Talk:Field Spaniel

message: The page header was fundamentally incorrect, being taken from Peggy Graysons definitive book, the first 15 pages, when the field spaniel appears a few pages later! On behalf of the Field Spaniel Society, I have amended the header, and now will be updating the main body of the work via my sandbox. Please feel free to comment on it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Kriswarry/sandbox
I also wish to add some disambiguation notes to help prevent the confusion between a Field Spaniel, and a field bred Spaniel, usually a Cocker or Springer  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kriswarry (talk • contribs) 10:20, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: As noted below, I posted a fairly comprehensive reason for reverting the page. Given the extensive issues introduced across the page, I didn't really have much of an option. In addition, given that you have introduced copyrighted content on several pages, I am checking your edits quite carefully when I have the time. This isn't harassment; this is accountability. An issue has been raised regarding previous edits, so it makes sense for someone to check and ensure that your previous editing hasn't violated the same rules. Unfortunately it has, which is why your editing is under significant scrutiny at the moment. Stui (talk) 16:34, 19 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Inaccuracies 

message: I would prefer this not be applied to the article. Most breeds do NOT have over 300 puppies a year. The Field produces only 5-8 puppies a liter and breeders purposely do not breed excessively.--Watershipkennel 17:34, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vulnerable Native Breed 

message: The current picture is acceptable but I will be providing more pictures for this article.--Watershipkennel 05:27, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, if you want to link to an image of your dog - you should upload the photograph image into wikipedia and internal linking to that image.   If you need help with this procedure, feel free to leave a message on my talk page - Trysha (talk) 21:15, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: Going to be nominating this article up for a GA shortly. Just a note here to let the reviewer know that I won't be including this as a Wikicup entry as I don't consider myself to have done significant work on it this year. In fact, it was an oversight that I hadn't nominated it last October - I'd simply forgotten to nominate it. Miyagawa (talk) 21:25, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA Nomination 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: There have been a series of edits by a new editor concerning the Field Spaniel Society's preferred wording on puppy purchase and confusiuon with other breeds. Something along the lines of "puppies of other breeds are sometimes marketed as "field spaniels," leading to confusion among prospective owners", which will need a source in any case, might be suitable, but the encyclopedia article is not an appropriate place for informal "buyer beware" notices place at the behest of a breed association. Acroterion (talk) 13:22, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is a reviewed good article, fully referenced - you must discuss substantial changes here first, and you must provide references, in published literature. I am headed to work for the day. Please take the time to  outline your concerns and sources on this talkpage.  Acroterion (talk) 13:29, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

text: This edit has several issues. In the second pagraph, the summary "Their coats come mostly in solid colours" was replaced by a list of eight or nine different colour variations. The lead section should summarise the content of the article, not provide all the details - and remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, which means that every single detail should not be mentioned in any case. As for the new paragraph, I'm sorry, but it is not in fact supported by the source. The source doesn't mention anything about any confusion, or about people calling cocker spaniels or springer spaniels "field spaniel" inappropriately. --bonadea contributions talk 13:51, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

text: I agree it should be in the body, but with only enough energy to do a  bit a day, I have had to put it in the top for now to stop it getting deleted mid way!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kriswarry (talk • contribs) 14:06, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm sorry you are having health problems but the most recent edit as it stands really cannot remain in the article lead at the moment. It does not make sense. As I suggested above, why not work in a sandbox where you can go at your own pace? PS: Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~ SagaciousPhil - Chat 14:14, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: But the original header says it was a show dog originally which is incorrect, the colour stuff is also incorrect, in fact most of the damn header is incorrect. I have now linked it also to the wiki page for cocker spaniels to confirm this change. I cant add conflicting stuff down in the page and leave the header completely incorrectly contradicting it. Kriswarry (talk) 14:19, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please slow down and practice some edits in your sandbox as already suggested. The series of edits you have just made are not acceptable for several reasons: they are not grammatical, incorrectly formatted, Wikipedia cannot be used as a source (and if you have copied text from another article, attribution must be given - see WP:CWW. SagaciousPhil - Chat 14:34, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

text: , please slow down. Text must not be copied from external sources, it is a copyright violation. As indicated above, the text you added (shown in green above) was directly copied from the Kennel Club website which clearly has a copyright notice at the bottom of every page on its website. I can see that  is around at the moment, she is an expert in copyright and may need to look at removing it. You are also edit warring. SagaciousPhil - Chat 15:16, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

text: @Kriswarry: Please slow down and work in your sandbox. Everybody's trying to help you stay within the guardrails of Wikipedia policy, which among other things prohibit copying text from other websites which do not share Wikipedia's copyleft scheme - all Wikipedia content must be freely redistributable and may not originate in non-free sources. Fair use is severely restricted on Wikipedia. This is for specific legal reasons and is not subject to negotiation. There are ways to donate text, but it's simpler to rewrite than to do that paperwork. Nor may you copy text from one part of Wikipedia to another without clear attribution, or use Wikipedia itself as a source for other Wikipedia content.  Please assume good faith - everybody who's interacted with you has done so, please reciprocate. Please remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not an extension of or free webhost for any breed society. The article may certainly be improved, but it is vital that you use this talkpage to make clear, specific suggestions for improvement and correction, and that you work within Wikipedia's referencing policy and manual of style. Freely editable does not mean that anything goes, and all contributions may be more or less edited or removed - if you've worked with an editor in real life you know what to expect. Acroterion (talk) 17:25, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I would also point out that it has to be acceptable in all major jurisdictions. Citing UK law here isn't particularly relevant. It's usually better to reword and rephrase. Stui (talk) 10:50, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Field Spaniel Society 

message: has left the following message on my talk page:
tHE FIELD SPANIEL PAGE NOW HAS THE REFEFRENCES ON IT, THEREFOE IT IS NOT SUBSTANSIATED, SO WHY ARE YOU STILL DELETING IT?   — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kriswarry (talk • contribs) 13:44, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree it should be in the body, but with only enough energy to do a  bit a day, I have had to put it in the top for now to stop it getting deleted mid way!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kriswarry (talk • contribs) 14:06, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'm sorry you are having health problems but the most recent edit as it stands really cannot remain in the article lead at the moment. It does not make sense. As I suggested above, why not work in a sandbox where you can go at your own pace? PS: Please sign your posts on talk pages by using four tildes like this: ~~~~ SagaciousPhil - Chat 14:14, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: But the original header says it was a show dog originally which is incorrect, the colour stuff is also incorrect, in fact most of the damn header is incorrect. I have now linked it also to the wiki page for cocker spaniels to confirm this change. I cant add conflicting stuff down in the page and leave the header completely incorrectly contradicting it. Kriswarry (talk) 14:19, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Please slow down and practice some edits in your sandbox as already suggested. The series of edits you have just made are not acceptable for several reasons: they are not grammatical, incorrectly formatted, Wikipedia cannot be used as a source (and if you have copied text from another article, attribution must be given - see WP:CWW. SagaciousPhil - Chat 14:34, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

text: , please slow down. Text must not be copied from external sources, it is a copyright violation. As indicated above, the text you added (shown in green above) was directly copied from the Kennel Club website which clearly has a copyright notice at the bottom of every page on its website. I can see that  is around at the moment, she is an expert in copyright and may need to look at removing it. You are also edit warring. SagaciousPhil - Chat 15:16, 5 December 2017 (UTC)

text: @Kriswarry: Please slow down and work in your sandbox. Everybody's trying to help you stay within the guardrails of Wikipedia policy, which among other things prohibit copying text from other websites which do not share Wikipedia's copyleft scheme - all Wikipedia content must be freely redistributable and may not originate in non-free sources. Fair use is severely restricted on Wikipedia. This is for specific legal reasons and is not subject to negotiation. There are ways to donate text, but it's simpler to rewrite than to do that paperwork. Nor may you copy text from one part of Wikipedia to another without clear attribution, or use Wikipedia itself as a source for other Wikipedia content.  Please assume good faith - everybody who's interacted with you has done so, please reciprocate. Please remember that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and not an extension of or free webhost for any breed society. The article may certainly be improved, but it is vital that you use this talkpage to make clear, specific suggestions for improvement and correction, and that you work within Wikipedia's referencing policy and manual of style. Freely editable does not mean that anything goes, and all contributions may be more or less edited or removed - if you've worked with an editor in real life you know what to expect. Acroterion (talk) 17:25, 5 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I would also point out that it has to be acceptable in all major jurisdictions. Citing UK law here isn't particularly relevant. It's usually better to reword and rephrase. Stui (talk) 10:50, 6 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Copy of message left on my talk page

message: Traumnovelle (talk) 22:13, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Article Reassessment