Talk:Little Miss Sunshine

message: Hey - just a quick question - finally saw LMS 2 nights ago and it wasn't bad. I'm pretty sure there was a blooper in the scene where Dwayne and Frank are talking by ocean - at one point, Carell starts calling him "Dwight" instead of Dwayne. Maybe a slipup from his "The Office" work? Thought it was pretty cute....  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.38.107 (talk) 15:15, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As of today, in the "Production" --> "Casting" section, the article states that Steve Carell got his role in The Office after this film was shot, but before it was released. He hadn't met Dwight Shrute yet. Yours, Wordreader (talk) 02:49, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Blooper?

message: Can anyone list out the 4 alternate endings in the DVD?
:Here are the alternate endings as best as I remember them:
-The movie ends where the family is at a rest stop and Richard talks about old stories involving Grandpa.  The scene is very pretty and scenic - which really didn't fit in with the rest of the movie.  The directors even commented that this was the original ending, but turned out to be too "sappy."
-Another ending shows the same scene where the cop lets them free and the family walking out and Sheryl has a pageant crown that she places on Richards head as they exit the hotel.  They laugh and Richard puts the crown on Olive's head and everyone comments that she did a great job.
-Another ending has same ending as above - but we see Olive get ahead of everyone else and checks to see if the coast is clear - and then we see the family run out of the hotel with a trophy bigger than anyone in the group.  They all laugh and run out of the hotel.
-The last ending has a mix of the prior two.  The dance routine ends, and before anyone can stop them, they take the large trophy and make a mad dash for the door.  Then the original ending ties in where they run to the van, push it, jump in it, break through the gate, and drive off into the sunset.
That is how I remember the endings...NYKenny 20:35, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Alternate Endings

message: I added some quotes from not-so-positive reviews to balance out the review section (While leaving in the fact that it has a 92% from Rotten Tomatoes). Janors 07:01, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: But now, THREE negative reviews are cited, and only TWO positive reviews. For a film that has a >90% "freshness" score on Rotten Tomatoes, isn't that a little bit too much negativity? 86.64.202.161 (talk) 14:50, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reviews

message: The edits made by 139.48.81.98 (talk|contribs) removed a large part of the plot synopsis, some wiki links and other information.  Because the synopsis was requested on this talk page, I chose to revert the anonymous user's edits to the previous page.  — Mustang_DVS (talk|contribs) 20:08, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That wasn't a plot synopsis, it was an embarrasingly amateur play-by-play.68.146.198.203 08:23, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Be that as it may, the anonymous user also deleted much of the information that hinted at the fact that Dwayne is not Richard's son.  The user also, strangely, un-wiki'd links and changed hard facts (like running time).  — Mustang_DVS (talk|contribs) 23:23, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits by 139.48.81.98

message: I saw this movie last week at the premier in Brentwood... without a doubt, this is the new "family-cult" movie for a long time to come.
Highly recommended!!
I likewise saw this movie today and was very entertained.  I would like to have had a better grasp of the relationship of the characters (the father and grandfather are apparently step parents and the uncle is the mother's brother).  The end is defintely Hollywood and was a bit disappointing, but there are so many lessons to be learned in the film about how to approach daily life, I believe that the film has the depth of a meaningful Broadway play and should not be considered just a dark "National Lampoon" excursion, which it may resemble.  The cast is incredibly good, even down to the uncredited role of Mary Lynn Rajskub of "24" fame, as the person who called the talent on stage.  I was particularly impressed by the apparent cooperation given by the Miss America Pagent in this effort, since the film, on the surface, seemed to criticize such pagents.  I gather that, over the years, the Miss America Pagent has tried to get away from the superficial attributes that make "winners" in other "beauty" contests, so, I suppose, the film helps push that image vs. the image of the Little Miss Sunshine contest.  I am not sure that this theme was completely developed, however, and I am not sure what advantage the Miss America contest can gain from the film.
I would have cut the chance meeting of Frank with his graduate student x-lover as being unnecessary for the plot development.
The middle section of this article is ripped off of a syndicated news thingy. Probably this should be edited and wikified. (check out spam://seattle.thewarrenreport.com/background.asp?pageID=9&catID=6 to see one example).
Is it just me, or does the girl remind you of Jules et Jim?
:How is any of this relevant to the Wikipedia article? I think you want the IMDB.com boards. This isn't a place to discuss personal impressions of the movie. Moncrief 17:07, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Anecdotal Reactions

message: To understand the importance of per theater average gross, consider this hypothetical example.
A film makes $20,000 per theater average gross.
If it is shown at one theater for one day, you have grossed $20,000.
If it is shown at 2500 theaters for three weeks, you have grossed over a Billion Dollars.  (And that's just initial domestic release.  There is also foreign releases.  Marketing tie-ins.  Merchandising.  Premium cable.  DVDs.  Broadcast.  Etc.)
So, "Per Theater Average Gross" is a very crucial measure of a film's success.
72.82.183.16 18:36, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Per Theater Average Gross

message: Could someone make a family tree of the cast using the familytree template?
:Also, Dwayne is from a former marriage of Sheryl's (Richard only fathered Olive with Sheryl). There's a scene where Sheryl made a passing reference to Dwayne visiting his father in Flordia, and "Divorce" being one of the things Dwayne yelled when he was angry after discovering he was colorblind. --DrBat 12:47, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was under the impression that he yelled out divorce because of the threat of his current parents getting divorced.  He had just heard his parents arguing in the next motel room over imminent money problems the night before. JeffyP 01:11, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, there's a scene where Sheryl made a passing reference to Dwayne visiting his father in Flordia.--DrBat 22:54, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family tree 

message: "LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE is an American family road comedy that shatters the mold. Brazenly satirical and yet deeply human, the film introduces audiences to one of the most endearingly fractured families in recent cinema history: the Hoovers, whose trip to a pre-pubescent beauty pageant results not only in comic mayhem but in death, transformation and a moving look at the surprising rewards of being losers in a winning-crazed culture. A runaway hit at the Sundance Film Festival, where it played to standing ovations, the film strikes a nerve with everyone who’s ever been awestruck by how their muddled families seem to make it after all.
No one among the Hoovers quite has it together, but it’s not for lack of trying. Father Richard (GREG KINNEAR), a hopelessly optimistic motivational speaker, is desperately attempting to sell his 9-step program for success -- without much success. Meanwhile, the Hoovers’ “pro-honesty” mother Sheryl (TONI COLLETTE) is constantly harried by her family’s eccentric secrets, especially those of her brother (STEVE CARELL), a suicidal Proust scholar fresh out of the hospital after being jilted by his gay lover. Then there are the younger Hoovers with their unlikely dreams – the four-eyed, slightly plump, seven year-old would-be beauty queen Olive (ABIGAIL BRESLIN) and Dwayne (PAUL DANO), an anger-fueled, Nietzsche-reading teen who has taken a staunch vow of silence until he gets into the Air Force Academy. Topping off the family is the grandfather (ALAN ARKIN), a foul-mouthed pleasure-seeker recently kicked out of his retirement home for snorting heroin.
They might not be the picture of perfect mental health, but when a fluke gets Olive invited to compete in the fiercely competitive “Little Miss Sunshine” competition in California, the whole Hoover family rallies behind her. They pile into their rusted-out VW bus and head West on a three-day tragicomic journey filled with madcap surprises and leading up to Olive’s big debut – which will change the entire misfit family in ways they could never imagine.
LITTLE MISS SUNSHINE features the directorial debut of renowned music video directors (and husband-and-wife team) Jonathan Dayton and Valerie Faris, who direct from a script by Michael Arndt. The film is produced by Big Beach and Bona Fide Productions, with Marc Turtletaub, David T. Friendly, Peter Saraf and Albert Berger & Ron Yerxa serving as producers and Jeb Brody and Michael Beugg as executive producers. The production team includes director of photography Tim Suhrstedt, production designer Kalina Ivanov, costume designer Nancy Steiner, editor Pamela Martin, composer Mychael Danna and the up-and-coming band DeVotchka."
...that's pretty thorough, and probably more than needed to make a suitable synopsis...  its from here User:Pedant 05:39, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: from Below the Line website:

message: Does anyone want to put in a summary of the many references to existential philosophy in the movie?  This is a theme that is obvious from the very opening of the movie with Dwayne's poster of Nietzsche, and continues as each character's choices direct and shape the events of the movie.  Further, Uncle Frank's choice to attempt suicide echoes Albert Camus' assertion that whether or not to commit suicide is the only great existential or philosophical question.  On the pier Dwayne comes to the conclusion that one's choices make him responsible for what happens to him regardless of external or uncontrollable events, which is a concept created by Sartre.
:One character's fixation on Nietzsche hardly justifies inclusion in the article. Camus was against suicide, so how does that relate to Frank? And Jean Paul Sartre was hardly the first person to realize that our actions have consequences. Most importantly, of the three you mentioned, Sartre was the only one who described himself as an existentialist. But as the only philosopher mentioned in the movie never identified himself as an existentialist, why should the philosophy be mentioned? Indeed, the passing reference to Nietzsche doesn't even merit inclusion. However, if a reliable source has written something about it, that's another story. Faithlessthewonderboy 16:31, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Existentialism in l.m.s. 

message: Does this page really need so much Trivia?! 
Half the page is bloody trivia!
:It's more annoying that half of the pages is completely pointless trivia than anything trivia itself being overdone. Robixsmash 19:39, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Trivia

message: I believe that the family tree in the article is incorrect.  It graphically shows "Uncle Frank" as being the uncle of Sheryl.
I saw LMS, twice.  Frank is Sheryl's brother, not her uncle.  Frank is the uncle of Dwayne and Olive.
Using customary genealogical methods, a higher positioning (or in the case of a horizontal tree, a more left-hand-side postioning) of person A is indicative of person A being in a generation that is older than person B.
We need to change the Family Tree graphic.
71.168.134.196 19:41, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can someone fill me in on this as well?  I am literally watching it now (for the 2nd time) and there is no mention of Dwayne not being the son of Richard...NYKenny 19:56, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Family Tree incorrect?

message: Driving without the clutch is quite an accomplishment, but possible with a manual gear. The car is accelerated by incline or pushing in neutral, and at the right speed, gear is shifted to third which will start the engine (ignition key needs to be activated). Shifting up and down is done over neutral gear during which time engine rotations need to be adjusted to the new gear,- this needs a lot of experience and mistakes will soon wear down the gear system.Ekem 14:34, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Reverted. Blackjack48 20:50, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Driving without the clutch

message: does it really need to say that the film was not shot in sequence? films are rarely shot in sequence, theres nothing special about it. i think it should be removed.
:It says that it was shot in sequence. Which is special, because films are rarely shot in sequence. Pele Merengue 13:01, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia. Again. 

message: We need mor info on the VW van possibily a page do you agree? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Superspiel (talk • contribs) 
:Are you suggesting an entire article devoted to the VW van from the movie? Konman72 06:44, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's just a VW Type 2 Microbus. The article for LMS already has a link to the article on the Bus.  to tough to die 22:08, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There were 4 vans used in the movie, all repainted to the custom color that was picked from among 4 final choices for colors.  One of the vans had a air conditioner rigged to it with ducts running from a towed HVAC unit.  All of the interior 'on-highway shots' were in a van towed on a trailer, in turn towing the HVAC rig.  The vans were not all the same year.  The van was set-dressed, including Cheerios crushed into the carpet. Sorry no NOR source for any of this. It was a Q&A after a screening User:Pedant 05:46, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is silly to add - but I remember reading somewhere that there were 5 vans.  No proof - just something I remembered.NYKenny 21:40, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: VW van

message: In the film Dwayne (the teen) has on a white shirt with a face on it. Does anyone know who's face that is? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 144.35.254.252 (talk) 20:55, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Big Brother is Watching You  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.219.69.69 (talk) 06:14, 4 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, the whole movie is pretty much a prop for communism. --Haizum    μολὼν λαβέ 09:46, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's silly. Nothing in the film has anything to do with communism. — Mütze (talk) 19:29, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Haizum's comment notwithstanding, films, especially good ones, don't leave anything to chance. Therefore, Dwayne's tee shirts must support themes or character in the film. If anyone comes across sources for the shirt's significance, please add the information to the article. My husband and I will appreciate your efforts. Thank you, Wordreader (talk) 03:26, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dwayne's shirt 

message: I wonder if anyone else has seen thematic connections between LMS and The Grapes of Wrath. There are some possible allusions i.e. Grandpa dying en route to their destination, destination of california, numerous car troubles, crossing the desert to arrive at destination, small-town unasuming folks progressing toward loss of innocence in the harsh reality of pagentry/harvest picking, themes of death...
There are probably others and I admit that some of theese are quite weak but hey, I'm just a simple highschool student don't pay any attention to me.
Also as far as existential themes, the above writer has good points about Sartreian existentialism, but Nieztche came before the real existentialist movement, and Camus always denied being an existentialist, but rather defined himself as an absurdist. Dwayne's soliloquy at the pier is more eximplary of post-modern philosophy (f*** it all). The movie also echos Simone de Beauvoir to some small extent in the undeserved yet inevitable denaturization of the second sex (females) and its dealings with post traumatic stress. Ah but I digress, oh well.Loridan 06:52, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  l.m.s. and Steinbek's Grapes of Wrath 

message: Removed this from the plot summary:
(this information is actually not revealed until later in the movie, however it can be predicted as Sheryl says to Frank, "I'm so glad you're here", to which he responds, "That makes one of us.")
It's apparent from the conversation Sheryl has with the doctor ("No sharp objects" he says) that he tried to commit suicide.  RoyBatty42 02:22, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: synopsis cut

message: didn't it win this in the idependent spirit awards? 71.65.34.160 05:34, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Best Director

message: I would like to know that Shayne Murphy, a politician, is listed as a pageant contestant in the cast of this movie. I have slight reason to believe that this might be false.--Ed ¿Cómo estás? 21:59, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  error in cast 

message: Anyone know? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Craigboy (talk • contribs) 02:04, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you mean Proust? --Georgeryp 19:07, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: * Not only that, but the book he took 20 years to write was Swann's Way.  He's right in that almost no one reads it.  I only know one person who did. --Procrastinatrix 15:07, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Swann's Way is only the title of the first volume. I've read the whole book, and I feel anyone who hasn't has missed out on one of the greatest and most rewarding works of fiction in existence. 91.105.10.214 (talk) 22:20, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What was the name of the writer Steve Carell's character mentions? 

message: So I removed the section References to Proust and Nietzsche under the justification that it is Original Research. The claims made are opinions that seem to come from its author. I have removed it from the article until it can be attributed to a reliable source. The section I removed can be found below:
===References to Proust and Nietzsche===
Throughout the film there are references to Marcel Proust's own bildungsroman In Search of Lost Time. Several allusions, including the denial of proposed beauty, as well as the transition of youth, are made to the text(s). It may also be argued that Dwayne, who is heavily influenced by Friedrich Nietzsche's writings, may have taken his vow of silence as an allegory for Nietzsche's works, which focus on the need of reason for existence (existentialism).
– DroEsperanto(talk|contribs) 21:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  OR 

message: Throughout the film there are references to Marcel Proust's own bildungsroman In Search of Lost Time. Several allusions, including the denial of proposed beauty, as well as the transition of youth, are made to the text(s). It may also be argued that Dwayne, who is heavily influenced by Friedrich Nietzsche's writings, may have taken his vow of silence as an allegory for Nietzsche's works, which focus on the need of reason for existence (existentialism).
</blockquote>
– DroEsperanto(talk|contribs) 21:30, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: References to Proust and Nietzsche

message: I recently reworked the page by expanding the production section and adding sources for the majority of the information that needed it. I nominated the article at WP:GAN today, so if interested, please look over the article and make sure that everything's correct and it has no errors, which will help the article pass. Good job to everyone that contributed to the article. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 22:53, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA nomination

message: I almost always write a very detailed review for GA candidates, regardless of how much work they require. In this case, I am pleased to say that no such outline of issues to be dealt with is necessary. Except for the image edits I made, I can find no significant place where the article is not in accordance with the Manual of Style and the GA criteria. Absolutely outstanding work, please let me know if you go for FA, so I can support. Also, currently GA is enduring a hefty backlog. If anyone would be willing, please consider doing a review (or three). I'd be happy to answer any questions a new reviewer might have. Thank you for your hard work, VanTucky 02:55, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Passed GA nomination

message: "modified the plot per FAC suggestion." 
Nehrams2020, How does the FAC suggestion call for eliminating rewriting I did? --BoogaLouie (talk) 23:12, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for reworking the plot from what it was before. I reduced the length of the plot to comply with the guidelines at WP:FILMS MOS. I did remove some content, but part of the edits you made are still there. I removed some of the extra details that weren't imperative for the readers to know (they can always pursue watching the film if interested in seeing these extra details). I don't believe that the plot section was reverted too much with the changes I made. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 00:53, 19 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: reverts in plot section

message: It is unclear from why the Academy considered Berger and Yerxa as "partners in the production process" rather than as "individual producers". Otto4711 (talk) 18:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oscar controversy 

message: In an early scene where the whole of the family first sit down to eat, there is a beautifully elegant painting on the wall which looks like it is a still life piece by the 20c Italian artist, Giorgio Morandi. Can anyone confirm whether it is a Morandi or a copy? billie_di  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.56.48.73 (talk) 21:36, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Morandi? 

message: Is the vow of silence link supposed to go to selective mutism? this seems like vandalism. 143.195.203.83 (talk) 17:21, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I linked to the Wiktionary definition. Thanks for pointing that out. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 17:36, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: vow of silence

message: < -- Personal Attack redacted --> Andrzejbanas is removing adventure film cats from LMS. Little Miss Sunshine is an adventure film, just because it's not like Indiana Jones or The Lord of the Rings, doesn't mean it is not an adventure film. It's a urban family adventure, they go into a quest, it's a inncer city adventure. Road films are by many definitions adventure films too. Unlike Inglourious Basterds which is not an adventure film, but a drama, IB is a war drama, LMS is an inner-city adventure film. IB can't be considered an adventure movie because the characters don't go on a quest or journey for an artifact. If man-on-a-mission movie is adventure films, then schindler's list and the godfather are adventure films as well, Well, I think both are more adventure than IB. Cheers. 201.95.48.234 (talk) 16:21, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't find many sources on it being an adventure film. I do not really appreciate these personal attacks so without a strong source, I do not think these bits of information should be added. Cheers. Andrzejbanas (talk) 18:51, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: At the time of passing its FAC, it was just comedy-drama. Not sure when the adventure bit was added. I think comedy-drama is sufficient for covering the genre, and that was most widely covered in the citations I came across (or a variant of each). In the future, please remember to discuss on the talk page before continually reverting and to always assume good faith. The back-and-forth resulted in a lock of the page which could have been avoided with civil comments about the topic instead of speaking about the editor who made the changes. --Happy editing! Nehrams2020 (talk • contrib) 05:22, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

text: It's well agreed among many members of the internet that TGTBTU is an adventure film. 201.68.112.222 (talk) 01:23, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well in that case, you shouldn't have any trouble finding a reliable source for your argument, and shouldn't have to resort to sockpuppetry. Ian.thomson (talk) 01:34, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm adding cat 2000s adventure films, because even though Allmovie doesn't mention it is an adventure film, they consider road films as a sub-genre of adventure. BusSDriver (talk) 14:14, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't categorize with every category if a sub-genre is included. I'll remove it since Road movie covers it. Andrzejbanas (talk) 06:25, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adventure film 

message: Please can someone tell me what happened to Grandpa's body?  It seems to disappear between the scene with the motorcycle cop and the scene at the end where they leave the pageant parking lot.
Maybe I missed something.    Wanderer57 (talk) 03:21, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Galaxycat.  I reviewed the film.  Just after they get Olive to the pageant hotel, father contacts a funeral home and they come to collect grandpa.  This saves father from trying to get the VW bus going single-handedly.  Wanderer57 (talk) 16:32, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The body 

message: I wonder whether there's some way to improve the navigation of Little Miss Sunshine articles?
A DAB might be overkill, it would be essentially two-way:
* Little Miss Sunshine, 2006 film
** Little Miss Sunshine (soundtrack), soundtrack of the film
** Little Miss Sunshine (musical), based on the film
* Little Miss Sunshine (character) in the Mr Men series and regular in The Mr Men Show
** Little Miss Sunshine, 1981, fourth book in the Mr Men#"Little Miss" series
** Little Miss Sunshine and the Wicked Witch, 2006, special edition book in the Mr Men series 
But we do have six lines all with live links and at least four articles, five really if you count that Little Miss Sunshine (character) redirects to a substantial description of the character at List of Little Miss characters#Little Miss Sunshine, and there's even the possibility of another on the 2006 book Little Miss Sunshine keeps her smile. It would be good to have the information as to how they all relate, somewhere accessible in the main article namespace... suggestions? Andrewa (talk) 01:00, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguation

message: the cast (as written on the wiki page) includes actors that were not in the film like James Woods and Steve Buscemi among others.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.30.205.191 (talk) 16:06, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  cast vandalization  

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*Box Office section is only a set of numbers with no commentary, analysis or projections discussed. No way does a film that grossed a 100-fricking million dollars not have its commercial performance analyzed by sources.
*Reviews section is a quote farm of only a small part of the critical reception.
*The lead is so short it doesn't even have a single sentence summarizing its plot.
*What does the screenshot of the cast in the van establish in relation to the filming? It's not as if it's showing all the vans or how the camera is set up with each van to allow for the varying angles; it's just an in-film shot of five people in a van. 
*I also don't see the necessity for illustrating the pageant scene. The caption in the text itself does a good-enough job. Did a pedophile upload the image and added this to the article?
*Some parts of this article's prose just feel off in a way I can't explain. But I can give explainable examples:
**"The directors had initially settled on Greg Kinnear to portray Richard Hoover.[citation needed] However, for the character of Sheryl Hoover, they considered several actresses before deciding on Australian actress Toni Collette.[citation needed]" In addition to citations being needed, why there is an contrast adverb?
**"There was some controversy concerning how many producers should receive an award from the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences for their work in producing the film." This sentence is informal and has no introduction of the timing for the reader to be aware of. Bad introduction to the paragraph.
**The Sundance section doesn't have anything details about... you know... the Sundance screening. It skips to when major studios bid the film following the screening. This is an epic fail and wouldn't get past C-class standards.
**"It was nominated for four Academy Awards and was awarded two at the 79th Academy Awards:" Insert Department of Redundancy Department joke here.
**Additionally, the controversy section consists of one paragraph that is why too long, a second paragraph of a vastly short length, and not enough varied perspectives from other sources apart from a Variety citation.
HumanxAnthro (talk) 02:23, 19 March 2021 (UTC)
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