Talk:Dog health

message: About the overweight Australian Cattle Dog pictured in this article: I did not put his picture into the article myself but he is my dog: Yoda. I'm sure people would be happy to know that his vet put him on a diet about a month after that picture was taken.  He isn't too happy about the diet but he is certainly looking healthier in the last 4 months since his diet changed. I was surprised to see his picture in this article since I uploaded it just as an ACD example but since his health was apparently a big enough concern to list him as an example of overweight dogs in this article I thought I'd give a health update on Yoda. He is losing weight and the vet is happy with how he is doing.
--Starladustangel 08:02, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's awesome news. (Dogs are NEVER happy about not being able to eat everything in sight, are they!) I did ask someone--I thought it was the uploader--about using the image as an example of an overweight dog because I didn't want to dreadfully offend anyone, and I remember asking whether we could have an "after" photo to go with the "before" photo after the diet and/or exercise has done its work. That would be perfect! Keep up the good work; you're doing the right thing for your dog and Yoda will be much happier for it in the long run. Elf | Talk 16:30, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Overweight dog

message: First, I am sorry I forgot to put in an edit summary.  It won't happen again.  I eliminated the part about necessary euthanization of unvaccinated dogs and added information about unvaccinated dog and cat quarantine after biting and being bitten.  I also eliminated the part about treating rabies in dogs and cats, because this is not done.
I do have a question as I am new here.  There really aren't any footnotes or references for most of the article.  Should I automatically add one for every edit?  I am a veterinarian and I can easily put in a reference to an appropriate textbook.  Thanks. --Joelmills 01:22, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do! WP has gotten more serious about citing references even in the 2 years that I've been editing, so it would be wonderful to have specific references for information.  Don't necessarily need one for every edit--but consider the article like a scholarly work where important info should be traceable.  And thanks for updating the info.  Elf | Talk 01:55, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rabies 

message: Changed heartworm migration information and eliminated reference to consumption of cardiac muscle. --Joelmills 01:55, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heartworm 

message: Since I'm not an expert in medical topics, I put everything that I couldn't quite figure out what to do with into "miscellaneous". Breaking the list into useful categories (like others went into "parasites", "eye problems", etc.) would probably be a helpful thing for readers, but I don't know where to begin.  Elf | Talk 05:29, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been looking at that, but I haven't gotten around to it.  I will soon, hopefully.  I'm still going through the entire list one at a time.  --Joelmills 05:45, 23 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I rearranged the lists and removed the two notes.  To answer them, I think nervous system is a fine heading, and CEPS and Scotty cramp are not the same thing.  Actually I'm not familiar with CEPS, but since they occur in two different breeds, I think they are different diseases.  --Joelmills 02:59, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sorting "Miscellaneous"

message: I hate to use cancer so much in this list, because cancer indicates malignancy.  All of the anatomic areas I listed have benign and malignant tumors, so cancer is not accurate.  Neoplasia would be better.  However, the existing articles all have cancer in the title, and I didn't want to put in dead links.  I used mammary tumor instead of breast cancer because there are just too many differences between dogs and humans in this instance.  Eventually I will redirect these to dog (or more likely animal) pages in order to give a fuller description.  That will have to wait until I can swipe the oncology book from work again.  --Joelmills 03:41, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cancer terminology 

message: First, I know I added a lot of red links, but I will create pages for those ASAP.  After that, we need to look at the pertinent breed pages and make sure they direct to the proper page, in case they use different terminology.  Most new blue links go to human disease pages, so as soon as I add dog info to them (or create a new page for the dog disease), I will add them to the dog health category.  Lastly, the list is now pretty long.  Should we go ahead and create a List of dog diseases page?  --Joelmills 01:38, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think so.  Elf | Talk 04:53, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: FYI, Thai Ridgeback now has a link to dermoid sinus cysts. Not sure which name is better...  Elf | Talk 04:54, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

text: FYI, Pug refers to "granulomatous meningoencephalitis" and "Pug Dog Encephalitis (PDE)"; current list here has "Pug encephalitis". Probably all of these shd link to same place when article is created.  Elf | Talk 18:22, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Yup. What I do in such a case is first edit this page to put a link the way I'd want it (something like See also List of dog diseases, click Show Preview, which makes the link active, then click the link to get to where you can edit the new page, then cut from here & paste there.  Elf | Talk 21:50, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh, and on the hemivertebrae, the Pug article identifies them as the same thing. Can you correct it so it's correct? I'm just not knowledgeable enough.  Thx.  Elf | Talk 21:53, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

text: Looks good to me. I just added a ref back to this article & categories.  Elf | Talk 04:02, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dog disease list 

message: An anon user keeps posting this text in the Labrador Retriever article. Is there any truth to this:
:Ethanol found in alcoholic beverages can save a labrador's life in the event of ethylene glycol poisoning due to accidental ingestion of anti-freeze. Ethanol binds more tightly than ethylene glycol at the active site of the enzyme alcohol dehydrogenase, therby limiting metabolism of the toxin and thus its harmful affects.
Elf | Talk 23:18, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Alcohol as treatment for antifreeze

message: I took a picture of a dog with a bandaged foot. Can I put it in this article - I find no obvious section to put it in. Right at the top? Alse see Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Mammals#dog_with_bandaged_foot
--- PER9000 17:05, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dog with bandaged foot

message: The "References" section is a bunch of external links and some of them may or may not have been used as references in the article.  It needs to be gone through by some of the article authors and made into proper references.
The EL section is attracting spam.  Cleaning up the references section to the citation format will make that less attractive to EL spammers. SchmuckyTheCat 03:06, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: External links/References/Footnotes

message: I think we should move this page, along with the dog antomany to the main dog page. From User:4444hhhh
:If anything, dog needs to be shorter - it is already 81 kb in size.  So I would say no to a merge.  --Joelmills 22:53, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge 

message: As I finally started the rewrite of this article today, I realized two things.  First, this is going to take longer than I expected, and second, it is going to result in an article that is so large as to be impractical.  I would suggest that two sections be split off: Toxic substances in dogs (or Canine toxicology) and Canine parasites (which can also be a subpage of veterinary parasitology).  Brief synopses can be left in this article.  Thoughts, anyone?  --Joelmills 22:26, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting off sections 

message: Why does my dog keep getting into the litter box?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.127.249.209 (talk) 19:09, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Litter Box 

message: There is a distinct lack of information in this article on Auto-immune diseases in dogs. I was thinking of creating one before the "other" section also perhaps changing that section and creating two more new ones titled "reproductive disorders" and "endocrine disorders". Does anyone have any thought about this proposal before I go ahead? Cheers, Keetanii (talk) 11:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  new section(s)? 

message: Chocolate is extremely toxic to dogs and even small amounts can have severe impacts on their health.  Chocolate contains Theobromine which is not toxic to humans but is in dogs even in very small amounts. Dark chocolates and baking chocolates have much higher levels of Theobromine in them which makes them even more toxic to dogs when compared to other chocolates.
I have added a citation for the toxicity of chocolate in large dogs, but looking earlier in the section I have concerns on two fronts:
*The conversion of 30 grams to 1/2 an ounce is clearly incorrect (14 g.is closer to 1/2 an ounce). As I am not sure what units were in the original source I have refrained from altering either and simply added a citation needed tag.
*I have added a citation needed tag to chocolate causing hallucinations.
If anyone can cast any further light it would be much appreciated.
FrankFlanagan (talk) 17:44, 2 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Chocolate

message: Please would someone expert add some information on dog toenail clipping, which many dogs regularly need, or a link to somewhere appropriate ? Thanks.  Darkman101 (talk) 14:19, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toenail Clipping 

message: >Their diet must consist of the appropriate mix of nutrients, carbohydrates, and proteins, with the appropriate mix to provide all of the minerals and vitamins that they need.
>Wild and feral dogs can usually get all the nutrients needed from a diet of whole prey and raw meat. In addition, the scraps often consist of fat rather than meat protein, which in excess is no better for dogs than it is for humans.
I'm sorry, but shouldnt there be some citations here? This implies that dietary fat is the concern.. in a carnivore.. which would eat only fat and protein in the wild. Does it not make more sense for carbohydrates to be the issue? Would you rather feed a dog a steak (fat and protein) or cake (carbohydrates and fat)? This is correlation, not causation, and I don't see very many fat wolves with their high protein high fat diets. Why would dogs, carnivores, require carbohydrates? 
I blame insulin.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.67.14.185 (talk) 18:46, 1 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Logical fallacies regarding dietary concerns 

message: The viral and other subsections of Diseases seems unnecessary wordy, given that each disease mentioned has its own list. I would suggest collapsing it to a list of links for each section and adding any pertinent data about each disease to that disease's article page. (Adelle Frank (talk) 16:14, 8 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Reduce Diseases section to just list of links

message: I removed zinc from toxic substances list as it is a misinterpretation by someone who added it.
The cited reference is for zinc phosphide. Overwhelming toxicity is from the phosphide, which is a pesticide.  Cited reference doesn't support any claim about toxicity of zinc or if swallowing US penny as a significant causation. 
"*Zinc toxicity, mostly in the form of the ingestion of US pennies minted after 1982, is commonly fatal in dogs where it causes a severe hemolytic anemia."
Cantaloupe2 (talk) 23:23, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Added talk reflist DferDaisy (talk) 01:25, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Zinc

message: Trimmed promotional contents added on October 11 by Absander, who had serially inserted ConsumerLab.com references into many articles, which is a clear indication of WP:Advert intended to sway opinion.  The failure/passing of consumerlab.com test is based on arbitrary standards that do not necessarily reference to any regulations, so in order words passing/not passing in their opinion, which have in this article as it disrupts objectiveness. pattern shows it is clearly non-neutralCantaloupe2 (talk) 18:38, 10 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Promotional contents

message: I moved the stuff below to the talk page.  It's not properly referenced (I doubt the holistic dog blog qualifies as a reliable source).  Please do not move this back into the article until all the claims have been verified and referenced to scientific studies.  So far it's just POV.
:Onions contain thiosulfate which causes hemolytic anemia in dogs (and cats). Thiosulfate levels are not affected by cooking or processing. Small puppies have died of hemolytic anemia after being fed baby food containing onion powder. Occasional exposure to small amounts is usually not a problem, but continuous exposure to even small amounts can be a serious threat. Also garlic contains thiosulfate, even if to a significantly lesser extent, and it is also known to cause diarrhea and vomiting. Small doses of garlic 5-6 times per week can improve dog health, since garlic is a natural antimicrobial and helps to prevent heart disease. It is stated that garlic also has repellent effects on fleas and ticks, especially in combination with brewer's or nutritional yeast.Garlic for dogs, and Richard Pitcairn, Dr. Pitcairn Complete Guide To Natural Health For Dogs And Cats
Preceeding comment is unsigned by IP
: I have restored the basic warning about onions, with a citation (although I am uncormfortable about the research on which the cited paper is based) and without the garlic promotion. It looks like a couple of hours work would enable someone to draw on a large amount of published material and cite this comprehensively. While I can respect deletionism, taking out this section in its entirity rather than trying to fix the citations is akin to taking down warning signs before construction works because the fine for killing or injuring a worker is stated incorrectly.
:There are also papers citing garlic as having negative effects but I do not time to deal with these now.
FrankFlanagan (talk) 19:20, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Added talk reflist DferDaisy (talk) 01:26, 11 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Onions 

message: I have heard that purebred dogs are slightly more susceptible to certain diseases. Should this be mentioned, if at all, and where should it be mentioned? 180.200.154.201 (talk) 11:40, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purebred dog susceptibility to diseases 

message: Hello All. I have just imported text that had been placed in the "Dog breed" article - where it does not belong - as an initial fix. Much of it appears to be unsourced. Please deal with it appropriately. William Harris • (talk) • 10:17, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section - Breed diseases