Talk:Havoc (2005 film)

message: *  Why does this omit the debate about the image of members of one race &/or class taunting those of another race f/ the  fright|thrill??
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message: Is 'The Powers that Be' available to be read anywhere?  Jessica Kaplan only gets the story credit (a default credit regardless of how totally different the new script is), so it must have been a huge alteration to have denied her actual co-writer credit on the final script. The final story itself seems rather bizarre: that white teenagers obsessed with hip hop and black gang culture would gravitate to Hispanic gangs.  I'm wondering if the original script involved black gangs and Gaghan changed it to be more politically correct.  Think about it.  Hispanic gangs in LA do not listen to black hip hop.  And when they get arrested and put in jail, they do not socialize with black gangs or black culture.  And when I lived in Vegas in the Hispanic ghetto going to college, I saw a great many young white underage girls at parties thrown by black gang bangers and wannabees.  I never saw pretty underage white girls hanging with the Hispanic gangs or at their sex & drug parties.  Not once.  And again, this was IN THE HISPANIC GHETTO... where, if it was ever going to happen the other way around, it would have happened there.  Switching it from black gangs to Hispanic gangs, even with the incongruous aspect of hip hop culture still preserved, seems exactly like the sort of Hollywood-izing of a more authentic script that I could see someone like Gaghan doing to make it more bankable and less controversial than it needed to be... especially since he's not a black director who might more easily get away with it like Spike Lee.  Anyone know?  I also remember reading somewhere when the film was released that the original Kaplan script had a harsher ending. 71.65.115.103 (talk) 07:42, 17 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What changes did Gaghan make to Kaplan's script in his re-write? 

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