Talk:Sacred language

message: Arabic is the sacred language of the Muslim world as it the language which every Momin will speak in the Hereafter thats Jannat.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 117.198.227.1 (talk) 12:20, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Arabic

message: Is Hebrew a sacred language?  I believe most Jews (in the US at least) speak Yiddish (or English) rather than Hebrew, and it is used for the ceremonies.  -- zandperl 03:57, 28 Oct 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Yiddish, like English, German, and Russian, is a vernacular language spoken by many Jews--it is not the language of prayer or ritual. Vicki Rosenzweig 04:00, 28 Oct 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: I added Hebrew, though I'm a bit shaky about how much Jewish liturgy is conducted in the language; I suppose it varies by denomination and congregation. -- Smerdis of Tlön 04:34, 28 Oct 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Many, perhaps most, religions conduct their services in both the sacred and the vernacular languages. The most ritualistic parts are in the the sacred language. The least ritualistic parts, almost always including the sermon, is in the language that most of the congregation actually understands.Bostoner (talk) 22:34, 4 May 2009 (UTC)

text:  Hebrew a sacred language? Don't be silly. :D Hebrew was a spoken language when the bible was written; after the exile of Jews, it was frequently used for non-religious prose and poetry; most notably, today it is the spoken language in Israel. And usually spoken quite rudely as well. ʝunglejill 21:56, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Hebrew

message: The article says that Sanskrit is still a living language.  Is that correct? In what sense?  (Many years ago I read rumors of a village in India where Sanskrit was still spoken, but others wrote that it was a hoax.)Jorge Stolfi 19:13, 18 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: My understanding is that Hindu writers continue to write new texts in Sanskrit, and speak it conversationally.  Oral performances of the Ramayana and other Sanskrit poetry continue to occur for entertainment, so I suspect even more people can understand spoken Sanskrit to some extent.  While the language is no one's native tongue, it continues to be a living language if it is spoken and new texts are created in it.  Smerdis of Tlön 19:24, 18 May 2004 (UTC)

text: Of course, any language that is in fact used regularly continues to change, regardless of a historical canon.  My take on the matter is that Latin was a living language until Renaissance humanists insisted on enforcing Classical norms; this made the workday Latin written by lawyers and clerics much more difficult to learn and use; late medieval Latin had its own non-classical norms of usage.  My understanding is that linguists distinguish two continuums here: mother tongues versus learned languages, and living languages versus dead languages.  This is what I meant by "learned but still living;" no one speaks Sanskrit as a mother tongue, but it is learned and used.  Smerdis of Tlön 14:32, 19 May 2004 (UTC)

text: Sanskrit is not a dead language, because it has living descendants. The same is true of Latin and Old English. The modern, still spoken languages of Hindi, Bengali, Marathi, Punjabi, etc. are all descended from Sanskrit. It is an archaic of form of living languages.Bostoner (talk) 22:34, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sanskrit

message: This article says that Telugu is the language of compositions in Carnatic music. While this is true, I should like to point out that Carnatic music is not a religion! It is a musical tradition, all right? If no one objects, I'm deleting the stuff about Telugu.--Siva 01:55, 22 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Telugu??? 

message: The article now mentions that Hindu temples in South India are chanting in Tamil as well as, or instead of, Sanskrit.  Is this an archaic form of Tamil that is difficult for modern speakers to understand?  The article is unclear about this, and makes it sound like these Tamil prayers are recent innovations.  If the Tamil used for prayer is not markedly different from cultivated literary Tamil, I would question whether it constitutes a separate language cultivated for religious ritual, and would therefore fall outside the scope of the article.  Smerdis of Tlön 22:43, 29 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tamil 

message: I'm not sure whether/where this belongs in the article, but pagan reconstructionists (those who emphasize historical accuracy) often use the language of the relevant culture in ritual contexts.  For instance, a strict Hellenist pagan may learn and use Ancient Greek for religious reasons; a strict Norse pagan may do the same with Old Norse.  Because that general attitude exists in many similar religions, however, I have trouble wording the new information consistently with the rest of the page.  --Ingeborg S. Nordén 23:48, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sacred languages as used by pagan reconstructionists

message: Please add Punjabi for Sikhism — Stevey7788 (talk) 08:14, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, it already had Punjabi for Sikhism! In the Languages classififed as sacred section, just above Sanskrit it says "Classical Punjabi is the language of the holy scripture of Sikhism. It is different from the various dialects of Punjabi that exists today.". GizzaDiscuss © 08:26, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punjabi for Sikhism 

message: There is a tendency within the German-speaking neo-pagan community (i.e. Druidic and Wiccan but apparently not Norse) to use English terms in rituals and for "name dropping". An English term like "Mother Earth" seems to carry more weight than the corresponding German term "Mutter Erde".93.133.6.243 (talk) 07:54, 15 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: English

message: How is that photo at the top related to (or necessary for) this article? -- JALatimer 08:12, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo 

message: this article is a bloody mess. someone please do something about it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.175.82.49 (talk) 05:21, 9 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation needed 

message: This page is ridiculous. Sacred is an Adjective. Not a real classification. Liturgical Language are languages only the priests knew, such a Ge'ez and pre-Masoretic Hebrew. Languages or Writing systems only the priests could read. People would memorize the words, then be told that is what the text says. Please  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.196.192.38 (talk) 22:18, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: In some cases the languages themselves were or are actually considered sacred, divine or heavenly forms of communication by various groups, while with others it is more as you say -- this page kind of lists both sacred AND liturgical languages together, since the concept is similar. Til Eulenspiegel /talk/ 22:23, 15 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fix Redirect! Not "Sacred", needs to go to "Liturgical Language" 

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message: Church Slavonic is not incomprehensible to Slavs, as it used every Sunday in church services all around the Slavic world. Why does this Wikipedia article say that it is? KeymasterOne (talk) 20:55, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Church Slavonic