Talk:Pike (weapon)

message: In the article it says that unlike similar weapons the pike isn't thrown, I'm wondering what are these similar weapons becasue as far as I know only the Javelin was thrown. 174.48.116.196 (talk) 02:34, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Thrown weapons

message: Somewhere in Wikipedia I read that the pike was vulnerable to the Halberd or some kind of bladed pole weapon.  It gave an example of where rhe English used it to chop off the heads of Scots pikes, leaving them with a broken pole.  Was that Flodden?  No matter, I think it needs to go in with this article somewhere.
IceDragon64 (talk) 10:47, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: vulnerability to Halberd

message: "There are examples of pikemen throwing their weapons down and seizing muskets from fallen comrades, a sign that the pike was on the wane as a weapon."
What are these examples? In a discussion I've had elsewhere, I learned that it wouldn't have been very natural for pikemen to just pick up firearms like that, since the pike was considered a gentleman's weapon at the time and discarding it for a firearm would have been seen as somewhat demeaning. On the other hand, many pikemen also seem to have had extensive training in firearm use even though they were not meant to use them (firearms) in battle. So, since these indirect extrapolations have resulted in an equivocal conclusion, I'd be very grateful if anyone can actually post references to primary source accounts of the relevant incidents (of pikemen taking up firearms). Otherwise I'd feel compelled to remove the quoted passage. Lay (talk) 09:04, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soldiers dropping their pikes? 

message: At the end of WW2, women were trained to defend Japan with bamboo pikes. That msut have been the last major tactical formation of pikes during a war. 
--Malin Randstrom (talk) 08:12, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm glad there was no invasion of Japan. Poor women. Can you provide a source for that? Wandalstouring (talk) 09:18, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last use of spears or pikes 

message: If memory serves correctly, there were pikes used against German tanks in various places around the world (of course, to no avail). I know that the British were planning to use pikes to somehow stall or stop German tanks when they came ashore in the Battle of Britian: never happened. Colonel Marksman (talk) 00:48, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Provide reliable sources. Wandalstouring (talk) 13:36, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  for starters.Plumtree100 (talk) 14:27, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Does this mean that steel tubes with bayonets were training equipment for senseless bayonet charges or is there any mention of these bayonet tubes used in combat? Note also that there are pikes and spears and somehow the pike starts at around 3 meters/9 feet. Wandalstouring (talk) 17:55, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pikes in WWII

message: :Category:Spears is itself a category within :Category:Pole weapons. — Robert Greer (talk) 02:12, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Category:Pole weapons]] ''vs.'' [[:Category:Spears]]  

message: Hi, I added a note about the use of the Sarissa, an ancient Pike to the intro as this article. The Sarissa article refers to it as a Pike in the intro so it seemed appropriate. Previously the intro stated that the Pike was used from the early medieval period until 1700 which completely ignored the history of it's successful use up until then. I also removed the statemen,t " While the soldiers using such spears may not have called them "pikes", their tactical employment of these weapons ran along broadly similar lines.", as it seems redundant, every object has a different name in another language but we don't put that in every article. Master z0b (talk) 02:38, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro changes 

message: The image of Swiss guards is captioned as "Swiss guardsmen armed with pikes and halberds", when I look at the photo I can only see Halberds and not Pikes. Unless someone objects I'm going to remove it, we already have a lot of good photos in this article. Master z0b (talk) 03:55, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image removal 

message: Brief content on bagrenye (ceremonial sturgeon fishing by Russian Cossacks using their pikes) was relocated this date from its errant posting at the Pike pole page (a page on the tool and its various modern uses) to this one on the pike as a weapon (as that is what the Cossacks were using, not firefighters', loggers', or construction workers' tools).  Its relevance here is for a consensus to decide.Wikiuser100 (talk) 17:36, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope: the Russian sources all used the term bagor багор ("pike pole" - a tool, as the one used by the firefighters, or, for example people who float timber in rafts) rather than pika пике ("pike" - a common Cossack weapon). Apparently a tool with a hook is a lot more convenient for getting the fish from the river bottom than a pike (essentially, a lance) would be. -- Vmenkov (talk) 17:34, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relocated pike fishing (''bagrenye'') content 

message: If I get it right the pike was not only a melee weapon exclusively (not thrown) but also always 2-handed (or at least worn with the second hand free to support the pike).
If that's correct it would be nice to be added to the early part of this article to distinguish the pike further from the more general spear and the different javelin.
Since I'm not sure about this I didn't change the article itself. Florian Finke (talk) 12:14, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Narrow the definition 

message: "A common misconception is that pikes were employed for use against cavalry. "
This sentence is not true.  Pikes were indeed employed against cavalry.  Their relative success due to having or not having cavalry support does not change the fact that pikes were employed for use against cavalry. 66.66.149.221 (talk)   — Preceding undated comment added 08:01, 11 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Used against cavalry 

message: Why does File:Pike square img 3655.jpg have no caption in the article?
Vpitt5 (talk) 00:55, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Caption