Talk:Deva Victrix

message: #Article needs to be expanded and the structure and sectioning improved.
#References and Citations are crucial for wikipedia, and so these must be added as the article is expanded. (See WP:References, WP:V, and WP:CITE for guidance.)
 DDStretch  (talk) 00:51, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment Report

message: Looks good.  Just a few suggestions for improvements:
*The last sentence of the lead does not make sense - should the word "where" be omitted?
*History, para 2. "required as much as 2,400,000 litres (530,000 imp gal) a day" - of what?
*Under Legio XX Valeria Victrix, para 2.  "To the east was the legions parade ground" - should there be an apostrophe?
*Ditto, para 3. "leaving Deva under garrisoned" - hyphen between under and garrisoned?
*Decline and abandonment, para 1. "the Legio XX Valeria Victrix – nor any other military units – was not on recorded as being garrisoned at Deva," does not make sense.
*Legionary baths, para 2. "Also part of the complex, but unsheltered, an exercise yard (palaestra)." Sentence without a verb.
*Next sentence. "The baths were heated hypocaust underfloor heating" - does that need a "by"?
*Ditto para 4.  "Remains of the baths include columns from the exercise hall...." - this sentence needs attention, maybe a "which".
*Capital of Britannia?, para 1. "The building was located near centre of the fortress" - "the" before centre?
Good luck!  Peter I. Vardy (talk) 09:04, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Done, I'll nominate it at FA later today. Nev1 (talk) 10:00, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Now nominated. Nev1 (talk) 10:16, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Towards FA 

message: Roger Davies asked me to have a look at this. I've given it a copy edit, and the comments below are intended to help guide the process of brushing the article up before another nomination for FA. Congratulations to the main editor for all his work in researching and constructing this article: I am sure it can be nudged past the post.
*I found the grid ref obtrusive at the beginning (some articles put them in the top right corner, as, for example, at Thurso). In fact, I found the repeated inclusion of sizes and dimensions pedantic and damaging to the prose, but perhaps that's because I can't picture the size of anything from measurements. I find sentences such as the following indigestible and wonder if some of this sort of measuring could go in the notes: The new stone fortress walls were 1.36 metres (4.5 ft) thick at the base and 1.06 metres (3.5 ft) thick at the top.[24] Located at regular intervals, approximately 60 metres (200 ft) apart, along the walls were 22 towers about 6.5 metres (21 ft) square.[25] The defensive ditch was re-dug and was 7.5 metres (25 ft) wide and 2.45 metres (8.0 ft) deep.[25] An estimated 55,452 metric tons (54,576 LT/61,125 ST) of stone were used to build the new fortress defences.
**The co-ordinates have been moved to the top right as suggested. As for measurements mid-prose I understand your concerns, but believe that the measurements are important. I think the best way to deal with this would to be include diagrams or plans wherever possible. Nev1 (talk) 19:45, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Much better. qp10qp (talk) 13:13, 11 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pre-FA review

message: Can bibliography be separated in primery (Tacituc etc) and Secondary sources?--Vojvodaeist 12:05, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point, done. Nev1 (talk) 13:13, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Bibliography

message: Hi, I am suggesting the creation of separate articles for Canabae legionis (especially), Legionary quarry and Legionary baths, since they are generic concepts, similar to Vicus, Castra, Pagus etc. They shouldn't be buried in an specific Roman town article.--Codrinb (talk) 19:07, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think a generic canabae legionis certainly needs its own article, but would legionary baths be subsumed into the article on Roman baths? Unfortunately, there's no article on Roman mining, let alone a legionary mine; the closest there is is mining in Roman Britain. The sections here are specific to Deva Victrix and while those articles could (and probably should) be created I don't think there's a need to remove the information from here. Nev1 (talk) 19:16, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separate articles for canabae, legionary quarry 

message: In Revision History Dougweller says:  "why would we care about Egyptian measurements in this article?"
Because the building resolves into whole number units of measure in the Egyptian Royal cubit.  100 x 60.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tatelyle (talk • contribs) 12:51, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine. Show us an academic source meeting WP:RS discussing the Royal Cubit and Deva Victrix and we'll discuss it. Otherwise it's original research. Doug Weller (talk) 14:11, 11 July 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This editor turned out to be a sockpuppet of fringe author Ralph Ellis. Doug Weller talk 12:46, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elliptical building measurements 

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