Talk:March 19 shooting incident

message: We must anticipate future assasination attempts in Taiwan, so this article should be renamed somewhere in the lines of 3·19枪击事件.
Now that we have this article, we should move much of the commentary at Taiwan presidential election, 2004 here. This article should also be linked at Chen Shui-bian and Annette Lu. The Standard: "Yes, I did meet the president ... and did examine his wound. He was very gracious. I took some photos. I can tell you that the wound is completely consistent with a gunshot wound. It fits in with being 10 days old, and correlated with the pictures from the hospital. I have no reason to believe it was not an injury of an acute nature sustained on that day," Wecht said.
This contradicts the statements made on this page. --Jiang 05:16, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I was trying to keep the title short. I think it's unambiguous enough since no other assassination attempt seems to have occurred in Taiwan on that day. It was also a "vice presidential assassination attempt" --Jiang 10:12, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: I think the following line is not entirely accurate.  Has the Council of Grand Justices ruled on the law yet? "Because the law was suspected to be unconstitutional, the Pan-Green Coalition opposes such a commission and after the Executive Yuan veto was overriden, unsuccessfully asked the Council of Grand Justices to nullify the law." --anon
:Thank you for your comment. Thank you for removing the misleading comment. I find the whole article extremely one-sided. Obviously, Pan-blue supporters know better English, and they have taken the lead to write this article. Reading it, a foreigner would be excused to come to the conclusion that President Chen must be behind some sort of dark scheme. AugustinMa 05:02, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: As a info, the Council of Grand Justices has rule the investigation law unconstitutionalCsmth (talk) 12:12, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  partiality 

message: I dont believe 3-19 shooting incident is only an accident.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.77.165.110 (talk • contribs).
:200 Years ago, people believe the Earth is flat.  You believe what you believed in, which is not necessarily the fact.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.109.7.85 (talk • contribs).
:::It was a failed assassination attempt, not an accident.--Jerrypp772000 00:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It was an act, so it's not an accident. It's all planned. Bobbybuilder (talk) 09:58, 4 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  I just don't believe 

message: I have heard that the National Security Bureau director's resignation had more to do with disgust over his inadvertent role in shaping the election results. I'm told he was the one who authorised the national security mechanism which mobilized the military and law enforcement into a state of emergency and, in accordance with the directive, subsequently prevent this traditionally pro nationalist party demographic from voting in the election. I don't know enough about Taiwan's politics or government procedures to check up on this, but I'd appreciate it if someone with more expertise could confirm or refute this.
:I remember reading articles refuting that accusation by pulling out the voting statistics, which suggest that those affected military population in recent years had a history voting for pro-DPP candidates. It was a debate long time ago and I can't remember where I saw it. However, I belive it is a conspiracy theory which can not be proved made by the pan-blue.Mababa 07:31, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re resignation 

message: Someone needs to update this article with information on the recent public recanting by the family of one of the suspects and their accusations of blackmail by the police.
:What's the point? The whole thing was rigged already. (From the election to the so-called shooting.) A great display of "Democracy - Taiwan Style." TheAsianGURU 16:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update Required 

message: The Li Ao article says he had evidence of CIA involvement.
:In February 2005, Li held a press conference, accusing PFP leader, James Soong of having changed his opposition towards military weapons purchase from the United States under the influence of people of Pro-American inclination, people with CIA backgrounds and arms traders who would receive kick-backs. Li threatened Soong that he will reveal the names of the people with CIA backgrounds, who were influencing Soong, to the general public unless Soong reverted to his previous opposition position. PFP legislators dismissed the accusation and responded that Li Ao should reveal his evidence to support his story.
:Later that year, in June, Li revealed to the Taiwanese press that he had exclusive information from the CIA concerning the 3-19 shooting incident.  He alleged that the real motive of the killer was to assassinate Vice-President Annette Lu in order to garner sympathy votes for Chen Shui-bian, and that the killer had been condoned by the governing party for ulterior political reasons.  After flashing a series of supposedly CIA-endorsed documents to reporters, he mailed them to Annette Lu, claiming that she would need to know the full extent of truth about the assassination attempt.
What has become of this? Perhaps it should be included in this article, if the evidence has been vetted. Kent Wang 16:47, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Li Ao's evidence of CIA involvement 

message: Why is there so much cruft on the page?!? It's worse than the 9/11 page before it was finally cleaned up. Jumping  cheese 05:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conspiracy theories 

message: What's that? I've never heard of it, and I'm a Taiwan native. What's it translated from? 石川 (talk) 11:14, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "3-19 truth in-the-making commission" 

message: There are alot after effect after this instance.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Easymem (talk • contribs) 20:28, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  There should be a section about the aftermath effect on Taiwan's polictics.   

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message: What is the "National Security Mechanism, and what does "the "National Security Mechanism had been activated" mean? If this is going to be mentioned, there should be some explanationRoyalcourtier (talk) 18:49, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  National Security Mechanism 

message: What does "The connection between Chen and the weapon maker was established by confirming Chen as being the 5th hand of a possible weapon" mean?Royalcourtier (talk) 18:51, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "5th hand of a possible weapon"? 

message: How could Dr Lee conclude "that the incident was not a planned assassination attempt" because "a more powerful weapon than a homemade pistol would have been used"? This makes no sense. Firstly shooting someone in the stomach with a pistol is not an accident, it is inevitably planned. Secondly the pistol was not home made, but made in an illegal factory. If the president shot himself by accident, or a guard dropped a gun and it went off, those would not be planned assassination attempts. Or if someone already armed, such as a guard, spontaneously decided to shoot the president, that would not be a planned assassination. But the evidence suggests that the attacker obtained an illegal weapon, placed himself in the crowd, wore a suitably concealing cloak, and deliberately shot to kill both the president and vice-president - I cannot see how it can be said not to be planned. I realize that this is a "talk" but not discussion page. Therefore my point it, has there been criticism of Dr Lee's conclusion, or any other commentary or information on whether the attack was planned?Royalcourtier (talk) 18:58, 14 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a planned assassination? 

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message: I moved the page because of the consensus reached here on naming Talk:February_28_incident#Requested_move_23_September_2015.  However, it's a weak consensus, and I could also see an argument for "319 shooting incident" (I think in any case the hyphen should be removed).  Thoughts? DrIdiot (talk) 00:48, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: One observation is that most Taiwanese English media seems to use "228 incident" whereas English language media seems to use "February 28 incident."  So maybe that's an argument for sticking with the current title. DrIdiot (talk) 00:53, 21 December 2020 (UTC)
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