Talk:Capsule endoscopy

message: I definitely disagree with consensus that the subject is of "low importance" to the field of Medicine. I may not share other users' enthusiasm for capsule endoscopy, but even I recognize how important it is to gastroenterology and imaging of the body. Just ranting. - Cyborg Ninja 06:58, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is certainly an important diagnostic tool. However importance is judged by the probability of need of an average user to look up in an encyclopaedia. Pls see project assessment page--Countincr ( t@lk ) 09:57, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Trust me, I'm already aware of that. You don't need to go into semantics, though I disagree about the "probability of need of an average user to look up in an encyclopedia." It was categorized in the Medical project, not for the average user. But anyway, like I said, it was just a rant. - Cyborg Ninja 02:51, 21 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I added a reference for it to the article. Thanks for the info. - Cyborg Ninja 15:17, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Low importance? 

message: A recent addition was made to the article about a supposed early developer of the capsule endoscope. It needed a reference, so I reverted to an earlier version. Normally, I'd add a citation tag but the editor himself made various claims about capsule endoscopy inventors and how he himself had a problem with mentions of such people without references. I thought that was odd. If there is a reference, I'd be happy to add it, but from my research there seems to be conflicts among many as to who first created it. - Cyborg Ninja 07:12, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems that someone related to Israel keeps adding their favorite inventor.There are three groups claiming to be inventors:
* Iddan et el(patent bought by Given Imaging)-an Israeli company-their claims 1,2,3 and 11 out of 17 relating to Capsule System have been rejected in 2006 after 3 years reexamination at Olympus corp. request.
* Mullick ,Dutta et el. of Baltimore,Md.USA developed this Capsule in 1989 and were granted a patent by US patent office.
* Olympus Corp. of Japan also received a patent which they filed two years after Mullick et.el
SO EITHER we do not name any one--or add everyone's name until US Courts decide in 3/4 years whose patent is key and who is the first inventor. Satinder Mullick  —Preceding unsigned comment added by SatinderMullick (talk • contribs) 16:10, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's best to name everyone. It's a risk for us to name one group as being absolutely the inventor when it's currently being disputed, because of the popularity of Wikipedia and the possibility other people will use it as their only authority when writing about capsule endoscopy. I need references, though. - Cyborg Ninja 00:44, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inventor or Developer 

message: I just spent some time re-writing parts of the article.  It could still use quite a bit of work.  In particular:
1)  Picture of GI tract showing where colo and EGD can see and where they can't
2)  Picture from a capsule endoscope
3)  Mention of double or single balloon enteroscopy
4)  mention of complications
5)  Mention of what patients need to do before swallowing the capsule and how it is retrieved.
I'll try to find some time to work on this.
Wawot1 (talk) 17:32, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ideas for improvement 

message: > There has been a report of retention of the capsule for almost 5 years. 
Does that mean "there has only been one report"?
mitch_feaster (talk) 22:05, 19 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "a report" reads weird and is ambiguous 

message: I am Eric Fossum and I am the primary inventor of the CMOS image sensor. In the second half of the 1990's, after founding Photobit Corp to commercialize the technology, we were approached by Given Imaging to help them develop the capsule endoscopy.  The ultra low power of the CMOS image sensor camera-on-a-chip allowed, for the first time, the possibility of practical capsule endoscopy. We designed a custom CMOS image sensor according to specifications worked out between Given and Photobit.  Around 2000, we went into limited production of sensors for Given, and ramped up in 2001.
There is no doubt who invented this technology - it was a couple of former guided missile engineers in Israel with a big idea for a little medical camera.  Their capsule endoscopy received much press, including being featured on the national nightly news (ABC, I think). If one compares the priority dates of the patents in question, the Iddan patent was first filed in early 1994. The other patents were filed much later. There is not much of a public paper trail other than USPTO applications due to the confidential nature of high tech development. But I am happy to swear to this story in open court.
There is a lot of money at stake with this technology, and jury trials are more or less random in outcome when it comes to technology, and USPTO subsequent rejection of claims can stem from a number of reasons, some are just legal procedural issues, not inventive issues. Credit should be given, at least, to Iddan and Given Imaging for first inventing and then first bringing this technology to market including FDA and insurance reimbursement approval.  Not giving them credit because of Wiki trolls is just morally wrong.  Other subsequent inventions and improvements are also certainly worth noting.
-ERF, 2011 Inductee, National Inventors Hall of Fame  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.175.195.210 (talk) 16:48, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: For better or for worse, Wikipedia reports what independent reliable sources say about a subject. Unfortunately, your comments here are not helpful in that regard as they are not verifiable. - SummerPhD (talk) 17:57, 15 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The priority dates in the USPTO database ought to be considered reliable and the 3 inventions, sorted by Priority Date could be listed in the article. The rest of the commentary can stay here on the talk page. Iddan et al patent priority date is Jan 17 1994 (US US 5,604,531 A) Mullick et al patent priority date is Feb 8, 2000 - six years later (US 7,039,453) and then Mizuno patent priority date is June 20, 2001.  A description of the Given Imaging (Iddan et al inventor)technology was published in IEEE Spectrum, July 2000, page 75, "A Candid Camera for the Gut" by S.K. Moore. Personally, I would not even include the other two later patents since they were years later! -ERF  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.175.195.210 (talk) 17:32, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The USPTO is a primary source. Unless the information is discussed in independent reliable sources, Wikipedia generally does not include the information. Adding this would be similar to adding to a biography that the person wears corrective lenses based on drivers license info; it might be true, but it is not encyclopedic. If independent reliable sources stated that the technology was given by E.T. to Tesla, that's what we would report. If independent reliable sources don't discuss who invented liquid soap (and why), neither do we. - SummerPhD (talk) 19:46, 17 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  First hand testimony 

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