Talk:Cello Concerto (Dvořák)

message: I changed the approx. times to 13/10/11=35, based on the 1937 Casals/Szell recording, which is "something of a 'gold standard' as far as approaches to tempo are concerned". -Dvořák Cello Concerto by Jan Smaczny, Cambridge 1999. DevastatorIIC 11:14, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not disputing the change, I just wanted to add that those times seem rather fast.  The Rostropovich recordings are about 15/12/12 and they are magnificent.--Swattie 18:23, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Approximate times 

message: Cello Concerto (Dvořák) is a misleading title.  It suggests that Dvořák wrote only one cello concerto, but we know this is not the case (see Cello Concerto in A major (Dvořák)).  
It's in the same class as talking about "Tchaikovsky's Piano Concerto" or "Bruch's Violin Concerto". 
I propose it be moved to Cello Concerto in B minor (Dvořák).  --  Jack of Oz  ... speak! ...  00:40, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No interest?  OK, time to get this done.  See Requested move below.  --  Jack of Oz  ... speak! ...  21:15, 6 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Move proposal

message: I don't normally do this, but I still see a problem.  It’s a problem in places like List of compositions for cello and orchestra, where we list both the Dvořák concertos.  The issue is that the concertos are never numbered as No. 1 and No. 2, and Wikipedia isn’t the place to arbitrarily assign such numbers to them (even though it could be argued that’s exactly what they are; it could also be argued that the B minor shouldn’t take any number because it was the only one Dvořák finished – which leaves open the question of just how to refer to the one in A major). 
In the List article, the early one is probably best called Cello Concerto in A major; and the well-known one can be called Cello Concerto in B minor.  That requires a piped link.  Easy enough to do, but the question of principle remains.  If we accept that the one in A major was a cello concerto by Dvořák (however incomplete he may have left it), then how can it be simultaneously argued that the one in B minor should be named as if it were the only one he wrote?  --  Jack of Oz  ... speak! ...  04:18, 8 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Move proposal: revisited

message: The article at the moment lists 5 "theories." For the first three no references are given but for the third I plan to supply one (Clapham, 1979) that rather clearly supports it. For the fourth and fifth references are given but they seem to be dead links. Marlindale (talk) 20:27, 19 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Why Wihan did not premiere

message: It seems fine to me to delete those numbers. Many recordings of Dvořák pieces are by Czech ensembles, which also is not worth enumerating. Marlindale (talk) 01:52, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  How many recordings of Elgar's concerto were by British orchestras? 

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