Talk:Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan

message: Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahayan has still not been elected as a president of the UAE. Instead, Shaikh Maktoom, the governor of Dubai, is practising presidency temporarly untill a new president will be elected within 30 days from Novemer 2, 2004, a day in which Shikh Zayed passed away.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.130.63.3 (talk) 22:14, 6 November 2004
:Since the world's press, quoting the UAE official news agency   has reported otherwise, you will need to come up with evidence to support your case if your comment is to stay. Note also [], the official site for the Ministry of Information and Culture in the UAE, which at the time of posting leads with a story of President Sheik Khalifa receiving Jacques Chirac. The King of Bahrain is quoted as saying '....we welcome the mandate taken by the Supreme Council to name Sheikh Khalifa the President of the UAE, wishing him all the success, as he is the right successor for the right predecessor”, said the Bahrain King in a statement upon arrival here.' It all seems pretty much like an open and shut case to me. jguk 23:15, 6 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: President

message: The spelling in the title doesn't match that of the article. Grusl (talk) 02:36, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting.  A similar discussion just began on Zayed bin Sultan Al Nahayan's talk page.  I think everything should be changed to "Nahyan."  The official UAE government website uses "Nahyan." Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 02:57, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  For what it's worth, I agree! Grusl (talk) 07:18, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay.  I will go through the entire article and change the name, right now.  Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 18:24, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  There was only one incorrect name in the article.  I guess the main problem was just the title, I changed that too.  Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 18:29, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nahyan/Nahayan

message: The picture is of a horse and the title of the picture reads "maxamed cabul waa iraad sxbkiis." This article should be nominated for protection.  --@Discover10 00:51, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have fixed the problem for now
 84.13.122.6 (talk) 19:44, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: Here it is written he is born Januar 25, 1945, but the article has the category of 1948 births, and in a box it is written he was born in 1948.  In the most of other languages, for example my language Norwegian, it is written he is born in 1948 - and no date. In German it is written same date as in English, and the category of 1945 births, and in Russian it is written he was born in 1945 with date, but the category of 1949 births. 
80.202.168.82 (talk) 21:31, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  When is he born? 

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message: This link is a Wikipedia article which has been verified. Therefore, it can be used. 'http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_of_religion_in_the_United_Arab_Emirates#Religious_freedom'.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.127.54.166 (talk) 14:00, 9 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits 

message: Half of this article is dedicated to sewage from his "vacation home."
The guy is a head of state and his biography is about sewage in the seychelles?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.195.223.126 (talk) 15:40, 26 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Mention of the yacht has been included. 84.13.122.6 (talk) 19:48, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  really now 

message: Can we add a proper family section please?--88.104.131.9 (talk) 16:31, 25 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family 

message: Isn't Khalifa a title rather than a proper name? Kortoso (talk) 17:04, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It can be either 84.13.122.6 (talk) 19:45, 25 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Khalifa? 

message: This passport photo shows the date of birth as September 7 1948. You cannot get a more credible source than this and I know it may look sketchy to non-UAE citizens but as a UAE passport holder, I can attest it is real. There aren't any websites online which show the full date of birth as all/most only show the year 1948. Please change the birth date to the real one. I have done it thrice so far and people keep reverting back and I am a UAE Citizen so I will not "vandalize" my President's page.  was kind enough to link me to Wikipedia pages regarding edits and this is quoted from his response in my talk page on 10:28, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose: I'm unaware of how the article came by the original birth date, but we have two RSs that give the BLP subject's age. I am not aware of any RSs that disagree. Do any editors have such an RS? ... richi (hello) 13:12, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

text: Comment Before anyone makes a judgment please complete the preliminary reading, of the following two sections of the attached articles Sheikh Zayed birthdate and Sheikh Saqr birthdate. I think a similar situation to these two articles has occurred. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 13:17, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I suspect you misunderstand what Wikipedia is, despite several editors' attempts to gently educate you. We do not judge truth here. We let WP:RSs do that. The two examples you quote are all well-sourced, AFAICT. So feel free to be bold and do something similar, but only if you have a RS ... richi (hello) 13:26, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

text: Additionally, I note that both those articles describe dead people. If Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan was more-than-recently dead, many editors would be less legalistic about the situation. But he appears to be very much alive! ... richi (hello) 13:29, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

text: That's my point. What reliable sources use the current birthdate? Please see WP:CIRCULAR, as I think it may have caused this problem. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 13:32, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: ref#1 (Forbes is normally WP:AEIS—good) and the sole external link (WP:PRIMARY—adequate as a confirmation). Do you see evidence that the Forbes editor has fallen into the Circular trap? ... richi (hello) 13:42, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I may have found the start of the circular trap. The Forbes article where it is reportedly stated (but I have failed to see this information despite yours' two claims) was added around 2 years after this . As noted this is based off of astrotheme.com which is almost certainly not an RS. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:07, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

text: I do agree with Emir of Wikipedia that none of these birthdates may be correct, but the January 25 birthdate has no RS while the September 7 at least has one debatable RS. I am confident that ref#1's birthdate was obtained from Wikipedia as richi suggested. There is a Snapchat account @UAE (also owner of @EmiratesRoyalFamily on Instagram) who talks about the UAE's leaders and is regularly invited to events and weddings where Sheikhs attend, and if you check his Instagram you will see how he only posts photos of the country's leaders. Last night on @UAE Snapchat, he talked about the wrong birthdate of Sheikh Khalifa bin Zayed Al Nahyan and requested everyone not to rely on the Wikipedia birthdate, and in turn supplied the passport image. I then rushed to make the changes on his Wikipedia page and my edits got reverted thrice at least. I fully respect Wikipedia rules regarding edits but what I do not understand is that the January 25 birthdate has no RS while the September 7 birthdate has a debatable RS, but I personally consider it to be a RS because no one can fake the passport copy like that and even if someone does, they are going to be severely prosecuted. I hope Wikipedia editors pass the edits when they deem the source a relatively good RS. Elemirati (talk) 14:44, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: For the record, I suggested no such thing. As for changing the date, please supply at least one RS that cites this other date. ... richi (hello) 15:50, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

text: I think the user meant that I suggested it, but I personally do think that the ID is a good enough RS. Where in the Forbes ref#1 or the external link does it mention the exact birthday? I can only see them specifying the year. The Forbes ref#1 source were retrieved in 26 June 2012 so I'll look for edits before that. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 19:58, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

text: Update I found this, but I'm not sure how good it is. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 13:37, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Better than nothing, I guess. But can you find a ref that speaks to your alternative September date? ... richi (hello) 13:49, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

text:  Please see below. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 13:57, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

text: Some more sources We should also consider these. I'll have a look at what else I can find. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 13:44, 12 November 2016 (UTC)

text: Yet another source I have found one more source which again only specifies the year and not month. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:02, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see a birth date in any of those four ... richi (hello) 13:51, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  The only thing that I could find online at the moment was the ID provided by Elemirati, but my point was that he certainly has an official birthdate to tick the box, but the exact one may be unknown like this fathers. My linking of Sheikh Saqr was to show that a WP:REFLOOP may have occurred. I doubt that the September birthday is his exact birthday, but I believe it is what is used on official documents. I'll try and take a look at Arabic language sources to see what else I can find. The lack of a birthday in those official government sources or closely linked organisations suggests the exact birthdate isn't known. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 13:57, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I do wish you two would stop putting words in my mouth. I didn't say the Forbes ref gave his DoB. Scroll up, and you'll see I said the two refs gave his age. We can note that the DoB is disputed, but we should not quote a disputed date unless it has a RS—WP:BLP ... richi (hello) 20:08, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry if you're getting irritated; didn't mean to put words in your mouth but this discussion has been a bit disorganised and confusing. I'm not disputing his age, which I believe is correct give or take a year. I agree that we should note the precise DoB is disputed, but if we do that then we should use the one on the ID and not the one from the astrology website. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:22, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Apology graciously accepted, but please indent correctly. I can't find an astrology website in the reflist; can you clarify? ... richi (hello) 23:29, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I did not include it in the reflist, but wrote it above. "I may have found the start of the circular trap. The Forbes article where it is reportedly stated (but I have failed to see this information despite yours' two claims) was added around 2 years after this . As noted this is based off of astrotheme.com which is almost certainly not an RS. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 20:07, 12 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of birth 

message: Any source on his Sandhurst training? What year did he graduate? MultipleTom (talk) 23:21, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sandhurst 

message: There is some speculation, I came across a Youtube video which states that 'A Royal Family member has died'. 101.178.163.19 (talk) 05:14, 7 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: He has died today, it's all over the UAE news: https://www.thenationalnews.com/uae/2022/05/13/president-sheikh-khalifa-dies-age-73/ 176.205.9.101 (talk) 11:14, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death 

message: Could you please add the death year at the bottom of the page under the headlines "Ruler of Abu Dhabi" and "President of the United Arab Emirates". It should say 2004-2022 in both places. 194.69.14.132 (talk) 11:22, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: – NJD-DE (talk) 11:31, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 13 May 2022 

message: On the second paragraph, second line, the second sentence starts "When Zayed on 2 November 2004," and should say "When Zayed died on 2 November 2004"
Albiewrtr (talk) 23:48, 15 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  missing word 

message: He wrote several. How about a list? 2601:647:5801:F6D0:783A:8A86:1B9F:ACFE (talk) 07:36, 19 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Books