Talk:Thiotimoline

message: Does anyone know where he got the name thiotimoline?  To me it sounds like theo-time-line, but this is, of course, speculation 68.232.110.205
Well, the "thio" prefix indicates a sulfur functional group, and the "-ine" suffix indicates that this is an organic amine, and the rest of it probably does have something to do with time, yeah. Of course, that's just speculation. DS 22:15, 15 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Whence the name

message: The sentence about Spider Robinson at the very end is incomplete. I don't have the collection to put in the correct info myself.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by CarlFink (talk • contribs) 20:07, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  forgot to note a while back that I completed this reference with related info. Tkech (talk) 21:13, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomplete reference 

message: My copy of The Early Asimov states "the compound thiotimoline will dissolve in water … in minus 1.12 seconds. That is, it will dissolve before the water is added.". note two uses of the word "dissolve", and not "break down" as stated in the article. --Redrose64 (talk) 15:04, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chemical properties 

message: Is the name "correct" (in the appropriate sense of the term 8-)? Presumaby the binomial name is just "Karlsbadensis rufo", and "Rosacea" is the family name? If so the latter should not be in italics. On the other hand, if Rosacea is the genus, then "Karlsbadensis" should be the species (hence it should be uncap'ed) and "rufo" should be a variety.  Duh? --Jorge Stolfi (talk) 17:52, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just dug out "The Early Asimov: Volume 1", and on p. 113 we have "Rosacea Karlsbadensis rugo", with that exact spelling (note third word), capitalisation and italicisation. So, I'd say genus Rosacea species Karlsbadensis subspecies rugo, with the species capitalised presumably because Karlsbad is a place name? I do see what you're getting at, because Rosaceae is a valid family. On the other hand, in the article in question, Asimov deliberately set out to reference bogus journals, so why not describe a phoney genus too? --Redrose64 (talk) 18:25, 15 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rosacea Karlsbadensis rufo 

message: Possibly not worth adding to the article, but the chemical formula of thiotimoline seems to be CnH20+mO20N3 if the nitro group is present and CnH20+mO18N3 if it is not. Here, n represents the (unknown) number of carbon atoms; I'm not going to work out the minimal value. The number of hydrogens bonded directly to carbon is represented by m. Roches (talk) 14:54, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  A chemical formula, mostly in jest 

message: I have now twice added "intended to be mixed" instead of "when it is mixed". This has nothing to do with intention or lack on intention, it has to do with the fact that grammatically, if thiotimoline dissolves BEFORE it is mixed, that you cannot say it happens WHEN it is mixed. If different method of expressing that it is not at the time of mixing, but before, I welcome a change.(I'm working on possibilities now) I know this is science fiction and illogical, I recognize this. If English had a conditional tense this might be easier to describe. Perhaps it can be noted that it dissolve before it is mixed, without simultaneously saying it happens when it is mixed. Cuvtixo (talk) 16:54, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: You could just put "when" in quote marks to indicate it's not quite when. Richard75 (talk) 19:36, 2 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Intention

message: The Spanish version :es:tiotimolina contains nice 3D and 2D structures only I have no experience with adding pictures to a page. Simon de Danser (talk) 05:04, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: These images are :File:Tiotimolina-3D.png and :File:Tiotimolina-2D.png, and they are on commons. However, they could be seen as misleading, since thiotimoline is a fictional substance, and Asimov does not give details of its structure. In particular, a two-dimensional image cannot represent a four-dimensional molecule except in the most general way. It's like trying to represent a three-dimensional molecule as a straight line with dots at intervals: this is OK for some inorganic compounds and the simple unbranched alkanes, but nothing else. --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 10:42, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: The term endochronic appears to be a legitimate scientific term used in articles such as Endochronic theory, non-linear kinematic hardening rule and generalized plasticity: a new interpretation based on generalized normality assumption, Some comments on the endochronic theory of plasticity, HYSTERETIC ENDOCHRONIC THEORY FOR SAND and others.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Deathmare (talk • contribs) 07:18, 8 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  endochronic 

message: # Using the endochrometer to detect the dissolution of the sample - one could use the output of that machine to trigger a robot to add water into a second batch of thiotimoline.
# This second sample would have it's water added 1.2 seconds before the first sample had water added...so the second sample would in fact dissolve 2.4 seconds before you added the water to the original sample.
# With a sufficiently long chain of such devices, one could arrange for the endochronicity to be extended to an arbitrary degree.
# Finally, all you need is an additional step that adds water to the first sample if (and only if) a certain horse wins the Kentucky Derby.
# PROFIT !
SteveBaker (talk) 04:00, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest that you read "Thiotimoline and the Space Age". --Redrose64 🌹 (talk) 20:13, 4 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  But you could go further. 

message: Regarding the notability tag, wouldn't this article be easier to justify if it was introduced in the lead as an article about the stories themselves, written by a famous and award-winning author, rather than an article about a fictional substance? Richard75 (talk) 13:13, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the notability tag is rather bogus, since it's been fairly well-known among science-fiction fans -- at least as much as Unobtainium before the first Avatar movie was released... AnonMoos (talk) 14:16, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability and article subject