Talk:Basque–Icelandic pidgin

message: The article states "mala" is Castilian and Portuguese for "bad". This is incorrect for Portuguese, where the actual form is "má" (feminine), derived from Iberic Medieval Latin mala through a possible *maa. The lost -l- still shows in derived words like malícia, "malice". I don't know how to rephrase it. 189.79.66.216 (talk) 06:54, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: untitled

message: The first statement of the article is doubtful, as the only indication of this pidgin to have ever been used in Iceland are found in the glossaries. Peter Bakker has suggested that this pidgin (or lingua franca, as this can hardly be called a fully fledged pidgin) developed around Spitzbergen in communication between the whalers situated there (basques, danes, dutch and british). That would explain the number of words from other languages than basque, spanish/french and icelandic. Some words ("klinke") point to dutch, there are a number of english words ("bollox" (or "bollocks")) and some danish words. And if it was really a basque icelandic pigdin, one would expect some icelandic words there.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.208.137.183 (talk) 00:33, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That theory makes sense. If you get a reference, it would be good to mention it in the article. --Error (talk) 00:30, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: spoken in Iceland?

message: Viola Miglio and Ricardo Etxepare - "A new Basque - Icelandic glossary of the 17th century."
: Viola Miglio of University California Santa Barbara spoke on the discovery and interpretation of a new, fourth Icealandic glossary.  The 4th Icelandic Glossary, discovered in a library in Harvard, is unique in its subject matter and grammar, thus, until recently, it was not identified as an Icelandic Glossary.
The reference seems to be:
Miglio, V. G. (2008). Go shag a horse!”: The 17th–18th Century Basque-Icelandic Glossaries Revisited. Journal of the North Atlantic, 1(1), 25-36. Retrieved from http://www.bioone.org/perlserv/?request=get-abstract&doi=10.3721%2F071010
--Error (talk) 01:09, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  A fourth glossary? 

message: In which language is this title (and the corresponding book)? Varlaam (talk) 17:46, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Glossaria duo vasco-islandica'' 

message: There are unfortunatly a great deal of misunderstanding in this article (as well as in many other language versions on this subject). The Basque-Icelandic pidgin was a language that we know about thanks to the Icelandic manuscritps AM 987 4to, containing two different Basque-Icelandic glossaries with a total of some 800 words and short phrases. At the end of the second of the glossaries, Vocabula Biscaica, there are a few sentances where the Basque entries are mixed with words from other languages, that is the pidgin language. However, this does not mean that all Basque entries in the glossaries are example of a Basque-Icelandic pidgin language. For example the word "harria" 'stone', which is mentioned in this article (entry II 53 in AM 987 4to, Deen p. 91), is simply the Basque equivilent for the Icelandic word "steinn" 'stone'. A much better example, which is also mentioned in the article is "for ju mala gissuna", where three different languages are mixed in the same sentance (English "for you", Romance "mala" and Basque "gizona"). I will try to edit the article, gathering clear examples of the pidgin language itself and removing the ones where it's simply a question of translations between everyday Basque and everyday Icelandic.
However, many of the Basque entries in the glossaries are indeed Spanish or French. To distinguish between Spanish/Frenchg influence on the Euskera in the glossaries and examples of Basque-Icelandic pidgin language is not always easy. Hualde has written an interesting article on foreign influence on Basque language (): http://www.tintaucsb.com/ojs/index.php/tinta/article/view/14/50
Another good article on the subject of the Basque-Icelandic glossaries (incl. information about the pidgin) is Miglio's: http://web.mac.com/skarphedinn/Violas_Site/Papers_files/shag-a-horse-J002.pdf
Best regards / Sappelle-gorre (talk) 14:27, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misunderstandings 

message: I'm not sure what "The Icelandic of the glossary" means (what does it mean?) but this is not like modern Icelandic. Still fairly understandable. At least modern Icelandc (ond old I think) would capitalize the beginning of a sentence. I see in an old version of this page icelandic word like strákur and ligar (for liar). Didn't look into much but guess changing the page was intentional. comp.arch (talk) 14:25, 7 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should there be Modern Icelandic column? 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified  on Basque–Icelandic pidgin. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120501170612/http://www.euskosare.org:80/euskara/basque_fishermen_iceland_bilingual_vocabularies_17_18_centuries to http://www.euskosare.org/euskara/basque_fishermen_iceland_bilingual_vocabularies_17_18_centuries
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120505121657/http://www.euskosare.org/komunitateak/ikertzaileak/ehmg/7/viola_miglio_and_ricardo_etxepare_-_a to http://www.euskosare.org/komunitateak/ikertzaileak/ehmg/7/viola_miglio_and_ricardo_etxepare_-_a
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20160304044557/http://www.tintaucsb.com/ojs/index.php/tinta/article/view/14/50 to http://www.tintaucsb.com/ojs/index.php/tinta/article/view/14/50
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at ).
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 04:25, 28 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on Basque–Icelandic pidgin. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20160304044557/http://www.tintaucsb.com/ojs/index.php/tinta/article/view/14/50 to http://www.tintaucsb.com/ojs/index.php/tinta/article/view/14/50
*Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.euskosare.org/euskara/basque_fishermen_iceland_bilingual_vocabularies_17_18_centuries
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 17:07, 15 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified