Talk:Southern California supermarket strike of 2003–2004

message: :Asked Lucasbfr to review current article for copyright issues.  DirectRevelation 20:05, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds great now, thanks! -- lucasbfr talk 08:57, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright Issues

message: Significantly re-wrote article as follows:
* Broke into categories (imperfectly).
* Presented positions of employers (see POV above)
* Corrected spellings (mostly).
* All the links to other Wikipedia articles work.  (High standards, here.)
* Added labour tag and improved cat listing.
Several significant problems remain:
* Total lack of sources (except for UFCW web page).
* Clarification of parties involved.  (I know that the deli workers in SoCal are with the Restaurant union, but I'm not sure if it was called HERE or UNITE HERE at the time of the strike.  Also, the butchers are arranged in separate locals in the UFCW and I think they had some specific issues here.  Finally, the employERS have some sort of joint bargaining association that should probably be mentioned.)
DirectRevelation 19:48, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Renamed page to add year. Updated all active links.DirectRevelation (talk) 06:21, 17 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewrite by DirectRevelation

message: There is no detailed information here on what financial items actually caused the strike.  This would be very valuable information... though one side in this strike certainly would not care to have such information spread. Marionbutts (talk) 20:38, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No detailed information on causes

message: I'm surprised to see a page that so many editors have worked on and argued over has not one source. Beeblbrox (talk) 18:44, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It doesn't suprise me.  Why bother to find sources for a 4-year-old regional story?  Pointing out that there are no sources takes none of the work and is just as satisfying.RevelationDirect (talk) 03:55, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  sources 

message: This article needs more sources and more info in general! Shockingly there is no mention of the teamsters in this article or the solidarity of the teamsters. Neither is the paradoxical failure of UFCW leadership to picket distribution centers (teamsters have specific language in their contracts stating they HAVE THE RIGHT TO NOT CROSS ANY PICKET LINE)and accept the support of the majority of teamsters who were ready to de facto solidarity strike because they (distribution center workers) felt that the fate of the clerks was (and so obviously is!) tied to the clerks'. I've read numerous accounts about how if UFCW and Teamster leadership coordinated like they should have... they could have virtually shut down the whole SoCAl system. Why did UFCW leadership essentially sabotage the strike? Why did Teamster leadership eventually order the rank and file to not support UFCW? (many teamsters engaged in direct action in support of the clerks without authorization) These questions need to be asked and discussed in this article! Maybe UFCW was too disorganized or incompetent, or maybe they never wanted to win in the first place because they are class collaborationist and care only about dues and not working class emancipation! (not to sound too radical, but come on this is a labor article!)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.237.138.224 (talk) 09:29, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Teamsters' role! 

message: The sentence: "As Wal-Mart began aggressively opening stores in California, other supermarket chains claimed they were able to undercut local prices because they were non-union and the employees were all new hires. This put pressure on the existing unionized grocery stores to lower their operating costs."
"other supermarket chains" is open ended.  Vons?  Ralphs?  Albertsons?  Gelsons?  We need sources.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.185.239.23 (talk) 21:26, 1 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Causes 

message: After I did some copyedits I realized that the title doesn't match the text, and I've just learned that articles can be moved to fix that, but not by new editors like me. Can somebody take care of this?  Timmeredgar (talk) 15:54, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to Southern California supermarket strike of 2003–2004? 

message: “Causes” really makes wal mart out to be the only villian. From 1990-to the mid 2000’s Trader Joe’s and other non union “hip” stores began dominating a big sector of SoCal grocery. 
It wasn’t just big bad and cheap wal mart who burned the middle tier grocery company’s involved in the strike. The industry across all demographics began slighting labor around 2000. 99.91.152.46 (talk) 15:34, 22 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Causes is so vague