Talk:Edgeworth's limit theorem

message: To do list:
* Integrate more recent writings, such as by Shubic.
* Write sub-pages on the recontracting process, the barter controversy and Mathematical Psychics.
* Add more references.
* Make the criticisms section more detailed, and add defences of the theory to it.
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What is the precise statement of the "theorem"? I mean, does it have a precise mathematical formulation (it alludes to game theory). Revolver 23:04, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not quite sure what you're getting at. This isn't meant to be a precise mathematical statement of the theorem, which involves lots of messy matrices, the equations of exchange and elaborate proofs involving the contract curve. There isn't a simple y = x formulae I could give, the proof is quite involved. This page is meant to be an encyclopedia article which can describe the theory for an intellegent non-economist, which I hope it does. The diagrammatic exposition I've given contains the important insights of the theory, those interested in further detail can read either of the references I've included. Mathematical Psychics is in the public domain, maybe I'll try and find the full text online and link it. Psychobabble 23:14, 1 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, all I'm saying is, with math theorems, in mathematics, no matter how abstract and "messy" the statement is, the statement is ALWAYS given at some point in the article, although surely not at the beginning or taking up the majority of the article. I'm not asking for a proof, just a statement. It can be done, esp. since paper is not an issue. If you think it can't, browse the math articles. Revolver 23:55, 2 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Psychobabble appears confused, since he responded to a request for a statement of the theorem (not for the proof) by saying that the proof (not the theorem) is complicated.  My guess is there is a simple statement and Psychobabble doesn't know it. Michael Hardy 22:51, 6 November 2005 (UTC)

message: When I put up this page I tried to find Edgeworth's Mathematical Psychics online, because I knew it was in the public domain. It wasn't up at the time, but it is now so I've linked it from the article (here ). If someone wants to be constructive and fill in the mathematical holes in this article, Edgeworth sets out this theory from page 17 of that book. The maths is there, it will require someone with a better understanding of it than I to do more than merely reproduce it here. Psychobabble 03:26, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please note: It's not the content of the article I called "abusive"; it's your contemptuous dismissal, here on the discussion page, of any proposal to add a precise statement, and your nonsensical suggestion that that would involved complicated proofs, and your suggestion that that would not make the article easier for ordinary readers to understand. Michael Hardy 21:29, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought I made it clear in my reply. My reply wasn't a "contemptuous dismissal" it was a misunderstanding of the question, a misunderstanding I flagged in my first reply and elaborated on in my reply to you. I honestly thought he was asking me to write out the proof. It's as simple as that. I did not (indeed do not) understand the distinction between statement and proof. My position was not only that I didn't know, it was that I didn't know that I didn't know, which is why you might have interpreted me as being dismissive. Anyway, I have linked the tools for you to insert the proper mathematics into this article. If you (or someone else) wishes to do so, then that'd be great. I no longer have the time or patience to edit wikipedia so even if I had the ability to do what you're asking I wouldn't. That's all I have to say on the subject, except to point out that I still find your characteristic of me as abusive bizzare to say the least. Psychobabble 23:10, 21 August 2006 (UTC)

text: One last word, I've just discovered that Wikipedia now seems to have an assume good faith policy. Might have been nice to follow (ps. I'm not doing this because you clearly didn't think I was acting in good faith) Psychobabble 01:01, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[user:Psychobabble]] is actually trying to help here

message: This article seems inappropriately titled.  There are many limit theorems besides this one.  I propose that this be moved to Edgeworth's limit theorem. Michael Hardy 14:56, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Inappropriate title