Talk:Borax

message: Why is it stated that borax is NOT acutely toxic? In the source, it is clearly stated that there is acute toxicity.   User:random user (talk) 08:01, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The source for that claim is http://pesticideinfo.org/Detail_Chemical.jsp?Rec_Id=PC34355.  On that webpage under the heading Summary Toxicity Information it summarizes the Acute Toxicity as "Not Acutely Toxic".  -- Ed (Edgar181) 12:57, 26 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toxicity of borax 

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message: Why is there a picture captioned "Borax 'cottonball'" when there is nothing in the text explaining what a 'borax cottonball' is? rowley (talk) 22:56, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Explanatory text added to body from file description page. Captainllama (talk) 17:01, 19 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Borax 'Cottonball'? 

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message: Hello,
I've noticed pages about the same subject on non-English Wikipedia here:
https://zh.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/硼砂
It is in Chinese as well as some other languages if you click the language button.
So the same topic seems to be split into 2 disjoint groups of pages by language, and these 2 groups cannot reach each other.  Is it a defect?
Michael  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.171.88.93 (talk) 04:48, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Languages 

message: Please remove the mention of sodium tetraborate as a component of TBE buffer. TBE, originally suggested by Peacock and Dingman in 1967, does not contain sodium tetraborate, it contains  tris, boric acid (H3BO3) and EDTA disodium salt. This is also true for more recent versions, such as HTBE, suggested by Anderson in 1981. The amount of sodium ion supplied by EDTA in TBE is only 1/100th of the borate ion, which does not make it a "sodium-borate buffer". Thus the phrase "Sodium borate is used in biochemical and chemical laboratories to make buffers, e.g. for gel electrophoresis of DNA, such as TBE or the newer SB buffer or BBS (borate buffered saline) in coating procedures." should be replaced by "Borate ion (commonly supplied as boric acid) is used in biochemical and chemical laboratories to make buffers, e.g. for gel electrophoresis of DNA and RNA, such as TBE buffer (borate buffered tris-hydroxymethylaminomethonium)[Peacock AC, Dingman CW. Resolution of multiple ribonucleic acid species by polyacrylamide gel electrophoresis. Biochemistry (1967) volume 6(6):1818-27. Anderson S. Shotgun DNA sequencing using cloned DNase I-generated fragments. Nucleic Acids Research (1981) Volume 9 (13): 3015-3027 Nucleic Acid Electrophoresis, D. Tietz, ed., Springer-Verlag  (1998) or the newer SB buffer or BBS (borate buffered saline) in coating procedures."   Orthogon88 (talk) 13:56, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. — Train2104 (t • c) 05:44, 24 March 2017 (UTC)

text: Done.  Thanks  for the keen spot and well-informed fix.  Adrian J. Hunter(talk•contribs) 13:08, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
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message: It states, under toxicity, that such and such was first registered by the EPA in 1946.
The EPA was founded under Nixon in 1970!!!
Somebody should clean that up.
Philologick (talk) 08:45, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Erroneous statement: EPA did not exist then! 

message: The article makes clear that while related, borax and boric acid are not the same thing.
However, the entire last paragraph of toxicity is solely related to issues with boric acid not borax. 
The penultimate paragraph does discuss exposure to borax which seems quite appropriate but it isn't clear to me that the discussion of boric acid belongs in this article. What do others think?S Philbrick(Talk) 21:09, 22 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  A paragraph to be considered for removal 

message: The formula mentioned in the chemistry section here (Na2[B4O5(OH)4].10H2O) does not match the one given under the properties section on the right (Na2[B4O5(OH)4].8H2O)...
i had changed the one in the chemistry section a few minutes ago to the one with 8H2O but going through the past edits shows that someone had probably changed it from 8 to 10 in the past saying that no octahydrated form exists for this compound. So, i have reverted my own edit.
i am not sure which one is correct-i am no expert in chemistry-but 8H2O can be found at chemspider (http://www.chemspider.com/Chemical-Structure.17625711.html). So, i think someone with who knows this compound better to have a look and suggest an edit. Thanks!175.100.159.56 (talk) 05:50, 13 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chemical formula 

message: The Article listed for the following, "The country's Directorate of Consumer Protection warns of the risk of liver cancer with high consumption over a period of 5–10 years.[25]" does not contain any risk assumptions or assessment. 
Instead it flat out claims "Formaline and Borax in five – ten year term will cause on liver cancer disease for those in frequent concumption ;"
No other information regarding liver cancer or the claim that Borax causes it is present.
The word use of 'Risk' is incorrect, provided the source, and the source is rather stark and desolate of any other information regarding Borax and a link to Liver Cancer.
2600:6C64:7008:100:19C0:1382:75C3:7AFF (talk) 21:40, 18 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indonesian Source [25] Incomplete or misleading 

message: How would you make elemental boron from crystal sodium tetraborate using house hold means? If you can that is. Thanks! UB Blacephalon (talk) 04:09, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boron 

message: I have seen "Borax Substitute" on sale, but with no description of what it actually is.
Please can someone knowledgeable add this information to the article ?
And the reason why it would be substituted ?
Many thanks ! Darkman101 (talk) 14:30, 16 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Borax Substitute 

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No reference given the LD50 that is stated:
"Its LD50 (median lethal dose) score is tested at 2.66 g/kg in rats, meaning that a significant dose of the chemical is needed to cause severe symptoms or death" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Borax#Toxicity
LD50 reported by USA EPA in 1969 is 4.55-6.05g/kg in male rats https://www3.epa.gov/pesticides/chem_search/cleared_reviews/csr_PC-011102_1-Aug-69_002.pdf
, and later reported in 1972 found by toxicology study to be 4.5g/kg https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0041008X72900373.
: It would be good for you to sign your posts. That said: Go ahead and put this information in the article, with the cites. --Kent G. Budge (talk) 16:36, 3 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toxicity of Borax - LD50 

message: The chemical name doesn't have any B in it, and the diagram doesn't show any Na. What's correct? cbdorsett (talk) 08:49, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diagram seems off 

message: The following paragraph seems to suggest (possibly unintentionally) that consumption of boric acid and/or borax (it’s unclear if it’s either or both) can decrease one’s risk of “various types of” cancer. However, its source suggests the opposite, and it is specific to liver cancer. 
I believe the wording should be changed for accuracy, and also clarity. Further, if this passage is referring to another manifestation of boric acid, rather than borax specifically, it should probably be removed entirely. I do not have the  knowledge or qualifications to assess its validity or relevance directly, but thought the mixed up wording should at least be addressed. 
The portion I’m referring to is in the last paragraph in the “Uses” section:
>When consumed with boric acid, numerous studies have demonstrated a negative association between borax and various types of cancers. SilverXnoise (talk) 23:09, 28 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading and confusing language regarding liver cancer