Talk:Marc Bureau (politician)

message: What is the name of the used CD store he owns?
:It's in the article, although he no longer owns it, his sons are the owners now.--Red Star (talk) 16:33, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
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message: He was listed as the 16th Mayor of Gatineau, but in fact he is only the 2nd. We cannot see the old Gatineau and new fusionned entity as the same entity. It's only a coincidence they have the same name, it could (or should) have been Hull-Gatineau, Montferrand or something else. This is also why I have changed the entry for Yves Ducharme. The old city of Gatineau must be forgotten because this a new entity. --Red Star (talk) 16:33, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
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message: Shouldn't this article's name be Marc Bureau (politician)? Is he really that notable that he should have the "original article name"? It's not like Steve McQueen, who is the Steve McQueen among other Steve McQueens.
LarRan (talk) 10:42, 23 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've no problem with Marc Bureau (politican). Besides, this name makes me think of the hockey player. GoodDay (talk) 23:37, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

text: I type the search "Marc Bureau" there is no disambiguation so I believe they can keep the article Marc Bureau. Steam5 (talk) 00:04, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean? If there's no disambiguation page, we'll fix one of course. LarRan (talk) 00:20, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

text: According to http://stats.grok.se/ , Marc Bureau got 455 hits in December 2008 and Marc Bureau (ice hockey) got 188 hits. Neither is a very popular article. I'd tend to disambiguate in such cases. But I can't say I'd get worked up either way - David Gerard (talk) 00:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess at least some of the 455 hits on the politician were meant for the hockey player. That makes the figures more even. LarRan (talk) 00:20, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be my guess, too. For what it's worth, if only for shits and giggles I compared their hits on fr: as well, reasoning that since the hockey player and the mayor are both Quebec-based figures, I'd be able to see how they stack up among the readers who are actually most likely to be familiar with both of them. While the mayor still came out ahead in that comparison, he did so by an even more underwhelming 110-67 margin. So even among the likeliest audience for an article on the mayor, he's still not decisively more notable than the hockey player. Bearcat (talk) 00:32, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "Underwhelming", that's a funny one, I haven't heard that before. Ok, I'll go ahead and move the page tomorrow - and disambiguate the right pages. Good night for now. LarRan (talk) 01:23, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

text: This is one of those cases where this article is undisambiguated mainly because it had the title first; this article was created about 18 months before the hockey player's was. That isn't really Wikipedia's disambiguation policy, obviously, but especially around 2005/2006 a lot of people thought it was. I have no objection to moving the article, except to note that if it is moved, it's very important that the inbound links actually be updated to the new title at the time — people far, far too often skip that part of the process and leave far, far too many links pointing to the wrong place. Bearcat (talk) 00:13, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If there is a consensus to move the page, I promise I'll take the trouble of disambiguating the links on the relevant pages. LarRan (talk) 00:20, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

text: I have an idea, I believe this article will move from Marc Bureau into Marc Bureau (politician) without confusing main article titles, and the disambiguation title is Marc Bureau (disambiguation). What do you think? Steam5 (talk) 05:24, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't agree. I think the disambiguation page should be named Marc Bureau only. In the Steve McQueen case referred to above, the "original name" is obviously taken, and thus the disambiguation page must be named Steve McQueen (disambiguation). But as none of the Marc Bureaus is overwhelmingly more notable than the other, none of them will carry the "original name", and thus that name could be used for the disambiguation page. LarRan (talk) 09:46, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

text: An undisambiguated title should never be a redirect to a disambiguated one — it should always be either an article about the primary topic, if one exists, or the main dab page if there isn't a primary topic. If the plain title were being used as a redirect to a disambiguated one, then there would really have been no need for the disambiguation in the first place. Bearcat (talk) 01:31, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
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