Talk:Presbyterian Ladies' College, Sydney

message: i think that the photos of the plc sydney and armidale students should be removed as they are under the age of 18 and it could be a danger to their safety. i also think that adding the number of staff at the school would be an interesting feature. -a plc student —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.45.121.176 (talk • contribs) 17:42, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's the type of thing I'm thinking of, the release only really applies to images taken by the school for the school. ˜danjel [ talk | contribs ] 06:12, 2 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos of PLC Students

message: The previous assessment was:
This article needs a major trimming and reorg. Six of the ten inline references are duplicates and the reference section should be made inline. Much of the information is only of local interest. Adam McCormick 04:35, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: I think the infobox used in this article is far superior to the Australian Private School one (Template:Infobox Aust school private) that is apparently supposed to be used. In my opinion, the Austschoolprivate one is not overly suitable to schools like P.L.C (and the AHIGS and GSV schools), and it doesn't look as nice either. Must all of the large number of Aust private school articles using the infobox in this article be changed to the inferior one when the existing one works just nicely?? It all seems a bit rediculous to me. Thoughts, opinions?? Loopla 16:07, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This should be brought up at the talk page of the Aust School Private template. Twenty Years 16:48, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Infobox

message: Although there is no absolute rule about the use of periods in abbreviations, the WP MoS says "in general, avoid them". CMOS agrees.
A quick peek at the article shows that many long and common abbreviations follow this recommendation: AHISA, JSHAA, ABSA, AHIGS, IGSSA, ISDA, RAAF, AM, ACER, CBD, YWCA.
However, all of the academic degrees are given with periods: B.A., LL.D., D.Sc., etc.
Two of the most used abbreviations appear in various forms: P.L.C., P.L.C, PLC, N.S.W, N.S.W., NSW
According to the MoS, the only absolute rule is that we be consistent throughout the article. Absent any strong feelings to the contrary, I would recommend we eliminate the periods. I'll let this issue sit here for a few days for feedback, and whatever the consensus is, I'll include this in my copyedit of the article. --AnnaFrance (talk) 15:59, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I see Loopla has taken care of this for me, without the need of any discussion. :) --AnnaFrance (talk) 15:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)

text: I'll go ahead and guess Preparatory school (UK). --Jh12 (talk) 13:56, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Great. I'll continue on and let you work on the lead. As the new kid in town, I'm still trying to get situated here. Sometimes a genuine, critical copyedit is wanted, sometimes the article's owner only wants the formatting brought in line with MoS. Since so much was made of redundancies and awkward constructions in the FA review, I'll try a slightly heavier copyedit. If anyone has a problem with any of my edits, please just say so—I'm not emotionally invested. --AnnaFrance (talk) 17:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyedit: Periods in abbreviations 

message: I noticed that a disambiguation cleanup was reverted, but no correction was made. As part of the page cleanup, we need to remove all wikilinks to disambiguation pages. If the redirect chosen by the DAB person wasn't the correct one, somebody needs to go to the DAB page and choose the more appropriate article. --AnnaFrance (talk) 15:19, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll go ahead and guess Preparatory school (UK). --Jh12 (talk) 13:56, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation 

message: Thanks for taking on the copyedit AnnaFrance!. User:Loopla is the primary editor of the article, so I believe she can address the disambig problem. Regarding the lead, User:Tony1 at the first FA nomination brought up some good points. I have a temp page at User:Jh12/Draft4 where I'm trying to revise it. --Jh12 (talk) 16:15, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Great. I'll continue on and let you work on the lead. As the new kid in town, I'm still trying to get situated here. Sometimes a genuine, critical copyedit is wanted, sometimes the article's owner only wants the formatting brought in line with MoS. Since so much was made of redundancies and awkward constructions in the FA review, I'll try a slightly heavier copyedit. If anyone has a problem with any of my edits, please just say so—I'm not emotionally invested. --AnnaFrance (talk) 17:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead 

message: In the History section, there is a reference to acres (hectares), and in the Campus section we have hectares (acres). Which measurement system would you like to get prime position? --AnnaFrance (talk — blunders) 15:27, 27 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Based on an unscientific sampling of government websites , I'll go ahead and change the prime measurement to hectares. --Jh12 (talk) 06:02, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Measurements 

message: In the Curriculum section, Secondary, 3rd paragraph: "HSC English is compulsory and Standard, Advanced, Extension courses and 2-unit English as a Second Language are offered."
What courses are being listed here? HSC English and a 2-unit English as a Second Language: that's 2. What do "Standard", "Advanced", and "Extension" refer to?
--AnnaFrance (talk — blunders) 13:52, 28 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Near as I can tell, completing a course in English (Advanced), English (Standard), or English as a Second Language (ESL) is required to graduate with a Higher School Certificate or "high school diploma" in New South Wales. Students in English (Advanced) may choose to study, in addition, English (Extension) courses. Extension courses are "designed for students with a desire to pursue a specialized study of English." --Jh12 (talk) 06:21, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Curriculum 

message: Would somebody check the last paragraph of the Sport section, specifically for the mentions of "eight"? Sometimes it's given as "eight", sometimes as "VIII". Normally I would think they should all be rendered one way or the other, but I know nothing about rowing. --AnnaFrance (talk — blunders) 14:21, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: All the sources listed call it "eight", not "VIII", and it looks like that's how the IOC refers to it in the Olympic games so I'll change it to "eight" --Jh12 (talk) 14:49, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sport - rowing 

message: I've finished the first pass through for grammar, usage, etc., and I've just made a list of all items mentioned in the FA review that haven't been addressed yet. Here's a rough draft on the to-do list:
* Jh12, you're working on the lead section, so that's already in progress.
* One-sentence paragraphs are not good. That brings up the last sentence/paragraph in the History section, about the 120th anniversary. If someone could find anything else to say here it would be appreciated.
* Periods should be inside quotation marks? That is simply wrong. According to WP:PUNC, "Punctuation marks are placed inside the quotation marks only if the sense of the punctuation is part of the quotation." <-- as the period was just there
* I'm going through the History section now, trying to see where material can be cut.
* One of the reviewers was absolutely against lists of any kind in articles. There is no particular rule or guideline about that in the WP:MOS, but they warn that some reviewers won't like it. Personally, I feel that lists are the clearest was to present data in many cases, but here the data in question may not be wanted (at least in as much detail), so maybe the lists should be reconsidered. I'll take a look.
* Finally, and as an extension to the issue of the lists, many suggestions (all from one reviewer, I believe) were made about cuts and reorganization. Although I like this article as is, I realize it is rather long by WP standards, so I'll go through these suggestions and see what can be done.
If anyone has any strong opinions about any of this, please speak now. --AnnaFrance (talk — blunders) 14:08, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't thank you enough for the great copyedit work. I'm afraid the person most familiar with the school is probably busy, so I'll see if I can do some research on that reference or find something about the 120th anniversary, as well as address some of the stuff above. --Jh12 (talk) 05:10, 11 August 2008 (UTC)

text: Thanks for helping with the lead Tony! I still need to see if I can cut out some of the commas in the first sentence, possibly reworking the order of the sentences. I think for now we'll keep the autoformatting. The way Wikipedia does it is rather random though. Best, --Jh12 (talk) 05:10, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyedit &ndash; where it stands now 

message: I've created the new Campus section, with bits and pieces from the History section, and the list of campus buildings is gone. The changes:
* The bits and pieces have been removed from the History section.
* The reductions have meant that fewer images fit, so some images have been removed.
* The Second World War section was entirely about the campus, so that material has been moved and the WWII section removed.
* Anything significant that was removed (list of buildings, images, WWII section) were commented out, not deleted.
Work created: The images should probably get another review, and possibly moved to more attractive locations. Also, when a final decision is made, the commented-out material needs to be used or deleted.
--AnnaFrance (talk — blunders) 13:54, 23 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Campus section 

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