Talk:Rocket Man (song)

message: I think the nod to "Space Oddity" is fine, but making it the very second sentence is a slight to this song.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.245.103.204 (talk) 12:17, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
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message: Is the "historical notes" section even slightly relevant? OK, it's slightly relevant - the Apollo missions, etc. But the song isn't about them specifically, it has no political subtext as far as I can make out. These notes seem to have almost nothing to do with the article. Anyone wanting to place the song in context can easily do so simply based on its release date of 1972. Graham 09:37, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps someone can find a direct quote from Bernie Taupin about whether the song was intended to be about actual space programs.  However such intent would be ludicrous, considering the song lyrics are completely ridiculous, and do not accurately tell the story of astronaut life.    Marc S.  206.192.35.125 (talk) 13:14, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Historical notes - irrelevant?

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message: Is it really necessary, afterall it takes up more bloody room than the Elton John one, which should be the focus here, because it kind of is his song. Comradeash (talk) 02:02, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well enough.  Removed. Michaelbusch (talk) 02:46, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

text: actually I would suggest having a separate article called Rocket Man (Kate Bush song); all singles are notable to have their own article. indopug (talk) 21:08, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's the same song. -- 201.9.84.120 (talk) 08:08, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps "Rocket Man (Kate Bush version )"?  --  Captain Quirk (talk) 12:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kate Bush Infobox? 

message: This section was removed wholesale; the scope and nature of the use of a song in pop culture is relevant and adds to understanding of the song; this is a common and accepted part of many song articles.  I agree we do not need to know what is happening in every scene where the song is used.  I've returned many of the references in much-consolidated form as part of an overall cleanup.  Jgm (talk) 15:32, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other media section 

message: Shouldn't there be something about the song being a metaphor for drug use. The touch down making him realise he's not the man he thinks he is, 'space' not being a place to raise kids &c Tony2Times (talk) 02:07, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless you can find a reliable reference for it, it is original research, and forbidden here.  Many songs can be re-interpreted for things they weren't originally intended for (e.g. "Fire and Rain", "Puff, the Magic Dragon", etc.).  John claims it is based on "The Rocket Man" story from Bradbury's The Illustrated Man. If you've read the story, there are clear parallels. — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 11:29, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I found a reference that I hope is adequate and added in a mention of this theory. Invertzoo (talk) 00:52, 13 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Drug metaphor? 

message: On July 6,2010 the band Puscifer started streaming their version of this song on their website, www.Puscifer.com. The song is officialy credited to Puscifer & Steven Drozd (from the Flaming Lips). The song will be available on the soundtrack to the film "The Heart Is A Drum Machine".  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nyinyc (talk • contribs) 22:50, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Puscifer Version 

message: He did a very wierd cover of this song, the version that Stewie on Family Guy copied. BlackSabbath1996 (talk) 22:48, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, the Shatner version has taken on a life of its own and has been mimicked/spoofed in dozens of television shows. I don't remember who did it, but a poll several years ago (a poll having something to do with media & technology and age groups) showed that more college aged kids knew of the Shatner version than the original song. However, the article here only briefly mentions this version in passing (I actually came to this page to see if there was a separate article for the Shatner version linked from here). — al-Shimoni (talk) 00:52, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What about Bill Shatner? 

message: Does anybody know when the KB version was recorded? It says that Alan Murphy played on it, but he died in October 1989. The single was released in November 1991. Was the song really recocorded more than two years before? This also raises the question of how long before release this album was first proposed, since Bush recorded the song after a request to contribute to the album.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 06:05, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kate Bush version 

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the move request was: To be moved back to Rocket Man (song). Since nobody seems to be diving in to close this one, and it has been around on WP:RM since the stone age, I will take this on as a slightly controversial non-admin closure. As far as I can tell there is enough consensus that the current form, with the subtitle, is unwieldy and should be shortened. On whether it's primary topic for Rocket Man, I don't think there's enough consensus to determine that. Hence bringing it into line with WP:SONGDAB seems to be the option with the best traction. On whether it should be (song) or (Elton John song) I'm not really sure why people are proposing the latter; there is no other song of this name is there? Hence my final determination is to go with Rocket Man (song), which was explicitly supported by several and also has the bonus of being the longstanding title from May 2008 until April 2012.   — Amakuru (talk) 12:31, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yunshui 雲‍水 13:58, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and reverted the move, because sources seem split, and the CamelCase version (which still redirected there) distinguishes the title from the others with natural disambiguation. I also moved the recently created article on the 1954 film to The Rocket Man, which seems to be the title, according to one of the sources used as well as IMDB. It may be worth having discussions for those two articles to make sure they're properly distinguished from one another, but I don't think either have implications on the primary topic status or otherwise for this article.--Cúchullain t/c 18:24, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That's okay, as I said anyone was welcome to. However The Rocket Man should go to the dab page, there is no way that the 1954 film is WP:PRIMARYTOPIC with or without the "The". In ictu oculi (talk) 18:32, 6 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a good point. I've redirected "The Rocket Man" to the dab page; we can probably continue the discussion at the article.--Cúchullain t/c 18:45, 6 November 2013 (UTC)

text: Great input, but I don't believe "Rocket Man" is a pop music group to anyone, although it is a pop music song to many. Also, I doubt that a substantial majority of people would understand the generic term "rocket man" to refer to a person using a rocket pack rather than simply a man flying in a rocket. But I may be convinced. Not that it matters in the context of this discussion. Do you have a source for your assertion that ? --85.197.3.153 (talk) 20:01, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

text: Of course; I had the single and it was just the two words. Rothorpe (talk) 02:18, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page or in a move review. No further edits should be made to this section.
Thanks! How about fixing "Heat Wave" now? Rothorpe (talk) 17:29, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

text: True, but neither has an article. If either (or both) go on to have articles, then it can be changed.--Tuzapicabit (talk) 10:10, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

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message: The title of the article is 'Rocket Man'.  That is the name of the song.  That it is an article about the song is evident, blatantly obvious.
The use of the search differentiator '(song)' needs only appear on the drop-down Search list.  That it appears on the 'Rocket Man' disambig--whatever page is also completely unnecessary.  It adds no information.  This is because the song '(song)' is listed under 'Music'.
Making the differentiation between 'Rocket Man' the song and 'Rocket Man' the dog '(dog)' is only a search help.  Unlike a qualifier, e.g., 'Jungle Book' - the book? or the film? well the film was Disney's...so, you could qualify 'Jungle Book' making it 'Disney's Jungle Book' this would appear in the title of the article.  (song), (book) & (film), however, are nothing more than search differentiators and therefore do not appear in an article's title or categorized listing.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.206.199.50 (talk) 23:17, 6 May 2016 (UTC)
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