Talk:Fire Emblem/Archive 2

message: With reference to this reversion:
I came across Fire Emblem on the CVG To Fix page, where it was listed as requiring an infobox - and I therefore added one in what I thought was the correct way. Since the page was listed there, I'm guessing that there was an actual need for an infobox here (although I'm happy to admit I went about adding one in the wrong way). So:
# Does it actually need one?
# If so, how should it be added?
RandyWang (raves/rants) 03:22, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm. I don't think Fire Emblem (series) needs an infobox because it encompasses 9 games (so far). The individual games need their own boxes but the series article doesn't (see The Legend of Zelda (series). Also, it looks kinda ugly having a box that long. Axem Titanium 03:47, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say Axem's got the right idea. The infoboxes are really meant more for each individual game article. Since the main Fire Emblem article covers so many games, an infobox seems impractical. I'd recommend against including one here. --Hailinel 04:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I was initially confused about adding infoboxes to series articles (take a look at my edit summaries at the CVG To Fix page), but I thought I should add one here to see how it would work out. Thanks for the comments. RandyWang (raves/rants) 04:43, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox 

message: Since I can't edit it myself (at least I don't think), I'll request here for Celice to be listed under characters in the infobox.  I see no reason why Sigurd should be in when Celice isn't.  Celice was more of the main character of FE4 than Sigurd.  In fact, I think Sigurd should be removed Xubelox 00:28, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, you can edit it yourself. Template:Fire Emblem. Just don't pull Sigurd from it. --tjstrf 00:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright, I left Sigurd alone.  Thanks. Xubelox 21:18, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Celice in infobox

message: Would it be appropriate if I include links to Fire Emblem Factory? -Izaak Aug. 04, 2006
:Hmmmm... I'll have to look into this a little more. First, I don't believe it qualifies for having a wikipedia page for it. However, once I can take a closer look (ie. get to a PC computer where I can actually play it), I'll see if you can add it to the links section. Axem Titanium 13:02, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fire Emblem Factory

message: Why doesn't somebody make an article about the character archetypes featured in the Fire Emblem games? I keep seeing them being mentioned in other Fire Emblem articles, but there isn't a link to an explanation of what they are. --3000zebs-(talk to me) 22:11, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Once upon a time there was. It got deleted for some reason, though... --RidFanOne 23:25, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably because: Very few people use them (thus confusing the majority of fans, most who don't even know what a Jeigan is), nobody can agree on who fits what archetype, archetype descriptions differ wildly, later games include characters forced into archetypes (in what ways is Stefan an "Ogma"?), etc. etc. The Gordon archetype mentioned in FE10 is a good example... Why is it even an archetype? Because Gordon was the first archer in FE1? Why don't we have an archetype for every first *insert class here*? Aveyn Knight 00:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I could answer all that for you...and I will. Fans are only confused as long as they do not know what the archetype is, and the "hardcore" players have them down pat (except the easily confused Kain and Abel, of course). An article would aid them in their understanding. Archetypes are based off of many factors, not just one. Stefan is an Oguma because he has the stats of an Oguma in a game where the traditional class does not exist, for example. And Gordon is actually a relatively accepted archetype that refers to an archer who joins at a relatively or even very early point in the game and is always an ally (Rolf, Neimi, Wil, Wolt, etc.). --RidFanOne 02:08, 14 November 2006 (UTC)

text: That still doesn't justify an article as they are simply fan names; the archetypes have no official status and are not mentioned in any official sources. Axem Titanium 02:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree. If we're not keeping history-making characters, why keep archetypes? Heck, at least history-making characters are well defined, even though I don't care who the first female Nomad was (and I don't think anyone does) etc... Also why expect fans to know more than should be needed. Only a huge minority actually use archetypes. As I said, archetypes have no real or mainstream use, other than to describe certain characters, but why call Stefan an "Ogma" when you can just call him Stefan? (Stefan being Ogma was a farce anyway. If you don't understand scroll to the bottom of this [large] post) Also true "hardcore" fans don't care about archetypes. Do you care about archetypes? Also Gordon being a relatively accepted archetype is BS to me. If he gets an archetype, why don't we give one to each early class? I don't see a Sheeda archetype being listed, a Minerva archetype, a Linda archetype (actually I saw this once), or a Chiki archetype, etc. Aveyn Knight 15:00, 14 November 2006 (U
Well, couldn't it be listed uder "popular fan terms"? Just don't note them as official archetypes, I thought the page was incredibly informative and excellent in developing understanding of the roles in Fire Emblem, it seems a shame to lose that. Ashnard talk 14:06, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  character archetypes 

message: Well, we should have a list of the different classes in this series, shouldn't we?  --Luigifan 00:21, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be treading dangerously close to game guide material. Axem Titanium 02:57, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A character class list may have been included in the Japanese Wikipedia article. Decimus Tedius Regio Zanarukando 16:13, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Character classes

message: I am removing this link per WP:EL (our policy on external linking) for the following 4 reasons (in rough order of relevance):
# It distributes copyrighted material, namely sprite and music rips.
# It is a fansite, and hence only indirectly related to the article's subject. According to the policy page, in order for a site to be directly linked to the article's subject there must be "both a relation from the website to the subject of the article, and a relation from the subject of the article to the website.", with a fansite being used as the example of what you shouldn't link to. "An alternative site run by fans is not symmetrically related to the video game (rock band in the original quote), as the video game (rock band) has only indirect connections with that site."
# External links should be kept to a bare minimum.
# It is a social networking site.
Do not readd the link. Thank you. --tjstrf talk 09:14, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fire Emblem Planet external link 

message: The recurring themes section has become rather long in the tooth. Either information needs to be weeded out to highlight the most significant recurrances or the section needs to be moved/reorganized in a fashion that isn't as obtrusive. --Hailinel 01:26, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I say take the "divine sword of original research-slaying +1" and hack away at it until there isn't any of that stuff left. Axem Titanium 02:03, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. It's outta here! --Hailinel 07:20, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recurring themes 

message: Since the game currently has no official international title, there should be no reference to the title as official in the Fire Emblem series as released under an English name. Like the past 3 games in the series, I doubt that they will keep the title exactly as translated. 
-'-WNF 12:03, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unofficial Title 

message: Per the closing of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Magic in the Fire Emblem series, I've proposed that both Weapons in the Fire Emblem Series and Magic in the Fire Emblem series be merged here. Any comment or feedback is appreciated, and especially work towards the merge itself. Thanks, as always. :) Luna Santin 23:11, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There was talk of doing something like this some time ago, but the general consensus at the time was don't merge because the information in these articles is superfluous to the nature of the main Fire Emblem article, which is to provide a general overview and history of the series. Detailed specifics such as those listed in the magic and weapon articles should not be merged here.--Hailinel 06:41, 24 January 2007 (UTC)

text: The move to create a separate magic article was considered necessary at the time because there was no other place for it. If it fits better in a general Fire Emblem mechanics article, that's fine. I'd support creating such an article. My main concern is simply that it not become cluttered within this article, which is focused on the series in general and its history.--Hailinel 04:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then again, why not delete both of them? They're hardly notable (it's enough to mention the triangles, wikipedia doesn't have to cover every detail), and a game mechanics article would also have to include supports, class abilities, etc. and I think those are covered well enough on the main page and the individual game pages. Can you tell me how I can make a motion for deletion? SubStandardDeviation 09:40, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not experienced with motioning articles for deletion. I know that there's a banner used to mark articles as recommended for deletion, but I'm not certain of what the code for it is. It's been a while since I've seen an article marked like that. In any case, I'll clean the detailed magic information from the main article.--Hailinel 04:29, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, both the weapon and magic articles have notability tags now.--Hailinel 04:35, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge from Weapons & Magic in Fire Emblem Series articles 

message: I just noticed the merge tag applied the Fire Emblem (anime) article. There's no reason to merge the article relating to the anime production into the main Fire Emblem article. By that logic, all of the articles relating to each individual Fire Emblem title would have to be merged into this one, and that's just not possible.
Once again, don't merge the anime article here.--Hailinel 05:57, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Stop the merging, already!

message: WEN DID THE FIRST GAME COME OUT? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.195.132.253 (talk) 19:58, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you read the article about the first game, you'd find that it was released in Japan on April 20, 1990.--Hailinel 22:33, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  START DATE 

message: Would anyone here agree to the creation of a separate list article detailing the various character classes Fire Emblem uses and their differences from game to game? It might make for good supplemental material for the gameplay section of this article. It would also help in distinguishing the FE classes from those used in other RPGs and SRPGs.--Hailinel 00:43, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's an excellent idea, and I would help you contribute to it.  Ashnard talk 08:50, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Something like..Ranger > Lord (the description of each one, their weapons...)?? Well, let's try. Armando.Otalk • Ev 13:51, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character classes 

message: Hailinel, why did you remove FEW from the links? Wait, are you Thunk (a disgruntled ex-forum member) under a different alias? Ashnard talk 18:05, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No. I don't even know who Thunk is. It's just been deleted so often in the past (and the previous conversation above is so argumentative) that I deleted it just to be safe. If there's good reason for the link to be there, then it should be added, but the reasoning behind it should be well-stated before another argument like the one above breaks out.--Hailinel 18:45, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's just an FE resource not much better or worse than the other fan sites, so it has the same reason for being there as the other links, the person adding the link is going to keep on trying, and I feel it is unfair to deprive them on the basis of an argument, it's quite a good site, and I only found about it via that link before. Ashnard talk 18:49, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lol, your username is "Ashnard"...  well, isn't that ironic?  Do you mind if I call you "Mad King Ashnard" or "King of Daein"?  XD  --Luigifan 19:07, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was just a joke...  --Luigifan 12:11, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Errr...I knew that, I have a sense of humour, honest. Luigifan What sort of Username is that, it should be something like "Bowserfanboy" or "Wario's_bitch" Ashnard talk 18:29, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fire Emblem World? 

message: It would be more worthwhile putting the history of the series in whole making the "International Release" section look more encylclopedic and give it more reason to be there, not only that, you can still note when the series saw an international release. It would also proove more beneficial to people new to the series so they can learn all of the history instead of just one part. Samusfan80 18:14, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please change the "International Release" section into a whole FE history section! 

message: What happened with the Infobox that had the characters, enemies, ect? Black Omnimon 21:42, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Infobox 

message: I'm just thinking, maybe we need to rethink what is allowed on the external links. Personally, I'm all for what we've done so far - only having official sites and the one fansite with the most information linked. However, there've been arguments over the deletion of fansites from the list and we should either put clearly what is okay to link to or not on the article so that people can see it as they edit, or decide on a new policy here. Thunk 00:03, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case, what 3 websites should be included? Would Fire Emblem World necessarily make the top 3? As you said, it's not much better or worse than other sites. If it doesn't make it, would people  stop trying to add it? Aveyn Knight 23:36, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: "It is also hinted to be one of the twelve holy weapons in the game." Just interested- is there a source to this? Aveyn Knight 11:32, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming of the series

message: Fire Emblem was originally planned for release on the Nintendo 64, but the project was canned. Many people believe the battle sequences were imported to the Gamecube version, thus explaining the "stiffness" many fans complained about.
I think it was nice to point out about the planned release, but the last part is purely speculation. Also who are these "many people"? Aveyn Knight 18:57, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, the notorious weasel words, that part really should be either deleted or cited. There's some wiki regulation about that sort of stuff somewhere, so I'll delete the last part now. Cheers for the spot. Ashnard Talk 19:49, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: FE on Nintendo 64

message: :I admit, I don't know much of the series and have barely started the second GBA game, but this one thing really stands out to me:
::In the English translated credits it says the show was based on "Fire Emblem: Secret of Crest" instead of "Mystery of the Emblem".
:There's really not that much difference in meaning to "Secret of [the] Crest" and "Mystery of the Emblem". "Mystery" and "secret" are synonyms of one another, just as "crest" and "emblem". It is for this reason I'm deleting the last part of the phrase as both translations are legitimate (and it would be pointless in this regard to even discuss alternate translations). Drumpler 04:29, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I deleted the sentence altogether and placed "Secret of the Crest" under the translation section. Since the name could be translated either way, I decided to rely on the "official" translation as used in the authorized English OAV. Drumpler 04:35, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not too knowledgable about Wikipedia, but wasn't it recommended to use the most commonly known names where possible? Mystery of the Emblem is the more commonly used name in this case. Intelligent Systems (and/or whoever works for them) are often not consistent in their names (especially in the past), so even if "Secret of the Crest" was used once, "Mystery of the Emblem" may have been used elsewhere. Further inconsistencies include Henry/Anri, Jeigan/Jaigan etc. Also the object in the game is also specifically referred to as an "Emblem" (Emuburemu). Aveyn Knight 14:28, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is an issue I think would be best addressed on the game in question's talk page, not this Wiki article, and probably best addressed within that article itself. It really is a small matter, however. Drumpler 23:29, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Concerning Intelligent Systems, is there reference anywhere to being an official translation by them? Drumpler 23:32, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Secret of the Crest

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Fire Emblem The Sacred Stones.JPG

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:GBA Fire Emblem Box.jpg

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Fuuin no Tsurugi.jpg

message: I tagged all the images above. No need to worry. Drumpler 02:21, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair Use

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Seisen no Keifu.jpg

message: This otherwise fairly good edit would've been better had the personal attack not been included. No flaming, whoever you are. :| Drumpler 03:24, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wow. 

message: Just about everything that is outside the Fire Emblem main scope (individual characters, the magic page) has now been redirected here. I've moved "Magic in the Fire Emblem series" to a gaming wikia. This has been a major clean up of the Fire Emblem articles. I hope that more people can contribute to discussions in the side articles of Fire Emblem because the effort and response on talk pages has been waning. Thank you. Ashnard Talk Contribs 17:36, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ayra, Celiec and Sigurd have been moved to "egamia". Ashnard Talk Contribs 18:07, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mergers 

message: Basically...
*Fire Emblem = disambiguation page, which would contain...
**The GBA game
**The NES game (as it has been referred to as simply "Fire Emblem" as a shorthand name)
**The series
**The Wii game (as it has been referred to as simply "Fire Emblem" at many points)
*Fire Emblem (series) = new location for this page
*Fire Emblem (Game Boy Advance) = GBA game
Ta-dah. - A Link to the Past (talk) 21:40, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As I stated on your Talk page, I see no reason against the move. I'd like you to explain how a disambiguation page would arise though. Ashnard Talk Contribs 22:51, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to "Fire Emblem (series)" 

message: You may have acknowledged that I've been adding references profusely. Basically, I'm pushing for GA status. Hope some of you guys will help me out. Ashnard Talk Contribs 09:10, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wonder if there's too many references, but I guess it's the norm after seeing a few other articles. Those two sections sound good anyway. I might try and start the in-universe one. Aveyn Knight 13:27, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Too many? Pah. Never too many for Ashnard or FE! Only joking. Cheers Aveyn Knight. I think there just should be a small entry detailing how there's usually one super being and conjurer of being etc. Only a small bit though. Ashnard Talk Contribs 13:35, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

text: By super being, do you meant like Zephiel, Ashnard, Lyon and etc? I suppose those would go under recurring general storyline? However I worry they won't last, like what happened in the past. Perhaps its too trivial and superflous to the general article. At least the information about the Fire Emblem is relatively important, interesting and well-defined. Aveyn Knight 17:01, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This "too many" thing is bothering me so I'll ask around to see if it's to the article's detriment. Ashnard Talk Contribs 13:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

text: By super being I mean the dragons, Formortiis, The Goddess in PoR. Maybe we should ignore that. All I want is some part that links the continents to the game — not a "recurring" section. Maybe something like this:
Elibe: Sword of Seals,Fire Emblem. etc. Ashnard Talk Contribs 17:12, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Plus, a brief mention of how having two games based on one continent can make links between the characters of the two games. Father>Daughter between games. Ashnard Talk Contribs 17:16, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, I ended up adding a section about the Manaketes. I'm not sure if it's important enough, but it is key recurring feature in the series, and has a mention in the equivilant Japanese page. Aveyn Knight 19:18, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Okay, but I think we should leave it at that and not add any more. Anything else will pretty much be redundant info. Cheers, I'll try reference all the stuff taht's been added now. Ashnard Talk Contribs 19:22, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Also, I don't know too much about this, but isn't that other continent called Valencia instead of Barensia? Please correct me if I'm wrong. Ashnard Talk Contribs 19:24, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Barensia is the same as Valencia. Barensia is used officially in Fire Emblem: The Complete. I don't know any official sources that use Valencia. I could perhaps get a scan of the source. Aveyn Knight 19:28, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, if you can source that, then please do. Or you can show me the link and I'll do it. Ashnard Talk Contribs 19:29, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since I can't source to save my life: Map. Aveyn Knight 19:36, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: All done, cheers Vincent;-). Ashnard Talk Contribs 19:43, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Push for GA 

message: Hello, I was thinking it may be a good idea to add the link to Hardcore Gaming 101's article on the series as its very informative.  It can be found here:
It contains info on the Satellaview Fire Emblem which isn't listed on the game list and may be worth adding also.
Thanks. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lockshaw13 (talk • contribs) 18:40 16 July 2007 (UTC)
:I'll have to look up Wiki's external link policy to see what's acceptable before we decide. Thnaks for the heads up though. Ashnard Talk Contribs 18:11, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, that's an excellent site — how come I haven't spotted this on a Google search. I've looked at the policy and see no reason not to include it, although the external links should be kept to a minimum. A really decent resource — thanks. Ashnard Talk Contribs 21:42, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Personally I don't see anything worthy there that isn't already on Wikipedia or the History of Fire Emblem that is already present in the external links. It does mention TearRing Saga, but that technically isn't a Fire Emblem game, and it does have information, albeit brief, on the BS Fire Emblem. It is a decent read though, and could be used to reference the BS Fire Emblems (although I may know a better source). Aveyn Knight 21:46, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Maybe the two shouldn't co-exist; I find the more recent site more comprehensive. The other has been used as a source anyway. Should we remove 'History of Fire Emblem'? There aren't many sites out there that give this information — most sites don't have a clue considering the Japanese releases. So, if you agree, I'll remove 'History of Fire Emblem'. Ashnard Talk Contribs 21:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  On a side note, we should get fair-use rationales for all the images and a referenced 'Reception' section before we should nominate this for GA. Once that's been done, I think we should put it up for GA. Ashnard Talk Contribs 21:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't think they should co-exist, as they contain pretty much the same content. Although I think History of Fire Emblem is better, I guess it would be alright to keep the more recent site instead, seeing as it is less outdated. Aveyn Knight 22:01, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: If it's okay with you, may I delete the 'History' one as the other is already there under references? It's just this way, both can be on the article as the other is under references. I'll edit it out now and them I'm probably going to bed — if you disagree, then just revert it. By the way, I respect your FE knowledge if you can make better pages than them; I know that you've made your own Fe sites. Bye. Ashnard Talk Contribs 22:07, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Link Addition