Talk:Units of textile measurement

message: Added additional linear distance units; I think it makes it clear that you need to quote units as well as numbers. The nice thing about textile units is there are so many to pick from.
Tried to structure so it could be extended.
Removed duplication; I hope info has not been lost.
(Charles Esson (talk) 01:51, 9 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Serious edit

message: Does 'cross area' mean the diameter? Is that generally understood by other people, I didn't hear of cross area before.
:"Cross area" is not used in the current version of this article98.255.130.152 (talk) 15:50, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  equation for Tex 

message: It would be helpful to the merely curious to have some ideas of approximately how much a kilometer of thread weighs- after all, it's not something most of us really think about. Sample numbers anyone? RSido 19:52, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tex- what's normal? 

message: The section on Thread Count contains a quotation about standard industry practice and the Federal Trade Commission. The footnote properly attributes the quotation. But the reference is not very useful; it contains no additional information about the FTC warning. What would be more useful is a reference to the actual warning, or to more information about it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.31.248.239 (talk) 22:42, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thread count quote 

message: "Denier is a unit of measure for the linear mass density of fibers." - so does that mean the higher the number the stronger the fabric? A 40 denier stocking is more resilient than a 20 denier stocking?  --IceHunter (talk) 13:45, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  So explain Denier to me 

message: If a fabric is described by weight, such as "1.9 oz ripstop", is it 1.9 oz per square yard or 1.9 oz per running yard? My Flatley (talk) 18:14, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Weight per square yard98.255.130.152 (talk) 15:44, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fabric weight? 

message: Quote, ". The unit code is "tex". The most commonly used unit is actually the decitex, abbreviated dtex, which is the mass in grams per 10,000 meters" So that would be decatex, not decitex. 64.114.134.52 (talk) 10:43, 21 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: One decitex one tenth of a tex, or 1 dtex = 0.1 tex = or 0.1 g / 1 km. This is equal to 1 g / 10 km. T71024 (talk) 19:02, 17 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deci is x0.1, Deca is x10 

message: The picture used in the Thread Count section is unrelated to that section, and does not relate to any information given elsewhere on the page. A diagram explaining thread count would be really useful, ideally summarizing the controversy surrounding its definition. If I had better computer graphic skills, I could volunteer to do this, but it may prove beyond my level of proficiency. The existing picture should be moved to a new section which actually references it, or removed altogether. I have a bit of knowledge of textiles and some good reference books, so will see what I can find. It's an area of interest to me. Chellspecker (talk) 21:49, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thread count picture doesn't match article. 

message: Despite the assumption that someone reading this page might have some knowledge about these measurements and the relative obscurity of the subject matter and the temptation to seek information regarding textile measurements here, some of the questions asked here would be better taken up on a textile forum elsewhere on the web. Chellspecker (talk) 21:52, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page is starting to resemble a textile measurement forum.  

message: Am I right that section 1.1 has an out of context paragraph?  I am referring to the paragraph with the words
`a unit of fineness for fibres' as its only content.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.64.29.102 (talk) 01:20, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Am I right that section 1.1 has few words out of context? 

message: Should this article define meters or linear meters or cloth? Is it 1×1 meter? Or 1m×1.46m? . If a source says "100,000 meters of cloth annually were exported" is that meaningful? Or is there insufficient information (i.e. the weight of the cloth)? --Dennis Bratland (talk) 20:01, 13 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meters or linear meters of cloth 

message: Could someone please figure out what this means and put it in standard, unambiguous notation?
: 1÷√((density×0.7855)÷(Denier/900000))×10
86.149.137.8 (talk) 02:23, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mathematical notation, please 

message: In Britain we have a measurement 'PIC' - eg a sheet is 144TPI 68PIC. Do I take it this means 'Picks (ie weft threads) per inch', ie PPI here? Perhaps it could be added.
86.187.156.116 (talk) 19:10, 4 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  PIC 

message: Substituted at 09:38, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

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message: This is information that I'd like to incorporate into the "Yarn and thread" section. However, it needs to be cleaned up or formatted some, so I'm leaving it here until I have time to incorporate it (unless someone else gets to it first):
Grist = yards/pound
Different types of fibers have different "counts", which refer to the maximum length (in yards) of 1 pound of fiber, spun into the thinnest possible single-ply thread.
In weaving, yarns are often labeled as 8/2, 16/2, 96/2, etc. The first number refers to the size of a single ply. 1 is the fattest, and larger numbers are thinner. This number is standardized, and depends on the fiber type; is is equal to NeW, NeL, NeS, NeK, etc.
The second number refers to the ply count (8/1 is single-ply, 8/2 is 2-ply).
- Heddles (talk) 01:46, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add grist/yarn counts to "Yarn and thread" 

message: The link to Cotton Count takes us to this same article (a circular reference).   I take it that this link ought to take the user to the section on units that defines cotton count?   FreeFlow99 (talk) 11:26, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It is because we dont have articles on those particular count systems, and there are redirects in place to the next most sensible article, this one. -Roxy the elfin dog . wooF 11:46, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It makes no sense to have a link to the very screen the user is already on; the use clicks the link and nothing appears to happen.  That is not adding value, it is causing unnecessary surprise.   I recommend we modify the link to go to the appropriate section of this article. FreeFlow99 (talk) 14:06, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free, that is a good idea. -Roxy the elfin dog . wooF 14:09, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Done FreeFlow99 (talk) 14:17, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cotton Count link 

message: I have added the courses and wales. Please comment and discuss here, if anything needs improvement.
Loops are the building blocks of knitted fabrics, and courses and wales in knitted fabrics are importantly similar to ends and pick in woven fabrics. The knitting structure is formed by intermeshing the loops in consecutive rows.
* Courses: are the total number of horizontal rows measured in per inch or per centimetre. The course is a horizontal row of loops formed by all the adjacent needles during one revolution. course length is obtained by multiplying loop length with the number of needles involved in the production of the course.
* Wales: are the number of vertical columns measured in per inch or per centimetre.
* Stitch/loop density: The more or less number of courses and wales per inch or per centimetre infers the tight and loose knitting. Stitch or loop density is the total number of loops in a unit area such as per square centimetre or per square inch.
* Stitch/loop length: Loop length is one of the major factor which influence knitted fabric's over all quality such as dimensional stability, drape and appearance, etc. Loop length is the length of yarn contained to form a loop.  ThanksRAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 14:38, 19 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Courses and Wales

message: @ Roxy the elfin dog .Hey dog, Recently you reverted []. You mentioned that "Not a unit of textile measurement"
For your information stitch length is the fundamental measure of a knitted fabric.https://www.google.co.in/books/edition/Knitting_Technology/1M6jBQAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=loop+length+in+knitting&pg=PA245&printsec=frontcover. It is measured every time to analyze the product and for reproduction( in mm). Your repeated offensive behavior is not in favor of the article.
Please reconsider. ThanksRAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 18:32, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello devvy boy. Did you read what you wrote? it described a stitch, and had nothing to do with the stitch length. it isn't my job to teach you english, or textiles. -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 19:13, 1 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey dog, Do not call me Devvy boy, I have more fancy names for you. So please be warned. A stitch in textiles defines stitch length also, especially for knitted fabrics.
Picken, Mary Brooks (1957). The Fashion Dictionary. Funk and Wagnalls.
https://www.dictionary.com/browse/stitch#:~:text=noun,sewing%3A%20to%20rip%20out%20stitches.. 
What should have been done? Wikipedia is not a place to hold grudges, import personal conflicts, carry on ideological battles, or nurture prejudice, hatred, or fear.Wp:Wikipedia is not about winning
It was better to discuss on the talk page first, and anything more helpful could be added or rejected.
But you can't do anything constructive. It is not your business. Your only aim is to provoke, harras, discourage, and block the new-editors. 
If you are doing good it never means others are compulsorily harming the projects. You are a bane on here and maligning the respectful Wikipedia community. 
Rather than re-editing stitch with stitch length(Or any other possible correction), you deleted the things.
I am not going to tolerate this anymore and report your harassing behavior to the admins. Better you stay away with my edits and let the other reviewers see them. You are crossing the limits by following my edits.
Harassment is a pattern of repeated offensive behavior that appears to a reasonable observer to intentionally target a specific personWP: Harassment 
Editors engaged in a dispute should reach consensus or pursue dispute resolution rather than edit warring.WP:Edit warring
And I told you many times, kindly stay focused on the article, not on the users. The Stenter talk is still incomplete. Thanks RAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 04:09, 2 October 2020 (UTC)

text: Hey devvy boy, if you keep calling me dog, I will continue calling you devvy boy, until you stop. Also, there is no need to pinbg me, so please stop. Also note that I have removed your post from my talk page because you copied my posts again. please dont do that, how many times must I ask? -Roxy the inedible dog . wooF 05:07, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Roxy, I was never calling you a dog to annoy you, I was using this because you yourself use it(maybe to browbeat other users but it is not cool) and it is very much in your user name if you are feeling offended with the same I shall not call you "a dog" anymore. Stay calm and make sure no disruptions in my work. ThanksRAJIVVASUDEV (talk) 05:40, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stitch length

message: This is confusing because I've never seen a definition involving weight before. All uses of denier with nylon have been related to the number of threads. Turkeyphant 12:16, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent, that means you have learned something. Denier has nothing to do with number of threads. -Roxy  the sceptical dog. wooF 13:05, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Denier 

message: in this diff by User:SidP added a whole slew of changes, including conversion templates that have  banjaxed the formulae of the various count and measurement systems.
Please can they be removed to restore the accuracy of the text. The whole point of the various systems of measurement is that the units involved are not converted. Thanks. -Roxy the dog  00:25, 24 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conversion templates need removing 

message: The linked page is a blog post from a company selling bedclothes. The gist of the page is "our thread counts may be lower, but our threads and weaving patterns are better than products with higher counts." This may in fact be true, but can hardly be considered an encyclopedic level citation. I suspect some of this section was written by the company? Also the citation "What is thread count?" goes to a dead link. This whole area needs attention. Crag (talk) 03:07, 13 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation "Busting the thread count myth" may be biased