Wikipedia talk:Requests for checkuser/Case/Skatewalk

message: : I removed a duplication of the RFCU case page that was on this page, but have retained additional comments. MSJapan 01:55, 15 August 2007 (UTC)

message: * My Ip address 67.87.48.156 (I have no objections of listing or even listing my home address, any of you are welcome guests at my home anytime. I am not a hateful shaky charachter that fears showing their IP!) I am just offended because it was listed as a sock puppet! just because I posted by mistake (notice how I never post more than once, cause I realize I am signed out)
* Alameer as I stated before is a person that I know and we share interests in protecting an article. check his IP its not mine!
* Temoniprince was created by a desperate Elias? to discredit me?!
* Also can you please check both 66.171.223.109 and 75.63.64.115 because Elias is editing Arab and reverting them then accusing me of  claiming Akkadians are Arab. Ironically enough he changed the title to:
Akkadians, Assyrians, Babylonians, and other Ancient Arabs implying that all those are Arabs!
I simply ignored the subject, because I know Elias love for edit wars.
* User:EliasAlucard and his very intimate editing friend User:Dbachmann both broke RR3 rule in  and 
* The links he provided, have other users such as Heja helweda and Karnet! How is that even relevant to me.  User:Heja helweda later left me a a thank you message for fixing the article. 
* Finally and most important In the same links he provided as evidence against me he breaks the 3RR rule! along with his very close editing partner that will ironically enough will appear in the links he provided!>>>>User:Dbachmann. Now I am not investigator but I know things when I smell them!
**Take a look at my talk page and his talk page. SO far atleast 10 users are mindboggled by Elias relentless Vadalizing of the Ancient Arabia article. (below you can read more on the Elias reasons behind vandalizing the article and launching personal attacks against me and whoever approves the article!) 
I am pretty sure everyone will catch on to the Elias hate agenda--Skatewalk 18:52, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bogus Shameless/desperate claims by Elias 

message: * The Akkadians lived in Arabia before they entered Mesopotamia. (even Elias himself knows that and admited to it)
below are links to neutral non Arab websites. The Akkadians Arabian origin, The Akkadians migration from ArabiaFirst result search for Akkadians
* The article is related to the ancient Arabs, not modern Arabs. 
* The article mentions the (Akkadians only) as an ancient Arab tribe before entering Mesopotamia, the rest of the Mesopotamian tribes were not considered Arab. That still didnt work well for Elias!
* Elias simply made it clear that the Akkadians should not be mentioned in Ancient Arabia history just because they were not modern Arabs! although the Eastern branch of Semitic is extinct in the North and the only related languages are still spoken in Arabia Eastern South Semitic
* I also added a section that clearly states that modern Christian Assyrians, Arameans are not Arabs.
* Elias is currently Vandalizing another article I created Ancient Arabia (because he protected Ancient Arabs after merging it to PreIslamic Arabia). Although PreIslamic Arabia (refers to 'asr Aljahiliya) and Ancient Arabia starts from the earliest known civilizations in Arabia. And he deleted the Saudi Wiki project template(?)
Quoting Elias:
they lived on Arabia that makes them an ancient tribe of Arabia! — It wasn't called Arabia at that time, and they did not live with any Arab people, because they were the first Semitic people. Arabs didn't exist at the same time as the Akkadians. Why should I not mention them! they are a very important group that lived in Arabia! — At some point in time, the people that are now Germans and Japanese, probably also had ancestors who lived in Arabia. It doesn't make them Arabs. — EliasAlucard|Talk 03:02 14 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
So because Arabia wasnt called ARabia back then, we cant have a istory article on Ancient Arabia! Using his rule, we will ave to Delete every anciet article in Wikipedia including Egypt because it wasnt callled Egypt back then!
The ancient Akkadians lived in Arabia, spoke Eastern Semitic. Modern Assyrians speak West Semitic, Eastern Semitic only exists in South Arabia small groups Yemen and Oman today.
*At worse case scenario, Even if the Akkadians spoke an IndoEuropean language, does that exlude them from the history of ancient Arabia! 
I will appeciate your help to protect the Ancient Arabia and [[Ancient Arabs articles both are being force-merged by Elias to the smaller Pre-Islamic Arabia article.
A look at Elias history and his sock puppet User:Dbachmann and you will se the organized extremist Assyrianist edits. He will not acept any evidence even if Sargon himself came to beg him to keep the article about his original homeland in Arabia, he will call Sargon an Arabist!
And for the record look at my edits. I never delete any work, and my edits in the Arab article had teh ARab population at 200Millions instead of 350million because I disagree with imposing Arab identity on non Arabs. And ancient Arabia doesnt have anything to do with modern political Arabism!--Skatewalk 13:42, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all, this source, makes it very clear that they aren't Arabs. It says, very clearly, that the Akkadians were a Semitic people living originally on what is now known as the Arabian peninsula. This is more like wishful thinking from Skatewalk that the Akkadians were Arabs. Second of all, he hasn't used academic sources (that source is apparently published by Washington State University, but it's just an essay or something, not exactly rock solid content). And really, User:Dbachmann isn't my sockpuppet. I dislike most of his edits, though we can agree sometimes, but that's very rare. Yes, all Semitic peoples probably have a common origin, since they after all, all speak Semitic languages. Doesn't make the Akkadians into Arabs, and they sure as hell didn't call themselves Arabs. They were Proto-Semites, just leave it at that. And no original research please. — EliasAlucard|Talk 16:06 14 Aug, 2007 (UTC)
* First of all it doesn't matter what race or group the Akkadians were they are still a part of Ancient Arabia history! Just like non Italians are part of Ancient Italy history.
* I am not really going to argue who the Akkadians were(because you already proved how closeminded you are in all your arguments with Arameans in other articles). One website said Semitic people living in Arabia, it didnt say non Arabs, the other websites said ancient Arab people and the map clearly puts them in East Arabia!. However, thats not the problem now. The problem is that you are denying the history of ancient Arabia.
* It is simple if they existed in Arabia, they should be listed in the ancient Arabia history.--Skatewalk 21:40, 14 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Akkadians should be included in the Ancient Arabia article.