Talk:Flag of Venezuela

message: I think that the Venezuelan flag is pretty cool. The stripes and the stars are pretty awesome...when you look at it, you feel like a superstar!just like i am today!-hannah talley* —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.12.116.72 (talk • contribs) .
Great another star... what a revolutionary idea...Jfreyre
:I'm not too thrilled either. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy  04:37, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What would you have instead?  There were seven stars before, would you have added a golf ball for the eighth object?  Stars may seem like a ho-hum everybody-has-them symbol, but let's face it, they've had stars for 200 years so stars it is. Darcyj 11:34, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

text: You've just heard of it, but did you get any further and read the whole article? Darcyj 11:34, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the explanation of the stars wasn't on the article when I read it. It looks like it's been added, which is basically what I was asking about. So it's all good. Radagast 12:57, 13 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Not quite. According to :es, today's states of Bolívar State, Amazonas State and Delta Amacuro State originally constituted the Venezuelan province of Guayana, not today's sovereign state of Guyana. Just because Bush says Chávez is evil and dangerous doesn't mean he is; the only territorial ambitions Chávez has are for some islands off the Venezuelan coast. ;) —Nightstallion (?) 22:55, 12 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Amazonas and Delta Amacuro territories were split from Guayana state, while the remainder of Guayana state became Bolívar state (emphasis added)
If anybody has any references which show that Guayana Province covered only the present Bolívar State and not the entire administrative region of Guayana, please post them. --Nike 12:26, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Meaning of stars

message: There seems to be some kind of argument going on about whether the horse is running left or right.  Without getting into that, I'd say that it seems odd to say that the horse is running to "its left" or "its right": it's running forwards, not left or right. It's not a crab. Markyour words 12:00, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  That horse 

message: I Think that this flag is a Hugo Chavez disrespect fot the Venezuelan history, traditions and culture, put the horse to the left is more than a proof that the venezuelan dictator wants to unite party and government to build a autoritarian socialist regime.Poor venezuelans. 
Lincoln Baptista, Brazil
:I am not happy about the flag change either. My pals from Venezuela are very upset too, some were brought to tears. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy  19:19, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if you want to take it from a vexillologist POV, the flag was altered in 1999 because the coat of arms was changed. While the civil flag and the merchant flag did not get affected, the state flag did (thus, money). Now with this flag change 7 years later, the government is spending money again to replace national symbols, which is money that could be used to better the people of VE. Plus, VE will spend money again to revert Chavez;s changes to the symbols, so in the end, a lot of money that could be use to build hospitals and other things are getting wasted on petty political symbols. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy  23:45, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well; I guess that’s a discussion for the Venezuelan parliament. If they want a new flag, they should get one. – And I don’t really think that the money that they are putting on the flag change comes from health care any way. I think they’ve got a budget post for something like this, that doesn’t take from another post. --Rapvatten 14:45, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a special fund that was set up for this, but what I am trying to get at is that the money could be used for, let's say, more important things. But from what the VE Government says, there is a 5 year phase into the symbols change, so it will not be as dramatic, as say, Georgia (both the US state and country) and Belarus. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy  20:52, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disrespect 

message: As long as this article is linked to from Current events and the main page, I see no reason to not include the current event tag. Since the main page and the Current events page both linked to this article rather than a new one discussing the event, this page should be regarded as the de facto event page, especially since it lists the three-day old event. --Kmsiever 23:19, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not going into a silly revert war over this, so if you feel this strongly about it go ahead and put it back in and at leat I will stay out. But this is really not what the current event box is meant for. At least it wasn't back when the tag was made. But it seems to be a spreading misconseption that everything that has been covered in some news section the last days should have that ugly box on top of it. The template was made two years ago during the 11 March 2004 Madrid train bombings when news about the event was comming in pr the minute and information really was changing as the event progressed and news about it came in. The purpose of the template is to tell readers that the information here may be outdated soon because it's an evolving event. I don't see the flag of Venezuela to be changing again anytime soon, so I don't see it fit into this. Shanes 23:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't want a revert war either. That's why I brought it up here. --Kmsiever 19:28, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I also believe that the current event tag should probably go, but we should make a note using iNotes that this article is linked on the Main page and will incure a lot of edits in the next few days. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy  00:02, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't tag articles just because they are linked to from the Main page. At least I don't know of any such tag. I don't think tags should be put in lightly on top of articles. They should really be meassaging the reader something important to defend having that prominent place. Now, I'm even more opposed to the sprotect and vprotect tags we smear on top of some prominent articles (why the hell would readers care if they can edit or not; we're here for the readers). But maybe, just maybe, there is some merit in telling the reader that "this article will be much better in a day or two, come back and read it again then if this topic interests you". That would actually be informative and worthy of some reader distraction. At least much more so than the completeley irrelevant "you can't edit this page" notes we put up many places. I'm probably digressing. But that's just my oppinion. If someone makes a template like this, it will quite likely have to go through a tfd debate, and we'll get the community's oppinion. Shanes 00:24, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not so much sold on having the currentevent tag per se on the article. But I think it would be helpful that there was some indication that the article is currently seeing an abnormal amount of traffic and such traffic could result in some errors, POVs, etc. --Kmsiever 19:28, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Current event

message: I am no expert at this, but as far as I know, there hasn't been an official eight star flag until 2006. From the article I got the feeling that the eight star flag has been official since 1817: After the Guayana campaign, Simón Bolívar added the eighth star to the national flag. I think that is misleading. ZooTV 02:15, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of the flag with eight stars

message: The article says "The flag is the one primarily adopted by the National Congress of 1811 [...] a flag with three stripes, yellow, blue, and red" and "This format has remained largely unchanged since 1811". However the article also shows an image of a supposed flag used in the First Republic of Venezuela (1811-1812) with the red side up. See also es:Primera República de Venezuela which shows a yellow-blue-red flag with the image of an indigenous woman in the corner, see also http://www.simon-bolivar.org/bolivar/bandera1.html --JRSP 22:15, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: See , particularly . Basically, it's been largely unchanged in that it's always been a three stripe, yellow/blue/red flag. The number of stars and the coat of arms has changed. I've never seen that upside down flag, and since it's not cited, I'll remove it now. Re: number of stars. Venezuela had originally 7 provinces. An 8th was added when Guayana joined (The stars were on the yellow stripe at the time). Later the stars were removed, and put in again when Venezuela separated from the Gran Colombia. There were 20 states at the time and 20 stars were added. At some point some national territories (not states) were included. The 20 star flag was short-lived, and was changed to a 7-star flag for historical reasons, pointing at the original 7 colonies. The only changes were on the arrangement of the stars. Chavez' readdition of the 8th star comes just from wanting to remember a different point in history than anyone else. Knowing how this goes, he'll probably wait a couple years and change it to a 23 star version since that's how many states we have now.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.109.249.138 (talk • contribs) 13:24, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  All sources say that the flag of the 1st Republic is this one: JRSP 19:00, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction 

message: Solo los organismos del Estado, así como la Fuerza Armada Nacional usan el pabellón con el escudo de armas a la izquierda.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.88.10.231 (talk) 04:42, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Escudo 

message: It is also called sadflag. I wonder why!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:587:4101:8C00:B8AD:1307:BAB7:BBB2 (talk) 08:07, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sadflag 

message: appears to believe that their PNG file should be used instead of the normal SVG. Can we please discuss the matter? I am firmly in favour of using the SVG as that is standard practice. Fry1989 eh? 17:41, 16 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  I stand corrected, there is an SVG. We should keep it. There was some miscommunication here on my part, please ignore my last message.  Jp16103  00:32, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  SVG vs PNG 

message: The naval jack only has 7 stars. But the text states 8
The naval jack only has 7 stars. But the text states 8.  Should be corrected one way or the other 192.141.246.138 (talk) 23:16, 30 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naval jack 7 stars