Talk:Shilpa Shetty

message: She was born in Tulu Nadu not Tamil Nadu
fix this up right now  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.110.134.168 (talk) 03:18, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tulu Nadu 

message: This article has quite a few problems
*Biggest is undue weight. Acting is only about 20% and we have more on the mafia thing just by itself and tons and tons about a stupid reality TV show. The account is also heavily focussed on 2006-07 incidents.
*Lead needs to be bigger, it is very small compared to the body.
*Refs need to be filled out with dates of publication, author where applicable
*Refs need to be formatted consistently. The date format is not consistent
*Career needs to discuss what type of an actresss she is. At the moement it is mainly just a list of films and results. There is nothing about style.
*Home viewer polls should not be included. They can be rorted by ppl voting over and over again.
*The awards list needs to have proper references not just inline links.
*POV about "hits" - that is the POV of the guy who made the website. Some films made little money but were "hits" and some made more money but were "flops" - there was no objective measure in this, simply quote the takings or quote a commentator
*Also, in the first paragraph of the career, eg, there are only a few stats and noms that are reffed. The other stuff is unreffed.
*"critics consider as her best performance so far" - there was only one critic there!
*Some one line sentences need to be mreged. some short parts unreffed
*Love info gossip should not really be in the middle of the career info.
*To be honest, I don't think the ToI should be used as a reference for anything serious, and that includes mafia allegations. eg, see User:Blnguyen/Times of India
Blnguyen  (bananabucket) 08:10, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA failed 

message: Can anyone explain what does :Category:People from XYZ mean? Some tell me that the People from Category should be used only when the person has atleast been born there. Although Shilpa Shetty was born in Tamil Nadu, she finished her schooling, graduation from Mumbai. She spent almost her entire life in Mumbai. I don't think using :Category:People from Mumbai is incorrect. Kensplanet (talk) 18:15, 16 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, I thought :Category:People from Mumbai is added because she acts in bollywood films(mumbai based). 
I've restored the categories. C21Ktalk 07:37, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Categories 

message: Shilpa has had a rhinoplasty - citation here http://www.metro.co.uk/fame/article.html?in_article_id=41925&in_page_id=7. The Metro newspaper http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_(Associated_Metro_Limited) is owned by Associated Newspapers, part of the Daily Mail group, and they would not publish anything libellous, nor would it remain on their website for two years. Shilpa began her career as a model and is world famous at least in part due to her looks - I believe this information therefore belongs firmly in an encyclopaedic article on her. In addition, as the article states, she makes no attempt to conceal the rhinoplasty. Furthermore, the edit clearly conforms to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:RS. Despite having added the citation above, the other editor has rejected it and has now had the article locked, citing my edits as 'vandalism'. This seems something of an abuse of the protection process.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.149.199.17 (talk) 03:34, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed you had listed for a third opinion at WP:3O.  You are correct that the page has been semi-protected.  This means that you need to create a user account in order to continue editing.  This was done because there was evidently a reasonable suspicion that you were vandalizing the article.  On behalf of all involved, I certainly apologize if this seemed drastic to you.  You might get a better response in the future though, if you discuss controversial changes at the talk page (here) before making them.  Now, if you would clearly indicate what you would like to add (actual text), and the independent secondary sources used to verify them, we can have a discussion over their propriety.  Thanks for your valuable contributions! —Matheuler 04:32, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

text: User:Shshshsh was the one who reverted the edits. I've left a comment on their talk page about this discussion. For what it's worth, the metro.co.uk article seems to be a reliable source. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 15:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: First, it is just not notable in a BLP. Nose job is a personal thing and mentioning it would be invading her privacy. Moreover, the metro newspaper does not have Shetty confirming these rumours, and I don't think she would want to confirm such a thing even if it was true. If a source with Shetty admitting this rumour can be cited for that, it will make much more sense. Shahid • Talk2me 16:09, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Let me first state that I'm totally independent on this article; I was the one who removed the 3O request that was open for this. Really, I just wanted to get some dialog going here so that the anon IP stops readding their request. The link itself says "A spokesperson for the star confirmed she went under the knife, saying: "She has always been open and honest about the fact that she has had a nose job."" I think that pretty much confirms it. Having said that, I agree that it shouldn't be included as it's not really relevant; there's no distinct benefit in mentioning her nose job in the article. And the way the anon IP included it in the article by putting it after the line about her first getting started at 16 is sort of synthesis, since the article doesn't explicitly state when she had it done or in what context. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 16:56, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe it is highly relevant - she started her career as a model, and is cast in films in no small part due to her looks, and has acquired endorsements similarly. Where it should be inserted within the article can be up for discussion. But to say something is private - as the above editor says, she herself acknowledges it is not: and in addition, were this the case, upbringing and personal life would not be included by the same token. They are no less private, certainly. To summarise, I believe it is strongly relevant. To leave it out of an thorough article smacks of bias. There have already been problems with this article in this area, seen under the discussion heading 'biased article', so if anything, the article needs to be protected from overzealous and biased filtering of factual information pertinent to the subject's career. A rhinoplasty for an actress/model lauded for her looks is highly relevant. I might add that it is this kind of zealotry - making it as difficult as possible to contribute to Wikipedia (note that my edits were reported as vandalism and the page locked as a result) - that puts one off trying to contribute (perhaps the editor's aim). 78.146.173.24 (talk) 17:11, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For awhile your edits were reverted because you were using non-reliable sources, and indeed, even your last edit still used them. Don't just keep piling on references, especially if they're non-reliable. Biography articles for living people have particularly stringent criteria, especially on privacy. Your argument about bias goes both ways, though - perhaps including the information would be pushing some sort of bias as well. Per BLP, "When in doubt, biographies should be pared back to a version that is completely sourced, neutral, and on-topic." In this case, I think it would be best to leave it out. And even if none of that was true, there is a consensus on this article to keep it out. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 17:48, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "When in doubt, biographies should be pared back to a version that is completely sourced, neutral, and on-topic." The information is completely sourced, neutral, and on-topic. I would love to hear how it contravenes, in any way, any of these three criteria. Please respond. I think the case needs to be made to keep the information out, rather than in. As regards bias - I think it is admirable that she has spoken out about her surgery, and I believe it is something for both fans and perusers of general interest. I'm still unclear who the consensus to keep the info out was between, and for what reasons. If it was for reasons of privacy, I would have thought the statement, from the citation: "She has always been open and honest about the fact that she has had a nose job. It's quite a normal thing for Bollywood actresses to have done. She had it done at the start of her career" would put paid to this. Once I know a solid reason for the information being kept out - I will indeed move on - I do not think one has been given. 78.146.173.24 (talk) 19:34, 4 September 2009 (UTC)

text: Thanks Matheuler. As soon as someone tells me how this information is in any way not 'completely sourced, neutral, and on-topic' I'll be off. I'm still unclear who the consensus to keep the info out was between, and for what reasons. If it was for reasons of privacy, I would have thought the statement, from the citation: "She has always been open and honest about the fact that she has had a nose job. It's quite a normal thing for Bollywood actresses to have done. She had it done at the start of her career" would put paid to this. Once I know a solid reason for the information being kept out - I will indeed move on. Not much to ask I don't think. Thanks. 78.146.173.24 (talk) 20:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rhinoplasty and citation 

message: I wanted to make a brief statement to the anonymous IP user.  Since they are editing from multiple IP's it is unclear whether they have a central talk page.  Thus, I'll comment briefly here.  I understand that it can be frustrating to see other editors disagree with you, and decide not to include your suggestions.  But consider taking a break from this article and working on other areas.  You will find that you can make valuable contributions to this encyclopedia.  On this specific content issue, I agree that it is somewhat borderline -- that is, both sides make valid points.  But since two experienced editors disagree with you, you should consider moving on.  Thanks again for your work. —Matheuler 18:33, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Matheuler. As soon as someone tells me how this information is in any way not 'completely sourced, neutral, and on-topic' I'll be off. I'm still unclear who the consensus to keep the info out was between, and for what reasons. If it was for reasons of privacy, I would have thought the statement, from the citation: "She has always been open and honest about the fact that she has had a nose job. It's quite a normal thing for Bollywood actresses to have done. She had it done at the start of her career" would put paid to this. Once I know a solid reason for the information being kept out - I will indeed move on. Not much to ask I don't think. Thanks. 78.146.173.24 (talk) 20:00, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recommendation for Anon IP 

message: I met Shilpa Shetty when I was in Mumbai on the shootings of DUS. She is 5'8 and iam 5'11.So please change the height of Her from 5'10 to 5'8.122.163.110.182 (talk) 08:44, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We appreciate your contribution to this encylopedia.  However, Wikipedia does not allow original research.  Therefore, you will need to find independent sources (such as news articles) that verify your comment.  Thanks again! —Matheuler 23:47, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  5'8 

message: Dear Editors! There has been a discussion on India Portal related to mentioning of caste of subjects. The point is that mentioning caste of people, who have nothing to do with their caste, is found to be unnecessary by few editors. Hence the caste of the subject person needs to be deleted from the biography. I am not deleting the caste as of now but am only posting this here so that the regular editors of this article are well aware of it beforehand and no edit-wars take place. For details of discussion held on the portal please refer Wikipedia_talk:Noticeboard_for_India-related_topics#Mentioning_caste_of_Individuals. Your views if any are welcome there or even here.  And.... as the reasons of exclusion of caste pointed out were "irrelavant to notability of subject person", "privacy of the subject person", "inclusion of caste is like branding individuals", etc. other information included in the article which also fall under these cases will also be removed after discussions. Examples of it included religion, non-notable spouse's and children's and parents' information, previous occupation, lived in places, non-notability related educational qualification, etc.  Your views on this are also welcome here or at the India portal. -Animeshkulkarni (talk) 13:30, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Not here, please. There is a community discussion taking place at WT:INB and I would advise people to read the entire discussion before forming an opinion because the above summary is incorrect. Nothing more need be said here. - Sitush (talk) 01:43, 4 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Mentioning Caste

message: Under the Richard Gere kissing incident section, there is the following snippet: The STAR News office was also attacked. The protests did not take any violent turn and ... I'm wondering how the offices can be ATTACKED in a non violent way. I understand that people can be attacked non violently (in the press for example), but physical property? Would it make more sense in this context to use the phrase 'Targetted in protest' or is it in fact not true that the protests WERE violent towards the office... ie: vandalised and windows smashed etc? MrZoolook (talk) 20:36, 15 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: After taking a look, there were a number of problems. First, the source did not verify the STAR News office attack, and other points were similarly not in the soruce. Second, 1 sentence was copied verbatim from the source. I've reorganized the section and moved the ref. Qwyrxian (talk) 22:41, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The STAR News office attacked in a non-violent way... how? 

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message: Hello editors, I have nominated Shilpa Shetty filmography for FL. Please leave your comments on nomination page. Much thanks.--25 CENTS VICTORIOUS ☣ 19:03, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
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message: * Cine Blitz interview --Nicholas Michael Halim (talk) 06:23, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
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