Talk:Raven (DC Comics)/Archive 1

message: "In addition, through various press releases and creators' blogs, it is suggested that Raven will return to the pages of Teen Titans with an updated costume (see the picture in the infobox) either on or before issue #39, as part of the "Titans Around the World" storyline starting in issue #38. A few aspects of her new costume, such as her belt, are based on that of her animated counterpart." 
I believe this needs editting as the information is wrong, or I'm just misunderstanding it. As far as I know, Raven had her bodysuit during Infinite Crisis. I forgot which issue but there was a large spreadsheet of MANY characters during the Crisis, and you could see a tiny Raven with a bodysuit with the raven on her chest. Can anyone clarify and edit this? Maybe I'm just reading into it wrong. --LM22102 06:09, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I found it. Infinite Crisis #7 the two page spread of 34-35. You'll find her with Beastboy between one of the Green Lanterns and the Green Arrow. Clearly, she's wearing a body suit. So she had changed costume had the end of Infinite Crisis (or during, as she was seen in the crisis of Bludhaven with her dress.) But my point is that her costume change did not occur during OYL, but right after Infinite Crisis, maybe during. Maybe I'm just thinking too much into this. --68.104.30.122 06:16, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Updated Costume?

message: I think Raven's name is French. Ravin in French means "gloomy". --Gravity Control
:...That might be the root of the english word, but I'm positive her name simply refers to the bird of the same name, which is usually associated with gloom. --InShaneee 17:13, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: French name?

message: Raven's father's name is confirmed to be Trigon in the animated series. The credits and series creators if anyone needs to know.
:Fine enough, source it though, I bow to your superior geekiness :D --BerserkerBen 03:40, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Trigon

message: She's 13 in the animated seris they had a 13th birthday episode in the 4th season!
*13!... Disastrous! The age doesn't fit at all with the character of the animated Raven. --Neigel von Teighen 22:31, 26 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: She has a 16th birthday if I recall correctly, making her 15 prior to that. If she had a 13th birthday, that would make her 12 prior, and certainly not a 'Teen' Titan. Tyciol 18:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Raven Animated Age

message: Is it okay that I added that link to that forum on BB/Rav shipping?
:No. Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of links. This BBS is not canonical, highly trafficed, or relevant to the article. --InShaneee 22:21, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is canonical to the comic, just not the series, although somewhat implied. Tyciol 18:05, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Raven & Beast Boy's relationship

message: Okay, I read through and can find no information on Black Raven, and she does not appear in "Nevermore"--I just watched it and didn't see her anywhere. But I did see a Brown Raven who is not mentioned in the article!?  I'll upload a pic to show what I'm talking about. Sweetfreek 09:13, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Update: The pics I was talking about are now up... incidently, Green Raven becomes red in color during the "swirling phase" of their fusion!? I'll keep the episode a little longer on my TiVo if someone can tell me when/where in "Nevermore" Black Raven appears... but I'm skeptical.  In any case, enjoy. Sweetfreek 09:57, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I dunno...are all those pics really neccisary? Frankly, I think too much was made about the different colored Ravens as it is. --InShaneee 19:47, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know of they are necessary or not, but let's let them there. --Neigel von Teighen 00:09, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Black Raven... where? And what about Brown Raven? 

message: No kidding.  I'm not going to make wholesale changes to the page without discussing it here first.  But the "enemies" section is basically half of her character history.  And the fact that there's more text on her skittles robes than the Trigon stories does not reflect well on the article.  I do not see this newer organization as being progress, it was actually clearer as just one section that was simply in chronological order, without trying to organize stories by her wardrobe.  Propose:  1.  Move ALL the stuff on "Powers" to the very bottom, right before "Trivia".  2.  Make a "Character history" section, place it right after or right before "personality".  Put all the "Multiple colors of Raven" "Enemies" and "After Trigon stuff in it. 3.  Break up the "Character History" section into three sections: Before the coming of Trigon (Nevermore stuff, Malchior, Terra, etc.), Trigon , and After Trigon.  I think it would help make the page look a lot clearer.D1Puck1T 05:33, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll do anything you want. This article overwhelms me on top of all the other stuff I'm working on, but it needs to be fixed. If you want to tell me what to do, I'll do it, but I'm no Raven expert. --Chris Griswold 06:37, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can do it, it's really just moving text around.  But it's a big enough change that I want to give people some time to raise any objections first.  A lot of the damage that (I believe) has been done to this article could have been avoided by people discussing their big changes here before implimenting them.D1Puck1T 15:35, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I say do it D1Puck, and your plan sounds like a good one.  If you need any help, please feel free to drop a note on my talk page. -Markeer 02:05, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "To meet Wikipedia's quality standards, this article or section may require cleanup"

message: Yeah... about all this "brother, sister, etc." stuff.  Unless someone can give me an episode where she actually says "I think of you as a brother/sister/etc." I'm going to delete that whole section.  Near as I can tell, it's entirely made up of people's interpretations of her relationships, and not on anything actually stated.
:Please do. --InShaneee 21:08, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Relationships