Talk:Mausoleum of Genghis Khan

message: I referred to:
*"The Eight White Ordon, the Offering Ceremonies of Genghis Khan and the Mausoleum of Genghis Khan" by Oyunbilig
*Report of the Avraga Site by Shiraishi Noriyuki (Japanese)
*Some works by Okada Hidehiro and Miyawaki Junko. They explain the origin of Jinong. For English readers, Okada Hidehiro, The Ordos Jinong in Erdeni-yin Tobči, Journal of Asian and African Studies, No. 27, 1984, would be handy.
*Some works by Yang Haiying (楊海英 Oγonos Čoγtu) including 「金書」研究への序説 (An Introduction to Altan Bičig). He comes from the Üüshin Banner. Although his main topics are not the mausoleum, he often mentions it.
--Nanshu 02:15, 6 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: I've changed the meaning of Darkhad. Darkhan has little to do with being sacred. In the modern understanding it means something like craftsman. Yaan 12:31, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Darkhad 

message: "In 1949 Prince Demchugdongrub, founder of Mengjiang, met the mausoleums in Bayankhota of Alashan. This symbolic event deeply impressed the prince and his subjects." Something is wrong here, but it is unsourced so I don't know what. By 1949 Mengjiang was I believe dead (I think his last try was a year or two before) in the event that he was still fighting in 1949 he didn't really have many subjects and regardless more information is needed to contextualise what is going on here for the uninitiated. Threadnecromancer (talk) 19:54, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Problem with Prince De Nang

message: This edit established the usage of the page as British English. Kindly maintain it consistently, pending a new consensus to the contrary. — LlywelynII 14:05, 27 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: ENGVAR

message: More at Su's dissertation. Inter alia, he says that the mausoleum is located in "Horoo Sumu" in "Ejen-horoo Banner".
More at
* .
but the Chinglish is too powerful to understand what it's really saying about the horses at the mausoleum. There's probably a comprehensible Chinese version of the article somewhere... Similar problems 
* here and
* here
concerning the Genghis Khan rituals and Ordos-style weddings on pages that seem to have been translated for the Miss World competition by local authorities.
* These pages here
from China Daily for the Inner Mongolian government are pretty bland but include some of the official designations for the site's cultural heritage. — LlywelynII 21:44, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources for future article expansion

message: Most of the cites claim the statue is 5 m, but Man says it's 4 m. He also says that it's marble, which is possible but probably needs further verification; our page previously said that it was white jade, which seems implausible. Most monumental Chinese statues are just concrete or plaster. — LlywelynII 00:52, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Statue

message: :In 1949, Prince Demchugdongrub, founder of Mengjiang, met the mausoleums in Bayankhota in the Alxa League. This symbolic event deeply impressed the prince and his subjects.
Well, to start off, that second bit is just ridiculous. That phrasing is ing and  pushing that has no business in the article even if there were a source; what was the symbolism? and what was its importance? Second, the Japanese "founded" Mengjiang and it's not really anything to be praised about. Third, as far as the sourced timeline goes, the relics don't seem to have been anywhere near the Alxa League. Is this just wrong? talking about a separate group of relics? or accurate, and the timeline at the IATS seminar is missing a section during the collapse of the Nationalists in '49? — LlywelynII 10:45, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Prince De in 1949

message: : [The permanent structure was] destroyed in 1937 as part of a purge against Mongolian Buddhism.
The paper from the IATS seminar states the Darkhad destroyed the structure themselves at the suggestion of the Panchen Lama. Was the article wrong before? or mistaken and talking about a different structure somewhere else? — LlywelynII 11:13, 28 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: 1937 Buddhist pogrom

message: It would be better to remove the unsourced content than having the article filled with those ugly "citation needed" tags, or better to provide sources to support the content. Also, tourist websites should be avoided in Wikipedia. It is better to support the content with academic works.--Aethelwolf Emsworth (talk) 16:31, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  All those "citation needed" 

message: Searching information in Chinese, it appears that other "Temples of Genghis Khan" have been built everywhere in Inner Mongolia and northeast China over the last decade, for instance this in Jilin. If they are administered by the Darkhad priestly clan they are to be considered satellites of the central Lord Genghis Khan's Enclosure (Mausoleum of Genghis Khan).--Aethelwolf Emsworth (talk) 17:11, 13 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other temples of Genghis Khan