Talk:Ahmed Deedat

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thread_title:  Sources modified on [[Ahmed Deedat]] 

message: Hi GorgeCustersSabre 
I added more material to the 'Ahmed Deedat' wikipedia page, focused on two sections: the 'Debate' section, and 'Criticism' section. 
Could you let me know why the material has temporarily been removed? 
It is factual and I referenced it all closely; my main source being Ahmed Deedat's official biography 'Ahmed Deedat: The Man and His Mission', 2013, by Goolam Vahed. I gave the specific page numbers in the biography to show where the information came from. 
Thanks and best regards, 
Ballymore1 (talk) 20:52, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Dear Ballymore1, I hope you are well. Few of your additions or changes were based on reliable, authoritative, and neutral third-party sources, which are essential. Blogs or the Digest won't do. Wikipedia requires proper sources. Two good sets of Wikipedia guidelines that I have found really useful can be found HERE and HERE. I've kept in the Vahed-based statements for now, but have modified them for brevity, clarity and neutrality, and I've take out the partisan Digest quotes. Just because Vahed quotes them does not change their nature. They are partisan and highly subjective. Yours, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 03:38, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Dear Ballymore1, I hope your day was nice. Thanks for your thorough reply. Yes, let's proceed along the lines you have outlined above. My key concern was really about the Digest, which was a rubbishy source reflecting a strongly partisan viewpoint. We shouldn't cite it or quote it as if it's a reliable source containing objective and factual statements. My thanks and best wishes, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 16:16, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: Ahmed Deedat debated John Gilchrist, a South African Christian lawyer from Benoni, in 1975 on the topic of Jesus's crucifixion. 
Following their 1975 debate, Deedat made defamatory personal remarks against Gilchrist that, after refusing to publicly apologise for, led to court action and him having to pay damages of R2 138 (including court costs) to GilchristVahed, Goolam; Ahmed Deedat: The Man and his mission, 2013, Islamic Propagation Centre International (IPCI); Page 152. 
The two became engaged in long-term rivalry, with Gilchrist going on to found the South African 'Jesus to Muslims’ organisation writing many Christian tracts and responses to Deedat’s leaflets and books, which Deedat in turn then often responded toVahed, Goolam; Ahmed Deedat: The Man and his mission, 2013, Islamic Propagation Centre International (IPCI); Page 252.
Again, thanks for your help in keeping the page as neutral and informative as possible. 
Best regards, 
Ballymore1 (talk) 13:50, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Dear Ballymore1, I hope your day was nice. Thanks for your thorough reply. Yes, let's proceed along the lines you have outlined above. My key concern was really about the Digest, which was a rubbishy source reflecting a strongly partisan viewpoint. We shouldn't cite it or quote it as if it's a reliable source containing objective and factual statements. My thanks and best wishes, George Custer's Sabre (talk) 16:16, 30 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Debate and rivalry with John Gilchrist

message: Now the articles is focusing more on Deedat’s debates: shouldn’t we use this text of Frederick Copleston in it?Jeff5102 (talk) 09:46, 31 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copleston 

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