Talk:Sopranist

message: Where is the term "sopranite" used? Is it distinct from sopranist or sopranista in any way? John Holly 03:43, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sopranite?

message: About 1990 or so, I saw a lute song recital by Steven Rickards at Florida State University.  He mentioned that there was only one singer calling himself a "sopranist" and he was a Chinese (?) singer on the West Coast, maybe in Chanticleer.  This singer isn't mentioned in this article and I couldn't find anything online but did I remember correctly and is this singer still performing?  Badagnani 08:55, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sopranist missing from article 

message: I have some problems with this article. First, it has no sources. Second, there seems to be some bad info. I have fixed some points in the lead but I am not an expert on the technique section so I am leaving it alone. However, I do have some concerns. First the article asserts that countertenors have a naturally stronger falsetto than other singers. It is my understanding that most male classical singers could become countertenors if they wanted to train that part of their voice. I myself am an opera singer and have had teachers try to take me that route. Obviously possessing a naturally strong voice is a part of anyone becoming a professional singer but I think the article is trying to assert something about countertenors that just isn't true. I think the article should say that most men with naturally strong modal registers can develop the falsetto register to become countertenors. Second, it's my understanding that the technical side of the countertenor voice is not equivalent to female singers by virtue of the length and mass of the vocal chords and the difference in the vibratory pattern of the vocal folds. This results in different passagios or lifts (although some may overlap) and also unique problems to the countertenor voice like mutational chink etc. Also, in terms of tessitura, the article asserts a similarity with sopranos. That is not exactly true. Most of the high castrati parts are still cast as women even when countertenors are available just because the tessitura lies too high. That is why Maniacci is making such a big splash, because he can perform castrati roles sopranists can't. Sopranists may be able to hit the notes, but tessitura also takes into account vocal comfort and stamina and it just isn't healthy (or pleasing to the ear for that matter) for sopranists to do roles with very high tessituras. Also the article asserts that countertenors have to train harder. I think that is rather a difficult thing to prove considering that most opera singers practice four or more hours a day seven days a week for years and years before they even get to sing minor roles in operas. Also, I am not so sure about the accuracy of classification among countertenors.Nrswanson (talk) 22:01, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Factual accuracy of article

message: I added these two singers to Sopranist#Notable_sopranists before spotting this recent edit summary ] stating Philippe Jaroussky and Max Emanuel Cencic aren't sopranists. They're mezzo-soprano countertenors, The former admitted to this in an interview. The latter was a sopranist for a time, but he eventually chose to retrain his voice to a mezzo-soprano. This statement seems somewhat at odds with both their Wikipedia pages.  Cenčić's page includes a section titled Post-Sängerknaben Career as a Male Soprano (implying that, historically, he has indeed been a male soprano). The lead of Jaroussky's page states that he is "is a French sopranist countertenor." —81.151.194.238 (talk) 12:15, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The term "sopranist" in the lead of Jaroussky's article is not supported in the body of the article and should be removed. That Cenčić sang as a sopranist from 1992 until 1997 makes him an unsuitable example in the list of present day notable sopranists. I suggest you follow the previous editor's advice and revert your edit. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:23, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, done - "sopranist" removed from the Jaroussky lead too. —81.151.194.238 (talk) 13:37, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Philippe Jaroussky]] and [[Max Emanuel Cenčić]] 

message: Like a girl 106.208.224.175 (talk) 11:20, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voice change