Talk:Naturism

message: I think the editor involved was simply confused, and accidentally edited an old version of the page instead of the current one. I did that a few times when I was newer to Wikipedia than I am now. I don't think I removed quite this much material, though – really, the entire Naturism in New Zealand section? Most tellingly, , you may not have noticed, but they actually put back quite a lot of the stuff you had removed, which I think you may have thought was what I was doing when I reverted the change. —VeryRarelyStable (talk) 10:47, 21 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletions, 21 January 

message: The article, at 113,161 bytes, is too long (see WP:TOOBIG). I propose the following:
* Remove the "Demographics" section;
* Remove the "Issues in social nudity" section;
* Condense the "Philosophy" section; and
* Condense the footnotes.
Thoughts? SunCrow (talk) 04:37, 23 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Seeing no objection, I have made the changes I suggested above. I have also removed some unsourced and unreliably sourced material. The article is now under 100,000 bytes. SunCrow (talk) 06:28, 4 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Article size

message: Clothing optional (a redirect to Nude beach) and Clothes free (a redirect to Nudity) have been nominated for discussion at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 2#Clothing optional and Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2020 October 2#Clothes free respectively. Editors interested in this article are invited to comment in the linked discussions. Thryduulf (talk) 09:32, 2 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Related redirects nominated for discussion 

message: The current version of the article  has the following paragraph:
Now, the link  to :fr:Naturisme (mouvement littéraire) was recently introduced. It may or may not be accurate here, but the whole passage leaves me with the uneasy feeling that there may – possibly! – be a mixing up of two meanings of the word naturism – the current one ('lifestyle that involves nudity') an another, older, meaning ('a certain attitude to life and nature'), which presumably was  at the base of the literary movement with the name. Does the source explicitly make the connection between the two, that is, did Saint-Georges de Bouhélier, André Gide et al. really advocate for social nudity? – Uanfala (talk) 00:32, 10 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The literary movement 

message: I've gone through the list of monograph, and partly through the journal, references and hidden to ones that are no longer tied to anything in the article text. Since none of these supported anything in the article, it seemed superfluous to have them listed in the References section. Perhaps some of the book citations could be moved to the bibliography section (in fact, a couple already were included there). PLEASE NOTE: I have not deleted or removed the references, merely hidden them by commenting them out. I'm sure they will be useful once it can be determined what previous statements they supported. They can be added again by just copying and pasting outside the commented sections. Texttramp (talk) 01:22, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hiding unused monograph and journal references 

message: I had never paid much attention to this article, but decided to do a little cleanup. I immediately found content that was unsupported, or contradictory to the sources cited. 
I edited the opening section to reflect that naturism is defined as social, not individual nudity, else everyone would be a nudist/naturist.
--WriterArtistDC (talk) 21:15, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I know it's surprising, but that is not the case. Far more people than you would think keep their clothes on even when they're alone at home, and wear pyjamas to bed. "At-home naturism" is a real thing; often a precursor to social naturism. With respect, I think those particular edits should be reversed. —VeryRarelyStable 23:00, 8 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. There are many naturists who prefer nudity whenever it's convenient, not just at the beach or club. There are many naturists who have little or no opportunity for social naturism. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that being naked only with others borders on exhibition. --Roly (talk) 08:19, 9 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I was attempting to define the topic based upon the only cited source. All the organizations and all the literature talk about naturism and nudism as a social practice, and none of the current content refers to anything else.  It goes without saying that a social nudist is also naked at home, and perhaps there is a place for content about those who are unconcerned with nudity among family and friends; but totally private nudity is what everyone does, unless they are Gymnophobic.--WriterArtistDC (talk) 01:05, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: "but totally private nudity is what everyone does" – no, it isn't.  Totally private nudity is what many people do, possibly even most people, but not everyone. I don't have reputable sources, I'm afraid, or I'd cite them. What I have is memories of comments on naturist message boards, years ago, many many comments, where people talked about taking their first steps in naturism by starting to go nude alone at home. My family home was one where, although you would not be welcome to barge into someone else's room when they were in there alone, you could confidently expect them to be clothed if you did. Nudity was solely for when you were actually in the bath. As I say, I don't have sources to show which of these lifestyles is the more common. But there are enough people who don't go nude in private alone that it can't be settled without sources. —VeryRarelyStable 10:07, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: So much this. -Roxy the grumpy dog. wooF 19:02, 14 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs cleanup 

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thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion 

message: Re the reversion of a previous reversion done in my name. I'm more than a little confused. I don't remember making that edit! I can only think that I inadvertently undid the wrong edit and I hope my account has not been hacked. --Roly (talk) 13:11, 18 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent reversion 

message: The tag which proposed merging the article Issues in social nudity was placed without consideration that the article was created to reduce the size of this article. However, the article has continued to grow, and I see no obvious remedy. Perhaps there is too much said about each country, only a few having their own articles. WriterArtistDC (talk) 15:39, 30 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page size again 

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