Talk:Hedera

message: there is a problem with the statement that the larvae of the small dusty wave (idea seriata) exclusively feed on ivy... needs a reference for this as it conflicts with food plant data from many other sources which suggests it has  a much broader appetite.. 24.207.127.172 (talk) 06:08, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the article is most interesting, but could you try to make it more accessible / understandable to normal mortals?  If I understand it well "Wiki" means open or accessible to all(at least to most people) so rather technical terms such as : "palmately lobed juvenile leaves on creeping and climbing stems, and unlobed cordate adult leaves on fertile flowering ..." may be admirably correct, but could they also be accompanied by more everyday/layman's language or in order to help us non specialists to understand what the dickens is being described? Thanks! GRANBRO 22:52, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I have a hard time seeing how poisons is better than simply sawing off the stem or stems. There tends to be one or a few main stems.  But removing the dead plant may be impossible no matter what method you use to kill it. JöG (talk) 08:13, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
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message: The section "Problems and dangers" reads as if Ivy were a dangerous beast. Starting with the common fact that plants and animals can cause harm in new habitats it draws an image of a tree killing, building cracking plant that covers everything with a green shroud. That's just ridicoulous and against all facts:
# Ivy does not harm buildings more than it proctects them. Many old castles, town walls and other old buildings in Europe are covered with Ivy. Don't underestimate the weathering protection from Ivy. Buildings that are covered with Ivy retain a remarkably good stone quality. Especially centuries old limestone structures don't exihibit the typical weathering degradation when covered with Ivy. These old buildings are not in good conditions despite Ivy - they are in good conditions because of Ivy. And furthermore Ivy saves money: You don't need to paint your building. Buildings that are "harmed" by Ivy had deep cracks and lose stones in their structures before. Ivy does not drill holes or cracks into extisting structures with its "roots". The "roots" always remains on the surface of structures despite establishing a very strong connection.
# Ivy is not a tree killer. It does NOT strangle sourounding structures or trees and it does NOT take significant light away from trees that are covered by Ivy, because Ivy does only cover the bole of trees but NOT the treetop. You hardly can see Ivy growing into branches of trees. I never saw a living tree covered with Ivy being damaged. I even think the opposite is true because Ivy keeps weather and therefore tree fungus away which do harm the stability of trees. The extended windthrow because of Ivy is simply ridicoulous. A treetop even without leaves has a much greater effective surface to storms and a much greater leverage than Ivy that grows very close to the bole (and thus has a very small diameter and leverage).
# In contrast Ivy is a very important habitat for birds and insects especially in cities. Ivy creates a lot of living space for animals on even walls of buildings. Furthermore it is very robust and has positive effects on local climate: Walls covered by Ivy don't get heated up in summer and thus inside the building you need less air condition and Ivy helps cleaning polluted air. And last but not least the positive effect of green plants on human mood in contrast to depressing grey concrete walls.  
Yes Ivy can cover the soil and thus can be a strong rivalry to other small plants and thus can cause problems when introduced into new forest habitats as North America but eveything else is just bullshit. Arnomane (talk) 09:03, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: It actually protects them, according to Oxford University.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mwongozi (talk • contribs) 17:52, 15 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ivy doesn't damage walls 

message: Isn't that picture labelled H. Helix actually H. Hibernica (especially since if it was taken in Ayreshire). To me it appears that the leaves are a different shape - rounded - from common old garden English Ivy. The pic appears near identical to that for H. Hibernica on wikipedia.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.89.131.101 (talk) 00:32, 21 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture mislabelled? 

message: An image of a house covered in 'ivy' has recently been added to the article, but I wonder if it belongs here. To me, the 'ivy' in the picture looks more like Parthenocissus tricuspidata ("Boston ivy") than any species or cultivar of Hedera with which I am familiar. Specifically, the droopy growth habit above some of the windows, the reddening of some of the leaves, the relative paleness of the foliage, the shoots which appear to be growing absolutely horizontally - these aspects do not conform to Hedera which I am familiar with. Can the uploader of the image comment on how they identified the plant in question? PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 11:06, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, (I'm not the uploader) I believe you are absolutely correct, I'm very familiar with Parthenocissus tricuspidata, and should have spotted that distinctive way that the leaves are held on the branches. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 12:59, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I've removed the image. PaleCloudedWhite (talk) 22:16, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the correction. Fletcher6 (talk) 23:54, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
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message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Oppose per WP:COMMONNAME, sitewide policy that states "Wikipedia prefers the name that is most commonly used." Some wikiproject project users may disagree with this, but I don't think that'a good reason to trump policy here. Calidum Talk To Me 21:58, 11 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Admin please discard this vote per M:DICK and his failure to WP:AGF about my comment. Just because I disagree doesn't mean I didn't read the pages. It's amazing but people can, and often do, have different interpretations of things. Calidum Talk To Me 16:11, 19 June 2014 (UTC)
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