Talk:Kingdom of Tungning

message: This article is in Wade-Giles, shouldn't this article be in Pinyin as the 'Kingdom of Dongning'? Semi-Lobster (talk) 01:06, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article move 

message: *
The Zheng family's Generals repeatedly suggested and drew up plans for invading the Spanish Philippines and taking it over.
http://irows.ucr.edu/papers/irows72/irows72.htm
Rajmaan (talk) 20:19, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tungning's planned invasions of the Spanish Philippines 

message: Regarding this edit, although Koxingxa professed loyalty to the Southern Ming, the regime he established on Taiwan in 1662 was not a successor to the Southern Ming, who never ruled the place.  Kanguole 13:43, 13 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Predecessor in infobox 

message: http://escholarship.org/uc/item/133829bz#page-85
Rajmaan (talk) 03:00, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Between Trade and Legitimacy, Maritime and Continent: The Zheng Organization in Seventeenth-Century East Asia 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was: No consensus. There seems to be no agreement that the proposed title is the best name and little agreement on other possible titles.  The page was moved a little over a year ago in the opposite direction to revert a move in the direction of this request.  Since the first stable page name was Kingdom of Tungning, that name should remain until a consensus for one particular title is garnered.  (non-admin closure)  Wikipedian Sign Language Paine  07:22, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Kingdom of Tungning →  – Not really sure why WP:PINYIN doesn't apply here; this romanization seems quite inconsistent with the articles of major people in this kingdom (Zheng Jing, Zheng Kezang, Zheng Keshuang, Queen Dong etc. are all pinyin romanizations) Ngram seems to prefer Dongning in recent years, , although this is complicated by the existence of the city Dongning, Heilongjiang. Timmyshin (talk) 06:36, 23 June 2016 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Let's try another one...
* 明鄭時期 literally means "Ming's Zheng Period", i.e. the  Period of the Ming Dynasty, which is the most common Chinese name to refer to this kingdom, because the Koxinga's official name of this kingdom was still "Ming", in order to show his loyalty and devotion to the former Ming Dynasty. --Yejianfei (talk) 17:34, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 23 June 2016 

message: I have reverted edits describing Zhu Shugui as ruler of Tungning, and the kingdom as part of the Southern Ming (which most sources describe as ending with the death of the Yongli Emperor in 1662).  As these are part of edits across several articles, I have opened a discussion at Talk:Ming dynasty#Southern Ming and Tungning.  Kanguole 14:50, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Southern Ming and Tungning 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The references supplied do not support the phrase "Kingdom of Tywan". Indeed one of them (Kang, p. 347) even says:
Earlier in the same article (p. 345), he says that the term "kingdom" came to be applied to the Zheng regime from the mid-2000s. Kanguole 10:18, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kingdom of Tywan 

message: I cannot find a single link that make such claims. Zheng Jing lasted until 1681 and the Kingdom of Tungning lasted until 1684. This sentence " Zheng Jing's navy defeated a combined Qing-Dutch fleet commanded by Han Banner general Ma Degong in 1664 and Ma was killed in the battle."was way back in 2019. Are you telling me the article had been wrongly added on all this time?.82.36.220.78 (talk) 23:57, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Show me that Zheng Jing was defeated by Qing-Dutch in 1664 

message: No source for the flag is mentioned in the article, and the flag is only mentioned in the infobox. In page for the image file, there is a link to a blog post. The blog post isn't even about the flag in particular, it's about the Presidential Office in Taipei, and the supposed flag is on some sort of information plaque about the historic flags in Taiwan. In any case, not reliable evidence.
A flag with "Zheng" written on it was almost certainly used at some point, but by putting it in the infobox, that's implying that only that design with a red circle on it was used, which we have no reliable evidence for. Mucube (talk • contribs) 01:12, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suspicious flag