Talk:The Watchtower/Archive 3

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I've removed this blurb again since the fact of the matter is already nicely stated above, and the removed text contains only conjecture.  It is not the place of an unbiased article, and is indeed as the anonymous editor pointed out "unprofessional," to point out a fairly well known fact and then claim JWs' ignorance of that fact.  This isn't something that can be proven by any existing statistic, and anecdotal evidence would certainly suggest the contrary.  As the article already rightly points out in a fair manner, the WBTS did indeed cease sale of the WT in the US largely to avoid paying taxes on the literature, which would increase the cost of production.  The funds previously collected from the WT's sale now have to be provided by donation, largely on the part of practicing JWs.  The WBTS has never made pretexts as to how the print of their literature is funded, and it is very inappropriate for a Wikipedia article to attempt to suggest the motives of any group in a manner more suited for a tabloid or editorial. -- uberpenguin 13:34, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't see that it was mentioned above, since no one said anything and I didn't look. I get what you mean. I just added a sentence in the remaining mention simply stating what people were and weren't told, I corrected the dates, and I changed a ; to a ,.Tommstein 19:17, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The phrasing now is much better, thanks! -- uberpenguin 00:34, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure thing.Tommstein 02:28, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Regarding cessation of WT sales

message: I've removed this blurb again since the fact of the matter is already nicely stated above, and the removed text contains only conjecture.  It is not the place of an unbiased article, and is indeed as the anonymous editor pointed out "unprofessional," to point out a fairly well known fact and then claim JWs' ignorance of that fact.  This isn't something that can be proven by any existing statistic, and anecdotal evidence would certainly suggest the contrary.  As the article already rightly points out in a fair manner, the WBTS did indeed cease sale of the WT in the US largely to avoid paying taxes on the literature, which would increase the cost of production.  The funds previously collected from the WT's sale now have to be provided by donation, largely on the part of practicing JWs.  The WBTS has never made pretexts as to how the print of their literature is funded, and it is very inappropriate for a Wikipedia article to attempt to suggest the motives of any group in a manner more suited for a tabloid or editorial. -- uberpenguin 13:34, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't see that it was mentioned above, since no one said anything and I didn't look. I get what you mean. I just added a sentence in the remaining mention simply stating what people were and weren't told, I corrected the dates, and I changed a ; to a ,.Tommstein 19:17, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The phrasing now is much better, thanks! -- uberpenguin 00:34, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure thing.Tommstein 02:28, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I re-added the POV and accuracy disputes because there is clear laundering of this page to include anything regarding criticism. Caroi did not remove the content contained in the section she found objectionable, she removed the entire sections! Caroi, do you believe there should even be a section that discusses criticism? Samrolken 23:35, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you believe the point of this article is? cairoi 18:52, 20 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: POV Laundering and Fact-Removal persists