Talk:GSG 9

message: The recently added sidebox says "Command structure: 	Directly under control of the Bundespolizei".
But on the official page of the German Federal Police I found this: "Die Entscheidung über den Einsatz der GSG 9 trifft das Bundesministerium des Innern (BMI). Näheres ist in einer besonderen Dienstanweisung für die GSG 9 geregelt." If I understand this correctly it means that the GSG 9 is directly under control of the Federal Ministry of the Interior....
Source: http://www.bundespolizei.de/cln_030/nn_483418/DE/BPOLP__West/GSG9/gsg9__node.html__nnn=true
They are part of the Federal Police but in case they shall be involved in any action the BMI (Ministery of the Interior) decides. But I'm not sure how we should write that into the box. M9IN0G 21:30, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Command Structure 

message: This section could use a clean up, as it is not necessary to make such subsections and only have one sentence per section. Maybe making it a table?
Imasleepviking 16:04, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Organization section 

message: The translation given in the article is "Operation Fire Magic", while a ...zauber is a magic spell, so "Operation Fire Spell" would be closer to the original meaning. Not sure if "Operation Fire Magic" has been used in any official texts regarding the matter - maybe someone could check that and change the article if it seems appropriate?
82.212.13.37 19:17, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you that "Fire Spell" could be considered a more appropriate translation. However, "Fire Magic" seems to be widely used in the English speaking world (as far as one can consider 263 google results as "widely"; there is only one google result for "Operation Fire Spell", which, coincidentally, is this page). There also seems to be an entry in the "SAS Encyclopedia" by Barry Davies: "Assault on LH181: The True Story of Operation Fire Magic", which I take as a definite reason to stick with "Fire Magic". --80.145.124.254 10:40, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Operation Feuerzauber

message: Information about this is listed twice. I would remove one, but they seem to contradict each other. Under the section "History" it says 
Under "Miscellaneous" it says 
If someone could verify which one is correct, then delete the incorrect one. I believe the first quote was added last. This sections also has some weasel wording (in the sentence before) and peacock terms (swept away the competion) and it seems it's a POV addition about GSG 9 and I would say the last paragraph is correct. But I haven't verified. Perhaps someone with some knowledge could do that. --Fogeltje (talk) 21:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discrepancy for SWAT Championship

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message: I removed the information about that incident because even though I checked dozends of sources in German and English I found no evidence for the GSG 9 involved in it. To the best of my knowledge there was not even an actual storming of the airplane but ordinary policemen (no Sondereinsatzkomando) went on board of the airplane. Not only that; the information that two Somali citizens were taken into custody definitely is wrong. The German police explicitly stated that it were a Somali citizen and a German citizen born in Mogadishu. Jsde (talk) 22:33, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of Information on Cologne/Bonn Incident 

message: I think this section should be dropped as there are no references given and I doubt there will ever be. Hence most of the section is mere speculation and should be removed or referenced. Since I am no expert in this matter, I shall not do that myself. Thanks, 194.246.46.15 (talk) 11:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the section is adopted from the german GSG9 page. U r right most of them is just speculative cause of the security but some of them are obviously, for example the MP5, MP7, G36, HK416 and the HK USP. Its a special unit, u wont find so many information about it.--84.161.84.60 (talk) 13:45, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The 416 was never used by the GSG 9 'till now.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.228.5.68 (talk) 21:34, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Equipment 

message: EOD and IED should be spelled out completely or linked to the respective (correct) Wiki article. There are ambiguation pages for both and although the connection to explosives seems to be the most reasonable one, e.g. IED could also refer to "Intelligent electronic device". Could somebody please straighten this out? Not everyone around here is a SWAT professional. Thanks, 194.246.46.15 (talk) 11:15, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abbreviations 

message: I know that saudi-arabias SF are very close to them, because Wegener helped the king to form them.--94.218.13.238 (talk) 09:12, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which countrries modeled their special units.... 

message: Just read the first paragraph of the histroy section, where it talks about the Munich Massacare. It seems biased against Germany and their police.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.72.155.123 (talk) 01:47, 29 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed the same thing. The article asserts that tense relations with Israel contributed to the police's inability to effectively handle a domestic issue. Such events seem unlikely to be related. I'm surprised it has stayed in this long. Lest I simply delete this out of ignorance, I've added a  tag in hopes of drawing attention to it. un4v41l48l3 (talk) 08:04, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Ditto. Hence I removed the claim in question. Unsourced, questionable and contentious. If anyone wants to reinsert it, please provide proper sources. Kleuske (talk) 08:06, 18 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neutrality 

message: Is there a source available for this? This is a bit new to me and I havent read it elsewhere as well. --88.77.241.178 (talk) 08:31, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Its formation was based on the expertise of the Israeli Sayeret Matkal." 

message: Top secret would mean that releasing those names would "endanger the existence of the Federal Republic of Germany [...]". I would guess it's only confidential. But as long as there is no source, maybe it would be better to write just classified.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Harald Meier (talk • contribs) 16:20, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The identity of GSG 9 members is classified as top secret" 

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