Talk:Creek War

message: the article shows that Andrew Jackson was a Colonel at the time of the war, and that he caused Major General William Cocke to be arrested. I suppose there is something wrong here.  Who can correct the ranks or actions?  Thanks Hmains 03:51, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Military ranks, arrest, and help

message: When I expanded this article I considered using footnotes to provide detailed page references to my sources. However without automatic numbering that would have been very cumbersome to set up and maintain. I finally decided to use footnotes only for direct quotes and to include my other page references as hidden comments at the end of each paragraph. Thus my edit to the Notes section. I didn't delete the new notes. I just hid them for the time being. Vern Reisenleiter 10:41, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Footnotes

message: I have changed the particulars of this Battle in response to my readings by Ehle as well as this web site: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cmamcrk4/crkwr2.html 
I have not read the sources originally sited in the article but I am interested in a discussion on the topic. --Brian 08:16, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Battle of Burnt Corn

message: A rewrite of this article is available for review here. I still have a little bit more work to do on the subsection on the Georgia and Mississippi militia. Plus clean up.
I had originally intended to put in a notes section, but now have second thoughts.
Please use the discussion page there for comments/suggestions.
:Vern Reisenleiter 22:47, 17 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Vern Reisenleiter 18:12, 2 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Revised article

message: U.S. Strength of 7,000 is from Mahon, "The War of 1812" (1972) p. 240 and represents the total number of E and W TN, Georgia, and Missippi combatants who had entered Creek territory by the end of 1813.
Red Stick strength of 4,000 is from Leckie, "The Wars of America" (1981) p. 275
The Upper Creek were never able to concentrate more than 1,000 of their warriors.
Will eventually get around to adding References to this article.
:Vern Reisenleiter 02:41, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Keep up the good work! --Kevin Myers 04:54, July 31, 2005 (UTC)
i dont know y its called this  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.68.65.158 (talk) 18:27, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Strength Estimates

message: I'm new to this, thus the questions.
After the article about the war, there are sections that provide boigraphical information about three individuala; Peter McQueen, Menawa, and Benjamin Harrison. Stubs exist for the first two, and there is a full write up for Harrison. Shouldn't these sections be deleted after transfering non-redundant information to the other pages?
Do I need anyone's concurrence, or can I just go ahead and do it?
:I concur that you should just go ahead and do it! --Kevin Myers 02:00, July 29, 2005 (UTC)
:Thanks, I appreciate the quick response. --Vern Reisenleiter 16:56, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: A question on procedure

message: There are some nice images in the article on the Horseshoe  Bend website but I did not copy them as I am not sure of their status and what conditions the National Park Service used them under. Fred Bauder 13:30, 3 Jan 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: The use of flags to represent Indian nations in the infobox is anachronistic at best. It's important to bear in mind that these nations did not use flags in the 19th century, except when individual leaders appropriated the flag of a European ally. The actual flags displayed here are historically inaccurate. I can't speak to the history of the Cherokee flag (although it is probably post-Removal) but the Creek flag is supposedly associated with the short-lived Muskogee Republic proclaimed by William Augustus Bowles and allies. It is not by any stretch of imagination the same polity involved in the Creek War (on either side). Is it necessary to have a flag in the infobox? Is there some sort of placeholder we could use instead? Maybe this issue has already been addressed in another military history context. -- Alarob 18:23, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indian flags 

message: An anonymous user deleted two of the weakest passages in the article (one of them based on a historical novel by John Ehle). Unfortunately, both had to do with the "Red Sticks," and the result is an even less comprehensive article. It is unfortunate that the deleted passages were not instead edited to bring them up to date with current scholarship. -- Rob C (Alarob) 15:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  9 October 2006 changes 

message: This article's assertion that this war is sometimes considered to be part of the War of 1812 would make more sense if Tecumseh's role in encouraging the Red Stick faction were mentioned somewhere in this article. --arkuat (talk) 20:29, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Role of Tecumseh 

message: This article does not yet reflect the most current reliable sources (and actually makes frequent references to a work of historical fiction, Ehle's Trail of Tears). Even the most notable older works are missing. Suggestions (and Anne E. Gometz's excellent online Creek bibliography has more):
*Waselkov, Gregory A. A Conquering Spirit: Fort Mims and the Redstick War of 1813-1814. 2006. 
*Martin, Joel. Sacred Revolt: The Muskogees' Struggle for a New World. 1993. 
*Halbert, H.S., and T.H. Ball. The Creek War of 1813 and 1814. 1895. Available online at Humanities Web and rootsweb.
These are books that are specifically about the war. Many other articles and books on the Creeks could be mentioned for their informed treatment of the war. -- Rob C. alias Alarob 00:02, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Books on the Creek War 

message: No one has responded to concerns about the so-called Creek Nation flag. I am removing it from the infobox again, and would appreciate a discussion of the issue rather than a revert without discussion. Thanks. I'm glad to agree to using it if its genuineness can be established in reliable sources. -- Rob C. alias Alarob 16:45, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flags 

message: If anyone is more knowledgeable about this subject than me, it would be fitting to include a refernce to Coffee Road, a supply trail created by John E. Coffee during this war.  LinguistAtLarge  18:43, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coffee Road 

message: Someone thought it was a good idea to edit the "Opposing Forces" section to rubbish. I don;t have the correct information to undo it, if it can;t be undone, it should be deleted.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.73.116.191 (talk) 05:34, 15 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undoing Vandalism 

message: I didn't see any mention of Choctaw Warriors who accompanied the United States in the War. Jenniferhsrn (talk) 17:49, 5 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Choctaw Warriors 

message: The Creek War is part of the four-century long Indian Wars.
This is an 1813 event. Four centuries before would be 1413. The article on the Indian Wars says it was wars between settlers and Indians. Who were the settlers in 1413? And this article describes a "civil war" between Indians. Something is amiss in relating it to "the Indian Wars".
WithGLEE (talk) 15:30, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Part of 4 century long Indian Wars? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Icons#Avoid_flag_icons_in_infoboxes
According to this, there is no rule that states that flags should not be used in info boxes concerning wars or battles. It does list times where a flagicon is not appropriate, but does NOT list war/battles as one. It actually points to the Infobox in the article about the Battle of the Somme and its use of flag icons as an example of what to do.
There also exist multiple articles on 18th and early 19th century military conflicts involving Native American factions, which at the time did not have flag, that use flag icons to represent countries that did have them. These include the articles on the French-Indian War, The American Revolutionary War, The War of 1812, and Tecumseh War. Digital Herodotus (talk) 21:55, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: As I said on my talk page, the use of unbalanced flags needs discussion. Also, some information you changed in this IB is a mis-representative of the facts. I changed it back per Wp:Status Quo and wp:BRD. Remember, not everything needs to be in an Infobox. If needed, we can open this up to a wider discussion. Regards, GenQuest "scribble" 00:03, 11 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag icons