Talk:Ireland at the Olympics

message: Ignoring the "(23)" bit in the heading, why is there an asterisk next to Michelle Smith for all four of her medals? There's no reference for it anywhere in the article. DitzyNizzy (aka Jess) (talk) 19:41, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medallists (23) 

message: Some Olympic Bulletins relating to the name and coverage of the OCI:
;No.1 p.12 (1926: addresses of members): 
:Irlande . . . . . . . . J. J. Keane, 68, Upper O’Connell street, Dublin
;No.26 June 1934
:Irlande . . . . . . . . . . . . J. J. Keane, (1922), 68, Upper O’Connell street, Dublin.
;No. 27 December 1934
:Etat libre d’Irlande J. J. Keane, (1922), 68, Upper O’Connell street, Dublin.
;No. 31 p.13 (1936)
:DIFFICULTIES WITH THE IRISH OLYMPIC COMMITTEE After having heard an explanation of this question from the President, the Members present were of the opinion that the participation of Irish rowers would be allowed, if the International Federation did not object to the signature of the National Olympic Committee being remplaced by that of Mr. Keane, member for the Irish Free State.
;No.35 July 1937:
:Etat libre d’Irlande J. J. Keane, (1922), 68, Upper O’Connell street, Dublin
;No. 36 (Jan 1938) p.2: 
:Eire. . . . . . . . J. J. Keane, 68, Upper O’Connell street, Dublin
::(new Constitution came into effect 29-12-1937)
;No. 11 p.34 (1948)
:Affaire cycliste irlandaise. 
:M. Southscott (cyclisme) aimerait connaître la ligne de conduite à suivre concernant la situation du cyclisme en Irlande.
:M. Brundage (C. I. O.) expose le problème de l’Irlande et de l’Eire dans ses détails. En 1923, la question politique fut résolue, en ce sens que le Nord fut dépendant de la Grande-Bretagne, et le Sud est devenu indépendant. En 1932, à Los-Angelès, l’Eire demanda d’englober tous les athlètes du territoire de l’Irlande. M. Brundage rappelle que la situation des différents sports n’est pas la même suivant les arrangements existants entre les dirigeants de l’Eire et de la Grande-Bretagne. Pour ce qui concerne le cyclisme, la Fédération de l’Eire n’est pas affiliée à la F. I. correspondante, par conséquent. son inscription ne peut pas être prise en considération. 
:Lord Burghley (athlétisme) intervient pour dire qu’il existe dans l’Eire une fédération qui est suspendue par l’I. A. A. F. La Grande-Bretagne, dit-il, considère les sujets de l’Eire comme sujets britanniques, tandis que ceux-ci se considèrent avant tout comme sujets de l’Eire. 
:Lord Aberdare (C. I. O.) admet que la situation est très compliquée, mais qu’une loi est en préparation qui fera que les citoyens de l’Eire seront d’abord des sujets de cet état, et ensuite, s’ils le désirent, pourront être citoyens britanniques. Le délégué du cyclisme déclare que dans un but d’intérêt sportif, sa fédération s’est montrée assez large d’esprit. La situation est toutefois irrégulière, et il faut une bonne fois y mettre fin. Les négociations sont en cours. 
:Le Col. Russell (boxe) explique que la situation de son sport en Irlande englobe l’ensemble de ce pays (Eire et Irlande du Nord). Sa fédération n’éprouve aucune difficulté de cette situation.
;No.15 p.28 (1949):
:After that the State of EIRE has become independant, the .O.C., at its session of Rom[e], has decided that athletes of North Ireland should be affiliated to the national federations of Great Britain, while those of South Ireland have to be affiliated to the national federations of EIRE.
::Obviously a poor translation of the original French text.
;No.27 p.12 (1951: minutes of the 45th session in Vienna):
:Requête de l’Eire. Lord Burghley fait rapport au sujet de l’appellation qui conviendrait à ce pays. Ensuite des renseignements pris auprès du Foreign Office de Londres, il n’y a que deux appellations possibles: Eire ou République d’Irlande. Il est décidé de dénommer ce pays à l’avenir sous le nom de « République d’Irlande », ce qui donnera du reste satisfaction au Comité olympique de ce pays.
::[my approximate translation; the English bulletin isn't in the la84foundation archives]: Request of Eire: Lord Burghley made a presentation on what name will suit this country. According to information received from the Foreign Office in London, there are only two possible names: Eire or Republic of Ireland. It was decided to refer to this country in future as "Republic of Ireland", which will be acceptable to the Olympic Committee of the country.
;No. 32 p.10-11 (1952: minutes of the 46th session in Oslo):
:Ireland.—The request of the Irish I. O. C. to the effect that the country should in the future be called « Ireland » is turned down and the country’s appellation will remain as it has been hitherto: «Republic of Ireland».
;No.52 November 1955:
:National Olympic Committees : Afghanistan, South-Africa, Germany, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Bulgaria, Canada, China (Peking), Korea, Cuba, Egypt, Spain, United States, Ethiopia, Finland, France, Great-Britain, Greece, Holland, Hungary, Iran, Irish Republic (Eire). Iceland. Israel. Italy, Japan, Lebanon, Luxemburg, Malay, Mexico, Monaco. Norway, Philippines, Poland, Portugal, Rumania, Saar, Sweden, Switzerland, Czechoslovakia, Siam, Turkey, U. S. S. R., Venezuela, Viet-Nam, Yugoslavia.
::Again, obviously translated from the French. My emphasis.
:République d’Irlande : Olympic Council of Ireland, c/o Chief Supt. P. Carroll. B. L., The National Stadium, South Circular Rd., Dublin.
;No.53 February 1956:
:Irlande, : Olympic Council of Ireland, c/o Chief Supt. P. Carroll. B. L., The National Stadium, South Circular Rd., Dublin.
It's perhaps significant that the 1951–2 meetings were at a time when JJ Keane had left the IOC and Lord Killalin had not yet joined. jnestorius(talk) 17:53, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  More on the name 

message: I have reverted this edit. The summary "making it less political about the name and just stating facts. this page should be about the team, not jurisdictions" is misguided. I'm not sure what "just about the team" means; is it suggested to restrict the scope to sports statistics? If so, that is clearly inappropriate. Wikipedia is not a sports almanac; the question of political jurisdiction was a significant one in the history of the Irish Olympic team, and this article is the right place to explain that. In 1924–32, the "Ireland" team did not view itself as an "Irish Free State" team; and the IOC adopted an agnostic stance for as long as it could, before ultimately deciding otherwise. Other non-independent states have competed (e.g. British India, Puerto Rico) and mixed-nation teams United German Team, United Team) so the putative all-island Ireland team of 1924-8-32 would not be a solitary anomaly. jnestorius(talk) 16:59, 16 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Ireland has been represented as an independent state" 

message: Okay, to keep this brief, the table messed up. Being a good citizen, I fixed it to the best of my ability but the Olympics is not one of my strong points. For one of you Olympic-WikiProject members, feel free to revamp it to how it suits the project. You can find the medallists table here. Cathairawr✝ 20:55, 7 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Medallists error. 

message: From the IOC Olympic Charter
Rule 28.5: "The area of jurisdiction of an NOC must coincide with the limits of the country in which
it is established and has its headquarters."
Rule 30.1: " In the Olympic Charter, the expression “country” means an independent State recognised
by the international community"
Rule 30.2: "The name of an NOC must reflect the territorial extent and tradition of its country and 
shall be subject to the approval of the IOC Executive Board."
Therefore, regardless of what some Republic of Ireland politician in the Dail says, this is the Olympic team of the Republic of Ireland under IOC rules. They only get away with that third point due to the duplicitous use of the word "Ireland" to refer to the Republic. Jonto (talk) 16:55, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly the 1924–32 teams did not represent the 26-county state; arguably the later ones did not either. Wikipedia must not rely on a Wikipedia:PRIMARY source like the IOC charter. How do you explain Hong Kong at the Olympics, Puerto Rico at the Olympics, Bermuda at the Olympics, none of which is an "independent State recognised by the international community"? jnestorius(talk) 11:28, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  IOC Rules 

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message: In the lead it says the Great Britain and Ireland team represented Ireland before 1924 but in the infobox it says other related appearances Great Britain 1896–1920. Which is correct? (Fran Bosh (talk) 18:56, 2 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead and infobox