Talk:Mobile home

message: Paragraphs like this are advertising, and will be removed, as has been done several times already:
:An example a company that builds modern mobile homes is Champion Enterprises. Champion Enterprises has been in business since 1932 and has constructed over 1.6 million homes.  	 
:An example of a retailer of modern mobile homes/ manufactured housing (URL REMOVED) Factory Expo sells a wide variety of mobile homes from manufactures including, but not limited to Champion and Redman series of homes.
- DavidWBrooks 01:11, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please don't use wikipedia for advertising 

message: The manufactured housing material should be split off to that article and this one should concentrate on mobile homes. Rmhermen 22:23, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Split off

message: I just happened to find this article and became totally confused, as the title talks about mobile homes, i.e. "trailer homes", while most of the text and the illustrations deal with prefabricated modular homes. The only illustration of what is actually a mobile home has a caption stating that it's a "Typical manufactured home". I think someone started this as an article about mobile homes, and others then began adding stuff about modular homes, fooled by the industry spin mentioned above, and then others started to change the words, so you now have utterly confusing statements such as "At first, manufactured homes tended to be taxed as vehicles rather than real estate." There is already two articles dealing with modular homes (US expression) and prefabricated homes (UK expression), so, given the time, I'll attempt to re-write this article and move any important stuff about modular homes over to one of those articles, and then attempt to merge them. Thomas Blomberg 11:49, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I hear what you're saying.  My understanding that the overarching term (at least in the US) is "manufactured home," with "mobile home" and "modular home" being subtypes of this.  Mobile homes are designed to be be transported in one or two segments and then quickly set up on an arrangement that allows for later removal (i.e., set up on blocks on a pad rather than a permanent foundation).  Mobiles also typically have a steel frame undercarriage to which axles and wheels can be affixed, and a towing yoke.  Modular homes are more elaborate and require more assembly at the site, and are typically set on a permanent foundation much the same as a stick-built house.   I guess it's all industry jargon, more or less, what that's what I've been led to believe what the current distinction is. JamesofMaine 21:31, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

text: First, let me say that I used to work for the Manufactured Housing Institute directly for 8 years, and now from time to time as a contractor.  However, I am not being paid to add this comment.
That said, I think I have something substantive to add to this discussion.  HUD, which regulates manufactured housing through the Manufactured Home Construction and Safety Standards calls the housing "manufactured" in all of its materials, and moreover in the regs themselves, which is published also in the Federal register.
Main Page
http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/mhs/mhshome.cfm
Standards PDF:
http://www.hud.gov/offices/hsg/sfh/mhs/manhsgst.pdf
It may seem spin, but the name is evolving as the housing has evolved.  In the case of industry jargon, there is even talk of calling it factory-built housing since many manufacturers are building both manufactured and mobile homes in the same factory.  There is a blurring of the line between the naming conventions.  The common thread, it is all built in the factory, "manufactured homes" or the common slang of "mobile homes," are built to the MHCSS, administered by HUD and modular homes are built to local, state codes and/or the International Building Code, just as site-built homes are governed.
Kami Watson Huyse--Kamichat 05:53, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Interesting point, but citations from non-government published sources carry the same weight on Wikipedia as "official" sources. The terminology of HUD United States Department of Housing and Urban Development is not more authoritative than those from other accepted citations, and, in my opinion, very much subject to Spin (public relations). Tumacama (talk) 15:38, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Total confusion 

message: I don't think Caravilla's belong here.  From the description it does not seem that they can be loaded up on a truck.  They seem to require a poured foundation.  I say remove that section.--216.75.93.110 16:48, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  "caravillas" is a modular home, distinctly different from a "mobile" home. I will remove the section. 71.212.61.200 (talk) 03:56, 14 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caravilla 

message: Small houses seem like they would go in this category, also. It seems like a new type of house, in the US. They often are placed on wheels too. 
Small House Society - http://www.resourcesforlife.com/groups/smallhousesociety/
http://www.tumbleweedhouses.com/
When I first read the article it seemed to make sense to list trailer/mobile houses and prefab houses. Now I realize I already knew the difference between them quite well, so I wouldn't be confused easily. Perhaps they do belong in separate articles. Maybe the thing to do would be create an article about the various types of houses, and just include all kinds of living arrangements. Or at least one for lower-cost / nonpermanent / semi-permanent / mobile houses. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Michaelhoward9 (talk • contribs) 14:27, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small Houses 

message: This article is sadly sourced and many weasel words can be found.  I removed one blatantly unsourced sentence about a 'bright future' (a Glittering generality) for traditional home sales.  If you add qualifying words they have to be sourced; measurable quantities from sales data is ideal. Trends added by wiki editors without sources becomes original research.  This article isn't even about traditional site builds and their future.  71.86.152.127 (talk) 08:28, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article neutrality and citations 

message: Worth including mention that "Mobile home" originally referred to the city of Mobile? http://www.snopes.com/lost/mobile.asp  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.108.62.238 (talk) 06:32, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of "mobile home" term: 

message: rather than appreciate in value, as with site-built homes.
This is not accurate. Land appreciates in value over the long term. Housing does not, regardless of whether it was built in a factory or built on site.
207.6.103.198 (talk) 22:33, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appreciation / depreciation 

message: Whatever this page was when it was originally accessed, it is now a mirror of this wikipedia page, making this a very poor reference.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.68.182.121 (talk) 16:53, 15 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Answers.com link 

message: The sentence under the section Sizes about upgrading does not make sense, "They also differ from site built homes in that it is not uncommon for owners of single-wides to "trade up", as one might with a car." If the sentence is true, then they, (Mobile Homes) are not all that different from a site built house in that occupants of both often trade up to larger and better homes. Now if one could source a study that says that owner occupier mobile homes are more likely to "trade up" than those in site built house, that needs to be stated and sourced. However if someone cannot source this, than the sentence doesn't belong. I move it to be source or removed. Now if what the author were trying to say was that unlike a site built home where you can add on or remodel the existing house, one is more likely to move to a larger mobile home than add on because of cost, leak issues, ect. Then I think the sentence needs to be reworded and likely put into another section. Humbly yours, Preston A. Vickrey (humbly) (talk) 13:03, 13 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Upgrading 

message: I have just given the article and bit of a general clean-up, reworking the banners, lead, re-ordering some sections, adjusting names for some section and moving some images. In the process I have taken out the 'USA' main heading, promoting the sections about construction, legals, financing etc to top level which seems more appropriate for an international subject. This may however leave those sections being a bit too US-centric until a bit more work it done on it. I haven't added or removed any content during these initial edit. PeterEastern (talk) 02:31, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  General cleanup 

message: I have a 1960’s Hillcrest mobile home, and the water pipe busted. Would you be able to give me the schematics of the water piping. 2603:7080:5B3E:2BD1:5401:EE8E:1506:DE5A (talk) 01:54, 7 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Water piping 

message: I have changed the word "structure" in the definition to "vehicle". I have done so because informal use of words, written by anyone, can then be used by officials in a legal way. The most fundamental distinction in Roman, European, English (hence Common and subsequently US) property law is between real property which is land and anything fixed to that land and personal property which is movable and maintains its independent identity. Structures are things made by people that are fixed to land, thus in law they become part of the land. For example, a mortgage foreclosure on land takes the buildings (a type of structure used by people) on it, but not the vehicles parked on it. A mortgage does not take the mobile home unless it is fixed to a foundation, which technically means it has ceased to be a mobile home and has become a building. This distinction becomes important in countries facing an affordable housing crisis where people begin to buy mobile homes and the local government has no provision for them. The local officials issue violation notices of zoning ordinances saying they are structures. The occupants sometimes fight back, but it's not an equal fight because most people living in a mobile home lack the financial resources to fight city hall. In that battle, it may happen that a local government official looks up the meaning of mobile home on Wikipedia, and until I made this change would find it is called a structure, thus use that reference to bolster their legally-flawed argument. Akonga (talk) 18:55, 25 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: On Wikipedia we use the ordinary senses of the word, not the legal ones. A mobile home is a structure in the sense of Wiktionary's first definition and Oxford Language's second definition. Arguments based on unusual points of views hold little weight here. We do not change Wikipedia entries based on what local government officials (or anyone else) may or may not do. Graham87 (talk) 04:52, 26 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not a Structure