Talk:Turret deck ship

message: It's hard to pin down definitively without some research to find solid references, but I keep seeing hints about the relationship. See for example: Sunderland Datapage 11 and in particular the 'Sagamore': Built Doxford in 1893. 2140 tons Hull 218 	... That ship may have been an evolutionary link. ++Lar: t/c 00:24, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This reference: http://www.hhpl.on.ca/GreatLakes/Documents/Scanner/03/07/default.asp?ID=c011 may also be of some help. Pictures of these are hard to find. ++Lar: t/c 00:36, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sagamore was built by Doxford in 1893, but the first turret ship had been built the year before (and the year after Wetmore visited Liverpool).  On the relationship between ship types, a drawing of cross-sections would be helpful. I have cross-sections for conventional, turret, and trunk deck ships; I do not have one for a whaleback.  (The upper part is obvious, but the bottom does not show in the photos, and it would also be useful to know if there was a double bottom.)  Kablammo 02:54, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think (but don't have a cite to prove it) that whalebacks had relatively flat squared off bottoms since they had to go through locks and into shallow draft ports. I don't know if they had double bottoms or not. Drawings are hard to come by, except that if we can figure out WHICH patent matters to the design, the many McDougall patents have drawings galore. (he patented a military landing craft that was roll-on/roll-off!!!) ++Lar: t/c 03:45, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  relation to [[whaleback]] ships 

message: Is this really top importance in the ships article categorization scheme? ++Lar: t/c 13:54, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't think so, but Wikipedia:WikiProject Ships/Assessment suggests that it is.  And as much of the content is new, the old assessment may not be valid anymore-- it's no longer a Start.  But as I contributed that new content I won't assess it.  Kablammo 14:04, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I will. Wow. You added a lot, and it's well reffed too. Well done. Class B. I moved it to Mid but someone can change that I guess... to my way of thinking a design that resulted in less than 200 ships and that was more or less a dead end isn't "top" ... ++Lar: t/c 16:25, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As per the assessment criteria established by the members of WP:SHIPS, articles on ship types are considered top importance.  --Kralizec! (talk) 14:30, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It may not be considered a type in the way that, for example, a tanker or aircraft carrier is, but rather a design.  These vessels all appear to be general cargo vessels or bulk carriers.  For whalebacks however there were bulk carriers, tankers, and even a passenger vessel.  Kablammo 14:41, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When we started our assessment drive, we decided to use a pretty liberal interpretation for type of ships.  Check out  for some examples.  --Kralizec! (talk) 14:56, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just took a look at container ship (wrong project) and bulk carrier.  There's some reassessment work to do!  Kablammo 14:59, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for catching these mistakes!  In the course of just 54 days we assessed over 6300 articles that fell within the scope of the project ... and I fear that mistakes were bound to happen.  --Kralizec! (talk) 15:49, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  top importance 

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