Talk:Ford Sierra

message: It's surprising to see an article on the Ford Sierra without mentioning its most obvious weakness; rust.  The rust problem certainly gave the car a dowdy image which was bound to inhibit sales.  Mechanically they were rather behind the times compared to contemporaries such as the Vauxhall Cavalier with its front wheel drive and more responsive engine.  But how to say these things in an impartial non Point Of View way?  I leave this to someone more closely connected with the vehicles. Colin99 20:53, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rust!

message: The style section mentions a "class leading Cd of 0.34". But Audi released their Audi 100 for the same (1983) model year with a Cd of 0.3, so this statement is not strictly true. 194.206.39.97 16:39, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In the UK and Germany the price differential and size differential was sufficient for the Audi 100 to be positioned against the larger Ford Granada.   Although the Sierra was a smidgeon larger than the Audi 80 of that time, that is more a reflection of the fact that the Audi 80 was by then smaller than such obvious competitors as the VW Passat (which had recently grown).   I do not think most people would have thought of the Sierra as inhabiting the same class as the Audi 100.   One was a middle sized saloon, the other was a large saloon.   Charles01 (talk) 16:24, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ISTR they had to make some subtle aerodynamic changes fairly early on as the original shape was, as Neil Kinnock discovered, rather iffy in a cross-wind.  Anyone know the details? Mr Larrington (talk) 12:39, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Cd factor

message: The pictures are presented rather haphazardly: what on earth is a 1993 Sapphire doing next to the text about the 1981 Probe III and the 1983 model??? The article should really should contain one good clear image of the 1983 model (preferably near the top of the page) so that people can appreciate the revolutionary design. 194.206.39.97 16:39, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pictures

message: 1800cc Sierras.... They don't seem to have existed in either Pinto or CVH form according to this page!
Also there was never a 1.6 OHV available. It was an OHC Pinto in the early years and later a 1.6 CVH was sometimes used.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.170.181.18 (talk) 15:46, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Engine info 

message: Ford tried to sue Dutton Cars when the Ford Sierra came out as Dutton had a Kit car called the 'Sierra' and Ford tried to get ownership of the 'Sierra' name, unfortunately for Ford, Dutton had been using the name for some time before Ford. IIRC, Ford sued Dutton Cars and lost.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.112.48.22 (talk) 21:35, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: I removed the untrue statement "XR4Ti outsold all the European XR variants combined"
According to the book "The Sporting Fords : Volume 4 Sierras" by Graham Robson, Sierra production figures are as follows :
Sierras
XR4i : 25,662
XR4x4 : 39,554
Sierra Cosworth (3 door) : 5,542
Sierra RS500 : 500
Sapphire Cosworth (2wd)  : 13,140
Sapphire Cosworth (4wd)  : 12,250•
TOTAL : 97,347
Merkur XR4Ti : 45,748
Non-Sierra XR Fords
Fiesta XR2  : 20,000•
Escort XR3  : 25,500•
Escort XR3i  : 47,051•
TOTAL : 92,551
• These figures were obtained by Internet searching of European XR and RS web sites. They do not include the Fiesta XR2i, the Fiesta RS1800, the Fiesta RS Turbo, the Escort RS1600i, or the Escort RS Cosworth.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Leesonic (talk • contribs) 12:52, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merkur 

message: Was there not a second slight facelift which introduced the white indicators and blacked out rear lights?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Theofficeprankster (talk • contribs) 23:54, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second Facelift? 

message: Under Sierras outside Europe, under South Africa, the second-last paragraph refers to a Cologne.  I think this should be Pinto instead of Cologne.  The Pinto 2 liter was used in the Sierras and Sapphires, and is an inline-4.  The Cologne is a V6.  The kW figures also match those of the Pinto 2 liter engine. Hilton Williams (talk) 11:59, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Please - especially if you can find a source - correct it.   Success. Charles01 (talk) 12:06, 6 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should be Pinto instead of Cologne? 

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