Talk:Miniature Schnauzer

message: According to The Guardian"Pets: Cats and dogs: Miniature schnauzer." Guardian [London, England], 20 Mar. 2010, p. 35. Academic OneFile, http://link.galegroup.com/apps/doc/A221771906/AONE?u=mcc_pv&sid=AONE&xid=8d0eaf0b. Accessed 12 Feb. 2019., Miniature Schnauzers have an easygoing temperment which makes them popular among families and children. They are highly trainable for their size and are very loyal dogs.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kaylinhoward (talk • contribs) 03:25, 13 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Temperament

message: Miniature schnauzers also come in chocolate and parti-colors such as black and white.. although those colors are not accepted by akc, they do exist and are owned by many people.... Maybe that could somehow be added to the article. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Ltshears (talk • contribs) 19:55, 11 November 2008
:If you can find a published source for this material (yes, I know, silly but necessary per Wiki policy), then it should certainly be added. Also, I'm concerned about the image you just added...where was permission given for this image to be used? Merely saying that someone gave permission is not good enough...evidence must be provided, such as the person sending an email to Commons implicitly giving permission for a photo or group of photos to be made available under a free license. See http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Email_templates for what the photo owner can send. — Huntster (t • @ • c) 01:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem i have sent an email to the owner of the photos and asked her to send in the release form.. although i uploaded this photo in 2006.. --Ltshears (talk) 18:45, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colors 

message: Okay, so all talk, but no one did it. I'm a schnauzer fancier myself, but I don't care what color they are. I just like them.  So the Schnauzer and I sat at the desk and merged the two articles, as had been suggested on the "projects to do" page.  I'm going to mark the old White Schnauzer article for speedy deletion.  Someone else who knows dogs will have to provide citations.--Auntieruth55 (talk) 21:13, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Merged articles can't be deleted, as doing so would destroy the authorship information in the history. I've converted the other article to a redirect instead. Zetawoof(ζ) 22:41, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: ah, okay.  thanks for leting me know.  --Auntieruth55 (talk) 00:43, 30 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Thanks for the article work, Auntieruth. Been meaning to do this for ages, but kept getting sidetracked. Hopefully your Schnauzer was able to lend some "inside" help ;) — Huntster (t • @ • c) 23:28, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: he can be quite bossy, and the papillon had to help some as well.  Hope the merge works, and the controversy goes away.  Eventually someone with authority will take down the other.--Auntieruth55 (talk) 00:43, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger accomplished. Citations Needed 

message: This article still needs citations from reliable sources.  --Auntieruth55 (talk) 14:12, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations

message: Please stop.  Yes, the puppy picture is not as "quality" as the other, but they are now BOTH in the main article.  I removed some of the multiple salt and peppers from the gallery.  How many do we need. Yes, I know they are all adorable.  Enough is enough.  If you really want to contribute to the article, find some citations that are needed to back up the assertions.Auntieruth55 (talk) 19:45, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture Wars 

message: I have heard that this breed can experience dental issues, due to being a smaller breed. I don't have any citations, but I felt it was worth mentioning, in case someone had a source and wanted to include it in this article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.54.115.185 (talk) 17:16, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible health addition 

message: Why is everybody so against galleries?  If you never saw a Miniature Schnauzer , seeing only this article would leave you with a rather poor idea how the breed looks like. People do not go on loking on commons especially if not editing Wikipedia a lot. And no, you are not illustrating all varieties of colours. The use of a gallery section may be appropriate in some Wikipedia articles if a collection of images can illustrate aspects of a subject that cannot be easily or adequately described by text or individual images. The images in the gallery collectively must have encyclopedic value and add to the reader's understanding of the subject.   Just as we seek to ensure that the prose of an article is clear, precise and engaging, galleries should be similarly well-crafted. See 1750–75 in Western fashion for an example of a good use of galleries. This part is from image use policy, about galleries. Hafspajen (talk) 09:20, 14 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed gallery 

message: My experience with Miniature Schnauzers is that the life span is frequently longer than the 12-14 years given in the summary box.  I propose the "Life Span" in the summary box be changed to 12-16 years.  If there are no objections I will change it in a week. 
For example the UK dog survey mentioned in the article found about 20% of schnauzers lived past 15 years.  (http://www.thekennelclub.org.uk/media/16618/miniature%20schnauzer.pdf)
12-16 years also seems to be more in line with comments by breeders, for example http://www.ilovemyminischnauzer.com/health-contract-and-more-about-breed-health.html and http://www.petsonline.com.au/miniatureschnauzerpuppiesforsale.asp.
The existing 12-14 life expectation in the article is referenced to the HillsPet.com site. HillsPets do not state their source of this range. Aussiejohn (talk) 04:15, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: While most kennel clubs do not provide lifespan information, UK Kennel Club simply says more than 10 years, while the New Zealand Kennel Club specifically states 12-14 years. None of your sources provide any kind of reliable data, rather indicating breed outliers rather than averages. — Huntster (t @ c) 05:15, 28 January 2015 (UTC)

text: The figure also showed a similarly significant number that died before 8 or 9 years old. Life span is supposed to reflect an average, whether stated as a single figure or a range. When only half the dogs live to 12 or more and only 1 in 5 live to 15 or more, you can't claim an average of 12-16. Even 12-14 is inflated. If you want to present it as a range, 8-15 or 8-16 would be more accurate.--Dodo bird (talk) 07:37, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. But we cannot use original research, so we use the figures from profession sites, as has already been done. — Huntster (t @ c) 07:49, 28 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change Life Span from 12-14 to 12-16 years 

message: Substituted at 00:08, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment