Talk:Kristen Pfaff

message: The entry claims Kristen was born with the surname 'Pfaff' but that her mother later divorced her (un-named) father and married a man named 'Pfaff' who gave her his surname (???!!!). There are clearly some factual problems here!
Parco BeansMad302 (talk) 16:06, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Birth Name

message: Deleted the "Conspiracy Theory" section on this page. It was 1. Extremely Biased, 2. Extremely stupid 3. Not sourced, and 4. Ignorant. I hope it does not appear again.
I've edited it back in. The conspiracy theories themselves may be stupid, but they're out there, and thus warrant inclusion just as much as the conspiracy theories on Cobain's death warrant inclusion on his page, or the conspiracy theories surrounding JFK's assassination on JFK's page, or anything else. As there's no actual assertions in there other than noting what OTHERS allege (and it makes it clear that is the case) I don't see how it's potentially libellous. Tbh I think you're bringing rather a little too much POV - that you like Courtney due to being a Hole fan and find it distasteful that some people think such things. That's not exactly NPOV editing, is it now. Charlycrash (talk) 18:54, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Conspiracy Theory

message: I've added some stuff to the Musical Career section, given a bit of info about Janitor Joe's releases, the Minneapolis scene, and Kristen's role in JJ's sound. I'll set up a rudimentary JJ page so the tree is better... I have a couple of questions, though, about the spring 1994 tour K played with JJ: Did she replace Wayne Davis (her replacement in JJ) or join as a second live bassist? Did she have any input into Lucky, the 1994 album? Anyone?
Kristen's work on LTT deserves discussion, too, since Love/Erlandson/Pfaff/Schemel is so often regarded as the classic lineup of Hole. I'll check the Hole discography for writing credits and add some reviews that focus on Kristen. Everett True's book, Live through this - American Rock in the 90's, talks about her playing style and a couple of reviews really champion her. 
I've also added a bit of context to her decision to move to Seattle. Seattle Weekly.com is down, so I can't cite right now, but the quote from her father  is reproduced and cited in Courtney Love: Queen of Noise, by Melissa Rossi.
White hotel 10:00, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New content 

message: 'Drugs and death' is a dreadful header title. Is this page chronological or thematic? Maybe we should have a 'musical career' section and a 'biographical info' section. Very little substantiable info is available about Kristen until very late in her life. I think we have to be careful not to let a biographical approach overshadow her career. 
White hotel 12:42, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headers 

message: This is a terrible article that addresses little about the subject and instead focuses on spreading hysterical Courtney Love conspiracies. This is one of the pitfalls of having random people create encyclopedia passages. This page needs to be changed.
The quotes here are from the book "Who Killed Kurt Cobain?" published in 1998 so I don't see how re-using quotes could be considered libelous, and as for the rest of the article, I didn't read anything that wasn't the truth.
Just because it comes from a book doesn't make it accurate. And Wiki, why don't you edit then since no one else will.
I agree I couldn't help but think this was so obviously manipulative reading this article. I would never have known this information came from a book without reading the discussion page and I'm quite sure numerous people won't read this page. --68.50.23.9 11:47, 6 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If you click the little numbers in square brackets throughout the text it'll take you to the link to the source. Those little numbers means things are from other sources. Charlycrash (talk) 19:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

text: The conspiracy theories surrounding Cobain's death are, frankly, also pretty ridiculous, yet they're still on his page. Honestly, most conspiracy theories are pretty ridiculous, but I don't see why noting the existence of such theories and describing them to some degree is anything other than desirable provided that the article makes it clear that it's listing ALLEGATIONS MADE BY OTHERS and not listing facts. It's impossible to talk about JFK without talking about grassy knolls and second gunmen - how are the Pfaff conspiracies any different? Certainly not weight of evidence, as the JFK conspiracies also dissolve easily with a few well-chosen hard facts. Charlycrash (talk) 19:05, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Excuse me, who took what vote and decided to keep what page? I veto the conspiracy theory section. It's based on one person's input, whose input is extremely biased -- it should go on THAT person's page, not Kristen's. Mistertruffles (talk) 07:29, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kristen Conspiracy Theory 

message: I am not sure whether the recent edit by 'Jnggobills' is valid. it's something about 'losing her "flag"'
Can someone please verify ?
SiegerKranzMeer 05:27, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism ?

message: I read somewhere that Kristen identified as bisexual. Was that the case? Is there a reliable source for it? JenAW (talk) 17:41, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Identify

message: Does anybody have a reference for Pfaff deciding to leaving Hole after Cobain's death?  It's possibly in the film "Hit So Hard". Jonpatterns (talk) 13:21, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Reference for leaving Hole

message: Posthumous achievement section and other bits removed by User:Ceoil, not sure why.  Version before trim: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kristen_Pfaff&oldid=586441780 Jonpatterns (talk) 15:45, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added in the Posthumous information under Posthumous Acknowledgements, which sounds better to me.  I've put the paragraphs in chronological order and moved the Club 27 to an 'Also see' section - which seems more appropriate. Jonpatterns (talk) 12:49, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Trimmed Posthumous achievements/Acknowledgements etc

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message: "snoring in bathtub" gurgling or snoring sounds can be heard during a person who is dying could this be the case? Even if it may be a murder maybe it was a struggle? Ive searched on YouTube by a mortician that people do this also when they have died. BeansMad302 (talk) 16:18, 5 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Kristen snoring in bathtub" or was it something more worse?