Talk:Meat pie

message: I think we should substitute succulent for savory.  :dodgy:
The Duck! It is a so succulent! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.107.128.152 (talk • contribs).
: Savo[u]ry has a specific meaning in cooking, so it is an appropriate term to use. Specifically it distinguishes this pie from apple, French silk, and other sweet pies. —C.Fred (talk) 14:02, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Word substitution 

message: Australian and New Zealand meat pie should be merged into this article, as 1) a content fork and 2) a fight over the naming leading to a cumbersone article name. Chris (クリス • フィッチュ) (talk) 11:32, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps steak pie would be a better merge target: the subject of that short article appears to be more closely related. Jonathunder (talk) 12:00, 10 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, Australian and New Zealand meat pie definitely needs to be merged. I think meat pie is a logical target. Looking at steak pie, that article also seems redundant and perhaps could be merged into meat pie too.  Format (talk) 18:07, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I totally disagree. Having lived in New Zealand and Australia, I have actually experienced the pies in question. And having travelled all over the world, I have found them to be unique. The "close comparison" with British steak pies is, in my opinion, not very close. I have literally never found a meat pie in the UK that was suitable for eating out of your hands, nor one with the same pastry. They sound similar on paper, but the reality is markedly different. I also note that the generic meat pie article links to several regional specialty pie articles, and I believe that precedent is more than adequate to justify the additional page. Additonally, the particular style of pie is a cultural icon of Australasia. As far as the article title goes, I think that you could resolve it by calling it the Australasian Meat Pie, but only if you really cared, because the name seems fine to me as it stands.Samuel.Allan.123 (talk) 17:37, 25 January 2010 (UTC)

text: I disagree with the merge too. The ANZ pie article covers its cultural significance in some detail, and merging this here would leave this article very unbalanced. Its title is fine. And I agree with Samuel that they are quite different from meat pies found elsewhere. The general article for meat pies would benefit from incorporating a brief summary of the ANZ article's content, but a simple merge is not the answer IMO. -- Avenue (talk) 20:33, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree also.  The Aussie/NZ meat pie is as distinct from meat pies in general as Tourtiere or Scotch pie, and a merger would unbalance the article.  Beastiepaws (talk) 20:18, 17 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge from Australian and New Zealand meat pie 

message: Suggest adding a brief popular culture section, or at least some other connection to Sweeney Todd. Don't know offhand if there are any other significant popular culture references to meat pie, though I wouldn't be surprised if there were more to warrant a section. Also, what would one cite, or how would one go about citing that reference? A Large Trout (talk) 19:49, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meat pie in popular culture 

message: History would be a good section to add in here, it would be a nice lead-up to another section about different varieties of meat pies. The section could include information about what culture first created them for, if they had any roles besides just plain food source, what other cultures adopted it into their own, and the transformation of the meat pie over time.
Esreed (talk) 20:45, 29 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  History of the Meat Pie 

message: There are already a few examples of the regional variations of meat pies listed in the article, but they are unorganized and sparse. The regional variation section edits would include Middle Eastern Meat Pies (Sfeeha), Greek (Kreatopita), Australian, Natchitoches (Louisiana), Samosa (Indian) etc.
I also cited two sources for this section. WattsAndrea (talk) 20:40, 5 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Regional Variations of the Meat Pie 

message: Surely the ancient Egyptians did not know meat pies as "galettes", since that is a French word.01:25, 23 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Egyptians

message: There's mention of Jamaican patties as "the product of colonialism", but I can't find much mention of the English meat patty which it derives from. My grandmothers certainly made "meat patties" which were a bit like Cornish pasties but with shortcrust pastry. The Jamaican version clearly derives from something like this.Gymnophoria (talk) 03:24, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: British meat patties

message: So in the medieval period pies were supposedly filled with meat of the "magpie pigeon".
However,  the "magpie pigeon" is an obscure fancy breed of pigeon,  first bred in Germany or
Denmark around 1900,  apparently named "magpie pigeon" because of its black and white
colouring,  and not a very meaty bird.
So what is this alleged "magpie pigeon" used to fill pies in the medieval period in Britain ?
A magpie or a pigeon ?   There is no "magpie pigeon". Eregli bob (talk) 18:58, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magpie Pigeon 

message: Has no one got any better pictures? The meat pie shown is a bowl of sloppy stew with pastry on top, the next pie is undercooked, the pasty looks like it has been reheated until dried out and the tea is unstirred.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pawebster (talk • contribs) 11:21, 16 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos not very good 

message: It is stated that meat pies are popular in Europe as well as Australia and Canada. Apart from being false, as the UK, Ireland and Poland are probably the only countries were you would make a pie in this fashion, it is strange to be listing a mix of continents and countries. The sentence should be restructured as to make it clear that Europe is not listed as an example of a country or it should be rewritten so that you only name countries.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.232.73.116 (talk) 10:12, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: You are very much mistaken. Meat pies are very popular in Australia (and New Zealand), and a specific meat pie (tourtiere) is common holiday fare in French-speaking parts of Canada.  I'm not sure why it's necessary to name only countries. PepperBeast (talk) 06:30, 3 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction