Talk:Byung-hyun Kim

message: I removed the table. I don't quite see the point of it, it was half empty, and frankly, it was a waste of space. Doughboy 04:08, 19 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Table removal

message: I've seen him referred to as "BK Kim" in sports articles. Why is that? "BH Kim" would be more understandable. -Phoenixrod 19:28, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nickname 

message: He's Korean but owns a Japanese restaurant?? that's weird.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kskk2 (talk • contribs) 01:57, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Restaurant

message: Nevermind the fact that I'm a Mets fan, but seriously, Kim's start that Friday night had little to do with the Mets September collapse.  He wasn't even great that night, Oliver Perez was just worse, which enabled Kim to get the win.  The Mets still controlled their own destiny that Sunday anyway.  Whoever wrote up the piece on the Mets collapse clearly peppered in a bit of his/her opinion along with the facts.  In any case, is this a Wikipedia article about Kim or about the Mets?  Someone please remove all this Mets historic collapse stuff, at least from this article, as if Kim was the sole reason the Mets blew it.  --Qbizzle 02:21, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How do you spell POV? :-) -Phoenixrod 04:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I deleted one whole paragraph about the Mets that I had nothing to do with Kim, but that entire sections still has serious issues.  The wording doesn't even clarify what Kim's role was in beating the Mets, but from what I can gather there's no evidence that he played a particularly important role in that series.MashDownBabylon (talk) 05:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Like one person above said - and I agree - what is important is the historical significance of the three-day series between the Marlins and the Mets and the series-starter game in which Kim started.  From a historical perspective, it does not matter how Kim performed in the series starter.  The mere fact that Kim was involved in this series starter warrants the recording of the historical account of these three games.  These two paragraphs have to be there to explain the historical significance.  The facts in these two paragraphs are true facts.  These valuable historical accounts should not be deleted.  (And Kim did pretty well in this game, considering that he pitched 5+ innings with finger blisters on his right index and middle fingers, even though it was not his best start.)  It will be hard for Mets fans to relive this memory but these are solid facts.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by HannahMTUSA (talk • contribs) 22:16, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I also agree.  The Mets lost to Kim in this game and eventually paid the consequence for handing Kim the starting-win decision in this game.  Like David Wright said, if the Mets beat Kim in this game, the Mets may have avoided the historic collapse.  This is why the historical accounts on the Mets' historic collapse should be here.  If the things went opposite and the Mets beat Kim, avoided the collapse, and went all the way to win the World Series, baseball historians would not have missed that also.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by JRailroad (talk • contribs) 00:03, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have trimmed much of the section down, including everything related to the Mets' collapse. The place to chronicle the collapse is at 2007 New York Mets season, and not here. Kim's involvement in the Mets' collapse was, at best, tangental. By your reasoning, every player who had a good outing against the Mets in the stretch run would need two (or more) paragraphs devoted to the Mets eventual elimination from playoff contention in their bios. That, however, is not how an encyclopedia works. It is sufficient to keep on topic and link to tangental information as needed. Please do not reintroduce this information before coming to a consensus, whether it be here or at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball#Byung-Hyun Kim (where the matter has also been addressed). If you have any specific questions, please contact me. caknuck ° has a nasty slice in his golf swing 19:08, 18 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Here is my suggestion to modify this:
2007 Season (drop the victory in NY's epic collapse)
On September 28, Kim collected his tenth win of the season against the Mets at Shea Stadium in New York City[40] and became the second South Korean pitcher after Chan Ho Park to win ten games in a Major League season.[41]  This game dropped the Mets to the second place in the National League East Division for the first time since May 16, 2007.  See 2007 Mets for more information on the Mets' epic collapse.  In addition, this game helped Kim's former team Arizona Diamondbacks clinch a ticket to the postseason on the same night.[42]
I reversed caknuck's changes because it contained serious errors.  I won't discuss it here further but I already told caknuck.  WestArmyComm (talk) 01:46, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 2007 season and the victory in New York's historic collapse

message: Please stop bunching kim's separate stints with the same team together. It was agreed upon here in topic #36 Baseball player infoboxes that the list of teams should be in chronological order. Jackal4 (talk) 21:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox timeline

message: Quick question about the following line - "Kim remained as a starter through June, but the Red Sox needed him as their closer because the Red Sox's closer-by-committee approach implemented following the advice of the famed baseball statistician and Red Sox adviser Bill James was failing." Can someone actually provide a source for that? I've never seen him advocate closer-by-committee, which is something a team would only do if it didn't have a bullpen ace. James has written at length about using your ace in more important situations than they're currently used in, which would seem to go against the speculation that he somehow pushed the Sox management into building a bullpen out of mediocre pitchers with no defined roles.  Jason moyer (talk) 12:16, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Bill James?

message: What is a "four-seam fastball"?  Fastball, not especially technical, is blue-linked, but what is the thing about four-seam?  Does it mean he has fingers on seams on four different  places on the ball when he releases it?211.225.33.104 (talk) 23:49, 17 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed link to point to the four-seam fastball article instead. Spanneraol (talk) 03:16, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unexplained technical term 

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