Talk:Ryan Moats

message: We have a Texas-based anonymous editor, 70.128.85.90, who's removing any reference to the recent incident that has caused an uproar involving Ryan Moats being blocked from seeing his dying relative.  The removed material is factual and referenced.  Editor has provided no coherent reason (beyond vague "racism" charges in edit comments) for this constant removal.  Just FYI. A2Kafir (and...?) 21:59, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've also reverted the IP. Unless he has a valid reason and can bring it to the talk page for consensus-building, I see no reason to remove the section from the page. Dayewalker (talk) 22:37, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Please explain in greater detail what you're talking about, IP. Giving reasons to remove a reliably sourced account in an edit summary doesn't allow for discussion. Dayewalker (talk) 23:02, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Consensus isn't gained through edit warring and edit summaries. Please explain here your reasons for deleting soured information. Dayewalker (talk) 23:22, 28 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Nowhere in the section does it say the incident was motivated by racism. It says that Moats questioned whether race played a part in the incident, which is a true statement of fact. Dayewalker (talk) 23:37, 28 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anon's persistent removal of factual information 

message: Does this section have to be 1/2 the bio especially since it is about one event? I know this just happened and its huge tabloid fodder, but this is ridiculous. I guess we'll have to wait a year or two and then trim it down to 3 sentences if that? Tom (talk) 04:33, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, is there a direct quote from the Moats family that they feel race played a factor in the incident? I see that the citation says this but doesn't provide what the family said in this regard. Thanks, Tom (talk) 04:49, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There was a quote earlier from Moats saying that, I'm not sure what happened to it. It was there when the anon IP was blanking this page, I remember looking it up to make sure it's accurate. As for the personal section, sadly because of the national attention, the death of Moats' mother-in-law has vastly overshadowed anything he's done as a professional athlete. Hopefully that's not always the case. Dayewalker (talk) 04:54, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The author of the article says it but gives no direct quote. Its not so much his professional career, which is covered ok, its that his personal section has zippo, accept for this one defining incident. Unfortunatley, its due to some incident like this, that the bio will actually recieve attention and hopefully be improved. Anyways, Tom (talk) 05:23, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been vastly improved today actually. It'd be great if we could find that quote though, as i've said before its not really appropriate for an editor to determine the meaning of his statement. Matty (talk) 05:46, 4 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Better wait for others to comment. You know you have my go ahead, but who am I :) Cheers! Tom (talk) 05:23, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, first off, a) I am the one that first reported the incident on Wikipeida, b) I am the one that took the line where they wondered if race played a factor in the stop, DIRECTLY from the ESPN.com article. However, I didn't say that Moats himself thought race played a factor, I quoted the article itself. Just so ya know. Crash Underride 18:35, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, ok. So you edited the article, nothing wrong with that. This project is a collaboration. I am sure if you hadn't added this incident someone else would have. I am not passing judgement, eventhough I know it sounds like it above :) Anyways, seriously, no offense meant since it sounds like you are with the bolding and CAPS ect. Anyways, unless there is a direct quote from the Moats saying "yeah, this ws a race thingie", I would not attribute that to them. If others have said that, it should be attributed to those sources, even though I am in favor of trimming this significantly and not even going there. Anyways, Tom (talk) 20:54, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal section, maybe retitle section?

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