Talk:Raven (DC Comics)

message: Okay, I've been noticing that someone keeps reediting a paragraph in the fictional character biography section about Raven's "romances" to say she has a close bond with Robin. Doesn't that count as posting shipper material? Especially considering the paragraph it's in and the way the sentance is worded? Also, shouldn't the notation about Raven's strange mental connection thing with Robin be under Powers and Abilities rather than fictional character biography? If someone can get back to me on that, I'd be very grateful.
71.96.41.209 01:02, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Question About Animated Character's Biography

message: I think that there are a number of obvious factual errors and inconsistencies in the article so I decided to double the tags so that someone will see it and fix it before it gets ANY worse. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.34.123.91 (talk • contribs) 21:14 July 13, 2006
:Please never do that again. It didn't do anything except make the article look worse. --Chris Griswold 08:42, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tags

message: Fine, but this article is very, very poorly-researched and written. I can't go for more than a sentence without running into an inconsistency or a "fact" that is little more than hypothesizing and conjecture.
For example, look at this line:
In season three's episode "Spellbound", Raven dons her white attire as a result of her being attracted to the wizard Malchior.
This line implies that the sole reason for her white robes was that she was attracted to Malchior, when the episode itself strongly stipulates that she wears whites whenever she is in a particularly positive and happy mood. I find that this statement, along with all the others surrounding it, is very very inarticulate and clumsy. Personally, if this is the kind of sloppy, incompetent work that is put into Teen Titans articles then maybe tehy shouldn't be wrtten at all. I mean, what kind of garbage is that?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Smith Jones (talk • contribs) 20:19 July 16, 2006
:Maybe you should put your energy into improving the article rather than insulting the people who have worked on it. CovenantD 00:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Seriously, dude. You seem really into this, so fix it. Also, please sign your comments. --Chris Griswold 01:29, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I might try to clean that up, along with all the articles on the animated Raven. I agree it's sloppy there but we should try to edit it if we can post on the talk page. Takuyar 14:58, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: That was me

message: I've put in a list of the powers that where used either once or rarely.
For reference: teleportaion (Go!), time manipulation (Birthmark), precognition (forgot the episode),
rapid healing (Beast Within), magic spells (duh), creation of monsters (Fear Itself).
To CovenantD:
If you want to revert my edit you MUST tell my why! I`m putting it back in.
To CovenantD:
You've reverted it TWICE! Both times without telling me why. That is a violation of Wkipedia policy.
:Now that it doesn't read like a 5 year old wrote it from memory... CovenantD 04:07, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: HUH?!! It's exactly the same as when I first created it!!!
I've heard from many sources that in the animated series Raven is seen several times to phase through solid objects. Could someone please tell me an episode in which she does this so I can include it in the "Other Powers" scetion? 200.31.197.194 21:29, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

text: I would rather think of demonic possesion in that case (remeber where does Raven come from), but maybe also Telepathy. --Neigel von Teighen 13:54, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Powers Section

message: In the Mantra (Animated) section there is are a couple paragraphs beginning one theory holds that sounds like WP:OR or speculation. Do people feel tehre is enough support to keep it in the article?  RJFJR 20:26, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmph. Not really. There seems to be a lot of that, though, in relation to the animated version. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 20:32, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  OR? 

message: What in the world is Umbrakinesis?--Dil 23:29, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Control over shadows. --InShaneee 23:42, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Umbrakinesis?

message: Fansites such as Titansgo.net and Titanstower.com animated fan site have listed the mantra as "Azarath Metrion Zinthos", not 'Azarath Metreon Zinthos'. It's the most widely used version of Raven's mantra by fans and websites alike, so anybody mind if I change it? Takuyar 15:08, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Raven's Mantra in the animated series 

message: Just something minor, but shouldn't Powers and Abilities be put ahead of Animated Series Counterpart?  It just seems weird touching on the comic Raven but not talking about powers until we scroll through another whole chunk of information. They're also more focused on comic Raven.
Also, for Powers, Animated Series, Artist Interviews, etc. Shouldn't they be cut into sections for easier separate editing? I'm a newbie to wikipedia editing, so I don't know how to do it. 
Takuyar 15:26, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Layout 

message: First, what are the sources of the Writer/Artist Interviews section? Can I trust? Please cite sources and integrate the section into other appropriate areas of the article.
And, I think Powers section needs clean up. Everything in that section is in pell-mell.--JSH-alive talk to mesee my worksmail to me 11:28, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What's wrong with the powers section? It's as organized as it can be while still separating the comic Raven (and her multiple lives, which have had varying abilities) from the animated version. She's had a lot of powers in her time, and they're being covered here. TalonTheater (DTF) 12:06, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What a MESS! 

message: I have read the first issues of the New Titans since reformed by Raven, including the DC Comics presents one (in wich those Titans do not exist yet, but Robin is "taken" by Raven into taking part in a future adventure with them), but I have noticed that the encounter of Raven with the Justice League is already referenced as a past event, previous to even the events of DC Comics Presents (as the idea of reforming the Titans was made after being rejected by the League).
Was this a narrative trick, an event made up for explaining her origin, or has Raven really appeared at some comic book issue of the League asking for help and being rejected by Zatanna? Perón 18:09, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  First appearence 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Raven in Teen Titans TV show.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Raven-classic.jpg

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message: I removed this speculative OR: 
"This is seemingly contradicted in the episode "Switched", where her powers remain in her body when she switches bodies with Starfire, the latter gaining control over them instead." 
No reason the powers themselves can't be connected to the body while using whichever soul is inside her body to supply the "mojo". Noclevername (talk) 19:27, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Soul power

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message: Why isn't her current miniseries mentioned in this article?
Supergrimm (talk) 17:15, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Raven's Miniseries 

message: There has been a mini-argument going on involving the animated Raven's ancestry.  I believe that Arella's facial features suggest an Asian background, which would apply to Raven as well.  The most common counter-argument is that Arella's appearance is the result of the anime-inspired art style.  This is illogical as the art style does not automatically make characters look Asian.  Arella is one of the only characters on the show with these features and it is not because of the art style; it is due to an intentional attempt to represent Asian facial features.  It is obvious and deserves to be in the article.
Farm_Zombie (talk) 20:49, 26 April 2008 (EST)
It's not illogical at all when almost all the characters look Asian due to the artwork with that perspetive and it does not need to be in the article. Unless you wish to add "But this is debatible"
Jerky Chid (talk) 02:00, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not being honest, it's inserting your opinion. All of that is your opinion. What's in the article now is the extent of the facts. Once you start adding nonsense about exoticness then you get into original research. — Trust not the Penguin (T | C) 08:17, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Animated Raven's Ancestry 

message: Why is there a paragraph on a different character in the lead? I can't see the connection and it could potentially be confusing (well I'm confused so I suspect it must be). (Emperor (talk) 20:19, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quality Comics character 

message: Although WP covers knowledge regardless of individual tastes, and has does not shy away from showing anything that is necessary to illustrate its articles, I suggest replacing Ravenacolor.jpg with Ravenoyl.png, moving it into the body of the article. "Ravenacolor" has its place in showing how the character is often/usually portrayed, but Ravenoyl is more recent and less erotic, and I think it makes for a better first impression. I'd do it myself, but I can't be bothered figuring out the best place to put Ravenacolor and all that (plus this'll definitely avoid a stupid edit war).
Just in case anyone decides to play into a stereotype and claim that the above paragraph is just excessive feminism and I must be a woman who's annoyed by the unbalanced sensualisation frequently found in comics, complete with similarly run-on sentences (which would be rather disappointing to see here on Wikipedia): I am actually a young straight man who simply has the reasoning stated above. 217.23.4.105 (talk) 02:17, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox image 

message: I added a number of references and made some edits, but the info box at the top of the page is correct in that it has "multiple issues" and is in need of some good editing. The history is overly long and detailed. It's too "in universe" and far too detailed especially on events of the past few years. Someone who is more familiar with recent events should edit this down. 
Shoeless Ho (talk) 19:43, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disjointed, overly long, and in need of a lot of work 

message: Can we get a new photo for Raven? Countryking2001 (talk) 01:53, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image Art 

message: Since when has Raven ever been a member of the Justice League Dark? To date, she has not ever been a member of the team.JayAaerow (talk) 02:20, 25 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Justice League Dark?