Talk:Mi'ar

message: *First: there has never been a requirement that sources should be online (Most of the best quality sources that I use are not). So saying that  the Pappe-book is not online, is no reason to ask for citations.
*Secondly, I have the Pappe-book, that quotation is sourced to the "writer Muhammad Ali Taha", who was an eyewitness to the events (he was 17 at  the time.) The paragraph is also sourced to Naji Makhul: "Acre and its Villages since Ancient Times", p. 28, Huldra (talk) 22:22, 30 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pappe 

message: It seems strange to me that it is mentioned that in 1938 the village was entirely destroyed by the British, but there is no mention of the town being re-populated. When has repopulation started? How many lived there in 1948?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.109.124.101 (talk) 07:39, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The 1945 population is in the infobox. Zerotalk 11:09, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repopulation 

message: Fled during the assault its not  the same as "depopulated by Israeli forces". Also its a big question if PAPPE reliable source at all from what I looked at WP:RS/N the WP:ONUS for him was not met --Shrike (talk) 09:22, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Why doesn't it make any sense?There is a question if Israeli forces were actively depopulated the village or not. --Shrike (talk) 10:07, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: We can't just leave it blank like the Palestinian village depopulated itself. There's a diffrence between depopulated and expelled (Pappe's view) - depopulated can be used in either circumstance (expelled or fled from military assault), unless someone can suggest a better word to use.Seraphim System (talk) 16:37, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Right now it reads like the Israeli expelled the villages which is NPOV violation.We can add the reasons for depopulation is disputed. --Shrike (talk) 10:26, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think "depopulation" is seriously disputed. Pappe argued it was a preplanned expulsion. The lede is not the right place to discuss details of the dispute, but I don't think reliable  sources support the argument that depopulation would be an NPOV violation here. If you want the lede to be rewritten to make it sound like the Palestine's left voluntarily it would be false balance. I don't even think secondary sources support giving Morris equal weight in the article text, much less the ledeSeraphim System (talk) 16:19, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: No one dispute depopulation the only dispute is "by Israli forces".I suggest removing it and saying that reasons for depopulation is disputed.--Shrike (talk) 12:52, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That isn't even what Benny Morris said, if they fled a direct assault, which is what happened in this case, then the current version is fine. There are some cases where people fled in neighboring villages that weren't directly assaulted. You may have an argument there, but not in this case. How are Israeli forces not active participants in indiscriminately killing the people who then fled? Give me a break, you need to have sources that support any argument you are making about balance and weight. Can you tell us what those sources are? Seraphim System (talk) 16:16, 21 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: While there is no disputeon the fact  that the village was located on that territory, there is no evidence to its boundaries and therefore there is no evidence  that Manof, Yaad or Atzmon are located on it's teritorry. 213.57.30.98 (talk) 09:36, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The boundaries are shown on the map. Anyway, there's a reliable source. Zerotalk 12:08, 20 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miar's territory