Talk:Poe Toaster

message: The same guy has visited Poe's grave every year for over 50 years? Not bleeding likely. --Tysto 03:15, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you'd read the article, you'd have noticed that it states that most people agree that the mantle has been passed onto someone younger than the original toaster.  Sleeper99999 21:14, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

text: *Oh thanks. That explains everything. Now I totally don't believe that this is just various members of the Poe Society hoaxing gullible reporters. --Tysto 02:49, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As my TARDIS is currently in the shop for a tune-up, I am unable to visit 1949 and see if anyone actually visited Poe's grave then.  As far as the Vast Poe-Loving Conspiracy, who knows.  It seems to have been pretty well documented that someone has been visiting the grave for decades.  Sleeper99999 09:48, 28 February 2006 (UTC)

text: *Looks like the new guy is really a football and republican loving jock and not a poe-esque romantic Theducks 02:12, 14 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Agree and removed, the link added nothing to the article as a external refrence/source/site. --Boothy443 |  trácht ar 05:40, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Poe Hoaxer is more like it

message: Seems tomorrow is the anniversary again.  I can't make the trip up this year so, Saturday morning when all the news has gotten in, can someone post what went down? - The Alpha Couple
All references give January 19 as Poe's birthday, however, the gravestone says October 9, 1849 to November 17, 1875.  This needs to be addressed.
Famosa (talk) 17:44, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That's the original grave marker. The dates are the dates that he was buried in that plot before he was moved, not his birth/death dates. ArakunemTalk 01:49, 16 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poe's Anniversary 

message: Does anyone know with certainty which of Poe's graves the Toaster visits? Is it the original marker or the large 1875 memorial? Once that's solved, we can get an image of that on here. Midnightdreary 18:02, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never been to the actual cemetary, but have followed this story closely for years.  In the "External links" section of this entry, there is a link to my website, The Tale of the Poe Toaster on Labyrinth13 where I have posted a photograph that was taken of this year's tribute left by the Toaster.  (See image at the bottom of the page once you have followed that link).  Perhaps someone who knows the difference between the two grave sites can have a look and say which one that it is?  Labyrinth13 18:24, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That was very helpful; I've already added the image. I've visited the grave several times - you should make the trip some day! Midnightdreary 18:45, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  My pleasure.  Visiting Poe's grave is on my list of things to do prior to shuffling off this mortal coil, so I envy those who have made the trip.  The photo looks nice on the entry, by the way.  Thanks for posting it.  Labyrinth13 18:57, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Well something seems not right with the article. The bottom picture clearly shows the tribute left at the current grave marker, though the intro paragraph and first picture imply that they are left at the original marker. (The first picture is the original marker, as you can see by reading it at full resolution.) ArakunemTalk 00:45, 22 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which grave? 

message: It seems like the 2004 paragraph was just lifted from http://labyrinth13.com/Poe_Toaster.htm
It clearly says on the top of the page: "First publishing, September 2001. © All rights reserved. This article now appears as Chapter 5, The Tale of the Poe Toaster, in the book Labyrinth13. It may not be reproduced in whole or in part without the express, written permission of the author (permission to link to this article on the world wide web is hereby granted)."
Did we get permission to use an excerpt?
Mattwolf7 20:39, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, that information was added by a user named Labyrinth13 - my guess it was the author hoping for free publicity. Even if was the author, though, copyright is held by publisher. Feel free to fix it. --Midnightdreary 22:51, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright Violation 

message: Hmmm... http://www.usatoday.com/life/books/news/2007-08-15-poe-fan_N.htm?csp=34 ~CS 15:12, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a great article! The recent "revelation" has already been added and sourced in the article. I'm wondering if more information will be coming out soon. --Midnightdreary 15:32, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Obviously, I need my eyes checked!  I could have sworn it wasn't in the article yet.  Sorry about being hurried and redundant. ~CS 02:57, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hoax?

message: The tradition of using red xxx's to mark one's grave, toasting of spirits, and the use of Cognac (a traditionally French alcohol) may originate from the Voodoo practice of honoring famous priestess Marie Laveau.  
This could be someone who honestly believes in the practice attempting to do several things:  hoax, media sensation, voodoo, or some other form of spirit calling to assist with someone's writing, or just honor the spirit with spirits! "Spirits" in voodoo practices generally crave blood, alcohol, tobacco, and any other vices that once tied them to being human.
Either way, I'm glad someone honors him.
Kendra\TALK! 03:05, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hoax or Not, He's no [[Marie_Laveau|Laveau]]

message: I was there personally, there was quite a crowd, but I checked with other people there, and they agree that it was closer to 130, not 150, and that number rapidly decreased the further we got away from midnight.  Still quite an impressive number. In the future reporters may want to either actually attend the event, or perhaps talk to someone besides Mr. Jerome, who has a definite motivated interest in keeping this tradition alive.
Also, a gentleman who wandered away from the crowd was mugged early in the morning, so if you go in the future, make sure you stay near the crowd and the police, and dress warm. --68.49.122.194 (talk) 03:34, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Many of the links in the "References" section are now dead. Fixed one, but had to go.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.114.130.184 (talk) 11:18, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: 2008

message: The news link for the 2008 visit was a dead link. Replaced with a live one and edited metadata.
Abpillai (talk) 07:55, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Many of the links in the "References" section are now dead. Fixed one, but had to go.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.114.130.184 (talk) 11:18, 19 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Edited news link

message: These two sentences: "In 1967, Porpora says, he told a reporter that the tradition dated back to 1949, though the article to which he refers actually was printed in 1976.[3] Jeff Jerome, of the Edgar Allan Poe Society, however, says the earliest newspaper article about the Poe Toaster dates back to 1950, predating Porpora's claims"
If Porpora claimed that the tradition dates back to 1949 and Mr. Jerome says that the first article published about the Toaster dates back to 1950, where's the problem here? Nothing 'predates' Porpora's claims, as the newspaper article only proves that in 1950 the traditison had [i]already[/i] existed and not that it was actually started that year.
Or alternativey, if what the editor who wrote these lines meant was that the 1950 article predates the 1976 article, what does that prove? The 1950 article is the first documentation of the Toaster, and the 1976 article is about someone claiming to be that Toaster. I believe these two sentences need rewriting. Or maybe it's just that the dates are wrong.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.0.23.23 (talk) 10:12, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that the 1949 date is wrong; I think that would straighten it out. I'll check and get back to this. --Midnightdreary (talk) 11:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I clarified it. What Porpora was saying was that he made up the whole thing out of the blue in 1967, claiming that someone had done it since 1949 (implying in 2007 that there was no such tradition prior to 1967). Jerome has proof that it began as early as 1950. Does this make more sense? Good catch on noticing it. --Midnightdreary (talk) 12:01, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Makes no sense...? 

message: There's two separate citations for the same article -- http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bal-poe-toaster0119,0,2325798.story.  One's footnote #1, the other's footnote #12.  Please fix.  Kthanx.  --MicahBrwn (talk) 01:17, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There. Hope I didn't screw anything up, I'm still learning. - Zmdi (talk) 02:25, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  And the duplicate citation's back.  I tried fixing it, but it didn't work.  --MicahBrwn (talk) 19:32, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Now it seems like there's THREE duplication citations... one of which doesn't work.  I've tried fixing it, but I'm obviously doing something wrong.  --MicahBrwn (talk) 02:24, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: 68.47.123.45 is constantly reverting to the old version where the problem is. Zmdi (talk) 19:52, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toaster doesn't show up in 2010 

message: Im not sure the dictionary can be used to indicate a link between "Poe Toaster" and "poetaster". Other than being remarkably similar in spelling, there is no real connection. Poe Toaster doesn't even sound like poetaster (which is properly pronouned like "poet-ass-ter"). Unless there is some real source other than the dictionary we can use, I think that reference should be removed. Vyselink (talk) 22:36, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The same point occurred to me this morning when I was doing some tidying of the article.  I hesitated to remove it because the reference was titled "Poe Toaster and poetaster", as if the author of the referenced source had made the comparison in print; but the citation appears to be a dead link, so I was going to do some more digging before removing the sentence and reference.  I agree, however, unless we can locate a reliable citation, it should go. Cheers, DoctorJoeE (talk) 23:05, 19 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Upon further review, I can find no authoritative reference for the statement -- so unless someone has a strenuous (and fact-based) objection, I'm going to remove it in a couple of days. Cheers, DoctorJoeE (talk) 15:46, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a good plan. I had never seen the connection before this Wikipedia page. --Midnightdreary (talk) 18:59, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "poetaster"? 

message: : In 2010 the Poe Toaster failed to appear. Jerome, who had witnessed every visitation from 1976 on, had no explanation, but did speculate that if the Toaster intended to end the tradition, the 2009 bicentennial would mark a logical ending point.
Bicentennial of what? —Tamfang (talk) 09:18, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Read the sentence right before it. --Midnightdreary (talk) 10:59, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly! Cheers, DoctorJoeE (talk) 13:37, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Perhaps someone forced your clocks to change by an hour? With that said, though, those two sentences probably would make more sense in a single paragraph. The "list" style isn't prose enough. --Midnightdreary (talk) 20:53, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't use an alarm clock; I'm sleep-deprived because of a cold. —Tamfang (talk) 22:23, 14 March 2011 (UTC)

text: I think I fixed this in a way that should satisfy you. He's actually from the Baltimore Poe Museum, which makes more sense than the Poe Society. I hope this answers your concern. --Midnightdreary (talk) 23:32, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  1809? 

message: Their seems to be some pretty big inconsistencies in this article. This Toaster is claimed to show up at the same place (in the middle of a open cemetery) every year, and it is claimed that crowds gather to watch this event, but it is further claimed irregardless of the fact that this person must stand in plain sight (right in the middle of a crowd watching for him) that he is hardly seen by anyone. And furthermore, it is claimed that Jerome is the only one who is familiar with the details of his ritual, irregardless of the large following he apparently has (who come out and stand around the grave all night, but somehow miss his appearance and ritual at said grave).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wisnoskij (talk • contribs) 03:36, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It is perhaps unclear in this article that the ritual took place within the cemetery, with Jerome watching from within, and the crowd gathered outside the fence on the sidewalk. --Midnightdreary (talk) 18:14, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistencies 

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