Talk:Dry eye syndrome

message: :Research indicates that approximately 80 per cent of dry eye cases are due to a deficient or disrupted lipid layer, which leads to abnormally fast evaporation of protective tears and subsequent irritation. The lipid layer is the outside layer of the tear film which helps prevent the evaporation of the tears.  Professor Louis Collum, Consultant Ophthalmic Surgeon and Professor of Ophthalmology, Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland. 
Other research indicates the film does not evaporate but suffers de-wetting caused by a hydrophobic ocular surface - ref Frank Holly Phd  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.233.165.60 (talk) 21:12, 31 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Causes 

message: Tell me, does that bit about "Restasis" sound too advirtisementy? (it was added 11 March 2006 by 67.87.254.63)
:I don't know if that bit should be deleted but for the claim, it should certainly be backed by sources.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Seunghun (talk)
:A bit, but it's true. I added a source.-AED 05:47, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a little bit about the mechanism of action of the Restasis...  I wanted to include some history on cyclosporine, i.e. that it was discovered in 1972, that it has historically been known for it's use in preventing solid organ transplant rejection...but couldn't really find a good spot or way to incorporate it.  Maybe that can be added once the topic has been pulled out to it's own article.  --Kfanciulli 01:38, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The relevant article Ciclosporin has existed since 11:38, 27 November 2002 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality of section on Restasis 

message: Hi chaps, I've renamed the 'omega 3' subsection as 'fish oils' as the study cited by Miljanovic et al examined used questions on sea food consumption as a surrogate for omega-3 intake. Cross sectional surveys are open to confounding and it would be safer to report the study findings rather than the authors inferences. I've also amended my typo regarding the Arch Ophth study Nernst (talk) 18:13, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fish Oils / Omega 3 / Alpha Lineolic Acid 

message: I'm trying to add Lacrisert to the medications section and it keeps on getting removed for being too advertorial. Can someone help with this?  It's an approved drug and has a full page on wikipedia. All of the info is right from the fda approved info. Not sure how this is different than the Restasis info. Thank you. --Astanger (talk) 21:14, 1 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The article on artificial tears is more specific for mention of a product such as Lacrisert. Note that the artificial tears article already briefly mentions Lacrisert in the Usage section. Restasis in contrast is not an artificial tear product. --IO Device (talk) 01:30, 2 February 2010 (UTC)

text: I suspect anything that is put in the dry eye article about Lacrisert will be removed. If you like, you can add a royalty free personally created image of Lacrisert in the Usage section of the artificial tears article. This will give it more exposure there. --IO Device (talk) 00:29, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

text: I've removed it and started an SPI case here. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 21:51, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

text: You can see my replies above dated 2 and 6 February 2010. --IO Device (talk) 11:33, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

text: In Wikipedia, information is to be included within the most specific article for that information. The article on artificial tears is a more specific place for Lacrisert. Note, by the way, that Lacrisert is already mentioned, albeit in brief, in that article. No particular artificial tear (or similar) product deserves mention in the current article. --IO Device (talk) 00:43, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

text: That seems like far too much information. I suggest what be mentioned is only how Lacrisert is different and special. As for mention of side effects, try to put any Lacrisert specific ones in the existing section on side effects. After you update the article, others can edit it as would be relevant. You can also add a picture assuming that you can obtain one with an acceptable license. --IO Device (talk) 15:36, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with IO Device as to how much information should be included.  Since we're talking about changing artificial tears and not this article, I suggest the discussion be moved over there so those watching that article can participate.  --CliffC (talk) 20:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Continue here. --IO Device (talk) 00:35, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding Lacrisert 

message: Maybe I'm missing something here, but Lacrisert does not have "a full page on Wikipedia" as stated above, but is only a redirect to hydroxypropyl cellulose.  Given that fact, today's addition of a section labeled "Lacrisert" and repeating that name 10 times seems inappropriate, should it remain?  The section was added by user User:RCWAMS, and is the same content added 17 February by User:AMSRCW, who received a warning for product promotion at the time.  --CliffC (talk) 20:45, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed it and started an SPI case here. Delicious carbuncle (talk) 21:51, 10 March 2010 (UTC)

text: You can see my replies above dated 2 and 6 February 2010. --IO Device (talk) 11:33, 1 April 2010 (UTC)

text: In Wikipedia, information is to be included within the most specific article for that information. The article on artificial tears is a more specific place for Lacrisert. Note, by the way, that Lacrisert is already mentioned, albeit in brief, in that article. No particular artificial tear (or similar) product deserves mention in the current article. --IO Device (talk) 00:43, 5 April 2010 (UTC)

text: That seems like far too much information. I suggest what be mentioned is only how Lacrisert is different and special. As for mention of side effects, try to put any Lacrisert specific ones in the existing section on side effects. After you update the article, others can edit it as would be relevant. You can also add a picture assuming that you can obtain one with an acceptable license. --IO Device (talk) 15:36, 6 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with IO Device as to how much information should be included.  Since we're talking about changing artificial tears and not this article, I suggest the discussion be moved over there so those watching that article can participate.  --CliffC (talk) 20:35, 6 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Continue here. --IO Device (talk) 00:35, 7 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  On adding Lacrisert: a question 

message: If this many symptoms must be added, I highly suggest they be entered in a LIST FORMAT.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lindendoss (talk • contribs) 18:08, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A normal list would waste horizontal space due to incomplete use of the available line width. This will greatly increase the amount of vertical space used. The current paragraph format allows the entire line width to be used. --IO Device (talk) 01:00, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: "Symptoms" format

message: It makes sense then one way to prevent the condition is to avoid contact lenses, no? 66.108.223.179 (talk) 13:49, 7 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Contact lense usage over a period of several years may very well induce dry eye. Soft contact lenses seem to be worse in this regard. It is therefore logical to either avoid their prolonged long term usage, or to at least religiously use contact lenses compatible lubricating/rewetting drops for the eyes throughout the day while the lens are worn. It is not known to me if the latter will prevent the development of dry eye disease. Of course not everyone who wears soft contact lenses for years (without the aforementioned drops) develops dry eye. Personally I wore them regularly for ten years before I developed it. As such, there probably are other concomitant factors that increase one's odds of developing dry eye—these are not known to me. Publication research might yield more info. --IO Device (talk) 19:06, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

text: FWIW, newer daily-use contact lenses are much better in this regard. They stay much wetter. Nevertheless, the use of an adequate compatible preservative-free lubricant is nevertheless recommended with them.--Hyperforin (talk) 04:20, 12 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contact lenses can induce dry eye. 

message: Per the notice on the top of this talk page, the guideline WP:MEDRS should be followed when selecting sources for this article. I will tag what I feel are the unsuitable references so they can be replaced at some point. Lesion (talk) 15:56, 14 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[MEDRS]] 

message: Having suffered severe dry eye symptoms for years, I now use a combination of annual total punctal cauterization of all four puncta, Restasis, and synthetic vitamin A 10000 IU as retinyl palmitate daily for close to complete management of dryness symptoms, to the point where I rarely need to use lubricants, except when using contact lenses. It is not that my eyes are now more wet; they aren't, but they don't feel dry or irritated anymore. Note that vitamin A as beta carotene is not similarly effective, and a lower dose of 5000 IU is not comparably effective either. For some reason, vitamin A as cod liver oil hasn't worked for me either, only the synthetic form has, and I don't know why. Relevant scientific information about vitamin A supplementation for dry eyes is pending inclusion into the article. --IO Device (talk) 20:04, 4 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Management 

message: Different information for listing of K'Sicca here
http://timdietrich.me/icd-10/cm/H16.221/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.108.69.219 (talk) 21:32, 17 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Code May Be Incorrect  

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message: Contact lenses don't cause dry eye disease afaik, but they typically do worsen the symptoms while the lens is in use. Having said that, some contacts are much more hydrating than others. --Acyclic (talk) 04:50, 17 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: They result in the symptom of dry eyes  Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 04:18, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the link. There are two conditions that have to be true for this to have a possibility of happening: (1) Modern hydrating lenses are not used, and older variants that are far less hydrating are used instead. Lenses have evolved since 2005. (2) Rewetting drops for contact lenses are not used (assuming the absence of punctal plugs or cauterization). I personally recommend Oasis Tears brand. I have no CoI with any brand. Technically I recommend RF cauterization to eliminate the dependency on these drops. --Acyclic (talk) 20:12, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Do we have a newer source that comments on contact lenses? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 07:35, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contact lens clarification 

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message: I have excised this section as it was built on unreliable (i.e. non-WP:MEDRS) sources. This was particularly unfortunate as the current science is pointing in exactly the opposite direction that Wikpedia was.. Alexbrn (talk) 10:53, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fish oil