Talk:Fraternal Order of Eagles

message: How could someone drown in a septic tank? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.152.14.244 (talk • contribs) 
:It's not the only time I've heard of this happening. Usually, it involves the top of the tank rusting away and the ground collapsing. In any event, though, the only apparent reference for this incident (not provided inline) in the article is a website for a lawyer, not exactly a great citation. In general, this article could use a lot of citation. And expansion. - Jmabel | Talk 04:04, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Drowned in a septic tank

message: Kind of new here.. This article seems to omit anything about when the FOE was an all white organization. It was brought up in the past but it was removed because it wasn't cited. I found another article on wikipedia that talked about it: James Groppi
I also found a citation that I think would work (from the other wikipedia article): http://content.wisconsinhistory.org/u?/wmh,49345
What do other people think about this? Gamerman2360 (talk) 11:48, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree fully, and we're not talking about 100 years anyway. As late as 1990 the court decision finding them guilty of violations of the Civil Rights Act of 1964. Watson v. Fraternal Order of Eagles Grand Aerie, et al.. Evan Carroll (talk) 19:58, 28 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Glad to see this discussion going on.  The information seems important and relevant to include in the article, but i agree some information about the current status of the organization would best be added at the same time.  Note, for Freemasonry, a comparable fraternal organization which consists of "Lodge" and "Grand Lodge" groups that mutually recognized one another or choose not to, it is known and documentable that many of the all-white ones still do not acknowledge black ones (there is a reliable website which tracks their mutual recognitions), and there is a slow-dragging, embarrassing controversy documented in the national news in which (approximately) the all-white West Virginia Grand Lodge expelled a mildly reforming leader and is now punishing the Ohio Grand Lodge for accepting that person as a member.  Racism is alive and well within fraternal organizations in America.  I do believe it is relevant to provide statements about past exclusivity but again it is good to document current status as well.  Hopefully more digging, lit searching might come up with more.  How about performing some original research to be reported here (not saying should go into article), such as phoning the national organization and asking if they have any integrated local chapters?  That background research could inform the appropriate thing to do in the mainspace article (like if someone official effectively says they're happily racist on the phone, not that i expect they would, then I wouldn't put that in mainspace but I would feel better about providing objective documentation about the organization being racist at some date in the past).  Or if they can point to specific initiatives or integrated local chapters then I would direct some effort to finding reliable sources for that, to provide some balance in a mainspace treatment. --doncram 14:28, 18 March 2011 (UTC)
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message: I am preparing an article on James Bruce Kremer, a notable Montana politician of the early to mid 20th century. He was Montana Eagles president in 1904. What else he may have done relating to the Eagles I don't know. He served on the Democratic National Committee from 1908 til 1934, being vice chairman of it starting in 1919. He was a close associate of fellow Eagle Franklin Roosevelt, functioning as one of nine members of FDR's 'council of war' in 1932, as well as making a significant contribution to his nomination at the convention. He was also the intimate confidant of FDR's Attorney General, Homer S. Cummings during the 1930's. Kremer never served in any publicly elected office although he came within an ace of being appointed to Montana Senator Thomas J. Walsh's seat, vacated when Walsh died just before FDR's inauguration in 1933. For the story see Burton K. Wheelers autobiography 'Yankee From The West', page 300-301.Jwilsonjwilson (talk) 21:31, 10 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Include James Bruce Kremer in notable politicians section?