Talk:Stand Alone Complex

message: I redirected this to Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex.  I'm not sure why it was changed to the philosophy in the first place...If there's a good reason, then change it back I suppose.--Pyg 01:08, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Stand Alone Complex is the complex introduced in the series. It is described in the GitS:Philosophy article. There is a For the series, see Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex in case some articles don't link to the right place (they should be corrected, though). Reverting. -- Rcog 17:20, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirect

message: I did a little clean up and fixed the introduction. The introduction seemd to be an intro to the series, not the stand alone complex itself. Also, because its the complex that is being described, I felt there was no need for and extraneous information about the series such as its Japanese title.--YGagarin 22:38, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that at least a little should be included as to give the user a introduction to what this article is about.--YGagarin 04:39, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's handled quite nicely with the line "The phrase is coined from the Japanese anime series Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex."  We could add a line stating that a Stand Alone Complex has never been seen outside of the anime, though I couldn't tell you how true such a statement is.  Other than that, I don't think the article needs to be further clarified with examples from the series's plot.  We don't want to go around restating the plot of a series on every subpage of that series; I, at least, assume that anyone who wants information on the plot will simply read the main article.  However, if you think that brief synopses of the two Complexes will really help the article, I'm willing to put them in. - Kalarchis 21:45, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just one would be fine for the purpose of an example.--YGagarin 02:18, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: clean up

message: Moved to discussion from article:
:The Wiki incorrectly refrences the time when the term Stand Alone Complex is first referenced (being Episode 26).  This is wrong, it is actually referenced in one of the earlyer episodes by Cheif Aramaki after vising the Superintendant General in the Hospital.  He names the phenomenon that happens when the Superintendant General has an attempted assanation by multiple simulatanious attackers when Kusanagi asks the Cheif's opinion on what happened.  This happens in Episode 6:  MEME
:Someone had written this in the article itself, so I moved it here.--YGagarin 11:57, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: excised

message: I edited to fix some of the vocabulary.  It's important to note that "stand alone complex" is a neologism, link it to the idea of a "borganism", and clarify the difference between cybernetics and cyberware, etc.--TankRamp 19:52, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: neologism

message: Wikipedia does have moderators, so I changed :
It might be viewed that all society is but a single stand alone complex. Wikipedia could also be viewed as one, as there is no moderation by administrators; it is trust in (the contributions of) others that keeps this site succesful.
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It might be viewed that all society is but a single stand alone complex. Wikipedia could also be viewed as one, it is trust in (the contributions of) others that keeps this site succesful. We do have mods, otherwise we would not be able to ban people who edit the wiki with garbage. 
--WngLdr34 17:52 10 November 2006 (EST)WngLdr34 22:53, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Simple Edit because of a lie

message: I agree that Stand Alone Complex is the title of the series but it is also a philosophy (or a re-named philosophy) that is put forward.  As I still haven't got my head around the philosophy, I came to this article to try and help my sort it out.  I would rather have input from others rather than outright deletion.  At the very least, good cross-refencing and placement elsewhere.  There's my two cents. 70.49.15.68 21:57, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You may wish to read WP:NOR. -- Ned Scott 05:49, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Original research is a term used in Wikipedia to refer to material that has not been published by a reliable source.Some references were added recently before you ask for deletetion.So please explain your OR position.Don't simply redirect without discussion or improvement.--82.126.131.25 05:59, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Don't Delete this please!   

message: It occurs to me that Stand Alone Complex could be considered a precondition, a category including, or even synonymous with mass hysteria.  Thinking on that it occurs to me that S.A.C. may perhaps even long before the series (although it has been stated here it originated with the director Kamiyama) either have been euphemism for mass hysteria, a rhetorical rationalization for the belief in mass hystia, or something else along those lines.  As such there may be previous references to S.A.C. in japanese circles of crypto-psychology.
On the other hand this may be an entirely accidental coincidence.  Although I think an exploration of the parallels between the two may still be in order either way. 68.48.160.243 00:27, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  S.A.C. and mass hysteria 

message: Whatever some of you think, this page is for those who want to know whats beyond the anime. To see more depper it. I could compare it to Evangelion. Someone did wrote an entire website about the fact that Evangelion is joining the religion, what the ending means, what the moon means in somes episodes. Same thing here, execpt, its going on the philosophical and theriocal part. The guy is helping us to feed our mind, the creativity of it. Its not only  the same thing than this page : [], its going depper and further to explain, in some maners, what it can be related to and the significance of it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 65.93.157.14 (talk • contribs) .
:I'm not saying it's not interesting, or that no one will want to read about it, but things that are "beyond the anime" are mostly original research, which isn't allowed on Wikipedia. This is also covered by a second policy, WP:NOT#Wikipedia is not a publisher of original thought. Wikipedia isn't always the best place for those kinds of things. -- Ned Scott 17:39, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia's founder, Jimbo Wales, has described the origin of the original research policy as follows: "The phrase 'original research' originated primarily as a practical means to deal with physics cranks, of which of course there are a number on the Web. The basic concept is as follows: It can be quite difficult for us to make any valid judgment as to whether a particular thing is true or not. It isn't appropriate for us to try to determine whether someone's novel theory of physics is valid; we aren't really equipped to do that..."--82.126.131.25 06:07, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not limited to just that. -- Ned Scott 07:08, 2 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philosophy 

message: This article has no sources listed and for all any reader could guess it's all original work.  It's also listed as a disambig page which is supposed to just list a few sentences pointing readers to another article... not contain any large amount of information.  This isn't really a disambig page.  It needs to seriously be reworked or deleted. Alatari (talk) 09:55, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I made it into a true disambig page and put the text into the Ghost in the Shell philosophy section where it flowed into it nicely and is easily accessed thru the disambig link.  Hopefully the phrase Stand Alone Complex will get further usage in scholarly circles to attain a full article on it.  As for now it doesn't have that kind of support.  Alatari (talk) 10:14, 10 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unreferenced tag added