Talk:Ringworm

message: puppies rock  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.253.53.7 (talk) 00:18, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: can

message: Why is it that so many fat people have ring worm? does it reproduce faster when there's more fat to digest or something?
I discovered that ring worm is very sensitive to humidity.  If you are able to lower the humidity in your room, that can be all it takes to get rid of it.
I had  been getting ring worm every summer.  But, since I play sports several times a week, even with diligent application of antifungal medication I couldn't get ride of it.  I discovered that if I just lower the air conditioner setting so that my room temperature stays under 75 degrees F the ring worm would clear up within a week without using any medication. 
I just want to know if it is virus!!!! Answer ME!! please i need to know!!~ anonymous  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.80.178.136 (talk) 16:34, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  ringworm and fatties 

message: "Terbinafine is highly effective for Tinea Corporis. It treats itching, burning, cracking, and scaling that accompany this condition. It cures most ringworm. Do not use it for the nails or scalp. Apply it once a day (morning or night) for one week. It should heal up by then or a little after."
Wikipedia should not be providing medical advice as if it were a doctor, this could lead to all sorts of horrible things if the advice turns out to be wrong. A more generalised statement like "Terbinafine is often applied once a day as treatment, but consult your doctor" or similar would be far more appropriate than the above paragraph which sounds like absolute medical advice.
if no one has any objections I would like to reword this, im thinking something like:
"Terbinafine is highly effective for Tinea Corporis. It is often used to treat the itching, burning, cracking, and scaling that accompany this condition. It cures most ringworm, but should not be used for the nails or scalp. Treatment generaly involves application once a day (morning or night) for one week, but as always you should consult your doctor for specific treatment."
-- Mloren 13:02, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia is not a doctor 

message: Choose sex partners wisely and practice monagamy or abstinence.  Is there any reason this reference is here?  Is there any documented, referenced accounts of contracting ringworm from not practicing monagamy?  Or abstinence!?  Is this warning listed under chicken pox also, and other commonly spread infections among children? WilliamRoberts 10:10, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sexual Partners and Ring Worm? 

message: For about a week now I've had an itchy rash on my face. It consists of some large pimple-like lesions—they are red all the way through but my mom thinks they're ringworm and insists that we bleach the whole house to get rid of the spores (not to mention wash our towls after every single shower and wash our sheets every day and mop the floors every day till the bleach is COMING OUT OF OUR EARS). Is this really ringworm and is this REALLY necessary?? Scorpionman 03:38, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Symptoms 

message: :Image:Tinea_capitis.JPG doesn't show the disease very clearly. Jidanni 22:44, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree - there is no ring, no raised red margin and no central healling. A good picture of Tinea capitis, but it is not ringworm. Removed picture to Tinea capitis & Dermatophytosis David Ruben  Talk  03:27, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New initial image needed 

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I may be confused here, but no mention of fungal species causing ringworm is complete without the MOST COMMON cause of it, Microsporum canis.  Which despite its name fluorishes more commonly in CATS.
Also not mentioned as a (PRESCRIPTION) treatment is Itraconozale.  I have been told that oral medication is THE Front line, at least in domestic (Pet, not sure about food) animals.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.73.197.189 (talk) 15:14, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Microsporum canis? 

message: Mention what will happen if  is left untreated. Will it eventually "consume" the entire body?
Also mention the pros and cons of using those ointments vs. braving it out. Jidanni (talk) 01:15, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, see #What if untreated? Jidanni (talk) 04:19, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  if left '''untreated''' 

message: Please be careful when revamping articles.
I've noticed that some sources have been deleted, and now some of the content is actually false. (e.g. [http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Ringworm&oldid=52795700 Tinea is not always contagious, even though the actual article say so).
— Enigma55 (talk • email) 03:51, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of sources and references 

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 16:20, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: The first paragraph of the "treatment" section didn't sound like the usual sort of Wikipedia text:
The treatment for ringworm is one of the many effective topical antifungal creams, such as miconazole (Tinactin) or clotrimazole (Lotrimin). Several of these antifungal creams are now available without a prescription. Treatment may require several weeks. Only by treating for at least one week after the resolution of symptoms can one guarantee eradication. (Pets can be treated with the same medicines, but this is difficult, since they often don't get a rash with their infections. Contact your pet's veterinarian to get up-to-date information on the best treatment for animals).
So I googled a short phrase and found this page, timestamped July 1997:
http://www.drgreene.org/body.cfm?id=21&action=detail&ref=756
That page has this text:
The treatment for ringworm is one of the many effective topical antifungal creams, such as miconazole (Tinactin) or clotrimazole (Lotrimin). Several of these antifungal creams are now available without a prescription. Treatment may require several weeks. Only by treating for at least one week after the resolution of symptoms can one guarantee eradication. (Pets can be treated with the same medicines, but this is difficult, since they often don't get a rash with their infections. Contact your pet's veterinarian to get up-to-date information on the best treatment for animals).
--12.48.196.9 18:31, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. As per policy, I deleted the copyvio from 14th June edit on sight, in any case the subsequent paragraph says essentially the same thing. David Ruben  Talk  23:03, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible copyright violation 

message: Seems to me the article is missing a statement of what would happen if ringworm is untreated.  I represent a mother in a family law matter.  The separated father refuses to give their child medicine for ringworm, partly because he thinks children shouldn't get pills, partly to irritate mother.  I came here looking for what would happen without treatment, but was disappointed to see there was nothing.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.232.211.246 (talk) 00:43, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia does not provide legal or medical advice. Please see the general disclaimer. Gentgeen (talk) 14:07, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Gentgeen  is correct.  In fact, one of the reasons I have this article on my watchlist is to prevent medical advice from creeping into the article although I may have contribuited to the problem myself by linking to some statements of fact about prevention.  I would suggest that you simply google the terms 'Ringworm" and "untreated".  I just did and dozens of very helpful articles popped up.  Wikipedia is different from sites like WebMD in that it is an encyclopedia and not a self-help site.  As editors, we are supposed to only provide information and not instructions.  You should keep in mind that ANYONE can edit a wikipedia article and as a result, some things can slip in that may in fact be factually incorrect.  In the area of medicine and diseases, Folk remedies are often documented in order to cover the topic but such remedies shouldn't be presented in such a way as to advocate oa treatment or represent instructions for a treatment.   Your best bet is to have your client seek information from a qualified medical professional who can advise you about both medications and natural remedies. If you need further info for your own handling of the case, I suggest using the Google Books Search function.  That will give you published info, page numbers, ISBN numbers and so on in case you need hard copies of the info you find there. LiPollis (talk) 18:46, 29 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I added a very brief and referenced sentence on what will happen if left untreated under the paragraph on Treatment. It's no great mystery.  It was information implied in other parts of the article and available to anyone who can use google.  No further info is really necessary because the consequences of leaving it untreated depend on the type of ringworm, the area infected, the person's medical condition/history and much more. Such answers are better left to be found on medical websites or ideally, directly from your own doctor.LiPollis (talk) 16:44, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What if untreated? 

message: The "Prevention" section takes on a second person instructional tone, telling the reader what to do. We are an encyclopedia, we don't instruct, we inform. We also don't talk directly at our readers, third person is always preferred to second person tone. Gentgeen (talk) 14:05, 24 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Would you like to see the language corrected or the section removed? LiPollis (talk) 18:25, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks to the editors who restructured that section appropriately.  I did, however, have to remove some material promoting a product called gymnsoap since it's inclusion appeared to be soley for the purposes of advertising the product and did not add much to the discussion.LiPollis (talk) 16:15, 9 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second person instructional tone 

message: I removed the following unsourced comment which appears to be vandalism, since I could not find any source that actually suggests this, i.e. be searching Yahoo, etc:
"There is lots of cures for this kind of infection. The most common cure is dog urine. Doctors reccommend dog urine because there is a mineral that helps the ringworm not to spread any bigger than it is.It also helps decrease the size of the infection. It usually takes about 24 hours to heal after the urine is applied to the surface of the skin where the ringworm is located."
Lazarus666 (talk) 08:28, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks for taking care of that.  Unfortunately, I don't think that was straight vandalism.  You find all kinds of weird folk remedies for ringworm on the net and they usually involve the use of weak acids or in the opposite direction mild alkaline solutions.  The faulty logic is that these preparations will "burn" away the ringworm.  You also see remedies that use petroleum based products.  I have this article on my watchlist as part of a group I keep an eye on that are likely to have potentially harmful folk remedies added to the content.  Dog urine, being a mild acid would fit the  bill for a potential folk remedy for Ringworm.  In fact, urine is a common folk remedy for skin ailments.LiPollis (talk) 16:55, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed "dog urine" as treatment for ringworm 

message: == Headline text == ATHLETES FOOT
this disease is a nother form of ringworm and thus can be prevented with the same measures too!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.37.39.78 (talk) 22:47, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''''Bold text''''' athlete's foot 

message: I've removed this blurb from the article, put there by 168.169.135.48, mostly based on that it's appended to the article without any formatting, less because it's useless. It certainly doesn't seem to be vandalism - it's not pasted from another website as far as I can tell, either.
Maybe someone more knowledgable than I can work this into the article? Where it now, it obviously can't stay, it's both broken in formatting and prone to be overlooked; I'd clean it up and put it somewhere easier accessible, but I'm not really sure how to in this case.
:Ringworm is a fungi pathogen that is highly contagious and can be passed by many methods. The most common methods are skin to skin contact and using contaminated items such as hairbrushes, nailclippers, and believe it or not... underwear!
:Ringworm can affet many different parts of the body including the back, crotch, feet, chest, arms, face, and scalp. Ringworm can also affect the nails, in which case, the infection is much more difficult to cure. Tinea can also, and is more likely to, affect furry animals such as cats and dogs. When ringworm affects the skin, the generated symtoms are rash, inflammation, and itch. There are many different cures for ringworm the supposedly best, and most effective cures for skin ringworm are Lamisil, Diflucan, and Sporanox. These three medicines come is different forms such as cream, gels, and even spray-ons! And while these three medicines are non-perscription, there is one cure that works the best according to happy customers. Griseofluvin is a medicine used to eliminate the fungi pathogen. You do have to have a doctors note in order to get it though and you can eliminate the virus in under three weeks. There are many ways to avoid this disease including not sharing foods or cups, no sharing clothing, not sharing personal hygene products, and also almost anything to do with love can get you Ringworm. Kissing, hugging, and holding hands can all result in contamination of the area of contact. Sexual intercourse will almost guarentee your chance of getting Ringworm if your partner has it. For your pets, ways to aviod getting them contaminated are to keep them away from humid, infected enviornments such as a bog or a marsh, also keep them away from strays, as the animals are then more likely to have the disease.
-pinkgothic (talk) 02:06, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, wow, talk about extraneous. Sorry, case of blindness. Identical text (or I think it's the same, I've not compared it word for word) in talk page section above. Again, sorry about that. -pinkgothic (talk) 02:08, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed unformatted end 'section' from article 

message: This article has very few citations/references and overall doesn't seem to "read" like other articles about fungi. The language used is very simple and seems more like something I would read on the back of a package of antifungal medication than the kind of quality typical of Wikipedia. Chrisbrl88 (talk) 08:57, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: About a year ago, this was a much better article with lots of good references.  It will be difficult to reconstruct it it now that it's been gutted.LiPollis (talk) 00:41, 22 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article needs a TOTAL REWRITE 

message: Is there reallyany evidence that tea tree oil or antibacterial soap will do anything to prevent infection? And does anti-fungal soap even exist? Shoemaker's Holiday Over 200 FCs served 15:38, 25 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advice 

message: I have reworked the treatment section, removing much of the unsupported/uncited details and replaced with more typical clinical practice details on treatment durations (with accompanying sources per [{WP:MEDRS]]).
A new editor reverted back what is poorly sourced from http://www.health-up-online.com/2007/03/18/medications_to_treat_ringworm.html which is not a reliable source (as far as I can tell, anyone can selfpublish after registering).
In partuclar, this throwback includes following problems:
* concept of occlusion I have never seen in clinical practice (well perhaps a covering crep bandage to stop a toddler from scratching, but that is not part of teh active treatment).
* re "however if constantly touched it can leave a dark patch of skin where it had been" is nonsense - the ring worm infection itself, like any many other causes of skin irritation, may result in postinflammatory hyperpigmentation. 
* reverted back to the uncited statement "Most treatments should be continued for up to 14 days after the disease ceases to produce any visible symptoms", yet clinical practice is generally for just 7 days, per the secondary sources I provided. 
* "For instance, ringworm of the foot can spread to the toenails over the course of a few weeks if neglected" is getting the medicine confused. Ringworm is of course nothing special in terms of which fungi are involved, but rather a particular appearance of dermatophytosis (but not all fungal skin infections appear as a ringworm ring). The white macerated appearance seen in the web spaces of athelete's foot, might spread to the toe nails, but that is something for the athletes foot article to consider, and not this ringworm article dealling with raised rings that generally appear on the body rather than the feet (ringworm risks expanding, but would not be specifically considered a likely cause for onychomycosis).
* "less responsive to regular treatments if they spread to body areas such as armpits, hands, palms or crotch." I know of no evidence to suggest these sites harder to treat - indeed groin fungal infections usually respond just as well to miconazole or terbinafine creams.
I've WP:1RR back, but the above points should be discussed before further revision. David Ruben  Talk  02:31, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I certainly object. Tinea corporis is an exclusively human medicine term for dermatophytosis of body skin, usually that without hair. But ringworm is a more general term, often used in veterinary medicine, for dermatophytosis of (obviously) usually hairy skin. The spectrum of organisms which causes these differs somewhat, and certainly the treatment does. SBHarris 02:53, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Have merged into the more general Dermatophytosis as they are presented as synonyms. Agree with Sbharris in the tinea corporis refers to ring worm of the body.Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:22, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Unsupported treatment claims