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Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/List of LGBT couples

message: If adding commentary to this page, please do it in a separate section, do not breakup my comments here.
First a tally of the !votes:
* Delete
#David Fuchs (9 edits) <nominator> 
#Koweja (3 edits)
#Neil (8 edits) <first closer> <contributor>
#23skidoo (2 edits)
#Josquius  
#Nick Dowling  
#Bearian'sBooties  
#Queerudite (3 edits)
#DGG  
#Edison (4 edits) 
#Lasalle202 (5 edits) 
* Keep
#MCB  
#Doug  
#The Transhumanist (4 edits) 
#Capitalistroadster (2 edits)
#Terraxos (3 edits)
#Fireplace (2 edits) 
#Casliber (2 edits)
#Allstarecho (3 edits)
#Benjiboi (11 edits) <contributor>
#Dev920  
#SatyrTN <contributor>
#Torc2 (11 edits)
#The Librarian (6 edits) <contributor>
* Discounted
#Jerry (4 non-participatory edits)
#SineBot (3 non-participatory edits) 
#Mandsford (2 edits) (comment objecting to delrev/relist)
  
The "keeps" argued that the list was sourced and referenced (or that this is in progress), met WP:V, WP:RS, and WP:N.  They said that the WP:NOT#DIR argument did not apply because the list only contained notable couples, and items on the list aren't "loosely associated".  Mentions were made as to the notability of the list itself, in the context of today's political events.  They said that it was consistent with WP:LIST and WP:Notability (people)#Lists of people.  They said that WP:BLP issues should be dealt with at editor discretion, not by deleting the list itself.  They said they support the list having strict inclusion criteria and sourcing requirements, and indicated that this would be handled by editors.
The deletes called the list Listcruft.  They said that is was potentially slanderous as there are no sources, and cautioned that WP:BLP was an ongoing concern for this kind of list. They cited WP:NOT#DIR, and said that LGBT couples has no article.  They said the scope of the list was too broad to ever be complete.  Some said it was difficult to manage the list objectively.  One said it was redundant to List of LGBT people.  One said the list was trivia.  One said "couple" was too difficult to define.
Many of the concerns raised by the deletes could potentially be handled by editors establishing and maintaining strict criteria for the list.  This and the strength of argument by the keeps and the division of the participants leads me to determine this as a close call between "no consensus" and "keep".  Since both are keep closures, and WP:Deletion states that benefit of the doubt goes to keep, I have decided accordingly. JERRY talk contribs 02:11, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Closing administrator's determination rationale
File talk:Tostal quarter stamp.gif

message: This stamp has a value of One shilling and four pence.  Therefore, the name of the page cannot be considered correct.  How about An_Tostal_1s_4d
In the old £.s.d. currency, amounts written in shillings and pence (but without pounds) were typically written with a slash between the shillings and pence.  Amounts of full shillings and no pence used a dash in place of zero for the pence amount.  In the body of printed text, a slash is acceptable.  On signs, and in display advertising the slash was usually wedge-shaped, extending above but not below the figures.  The stamp illustrates this form.  Note also the slightly smaller size of the pence figure.
Another way of writing this amount is:  1s. 4d.  The abbreviations come from Latin "solidus" and "denarius".
Spoken aloud, the value would be "one and four" or "one and fourpence".  Occasionally, a very fastidious persion might be heard saying "one shilling and fourpence".
Perhaps someone confused the value with a farthing, one-quarter of a penny.  If that had been the case, the stamp's value would have been written "¼p" (or perhaps "¼d").
I suggest this image, and the related page be renamed.
By the way, An Tostal was an exhibition, probably modeled after the Festival of Britain. "An" means "The" in the Irish language.  My opinion is that the article is probably an integral part of the name.
Monomoit (talk) 02:24, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Page name is incorrect
Talk:Shomer Shabbat

message: Hi. I'll try to get this ready for a DYK. It'd be great to get help with images, info or a section on Israel, and other info (e.g., relation between eruv and shomer shabbos neighborhood). Thanks. HG | Talk 02:33, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Help wanted

message: This article refers to a National Survey but never says where.  It does refer to a US Vice President candidate - is this article just about activities the USA?  It does not match the history and current day activities of other countries, or on other continents.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cyberman The Tory (talk • contribs) 06:59, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geography 

message: The observant Jew does not cook, spend money, write, bowl (especially not in league play), operate electrical devices, or do other activities prohibited on Shabbat.
This, while true as far as I know, is almost certainly a reference to The Big Lebowski, and it seems a bit inappropriate for the Wikipedia. 184.189.220.19 (talk) 10:33, 8 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Why cant Wikipedia be humorous while maintaining factual accuracy? Redface1 (talk) 21:38, 11 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bowling? 
Talk:Dundee (disambiguation)

message: Please add these back when articles are present or anticipated:
=== Red-linked entries with no other inbound links===
* Dundee Cake, a type of fruitcake
** Added this back as there is an article. Dunarc (talk) 22:34, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removals and reasons 

message: * Dundee Cake, a type of fruitcake
** Added this back as there is an article. Dunarc (talk) 22:34, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red-linked entries with no other inbound links

message: Would it be worth adding the Dundee Stars in the sports section, as they are sometimes spoken of as simply Dundee in match scores? Dunarc (talk) 22:43, 27 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dundee Stars
Wikipedia talk:Suspected sock puppets/Thewiseeye3400

message: Yeah I do have both accounts. I made user:orange berries because I was mad at wikipedia editors for the speddy deltion of Garden Fresh Gourmet's page. This was a clearly significnt page. So I made Orange berries to let out so steam.Thewiseeye3400 (talk) 02:36, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
Talk:List of Major League Baseball annual saves leaders

message: Why are there flags next to all of the players' names? All of the statistics are from Amerian baseball leagues. Chubbles (talk) 22:51, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, flags make no sense Tiki2099 (talk) 21:19, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: And so they are removed. The Blade of the Northern Lights  (話して下さい) 22:45, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Flags

message: Is there really a reliable source for saves going back to 1876? I know they're listed on Baseball Reference, but the save has only existed as a semi-official stat since 1960, and comprehensive box scores for early seasons aren't generally available. Thunderbunny (talk) 07:59, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Saves From Before 1960
Talk:Richard Eyer

message: This article has been revised as part of a large-scale clean-up project of multiple article copyright infringement. (See the investigation subpage) Earlier text must not be restored, unless it can be verified to be free of infringement. For legal reasons, Wikipedia cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or printed material; such additions must be deleted. Contributors may use sources as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously. Signed,The4lines |||| (Talk) (Contributions) 17:03, 29 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible copyright problem
Talk:Fort Manoel

message: Article reassessed and graded as start class. --dashiellx (talk) 19:34, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject Military history/Assessment/Tag & Assess 2008 
Template talk:Villas in Roman Britain

message: I moved it to a template, and I think it would be worthy as a template. STYROFOAM☭1994TALK 03:09, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Notes

message: I removed Alfred's Castle from this template. Alfred's Castle is a small Iron Age hill fort, and although it apparently had a "Romano-British farmhouse" built within it, there doesn't seem to be much known about it, and certainly the page says nothing more about it. It seemed a bit out of place compared to the other rich sites on this template, but feel free to put it back if anyone feels strongly about it. Pasicles (talk) 18:30, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed a link
Template talk:Major towns of Roman Britain

message: Can Bannaventa really be called a major town? Surely it was just a relay station like dozens of others. What criteria is being used to determine what towns are major or not? G-Man ? 03:13, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Bannaventa?

message: As there appears to be no obvious criteria being used here as to what constitutes a major town. Shouldn't this be renamed 'Towns of Roman Britain' and we can throw in every minor waystation? G-Man ? 01:52, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Possible rename

message: As you may know, this template was vandalized with a large photograph of a penis, and the vandalism undone twenty minutes later, on March 27. Today, almost three days later, I loaded the page Isca Dumnoniorum, which uses this template, and saw the image there. I'm not complaining that I was personally offended, but something needs to be done about the way vandalism can appear three days after it is removed. 68.9.94.136 (talk) 18:27, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism
Talk:Chula Vista Bayfront

message: Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: official sources. Copied or closely paraphrased material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, and according to fair use may copy sentences and phrases, provided they are included in quotation marks and referenced properly. The material may also be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Therefore such paraphrased portions must provide their source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you.  Moonriddengirl (talk) 14:14, 11 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 
Talk:Cornelis Ketel

message: Okay boys and girls, here is this week's challenge.  Is this picture of Christopher Hatton (right) the same as NPG 2162?  There is no inscription on the NPG image, which they call a 17th century copy (but they do suggest a date of 1589).  Is the inscription from before cleaning or after? Or are there two versions?  Is the inscription date correct? I have seen this picture described as "probably" after Cornelis Ketel c. 1585 (unlikely for Ketel), and as c. 1581.  I'm going to keep digging. 
:PS I have added this to the commons: :Image:Edward Gill 1578 attr Cornelis Ketel.jpg 
- PKM (talk) 05:34, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems there is only one picture.  The version with the inscription is credited to the NPG in the source of our scan (1972) and the same image is in Strong, Gloriana (he dates it c. 1585). - PKM (talk) 07:56, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

text: FYI, under the assumption that this is identical to NPG 2162, I've marked it superceded by :File:Sir Christopher Hatton from NPG (2).jpg, which is a high resolution photo of NPG 2162. If I'm wrong feel free to remove it. Dcoetzee 02:22, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Hatton

message: James 1897 says Ketel lived with Jean de la Hame, glass-painter to the King, when in Paris. So perhaps his introduction to the French court was a recommendation by one of the Crabeths or their circle?  I wonder what James's source for this statement is.  In any case, I have added the snippet to the article. - PKM (talk) 18:54, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "...back to Paris [ ] with the King's stained-glassmaker, M. Jean de la Hame, from whom he had his own atelier, painting History subjects; [ ] while at Paris, from the King a strict ordinance was promulgated, that all aliens, that [ ] had  lived there two years and were under the rule of the King of Spain, must [ ], and [ ] many were fleeing to the Netherlands, [ ] beeldenstorm, Religion, [ ], so that Ketel [ ] abide there; [ ] he with some emigrants from Paris [ ], came to Holland, with the intention of travelling once more [ ] to France or Italy; [ ] journey would not [ ], so that he [ ] six years remained in his birthplace, Gouda [ ], sweet-singing Sirens [ ] making the best of a few [ ]. [ ] because of the war [ ] not many panel-paintings, he removed in 1573 to England, and came to London..."
Re-edit the above, folks, and fill in the blanks. --Wetman (talk) 20:58, 3 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow. - PKM (talk) 21:03, 3 February 2008 (UTC)

text: beeldenstorm (summer 1566) added. Should have its own article really. Were many fleeing "to" or "from" the Netherlands: "om datter veel gevluchte uyt Nederlandt waren"?  Johnbod (talk) 13:49, 5 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Paris: piecing together the puzzle
Talk:20-yard shuttle

message: whats a real good time for this drill???
good?
between 4.3 to 4.0
even better is outstanding, and it's been done very many times.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.170.91.60 (talk) 00:05, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The explanation says:
"They start in the middle of a 10 yard distance with one hand touching the ground. The athlete then pushes off their dominant leg in the opposite direction for 5 yards"
Since there's no indication of which way the athlete is facing at the beginning, it's not clear what "the opposite direction" is. Assume there are cones on either end, is the athlete facing one cone, but then runs toward the other? This is what the explanation seems to suggest. Does the athlete turn around to run in that "opposite direction," or does the athlete run backwards? Alternatively, the athlete could be in the middle looking forward with the cones to his left and right. The athlete would then push off to the left or right depending on which leg is dominant and run facing forwards. 
The explanation probably makes a great deal of sense to someone who has seen this done, but to someone who hasn't (me), it's not clear what exactly happens. Ileanadu (talk) 17:33, 15 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Backwards? 

message: The Jason Faulkner claim was just added.  While there is a youtube clip, linked to Facebook and record setter.com, all of this seems obviously self sourced.  The Facebook claims to link to CBS LA, which if they chose to cover this might be a reliable source, but there is no evidence they actually picked up the story, or what the validity to the claim of a record actually is.  That said, seeing a big guy do this is impressive, which is probably why he is self promoting this.  I haven't reverted yet, but this looks like advertising.  Somebody please come up with a reliable source to verify if this is worthy of mention here. Trackinfo (talk) 06:17, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jason Faulkner
Talk:Corey

message: Why is Corey Worthington on this list?  Can someone please delete it unless there is a real entry for him somewhere. Clofts (talk) 03:18, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, he doesn't have his own page, so he doesn't get his own listing...BALEETED! Comradeash (talk) 12:33, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Redlinks

message: Corey 86.18.178.185 (talk) 19:07, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corey
Talk:Jeanne Stark-Iochmans

message: I see 
* https://www.berkeleyside.com/2020/10/20/remembering-pianist-jeanne-stark-whose-artistry-was-informed-by-a-life-fully-lived
* https://www.newsbreak.com/california/berkeley/news/2086194461002/remembering-pianist-jeanne-stark-whose-artistry-was-informed-by-a-life-fully-lived seems dependent on the previous
Is this reliable enough to change this article to the past tense, etc.? How do you do death of a person with a page? thanks Simon Grant (talk) 09:40, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death
Category talk:Yiddish-language singers

message: Dear friends! Should links to http://digital.library.upenn.edu/webbin/freedman/ be added ?
# Alberstein, Chava
# Burstein, Peysekhke
# Burstein, Mike
# Fisher, Dovid (Dudu)
# Fuld, Leo
# Hendel, Nekhama
# Kahan, Bente
# Troyke, Karsten
# Lux, Lillian
# etc.
Best regards
‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏T‏·‏m‏:‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 03:29, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  links to the Freedman Catalog
Talk:John McIntyre (publisher)

message: Just made this page. A lotta people like and read John, so we owe it to him to give him a page.
--Daveroo69 03:57, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Calling him a blogger in the title of the article no longer seems appropriate. RCP isn't best described as a blog. I think he would best be described in the disambiguating article title as a journalism executive, a publisher, or even very narrowly as (co-founder, RealClearPolitics). Leslie Graves (talk) 14:32, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Change title of article?
Talk:1994 San Diego Chargers season

message: While its true san diegos sports teams havent won a championship, Ive never heard of any curse. Theres no reference for the claim Charger player deaths have something to do with that and its in such poor taste Im just going to delete it right now. Batvette (talk) 11:19, 23 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Curse of san diego sports teams
Talk:Jumeirah Al Khor

message: It is important to note that two pages, Jumeirah Al Khor Residence and Jumeirah Al Khor Hotel, have been merged into this article as as result of a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Dubai#Dubai skyscrapers: merger proposals. The associated talk pages were redirected to this talk page, as there was no content aside from project banners.  Leitmanp (talk | contributions) 03:42, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge results
Talk:Australian Aboriginal fibrecraft

message: This article mentions "sand figs". I can't find any reference in external sources to a plant of this name, could sandpaper fig be the meaning intended? If so, which species? -- The Anome (talk) 15:01, 23 December 2014 (UTC)
Talk:Goaltending (basketball)

message: "once the shot is taken, the period will be over"  I think they mean:  once the shot is taken the period is not over until the completion of the shot.
"FIBA rules allow a defender to block any shot that is over the rim and the ball is on its upward flight."  should be: ...over the rim when the ball...
Chris2crawford (talk) 00:51, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: confusing

message: Thank you .
But there is still confusion between goaltending and basket interference, in both articles (Goaltending and Basket interference).
But they both cite " NBA Official Rules (2009-2010) Rule 11, Section I" http://i.cdn.turner.com/nba/nba/.element/pdf/2.0/sect/officiating/Official_NBA_Rule_Rook_09-10.pdf as source  , rule 11 is named "RULE NO. 11—BASKET INTERFERENCE—GOALTENDING". no differences between goaltending and basket interference is stated, even more "goaltending" and "basket interference" are not even used in rule text (beside the rule title itslelf), so one can not say what is about "goaltending" and what about "basket interference" (or even if they were the same at all). 
Furthermore confusing, Goaltending article tell about  basket interference, and not just an allusion. 
Thank you to everyone would help unravel this muddle. --5.170.14.10 (talk) 20:17, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but the NCAA rulebook does clearly distinguishing between goaltending and basket interference, defining each in essentially the same terms in which they are defined in the Wikipedia articles. And nothing in the NBA rulebook contradicts the understanding of those fouls expressed in the two Wikipedia article and in the NCAA rulebook. Jbening (talk) 23:12, 29 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusion between goaltending and basket interference
Category talk:1988 musicals

message: This page has an erroneous entry. High Society (Musical) is a 1998 musical, not a 1988 Musical.70.18.63.191 (talk) 04:02, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Thanks. • Anakin (contribs • complaints) 17:46, 28 January 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Cloudland Canyon State Park

message: The article now meets Start-class criteria. With some work we can make it even better. Cheers, Majoreditor (talk) 15:24, 11 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Upgrading this article to Start Class

message: The article now meets C-class criteria. With some work we can eventually get this to GA-class. Majoreditor (talk) 02:18, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Upgrading this article to C Class

message: Does anyone have suggestions on how to improve this article? I'd like to nudge it toward GA status. Cheers, Majoreditor (talk) 01:34, 17 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Can this be a Good Article?

message: Does anyone know the name of the ancient ocean which covered Cloudland Canyon and other areas of the southeastern portion of the United States 200+ million years ago? Majoreditor (talk) 17:55, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: What is the name of the ancient ocean which covered Cloudland Canyon 200 million+ years ago?
Template talk:Protected areas of Georgia (U.S. state)

message: Even though there isn't any articles for Public Fishing Areas in Georgia, I'm surprised they aren't listed in the template, especially when other redlinked articles are in the template.
Public Fishing Areas are under the Wildlife Resource Division of the Georgia Department of Natural Resources. {https://georgiawildlife.com/allpfas}
also, Wildlife Management Areas are under the Wildlife Resource Division... {https://georgiawildlife.com/allwmas}
The https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry,_Georgia#Go_Fish_Education_Center should be its own article as it is a Education Center of the Wildlife Resource Division {https://georgiawildlife.com/alleducationcenters}
I have photos of the Paradise Public Fishing Area here {https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Paradise_Public_Fishing_Area}
I know I could add these redlinks myself but I didn't want anyone to come behind me and undo the work without realizing what was missing.  --Mjrmtg (talk) 19:18, 12 August 2018 (UTC)