Talk:Julius Vogel

message: Sir Julius Vogel's principal achievement as a colonial statesman was the discovery that the savings of the mother country could, with mutual advantage, be obtained by the colonies and applied to the construction of railways and other public works. That his system of finance was on the whole successful was amply proved by the prosperous state of the Australasian colonies. Sir Julius Vogel was the author of the act by virtue of which Colonial stock has been inscribed at the Bank of England and has become a popular investment for trustees. His project of law was accepted by the imperial government to the equal benefit of all the colonies. His scheme of public borrowing for the colony of New Zealand was put into effect in 1870, and within the next ten years the colony borrowed £22,500,000 at diminishing rates of interest, the population rose from 250,000 to 500,000, the extent of land under cultivation increased from 1,000,000 to 4,000,000 acres, and the value of exports from £500,000 to £1,500,000. It is also stated that in the same ten years he introduced 100,000 immigrants and caused 1,200 miles of railway to be constructed. During a visit to England he established the existing mail service between New Zealand and San Francisco. In his first premiership he set on foot the government life-insurance system and organized the New Zealand Public Trusteeship. He was one of the first to advocate imperial federation.
The above material may be found at  where full copyright is claimed . However,  suggests that the text originates from the 1899 printed edition of the encyclopedia, in which case it could legally be used in Wikipedia provided it was typed in using the printed version as a reference. dramatic 05:09, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
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message: No Israeli prime ministers were religious. Daily practicing was nobody of them. More traditionalist was, maybe, Begin. User:Cpt.schoener|Cpt.schoener]] (talk) 23:31, 5 May 2012 (UTC)
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message: I'm not sure what Vogel was up to in 1866. His Dictionary of New Zealand Biography entry certainly got it wrong with what they imply here:
In the general election of 1866 Vogel contested Waikouaiti and was defeated. He had paid scant attention to the needs of his constituents. The prolonged nature of the election allowed him to be returned unopposed to represent the Goldfields.
Fact is, the nomination meeting at Clyde for the Goldfields electorate was on Monday, 26 February. Two positions to fill, two candidates, hence both of them are declared elected on the spot (Charles Gordon O'Neill was the other one). The other fact is that the nomination meeting at some courthouse (I'm guessing at Palmerston; as far as I know, Waikouaiti didn't have a court) for the Waikouaiti electorate was on Tuesday, 27 February. There were three candidates for one position, so the electors got to vote on the following day (28 February).
Dates and weekdays mentioned in contemporary newspapers, plus the election dates given in Wilson, all confirm the above order of events. So why would Vogel turn up to a nomination meeting for the Waikouaiti electorate when he had already been elected the day prior? Schwede66 06:48, 8 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  1866 election