Talk:March of the Pigs

message: ? Kas0809 (talk) 22:36, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
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message: The bulk of the tune sounds like it's just in 7/8 time to me.  There are sections that are in 4/4 but it doesn't alternate 3 bars of 7/8 and 1 of 4/4.  I'm going to change it unless someone can source it --Frantik (talk) 04:52, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. The bulk of the tune is indeed in 7/8 time - except (as was previously noted in the article until you deleted it) for every fourth bar which adds an extra 8th note. It's not just random insertions of a 4/4 bar - it follows a regular pattern: 1 bar of 7/8, 1 bar of 7/8, 1 bar of 7/8, 1 bar of 8/8 (or more simply 4/4); then that same set of 4-bars totalling 29 8th notes, repeated over and over. The article didn't say it was a 29/8 time signature, it said "in effect a 29/8 time signature". And it is - except... the verses actually alternate: the loud, thrashy sections are "29/8", but the quieter sections (beginning with "All the pigs are all lined up" and ending with "Doesn't it make you feel better?") are in straight 4/4. This might be where you're confused. But I think the existing text was a good, clear explanation of the most interesting thing about this song (despite not mentioning the quiet sections in continuous 4/4). Saying "Most of the song is in 7/8 time" is really just dumbing it down and making it both less interesting and less accurate. I'd like to revert it to how it was before, but should we mention the sections of continuous 4/4 too? Lontano (talk) 19:03, 2 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll take your word for it, though i think we both can agree that it probably falls under original research regardless of what it says ;) --Frantik (talk) 01:20, 14 May 2010 (UTC)
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