Talk:Mysterio

message: I write to request a section that briefly summarizes the essence of the character.  The existing character description is too detailed to be useful to someone looking for a quick answer to "who is Mysterio".  Such a query will likely be more common given the up coming movie.  I propose 2 or 3 paragraphs that summarize Mysterio's powers, origin, motivation, one or two highest profile exploits.  Thoughts?
Mr.trippple (talk) 14:41, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Request: Brief Character Summary

message: Seriously will however it is stop deleting my contribution, i've now found a reliable source! Do I deleted ur information - NO! Its rude and inconsiderate.
: Thanks for adding the source -- that's all we needed.  I didn't doubt it (I've been hearing the same rumour for years) but just because people are speculating about it doesn't mean it's true, so we needed some evidence. - HKMARKS 03:05, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Blogs are not reliable sources. Try again. CovenantD 03:58, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

text: IMDB has him listed for the film, as Quentin Beck but only rumored, not confirmed.  I suggest waiting a while... no doubt a more reliable source will appear in the next few months.  The movie's still almost a year away.  In the mean time, you can find the statement from Campbell about "annoying" Spider-Man, and add it to Bruce Campbell.  Until there's evidence that he's actually playing Beck and not just having another cameo, it doesn't belong here. - HKMARKS 04:26, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And thanks for pointing me to the Vulture and Electro articles. I'll go take care look them over for uncited rumors next. CovenantD 04:57, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Should it be noted that in the Ultimate Spider-Man comics, an actor referred to as "Bruce" (obviously a caricature of Campbell) plays Mysterio in a film about Spider-Man long before his proper introduction as a "real-world" foe of the ol' web-slinger?  --The_Iconoclast (talk) 16:24, 21 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bruce Campbell 

message: I notice the line about there being hints in the books that he's gay has been removed, with the edit summary saying it's "bull and stupid". I'm inclined to agree, but it's also definitely there. They aren't even subtle hints; we're talking lines like "I am not, by life preference, as constitutionally solicitous to the ladies as Adrian." It's not a big deal, but since it seems to be a significant difference between book-Mysterio and comics-Mysterio (who has never had this implied, as far as I know), I figured it was worth mentioning. Daibhid C 21:02, 18 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sinister Six novels

message: *We got articles about the first and second Mysterio, but what about Daniel Berkhart? Should there be a Mysterio article on him? You may also discuss about this on the Mysterio (Francis Klum) page --The Dark Lord of Wiki (talk) 13:53, 27 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quentin Beck and Francis Klum, but no... 

message: Unnecessary "tell the story" component in Video Games and Novels. This is an encyclopedia, not a fan site. Also, the Television section should be trimmed, his cartoon appearances (each, which are pretty much two sentences) don't need a headline. DCincarnate (talk) 17:47, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There's nothing particularly unencyclopedic about plot or character summary.  You'd get the same for Hamlet or Macbeth in Britannica, and yet calling EB a "Shakespeare fan site" would be a little silly.  In the cases of smaller, more discrete works, like plays (Hamlet) or novels (Don Quixote), this character-based "tell the story" can happen in a fairly succinct manner.  But with characters from sprawling, multivolume serial works that span several types of media, such as comics books and television, this approach doesn't work so well, if at all.  Ford MF (talk) 19:22, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The point of a section describing a character's role in other media is to just sum everything up briefly. Details of the character's actual role in the media belongs within the article on the work itself or one of its subpages. TTN (talk) 01:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. -- DCincarnate (talk) 17:33, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other media 

message: This article suffers from an excessively long plot summary, and needs a massive culling. As well, there's limited, at best, real world notability and content here. I"ll take this on over the next week or two. ThuranX (talk) 04:26, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up. 

message: Whilst this picture is a very good representation of the character Mysterio... it's the wrong Mysterio. The Mysterio depicted in the picture at the top of the page is actually Francis Klum, the third Mysterio. The picture needs to be changed to a picture of Quentin Beck, since this is his article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.242.26.82 (talk) 16:22, 20 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the article is about Mysterio. Given the similarity all his costumes have had, I think it's a negligible difference to note at all, much less run to change pictures over. In fact, that looks exactly like the Beck costume - isn't that from the story where Klum impersonated Beck, thus using Beck's costume, making it story trivia about who's on the inside? The image meets all the requirements per WP:COMIC for an image. No reason to change. ThuranX (talk) 17:08, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

text: It still is not the character being described in the article. Just because he wears a similar costume does not mean that a picture of Klum should be used on an article about Beck. It's not a picture of the character that the article is about. The fact that it is not the same character is not 'trivia'. It is not Quentin Beck. Ben Reilly once wore a costume similar to Peter Parker's when he took up Parker's mantle as Spider-Man, but that does not mean that a picture of Reilly should be used to represent Parker. Same could be said about Daken. He now wears a costume that is pretty much identical to one of Logan's outfits, and uses the codename 'Wolverine', but we don't use a picture of Daken in place of Logan. And Mac Gargan, who now looks the same as Spider-Man did in the black suit. The fact that the costumes are similar/the same is irrelevant; the character shown is not the character that the article is about, so it needs to be changed to a one that is actually of the character described. The information on Klum could be removed, such as powers, since he already has an article which describes all his powers, and his Mysterio tricks, and any info not present in his article could probably be added to it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.148.231.228 (talk) 22:38, 20 August 2009 (UTC)

text: To be honset, the layout of this article could use some cleanup. The way it is now, it almost seems as if it only covers one person who used multiple aliases. Perhaps editing the page to look something more like the Patriot (comics) article would be more appropriate. It would make it clearer that there are multiple people who have used this alias. Someone unfamiliar with the character could be confused by the article at first glance.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.30.1.163 (talk) 22:54, 21 August 2009 (UTC)

text: That seems like it might be a good idea.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.13.116.244 (talk) 09:58, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I read it as it is just fine - one identity held by multiple people. Given that the Mysterio identity went through numerous nearly identical costumes, and this article's about Mysterio, NOT Quentin Beck nor Klum alone, I see no reason to change an image which depicts what the article discusses. Were this about Beck, you might be right. Were it about Klum, you'd be wrong. Instead, it's about Mysterio, so you're still wrong. The costume is that of Mysterio. ThuranX (talk) 20:45, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change The Picture, Wrong Mysterio 

message: User:Burningblue52 inserted a claim that director Sam Raimi "revealed" something, and he cites it to Comicbookmovie.com, which I'm not sure is a reliable source. In any event, the information does not come from there but from io9, which Comicbookmovie.com even says, and it is not Sam Raimi saying this but some unidentified person named Jeffrey Henderson. Unless we have Sam Raimi saying something, we can't claim Sam Raimi said something. --Tenebrae (talk) 01:23, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Tenebrae My mistake as I misread the article. Citing comicbookmovie.com is a reliable cite as it has interviews with varying celebrities on their projects. I can cross-ref the io9 webpage. As far as who Jeffrey Henderson is -- he is the storyboard artist, who is also a filmmaker who worked on the initial beginnings of Spider-Man 4. I will correct the information.
Burningblue52 (talk) 04:05, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: All good!--Tenebrae (talk) 14:54, 3 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Cite does not say what editor claims

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thread_title:  External links modified (February 2018) 

message: It has been reported that actor Jake Gyllenhaal was in talks for playing Mysterio in the Spider Man Homecoming sequel, so should that be added in the film section of the article or will we have to wait it out until June 2019 and see? Oblow14 (talk) 23:56, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Jake Gyllenhaal is definitely in the film as Mysterio, as seen in the online trailer. The article just needs a reference or because it's now common knowledge, the citation required flag can be removed in my opinion. 5Q5 (talk) 13:25, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Homecoming Sequel 

message: The article as I write this says Mysterio has no superpowers, yet in the trailer for the live-action 2019 film Spiderman: Far from Home as portrayed by Jake Gyllenhaal he seems to be able to emit powerful energy beams from his hands and can fly, or am I interpreting the trailer wrong? If the film Mysterio does indeed have biological superpowers then an editor needs to note that in the article. I'm just passing through. 5Q5 (talk) 13:32, 17 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does Mysterio 2019 screen version have superpowers? 

message: The article describes Mysterio battling Spider-Man with robots of the X-Men, then says, “After this Spider-Man gets a card that enables him to go on to battle Sandman.” This may be true, but I can’t see what this last means, in relation to Mysterio as a character; if it does mean something (e.g., was the “card” from Mysterio?), what is it? Jock123 (talk) 15:21, 17 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification…? 

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