Talk:Jamie Bishop

message: Now that over a year has passed, this article needs to be looked at again in respect to WP:MEMORIAL.  I will begin this inquiry with the question: if he was notable as a professor before the Virginia Tech Massacre, then why is there not a single independent source dated before this event to establish this claimed notability?  The way the article reads now, it looks just like a plain-old run-of-the-mill obituary -> not appropriate for Wikipedia.  Rooot (talk) 09:31, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Jeez, another wikilawyer weighs in.  Didn't we argue this to death a while back?  Do we really want to spend our time arguing it all over again?12.180.144.70 (talk) 21:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ROOT, I think we have established this article's notability. You could try another AFD, but please be aware that its success is not guaranteed. BTW news sources are independent of the subject (Bishop). WhisperToMe (talk) 22:57, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know, there's no criterion for citations that discriminates between those dated before and after death.  If that were a criterion, a lot of articles would have to be deleted-- Crispus Attucks, for example. Geoffrey.landis (talk) 15:50, 18 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Unlike most of the folks involved in this article, I had met Jamie. He was a nice guy, but notable? No. Please read the part of the standards that say "significant coverage"! Lots and lots of one- and two-paragraph mentions do not add up to significant coverage. This is a memorial page, and sadly needs to go. We are not here to memorialize folks killed in recent massacres, for the same reason we don't memorialize all the victims of the Holocaust or the more obscure victims of Mao's and Stalin's purges. --Orange Mike  |  Talk 16:42, 24 May 2008 (UTC)

text: What about entire articles? Part of the problem with the obscure victims is that the lack of media attention means that they are not notable. The media focused on all of the professors. Also I believed Jamie Bishop created the book covers for his father's books.  WhisperToMe (talk) 16:47, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: 1) I'm not following your argument here. 2)No, not that I'm aware of; besides, that doesn't make him notable either; just a working artist. --Orange Mike  |  Talk 23:53, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: 1. Part of our criteria of whether a person is notable is whether the person is documented in reliable third party sources. If entire articles cover the man and his work, then this satisfies the notability requirement. Let's look at Wikipedia:Notability (people) - "A person is presumed to be notable if he or she has been the subject of published[3] secondary source material which is reliable, intellectually independent,[4] and independent of the subject.[5]" - this is a basic criterion. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:13, 25 May 2008 (UTC)
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message: The navigation box of the VA Tech massacre is in the beginning of Jamie Bishop's article. Shouldn't it appear at the bottom? I have never seen this on any other Wikipedia page. Has this been worked out before to appear this way? It seems inappropriate to me. Thanks! 74.69.11.229 (talk) 03:05, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this is normal on Wikipedia. It's called a  but this one is so old that it's using the old code. Feel free to fix its code and add an infobox to the article! —Ahnoneemoos (talk) 04:08, 16 January 2013 (UTC)
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