Talk:Arthur Cherep-Spiridovich

message: Re-affirmed today:--Ludvikus 18:50, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Spelling of name variation: Tcherep-Spiridovitch.
Yours truly, --151.202.104.190 21:05, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: A re-direct needs to be made for the name-spelling variation. --151.202.104.190 21:09, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Will also check the name above soon. --Ludvikus 11:01, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Tcherep-Spiridovitch]] 

message: :LC Control No.: 	 26020907
:Type of Material: 	Book (Print, Microform, Electronic, etc.)
:Personal Name: 	Cherep-Spiridovich, Arthur, Count, 1858-1926.
:Main Title: 	The secret world government : or, "The hidden hand" : the unrevealed in history : 100 historical "mysteries" explained / Cherep-Spiridovich.
:Portion of Title: 	Hidden hand
:Published/Created: 	New York City : The Anti-Bolshevist Publishing Association, 1926.
:Description: 	195 p. : ill. ; 24 cm.
:Notes: 	At head of title: Maj.-Gen., Count Cherep-Spiridovich.
:	Includes bibliographical references.
:Subjects: 	Jewish question.
:LC Classification: 	DS141 .C45
:Other System No.: 	(OCoLC)538569
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The Library of Congress gives us in the above record our protagonist's name. Need I say more? --Ludvikus 10:50, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal Name: Cherep-Spiridovich, Arthur, Count, 1858-1926. 

message: Google gives only six hits under the above name .
:I do not yet know if that's the same person as the subject of our article. It calls for some research. --Ludvikus 10:58, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Alexander Spiridovich]] 

message: An editor left the following anotation/commentary which has been deleted for Style impropriety:
     * The Secret World Government or The Hidden Hand: The Unrevealed in History
     — disinformation conspiracy theory book, of the secret "world government".
     As in many other conspiracy theory books authors biography and even name are dis[t]rorted
     as "count Arthur Cherep-Spiridovitch".
     It is not clear, whether book was written by Alexander Spiridovitch, or his name was used.
The article needs heavy cleanup. --Ludvikus 11:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Conspiracy theorist]] 

message: * Alexander Ivanovich Spiridovich (Александр Иванович Спиридович), 1873-1952 - russian police general, historian of revolutionary movement. biography
* Count Arthur Cherep-Spiridovich (Артур (Артемий) Череп-Спиридович), 1868-1926, - much more obscure. Known only by conspiracy theory book and some book on balkans politics. "Cherep" is Skull in Russian and it is very strange surname for Russian. Moreover, there is no such name in the Russian counts list, probably his count title is fake.
Maybe I have mixed two different persons. Or there was only one person, and the second is pen name for first? It seems, second, conspiracy theorist hardly meets Notability criterium. DonaldDuck 12:02, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Two different persons?

message: This is apparently incorrect. This man died in 1926. Somebody else in the USA used his name as a psuedoname in the 1930s, associated in 1933 with the Coalition of American Patriotic Societies. Not the same person. - Yorkshirian (talk) 23:52, 6 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Hitler

message: In the personal column of The Times, 13 May 1920 p 2 - a list of unclaimed property at the Ritz Hotel ('collect it or it will be sold') - inter alia Count Spiridowitch 1 piece. Jackiespeel (talk) 16:42, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you referring to? The phrases you quote do not appear in the article but even if they did I do not see how they are relevant to the charge of "attack article". Jaydubya93 (talk) 01:16, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: A passing mention?

message: More than half of this article is composed of four unabridged chunks of text from the subject's anti-semitic diatribe. The quotes have their own subject line, are unintroduced or put into any sort of context - they are seemingly apropos of nothing. A biography of a bigot is not an opportunity to republish that bigots ravings unabridged. I have removed the "Key Examples Of Hidden Hand - 1925" until it can be replaced with a section meeting basic Wiki guidelines - clear, concise content from third party sources instead of Original Research. Jaydubya93 (talk) 01:24, 12 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Majority of this Article is Anti-Semitic Direct Quotation 

message: On several occasions recently, editors have added the claim that Cherep-Spiridovich assassinated, and/or that "when his body was found, the gas line had been turned off", etc.  I have not seen any printed source for the claim about the gas line, let alone anything in a reliable source.  An editor has added a citation to a website entitled "Sovereign Order of Saint John of Jerusalem / Knights of St. John" (), which asserts that Cherep-Spiridovich was assassinated, but does not provide any information to back up this claim; moreover, the website itself does not look like a reliable source.  I would be happy to remove this material from the article, but am leaving it in place in case any editor would like to shed some light on this theory or its origins.  Bruce leverett (talk) 02:03, 6 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claim that Cherep-Spiridovich was assassinated 

message: A cited reference would be desirable for the claim that his title of "Count" was legitimate and was conferred by Vatican officials.  Bruce leverett (talk) 15:00, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Count