Talk:Deen Castronovo

message: According tho Article Hole and Celebrity Skin he was chosen by production manager to overdub all the drum tracks done previously by Petty Schemel. He was not credited and the fact was not to be revealed before 2002 when Courtney Love admitted replacing Schemel during the recording of the album. Saemikneu (talk) 22:41, 15 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: 323 taybin oregon 174.253.193.84 (talk) 02:15, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

text: A.R.C.H.E.S on commercial salem across marion county park take your self to it and register to see if your face 174.253.193.84 (talk) 02:18, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hole 

message: Before we all start edit-warring, I'm not too happy about the level of coverage in the article given to the assault, nor the sources involved. Do we have anything more substantial, such as coverage in the New York Times, for example? Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 13:58, 2 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The Statesman-Journal is a Gannett newspaper that's been in continuous publication since 1851, and the coverage there has been pretty comprehensive. The story has been picked up nationally as well; Los Angeles Times, for example. And it's on the NYT web site, although it looks like they just picked up the AP coverage. Still, the arrest story appears legit. Abdoozy (talk) 05:56, 5 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: An anoymous IP user deleted this section, but didn't discuss it or note it in the edit notes. I have restored this section. --GentlemanGhost (converse) 19:29, 11 May 2018 (UTC)

text: nada 174.253.193.84 (talk) 02:20, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assault charges 

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replies: text: A.R.C.H.E.S wants to know about your three assault charges federal reserve note legal tender 174.253.193.84 (talk) 02:24, 22 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The sentence, “He beat his wife and donated to his high school,” should probably be two different sections with separate sources. Currently, it reads like the actions took place together, which doesn’t make sense. 2600:1700:C4D2:6010:2D8A:E082:176:C9C2 (talk) 16:57, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: A.R.C.H.E.S 174.253.193.84 (talk) 02:28, 22 August 2022 (UTC)

text: It's been deleted before, despite the having citations to reliable sources. I've added it back in again. --GentlemanGhost (séance) 18:56, 9 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Life 

message: It appears to me that you’re editing things that don’t need to be edited, but that’s a smallish problem. The problem with this edit is (and I don’t know where you got the source version to edit) your changing “Associated with” to “formerly of” makes some of the bands/mentioned factually incorrect. Deen was never “formerly of”
Fear Factory 
Social Distortion
Cacophony
He is still in the Revolution Saints. They continue to record and release music. 
By eliminating “associated with,” you’re omitting his Shrapnel years, which is an important part of his career.  (Although the Cacophony wiki page lists him as a former member, the personnel for “Go Off” —the only album he played on—does not list him as a member. They list him as an additional musician. Please update your edits after some research. KaytieKay (talk) 12:40, 22 January 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: So I am being prompted for a response on this "issue", in the edit I took the information from the Associated acts and adapted it into the new parameters, I did a brief look at all of the bands to see if he was a member of said band and the band was not just listed for a one off collaboration (like how it was for Steve Jones), if Deen was incorrectly listed as a member of some of the bands, that is a problem with that page and seeing as Social Distortion have an external member page I assumed he was a member with to be honest was a bit dumb. Also what is the use of have "associated with" when it doesn't show. 80s Sam (talk) 22:38, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  You are missing the point, or perhaps you're evading it. We need a reliable source in Castronovo's article that he was a former member of the bands listed in the infobox. It doesn't matter whether "associated with" is a valid parameter or not. You changed the infobox to indicate that he is a former member of bands for which there is no source. What you "assumed" is not a reliable source. And as you have been told repeatedly, the burden to provide a reliable source is on you. You made unsourced edits. Either provide the sources or fix your edit. Sundayclose (talk) 03:27, 2 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  You have continued to edit other articles while ignoring the issue here. You have been given several warnings about making unsourced edits, and you did it again in this article. Please either provide a source for your edits or revert your edit so that it doesn't violate WP:V. Sundayclose (talk) 01:41, 3 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Somehow the changes for this have reverted to the original (incorrect) information. Why does this happen? KaytieKay (talk) 07:27, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  “Formerly Of” VERSUS “Associated With” 

message: @Grunty89 Can you please explain “this is probably him” and your unnecessary changes to this? KaytieKay (talk) 07:34, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Regarding this: I was using Radaris to do some checks on some names of people. It has been cited as a source before in some other articles, so I decided to use it. If it's deemed to be "unencyclopedic" (for lack of a better term) then so be it; I have no problem with it being reverted if that is the case. I don't normally edit articles for musicians or other individuals anyway.   Grunty89 |Let's talk about that.  07:42, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: What was the point of changing it? Just to increase your number of edits? It’s been Deen J. Castronovo since the beginning of the wiki article. And the title of your edit is supposed to have a more descriptive title. KaytieKay (talk) 07:46, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit from Grunty 89 

message: @80s Sam Did we really have to go around this subject again? *REVIEW YOUR SOURCES.* Covering drummer duties/session drumming does not a member make. Playing on an album does not make you a member. Playing on *one* song doesn’t make you a member. Why you continuously ignore this is beyond me. It’s like you want to perpetuate the incorrect info rather than do your research. How about listening or reading an interview from Deen. You can’t support a secondary source with another secondary source. @Sundayclose was very clear with this. You agreed to change it. KaytieKay (talk) 07:44, 27 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Former Member of VS Associated With