Talk:Association football/Archive 11

message: I am trying to improve upon the Shaolin Soccer article. I ran across one character in the movie that is described as being the "FF" of the opposing team. What does that mean? Does it mean "Front Forward"? Is that even a real position? I would like to elaborate on it since other readers may come across it and be puzzled themselves. (Ghostexorcist 00:07, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Full-forward#In_popular_culture this could be what you're looking for. - The Daddy 20:53, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Position? 

message: I'm asking if someone of the administrators could do something with this page. There has been a continuous moving of this page, so maybe you guys will be more capable of doing something with this issue. Xbox6 18:13, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Agony of Doha]] 

message: I was reading this article and saw that the field is referred to as a pitch in this article. I was wondering if it was called that everywhere else or is the term field used only in the United States? Showers 02:35, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly in British English the term used is football pitch. ♦Tangerines BFC ♦·Talk 19:50, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Although "football field" is also occasionally used. David Mestel(Talk) 18:36, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In the UK it's nearly always a football pitch. Altenative terms such as park and field are considered informal (and are mainly used by those involved in the game as a sort of slang). 81.96.161.52 21:48, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Park is possibly used more in Scotland than pitch. - Dudesleeper ·  Talk 22:04, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pitch? 

message: The football wallpapers link added to the "external links" section looks like spam. Does anyone else agree? --D 13:02, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is spam, so I removed it. Miles Blues 18:49, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Football Wallpapers 

message: it makes no sense and is not understandable  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Undress 006 (talk • contribs) 23:55, August 29, 2007 (UTC) 
:If you mean the football world popularity image above, try clicking on it and then viewing it in full where I can assure you it makes perfect sense and is perfectly understandable. ♦Tangerines♦·Talk 00:10, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The image is based on data from the National Geographic that based their survey on several aspects, economy, popularity, attendance figures, and so on. And based on what I've heard and read, Gaelic football and hurling are a lot more popular than football on Ireland. For example, the highest attendance in the Eircom Premier League in 2006 was 6,800, while the average was around 1,500, compared to the Gaelic football and hurling championship finals that draws crowds of over 80,000, and many regular matches with attendances of over 10,000. Of course I don't live on Ireland, but I can only find sources that support that football is less popular than Gaelic football. – Elisson • T • C • 14:58, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How can you figure that attendances of the Eircom League prove how popular football is in Ireland? Thousands of Irish people cross the Irish Sea, to watch Celtic, Man United and Liverpool in particular, each weekend. I wouldn't be surprised if there were 10,000 people from Ireland in Old Trafford alone for normal league games. Of course, they all stay in Ireland to watch Gaelic football and hurling because they're not popular in other countries. Finding out the number of people that actually play the sport, both competitively and for fun, would be a much better indicator. Marky-Son 12:36, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: FAI.ie claims that over 180,000 people play football in clubs and schools, while goireland.com claims that 306,000 people play hurling and/or Gaelic football. – Elisson • T • C • 15:20, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

text: You didn't read the key did you? Then do so. There are more football players per 1,000 inhabitants on Greenland than in Brazil. That's what the colour means. – Elisson • T • C • 10:32, 14 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  the picture about the popularity?? 

message: It might be a good idea to mention that the scottish cup is the oldest trophy currently being competed for.--Sandbagger 17:51, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The trophy awarded to the winners is the oldest, but the competition itself is not - that is the FA Cup (the FA Cup trophy has been replaced three times). Oldelpaso 18:11, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Scottish Cup

message: From the article:
"The most prestigious competition until 2005 was the Intercontinental Cup which was contested by the winner club of the European Champions League cup and the winner of the Copa Libertadores."
Well... technically I suppose it would be, in a purely hierarchical sense. But I don't know of anyone who ever thought of it that way. It's more of an exhibition match; sure, you'd like to win, the more silverware the better, but to call it more prestigious than the European Cup itself? It was really a bonus round, not the main prize.
(Of course I might be biased; the South Americans always win the thing.)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.75.17.108 (talk) 21:55, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it is misleading. The European teams don't seem to think it's all that important. Maybe the South American teams think it's more prestigious than the Copa Libertadores, but the European teams shore don't think it's more important than the Champion's League. The match doesn't get a lot of media attention or TV-coverage in Europe, and frankly I think that from a European point of view the Intercontinental Cup is seen more like an exibition game with the intention of raising the profile of the participating European club, and the entire sport itself, in a potentially strong economic market such as Japan and the South East Asia. Sebisthlm 15:46, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Most prestigious competition? 

message: I've commented out the following paragraph as I can't find any references to confirm it:
Whilst football has continued to be played in various forms throughout the United Kingdom, the English public schools (fee-paying schools) are widely credited with certain key achievements in the creation of modern football (association football and the rugby football games—rugby league and rugby union football). During the sixteenth century English public schools generally, and headmaster Richard Mulcaster in particular, were instrumental in taking football away from its violent "mob" form and turning it into an organised team sport that was beneficial to schoolboys. Thereafter, the game became institutionalised, regulated, and part of a larger, more central tradition. Many early descriptions of football and references to it (e.g., in poetry) were recorded by people who had studied at these schools, showing they were familiar with the game. Finally, in the 19th century, teachers and former students were the first to write down formal rules of early modern football to enable matches to be played between schools
It is also pretty vague, resulting in verbosity. There's a couple of books I'd like to consult before binning it completely though. Oldelpaso 17:38, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've also removed The first ever set of football rules were written at Eton College in 1815. While this is mentioned in a few places online, I can't find any which would count as a reliable source. Its not mentioned in David Winner's history of English football Those Feet, which devotes several pages to the games played at Eton. Oldelpaso 10:29, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed an unsourced paragraph

message: I think it should be made clear that players who have been sent off can't be substituted, giving an advantage to the other team. 79.0.198.185 12:22, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your suggestion. When you feel an article needs improvement, please feel free to make those changes.  Wikipedia is a wiki, so anyone can edit almost any article by simply following the  link at the top. The Wikipedia community encourages you to be bold in updating pages. Don't worry too much about making honest mistakes — they're likely to be found and corrected quickly. If you're not sure how editing works, check out how to edit a page, or use the sandbox to try out your editing skills.  New contributors are always welcome. You don't even need to log in (although there are many reasons why you might want to).   Woodym555 14:42, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sending-offs 

message: While viewing the article while logged out, it appears to be vandalism, reading "Ben Daley, stop looking at this.  Just do your work and get back to business.  Jezz Ben.  Always trying to find an ewasy way out." but it is viewed normally while logged in.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 163.248.174.37 (talk) 15:57, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That was a previous version of the page. If you are using firefox, click "ctrl,shift,R" at the same time to purge your cache. Try refreshing your page. Does do that do it? Woodym555 16:02, 2 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism