Talk:List of fatal bear attacks in North America

message: I just found a source that says that Baron von Schlosser was not killed in 1904: https://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH19040228.2.75 .  Here an other source: https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/17073879/ . Fake news or alternative facts?
::Thanks, removed. --CutOffTies (talk) 23:44, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Killing of Baron von Schlosser 

message: I again think this list is way too long and affecting readability.  There are so many ways to split it- I'd be interested in thoughts from others.  Thanks --CutOffTies (talk) 00:10, 27 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: List is still way too long

message: This book might be useful for an article on the history of US national parks/environmental history:
Engineering Eden: the true story of a violent death, a trial, and the fight over controlling nature by Jordan Fisher Smith 2016, Penguin Random House   Jodi.a.schneider (talk) 14:50, 11 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, it looks like a fascinating book! --CutOffTies (talk) 23:53, 22 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  New book on the civil trial following the Yellowstone Park 1972 death of Harry Walker (maybe useful for environmental history articles?) 

message: Regarding Ester Schwimmer, killed 19 August 2002:
 
The baby's name is given here and in the CBS News citation as Ester. She is named Esther in this New York Times article http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/20/nyregion/catskill-bear-snatches-infant-from-stroller-and-kills-her.html . In the Times Herald-Record, the local regional paper, she is Esty (which could be a nickname). http://www.recordonline.com/article/20020820/NEWS/308209999/0/SEARCH 
The first officer on the scene chased the bear into the woods where it attempted to climb a tree. (Male, ~ 2 years old, 155 lbs.) He dispatched it.
In this NYT article, we see that the necropsy discovered plastic bags, peanut butter smears, grocery store fruit stickers, and aluminum in his stomach, indicating that he'd been eating garbage http://www.nytimes.com/2002/08/21/nyregion/a-recipe-for-a-run-in-more-bears-and-more-people-in-their-path.html . 
I cannot corroborate this, but as a cautionary tale for others reading this comment, a NYS Trooper who was also at the scene told his wife, a nurse I worked with, that the baby's stroller was parked near the bungalow colony's dumpster. Bears + human temptations (like bird feeders, barbecue grills, dumpsters) = regret. 
Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 01:19, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  E. Schwimmer, death of 2002. 

message: Obvious vandalism by 174.254.197.202
Tried to patch it up a bit..  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.50.68.204 (talk) 23:36, 6 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Mr. Frank Scott Barnes, former mayor of Wrangell, AK, and salmon cannery owner/operator, was killed by a grizzly in 1939, while guiding a party of fisherman on the Stikine River.  He'd headed back to a cabin in which the party had overnighted to retrieve an article of gear, encountered the bear, fired one shot. His party found him wedged into the crotch of a tree, only to be freed using an axe.  Mr. Barnes died en route to Seattle for treatment.  This story was reported in Outdoor Life, sorry don't know the date, but did read the article. Also, Mr. Barnes was a relative, I learned of his death through family lore. Mr Barnes isn't mentioned in this list.
Fewer annual deaths as you go back in time, and a greater proportion involving captive bears.  Grizzlies and blacks were subject to pretty constant hunting pressure in earlier days, so tended to display a greater fear of man.  The hunting early on was directed toward eradication, because the bears, killing livestock and raiding produce,  were direct competitors of humans in the survival game. Controlled hunting, aimed at maintaining reasonable populations, results in a more nocturnal and less bold bear population, aiding in the reduction of human fatalities due to bears. Banning hunting and criminalizing self defense against bears leads to saturated population levels, resulting in full-tilt intra-species cannibalism, and to a bolder, more diurnal bear population that interacts more freely with humans. To reduce bear deaths, implement hunting aimed at population maintenance, at a density well below resource saturation.
2600:6C54:7A80:3C3C:49AF:8416:8801:E941 (talk) 19:41, 13 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional Death by Grizzly 

message: Gary Sotherden was killed by Grizzly in 1976 and it was proven with dna from skull in 1991. 2600:1700:69F3:1880:4591:8072:AC32:2E88 (talk) 03:35, 14 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alaskan Grizzly attack at  

message: Brown bears are coastal AK/BC bears, and I assert should be a different subspecies. GRIZZLIES are INLAND bears, look much different and are more aggressive. 2607:FB91:1E68:D18C:AC39:C2D1:6883:6242 (talk) 05:24, 21 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  NOT "Brown" Bears