Talk:Exercise Valiant Shield

message: This article is vaguely worded, specifically as regards what went on.  Did ships sail around, did planes fly, was ammunition discharged and bombs dropped on the water or various targets, what?  Or is this a secret?  Badagnani 18:47, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I imagine what went on was typical of most wargames. I also image that they wouldn't be showing off any American secrets in front of the PRA.  freshofftheufoΓΛĿЌ  19:12, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

text: We showed North Korea thru their sugar daddy China that even while engaged in Afganistan and Iraq we still have enough conventional forces to kick their ass. It's a quite standard show of force. Called rattling the sabers, sometimes. It is also a means of training the troops. But with two war theatres in operation, you can guess what the most important of the two objectives was. WAS 4.250 02:29, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nature of exercise 

message: Someone should consider revising or expanding this statement:
"Military ties between the United States and China have not been close ever since WWII."
For one thing, have military ties between the two nations ever been close, other than in WWII?  And second, we fought a long, grueling war with communist China in the Korean War.  That calls for stronger languages than saying that military ties have not "close."
Actually, in times past the US has had closer military ties with China (PRC) than now. Note, I said PRC. During WWII our support was with the KMT rather than the CCP. Regardless, there were weapon/tech transfers before the Tienanmen Square incident because of various Cold War concerns (the US and PRC both had problems with the Soviets, despite the PRC being a communist country). 173.22.123.35 (talk) 06:48, 23 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Military Ties With China 

message: Beware, there is a certain user who will probably consider Valiant Shield a "propaganda" term and give it a meaningless generic name. Haizum 04:42, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't it pretty standard for us to use military operation names for the articles, unless some more common name is in use?  I mean Operation Barbarossa doesn't look to be moving anytime soon... --Delirium 07:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, for example..., and scroll down to see the older edits. (note that they are not my edits) Haizum 07:29, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Propaganda" Term 

message: I mean, Valiant Shield is held every year, it was held in 2007 and there will be one this year. I don't know for how long this operation have been held in the Pacific, but it's an wargame conducted once every year. Hagman1983 (talk) 22:11, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That is interesting because there was zero attention to it in the media this past year where as in 2006, it was all over the networks and cable news. This article was on the WP homepage. Regardless, we can rename this article as Valiant Shield 2006 or modify the article to talk about the exercise in general and include information from each year. This is a well developed article; I would prefer that it be renamed Valiant Shield 2006 and a new article be created for subsequent years if warranted but am open to other ideas. --Daysleeper47 (talk) 13:56, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't we change this page a little? 

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