Talk:Paige Patterson

message: I rewrote the article on the temp page to replace copyright violation Rx StrangeLove 02:13, 1 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

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thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:WikiProject_Biography/Assessment#Class_parameter|Biography assessment rating]] comment 

message: This article doesn't discuss any of the controversies in which Dr. Patterson has been involved throughout his career, nor does it discuss the effects of his adminstration on SWBTS such as the precipitous drop in enrollment. Xenophore 21:40, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the whole section should go - it's not really relevant, and definitely lends undue weight to the article. StAnselm (talk) 23:40, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree, and would like more discussion before this stuff is deleted. Paul, in Saudi (talk) 00:39, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

text: I'm happy to discuss it more, but I removed it per WP:BLPREMOVE. Not only do we have the question of relevancy, but it is also unclear that ethicsdaily.com is a reliable source. StAnselm (talk) 01:03, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

text: Rev Patterson reflexively defended men of the cloth who were accused of sexual offenses at a time when the number of predators in religious vocations was well-known. At a time when the claims of those abused were widely accepted, he was spring-loaded in an "attack the victim" mode. This seems to be important. At the very least, we can see that he does not "get it." Paul, in Saudi (talk) 01:56, 2 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: The section on his family seems to be coped directly from the school's website , and the website says it's copyrighted. 
98.27.7.29 (talk) 02:44, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: Deleted this comment as I see we have discussed the redaction. (Still I think it is important.)Paul, in Saudi (talk) 03:47, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Sex Abuse Comments

message: Hi, I have had a quick look and can not see ANY reason listed here why this guy is notable, then looking at the net I see self published or his church published items only, if he is notable for controversies as hinted above surely these need to be listed with sourcesThe Original Filfi (talk) 06:12, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Clearly passes WP:PROF, #6. StAnselm (talk) 06:21, 18 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notability 

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message: Baptist leader who advised abused women not to divorce doubles down, says he has nothing to apologize for Ed Stetzer has suggested he retire and not give the sermon at the Southern Baptist convention later this year. "“If Paige Patterson preaches at the SBC, he will, because of his past work, get a standing ovation,” Stetzer wrote in a blog post for Christianity Today. “Every news story will point to that moment … and say that Southern Baptists don’t take abuse seriously. … It’s a message to women that we must not send.”" Doug Weller talk 17:43, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: We, that's hardly a "backlash". Stetzer has a long history with Patterson (as he mentions here). StAnselm (talk) 19:27, 6 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Clearly, but that's just one example in the article. Doug Weller talk 12:58, 7 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Might be due more detail given coverage like https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/05/sbc-patterson/559532/ --Ronz (talk) 16:12, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: it looks useful and shows that this is a significant issue. Did you see the video thr article links to? Look at his face. Doug Weller talk 16:26, 9 May 2018 (UTC)

text: It's by Jonathan Merritt, so I take it with a grain of salt. Look, this is certainly a significant event in Patterson's life, but we won't know how significant until the SBC meeting next month. If we report on a "backlash", we also need to mention the considerable support that he has received (regardless of whether it's the "tight-knit Southern Baptist boys’ club" or not). StAnselm (talk) 20:40, 9 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Refusal to apologise leads to backlash among evangelicals 

message: *"Southern Baptist Leader Removed Over Remarks On Rape, Abuse Of Women" https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/05/23/613604818/head-of-southern-baptist-seminary-removed-over-remarks-on-rape-abuse-of-women. There's plenty of coverage now... --Ronz (talk) 16:20, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure there's a lot. Doug Weller talk 18:34, 23 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Replaced as president of the Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary

message: I'm not looked for general consensus on whether or not the new, Emeritus position should be listed in the infobox, but it seems to me to be unimportant and detract from his notability. I realize that infoboxes often have POV problems in the way they highlight some information over others, and in the discussions I've been apart of, prominence and notability have been major points in deciding what is and is not included. --Ronz (talk) 15:25, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Check Strom Thurmond and see President pro temp Emeritus. If it is valid for a senator to have one, it should be valid. It is a high and honorable position.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.81.32.241 (talk) 23:19, 25 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  If you can find some independent sources to that effect, I'd agree, or at least some that are similar to those of President_pro_tempore_of_the_United_States_Senate#President_pro_tempore_emeritus. --Ronz (talk) 02:07, 26 May 2018 (UTC)

text: As there are no sources demonstrating it being so noteworthy, I've removed it again. --Ronz (talk) 20:19, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: New, Emeritus position in Infobox