Talk:List of districts and neighborhoods in Los Angeles

message: Shouldn't Silver Lake and Sunset Junction be under Hollywood Area not Rampart Area?
Well thats somewhat subjective, although the Hollywood border is well east of Sunset/Hollywood boulevard split most would place the border with East Hollywood at that intersection.  If the gentrification keeps up the northern parts of Rampart can be renamed New Westside.
Rampart Area generally refers to areas within the Rampart Division of the LAPD. Silver Lake is in the Northeast Division, not the Rampart Division. nobodynose 20:55, 28 Oct 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Old comments

message: I'm starting an article, Mid-City Los Angeles, to describe the area of the city bounded by La Cienega, Melrose, Western, and the Santa Monica Freeway. --Slightlyslack 09:56, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New "Mid-City Los Angeles" article 

message: This would be more helpful if it covered not just the LA city limits, but LA county.  City vs. district vs. neighborhood matters very little to most people, and it seems odd not to include things like Burbank or Pasadena.
:It's a tricky issue. We struggle a lot with deciding how to fit articles and categories into the L.A. city/L.A. county/L.A. region, and vice versa. In this instance, Los Angeles County, California has a comprehensive list of cities and unincorporated places in the county, and is linked from this article, but it does not include districts of cities in the county. I suppose we can do a better job of organizing and interlinking the various lists of places. We might also create some kind of huge all-inclusive L.A. County places list, with both cities and their neighborhoods, CDPs, real estate names ("Beverly Hills Post Office"), etc. It'd be dull reading, but useful as a reference. The information does not change quickly. -Will Beback 09:16, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The information is also available in the categories. :Category:Los Angeles County communities covers everything. -Will Beback 09:18, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greater LA 

message: I'm not seeing the discussion that goes with the NPOV tag? Lisamh 18:32, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see the race/ethnicity section as being biased or anything, though the language could be more professional/encyclopedic. Maybe it needs to acknowledge Jewish presence? Haonhien 08:31, 28 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  what is the neutrality issue? 

message: It would help a lot to have a map showing at least approximate neighborhood boundaries, and other major features. -- Beland 01:46, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I found a great one at the Library of Texas collection, a little old though, but gives you the general idea. There is also a highway map on commons --Astrokey44 03:03, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately that map doesn't show a single district or neighborhood of the city of Los Angeles. -Will Beback · † · 03:13, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I had no idea there was map request for this page, anyways I created this map but when i upload it the quality of it suffers immensely. I have tried to upload 2 versions, one with names and one without. The one with no names acquires black rectangles at certain places and the one with names has the names distorted. So far this is a rough map and am hoping that we can improve the quality and get rid of the glitches. Jorobeq 22:03, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, ive created and uploaded a new map. If you have any suggestion, criticisms, etc, please let me know. Jorobeq 22:04, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

text: There is a map here, but it includes more than just the city neighborhoods. GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:16, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: (15 years later) Where is the map? 173.88.246.138 (talk) 07:02, 27 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map request 

message: I added the Flower District reference to the list of neighborhood areas.  Am unskilled in Wiki and asking for others to add info re: the various flower market major locations, thanks.- xibee  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Xibee (talk • contribs) 19:09, 8 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Flower District

message: Hidden as long, unreferenced list. Click to show.
# Angeles Mesa
# Angelino Hgts
# Arleta
# Arlington Heights, Los Angeles
# Arlington Park, Los Angeles
# Artist District* 
# Arts District, Los Angeles 
# Athens on the Hill
# Atwater Village, Los Angeles
# Baldwin Hills, Los Angeles
# Baldwin Hills Estates
# Baldwin Village, Los Angeles
# Baldwin Vista, Los Angeles
# Bel Air, Los Angeles
# Beverlywood, Los Angeles
# Boyle Heights, Los Angeles
# Brentwood, Los Angeles
# Brentwood Glen, Los Angeles
# Brentwood Village, ? redirects to Brentwood, Los Angeles
# Broadway Square
# Broadway Theater District
# Brookside, Los Angeles, California**
# Cahuenga Pass
# Cameo Plaza
# Canoga Park
# Canterbury Knolls
# Carthay Circle
# Carthay Square
# Central City
# Century City
# Century Cove
# Century Palms
# Chatsworth
# Chesterfield Square
# Cheviot Hills
# Chinatown
# Civic Center
# Country Club Park
# Crenshaw District
# Crenshaw Manor
# Crestview
# Cypress Park
# Del Rey
# Downtown Center**
# Downtown Industrial District
# Eagle Rock
# Echo Park
# El Sereno
# Elysian Valley
# Encino
# Fairfax Village
# Fashion District
# Franklin Hills
# Franklin Village**
# Furniture & Decorative Arts District
# Gallery Row
# Garvanza
# Glassell Park
# Granada Hills
# Green Meadows, Los Angeles, California
# Hancock Park
# Happy Valley
# Harbor City
# Harbor Gateway
# Hermon
# Highland Park
# Hillside Village**
# Historic Core District
# Historic Downtown
# Historic Filipinotown
# Hollywood
# Hollywood Heights
# Hyde Park
# Jefferson Park
# Jewelry District
# King Estates
# Koreatown
# La Cienega Heights**
# La Tuna Canyon
# Larchmont Village
# Lake Balboa
# Lake View Terrace
# Larchmont Village
# Leimert Park
# Lincoln Heights****
# Lincoln Hts****
# Little Armenia
# Little Ethiopia
# Little Tokyo
# Los Feliz
# Los Feliz Village
# Magnolia Square
# Manchester Square
# Mar Vista
# Mariachi Plaza
# Marina Peninsula
# Melrose Hill
# Mid-City
# Miracle Mile
# Miracle Mile District
# Mission Hills
# Montecito Heights
# Monterey Hills
# Morningside Circle
# Mount Angelus
# Mt. Washington
# Museum Row on the Miracle Mile***
# NoHo Arts District
# North Hills
# Northridge
# North University Park
# North Village Westwood
# Old Bank District
# Pacoima
# Palms, Los Angeles, California
# Panorama City
# Park Mile
# Parkside Manor
# Pico – Union
# Playa Del Rey
# Rancho Park
# Reseda
# Rose Hills
# Sherman Oaks
# Silver Lake
# Solano Canyon
# South Carthay
# South Los Angeles
# Studio City
# St. Andrews Square
# Sun Valley
# Sunland
# Sylmar
# Tarzana
# Tarzana Safari Walk
# Thai Town
# Toluca Lake
# Toluca Terrace
# Toluca Woods
# Toy District
# Tujunga
# University Expo Park West
# University Hills
# Valley Glen
# Valley Village
# Van Nuys
# Venice
# Vermont Knolls
# Vermont Vista
# Village Green
# Virgil Village
# Watts
# West Adams, Los Angeles
# West Adams Heights, Los Angeles
# West Hills
# West Park Terrace
# West Toluca Lake
# Westwood Village
# Westchester
# Westdale
# Westside Village
# Wilmington
# Wilshire Center
# Wilshire Park
# Windsor Square
# Windsor Village
# Winnetka
# Woodland Hills
* Sign exists, though the community has been clarified as the “Arts District”
** Not on original list of June 2005.
*** Green; joint with LA County
**** Lincoln Heights has two version of the sign, but it’s still one community.
Officially designated communities where the signs are missing, cannot be found (have yet to be photographed), or have yet to be installed:]]
# Arroyo View Estates
# North Hollywoood
# Pacific Palisades, Los Angeles
# San Pedro, Los Angeles, California
# Shadow Hills
# Westwood
Source: http://lacitynerd.blogspot.com/2007/05/officially-designated-communities-of.html jengod 15:46, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Links - List 

message: Renaming the article to "Districts and neighborhoods of Los Angeles" is more appropriate than having an article devoted to a list.  The article pretty much grew into an encyclopedic review of Los Angeles communities.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infernalfox (talk • contribs) 23:59, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename the article to just "Districts and neighborhoods of Los Angeles" 

message: It says in the article "the city (of L.A.)  has not officially defined the boundaries of those communities". If so, which criteria follows the mentioning of neighborhoods and their arrangement to larger city areas in this article? I don't want to be too critical about this, but I'm just interested and it seems to me, that this is not totally clarified in the text. --Gamgee (talk) 11:36, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arrangement of neighborhoods and districts 

message: The San Fernando Valley section of this article says, "It comprises about forty percent of the city's area and population." If you go to the San Fernando Valley article, it says, "More than half of the land area of the city of Los Angeles lies within the San Fernando Valley." Obviously both statements can't be true. Just from looking at a map I'm inclined to believe the second statement, but I'm not going to change the article just based on that. Hopefully someone knows where to find a reliable source for this.Thatotherperson (talk/contribs) 21:51, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You're comparing apples and oranges.  The first state how much of the Valley comprises LA proper; the second states how much of the Valley is within LA.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Infernalfox (talk • contribs) 22:34, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: What? The second statement is clearly talking about how much of Los Angeles is within the Valley, not how much of the Valley is in L.A. I think you read it backwards.Thatotherperson (talk/contribs) 21:59, 5 May 2011 (UTC)

text: I finally bothered to look it up, or rather I calculated it myself using the land area numbers from this article and this web page. Turns out, 47.9% of Los Angeles is in the San Fernando Valley. I'll fix both pages.Thatotherperson (talk/contribs) 13:12, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size of the San Fernando Valley 

message: I find this entry a mess. I came here to rapidly determine in which city counsel district I reside in order to navigate to my incumbent councilman's website. For those growing numbers of us who rely heavily on Wiki, this title is an obvious starting point for such a search. However, the term "district" is used so offhand here that it isn't even clear if the red boundary lines on the map view "larger map" represent Los Angeles' chartered governmental districts, zip codes, area code regions or what. The left column list provides traditional names, but doesn't indicate each district's official number designation. A visitor might even want to know locate "the 6th District" sooner than discover its traditional name. Where is this information? Can anybody look at that map and easily point out, say, the 4th District? After all, the title of this entry includes the keyword "districts." Lastly, it would be a great asset to include links to each District's official website, assuming incumbents don't change them... Or, if so, a search function script could work in the background to auto-search for the current site's URL and reset the link to it. Mykstor (talk) 17:53, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want information on city council districts, your best bet would be to look for the official website of the Los Angeles City Council. The word "district" can refer to more than just official voting districts, and this article is about areas of Los Angeles that have their own names. By the way, that map is from 1970 and the red lines are freeways.Thatotherperson (talk/contribs) 12:44, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked it up for you. Here's the official website of the City of Los Angeles (link) and here's the City Council section (link). The first link has a box called "Neighborhood Resources" where you can type in your address to find out what Council District you live in. The second link has contact information and links to boundary maps.Thatotherperson (talk/contribs) 12:57, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The article has been refashioned since the above was written. GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:25, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  City Council Districts 

message: Serious suggestion: Use the L.A. Times Mapping L.A. pages to define the L.A. City and County neighborhoods within Wikipedia. http://projects.latimes.com/mapping-la/neighborhoods/. I would be glad to start the makeover (through article rewrites and redireccts) if this procedure gains consensus here or elsewhere. Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:14, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Support—I think that this is an excellent idea.  It would be good to have an agreed-on single standard for neighborhood boundaries and the LAT understands the issues and takes them seriously.  I once had someone tell me on a talk page that West Los Angeles started at Alvarado Street, which is not OK.  I will be happy to follow your lead and help out with such a makeover.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 19:19, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any geographic region you would prefer to begin with? I have already done Sunland-Tujunga, Los Angeles and Hyde Park, Los Angeles, although there is great room for improvement in both those articles. GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:28, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: None in particular.  What exactly did you do to those articles using mapping LA?  I couldn't quite sort it out from the page history.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 22:58, 29 December 2012 (UTC)

text: The LAT list was developed with a great deal of input from all kinds of people, including local historians and neighborhood councils. Not everybody was satisifed, but, really, the LAT list is now the de facto list of city and county neighborhoods. GeorgeLouis (talk) 16:17, 4 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use Mapping L.A. as reliable source? 

message: * MacArthur Park (formerly Westlake Park) is a park and is located within the Westlake district. It is not a district. And actually Pico Union is located within Westlake district, same as Temple-Beaudry district. All noted in the Westlake gneral plan. Unfortunately people seem to know better, especially those who are not living in Los Angeles. Ucla90024 (talk) 02:27, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure what you are suggesting be done. ???? GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:55, 15 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I reverted the addition of MacArthur Park to the list because it is neither a neighborhood nor a district. GeorgeLouis (talk) 01:18, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

text: *MacArthur Park was not an addition, it was merged into Westlake where it belongs since MacArthur Park was Westlake Park. How about Elysian Heights, Elysian Park, Solano Canyon, and Elysian Valley? Aren't all the same? Then there is Edendale, which is now part of Echo Park. Ucla90024 (talk) 01:44, 16 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Westlake

message: I would like to alphabetize this list to make it easier for people to find any given neighborhood on it? Does anybody object? GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:25, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be good.  I was going to do some of that earlier today when it popped up on my watchlist, but I got so freaked out over some of the new additions that I couldn't deal with it and had to send something to AfD stat.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 02:32, 27 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth: Who needs such a bare-bones list? Isn't that what categories are for? --Gamgee (talk) 11:49, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  You are correct. There are way too many districts and neighborhoods, small and big. People just throw out names. Ucla90024 (talk) 14:15, 8 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I meant to kindly ask, what's the benefit of such an article compared to :Category:Neighborhoods in Los Angeles, California? Besides, if it says List of districts and neighborhoods of Los Angeles, why include other areas in Los Angeles County? --Gamgee (talk) 07:12, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for asking. That means somebody is paying attention. Well, for one thing, (1) this extant list should have WP:Sources for everything that is on it. Categories don't have that distinction. For another, (2) I believe that to find a category, the reader has to type "Category:" in the search box, which most people don't know about. In fact, having been editing Los Angeles articles for, oh, six years or thereabouts,  this is the first time I have ever been aware of such a description of L.A. neighborhoods. As for "Other areas in Los Angeles County," (3), yes, you are correct, and that should properly be under the "See also" section, which I will do immediately on posting this. GeorgeLouis (talk) 02:23, 12 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alphabetize? 

message: This proposal is pretty wrong-headed. A lead (or lede) is supposed to serve "as an introduction to the article and a summary of its most important aspects." Whatever is in the article should be summarized, so if the racial composition is included in the article and the essence of that composition is important, then the measurement of that composition should be part of the lead. It cannot be denied that the racial composition of any neighborhood is important to that neighborhood and to the city at large, therefore if the racial characteristics are mentioned in the story (as they should be) then they should also be a part of the lead (so that the reader can quickly grasp exactly what kind of a neighborhood it is). This is not a matter of "good" or "bad," but a simple description of the facts.
The same reasoning goes for the rest of the lead: It should sum up the important aspects of the story, no matter what they are. GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:55, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Defense: (Insert here main argument for keeping this practice)

message: :The population characteristics are the most important part of a neighborhood. Without the people liviing there, well, there is really no neighborhood, is there? Yours, GeorgeLouis (talk) 05:55, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Defense: (Insert here main argument for keeping this practice)

message: About where the East side starts.  Perhaps watchers of this page have an opinion?— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 00:51, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The conversation is on the article talk page here: Talk:Eastside_Los_Angeles#New_definition_of_East_Side.— alf laylah wa laylah (talk) 03:22, 9 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutral notification of discussion at [[Talk:Eastside Los Angeles]] 

message: ===Complaint===
The Wilshire Park page has been redirected to Koreatown. All attempts to restore the page have been suppressed by the editor of the Ktown page, with warring and a false complaint about "conflict of interest." The editor has been bullying and threatening anyone who tries to correct this. A new page has been started, immediately tagged by this editor for "speedy deletion." This is suppression. And worse, this is the second time this has occurred - it started in 2010 with the passage of City Council f ile 90-0606, which established the boundaries for Koreatown after strong public protest. Mapping LA's inexplicable and factually unsubstantiated definition of Koreatown has encouraged this kind cyber war. Denying Wilshire Park an identity on Wikipedia is wrong. We are not in Koreatown - we are half a mile from Koreatown with a neighborhood between us and the established boundary. Until Koretown Los Angeles changes its behavior, I would suggest that both Wilshire Park AND Koreatown be removed from this list, since both are now factually incorrect.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by WayBackHomes (talk • contribs) 16:43, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: We have sources attesting to the fact that these areas have been referred to as neighborhoods, or at least listed on a map along with other neighborhoods, so both should remain on this list, with links to the pages wherein they are discussed. There are other WP:Reliable sources besides the Los Angeles Times. For those who object to the boundaries as outlined by the Times, you can try to get your side reported in neighborhood newspapers or responsible websites like http://www.laobserved.com/. Once done, Wikipedia then has a source which can easily be used. Editors cannot expect to successfully fight their political battles within the pages of Wikipedia, which is an encyclopedia, not a court of law. Sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 22:42, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I also refer editors to Wikipedia:Places of local interest, wherein it is recommended that places that don't have enough WP:Reliable sources for their own article be merged to a larger one. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 02:17, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wilshire Park 

message: The Wilshire Park page has been redirected to Koreatown. All attempts to restore the page have been suppressed by the editor of the Ktown page, with warring and a false complaint about "conflict of interest." The editor has been bullying and threatening anyone who tries to correct this. A new page has been started, immediately tagged by this editor for "speedy deletion." This is suppression. And worse, this is the second time this has occurred - it started in 2010 with the passage of City Council f ile 90-0606, which established the boundaries for Koreatown after strong public protest. Mapping LA's inexplicable and factually unsubstantiated definition of Koreatown has encouraged this kind cyber war. Denying Wilshire Park an identity on Wikipedia is wrong. We are not in Koreatown - we are half a mile from Koreatown with a neighborhood between us and the established boundary. Until Koretown Los Angeles changes its behavior, I would suggest that both Wilshire Park AND Koreatown be removed from this list, since both are now factually incorrect.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by WayBackHomes (talk • contribs) 16:43, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: We have sources attesting to the fact that these areas have been referred to as neighborhoods, or at least listed on a map along with other neighborhoods, so both should remain on this list, with links to the pages wherein they are discussed. There are other WP:Reliable sources besides the Los Angeles Times. For those who object to the boundaries as outlined by the Times, you can try to get your side reported in neighborhood newspapers or responsible websites like http://www.laobserved.com/. Once done, Wikipedia then has a source which can easily be used. Editors cannot expect to successfully fight their political battles within the pages of Wikipedia, which is an encyclopedia, not a court of law. Sincerely, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 22:42, 21 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I also refer editors to Wikipedia:Places of local interest, wherein it is recommended that places that don't have enough WP:Reliable sources for their own article be merged to a larger one. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 02:17, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Complaint

message: Because of an objection, I have unmerged the two articles referred to in the section above, so I now propose that Wilshire Park, Los Angeles, be merged into Koreatown, Los Angeles. The content in the Wilshire Park article can easily be explained in the context of Koreatown, and the Koreatown article is of such a size that the merging of Wilshire Park into it will not cause any problems as far as article size or undue weight is concerned.  Although there is some relevant discussion already on this page (in the section just above), anything new should go below. Thank you. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 15:49, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: * According to Mapping L.A., here, Wilshire Park is part of the Koreatown neighborhood. The extant article on Wilshire Park, Los Angeles, does not have any WP:Secondary sources, which are necessary to show that this small enclave of historic houses is considered WP:Notable by anybody other than those folks who live or own property there. There is simply not enough WP:Reliable sources (so far) to have a stand-alone article on this historic preservation zone. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 17:13, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion—Wilshire Park, Los Angeles

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thread_title: Assessment comment

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: A number of names linked to articles are tagged "citation needed"? Why is sourcing needed for a name that links to an article? I propose to remove all such tags in this article - approve/oppose? WCCasey (talk) 16:01, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: They are used to indicate that there is no proof either on this page nor on the target pages that these geographic names are actual neighborhoods. We have to be sure that simple subdivisions, tracts, and other real-estate puffery are not allowed on this page. Rather than our removing these listings, it is better that the reader be informed that there has been no source found that any given name is actually a neighborhood. So these notations should not be removed: They provide needed info. Instead, any interested editor can hunt around and find citations, if they do indeed exist, thereby improving the validity of the WP information about L.A. neighorhoods. Yours, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 21:13, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I found sources that say that most these are all actual neighborhoods, except for Platinum Triangle, Los Angeles, which is actually a group of neighborhoods in different  cities and so should be removed from this list. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 22:35, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I just noticed that the name of this article includes "districts," but anyway, they are now all cited, except for that Triangle thingy. Again, this list should not include real-estate puff pieces. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 22:40, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, East Gate Bel Air, Los Angeles is called an "area," so maybe it shouldn't be in here. But that's another story. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 22:52, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove "citation needed" tags? 

message: An article Virgil Village did exist in the German language Wikipedia since 2007. After an AfD debate, I have today replaced that article with a redirect, thus closing the debate in my capacity as a sysop. The corresponding English language article Virgil Village, Los Angeles has been prodded and deleted here in 2013. I would be innterested in the current views of active contributors to the English language Wikipedia (and presumably people knowledgable about L.A.) on the notability of Virgil Village. Would you consider revisiting the decsion? A point of contention in our debate has been the recognition of Virgil Village as one of six districts within the East Hollywood Neighborhood Council. --Minderbinder (talk) 11:25, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a district within a neighborhood, so it could be added to this list and mentioned in an article about East Hollywood, Los Angeles. The articles I examined indicate it should go there. https://www.newspapers.com/search/#query=virgil+village&p_county=Los+Angeles+County%2C+California BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 18:11, 3 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Virgil Village 

message: Greetings!  Regarding this revert... WP:CITESTYLE has general guidance. There a three reasons to change the style here. First, the article uses inconsistent styles for citations, some with Wikipedia's standard clickable footnotes and some with non-standard superscript markup. Second, the clickable footnotes make it easy for readers to jump to the cited source, or see the citation when hovering, so I think that's preferred. Third, the superscript notation looks more like stylized or technical text (like a chemistry formula) rather than a footnote, both to readers familiar with Wikipedia and automated spell checkers (which is how I ended up here). -- Beland (talk) 21:25, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you've made a good start in countering one of our basic policies, which is WP:Ignore all rules, but you haven't persuaded me. Can you go further and explain in what way "clickable footnotes" are required or at least suggested in WP usage? It is my understanding that all we need, really, is a citation, clickable or not. Second, in what way is it deleterious to the encyclopedia to have "non-standard superscript markup"? Thanks, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 21:38, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, any citation will satisfy the requirement to cite sources, but there's an advantage to clickable and hoverable footnotes in simply that it's easier for readers to see the citation. Not being consistent in how footnote citations are made increases the possibility for confusion. For me personally, when I saw these acronyms in superscript instead of numbers, I was wondering if they were indicating groups of neighborhoods or something. It's not until you actually scroll down to the bottom of the page that the meaning becomes clear. -- Beland (talk) 03:25, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  thank you for explaining...I did not understand what the notice you had placed on the article page actually meant.  I agree with you. And it doesn’t seem like a difficult change to make Phatblackmama (talk) 04:41, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm concerned that, if we add such a tag, we are just cluttering up the page with a stricture that nobody will bother to address. Surely there is nothing clickable about refs to a Thomas Guide of several years ago. What about deleting them all and simply note that the refs are to be found in the texts of the target pages? BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 20:12, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I can take care of that if there's no objection. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 20:17, 27 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not clicking from the article text to an external web site I meant, but just clicking from the article text to see the footnote text. Though I suppose see-link-on-hover does make that second click a lot easier, if the citation is to a web site and not a book. If the concern is not about the change itself, but that the cleanup tag makes the page unpretty, the right solution is just to perform the cleanup the tag is there for. It's just a search-and-replace, and since at least two out of three editors support it, I've just done it. (I was looking at a list of hundreds of articles that need cleanup of one kind or another and didn't have time to clean all of them; otherwise I would have just done this to begin with.) -- Beland (talk) 01:19, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, you did a good job. Thanks! The only change I might suggest is to get the citations into numerical order, but that is really minor. Yours, BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 21:55, 28 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation style 

message: , I happened to see this entry in an edit summary and remembered there is an article. It's currently a part of Chinatown, but there is a community memory of it. If past neighborhoods aren't part of the main list, perhaps a Past section for historical neighborhoods could be created. I re-added the entry with a wikilink to the list. If I'm mistaken about any of this rv and reply. Hope things are well.   // Timothy :: talk  23:02, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Sonoratown is now in the list. BeenAroundAWhile (talk) 23:39, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sonoratown 

message: I am not from US, but that is a name I always remember because it sounds funny. Surely this should be on the list right? 92.238.237.65 (talk) 14:06, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Inglewood ("up to no good" per "California Love") is a separate municipality within Los Angeles County, California, see Inglewood, California, and it has its own neighborhoods. jengod (talk) 20:36, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inglewood?