Talk:Victoria Park, London

message: I would not have removed the Margaret Muller line if someone had taken the trouble to create an entry for her, not just create a dead link in the hope someone else would fill it in. It was a horrible murder, it likely needs expanding on - if someone wants to include it, do it, but don't just refer to an empty link.
And, yes, I'm an Inclusionist - just figured out where I'm coming from, so it hurts for me to delete something.
Tarquin Binary 02:52, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Margaret Muller 

message: Added this section after an email I received from a native Hackney resident of the time. Subterranea always pique my interest, so may go and take a look down Cassland Road, though doubt if there's anything to see now.
Tarquin Binary 19:34, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second World War 

message: It is a different slant on what I have believed about the disaster, it was recognise that a drunk threw an empty steel drum near the entrance of the Bethnal Green Underground causing the panic. I would go along with that theory. Yes, the first salvo that was ever fired by the rocket guns in the park, did cause a racket, and certainly put the wind up everyone in the locality. but they would not have been fired until the enemy aircraft were within range; people would have by then been in the shelter long before, not on their way into it at the time the disaster occured. concidering, the sirene alert would have been 10 or 20 minutes before the planes were over head.   
People used to go to the shelters to sleep whether the warning went or not. Besides the nesrest residence lived more that 5 to 10, possibly 20 minutes away from the Underground station. It wouldn't give them much time to get to the shelter after the first alert if they were not already down there. the panic happened as people were going down the steps from the pavement,and not at a slow pace either because the first in got the best posse to spend the night, out of the draugh,handy to the toilets etc.
:Hi, is that Ray? Your info, though valued, was rightly moved here by another user. Always best to make sure you have clicked on the 'discussion' tab at the screen top.
:Anyway, your point is well taken, and the MoD still maintains the 'steel drum' explanation. That's why I stressed that the issue is controversial, and I hope that the article comes down on neither side. However, I think the theory the BBC based their program on is interesting. At worst it sheds some light on the use of Victoria Park for AA. Until the BBC documentary, which I saw, came out in 2003, I wasn't even aware of the use of these 'Z-battery' rockets, so some interesting history came out of it. Incidentally, another theory, which seems not to be supported by any evidence, was that a large cache of UXBs had been exploded in the park.
:I can easily imagine many ways a panic could happen in a large crowd negotiating some narrow steps, and sometimes wonder why it hasn't happened more often. I've been jammed on to a narrow escalator in a modern rush-hour and felt a sort of Bethnal Green panic imagining what would happen if just one or two people slipped...
:Oh, have now changed wording to Some eyewitness accounts have led to the suggestion that...', as the old one suggested that all the evidence pointed that way.
:Tarquin Binary 18:00, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bethnal Green disaster 

message: A long section, but I think this bit of history is important. Gives me the excuse to add more pix, anyway :) I don't quite know how to link up internal page references with a [1] or whatever, and have to run off so no time to research it, but I've put a temporary attribution. Tarquin Binary 21:55, 1 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  People's Park... 

message: I'm trying to work out why this important, and early parkland is being pushed to the verges of the wikispace. No-one refers to Regent's Park as 'Regent's Park, West London'; so, why is this space being marginalised by tiny acreages elsewhere?
I know everywhere has a Victoria park, but this one is the template for them.
Yes, the article needs work! Kbthompson 11:21, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is at least one other Victoria Park in London- at Finchley Church End. It's perfectly reasonable to disambiguate between them. I don't think it marginalises Victoria Park in Hackney at all. Badgerpatrol 14:25, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Victoria Park, East London 

message: I haven't checked whether the passage quoted in the body of the accompanying article was misattributed to the UK intoxicants-trade periodical by the editor who added the passage, or someone later. In any case (besides fixing that) i am replacing the second-order citation
: William J. Fishman, East End 1888, Duckworth, 1988, 0-9541059-0-7. Page 267. [The author's Politics chapter, from which the Harpers quote is taken, reports on many significant political events in Victoria Park. Fishman himself goes on to say "[...]As a boy I went to such meetings there, albeit over forty years later, and the scenes so marvellously evoked by this narrator remained very much the same."]
(to which our editor accurately attributes the mistranscription "Rooney"), with
: J. H. Rosney, "Socialism in London", III, (in Googlebooks facsimile of Harper's New Monthly Magazine, vol. LXXVI), February, 1888,  pp. 412 & 414
But i leave to others to explore whether "J. H. Rosney" is one or both of J.-H. Rosny, authors of the novel Quest for Fire (which underlies the film of the same title); the dates are quite compatible. I have left out the Fishman comments, as i don't see why they need to be in the footnote, if they don't have a place in the body of the article, and i don't care to make the decision about moving them there.--Jerzy•t 06:53, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Rooney" passage 

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*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20071213173030/http://www.bbc.co.uk:80/homeground/archive/2003/bethnal-green-tube-disaster.shtml to http://www.bbc.co.uk/homeground/archive/2003/bethnal-green-tube-disaster.shtml
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thread_title:  External links modified