Talk:Cleaner fish

message: Merely a vandalised empty page. I've added some material now and removed the "speedy deletion" message. Cheers, Neale Neale Monks 11:04, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Starting over

message: Moved from Talk:Cleaning station, and slightly modified in the move.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stefan (talk • contribs) 14:38, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My problem with your solution here would be that you end up creating an article for a term that (as far as I know) doesn't exist, "cleaner species". In the aquarium hobby at least, these animals are always referred to as either "cleaner fish" or "cleaner shrimps". Furthermore, we're talking about a range of behaviours here, not just one. Some fishes appear to be obligate cleaners (Labroides spp. wrasse) and depend entirely on their cleaning services for nutrition. But other cleaner fishes do not. Within Elacatinus spp. gobies you have a spectrum from species that live commensally inside sponges through to coral dwelling zooplankton feeders to species that perform cleaning services for at least part of their nutrition. The freshwater cleaner fish certainly do not maintain stations, and in the case of the brackish water Etroplus spp., the cleaning behaviour is a unique symbiosis between two species and the service by E. maculatus does not seem to be extended to any other host species. The shrimps are at least as variable as the fish. Finally, a cleaning station is a particular phenomenon observed on coral reefs. It doesn't seem to have a parallel anywhere else, even though cleaning behaviours have been reported across a wide range of taxa, both marine and freshwater. Cheers, Neale Neale Monks 11:09, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Neal explained what I mean when I wrote '2 different subjects, should have 2 pages', I think to merge is to talk about two or three different things in one article. Sure all three are short, but still different. Cleaner species does exists, (I was about to prove that it did not but) google gives "Cleaner species" = 554, "cleaner fish" = 40,600 and "cleaner shrimp" = 105,000 hits, so I think that says that people would be quite unlikely to use that word. --Stefan talk 14:20, 26 September 2007 (UTC)

text: It seems the term I've been looking for is 'cleaning symbiosis' (see e.g. Cleaning symbiosis as an evolutionary game: To cheat or not to cheat?, Cleaning Behavior (Britannica) and others), which refers to the interspecific equivalent of social grooming rather than any particular species of cleaner (it seems to apply only to fish and shrimp, though I don't see why it wouldn't extend to birds cleaning parasites off ungulates etc). I suggest we create a new article cleaning symbiosis and consider merging cleaning station into it. We can then decide what to do with cleaner fish and shrimp - they could either be merged or kept separate. If we want to be really mergist we could even merge personal and social grooming and cleaning symbiosis into 'cleaning behavior', as with the EB article linked above, though I think that would be a bit much myself (perhaps a summary there would be an option, if personal and social were merged). If we are going to keep cleaning station though, I think we should seriously look at that option - four articles on the same behavior is a bit over the top. Richard001 11:46, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

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1. These fish are found all throughout the great blue sky 76.111.193.204 (talk) 01:03, 3 April 2012 (UTC)
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message: :File:White-spotted puffer is being cleaned by Hawaiian cleaner wrasse.jpg It is a composite of a few shots photographed at the same time. Maybe it is more encyclopedic because it shows the cleaner fish under different angle, and moving about the other fish.--Mbz1 (talk) 23:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
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message: I plan to add an additional section to elaborate the important of this behaviour in salmon farming across the North Atlantic, specifically in Norway, Ireland, Iceland, and Atlantic Canada. Cleaning behaviour is used in farming facilities as a treatment for salmon louse that cause lesions and disease in salmon populations.Amhwarren (talk) 02:12, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Implications of cleaning behaviour