Talk:Penélope Cruz/Archive 1

message: Is it just me or does the picture this page offers of Cruz horrible?  Its dark, you can't see her face, and it honestly could be anyone.  Who the hell knows how to upload here?  I don't, but I'd suggest a new pic of her!
: You're right, it's not a good picture (indeed, we upscaled a bad picture, making it worse). Somewhere I have a DVD of Jamón, jamón... (yeah, you guys know what I mean) -- Finlay McWalter | Talk 23:21, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: This is taken from shooting of the film "Elegy" and it isn't really appropriate to say she's out shopping with him.
22:26, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture with Kingsley

message: I'm still learning how to brighten up an image on Wikipedia. Some that look good on my machine turn out to be still too dark once uploaded. I'm going to replace the picture of Penelope Cruz with an adjusted version and see how it goes. --Chris 21:36, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, it's in place. Filename changed to "Cap001a.jpg". It's brighter, but not as bright as I'd prefer. (Maybe that matches the movie; I haven't seen it.) --Chris 21:48, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree.  Note that we may only use freely-licensed images to depict living people, though, so no film screenshots and no promotional images.  --Yamla 00:48, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I found something on the internet, but it's so awful, that trust me, the drawing is better. -Patstuarttalk|edits 00:55, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That drawing is so awful, any image is better than that! --Gunsfornuns 14:08, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Improving the image

message: Immediate Cleanup of this page is required. Either archived for the sake of saving the work, but I can only find two secions regarding the picture and another subject are clean and follow any guidelines or serve a purpose. I do not maintain this page but this article needs immediate work. --OMG LAZERS 10:07, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I removed it up. There's no point to litering the talk page with that. -Patstuarttalk|edits 00:39, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Aww I was just learning how to archive a talk page.  I agree however that getting rid of it is the best option. --Dmz5 00:40, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Talk Cleanup 

message: If you read her bio, Penélope Cruz was born in Spain. She has lived almost her entire life in Europe. When do you suppose she would have moved to Racine, Wisconsin for five years? That whole paragraph reads like vandal heaven. The Conservatorio Nacional is in Spain. Kristina Kota Kochool (please see initials) ???? There is no such place and only shows up in sites that mirror Wikipedia. To the best of my knowledge, she has never lived in New York either which why that whole paragraph looks like it was dreamed up.  Ronbo76 02:01, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot seems to be in the imdb article: . I hope they didn't copy from us or from anyone who copied from us. Patstuarttalk|edits 02:57, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paragraph "Early Life" reads like it was made up - Kristina Kota Kochool (?) and the Conservatorio Nacional in [[Racine, Wisconsin]]??? 

message: Why is the friendship between Penelope Cruz and Salma Hayek notable?
:They are two of the top Hispanic female stars. They have acted together and share a deep friendship which is openly displayed by themselves in the media. Supposedly Hayek is working on other joint projects. Hope this helps. Ronbo76 18:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently, someone just took it upon themselves to remove it anyway....Gotta love that. Abalu 04:34, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Friendship?

message: I recently did a large cleanup of this article, and sourced everything I could find (it was hitherto totally unsourced). However, I found a lot of the facts to be totally unsourceable except by one major site: An imdb.com bio. However, I'm willing to bet that they actually took a lot of the information from us. Does anyone think we should get rid of anything, or at least place  tags that can't be unsourced outside of that side? I am of the opinion we should. Patstuarttalk·edits 22:14, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: IMDb is not a reliable source, so feel free to remove the passages.  This is about a living person, and while the information may or may not be controversial, it can be removed until someone finds a real source for the information.  The Behnam 22:30, 12 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced information 

message: Theres NO WAY on Earth that she was born in 1974....
I remember seeing videos of Spanish electropop group Mecano in early 1989 and she already dated one of the band members (dating a popstar at 14?) and appeared on video as a teen girl( but not soo juvenile, she looked like 17-18)
My guess is that Ms Cruz was really born in 1970-71 but as usual with most female stars she wants to remove years from her! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pikaia (talk • contribs) 20:28, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Her true age?? 

message: She has got to be older than this article claims.  I've seen the video for La Fuerza Del Destino, released in 1988, and she definitely looks a lot older than 14.  If you don't believe me, go see the video on YouTube.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.246.153.217 (talk) 01:57, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I agree about her age being unrealistic 

message: I do not think Penelope is "fluent" in any language but Spanish (and perhaps French). She has said she learnt the scripts in Italian "by sounds" and her English is far from fluent!
:I can assure you that she speaks Italian. She was one of the guest at the 57th San Remo Italian Music and it was impressive to see how easily she answered all the interview questions in Italian.--ant of A 17:19, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language skills 

message: She had a relationship with Tom Cruise...can somebody write on this? thx  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nao1163 (talk • contribs) 02:30, 29 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal Life

message: The reference to the mascara commercial doesn't seem significant, and it's unsourced, so I'm removing.
Gerardw (talk) 14:40, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Controversy"

message: She's totally hot, but come on, third party info says she's been eating bacon and a burger, so uh, it ain't disputed, it's proven false. I am removing the tag until she asks me out. Or we get a source saying otherwise. Gatesofawesome! (talk) 23:10, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Not Vegetarian

message: This article doesn't mention her or her family's religion. NNDB states that she is a Buddhist. Is that true, and if so, is she a convert to Buddhism? Is she from a Catholic family? Werdnawerdna (talk) 10:13, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Religion

message: Are the Wiki geeks just WAITING by their computers for the Oscars to be announced just to have that pseudo-honor of being the first to update someone's Wiki bio page?
Oh please what does it matter?
Why doesn't somebody add "Academy Award-winning" before "Spanish actress" in the brief first sentence?  It sounds better to refer to an actor's Oscar win in the *very first* sentence.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 140.247.133.122 (talk) 23:46, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Or, maybe the handful of Goyas are considered more important to a Spanish actress? Kbthompson (talk) 23:56, 25 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, putting awards in the lead sentence isn't congruent with MOS:FILM and WP:NPOV. She has a myriad of awards and putting them all in the lead sentence is impossible, while choosing the one that any given editor would pick is based on a point of view. It's in the lead, it does not need to be in the opening sentence. The opening sentence should only briefly cover who the person is and why they are notable. Penelope Cruz isn't notable because she won an award, she won an award because she is a notable actor. Wildhartlivie (talk) 00:15, 26 February 2009 (UTC)

text: I was being rhetorical, it was not a serious suggestion. Kbthompson (talk) 09:45, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I realize that, but I also thought that it was time to explain why. It's been a week-long battle to keep this out of the lead sentences of a lot of articles! Wildhartlivie (talk) 20:44, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Academy Award

message: im cleaning up the entry for number 883. it mentions a tattoo cruz had in 2001. here is the link: . im not up on this, but if someone wants to add it that knows its still there go ahead. it doesnt belong on a disambig page if its not refd. ill leave the link on the article 883 (disambiguation), so please remove that link if you dont include this inarticle. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 00:08, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  883 

message: They just said on the Academy Awards that her birth name was Agnes something. Not sure if it was a joke or not. 75.252.110.254 (talk) 01:46, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it was a joke, and people are not understanding it very well; suggesting semi-protection. -Happy5214 (talk) 01:50, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: has reverted addition of the Razzie Award to the Filmography table and cites consensus at WP:ACTOR. While I could find discussion and consensus on removing navbox templates, I could not find any mention of discouraging their mention in filmographies, awards lists, or text of the article. Can you please cite the discussion that produced this consensus? Thanks. Elizium23 (talk) 22:41, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Razzie awards 

message: I find it very offensive that her sister Monica Cruz is not mentioned in this section, she is not mentioned at all in the article about Penelope. The physical body of Monica is captured multiple times in this movie, and whether the makers of this movie want to credit her for her work or not I find irrelevant to those who want her information removed. I find it further insulting that you do not reason your actions! Please respond!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.202.216.178 (talk) 00:37, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have some reliable sources for these assertions? Jezhotwells (talk) 07:36, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Regarding Pirates of the Caribbean: At Stranger Tides & Monica Cruz

message: In "Filmography" section, the movie "Nero Fiddle" should be renamed.
The actual name is "To Rome With Love"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.52.55.36 (talk) 20:40, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Done Elizium23 (talk) 22:36, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Nero Fiddle" 

message: Didn't Penelope have any disorders? Like For example Obsessive compulsive disorder.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.48.55.87 (talk) 19:03, 18 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disorders 

message: Croatian writer Giancarlo Kravar: Penelope Cruz in February this year announced that with her husband Javier Bardem (44) expecting a second child, and should soon be born. In April next year, will turn 40 and then play the Bond girl in the 24th sequel of the most famous secret agent in the world. Beautiful Spaniard will thus become the oldest Bond girl in the history of the popular film series. There is a 'flattering title' ever wore Honor Blackman (87) which is the 1962nd in the film 'Goldfinger' played Pussy Galore. She was then 39 years old. The new James Bond film will cost 100 million pounds, according to the Croatian daily 24 hours.78.2.69.140 (talk) 15:12, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Penelope Cruz the oldest Bond girl 

message: What a horrible picture! It would be great if someone can change the main picture  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.3.136.164 (talk) 19:19, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not that bad. --BwB (talk) 19:23, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia depends on freely licensed contributions from editors like yourself. Feel free to take your own photo and upload it here under a compatible Creative Commons license. Elizium23 (talk) 19:24, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: May I point out that we do have a new picture, taken by myself earlier this week: :Image:Penélope Cruz TIFF 2012.jpg... Tabercil (talk) 05:47, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It is kind of dark, but it is higher resolution; what exactly are the problems with the current photo? It seems alright to me. Elizium23 (talk) 17:22, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Just add it. I don't get why we need a discussion, since it's a more recent image and the quality is better. --37.104.175.228 (talk) 14:51, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: A discussion to establish consensus is highly recommended before changing an image in an infobox because the image should be of high quality, accurately represent the article subject, and as stable as possible, so that people are not confused when they reach the article multiple times. By all means, add more photos to the body of the article, that requires no discussion, just editorial discretion. It is good for Wikipedia articles to be well-illustrated. Changing the infobox image every three months accomplishes very little. Elizium23 (talk) 15:27, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, the 2012 photo is much better. It's higher quality and more recent.JanderVK (talk) 09:06, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: Explaining my edit, this section seemed to be oddly ordered. It started with insignificant detail and progressed to more significant detail which is more tabloid-like than encyclopedia-like. Likewise, the paragraph about her husband started with a mention of dating and then later gets around to the fact that they are married and have a family.
Lastly, there was a cited mention of her wanting to adopt children.  As of this edit that is an eight-year old reference and she has given birth to two children since then so it doesn't seem appropriate to leave in place in a biography.  Arbalest Mike (talk) 14:44, 29 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Life 

message: What's is so controversial about standing up for those being slaughtered in a genocide by the IDF Zionists.  This is fact not opinion.  Judaism rejects Zionism and fascism.  World Jewry is on the side of the Palestinians and P Cruz  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:7:8500:982:D184:8B97:800F:74A6 (talk) 18:44, 30 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Unician ∇  07:22, 31 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: e/c If we have sources, then they should be inserted, otherwise, a controversial section like that will be removed per WP:BLP -Roxy the dog (resonate) 10:04, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Just like that !!! -Roxy the dog (resonate) 10:13, 1 August 2014 (UTC)

text: , no one is edit-warring, as per the article history.  A previous editor claimed a particular word in the text as problematic, and the editor who had written that word retracted it.  How about that compromise as a starting point?  (compromise version here)  Unician ∇  20:07, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing can be added here without proper sources. As I say, bring your proposals and your sources here. --John (talk) 20:19, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Without proper sources I agree with.  Furthermore, I do not think it counts as a "controversy".  All political opinions could essentially be considered controversial because all political opinions are bound to be contradicted by someone with an opposite political perspective.  -Xcuref1endx (talk) 19:36, 13 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy? 

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