Talk:School counselor

message: *I have changed the external links so they spell out the website.--whicky1978 06:08, Jun 4, 2005 (UTC)
**I changed the links before I notice the edit. There is a strong argument in favor of spelling out links. The www is in constant change, and websites change or disappear. Also, some people may require to cut and past the link. Sure, it is possible to do this without it, but not everbody is computer literate.
I deleted an external link because it went to a generic landing page  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.178.120.144 (talk) 16:51, 9 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: The Peer Review Request has been removed, because it was never completed. Does that mean that I am the only school counseling expert on wikipedia?--whicky1978 15:40, Jun 23, 2005 (UTC)
I have re-added the peer review request, and I have asked for help with this article from others on the ASCA message board. I have asked them to edit this page thierself, or give me the info. to edit it.whicky1978 18:39, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am a School Counselor Educator, and will help. Kukini 17:57, 30 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Peer Review Request

message: I have added more info. and expanded the school counseling article, I have also added a pictures. More pictures would be helpful. Also, if we expanded the sections for elementary, middle, and high school counselor, or school counseling aborad, then I think we could take a shot, and apply for "featured article" status.whicky1978 18:37, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: added more info.

message: This article qualifies as a Class A article. It is well referenced with scholarly sources, it is peer reviewed, and it has a google ranking of 19, MSN of 35, and Yahoo! ranking of two. It attempts to be NPOV by including school counseling abroad as well as th US.whicky1978 talk 19:49, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nominations

message: I wanted to pass this for Version 0.5, I have certain reservations.  The article is heavily weighted towards the US, and this is fairly reasonable if the overview "mainly in the US and Canada" is true.  That leaves me with a couple of unanswered questions, though:
# What is the situation in Canada (professional bodies, certification, differences from US, etc)? I didn't notice any mention of this.
# How is this role covered in other countries?  I find it hard to believe that the rest of the word finishes school without a word of advice from someone - who is that someone?  In the UK, for example, I believe that the person is called a "career adviser" (may be spelt advisor) (such as this person).  I have no idea what these people are called in France, Germany, Japan, South Africa, India, China, Eqypt, but I expect they exist - perhaps as a tutor, or a designated teacher. 
I'd like to include the article in Version 0.5, we need more general articles on education areas, but it really needs to cover the perspectives from some other countries.  If you find the right book it should cover this.  I have held the nomination open in the hope you can fix this soon.  Thanks, Walkerma 03:35, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps the French Wikipedia article could help with the French perspective? Walkerma 03:05, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems this problem will take a while to address, so we won't be including the article in V0.5.  If you can get a wider viewpoint, please nominate it for a later version, we would like to include it! Walkerma 16:19, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments from Version 0.5 review 

message: I see EVERY reason why School Counselors belong in the education category and no reason why it does not. Please do not revert the category without discussion and consensus. Thank you, Kukini 19:03, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: After looking over the category, it appears to be quite narrowed from what I thought it was. There appear to be no other professional educational disciplines in the general category. I am thus reverting myself. Kukini 19:40, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Possibly the solution is to create School counseling (counselling?) as a subcategory of education in the same way as Educational psychology or Educational philosophy. And then School counselor would be categorized under both Education and School counseling by virtue of it being the main article for the new category. This presumes that School counseling currently redirects to School counselor (I haven't checked). Sorry if this seems convoluted. Nesbit 19:52, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Great feedback! I will look into doing this. School counseling does redirect to School counselor at present. Kukini 19:59, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, good. It would still be a minor anomaly because, as you say, it is the only occupation at the top level. But it's pretty easy to defend because the School counselor article is the main article for the whole field of school counseling, which, as a category, will probably grow over the years to include many articles. Another advantage of this solution is that it gives a more precise categorization of School psychology which would then be categorized under both Educational psychology and School counseling. The way to make the whole thing completely consistent would be to rename the article School counseling, but I can see some reasons why you might not want to do that and it's really not necessary in my opinion. Nesbit 20:15, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Education category 

message: Who listed this as a good article? It's completely US-centered, with a tiny section about "international" counseling. The word "international" is used here in the sense of "not American"; which is ridiculous for a global encyclopedia, considering the meaning of "international" (that is "between nations", but the section only explains a Korean domestic policy). Perhaps it should be moved to "School counselors in the United States"; meanwhile it will have a bias template.--cloviz 19:47, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no worldwide view on the subject. The occupation is popular as proved by search engine rankings, but is not found worldwide as it is described in the article. Therefore, there is no bias. Unfortunately, no one seems available to provide internation expertise on the subject.whicky1978 talk 03:58, 27 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Also, I have made attempts to globalize the article by posting in ASCA's forum, but with little sucess.whicky1978 talk 05:51, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is currently at Good Article Review. Teemu08 07:50, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The rationale that this article is written only from an American perspective is a tad problematic as, to my knowledge, there are no (or very few, if any) school counseling associations outside the United States to date and that school counseling itself is an American-based profession. Thus, the argument that this article fails the broadness criteria is based on a pretty limited perspective of school counseling. Kukini  hablame aqui 22:07, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good article? 

message: In a 6 to 2 vote, this article has been delisted, in addition to the American perspective thing as the primary rationale, there were also a few other concerns. Review archived here: Wikipedia:Good article review/Archive 16. Homestarmy 18:11, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Review

message: Umm, I'm finding that this page is dedicated to the US only. The existance of a section titled "in other countries" proves that the rest of the article is done from the wrong perspective. Let's not be biased here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.151.255.102 (talk) 19:26, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to add from other perspectives. It does seem that the globalize tag is a bit of an overstatement, as school counseling is far more predominant in the US than anywhere else. People have made efforts to internationalize this and I am sure will continue to do so as the information arises. I am removing the tag as it seems somewhat heavy-handed. --Kukini  háblame aquí 00:28, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not an American website. 

message: The first paragraph seems like something out of a cheezy brochure and doesn't say much that is intelligible or meaningful. I'd hope someone who knows more about the subject than me might rewrite it.--Nogburt (talk) 22:21, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Paragraph Needs to be Rewritten 

message: Only in America is student support called 'school counselling'. In the UK, it is still usually called pastoral care and the role is carried out by practising teachers called Heads of Year or Heads of House. My international school in Hong Kong calls it student development and the role is carried out by Heads of College. Every school in the world has some kind of system to support the well-being of their students and they should all be reflected in this article. The title of 'School Counsellor' might be reasonably particular to the US, but the job and the duties are not. Perhaps the title and the contents of this page should be adapted to recognise the entire international educational teaching and learning community.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.6.73.229 (talk) 01:15, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other countries do support their students... 

message: I would like to also add to the job growth paragraph: 
As of 2011, many positions in the school counseling field specifically in the United States have been eliminated due to budget cuts in the school system. In some areas, job competition is high for few positions.
http://www.schoolcounselor.co 
That is a .co (not a .com).
CounselorMom (talk) 18:03, 30 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: schoolcounselor.co is a parked domain and schoolcounselor.com is probably not an appropriate reference for these claims. -- Beland (talk) 00:16, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  I would like to add a new reference but unsure how to do it 

message: Can someone tell me - preferably in the intro para to this entry, what a K-12 student is, please?   I'm sure most people reading this know it already, but I don't, despite being reasonably well informed on other stuff.   I think it is more important that wikipedia increases the knowledge of those who don't know things than that it merely confirms the knowledge of those who do (though of course both functions are important in their different ways).  And in all countries where I've lived, whether or not where English is the mother tongue of most folks, the teaching profession seems to be particularly prone to jargon.   Well, I hope I don't tread on too many toes if I venture, with appropriate humility, the opinion that in the context of a need and genuine wish to expand knowledge, the jargonistas are far too influential in our own time.   And thank you and happy day ... Charles01 (talk) 09:43, 11 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  K-12 students 

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message: This article could use a lot more statistics on student:counselor ratios.  This recent article highlights disparities within the United States and within school districts across Massachusetts. Some states have mandated levels, but in many cases it seems to depend on local funding, with low-income communities having higher ratios. Many schools in Boston apparently depend on non-profit assistance. -- Beland (talk) 00:22, 20 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ratios 

message: Hello I am winner kalu and I'm looking for admission in Trinity University  I need a counsellor who can help me and I've not seen any so I hope you could help me it actually a University of aid I need a help I need a counselor thank you Wavyjay12 (talk) 16:56, 7 June 2021 (UTC)
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