Talk:Zine

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In the intro paragraph, it says “The primary intent of publication is to advance the views of the editor rather than profit” - whereas there are multiple intentions for publication, including to reach/engage in a marginalized group/subculture, to report on a knowledge not spread far, to share the creators art, etc.
Photocopying not cheap or accessible until 1970s or later, earlier zines must have been produced by mimeograph or spirit duplication, looking for a source.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mockingfaces (talk • contribs) 12:11, 2 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  General Page Edit Suggestions 

message: How do you pronounce it, "zayn" or "zeen"?
"zayn"
-- What precedent is there for the pronunciation "zayn"...? (Clarification: being a British English speaker I read "zayn" to be equivalent to "zane", but I guess the intention was for "zine" to rhyme with "mine".  FTR I see no reason for it not to be the same as (maga)zine, i.e. "zeen").
:One reason would be that line, mine, sine, nine etc. all rhyme with each other. Through logic one could infer that zine would also rhyme with these words. However, English is often not a logical language... - Quirk 19:39, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: Zine is not a contraction of "fanzine," it is an abbreviation of magazine.  Even though "fanzine" appears in some zine titles, "fanzine" itself is a contraction of "fan magazine." R 07:10, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Fanzine" 

message: Factsheet Five (the name came from a short story by John Brunner)...
Which short story by John Brunner? The Factsheet Five page doesn't mention this at all. I've read elsewhere that Gunderloy originally published several "factsheets" on various subjects, so I've always assumed that F5 was named for that reason. Brunner was very prolific, and it would be nice to be able to follow this up without reading everything he ever wrote. Rbean 18:22, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Brunner? 

message: My zine Musea, 1992 -, started a Zine Hall of Fame about 10 years ago.This honors some of the best zines from the desktop publishing explosion of the late 80's and 90's, to today. It salutes zines from all over the world, though mostly US zines. It has about 50 inductees nominated over many years. See http://musea.us/fame0.html. The nominating process is open to all. Criteria includes 1. highest quality, and 2. The zine or zinester must have a substantial amount of work published. Tom Hendricks Musea 04:15, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zine Hall of Fame 

message: I am about to revert the page to remove the self-promotion through Brett69's addtion of the "Queer Zine" section.
SiennaLizard 14:21, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Self-promotion revert 

message: wikipedia needs a list of zine distros! should it be on this page? or should there be a seperate page? there are so many distros out there and they definately merit a list. 199.243.154.211 15:47, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I got everyone started with the distros I'm aware of and are still operational. Feel free to add to the list. Alanlastufka 16:29, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zine Distro List 

message: When I googled zines, I got a link to this wikipedia page, but this is what the description said:
Zine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaZines are fucking gay only fucking fags do zines. Retrieved from "http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zine". Views. Article · Discussion · Edit this page · History ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zine - 8k - Cached - Similar pages 
Is this vanadlism that was removed? How long before it stops showing up on google? Rocketqueen 15:57, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: the vandalism has gone again Mujinga 03:51, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The vandal is a kid in my glass. He's fat and homophobic a rabid yankee's fan and generally an idiot. The IP from my school got banned, and while it means I can't edit wikipedia at school anymore, it's pretty worth it.The motive is his strange obsession with a flagrantly homosexual teacher we had last year who assigned us to create our own zines. --scwizard 23:13, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed vandalism?

message: The links removed by User:JzG were not links to webzines, as they state, they were links to sites that distribute, or otherwise offer resources for zines and zinesters. I think there is a difference and while I don't think the list should have been as long as it was, I think including some of the notable distros should be allowed. And yes, I had a link there for my distro and realize I probably wouldn't be bringing it up otherwise, you don't need to point that out. =) Alanlastufka 16:10, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed Links

message: Apparently, A blogger with a sense of humour called Tom Dark placed what seems to be like a stand-up comedy monologue in the description of Zine, along with a link to his Blog. Someone should clean that up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.106.214.39 (talk) 20:24, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's happened again. TL;DR, chopped. He seems to be pushing the idea that he came up with the word "'zine", but he's going about it the wrong way. -Ashley Pomeroy 16:29, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tom Dark 

message: This article sounds like someone's high school report on "zines."  Also, I typically hate WikiPedia nazis that tag every article with "citation needed" and "this article does not cite any sources," but this article DOESN'T cite any sources, and so much is clearly one-sided opinion and assumptions of whoever wrote a majority of it.  I'd do something about it, but I'm not into zines or anything so I really don't care one way or the other (to be perfectly honest), just thought I'd throw that out to those of you who DO.Henryrothschild (talk) 09:02, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Absolutely terrible 

message: I imported the content from the article alt.zines per the RFD consensus.  However, I don't know the proper procedure for cleaning up (removing) the original.  So if someone could check my work and finish that up, I would appreciate it muchly. Msalt (talk) 18:18, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with Alt.Zines 

message: There is / was a significant branch of zines based around the rationale of postal games, mainly Diplomacy. It started with Graustark, an American zine from (I believe) the 1960's. I was vaguely familiar with the UK scene in the early 80's, but not enough to contribute an article. Mad Policy was an important one; its editor made an attempt to assemble an archive of all Diplomacy zines in one place. Other notable ones were Ode, DibDibDib, Greatest Hits, Gallimaufry Courier (or was it just Courier?), Dolchstoss (a.k.a. "Dullstuff" (smirk)) but there were many, many more. There was considerable overlap between the Dippy zines and the FRP ones, which was a zine scene of its own: Acolyte, Beholder, Dragonlords, Storm Lord, Alarums and Excursions (the latter being an APA) ... it goes on for ever, but vague memory based on anecdotes makes no basis for a wikipedia article. --Matt Westwood 22:06, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mention the games zine scene? 

message: I agree with the above comment, the postal Diplomacy hobby really ought to get a mention on this page. Gallimaufry and Courier were two distinct zines. I believe Courier was the first zine in the British postal Diplomacy hobby, established by Don Turnbull. Richard Sharp who edited Dolchstoss was a notable and controversial figure in the UK hobby. I participated in the UK hobby during the 1980s. Cheers, Jason Finch (jasonpfinch@yahoo.co.uk)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.66.226.95 (talk) 18:54, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  The US/UK and European postal Diplomacy hobby should be mentioned!

message: What does "in soi disant perzine" mean? Non-english, bad copy and paste? Bad photocopy?
--「ѕʀʟ·✎」 06:49, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess it's French and/or a legal term. I added a link and a hyphen,  but the sentence still doesn't make grammatical sense to me. --「ѕʀʟ·✎」 06:55, 23 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "in [[Soi-disant|soi disant]]"? 

message: Section alt.zines has been tagged unsourced since 2009. Note my edit here is marked "minor" by mistake. SlightSmile 17:58, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rem out unsourced 

message: I replaced the following speculative history of the word zine based on several self-published sources with more reliably sourced information here. It should be noted that even in an article about zines, self-published works (such as blogs and zines) are not considered reliable sources in most cases – see . —Coconutporkpie (talk) 12:27, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition 

message: I tagged the section on 1990s history for cleanup because a lot of concepts are presented without sufficient explanation for a general audience. For example: What are "feminist documents" and what do they document? How does one "enact intimacy"? What do "grassroots texts", "rhetorical tropes", "reclamation and refiguring of femininity", "notions of riot grrrl community", or "sites of feminist practice" mean to the average reader? According to What Wikipedia is not,  and . Hopefully someone with access to the sources cited can rewrite some of this material in plain English. For the research papers cited, it may not be possible to sufficiently explain the ideas presented without a novel interpretation of primary sources (WP:PRIMARY) – in such cases, it might be better to remove the material entirely and keep only the reliable secondary sources. —Coconutporkpie (talk) 23:55, 17 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  1990s and riot grrrl/girl zines 

message: Zine library currently redirects to Zine#Libraries and archives
while Zine libraries currently redirects to Self-managed social center#Infoshops.
Maybe both "Zine library" and "Zine libraries" should both redirect to Zine#Libraries_and_archives?
And maybe Zine#Libraries_and_archives should include link to Infoshop article? (zine doesn't mention infoshop nor Self-managed social center) --EarthFurst (talk) 21:37, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  aye it's all a bit of a mess if you have the time to be bold and reorganize it would be cool! happy to give feedback Mujinga (talk) 15:01, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, I noticed these forwards too. also the Zine#Libraries and archives section mostly includes zine collections within major institutions and doesn't adequately cover the large number of DIY and autonomous zine libraries  Rhagfyr (talk) 20:35, 13 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zine library and libraries 

message: Wondering if there could be a category named "Publications with zine reviews" (or similar) including Factsheet Five, Broken Pencil, HeartattaCk, maybe Library Journal (Zinewiki says Library Journal had a zine review column), Maximumrocknroll (still does zine reviews), Punk Planet, Razorcake (still does zine reviews), Slug and Lettuce (fanzine), and Xerography Debt (still publishing). Surprised no Wikipedia page about Xerography Debt. --EarthFurst (talk) 00:22, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hmmm we could have a look around for similar categories, on first reflection i'm on the fence if that's a useful category or not but then again you've already given over five items so it's possible. Regarding xerodebt if there's enough significant coverage in reliable sources then I'd say go for it! Mujinga (talk) 15:05, 21 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  zine review category? 

message: It looks like the information here fizzles out after the early 2000s, so we're missing out on at least a decade of zine trends. I'm also noticing a lack of information about art / artist zines as well as Queer zines. Perhaps an addition of a section about marginalized groups and zines would work, plus an art zine section. AGuidry57 (talk) 15:06, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current trends and art zines