:15, 9 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "unfair" but maybe accurate? 

message: Someones made this claim, using weasel words: "...and are considered erotic by some." I tagged it, there are no reliable sources to base such a claim on, tag stays until someone can cite reliable sources or it maybe removed soon without notice. Honestly, can't even watch an adult video of a woman has such a tatoo, massive turn off, would never date a girl a with such ghastly self inflected dis-figuration. eww. Rowland938 (talk) 11:40, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed lead 

message: Please use this as an invitation as to why you're trying to refactor sourced comments in the article.  Good faith is assumed - in that you're trying to establish some kind of gender balance (even if it may look like WP:SOAPBOX and/or WP:GREATWRONG) but in order to do that you need sources to back up your claims.  At the moment there is no source or reference to suggest that the male lower back is considered an erotic body part.  Chaheel Riens (talk) 14:51, 15 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Women's lower backs" 

message: The reference given for "slag tag" and "target" doesn't mention either (and let's just ignore the thorny problem of opinion columns/blog posts as reputable sources…)  I'm wondering if I should just remove the whole reference and replace it with "citation needed"… --jae (talk) 23:34, 13 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "slag tag" and "target" actually unreferenced 

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