Talk:List of non-professional marathon runners

message: What is the level of notability required for being included on this list?  Whatever it is, there are a few people here who don’t really seem like they would rise up to that level.  Hammersbach (talk) 12:34, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Also let's have a reasonable time limit.  I suggest six hours—at most.  A marathon can be completed in that time or longer without doing any running at all. Exceptions could be made for those of advanced age. Hertz1888 (talk) 10:55, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that six hours is reasonable. I had added a celebrity with a longer time, but I agree with the removal for this reason. Oshtisch (talk) 02:43, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm glad that you concur.  Thanks for your contributions to the list. Hertz1888 (talk) 03:41, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This article always makes me cringe, but I can go along with the above. If someone takes 6 hours to complete a marathon (i.e. 13:43 minutes per mile), then they are walking... and not even walking very fast. I would also like to reserve :Category:Marathon runners for those who qualify under List of marathoners. Location (talk) 04:41, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, official times for marathons typically register for those who completed 6 to 6.5 hours. After that, marathons typically close; and those with slower times are not included and not published in official results.  Given documentation, official results are... well... official.  "Cringing" based on completed times is relative. As for the "cringing"... yea, I feel ya; but they made it; and it counts. KyuuA4 (Talk:キュウ) 21:33, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

text: List of marathoners.  This article could use some clean up and attention.  At times, I tend to wonder if the elite runners are "celebrities" or not.  Notable, most definitely. KyuuA4 (Talk:キュウ) 21:33, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Check out Talk:Marathon for some background on that article. Location (talk) 21:37, 10 November 2010 (UTC)

text: Disagree with removal of notable people who finished too slowly for your tastes.  Even if they were walking, they still "Finished a marathon", technically, and are therefore a marathoner, whether you like it or not.  Removal of such persons is entirely subjective.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.239.248.119 (talk) 21:58, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your thoughts.  "Finished" is not the issue, nor is the matter simply a question of "tastes".  The marathon is first and foremost a running race, hence the article's title based on the marathon's running by those notable in other areas than running.  The editorial consensus above accepts setting a limit, somewhere around six hours.  Seven-plus is stretching it too far. Hertz1888 (talk) 22:29, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability and performance criteria 

message: How about Alexander Stubb (Finland), former Foreign Affairs Minister and current Minister for European Affairs and Foreign Trade? He has run several marathons, his best result is about 3.17 if I remember right. His blog has most races with a story, mostly in Finnish, though there is at least one entry which is partly in English. 82.141.74.36 (talk) 00:59, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Google confirms that he has run some marathons. Which one is his personal best ? --BIL (talk) 20:29, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stubb 

message: According to the article about Haruki Murakamis book about him and long-distance running, "..Murakami started running in the early 1980s and since then has competed in over twenty marathons and an ultramarathon.". That is probably one of the most known facts about him as well. So it is misleading in this article to read "1991 (3:31:26), and also 1998, 2000 and 2005". 85.224.184.20 (talk) 20:00, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is not about Haruki Murakamis' accomplishments in running, but rather a list of notable people who have completed a marathon. Your comment does draw attention to the fact that the guidelines for what information is in the list needs to be clarified. I will work on it. Location (talk) 23:28, 6 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Location (talk) 00:23, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for the improvement! 90.131.211.7 (talk) 19:44, 8 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Haruki Murakami 

message: I took the information from this article and reorganized it as a sortable table. I also improved sources by giving cells for references to actual results. In doing so, I updated results throughout. Please see the article called Table of non-professional marathon runners and put content here (unless there is disagreement/discussion). Oh, and my references need help – very clumsy with those, sorry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Poggio (talk • contribs) 14:56, 15 April 2015‎ (UTC)
:Thanks for this. I logged in today to do something similar myself as a way of coping with taper madness for a marathon of my own, only to find I'd been beaten to it. I've turned the other article into a redirect. Oldelpaso (talk) 11:56, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: While I like the appearance of the list and appreciate the effort that went into it, the new version has significantly cut the number of secondary source citations that were already deficient in the previous version of the article. For example, Here is the link in the previous citation for Pam Anderson and here is the new one. This is problematic, in my opinion, because secondary sourcing is what determines notability of a subject. - Location (talk) 17:13, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: You took the opportunity to erase some entries. For example the only sourced person in the Television category in the old article, Gordon Ramsay, was deleted.--BIL (talk) 17:21, 18 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  New article organization 

message: Does it really count if it's done with a handcycle? How could a 43 year old that's slightly overweight outperform the majority of the Olympic athletes of today? Is finishing a marathon on a handcycle really an accomplishment? Dr. Universe (talk) 07:32, 13 October 2015 (UTC)
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