Talk:New Communist Party of Britain

message: While I've left the edit as I can't give a reliable source, I would be intrigued to see an official NCP repudiation of Stalin from the last 5-10 or so years.  I know for a fact of a couple of members who are in the Stalin Society but won't name them here without their consent.
My opinion, which for obvious reasons I won't edit into the article, is that the anti-1977 British Road to Socialism origins of the NCP was rather a front for what was, even then, a predominantly anti-revisionist group.  While some of their members were 'tankies' in the out and out pro-Moscow sense I'd argue many more had far more in common with Hoxhaists of the Bill Bland anti-Mao variety.
Lastly, the NCP's continuing joint work with the RCPB(M-L), who I can only assume no-one will deny are active within the Stalin Society, gives another indication.  Again, supporting without a source I can give, but that was a forum where much of the idea of collaboration began.
Samchallis 14:46, 18 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: '''Stalin Society''''

message: It is factually accurate that the NCPB is one of the two main Communist parties. Warofdreams states of his reversion: "(revert POV "two main communist parties" - CPB(M-L), CPGB(PCC), and various Trotskyist groups would disagree)". This I disagree with. Firstly, Trotskyist groups do not refer to themselves as Communist parties (at least not in public). Secondly, both the CPB(M-L) and CPGB(PCC) are far smaller, and do not have relations with other parties generally recognised as Communist, or participate in the International Communist Movement as do both the NCPB and the CPB. It is true that the CPB(M-L) is an older organisation, but that does not make it one of the main ones. The CPGB(PCC) has only about 20 members.
I do not want to get into reverting and unreverting, but the point should be made that both the original text, and edit are factually accurate, and not just POV.
:If you can find some reliable reference, I'd be happy to describe the NCPB as the second largest Communist party in Britain; you're probably right that the Trotskyist groups could be disregarded here.    But use of the term "main" is bound to be controversial - no doubt other groups would claim that they are a main communist party, because of their history, their influence, their principled positions or whatever.  Your original text also implies that there is a commonality between the CPB and the NCPB which is not shared by other communist parties in Britain.  If this is this case, it needs to be stated explicity, not just alluded to. Warofdreams talk 02:26, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main Communist parties 

message: There is no evidence of current LRC affilation
Grmdy 19:56, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:   L-R-C Affiliation  

message: I have made some additions to the page regarding NCP membership, problems related to expulsions in the party, content of the "New Worker" and its discontinued publications. Someone obviously is a bit touchy about too many current facts about the NCP being on this page. Anyone who complains about this material not being sourced is talking out of the back of their head. When do communist parties publish membership figures in the public domain - the NCP certainly never has (we used to be told it was less than 10,000), so don't use that as an excuse to chop this newly added material again. If it is, I will just keep putting it back.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.222.195.135 (talk) 00:13, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent changes 

message: I'm coming in to point out that Wikipedia guidelines and policies require articles to be well sourced, and this one is badly sourced, one of the reasons so far as I can see for the current edit wars. I also notice that a lot of edit summaries are blank, and this really should stop. Also, a couple of editors are lucky they haven't been blocked for WP:3RR violations and can expect to be blocked if this continues. Doug Weller (talk) 11:38, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Can I also point out that a large chunk of this article reads like an individuals biography rather than an article about a political party. Can I suggest that some of the editors here take a look at other wikipedia articles about Political parties and add more about election results? ϢereSpielChequers 12:46, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

text: I've fully protected the article for 72 hours as a result of the edit war.  Can the involved users come here to talk about it now?  lifebaka++ 14:53, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit warring and sources 

message: Dear "Borewatch", please tell us where these references to the NCP's past publications, such as the Irish Bulletin and Economic Bulletin, can be found.
Troublemaker1973 (talk) 11:47, 27 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Past publications 

message: In fact, most of the material on the New Communist Party page is gleaned from old NCP publications and material on their websites -- a bit of an "inside job" if you ask me. The page should most certainly be nuked and replaced with something not so shoddy.Troublemaker1973 (talk) 11:53, 29 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cut and paste job 

message: I think it would be legitimate to put back the section of pamphlets that explain the ideology of the NCPB. I note that the Wiki CPB entry, quite rightly, lists its pamphlets, and so should the Wiki NCPB entry.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.152.40.129 (talk) 18:26, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pamplets and books 

message: Semi-protected for a week. I suspect the IP editor that I just reverted is a blocked editor (which is why the reversion). If other Admins feel it should be unprotected, and of course if they provide a rationale, that's fine by me. Doug Weller (talk) 16:59, 7 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected 

message: Why did the New Communist Review cease publication when its editor died? Was there no one else in the NCP capable of editing a theoretical journal? Troublemaker1973 (talk) 11:26, 10 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Communist Review 

message: (editsemiprotected) I would like the Communist Parties in Europe box to be added at the bottom of 
the page - as appears on the bottom of the CPB page. Grauniad100 (talk) 19:48, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Communist Parties in Europe 

message: It's wrong to say a coup d'etat by "the leadership" if nine members of that the party's actual "leadership" (the central committee) were expelled for opposing the expulsions and closure of the North West District. The "leadership" was split down the middle on the issue (viz the one-vote majority), so it's more accurate to say that, in the view of those expelled, it was a move taken by a faction around general secretary Andy Brooks. Troublemaker1973 (talk) 02:46, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leadership or faction? 

message: The reference to the New Worker and publications should not be under the Ideology heading as that 
is more appropriate for policies. Grauniad100 (talk) 06:21, 23 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct headings 

message: Did the resignations from the CC include Maisie Carter from Merton? When did Chas Fraser (one-time New Worker industrial editor) and Sue Fraser (former NCP chairperson) leave the party and what was the reason?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.123.5.206 (talk) 16:15, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Resignations from CC over Livingstone vote 

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