Talk:Lowell High School (San Francisco)/A 20080207

message: The section is highly op/ed than NPOV.  Although the Albertson's stock information was cited, it has no phyiscal/actual value to the validity of the statement, nor to the section.  It should be removed immediately.--jamesontaiTalk 16:31, 21 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Vending Machine Theories

message: Why was all mention of the Computer and Geology clubs removed?  If the clubs are defunct, say so, but removing mentions and links to their still-active websites seems unnecessary. --Tony SidawayTalk 23:56, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Computer and Geology clubs

message: Is the Matt Cheng Foundation really a club? I think there's someone on ASB named Matt Cheng, but I don't think he has a club. Can anyone confirm/deny? -- Jjjsixsix (t)/(c) @ 04:09, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Matt Cheng Foundation

message: I found an inconsistency with this page in that it states that Lowell is the oldest high school west of the Mississippi, I found the same claim on the Lincoln High School in Portland wiki entry. Does anyone know which one is technically correct? I added a comment on the Lincoln page, but it felt redundant here.Asedzie 21:59, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Oldest High School?

message: In this section there are two errors that I know of:
"1962 School moved to current campus to make room for future expansion and add a library, gymnasium and larger auditorium"
The new campus was needed because the old building had been cited for earthquake safety issues perhaps as much as decades prior the actual move.  The old campus had a library, two gyms and an auditorium which accomodated the entire student body.
AND:
"1966 Enrollment limited, school switched from neighborhood to GPA/test based admission"
This is wrong.  I was Lowell class of '62, and it was still GPA/test based admission while I was attending.  There was the same old controversy while I was there about that being unfair to minorities, and there were occasional ballot initiatives to get it changed, which I am sure can be verified.  However, at that time, when the numbers were run, I think Lowell probably had a more balanced student body than any other high school in the City.
Unless they switched from undistricted for the first four years in the new location, this is just wrong.
Zlama 09:25, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical Milestones section error 

message: "Among other academic organizations at Lowell, the Academic Decathlon remains at the top as 17-year State Championship county qualifier and has been undefeated as City Champions of San Francisco since the inception of the competition."
In recent years, the school's Academic Decathlon team has had no opposition from other schools in San Francisco. Their qualifying competition (between the school's A and B teams, and strictly a formality) has been held in Contra Costa County. I don't know for how long this has been true, but I feel this should be mentioned. Without more information, I don't know how to edit this section without sounding bitter. Their team does quite well at State, after all; I believe they were fourth in their division in 2006. I just feel glorification of the team should reflect those actual results, and not potentially misleading county-level results. 128.12.95.59 07:42, 1 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Academic Decathlon 

message: I see a number of issues which may factor into a GA evaluation: 
#Writing: Auto Peer Review reveals a number of problem areas relative to the GA criteria.  There are a number of lists (Mod system table, milestones, facilities) which could be rewritten and/or integrated into other sections.  Would the milestones list make for a better history section if rewritten into prose? Structure could be finessed, should the Mod System section fall under academics? Perhaps separate the Academics and Admissions? The lead is simply far too short, it fails to succintly summarize the article.
#References: many sections and assertions aren't sufficiently referenced.  Some of the notables that do not establish their relation to Lowell in their subject articles are unreferenced/unverifiable as well.  
#Coverage: Is the detail on the Modular System really necessary? A succinct description and a reference to the school website on the Mods may be sufficient.
#Images: it certainly needs more (where did the few it had go?) but this isn't a deciding factor for the nom.
– Zedla 11:07, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Article nomination 

message: I had to fail the GA nomination for this article:
*Lacks any pictures.
*Usage of words like "ghettoized".
*Frequent run-on sentences in the "Academics and Admissions" section.
*Lack of wikilinking for terms like "Chinese American", "African American", etc.
*Claims in the "Academics and Admissions" need better inline referencing.
*Overuse of subsections in the "Extracurriculars" section.
Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 05:43, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA nomination failed 

message: When the Hayes Street campus (the "old Lowell") was still in use, the student body was very much integrated/desegrated.  If you were white and not Jewish, you were very much in the minority.  There were plenty of Hispanic, Black and Asian students.  I don't know the percentage of the student body, but I'd guess at least half.  We had a Black Student Body President (Ron Stratton, IIRC) when I was a sophomore.  We had an Hispanic Head Cheer Leader (as opposed to Song Girl) one year.  These were both elective offices.
The admission process did not discriminate.  The school was centrally located, so everyone had a long bus ride, unless they lived in the Haight.  When Lowel moved out to Eucalyptus Drive, it would have been a 90 minute trip for kids from Chinatown, the Fillmore, the Marina etc.  That was much more of a point of discrimination than the admission process.  Of course, the demographics changed to favor the students who lived nearby and to make it all but impossible for those from across the City to attend.  
Anyway, my point being that to talk of racial discrimination as a function of the admissions process is misleading.Zlama 06:02, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy - Racial desegregation 

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replies: text: reverted, you or anyone else can also fix future occurrences, take a look at Cleaning Up Vandalism.— Zedla 05:29, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:LHSseal2.jpg

message: As a Lowell JROTC graduate, it's not easy for me to say this, but to preserve the article's integrity as well as noting Lowell's failed Good Article nomination reasons, the JROTC Competition results (however impressive) do need to come off of the article.  Perhaps the San Francisco JROTC Program could have an article on the brigade (especially when the brigade will collapse following the end of the JROTC program in San Francisco).  Lowell's stats can be entered in addition to the other high schools' stats as well.  I think it will be more suited and will help Lowell's article get back on GA track.  - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 08:34, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: New sandbox for future article San Francisco JROTC Brigade  I'm actually kind of surprised no one has responded to this yet... - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 08:58, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sometimes people don't really respond to threads. But, I think it should (stay?), because this year we got 1st place in drum corps, but I'm not sure whether it's necessary for both articles, I mean, if someone wants to do research on which school's better, then well do it. —BoL 01:57, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposing the removal of JROTC competition results 

message: President Bush will be going to Lowell today to present 18-year-old Richard Berwick, a current Lowell student, with the President's Volunteer Service Award.  Is anyone writing about this?
ABC7 coverage on news topic
- Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 04:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Dang, that's sweet! That kid's parents must be proud of him! Maybe we should write about it. But, let's see what Kurykh thinks, we don't have any of that over at Galileo (yes, we got people doing stuff here.) —BoL 04:25, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, let him know for me.  I'm wondering if I should make a recording of a stable version of this article soon for the Spoken Wikipedia thingy.  - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 04:37, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He probably won't show up as much. College papers! And maybe you should, depending on how you sound... —BoL 05:15, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I'll try it out after my various festivities in the next couple of days... including my own little festivity at the moment while I rush my fluid mechanics lab reports that are due @ 8am... - Jameson L. Tai talk ♦ contribs 06:23, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lowell student in the news