Talk:Civilian casualties and displacements during the Cyprus conflict

message: Hello everybody - I just created this article, in order to resolve the dispute about the "Turkish Cypriot Genocide", which now is a redirect to this article. Your discussions about the genocide article are not lost, but in the Talk archive. - Snchduer 18:50, 3 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Creation of the article

message: Dear Argy,
refrain from using copy-paste-editing to overwrite this article. There is a certain sense in this structure, but your edits are firstly quite POV and secondly unstructured. If you want to include GC casualties and displacements, do so in the appropriate section, but maintaining a neutral tone. - Snchduer 00:13, 4 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy-Paste Editing 

message: hi Expatkiwi (or other ppl who have sources),
can you please shorten the TC 1974 section dramatically? I do not see the benefit having a list of names here; state places, and numbers instead. - Snchduer 19:06, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, yes, please shorten. --Chiacomo  (talk) 19:18, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)

text: Yep, but imagine the GCs also want to put their 5000 names... this will make the page quite unreadable... I favour your solution of putting it on extra pages. If this is deemed not fit for a wikipedia article (as I would suspect it might be), don't get angry, but provide the proper links to the TRNC page (I suspect you got it from there?). - Snchduer 23:17, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  TC casualties in 1974 

message: Why don't you ever  stop lying?You claim that turkish cypriots suffeed more during the invasion when  women where raped and men killed.Then what can we say about the Greek cypriots.Weren't treated like animals from the "peace-keeping" army of your motherland?The turkish army has killed much more civilians than the greek-cypriot armed forces.The turkish cypriot fled to the north because they wanted to be in the turkish-controled teritories.The attacks on villages were made mostly by fanatics of EOKA B that wanted revenge for the turkish invasion.Also we must not foeget that in the first days of the invasion almost every turkish village created its own small military force that became a danger for nearby greek villages.In the larger cities like Famagusta and Limasol the turkish-cypriots formed armed forces consisting of 1000 armed civilians that required the respone from the Greek-cypriot army.Summarising the effect by the turkish invasion is much more greater on the greek-cypriots rather the turkish-cypriots; as mush more were killed,injured,raped and forced to leave their homes by the turkish 'peace-force'.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.4.136.99 (talk) 14:10, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  TURKISH PROPAGANDA 

message: Hello everybody - I'd like to make some strong suggestions for this article - as a Cypriot.
I don't understand where the claim for 120000 Turkish-Cypriot deaths in the 1963-1974 era comes from. This is impossible, since the Turkish population in Cyprus (~85000 in 1960) actually grew substantially (~120000 in 1974) during these years. Evidence from a few books in my possession suggests that Turkish-Cypriot casualties where 500-700 people, while 300-400 Greek-Cypriots lost their lives. 
As I'm not a specialist in modern Cyprus history, I'll refrain from editing this article. However I must urge the current editors to either research the topic properly and post the real numbers, or to remove the article altogether.
Another correction: the incident in old Nicosia that prompted the bi-communal violence resulted in the death of 1 Greek-Cypriot, along with those of 2 Turkish-Cypriots that are already mentioned. --Respiridus 16:04, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Numbers of dead

message: Given the controversy of this issue, I think it would be best to avoid placing anything here (especially events and numbers of victims), without references to independent sources. By "independent" I mean international organizations, third-party publications, etc. (sites from Greece, Turkey, and Cyprus don't count).
What do you think?—Preceding unsigned comment added by Respiridus (talk • contribs) 14:16, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: I'm against merging of this article with the Cypriot refugee article cause the Civilian casualties and displacements during the Cyprus conflict article is more general than the other one. The Cypriot refugee article can be added to this article as a separate section. E104421 12:51, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merging

message: * Turkish Cypriot Withdrawal from the Government - Some say withdrawal, some say forced withdrawal, this article is pushing the former.
* the Turkish Cypriot leaders showed absolutely no interest in negotiating - according to whom?
* Thus they abandoned the parliament and all other institutions, beating the drum and accusing the other side that "they have thrown us out of the republic" (to this day, the seats reserved for the Turks are still empty in the Assembly of Republic of Cyprus). - abandoned? beating the drum? 
*The Turkish Army conducted a policy of ethnic cleansing consisting of wholesale attacks and massacres of the Greek population of the territories that came under Turkish military population in an attempt to terrorise the Greek population into evacuating these areas. The wholesale massacres carried by the Turkish army and Turkish Cypriot paramilitary groups against the Greeks of Cyprus[citation needed] spawned a limited number of similar attacks against Turkish civilians in the south by small groups - one is "wholesale attacks and massacres...in an attempt to terrorise the Greek population" while the other is "a limited number of similar attacks...by small groups". 
Article tagged for the time being. --A.Garnet 18:38, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  pov problems 

message: I like the fact that you guys decided to basically make it look like the Turks invaded for no particular reason and that they for no particular reason slaughtered everyone and ethnically cleansed everyone. This is all bull-crap and you yourselves know it. I don't know how you people sleep at night knowing that you only counted the Greek Cypriots that died and barely mentioned any Turkish Cypriots that were the ones that were REALLY ethnically cleansed. I'm not going to even bother changing this article, I know it will just be reverted again by propagandists, it's just sad that you guys pollute wikipedia like this. Arsenic99 19:40, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Completely Biased Propaganda

message: The article is very POV, there are a few obvious chnages I would like to make unless anyone disagrees
1)
Most of the amendments were aimed at fairly balancing out the political rights of both Cypriot communities, based on their proportion of the island's population
Most of the amendments were aimed at rebalancing political power within the Cyprus House of Representatives, based on their proportion of the island's population  —Preceding unsigned comment added by GreenwichSol (talk • contribs) 16:38, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested changes 

message: I've removed an old neutrality tag from this page that appears to have no active discussion per the instructions at Template:POV:
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Since there's no evidence of ongoing discussion, I'm removing the tag for now. If discussion is continuing and I've failed to see it, however, please feel free to restore the template and continue to address the issues. Thanks to everybody working on this one! -- Khazar2 (talk) 22:24, 20 June 2013 (UTC)
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message: Dr. K., you removed the following content from the above entitled WP:	
On 13 October 2014, United States Federal Court ruled that "..Greek Cypriots cannot claim that the government in control of Northern Cyprus gave their homes to Turkish Cypriots....Although the United States does not recognize it as a state, the TRNC purportedly operates as a democratic republic with a president, prime minister, legislature and judiciary...TRNC is not vulnerable to a lawsuit in Washington".courthousenews Courthouse News Service	
with the edit summary: "Undue weight. No consensus. revert spamming across multiple articles by edit-warring Northern Cyprus-promoting SPA"	
1. Which part of the edit you attach undue weight?	
2. Is USA FC decision related with Northern Cyprus not related with Northern Cyprus according to you?	
3. If so, what is it related with? Notice you removed it from "Legal Challanges.."	
4. Is USA FC decision is not a legal action according to you?
Alexyflemming (talk) 21:39, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
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