Talk:Mike Mussina

message: i just spent about 2 hours completely overhauling this page, fixing grammatical errors, providing linkage to many things, removing unneccesary info. HOWEVER, this former absolute *eyesore* is far from being done, and whoever edited or wrote the page previously should stay away and not do anything else except read it.
im gonna work on integrating the trivia section into the overall article, since many of the facts in trivia either dont belong there, or are completely useless and irrelevant. but for now, while ive done enough, i just posted some stuff in the trivia to help me remember and move them at a later time.
also, ill plan on writing a little bit more in depth about each of his individual seasons, and either completely take out the "post season" subsection, or write about his postseasons in it. everything is very out of order and thrown around concerning his post seasons.
also, i took out that entire "near perfect games" section, since it was completely useless and relatively long. if we listed every near perfect game a pitcher throws, then nolan ryan, pedro martinez, roger clemens, sandy koufax, bob gibson, and many others would have 2 pages worth of the section on each of their respective wiki articles. if he pitches a no hitter or he DOES throw a perfect game, then u can add a section for it, but for now, we dont need to know about all of his "near" perfect games.
ill try and add a "personal" section (his marriage would then be moved there from the trivia section) if i can find enough stuff about his personal life.
also, im probably gonna end up completely taking out all that stuff on his football and basketball stats from high school. its completely useless to the article. hes a baseball player, if u wanna list his stats from high school list his baseball stats. u can MENTION that he played football and basketball as well if u want, but no need to go in depth about it. if he were a professional 3 sport star, then sure, go ahead and list all the stats u want. but for now, he doesnt play football, he doesnt play basketball, we dont need to know his stats of those sports from HIGH SCHOOL.
i dont know, and never have known or understood, how exactly to add references, so i decided not to add any. however, if anybody wants the references, just tell me and ill post the link here and tell u where they should be. i assure u, i have references for many of the things in this article that need them (unless of course its bullshit), but like i said, i just dont know how to add them.
i didnt clean this up a bit cuz i like the guy, being a sox fan and from boston i absolutely hate him, but i hurt my foot yesterday, so while im bedridden, ive decided to clean up the wiki pages of all the players on my fantasy team >_> 69.119.143.219 00:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: major overhaul on 7/25/07

message: Where did this term come from? Is it actually the All-Star game or something else? None of the cited sources in the article mentions any term close to it. There are no relevant Wikipedia articles about it, either. Please clarify. Thanks. Vic226 22:31, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baseball America American League All Star? 

message: I am having trouble moving the last two notes of his less-general awards (as opposed to the more commonly known Cy Young Award and Gold Glove Award) elsewhere in this article. As a list of awards (especially by years) would look more or less cumbersome, I compiled them into the lead while knowing that Baseball-America-related and Baltimore Player of the Year awards are too specific for it. Does anyone have suggestions on where to settle these awards, or is there a way to note them as explicit omissions next to the link Epeefleche provided? Vic226 05:29, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last two sentences in the lead section 

message: This line is somewhat 'biased,' and I am sure that there is a better way to write this line to make seem less like a negative fact. Lawrenceku 02:19, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "In 2005, Mussina was no longer the Yankees' ace." 

message: I worked hard and carefully on this today and someone hastilly and inconsiderately reverted. This area will tend to attract POV so we need to be vigilant. In all fairness I'm a big Mussina fan and I expect other Wikipedians to keep me in line. :) That said, I changed a lot of stuff that needed to go. 
Jdickert (talk) 00:54, 10 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That section should definitely stay. There is legitimate debate among reliable third-party sources, which is what our Wikipedia guidelines are meant to ensure. With that being said, I think certain areas of that section need to be reworked, specifically the Kurkjian quote. Not only is it unsourced, there's also a POV issue with it. For every Kurkjian, there's probably another counterpart who thinks Mussina doesn't deserve the Hall of Fame. Chengwes (talk) 16:25, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hall of Fame Debate

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