Talk:Chaos Emeralds

message: I was just putting some info into the Master Emerald section, and it seems that it's really crammed in there (the game titles should be sub-sections under the "Role in Series" section, but since "Master Emerald" is a section to begin with, we're stuck with a rather pointless "Role in Series" sub-section) when it could have an article to itself with more space. There definately seems to be enough information to warrant it.
I think, back in antiquity, they were seperate articles. At the time, someone decided they should be merged. Still, I think there's probably enough information if you wanted to seperate the articles out. -- Supermorff 21:42, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Should Master Emerald have its own entry?

message: I came across with an interesting theory. StH1 took place in South Island, where Sonic collected six Chaos Emeralds. StH2 took place in West Side Island (or Enchanted Island) where Sonic found OTHER seven Chaos Emeralds, since nothing say that Sonic lost the six ones found in South Island. Also, considering that StH3 and S&K happen each one in a direct sequence from StH2, the Super Chaos Emeralds are in fact the seven ones Sonic collected during StH2 in Enchanted Island. They reacted to the radiation emanated from Master Emerald. So, we could suppose that there are different groups of Chaos Emeralds hidden in many different places (islands in special)? Tonyjeff 15:56, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, it´s just a theory. I just wonder if we could establish the same relation with the other Sonic games, grouping all those Emeralds in separated sets or identifying them as the same in different games. Tonyjeff 01:19, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Multiple Chaos Emeralds

message: For what is said within manuals, official players guides, mangas, cartoons and other crossed refferences, every Chaos Emerald is a divine artifact, used by different ancient civilizations to promote the development of wisdom and prosperity; eventually almost all of them left the ganance took control of their minds, misusing the Emeralds, what doomed all of them. Some of their ruins can be seen scatered by the different islands and places where Sonic games occur. Knuckles is a direct descendant of an Equidna ancient lineage from Angel Island. The Emeralds would be one of the rare manifestations of the deities of Sonic world. Tonyjeff 15:56, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Origins

message: The Chaos Emerald Gear in Sonic Riders enables Sonic to become Super Sonic.  I haven't played it, but should this be added to the entry?
I don't see why not. One could argue that the gear is made from Chaos Emeralds or, at least, shares some power with them. Toss it in.
Jelly Soup 12:21, 28 February 2006 (PST)
I thought the gear was Sonic on the Blue Star harnessing the Chaos Emeralds' power and then floating over the ground on his board as Super Sonic. BlackEDGE MkII 00:45, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extreme Gear? 

message: There is a theory that says that Super Emeralds never returned to being Chaos Emeralds.
During the console series SA1, SA2, SH and Shadow the Hedgehog, the Chaos Emeralds were always used by more then one Character.
In Sonic Adventure 1, this was explained as the 'positive' and 'Negative' energies of the Emeralds.
SA1 Chaos and S.Sonic
SA2 S.Shadow and S.Sonic
In Sonic Heroes Tails and Knux were 'half powered' and not fully.
Shadow the Hedgehog, Black doom and S.Shadow.
:Of course, there is literally no evidence to prove that, and the games continue to call them Chaos Emeralds. No.
It is only a theory and I gave supportive evidence for it to be possibly true
Alex 'phoenix' Wing 20:16, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chaos Emeralds are Super Emeralds? 

message: The gems that Sonic can buy in 06 aren't Chaos Emeralds, right? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DeathGodDragon EDGE (talk • contribs) 03:41, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gems in 06 

message: in sonic 06, mephiles uses the power of what seems to be a 'dark' emerald. At first glance, it seems like the purple emerald, but later, you can see that the purple emerald has a much brighter color. this would mean there is an eighth 'dark' emerald. Does anyone else have some information about this?
Bobcheezy 01:07, 13 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Other than it is a coincidence that the Dark Emerald and Shadow have the same coloration? Mialover730 18:10, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: dark emerald

message: Don't you think that this article should be moved to Chaos Emeralds, instead of Chaos Emeralds redirecting to this page? I mean, there are seven of them, so it should have an s on it.
--Tails Prower13 03:15, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well...that makes a lot of sense!  It's rare where there's just one.  Let's get some more votes on this.GrandMasterGalvatron 19:09, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, I've been wondering why the title's singular. Gurko 19:31, 30 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to Chaos Emeralds? 

message: Are they really octagonal in the first games? I thought they were always just being viewed from the top... --Phred Levi 03:28, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Octagon? 

message: Throughout the game series we always known them to be the chaos emeralds.  But why is it the 'emeralds' are shaped like 'diamonds'?  Shouldn't they be called Chaos Diamonds instead then?  Mialover730 18:11, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see Green Emeralds above. -- Jelly Soup 04:05, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chaos Emeralds or Chaos Diamonds 

message: Here's something I noticed by coincidence that seemed comparable to the characters.
The blue emerald is the color of sonic
The red is the color of Knuckles
The yellow is the same as Tails
The Green representing Jet or vector
The purple compared to big
The cyan remarkably familiar as Chaos
The White one being the same as Silver
And the newly thought of Dark emerald linked with the color of Shadow.
I wondered if this could be a little bit of trivia or perhaps a bit of a foreshadowing of anything (even if not true) of who the 'servers of the 7 chaos' or in this case '8 chaos' are?  But I doubt the Dark emerald is really part of the traditional 7 chaos emerald count but it was just something I noticed. Mialover730 18:16, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The "Dark" emerald in the 2006 game was most likely a coloration error on the part of game developers... it's probably the purple emerald. And anyway, Jet, Vector, and Big have never actually used the Chaos Emeralds. If this theory is true, then it seems more likely that Shadow has green (since he is usually seen with it) and Blaze (being able to use the Sol Emeralds) or someone else (possibly Rouge, considering her connection with gems) has purple. But either way, this whole thing is just a theory.MegaWhatt (talk) 01:00, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Color Comparison of Chaos Emeralds with characters 

message: First, should the World Rings, following the same color pattern, and seeming to be the power objects of that reality, be added to the other Emeralds section?
Second, the World Rings seem to give us official color names, and I would say that the same names apply to their counterparts:
red
blue
yellow
green
white
water blue (strange)
purple
Jon166 05:02, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree
The idea of 'water blue' probably comes from the Japanese term 'Mizuiro' (light blue/aqua), just so that you know Jon 62.31.68.253 15:48, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  World Rings 

message: Aren't we're supposed to be using the latest picture of something for articles to avoid confusion? The main picture as of now displays Sonic 1 sprites, and is wrong in both Emerald shapes and amount. That's really no good for showcasing what the Emeralds have looked like for several years now. Who knows of a better picture to use? Gurko 20:15, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I put up a Sonic Advance pic for the time being.  I'm searching for a good 3D one.GrandMasterGalvatron 19:25, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: Okay, for some reason it says that in Sonic 3, the purple emerald was replaced by a cyan one...  Wasn't Cyan the first one you get in Sonic 2? o.o; Jon166 03:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emerald Colors... 

message: Here's a question.  If positive energy is like light, and negative energy is like darkness, then what would happen if both were used at the same time?  Would they negate or would they make an energy type equal to twilight?  Mialover730 23:12, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Too bad there isn't a neutral or something like that.  Wonder what others would think of it if something like that were to happen.  But if it gives energy equal to the types of emotions used for it, then would it do the same for those who are emotionally in between as well or must it be a light or dark feeling one must have?  Mialover730 06:26, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possitive and Negative make (?) 

message: "The story behind the Sol Emeralds is unknown."
Aren't they just the mirrors of the Chaos Emeralds for that dimension?  Arabian Nights has the World Rings, so it seems that there has to be a set of power objects for each dimension. Jon166 04:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sol Emeralds 

message: They seem to follow the additive primary colors red, green, and blue.  Then the secondary colors formed by mixing two primaries together which are yellow(RG), cyan(GB), and magenta(RB,true purple is bluer than most people think).  And all three form white.  Original i thought red yellow and blue were primary, but there was cyan instead of orange. 71.65.34.160 19:16, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Primary and secondary additive colors

message: Chaos Drives are stated as appearing only in Sonic Adventure 2 in the article. However, they reappear in Sonic the Hedgehog (2006). Chaos Drives are inside Eggman's robots, and are used to fill up the Custom Action meters (varying on character). Light Cores do the same thing, but are in monsters (minions of Mephiles/Iblis), instead. --Ultima 01:12, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Chaos Drives

message: So, according to the article:
"Strangely, when the Chaos Emeralds become Super Emeralds in Sonic 3 & Knuckles, which happens during the story of Sonic the Hedgehog 3 and Sonic & Knuckles, the island still floats in the air. The question is, why does it float if the Super Emeralds are in the same chamber as the Master Emerald?"
Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but... I seem to remember Angel Island being in the sea all the way through that game, and only rising back up during the credits. So it wasn't floating at all while the Super Emeralds were in the chamber, right? Sock-fox 11:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Angel Island 

message: " After the super form is reached, the Emeralds discharge and send themselves across the world (or to Special Zone), and as such characters often collect them throughout the games."
I believe the above text, found in the article, should need a citation. It is unconfirmed (to my knowledge) if the emeralds scatter in a fashion similar to dragon balls, to be brief, or if third parties actually scatter them throughout the world. Let's also remember Sonic the Hedgehog 3, in which Sonic used the emeralds to turn Super Sonic and rush ahead in the opening scene, only to get them taken by Knuckles. In any case, Sonic transformed and the emeralds were stolen immediately after. I'd like to see some proof of this to further my knowledge, so someone please cite this information. --74.194.118.12 09:51, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems to be more of an expanded idea based on the fact that Sonic barrows from Dragon Ball Z. I'll add a citation needed tag. -- Jelly Soup 10:14, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it seems the offending text has been reworded. Problem solved. -- Jelly Soup 10:15, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scatter Theory 

message: In the "Role in the games" section, it says that the blue Chaos Emerald was given to Sonic by Elise, then given to Eggman by Sonic, then found by Silver in Eggman's base, then given to Elise by Silver. I'll admit that this creates a predestination paradox, but let's be logical here. Eggman wouldn't be careless enough to lose the Emerald so quickly. I don't have any proof, but I think that the blue emerald was already in Eggman's base before Sonic arrived (whether or not Eggman knew this doesn't really matter). Silver could have found the other blue emerald while Sonic was handing over Elise's blue emerald. Of course, this is just a theory, but it makes a lot more sense than a time paradox. The world's hungriest paperweight 00:05, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blue emerald in Sonic '06 

message: 'the servers are the seven chaos-
Chaos is power, power is enriched by the heart-
The controller is the one that unifies the chaos-'
The servers are the seven chaos would indicate that the chaos emeralds are the servers...perhaps the hint of them being SOMEWHAT sentient would lead to the thought that maybe they are more alive than we think.
Chaos is power, power is enriched by the heart.  This means that whatever your hearts desire is, the chaos, or the servers, may bring it to fruition and truth.  Meaning it can turn your will into power, not your thoughts.  Though thoughts do help you focus your will on a task I do agree to that.
The controller is the one that unifies the chaos.  Now this can be questionable as to what the controller is in fact.  Is the controller the user that can safely unite the powers of the 7 chaos emeralds, or 7 servers, or is it the master emerald that keeps the powers of the chaos emeralds unified in check?  I would say, that if it were the one who uses the power of the 7 servers that was the user, then it would most likely be sonic, knuckles, tails, blaze, shadow, silver, and I am actually quite bothersome including metal sonic...
But why does it say CONTROLLER and not CONTROLLERS?  It must be that there is only 1 controller.  The one controller would be either the master emerald, or one of the characters most fitting to be considered such?  Maybe it is left as controller, singular, for it would only take one controller to be able to unify them.  Then it brings us back to THE MURAL of sonic with the emeralds against eggman.  Perhaps there is something about sonic, even though there isn't, that can be developed from a hypothesis into a theory.
But that's just my take.  There's alot more to the emeralds than even the creators know I'll tell ya that.  Mialover730 17:06, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok ok so no one else thinks this analysis of the emeralds is worth talking about? Mialover730 (talk) 10:42, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you might be reading a bit too much into it, plus it is translated from Japanese, and we all know what happens when people translate from Japanese to American...  Doktor  Wilhelm  12:11, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

text: So if the controller mentioned is not he who uses the 7 chaos emeralds would that dismiss the fact the other emeralds are sentient in part too?  I read on this section that sonic rivals 2 give hints of that at least.  So what do you call those able to freely use the emeralds like sonic or shadow? Mialover730 (talk) 08:19, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poem hints 

message: I don't see why any of the tags (besides the merger one) are on this article! The Article is long, because the subject features in many forms of media, and I can't see how it's all in-universe! it also contains many inline citations!   Doktor  Wilhelm  17:23, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The length problem is in the Sonic the Comic subsection.  It's way too much regurgitation of plot per WP:PLOT.  It's not that the article is too long, it's that that section is too long.  Is there a template for just a section being too long?  I don't know if their is, but if there is, that template needs to be put on that section and the one for the full article removed. Redphoenix526 (Talk) 16:06, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article too long? and other Improvement Tags! 

message: People are making stupid unconstructive edits rambling on about their gay little "Theories" about the origins of the chaos emeralds and frankly these people need to stop because they have NO CLUE WHAT THEY ARE DOING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:You do realize that in all but one case, each discussion you've 'contributed' to was well over a year old? If you have something to add and can do so without the childishness, please, share. -- Jelly Soup (talk) 09:32, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NO MORE B.S[[Special:Contributions/63.228.61.25|63.228.61.25]] ([[User talk:63.228.61.25|talk]]) 01:46, 22 June 2008 (UTC) 

message: I've noticed that this page lacks references and is packed with undesirable IN-Universe data!
As a self proclaimed expert on the sonic the hedgehog series I can say with total confidence that I know what I'm doing.
Some people may find some of my edits or articles questionable, but I assure you that there truely is a method to my insanity!
My credentials include the following:
1. Played all the original Sonic games for sega saturn and genesis!
2. Read all the comics associated with Sonic.
3. I prefer the facts, not what some people may think the facts are!
4. Have visted all known websites related to Sonic and the chaos Emeralds.
If anyone does not agree with my alterations to the chaos emeralds they may change or rewrite the section they find offending, I just ask you all to keep an open mind and if you change my work then I'm at least deserving of a reason Why!Wiki Curse (talk) 22:59, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Pardon my language, but just redirect the damn article. Probably to Sonic the Hedgehog (series)#Chaos Emeralds.  Really, your "credentials" aren't important to this, since WP:V states that third party sources dictate what is and isn't notable.  Red Phoenix flame of life...protector of all... 05:42, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm at odds on this one. On one hand, I feel the article could be cleaned up and improved. On the other, most of the information that could be verified would have to do with the Master Emerald or how the damn things look. Anything else would be unciteable fancruft. -- Jelly Soup (talk) 23:23, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Announcing Complete Reconsturction Of The Choas Emeralds Article!