Talk:Disney's Nine Old Men

message: Modified the following:
Thomas and Johnston retired in 1978, and both later enjoyed cameos in the Brad Bird-directed films The Iron Giant (Warner Bros., 1999) and The Incredibles (Pixar, 2004). 
I seriously doubt that they were in any capacity to enjoy something that happened years after their death. 147.70.242.40 (talk) 15:14, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have undone your edit, as Thomas and Johnston were still alive and voiced animations of themselves in The Incredibles.  Frank Thomas died in September of 2004, and Ollie Johnston died yesterday (April 14, 2008).  Ruyn (talk) 20:55, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can a dead person "enjoy" a cameo? 

message: "wonderful scene" and "especially unique" seem rather worshipful, and certainly not in the tone one would expect from an encyclopedia.  Parts of this article almost approach hagiography.
--Piledhigheranddeeper (talk) 19:56, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rather un-encyclopedic

message: "Marc Davis (March 30, 1913 - January 12, 2000) started in 1935 on Snow White, and later he went on to develop/animate... Maleficent and the raven (in Sleeping Beauty).... Davis was responsible for character design for both the Pirates of the Caribbean and Haunted Mansion attractions at Disneyland."-Marc Davis's own page credits him with Aurora and Maleficent but doesn't mention the Raven. It also credits the Pirates of the Caribbean costume design to Davis's wife, not Davis himself.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 116.125.84.175 (talk) 04:46, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradiction

message: They are called the core animators. It is more correct to say that they were amongh the most important animators at Disney at a given period in the studio's history. Hamilton Luske, Norm Ferguson, Fred Moore, Bill Tytla and Art Babbitt were their just as important in their time. But most of the the old men were important in that they built the bridge between the old generation and the new genration who would take over when they retired, by educating them and learn them the basic principles and such. 
From an interview with Frank Thomas:
"The reason we were called "Nine Old Men" was that we had a board of animators who determined all possible job-related issues that affected the entire department. We varied in number, but at one time Walt asked about how many people who sat in the board. We were nine at the time, and he said, "Hi, I have my nine old men, too, just as Roosevelt with his Supreme Court! You are all old and have not had a new idea for ever so long. "We said, 'Walt, we've only just passed thirty." He continued to joke about it, so the name stayed."
"It was only a half dozen animators at the studio - Ollie, Milt, Eric, Marc and me - who really was interested in developing characters that the audience could take home and keep in their hearts. We had learned it from Fred and Ham Luske. Woolie - who had learned from Norm Ferguson - and Ward and the others in their departments never cared about working the way we did. Johnnie Lounsbery was somewhere in between, and Les Clark worked in much the same way as they did in the old days."
When asked about Les Clark or John Lounsbery:
"I'm not talking so often about them actually, because they were the first who died, so we worked a long time without them. We worked very rarely on the same projects. They were in a different department and worked with other sequences than I did."
Also, according to Neal Gabler in his book about Disney, the board of animators (that Frank Thomas says varied in numbers), was established after the war, somewhere between 1945 and 1947, as part of a reorganization at the studio to reduce its costs. (Besides the animators, names like Jack Reeder, Fred Leahy, Harry Tytle, Walt Pfahler, Jack Lavin, Chuck Wolcott and Ub Iwerks were given responsibilities within their own areas). 
Gabler also mentions that around 1960, new changes were done. Seven persons at the animation studio had key positions at that point: Ken Anderson as artistic leader, Woolie Reitherman as main director, Bill Peet as the scriptwriter and Frank Thomas, Ollie Johnston, Milt Kahl and John Lounsbery as the four leading animators. Bill Peet left during the production of The Jungle Book. 
Maybe this could fit into the article in one way or another. 84.210.60.115 (talk) 15:03, 2 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: The core animators

message: The table says that it includes the work they did "from the 1930s (e.g. Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs) to the 1970s (e.g. The Rescuers) or the early 1980s (The Fox and the Hound)." But it only lists works up to 1967, where's the rest of the table?
5.71.158.55 (talk) 11:07, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Works table? 

message: Why are people adding false information from IMDb such as Pinocchio and Robin Hood on Marc Davis' filmography section on his separate article, Dumbo on Eric Larson's filmography section on his separate article, Bambi on John Lounsbery's filmography section on his separate and Bambi on Wolfgang Reitherman's filmography section on his separate article when those are all incorrect? It's really annoying me. ArthurRead1976 (talk) 23:17, 17 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  False information from IMDb added to the separate nine articles of the nine old men