Talk:President's Emergency Plan for AIDS Relief

message: As it is now 2010, and the initial phase of the program is "over," should sections be added to discuss results of the program? Wolfraem (talk) 18:00, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Results? 

message: I just viewed a YouTube video about PEPFAR (July 2012). I think what they are talking about is FDA approval of drug formulations that (somehow) were not previously available under the PEPFAR program. I don't think they are talking about new active ingredients.
This article would be improved by a list (or link to list) of drugs made available by PEPFAR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azazUDiST2I
Johnfravolda (talk) 09:30, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  FDA "promo" video on PEPFAR - 150 Antiretroviral Drugs? 

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message: PEPFAR is fine, the issue was the American government defending the Big Pharma patents in 2000, 2001, 2002 and preventing the rest of the world from getting life saving medication to Africa. So Cipla broke the HAART patents and America went to bat for Big Pharma under both Clinton and W Bush obstructing the rest of the world from saving lives. So only after America was defeated by the rest of the world did Bush bail out Big Pharma with a gift of buying their expensive medication when the rest of the world was going with the affordable generics India and Brazil were sending to Africa. Make no mistake—this was a very bad episode for America and PEPFAR is simply propaganda designed to “save face” when at any time before Big Pharma was defeated they could have offered their drugs at cost to be distributed in Africa. Fortunately the UN and Global Fund and Clinton Foundation, and Gates and Bono were busy developing infrastructure to distribute the medication while the American government was siding with Big Pharma. Clam chowdah (talk) 20:42, 2 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  American government defended Big Pharma 

message: I added very important historical context because the heroes of the crisis that PEPFAR addressed were Cipla and DWB and UNAIDS and not George W Bush. PEPFAR was CYA in which the American taxpayer overpaid for medication which did end up saving Africans. I didn’t add that PEPFAR was introduced when Bush was about to invade Iraq which probably should be added because it was essentially like buying credits to absolve one of sins…except these credits did save lives with only the American taxpayers getting screwed because cheaper generics were available. Clam chowdah (talk) 04:39, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Important historical context has been added 

message: In case there are any page watchers to whom this might be of interest, I have opened a Wikipedia:No original research/Noticeboard discussion concerning 's recent edits to this article here. Regards,TheTimesAreAChanging (talk) 10:09, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  No original research/Noticeboard discussion 

message: First paragraph is self serving and unprovable. That paragraph is fine for the George W Bush Library but should not be in a Wikipedia article. If no one is able to independently verify the first paragraph then it will be removed. Clam chowdah (talk) 22:38, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Tobias was the former CEO of Eli Lily that left politics due to a scandal according to his Wikipedia page. And so the chronology makes clear the precipitating factor was the introduction of generics into Africa and so PEPFAR was really a way to get the brand name drugs to Africa by fleecing American taxpayers while treating fewer patients. So from Center for Public Integrity:
Cipla chairman Hamied told the Center that if PEPFAR used generics in place of brand-name drugs, it could treat 10 times the number of HIV-infected patients that now receive treatment. PEPFAR’s own study this year found some examples of generic ARVs costing as little as a 10th of the price of their brand-name counterparts.
https://publicintegrity.org/health/pepfar-policy-hinders-treatment-in-generic-terms/ Clam chowdah (talk) 21:30, 11 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticism should focus on generics and Tobias