Talk:Clodia (wife of Metellus)

message: The identification of Catullus' Lesbia with Clodia is not universally accepted. In particular, there are several major chronology issues, a few inconsistencies with Catullus' poetry, and  several other candidates (for instance any of her 3 sisters?). When there were a million people in Rome at the time, and it can not be conclusively shown that Lesbia is indeed from the upper class, some people think the probability is too low.
Kenneth Charles 00:00, 10 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Actually, I believe Lucullus was married to Clodia's youngest sister Clodia, not the Clodia of Caelius and probably Catullus. It's an easy mistake to make, since they were both Clodias.
Thomas Fleming says "Clodius... was accused of having affairs with his sisters Clodia, both with the wife of Lucullus and with the more notorious Clodia, former wife of Metellus" (http://www.chroniclesmagazine.org/cgi-bin/booklog.cgi/Thomas_Fleming.Cicero_I.html?seemore=y)
My Latin professor had a book that talked about it too, but I don't own a copy of it. I think it was Catullus and His World, by T.P. Wiseman, which is a fairly authoritative source.
Plutarch is pretty vague about which Clodia it actually was that Lucullus divorced. He calls her dissolute and wicked, but that doesn't necessarily mean the most famous Clodia.
:I disagree. Plutarch explicitly says that Lucullus' wife was the youngest of the sisters, see. Cicero's Life 29.4. 212.87.13.78 (talk) 13:26, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second marriage? 

message: Weren't Clodia and her brother born into the Claudius family but chose to change their name to distance themselves from the social snobbery of old families? I heard this from a Latin teacher but can think of no references to printed work. Storeye 11:11, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name change 

message: Where in the world did the part about Cicero having an affair with Clodia come from, or that this lay behind the divorce with Terentia?  This isn't sourced, and reeks of pure and amateurish speculation.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.163.254.212 (talk) 03:28, 14 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Affair with Cicero? 

message: Also one for the wife of Marcius Rex? 41.241.48.74 (talk) 14:11, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Perhaps two pages: Clodia Metelli and Clodia Luculli? 

message: This is copied from the discussion page there, concerning the Relatives of Publius Clodius section:
I'm pretty sure this isn't correct. The sisters of Clodius are given as between three and five. He was the youngest of the family except the sister who married Lucullus, I think. And only Clodia Luculli and Clodia Metelli (the second and elder of whom is generally given as Catullus's Lesbia, although others have argued that Lesbia was Clodia Luculli or someone else entirely) were his full sisters, the other siblings coming from another marriage of the father's. One of the other sisters married Quintus Marcius Rex. At least both his full-sisters changed their names (again, I think. If I were sure I'd change it). And weren't they all called Pulchra? I've seen Clodia Metelli's childhood name given as Claudia Pulchra Tercia; Claudia Pulchra Tertia; and Claudia Pulchra Tertulla. 41.241.3.105 (talk) 20:39, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Claudia Pulchra article

message: Marilyn Skinner has just published Clodia Metelli: The Tribune's Sister (Oxford University Press, 2011).  Cynwolfe (talk) 11:29, 27 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Skinner's book 

message: When writing in Latin, there is no punctuation. A sentence is typically shown to have ended by placing the verb at the end. Since the quotes that are in Latin are followed by the English translation, there is no need for punctuation marks in the Latin. I assume this was done in error, or as a nicety for neophytes of Latin. However, this is not necessary since there is a translation. Please change this.
:I disagree, punctuation is common when writing in Latin. Just inspect any edition of any of the ancient authors. 212.87.13.78 (talk) 12:32, 24 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin and grammar  

message: There is no explanation of the meaning of Clodia's nickname, Quadrantaria, nor why or how she acquired it. If anybody happens to know, could they please add some explanatory words? I'm happy to do so myself, but I'd have to do some research and I'm very busy with work right now. Thanks. Mpaniello (talk) 21:56, 25 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quadrantaria 

message: In the Controversy section, there appears a lengthy quotation from the Pro Caelio. It doesn't seem to add anything to the article, since many of the major points are addressed elsewhere in the section. This quotation seems out of place in the article as a whole. Thoughts? Justanincrediblypreciousflower (talk) 18:57, 15 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The quote doesn’t seem too long to me. It is useful in that it gives a flavour of the kind of thing which was said about her in the trial. Sweet6970 (talk) 13:15, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pro Caelio quote length?