Talk:Cruising (film)

message: There was no image in the infobox, so I added an image of the original poster.  Unfortunately, the one I retrieved from impawards.com has some rather unsightly folds.  If someone could locate an original poster image in better shape I would appreciate it. Thanks.  Reimelt 17:56, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
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message: I agree with the comments made above.  For full disclosure, I really enjoyed the film, but this article is so impartial it acts as one part spoiler and two-parts rant.  It needs some serious editing. Daveworksunion 17:35, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  rant 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I have re-worded the section on the hate crimes that were supposedly inspired by Cruising. A closer look at the citations shows that 
First, I modified the following sentence: "In The Celluloid Closet, Ron Nyswaner, screenwriter for Philadelphia, recounts how he and his boyfriend narrowly escaped a beating by a group of college jocks citing Cruising to justify the attack.[24]"  the citation is virtually copypasta from this article https://cinemaqueer.com/review%20pages/cruising.html, which states that Nyswanger was quoted from a documentary film adaptation of the book The Celluloid Closet. I have rewritten/paraphrased the sentence to more clearly indicate the source and to avoid copyright violation. 
Second, I modified the following sentence more substantially: "Two months after the film's release, a bar prominently displayed in the movie came under attack by a man with a sub-machine gun, killing two patrons and wounding 12 others. Friedkin refused to comment on the attack." Again, this is essentially plagiarized from the source. The cited source is Queer Males in Contemporary Cinema: Becoming Visible, by H. Hart Kylo-Patrick. Kylo-Patrick's source is a 1995 article by David Ehrenstein of the Bay Area Reporter. Ehrenstein's article repeats the claim of a shooting at the Ramrod bar (featured in Cruising), but does not give the name of the supposed shooter or the supposed victims. http://www.ehrensteinland.com/htmls/library/cruising.html The section has thus been more dramatically re-written to track down the sources and explain the circumstances. 
I have no reason to doubt Nyswaner's account. I have extremely high levels of doubt about the veracity of Ehrenstein's story. Given the controversy and attention the film received, I find it nearly impossible to believe that a shooting at a NYC gay bar that was featured in Cruising would not have been mentioned anywhere before 1995. Maybe someone else can find more reputable sources for this alleged event. If so, by all means please add them to the article. 
I have also restored Camille Paglia's opinion of the film, which was inexplicably removed. She is a scholar or some renown, broadly sympathetic to LGBT issues, so her assessment of Cruising should be here.
LATER: I stand corrected. the shooting incident happened, though not exactly as described by Ehrenstein.  https://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/16/nyregion/new-yorks-own-anti-gay-massacre-now-barely-remembered-orlando.html
ZeppoShemp (talk) 23:48, 7 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see how the NYT contradicts Ehrenstein's words. Considering how unfair your initial assessment of him was (doubting that the shooting even happened at all) you should withhold your judgment.Rafe87 (talk) 05:28, 4 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hate Crime section 

message: Shouldn't it be mentioned what really great music came with this movie? Like Willy de Ville, Germs, John Hiatt,... 193.196.237.21 (talk) 06:07, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure! Do you have sources that have discussed it? DonIago (talk) 06:23, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this an acceptable source for this article? https://www.discogs.com/de/release/411146-Various-Cruising-Music-From-The-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2003:C8:F48:4020:3FCE:85D:C730:E270 (talk) 17:13, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nobody talks about the music?