Talk:Companions of the Prophet

message: Aside from the fact that Muslims regard Muhammad as the last of the Prophets, I must ask, how is "Companions of the Prophet" WP:neutral, considering that the majority of people, that is non-Muslims with the exception of Bahais, do not consider Muhammad to be a prophet? Leo1pard (talk) 16:46, 28 July 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Its just a commonly used term for what is an Islamic concept. Why wouldn't we refer to Islamic concepts by their Islamic names?VR talk 17:04, 10 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality: "Companions of the Prophet" versus "Companions of Muhammad" 

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message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: no consensus. There is an unending deadlock between the applicabilities of WP:PRECISE vs. WP:COMMONNAME in this case. (closed by non-admin page mover) — Ceso femmuin mbolgaig mbung, mellohi! (投稿) 07:21, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Companions of the Prophet →  – I understand the rationale that "companions of the Prophet" is a widely-used term in literature, but I think we should be wary of describing any religious leader as "the Prophet" in Wikivoice. Similar concerns seem to have been raised on the talk page a while ago, so I think this warrants wider discussion. QueenofBithynia (talk) 17:40, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Well what about moving the article to Companions of the Prophet Muhammad? Rreagan007 (talk) 19:43, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: This would also move away from the standard term, and it is not clear to me that the current title is even causing any confusion. Readers will only arrive here through links or by searching for this highly specific term. Is there another prophet with lots of companions that the current title could readily be confused with, such that it requires clarifying? Iskandar323 (talk) 19:57, 27 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: For what it's worth I would not support this compromise and would rather it stay at its current title than move to Companions of the Prophet Muhammad. QueenofBithynia (talk) 21:53, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

text:  In this case Prophet is being used as a proper noun, so it should be capitalized Criticalus (talk) 04:34, 4 November 2022 (UTC)

text: Comment Agreed. There also seems to be misunderstanding in the meaning of the current title, and also in the reactions to it. Calling Mohammad "the Prophet" in this context is 'NOT' an endorsement of Islam by any means, rather it is just using the commonly used academic term here. If the Disciples of Jesus were termed 'Disciples of the Son of God' in common literary parlance, would there be a similarly toned discussion? I think not. Comments like "This is not the Islam Wikipedia" impart religious overtones to what's otherwise a cut-and-dry academic issue. I worry that biases and phobias may be creeping into the discussion, which if so, is definitely not WP:NPOV and seems more like WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS. Before any consensus can be gleaned, perhaps this needs a relisting. Criticalus (talk) 16:02, 7 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 27 October 2022