Talk:Rita Verdonk

message: Reading through this Wiki I am wondering why about the neutrality of the article. The word controversy in itself implies an opinion, so why is the use still debated. It should be removed. On the incidents, I am just wondering why these are in this article. Is the intend again to show controversy. Considering that incidents like the ones described are coming from individual actions coming from a single person or a small group, what does this actually reflect on the overall person of Rita Verdonk.
Rita Verdonk has been more controversial than mainstream media may have acknowledged. When I was looking at Human Rights Watch a few days ago, I looked over at the Hall of Shame article linked on the front page and found Rita Verdonk listed there. Considering the Rita Verdonk has been sufficiently popular for Human Rights Watch to list her in their hall of shame, perhaps the word controversial is appropriate after all. -Caudax 13:46, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Word Controversial and the section Incidents 

message: This wiki containts a lot of facts which may have been the talk of the day at work, when they were in the news, but are rather meaningless in a broader view. This makes it also hard to read for a non-initiated non-Dutch (left-wing extremists who smear ketchup ? Shot at the window and bulletproof vest, but no shot at the window ???) 80.127.227.31 01:45, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Although I originally endorsed this section its maybe better to integrate it with the rest of the text. I've done that now. C mon 08:32, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: trivia

message: I've put a disputed tag to the article. The motion was about suspending extraditions, not a general pardon. Furthermore, it is totally unclear at this point if Verdonk will even resign or not. Intangible2.0 00:02, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I object to this being tagged to the point of my considering removing it. All the content is referenced by respectable and prominent Dutch news outlets. Also, if there is some dispute about factual accuracy, the neutrality of the article does not need to be called into question?  This article is i believe surprisingly neutral considering how polarising Verdonk is. Thethinredline 00:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also it is perfectly legitimate to post speculation about Verdonk's potential resignation provided it is legitimate news (which in this case it was) as opposed to original research (which this wasn't). Thethinredline 00:15, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

text: The two motions where both not about a general pardon, but they where both about postponement of extraditions until a new coalition will be in charge, who will have the possibility to give a specific or general pardon. Please read the news more carefully. Jeroenvrp 00:32, 13 December 2006 (UTC)

text: I have found a way around that? Anyways, it remains false to speak about a general pardon in the context of this minister. This would have been "new policy" which a demissionary cabinet can never act on. Furthermore, to say that "Verdonk was dealt a severe politically blow by Wouter Bos" is spurious at best. Intangible2.0 07:49, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  clearly states that the PvdA only expected Verdonk to suspend extraditions. Intangible2.0 07:53, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  What you say is correct, but regardless to what the PvdA actually hoped to achieve the November 30 motion clearly offered a general pardon to the asylum seekers in question.   Anyway, i dont portend to be an expert on ArbCom rulings and what probabttion entails, but should you remove portions of legitimte sourced material again as you did here i will ask an admin to block you from editing this article. Thethinredline 09:21, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the PvdA itself has said that no "general pardon" was meant with the Bos motion, I'll have to find the debate summary instead I guess. Intangible2.0 10:35, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  disputed tag 

message: I have removed the message Current event above the article. The elections are over, Rita has become an normal member of parliament. There is no current news regarding her at the moment.
Kimelinor 19:59, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  because of recent developments I`m restoring the tag, --Isolani 13:37, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: current event

message: Famous quote that should be in: Ik ben niet links, ik ben niet rechts, maar ik ben recht door zee. Mallerd 17:56, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quote 

message: Did she really say that Polish people can stay only six months in the Netherlands? This sounds to me very strange, because they Poland is EU member state and I think cannot be legally sent back after three months. I wonder how she tries to implement this in law.  
http://www.depers.nl/binnenland/117026/Verdonk-Polen-moeten-terug.html
Andries (talk) 09:07, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Polish people only six months in the Netherlands?

message: Though her PSP membership is included, several sources state she was briefly also a member of the PPR, albeit she didn't occupy any functions within that party. Would this be worth including? A few sources are below (all in Dutch):
http://www.parlement.com/9291000/biof/02995
http://www.trouw.nl/nieuws/politiek/article1868563.ece/Hopelijk_voor_Verdonk_vergat_ze_alleen_PSP_.html
http://www.trouw.nl/redactie/pdf/psp.pdf
Darth Viller (talk) 16:41, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: PPR membership

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