Talk:The Hallelujah Trail

message: It's highly unlikely the original single negative would have been optically divided into three strips for conventional Cinerama projection. If nothing else, the film's aspect ratio is about 2.2:1, which isn't anywhere nearly wide enough to justify such a thing. WilliamSommerwerck (talk) 19:25, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I actually saw The Hallelujah Trail in New York City during its original release and three projectors were definitely used to exhibit the film.  It's the only Cinerama film I've ever seen in a theatre so I'm not mixing it up with something else, it absolutely was shown that way and made a tremendous impact on me as a result.  I'm responding because this has bothered me for some years since whenever I happen to look the film up somewhere, there is no mention of this, almost as though I'm a character from a Jack Finney time travel novel who briefly inhabited a parallel universe.  Trust me (and I know that actually having seen the movie myself would probably qualify as "original research" under Wikipedia rules), it was exhibited with three projectors whose beams crossed, one for the left third of the screen, one for the middle third, and one for the right third of the screen. Cinerama Comment (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 13:04, 2 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: As usual wiki is wrong again. "The Hallelujah Trail" was shot in Ultra Panavision 70 with a single camera but presented by selected theatres in Super Cinerama, a process that actually uses three prints and therefore of course three projectors. The main difference to the original Cinerama was that the three projectors were not spread over the back of the room but rather combined in a single booth. So, user Cinerama Comment is right, maybe he can verify the single booth.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.115.75.230 (talk) 09:20, 1 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No it is not. I can only provide this source in german http://filmlexikon.uni-kiel.de/index.php?action=lexikon&tag=det&id=2242 an online lexicon for movie terminology by the university of Kiel. The original Cinerama process was too limited and complicated for the filming of features and thus was abandoned. Super Cinerama was a workaround for the specially designed Cinerama theaters and their curved projection screens that made use of three prints. As the filming was done by a single camera and therefore only from one angle of view separate booths no longer were required. Check out the technical specifications on imdb for various movies and you will find 35mm, 70mm, and Super Cinerama given for the printed film formats. No distributor would have gone to the expense of providing a third single print format just for a handful of venues, he would have told owners to scrap their equipment and convert their theaters to 70mm. Also, no regular customer would have paid good money to see a presentation he could get for less in any ordinary theater. Please note the statement from user Cinerama Comment, he writes "it was exhibited with three projectors whose beams crossed", this indicates exactly Super Cinerama. It might be redundant, but the article fails to mention it, Cinerama was a filming process as well as an exhibition process, using 3 cameras and 3 projectors in 3 booths, whereas Super Cinerama was only an exhibition process, using 3 projectors in one booth, the filming provided by any single camera process – preferably 70mm – and split up into 3 prints.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.115.35.98 (talk) 18:29, 13 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: 3-projector Cinerama?

message: It may be noted that, in the film's opening credits, 26 cast members are listed. Below is a reproduction of the form in which the cast is indicated:
the MirischCorporation   presents
   BurtLancaster
   LeeRemick
Jim Hutton
Pamela  Tiffin
John Sturges'              the Hallelujah Trail
  DonaldPleasence
BrianKeith
 Co–StarringMartin LandauJohn Anderson
Tom Stern (actor)Robert J. Wilke
WITHDub Taylor                      Noam PitlikWhit Bissell                  Billy BenedictHelen Kleeb               Hope SommersVal Avery                      Ted Markland
Larry DuranJerry GatlinMarshall ReedJames Burk (actor)John McKee (actor)Bing RussellBuff BradyCarl Pitti
The on-screen closing credits, however, list names of only the first 11 cast members, in reverse order from that of the opening credits. Each of the 11 cast members, starting with Dub Taylor and ending with Burt Lancaster, is depicted in a very brief film clip showing the actor in close-up or medium shot, with the actor's name and the name of the character he played printed at the bottom of the screen. The character names of the remaining 15 cast members are not shown on-screen. Below is a reproduction of the form in which the cast is depicted in the closing credits:
*Dub Taylor as Clayton Howell
*Robert J. Wilke as Chief 5 Barrels
*Tom Stern (actor) as Kevin O'Flaherty
*John Anderson (actor) as Sergeant Buell
*Martin Landau as Walks-Stooped-Over
*Brian Keith as Frank Wallingham
*Donald Pleasence as Oracle Jones
*Pamela Tiffin as Louise Gearhart
*Jim Hutton as Captain Paul Slater
*Lee Remick as Cora Templeton Massingale
*Burt Lancaster as Colonel Thaddeus Gearhart
                                                                                                              Roman Spinner (talk • contribs) 07:28, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Cast listing in the closing credits does not follow the same billing order as in the opening credits