Talk:British Rail Class 220

message: There is a discussion about the naming convention to use for articles about British locomotive and multiple unit classes at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (British railway locomotive and multiple unit classes). Your comments are more than welcome. Thryduulf 22:28, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This article needs to be split.  The two classes are different. — Dunc|☺ 22:54, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

text: I think there are grounds for a split if and only if a lot more info is added. Too many people seem all too eager to deconstruct good articles into heaps of crappy stubs. Plugwash 12:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  A parent article like pacer (train) covering all classes 22x built by Bombardier to the same general design viz British Rail Class 220 British Rail Class 221 and British Rail Class 222 makes sense.  Also, a list of units and their names should be given which will take a fair bit of space. — Dunc|☺ 13:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming convention

message: : This article needs to be split.  The two classes are different. — Dunc|☺ 22:54, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there are grounds for a split if and only if a lot more info is added. Too many people seem all too eager to deconstruct good articles into heaps of crappy stubs. Plugwash 12:54, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  A parent article like pacer (train) covering all classes 22x built by Bombardier to the same general design viz British Rail Class 220 British Rail Class 221 and British Rail Class 222 makes sense.  Also, a list of units and their names should be given which will take a fair bit of space. — Dunc|☺ 13:04, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Split?

message: am i right in thinking that the couplers on theese can be folded down and a screw coupling attached for shunting etc? Plugwash 03:55, 9 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Meanwhile at Virgin X Country top management has privately accepted that the Voyager fleet is a flock of turkeys and plans are well advanced for a completely new train to operate down here [South West England].  Can't at present reveal the exact details but this new train has been undergoing extensive testing for the last 30 years under a secret name starting with H and ending with T.
Thryduulf 19:10, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  couplers 

message: I thought the Class 91 uses it (can't immediately find a source, but have you heard an Intercity 225 as it arrives in the station—or seen the heat haze above the power car?) and according to the Wikipedia article on the Class 90, that does too.
This particular configuration of rheostatic braking may be unusual but surely rheostatic braking in itself is not. Roy Badami 22:50, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rheostatic braking is <i>unusual</i> in the UK??? 

message: Is this really relevant? I think not, but ya know, I'll see what you lot think  beeblebrox (talk) 19:56, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Model train info 

message: Someone wrote "The Classes 220, 221 and 222 are all made by Bombadier transportation of Canada. The Class 390 (Pendolino) is made by Alstom, creators of the Eurostar and TGV. The two companies worked jointly on the Acela for American railway Amtrak." The units are not built in canada. The units are built in Belgum and Wakefield, UK. The Class 390 were built in Washwood Heath, UK.
:I think the important word is of, this mean that the company comes from Canada, not that the trains were built there Talltim (talk) 17:38, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Units built in Canada? No. 

message: I reorganised the article - adding some info and removing some images.
The article probably needs a "reference improve tag" - specifically subjective comments such as passenger problems should have references. I haven't added the tag as yet.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by FengRail (talk • contribs) 14:17, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: tidy

message: The two references for this seem to contradict each other - one says a bird got lodged in the brakes - the other suggests the fire was in the air vents.
Can anyone clarify this. Thanks.FengRail (talk) 19:14, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the mention of Bournemouth, because neither source mentions Bournemouth. Further, both sources state that the train was going to Derby; one source (the Oxford Mail one) gives the time as "at 4.25pm", the other (Banbury Guardian) states 'Watch manager Darren Gough said: "We were called at 4.26pm ..."'. If the train was on time, then according to the Dec 2007-May 2008 timetable, this would have been the 15:40 from Reading to Derby (arr. 18:34), which would have called Banbury 16:25. Of course it could have been the 13:45 from Bournemouth running late, which should have called Banbury 15:53, but that is an Edinburgh service (arr 22:24). --Redrose64 (talk) 22:01, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Banbury fire

message: I can't find anything saying why there is no coach B on these trains... can anyone explain and add it to the article? -mattbuck (Talk) 21:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know for sure but I suspect it's to make reservation management easier in a mixed fleet of voyagers and super voyagers. Plugwash (talk) 11:07, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I seem to remember they actually have a coach F though. -mattbuck (Talk) 11:50, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coach B 

message: Hi. Just to let you know, the Commons category for Class 220s is now completely sorted by operator and livery. -mattbuck (Talk) 21:59, 7 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Commons images

message: Why does it say the train "look(s) like it's tilting" in the photo's caption?  The train does not look like it is tilting; it merely looks like it is running on super-elevated tracks, and the suspension gives no indication of tilt.  Besides, there is a distinct appearance of tilting with tilting trains.
71.181.165.31 (talk) 15:53, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree and I have deleted that comment. -- Alarics (talk) 05:35, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Langston Rock photo

message: British Rail had long ceased to exist as a railway operator by the time that the Voyager trains were intriduced (or even thought of).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.155.4.249 (talk) 01:55, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: See the topic #Naming convention above. - David Biddulph (talk) 02:00, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: See also Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways/Archive 20#Naming convention. --Redrose64 (talk) 07:14, 1 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  'British Rail' Class 220? 

message: Would it be best to delete the information regarding the Sea Wall restriction as it is difficult to provide citation? The information is not in the public domain (although it does exist). Atari001 (talk) 02:47, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation regarding Dawlish Sea Wall restrictions 

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