Talk:Heavenly Mother

message: Since Mormonism is not the only religion that believes in a heavenly mother, should this article be reformatted to be more inclusive and not so LDS-centric? --Kmsiever 22:03, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree; however, as I know very little about other religions beliefs in this matter - I can't help - perhaps there is another article on God (female) that we could put at the top of the article. --Trödel 15:32, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there is the concept of heavenly mother in Hinduism, that is the universal God finding expression in the form of a goddess as well as a god.  I am no expert however.  I am sure that many New Age type people have the same kind of concept. Steve Dufour 16:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: More inclusive article

message: I propose that instead of inline cites (Origin, p 339-340), we use footnotes and reference the bibliography - as opposed to including the cites in the bibliography. Doing this would look like this: 
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In addition, members of the Anointed Quorum, a highly select spiritual organization in the early Church that was privy to Smith's teachings, also acknowledged the existence of a Heavenly Mother.See Wilcox, pp. 65-67 (1987); Orson Pratt, p. 292 (1876); Wilford Woodruff, pp. 31-32 (1875). Also, the Times and Seasons published a letter to the editor from a person named "Joseph's Specked Bird" in which the author stated that in the pre-Earth life, the spirit "was a child with his father and mother in heaven".See Joseph's Specked Bird, p. 892 (1845).
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References
Bibliography
* Joseph's Specked Bird, Letter to the Editor, Times and Seasons 6: 892 (May 1, 1845).
* Pratt, Orson, Journal of Discourses 18:292 (Nov. 12, 1876).
* Wilcox, Linda P., "The Mormon Concept of a Mother in Heaven", Sisters in Spirit: Mormon Women in Historical and Cultural Perspective, edited by Maureen Ursenbach Beecher and Lavina Fielding Anderson (Urbana: University of Illinois Press, 1987), 64-77.
* Woodruff, Wilford, Journal of Discourses 18:31-32 (June 27, 1875).
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I also think we should use Harvard Reference cite style. Any objections? --Trödel 15:32, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's a good idea. I have no preference for a style though. --Kmsiever 16:43, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you want to change the citations I've added to a uniform style (or offer better citations), I have no objection. 67.60.44.201 23:47, 23 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Oops... I wasn't signed in when I made those citation edits, or when I added the above comment (as 67.60.44.201). This is my user ID. Eric.d.dixon 23:49, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks - the above was implemented earlier this week - I'll add the Lee book to the bibliography. Generally I think (and this is only my view not a policy) that websites should rarely be included in a bibliography. --Trödel 02:20, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference/Note Proposal 

message: While I understand that the h should be capitalized in Church writings, is it really proper in this case? We're not supposed to be writing from a POV. Dead Horse 20:06, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization of "her" 

message: Also, maybe we can find a more generic article.  Goddess?  Mother Earth?  Something where more inclusion of other belief systems can be covered? "Heavenly Mother" is a very LDS term.  Bytebear 21:41, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think trying to merge it into Mother Goddess, as has been suggested, might offend some people. Steve Dufour 05:46, 13 January 2007 (UTC)

text: The Latter-day Saints, however, are not the only ones who believe in a Heavenly Mother, and they do not have a monopoly on the doctrine. --Kmsiever 19:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's what I would suggest. Merge this article with Mother Goddess, and then create a new article entitled Heavenly Mother (Latter Day Saints) to discuss LDS-specific beliefs. If the Branch Davidians would be offenced by Mother Goddess, then we can combine LDS and Branch Davidian beliefs in a new article entitled Heavenly Mother (Christianity). COGDEN 19:28, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge the article

message: Happy to see you removed this statement from your article: 
"or it may be that her role, unlike those of Jesus Christ and God the Father, does not impact eternal salvation"
Some reasons: 
John16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send [him/(her/that one)] unto you.
John16:8 And when [he/(she)] is come, [he/(she)] ***will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment***
John16:9 ==>Of sin, because they believe not on me<==
Mark3:29 But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation:
Prv8:35 For whoso findeth me findeth life, and shall obtain favour of the LORD.
Prv8:36 But he that sinneth against me wrongeth his own soul: ***all they that hate me love death***.
Prv9:1 Wisdom hath builded her house, she hath hewn out her seven pillars:
  13:17, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Statement Removed from Article

message: I organized the sections in alpha order, as the present order appears to be simply the order of creation.  Any objections?  Any other sequencing schemes?  WBardwin 01:27, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Section Sequence

message: Their section starts out: "Foremost among these groups,..."  I don't think objective person will think they are "foremost" before the Mormons, Catholics, Hindus, and other groups mentioned. Kitfoxxe (talk) 04:57, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Branch Davidians?

message: Someone needs to rewrite and clean up the Catholicism section.. Firstly, is it reffering to Catholicism as specifically the Roman Catholic Church, or Catholicism as a whole (including Orthodoxy and Anglicanism). If it is only reffering to the RCC then I suggest making a section for Anglicanism and for Eastern/Oriental Orthodoxy.. since similar views of the Blessed Virgin Mary are beliefs. Secondly, the section does not correctly describe the veneration and beliefs of Mary.. she IS seen as the Heavenly Mother by catholics.. not simply because we call her "Our Mother" but because we beleive her to be the Queen of Heaven and the Mother of God. --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 01:34, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Catholicism

message: Shouldn't there be a section on Christian Gnostics beliefs of the Virgin Sophia? --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 01:38, 24 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Gnosticism

message: The Collyridians worshipped the Virgin Mary as a Goddess. --Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 03:37, 26 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Collyridianism

message: ;Opening sentence
"In some religious traditions or movements, Heavenly Mother (also referred to as Mother in Heaven or Sky Mother) is the wife or feminine counterpart of the Sky father or God the Father" (emphases added).
;Feminine counterparts
In the series Supernatural, God has a sister.  She is described as being to 'nothingness' as God is to 'being,' to 'darkness' as God is to 'light.'  The series implies heavily that their relationship is very yin-and-yang.
;Wives
I have not read any Lucifer (other than the first issue of the second volume), so I cannot comment on whether God has a wife/ex-wife in that series.  But, I have seen the show based on the comic, Lucifer, and in this series, God does.  In addition to being God's ex-wife, she is the mother of the angels and co-creator of the universe.
;Suggestion
Perhaps we should add a ==Popular culture== section to the page to list examples of Heavenly Mothers in fiction, such as these.allixpeeke (talk) 06:20, 16 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeing as how there's been no objection, I am proceeding with the formation of a section on popular culture.Cheers,allixpeeke (talk) 07:15, 25 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Perhaps we should add a section on popular culture

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