Talk:Gooseberry

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Despite the previous anonymous edit, it *is* true that the kiwifruit is still referred to as the Chinese gooseberry in Australia, at least in places - I've seen it so labelled in shops - presumably a symptom of Aussie/Kiwi rivalry.  seglea 00:02, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)

message: The article duly notes that some taxonomists prefer not to put gooseberries in Ribes. As a statement of fact I think this is fine.  I think it's right that the article not take sides in this debate (though in real life I think most people have already reached the right conclusion on this one <grin>). However, I don't feel comfortable with the quasi-editorialising phrase "this seems inappropriate" in the second paragraph of the article. I suspect this is not NPOV, but it's difficult for me to tell, as I'm not neutral in this debate. Unless anyone has an objection, I'd like to rewrite the relevant sentence in what I hope will be a more neutral way. I'll wait a couple of days for feedback before acting, though.RomanSpa 01:13, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Separate Genus?

message: This article ignores the species native to North America, Ribes hirtellum.
67.169.70.77 (talk) 23:49, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point, this page shouldn't be called Gooseberry, it covers only one of several species, a species that is so susceptible to disease that it has had to be cross-bred with several of the American species. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 20:57, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: American Gooseberry?

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message: When I go to [] there's no article. What happened to it?--Toepoaster (talk) 18:15, 17 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Where's the Article?

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1. The latin name for the Gooseberry is Ribes uva-crispa.
2. It is not the same plant as the Indian Gooseberry, Chinese Gooseberry (Kiwi Fruit) or Barbados Gooseberry (a Cactus)
3. Gooseberries produce fruits in various colours including green, white and red depending on variety.
4. It is not unusual for bushes to crop for at least twenty years.
5. One serving of 100g raw gooseberries contains 40 Kcals.
6. One ancient belief tells how fairies would shelter from danger in the pickly bushes. This is how gooseberries became known as fayberries.
7. Competitive gooseberry growing was very popular, until the 1st world war there were 170 shows in the north of England.
8. Egton Bridge, eight miles from Whitby, is the setting for the oldest surviving gooseberry show in the country, established in 1800.  The show is held on the first Tuesday in August each year by the Egton Bridge Old Gooseberry Society.
Winning gooseberries can be the size of golf balls.
9. The classic Gooseberry Fool recipe has its origins in Tudor times.
10. The gooseberry has been crossed with the blackcurrent to produce the jostaberry.
I'm only here quickly, but maybe some info here is useful? GyroMagician (talk) 23:23, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Or maybe it was a direct copy/paste from Pickles & Preserves GyroMagician (talk) 23:52, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Which is a fairly poor copy/hack from Egton Gooseberry Show - sigh. GyroMagician (talk) 23:55, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clipped from article 

message: The first sentence in the section "Etymology" reads,
:"The "goose" in "gooseberry" has usually been seen as a corruption of either the Dutch word kruisbes or the allied German Krausbeere, or of the earlier forms of the French groseille."
If the final syllable in the Dutch "kruisbes" and the German "Krausbeere", that is, "bes" and "beere", mean "berry", then the initial phrase of the sentence 
:The "goose" in
should be removed because "gooseberry" appears to be a corruption of the entire word "kruisbes" or "Krausbeere". 
If that phrase is removed, then the subject of the next sentence should be amended to read:
"Alternatively, the word "goose"...".  – CorinneSD (talk) 21:00, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: The following paragraph appears in the section "Etymology":
:"It is also possible that it might be a corruption of "goods berry" (since that is what the Old English fēāberige literally means - see above in 'Distribution'), although what connection there may be to 'goods' is no longer known."
Is it possible that the corruption went in the opposite direction?  That is, the word "gooseberry" was corrupted to "goods berry" and then to fēāberige? – CorinneSD (talk) 21:09, 2 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Whole article on cultivation, etymology, characteristics...what does a gooseberry taste like" -2001:999:32:103F:246C:730C:F2F8:18DF (talk) 09:33, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: As someone who grows and loves to eat gooseberries, I can honestly only answer that they taste like gooseberries. When not fully ripe they are sharp/tart; most cultivars, especially those with red coloured berries, are quite sweet when fully ripe, although still with a slightly tart under-taste. But that's about all I can say. What do strawberries taste like? What do raspberries taste like? What does rhubarb taste like? How do you describe tastes? Peter coxhead (talk) 12:54, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I think they taste like kiwifruit. Plantsurfer 14:14, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly there's some kind of similarity to kiwis that aren't very ripe; passionfruit has also been suggested to me, although I wouldn't say that myself. They don't taste like blackcurrants or red currants, although there's some of the underlying sharpness, and like cranberries, they can be used unsweetened to make accompaniments to meat or fish. Peter coxhead (talk) 16:25, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  What do they taste like? 

message: It is written down in the article "It is native to Europe, northwestern Africa, west, south and southeast Asia". Check the real native distribution of this species, please, because I don't really think this terrain is such distinct so "Southeast Asia" is rather mistake and it should be "Southwest Asia" instead. As West Asia we may regard western Siberia or just Ural Mountains. The Near East where gooseberry is present is more frequent called "Southwest Asia". Maciek.Wikipedysta (talk) 18:30, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree, but can't find a source that clearly defines the Asian region of origin. There doesn't seem to be a good source providing a synthesis of origin across the wide geographic area implied by reference #3. --Zefr (talk) 20:41, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I suspect it's not clear what its native distribution was. The Flora of North America entry gives it as native only to "w, c Europe (including Great Britain); n Africa" and introduced into North America and other parts of northern Europe. However, Stace's Flora of the British Isles considers it to be introduced and then naturalized in Britain. Around where I live in the English Midlands, we find apparently wild gooseberry bushes with small fruits that look like the wild species as well as ones much closer to cultivated forms. This source is the clearest I can find, and I think that its distribution "Europe, the Caucasus, and Northern Africa" is as likely to be correct as any. Elsewhere it's likely to be an escape from cultivation. Peter coxhead (talk) 07:16, 3 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gooseberry distribution (origin)