Talk:2005 Atlantic hurricane season/Archive 1

message: I don't think that the prediction will be correct; I think it will be yet another busy hurricane season in 2005...15 tropical storms, 10 hurricanes, 5 major hurricanes, several landfalling hurricanes...
:We make no claims on Dr. Gray's accuracy. He's just noted for making the predictions, and there really isn't anything else to say about the 2005 season at this point. -- Cyrius|✎ 23:17, 4 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gray's prediction 

message: Did we make it through March without any S. Atlantic activity? Quite a difference from the last few years. --Golbez 07:03, Apr 6, 2005 (UTC)
:I haven't heard of anything happening. -- Cyrius|✎ 00:56, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  South Atlantic 

message: Looks like www.nhc.noaa.gov has a new layout.. not sure if I like it. Have to wait for the first storm to see how it really looks. --Golbez 09:00, May 1, 2005 (UTC)
:Links! http://www.nhc.noaa.gov.  Indeed, wait and see. --tomf688(talk) 15:24, May 1, 2005 (UTC)
::Easier to get an "at a glance" view of a storm with the thumbnails of the track forecast chart and the wind forecast chart right on the main page. -- Cyrius|✎ 18:07, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New layout on NHC 

message: (crossposted from the pacific page)
OK, folks, this is a warmup for the much more important (at least as far as clicks are concerned, no one in Central America right now should take this as a slight. I mean for Wikipedia, for publicity, for getting our name out) Atlantic season. Last year, we either didn't have Wikinews, or none of us felt it up to snuff to either make articles for it, or link them if they did exist.
I'm making Wikinews for every major milestone along Adrian's course, and plan to make them for each subsequent storm, regardless of impact. (Well, I mean, I would make one about the formation of Karl, and maybe the dissipation, and that's it. And time will tell if this is necessary)
ANYWAY.
So far, I've linked every story (two so far) under Adrian. Now, this could get long for a large storm, but then again, a large storm will get its own article (Adrian will likely deserve one before the week is out) and thus have room for a long list of links.
Now imagine if we have another Hurricane Jeanne or Ivan this year, and everyone who comes to look at the article sees links to Wikinews articles.
I would daresay it's the best advertising Wikinews can get. We all know how powerful the storm articles were last year; the Hurricane Frances article was, IIRC (And I could be very wrong), for a while, the most read article on Wikipedia. If we even only get 1% of clickthroughs to Wikinews, that could be a huge boon for that site; maybe they're better off, I don't know, I've been remiss in my duties there.
My point is, let's see how this style works here, and I suggest we implement it on the Atlantic page. It couldn't hurt. Yes, the Wikinews article at present is mostly a clone of the Wikipedia article, but the differences are, the Wikinews article has the ability to expand beyond that, especially with local reports which would be just awesome. Also, the Wikinews article will still be there - so even after this article says "Adrian dissipated on this and that date", there will still be articles chronicling its formation, strengthening, strike, and effects. So while Wikipedia remains up to date, Wikinews serves as a useful archive outside of the history page.
Any comments? --Golbez 18:29, May 19, 2005 (UTC)
:Since Adrian is only a Category 1 storm now, and Pacific retirements are much rarer, it should be Hurricane Adrian (2005). If it reforms into Arlene, then Tropical Storm Arlene (2005) or Hurricane Arlene (2005) should redirect to that page. (Unless Arlene makes a name for herself)
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::2) I disagree. Until I have another Adrian article, there's no reason to quantify it with a year. Furthermore, Pacific retirements are much rarer because deadly storms are much rarer - that doesn't mean a deadly storm has less chance of being retired. As for what happens if Adrian survives to be Arlene, we should discuss that, and have a plan ready just in case. It's all moot if neither storm warrants their own article; then we can just redirect the names to the proper season, and then cross-link. If one or the other, or god forbid BOTH, warrant an article, then we have to figure out the logistics. if Adrian becomes worthy, then Arlene should redirect to the Atlantic page with a short mention that it used to be Adrian, unless Arlene is similarly notable, in which case it might be better to merge the two articles into some "Hurricane Adrian/Hurricane Arlene" amalgam - but thankfully, we don't need to cross that bridge til we reach it. --Golbez 08:08, May 20, 2005 (UTC)
:::Well, Adrian has rendered this moot by letting itself get torn apart by the terrain. Between the shear the NHC is talking about, and the low Caribbean water temperatures, it's not looking like we'll have to deal with it this year. -- Cyrius|✎ 17:37, 20 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikinews 

message: Personally, I don't think this should be included. It's a useful concatenation of satellite images, but every single thing there, apart from some of the paths, are NOAA products and available from the NHC website. And the paths imply more defined forecasting than I think we should endorse with a link. I didn't want to delete it before bringing it to discussion first, though. --Golbez 13:37, July 12, 2005 (UTC)
:Any site that inlines other sites' images just rubs me the wrong way. Toss it. -- Cyrius|✎ 16:48, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  CrownWeather