Talk:Urban area

message: Seems to be some tipping of the scales somewhat, London which can fit New York and its environs' into its footprint many times over is ranked on population alone when London if memory serves me right by AREA is the largest western city urban area and 11th globally coming in behind the Asian megacities.
Are Americans THAT desperate to be top of a list to put a digital thumb on the scales to skew things in their favour?   Heck you couldn't fit London into the whole of Area 51 and prob the air force range next to Area 51, it is bigger than some countries.   Now if you were to follow the American way of doing things, then London should include all the urban centres down to the Medway, as far as Southend on the northern shore of the Thames, as far west as Reading, Slough and Swindon even and north to St Albans, as these are all urban areas close to the outskirts of the Greater London Area.
92.25.15.99 (talk) 19:02, 16 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disingenuous ranking 

message: Just missing or seemingly not considered "important" is Phoenix, Arizona, with a city pop of 1.5 mil and 4+ mil metro, likely to approach the size of LA when the agricultural areas linking Phoenix and Tuscon slowly become urban. Yet, it's not a dot on that map. Just thought I'd point it out.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.231.72.139 (talk) 22:41, 9 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The urban areas pic 

message: There appears to be some edit warring to achieve a 'Fait accompli' for this related TfD.  I have restored the table, but it will obviously be removed if there is consensus to do so at TfD.  Thanks! Plastikspork ―Œ(talk) 18:50, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It's probably worth noting that the IP involved removed the equivalent template for Australia. I've restored that too. --AussieLegend (✉) 19:27, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
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message: This article has completely incompatible date for the different lists for different countries.  For some it is the largest city propers, for others the urban areas and others metropolitan.  Does anyone know why it was done this way?  Having inconsistent data is obviously totally misleading.  For example, the lists suggests that Sydney and Melbourne, Australia with around 5 million population listed are almost double the size of Toronto, Canada.  For Sydney and Melbourne their metro pops have been used whereas their city proper populations are actually only around 100,000 while the city proper population of 2.7 mil is given for Toronto, when in fact the urban area population is around 6.8 million, the Canadian definition of metro area is 5.6 million and using the United States definition of metro area the population would be 9.2 million.  It also gives misleading information within countries.  In Canada, the 9th largest urban area or metro area is Kitchener, Ontario (about 550,000 or 690,000 if nearby Guelph was included, as using the US definition it would be), but because there has been no minimal municipal amalgamation of smaller cities to Kitchener, unlike many other cities in Canada, the central city of Kitchener only has a population of 231,000 and does not make the list of even the top 20 city propers.
:: Every country uses their own demographics terminology and definitions of the same, so it is impossible to 'conformogromise' them into one universal scheme. But some insist on trying... every instance I've seen (since twelve years already) have, since they don't match reality (and institutional/source use), OR ESSAYs. And that's exactly why things are they are they way they are.
:: But I do also observe wholeheartedly that it can be confusing... perhaps some form of footnoting (for defining the terms used in each section/article) might help to clear that up. Cheers. TP ✎ ✓ 16:59, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Just putting a comment here with my two cents, this article is full of this. There are tables with a list of "urban areas" for each country but some like France and Japan aren't urban areas at all but city limits. Eopsid (talk) 19:22, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Chipping in to say, yes, this article is baaaaad. Most of these templates don't belong here. If no-one objects I'm going through to cull any that obviously aren't lists of urban areas, and I'm gunna be brutal. ҉ Randwicked ҉ 01:20, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Y'know, why wait any longer? This conversation started in March 2019 and no-one ever argued FOR the retention of all the irrelevant templates. Done. ҉ Randwicked ҉ 01:50, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm not sure what happened to the 'France' section since my last visit, but I took care of that, too. TP ✎ ✓ 18:05, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Information in Lists - City Proper versus Urban Area vs Metropolitan Area

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message: The list of US urban areas is placed on top of headlines "South America" and "Argentina". Please fix.--Bornsommer (talk) 14:47, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of U S urbanareas