Talk:Sikorsky CH-53 Sea Stallion

message: In movies 'The Jackal' https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Jackal_(1997_film), believe a couple others  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.113.202.37 (talk) 23:26, 21 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: No it was a CH-53E Super Stallion used in that film - FOX 52 (talk) 02:09, 22 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: In popular Culture

message: Wouldn't the CH-47 be the largest rotary winged craft in the Western World, perhaps in single rotor classes it may be the largest. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.128.1.3 (talk • contribs) 
:I think the Stallion, in particular the triple-engine Super Stallion, is classified as the WEST'S most powerful helicopter. Tomcat200 29 May 2006
Isn't the skycrane a larger helicopter on most counts than the Jolly? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.197.73.71 (talk • contribs) 
The latest models of the CH-47 can indeed lift more than the Skycrane, but the CH-53E is still dimensionally larger than both the CH-54 and CH-47. Bm5481 04:22, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Largest?

message: The "Helocast" photo is captioned as being a CH-53E, while (as has been acknowledged), the Echo model has a separate page on wiki. Just thought I should bring that to everyone's attention. Bm5481 04:19, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Take a look at CH-53E Super Stallion, and note the tail configuration of the CH-53E in the main pic. Compare that to the tail in the helocast pic. The CH-53E has the unique bent stabilizer; all other CH-53s (A-D, G, H, M) have the straight stabilizer. Also, tho it is hard to see, the 53E has a third engine one the left side of the top fairing. The image is mislabled, it's not an 53E. - BillCJ 04:40, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, I also meant to acknowledge everything about the empennage as Bill just did, but I forgot to. That was why I pointed out the discrepancy in the first place. haha Bm5481 05:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Helocast photo

message: Mexico was listed as a user of the CH-53, but with no explanation or source. Possible sneaky vandalism. My sources have no record of Mexico using them, so I've removed it. - BillCJ 07:32, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mexico

message: Just to explain my edits...
The BIM indicator is located at the root of the blade, not at the tip as noted in the previous edition. It was located there for a number of reasons, including easy access during  maintenance and shelter from damage during flight.
The S64E/CH-54A "SkyCrane" has a S-56 5 bladed main rotorhead with an additional blade grafted on for a total of 6. The S64F/CH-54B has a CH-53 nonfold type rotorhead, with a high twist version of the CH-53 blade for better hover performance.
The S64 and Ch-53 share virtually identical tail rotor heads and blades, all with S65 series part numbers.
So in summary, to say the CH-53 has rotor systems proven on the S64 is to put events out of sequence.
All CH-53 main rotor blades had BIM from the beginning of production.
I'll work on verification.Tipcapman1 (talk) 01:07, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The Blade Inspection Method (BIM) system was supposed to have started on CH-53Ds. -Fnlayson (talk) 01:24, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Verification would be good, especially since the S-64 was developed before the S-65 by most accounts. Granted, development on both systems probably occurred concurrently, but the S-64 is generaly recognized as the earlier system. Anyway, that's why the uncted changes were reverted. - BillCJ (talk) 01:29, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rotor system edits 

message: I think the Article should contain some Info about civil operators.
Are there any civil operators?
If yes, who? If not, why not?
Was the Stallion ever offered to civilian operators?
––130.149.52.33 (talk) 14:54, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Two were used by an outfit called Heavy Lift in California for fire fighting as the "Fire Stallion", not sure how it worked out as they are big and complicated helicopters and not designed for small civvy companies to maintain easily. Can be added if we can find some reliable sources. MilborneOne (talk) 15:12, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Heavy Lift was bought out by Roger Helicopters, Inc. and their fleet appears absent of any 53's. Looks like the "Fire Stallion" was short lived.  FOX 52 (talk) 19:38, 25 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Civil Operators? 

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message: Is  a WP:RS for the development of the CH-53? My 1962 Observer book of aircraft says that that CH-53 was a direct development of the Sikorsky CH-54 Tarhe. Mztourist (talk) 08:55, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: While Air Vectors isn't really a reliable source as such, it is fairly accurate, and uses reliable sources. The information given isn't contradictory, however. The fuselage is obviously a scaled up version of the S-61/SH-3 (S-61R/CH-3C to be specific), while the dynamic systems (rotors, transmission, etc.) are from the S-64, which is Sikorsky's model number for the CH-54, specifically the civil Skycrane. - BilCat (talk) 15:38, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: So Air Vectors isn't RS. What is the RS for the fuselage development? Mztourist (talk) 05:03, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll see if I can find one in my several print sources. - BilCat (talk) 05:32, 20 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Development origins