Talk:Socionomics

message: # Behavioral Trading, p. 26.
# Technical Analysis Plain and Simple, pp. 127-128.
# Evidence-Based Technical Analysis, p. 151.
# The New Laws of the Stock Market Jungle p. 269.
# The Irwin Guide to Using the Wall Street Journal, p. 354.
# Applying Elliott Wave Theory Profitably, p. 179.
# Hot Trading Secrets: How to Get In and Out of the Market with Huge Gains, p. 7, 35, 53.
# Secrets of the Undergroundtrader, p. 273.
# The Book of Investing Wisdom: Classic Writings by Great Stock-Pickers and Legends of Wall Street, pp. 263-272, Peter Krass Editor (Prechter essay, "Elvis, Frankenstein and Andy Warhol").
# How Do We Create a Philosophical Cosmos for Acting Socially and Being Happy? 
# The Wave Principle of Human Social Behavior and the New Science of Socionomics, Robert Prechter.
# Pioneering Studies In Socionomics,  Robert Prechter.
*Comment.  Rgfolsom's lengthy list above is extremely extremely misleading.  The first four books listed above that I was able to check through a full-text search do not discuss socionomics, or simply footnote Robert Prechter's book: Behaviorial Trading p. 26 only mentions the Prechter book once and does not discuss socionomics except as the title of the book (despite the false characterization "Books with a non-trivial mention of socionomics"); Technical Analysis: Plain and Simpledoes not mention Socionomics at all according to Safari; New Laws of the Stock Market Jungle does not mention Socionomics at all according to Safari; The Irwin Guide does not mention socionomics at all according to Google books; and I stopped checking after that first four-for-four strikeout.  I encourage others to double-check the list also and include their findings. THF 16:52, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Books with a non-trivial mention of socionomics

message: # Robert R. Prechter Jr. (2001), "Unconscious Herding Behavior as the Psychological Basis of Financial Market Trends and Patterns," Journal of Psychology and Financial Markets, Vol. 2, No. 3: pages 120-125. (document here)
# John Nofsinger (2005), "Social Mood and Financial Economics," Journal of Behavioral Finance, Vol. 6, no. 3, pages 144-160. (The author's use of "social mood" is synonymous with socionomics document here.) 
# Kenneth R. Olson (2006), "A Literature Review of Social Mood," Journal of Behavioral Finance, Vol. 7, No. 4 (abstract here), pages 193-203.
# Robert R. Prechter Jr. and Wayne D. Parker (2007), "The Financial/Economic Dichotomy in Social Behavioral Dynamics: The Socionomic Perspective," Journal of Behavioral Finance, vol. 8 no. 2 (abstract here), pp. 84-108.
:Two of these papers are non-independent use of the neologism by Prechter; the other two use "social mood", not "socionomics," and it is the editor's conclusion that they are really about socionomics. THF 17:53, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer-reviewed journal papers dedicated to socionomics

message: A Google search for "socionomics" brings some 48,000 results -- and those exclude results from elliottwave.com, socionomics.net, and socionomics.org. Around 2,300 of the Google search results are non-English language, thus socionomics has some international notability. —Preceding unsigned comment added by  (talk • contribs) 
it appears that the term is also used in other meanings. Or how do you account for
:Canines also are important in other aspects of socionomics (biting)?
anyway, it appears obvious that the term has some notability. The question is, is its notability separate from Prechter's? If not, the material here should just be merged into Prechter's article (the continued existence of which is undisputed). dab (𒁳) 14:37, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're obviously right that the term appears elsewhere with another meaning. From what I can tell and as your own search suggests, those amount to a tiny percentage. Your question about notability is 100% on point, and I hope you'll check the references in the article and AfD page -- I firmly believe you'll find a satisfactory answer in those places. Thanks, --Rgfolsom 14:46, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: the 50,000 hits may simply be the result of spamming (of the sort we are trying to avoid on WP precisely by the ongoing AfD). Google scholar yields 45 hits. About half of these are directly tied to Prechter or the "Socionomics Institute". In the remaining [ 19 hits, the psychological term seems to predominate over the economic one. dab (𒁳) 12:25, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know about spam, I did see at least some duplicate results in the general Google search -- I took as much time as I reasonably had looking for reliable sources, in the general search plus Google scholar and books, and in some subscription databases. Of course I may have missed something that's out there, but I've posted everything in the AfD that looked like a reliable source. Hope this helps.--Rgfolsom 13:27, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Search engine

message: * Vox Day's column.
* Minyanville applies socionomics.
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* Motor Age on socionomics essay on car colors.
* Slashdot review.
* Hackwriters review. 
* Film review of socionomics documentary related to horror genre.]
* Blog entry about socionomics.
* Market analysis using socionomics.
(Should have signed this when I posted) --Rgfolsom 01:21, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Socionomics in practice