Talk:Gray mouse lemur

message: When was the species first discovered (by Western science - I assume the local population have always known about it) and when was it first scientifically described?  Should there be a section on this, or at least a mention?  Very nice article, BTW. 86.134.117.1 (talk) 07:05, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. The species was described by science in 1777 by John Frederick Miller.  This information is present in all or most species articles, but you have to know where to look.  It's found under the "Binomial name" section of the Taxobox on the upper right-hand corner (with the picture and basic classification information).  In smaller font, next to the scientific name, is the name of the person who first described it, as well as the year.  The "Synonyms" section lists other names it has been given, usually at later dates.  Once science confirms that these synonyms are the same species, the first name given is used.  The problem with adding this information to the text of the article is that it would bog down the article in extra detail that is already summarized in the taxobox.  Also, all species pages on Wiki summarize this information here.  However, I hope this answers your question. –Visionholder (talk) 07:41, 8 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: A question

message: I disagree that the genera should be listed. These were each considered different species. And, while it is interesting to note the changes in where these species were placed, there is no certain correlation between this species' placement and the placement of the synonyms when they were described. And my fallback: MSW3 lists them without genera. - UtherSRG (talk) 19:32, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: MSW 3 does not (presumably for space reasons), but most works that list synonyms do give the original combination. Species names without an accompanying genus just don't make particularly much sense. In addition, in this case it is very likely that these names were not each considered different species; rather, 18th- and 19th-century taxonomists renamed and again renamed it, either because they were unaware of the other names or because they felt like it. Ucucha 19:48, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "unaware of the other names " sounds to me like they didn't know someone had already described the species, and so they thought they had a new species. I mean to include this notion in my notion above of "different species". As such, we don't have a way of knowing if the genus the author placed their species in was the same genus that this species was in at the time. Even the intentional renames may have been to move the species out of the genus it was in at the time into a new genus. It still says nothing about the genus this species was in at the time. - UtherSRG (talk) 21:42, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure of the relevance of the points we're arguing now; however, (1) the genus names add information; and (2) synonymies outside MSW 3 usually do list the genus names for synonymies. So do lots of our featured articles. Ucucha 23:28, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synonyms 

message: The species name of the colubrid snake that preys on mouse lemurs was misspelled it is Ithycyphus miniatus . ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 23:21, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the fix. – Maky « talk » 02:23, 14 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Madagascar colubrid=

message: Hi, I'd like to clarify the conservation status.  The article currently states that it was removed from CITES appendix I as of 2009.  However, I still find it listed  on the CITES dbase
http://www.cites.org/eng/resources/species.html 
The database states it was added to appendix 1 in 1975 (consistent with Wikipedia) but there is no evidence that it was ever removed.   The database is hard to search, I searched by order (primates).  It did not come up when I searched by species, although I might have done it wrong. 
See also http://www.iucnredlist.org/details/13323/0 which also states that it is on appendix I.
I did not edit the article itself pending input from others with greater knowledge of conservation issues. 
The question is of significance since M murinus is of potential interest as a model organism for biomedical research: http://www.hhmi.org/bulletin/nov2011/features/emerging_model_organisms.html
:Thank you very much for catching this.  This was one of the first articles I ever wrote, and I'm not sure how I slipped up on this.  All lemurs are protected under CITES, so I'm not sure why I would have written this.  But then again, I was new to the field at the time, and probably didn't know how to read the indices.  I will fix it tonight. – Maky « talk » 23:33, 24 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conservation status of M murinus 

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