Talk:List of Disney Channel original films

message: I have fully protected this page for two days. I see lots of reverting but I don't see any attempt by either side to come to the talk page and explain why they are adding/reverting. Lay out your reasoning here, please. Several of you, who have been here long enough to know better, are way over WP:3RR. Remember that edit warring is against the rules even when you think you are right. -- MelanieN (talk) 03:45, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Except for the part where I went to the editor's talk page, and requested they explain their changes here. Which they have refused to do. As per WP:BURDEN, the rest of us don't have to explain the added content – the "adder" does. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 03:52, 17 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected 

message: was stargirl a disney channel original? Mattchew2112 (talk) 23:34, 30 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disney Movies not on list 

message: This movie does not exist, it's an internet hoax, and sadly origin of it is Wikipedia, this IP edit specifically: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_Disney_Channel_original_films&diff=prev&oldid=297730358
Every other spread to the internet happened after that edit. As such I'm removing it from page.Tehonk (talk) 16:24, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The 'Disney Channel Premiere Films' are tough, because that was back then Disney Channel was basically a "Pay TV" channel like HBO, so sourcing is extremely difficult to come by (i.e. no easy way to do WP:V on them!). Thus, it would not surprise me if that was not the only hoax listed, or if some of the listed airing dates weren't flat-out wrong for some of them. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 18:18, 7 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just Like Mr. Sunny 

message: IP editor is trying to trim this list down using , but fan clubs/fan sites are not considered reliable sources. If there are incorrect entries in that list, we will need a reliable source in order to verify that – something like the Disney Channel Magazines that are mentioned in the thread above this one. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:13, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: D23 is a labeled as a fan club but it is owned and run by Disney. A bit different than fan sites owned and run by fans with no connection to the company. I would consider this an exception to the general rule of not using fan sites. Disney calls it a fan club but it is a Disney product run by Disney for the benefit of Disney fans. Content included is likely as reliable as any other content generated by Disney official outlets. Geraldo Perez (talk) 14:52, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK, will self-revert on that basis, but I personally would rather see some other sourcing to confirm this. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 14:58, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Geraldo Perez D23 should be considered reliable. And AFAIK these pages under the "Disney A to Z" section is prepared by Disney's Chief Archivist. So should be as reliable as it gets.Tehonk (talk) 04:18, 25 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disney Channel Premiere Films 

message: It's currently listed with "February 28, 1987" date, while this is indeed the US premiere date, it was actually aired in Canada years before than that. In "December 4, 1983" . How to note this in the page?Tehonk (talk) 00:35, 2 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I would leave the U.S. air date there, but you can add a 'note' via the  template, which allows you to add a note with an inline source included. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 02:36, 3 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Strange Companions'' 

message: Because Disney says so - https://d23.com/a-to-z/p-u-n-k-s-television/
User:IJBall says this needs to be discussed, apparently they think facts need discussion. So, please discuss.
98.109.143.57 (talk) 22:02, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I would like it "fact checked" by a trusted editor –  do you have any comments or thoughts on this? Thanks. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 22:03, 21 December 2021 (UTC)

text: Thanks for ping , hard to tell, kind of similar to Northern Lights, from what I can tell it was first released on video in January (and that 5 January date seems to be wrong, every contemporary source and video guide lists it with 12 January date) so, initially it had nothing to do with Disney. Disney later purchases rights to air it in fall, on September 4, 1999 (the date d23.com lists). Trying to find out if it was labeled as DCOM at that time. But question is, even if it was labeled as such in September premiere, it was first made for video and had nothing to do with Disney after all, should it be called a DCOM then? Tehonk (talk) 08:59, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  My general thought is – if it was not included in Disney's "official list" of "100 DCOMs" from 2016, then it's not a DCOM. IMDb also lists no involvement from Disney or a Disney company, and does not list it as a "TV movie". At best, it might belong under 'Notable non-Disney Channel Original Movie films' along with 16 Wishes and Harriet The Spy: Blog Wars (which also have pages at D23), but I'd want to see at least one other source on this to confirm it. But I agree with you, this is not a DCOM – it looks like D23 got this wrong (which has been my concern with this fansite the whole time: I was wondering if there were errrors...). So my vote is that it stays out of the main list. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:14, 22 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  P.U.N.K.S. = DCOM 

message: IJBall reverted my edit for an improper use of 'author' parameter in a Twitter-specific citation template. Achmad Rachmani (talk) 23:07, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Reversion was totally justified:  – as per template docs,  parameter is for  – IOW, that parameter is only to be used if it's an actual person. You were attempting to add a "non-person" as author, which you are not supposed to do: the  is wholly sufficient for these press release posts. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 23:12, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  But what is "author's real name"? Achmad Rachmani (talk) 23:23, 10 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The real name of the person – i.e. "John Doe" or "Achmad Rachmani", not "staff report" or "Disney Branded TV PR" (which is an organization, not a "person"). In other words, some cites, including tweets, will not have the need of an  parameter. The cites you tried to change at this article don't need an  filled in. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 00:22, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  |author= 

message: The Disney+ Original Movie, Prom Pact was just announced to be premiering on March 30, 2022 on Disney Channel, followed by the Disney+ release the very next day.
Should it be included in the List of Disney Channel original films? Peacerocker07 (talk) 18:44, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: If it premieres first on Disney Channel then, yes, it should be listed here. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 19:37, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Prom Pact'' 

message: Since someone added a Disney Original Movie section to this page, should Zombies 3 be on there?
It says "Disney Original Movie" at the beginning of the film and was actually the first of its kind to have that at the beginning.
@2601:246:5C81:F9D0:E19C:F338:290A:EEEF, since you added this new section, what do you think we should do? Cqntralls (talk) 04:21, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should ''[[Zombies 3]]'' be included in the [[List of Disney Channel original films#Disney Original Movies|Disney Original Movie]] section?