Talk:United States and state terrorism/Archive 6

message: Some editors are deleting vast amounts of referenced material which has no Ganser references and claiming it is based on the Ganser discussion. Really folks, come on now. This is childish. How are you supposed to be accepted as an editor if you show yourself unable to read before you delete? Lord Seabhcán of Baloney 02:49, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Rather than make impotent accusations, if you believe that I'm a sockpuppet of another user, then go ahead and make your accusation formally through Wikipedia's process and request a Checkuser. I assure you that any such claim you might make would be without merit.  Please refrain from making these kinds of back-handed assaults on my character.  Morton DevonshireYo 06:00, 20 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Refrain from your attacks, I havent contested anything that has to do with Gladio and your bias is now showing that you automatically lump everyone who isnt bowing down in support as your opposition. Further calling others hostile while making accusations doesn't look very good and especially when calling someone a sock. If you have a claim to make take it to RFCU and stop attacking people here. I personally have been trying to help Seabhcan come up with alternatives that would appease everyone and allow Gladio to stay, again, stop your accusations, they do not help anything here. --NuclearZer0 13:53, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

text: WP:CON A concensus is important in building a working environment. However the point still stands, I was not against Gladio and would like an apology for your rant above that included my name. I think you should also take a step back and examine your last 2 edits on this talk page as you are behaving quite hostile. --NuclearZer0 14:59, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of non-Ganser material

message: I think the quote from NSC 10/2 is relevant to the article. I put it back in, with a source from the U.S. Department of State. See U.S. Department of State, Note on U.S. Covert Actions for background info.
The quote had been removed in this edit. Chrisahn 23:55, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The link cited does not mention terrorism. What would be needed is a notable person who says operations conducted under NSC 10/2 may constitute terrorism. Tom Harrison Talk 00:25, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I originally put NSC 10/2 in because Dr Ganser said just that. But of course, now that the wikipedia 'community' has flushed Ganser down the memory hole, NSC 10/2 is also now unmentionable. Lord Seabhcán of Baloney 01:45, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ganser seems pretty heavily cited to support our Gladio collection. And of course, if NSC 10/2 were unmentionable, I would not have been able to write about it here. Tom Harrison Talk 02:06, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The citation as last posted did not mention Gladio, and was relevant to the article.  Ganser is a respected academic from a military educational institute founded and administered by the Swiss government.  His specialty is research on intelligence agencies, covert operations, and the world's developing terrorist networks.  As far as credentials go, his are beyond dispute in this matter.  The citation that was removed was an explicit assertion that, through the CIA, the U.S. government sanctions and promotes activities that are widely regarded as terrorism.  There is just no reasonable justification for removing it. Stone put to sky 14:23, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NSC 10/2