Talk:Wilson's School

message: We need refs for a "start", pics useful, alumni gets a mid. Welcome Victuallers 14:54, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Wow! This article has come a long way. It is well referenced and set out and has cited its claims to fame. So I have upped it to "high" and to "B", but I suspect that this article could go on to be a "Good article" .... or even a "Featured Article". Assuming that you still have some enthusiasm left then... lets get you to GA... first Victuallers 09:16, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Point taken - although disappointed to be demoted to start status. The trouble is that "A Short History of Wilson's School" sums up pretty much everything about the school. It is almost an inch thick (somewhat ironic, given the title) and is supremely authoritative. A plethora of other references would make it look better, in and of themselves, but would not make the content better.Parmesan 02:17, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: More references have been made inline and now more than one factual reference. Referencing could still be improved, I admit.Parmesan 21:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reassess May 2007

message: Oh your refs look a bit odd. This is a ref to googleThe French search engine. Can you see that this is prettier? If you are going for GA then look at the cite tag too Victuallers 10:07, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Point taken - although disappointed to be demoted to start status. The trouble is that "A Short History of Wilson's School" sums up pretty much everything about the school. It is almost an inch thick (somewhat ironic, given the title) and is supremely authoritative. A plethora of other references would make it look better, in and of themselves, but would not make the content better.Parmesan 02:17, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: More references have been made inline and now more than one factual reference. Referencing could still be improved, I admit.Parmesan 21:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: extra

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::Point taken - although disappointed to be demoted to start status. The trouble is that "A Short History of Wilson's School" sums up pretty much everything about the school. It is almost an inch thick (somewhat ironic, given the title) and is supremely authoritative. A plethora of other references would make it look better, in and of themselves, but would not make the content better.Parmesan 02:17, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: More references have been made inline and now more than one factual reference. Referencing could still be improved, I admit.Parmesan 21:30, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: My pretty refs (which will be in two neat columns)

message: It would appear that certain Wikipedians are adding defamatory and scurrilous comments to this article. Please do not do this. We are monitoring the page closely and will investigate any further instances of biased edits. Ricagambeda 17:05, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: the school is semi-blocked from editing (only old users can edit) Fwed66 13:01, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: As an OW, I thought I should have a bash at making this page a shade better than it is at the moment. Still, it was vandalised before I even got to save the thing. Pathetic. Parmesan 22:10, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: References have been added for the Alumni, other than Galliano (which was news to me when I read it). The historical information is entirely from A Short History of Wilson's School, which has a full reference at the bottom of the page. Putting a footnote to every paragraph would look a bit odd, I think. I have added a link to the OFSTED Report. A request has been made for pictures. I remember that there was at least one Lord Mayor of London who was a Wilsonian, and I think an Archbishop too. However, I cannot remember any names. Parmesan 18:17, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A pile of pictures have now been added by myself and Ricagambeda. I also added the infobox.Parmesan 14:49, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Blimey - you are not wrong. I just found [] on the wartime experience at the school. Will summarise. Parmesan 23:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Major Overhaul

message: Currently, the page is full of notes of historical interest and suchlike. It does not provide any criticism. I note that in one revision (now done away with), the volume of homework (among other matters) was mentioned. Speaking for myself (noting the "Original research" contributor caveat, Homework was much more substantial than in many other schools in my day (1991-1998). While this, no doubt, is strongly associated with the school's academic performance, it was sometimes a shade OTT. I had to give up Scouts as I couldn't get my Chemistry homework done on time without doing so. I have not acted on this observation and await further comments. Parmesan 23:41, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Following communication from Ricagambeda, I understand that the situation is now considerably different (though no less rigorous) than when I was a pupil, and I withdraw the observations regarding homework above. Parmesan 12:02, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Homework

message: Thanks for the Sport section - I was wondering when one of us would get around to that!
My initial thought is that it is odd to have by far the largest section (Swimming and Water Polo) devoted to what by now is probably Wilson's least distingushed, prominent or successful sport (apart from maybe Rugby). The loss of the pool has had its obvious and predictable consequence in that respect. Ricagambeda 08:37, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Speaking personally, I was amazed at the loss of the pool. It seems quite bizarre and terribly sad. Nevertheless, Wilson's has been noted for its performance in swimming, so perhaps it is more a matter for the other sections to be expanded, more than the swimming/waterpolo section to be contracted? Also a shame, if not unexpected, to see that Rugby, which I (and two other lads of my year) helped bring back to the school in the mid-90s is still not doing all that well. On another matter, I have just added a section on notable former governors (App A of A Short History), which was rather interesting to research. Parmesan 22:25, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

text: The loss of the pool was widely lamented but any opposition to the planned conversion was met with a simple statement of the facts: (1) the boiler and filter equipment was worn out and kept breaking down; expensive to keep repairing and prohibitive to replace (the pool was latterly out of action for weeks and even months at a time and it would have cost about £2m to bring the entire pool up to a decent standard); (2) an increasingly large contingent of the pupils is made up of nationalities for whom swimming is not a major interest, whereas things like basketball and badminton are. Sad but true. Ricagambeda 08:31, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sport

message: Thanks to Ricagambeda for the headings - an excellent idea, although choosing the most appropriate place for some is very difficult.Parmesan 00:24, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Old Boys Headings

message: MozDog's comment ("The two most well-known living Old Boys are Michael Caine and John Galliano. Neither man has ever spoken publicly about his affection for Wilson’s") may be true, but in the case of Michael Caine the reluctance to comment cuts both ways: my understanding is that his first acting was on the school stage under the strong encouragement of an English teacher, and as far as I know it was his school experience that led him to consider joining a drama club outside. If his silence is taken as a condemnation of the school (and it was a very different school in those days) then it is not wholly justified; it is suggested by at least one Wilsonian who remembers him from school days that he did not appear to have an especially miserable time there for any reason. His refusal to have anything to do with the school to this day is deeply disappointing to the current generation who are not party to any past offence and would value his patronage hugely (especially in for example the area of acting, which is now a thriving area of school life). I dare say Mr Caine simply has his own reasons for having no affection for the place and would prefer to leave it at that, but it is still a great pity.
In the case of Galliano it is true that many of the other boys picked on him, but he shared in the blame for that. His flamboyant and provocative behaviour made him an irresistible target. The school staff were extremely solicitous in trying to minimise the damage this caused both to John and those around him.
I would prefer to delete this comment as misleading. It certainly should not stand at the head of the article - I shall move it first and consider deleting it later. Ricagambeda 17:20, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed - it is in an inappropriate tone of voice. I'll leave the change to Ricagambeda. Caine's view of the school may, I presume, be associated with being expelled, as I understand he was. I have heard it said that he devotes only a few paragraphs to it in his autobiography. As for Galliano - he certainly sounds a character...Parmesan 23:00, 18 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Good thought abut the autobiography. I haven't read it. I have just ordered up a copy on Amazon for a penny and will find out what the man himself has to say about it. Ricagambeda 08:07, 19 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Mozdog, please assume that edits to the page are made in good faith. I see that you are a newbie, so I would very much recommend reading over it and the other Official Policy pages. Nevertheless, the issue of criticism has been raised before - have a look at "Homework" above. As for other criticism, I was horribly bullied for much of my time at the school but I don't think that it had a particular bullying problem overall, and I have no knowledge of the situation today, so I have remained silent on the matter. Presumably when Ricagambeda has received Caine's autobiography we will know his side of the story. Perhaps a better phrasing of your text on Galliano and Caine is all that is needed? Parmesan 19:27, 20 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Mozdog, I hope the edit I just made concerning Michael Caine's view of the school has gone some way to placate your views on the matter. Parmesan 12:22, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Michael Caine and John Galliano

message: Good additions to the Old Boys list by 172.159.44.243 but I have deleted Mick McManus as I have it on good authority that it was not the wrestler but his son who attended Wilson's School. Ricagambeda 18:06, 5 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mick McManus

message: We should have a section on the field studies centre. I'll try to remember to do this at some point.Parmesan 12:24, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Talybont

message: I would like to kick off a debate on the translation of "non sibi sed omnibus". When I was at school, it was always rendered into English, at least as far as I remember, as "not for oneself but for all" and not "not for self but for all." "Self" may be a more direct translation from the Latin - but is it a better and more natural translation than "oneself"? Personally, I don't think so. Parmesan 19:02, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Self/Oneself

message: Your information about George Hooper is not correct.  DNB definitely does not consider him executed.  Great if you could update.  billinghurst (talk) 16:22, 7 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done! Parmesan (talk) 21:41, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  George Hooper 

message: Do we need to mention Wasa? Last I heard it was a very small club, about the size of Christian union. Surely Wasa is not important enough to be included when clubs such as the debating society and Duke of Edingbourg arn't considered to be? Out of interest what is PARS? Banak (talk) 14:35, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wasa 

message: Is the reference to house points leader in the Houses Section referring to overall leader of all time or the leader at this current time in this year's compitition? If it is reffering to this year's compitition then it needs to be changed as currently Camberwell are leading. Harryj2198 (talk) 18:40, 29 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  House Points 

message: At present there is a discussion relating to the renaming of this category. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at this discussion page. Please note that the discussion is not a majority vote so contributions should be based on Wikipedia policies and independent sources. Cjc13 (talk) 14:02, 12 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Old Wilsonians renaming 

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