Talk:The Sweet

message: This band does have a website somewhere with all this information, yes?  Wikipedia is supposed to provide a comprehensive summary of the band and their music, not everything that is known about them.  Most of this information needs to go.  I love the Sweet but this is way too much information.  Definitely tldr. Rissa, Guild of Copy Editors  (talk) 05:27, 6 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article needs editing 

message: I added a line for Gimme Dat Ding (album) in the discography, and another editor rolled it back, with an edit summary of "not a proper Sweet album". Fine, so let's talk about this.
Gimme Dat Ding (album) is a split album -- one side is Pipkins songs, the other other is Sweet songs. According to the Gimme Dat Ding (album) article lede: "Gimme Dat Ding is a split album by The Sweet (side one) and The Pipkins (side two), released on EMI's budget record label, MFP (Music For Pleasure) in 1970. It is named after the 1970 song "Gimme Dat Ding" by the Pipkins. Side one was given over to (then) fledgling pop band the Sweet and features the A and B-sides of what were three commercially unsuccessful singles (on Parlophone Records) before the band finally found fame with "Funny Funny" released by RCA Records..."
So, one interpretation of "not a proper Sweet album" could be either something like "The Sweet does not actually appear on this album, that article is wrong" or "It's a different band that happens to also be called The Sweet". Neither of these seem likely although I'm willing to hear more.
Another interpretation of "not a proper Sweet album" is "Well, it's a Sweet album, but it's not a proper Sweet album in that it's just a collection of some singles, not an real album put together as such with a bunch of songs designed to work together as an album, and produced with at least partial input from the band itself or its designated agent" or something. 
I mean yeah, I get it, but I don't see that as as strong argument.  Looking for instance at Gliding Bird, that article says "Though technically Harris' first album, she subsequently disowned the record and regards 1975's Pieces of the Sky as her first 'official' album". And it was released six years before her second album, she was pretty young (22), she may not have had all that much creative control, it's not really like her later work... nevertheless we do include it in her discography, and properly so IMO. Katy Hudson (album) is included in Katy Perry discography even though it was released under her real name, was released seven years before her second album, and is quite different from her later work (it is Christian rock/contemporary Christian music album). And so forth. All of these give some insight into the arc of the artist's public career.
I think we want to be pretty conservative about going down the road toward "I don't like this album, so let's not include it in the discography".
As to the "it's just a collection of some singles" argument (if that is what is meant), The Sun Sessions is just a collection of some singles never intended to be part of a cohesive album, and so are all "Greatest Hits" and "Best Of" albums I guess. So? They're still considered albums and are still listed in discographies. Including them provides useful data.
Another interpretation of "not a proper Sweet album" is "Well but it was not a complete album of just The Sweet; they shared it with another band". But I mean so what? It's still 1) and album which 2) contains hella Sweet material. If it was just one song in a compilation album then that album could be listed separately or maybe omitted. But the album is half Sweet. If you can't include in The Sweet's discography you can't include it in the Pipkins' discography either, and it'd be like the album doesn't exist. But it does.
Ultimately, I'd like to hear the answer to this: "Gimme Dat Ding (album) is an album of which one-half is by the Sweet and it collected their early singles, but we must not tell the reader about the existence of this album, and it will enhance her experience to not know about this album, because _________". What goes in the blank? Herostratus (talk) 22:47, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gimmie Dat Ding 

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message: I couldn't find a reference to where the current lineup is from. What's on their website does not match what's on wikipedia: https://sweet.thesweetweb.com/line-ups/ Quadrow (talk) 17:30, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lineup