Talk:Active camouflage

message: I had an idea a while ago for this kind of thing, something made where on one side there was a tiny pinhole camera, and on the other side an lcd. These camera / lcd combos would cover the object at around 1 camera/lcd combo per centimetre.
[maestro] 08:30, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: had an idea

message: I discovered that invisibility and holodeck type technology are both inverse forms of each other based on a well defined shared geometry.
I have a webpage on Yahoo Geocities that details my work and explains what I am talking about,but i'm also new to Wikipedia.
Is posting personal webpages allowed in this forum?
:No. And it's not a forum. It's a collaborative writing project. What's the address of your Geocities webpage? Arbo 17:23, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you read the research done by MIT's Media Lab that gives astronomically-high (terrabit) figures for the data required just to create a single moment or frame for one hologram of one life-size person? I read this in Scientific American 15 years ago. The amount of data required for an active hologram of a moving human-sized figure is so great that even a roomfull of the processor and memory technologies we have now are inadequate for more one second of active movement, and the texture maps could not be generated on-the-fly; every possible rendering of 3D attitude and lighting angle would have to be ray-traced and stored in advance, with very efficient caching. You need a room full of Cray XM-P's for just one human figure, and any unexpected data to be simulated would be out of the question, ie: not generatable in real time. Even if you had all that, the hologram isn't going to look realistic as it does in Star Trek, where it is simply faked by actors. Instead it will look like your typical unconvincing flat-rendered textures in video games.
Data is just data, the storing and retrieval of which is subject to Moore's Law.  What requires a room of Crays today will require a PalmPilot in a few decades. -Toptomcat 18:29, 12 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Good luck with your work.  Arbo 17:23, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Invisibility and holodeck technology are one and the same thing, but at different perspective viewpoints

message: animals didn't invent it
animals don't invent
they adapt
Dudtz 8/25/05 4:18 PM EST
:Animals adapt to their environment/surroundings, and the cumulative process is known as evolution. I have changed "invented" to "evolved". Arbo 17:06, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Humans Didnt invent active camo 

message: The scramble suit, as presented in 'A Scanner Darkly', does not seem to actually be a form of active camoflage.  When I read it, the focus seemed to be on keeping the wearer's identity completely anynomous rather than actually keeping them from being seen, making them 'vague' rather than invisible.  
This established, what IS the first appearence of proper active camoflage in science fiction? -Toptomcat 14:37, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I want to say it was Neuromancer, but Gibson doesn't go into too much detail about it (from what I remember), although I remember it was an outgrowth of the same fabric Peter Riviera wears. I know the Ghost in the Shell manga was the first major work that demostrated it visually and broke it down somewhat technically, thanks to Shirow's footnotes. --YoungFreud 23:20, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Predator demonstrated it visually before GITS, I think. Dosboot 21:16, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Philip K. Dick's role

message: Apparently as the result of a somewhat incomplete merger, the "Active camouflage or 'scramble suit'" section and the "Optical camouflage" section of this article are largely redundant with each other.  They refer to the same movies and books as examples, etc. PubliusFL 15:49, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Redundancy

message: The significance of the  top photo is quite unclear, and its caption is unintelligible: Illustrating the concept, i.e. active capture and re-display, creates an "illusory transparency", also known as "computer mediated reality"  Can somebody rewrite that in English? Elphion (talk) 06:10, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Point of the photo? 

message: There were no sources at all in the following section, so I've boldly brought it here. If you can find sources for (parts of) it, feel free to add them and it back to the article. Chiswick Chap (talk) 09:01, 17 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I added the Halo, Predator, Crysis and Deus Ex bits. A Scanner Darkly’s scramble suit isn't per se an active camouflage, as explained in chapter 2 of the book. Someone with a Shadowrun rulebook or the Judge Dredd's comic could add references for these part. Lunaramethyst (talk) 16:22, 28 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: In Fiction --- with no sources ... 

message: Some fish (did the author mean in cephalopods?) can change color rapidly...  "including mimicking stationary patterns (propagated backwards) while swimming forwards." They can? Prove it! I can't find any trace of this in the literature but by all means put it back in the article with a suitable citation. 14:55, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  In animals, a remarkable capability, if true 

message: Removing this here just in case you can think of a use for it. Chiswick Chap (talk) 15:16, 20 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good stuff, but unfortunately not active 

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message: first non-stub revision used "color"; this article is AmE  Red Slash 17:18, 14 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  All the camouflage articles are in BE. Chiswick Chap (talk) 08:50, 7 January 2022 (UTC)
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