Talk:Hone Harawira

message: HH's statements were described by another editor as paying tribute. Three times this has been changed to "Harawira was perceived to have paid tribute to OBL..." and three times I've removed "perceived", saying that it's a statement of fact that he did pay tribute. Today, Aircorn has replaced "paid tribute" with "said", saying "Just say what he said."  I contend that no-one has been making up "paid tribute", that we are only reflecting what has already been reported, many times, and therefore that it should go back in.
There are two online articles linked to this. 
(1) the 1st was the first one put in, from Geo TV Network, which is in Pakistan (where OBL was killed). In it is stated "An outspoken New Zealand Maori politician has praised slain al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden". The word "praise" is key in this argument. 
(2) the 2nd was a link I put in, from Te Karere Ipurangi - Maori News Online. Stating "Mr Harawira twice paid tribute to bin Laden in te reo..."  The words "paid tribute" are theirs.
There are many other online articles with a similar slant. 
Eg. (3) the NZ Herald, http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10723505  
In this we find: "In tributes on Maori-language television". "Tributes" again - in the plural.
So I contend that the phrase "paid tribute" should be reinstated. HH's comments about OBL have been reported as such, many times. Boscaswell (talk) 06:29, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm with Aircorn on this. Stuartyeates (talk) 06:47, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hone Harawira's statements about Osama bin Laden. To be described as tributes? 

message: Moriori has added, to the first paragraph, after "a student complained about Harawira...after an incident where Harawira swore..." "He explained that the political science student, Steve Baron, was a racist who "lumped Māori in with other minorities like homosexuals and Asians.....He tried it on and he got his comeuppance."  Moriori said that this addition gives "more balance". 
LOL. IMO, if anything it makes him look a whole lot worse. Boscaswell (talk) 05:23, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Sidesplitting eh! And relevant. And referenced. Tumeke. Moriori (talk) 06:23, 28 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Member of Parliament section

message: I have reverted the change made to the intro yesterday by User:Luke96241.
* He added a supposed former surname, Hatfield, (and incidentally, he gave the very misleading edit summary "add hone", not "add hatfield".
* The intro starts with "Hone Pani Tamati Waka Nene Harawira is a New Zealand.....". The second paragraph starts with "Harawira was born to John Puriri Harawira and Titewhai Harawira.....". Right. So how come Hatfield suddenly gets plonked into the lead, but the text of the article does not have a bit saying he became Hatfield for a while? The who, when, where, why etc!
* The only source given is a report of the opinion of activist David Rankin, a political foe who got 202 votes in the 2008 election to Harawira's 12,019. 
* This article is subject to WP:BLP, especially where it says poorly sourced info should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion. 
* There are no independent reliable sources for justifiying us saying he was formerly known as Hatfield. There is one man's opinion.
* There are no statements anywhere made by reputable media itself that he used a former name.
* Even if Harawira had used that name for a time it would be WP:UNDUE and WP:BLPGOSSIP to record such an insignificant claim in the intro. Moriori (talk) 03:07, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This content is perfect for the end of the Early years section. Stuartyeates (talk) 03:34, 18 December 2011 (UTC)

text: As far as I am aware, he is not known as Hatfield at all. This name does not belong in the lede.-gadfium 03:50, 18 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  This has indeed all been done to death, in the first section of this talk page. Tho in case anyone missed it, altho clearly HH and Rankin do not get along, it should perhaps be noted that Rankin is not an insignificant person in the world of the Harawiras, because, he is - apparently - head of or close to being head of their hapu. This makes it rather unlikely that he is wrong on this. However, there is no proof. HH denies it. It is of course possible that when HH was born, both parents were - legally - Hatfields. Because in NZ there is no publicly-searchable *comprehensive* birth record, should there have been any air-brushing of lineage, the public would have a hard time proving that this had occurred. If it had occurred. Boscaswell (talk) 05:43, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Reverted change to the intro

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hone Harawira set up roadblocks to control movement with the stated aim of preventing the spread of disease. Although they were completely illegal, local politicians and police authorities did not condemn them but nevertheless they did not support them either. Instead they made mealy mouthed comments about all parts of the community needing to work together. I have removed a comment that John Carter, the local mayor, supported the road blocks. John Carter could seek legal redress for the suggestion that he supports illegal vigilantes.
The roadblocks were criticised for stopping local people going about their lawful business. Because they were incompetent the vigilantes put their victims at risk. (I will find suitable references and try to work out a polite way of stating this.) This is another reason why we should be very careful indeed before implicating John Carter.OrewaTel (talk) 02:55, 20 April 2020 (UTC)
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