Talk:B. Roy Frieden

message: 155 Google hits for "B. R. Frieden Tucson."  Looks like original research as well.  Another vanity article I couldn't let pass by. - Lucky 6.9 22:49, 10 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Copied from VfD discussion

message: B. Roy Frieden claims to have developed a "universal method" in physics, based upon Fisher information.  He has written a book about this.  Unfortunately, while Frieden's ideas initially appear interesting, Frieden's work is highly controversial:
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* (the reviewer has some positive comments but concludes that Frieden's work is "misguided")
* eprint (highly favorable)
* unauthorized electronic reprint
*Physics from Fisher Information: A Unification (a review) from Cosma Shalizi (Computer Science, University of Michigan) (highly critical)
*Physics from Fisher Information (a review) from R. F. Streater (Mathematics, Kings College, London) (highly critical)
*Physics from Fisher Information thread from sci.physics.research, May 1999 (mostly critical)
*Fisher Information - Frieden unification Of Physics thread from sci.physics.research, October 1999 (mostly critical)
User:Lucky 6.9 was dead right about WP:VAIN.  Note that Frieden is Prof. Em. of Optical Sciences at the University of Arizona.  The data.optics.arizona.edu anon has used the following IPs to make a number of questionable edits:
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##20 May 2005 confesses to being Roy Frieden in real life
##6 June 2006: adds cites of his papers to Extreme physical information
##23 May 2006 adds uncritical description of his own work in Lagrangian and uncritically cites his own controversial book
## 22 October 2004 attributes the uncertainty principle to the Cramer-Rao inequality, which is potentially misleading
##21 October 2004 adds uncritical mention of his controversial claim that the Maxwell-Boltzmann distribution can be obtained via his "method"
## 21 October 2004 adds uncritical mention of his controversial claim that the Klein-Gordon equation can be "derived" via his "method"
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##9 September 2004 adds uncritical description of his work to Fisher information
## 8 September 2004 adds uncritical description of his highly dubious claim that EPI is a general approach to physics to Physical information
##16 August 2004 confesses IRL identity
##13 August 2004 creates uncritical account of his work in new article, Extreme physical information
##11 August 2004 creates his own wikibiostub
These POV-pushing edits should be modified to more accurately describe the status of Frieden's work.---CH 21:54, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[B. Roy Frieden]]'s anonymous POV-pushing edits

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message: I have moved the "Counter Criticism" section from the main page to below, as its style is not particularly neutral and rather confrontational.  Some of these points may be worthwhile to reintroduce into the article (preferably not by B. Roy Frieden) if they are rewritten and appropriately sourced. See WP:NOR, WP:AUTO, WP:NPOV. —BryanD (talk) 17:30, 1 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Moving "Counter Criticism" content here