Talk:Petronas Towers

message: Why is it PETRONAS Twin Towers, and not Petronas Twin Towers? Are they yelling out the name?--Jerryseinfeld 15:44, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Nah, lots of companies "insist" in bizarre capitalizations. We certainly are under no obligation to obey them, especially when they are so strange looking. I'm changing these all back to something less loud. Nohat 10:15, 1 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: PETRONAS is an acronym, like e.g. NATO. We don't write it as Nato, do we? It's not just a shorthand, it's a trademark, used in all official PETRONAS documents and publications. I work here, so I know how it's supposed to be spelled. As a side note, you might find that even the Malaysian media writes it as Petronas, but that's only because they're ignorant. In PETRONAS's press releases, it's always written as PETRONAS, not Petronas. You might think PETRONAS looks strange, but to me, Petronas looks strange, and PETRONAS looks proper. --Aidfarh 02:09, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitals 

message: The article specifies that the PETRONAS towers were once the worldest tallest building, but there was clear controversy regarding the InfoBox being that of World's Tallest Buildings. I (obviousy from that history record) would say it should be, as the spires were once highest, and it was often reffered to as the world's tallest building. -Sean Hayford O'Leary 15:18, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the right reason, and the same one as to why the Chrysler Building was once the World's Tallest. Architectural spires are a design issue and smoothly integrated into the building. IT's also the height at which the Empire State Building is recorded. The controversy stems from poeple wishing to change the rules to make sure they keep or acquire the record, that they should not otherwise hold. If it was good enough for all the years that the Empire State Building was Tallest, then it should be good enough now. 132.205.45.148
The picture showing building comparisons is unfair as it shows the height of the Sears Tower including the antennas.  Official building height comparisons include spires (such as on the Chrysler Building) but not antennas (such as on the Sears Tower).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.146.109.153 (talk) 00:19, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [Formerly] World's tallest building

message: On a recent trip to Malaysia i took a picture from the 41st floor of the skybridge. The article is looking a little messy from other images, so if someone wants to place it in, please feel free. :Image:SkyBridge.JPG. Thanks, --Ali K 12:58, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Skybridge Picture 

message: The bomb hoax on 12 Sep 2001 is real enough, I remember this from a Discovery/NatGeo documentary on the prospects of tall buildings after 9/11.  The towers were built so that one tower would serve as the backup for the other, and the response to the hoax showed that the buildings cannot be evacuated on time simultaneously.  The revised escape plans call for using elevators if both buildings need to be evac'ed. Jpatokal 07:02, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evacuation on 12 Sep 2001 

message: I might be wrong, but I'm fairly certain these towers appear in an episode of the anime "Cowboy Bebop", in which a maniacal bomber with a teddy bear theme attempted to blow up two towers which looked highly similar to these, complete with the connecting bridge.
: I suspect those were DILLIGAF Twin Towers. Jpatokal 08:28, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appearances in media 

message: Correct me if I'm wrong, but the article does not seem to provide information as to how much it cost to construct the towers. Is this information not published? Johnleemk | Talk 12:46, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cost 

message: I read somewhere, maybe in a magazine or something, that these buildings are also known as the "Rising Star(s)."  There's not a single reference of this anywhere.  Am I mistaken or this reference true somewhere? Eridani 01:48, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never heard that, and I worked at the Towers for half a year. Jpatokal 01:43, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rising Star?

message: last edit changed the elevator drill year from 2005 to 2090.. vandalism I guess but I'm too newbie here to even attempt fixing it (sorry!). please fix and wipe this comment. 216.239.83.250 02:58, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: 2005 to 2090 

message: There are a lot of vandalisms happened in this article.. as much as they happened in Malaysia --Izzudin 17:48, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalisms 

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
Petronas Twin Towers → Petronas Towers — Most commonly referred to without the "Twin".--Húsönd 00:07, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Oppose- Petronas Twin Towers is more common than merely Petronas Towers. As noted in the voting before, Petronas Twin Towers has more hits in Google search than Petronas Towers. Furthermore, the official website uses the word twin, so it also has an official sanctity. --Zack2007 00:46, 16 August 2007 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
Google reports almost exactly numbres the same for the two phrases, so the one used on their website (and the current title) is preferred. It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. --Stemonitis 06:38, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Oppose- Petronas Twin Towers is more common than merely Petronas Towers. As noted in the voting before, Petronas Twin Towers has more hits in Google search than Petronas Towers. Furthermore, the official website uses the word twin, so it also has an official sanctity. --Zack2007 00:46, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div>
Google reports almost exactly numbres the same for the two phrases, so the one used on their website (and the current title) is preferred. It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it to be moved. --Stemonitis 06:38, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: According to petronas twin towers documentary on national geographic channel and Korean Newspaper.
:Tower 1(Japanese built) ran into problems when they discovered the structure was 25 millimeters off from vertical. 
 Heavypaper 02:34, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: link is dead. and that source is clear. Manacpowers (talk) 09:06, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is archive from webarchive.com  I think this source is a reliable than Koreans'.
This is called Koreate.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.126.71.115 (talk) 12:08, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tower 1(Japanese built) ran into problems 

message: The article says they are not accessible as office space. So what IS there? It should be added to the article if known. --Frank Lofaro Jr. 16:53, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm curious to know how you get from floors 41/42 to 43/44.  Escalators?  What about the stairs?JPBarrass (talk) 01:54, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  39th and 40th floors 

message: In which height, is the highest observvation deck of Petronas Twin Towers?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.46.234.72 (talk) 18:17, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Height of upmost observation deck 

message: I remember that an architectural engineering professor once told us in a lecture that the two contractors (samsung and hazama) were made to compete against each other, and the contractor that built the tower first would be given the contract for the skybridge. (I also looked it up and found an article to substantiate the prof's claim: http://www.klseeker.com/Article-Malaysia-Petronas_Towers_in_Kuala_Lumpur.htm)
So, the part about the skybridge being constructed by Kukdong Engineering & Construction must be wrong. This is also helped by the official KLCC web page that asserts that it was done, in fact, by Samsung Heavy Industries. I am not sure, however, if it was Samsung Heavy Industries. There are two Samsung Engineering & Construction divisions, one under Samsung Corporation and one under Samsung Heavy Industries. I was under the impression that it was the one under Samsung Corporation that was in charge of the bridge, but I could (probably) be wrong.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Epak (talk • contribs) 01:22, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contractors 

message: hey there wats up me chillin how are you fine i hope just want to say Hi  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.153.118.80 (talk) 18:18, 7 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tower Calapus 

message: I have heard that the top floors (I think the top quarter) of both towers are empty and not in use. Reason is, that they can not evacuate the top floors in time. Is this true? If yes this would be useful information in this article. Thanks! --Shorty23sin (talk) 08:57, 3 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Top floors not in use due to safety? 

message: The two most recent edits to this article (coming from an unregistered user) do not seem to be warranted.  
The edit at 19:19, 29 June 2009 changes the "Taipei 101" to "Burj Dubai" without any reason that I can think of.  Was the editor trying to imply that the Burj Dubai is the only tower to surpass the Petronas Twin Towers?  In this same edit, the Petronas Twin Towers are said to be the "...second tallest twin buildings in the world after the completion of Burj Dubai in Dubai in September of this year."  It seems that here the editor was confused.  The sentence was correct before the edit.  The Petronas Twin Towers remain the tallest twin buildings in the world. 
The edit at 19:20, 29 June 2009, adds the words "was not built" after the Burj Dubai link, implying that the Burj Dubai has not been built.  This edit seems to be simple vandalism.  
Unless someone has an objection, I will undo these two edits. 
Falochan (talk) 19:13, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm undoing the edits mentioned above as of now. Falochan (talk) 12:56, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent changes from unregistered user 

message: The lead claims they are just known as the "Twin Towers".  Could someone explain where exactly this is in the case?  Is it locally, or perhaps throughout Asia?  In the US, at least, "Twin Towers" definitely still means the twin World Trade Center towers.  I'll put a clarify tag on the "Twin Towers" claim here in the lead.  Comet Tuttle (talk) 01:13, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think anybody associated the name "Twin Towers" alone with them, but you'll definitely find lots of references to the "Petronas Twin Towers" all over the place. Jpatokal (talk) 08:02, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Twin Towers" 

message: Someone add info to this fact in the pop culture section.
http://www.flixxy.com/kuala-lumpur-malaysia-base-jump.htm  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gizziiusa (talk • contribs) 19:31, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Site of Worlds highest BASE Jump from a skyscraper ? 

message: KLCC refers almost exclusively to the shopping center attached to the base of the towers, and not the towers themselves.
Many malaysians would never refer to the petronas towers as KLCC, nor would they refered to KLCC as "the towers" or "the petronas towers". 203.188.235.9 (talk) 07:35, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "known as KLCC" - debateable 

message: There has been a massive rewrite of the page e.g. the History section in the last few days, but not all of it seems constructive, e.g. questionable constructs such as
* Petronas Towers was officially groundbreaking on 1 January 1992 after rigorous tests and simulations of wind and structural loads on the design after seven years of construction and became the tallest buildings in the world.
* Petronas Towers was officially excavators began digging down 30-metres below the surface of the site on 18 January 1993.
* Petronas Towers was officially building of construction on 1 January 1995 by the skybridge of the Petronas Towers is opened to public.
There may be some useful changes done, though it's lost in the reorganisation.
Would it be a good idea for an admin to temporarily lock the page to take stock of what should be kept and otherwise?
Thanks! cmɢʟee☎✉  12:29, 7 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, cmglee.  Protecting the article should be a last resort.  It would be helpful if you could source your timeline and gain some consensus here for its inclusion. I note that this page is slightly inactive, so you may consider posting messages at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Malaysia and Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Architecture so that the opinion of other editors can be solicited.  Be sure to word your posts on those pages as neutrally as possible.  Regards Tiderolls 15:25, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

text: Follow-up. I have looked at the article revision history closer and it appears the IP has been edit warring to keep their version of the article.  As they have done so without discussion and their edits have been removing cited content (not to mention they have no concept of the MOS), I will revert and protect for a short period.  I still recommend that you attempt to gain more opinions on the history section as explained above.  Regards Tiderolls 15:41, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Attention admins please 

message: The article contains several doublings: In the chapter HISTORY concerning the concrete pour, in the chapter SKYBRIDGE sliding attachment to the towers. These should be removed to ease the reading. Hhwg (talk) 10:00, 27 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contents doublings 

message: References to the towers in film and TV do not belong in "Notable events" so I created a separate pop-culture section. I also cleaned up wording for grammar and English, removed some irrelevant references, and also stripped out the two IMDb references as Wikipedia does not consider IMDb to be a reliable source. I also removed the reference to Entrapment filming the climax at the Skybridge as I believe a studio recreation was used for that purpose. 68.146.52.234 (talk) 13:49, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean-up and content moves

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message: OK, I just finished reading the article and then found the article “Petronas Tower 3” in my Related feed. It seems that it’s an extension to the Suria KLCC building from what I can understand. The building cost around 1B$. It was formerly known as the “Carigali Tower”. For more info (Because I don’t really understand everything) this is the link to the article: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Petronas_Tower_3 PIT Sidd (talk) 05:32, 28 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Petronas Tower 3? 

message: In an homage to Hitman 2: Silent Assassin, Golgo 13 is given a contract by an unnamed Overseas Filipino Worker in Japan to kill Mr. Nezzer, whose company, The Nezzar Toy Company, is an anchor tenant in the towers. Golgo manages to break into Mr. Nezzar's office and kill Oswald Cobblepot, who has been hired as one of Mr. Nezzar's bodyguards, with a fire axe. Subsequently, Golgo finds Mr. Nezzar's penthouse apartment in the second tower and kills both Mr. Nezzar and Mr. Lunt, who are both bathing in the hot tub of their penthouse, by shooting them with his Smith & Wesson Model 10 revolver.
And it links to the VeggieTales characters? Wh- Icepunchies (talk) 14:14, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: One might have to read that manga to check, but given the lack of citation and many extraneous details I've simply removed the entire bullet. CMD (talk) 15:44, 31 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Veggie Vandalism? 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: no consensus. (non-admin closure) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 23:25, 6 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Petronas Towers →  – Using Google search results, there are 885,000 results for Petronas Towers and 1,850,000 results for Petronas Twin Towers. The latter seems to be by far the common name for the towers. (Note, the number seems to change constantly and may not be accurate, but so far the latter outnumbers the former in every instance I tried searching.)
On Google News, there are 6,760 results for Petronas Towers and 7,430 results for Petronas Twin Towers. This is a closer margin, but the latter is still the common name.
Not sure if I have missed out anything, so do feel free to oppose with your arguments. I am aware there are two prior move requests, but the common name seems to have changed since 2007. Seloloving (talk) 22:23, 22 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 22 May 2022 

message: The new image of the towers on October 2 2022 Tise exists (cool) (talk) 15:20, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  New image