Talk:Mutemath

message: I noticed this quote in the article, under the "Typical" section, in reference to the "Control" video:
"The music video for the single was filmed in Nashville in January, but its distribution was halted due to copyright issues in regards to a previously released clip from a european group."
As far as I know, this theory is only speculation among fans, as the band has yet to release an official statement about why the video was shelved.  Either someone has access to private information or it's just the theory being stated as fact. Sir Lemming (talk) 17:20, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Please make sure next time when are you adding a new comment that you do so on the bottom of the page. It messes up the order of the comments. It's supposed to go from the oldest to the newest comments as you scroll down the page. Thanks! WiiAlbanyGirl (talk) 15:48, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reason for the shelving of the Control video 

message: I get dizzy watching all instances of "Teleprompt" get changed to "Teleprompt Records" and back again—can we please have a consensus on what it should be? —PrintHorizon 04:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like the records should be included as the link requires it either way... --T-rex 02:28, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Records, or not 

message: According to the official site the band's name is spelt MuteMath (no space) , though iTunes lists it as Mute Math . Can someone comment? Shall we change the article's title? --Redreth 18:37, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have yet to see any consistent spelling of the name. If you’ll note, “Mute Math” was also used further down the page. The credits inside the debut album (both the original and the rerelease) do clearly use “Mute Math,” so that is what I go with for now. —PrintHorizon 19:12, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Most official stuff I have seen has used it as two words... --T-rex 19:48, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I had noticed the ambiguity. Their MySpace site offers the same confusion. All titles: single word; text: both options. I've sent an email to the band to get an official response. --Redreth 00:18, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The ambiguity may be worth noting somewhere in the article, yes? —PrintHorizon 02:18, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You might notice, the ambiguity most often comes into play with their logo, which often has no space in it. However, I believe the band's name is two words, both capitalized. Souldier77 08:26, 27 November 2006 (UTC)

text: MOS guidelines dictate that all caps are not to used regardless of how a property stylizes. So I'd go for "Mutemath". Sarujo (talk) 21:11, 27 February 2010 (UTC)

text: Wikipedia guidelines like WP:LOWERCASE, WP:ALLCAPS, and WP:MOSTM require that we spell it as "Mutemath", regardless of what a band member or employee would like.  I've moved a few pages and I'll move some more tomorrow once the redirect pages get deleted.  Wyatt Riot (talk) 09:17, 13 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I like how that forum post has apparently died, but at the bottom of the page it rather clearly says "© 2009 Mute Math" —Fridgey34 (talk) 15:01, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  MUTEMATH, Mute Math or MuteMath? 

message: The video wasn't done in one take. There are a few cleverly hidden (and maybe not so clever) cuts in the video. Also, the footage on YouTube shows them doing shots in the video several times CerpinTaxt 19:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typical Video 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Mutemath fon-2-.png

message: OK, some people may disagree with the way I incorporated the album covers into the biography (myself included), but I did it for a good cause!  For those of you who remember a recent upset where "fair use laws" were enforced and those who didn't comply had their photos deleted from the page? Well it looks like the next annoying wave of Wikipedia policy enforcement is going to be wiping out "non-free" images from galleries and lists. The first victim was the Yolanda Adams discography that I spent some personal time working on. Their justification per Wikipedia:Non-free content#Images and Wikipedia:Non-free content criteria is that "non-free" images within galleries are "considered decorative." So some administrators are going through and sweeping out all photos from lists and galleries such as discographies and videographies, etc. So if you've done any work that you really value, I suggest that you take a backup copy of the photos or otherwise archive it yourself. Wikipedia is not being friendly about these things for whatever reason. Souldier77 17:38, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fear of disappearing album cover galleries & lists 

message: Edits in the past month deleted some notable events in Mute Math's early history, particularly:
* Singles released from Reset EP (some typical examples of content deletion are  this edit and that edit)
* A notable 2005 award for the song "Control", again from the Reset EP (example: this edit)
* Over at the Teleprompt Records article, the section of the associated legal controversy was recently removed without explanation this edit
There is no issue with verifiability since these items have citations, and likely have more sources available.
Rather than have this degenerate into a full-on edit war, we need to bring in some consensus here. 
# is there a valid reason to remove such milestones from the articles?
# if such information is removed, doesn't this distort the band's history and therefore result in an undue weight situation (part of Wikipedia's fundamental WP:NPOV policy)?
Dl2000 16:56, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The singles, award, and controversy are part of their past whether or not they like it. Since the edits are well sourced, they should NOT be removed. Removing it gives undue weight to their current genre. I don't think that this controversy should spill over onto the record label's article, except if it has impacted other groups. I could see at most a few sentences of text. Although I am a member of a Christian music WikiProject, I listen to as much mainstream music as Christian so I am not biased. 
The song Chaos isn't on the single list and it was played non-stop on the radio stations  (in Canada) around the beginning of 2007 and it was on the charts.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.216.64.18 (talk) 10:15, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits and early band history 

message: I'm not 100% sure but I've heard alot of stuff saying that MM is a christian band.And all related bands to this one are christian bands.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.119.73.170 (talk) 21:29, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Christianity

message: I've edited this album on before and it was deleted.  I'm wondering if it should be included or put on Meany's page since it is related to their band history.  Album Here  From what I understand, the set was recorded just before Mute Math was formed.  What do you guys think? FenderPriest (talk) 19:08, 24 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The booklet that comes with the CD actually lists Greg Hill and Darren King as well as Paul Meany as performing in Elevator Music. Given the timeline that would possibly include all members of the band. That being said it does include other musicians aside from Hill, King and Meany and is not a dedicated MUTEMATH release, so I still don't think it belongs on this page. Pittbel (talk) 12:54, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Elevator Music

message: I think that Mute Math's tour around the country for its fans who purchased VIP packages (which included a free listening preview of the entire 'Armistice' album before its release) should be listed in the tours section. It was essentially a listening party tour. If no one objects within the week, I'm addin' it! :) WiiAlbanyGirl (talk) 23:36, 4 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Listening Parties?

message: In the intro text to the Mutemath article, the band is listed as forming in 2003. Mere paragraphs later, the history section states 2001. Which is it? Fix it with a citation if you know the answer. I'm only vaguely familiar with the band. Brakoholic (talk) 14:33, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  So which is it, 2001 or 2003? 

message: Not only are the following two paragraphs poorly written in almost every way (and as far as I can tell, uncited), they read like they were written by band members themselves, and are thus decidedly unencyclopedic in tone.  They're in need of serious revision and citation or will be subject to deletion.
::Mutemath started in 2001 as a long distance collaboration between Paul Meany in New Orleans, Louisiana and Darren King in Springfield, Missouri. The two had known each other from their work together in Meany's previous band Earthsuit. Occasionally Paul would receive instrumental demo CDs from Darren. Fairly impressed with his efforts, Paul contacted Darren and asked if he could mess with the demos a bit, adding some ideas of his own. Darren obliged and the two would set in motion a sort of songwriting ping-pong match that would carry on for several months until Darren was asked to fill in as drummer for Earthsuit as the experimental Christian-rock band began to quickly dissolve. After Earthsuit finally disbanded, King moved to New Orleans and began to talk of a possible collaboration with Meany. The two worked on demos and played a handful of shows under the moniker "MATH".
::With the recruiting of guitarist Greg Hill, the trio worked in their New Orleans home studio writing and recording a whole new collection of songs. Paul immediately played the demos for longtime friend and producer Tedd T, who fell in love at first listen. The trio continued to work on demos with Tedd T for a possible EP while playing shows with another Earthsuit member in Adam LaClave's art-rock group Macrosick.
--Nonstopdrivel (talk) 12:09, 19 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formation 

message: Does it really need to say "drummer Darren King on drums".  One or the other I think would suffice.  Also, if there's a link to the drum page then for consistency there should also be links for guitar, keyboard, etc. Springfinger (talk)springfinger  —Preceding undated comment added 03:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundant drummer on drums playing drums with drums 

message: I added a new section containing information about new material they are currently working on.  There's alot of progress on a new album and interviews that haven't been mentioned yet in the article so I added the info. Jpagel (talk) 20:36, 31 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Material 

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