Talk:WrestleMania 23/Archive 3

message: Im talking about people that whenever someone makes an edit, they revert it to the prior version.  The sell out crowd picture I posted looked alot better than the cell phone image, yet the cell phone image was used. Why? I dont know.  Person who posted the image must be more popular than me I guess. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.227.248.201 (talk • contribs) 
You violated American copyright laws. If you really want us to use the image, then you cough up $200,000 to cover the fines from the lawsuit, and the legal costs. And yes, the person who took the cell phone picture is more popular than you. -- The Hybrid 23:38, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the crowd image is better, but Hyrbid is right. Free pictures are supposed to be used instead of fair use if there is a free pic, and we don have a free pic. I just wish it was from a digital camera and not a crappy cell phone pic. TJ Spyke 23:42, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Because there's no freely-licensed substitute available. Bmg916SpeakSign 23:43, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly. Those images do get replaced if/when a free use one is found. TJ Spyke 23:45, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

text: No problem. If you want more info on WP's policies regarding pictures: WP:FU (the FU stands for "Fair Use", not the slang term). TJ Spyke 23:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

text: And I wasn't threatening you. I was doing it to entertain someone else. Sorry if I offended you. -- The Hybrid 23:48, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Wow, people who think they own Wikipedia

message: The difference between the two should be noted, for those that are not watching.Socby19 23:51, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Upcoming/Finished Matches

message: Wikipedia should not offer first-hand news reports on breaking stories. Wikipedia is not a primary source. However, our sister project Wikinews does exactly that, and is intended to be a primary source. Wikipedia does have many encyclopedia articles on topics of historical significance that are currently in the news, and can be updated with recent verified information. (from WP:NOT) Suriel1981 00:50, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Results and 'breaking news' are two different things.71.180.75.10 02:56, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh of course. Results = good. Blind speculation = bad. I think I was also trying to point out that as Wikipedia isn't a news site there was no need for a huge rush of people fighting to add information and make their mark on the article. It happened anyway ;^) ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹SpeakSign 00:29, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breaking News! 

message: The individuals in the dance segment: 
*Dusty Rhodes (wrestler)
*Cryme Time
*Eugene
*Mae Young and The Fabulous Moolah
*Gene Okerlund
*IRS
*Jimmy Hart (!)
*Ricky Steamboat (!)
*Sgt. Slaughter
*Gerald Brisco
*Ron Simmons
*Stephanie McMahon w/ brownies
Who else? --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 00:01, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How could you forget "The Doctor of Style" Slick? TJ Spyke 00:02, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, Simmons was there but didn't dance. TJ Spyke 00:03, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The dance segment isn't notable. Backstage segments are not a big part of the show, period. It being Wrestlemania doesn't make it an exception. I've removed it from the article a few times, but people keep re-adding it for no reason. RobJ1981 04:42, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dance Segment 

message: How long was that match? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SuperSonicTH (talk • contribs) 02:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't know off the top of my head. I'm sure someone else will add it. I am recording the PPV, so I will add it after the PPV if no one else does. TJ Spyke 02:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This has been discussed before (on last year's WM article), and the consensus was not to inlcude it. It is mentioned on the main WrestleMania page though. TJ Spyke 04:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What's so special about Lashley's match that caused you to not include the time for it? Its standard Wiki procedure. SuperSonicTH 11:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time for Lashley/Umaga... 

message: Let that be a lesson to all the idiots that were adamant that WWE were definitely going to have this match. Don't believe rumours some teen fanboy decides to put on some crappy forum. Suriel1981 03:01, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly, people just assumed they would have one since they did at the previous two WM's. Off-topic, but once again the Royal Rumble winner was NOT in the main event (hell, it was match #4 out of the 9 match PPV). TJ Spyke 03:03, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess we've got Backlash to look forward to now... <sighs> Suriel1981 03:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Weren't there only 8 matches? Besides, the main event isn't a position on a card.Koberulz 14:08, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dark Match Battle Royal 

message: At the beginning of the Cena match, after the ref patted down Shawn, did a fan run in the ring and then they cut away? chadking704 —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.171.86.158 (talk) 04:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dunno. Why not go to a news site and see? Suriel1981 04:13, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

text: It was, for about half a second, before someone realised what happened and cut to a different camera. Koberulz 13:43, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fan Interference 

message: No other Wrestlemania articles describe Undertaker's entrance, so we either need to remove the description of it in this article, or describe it in the rest of the Wrestlemania's he has participated in... ProtoWolf 04:18, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See WrestleMania XIV. It's noted because it's a unique entrance (the same way we noted Cena's entrance last year). TJ Spyke 04:19, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: However he did the same thing at WrestleMania XX and it is not noted at all in that article. If anything it seems more like trivia that he did it the same way as he did at WrestleMania XIV. ProtoWolf 04:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't notice it was noted at WM XX. TJ Spyke 04:30, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  No, I said it wasn't noted ate WM XX, but he did enter to the music with druids, and it is not noted. So it should be noted there, or removed from here. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ProtoWolf (talk • contribs) 04:43, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Hmm... Well until somebody here actually gets the book I'm afraid the statement stays in because it is the only source available at the moment. -- bulletproof 3:16 05:43, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually Mick Foley's first autobiog refers to that match as having a 6 million gross. It was a combined supershow. Would Foley, Bryan Alvarez and Real Deal be suitable sources? I say we wait, if we can quote two books and, say, Wrestling Observer then we could overrule the statement on this article. Suriel1981 05:53, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no problem with that. Just find a reliable source and we'll change it in the article. -- bulletproof 3:16 05:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Suriel, do you know where in his book Foley says it? I have his first two autobiographies, so I can confirm it for you. TJ Spyke 05:59, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

text: According to a Power Slam supplemental I'm now reading, the show actually was April 2, 1995 from the Tokyo Dome and 60,000 attendance. This is the one Foley was referring to as having a $6m house. Hope I'm not getting shows confused. Suriel1981 06:23, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I will change it to "in North America" for now. TJ Spyke 06:42, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Crikey, I was just looking through www.wrestletapes.net (probably not a citeable source I know) and they give several NJPW supershows at drawing well in excess of $5 million. It doesn't look like WM23 has it. Suriel1981 06:43, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess I should point out that the $5 million amount came when they had sold 63,000 tickets. We will have to wait to see how much those extra 13,000 tickets added. TJ Spyke 06:51, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah WWE's corporate site will have a press release up on the event in the next few hours.-- bulletproof 3:16 06:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've got a press release here  stating $5.38m, however that was a few hours ago. Suriel1981 07:04, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: awesome entrance, however i dont think it was 'o fortuna' im pretty sure it was his normal entrance music. Cradle666 10:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Steve Corino uses a remix of O Fortuna as his entrance music and the Undertaker is probably to scared of him to steal his gimmick Suriel1981 15:26, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Undertaker used both. First the druids came out to O Fortuna, then Undertaker came out to his regular music. TJ Spyke 21:24, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: so shouldn't the article be changed? only the druids came out to 'o fortuna' not the undertaker as stated??? Cradle666 22:15, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

text: O Fortuna was only used by Undertaker at WrestleMania XIV. The druid entrances from WM20 onwards have used generic druid music while Undertaker uses his regular theme. -- Oakster  Talk  22:57, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undertaker's Entrance 

message: Did Dusty Rhodes come out? He's not listed in the article. Tomtyke 15:22, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Come on man, we're all supposed to be friends here. Everything doesn't have to be formal. Get a sense of humor. -- The Hybrid 22:16, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hall of Fame Class 

message: -There was a part in the Trivia section that mentioned Undertaker and John Cena as being undefeated but didnt mention Rob Van Dam who is also undefeated being 4-0. Just thought id note it here incase someone adds it again.
-Should the WrestleMania set be noted in the article because wwe.com said this was the highest stage ever used and the longest entrance way. It also morphed for different entrances (I didnt notice this but it was mentioned on wwe.com) Don.-.J 16:35, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd personally say that if you can word it and provide a reference then go ahead. It seems like a piece of trivia that differenciates this WM from the 22 previous and a morphing entrance (I didn't see the show so I can't comment) has to be unique in wrestling/boxing/MMA pay-per-views Suriel1981 16:44, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The set did morph occasionally, specifically for Edge's entrance I remember. All of the competitors came out of the side, but the side Trons moved in to the center so they couldn't see Edge until he came out of the middle of them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by ProtoWolf (talk • contribs) 17:43, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

text: -ok, i couldnt think of a good way to word the part about the WrestleMania set so heres the link to the wwe.com article describing the set Don.-.J 20:31, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2 Things 

message: I believe this was the first WrestleMania to use white ring ropes so I think it should be noted here.Ppcha 17 16:47, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How about the ring ropes? 

message: I believe her name was Joyce Fahart or something similiar. If someone can confirm the name, is there any reason not to add her name. Right now, she's just refered to as "The Sheik's widow." Gavyn Sykes 17:49, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Joyce Farhat she is. The WWE Hall of Fame article has already set a precedent for adding the acceptee's name so yeah, add it. Suriel1981 17:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Sheik's widow 

message: This year mark cena and undertaker defeating stables at this years wrestlemania, Undertaker defeating all former Evloution members (Batista, Flair, Orton, and HHH) and Cena defeating current and founder DX members (HBK and HHH). Should this be notice under the triva columm? or ignored? Dro Boy April 2, 2007
I think ignore is the common view. Darrenhusted 20:20, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cena winning 

message: Is this the first time that the World Tag Team Champions faced each other at wrestlemania. This is not to be confused with the WWE Tag Team Champions which were Eddie Guerrero and Rey Mysterio. They faced at Wrestlemania 21. Does anyone know if the World Tag Team Champions ever faced each other in a singles match at Wrestlemania? Please tell me! Big Boss 0 22:06, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It might well be the first time recognised World Tag Champs have faced off for a recognised World Title at a major supershow in North America. I don't really have the personal inclination to check all the records but previous occasions don't spring to memory ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹SpeakSign 22:49, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: World Tag Team Champions

message: Shouldn't it be noted that with Taker winning, this marks the 7th Straight Wrestlemania that the winner of the Royal Rumble Match went on to win the WWE/World Heavyweight Title? 24.239.158.35 00:20, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO, no. TJ Spyke 00:22, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You could note it at Royal Rumble#Records and statistics, it's more interesting than several of the points they have there already. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹SpeakSign 00:33, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  7th Straight 

message: Do you think that we should mention something about the fan running into the ring before the bell rang for the Cena-Michaels match? MakeDamnSure 01:01, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ugh, I wish people would read the talk page before starting an old topic: #Fan Interference. TJ Spyke 01:04, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: No. Also, there's already a section about that up above a bit. ---- GIGGAS2 | Talk 01:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your edit. I reverted it because we've already reached a consensus on this issue. ---- GIGGAS2 | Talk 01:05, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fan Run-In? 

message: I thought that wasn't notable... people keep adding it. I removed it after TheDingbat added it... So before we add it more and start a war over it, let's discuss it here... Everything I've read puts that piece of trivia as not notable. ---- GIGGAS2 | Talk 21:49, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It isn't notable. Even if Triple H had been a member at WM 22, I wouldn't consider it notable. So Cena defeated 2 of the founding members of DX, that seems like something is a little interesting but not something that will matter. TJ Spyke 21:55, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I agree with TJ. It is interesting, but not encyclopedic. Peace, -- The Hybrid 22:12, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the same thing with Undertaker now defeating every member of Evolution at WM. Interesting, something perhaps to put in the article for the individual wrestler, but not in the WM article. Anakinjmt 22:39, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: The "silent majority" is wrong for the reasons up above. I can guarantee you it won't come up on TV. ---- GIGGAS2 | Talk 00:09, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Also, silent majorities don't get noticed, or obeyed, due to their silence. -- The Hybrid 00:13, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *LMAO* In all seriousness though anyone citing the beliefs of the silent majority would need to provide proof per WP:A. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹SpeakSign 15:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  D-Generation X Trivia 

message: Cena winning with the STFU is not notable, he uses that move once a week. Not winning with is more note worthy, and even then it shouldn't be in a WM article, unless someone goes back and adds "Undertaker won with the Tombstone" and "Hogan won with the Leg-Drop" to every other WM article. Darrenhusted 10:49, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A: He doesn't use it every week, at least on RAW (who knows if he uses it at house shows) B: It's policy to say how the match ended, either "So-and-so pinned what's-his-face after a whatever-move" or "So-and-so made what's-his-face submit using the whatever-move" That's how it's been done. Anakinjmt 15:06, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Am I missing something? It does list the move, "Cena forced Michaels to submit with the STFU". TJ Spyke 21:27, 4 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I originally put it in (when making the note about it being the second year in a row he main evented), but I agree that it is NN and have since removed it myself as well. TJ Spyke 23:54, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cena's Winning Move 

message: How do I put a picture that I took on to the page?  I think it is a good picture and it can be found here, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wrestlemania23_002.jpg Stealthpirate07 01:49, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a nice picture, but we already have a picture of the arena (filled with fans). There isn't really a need for 2. I wish you had taken the same picture when the arena was filled with fans, because then it would have been better than the current one. TJ Spyke 01:59, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have better ones from that same vantage point.  Did you mean with the arena filled or not filled? You said the same thing twice.  The seats are empty in that picture. Stealthpirate07 02:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

text: with the arena filled. Bmg916SpeakSign 02:03, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What I meant is that we only need 1 picture of the arena, preferably filled with fans (which the current picture has). If your picture had been filled with fans, I would have supported replacing it. Also, you sign at the end of your posts. TJ Spyke 02:07, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about this one, http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Wrestlemania23_019.jpg Stealthpirate07 02:12, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is definitely a lot better. Could you upload more to see which one would be best?-- bulletproof 3:16 02:19, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is a great pic. I agree with bulletproof, do you have any others? I would be fine with this being the new pic, but would like to know if you have any others that would be better. TJ Spyke 02:28, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, heres just a few more that aren't smoky and are clear. Personally I like that second one I uploaded because it shows everything clearly and it even has Jeff Hardy's Pyro going off. http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/Stealthpirate07 Stealthpirate07 02:34, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I say we use this one - Wrestlemania23 017.jpg. Nicely done Stealthpirate07.-- bulletproof 3:16 02:35, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I like 19 best, then 17. TJ Spyke 02:38, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Pick which ever one you want, But I like 19 also.Stealthpirate07 02:40, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 19's alright but I like 17 more because the stage is in its neutral setting and doesn't have the "money in the bank" graphic or Jeff Hardy's pyro going off. You can also see more of the crowd in 17 than in 19.-- bulletproof 3:16 02:41, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I vote for 17. I also vote Stealth is a lucky bastard for getting to be at WrestleMania live. Bmg916SpeakSign 02:43, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

text: 17 is a great pic,  Its right after the start of the show.  It was fun to go and I really like how some of my pictures turned out.  I even got to see Maria up close outside before the event.Stealthpirate07 02:49, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yea, you're pics turned out real well man. That's sweet about Maria, because unlike most of the Divas she's actually HOT in person and isn't caked with makeup (i.e. Candice Michelle, I saw her at the NYR 06 press conference....ew). Bmg916SpeakSign 02:51, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Did you take any pics of the MITB match? Because the current one is not that great (it's too far away and blurry). BTW, glad you enjoyed the show. I can accept pic 17, why don't you go ahead and upload it to Wikipedia? Just click on the "Upload file" link on the left side of the screen and follow the instructions. TJ Spyke 02:53, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

text: No, none of the MITB match pictures came out good. All the pics that came out great were shots of everything.  Zooming in on the ring was blurry. Stealthpirate07 03:05, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm glad you enjoyed the show. I suggest #17 for the crowd image, that looks great. By the way, I've put your Maria image on her article now. -- Oakster  Talk  10:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've got to disagree about the pic, and I'm not just saying that because I want my picture on the article, but, in my pic's defense, mine is from the top of the stadium and truly encompasses the fact that there's 80,000+ people there, while the other one, while good, is missing a good portion of the audience. Kyle C Haight 20:47, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So in your opinion... these pics   of yours with that huge chunk of the 2nd bowl above you blocking the veiw of the ring, stage, and stadium, is a better pic than Stealthpirate's photo?-- bulletproof 3:16 22:38, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That kid's head blocking the shot is a nice touch too.-- bulletproof 3:16 23:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How To put new picture 

message: I've noticed many WWE fans were dissapointed with the "All Grown up" tag line, some calling it a rushed and sudden because of the fact the first tagline "Detroit will never be the same" was hastily dropped for some reason. --ÄtΘmicR€£igionesїgñ
:1)Where have you seen this, because I have not seen any criticism. 2)It has nothing to do with this article. TJ Spyke 04:04, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Critisizm 

message: The main article says they generated about $25 million dollars for the event, but most websites and news sites are reporting that WrestleMania 23 generated around $30 million Click here for article. I think the article should be updated with this new info. I personally cant edit cuz the articles been locked to non-users.
:give them a chance because they have billioons of pages to edit also the fact is that the revenue changes almost every day so the fact it is 25 million is because that at the time it was 25 million see where i coming from -deadman_lastride666
::The WWE corporate website (which is more reliable than Rajah) says $25 million. TJ Spyke 22:53, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: WrestleMania 23 revenue

message: It is against Wikipedia:Fair_use#Policy to use a copyrighted image to replace a free-use one. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹SpeakSign 16:03, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, that's one guy blocked for copyright abuse. Lets hope it doesn't have to happen again. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹SpeakSign 18:41, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: Were they anyone specific to Detroit ? Maybe the Detroit Pistons or the Lions ? Hermiod 21:14, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It has to be the Pistons instead of the Lions, if anyone.  The reason is that the Lions do not have cheerleaders. - Desmond Hobson 16:52, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  MVP's Cheerleaders 

message: Okay, is the phrasing going to be: The ending video package music was "The Memory Will Never Die" by Default or The secondary theme was "The Memory Will Never Die" by Default...? Let it be known that either way I couldn't give a shhhhhhh....ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 05:47, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Judging by sporadic edits over the last week it seems that some users really do care. Which is cool with me, no worries, I know it's just about getting the article right. I just don't want the situation to escalate ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 06:06, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's all compromise. Watch the page. -- The Hybrid 06:14, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah, I think WWE.com lists it as a theme song, though obviously Ladies and Gentlemen is primary. Anakinjmt 15:22, 9 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Works for me. Anakinjmt 22:08, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds great, nobody can reasonably have an issue with that. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 22:31, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds fine with me. TJ Spyke 22:34, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops I just saw this... Yeah sure no prob. I was just trying to be consistent with the rest of the Mania articles but either way is cool with me.-- bulletproof 3:16 22:45, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Consensus required to prevent edit-warring

message: ¡Ay caramba! ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 23:04, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with you on that, Darren.  There are much bigger things in the world, and even on Wikipedia, to worry about.  At least I can still read about what happened. - Desmond Hobson 16:54, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's the backstage dance segment, the page protection was requested by Rob (who also seems to be the only one who really opposes it). TJ Spyke 21:45, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: page protected

message: Shouldn't there be mentioned that The Undertaker made his WrestleMania streak 15-0 and at the same time made himself the 15th (regognized by WWE) World Heavyweight Champion? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 88.218.49.232 (talk) 08:07, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was decided long ago not to mention Undertaker's win streak on individual WM articles. It is mentioned at the main WM article though. Also, Undertaker is technically the 10th champion, it's only 15/16 if you count Triple H and Batista's reigns as seperate (i.e. consider Triple H as the 1st, 3rd, 5th, 8th and 9th/10th champion). TJ Spyke 08:19, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undertaker's 15-0 

message: For the picture of the money in the bank dont u think a picture of JEff HArdy doing tht crazy leg drop tht BROKE the ladder would capture the essecene of the match better then a dark low quality pic of Mr. Kennedy getting the briefcase. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.45.185.117 (talk • contribs) 
We only accept free-use pictures (see WP:COPYRIGHT) ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹Speak 19:45, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  MITB