Talk:Pinoy hip hop

message: This new section looks like an advertisement for this group.  Can this be worked into one of the other sections?
:==Key artists and groups== 
:Hailing from the streets of Queens, New York it is lively storytelling, animated flows, true to life lyrics, clever punch lines, charasmatic delivery and supreme freestyle capabilities that make the recipe for Knowa Lazarus' success. More than just a rapper, Knowa is also an ambitious and established businessman, and is known for his ability to close big deals for his company Q-York Entertainment, Inc. By independently promoting manufacturing and distributing their music K.L. and the Q-York Senate are revolutionising the industry thru their ingenious and resourceful marketing methods they are the definition of "making something out of nothing". Through their unique sound and style, K.L. and the Q-York Senate are erasing the divisions between underground and mainstream Hip-Hop, answering the cries and begs of the masses for a collective that represents all under Hip-Hop's umbrella.  
Badagnani 10:10, 27 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New section 

message: "as early as 1982 local breakdancing crews like The Eclipse, Ground Control and Info-Clash Breakers became mainstays in local parks and malls in the Philippines such as Glorietta Mall, which was an early hotspot for breakers"''
1. just adding info: andrew e and j smooth mc (of bass rhyme posse) were members of ground control
2. you can also add that bass rhyme posse was the first rap group in the philippines. although their album was never really a hit, they are still the first group to release an album and is recognized as the first rap group. their website is http://bassrhymeposse.tk. you can also find some more info on pinoy hip-hop history there 
3. you can also add DJ KID. i forgot his name but he used to be andrew e's dj
4. you can also add rapasia as one of the pioneer rap groups in the philippines. one of the members is martin "bronx" magalona who is francis m's brother. also, rapi boys and jaimie baby.
thanks!
:Are you saying that you want someone else to add this into the article?  If you're sure of the information, why not add it to the article yourself?  Thanks for the additional info.  Badagnani 22:04, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins 

message: I see what you mean, but I just thought that because of the fact that alot of the rap artists (in the Philippines mainly) do not have myspace.com pages readily available (those are majority Filipino-American rap artists), whereas with the current format all the samples (both Filipino and Fil-Am) are available on one page rather than clicking to different sites all over the net. Most Philippine artists tracks are not as openly available as their Fil-Am counterparts as I had to extensively comb the net for those records. But point taken, should we open up a designated section for the myspace.com links? Perhaps re-listing all the myspace.com links under the link section of the page? thx for your input! Wikipedian13 23:38, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I like the "smorgasbord" aspect of having all the links (most of which have audio that starts right up when you go there).  How long those pages stay up, who knows, but, then, that's the way of the Internet.  Badagnani 23:56, 2 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Audio Format

message: I've just gone through the external links section with the guideline open in another tab.  There was, in the end, nothing that matched the inclusion requirements.  Links to individual artists are almost never appropiate in an article about a style unless they are iconic or define the genre.  Even in that instance, they should be incorported into the article as prose. - brenneman {L}  16:35, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: According to the verification policy, we need to be able from what's in the article to verify something.  A red link, that is to say just a name in a list, does not provide any citation on its own.  In most cases, sufficient references are expected to be found in an extant articles.  It's per this policy to remove red links from the quasi-see also section, as well as those external links that didn't meet the guideline linked above.brenneman {L}  16:58, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that redlink external links should definitely be removed but internal links should also be removed if they are most likely not to get an article.  The subgenres of Filipino hip hop will probably get their own articles eventually so they should stay but many of the rest should probably be removed. Pegasus1138Talk | Contribs | Email ---- 17:23, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Aye, and removing an in article red link isn't hard to reverse when the unlinked article is created so is usually no drama.brenneman {L}  17:26, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red links and verification 

message: Before we do anything, I think we should start on the least controversial part.  I think that is cleaning of the list of "notable" people.  I propose we delete all the links to Myspace bands first.  I also think we need someone who knows a lot about the subject to severely reduce the number of notable bands/mcs/people.  All the red links maybe? --mboverload@ 19:30, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be totally withing policy, and a sensible move. - brenneman {L}  22:55, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Myspace bands` 

message: *Ace Asero (Tomato Dream Entertainment / Royal Mafia)
*A.N.E. (5 Stars Productions)
*Aikee (Madd World/Circulo Pugantes)
*Al Beezy (Fully Blown Records)
*Anak Ni Bakuko (Dongalo Wreckords)
*Andrew E. (Dongalo Wreckords)
*Aukwin (Gameover Music)
*Baby Booda
*Bambu (Native Guns/Poorhouse Projekts)
*Infamous Chise
*Cookoo (South Psycho Cide)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.207.18.207 (talk) 07:27, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Lists - MCs

message: *BigDeal Productions
*5 Stars Productions
*7 Shots of Wisdom (Vibestation Entertainment)
*A.P.O.K.A.L.I.P.S.I.S (Real Deal Productions)
*Audible (Independent)
*BB Clan (Madd World/Circulo Pugantes)
*Brownian Method  - Cebu (Star Records)
*C4 (Apocalyse Records)
*Chise 
*Chinese Mafia (Madd World/Ciculo Pugantes)
*D.F.T
*E.H.P (Dongalo Wreckords)
*El Latino (Locotes Productions)
*Ghetto Doggs (Dongalo Wreckords)
*Gulpe de Gulat (Dongalo/Coastal Wreckords)
*I.P.K (IPK-OBLAXZ Music)
*Karayama (ArchAngel Productions)
*Kawago (ArchAngel Productions)
*Krazykyle & the Rapskallion Familia
*Kruzzada (Dongalo Wreckords)
*Likalento (Likas Ng Talento) - Hong Kong
*Madd Poets (Madd World/Circulo Pugantes)
*Nuestra Familia (Sandamukal Records) 
*Oblaxz (IPK-OBLAXZ Music)
*Pamilia Dimagiba (Third Eye Infantry)
*Pariente (Madd World/Circulo Pugantes)
*Phat Nasty Crew (Dongalo Wreckords)
*Razzamanazz (Dongalo Wreckords)
*Salbakuta (Dongalo Wreckords)
*Sakit Ng Sucat (Dongalo Wreckords)
*[Sumakumlaude] (Sandamukal Records)
*Sun Valley Crew (Tru Asiatik Tribe/Locked Down)
*Turbulence Productions
*Urban Flow (Third Eye Infantry)
*: Again, please make sure that each of these groups comply with WP:MUSIC before replacing them in the article.  Can't sleep, clown will eat me 05:32, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lists - MC groups

message: *DJ 8-Ball 
*DJ Apollo
*DJ Arbie Won
*DJ B.Bless (The Affiliates)
*DJ Boo (Kontrast)
*DJ Busy B
*DJ Coki (S.T.P./63 Squad)
*DJ E-Man Power 106 Los Angeles
*DJ FlipStyles (L22 Records)
*DJ Glaze (Foesum)
*DJ Icy Ice 93.5 KDAY Los Angeles
*DJ Illtraxx (Evolution DJs) 
*DJ IQ (Handroidz)
*DJ J-Storm 
*DJ Jena(63 Squad/the Basis Productions)
*DJ Kimosave (Spindicate Posse/63 Squad)
*DJ Kiwi HOT 89.9 FM Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
*DJ Konfusion (Handroidz)
*DJ Kuttin Kandi (5th Platoon) 
*Nasty Nes (Crazy Pinoy Productions)
*Norman Rockwell (The P.A.C.I.F.I.C.S.)
*DJ Phatal (The Affiliates)
*DJ Phatrick (Native Guns)
*Radikkal MK (Death Threat)
*DJ Ragu (The Affiliates)
*Roli Rho (5th Platoon)
*DJ Shortkut (Invisibl Scratch Piklz)
*DJ Shotgun (Crate Bullies, Goodie MOB)
*DJ Sonny (The Megateam)
*Son of Mantronix
*DJ SureShot (1200 Hobos)
*DJ Yogafrog
*DJ RED-I
*DJ Clueless
*: The same applies here as well.  Can't sleep, clown will eat me 05:36, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Lists - DJs

message: What really is going on here?  The initial two editors bent on blanking huge areas of content admitted within hours of their first massive edits that they had acted too soon, without first discussing here with the regular editors in this article.  Now this -- an editor repeatedly removes mention of a documentary film on this subject?  This has gone too far.  This sort of thing does not create a feeling of community here and definitely does not help users wishing to learn more about this subject and be steered in the right direction.  I've experienced the same antipathy toward this art form in the past and wish I could understand this mode of "editing."  Let's please respect others' contributions, would that be all right?  Badagnani 09:24, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We aren't here to respect other users edits, I'm afraid that's the nicest way I can put it.  We are here to build an encyclopedia.  I'm not sure what you are referring to, though. --mboverload@ 08:41, 6 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Badagnani, can we discuss this? Please explain why you find the documentary to be notable and relevant to the article. AmiDaniel (talk) 09:04, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Well then, would you care to expand upon that in the article? Simply sticking the name of a little-known film isn't doing anyone much good. Detail what the film is about and why it's relevant, and then it can be of some help to the readers. Otherwise, I don't see having this random reference particularly beneficial. AmiDaniel (talk) 09:16, 8 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh, for Christ's sake, don't revert war over this. I think there may well be a place for the film in the article; however, someone with knowledge of the film (i.e., Badagnani) needs to turn it into prose rather than list. If it remains just an obscure and unrelated reference after a couple of days, then I think it should be removed. If the point can be elaborated upon in the article, then it may well merit inclusion. Awaiting response from Badagnani, AmiDaniel (talk) 09:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ? I said soon, not now, to allow for more discussion.  I have given up/been convinced that we might as well leave it there so I won't be reverting. --mboverload@ 18:56, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a compelling argument.  I came a little bit late and am looking through diffs now, but the chain of "cite saying foo is prominant" to "documentary about foo linked."  I'd normally say "put that link in a parent article" but since we already know that third party sources are going to be hard, it can live here.  That first citation about being "most prominent exponent" is the vital one. - brenneman {L}  05:38, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't find it compelling at all.  What, are we going to add the next student film about YTMND into the article? --mboverload@ 03:13, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Meow!  No, think about it like this:  If the Sydney Morning Herald did an article on stencil graff and named ZeBom3000 as an originator in the field, and if there was a section about ZeBom in the Stencil graffiti article, and there was a very minor documentary that was the best source of information about ZeBom, we might put that link in the article.  Even if the documentary was a bit wobbly on it's own. - brenneman {L}  02:26, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of mention of film 

message: This is Jayo Santiago, webmasta and creator of Pinoy Hip-Hop. I also write Flip-Hop online back in 1997 and PINOYRAP.COM in 2004 where some of the sources here came from.
Anyway, I have decided to rewrite the Philippine section of Pinoy Hip-Hop and make it more accurate. I also decided to leave the FIlipino-American section.
Pinoyhiphopph (talk) 13:03, 24 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pinoy Hip-Hop article, rewritten! 

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message: In an earlier version of the article it is written that they started their rap group in 1972. Which is impossible as hip hop started in the USA around that time and didn't release anything until the late 1970s were it was imported in the Philippines, they may have had other musical endeavors but not Hip Hop. A website that copies and paste everything from Wikipedia says they started in in 1989 "http://enacademic.com/dic.nsf/enwiki/304726". So I choose to write in the 1980s. Any publications outside of blogspot covers this?Filmman3000 (talk) 17:46, 21 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Dates regarding Bass Rhyme Posse

message: This is Jayo Santiago also known by my graffiti name, Flip-1. I also created pinoyrap.com back in the early 2000 and is predecessor, Flip-Hop Online back in 1997. This article has been experiencing alot of issues and I decided to fix some of it.
In addition of redoing the paragraphs.
As of now, some of those I've fixed are,
- replacing "barrio" with "barangay". While barrio is also a term used to describe a neighborhood, more Filipinos use the word barangay.
- omitted the sentence, "Hip hop music found its way to the Philippines back when the country was under American rule." The Philippines gain independence back in 1946 and hip-hop developed back in the 1970s.
- omitted Vincent Dafallong's Okay Sa-Rap album in the Birth of a Movement section as that album was released in 1991.
- respelled to George Javier instead of Dyords Javier as this was the title printed in the album.
Themanilaxperience (talk) 12:31, 8 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: The article has too many self-published references such as pinoyrap.com and Facebook. You have been capitalizing far too much in your additions. A lot of what you added has no reference at all. For all of these reasons, your recent work has been removed twice. Also, Discogs and whosampledwho.com are not acceptable references per WP:ALBUMAVOID, so I removed those, too. Binksternet (talk) 16:37, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article revision necessary 

message: Francis Magalona is not Married with Pia here in the Philippines because Pia Arroy is still married with her husband. 136.158.16.8 (talk) 06:23, 22 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  HE IS NOT MARRIED