Wikipedia talk:Requests for comment/WHEELER

message: #03:22:55 User talk:Jwrosenzweig  . . AndyL (Talk) (WHEELER)
#03:22:02 User talk:172  . . AndyL (Talk) (WHEELER complaint)
#03:21:13 User talk:John Kenney  . . AndyL (Talk) (WHEELER complaint)
#03:17:36 User talk:Adam Carr  . . AndyL (Talk) (WHEELER complaint)
Sam [Spade] 03:54, 2 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Evidence of organized effort against WHEELER

message: Wheeler in this comment: "My authors are constantly called "rightwing"cranks. Cranks is the word they used. That is a slur. but will that be punished noooooo just Wheeler.WHEELER 17:05, 3 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree strongly that "crank" is less serious of a personal attack (usually it was WHEELER being called a crank, not his sources) than the confused statement he made alleging Jewish culpability in the Russian gulag system (or maybe communism generally, it was hard to tell). Sam [Spade] 17:21, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

text: If you seriously think I haven’t considered such I'm not sure what to do to bolster your amazing lack of confidence in my abilities. More likely you simply don't know a better way to express the extent of your disapproval than incredulity? Sam [Spade] 23:48, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

text: Bumhug. Sam [Spade] 18:56, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Right wing - Left wing

message: As WHEELER has not only not apologised but dug himself somewhat deeper what is the best remedy for this? I don't see that there's anything to mediate. AndyL:
:No, this offers an excellent chance for mediation. If I were mediating this I would take Wheeler aside (perhaps not that easy online) and ernestly explain to him his prospects if this case goes to arbitration which are dismal indeed. At that point, if he has any sense at all he might begin asking, "What the hell has got them so upset?" and armed by a skillful mediator with the answer to that question make an apology. I will be recusing myself should this go to arbitration, after all I have been fussing about it for 24 hours nonstop, but Wheeler is on an evil path if he keeps on. Fred Bauder 22:53, Jul 4, 2004 (UTC)
::Anyone who can get across to him why people are so incredibly upset at the things he says that they want to make whole new hard policy over them will deserve a Nobel Prize for Diplomacy Under Fire - David Gerard 23:20, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be happy to try to mediate, assuming there is a convenient non-wiki way to communicate w him. Sam [Spade] 23:45, 4 Jul 2004 (UTC)

text: Whichever, I reccomended Kim on your talk just a moment ago. As far as your critique of my skills as an advocate, I can't quite come up w any advice on that not so colorful as to get me my own RfC ;) Sam [Spade] 04:23, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Fred would be an outrageously bad choice. David might work, I donno. Sam [Spade] 17:55, 5 Jul 2004 (UTC)

text: The primary method appears to involve "Flaming the new user until things get so crazy a ban/policy change is needed, repeat as necessary". I prefer Kim's method of thoughtfully discussing wiki policy. Thanks Kim. Sam [Spade] 18:27, 6 Jul 2004 (UTC)

text: I've put in a mediation request at Wikipedia:Requests_for_mediationAndyL 05:37, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Remedy