Talk:Executive producer

message: "Executive producer is a role in the entertainment industry that is rather ambiguous and often difficult to define clearly."  lol, that's an understatement! — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.98.65.46 (talk) 21:37, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Definition or lack thereof

message: For an unreferenced/uncited article it's so far pretty good. However, surely we can get some rulings from the various guilds on when/how you're allowed ot be credited as executive producer? Rfwoolf 04:38, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good article 

message: Here's a good source of what an EP is.  143.167.200.248 02:05, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article source 

message: Should there be a small list of notable EPs? Such as Jerry Bruckheimer or something? Might be worthwhile.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.168.23.24 (talk) 17:17, 19 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Examples 

message: Executive in Charge of Production (EIC) links to Executive Producer (EP).  Shouldn't some distinction be made?  A TV program (in the US) might have 5 or 6 EPs, but there's only ever one EIC, and he's always listed at the end, connoting greater importance.  If one is in the "business" I'm sure you know what this person does, but as a layperson finding exactly what the definition is, on the web, is a little difficult.  (imdb seems to get it wrong also, by just lumping EIC in with EP.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Petzl (talk • contribs) 10:38, 31 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Petzl is correct. Although I'm not in the TV or film industry, I've done a lot of research. Executive in Charge of Production (EIC) is not a synonym for executive producer, and therefore, should not be redirected here. The first source is an Amazon podcast interview with the executive in charge of production of all of Netflix's TV shows and films (see here: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/30555598-ea45-4aed-adbb-b64437585279/episodes/e9957621-1a86-4d7a-b6c5-c24af3bc7ed7/the-practical-filmmaker-48-how-to-become-a-studio-executive-at-netflix-noelle-green?refMarker=null). It's similar to the line producer in that they are in charge of deciding the budget and scheduling and help manage the production (office) management personnel, but they're also studio executives who work at the production company. Although I think an EIC deserves its own page on Wikipedia, for now, I think it should redirect to the studio executive page (or possibly the line producer or production management disambiguation page). Also see here for job descriptions of the EIC: https://www.media-match.com/usa/current/eic-executive-in-charge-of-production-job-25189815?job_uid=25189815, https://www.emmabowenfoundation.com/fuse/executive_in_charge_head_of_production, and: https://ellenrakietenentertainment.com/executive-in-charge-of-productoin/ ATC . Talk 17:40, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Redirected the executive in charge of production (EIC) to the Production management disambiguation article and rewrote the description for Unit production manager listed link to the associated article as "Unit production manager, responsible for performing various job duties under the direction of the line producer and executive in charge of production in a film or television show production office". ATC . Talk 18:08, 30 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  How does an Executive in Charge of Production differ from an Executive Producer? 

message: "EP functions in music video production do have some unique characteristics that can vary greatly from even the broad definitions put forward in some categories. Of course, the principle purpose, I agree, is financial security but as intimated by dlampton and others, the primary observable division within the EP function tends to fall along lines of 'hands-off' and 'hands-on'. I would add as a motivation to this, financial gain alone rather than financially backing a project is increasingly a factor that places additional pressures on artists with strong creative vision. Within the financial industry that surrounds most long-form visual media content, there are many roles that can come within the EP definition depending on factors as diverse as the personalities of others working in non-executive roles on the project to unexpected largely uncontrollable changes to creative team members - this has, in the main, already been articulated in the article. In short-form music video production, unless there is a tome - and this is relevant to the work of artists such as Beyonce or others who might block shoot an album release or in the rapidly increasing signing of musical talent to large cross-media conglomerates such as Columbia's signing Lil Nas X for Montero, a deal that explicitly includes creative control and music video production for all tracks released - EP roles are by definition shorter and more clearly defined than other visual media production. However, the greater the involvement of larger corporate interests in the form, the greater the capacity for some creative functions to be consumed by a zealous production executive charged with delivering a particular project who perhaps feels a particular demographic ought be targeted by a particular song or album, and therefore of greater interest to the corporation, despite the artist holding no ambition to reach said demographic. This is the classic predatory model of financial return being the primary consideration for the producer of visual content accompanying a musical production rather than the artists creative vision for the music itself, if indeed they possess such a vision. Importantly, some musicians lack of interest in visual content can result in relegating the role of producer to one of 'please just make sure this happens'. At the other end of the scale of large corporate interests, it may be the values of the corporation that dominate the production process, think Disney compared to Columbia, and this further risks the vision of the musician being lost in a desire to target content at as wide a demographic as possible. Contrast all of these examples with the works of an artist such as Laurie Anderson in this form, and this again throws up a new set of issues from the inclusion of institutional modern art institutions, academic institutions and arts-based festival circuits in the commission and production of content. As such the standing of the artist in the specific art form within music video production they inhabit - such as contemporary institutional art in the case of Anderson - is key to the success and broader distribution of these works. I can't think of another visual production media that is influenced by this breadth of factors and this short addition to the discourse is non-exhaustive, albeit other forms will be subject to some of the same factors in different ways. I will happily make additions focused on all forms but specifically music video production to the page in coming weeks using examples that can be referenced/cited. I am also an avid Creative Commons geek so am happy to look for images as per page request. --Jonafellow (talk) 15:22, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  No entry for Music Video in media categories