Talk:Adolf Lindenbaum

message: The recent edits of Molobo could be perceived nationalistic, because they carry an implicit claim by one country to another's territory; I may be wrong. However, there is no reason to Polonize these names. If the massacre is known in English by its Polish name, link the massacre (i.e. Massacre of Ponary), not the modern Lithuanian town of Paneriai. Ponary is in any case a redirect to Paneriai, so the reason Molobo is giving for Polonizing the name of the town doesn't make any kind of sense. - Calgacus 23:45, 29 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see you're a friendly chap. Please be courteous, because otherwise, I won't bother interacting with you. His name, forename and surname, are German (not just German sounding); and I would suggest the onus (i.e. burden of proof) is on you Molobo to prove that he isn't of German descent. The alternative is that his family at some point abandoned their Polish name, and moreover, that his parents were sufficiently Germanophile that, without even having German descent, they gave their son a German name in addition, and that Adolf, moreover, was never inclined to have it Polonized. Maybe someone can give me a reason why I'm wrong? - Calgacus 23:45, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

text: It's hardly just personal opinion. But the fact you're taking it so seriously (combined with your desire to Polonize the name of a Lithuanian town) makes me think it likely you'd be upset by the discovery. Maybe I'm wrong. But I won't restore German descent (which he obviously had), until I get a source. Happy? - Calgacus 00:18, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

text: German forename, German surname, knowledge of the ethnographic situation in modern Polish history, etc. As to the census: Probably both. It doesn't matter though, we don't go trolling through censi in order to find out what to call one town when. That is the name of the town, both in Lithuanian and English. It doesn't matter that it was once partly inhabited by Germans or Poles or whoever. - Calgacus 00:24, 30 January 2006 (UTC
knowledge of the ethnographic situation in modern Polish history
Hmm you found the information that German words were borrowed fascinating-and this is rather basic knowledge.Excuse me If I am doubtfull.
I don't think descent is that important. He might be German, or Jewish (I saw one page listing him as a Jewish mathematcian). Anyway, this page lists him as a member of a Lw%C3%B3w-Warsaw_School_of_logic. This is confimed by PWN Encyclopedia (here, if you can read Polish). And here is he is listed among  'Polish Great Mathematicians'. Is this enough?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 01:16, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

text: This is getting tedious. Stop trying to find ways to Polonize the name. The wiki article title is Paneriai. If you have a problem with that, go there and suggest a move. For what it's worth, Paneriai has on google 14,500 English pages, Ponary only 10,500. Compare that with Paneriai's general 60,300 and Ponary's measily 25,600. - Calgacus 00:52, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

text: It usually is. You can only use the historical name when there is an absence of a common English name, in which case you put the current local name in brackets upon first mention. If you think that the modern English name Paneriai (you have no case for Vilnius) isn't common enough, you have to give good reasoning as to why Ponary, rather than Paneriai or Ponaren, is a good historical name for the period in question. - Calgacus 01:04, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

text: BE NICE! - Calgacus 01:56, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

text: That's for the massacre, not the town, as I already showed. - Calgacus 01:56, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
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