Talk:Perpetual peace

message: The German article about the work by Immanuel Kant is Zum ewigen Frieden. Some more English text can be found in an older version of Perpetual Peace. -- Amtiss, SNAFU ? 16:13, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

message: Oppose merger. Perpetual peace is Kant's term and related to his theory. It is not the same as world peace which can have many different causes. It there is a merger, it should be from Perpetual peace to World peace.Ultramarine 23:48, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger 

message: A brief review shows that the false claims regarding Well's pamphlet are again repeated. Well's was a socialist and despised liberal democracy. None of his arguments are for popular government. Ultramarine 00:51, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Lie It is in the popular government of the allies that he relies for the perpetuity of the peace. Septentrionalis 01:08, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

text: This is another straw man.  It is possible to support democracy and deplore the actions of the press in war-time; why I believe I was discussing such statements by some poli-sci prof called Rummel quite recently. Nor is it surprising that Wells regarded democracy as one of several necessary points; there's something called Kantian peace theory, which makes the same argument nowadays.  Septentrionalis 01:30, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, you are incorrect. As noted in my quotes, Wells never mention liberal democracy as a cause for perpetual peace. Ultramarine 01:40, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Your ability to lift quotes wholly and present them out of context never ceases to amaze me....--Scaife (Talk)  Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 02:06, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please give your supporting quote. My first quote is Wells summary of his position.Ultramarine 02:10, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Please quote at length like I do. Ultramarine 03:50, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I decline to quote passages three pages in length, especially from a printed source. Such demands are also harassment. Go and look up the cited pages. Septentrionalis 03:57, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I quote at length, you do not.Ultramarine 04:05, 4 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What is the point of your argument? --Scaife (Talk)  Don't forget Hanlon's Razor 04:06, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

text: You cite by page.  As the book is neither obscure nor hard to obtain, that is sufficient.  I commend to Ultramarine (and anyone else interested in checking the citations in detail) a marvelous institution called the library. Robert A.West (Talk) 03:10, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed templates 

message: *Said so himself. Monumentum Ancyranum 13 and 26. 
*Made it a theme of his propaganda in, inter alia,  the Ara Pacis and Vergil's  Fourth Eclogue.
*See for more the concluding chapter of Ronald Syme's Roman Revolution.
*This is peace through conquest, of course; that's the point of the sentence.Septentrionalis 16:30, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Augustus

message: *The Showa era means enlightened peace, on the same theory: after we conquer the world it will be peaceful. 
*See the chapter on Japan in John Gunther's Inside Asia, which is contemporary.Septentrionalis 16:30, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hirohito

message: *See quote from Isaiah, added by Mr. West to this article.Septentrionalis 16:30, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Christianity and Judaism

message: *See the sources to Muhammad al-Mahdi. Septentrionalis 16:30, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Shia

message: Extensive quotations from original sources do not belong in Wikipedia articles. That is what Wikiquote and Wikisource are for. Septentrionalis 16:43, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikisource

message: This article is potentially good, but it is not neutral. This statement in the intro is not good: "There are also a number of secular projects for a perpetual peace which employ means more subtle, but perhaps more attainable, than universal empire or even democratic world government." It sounds very opinionated, please fix it. Acumensch (talk) 18:51, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV