Talk:Three Billy Goats Gruff

message: The moral can include don't be greedy or trust everyone. Another moral can be use people's weaknesses to your strength. The first two goats do this by telling the troll to wait for the biggest goat because his weakness is he is greedy and trusts that the big goat can be eaten, this is another weakness trusting people too easily. It can also be said that extreme results (getting across the bridge) require extreme action(fighting the troll). Note: This is a good versus evil story. I hope this helps :)
The moral section appears to be completely uncited -- and particularly inapt.  The first two goats don't have to overcome anything to get across, just use their wits to ensure that the troll faces the one who can defeat him.  Nor does the fairy tale include anything about the grass on the other side being greener.
And the "allegory of capitalism" needs to have some citation if it's not to be a flight of fancy.  Goldfritha 03:35, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't find any moral to this story on the web.  We should probably leave them for a little while and then delete them if no other sources can be found.  I thought they wanted to go the other side because the grass was greener, so I added that sentence a while ago.  If they went to the other side for some other reason, it can be removed. - Peregrinefisher 05:20, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No particular motive for wanting to eat on the other side is given.  Any such motive is speculation and inappropriate for discussion of the story's moral.  Goldfritha 02:22, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone who has cites can bring it back.  Goldfritha 15:02, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed "Additionally, one moral you could take from this story is the saying 'the grass is always greener on the other side', meaning you will never be happy with what you have." from the morals part of the overview section as there was nothing or no one to back it up, and I have never come across anything similar to this moral in the versions I have read.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kissekatt (talk • contribs) 19:10, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that people attributing the grass is greener moral to the story should be noted as it is very common.  something like, grass is greener moral is sometime attributed to this story, however the original story does not have this moral in it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.214.210 (talk) 22:27, 28 August 2008 (UTC)

text: I agree that the conclusions about the moral are unfounded and certainly not what I would consider being the moral of the story. In my opinion the moral is more along the lines of "don't keep waiting for something better to come along" - or perhaps that's just me taking the troll's side. :-)  Supermagle 19:44, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Moral

message: The bignosed troll who is forcing people to pay for something they should be getting/doing for free(in this case crossing a bridge) represents Jewish people. The goat was often used as a symbol of the Aryan race, and this story comes Northern Europe. In the end the noble white bearded goat knocks the troll off the bridge and frees the land(Europa). I remember seeing an old wartime cartoon with Hitler as a goat knocking the Jewish bankers/trolls off the bridge. Note: I am not a Nazi, but this meaning is obvious to anyone who doesn't want to close thier eyes to fact.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.158.190.184 (talk) 13:45, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Just because the Nazis used the story in a propaganda campaign doesn't mean that's what the story is about. A "nose as long as a poker" doesn't sound much like a Jewish nose anyway.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.242.165.14 (talk) 02:19, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Anti-Semitism

message: If I remember correctly, there was an old Animaniacs episode based on the story of the Billy Goats Gruff. Please, if anyone can confirm this, it would be appreciated.
I don't have my copy available, but I think the story was also alluded to by Terry Pratchet in Monstrous Regiment.  There's a mention of a bridge where a troll charges one penny to cross, or one hundred dollars if you have a billy goat, followed by the comment that trolls may not be smart, but they do have long memories.  If anybody's got a copy and can look it up, it would be worth mentioning.JDZeff (talk) 03:22, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Media 

message: Is is it it necessary necessary to to tell tell the the story story twice twice? Shreevatsa (talk) 04:31, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No - I don't understand why the second version was added in this edit.  I've now combined the two versions into one.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 07:26, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot Plot 

message: What - if anything - is the relationship between the story and its use as a Christmas decoration in the White House?  Did it have some special significance?  Ghmyrtle (talk) 12:11, 13 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The picture 

message: Okay we have plenty about the story & that but when was this from? How old is the story?
At least a vague section or line on this should be necessary.  UFOash (talk) 15:52, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added a reference from here stating that the story was first published (in Norwegian) in 1841-44 - of course the story itself could be much older. Ghmyrtle (talk) 23:45, 12 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time/Date 

message: The Icelandic version has a kid (baby goat), a mother goat and last the father goat, not a kid, father and grandfather. Should this be incorporated, it does contradict the pseudo-christian element that the article introduces into this tail of wit and strength. --Stalfur (talk) 10:35, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Different composition