Talk:Quang Trung

message: :Will be use when writing, I don't explain anything for Quang Trung, so wait please Magnifier (talk) 11:23, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  User:Vinataba's text 

message: **Don't translate directly from Vietnamese version, it have very few in-line citations, some important historical in-accurates, and praise the Emperor a little too much. Do a reseach before write.
** Some on-line sources that you can use: (in Vietnamese)
***LỊCH SỬ VIỆT NAM TỪ THƯỢNG CỔ ĐẾN THỜI HIỆN ĐẠI 
***Việt Nam Sử Lược
***Hòang Lê Nhất Thống Chí
***CÁC TRIỀU ĐẠI VIỆT NAM
***Khâm Định Việt Sử Thông Giám Cương Mục (somewhat unneutralized documents)
:Please do not edit the English version directly if your English is not at advanced level. If you can make a rough translation of a Vietnamese source, please add it to this talk page first, so that someone who can write English can then make a proper translation and check that it matches the original Vietnamese. A general principle is always to translate into your first or best language, not the other way round. Itsmejudith (talk) 22:47, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry I have no wiki to edit now except Wiki en (I left Wiki Vi and I don't want to use a sockpuppet). If I made any mistakes please correct it. Magnifier (talk) 05:01, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I found it very hard to correct the English because I wasn't sure what everything meant. My Vietnamese isn't very good either. It is a good idea to put a suggestion on the talk page first and then everyone can help check it before it goes in the article. Thanks. Itsmejudith (talk) 21:52, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes 

message: * I would say that the backing of Nguyen Anh by Siam deserve some mention, especially the Battle of Rach Gam-Xoai Mut, of which the participation of Quang Trung was crucial to Tay Son victory. Manofedit2 (talk) 04:28, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tay Son's conflict with Siam 

message: By whose criteria is the English of this passage "fine"?  Such edits, by admins no less, seriously undermine the credibility of our encyclopedia. Badagnani (talk) 02:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think NPOV and UNDUE violations are a lot more important. YellowMonkey  (bananabucket) 02:29, 17 December 2008 (UTC)

text: Still the above editor "Badagnani" blanked the material in such a manner that I question if his/her edits positively contribute to the Southeast Asia and especially Vietnamese articles.  In this case the above editor "Badagnani" didn't repair the text as he/she has also accused editor "YellowMonkey" of not repairing the text.Sea888 (talk) 06:24, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Once again user "Badagnani" continues to vandalize this page without resorting to the discussion here on this page. See this edit as well as the others made recently.Sea888 (talk) 03:43, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's fine? 

message: I have just tweaked the the lead and I have some comments regard to it.
*He was subsequently proclaimed Emperor of Vietnam with the name Quang Trung. <-- wrong! He proclaimed himseft Emperor of Vietnam before the campaign again the Qing. He did that to claim the Mandate of Heaven from the Le King (see Le Chieu Thong) and gain support of Northern Vietnamese.
*He set up a new system of administration and replaced the traditional Chinese script with the Vietnamese Chữ Nôm as the official written language of the country. -> His system wasn't a new system of administration, it was a new version of Le Dynasty system. Moreover, he tried to reduce the usage of Chinese script but hasn't finished yet; most of official document was written in Chinese character.
*His religious toleration won him the support of the growing Christian community and his campaign of the common people against the traditional elites won him the admiration of the peasant majority. He hadn't won the people in North Vietnam, they still considered Le Dynasty as the legitmate dynasty of Vietnam and many sholars refused to serve Quang Trung.
*Xiam Chinese <-- I think the editor who write this paragraph try to regard Siam and China as one contry?
*most popular figure in the country <--- I don't know where have the editor get this. But in Southern Vietnam, Nguyen Hue wasn't much popular due to the sack of Cu Lao Pho by Tay Son, Nguyen Hue's involvement in a massacre of Hoa people in 1782, and the popularity of Nguyen Anh. In Northern Vietnam, Tay Son had been regarded as usurpers for a long time after the fall of Tay Son Dynasty. And words like the national savior, won the battles at lighting speed.. should be avoided because they make the paragraph not neutral, Nguyen Hue was a good ruler but he wasn't a saint.
Moreover, The English of this paragraph is poor and should be improve. I found it hard to read. I will try to fix this article in the next summer break.--Amore Mio (talk) 12:41, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Xiam Chinese, unprecedented national reforms, national savior of Vietnam, won .. and so forth 

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