Talk:Neisseria meningitidis

message: It would better to have Meningococcal disease (Meningococcal meningitis which redirects to same) and Meningococcemia all redirect here. This article links as required to meningitis and septicemia (otherwise much of same info discussed on this bacteria page, overall men. disease page, men. septicaemia, men. menigitis, septicaemia & menigitis pages....phew). David Ruben  Talk  01:26, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: strains, vaccination etc. 

message: My proposal is on same basis as for Meningococcal disease (foir which Meningococcal meningitis  redirects to it), but I'll split the proposal in case people feel that one merger has different merits from the other. David Ruben  Talk  01:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion merge [[Meningococcemia]] to Neisseria meningitidis

message: * I'd support merging the two medical condition pages (Meningococcal disease and Meningococcemia), but recommend that those conditions be kept distinct from the page on the organism (Neisseria meningitidis). --Arcadian 19:09, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, excellent points, also meningococcal disease is a far more familiar term. cyclosarin (talk) 06:17, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion merge [[Meningococcal disease]] and [[Meningococcemia]] 

message: [quote] B - is the most lethal form, comprising 40% of UK cases. The changing nature of the B group has prevented formation of a general B vaccine in the UK. However there has been developed the vaccine MeNZB against a specific strain of group B meningococcus, currently being used to control an epidemic in New Zealand. [/quote]
I learned this as not that it was the changing nature, but that the antigens are too similar to human antigens...
Thoughts? Tkjazzer 02:44, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I learned, it is a combination of the two...  the B serogroup does have polysialic acid on its LPS, which prevents some immune system components from recognizing it, but there is a high amount of variation of the surface proteins of all groups, partially due to the fact that the bacteria continuously sheds its LPS, but also due to recombination (is this the correct term?) of the genes for the production of the surface antigens. Can anyone else elaborate?   Jsmith86 (talk) 22:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  i learned this differently 

message: I just noticed that there has been an edit adding the X strain as one of the most medically important strains.  Is the cited outbreak in Nigeria the only occurance of this strain, or is it starting to occur more as people are becomming vaccinated against other strains?Jsmith86 (talk) 01:47, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Importance of the X strain? 

message: Hello to all! I am proposing a merge from the following articles into this article:
* Shwartzman phenomenon
This is for the following reasons:
* The main article would benefit from this information in one place.
* The article to be merged is short and poorly sourced and has not been edited significantly in 3-4 years. On merging will add a secondary source that supports this phenomenon.
* This knowledge shouldn't be obscured from readers of this article by virtue of being isolated in an obscure article.
* This topic may receive more attention by being mentioned in the main article.
* The article may, if needs be, could be re-expanded at a later date.
Kind Regards, LT910001 (talk) 02:21, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Guess this is a bit late but I would oppose this, the phenomenon seems to typically be "observed during delivery or abortion, when foreign bodies are introduced into the tissues of the female reproductive system." Cannolis (talk) 03:01, 6 March 2014 (UTC)

text: Alright. With no consensus over 4+ months I will remove the merge tags without performing the merge. --LT910001 (talk) 23:43, 15 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge 

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message: In the recent literature (like this) it seems there is a change in sero types naming convention .
This is based on this paper (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23628376/ ), also "Plotkin's Vaccines" 7th Ed. p620 states:
"However, what had been designated as group D was recently found to be an unencapsulated variant of group C; therefore, there are 12 known meningococcal capsular groups: A, B, C, E (formerly known as 29E), H, I, K, L, W (formerly known as W-135), X, Y, and Z. Organisms with capsular groups A, B, C, W, X, or Y are responsible for almost all cases of disease."
(accentuation by myself).
Thoughts? --Julius Senegal (talk) 21:38, 2 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated sero groups ?