Talk:Aaron Livesy

message: I have placed merger tags on a number of character articles. Rather than repeat the reasoning on each talk page I have set out the full argument here. Please feel free to leave comments either on this talk page or at the WikiProject. I want to try and start a debate about the whole way in which Emmerdale information is provided on Wikipedia —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Amxitsa (talk • contribs) 19:04, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed Merger 

message: For some strange reason, the date of birth does not show up on the profile, how do we ge it to show up???  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dannyboybaby1234 (talk • contribs) 22:49, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Only things listed in the original template will show.  The template is here. Diannaa TALK 03:26, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of Birth 

message: Please do not edit this page until after friday 9th April, instead of editing information after every episode, it would be better to do a summary after the week has finished Dannyboybaby1234 (talk) 11:25, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is simply not possible.  As has been pointed out to you, you do not own the article, and anyone and everyone can add anything.  If you want a forum where you have absolute control, you should start a blog or your own website.  Sodam Yat (talk) 17:03, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You can't add a weekly summary of storylines to an article, think about how long it will get. You need to take the important storylines that the character has been/is involved in and add them to that section. It's nice to see that the article is being kept updated though, some soap opera character articles often go for long periods without any update. - JuneGloom07  Talk?  17:39, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with what JuneGloom07 is saying. Look at Pauline Fowler, a Featured Article on a longstanding character in Eastenders. This article should similar to that one, and use summary style. Pyrrhus16 17:42, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Editing

message: This article goes into far too much detail, and sounds like it should be on a fansite rather than an encyclopedia.  Only large, changing plots need to be given great mention, we can't go detailing each and every action of every episode.  In addition, I think there are too many images in this article, especially given that most of them can easily be replaced by a text explanation of the content, which makes them unneeded and violates our Non-Free content policies.  Sodam Yat (talk) 17:13, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Sodam Yat. Those headings in the storylines section need to be taken out and replaced with Background for his life prior to moving to the village and then 2008— for his storylines. An episode by episode summary is not needed, just the important storylines that he has been involved in. Some of that Development section could probably be trimmed too and where are the retrieval dates for the references? - JuneGloom07  Talk?  17:31, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Thanks for bringing that to our attention.  I don't have time right now, but I'll try to chop that one down to a manageable size soon.  Sodam Yat (talk) 18:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, lets see if we can improve this article. I'm using Declan Napier, which is a GA, as an example.    
* Change Development to Character development and place the casting info under that. 
* Information like, Livesey's character was first described as a teenage tearaway and the village "bad boy" when he re-appeared in 2008, can be included under a Personality and identity heading. 
* All the information about his Sexuality storyline can be placed under Sexuality. Start the section with something like A high profile storyline for the character was when he began to question his Sexuality. and add a brief description of how it developed (He kissed his friend one night, etc). Then add the reactions from the actors, producers, news sources and so on. Try to select the important parts of the quotes, at the moment some of them are quite detailed. 
* Create a ==Storylines== heading. 
* Then add a ===Background=== section and add the background info to it, some of that Backstory info can go here.
* Create a ===2008—=== heading and place the storylines under that. You're going to have be brave and trim them down, so they still provide the reader with the details, but the article no longer drowns in them. (Trimmed by Frickative)    
* If you have the info and references, create a Reception section. Has Danny Miller been nominated for any awards for his portrayal of Aaron? If so, they can go here. 
* Speaking of references, they appear to be missing retrieval dates. I'll add them in now. 
* The See also section doesn't need links to the Emmerdale Cast List and The Dingle Family as you have the templates at the bottom of the article.  
I hope all that makes sense and can be used to improve the article. Don't hesitate to ask me or another editor at WP:SOAPS for any help and advice. I mainly edit Neighbours articles, but I'm happy to help out anywhere. :) - JuneGloom07  Talk?  19:20, 12 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Hi Rain. I agree with you that this article has the potential to become a GA. It just needs some work and the references need to be used to their full potential, some of them have a lot of info, particularly that People interview. - JuneGloom07  Talk?  12:26, 13 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too much detail 

message: ?86.176.34.152 (talk) 05:30, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A Good Article. A GA must meet all of the Good Article criteria. Pyrrhus16 11:41, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  What's a "GA article"??? 

message: RAIN*the*ONE BAM 01:26, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources 

message: I've begun a discussion regarding the atrocious state of character articles within the Emmerdale universe. These articles stand to be deleted unless corrective action is taken. Please join the conversation at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Emmerdale#Serious problems across the board; let's start with character articles. Thank you, --Hammersoft (talk) 16:00, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Emmerdale]] character articles; invitation to discussion 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Somebody changed the name to Dingle, so I changed it back to Livesy. Only the idiot that I am made a typo and now it won't let me change it again. Can somebody please amend it? ThisIsDanny (talk) 06:18, 29 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article name 

message: This article has not only just come to my attention, I always knew there were page issues, but after deciding to read the article. I see the major issues this article has. I don't feel I am capable enough to clean it up on my own, but I am sure with some help we could possibly make this GA. Is anyone keen to help? – Hatio93 (talk) 03:34, 11 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Out of all the Emmerdale articles (most of the current characters at least), Aaron's article is actually one of the better ones. Granted the storyline section could use a good trim and tidy, as the fans do seem to want to mention every last detail, but the reception section is pretty good, and almost everything in the Development section is sourced. It just needs expanding with some of his more notable storylines. Aaron is a good candidate for GA though (I think I mentioned that above years ago). Those characters without such a big fan base are the ones that need the most work. They've been neglected for a long time, see this (old) discussion. I just don't feel I have the time at the moment to help out as much, as I've got a number of drafts that I want to finish. - JuneGloom07 Talk 00:16, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fair enough. I was only asking for help as I am a little tied up with cleaning up and creating the messy Shortland Street articles, so once I am all done with that I will move on to the Emmerdale ones. I reckon to start with this page at the moment, I will get rid of the 2nd non-free image as you don't really need one if the second actor was a child and I will replace Danny Miller's one as its safe to say the current one is inferior. – Hatio93 (talk) 02:07, 12 January 2018 (UTC)

text: Or if you prefer the 2nd non free image of the other actor is important, we could keep it but just take it out of the ibox as it just clutters it up. – Hatio93 (talk) 02:11, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, this is probably the best article to start with! If I come across anything that might be useful, I'll either add it to the article or place it here on the talk page. I think the second image should stay, as the recast is mentioned and sourced in the article. - JuneGloom07 Talk 03:38, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Okay then, I put the 2nd image in the casting section. I've started to give it an overhaul. If you could reassess once I'm all done and remove the tags if adequate, that would be awesome. Even assessing it for GA would be amazing too. – Hatio93 (talk) 04:09, 12 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Severe improvement 

message: Aaron Dingle Name is still shown as Aaron Livesy while his named is confirmed as Aaron Dingle his legal name as of 2016 not Aaron Livesy WILDMANC (talk) 00:59, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Livesy is his WP:COMMONNAME. The majority of his storylines occurred under this surname. - JuneGloom07 Talk 02:39, 25 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aaron Dingle 

message: Quick query here for anyone with a wider Dale knowledge than me (as I began watching in 2018). Are all of the relatives listed in Aaron's infobox relevant to him? This goes for the majority of the Dingle clan but the length of his infobox in particular surprised me. – DarkGlow • 20:24, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, it looks pretty accurate. I think a few of the characters listed in the "First cousins" and "Other relatives" fields are young children though, which he hasn't had much to do with (Molly and Frankie, for example). I assume they've been added because they're in the show at the same time as Aaron, so they could be trimmed. - JuneGloom07 Talk 00:46, 19 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relatives 

message: While the majority of his storylines occurred under his other name, Aaron has still been classed as one of the Dingles long before his official name change. The audience knows the character by the Dingle surname, not Livesy. Connorguy99 (talk) 10:14, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Why hasn’t the name been changed yet? He’s a Dingle. He’s known as Aaron Dingle. Credited as Aaron Dingle. And the name Livesy is quite degrading after knowing what his character has been through. The name should have been changed months if not years ago. 2A00:23EE:10B8:5D1C:B929:3223:5D47:80F5 (talk) 16:22, 21 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name change