Talk:Emgann

message: Um, should this be in the "leftist terrorist organisations" category??
Hypno 20:39, 25 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't think so, i'll remove it, iirc their "terrorist" wing maybe the ARB, but i'm pretty sure that Emgann themselves aren't terrorist. FrancisTyers 02:12, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)

message: Reading through the various articles on the Breton independence movements, I note that there is quite an obvious bias in them. The French are more intolerant of self-determination in Brittany than the English in their neighbouring countries... and the articles on the various Scottish/Welsh/Cornish nationalists aren't merely written to set these people up as racists/terrorists or whatever. I think that I will stick POV notices on many of these articles --MacRusgail 12:28, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey man, this article is mainly my doing. I'm kind of surprised by the POV notice as I'm very pro-self-determination etc, and yes the French are much less tolerant than say the English government. "French is the only language of the republic" etc. I suppose it’s because I translated a lot of the content of the article from the Emgann article on the French wikipedia (which is even more biased I have to say). Do you have any specific complaints about the article? I'd love some help :) - FrancisTyers 13:00, 21 September 2005 (UTC)

text: Likewise: In July, I did some work on tidying the Célestin Lainé article in which I relied heavily on the fr page. Since then, it is true, there have been a few changes in the fr version in changing wording from terrorist to activist for example, but given the nature of the subject, it seems that rather harsh terms would sometimes be inevitable. I know the story only from Wikipedia. If it is possible for someone to point to errors of fact or of balance between facts, doing so would be helpful to everyone but vaguely casting doubt seems less so. :-) (RJP 14:05, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: A lot of the bias is in the French article, and some of it is in some excessively literal translations from French.  "Social-revolutionary" doesn't mean anything in English, and in French it just means leftist, noisy and anti-establishment.  Leeme see if I can tighten up the translation. --Diderot 17:01, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh thanks, I'm not that great at French :) Although I would have said that social revolutionary has a meaning in English. I would say it basically means someone, or an organisation who is both socialist and revolutionary (i.e. rejecting the ballot box). I wasn't aware that in French it had a different meaning. Any help with the translation would be great thanks :) - FrancisTyers 18:18, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I tend to think of "Social revolutionary" as being one of the non-Bolshevik factions in the Russian Revolution, but it could well have a slightly different meaning in French as some of these similar terms do. --MacRusgail 15:39, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well aye, if it was being used as a noun it would mean Social Revolutionary, although looking at the WP article, it would seem that SR is actually 'Socialist Revolutionary' not 'Social Revolutionary' as I'd previously thought. :) - FrancisTyers 15:51, 23 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political bias in Breton articles 

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message: No one has been found guilty for McDo's bombing in Quévert. The four men charged were cleared.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.12.235.125 (talk) 16:45, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shame!