Talk:Moroccan Arabic

message: Please have a look at Darija. A 2 line(s) article! It's been suggested to me merged with Darija. Cheers -- Szvest 01:07, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it is a good idea, in fact I am the one who created this entry, as it was just redirecting to Moroccan Arabic, but as the word is also used in Algeria, Tunisia and Libya I tought it would be better to mention this. In fact, I think we better add a  Disambiguation.--Khalid hassani 11:38, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Disambiguation done --Khalid hassani 12:02, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Great job Khalid. Tags are removed now. Cheers -- Szvest 09:04, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Probably it would be good to have some example phrases, like:
 Are you OK?			Labas 3lik?
 Can you please help me?			yemken lek t3awnee
 Do you Speak English				ouesh tat tkelem belinglisia
 Excuse me			smah'liyah
 Good Luck			hath' said
 Good morning			s' bah l'khir
 Good night			Tsba-alakher
 Goodbye			beslama
 Happy new year			Sana sa3eeda
 Hello			ahlan
 How are you doing?				Labas 3laik??
 How are you?			kidair (m) / kidaira? (f)
 I am fine (OK)			ana labas
 Nice to meet you				misharafin
 No thank you			la shokran
 Please			allah y'khalleek 
 Take care			t'halla f'rasak
 Thank you very much				shukran bezzef
 What do you do?			f'ash khaddam?
 What's your name?				shnu  smitik?
 Where are you from?				nta mneen?(m) /nti mneen? (f)
 You're welcome			blajmeel
deeptrivia (talk) 23:03, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Done--Khalid hassani 17:01, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Example phrases

message: Are these two different? Should the articles be merged? deeptrivia (talk) 23:10, 30 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Moroccan Arabic is a subset of Maghreb Arabic, which also comprises Algerian and Tunisian Arabics --Khalid hassani 11:31, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Maghreb Arabic]] and Moroccan Arabic 

message: As the general pronunciation of the words (not north, middle, south, or whatever). The only thing I'm not sure off is the Shadda. According to this, the phonetic value is [◌◌], but I'm not sure if it's correctly put. Sabertooth 12:39, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  IPA added 

message: Can someone help with the Arabic at Mahmoud Guinia? It's given here, but I don't know what the three dots or "v" symbol above the letters mean. Thank you, Badagnani (talk) 01:35, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need assistance 

message: Can something be added in this article about the letter gaf (گ? Badagnani (talk) 07:45, 16 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gaf 

message: I really don't think that the word "Najjar" (carpenter) is of Berber origin : it does exist in Standard Arabic ! The job is called "an-nijara".--180.160.24.166 (talk) 05:33, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nazjar vs. Najjar 

message: It would be more correct to specify that the 3 categories you have chosen for categoraztion the darija are not exclusive and that there are other regional dialects that were omitted.
I would also like to stress the fact that the western arabic category is too wide. In my city (Salé) and in Rabat the dialect is much closer to Tetouani/Jebli category than the Western one, so it's not only a matter of geography. Check our article (Arabe Salétin) for further details.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anass Sedrati (talk • contribs) 13:48, 18 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catagories of Darija/ Western Arabic 

message: Speakers of Darija will know that the Berber influence is marginal except in Jebli and perhaps Jijel Arabic (the latter one I have never heard). Jebli is pre-bedouin and is influenced by the original arabic spoken by the only berbers to be arabized in the region prior to the mass arrival of the banu hilal and possibly Andalusi Arabic. There is an influence in terms of pronounciation and manner of speech and expressions directly translated from berber but linguistically it is largely based on Hilali Arabic, who come from somewhere in the Hijaaz I believe. Because the pronounciation is difficult to understand by eastern arabs (except perhaps those who have had some contact with it and have a rich understanding of classical arabic), there is a myth that it is largely based on Berber and this should be dispelled in this article. There is also a political undertone and element of xenophobia to this belief. There are very few berber words in the large majority of Maghrebi dialects and it is firmly rooted in Bedouin Arabic. Strangely Mauritanians and Libyans are believed by mashreq arabs to speak a very pure form of arabic, when they just speak another variant of Darija. French or Spanish loan words are not always used and one can speak correct Darija without barely using any and substituting most of them with either Darija or Fus7a. This is purely attributed to code switching. I think this should be made clear with the relevant sources.Asilah1981 (talk) 21:20, 26 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: On Jebli and Berber influence

message: In the vocabulary subsection "Examples of words borrowed from Spanish", there are a few unlikely IPA transcriptions:
 * playa  : playa (beach) ([plɑyɑ)
 * pasiyo : paseo (walk) ([pasiyo])
The vowels in the triphthong /ɑyɑ/ are about as far from each other as can be, and I find such a triphthong unlikely, especially in a language not known for a large vowel inventory. I'm assuming that /j/ was meant instead of /y/, and so I'll go ahead and fix that. Please go ahead and revert my edit if /ɑyɑ/ is the actual sound. Oatco (talk) 09:27, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not the actual sound. Using  for the palatal approximant is a serious mistake as far as the IPA is concerned, where  is defined as the close front rounded vowel. Sol505000 (talk) 14:02, 11 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  IPA inaccuracies 

message: , please do not move and rename an article again without proper discussion. If you wish to propose a name change, please use the formal process for discussing moves where there could be disagreements. You can find the instructions for that here. R Prazeres (talk) 02:16, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title 

message: Hello . Isn't "العربية المغربية الدارجة" more like Medlaoui's "Middle Moroccan Arabic", which is a standardization proposal that basically creates a language between spoken Moroccan Arabic and Standard Arabic? Shouldn't that have its own article or at least its own paragraph instead?-- Ideophagous (talk) 06:01, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I think he called that Middle Moroccan Arabic "لغة عربية مغربية وُسطى". There's an article on this concept generally, for a middle Arabic language between فصحى and local varieties, on WP Arabic: لهجة بيضاء and it should be on WP English too. إيان (talk) 15:44, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle Moroccan Arabic 

message: I added a Template:Original research section to the Vocabulary section because it's rife with original research. Few cite reliable sources. إيان (talk) 22:18, 17 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research in Vocabulary and examples of loanwords