Talk:Uniforms of the United States Marine Corps

message: The section on the Blue-White Dress is a bit off.
While the Silent Drill Platoon (called the Silent Drill Team when I first arrived in '82) is part of the the unit at Marine Barracks Washington D.C. The uniform was worn by all of the "Ceremonial Units" at the barracks prior to the change. This includes the other 5 marching platoons, Color Guard, and Body Bearers. At the time I believe Marines assigned to embassy security details, and on sea duty wore the white trousers as well.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.125.176.3 (talk) 17:21, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blue-White Dress 

message: In this article, it is stated that The Dress Alphas can't be worn on liberty.  I have never heard of such an order, nor have I seen it enforced...does anyone know which MCO or MARADMIN this was derived from???
Deeter063 01:34, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: MCO P1020.34, Chapter 2, Section 2003, Paragraph 3: "3. Blue dress uniforms are designated as follows: a. The blue dress "A" uniform includes the blue dress coat with large medals. This uniform will not be worn for leave or liberty. b. The blue dress "B" uniform consists of the same items as blue dress "A" except that ribbons are worn in lieu of medals." I think the confusion was Dress A vs Dress B. You can wear you blues out on liberty, but not with your medals. I've rarely seen a Marine choose to wear blues on libo, and never have I seen one try to wear his medals. (ref: http://www.tecom.usmc.mil/mcub/library/MCUR/URCH2.htm#UR2000) bahamut0013♠♣ 14:09, 16 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Blues Alphas

message: At the head of the article, it is claimed that the Marine uniform has been in service the longest.  First of all, this statement is inspecific as to which of the various Marine uniforms is supposed to have been so long in service.  Second, the Marine uniforms have changed with the same regularity as those of the Army and Navy. The current blue dress uniform is not identical to that worn during the second world war, which was not identical that worn in the first.  While the marine version of the dress blues did not change to open lapels when the army's did, it never the less underwent comparable stylistic changes such as the addition of pockets to the enlisted uniform, the standardization of headgear to white for officers and enlisted, and addition and subsequent removal of dart seams on the breast. However, barring stylistic changes the Army blue/sky-blue uniform has been in service for longer than the Marines' version.  The first marine blue uniforms were blue with white trousers in the style of the Navy's uniform at the time.  Later, around the time of the civil war, the Marines donned unforms in the style of the Army with sky blue trousers. The only thing sepparating the army and marine uniforms at that time was the color of stripe on officers trousers and white belts for the Marines.  The Marine uniform underwent several variations in trouser and coat color until the turn of the century when they once again adopted the same basic style as the Army. 
The green dress uniform is descended from the drab field uniforms adopted by the Army and Marines around the time of WW1.  Durring the war the only difference between the Army and Marine field uniform was that Marine jackets had two darts on the breast and the Army's had one.  Since then, the Marines have removed the darts and the Army changed the shade of their green uniform and shirt.
Ultimately the Navy's white uniform is probably closer to it's form at the beginning of the 20th century than either the Marine's or Army's dress blues. --24.151.184.192 (talk) 18:40, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dress Blue Uniform 

message: New comment:  I removed the reference to amphibious assaults being the "most complex military maneuver." Granted, they are complex, but this page isn't the place to make an unsubstantiated and controversial claim.  I also removed the comment about leaders in the marines.  Marine unit leadership and marine training is a subject for another article.  -Greg  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gsperla (talk • contribs) 03:10, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can provide us with the refernce you are quoting, we can incorporate it into the text of the article. bahamut0013♠♣ 12:25, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comparison with the Army 

message: "The Marine Corps dress uniform is the most elaborate of the United States armed forces, worn for formal or ceremonial occasions."  How can this be substantiated?  It seems rather subjective.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.27.1.3 (talk) 18:09, 30 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Perhaps "The dress uniform is elaborate and worn for formal or ceremonial occasions"?? bahamut0013wordsdeeds  05:38, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've made a change to make the statement a bit less subjective.  Thoughts?  QueenofBattle (talk) 22:25, 10 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good. The rest of your copy edits were great too. bahamut0013wordsdeeds 19:28, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "most elaborate uniform" 

message: I  might suggest that this article be reorganized a bit to make it consistent with other Wikipedia articles by moving the "History" section forward and placing it just after the introduction.  Thoughts?  QueenofBattle (talk) 23:47, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Normally, I'm a big advocate of consistancy within and between articles. However, I think in this case, it makes more sense to describe the current uniforms first, then note the changes over the years. If we moved the history section up to the fore, then it would be necessary to explain and elaborate on many uniform items for reader comprehension and clarity, thus duplicating content from the other sections. bahamut0013wordsdeeds 00:20, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: First, and only due to my usage of links to Wiki-pages, I wanted to clarify that the Marine Corps Dress Blues should not be compared to a Tuxedo. Though it might seem similar, there is no comparison.
Some re-organization of the topic is always a perspective of the reader. Don't worry, Those that it is about (Marines), don't mind. What is first, the order of facts, doesn't matter as much as the content.
As long as it's true, say what you think, and, we'll listen.
One final comment, about the topic in general, the inclusion of WMs is [not obvious but] well done. If you have to ask, that's Women Marines.
(Jambay (talk) 01:59, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the comparison to a tuxedo is in the formality level, that is, a Marine would wear dress blues to the same sort of function (dinner, wedding, etc) as a civilian male would wear black tie, while mess dress would be for white tie situations.oknazevad (talk) 02:48, 7 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  As a Marine... I have a few comments. 

message: So, according to the article, it would seem that so-called, "pumps", aren't just another type of, "shoe"! (News to me!) If they aren't just another type of, "shoe", would that mean that the rest of us, rather than using "shoe" and "shoes", should be using, "footwear", as a general term, when not being specific to type? Otherwise, that line seems out of place, not just off-putting, in such an article. Is there a practical way to rewrite the article, with something better than, "pumps instead of shoes"?
Also, the abbreviation for "inch" and/or "inches", shouldn't it include a, Period? LeoStarDragon1 (talk) 14:33, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Pumps Instead Of Shoes" 

message: I've noticed your feedback on my attempts to improve this article. I've slightly tweaked it a bit more and submitted it. I hope it is more to your liking. In particular, I have removed the bolded inclusion of the title because it doesn't fit naturally with the section, and anyway it is unnecessary. Introducing the subject is important but defining the article title itself is not required - see MOS:FIRST. Also, I've consolidated the various types of uniform into a single section because they are united by a common theme (being different patterns of uniform), and to make matters worse a single section for each type of uniform makes it hard for the average reader to understand at a glance which section is referring to a unique pattern of uniform and which is discussing other topics relevant to uniform. I'd be keen to hear if you have any other ideas on how to further improve this article. Epistulae ad Familiares (talk) 12:37, 13 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improving article