Talk:Tourism in Indonesia

message: Tourism is a key part of the Indonesian economy, and something of great interest to foreigners. Unfortunely this contains no content :-( . For inspiration see articles for other countries like Tourism in Singapore. The category :Category:Tourism_in_Indonesia contains some additional information and articles available for reference. --Caniago 11:14, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Earlier comments

message: I'm not sure if the article is good if it has too many levels. Would it be better if the type of tourisms (nature, cultural, metropolitan(?)) to be placed at the first level? Some texts in under the "Main Attraction" heading can be placed on top, as the introduction. — Indon 13:25, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed the heading. Please revert if you don't like it. And also I removed a paragraph about housing in Bali, as I think it's a bit out of scope of the tourism. Sorry... ;-) — Indon 13:38, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, no, thats alright, thats good. Okay, We'll continue this tomorrow. I'm off to bed. Good night!! Imoeng 14:12, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headings 

message: I'm confused about the difference between notes, references and external links, though I've read WP:CITE. This article is full of outside links. I'm afraid if it is overcrowded with external links, it will confuse readers. I think we need to regularize these links. — Indon 09:59, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, basically, based on my understanding, notes are just for inline citations, like the small numbers thing. While references are for the "big" sources, where we use almost all of the information there. External links don't have to be the sources for information. About the "too many", the "judge" at WP:FA will ask for more I reckon, hehehehe. Yeah, I think its not that much. Cheers -- Imoeng 10:04, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes, References and External Links 

message: Do we have any statistics on the percentage of foreign visitors to each Island? I think that would be a useful addition to the Statistics section. I've not been able to find anything yet. --Bwmodular 09:18, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Statistics - Visitors by Island? 

message: As I have tried to explain I have none of my tourism books to hand, they are locked up in a storage unit, so from help from database and library catalogues -
could someone else insert these please as I am trawling the net and catalogues for more :) thank you!
===Assertion that NEI had visitors in 30's===
::http://www.charliechaplin.com/article.php3?id_article=46 for charlie chaplins visit in 1932 SatuSuro 10:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.baliforyou.com/bali/bali_guide/bali_conquest.htm for Barbara Hutton and another ref for charlie chaplins visit SatuSuro 10:14, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Refs for Hist section

message: ::http://www.charliechaplin.com/article.php3?id_article=46 for charlie chaplins visit in 1932 SatuSuro 10:12, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.baliforyou.com/bali/bali_guide/bali_conquest.htm for Barbara Hutton and another ref for charlie chaplins visit SatuSuro 10:14, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Assertion that NEI had visitors in 30's

message: Domestic and International travel needs to have separate sub-headings - clogged together there is insufficient separation. 
Domestic Tourism (?) or travel during Labuhan is possibly the largest number of people travelling at the same time anywhere on planet earth (once again my ref for that was from Kompas or Kedaulatan Rakyat from 1995 and is still in storage).
Domestic Travel or tourism is different from International in a number of significant ways. International tourists pay money to enter, therefore the revenue to government  can be significant compared to orang ziarah or local people returning to home and family at significant times of the year. Yes? SatuSuro 10:34, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Statistics

message: What a really great collaboration, this is a very good start, guys! Cheers -- Imoeng 04:16, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. — Indon (reply) — 05:08, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Amazing what can be done in a week! --Bwmodular 08:16, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Great collaboration

message: Again, about citation. Per WP:CITE, there are 3 different citation styles: embedded citation, Harvard referencing, and cite.php footnote. There is no requirement to which style an article should use, but if one citation style has been used, it must be used consistently. Mixing citation style is not allowed.
Now, looking to this article, it seems that footnote citation style is used, but it does not follow the guideline properly. I'm going to fix citation style to be consistent with the WP:FN, WP:CITE and generally WP:MOS. Also I'm going to see some unreliable sources per WP:RS and I'm going to use WP:CITET templates for consistent reference format. — Indon (reply) — 09:21, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation 

message: This article failed good article nomination. This is how the article, as of September 17, 2006, compares against the  six good article criteria:
:1. Well written?: This is the major issue for the failure. The article needs a through copy-edit for proper English grammar, usage, and style.  Organization of the sections for logical sequence of ideas would also help.
:2. Factually accurate?: As far as I can tell the facts are accurate, but the presence of several generic statements is worrisome.
:3. Broad in coverage?: All the major bases appear to be covered; though the historical section could be expanded, and the "Metropolitan tourism" section could certainly be elaborated upon.
:4. Neutral point of view?: In the lead, one finds this: "...Indonesia offers both natural beauty and cultural diversity for both domestic and international tourists."  I find this statement both vague and POV, which is to say, promotional. A rather promotional tone pervades most of the article.
:5. Article stability? There are recent edits, but they seem to be purely constructive work on references.
:6. Images?: They are well-chosen, eye-catching, and really enhance the article. The only license/tag issue I see concerns Prambanam.JPG, which has a note on its tag saying another more precise tag should be used instead.
When these issues are addressed, the article can be resubmitted for consideration.  Thanks for your work so far. 
--Fsotrain09 19:47, 17 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Failed "good article" nomination

message: Hey Guys,
I just created the Waterbom Park and Spa page so that can link to this page I just don't know where!
Scoreed 08:01, 27 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Waterbom Park 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Visit Indonesia 2008.JPG

message: Could you please insert a guide to Bali prisons and bombing sites.  I would like for the public to know the real Bali. (Unsigned item from 64.69.123.157 (Talk)
:Wikipedia isnt a tourist guide its an encyclopedia this particular article is about tourism as an industry and its economics in relation to Indonesia. There are many appropriate articles in this encyclopedia about the Bali bombings. Gnangarra 05:18, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Problem

message: I notice that some recent edits have altered significant information however the source refs have been unchanged. Either the refs are in error and the article content has been corrected or maybe someone has just introduced a lot of now mis-attributed content. I have not reviewed all of the recent edits and have at this time only updated  the 1st one I spotted ...for example
Tourism in Indonesia is an important component of the Indonesian economy as well as a significant source of its foreign exchange revenues. In 2008, the number of international tourists climbed to 6.43 million people, seeing a 13.24% increase in the flow of Indonesian tourism. The subsequent economical impact of this tourist influx saw $7.5 billion US dollars poured into Indonesia..
This refs to a table of information that is current up to including 2009 and yet the 2008 figures are given, access date is 2009. Nothing wrong with giving the figs for 2008 I guess but it is not up to date. The % increase is based upon what years? In 2008 it was 7.337 Billion not 7.5Billion and the most recent figure from that source states 6.3 Billion. Other recent edits may have similar problems as I note many other figures have changed whilst the source has not ie 7000 islands / 1000 islands Felix505 (talk) 18:15, 18 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits have altered significant referenced information  

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: So far the data from BPS (Indonesia Statistics) of foreign tourist arrival is only 200 to 2015. Update are welcome, but the data must be valid by providing the link to references (I prever BPS data). Any doubtful unreferenced statistic data change will be considered as a false data, a possible vandalism, and will be reverted immediately. Read this carefully. Thank you. Gunkarta  talk  11:56, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Data update 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: There is such a continual attempt to play with the statistics section of this article, it has a very negative effect on this article.
Suggesting that a separate article be created that could have stronger protection and security from endless edit warring.
: Proposal - separate article of tourism statistics.  JarrahTree 08:59, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: *Comment - wouldn't that be just a table? Juxlos (talk) 16:39, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed fork - separate article for Tourism Statistics  

message: Just trying out an alternative way of representing the statistics. I think if we would limit it to the top 10, it would look a lot cleaner. --HyperGaruda (talk) 14:49, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Example graph

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