Talk:Christ's Hospital

message: "The current Band Captain is Michael Baskerville, or "Bean" to his peers." is it really necessary to list the current band captain, especially considering other school posts (like the senior Grecian, or even permanent adult posts like headmaster) aren't listed? Is it really appropriate to put a child's name on here, especially when he's otherwise no one of consequence? And isn't it "beans" anyway? Perhaps a section on the traditional posts held at CH would be better.
Amo 19:26, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that any pupil's names should be listed, especially for particular positions, since they generally change at least once a year. Far better to provide more info about the school and its traditions (my connection with CH is that one of my sons is an Old Blue, well not that old really) Murray Langton 19:49, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: band captain

message: Can We get some images of the uniform, its a very unique part of the school and this page would benefit from a image showing what it looks like, I don't have any good quality images myself but im sure someone out there does
* Somebody got one of a painting of a boy in a uniform. WhisperToMe (talk) 21:14, 27 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Uniform

message: Are we sure that Bluecoast School identifies only this one school.  In History of Manchester this term seems to designate a different school. This may be along the lines of several schools in the U.S. referring to themselves as "The University", as UofVa is sometimes called, for instance.  WVhybrid 23:26, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of schools opened up in the model of CH. they copied it's charitable ends and it's style of dress and were also known as bluecoat schools. some of them still are, even in their formal title (unlike CH).Amo 15:06, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

text: There are several bluecoat schools, however CH is The Bluecoat School. It is bow also the only one that retains the bluecoat uniform for everyday use.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.199.207 (talk) 11:22, 11 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bluecoat School usage 

message: Do all people have to pay now? I didn't know that. Also, I reckon some of the contributors (myself included) are pupils or old blues, since they know so much, like about Beans being Band Captain (I didn't know that; only that this year it's Geoff Janes)...
The school is not charging some people on their means, now they are doubling some people's fees... leaving them almost nothing a month for their parents to spend on food etc and other essentials out of their hard earned money. For your sake, do not bother with this school....  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.107.16.155 (talk) 21:46, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Money 

message: Suggest we make category :Category:Old Blues (in :Category:People by schools in England) to replace list. Man vyi 09:33, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Or perhaps just a page, like List of Old Blues. Aboyall 18:55, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I created the :Category:Old Blues, but it was later renamed to :Category:Christ's Hospital Old Blues (see the CFD discussion here). But it need not replace the list, which is also worth having, as it can and does include notable OBs who don't yet have a Wikipedia article. Xn4 02:28, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of OBs 

message: Împortant alumni, oldish school, good article Victuallers 15:54, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Untitled

message: Under Accommodation - lists Houses - Details provided are incorrect for Thornton. Thornton named after Richard Thornton (1776 to 1865) who was a Merchant and Trader. He was at CH from 1785 to 1791. It is not named after Edward Thornton.Charlie52 (talk) 16:32, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Christ's Hospital (GAT Allan, revised Morpurgo) - the cited source - states (p.96 in my edition): "That a block was named for Sir Edward Thornton, an obscure diplomat, could be forgiven to an age which did not expect to find an ambassador among the products of a school whose sons were by definition born to families not blessed with the wealth or status... the sanctification of Edward Thornton has always been a blasphemy." The Thornton, regrettable though it might be, is indubitably Sir Edward. GAT Allan was at Housey in 1902 as a boy and later served as Clerk of the Foundation - a reliable source, I'd say. Man vyi (talk) 19:58, 6 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Thornton

message: Please see the discussion at Wikipedia:Categories for discussion/Log/2011 February 10#Former pupils by school in the United Kingdom. Moonraker2 (talk) 14:16, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old Wykehamists, Old Etonians, etc.  to become "Alumni of... "? 

message: The coat of arms depicted here is incorrect. The rose should be white, or in heraldic terms, argent. Escoville (talk) 12:30, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  coat of arms 

message: A pupil of Christ's Hospital , who is often the Senior Grecian, has the right to present a 'Loyal Address' to the sovereign on his or her way to or from their coronation. The first recorded instance was on August 3rd 1553 to Queen Mary  and the latest on June 9th 1953 on the steps of St Paul's Cathedral to H.M. Queen Elizabeth II. (sourced from 'Christs Hospital 400 years old', published by Christ's Hospital in 1953. No ISBN number recorded)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.43.213.15 (talk) 19:52, 20 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Traditions 

message: There seems to be an 'obsession' amongst contributors here in ensuring that every minute tradition of the school is included in the article. All of this fails to respect the 'tradition' and absolute requirement of Wikipedia that all content must comply with WP:V and WP:R, I.e. References must be included. For an article this size and a subject this famous the referencing is appalling. You regular contributors know where these references are, not me. Can we please add references to the article? The subject (the school) deserves it. Atlas-maker (talk) 20:03, 30 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Referencing

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The John Stow quote given above contradicts our claim that the current uniform has been used since 1552. 
Unfortunately the source cited in the article is not available online, however I have found this issue on Amazon. The cover suggests that this is not an academic journal but is a magazine aimed at the general leisure market. This is not the most dependable type of source and is reasonable to discount it.
Presumably the blue uniform mentioned by Stow for Easter 1553 is more-or-less the current uniform. I will change the date to 1553, citing Stow. Verbcatcher (talk) 15:24, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of uniform 

message: should be included in the main article. Not appropriate for a separate article  DGG ( talk ) 05:32, 5 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure about the reference, given that its not independent of the source. Anyone looking for confirmation would go to the school website anyway. Regardless, agree with merge, so  Klbrain (talk) 20:15, 14 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[The Doyle School of Design and Technology]] 

message: Why is the school called a hospital? Did it ever have patients?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 47.138.90.39 (talk) 03:16, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Because when it was first started in 1552 it was a hospital for vulnerable kids in the City of London, to provide accommodation and education for them. The word hospital had a broader meaning back then, it used to mean a place for people to lodge. Wymanb (talk) 03:52, 4 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is it called a hospital? 

message: I have restored the sexual abuse section in Drmies' version, which is even shorter than the short version I had intended to cut it down to. The abuse occurred over decades and multiple staff were found guilty and sentenced to prison terms; this goes beyond the norm and I thus do not agree that a short section constitutes undue weight. The other objection raised is that the school itself was not implicated: however, this is a boarding school and the BBC states that the abuse took place at the school. The 13 July BBC source: "found guilty of raping a 16-year-old pupil at Christ's Hospital School ... the sexual abuse at the school spanned more than 30 years and involved 22 victims". 5 July: "about their exploits with the boarding school students". Gotta go, sorry! Yngvadottir (talk) 13:38, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as the copy makes clear that the abuse took place at the school (haven't read it, and would rather not), I'm fine with a short bit in the history section. My biggest problems with the original were TOPIC, BLP and WEIGHT. Doc's version didn't address TOPIC. It's clear that it is topical now, so as long as WEIGHT hasn't been reintroduced by creating a subsection, as far as I'm concerned, we're done. Thanks to both  and . John from Idegon (talk) 17:31, 29 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sexual abuse section 

message: I am really uncomfortable about they way this have been removed for the page.  It feels wrong.  The issues at, for e.g. Repton, Chaterhouse, Ampleforth are all discussed abd are arguably not so extensive. 
I do think one sentence hidden way is not enough.   — Preceding unsigned comment added by StoneyLittleton (talk • contribs) 15:16, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The section had grown out of all proportion to the overall history of the school. The details can be found in the sources given.Charles (talk) 16:22, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  like all Wikipedia articles, this is a work in progress. There has been some recent changes back and forth over this, as you can see in the history of the article. It appears the current situation is that the content covering this topic is now somewhat less than one tenth the size it was a month or so ago. An argument could be made for more substantial coverage -- but some unregistered editors seem to think that an argument could be made for no coverage at all! Either way, those arguments should be made here on the talk page. (As has already been begun in the section above this one.) What aspects should the article cover, in how much detail, and why? MPS1992 (talk) 17:15, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: sexual abuse

message: Would there be any merit in adding a sentence or two about the relatively recent articles written by newspapers regarding the school's ties to slavery, as there is already a sentence on the sexual abuse scandals... (https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/may/03/elite-uk-schools-financial-links-to-slavery-revealed, https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2023/05/04/private-schools-slavery-links-virtue-signalling-fees-down/) Jel.boi (talk) 02:30, 19 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  ties to slavery