Talk:American-born confused desi

message: This article has more do with social issues for not just Indian Americans.--Dangerous-Boy 01:14, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont foresee this article growing more than what it is at present. With slight changes this will perfectly fit into Indian American as a section. If you link at what links here you only see Indian related articles only. So none of the other relevant parties seems to be concerned about it --Vyzasatya 06:30, 17 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  object to merge 

message: Why would a so-called 'abcd' have a house in Jersey ?   I must be missing something. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 219.77.91.41 (talk) 05:13, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  nit pick 

message: The article has too many problems.  Too many POV- and unsourced statements.  What is the history of the term?  All those goofy statements about why American born people of Indian heritage might be confused need to go.  (From my perspective, although I haven't looked for sources for this, it is more likely that the Indian-born American immigrants feel the "confusion" and then project it on the American-born "cousins.") Fowler&fowler«Talk» 15:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Its not notable outside a couple diaspora films, which liberally use the term to describe "ABCD" in contrast to FOB.Bakaman 23:03, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not to mention, the article contains a lot of original research. I don't think it merits having its own article (unless it can be written WAY better?); it should be merged with Indian Americans. --vi5in[talk] 17:31, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll put up a template stating this. --vi5in[talk] 17:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Poorly Written

message: Here are my reasons:
:* The article is poorly written (a lot of POV, Original Research, and plain goofy statements). If it can be rewritten, it may be good enough for an article by itself. 
:* It's not notable outside the south-asian community in the United States. Like someone mentioned before, the term is liberally used in diaspora films but outside of that, it is virtually unknown. So I don't know if that makes it notable enough.
:* I think it would make more sense to have this article as a subsection of South Asian American since it definitely describes a subset of the same.
These are just my reasons. --vi5in[talk] 17:42, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I second the "merge" idea.  A short paragraph about ABCD could be added to a "Trivia" section in South Asian Americans.  Fowler&fowler«Talk» 19:29, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I support a merge, as perhaps a "portrayal in media/self-portrayal" section. No need to repeat what vivin and fowler have already said in terms of rationale.Bakaman 22:24, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the merge as well. Vivin has sufficietly dealt with the reasons. ABCD seems too trivial to exist on its own. GizzaChat © 23:37, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added a paragraph to the "Identity" section in South Asian American, which describes the term ABCD. --vi5in[talk] 16:29, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since this article has been merged with South Asian American, I'm going to put this up for deletion. I'm going to redirect this to the same. I hope there are no objections. --vi5in[talk] 15:20, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: I have just undone the merge and restored the original article. Ghis is because ABCD is not used to describe a social group, it is a term used in a derogatory and judgemental way and to a. Describe the social and cultural norm of a group of people, ie 2nd generation (or later)  Indians and to descrie a way of life.
b. That this way of life is different from a depicted parent (Sub-continental) culture and a different destination culture (western society).
c. That the individual may ascertain his Cultural heritage when in a western society, but ascertain his amalgamtion when in presence of those from the prent culture or society.
d. They may and do feel judged, and attenuate their behaviour accordingy, and this shapes a new cultulre.
See  and  for reference.
:No access to the source? --vi5in[talk] 02:49, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Revert Merge, reasons

message: "Most modern day "American Born" Indians have very strong ties to India."
I think this is a massive generalization that does not hold true for many of my friends.  The ABCDs I know are North Americans who happen to be brown and get pissed when guys ask if they wear saris.
Also, Canada exists.
Sevenlies 14:15, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  generalizations