Talk:Bill Moore (ufologist)

message: Here is a quote from Paulo Correa: 
:Yes, yes, you see, together, these enemies and false friends of knowledge generate a deafening noise where good or brilliant work becomes equalized to mediocrity and mediocrity is exalted. It 's all about assimilation, about vagueness - Zimmerman confuses the pulsed abnormal glow discharge with cold fusion cells, even imagines we invented the term abnormal glow discharge just to rile him up; but that's just as stupid as the persistence of others to reduce the PAGD reactor to a Vacor tube or a Moray valve. This dance of the foes and false friends is a form of goose stepping. Some years back I found out that a certain prominent fellow was for four months advertising my name as key speaker at a conference that he organized - supposedly hosted by the US government - without so much as having invited me. Then, in the process of straightening out this mess, I came to discover that the fellow was trapping us into a stacked test at the State Department where Zimmerman and Park would be the appointed peers and judges - and by the way, this we only discovered afterwards, for he always claimed to me rather innocently that he was powerless to select any of the 'judges'. If it were his show, why was he so impotent to determine anything - even an equal representation of views? So, I ask you - is he a fool or? Then there is the case of his sidekick - who has not only caused untold harm with his contention that perpetual motion is a matter of religious faith, but once phoned me posing as a representative of some wealthy american catholic cult of the Virgin's Bleeding Heart or other, on a millennium-doomsday mission that called for Labofex to equip the private residences of the cultists with XS NRG power plants before the year 2000. These people are like typhoid Marys - whatever they touch turns to rot. They either have a dire need to believe or else they are impostors. I remember, years back, when Moore stupidly fell into a similar - if more ominous - caper, with the result that the serious, lifelong work of Stanton Friedman was suddenly hijacked and transformed into a mere pillar for the hysterical fad of the abductees. Power is rather complex and works with many tentacles, most of its designs being carried out by unconscious carriers of the contagion. To think that there is anything self-correcting about power mechanisms is the ultimate in delusion.
What is that all about?  What "caper" did Moore fall for, which caused Friedman's work to be "hijacked"?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.219.242.203 (talk) 13:44, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Alleged harm caused to Stanton Friedman's credibility

message: This section makes very grave claims thus conflicting with WP:BLP. There is a single source given for the claims: Seligman, Michael B. (Producer) & Pasetta, J. R. (Director) (1988). UFO Cover-Up?: Live! [Video]. USA: Seligman Productions / LBS Communications Inc. Given the serious nature of the claims, any source cited should pass WP:RS. I am questioning the source used.Autarch (talk) 21:37, 23 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A better source would be Moore's own July 1, 1989 MUFON conference presentation, which is summarized in Jerome Clark, The UFO Encyclopedia: The Phenomenon from the Beginning, 2nd edition, 1998, Detroit, Mich.: Omnigraphics, Inc., in the entry in vol. 1 on "Dark Side" (pp. 301-319):  "In his lecture Moore spoke candidly, for the first time, of his part in the counterintelligence operation against Bennewitz. 'My role in the affair,' he said, 'was largely that of a freelancer providing information on Paul's current thinking and activities.' Doty, 'faithfully carrying out orders which he personally found distasteful,' was one of those involved in the effort to confuse and discredit Bennewitz." (p. 315) Lippard (talk) 19:35, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interactions with 'The Aviary'