Talk:Tok'ra characters in Stargate

message: There is really no need to have individual articles about all of the known Tok'ra. Just use the redirectes to take the users to that part of this article. Lady Aleena  00:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge discussion

message: There is a disagreement on how the Table of Contents should be layed out. I prefer a small one which takes up less screen space and doesn't leave so much white space on the screen as well. The small one is also written into the article not forcing the server to have to generate it. I know that there are other areas on this page which have white space, but the white space elsewhere is not so blinding.
Lady Aleena  08:10, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: TOCright looks okay at the top, but pushes Anise's character infobox way down and results in more whitespace at the bottom of that section instead. TOCleft does much the same but the layout looks worse in the various ways I've tried it, with some of the article text actually overlapping Anise's character infobox. Personally, I think things look best just the way they are - whitespace next to the table of contents is a common thing on Wikipedia, not a really big problem as far as I'm concerned. Bryan 08:21, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was about to mention the squeezing problem with the TOC and the Freya infobox, but you beat me to it. Do you know of an internal way of supressing the sub-headings in the TOC? Lady Aleena  08:24, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not offhand. It could help a little to remove some of the section headers for one-line sections such as Anise's "trivia" section and Egeria's "mythological information" section, that stuff doesn't really need to be in its own section anyway. But that's not a very big size reduction and the ToC will grow again if more Tok'ra show up and are added (might happen now that Ba'al seems to be trying to get back into the System Lord game). Bryan 08:34, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Hm. Removing that "mythological information" section made the ToC narrower, and led me to try the TOCleft template again. It actually looks more reasonable this time. I'm going to add it in, let me know how it looks to you. Bryan 08:40, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to try something in hopes of keeping the bulletted list of Anise's episodes together instead of sliding under the TOC. Lady Aleena  08:49, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

text: NEVERMIND! Byran, moving the infobox did the trick! It is PERFECT! Lady Aleena  08:50, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

text: By the way, I apologize for the curtness of the edit summary I used when I started this off - I didn't mean to sound so belittling of the work that went into hand-crafting that original ToC. I tend to do a lot of quick work putting article formatting into more standardized forms when I'm cruising randomly around Wikipedia so it just came off the cuff.
Hopefully I'm forgiven now. :) Bryan 08:53, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Bryan...I was hoping that we could find an equitable solution, and we did. I am glad that we hashed this out. It was good that we moved the discussion here so that everyone who looks into this little incident will see how Talk pages should work and that they DO work. :) I feel that we work well together. Hopefully, I will see you again on my next Stargate related project here. I have only just begun. Lady Aleena  08:59, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You probably will, it's one of my favourite shows. :) Bryan 09:10, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

text: It is intentional. Lady Aleena  22:42, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TOC Big or Little 

message: The original placement of the infobox was under the heading of the host since the host is the person who is pictured. The symbiote who is the Tok'ra is hardly shown, and as far as I know, we have only seen five Tok'ra. The first Tok'ra we actually saw was Selmak in the brief interval between the time Selmak exited Saroosh and entered Jacob. The second Tok'ra that was shown was Lantash in a stasis type chamber while healing from the wounds that it received when Martouf was killed. The third Tok'ra we have seen was Egeria in the tank on Pangar. The fourth in the same episode was Kelmaa who sacrificed itself for Egeria. The fifth was Kanan when it precipitously left O'Neill before O'Neill's capture by Ba'al.
The host is only Tok'ra by way of the symbiote. Without the symbiote the person would not be biologically Tok'ra anymore. The Tok'ra are a sub-species of the Goa'uld, not the human hosts we see.
Lady Aleena  08:42, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, that makes sense - moving it back down. It gives a lot more room beside the ToC for Anise's descriptive text but results in some extra whitespace below. That whitespace could be filled in by expanding the material on Anise, though, so it could just be temporary. Bryan 08:53, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox placement 

message: This page has been reverted back to Bryan's last edit. The infoboxes on the Tok'ra go with the HOST not the SYMBIOTE. See the discussions above for more. Lady Aleena  07:32, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Considering that's two editors now who've tried moving the infobox up, perhaps it might be a good idea to consider changing the style to suit it? Either by putting the infoboxes with the symbiotes or by listing the symbiotes second. It'll reduce the whitespace a bit and also associate the infobox with the beginning of the text it's about. Bryan 07:16, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If that box is moved up, the bulletted list that is with Anise's Episodes gets screwed up big time. I wish that this page could be protected until people get use the the idea that they should come here first to see what is going on with this article. PS. I am about ready to do my next one. Lady Aleena  07:42, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Protection is only used in cases of dire ongoing vandalism or edit warring, not as a preventative measure. Wikipedia:Protection policy#Uses lists the sorts of situations where it might be warranted. Bryan 17:05, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox placement 

message: Why didn't someone slap upside the head for making the error in the Egeria entry? I am so embarrassed. Lady Aleena  00:19, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't actually read most of the stuff I edit. :) Bryan 17:05, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  BIG mistake in Egeria entry 

message: Okay, what happened to my floating TOC and why is Freya's picutre beside Asise?—Lady Aleena talk/contribs 00:17, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TOC and Anise 

message: AFAIK Symbiotes don't really have a gender, but some prefer either male or female hosts. I remember that Selmak had a female host when we first saw him/her. Is known wether Selmak prefers male or female hosts?
I think the infobox should be changed, to at least acknowledge that the gender may change with host, if not show the "original" gender.
(Do they refer to Selmak as "he" or "she" in the series? They say "he" in the german translation, but that doesn't have to mean anything.)--Cyberman TM (talk) 11:21, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gender of Selmak