Talk:PlayStation 3/Archive 8

message: could an admin lock down this page please? spam is really getting annoying. --Gatoatigrado 18:48, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Truly speaking, I fail to see a "massive" amount of vandalism. -- ReyBrujo 19:35, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah I guess looking at it 10+ bad edits a day aren't too bad. I'm sorry I put the request up before asking anyone else. If people get annoyed, I suppose a revert is okay with me. Nevertheless, it makes the history messy and there's a small chance (okay...at most 1/50) that a user will get a bad page. --Gatoatigrado 19:59, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem, if an admin locks the page he must have reviewed the situation and considered the lock was in place. However, you will find worse situations (like when Revolution was renamed Wii, the Natalie Merchant article, or some article like Gay, George W. Bush and the like). -- ReyBrujo 20:13, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just attack the vandals' weak point for massive damage. Roffler 22:45, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Okay I guess they removed it; sorry to complain. I guess I'm not used to such a massive system where bots and many users have time to revert things quickly. --Gatoatigrado 00:21, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

text: By the way, this is what inspired most of the phantom insider **** I believe. . sony denied it of course, saying that it would be unfair to developers who have been working with the real hardware for several months now. --Gatoatigrado 00:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  partial lock 

message: I put this up because of an article (link in previous sentence) but I think that it might be corporate speculation anyway. Please feel free to delete it.
"He also stated that it could run Darwin or Windows, but there is no evidence either companies would release a licensed version."
: --Gatoatigrado 20:05, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  How is that possible? Microsoft and Apple's apps are (now) based on the x86 core by intel. Unless the cell is x86 based, I'm not seeing how Windows could run on it. I mean, yeah, possibly through emulation, but that is incredibly slow. -- Daniel Davis 02:43, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I know...the Darwin kernel can probably be recompiled and same with Windows, but it would take major participation from those corporations; quite unlikely. Perhaps darwin could be recompiled like it was for the Xbox 1, but the use of that isn't much. He said it, but it's probably wrong. I took it off. --69.214.12.27 22:15, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kutaragi speculation 

message: Article says PSGL would be based on modified version of OpenGL ES 1.0 which is totaly absurd. Truth lies within OpenGL ES 2.0. Please fix this inconvience.
:In the PDF which that is taken from, they said 2.0 came to late, could you give us a new source for your alligation? Havok (T/C/c) 10:26, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: it looks like they actually wanted to use it from the slides; please provide your source. if anyone wants to post page 6 from the only external link from the psgl article, with the image of collada, collada fx, and everything it might make the software development section more clear. --Gatoatigrado 00:41, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  OpenGL 

message: http://www.ps3scene.com/. i'm not related; i think it's a decent news site. --Gatoatigrado 00:30, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  link 

message: User:cyberskull added and asked if the PS3 is backwards compatable with PS1  - anyone know?HappyVR 12:54, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to nearly all the information out there, yes. I put a link right in the infobox for clarification, but it seems there is no "backwards" parameter for the infobox, so I can't see it. Dancter 17:39, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Already answered, see the "TRC" thing. pretty much a backwards compatibility list, but hopefully longer than Microsoft's. --Gatoatigrado 09:25, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Sony stated that, if they were unable to acieve 100% backwards compatibility thru emulation, they would just bundle the ps2 hardware inside the ps3.--Xymor 14:25, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ps 1

message: I didn't read the article (although I MIGHT have gotten my answer if I did), but can you use the PS2 memory card with the PS3? -- Sasuke-kun27 16:30, 26 June 2006
:NoHappyVR 20:33, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: PS2 memory card

message: does anyone know the difference between the blu ray transfer at the center of the disk and the outer edges? it's often quite a lot different. obviously at a fixed rpm more data goes by at the edges. --Gatoatigrado 00:06, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am very sure that the data transfer rate is consistant no matter what edge the data might be in proximity to.  Blu-ray is recorded in a CLV format like the compact disc and DVDs.--Kenn Caesius 01:32, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh okay; that's neat. It doesn't always happen with dvds though; I know my drive is faster near the edges. --69.221.241.71 16:19, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  blu ray transfer rate 

message: Apparently, on gamefront.de or something, Sony registered the controller name PooS, the oo is supposed to be the infinity symbol. Someone should look into this, 'cause I'm kind of busy. Ashton Brood 19:04, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh joy, let the "Wii" style jokes begin.  Is this the "running gag" console generation, or what? ;) — Wisq 19:52, 29 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Gamefront indeed posted that information. It's just a trademark, and as far as I can gather, the connection to PS3 is pure speculation. In any case, without any other information, it doesn't belong in Wikipedia. Can anyone even verify it on the Japanese trademark database? Dancter 22:35, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PooS 

message: * Amazon's UK website lists the Playstation 3 20 GB version for release on January 26th, 2007, however this is not officially confirmed 
by Sony.
:The current statements from sony sugggest that only the 60GB version will be released in the uk - maybe amazon haven't checked their facts? if sony have changed their minds I'm sure we will hear about it before long.HappyVR 16:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Therefore the "not officially confirmed". If you're not going to post it immediately, then make sure you don't miss it, if it is confirmed. --69.221.241.71 18:17, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Retailers are not known for being very reliable when it comes to release dates for video game merchandise. The statement was probably removed because someone did not consider Amazon a reliable source. Dancter 18:31, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  okay, I guess it's not that reliable, but it's still up. Anyone know why the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 cost $125 and $170 more in the UK than the US? --69.221.241.71 21:20, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the they cost more in the UK as Sony and MS have to pay higher import taxes than in the US and i also believe that US prices are also shown exclusive of sales tax or what is called in the UK: VAT (Value Added Tax). Correct me here if i'm really off the mark. --TheEnlightened 21:34, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's neat; thanks for the information. Definitely not necessary to explain in the article, but thanks. 30 percent is a much bigger markup than US taxes; personally I'm not a supporter of regressive taxes. --Gatoatigrado 06:52, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

text: At the moment VAT in the UK is 17.5% and i have no idea what the import tax is or how it works. or if there is a European Union tax aswell. It should also be noted that most companies then boost up their prices even more (thus the name "Rip off Britain". I didn't think it should go in the article just thought you wanted to know. TheEnlightened 16:35, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: uk 20 gb PS3

message: From retail price section:
"Sony has also defended their 2 SKU scheme, as the $500 version includes a hard drive, whereas the Xbox 360 Core version does not."
Why is this needed?HappyVR 18:52, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: well, you can get rid of it, but we have the other defending quote...old news anyway. keep the format fix i did though. --Gatoatigrado 19:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

text: yeah i guess we need to let users decide for themselves...delete other sony fluff talk? I actually think it would be a lot more clean if we didn't have all of the "important people" crud. such as the quote with "If you can have an amazing experience, we believe price is not a problem." We aren't trying to sell the PS3 or provide people's opinions on the price. --Gatoatigrado 19:12, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think some of those quotes are of debateable importance yes. We don't have to remove every single one. Some external feedback might be good. Maybe we could get someone from a non-console background to have a look at it and see what they think?HappyVR 15:02, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: sony defending 2 sku

message: Removal:
While the power of the Playstation brand name will likely generate a substantial amount of fan loyalty, there has also been a significant amount of consumer backlash over the price, with a online community called "Wii60" which focuses on the fact that the price of one PS3 is equivalent to the cost of both competing consoles (Nintendo has publically stated that their console will retail for under $250).
Does anyone (except User:Legend78) think this is relevant enough for this article; the part about the Wii60 movement. Part of the article about sony selling x million consoles just because of the playstation name also has been lost on edits.HappyVR 14:23, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the "Wii60" is FOS like the Haunted Apiary, although much more blatant. The "Wii60" article was deleted, and has no place in Wikipedia. Microsoft and Nintendo are just collecting all of the negative comments about the PS3, because they don't want it to be as successful as the PS2. Their points are somewhat flawed; the price(Xbox360premium + WirelessAdapter + HdDvdExtension + Wii + 2yearsXboxLive) is nearly $1000 (assuming they can get the price of the HD-DVD extension below 100, as they said they will try to make the whole cost less than the ps3), compared to the PS3 at $600. Obviously, once the rip off accessories (the wireless adapter costs $5 manufacturing, sold for $100) necessary to make these things equal to the PS3 are added, their point (that Xbox360 + Wii = 600) is much less compelling. I guess the PS3 is appealing to me from a technological standpoint as well. By the way, I own an Xbox 360, and I'm happy with it. I don't know why owning one system makes people hate the other. --69.214.11.36 16:58, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wii60