Talk:1966 FIFA World Cup

message: Football World Cup 1966 → 1966 FIFA World Cup – following the consensus of naming the World Cup articles as FIFA World Cup in Wikipedia, and consistency of naming the major international football tournaments.
Discuss here: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Football/Competitions#Requested move of Football World Cup articles.  --Pkchan 10:40, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved per consensus.  --Pkchan 13:03, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Or rather moved through apathy. Jooler 13:11, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: I don't understand the comment "1966 was a World Cup with few goals as the teams began to play much more tactically and defensively" - what is the evidence for this?  The goals per match were almost the same as in the previous tournament in Chile in '62 and more than in modern tournaments. The final ended 4-2!
--203.173.42.48 00:44, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Few goals 

message: "England's total of eleven goals scored in six games set a new record low for average goals per game scored by a World Cup winning team. The record stood until 1982, when it was surpassed by Italy's twelve goals in seven games; in 2010 this record was lowered again by Spain, winning the Cup with eight goals in seven games. England's total of three goals conceded also constituted a record low for average goals per game conceded by a World Cup winning team. That record stood until 1994, when it was surpassed by Brazil's three goals in seven games. Spain again lowered the record to two goals by conceding them during the group stage and then shutting out its four knockout stage opponents by 1–0 scores."  - I completely dont understand this paragraph since Brasil in 1944 World Cup scored 11 goals in 7 matches (5 Romario, 3 Bebeto, 1 Branco, 1 Santos, 1 Rai) can somebody explain it?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.191.162.73 (talk) 20:06, 31 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final 

message: On the article about Geoff Hurst it says:
"The debate on Hurst's second goal will last forever. Advances in technology have never conclusively proved that the ball crossed the line, and generally support the opposite view, but Bakrahmov was insistent at the time and continued to justify his decision in decades to come until his death."
However, in this article it says it is proven without doubt that the ball did not cross the line.
There is a clear contradiction between both articles. Somebody with access to actual and reliable sources about that should check it and determine which one of the two articles is correct.
see http://www.4rfv.co.uk/industrynews.asp?ID=51603
New high definition footage shows the ball didn't cross the line. Davkal 12:13, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No what-ifs. Just verifiable facts please. I'll edit the article in this direction. --Guinnog 22:35, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed 

message: Could someone explain why teams were only awarded two points for a win in the group stages and when did this change? James Fitzy 20:22, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Points 

message: Another victim of my Crid Freddi troubleshoot (see 1950 talk), here's what he says: "Every known source, Spanish and otherwise, credits Spain's equalizer to Pirri, who was winning his first cap - but that's not how it looks on the screen.  When a Suárez cross is headed almost straight up in the air, Pirri jumps for it with Roma, but it's clearly the goalkeeper's hand that dunks it in the net like a water pop player.  Not the way he'd have chosen to celebrate his 34th birthday." Mjefm 19:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Spain's goal v Argentina

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:WorldCup1966poster.jpg

message: Where does Bertil Loow come from ? Sweden or Belgium ?? In the group A matches report, he written as Sweden but in the list of referee he written as Belgium. Which one is correct ?? Albert (talk) 10:16, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bertil Loow 

message: On 8th July 2007, the description of England's third goal was changed from
"bounced down onto the goal line then back into the field of play [...]"
to
"bounced down into the goalmouth just."
This latter phrase persists in the latest version (as of 23 June 2008). 
Am I alone in thinking this is a very clumsy phrase?
I am new to Wikipedia so I don't dare change anything that isn't clear cut.
I would like to suggest changing this to:
"bounced down onto or near the goal line."
Please make the change if you agree, and if it's something that won't be shot down.
Rbakker99 (talk) 06:36, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goalmouth just 

message: Joao Havelange (his name isn't even spelled correctly) doesn't really deserve a mention here.
He wasn't the president of FIFA in 1966, and he doesn't say how he knew the result was fixed, or how it could even be arranged.
Sounds more like a "we wuz robbed" statement by a supporter who is bitter that his team didn't win.
Even if it is included, why right in the middle of the description of the final?
Rbakker99 (talk) 01:11, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, that's what the Simple Wikipedia is for. – PeeJay 11:09, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joao Havelange 

message: Wouldn't it be more appropriate to show the venue stadiums as they were in 1966 or thereabouts? Gwladys24 (talk) 23:53, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can get hold of free images of the stadia as they were in 1966, then please upload them. – PeeJay 00:03, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Venue Pictures 

message: At the bottom of the article it said that this world cup was the start of the rivalries between England, Argentina & England, Germany this is untrue although the English would claim this the Germans have never felt that there is a rivalry between them, the Germans have always considered that the Dutch were their rivals so i had removed this part from the article.
Yours Grimm MD  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.9.49.192 (talk) 18:55, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps a better move would have been clarify that English football supporters generally perceive a rivalry between England and Germany dating from 1966, while German supporters do not, rather than removing this true fact. Binabik80 (talk) 20:17, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  England, German rivalries 

message: I was wondering if there was one, it seems like most other world cups have one. Doc Quintana (talk) 00:32, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: IIRC, 1974 was the first World Cup to have an official ball. Either that or it was the first World Cup to have a ball provided by Adidas. Either way, I don't remember hearing any reports about the 1966 World Cup having a specific official ball. – PeeJay 00:57, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: 1970 had the Adidas Telstar. I'll poke around if nobody knows here. Doc Quintana (talk) 14:22, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Aye, that's right: 1970. I knew it was in the 1970s anyway :D – PeeJay 14:30, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The Official Ball

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thread_title:  Dead link 

message: This is Anfield, not Goodison Park
Umberto Baldi
:. Thanks for pointing out the error. Deor (talk) 11:35, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coordinate error 

message: It's absolutely disguting this behavior is tolerated on wikipedia. The video evidence clearly shows no handball ever occurred. There are tons of video edits of this game and the various aspects of it  such as http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvxVGMOgmcU which easily shows no handball occurring. repeating a lie over and over does not make a lie true, nor should wikipedia tolerate blatantly false British propaganda on this site. Any other further fairytales will likewise be removedWhatzinaname (talk) 17:01, 22 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: That there was no handball does not stop someone from claiming one, and the controversy becoming notable. Did they, and was it? That is what matters. Britmax (talk) 09:11, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. And furthermore, the claim you deleted from this page was about Schnellinger's handball against Uruguay, which was taken from an Argentine website. British propaganda my arse! – PeeJay 09:21, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  that's fine it will be recorded as banks lying about a nonexistent handball as that is the only correct summary of events. And i don't know what the hell where a source of info came from. Propaganda/lies are proaganda/lies no matter the source, and this one is easily demonstrated as so.  Whatzinaname (talk) 05:35, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes you do realise that this was in the quarter final not the final, don't you? You seem to think that Gordon Banks was playing for Uruguay. Britmax (talk) 10:03, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. The handball in the quarter-finals definitely happened. The alleged handball in the final, however, is debatable as you point out. But you can't just delete sources and say "look at the video" because that's not how Wikipedia works. – PeeJay 11:14, 24 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:   It's quite difficult to keep all the fairy tales straight when dealing with English historyWhatzinaname (talk) 12:28, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This is particularly true if you "don't know what the hell where a source of info came from". Britmax (talk) 12:48, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Confirmed. I'm honestly a little bit sick of the accusations of lying. If Banks believes he saw a handball, that doesn't necessarily mean he's lying. He may be mistaken, but it's not a lie just because he got it wrong. Lies have to be intentional. – PeeJay 14:26, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Is Banks too stupid to understand the match was recorded and he can easily view/rewind/slow mo/zoom in as much as he wants? I've seen the aged banks still making these absurd claims, not one fresh of the pitch in a hard fought game. Truth is he was looking for an excuse before the match ended, him fearing the worst. But he had his clever plan of England being robbed by a handball instead of a lackadaisical goal keeper.Whatzinaname (talk) 16:19, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: No, he's not stupid. You may not have experienced this yourself, but the mind can be easily influenced when an individual feels strongly enough about a situation. In fairness to him, the video isn't exactly clear and I had to view it several times before I was sure where it had hit Schnellinger; I'm still not 100% sure of exactly where it hit him, and his hand could well have been near the ball. Either way, the video is inconclusive. Anyway, the article has been changed, so you can chill your beans now. – PeeJay 17:49, 17 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Gordon Banks a "lackadaisical goal keeper?"  Britmax (talk) 00:27, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  nonsense about a handball Schnellinger

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message: What is this unsourced opinionated bar room debate magnet doing in the encyclopedia anyway? Britmax (talk) 20:49, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure why it wasn't sourced to begin with, but it does seem to be backed up by this website. I'd like to think we could corroborate it with something a little more official, but this seems good enough for now at least. – PeeJay 21:52, 5 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  All Star Team 

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message: The coordinates of several of the venues are completely wrong:
1) White City and Wembley are on top of each other.
2) Middlesbrough seems to be placed around where Liverpool is
3) Liverpool and Manchester both seem too far east 
4) Sheffield is placed way too far north, it's not much above 53N (about 53°20' I think). The latitude given of nearly 55° is about right for Sunderland (Newcastle is right on 55N)
5) Sunderland seems to have Middlesbrough's position.
6) Villa Park looks about right at least.
Walshie79 (talk) 05:31, 30 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Geographical coordinates

message: I think the Quarter-finals match between England and Argentina deserves an article of it's own, just like the 1986 Quarter-finals match has, I mean, it was on this match that the rivalry between Argentina and England began, there was also Rattin's controversial expulsion, and etc, why not create one?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 177.19.99.95 (talk) 05:42, 17 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  England v Argentina match 

message: "Havelange can't say that  because he was there" that didn't stop people who weren't 
there  in 1934 world cup to say it and this wikipedia to report it. What's the criteria? If it's England only the best of proofs, for others anything goes?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.232.211.216 (talk) 09:19, 25 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  1966 cup fixed 

message: Geoff Hurst entered the World cup stage as a replacement for Jimmy Greaves. But ended up scoring a controversial hat trick in the Final, Hurst's second goal which was bounced by the crossbar was not showed crossing the line in the highlights of the match (available in FIFA+). But the USSR linesman said that it did, Hurst scored again during extra time. The goal still remains controversial. And for experts Frenchman Kylian Mbappe is the only man to score a hat trick in the final 2001:1A10:1085:5901:58B9:A517:2FDE:F549 (talk) 11:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Recorded as hat trick by Hurst. Experts, whoever they are cannot undo that - ever!--Egghead06 (talk) 11:22, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversial Hatrick by Geoff Hurst