Talk:North West Football League

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Based on your objection to having a current ladder, when are you going to remove the AFL ladder and templates, aswell as all those soccer ladders and templates and whatever other ladder you feel like removing? Stony (talk) 23:22, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll look into that. They certainly should not be there. AFL-Cool (talk) 10:44, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK, here's the deal. This page for the NTFL is about the league. The page about the AFL does NOT contain a current ladder - that's on a different page entirely (2008 AFL season). Pages about leagues should NOT have a current ladder per what I said in my edit. A page about a current season of a league however can. AFL-Cool (talk) 10:49, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  no problem but why remove the ladder why not simply create a new page and link it? Stony (talk) 11:11, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  You'll have to provide the same sort of pages for the VFL, the SANFL, the WAFL as well at least otherwise you'll run into notability issues. The AFL is the only football league that has such a page - and I defy you to prove the NTFL has notability to such a level. AFL-Cool (talk) 13:30, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: What??

message: Cooee didn't merge with the Burnie Tigers until late in 1994 matey.
The Cooee Bulldogs wore a Gold with Dark Green striped guernsey in the NWFU (this from a distance looked like Hawthorn).
When Cooee announced they were entering into the Statewide League, they also announced that they were changing their name to 'Burnie Hawks' (South Launceston had already claimed Bulldogs and Cooee's jumpers looked like Hawthorn so they went with that).
This seriously miffed the Burnie Tigers because their belief was that "there's only one team called Burnie, and you're not it!".
The Burnie Tigers continued on in the NTFL until 1993-1994 and the two clubs had a running war right up until they merged when Peter German came to Burnie.
If Burnie Tigers had merged in 1987 with Cooee, how come one of my uncles played in the Reserves at the Tigers until 1989?
How come Burnie Tigers won the 1992 NTFL Premiership?
How come former VFL star Mark Lee came over to coach 'Burnie', thinking it was the TFL Hawks, but instead it was the NTFL Tigers?
They merged in late 1994, I was present at the Burnie Hawks final game at West Park in August 1994 against the Hobart Tigers. Hawks won 11.15 (81) to Hobart 10.10 (70) in front of 705 people.
At the time, nobody knew it would be their final game as the Hawks.
Furthermore, I suggest you look up Fullpointsfooty website and even the Burnie Dockers own website to back this up.
Forfuxake (talk) 02:05, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Full Points Footy has some serious gaps in it so I wouldn't rely on that. If Cooee and Burnie Hawks were the same club, what were they doing playing at West Park to begin with? Sorry - but there are a lot of unanswered questions here. I was of the understanding the Burnie Tigers and Burnie Hawks were the same club. We need another source, and at present the Burnie Advocate (from memory) isn't backing you up. I'll look it up when I have the time. I can't help it if I find your contribution to be inaccurate on what is out there beyond the Dockers website (which is a primary source only). AFL-Cool (talk) 08:18, 10 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Opinion doesn't equal fact. Neither does WP:OR, which is what you're presenting at present. The best third party source for this is the Advocate, not personal experience or league year books (which are a primary source). Until the difference is sorted out once and for all - and with a consensus of agreement - we need to leave the article as is. AFL-Cool (talk) 10:24, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

text: The Advocate is independent and neutral. You appear unable to expand the article without violating WP:OR or WP:RS which has to do with WP policy and not personal experience of either of us. You would be well advised also to consider WP:CIVIL before responding. I know more about football in Tasmania than you realise. AFL-Cool (talk) 23:15, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Obviously they didn't research their own paper. This information contradicts what they put in the paper at the time. So the problem isn't resolved. It has just been greyed up further. AFL-Cool (talk) 01:39, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  You are both wrong - and right. I have it on good authority that Cooee wanted to leave the NWFU and they were prevented from doing so. So they folded and then reformed as the Burnie Hawks. This more or less fits what both of you said. It's a common trick. Obviously Forfuxake considers this as immaterial, which a lot of club histories do. Hence he believes he is right. AFL-Cool considers this as significant, which is also right for the same reason. There are arguments that work on both sides, and don't work on both sides. I don't see how this can be resolved myself. Mal Case (talk) 09:01, 2 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cooee

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