Talk:Solaris (novel)

message: What language was it written in?  Polish or russian?  -66.108.148.222 04:51, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Polish. Staecker 12:13, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Language?

message: How is "remote space exploration" a "metaphor" for whether or not the human mind will ever "understand a truly alien life form"? It seems like that is rather analogous to me saying that "making a ham salad sandwich" is a "metaphor" for whether or not I am going to "eat ham salad". lastcrab 10:21, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Metaphor?

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Solaris Chichoni.jpg

message: There are in fact three film adaptations of Solaris - the third, or, actually, the first, being a close to the book made-for-TV movie. [Yes, I've seen it]. It's not widely known, but deserves a mention. I just didn't find a good source, but to keep in mind if you can. CP/M comm |Wikipedia Neutrality Project| 20:27, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct. A guy from Poland pointed out the following links - http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=_xZ0IG7K4t4, http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3vWid1xAYw and finally there happens to be a rapidshare link of this movie around... I'm not linking this final URL as the copyright status is uncertain.--Mrdini (talk) 20:44, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Third film adaptation 

message: Does it really make sense to use the original names in the English wiki article? I would love to have their pre-translation names mentioned, but to use the name Snaut for a character that is known to the English readers solely as Snow is a bit over the top... This is English wiki, afterall. I'm changing the names and putting the original names in parenthesis. TomorrowTime (talk) 07:04, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names of characters 

message: I've removed the two user-contributed images. I don't feel that images interpreted from the text belong in an article about a novel. If the images had been published in the novel, or perhaps created by the author, that would be another matter.
Don't get me wrong; they're nice images, particularly the symettriad, but they are fan art and don't belong here.
David (talk) 18:55, 24 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: The novel (English version) is not real clear, but Kelvin appears to be a physician, not a psychologist.... 74.99.21.154 (talk) 19:16, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The English-language version of the novel I read specifically states him as being a psychologist. Kuralyov (talk) 21:50, 24 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Psychologist vs Physician?

message: The novel (again, English version) gives no real clue what the politics on Earth (centuries hence) will be like, or who (US vs USSR) prevailed in the Cold War. The nationalities of the characters are also not clear... but Kelvin is certainly a famous English name. ('Norway' and 'Europe' are mentioned, and so apparently they still exist... ) Thus, I question the use of the word "Cosmonaut" which does not appear in the book... 74.99.21.154 (talk) 19:16, 5 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree- regardless of who won the cold war in Lem's future there's no point in referring to them as cosmonauts. These aren't guys who put on suits and blast off in little capsules, they live and work on a space station. Nobody would call captain Kirk an astronaut. Staecker (talk) 13:32, 6 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Cosmonauts?

message: Would not the Solaris operating system from Sun Microsystems (originally) have its name inspired from the novel? GermanicusCaesar (talk) 02:13, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt it.  The word predates both. - Richfife (talk) 21:09, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cultural allusions   

message: A summary with an example or two of the critical reception and lasting literary regard of this work is needed. – Mark K Adams (talk) 20:31, 12 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Critical Reception

message: It's been a while since I read (a german translation of) the book, but I can't remember it saying anywhere that the planet is sentient. Maybe I misremember, but I don't think it even acknowledged that the planet was alive at all.--Cyberman TM (talk) 08:30, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: FWIW - Seems at least one critic of the novel Solaris by Stanislaw Lem refers to the planet Solaris as "sentient" on the official Stanislaw Lem WebSite - less direct wording/phrasing (or possibly, inferences?) of the "aliveness" of planet Solaris may appear in the novel I would think - in any case - Enjoy! :) Drbogdan (talk) 16:53, 30 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: In the novel there is only speculation about the nature of the planet. Actually the planet seems to be an ordinary rocky planet with a thick coating of a substance that might be alive. This article is about the novel, secondary sources should be included with proper sourcing. This article is extremely badly written: There is unsourced interpretation all over the place, especially in the first sentence of the introduction and in the plot summary. In my opinion interpretation does not belong in these two areas of the article, especially unsourced and possibly disputed interpretation. The important literary aspect that the entire book is written from the viewpoint of Kelvin is omitted. The article should mention that this is probably the most famous book by Stanislav Lem and that it was voted one of the most important science-fiction novels ever (in some survey, I do not remember the source, but Solaris was in the Top 10). A different interpretation could focus on the psychological aspect that when you travel, you always take yourself with you and that you have to face your demons. Or the relationship between Kelvin and his mentor and that Kelvin recognizes everybody's fallibility (Re. Jesus and the Adulteress). The planet is only the background and shows the limits and the great achievements and possibilities of science. The biggest problem for Kelvin sometimes seems to be the senior scientists and the suppression of data or rather lines of research. The fact that there is no mutually understandable two-way communication yet does not mean that it will never be established. There is a lot of room to improve this article, unfortunately I am not sure how to do that. (93.196.245.3 (talk) 21:48, 31 December 2013 (UTC)

text: One of the major points of the novel is that human concepts like, but not limited to, sentience and life don't work in relation to the planet either way.  I'd definitely steer clear of anything about the planet and its covering beyond its physical properties.  For all we know, everything observed is actually caused by an invisible teapot orbiting on the opposite side of the star.  - Richfife (talk) 21:13, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sentient Planet? 

message: The article uses the word visitor, apparently based on its meaning within the Solaris story, but fails to explain what visitors are, resulting in an incomprehensible plot description unless one reads the book :( I'd love to have a better description of the plot and an explanation of what a visitor is, so sources describing the Solaris visitors would be useful. Does anyone know of any such source? Sofia Koutsouveli (talk) 13:19, 9 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visitors? 

message: In the novel the characters do NOT try to understand Solaris. And for this paragraph: "The ocean's response to this intrusion exposes the deeper, hidden aspects of the personalities of the human scientists, while revealing nothing of the ocean’s nature itself. To the extent that the ocean's actions can be understood, the ocean then seems to test the minds of the scientists by confronting them with their most painful and repressed thoughts and memories." the first sentence is correct, the second is NOT.
I'm yet to read the last third of the book, but clearly the article here never reached to that section.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2A02:AB88:373C:3080:9423:ADB1:5EF8:C752 (talk) 15:24, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Whether the second sentence correct or not, I agree that this is a judgement of the reader, rather than part of the plot, therefore I am removing it. Staszek Lem (talk) 16:18, 19 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whoever wrote this article didn't read the book. 

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