Talk:Death by natural causes

message: This article and unnatural death should really be merged into one, neither is particularly strong on its own. Richard001 23:57, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps if we had a separate article Causes of death (not just a redirect) they could be described there. Richard001 21:45, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Can someone please help me understand this. Why is it that some people are recorded to have died of natural causes, whereas others may be noted down as dying of heart disease? I never understood this distinction, they are the same in theory. 77.96.240.178 (talk) 13:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Heart disease is one of the most common types of natural cause death. Death certificates always state the specific cause, such as lung cancer, atherosclerosis, pneumonia etc. Only a tiny proportion of people who died naturally have an inquest, but in those cases, the coroner determines that the deceased died of natural causes. Natural causes means not unnatural (ie not injury or poisoning). When it is stated that a particular person died of natural causes, such as if a media article states that a famous actor died of natural causes, it means that they, or the person who told them the information they are reporting, did not (for whatever reason), want to specify ischemic heart disease, colon cancer, emphysema etc. Nietzsche 2 (talk) 20:42, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Types of natural cause 

message: It might be helpful if this article provided some "unnatural" causes of death for comparison.  For example, is an infectious disease a "natural cause" of death?  What about an accident, like falling down the stairs?  WhatamIdoing (talk) 21:49, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What about something that might be termed an "act of God", such as a lightning strike? Would that be considered death by natural causes? -GTBacchus(talk) 00:09, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Contrast

message: It's just not specific enough.  Organs fail due to natural causes.  The cause of death should list which organ failure caused the heart to stop.  Just saying "natural causes" is such a lazy cop-out.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.73.133.192 (talk) 00:26, 23 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia can't do anything about that; it's just here to document things as they are. -- Beland (talk) 02:24, 24 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, and I think we actually cover this now at Cause of death#Age. -- Beland (talk) 17:14, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Natural causes" is not specific enough, and should be abolished as a cause of death 

message: Regarding revert of the merge with manner of death...
 Based on the sources I've been able to find, this article seems to be confusing cause of death with manner of death; "death by natural causes" is described by sources as a manner, not a cause. Most of the material on this page was not about this manner of death, it was actually about unnatural manners of death, or old age as a cause of death. In doing the merge and redirect, I haven't deleted any material, but I have moved some material from this article to cause of death, which is where coverage of old as a cause of death seems to belong. Death by natural causes and unnatural death are both too short to deserve their own articles, and can be explained much more concisely in a single article, because most of the explaining is distinguishing between them and noting jurisdictional differences, all of which is now done by manner of death, which also more clearly explains the distinction from cause of death, and after the merge, that also only has to be done once. Does that all make sense? Am I missing something? -- Beland (talk) 17:12, 25 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Support merge. This article is about the legal manner of death and can be covered there, not the generic idea of dying of old age or whatever. Reywas92Talk 18:27, 25 April 2019 (UTC)

text: Comment - I added a cross-reference from Manner of death to Cause of death#Age in case someone looking for that meaning ends up there. Hopefully that helps? -- Beland (talk) 02:18, 26 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with [[manner of death]] 

message: An issue has occurred due to this article being redirected; it is used infrequently (though it should be used much more often) as part of Template:Natural Causes, and this has resulted in a # symbol on pages without any clear explanation of what it means. As such, at "Death by natural causes" is clearly sufficiently notable to warrant its own page, we should reinstate it. BilledMammal (talk) 03:49, 9 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issue with redirectification