Talk:Cutthroat trout

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message: In preparing the article for a Good Article nomination, I've removed this content (while incorporating relevant aspects in other text).  Since the article is not about the Beaver, this content, although well sourced is more relevant to the Beaver article, especially the second half.
--Mike Cline (talk) 16:22, 25 December 2013 (UTC)
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message: Is there a map of its range in Canada? Brutannica (talk) 21:57, 15 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed there are plenty of maps showing cutthroat trout ranges in Canada, but none that have been made available in the public domain or creative commons that I can locate. --Mike Cline (talk) 12:10, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
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message: Is the species clarki or clarkii? ITIS says under Oncorhynchus clarki "invalid - unavailable, literature misspelling". Richardson also seems to use clarkii. Lesgles (talk) 00:53, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess it depends on the source since the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service uses one "i"......like here. So long as this article has consistency in whether it uses one or two "i", unless we can find an absolutely authoritative source to reference.--MONGO 01:11, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I guess my preference would be for the original namer's spelling, but I don't know much about the rules of fish taxonomy. Perhaps someone will come along with an absolutely authoritative source. Or if the two spellings are equally acceptable, it might be good to note it at some point in the article. Lesgles (talk) 15:30, 29 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we need to ask  on this, as he did the bulk of the work and has the source material.  The article is pretty consistent as far as I can see in using "clarki", but several of the sources say "clarkii."  I think it's Mike's call.  Montanabw(talk) 00:24, 30 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Several places list "clarki" as invalid/misspelled, same for the subspecies spellings which use "clarki". I don't know when it arose, but the misspelling somehow persisted in circles with this fish. The nomenclatural epithet "clarkii" is from what I understand, for the naturalist John Henry Clark, and William Clark. Esoxidtalk•contribs 21:17, 12 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:    Sorry to drag this back up but ref 3 has Clarkii while ref 4 has Clarki, both from the same source. Jodosma (talk) 15:12, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It's fixed now. Jodosma (talk) 08:49, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarkii/Clarki 

message: Per WP:BRD, an editor is attempting to make changes to this article without discussion citing changes to other WP articles, saying the information is more recent.   The changes are not of featured article quality but there may possibly be updated information that should be considered.  Pinging the lead editors and reviewers of this article   to review the material, the sources and per WP:BURDEN , asking that the editor  adding this material explain why it needs to be added, with the caveat that one wikipedia article is not a source for another, we need the source material.  Montanabw(talk) 02:11, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure...I'll  look it over but probably not in detail for a day or two....Mike is the trout-master though....me thinks he might be part fishman.--MONGO 19:47, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I hope I have given the references clearly, which is my burden. I have not understood that there would be different principles of editing featured vs. other articles, or any ranking among editors. Mentioning other articles in edit summary was meant to referring to the published sources given in those articles, sorry if that was unclear. - Olaff (talk) 16:00, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Best not to go around changing reference names, it can really mess up the footnoting. If I were you, I'd explain what you are doing and let the other editors respond before you do it.  Featured Articles have already gone through an extensive review process and while any article can be improved, featured article improvements should be discussed - some things are the way they are for a reason.  Montanabw(talk) 11:14, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I see I have not changed reference names, but rather given name tags to unnamed references that are used repeatedly, and added information (from those references) that clarify the current understanding of distribution ranges and changing views on taxonomy; that seems appropriate? Now (again) I suggest to make these changes to the version you obviously have accepted. The grounds for them are the information in the given published references, which is the practice here. Please tell if there is a reason not to include that modern information; I would understand that is your burden. Particularly, please check if the opening sentence of the Subspecies chapter is accurate (is this the proper source for the number 14?). Olaff (talk) 18:50, 18 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The case was introduced for discussion 5.5 months ago, and no comments on the actual contents or the wording have been presented (whereas three wholesale reverts occurred meanwhile). So the changes might be considered uncontroversial now. Olaff (talk) 21:41, 27 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes? 

message: The Schullery refs do not link directly to Nature and Culture at Fishing Bridge but to the Yellowstone National Park home page and some searching is required by the reader to get to Nature and Culture at Fishing Bridge, by first of all clicking on History and Culture on the home page then searching the new page for Nature and Culture at Fishing Bridge which is listed under the heading Publications About Yellowstone History. Only then does the reader reach the cited source. My edits directed the reader straight to Nature and Culture at Fishing Bridge without having to do any more searching. The other edits I made were simply to combine identical repeated refs to avoid their unnecessary repetition. And finally to remove the small formatting from the Guptil quote which I feel is unnecessary and looks much better full size. I sincerely hope I didn't upset anyone because I want to suggest some more changes. Jodosma (talk) 09:54, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'll let  weigh in, he was lead editor on this article, I just did some FAC reviewing.  If he's OK with it, I'm OK with it.  But the point is that this a featured article, so all substantive changes have to keep the article FAC quality.  Montanabw(talk) 23:58, 28 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  I noticed that ref 77 no longer leads to the Schullery quote. Not good. Jodosma (talk) 21:02, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: So someone should probably run it through Wayback and get the archive link. I'm a bit busy but if it is something others don't know how to do, let me know. Montanabw(talk) 21:32, 8 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Jodosma (talk) 09:58, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit reverts by Montanabw 

message: I suppose ,  and  may be the most interested but I welcome anyone's views. I "borrowed" Cutthroat trout and made a subpage so I could make some changes.  I've used harv style referencing on a lot of the refs so they are all linked to the relevant sources in a new Sources section. It can be seen at User:Jodosma/Cutthroat trout.
I realise this is a featured article and haven't altered any of the content, although I have removed the small formatting from the Guptill ref. I also realise that Mike Cline is not keen on the sfn/harv style but hope he will reconsider.  Many featured articles use this style; it avoids a lot of repetition. Please have a look and let me know what you think. Jodosma (talk) 13:18, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not a huge fan of the Harvard referencing style. It uses less space in the editing window and has a somewhat tidy appearance, but this article hasn't been featured that long comparatively to many others so I do not see any reason to switch what passed FAC not too long ago.--MONGO 09:44, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no rule on preferring one citation style over another; what I can say is that citation style needs to be consistent, and here, in the case of a featured article, should NOT be changed without consensus.  Montanabw(talk) 20:13, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
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message: Is that photo for Cutthroat trout (see below) the same painting (photo thing) that I saw in The Scouting Guid to Basic Fishing by Wade Bourne? The photos look (to my human eye) the exact same thing. If they indeed are, I am genuinely concerned, for in the copyright of the book The Scouting Guid to Basic Fishing, it says quote "All rights reserved. No part of this book may be reproduced without the express written consent of the publisher, except in the case of brief excerpts in critical reviews or articles." I looked, and found no context allowing usage. Cheers,User:Shadowblade08 (talk) 01:53, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
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