Talk:Fair catch kick

message: It doesn't have to be a fair catch that is caught, but what is called an 'awarded' fair catch.  If you signal a fair catch, and are interfered with, you can accept an awarded fair catch at the spot of touching, for example.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.48.6.139 (talk) 19:38, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  awarded fair catch 

message: User:Quirkyresearch added a complete list recently, but I commented out the information to hide it until we iron out a possible copyvio violation. There is no certainty that user Quirkyresearch is the author of the Quirky Research blog from which the entire "known attempts" section is verbatim. If Quirkyresearch is, indeed, the blog author, then the information must (WP:CV) have some public-domain/creative-commons release so that the information can appear here verbatim. All of that in consideration, we should only link to the full list, but I would welcome the list reappearing in some kind of repackaged form. All said, this is fascinating information provided by Quirkyresearch. I just think the link is more appropriate at this time. —Twigboy 18:40, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've given permission to use the material from my site, and am in the process of adding citations for each kick, so editors may restore the list to Wikipedia if they see fit. --Quirkyresearch 16:37, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. —Disavian (talk/contribs) 18:21, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fantastic! Even though the article is very NFL-centric, I think it is an excellent resource. Thanks Quirkyresearch and Disavian for your work. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Twigboy (talk • contribs) 02:07, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quirkyresearch additions 

message: I propose moving the Known attempts section to a new article/list (Fair catch kick (National Football League) or other similarly named article). The nonlist portion of the article discusses its use at all levels of football, but the known attempts shifts it to an NFL perspective. I feel that the list is feature-worthy on its own as well. Well referenced by User:Quirkyresearch
Also, I propose formatting in a table, but I will tackle that later.—Twigboy 14:57, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Support I would title it List of fair catch kicks in the National Football League if you're going to do it or something of the sort. I don't know how this would go at AFD though. If you give it a good well sourced lead like the NFL Draft articles it would help or other featiured lists it would help if anyone tried to delete it. Quadzilla99 22:07, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Splitting-off an entirely separate article for the NFL doesn't make much sense here, as the rule appears to be pretty consistent among the leagues that use it. We want as little duplicate content as possible. As for the list, I'd still prefer to leave the it as part of this article; the list is not that long and is of immediate interest to the majority of readers of the article. There's also not much of an article without the it. If split, though, use Quadzilla's title.  ×Meegs 08:59, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split section 

message: A New York Times blogger thought at least two of these incidents were notable. I think Wayne Walker’s 1965 attempt is particularly notable. I fell into this rabbit hole when my curiosity led me to search for YouTube videos of attempted fair catch kicks. I've now watched several of them, they are quite entertaining for the both the broadcast-booth commentary and the action on the field. After hearing Pat Summerall recall "Wayne Walker's attempt" in the 1988 49ers-Vikings playoff game, and not finding it on the list in the article, I went off Googling for it and found Fandom's fork. I still haven't tried to track down the "Paul Brown attempt" that Madden recalled. – wbm1058 (talk) 21:01, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not against including some mention of some declined attempts in the "usage" section (like where it mentions a declined Belichick attempt) if they are notable but an entire list of them seems a bit impossible to maintain, especially given the good article status of the rest of the piece. It's also very odd in that NYT cites Wikipedia... if we can find original sources that might be some value in noting maybe one or two more scenarios where a kick was declined. Toa Nidhiki05 21:47, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The "Paul Brown attempt" Madden recalled in 1988 may have been a real attempt, not a regular FG attempt like the Wayne Walker attempt that Summerall recalled. quirkyresearch has "Horst Muhlmann, Cincinnati vs. San Diego, September 21, 1969. Short and wide from 60 yards at the end of the first half." and "Horst Muhlmann, Cincinnati vs. Kansas City, October 21, 1973. Short from 57 yards at the end of the first half." which aren't on our list. Paul Brown was the Bengals head coach 1968–1975. – wbm1058 (talk) 23:21, 8 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable?