Talk:Something Awful/Archive 2

message: Someone sould document this explosion of fun that is the Goon party line, im a horrid typer and cant write it up, but someone needs to.—Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.203.44.83 (talk • contribs) 
:Utterly unencyclopedic.--Drat (Talk) 16:13, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Goon Partyline

message: :) Will (message me!) 16:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Although it didn't happen to me - the image loaded fine - SA uses (or has used) offsite linking images that are... unpleasant. At least there was the last time it happened to me, but that was two or three years ago. It's usually best to link to the page that shows the image. Wikipedia is also parodied in Tub Bites! 1, first a few scenes in, and then in the last scene.--Drat (Talk) 19:00, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The nastiness occurs when you "leech" an image on another site by displaying the image inline. Twinxor t 08:04, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SA and Wikipedia 

message: Followed a redirect here (Terrible Secret of Space) and expected to get to the song by Laziest Men on Mars. BigNate37T·C 04:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hardly surprising. TSOS was inspired by SA, and the song alone doesn't really warrant an article.--Drat (Talk) 05:31, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Funny, was looking for LMoM 

message: I came to this article today looking for some kind of master reference to other media, particularly games, that have referenced Something Awful, but there is no such information. I don't know if this kind of thing is worthy of the article, but here's what I recall so far:
*In The Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind, there's a powerful weapon called the Banhammer, which is a reference to Lowtax's mythical weapon of forum discipline. The character that had the banhammer was had a name derived from Lowtax as well.
*Lowtax's face was featured in a flight-sim game. I think it was in the IL-2 series.
*There are a few references in the Grand Theft Auto games. I recall a billboard and there's a criminal ranking just after "goon" called "SA Goon" in GTA: Vice City.
*Ropekid, in particular, included some SA references in the games he worked on, like Icewind Dale II. This is mentioned in the Lowtax article.
There's also some more SA game references mentioned here  that I don't specifically recall.
So, would such a list be worthy of inclusion? Can someone tell me which flight sim it is that features Lowtax as a pilot?
:You need reliable sources.--Drat (Talk) 06:10, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SA references in other media 

message: Checking SA on alexa (after noting 4chan's high rank, it occured to me that mention of the rank of 1317 might be an idea . What do others think, and where should the rank be inserted? LinaMishima 10:44, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Intro paragraph or something. --Liface 23:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Nobody cares about Alexa. GeeCee 00:22, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would generally agree there, Alexa ranks are notoriously wrong. However given that it has a large enough userbase so as to say that ranks above 100,000 are significant, I would say that a rank above 3000 is clearly a very major achievement! Something awful deserves to have this acknowledged, in my opinion. LinaMishima 00:34, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  High Alexa rank? 

message: The September 3, 2006 article by "Maxnmona" contains on obviously plagarised synopsis of "Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson. The nature of the article contains no room for it, as the whole point of it is for the author to criticise and "rewrite" parts of a certain book. I contacted "Maxnmona" about it and he replied "ur ultra-gay 2 the max" and then "ur supa-dupa gay reaching eye-poppin levels". Below is the portion I have discussed. How can they complain of plagarism when they commit the same?
#
Lord of the Rings
Old Plot: A group of heroes works seperately to unmake a ring of ultimate power and defeat its evil maker.
Better Plot: A samurai sword wielding pizza delivery man teams up with a young stakeboarding chick to stop a madman from using the internet to spread an ancient Babylonian spell that turns everyone into Pentecostals.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.51.89.132 (talk • contribs) .
:Um, it's a joke. An obscure joke, maybe, but certainly a joke. I mean last I heard SA is a humor site. --waffle iron talk 05:23, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The point of the article was that he wasn't making classic literature any better in his suggestions. To approach it as serious and make wild allegations makes you look silly. --waffle iron talk 05:33, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Uh yeah, it's parody. The readership would get the reference, laugh, and move on. Ebaum doesn't even bother with parody. He rebrands the images and then throws ads over them. They're not comparable.24.225.83.41 13:33, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Calling it plagiarism on the page is also original research. Besides, given that the kind of demographic that SA attracts, Maxnmona likely assumed they'd get the reference.--Drat (Talk) 08:12, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Plagarism of Neal Stephenson

message: The Wikipedia entry for "My Tank is Fight" redirects here, yet it is not mentioned anywhere in this article. Are we going to create a new section this article on it, or create a new article (like there is with Maddox's book)? W3bbo 23:44, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just created a stub article on My Tank is Fight, feel free to finish it off W3bbo 23:50, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The book has not been released yet, and there are no professional reviews. Wikipedia isn't an advertising service. There's usually precedent for creating articles on items to come out if there is independant verifiable and reliable sources regarding it. In the literary world Zack's not (yet) known.--Drat (Talk) 15:10, 17 September 2006 (UTC)

text: However, that's not a good reason for taking it out of the main SA article. Having a book published by a legitimate publishing house is certainly noteworthy within the context of the website, especially because this is a fairly unique case: it's a hard-to-categorize book that is being published solely because of the Something Awful reputation. It's comparable to The Alphabet of Manliness, Real Ultimate Power and I Hope they Serve Beer in Hell. the first has its own page; the second are prominently mentioned on their creator's pages. With that in mind, MTIF deserves at least a mention here. Stilgar135 22:55, 25 September 2006 (UTC)

text: There was an article, but it was deleted as there were no reliable, independent sources to show why it was notable.--Drat (Talk) 05:46, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  My Tank is Fight 

message: In 19th of September, there are six articles from Wikipedia that appeared in Awful link of the day. 
Those are Knuckles (from Sonic the Hedghog), Echidna, The internet, Internal Combustion Engine, William Shakespear (Whats wrong with William Shakespear? - Han) and Western Culture. 17:40, 19 September 2006, hanchi.
The joke was that the Knucles article is longer than any of those other, more noteworthy, subjects.  You should probably stick to Maddox if you need jokes like these explained to you.  Ghost of starman 21:26, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia appeared in Awful Link 

message: I put together some sources on the forums page before it was merged. Since I'm lazy, I'll just copy-paste my message here:
:All your Base:  
:Another photoshop fas 
:Lawsuit from Apple 
:General article about internet forums mentions it 
:Hurricane Katrina issue  
:On Attack of the Show (the video itself)
:SPEWS issue 
:EBaum's conflict  (I know, not the best source, but the best I could find)
:Uwe Boll 
:Sony's viral marketing scam 
:There's also some stuff about the guy who posted there and committed a murder-suicide that appeared in a national newspaper, but I can't find it. The main article definitely needs cleanup though. --Wafulz 01:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: "Something Awful is particularly well-known for its forums, which have the unique feature of requiring a one-time registration fee."
This feature is definitely not unique, for example, metafilter also requires a one time registration fee. Changing to "Something Awful is particularly well-known for its forums, which require a one-time registration fee."Kennedyyyyy 23:22, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good, though this could've been summed up in an edit summary. --Wafulz 23:59, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: One Time Registration

message: The reason I reverted the speedy tag was that the wording made it clear it was in bad faith. No proper criteria was specified.--Drat (Talk) 11:41, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, there's really no question that this article doesn't qualify for speedy deletion. Twinxor t 13:22, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reversion of Speedy tag 

message: This is *so* amazingly spot-on: http://www.somethingawful.com/index.php?a=4288
69.72.41.131 06:25, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  SA wikipedia parody 

message: The innacurate statement is about Second Life. SL is not technically a video game. It's more akin to 3d VRML chats such as "Blaxxun" or "Onlive! Traveler". It just has a slightly different business model and network topography but is realitively the same concept.
Second, NPOV issue regarding furries. The way it is written implies that furries automatically equate to the obscene. I have seen obscene stuff come from furries in SL. However, I have seen far more obscene stuff come from non-furries in SL. Infact, some of the more obscene stuff I've seen has come from what are known as "Goons" which are composed of certain members from the Something Awful forums. They have a habbit of being extremely obscene in newbie welcome areas. I am not pointing fingers at any individual members, nor at "goons" in general. Merely remarking that certain "goons" have been known to be far worse than the worst stuff I've ever seen come out of furries.
For reffernce, I am not a furry and have no interest in the furry fandom. I am however concerned about the lack of NPOV in this article regarding them. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.254.163.104 (talk) 05:52, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV and innaccurate statements 

message: A search for the Pusher Robot and another search for "Terrible Secret of Space" both redirect here, but all reference to this meme started by SA has been removed from this page.
Either the material should be restored or the redirection links related to this material should be removed.  65.5.3.112 17:52, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terrible Secret of Space redirects here with no info. 

message: I tagged the article with original research because there were plenty of lines making claims which were not sourced or backed up by a secondary source. If you can find good secondary sources which provide similar analysis then cite them. Otherwise the lines I tagged are indeed original research, they are provide analysis and original research about the topic. --Quirex 18:51, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Research 

message: I'm a SA forum lurker, and I've noticed the picture of the forums is a bit outdated, as there have been a few revisions. IIRC, the FYAD board has been deleted, and replaced with BYOB. it's just a minor thing, and since I barely know wikicode, I don't think I"d be able to do it myself. --199.126.227.65 02:31, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: With regards to forum names and order/presentation, the public view of the forums changes on a not-infrequent basis. The purpose behind the image is basically "this is a general idea of what the forums currently look like." Unless the forums page undergoes a full revamp (like the front page did), the current picture should be fine as is. --Wafulz 05:41, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  new forum picture? 

message: What was the result of the case? It says "Satisfaction" or "Warrant Vacated", but I don't speak legalese. --Wafulz 17:55, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's fallen off as vacated, then why is it still here? This doesn't sound like a worthwhile event at all. --Wafulz 14:55, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A criminal offense was committed by the company (and owner) that the article is based on, which would make it noteworthy enough to mention among the other past controversies surrounding SomethingAwful. 128.208.191.123 03:25, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

text: This 'controversy' is non-notable, and hardly a controversy. As such I have removed it. GeeCee 16:32, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A legal action against a corporate entity has qualified many times as "notable" in other cases and with other companies, the only exception here is that Lowtax has repeatedly insisted that his forum users "fix" his wikipedia article by removing any negative material. Anybody suspected of editing the article under this policy will find their edits quickly reverted. Cumulus Clouds 00:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't this "tax evasion" basically the coroporate equivalent of a parking ticket or a late fee? Also, where are you getting the idea that Kyanka is mandating these changes? --Wafulz 00:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, though I'm sure Kyanka certainly wants people to see it that way. He keeps saying it was an accountant's error, but he also says he doesn't retain anyone on his staff other than his coder. I also doubt that any accountant would be stupid enough to think you didn't have to pay taxes on a business' income for that fiscal year if they simply moved out of state. Since we don't have evidence to the contrary, there's no way to verify his story, though it is kept there to maintain NPOV until some other evidence surfaces. Kyanka has previously asked his users to edit his article because he felt Something Awful was being under represented (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2402054#post325135244), and he blames the article's content on its editors, who he feels are all permabanned users of his site (http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=2402054&perpage=40&pagenumber=2#post325135807). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Cumulus Clouds (talk • contribs) 04:24, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah but it's a bit of a stretch to suggest he wants people to remove any and all negative content. Anyway, I guess I'll leave the tax bit alone. --Wafulz 04:32, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tax evasion

message: The 'Spector' behind those randomly generated facts
College Student’s Humor Website Reaches 50 Millionth Visit
Both mention something awful but don't mention chuck norris facts (just vin deisel). --Quirex 17:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actor ''Facts''