Talk:William Coley

message: This is historically interesting, but where are the references? I worry that it strikes the tone of Coleys toxins being a miracle cancer treatment which has been marginalised by the medical establishment. This would be quite wrong.
Many of the statements must be regarded as unsound eg:
"He found that surgery had been much more effective in the past, before the use of antiseptics when infection was a normal side effect of surgery." 
Complete nonsense, surely.
"For example, one surgeon in the 1770s purportedly cured six out of every seven patients." Purportedly? Please! 
"Coley also learned of the case of a patient at his own hospital seven years earlier, who had throat and tonsil cancer. After surgery, there was not much hope for him. Then he came down with erysipelas, a bacterial infection caused by Streptococcus pyogenes. His cancer disappeared, and Coley found that he was still alive, seven years later." 
Anecdote.
Anecdotal evidence but substantiated:  "During a review of the records of New York Hospital, Coley learned about a patient who, seven years previously, had had an inoperable malignant tumor in his neck that seemed to disappear after he developed erysipelas. The patient was discharged, apparently without evidence of a residual tumor. Coley personally searched for this patient by combing the tenements of Lower Manhattan. After weeks, he finally found the patient, a German immigrant named Stein, and he had no evidence of residual cancer. Mr. Stein's seemingly miraculous cure contrasted with Bessie Dashiell's rapid death and inspired Coley to scour the literature looking for other patients who had cancer remission due to a concurrent bacterial infection."  http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1888599/ Graywriter (talk) 03:47, 25 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  References and a bit of Rigour please 

message: Hello- I am an employee of the Cancer Research Institute.  As a non-profit organization founded on the premise of Dr. Coley's research, we believe CRI should have a Wikipedia page.  We would like to stay neutral and are requesting that someone who has interest in the field of immunology write the article.  We have biographical photos we may be able to provide for this page.  Also, I suggest using "A commotion in the blood" by Stephen S. Hall as a source for more information on Dr. Coley's research and the immunology field.  Thank you for your time - kfowler@cancerresearch.org.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.176.216.130 (talk) 21:21, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cancer Research Institute 

message: I have added new references to the overview section, but they do not seem to show up as separate entities even though they are from different journals.  Is this because Coley is the author of both?  I don't think they should both be referred to as reference number 1 when they are not the same...
-CancerResearchInstitute (talk) 17:41, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coley Overview References 

message: This source does not qualify for WP:MEDRS. I looked at the website, I cannot see what, if any, editorial control covers it. It looks like a newsletter, not a journal, and appears to be little better than letters to the editor. Does not deserve weight, especially to "correct" the mainstream understanding of the efficacy. Yobol (talk) 11:18, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. The problematic material (and more) was also at Paul Sanderson and The Emperor of All Maladies. Alexbrn talk|contribs|COI 22:20, 11 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  MJA InSight 

message: At  present (2018 February 13), the "Biography" section reads:
"He discovered that other medical pioneers including Robert Koch, Louis Pasteur, and Emil von Behring, had recorded observations of erysipelas infection coinciding with cancer regression."
This sentence was added on 27 January 2009 at 17:31 by "CancerResearchInstitute".
Unfortunately:
(1) There are no records of Pasteur, Koch, or von Behring having done research on erysipelas' association with cancer regression.
(2) There's no record of Pasteur having done any research on erysipelas.
(3) Koch merely provided Coley with cultures of erysipelas.
(4) Von Behring did research on the curative effects of serums, but he did not use erysipelas to treat cancer.
I would therefore recommend that the sentence that's quoted above be deleted as an unfounded claim.
VexorAbVikipædia (talk) 06:02, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coley & Pasteur & Koch & von Behring ??