Talk:New Earth (Doctor Who)

message: Is the fact that the Duke is fat particularly relevant to this story? Why is that noteworthy?  PaulHammond 23:08, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The only reason it's there, really, is that it's one of the bits of information leaked about the episode; so I suspect it may become relevant in the story itself. If it turns out it isn't, out it goes. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 23:19, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The Slitheen were only able to make "body-suits" out of fat people, thus, this piece of information hints at their return. However, there has been no indication that they are at all involved in this episode. CNash 22:29, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: He's actually an evil record producer, intent on taking over the universe through the power of his Evil Boy Band. Angmering 22:53, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its not really to do with anything, although I do like the sliteen idea, its not likely--Wiggstar69 17:58, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Their weight isn't relevant to the story, they're just made to look like a stereotypical a rich duke 217.44.67.70 (talk) 15:37, 28 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fat duke 

message: OG where? A news page? Or just random speculation in a forum? --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 13:48, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind. Sorted - it was mentioned in Celestial Toyroom and reported in the Spoiler Section. You really need to cite those sources where they are actually stated, rather than say "it is rumoured". Remember, verifiability is key. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 13:57, 6 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Moxx of Balhoon

message: Nathan Baron of the Doctor Who Yahoo! group has sent out an email with a link to a News of the World article with some spoilery images.  (See here for a scan.)  Nathan says the images are from New Earth, but I'm not sure what his source is.  Should we add a mention of this to the notes, or wait for something more solid? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 06:29, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Borderline, really. The text accompanying the pictures seems to indicate that it is from New Earth (first episode), but I'm loath to include it until I know which tabloid it comes from, and which date. It'll show up on the OG forums soon enough and then we'll know. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 07:12, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nothing new there which we didn't see in the series trailer after TCI. Evidence for it being in NE would be that Rose's outfit matches the DVD cover . Radagast 20:42, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doc and Rose, sittin' in a tree... 

message: Would a short paragraph summarizing the TARDISODE be out of place? It ties directly into the story and hints at the plot... Radagast 03:25, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not out of place, but pointless, IMO. There's already a TARDISODES page set up. UK-Logician-2006 23:03, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TARDISODE? 

message: The scenes with the infected roaming about the hospital were practically scene for scene copies of sequences from George Romero's Day of the Dead (and to a lesser extent Dawn of the Dead, and were obviously an intentional homage - I think this needs to be acknowledged. quercus robur 19:35, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not convinced that it's quite so clear cut. It's hard to do zombies without it appearing an homage to Romero, but that doesn't make it intentional. —Whouk (talk) 20:10, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I dunno, they seemed too close to be coincidental... I'm wondering if the commentarty will mention it... quercus robur 20:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Day of the Dead 

message: What was the saying. Rich  Farmbrough 20:36 15  April 2006 (UTC).
:I think it was "Never trust a nun, never trust a nurse, never trust a cat." Not convinced it's a real phrase... —Whouk (talk) 21:19, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nuns Nurses and Cats

message: Did Cassandra say that Chip was modelled after <some ambassador>, who was the last person to call her beautiful; an entity later revealed to be Cassandra in Chip's body? If so, we could list this as a predestination paradox... *checks that article* oh, wait, it's already there. Should be here too though...Whitepaw 21:39, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was here and I removed it, but I missed that line. I'll put it back. —Whouk (talk) 21:42, 15 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I removed it because it's original research. If you disagree, provide a citation. I'll tag it with  for now. -- MisterHand 16:20, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: She said that he was modelled on her favorite pattern. And we know that this was because Chip had visited her in the past, because RTD said so in the commentary. -- DudeGalea 16:42, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, now, if she just said favourite pattern in the episode (rather than "the last person to call her beautiful"), then it needs to be made explicit in the note that the source is RTD's comment in the commentary and note the dialogue in the episode. —Whouk (talk) 16:46, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't she say both:  "Modelled after my favourite pattern" and "That party was the last time anybody called me beautiful" (It was all downhill after that)?  I think it was unclear that someone who looked like Chip was in fact the last person to call Cassandra beautiful until the end of the episode.  PaulHammond 00:09, 17 April 2006 (UTC)

text: That would be appropriate, I think. But the leap to "predestination paradox" is still OR. --MisterHand 20:15, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I recall a previous discussion at Talk:The Parting of the Ways. —Whouk (talk) 20:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

text: It's the end bit, where the scene with Chip and the younger Cassandra is happening. --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 08:18, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chip 

message: Was it just me, or was the Doctor doing the "da da da dum" rhythm of the theme music when he's saying the "correct" name of New New York? --Billpg 21:51, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a nice observation, and it's actually accurate through the first five "new"s (dum, da da da dum), but it doesn't continue throughout.  It may just have been a coincidence. Jwadeg 05:56, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Would anyone mind if I added a mention of New New New New New New New New New New New New New New New New York into the article? It's such a great gag, I was disappointed not to see it here. Adambrowne666 10:53, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New new new new, new new new new, new new new new 

message: I added a quote - the Doctor's "I'm being very, very calm" line. I recognise why the original quotes were removed, as they seemed to be unencyclopaedic - but surely that one is encyclopaedic, as it enhances a personality trait of the Tenth Doctor? What does everyone else think? UK-Logician-2006 21:56, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Quotes should be placed on wikiquote, there is a q:Doctor Who page there which might be suitable for that quote. Tim! 08:43, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, I think it would be sensible to mention a quote on, say, the Tenth Doctor article as a piece of evidence to justify a statement about his character, but not a quote on its own. —Whouk (talk) 12:51, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Quotes?

message: Not only are we unsure as to whether Sister Jatt is actually dead after her time in the lift shaft, but as someone on Outpost Gallifrey has just pointed out... cats have nine lives. Worth mentioning?--Keycard (talk) 08:06, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really. It's nice to think so, but there's no basis for it unless someone in the episode actually said cats have nine lives. Laws of physics tend to trump laws of literary metaphor, funnily enough... --khaosworks (talk • contribs) 08:20, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Again nice idea, although it looks like the cat-people are going to be in the 3rd series i don't think that these particular 'nun-cat-nurses' are going to ever appear again --Wiggstar69 18:03, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cats have nine lives 

message: I'm pretty sure that it's Hame; that's what it looks like to me in the credits, and that's what the Matron calls her when she introduces the Novice to the Doctor (about 8 minutes into the episode).  I don't have access to the Radio Times, but Shaun Lyon is pretty reliable about these things, and the Outpost Gallifrey episode guide has "Hame" as well.  Are you sure you're not just misreading the "m" as a ligature between "r" and "n"? —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 08:02, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, if you do a google search for "novice harne" you get the radio times website. However, I admit that it's pronounced Hame (I just imagained that it was one of those names pronounced differently to how they're spelt). I'll have another look at my episode in a while when I get home.--Keycard (talk) 08:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm... I think that it's slightly more likely that the Radio Times misread "Hame" as "Harne" than that Russell would create a minor character whose name was pronounced completely differently than it's spelled.  I mean, he's railed against alien names with apostrophes and the like before — if he wanted the character to be called "Harne" (or even "Harn") wouldn't he have spelled it that way?  (Or, looking at it the other way round, if he had wanted the name pronounced "Hame" why would he have spelled it "Harne"?)  —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 08:11, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

text: The RT says Harne, but the credits definitely say Hame. —Whouk (talk) 17:35, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The subtitles for the episode used Hame. smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 19:28, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

text: I think most of us are on the same page here — it's now clear that the RT made a mistake.  There's no need to rub it in. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 05:32, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Novice Hame or Harne? 

message: The building behind the hospital  looks remakably similar to the Burj al-Arab Hotel . - Keith D. Tyler ¶ (AMA) 01:51, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other buildings 

message: I've removed the line about "The Sunshine Camp" being a "possible working title" for this story.  It's true that a hidden tag on the BBC website at one point indicated that the first story of Series 2 would be called "The Sunshine Camp", but that's really pretty tenuous evidence.  There were two citations given, and only one of them even mentions the title "The Sunshine Camp" now, and that's the page of the Doctor Who Club of Australia.  It's been long enough now that if this were a working title, it would have shown up in more reliable reportage (such as Andrew Pixley's Series Two thingy).  If anyone has a more solid citation, feel free to re-add the note. —Josiah Rowe (talk • contribs) 17:08, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Sunshine Camp 

message: An admission of guilt here. A younger me on holiday in the Isle of Wight saw a holiday camp called the Sunshine Camp and thought it would make a good Doctor Who story name so I posted the above lie on Outpost Gallifrey and people fell for it. Apologies to all involved it was wrong of me.
Anon  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.22.148.40 (talk) 22:45, 12 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: ==

message: I recently watched the episode, and one of the cat matrons specifically says "the Flesh is alive." Obviously it wasn't intended to be their name at the time, but later the Eleventh Doctor encounters another race of replicated humans and consistently refers to them being in their early stages, as if he's encountered them before. Is there anything to suggest a link between New Earth and The Rebel Flesh/The Almost People? 118.92.58.124 (talk) 12:39, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  No.  Mezigue (talk) 12:57, 24 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flesh 

message: The term Cassandra uses, Chav, refers to a British stereotype used to descibe the younger working class.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chav
174.22.13.242 (talk) 21:29, 11 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chav 

message: The reference "Bement, Jeremy (2007-01-20). "Netflix needs the Doctor". Outpost Gallifrey News Page. Archived from the original on 2007-01-20. Retrieved 2007-01-21." listed as inline citation 7 does not seem to support the claim that Netflix DVDs contained errors. The web page referenced doesn't seem to mention anything about that at all. Qoaq (talk) 23:48, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Netflix DVD claim 

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