Talk:Kobe beef

message: I saw a german documentary yesterday where the cattle were fed 1 bottle of beer a day to relief them of stress. In the article it is stated that this is not the case. Unfortunately i have no sources but maybe someone else got more info on that?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.88.117.149 (talk) 10:28, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beer 

message: I added a paragraph about the raising of Kobe beef based on Raymond Blanc's observations:
"The chef and restaurateur Raymond Blanc has described how Kobe beef production involves the use of confining pens which result in animals so weak that they have difficulty in walking due to the lack of exercise of their muscles. He also noted that slaughter takes place in an open dirty field, in front of animals that are about to be killed."
The source is http://oxfordsymposium.org.uk/36-os2007report/
This has been deleted by User:Traveling_Man with the reason given as "undo POV". How is it "point of view"? If the animals are confined to pens, that is a statement of fact. "POV" is if I wrote that "Kobe beef is produced using unnecessarily cruel methods". 92.21.6.103 (talk) 16:23, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: -bb is wallowing in his own ignorance. That chip on its shoulder should be knocked off.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.32.43.224 (talk) 02:43, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production methods 

message: "The proliferation of beef outside of Japan marketed as the Kobe beef is a troubling issue for Kobe beef farmers. Much like how sparkling wine may not be labeled "Champagne" unless it is produced in the Champagne region of France, the same is true in regard to "genuine" Kobe beef. Kobe beef comes from a specific breed and genetic lineage of cattle raised in the Hyogo prefecture according to the standards set by Kobe Beef Distribution and Promotion Council. This council also sets the rules regarding foreign exportation of Kobe beef and has tightly restricted trade with the exception of export to Macau and Hong Kong."
This may be true in the EU, but elsewhere you can certainly label any sparkling wine you want as Champagne. Particularly in the US, where place names are not copyrightable.169.232.131.133 (talk) 20:55, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Copyrightable? I don't know. However, U.S. law DOES prevent use of the term Champagne, except in limited circumstances. See http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/26/5388 . --Larry (talk) 02:17, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  There are some presses related to them--Mujaki (talk) 14:17, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Untrue

message: Thanks to some gentle prodding by an anonymous editor ("...this article is need of editing for clarity and flow...") , I've taken a few whacks at it: fixing grammar, making a few factual corrections, and moving sentences into their proper sections. However, it needs a lot more, and I'm ready to go to sleep. Any takers?--Larry (talk) 01:46, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: I've taken a whack at the clarity/flow issues. Is it good enough to remove this tag?--Larry (talk) 19:56, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm, no comments in a month and a half. Well, I guess I'll remove it.--Larry (talk) 02:15, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Remove {Cleanup|reason=this article is need of editing for clarity and flow} Tag?

message: I am reading contradictory descriptions about Kobe beef, as to whether it is ONLY male, or male AND female cattle.  Larry Olmsted, a writer from Forbes magazine, describes Kobe beef as young, male and female (http://www.forbes.com/sites/larryolmsted/2012/04/12/foods-biggest-scam-the-great-kobe-beef-lie/).  He uses cow and cattle interchangeably, as does this Wikipedia article, and cow and cattle will continue to be used somewhat interchangeably in everyday speak.  But it seems that in this article more precise language is called for.  This distinction is explained clearly elsewhere by others, including https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Beef&action=edit§ion=37.  Cow, cattle, bull, steer, heifer ...  what is Kobe beef.  (Master Chef (TV show) just stirred the pot yesterday (4 Sept 13) with "Kobe beef" a meat choice in the competition.)GeeBee60 (talk) 12:49, 5 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gender (cow / bullock / cattle) 

message: I just removed some text that had been commented out -- I don't know when -- and was thus not displayed. Part of the text was written more like an opinion piece; I wasn't sure of the utility of the rest. If anyone finds any of it useful, it could be rewritten and reinserted. --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 21:38, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing non-displayed text

message: In the history section we have:
and in the Kobe beef in other countries section we have:
I feel like only one of these statements can be true.
* Hi, , and thanks for your comment. I took the liberty of moving your comment to the bottom of the talk page; that is the convention for new comments. Also, please sign your comments with four tildes ( ~~~~ ); that will add your userid to your comment. OK, now to the good stuff! You made a good catch, although technically it's a true statement because the Kobe Marketing Association had never tried to export their beef from Japan to the U.S. until 2012. However, what actually happened is that the USDA didn't just ban the import of Kobe beef, but rather all Japanese beef. The cited reference does in fact say that. In a couple of minutes, I'll change the article to reflect that. Thanks for finding that problem! --Larry/Traveling_Man (talk) 15:41, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exports 

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