Talk:Sexuality of Abraham Lincoln

message: If discussing sexuality of celebrities is worthy for a wikipedia entry it should be at least a complete discussion.
There is strong evidence for Lincolns straight sexuality among which is his well documented severe depression after he initially broke off with Mary Todd,
strongly indicating he had deep romantic feelings for her.
This article thus is one sided and at the very least needs a serious revision.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Eizieizz (talk • contribs) 16:00, 9 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:SOFIXIT. A section like that already exists, anyhow. IgnorantArmies 02:54, 10 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Evidence for Lincolns straight sexuality 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: This article really seems to be working from almost nothing that’s not debunked within it. Is this claim really notable enough to spend a whole article saying there’s essentially no evidence? DemonDays64 (talk) 06:31, 9 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Lincoln was not a malicious person 216.164.249.213 (talk) 11:34, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grasping at straws 

message: The intro contains a very misleading paragraph that reads as follows:
  Mainstream historians generally reject theories of Lincoln's homosexuality, noting that the historical context explains away the supposed evidence, that he had romantic ties with women, and that he had four children in an enduring marriage to a woman.
The main problems with the paragraph is that it assumes Lincoln was either Strickland gay/homosexual or straight and ignores the possibility hew was bisexual, which is the more common speculation about Lincoln seen these days anyways. If he was bisexual then he could have had romances, sex, and children with woman while still enjoying the company of men too, though maybe not at the same time. Second, it assumes that a gay man can’t have relation and children with a woman which has been disproven by the existence of so-called Lavender marriages, where gay men and women marry the opposite sex and even sometimes have children together in order cover up their sexuality. If Lincoln was either bisexual or in a Lavender marriage then the arguments by these mainstream historian against the “Lincoln was gay” still doesn’t prove Lincoln was 100% straight. As such, I bee bold and add a disclaimer to the section, regarding bisexuality possibility. - Notcharliechaplin (talk) 17:28, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a valid possibility. On the other hand, since there isn't a historical source to support it, I suggest that we remove the speculation and simply rephrase the confusing claim that "mainstream historians hold that Lincoln wasn't homosexual" to "mainstream historians hold that Lincoln was heterosexual". It is more accurate and simple to focus on the positive claims which have evidence than this possibility which does not. ENordquist (talk) 03:28, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro/Lead section contains a misleading paragraph