Talk:Danny Boy

message: "The song is widely considered an Irish anthem. It is nonetheless widely considered by many Irish Americans and Irish Canadians to be their unofficial signature song."
:These two sentences make little sense together. Can someone decipher their meaning, and make the necessary edit. I'm not sure if it means to say that it is not widely considered Irish in Ireland, but that it is sung by Irish-Americans or that even though it is popular in Ireland, it has become the anthem of the diaspora. —168.7.250.93 (talk) 02:00, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Widely What?

message: *Although some view the above interpretation of Danny Boy as the true meaning, there is also another meaning for this song. The lyrics were supposedly written by a father who lost his son, Danny.
The logic within the song suggests that 'the father' is in fact dying, and hoping his son, will return, lost as in not dead,  to say a prayer over him ?
The pipes are calling for the father ?
The Irish (born in Ireland) are quite adamant that it's NOT an "Irish song"(though the "air" is Irish).  Also, serious Irish groups(bands) do not perform the tune, if they have any self-respect.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Edknuff (talk • contribs) 19:48, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What Edknuff wrote is nonsense - the song is still played and sung in Ireland, as in many other countries. Hohenloh  +   13:07, 13 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boy is 'lost'....? 

message: Several editors are engaged in tit-for-tat changes in the opening sentence of the article as to whether the song is Irish.  No sources are presented to lend weight to either argument, and edit notes have been assertive rather than informative.  Let's grow up, discuss, and compromise.  Songs don't have passports: composers have nationalities, songs have cultural associations.  I would suggest an opening sentence of "Danny Boy" is a ballad written by Frederick Weatherly and usually set to the tune of  the "Londonderry Air": it is most closely associated with Irish communities.  Kevin McE (talk) 11:53, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Brilliant! Sorted. --Theosony (talk) 19:39, 21 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I only posted it because of your support, and the lack of voices to the contrary.  Now you revert and tell me to discuss.  I think you need to explain yourself. Kevin McE (talk) 20:06, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Sorry, I thought it was one of those irritating edits. Long, LONG day!! Sorry about that!--Theosony (talk) 20:19, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

text: If you read the lyric, it seems to apply as much to Scotland (pipes and glens) as it does to Ireland. And the lyric was written before it was set to the Londonderry Air.  Tsinfandel (talk) 14:51, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irishness and edit warring 

message: I dont ever remember there being a second verse nor have I ever heard it. please reply and tell me what you think.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.151.241.73 (talk) 00:25, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please post new topics for discussion at the bottom of the page.  Yes, there are two verses.  The second verse is the tearjerker.  When it is omitted, it is usually for the sake of brevity.  Any amount of research will confirm the second verse. -Verdatum (talk) 16:23, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  verse problem 

message: I have no problem listing every officially released recording of Danny Boy by Notable artists.  However, since the list is so very long, and effectively translates to "[Artist] recorded this in [year] on [album]", I suggest converting it to a sortable table. -Verdatum (talk) 16:15, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, that list is completely out of control. If it so important to mention that, this was sung by some jerk on Canadian idol, the there should be a separate page for List of People who have sung Danny Boy. There seem to be a lot of recordings of this song, even notable ones; but there seems to be no authoritative version. I think for that reason, maybe the list should be chucked altogether. Merging this page with the Derry Air would be an excellent pretext to do that.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.156.105.171 (talk) 19:44, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "Sung by some jerk on Canadian idol" generally would not be called an officially released recording, nor would "some jerk" be a Notable artist. So that wouldn't meet the criteria I stated.  Why does there need to be an authoritative version? I fail to see the relevance. -Verdatum (talk) 17:49, 15 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I added Maureen O'Hara's recording of the song on her 1962 album "Maureen O'Hara Sings Her Favorite Irish Songs" released in 1962 and reissued  in 1991 and again in 2011. I believe that her recording is worthy of inclusion  because although she wasn't recognised for her singing she was an accomplished singer and did record a few albums and sang in some of her films as well as on Broadway. Her acting career spanned 60+ years. She is  considered by Hollywood historians to be one of the most beautiful women ever to be in film and is  also considered by some to be a Hollywood Legend therefore she is a "Notable" person with a large fan base even at 93! Her recording of the song can therefore be considered 'Notable'. Although not known as a singer her recordings are still available on CD whereas many 'singers' cannot claim that. also many of her films are among those considered to be Hollywood Classics and finally as perhaps Ireland's first 'major star' her recording is relevant to the section, the content and the song.:~  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.32.29.1 (talk) 13:45, 11 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recordings 

message: On YouTube we can find this and more versions of this song by Mario Lanza.Questions:
Are they real and if so in what year(s) he recorded them?Patio (talk) 11:27, 5 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Mario Lanza]] 

message: Please note : There is a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Songs/coverversions with the purpose of trying to establish a standard rule for merge/separate different versions of the same song. Please make known your opinions on the matter. --Richhoncho (talk) 13:44, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge 

message: The sentence "Although the lyrics were originally written for a different tune, Weatherly modified them to fit "Londonderry Air" in 1913 when she sent Weatherly a copy. " is unclear - who is the "she" who sent a copy of the Air to Weatherly?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Scartboy (talk • contribs) 16:45, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Background 

message: You might mention the Beatles song "One After 909" - John Lennon sang 2 lines from "Danny boy" at the end. Kvsh5 (talk) 16:00, 13 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  One After 909 

message: I don't understand, I thought it was about sending a kid off to war?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.45.157.68 (talk) 10:39, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That is not an unknown interpretation, but note that it is the singer who stays and may die.  The quote comes from the writer after WWI, though the song was written before; he presumably knew what he intended. --Rumping (talk) 20:55, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "nothing of the rebel song in it, and no note of bloodshed". 

message: Adding a list of United States chart positions (without making it clear that they are from the United States) to a song associated particularly with Northern Ireland is not terribly helpful, and does not show the world view that is required on Wikipedia.  Has the song ever charted anywhere else (the United Kingdom and the Republic of Ireland would seem the most obvious countries)?  Skinsmoke (talk) 09:16, 19 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chart positions 

message: Should the new information researched by Anthony Mann, the great-grandson of Frederic Weatherly, be added to the article?  did that, and what he added was later removed.
Here are links to the web site and the book. -- DTRY (talk) 10:37, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  New information? 

message: I decide to replace the many variation of lyrics with the original one. The replaced lyrics is kept below. -- DTRY (talk) 10:48, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lyrics variation 

message: The present lyrics differs from the lyrics that is found in source [2] (I slightly corrected the link which is broken in the original file but which points now directly to the relevant section). Here are some of the most important differences:
* Line 3:  "and all the flowers dying," should be  "and all the roses falling," which rhymes nicely to line 1 "pipes are calling".
* Line 4: "tis you tis you" reads "It's you it's you" in the original. The same holds for line 7 ("It's I").
* some further little differences (line 9 does not start with "and", "Ye'll come" instead of "You come" in line 11 and so on).
The source I cite stems from 1926. Is there any good reference to the version of the lyrics presented now? If so, it is not given in the article. --Kaernbach (talk) 07:55, 27 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Lyrics 

message: On April 3rd 2016 Breadsnapper added "2016, Derek Collins, Songs and Stories, Lullaby version recorded by the Irish tenor/balladeer following extensive US tours" as a notable recording. Derek Collins has no page om Wikipedia and the link goes to his facebook page. The link to the song/album goes goes to http://play.coogle.com/store/... where you can buy the record. Notable recording? No! Adverisement? Yes!
The only other contribution by Breadsnapper was a similar link on The Unquiet Grave, soon removed by XLinkBot.
But XLinkBot missed this one, so I removed it as well! Episcophagus (talk) 09:05, 28 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who is Derek Collins? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: There are additional lyrics by Keith Evans, former member of BYU Vocal Point:
:O Danny Boy, the stream flows cool and slowly;
:And pipes still call and echo ‘cross the glen.
:Your broken mother sighs and feels so lowly,
:For you have not returned to smile again.
:So If you’ve died and crossed the stream before us,
:We pray that angels met you on the shore;
:And you’ll look down, and gently you’ll implore us
:To live, so we may see your smiling face once more,
:Once more.
Greetings Harry8 (talk) 11:04, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional lyrics 

message: We don't need to list every single instance the song was ever played. Right now, most of the entries are unsourced. Most entries also fall into one of the following categories:
* played in a movie, TV show, or video game
* a cover of the song, studio or live recording
* a cultural reference
The cultural references should definitely stay. I think the covers should be removed, and a majority of the movie/tv/game appearances should as well. Not to mention, many of these are poorly and inconsistently formatted. Any thoughts? I'll wait for a consensus before mass-removing, at least for now. Mformatt(So it goes.) 05:22, 4 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  So, I removed all the uncited or poorly cited examples.  Note: a random YouTube video is not an adequate cite.  A source has to show that the usage of the song is significant and notable, not merely that it happened. ---The Old JacobiteThe '45 00:02, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "Usage" section is getting out of hand 

message: My request is to add Bill Monroe to the list of artists who have recorded Danny Boy under the Meaning section. Rambler71 (talk) 13:10, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NiciVampireHeart 21:29, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 10 June 2019 

message: My request is to add Bill Monroe to the list of artists who have recorded Danny Boy under the Meaning section.
I can get the recording information also. Rambler71 (talk) 13:32, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. NiciVampireHeart 16:23, 11 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 10 June 2019 

message: Quote: "Frederic Weatherly wrote the lyrics in Bath, Somerset, England in 1913"
Quote: "English lawyer and lyricist Frederic Weatherly wrote the words to "Danny Boy" in Bath, Somerset in 1910"
Best regards -- 62.216.207.61 (talk) 15:53, 25 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  erm... 

message: The source for this was a broken link, but is available at [].  Not imo a reliable source.  Good topic though, so please restore (I suggest to separate section) if RS exist. Springnuts (talk) 21:27, 31 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unofficial [[signature song]] and [[anthem]] particularly by [[Irish American]]s and [[Irish Canadian]]s