Talk:CMT (American TV channel)

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:CMTUSAlogoPNG.png

message: Withdrawn Parsecboy (talk) 00:12, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support per nom, also CMT (Canada) doesn't go by Country Music Television (Canada). --Caldorwards4 (talk) 02:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Any additional comments:
*"MTV Networks Inc." is the legal name of the company, as opposed to CMT which is not the legal name of Country Music Television, Inc. --Bejnar (talk) 10:18, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

text: *Okay, good enough for me. Withdrawn. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 15:58, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

text: **The legal names are irrelevant. Wikipedia naming conventions specify that "article naming should prefer what the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature." There is no reason for us to care one whit what the legal name of either MTV or CMT is. And just for the record, "MTV Networks Inc." is the not the name of the TV station – it is the name of the company that owns both MTV and CMT. Kaldari (talk) 16:02, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The answer to that is that acronyms tend to be ambiguous, especially three letter ones.  I had never heard of CMT, the Country Music Television channel, until this discussion, but I had heard of Core Molding Technologies Inc., a 22 million dollar company out of Ohio, whose NYSE symbol is CMT. They first went public in 1997. Like most non-entertainment industry companies it does not have a Wikipedia article to its name.  --Bejnar (talk) 21:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you taken a look at this? In case you're not familiar with the country music industry, those are all articles for country musicians, country songs, or shows on CMT (the channel). Kaldari (talk) 21:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I don't care much one way or the other, but you should frame your argument in relation to the guidelines, i.e. show that "CMT" is not recognized as the channel more than "Country Music Television" is. If you haven't heard of the channel whatsoever, then you're not in a position to know which term is more often recognized as the channel. Kaldari (talk) 22:03, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, one cannot prove a negative.  The burden is on those who support a move to justify it.  CMT is ambiguous, that is not in dispute.  Now can the proponents of the move show that CMT's recognition coefficient as Country Music Television is high enough in the general population that that ambiguity doesn't matter? --70.57.246.220 (talk) 23:29, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support per nom, also CMT (Canada) doesn't go by Country Music Television (Canada). --Caldorwards4 (talk) 02:50, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: :Any additional comments:
*"MTV Networks Inc." is the legal name of the company, as opposed to CMT which is not the legal name of Country Music Television, Inc. --Bejnar (talk) 10:18, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: *Okay, good enough for me. Withdrawn. Ten Pound Hammer and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 15:58, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

text: **The legal names are irrelevant. Wikipedia naming conventions specify that "article naming should prefer what the greatest number of English speakers would most easily recognize, with a reasonable minimum of ambiguity, while at the same time making linking to those articles easy and second nature." There is no reason for us to care one whit what the legal name of either MTV or CMT is. And just for the record, "MTV Networks Inc." is the not the name of the TV station – it is the name of the company that owns both MTV and CMT. Kaldari (talk) 16:02, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The answer to that is that acronyms tend to be ambiguous, especially three letter ones.  I had never heard of CMT, the Country Music Television channel, until this discussion, but I had heard of Core Molding Technologies Inc., a 22 million dollar company out of Ohio, whose NYSE symbol is CMT. They first went public in 1997. Like most non-entertainment industry companies it does not have a Wikipedia article to its name.  --Bejnar (talk) 21:14, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you taken a look at this? In case you're not familiar with the country music industry, those are all articles for country musicians, country songs, or shows on CMT (the channel). Kaldari (talk) 21:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I don't care much one way or the other, but you should frame your argument in relation to the guidelines, i.e. show that "CMT" is not recognized as the channel more than "Country Music Television" is. If you haven't heard of the channel whatsoever, then you're not in a position to know which term is more often recognized as the channel. Kaldari (talk) 22:03, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, one cannot prove a negative.  The burden is on those who support a move to justify it.  CMT is ambiguous, that is not in dispute.  Now can the proponents of the move show that CMT's recognition coefficient as Country Music Television is high enough in the general population that that ambiguity doesn't matter? --70.57.246.220 (talk) 23:29, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: CMT was originally called "CMTV".  The first logo was the CMTV logo.  The second, used exclusively from June 1983 to summer of 1984 was the full title "Country Music Television" (see logo examples on http://www.cmtcountry.com).  The third logo was the block letter logo used in various forms from the latter part of 1984 through the Gaylord years and into the CBS/Viacom acquisition (this included a more 3 dimensional block letter format, but still essentially the same basic "blocks" logo).  Sometime in 2004 the logo was changed to a serifed western style in use today.
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:That website, http://www.cmtcountry.com, is not the official site, and appears to be a personal web page, and as such, is not considered a reliable source. Rockypedia (talk) 23:57, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  CMT logo history 

message: This edit makes the unsourced claim that a song was "(t)he first independent Country Music Video to make the CMT chart". In addition to being unsourced, the claim is trivial in relation to the subject. We might as well list various other "firsts" on the chart: first song in a minor key, first song by an Asian artist, first song by an LGBT artist, etc. If a source can be found, the content might be appropriate for the artist or song's article (if there is one). - SummerPhD (talk) 02:08, 3 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "First independent Country Music Video to make the CMT chart" 

message: Put mom back on !!!!!!we don't need Mike and  Molly  and the Golden  girls on every night  Bring back mom mom was way better than the other shows !!!! 108.16.36.222 (talk) 02:53, 22 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mom why isn't  it  on ????? 

message: Page has Significant FORMATTING Issue - With table in the Cast Section. I think person who edited add portion on the 2022 season messes it up- follow on seasons are merged- within the first table.- I tried - tables can be difficult Wfoj3 (talk) 14:17, 21 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Significant FORMAT Issue page - as of 21- May 

message: Why do you keep Young Sheldon on there,it sucks ! It's already on TBS on Saturday,really? Where are the good movies you USED to show ? 67.158.142.81 (talk) 21:18, 24 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Young Sheldon  

message: Why was the video dropped for the song Try That In A Small Town? 2601:282:237F:6A70:E48B:5F88:B7CC:CDE5 (talk) 03:58, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jason Aldean 

message: I will no longer be watching this network as it has become woke. it's leftist policies are going to make it the Bud light of music 2600:100A:B01D:841E:6333:7F88:9E15:D50A (talk) 17:13, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  canceling James Aldean hometown song