Talk:Debra Paget

message: Photo of this Beauty, please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gauderius (talk • contribs) 23:02, September 18, 2005 (UTC–4)
:Coming up. (BTW: It helps if you sign your comments with the four tildes. That at least puts a time stamp on them.)--Chris 04:46, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I'm about to replace the contents of the Debra Paget page. Just in case, I've archived the old contents here -- they're not too lengthy.
Debra Paget (born August 19, 1933 in Denver, Colorado) is an American film actress.
Debra Paget was born Debralee Griffin into a family of actors.  Her mother Margaret Griffin had been a stage actress. Her sister Lesli Gaye Griffin acted in movies and on television under the alias of Lisa Gaye. Her other sister, Marcia Griffin appeared in movies at first using the alias of Judith Gibson, and later as Teala Loring]]. Frank Griffin, her brother, also acted in movies before becoming a makeup artist.  
Debra herself was fourteen years old when she made her first film. Using the stage name Debra Paget she went on to a fifteen year career involving more than thirty films that included significant roles in notable projects such as "Lilia" in 1956's The Ten Commandments. That same year she also starred opposite Elvis Presley in Love Me Tender. In the late 1950's Paget made a number of films in Germany for director Fritz Lang. Her last major film was The Haunted Palace with Vincent Price in 1963, but she continued making appearances in American television programs for several more years. During the 1990's she hosted a show called An Interlude With Debra Paget on the Trinity Broadcasting Network, a Christian television network.
Paget was married to singer-actor David Street in January 1958, but the marriage ended less than three months later. In March 1960 she married director Budd Boetticher.  Paget and Boetticher divorced in August 1961. In April 1962 she married oil executive Ling-Chieh "Louis" K'ung, a nephew of Chinese leader Chiang Kai-shek. Her son, Gregory K'ung, was born in June 1964. Paget and K'ung divorced in 1980.
  --Chris 04:46, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Updating Paget page

message: I've just discovered that the picture showing Paget's "sinuous" dancing may not be from Princess of the Nile, but from Fritz Lang's later Journey to the Lost City. Further research is needed.
And since this looks like one of those cases where the answers are not on the Internet, finding them could take a while. (My budget precludes just buying the DVDs.) --Chris 13:57, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I own the DVDs, and you're correct. The scene is from Lang's Lost City. I believe the original cut was titled "Der Tiger von Eschnapur" and combined with "Das Indische Grabmal" to make the final cut. 70.111.128.244 15:42, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Images from which film?

message: I have reason to believe that Paget's mother was not the Ella Margaret Gibson who allegedly confessed to murdering William Desmond Taylor. Mrs. Griffin's first child, Mareta Eloise Griffin (known later as Teala Loring) was born 6 October 1924 in Denver, Colorado. 
Ella Margaret Gibson was arrested on 3 November 1923 at her home in Hollywood, CA during a nation-wide blackmail sting but had the charges dropped six days later. (Source: http://www.textfiles.com/magazines/TAYLOROLOGY/taylor85.txt) An entry from the 1923-1924 Motion Picture Studio Directory corroborates Ella Margaret Gibson's address:
[Entry in the 1923-4 Motion Picture Studio Directory]
     PALMER, Patricia; b. San Francisco, Calif.; educ. Calif. and Colo.;
stage experience, vaud. and stock; screen experience, 8 yrs., Christie,
Vitagraph, Paramount ("The Cowboy and the Lady," "Mr. Billings Spends His
Dime"), Cyrus J. Williams Prod. ("Things Men Do"), American ("The Web of the
Law," "The Two Hellions"). Hght. 5, 1; wght, 110; golden brown hair, dark
blue eyes.  Home ad. 2324 Beachwood Dr.; phone Hollywood, Calif., 436-130. (Source: http://www.textfiles.com/magazines/TAYLOROLOGY/taylor84.txt)
At this point, she was living in Hollywood, CA under a pseudonym due to a prior prostitution charge. Furthermore, Gibson did not marry until 9 February 1935 to Elbert E. Lewis, an auditor for the Socony Vacuum Oil Company. (Source: http://www.textfiles.com/magazines/TAYLOROLOGY/taylor90.txt) Yet IMDB shows that Teala Loring's sisters Debra Paget and Lisa Gaye were born in 1933 and 1935, respectively under the Griffin name.
I motion to have the section from the trivia associating Paget's mother with Gibson removed.
70.111.128.244 16:15, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Probable Inaccuracy Concerning Paget's Mother

message: Wasn't there something with Aly Khan and Porfirio Rubirosa?Lestrade 14:37, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Relationships in days of yore

message: This section goes into detail concerning movies in which Paget was not in a starring role. I think this tends to make this biography, which is already overlong, even longer than it should be. I'm going to remove this section unless someone objects. I just don't see why an article on a less than major star requires this kind of detail concerning roles in which he or she was not in the lead role. Stetsonharry (talk) 22:12, 5 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't realize that anyone else had noticed/objected to this, but I completely agree,  and I have removed it here  It reads largely as original research and much of it has little to do with Paget.   Although there is some sourcing, that also seems to be lacking.  I think it places undue weight on a handful of performances.  Although commenting on specific performances/films in actor articles often comes down to editorial POV, I think to place them in their own sections only serves to underline the POV nature of it.  Finally, and this is my main point, I can't think of another article where roles/films are broken down into sections such as this.  None of the featured articles for film performers do this, and when in doubt, I think that they are a good barometer for what is appropriate and what is not. Rossrs (talk) 14:07, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Selected film roles" section

message: I restored two citations that had been dropped and updated a third, for the Golden Boot Award. The link for that had broken. Apparently the Motion Picture and TV Fund is having trouble; they are not doing the award for the second straight year, and their site no longer hosts the archive.
And by the way, there seem to be items missing from this talk page. I recall a note about someone fixing my conflation of two Debra Pagets; it's now gone. ChrisWinter (talk) 21:11, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated citations 

message: We're going to need a new way of thinking about careers like Ms. Paget's. There are 10.5 million hits for her previously obscure dance sequence in the great director Fritz Lang's Indian fantasy. YouTube has the ability to rescue short sequences buried inside forgettable movies. That dance number is extraordinary and will become famous. Profhum (talk) 09:01, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You are so exactly right, Profhum!  Technology's going to gradually kick over the table and that dance sequence will become part of the collective popular imagination. And it's literally a shame that, with arguably the most beautiful woman ever recorded on film, the only photograph we have for this article is so blurry you can barely tell it's even her.  Kultoa (talk) 17:25, 7 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internet Era afterlives 

message: starred in Bird of Paradise with Jeff Chandler in 1951 2600:8801:200:182C:C83C:19C8:2750:ABE8 (talk) 08:35, 22 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional movie