Talk:Tahir Shah

message: These statements are unsourced, and I am also not sure how encyclopedically relevant they are. "Governorship" in the RHS is, if memory serves, bestowed for donations paid; it is, I believe, a purely ornamental title that does not entail any involvement in the actual running of the charity. I suppose membership in the Athenaeum Club and Travellers Club is biographically more relevant, as these clubs are choosy about whom they will admit as a member, but even so, if would be nice to have sources (perhaps a Who is Who or something like that) mentioning these memberships. 
Note that the clubs mentioned are not academic institutions; the wording here was thus somewhat unfortunate. Any memberships in academic institutions should be listed separately, with citations of reliable sources given. Jayen466 14:37, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Governor of the Royal Humane Society, memberships in [[gentlemen's club]]s

message: Regarding family origins and life: "According to his father's obituary", the source is an article on the front page of http://www.idriesshah.com/ . The author of the article and owner of the website are not specified, nor is there any indication of whether this material was used and subsequently published elsewhere.
Is this OK, or am I just being pedantic and mistaken? See WP:RS.
The previous source was "According to his book In Arabian Nights, Shah was born ..." which I guess also fell short of WP's standards? EricT (talk) 17:41, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you, Eric. I've had a look and can't see any indication of this obituary having been published by a reliable source. For the moment, could you revert it to "According to his book ...", and we can have a look if we can find something more solid (could also be something published about his sister's family background, am still looking)? I've had a look at the Doris Lessing obit, but it does not go into that detail. Jayen466 17:51, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Would you mind doing the reversion, please, Jayen? I'm still very much a novice here. EricT (talk) 17:56, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Jayen466 18:02, 23 September 2008 (UTC)

text:  ... and better reference found. Jayen466 19:11, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Obituary source reliable? 

message: Wikipedia articles must not be used as sources. The same applies to sites that borrow and mirror Wikipedia content.
Example: "One example of this work is the Qantara Foundation[ref]http://www.nationmaster.com/encyclopedia/Tahir-Shah[/ref]" (now reverted) EricT (talk) 14:05, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Especially when the reference is to the same article "Tahir Shah" borrowed from Wikipedia. Altogether too self-referential :) EricT (talk) 14:19, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:SPS]] Wikipedia sources 

message: See here. Jayen466 19:56, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Much as I hate to say it, I think you're right to raise these issues concerning the editing of this article and also the possibility of a cottage industry regarding associates of the editors. 86.149.22.127 (talk) 08:06, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Report on Conflict of Interest noticeboard 

message: Linked articles have recently been created for several books by Tahir Shah, which is very much welcomed. Most of the descriptions seem to be based in part on web pages containing already-published material (see the book articles' talk pages) and may need a cleanup-rewrite? EricT (talk) 13:25, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Articles on Tahir Shah's books 

message: Have created: Works by Tahir Shah and Books by Tahir Shah and linked the book articles to 'Books by ...' Esowteric (talk) 13:23, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Books (and other works) by Tahir Shah 

message: Tahir Shah reports that he's just finished writing a novel, Hannibal Fogg and the Supreme Secret of Man, loosely based on the real-life explorer Hannibal Fogg. See Tahir's web site. Esowteric+Talk 11:13, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hannibal Fogg 

message: This article has become quite ... something again. Unsourced fluff like "Shah's style is one of simple prose and overwhelming humour, straining to educate and inform his readers, while at the same time amusing them. In this capacity, one could liken Shah's work to the literary devise employed in several books by his father, Idries Shah, who used the wise fool Mulla Nasruddin, to illustrate deeper ideas in human understanding." really has no business being here, nor do link farms to every interview and article by Shah ever published. Stuff like that should be on the author's website, not in Wikipedia. Wikipedia should focus on coverage of the subject in independent, reliable secondary sources. JN466 02:53, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Will leave others to look at the fluff. Regarding the link farm, would it be okay or better to create one or more list pages and link to the list/s in the biography, or to radically prune?  It's actually quite useful to have the lists as a centralized resource, though I quite see your point. Regards, Eric: Esowteric+Talk 07:18, 5 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It needs radical pruning. It's okay to have two or three major interviews, and perhaps three or four notable articles written for major publications, but right now it's completely over the top. We are linking to Tahir's website; if he wants to make that information available to people, he can do it there. Cheers, JN466 09:27, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

text: I apologize - I noticed this on Jayen's Talk page and cut right in, not initially realizing there was a COIN discussion. I took a VERY rough cut taking out external inks in the body, materials that only cite the subject's website or YouTube channel, unsourced content and other promotional or unhelpful info. I have probably cut out some useful content in the process, but it is better in my opinion. I also noticed all the books written by this author have promotional pages. Corporate 01:42, 6 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, CM. Much better. JN466 21:58, 8 October 2012 (UTC)
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