Talk:Nicola Roxon

message: I have archived the discussion as was suggested by a number of users, while there may be some information that isnt relevant to or the result of recent events I think its best to start all discussion fresh. Gnangarra 01:17, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Archived

message: I agree with Gnan's revert and believe this cat should remain off the article per previous discussions. Roxon's paternal grandparents are jewish, I do not believe this should make her eligible for the cat. Infact I am against the cat altogether as it's too ambiguous, I would not want my grandparents religion/heritage to be declared my descent. Timeshift (talk) 01:44, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. See the AWNB thread about Fooians and Booians where consensus seemed to mitigate against such categories. Orderinchaos 01:48, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Also agreed. Two of her grandparents were Jewish. The other two presumably weren't - were they (say) Catholics? Should we create a category called ""People of possibly Catholic descent"? How about "People who are not Jewish but who may have some relatives who were Jewish if you go back far enough"? Sarcasm aside the category is too ambiguous to provide any information about the people within it and is against the previously-mentioned Fooian/Booian consensus. I am mystified at the apparent obsession for attempting to label Nicola Roxon Jewish when there are sources in the article making clear she isn't. We had an interminable talk-page discussion on this issue earlier this year. Surely we don't need to revisit this every month or so? Euryalus (talk) 04:47, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Australians of Jewish descent 

message: there is nothing in this article about Roxon post 2007...surely this is the most important of her political career as a minister? LibStar (talk) 09:20, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 2008 onwards

message: I think this is very notable. She is the only real public atheist in australian politics and it is important to her. Spotsdoes11 (talk) 12:32, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Only? According to the articles that brought this to public attention, there were three - including Greg Combet and Chris Bowen. Each person's religion or otherwise is of course important to them... notability is about whether it is important to their biography, and it's not as if Nicola Roxon has in the public arena taken on the religion debates, threatened to ban religion in her portfolios or any such - just seems to be a largely quietly-held personal belief. Orderinchaos 00:02, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

text: She is not "advocating" atheism, the paper asked her, so if anything, it was advocating. I think that newbies who know how to use ref tags from the first edit who seem myopically interested in one tiny aspect of one article, especially given your upload of a copyrighted image claiming it as your own, usually turn out to be something else, but I'm reserving judgment. Will certainly be curious to see how this pans out - my hunches about socks usually prove to be correct when I get them checked. Orderinchaos 03:45, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

text: I would respectively suggest that they are different. For a long we have had editors claiming that she was Jewish and very few sources to support that or anything else. In my non-WP life I can understand that. I am an atheist, an ALP member in her constituency and I knew her. I do not think her atheism is anything like Abbott's catholicism. However, it is all mute. There are lots of references to Abbott's catholicism and only the one to Nicola's atheism. We follow the sources. It is not that notable. I just happen to know the sources are right. Go and edit something else. All your edits are about Nicola. Why? --Bduke  (Discussion) 10:34, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

text: It is not very rare to see atheists as mp's. This is not the USA. She is not one of three. We do not know. The source did not ask of members of parliament. --Bduke  (Discussion) 02:40, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Just for the record, the source does not support this. The press asked members of cabinet and shadow cabinet not the whole parliament. --Bduke  (Discussion) 04:04, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. Also atheism is hardly "rare" - I can think of five current or state politicians in WA alone who were openly atheist, and there's one prominent non-cabinet Senator as well who wasn't asked by this particular newspaper survey. Orderinchaos 04:13, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

text: ...And welcome back. The only reason I couldn't block (and for that matter, allowed an unblock), was we didn't have proof positive that you were the former editor Bruce99999, but you've been kind enough to provide us with that inside just 48 hours. Orderinchaos 03:22, 28 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Evidence? WWGB (talk) 13:19, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

text: I smell socks. Orderinchaos 13:32, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

text: I deal with newbies all the time, I'm used to the sorts of helpful edits they try to make and the way they engage. You're simply an old, banned editor back for some more under a new guise, so I have no intention of wasting any time on you. Orderinchaos 14:07, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

text: WP:OTHERCRAPEXISTS. WWGB (talk) 14:22, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: See notice on user's talk page and Wikipedia:Requests_for_checkuser/Case/Bruce99999. Cheers, JoeSperrazza (talk) 14:47, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Joe (sorry, forgot to note it here!) The sad part is that this BLP is the target of a rather obsessive person who has been trying to introduce stuff about Nicola Roxon's alleged religion or lack of it for the best part of 4 years. They became particularly active after the 2007 election and a number of others and myself wasted considerable time dealing with the user's concerns, only to find out that the user was simultaneously, under a different account, messing around with BLPs related to the Eurovision song contest and certain UK and Melbourne late night radio announcers. In dealing with that person I gained a fair amount of insight into how they operate, as well as a reasonable amount of technical information. So when I see them back again, I know almost right away and don't even give them the time of day - it's the best way to operate with these sorts, as attention is what they thrive on. Orderinchaos 15:19, 4 June 2011 (UTC)

text: I am strongly of the view that Atheism is NOT a religion. It is, in fact, the antithesis of religion. It should not appear in the religion field of the Infobox. That field in itself is problematic, encouraging as it does simplistic, one word entries for what are often quite complex views. If we had a reliable source where Roxon's views on religion were discussed in some detail, that information could be included in the article, but a one word Infobox entry of Atheism is just wrong. HiLo48 (talk) 03:11, 6 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Atheism

message: Nicola Roxon announced her resignation on 2 February (Australian time)  not 1 February. The link to the date used as the source for the entry will confirm this! 
Cyberia 15 (talk) 00:34, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  Correction has been made. Wikipeterproject (talk) 00:43, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 2 February 2013 

message: First external link should be updated from http://www.aph.gov.au/house/members/biography.asp?id=83K to http://www.aph.gov.au/Senators_and_Members/Parliamentarian?MPID=83K 58.6.131.50 (talk) 08:28, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --Anthonyhcole (talk · contribs · email)  09:15, 22 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Website update 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Please remove the link in the personal details section to Nicola's website which is currently listed as https://www.vu.edu.au/contact-us/nicola-roxon.
This page no longer exists, and Nicola is no longer affiliated with Victoria University.
thanks
Debby Kloot
Victoria University
Web Content Coordinator 101.173.78.44 (talk) 04:34, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Thanks for letting us know. HiLo48 (talk) 05:09, 18 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 18 July 2022