Wikipedia talk:Meetup/Auckland 3

message: 11th August (Saturday)
*Can do. Ingolfson 11:01, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Proposed time: 1 PM to ~ 3-4 PM
Seeing that the primary date is only three weeks away, and people would probably like to make plans, I will now  the secondary alternative and the date discussion so far, and go for the first. Everybody who gave his name was happy with it anyway. Ingolfson 06:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I will also propose 1:00 pm. That suit all? Ingolfson 06:39, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good for me. I can make almost any time on that day.-gadfium 08:51, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If possible could we go for 12? I'm likely arriving earlier that day, so 12 seems like a better time. I guess it depends on everyone else, i'm flexible either way. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 11:28, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I went ahead and left notices for a few people who attended/planned to attend either the first meetup or the second meetup. There'll probably be a few more signups in the next few days. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 02:05, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What date? 

message: This time, someone needs a camera, so we can post some pictures of the meetup on the page. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 04:17, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't we have one last time? Actually, I have in the meantime come to the conclusion that I would not like to be photographed. If anyone cares to know why, I'll happily explain in person during the meeting. Ingolfson 11:07, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Neither would I, that's why I take photos, not be in them Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 11:39, 14 July 2007 (UTC)

text:  There was at least one camera at both the first and second Auckland Meet. SimonLyall or I will be bringing one. Linnah 11:29, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, that should be good then. That's covered :) Now onto thinking about what to actually do at the meetup. (so far we have 3 hours of talking about two minor topics. I'm sure ill think of something.) Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 12:08, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No Foo Camps, please ;-) That aside, we certainly will find enough stuff to talk about. Even if we don't have a big agenda to cover, chatting and meeting up in real life is nice enough on its own, I feel. Ingolfson 08:38, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other issues 

message: Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 21:11, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geonotice 

message: how often is this meet up? 6 months? Blacksmith2 talkEditor Review 08:21, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Its a bit irregular, 6 months is a good guess. Watchlist Wikipedia:New Zealand Wikipedians' notice board for anouncements. Ingolfson 08:27, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Or watchlist Wikipedia:Meetup/Auckland if you just want to know about Auckland meetups.-gadfium 09:26, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Other NZ meetups will be notified there too. - SimonLyall 09:41, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  how often 

message: Please put your username next to the item if you are bringing it
* Camera: SimonLyall
*: I’ll bring one, too. Photographic, not video. Ramir 04:50, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  hmm maybe next time we should pick a venue with free wireless (eg parnell, or cafes with a telecom wireless hotspot).Linnah 12:38, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What's the point of going to a meetup and NOT using wikipedia? It should be good for looking things up anyway. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 23:43, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have a laptop (as many do...), but currently no mobile broadband. But given an access point... or if people ask me to download a few pages to make it viewable offline? Mathmo Talk 06:31, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Would anyone object to me filming the meetup? A lot better than individual shots, and it means we can check what we discussed etc. I have access as part of my studies to some good quality film equipment, so if you guys are keen, i'll bring it, and distribute the video to anyone who wants it. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 10:27, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: People are not acting 'normal' when they are being filmed. And I would feel a little bit like in a Big Brother (TV series) setting. So no, I wouldn't be happy with that. I also don't think we need any perfect record of what we discussed. Its just a cooperative meetup, and nothing we decide there is above other consensus decisions made on Wikipedia itself. In fact, you might argue that decisions made during such a meetup are worth less, as they exclude people from the consensus-forming who couldn't attend. I'm probably exaggerating the effects and relevance of your good-faith proposal a little bit here, but I simply don't think it is a good idea. Cheers. Ingolfson 11:13, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd also prefer for the meeting not to be filmed. For the previous meetup, there was a documentary maker who was interested in filming the meetup and interviewing the participants, but the understanding was that a few minutes of the meeting only would be filmed. The documentary maker decided against coming in the end.-gadfium 20:12, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Just a suggestion, instead of filming, just record with a dictaphone or similar, that way we know whats been said with out the direct precense of a cameraBlacksmith2 talkEditor Review 22:01, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably a bad idea then. Also, I was meaning it would also be great for those that couldn't attend but want to - I had another good idea possible for future meetups, but that can wait. I won't bring it. I see what you mean by people not acting normally surrounded with film equipment (the camears quite big, plus leads, mics, etc). Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 00:33, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Items to be brought 

message: Do we want to use the new Geonotice feature to advertise the meetup? I have no idea how many extra people might come to it as a result of such advertising. If we have sufficiently fine control, I'd favour advertising to people between Hamilton and Whangarei.-gadfium 04:41, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Geonotice is a good idea. Also, I left the notices, but forgot about that. If I do any more, i'll make sure to point them to that. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 00:57, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've placed a request (I think) on the Geonotice page. The procedure for making a request isn't established yet.-gadfium 04:41, 27 July 2007 (UTC)

text: The geonotice is now live. I can't see it; perhaps my ISP (Ihug) uses a nationwide pool of IP addresses so my current IP isn't identified as being in Auckland. Can anyone else see it on their watchlist page?-gadfium 20:12, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, i've confirmed it, but it didn't appear for me until I hard reloaded - hit Ctrl+F5 (or hold down ctrl/command and press the reload button). That worked for me. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 21:23, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, we appear to be getting lots of attention, so it seems to be working :) Linnah might have to update the reservations. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 01:04, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no need to update the reservations till closer to the day. There will be some movement in the numbers between now and then.Linnah 07:44, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't think there's a list of IPs that are Auckland only (or that define users as auckland only). While there's various ways of defining what is a NZ IP, there's no definitive way. There are several lists of NZ IPs, not all of them are identical. Geonotice uses a freely distributable database that maps IP address to location. So I suspect the geonotice is going to users connected from what it thinks is a NZ IP. Linnah 08:28, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I know that especially in small countries like here (not saying we are small, but compared to a lot of others) that geotargeting can be really off. Auckland is usually pretty accurate, but due to the way that some ISPs handle routing, all users from some ISPs appear to be auckland users. It's some weird way, but at least it should appear to most people in the wanted areas. Also, I meant change closer to the date, as it can take up to 3-5 days for all watchlists to purge the javascript caches, and to get the new messages. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 09:20, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Great! At least we know there's a lot of interest. Future meetups should be much better. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 21:22, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't worry, Matt, once we have this third one under our belt, Auckland had more meetups than most places worldwide ;-) Ingolfson 06:55, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Also if more people were to add their names to it you could, use 
the categorey for wikipedians in Auckland, currently on 3, if there were more subcategories also in the right area you could use those.Blacksmith2 talkEditor Review 07:36, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Except for those places with monthly meetups. Also, the category is partially unnecessary, as we have the geonotice, which provides more publicity than anything. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 08:01, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Publicising Auckland 3 Meetup

message: If you have come here because of a notice on your watchlist, please say. I am trying to see how effective it is.
=== Coming ===
Please add your name to the list below if you are planning to attend 
# Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot)
# Almost certain.-gadfium 04:36, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  People 

message: Please add your name to the list below if you are planning to attend 
# Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot)
# Almost certain.-gadfium 04:36, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coming 

message: If you have come here because of a notice on your watchlist, please say. I am trying to see how effective it is.
# This time I have no problems :-) --Konstable
#:Blast, sorry, seems this month is way too busy for me. Perhaps next half-year.--Konstable 06:06, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unable to come 

message: === Agenda ===
*Discuss the naming convention we have arrived at for Maori names (not wanting to reopen the discussion as such, just thinking that might make sense to recap it?) Ingolfson 09:20, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plans 

message: *Discuss the naming convention we have arrived at for Maori names (not wanting to reopen the discussion as such, just thinking that might make sense to recap it?) Ingolfson 09:20, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Agenda 

message: Hey everyone,
I'm flying in 9AM, and i've only got about 30mins of stuff to do in the 4 hours before the meetup. Can anyone recommend any good things to do? I have a couple ideas, but nothing that will last me that long. Thanks! Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 01:32, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was considering the sky tower, as I am actually going to visit SkyCity, to ask some questions regarding their convention center (see my wikimania bid thread on the new zealanders noticeboard). So i'll try to do that. Kelly Tarltons seems great - I haven't been there in many years, and I remember it being great. I didn't even think of it. The museum is a definate possibility - i'll check that out. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 02:04, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I went their a year ago as part of a trip, so i'm probably not going to go there, the most convenient place has to be the one I went to recently! Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 21:48, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sadly, the plane tickets tripled in price the day before I bought them, so I am no longer flying down early, but driving later. That means I wont be able to do much before the meetup. Oh well! Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 06:38, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Where are you driving from? I know you said you live in Northland. If you arrive early, TimeOut is a good bookshop and happens to be in Mt Eden shops, not far from the venue.  Anyway have a safe drive. Don't forget to take rest breaks. Linnah 20:39, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Whangarei. Itll be about 2-2.5 hours drive, i'm probably arriving 11-12. Matt/TheFearow (Talk) (Contribs) (Bot) 21:46, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What should I do