Talk:The Birthday Massacre

message: This article needs additional citations for verification.
:: I just added about 50 new citations over the past couple days which are all good sources for fans of this band and can be checked and verified. Wikipedia is extremely strict on sources that don't come from mainstream media (such as NY times, Forbes, Etc.) For example they wont allow Rue-Morgue Magazine as a reliable source. This is a good idea for articles such as H2O or Moon but for band articles it ends up making for poorly sourced, poorly documented stub articles because wiki editors just delete them when they don't recognize them (even though they are sometimes relevant). Bands don't have the option to 'opt out' of Wikipedia search results but are at the mercy of the moderators who control their pages. Therefore please participate with this page to keep it relevant and updated with sources that are known. Your participation keeps this article relevant for newcomers. TBMforeverNowhere (talk) 23:38, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I also added  tags in places that need them. Please allow some time for other readers to add Citations rather then just deleting the sentence. TBMforeverNowhere (talk) 18:23, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  BTW, there are some much better citations out there in the news archives, such as articles by washingtonpost or villagevoice. Jason (talk) 10:48, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations 

message: For some reason Moderators will only allow for one link - thebirthdaymassacre.com TBMforeverNowhere (talk) 23:27, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  External Links 

message: Im having some buffer issues on my computer so if anybody else can be kind enough to check the time signitures on the video citations to make sure that they line up properly. TBMforeverNowhere (talk) 20:53, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video Citations 

message: I've redirected all but Rhim (who seems to have done some other things) here. --Eyrian 14:55, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Added other projects by adding "Associated acts" section. TBMforeverNowhere (talk) 20:54, 8 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirected member articles 

message: To be Clear: O.E. and O-en are not the same person. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.54.108.113 (talk • contribs) 18:00, 7 June 2007
:Now clarified in the article under the "Violet" section. TBMforeverNowhere (talk) 16:18, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification 

message: Please contribute more sources to help come to a consensus on how to describe the genre of this band,
Last FM
http://www.last.fm/music/The+Birthday+Massacre
Genres: industrial, gothic, synth-rock, electronic, female vocalists
Billboard
http://www.billboard.com/artist/the-birthday-massacre/500719
Genres: New wave
~ Jason Ankeny, All Music Guide
Fearnet.com
http://www.fearnet.com/news/reviews/b23417_birthday_massacre_imaginary_monsters_ep.html
Genres: gothic power-pop  — Preceding unsigned comment added by TBMforeverNowhere (talk • contribs) 08:18, 9 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre Sources 

message: I removed the statement that is was "generally associated with the goth subculture." In what sense of the word "generally" is it? The source that was listed was written by a 52 year old reporter with no credibility in terms of music. He is more reporting his experience with his daughter then an actual evaluation of the music and voices that he clearly does not know much about the music he is talking about; the daughter is the focus and he is conveying what it feels like to be in his position and look at this music from his point of view as an older man looking at youth. Of course he is going to think something is "punk" (like blink 182 lol) or "goth" because he has no idea.
:To not include Gothic Rock in the description of this band is grossly misleading. Ever since their inception they have had close ties with Toronto-Goth.com, VampireFreaks.com, Gothic Beauty, Zillo, Rouge Morgue Magazine among many other Gothic publications and live festivals. TBMforeverNowhere (talk) 02:02, 5 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Goth subculture 

message: Whoever was the mastermind behind the deletion of the synth rock page needs to think about what we're going to classify TBM as.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 221.213.8.103 (talk) 10:09, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The article on SythRock (redirected to SythPop) is there, so the article isn't gone.  User WesleyDodds changed the listing over the weekend to just Rock.  I'm no musical expert, but TBM sure doesn't sound like a generic Rock band, but then again I'm not so sure they fit being call Pop band (SythPop) either. --Brownings (talk) 11:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rock 

message: 124.104.125.245 Thought it would be a great idea to list The Birthday Massacre as Brutal Death Metal / Hardcore Punk. It could easily be seen that The Birthday Massacre is not Brutal Death Metal and shouldn't be compared to a band like Cannibal Corpse. I undid the change back to the  Alternative rock / Synth rock / Industrial music / Industrial.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Triesault (talk • contribs) 18:04, 17 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually it was me, 89.123 something and yeah, I thought it was a great idea.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.123.197.192 (talk) 15:11, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death Metal 

message: Well, there are multiple references to the same information in many places. Avoiding this alone will cut down the numbers substantially. --Freknsay (talk) 09:57, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Feel free to combine multiple references. I'm just trying to establish a base article first, then will purge later. Too much work to do this all at once by myself so im just trying to gather sources and citations first.  TBMforeverNowhere (talk) 18:28, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Ref Improve

message: Shouldn't the metal influence in some of their songs like "Blue" or "In the Dark" be mentioned somewhere?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:A:1202:2E7:24FC:692D:7302:928 (talk) 18:43, 22 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Metal 

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