Talk:SimCity (1989 video game)

message: Anyone remember this classic? Interplay put it out for DOS around 1993. It pretty much was the Sim City DOS port, but with voiceovers and hilarious FMV sequences (of which Will Ferell wrote).Someone should create an article for it before I do. --Samr 03:44, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It's mentioned in the version list now (DOS 1994) with the FMV cutscenes and news reports --Bil Simser (talk) 16:30, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sim City:Enhanced Edition 

message: The article states that 3000 was the first and only version released for Linux. However, there was a release for Linux of the original SimCity.
ftp://sunsite.unc.edu/pub/Linux/games/strategy/scl_lnx_3.6b.lsm
:When was it released?  Is it an "official" version of the game?  Put the info in the article (please put download link in extern links section and not in the article proper).  Thanks!  — Frecklefoot | Talk 14:43, Jul 12, 2004 (UTC)
:: I ported the original SimCity to various Unix platforms (SunOS, Solaris, Irix, HPUX, OSF/1, Quarterdeck Desqview, NCD X terminal, etc) starting in 1992 for DUX Software, before Linux was standardized and stable enough to support commercial products. DUX did an early port to Linux (which the link refers to), and I eventually ported it to a later version of Linux, and to the OLPC (which runs Linux), and also other platforms (Mac, Windows, etc). SimCity for Unix was released as a commercial product in 1992, and won product of the year 1992 by Unix World in the January 1993 issue, and was reviewed in the April 1993 issue. http://www.art.net/~hopkins/Don/simcity/simcity-announcement.html ftp://ftp.uu.net/vendor/dux/SimCity Xardox (talk) 16:33, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Linux versions

message: Just equalizing this for the disambuigation article for Sin City. (Some spell the game Sim City.)
Please leave. It's not a uncommmon mistake.
:Yes, yes it is. At least, it would be uncommon for people not to realize their mistake and be unable to correct it on their own. We had already argued over this and considered it unnecessary; we don't need to argue over it again. - furrykef (Talk at me) 17:11, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo redirect 

message: The 'official' (Maxis/EA) chronology is badly off.  The first version of SimCity was for the C64, followed by a slightly different version for the Amiga.  (The C64 version featured roads and zones only.)  A little while later came the PC/DOS version - which added some additional buildings (stadiums and police IIRC).  A little while after that, the DOS version was given a fancy wrapper and became Sim City for Windows - now known as Sim City classic.  (There's also an add-on for The Sims that allows you to play Sim City inside The Sims, but it's 3rd party, not Maxis/EA.) Elde 08:52, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Versions 

message: I haven't played SQIV in a while, but I thought that "SimSim" was simply a "simulated simulator", not even a design tool. 68.9.205.10 10:35, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  SimSim 

message: I don't quite get the point of this section of the article. How the hell does simcity encourage statism or even 'evil' things like socialism? I am quite sure that the 'statist' nature of simcity has nothing to do with promoting an ideology, I think it's more to do with having a fun game to play. I mean if the free market did everything in the game, what would the mayor do? Build lots of mansions from all that lobbying money? However, you look at it, in order to have a fun city building game, the government has to have a lot of power. Please remove this stupid right-wing section from this article. Btw, I think simcity is pretty balanced in terms of ideological bias, while there an element of statism is certainly present, we also have things like complete occupational mobility and very little regulation. MvD 19:19, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That section doesn't say SimCity is evil (really simplifying it here, I know), it says that some people think it is. You may not agree with a viewpoint, but that doesn't automatically mean it doesn't deserve to be in Wikipedia. However, I do agree with you that the section as is, shouldn't be in Wikipedia. It mentions "some people" think SC is evil. Who? I'm sure "some people" think SimCity is a dumb game too, but that's hardly noteworthy. It's basically using weasel words. Of course once you click the little superscript-bookmark-1-thingy you get a long, and once you click on that, you find out it's Timothy D. Terrell (who?), so it's not "some people" at all. Actually (without reading the article) it seems it's only "1 people", so maybe the section can simply be deleted altogether after all. Retodon8 23:45, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  "You may not agree with a viewpoint, but that doesn't automatically mean it doesn't deserve to be in Wikipedia." Actually, NO viewpoint belongs in wikipedia, as the articles contained in wikipedia are not meant to contain opinions or points of view .--Alex 22:08, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The NPOV policy is that the article  must have a neutral point of view. However, Wikipedia articles are allowed to discuss points of view. The article cannot say "SimCity is evil", but if a large enough group of people do think SimCity is evil (for whatever reason), it would be perfectly proper to note it in the article. I don't think there is such a group, though. - furrykef (Talk at me) 14:57, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Criticism of Simcity

message: Whenever military bases are built in the game, crime goes up in the immediate area. In reality, this is patently false. --Haizum    μολὼν λαβέ 05:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Tell that to Japanese people around US military bases. 128.227.137.206 00:31, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Got a source for the lack of effect on crime? I'm sure it's been studied. Stan 02:22, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. We need a notable source that verifies this claim. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 15:06, 4 February 2007 (UTC)

text: That military bases in SimCity generate crime is not in dispute. It's "In reality, this is patently false" that requires verification. --Leperflesh 21:43, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sim City Liberal Bias 

message: Is the X11 version of SimCity (by DUX Software) a true port of the original game, or is it a similar game that bears the name 'SimCity'? Judging from the screenshot I’m leaning towards the latter. Since by ‘SimCity’ we generally think of the Maxis version of SimCity, I think the article should clarify the issue. --Anss123 17:51, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The X11 version is a true port, based on the original legally licensed Maxis source code for the Mac version of SimCity. Micropolis (open source SimCity) is based on that code, which was released under GPL3 by EA recently. I've cleaned up and reworked the code to make a C++/Python version of Micropolis, but the old X11 code is still available as well. http://code.google.com/p/micropolis/ Xardox (talk) 16:44, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  SimCity for the X11 

message: Why is there no mention of the SimCity Card Game?  --Mjrmtg 04:22, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because there isn't many who know about it? ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 07:58, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is an encyclopedia, maybe others would like to know about it :) --Mjrmtg 14:25, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the point. I'm curious too, but there aren't many people who know about this card game to help add anything about it. Guess I was misinterpreted. :( ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 11:53, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Card Game

message: Don Hopkins announced today that he is working on porting the game to the OLPC. --Basique 23:36, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  OLPC Port 

message: In the Amiga Version it is in 1957, in the SNES Version 1961. I think it is placed later because in 1961 Bowser is attacking the City and not the Standard Monster. 217.81.214.143 10:00, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tokyo scenario 

message: Should we start a page covering the entire series of SimCity games? The deletion of the SimCity 5 page would also need a better page than SimCity 4, its predecessor. — JuWiki (Talk <> Resources) 19:24, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just created one. — JuWiki (Talk <> Resources) 20:23, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series page? 

message: I made a few changes to the version list. First, I reduced the description of the DOS CD-ROM version from "added multimedia content in the form digitized photos, sounds and live-action video" to "featured 256-color graphics and added live-action video". The sounds (including some digitized speech) were already present in the previous SimCity Classic release, and I've never seen any digitized photos in this game. But the 256-color graphics made a big change.
For the Windows version, I corrected the release year from 1991 to 1992. This is a common mistake, because both the box and the disk labels have 1991 copyright notices. But in-game it clearly states 1992, and some of the files on the disk have 1992 timestamps too.—Graf Bobby 18:57, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Version list 

message: Why don't you make a article about Dr. Wright? He was a character to the Nintendo Sim City, you find info about him on the trophy on Super Smash Bros. Melee. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.234.118.159 (talk • contribs) 
:I have no special knowledge of this character, but the only mention we have of him is here.  Sounds pretty minor to me. — Frecklefσσt | Talk 12:02, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dr. Wright 

message: It seems that back in 1991, Famitsu reported on a NES version of SimCity that was to be released in America. See this link. I'm not really sure where its appropriate in this article, though. ~ Hibana 01:05, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  SimCity (NES) 

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message: :In Space Quest IV, in the Software Excess Store, a game called Sim Sim is available. It is described as a "simulated simulator specially designed for creating a simulated simulators" and that "you can create a simulated environment in which you can create any simulated environment you want".
"Creating a simulated simulators" is ungrammatical. Apparently it should be "creating a simulated simulator" or "creating simulated simulators"; which was the original quote? - furrykef (Talk at me) 11:19, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Space Quest IV quote 

message: IIRC, in the first SC increasing taxation and public spending worked to boost the economy. This caused some protests from fiscal conservatives. Drutt (talk) 11:08, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  If the so-called fiscal conservatives would stop having ridiculous "teabagging" parties and questioning Obama's citizenship, just because they're upset that we have a black president, they would be taken more seriously. http://www.donhopkins.com/drupal/node/9 "Everyone notices the obvious built-in political bias, whatever that is. But everyone sees it from a different perspective, so nobody agrees what its real political agenda actually is. I don't think it's all that important, since SimCity's political agenda pales in comparison to the political agenda in the eye of the beholder. Some muckety-muck architecture magazine was interviewing Will Wright about SimCity, and they asked him a question something like "which ontological urban paridigm most influenced your design of the simulator, the Exo-Hamiltonian Pattern Language Movement, or the Intra-Urban Deconstructionist Sub-Culture Hypothesis?" He replied, "I just kind of optimized for game play." " Xardox (talk) 16:48, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I played the first SimCity and I remember that increasing taxation depressed the economy in that game--95.93.13.6 (talk) 23:44, 25 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy 

message: Please add a section Computer System Requirement. That is very important.
 
I had started playing SimCity since MacIntosh version and then Windows 95, XP.
But after I bought SimCity Societies, and registered it, it never run on my XP PC...
just because of the graphic card problem.
It would be nice if potention players or buyers of any SimCity game can read the Wiki about SimCity and
see all the graphic cards that can be used to play it. Thanks.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 220.246.154.165 (talk • contribs) 
:SimCity Societies is not the same game as SimCity. For SimCity DOS you need an Enhanced_Graphics_Adapter, for SimCity Windows/Mac I think you can use any graphic card that works with Mac/Windows. For SimCity Societies you need a DirectX 9 card.--Anss123 (talk) 06:34, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Computer System Requirement 

message: In the Nintendo DX version of The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening,...
what is a nintendo dx?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Einstein95 (talk • contribs) 
:A typo for Nintenod DS (just a guess, so I didn't change). — Frεcklεfσσt | Talk 02:30, 10 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not Nintendo DX.  A "DX version of The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening" which is for a Nintendo system.  I don't currently see this text in the article, but the text as quoted is not entirely inaccurate. 2001:470:A:1FF:0:0:0:2 (talk) 21:30, 21 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  typo? 

message: These controversies over the supposed liberal biases of the game (re. taxation and spending, military and crime) should probably be mentioned in the article. Does anyone know of contemporary newspaper articles on this? Those would be very interesting. 2fort5r (talk) 05:52, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Politics

message: The table only lists a black & white Mac version, but the color one was gorgeous; it was one of the first color Mac games; and I think it came out before the black & white version; but I have no reference.  Anyone?  Comet Tuttle (talk) 20:14, 15 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Best thing I could find when looking it up was here, but that webpage isn't a good reference. All I can see from that is that it apparently played in both black in white and color seperately on the performa. Any better references? Maxis45 (talk) 19:31, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Color Mac version 

message: Why is there no mention of Stanislaw Lem whom Will Wright credits as inspiration for the game? I believe that when the game was first released, Wright mentioned the author frequently in interviews promoting the game. (Since the game was released well before the internet became available to the masses, I doubt if most of these interviews are available online.) The best source I've found is PC Gamer. See also The Cyberiad or Mortal Engines. 75.37.22.109 (talk) 16:25, 8 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stanislaw Lem 

message: A new version for 2013 has been announced. see SimCity website
There is much writing to be done on this. 
Begin; enjoy
JTGILLICK (talk) 20:46, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sim City 2013 Announced 

message: Someone may want to mention that SimCity started as a game application on Facebook this past week (June 25?, 2012).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.92.14.172 (talk) 14:34, 29 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I own the Miicropolis Online page on Facebook (I think Don owns the domain) and we were running a JavaScript version using Laszlo and Turbogears but it's been long dead now. Bil Simser (talk) 16:44, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  SimCity on Facebook 

message: The two images in the article are not actually of Sim City, but of the Micropolis derivative. I suggest one be moved to the section dealing with Micropolis, and the other removed. Pinkbeast (talk) 17:15, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: Just read an article (https://medium.com/re-form/simcity-that-i-used-to-know-d5d8c49e3e1d) where Will Wright states the initial release date was February 1989 for the Mac and Amiga versions, with the IBM version releasing October 1989. I tried looking around for the exact February date but didn't find anything immediately. The "First release" date should be updated, yea? What should it be sans an exact date? Just 'February, 1989'?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheMaster42 (talk • contribs) 16:59, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Here is an NYTimes article dated June 15, 1989 saying the game is already widely available. I found the trademark application stating the name's first use in commerce as 1989-02-01. --Apoc2400 (talk) 11:01, 20 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Date 

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replies: text: Archive link seems to be a 404 and can't find a working version. Pinkbeast (talk) 16:47, 6 March 2018 (UTC)
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message: Just wondering if there should be a credits section listing the names of developers, graphic artists, etc. for the game? The sidebox does list the publisher and designer but there were programmers, sound engineers, etc. Should they be credited? Looked around on a few other game pages. Maybe the names of the programmers, etc. should just be added to the sidebox like they are on the Age of Empires page? Bil Simser (talk) 16:57, 5 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Credits? 

message: OK while I was writing this comment I searched and I found the somewhat controversial "1944 Hamburg Scenario" in which you have to rebuild the city after the Allies bombing. Anyway the tag "Video games about Nazi Germany", in my opinion, is not something that should be applied lightly. The reason should be added to the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.41.56.148 (talk) 12:36, 6 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is listed in "Video games about Nazi Germany"? 

message: I wonder why Macworld lists Simcity in their "New Products" section in August 1989, when the game supposedly came out in February 1989 for Mac/Amiga? I went through all of the 1989 issues and they list it only in August. See:  --Mika1h (talk) 14:53, 26 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mac date 

message: *Jeux & Stratégie nouvelle formule #3https://archive.org/details/jeux-et-strategie-nf-3/page/24/mode/2up
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thread_title:  Reviews