Template talk:Infobox person

message: can we fix it so that template_name isn't added to articles when visual editor is used? Frietjes (talk) 19:35, 19 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  template_name 

message: Just like how the origin parameter   is used in infoboxes for music performers, would anyone add the parameter on infobox person as it should the city/country/place where the person originated from (that is, the place where the individual started their career, and should not match their birth location.) 2600:6C40:5400:A0E:455D:BF12:9DC2:48C6 (talk) 08:44, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be better to remove it there. Nikkimaria (talk) 05:14, 22 February 2024 (UTC)

text: No. That invites a whole host of unencyclopedic guessing. While music "scenes" can make that sort of parameter somewhat meaningful, and breakout hits for musical artists can even make it fairly objective, it is either completely meaningless, wildly subjective, or completely irrelevant for pretty much any other type of notability. If you manage to have a person who is associated with a particular origination that is notable, it belongs in article prose. VanIsaac, GHTV contWpWS 14:43, 22 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin 

message: Is there a reason this is hardcoded to 150px, while the main image uses "frameless", which follows user preferences? Could we use "frameless" as default for the signature as well? —Kusma (talk) 21:16, 2 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Size default for signature 

message: Should the 2020 consensus to remove  from the Infobox person template be overturned? 4theloveofallthings (talk) 01:05, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: RfC: Do you support overturning [[Template_talk:Infobox_person/Archive_34#Residence_parameter|the 2020 consensus]] to remove residence from the [[Template:Infobox person|Infobox person]] template? 

message: With the  parameter having the corresponding  parameter and the  parameter having the corresponding  parameter, do you agree to have the  parameter given the corresponding  parameter? 4theloveofallthings (talk) 15:14, 7 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: No per sdkb. It’s crufty and infoboxes are already potentially quite large if all parameters are filled. RadioactiveBoulevardier (talk) 06:36, 12 May 2024 (UTC)

text: No - infobox is for the most important facts, burial date is not one of those.--Staberinde (talk) 10:25, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC: Should burial_date be added as a parameter? 

message: The date of birth on Chris Packham is correct but the age is calculating incorrectly - he's now 63 but the template still puts his age at 62. Is this a known bug? WaggersTALK 12:45, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: If you check out the documentation at , you can see that the age only updates when the page cache is purged. VanIsaac, GHTV contWpWS 13:27, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for clarifying. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:29, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age update fail 

message: This template only allows one parameter for the person's office and for similar things. I propose that we add parameters such as office2, term2, predecessor2, and successor2 (with as many numbers as wanted) for people who are known for multiple positions or held the same position multiple times. This would match Template:Infobox officeholder.
For example, this would be useful for Bob Iger, who served as CEO of Disney from 2005 to 2020 and again from 2022 to present. The current infobox lists both Michael Eisner and Bob Chapek in the "predecessor" parameter, making it unclear which preceded which term. — Vigilant Cosmic Penguin 🐧 (talk | contribs) 04:55, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: This is what modules are for. There is no need to match the parameters of Infobox officeholder because you can just embed Infobox officeholder into Infobox person when you have this need. VanIsaac, GHTV contWpWS 06:07, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add parameters for multiple terms or offices? 

message: On BLPs of independent voters, is it more appropriate to fill the "party" parameter with "independent" or leave it blank? My cursory understanding of the parameter's usage is to note party affiliations, which independent voters do not have. This has been disputed on Sara Haines. KyleJoantalk 07:00, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I would have had a hard time imagining a non-politician (or non-political-person) whose  of party affiliation is worth including in their infobox. In the case of Haines, it appears that her political stance has gained some coverage (, ,  and similar) as it relates to her notability, and so it becomes a little more of an editorial question. I would probably not include it, given that the coverage is minor, and not coming from the kind of sources I would prefer for lead level material, but I can see the other side. Probably worth continuing at Talk:Sara Haines. — HTGS (talk) 04:18, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: How about Independent? --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 18:17, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether a distinction between how politicians and other subjects fill the parameter is necessary, I don't see the point of a link to connote "political party: none" if there's not even enough coverage to neutrally contextualize one's nonpartisanship in the prose. KyleJoantalk 20:32, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Party" parameter and independent voters 

message: The education and alma mater parameters can cause a bit of confusion amongst some editors, especially with regards to listing colleges/universities some of the subjects attended. One of the instructions in the infobox documentation currently states "It is usually not relevant to include either [the education or alma mater] parameter for non-graduates, but article talk page consensus may conclude otherwise, as perhaps at Bill Gates." For example, Jeffrey Wright left New York University before completing his master's degree and Robert Frost didn't receive any degrees from Dartmouth College or Harvard University.
My questions are: should we use the alma mater or education parameter if the subject didn't earn a degree and (if not), how should we go about it? Also, which parameter should we use if the subject has attended multiple universities (such as Peter Weller, Bridgit Mendler, etc.)? Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 03:06, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education/alma mater parameters 

message: This template is in my opinion a good candidate for Wikidata integration. Wikidata has some quite detailed information on many people, and that information could automatically populate this infobox.
I would maybe caveat that, unlike some other infoboxes, this one should probably require referenced Wikidata entries to avoid some potential problems in the case of WP:BLP. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 08:09, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I am pretty certain that this has been suggested and rejected before, on grounds such as verifiability, and spotting vandalism. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 16:56, 29 May 2024 (UTC)

text: exists. ‑‑Neveselbert (talk · contribs · email) 18:19, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you! That is exactly what I was looking for. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 20:25, 30 May 2024 (UTC)

text: I would absolutely love if there were some sort of utility that would allow you to import Wikidata to populate an infobox, but would only prepopulate values for supported parameters that you could then save. Pretty much any other option is bound to be a BLP and vandalism nightmare and should be avoided. VanIsaac, GHTV contWpWS 21:23, 30 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I second that, it would help to neatly bridge that gap. David Palmer//cloventt (talk) 02:25, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikidata Integration 

message: You are invited to join the discussion at :Template talk:Listen voice.  —⁠andrybak (talk) 20:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  New [[Template:Listen voice]] <span class="anchor" id="New template Template:Listen voice"></span>

message: Reliable sources are reporting that Eiko Masuyama died at age 89 calculated in East Asian age reckoning: , . The Wikipedia article uses :Template:Death date and age to calculate the age as 88. Should we create an age template for these cases when age is reported in East Asian age reckoning and use both in the article? Mika1h (talk) 13:27, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm. I wonder if there is a lunar year template to base the calculations off of, or whether you'd need to program that functionality in. Given that both the lunar new year and January new year are used, you'd need to be able to specify which to use in the calculation. But if the template were to output both ages, I think that would be a perfectly reasonable thing to have. I'd just caution that documentation should emphasize it only be used when reliable sources use the east asian age system for the person. VanIsaac, GHTV contWpWS 14:13, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[East Asian age reckoning]]