Talk:The Tribe (1999 TV series)

message: I think I'm going to try to add substantially to this, first I will try to add a list of major characters and include details of the series they were in and the tribe(s) they were members of too. Later I might try to include a brief summary of what the character is like, relations with other cast members and events which happened to the character. I am planning on doing this in an alphabetical list of main character names. I plan to try and list guest characters/small part characters in a separate list (and despite Charlie being listed as a main character by some sources I will place him in the guest list as he was only in two or three episodes. I might not have time to do all this so any help in achieving this expansion of the article would be much appreciated.  Evil Eye 14.43, 25 July 2005.
I just re-added the detailed info for three of the characters after it was deleted because, as I said above, that was what I wanted for every character in that section. I haven't had time to add the same for the other characters yet (perhaps this makes the article look unbalanced and the reason why it was changed). But when I get time I will try to add more and hopefully others will be able to do the same. Evil Eye 17:26, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Characters

message: Hey Evil Eye,
just wanted to say that I didn't want to step on anybodies toes when I changed 'series' to 'season'. I do have the DVD myself and am aware that Cloud 9 likes to use 'series', but it seems rather confusing, especially for Americans (but also for me, a non-native speaker). It also sounds somewhat awkward, and I wanted it to be in accord with the terminology typically used in TV show fandom, rather than stick to Cloud9's alternative. If you look at the history of the article, there have been other people before who thought the same and changed it accordingly.
Just wanted to clear that up.
Have a nice day, Alyandra, 25 March 2005
Hello,
series isn't just a word used by cloud 9, but is generally the traditional word used to describe a "season" of a programme in the UK (and some other countries I believe). Presently the use of season is becoming more common in the UK, but mostly in relation to US TV programmes. Either way, since "series" is a commonly used word for this and since it is used on the DVD itself, I think we should have "series" used here. :) Evil Eye 13:56, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series/season

message: Just wanted to check what people though about moving the info about he DVD release down to after the character section. While it might be information important to some people, the article is about the Tribe as a TV programme and we should have significant information about the programme itself before we start to talk about the DVD. Having the DVD bit near the top makes it look a bit like advertising. So is anyone again me moving (and possibly adding/changing bits to) the DVD section?  Evil Eye 21:31, 18 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: DVD Release

message: I've seen this show and I confess that I struggle to believe that it had a budget of 62 million (it is claimed that later series had a higher budget) - more like £62.
--Charlesknight 23:02, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see why no one responded to your comment in 3 and a half years. Was that looking for inflammatory comments or something? If it was a proved fact (it's obviously removed now), then that's that. Maybe that was for the series as a whole, but, the construction of the Mall set and the Eagle Mountain set as well as various other sets and implemented structures in the environments shown on the show certainly didn't cost nothing. 110.32.248.126 (talk) 15:09, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  62 million 

message: I know that The Tribe was filmed in New Zealand, but the budget, network of origin, and years of airing are all stated from a British perspective. Was the show produced by a British company? If so, the article should clearly say that it is a British television series, and if not, the article should give budgets in New Zealand dollars, etc. --Metropolitan90 03:56, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this article be written from a NZ or UK perspective? 

message: Hey guys im allem i think that this site needs an episode guide from every episode in each series/season w.e. and more pics of the tribe there is'nt enough of them and i think the dvd section needs  to be near to the top!
i also put the tribe dvd pics on there i hope that was ok though i cant see series/season 1 & 4 on there why?? --Allem06 18:13, 22 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not too sure an episode guide would be very useful as the Tribe wasn't really an episodic programme, but rather it had a number of stories runnign throughout each series or for part of a series. Maybe a much larger guide for each series would be good though. Maybe keep the summaries we aleady have and then expand the sections with details of all the major stories and major events (eg deaths, births, missing people, arrivals, who runs the city, catured by(and by whom) key events, such as discovery of the antidote, the attack by Tribe Circus on the Mall, the election of city President etc). I think however and episode giude for all 250 or so episodes would be way too much. As for the DVD section being higher up, I don't agree either. The article is about the Tribe, and all information relevent to the TV programme itself should be included in the article first beofre we start talking about where one can get hold of a copy of the series...this isn't a place to advertise the DVDs after all :-) Evil Eye 18:16, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Tribe episode guides and more 

message: hey like what you guys have done to the this page it's great but i noticed that Ari Boyalnd who played KC is spelled wrong it is "Ari Boyland"!
Ari Boyland was also in the Disney channel movie You Wish! back in 2002/2003 with A.J. Trauth, Spencer Breslin & Lalaine!
thanx Allem06 09:44, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's way beyond fixed now. That was probably just a simple spelling mistake. Talk pages are frequently clogged up with messages and pointless tidbits like these. You're a registered user, surely you should know the difference between a serious matter and a spelling mistake? 110.32.248.126 (talk) 15:11, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  KC - Ari Boyland 

message: I'm not entirely sure how to go about it, but I want to add South Africa to the list, as it was broadcast here on SABC1. Can anyone advise? Snofferol 00:41, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of countries broadcast in 

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message: I came to this page looking for more informaion about the tribe and was pretty dissapointed with what was here, it is lacking alot which is a shame since i remember the tribe being pretty big. maybe the page could do with a update? - 86.153.76.124 08:43, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Tribe logo chrom 145.gif

message: I've removed a mojority of the external links as they weren't anything beyond fan sites and some were completely down. sicaruma | contribs 21:22, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems most external links were added again. Any help on wether all the external links are relevant to the article would be greatly appreciated. ErisDysnomia (talk) 16:02, 12 October 2009 (UTC)

text: Please read our guidance on external links and :WP:LINKFARM; and remember that "other stuff is out there!" is not a valid argument for retention (but may be a flag for things that need cleaning up). --Orange Mike  |  Talk 15:48, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: The blurb at the top of the page incorrectly states that The New Tomorrow portrayed descendants of the original "Tribe" members. The wikipedia article on "The New Tomorrow" states that they don't know the exact connection to the original Tribe series or the characters. This needs to be corrected, so that it states the correct information  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.99.241.202 (talk) 20:15, 23 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a Reference to an interview Raymond Thompson did in 2005 where he is quoted as saying that "[The New Tomorrow] tells the story of descendants from the original series." ErisDysnomia (talk) 10:17, 15 October 2009 (UTC)

text: Yes, he means it's the next generation, not necessarily the children of the mallrats. I think that should be changed as it is misleading. Having them as definitively the children of the mallrats raises a lot of questions.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.165.71.231 (talk) 12:30, 11 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Tribe: New Tomorrow 

message: This section has already had three different titles. First, it was called "Fan productions", then "Cultural impact" and now "Spin offs and Continuations". The content of that section should be clarified. Furthermore, the text lacks third-party sources and proper citations for its "Unofficial" section and the "Blood of Judas" section should be properly referenced and included in the "Book releases" section. ErisDysnomia (talk) 09:23, 20 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: My goal is not to attack your content but to make the article as factual as possible. The New Tomorrow is already mentioned and referenced in the Production section. I think adding another link to The New Tomorrow Wikipedia article in another section is a little redundant. In the "Blood of Judas" section, you cite the same interview twice in the same paragraph. Furthermore, Harry Duffin doesn't mention that "the screenplay is currently doing the rounds in Hollywood" in his interview. I think this part should be rewritten to be more factual. Finally, as it stands, the "Unofficial" section seems to promote two fan projects but doesn't include much factual information. I hope you understand what I think should be improved in the section. Thank you. ErisDysnomia (talk) 13:53, 20 October 2009 (UTC)

text: Hello. The wikilink to The New Tomorrow doesn't harm the article but it is redundant and doesn't add any information to the article. I'm not sure a link needs to have its own subsection with a title. Could you add other references than the "Tribe Heaven" website for the "Unofficial" section? The embedded links to “The Tribe Movie 2005” and “Fractured Alliance” should be referenced in the "Notes and references" section rather than inline. Please, don’t remove the templates as they will allow other editors/contributors to see the section could be improved. Thank you. ErisDysnomia (talk) 10:54, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spin offs and Continuations 

message: It says that this series was broadcasted on ABC2 in 2002 but this channel was only launched in 2005 making that impossible. Heres the contradictory information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ABC2 
RT292 | (Talk) 04:19, 2 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broadcast History- Australia- ABC2 

message: To the person who wrote that huge paragraph about how The Tribe is going to make a comeback, and to the person who will re-add that passage (as is inevitably going to happen):
I understand your enthusiasm and, as a huge long-term fan myself, I want to get the word out too. But this is supposed to be an encyclopedia, not some dump for information about possible future developments (which, most likely, will lead to absolutely nothing anyway). Whether Dwayne held a fan chat or Cloud9 opened a facebook page has no relevance to this article whatsoever.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.1.71.26 (talk) 01:30, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah just remove it. It's not needed until it actually happens, it's all primary sourced. Also fansite references need removing from this article, like 'Tribeheaven' is not a reliable source.RAIN*the*ONE BAM 03:11, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent "developments" 

message: The idea behind this series is not an original idea by Raymond Thompson. The idea had already been published by John Christopher in 1977, as Empty World. This was filmed under the title Leere Welt in Germany in 1987.101.98.169.98 (talk) 02:19, 29 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The concept itself was not even new in the 70s. Look at the episode Miri from Star Trek for example. The premise is very similar.--77.182.168.235 (talk) 21:52, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original idea? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: As discussed in the section before this one, I have replaced the rather long, rambling, and confusing 'Cast' list from this article with a 'Characters' table, as is allowed under MOS:TVCAST. I think this is a much clearer format to represent which characters and cast appeared in which series/seasons, and whether they were there for most of a series, part of a series, or just a few episodes in a series.
As discussed above, in general I have categorized cast thusly:
* "Main" = Appeared in 20 or more episodes in a series. The one exception to this is Daniel James as Zoot, whom I've categorized as "Main" cast in series 1, because any discussion of The Tribe characters makes no sense without including Zoot.
* "Recurring" = Appeared in approximately 5–19 episodes in a series.
* "Guest" = Appeared in less than approximately 5 episodes in a series. Thus, this includes Michelle Ang's appearances in series 4, and Ari Boyland's, Vanessa Stacey's, and Damon Andrews' appearances in series 5.
Adding the table has forced me to remove the just-recurring cast – again, listing these only makes sense in table-format, but MOS:TVCAST disallows listing recurring cast in table-format at main TV series articles. If the List of The Tribe characters article is ever restored, a 'Recurring' characters table (see the version at my sandbox) can be returned to that article.
Finally, the version of the 'Characters' table I just added contains a lot of notes. I would understand if other editors think this is overkill, and attempt to trim these notes. I will say, though – for this series, I think the notes I've added to the current 'Characters' table are warranted, as there was a lot of "cast change" over the course of this particular series.
Comments and suggestions from other editors are welcome. --IJBall (contribs • talk) 06:20, 24 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters table 

message: The last sentence of the third paragraph from the top has this:
"This led to Cloud 9 developing a series of novels to continue the story of the television series, the first of which released in 2011." 
Shouldn't the auxiliary verb 'was' be used like this:
This led to Cloud 9 developing a series of novels to continue the story of the television series, the first of which was released in 2011. M-Nyby (talk) 10:14, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar 

message: There is a new book that could be added to the article. Rain the 1 09:23, 25 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  New book - 2020