Talk:Jacques Rancière

message: Maybe it's just me, but this part doesn't make sense:
Joseph Jacotot, a post-Revolutionary philosopher of education who discovered that he could teach things he did not know (for instance, Jacotot taught Flemish students to speak French without speaking any Flemish himself).
That is not an example of someone teaching something he doesn't know. If he'd taught French students how to speak Flemish without knowing Flemish, yes.
Is this just a mistake, or something explained badly?
reply: I think this is a mistake, but a "good" one in the sense that the example of Jacotot teaching Flemish students French is very important in the book. This was how Jacotot discovered his "method" by, as Ranciere puts it, "chance." The problem with the sentence arises because the Flemish student episode is not an example of Jacotot teaching something he didn't himself know (as you pointed out), but it is an example of the Jacotot method. The Jacotot method is not simply a way for people to teach things they don't know, it's just that the idea of people teaching things they don't know is the most dramatic aspect, perhaps, of what the Jacotot method allows. Thus, as far as a revision in the article, I suggest that the sentence be changed altogether to convey all of this. As it is, it oversimplifies to the point of skewing.
reply: In 1818, Jacotot, knowing no Flemish, found himself able to teach French to Flemish students who knew no French.  He gave them a bilingual edition of Télémaque.  He had the book delivered to the students and asked them, through an interpreter, to learn the French text with the help of the translation.  When they had made it through the first half of the book, he had them repeat what they had learned over and over then told them to read through the rest of the book until they could recite it.  Without explication, the Flemish students were able to write in French what they thought about Télémaque and they were able to write in French and understand the text as well French students.  Jacotot merely acted as a guide, he never directly taught them French.  His method of Universal teaching was that of: learning, repeating, imitating, translating, taking apart, and putting back together.      —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.47.176.235 (talk) 06:59, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
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message: As mentioned by other editors above, this section makes little sense. It is full of uncited and tendentious material. I've removed some of the more obvious and POV stuff, but there is a lot more to be done SeamusSweeney (talk) 16:14, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
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