Talk:James the Great

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To User:Viajero:
How is linking to placenames named after Saint James wrong? I think the links provide good information. -- Error 02:37, 1 Aug 2003 (UTC)
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message: According to my references (what i've learned at school and sunday mass) the patron of Chile the Blessed Virgin Mary (as Virgen del Carmen o Nuestra Señora del Carmen) instead of Saint James.
Saint James could be the patron of Santiago de Chile, but Santiago no es Chile ;-)
If I'am wrong, pls correct me, otherwise I intend to correct the article.
Baloo rch 21:25, 19 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Saint James Patron of Chile?

message: The good new image of Sant'Iago of the Cuzco school of colonial Peru is 18th century. A quite different, more iconic, bejewelled and hieratic 17th century approach to Saint James can be seen in this Cuzco painting: the contrast in styles is self-evident.  His wide-brimmed hat is 18th century, too; such fine straw "Panama hats" are still made in the northern part of Peru, today called Ecuador. --Wetman 08:32, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Dating Cuzco painting

message: "Santiago" is not a shortened version of "San Diego".  Diego was/is a Saint in his own right.  Interestingly, Diego was at one time a varient of Santiago, see http://www.sandiegohistory.org/journal/83fall/sandiego.htm
but they are two different saints entirely.
Hey, bud, no one is saying the saints were the SAME, the NAMES have the same origin.   
Saint Didacus was named that AFTER his death and beatification.  
Didacus was never a name in its own right before a Latin name was invented for the Saint.
Didacus doesn't exist in any other Romance name. 
Here is how the Latin name for St. James became Diego in Spanish or Tiago in Portuguese. 
Sanctus Jacobus
Santo Iago (K-sound often became a G-sound)
Santiago.
THEN we lose the SAN because in modern Spanish the title Saint for males became San (see San Francisco, San Antonio)
Tiago (still a name in Portuguese)
Diago
Diego, Diego.
Please let's kill this Didacus myth.  Arthurian Legend 01:23, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diego is not James 

message: * Translation of James
*View name Diego
:In Old-Spanish, perhaps, but no longer. 18:56, 12 January 2006 [12.47.174.185]
::I think that St. James pre-dates old spanish ... evrik 15:16, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Iago is Diego is James 

message: I decided to remove the WikiLink to Santiago in that particular spot. The only other "Santiago" that needs to be linked to in this article is Santiago de Compostela; Santiago itself only contains a little blurb about this article before redirecting back here, and anyone who uses that particular WL will already have learned it all from this article. SingCal 03:37, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Santiago WL in "Sanit James and Hispania" 

message: How is he the Patron Saint of the United States? 67.188.172.165 00:04, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: United States?

message: James the great is patron saint of about thirty nine different things —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 206.207.77.6 (talk) 14:39, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  James the Great 

message: I think the article is in serious need of a good introduction. I propose to make a setup soon, please feel free to comment. Arnoutf 00:03, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article in need of introduction

message: While the introduction now duly mentions the biblical James, the article proper does not. This is weird. The introduction should be a summary. I suggest we start the article proper with a section on the historical James, before we go on with the Spain section. Arnoutf 10:23, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: We need a section on the historical figure

message: Other Biblical saints have their birth names and then the two most influential versions in Indo-Europeans languages; Greek and Latin.  I know that Saint James is Sanctus Jacobus in Latin, can we add the other ones? Arthurian Legend 01:20, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name in Tiberian Hebrew, Greek, Latin 

message: Just reading about the morphing of the name to (eventually) San Diego and others. I realize that it would be a very short article but I'm wondering if it shouldn't be separate. A bit much for here anyway. But very interesting. The city of San Diego could link to it (for example) and others.Student7 (talk) 14:19, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure it is actual morphing, it seems more a translation issue. SantIago in Spanish; Saint Jacques in French (coquille st Jacques), Sankt Jakob in German, Saint James in English etc.  Arnoutf (talk) 14:42, 19 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology

message: Is it known why he got a scallop attributed to him? Hexmaster (talk) 12:10, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Several myths are available. The most common one is that after being beheaded in Jerusalem his body was shipped to Spain (where he had preached) by his disciples. Before arriving a storm wrecked the ship and the body was. It was found a few days later washed ashore, covered in a protective layer of Scallops and thus undamaged. (several variants exist). Bit of trivia: French word for Scallop - Coquille St Jacques is literary Shell of St James. Arnoutf (talk) 15:40, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The scallop

message: Why is there almost no mention except for the lead of what he actually did according to the bible, it seems that 90% of this article are traditions that the catholics have added to him and almost none about his story according to the gospels and early acts 216.121.228.48 (talk) 02:53, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is only limited information in the bible. Most of his importance is in the traditions. Arnoutf (talk) 18:02, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Why Is There No Mention

message: Since there is so much confusion of similarly-named characters in the New Testament, is it even clear that the reference in the Book of Acts to a James being put to death actually means the apostle? If it is, some source should be given in support. -- 77.189.70.109 (talk) 20:31, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Acts 12:2 is very clear.  And that citation is already there.  --Nlu (talk) 05:23, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it clear that the Acts reference is to him? 

message: There is mention in the section on St. James in Kongo of Kongo traditions having gone to the new world, and to Haiti in particular. Saint James (Sen Jak) is extremely popular in Haiti. (see, e.g., Cosentino, Donald J. [2006] "It's All for You, Sen Jak" in *Invisible Powers: Vodou in Haitian Life and Culture* ed. Michel, Claudine and Patrick Bellegarde-Smith. New York: Palgrave-MacMillan.) Vodou practitioners often identify images of Saint James with the Vodou divinity Ogoun. I imagine some information about his role in Haiti might not go amiss on the main St. James page, though perhaps just linking to the Wiki page on Ogoun is enough? This is my first time in the Wikipedia chat world, so I'm interested to know what those of you more experienced in editing, and who take regular care of this page might think. Zloop (talk) 18:26, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expand discussion of St. James in Haiti? 

message: The mother of James son of Zebedee is not Salome, but Mary Salome.
I think it would be necessary to have a look to the references about this articule.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.32.19.186 (talk) 11:16, 30 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mary Salome is the mother of James, not Salome. 

message: I'm a little concerned about the statement "died 44 AD". The date of death is based on legend and really can't be cited as fact. That needs to be indicated right at the start when the date is first mentioned. Nobody knows the exact dates of early Christians. --Doric Loon (talk) 21:53, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I tend to agree. Would "....reportedly died 44 AD" be ok (that is concise but may be to firm about the date). Alternatively but more wordy "... according to legend died 44 AD" might perhaps do  Arnoutf (talk) 17:15, 15 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: "According to legend" or "according to tradition" would be better. "Reportedly" doesn't correctly signal that the story is a structure with a religious purpose, but instead gives the impression that it is some kind of historicity-only statement which is reported by journalists. Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 06:52, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of death 

message: Section: In the New Testament blasphemes – most specifically the first three paragraphs – against my skeptical mind the following ways:
* it is written like a mythos (which is an essential part of religions and to be respected) were facts, there should be some signalling "according to tradition" to distinguish tradition/mythos from historical reality (which is rather irrelevant for beliefs/faiths),
* it speculates wildly by citing the worthless source "probably",
* one source cannot be enough for this kind of texts, in the first run, the text should be labelled "according to the Catholic encyclopedia", in the longer run, more sources are needed.
Rursus dixit. (mbork3!) 06:43, 24 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section: "In the New Testament" 

message: According to the article on Acoma Pueblo their patron saint is Saint Stephen, not James, son of Zebedee. אביהו (talk) 11:02, 11 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:   Acoma Pueblo 

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message: The text currently reads: Some 237,886 pilgrims registered in 2014 as having completed the final 100 km walk (200 km by bicycle) to Santiago to qualify for a Compostela.  Apparently "A Compostela" is an award given fro completing the last 100 km of the pilgrimage, but that's only implied by the text.  Needs a bit more explanation. TwelveGreat (talk) 12:41, 23 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree that needs explanation. But I think wikilinking to the relevant section of Camino de Santiago: Camino_de_Santiago#Compostela, as I just did, should do. Arnoutf (talk) 06:19, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is a Compostela? 

message: I'm unsure how to do this but as I was looking at the list of churches in England called after St James, I saw that my church is not listed. If someone could do that, I would be grateful. It's St James Church, Stretham, Cambridgeshire. 
Thank you for your time. Stay safe.  
Skippycat12 Skippycat12 (talk) 14:24, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  How do I add a church to those in England called St Jamea