Talk:Varicocele

message: * There seems to be a duplicate article at Varicoscele, just with a slightly different spelling. They each seem to have some points that the other doesn't, so it looks like they should be merged.
* YES, merge. I'll try to do it. --AVM 19:17, 22 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  About merging with [[Varicoscele]] 

message: Might there have been a genetic benefit for a human males who lived in a cold weather climate to have a varicocele with respect to keeping the testis warm in that cold enviroment?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.186.75.163 (talk) 01:16, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Benefit of having a varicocele...? 

message: It may be interesting for others to know that if I cause myself to shiver (usually can be achieved   by thought or by stimulating my side lightly with my fingers, rotating my shoulders etc) and direct the shiver into my testis it stimulates them causing the vericocele to go away slightly, if you do it repeatedly it seems to help. Also by using muscular contraction I am able to force the veins to drain of blood, the muscles used are related but not exactly the same as trying to stop urinating. I doubt there's any study or reference to this, but just try it and see if it helps. 71.112.208.13 (talk) 02:05, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  temporary relief 

message: Two studies using micronized purified flavonoid fractions (MPFF) show promising results in treating varicocele pain. Significant reductions in varicocele pain were observed after treatment with MPFF's. This should be mentioned in the article.
Study 1
http://content.karger.com/produktedb/produkte.asp?typ=fulltext&file=UIN2005074002173
Study 2
http://www.springerlink.com/content/x8221v633p2wn461/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.163.158.244 (talk) 23:19, 6 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Micronized Purified Flavonoid Fraction 

message: If surgery is required because of infertility or testicular atrophy, the outlook is usually excellent.
It then goes onto say...
Whether or not a varicocele causes infertility is a contentious issue. Recent research suggests that there may be no improvement in fertility after treating a varicocele with surgery; indeed, the research implies that there may not even be a reliable causal link between the presence of a varicocele and infertility in males.[8]
Slight contradiction, could studys be cited and the pros and cons of these studies be given?
These sections should be merged in reality
Fishyghost (talk) 18:46, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction?! 

message: Please discuss at Talk:Benign_prostatic_hyperplasia#Gat_and_Goren  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Taylornate (talk • contribs) 20:59, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Continues to be added here . Have trimmed again. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 21:22, 6 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gat and Goren 

message: There is a reference to http://www.varicocelehealing.com/ which is a web site containing no information but offering to sell information. This reference should be removed as it does not support the associated claim and is merely advertising a product.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.250.213.16 (talk) 01:06, 23 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: --BallenaBlanca (talk) 07:32, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad reference 

message: As these are risk factors or causes they occur as a subheading of cause. Therefore restored here Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 23:05, 16 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Lifestyle

message: Ref does not even mention varicocele, nor does it state the follow is a cause "posture, therapeutic underwear," Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 01:35, 9 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Ref does not support

message: User:Joltzipper about this, we need to make it clear that varicocele is not the same as infertility; v apparently can infertility but not always.  If you disagree that we need to explain this, please say why. Thanks. Jytdog (talk) 17:36, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Jytdog I think it is obvious that varicocele is not infertility, but the leading cause from the intro Joltzipper (talk) 17:41, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for coming to talk.  No need to ping me, as this is on my watchlist. As I understand in more than half the cases of male infertility the cause is not clear.  Varicocele is present in about 35% of cases (different than "causing" 35%) but even this is not "most"....  Jytdog (talk) 18:40, 20 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plain english 

message: Jytdog: I see your reversion of my edit. The removed material concerned risk factors for infertility, not for the subject of the article, varicocele:
 Tobacco smoking and mutations in the gene expressing glutathione S-transferase Mu 1 both put men at risk for infertility; these factors may also exacerbate the risk that varicocele will affect fertility.
Do you disagree with my assessment, and would you like to revert your reversion if you do agree?--Quisqualis (talk) 02:28, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I do disagree.  The source is talking about factors that put men with varicocele at risk for infertility, and they identify smoking as the main preventable one.  What is not clear? Jytdog (talk) 03:32, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I take issue with your reasoning. The statement in question appears in the section "Cause" in the article "Varicocele". The statement might find a home in another section, but not in this one. People might conclude that smoking causes varicocele. Perhaps the statement could be moved to an article about male infertility.--Quisqualis (talk) 03:46, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I will move it to the pathophysiology section.  Please review this talk page and the history of the article.  Other people have come here obsessed with various details and this was demanded by someone we have now indefinitely blocked for being overly obsessed with having this article be Exactly Like They Wanted It.  What is it with penises and testicles in WP? Jytdog (talk) 03:51, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent reversion of my edit 

message: The last paragraph of this article, added in Dec. 2018, seems to be something of an advertisement. It was added by the account "Drparagshah2000", which has no other contributions. It links to a website which appears to belong to Dr. Shah (the apparent editor), offering the surgery described, and the only citation is to a paper also by Dr. Shah. I would encourage an editor familiar with this area of medicine to determine whether the described surgery deserves mention in the article, and if so to describe it more neutrally. User:Glenn Willen (Talk) 19:26, 10 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final paragraph on "CDVL" 

message: Needs clarity more about symptoms of varicocele.  Sometimes a person experience sever pain in the veins of their penus. Is that really a symptom of Varicocele. Furthermore, enlargement of left testes surely clarifies us that we have a varicocle. If yes, I have those symptoms.  Needs guidelines please.  Thanks 2A03:2880:FF:12:0:0:FACE:B00C (talk) 04:47, 27 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Varicocele 

message: I'm not an expert in this medical field, but I do know my left from my right. In the photograph on the viewer's left, the testicle owner's *right* testicle (or the area above it) is circled, and in the photograph on the viewer's right the *left* testicle is circled. Whoever labelled this in both the English and French Wikipedia entries doesn't know their left testicle from their right. --Craig (t|c) 00:02, 11 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Left or right?