Talk:Psych

message: I'm moving two sections of trivia over here as original research:
*The concept pokes fun at Johnny Smith, the authentically-psychic protagonist of another USA Network series, The Dead Zone.  USA Network ran an advertisement starring Anthony Michael Hall and James Roday as their respective characters, comparing the merits of their respective talents, only to realize that their lot could be worse when they overhear Adrian Monk counting out 100 individual kernels of corn (and returning the excess three).  Spencer's partner and comic foil Gus also seems very much like a mirror to Johnny's friend and confidant Bruce, and Shawn's working relationship with the Santa Barbara Police Department mimicks Johnny's involvement with the Cleaves Mill PD.
*The series also borrows elements from the Sherlock Holmes mythos; Shawn's ability to deduce whole crimes from the most obscure details puts him firmly in the Sherlock role, with Gus as his Watson, with Lassiter, O'Hara, and Vick in the roles of the various Scotland Yard inspectors that approached Holmes for help. Lassiter's name is very close to the most well-known Scotland Yard detective in the Holmes canon, Inspector Lestrade; like Lestrade with Holmes, Lassiter is exasperated by Shawn's effectiveness because he does not understand Shawn's methods.
--TorriTorri 04:46, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research 

message: Anne Dudek should not be listed as a main cast member.  She only appeared in one episode and her character was scrapped after that.  Therefore, she cannot be listed as a main cast member, because that would be false. LocalContributor281 (talk) 01:57, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: she was credited with the main cast in the one episode she appeared in, this makes her main cast per MOS:TVCAST. This is the standard, see similar examples at The 100 with Kelly Hu or List of Lost characters (the people in the recurring chart listed as starring in the final episode), there's plenty more. TheDoctorWho (talk) 02:39, 26 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: To me, that is still not a legitimate excuse to putting her before everyone else who was, in fact, a main cast member.  Putting her before others confuses the reader into thinking she's the tetaragonist of the show when in reality, she's not.  The very least that I find acceptable is making a note in the infobox that she only appeared in the pilot.  If not, then this would be totally misleading. LocalContributor281 (talk) 06:24, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: In addition, I'm trying to bring in User:Peteforsyth so that he can take a look at this.  He's contributed since 2006, so I'm sure he'll come up with a reasonable plan to sort this out. LocalContributor281 (talk) 06:28, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's not an "excuse" it is the valid reason why she belongs in there, she was credited BEFORE Bernsen in the pilot who was also a main cast member so that eliminates your above point. Anyways, I've left a detailed response on the talk page of the user you linked. TheDoctorWho (talk) 07:24, 28 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm responding to the request above. This is not an area I've edited in much, so my opinions probably aren't worth too much. IMO  has done a good job, here and on my user talk page, describing Wikipedia's decision making process, and citing past precedent. I do think it's important to keep in mind that sometimes a rigid rule does not apply well in a specific case, and it sounds like that's the position  is taking here. I always try to keep in mind, what is the best way to ensure that a reader gets the information they want/need? To me that's the most important consideration in a case like this. Since I'm not too familiar with the show or the characters, though, I can't say what's the best way to implement that principle in this case. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 01:43, 29 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you. I was going to start a discussion about Dudek in the infobox, but lucky for me someone else had already done so fairly recently. Just because it's in the MOS doesn't mean it has to be done. That's what WP:IAR is for. For example, I recently started a move discussion because I noticed there were a lot of articles that did not comply with MOS:VATITLE. Even though the guidelines say that the pages should be moved, the consensus is clear that the MOS is actually wrong and that the MOS should be changed instead. The same thing could apply here.  Bait30  Talk 2 me pls? 07:46, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove Anne Dudek from the infobox 

message: ...is really a list of random trivia and OR. Can anyone help bring it up to snuff? Just Another Cringy Username (talk) 04:33, 11 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production section 

message: Shawn and Gus are the top main characters of Psych TrenholmA02363703 (talk) 16:53, 4 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Psych Main Characters