Talk:John Jenkins (Welsh politician)

message: To the anonymous user who created this article and keeps reverting my edits:
Your original version of this article had several problems with it, starting with basic formatting and style (see our Manual of Style for more on this). External links, for example, are generally collected at the foot of the page and not inline in the article text. Leaving this aside, such things as the list of people for whom Jenkins has acted as election agent or campaign manager are hardly worthy of inclusion in what is, in any case, an encyclopedia entry of questionable validity.
If you feel I was wrong to make the edits I did it would help if you could engage in discussion here instead of making wholesale reverts. Getting an account would also help if you want to be taken seriously, and it makes it much easier for everyone to keep track of who is doing what.
The level of detail you included in the article leads me to suspect you yourself may be John Paul Jenkins or someone close to him. Perhaps you could confirm here whether or not this is the case. If you are then there is a clear conflict of interest and you should not have created the article (see our autobiography policy; I would draw your attention particularly to the last paragraph). This alone is grounds for deletion of the article.
I would have listed it for deletion anyway as there are, I think, over 30,000 local councillors in the UK, the vast majority of whom are not sufficiently notable to have their own Wikipedia article. I didn't list this one for deletion because it seems Jenkins's primary claim to fame is his alleged homophobic comments which made him the subject of some controversy in the national media and therefore worthy of our attentions. If the article is kept this topic may end up becoming its main focus.
Finally, I would like to draw your attention to the following warning that would have been beneath the edit box when you submitted the article:
:If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, do not submit it.
This is not your article and you have no more right to decide what goes in it than anyone else.
I hope you will respond here and that if you edit the article in future that you will do so constructively and in a spirit of cooperation. Thanks.
— Trilobite (Talk) 00:43, 4 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for making that clear. However, I notice you have now changed tack again. First you tried to restore the article to your original version, then you tried to get rid of it altogether by blanking the text which is not the way deletion works around here. Now I see you have removed all reference to the alleged homophobic comments and the associated controversy which is probably the main reason this man will be of interest to readers outside Llanelli. On Wikipedia's criteria for inclusion of biographies we have "major local political figures who receive significant press coverage" and "persons achieving renown or notoriety for their involvement in newsworthy events". The article as it currently stands, making no mention of the controversy, would appear to be about just another local councillor of no significance beyond Carmarthenshire. I would like to see this article present the facts about the controversy, the claims made by people comdemning Jenkins, and claims made by him and people defending him. I hope you can help make this an article that presents Jenkins fairly and from a neutral point of view without glossing over what seems to be the main thing that makes him worthy of a Wikipedia entry. Thanks for creating the article and laying the foundations. — Trilobite (Talk) 02:05, 7 Jan 2005 (UTC)
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