Talk:AFL final eight system

message: An anon editor changed the article to credit Kim Crawford as the inventor of the current finals system.  I've reverted this. I have no objection to the claim being discussed , but in those terms only - not as a conclusive fact. -- I@n 08:22, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: At this point, there is no discussion of authorship at all, which is odd, given that the previous systems were all named after their author. I'd like to see some discussion of it, even if inconclusive? 123.243.120.100 (talk) 06:13, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

text: I can't access that page, but previous claims were not compelling.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.98.123 (talk) 01:21, 6 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps someone at the AFL thought of it independently. It is a logical enough system for people to arrive at for themselves. The previous system was terrible, and over the years it existed we all had plenty of time to think about how it should be improved. I know I personally came up with almost exactly the current system in my musings and spent a couple of years telling people about it before I saw Eddie McGuire propose much the same thing on the Footy Show. But I'm not putting my hand up asking for recognition! 124.149.241.238 (talk) 23:49, 5 September 2023 (UTC)

text: I was able to access the FB page mentioned above ... where Crawford has shared the extensive letter campaign he waged promoting 'his' system. (I note that he had 1v3, 2v4, 5v7, 6v8 in the first round, which is a tiny bit different to what ended up in place.) It makes it clear that the AFL (and various clubs) had to be aware that he had proposed it, but I can't see how that rules out other people having also come up with it (as for instance I did, unaware that he had). 124.149.241.238 (talk) 00:34, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Kim Crawford

message: The entire section on Proposed Revisions are merely opinions by a non-AFL and hence irrelevant group of people. If there no substantiated evidence that the AFL has given serious consideration to these proposals, then these are just people's opinions and have no encyclopædic merit, and should be removed from the page. I have removed them from the page by enclosing the entire section in comment tags; if you agree with my thoughts, then we can completely delete the section. Aspirex 11:00, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed revisions

message: There should be a criticism on the fact that if every team has a 50% chance of winning each match 4th is three times more likely to win then 5th. I think that part of the system is really stupid.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.253.50.161 (talk) 09:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism

message: Reduced to start as there isnt coverage of how it came about only how it works IMHO that means half of the information is missing. Gnangarra 13:48, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Re rated Class

message: I think this is a really great article. Excellent info, very readable, great resource. Well done all contributors!! ROxBo (talk) 12:44, 29 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Article

message: Can someone please explain why the week two games are called semi finals? In every other tournament, the winners of the semi finals play in the grand final.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.210.29.249 (talk) 08:10, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is interesting, but it should be sourced. I moved the comment to #Notes for formatting purposes - see WP:REFGROUP. If this is expanded into a History section or similar, the new section can of course be deleted. - 2/0 (cont.) 12:34, 21 September 2010 (UTC)

text: I also found this interesting/useful 123.243.120.100 (talk) 06:12, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi final?

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message: Is it worth mentioning the slightly anomalous naming of the finals? I was thinking along the lines of...
The "preliminary finals" are effectively what would be called semi-finals in other settings, [ while the "semi-finals" are effectively something like quarter-finals ]. The naming is a carry-over from older finals system (insert link to final 5 description). 124.149.241.238 (talk) 23:55, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: We included that once but never had a reference which properly met the WP:VERIFY requirements, so it was challenged and removed. I'm in favour of including it (I think it's common knowledge) but if we had a ref it would be easier. Aspirex (talk) 00:30, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've now noticed that it is currently explained in a footnote, more or less exactly along the lines I suggested. That seems adequate. 124.149.241.238 (talk) 00:37, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming of Semi and Preliminary finals