Talk:List of Polish Jews

message: I recently deleted several incidences of these phrases, under the probably erronous impression that they were part of a vandal attack.  If so I apologise to the (anon) editor for my use of the word "vandalism".  They have since been partly reinstated and then deleted again.  Possibly this may be because it's not immediately clear what the meaning of these phrases is; they look a bit odd alongside "author", "mathematician" etc, as if "Jewish mother" was someone's profession or claim to fame. Perhaps it would be good to have a note at the top of the list specifying what counts as a Polish Jew, both in terms of geographical origin and parentage?  For example, having only a Jewish father might mean under some definitions that someone was not strictly speaking Jewish, I imagine? Apologies again for any confusion or unnecessary controversy caused. Flapdragon 21:05, 31 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I support the continued indication of "Jewish father" (or in my rephrasing, father Jewish -- see my new section, below). The technical definition of an individual's "being Jewish" according to the maternal lineage is a religious (halachic) distinction, and for the purposes of this list, I'd say there's a justifiable consideration to an individual's Jewish identity on a cultural basis, e.g. having been raised in a secular Jewish (by affiliation) family. Deborahjay 23:23, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Jewish father", "Jewish mother" 

message: To avoid the awkward construction of the parenthetical "Jewish mother", etc., please note my revision: slightly rephrasing plus italicizing. Deborahjay 23:17, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed solution to ''"Jewish father/mother"'' 

message: While it is now irrelevant here, as other sources have been found for Balthus, it must be noted that Jewprom is not a Wikimirror.  That is a precisely defined term; it is for sites like Answers.com, which contain complete copies of Wikipedia.  To describe a site that merely offers links to Wikipedia as a Wikimirror violates WP:V and WP:NOR unless there is a source that says that it is a Wikimirror.  There is no proof that Jewprom relied on Wikipedia for Balthus, and it is original research to assert that it did; it may well have used the sources now quoted here. --Brownlee 20:02, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You're absolutely right that Jewprom is not a Wikimirror. However, I think we should try to avoid using it, as I'm not sure it satisfies WP:RS. It is a large list of names maintained by an anonymous editor, with no sources given. A quick glance spots  some common mistakes, including both non-Jewish entries such as Milton S. Hershey and John James Sainsbury, and entries whose Jewish heritage is remoter than what is stated, such as George & Ben Cohen, Max Baer and Brad Ausmus. Udzu 22:14, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jewprom 

message: View the following WP:NPOV#Undue Weight, "We should not attempt to represent a dispute as if a view held by a small minority deserved as much attention as a majority view, and views that are held by a tiny minority should not be represented except in articles devoted to those views." 
Mickiewicz's mother 100% being Jewish is apparently just the view of whoever wrote that Jewish Encyclopedia entry, as it is disputed nearly everywhere else. We do not represent a minority view on the circumstance equivalently to the majority, which is a "debatable" Jewish ancestry. Furthermore, the only appropriate entry here would be Mickiewicz's mother and not Mickiewicz himself anyhow. Further attempts to add Mickiewicz to this list will be reverted. LaGrange 05:48, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia works from secondary sources in accordance with WP:NPOV and, where they contradict each other, editors do not usually seek to judge in order to reach a conclusion, but state the different point of view, so the reader can see what is being said in order to form their own judgement.-20.138.246.89 17:02, 11 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I did.  Nobody is citing the Jewish Encyclopedia.  The Encyclopaedia Judaica, a standard reference work, says that his mother was Jewish.  Another source says that she probably (though not certainly) wasn't.  There is no evidence that the view that his mother was Jewish is disputed nearly everywhere else or is a minority view, still less views that are held by a tiny minority.--20.138.246.89 09:35, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That Jewish Encyclopedia - "Encyclopedia Judaica" (translation: Jewish Encyclopedia). Yes, it is a minority view as no other source states it unequivocally. You are thus holding one reference higher than all other by adding his mother to this list. There's no trouble finding a reference that says Albert Einstein is Jewish anywhere. It's going to be in every one of his biographies undoubtedly. And yet, there's not a single biography which states that Adam Mickiewicz, or rather, Adam Mickiewicz's mother was Jewish undoubtedly. Is this a view by a tiny minority? Perhaps, but thats harder to prove. Furthermore, you do not have a source that says Adam Mickiewicz is Jewish, but rather his mother, so practice what you preach. LaGrange 15:09, 12 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh God. This time you didn't even bother referring to what I typed. LaGrange 00:11, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

text: WP:CITE. You're not citing anything about Mickiewicz, but rather Mickiewicz's mother. Hope you realize that otherwise it's WP:NOR violation to assume that Mickiewicz was Jewish because his mother was, even though that is in accordance with Jewish law. Anyway, it doesn't matter, neither would go on here. Like we've argued on List of Iberian Jews, we don't list people by the unproven possibilities of them having a Jewish relative. LaGrange 20:28, 13 September 2006 (UTC)

text: What the heading says is not relevant. Wikipedians do not define who counts as a Polish Jew, that is judged from outside references. If you want to make a list of people with possible Jewish mothers, that is where Mickiewicz would belong. His mother being Jewish is not 100% proven either similarly to the Iberians on List of Iberian Jews. This can be judged from all sources outside of Encyclopedia Judaica, which for some reason states it as a fact rather than a possibility, which it is fair to say could be an unconcious bias issue (the encyclopedia IS for Jewish subjects). What one place says does not hold dominance per WP:NPOV#Undue Weight to what every other place does, and this mode of evaluation referencing is perfectly allowed within WP:RS. Also "exceptional claims requires exceptional sources" per WP:RS. It is undoubtedly an exceptional claim to say Adam Mickiewicz was Jewish. Ask anybody on the Polish Encyclopedia if their national poet was Jewish. They'll be surprised to hear that info as it is in no way or form "common knowledge."  Secondly, it is not ONE source that says his mother's Judaism is totally speculative/improbable/a rumor, it is many including "The Occult Underground" by James Webb, that article by Regina Grol  mentioned on this talk page, and  Adam Mickiewicz - Poet of Poland by M. Kridl, in addition to the one foot-noted here by Weintraub. In fact, the majority of biographies don't even make mention of this claim, which makes one wonder. LaGrange 16:33, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Funny, where did I say Regina Grol was a good reference or for that matter, where did I cite it? I'm merely pointing out that many places don't say it unequivocally and since you apparently thought Regina Grol WAS a good reference, I pointed it out to you. We, as editors on wikipedia, not make "make up" definitions for things because, as everyone knows, thats original research. So List of Polish Jews cannot be whatever some user decides to put in the header, just like any other list can't do that and are being adjusted so that only people who honestly reflect the title can be placed there. However, there isn't much stopping you from making a list that would fit Mickiewicz, like List of people with possible Frankist mothers or something like that. As long as you can cite it as a possibility. LaGrange 05:06, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Adam Mickiewicz

message: He was not Jewish, only Polish!! don't be silly people
* Who are you kidding? Or do you not understand that it's a list of Jews by nationality, not by religion? LMB (talk) 08:04, 13 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stanisław Lem! 

message: Polish nationalists create lists of Polish Jews (sometimes false) which include, first of all, politicians and social activists. 
However, there is ONE specific exception to this general principle: prominent Polish cultural figures (poets, writers, artists, musicians, etc.) who were Jewish (or Jewish ancestry), such as Adam Mickiewicz, Krzysztof Kamil Baczyński, Stanisław Lem, Teodor Parnicki, Tadeusz Kantor, Jan Kiepura, Henryk Wieniawski, and many others.
Polish “true patriots” do not agree with these facts, so they permanently remove them from the Category: Polish Jews.
Dr Mibelz
Mibelz 11:32, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think Mibelz is being anti-Polish here. It is true that there are anti-Semites in Poland (they're a minority of course) who consider themselves "real Poles" and "true patriots", and one of their favorite pastimes is making up biased and mostly false lists of Polish Jews (see this example) with "true names" and descriptions such as "Pole-eater" or "Polonophobe". And it's true that you will find lots of politicians (either genuine Jews or not) in such lists, but no great artists. Naturally, this is not what we want to reproduce here in Wikipedia and we must be extremely cautious that this does not happen. We should always assume good faith, but at the same time make sure some user (or vandal) does not push an anti-Semitic agenda here. Nor should we use such lists of "conspiring Jews", which are abundant in the Internet, as a source of information for Wikipedia. And I guess this is what Mibelz was trying to warn us against. Kpalion 19:07, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A specific symptom of Polish anti-Semitism 

message: As with all other lists on wikipedia, we can only put anybody on this list who fits the description of a Polish Jew. In other words, we're not going to redefine the list simply to add Americans like Alan Pakula and Geddy Lee. The primary view is that these people are Americans, not Polish Jews, despite their background. Much in the same way that actor George Clooney is viewed as an Irish-American not an Irishman, or author Kurt Vonnegut is a German-American and not a German.. For that reason we bother having a list of Polish-Americans in the first place. Just because this is a list of Polish Jews, doesn't make it separate from other lists with nationalities. I've asked on the TALK:List of Polish Americans for someone to come and explain. 141.213.212.42 12:41, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please provide a link to the appropriate WP policy.--20.138.246.89 11:29, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have alrady contacted people working on List of Polish Americans to help come and explain. They have yet to respond. 141.213.210.40 13:29, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Besides, you seem to agree, at least in part, to the third opinion on TALK:List of South-East European Jews, and that opinion will be the same one given here if you went and asked for one on this topic. So why are you disagreeing with it now? Because this is a list of POLISH Jews and not GREEK Jews? This isn't a rhetorical question. I honestly want to know. You might be  thinking differently and in which case, I might be inclined to agree. Simply because you seem to disagree with every edit I make doesn't mean it will always be mutual, so try to explain to me why you think its necessary for ALL people of ANY Polish-Jewish descent to be on this list too.141.213.210.40 15:40, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Please show some respect and answer my questions. Otherwise, anyone reading this discussion will note it is one-sided. Why do you agree to not have Americans on a list of Greek Jews but refuse on a list of Polish Jews? The third opinion will be the same for all. There is a reason all lists of nationalities on wikipedia usually exclude Americans of ____ descent. 141.213.210.40 18:12, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Who belongs on a list such as this

message: Anybody want dates of birth and death by the names on this list? I'll just go with the majority on this one, but it looks really messy if its half and half. 141.213.210.40 16:03, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dates or no Dates?

message: I was asked to comment and it's really very simple... it all depends on what the (reliable, as a must) source says about the person... I'd imagine that yes, in some cases there will be people who were not strictly speaking Polish nationals who were described as Polish Jews (I mean the people themselves, not their parents). But, for example, a list of "Sephardic Jews" would include people from all kinds of countries 'round the world, so it could be similar here. (Same thing for list of Polish-Americans, although I don't see much of a conflict there at the moment) Using the examples above, I don't think there are sources that say either Alan Pakula or Geddy Lee are Polish Jews, but I'm prepared to be proved wrong.... Mad Jack 19:16, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Commenting

message: The purpose of a page lock is to instigate a discussion on the changes that have been made rather than just implementing the changes. There have been explanations made and reasonings provided (WP:CITE notably) for all the edits that have been made on my part and absolutely none for User:Runcorn's reverts. If discussion does not follow, then his reverts are in my mind "vandalism" even if they are coming from an admin in opposition to an anon. There is no bureacratic hierarchy that would make Runcorn's edits more "valid" than mine. I'm not going to create an account just for the purpose of re-implementing these edits because that would not make them any more permanent to the potentially chauvinistic edits of User:Mibelz, who has deemed me a "maniac anti-semitist" apparently for removing his random source-less contributions that suggest people like Joe Lieberman are Polish politicians. There are only two alternatives to this. Either Runcorn and Mibelz discuss these edits and come to a consensus with me or the article stays locked from IP contributions forever, which it per wikipedia mission statement can not. 141.213.211.81 10:32, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The removal of people who are clearly within the scope of the article, namely "people with Polish-Jewish heritage... people of Jewish faith, Ashkenazi culture and/or Jewish ancestry", with no source that they do not meet these criteria, is a violation of WP:Point, since it is being done to try to change the scope of the article against the wishes of every other editor.--20.138.246.89 11:22, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, you need evidence that these people are Polish Jews, not just Jewish Americans. You specifically need to prove that they are considered "Polish Jews" as a dominant view, otherwise its just some person's opinion. You mean the comments above this one and the ones on TALK:List of South-East European Jews are not included from "every other editor"? 141.213.211.81 11:37, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: First of all, there has never been a consensus on what this list should include because very few people care about the list enough to make that agreement in the first place. Secondly, if you all of a sudden agree with the procedure used on South East European Jews why do you still refuse to remove Pete Sampras? And thirdly, the third opinion provided for South-East European Jews will be the same one provided here...if you don't believe me, I'll ask for another but it just seems pointless in the long run since you'll ignore that one too. It is just an opinion but it will prove that there is in no way a "consesnsus" to make this a list of anyone in the universe who has had a Polish Jew as a family member. Finally, over half of the entries on of Polish politicians have no sources indicating they even had Polish Jewish heritage. 141.213.211.81 14:08, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: No Discussions or even Comments on Reverts

message: The following entries need sources which state the person in question is Polish and Jewish. 
*A) You cannot source wikipedia with wikipedia
*B) You cannot source a figure with a reference that says their parents/parent was Polish and Jewish, because according to the title and section header, these people need to be Polish Jewish politicians. If anyone wishes to change the title, then we can do that here. If anyone wishes to simply add a parent of Polish Jewish politician, that cannot be added under the Politicians section, but could be put in a different section. Read the comments by User:Jack O'Lantern above.
*C) If no sources can be found for any of the figures on this list with a  by 2007, the names will be removed per WP:V. 
141.213.212.81 22:49, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: Does anyone else agree that this article is absurd? It needs some serious "repair", less it create more problems, in a world full of problems. Dr. Dan 02:12, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course. When unverified entries remain on the list for eternity despite no suggestions of Polishness and/or Jewishness, and when controversial figures are added to the list regardless of extent of Judaism or prefered self-declaration, how can anyone expect this list not to be absurd? This could be changed if others did not fear rogue users not having a complete grasp of the English language stamping critics of this page as "anti-semitists." Make a controversial change to List of Poles, nobody cares - make a simple edit to List of Polish Jews, reverts galore. Interesting standard. 141.213.67.46 19:41, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What in Tarnation?

message: Does 20.138 care to explain what "POV edit" means? Or how WP:NPOV applies at all to the removal of month-old sourceless entries? Also, it would be nice for 20.138 to point out where in WP:V it is made obvious that unsourced elements can remain in an article indefinitely. As a matter of fact, it is written directly "Editors should provide a reliable source for material that is challenged or likely to be challenged, or it may be removed." 141.213.67.46 19:50, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "POV edit"

message: f.e. Klossowski, Lem! Kowalmistrz 15:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, all the ethnic and religious lists need to be referenced.  Many of them have been done already.  List of African American jurists needs some work.  All help in adding references will be gratefully received.  What does "f.e. Klossowski, Lem!" mean?  Both these gentlemen already have references.--20.138.246.89 16:14, 9 January 2007 (UTC)

text: Ditto.  logologist|Talk 20:14, 14 January 2007 (UTC)

text: We could try to use WP:BLP to support removal of any unreferenced inclusion here, perhaps?-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  20:21, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you mean the sentence "Any assertion in a biography of a living person that might be defamatory if untrue must be sourced."?  Is it defamatory to describe a person as Jewish?--Runcorn 20:39, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Or maybe it's defamatory to describe someone as Polish? — Kpalion(talk) 12:48, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

text: It is quite evident that there are some people who use the word 'Jew' as an insult. Therefore I believe that WP:BLP is applicable here to prevent such anti-semitic propaganda from being spread here.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  18:53, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: And look at "List of atheists" for an example of the alacrity with which inadequately referenced cases are immediately deleted.  logologist|Talk 07:40, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good example, I say.-- Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus | talk  13:55, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

text: The parallel is not exact.  If people make clearly nonsense additions to any list, it will be reverted.  For example, Lenin was rapidly removed from the List of Russian Jews.--20.138.246.89 16:02, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  We need sources for some of the Jews! 

message: LeszekB has possibly been confused by a misapprehension.  He may think that "Polish Jew" is to be interpreted in the same way as say "British Jew".  This is not the case, as Antidote realised when he inserted the phrase "people with Polish-Jewish heritage".  Polish Jews are those who were raised in the customs and traditions of Polish Judaism, and is an ethnic rather than geographical term.  Obviously, it includes people born in New York or Jerusalem to Polish parents.  The same issue arises with :Category:Spanish and Portuguese Jews.  Nobody would expect this to be restricted to Jews born in Spain or Portugal.  If LeszekB wishes to start a new list of Jews from Poland, he may do so and I would be happy to help him, but it is original (and incorrect) research to argue that a Polish Jew literally means someone born there.--R613vlu 12:55, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Your last sentence sums up the problem: there should be no research period. We're not researching what is a Polish Jew or a British Jew, but rather finding external references that can attribute both qualifications to a person. Those that don't qualify either "Polish" or "Jewish" don't belong on this list. But I'd like to point out that by your personal definition of Polish Jew, it would require that the person is "raised in the customs of traditions of Polish Judaism?" Since you believe this to be the criteria, why did you revert to include actress Scarlett Johansson and Adrien Brody? You have an external reference that qualifies that these two were "raised in the custom of and traditions of Polish Judaism"? You see there are problems with such personal interpretations of what it is to be a Polish Jew. This is why there should be no argument over inclusion, as there isn't one on the others in the series of Lists of Jews by Country. LeszekB 14:34, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion resolved 

message: I propose that this article should remain, as it has been since 11 April 2006 , "a list of people with Polish-Jewish heritage. Note that the list includes people of Jewish faith, Ashkenazi culture and/or Jewish ancestry."--Newport 12:50, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Try to concentrate this discussion under one heading instead of always making a new one. This makes it look like they're separate discussions. Anyway, you can't define Polish Jew for yourself. So there's no use in this. The initial scope was ambiguous as to what it even meant in the first place. It is open to interpretation of where to make a cut off, if ever. LeszekB 17:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

text: That's pretty much what this list WAS before the December/January additions, except it staved off a need to specify *which* Poland. Pre-WWII Poland? Post-WWII Poland? It would have to be a much more specific title. Renaming the list to that would just complicate it more IMO and the references would be harder to find because then you'd need to look up to make sure the person in question was born in the correct territory. But I suppose if a lot of people agree to some specific rename, it could happen. Fact of the matter is, as long as this article maintains that it is a list of *Polish Jews* it is going to have to be referenced as such and not referenced as whatever  anyone wants it to be referenced as. LeszekB 13:53, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Oh and keep the discussion centralized again please. LeszekB 13:55, 16 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty much already answered that question above. LeszekB 01:57, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

text: If we can't have a list of Jews from Poland because it is hard to define Poland, than by the same token we can't have a list of Polish Jews - it makes no sense.  I support Newport's position.  It is perfectly OK to take a vote on the scope of a list.  There is an excellent precedent on the List of British Jews, where a vote was taken to restrict it to people explicitly described as Jews whereas every other Jewish list includes people of Jewish descent.  There are also precedents for including people not born in the country in the article title; for example, John Charles Polanyi is on the List of Hungarian Jews although he was born in Germany.--R613vlu 23:54, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not that we can't have that renaming to List of Jews from Poland, it is that the renaming inherently includes people who might not be considered Polish by definition and so the purpose of the list is somewhat lost (unless we're very detailed in the renaming). After all, Poland at one point in time was more Ukrainian, German, and Belarussian than Polish. Having a List of Polish Jews prevents that from happening because it requires the people on the list have sources attributing them to be Polish. For more on why this makes sense, read the section above this one called Changing the scope of the list. List of Hungarian Jews doesn't suggest a person has to be born in Hungary to be Hungarian, but rather it takes the same approach all lists do except this one (relying on sources). If John Polanyi is described as Hungarian, that is why he is on the list. I don't understand why you believe lists in the same series should have different criteria for inclusions. That is equal to suggesting you should vote inclusion criteria on who to consider a "Polish composer" and who to consider a "Polish painter" when in reality all you should have to do is look up sources that the person is Polish and a composer or painter if doubt is present. For the fourth time now, editor's opinions are irrelevant on an encyclopedia. Only thing we can create on our own is what type of list to make, not who to put on that list after it is made. List of British Jews ended up culminating in a rename exactly like the one your propose, to which it was promptly returned to the same attributable and verifiable list I am trying to implement here.LeszekB 01:57, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

text: If you want List of people of Polish-Jewish heritage, then at this point we move this discussion to Wikipedia:Requested moves. List of British Jews already experienced your supported method of inclusion and it was returned to the original title spot, but I guess that precedent is ignored in this case. Also, Londonderry and County Derry are synonymous. "Polish Jew" and "person of Polish and Jewish heritage" isn't. By the way, your John Smiths example either didn't make any sense or went right above my head. LeszekB 20:51, 18 March 2007 (UTC)

text: That would work, yes, as long as no names remain on this list that can't be sourced as Polish. If this is what you meant, of course. Be careful with that hypen there though. I'm not sure when hyphenations are used and when they're not. You probably should look it up before any further action just for detail-oriented purposes. LeszekB 18:01, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal 

message: Because this discussion and its ramifications effects all articles, lists and categories relating primarily to the subject matter of defining Jews, the ramifications are very serious. See Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#"Jewish descent" versus Jew. 09:03, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That wasn't what the discussion was about.  Ther question was whether the list should include people of Polish descent born elsewhere.--Runcorn 09:08, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Runcorn: They are still cutomarily referred to as "Polish Jews" (in Jewish communities) even if they were born elsewhere, but it's not possible to make a "science" out of it. But there are other problems with the terminology and it's a far wider issue than you realize, as it also touches willy-nilly on Who is a Jew? issues. See the other examples and issues mentioned at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#"Jewish descent" versus Jew. Thank You, IZAK 09:44, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: IZAK is correct here... anecdotally, the president of the synagogue in Eau Claire, Wisconsin is a Polish Jew whose ancestors are from Belarus, but who was born in Chicago to a family who had been in Chicago for 3 generations...the woman who runs the giftshop was born in Los Angeles and raised, I believe, in Seattle, but is a Persian Jew.  As far as I'm aware, she's never been to Iran, to say nothing of "wasn't born there".  Categorizing people as "Polish Jews" simply on the meaningless basis of where they're born introduces error and, ultimately, serves no useful purpose.  "Jews from Poland" is a little more meaningful, until you take into account that the definition of what we know today as "Poland" has, over the past several centuries, had very disparate definitions.  Tomertalk 06:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Whether because of obstinance or poor reading comprehension, you have utterly failed to grasp the relevant point.  Tomertalk 12:53, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do not violate WP:NPA. I have grasped the point perfectly.--20.138.246.89 15:14, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What was it?   Clearly you did not grasp the point, since if you had you'd never have made your statement.  Thanks, Tomertalk 23:13, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

text: What does anything you have said have to do with what I wrote?  Tomertalk 17:33, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: This discussion needs wider input

message: See the discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism#"Jewish descent" versus Jew concerning the problems of using the term "Jewish descent" versus "Jew" as well as the related proposal. Thank you, IZAK 09:44, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Jewish descent" versus Jew

message: I reverted the previous edit because the Baczynski entry was oddly restored in addition to his mother after the replacement was made and it was blanketed under a revert. This was entirely inappropriate. Nobody has provided a thorough biographical sketch of Baczynski saying that he was Jewish. Without this, his addition to the list is revisionist in nature. LeszekB 15:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: People are doing this either out of some misplaced ethnic pride or anti-semetism, either way, not appropriate. --Tom 15:20, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Revert

message: Where?Xx236 (talk) 15:23, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Adolf Berman]] 

message: Ą little exaggeration.Xx236 (talk) 15:32, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scarlett Johansson 

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From Rescue of Jews by Poles during the Holocaust: Martin Gilbert. The Righteous: The Unsung Heroes of the Holocaust. Macmillan, 2003. p146.
From Polish Righteous among the Nations: Robert Cherry, Annamaria Orla-Bukowska, Rethinking Poles and Jews: Troubled Past, Brighter Future, Rowman & Littlefield, 2007, , Google Print, p.5
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*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080928105726/http://bible.tmtm.com/wiki/HART%2C_AARON_%28Jewish_Encyclopedia%29 to http://bible.tmtm.com/wiki/HART%2C_AARON_%28Jewish_Encyclopedia%29
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Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 15:20, 14 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Fellow Wikipedians,
Despite all the informative and less informative debates on this page, the list is itself, like much on this marvellous medium, heavily and shamefully gender-biased. A little more effort, please, and show us the women! --Po Mieczu (talk) 01:19, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gender bias 

message: Preserving here by providing this link; my rationale was: "WP:OR and / or uncided; other c/e". --K.e.coffman (talk) 17:15, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: OR? -  - GizzyCatBella🍁 22:27, 20 September 2020 (UTC)

text: The link to Paradisus Judaeorum was removed  because it's OR to connect the phrase to the Polish–Lithuanian Commonwealth, since that page does not mention it; the polity is not described as "Paradisus Judaeorum" (Paradise of the Jews). The lead of the Paradisus Judaeorum page does not discuss it solely in re: religious tolerance either. The lead states: "Some have read the noun phrase as a straightforward observation..." and "Others read the reference as openly antisemitic...", so its use here is controversial. The restoration of the link   introduced a further problem of WP:EASTEREGG, on top of the issues I described. --K.e.coffman (talk) 15:19, 22 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like a weird stretch. The term PJ is used to refer, often enough, to the Golden Age of Jews in Poland. Anyway, adding a reference is a good idea, I will do it shortly. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 03:05, 23 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sept 2020 edit