Talk:Five-star rank

message: There seems to be a basic misunderstanding here that is on-going. The term "5-star rank" applies to the rank--as the title says-- not whatever insignia is used for it. Though the terminology originated with the US, it is NOT a US specific term. It is standard terminology today, not only with NATO (where it is OF-10), but around the world. It has nothing to do with "how many" stars are actually used (yes, Marshal of France uses 7 stars, but it is a 5-star rank) or if they are used at all (yes, Field Marshal is a 5-star rank). This "problem" is no different from arguing that Yellow Cabs are not really Yellow Cabs because they are orange and black in color. Yellow is the name of the company, for whatever reason. What color their cabs actually are is a completely different question. If it seems US-centric, it's because the world's military rank system is  a bit US-centric, not because the writer of the article is. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Venqax (talk • contribs) 21:23, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The reason for this basic misunderstanding, might be because this (and the other rank pages) have unclear language and almost no information regarding the use and background. Additionally, there is a general lack sources regarding this terminology. Where do you read that star-ranks are used in NATO? I have just looked through STANAG 2116 edition 5 and 6, and there is no mention of it. I also think that , is an exaggeration. As I stated above, I have only been able to find a limited amount of sources to verify that countries use this terminology. Skjoldbro (talk) 08:32, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terminology 

message: I'm confused as to why the rank of Italian Army General is included on this list - the picture of the shoulder boards very clearly shows four stars, and there's no indication that the rank is higher than a normal, 4-star general. Does anyone know if the rank is in fact equivalent and my assumption incorrect?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.2.211.250 (talk) 04:31, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The explanation is that while the concept of an n-star rank arose in the USA it has now been adopted by many sources to describe the equivalent NATO ranks and others. So for example the rank of field marshal in both the UK and Australia is a five-star rank although it has no stars at all on its insignia. Andrewa (talk) 14:39, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  I am not questioning the insignia not having 5-stars. I am questioning why the rank of General, uniquely in the Italian Army evidently, would be considered a 5-star, or NATO O-10 rank, equivalent to e.g. field marshal or general of the army. It would seem to rather be equal to General, 0-9, just like all the other countries' ranks with that title. This is reinforced by the fact that the named 0-9 rank is not really a rank, but an appointment of the O-8 rank-- General of Corps with Special Appointment.Venqax (talk) 20:36, 18 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italian General Rank 

message: There seems to be a basic misunderstanding here that is on-going. The term "5-star rank" applies to the rank--as the title says-- not whatever insignia is used for it. Though the terminology originated with the US, it is NOT a US specific term. It is standard terminology today, not only with NATO (where it is OF-10), but around the world. It has nothing to do with "how many" stars are actually used (yes, Marshal of France uses 7 stars, but it is a 5-star rank) or if they are used at all (yes, Field Marshal is a 5-star rank). This "problem" is no different from arguing that Yellow Cabs are not really Yellow Cabs because they are orange and black in color. Yellow is the name of the company, for whatever reason. What color their cabs actually are is a completely different question. If it seems US-centric, it's because the world's military rank system is  a bit US-centric, not because the writer of the article is.Venqax (talk) 21:24, 27 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terminology 

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message: The article starts with the sentence "A five-star rank is the second highest military rank in the United States" but the provided citation does not even say that. MrGoodEgg (talk) 18:20, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Five star as 2nd highest rank