Talk:Hawaii/Archive 6

message: The simplest way to keep up with new articles and changes to Hawai‘i-related articles is to bookmark Recent changes.  This link is also listed on the "Open tasks for Wikipedia:WikiProject Hawai‘i". --Viriditas  | Talk 00:13, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Hawaii recent changes

message: It has recently been "discovered" that the humuhumunukunukuapua'a is not the State fish of Hawai'i. The law enacting the legislation had an expiration date and that date has long passed, so it certainly was the official State fish for five years, but no replacement (or re-enabling legislation) has been selected  - Marshman 20:36, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A state senator had it re-instated in June, I believe, even tho it's not unique to Hawai'i.  --Makua 02:22, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: State fish

message: I'm not aware of any Hawaiian Wikipedians notice board, so I'm using this page to make contact with Hawaiian Wikipedians.
I've put down some thoughts about a proposed portal at Portal talk:Oceania. Please come and comment.-gadfium 07:31, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Portal:Oceania

message: I would say that most of these are unhelpful, particularly the one with all the state officials. Shouldnt' that be on Government of Hawaii or something? (Really, the Mayor of Maui?) Is the article enhanced by having satellite images of eight major islands? Shouldn't the historical kings be at Kingdom of Hawaiʻi? It's distracting, slows down the page, and takes visual space away from what could be informative expansion. I don't object to a few pictures, but this is over the top. Almost all of that content is more appropriate someplace else. --Dhartung | Talk 18:13, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, some of these galleries really should be removed or moved someplace else. 青い(Aoi) 23:44, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Too many random galleries

message: Sandwich Islands is just an old name of Hawaii, and I propose the article to be merged here. // Habj 00:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Until such time as there is a substantial article written on the Sandwich Islands, this seems to be a reasonable proposal.  --71.36.251.182 17:26, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Merge but be sure that the Hawaii article includes fair mention of its "former" English name. CPAScott 19:31, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merging [[Sandwich Islands]] here?

message: The policy states:
; 1. Articles should contain only material that has been published by reputable sources.
; 2. Editors adding new material to an article should cite a reputable source, or it may be removed by any editor.
; 3. The obligation to provide a reputable source lies with the editors wishing to include the material, not on those seeking to remove it.
In accordance with this official Wikipedia policy, I will begin trimming away some of the material in the Hawaii article, where supporting citations are lacking. Anyone who wants to add deleted material back is obligated to provide references AND citations (with page numbers) to those references. References alone are not enough. Inline citations are required.
Agent X 23:52, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent idea, I am the one who tagged the article. See Minnesota for some ideas and sources. -Ravedave 03:24, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikipedia policy and justification for deleting content

message: Please give feedback on whether I am correct in this.  Under the Ethnicity section in the Demographics part of the article, as currently written, it reads "...Hawaii is the only state that has a majority group that is non-white..."  If one then looks at the statistics, however, there is no majority group.  The largest group listed is Asian-Americans, at 41.6 percent.  This is a plurality (largest group of all listed) but not a majority (greater than 50%).  My only thought is that when talking about a majority group, the author viewed population as split into only 2 groups - white and not-white, which seems a little simplistic.  Any thoughts on rewriting this to state that "Hawaii is the only state which does not have a white majority", which would be more consistent with the data given?
: Hawaii is 58.13% asian, according to the 2005 Census population figures. All other states have a white majority. ClairSamoht - Help make Wikipedia the most authoritative source of information in the world 22:53, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Demographics: Ethnicity

message: Hi, I have deleted the map from Hawaii showing the islands related to the continental States because the islands are simply not there were they appear in that map (its actual position is quite more west-northwest than the one showed there). Unfortunatelly I am not trained to download maps and things like that and I can't replace it with a correct one. I hope someone who knows makes it soon. Thanks. Mountolive 05:20, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Map Deleted

message: Hawaii is listed at Ethnic autonomous regions. Comment on the accuracy of that designation seems appropriate: please comment at that article's talk page.Paul111 12:33, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hawaii an "ethnic autonomous region"? 

message: In the article, the latitude range that Hawaii falls in is given as 18°55'N to 29°N. However, the article also states that Hawaii is the only state that: (1) lies completely in the tropics. This is a contradiction since the tropics don't extend beyond 23°26'. Google Earth seems to show that Hawaii does indeed lie completely within the tropics, in which case the stated latitude range must be wrong. Could someone verify and update the article with the correct latitude range? ----Chipmunk 06:35, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not an expert in geography but it appears the article includes the Northwestern Hawaiian Islands, which technically is part of the State of Hawaii. According to Kure Atoll's article (Kure Atoll is the northernmost island in the Northwestern Hawaiian Island chain), the atoll lies at latitude 28°25′N. A quick look in an atlas confirms this. The latitude range in the Hawaii article is true and the claim that Hawaii lies completely in the tropics is false; I'm removing this claim. Thank you for finding this factual error, Chipmunk. 青い(Aoi) 07:38, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latitude of Hawaii 

message: Someone -- looks like it was an anonIP -- replaced the whole overthrow section with a much longer one that is pure Hawaiian sovereignty rant. I restored the version that was there about three weeks ago. 
WP is not a soapbox! The older version indicates that there are various POVs about the overthrow. We have to give all POVs, not just one. 
I suppose I need to check the main article on the same topic; it's probably been trashed too. Zora 03:47, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice catch Zora.  I reverted User:66.133.253.117's POV push on Overthrow of the Hawaiian Monarchy, but missed reverting it on October 29 on the Hawaii page - well, I reverted it once, but I missed their second blows from 21:13-21:17.  --JereKrischel 09:38, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overthrow of Hawaiian monarchy