Talk:Aristotelian ethics

message: I compiled this page from info I recently put on Aristotle and that which was on Nicomachean ethics but seemed to broad to fit there.  It fits well here.  Uriah923 05:17, 28 October 2005 (UTC)
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message: Here are a list of some possible areas for improvement:
*This article lacks adequate citation (including sections I've added, but really throughout).
*Focus the influence section on the influence of Aristotle's ethical writings specifically. Anything about Aristotle's general influence on other philosophers (not restricted to the influence of his ethical writings) should go in the page on Aristotle, or on a separate page about his legacy -- but does not belong here.
*Also, Aristotle's writings have influenced virtue ethics, and some specific contemporary philosophers such as Martha Nussbaum and Bernard Williams. 
*Distinguish between Aristotle's Nicomachean Ethics and his other ethical writings if possible. This is hard, though, since doing this would introduce "original research," but failing to do so leads to inaccurate characterizations of Aristotle's diverse, complex, and sometimes difficult-to-interpret ethical thinking. Still, it is misleading to write as if Aristotle's views come from nowhere when he may say different things in different treatises. 
*Try to make the focus or aim of the article a little clearer. Right now, I'm not really sure what this page adds.
Verazzano (talk) 11:09, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: These seem good obvious aims! In terms of finding sources which contrast Eudemian and Nicomachean ethics, sources which are primarily about the Eudemian Ethics are more likely to focus on this. What about the Magna Moralia?--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 11:50, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

text: Possibly a helpful source:--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 10:27, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

text: Notice that it is almost completely available online. Click on the link. I think you should also be able to find good reference versions of Aristotle's works. Nicomachean Ethics is certainly on the Perseus Project webpage for example.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 20:43, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
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message: Andrew -- I will look to see if I can find articles debating whether Aristotle thinks philosophical contemplation is the highest good. Verazzano (talk) 12:53, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I have a reasonably high confidence that there is no major debate about this.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 15:52, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you find a source which says more clearly that there is any dispute. I can't imagine it, because Aristotle is very clear in what he says, and it is often discussed in secondary sources. I have never heard of it being debated. I can imagine debates about the details, what you are apparently referring to as convolutions, but Aristotle clearly says that the life of contemplation is the highest one. What confuses people is apparently the complexity which comes from the fact that the life of contemplation as envisaged by the Socratics is apparently not monastic and purely contemplative, but practical as well. Practical wisdom makes theoretical wisdom possible, as Aristotle puts it, and for latter to exist the other also has to exist already.--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 19:27, 15 December 2013 (UTC)
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