Talk:Alpine, California

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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
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:Alpine, California →  – many places in California are called "Alpine" as evidenced by the enormous hatnote. The current term should point to the disambiguation page Alpine (disambiguation) -- 65.93.183.33 (talk) 03:46, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a contested technical request (permalink). Polyamorph (talk) 08:54, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

text: * It is not clear that the article at this title is not the primary Alpine, California. There are two blue links in the hatnote, with the third hatnoted item being a redlink. I feel a discussion is necessary here. BD2412 T 04:58, 11 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: * WP:AT violation. This is not an undisambiguated title. This Alpine is clearly not the primary topic of "Alpine" since it resides at a disambiguated title, with ", California" as the disambiguator. So it fails Article Title rules, by not being WP:PRECISE enough to identify the topic unambiguously. Thus it needs to be moved. Disambiguated titles are not primary topics because they are disambiguated page names, and primary topics reside at page names without disambiguators. -- 65.93.183.33 (talk) 02:06, 12 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: * If Alpine, San Diego County is unacceptable to USPLACE; then it must be moved to Alpine, San Diego County, California; as WP:PRIMARYTOPIC does not apply to disambiguated titles. Per PRIMARYTOPIC ; so "Alpine, California" is a disambiguated title, and not a primary topic location. WP:USPLACE for the title of the article, but it still a disambiguated title in the final consideration, so if that title is ambiguous, as this one is, then it cannot reside there without further disambiguation. Thus this must be moved to  Alpine, San Diego County, California  in that instance. -- 65.93.183.33 (talk) 01:13, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: *Again, not necessarily if Alpine, Los Angeles County, California is deleted. Also, it appears that you are still making the false assumption that a disambiguated title strictly cannot be a primary topic in its own right. For example, Thriller (album) describing Michael Jackson's album is essentially the primary topic for all the other albums listed on Thriller#Music. Under the third paragraph of WP:INCOMPDAB,  "In individual cases consensus may determine that a parenthetically disambiguated title that is still ambiguous has a primary topic". See also Wikipedia:Partially disambiguated page names. Zzyzx11 (talk) 17:33, 4 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 11 March 2021 

message: I propose we mention the Cedar fire of 2003. Forich (talk) 21:02, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: you don't have to propose it, go ahead and write it.  I started it for you. • Sbmeirow • Talk • 21:24, 6 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cedar fire of 2003