Talk:Organization development

message: Flaw in the beginning of the text
"Organization development (OD) is a planned, organization-wide effort to increase an organization's effectiveness and viability." only to be followed a few sentences later by: 
"The term "Organization Development" is often used interchangeably with Organizational effectiveness". 
I removed the sentence. While "development" is an effort and not a property, "effectiveness" is a property - therefore they cannot be used "interchangeably". I am not an expert in the field, so if I missed a point please reverse my post.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by Postdeborinite (talk • contribs) 08:07, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: flaw in the beginning of the text

message: This article is extremely incomplete and idiosyncratic. Anyone reading it in search of substantive knowledge about OD will be either misinformed (if they are naive or uninformed on arrival) or will simply disregard it (if they already have some understanding of the topic.) It requires much attention, and if time permits, I (a recognized expert) will return and work on it.
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incomplete?  absolutely.  i was hoping others would come along and help fix it.
idiosyncratic?  thank you!User:Thseamon
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Please take a look at the organizational studies topic - it would be good to merge the two, or at least reference them, in some way. --Goodoldpolonius 03:47, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. (OK, so it took a while). -Willmcw 05:57, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I deleted Kaushik Kumar and Olusegun Samuel from the list, because I couldn't find a trace of them with Google. If anyone has specific information about them and their importance to the field, please let us know. -Willmcw 05:57, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Important figures

message: Once again marked for cleanup.  The article is little more than a series of lists.  It needs content, expansion and explanation.  --Buridan 21:35, 8 April 2006
Brucesinclair (talk) 19:47, 4 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  cleanup 

message: I think that the definition of organization as "two or more people working together toward one or more shared goals" is misleading. This, to me sounds like the definition of group.  See wikipedia article on Group_%28sociology%29. 
If the same definition of group is used for organization, we would be equating a company such as IBM with a group of 3 software engineers working together.  It will also mean that what we know about how a group develops is all we need to know about how a company, an organized religion, or a sports organization develops.  Anybody has a better definition? I recall Robert Bales, a famous researcher of small groups, writing somewhere that the difference between small groups and large groups is that in a small group people are able to remember pretty much everything that was said by everybody in a group interaction.  Btw, I am working on a page on group development if others are interested.
Jsarmi 19:28, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organization = Group 

message: The article suggests, change is only required when an organization is "ill"
There is a direct analogy here to the practice of psychotherapy: The client or patient must actively seek help in finding a solution to his problems.
This, of course, is not true. Many reasons for change exist and having problems may be one of them. A "healthy" organization will still need to change to match the requirements from the changing environment it is operating in, including social, competitive and renewal aspects.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.85.117.14 (talk) 08:03, 30 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change is not (necessarily) related to "problems" 

message: I have a reference to an earlier edition of Organization Development and Transformation: Managing Effective Changethat dates back to 1983, and they talk about 'traditional OD techniques'.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.234.197.105 (talk) 04:08, 19 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  I don't think OD is really very new 

message: I think that we can probably remove the essay tag ("This article is written like a personal reflection, personal essay, or argumentative essay.") by now. What do others think? EMsmile (talk) 03:51, 9 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can the essay tag be removed now?