Talk:Gaucho (album)

message: To call Christgau's B- a "positive review" is perhaps overstating the case.  His own definition of a B- was "a competent or mildly interesting record that will usually feature at least three worthwhile cuts." These days he rarely bothers writing about anything lower than a B+, and has said on more than one occasion that, life being finite, he doesn't recommend spending time on mediocrity when excellence is always close at hand. His (as always) succinct review in its entirety: 
"With Walter Becker down to composer credits and very occasional bass, Donald Fagen progresses toward the intellectual cocktail rock he's sought for almost a decade--followed, of course, by a cadre of top-drawer El Lay studio hacks, the only musicians in the world smart enough to play his shit. Even the song with Aretha in it lends credence to rumors that the LP was originally entitled Countdown to Lethargy. After half a dozen hearings, the most arcane harmonies and unlikely hooks sound comforting, like one of those electromassagers that relax the muscles with a low-voltage shock. Craftsmen this obsessive don't want to rule the world--they just want to make sure it doesn't get them. B-"
"Hacks"? "Shit"? "Lethargy"? Relgif (talk) 17:02, 13 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Incidentally Mr. C. seems to have missed out on the fact that many of the sessionmen were East coast - Aja was the actual L.A.-played album. 83.254.151.33 (talk) 10:22, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Christgau

message: Anyone have an idea of approximately how much time - and the patience of their musicians - they could have saved if they'd had access to a good sampler for the drumming? A few years later, Scritti Politti achieved something like the kind of drumming I imagine Steely Dan were after on the Cupid & Psyche 85 album, a record where, by Green Garthside's own admission, pretty much everything was run through samplers, especially the drums.83.254.151.33 (talk) 11:24, 8 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Becker was to use the drum machine extensively on his 1994 solo album 11 Tracks of Whack, but am not convinced it always succeeds. Certainly for Gaucho, and other albums, B&F made a big thing about using Bernard Purdie and his trademark "shuffle". Martinevans123 (talk) 10:45, 22 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Perfect drumming 

message: According to http://www.post-gazette.com/opinion/tony-norman/2006/08/04/Don-t-mess-with-Steely-Dan/stories/200608040182 , Keith Jarrett was given a co-composer credit on the title song. I've updated the track listing.
Jrdeardorff (talk) 20:18, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jarrett credit on "Gaucho" 

message: "Resemblances between the subject of "Glamour Profession" and second year NBA player Magic Johnson have been noted but not confirmed as intentional..." Could anyone who has access to pages 197-8 of the Lazenby  (2006) book actually tell us what they say? That current passage in article is not really convincing that it was any more than just an off-the-cuff descriptive throw-away comparison. Martinevans123 (talk) 19:54, 14 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Magic Johnson]]? 

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message: I suspect the song Gaucho is about someone who is gauche.   118.149.210.16 (talk) 03:52, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meaning of the song Gaucho 

message: The introduction states that Gaucho is a major stylistic change for SD, as the "harmonically complex chord changes" that were their trademark are "less prominent" here.
"Babylon Sisters", and even more so "Glamour Profession" seem to me some of the most harmonically complex songs Walt and Don have ever written (probably the most, actually), on the other hand, all their previous albums have included some fairly simple blues variations.
So , this comment doesn't make sense to me, as it is basically false, or at the best, meaningless.
:Yes, I have my doubts too. It's not really sourced to any expert opinion, is it? Martinevans123 (talk) 18:18, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not harmonically complex? 

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message: ... awkward sentence:
"However, the pair's working relationship began to strain, '
'strain?' 2001:44B8:3102:BB00:9579:17E1:C82E:6896 (talk) 04:02, 25 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please fix this... 

message: In the "Outtakes and bootlegs" section, "Were You Blind That Day" is described as "dating from the Aja sessions," which accords with this essay by Brian Sweet but is not mentioned in the article cited. Also, in the block quote that follows, Larry Carlton says his guitar solo was recorded for The Royal Scam, and I know I have heard him make this claim elsewhere. It would not seem that the track is a verified Aja outtake. Or, in any case, it is confusing to refer to a 1977 album as the track's origin then quote a guitarist claiming he played on the track for a 1976 album. ClayTroup (talk) 21:20, 17 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Were You Blind That Day" Origin