Talk:Nineteen Eighty-Four (1984 film)

message: 1984 is the British title of this film, it was released elsewhere under the title Nineteen Eighty-Four.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Dlloyd (talk • contribs) 02:59, 3 August 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The on-screen title is Nineteen Eighty-Four. Vote for adopting this as the official title. Lee M 12:31, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: "The Eurythmics fourth album 1984 (For the Love of Big Brother) was subsequently released as a soundtrack to the film, and includes the track "Sexcrime" which was released as a single.  (A little sidenote: many people have been fond of the original Eurythmics soundtrack for the movie, which was experimental and dark, and ironically, by eradicating this soundtrack for the DVD release, the director commited the very thing which makes this movie so frightening - he altered history)"
I've extracted the following and made a rewrite of the music section for several reasons: 
1. The situation as described was inaccurate - in the cinematic release, the one Eurythmics track used in the film was over the closing credits. This was done against Michael Radford's consent, possibly without his knowlege, for purely commercial reasons (Eurythmics were under contract to Virgin Records at the time). 
2. Radford made a public statement at the time that the film on cinematic release was not the film he had delivered to the producers. I don't believe, therefore, that the comment that Radford "altered history" holds water. What he actually did was to restore the film he had made to its original state so that it would be seen by viewers of the DVD as he intended.  
3. The page is actually supposed to be about the film, not whether people like or dislike the contribution of various people to the music soundtrack. The section on the music was a lot bigger than the section on what the film was actually about. Eurythmics fans can surely argue the merits of their music on the Eurythmics page, if they wish.
--Stephen Burnett 12:00, 12 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Might I just add, in reference to point 1, that the original UK video release follows the cinematic release in having just one Eurythmics track ("Julia") over the end credits. The video actually contains the full-length version of the track, even though the credits themselves end quite early in the song. The rest just plays out over a blank screen. --Bonalaw 12:44, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

text: When I saw the theatrical release late in 1984, it did not seem to feature the Eurythmics tracks that were releases at the time of the film.  For example the Eurythmics hit 'Sex Crime', was not featured.  I heard the opposite of what the article suggests, that the Eurythmic's tracks had been removed following a row.  Gomez2002 12:26, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The music 

message: as we seem to be in a era of remakes (aka king kong, Resident evil, superman etc...), is there any nod to a 21st century version?86.31.236.116 10:38, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remake 

message: Why the hell is there "V For Vendetta" in the See Also list? Just because something similar happened to both films? Why dont we add "Fahrenheit 451" and the "BAFTA awards" in the same way?
I suggest the removal of these links.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.74.224.137 (talk) 21:21, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, since after 2 weeks I got zero responces, I'll just proceed and delete the V For Vendetta entry, feel free to add it back if you see a reason to.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.75.90.100 (talk) 17:32, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's one thing I noticed very quickly after seeing the two films: quite ironic that the actor who played Winston Smith should also play the Big Brother-like figure in a very similar film.  That's the link, not the situation. Backgroundbob 01:09, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  V For Vendetta 

message: 1984 is more about totalarism and its perils than libertarianism. futurebird 21:46, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove from [[:Category:Films which explore libertarian themes]] 

message: Is this on DVD or VHS or downloadable in US? 71.50.69.27 02:32, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: I'm starting this talk section to discuss moving this page. I'll move existing comments from the top of the talk page here and continue the discussion. --Steven J. Anderson 01:44, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  1984 (film) or Nineteen Eighty-Four (film)

message: Are there any more differences from the novel? Differences in events? Differences in dialogue? 218.215.143.107 01:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article suggests Julia was not at O'Brien's apartment with Winston in the novel. As far as I understood, she was there but O'Brien told her to leave before Winston. Oh Frustration (talk) 13:25, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

text: The quote I seem to remember from the end of the novel was something like "As the long awaited bullet was entering his brain ..." But it's been years since I read it, I could be wrong. It doesn't seem like a novel interpretation to me. --Steven J. Anderson (talk) 08:22, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, it does say that in the penultimate paragraph of the novel, but he is sitting in the café, ignoring what is going on around him, and half-remembering, half- imagining (or having a vision of?) himself back in the Ministry of Love: "He was in the public dock, confessing everything, implicating everybody. He was walking down the white-tiled corridor, with the feeling of walking in sunlight, and an armed guard at his back. The long-hoped-for bullet was entering his brain." In the next paragraph (the last of the novel), his mind comes back to where he is (in the café) and he is pleased that he has been cured: "But it was all right, everything was all right, the struggle was finished. He had won the victory over himself. He loved Big Brother."  Kmasters0 (talk) 11:41, 21 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  more differences from the novel? 

message: is the 10th, Oct. 1984 the release-date for England or for the US? -- Hartmann Schedel (talk) 20:34, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Release Date 

message: In the production section of this article it is written "Sonia Brownell, Orwell's widow, owned the film rights to the famed novel. Shortly before her death in 1980, Brownell eventually agreed to allow the film to be produced only under the condition that no futuristic special effects be used."
But there is no reference given to this statement. One would naturally assume that in allowing for this film to be made, Ms. Brownell would have also set some other preconditions asides from 'no futuristic special effects be used.' The film is dogmatically faithful to the book, I'd say, and it does not even shy away from showing the old technology that Orwell spoke about in the book ('floating fortresses' and so forth). Can someone please add a reference to this section?--The Diamond Apex (talk) 16:12, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Brownell's comments 

message: The novel does not depict the killing of Smith. In the final scene, as in the movie, he is sitting in the Café drinking gin and listening to the news. He just realizes that now that he has achieved his goal of learning to love Big Brother, he will be killed, and he imagines and welcomes his coming death. I edited the "differences" section to reflect this.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stewart king (talk • contribs) 22:19, 24 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Smith killed? 

message: "Alexandra Palace not used for the two minute hate"  Are you sure?  This looks very much like the Great Hall at Alexandra Palace: http://film.virtual-history.com/pic.php?id=964 vs http://www.alexandrapalace.com/For_Exhibitors/Conferences_&_banqueting/Great_Hall.html --128.16.5.246 (talk) 13:56, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Locations 

message: :Please add to the list references that can be used for the film article.
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thread_title: References to use

message: He doesn't say anything, it appears to be narration. You physically cannot say "I love you" without moving your lips, try it. Should it not also be mentioned that he looks absolutely horrified? It's clear a part of him is resisting his brainwashing. Darkwarriorblake (talk) 23:12, 22 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot ending 

message: The article uses a claim from the Turner Classic Movies website, clearly sourced from IMDB's production dates, that the film started production on March 19, 1984 and wrapped in October 1984. This is completely impossible, as the film was released in October 1984 in the UK. Also, no film like this would take seven months to film. Two months would have been a reasonable amount of time, and indeed, there is a title card at the end of the film stating that it "was photographed in and around London during the period April-June 1984, the exact time and setting imagined by the author."http://insidestory.org.au/nineteen-eighty-four-turns-sixty/ This seems like far more convincing information than IMDB's claim. Jamesluckard (talk) 01:10, 7 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filming dates