Talk:Sebastian Thrun

message: Yet another article linking to a questionable POV article by WIRED, a magazine based in close proximity to Stanford University and known as some sort of Stanford megaphone.  Before the 2005 DARPA Grand Challenge, Sebastian Thrun and many others predicted that this time with very high probability there would be a winner, and in fact four separate teams managed to finish the course in time, which suggests that the task was not that hard. Previous autonomous cars actually drove further and faster, at least on streets. But after the somewhat lucky victory of Stanford's Stanley, facilitated by a technical glitch of CMU's Sandstorm, Thrun suddenly changed his mind and fueled the hype by claiming: "The impossible has been achieved!" According to the WIRED article, he later publicly compared himself to Charles Lindbergh - LOL - I felt reminded of a chicken comparing itself to an eagle.  As if that were not enough, soon afterwards the Stanford AI lab home page also claimed that Stanford's Volkswagen is "the best robot ever", citing another ridiculous article of WIRED. Few if any unbiased roboticists outside the San Franciso area would agree - what kind of "experts" did WIRED poll? Maybe cartoonists, since Number 2 of the their top 10 list is a fictional Japanese comic strip robot. The other cars that finished shortly after the lucky winner are not even mentioned... Actually I don't think any mere car would rank anywhere near the top 5 of a serious robot list, which would be dominated by Japanese robots - real ones, not fictional ones - since Japan dominates research in this field and has 40 percent of the world's robots, including many of the most sophisticated and famous ones. I am not sure what's the Wikipedia policy on this, but I feel it would be better to remove the WIRED link and similar POVs. De-Hyping Stan 17:46, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV: Wired Magazine's Local Patriotism & Post DARPA Race Hype  

message: Some claim there was progress since the US teams in the earlier 2004 DARPA Grand Challenge failed. Picking the 2004 race as a straw man for a good bashing! But of course the real reference point is what Ernst Dickmanns achieved ten years earlier. In 1995 his car autonomously drove up to 158 km, nearly the same distance as the traffic-free 2005 DARPA Grand Challenge, but much faster, and in traffic. Without GPS, using only computer vision, which apparently was much more sophisticated than the vision used in the GPS-based DARPA races. I cannot see any significant technological innovations or progress here. And even the upcoming 2007 Grand Challenge looks rather tame when compared to what Dickmanns did. Truecobb 21:12, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The long shadow of [[Ernst Dickmanns]] 

message: I see at many (really many) articles about Sebastian Thrun that someone posted bizarre comments relating him to the death of May Zhou, but couldn't find any official source about the case. Someone has clearly started a cyberstalking campaign against Thrun and I'm amazed that this person didn't post anything here. We should take care here that none of these comments get into the article (unless very reliable sources are provided). Possibly, this article will have to be protected.Informatiker23 (talk)
Yes. I have confirmed these bizarre comments by Peter Cao linked to every news article about Sebastian Thrun or Eric Schmidt.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.92.48.217 (talk) 18:42, 18 June 2012 (UTC)
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