Talk:Absolute monarchy

message: Does anyone else think the examples section is NPOV? It reads like a freshman or high school paper, overall, and a biased one at that. "X was a successful absolute monarch" is not how an encyclopedic article should look. Nach0king 01:24, 20 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that some of the interpretation is a bit one-sided, and it would probably be a good idea to take out the assessments of the competence of various absolute monarchs. For instance, while Louis XIV may have been successful at ring power in his lifetime, some historians contend that the financial extravagance and political system he established laid the foundations for the French monarchy's collapse. I think it's worth mentioning that however competent some absolute monarchs may have been, their achievements are often undone by their successors, or by a changing politico-economic climate. 
For me, the main problem with the "examples" section is the un-encyclopedic quality of the language. I think some bits should be rewritten, but don't delete it per se.
By the way, I deleted the offensive language left at this point on the talk page and I hope whoever wrote it has been blocked.
Walton monarchist89 10:51, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism 

message: Shouldn't Hutt River Province Principality be added to the list of absolute monarchies? effeietsanders 23:00, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hutt River Province Principality 

message: Did an edit to phrasing in this bit; while James I and Charles I may have attempted to import the idea of the Divine Right of Kings (James in particular) a large part of the current thinking in History is that neither were directly trying to establish absolute rule by doing so, although admittedly the threat of absolutism did cause suspicion and fear amongst the Commons and some nobility. While many interpretations disagree on what Charles I was up to I'd say it's open to debate. Jezze 23:36, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  James I & Charles I

message: I was thinking about adding Hans-Hermann Hoppe's argument in "Democracy: the God that Failed" to the Theories and History section. The reasons not to seem to be that no monarch has used Hoppe's theory to justify his rule and that Hoppe was not ultimately arguing for monarchy. But it is an original and important contribution. I think I'll write something up unless someone objects.Atripodi 12:56, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Add Hoppe to Theories and History?

message: Ive created the page Royal autocracy, and redirected it here. Im not sure how common the term is, but at least it got 2,100 google hits, so I thought it might be a good idea to create a page for it.
However, are the terms Royal autocracy and Absolute monarchy the same thing? As a novice, I would say that they match, but there might be slite differences between the meanings of the words that could justify an own page for Royal autocracy.
Comments?
--Screensaver 09:17, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect from Royal autocracy 

message: 1) Someone had put SEXISGOOD after the napolean link...fixed it Invader05 00:48, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixes 

message: I kinda disagree with the statement that Jordan and Morocco moved to a constitutional monarchy. In both cases, the king still has absolute power. The "constitutional" part being a mere cloak to silence the West. You can call a cat a dove all you want, it won't make it fly. Seriously, that bit gotta be removed, or at the very least, made more explicit as to not let the reader under the impression that the parliaments in those countries have anything more than a figurative role. I'm respectfully running this by the community first in the hope to find a consensus. Lixy 16:43, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Queen Elizabeth is also Head of State and, as far as I know, also immune at law. —Tamfang (talk) 23:41, 19 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Constitutional monarchies? 

message: Isn't history full of pre-Medieval examples of absolute monarchy?  What about Pharoahs, Roman emperors, Mayan kings, etc.  Were these monarchies not absolute? -- Minaker  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.119.100.224 (talk) 11:56, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theories and History section 

message: What's the difference? I think I'm missing something here, because I don't see any difference between the two. So...that pretty much sums it up.:\  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.177.182.30 (talk) 14:30, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dictatorship and Absolute Monarchy 

message: It seams to me that the Tuders were pretty much absolute manarchs with only the stuats lossesing that power due to thier poor handleing and the english civel war--J intela (talk) 06:06, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  TUders 

message: These do exist, but I removed the call for expert on politics, as these are more a sociological, historical curiosity. The few remaining are not really absolute monarchies in the traditional sense, as in the case of the various Islamic states with tribal rulers, but traditional systems layered over various forms of modernized feudalism or simple bourgeois rule. 72.228.177.92 (talk) 00:29, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contemporary Instances 

message: Is there a way to cause the article to flow around the "Forms of government" sidebar? Currently it's not doing so, and that's a LOOOONG sidebar. It makes the page look pretty atrocious. Msaunier (talk) 04:21, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sidebar text formatting? 

message: I think the system needs to be fixed so that you cannot rate this article infinitely.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.5.246.193 (talk) 00:44, 28 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ratings 

message: I reverted this edit for the second time, as the comments are completely unsourced, and goes against all scholarly opinions on the subject in order to make what seems to be personal opinions. --Saddhiyama (talk) 02:03, 12 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes 

message: The Wikipedia article on Swaziland does not support the present article's contention that the country in an absolute monarchy. Indeed, the claim in the present article is without citation.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.94.241.240 (talk) 05:31, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: From the Politics of Swaziland article: "According to current Swazi law and custom, the monarch holds supreme executive, legislative, and judicial powers", and it is "... a mixed framework of an absolute monarchy and a constitutional monarchy" (although it is difficult to see which elements constitutes the constitutional monarchy). --Saddhiyama (talk) 09:51, 12 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swaziland 

message: Qatar is an emirate and as such belongs in the category of absolute monarchies (in which article it is currently listed). As there was no sources provided in the recent edits that supported a claim of it being a constitutional monarchy, I have reverted them. --Saddhiyama (talk) 12:08, 7 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Qatar 

message: Looking at the edit history, over the last two months, this article has been constantly vandalized by unregistered users, most of them with no other edits before or after this article.Abstractematics (talk) 05:23, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-Protection Request 

message: I am editing this article in sandbox for my computer science course. This article was full of  unsourced material that did not seem reliable to me.
To fix this problem i plan to follow the usual procedure, outlined by wikipedia for articles such as this one. I plan on removing all uncredited information/ original research and for certain areas, provide a proper citation for the rest. I am open to more suggestions on how to further improve this article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lolasoji (talk • contribs) 03:04, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: User:Lolasoji

message: A monarch is an individual exercising private land ownership...a landlord dictating to the inhabitants of his private realm. An entire nation, or empire, can then be left to the monarch's heirs, just as any private property. The monarch maintains their position of power using a private military. They give temporary land rights, to private mercenaries willing to defend the monarch's ownership. This seems to be an environment of anarcho-capitalism which, by definition, has no true government oversight. Nothinheavy (talk) 15:23, 19 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: What's "anarcho" about it? --YOMAL SIDOROFF-BIARMSKII (talk) 22:32, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  An absolute monarchy, is by definition, an hereditary dictatorship. Autocracies often receive different names and connotations... The word "Emperor" or "King" refers to a ruler. 181.179.29.143 (talk) 08:33, 22 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is an absolute monarchy an actual form of government, or is it the epitome of private enterprise? 

message: This articles says "Russia became the last European country (excluding Vatican City) to abolish absolutism."
However, the Kingdom of Yugoslavia article shows the country as being an absolute monarchy from 1929 to 1934, decades after Russia's monarchy was abolished. Pretendus (talk) 19:47, 9 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yugoslavia's absolute monarchy 1929 - 1934 

message: I don't understand how  is constructive. Please explain. Chris Troutman (talk) 15:40, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  removing cited content 

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message: Shouldn't individual emirs in the UAE be added to the list of Absolute monarchies? After all, the article states that they are absolute monarchs.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Achoo! (talk • contribs) 14:23, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes! 115.84.94.156 (talk) 02:10, 8 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't individual emirs in the UAE be added to the list of Absolute monarchies? 

message: I see that it's requested to add a Roman Empire subsection under the history section: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_monarchy#Roman_Empire
This article History of the Roman Empire contains this prose: "The state of absolute monarchy that began with Diocletian endured until the fall of the Eastern Roman Empire in 1453. Diocletian divided the empire into four regions, each ruled by a separate Emperor (the Tetrarchy)." and is contained within two references that may prove promising:
So, perhaps we can use those sources and those key terms as a start to expanding that section. Sincerely, Shashi Sushila Murray, (message me) 23:58, 23 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expansion of Roman Empire within history section. 

message: The Nations to be added are, among others:
1. The individual Emirates of the UAE (or even the U.A.E. itself according to the "Forms of Government Map")
2. North Korea
3. Bahrain
4. All hereditary dictatorships (there should not be a separate "hereditary dictatorship" page, I recommend both articles to be fusioned) 
Signed 190.5.245.50 (talk) 16:03, 17 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Bahrain is not absolute, but given that dualistic (half-constitutional, not to be confused with Dual) monarchies are rare now in the world, maybe a section on dualistic onarchies should be added here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.144.244.147 (talk) 21:17, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please add the remaining Absolute Monarchies to the list 

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message: Did Andorra cease being an absolute monarchy earlier than 1917 ? And what about Liechtenstein ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.144.244.147 (talk) 21:12, 23 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Andorra 

message: "Absolute monarchy originally emerged in Europe after the social upheaval of the Black Death and Renaissance" 
Could Someone clarify the above statement? Doesn't absolute monarchy exist before social upheaval? 2405:800:9031:4555:1:0:F3F:CD44 (talk) 19:25, 18 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: my uncestours telling me about magic before going because Ian.not safe to anybody   they do what they like  in my power man's idont want them.hoy want  kill my kids they see vision of murder my two sons Bruno and asanda  both so  boy his  not allowed to my life  and boss and others  please   all man's are uin one roof 41.116.46.107 (talk) 14:34, 5 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification needed