Talk:Incidents during the Hajj

message: This article contains several repetitions (e.g. of the 2006 hostel collapse) which ought to be cleaned up. Ben Finn 23:05, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's been sorted now. violet/riga (t) 23:13, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Repetitions

message: I'm wondering if the article should be ordered by date rather than the type of incident... violet/riga (t) 23:13, 12 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Honestly, that would make more sense looking at objectively. However, considering that if someone were to come to this article and learn about one of the stampede accidents, they would probably be more inclined to care about the other related incidents in other years, as opposed to having to read through the lines to figure out when the other similar events occurred. Pepsidrinka 00:16, 13 January 2006 (UTC)

text: I concur.  BlueGoose 01:31, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sectioning

message: It looks like the November 1979 violence took place after the Hajj had been over for some weeks (it was at the beginning of the month of Muharram). There is a connection with pilgrimage to Mecca, yes, but it did not occur "during the Hajj". --Cam 07:23, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: November 1979 Masjid al-Haram takeover

message: Well, if it didn't, then it really would not be be an "Incidents during the Hajj", would it?--67.173.142.168 07:10, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "fatal tragedy of the Islamic month of Dhu al-Hijjah in 2006"

message: I'm surprised to find no mention of the massive fire in 1997. This was much more significant an incident than most of those listed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.132.171.124 (talk) 16:29, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The big fire

message: I made editorial changes to  the article on 7/24/2010.  A few of the incidents reported were under the wrong headings, there were redundancies and other inconsistencies that I have fixed.  I am not sure that the lists are complete, especially about the fires.  Also the "disease" section only reflects recent decades of history.  In past decades other diseases, such as Cholera, were a major threat.  This article can be improved substantially by knowledgeable people.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.169.202.151 (talk) 20:21, 24 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits and Minor Reorganization

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replies: text: I removed the percentage of Muslims from the lead because many anit-Islam freaks will come to mess around with it.--NorthernPashtun (talk) 16:03, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Incidents during the Hajj]] 

message: I know this will only be classed as hearsay as I do not have evidence but a muslim I worked with was at the Hajj in 1997 and said there were about 1500 deaths due to the fires (no idea how many injured). They hushed up the real total as it's bad publicity. (178.236.117.122 (talk) 16:56, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: 1997 fire

message: Have added the 3 widely publicised RS reports on Salafi threats and violence against American Shi'ite pilgrims from last year, and in so doing removed the 'out of date label', there's more that could be added.Cpsoper (talk) 13:25, 18 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Shi'ite reports

message: It was a hajj flight, packed with pilgrims headed for Jeddah. Due to the (officially) inexplicable behavior of its captain it killed all 287 passengers and 14 crew. Yes, the investigation (officially) could not determine the source of the blaze, but it did uncover propane stoves used by the pilgrims to make tea at the back of the plane where the fire began (if I may say, "Duh." I've spent more than twenty-five years reading final, official aviation accident reports from all over the world and the truth is not always in the best interests of the parties involved, so it occasionally - if not blatantly - escapes publication). And yes, the actual deaths took place at the originating airport, but the article already discusses deaths worldwide related to the hajj. It very much seems this preventable disaster should also be listed among notable tragedies, regardless of the (officially) unanswerable questions. (Not an editor. Just a reader grateful for the editors' hard work.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.248.51.75 (talk) 00:47, 12 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: What about Saudia Flight 163?

message: I have added details of AP's report on understated fatalities. Cpsoper (talk) 09:22, 10 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Stampede 2015 AP report

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message: Has there been any significant fatal incidents after 2015 during Hajj?88.114.196.82 (talk) 09:28, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  New incidents