Talk:Roșia Montană

message: The section on the proposed mine seems to be particularly one-sided.  It does not consider a number of factors:
* The fact that Roşia Montană's environment has already been significantly polluted by previous mining activities (the water in the town is the same color as Fanta, thanks to the previous state mining operations which operated with virtually no environmental safeguards) and Gabriel Resources has undertaken to clean this
* Romanian law does not allow compulsory acquisition of property, so the claim that people would be "involuntarily displaced" is at best tenuous.  Gabriel Resources has already purchased approximately one-half of the residences in Roşia Montană and these purchases were in no way coerced.
* In Effects to the local economy, it is stated that "the Romanian state would get an insignifiant part of the profit: 2% of the $3 billion".  This suggests that the author has a very poor understanding of basic macroeconomics:  $3bn will flow into the Romanian economy, regardless of what percent the Romanian or EU Government decides to tax.
* The people of Roşia Montană are destitute and desperately need employment.
* The claim that the World Bank Group is opposed to the project is at best tenuous.  The only evidence that I can find to support that is a letter stating an informal opinion from a member on a World Bank committee.
There's probably plenty more to discuss, but here are some things to start.
Jackk 05:40, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The article strikes me as suffering from a lack of research.  For instance, if we follow the link on the claim that a majority of local residents support the mining project, the linked article does not actually make any sort of claims about the popularity of the opposing sides of the debate.  It is shaded to give the impression that the poor residents are behind the project, and that those with sizable land assets are opposed, but never makes a majoritarian claim.  Right now this entire section is composed more of rhetorical posturing than of facts.  Cleanup and research are needed.146.243.4.157 18:13, 12 December 2006 (UTC)

text: re unsigned comments by 89.136.53.203 above:  it's NPOV for the reasons stated above.  When I get some time, I'll try to address the points I've raised above in the article... And I agree with 146.243.4.157, more research would help a lot here.  Jackk 18:07, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
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message: * The claim that the region has a "touristic industry" (sic: I revised to "tourist industry") is rather dubious:  Roşia Montană is a mining town with utterly no income from tourits.  In nearby towns such as Zlatna, residents smash the remaining walls of the former State-run mine against the ground in order to extract the steel reinforcements within which they can sell for scrap metal.  This is NOT a tourist hotspot.  Nor is it a beautiful mountaneous wilderness:  thanks to the former State-run mine in Roşia Montană, the town's rivers run orange with pollution.  It's a mining town, not a tourist town. Jackk 18:26, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dubious statement(s)

message: I think that we should split the FânFest section into a new page -- FânFest.  Any objections? Jackk 00:35, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Splitsection:FânFest

message: The statement that Frank Timis "is a convicted heroin dealer" should be replaced with "is a controversial Romanian-Australian businessman," as is said in the opening line in the Timis article itself. Besides being inflammatory and one-sided, it is quite untrue, at least according to the other article and all that I can uncover. The courts found possession, not dealing. A big difference, I'd say. And it stemmed from 15 year old incidents. If there is no objection, I'll make the change. Rosecrans 18:58, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Need to edit the Frank Timis connection

message: Romania 'set to reject' big Rosia Montana gold project
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