Talk:D12

message: Eminem was a member until 2018, not 2006 as currently stated. He appeared on the song "Fame" from the "Return of the Dozen vol. 2", and he was not credited as a feature.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:C7D:485E:3200:A08A:BA25:35CB:D372 (talk) 15:09, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Eminem membership

message: There's no direct proof that Fuzz Scoota left the group, but there also isn't any real evidence that he was actually legally signed to the group. 
Lots of signs that he isn't really a member of the group:
1. Made long rants on Twitter dissing Eminem as "Queen Mathers"
2. Wasn't featured on Bane
3. Hasn't done any tracks with D12 (or any solo tracks at all) since their 2011 mixtape
4. Never went on tour or concert with D12 once  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Informationmonopoly (talk • contribs) 08:27, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Fuzz Scoota's status as a member

message: Please link Bizzare's name in the Early Career section, "Proof's was Dirty Harry, Bizarre's was Peter S. Bizarre,".  Link to Bizzare http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bizarre_(rapper)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.3.249.108 (talk) 07:02, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Request link to Bizzare

message: Surely there must be a better photo of D12 out there on the net!?!
Can you please, please, PLEASE!!! Get a BETTER PHOTO Of D12 PLEASE!!! (120.149.115.145 (talk) 06:45, 22 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: BETTER PHOTO!

message: This page needs cleaning up.  It contains quite a few grammatical mistakes.  I have fixed a few, but it needs more work.
Why does it say Bizarre is dead?
Bizarre is not dead please change it because its wrong. Lscolls1212 (talk) 20:14, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I think I found out the name of new album. It's called "Return of the Dozen," according to Allmusic.com -Xaremathras (talk) 22:26, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name of New Album 

message: *Oppose. I added a third choice now to the dis-ambiguation page. Georgia guy 16:19, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: This is a rap group, not a band. --147.124.49.89 15:11, 7 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Band

message: Does anyone know the alternatrive names of all the former members of D12.  I feel that these should be included as there are technically always 12 members.(The Next Biggish Thing 15:18, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Alliases

message: Since the investigation is still underway (4/25/06), is it unwise to say at this point that Proof was murdered?  If he was shot out of self-defense, the term "murder" is probably incorrect.  I'm not trying to dog on Proof by bringing this up (I'm a fan of D12 as well), but as the facts unfold, it's looking more like Proof fired the first shot and was fired upon only after he had fatally wounded another man. --buck 20:42, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've altered the phrasing regarding Proof's death to say that he was "shot to death" rather than "murdered", as it appears that he was fired upon out of self-defense. --buck 18:06, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Death of Proof

message: D-12 is pretty underrated...  I mean sure, Kon Artis pretty much sucks, Kuniva sometimes sucks and it's hard to take Bizarre seriously as a Rapper.  But of course Em, Swift and Proof are ill.  Swift especially doesn't get the credit he deserves, I think he's not only the second best Rapper in D-12 but I think he's the 2nd best Rapper from Detroit, behind Eminem.  Why do you think Swift usually spits right after Em on tracks and even sometimes goes before him?  Swift been rippin shit up since "No One's Iller" on The Slim Shady EP--Tainted Drifter 06:34, 31 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You trippin. I love Swifty, he is my favorite rapper, but to say Kon Artis sucks? Kon Artis is ill as fuck. Kronos o (talk) 05:21, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Hmm

message: Who if anyone will replace Proof? And will D12 still be great without Proof, the groups heart and soul?
personally i think obie trice would make a great member.--DaGrob 18:00, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: People actually troll Wikipedia?  Don't you have anything better to do?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mertens21 (talk • contribs) 05:15, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: New member?

message: The term d12 does not solely refer to this band and should be a disanbisuiation page that allows readers to choose which content they wish to read about. shadzar|Talk|contribs 03:23, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  disambiguiation. 

message: Um, what is the point of having a Kuniva link, when it just redirects to D12? I think there should be an article about Kuniva. HeckXX 23:20, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kuniva 

message: Kanival; left the group to rap under The Black Wall Street Records label. Myspace.com/kanival
^^ This guy is as old as me... 17...
Selfish self promotion. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Sabertooth (talk • contribs) 15:02, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Former member Kanival? 

message: Under Swift's incarceration, it reads "the third D12 album, with a tentative release date of sometime between March and May of 2008. This was announced by Bizarre on the popular Rap Basement Message Board, in which D12 members occasionally post."
First off, Bizarre made that statement in an interview with MLIVE.com. Secondly, could we delete the part that states that the album will release between March and May of 2007? It is June 14th and no D12 album has released yet.
:Are you blind, or just stupid?  The current year is 2007.
Kuniva posted on D12 World's forum again stating that he doubts that the album will release in 2007. Since 50 Cent is dropping in September and Eminem is focused on promoting Ca$his and Stat Quo this year. Look forward to the D12 album in early '08 since Kuniva said that they've been told that they will release before this time next year.
http://www.d12world.com/index.php?s=news#newsitem1182448162,76448 states that "D12 is' currently "on hold," he says. Their forthcoming third album is 70 percent done, by his estimation, but so far boasts no input or content from Eminem." Once Stat Quo drops (in August) and Ca$his drops around October then Eminem will work on finishing off his album. Once Eminem's album drops, he will contribute his part to D12's third LP; not D12's third album - they had an Underground EP.
Impala63 01:11, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's not much about the third LP. 2011 is halfway over and the album is not much yet in works. I believe "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" was unused on Recovery by Eminem because it may be used on a third LP. TomUSA 01:23, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  D12's third LP 

message: Kuniva himself has stated that the album will not be given that title...Source: http://board.rapbasement.com/showpost.php?p=6134210&postcount=44
Yes, that really is him...
--Aunwit 02:00, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The new album will NOT be called Natural Born Killers... 

message: how do you edit that table at the bottom page? 
Eye-Kyu · Fuzz Scoota · Killa Hawk · Bugz · Proof · Flexy Buzz <<< needs to be removed...
--Aunwit 00:02, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a template at the bottom. You'd need to edit Template:D12. But I'm sure Killa Hawk and Flexy Buzz were not D12 members. TomUSA My talk page 19:24, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  bottom table... 

message: I haven't bothered to confirm this fact, but I wonder, is it really nessisary to quote the message?  -Verdatum (talk) 17:09, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I personally think it's not needed...(Aunwit (talk) 23:22, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myspace announcements section 

message: Since When did they start in 1993? Mcanmoocanu  —Preceding comment was added at 02:59, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  1993 

message: I switched the order of the group members to alphabetical: it doesn't make sense to have Eminem at the top arbitrarily when he's barely associated with the group these days and isn't even on the new mixtape. Alphabetical seems to make more sense. 86.157.89.33 (talk) 19:06, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it would make sense to have Eminem at the top considering him and Proof were the founding members of D12 and Proof is no longer a member due to his death, which leaves Eminem as the remaining founding member of the group.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mertens21 (talk • contribs) 05:23, 7 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought Bizzare was also a founding member? Kronos o (talk) 05:25, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Order of group members 

message: He will be missed. He needs his own page, someone needs to put one up. sum one please put up a page for him because he is dearly missed 70.185.227.29 (talk) 06:38, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fuzz isn't dead. He rejoined D12 prior to the release of Return of the Dozen Vol. 2. You're thinking of Bugz and Proof, they're the only D12 members that died. TomUSA My talk page 19:16, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fuzz Scoota RIP 

message: I seem to notice an edit war brewing over the Feuds section, particularly over the addition of the "Canibus/DZK" subsection. No attempt has been made by either side to discuss the issue. Perhaps the interested parties can quit the revert battle (before someone gets blocked a-la WP:3RR and work out the issue here.
Personally I think the "feuds," stupid as they are, are worthy of inclusion in a music group's history. Thus it would stand to reason that the "Canibus/DZK" incident should be included as well, if it's verifiable and with proper sources. However, the section as it has been presented by anonymous IP  needs a bit of work as far as style and tone, to be more encyclopedic. This, IMO, is a reason to revise it, but not just revert it off the page.
Please add your thoughts here, so y'all can work this out.
–ArmadniGeneral (talk • contribs) 05:57, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Feuds" section 

message: I'm wondering if anyone could clean up some parts of this article? Specifically, the "Feuds" section. Here is an example of what I mean: 
In the early 2000s, Eminem was notified while on the Anger Management Tour that former House Of Pain member, Everlast, had mocked him on a song. Everlast claimed that while passing by Mathers in a hotel lobby, Mathers gave him a "weird look." Taking offense to this, Eminem and D12 quickly began work on a retaliatory song, "Quitter." It was reported that long-time friends of Eminem, group Limp Bizkit, were meant to be featured on the song, but Fred Durst canceled at the last moment. The record continued its release without featuring Limp Bizkit, causing the Everlast-Mathers dispute to continue. In a TRL interview, Limp Bizkit member, DJ Lethal, made a statement that if Mathers and Ford were to fight in real life, Ford would win. 
My initial thought was, "Who in the hell is Ford? Where did he come from?" I know now that Whitey Ford is Everlast, but that could be clarified in the article. There are several more in the "Feuds" section alone. I would change them myself, however, I know how territorial people can be about articles, and I thought I would give someone that has been here a while a chance to do it. J DIGGITY (U ¢ ME) 01:40, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: This article needs a mop!

message: As Bugz and Kuniva appear to be non-notable rappers, I redirected those two to this article. I'm not sure whether Denaun Porter should be redirected as he seems to have gained notability as a producer. Karppinen (talk) 17:19, 24 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Bugz could have a page, not so sure about Kuniva. Kon Artis definately should have an article on Wikipedia. He has done works outside of D12 that have made him more notable. But Bugz I believe should have a page, but I won't create one unless I'm granted permission. As far as I'm concerned, the only members who should have their own articles are obviously Eminem, Proof, Bizarre, and Kon Artis. TomUSA My talk page 19:23, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirects 

message: Someone please put back his page because it's not there anymore I think it has been deleted, someone please make a new one and put it back there.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 6'5Guy (talk • contribs) 02:25, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like to see another Bugz page put up. However, the administrators here find it inappropriate to have such a page. I don't know if this helps, but this page on Hip Hop Wiki is for Bugz Also, visit BugzNation.com which is a fan generated website, including all works by Bugz as well as some images. TomUSA 18:18, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bugz page. 

message: wasn't the sauce, it was like toy soldiers, the sauce was the 1st diss he put out along with nail in the coffin  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.99.213.36 (talk) 16:47, 5 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last Response to benzino  

message: A page has been created for Kuniva, but the links should be added to the D12 page. 
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Kuniva&redirect=no  — Preceding unsigned comment added by ErykaMarie (talk • contribs) 17:03, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixing page to go to Kuniva's page 

message: Just to add Eye Kyu he was a member of D12.
93.137.51.191 (talk) 19:47, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Bility (talk) 22:21, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Go to the section below that I wrote, it features 2 sources, one of which solely based on Eye-Kyu. TomUSA 18:20, 26 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 93.137.51.191, 29 March 2011 

message: "Death of Bugz" subsection has a redirect to that same subsection. 67.80.27.38 (talk) 20:34, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: They feel that a page for Bugz is not necessary. Though I feel different about this because there's plenty of sources, there is no current page for Bugz, so it redirects to the subsection in this page. I hope this helps, TomUSA My talk page 19:20, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wtf... 

message: I think I should help write this article because I am very nice and I have a lot to offer. Believe me, you will not regret my edit. When I was a little boy, I always share my toys with my little sister. I always say please and thank you. I always forgive people;7tfg6in', So I believe I will be a good contributor to this article... BITCH!!!!!! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Guyjij (talk • contribs) 
: Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. — Bility (talk) 19:06, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm confused. Can you say what needs to be changed with the article? The admins at Wikipedia protected this article from unregistered IPs and new Wikipedians fro specific reasons. TomUSA My talk page 19:18, 6 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  g 

message: Eye-Kyu, DJ Head, Chaos Kid, Three. These are former members of D12. They were taken out of the infobox for some reason, can someone explain why? They are notable, Eye-Kyu having been featured on Eminem's album Infinite in 1996 as well as D12's The Underground EP. DJ Head, Chaos Kid, Three, and Fuzz Scoota were present for their first EP, but left in 1997 - 1998 for unrevealed reasons. All we can say is that they did leave D12, but we don't know why. Fuzz Scoota left because of a fight with Proof, but felt bad after Proof's death and tried to recontact D12, and eventually did thus rejoining the group. I also saw a mugshot of Eye-Kyu somewhere. I'm not saying they should all have pages (DJ Head already has one), but they should be noted in the former members section of the infobox. For some reason, they were taken down.
Read the members section of this biography in the top part: http://www.rapartists.com/artists/d12/biography
Here are some works featuring Eye-Kyu at wn.com: http://wn.com/Eye-Kyu
I hope someone tells me why the former acts are taken down, and something can be done to put them back up. Personally, I myself believe they should recieve credit for earlier works by D12 as well. TomUSA 20:28, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Former members 

message: Kon Artis/Mr. Porter was only present on two songs due to him being Eminem's current hype man. That ties in with the whole 'Eminem only being on one track' thing in this article.
Fedjack (talk) 03:48, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Question: Could you be more specific on what needs to be changed? Topher385 (talk) 04:41, 8 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Marking as answered for response of the above question. Jnorton7558 (talk) 06:38, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Fedjack, 8 August 2011 

message: Minor edit: First "Swift" link in Swift's Incarceration section goes to a disambiguation page, not to proper Swift (rapper) page  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 222.228.171.72 (talk) 04:42, 29 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request, 29 September 2011 

message: The 10th anniversary party for the Devil's Night album is on October 30th, 2011 ... as is "devil's night."  This article has it incorrectly listed as October 31st, which is Halloween.  So just change "on October 31st in St. Andrew's Hall" to "on October 30th in St. Andrew's Hall".
:Has been fixed by GroundZ3R0 002 --Jnorton7558 (talk) 14:22, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistake in Date of Anniversary Release Party 

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thread_title: File:Rap group.jpeg Nominated for speedy Deletion

message: I don't really know what more proof does anybody want, Eminem has not been active with any member of D12 and the remaining members do not aknowledge him as part of D12. please add him to former members  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.219.178.166 (talk) 01:48, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Please provide a reliable source to confirm his departure. HrZ (talk) 13:42, 31 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eminem is not part of D12 anymore 

message: I have now crated wiki pages for bugz kuniva and swifty mcvay, i thought it would be good to add links to these
I have added links for these Andrew W 23:58, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links 

message: Why does Fuzz Scoota redirect to this page? If it is because there is no page for him, would someone consider making him one?
also: here is some information on him  http://rap.wikia.com/wiki/Fuzz_Scoota   Andrew W 00:33, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fuzz Scoota Redirect 

message: Would someone be willing to create a page for this mixtape by D12? It is a very popular and well done mixtape so i feel as though it deserves a page of its own. Andrew W 00:32, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Return of the Dozen Vol. 2  

message: More information about Swifty McVay can be found in the edit histories of Swifty McVay, Swifty McVay (rapper), and, if it does not get deleted, Swifty Mcvay.  davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:43, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Any future article should be created at Swifty McVay (the correct stylization), I see no real reason in three redirects for the same person. If anything all three articles should have their histories merged together so we can keep it all together. STATic message me! 22:23, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: If the significant edits are completely non-overlapping then this could be done.  However, if article #1 were edited, say, in 2009 and 2011, and article B edited in 2010, then a history merge would make the history very confusing.  A possible solution for the case of non-histmergable versions would be to MOVE them all to Swifty McVay, Swifty McVay (2), Swifty McVay (3), etc. and make the first a redirect to D12 all but the first fully-protected redirects to the first and do something to keep the bot from "fixing" double-redirects. Please do not do this without a discussion on Talk:D12 *and* pointers to the discussion being placed on the talk pages of all affected pages.  davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:21, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: OT:  Wikipedia needs the ability to have some mechanism for alternate-versions of the same page title for cases like this.  Due to the potential for really screwing things up, editing or moving into- or out-of such alternate-versions should be a request able permission, similar to FILEMOVER or EDITPROTECT, or it should piggyback on an existing permission.  davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 18:21, 18 November 2013 (UTC)

text: The result of the deletion discussion was "redirect" to D12.  The old content is in the revision history.  davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 02:00, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swifty McVay 

message: Why lock it if nobody is going to update it?
pleaae get a hold of yourselves, its shameful  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:75:F77:904:2C04:54B7:3CD7:48FD (talk) 22:58, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who is in charge of this page? 

message: The page is locked and nobody is editing, there are so many mistakes.
I will formally log a complain.2003:75:F6F:F531:A9C2:EA5E:B4F3:EA46 (talk) 11:37, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hey, what the hell is going on? 

message: It's unbelievable that nobody is editing this article, it is sad and annoying. Please unlock so we can complete it!!!Gomezmorincuevas (talk) 16:15, 7 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please Unlock 

message: D12 is actually an initialism for Dirty Dozen, not The Dirty Dozen...
Plus, update the info about The Devil's Night Mixtape, Eminem's intro, the whole album, etc., or just update the whole article (in other words).
120.62.59.192 (talk) 10:04, 30 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  D12... THE Dirty Dozen... or just Dirty Dozen? 

message: Under the 'Devil's Night and D12 World (2000–05)' section, a link referring to the D12 Album 'Devil's Night' leads to the article about the Detroit cultural phenomenon that occurs on October 30.
99.226.84.126 (talk) 20:17, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Done! ~ty(talk) 20:22, 5 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 April 2016 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Says "1996-1999" 
He was born January 5, 1978 Valkeryia (talk) 01:31, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bugz birth year 

message: There are still songs being put out with D12 members as featured artists and identified as D12. Eminem is no longer active, but Kuniva, Bizarre, and Swifty still do tracks together or in different combinations. Should Em just be listed as no longer a member and the status of D12 changed back to active? 24.92.38.147 (talk) 15:09, 6 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Active or not? 

message: eye kyu was a former member. Give the man his credit. 100.10.54.117 (talk) 13:34, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing eye kyu former member 

message: This entire article treats D12 as a group that no longer exists. This idea is derived solely from Eminem's 2018 solo song "Stepping Stone" on which he announced that 'D12 is over.' However, as Bizarre, Kuniva and Swifty had been recording and touring under the name D12 as a trio for several years prior to Eminem's announcement, and have continued to do so since, this announcement is more accurately read as Eminem's official retirement from the group after a decade of mere token involvement. Eminem doesn't have the power to disband the group by decree, all he can do is quit; the others continued on without him. Bizarre left the group in 2012 and later rejoined them on tour. He appears to have left the group again, and Kuniva and Swifty are now touring as D12, although Bizarre was on the new track they did with Fury last year, so maybe he just sat out the tour, it's unclear. What's clear is that D12 is an active group. - Forty.4 (talk) 23:25, 21 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  D12 still exists as an active group