Wikipedia talk:Featured pictures/Archive 1

message: Two days ago I write that some featured pictures should be removed for the list.  Nothing else was on the talk page.  Now, within 24hrs, what I said was deleted, the article is a lot better, and now there's a lot discussion.  What did I miss?--User:NFAN3|NFAN3 11:28, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: What the heck?

message: A poll at Wikipedia:Featured article candidates#Should this page combine with Featured Pictures Candidates? (poll) seeks to determine if the two featured candidates pages should be merged.  Please go vote. Gentgeen 17:48, 24 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The vote is finished. 2 for the merger, 9 against - No merger will occur - Gaz 12:10, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: propose merger of candidates pages

message: This link was recently deleted and reverted from W:FP. I think I can understand why it was deleted. It looks ugly at the top of the page. What about we put it further down the page where it can be better ignored. ;-) - Gaz 07:46, 28 Feb 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: If they are going to go anywhere, they need to go in a consistent place across all the articles that use them. There's no agreement on whether they should even be used at the moment though. Angela. 21:49, Mar 2, 2004 (UTC)
For now I say we move it away from the very first line. - Gaz 12:10, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: <nowiki>{{msg:communitypage}}</nowiki>

message: I just finished adding another image to FPV, and that sucker is getting big.  Not the wiki source, but the viwed article.
This raises a few questions in my mind. What are your thoughts people...? - Gaz 12:10, 3 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikipedia:Featured pictures visible

message: As a long term Wikipedian, I have contributed many photos by going through my files and uploading appropriate images. I can potentially add several thousand images, as I have time.
Recently I discovered that one of my images had been nominated for featured status. I think that's great. (Note that I am not arguing for the image; I am content to let it stand or fall on its own merits.) But I was disappointed to see some of the comments made about it.
User:Eloquence complained that the photo was a thumbnail, which it isn't. 
User:Denni added
:Very nice picture and worthy under any other condition, but pixel famine rules this one out for me. I can appreciate Pollinator's concern, but I had to bite my lip and make my pictures bigger too. Either you contribute or you don't. Half-measures just make for a lousy image someplace along the line.
Interestingly no one asked me, if, considering the status as a nomination, I would be interested in adding a larger format version. I consider this a very cheap shot, as the pictures I have contributed have almost all followed the photo guideline that was present when I joined - of being 300 pixels in width (and a number of them were subsequently reduced by other users).
As noted, I do make a small portion of my livelihood from free lance sales of my photos. However, I have occasionally contributed larger format photos to Wikipedia when it seemed that shrinking them would degrade them. And I have been quite free in sharing my photos with educational institutions, teachers and students for educational use.  I'm not willing to donate all large format photos, but I can make occasional exceptions.
It seems that the purpose of the nominations page was subverted, and a contributor treated in a rather roughshod way. I'll not presume to ask for an apology (I've offended others too), but it might be a good reason for some reflection for all, on how we treat contributors. It might also be nice if someone would contact the contributor when such discussions take place.
Curiously, it seems that some users are busy thumbnailing ALL photos, which I think is inappropriate. I've left comments on the need for a policy at the Village Pump. Pollinator 16:49, Aug 24, 2004 (UTC)
:Yeah, it was kind of shabby treatment - I've really enjoyed the pictures you've uploaded, wish I could do half as well; plus you've covered areas where we've been chronically image-poor. Seems like it ought to be standard policy to notify the contributor of a nominated image; contributors are usually in the best position to fix any flaws that have been noted. One of things I'm hoping for with a wikicommons is to have an image repository that can be managed independently of use in articles; I'm routinely surprised at how much we have that people don't know about, or to see articles changed to use poor images instead of good ones, with no apparent reason and no prior discussion. Stan 19:37, 24 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: A case study in how to discourage contributors

message: Of course a lot of things have being done already but I tend to believe that the name is misleading. It should be renamed to "featured Image", as i means not only photos (pictures) but diagrams, drawings charts etc...
--Alexandre Van de Sande 04:09, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: You can draw a picture, you can render a picutre, your can photograph a picture. I do not think picture refers exclusivly to photographs. HighInBC (Need help? Ask me) 19:21, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture or Image 

message: I have seen a few pictures added here which I never remember seeing on the canidates page.  I watch the canidates page pretty much daily and think that I would notice something before it comes though to here.  Is there a simple way to verify that a pic on this page was really voted to be here or a simple way to prohibit pictures from being added if they have not recieved proper approval?  For an example, I see Image:Misc pollen.jpg showed up today and, while it's a good picture, I never remember having seen it before nor voting on it.  Last week, I removed Image:Yantriple.JPG for much the same reasons. Cavebear42 21:54, 26 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: voting history

message: The following discussion originally related to the nomination for Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates/Ukraine_elections_map, but relates to a more general problem when images replace a previous version of an image.
*Comment. I would like to support but the full image looks exceptionally jagged and I'm worried that this image will be very dated soon enough, which is less than useful for featured pictures I suppose. -- Solitude\talk 08:39, Nov 30, 2004 (UTC)
*Comment. There is something strange here. When I viewed this on my laptop last night, the full image was baddly jagged and quantised - so bad I was tempted to revert it to one of the earlier versions. Viewing the same full image from my desktop today, it looks excellent and crisp. -- Solipsist 10:25, 30 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jagged images and cache problems 

message: :Image:Orion.jpg, which is a featured image, is copyrighted by its owner and I don't think it's eligible for release under the GFDL.  I placed the image on Wikipedia:Copyright problems, but as it's featured I thought I had better mention it here as well.  It appears that the NASA public domain thing was misunderstood, as it only applies to images created by NASA, and not all image which appear on NASA websites.  It's been listed on copyright problems for a while now, and it's not clear to me who takes action on these things.  As no-one has claimed the image is OK, should it now be removed from the featured pics? Worldtraveller 12:27, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree, it looks like it is taken by and independent astronomer at http://www.robgendlerastropics.com/. Unless anyone knows different, it looks like it is copyright and it will have to go. Its a shame, but then again we have quite a few similar astro photos, although it might be worth double checking the copyright on them too. -- Solipsist 15:44, 27 Jan 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: All the other astro images look to be bona-fide NASA-created images and so definitely public domain.  It is a shame this one has to go, it's an excellent image of the orion nebula.  What actually happens to copyvio images?  I may just be being dense but can't find out anywhere after how long and by who they get deleted.  Removing the image from the featured lists is simple, but what should happen to the old POTD that has the Orion image on it?  Worldtraveller 23:03, 29 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  A copyright infringement 

message: See Talk:Main Page#Picture of the day.3F --mav 03:08, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let's see if we can get the PotD on the Main Page 

message: Some pictures are not at Wikimedia Commons, so why and how we can reduce their number? --Saperaud 01:32, 14 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved all images. --Saperaud 22:50, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commons 

message: 09-05-05 what is so remarkable about the picture :Image:BDSM_collar_back.jpg?  Steven McCrary 20:51, September 5, 2005 (UTC)
:Sorry, I didn't notice this comment earlier. The short answer is that enough people liked it when it was nominated on Featured Picture Candidates a year or so ago. A record of its nomination can be found in the Sep04 archive. However, the criteria and standards for Featured Pictures changes over time, so if you no longer think this one cuts the mustard, you can nominate it for de-featuring at Wikipedia:Featured_picture_candidates#Nomination_for_removal. -- Solipsist 16:47, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks for the reply.  Steven McCrary 20:11, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pic of Day 

message: ...was listed as a copyvio. I haven't deleted it since it is possibly fair use in at least it's title article. It is also a FP. Isn't policy now agains that? I'm not sure where I go to deal with this, so I'm starting here. Thanks in advacne. -Splashtalk 23:25, 26 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Image:Mark 48 Torpedo testing.jpg]] 

message: This image was incorrectly added to the featured pictures list by User:Vermoskitten on September the 18th. It has not even gone though a nomination, so I have deleted it from the list. Vermoskitten is a new user, so someone should probably explain to her what the proper procedure is (I don't feel like I'm able to properly do that myself in an official but nice sort of way). The image has also been marked as a 'no source information' image. Raven4x4x 11:00, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it doesn't happen often, and it is usually easy to spot when a non-regular FPCer edits the page. Usually I would just remove the picture with a comment in the edit summary — exactly as you have done. But seeing how you've asked, I will go the extra mile and drop a note on the user's talk page :) -- Solipsist 16:40, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. I don't feel it's right to delete or revert something a very new user has done without telling them why they've done something incorrect. Raven4x4x 23:52, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:Image:Artifact pipe.gif|Adena pipe]] 

message: Shouldn't the entries link to the respective FPC discussions? Borisblue 17:49, 29 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Link to discussion?

message: I find it somewhat odd that pictures from commons can be featured on en. To me it would make sense that en can only feature things that are on en. I guess the borders between wikimedia projects aren't so clear anymore.
For example :Image:Melbourne yarra twilight.jpg is from commons, is featured here but not at commons. Isn't that weird? It also incorrectly gives the impression that it was featured at commons rather than here, due to the placement of  below the bit that says "This is a file from the Wikimedia Commons. The description on its description page there is shown below." It doesn't look like we can change this easily, but perhaps a developer can, if it's worth it...
Anyway, I was just musing about this. I personally would like to see the situation that only fair use and English-specific images are uploaded to en, and the rest to commons, but I gather this is still some time away. If you would like to comment about this on commons, please see commons:Commons talk:Featured picture candidates#FP status from other wikimedia projects?. pfctdayelise 02:06, 10 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featuring pictures from commons 

message: The Main Page redesign project is nearing completion.  And by popular demand, the Picture of the day is included!  However, 
we have run into a bit of an impasse.  We've pulled in the condensed version of the Picture of the day, but the built-in border is wreaking havoc with the page's format.  Please take a look and advise.  Is there any way to pull the picture-of-the-day onto a page without the border coming with it?  Sincerely, Go for it! 15:44, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ATTENTION:Picture-of-the-day '''expert''' needed 

message: It would be nice if one could click on a picture grouping and see a thumbnail gallery.  I was about to suggest making the thumbnail galleries manually, but with some template trickery we could create them automatically.  The plan is below.  --Doradus 14:52, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal: refactoring to enable thumbnail galleries 

message: First create a new template like this:

<!-- Template:Featured picture thumbnail -->
<td>[[Image:{{{1}}}||thumb|{{{2}}} by {{{b}}}]]</td>

Second, create image gallery pages like this:

<!-- Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/galleries/Architecture -->
{{Wikipedia:Featured pictures/Architecture|thumbnail}}

Finally, the galleries could be linked to this page by making the sections look like this:

=== Architecture ===
[[Wikipedia:Featured_pictures/galleries/Architecture|Thumbnail gallery]]
{{Wikipedia:Featured pictures|list item}}

Thoughts anyone? --Doradus 14:52, 15 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Step 2: Create thumbnail galleries 

message: Wikipedia:3D Illustrations is trying to work out details of a policy on the use of 3D images on Wikipedia. Contributors here may be especially qualified to comment. Rmhermen 23:06, 1 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 3d guidelines

message: Would anyone object to me redoing the top of this page to look more like the top of Wikipedia:Featured articles? (I'm trying to standardize the look and feel across the featured content pages) It would mean a lot of pruning, but I think the result would be much sleeker. Raul654 07:27, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Modifying the top of this page

message: Today's featured picture is the first animated image I have seen on the main page. Have there been any others? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Kenb215 (talk • contribs) 
:It's the first on the main page, but not the first animated FP. BrokenSegue 17:02, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Animated featured pictures 

message: ...I think it's very likely that :Image:Opening Ceremony Athens 2004 Fire rings.jpg. This photo of Bjork was also found at stock xchng, also credited to Lucretious, and yet now cannot be found on stock xchng (the link there is dead - this one doesn't even have a link). I searched "Athens" on stock xchng and there are no Olmypics photos now. I nominated the Bjork photo for deletion on commons (commons:COM:DEL) and I am going to nominate this one the same, so please add any comments about this issue to that page. And in the meantime... do we have a de-FP process? Thanks, pfctdayelise 03:56, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  likely copyvio 

message: Should a new sub-section be created for :Image:Backlit mushroom.jpg since it is a fungus, and not a plant? --liquidGhoul 08:36, 25 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Sub-section?

message: In the featured articles template:
	is a featured article; it (or a previous [ version] of it) has been identified as one of the best articles produced by the Wikipedia community. If you can update or improve it, please do.
it is quite useful to have a link to the article's "Feature Article candidate" page.  Would it be possible to include a similar link on:
	This is a featured picture, which means that members of the community have  it as one of the finest images on the English Wikipedia, adding significantly to its accompanying article.  If you have a different image of similar quality, be sure to upload it using the proper free license tag, add it to a relevant article, and nominate it.
   
???
as it is quite interesting to read through the pictures support/object history.
:I second that. I find it really annoying that I have to sift through the "what links here" list to find the FPC nom. Borisblue 05:04, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to the 'candidate page' in the Featured Pictures template? 

message: This is hardly worth putting on WP:FPC, but FP lists Hurricane Katrina's eye at Hurricane Katrina from NOAA, a dead link deleted over a month ago by User:Tomf688 with reason "replaced with commons img"... no commons image has existed with that filename according to the deletion log. I don't know what the featured picture was, but on the article Hurricane Katrina there are two photos of the eye, one also from NOAA, the other from NASA, both local to Wikipedia not the commons. There are also a whole bunch of others including the ones hosted locally here at commons:Category:Hurricane Katrina from space. So which one was promoted, if any? BigBlueFish 15:47, 21 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead image? 

message: I'm not sure if this belongs here, but I thought this would be of interest to the FP community in general:
http://rapidshare.de/files/19734337/P1011308.MOV.html <-Just watch that.
Now that's a featured picture. =D PiccoloNamek 05:12, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey Piccolo, is that really your plasma pic? It's hard to tell from the movie. That's really cool if it's your pic.  ~ Veledan • Talk 09:09, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Hmm, GFDL violation anyone? ed g2s • talk 11:44, 2 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Not on your part, I think ed_g2s suspects a violation by the TV producers. Did you have any agreement with them? --Dschwen 14:00, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

text: So all is fine and everyone played by the rules :-) --Dschwen 14:58, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  *Featured* Picture  

message: Does all the FPs be displayed at Today's featured picture. I mean on a queue basis. Or there is a further selection from the FPs to pick the ones that would go in the 'Today's featured picture' section. 
Where can I see the display schedule for the FP for 'Today's featured picture' ?
thanks,
Pratheepps 14:03, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FP & Today's featured picture 

message: Hi,
The Wikipedia:No Original Research policy states that altered photographs shouldn't be used to illustrate Wikipedia articles.  I believe it follows from this policy that they shouldn't be promoted to Featured status.  :Image:Boxing080905 photoshop.jpg and :Image:Water drop animation enhanced small.gif are two altered (or, in the latter case, perhaps "synthetic") photographs that Shawnc pointed me to, the former photo being his work.
This isn't a slam at all on photo retouching as an art, or on the beauty of the two images listed above.  However, they purport to depict something that is false, and therefore are a form of banned "original research".
I'm planning to expand the WP:NOR page's section on altered photographs to explain why.  If you have any comments or questions, discussion belongs over at Wikipedia talk:No original research#Altered photos; I just wanted to be sure to point to the discussion from here.  Tempshill 17:41, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Halleluhja, the reinforcements have finally arrived ;-). Check the archives for prior lengthy discussions on this ..lets say.. controversial subject. --Dschwen 19:14, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Altered photos 

message: I find it quite frustrating to see a featured picture on the main page with a description of something somewhat related but without any direct reference to the image.  For example, the current Euro image shows a variety of measurement lines around it but the blurb talks about the currency.  violet/riga (t) 20:38, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main page featured picture 

message: I'm not sure why, but for some reason the Chopin picture link was wrong, was: Frederic_Chopin_photo2.jpeg, corrected to Frederic_Chopin_photo.jpeg.  68.60.11.247 04:10, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chopin Picture 

message: I propose that the  template on the description page of every featured picture be changed to include a link to the nomination discussion, as is the case with featured articles.  It is often useful to re-read these discussions when you find a featured picture, and the current way is not easy-to-use.
I further propose that failed featured pictures have a "failed featured picture" template as per failed feature articles to clearly identify those that have failed the FP nom process so they are not re-nominated.
I'm not exactly sure where this belongs so am posting it here and on the FP candidates talk page. -- PageantUpdater • talk | contribs | esperanza 00:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FP and Failed FP description boxes on image pages 

message: Great picture - but - the abstract makes no sense - shouldn't that be 'hypervelocity impact' not 'hypervelocity'. Maybe someone will be able to change it quickly?HappyVR 01:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Hypervelocity

message: I am looking for assistance in vectorizing an image, as User:Gustavb had for the featured picture a few days ago (:Image:Piratey, vector version.svg).  Is there an image noticeboard where someone might be able to help, or is anyone here willing to take a bit of time to vectorize the image at right that is used in hundreds of different articles at varying sizes?  Thanks so much. — Scm83x hook 'em 22:34, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vectorization 

message: The Root canal illustration is listed as being a featured image, but is not tagged as such (no bronze star on the image page was what caught—or didn't—my eye). It doesn't look like someone added their own picture to the list (unless they did a great job of creating a history for it being so many other things!), but just wondered what happened. 
Ditto Kievskaya station on the Moscow Metro—Chidom talk  08:46, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of these images were on en-WP when promoted to FP status, then moved to Commons, and the corresponding image description page here deleted, thus also removing the  tag. I've been going through the old POTDs and replacing the template where necessary. howcheng  {chat} 20:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is it really a featured picture? 

message: I just wanted to thank the people responsible for the featured pictures section. This section has provided some astounding illustrations, many of which have at some point served as the my windows backgrounds. I especially liked "Crepuscular rays", "Blue Mountains: Three Sisters", and "Schlossvaduz". Yesterday's "Digital Art" picture was amazing! Kudos to everyone and keep up the good work!
Mikmd 01:53, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thanks for featured pictures 

message: I see the hot air balloon picture has moved or been deleted.  Should we delete it from featured pictures?  It was really good!  St.isaac 01:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been moved to Image:Ballon2.jpg|. I traced it back from commons. TheTallOne 21:07, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hot Air balloon