Talk:Races in The Legend of Zelda series

message: I was wondering why a page doesen't exist for the Fierce Diety? He is a very popular charecter and i belive that if Jabu-Jabu merits a page so should Fierce Diety216.12.83.170 00:00, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ehh... a section in this article, you mean? Neither character is even part of a race, so it wouldn't be relevant here. Also, the Fierce Deity is represented as little more than a transformation of Link in the game, the being itself is never shown. Haipa Doragon (talk) 15:39, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fierce Diety 

message: So what is the Oocca race called?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.72.21.221 (talk) 07:14, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the race name is given in dialogue, not based on her name, so it's not even clear that there is a difference. We'll check, though.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 15:41, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I can't find a japanese text dump, but the italian calls her "Polly Molly", and says she's from "the ethereal city".Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 15:48, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ooccoo is not called Ooccoo in Japan 

message: While human is never really used in TMC to include the Wind Tribe, there is this for the Armos:
These soldier statues here were built
by the Minish ages ago to help humans.
It's kind of a secret, but there's a
switch inside that turns them on or off.
Appears in the Wind Ruins.
Built by the Minish for the Wind Tribe
long ago. They look like stone statues,
but if you get too close, they move!
However, we still need some evidence that the Yamitami are considered part of the Human Race.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 16:11, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wind Tribe 

message: I say yes because a sufficent number have shown free wil and intelligence. They should be added for the Dark world alone. Many monsters have been shown to live in peace with Hyrule or even help link.
Delsait 20:35, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a race, though. "Monster" is a very arbitrary definition, it can refer to virtually anything, and certainly isn't mentioned as a race in any of the Zelda games. Haipa Doragon (talk) 20:44, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Those are already listed under Enemies in The Legend of Zelda series; I would say anything on friendly monsters should go either in there or one of the characters articles, likely the Recurring characters one. Haipa Doragon (talk) 20:55, 3 November 2007 (UTC)

text: They can at least be called "The Dark Tribe" - which is what ALttP calls them. If you want, you can subdivide that to "-blins, -robes, -nuts", but there is ample evidence for them to be considered a race (MUCH more than for Keaton to be on this page).Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 23:51, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monsters as a race 

message: The Gorons are not a tribe.
The Ho Ho Tribe and Ho Ho are the correct spelling i found that out after a bit of research(played the game). but still they are "The Ho Ho Tribe" not "Ho Ho Tribe". Ho Ho Tribe doesnt even sond right
The Yook are being referenced as a race not the Yook tribe so Yetis and Yook are corect. Also Yook is used as plural as well as Yooks in Phantom Hourglass so do not change exsisting type. Yook may be treated as tribe so what the heck
I was wondering since the cobble kingdom is one of the Three Tribes in Phantom Hourglass and is reminisant of the Kingdom in Ikanna Canyon in Majoras Mask if it could be considered a race. i know that they are deceased but they as a race were around and the ghosts of there people are still alive i will make the article but first i thought id ask for approval and maybe a spot of info.LegendLiver (talk) 22:29, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: HoHo being the correct spelling would make the most sense, because Old Man HoHo, is spelled that way. And I always thought Yook was a tribe (so it would be called the Yook Tribe), however I am not entire sure on that one either. Finally, I agree that the Gorons are not a tribe, but rather a race (so they should be referred to as Gorons, and not Goron Tribe). Artichoker (Talk | Contributions) 23:52, 26 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Cobbles are specifically said to not be human within the game, so they are their own race. Astrid and Kayo are members, and Zauz indicates he may be as well. Ho Ho is the correct spelling, as given by the game. Gorons are called a "tribe" in nearly every appearance - FSA, PH, TP, MM, OoT...Tribe is used as a synonym for race, not as a synonym for "village" or "small family". Yook is called tribe, as is Anouki.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 00:39, 27 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Here, I'll compile what races are mentioned, per game, and how their group is translated, just for reference.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 01:32, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ...that's what is done for every other tribe on the page. The "the" is completely redundant. For example, in the japanese, it is just "Hoohoo zoku", not "Za Hoohoo zoku".Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 02:31, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Someone just missed the whole point. Artichoker (Talk | Contributions) 15:27, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Zelda Legends has the text resource section for the community. They have text dumps for each game, all english and many japanese (sometimes european as well).Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 04:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: HoHo, Goron, Yook, and The Cobble Kingdom

message: But, the Ho Ho are "The Ho Ho Tribe" not "Ho Ho Tribe". Ho Ho Tribe doesnt even sound right.
::...that's what is done for every other tribe on the page. The "the" is completely redundant. For example, in the japanese, it is just "Hoohoo zoku", not "Za Hoohoo zoku".Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 02:31, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone just missed the whole point. Artichoker (Talk | Contributions) 15:27, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Zelda Legends has the text resource section for the community. They have text dumps for each game, all english and many japanese (sometimes european as well).Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 04:08, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ho Ho

message: Keaton has a link to this list, but this list contains no entries on the Keatons. JayKeaton (talk) 04:28, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Keatons

message: In the minish section, when it says "the sacred realm" is it talking about the sacred realm, or just something called a sacred realm.
Just want a clarification. It's been a while since I played the game.
--Superbub (talk) 22:29, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ...Just wondering.... 

message: I note that, under the Sheikah section, only Impa is listed as a known Sheikah. Are we then working under the assumption that the Sheikah indicates a race of people rather than people who have gone through a certain training? I mean not to imply that this is made up, of course, but I'm not personally aware of it ever being explained one way or the other. What I'm getting at, of course, is that Sheik, though Princess Zelda's alternate form, certainly shows all signs of Sheikah training, likely given to her by Impa, but is not listed as such. I'm not sure if this is right or wrong, but I would be interested in discussing the reasoning for it here. 12.217.11.107 (talk) 09:56, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OoT specifically calls the Sheikah a race, several times, and they are known as the "Shadow Folk". Impa is said once or twice to be the last one remaining. I should think that that's pretty clear. A text dump should provide sufficient quotes - if you can't find them, just notify me and I'll look for them.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 18:16, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll trust you on that. A nonissue. Midaki (talk) 04:12, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sheik and the Sheikah

message: This Ho Ho tribesman who lost his telescope is not Hoiger Howgendoogen. Hoiger Howgendoogen is Nyeve's sister, the owner of the kaleidescope given to Link in exchange for the Hero's New Clothes, and is given to said tribesman in exchange for Nyave's Guard notebok. Xparasite9 (talk) 03:10, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ...Nyeve's SISTER? It's "The Hero", and it's his brother. In any case, no. The Ho Ho specifically calls himself Hoiger Howgendoogen (he says "look, it has my name on it:...", and the name is obviously a Ho Ho name.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 03:50, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hoiger Howgendoogen 

message: In the first paragraph of the Spirits section it splits the Spirits into two groups Gods and Gaurdian Spirits. I do not see why these words have likes to articles with the same name when they have nothing to do with Zelda. I am correcting it.LegendLiver (talk) 01:28, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Sprirts Section 

message: I moved an interesting fact about the Kokiri from what I belive to be the wrong page. I pasted it in the Kokiri section, but it came out bold. Please help because it is out of my power Gregory E. Miller (talk) 22:30, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello, I have cleaned up the information you added. Also, what is this "wrong page" of which you speak? Artichoker (Discussion) 23:04, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was part of Saria's section on the character's page. He is right, it didn't really belong there.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 13:32, 9 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kokiri 

message: I was looking at Telma when playing TP, and she looked like she might be a Sheikah. Does anyone know anything about this? IPodxjunkie (talk) 02:06, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No; as far as I know, she's just a Hylian. Haipa Doragon (talk • contributions) 02:14, 28 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Telma 

message: Obviously whoever changed this article is misinformed. The "Pig Men" are called Moblins and i will change this. LegendLiver (talk) 00:45, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Pig Warriors appear in several games, and were not merged with Moblins until TWW.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 02:50, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: i dont have any proof but are the two ever stated to be different? also i meant have a seperate minisection not delete them.LegendLiver (talk) 23:17, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, in every appearance they have before TWW, when they were merged. As I stated earlier.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 08:47, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

text: What I meant was, is there any in game text that states the differnece between the two monsters.LegendLiver (talk) 23:52, 13 September 2008 (UTC)

text: Not in-game, but there is official text like the Hyrule Encyclopedia or the official Nintendo Player's Guides.Not even Mr. Lister's Koromon survived intact. 11:27, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ok then. i was just thinking that since they were seperated at one point they should have seperate articles.LegendLiver (talk) 17:15, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pig Men Warriors