Talk:Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force

message: The article which is locked for editing by "normal" public does not mention any worthy information of IRIAF fights or its significance during the Saddam onslaught and overall the depiction is of a negative nature. Various sources exist on the net both in persian and in english that would explain the IRIAF role during the conflict including the IRIAF being capable to stop Iraqi advances at the beginning of the war by conducting operations Kaman99, Red Alert, and Alborz. Even video interviews of the pilots are on the net and their published stories are ingored, instead the "locked article" has sufficed to say that 60 Iranain planes were shot down in just one operation which does not give the name of without giving a source even a weak one. The article does not mention sources for any IRIAF deficiencies and shortcomings or depends entirely on western sources of guestimation since western sources can not be relied due to them having no access to the reality on the ground. It does not mention that IRIAF was upagainst several forces at once supporting directly or indirectly Saddam like Russia and Soviet pilots, US navy, Saudi arabia and others. While the article is quick to give "estimates" of lowest possible inventory and playing aside western opinion of showing IRIAF as a weak force and giving "accurate" numbers of planes lost it does not give any data whatsoever of the number of planes Iran has shot down not even  estimates. Over all the article is biased to american point of view. I am sorry but that is the fact.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 119.154.37.181 (talk) 16:18, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor History of IRIAF combat during Iran-Iraq war with Iraq, US and others  

message: Embraer EMB 312 Tucano that is listed here as trainers are trainers for the IRGC AF and the Chinese movie star F7s also belong to IRGC AF. I have no quotation. I leave it to you guys to make the changes if you want.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Magician 60 (talk • contribs) 04:27, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Planes belonging to IRGC AF  

message: If anyone has the time to lengthen this check out ACIG.org and the works by Tom Cooper Pickle 04:12, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Work 

message: It says there's a main article for history, but at a quick glance, the history section on this page seems more detailed than what I see in the history article itself.BabyNuke 17:52, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History? 

message: Written from an Iranian POV. Describes terrotorial gains in war as "liberation". Description of Iran's airforce in Iran-Iraq conflict is boastful. Operational capabilites of current air foils in use by Iran is exagerrated.
See http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f14_6.html for instance (but not limited) to an account of how poorly the iranian air force was maintained during the war. F-14s were being used as RADAR platforms, not as fighting machines -- this is widely claimed in many sources.
*This isn't entirely true. Primarily F-14 were used in Radar picket and AEW roles, there are several reports of IRIAF Tomcats intercepting engaging Iraqi aircraft. I have some hard copy files that reference this. I'll post the references when I find them. (Bobbo9000 03:28, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not neutral 

message: As of yet, there has been nothing concrete about the IRIAF acquiring any Su-27/30 at all. There has been a bit of speculation about this, but still nothing confirmed from either the manufacturer or the IRIAF. I don't believe there should any reference to the Su-27s even if they're for evaluation purposes  as these reports are all hearsay. The IRIAF is interested in these aircraft, but that shouldn't mean instant inclusion into this artile.
If someone has something concrete, could they post any links here or reference them appropriately? Also, please make sure the articles are accurate and not conjecture (A recent addition to the Su-30 page had a link to a conservative Israeli newspaper website claiming  deal for 250+ Su-30s, however this story has recently been proven false.) (Bobbo9000 03:25, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sukhoi Su-27/30  

message: The article for the Safari states it's a swedish designed plane, and Saab is a swedish company... even if the planes were assembled elsewhere country of origin should still read as sweden.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.96.45 (talk) 22:26, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saab Safari 

message: There is too much vandalism around on this artickle, specially by unregistered users to the inventory list. So I will be reverting all these vandalism edits every time. The Honorable Kermanshahi (talk) 19:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As will I. A large part of the vandalism is from this user, as you can see.—DMCer™ 15:15, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Thanks, it was much-needed.—DMCer™ 08:52, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: I don't think this article is necessary because there already is the a aircraft inventory table in the article Iranian Air Force and most of this is out of date. In the Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force infobox we can place Islamic Republic of Iran Air Force#Aircraft inventory  --EZ1234 (talk) 04:00, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See comment left on that talk page. --Rlandmann (talk) 06:57, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove [[List of Iranian Air Force aircraft]]. 

message: Why would China be selling the IRIAF the J-10 so the IRIAF could have Russian AL-31FNs installed?? This makes no sense. This would mean the Chinese would be losing sales to a competitor on one of their own military sales. (192.43.227.18 (talk) 06:58, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  J-10s?? 

message: Here's an interesting publication on Russian arms sales to Iran during 2000-2008:  One thing I noted was the item "30 Su-24MK Frontal Bomber Mid-Life Repair and Upgrade." According to our article Iran has only 24 Su-24 planes. What do you think of this new info? Offliner (talk) 13:37, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Publication on Russian sales to Iran 

message: This article is another example of how wikipedia is used for propaganda purposes to suit Western interests. The article is locked so that western POV remains as authoritative. there is no mention of US support for Iraqis specially US airforce which was advising Saddam at the time against Iran as has been investigated manytimes and most recently in the documentary: Saddam Hussain, the trial you will never see". France USA, Russia Germany and England and Saudi were all helping Saddam.
Furthermore, in the article it is written :"The strikes were met by fierce defensive tactics by the Iraqi forces, with as many as 60 Iranian aircraft shot down. Intense Iranian activity inside Iraqi airspace during the first week of the war proved unsuccessful. The IRIAF paid a heavy price, losing dozens of its best pilots and aircraft in the period between September and December 1980."  For this info not a shred of citation is provided as the info coming out of the gut feeling of Americans and their agent Saddam. If you have it in you put up some credible evidence. Photos of the 60 aircrafts shot down and reported by news agencies in Iraq or West at the time. You liars. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.243.204.81 (talk) 02:13, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is only semi-protected, so that most registered users can edit it. If you want, you can register and quite easily become autoconfirmed, so that you can edit this article. Also, if you don't want to do that, you can request change to this page using  template. Svick (talk) 10:29, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Shameful depiction of IRIAF in favor of USA and Saddam

message: Today news has came out of Iran that the only Operational Il-76 AEW collided with a Trainer during the preparation for a parade and is completely destroyed. --Thegunkid, also the AWAC system it had on-board was replaced with a Iranian made system and was fully operational at the time of the Crash. (talk) 15:59, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Status of the Il-76 AEW 

message: this site: [Haaretz] has an article from the Israeli newspaper Haaretz about this air force.Agre22 (talk) 13:20, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Haaretz's article

message: Does anyone have any information on Iran's first unmanned bomber called the Karrar (or striker) and can add it to the chart? See Forbes . EdEColbertLet me know 09:10, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Doesnt appear to be much information which is probably why it and all of the other Iranian UAVs have not been listed. MilborneOne (talk) 10:27, 22 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Karrar

message: Iranian Navy received 6 RH-53Ds mine sweepers that were acquired before the Iranian Revolution. Iran also gained four to five more RH-53s during Operation Eagle Claw. Islamic Republic of Iran Navy Aviation has 2 RH-53Ds in use as of January 2010.
Ukiocsmo (talk) 14:56, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a reliable source to verify this? Feel free to restore the edit semi-protected tag when you have this source. Hope this helps. Set Sail For The Seven Seas 332° 6' 30" NET 22:08, 4 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Ukiocsmo, 4 November 2010 

message: In the third para, "Mosul Airbae" should be corrected to "Mosul Airbase", which is obviously what is meant/  75.252.160.194 (talk) 02:10, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iran-Iraq War 

message: In the third para, "Mosul Airbae" should be corrected to "Mosul Airbase", which is obviously what is meant/  75.252.160.194 (talk) 02:10, 4 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iran-Iraq War 

message: At the end of the current article this false line is present:
"Air attack to Osirak power plant, recognized as the first air attack to a nuclear facility."
However, everybody knows the iraqi Osirak-Opera raid was done by zionist F-15 and F-16 warplanes, not by the peaceful Iran. Islamic Iran never attacked anybody in its history, it was always attacked by others! 82.131.210.163 (talk) 12:03, 5 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, but this (Operation Scorch Sword is listed directly above. As Iran had no involvement in the Israeli operation, there is no justification for accrediting the Iranian airforce. I am therefore removing Operation Opera from the list.  As an aside, can people please read up on Wiki guidelines for talk pages please? It makes everybody's life and job easier, thanks. Mongoletsi (talk) 11:45, 14 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nuclear slander in article against IRIAF. 

message: نیروی هوایی ایران در زمان خود نیروی هوایی مقتدری بود و بیش از 800 فروند هواپیما و جنگنده را دارا بود. در طول جنگ ایران 260 فروند از جنگنده های خود را از دست دادو نیروی هوایی عراق 400 فروند از جنگنده های خود را از دست داد به خصوص میگ های خود را از دست داد  بعد از این رویداد ایران نیروی هوایی با قدرت 550 فروندی را داشت و بعد با کمک روسیه و چین این رقم را به 650 فروندی تبدیل کرد که 400 فروند آن ها جنگنده بودند.هواپیما های فروخته شده با تعداد:
ایلوشین-76 15 فروند/ شیانگ اف-6 18 فروند/ سوخو-27 20 فروند/ سوخو-30 15 فروند.
در این معادلات جنگنده های پناهنده عراقی نیز دخالت دارد.2.176.183.35 (talk) 16:08, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  وضعیت نیروی هوایی ایران در پس از جنگ 

message: Frogfoots are not on the chart. One attacked a drone a few weeks ago.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.42.97.231 (talk) 22:16, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The su25 

message: In the list of "aircraft flown"  Y-12 should be corrected to Harbin_Y-12. Laor (talk) 18:46, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Y-12 

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message: States IRIAF has 3 C-130's, Satellite images show clearly at least 4 at an Iranian Airbase (here: 35.683618, 51.313538).
Wafflecakes999 (talk) 10:19, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Topher385 (talk) 21:52, 17 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 17 August 2016 

message: I have this source to add about MiG-29 in IRIAF : https://sputniknews.com/military/201501201017120106/
According to it, there are at least 40 of these planes in IRIAF. 92.90.75.192 (talk) 16:50, 26 November 2016 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 26 November 2016 

message: The number mentioned in the article (cited from Flight Global) is very low. I have observed much more flying serial numbers personally (documented in taken photos). This page estimates the number to be 19 (http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/iran/airforce-equipment.htm). I don't suggest 19 to be true, but 3 is not either. Sarmadys (talk) 16:23, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  C-130 numbers 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello
I'm not much used to Wiki, but I'll try :)
I have this source with additionnal info on Iran AF fleet that seems recent and worth adding...
 Karach3 (talk) 08:21, 20 July 2018 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 20 July 2018 

message: "wolrd" = "world" 2605:E000:9149:A600:3114:D79F:64C6:D378 (talk) 05:13, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Already done Danski454 (talk) 06:11, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 August 2018 

message: There is no SU-35 in IRIAF in fighter's arsenal at the moment 98.98.156.34 (talk) 00:33, 30 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for pointing this out, I have removed the Su-35 from the infobox since the listed sources didn't support the claim that it was in service. It is still useful to list it as future equipment in the Equipment table, but better sources (ie. ones that don't cite the Iranian government) should be used to support any claims of active service. TROPtastic (talk) 23:49, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  SU-35 Not introduced to airforce YET!