Talk:Livin' la Vida Loca

message: I mean what does livin' la vida loca mean?217.132.195.141 (talk) 10:12, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It already says at the top "(English: Living the Crazy Life)", which is hilarious, because one part of it was translated from Spanish, but they also translated the "Livin'" part (which I guess is not English?) into proper English. --76.91.63.71 (talk) 06:24, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  nowhere does it explain the title of the song 

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message: The cited reference doesn't seem to mention this song but rather La Copa de la Vida.  Is there a source for this?  -KaJunl (talk) 02:28, 5 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recording,  Gentleman's Club- source 

message: and about Latin America sales, if you don't have information, there wasn't single certifications in Latin America in 90s and early 2000s. You can just check Mexico certifications and take back and see when the first singles was certified in mexico.
You really think "Livin' la Vida Loca" has sold less than "Tiburones" and "Perdoname"?!
Just think about it 😐
If Mexico had charts and certifications those year, we had much more certifications, but now it doesn't mean that it hadn't sold anything in Mexico 😐 
Also you can check this link:
https://charts.youtube.com/artist/%2Fm%2F01w61th?date_end=2020-08-06T00%3A00%3A00Z&location=0x84043a3b88685353%3A0xed64b4be6b099811&hl=en-gb
And check its music video views since last year in Mexico. You can compare it with some of his biggest hits in mexico like "Pégate" and "Tu Recuerdo". (Both certified for selling 400,000 sales in the country)
Why an older music video and song has even a better performance in Mexico now, if it wasn't a hit in Latin America?!
It's really simple, please just think about sth and then write "The single performed well only in his first year of release" about a song that is still performs well 21 years after realese :/
آرمین هویدایی (talk) 05:38, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: "there wasn't single certifications in Latin America in 90s and early 2000s." It's not that. Singles always was essentially sold in US, Canada, Japan and European markets, that's why created singles certifications never was a priority in latin countries, they're are not selling a lot there and 90% of them were merely use for promo. And one thing is to say this song appeared some weeks in Latin charts of the Billboard, another is to say it sold millions because of that. It sold "only" 500,000 in US between its release to 2011, the amount of stremings it has probably is not enough to say it sold another 500,000 in US or 3, 4 or 5 millions around the world, that 8 million claim is completely exageratted even when we compared to Girlfriend (Avril Lavigne song) which the article claim 7,3 million sold and its certs and sales make you believe that.--88marcus (talk) 06:13, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I also agree with . 8 million seems highly inflated. I found at least one source indicating 5 million copies for "Livin' la Vida Loca", which are closest to its certifications/available sales (+ 3 million). According to Vibe: “ Livin ' la vida Loca , " sold more than 5 million copies . (Vol. 13, issues: 7-12, pag. 122. 2005). My 2cents is we can use that source. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 18:46, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

text: I agree with the inclusion of the 5 million  found. Do you agree ?
--88marcus (talk) 19:55, 8 August 2020 (UTC)

text: Maybe we can put something like: "Livin' la Vida Loca sold 5 million as of 2005, becoming one of the best-selling singles worldwide". Personally, I don't think is appropriate remove his worldwide sales. At least, that song sold 5 million and is one of the best-selling singles in the world. --Apoxyomenus (talk) 17:43, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. And the 8 million copies is still inflated no matter what. There was no big sales for physical singles in Latin America back then, but if it was the contrary how many copies it could be sell? 2,000 in Uruguay and get Gold, 10,000 in Chile and get platinum and so on. Even in big markets like Mexico and Spain Ricky's 1999 CD sold around 250,000, how can it got millions with a single? Digital singles begun to sold well after the interest for Living La Vida Loco (promotional tour, TV shows etc) decrease, Rick had already other singles and albums and we can see why it sold 500,000 in US till 2011 (where it performed better). Streaming sales doesn't seem help either, it performed well but conclude that it sold millions and millions with streaming seems not accurate.--88marcus (talk) 19:16, 9 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin America Sales 

message: https://www.billboard.com/charts/year-end/2019/latin-pop-digital-song-sales
"The single performed well only in his first year of release" 😐😂
You can check that link and check it year by year! آرمین هویدایی (talk) 05:49, 8 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latin Pop Digital Song Sales Chart 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Livin' la Vida Loca's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "tidal":
From Tiburones: 
From Canción Bonita: 
From The Cup of Life: 
From Cántalo: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 02:46, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Livin' la Vida Loca]] 

message: In this edit of mine I removed excess YouTube references, less important live performances, and less important cover versions. We are summarizing the important WP:SECONDARY sources for the reader, and trimming as much as possible to make a streamlined article. If someone sang the song on television, it's not automatically important to the topic. Not even if someone released the song as a single! The cover version should be observed by third party sources to be important to the topic. Binksternet (talk) 17:47, 29 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry that I saw this message late. About YouTube links in live performances section, I added it because Billboard article didn't mention what songs he performed, it was only about its date and place. So if you can find a better source to use, it would be great. But if not, can I just use those YouTube links as a source for the songs he performed. (without mentioning that they were uploaded on his YouTube channel.) آرمین هویدایی (talk) 09:33, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some excesses removed 

message: Here are some sources talking about the recording studio process to make this song. We should have a paragraph or two summarizing this information. Binksternet (talk) 04:36, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recording session details 

message: Sisqó settled out of court with the owners of "Livin' La Vida Loca" after he sampled their hit on his "Thong Song". Binksternet (talk) 04:41, 1 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sisqó pays for "Thong Song" sample 

message: Perhaps I'm being overly critical here, but "following his performance of "The Cup of Life" at the Grammys, and the success of "Livin' la Vida Loca" and Ricky Martin (1999), he opened the gates for many Latin artists such as Santana" seems very much a stretch. Carlos Santana performed at Woodstock. Santana's first US top 10 hits were released in 1969 and 1970. Santana's recordings of songs like "Black Magic Woman" and "Oye Como Va," from 1971, are the definitive versions (most people don't even realize they are cover versions). Santana were inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of fame the year before Ricky Martin's album was even released. The Santana album Supernatural, which hit #1 around the world and won 9 Grammys, was released only a month after Ricky Martin's debut album, and I don't think Ricky Martin can be credited for the success of an album that featured personnel such as Carlos Santana, Eric Clapton, Lauryn Hill, Rob Thomas, Dave Matthews, etc. At the very least shouldn't there be a source for such a grand claim?   Cervenka (talk) 05:48, 17 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all, there is a source regarding that in the article: Link Also, we all know Santana already had hits, especially in the US. But the success of Supernatural and hits "Smooth" and "Maria Maria" were in another level. Besides, he hadn't achieved a top-10 single or even album for decades in the US itself and the late '90s Latin explosion, created by Ricky Martin, was like a revival. About the part that you said "I don't think...", with respect, we are not here to write what we "think" while there are reliable sources such as Billboard against it. The success of an album is not always based on who have worked on it. آرمین هویدایی (talk) 10:00, 18 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legacy and Influence 

message: I've been thinking about including other elements and influences that can be heard throughout the song and are sourced other than just "Latin Pop", this question needs to be asked since the WP:EXPLICITGENRE says that sources must explicitly attribute the genre to the work or artist as a whole and none of the sources included state that Latin Pop is an explicit genre all throughout the song User:Tommyvercetti098 (talk) 22:11, 28 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should other genres be included in the infobox other than "[[Latin pop|Latin Pop]]"?