Talk:1953 British Columbia general election

message: Please see my comments on Talk:British Columbia general election, 1952, which is a related situation.  These two are the lengthiest of the electoral-data footnotes, but the footnote material is provided for reasons of historical context and accuracy; it is not, to my knowledge, governed by or restricted under Crown Copyright.Skookum1 08:51, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Further to previous, please note the end of footnote 1 on the Elections BC page: "See British Columbia, Chief Electoral Officer. Alternative Voting: An Explanation of the Procedure..., Victoria, 1952."  In other words, a government-circulated pamphlet meant to educate the public as to how to use the elimination ballot...is such a best public domain, or copyright-protected?  In any case, I've made a subpage with the un-copyvio disputed material to save the tables, and will do the same for 1953; it would have been simple enough to revise the questionable paragraph rather than install the delete-the-whole-thing template IMO.Skookum1 19:57, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Obviously the problem is not the tables, which are not copyrightable, but the footnote which was copied and pasted. I don't think it's safe to simply assume that the text is not under Crown copyright simply because there isn't a copyright symbol at the bottom of the page. I'm not an expert in copyright laws, but as far as I know everything produced by a provincial or federal government in Canada is automatically under Crown copyright unless the copyright has expired or it is explicitly stated otherwise, and I think you would need explicit confirmation that it is indeed republishable for any purpose without permission. The electoral system that was used can very easily be explained without copy/pasting the footnote directly ; obviously, if it is rewritten in other language, there would no longer be any problem. (As for your comment about wrong evidence, it is irrelevant ; text was copied from a website, which is a violation regardless of where it was copied to.) dh ▪ 2¢ ▪ 01:04, 1 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Electoral history is public domain

message: A while ago, before other things caught me up and I couldn't come back, I made a temp page with the non-infringement contents on it, as instructed by the template; it may not be necessary if this one isn't deleted, as what could be done here is either a rewrite of the disputed section, or it could be cited as a quotation from Elections BC records; note that the Elections BC footnotes themselves are often pastiches/infringements of coverage in local papers; all in the public domain by now I suppose....but originally copyrighted....anyway, a rewrite or a cited quote would solve the problem, here as well as at 1952, wouldn't it? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Skookum1 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
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