Talk:John Challis

message: - Under job it says "animator". When has Challis been an animator? Just like to know. (:  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.193.188 (talk) 16:22, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Now removed. Martinevans123 (talk) 15:48, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Animator 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: There was an entry for "John Challis (5)" that I was updating, but it disappeared during editing. Added data, but when I tried to save, it says no longer there. Seems he is now "John Challis (3)". 2001:56A:FA85:3800:C67:4356:694E:D47E (talk) 23:42, 19 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that's the right one. But sound recordings are not a significant element in his career. And it's not WP:RS anyway. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 11:13, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Discogs entry

message: The infobox says he was first married to Jean Robertson in 1966 and then divorced. The Personal Life and Death section says he was first married to Carol Robertson from 1965 to 1966. Does anyone know which is correct? Editrite! (talk) 03:44, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I think " Carol Robertson" is a typo, so have changed it to match infobox. But good sources seem to be in short supply. Martinevans123 (talk) 07:37, 20 September 2021 (UTC)

text: The Daily Express says they married in 1964 and divorced in 1966: . But FreeBMD suggests their marriage was registered in the first quarter of 1966. So the marriage could have been in 1965. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:20, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  First marriage 

message: This source, dated January 2018 says they lived in North Herefordshire, in the countryside near Leintwardine, Shropshire. So presumably no longer at the Abbot's Lodgings at Wigmore Abbey Grange, Adforton, Herefordshire? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:24, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: As Wigmore Abbey Grange in only 2 miles from Leintwardine, I guess we can assume this was the same place. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:59, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Home 

message: The list of TV credits does not include Challis's appearance on "House Detectives" where the team of historians investigated his home which was a group of medieval buildings (presumably Wigmore Abbey Grange but I don't remember) EricPolymath (talk) 20:29, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I realise that the entire "Filmography" is currently unsourced, but do you have a source? Many thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 20:33, 20 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: https://www.digitalspy.com/tv/a6657/house-detectives-go-to-hertfordshire/ EricPolymath (talk) 20:42, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Eric. Unfortunately, although there is an article for the US TV series House Detective we do not seem to have one for the UK's House Detectives. But I don't see why it couldn't be added to the article text. I'm glad to say that, thanks to User:Spy-cicle, the references for the "Filmography" section are now very much improved. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:15, 22 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  House Detectives 

message: In the absence of any reports to the contrary I think most people would assume that Challis died at home, and that this home was Wigmore Abbey Grange, Adforton in Herefordshire. But I'm not sure it should be explicitly stated in the text and/or added to the infobox without a clear source. Martinevans123 (talk) 09:01, 21 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I would probably say no for now and err on the side of caution to avoid possibly WP:OR, etc.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 09:34, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

text: Also to save opening up another section, I might be able to get a chance to improve referencing on the filmography tables, etc so this can hopefully appear at RD. I know BFI has more entries to fill in but if you cannot find RS entries for the works, we could at least for the time being comment them out until one is found (per WP:ONUS WP:V), so this can appear at RD.  Spy-cicle💥  Talk? 09:36, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Some of the obscure TV appearances are hard to source and some of my additions may be borderline WP:RS. Amy improvements would be very welcome. Thanks. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:31, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Place of death 

message: I've brought this section up to date with many additions and sources. I had to jiggle with the text to make it coherent with the existing content and I hope I haven't disturbed it or inadvertently deleted anything. COI: I met Challis after his performance with Ms Windsor at Festival Theatre, Malvern during the 1993 tour of Entertaining Mr. Sloane. A wonderful actor and one of my favourites, he entertained me for over an hour over a beer. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:28, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I thought there was rather too much of Boycie in the TV coverage of his death and barely any mention of everything else he did. Rodericksilly (talk) 09:12, 24 September 2021 (UTC)

text: How fascinating. Thanks for sharing that, User:Kudpung, I can just picture him as Ed. And many thanks for the improvements. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:25, 24 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: His theatre work is so extensive, as the obits keep coming in with more, I can't keep up with it. Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 05:48, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Very important. Most people will probably remember him as the one-dimensional Boycie (especially the Serbs, I suspect). Martinevans123 (talk) 09:19, 25 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for filling all the gaps . It's very time consuming. I hesitated at using those IMDB entries, but no one can say the article is not well sourced! Kudpung กุดผึ้ง (talk) 13:26, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it is time consuming, lol. And one or two are a bit bloggish. I have also not used any IMDB entries, although it seems a little unlikely to me that any of them are actually wrong. Just like discogs.com, even if we know it's 100% correct, we can't use it as it may contain user-generated content Martinevans123 (talk) 13:34, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: p.s. note: 9 hours left before it falls off the bottom of ITN/RD. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:39, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theatre 

message: Useful blog with images: . Martinevans123 (talk) 11:30, 26 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useful blog 

message: The date of death on his coffin is listed as 17th September rather than 19th (when it was announced), as seen here https://twitter.com/BeingBoycie/status/1444716094644752390  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7E:3637:8900:113:8612:631F:7D29 (talk) 13:24, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, you are correct. News was announced on the 19th but he passed on the 17th. Very unlikely there would be an error on his coffin and gravestone. R.I.P. John 🕊️ 2A00:23C4:F8A0:4C01:996F:46D2:34CD:5E91 (talk) 15:36, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of death