Talk:Douglas A. Zembiec

message: I realize that this might be sensetive but this article does not meet the notability guidelines. --192.94.73.4 22:08, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Online coverage doesn't really count. This means blogs, people's webpages and so forth. If it is something like the LA Times (404 link, btw) or Washington Post, then that does count as traditional media. He had received a nice array of awards. However, lots of armed forces personnel do and are also not notable. But what does notability really mean? I've never heard of him. I'm willing to bet that people have heard of Jessica Lynch more than they had of this person. Has he been the subject of a book or a large part of a book? Has he been plastered or at least featured repeadidly on TV? There are laid out rules in the guidelines but the spirit of the rules matter more than the wording of the rules. Please refer to Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Common_outcomes#People. The notability is also very temporary. Also, I just need to know: are you independent of the subject? I am sorrry to say, that while it sounds like the Major lead an interesting life and is no doubt missed, wikipedia is not a memorial. Finally, you're not really supposed to just remove the notability tag outright. I think an editor needs to step in on this one.192.94.73.4 01:45, 9 October 2007 (UTC)

text: How much TV? Was it national or local TV and how often? For example, just because a person was ABC's "Person of the Week" doesn't count as notability, either. What kind of print? A large section of a notable book or newspaper articles from, say a news bureau or a semi-national paper (WaPo, LA Times, USA Today, etc) ranging in the dozens versus a chapter or two in a less notable and a few articles in a several city papers is preferable. 
As it happens, my unfamiliarity with the subject actually is kind of a barometer. If you pick any random (American) person off the street and ask about Major Zembiec or Pvt. Lynch, I don't think that the Major will be well-known. The average, random person (like me) is not very familiar with the military or impressive figures, such as the Major, but we have all heard about Pvt. Lynch because of the news reports and also because she may have been used by the government as a propoganda effort. Contrast with Major General Smedley Butler who is probably more obscure than the Major but has the distinction of two Medal of Honors as well as his role in the Business Plot which is pretty notable by any account. Both Maj Gen Butler and Pvt Lynch are notable for these various reasons. I didn't know about the movie, though, and that might change things, depending on how popular or notable it is. So, in conclusion, it's just wait and see, I guess.
Per the deletion policy "Unregistered users placing this tag on an article cannot complete the deletion nomination and should leave detailed reasons for deletion on Talk:Douglas A. Zembiec. If the nomination is not completed and no message is left on the talkpage, this tag may be removed." Thus the tag is being removed.  One's personal agenda ought not interfere with accurate preservation of descriptions of notable historical figures for posterity. Resker 22:49, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I am sorry if this is being viewed personal. My only agenda is Wikipedia and maintaining its integerty. An editor will settle this and we can put it behind us, either way. OneNineTwo 03:39, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
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message: Isn't it against Wiki policy to allow unregistered users to submit entries for deletion? In any event, there's a preponderance of media coverage regarding Major Zembiec as well as a work-in-progress on combat leadership featuring his words and a movie somewhere in the development pipeline. For some reason, the request for deletion of this article smacks of some sort of a personal-agenda issue and don't belong here.
Fyrfitrmedic 17:37, 4 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, he will be remembered forever, just as Dirlewanger is.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.45.90.63 (talk) 21:54, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
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message: Can anyone find his official headshot (possibly from the Marines) in dress uniform?  I think that photo would be more fitting for the Infobox, while using the one currently there elsewhere in the article.  QueenofBattle (talk) 13:05, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
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message: I linked a pdf from the USMC detailing the establishment of the Zembiec award on 11 April 2011.  I'm a bit worried about citogenesis, though, as the wording of the bio included in the document is very very similar to the state of the wikipedia article at that time (and even slightly before its publication).
I don't know if the wording for this article was gotten from an official document that is no longer available or easily searchable or if the DoD document just copy-pasted the wiki article into their document (which can happen I suppose, even though they're the ones with his records).  Just wanted to leave a note here in case others see that a lot of the uncited statements in the article are covered by the DoD document. Jasonkwe (talk) (contribs) 23:03, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
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