Talk:Abd Allah ibn Saba'

message: Although not everybody is clever enough to notice this. 
Frankly, the 'Shi'a views' section is quite unnecessary, since the whole page itself consists heavily of Shi'a views. 
Therefore, I have set my mind to erase all corruption out of this page.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Whomeyeahyou000 (talk • contribs) 18:20, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that the page contains a Shi'ite slant, but instead of deleting that section, could we insert a section for Sunnite views, then keep most of the discussion in modern views and just clean that up for POV? MezzoMezzo (talk) 09:17, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page is obviously written by a person strictly following the Shi'ite school of thought. 

message: It is very telling and significant, given the kind of fantasizing rabidly antisemitic discourse that is so pervasive in Muslim circles in the Middle East these days (as well as in the past), whether Shi-ite or Sunni, that none of the editors and commentators on this article seem to be aware that the supposedly "Jewish" derivation of the ideas attributed to Adbullah ibn Saba rests on no foundation whatsoever. Judaism has always rejected the deification of human beings, right down through the ages, for thousands of years. This is fundamental to it and is the consistent message of the Torah itself and all later Biblical and Rabbinic comnmentators and spiritual leaders. There is no debate about this. It deifies no one, for only God is God, and He is One alone, as the Shema itself (the central affirmation of Judaism) affirms. It has refused for example to deify Moses himself. That is the Rabbinic explanation for why even his burial place remains unknown down through the Biblical period (to the present). It is also the reason Jews have not accepted the Christian view that Jesus could in any sense be God incarnate, God the Son, part of a trinitarian divinity. The alleged "Jewishness" of Abdullah ibn Saba's ideology is mere ignorant fantasy, and if used to discredit any particular Muslim sect, then it demonstrates only the antisemitism of the accusers and exposes a deeper flaw and weakness in the belief system of those who use such arguments. Whether or not he himself was a Jew by birth is another matter, to be historically determined one way or another, or left undecided (obviously, even this is very much disputed), but it sheds no light on Judaism and Jewish beliefs, or wider views amongst Jews generally. Diversity is part of the human condition, and one can observe even in this article that not all Muslims embody any unitary "Islam," whatever that means, and the same is true of every other religious community. I would urge all the editors of this article to grow up.110.22.140.136 (talk) 07:55, 28 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have any proof for these claims? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 15:23, 2 December 2016 (UTC)

text: Which claims? There are several given in my comment above.110.22.140.136 (talk) 10:24, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antisemitism is gratuitous, irrelevant and in fact entirely unjustified 

message: All I wanted to add his Shia background to the infobx and it was well sourced but it came out wrong as I was unable to add the school of thought tradition section Emir knows what I am talking about. ShaniAli1lo (talk) 17:35, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Well if you had actually looked at the individual infobox instead of saying that other stuff exists, then you would have noticed that the infobox here is Template:Infobox person but on Ka'ab al-Ahbar it is Template:Infobox philosopher. No school of thought parameter exists on this infobox, and different infoboxes can vary in parameters. As per Wikipedia:RfC: Religion in biographical infoboxes religion was removed from the infobox used on this article, so we can't add that either. Is there anything else you would like to add to this article? Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:53, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

text: My edit is reasonable I have provided several references all of which are not sectarian in nature that refer to Saba as a "supporter of ali", "initiator of Shia sect" and a Shia I am willing to compromise and add it to school of thought/tradition section on Infobox not unreasonable at all. ShaniAli1lo (talk) 17:48, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please see above. Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 17:53, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: School_tradition is available it is also used on Kaabs page for his sunni background. ShaniAli1lo (talk) 17:58, 26 August 2017 (UTC)

text: If religion is not allowed why is it on Kaabs page? ShaniAli1lo (talk) 18:01, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is not available on the infobox used here. This page uses Infobox person but that other page uses Infobox philosopher. It is not that religion is allowed on one page or the other but rather the infobox as per Wikipedia:RfC: Religion in biographical infoboxes. -- Emir of Wikipedia (talk) 18:20, 26 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  infobox school of thought