Talk:Bhutto family

message: I know about the native village of Bhutto family in India. Many people who use to go abroad or far away from their own native village uses the village name as their last name. There are many examples of such use of last name driven from native village.
So Bhatto family also used the name of their native village as their last name. 
But soon after Bhatto family became political star in Sindh. A flux of multitude migrated from India to Pakistan. However, local people gave them different despised names like as Panahgeer.
When political star family saw that they would be fallen in same category of Panahgeer.They changed spelling of Bhatto to Bhutto. A ready-made terminology was introduced to Sindhi people that Bhutto is actually driven from Bhutta. Yes Bhutta is really one of the native cast living in Punjab province. But Question is this is there only one Bhutta family came from Punjab who called themselves Bhutto?
And is he only Sir. Shahnawaz as the first Bhutta person who came in Sindh?
If you see Bhutto history in Sindh it start from Sir. Shahnamwaz Bhutto to Fatima Bhutto. THe lape of time between Sir. Shahnawaz Bhutto to Fatima Bhutto might be less then 100 years. Does it means that Bhutto tribe came into existence within 100 years only?
It is obviously wrong. It can be right only in one condition that Bhutto is not a tribe but it is newly adopted last name by some family. So Bhutto family used as same. Ghayyour 21:06, 18 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The Witness of Bhatto Kalan

message: This tree is not within the scope of the WikiProject Biography and has thus been removed from the project.  See WP:BIO for more information about the project.  Within scope would be articles on individual members of the family provided that they are newsworthy.  C. Williams (talk) 20:47, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Scope of WikiBio

message: some of Bhutto (tribe) was merged here, the duplication was not, as it was already here. 70.51.8.110 (talk) 07:41, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  mergefrom [[Bhutto (tribe)]] 

message: Is there a reference for Mir Gangeiz Bhutto and his mother? I have removed him from the family tree, because it broke the family tree. Clearly not the son of Fauzia, and no line links to Murtaza either. Perhaps people should experiment with the family tree templates in the Sandbox before saving it here, since it didn't work when he was added. 70.51.9.170 (talk) 10:20, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mir Gangeiz Bhutto  

message: Currently, Bhutto goes to an article on the Bhutto clan that, truth be told, is nearly orphaned.  Sure, it appears to have lots of links to it, but only because so many people have linked Bhutto in articles that they thought were going here.  I think that the current "Bhutto" article should be moved to Bhutto (clan), and that either a) Bhutto family should be moved to Bhutto, or b) Bhutto should become a dab page. Unschool (talk) 14:53, 4 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There's Bhutto (tribe) as an option as well. 76.66.195.159 (talk) 12:20, 25 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move 

message: I oppose merging the article on the Bhutto tribe into an article on one family named that (and removed the tag from the article unless discussionn takes place here first).  RJFJR (talk) 13:22, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Oppose merge from [[Bhutto]]

message: It beggars belief that there are still those who persist with the entirely false claim that the Bhuttos are Arains (and at the very least, when this is such a point of contention, trying to pass off such fanciful claims as fact, is highly problematic); the following is being re-quoted from a previous discussion dealing with this issue:
“...Benazir Bhutto herself, categorically stated in her autobiography that she is descended from Rajputs, and her biographer and close friend, Shyam Bhatia went on record to state that Benazir took pride in her Rajput ancestry. Here, I’ll even reproduce the exact quote:
"But Pinky always took pride in her Rajput ancestry and said it was only during war that India and Pakistan hated each other. But in peace, they liked each other."
See: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/rssarticleshow/msid-3061556,prtpage-1.cms
"Two main Rajput tribes of Sind are: the Samma, a branch of the Yadav Rajputs who inhabit the eastern and lower Sind and Bahawalpur; and the Sumra who, according to the 1907 edition of the Gazetteer are a branch of the Parwar Rajputs. Among others are the Bhuttos, Bhattis, Lakha, Sahetas, Lohanas, Mohano, Dahars, Indhar, Chachar, Dhareja, Rathors, Dakhan, Langah etc."
http://ppiusindh.org/hyderabad-sindh-district-of-sindh-pakistan.html
"Bhutto: Perhaps the most famous of the Sindh Rajputs, they are a clan of the Bhatti Rajputs, and as such are Chandravanshi. They are found in Larkana District, in a cluster of villages such as Mirpur Bhutto and Salar Bhutto north of Larkana city."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sindhi_Rajputs
Refer also to the following article:
“The Bhutto clan is rajput, a word of Hindu origin, a hereditary warrior caste which dominates both Indian and Pakistani armies to this day.”
http://blai.newsvine.com/_news/2007/12/30/1193585-shah-nawaz-the-legacy-of-the-bhuttos?groupId=84
www.globalsecurity.org also carries an article on the Bhutto tribe. The following extract, is taken from this article:
“The Bhutto family traces its migration from Jaiselmere in India to Sindh to Setho Khan Bhutto in the fifteenth century AD. The Bhutto family migrated to Sindh during the reign of Mughuls when Kalhoras were ruling in Sindh under the suzerainty of Mughul Emperors. They settled and established themselves in Taluka Ratodero, District Larkana and owned vast tracts of fertile land in the District of Larkana, Jacobabad and Shikarpur. Where rice, cotton and sugarcane was produced in plant. By some accounts the Bhutto family was the biggest and wealthiest landlord in Sindh and their style of living and conducting themselves was totally different from rest of their class in Sindh; they could face any situation any adversary and dignity, and unlike many other landlords they finally believed in pomp, pageantry, dignity and authority.”
“These Rajput converts probably became Muslims in the 18th century. Doda Khan Bhutto headed of the family during the Talpur Dynasty, and then during Charles Napier's rule of Sindh. Doda Khan Bhutto worked to acquire large tracts of land, and was responsible for the vast land ownership of the Bhutto family. By one account Doda Khan Bhutto was described by the British as "the best and most enterprising zamindar in the whole of sindh". 
Even the Encyclopædia Britannica, opens its entry on Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, with the words:
"Born into a noble Rājpūt family that had accepted Islām, Bhutto was the son of a prominent political figure in the Indian colonial government."
See: http://www.britannica.com/EBchecked/topic/64265/Zulfikar-Ali-Bhutto  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gill Jat (talk • contribs) 00:57, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: DISCONTINUE FROM PERSISTENTLY PROMOTING THE FALLACY THAT BHUTTOS ARE ARAINS

message: Isn't this old version of the list better? :
* Sir Shah Nawaz Bhutto, Rajput feudal lord and politician, son of Khuda Bux Bhutto
** Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto (1928-1979), President (1971-73) and Prime Minister of Pakistan (1973-77), son of Shah Nawaz Bhutto
*** Nusrat Bhutto (born 1929), wife of Zulfikar Ali Bhutto and mother of Benazir, Murtaza, Sanam and Shahnawaz Bhutto
**** Benazir Bhutto (1953-2007), Prime Minister of Pakistan (1988-90, 1993-96)
**** Asif Ali Zardari, (born 1955) President of Pakistan (2008-present), husband of Benazir
***** Bilawal Bhutto Zardari (born 1988), son of Benazir Bhutto
***** Bakhtawar Bhutto Zardari (born 1990), daughter of Benazir Bhutto 
***** Asifa Bhutto Zardari (born 1993), daughter of Benazir Bhutto
**** Murtaza Bhutto (1954-1996), Member of Parliament of Sindh Assembly
**** Fauzia Fasihudin Bhutto, former wife of Murtaza. 
***** Fatima Bhutto (born 1982), daughter of Murtaza and Fauzia, poet, writer, and columnist
**** Ghinwa Bhutto, Pakistani politician, wife of Murtaza Bhutto
***** Zulfikar Bhutto, son of Murtaza and Ghinwa
**** Sanam Bhutto (born 1957)
**** Nasir Hussain, husband of Sanam
***** Shaharyar Hassain, son of Sanam
***** Azadi, daughter of Sanam
**** Shahnawaz Bhutto (1958-1985)
**** Rehanna Bhutto, wife of Shahnawaz
***** Sassi Bhutto (born 1982), daughter of Shahnawaz
-- 76.65.128.198 (talk) 08:49, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family list 

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