Talk:Persian traditional music

message: I removed a lot of material, but before anyone blames me for it, keeping it there would have it remain a copyright violation...see here ...plus, it wasn't NPOV anyway. "Artistic gift of the Perisan people"?! -- Natalinasmpf 13:15, 18 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the Iranchamber itself has been known to engage in copyvios:  They've lifted a number of color illustrations from Osprey Military books.  Besides, you're an anarcho-communist opposed to plutocrats and their oppresive copyright systems, aren't you? --Jpbrenna 02:25, 10 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing of copyvio material

message: Why no mention of the rise of Modern Persian music (Persian Pop)? Kirbytime 22:49, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: See here: Persian pop music.Sangak 20:25, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
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message: Please consider changing the title and contents to Iranian traditional music instead of Persian.
Many of the artists and ensembles mentioned on this page are not of Persian origin, but are in fact Kurds.
Iran is not Persian, just like as Persian is not Iran. The ancient Empires weren't known as Persian Empires either.
This article is full of misconceptions. Changing everything Persian (except when it refers to someone of the Persian ethnicity) is simply put: wrong.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.82.163.173 (talk) 18:31, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wiki Title is Wrong 

message: Since the article is supposed to cover the classical music of modern-day Iran and its historical background throughout various eras, it is inaccurate and somewhat impossible to use the controversial archaic term of Persia.This term needs to be replaced with Iran, the well-established official demonym of the country.—Rye-96 (talk) 15:30, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Support 'Persian' and 'Iranian' are not interchangeable. The word 'Persian' pertains of an ethnic group, while 'Iranian' pertains to the nationality. And only half or Iranians are Persians. Lets change "Persian" to "Iranian" in the title, to include the other ethnicities such as Kurds and Azerbaijanis. And the unsigned IP poster above this also seems supportive of this. Amin (Talk) 20:55, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: True. I'd say we should think of it as "the traditional music of Persia" vs. "the traditional music of Iran". The latter makes more sense for sure, while the archaic term would lead the article into a complex direction.However, if we are to keep the archaic word in the lede because of the use of it in some sources, I think a simple a.k.a. can be a solution.—Rye-96 (talk) 21:51, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not this again. Persian is archaic in a modern political context. It is still current in historical and cultural contexts. Not everyone in Germany is ethnically German, either. Genealogizer (talk) 05:45, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, but Germany's official and only dymonym is German. Not a rational comparison at all.—Rye-96 (talk) 15:21, 4 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: And Persia's official and only demonym in English would have been Persian if the Shah hadn't been influenced by Nazi ideology and thus desired to convince people that Persians were "Aryan". What's your point? 2601:246:C003:C110:19E:4294:C102:3966 (talk) 03:25, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
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message: Good work so far. How about including a list of artists of Persian traditional music, both old and new, in this article as well?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.54.54.94 (talk) 03:50, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
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message: Why is the title referred to as "Persian" traditional music. As of today, out of the historical context, Persian is associated with the Persian ethnic group. Persians are one of the Iranian peoples. Just like the name of the country Iran which is derived from the Iranian peoples. The very large majority of the ethnic groups in Iran are of the Iranian peoples and simply labeling it "Persian" isn't correct. Although all the music is very very similar, it must be noted that there are a few different sub-groups of this music family as well. Sub-groups such as Azerbaijani, Kurdish, Baloch, Tajik, Pashtun, Lur, Gilak, Mazandarani etc music. Stating simply Persian will confuse many as nowadays it is used to refer to an ethnic group. I would propose changing the title the Iranian traditional music. Migboy123 (talk) 11:17, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
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