Talk:Port Said

message: I'm not sure if this article meets the NPOV standard.  Specifically the second to last paragraph in the history section.  "...with Britain and France, who colluded with Israel to invade Egypt..." "...Port Said, which played a historic role in resisting the tripartite aggression that failed to achieve any of its objectives..." "...It is widely celebrated annually in the valiant city."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.92.162.127 (talk) 18:02, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: old comments on NPOV

message: It is news to me that some people pronounce the first letter as a B, i.e. Bort Said. The opening sentence says this comes from the French, but I've never heard French people pronounce a "p" as a "b". Very strange. It is so strange, in fact, that it needs a link to a site that explains what that is all about. Are there French people who call bread, "bain". "Bassez le bain, s'il vous blait, un betit biece." Really??? 77Mike77 (talk) 05:14, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Arabic language contain no "P" letter unlike English, French & Persian; so Egyptian people especially Egyptians with no knowledge of forigen languages pronounce the letter "P" as "B".--Ashashyou (talk) 11:10, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Then the reference the first syllable has its pronunciation from French is wrong and should be deleted. btw, could it be that the word (transliteration) bur is related to port? -DePiep (talk) 11:48, 25 December 2012 (UTC)

text: Same in Port Fuad. -DePiep (talk) 08:16, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  The word Port in french is pronounced without the letter T as many french words that omitt the pronouncation of last letters. It is to be noticed that the French company (led by french persons) was the authority that has established Port Said & Port Foad (Opposite Port Said) & Port Tawfik (at Suez) they named the ports after Mohammed Ali Royalty persons. The name used in Arabic is derived from the French pronouncation of these 3 cities (omitting the T) & (pronouncing P as B as there is no P in Arabic). Note also that the French language was the Language of the Elite social strata at that time.--Ashashyou (talk) 11:04, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: The discussion above relates to local Egyptians' claimed (but unsourced) mispronunciation of the English name "Port Said" with a B. The actual content in the article involves the local pronunciation of the town's Egyptian Arabic name, which is entirely aside the point of its English pronunciation. I'm not saying it's completely trivial but (a)it should still be sourced and (b)this aside on foreign pronunciations should be in a #Name section or a footnote, not cluttering up the . [Fixed.]
The local mispronunciation of the English name itself probably doesn't belong in the  either, since it's not generally known or used by others and we already have the Arabic name cluttering things up. The generic English speaker (including the generic newsreader) is still going to pronounce "port" the usual way and they're not wrong to do so. 
If the point can be sourced, though, it should definitely be addressed at Wiktionary. — LlywelynII 03:49, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Bronunciation Bart Deux