Talk:Giovanni Bottesini

message: It says in the article that Bottesini's bass is now owned by a private collector in Japan. Is there any independent verification for this? As of last spring (May 2009) Franco Petracchi (noted Italian soloist, composer and editor) claimed he had it in his possession. My Italian is questionable and frankly, so is his English, so it is possible he meant to say he was merely using it, but I think clarification is necessary in this regard. He did confirm that it had been converted back to a four-string configuration and is very powerful above an open 'D', although somewhat weak below that - this is consistent with the information that is now widespread.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.226.168 (talk) 06:24, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: According to my understanding, Bottesini was born on Dec 22, 1821 in Crema, Italy. Crema is located in the Lombardy region of Italy. --Bottesini 15:37, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

text: About the confusion with "Juan" Bottesini, see my post on that article's talk page. As I did in my German version of the article (:de:Giovanni Bottesini), I'd like to put up a big caveat lector sign when it comes to all the info given on bottesini.com. The guy is obviously an expert on all things Bottesini, but also a first-class prankster with a rather outlandish sense of humor. Meaning that the site offers a lot of great resources and a heap of rubbish, too (albeit top-level  nonsense). It's a lot of fun for bass players, but I strongly recommend to back up any piece of information taken from there with a second, independent source. --Rainer Lewalter 08:54, 3 September 2007 (UTC)

text: You're right, most of the stuff on gbottesini.com is quite okay. I already did a lot of biographical research, and I have no problem with the fact that certain incongruities remain, simply because of imprecisions in the sources. Notice, however, that that is not the site I was talking about. bottesini.com (without the initial "g") is the place with all the weird conspiracy theories, the deliberate disinformation and the fake legends. Like I said, it's very funny nevertheless. --Rainer Lewalter 13:57, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, like it says in various places on gbottesini.com, there's a lot of speculation and insecurities surrounding the man and his life. I didn't want to go too deep into minute and maybe inconsequential details, but outline Bottesini's life, put his career into the overall context of his times, provide a general idea of his musical achievements and also, to a certain extent, give the reader an idea of the legendary aspects. My main references were the books by Planyavsky and Warnecke, which you also used, plus one book by the Milanese musicologist, Inzaghi. Some details were taken from more general musical reference books; as to the Arditi bio, I'm not at all sure about its value. About the Testore bass, I consulted a luthier residing here in Berlin who was lucky enough to have been given the opportunity to analyze and scrutinize the instrument as such under every relevant aspect. There's a link to his publication in the German article. If you happen to read German, maybe you can look through the article and comment on that version? Thx, --Rainer Lewalter 16:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, that bit is most certainly one of those bassists' inside jokes I was referring to. My conjecture is that the guy who put together that page assumes everybody, or at least every bass player, is in the know about Gary Karr and his famous instrument, now known as the Karr-Koussevitzky bass. --Rainer Lewalter 23:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

text: As a matter of fact, I can't escape the impression that the site serves many different purposes ;-) Although (fortunately, I'm inclined to think) it's quite an "old" place by internet criteria and many subpages are not very accessible unless you really want to find the spoof biography, a lot of fake information has found its way out into the world. Small wonder, musicians and listeners alike do love the legend business... For example, it seems to become accepted wisdom that Karr actually owned the Testore at some point in his career. But I haven't found any source that really would confirm that claim.  --Rainer Lewalter 10:41, 28 September 2007 (UTC)

text: As a matter of fact, the same IP did the same edit in the German article, which I deleted immediately. A little later, the same IP (a member, agent or ardent fan, one is inclined to suspect, since the person seems to know that site pretty well) came up with a more valuable link to an audio sample from a performance of the Elegia, which I thought was okay. That link is still in the German article, if you feel like using it here as well. --Rainer Lewalter (talk) 16:32, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
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