Talk:Japanese calendar

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message: There are several redundant lists and tables maintained for Japanese holidays and festivals. There is a list at the Japanese festivals article as well as a table at the Holidays of Japan article. This article (Japanese calendar) contains a list and a table for Japanese national holidays, and a list for Japanese festivals. Other redundancies seem to exist in this article. —Tokek 17:01, 19 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lots of redundancy 

message: * I added the rokuyō since they're still a fairly important part of the Japanese calendar (and are mentioned on the Japanese-language version of the page).  They probably deserve their own article if someone has time.
* Removed the line about shiwasu being the only month name still in use, wasn't sure what that was supposed to mean ... none of these 12 months are in "official" use, but most Japanese people could probably name most of the months anyway.  I'm not sure why shiwasu was singled out.
CES 06:12, 7 Jul 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rokuy&#333; 

message: 24 Sekki is decided according to solar movement, and not fixed to day. (unsigned)
:The current version notes this.—Tokek 19:22, 7 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misc. 

message: I added a little more info about Rokuyou. My first edits, so hopefully I didn't screw anything up.
GaryKac 02:54, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Rokuyou 

message: So, the term for this Japanese calendar (as opposed to the Western calendar Seireki), is "Wareki", right?  I rarely see this term used, but "nengo" only refers to each imperial reign, does it not? Evan1975 01:34, 1 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wareki

message: These spellings were added to the article as alternate names of nanoka and kokonoka. However, these two look like mis-romanizations of previous non-phonetic spellings used before WWII. —Tokek 11:55, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: They are romanizations of なぬか and ここぬか, which are still widely used pronunciations, especially in Western Japan. There are also listed as independent entries in kokugo dictionaries without notes to the effect that they are dialect. Given they that are common in conversation, they should remain in this article. What a "non-phonetic spelling" is, I have no idea; care to explain? Best regards, Jim_Lockhart 13:12, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have never heard of these pronounciations in Kanto or Kansai regions, however they do appear in dictionaries. Don't know why I didn't catch this fact before. Non-phonetic spelling: I was referring to pre-WWII historical kana usage. As hepburn is meant to be phonetic, if these were romanized directly, it would be an error.—Tokek 19:46, 4 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nanuka, kokonuka 

message: Please help resolve the issue raised in Talk:Heisei#Future Japanese dates. `'mikka (t) 15:26, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Future Japanese dates

message: Is there anything on the great 1966 Fire Horse superstition (I can't find anything)?  If so, it should be linked from here; if not, something should be added here... AnonMoos 17:36, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: P.S. See http://home.uchicago.edu/~car/firehorse.pdf , http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=1052758&dopt=Abstract ,  etc. AnonMoos 17:46, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fire horse

message: This is a nice article, but I'm amazed there's no article on the traditional Japanese calendar. Admittedly, most or all of the content is already on Wikipedia, but it's split between Chinese calendar, Lunisolar calendar, and nengo, and doesn't exist in any single coherent article. LordAmeth 19:10, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Traditional calendar

message: I have a book (Japanese and English) about Japanese culture and it talks about the traditional month names, but its translations contradict what's being mentioned here.  For example, the translation for minazuki (水無月) is listed as "no water month", and mentions nothing about the ateji meeting cited in the article.  If there is a different etymology, the translator may simply have missed it, but what concerns me is that this Wikipedia article doesn't cite sources of the etymology listed here.  So at the moment, I am inclined to side with the book, unless someone can back up what's in the article with a good citation.  --Ph0kin (talk) 16:47, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, you've done your homework.  Can't argue with that.  No complaints from me then. :) --Ph0kin (talk) 05:44, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need verification of traditional month names 

message: I'm confused, in the 2nd month of the lunar calendar it says kisaragi/kinusaragi means "change clothes", but change to what? Are they putting on warmer clothes because it's a cold Winter or are they starting to wear Spring clothes? - Rolen47 (talk) 15:05, 29 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The article Kisaragi has a bit more explanation. If you feel it would be helpful to add more explanation to Japanese calendar, please feel free. Fg2 (talk) 15:20, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

text: The spring equinox was in the 2nd month of the lunar calendar, so if it has anything to do with clothes, presumably they are starting to wear spring clothes--Stone-turner (talk) 11:54, 30 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  kisaragi/kinusaragi means "change clothes"? 

message: the correct spelling of the the word moon is "getsu" not "gatsu" please check your source.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.64.104.4 (talk) 22:52, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Both moon and month have the same character 月 which when used by itself is normally read "tsuki," the "kunyomi." But in many (not all) combinations it uses some Chinese reading (onyomi). Like very many characters, it has more than one onyomi, but which one you use depends on the word it is in--you cannot change back and forth freely. For 月  onyomi are getsu, gatsu, gachi, and gochi.  The standard names of the months all use -gatsu. "Ichigatsu", etc. It doesn't matter how common getsu is, Ichigetsu, Nigetsu, etc. are wrong. But in other combinations that use the Chinese reading, getsu is normal, as 今月 kongetsu (this month), 月給 gekkyuu, monthly salary. I don't know of any use of gochi, and gachi is extremely rare.Stone-turner (talk) 03:54, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Getsu 

message: This section doesn't give any sources. In this case this is a problem, because it contradicts most online sources that turned up during my research on the subject. The paragraph gives a brief summary on how to determine, which day of the month is which rokuyô-day as follows: The first of January is senshô, the second of February is tomobiki and so on. This is IMO apparently wrong, for two reason: Firstly, according to this system the 1st of April will always be butsumetsu (the unlucky day). However, the 1st April (according to the section right below rokuyô) states, that April 1st is THE most important day in the japanese calendar. Secondly, if the aforementioned logic error doesn't convince you, there are also known alternative ways to determine which day of rokuyô any given day is, through a mathematical equation or purely by extrapolating from a day of which the rokuyô-day-type is known, by counting. Both do not and cannot correlate with the presented system. So an expert on the topic should either revise the paragraph according to his/her expertise or find a reliable source. (As I also may, of course, be horribly wrong, in which case I apologize to the person who wrote the paragraph in the first place.)  -- Xander.v.D. (talk) 23:14, 27 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Note that what the article says is Lunisolar January 1 (i.e. 旧暦１月１日）, is senshô, etc. It is determined on the basis of the "old" calendar, not the current calendar. So the lunisolar "April 1" is not the April 1 of the next section, which is of course the Gregorian calendar.  Rokuryô was not a standard divination method and did not become popular in Japan until after the introduction of the Gregorian calendar, so the connection with the calendar is hidden. You said "there are also known alternative ways to determine which day of rokuyô any given day is, through a mathematical equation." Does this mean a given day in the Gregorian calendar? What is this mathematical formula? Stone-turner (talk) 03:40, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rokuyô again 

message: How many days a month last? --5.170.71.59 (talk) 23:12, 1 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  How many days a month last? 

message: :There are thirteen entries in the "External links". Three seems to be an acceptable number and of course, everyone has their favorite to add for four. The problem is that none is needed for article promotion. 
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