Talk:List of symphonies by Joseph Haydn

message: :The Toy Symphony is now thought to not be by Haydn after all, though it was, and sometimes still is, attributed to him. Leopold Mozart is often put forwad as the possible composer, but I don't know if there's any certainty about that. Maybe it's worth mentioning this, maybe not. I won't add mention of it myself, but if somebody else feels a quick note is appropriate, I won't argue. --Camembert
My understanding is that very few scholars and musicians believe the Toy Symphony to be by Haydn anymore. I'm also pretty sure that the term "Toy Symphony" is actually a misnomer; if I remember correctly, it's actually a cassation. These two facts lead me to believe it does not belong on this list. I am, however, taking both of these facts from memory, so if someone can demonstrate I'm wrong, I'd be glad to hear it. Heimstern Läufer 05:36, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How about adding Toy Symphony? 

message: I added several of these a few months ago; however, a better perusal of Grove suggests to me that many of these are still uncertain, and that often all we know is that a symphony was completed by a certain year, not in which year it was completed. So, I'll be working on reflecting this more correctly in this list now. Heimstern Läufer 23:43, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked up #64.  Steinberg says 1773.  Hurwitz says 1773. allmusic.com acknowledges "conjectures ranging between 1773 and 1778".  DavidRF 01:43, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I can tell, Grove is willing to assert that it was composed by 1778 at latest, while noting 1773 as a possibility. Perhaps we could list 1773 as the probable year of composition, while observing that it may have been as late 1778? We'd need to cite this well, of course. Heimstern Läufer 01:57, 4 January 2007 (UTC)

text: I will continue to change years of composition to match the better-sourced individual articles. "alyosha" (talk) 16:40, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Years of composition 

message: *+81 (album)
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
*102 (number)
**Symphony No. 102 (Haydn)
*1763 in music
**Symphony No. 13 (Haydn)
*94 (number)
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
*Abschieds-Symphonie (redirect page)
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
*Adelaide (Beethoven)
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
*B-flat major
**Symphony No. 98 (Haydn)
*Bariolage
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
*Casio SK-5
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
*Charles Groves
**Symphony No. 92 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 104 (Haydn)
*Classical period (music)
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
*Clock (disambiguation)
**Symphony No. 101 (Haydn)
*Cor anglais
**Symphony No. 22 (Haydn)
*Definition of music
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
*Double variation
**Symphony No. 53 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 63 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 70 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 82 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 90 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)
*Drone (music)
**Symphony No. 104 (Haydn)
*Drumroll symphony (redirect page)
**Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)
*Drumroll Symphony (redirect page)
**Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)
*Drumstroke Symphony (redirect page)
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
*Dynamics (music)
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
*E-flat major
**Symphony No. 22 (Haydn)
*Eszterháza
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
*F minor
**Symphony No. 49 (Haydn)
*F-sharp minor
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
*Farewell
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
*Farewell Symphony (redirect page)
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
*Fire Symphony (redirect page)
**Symphony No. 59 (Haydn)
*Fugue
**Symphony No. 13 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 88 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 95 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 101 (Haydn)
*Get Out of My Yard
**Symphony No. 88 (Haydn)
*Grammy Award for Best Album Notes
**Symphony No. 48 (Haydn)
*Grammy Award for Best Recording Package
**Symphony No. 84 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 85 (Haydn)
*Haydn and folk music
**Symphony No. 85 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 104 (Haydn)
*Hungary
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
*Invasion's Garden Evolien
**Symphony No. 60 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 73 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 96 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 101 (Haydn)
*István Kertész
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 104 (Haydn)
*James Webster (musicologist)
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
*Jean-Baptiste Morin (composer)
**Symphony No. 73 (Haydn)
*Jena Symphony
**Symphony No. 97 (Haydn)
*Johann Christian Bach
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
*Joseph Haydn
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 100 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 102 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 104 (Haydn)
*Le diable à quatre (opera)
**Symphony No. 8 (Haydn)
*Le Matin
**Symphony No. 6 (Haydn)
*List of recurring in-jokes in Private Eye
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
*List of symphonies by key
**Symphony No. 8 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 13 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 22 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 39 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 44 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 46 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 49 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 52 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 59 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 64 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 70 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 88 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 92 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 93 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 95 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 96 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 97 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 98 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 99 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 100 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 101 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 102 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 104 (Haydn)
*List of symphonies by name
**Symphony No. 6 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 8 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 22 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 26 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 31 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 44 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 48 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 49 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 53 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 55 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 59 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 60 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 63 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 64 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 69 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 73 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 82 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 83 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 84 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 85 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 92 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 96 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 100 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 101 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 104 (Haydn)
*List of symphonies in A major
**Symphony No. 59 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 64 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 65 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 87 (Haydn)
*List of symphonies in B flat major
**Symphony No. 66 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 68 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 71 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 77 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 85 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 98 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 102 (Haydn)
*List of symphonies in C major
**Symphony No. 48 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 56 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 60 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 63 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 69 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 82 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 90 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 97 (Haydn)
*List of symphonies in C minor
**Symphony No. 52 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 78 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 95 (Haydn)
*List of symphonies in D major
**Symphony No. 6 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 13 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 53 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 57 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 72 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 73 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 75 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 86 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 93 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 96 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 101 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 104 (Haydn)
*List of symphonies in D minor
**Symphony No. 26 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 34 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 80 (Haydn)
*List of symphonies in E flat major
**Symphony No. 22 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 76 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 84 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 91 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 99 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)
*List of symphonies in E minor
**Symphony No. 44 (Haydn)
*List of symphonies in F major
**Symphony No. 58 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 79 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 89 (Haydn)
*List of symphonies in G major
**Symphony No. 8 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 54 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 81 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 88 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 92 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 100 (Haydn)
*List of symphonies in G minor
**Symphony No. 39 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 83 (Haydn)
*London (disambiguation)
**Symphony No. 104 (Haydn)
*London symphonies
**Symphony No. 93 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 95 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 96 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 97 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 98 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 99 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 100 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 101 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 102 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 104 (Haydn)
*London Symphony
**Symphony No. 104 (Haydn)
*Malcolm Sargent
**Symphony No. 88 (Haydn)
*Miracle (disambiguation)
**Symphony No. 96 (Haydn)
*Mit dem Paukenschlag (redirect page)
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
*Montage sequence
**Symphony No. 104 (Haydn)
*Music of Ren and Stimpy
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 101 (Haydn)
*Natural trumpet
**Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)
*Nikolaus Esterházy
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
*Oj, Jelena, Jelena, jabuka zelena
**Symphony No. 104 (Haydn)
*Oregon Symphony
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
*Papa Haydn
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
*Paris symphonies
**Symphony No. 82 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 83 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 84 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 85 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 86 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 87 (Haydn)
*Piano Concerto No. 14 (Mozart)
**Symphony No. 80 (Haydn)
*Piano Sonata No. 8 (Beethoven)
**Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)
*Pierre Monteux
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 101 (Haydn)
*Playing the violin
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
*Robert Simpson (composer)
**Symphony No. 76 (Haydn)
*Roxelana
**Symphony No. 63 (Haydn)
*Scordatura
**Symphony No. 60 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 67 (Haydn)
*Sonata form
**Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)
*Sonata rondo form
**Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)
*Sturm und Drang
**Symphony No. 26 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 44 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 49 (Haydn)
*Surprise
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
*Surprise Symphony (redirect page)
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
*Surprise symphony (redirect page)
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
*Symphony in D minor (Franck)
**Symphony No. 22 (Haydn)
*Symphony No. 35 (Mozart)
**Symphony No. 104 (Haydn)
*Symphony No. 4 (Simpson)
**Symphony No. 76 (Haydn)
*Symphony No. 5 (Beethoven)
**Symphony No. 46 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 96 (Haydn)
*Symphony No. 59 (redirect page)
**Symphony No. 59 (Haydn)
*Symphony No. 6
**Symphony No. 6 (Haydn)
*Symphony No. 8
**Symphony No. 8 (Haydn)
*Symphony No. 8 (Beethoven)
**Symphony No. 101 (Haydn)
*Symphony No. 94 in G Major (redirect page)
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
*The Seasons (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
*Three Blind Mice
**Symphony No. 83 (Haydn)
*Trevor Pinnock
**Symphony No. 6 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 8 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 26 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 39 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 44 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 46 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 48 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 49 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 52 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 58 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 59 (Haydn)
**Symphony No. 65 (Haydn)
*Turkish crescent
**Symphony No. 100 (Haydn)
*Turkish music (style)
**Symphony No. 100 (Haydn)
*University City Symphony Orchestra - Programs by Season
**Symphony No. 26 (Haydn)
*User:AlexNewArtBot/MusicSearchResult/archive6
**Symphony No. 8 (Haydn)
*Variation (music)
**Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)
*Variations on a Theme by Joseph Haydn
**Symphony No. 101 (Haydn)
Above is a list of articles (click show on the right) that link to these symphony articles. For example, +81 (album) has a link to Symphony No. 94 (Haydn), Turkish crescent has a link to Symphony No. 100 (Haydn), and so on. --Pixelface (talk) 10:37, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles that link to these symphony articles

message: Links	Article(s)
22   	Symphony No. 94 (Haydn)
20   	Symphony No. 45 (Haydn)
14   	Symphony No. 104 (Haydn), Symphony No. 103 (Haydn)
11   	Symphony No. 101 (Haydn)
7    	Symphony No. 96 (Haydn), Symphony No. 100 (Haydn)
6    	Symphony No. 8 (Haydn), Symphony No. 22 (Haydn), Symphony No. 59 (Haydn)
5    	Symphony No. 6 (Haydn), Symphony No. 44 (Haydn), Symphony No. 49 (Haydn), Symphony No. 85 (Haydn), Symphony No. 88 (Haydn), Symphony No. 102 (Haydn)
4    	Symphony No. 13 (Haydn), Symphony No. 26 (Haydn), Symphony No. 48 (Haydn), Symphony No. 60 (Haydn), Symphony No. 63 (Haydn), Symphony No. 73 (Haydn), Symphony No. 82 (Haydn), Symphony No. 83 (Haydn), Symphony No. 84 (Haydn), Symphony No. 92 (Haydn), Symphony No. 95 (Haydn), Symphony No. 97 (Haydn), Symphony No. 98 (Haydn)
3    	Symphony No. 39 (Haydn), Symphony No. 46 (Haydn), Symphony No. 52 (Haydn), Symphony No. 53 (Haydn), Symphony No. 64 (Haydn), Symphony No. 76 (Haydn), Symphony No. 93 (Haydn), Symphony No. 99 (Haydn)
2    	Symphony No. 58 (Haydn), Symphony No. 65 (Haydn), Symphony No. 69 (Haydn), Symphony No. 70 (Haydn), Symphony No. 80 (Haydn), Symphony No. 86 (Haydn), Symphony No. 87 (Haydn), Symphony No. 90 (Haydn)
1    	Symphony No. 31 (Haydn), Symphony No. 34 (Haydn), Symphony No. 54 (Haydn), Symphony No. 55 (Haydn), Symphony No. 56 (Haydn), Symphony No. 57 (Haydn), Symphony No. 66 (Haydn), Symphony No. 67 (Haydn), Symphony No. 68 (Haydn), Symphony No. 71 (Haydn), Symphony No. 72 (Haydn), Symphony No. 75 (Haydn), Symphony No. 77 (Haydn), Symphony No. 78 (Haydn), Symphony No. 79 (Haydn), Symphony No. 81 (Haydn), Symphony No. 89 (Haydn), Symphony No. 91 (Haydn)
This table ignores links having to do with Template:Haydn symphonies and links to each other. --Pixelface (talk) 10:57, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the list.  These symphonies are more notable than many people would first think, no?  Haydn was very innovative and was always looking for interesting ways to make each symphony different.  Because of that, these symphonies contain many "firsts" that are precedents for later compositions.  DavidRF (talk) 15:17, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears some may be more notable than others. Of the articles with 1 link to them Symphony No. 57 (Haydn), Symphony No. 66 (Haydn), Symphony No. 67 (Haydn), Symphony No. 68 (Haydn), Symphony No. 71 (Haydn), Symphony No. 72 (Haydn), Symphony No. 75 (Haydn), Symphony No. 77 (Haydn), Symphony No. 78 (Haydn), Symphony No. 79 (Haydn), and Symphony No. 81 (Haydn) have no references. --Pixelface (talk) 16:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Every one of them will be discussed in the usual musical sources -- in considerable detail. DGG (talk) 17:29, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Articles with the most links to them

message: There's been more than four attempts.  Christopher Hogwood got about two-thirds the way through and Roy Goodman got even further before their labels pulled the plugs.  Thomas Fey's recent releases say "Complete Symphonies" on the CD covers, but he's only a third the way through and releasing one or two discs a year, so I'm skeptical.  Also, Naxos has a complete cycle available but its spread amongst six conductors.DavidRF (talk) 10:42, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Complete Cycle Attempts