Talk:Adult FriendFinder

message: The original article is very favorable to AFF -- maybe it was written by them?  Someone should keep an eye on this article to make sure they don't delete the criticism.
:I agree with your general sentiment, although I thought some of the links you added were of questionable value so I removed them. In general though this article has had a problem with people adding referal links, which should be watched closely for. Alex Krupp 01:11, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, years later there are still attempts both to skew the article by deleting the criticism, or by making it an entirely negative piece, and attempts to insert affiliate links into the prose. So, this article needs to be watched closely by a substantial number of users, continually. 68.35.36.43 (talk) 01:17, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Watch this article for spam and conflict of interest

message: For the record, there are bot accounts created, and the people in the CS department disable them whenever they find them. There are usually a few fake accounts for testing purposes but they are deliberately kept unobtrusive (and usually have names rlike /^fftest.*/). Bot accounts come from outside sources, much like the infamous glut of Myspace whores. Some of the technology for screening against bots could be improved, but due to constantly working on existing portions of the site it's virtually impossible to get any development time for stuff like this.
Please keep in mind Wikipedia policy when stating 'facts' in the criticism page which are not only unverified but, in actuality, not true. Speculation and accusations from annoyed customers are better handled by calling the CS department.
Also, FFI's/Various, Inc's business interest in tolerating scam emails is mitigated by the fact that there are a number of ways for standard members to communicate with gold and silver members *when said paid members instantiate the communication*. In other words, a standard member is limited to winking at other members, but a paid member can communicate with anyone they start talking to, and if they get the 'standard contacts' package they can even get unsolicited emails from standard members.
You both seem to be looking for ways to do some sort of 'expose' on how corrupt the company is--in all honesty, a few minutes ago, standing outside the offices, I suggested we make build some sort of LWP script to find the affiliate referral codes added into the AFF wikipedia page's AFF link and, when found, freeze those accounts and send them a nasty email about their TOS violation (as well as some sort of 'watch my blog' page where people could list their blog URLs and get those watched for jerks pulling this crap, too). The suggestion was not met with disdain, but with 'That's a good idea... I just don't know if we'd have the development time.'
:Someone please dig the attribution of that post back out of page history. It's important to note who wrote this, since it's an AFF employee, and if they edit the article, that's a probable WP:COI issue. Temp-DELETE-ME (talk) 01:55, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: View of someone who works for AFF

message: #I have removed "There are many other websites, such as Private's Jocpoc that operate using a similar model." - I cannot find ANY connection between a site called jocpoc and Private - in fact, this looks to be a scam pulled by AFF themselves. Take a look here and click on "jocpoc" - where does it take you? AFF site made to look like it's a Private site! Is almost worth mentioning under the "scams" section!
#the original external link to their site had a commission pay per click revenue code attached (I have removed) so whomever placed it was getting kickbacks from this article!
#Re: "In December, 2005 Alexa ranked the Adult Friend Finder website as the 43rd most visited website on the internet based on the previous three month's usage." I think given the above that a citation be required before including, I'm fed up, this article is a scam!
- Glen T C 13:12, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Glen, good edits. The Alexa thing is actually true though. In fact I think it used to be even higher, like the 25th most popular site on Alexa. Anyway you can see my comments above about the systemic problems with fixing this article. Alex Krupp 19:50, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article has been scamming our readers with affiliate links 

message: And thus removed the tag, however none of the claims; most popular site/ten million members/use of spam/spyware/ratio m:f etc are cited. Does the article feel more NPOV now? - Glen T C 07:54, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I have tried to NPOV the article... 

message: Italian translation of the Adult FriendFinder website is very bad, probably obatained by using an automatic translator, this happen also in other no-english languages? If yes it may be good to write about this problem in the article, maybe under the section "criticism". Sorry for my english. --Italian Viper (talk) 10:29, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Translation 

message: I'll admit I'm sort of going on a gut feeling here, but based on the diction and generally un-wikipedia-esque approach of some of those removing criticism sections, does anyone else have a suspicion that AFF may have its hands in the editing of this page?
Miles Livingston (talk) 17:48, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I too strongly suspect that supporters of AFF are involved in editing this page, for the purpose of removing criticism. Centrepull (talk) 17:54, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: They sure are, they have too much to lose if they do nothing. Incredible... hope they lose.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.48.112.44 (talk) 20:48, 11 September 2008 (UTC)

text: It looks to be self published, with no evidence of editorial fact checking or peer review. See policy on verifiability and identifying reliable sources for details. - MrOllie (talk) 03:14, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Seems fair, I came here via VelocityPress' Irvine/Mallory article, and whilst you can't fault them for enthusiasm, they make way too many assumptions and deal in factoids, not facts. 62.255.248.225 (talk) 13:07, 1 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of criticism 

message: The inline citation to Reference 18 in the section "Fraudulent Billing Practices" references a report concerning adware which has nothing to do with the claim it purports to support. Lewis Goudy (talk) 23:21, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inappropriate Citation 

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