Talk:Saoshyant

message: How is one supposed to pronounce the word "Saoshyant"?  I have heard it spelt as "Sow-she-ann" before, but I would rather hear it from a specialist in Zoroaster culture than some layman over the Web.
:: IMHO, it's more likely /sao'ʃjant/ rather than "[soːʃjʌnt]" currently supposed in the article (it's not an English world, but some kind of old-Iranian one). --Djadjko (talk) 22:11, 11 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I am aware of its origin and I'm a linguist, which is why I put in the pronunciation in the first place. Avestan has a highly peculiar spelling and the romanisation is worse. Ogress smash! 01:03, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, then it should be clarified, whether it's an English pronunciation or an Avestan one; from my (amateur linguist) point, it was just doubtful that "-ao-" letter combination produces [o:] sound in a non-English word. --Djadjko (talk) 22:09, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's IPA and a non-English word, what exactly do you want me to explain? Ogress smash! 22:24, 12 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Does the suggested IPA transcription ("[soːʃjʌnt]") stand for English pronunciation or for Avestan one? (Compare: "Paris" article, the beginning). --Djadjko (talk) 22:47, 18 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  How would the IPA pronunciation for an Avestan word be the "English pronunciation"? Comparing "Paris" is irrelevant because French was the language of importance to English speakers from about 1066 to about 1800. It's apples and oranges. This is an exceedingly specialised Avestan and Zoroastrian term, how would there be an English pronunciation for it? Ogress smash! 00:10, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  On the English term pronunciation: I'm not sure, but it could be some sort of a scientific professional jargon or adaptation for English speakers to make the pronunciation easier. OK, it would be better for me to put any foreign-loaned scientific term as an example, instead of Paris :) Well, so you claim "[soːʃjʌnt]" is an IPA transcription for the pronunciation of an Avestan word "Saoš́iiaṇt̰". Can you then please provide the source for that Avestan spelling and that IPA transcription? (For me, the IPA transcription looks a bit doubtful, especially "[oː]" corresponding to "-ao-" in the provided modified-Latin transliteration of an Avestan word). --Djadjko (talk) 02:13, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

text:  There is an entire wikipedia page about Avestan phonology. Given they suggest a slightly different timbre, I have made that adjustment, not that it will help you in any way since you keep asking about high-level details of a subject you apparently know nothing about. Ogress smash! 08:05, 20 May 2015 (UTC)

text:  Well, OK, let it be. But it's better to make references to reliable sources in such highly special, non-obvious (as for an amateur linguist) cases. Wikipedia is not for original researches; feel free to cite any relevant publications (including yours, if any). I'm going to add . Thanks. --Djadjko (talk) 01:49, 9 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: "Zoroastrian tradition envisions three future saviours, one for the end of each 1,000-year period that comprise the last 3,000 years of the world."
My research into Zoroastrianism shows that they believe world history is 6K years long and divided into 3 2k periods. Maybe a source can be provided for this 3k years claim to clear things up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.85.54.137 (talk) 00:28, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  3k or 6k years