Talk:The Church (band)

message: The Church redirects here?  You cannot be serious.  An Australian rock band is not the image that appears in your head when someone says "The Church".--Ferox117 (talk) 09:00, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That depends on where your head is at. If you type Church, you get a wider selection. Eyedubya (talk) 22:47, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The Church refers to the Catholic Church--58.170.7.127 (talk) 08:23, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  For Catholics, maybe, but for everyone else, that'd have to be 'The Catholic Church'. Eyedubya (talk) 10:17, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The Church

message: Someone redirected this page to a disambiguation page without fixing the link on the disambiguation page itself. I've fixed it now; looks like the new page is The Church (band). Pjmorse 21:49, 9 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguation

message: A lot of this article reads as either POV or unsubstansiated claims.  For example, it is claimed that the making of Priest=Aura took place under the influence of drugs, particularly opium. How on earth can this be proven (and how does the author know?)?  Also, it is claimed that this album met with critical disdain.  Yet several of the songs (particularly Ripple and Feel) enjoyed considerable airplay on many U.S. Alternative stations (89X in Detroit is a good example) following the album's release.  I'm not trying to cast stones at anybody, but a LOT of this article seems very heavy on POV and very short on cited facts.  westmt01 3 Aug 2006
::The opium reference has come up here and there in interviews with individual members. I particularly recall Peter Koppes making reference to it around Hologram of Baal. The article reads "allegedly," which means it isn't 100% confirmed - this would likely require asking the band directly, I imagine. Regarding Priest=Aura's success, although not noted in the article, it did quite well on college radio and modern rock charts. That's not the same thing as critical acclaim however and Rolling Stone panned it with a two-star review. The band members have gone on record numerous times saying it was basically ignored commercially and sales were well below that for Gold Afternoon Fix and Starfish.
::As for the article being "very heavy" on POV and "very short" on cited facts, if that's the case, someone should start making a list of precise instances of POV that need addressing. Anything that's disputed should be brought up here on the discussion page. I don't know where all the information here originally was pieced together from. I went in and made this thing more encyclopedic a long time ago, but it still needs a lot of work. As far as I'm concerned, that's up to others as I simply don't have the time to devote to this anymore.
::Xerius 0:31, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: POV?

message: Hi, I have uploaded a sample of the Church's "Under the Milky Way". Not sure how it would be best worked into this article but please include it: :Image:The Church - under the milky way.ogg. The  template may be of use. cheers. pfctdayelise 05:16, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Sound sample

message: I think the article is too long (like The Masters Apprentices!) and much of the info. should be placed in the articles on individual albums. Keep it concise and encyclopedic in the main article. --Design 05:26, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: * Indeed, that would've been nice, but I wasn't the one who did the moving--I just found the old page redirecting to the disambiguation page, which linked to the old page, which... you get the picture. Pjmorse 15:39, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Oh, alright. Sorry for the accusation. Folkor 08:23, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Length of article

message: If anyone has time or the inclination, it would be nice to have individual album pages for these releases, with the cover, track listing, and other information. Most bands of the Church's stature seem to have that. We could include some of the commentary that is now in the history section which would make that a bit more concise, especially for newbies. Wikipedia:WikiProject_Albums has lots of suggestions about how to approach it. Rigadoun 18:36, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Album pages

message: Anyone know how to move the talk page at Talk:The_Church here without losing the comments here? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pjmorse (talk • contribs) 21:15, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old talk page 

message: Fact box and intro text conflict. Which is right?Piperdown 13:02, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canberra or Sydney "origin" 

message: The song "Life Speeds Up" was on the movie soundtrack "Storm Riders"(1982), should this be noted anywhere in the article? It was actually this soundtrack that I first heard The Church and began buying their albums. Mrhyak 19:38, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Songs on Music Soundtrack 

message: This is likely not what most people are expecting when typing in "The Church" (ie, probably the Roman Catholic Church instead), so rename to "(band)" and redirect to Church dab page. 70.55.203.112 (talk) 12:15, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: *Support. It is unusual to make a redirect primary; but this is an extreme disparity. Septentrionalis PMAnderson 16:51, 22 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Face it, they're red links. Should it be removed? Farslayer (talk) 09:55, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Useless song sample section? 

message: In my opinion, this article is excellent.  Much "inside information" but no pandering.  Great job on the initial writing and translation.  I hope that it can withstand the persistent efforts to screw it up.  Loveless Fascination (talk) 04:48, 8 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excellent Article 

message: Article requires more in-line references and some tidying up. I'll attempt to provide these in the next week or so. Other editors are welcome to join in.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 06:33, 17 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: In-line citations required

message: *I've tackled much of their early years up to about 1990s. There are still a number of claims and quotes (generally re: Kilbey) which have no in-line citations.
*I've created a separate The Church discography leaving behind only the studio albums.
*I've trimmed the ELs, providing a dmoz link.
*More needs to be done, especially for the later years but I'm having a hiatus from The Church for awhile.shaidar cuebiyar (talk) 01:47, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Progress report

message: The suggestions that the guitar-based soundscapes were gone on this album, and that the guitar-based sound returned on "Magician" are quite difficult to agree with. There are lots of guitars on "Sometime", including several long solos. The guitars are on the other hand mixed in quite different ways than on the previous albums, with more variable effects. Sponsianus (talk) 19:07, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Guitars gone on "'''Sometime Anywhere'''"?

message: Although this article is on my Watchlist, I have not been monitoring it closely and, it was only when I updated information today, that I realized the page now reads like a fan website—one section even promoted the record label website that sells some of the band's output. I have inserted templates and some tags, in addition to a cursory revision, but I will endeavor to complete a more thorough revision over the next few days. Please reply if you think my claims are unwarranted. Thanks.--Soulparadox (talk) 05:47, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: This article requires a thorough revision

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