Talk:University of Liverpool

message: I would like to propose the inclusion of two web sites related to the University of Liverpool (and its Guild of Students)
These sites are:
www.livdarts.com - The UofL darts society (not run by me, and nothing to do with me)
www.citycu.co.uk - The UofL Christian Union (designed and hosted by me, but not run by me)
For some incomprehensible reason, these two web sites seem to be causing massive offense to one user, Chris Howells. so for the sake of Wikipedia, I am opening up a calm, sensible debate as to whether they should be included as related external links.
Many thanks
Paulfp 17:33, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links 

message: Can anyone tell me who Andrew and Alison McCraken are, after doing a Google search, nothing really sticks out of great note.--Bensnowden 11:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Andrew and Alison McCraken 

message: "Rated as one of the top medical schools in the country" Says who? Even as a student here, I'd have to say the medical school is pretty average. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Thepenguinmafia (talk • contribs) 10:13, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In response to this, The Times Good University Guide ranked medicine at Liverpool in the top 3 in the UK in 2006 and joint 9th for 2007(the basis of rating between the two years is different).  This puts Liverpool ahead of places such as Leeds, Sheffield, Birmingham and Bristol. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sol6584 (talk • contribs) 22:48, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rating 

message: Was Benjamin Nelson (a senator for Nebraska) really at the University of Liverpool? In what capacity? What independent source mentions this? After a search, I can't find any evidence anywhere that he has any connection with the University. His webpage suggests that he attended University in Nebraska. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.67.108.178 (talk) 02:17, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Benjamin Nelson 

message: (I'm posting this to all articles on UK universities as so far discussion hasn't really taken off on Wikipedia:WikiProject Universities.)
There needs to be a broader convention about which university rankings to include in articles. Currently it seems most pages are listing primarily those that show the institution at its best (or worst in a few cases). See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Universities#University ratings. Timrollpickering 22:54, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: University ratings

message: I'm pretty sure Rob Grant and Doug Naylor arent alumni, but actually dropped out in their second year. Despite the fact that theyre both now successful writers, surely its inaccurate to refer to them as "alumni"? 88.111.47.92 17:09, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, they count even if they dropped out. See Alumnus. — mholland 17:39, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Notable Alumni 

message: Is there someone who can add something about the University of Liverpool's online graduate education programs? UofL was among the first universities in Europe to offer Masters degrees through an online system. 49oxen 01:09, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Online education at UofL

message: Hi, I added Tony McNulty as an Alumni as he wasn't on the list, I hope that's okay seeing as I'm not a Wikipedia member, just trying to help :)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.159.198.148 (talk) 00:01, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, but you don't have to be a "member" to edit here. Anyone can edit. Rodhullandemu 00:04, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tony McNulty 

message: Corrected minor typo.
--Nat Hillary 18:48, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ce 

message: It is my understanding that Charles Barkla demonstrated the medical application of X-rays, not Oliver Lodge. The wiki page dedicated to Lodge confirms this, though the university of Liverpool wiki article states otherwise. I may be wrong (hence me writing this here and not in the main article) so if anyone knows more please elaborate.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.192.248.131 (talk) 17:42, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charles Barkla 

message: The crest emblem that has replaced the current logo should be removed. This is the old emblem that is no longer used, and therefore does not reflect the organisation.
The logo that includes the new crest that was in that position before the old emblem should be moved back.
86.31.99.61 (talk) 15:54, 7 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Although I didn't make the change, I really prefer the old University Crest. In any case, I'm pretty sure you're wrong in your comments - the Crest was never replaced, the Crest and the Logo are separate things, and as a long time student at Liverpool, I seem to remember a communication telling us that the new Logo was the front for the University's corporate image, which is why it is used everywhere. The Logo may look nice for business, but it is not same thing the University Crest. I remember students were worried that the new Logo may appear on degree certificates, but the University assured graduates that the traditional crest would continue to appear on certificates. In my opinion, the Crest looks nice, a reflection of the University's history and age. I vote for it to be left as it is.86.166.17.94 (talk) 17:33, 7 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Do you have some reference from the university that the crest is no longer used, or is it just your opinion? It appears that the crest is still used for at least some things, for this page says that staff can download it for appropriate usage. —teb728 t c 20:47, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

text: If the logo is a genuine replacement for the crest, then that's fine. I prefer the crest but I won't argue against the use of the logo. On the other hand, I find your comments about the crest being 'not a good representation of the university' very strange. The very definition of the word representation means that there can be many of them. This is true in artistic representations; it is even true in matrix-valued representations of group operations in mathematical physics! If the new image which was posted was a pink elephant, that would be a poor representation of the university, because the university is not about pink elephants, is not associated with pink elephants nor does it offer courses on pink elephants. But the historical crest of the university? Replaced or not, it is a fine representation. And also bear in mind that corporate matters are not supreme - most students care more about their education than the university's business image. If the university now puts the corporate logo on degree certificates, then they misled students in the previous communication I mentioned, where they sought to reassure worried students that the logo would not be on it.86.180.207.161 (talk) 21:12, 9 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Just because it is not used now, it doesn't need to be removed completely; it'd be great if we could keep the record of its history, with some reference, showing when it was changed or any other info about it. Remember, the encyclopaedia is a historic record of the uni - not just what it is now, but what it has been - and I imagine that the crest has been around for a very long time.  Chzz  ►  14:59, 10 August 2011 (UTC)

text: In principle anyone including you could do it, but so far the consensus here seems to be that it should not be done. This page seems to say that the crest is still in use for at least some purposes. Do you have a reference less ephemeral than a phone call that gives the current status of the crest? —teb728 t c 09:12, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The homepage shows the new "logo" at the top. That would seem to be good enough for this to be used as the ibox image, with the full crest either removed or moved further down the article if the desire is to retain it for historical interest. – ukexpat (talk) 16:42, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, I meant to ask if the old crest is being used! I think the current logo (which incorporates the current crest/shield) should be at the top of the infobox with the old crest being shown elsewhere in the article and labelled as such (preferably with a reliable source indicating its former use) -- PhantomSteve.alt/talk\[alternative account of Phantomsteve] 17:04, 19 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Great minds think alike! – ukexpat (talk) 17:13, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

text: A different rendering (but showing the scroll, which is the difference between the old crest and new logo) of the crest is shown on the second page here. It’s not shown but described here. It’s not shown, but the University Logos section here says that crest files can be accessed but only by staff; apparently they want to control its use. —teb728 t c 17:57, 19 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Folks, are we still arguing about this, really? This is on its way to becoming a very lame edit war. – ukexpat (talk) 13:29, 31 August 2011 (UTC)

text: D Indeed it is. Fear not, I am in the process of amending the situation right now!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.108.107.237 (talk) 13:38, 31 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Crest/Emblem

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thread_title: File:Abercromby Square Gardens.JPG Nominated for speedy Deletion

message: One year ago someone added Pushpam Kumar to the list of Nobel laureates. First I thought a red-linked Nobel laureate was an obvious hoax, maybe to test if it could go undetected, but it turns out he was the main author of an IPCC report. The IPCC did of course get a Nobel, but isn't it still a bit misleading to say that its leading collaborators received the prize? //Essin (talk) 21:04, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hoax - or maybe not 

message: Response to third opinion request:
I've read the above discussion and have looked at the article history. I conclude that the version by Samwalton is preferable. Per WP:RECENT and WP:UNDUE, detailed coverage and focus of on-going events is not recommended. While covering such events, it's best to think of its impact in perspective of it ten years from now...we in no way can predict to outcome/impact of this on-going strike, so minimal coverage is the way to go. Also, a regular news agency like The Independent is always more suited as a source compared to local websites or those affiliated to the subject. If indeed a separate section is required detailing this strike, more reliable sources are needed to establish its notability and whether it affected the academic profile. Till then, I agree that it just needs to be added to the "History" section. Sincerely, Ugog Nizdast (talk) 08:37, 9 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: [[WP:3O]]

message: Can somebody please find a way to incorporate this information into the article?
    Principals of University College, Liverpool
    June 1881 - January 1898 Gerald Henry Rendall
    1898 - December 1899 Richard Tetley Glazebrook March
    January 1900 - September 1903 Alfred William Winterslow Dale
    Vice-Chancellors of the University of Liverpool
    July 1903 - September 1919 Alfred William Winterslow Dale
    October 1919 - September 1926 John George Adami
    Acting Vice-Chancellor
    October 1926 - August 1927 Professor Lionel Robert Wilberforce
    Vice-Chancellors of the University of Liverpool
    September 1927 - October 1936 (Sir) Hector James Wright Hetherington
    1937 John Leofric Stocks
    1947-1945 (Sir) Arnold Duncan McNair, [later 1st Baron McNair of Gleniffer]
    1945-1963 (Sir) James Frederick Mountford
    1963-1969 Winston Herbert Frederick Barnes
    1970-1976 Trevor Cawdor Thomas
    1977-1984 Robert Ford Whelan
    Acting Vice-Chancellor
    1984-1986 Professor Frederick Norbury
    Vice-Chancellors of the University of Liverpool
    1986-1991 [Sir] Graeme John Davies
    Acting Vice-Chancellor
    1991-1992 Professor John N Tarn
    Vice-Chancellors of the University of Liverpool
    1992-2002 Philip Noel Love
    2002- James Drummond Bone
Source: http://sca-arch.liv.ac.uk/ead/search?operation=search&fieldidx1=bath.corporateName&fieldrel1=exact&fieldcont1=vice-chancellor%20of%20the%20university%20of%20liverpool
MultipleTom (talk) 23:00, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vice Chancellor