Talk:Xingyiquan

message: The first sentence in the article is ambiguous. It seems to imply that all Wudang styles are internal or all internal styles belong to Wudang which is not correct as both Shaplin and Wudang have internal and external styles. 194.225.239.176 (talk) 13:05, 11 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Wudang Chuan has no external styles TommyKirchhoff (talk) 01:23, 4 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "internal" or Wudang? 

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thread_title:  Improving this page 

message: As far as I'm aware, there was no discussion before this article was renamed "Xing Yi Quan" and I'm wondering why such a change was necessary. The reason given was that "it is made up of three distinct words". That may be true but that can be said of other terms like Shaolin as well. Furthermore, compound words exist in every language, including Chinese. Just because a term consists of several words does not necessarily mean they're supposed to be written separately. Monosyllabization of the Chinese language is particularly common outside China but is not favoured by those who are very familiar with pinyin. I seriously doubt the xingyiquan spelling caused any confusion. And unless we resort to the lazy method of simply googling the words, I wouldn't say that "Xing Yi Quan" is more common either. If anything, the most common literary spelling in English is probably the Wade-Giles form (hsing-i). Would anyone object to the previous Xingyiquan spelling? Morinae (talk) 12:24, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The only reason I would object is because the T'ai chi ch'uan page is more developed than this one, and some standardization should exist among these related arts, including Wudang chuan.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.52.119.236 (talk) 16:19, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: The history and origins on this page are a mess. I suggest someone with good sources goes in and revamps the whole thing. If not, I will take on this task. To say "XingYi is Taoist" as an absolute, then source a blog containing an obscure article is just not the way it's done. Even the junk about Yang Jwing-Ming's opinion is not at all impressive. Do any strong Wiki editors want to get behind me on this revamp ? TommyKirchhoff (talk) 16:26, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Hi, this is Allheart8012, you recently deleted my sub section 'Another disputed history of Xing Yi', and I have added it back. Next time please inform people before deleting other's work, I don't know which masters you consulted with, but Li Bo is a well-known Xing Yi master in China and he is the descendant of Li Luoneng's family for sure. You can consult with master Yang Hai in Montreal to verify what I said, he is one of the masters in US who knows master Li Bo.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Allheart8012 (talk • contribs) 21:27, 15 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another disputed history of Xing Yi 

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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Unopposed proposal, moving per WP:RMNOMIN. (closed by non-admin page mover)  ModernDayTrilobite (talk • contribs) 15:23, 12 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Xing Yi Quan →  – Two reasons for this move. First, as a martial arts style, there's no reason for the name to be capitalized. Secondly, accepted convention is to space pinyin according to words, not syllables. It can sometimes be a bit tricky to determine where the word boundaries are since Chinese is an isolating language, but here's some examples of the correct spacing: , , , . Notably, many of the incorrectly spaced sources depart from conventions in other ways, too:  and  both hyphenate pinyin names, which is unconventional. SilverStar54 (talk) 16:30, 3 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 3 July 2023 

message: Sorry I missed the above discussion. I agree "Xing Yi Quan" was not correct, but I disagree with "Xingyi Quan" and can support only "Xingyiquan".  
"Xingyiquan" is correct pinyin, and it is in more English-language book titles than "Xingyi Quan". Yes, the accepted convention is to space pinyin according to words not syllables, and that is why "Xing Yi Quan" was not correct, but we must go further because the rules of pinyin join together noun phrases that express a single concept. "Xingyiquan" is a noun phrase that becomes a "word" in pinyin. "Ziranmen" and "taijiquan" are other examples. Furthermore, all of these fully joined phrases are the most common versions in English-language publications as well. For more information on noun phrases in Hanyu Pinyin, please see: Yin, Binyong & Felly, Mary (1990), Chinese Romanization: Pronunciation & Orthography, Sinolingua, ISBN 7-80052-148-6, pp. 134-138, Section 1.11.
Before making a formal request to change this again, I will give others more time to respond here, because officially requesting a move starts a ten-day timer. Jōkepedia (talk) 02:49, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You're completely correct. You're welcome to wait before proposing the move, but I don't think you need to. It was a simple error on my part and no other editors seem to have been interested in this topic. SilverStar54 (talk) 03:49, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved, thank you. I had to request an admin do that because a redirect page of the same name existed. In the request I linked to our agreement here and in the closely related discussion at Talk:Yiquan#Requested move 17 July 2023, in addition to summarizing that "Xingyiquan" is the correct name under Wikipedia:Naming conventions (Chinese) and Wikipedia:Article titles#Consistent titling, and is more common in publications. Jōkepedia (talk) 16:18, 28 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional page move discussion: "Xingyi Quan" → "Xingyiquan"