Talk:Raven (Tekken)

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===Other Info===
His ninjutsu fighting style is highlighted with his teleportation moves and extremely quick maneuvers.  He is highly similar to Kunimitsu, a character who has not made a canonical appearance since Tekken 2. To date, despite not being of Japanese origin Raven is actually the most traditional (and some would say even lightly accurate) Ninja in the Tekken series.  His fighting style, a combination of grappling, take-downs, and heavy strikes has light (if somewhat over the top) inspirations from supposedly real hand to hand combat ideologies practiced by the Ninja. By no means perfectly accurate, it is however more accurate than the typical multi-hitting speed demon style often used by Ninja's in video games as real Ninja often opted for quick take downs and grapples to incapacitate. Many of Raven's other qualities are much more traditionally Ninja (as depicted in fiction at least) like than that of Yoshimitsu, such as his tendency to leave a scene by jumping into the air, his hand symbols, and his poses. Raven's second player outfit is very traditional Ninja complete with flowing scarf, light armor, hood and a cowl. 
On a humorous note, when Yoshimitsu fights Raven in story mode Raven cannot believe that Yoshimitsu is a Ninja, as his fighting style and colorful as well as deceptively clumsy style is supremely unlike that of a Ninja (It can be argued too that Yoshimitsu is quite far away from the archetypes of a Ninja despite being one by profession). Raven in a rare showing of personal agenda, eagerly takes on Yoshimitsu to show him true Ninja fighting. If Yoshimitsu loses, Raven will attempt to teach Yoshimitsu the traditional Ninja hand signs of "Mundra's"(A long time Ninja trait in fiction) with humorous results as Yoshimitsu has difficulty remembering them. Indeed, a lighthearted moment for the rather stoic Raven.
Raven bears some similarities to Wesley Snipes. He takes characteristics from some of the characters he has played in films.  (Simon Phoenix's hair, Blade's style and also shares similar clothing, etc) However, when asked if the similarities were intentional, Namco stated that it was purely coincidental. Raven has enjoyed a warm reception for his unique fighting style, and for the fact he is a rarely seen ethnicity when it comes to Ninjas. He is considered high tier as Raven has very damaging moves designed to counteract many other strategies.
Whatever costume Raven wears, he always has two Kunai strapped to his waist. Curiously, he never uses them in any of his moves despite his rather cinematic use of them during Tekken 5's intro movie making short work of a Jack unit. Another rather interesting thing to note is that the name Raven, obviously lifted from the bird itself, is a reference to the Japanese demon Tengu, sometimes Ravens in general are called Tengu as well. What makes this interesting is that in Japanese mythology as well as history, Ninja were sometimes called Tengu due to their dark outfits and covert ways. Some Japanese myths encorperating anthromorphic animals such as Tanuki and Kitsune often depicted Tengu (Anthromorphic Ravens along similar lines to Tanuki.) as Ninja's. This is in fact, one of the most ancient archetypes of the Ninja.
Honestly, this is excellent stuff. However, I'm sure if it deserves its own section; perhaps trivia would prove more efficent and factually correct..? I'd like to discuss how to format this. -ZeroTalk 20:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other info section 

message: His ninjutsu fighting style is highlighted with his teleportation moves and extremely quick maneuvers.  He is highly similar to Kunimitsu, a character who has not made a canonical appearance since Tekken 2. To date, despite not being of Japanese origin Raven is actually the most traditional (and some would say even lightly accurate) Ninja in the Tekken series.  His fighting style, a combination of grappling, take-downs, and heavy strikes has light (if somewhat over the top) inspirations from supposedly real hand to hand combat ideologies practiced by the Ninja. By no means perfectly accurate, it is however more accurate than the typical multi-hitting speed demon style often used by Ninja's in video games as real Ninja often opted for quick take downs and grapples to incapacitate. Many of Raven's other qualities are much more traditionally Ninja (as depicted in fiction at least) like than that of Yoshimitsu, such as his tendency to leave a scene by jumping into the air, his hand symbols, and his poses. Raven's second player outfit is very traditional Ninja complete with flowing scarf, light armor, hood and a cowl. 
On a humorous note, when Yoshimitsu fights Raven in story mode Raven cannot believe that Yoshimitsu is a Ninja, as his fighting style and colorful as well as deceptively clumsy style is supremely unlike that of a Ninja (It can be argued too that Yoshimitsu is quite far away from the archetypes of a Ninja despite being one by profession). Raven in a rare showing of personal agenda, eagerly takes on Yoshimitsu to show him true Ninja fighting. If Yoshimitsu loses, Raven will attempt to teach Yoshimitsu the traditional Ninja hand signs of "Mundra's"(A long time Ninja trait in fiction) with humorous results as Yoshimitsu has difficulty remembering them. Indeed, a lighthearted moment for the rather stoic Raven.
Raven bears some similarities to Wesley Snipes. He takes characteristics from some of the characters he has played in films.  (Simon Phoenix's hair, Blade's style and also shares similar clothing, etc) However, when asked if the similarities were intentional, Namco stated that it was purely coincidental. Raven has enjoyed a warm reception for his unique fighting style, and for the fact he is a rarely seen ethnicity when it comes to Ninjas. He is considered high tier as Raven has very damaging moves designed to counteract many other strategies.
Whatever costume Raven wears, he always has two Kunai strapped to his waist. Curiously, he never uses them in any of his moves despite his rather cinematic use of them during Tekken 5's intro movie making short work of a Jack unit. Another rather interesting thing to note is that the name Raven, obviously lifted from the bird itself, is a reference to the Japanese demon Tengu, sometimes Ravens in general are called Tengu as well. What makes this interesting is that in Japanese mythology as well as history, Ninja were sometimes called Tengu due to their dark outfits and covert ways. Some Japanese myths encorperating anthromorphic animals such as Tanuki and Kitsune often depicted Tengu (Anthromorphic Ravens along similar lines to Tanuki.) as Ninja's. This is in fact, one of the most ancient archetypes of the Ninja.
Honestly, this is excellent stuff. However, I'm sure if it deserves its own section; perhaps trivia would prove more efficent and factually correct..? I'd like to discuss how to format this. -ZeroTalk 20:21, 17 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Other Info

message: Does he have a different voice actor when he does the Kuji-in,before you fight him as Dragunov and, when he says some lines like 'It's just business. Don't take it personally'? - The 4th Snake 17:50, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voice actor(s)