Talk:Incorporation (linguistics)

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I want to thank everyone who has worked on this page before and let you all know of a couple of changes that we will be making to this page in the coming weeks. My group members and myself are enrolled in a 300 level syntax course and are doing a final project on noun incorporation. We plan to add to the “syntax of noun incorporation” section of this page by adding further explanations, examples, and syntax trees. We will also be adding further subsections to the “syntax of noun incorporation” section on the languages “English,” “Mohawk,” “Yucatec Mayan”, and “Frisian.” This may involve incorporating some information from the original individual language wikipedia pages into these subsections.
We are open to any suggestions you may have and Thank you again for your work thus far!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by NEbbutt (talk • contribs) 20:10, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there as source for this statement "If a language participates in productive compounding it does not allow for incorporation. An example of a compounding language is German. Respectively, if a language participates in incorporation it does not allow for productive compounding." 2600:1700:E450:3A30:3F40:F1:5F5F:64C2 (talk) 19:04, 25 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I also found this statement dubious, many Native American, such as in Central America (most Mayan languages and Nahuatl dialects) allow both extensive incorporation and compounding. 94.109.35.225 (talk) 12:36, 2 May 2023 (UTC)
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”If a language participates in productive compounding it does not allow for incorporation. An example of a compounding language is German.”
What exactly is meant here: verb compounding, or alternatively any compounding?; productive incorporation, or alternatively any incorporation at all?
NL (Dutch) has noun compounding in such everyday words as:
* ziektekostenverzekeringsmaatschappij = ziekte (illness) + kosten (costs) + verzekering (insurance) + s (“connector”) + maatschappij (company) = health insurance company;
* handschoenen = hand (hand) + schoenen (shoes) = gloves;
* wetenschapsjournalist = wetenschap (science) + journalist (journalist) = science reporter.
And there are also verbs with incorporated nouns:
* NL “stofzuigen” = “stof” (dust) + “zuigen” (to suck) = to vacuum [Ik stofzuig de kamer. = I vacuum the room.; note that the transitivity of the verb “zuigen” carries over to the similarly transitive verb “stofzuigen”.]
* NL “raadplegen” = “raad” (council) + “plegen” (commit, carry out) = to consult
DE (German) similarly has:
* DE “staubsaugen” = “staub” (dust) + “saugen” (to suck) = to vacuum
Whether noun incorporation in NL (and/or DE) is productive, I do not know.Redav (talk) 13:56, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
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