Talk:St Peters Lutheran College

message: Should "christian" in the introduction to the article be capitalised or not? :O Sp0kk 07:48, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Capitalisation?

message: Hi everyone, due to the school removing the images that were in breach of copyright law, the article has become dreary. It would be greatly appreciated if students or those associated with the college could upload personal photos. In other words, do not copy images from anywhere else to put on the article. If you took it yourself, feel free to upload it and place it into the article.
And more warnings,
Cheers
Campbell 01:13, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As I have noted in the talk area below, I have added photos of Ironbark. I don't have any of the school itself though :( I agree with you; the article is very boring without photos. Perhaps someone could contact the school and ask permission to add photos to Wikipedia for illustrative purposes? Sp0kk 03:22, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I must also concur, I'm gonna try and get some pictures of the buildings one day, possibly tomorrow Shad3z 03:33, 13 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Kept my promise = P Added a few diff photos, and to anyone with a better knowledge of wiki, please feel free to rearrange them :) Shad3z 09:17, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos 

message: I have added pictures from my own collection to the Ironbark section (edit: these are pictures of the burnt Ironbark, and the smoke coming from it), however the formatting is terrible. Someone please fix this up for me, I am not very good at such things. Thankyou :) Sp0kk 13:39, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Draicone :) You da man! Sp0kk 15:08, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ironbark Pictures

message: Ok people, we've had our fun and now is the time that we need to start respecting the article. This site is meant to be used to inform the public about particular things in our world. The first question that comes to mind is: Do we really need this article posted? Personally I think not. Ever since this article was created, it has caused nothing but conflict. This may be because several people have taken to vandalising the site. Although it was funny maybe the first time, but now it is starting to become offensive and needs to stop. There is a line between a few jokes and harrasment and I think some people are coming close to crossing that line.
So I ask all of you, please keep this article clean from now on. It has become out of control when it should not have happened in the first place. Either we leave the article as it is or we get rid of the article entirely.
Benprouty 11:37, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wheres the fun without vandalism ;) It always gets reverted by the ever-vigilant Draicone anyway. *tips hat to Draicone* Sp0kk 13:03, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where's the fun without vandalism? Honestly, if vandalism was stopped, people like Draicone would have the time to do other things, like improving articles. Things which I personally feel are more worth their time and intellect. --nkayesmith 03:33, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I might point out that I'm currently taking care of AID maintenance, disambiguation link repair, AfD checking, RfA vote checking, BDC template creation, wikification, article cleanup and all the rest. Vandal fighting is an occasional thing for me now, but the SPLC article and related articles are on my watchlist so I'll be reverting vandalism on them if I see it, and warning/reporting on sight. Stopping vandalism wouldn't exactly put me out of business, but the point is that the only way to stop vandalism is to restrict editing. And we aren't about to do that any time soon. --Draicone (talk) 03:54, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Its time to stop 

message: I like it,
If only they could spell indooroopilly correctly.
Go the Chorale!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Labby24 (talk • contribs) .
:That's not really apropriate for the talk page. Lightman2 (talk) 22:57, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  SPLC ROX!!!!! 

message: Who created this section??? I could say he/she knew SPLC and Wikipedia pretty well to start off although the spelling was quite shocking in some areas. I corrected the "Indooroopilly" and "separate" section. Just hope the page won't get VANDALISED!! Last time I saw the Heads of College section saying Mr. Rudolph had forty children. Crazy!! 
What if he viewed the page then. Gosh!
:I've added this page to my watchlist. If anyone vandalises it, I'll know and I won't be happy :) Oh, and please remember to sign your comments with four tildes like this: ~~~~. --Draicone (talk) 12:30, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creation 

message: I love it how this page highlights things in a most biased manor whilst putting the english department to shame. Still I fixed a sentance or 2 but I should point out that is no longer the school's logo.
Also, it's also a dead giveaway that the person who wrote this page is in chorale (year 11 judging by a member of my ITS class). I have nothing against chorale but I will find it interested when the school re-write this page wheather or not the information remains. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DavidSFN (talk • contribs) .
:The article is not significantly biased, and any obvious bias can be corrected. In addition, as a student you should be aware that the school logo shown is in fact current spare a minor graphical improvement present in the recently introduced portals. --Draicone (talk) 07:58, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammer 

message: what is 
"... and innocent yet unsupervised inter-gender interaction at night"
about? 
inter-gender interaction between students or staff? (or student AND staff? ><) 
this might need clarification, if not be omitted altogether. i mean seriously, is it worthy of mention in an article about an outdoor education program?
:Look, I added it because it was the most mature way of saying what really happened. Boys rushed off to the girls dorm in the middle of the night, and vice versa. The problem was that there weren't any staff to supervise, hence the 'yet unsupervised', and when they got to each other's dorms they had no idea what to do, hence the 'innocent'. Feel free to remove it, that's what wikipedia is all about. --Draicone (talk) 11:53, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What about the ib fires that I got evacuated from :P I really cbf adding anything at the moment, but I feel they should be included. Just a thought.Sp0kk 12:53, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: K I added a short spiel about the fires. Someone please add more :D Sp0kk 12:55, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ironbark 

message: The neutrality of this section is disputed.
Please see the discussion on the talk page.
why is it disputed? i added a citation needed tag to "The St Peters Chorale is claimed to be one of Australia's best non-professional youth choirs" , but other than that line i see no reason for a POV ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 60.240.145.146 (talk • contribs) 05:39, 10 August 2006.
:Here's why:
::St Peters values the musical talents of its students
:It would be impossible to support that claim, since it is subjective.
::and has extensive facilities in place to cater for the needs of the 2000+ student body
:Again, this is subjective. Cite the number of students, sure, but you'll do better describing the facilities rather than lauding them.
::Graduates of St Peters now fill leading positions in Australian and overseas orchestras
:That statement is too sweeping. Cite examples rather than trying to make it sound impressive. Inline citations would really help as well. -Harmil 06:58, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is disputed because I am disputing it. One citation is never enough, and encyclopaedia articles cannot be biased. For example, even if it is true (which it most likely is), you cannot say, "Linux operating systems are the most powerful desktop OSes in the world," as it seems undoubtedly biased. In the same way does the music section of this article. --Draicone (talk) 21:02, 11 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I have to agree with Draicone on this - the section is full of loaded phrases. At the least they need to be reworded into something like it is reported that xxxxx' with an appropriate reference. My preference is to edit the section with an axe but I'd prefer to see where consensus leads us first. - Peripitus (Talk) 00:57, 12 August 2006 (UTC)

text: I feel that the entire article is written from a biased point of view, like saying that the school (though probably true) has '...fully-featured boarding houses...', and '...a dramatic addition of facilities...'. Are such adjectives needed like dramatic and fully-featured? The boarding houses would most likely not be in use were they not fully-featured. Sp0kk 03:36, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, and further the article is starting to accumulate trivia that is not of interest to the broader community. The impact of a fire on scheduled hiking, for example. We really need to focus this article on the encyclopedic elements and strip some of the fluff. -Harmil 13:51, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  music program - POV dispute 

message: The images breaking copyright laws on this page have been deleted please do not restore them, thankyou.
"Unauthorised production in whole or in part of the information on this website including without limitation, photographs, is an infringement of copyright. Except as permitted under the Copyright Act 1968 (Cth), no part of this website may be reproduced by any process, electronic or otherwise, without the specific written permission of the Copyright Owner. Neither may all or part of the information contained within this website, including without limitation, photographs, be stored electronically in any form whatsoever without written permission of the copyright owner." copyright act followed by the website which the photos were taken off.
:A sysop has, on my request, tagged these images as copyright violations. If you would like them to be deleted quicker, please contact the wikimedia foundation. --Draicone (talk) 20:59, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In the zeal for removing images, the logo (shield) was removed from the main infobox. This image is correctly tagged and sourced as a logo. Logos are legitimate fair use for Wikipedia, and are used extensively. Further, please cite Wikipedia policy when removing images, not laws. Unless you are a lawer with specific knowledge of the impact of Florida state law (where Wikipedia is hosted), U.S. copyright law, and international copyright law, trying to assert the legality or illegality of any usage is probably a minefield you don't want to step in. Instead, we have distilled the impact of these laws into site policy which can be viewed at WP:COPY. Thank you, and happy editing! -Harmil 16:05, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright laws 

message: I don't have the time to do this properly, nor proper knowledge about many of the cocurricular stuff offered.  People who actually do it, add your stuff in.
ANG7 07:05, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Co Corricular stuff

message: Fist of all I would like to say that who ever wrote don't vadalise this page or else the Colloge may persue defensive action or some shit, you are an idiot. The college didnt want the page made in the first place. Also, believe it or not, the college cannot make any real action against someone for changing it. Fist of all as you can post without leaving a name it seems like they would have a lot of trouble finding who it was. If they traced the IP somehow, which i dont believe is legal, they couldnt get the person in trouble anyway because like i said, it wasnt legal. It's a real problem for good old Steve and the rest of the people at the college, people keep expressing themselves and thier opinions. If Steve doesn't police it people may get the crazy idea that they can express themselves freely, and if that idea becomes popular maybe they can make it legal and give it a catchy name, such as "Freedom of Speech". What a crazy world we live in.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 149.167.138.40 (talk • contribs) . 
An interesting sentement.  In terms of keeping the site clean, the wonderful and ever vigilant Draicone is quite capable of that *three cheers for Draicone*.  In terms of legality, the impression I get is that if we use copyright imagers from the SPLC site, they can pursue us legally.  Vandalism ... quite possibly.  And Freedom of Speech.  Well, if you take freedom seriously, and democracy for that matter, freedom and equality are mutually exclusive (sorry, random philosophical aside) but seriously, do you belive Freedom of Speech truly exists?  Think through that for a moment.  Think how people would be treated if they started preaching terrorism and blow up america in the middle of an Australian place ... I don't think the government would really worry about freedom of speech ...  and if you believe your speech is free, you really should sign your comment.
ANG7 05:01, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, according to the Telecommunications Act, tracing an IP address is one of the most legal things in the world. The school can take legal action for certain things, blatant vandalism like blanking it cannot, but inaccurate and derogatory information like 'Chairman Rudolph' possibly. The only thing standing in the way of the school taking legal action is the fact that servers are hosted in Miami and therefore they must take action according to local law there. And please remember to sign your comments with four tildes, ~~~~, so that people know who wrote the comment (this is auto-magically converted to your username/IP and the current date/time). --Draicone (talk) 05:41, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legal issues 

message: ppl!!! god, stop dissing chorale, the music program is the only thing the school REALLY has to offer. i mean, do u see the rowing team traveling overseas to perform in europe, america etc as the orchestra and chorale etc do? ppl in CANADA know about us. do ppl in canada know about the cross country team? no (ps no offense to the cross country/ rowing ppl). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Labby24 (talk • contribs) .
But on a lighter note, who cares about say corale. No one, thats who. Maybe P.A, but everyone knows hes a goose. Chorale is about as useful as tits on a bull, and those who have been to Ironbark know how useful that is. The thing the school has to offer is propoganda at a high price. Jesus isnt real. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 149.167.138.40 (talk • contribs) .
Jesus isn't real?  I'm horrified by whoever wrote this article.  Either you're a fool who hasn't learnt the term Historical accuracy (besides the bible, Jospehus, a famous jewish historian details records of Jesus, and many other people.  There are more books ... nay, simply more "proof" of Jesus existence than there is of your own (unless I misinterpret your identity as a student and you're actually Bush or Howard ... but even then, there's probably more records of Jesus) ... either that, or you've read the chapel I'm planning to deliver fourth term ... but that never said Jesus wasn't real, just that ... wait, don't want to ruin it.  Still, I'm horrified.  And why is Chorale not useful?  You can't make POV statements like that with out back up.  I want a fifteen page (or longer) essay.  Otherwise, a lot of things come to mind that its very useful for ... I can list some if you really want.  Or read this site, it has a few - http://education.qld.gov.au/publication/reporting/parents/2005/issue1_music.html
Please think through your comments before you place them.  I like to prove people wrong, and will be quite happy to continue doing so if you make such rash claims as Jesus isn't real.
ANG7 04:53, 19 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Off-topic arguing

message: ppl is not a word. Is it that hard to write people. look! I just did it. People. There we go again.
I am better then you 07:08, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can everyone promise not to say ppl. Please. 

message: Is it REALLY necessary to detail to curriculum in the article? I don't think it's relevant, and is only serving to
a) look like a direct copy/paste from the school website
b) create disinterest in the article
c) look like the article is promoting St Peter's, rather than providing unbiased information about it.
Likeomg
Possibly not neccesary, though the organisation is (people would want to know how the grades split up).  The thing I ask is, should the International Bacclaureate be mentioned?  By someone who can spell it correctly ...
ANG7 08:43, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it STRICTLY necessary? 

message: The correct name of the College is St Peters Lutheran College, there should be no dot after St and no possessive apostrophe in Peters. As a new user I have no idea how to fix this, can someone help Angiebaa 04:25, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The name of the College 

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thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: In 2019, all non-choir ensembles were restructured, reorganised and renamed. This needs to be reflected in the article. ItsPugle (talk) 12:21, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Music Groups