Talk:Census in Australia

message: I made the Australian Census Template :Template:Australian Census Broad Groups to show how the Australian Census Bureau classifies people, because it improves the content of the article and demographic data related to Australia.  This template shows the official racial/ethnic classifications used in Australia.  This information not only improves the content of the Ausralian Census article but would be useful on other pages relating to Australia's demographics.  Information provided by the Australian Census would be useful in the Demographics of Australia article.  Currently in August 20 2006, the ethnic groups section classifies people into "Caucasian", "Asian" and "Indigenous", but these are from the United-States-centric The World Factbook.  The CIA World Factbook classifies Australians according to their parameters for ethnicity which is not recognized by the Australian Census.  I think this ethnicity section should used the ethnic classifications made by the Australian Census.--Dark Tichondrias 11:15, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: no report of Australian enthnicity would have "Oceanian" despite the ABS ref--Arktos talk 11:30, 20 August 2006 (UTC)

text: There are 14 links in that template, none of which are particularly useful for understanding the census nor any other ABS publications. The census questions were not represented in this way, and it is unlikely that the results will be, either. The only thing that someone could even hope to derive from classifying people at that broad level is some indication of largescale migration and cultural integration. I support removing the template. --Scott Davis Talk 23:01, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Australian Census Template

message: ::The Australian Standard Classification of Cultural and Ethnic Groups is indeed part of the Australian Census Bureau.  The organization's URL is part of the Australian Census Bureau (ABS) because the first part of its URL is "www.ausstats.abs.gov.au".--Dark Tichondrias 21:12, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *There is no "Australian census bureau - there is an Australian Bureau of Statistics - misnaming organisations is inaccurate and casts doubt on the accuracy of anything else you have written.--Arktos talk 23:50, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That URL is for the Australian Bureau of Statistics. There is no "Australian Census Bureau". --Scott Davis Talk 23:23, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Australian Census Bureau" 

message: :::The exact question is (I still have the paper form as we filled it in online):
::::18 What is the person's ancestry?
::::*Provide up to two ancestries only.
::::*Examples of 'Other - please specify' are: GREEK, VIETNAMESE, HMONG, DUTCH, KURDISH, MAORI, LEBANESE, AUSTRALIAN SOUTH SEA ISLANDER.
::::*See page 7 of the Census Guide for more information.
::::*Remember to mark boxes like this: —
:::The choices are:
::::*English
::::*Irish
::::*Italian
::::*German
::::*Chinese
::::*Scottish
::::*Australian
::::*Other - please specify
:::--Scott Davis Talk 23:23, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exact questions on census 

message: Template: has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. Arktos talk 23:18, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TfD nomination of Template:{{ucfirst:Australian Census Broad Groups}} 

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message: Jedi census phenomenon, this should surely be included somewhere?  it is notable and referenced in it's own page.  Not sure where it should go.  Someone please help.--TinTin (talk) 06:00, 16 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Jedi census phenomenon

message: I took out the following:
Nevertheless 2.2 per cent of households viewed as being inhabited did no submit a census form.  This resulted in 250 attempts to prosecute. It is not clear whether any prosecutions could be successful given that any person could claim they were not present on census night
:The vast majority of these are for households which are simply away on holidays on Census day,  and therefore they don't get counted.  If they are on holidays in Australia, they should be counted where they are on that day.  If they are overseas, they don't get counted at all.Eregli bob (talk) 12:26, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Closest source I've found after a quick look on the ABS website suggests that there were 305 Notices of Direction (which if not complied with lead to fines) issued after the 2006 Census. Can't find a stat for the number of "attempts to prosecute". As for the percentage of hhs that didn't submit a Census form, the closest thing I can find is that 2.9% of dwellings were "missed" by the Census, according to the PES/undercount publication, although there's also a figure in that publication that says 2.2% of persons in the 2001 Census were "imputed", i.e. had Census figures predicted based on other data. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 00:45, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, the "not clear whether any prosecutions could be successful..." bit is clearly OR - even if everybody could offer that excuse, not everybody does. 2.9% of dwellings seems reasonably consistent with 2.2% of persons, since the smaller households are easier to miss. --GenericBob (talk) 09:47, 23 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed paragraph 

message: Why was it switched to 5 years?--Jack Upland (talk) 11:55, 1 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  5 Years 

message: Removed this uncited line from the page: The 2016 online census also featured an award winning question: "Does any member of this household access the internet from this dwelling?".  There are no awards for census questions, and no citation was provided. 49.195.84.216 (talk) 11:46, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a paper form (which would have identical questions) and Q59 does indeed ask "Does any member of this household access the internet from this dwelling?" (Then goes on to explain inc phones etc...) Whether it gets an award or not we'll have to wait and see. JennyOz (talk) 12:29, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's a fair question, even online, because you could fill in the form online somewhere other than your own house, eg your workplace, or the local library. (I do agree with the removal of that line from the article though.) Mitch Ames (talk) 12:34, 9 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Award winning question 

message: The Census has finished its time has passed Its called CENSUS DAY and A DAY is prescribed for it!
If you could not log on (Thats their fault), then theres no way they will even try to prosecute you! As it would fail!
This means if the "census people" whos authority ended at the end of the census try to ask you to do the census they have no authority to do that.--A12bc34be5 (talk) 02:16, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: That's incredibly wrong. While the Census and Statistics Act gives provision for the Statistician to declare a particular day Census Day, it doesn't actually restrict any kind of data collection or direction to complete forms to that day. In fact, section 10 basically says that the Statistician can prepare forms and request data as necessary. The main thing that Census day is useful for is to identify the reference point - so it doesn't matter what day you fill the form in, as long as you fill it in on the basis of what is/was true for the household on Census day. In fact, the only reference in the legislation to Census day other than saying that it exists is section 19A which defines the 99 year period in which inappropriate disclosure of data is disallowed is counted from Census day. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 06:23, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Census Has legally ended! midnight 9  August! 

message: Yes it was but it was a total failure, with minimal data. That should be mentioned!--A12bc34be5 (talk) 02:23, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The problems have been detailed at length in the article. However, there is nothing supporting the claim that it was a total failure. That's something that cannot be determined at this time, as the census submissions are still being completed. --AussieLegend (✉) 03:02, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The most recent was held on 9 August 2016! 

message: Since I was reverted by User:Captain Infinity, I figured I'd discuss the matter. The sentence in question is "However the ABS makes confidentialised/confidential census data available to researchers, who must make various legal commitments before being given access." Captain Infinity has edited in favour of "confidential", while I'm in favour of "confidentialised", because: (1) it's the word used by the ABS to refer to the product (the product is specifically called a CURF, or confidentialised unit record file, as per ), (2) "confidential data" implies that the data itself is secret and not to be released, while "confidentialised data", while perhaps not a dictionary word, is shorthand for data that has been modified to protect the confidentiality of the respondents (i.e. Statistical disclosure control). If I'm overruled then I'm happy to go with consensus, but if "confidentialised" is shot down then I'd rather see something other than "confidential" given its almost completely opposite meaning in the context. Confusing Manifestation(Say hi!) 07:12, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: That somebody in the ABS has decided to make up a word doesn't mean that Wikipedia has to use it. To "confidentialise" something is to "make it confidential". --AussieLegend (✉) 09:52, 12 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confidentialised 

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