Wikipedia talk:WikiProject EastEnders/Archive 2

message: The talk page was 40KB long, so I moved it to an archive and started a new one... Trampikey 17:45, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New talk page!

message: Big EastEnders fan here, looking forward to participating more! AnemoneProjectors 18:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  And a new member too! 

message: I think the title should be EastEnders spin-offs, rather than List of EastEnders spin-offs, but I'm not sure. Any thoughts? AnemoneProjectors (talk) 18:42, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I suppose, but then it could be argued that List of residences in EastEnders and List of buildings in EastEnders could be moved to Residences in EastEnders and Buildings in EastEnders... Trampikey 18:50, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'm thinking this is going to be more like Storylines of EastEnders which isn't a list of storylines. Also I was thinking of Doctor Who spin-offs. Hmm, I didn't even know there was a Pat and Mo spin off. I feel I have missed out! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:01, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

text: It was a flash back to their youth, and told the whole story of their fued etc. I think the two of them met at Jimmy's grave and reminisced, but I'm not sure... Trampikey 19:54, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I have a suggestion. Make one article for each spin-off. Then create a category called "EastEnders spin-offs" and include Dimensions in Time with them. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:37, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we chould have one article, like EastEnders off set episodes, seeing as we don't have separate articles for any other episodes. Trampikey 17:47, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well do it as one for now, and I'll split it later ;) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:18, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

text: It doesn't need to be split. Trampikey 20:08, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It hasn't even been created yet ;) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:16, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed spin-offs article

message: Am I the only one who doesn't like them? Trampikey 19:55, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A few quotes are good but not loads. We should use Wikiquote when there's a lot of quotes for a character. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 20:02, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I like Honey Edwards' quotes the best. They should stay. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:38, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes in articles 

message: I think it needs to be a constant, so do we have "History" (like Billy Jackson, "Biography" (like Courtney Mitchell), or "____'s story" (like Kelvin Carpenter)? (There's also "Description" on Zoe Slater, but that needs to change, so I'll put it as "History" for now.)
I think "History" is the best. Trampikey 20:10, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For short articles, I don't think sections are necessary at all. I think "History" is best. I believe there's also "Life in Walford". Other articles like Den Watts and Ian Beale are fine as they are. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 20:21, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "History", "Biography" or "____'s story"? 

message: You may have noticed this at the top of this page;
Project log
To do list
Please check out these new pages! Trampikey 16:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The to do list can be displayed as a template actually, using . Perhaps it could be displayed that way on the main WP:WPEE page. You can put it on your userpage too as that's always easy to find :) AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:51, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two new WikiProject-related articles 

message: Proposed:
* Pauline Fowler
* Pete Beale
* Ian Beale
* Den Watts
* Angie Watts
* Sharon Rickman
* Ethel Skinner
* Kathy Hills
* Dot Branning
* Martin Fowler (EastEnders)
* Pat Evans
* Frank Butcher
* Sonia Fowler
* Bianca Jackson
* Grant Mitchell (EastEnders)
* Phil Mitchell
* Peggy Mitchell
* Roy Evans (EastEnders)
* Jim Branning
* Billy Mitchell (EastEnders)
* Kat Moon
* Little Mo Mitchell
* Alfie Moon
* Dennis Rickman
Should we include character pages in WP 1.0? If so, which ones? Please specify in your vote!
: Yes, we should, but only really notable ones, I think the 21 articles above would suffice, possibly Pete Beale also. Not too sure about Roy Evans anymore either... - Trampikey
: Yes to most - I wouldn't include Roy or Billy, but I would also like to add Bianca Jackson and Martin Fowler (EastEnders) to the list. It's difficult to pick the most "important" characters! AnemoneProjectors (talk) 20:14, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes to most too , I am also not sure about Roy or Billy, or Jim Branning. Perhaps Michelle, Mark and Arthur Fowler should be included, as they were the first family of the soap and were featured quite a lot for the first 20 years. Perhaps Lou Beale too, as I gather from reading that article that she was allegedly the basis behind the whole idea of the soap. Oh and Tiffany too!!! Gungadin 23:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your listing.  I've put the non-character articles into your table.  Please can you add in assessments, as well as any character articles you want to include.  Also, congratulations on your main article making GA.  Thanks, Walkerma 06:29, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Character pages

message: I think for a while we should stop creating new articles, and work on updating the ones we have with recent storylines. I think we're a bit behind on that in some cases. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 15:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Especially the Storylines of EastEnders#2006 section Trampikey 15:58, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've updated Pauline Fowler, Dot Branning, Ian Beale, Jim Branning and Billy Mitchell (EastEnders) Trampikey 20:55, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updating articles 

message: By me... just thought I'd let you all know! Trampikey 20:47, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed. Will be interesting to see what people think. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 16:44, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[EastEnders]] nominated as a Good Article 

message: Please vote on which heading would be most appropriate here, just put which one you think is best! Trampikey 20:58, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My vote is for "____'s story". AnemoneProjectors (talk) 22:18, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

text: History I suppose, I think it sounds more adult. Although In the past Ive only used the title history when I cant think of any other title to use. This usually happens when the character is boring, like Mick McFarlane (the most boring EE character ever!! i nearly bored myself to tears writing that article). Recently Ive been using the title Background for those who have an extensive background before the show, like Ashraf Karim. Should I use the title History for these characters instead now? Gungadin 00:15, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "History", "Biography", "____'s story" issue- revisited! 

message: Hey guys have you seen above that they want us to select A-class articles from our list of proposed articles from wikipedia 1? which out of those from the list do you think is A class? I'll have to read them all but I think Sharon Rickman is very good, although perhaps more needs to be said about her early history. Its a bit 2005 heavy. Gungadin 23:58, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: A-Class articles

message: We need a CONSTANT. We have 'Big' Ron and Rick 'Minty' Peterson, but "Uncle" (EastEnders)... and in the articles there are sometimes differeces (ie Philip "Phil" Mitchell ,and Margaret 'Peggy' Mitchell)
So which do we use?
" or ' ?
(Also, see below)
Trampikey 17:26, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think "_" is more standard on Wikipedia. ^_^ AnemoneProjectors (talk) 18:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ""____"" or "'____'"? 

message: Rick 'Minty' Peterson, Rick "Minty" Peterson or Minty Peterson?
and
Sarah-Jane Fletcher, SJ Fletcher, Sarah-Jane 'SJ' Fletcher or Sarah-Jane "SJ" Fletcher?
Trampikey 17:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Minty Peterson and SJ Fletcher because of Little Mo Mitchell and every other article on Wikipedia which uses the name a person is best known by rather than their real or full name. There's something written about it somewhere on Wikipedia but I can't find it. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 18:05, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

text: What about Nana Moon? AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:43, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minty and SJ 

message: Do you think it is possible that we can add "home" to the infobox? Between Marital status and Occupation? Trampikey 20:32, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was an idea I had a long time ago but at the time without optional parameters, it would have broken every single infobox, which is why I never did it. Anything is possible now. AnemoneProjectors (talk) 21:33, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I've added "Home" (which can be inserted under Martial Status by typing "home=") and Date of death (which can be inserted under Date of birth by typing "dod=") Trampikey 22:17, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character infobox 

message: Does anyone know what the source for Nellie being Authur's aunt is. Ive just read in a book that she's Lou's relative. so she must be pauline's aunt. Although she's not actually Lou's sister. 
It says "character who made her debut at Pete Beale's funeral in Dec 93, returned to the show for a longer run in 94. Auntie Nellie, a relative of Lou's, came to live with the Fowlers....". Gungadin 21:34, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Nellie Ellis]] 

message: I think it's fair to ask this to all members of the WikiProject. Who thinks we should create a page called List of minor characters in EastEnders and merge all the minor characters who currently have their own articles into it? For example, those who only appeared in a handful of episodes or those whose articles contain only one paragraph. -- AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:10, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I VERY strongly oppose this article. It was scrapped before because of my reasons, which I think are fair. I don't care if you have the backing of Gungadin on this one, Petie, because I will fight the creation of this article in any way I can without being blocked. I am very passionate about this WikiProject, and hate the scrappy look of other TV shows when they have "minor character" pages, i.e. The Simpsons, whenever I look for info on a certain character, it redirects to a long list of minor characters, which looks awful. Trampikey (talk to me)(contribs) 19:16, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Trampikey, you obviously feel very strongly about this so once again I'm willing to scrap the idea. I only brought it back up because another user had discussed the idea elsewhere. Sorry for any distress caused. -- AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:27, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you, Petie. I obviously underestimated you, and would like to make a full apology for my harsh comments about you earlier. What you get up to in your own time is your business... I hope we can continue to work on this project in harmony together for a long time to come. Trampikey (talk to me)(contribs) 19:30, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't worry about it. I know we haven't always seen eye-to-eye on things but for the sake of this WikiProject and Wikipedia, I too hope we can continue to work together. Now let's all have a big group Wikipedia:WikiHug :) -- AnemoneProjectors (talk) 19:37, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Im glad everyone is friends again and I also think its best to leave things as they are if changing it is going to cause problems. Shirl xxx Gungadin 20:02, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor EE characters 

message: To add all new articles (about anything EE related- including articles about EE actors) to Wikipedia:WikiProject EastEnders/Project log. Thanks Trampikey (talk to me)(contribs) 18:38, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please remember! 

message: Why was the Albert Square image removed from the top of the project page? Trampikey (talk to me)(contribs) 14:48, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I understand now- I've replaced it :) Trampikey (talk to me)(contribs) 17:02, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: Please make sure, if you carry out task number 9, that all images added have correct licensing on them, or the article could lose it's good article status! Trampikey (talk to me)(contribs) 17:02, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images on main article 

message: I've nominated Sharon Rickman and Peggy Mitchell as good articles. Just to let you know! Trampikey (talk to me)(contribs) 17:12, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Peggy failed...Trampikey (talk to me)(contribs) 18:45, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New GA nominees! 

message: Very few of our character pages cite any sources. I believe some of you are getting information from books about EastEnders. When you write an article, please can you remember to cite your source of information in a references section at the bottom of the article. This is extremely important. Thanks. -- AnemoneProjectors (talk) 09:26, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citing sources