Talk:Thakar Singh

message: Someone apparently did not like the scan of the public domain book as a suitable image, so I've added a wikipedia commons image to replace the link removed recently by the bot. Sevadar2 (talk) 12:49, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: New Image, Jan 2008

message: I am pleased this article is up and has only improved since it was written by me in 2006. The level of objectivity has improved and satisfied Wikipedia standards earning a B rating, but the crucial points are all still there. Thank-you to everyone who made a positive improvement. Sevadar  Sep 21, 2008  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.129.205.202 (talk) 20:17, 21 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Successful

message: I made a scan of one of Sant Thakar Singh's books to use for an image since I have not had luck yet getting one from his Mission. The book has no copyright and is in the public domain, so there should be no more licensing issues. If you have a better picture, which you own and would like to donate, that is great. Sevadar 19:44, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Image

message: Despite the WikiProject banner, Sant Mat has nothing in particular to do with Hinduism. Sant Thakar Singh was not even a Hindu, but rather a Sikh by birth. But his teachings were intended to go beyond the world religions (which he called "the dead religions") and bring people into Light through actual experience. However, it is OK for the love of the wikipedia participants to flow in. Sant Mat is a very inclusive concept.
Sevadar 03:38, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've discovered the WP Hinduism tag was most likely placed by a bot so I am removing the tag. STS was neither a Hindu nor did he teach Hinduism, although he was from India and also used references from Gita, etc. when he gave satsang. Sevadar Sevadar 00:14, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sant Mat Is Not Hinduism

message: I am troubled by certain things in this article. First, the entire "References" section was a mess till I cleaned it up somewhat by seperating citations that link to external websites and citations that use books and other sources.  I am going to ask another editor here on Wikipedia for help on this problem.
Second, Sant Thakar Singh is often called "The Master" in the article.  Exactly who gave him this title?  I have no idea partly because I don't even know who he is.  I arrived at this article looking into something else.  It is perfectly fine to call George. H. W. Bush "President," because that is exactly what he is (his title), but where did "Sant Thakar Singh" get this title?  I am afraid it may not be totally objective.
Third, there should be absolutely no use of first person in editing an article (e.g. "I").  There are several uses of first person in the "Notes" and "References" sections.  That is a serious problem and not befitting an encyclopedia.  
Overall, I am questioning the objectivity of this article.  There's a lot of info in the article, but it should remain something for everyone, not the followers of a particular faith.  Stiles 06:50, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A few words

message: Just beginning work on this. Thanks for your patience. 20:52, 5 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Starting work

message: I added 3600 words on the teachings of the Master and the controversies of the early years. Please note the
references are not complete yet. Thanks for your patience. 03:00, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Teachings and Controversies Sections

message: Another editor added an attention tag here, but I am not sure how to address it. Please leave some instructions on this page. Thank-you kindly. 01:00, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Attention Tag

message: He was just another initiate parading as a Master.
Tayv, I encourage you to substantiate your ideas with facts. I will ask that you be banned from the Wikipedia site if you can't contribute in a constructive way or work towards the common objective of a neutral point of view. Please sign your comments. Sevadar 19:45, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: so-called "master"

message: This article requires some attention from a more non-biased viewpoint. The primary author is an obvious follower of these teaching(Which, in itself, is fine). However, that detracts from the neutrality of the article in that it is told from the viewpoint of a believer. A more objective view is needed to improve the article. Jaala84 17:09, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: I have replaced the paragraph that begins with: "The controversy over these instructions ..."
with an actual description of what really was the practice back then. I surely considered leaving the original paragraph in place and to just add the example as an additional information. I decided otherwise for the following reasons:
# the phrase: "... which seems to be an exaggeration" indicates that the author of this lines has no real knowledge of the subject.
# much of the paragraph is a plain attempt to justify the practice. This IMO has no place in the Wikipedia. It might have been more appropriate to give a description of why people at the time did it and thought it was a good thing to do.
The newly introduced paragraph contains links to he source of the description (a report published by the German parlament). Both the german original and an english translation (which is cited in the new paragraph) are available.
Andreas Sumerauer 19:20, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Childhood Meditation 

message: This article is an unabashed praise of a religious icon by his followers. Please rewrite or delete.
I added the neutrality-disputed and rewrite tags.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Teegeedee (talk • contribs) 14:44, 12 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality-issue: Remove this article if not completely rewritten soon 

message: A rewrite notice was placed in January 2010.  However, as of February 2016, this still is not an encyclopedia article but, rather, a presentation of Thakar Singh by followers.Oliver Puertogallera (talk) 03:50, 8 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  An encyclopedia article it is not 

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