Talk:Pan Twardowski

message: Why is there a children's book about a necromancer who sold his soul to the devil and met a gruesome end? Not exactly children's book material, if you ask me, but I really don't have any idea on how the polish think in this matter... 81.233.196.49 (talk) 17:11, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Making children books all nice and fluffy is a 20th century invention.  Just compare to the original brothers Grimm stories: kids thrown out of the house by their own mother during a famine, child pregnancy, cannibalism (also due to famine), kids dying to exposure, murders left and right.  These stories were written in 19th century -- you can expect medieval stuff to be even less tame.KiloByte (talk) 23:38, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Children's Book

message: "Pan" is used in Polish as "Mr." or "Sir" would be used in English. Uzytkownik (talk) 00:52, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: For this reason I think translating this all throughout the article would be a good idea.KiloByte (talk) 23:38, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sort of like Sir Quixote or Mrs. Butterfly? — Kpalion(talk) 09:37, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Translation

message: One version of legend is when devils took the Twardowski he recall a pray from his childhood. He started praying next to Moon so when the devils run away he was left on Moon. Uzytkownik (talk) 00:52, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Fate

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message: The article's present title, "Sir Twardowski", doesn't sound right in English. In English, one attaches "Sir" to a man's given name ("Sir Isaac") or to his complete name ("Sir Isaac Newton") but not to his surname alone ("Sir Newton").
On account of the Polish language's idiosyncratic use of "pan" in this kind of context, and because Twardowski's given name is unclear, the article would be better titled simply in the Polish manner: "Pan Twardowski". 
Accordingly, I propose that the article be moved to that title: to "Pan Twardowski".
Nihil novi (talk) 10:53, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd support such a WP:RM, go ahead. Quick query on GScholar: "Sir Twardowski" Polish: 1 hit. "Sir Twardowski" Polish: 31. "Pan Twardowski" Polish: 233. Quite clearly we are usising the least popular name, so WP:COMMONAME argument should prevail. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:21, 5 December 2023 (UTC)

text: PS. Actually this was moved two years ago without discusison, so it is eligible for speedy renaming back under Wikipedia:Requested_moves#Requests_to_revert_undiscussed_moves. And WP:TROUT for the edito rwho moved it without discussion to an unpopular name (). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 10:23, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Pan Twardowski