Talk:Maternal death

message: Update causes
Jhum4993 (talk) 22:27, 29 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you could be somewhat more ambitious here. Health policy (talk) 04:45, 31 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Update definitions that are are related to maternal death. More goals will be posted later today. --Jhum4993 (talk) 21:07, 1 August 2019 (UTC)

text: I condensed some of the definitions of maternal death due to a few duplications in the first few paragraphs. Since it was already stated in the opening, I deleted the section titled "definitions". Allydiiorio (talk) 17:52, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foundations 2 2019, Group 6b Goals 

message: 1. a. Do the group’s edits improve the article as described in the Wikipedia peer review “Guiding framework”?
The article is improved as additional information regarding the incidence of maternal death is added. The section “The three delays model” provides additional information that is helpful in determining the risk of maternal death. It completes the article by offering a solution to the problem. The writing style is neutral, and it flows with the entire article. 
b. Has the group achieved its overall goals for improvement?
There were minimal updates to definitions, however the entire section dedicated to the three delays models is appropriate and provides information that is not provided anywhere else. 
2. Person C. Are the edits formatted consistent with Wikipedia’s manual of style? If not, specify…
The edits under “The Three Delays Model” stylistically flow with the rest of the article. The numbered series makes the section more organized and easier to read. Each sentence is cited which also makes the section more credible. The information under “Lifetime risk of maternal death” appears to not be important enough to have its own section. It can probably be combined with the “Severe maternal morbidity (SMM) section.
NoraCortez (talk) 06:21, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Nora! I agree that the lifetime risk of maternal death could be included in another section. I moved it to the measurement section. Allydiiorio (talk) 17:50, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nora's Peer Review (Group 6a)

message: 1. A) Do the group’s edits improve the article as described in the Wikipedia peer review “Guiding framework”?
The lead section gives a clear definition and lay language to understand the idea of maternal death. There was no edits made in the lead section. There is a clear structure that is logical such as section "Medical Technologies" followed by "Medications". There is a balanced coverage-- they added the "Medication" section which covers multiple types of treatment-- technology, medication, public health, etc. The content is neutral and derived from reliable sources such as WHO. The information in Wikipedia is based on scientific studies and guidelines. 
B) Has the group achieved its overall goals for improvement? 
Update causes , Update definitions that are are related to maternal death
The group did expand information for causes; they added additional unsafe abortion practices. They also added information of how to prevent unsafe abortion. The group added a section "The Three Delays Model" which gave further information of delaying maternal health care.
2. Is there any evidence of plagiarism or copyright violation?
No, the information is accurate, but it does not have evidence of plagiarism.
Sabrinabulla (talk) 16:26, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sabrina's peer review (Group 6A) 

message: 1a. Do the group’s edits improve the article as described in the Wikipedia peer review “Guiding framework”?
The leading section does a good job of giving an intro to the topic and stating what the article is going to cover. However, it seems that the leading section and the definition section are repeating each other. The section on lifetime risk of maternal defines what it is but doesn't show how the calculation is done. I think an example or more explanation of this would be beneficial. The article is written in a neutral tone. The sources used are reliable.
1b. Has the group achieved its overall goals for improvement? 
I think this article had a good amount of improvement although the goals for improvement were pretty vague. I liked the addition of the three delays model and the medication section.
2. Are the points included verifiable with cited secondary sources that are freely available? If not, specify…
The points added are verifiable and they are secondary sources that were written within the last 5 years.
Amandabair (talk) 17:09, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your review Amanda! I agree that the definition and intro paragraph are redundant. I condensed the two sections to be more concise! Allydiiorio (talk) 23:03, 7 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amanda's Peer Review - Group 6a 

message: 1a: Do the group’s edits improve the article as described in the Wikipedia peer review “Guiding framework”?
* This article is already quite extensive, but the addition of the Three Delays Model and the Medications to prevent maternal death was very insightful and appropriate for the article. Flow made sense and structure was organized in a way that made it easier to read.
1b: Has the group achieved its overall goals for improvement? 
* At this point in time the goals have not been updated, and are vague. However, the article has had many edits, including aforementioned Three Delays Model and Medications, in addition to reorganization of content and statistics, so this is a simple fix.
2a: Does the draft submission reflect a neutral point of view? If not, specify…
* The draft reflects a neutral point of view and has references that are readily accessible by the public.
Knguyen525 (talk) 17:58, 6 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  UCSF Foundations 2 2019, Group 6a: Kim Chi's Peer Review 

message: The article's overall status is that it is still developing but provides information that is needed right now. The article's strengths include its ability to clearly define different terms that are related to maternal death and it's detailing in some of the important discusses of maternal death. I think the article could be improved by including ethical issues of maternal death and expanding more into the importance of public health. I also believe the article needs to work on its numerical facts more and double-check those with scholarly research. The article is in the process of being developed. It is still missing key parts of the topic that should be included, but it is at a good starting point.
Discussion Question: How have different communities been affected by maternal death, such as black women and the working class?
-Mbgthinks (talk) 01:18, 30 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion Question and Evaluation 

message: How should racial disparities be addressed as it pertains to black women and maternal death? There seems to be an acknowledgment of the gap between the rate of black women and white women but there is no further explanation behind why that is. I think because this article is a start page/being developed that is a good starting point but is inherent to include a paragraph or more about the racial disparities in health care. Mbgthinks (talk) 01:36, 3 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black Women and Maternal Death 

message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect 20th century/Maternal death rates. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  1234qwer1234qwer4 (talk) 12:43, 15 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "20th century/Maternal death rates" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: I would like to ask for section of historical data
Through out entire possible history.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.187.202.138 (talk) 17:08, 23 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Historical Data 

message: Hello! I will be revising the Wikipedia article on black materiality mortality in the United States. This article needs revision due to outdated content and poor organization. I will delete certain sections and rearrange and odd other content to others. Check my sandbox for more information on this.Ferviani (talk) 16:31, 30 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revising Article 

message: I am working on this page as a part of my WikiMed course in my medical school curriculum. My current plans for updating include: 
-Update some wording in the introduction to reflect current vocabulary around pregnancy and mortality in the literature while maintaining accessibility 
-Check sources and assign new sources to reflect current data 
-Re-organize and expand the "Causes" section to include some high-yield patient-centered information about the top causes of maternal morbidity and mortality 
-Re-organize and expand the "Epidemiology" section to include some more information about maternal death in the US (specifically because this page is viewed significantly more frequently than the specific US maternal morbidity and mortality and I feel like having more information on this page might be helpful)
-Include more detailed information in the "Prevention" section for each of the leading causes of maternal death 
Please let me know if you have thoughts or considerations about this plan! 
HeidiCarpenter23 (talk) 23:54, 2 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiMed Assignment: Planned edits  

message: Hi Heidi! I already gave you most of my feedback over the zoom, so I'll just focus on summarising and some specific points.
You've done an incredible job with this so far! You've put in so much work to improving an originally not very well organised article, and I think that the remaining organisational issues for the article aren't going to be something resolved in one go.
Lead section: The lead section is much better organised now, with the improved definitions. I think that the bold italics font for the direct/indirect causes goes against the Wikipedia manual of style, but I may be wrong on that. I would also recommend having a broad overall definition as the first sentence, and then go on to explain how different organisations may begin. Much improved from where it started! Great job.
Organization: You've done excellent work in re-organizing parts of the page, including changing the order so that we have more terminology information at the start.
Neutrality and sources: You've been amazing at removing a lot of the non-neutral information on the page, especially regarding abortion, and replacing that with well-cited, scientific sources that display a neutral viewpoint, both indicating the relative lack of safety of illegal abortions and the signficiant safety of legal abortions compared to labour, focusing on how the problem of unsafe abortions is not the abortion, but the access to legality. You've also done a great job at bringing in the socioeconomic and racial considerations without either fearmongering or sugarcoating it, and again with excellent sources.
Completeness: The topic is vast and I do not feel like I personally know enough, but other than the small content details I mentioned to you on zoom such as the description of obstructed labour, I think that you generally hit every major question that I would personally have if I were looking at this page.
Things to consider or improve: As I mentioned, I think that the epidemiology section should be cleaned up and the references to maternal death in India specifically removed from the top, instead linked in the body, to avoid the inaccurate impression that they have extremely high per capita deaths.
Adding a description of obstructed labour would help round out the "Descriptions by Condition" section.
You could consider, as mentioned, cleaning up the unsafe abortion section to only include the couple of sentences specifically related to maternal death.
Finally, I would recommend some basic proofreading for copyediting, such as changing "Risks Factors" to "Risk Factors", or the first sentence under the unsafe abortion category not having a subject; I have fixed both of these since I noticed them, but you may want to look through them yourself.
Thank you for doing work on such an important topic!
Oddvector (talk) 21:54, 15 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiMed Peer review 

message: — Assignment last updated by Megagertz916 (talk) 05:16, 30 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Epidemiology ENPH 450

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thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: African American Studies

message: On 12/11/23 I made revisions. View my Sandbox for specifics. User:Skallasj4863/Maternal death - Wikipedia  Skallasj4863 (talk) 23:54, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revising Article 

message: @Dowhatyoulikelikewhatyoudo, I manually reverted your March 23rd edit. Would recommend adding your content in appropriate sections throughout the article; that much material doesn't belong straight in the lede. CaptainAngus (talk) 17:47, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manual revert of new text