Category talk:Redirects from other capitalisations

message: Seems a good idea - but these are automagically recognisable by any software producing a printed copy, so is there any other value? Rich Farmbrough 14:17, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Is there any value

message: Hmm. My comment is one year and one month and one day after yours. Anyways, I'm wondering if these are meant for redirects with lowercase last names, such as Bill clinton and Derek jeter. If the category and template were taken literally, tens of thousands of not currently tagged redirects would belong in here. However, scanning the entries, there don't seem to be many redirects of that sort. Does anyone know what the original intention was? Picaroon9288 17:56, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What was the original intention

message: When a bot fixs a double redirect may broke the sense of the template. Solution? --Emijrp (talk) 18:17, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ask the bot operator to stop it while the bot vandalizes. There is something on the page which the bot doesn't understand, if the operator can't be bothered to use his/her/its time to look at the page, s/h/it should not let the bot vandalize the page. Erik Warmelink (talk) 22:56, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixing double redirects bots 

message: 13-Feb-2008: The intro blurb for the category filled my screen, so I shortened that intro text by 12 lines.  Perhaps it should say, "Refer to doc page for further explanation" of the category. I cut 12 output lines by:
* removed redundant words when the meaning appeared obvious;
* omitted prefix "Template:" to list 7 names on 2 lines (not 4);
* removed ruler lines and blank lines;
* used some small-font (not "") to compress page length;
* converted "See-also" header/section break to one-line "Also see".
Everything was very wordy: I would have called the template "Redirectcaps" as just 12 letters with one spelling, not 8 templates with 30-letter names. When I first saw the template name, I couldn't understand what "R from" even meant, but now I understand a desperation to abbreviate redirect as "R".  It is easy to see why U.S. Gov't manuals are written about "standards for naming" to generate a simple name such as "Redirectcaps" before 8 rambling names get concocted. The category is more evidence of how many thousands of rambling names are getting crammed into Wikipedia, in the manner of an ageing bureaucracy. -Wikid77 (talk) 10:37, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Shortening category blurb

message: I totally understand the point of capitalization-related redirects. I don't get why this category exists. What's the deal? -Rrius (talk) 02:57, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: dunno about you but I rarely use the search box, it's usually much quicker to just type www.wikipedia.org/wiki/whatever in the address bar.. firefox even easier because it fills most of it in so you just ctrl+shift+leftarrow then type the title :) but sometimes stuff is missing and then you have to mess around searching --Kittins floating in the sky yay (talk) 14:55, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  I don't get it 

message: I've nominated this category for deletion here. --MZMcBride (talk) 06:14, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "The result of the discussion was a clear swing towards keep" at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2009 May 4#Template:R from other capitalisation. See there for the arguments-- basically it was because 1/ these redirects are useful for linking, tho they may not be needed for searching and 2/ that it is necessary in order to establish these as   Unprintworthy redirects.  DGG ( talk ) 19:53, 5 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nominated for deletion 

message: Please, check this Wikipedia:Bots/Requests for approval/BOTijo 2 (again). emijrp (talk) 15:46, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Creating redirects with bot 

message: I've put this category in the larger cat :Category:Unprintworthy redirects as I think none but one form of capitalisation is ever likely to be used in print.  Please let me know if I've erred in this. Declan Clam (talk) 17:58, 27 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unprintworthy 

message: Not sure, but something seems to be wrong with the Category page.  It freezes up my browser, so I have to "hard-exit". Then I have to login and start all over again.  I come across many cat pages, and this one is the first and only one to freeze up my IE8.  It's as if there's far too much code on this page.  Also, I installed  on this Redirect, but it does not appear after saving.  Has somebody hidden it?  Is something wrong? 
 —  Paine Ellsworth ( CLIMAX )  09:08, 26 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: *PPS. I had a problem with another cat, :Category:WikiProject Biography articles, and when I did as the MS engineers suggested, which was to >start >Run >regsvr32actxprxy.dll in the field, run it and wait for the Success box, then restart computer, it helped a little on that cat.  However, even after I did this, and even when I ran IE8 without add-ons, this cat still loads extremely slowly, although a little faster than before, but not much. (Note:  That applies only to when  is used on these cat pages.  When  is used, the pages load without any delay.)
Figured it out.  The problem ultimately lies with .  While that subpage template appears innocuous, it gets called for each letter of the alphabet in Template:Large category TOC, and thereby slows the load time tremendously of any other entity that calls the Large category template, such as this category.  One has to ask oneself, "Why should all those calls be necessary?  How many pages will begin with 'Bq' or 'Pz'?"  The work-around is to switch to the usage of , which calls the subpage "/aejot" instead of "/a-z".  This gives five (sensible) choices for each start-letter rather than twenty-six (most of which are never used), and it takes way less time to load.  So I have converted this cat to the TOC2 template call.  End of problem, I sincerely hope. 
 —  Paine Ellsworth ( CLIMAX )  05:15, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is something wrong?