Talk:Munising, Michigan

message: In Michigan, as in most jurisdictions, cities are always autonomous jurisdictions within the state in which they are incorporated.  It's part of what it means to be a city.  They report to the state through the county or counties in which they are located, but the county has no jurisdiction over the city.
Conversely - in Michigan and like jurisdictions - counties do have jurisdiction over townships and charter townships, which are administrative subdivisions of the county.  And townships have jurisdiction over villages located within their boundaries. But townships never have juridiction over cities.
Milan, Michigan, for example, is partly in Washtenaw County and partly in Monroe County.  The city reports property taxes to the state through Ann Arbor for properties on the Washtenaw County side and through Monroe for properties on the Monroe County side - but neither county has any kind of direct jurisdiction over the city.  Conversely, the Charter Township of York - which, as a township, cannot cross county lines - reports its property taxes to the state through Ann Arbor; but, unlike the City of Milan, it is also subject to the jurisdiction of the Washtenaw County Board of Commissioners.  Similarly, the Village of Dexter reports its taxes to the state through Ann Arbor; is subject to the supervisory jurisdiction of Washtenaw County; and is subject to the supervisory jurisdiction of the two townships in which it is located.
So, the point is, there is no point to noting the City of Munising is autonomous from the Township of Munising - because, legally, the City of Munising is not located within the township.  It can't be, or it would not be a city.  It is, instead, adjacent to the northwest corner of Munising Township.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.126.3.38 (talk) 01:29, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You assume readers have a familiarity with peculiarities of Michigan municipalities, in which a city or a village might have the same name as the township, and yet the village is administratively part of the township while a city is not. In other parts of the world, the relation between townships and cities are different -- more like the city is the capital of the township. I don't agree that there is "no point" to noting that adjacent municipalities with the same name are administratively autonomous. older ≠ wiser 02:35, 15 October 2012 (UTC)
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