Talk:Latin Union

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  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt MS UI Gothic">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV 
  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt MS UI Gothic; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
  <A title=dpel@unilat.org href="mailto:dpel@unilat.org">Uni Latina</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt MS UI Gothic"><B>To:</B> <A title=martinez@dempa.co.jp 
  href="mailto:martinez@dempa.co.jp">John Martinez</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt MS UI Gothic"><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, March 15, 2005 
  10:47 PM</DIV>
  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt MS UI Gothic"><B>Subject:</B> Re: Las Filipinas,Timor 
  Oriental so n un miembro de La Uniﾃｳn Latina?</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV><FONT size=3>Estimado Ser,<BR>Tal como se lo aclaraba en el 
  correo electrico anterior Filipinas es pais miembre de la Uni latina desde 
  1954. Dos nuevos estados, Timor Leste y Andorra, adhirieron a la Uni latina 
  en diciembre 
  2004.<BR>Atentamente,<BR>-------------------------------------------------------<BR></FONT><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3>Dolores ﾁlvarez<BR>Directora 
  adjunta<BR>Uni Latina<BR>DPEL<BR>131, rue du Bac<BR>75007 Par﨎 
  -Francia<BR>tel. (33 1) 45 49 60 60<BR>fax. (33 1) 45 44 46 97 <BR>correo-e: 
  dpel-ul@unilat.org<BR><A href="http://dpel.unilat.org/" 
  eudora="autourl">http://dpel.unilat.org<BR></A>-------------------------------------------</FONT>------------ 
  <BR><BR><BR>Le 04:02 14/03/2005, vous avez 馗rit:<BR>
  <BLOCKQUOTE class=cite cite="" type="cite">・ｿ <BR><FONT size=2>Estimado 
    Seﾃｱor, <BR></FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT size=2>Quisiera saber 
    si Timor del Este(Timor-Leste, Timor Oriental) es un miembro <BR>de La 
    Uniﾃｳn Latina. Quisiera saber si hay nuevos miembros y si suprimieron a 
    <BR>algunos miembros por informacion para el wikipedia del Web site 
    (en.wikipedia.org). <BR></FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT 
    size=2>Gracias, <BR></FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT 
    size=2>John(Juan) Martinez <BR></FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT 
    size=2>(Jondel en el Wikipedia inglﾃｩs)<BR></FONT><FONT 
    size=3> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR></FONT><FONT 
    size=2>Esteemed sir, <BR></FONT><FONT size=3> <BR></FONT><FONT 
    size=2><BR>I would like to know if East Timor is a member of the Latin 
    Union. <BR>I would like to know if there are new members and if some members 
    were deleted<BR>for the website wikipedia 
    (en.wikipedia.org).<BR> <BR><BR>Thank you ,<BR> <BR>John 
    Martinez<BR>(Jondel in the English Wikipedia)</FONT></BLOCKQUOTE><X-SIGSEP>
  <P></X-SIGSEP><FONT 
  size=3>-------------------------------------------------------<BR></FONT><FONT 
  face="Times New Roman, Times" size=3>Dolores ﾁlvarez<BR>Directora 
  adjunta<BR>Uni Latina<BR>DPEL<BR>131, rue du Bac<BR>75007 Par﨎 
  -Francia<BR>tel. (33 1) 45 49 60 60<BR>fax. (33 1) 45 44 46 97 <BR>correo-e: 
  dpel-ul@unilat.org<BR>-------------------------------------------</FONT>------------ 
  </P></blockquote>
Ahh.. Very interesting. It's curious that Canada isn't a part of this Latin Union. --Chris 03:35, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: They should be. Quebecanians would probably want it. If states could apply, maybe New Mexico. --Jondel 04:02, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: I forgot to ask about Equitorial Guinea.--Jondel 08:51, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm, I think I sent mine to the French offices of the Latin Union. They were probably horrified with my French. Malta and Andorra are listed on the news section of the site (http://unilat.org/actu.html) I asked about this in my e-mail, I'll give it a few more days, hopefully they will reply. That section of the site also highlights Argentina, the Order of Malta and the Holy See as 'Permanent Observers'. Erehtsti 12:22, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: Yes, that's a good idea, we could start by clearing up the 'Observateur Permanent' list (Argentina, Malta, Holy See) and maybe from there ask about ones that are not listed as members but do qualify. A good reference would be the Community of Portuguese Language Countries and La Francophonie, or looking up the Spanish, Portuguese and  French colonial empires is always an option. If I recall correctly, Italy did have a few colonies in Africa. Erehtsti 21:27, 19 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: E-mail

message: Whether already a member or should be a member.(Please remove any confirmed member.)
====Members/Observers====
*Argentina
*Malta Order of Malta
*Vatican City/Holy See
====Potential Members(?)====
*Algeria
*Andorra Confirmed member
*Belgium
*Benin
*Burkina Faso
*Burundi
*Cameroon
*Canada
*Central African Republic
*Chad
*Comoros
*Costa Rica Confirmed Member
*Djibouti
*El Salvador Confirmed Member
*Equatorial Guinea
*Guinea
*Haiti
*Luxembourg
*Madagascar
*Mali
*Mauritania
*Mauritius
*Rwanda
*Switzerland
*Seychelles
*Tunisia
*Vanuatu
Why are Tunisia and Algeria potential members, but not Morroco where the influence of French is just as strong, and there is also a strong Spanish influence in the Western Sahara/Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic? About the Philippines, I think somebody should make a comment about religion. The Philippines are a catholic majority country, which is why some filipinos feel associated with other latin countries which mostly catholic. On the other hand, the latin influence in Algeria, Morroco and Tunisia is much stronger - french is a defacto offical language in all three countries, but retain a strong muslim identity and as such do not identify with other latin countries.     
I added a few more countries to the list, most of which has French as their official language. I have also yet to receive a reply from my earlier e-mail to the French offices of the Latin Union, so I guess I'll leave all the correspondences to you (since you were successful with yours). Also, don't you think it would help the Latin Union to have their site in English as well? I have a feeling that the rest of the English speaking population of the Internet (or the world) doesn't know that it exists. Erehtsti 13:59, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. I'll make the letter and the suggestion. --Jondel 06:43, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Status:email sent today.Andorra is a member.--Jondel 09:48, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: Status: Still no reply.I'll just update if I do get a reply.--Jondel 00:33, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've yet to receive a reply from the first email that I sent =\ Do you think it's a good idea to include a list of potential members in the main article? Or would that just seem like redundant information? Erehtsti 06:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: Yeah, I suppose we can leave the current article as it is until we hear from the Latin Union. Erehtsti 17:58, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: List of countries requiring confirmation

message: *Algeria
*Andorra Confirmed member
*Belgium
*Benin
*Burkina Faso
*Burundi
*Cameroon
*Canada
*Central African Republic
*Chad
*Comoros
*Costa Rica Confirmed Member
*Djibouti
*El Salvador Confirmed Member
*Equatorial Guinea
*Guinea
*Haiti
*Luxembourg
*Madagascar
*Mali
*Mauritania
*Mauritius
*Rwanda
*Switzerland
*Seychelles
*Tunisia
*Vanuatu
Why are Tunisia and Algeria potential members, but not Morroco where the influence of French is just as strong, and there is also a strong Spanish influence in the Western Sahara/Sahrawi Arab Democratic Republic? About the Philippines, I think somebody should make a comment about religion. The Philippines are a catholic majority country, which is why some filipinos feel associated with other latin countries which mostly catholic. On the other hand, the latin influence in Algeria, Morroco and Tunisia is much stronger - french is a defacto offical language in all three countries, but retain a strong muslim identity and as such do not identify with other latin countries.     
I added a few more countries to the list, most of which has French as their official language. I have also yet to receive a reply from my earlier e-mail to the French offices of the Latin Union, so I guess I'll leave all the correspondences to you (since you were successful with yours). Also, don't you think it would help the Latin Union to have their site in English as well? I have a feeling that the rest of the English speaking population of the Internet (or the world) doesn't know that it exists. Erehtsti 13:59, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. I'll make the letter and the suggestion. --Jondel 06:43, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Status:email sent today.Andorra is a member.--Jondel 09:48, 5 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: Status: Still no reply.I'll just update if I do get a reply.--Jondel 00:33, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've yet to receive a reply from the first email that I sent =\ Do you think it's a good idea to include a list of potential members in the main article? Or would that just seem like redundant information? Erehtsti 06:07, 17 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: Yeah, I suppose we can leave the current article as it is until we hear from the Latin Union. Erehtsti 17:58, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Potential Members(?)

message: Are you sure it "was" an international organisation, as the article says currently? Is it not rather, still existing, yet without the power to act, as the secretariat (but not the organisation itself) has been dissoluted, but, still it has been decided "Garantizar en las mejores condiciones posibles la continuidad de las misiones y objetivos de la Organización, mediante su reconversión"?" The document also reaffirms "de manera incondicional el valor del Convenio constitutivo de la Organización adoptado en Madrid el 15 de mayo de 1954" etc. here? A missing ability to act does not mean legal non-existence. 95.90.217.74 (talk) 08:43, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears to be legally suspended, although the website of the organization  doesn't give any news after the announcement of the dissolution of the General Secretary, it stopped its activities ever since. Super Ψ Dro 09:24, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: [Edited:] But, even if suspended, it still exists. So the "was" at the beginning of the article is wrong. Therefore, the article should be corrected accordingly in my eyes.95.90.217.74 (talk) 10:54, 9 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suspended or Dissoluted?