Talk:Hainan

message: Does anyone else agree that we shoudl revert to the last edit of this page?  IT seems a lot of content was removed.  Was there a reason for this?  And the  "Welcome to hainan" line is un-encyclopaedic, IMHO.--Mishac 02:11, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. --Menchi 03:10, 17 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: 2004

message: The section on Geography notes that Hainan contains not only Hainan Island but also 200 islands of the South China Sea.
I think it needs to be made clear here that this is the claim made by the PRC, which is contested by a number of nations. I don't think that at this present stage the PRC claim is internationally recognised. --Anon
: Done. I just dragged the 2nd part of the sentence ("in the PRC territory") to be the 1st part of the sentence. Is that clearer? --Menchi 04:45, 24 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[South China Sea Islands]] 

message: I don't think it exists anymore. I went to Hainan (my relatives live there)a few years ago and there was a new airport built to replace the old one. I don't know if they still call it Meilan, I'm sure they changed it. The airport's south of Haikou in the countryside.
The airport is still called Meilan. It is in the countryside towards the east.Bathrobe 06:20, 6 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meilan Airport? 

message: Is this a real historical, regional or separatist flag of Hainan? -- Himasaram 02:53, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag of Hainan 

message: Don't some Yi people also live in Hainan?  Badagnani 10:04, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yi? 

message: How can an article on such a significant part of China lack pictures?? Manderiko (talk) 04:48, 3 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Tell me what you need and I will try to take some.--Anna Frodesiak (talk) 06:17, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: The table in that section appears confusing and doesn't seem to offer much useful information. I suggest swapping it for this image.--Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:57, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Colipon+(Talk) 02:06, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay. I changed it. The new map I just added seems incomplete. If anyone can fill in the blanks and needs the image without the red lines so they can move things about, please leave me a message on my talk page and I will upload it.--Anna Frodesiak (talk) 05:37, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subdivisions section 

message: Second to last paragraph states "...put Hainan's pursuit of provincial status under a cloud." I don't know what that means and the text is unsourced. Any suggestions?--Anna Frodesiak (talk) 12:23, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  History section 

message: The group number is 11934212,the group name is 巫溪海南CHARISMA. We welcome foreigners who are interested about Wuxi County and Hainan province or currently learning Chinese to enlist! We tutor you Chinese and make exchange with inhabitants of Wuxi and Hainan province. We give you lucid explanation of Mandarin and dialect of Chongqing. We offer lodger, tourism information of Wuxi and Hainan province and even lore. We also offer lurid details of Wuxi and Hainan news.
:I will remove the section. Please get consensus here for possibly adding it to external links. Best, Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:47, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "Lurid details ..." Sounds interesting :) Philg88 (talk) 07:42, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I came across the section a couple of weeks ago, and couldn't figured out if it was advertising. Good idea to remove it as it seems like its a promotional section for some firm to prop up their business. --Takamaxa (Talk) 07:21, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  English Chat QQ group of Wuxi County and Hainan 

message: *1 History
*2 Geography and environment
*:Location and area --> becomes leading paragraph
*:2.1 Topography
*:2.1.1 Rivers and lakes
*:2.2 Flora and fauna
*:2.3 Climate
*3 Demographics
*:3.1 Population
*:3.2 Languages
*4 Government
*:4.1 Politics
*:4.2 Administrative
*:4.3 Subdivisions
*:4.4 Military
*5 Economy
*:5.1 Economic and technological development zones
*:5.2 Natural resources
*:5.3 Agriculture
*:5.4 Commercial fishing --> rename to --> Fisheries
*:5.5 Real estate market
*6 Transportation
*:6.1 Road
*:6.2 Air
*:6.3 Rail
*:6.4 Seaports
*7 Culture
*8 Media
*9 Education
*10 Cuisine
*11 Tourism
*:11.1 Yachting
*:11.2 Historical sites
*:11.3 Other attractions and destinations
*:11.4 Statistics
*12 Miscellaneous topics
*12.1 Space centre
*22 Notable residents
*23 See also
*24 References
*25 Further reading
*26 External links
*Endorse --HXL's Roundtable and Record 00:31, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: (Others sections for future development could include: Protected areas and wildlife preserves, Health, Religion, Cost of living, and further expansion of content about new development on the island.) Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:32, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: PROPOSAL #1

message: I think they are really eye-catching, and visitors like them. Who cares if they repeat info in the article? They're supposed to. I encourage editors to lengthen the captions. I will too. Thoughts? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 10:54, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There are several criteria for a good caption. A good caption
*clearly identifies the subject of the picture, without detailing the obvious.
*is succinct.
*establishes the picture's relevance to the article.
*provides context for the picture.
*draws the reader into the article.
I'm thus trying to replace the current, obvious captions, and comply with above guidelines. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 11:28, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

text: Done. Please tweak, etc. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:32, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longer image captions 

message: Do we really need two? Is there a way around this? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:00, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two infoboxes 

message: It appears to be jammed into a little square box on the left hand side instead of a rectangle spanning the width of the page. Is this just my rendering? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:02, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Languages section cleanup template 

message: Some might be interested in seeing these sections:
*Protected areas and wildlife preserves
*Flora and fauna
Does anyone know a few park names, indigenous species, etc? List them here if you do, and I will make a lead sentence or two, and then the sections will be on their way. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:07, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ecovisitors 

message: It took me 20 seconds to figure it out. First-time visitors won't ever figure it out. I think using the extra white space available to add additional frames of reference, and maybe words like "South China Sea" in blue would be good.Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:20, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subdivisions image #19 

message: We need a section called Industry, as there is still no mention of:
*Jinhai Pulp Mill in Yangpu Economic Development Zone
*Changjiang Nuclear Power Plant
*That huge coal electric plant in Yangpu Economic Development Zone
*The petroleum something or other plant.
Add anything you have to the list, and I will start it. Or you start it. Either or.
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 15:27, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economy/industry 

message: hey,guys. I've checked the information about Hainan railways and it was clearly out of date. So I updated it with new information within the rail section. If there is any incorrect information, please let me know.Anyang umich (talk) 04:04, 11 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update for Rail section 

message: Recently, these new categories were created:
*:Category:Hainan Province
*:Category:Geography of Hainan Province
*:Category:Islands of Hainan Province
*:Category:Rivers of Hainan Island
*:Category:Bays of Hainan Island
*:Category:Peninsulas of Hainan Island
Currently "Hainan" refers to both the province and the island. These newly created cats may not be needed.
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 14:18, 21 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possibly unneeded categories 

message: We would like opinions on whether or not we should have two sets of categories and articles for Hainan Province and Hainan Island.
*Oppose – Anna Frodesiak (talk) 02:46, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Separate articles and categories for Hainan Island and Hainan Province

message: Here are a couple of threads related to this, which I hope can be continued here:
*User talk:Graeme Bartlett#How come a category gets deleted without discussion?
*User talk:Graeme Bartlett#Hainan-related cats
Anna Frodesiak (talk) 04:27, 26 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hainan Province vs. Hainan Island: other discussions 

message: When Huayu-Huayu's block is over, it's possible that he will start changing Hainan-related articles again. It would be nice to have consensus on a few conventions to cite. Please agree/disagree/comment under each item. (I hope it's okay to squeeze in opinions under each item. It's fine by me.)
The issues:
1) Hainan Province vs. Hainan province
::I'm for the former, as it seems that all country articles use this, except for Provinces of Vietnam. It's proper, so should be upper case.
2) "Hainan Island"
::It exists, so is proper, and so should be upper case.
3) "...island of Hainan"
::Not proper, so lower case. I support starting to use the term "...main island of Hainan..." where disambiguation is needed.
4) "Hainan Province" vs. "Hainan Province", and "Hainan Island" vs. "Hainan Island"
::No pipe. We shouldn't confuse visitors by implying there's an article named Hainan XXX. "Hainan Province" delivers facts: that Wikipedia uses the term "Hainan" to refer to the province, and uses that term as the article title.
5) "Hainan Province" vs. "Hainan Province", and "Hainan Island" vs. "Hainan Island"
::This is an easy one. Always Hainan XXX. We shouldn't link to a redirect. We shouldn't confuse visitors by implying there's an article named Hainan XXX.
6) What do we do in cases like at the end of this paragraph? Should change it to Hainan Island, or Hainan Province, or "...the island province of Hainan..." or what? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 08:59, 27 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linking and formatting in Hainan-related articles 

message: I have replaced the map featuring China's nine-dotted line, a signal of Chinese hegemony over the common sea of the world, which is illegal to be linked to articles of Wikipedia.--Vietlong (talk) 16:53, 3 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not an "illegal" map. It's y from a Viet perspective, but the Chinese can likewise call maps without their claims biased as well. I'd imagine Wikipedia's consensus would favor America's policy of not recognizing the Chinese claims but it might be accepted to use Chinese maps of Chinese claims for Chinese articles. Not sure. — LlywelynII 00:19, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Attention to everybody: China's nine-dotted line

message: I wonder if Hainan might be a candidate for the original and legendary Hawaii, from which the polynesians claim they come? Is there any evidence in the archaeology to suggest polynesian inhabitants: stepped adzes and so on?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.169.39.254 (talk) 10:31, 7 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archaeology of Hainan? 

message: According to several comments at , the map of "Maritime claims of South China Sea" is incorrect (as well the map colours confusingly not matching the key). Should it be deleted? 86.171.174.107 (talk) 03:16, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect map? 

message: Please see the Commons debate. Many thanks. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 00:06, 4 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  City Emblem of Haikou 

message: Daner Commandery and Zhuai Commandery should probably be spun off into entirely separate articles, but
* .
has more details on them, including census returns and early records that Zhuai had to be abandoned not from "cost" but because the locals revolted owing to officials cutting off their attractive hair to make wigs for themselves.
In the same book,
* .
reports that the identification of Han's Daner Commandery with Hainan's present Dan County is commonplace but not actually proven in the historical record, possibly having originally described ear-stretching people on the mainland. — LlywelynII 00:14, 25 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources for article expansion

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
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*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20111001102416/http://unn.people.com.cn/GB/13627264.html to http://unn.people.com.cn/GB/13627264.html
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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: were there any Governors and Secretaries of the CPC from national minority in this province?--Kaiyr (talk) 19:34, 25 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Governors of province 

message: This article is missing many citations.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Juicebaby (talk • contribs) 07:45, 20 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: Where the heck is it? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 03:09, 12 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate table 

message: In the section listing locations that have partnerships with Hainan, Crimea is listed as a province of Ukraine. Due to the reality of the situation on the ground, it might be good to include a note that Crimea is currently occupied/administered by Russia. Of course, due to this change in administration, I am not sure whether the relationship between Crimea and Hainan still exists.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.17.249 (talk) 20:46, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  sister provinces/partnership regions minor issue 

message: I removed unsourced content from 2013. Can anyone find sources to show river lengths? Anna Frodesiak (talk) 18:50, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  River lengths 

message: Hi User:RGloucester, and others. Can we make this clearer? Cheers. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 20:25, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it has been dealt with satisfactorily by subsequent edits. RGloucester  — ☎ 21:55, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems much better. Cheers. Anna Frodesiak (talk) 01:11, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Somewhat confusing edit 

message: Needs treatment and sourcing for the former name "Dan'er". — LlywelynII 13:06, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Dan'er

message: The General Secretary listed as current (Liu Cigui) retired.  The real current one is Shen Xiaoming, ex-Governor, listed as current.
In turn, Feng Fei (冯飞) became the new Governor.  
All data is available on Baidu Wiki and Chinese government websites. 
It will be necessary to briefly edit Feng's, Shen's and Liu's pages as well finding out year or their new posting + Liu's retirement.  
I will do it in a few days if nobody else can, consider this just a notification before an edit. Dupengfei108 (talk) 15:52, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent changes of Governor and General Secretary