Talk:Don Juan (poem)

message: Parts of this article, in particular the "History", "Sources" and "The name and motif" seem to be copied verbatim from  the introduction to the poem in this: http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/18762. What is Wikipedia policy? Obviously, Gutenberg works are public domain but they paragraphs are copied wholesale? What is the best thing to do?
James Robson 19:39, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no policy that I can think of on this (remembering that I don't know them all, just the important ones). Since it is sourced at the bottom, as a courtesy, I think it is fine as it is. —Sean Whitton / 19:55, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, thanks. Wasn't sure. Does it need wikifying or whatever? At the moment that lump o' text doesn't look very encyclopaedic, and the beginning of "The name and motif" is a bit dodgy.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by James Robson (talk • contribs) 19:59, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The whole point of PD text is that it can be repurposed without reservation (but should, properly, be cited, as this article was - "Much of this article is based on an essay in The Works of Lord Byron, Volume 6, by Ernest Hartley Coleridge."). If you are able to wikify the text more than it is, please be my guest. As it is, I suspect you'll find, if you make the attempt, that most of it bears all the links it is sensible to bear. --Tagishsimon (talk) 14:14, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright issues 

message: A good start to the article.  Should be a B but the lack of refs drags the standard down.  The "Name and Motif" section is blatantly copied from another website and much copyediting is needed to fix this.  The trivia section needs to go or be merged with other parts of the article.  Mid priority due to being a recognisable poem by a famous writer.  WEBURIEDOURSECRETSINTHEGARDEN 16:45, 25 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment - Start class/mid priority 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Byrondonjuan.jpg

message: Please consider adding an external link to an image of the original autograph manuscript, which is in The Morgan library & Museum's collection:
http://www.themorgan.org/collections/collections.asp?id=142
Morganlibrary (talk) 12:30, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup. I saw user:Closedmouth reverted that addition - I'm not sure why. I'll ask him/her. --Tagishsimon (talk) 12:40, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And pending an answer, I've reinstated the link. --Tagishsimon (talk) 00:45, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link to image of autograph manuscript 

message: There was a debate hidden in the text that should be here: 
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If anyone has any evidence that Juan rhymed with true one outside Byron, we should of course correct the article. kwami (talk) 06:39, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  pronunciation 

message: How is it that such a long article can possibly arise out of two references?:) I am going to change the assessment to C class, but if this information were properly sourced, the article could achieve much more.Mrathel (talk) 21:46, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: I question the use of the term 'bathos' which is defined as ‘A lapse into the ridiculous by a poet aiming at elevated expression.  Whereas anticlimax can be a deliberate poetic effect, bathos is an unintended failure.'(1) Surely Byron uses anticlimax deliberately for comic effect?94.30.95.21 (talk) 09:42, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of critical term - bathos vs anticlimax 

message: The dedication to Robert Southey (then Poet Laureate) has 14 stanzas, also ottava rima - shouldn't it get the first section in the synopsis? There's a lot of material there of interest both literary and historical/political. Or at least a mention up top?
Ken M Quirici 12:51, 4 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Dedication 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Some editions include a poem that Byron scribbled on the manuscript, in the same ottava rima form:
I would to heaven that I were so much clay,
As I am blood, bone, marrow, passion, feeling -
Because at least the past were passed away -
And for the future - (but I write this reeling,
Having got drunk exceedingly today,
So that I seem to stand upon the ceiling)
I say - the future is a serious matter -
And so - for God's sake - hock and soda water!
I can't see how to include this in the article, although I think it should be there.
Larry Koenigsberg (talk) 05:56, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "hock and soda water" 

message: This article fails to use quotation marks when quoting. One source is named under "References".  Rwood128 (talk) 18:00, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I have indicated some quotations and added citations. This is a work in progress and needs additions and revisions. Rwood128 (talk) 20:23, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Equally significant is that the one source that is over-used is over 100 years old! Rwood128 (talk) 21:33, 20 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plagiarism? 

message: This word is not appropriate for the period; 'footpad' might be better. American slang is not yet universal. 2001:44B8:3102:BB00:65BF:7DE1:C67C:7AE2 (talk) 20:21, 25 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mugger