Talk:Saturation diving

message: It would help the naive reader, if this solution-oriented article mentioned what problem that saturation is trying to solve. I'm guessing it has something to do with "the bends", i.e., decompression sickness. Could we say something about that in the intro, please? --Uncle Ed (talk) 13:04, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point, Ed. I'm uncomfortable adding information to the lead that isn't covered in the main part of the article, so I've added an introductory section about decompression sickness. Hopefully this will go some way to making the article clearer. Please feel free to edit it mercilessly if you can improve it. --RexxS (talk) 14:19, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
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Looks good, will upgrade. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 09:53, 26 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment for B-class 

message: The Article currently speaks of E.End and M.Nohl "spending 27 hours breathing air at 101 feet (31 m) in the County Emergency Hospital". Now the meaning of "at 101 feet" needs to be explained further to be understandable to a layman. My guess is, what is meant is: "air at a pressure equivalent to a depth of 101 feet under water". Probably in a pressure chamber, as I find it unlikely that a hospital should have a water tank over 100 ft deep. --BjKa (talk) 11:12, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: What it actually says is . However, the units should be fsw and msw as they refer to pressure, not depth. Do you consider this sufficiently clear, or should we specify that a hospital recompression facility is not underwater? I will add a link anyway. • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 19:40, 15 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  History (End & Nohl) 

message: : What is the record depth? In the History section it talks about 690 metres, but in the "Depth records" section it says the record is only 534 metres. I suspect the History section is worded wrongly, and that the divers didn't actually dive at all, since it was at the Duke University Medical Center! Eric Kvaalen (talk) 12:53, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: , it was not an open water dive. Probably dry, certainly in a chamber, but there are a few chambers with wet sections. I don't know the installation, but if it was at Duke there may well be something at the Rubicon Research Repository or you could ping  who used to work there. In the diving community a chamber compression is commonly referred to as a dive, and by some legislation is also legally a dive. So the reality is maybe a little arguable. I tend to use the terminology of the industry, and so do many other editors. I don't remember whether this is defined anywhere on Wikipedia, I will see if I can find anything. Cheers, • • • Peter (Southwood) (talk): 19:51, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
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message: * No mention of voice changes with heliox?
*:Linked to Diver communications#Hyperbaric speech distortion. Will this do or should I expand the section in this article too?
* And ""helium de-scrambler"s aka heliphones?
*: see above
* Nothing about the North Sea?
*:Added a new section on "Applications" and linked to other articles, but need references for some local content. My feeling is that the North sea is a bit tangential to this article, maybe more relevant to Offshore commercial diving, but you are the reader, what do you think?
* Pay? Hint: Why Do You Think People Do This...
*:I know why people do this. It is big money when you can get the work, but high risk and not what I would do for fun. What can be said that is encyclopaedic and is well-referenced?
...and all those sections of referenced text! 
- Snori (talk) 07:39, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: , I am not getting your point here. Are you proposing some improvements? · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 13:56, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I was surprised to find such an interesting topic had a long article - but it seemed not to include many of the things that I find interesting about it. My preference is for readability for the average Wikipedia reader. My guess is that you're much more a Subject Matter Expert than I am, but yes, I will try to make some improvements at some point in the next week or so. I'll likely just Be Bold, so of course revert me if I do any actual harm to the article. - Snori (talk) 16:34, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Go ahead . I am going to amend your changes to the lead a bit as I think you have removed too much and it does not sufficiently summarise the article. Feel free to create new sections where you think encyclopaedic information is lacking, and if you have good references we can work from them. One thing that I will point out is that saturation diving may be best known currently for offshore diving, but originally was used in much shallower habitat applications, so the current lead is a bit misleading. I have no problem with providing things that will interest the average reader, but as you surmise, I am a bit non-average when it comes to diving, and though I have never been a sat diver, I am fairly familiar with the theory and history. Please take a look at the commercial offshore diving article, it may have some of the stuff you were looking for. You may also fid relevant material in diver communications. Maybe it is inadequately linked. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 16:57, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It was inadequately linked, so your comments have already helped improve the article. I would really appreciate if you would list any other things that should and could be improved. Customer feedback is useful to improve the service.· · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 17:56, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Good stuff, nice to see that we can work together - just a pity that I have limited time for editing. - Snori (talk) 18:24, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: If you are short of time, focus on suggestions, and if you can find accessible references, list them. Cheers, · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 07:25, 6 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Come on!

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Reference named "CoP Training":
From List of legislation regulating underwater diving: 
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replies: text: Effectively identical. No problem. Fixed. · · · Peter (Southwood) (talk): 13:56, 7 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Saturation diving]] 

message: Both of the lead images, taken 12 months apart, are of Navy divers working on USS Monitor, which is at a depth of . There is no way that a working diver will not be doing saturation diving to do jobs at that depth. The earlier image specifically states "Staples and other U.S. Navy saturation divers are working around the clock ...". In both pictures you can clearly see the diver's umbilical which is supplying hot water, comms and their breathing gas, which is almost certainly heliox for a USN diver working at depth. In any case, saturation diving does not depend on the gas breathed. I'm satisfied that the later image is representative of a saturation diver, so I'll restore it. --RexxS (talk) 00:19, 26 October 2019 (UTC)
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From Thermodynamic model of decompression:  – Bruce Wienke describes the differences between RGBM and VPM
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