Talk:One-child policy

message: The Huis are exempted from this policy. This could be incorporated into the article by the main contributors.
* http://books.google.com.bh/books?id=pA_MP4Q11qgC&pg=PA123&dq=Hui+one+child&hl=en&sa=X&ei=lYQBT62DGMfU8gORsoG4AQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Hui%20one%20child&f=false
* http://books.google.com.bh/books?id=gwjeKt7yMogC&pg=PA139&dq=Hui+one+child&hl=en&sa=X&ei=lYQBT62DGMfU8gORsoG4AQ&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Hui%20one%20child&f=false
Joyson Prabhu Holla at me!  10:26, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: All ethnic minorities were exempt.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:10, 15 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hui people 

message: The Chinese characters on the poster in the image with the caption "Chinese One-Child Policy propaganda from 1982" say "for the happiness of your family, please pay attention to traffic safety". It doesn't say anything about the One-Child Policy or family planning.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 5.148.6.34 (talk) 15:14, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Propaganda poster 

message: Hello, it would be nice to have some more info on forced sterilizations. These old slogans (now getting phased out) corroborate roumors that in some cases tubes used to be (or perhaps still are?) forcibly tied immediately after women give birth, in the labour room? 220.246.134.47 (talk) 02:05, 6 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forced sterilizations 

message: Hello, I feel that the graph of population growth vs. year does not support the notion of 'strong growth in spite of the one-child poliy'. the growth is clearly (albeit slightly) sub-linear whereas an exponential rate were to be expected without birth-control measures - however, the actual reason might be a decreasing birth rate due to increasing wealth outsizing any effect of population control measures. what do other people think ? does anybody have references addressing the separation of said factors ?  comment added by Q-lio (talk)  12:16, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree it's not really strong growth; I've removed the "strong" qualifier to make it more reasonable. Since the fertility rate has been below replacement since the 1990's, all the growth since then comes from the demographic momentum, which only a "zero-child policy" could have prevented. --Roentgenium111 (talk) 19:32, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Growth rate plot / misleading caption 

message: Equitable fines based on total nett asset. A flat 10,000 yuan fine would be painful to a lower class earner, but to Zhang Yimou, that would be nothing. Use a percentage total nett asset based fine instead, probably 30% of net asset, since overpopulation could destroy China? So if Zhang is worth 100 million, the fine should be 33.3 million. For that lower earner say for example, if worth 50,000 in totality, the fine should be 16,666 yuan instead - also 30%. The fine of 1.23 million yuan is nothing to the USD$70,000,000 US Dollars that Zhang Yimou has which equals 423.6 MILLION Yuan and is a mere 0.25% of Zhang's entire wealth. Just totally unfair as opposed to the poor. Using a percetiage based fine would be equitable.
Reference Link :
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/entertainment/2013-12/10/c_132956022.htm  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:E68:4000:15:1C39:8F3B:8AEE:CB75 (talk) 22:56, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zhang Yimou Case and Suggested Equitable Fining Paradigm 

message: Family planning among Hui Muslims in China. Many Hui Muslims voluntarily limit themselves to one child.
http://ilookchina.net/2010/11/05/exemptions-in-chinas-one-child-policy/
Do not use this blog directly as a soure, but it contains references to reliable sources itself.
http://ningxiaunveiled.wordpress.com/family-planning/
20:00, 4 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hui people Family Planning 

message: Can't quite trace the evolution of the policy. Did Mao come round to seeing the drawbacks to population maximizing? Or were some of his ministers planning to start the new policy as soon as he died? Valetude (talk) 09:42, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The article says, "The one child policy had been planned as early as 1977 [i.e. after Mao's death], although it was not mandated nationwide until 1979." But Mao himself seems to have supported the previous voluntary two-child policy (from 1970).--Roentgenium111 (talk) 17:10, 2 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins not clear 

message: I'd like to suggest the inclusion of a population pyramid of China and perhaps one of India as well, for comparison.
No other single graph can show whether a one-child policy would be effective. For example, the current "population growth" graph is misleading in that the full effect of lower birth rates can only be seen after enough of the older generation have passed away. Very low growth rates can imply negative population growth in the long run regardless of continued population increases in the short run.
- Comparing the size of the "added" (new born) age groups with the oldest (passing away) age groups determines population growth.
- Comparing the size of the newest added (new born) age groups with the age group directly above (previous new born) to determine birth rates.
http://www.prb.org/images12/china-india-population.gif
http://lewishistoricalsociety.com/pictures/albums/userpics/1148055065.gif  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.240.151.165 (talk) 11:42, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Totally agreed. There used to be a pop. pyramid in the article (until at least 2012), someone seems to have removed it without discussion. --Roentgenium111 (talk) 13:31, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population pyramid 

message: I changed the section heading Alleged birth reduction to Overstatement of effect on birth reduction. This change was reverted with the explanation that "Alleged is more accurate and "overstatement" is opinionated". It also said 'good faith edits', I'm not sure if this means that it was reverted in good faith, or that I had changed it in bad faith.
Anyway, the section is about how Zhai Zhenwu's  estimation of 400 million births prevented is disputed by Wang Feng, who estimates the figure at 200 million; i.e. Wang is accusing Zhai of overestimating/overstating the one-child policy's effect on population growth. This means that my word choice, overstated is actually accurate, and nothing to do with my personal opinion. However, Alleged birth reduction implies that the assertion that there has been an effect on birth reduction at all is in dispute, when in fact both Wang and Zhai agree that the policy has had an affect on birth reduction, the effect is not 'alleged', it is only the scale of that effect that is in dispute vis. 200 million versus 400 million; either way it has had a pretty big impact according to the evidence presented in the section; nothing in this section suggests that there has been zero impact, therefore alleged is inaccurate word choice, although I wouldn't say it's opinionated... I'm not sure what opinion it would indicate, or about what...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by InternationalistChap (talk • contribs) 22:52, 29 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing section heading from "Alleged birth reduction" 

message: The Sex-based birth rate disparity subsection in the effects section was extremely long and only two paragraphs of it touched on the one-child policy, and even those did so only tangentially. I have deleted all but those two paragraphs. All of the deleted info is covered in more detail in the 'Missing women of Asia' article, which is also linked at the top of the sub-section. I think it is pretty obvious that it was off-topic, but seeing as it was such a significant amount of text that was deleted (owing to the unwieldy, unnecessary length of the section itself), I thought I'd start a new section here for anyone who thinks it should be reinstated to give their reasons. InternationalistChap (talk) 04:17, 30 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletions in the 'Sex-based birth rate disparity' Sub-section 

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message: We probably need to reword the entire first graf, or rethink the approach to the article. The "one child policy" is no more, but the "family planning policy" still is, with a limit of two children. So we need to draw that distinction. Though this article is indeed titled the "one child policy," so we may need to think about a renaming as well? -- Fuzheado | Talk 15:27, 29 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This article title needs to say as is, maybe a new article could be created for Family planning in China. --Krishna Pagadala (talk) 04:12, 1 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The entire introduction (the bit before the table of contents) is garbage. It says it started being phased out in 2015, then later says the two-child policy will only take effect after being ratified in 2016. There is also a lot of repetition, redundancy, and the like.211.23.25.61 (talk) 07:02, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I would support a move to "Family Planning in China" (or something similar), with redirects from one-child policy and two-child policy. —Zujine|talk 05:18, 27 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead graf needs editing 

message: Congratulations, If it's a article about the family planning policy of PRC, the title is a joke now. One-child policy is included in the family planning policy, but it doesn't mean One-child policy is equal to the family planning policy. Because of the obstinate idea, I don't know how to fix the links of wikidata which title mean "One-child policy" but a subject of the family planning policy of PRC. I made a new item to save the subject about the family planning policy of PRC. And I hope someone will fix the title. --Cwek (talk) 13:50, 28 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Cwek, Do you recommend changing the name of the article to something like Family planning in China, and making One-child policy a subsection?  Is there a different name for the article that you recommend? I can agree with changing the name because China now has a two-child policy, making the current name outdated for a general topic on Chinese family planning. Wikipedia:Moving_a_page#Reasons_for_moving_a_page. Waters.Justin (talk) 02:16, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Waters.Justin: Yes,I agree to move the name of this article. And the problem isn't only the name. Now the introduction means that One-child policy is equal to the family planning policy of PRC, but the truth is the core of PRC's family planning policy was One-child policy. This article needs to rewrite to express that the family planning policy of PRC isn't only One-child policy or isn't equal to One-child policy. --Cwek (talk) 03:15, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

text: Thank is useless.It sees that It have no any change to rewrite this subject. I hope that One-child policy is a subproject article of same level like Two-child_policy, And we write a new article for Family planning in People's Republic of China as subproject article of a government policy. --Cwek (talk) 07:25, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

text: Cwek, User:Waters.Justin While not completely understanding the discussion, I think I disagree with splitting into several pages. The main article should be One-child policy, as this is by far the most widely used term, and it covers both Two-child policy and family planning policy. I have suggested in a separate section below to merge family planning policy with One-child policy. I also suggest merging Two-child policy with One-child policy, as the "two-child policy" isn't a new policy, but an amendment to the old "one-child policy", allowing couples to have two children. As such, there are no "two-child policy". Johannesxie (talk) 15:03, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The slapping face of the subject 

message: Here is the link if you want to start a new article. Some of the content on this article that is not about the One-child policy could be split and moved to the new article.   Waters.Justin (talk) 16:56, 2 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Cwek, User:Waters.Justin While not completely understanding the discussion, I think I disagree with splitting into several pages. The main article should be One-child policy, as this is by far the most widely used term, and it covers both Two-child policy and family planning policy. I have suggested in a separate section below to merge family planning policy with One-child policy. I also suggest merging Two-child policy with One-child policy, as the "two-child policy" isn't a new policy, but an amendment to the old "one-child policy", allowing couples to have two children. As such, there are no "two-child policy". Johannesxie (talk) 15:03, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
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message: Hi there!
I have discovered a problem with the language reference of this site. It appears that the One-child policy site does not have any link to a mandarin Chinese site. I tried to add this, but was rejected because the one-child policy (Q221719) site in mandarin Chinese has been merged with the site which in English is called family planning policy (Q21857372). So in English we have two different sites, whereas in mandarin Chinese, they only have one.
I suggest merging the site family planning policy with one-child policy to harmonise with what they have done on the Chinese site. The site family planning policy does not (in my opinion) contain any information that is not included in the one child policy. I see above in the discussions that the existance of family planning policy is because there is a distinction between one-child policy and the newly adopted two-child-policy. However, the most broadly used term is still "one-child-policy" and the term "two-child policy" is in my experience seldom used.
I hope to gain someone's attention here, as I am very new to editing here on wikipedia, so I'll need more experienced people to do the actual merging. 
-- // Johannesxie (talk) 14:57, 10 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The problem of "one-child policy" vs. "family planning policy" - suggesting merging! 

message: There is a 1982 photo of a street scene with a big poster somewhere in the middle of the article (Section 'Enforcement'). It shows a family of three crossing the road. The caption is misappropriating the purpose of the campaign for which the poster was used. It doesn't promote the One-child policy, it merely says "For the sake of happiness of your family, pay attention to road traffic safety!" (为你家庭幸福注意交通安全). Please update the caption accordingly, or remove the illustration. In the present state it's misleading.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.182.185.177 (talk) 10:18, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inadequate illustration 

message: At the end of the paragraph "Fertility reduction: Debates over the roles of policy vs. socio-economic change" in the section "Effects" the sentence
"Most of this deficit was due to sex-selective abortion as well as the 1.5 child stopping rule, which required rural parents to stop childbearing if their first born was a son." is backed up by Goodkind, Daniel (2015). However,  his article argues exactly the opposite in a paragraph entitled "3. Claims  that  China’s  1.5-child  loophole encourages sex selection defy logic. That loophole provides no greater reason to sex select than a two-child policy, and no policy has ever given parents more reason to hope that their first child would be a daughter." Thus, the second half of the sentence should be removed. --Twilliver Ongenbone (talk) 21:46, 7 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  1.5 child policy and gender disparity 

message: Is there any reason the article needs to make so many references to the CBC? Especially in the section on abolition, many of these seem unnecessary. A CBC article referencing a UN publication should surely be referenced back to the UN without the need to parrot the media report of such and this section in particular reads as though the CBC are academic experts on China's social policies.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.225.238.146 (talk) 16:59, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Referencing Canadian Broadcasting Corporation 

message: The graph labeled, "Population Growth Since 1980" could be updated and improved. Eemstewart (talk) 05:26, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update 

message: Hello! I am a student editor at Rice University. I find this topic really interesting and plan to edit this article to include more information about the gender biases leading to the policy's skewed sex ratio, as well as the lasting gender imbalances catalyzed by this policy. For more information, as well as a sense of the reference sources I plan to use, you can visit my user page. IJXB27 (talk) 01:09, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
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