Talk:Alyson Stoner

message: No mention of this?
Wikifried (talk) 06:55, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thriller video w/ [[Adam Sevani]] 

message: I was wondering whether it is noteworthy when a popstar is insulted on national radio - http://www.miley5.net/podcasts/audio/miley5_sketches_090119.mp3 TubeLover (talk) 10:25, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: yeah i heard about it here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gv4BLf0NAcs) ... Ilovealysonstoner (talk) 06:34, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  awwh thats mean but he was jst jokin so yea blah blah blah i dont care they are very cute together they shud get maried ok!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lolAlysonstonerfan19 (talk) 03:17, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alyson Stoner gets called a "monkey on crack" on national radio 

message: I removed the line "Shes the best!!!!!" from the article. It is unsourced opinion, not sourced fact, and violates Wiki's NPOV policy. Bellalunarena  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.99.123.48 (talk) 17:53, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No need to explain it.  It was blatant vandalism.  It often happens to articles about child actors/actresses.  Fighting for Justice 17:56, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  WEL SHE IS THE BEST SO THINK ABOUT IT OK HUN LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!?Alysonstonerfan19 (talk) 03:17, 1 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: They use they/them pronouns. If this is someone you look up to, perhaps try gendering them correctly? RaptorGirl97 (talk) 21:35, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: It was 14 years ago. Chillax 2600:1016:B109:B218:743D:75C5:439F:AB29 (talk) 21:36, 25 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: They're still debating about changing the pronouns on this page. I didn't initially see the date, but the point still stands. RaptorGirl97 (talk) 09:21, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed "Shes the best!!!!"

message: Could we get a picture in here?--Tricksterson 15:35, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: This was tagged on at the bottom of the page. If any of it is correct in needs incorporating into the article and tidying:
Facts about Alyson.
- Won small awards for dance contest at school.
- Hate spiders.
- Was considering to be Scienologist.
--MartinUK 17:06, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Does it really matter? Did they get married? Did they get divorced?  It does not matter if they dated or not.  Wikipedia is not a gossip column and their personal dating life is not encyclopedic.  They are just children.  Fighting for Justice 06:21, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed

message: In this whole thing there is only one reference. How am I supposed believe any of the things such as "Stoner is now working on music for her debut album. Rumors swirl she has signed a major deal but reports have yet to surface on exactly which label she has signed to." is that really true? This is something that needs a reference. The idea is too radical. Also, it says, here and on the Camp Rock wiki article, that Alyson posted, on her blog, that she was going to star on the new Camp Rock movie. This doesn't have any references either. Could someone work on this please?--Bansidh 01:28, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I found a reference for her being in Camp Rock from her official site but couldn't find one about her recording a new album. Maybe there is something at her youtube account. Ospinad 20:03, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: someone deleted it and i cannot get it back someone help pleaseKillkola (talk) 07:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I fixed it. For An Angel (talk) 16:12, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: deleted filmography

message: Alyson Stoner has been credited as Kairi in Kingdom Hearts Re: Chain of Memories. If anyone likes I could scan the manual since it has her name listed in there as a voice actress. Since it isn't film or television should a new section be added?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.193.229.228 (talk) 05:46, 29 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add another section? 

message: Per WP:COMMONNAME, this article should refer to the most commonly-used name, and I've recently reverted an unsourced change of name to the infobox on the basis of this. If she has changed her name, please discuss this here, especially with regard to changing the title of the article. It's not going to happen until there is a reliable source. Thanks. Rodhullandemu 00:25, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Change of name

message: Denied. Only PnF: Across the 2nd Dimension is not confirmed to have Isabella, yet, but wil place later when known; the others are already on the article page.  Isabella and Lego Liker Whatcha doin'? 00:32, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from Babiian6el, 26 June 2010 

message: ===Film===
Year	Title                                        	Role                   	Notes
2003	Cheaper By The Dozen                         	Sarah Baker            	
2004	Garfield                                     	Kid Rat (Voice)        	
2005	Cheaper by the Dozen 2                       	Sarah Baker            	
2006	Step Up                                      	Camille Gage           	
2008	Alice Upside Down                            	Alice                  	Straight-to-DVD
2008	Camp Rock                                    	Caitlyn Gellar         	Disney Channel Original Movie
2010	Camp Rock 2: The Final Jam                   	Caitlyn Gellar         	Disney Channel Original Movie
2010	Kung Fu Magoo                                	Lorelei Tan Gu         	voice only
2010	Step-Up 3-D                                  	Camille Gage           	August 6, 2010
2010	Child's Play                                 	Stacy                  	Pre-production
2011	Phineas and Ferb: Across the Second Dimension	Isabella Garcia-Shapiro	
Source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_and_Ferb:_Across_the_Second_Dimension
Babiian6el (talk) 23:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Filmography

message: Year	Title                                        	Role                   	Notes
2003	Cheaper By The Dozen                         	Sarah Baker            	
2004	Garfield                                     	Kid Rat (Voice)        	
2005	Cheaper by the Dozen 2                       	Sarah Baker            	
2006	Step Up                                      	Camille Gage           	
2008	Alice Upside Down                            	Alice                  	Straight-to-DVD
2008	Camp Rock                                    	Caitlyn Gellar         	Disney Channel Original Movie
2010	Camp Rock 2: The Final Jam                   	Caitlyn Gellar         	Disney Channel Original Movie
2010	Kung Fu Magoo                                	Lorelei Tan Gu         	voice only
2010	Step-Up 3-D                                  	Camille Gage           	August 6, 2010
2010	Child's Play                                 	Stacy                  	Pre-production
2011	Phineas and Ferb: Across the Second Dimension	Isabella Garcia-Shapiro	
Source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phineas_and_Ferb:_Across_the_Second_Dimension
Babiian6el (talk) 23:03, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Film

message: It says Step Up 3D is the first 3D dance movie but it is not that title goes to the movie Street Dance 3D  —Preceding unsigned comment added by David 99 00 (talk • contribs) 11:12, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed the claim. This movie took a while to come out. Maybe the claim was superceded in the interum? - SummerPhD (talk) 17:09, 7 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: First 3D dance movie?

message: Evidently the page has been vandalized enough that the edit function has been removed for all but those with authority (of some degree), and I don't remember my log in information, so I can't see if I can fix this while logged in.
The sentence "In 2005, she sang two songs from the soundtrack of the movie "Alice Upside Down" Lost and Found, and Free Spirit, in which she plays the lead role."  should be changed to something resembling "In 2005, she sang two songs ("Lost and Found" and "Free Spirit") from the soundtrack of the movie "Alice Upside Down," in which she plays the lead role."
As it stands currently, the sentence makes for some confusing (and improper) associations.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.217.233.83 (talk) 03:30, 28 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've revised the sentence. - Purplewowies (talk) 07:47, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sentence needs revising under "Music" headline 

message: If a source is needed for Ms Stoner's religious beliefs, I'd suggest this one is okay. —Tom Morris (talk) 16:03, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless her religion is a major part of her notability, it doesn't matter.  Which it isn't, so it doesn't.   a_man_alone (talk) 18:49, 22 June 2011 (UTC)

text: That doesn't even say what her religious beliefs are. She's just touring with a Christian singer. For An Angel (talk) 20:29, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion 

message: She's 19 now and that picture is when she was 15. A change, maybe? :o 70.190.99.92 (talk) 06:55, 19 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated picture, perhaps? 

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message: Can we please update her main image? We can use the one from 2019 that appears later in the article. Her previous image is from twelve years ago (back when she was still a teen), and she looks quite different now. UncomfortablySmug (talk) 06:59, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: For adults, portrait image quality is more important that "currentness". The current 2007 portrait image used in the infobox is a good portrait image – it's a headshot, and properly framed as such. The 2019 image is not a head shot, but a whole-body shot, and is not very good – IOW, it's a poor portrait image. So I oppose using the current 2019 image in the infobox – it's in the article, so it's there for anybody who wants to see a more "current" image of Stoner. If someone wants a more "current" image for the infobox, they're going to need to find an image that's an actual well-composed headshot image like the 2007 one. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 13:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: How can I find and add an image that fits Wikipedia's criteria? UncomfortablySmug (talk) 21:08, 4 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's the problem. Wikipedia usually only has a very limited selection of images for most bio subjects. When this is the case, image quality has to be prioritzed over "currentness". --IJBall (contribs • talk) 21:36, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

text: Please respond to the points made in the preceding discussion, particularly the reasons given. Your comments do not address the points made above. Geraldo Perez (talk) 02:03, 2 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox Image Discussion (2021) 

message: Everyone remembers her from all these movies but I remember her from this kids club house show . I cant seem to find it on the internet tho 174.251.208.39 (talk) 10:57, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The kids talk show 

message: Alyson goes by They/Them so I changed the pronouns in the wiki 😌 72.191.16.15 (talk) 01:25, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no reference for that and no sourced mention in article. Geraldo Perez (talk) 03:16, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  I believe past attempts at this indicated she goes by "They" or "she". If that is the case, it does not merit mentioning at all. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 04:11, 20 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Also I'd like to see some reliable secondary sourcing as support with some more meat than a settings form mention on a social media site. Sufficient to support a section in the article that supports this as a considered choice and reasons for it. Geraldo Perez (talk) 16:23, 1 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This is also what I would like to see – more than just an Instagram page. An actual independent source actually discussing this. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 16:56, 1 June 2023 (UTC)

text: I just reverted a bunch of changes reinstating the they/them pronouns. I took a look, and Stoner's instagram page does indeed note 'they/them'. On the other hand, her 'Movement Genius' biog has she/they (link), her personal website uses 'she' and the gendered term 'actress', and her YouTube channel uses 'her'. So, it doesn't seem clear-cut that Stoner has a preference for they/them over she/her. Girth Summit (blether) 11:44, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: the instagram post stating they/them was from last week and their youtube channel hasn’t been updated in a year so i think explicitly stating they/them and not she/they in a recent source and their instagram bio should be the authority here Alysonstonerpronounchanger (talk) 12:10, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: What about the other sites, like the Movement Genius biog and personal website? Have they ever spoken about this to your knowledge, in an interview or similar, or are we just going off those pronouns on the Instagram profile? Girth Summit (blether) 13:14, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: the blog and website haven’t been updated as recently as the instagram post. what makes the post an inadequate source? requiring a secondary source, like “an interview or similar”, sets a standard wherein queer people have to formally “come out” in the form of a notable enough announcement to make news. gender identity is often a private matter and discussing it openly may not be something alyson wants to do yet or ever especially being that the decision to make their identity known to others opens them up to discrimination as the violent backlash and lack of legal protection against trans people increases daily Alysonstonerpronounchanger (talk) 23:13, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: There would be no backlash to her making an announcement and she knows that - most likely is support and positive affirmations from people. If she actually wants to keep it private we should respect that and not amplify a social media tag into a very noticeable change to her Wikipedia article. We shouldn't be taking this seriously until she herself does. When she does, that will be reflected on all her social media accounts and she would be telling people about it and why she made her choice. Geraldo Perez (talk) 23:24, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Yikes, is that how this site truly operates? It comes from the persons own mouth and is their own words and that's not a valid source? RaptorGirl97 (talk) 21:37, 29 August 2023 (UTC)

text: None of which deals with the request above for something more than a social media site from Stoner on this – No change should be made without a secondary source actually discussing this. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 15:13, 4 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: read my reply to girth summit Alysonstonerpronounchanger (talk) 23:13, 4 June 2023 (UTC)

text: Interview mentioning their pronouns. https://people.com/alyson-stoner-says-they-were-fired-from-kids-show-after-coming-out-as-queer-7552607 213.122.137.27 (talk) 21:21, 23 June 2023 (UTC)

text: How about we stick with "she" since it makes grammatical sense and doesn't make the article ridiculously confusing? 2601:547:CA01:72B0:B567:36CF:8C6F:D63E (talk) 03:41, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: So the person themselves has said they don't use she/her pronouns, and your answer is "I know better and demand I get a say in what they identify as? I will never understand why it is so hard for people like you do give others basic respect when THEY personally ask for it. Sorry it is so hard for you to be a decent and caring human. So How about we stick with "they" since it's not your decision. What's ridiculously confusing is your lack of concern for others. RaptorGirl97 (talk) 14:15, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronouns