Talk:Pavel Pereleshin

message: I was researching background for Fort Stikine earlier tonight and came across this:
tikine River. Rises in northern British Columbia and flows into the Pacific, 
through Alaskan territory, after a course of 335 miles. The name is a corrup- 
tion of the Thlinkit word sta-hane, meaning " the river." The mouth of the 
river was visited by Captain Cleveland in 1799. The Russians built Fort 
Dionysius there, in 1834, on the site of the present town of Wrangell. Three 
years later, the post was acquired by the Hudson's Bay Company, and renamed 
Fort Stikine. The upper waters of the river were visited by J. McLeod, of the 
Hudson's Bay Company, in 1834. The river was explored in 1863 by Lieutenant 
Pereleshin, of the Russian navy; and in 1866-1867 by the surveyors of the 
Western Union Telegraph Company. Index : D Attempt to establish Hudson's 
Bay Company fort there in 1834 frustrated by Russians, 119-120 ; Russians 
hand over their fort at mouth of river to Hudson's Bay Company, 121. Bib. r. 
Blake, Geographical Notes upon Russian America and the Stickeen River; 
Dawson, Report on Yukon District (GeoL Survey Report, 1887-1888).
Which is from "Index And Dictionary Of Canadian History", Edited by Lawrence J. Burpee, F.R.G.S. Librarian of the Carnegie Library, Ottawa, and Arthur C. Doughty, C.M.G., Litt.D., Dominion Archivist, Ottawa, publ. Morang & Co., Toronto 1911
Now, given that Pavel Pereleshin was appointed rear-admiral in 1863, this couldn't have been him; but was it, as i think is probably likely, one of his sons?  The source is only an index of a twenty-volume set, which would be in teh Nat'l Library or Nat'l Archives in Ottawa, so I can't provide a first name; if anyone can please start a bio; I hadnt' heard of this expedition before, and it's abit surprising in that the Stikine, or nearly all of it, was formally British territory by this time (see Stikine Territory).  If ever much is found out, he should probably be mentioned on Russian America and also listed in :Category:Explorers of Alaska (which seems to need creating...) and :Category:Explorers of British Columbia....Skookum1 (talk) 02:27, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: AHA!! - should have just looked in BCGNIS to start with - see here re Lieut. Pereleshin...still no first name, though, just "Lieutenant Perelshin".Skookum1 (talk) 02:33, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think one of the refs mentions he was a navy lieutenant, not army, and AFAIK all military personnel in Russian America were naval, not army, but I don't have any backup from that; I've just only ever heard of naval officers in relation to the history of Russian America....could be wrong about that....I'll post something on the Wrangell, Alaska page, which is the nearest town to where this expedition took place, and/or look for a museum link there; but there was no Russian fort there at the time I guess, he would have been based at Sitka, or on a ship at Sitka at the time (1860s); the expedition was to confirm that gold prospectors on the Stikine River were not active in Russian territory....Skookum1 (talk) 00:41, 6 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Excellent, thank you, though we still don't have his personal name or patronymic so can't quite start a stub though it's enough for me to write up Mount Pereleshin when I get a chance now.  Lots of nice detail.  Maybe somewhere online there's a roster of Russian imperial-era naval officers?  Or a genealogical site that might give more detail about the Pereleshin family?  Again, thanks, nice find...Skookum1 (talk) 11:34, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have created Mount Pereleshin finally, using what I had, but will try to mix in information as provided in the Russian-language citation you've provided; for convenience of further discussion and note-taking I am copying the above discussion directly onto Talk:Mount Pereleshin.Skookum1 (talk) 22:39, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Lieutenant Pereleshin, 1863