Talk:Southern hip hop

message: It should be mentioned tha souther rappers sometimes use a punchline style. What i mean by this is the way words are used. For example in Lil Wayne's song SportsCenter the song starts "I cover my track like butter so where the bread be/ i see beef as dead meat". Many southern rappers use that punchline style which emphasizes metaphors and similies.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Primetimeking (talk • contribs) 03:49, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: punchline rap

message: He may rep St. Louis, but his lyrical and production style shares several similarities with Southern Rap, as does his dialect and slang, as well and his “errr”  pronunciation with words. In his music videos, he has made references to St .Louis as the “Derrty” (which refers to the Dirty South). Even his debut album is called “Country” Grammer. If you Google “Nelly” and “South”, you’ll understand my point. Unlike other forms of music, Hip Hop genres are not determined by geographic location, but style. Clispe, for example,  despite being based from Virginia (generally considered a Southern state) have cited Mobb Deep and Gangstarr as their inspirations, and have even defined themselves as “East Coast” rappers in their interviews. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chubdub (talk • contribs) 21:01, 3 January 2006
: From Nelly's allmusic.com entry:
::He wasn't from the East or West Coast, and wasn't really from the Dirty South, either. Rather, Nelly was from St. Louis, a Midwestern city halfway between Minneapolis and New Orleans. His locale certainly informed his rapping style, which was as much country as urban, and his dialect as well, which was, similarly, as much Southern drawl as Midwestern twang. Plus, Nelly never shied away from a pop-rap approach, embracing a singalong vocal style that made his hooks incredibly catchy.
:I think it's fair to say that Nelly's not a Southern rapper in the common use of that term. | Klaw ¡digame! 23:41, 3 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nelly is a Southern rapper 

message: Since I'm not an expert on the Rap music scene, I don't know if it's worth saving or not, but the Music of South Florida article is being nominated for deletion. Any input from experts in the southern rap scene would be welcome at Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Music_of_South_Florida#.5B.5BMusic_of_South_Florida.5D.5D</br>  
Thanks! Dreadlocke  ☥  17:13, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Music of South Florida AfD

message: First of all St. Louis has little in common with Atlanta, and is def. defined as a midwestern city. Second, rap from big label artists hailing from Atlanta are different culturally from the inner city rap which can be heard on local radio stations and get the air play in the city of Atlanta. Memphis, Atlanta, New Orleans, and Florida rap style variate in accents and lyrical content. Atlanta rap tends to be flashy with praise the praise of selling drugs and material things, known as the "Trap" and have thick southern accents with particular pronounciations on such words such can't would be pronounced "cain't". T and D are often pronounced heavily stressed. Snap music is simply from one part of Atlanta but does not represent the whole community. Memphis has a very serious and maleviolent tone of rap. Using criminal references and threatening lyrics with tones of cathcy rythms and influences of Blues in its music. Musical beats tend to have a anger like feel to them. Accents differ from Atlanta not by much. They are still thick of southern venacular but the vowels in words such as here or beer are pronounced hurr, burr with a slight faint of the vowel. New Orleans rap is all about the jewels, the clique, the glorious praise of the individual rapping. Accents are very unique and easily distinguished from Memphis or Atlanta, a loose a is added to the end of words and once again the urr is presents. Juveniles pronounciation of store would be "sto-yay". Florida can show many faces in Hip Hop since florida has little state culture due to man residents being from other parts of the country. Accents can differ from resembling that of an Atlantan's as trick daddy, to barely no accent at all. Florida hip hop is more of a dance type. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.99.142.106 (talk) 23:35, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Southern Rap 

message: Why is there an enormous section about Yvonne McElveen? This doesn't at all seem necessary and gives a huge amount of emphasis to one person not given throughout the rest of the article. In addition, it's not Wikified. I deleted it but it was re-added. Cwilli201 05:34, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Yvonne Section

message: I put that in there because southern artist barrows some of they sounds from them.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.100.217 (talk) 00:33, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: West Coast hip hop

message: What about Stat Quo and Bobby Creek? 
They're from Atlanta, aren't they? They should be added. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dlae (talk • contribs) 14:45, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shady? 

message: Please see WP:CITE about this issue:
The proper response to an article that overall lacks citations is to add an unreferenced tag, like so:
The proper response to a statement that is controversial and needs a citation is to add a fact tag, like so:  
The proper response is NOT to blank the whole page. 
I quote WP:CITE:
If an article has no references, and you are unable to find them yourself, you can tag the article with the template , so long as the article is not nonsensical or a biography of a living person, in which case request admin assistance. If a particular claim in an article lacks citation and is doubtful, consider placing  after the sentence or removing it. Consider the following in deciding which action to take:
1. If a claim is doubtful but not harmful to the whole article or to Wikipedia, use the  tag, but remember to go back and remove the claim if no source is produced within a reasonable time.
2. If a claim is doubtful and harmful, you should remove it from the article; you may want to move it to the talk page and ask for a source, unless you regard it as very harmful or absurd, in which case it should not be posted to a talk page either. Use your common sense.
This page is not harmful to Wikipedia, is not nonsensical, and is not a "biography of a living person". It should not be blanked. If it is blanked again, that would be just plain edit warring WP:EDITWAR. 
lk (talk) 18:31, 11 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proper response to lack of citations 

message: To be blunt, this article sucks.  The first section is fine, but the "Regional Scenes" section is an unreferenced disaster, and the "Notable Musicians" section refers to 4 categories that don't exist.  As an example, the "Miami, Florida" subsection links to one other WP article that doesn't mention Florida at all.  The whole section is filled with POV statements that could never be verified.
I'm going to make a fairly large change, removing this section and cleaning up the "Notable Musicians" section.  Someone more familiar with the material should fill in some actual notable musicians along with some references. -- BillWeiss | Talk 18:05, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs work 

message: How is Houston not fully mentioned in the article? If it is somewhere else and I missed it and this is all a waste then sue me. However, Houston not being represented is like telling half the story. I am sure it has been documented by scholars and if it has not it should be. Houston hip hop reflects the soul and history of the south as well as the entire nation. Laboris Gloria Ludi. Houston rap should be represented in a scholarly manner. I am not profound in Wikipedia so I ask for help.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Universe0707! (talk • contribs) 05:44, 26 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Houston 

message: I think we should start reworking this article. We need to come up with a coherent outline. I propose the following sections:
History/Origins
Characteristics
Regional Styles/Artists/Movements
   -Atlanta
   -New Orleans
   -Houston & Dallas
   -Tennessee
   -Miami
Influence  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Alexo Andros (talk • contribs) 19:23, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Article Needs an Overhaul 

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