Talk:Phan Bội Châu

message: Where was he born?
:The article says "Sa Nam village, Ðông-liệt District, in the region between Mount Hùng and the Lam River." What is the current location of this place? Badagnani (talk) 20:13, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Birthplace

message: "The Vietnam Restoration League came up with a proposed flag design. Previously, Vietnam never had a flag, only banners to represent royalty. Their flag idea had 5 five-pointed stars, arranged in a square with a star in the middle. It symbolized the five regions of Vietnam. The national flag had red stars on a yellow background, and the military flag had a red background with white stars. The yellow represented their race, the red represented fire which represented their location to the south of China (see I Ching), and the white represented the metal of their weapons..."
What did this flag look like? Can anyone have more references or links. please? Le Anh-Huy 05:22, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Restoration Flag?

message: Should we mention that Tự Đức was the emperor when he was born? Badagnani (talk) 20:10, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Emperor

message: Why was "between Mount Hùng and the Lam River" removed? Badagnani (talk) 21:09, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems superfluous.  If the reader doesn't know where "Dong Liet District" is, it's unlikely they would know where "Mount Hung" or "Lam River" is. DHN (talk) 21:14, 26 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I haven't seen much significance placed on his birthplace in his hagiography.  The only thing that consistently gets mentioned is that he was born in Nghe An. DHN (talk) 21:25, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geographical info 

message: One of the thorniest issues regarding his final capture is the identity of his betrayer.  While Phan himself points the finger at Nguyen Thuong Huyen, Cuong De think it's Lam Duc Thu (Vinh Sinh).  According to Hoang Van Chi, his betrayer was Ho Chi Minh.  Joseph Buttinger, in "A Dragon Embattled" (New York: Praeger, 1967), also implicated Ho Chi Minh (for 150,000 French Indochina piastre). Sophie Quinn-Judge and William J. Duiker, both biographers of Ho, dispute this theory. DHN (talk) 16:28, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unresolved issues 

message: Note that Phan Boi Chau is one of the few Vietnamese who consistently gets referred to by his surname (Phan) instead of his supposed given name Chau (his birth name was Phan Van San).  This article should reflect that convention. DHN (talk) 16:32, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Britannica calls him "Chau". It was Vietnamese custom in Phan Boi Chau's time to use the family name formally, and this is a little fossil remnant of that custom. IMO, it is arbitrary and confusing to write this one article in such a unique and precious style. Other Vietnamese of his generation, for example Phan Chu Trinh, are now invariably referred to in modern given name style. Kauffner (talk) 02:26, 14 August 2011 (UTC)

text: Regardless of what this individual was called, the first paragraph at the top of the page is nonsensical.  First it says, correctly, that the family name in Phan.  Then it says that the given name is Phan, which is nonsense.  If he was an exception to the usual naming convention, and was called "Phan," the second sentence ought to read that way.  I tried to edit it, but that short paragraph must be part of a template or something, and I couldn't get to it.  Can somebody please help?  Terry J. Carter (talk) 05:43, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming convention 

message: There needs to be a reference to how it sounds like Fanboy Chau. Thank you. 78.150.12.229 (talk) 01:06, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: What does the bold portion of the following passage from vi:WP mean?
:Phan Bội Châu tên thật là Phan Văn San (潘文珊), tự là Hài Thu,
Badagnani (talk) 17:57, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Tên tự is the Chinese-style courtesy name. His courtesy name is Hài Thu. Similarly, Ho Chi Minh's name is Nguyen Sinh Cung, and his courtesy name is Tất Thành. DHN (talk) 19:51, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: There is a misunderstanding in Final captute section. Following these two Vietnamese sources baohatinh.vn and danang.gov.vn, Lý Tự Trọng shot inspector Legrand to protect lecturer , not Phan Bội Châu. Leemyongpak (talk) 08:04, 4 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed as the cited source is unverifiable, and the 2 above sources proved it is a misunderstanding. Leemyongpak (talk) 01:00, 10 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relation with [[Lý Tự Trọng]] 

message: In Marriage and family's citation - Vĩnh Sính page 28 and some pages around, there is no information about the last meeting between Phan and his wife. Leemyongpak (talk) 00:38, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Last meeting with his wife 

message: There is no citation for this involvement in Final years' house arrest. It looks like a baseless rumor. Leemyongpak (talk) 00:48, 7 June 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed due to lack of source. Leemyongpak (talk) 01:30, 10 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The involvement of  Nguyễn Bá Trác in Phan's house arrest