Talk:Juglans regia

message: I made some major edits to the Cultivation section of the article, as well as added some more information to other sections. Edits are as follows:
Op453114 (talk) 14:46, 29 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cultivation Major Edit 

message: Gaul is Galatai not Galatia (Anatolia)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.229.182.176 (talk) 23:42, 26 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gaulish Anatolia ??? 

message: Stumbled upon this article: A Walnut Diet Improves Endothelial Function in Hypercholesterolemic Subjects. A Randomized Crossover Trial (). If the information is true, it would be good to include the health claims of walnut consumption in the article.--CopperKettle 02:45, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Health benefits 

message: "Tantalizing"?  The claim of beta cell regeneration (if correct) is nothing less than a cure for juvenile-onset diabetes!  But where is the follow-up?  All we have is a 5-page article in a journal concerned with "traditional, complementary, and alternative" medicine (that is, all the approaches which do not really work).  The article does not even report the probability of a chance result for the decrease in fasting blood sugar, and reports no statistics supporting the claim of regenerated beta cells.  There was no attempt to isolate the component of the walnut leaf which caused the claimed effects, and the only conclusions were that the "traditional" use of walnut leaf was supported, and that higher doses should be tested.  One wonders where the peer reviewers were!  Jay L09 (talk) 20:01, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Oral Walnut Leaves and Diabetes Mellitus

message: Before I (Jay L09 (talk) 18:00, 18 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The health benefits of walnuts

message: I asked my neighbor, who owns a couple of hundred acres of commercial walnut trees what common name walnut growers in California use most often.  He said that he and other growers he works with often call it the Persian walnut when distinguishing the species in particular from the commercial cultivars, from the crosses, and from the  natives, however, they also call it the common walnut and the English walnut.  He pointed out that as far as he knew people did not call it the English walnut because they thought it originated there, or was brought to America by colonists from England who knew it was not native to the British Isles, but was called the English walnut because it was a commercial product transported by English merchant marines at one time.  I did find various sources that state this, but none that are specifically on the etymology of the common name.  Here is one:
http://www.agmrc.org/agmrc/commodity/nuts/englishwalnut/englishwalnutsprofile.htm
I want to point out that as a food stuff, many people don't think there is anything common about this particular walnut, because it is a very valuable commercial product, but this name, "Common Walnut," is not the subject of strong biases against it.  Common names are part of human culture.  I personally believe, as an ethnobotanist, that they deserve respect accorded to the histories they tell and the people who use them. I hope in the future we can speak more neutrally and accurately about these common names and provide informational resources about these wonderful plants.   KP Botany 00:15, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They do seem to be referring to J. regia rather than J. californica, but in all those sources it appears to be a designation of origin for marketing purposes rather than a common name per se. "California walnut" is being used in the same way that one might talk about "Georgia peaches" or "Florida oranges". Plantdrew (talk) 01:27, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Common Name 

message: This is the name commonly used in recipes and when buying the trees from nurseries.
http://www. ehow .com/info_12119707_california-walnut-varieties.html
Multiple references to "California" walnuts: http://www.walnuts.org
"NUTS FOR SALE: New crop harvested!  Buy healthy omega-3 California English Walnuts," and "1 cup chopped California walnuts": http://www.walnuts.us
Recipes that include "California" walnuts: http://www.bonniechurchill.com/wal.htm
Facebook Page for "California" walnuts: https://www.facebook.com/cawalnuts
YouTube video showing how to make brittle using "California" walnuts: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZLHD4lsVcE
California Walnut Company: http://www.californiawalnutcompany.com
The above sites are not referring to the California Black Walnut, but rather to J. Regia.
:They do seem to be referring to J. regia rather than J. californica, but in all those sources it appears to be a designation of origin for marketing purposes rather than a common name per se. "California walnut" is being used in the same way that one might talk about "Georgia peaches" or "Florida oranges". Plantdrew (talk) 01:27, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another common name for J Regia is the California walnut 

message: Do we have enough here to have three articles for genus, species and fruit along the lines of Vitis, Vitis vinifera and grape ? I'm slightly loathe to further splinter things, but at the moment we have Juglans regia and Walnut, which covers the genus and (some of) the commercial uses of mostly J. regia.  Since all the fruit pretty much come from J. regia, that stuff could be moved more towards this article (and possibly renamed Walnut?) whereas the important timber aspect is common to several species in the genus.  Maybe it would just be easier to split into three articles - thoughts anyone? FlagSteward 14:21, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Relationship with [[Walnut]]

message: I totally wikified this page accord to WP:plants.  I added many of the images on commons, I don't know if it was overkill, I think there is still alot of text to be added so the images will be balanaced out in the near future--Gurdjieff (talk) 12:10, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikify 

message: Per WP:MEDRS, single study articles, particularly with low numbers of subjects, shouldn't be used to source medical claims.  If there are review articles discussing these claims then they can be replaced, but single studies are not appropriate.  WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 14:13, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Health benefits" section removed 

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message: * "The Red walnut was first developed at the University of California at Davis by naturally grafting a cutting from the Persian red-skinned walnut onto the creamier tasting English walnut tree."
* "They are not genetically modified and were created using natural methods of grafting Persian red-skinned walnuts onto larger and creamier English walnuts. There are currently two varieties of red walnuts; Livermore and Yolo Red. Both were developed at the University of California at Davis in the late nineties..."
* www.chicoer.com/article/zz/20101222/NEWS/101229949 red walnuts history
* WP: "Juglans regia, the Persian walnut, English walnut, Circassian walnut, or especially in Great Britain, common walnut, is an Old World walnut tree species native..."
* WP: "particularly the Persian or English walnut, Juglans regia."
WP walnut articles currently clearly imply that Persian and English are interchangeable names for Juglans regia walnuts.
But it appears this is wrong: the Red walnut was created in the 1990s by carefully combining the Persian and English varieties -- which makes no sense if these two things are the same. If you understand this subject, please improve the articles to explain the distinction between Persian and English walnuts.
* www.superfoodly.com/red-walnuts/ detailed breeding history
"Red walnuts were created by researchers at the University of California, Davis. They crossed a regular Persian walnut with a variety identified as RA1088, which has reddish-brown seed coat. The first cross was made in 1991 and in 1999, they filed for a patent. In 2001, this U.S. plant patent was granted as number 12,264. It is now the most widely sold red-skinned walnut in the world.
"It was created by fertilizing a regular walnut with an unusual – yet naturally occurring – variety that has a reddish skin. That one was obtained from a seed bank in Bordeaux, France (Institut National de la Recherche Agronomique, Station de Recherches d’Arboriculture Fruitiere).
You may be surprised to learn that the regular variety, as well as the one from the seed bank, are both of the same species; Juglans regia.
You might not recognize that scientific name, but the common names you will; Persian or English walnuts. Both are the same thing.
"The rare red-purple versions have been documented by botanists since at least the 18th century.
These variations of the regular walnut have been growing wild in Austria, Germany, Switzerland, and the Czech Republic. Called blood walnuts or “blutwalnuss” in German, they are purple walnuts with a dark and blotchy skin. They are edible but were never cultivated, because historically, the market has fancied light-skinned nuts with a uniform appearance.
UC Davis captured the best of both – the creamy flavor and consistency of the traditional English, with the color and pizazz of a wild blood variety."
"There are other colored varieties too:
:◦Yolo Red, which is another variety created by UC Davis that is buttery and less bitter, just like the Robert Livermore.
:◦Red Zinger, which is the informal name for that unusual parent of the Robert Livermore.
:◦Red Danube (Rouge de la Donan) which originates from the wild forests of Austria."
Analyzing the discussions of breeding these new Red varieties, it seems that Persian and English are both common names for Juglans regia walnuts, and are interchangeable for many common purposes -- yet do not mean entirely exactly the same thing. In detailed tech sort of context discussions, English seems to be a more narrow term for the most common commercial varieties, and Persian is used more broadly for the entire species, particularly including rare, odd, wild, and older ancestral varieties.-73.61.15.212 (talk) 21:41, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: There is one species, Juglans regia. It has naturally occurring forms with different coloured nuts. Cultivars have been created, such as 'Yolo Red'. There's no consistent difference made between the various English names; precision requires the use of cultivar names within the species. What would be useful, I think, is a discussion, rather than just a list of cultivars, at Walnut#Cultivars. Peter coxhead (talk) 13:29, 16 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red walnut - Persian vs. English terms 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: not moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Lennart97 (talk) 17:09, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Juglans regia →  – As per WP:COMMON, Juglans regia obtains less than 4 500 000 Google hits while English walnut has more than 180 000 000 google hits. ---Wikaviani (talk) (contribs) 16:21, 23 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 23 June 2021