Talk:Iridology/Archive 1

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Talk:Iridology/archive2 (22 Jan 2004 - 25 Jan 2004)
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Real doctors do often look at the eyes though? I think that some medical conditions e.g. excess chloresterol deposit fat around the iris? producing a white ring? Or am I mistaken.Of course this isn't really anything to do with iridology but it might deserve a mention on this page.Theresa knott 13:24 Apr 3, 2003 (UTC)
Theresa, I am a medical doctor who studies the iris and applies iridology in medical diagnosis. Does this make me less of a "real" doctor ?
Cheers, Dan
My apologies Dan. I should have been more careful. I meant. "conventional doctors" Theresa knott
PS. You may "be mistaken" about cholesterol, which might be found more in deposits around the EYES, like in xanthelasmae. The CORNEAS might have Kayser-Fleischer rings, arcus senilis, and stuff which might be mistakenly seen as belonging to the iris. Perhaps you are not mistaken about GOOD doctors ALWAYS looking at the eyes though : )
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"Recent research articles go much deeper into the issues involved in iridial studies."
I removed this sentence as it doesn't actually add anything to the article. Perhaps if the findings of the recent studies were added it would make more sence ? Theresa knott 14:53, 4 Sep 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm no touch typist, I don't watch the screen as I type, plus I'm useless at spelling anyway :-( theresa knott 14:03, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

text: It is fine to quote copyrited work as long as it's in quotation marks, the authors name is given and it's only a small portion of the paper that is quoted. It is also fine to write findings up in your own words, ideas can't be copyerited on the presentation of them. So I wont remove the sentence again (in the short term anyway) I'll give you a change to write in some more detail theresa knott 14:03, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

text: You're right - it's a semi-literate mess. I've thrown out large chunks of it. It would be great to see some details about how iriology proponents say it works, rather than just "medicine is bad" rants. DavidWBrooks 16:15, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

text: Please do put in details from your experience and knowledge - that would be great. Remember, this isn't an article about whether profit-motive-based medicine works; it's an article about iridology! But don't expect people to leave an article untouched until you decide you're finished - that's not the way Wikipedia works. We've all had our own Wikipedia words altered by others, sometimes for good and sometimes for bad, and it's annoying ... but that's wiki life. If we want our articles to remain pristine, we can put them on different Web sites.  (I apologize for the 'semi-literate' crack, which was inaccurate - I was typing before I had enough coffee) - DavidWBrooks 18:10, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

text: And please, from those who are knowledgeable, how about some details of how iridology is supposed to work - e.g., the appearance/disappearance of white lines, etc.? Details are good! (I apologize for the 'semi-literate' crack - typing before I had enough coffee) DavidWBrooks 16:36, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I can tell, and I'm sure irismaster will correct me if I'm wrong. Iridology is supposed to be able to diagnose health complaints from the appearence of lines or flecks in specific portions of the iris. The fine white lines are supposed to be indicative of healing in that part of the body. According to the quackwatch's article on Iridology] it has been tested  and been found to be useless as a diagnostic tool. theresa knott 17:31, 21 Jan 2004 (UTC)

text: I think there are far too many needlessly technical terms in this article. I am reminded of adverts for cosmetics  "This face cream uses bio hyrated pro vitamins delivered through micro granuals" sounds scientific so it must make me look 21 again right! or astrology " The moon is in the first quarter whilst jupiter is on the horizon as the sun enters aquarius. This means you'll be lucky in love. If saturn we on the horizon you'd be lucky in buisiness" Yeah right! Let's keep things simple. Technobabble out plain speaking in. theresa knott 15:30, 22 Jan 2004 (UTC)