Talk:Auditory processing disorder

message: Auditory processing disorder (APD) is about having problems processing what you hear, or having  listening problems.
APD is the listening disability
dolfrog (talk) 17:38, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not worth merging. Firstly, the Listening problems article is largely about a different entity: people whose processing is fine, but who aren't focused on the task because of personal agendas or acquired bad listening habits. Secondly, I'm not even sure the content is worth keeping; it's not a multiply-sourced neutral take on listening problems, but gives a presentation of the main theories of a single book - J. Dan Rothwell's In the Company of Others - as if they were generally accepted fact. Gordonofcartoon (talk) 23:44, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Merging Listening problems" into Auditory Processing Disorder

message: I 'removed tend to have behavioral problems' as I question the accuracy of that statement. my understanding is that behavioral problems tend to only come in to play when its co-existing with something like ADHD and Autism can we verify that this characteristic exists with people that only have CAPD
Tydoni (talk) 20:40, 4 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not going to revert, but if someone tells you "turn left into the station" or "lift higher above the washer" and you listen "turn right into the station" or "lift lower above the washer", you're going to be accused of behavior problems. Your confusion may well lead to other problems; lacking proper reinforcement, I can see how APD could lead to a poorly developed Executive Function skillset, resulting in a (somewhat correct but misleading) diagnosis of ADHD.  htom (talk) 02:13, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Behavioral problems

message: Those who have APD tend to be quiet or shy, even withdrawn from mainstream society due to their communication problems, and the lack of understanding of these problems by their peers. -it's uncited and it can be the opposite - shyness and withdrawal causing hearing problems, not the other way around. This problem looks very similar to problems faced by language learners who cannot recognize sounds of the foreign language, simply because their ears are not trained to recognize them.--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 01:49, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not a hearing problem, it's a listening problem. The ears are working fine, the mixups occur later in the language processing center -- and it can have the consequences you describe. Hearing (loud, quiet sounds; high, low pitchs) will test fine. htom (talk) 02:17, 7 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: So? Are you trying to refute my argument or are you just nitpicking?--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 01:47, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

text: Or if I wasn't clear enough - I meant that being a loner can cause problems with language processing, because recognising the sounds and words of the language needs practice like everything else.--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 02:37, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that a lack of exposure can cause the auditory system not to recognise phonemes (and thus words) correctly. That's not the problem with APD. Words that are known and used by the victim, both in listening and speaking, are mis-recognised when presented to the ear as other words (sometimes words with tangential association) in the victim's vocabulary that were not presented to their ear (their ear (and ours) hears the word "left" and their mind listens to the word "port" instead, to make an example, or hears "port" and listens "wine"), or words are not "listened" at all, they are just deleted from the data stream. If the external ear is at the lowest point of the processing tree, the problem (seems) to be occurring at a level (or levels) higher than that of phoneme recognition, at or above the level of word recognition. There's a similar problem that people can have of word confusions and omissions in reading and writing, and whether this is the same problem and/or cause as APD is unclear, at least to me. Clearer? htom (talk) 04:52, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: You are obviously talking about some different disorder. --Ancient Anomaly (talk) 04:11, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: APD is an umbrella term, covering a number of particular problems with a number of causes. I'm pointing out a flavor of it that doesn't fit your description of cause, but does fall into the APD diagnosis umbrella (at least the hearing form of it.) I think you're trying to over-simplify the complexities involved, which will not help any of the patients trying to learn about what their doctor told them, especially if they know they do not have the particular cause you describe. Yes, that can be a cause; it is not the only possible cause, and not the only possible effect, either. htom (talk) 22:07, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry, but all sources and everything I was able to find supports my version i.e. the problem with recognizing sounds and words, not hearing synonymes instead or anything similar.--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 22:16, 11 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: [] htom (talk) 01:05, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: So?--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 19:38, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sorry that your research shows that it's all phoneme recognition. You'd think that if that was the case that they would call it something like that, rather than saying it was a general descriptor including that. You could look at Aphasia or Paraphasia or (especially, perhaps) Transcortical sensory aphasia. htom (talk) 23:53, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Why? This article is not about aphasia. As I said before, you are talking about something else.--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 17:42, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

text: APD is an umbrella term for a variety of disorders that affect the way the brain processes auditory information. It does not include language disorders. People suffering APD have trouble with understanding spoken language, because they can't hear the phonemes. It's not aphasia, paraphasia or anything of the sort.--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 17:52, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: And I could not find anything about the "variety of disorders", so I'm tagging it with {cn}--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 17:57, 23 January 2011 (UTC)

text: You should read it. It indeed mentions aphasia, but not as a part of APD.--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 19:03, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

text: It isn't. You seem to think that this is a language problem. It isn't. People with APD have problems with comperhension because they can't hear well. Everything, including this "paper" agrees with me on that. Yes, they don't know what causes it, but everyone except you seems to agree that APD is a hearing problem.--Ancient Anomaly (talk) 03:02, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Compare and contrast, please, the bold and italic parts below of the first quote above. You seem to be saying the italic part is not there: A Central Auditory Processing Disorder (CAPD) is an observed deficiency in one or more of the above-listed behaviors. For some persons, CAPD is presumed to result from the dysfunction of processes and mechanisms dedicated to audition; for others, CAPD may stem from some more general dysfunction, such as an attention deficit or neural timing deficit, that affects performance across modalities. It is also possible for CAPD to reflect co-existing dysfunctions of both sorts.
Auditory Processing Disorder (APD) is a listening disability or having problems processing what you hear all sound which includes the human sound communication system speech, sounds of nature, sirens, alarms etc. APD is not a hearing impairment.  dolfrog (talk) 00:11, 21 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing cause and effect? 

message: Where's the visual equivalent of this condition, visual processing disorder? Strangely enough there's not an article for it on here. 70.29.244.213 (talk) 06:34, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  No VPD? 

message: I feel that King-Kopetzky syndrome should be merged into this article. From what I understand, King-Kopetzky syndrome is an outdated name for Auditory Processing Disorder, so basically, there are two articles abou the same condition.CircleGirl (talk) 04:39, 9 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed Merger with King-Kopetzky syndrome