Talk:Melbourne/Archive 1

message: I have created the preliminary page for the WikiProject Melbourne. Please feel free to add something here, as the project is still in formulation. The primrary aim is to fill in the rail network and suburbs. The scope could expand to other elements of the city in future. Those interested in working on the above topics, please add your names to the project and join in the discussion. (There are as yet no templates or guidelines for articles, this will be updated soon). Hypernovean 08:38, 5 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject Melbourne

message: the public transport section is too large. needs to be moved to Public transport in Melbourne. --Hemanshu 16:24, 30 Jun 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It might be better to go to Railways in Melbourne and Buses in Melbourne; as there are already Metcard and Trams in Melbourne pages, and there's a lot regarding history, privization, etc. etc. for each area. TPK 11:15, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there's room for both. What's there now would make a good Public transport in Melbourne, but there's also room for expanded articles on railways and buses. Ambivalenthysteria 11:46, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with the above.  Have just moved much of the Metcard/Ticketing text into Metcard.  PC 02:09, 30 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Public transport in Melbourne 

message: Sorry to be blunt but could someone please get rid of the SAMPA stuff and revert to plain English description of the pronounciation. PMA 18:02, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It's back again. I've told the anon user we've decided on "MEL-buhn", and asked he/she to discuss it if he/she thinks its absolutely neccessary. TPK 02:31, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks! :) Ambivalenthysteria 02:34, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem appears to be in making sure the pronunciation is Australian and not American; not just SAMPA-rising it. But I think MEL-buhn is how we would say it, Americans tend to pronounce it more like mel-BORN. But maybe it would be better with the 'h', i.e. MEL-bun? It is hard to get pronounciations right! TPK 02:46, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm, you're right there. I don't know. They're both right, damnit. My only issue with with "MEL-bun" is that it's perhaps a slangish shortening. Ambivalenthysteria 02:51, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Does not hurt to have SAMPA. It just gives a better idea of pronunciation than just simple pronunciation, especially for the -uh- part, which is pronounced as a schwa. The simple pronunciation is still mentioned. --203.220.171.232 12:47, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Pronunciation

message: Could someone verify this edit?  A quick google throws up random dates, 1834, and both May and August 1835 -  -- Chuq 07:05, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we're opening a can of worms here. A quick google turns up about ten different dates. However, the museum's site seems to support the anon edit, so I could go with that. Ambi 08:41, 6 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yeah, this link proposes August 1835. http://www.onlymelbourne.com.au/melbourne_details.php?id=776 — SimonEast 03:32, 7 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verify edit 

message: I have made an entry in the Talk:Sydney page suggesting an article on this. I think it would fun to read for all Melburnians and Sydneysiders. --CloudSurfer 05:22, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is a fascinating link that would be worth using: 1901: A socio-economic profile of Australia at Federation I am guessing that in 1880 the Melbourne/Sydney population difference was even greater. I haven't been able to find evidence of that though. --CloudSurfer 07:08, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: A little more searching reveals Changing patterns of population distribution in Australia which shows that in 1881 the total colony population percentages were NSW 33.3% Vic 38.3%, 1901 NSW 35.9% Vic 31.8%. Unfortunately, it doesn't give the city populations. --CloudSurfer 08:11, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Sydney-Melbourne rivalry

message: I think the article needs to mention that Melbourne was named after the then British Prime Minister Lord Melbourne - Grover9 19:12, 19 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of Melbourne name 

message: I notice this article has adopted a US-style population of the actual City of Melbourne itself, as opposed to the style used everywhere else (including Australia) whereby city population is of the entire metropolitan area. This article states that Melbourne is the second largest city in Australia, then lists its City of Melbourne population and metro population. But if we're going to mention the central city population as a size of the city, then Brisbane is the Largest City in Australia. As far as I know, the entire metro area of Brissie is the one local government area, the City of Brisbane. So that means about 1.4 million people live in that (local government area) City and hence Brisbane is Australia's Largest City. Which of course is a load of piffle, but I still think it's screwed up mentioning the population of the City of Melbourne in this article as if it were being ranked according to that as well as the metro population. - Mark 03:32, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  City population 

message: The Supper Club?
I'm not from Melbourne - is there something special about this Supper Club which makes it worthy of inclusion?  It flagged a big red "advertising" warning in my brain when I read it.
Ozzage 17:39, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm, maybe it should go; it's pretty well-known but perhaps not so significant it belongs in this article. --Robert Merkel 07:18, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)

text: Agreed. Ambi 08:46, 5 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advertising

message: Whilst Melbourne is a beautiful and picturesque city, is it appropriate for 3 of the 5 external links to be to photo sites? Josh Parris ✉ 08:01, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo sites 

message: Melbourne parks and gardens section is nearing completion with only a few more parks suggested for articles as part of the :Category:Melbourne parks and gardens. Given that the parklands and gardens are an important tourist attraction and are intrinsic to the reputation of Melbourne as the garden city in the Garden state, a link to the main article needs to be incorporated into the Melbourne article, probably the top section before the Table of Contents. I am a bit stumped for words, does someone else want to have a go at this?--Takver 8 July 2005 03:29 (UTC)
:I've been brutally efficent and just pasted in the introductory para from Melbourne parks and gardens.  I'm sure over time it will mutate into something differnt. Josh Parris ✉ 04:19, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Melbourne Parks and Gardens

message: A recent edit has increased the number of AFL teams based in Melb from 9 to 10.  So, for the purposes of this article... Is Geelong part of Melbourne? Josh Parris ✉ 23:46, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No.  However, don't Geelong play some of their "home" games at the Dome?  --Robert Merkel 01:02, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is Geelong part of Melbourne? 

message: I find the statement that "Melbourne today is home to the largest number of surviving Victorian Era buildings of any city in the world other than London." hard to believe. What about Paris? What is the source?
:In this case "Victorian Era" refers to a period in the history of the British Empire, and Melbourne's architecture reflects its presence in the Empire.  France has a rather different architectural heritage.  --Robert Merkel 04:47, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Dubious statement

message: I run a restaurant review website for Melbourne and Victoria, and wanted to see if I can link to it from either the restaurant section or in the links down the bottom.  I thought I should clear it with the project team first.  The website in question is "FoodGod" http://www.foodgod.com.au and encourages public opinion and reviews of venues in Melbourne and beyond.  If no-one has any objections, I'll add the link in the next few weeks.  Cheers Neolux 11:12, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm.  It appears to be informative and useful, but it's getting close to the line of what's merely advertising.  But for me it's on the acceptable side.  -Robert Merkel 06:30, 4 August 2005 (UTC)

text: Perhaps more suited for wikitravel:Melbourne? Josh Parris [#] 07:02, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I would propose something like: "The Age newspaper produces two "Good Restaurant" guides - one for low-cost eating and another for more elaborate restaurants.  The online restaurant guide FoodGod is also available, and has reviews of a number of eateries in Melbourne by local residents." Neolux 11:45, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  As there has been no opposition to this for over a month, I have made the above change to the main page.  Neolux 10:16, 7 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restaurants 

message: What about Melbourne, FL? Surely theres should be a distinction between Melbourne in Australia and Melbourne in Florida? Wikisub 12:29, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a link to Melbourne (disambiguation) in the first line? -- Chuq 12:42, 15 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: When Melbourne, Florida gains, oh, another 3,529,000 residents and becomes the state capital of Florida, then it can have equal status with Melbourne. Ambi 07:01, 20 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: More importantly, what about Melbourne, Kentucky? --bainer (talk) 10:56, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Melbourne FL