Talk:Architectural lighting design

message: I find it astonishing that names like Richard Kelly (lighting design), Howard Brandston, and Paul Marantz aren't mentioned at all in the notable lighting designers list. These were a few of the fathers of the profession. Your notable lighting designer list appears to be slightly biased with sporadic knowledge of the history of the field. An update is recommended.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Iamlucasking (talk • contribs) 15:17, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess if these people don't have a wikipedia article, they are not listed here. If we make lists in articles like this we only list the people, who do have an Wikipedia article. These persons aren't always the most notable people in the field. So just start an article about them, and add them to the listing. -- Marcel Douwe Dekker (talk) 14:17, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Richard Kelly (lighting designer) does have a Wikipedia page. I started it myself, and following some discussion it has been deemed of sufficient importance to stay up. As such, I've added him to this list. -- Headlessness 16:24, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

text:  Personally I think that this list should comprise solely of people and not companies. Does anyone else have a view on this? -- Headlessness 17:10, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think a better question would be: Why are these notable? Convert the section to prose, describing the notable projects or honors that these people received, otherwise remove them. --Thorseth (talk) 22:34, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Going through WP:GNG and related pages, for this topic the best thumb of rule is to see if they have designed major buildings and structures of significant notability, plus some good press mentions. Lighting design topics and design biographies in general need a lot of work on Wikipedia. Of course there's always some autobiographical stuff to clean up and write from a more neutral point of view. Cheers. Fiatluxmax (talk) 08:39, 16 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  Beatrice Irwin anyone? For the first time in the history of the Association a convention was addressed by a woman when Miss Beatrice Irwin, an Associate in Arts of Oxford University in England, a member of the IES and the author of several books, one of which is entitled The New Science of Color, spoke on 'Color Effects in Lighting.' Miss Irwin has made a scientific study of all forms of color and is now applying the results of her knowledge to electric lighting. The main features of her talk appear elsewhere in this issue.” Irwin was introduced to the convention by William L. Goodwin, a major figure in the National Electric Light Association and the resulting crowd at her demonstrations "elbowed their way" to watch. … Goodwin underscored her work partly because it was a new entry into the discipline and necessarily brought innovation in styles where most practitioners tended to imitate eachother. "Miss Irwin's work has reached the point where she now has something definite…." And this kind of coverage was echoed in other trade journals including ones authored by her or quotes from her talk. Smkolins 20:17, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quality of Notable Lighting Designer List Questionable 

message: Maybe we need new section called architectural lighting design techniques and summarize them together.--Polyesterchips (talk) 05:12, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: "If you want anything done properly around here, you have to do it yourself". So how about you draft some text, put it   here for comment and if it is agreed to be neutral and based on wp:reliable sources (and not your own wp:original research), then it can go in the article. Welcome to Wikipedia! --John Maynard Friedman (talk) 10:28, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  This article used to be largely that, but the article as a whole was very messy at the time, largely uncited, and half of the edits were coming from people in the lighting industry trying to promote their products or services. See the beginning of my above discussion with . It's not that it can't be done, if you are so committed, but to John's point above, it should be encyclopedic and well cited and not promotional. Let us know if you have a proposal. – voidxor 22:17, 25 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lighting technicals