Talk:List of UK tram systems

message: There has often been a discussion on "there is a catgeory, why do we need a list" and vice versa on Wikipedia.  The discussion has almost always resolved itself so far as "Both may co-exist because they perform different functions".
Since we are an encyclopaedia we are duty bound to create the best possible access paths to articles.  One such path is the category, another such path is a well constructed list.
Lists are also capable of expansion of the information contained in them whereas categories are not.
I have removed the  because I see that value in this list in addition to the category.  Fiddle Faddle 16:45, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What about the PROD notice not referring to a category but to both List of town tramway systems in the United Kingdom and :Category:Tram transport in the United Kingdom; original list and category? They both coexist fine at the moment. This list has no value in addition to List of town tramway systems in the United Kingdom and :Category:Tram transport in the United Kingdom. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 18:02, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then I suggest you submit each of them to AfD and see what the community as a whole says.  Let me know on my talk page of you do this, please.  I will consider each such proposal on its own merits at the time.  Cogent and coherent argument is more important than a statement "This list has no value in addition to...".  Stating something does not make it so.  Considering it and arguing for or against it does not make it so either, but it allows proper discussion and formation of opinion.  However, surely the creation of a resource is better than the destruction.  Perhaps it will meet your aspirations for Wikipedia better to enhance the article to ensure that it has the value that you do not, yet, appear to perceive it to have.  Fiddle Faddle 20:26, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have little issues List of town tramway systems in the United Kingdom and :Category:Tram transport in the United Kingdom. should you read me, you'll see it is List of Tram Systems I feel should be deleted. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 21:10, 22 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Another approach is to merge, of course.  It seems to me that would be a more reasonable option.  If you feel strongly about it be bold and do it.  Fiddle Faddle 20:59, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I will not be bold. Why? Because someone will put back where I'm sat and revert me, so are the ways of Wikipedia, we'll go through the lengthy procedure of agreeing before action is performed so no one screws around, including me. There is no reason to merge since List of Tram Systems possesses no exclusive nor unique information that is not already present on List of town tramway systems in the United Kingdom. Captain Scarlet and the Mysterons 21:10, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
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message: The page has been redirected, making this page obsolete? Bluegoblin7 10:51, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a history of what happened here.  Convention is to leave it as a record.  Fiddle Faddle 11:00, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah. Ok. I wasn't sure! Sorry, and thanks! Bluegoblin7 11:03, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We all get better at this as time passes.  Your idea was good, it was just not what is usual.  Fiddle Faddle 11:05, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I'm sure I will. Thanks! Bluegoblin7 12:38, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
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