Talk:Kota Vamsa

message: Kota kings belong to Kamma caste. Pracash11 (talk) 18:45, 10 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Kota kings are Kammas

message: Kota Kings belonged to Kshatriya Caste and were of Dhananjaya Gotra. 
Please refer to the pages 159-161 in the book refered by you (http://books.google.co.in/books?id=-d9IAvFOUHsC&pg=PA171&dq=dhanyakataka&lr=#PPA159,M1). It clearly says that Kota Ketaraja II was the ancestor of the three Kshatriya families of Datla, Jampana and Dantuluri. Like all historical books Sharada Devi also said Kota Kings were of Dhananjaya gotra and were ancestors of Dhananjaya gotra Kshatriya Rajus.
See below inscriptions 
1. On a pillar in the Amareswara temple, guntur. Records in S. 1079, I&vara, gift of sheep for a lamp by Kavaliya-Singana-Peggada, the minister of the Mahamandale&vara Potaraja, the son of Chagi-Dora of the Durjaya family. 
2. On a pillar lying in the prakara of the same temple. Records in S. 1082 gift of two
lamps by Kallaya-Nayaka, the younger brother of Pota, the son of Chagi-Dora of the Durjaya family, and by his wife, who was the daughter of Muchchay.a-Nayaka of Rachchuru, of the same family
where in chaagi claims durjaya vamsam (sudra community) kshatriyas claim the same lineage. do you support their claims??>><<
So as kaakatiyans who were durjaya vamsa sudras still kshatriyas claim kakatiya lineage.
see below inscriptions:
1.On the south wall of the shrine of the G oddess in the temple 
of Mallikarjuna, Mandapadu, Guntur Taluk, Guntur District. Date missing. 
The  beginning is lost.  The first nine lines of the remaining portion refer to a certain Prola, son of Vidda-Nayaka and Vennama.  The remaining lines contain details of lands granted to certain temples and persons.
2. On a mutilated Nandi pillar lying near the temple of 
Mulasthanesvara, Tadikonda, same District. Undated. 
Incomplete.  Refers to certain gifts of land made by the grandson of Kota Venammadevi.
Where in Kota Vennammadevi who married a sudra (who is also not a big king) viddinayaka of gunturu district.  that clarify their caste
there are several other inscriptions that are kept in secret so that this truth could not be revealed.  all this kaakatiyans, chagis, kotas sudras but not kshatriyas.  Kshatriyas are decendents of chalukyas, cholas, gangas and local kings from (kamma, kapus) but some body misled them to claim kakatiyas, kota, chaagis. 
  
Ganna bhopal was not of kota lineage do you have any supportings.  He was just another ruler of Dharanikota during 15th century CE.  Kota dynasty is different from Ganna bhopala.  Kota kings are kammas. All the rajus claims are bulshit only. Rajus even claiming kakatiya linege.  
All inscriptions still available you can study
The inscriptional evidence for the gotra of Kota kings may be cited.Kumarrao (talk) 17:29, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Kota kings belonged to Durjaya vamsa and Sudra varna, similar to Kakatiyas. How can they be Kshatriyas? Please see page 377 in 'Anciet India' by R C Majumdar: (http://books.google.com/books?id=XNxiN5tzKOgC&pg=PA377&dq=durjaya%2Bkakatiya&lr=).Kumarrao (talk) 10:27, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Gotra

message: I request authors of this wikipage to provide citation for UV Krishnam Raju or Uppalapati zamindars. I know Kota Jampana, Dhantulturi, Datla n few other Raju clans belong to Kota lineage but I am not sure whether Uppalapati people belong to this kota lineage
Thnks
Indianprithvi (talk) 16:26, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request 

message: I reiterate that Kota kings were not Kshatriyas/Rajus. It was clearly mentioned in their inscriptions that they were of fourth caste (Sudra varna) and descendents of a Prince Dhananjaya. Please see page 149 (http://books.google.co.in/books?id=-d9IAvFOUHsC&pg=PA171&dq=dhanyakataka&lr=#PPA149,M1). Kumarrao (talk) 13:02, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have incorporated the above reference. Please discuss.Kumarrao (talk) 12:34, 11 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It is very unfortunate that you decided to delete the reference in which it was clearly stated that Dhanajayaya was born to Chaturtha Varna. If you want to dispute this, please argue with the author Yashoda Devi. I restore the reference. Let us agree that the matter is controversial. Kumarrao (talk) 06:58, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Kota ancestry

message: I've just removed all of the sourcing from this article and also some unsourced statements that seemed either wild or just indecipherable. I then copyedited what remained.
I've checked Cynthia Talbot, who deals with the Andhra country of the period in some depth, and also sources such as Eaton, Chitnis, Kulke and Metcalf, whose general histories tend to touch on most of significant aspects. None mention the Kota Vamsa and I'm unsure whether that is because it is just not really very notable or perhaps goes under some other name. 
I note the discussions that have previously taken place on this talk page regarding sources and, well, they were not much use either. Ancient inscriptions are not reliable sources, not are books published by Gyan and that - plus a lot of opinionated verbiage - seemed to be all they contained. - Sitush (talk) 02:37, 20 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sourcing 

message: The source below says
https://books.google.com/books?id=oxJuAAAAMAAJ&q=dhananjaya+gotra&dq=dhananjaya+gotra&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwivhYfr39HaAhVCrFMKHZx8BykQ6AEIPDAE
"Kotas belong to Dhananjaya gotra" and
the source below says 
https://books.google.com/books?id=BBUdAAAAMAAJ&q=dhananjaya+gotra&dq=dhananjaya+gotra&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwivhYfr39HaAhVCrFMKHZx8BykQ6AEISDAH
"Among the Andhra Rajaputs, there is a family called Jampani's of Dhananjaya gotra who claim to be of the Kota line"
This information can be rephrased and added Sharkslayer87 (talk) 10:27, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone recently removed that content but I have reinstated. I would have kept their statement as well as this one, per WP:NPOV, but I have doubts about the source that they provided and note that  had reverted them previously claiming caste cruft etc. We already have two unsourced paragraphs in this article without adding caste cruft to it, so perhaps the contributor would care to provide some detail from their proposed Shastry source? If everyone is happy with it then we can reinstate the information whilst retaining the above which  found some months ago. Alternatively, the contributor could explain here why they think Sharkslayer87's source is poor - simply saying that it is in an edit summary doesn't really work. - Sitush (talk) 13:51, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Umm....The source added to the article is good-enough and better than the current one (which is published by a publisher of nil-repute and neither do the authors seem to be any credible) but I cannot access it.We can AGF and accept the edit but given the amount of caste-promotion in these topics, I'm disinclined to do it. ∯WBGconverse 15:29, 8 September 2018 (UTC)

text: I will try to dig out other sources to evaluate the situation, (shall time permit(s)) within the next few days. ∯WBGconverse 15:30, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding sourced content. 

message: Researches revealed that the Gotra of Kota Kings is Dhananjaya Gotra, which is one of the gotras found in the Kshatriya community in Andhra Pradesh. This gotra is found in no other community. There is no strong evidence to prove that Kota Kings belong to Sudhra group. The gotra names of the Kshatriya or Brahmin communities (all over India) are most commonly identified by the names of Saptarishis or their lineage. According to Hindu scriptures, Dhananjaya is a king belonging to the Lineage of Sage Vishwamitra.
Dhananjaya is another name for sage Vishwamitra who was a Kshatriya first and then a Brahmin. Kshatriyas of his vamsa use the gotra name Dhananjaya and Brahmins use Viswamitra Gotra.
Arjuna of the Pandava Kings borne in the same vamsa is also called Dhananjaya.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raju Dantuluri (talk • contribs) 13:21, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Kota kings are Kshatriya varna