Talk:Don Ienner

message: Hi, it's nice to meet you! I'm Garrett Ienner, (Don Ienner's son) and my understanding is that I should make suggestions here rather than make any changes myself because I'm connected to the subject. I believe there are some important updates and additions to be made, and am listing them below with sources. Happy to discuss anything with you all.
*Please add my father's birth year, 1951, to the first line of the article. I can give you the exact birthdate, of course, but I read that without a good source, Wikipedia can't use any personal information I might have about my father. I was only able to find a good source that says his age, and from there you can calculate the year he was born. The line should look like this:
:Don Ienner (/ˈaɪnər/ EYE-nər; born 1951 )
*The following list of notable performers whose careers he promoted:
:Ienner promoted artists including Bob Dylan, Mariah Carey, Beyoncé, Whitney Houston, Lauryn Hill, Bruce Springsteen, Leonard Cohen, Jeff Buckley, Tony Bennet, Miles Davis, Carly Simon, Grateful Dead, Robert Johnson, and Alice in Chains.
*The reference to restaurants in the introduction (beginning at "As of 2012…") should likely be removed. There is no source to support this, so it would make more sense for the last sentence to read as follows, with the same source as is on the page now:
:As of 2012, Ienner was a music business consultant, and a principal in an advertising agency.
*His career in music began when he was still in high school, a fact which is covered in the current source in the Early career section. Let's include that context as follows:
:In 1969, Ienner began his career in the music industry by taking a job in the mailroom of Capitol Records while still in high school.
*Another small thing- In the last sentence of the Early career section, "Jimmy Ienner" is repetitive. We already know Jimmy Ienner is my dad's brother from the first paragraph of the section.
I hope I did this correctly. Thank you for your help! GarrettEye (talk) 13:15, 2 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I've implemented most of the changes --FMSky (talk) 14:36, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks so much  for implementing almost all of my edit request above. Could you explain to me why you left out the list of performing artists whose careers were positively affected by my father? I think his influence on the careers of some of the most popular musicians in modern times is a key component of what makes him notable, and belongs in the introduction.  I would love to understand why you disagree? All the best, GarrettEye (talk) 15:20, 1 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:   Edit requests to Introduction and Early career sections 

message: Hello. I would like to suggest the following small changes be made to the last paragraph in the article that begins "In a 2017 interview with Howard Stern…" I believe my suggested edits adhere more accurately to the sources supporting the paragraph, and removes extraneous, unrelated information.  All the changes are just to the first sentence of that last paragraph, except for the last bullet point:
*Delete "strongly implied" and replace with "said".
*Delete the word "of" and replace with "'the president of the company' made a" (include the quotation marks since it is a quote from the source.)
*Remove the 's' from 'remarks'
*Delete "Ienner made about the background vocalist on Mellencamp's" and replace with "to his manager in"
*Delete "single 'Peaceful World.'"
*Remove the parenthesis that are around the third sentence.
After the edits the final paragraph will look like this:
::In a 2017 interview with Howard Stern, the singer-songwriter John Mellencamp said that he left Columbia Records because the "president of the company" made a racist remark to his manager in 2001.  The British singer George Michael claimed to have overheard Ienner referring to him as a "faggot," triggering the singer's 1994 legal effort to dissolve his contract with Columbia. Michael lost the case and Ienner denied using the term.
Thanks so much. GarrettEye (talk) 09:09, 3 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I've implemented these changes, they seemed like improvements --FMSky (talk) 03:56, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improve last paragraph of "Columbia Records & Sony Music" section 

message: Thank you so much  for implementing the above edit request. I have a few more suggestions that I hope you will also feel comfortable adding to the Columbia Records & Sony Music section.
*Below the paragraph that begins "In 1994, Ienner was promoted to chairman…" please add the following paragraph:
::Between 1989 and 2001 Ienner “transformed Sony’s Columbia division from a washed-up pop monolith into a muscular hit-making machine,” according to the Los Angeles Times. Under his auspices the label re-established itself as a force in rock, rap, and R&B. Revenue went from $300 million in 1989 to $730 million in 2000. Bob Dylan called Ienner an “unstoppable force.”
*Below the paragraph that begins "In 2003, Ienner was named chairman of Sony Music Label Group…" please add the following five paragraphs:
::In June 2006, Ienner left as chairman of Sony Music Label Group U.S. after 18 years at Sony and less than three years after being promoted to chairman.
::After leaving Sony, Ienner became principal at IMO Entertainment, and an artist manager and consultant to Universal Music.
::In 2010, Ienner founded cloud-based social content player IMHO Media.
::Ienner, together with John Hamlin, managed the band Hot Chelle Rae in 2011.
::Ienner invested in the use of technology to predict hit songs. In 2003, during work on Beyoncé’s first solo album, there was a disagreement between Beyoncé and Ienner about what the first single should be. Ienner sent several tracks from the album to be tested by the company Hit Predictor, which determined that “Crazy in Love” was the best choice. “Crazy in Love” became a major hit, winning two Grammies in 2004.    
Could you also take a look at the above edit request labeled "Columbia Records & Sony Music section" and see if you think any of the bullet points that were not already implemented could be? Thanks so much for all your editing work. GarrettEye (talk) 15:33, 4 January 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Encoded  Talk 💬 07:23, 9 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Later career