Talk:New York high-speed rail

message: I agree with the below comments that all the speculative talk by politicians should be removed and the entry should stick to the facts. The entry never even mentions the documented history: That there was a government plan about 10 years ago to invest money in upgrading the NYC-Albany line, that some or much of the money was spent, but the intended improvements didn't materialize. There should be a section about the botched plans to remodel the old Amtrak turbotrains by a company called Super Steel. My recollection is that Amtrak and the state got into a dispute about who owned the trains, and they now are in storage. 
The proposed travel time on this page makes no sense... Albany-NYC under two, Buffalo-NYC under 3. The Buffalo-Albany segment is much longer than the Albany-NYC segment. -newkai | talk | contribs 13:35, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, NYC to Alb is roughly 150 mi. Alb to Buff is ~300 mi. I think the main difference is in the topography - the NYC to Alb route goes through mountains and is very curvy. The Buffalo route, on the other hand, goes through mostly flatter lands (esp once you get past Syracuse), which would in turn result in much higher speeds. If the NYC->A route took 1.5 hours, and the rest of the trip the same amount of time (therefore still within the design constraints), your average speed for the second segment is still only 150 mph - not really impossible on a straight, flat track. lensovet 21:13, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

text: There are more constraints on speed in the Hudson Valley north of NYC; more curves, more built-up areas where grade separation may be tricky/impossible/outrageously expensive, etc.  There's also a huge impediment to high speeds between Albany and Buffalo, namely CSX and its mainline freight traffic, but that is not, strictly speaking, a technical obstacle.  --CComMack 12:07, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Assuming BUF-ALB is 300 miles (483km), that would mean the trains would have to go over 300 miles per hour... Faster than the Shanghai Maglev!!! Trains have to stop, accelerate, etc. This would be about three times faster than Acela. This is ridiculous, and has to be an error. The fastest rail-bound trains in the world currently travel in the 185-200 mph range, top speed. -newkai t-c 00:37, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I updated the references on this page just now—it was still using the old  template.  On the idea about factual inaccuracies: there seems to be some confusion between what politicians are calling for and saying, and plausibility. This article doesn't really address plausibility, although it's not inaccurate that politicians may be calling for something that may or may not be plausible. A 500mph maglev does seem to be a bit of a stretch, but when you look at public projects they often start out much more ambitiously than they end up. The Second Avenue Subway was going to be a six-track system in the 1920s. It's still not built today, but it looks like it will be...as a two-track system. That said, it would be nice if this article addressed plausibility more. Bolwerk 22:16, 9 December 2006 (UTC)

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