Talk:Michael Schiavo

message: This article is currently of a low quality.  There is some relevant information that could be here, but isn't.  We could also have quotes from Michael about the case.  Michael Schiavo is (or was) newsworthy because of his role in the Terri case.  There should be biographical information about the guy, and also some information on his actions in the case and afterwards.  Yes, a lot of that stuff is covered in the Terri article, but there is relevant information that's specific to the husband.  A Michael-specific item is the money he's been offered as a result of the scandal.  The Terri article currently has this information: 
On March 11, 2005, media tycoon Robert Herring (who believes that stem cell research could have cured Schiavo's condition) offered 1,000,000 (USD) to Michael Schiavo if he agreed to cede his guardianship to his wife's parents.[72] The offer was rejected; George Felos, attorney for Michael Schiavo, described it as "offensive," adding that Michael had rejected other monetary offers, including one of 10,000,000 (USD).
If we could find out who made the $10 million offer, that would be good information for this article.  Another thing: I hear he's been offered $2 million for a book or movie deal, but can't find any reliable sources on the matter.  Did he accept?  Every source I've seen that mentions the deal is an anti-Michael opinion piece. 
The article currently has a contextless, unsourced quote of Shiavo inserted by an anonymous user apparently as an attempt to discredit him. If there is a source, it should be given, and the quotes should be given context.  This should be fixed before it gets back in the article: 
In 1992, Michael testified in court that he began studying nursing at St. Petersburg College around 1991. When asked why, he explained: "Because I enjoy it and I want to learn more how to take care of Terri.... I see myself hopefully finishing school and taking care of my wife. ... I want to bring my wife home. ... I married my wife because I love her and I want to spend the rest of my life with her. I'm going to do that." <BR> Eventually he became a respiratory therapist and emergency room nurse.
--Mr. Billion 18:19, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quality 

message: Since when has it become the job of a Wikipedia editor to judge if external news sources have published substantiated or unsubstantiated reports?  If there is evidence that a report of Michael's demeanor was inaccurate, put it into the article, otherwise don't attempt to characterize the "substance" of the reports. You might want to ask for better sourcing for all of the quotes. patsw 04:25, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Substantiated/Unsubstanitated

message: The details of when and where they met, and how their engagement became known to the public are verifiable and significant.
Why have they been deleted twice? patsw 13:52, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biographical details of Michael and his second wife 

message: It's one of the more often repeated errors in describing the history of the case: 
:[Schivao] alleged that G. Stephen Igel, an obstetrician whom the couple had been seeing in their efforts to conceive, missed symptoms of Terri's eating disorder,...
Actually, the symptoms were infertility and it was alleged that Igel should given her a detailed interview on her diet and tested for an eating disorder, and his alleged negligence was not in performing these.  In the 2005 autopsy no characteristic scarring of the esophagus was found indicative of bulimia.  Tests for bulimia before or after her collapse would have been negative.  It's the POV that simply assumes Terri had a eating disorder and therefore was to blame for her own collapse. patsw 03:59, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eating Disorder 

message: "Fired six times in two years".  What two years were those?  Florida? -- Pinktulip 16:47, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fired six times: when? 

message: I am removing the second editor's note, about broken marriage vows, because I don't see what it adds to our understanding of the epitaph.  We can all decide for ourselves what Schiavo meant.
I am removing the word "illegitimate" as POV, because a lot of people feel that children become legitimate when the mother and father marry, even if this takes place after birth.
I am removing the word "adultery" as POV.  I don't know whether it applies in the legal sense, I imagine there is controversy over that.  But in the everyday sense, those who feel that Terri Schiavo was meaningfully alive following her injury will consider Michael an adulterer; those who disagree would not.
--Allen 22:00, 6 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  explanation of my changes 

message: I deleted the sentence "Michael and Terri were never divorced" since it more more objective to state things that actually happened, rather than things that didn't happen.
Since nothing states the couple was divorced, there is no reason for the reader to assume they were (and parallel, no reason for the writer to state). 
It is my hope that the second Mrs. Schiavo does not fail in health before Michael Schiavo, or he may have her DNR'd as well.  
It's a gratuitous phrase, in other words, and seems inserted only to imply adultery in an incongruous context -- suggesting Michael was "cheating on his wife" does not provide an accurate account in the context of a woman whom doctors said over the years was in a persistent vegetative state from which she would not recover. I say this as a woman. - Herculaneum 16:33, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Remarriage

message: I have explained on the talk page for Michael Schiavo that your changes are not helpful in providing the reader with Information.  Please revert yourself. -- Pinktulip 16:38, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Herculaneum user page: Please revert yourself

message: I edited out a clearly loaded phrase, and from what I read on your site, you have been inserting very opinionated, editorializing things in this section. --Herculaneum 16:41, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pinktulip user page: Schivao

message: I am not interested in futher discussing a talk page that is already far too long.  I provide information that I feel some significant fraction of the readship wants to know.  I do so in an NPOV manner and I am willing to further discuss the article content as I last left it. -- Pinktulip 16:48, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Herculaneum user page: Please revert yourself

message: I do not feel it is NPOV to state something that didn't happen, as a substitute for not being able to put loaded words such as "illegitmate" and "adulterous" into this article. This isn't a place for advocacy of political or religious views. I'm copying this information and your comments to the Schiavo discussion page where I feel this belongs. -- Herculaneum 16:59, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pinktulip user page: Schivao

message: The afidavit by the former nurse was found to be without any credibility. http://mediamatters.org/items/200503230001 Ace-o-aces 23:35, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Nurse 

message: [blockquote]Gerbino, Joanne, Court Reporter. Transcript regarding "BARNETT BANK TRUST COMPANY as Guardian of the Property of THERESA SCHIAVO and MICHAEL SCHIAVO, individually, Plaintiffs, vs. G. STEPHEN IGEL, M.D., Defendant," CASE NO. 92-939-15, Purple Moose Marie Web log, November 5, 1992[/blockquote]
"Purple Moose Marie Web log"?  What on Earth is that? Search Google and there are no results that don't come from this page. Did somebody pull this off of a short-lived blog with a goofy name?  --Mr. Billion 03:36, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this a joke? 

message: This article was automatically  assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 23:52, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: I removed the link to terrisfight.org because, while you can get hits on Michael on that web site via Google, e.g. this search, the references are fragmentary. The site does not attempt to profile Michael in one place so why put the reader through that kind of hassle?--Moneyhabit 10:10, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  terrisfight.org 

message: i would like to know more about the manner in which the expenses were paid. 
who paid them. 
was michael responsible or was she on state assistance? Who paid for all the hospital  bills?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.181.63.162 (talk) 12:34, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  medical expenses 

message: I deleted the listing of the Schindlers' book and the third book because they are not by Mr. Schiavo himself, nor are they strictly about him. The third one isn't even a biography, but an opinion piece in book form, so it's not useful as a reference for further reading about Mr. Schiavo.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joshc99 (talk • contribs) 06:33, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Books 

message: I removed some unsourced material and some external links more appropriate for Terri Schiavo's page if at all. Anyways, hopefully discuss here. TIA, --Tom (talk) 12:51, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Unsourced material and external links