Talk:John Hanson (myths)

message: Beief explanation from back when... The John Hanson article at one time was getting overloaded with these information on this page. IMHO, Hanson deserves a straight-forward biography. Although the main article could be better or longer, merging this material into it (even now) makes that article spend almost half its words responding to the 'myths', so I created this article. Improve it if you will, but I'd still vote against deltion. Just thought I'd explain why, see further information on Talk:John Hanson.  Lou I 07:52, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Rational

message: Wiki does not fairly allow individuals to address inaccuracies in its articles.  The writer on John Hansen has made numerous inaccuracies and one is not allowed to change them.  This is precisely why numerous Black contributions are also excluded from the annals of the pages of history.
:In no particular order, your changes:
*assert that it is "not a myth" he was the first president, and instruct us to "Consult the Library of Congress and the National Archive Records" - but does not anywhere suggest where the Library of Congress or the National Archive has stated this. It is clear from the presented details that his position is not the same as President of the United States.
*assert with no source that "masonic circles" long assumed Hanson was black, and talk about "a white Hanson and a black Hanson" with no explanation of who these two are.
*assert with no source that the vote was unanimous, despite no record of the vote tallies being made
:If you can provide details as to why any of these are specifically inaccurate, I would love to hear them. But alluding to "the Library of Congress" and "masonic circles" as your sources, without any details, does not help us get anywhere. Shimgray | talk | 16:09, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  April 2007 revisions 

message: Many people apparently have argued both for and against John Hanson being Black.  Truth be told, I myself don't know as I've just recently been made aware of him.  What I do know is that many Blacks who were the sons and daughters of mixed raced unions -- usually against the will of their Black mothers, ie. rapes -- passed for white and basically blended into white society.  Take for example Alexander Hamilton.  Although he looked white, he was actually mixed.  When his brother attempted entry into the US via his native Barbados, he was almost sold into slavery.  It was only at Alexander's behest that he escaped this fate.  Furthermore, his mother is buried in the slave section of a cemetary in Barbados.  This was hardly a fate afforded to a white person.
So was John Hanson Black?  I still don't know.  I will do my own research and make my own conclusions. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 130.207.68.13 (talk • contribs) 05:23, February 4, 2005
john hanson is a white man! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.238.170.34 (talk • contribs) 12:08, May 10, 2007
Yes, John Hanson was Black, in fact he was the first Black President, actually the first President period with six other Black Presidents to follow. George Washington was the 8th president. Why is this not hard to believe the same people that created the fiction that Christopher Columbus discovered American when he was actually lost and lead to land that was inhibited by Indians.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.228.18.227 (talk) 20:22, 28 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Hanson was Black: Fact or Fiction? 

message: This picture shows a darked skined man seated maybe first at the table signing the Declaration, and also.. so pictures that have been scoured online show 2 maybe even trhee different pictures12.111.192.164 13:20, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The 2 dollar bill picture of John Hanson 

message: "There is no record that the grandfather was black"
Is there a source for any of this? Anyway, assuming there was no record that the grandfather was black, this means his ethnicity was unknown. So it doesn't seem right to dismiss this as a myth. There is no record he was white either. Unless there is more information, its probably better to not mention it at all.
:A myth is a story that is unproven, but accepted as true for reasons having to do with values, cultural or religious beliefs. Hence, most Jesus stories are myths: they may or may not be true. No judgement is implied.
:The myth here is not merely about ancestry. the claim is that Hanson was the descendant of an African American slave. However, this ties to the known fact that Hanson's grandfather was an indentured servant. All of that said, I have problems with the title of this article and the seeming WP:OR throughout. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 21:33, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  African American ancestry myth