Talk:Gregorio Cortez

message: Just started this but I need a little more time.--Rockero 04:17, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there anyway you would agree to remove the word bandit from the article?  Also is there really a need to put this under the American outlaw category?  Gregorio Cortez's contributions to civil rights and American society can always be argued, and far too much of his story is mere legend, but I really doubt he was ever a criminal.  The word "bandit" just seems to be brought up far too many times in articles concerning "bad" mexican americans.  Great job on everything else though.Mosquito-001 00:25, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think a preferable option would be to write the social bandit article, which would explain how conquered people are marginalized legally, basically making any action on their part in their favor an illegal act, and that many social bandits become folk heroes as symbols of resistance. Then we could link to that article instead of Outlaw#bandit. How are you Mosquito?--Rockero 08:23, 3 September 2006 (UTC)

text: This article should mention the Bob Marley song.
Am I missing something?  I have read the "incident" section several times in two days and for the life of me I can not see why the sheriff needed to open fire.  Could not figure it out in the movie either.  Is it me, or is that section very unclear?  Jm546 (talk) 02:56, 30 May 2009 (UTC)
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message: In this section, I'm confused.  It says "in which Cortez was supposedly asked if he had recently acquired a caballo, or a stallion, and Cortez answered he had acquired a yegua, or a mare, a word which the deputy did not understand."  However, both Romaldo and Gregorio were there.  Whom did the deputy ask?  We should clarify.(Kirin-rex (talk) 00:45, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  the incident 

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message: Hello Wikipedia, I'm working on revamping this page for a Chicano Literature course at UBC. 
Gregorio Cortez Information Box: Add more detail in general. Me and my group have found a supposed picture of Cortez, we will add it if it is legal.
Background Ideas: Give names to parents, family, and any other key characters. Reference Valeriano, Gregorio's son, from "With His Pistol in His Hand" as he gives detail insight to the background of Cortez. More information needed on Gregorio rather than Tómas. 
Create another subheading: Background of Political and Social climate of the Border. With this section, we could discuss the landscape, both physically and societally, of life on the border. Could be very important to give readers insight of society that created Gregorio Cortez. Negative beliefs about both groups (Texas Rangers and Mexicans).
The Incident details: Need more description of the event. Take ideas from "With His Pistol in His Hand" and do further research. Also include newspaper reports at the time. ALSO DO NOT AMALGAMATE THE TWO INCIDENTS
Create Subheading: The Battle of Belmont. Include this important battle. Give information from newspapers, reporters, courts, and the officers themselves to give all point of views.
BREAK UP FLIGHT AND CAPTURE into 2 separate subheadings.
Cortez's Flight: Talk about tactics used by Cortez, the number of horses used by him, and the area that he covered. 
The Capture Of Gregorio Cortez: Talk about El Teco, the man who told the police of his whereabouts. Talk about different opinions and point of views about the capture. 
Add Subheading: Court Proceedings: Talk of money raised by people. Support of both Mexican and American citizens. Give examples of court reports, newspapers, and the problem of translation by the officers. 
Prison and Pardon: Talk about Cortez's time in prison; how long he spent there, where they moved him, and his experience/behaviour in the prison system. Also, discuss his pardoning. Give information about the Governer and the beliefs surrounding him.
Post-prison life and Death: Give more information about his efforts in the Mexican Revolution. Also, clarify the cause of death. Talk about how long it supposedly killed him, and do not say that he definitely DID die from poisoning.
Add Subheading: Legacy and Inspiration amongst the Border Mexican community: Talk of how his life inspired Mexicans and what important parts of his life transformed into El Corrido de Gregorio Cortez.
The Legend: Use "With His Pistol in His Hand" and information from the many verses of the border ballad to give insight into how the legend was created and transformed over time. Talk about him representing the average Mexican man, speak of the importance of the sorrel mare, and address the significance of him defending his right with his pistol in his hand.
In Song, Literature, and Film: Describe the songs, literature, and films in more detail. Talk about what they got right and what they got wrong. Talk about the important points each piece of art highlights and discuss how and why these works changed even in the slightest.
Add more references as we go. Pechodor13 and maymolina contributed to this revision plan.
OVERALL CLEAN UP THE PAGE, CLARIFY ERRORS, AND ADD MORE DETAIL TO THE STORY AND LEGEND OF GREGORIO CORTEZ.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chr66 (talk • contribs) 23:59, 30 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  SPAN 322 Plan of Revision 

message: History of the region
Valerio-Jiménez, O. S., & e-Duke Books Scholarly Collection 2012. (2013;2012;). River of hope: Forging identity and nation in the rio grande borderlands. Durham, NC: Duke University Press. (Chapter 4 and 6)
Alonzo, A. C. (1998). Tejano legacy: Rancheros and settlers in south texas, 1734-1900 (1st ed.). Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press.(Chapter 4). 
Levario, M. A., & Project Muse University Press eBooks. (2012). Militarizing the border: When mexicans became the enemy (1st ed.). College Station: Texas A&M University Press. (Chapter 1)
History of the Cortez's family
Alvear, C. L. (2006). Crossing country and county borders: The cortez family's movement north from northern mexico to south and central texas, 1851–1901
About the Movie
Sunness, S., & YOUNG, R. (1984). The ballad of gregorio cortez: AN INTERVIEW WITH ROBERT YOUNG. Cinéaste, 13(4), 39-40.
Sunness, S. (1984). the ballad of gregorio cortez. Cinéaste, 13(4), 39.
Elitzik, P. (1984). The ballad of gregorio cortez. New York: Cineaste Publishers, Inc. 
 — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pechodor13 (talk • contribs) 08:25, 6 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ideas of references SPAN 322 

message: Just a note to say that per a request from jbmurray I'll be posting some review comments in this section.  I'll review the article with an eye to what a GA reviewer would say, and if I go beyond what is needed for GA I'll try to make that clear in the comments. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 21:03, 19 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Review notes