Talk:Historical mystery

message: I have a novel published in 1802 by Eleanor Sleath entitled 'Who's the Murderer?' Surely this must be the first whodunnit?
John Pine
johnno@globalnet.co.uk
This article is on historical whodunnits - that is, whodunnits with a historical setting, not whodunnits written in the past. To be a historical whodunnit, a story has to fit some guideline such as being set before the author's birthdate (not everyone agrees on the guideline). Otherwise, every whodunnit ever written would become a historical whodunnit at some point in time, making the distinction between contemporary fiction and historical fiction essentially meaningless. Margaret Donsbach (talk) 18:42, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
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message: You get the impression that Carr just wrote "The bride in Newgate" and then never entered the historical whodunnit again. He wrote a string of novels in the 50-ties and 60-ties. Also it doesn't even mention Peter Lovesey who made himself a name in the 70-ties with novels of a sgt. Cribb, a victorian detective. It is from them Peters and the rest got the torch and carried it on. Also, it does not do not to mention Carrs The murder of Sir Edmund Berry Godfrey which is admittedly based on a real crime but written as if it were a novel. It arrived in 1936.  Kurben 11:57, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
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message: Which of Anna Katherine Green's stories/novels are supposed to be historical? I checked a couple of these, including The Mystery of the Hasty Arrow, and they all appear to be set around the time that Green wrote them in the late 1800s - in other words, contemporary settings, not historical. If she did indeed write a historical whodunnit, it would be helpful to include the title(s). If not, the reference to her should be removed. Margaret Donsbach (talk) 18:49, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I confess I haven't read my way through all of them, but to the best of my knowledge none of her work should be considered as part of this category.  As you say, they're set in the time in which they were written.  It is a difficult problem; John Dickson Carr's first and last books are set in the same time period, but the last few are considered "historical" where the first few are not.  I think it's sensible to look at how the author seems to have meant her work to be viewed, and in this case I think she meant to be writing contemporary novels.  Accounting4Taste:talk 21:54, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And, maddeningly, the citation (which doesn't IMHO qualify as a reliable source) says merely that some of her books are historical but neglects to mention which ones or the reason for that assertion.  Accounting4Taste:talk 22:04, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anna Katherine Green 

message: Why did User: Bshong0520 add this to the end of the article, among the categories?
zh:推理小說#歷史推理
Using google translate after zh: was added History Mystery followed by # Reasoning. 
I do not know what zh: means in Wikipedia editing. Nothing seems to show up on the Edit tab or the article itself from this addition.
Is this a way to link the article to the Chinese Wikipedia? Ever curious, --Prairieplant (talk) 14:23, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
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message: There were some examples of this historical whodunit in the Czech literature. One of the most famous Czech writers Karel Čapek wrote in his “Stories from a Pocket and Stories from Another Pocket” (book of detective stories; translated to English as “Tales from Two Pockets” … highly recommended, it is just a pure delight to read) also a story “Fall of the Smiřický family”, which is similar in its setting to Josephine Tay’s The Daughter of Time: confused historian comes to the police detective asking for help with solving a medieval triple murder.
Another story, which is now pure novel, is one of the candidates of the earliest member of this class. Radovan Šimáček who wrote in 1940 novel “Crime at the Zlenice castle AD 1318” Zločin na Zlenicích hradě L. P. 1318, which is completely set in the Middle Ages and an ad hoc detective (he is accused of murder of his father) solves the mystery of locked room.
Ceplm (talk) 13:16, 19 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Czech ancestors