Talk:Polish orthography

message: Two issues:
Does the i palatalize the /p/?
If so, does the i disappear from pronunciation as in dnia or does one hear it?
--Iopq 10:22, 6 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. -Iopq 10:17, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Wait, what about wiem? Doesn't that get pronounced /vʲi̯ɛm/? In that case, how can you tell? Is it dependent on which consonant or is it just just arbitrary and has to be memorized? -Iopq 15:30, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To my knowledge, both  and  should have the same form of palatization in Polish: they are both labial obstruents. Besides that, I think that there is sufficient variation across region and across style that I wouldn't be choosing between these forms of pies. The pronounciations  and  are the extremes, but they are possible.Also, if you want to show the phonemic word (since you have used slashes), it should be  only. The letter i basically stands for the phonemic palatization of the preceding consonant (here ) when a non-palatizing vowel (here ) follows.--Jeziorko (talk) 16:54, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of words with i 

message: Perhaps, if someone knows, a section, or link on how to produce these symbols in LaTeX would be useful. Thehalfone 11:28, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  LaTeX 

message: There is a comment that rż denotes [rʐ] (r+ż). I think a comment that rz (which is usually a single sound [ʐ] (or [ʂ])) can sometimes denote [rz] (r+z); e.g. zmarznie [ˈzmarzɲɛ] 'she/he will get chilled'.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jeziorko (talk • contribs) 21:38, 12 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This seems to be already mentioned in the article.--Kotniski (talk) 07:39, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My bad, I didn't check through. Nevertheless, the comment about rż, I think, should go lower, with the one about rz.--Jeziorko (talk) 16:40, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The clusters rz and rż 

message: Somewhere between the alphabet and the phonology articles there were more allophones of the nasals. Pronunciations like [ɛɯ̯̃]Where did those go? -iopq (talk) 20:30, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: See Polish phonology#The vowel system. If you think there's more to add, please add.--Kotniski (talk) 09:28, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The pronunciation of the nasals somehow got lost 

message: The table in this section seems incorrect. The pronunciation of 'Mania' (name) and 'mania' (noun) is the same. There is no difference. I am native speaker of Polish and I have never met any difference both in colloquial and official speech. Neither in theater nor in pubs :-) Xpicto (talk) 10:33, 13 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other issues with i and j 

message: The Polish alphabet article is redundant and links to this article for the details of the alphabet in many instances. I propose we merge them. – anlztrk (talk) 08:53, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's OK to merge them. Like Czech alphabet and Czech orthography, which have already been merged. Burzuchius (talk) 10:04, 21 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion the separate article on Polish alphabet is needed as many readers search for this particular information. The article needs corrections in line with the editors note on the top of it. The correction has already started and can be applied in any further improvement works. All suport are warmly welcome. JacekVR (talk) 11:55, 23 December 2022 (UTC)

text: I support the merger proposal. Is this discussion supporting or opposing, if it is in support, I’ll start merging them. 2001:BB6:B83E:B800:BCCF:EB6A:4124:AC33 (talk) 16:59, 8 January 2023 (UTC)

text: Oppose per JacekVR. Great Mercian (talk) 00:41, 4 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

message: The Spelling rules section states that ą can be pronounced /ɔw̃/, [ɔn], [ɔŋ], [ɔm], and ę can be pronounced /ɛw̃/, [ɛn], [ɛŋ], [ɛm]. The table then points to the Nasal vowels section, but that section doesn't explain which of [ɔn], [ɔŋ] or [ɔm] is ą pronounced (same for ę). I think Ą#Pronunciation and Ę#Pronunciation have a great table that concisely lists out which pronunciation is used based on the following letter, but those list out [ɔj̃] and [ɛj̃] as well. Is it possible to write the Nasal vowels sections more clearly? 86.187.237.130 (talk) 19:25, 17 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of ą and ę is not presented clearly