Talk:Revolution 9

message: On a part of this song (played backwards) you can clearly hear a woman say "Satan, look at me, please".
You can check it yourself, personally I hate this song in anyway.
:Oh nos! freshacconci talktalk 14:19, 23 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  There's actually a satanic message in this song 

message: In the text I find "it was primarily the effort of John Lennon. George Harrison, Ringo Starr, and Yoko Ono made small contributions, while Paul McCartney did not actively participate in the track's creation."
In another web page McCartney is credited for playing the piano in the opening.. And Ono is not credited. So what is correct?  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.186.243.107 (talk) 09:34, August 21, 2007 (UTC) 
There is no evidence that Ringo Starr participated in the recording process. Likewise, there is no evidence that:
1. The piano introduction to "While My Guitar Gently Weeps" is present.
2. Excerpts from "Honey Pie" and "Martha My Dear" are present.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.243.227.208 (talk) 04:10, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who recorded this song?? 

message: Whoever is in charge of this article should add McCartney as a writer. Your article says McCartney wrote the "can you take me back where I came from, Brahma can you take me back ..." section, which ended up as the beginning of Revolution 9. Even though McCartney did not write it for that purpose. I can hear Lennon's voice singing it, does anyone know if the piano for that part was taken fron the McCartney recording of that song fragment, or was it Lennon playing? In any case, if your article is correct McCartney is a co-writer.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.10.28.237 (talk) 15:54, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The article says that "Can you take me back" was one of two unrelated segments between "Cry Baby Cry" and "Revolution 9". Most sources do not consider it part of "Revolution 9". It was recorded many weeks after final mixing of "Revolution 9". In the Barry Miles book (see References) on page 499, McCartney is quoted as saying (about Lennon and "Revolution 9"): "He went off and made that without me." The piano player isn't known with certainty; it's sometimes assumed to be either Lennon or from an archived recording. By the way, Wikipedia articles are not owned. –Mainstream Nerd (talk) 23:47, 15 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add McCartney as a writer 

message: The recordings aren't of soccer chants, but of (American) football chants, and I'm changing the page accordingly.  I consider myself an afficionado of both sports, and while I have heard the chants of "hold that line" and "block that kick" used in many an American football game (particulary at the high school and college level, where chanting is much more common), I've never heard them once used in a soccer game, in any league, any country, any level.  I suppose you could conceivably chant "block that kick" for penalty shots, but I can't even conceive of a situation in which "hold that line" would make any sense at all!  Of course, the accents of the chanters are clearly American, and this should tip you off, too.  But to lay the matter to rest, see this handy-dandy list of American football cheers.  If anyone can find a list of soccer cheers that includes "block that kick" and "hold that line", feel free to change it back.
:You're almost certainly correct since the crowd sounds were taken from the Elektra Sound Effects album set which was produced in the U.S.
::I too can confirm the Elektra Sound Effects connections. ( Originally issued as six seprate albums , later conveniently sold as a vinyl six disc box set.) Not only was the "Football Chant" used , but numerous other effects from the set are used as well.75.104.162.82 (talk) 00:53, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Football Chants 

message: yeah....
Agreed, its the creepiest song I heard. The first time I listened to it I got so freaked out I couldn't finish it and had to skip it.
I love this song! I think it's awesome! --Ian911299
Lol, you and the millions of other kids who bought this album in the 60s bro
Yeah, creeps me out too. TheContralto 04:10, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And in response to the previous comment, that's the beauty of stereo sound recording!  Whenever a part of the song travels to the other ear, I follow the path with my eyes each time. Sounds weird, but try it some time, and it will stick with you!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.225.128.152 (talk) 23:31, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  this song scares the crud out of me 

message: Can anybody CONFIRM that, this is, indeed the backward version of dis song?
:Just stick it in Windows Sound Recorder and reverse it to see.Mr.hotkeys 01:26, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  okay, so I was done listening to the backword version of this song.... 

message: The 3rd episode of Flying Circus (with the theme "How to recognise different types of trees from quite a long way away") has the voice-over "Number 1: The Larch" frequently repeated throughout. MP's FC started in '69, so it's not much of a stretch to suggest it's a reference. - AlKing464 10:37, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fellow Python fan here ... erm ... no. The Python sketch is based more on grade school educational slide shows , of a much earlier era. Children were show slide shows on all sorts of subjects , trees , flowers ,animals , etc. Oft times the slide mechanism would jam , and you'd get repeats. ( Although , the teachers , who would speak the descriptions of the images from a book , probably wouldn't repeat the information , they'd probably curse under their breath as they tried to un-jam the slide projector. ). If there was a Beatles connection , at the very least , Eric Idle would've claimed it by now!75.104.162.82 (talk) 01:06, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Monty Python connection 

message: The text states "influenced by the musique concrète styles of Karlheinz Stockhausen and John Cage" - however neither Stockhausen nor Cage were exponents of musique concrète, it was originated by Pierre Schaeffer at the RTF Studios in Paris.  Stockhausen was interested in "Elektronische Muzik" and Cage in indeterminicy.  Please check this on the electronic music pages.  The text should be edited to reflect that musique concrète was a development of Schaeffer.  203.173.147.98 10:22, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is true.  Also Iannis Xenakis was a huge expositor of Music Concrete. Indigocat (talk) 06:45, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  music concrete 

message: The voice who keeps saying "Number 9..." almost certainly is Yankee public address announcer Bob Sheppard. 216.179.123.146 00:44, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The article states it is from an EMI examination tape. Page 307 of the Beatles Anthology book quotes Lennon from 1970 saying it "was an engineer's voice" and that "the voice was saying: 'This is number nine megacycles.'" I agree with you insofar as it would be interesting to find out the man's name. Richard K. Carson 02:45, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Voice of NY Yankees 

message: The article states that Vincent Bugliosi "came up with the theory" regarding Charles Manson making the connection to Revelation 9, but the next paragraph states it as fact that Manson made the connection.  StaticElectric 02:44, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction in section about Charles Manson 

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message: Is Revolution 9 really properly described as a "song"?  It would not seem to conform to any definition of the term I've been able to find.  I propose "recorded composition".  
Jgm (talk) 20:30, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "Song"?

message: I looked this song up and got this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Revolution_9&oldid=219151817
I reverted it. --Particleman24 (talk) 20:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Every I hear Revolution 9, I swear that I can hear parts of Strawberry Fields Forever and other songs mixed in. Can anyone shed some light on my question, please? 71.225.128.152 (talk) 23:34, 8 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Backward song snippets? 

message: Oh boy, yet another Simpsons reference crammed into an unrelated article. It adds nothing, I repeat, nothing to an understanding of the song and is no more relevent than the lists of trivia that are routinely deleted on Wikipedia.70.91.35.27 (talk) 21:56, 9 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Simpson...again???? 

message: It's a valid reference.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.18.94.203 (talk) 13:17, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which references adds something? 

message: Is this consensus description for the song?  Because following the link, I don't find a description that really comes close to what R9 is.  I've heard it described as a sound collage, which fits better, but my own preference (as mentioned here some time ago) would be simply be "recorded composition".  I will wait for discussion here before changing.  Jgm (talk) 23:45, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and made the change, linking the term farther down in the lead, and requesting a citation for the bald claim of influence.  Looking back, the change in description was made about a year ago by an anonymous editor (prior to that it was "sound collage", prior to that it was "song").  Jgm (talk) 17:46, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally I think that 'Sound Collage' is a very accurate description. Indigocat (talk) 06:47, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[musique concrète]] 

message: According to backmasking, the term refers to a message deliberately recorded backwards, this is not the case in this 'song' 83.70.255.135 (talk) 02:24, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Backmasking' 

message: The first time I heard this song, I couldn't hear the conversation. However, I knew that part had profanity. Near the middle of the song, there is a part that says something like "joining the fucking navy". I never knew that part was there, then I looked up the lyrics. Mjfan98 (talk) 16:42, 26 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: This is true, but there is a use of "Cheeky bitch" at the beginning Namealreadytak (talk) 02:46, 20 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Profanity Use 

message: Published 2017: Lennon on Lennon, a collection of interviews (not the Rolling Stone of PLayboy interviews, though).  I added a quote in the "Interpretation" sub-section.--Daveler16 (talk) 16:07, 4 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  New reference 

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message: For the final episode of the TV series The Prisoner, the Beatles allowed "All You Need is Love" to be used during a couple of scenes. At about the 30 second mark of "Revolution 9" (as timed from a Youtube upload), a piece of reversed music is heard which strongly resembles the theme music to The Prisoner. Is it known if this was intentional or a coincidence? The final episode of The Prisoner, which features the Beatles song, first aired in February 1968, well before R9 was recorded. 23skidoo (talk) 17:40, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Prisoner connection?

message: I have changed the Development section to include information on how the Beatles knew about Stockhausen and Hymnen.  This was told to me by my brother-in-law, conductor Gary Brain.  Gary had been sent on a NZ government scholarship first to Berlin, where he played under Von Karajan, and then to the Covent Garden Orchestra.  He was in London when the lectures were given on Stockhausen.  Although he did not say that he attended the lectures himself (I got the impression he had not - probably he was in London too late), he later in NZ gave a series of school concerts throughout the country where he introduced children to the music of Stockhausen.  It should be noted that Stockhausen had invited John Cage to lecture in Cologne in 1968; later rival 'Cage schools' and 'Stockhausen schools' were to grow up in the latter half of the 20thc.  Gary played me Kontakte from D.G.'s 1974 'Stockhausen's Greatest Hits (the Hymnen section on this album is very like Revolution No.9), Messiaen 'et Expecto', and Penderecki's 'Threnody', which was a part of the NZ School Certificate syllabus. After hearing Kontakte I rented the only Moog 12 in NZ for a weekend from a music shop in Auckland, and these later, most especially Stockhausen, influenced my decision to later become a composer under the name My Melbourne Down. 
This is Stockhausen's 'Trans' (1971).  It certainly knocks hell out of The Beatles!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9lUZR6_N1w
Indigocat (talk) 06:31, 9 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool. Any sources?--TangoTizerWolfstone (talk) 21:41, 10 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition of info on Stockhausen lectures 

message: The 50th Anniversary version of The Beatles includes a bonus track that seems to match up with the description that this article refers to as 'Take 20' of "Revolution". However, this track is listed as 'Take 18' on the re-release. I think there should be some sort of note noting this development in the release history of the song. HMJohnsen (talk) 03:17, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Take 20 or Take 18?