Talk:James E. West (Scouting)

message: Please argue for change of name for the James E. West article on the disgraced politician. The guy moved it back to the earlier name, and now all James E. West searches disambig to the disgraced politician. Chris 06:32, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[James E. West (politician)]]

message: Fixed the info on who served before West, based on info on the recent West bio which is already on the Chief Scout Executive page.  Also added some of the other books West wrote/edited.  I think that's all of them, except for the Jamboree book he did.  Hopefully others can add data to this list.  --Emb021 14:06, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Additions/fixes

message: Is his grave in Valhalla, New York really untended? 
http://www.wpcbsa.org/Contact
Someone should contact the local council to find out for sure. --evrik 22:02, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Guess it depends on your concept of untended.  The Rowan book makes it appear that West is no longer appreciated for his work in the BSA.  The book makes me appreciate the man and his deeds.  West was autocratic, demanding, self-aggrandizing, tireless, dedicated, patriotic and focused.  Just the kind of person to get the BSA through the first third of the BSA history.   --Gadget850 ( Ed) 00:22, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Grave

message: Someone removed some plagiarized content, someone else put it back, I've removed it again.  It was taken from http://www.threefirescouncil.org/History/founders.htm  Don't put it back.  If the information is important, someone should rewrite it in their own words and site the page as a source.  --Xyzzyplugh 06:12, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't be so high and mighty. Yours is not the only source for this info. It appears almost word for word in other sources. Why doesn't your site cite its sources? I'm sure your council didn't do all this research on its own. Rlevse 12:14, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

text: "West virtually deleted Boyce's name from BSA records."
It just isn't true.  If it had said Seton, then yes.  West actually emphasized Boyce as the founder of the BSA, apparently to stop the squabbling between Seton and Beard.  Boyce received a Silver Beaver after the LSA merger- that would not have happened if West was against it. --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:17, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

text: "It probably comes from some BSA handbook or some such." Precisely my point, which means they plagarized it from somewhere and are in copyvio themselves as they don't cite their sources and have a copyright tag at the bottom of the page.Rlevse 13:33, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that's their bad.  We don't need it, so let it go.  We have enough on our plate.  --Gadget850 ( Ed) 13:40, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

text: There's User:W.marsh/list, a list wikipedia editors were/are using to fix the problems.  There's also a webpage by the wikipedia critic Daniel Brandt, which is where the list originally comes from:  wikipedia-watch.org/psamples.html --Xyzzyplugh 14:41, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, but the pot shouldn't be calling the kettle black.
Rlevse 16:15, 5 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Plagiarized content removed

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