Template talk:Croatian elections

message: There were also elections for the Croatian-Slavonian-Dalmatian parliament (Sabor) in 1848 and in 1861, but I don't know how to add this into the template.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.108.118.143 (talk) 14:15, 14 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Elections in 1848 and 1861

message: I'd like to add the pre-Communist elections in the table, but am a little confused as to exactly just how to do it. Any help? --PaxEquilibrium 18:58, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What were they elections for? Number 57 19:08, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

text: So, put them in :) If there were ever any Senate elections, perhaps we can use the "Upper House" solution from the Yugoslavian elections template? Number 57 07:56, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah.. it's a bit hard to explain. From 1939 to 1941 a "Croatian Banate" has existed within the Kingdom of Yugoslavia and I would've made no quarrels regarding adding elections to the Croatian Parliament (that was supposed to be elected in '41, but the Axis invaded, hence it used only nominated deputies from '39). However before, the "Croatian Parliament" was a governing body of an entity within the Austria-Hungarian Monarchy (its Magyar part) known as the Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia created according to the Hungaro-Croatian Compromise of 1868; after the Great War it joined Serbia into a South Slavic state and was abolished in 1922. And as you see, that' not quite "Croatia", and especially notice the border differences. And Dalmatia, was a separate Austrian crownland that had its own "Dalmatian Parliament" from 1861 to 1922... are you following me? --PaxEquilibrium 20:58, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmmm. I would still attempt to include them under parliamentary elections, as even if the borders moved, it is still Croatia (we count German elections before WWI and Polish elections before WWII, even though their borders were markedly different from today). I would not include the Dalmatian ones  - that sounds like a special case. I think we should get comment from our resident Austrian though! Number 57 08:21, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Mh, it's difficult. I'd either be in favour of having an own template for Croatia-Slavonia and Dalmatia, or for including them in here but in their own rows, as they *are* different entities... —Nightstallion 10:37, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Elections before SFR Yugoslavia

message: This brings me to another problem (Number 57'll know what I'm talking about). Those pre-1990 parliaments are actually elected in the same way the "Chamber of Counties" was... --PaxEquilibrium 23:39, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ? From reading Croatian Chamber of Counties election, 1993, it seems that it was a popular vote, but done on a multi-member constituency basis? Or is my interpretation wrong, and they were actually elected by local councillors? Number 57 23:47, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Local elections were organized in each county. Every county gave a specific amount of deputies. When all elections are over and deputies nominated, the Parliament is constructed. That's how's the Vojvodinian parliamentary election today. That's how most elections were back then. There weren't nation-wide like today. And if you ask me, they should've stayed that way. --PaxEquilibrium 00:01, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Having read the Vojvodina election articles, it sounds similar to constituency voting for the National Assembly of France, in which case they should be included, no doubt. Number 57 00:11, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup. But you misunderstood - should I move them all to the "Chamber of Counties" bit? --PaxEquilibrium 00:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, make it "upper house" as in the other case, I s'pose. —Nightstallion 01:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I would keep them in the parliamentary elections section. If they were the only body at the time, they couldn't really be described as the Upper House - how they are elected is irrelevant to their status as upper/lower, as electoral systems change over time. Number 57 10:23, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, sorry, I misunderstood that. Yes, electoral systems are not of importance, they should remain in the first row. —Nightstallion 13:56, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Parliament" controversy 

message: Should I add elections for Deputies in the Imperial Parliament that were in Croatia-Slavonia and(if) Dalmatia? --PaxEquilibrium 23:52, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose so. —Nightstallion 01:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you mean representatives to the Austro-Hungarian/Yugoslavian parliaments, or to the local assembly? I would only include the latter (like on Template:Czech elections where only elections to the Czech local assembly during the Czechoslovakian era are included). Number 57 10:25, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The first of course - the latter is that which already is in the article. --PaxEquilibrium 19:39, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then no, I wouldn't include them - they should be part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire elections articles, if such things exist. I assume neither Austria or Hungary are successor states to the Empire, and therefore it should be treated like Czechoslovakia? Number 57 20:14, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, precisely. —Nightstallion 10:58, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Imperial and Yugoslav elections 

message: There seems to have been some sort of an election in 1885, but I can't confirm anything. --PaxEquilibrium 23:55, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What does the "(Military Frontier)" link signify? —Nightstallion 01:35, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In late 1881 the Military Frontier was abolished and a huge chunk of its territory annexed to the Kingdom of Croatia-Slavonia. In 1883 the Croatian Parliament was enlarged and elections were held in areas of the former Croatian and Slavonian Frontiers' municipalities to fill in the empty seats. It was a result of the crownland's expansion. --PaxEquilibrium 01:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then it should be "Military Frontier parliamentary election"... —Nightstallion 13:58, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why? --PaxEquilibrium 19:44, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because it's more sensible, and we never have "()" in election article titles -- we have "region type election, year". —Nightstallion 20:09, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well don't you think that makes the picture like the Military Frontier had a parliament? --PaxEquilibrium 14:24, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then we should call it "Croatian parliamentary by-election" instead. —Nightstallion 16:34, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is new to me. Is that some sort of standard practice? --PaxEquilibrium 21:20, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, no, but this wasn't a standard case, either, was it? Simply having "Croatian parliamentary election" would indicate it was a *full* election, and having (Military Frontier) in parentheses afterwards is rather ugly and something we haven't done before at all... —Nightstallion 10:50, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unknown elections