Category talk:Religion

message: This category is getting a bit cluttered.  Let me propose some things that might help...
* New top-level scheme
** Create a new top-level subcategory "Religions of the world" and put Christianity, Buddhism, Islam, Chinese thought, Zoroastrianism, etc. in it.  (Or recycle :Category:Religions for this purpose?)
** Create a new top-level subcategory "Religious ideas" and put Atomism, Apostasy, Curse, Sacrifice, Soul, Predestination, etc. in it.  Should we individually add things like :Category:Buddhist philosophical concepts :Category:Islamic philosophy, etc.or just cross-reference "Religions of the world"?  The latter would reserve the category "Religious ideas" for concepts present in multiple religions, as opposed to concepts that fit neatly into "Christianity" or "Zen" or whatever.  (But see :Category:Mythology).
** Create a new top-level subcategory "Religion and society".  In it, put e.g. French law on secularity and conspicuous religious symbols in schools, Freedom of religion, Civic religion, etc.
* Move and order orders and movements
** Put Brahmo Samaj under :Category:Hinduism only, and delete :Category:Religious movements?  (I'm not sure it's a useful and clear category.)
** Create "Category:Christian religious orders", "Category:Jewish religious orders", etc.  Add these to :Category:Religious orders and file Camaldolese appropriately.  Populate the new subcategories.
** Articles in :Category:Religious leaders which are specific to Christianity (e.g. Patriarch of Constantinople, Bishop) should be moved to :Category:Christian leaders.  Parallel subcategories for other world religions should be created as needed.
* :Category:People by religion
** :Category:Muslims actually lists sects; it should be reserved for individuals, like :Category:Christians.  So, it needs cleaning out.
** In general, this category needs populating.
* Go forth and categorize
** Add many of the articles in the "See also" sections of Creation belief and Creation and related articles to :Category:Creationism.
** :Category:Religion by country is underpopulated.
** :Category:Religious festivals is underpopulated.
What do you think? -- Beland 03:31, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems like this has partially been done, but I can't really tell.  There are still way too many subcatagories, and probably too many articles... JesseW 11:25, 7 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorganization 

message: >> Another simple yet all encompassing definition would be that religion is anyones systematic attempt to please his or her God. <<
That hardly seems all-encompassing to me.  It excludes polytheism, atheism, and religious beliefs that have nothing in particular to do with gods or goddesses.  It also excludes belief in deities that do not require or deserve pleasing. -- Beland 22:42, 29 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, by the common meaning of the word, being a "god" entails having some kind of supernatural qualities, but an atheist hardly gives themselves supernatural qualities by denying that any gods exist, and they certainly need not elevate themselves above other people, including atheist or non-atheist.  My point about worship was not that some people worship gods but don't attempt to please them.  It's that some people believe that gods exist, but don't deserve to be worshipped.  That instead, we should attempt to destroy them, or not yield to their will because "might" does not make "right".  Or that we should simply ignore them because they are harmless.  Or that we can talk to them like friends or neighbors, but we're not supposed to worship them any more than most people worship their human friends and neighbors.  Some people even seem to believe that we have more power over the supernatural than it has power over us. -- Beland 02:06, 2 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definitions 

message: Proposal for creation of the subcategory "Astrology" under Religion (the same way there are subcategories "Mysticism", "Occult", "Spirituality", "Theosophy",...). It is, for me, questionable if these subcategories (and their articles) should be under category Religion and what's their direct relation to Religion?!.
Anyway, Astrology (not charlatanism) is an art and science used and studied worldwide and also throughout majority of mystical and occult movements which were better identified under an Esotericism category instead of Religion (this is only my personal point of view). 
The "Astrology" subcategory could contain already existing topics like "Astrologers" and "Age of Aquarius" and others.
Thank you. --ekhalom 20:25, 8 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, what is the difference between believing in a universal life-force and believing in an omnipresent God?  Or praying for enlightenment or searching the Bible vs. divining answers from the stars or contacting the dead?  Or asking God to heal a sick friend, vs. casting a healing spell?  It seems to me they all involve belief in the supernatural, which is the charter purpose of this category.  What differs is who believes which of these practices are based on factually correct theories. In other words, all of these things seem appropriate to have in this catch-all category. Otherwise, we'd have to decide which are legitimate and which are not. -- Beland 04:20, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  new subcategory "Astrology" 

message: User:Baphomet. is damaging Wikipedia: he his trying to label Religious articles as Superstition (from a POV view of positivism, that he calls Science). At the article Reincarnation he just went on to add to category "Superstition" and later on without discussion put a POV msg in the article. Please see the discussion page between both of us Talk:Reincarnation#Superstition.
Through the use of a Culture created by extremism in Science, he is clearly trying to do the job that the Inquisition did in the Middle Ages in a Culture created by extremism in Religion. He is damaging Wikipedia in a subtle invious way! 
: Please see also the Alert message I have created at Wikipedia:Wikiquette_alerts#September_4, Thank you! --GalaazV 20:25, 4 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for your aid dealing with actions from a user against Religious, Spiritual and Esoteric articles 

message: I intend to make the following categories
::religious movements by typology (see church-sect typology)
::contain :category:cults, :category:sects, :category:denominations :category:new religious movements
::religious movements by tradition
::containing :Christian denomination :Hindu denominations etc.
Please raise objections and suggestions within a week.
Andries 11:18, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: category religious movements by ...?=

message: I noticed that the category Religion is not subcategorized in :Category:Main topic classifications, but rather under :Category:Culture. Well, I certainly that the first has everything to do with the other, by I don't see how it's not appropriate to call Religion a major topic as much as Politics, Science and Sports (that are all inside Main topic classifications) at the same type it is considered a subtopic of Culture.
So, I would suggest adding this to the :Category:Main topic classifications (while not removing from the Culture cathegory).
Momergil (talk) 01:46, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion in the Main topic classifications category 

message: Right now you need to go several levels deep to reach :Category:Christianity and :Category:Islam (:Category:Religious faiths, traditions, and movements -> :Category:Monotheistic religions).  Is there objection to also including them as direct members of :Category:Religion? power~enwiki (π, ν) 21:08, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Only if all other religions are also. Editor2020 (talk) 22:36, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move Christianity/Islam up?