Talk:Bessarabia

message: If you add information about Jewish comunity, you should add comparable pieces of information about 
Moldavians(Romanians), Ukrainians, Bulgarians, Germans, Gagauz and Russians. 
Otherewise the article looks unbalanced in contradiction to the NPOV policy. 
Note that the majority in Bessarabia are Moldavians(Romanians).
:::::Removal of information is inadmissible. The problem of balance is related to opinions, not to facts. You are free to add info about Gagauz. Mikkalai 19:38, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: A reasonable idea, but you should have done it yourself instead of deletion. Mikkalai 19:38, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)

text: Restoring your deletion. Mikkalai 19:38, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK, I made it a separate article and cross-linked the pages. --AndriyK 20:56, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jewish community 

message: there are 3(+1) articles about same region. perhaps the history of Bessarabia should begin in 1812, anything before that date should be linked to Moldavia, anything after 1918 should be linked to Romania, anything about a jewish Pogrom should link to the Pogrom article, anything about "Anything Remarcable, Requiring a Separate Dedicated Article", should be linked to an "Article on Important Things that Deserve Writing About Them and Hapened in Bessarabia" -- Criztu 20:08, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Bessarabia is not identical to Moldavia or SSR Moldoveneasca. Southen and Nothen Bessarabia belong to the Ukraine. --Andriy 20:31, 3 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Moldavia]], [[Bessarabia]], [[SSR Moldoveneasca]] and [[Moldova]] 

message: Please, remove the references to "Burebista's state" from this and other pages. Professional historians have shown that there is no reason to call it anything other than "a polity" (and a very loose one for that). Otherwise, you include a thesis which has as its only "merit" the fact that Ceauşeuscu endorsed it. BTW: it is highly unlikely that Bessarabia was ever included in a Dacian construction. Dahn 15:01, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Burebista did conquer the Celtic town of Aliobrix (which was on the left bank of the Danube, but while theoretically in Bessarabia, it had more connections with Dobruja, where there were many other Celtic towns) and the Greek colony Tyras (on the Dniester). It seems that we don't know much about what happened inland, but it is certain that it was sparsely populated. There were a few Dacian tribes/settlements that lived in Bessarabia (see this). bogdan | Talk 15:46, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Burebista 

message: # The original inhabitants were Cimmerians, and after them came Scythians. 
# During the early centuries of the Christian Era, Bessarabia, was invaded by many successive races. 
# In the 2nd century AD, it was occupied by the Getae, a non-Thracian tribe, whom the Roman emperor Trajanus conquered in 106 AD; he then incorporated the region in the province of Dacia. 
# In the 3rd century, the Goths, a Germanic tribe, poured into this quarter of the empire, and in the 5th century it was overrun one after the other by the Huns, the Avars and the Bulgarians. 
# Then, in the 7th century, followed the Bessians, a Thracian tribe, who gave their name to the region.
# Finally, in the 9th century, followed the Ugrians, that is to say, the ancestors of the present Magyars of Hungary, the country being then known as Atel-kuzu. 
Links
www.1911encyclopedia.org
--IonnKorr 18:30, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's true, only that Basarab doesn't come from "Bessi" it is a Cuman or Pecheneg name, see Basarab#Name_and_origins and basically means "father ruler". The "Bessi" and "Bess Arabia" theories are pretty ridiculous.  -- AdrianTM 19:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology of Bessarabia 

message: This part of Bessarabia history oddly omits the period of Romanian ownership and ends with September 1940 - six years before the end of WWII. Strange. Illythr 19:16, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What happens is that many Wikipedians are not super-experts in the field, and might not have known or found enough about the subject.  Please feel free to add information if you know it.--AAAAA 12:01, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

text: If anybody want to translate it, the German WP covers the time::de:Bessarabien#Rumänische Zwischenkriegszeit nach 1918. My grandmother lived there at that time, but I don't think she knows anything that might be relevant here.—Wikipeditor 02:34, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Translation mostly finished, maybe a bit more cleanup...  --Illythr 18:21, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  World War II 

message: The following paragraph: "A Provisional Workers' & Peasants' Government of Bessarabia was founded on May 5, 1919, in exile at Odessa, by the Bolsheviks. On May 11, 1919, the Bessarabian Soviet Socialist Republic was proclaimed as an autonomous part of Russian SFSR, but was abolished by the military forces of Poland and France in September 1919 (see Polish-Soviet War).", is in fact copied from article Bessarabian Soviet Socialist Republic (remember: Wikipedia is not a reliable source), which was proposed for deletion. I believe this Bessarabian SSR of 1919 was not a real republic, but a dream or desire of some Soviet activists, especially if we see that it was proclaimed outside Bessarabia. Please join the deletion discussion and share your thoughts, if article will be deleted we will delete the paragraph also from this article.--MariusM 13:37, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Bessarabian SSR

message: I have taken out the following sentence:
These peoples came mostly as small, strong armies of mounted warriors, and did not leave notable traces.
It was placed after the arrival of the Slavs. Slavs were never mounted warriors. I am not sure about the 'notable traces' but the first part of the sentence should be attributed to Avars and Bulgars, though they moved in larger numbers.
Also, did that Thracian tribe actually arrive after Huns, Avars, Bulgars and Slavs? Seems like a factological mistake to me. As far as I am concerned Thracians were extinct by then as a Thracian entity. They were assimlilated by other groups or moved to the mountains and merged with other mounteneers. To speak of a Htracian tribe around that time seems a bit odd. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kaloyan* (talk • contribs) 12:03, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's a fabrication to claim that "Bessarabia" comes from "Bessi" -- AdrianTM 14:59, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slavs after the Bulgars 

message: Thanks to Andrei nacu for good job about clarifying the map in the Geography section. :Dc76 15:10, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Others

message: Looking through the table on the bottom of the article (1930 census) i noticed there is no Chisinau county? It didnt existed or it was simply skiped from the table? Luka Jačov (talk) 20:16, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was called Lăpuşna county. Dc76\talk 00:35, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Took awhile to answer that one, eh? Should've waited 4 more days, though... --Illythr (talk) 00:47, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chisinau county? 

message: In the Ancient Times section is this sentence;  "In 270, the Roman authorities began to withdraw their forces south of the Danube, due to the invading Goths and Carps. The Goths, a Germanic tribe, poured into the Roman Empire through the southern part of Bessarabia (Budjak), which due to its geographic position and characteristics (mainly steppe), was swept by various nomadic tribes. From the 5th century it was overrun in turn by the Huns, the Avars, and the Bulgars."
You might well note that there exists a hyper-link to the word "Carps"!  Entering the H-L only gives the reader a report about the fish with the same name, while I am sure the author, via the use of the word "Carps" actually intended to provide the reader a connection to another group of people who were invaders, and not fish!  So, I would suggest that someone (the original author?) find another way to make the association, IE, was there a group of people known anywhere as "The Carps?", and if so, by what name or distinction are they (if they really did exist) known to history today?  Other wise the entire hyper-link is worthless!69.92.23.64 (talk) 15:14, 2 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: it's a mistaken pronunciation. the carps are serbs. bessarabia means exactly white serbia that is later found in poland. sorbs and albans, previously found in caucasus, and sarbans, found in avghanistan.79.126.194.121 (talk) 17:24, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ancient Times 

message: Does anybody here know the correct pronunciation of Bessarabia? On which syllable is the accent? I think proper IPA notation would be a good thing to have in the article. --Tea with toast (talk) 04:40, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: good question!Prometeu (talk) 09:55, 7 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  The accent is on the penultimate syllable, same as with Moldavia. --Illythr (talk) 22:25, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  pronunciation 

message: Ladies and gentlemen, it starts rather abruptly with modern history. Which makes no sense for a region heavily populated since the Ice Age. I suggest moving the maximum of history downwards, instead concentrating on geography, demographics, economy and transport: borders, cities, routes. Thank you, Ukrained2012 (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 01:03, 3 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: No where on the planet was heavily populated during or immediately after the Ice Age. 50.111.26.175 (talk) 14:35, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro 

message: Crimea seceded half a year ago.
-G  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.31.57.247 (talk) 23:15, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Ukraine map is out of date

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: " In Antiquity the region was inhabited by Thracians ... " - pardon me?  I don't care if the source states this or not, that's just crazy talk. Thracians did not range that far north. It's possible some Thracian artifacts have been found here (due to trade), but this statement should go.  I didn't remove it (yet) hoping to get some support for its removal and avoid any nationalist pride retaliation/edit warring. Thanks. 50.111.26.175 (talk) 14:34, 24 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  excuse me? 

message: A text that does not meet the Wikipedia editing standards cannot remain unchanged for too long. Please, review WP:NPOV and WP:PLOT. Thank you. (Rgvis (talk) 17:00, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: In case you didn’t notice, the source is from 2002, while the Soviet Union ceased to exist in 1991. You are free to bring other reliable sources contradicting it and then readers can decide for themselves whether it is a particular POV or not. Good luck with the research!Anonimu (talk) 19:56, 25 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no requirement whatsoever to provide info regarding source author or translation of text, the readers and editors have all details required to verify the source. The burden is on you to prove the source is unreliable. The content is fully sourced to a reliable, is concise and not unnecesarily detailed, providing just an overview of the region’s economy during the first half of the 20th century. Just because the rest of the article is such in a bad state, it doesn’t mean a sectiin shouldn’t be developed. If you continue to deface the article I will be forced to report you for vandalism. Thanks. Anonimu (talk) 12:35, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

text: Please provide any indication that the works are not reliable. The burden is on the one making the accusation, otherwise anyone would remove all refs whose author does not have yet an en.WP page, effectively removing 80% of wikipedia sourcing. Please indicate what you expect from a “non-marginal” work, as you have been at the moment unable to provide any other source, “marginal” or else, that contradicts any of the sourced info I have added.Anonimu (talk) 09:24, 28 April 2020 (UTC)

text: In this subsection, that does not comply with Wikipedia's policies, it is preferable to make all the necessary corrections (from your own added content) by yourself (including the excess of the unnecessary content); you are solely responsible for your own added content. Otherwise, over time, all these issues will be corrected (by other editors), but it will be a lengthy process, during which the tags will have to remain (WP:TAGGING). Thank you. (Rgvis (talk) 08:32, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soviet historiography POV