Talk:Portuguese heraldry

message: § "General features", ¶ 5, begins
: Since the very early, the round bottom shield has been the preferred shape to display the coat of arms in Portugal,...
Something's missing... Thnidu (talk) 21:47, 31 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I've deleted "the", leaving the grammatical "since very early" (i.e., in the history of Portuguese heraldry).  Thnidu (talk) 02:17, 15 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Since the very early" WHAT? 

message: The whole article was evidently translated, presumably from Portuguese, by someone who was not a fluent speaker of English, and it is riddled with minor errors of construction (wrong preposition, definite article missing or inserted, etc.). I'm working on it. Thnidu (talk) 19:55, 2 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Still working on it. Next section:  Unified bodies' heraldry.--Thnidu (talk) 04:06, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  awkward translation 

message: I just finished copyediting this article, correcting mostly what appeared to be errors in translation (presumably from Portuguese) due to literal translation and/or unfamiliarity with English idiom. Then I went to look at the other language pages – only Spanish and Portuguese exist – in the hope of checking up some unclear expressions. Although I can't really speak Spanish or even approximately Portuguese, I can make enough sense out of both of them for some basics. I was shocked to find that the  Portuguese article is only about 210 words long, and the entire text of the Spanish article is "La heráldica portuguesa se ha usado desde el siglo XII", i.e., "Portuguese heraldry has been used since the 12th century," while  this article, in English, amounts to 
:Prose size (text only): 80 kB (13963 words) "readable prose size"
So where did the rest come from? Especially since it was evidently not written in English by a fluent speaker of English, but translated from a Portuguese or other Romance language original.
I'm posting this question to the Teahouse as well.
Please  me to discuss. --Thnidu (talk) 02:56, 24 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible copyright violation

message: My edit to this paragraph was (automatically?) reverted: "The male children of the Monarch use the arms of Portugal differentiated by a label. The eldest son, as the Prince heir of Portugal, uses the label with all its points empty. The cadets (infantes) have the points of the label charged with arms of their ancestors (usually the arms of the lineage of their mother), other than the arms of Portugal. The first infante has only the sinister point of the label charged, the second one has the sinister and dexter points charged and the third and following infantes have all the three points charged."
I corrected that to the "first infante has only the dexter point of the label charged", which is what the illustration shows for the arms of the "First Infante of Portugal".  Either alter the illustration or alter the description of the illustration, since they are contradictory.  (Nor do I understand the rapid reversion.)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2001:569:720B:D00:51F1:8393:68E:8546 (talk) 22:21, 1 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion of dexter/sinister