Talk:Waltz (music)

message: For a Wikipedia article on one of the most famous dance types in Western music, this article has some serious issues, not only with respect to the overgrowth of given specific examples as noted above, but also with the fundamental (unsourced) definition of a waltz which is given at the outset.
A waltz is by definition in triple meter, but need not be notated in any specific time signature; while it is true that waltzes are most frequently notated in 3/4, there is no need to list any additional possible time signatures, because waltzes can be notated in 3/8, 6/8, 6/4, 12/8, 9/8, etc., ad nauseum. Also, on what basis can it be claimed that waltzes are "generally in a slow tempo?" Slow is a relative term. Slow compared to what? A waltz is faster than a minuet, but slower than most scherzo-type movements. This statement is particularly troublesome.  
I am not sure it is wise to assert that waltzes "typically" have one chord per bar. It is far from uncommon to find a change of harmony on beat three; and there is no sense in saying that the root of the chord is the first note of the bar--for starters, this would imply that waltzes are somehow always monophonic; not to mention that, if the chord is in inversion, the bass note on beat one will not be the root. 
: I do agree with you that waltzes can change key part-way through a bar, but one of the most recognizable features of a waltz is that um-cha-cha chord that stays throughout the bar. I don't claim to be an expert, but most of the waltzes I've ever played changed key part-way through bars infrequently, if at all. It seemed to be more of a method for linking two different sections.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.154.113.53 (talk) 11:59, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues of definition, etc. 

message: The article states, "The left hand accompaniment is known as an "oom-pa-pa" beat and consists of one of the major chords, C, F or G."  However, I believe a waltz can be in any key, and need not contain any specific chords.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.114.187.18 (talk) 14:13, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right, of course; the statement that only chords C, F and G are used is absurd and I am removing this at once. 91.105.13.247 (talk) 21:15, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Technical Error? 

message: Do we know that Chopin's waltzes were "clearly not intended to be danced to"? They're all quite danceable if they're played at the right tempo.  Walzking (talk) 21:24, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeing the footnote number at the end of the paragraph, I assumed I would find verification of the claim there. Not only was that not the case, but the linked item appears to be nothing more than an advertisement for a recording. I have left it in place for the time being, just in case I have overlooked something. Your point is very well taken, and has led to uncovering one of those proverbial nests of worms. Thank you for pointing this out. In fact, this whole article looks like a worm farm. I think I'll go fishing.—Jerome Kohl (talk) 21:53, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chopin 

message: What is a viennese waltz? Could someone who knows the answer create a section? 90.196.67.198 (talk) 20:49, 9 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Viennese? 

message: Aren't the two connected, linguistically? Ema--or (talk) 20:15, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Volta 

message: I think it would be both instructive and statistically valid to mention that around 2008, when 38% of phones were Nokias, all therefore had (and most kept) Francisco Tárrega's Gran Vals as their ringtone.  Like it or not, it may indeed be the most recognizable waltz out there. That linked article says in 2009 it was played 1.8 Billion times a day, about 20,000 times a second. Take that, Schubert! –Mrcolj (talk) 20:59, 17 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tárrega / Nokia's Ringtone