Talk:Feral pig

message: -- The video from Arizona seems to possibly represent peccaries rather than feral hogs. Supporting this is peccaries tend to herd. Is there confirmation of the exact animal type in the video?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.125.163.41 (talk) 23:42, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Good catch. I edited it to say "one of the only" instead of just "only". (Cardsplayer4life 06:23, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: but "one of the only" doesn't actually mean anything 193.63.239.165 16:00, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

text: I believe it has to do with either their spine or the hairs growing along the length of it being raised into a ridge along their back, sort of like a natural mohawk.--Beetfarm Louie 17:33, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  This page is almost a duplicate of the wild boar page. Also because the feral pig and the wild boar are technically the same animal (both are Sus scrofa) feel like these pages should be combined. This article is lacking citations. It could also flow and and be better organized. This is an okay source of information on the subject matter though.CougarWebb (talk) 13:19, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I wonder if CougarWebb has actually looked at the article, Wild Boar?  It is very different from this article.  There is almost no duplication between the two.  While the Eurasian wild boar and the American (and presumably the Australian) feral pig are classified as belonging to the same species, their histories are quite different.  J. D. Crutchfield | Talk 18:24, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  The pages should be combined is my point and the histories be taken and separated out. You said it yourself that they are the same species. If they are the same species then they should be on the same page and just have their own little section explaining the different histories. CougarWebb (talk) 03:50, 23 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Miscellaneous

message: I find it very hard to believe that a wild pig can be nine feet long and 1000 pounds.  Karl Dickman talk 03:52, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That does sound implausible. I found this reference  on MSNBC that says 12 feet and 1000 lbs, but there is decidedly little evidence except for one photo. Another reference is this one  from about.com which mentions an 8 foot, 800 lb one, but again, little supporting evidence is available. I added these two references and changed the wording of the sentence to say "reportedly" to show some sort of ambiguity, but it still seems a bit fishy to me. (Cardsplayer4life 04:54, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fifty years ago or so, I visited my great uncle’s farm.  He had razorback hogs.  They were huge, easily twice the height at the shoulder of a common hog, and twice the length.  They had a sagital rise on their spine that might have been a foot or more tall.  They had a dinosaur-like look.  Uncle warned us not to sit on their fence.  If we fell in, they would kill us, he said.  I recall a weight of half a ton.  Though, I do not remember where I heard that.  My Flatley (talk) 11:46, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Size

message: there is a lot of stuff in here that is uncited, and I don't know what's what.  Can boars really fly through the air?  Was the Hogzilla really a razorback?  These are important questions
The line about Dimebag using the Dean Razorback guitar should be deleted. He designed it, but he was killed before they could deliver the final prototype to him. He never used it in concert or on any recordings.
124.181.140.1 (talk) 06:09, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  cleanup 

message: Hello, in the last part of the intro, it talks about a mythological boar as being the possible origin of the name "razorback". I looked around and found an article on Gullinbursti, which is apparently a boar with a glowing mane... but the article mentions nothing about razor-sharp spines. In any case, the spelling is very different from "razorback" or the "glo-so" mentioned in this article. Does anybody know if this etymology is correct? --Kyoko 15:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norse mythology? 

message: With all this confusion on the origins of razorback or "feral" hogs, doesn't it seem likely that these pigs, though some could be hybrids, may actually be indigenous to North America?  That Sus Scrofa could've crossed the Bering Strait like so many Eurasion species, and could've been an inhabitant of grasslands, like the red fox, maintaining the plains from encroaching seedlings, and only spread throughout the continent in the wake of deforested areas.  It's possible.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.202.135.128 (talk) 03:20, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any article, or document putting forth this proposal? The European colonists did not see any wild pigs in North America. Why else would they go through the trouble of introducing them?Mariomassone (talk) 18:38, 23 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unconsidered Possibility 

message: This article defines the Razorback as "feral". However the article on Feral defines it as follows: A feral organism is one that has escaped from domestication and returned, partly or wholly, to a wild state.
Wild Boar (so presumably Razorbacks) do not meet this definition. They are the wild population from which domestic pigs were domesticated in the first place, not domesticated pigs returned to a wild state. Merlin Cox (talk) 18:33, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you have a good point, but I also suspect it may be a complicated mix. Wild boar and domesticated pigs can freely interbreed, and both have been released/escaped into the wild at various times.92.18.67.254 (talk) 22:55, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, and have changed the lead accordingly. I've also removed some dubious alternative names - if I'm wrong about any of them can someone please reinsert relevant ones. Obscurasky (talk) 00:10, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the terms Feral Swine, Wild Pig, Feral Hog, and Wild Pig are all different classifications of the Feral Pig. Different state Department of Natural Resource agencies have them classified under a different name because there is no real official name established yet. Some states that have different classifications are Michigan, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Alabama just to name a few. CougarWebb (talk) 20:02, 13 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Please try to remember this is a global project.  Your suggestion is very US-centric.  Here in the UK, the term "hog" is hardly ever used, let alone "Feral hog".  The term "Wild pig" is hardly ever used, nor is the term "Feral swine".  The most widely used terms in the UK I suspect are "Feral pig" and "Wild boar". DrChrissy (talk) 19:32, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with DrChrissy, this is a global project.  Here in Australia the term "feral pigs" is the most commonly used term in any of the shooting magazines I've seen.  Razorback is almost unheard of here and I think most here would consider it an American term. --Dmol (talk) 21:29, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Dmol.  I actually lived in Australia for 12 years from 1980.  I remember hearing the term "razorback", but my interpretation was that it meant a particularly large, aggressive individual, usually male, rather than a frequently used collective term for feral pigs. DrChrissy (talk) 21:51, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: That was about the same time that the film Razorback happened, and I think that led to a brief time when the term was used.--Dmol (talk) 22:03, 21 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I was going to mention that.  And of course, I have been back in the UK for 26 years and useage changes. I'm sure yours is a much more recent appreciation of the term. DrChrissy (talk) 22:08, 21 June 2016 (UTC)

text: On the subject of global scope... When I searched for razorback, the very last thing I would ever expect to find is an article about pigs, wild or otherwise. I was even more surprised that this would be the destination of a redirect for that word. Well, I guess I learned something. But what I was expecting to find was a geographic-geologic-topographic article about a kind of "ridge trail" where one must hike along a narrow razorback ridge with steeply falling away slopes on both sides. That is the one and only use of the word razorback I have ever encountered before today. 70.27.171.169 (talk) 14:59, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Feral or Wild 

message: I think someone needs to add the environmental implications of the introduction and continual population growth of Razorbacks to the Americas. So far there's just a tiny sentence about it being an invasive species in Brazil. In some parts of North America, wild hogs are becoming a big problem. 67.190.163.77 (talk) 01:04, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Environmental Concerns?

message: I'm not sure the lede is totally accurate. Is a Razorback a specific 'type' of pig? My understanding is that the word is an Americanism, applied to any type of wild hog.  Obscurasky (talk) 21:44, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You are correct. Usually it means a feral pig most closely related to the domestic pig, but the term is often applied to any type of wild hog. Steven Walling 23:56, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed the lede, but I think it needs building on. Would someone authoritative on the subject care to add someting. Thx. Obscurasky (talk) 15:42, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Better definition required 

message: A requested move concerning Boar (disambiguation) and :Boar is being discussed now at Talk:Boar (disambiguation). 69.3.72.9 (talk) 19:31, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boar (disambiguation) 

message: Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Template:Pigs. 69.3.72.9 (talk) 20:06, 12 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Navigation box for pigs 

message: There are discussions in progress on Talk:Pig (disambiguation) and Talk:Pig which affect this page.  Please participate there (not here).  Thank you. 69.3.72.249 (talk) 20:56, 13 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pig disambiguation 

message: What is this word, and what does it refer to?  In context in the article as it stands, it means "Wild Boar/Domestic Pig cross", but the word itself is a combination of the spanish word for peccary (Javalina) and the Spanish word for pig (Porco), which, it has been pointed out, is very far-fetched as the two aren't even in the same family, although a non-expert could be forgiven for thinking that they should be able to cross, looking like two types of pig on the face of them.  My guess is that it's a Spanish word for a mythical Peccary/Pig cross.  I've Googled around for the word, and can find nothing to convince me personally that the word even exists.  Let's get rid of it!  Chrisrus (talk) 04:50, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  javaporcos? 

message: The video featured in this article is not of feral hogs, but of collared peccaries (javelinas). These are wild (not feral) and native to Arizona (the video is from Scottsdale) and they are not a member of the family Suidae.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bfdavised (talk • contribs) 20:54, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Javelina 

message: I have changed the redirect for "Feral pig" from the non-existent "Wild boar#feral pig" to this article.  Apparently somebody (properly, in my opinion) deleted the "Feral pig" section from "Wild boar", but forgot to change the redirect.
I, too, would support moving this article to "Feral pig".  I don't know enough to make a scientific argument for that, but my understanding of the history is that razorbacks are overwhelmingly descended from domestic swine that have run wild over the generations, thanks to the old practice of open-range culture; and that any admixture of European wild boar is incidental.  There are wolf packs with some admixture of domestic dog, and probably packs of feral dogs with some admixture of wolf;  but I don't think anybody has suggested that that obliterates the distinction between wolves and dogs.  No more should the occasional admixture of wild boar into razorback populations obliterate the distinction between European wild boar and American feral swine.  Neither should the colloquial usage of referring to American feral swine as "wild boar" obliterate that distinction.  They are historically different races or breeds, if not taxonomically distinct species, and Wikipedia should recognize the distinction.
J. D. Crutchfield | Talk 15:36, 28 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  The term "Razorback" is colloquial and used widely only in Australia and North America.  This article is also extremely American-oriented.  Therefore, I suggest we have two options.  One - the article is moved to American Feral Pig with a STRONG statement in the article that due to regional differences in language, this includes both the domestic pig and the wild boar. (There is already an article Australian feral camel.) Second, information in this article on feral domestic pigs could be merged into the Feral pig article and the remaining information moved to Free-ranging wild boar or something similar.  Whichever, the title of "Razorback" should not be allowed to remain.__DrChrissy (talk) 11:08, 30 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect from "Feral pig"; More support for moving to "Feral pig" 

message: I tried to clean up any uncited information I could find as well as any misspellings. I added citations for any "citation needed" tags I could find. I removed a few sentences that were irrelevant to the subject being discussed. I added 3 sentences of new information of my own with citations and hyperlinks. Any and all feedback would be welcome Ntayl23 (talk) 06:24, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, but they weren't "misspellings", they were just not US spellings.  But there's no clear indication which of the UK/US spellings were there first so I won't change it.--Dmol (talk) 11:43, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contributions 

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message: And once again, a "semiprotected" wikipedia article is full of bullshit. The line "Texas has the largest estimated population of 2.5–2.6 million feral pigs existing in 253 of its 254 counties" sources to a webpage that does not contain that number or any such claim.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.7.105.123 (talk) 13:44, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Texas 

message: Why do feral pigs so quickly regain the fur that their domestic ancestors lack completely? Natural selection? Sexual selection? Steinbach (talk) 07:45, 8 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that this should be mentioned in the article. As it is, it's confusing to have only pictures of hairy pigs in an article about escaped hairless pigs. This return of fur and tusks is a very interesting phenomenon, and the absence of any mention of it is confusing. I've seen Reddit and Quora discussions give handwavy, unsourced explanations involving epigenetics, but I had hoped to find something a bit more definite here on Wikipedia. Amaurea (talk) 01:02, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fur 

message: From the Hunting in the United States section:
> It will dip, duck, dive, and dodge the tusks until it can get a hold of the beast, pinning it or biting its ear.
This is a clear reference to the movie Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story, missing only the fifth "d" of dodgeball (defeat) in the description of a catch dogs behavior towards feral pigs. It is unsupported by the citations provided for the article and should be removed or replaced with a more accurate description.
:Removed; that was one of two passages added on 30 Jan 2021 with non-encyclopedic language (e.g. "incredible amounts of damage", and the dodgeball-influenced phrasing). Plantdrew (talk) 02:30, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catch dogs are not playing dodgeball during feral pig hunts