Talk:All Souls' Day

message: The November 2 New year of 360-day calendar of Babylon's first king the Amorite Samu-Abum in 1894bc. Every 480 (sothic) Julian years will equal 487 of 360-day having returned. It will always be day Wu (Woo) of Chinese 10-day cycle, and  Mayan day imix of 20-day cycle (which falls on kin 1 of every tun). In Mayan this 360-day is shifted 20 days so that the date is always kin 1 of uinal 17. Caution: This is a November 2 Julian date which in this century will fall on Gregorian November 15. This is what proves the Greg.August 11 epoch 3114bc is West of Europe and that the Asian source of Mayans is an East of China Greg.August 12 for day Ahau/ kin-zero (the day before day-imix of kin-1). This also verifies that once the 1894bc Babylon was calculated by scholars, that other versions of Babylon alternatives do not match All Souls Day. Once every 480 years, there exists one span of matching 137-year dates. Example new year Oct 12 of 2370bc matches new year Oct 12 of 2233bc (claimed as 100-year Chinese Yu as Shiloh; but this Shiloh is death of Shelah, or Hindu Shivah the destroyer). All Souls Day is Nov 2 because this 137-year (139 of 360-day) follows 2031bc Nov 1 All Saints Day as new year. If you are not extremely critical of Genesis Noah this 137 years is Noah's new year 944 as Saints Day to new year 1083 as  Souls Day.--75.86.64.46 (talk) 16:08, 2 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin

message: Poland actually celebrates this on November 1st - but it's called All Saints Day.
:That's because it's a different holiday. Boneyard90 (talk) 21:54, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: What the writer probably suggested was that - as All Saints is a holiday of obligation, frequently recognized as a public holiday in Catholic countries - the typical official All Souls Day practices, such as the parish procession to the cemetry with benediction of graves, litany for the benefit of the poor souls, recitation of the names deceased in the previous year, and so on have, by a long standing custom, been moved to All Saints (afternoon, mostly) - so much that All Saints is typically associated with death and even mourning by the local populace. (Thus in Bavaria, it is forbidden to dance in public establishments on All Saints, as incompatible with the serious character of the day, while the law does not lose one word over All Souls...) However, if there's Mass, it must always be of All Saints and in white vestments; there is no option for a black (or violet) vestment All Souls mass on Nov 1st.--2001:A61:216D:F301:5DAB:5433:73BF:417E (talk) 22:55, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Poland

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message: Shouldn't the article reside at All Souls' Day? dab (ᛏ) 08:29, 22 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Title

message: The supposed painting of All Soul's Day by Bouguereau 1859 is actually that of "All Saint's Day". The only public domain image I am aware of in relation to All Soul's Day is by Witold Pruszkowski 1888. 
Also the person making the statement about Poland is partially incorrect. All Saint's Day is celebrated on November 1st, but All Soul's Day which is different again is actually celebrated on November 2nd unless as mentioned in the article it falls on a Sunday. 
The pagan reference to the dead on All Soul's Day is also I believe incorrect. Based on the Celtic Samhain and Voudon it is believed that the dead arise to mingle with the living at the feast on Samhain eve, also known as All Hallow's Eve, 31st October. 203.208.116.68 01:24, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect Image 

message: The Bouguereau painting is "Jour des morts" or day of the dead, which corresponds to All Souls Day on Nov 2. The women are clearly mourning a relative, which fits with All Souls. Toussaint is All Saints Day, Nov 1.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.111.149.37 (talk) 11:40, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image correct 

message: Does wikipedia need a professional writer for this?  If wikipedia asks the vatican, do you think they would actually sponsor such a candidate? 74.65.109.92 (talk) 06:27, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Importance within the catholic church

message: "The official Latin designation Commemoratio omnium Fidelium Defunctorum, on which this last name is based, is rendered more literally in Portuguese Comemoração de todos os Fiéis Defuntos and many other languages." Indeed it can be rendered that way in Portuguese as in many other languages. The usual designation of the day, in Portuguese, is "Dia de Finados" (Day of the Departed). Moreover, it is popularly commemorated, in practice, November 1st (All Saints Day), as this is an holiday while November 2nd isn't. --Xyzt1234 (talk) 21:31, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Portuguese

message: If we can haveCategory:Christmas songs
List of Christmas hit singles
List of non-religious Christmas songsThen what about List of songs about All Souls' Day?Civic Cat (talk) 00:29, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: songs about All Souls' Day

message: Related to that last comment, why does this article not mention Soul Cakes, and the old custom of begging for them on November 2 while singing the Soul Cake song? ACEOREVIVED (talk) 00:16, 2 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Soul Cakes

message: Good to see that on All Soul's Day 2011, people are still editing this article - proving that people still remember the day! ACEOREVIVED (talk) 12:04, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, I'm from the future. I don't remember this day, I just saw it on the main page and decided to see what it was. But the lead didn't explain. So it's up to you to add the "what" part in 2011, so I (and others) never end up becoming confused and don't ask for your help. If my theory's correct, this message will disappear when the anomaly is corrected. Wikipedia readers of tomorrow are counting on you. Good luck! InedibleHulk (talk) 05:34, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Good to see something

message: The lead explains when it's observed and by whom just fine, and says it has to do with impure souls, but doesn't mention what the purpose or practice of the day is. I assume the living pray for their dead, and this helps them into Heaven. This (or whatever) should be in the first sentence. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:27, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  So...what is it?  

message: "Among continental Protestants its tradition has been more tenaciously maintained."  Which continent? People outside the UK also read wikipedia, and "continent" is not a synonym for "Europe".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.147.117.3 (talk) 11:39, 31 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Continental? 

message: The Catholic Church consists of about 22 rites such as Maronite, Syriac, Chaldean, Coptic, Syro-Malabar, etc.
One of them is the "Latin" or "Roman" rite.
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Catholic_rites_and_churches
It is therefore incorrect to refer to Catholicism as "Roman" Catholicism.
Grootdawid1 (talk) 00:15, 28 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of the term "Roman" Catholicism 

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message: I'm confused by the section on Demetrius Saturday which is followed in brackets by a statement that basically implies there is no Demetrius Saturday ("in all of the Orthodox Church").  It seems a bit suspicious since Oct 26 - fast of St Demetrius - is Nov 8 in the Julian calendar.  --Richardson mcphillips (talk) 11:18, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Byzantine tradition Demetrius Saturday 

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Suggest addition of photo showing multitudinous placement of candles in Polish cemeteries. Sca (talk) 00:05, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos

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message: This article has an inconsistent citation style, and I will attempt to bring it to a consistent style over a period of time in a number of edits according to what is considered helpful in WP:CITEVAR. Wayne Jayes (talk) 07:54, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
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message: I took the liberty to change "holiday" into Day of Commemoration because this is what the sources actually say. 
All Saints' Day has a unique liturgical and high liturgical rank. It cannot be suppressed by any festival or day of remembrance, but it is not a "holiday". (The preceeding All Saints' Day is a holiday). See also the table of precedence of liturgical dates in the Roman Rite which places the Commemoration of All the Faithful Departed on rank 3. Furthermore, see other sources such as  or, for example just . Other skilled sources could be brought if someone is in doubt.--Medusahead (talk) 09:13, 4 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  All Souls' Day is not a "holiday"