Talk:Roller Games

message: The T-Birds are still skating. Their next game is October 13,2007 at Fairplex Pomona. The T-Bird website gives more info: www.lathunderbirds.com.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hlecptr (talk • contribs) 00:39, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Still skating

message: Geniac reverted anonymous contributions from 63.164.145.198 because of lack of citations, and also, I'm guessing, because the same IP address was responsible for blanking an unrelated article earlier in the day. Besides adding citations for anything potentially contentious that's in the article already, we need to adhere to higher standards going forward. Please, when adding new material, cite your sources! Thanks! —mjb (talk) 03:02, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations needed

message: There is a breach-of-contract lawsuit in progress, filed in January by Bill Griffiths, Jr. against Bob Sedillo (Pegasus Music Group).  There is much discussion about it at David Sams' Web site www.rollergames.com.  When last I looked, word had it that it may go to trial this coming spring.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by CookyMonzta (talk • contribs) 19:37, 16 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Lawsuit pending

message: There is word from the roller derby fan site RollerFans.com that Bob Sedillo passed away on 29 November 2009, the details of which are not yet known.  As for the litigation, I am still oblivious to the details for which the Griffiths family brought their suit against Sedillo (with the exception of perhaps a possible breach of contract or a violation of the terms of the change in ownership of the T-Birds), or the damages they were seeking; but what I am aware of, as of late, was that the Griffiths family won their lawsuit.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by CookyMonzta (talk • contribs) 07:48, 1 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Report:  Bob Sedillo has died

message: "Roller Games was the name of a sports entertainment spectacle created in the early 1960s in Los Angeles, California[1] as a rival to the Jerry Seltzer-owned Roller Derby league, which had enjoyed a monopoly on the sport of roller derby — and its name — since its inception in 1935."
This suggests that there was no other leagues besides Leo/Jerry Seltzer's NRDL (National Roller Derby League) between 1935 and 1961 and that Roller Games (or National Skating Derby) was the first other league to play such a game.
There were other "outlaw" leagues before NSD formed in 1961. Most notably the International Roller Speedway league played games across the U.S. and around the world back in the 1950s. It wasn't called "Roller Derby" due to trademark issues, same as Roller Games. It'd take a bit more research to get the full skinny on when IRS started/finished, but this link suggests it was in action in 1953. Original research here: I know a skater who skated with the International Roller Speedway in between tours with Leo Seltzer's Roller Derby. In any case, it's not quite correct that there was a monopoly (other than on the name) before Roller Games came along.
Outlaw leagues tended to come and go (some of 'em dying before playing a single game). But there probably were a good ten or twenty of them during the life of NRDL/IRDL. You can sometimes find the programs on eBay. TimBRoy (talk) 01:43, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorrect details in the lede. 

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