Talk:County Donegal

message: Is the preferred Irish version of the county's name Dún na nGall?  I know in my (all-Irish) primary school we learned that the name was Tír Chonaill, even though the English name obviously originated as Dún na nGall.  Maybe I'm out of date, as I note that Donegal County Council use Comhairle Chontae Dhún na nGall  --Ryano 12:41, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: My advice recently was that the spelling used in Irish for counties for the new style tables be that as specified in Placenames (Provinces and Counties) Order 2003 as this is the legal definition of the Irish name and takes precidence over other variations. It uses Donegal/County Donegal Dún na nGall/Contae Dhún na nGall respectively. Tír Chonaill would appear to originate from County Tyrconnel, and could be due an article in itself if sufficent material can be found. Djegan 19:10, 4 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Tir Conaill, as traditionally understood, strictly speaking does not include Inishowen. Tir Conaill is certainly an older name, and in more common use by far in spoken Irish; I imagine that the use of Donegal for the area, rather than just for the town, follows the official establishment of the county. However, there are also plenty of cases of Dun na nGall being used in real spoken Irish; one that immediately comes to mind is the song 'Gleanntain Ghlasa Ghaoth Dobhair", which includes the lines "slan slan go foill le Dun na nGall, an contae glas gan smal." Palmiro | Talk 23:53, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dún na nGall / Tír Chonaill 

message: Does anyone agree that the 'Notable natives' section of this article is too long and too messy?? I think so, and I'll clean it up next week. So leave a comment if you feel strongly about this.
--MaxPride (talk) 13:09, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just refined the list to those who are actually 'famous' natives and would be known outside the county, and indeed removing some of thosw who would not be known in the county itself. Obviously if you have plans for devloping it better work away - just did it so that in the short run it didn't account for about 1/3 of the entire atricle! Will try to ensure that all those removed are part of the category though. - Donegal92 (talk) 15:06, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Good edits, Donegal92.  I readded Tommy Tiernan and Brian McEnifff, as it seems to me both are fairly well known outside the county.   I'm not from Donegal, but I'm well aware of both. Tameamseo (talk) 18:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry - the list was so long I didn't see them! - Donegal92 (talk) 22:35, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable people

message: The intro of this article is a bit long and filled with some 'Orange' statements w/o citation. Needs a shave! 89.100.20.244 (talk) 19:07, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you, but as the 26-county republic is officially called "Ireland" (despite the fact it's clearly not), we have to pipelink "Ireland" to the Republic of Ireland article (like so: Ireland). That way we respect the official and, some would argue common, name of the state but link it to the appropriate page. Something you just undid. JonChappleTalk 09:30, 13 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Introduction

message: I would suggest that this 'Donegal Irish has a strong influence on Irish speakers across Ulster, who find themselves speaking a dialect noticeably different from the Irish most commonly spoken and understood in Dublin.' be changed for a number of very good reasons.
1) All modern Irish dialects are different to each other, although all are equally Irish and equally understood in other Irish speaking areas.
2) The reference to Dublin is meaningless, Irish is not 'commonly spoken and understood in Dublin'. There is no native Irish dialect in the Dublin area and any Irish in Dublin is either learnt or has been brought in by speakers from Irish speaking areas.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by EoinBach (talk • contribs) 01:13, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: And I would suggest you read the welcome messages I have left on several of your IPs and learn WP:VER WP:RS and both WP:MOS and WP:IMOS. Murry1975 (talk) 20:47, 20 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Culture and heritage

message: The transcription had the 1st syllable as dunn rather than don in the English pronunciation. I can only confirm the later. Anyone know differently? kwami (talk) 08:38, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  pronunciation 

message: "This apparent isolationhttp://www.sinnfeingeneralelection.com/en/topic/4 has led to Donegal people and their customs being considered distincthttp://www.donegal.ie/library/aboutdonegal/aboutdon.htm from the rest of the island and has been used to market the county with the slogan Up here it's different. Ireland Northwest."
A few problems here. Firstly the reference mark left to validate the "isolation" refers to the North West REGION. The second reference with the slogan Up here it's different, is actualy called Ireland North West! There seems to be a real political motivation to the user insisting on stating Donegal is isolated from the STATE as opposed to the island, when a) the quotes beg to differ! and b) an area reknowned for traditional Irish music, Gaelic Games and Irish Taoisigh in the Nine Year War seems to be as isolated culturally and socially from say, Belfast as the rest of the state! Underlying political rhetoric here maybe...
I hardly think this is 'political rhetoric', to be fair. County Donegal is different from the rest of the Republic of Ireland because it is so much an Ulster county. It has huge connections with neighbouring Northern Ireland, especially Derry and Strabane.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.78.245.233 (talk) 01:44, 8 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: County Donegal is attached to several other counties and therefore cannot be isolated from the rest of the island any more than most of the counties. However it is isolated from the rest of the state due to only being connected along a very small area of its border. Canterbury Tail talk 19:01, 17 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Introduction

message: An editor edited out this version of the name after I re-entered it yesterday in the infobox after another editor re-entered it in the article after it was removed with consensus in an edit war in September. This has been discussed here before , the old version of Tír Chonaill was different than Donegal but so too were most counties back then to what we have now. If you translate "Tír Chonaill" using google translator you get "Donegal" []. Also in my Collins Irish-English dictionary  page 587 Tír Chonaill nf Donegal , and on page 79 Donegal n Dún m na nGall, Tír f Chonaill. Murry1975 (talk) 13:27, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tír Chonaill 

message: The alphabetical list is too long and boring. It could all be neatly clipped into the article List of Donegal people. The "main" re-direct would suffice for all but a handful of the truly notable. Laurel Lodged (talk) 23:05, 9 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Donegal people 

message: Which country?Xx236 (talk) 11:53, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  from other parts of the country 

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message: This looks like a B to my untrained eyes. Any opinions? Sarah777 (talk) 13:52, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Article class

message: The current pronunciation given is "/ˌdʌnɪˈɡɔːl, ˌdɒn-/ DUN-ig-AWL, DON-" (to rhyme with Senegal) which I believe is incorrect, as an Irish person, and it doesn’t match the logainm (state-sponsored body) source which I added a while back. I believe it should be changed back to /ˌdʌniˈɡɔːl, ˌdɒn-/ DUN-ee-GAWL, DON-. Also, is there a source for the /ˌdɒn-/ pronunciation?, I feel like it’s probably just a spelling pronunciation. 2A01:B340:86:DA90:8823:BBBA:5C34:3515 (talk) 17:01, 15 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation (2023)