Talk:Hogwarts houses

message: Hogwarts founders was merged and redirected to this article, this is the old version of that article's talk page.
We should separate the four houses onto their own pages.
:Why create additional articles when there is so little information for each house? Seeing that the four houses form a very specific group, having them on a single page and redirecting queries for "Gryffindor", "Hufflepuff", "Ravenclaw" or "Slytherin" to this article does no harm. It even seems more efficient, as one can compare the houses instantly. Sinistro 21:09, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

message: Currently, the description is, "Ravenclaw values intelligence, knowledge, wit, and beauty." The book has never mentioned that Ravenclaws valued beauty. Flitwick (when he was young), Cho Chang, and Rowena Ravenclaw herself were mentioned to be good looking, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the house values "beauty." Therefore, I'm going to replace it with the word "wisdom" as the sorting hat described the Ravenclaw house as "wise."
Airox 02:17, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ravenclaw Description 

message: I disagree with the merge as both articles are of a good size. What does everybody else think? --bjwebb 19:11, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I also disagree. I think this article is quite capable of standing on its own, and we also don't want to make the Hogwarts article so massive that nobody would want to read it.--Zequist 19:21, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you. The Hogwarts article is long enough! --Urbane legend 15:23, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There's quite a buttlolot of Harry Potter subtopics already, and this would seem to be the most effective execution. --Kizor 18:21, 24 July 2005 (UTC)

text: I don't think the two articles should be merged. This article is of a good size and will require substantial haemorrhaging of worthy material in order to fit it in without making Hogwarts too big. --Sanguinus 17:45, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested Merge 

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thread_title:  Note to anyone intending on splitting off a section 

message: I would disagree that the sorting hat has a preference with regard to which house Harry Potter should have been sorted into. The hat declares Harry difficult to sort, and it is influenced by Harry's not wanting to be sorted into Slytherin. Is there text from any of the six books that show that the sorting hat itself wanted Harry to be sorted into Slytherin? The first book merely indicated that the hat reasoned with Harry about the advantages of Slytherin. It does so because Harry has strongly thought against Slytherin in particular. My read on this is that the sorting hat did not prefer Harry to be sorted into Slytherin: it sorts on the basis of an impartial evaluation of the qualities of each first year student. I would like to hear arguments pro and con on this. If I am ignoring documented proof, I would like to be enlightened.
The factors that would lean toward sorting Harry into Slytherin would be 1) his link with Voldemort through his being spared death at the latter's hands, and 2) his ability to speak "parcel tongue," the sibilant, serpent language, so apropos to the heraldic symbol of the snake. I would welcome discussion on this matter. drboisclair 20:42, 2 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I havn't checked this myself, but an item i was reading suggested that in most cases the hat sems to go along with the students, when they already have a firm idea of where they want to go. It seems to argue to make sure they know what they want. But it only has to make a choice when the student is unsure. Sandpiper 22:39, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that you have the correct idea. I failed to mention the interchange Harry had with the sorting hat in Chamber of Secrets: There it is brought out that the sorting hat would have put Harry into Slytherin if he had not had the strong desire against it. drboisclair 21:16, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In the seventh book, Dumbledore states to Snape that a part of Voldemort's soul latched itself onto Harry the day the  day the former tried to kill the latter. Therefore, Harry was the seventh Horcrux. The part of Voldemort's soul inside Harry would, of course, have had an influence on the Sorting Hat. Chakrachakra 18:21, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Sorting Hat's preferences if any 

message: The Ravenclaw section states that "In the movie Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire, Padma was in Gryffindor".  I'm not too sure about this, it's noted on some fan forums that some houses are mixed in many classes (which is why Draco and Harry both attend the Care of Magical Creatures class in Prisoner of Azkaban).  Is there anything specific that points to Padma's house in the movie, aside from being in a class with Gryffindors? - UglinessMan 08:36, 10 February 2006
:This is because in the books Padma Patil is in Ravenclaw house and her identicle twin sister Parvati Patil is in Gryffindor house, however in the film of GoF the two appear in a scene together in the Gryffindor common room when Harry ask's them both to attend the Yule Ball with Ron and himself. Seeing as the only people allowed in the House Common rooms are members of that house, this would suggest that either this particular rule has been conveniently overlooked or for the purposes of the films she is now going to be incorrectly shown as a gryffindor.   Death Eater Dan    16:47, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't believe that's sufficient evidence.  Any person in a house could easily allow other people into the commons.  Considering this is immediately prior to the Yule Ball, it is entirely plausible that Padma Patil was simply with her sister while getting dressed up... or looking for a date.  (What's implausible is that they didn't have dates already...).  Anyhow, considering the evidence is insufficient for the conclusion, I'm going to remove the comment. --Obsidian-fox 07:52, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Padma 

message: Should Phineas Nigellus's quote from OoTP (which I'll post in a moment), or the information it contains about Slytherins, be added? Or do you find it unneccessary? 
"We Slytherins are brave, yes, but not stupid. For instance, when given the choice, we will always choose to save our own necks."
(This possible trait of Slytherins could also apply to Snape at the end of HBP...) 
Please respond! Emily 23:47, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Harry's mother was a muggle-born. As has repeatedly been stated, 'half-blood' means the child of a muggleborn and another wizard/witch, as well as a child of a muggle and a witch/wizard. Michaelsanders 17:43, 22 January 2007 (UTC)

text: He says, on page 80 of my version (in the chapter Diagon Alley), "There's not a single witch or wizard went bad who wasn't in Slytherin."
Along the same vein, I think this article is too apologetic about Slytherin. It says that Harry describes most Slytherins as bullying, haughty, or evil, but it's not Harry doing the describing, it's Rowling! It's hardly speculation that Slytherin is, generally speaking, the "bad" house. As far as the books tell us, every single one of Voldemort's supporters, except Peter Pettigrew, were in Slytherin. Almost every Slytherin character is portrayed negatively (again, not by Harry, but by Rowling). Obviously there are exceptions, but even the supposedly good Slytherins aren't entirely likeable. Snape, for example, despite his redeeming qualities, is pretty brutal towards students he doesn't like, and Slughorn is pretty much a straight-up coward. It's also worth noting that Dumbledore implies, after the adult Snape shows his good qualities, might have belonged better in Gryffindor; this shows that, at least according to Dumbledore, cowardice is a Slytherin trait. Of course every house has good and bad qualities—Gryffindors are brave but sometimes arrogant; Hufflepuffs are loyal and hard-working but sometimes dim-witted; Ravenclaws are smart but sometimes aloof. In the case of Slytherin, however, the bad qualities are so bad that they really outweigh the ones that could be construed as good. Slytherins are ambitious but sometimes evil. They're not being unfairly stereotyped as the article claims. Rowling herself describes them that way. Ebolamunkee (talk) 05:58, 19 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slytherin 

message: It appears we have another case of Wikipedians playing edit ping-pong, so once again allow me to step in and attempt to clarify.  The Harry Potter movies all have plot points that are different from the books.  In the first book, Neville was with Harry and Hermione when they got caught out of bed after hours... in this case, Harry and Hermione were helping Norbert the dragon get sent to Romania covertly, several nights after Hagrid told them about the dragon (Hagrid never got in trouble for having the dragon because Malfoy didn't get the chance to snitch).  In the movie, the core trio got in trouble for being out of bed after hours on the same night that Hagrid told them about the dragon.  The point is, whenever the book and the movie differentiate, the book always takes precident as true canon, and this incident in the article is using the book as a source.  However, because about a zillion people who saw the movie never even glanced at the book, they think that they're making a "correction" by changing Neville to Ron in the article.  It's not a correction, it's a misunderstanding.  Please stop changing it.
Also, there's no specific need to use the American title of the book and then put the original title in parentheses as if it was a minor piece of trivia.  The Philosopher's Stone is the original source text. - Ugliness Man 11:23, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  McGonagall's wrath 

message: This article was moved back on 26 July from Hogwarts Houses to Hogwarts houses. I believe the word 'House' is capitalized in the books. Just want to get a little consensus before I move it back. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 19:14, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title 

message: Why is the slytherin section of the artical written so biasedly?Harry has an "evil slytherin" point of view because he is in their rival house.The article should acknowledge that the reason slytherin has their evil image is because the book's main character despises them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.245.15.50 (talk) 01:22, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's more than the main character with a bias. Pretty much everyone hates the Slytherins, and are supposed to. Jstohler (talk) 19:23, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree; I think the article is too apologetic about Slytherin. It says that Harry describes most Slytherins as bullying, haughty, or evil, but it's not Harry doing the describing, it's Rowling! It's hardly speculation that Slytherin is, generally speaking, the "bad" house. As far as the books tell us, every single one of Voldemort's supporters, except Peter Pettigrew, were in Slytherin. Almost every Slytherin character is portrayed negatively (again, not by Harry, but by Rowling). Obviously there are exceptions, but even the supposedly good Slytherins aren't entirely likeable. Snape, for example, despite his redeeming qualities, is pretty brutal towards students he doesn't like, and Slughorn is pretty much a straight-up coward. It's also worth noting that Dumbledore implies, after the adult Snape shows his good qualities, might have belonged better in Gryffindor; this shows that, at least according to Dumbledore, cowardice is a Slytherin trait. Of course every house has good and bad qualities—Gryffindors are brave but sometimes arrogant; Hufflepuffs are loyal and hard-working but sometimes dim-witted; Ravenclaws are smart but sometimes aloof. In the case of Slytherin, however, the bad qualities are so bad that they really outweigh the ones that could be construed as good. Slytherins are ambitious but sometimes evil. They're not being unfairly stereotyped as the article claims. Rowling herself describes them that way.71.193.240.102 (talk) 04:30, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slytherin bias 

message: Can anyone confirm that Dumbledore was (in fact) from Griffindor? If not then he should not be mentioned under notable Griffindors. Zain Ebrahim 10:36, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dumbledore's house 

message: i think we should split Cory Donald (wizard) 09:57, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But why? The length of this article is perfectly fine per WP:LENGTH, and there's not much material we might add to each house. We'd better keep the information clear and concise as it currently is. PeaceNT 15:58, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  split 

message: The assertion that Rowling has said Slytherin House corresponds to the water element was marked citation needed, but that is the reason, as far as I can tell, that the interview link at the bottom is to page 3 of the 3-page interview: the house/element correspondences are on that page. I would put the cite in the paragraph in question but all four house sections have similar element correspondences noted, and I don't think it makes sense to add the cite four times. I welcome any guidance on the style question of how and where to cite this.140.247.37.169 18:23, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, forgot to log in, that's me above. Claudia 18:24, 9 May 2007 (UTC)

text: The Slytherin common room is a long, low underground room (probably under the Hogwarts lake, corresponding with Slytherin house's affiliation with water)
(bolding mine for emphasis). Is there any reason for this speculation? Any possible canon source? I'm gonna put an in-cite for this, unless somebody's got some more info... --Umrguy42 19:00, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Doesn't Harry say in DH that the commonroom is under the lake (to the Snatchers)? THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 22:31, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, he does say that, to the Snatchers. - Redmess (talk) 20:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I know it's said to the Snatchers in DH, it is probably also mentioned in CoS when H and R are in the Slytherin  common room. If you give me 1 minutes ill find the exact line if its needed сʜʌɴɒʟєʀ ♠ тʌʟκ 20:55, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: DH, ch 23 (Malfoy Manor) page 365: ‘it's in the dungeons,’ said Harry clearly. ‘You enter through the wall. It's full of skulls and stuff and it's under the lake, so the light's all green.’ сʜʌɴɒʟєʀ ♠ тʌʟκ 21:02, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slytherin=water 

message: This section seems to be based upon a fundamental misreading of the text. As Harry plays dead and Neville is preparing to kill Nagini, many students suddenly begin attacking the Death Eaters again after Voldemort had thought he'd won the battle. This was because the Slytherin students -- who had faked defecting to Voldemort's side -- betrayed the Death Eaters and joined the other houses in combat. Slytherin did not not join in the battle. -- Anonymous  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.123.57.26 (talk) 10:53, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Slytherin's Battle of Hogwarts Contribution

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message: In the Salazar Slytherin Article it say's that the Basilisk which resides in the chamber of secrets was magically created. What is the basis for this statement?
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thread_title:  Magically Created Basilisk? 

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message: "Rowena Ravenclaw and Helga Hufflepuff, however, once great friends, are documented as having had a severe falling out at some point by the Sorting Hat's song in Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix".
Is this confirmed in the actual book?
"But then discord crept among us
Feeding on all our faults and fears.
The Houses that, like pillars four
Had once held up our school
Now turned upon eachother and
Divided, sought to rule.
And for a while it seemed the school
Must meet an early end.
What with dueling and with fighting
And the clash of friend on friend.
And at last there came a morning
When old Slytherin departed
And though the fighting then died out,
He left us quite down-hearted."
It is not mentioned in this section (the Sorting Hat's song in OotP) what the source of discord was. It could have been just Slytherin against the other three, it could have been all four of them against each other... I think the above statement is not valid.
Kumorifox (talk) 20:06, 26 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It is already isn't it? Jammy (talk) 16:47, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hufflepuff/Ravenclaw feud? 

message: According to the Notability discussion in the WikiProject HP, the Hogwarts houses article has not meet outside notability. The proposal then is to merge a trimmed version of this article into the main Hogwarts article. I was particularily think in moving only the four houses themselves. The founders and the ghosts can be moved to the Hogwarts staff article. To avoid the Staff article getting too large, we can maybe move Umbridge to the Ministry officials list, and Firenze to Magical creatures. Thoughts? --Lord Opeth (talk) 17:13, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As it passed three days and there were no opinions against the merge, the Houses were moved to Hogwarts, and the founders and ghosts into Hogwarts staff.--Lord Opeth (talk) 00:59, 27 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal