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Wikipedia talk:Categories are different from articles

message: My comment below is why I think the essay must be expanded, in the hope that users who utilise category talk pages can be pointed elsewhere.
I have been tagging the odd Indonesian, and Australian wikiproject article and category talk pages for some time - and I see the importance of a more significant and expanded essay like this one - is for the odd discussion page tabs above articles that are red are the sign of a badly managed project person like me - I think it is vital for the average user to understand that categories and category talk pages are (a) not places for questions (b) places for project tags (c) places for indicating clearly relationships with other categories, projects or management tools for wikipedia (d) not places for discussion about category pages - I believe they belong at project noticeboards or discussion pages to elicit wider viewing than one will ever get at a category talk page.
It is from this that I believe the essay needs quite extensive development - so that wikipedia users who stumble across category pages should see that there are more appropriate avenues for their queries/problems etc SatuSuro 14:15, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Category talk pages

message: But this page isn't saying all that much. Note that several arguments on WP:AADD are equally valid in CFD debates (and at least one of them moreso). I suppose the various categorization policies/guidelines need revisiting. >Radiant< 15:38, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Well yes

message: I took the liberty of expanding the essay and tried to provide some more specific examples of how articles differ from categories and how policies and guideline handle the two entities.  Feel free to ammend or discuss or revert as desired, but hopefully some of what I added helps the essay. Dugwiki 19:24, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Very helpful! -- Kendrick7talk 20:20, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expanded the essay 

message: While I pretty much agree with the contents of this essay, I'm wondering if we should be putting our energy into a re-write of Wikipedia:Categorization.  It was last overhauled about a year and a half ago.  I'm wondering if there is a better organization for the information.  Perhaps, instead of having sub-articles, we could have expandable subsections for the page, with details and specifics collapsed so that they people will expand them when they need more information.  There could be some main sections like:
*What is a category
*How do you make a category
*What makes a good category
*What makes a bad category
*How do you delete a category
::--Samuel Wantman 07:27, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Perhaps a rewrite of [[Wikipedia:Categorization]] is needed
Wikipedia talk:Requests for mediation/Nazism/Header

message: This case is being mediated by ; if involved parties or uninvolved editors wish to contact him, a list of methods is available here.
Archives
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Note — Mediator's Statement, Mediation Stage 1, etc..., archived; see infobox on right for information ~ AGK 15:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
Talk:Thubten Jigme Norbu

message: M. Goldstein's Modern History of Tibet PP738
At this time, the Dalai Lama and his key officials heard their first eyewitness account of
Chinese Communist rule when the Dalai Lama's elder brother, Taktse Rimpoche (Thubten
Norbu), suddenly arrived in Lhasa from Amdo (see Figure 61). As the abbot of Kumbum
monastery in Chinese-Communist–controlled Tsinghai, he had lived under Chinese Communist
rule for about a year and was dismayed by his experience. He claimed he had been kept under
strict watch during this period and had been strongly urged by the Chinese to go to Lhasa to
convince his brother to agree to the peaceful liberation of Tibet. The Chinese went so far as to
promise him the position of governor of Tibet if he could accomplish this. After for some time
refusing to cooperate, he ultimately pretended to agree to the Chinese plan so that he could
escape to Lhasa and tell his brother his real views on the Communists.[1]  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.90.220.185 (talk) 21:10, 11 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Is it usual for a Taktser Rinpoche, abbot, to be married?--Richardson mcphillips (talk) 19:56, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It's pretty unusual, but not unheard of. The 15th Karmapa and the 10th Panchen Lama were married. Thubten Jigme Norbu rejected his religious role to a greater extent than those men did, however. He was something of a unique position to do so because he combined considerable prestige as the elder brother of the Dalai Lama with the fact that his religious position was traditionally not that important, so there were no vested interests demanding that he stick with it. – Greg Pandatshang (talk) 16:32, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  married
Talk:Bayesian multivariate linear regression

message: Does this page need to exist given Bayesian linear regression?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Red.devil.ade (talk • contribs) 13:14, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

message: I'm trying to make some sense out of this article, but there are no citations provided. There are three references listed at the bottom, with no indication of how they are relevant or where they were used in the writing of the article. For example, the results contained in "Posterior Distribution" look like they could be useful, but without citing a reference, it is difficult to confirm or logically follow this result in any meaningful way.
Perhaps the author of this section could point us to specific pages in some literature in which this is discussed?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.173.166.77 (talk) 02:14, 8 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where are the references?
Talk:Racial politics

message: I am still editing the page, so it will not be short when it is finished.
:Ok, I'll replace the speedy deletion template with a template indicating major editing. If it still is an article eligible for speedy deletion when you're done, however, I'll then list it again. Have a nice time - I imagine that you'll be able to create a good article that won't need tagging. Nihiltres(t.c.s) 14:26, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 8 years on and it is a complete mess. Anyone care to tackle it? 213.205.194.111 (talk) 16:01, 7 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Still editing

message: Placed a noref tag on . It is opinion and had no cites since it was inserted in 2014. I think seven years is long enough to wait for refs, given the type of material it contains. Please alter it to conform to sources, and cite them, or remove the sub-section. I intend to do so if nothing has changed in next month.  203.0.31.68 (talk) 06:06, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed the unsourced paragraphs as mentioned. Left the part headed "the Rich" as that has refs, although I struggle to see its relevance. Deleted section shown below: 203.0.31.68 (talk) 00:47, 18 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation-free opinion 

message: Despite being reverted on this page by a very experienced Wikipedian, I am going to restore my changes, as I believe from my reading of WP policy that they should be acceptable:
# Gave a title to an untitled section per WP:SHOWN. It makes talk pages easier for me (and others, too, I am guessing) to follow
# Deleted IAbot message re "external links modified" as my understanding was that editors did have permission to do so (e.g. see this), it was very stale (2017) , and I find pages cluttered with these messages hard to follow (I have a condition that makes print and screen reading tricky).
If it is poor form, then please revert again, and accept my apologies.
Thanks. 203.0.31.68 (talk) 03:14, 27 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Apologies in advance, if not okay

message: — Assignment last updated by ImagineWorldPeace (talk) 18:32, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Political Sociology
Talk:Kamikaze (ride)

message: The ride at Luna Park does not have shoulder harnesses, only a highly padded hydraulic t-bar that pushes into your hips.  It is also double armed. Is it an actually kamikaze (ie: made by this company)? or is it a variant and therefore should be listed on a different page. Tinkstar1985 14:24, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Pharaoh's Curse at Luna Melbourne is described on the park's wiki page as "a Japanese made Kamikaze-style double-arm ranger"Irish Melkite (talk) 07:51, 29 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Luna Park ride a kamikaze? 

message: "The entire ride can be stowed on a single 40 ft (12 m) trailer which requires a special permit to travel in the Continental United States" - What's the source for this statement? A 40 ft trailer is 13 ft shorter than the typical tractor-pulled trailer, so it isn't at all clear why any special permit would be required for it. Irish Melkite (talk) 11:26, 28 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trailer Permit?
Talk:Samuele Bacchiocchi

message: I tagged the conspiracy theory as non-neutral because it seems to be a biased account of events written by someone with a vested interest. Is it important enough to show up in any independent reliable sources? If no, I suggest it be removed altogether. --Flex (talk/contribs) 14:39, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia does not judge the truth-value of conspiracy theories or any other point. Rather, it merely outlines the different arguments and those who represent them, on a disputed point (WP:NPOV). Thus it outlines who makes the argument, with the length of treatment given corresponding to the significant of the perspective. If a perspective is very small (within the context of a particular article) then it should not be mentioned at all, by due weight. Colin MacLaurin (talk) 02:48, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I do think the minority POV suspicious of Bacchiocchi is maybe worth including, but only very briefly per due weight. Hence I have shortened it considerably. I kept the Alberto Rivera reference, as he is the most prominent source apparently – he is notable enough to have his own Wikipedia article. However he is a very questionable source. I justify the inclusion only on the basis that a small but visible segment actually believe this. Colin MacLaurin (talk) 07:23, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What Colin MacLaurin did seems fine to me; it puts the source in its likely proper perspective. By the way, is there any way we could find a photo of Mr. Bacchiocchi? Kansan (talk) 03:55, 13 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Conspiracy theory
Talk:Kumbum

message: Currently the language info lists the Tibetan as "One hundred thousand holy images". Aside from the formatting looking off I am fairly certain that little to any of that is an accurate representation of the Tibetan name which, I am lead to believe, is normally written with the Tibetan alphabet. Would anyone with knowledge of the appropriate form correct this? I would myself but I have neither Tibetan input nor the slightest competence in the language. 31.205.23.143 (talk) 22:07, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tibetan name 
Talk:Roxburghshire

message: Is this related to the "shire of Roxbury", which is said to be the origin of so many places called Roxburys in the U.S.?
On the map in the Civil parishes section Number 2 is in fact Earlston in Berwickshire and I have no idea why it is on this map or how to remove it but Hey ho.  This comment was originally there but now I have moved it here where it belongs. Jodosma (talk) 20:20, 23 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments
Talk:Adam Miller (footballer, born 1982)

message: --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 22:52, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've rewritten the sentence to "expected to be a regular in the team", which seems in keeping with the source, which says "now he has made five starts for the club, and looks set to play an integral part in the team next season."  Hope this is OK ChrisTheDude (talk) 18:50, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fine and congratulations, this has become a GA. ;) --  ThinkBlue  (Hit BLUE) 18:52, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA review 

message: Born 1982, so he still doesn't have any relationship or personal life?--Jarodalien (talk) 01:34, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not that has been written about in reliable independent third party sources, it would seem, no.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:10, 9 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  need update 
Talk:Beck's monadicity theorem

message: "Passing to a category of coalgebras for a comonad T is a high-flown way of modelling what taking equivalence classes does, in less touchy situations." What? a few more details, or a reference, would be useful.
128.135.60.45 03:56, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I think the claim that that U preserves all colimits is wrong, see this question on mathoverflow.
The monadicity theorem does indeed prove that U is monadic though - but the proof is a little bit more involved and relies on assumption that the coequalizer is U-split. --Mz147 (talk) 18:47, 15 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Compact Hausdorff spaces
Talk:Harry Luke

message: Chief Secretary of Palestine for a while around 1929; I'm looking for details. Zerotalk 12:06, 4 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing appointments 
Talk:Beck's theorem (geometry)

message: In the statement of the Erdős–Beck theorem, I don't know what the notation Ω(nk) means.  Checking Beck's paper of 1983, I find that theorem 5.2 actually says there exist constants A and B such that the number of connecting lines containing at most A points of S is more than Bnk.  Since the value of A may turn out to be smaller than n-k, it's not clear from this that the theorem as stated on the main page is true.  Jowa fan (talk) 05:00, 1 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Correct statement of theorem?
Talk:Anlong Veng District

message: I've started things off - feel free to join in. Preferably no links to travel stories, as there are plenty available already :) Paxse 14:31, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Started

message: ...is not displaying properly in Firefox - though it is fine in Word. Hmmm. Paxse (talk) 16:33, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Khmer script...
Talk:Kannuki

message: If you go to the page for Bushido Blade, you'll see that the is a link for all characters. Including Kannuki, my intention was to do it this was as it looks neater, so please don't redirect. MJN SEIFER 14:32, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your message on my talk page. "Independent sources" means sources where we can verify the content of the article, that were not published by the same company that makes the game. The reason I suggested a redirect is that Wikipedia is not a game guide, so if something can't be verified in sources that are independent of the game manufacturer, then it's not a good idea to put it in Wikipedia.Looking at Bushido Blade (video game), I see that many other characters also don't have their own page. Pan Dan 19:47, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, creating the articles for the other characters isn't what I was hoping you would do :) ....  Replying to your comment about character descriptions in other video game articles, that may be true, but we can only fix one article at a time on Wikipedia. In the long run, every article on Wikipedia must cite sources. This is so that people who read the articles can verify the information to see for themselves if it's really true. You might want to check out Wikipedia's policies on verifiability and original research. Also check out Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information for why a Wikipedia article must not be a game guide or a plot summary. (Just a note, I'll be leaving the computer soon, so I won't reply for a while if you reply to me.) Pan Dan 20:05, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

text: You suggest that Wikipedia has a habit of removing things it "doesn't like." I hope you would reconsider this assessment. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia and it has rules to make sure that it stays an encyclopedia. We remove things that are not verifiable or that do not belong in an encyclopedia, but we (try) never to remove things just because we "don't like them." I put that in quotation marks because most Wikipedia editors don't like or dislike articles. For example, I don't like or dislike Bushido Blade, it's just that I'm concerned that Kannuki can't be properly sourced. Pan Dan 10:28, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Do '''not''' Merge
Talk:Taktser Rinpoche

message: This reads like a summary article about Thubten Jigme Norbu.  Is there any information about the other Taktser Rinpoches?  --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 19:54, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The Taktsers seem to have been pretty obscure tülkus prior to one of them ending up as the brother of the current Dalai Lama. It's typical that we have little or no information available about Tibetan Buddhist lineages like that. In practice, then, the article on the lineage often ends up combined with the article on the most famous representative (if there is no famous representative of the lineage, then there's usually no source material with which to create an article on the lineage at all). In this case, someone seems to have decided to create a separate article for the lineage, but here our reach exceeds our grasp, since we don't have additional information to put in the lineage article. – Greg Pandatshang (talk) 17:07, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: See merger proposal--Tiger Chair (talk) 10:55, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  other Taktser Rinpoches?
Talk:Lake whitefish

message: Can you eat white fish? We caught some at Prineville Resevoir in Oregon. Didn't know if they are considered edible.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.224.227.190 (talk) 19:25, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  White Fish 
Talk:Rexburg Idaho Temple

message: The closest shield volcano to Rexburg is Hell's Half Acre Lava Field (according to this), but it looks like that one is further southwest, between Idaho Falls and Blackfoot. The whole Idaho/Wyoming/Montana area is dotted with volcanoes, including shields which are very low profile, but if the one under Rexburg isn't notable enough to have a name, I'm not sure it needs to be mentioned here. – jaksmata 16:41, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The unnamed volcano is also mentioned in the Rexburg article, but without sources there either. – jaksmata 16:44, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shield volcano? 
Talk:Masatoshi Hamada

message: I think it would help this article if there was a picture that clearly illustrates the subject. The two pictures here have him obscured by a mob of people, and a sketchpad with Super Mario, respectively :) If anyone could find a suitable picture, that'd be fantastic. Powerslave (talk|cont.) 05:11, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: A suggestion

message: Kansai is considered inappropriate in Japanese society?? What a stupid thing to write. It is simply a distinctive regional form of speech. DMC (talk) 05:38, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Kansai dialect

message: Should it be included that he helped with fundraising after the earthquake and tsunami? . my computer doesn't read Japanese that well so I can't really add it. - KingRaven (>$.$)> (talk) 22:51, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Earthquake/Tsunami fundraising 
Talk:Dreamlanders

message: Although I did cite a single source for the edit I made, I did not take the liberty of removing the flag for additional citation needed. I am aware of another source for this content, and will edit as needed once I've obtained that source, and cite it accordingly. Malcom Gregory Scott (talk) 22:31, 10 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Only one source

message: I question the need for a bio project tag. It's almost impossible to get biographical info on Dreamlanders. Any objection?Mike P (WHAT?) 21:31, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Bio tag?

message: This statement: "Some would consider Danny Mills to be a Dreamlander despite only appearing in the 1972 film Pink Flamingos" raises more questions than it answers. Mills is certainly an important figure in the John Waters filmography—after all, he had a major role in Pink Flamingos, which arguably is Waters' most seminal feature and undoubtedly represents a watershed event in his career. Mills is at least as recognizable as Susan Lowe. 
This seems to beg the question: Who, exactly, uses the term "Dreamlanders"? Where did the criteria for membership (that is, having to have appeared in more than one John Waters film) come from? If only "some" consider Mills to be a Dreamlander, then does this imply some dispute as to Mills' status? If so, who are the people involved in this dispute? And if there is no authority who can determine once and for all which actors qualify as Dreamlanders, then is it a real classification, or just a conceit used among those who write about cult films? If the latter, does it actually merit its own Wikipedia entry?
I hate to seem overly critical, but the article does seem unnecessarily vague. Rangergordon (talk) 10:08, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You ask a lot of questions. You are free to edit the article as is any other user. Mjpresson (talk) 15:54, 26 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Danny Mills and the Dreamlanders 

message: Is there a cite or an example of "design students from Johns Hopkins University"?  There is no design program/major at Hopkins, thus no "design students."  Maybe the article meant to say the Maryland Institute College of Art?  Furthermore, none of the listed "Dreamlanders" have any association with Hopkins.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.242.99.94 (talk) 03:23, 15 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Design students
Talk:Bell polynomials

message: I just noticed that exponential polynomials redirects to Touchard polynomials, but exponential polynomial redirects to Bell polynomials. From what I can tellm the two are closely related, but the relationship is not really spelled out. Can someone who knows more a) make the redirect unambiguous (and as specific as possible) and b) take whatever other measures are useful? Should the articles possibly be merged? Thanks! --Stephan Schulz 09:19, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just redirected exponential polynomial to Touchard polynomials. Michael Hardy 14:42, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I've added an explanation that Touchard polynomials are simply complete Bell polynomials with all arguments being x. Maxal (talk) 19:51, 8 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Touchard polynomials 

message: I've reverted this edit because it left the article worse.  The two section headings involved were supposed to be WITHIN the "applications" section, as subsections. Michael Hardy (talk) 11:22, 24 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert 

message: Currently, the recurrence formula for the partial exponential Bell polynomials has the form
B_{n,k} = \sum_{i=1}^{n-k+1} \binom{n-1}{i-1} x_i B_{n-i,k-1}
.
I suggest to instead rewrite it in the equivalent, yet slightly more elegant form
B_{n+1,k+1} = \sum_{i=0}^{n-k} \binom{n}{i} x_{i+1} B_{n-i,k}
.
This is certainly a matter of taste, but I believe that the latter form provides better insight on the involved combinatorics. It is also more consistent with with the recurrence relation given above for the complete exponential Bell polynomials, namely
B_{n+1}(x_1, \ldots, x_{n+1}) = \sum_{i=0}^n \binom{n}{i} B_{n-i}(x_1, \ldots, x_{n-i}) x_{i+1}
.
In addition, consistently with the above formula and the rest of the article, it might be preferable to include the arguments of the partial polynomials, eventually giving
B_{n+1,k+1}(x_1, \ldots, x_{n-k+1}) = \sum_{i=0}^{n-k} \binom{n}{i} x_{i+1} B_{n-i,k}(x_1, \ldots, x_{n-k-i+1})
.
I'm doing the edit, please let me know or revert it is you think this is not suitable. Loj19 (talk) 20:54, 17 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recurrence relation for partial exponential Bell polynomials