Talk:Icelanders

message: Is there any particular reason this is at "Icelanders", and not Icelandic people? The latter seems to be the usual name for such articles... Shimgray | talk | 21:26, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This was the original title. As Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups says, "As of January 2006, there is no strong consensus on naming of articles about ethnic groups". Interestingly, reading this list, it seems that there is an even spread (ie. x people to xians/ers). Daniel Bryant 01:48, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming

message: I removed a phrase which insisted that "in the contrary of other Europeans, the Icelanders are genetically highly homegenous. This utter false, and on the contrary Iceland is genetically one of the most heterogenous ethnicities in Europe. This despite the geographical isolation. I will add sources later.Podomi (talk) 16:07, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: For editors interested, there's an RfC currently being held: Should sections on genetics be removed from pages on ethnic groups?. As this will almost certainly result in the removal of the "genetics" section from this article, I'd encourage any contributors to voice their opinions there. --Katangais (talk) 20:04, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Genetics

message: For dedicated editors of this page: The "Related Groups" info was removed from all  infoboxes. Comments may be left on the Ethnic groups talk page. Ling.Nut 17:05, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "related groups" info removed from infobox 

message: In the article History of Iceland we find this: "Though geographically removed from Europe, Iceland was never isolated. Mariners from many nations (though mostly from Scandinavia, France, Germany and England) came to call and trade at Iceland's ports throughout the Middle Ages and early modern period."
And in this article we find this: "Due to the isolated location of Iceland, the immigration and genetic inflow was limited in its indigenous population for hundreds of years; thus the population was considered to be highly homogeneous in terms of its genes."
Isn't this rather contradictory? Plus the was in that last sentence - if that was the view, what is then the current view? --85.220.81.19 23:32, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It probably is a myth, although I'm sorry to say I have no works at hand to quote from. But there was always a strong economic bond between Iceland and the rest of Europe. There was (quoting from memory, fairly reliable in this case) of Norwegians and others, and the Hansa and the English were more or less permanent fixtures of the landscape. In addition to that, everyone who could sent his sons to Denmark or Germany for education. (Poor or not, when a talent was discovered, there are numerous examples of well-wishers pooling to see that talent grow and sending him away to Copenhagen - probably a result of the enormous prestige learning has always had in the country.) Some (and now I'm trying to remember), brought back wives. In addition to that, there were of course numerous "bastards" born as a result of the continuning presence of Norwegians, Germans, Englishmen and Danes. In any case, regardless of genetics, Iceland was never culturally isolated from Europe. Cheers Io 20:15, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The homogeneous nature of a group of people is naturally relative to levels everywhere else. Daniel 07:24, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Obviously... do you have a source for the proposition that Icelanders are more homogeneous than everywhere else? --157.157.230.253 (talk) 16:52, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  In fact, the article itself contradicts this view, citing Árnason et al. Therefore it is strange to see this in the introduction.. --157.157.230.253 (talk) 16:55, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

text: Appears to be obviously lacking ... To which listed group (Norwegians, Germans, Englishmen and Danes, and Hansa) do we owe the almond eyes? Greenland Inuit, perhaps?166.128.175.20 (talk) 05:18, 2 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Taking me as an example, I'm supposedly as "pure" an Icelander as you can be; that is, records show that every one of my recorded ancestors (which there are records of centuries into the past, with gaps only starting to appear in 17th century records) are Icelandic, without any foreign influences. Yet I've often (well, at least three times I recall) been mistaken as a foreigner here in Iceland due to my "dark" skin (I'm very white, it's not that, my skin just has Spanish or French tones as opposed to Nordic). My father is even darker, with my mother more obviously Nordic/Irish. I am simply too dark for the records to be 100% correct, and the records are probably skewing things.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 157.157.76.92 (talk) 09:13, 17 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isolation - a myth? 

message: I would like to see some sources for the number of Icelanders cited -- e.g. 75 thous in Canada, 50 thous. in the US, 15 thous. in Denmark etc. -- Palthrow 19:55, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm trying to find which book I got this out of at home. Please bear with me. Daniel 07:23, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources for population 

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Needs inline citations:
#"Through this time, Iceland had relatively few contacts with the outside world."
#:Referenced to L&P(5). Daniel (talk) 01:52, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The article has been on hold for a week, are editors planning on addressing the above issues? If not, I will have to delist the article. I'll check again tomorrow. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 06:08, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've barely had a chance to edit this week, unfortunately. Please do not delist this just yet. Daniel (talk) 09:17, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem. Please contact me on my talk page when you are finished and I will re-review the article. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 08:42, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like the issues are continuing to be addressed. I will re-review the article in a week if the issues are all addressed. If you finish sooner, please contact me on my talk page. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 02:33, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

text: Progress was being made, but what happened? There are only a few more points left, which shouldn't be too difficult to fix. If you fix all of the remaining issues in the "other issues" section, and can't find sources for the remaining issues, remove them from the article and then readd them once a source is found. I'm going to leave this article on hold until 7/18, and will delist it if the issues are not addressed. If you need help with any of these, please let me know on my talk page, I'm here to help and don't want to have to delist it. --Nehrams2020 (talk) 06:13, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I know, I forgot all about this :) Doing some now, I've gotta go in 30mins so I'll do as much in this period as I can. Daniel (talk) 02:50, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've had an exceptionally busy weekened (see my contribs, I've barely edited), so I'll see what I can do over the next 28-or-so hours. Daniel (talk) 10:32, 20 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Sweeps Review: On Hold

message: I believe the article currently meets the criteria and should remain listed as a Good article. I have added some external links myself and attempted to expand the lead a bit. Please go through and review my edits and correct/expand as necessary. I'd still also recommend working on the sports section as well. If you have any questions, let me know on my talk page and I'll get back to you as soon as I can. I have updated the article history to reflect this review. Happy editing! --Nehrams2020 (talk) 06:14, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Sweeps Review: Pass

message: The section About Iceland is quite seriously flawed, in my opinion. For the first thing it's about history, which is covered specially in the following section, secondly (and more seriously) it puts forward a very strange and controversial understanding of that history, extremely critical of foreign rule and representative of public opinion in the years following independence but not generally accepted by modern scholarship. If nobody objects I'll remove the section. --Sterio (talk) 21:02, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Iceland section 

message: Except for Ireland, no other European country lost over half its population in one single period of time than Iceland when the volcanic eruptions of 1783 devastated the island's agricultural food supply and caused a famine to wiped out nearly a third to a half (100,000?) of the Icelandic population. As a result, about 100,000 Icelanders fled the famine and in destitution relocated to the European continent (esp. Scandinavia and the Netherlands) and the British Isles, but myth has it a sizable percentage were invited to settle in the American colonies (the USA and Canada), Portuguese colonies like the Azores, and Spanish territories of Argentina. It took 150-160 years (until 1944?) for Iceland to recover its' pre-1783 population and their demand for autonomy from Swedish or Danish authorities whom neglected them for so long is no wonder the Icelander exodus had taken place. + 71.102.11.193 (talk) 01:13, 23 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the census shortly after 1700 there were about 50.000 inhabitants. After the eruption, the population had dropped to around 33.000. So 100.000 is incorrect and so is "over half". Cheers 85.220.126.72 (talk) 21:42, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Lost story of an Icelander "Exodus"? 

message: From the article:
:Icelandic literature can be divided into three categories; Eddic poetry, skaldic poetry, and saga literature. Eddic poetry are heroic and mythological poems. Poetry that praises someone is considered skaldic poetry or court poetry. Finally Saga literature is prose that covers pure fiction to fairly factual history.[24]
The narrow-mindedness of this passage is almost impossible to fathom, begs description and is generally beyond understanding. If it is to believed, Icelandic literature ceased to exist in the 14. century. We fortunately have over 600 years of often great writing after that to prove otherwise. Would someone with time on their hands please add a few words?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.220.126.72 (talk) 20:45, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Literature 

message: In the religious category of the infobox it mentions the word secular. What is meant by that?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.220.50.21 (talk) 17:37, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secular? 

message: Silvia Night should be removed and Of Monsters and Men added. Silvia Night is long over and never really began.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.209.229.23 (talk) 22:27, 9 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No one seems to care or be reading this so I edited Silvía out and Of Monsters and Men in. As you said, Silvía is long over and the actress portraying her has moved on.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leifurf (talk • contribs) 22:53, 19 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: And even though this isn't necessarily about people "being someone" right now, I don't think she's qualified to be there. If someone disagrees they can edit her back in.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leifurf (talk • contribs) 20:51, 20 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Performance art 

message: Should the article be moved to "Icelandic people"? This sounds like a less ambiguous title than the current one (Icelanders). Epicgenius(talk to me • see my contributions) 00:58, 1 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move? 

message: Seemingly there is a significant number of commentators which support the general removal of infobox collages. I think there is a great opportunity to get a general agreement on this matter. It is clear that it has to be a broad consensus, which must involve as many editors as possible, otherwise there is a big risk for this decision to be challenged in the near future. I opened a Request for comment process, hoping that more people will adhere to this proposal. Please comment here. TravisRade (talk) 23:03, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: That is not an RfC and it doesn't follow the RfC process. It's just a collection of opinions and has no authority. Liz Read! Talk! 23:17, 15 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The RfC was opened correctly. please comment at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups#Proposal_for_the_deletion_of_all_the_galleries_of_personalities_from_the_infoboxes_of_articles_about_ethnic_groups. Dkfldlksdjaskd (talk) 09:29, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal for the deletion of all the galleries of personalities from the articles about ethnic groups 

message: Isn't 450,000 a bit of an exaggeration?? It is not corroborated anywhere else in the text and the number itself is not sourced. Adding all the numbers in the table up it comes out to a little over 330,000. 120,000 or more might not seem like a lot when we're talking Germans or Japanese, which number 10s of millions, but it is when it comes to Icelanders. 120,000 would be almost another Reykjavík. 141.138.38.105 (talk) 17:59, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Addressed. ProKro (talk) 18:33, 12 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exaggerated total population in the infobox 

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message: Please can someone move the article to Icelandic (ethnic group) rather than Icelanders. Icelanders is not the official name for the ethnic group it’s just colloquial.
: See WP:COMMONNAME: We use the name most commonly used in reliable sources. Skimming the article's sources shows that several explicitly refer to the ethnic group as "Icelanders", including peer-reviewed scientific papers. If there's a source confirming that the "official name" of the ethnic group is "Icelandic", I didn't see it; sources generally use "Icelandic" just as the adjective to "Iceland" (as in "Icelandic ambassador" or "Icelandic economy"). Huon (talk) 22:46, 3 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help request 

message: It would only take one or two celtic couples to greatly skew the genetics of Icelanders toward celtic. In a place that does not have contraception, celtic women would keep on having kids and would not stop until they hit menopause. Germanic women are much less aggressive at having kids than celtic women. The amount of celtic people who ever lived in Iceland with Germanic people may have only been like four celtic people.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.45.9.162 (talk) 07:34, 9 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  A few celtic couples greatly skew the genetics of icelanders? 

message: I removed the mention of Norn from the lead again for two reasons: According to MOS:LEAD the lead should summarize the article, and Norn is not mentioned in the body. Also: This is not the article about Icelandic language, so I think Norn is just not important enough for our article to be mentioned in the lead. Rsk6400 (talk) 18:05, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it should be ok to remove their little rant now, maybe this whole thing since it's over (they're blocked indef). I guess regular editing can resume. WanderingMorpheme 19:52, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Rsk6400 (talk) 20:00, 1 November 2023 (UTC)

text: @Rsk6400 They had been spamming poor edits across numerous Nordic related articles for days, thank you for stepping in. TylerBurden (talk) 17:36, 3 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Norn