Wikipedia talk:WikiProject National Football League/Pittsburgh Steelers subproject

message: On the page for the 2007 Pittsburgh Steelers season there is information about the Steelers recently selected 75th Anniversary All-Time Team. Does this team deserve its own page? Blackngold29 (talk) 23:11, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was wondering the same thing, as it isn't necessarily something that belongs to only the 2007 season. Fruminous (talk) 23:19, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just noticed that the All-Time Team has its own section within the Pittsburgh Steelers main article, perhaps the one in the 2007 season should simply be deleted. Though I still think having its own article would be good. Blackngold29 (talk) 20:47, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the All-Time Team section from the 2007 season article. It remains on the main team article.Blackngold29 (talk) 05:55, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Articles have been created for the current Pittsburgh Steelers All-Time Team as well as an earlier incarnation of the squad (Pittsburgh Steelers All-Time Team (50th Season)) and the pre-1970s Pittsburgh Steelers Legends team.— DeeJayK (talk) 22:29, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does the All-Time Team deserve own article? 

message: Hi everyone-
I'd like to suggest that we start listing what content that we could include on the season pages. Once we have a list that's acceptable to us, we can begin prioritizing what content to get on the season pages. I'll get the ball rolling on some ideas. Feel free to add as you see fit:
Fruminous (talk) 06:08, 7 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Season Page Template Content Brainstorm 

message: Hi all!-
I've created a user template for our subproject. You can find it on the main page.
Fruminous (talk) 06:44, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Subproject User Template

message: Sadly, Myron Cope passed away this morning. I added him to the project, as he is very much a part of Steelers culture. If anyone has a problem with this you can discuss it here. Thank You. Blackngold29 (talk) 14:56, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds great I'll see what I can do on the 1978 season. NFL.com has the leading passer, reciever, and rusher for every game. Perhaps those could be added. Under the Steelers schedule, pick the year. I think they go back to 1970. Blackngold29 (talk) 21:52, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

text: I have PDFs of every NFL game, with scoring drives and game summaries back to 1922. Some of their detail is more in-depth than what's on NFL.com. I've been able to convert all of them to text. We could figure out a way that I could get them to you , if you'd like.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Fruminous (talk • contribs) 07:12, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myron Cope 

message: There is currently only one roster for the Steelers, which is the current roster. I think that we should start making one for each season, as has been done here (as much as I hate saying the Patriots have something better than we do). I'll start working on this in the next few days, anyone who would like to help would be much appreciated. Just say so here and I'll get back to you. We should do the same thing with the staff, but only one per season. Thanks. Blackngold29 (talk) 18:24, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Roster

message: After creating many season schedule summaries for individual season articles, there have been users (usually unregistered) who have added an indiviual date (usually that of Sunday) to the bye week. I don't think that bye weeks should be a given a date, as not all games are played on Sunday. Is there a "view" of the project on this matter? I would appreciate knowing one way or the other, so I can either add the date in the future, or report those who add the date for vandalism. I have posted this same messege over on the NFL WikiProject's talk page and have recieved no replies, perhaps this can be our policy if one does not exist there, I would like to know one way or the other, because it is getting quite annoying. Thank You. Blackngold29 (talk) 00:01, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My feeling is that we should note the bye week in your schedule table, but not in the season sections. It's just unnecessarily used space, otherwise. The numbering of weeks in the game sections should conform to the NFL schedule and not the Xth game that the Steelers played. Sorry that I didn't catch this note sooner. Fruminous (talk) 04:52, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I agree, but I was more concerned as to whether or not we should have a date in the schedule table. What are your thoughts on that? A few guys over at the NFL Project agreed with me that we should not include it. Blackngold29 (talk) 04:55, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah -- good catch here. Actually, that's the way that I originally wanted to set up the pages (No days of week in the tables. Days of week in game sections.) but the mystery author kept adding them to the tables. I finally decided to let him have his way for the time being while I worked on other things. I'm for changing them back to the way that you want them. Fruminous (talk) 04:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I would assume that since there is no discussion about it we could delete all of the dates, referencing this conversation and/or the one over in the NFL Project discussion page. If the mystery author continues to re-add them without giving a good reason in the argument, then he could be reported for vandalism. Blackngold29 (talk) 05:08, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me. He has heeded other requests that I have sent about formatting his work. I'm sure that he'll be amenable to this one. Fruminous (talk) 05:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Hey -- I removed the days of the week from the tables on the 1978 page. Let me know if I'm on the same page as you before I go off and do something stupid. ;-) Fruminous (talk) 05:18, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Wow stop, I'm talking about "dates" as in: March 20, 2008 not "days of the week". I put the days in. Here's an example: 2005 Pittsburgh Steelers season#Regular season. See how he put "Sunday October 2" in the bye week? It shouldn't be there because it's a bye week not a bye day. Understand? Blackngold29 (talk) 05:24, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bye Week / Date 

message: I have moved the revision to this page. After the Steelers page is done being worked on we can move onto another article to revise, you can nominate a canidate on the discussion page. Thank you! Blackngold29 02:20, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there anyone who would like to help with the revision? I was thinking of re-writing it from the ground up (using the existing article as much a I can obviously), but I don't want to do it alone; as it will take a very long time. If I could get anyone else to help, I would gladly start soon. Blackngold29 20:36, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Pittsburgh Steelers]] revision 

message: I had an idea to start a WikiProject with a concentration on the sports of Pittsburgh, it would be a sub-project of the Pittsburgh's WikiProject. I was originally planning on working in conjunction with this project, but it seems that participation in this project has dwindled of late, therefore I don't think it would be a bad idea to merge this project into the new one. The Steelers would remain a large part (probably the largest) of the new project. A basic outline of my idea can be found here. Any ideas that you might have would be appreciated. Thank You! Blackngold29 05:26, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pittsburgh Sports WP 

message: I've been adding quite a bit to the 2008 Pittsburgh Steelers season article, and have been thinking of different ways to make it look better. This is what I was thinking as to the style of the recaps for each game: I have removed the date from the heading, because it was simply not necessary and made the titles look over-powering with so much info (It can also be found at the schedule box at the top of the page). I've put the basic recap info into two columns; using only one left empty space that we can easily fill by adding the columns. I added a link to the NFL.com recap. If it were up to me, I would eliminate the "TV Announcers" because I don't really think it is notable info, it has no effect on the game, and I honestly don't care that Solomon Wilcots announced the game for CBS during the sixth week, do you? 
===Week 1: Houston Texans===
at Heinz Field, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
* Game time: 1:00 PM EDT
* Game weather: TBD
* Referee: TBA
* Game attendance: TBA
* TV announcers: (CBS) TBA
* NFL.com recap: Steelers Win!
And then the prose recap would obviously go here. A lot of the other leagues are using this style of recap for games. Which I like, because all the scoring drives could be added, but also be hidden until they are needed, which saves space. Unfortunately, I'm not very good with figuring out how to alter templates like that to match our needs, but I'd gladly work with someone who does to develop one. All questions, comments, and suggestions are welcome!! Thanks! Blackngold29 00:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I will soon be developing an template with Sukh17‎. If anyone would like to help let me know. I have ideas, but he knows how to make it happen, he's done good work in the past. Thanks! Blackngold29 02:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Haha, yeah. That'll take a while. This was what I thought for the outcome of the new template: Blackngold29 03:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weekly game recaps 

message: at Heinz Field, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
* Game time: 1:00 PM EDT
* Game weather: TBD
* Referee: TBA
* Game attendance: TBA
* TV announcers: (CBS) TBA
* NFL.com recap: Steelers Win!
And then the prose recap would obviously go here. A lot of the other leagues are using this style of recap for games. Which I like, because all the scoring drives could be added, but also be hidden until they are needed, which saves space. Unfortunately, I'm not very good with figuring out how to alter templates like that to match our needs, but I'd gladly work with someone who does to develop one. All questions, comments, and suggestions are welcome!! Thanks! Blackngold29 00:11, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I will soon be developing an template with Sukh17‎. If anyone would like to help let me know. I have ideas, but he knows how to make it happen, he's done good work in the past. Thanks! Blackngold29 02:51, 10 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Haha, yeah. That'll take a while. This was what I thought for the outcome of the new template: Blackngold29 03:54, 10 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Week 1: [[Houston Texans]]

message: Hey guys, I just spent the past three day completely re-writing the Terrible Towel article. It is now up for Peer Review: leave your comments here. Thanks! Blackngold29 19:24, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Terrible Towel (A Pittsburgh Original) 

message: I am planning on completely overhauling the Heinz Field article. If you would like to help in any way, you can either leave a messege on my talk page; or just jump right in (but I warn you it might be messy for a while). Thank you. Blackngold29 01:22, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is complete. I did nothing on it for months, but had nothing to do and wrote the entire thing today. Check it out! Blackngold29 07:09, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heinz Field overhaul 

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message: Hi, I was wondering how I could be a part of the Wikiproject for the Pittsburgh Steelers because I pretty much know everything about their history etc...you know, but yeah hit me up soon please!
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thread_title:  Big Pittsburgh Steelers Fan!!! 

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message: To my shock, he doesn't have an article, does he meet the standards of WP:NOTABLE to you? I think he does, I'm going to start an article on him, is that o.k with the project? SteelersFan-94 06:19, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would think he does. I would recomend finding as many articles or books that mention him as you can before creating the article because even if he's borderline notable, a well-written, well-cited article probably would not be proposed for deletion. With the way the sale of the team is going it would seem he's a pretty sure bet to be the owner after Dan, which I would think would remove all doubt of notability. Blackngold29 17:22, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, I'll create a sandbox and work on it. SteelersFan-94 19:25, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've created a stub for Art II, please take a look and expand.  Now that he's a part-owner of the Steelers, I don't think notability will be an issue, as long as we come correct with the article.--Deejayk (talk) 18:28, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Art Rooney II,  

message: The Super Bowl ring article lists Dan Rooney, Joe Greene and Chuck Noll as having six SB rings.  However, this article on the Steelers website says there are four Steelers staff members who will have six rings.  Does anyone know who the fourth is?  My best guess would be Art Rooney, Jr., but I don't know for sure.--Deejayk (talk) 22:00, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've uncovered a bit more info, but no definitive answer.  Art Rooney, Jr's website for his book has a photo of his five SB rings -- since he's a part owner and VP I assume he'll get a sixth.  So is there anyone else who is in line to get a sixth ring?--Deejayk (talk) 23:06, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Okay, I'm willing to add Bill Nunn to the list — I hadn't realized he was still on staff, but he is listed as a scout on the Steelers website.  This makes me question what is meant by "only four Steelers staff members who will be the proud owner of six rings" (emphasis mine) from the the article linked above.  I know (from the article) that Joe Greene is one of the four.  I also know that Chuck Noll should be another.  Since we're adding Bill Nunn to the list, that only leaves one more spot.  I know that Dan Rooney has earned six rings and I assume that Art Rooney, Jr. has as well.  So that makes me wonder if there is a distinction being made in that article between the Rooney family and "staff members".  If that is the case, then we're still missing one "staff member."  Any ideas?--Deejayk (talk) 23:55, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Individuals with 6 Super Bowl rings 

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message: Should Terrible Towel be moved to its correct, official name The Terrible Towel?  I think so.  Voice your opinion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion#The Terrible Towel--GrapedApe (talk) 03:28, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
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message: Currently, and for quite some time, all Pittsburgh sports venues have succession boxes that allow the reader to trace the occupation of each venue by each Pittsburgh pro or college team. Recently, some of these have been removed, particularly Pitt's basketball venues, breaking the consistency across the Pittsburgh sports landscape for this navigation, particularly disrupting shared venues such as Fitzgerald Field House (Pitt, Duquesne) and Pitt Stadium (Steelers, Pitt). Previous discussions of similar issues occurred at Forbes Field's talk page. Please comment on the continued inclusion or exclusion of these succession boxes at Talk:Pitt Stadium. Thank you. CrazyPaco (talk) 12:09, 20 November 2013 (UTC)
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