Talk:MacOS/Archive 1

message: I have a few questions, if someone would pls answer them on the main article:
* does Mac OS X use ELF binaries?
* does it use a standard X11R6 compatible interface?
* and the real big question: how can MacOSX binaries be run on other Unix OSes, such as Linux?
Thanks -- Michael
*No, OS X doesn't, it uses dyld, just like OPENSTEP and NEXTSTEP
*It has an X interface, but it's not used natively for graphics
*And I don't know about the third. 
The stuff on X is in the main article, but I don't know how appropriate it would be to mention the OS X executable format in this article; Microsoft Windows doesn't discuss stuff about the PE format...
HTH
Dysprosia 07:40, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: The binary format is MachO or Mach-O; dyld is the name of the dynamic linker.  It ought to be mentioned, in the main article unless it gets so long than one needs a separate Mac OS X internals article. Windows uses several obj formats, so getting the mentions right is a little more complicated. Stan 13:33, 30 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Three questions

message: I removed this:
"In retrospect it seems that the original Rhapsody plan may have been the more reasonable one after all. Although it took some time, developers have been slowly moving to the newer Cocoa libraries after all. Meanwhile the "easy porting" to Carbon turned out to often be somewhat oversold. It can be argued that an "invisible blue box", in which classic applications ran in their own windows, would have been just as acceptable as Carbon, but would have delayed release perhaps a year instead of two."
It's pure opinion, and hence highly POV. As a Mac developer, I also happen to disagree with it - Carbon porting is actually pretty easy as far as I am concerned - I guess it depends on how good your code was in the first place. In any case, I don't think there's much room for "if x had happened instead of y" arguments on WP. Graham 11:36, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: POV Carbon paragraph

message: I removed the press release segment. I don't think it adds anything to the article, it looks untidy, the info is easily found if someone wants to know more, and it could be seen as POV. I hope this won't be controversial ;-) Graham 04:05, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no problem with it. There are all of the external links... and to be perfectly honest, as someone who reads a lot of Apple's online documentation on a daily basis, I'm rather sick of their relentless self-promotion: "In order to create a menu item in a Cocoa project, you first have to understand that COCOA IS THE GREATEST THING SINCE SLICED BREAD..." ;-) func(talk) 04:49, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: LOL! If only they put as much effort into the actual developer documentation! Of course, Cocoa is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but I would have assumed that if you're reading the "how to create a menu" document you already know that - so quit with the ads, you've sold it already!!! Graham 05:46, 17 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Press Release 

message: (Yes, I know this is not really appropriate, but ...)
Can one of you smart OS X people contact me at tinsman99@yahoo? My iMac is coughing up furballs and sometimes I swear I am the only Mac user in this Kingdom. [[Paul, in Saudi 05:03, 4 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Try http://discussions.info.apple.com/  MFNickster 19:26, 6 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Little Help Please?

message: Am I missing the joke with the code name "Ocelot?" I know it's a big cat, but is it supposed to sound like "owes a lot?" "Owe us a lot?" "OS a lot?" I think it's kind of cute, but maybe it should at least have an attribution if we're going to keep it in the article. MFNickster 03:51, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I may be missing the joke as well, but AFAIK, this was something that cropped up on Slashdot a few days ago, and that's where the "running joke" started. This seems to be an attempt by someone to try and propagate the joke by posting it on Wikipedia as if it were already an established thing. In other words it will only become a running joke if WP retains it, and since we are not in the business of "original research" (or at least try to observe what's going on in the world rather than influence it) then this should probably be removed from the text. Unless of course I have missed a deeper joke here - but as you say, some attribution and proof is needed if it is to be kept. Graham 04:59, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Codenames and Running Joke

message: Umm, the box says Tiger on it...
MicahMN | Talk 18:35, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Caption for the OS X Box