Talk:DuPont Manual High School

message: I think the article about the Crimsons sports teams should be merged into this one. They're closely related, and only this page links to that article. I don't think the sports program merits its own article. Realkyhick 03:55, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well those are colleges, obviously. This was decided twice at AfD that there's a consensus to merge. --W.marsh 04:53, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Anyone can merge the info in at any time. --W.marsh 02:36, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge Crimsons article into this one 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Manual crest.gif

message: *:DuPont Manual Magnet High School → :DuPont Manual High School —(Discuss)— As per the Wikipedia naming conventions, this article should probably be moved. Unless I have a sorely skewed POV as an alumnus, the magnet term is rarely used when talking about the school (I did not know that it was part of its name until I was a senior), and is therefore not part of its common name. --khalfani_khaldun (talk) 22:24, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: *This has actually been bugging me, now that I've moved the article. In looking around (especially on the school's website) I cannot find anywhere that says the school is actually named "DuPont Manual Magnet High School." I know it is somewhat infrequently referred to as such, or even as "The Magnet High School," but none of these seem to be official names. 1984 Just seems to be the year in which the school became a magnet school. If no one can find a source that says otherwise, I am going to delete the names section and just include the first name change in the history section. khalfani_khaldun (talk) 15:12, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names 

message: I don't do formal GA reviews, but I did just do some copyediting of the article. The only glaring issues I found were the two first paragraphs in the section Campus life. I would say the entire first paragraph is too detailed and unnecessary (especially the last sentence, which has some POV in it). The first sentence of the second paragraph needs some sort of citation to prove that "the staff and administrators are all highly qualified". Otherwise, this sounds a bit dubious and gives off a vibe of POV (define "highly qualified"). Just my thoughts. ~ ωαdεstεr16♣TC♣ 05:41, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll fix that a little later today, thanks! I have trouble catching POV problems all the time, let alone on an article about the high school I went to. The admin and teachers are definitely not all highly qualified, though. Don't know how I didn't catch that one... KhalfaniKhaldun 16:18, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Happy to help. ~ ωαdεstεr16♣TC♣ 16:50, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Words of advice 

message: I have finally finished updating the article from my sources... meaning there's technically just polishing left to do. A lot of this is based on Plano Senior High School, the only other FA I can find of a school like Manual. Here's the stuff I can think of right now:
* Inline cite all the notable alumni individually (Plano Senior High School does this)
* Make this article's infobox look like Plano Senior High School's (I'm hoping Khalfani khaldun will do this, technical stuff is not my forte)
* Do about a million minor fixes made necessary by my mile-a-minute writing style :-)
* Perhaps find a source for Manual/Male being the oldest HS rivalry west of the Appalachians. List of high school football rivalries (100 years+) claims it is but I can't find the CJ story it cites.
Anything else? I'm surprised at how fast this has all happened and hope to nominate for FAC soon. --Chiliad22 (talk) 20:37, 27 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  To do before FAC 

message: I looked everywhere but couldn't find non-Wikipedia sources for these two people being Alumni:
* Chad Broskey - 
* Kira Reed - 
If anyone can find a source, re-add these people. --Chiliad22 (talk) 21:44, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not too concerned about adding Kira back in, because she didn't graduate from YPAS, even though she attended for some time. She ended graduating from an LA high school instead. While technically anyone who attended at some point is an alumnus, I think it might be better to still leave her out because people mistake alumnus to mean graduate all the time. KhalfaniKhaldun 22:37, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed 2 alumni 

message: Reviewing the edit history of this article, before the current dispute over the added see also, I have completed 12 non-revert edits to this article, compared to the combined 7 non-revert edits to this article by those who reverted the see also.  Further, no guidelines-based reason has been given for removal of the see also.  According to WP:SEEALSO, "The links in the "See also" section should be relevant, should reflect the links that would be present in a comprehensive article on the topic, and should be limited to a reasonable number."  The see also I added complies with this fully.  The title (topic) of the section where the see also was added is "Notable alumni", which is straightforwardly translated to "People attending this metro area high school".  In the vast majority of cases, people who attend a high school are from the area the high school is in.  Therefore, it is reasonable that List of people from the Louisville metropolitan area be shown as a see also. Further, similar reverts were done on other high school articles based on "consensus" that was merely a disagreement between two editors, meaning those reverts used an openly dishonest rationale. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 17:23, 26 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Only thing this sounds like is an assertion of OWN. And I can't help but notice no one is agreeing with you. That equals no consensus. I invite you to craft a nice neat RfC, so this can be addressed on all the articles you added it on. John from Idegon (talk) 04:25, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The only one who has demonstrated OWN is yourself. You haven't produced one guideline against this straightforward see also. That indicates that you think you OWN this article and are trying to stop something you don't like. Again, if you want to play the consensus game based on contributions to this article, you have no basis to say anyone has achieved consensus.  You don't have it, and I don't have it.  All we have is a minor, reasonable change that you don't like for some reason nobody has seen yet. Stevie is the man! Talk • Work 05:22, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable consensus and lack of guidelines-based rationale to remove see also 

message: Is the high school's newspaper staff's uncovering of old 'inappropriate' police training material worthy of mention? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/training-manual-once-used-by-kentucky-police-quotes-hitler-urges-officers-to-meet-violence-with-greater-violence/ar-BB1azP2D?scrlybrkr=a64539b7 37.99.32.77 (talk) 04:14, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: It can be hard to gauge if very recent stuff is actually notable in the scope of ~130 years of history. That said, it's probably fine to add a sentence... maybe focused on the paper's accomplishment rather than rehashing the politics. --Here2rewrite (talk) 23:30, 1 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redeye