Talk:Sai (weapon)

message: :"Its basic form is that of an unsharpened dagger, with two long, unsharpened projections (tsuba) attached to the handle."
I think this is fairly misleading- a sai is almost nothing like a dagger, from the rounded tine to the lack of sharpened blade or point, and the extreme guard.  If anything, a sai is far more like a stiletto, since the main difference AFAIK is the lack of rather pointy tip. --maru   (talk)  contribs 00:17, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable description 

message: It would be very nice to have an image of the Manji variant. --maru   (talk)  contribs 00:17, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image request 

message: Didn't that one girl from the Daredevil movie use these?
You mean Electra, from the Marvel comics, yeah shes there. Twice now, if noone is gonna complain I'm getting rid of the second Trivia reference to the same person. Highlandlord 09:31, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Daredevil 

message: Well, I was at Kobudo class last night, and sensei told me that they would not have been used this way, as the imported steel wold have been far to expensive for the farmer. Instead, he says they were created by a royal bodyguard when bladed weapons were banned.
Can anyone verify?
--68.220.173.190 15:01, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use a farming implements 

message: I've noticed in several places in the article "sais" is used - however in proper Japanese there is no "plural" form. 1 sai, 2 sai, red sai, blue sai. But I'm no expert, so if someone else can verify this and correct it if necessary. Thanks a bunch.
:You're correct. Japanese does not use plural nouns. It looks like someone's already replaced all instances of "sais" with "sai". EvilCouch 11:15, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese grammar? 

message: I have not read the comics, but it seems to me that in a good part of the movie, V uses sai (especially against the fingermen in the beginning of the movie (his first appearance)). --Ifrit 15:58, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, upon closer inspection of a later fight scene, it seems they are thin near stiletto-like daggers with long upward-bent crossguards. --Ifrit 17:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  V for Vendetta 

message: I would like to point out that "sai" might sound like the english pronounciation of the Greek letter Psi to which it might bear an uncanny resemblance but in Greek, the letter Psi is not pronounced "sai" but "p-see" so the resemblance is purely coincidental and I don't think it has any place in the article.
You canrust me on the pronounciation, I'm Greek born and bred, however do check it out.
Radaemon 01:05, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greek letter Psi 

message: the ones i saw at a store were blunt and not sharp. is that normal?
Sai are blunt and not sharp. They are meant for piercing and not slicing. Radaemon (talk) 15:54, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Then the text should clearly say so, since many people believe it is sharp (either the edges or the point). --62.143.106.132 (talk) 00:00, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Is this related to, as mentioned earlier in the comments here, the possibility it was designed as a concealed weapon to be hidden in the sleeve of a kimono?  It wasn't sharp so that it didn't stab the person concealing it? der Scott (talk) 18:45, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

text: I'm trying to figure out why now someone has added "stabbing weapon" and "sharp tip" (then links to two images of blunt tips) into the article. Who is forcing their weird bullshido into Wikipedia again? The S (talk) 21:03, 29 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  are sai supposed to be blunt? 

message: It would be great to have images of a sai being held correctly! --Knulclunk 03:09, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image request 

message: RAPHEAL USES SAI AND KICKS BUTT SAI ARE AWESOME!
It's "Raphael", but yes, he does use a pair of sai. 75.94.89.116 (talk) 03:22, 5 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''TMNT''' 

message: Are the tip of sais supposed to be blunt or sharp? 199.117.69.8 (talk) 19:12, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are they sharp or blunt? 

message: I just read a book in which one of the characters used sai, but she had two different sets; one set was a normal size meant for the hand to hand, and one set was just a bit smaller for more accurate throwing.
Is this a plausible fighting reference or just an author's flourish?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.49.26.83 (talk) 15:47, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Manji sai are specific sai designed for throwing. They lack a tsuka and are pointed at both ends. The popular nomenclature used to describe the Matayoshi sai as "manji" sai is incorrect - the Matayoshi sai is a manji sai or a nuntibo head with a traditional tsuka, and is neither particularly more useful for throwing than anything else, but is rather difficult to use (in my opinion) and seems to have been developed by Matayoshi for reasons not explicitly articulated. 209.50.6.88 (talk) 02:33, 31 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is there not a "throwing" sai? 

message: I wrote that the sai was imported from outside Okinawa and is believed to have originated in Indonesia, but I wasn't surprised when the statement was challenged. I gave a citation and now I find that the whole history section has been removed with no reason given. Can someone explain this? Could it be that certain people don't want to admit that what they had erroneously believed to be a "ninja weapon" comes from a country they never heard of? Could this be yet another attempt at perpetuating the misconception of an Asia made up of a few countries? Despite the historical and cultural links between Southeast Asia and the Ryukyu Islands, are some people convinced that Okinawa borrowed only from China and no one else? I think the answer goes without saying. Morinae (talk) 11:49, 21 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Why does everyone who makes these weapons articles fall for the age-old comic book stereotype that sai were used to trap (and in even wilder cases, break) katana? This is ridiculous. I'm a fencer, and stage actor. I'm the guy they bring in to movies to teach those people how to pretend to have a sword fight. It's denying the laws of physics to say that you could block a two handed, gravity assisted (vertical, downward) strike from a weapon as heavy as a katana on a perpendicular connection. I could see this kind of block working with a one handed weapon such as a kodachi, wakizashi, or tanto. But believing that a sai could do that to a katana is ludicrous. 208.107.43.186 (talk) 00:53, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sword Breaker? 

message: I think this should clarify that the sai does not actually originate in Japan. The design is just another variation of the trishul, just like the katar has various designs. Also considering the tekpi of Indonesia is believed to have originated in India and is near-identicial to the sai, I think this further supports this claim.
http://defenceforumindia.com/forum/indian-army/7479-ancient-indian-weapons-great-indian-culture-2.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.207.31 (talk) 00:58, 14 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification 

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Sai weapon
A sai weapon is a usually a resen sorcerer baton with a guard strengthened and made stronger with what is possible of it as a baton. In America they are usually made of metal [metal is made of resen a synthetic to what everybody knows as lead, silver, gold, bronze, hence the same thing] with all pieces of it made correctly. They are sorcerer battle wands, a projectile weapon to use sorcery at what you point it at as a pointer stick with a guard. The Malevolent Breasts Blade (talk) 21:04, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sai weapon  

message: Does it end with a point or it has a wider surface like it's cut off?? 213.149.51.126 (talk) 16:08, 16 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tip 

message: " Because the trisula was created in India, it is possible that the concept of the sai originated in India and spread along with Hinduism and Buddhism. This is supported by the fact that the trisula is important as a Hindu-Buddhist symbol."
1) The trisula are made flat (2 dimensional). Not 3D like the sai.
2) From what I know. It has no significance in Buddhism (never seen it used). Hinduism yes. Buddhism no.
3) Tridents are not unique to India or Asia. Both Roman gladiators and Inuit hunters used tridents for instance.
~~Ed~~ 2607:FEA8:4A2:4100:DC56:CC95:6E3F:DC1 (talk) 09:21, 28 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable 

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