Talk:Neo-Confucianism

message: This is a very good article!!!Neo-Confucianism was NOT the mainstream during the Song Dynasty. It was treated as heresy. It was during the Yuan Dynasty when Neo-Confucianism was taken for the Imperial examination for the first time. That made Neo-Confucianism gain strength. I think it became the mainstream during the Ming Dynasty. --Nanshu 03:17, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: I've modified to reflex this. --Menchi 03:55, 12 Oct 2003 (UTC)

text: If your "Neo-Confucianism" is merely "Dao Xue" (which was used by Zhu Xi and his fellow scholars for referring to themselves), it was treated as heresy and it was not the mainstream during the Song Dynasty. However, sometime we use "Neo-Confucianism" also to include those Zhu Xi's opponents and his predecessors (at least in some Chinese texts). In this usage, I think it was the mainstream during the Song Dynasty. Ye Shi was one of the most prominent opponent of Zhu Xi, and he advocate something like "merchantilism" and "utilitarianism" in Western thought. (Actually, I think Ye's thought is only a form of consequentialism. But in Chinese, "Gong Li Lun" stands for a paraphrase of "utilitarianism", and it can also refer to Ye's philosophy.) There were many conflicting Confucian schools of thought in Song dynasty, but we sometime use "Neo-Confucianism" refer all of them. (P.S. Sorry for my poor English......:( )220.139.235.179 (talk) 19:31, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
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message: To my colleagues on wikipedia I found very few suggestions to give on this article of Neo-Confucianism. In the origins section, while the idealistic origins of Neo-Confucianism are widely proven, there is a lack of geographical background given to pretext the references ideologies. There is a lack of footnotes given in the sections discussing the two different types of schooling. Also, when discussing the general rejection of of a relationship between the reincarnation and karma from the Neo-Confucians it mentions how several Neo-Confucians had different ideas about how to address this relationship, but goes into almost no detail about any of those methods of the Neo-Confucians behind them. Hagriff1 (talk) 07:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
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message: For over a year, this article has included an apparent historical error. The article was edited in 2016 to describe a person named "Xi Ling" instead of "Zhu Xi." If this edit was an intentional hoax, then it might be necessary to peer-review this article to prevent this from happening again.  Jarble (talk) 01:34, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
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message: I propose the Vietnamese name be given as "Tông-Minh Lý Học" which is more fully cognate with the other languages given. Karen-bmi30 (talk) 11:38, 19 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vietnamese name 

message: The text does say that Neo-Confucianism incorporated things from Buddhism and Taoism (although it also says it rejected them and especially their supernatural elements), but it should explain more clearly what it added that original Confucianism didn't have. I understand that actual Neo-Confucians, like many such renovators of traditional doctrines, would rather claim that they just preserve and elucidate the true original teaching of Confucius. But the very acceptance of a concept such as Neo-Confucianism presupposes that it at least specifies important things that weren't specified in original Confucianism. 62.73.69.121 (talk) 09:23, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  More on the difference between Neo-Confucianism and original Confucianism?