Talk:Stillbirth

message: Why is the first piece of information in this article that stillbirth means "quiet birth"?  If there's a more complicated etymology than meets the eye, I'd sincerely be interested, but the present bit of information does nothing for the article in my opinion.  However, an fuller explanation of the origin would justify its presence.  MagnesianPhoenix (talk) 06:53, 5 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I totally agree. I'll get rid of it. Jamie1743 (talk) 23:33, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quiet birth? 

message: I have heard that Dr. Collins is the expert in umbilical cord accidents. Where can I find info on his research? Maybe we should post some of his research in this article.
--Why Are (talk) 07:44, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dr. Jason Collins 

message: I find that making the effort to state "(Except Cannabis)" when referring to the fact that drugs may cause cannabis indicates that we KNOW that cannabis does not cause stillbirth.  The article cited doesn't include a journal name, and I've been unable to locate it. As such, I'm removing the statement as I feel it may mislead readers into thinking that cannabis use is safe in pregnancy, which I'm pretty sure it's not.  If good evidence is provided to the contrary I'd have no problem with my edit being reversed.
Icomeau (talk) 23:26, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cannabis 

message: "This article needs attention from an expert on the subject. See the talk page for details. WikiProject Medicine or the Medicine Portal may be able to help recruit an expert. (November 2008)"
I think most experts on the subject are excluded from contributing on the subject because it violates thier insurance agreements.  Otherwise-this article is very sound despite "inexpert" sources.  Recommend above quote be struck.GESICC (talk) 17:00, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with your thoughts. Besides, it has been more than two years since that was notice was added. I will remove it. If someone has particular concerns, they can list them here. Charvex (talk) 07:58, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Professional contributions 

message: Please consider adding www.finleysfootprints.com to the list of external links FinleysFootprints (talk) 08:55, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  request for consideration 

message: The stillbirth rates quoted for the UK are not referenced and are, apparently, wrong. The latest results I can find suggest the rate is 3.5 per 1000 births (about 1 in 285) and this is widely reported in the UK media. Unless anyone objects I will update these figures and provide references. Tripper (talk) 20:57, 13 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stillbirth rates 

message: It's gross. For people younger than the age of 14 (How old I am) coming on this page to read about this, it can definitely stay in your head for a while. Disgusting.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 8.22.90.198 (talk) 03:55, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sometimes reality is "disgusting". It's relevant to the article. Liz Read! Talk! 13:12, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove picture of tangled cord? Very graphic. 

message: I'm a complete novice at wiki, but this article states South Asians have a higher prevalence of still births, could it be edited in by someone with more knowledge, because i'd just completely mess it up.
http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/parenting/study-finds-more-stillbirths-among-south-asian-women/story-fnet08ck-1226463820255  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.147.198.39 (talk) 09:16, 3 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Study finds more stillbirths among South Asian women 

message: the image is too disturbing. i remember some image hide/show function on wikipedia but don't know how to use. can you hide please?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.177.230.211 (talk) 16:54, 16 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Read WP:NOTCENSORED. ZappaOMati 00:58, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  the image 

message: Please see Talk:Stillborn#Redirect  czar ♔ 18:23, 8 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Stillborn]] redirect 

message: Don't most stillbirths induce lactation in the mother? If they don't dry up naturally, don't those mothers have to be treated with drugs or milk pumps or the milk may cake while still in the breast? The only article I have found that covers the subject even partway is Lactation suppression. I think this should be covered under the Treatment section. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 18:24, 30 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lactation after stillbirth 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I am glad to see there is a section on society and culture in this article but I would like to encourage those who know more about stillbirths than I do to please expand on that. I think we need more information on the historical development regarding how a society sees stillbirths (from something that happened "all the time" - "get over it quickly" to something very tragic - parents are allowed to grieve). Also it would be important to highlight the difference with developing countries where stillbirth rates are still much higher than in wealthy countries and where the support that grieving mothers get is much less. So it would be great to have more on history, psyochological impacts on mothers/fathers, how that has perhaps changed over time and the situation in developing countries. Thanks. EvMsmile (talk) 00:33, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is a video on stillbirth that could either be included or that could help find suitable additional references (Lancet series): 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3g0_RxvTx4 EvMsmile (talk) 00:20, 11 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  More information needed on society and culture and mental health impacts 

message: First pregnancy is a risk factor. Not sure why this was removed? Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 22:37, 11 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:   Do you have robust evidence for this? Many women will have a first pregnancy and the probability of having future pregnancies declines with increasing number of pregnancies. It is like the Down syndrome paradox. Most babies with Down syndrome are born to women below the age of 35 (simply because most pregnant women in a population are below 35) although the individual risk of bearing a Down syndrome baby is low before 35. One will not find maternal age < 35 as a risk factor for Down syndrome. In addition mentioning this marginal risk factor in the Wikipedia article is not in the interests of public health. One won't find first pregnancy in text books or journal articles as a notable risk factor for stillbirth. Ear-phone (talk) 09:24, 13 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a ref at the end of every sentence in the lead. The one supporting first pregnancy is the NIH which lists "Never having given birth before" Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:49, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:   Thanks. I'm still sceptical about this. Are you aware of a primary source or text book that lists this? I think other established risk factors go ahead in order of priority/mentioning. Someone reading this might think in order to avoid stillbirth they need to avoid first pregnancy. Ear-phone (talk) 17:28, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure. If you never have a first pregnancy though you will never have a stillbirth. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:29, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  True . But this could dissuade someone from falling pregnant in the first place unnecessarily fearing stillbirth. The latest Lancet paper on ending preventable stillbirths that lists risk factors doesn't mention first pregnancy as a risk factor.  Maybe first pregnancy can be de-emphasised or not put close to the front?  Ear-phone (talk) 18:50, 14 October 2016 (UTC)

text: I've followed your conversation - interesting!! Learning new things every day through Wikipedia discussions. Thanks. EvMsmile (talk) 19:21, 14 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Have moved to last in the list. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 12:15, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks . I think that section makes it difficult to understand what is causal and what is a risk factor. Smoking for example is said to be a risk factor. I would suggest in the lead that only causes are mentioned. Ear-phone (talk) 00:28, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Disagree and feel risk factors are perfectly appropriate. Supported by this  Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 00:37, 8 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:   One of the primary sources in the reference you give  states "Both maternal self-reported smoking history and maternal serum cotinine levels were associated in a dose-response relationship with stillbirth.". The issue I'm raising is the distinction between a risk factor and a causal factor. Ear-phone (talk) 11:16, 9 December 2016 (UTC)

text: "Causes may include pregnancy complications such as preeclampsia and birth complications, problems with the placenta or umbilical cord, birth defects, infections such as malaria, and poor health in the mother.[2][4] Risk factors include a mother's age over 35, smoking, drug use, use of assisted reproductive technology, and first pregnancy.[5]" It is perfectly clear. Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 19:10, 9 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:   is smoking for instance best placed as a risk factor or a causal factor? Smoking and pregnancy. Ear-phone (talk) 12:11, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The ref calls it a risk factor  Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 13:55, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:   the ref is not immutable. Smoking is virtually causal. Ear-phone (talk) 16:15, 10 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: First pregnancy

message: Along with the new material about arginine at the article I found: Related to arginine is N-carbamylglutamate NCG has support as improving pregnancy and neonate well being at a variety of veterinary references.  "Maternal NCG supplementation significantly increased the number of total fetuses and live fetuses on day 28 of gestation by 1.32 and 1.29, respectively (P < 0.05), with a significant decrease in embryonic mortality (P < 0.05)." https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26290006 I do not know of any human studies yet.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Treonsverdery (talk • contribs) 00:34, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:MEDRS is the guideline we need to follow. Best Doc James (talk · contribs · email) 18:49, 5 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prevention 

message: We are a group of four 2nd year pharmacy students who are going to be working on improving this article over the next 2 weeks. I will be:
:- updating definitions of stillbirth
:- updating epidemiological statistics
:- updating the section for causes of stillbirth and differences among different populations
: Crystalnguyentan (talk) 21:12, 30 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foundations 2 2019, Group 2C Goals 

message: Goals
1) check for grammatical and syntax errors to improve the readers understanding and minimize confusion.--Inshaqari (talk) 02:35, 8 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foundations II Group 3A Goals 

message: "A stillbirth can result in the feeling of guilt or grief in the mother."
Well, of course! Why is this sentence necessary at all? What does this add? Without that sentence, would anyone reading this think, "I bet mothers who have stillborn children are overjoyed because of it." No, nobody has ever thought this. What does it contribute? Cinimodder (talk) 22:00, 15 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange sentence..why is this necessary? 

message: This article covers only human stillbirths, is it not called "stillbirth" if it happens to an other animal? ★Trekker (talk) 07:56, 7 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other animals