Talk:Benvenuto Cellini (opera)

message: I can't find a citation that gives the US premiere in 1965, but several sources indicate the Sarah Caldwell Boston 1975 production as the true US premiere.  I'll try to dig later, but any thoughts now?  Thanks, DJRafe 19:38, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO change it to the later date with the reference cited - it's more solid. It'll mean that if someone wants to say it's earlier, to change it they'll have to provide the source. Btw, thanks for working on this article :D Lethe 21:12, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Viking Opera Guide says the US premiere was 3 May, 1975 in Boston. --Folantin 07:40, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: US premiere

message: If one looks at the poster advertising the first performance (reproduced from Holoman's book), it can be seen that there was only one singer by the name of Wartel. In addition, Trévaux (a tenor) and Molinier (a baritone or bass?) sang minor roles. If I had to guess, I would say Trévaux sang Francesco, and Molinier sang Bernardino. AmadeusOnline seems to think that Molinier is a tenor, but he was more likely a baritone or bass. Check Robert Letellier's book on the operas of Meyerbeer . There are other contemporary sources which identify a French "baryton" Molinier who sang at provincial theaters in Ghent , Le Havre , and Liège . My suggestion is that we should generally try to verify information obtained from AmadeusOnline with independent sources. --Robert.Allen (talk) 10:28, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Minor roles

message: I added additional evidence to the article that four minor roles are probably listed incorrectly at AmadeusOnline. I would like to document the results obtained from that database here in case it changes in the future. (I feel it is important to document these differences as we find them.)
10 Settembre 1838, Lunedì
première (insuccesso) nel Théâtre de l'Académie Royale de Musique (Opéra, Salle de la rue Le Peletier) di Parigi di "Benvenuto Cellini" op. 23, opera semiseria (1° versione) in 2 atti e 4 quadri di Hector Berlioz, libretto di Armand François Léon de Wailly e Henri Auguste Barbier, dirige François-Antoine Habeneck {soprano Julie-Aimée-Josèphe Dorus-Gras (Teresa), mezzosoprano "en travesti" Rosine Stoltz (Ascanio), tenori Gilbert-Louis Duprez (Benvenuto Cellini), Molinier (Francesco) e Pierre-François Wartel (cabaretier), baritoni Jean-Étienne-August Eugène Massol (Fieramosca) e Ferdinand Prévost (Pompeo), bassi Nicolas-Prosper Dérivis (Giacomo Balducci), Louis-Émile Wartel (Bernardino/cardinal/officier) e Jacques-Émil Serda (cardinal Salviati/Clément VII), recitante (Colombine)}
--Robert.Allen (talk) 08:31, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Results from AmadeusOnline 

message: It would be nice to have this picture of the statue somewhere in Act 3 as another illustration, but I don't know how to compress it (as you can see, but it can be deleted). Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 20:56, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: How's this?  You can also change the size by putting 100px| (or any other number of px) after thumb - and/or left| if you want it on the left rather than the right. --GuillaumeTell 22:01, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much - I have copied this on the synopsis section. Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 22:45, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks fine (I moved it up a bit to eliminate white space).  There is, however, no Act 3.  On the other hand, I notice that in the notes there's some unsourced stuff about a Weimer [sic] version.  There's no source for the synopsis either, and it looks as if the article could do with a bit more attention. --GuillaumeTell 00:02, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, Act 3 was a mistake, but near the end when the cast is made is good. Someone who's an expert on the versions could improve it. I am trying to find reference for the vast Lyon production. Cg2p0B0u8m (talk) 00:28, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  picture for Act 3 

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