Talk:Edna Parker

message: I disagree with the statement that 'this article does not cite its sources.' There is a link to the GRG page and a citation of a newspaper article. 65.81.27.35 15:20, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: The article currently claims 1893 as the year of Ms. Parker's birth and 1911 as the year of her marriage, making her approximately 18 when she was married. At this age, however, the article also states that she had been teaching for "several years" and had been pursuing a degree in education. Was it conceivable to have had several years of teaching experience by age 18 during the early 1900s?
--74.241.103.221 19:17, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed the same thing, and it doesn't seem to make sense to me either. It should either be re-worded, or the phenomenon of teenagers teaching school in the early 20th century should be explained. OlYeller 23:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Year of marriage? 

message: I find the subject of oldest living people somewhat macabre, but I've just been reading the AfD on Edna Parker's article back in October 2006 when she was merely 7th oldest. See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Edna Parker. I found it ironic that people then were talking of a moving target, and how she might one day become the oldest person in the world. Well, what do you know... Carcharoth 21:58, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Congratulations! 

message: The vote was 6-2 in favor of "Keep" this article, but the conclusion was "no consensus?" How's that? OlYeller 23:23, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, AfD is not a vote, that's why. But that discussion was 10 months ago. Old history. Carcharoth 23:31, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. OlYeller 00:12, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No consensus? 

message: Do we mention other claims, or not? See  and . Carcharoth 10:02, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: NO! When there is clear and convincing evidence, Guinness has taken titles back to give to someone older (i.e. Ramona Trinidad Iglesias-Jordan replaced Charlotte Benkner). However, a mere unsubstantiated claim is not worth mentioning; they exist all the time and never go away.Ryoung122 13:06, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. Just mentioning the other claims. This one has some mention of church records. I suppose in the next century, documenting these claims will be easier, using modern records. Carcharoth 14:27, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Assuming such modern records actually survive into the next century.  It's surprising how short a 20-year retention policy seems when compared to people's lives :). --Stestagg 16:44, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about the other claims? 

message: Why are most of the really old people (108+) really small? For example, Edna Parker is only about five feet tall and weighs 70 pounds. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.136.237.89 (talk) 22:45, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How do you know this? Kitia'' 20:38, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First off, people shrink as they age, as cartilage in their spine wears out. Weight peaks at 56-64 and after that, people gradually get thinner as well. Second, however, just as a small car is more fuel-efficient than an SUV, so it makes sense that small people would live longer because their body is more efficient. However, there is a limit: when people are small due to dwarfism, often that is a sign of genetic mistakes. Hence, we rarely see centenarian dwarves. Ryoung122 23:07, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's right, man. Extremely sexy 15:41, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age 108+ people 

message: Some sources say Johnson County, while others state Morgan County, so which one is correct? Extremely sexy 11:54, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's definitely important to state the correct birthplace in the article, is it not? Extremely sexy 13:45, 11 October 2007 (UTC)

text: There you have it: even more confusion. Extremely sexy 13:45, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exact birthplace 

message: This ain't a Facebook page. Surely this info is irrelevant and should be deleted? 195.188.40.144 (talk) 15:19, 17 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Trivia it may be, but it's nice to know, it's verifiable and true, and pads out an otherwise small article. It's cultural trivia: what does the oldest person in the world do to entertain themselves? And trivia is not discouraged on Wikipedia. Just Trivia SECTIONS are discouraged. 82.22.107.146 (talk) 19:19, 9 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Your premises fail to be relevant to your conclusion. Neal (talk) 19:10, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What I did remove is the reference to her having the same birthday as Harold Lloyd. It is trivial, merely a coincidence and adds nothing of encyclopedic value to the page. Cheers, CP 01:25, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Enjoys reciting poetry" - who cares?

message: http://www.wthr.com/Global/story.asp?S=6033117 This website and some others I have found say Morgan County in Central Indiana.
Regards (npnunda)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Npnunda (talk • contribs) 01:50, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Where she was born

message: Hello,
I had to remove 2 references: the link was broken. Yann (talk) 18:55, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken link 

message: Does anybody know do other wiki articles have the citation in the middle of the name like that? It looks weird. Would it be better to have it at the end of her name? What to other wiki articles do? --Npnunda (talk) 03:12, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never seen it before, but if it's citing a specific fact (her middle name), then there's no precise harm in it. I do feel, however, that no one's going to ask for a citation that her name is "Edna Parker," so I think that if it were at the end of the name, it would be fairly obvious that it was a citation for her name as a whole and not just "Parker." It's just a stylistic difference as far as I know. Re-reading that, I'm not a morning person, so I'm not sure that that makes sense. Cheers, CP 14:30, 20 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Though, as was pointed out to me, shouldn't it be "Scott-Parker" and therefore the citation should go at the end? Cheers, CP 14:34, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I vote against hyphenation, because we almost always show people's names as they choose for themselves (WP:ID). Also, in U.S. custom I see hyphenation as a form that people adopt for themselves as a new last name (e.g., Hyphen#Other_compounds); otherwise, people's former names are usually shown as middle names, un-hyphenated, without changing their last name. As for the citation, what do others think of moving it elsewhere in the article? E.g., change "Edna Scott[1] Parker (born April 20, 1893)" to "Edna Parker (born April 20, 1893)", and change the beginning of the Biography section to "Parker was born Edna Scott,[3] on a farm ...." My 2¢ worth, --Rich Janis (talk) 19:35, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems perfectly reasonable to me and I have no problem with it at all. Cheers, CP 14:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I moved the ref. to the end of the name. --Npnunda (talk) 03:39, 10 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good job, man. Extremely sexy (talk) 22:06, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Edna Scott Parker

message: I removed the picture because it has copyright issues. --Npnunda (talk) 00:29, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed picture 

message: the original text said "She is one of only twenty-four people validated to have reached 115 years of age (four of which are not completely validated, and are often discounted)". I changed that so it reads 20, and without the remark, since as they are "often discounted" why should Wikipedia count them? "not completely validated" also strikes me as unencyclopedic. I also added a fact-tag, as I didn't see any source to where this 20 (or 24) came from. Jalwikip (talk) 07:20, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia's list of oldest people, and personal knowledge that the cases of Butariu, Hongo, Izumi are likely not correct.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert Waalk (talk • contribs) 02:40, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  number of 115-year people 

message: This cannot be true. Her grandson and her granddaughter both have said that she has not been able to walk since she was 109 due to a fall, and she is always pictured in a wheelchair.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 152.94.82.120 (talk) 16:11, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Still able to walk 

message: I know that the talk page is not a forum, but I don't care in this case. I have been watching this page for a couple of months now and was hoping she would make it to 120. RIP Edna Parker. The world will miss you.--Jojhutton (talk) 14:53, 27 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  So Sad 

message: Since my Bold change was Reverted, I'm here to Discuss the changes I  made. One major change was to improve the references as most were dead links, which was most certainly not vandalism.
Part of the change I made was to remove fancruft, including the majority of the Later years section. Please note that verifiability does not guarantee inclusion, and if sonething is mentioned in only one source then it's WP:UNDUE to include it. If it isn't sourced, it can be removed.
, this article in its current state is bad: its poorly-referenced and lacking in encyclopaedic tone. I'm happy to work with you to fix it, if you're willing to do that. Ca2james (talk) 19:51, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello? Anyone there? Is anyone willing to participate in this discussion? Ca2james (talk) 05:08, 3 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article rewrite 

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