Talk:Al Waleed bin Talal Al Saud

message: Listing major charitable gifts looks nice, but is it really worth 50% of the text?  That could be reduced to one or two lines.  Hobga 16:18, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I am going to have to dispute the NPOV of his investments, it doesn't say what bad investments he made. 220.233.48.200 15:16, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: One example, "Rotana"? - Eagleamn 16:17, 17 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  in Germany he lost about 350 million dollar @ de:KirchMedia, due to Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, March 26. 2006, p55-- Cherubino 21:48, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: Wasn't he Lebanese, not Saudi? --Peter Robinett 12:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, by birth and nationality. But like many enterprising Arabs, he made his fortune in Saudi Arabia. Nathanm mn 19:42, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "He made his fortune in Saudi Arabia" - when I was there, it was common knowledge that Hariri was a front for King Fahd - he made his money in construction and he got all his sweetheart contracts because Fahd ordered them.  Like Al-Waleed, Hariri is ("was", now that he is dead) a front.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.152.200.175 (talk) 13:04, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: His mother is Lebanese, and his father was Saudi. --Marla Olmstead (talk) 16:40, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rafik Hariri 

message: In the politcal involvement section of the article it says: "Prince Al-Waleed is a Lebanese citizen through his mother".  Saudi Arabia does not allow you to have dual citizenship with other countries.  This must be incorrect.
(1) Most rules apllied on normal Saudi citizens are not apllied on members of the royal family or people with strong relations with them.
(2) The Saudi government is not clear about its policy when it comes to dual citizenship! 
It is usually said to be forbidden to have a 2nd citizenship and that you may be striped out of your Saudi citizenship if they find out you have another nationality, but its no secret to them that the thousands of Saudi's born in other countries (such as the US) have those countries citizenships and carry their passports. In fact, the Saudi King offers government scholarships for Saudi college students to the US. To get the scholarship, typical Saudi students are required to show their US Visas to the Saudi government's (Ministry of Higher Education) as proof of being able to enter the US, while Saudi's born in the US are officially required to show their US passports!
Actually the Saudi government does not care about whether you have dual citizenship or not. The example you gave about Saudi students clearly shows that the Saudi government doesn't enforce its own law. Arabiainfo 07:01, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But is there a source which says he has lebense citzenship?--Aa2-2004 (talk) 17:44, 17 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Citizenship?

message: I have put the disputed template on this article as it appears to be suffering from considerable vandalism from anonymous editors, e.g. 
Prince Al-Waleed is founder of the Clutz Gunzel Movement For the Overthrow of the RS TyrannyPrince Al-Waleed bin Talal would never stand for someone looking for another job on his watch. He'd bin him right off.The Prince nevers backs any horse that isn't a working man's price.
I've not been able to confirm his interest in Everton F.C. either. Could someone more informed about the subject please review the article? -- Arwel (talk) 15:22, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Accuracy check

message: It would be helpful to have more detail regarding the Prince's businesses.  One I noticed today that is surely notable is his announced plan to build the world's tallest building in a mega-development in Jeddah.  Not only is the building not mentioned, I could not find anything in Wikipedia about the development, "Kingdom City".[  I would try to create and expand the articles but I do not know much about the subject and I am afraid I would get it wrong. - Wikidemon (talk) 09:23, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kingdom City and other investments 

message: It is against WP policy to delete material that has been properly sourced without coming to the discussion page and explaining. Therefore, please do not delete the material on the telethon without explanation here.Sgmiller (talk) 11:32, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This section has been rewritten and sourced material removed with no discussion. Also, it was badly written with needless identification of sources (i.e The St. Petersburg time said...." I have reverted to an older version. If this is to be changed, please come to discussion and explain.Sgmiller (talk) 17:52, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Please Do Not Delete Sourced Material

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: There is practically nothing on Al-Waleed bin Talal's media interests.  I am led to believe he owns or has owned MBC, helped establish ART with Saleh Kamel and also established Rotanna?  Can anyone help me write a section on this? UKWiki (talk) 13:11, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Media ownership 

message: He is not a cousin of King Abdullah. He is nephew of him. So just saying a member of House of Saud is enough. So, I deleted the cousin part. Thanks,Egeymi (talk) 16:21, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Cousin?

message: The content given below is about a rape case he experienced. If anyone wants to mentioned it, it can be briefly given in the article. A separate section for this topic seems unnecessary (Although I myself started the section, it has become unimportant case after recent events). It was deleted a few days ago, but today someone, sertelsiraci, added it again. Since it was explained before, I put it below. Thanks,Egeymi (talk) 09:21, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The section gives WP:UNDUE weight - the case was dismissed and including two full paragraphs of the contentious info on this talk page is as much of a WP:BLP issue as having the section in the article. Of course discussion can take place here as to what, if any, mention of the case should be included, but the old content does not need to be on display to do so. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 23:01, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: FYI

message: A panel of Spanish judges has dismissed a rape case against Alwaleed bin Talal, citing a lack of evidence.
[redacted]
:The section gives WP:UNDUE weight - the case was dismissed and including two full paragraphs of the contentious info on this talk page is as much of a WP:BLP issue as having the section in the article. Of course discussion can take place here as to what, if any, mention of the case should be included, but the old content does not need to be on display to do so. --Jezebel'sPonyobons mots 23:01, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Unfounded Allegations

message: The links given before under external links are put here as the article is already overloaded.Egeymi (talk) 20:20, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Info 

message: http://www.wnd.com/2012/09/saudi-billionaire-did-help-obama-into-harvard/
"In late March 2008, on a local New York City show called “Inside City Hall,” the venerable African-American entrepreneur and politico, Percy Sutton, told host Dominic Carter how he was asked to help smooth Barack Obama’s admission into Harvard Law School 20 years earlier. The octogenarian Sutton calmly and lucidly explained that he had been “introduced to [Obama] by a friend.” The friend’s name was Dr. Khalid al-Mansour, and the introduction had taken place about 20 years prior.
Sutton described al-Mansour as “the principal adviser to one of the world’s richest men.” The billionaire in question was Saudi prince Al-Waleed bin Talal... The elusive al-Mansour was a guest on the BlogTalkRadio show, “The National and International Roundtable,” Sept. 19, 2012.
In his introduction, the host openly acknowledged that al-Mansour “made news in 2008 when it was revealed that he had been a patron of President Barack Obama and had recommended him for admission to Harvard Law School.” The host goes on to describe al-Mansour as “co-founder of the International law firm of al-Waleed, al-Talal and al-Mansour and special adviser to Saudi Arabian prince, his royal highness Prince Al Waleed bin Talal bin Abdulazziz.”
This meshed completely with what Sutton had said in 2008. According to Sutton, al-Mansour had asked him to “please write a letter in support of [Obama] … a young man that has applied to Harvard.” Sutton had friends at Harvard and gladly did so."
are the actions of his adviser relevant to the wiki on Al-Waleed bin Talal? I mean is it a fair assumption that the adviser acts on his behalf?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.99.85.91 (talk) 04:24, 24 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Helping Barack Obama get into Harvard

message: Why no article about Khalid al-Mansour?  Not the obscure Saudi footballer.  The other one.  Regardless of whether the Obama story is true.  He is someone people are going to want to know about.  Pretty amazing life for one thing.  Going from Black Panther to corporate board member is quite rare.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.94.150.197 (talk) 22:22, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dr. Khalid al-Mansour 

message: Hi. I don't know how to add a reference, so if someone could help me out, that would be great. Originally, the article correctly stated that News Corp owned $70m (9%) interest in Rotana group. The most updated information I found from a credible source has them at $175m (19%), and so I changed that text. My source is here http://www.arabianbusiness.com/news-corp-ups-stake-in-alwaleed-s-rotana-458084.html#.UsdzuLRUy31. Thanks for your help. 68.45.176.237 (talk) 02:42, 4 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated info on News Corp ownership 

message: Why is :Category:Saudi Arabian people of Lebanese descent being removed from the article? It seems to me to be an obviously applicable category. His mother was Lebanese, and he is Saudi Arabian, so he is a Saudi Arabian person of Lebanese descent. This doesn't necessarily mean he is a Lebanese citizen—it means he is a Saudi Arabian citizen who has Lebanese ancestors—namely, his mother. Good Ol’factory (talk) 23:15, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Category:Saudi Arabian people of Lebanese descent

message: The existing reference states "Princess Dalal Married Prince Alwaleed bin Talal bin Abdul Aziz".  A web search brings  this photo caption, which also spells her name "Dalal".  I also get the impression that Talal is a male name.  
The standard for Wikipedia is wp:verifiability, so please do not revert again unless you can provide a reference.  Thundermaker (talk) 20:29, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  First wife's name -- Dalal or Talal? 

message: This article says nothing about his political views. Charles Essie (talk) 01:36, 24 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Is he known as a particular political person? If not, why does it matter? Gareth E Kegg (talk) 15:46, 25 August 2015 (UTC)

text: I have included this section, but was quickly deleted by Gareth E Kegg, who seems to be the Chief Censor Guardian here. Mazarin07 (talk) 15:58, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm an editor like any other. I've always felt encouraged to be bold in my actions. Al-Waleed is a businessman, not a politician, and other than the brief New York donation brouhaha, I'm not aware that he has expressed any particularly controversial views. I believe he is seen as a relatively liberal figure in KSA though. Gareth E Kegg (talk) 10:03, 26 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political views 

message: Prince Talal Bin Waleed has urged all Arab nations to give up their hostility toward the Jewish nation and look for peaceful coexistence.
"All my Muslim brothers and sisters must understand that it became a moral imperative for all inhabitants of war-torn Middle-East, namely Arabs, to desist their absurd hostility toward Jewish people."http://www.jewsnews.co.il article (21 August 2015)
The site jewsnews.co.il is an alt-right website that has frequently been criticized by snopes as a fake news website. The quote above, regarding relationships with Israel, which was posted by jewsnews.co.il, was repudiated by the prince himself and should not appear in the Wikipedia article.
:Do you have a Snopes article to prove this claim? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 22:12, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is a list: http://www.snopes.com/tag/jewsnews/  There are also several other articles on other websites discussing the fake content at Jewsnews.co.il... http://iranian-atheist.tumblr.com/post/111784837839/once-again-the-website-jews-news-releases-a-fake   http://www.loonwatch.com/2014/05/jews-news-spreads-false-story-about-lynched-mutilated-corpse/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.251.68.92 (talk) 22:32, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jewsnews 

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message: Wouldn't it be better if the main picture in the infobox was updated? Surely, camera quality has improved and there's other better potential pictures anyway. 2603:6011:9600:52C0:B491:C006:24EB:CD18 (talk) 21:54, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
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