Talk:Berlin S-Bahn

message: Do we have documentation for the claim in the article that the Nord-Süd-Bahn was flooded by SS troops during the Battle of Berlin? I'm not that knowledgeable about what happened in Berlin during that period, but it's always been my understanding that exactly what happened with this flooding -- including who is responsible, the Germans or the Allies -- is not definitely known. --Tkynerd 15:17, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flooding of the Nord-Süd-Bahn? 

message: An anonymous editor just changed the number of stations from 165 to 166, using "update" as the edit summary.  Has a new station opened?  Can anyone cite a source for the number of stations there are? --Jfruh (talk) 16:23, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, I see now that an infill station opened at Berlin Julius-Leber-Brücke railway station this week. --Jfruh (talk) 17:06, 5 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of stations? 

message: Is there a need to have an article for Berlin_Stadtbahn and for Berlin_S-Bahn?  Isn't this the same system?  I really feel that these articles should be merged or redirected to each other.
:Technically, the Stadtbahn is one of the main trunk lines for the S-Bahn (along with the Ringbahn and the Nordsudbahn).  Whether it merits its own article is up for debate but we, for instance, have an article for the Berlin U-Bahn as well as articles for each of the individual lines, so it's not unheard of to give more detailed treatment of one aspect of a subways system in a separate article. --Jfruh (talk) 03:04, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the Ringbahn has its own article too. --Jfruh (talk) 03:05, 5 December 2008 (UTC)

text: The Stadtbahn and the S-Bahn are definitely not the same thing. The Stadtbahn is an elevated east-west railway route across central berlin. It has four tracks and carries passenger trains of all types from S-Bahn to international expresses. The S-Bahn is a network of suburban trains that extends out into the suburbs and uses several different routes across central Berlin, of which the Stadtbahn is only one. Neither is a subset of the other, and overlap is fairly minimal. -- Starbois (talk) 11:19, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger of different articles? 

message: Thanks to Valenciano for adding more detail and cites on the ongoing issues. However I'm not convinced that this section tells the full, unbiased story. It is clear on when problems happened, but not very clear on resolutions.
A rigorous reading of the text would appear to indicate that as of September 2009, only one quarter of previously scheduled trains have operated, and that this position is still not resolved. Having been in Berlin last week, and used the S-Bahn on several occasions, I find that a bit difficult to believe. For example the east-west S-Bahn line through the centre (on the Stadtbahn) was running 18 trains per hour (2 routes at 10 minute intervals, and 2 at 20 minute intervals). If that is only a quarter of the pre-2009 schedule, this would imply 72 trains per hour, or a train every 50 seconds!.
I'm quite happy to believe that there are still problems, but clearly there has also been some degree of recovery from the worst of 2009. How best to explain this?. -- Starbois (talk) 11:09, 3 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As it happens, just saw an article that answered this. Apparently by Spring this year, they were running 420 train sets compared to 500 needed for a full service. That is a 16% reduction, still an issue, but a lot less than the 75% reduction that the article was implying was still the case, and passes the reductio ad abserdum test that I applied above. I have updated the section with a cite. -- Starbois (talk) 13:00, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  2009 service reductions 

message: What does "daily ridership" mean?  "Ridership" isn't an English or a German word.
:"Ridership" is an English word used in transit contexts to mean "number of riders." See this document from the American Public Trasportation Assocation, for instance. --Jfruh (talk) 02:24, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: 'Ridership'

message: The only route diagramme visible by default on the page is of the planned line S21, but that is just captioned, as part of the Infobox there, "Berlin S-Bahn".  It really isn't clear enough that it is the planned line (it is only when you edit the page that it becomes crystal clear that it is within the an infobox in the section "Planning of line S21 (Second Nord-Süd Bahn: first stage)", and I spent quite some time looking at it confused, because it didn't seem to fit with what I knew or other diagrammes and wasn't sufficiently explained.  I can't see any way to change the caption for the infobox, and am not sure how else to make it less confusing, apart from just deleting/hiding it all.  DrArsenal (talk) 09:57, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It wast simply a matter of adding |name=Proposed Line S21 to the . Useddenim (talk) 10:32, 7 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Easy when you know how.  Thanks.  DrArsenal (talk) 21:50, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox Route Diagramme for proposed line S21 

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thread_title:  new S-Bahn line: S15 soon