Talk:Need for Speed: Carbon

message: I hope nobody minds, but i am going to change the info about the Rotor4 crew. currently it has listed that they drive exotic cars, when they actualy primarily drive Mazda cars, hence the name.	 	
		 	
Lynx Raven Raide 14:50, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing Rotor4 

message: http://www.ebgames.com/product.asp?cookie%5Ftest=1&product%5Fid=230022	 	
and IGN has reported it too. 	 	
	 	
adding Wii to the platforms list, if nobody has a problem with it. 	 	
		 	
Can somebody get a picture of the logo (as seen on the official page)?	 	
		 	
Seiferalmas 14:50, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wii to the platforms list 

message: I know that there is a disclaimer at the top of the page about Information of a speculative nature, but I feel that the release date should not be stated as being 1st November 2006 just because EBGames says thats when it is coming out. The product hasn't even been Officially anounced yet... rewording...
The above comment was by me Pretender2j 06:04, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  NFS: Carbon Release Date 

message: Removed Dodge Viper and Toyota Supra as they have not appeared in official screenshots. The videos do not confirm anything as they can match several cars.	 	
		 	
What happened to the seperate Official and Unofficial sections under the Carlists heading? ALOT of the cars that are now in the 'Official' list have not been confirmed to be included in Carbon. The citation for the carlist is a news piece on the official NFS website which clearly does not mention alot of the cars that are on the list. *(If no one has any objections I will be changing the two lists back. Or if anyone else thinks it is a good idea I will rewrite the whole section to make possibly three lists, officially confirmed, confirmed by image/video, speculated.)* See below. Pretender2j 05:07, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unofficial Carlist Edits 

message: I hope they do not cancel online gaming for the PlayStation 2 version like Need For Speed: Most Wanted! If they do, Electronic Arts is going to pay the price and I do hope they put 2 more opponents like Burnout Revenge. Best Gamer	 	
:Online gaming nowadays is a necessity. PS2 must have online gaming enabled all the way through, or sales of the PS2 version won't be that bright. — Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 04:35, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Online Comeback for the PlayStation 2 version 

message: I've put up a citation link regarding about this "Nikki" that Emanuelle play--very chilly plot I'm seeing. Is Emanuelle going to be playing an "evil chick" for the first time in her life? I'm thinking that Nikki is supposed to be evil (much like Razor was evil in NFSMW). Anyway, please check out the citation and tell me what you think. — Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 02:16, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emanuelle citation 

message: I hope this NFS: Carbon includes something like Be the cop , as in NFS: HP 2. MarioV 22:43, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Be the cop 

message: what i want to know is i have a positive feeling there will be police in the game to chase you, but.... Is the game going to be like the last two, free roaming capabillities, i only ask becasue i have played the demo and im worried because i can't see any evidence to sugest this, mind out that the demo doesn't show the main menu.There should be police in there because need for speed most wanted has a police.have you got burnout revenge? if you don't get it because it's quite good.POSTED ON NOVEMBER 16TH 2006.	 	
		 	
anyone one that might know plz post back
I've got a hold of the game, and Yes, It is Free Roaming like the last two. Churba 16:16, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  important features 

message: Why would exotic cars must be upgraded? How come the exotic cars did'nt go over 200mph?? Please, give me an explanation! The exotic cars and concept cars are supposed to go over 200mph! Best Gamer 17 September 2006	 	
		 	
		 	
They should make at least 1 bodykit available for the exotics. This would be the same bodykit used in the racing version of the specific car (eg. Aston Martin DBR9 aero parts for street DB9) --HashiriyaGDB 14:56, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exotic Cars is supposed to go over 200mph and cannot change body parts 

message: I'm looking at you Best Gamer. If you want to talk about Carbon go chat with people at the official NFS forums . The discusion page is not for asking questions about Carbon, it is for discusion of the article it is connected to. It is also not for commenting or expressing your opinion of the game (or whatever the connected article is about). Pretender2j 04:04, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discusion page not for chatting 

message: Large sections of this article are very badly written. I'm going to try and work on it over the next few days to raise the quality. Si hablas español, contribuir por favor a la versión española del wikipedia. Pretender2j 06:04, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who has been editing this article? 

message: Wait a minute, given that Nikki is an ex, she was supposed to be an antagonist because usually when women break-up with men, they usually want revenge. I'm shocked by what the article dictates through its citations, and given that Nikki won't be an antagonist, I'm gonna have to check the citation if Nikki is not going to be an antagonist, because I was insisting Nikki to be an antagonist. — Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 14:11, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Nikki talk 

message: I highly appreciate if someone can help Wikipedia beautify the citation and make it an encyclopedical reference if by all means possible, as I have to say that the citation is nothing but vague at this time. Thanks. — Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 01:27, 24 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rumors and Speculation 

message: Someone (220.245.248.70) keeps changing the 240SX to a 300ZX in the speculated cars. To me the image clearly shows a 240SX but I will provide so pics to verify this. Here is a 300ZX and here is a 240SX and then here is the image in question 240 or 300? I think it's pretty clear. If you (220.245.248.70) want to add the 300ZX then by all means do! Make sure you provide a citation aswell. Pretender2j 02:11, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  300ZX or 240SX 

message: Check out this! http://be-notorious.co.uk/	 	
I think there's new songs!	 	
		 	
Sorry its wrong I saw the Artist and Song...Sorry..	 	
		 	
Downfoot1 11:08, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Soundtrack! 

message: I actually wish they would bring back "split screen" multiplayer racing. There are many instances when running NFS on a computer when it would come in handy. When did they stop featuring it? the_paccagnellan 12:59, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  split screen 

message: this is just to say that not many people know but there will be neons as some of the cars in videos have been sighted with that well known underglow, I will be very surprised if they don't have neons in this Need For Speed.
Prepare to be surprised - They're not in there. Churba 16:19, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neons 

message: The Xbox360 playable demo was released to Xbox marketplace and the 2004 Lamborghini Gallardo, 2006 Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution IX MR Edition, and 1967 Chevrolet Camaro SS have been confirmed. As well as the 1999 Mazda RX-7 and 2006 Dodge Charger SRT-8.	 	
		 	
Princessbill55 00:15, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official Car Updates 

message: Cross has been confirmed to return, but there still no news about being the cop mode, sorry NFSHP fans :'( (me included)	 	
		 	
It has been confirmed that there wil be an online 'be the cop' mode but as yet nothing about single player 'be the cop'. Pretender2j 10:14, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cross confirmed, be the cop.....? 

message: The car in the game is an Audi Le Mans Quattro as this is a different car to the production model Audi R8. There are some major differences that make the two cars different. The main one being the engine used. The Audi Le Mans Quattro uses a 5-litre V10 engine whereas the Audi R8 uses a 4.2 V8 engine. It would be like saying that a base model Porsche Carrera is the same as a Porsche GT3 RS. Pretender2j 02:34, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think anyone is debating the difference between the two cars. This is usually the case between concept and production. It should just be understood the Le Mans Quattro is strictly a concept car and is officially called the 2003 Audi Le Mans Quattro Concept as per official manufacturer press release. The R8 is the production version of the concept and is officially called the 2008 Audi R8. Roguegeek (talk) 00:37, 28 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Thanks for catching my typo, Pretender2j, and changing "2004" to "2003". Roguegeek (talk) 17:28, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Regarding the Audi Le Mans Quattro / R8

message: The handheld version of NFS carbon will be called Need for Speed Carbon: Own the City. It should be made into a different article, because it is entirely different from the comsole version.
:I Agree.  I just purchased the PSP version of the game, and it is only similar in name and general premise.  The story, characters, setting, and wingman system are all different, and many of the car customization options are slightly different as well.  If not its own page, at the very least I think it deserves a section on the Carbon page itself. 69.234.145.186 06:44, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Handheld Version 

message: Someone made the mistake of saying the game features the "new Chevrolet Chevelle SS." Its actually the new 2009(8?) Camaro, not the Chevelle. Im changing it.	 	
Scryer_360 02:46, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Camaro, not Chevelle 

message: I have removed the entire Minimum and Optimum requirements for the Persaonal Computer (PC). It's of no pratical use to the article. You may want to post it on StrategyWiki. Also, edited the 'Enviroment' section of the article. Ken20008 11:11, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, hardware requirements are permitted, in accordance to the computer and video games infobox (see  for list of available fields). We could put in at least the minimum or optimum performance specs in this article's infobox. It's very much underused in this respect. ╫ ２５ ◀RingADing▶ 15:26, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: System Reqirements and city details

message: A vandal has removed all details of this talk page. It took me quite a while to copy and paste this talk page back here, and to fix up the formatting mistakes. Watch out for him/her (the vandal). IP address:60.49.84.212
Ken20008 12:34, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandal

message: Just one question guys
The gallardo that the rival No. 6 of NFS: MW was using is a lamborghini gallardo Nera, right?
Nah, just a 'regular' Gallardo. Pretender2j 06:32, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lamborghini Gallardo Nera? 

message: Well I did my best to try to update the article (diff) and I'll list some reasons in which I felt a change was appropriate
Intro:
*listing of specific predecessors unnecessary
*night-time racing reference obsolete
*demo link moved to external links
Game Info:
*original text obsolete
Environment:
*original text obsolete
*unnecessary information
Plot Outline:
*obsolete quote unnecessary with new plot outline
Characters:
*added new column
Rumors and Speculation:
*unnecessary information, now that the game is released
Official Cars
*deleted obsolete news article link
*Note with Honda irrelevent
Speculated Cars
No changes to list as of now; if you find any of these cars in the game, please move the car to its appropriate spot in the section above.
References
*deleted section, as no references were found after the deletion of the Plot Outline quote
External Links
*added demo download link
Sorry for the long article, but i just dont want someone to complain that a certain secion of the article was deleted for no reason. --Aa35te 23:52, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup 

message: This article absolutely sucks. It disgusts me, since im a NFS fan. The game is already released, do something about it, like highlghting game play points. Just model it after Need For Speed: Most Wanted's article and that will do it. Cut out all the pre-release, spectulation sections, pre release interviews, all those crap. I would have updated the gameplay info, but i dont have the game and wont risk it. Ken20008 10:53, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Very bad article

message: I probed the history of edits on this article and apparently for some apparent reason the criticism is just way too biased and the two sentences are way too harsh.  Definitely be careful about your edits because some of the tone of your edits may be a bit too harsh, and it may disgust some readers, so I appreciate if you guys watch the tone of your edits.  As always, NPOV should be observed, but please, watch the tone of your edits because some edits might disgust certain readers.  This clickable link will tell you why watching your edit's tone is just as important as keeping the article NPOV. — Vesther (U * T/R * CTD) 06:21, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's the same guy: Wikidrone. I keep having to revert similar edits and I left this guy a message on his talk page regarding his tone. --Aa35te 22:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Watch your editing tone guys 

message: Shouldn't there be a part about the absence of Ferrari's in the game? LSky 08:44, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you find an article explaining the Ferrari's absence, then by all means go ahead and add it. Otherwise, it would be just another useless trivia point.--Aa35te 22:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Care to cite this? Dhalphir 07:05, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ferrari Absence 

message: I'm not fixing it right away as I'm not absolutely sure - but Is the Camaro really an addition to the Series, considering It was in Most Wanted? Churba 16:22, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The 2008 Camaro Concept is. --Aa35te 22:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Camaro Question 

message: Yo, why are the images of the cars stored off-site? They could be uploaded here (Wikipedia) couldn't they? SirronTheMighty 19:48, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Car Images 

message: Is it really necassary to have all these external links to fan sites and such? Most video game articles have only links to the game's homepage and maybe a broad popular site like IGN or Gamespot. These links are unorganized and mainly superfluous. Three fansites and more than six cheat/review/info sites is just unnecessary. BeefJeaunt 20:24, 21 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you find it unnecessary, delete them. --Aa35te 22:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: My experience with deleting unnecessary information from Wikipedia such as long lists of fan links is that someone will inevitably revert my changes and say it was vandalism. Really the only one of those links that actually belongs here is the one for the official website, all the rest are fancruft. Once I clean this up I hope that the people who visit here have the decency to accept the edit.--Stranger Dan 01:27, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: To Many Links

message: I don't have the game, and I was wondering if you race night and the day. We could add it the the enviroment or gameplay section. November 23, 2006
:Night racing only. --Aa35te 22:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  day and night 

message: I was just thinking you guys on wikipedia might have an idea as to that song is that plays in the starting sequence of the dvd..its so cool. where can I get it?
Yashrg 08:06, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The music in the bonus dvd 

message: If someone unlock all the cars, it would be nice just to sort the cars by type (Tuner, Exotic and Muscle). Maybe there some info on the EA site. Zerat ca 04:11, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cars sorting 

message: OK. I have a VERY SERIOUS question about the EA Trax. I keep looking at the control functions and I can't find ANYWHERE how to (or if you even can) change songs. I'm used to this with all of the previous Need For Speed games I've played, but I don't know about this game, since toggling the songs in gameplay seems to have an absence here. Now here's my main question: Can you, during gameplay, change to another song instead of supposedly being forced to listen to the songs in the order provided? And if so, how? Please respond quickly!! I really want to know ASAP!!!! Just_Nt1m3 22:39, 31 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You can only turn the EA TRAX on or off during gameplay. In the EA TRAX menu (after going to through Main Menu and then Options, afterwards scrolling to the right to EA TRAX)you can choose which songs you want to use (although you cannot choose the order). You can also choose to either use all the songs or to use gameplay specific songs. I have the Xbox version of the game, I have not a clue if it's the same for all consoles. Chameleon3322 23:29, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  EA TRAX 

message: I have seen the vehicle names marked with asterisks. Are they to download vehicles? Professional Gamer 22:41, 28 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Downloadable/Non-Downloadable Vehicles 

message: If no one has any objections I'd like to take out the really pixelated, low-res shot of Cross's Corvette and replace it with my own one which I'll upload in a day. If you have any problems message me.
Gamer112 06:12, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deleting bad quality photo... 

message: Just to add guys, I went through most of this article, excluding Soundtrack, Critical Reception and Conflicts with Vista, rewriting, rewording and rephrasing some very poor writing. I made sure I used more encyclopedic language then the previous editor and added some extra info and took out unnecessary incorrect details.
Also I will replace that picture of Cross's Corvette with a much better quality screenie in a day or two.
If their are any problems/issues, contact me, or at least please post here what your changing, I don't mind at all, I just want to know what needs to be changed or why that's all. Please don't start an edit war or undoing hard work for no reason; if you do be so kind as to tell me.
Thanks!! Hope I've improved the article somewhat, btw also if their are any issues with the new picture additions in the article as well, contact me too...
Gamer112 16:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major Rewrite! 

message: Some of the vehicles are not shown in the original ver. of Need For Speed: Carbon. Some of them are shown as "Reward Cards". Professional Gamer 01:05, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hidden Vehicles 

message: I took out the GTO screen shot because it is not in the game. I put the police by the Monaro VXR area. 
EDIT: I didn't reaize that it was a bonus car, sorry about that.
Baseracer 04:08, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:   Pontiac GTO not in the game 

message: why do you compare the lambourgini to the audi?
it's rather pointless, if your going to compare them compare a stock audi to a modified one.
Not two different cars.Balmazer 02:22, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  comparing two different cars why? 

message: Ok it seems this article has been somewhat forgotten about I don't know who added the "Overly Long or Confusing" tag but I've fixed it up now and I don' think it deserves that anymore, it fits well into the article and needs to be somewhat longish to describe the complicated story.
Also I hardly consider this article a "start" anymore on (assessment scale) that was obviously done a while back and it's grown and been changed a lot since then. I dunno how this assessment thing works so does somebody just reassess the article or what? In any case this article is a lot more polished now. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Gamer112 (talk • contribs) 12:12, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove Plot Outline tag and ReRate article.... 

message: OK, nobody seems to take care of Traditional Chinese version of release date...
Address of chinese official webpage --> http://nfsmw.ea.com.tw/ (KyoriAsh 14:49, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, this is English Wikipedia, maybe that's why nobody cares. Sites in Chinese are not helpful for the vast majority of readers here, so the link is removed. --MrStalker 20:47, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To MrStalker, I think that Chinese version of the official link should be inserted, not because of majority readers only know English, but for their knowledge that other language's official website is available, for instance: MapleStory. For now, I wait for the answer and not readd the link yet. (KyoriAsh 01:27, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need For Speed Carbon Chinese Version Release Date? 

message: I'm pretty sure that NFS: Carbon doesn't have the Games for Windows logo so I'm taking the game off the category, unless it does have the logo. --The Helper S 04:48, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If only it worked on Vista, supported an Xbox360 controller, and didn't crash, eh? --67.80.60.2 22:36, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Games for Windows Categorization

message: Please someone fix that characters table, cuz it looks like shit. --MrStalker 08:38, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because I don't have the know-how to do so, rather than fix the characters table, I just picked it up and dropped it onto the List of Need for Speed characters#Carbon article. At least this way only people who want to know detailed character information have to look at it. Dhalphir 07:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters table 

message: I had put in info about NFSUnlimited, NFScars, and their reactions to the locked cars. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by SkeeteRX8 (talk • contribs) 23:42, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Locked cars 

message: Perhaps a section should be included giving rough details on Carbon's pursuit system, similar to the one of the Most Wanted page. Also, a section outlining Carbon's race types?
Evils Dark 02:28, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pursuit System and Race Types 

message: Could anyone possible post an achievements list for XBOX 360? Thanks! Mawest11 02:52, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Achievements List

message: Can I get some confirmation one mistake. I believe Cross has the Chevrolet Corvette Z06 ever since Need for Speed: Most Wanted? He did not switch between the two games. I believe in one of the loading screens from NFS: MW, it clearly states that Cross has the Corvette Z06 instead of the regular version (the player can only obtain a regular Corvette in career mode in MW). Furthermore, in the "bonus car" section of MW, Cross's vehicle can be obtained and is notably the Corvette Z06.
: There have been some revert wars on that bit of information.  I'm not sure why it's apparently controversial. Xihr 19:25, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cross does indeed drive the Z06, and so can the player. Dhalphir 07:08, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cross's Car 

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message: When did Carbon come out for the mac, i cant find a date. Mark4life92 22:43, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mac OS X release date 

message: Lists of cars are unencyclopedic, and there's precedent in the large amount of articles that list cars and other game vehicles being deleted. Lists of cars are considered game guide material, and as such, not to be included in Wikipedia. DurinsBane87 00:28, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree (after the fact).  It's really not appropriate here. Xihr 06:49, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of cars 

message: I have edited the following 
There is also the option to tune the performance for your cars by tweaking performance parts like Turbochargers for example, to have more or less Torque or Horsepower;
to this
There is also the option to tune the performance for your cars by tweaking performance parts like Turbochargers, to spool at low or high RPM, which  roughly translates to being tweaked for acceleration or higher top speed 
because when modifying the Turbocharger part, it does not refer to Torque and Horsepower, that is instead referred to when modifying the Engine. Dhalphir 03:03, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small edit in the Car Customisation section 

message: Another major criticism of Need for Speed: Carbon was that with its release, many of the anticipated cars such as the Porsche 911 Turbo and Ford Shelby Mustang GT500 were inaccessible in game
This is inaccurate as far as I know, because the Ford Shelby Mustang GT500 is indeed completely accessible in the game. It is not a downloaded car, because I have not downloaded anything on my copy. My copy of the game is only a few weeks old, so perhaps in newer shipping runs of the game, the GT500 is included? 
If no one has any objections, after a week I'll change this section. Dhalphir 03:18, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mustang GT500?? 

message: The plot had to be condensed since it looked too long and too detailed.  I had no choice.  Feel free if you want to revert it but it would be preferable if the plot summary be condensed, and remain concise and as short as possible.
On a side note, the article looks way too messy as I firmly believe that action needs to be taken to shorten the article to a point where it would look beautiful, I would start out by moving the character-related information to the "List of Characters from Need for Speed" article or whatever we want to call it. 71.57.74.109 23:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good job condensing the plot.  As for cleaning up the article, we could start by getting rid of the tables related to the crews and team members.  I would say they would not be informative to someone who doesn't play the game, but I play the game and they arn't even useful for me, plus they are a violation of Wikipedia is not a game guide. --Daniel J. Leivick 02:31, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  As per my below post, rather than lose the tables entirely (Someone spent a great deal of time on those) I opted to move them to List of Need for Speed characters#Carbon. That way they are still accessible to anyone who wants to read them (I linked to them from the Characters section), but they don't detract from the overall article (their quality was not great) Dhalphir 07:10, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot condensed 

message: I removed the tables from the Characters section and moved them to List of Need for Speed characters#Carbon. 
The tables took up way too much room in the article, and would be considered information which is not necessary in the main article. I added a link to the main article, and wrote a couple of sentences about the characters in the game. Hopefully this looks better.
Dhalphir 05:32, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I smoothened up the edges a bit more on the major crews list to avoid a "You" focus--compare them and feel free to revert and/or edit to how you want it to look like. 71.57.74.109 12:13, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters section 

message: Edited that section to make it look a bit more general, although it looks awkward.  Feel free to either edit and/or revert to the way you see would make the article look more beautiful. 71.57.74.109 12:35, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cars section

message: I've went over the Sountrack section of the section and saw a list.  Do you guys think that Sountrack lists are against Wiki norms?  Just curious because I know now that car lists are now against Wiki norms.  Please advise. 71.57.74.109 12:37, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soundtrack 

message: Fixed the article to make it look concise albeit shorter.  The article is still a mess so if you think you have what it takes to beautify the article, give this article what you've got. 71.57.74.109 13:54, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mass condensing/article-fixing today 

message: Reverted this
A string of final races between the player and "Stacked Deck" ensues with the player coming out as the victor in spite of Darius's efforts. Knowing what the rules are, Darius painstakingly surrenders his Audi R8 Road Car (called the Audi Le Mans Quattro in-game) and exiles himself from Palmont but not without warning the player that "there's always someone out there who's a little faster than you are, and sooner or later they're gonna catch up." He Leaves Palmont for good with David in his Jaguar XK
Please provide a citation, screenshot, or other form of evidence that this is indeed a Jaguar XK. Thanks Dhalphir 01:02, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plotline Revert 

message: Audi Le Mans Quattro
After looking at the Wikilink, it comes to my attention that the Le Mans Quattro, is without a doubt, the Audi R8 Road Car in reality.  Audi presumably allowed EA to use the R8 but at the condition of calling the R8 as being "Audi Le Mans Quattro" instead.  So, notating to reflect that the Le Mans Quattro is actually the R8 Road Car in real-life. 71.57.74.109 02:01, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  In-Game vs. reality 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:City layouts.jpg

message: Yeah, as the title says, for some reason, someone has deletd almost EVERYTHING related to advanced parts of the game, including -
*Characters - Seriously, even if the NFS Characters List was deleted, we should still get some info on the characters in the game.
*Pursuits - Alot of the information here disappeared too.
*Car Lists - Where'd they all go, I'm sure people'll wanna know what cars are ingame
*Images - The Images were a big help to alot of people, and now they're gone.
*Rival Crew Info - Alot of people'll wanna know about the crews too.
I rest my case, this article used to be very big and info-frfiendly, now it's like a basic description from a magazine.
:Please see WP:NOT specifically not a game guide or FAQ.  This article should discuss the games real world relevance in connection with its features not give detailed descriptions of every element.  Expansion would be welcome, but it should be real world info and it should be sourced.  People who want a list of cars or characters can go to gamefaqs. --Daniel J. Leivick (talk) 03:50, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Almost all information Removed? 

message: Can you list the sountdtracks on the page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.50.247.109 (talk) 10:47, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope. Soundtracks are generally only notable when released separately to the game. Even then, it's usually a case-by-case basis. Thanks! Fin©™ 10:50, 4 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soundtrack 

message: In the PS2 game it says there is a Camaro Concept?I have been unaccessable to that car.Is it in the PS2 version?SRT8 (talk) 21:37, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont think so..--Dwayneflanders ☺ 21:47, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
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thread_title:  2006 Camaro concept not included? 

message: Which cars aren't included in the PS2 verion of NFS Carbon?SRT8 (talk) 20:55, 26 October 2009 (UTC)
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thread_title:  Which cars not included? 

message: Under the Gameplay section, it is written;
'The gameplay is based upon rival street racing crews. Players run a crew and can hire specific street racers to be in their crew and the active friendly racer is known as a wingman. Each hirable street racer has two skills, one which is a racing skill (scout, blocker, and drafter) and a non-race skill (fixer, mechanic, and fabricator). Each skill has different properties from finding hidden alleys/back streets (shortcuts) to reducing police attention. Cars driven by the wingmen are also different; blockers drive muscles, drafters drive exotics and scouts drive tuners. In career mode, players have to race tracks and win to conquer territories and face off against bosses to conquer districts.'
I have issue with this section, and the line about wingmen that I have italicized in particular.
The first two wingmen you get (Neville, a blocker and Sal, a scout) will drive the same type of car you drive. If you have a tuner, so will they. They will also drive the same tier car you drive, so if you drive a tier 2 car, so will they.
The next 3 wingmen you can hire come from the crews you beat after gaining that quarter of the map. These wingmen will always drive the style of car that their crew drove. For example, Yumi, who comes to you after you beat the Bushido crew, will always drive tuners, as the Bushido crew did. And as with the first two, these next three wingmen also drive the same tier car you drive.
The last wingman you get, Nikki, drives her tier 3 Ford GT as she has done throughout many of the game's cut scenes.
I find it odd that a large portion of this gameplay section is devoted to the wingman feature, which could either be expanded to include the ability to upgrade the crews vehicles, or more reasonably, that it should be condensed, and more details of the actual gameplay be noted in this section. My proposal is as follows.
'The gameplay is based upon rival street racing crews. In career mode, players race on various street courses and tracks and conquer territories and face off against rival crew bosses to conquer districts. Police cars may intervene and attempt to bust the player during and in-between races, causing fines and the eventual loss of their car. The player has their own crew and sets a wingman to help in the races, who can either block other cars, scout shortcuts, or lead and let the player draft for more speed. 
The player wins prize money and unlockables as they win races, such as performance parts to be purchased, new styling upgrade choices and additional tiers of cars to buy and race with.
During the game, the player can hire up to two street racers for their own crew, one of which can be a wingman to race with the player. Each crew member has a special Race and Career skill. Race skills include blocking rival cars from passing, or scouting a shortcut during the race. Career skills include discounts on performance parts or lessening the amount of police presence for the player.'
I feel my revision gives a more balanced summary of the gameplay than what currently stands, in addition to including the police aspect of the game. If no objection is raised, I would like to change the 'Gameplay' section to my revision.
As of now, I have no references to cite aside from my own gameplay experience, or by citing the NFS Wikia page at (http://nfs.wikia.com).
Neworderrr (talk) 11:19, 22 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: A player can't get busted during a race, but the cops can impede the player's car. If the cops are activated during a race, then the pursuit will start after the player continues from the post race stats menu. Rcgldr (talk) 10:39, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gameplay section - Wingman error 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Skip to 3:35 and pause it as needed of this video from the Carbon collectors edition, which includes the storyline for the character Nikki: Nikki was 19 when the main character left Palmont, and 24 when he returns, so the flashback would be 4 to 5 years prior (2001 or 2002) to "present day" (November 2006). Carbon collector's edition storyline video. This is also mentioned on page 27 of the official guide for Carbon: Need for Speed Carbon Prima_Official Guide. This would place the flashback scene 4 to 5 years prior to Carbon, much earlier than just a few months prior to Most Wanted (late 2005). Rcgldr (talk) 21:02, 21 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot - According to game storyline video, flashback is 4 to 5 years ago, not just months before Most Wanted 

message: Need For Speed High Stakes had an exclusive online game mode, lap knockout. After each lap, the last place player's car would be replaced by a large dump truck, which the player would typically drive backwards to ram or impede the remaining racers. Assuming a full race with 8 players, the event ended up with 6 players driving trucks, and 2 players racing. Rcgldr (talk) 10:49, 20 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carbon was the first Need for Speed title to feature online exclusive game modes - not true 

message: This is mentioned in the article, but not anywhere within the game, or the materials in the game. Furthermore, there aren't any career mode tracks where the exotics can reach top speeds that the muscle cars can (specifically tier 2 Charger RT or tier 3 Z06). To set top speed records, infinite nitrous, infinite crew member cheat codes are needed, while running on the South Fortuna track, a non career mode track that includes a long stretch of Hwy 142, drafting Nikki on Hwy 142 with the player also in a Ford GT using infinite crew member and nitrous to get speeds up to 522 kph == 356 mph. Breaking out of the draft results in a brief moment of even more speed, but it's mostly random. None of this is mentioned within the game or any guide, and only mentioned in youtube videos, and fan forum sites that were shut down long ago. Rcgldr (talk) 20:59, 15 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  car types - exotics (speed), muscle (acceleration), tuners (handling) - characteristics not mentioned in game. 

message: If the player crashes through a barrier - it's an instant loss (restart (back to the first stage) is an option at this point, and I don't recall if any cash is lost). It's also possible for Wolf to crash through a barrier, but this is a canned sequence at a specific barrier near the end of the run, it rarely happens, and it's not clear if anything the player does can trigger this, as it appears to be random. Despite hoax videos on youtube, only Wolf can crash through a barrier. I'm not sure if this should be added to the article or how to simplify the explanation. Rcgldr (talk) 17:30, 16 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Career mode - canyon duel - career mode - crashing through barriers