Talk:Kinesics

message: It was proposed to merge Body language into Kinesics.
*Oppose. These are different topics: the latter is a study, the former is the subject of study. For example, no one is going to merge Language into Linguistics. mikka (t) 04:33, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm wondering what you mean by "subjects like kinesics"? The page linked to describes Synergologie ® as nonverbal communication rather than body language. I guess body language is a subset of NVC, as are gesture, facial expression, eye contact, proxemics, object communication, proteans (body language)... Kinesics, I guess, is a way of recording and interpreting physical movements. How do you think these topics should be organised? ntennis 22:28, 17 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the merge is a good idea for anyone that is willing to spend the time to do it. --Etni3s 05:45, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge proposal

message: ::This has got me thinking that a nonverbal communication article series box might help, something like you can see in the Christianity or Sexual orientation articles. However, the NVC page really needs some work to serve as the parent article for the series. ntennis 02:59, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see. Good idea there. So we start from non-verbal communication, with the daughter articles being body language, sign language, kinesics, and synergology (or something of that sort). Dessydes 16:20, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. I think that would be a useful place to start. But I'm still getting my head around some of these topics and trying to understand exactly how they fit together. Prosody vs paralanguage, for example. Does paralanguage include body language? Some say it is only vocal sounds. Does body language include eye contact? What exactly is the difference between synergology and kinesics? Is it just a brand thing? Also, it is sometimes said that the true sense of the adjective verbal is ‘of or concerned with words,’ whether spoken, written or signed. However, verbal is also commonly used as a synonym for oral communication, which would not include sign languages or writing. I'll try to add something to the NVC article. But go ahead with the series box now if you want! ntennis 03:06, 21 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Although I could answer some of your questions here, I'm not going to. Instead I'm going to go ahead and create the NVC topic as per our discussion. There will be other users contributing in time. Your questions should inspire others to come up with answers. We can pull this off. Dessydes 09:59, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Good work. Some of the pages we've discussed can definitely go in there already. I'm also wondering about graphic symbols, semaphore (communication), and linguistic gradient phenomena like "looooong" in spoken language or [shaped-like-this] in sign language. Should we move this discussion to the new category talk page? ntennis 16:30, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I chose to name the article in capitals, 'cos I've noticed you refer to it as NVC, however I can rename it, it is simply a matter of deleting the old one. Tell me what you prefer on my talk page. Once you've decided, it might actually be a good idea to continue the discussion from there (the category page). Semaphore (communication) could possibly fit in there, the things that really get me thinking (and I seriously doubt they could fit in there) are things like text messaging, etc. Dessydes 21:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

text: What do you think of that? It is clearly incomplete, but it is a good start?
 Communication
  Prosody_(linguistics)
   |_Intonation
  Paralanguage
   |_NVC
       |_Body Language (Kinesics and Synergologie)
David Latapie (✒ | @) — www 16:28, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Communication box