Talk:Tam Dalyell

message: I could never have guessed that his surname is pronounced that way.  Will someone add International Phonetic Alphabet or at least SAMPA? --Kaihsu Tai 15:49, 2004 Jan 22 (UTC)
:Done (only took a year and a half!). --Angr/ 28 June 2005 06:42 (UTC)
Also, there seems to be more to the Dalyell name (and the Binns):  --Kaihsu Tai 18:16, 2004 Jan 22 (UTC)
::I wonder if there isn't a /j/ in there too?
It is the same problem as Menzies.  The letter for the sound no longer exists: it used to be transcribed as Z, for example Zetland, now written as Shetland but would be better as Hyaltland. See also Menzies Campbell - today written as Ming - the g/z needs to be a bit of a glottal stop. Sebmelmoth (talk) 10:45, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of surname 

message: What is the basis for listing him as "Sir Tam Dalyell"? I have never heard of him having received a knighthood nor him being addressed in written or spoke form as "Sir Tam". He has always been Mr Dalyell as far as I know. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.41.213.37 (talk • contribs) 02:12, 12 August 2005  (UTC)
:He's a hereditary baronet. Mackensen (talk) 14:55, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Knighthood? 

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 05:10, 10 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: This is mentioned twice.
:I've gone and fixed it. In the future, feel free to be bold--jump in and make the changes! justinfr (talk) 14:44, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Er Judaism is not just about ethnicity or about nationality unlike, say, being Russian. See Who is a Jew?  Greenshed (talk) 21:42, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: alleged anti-semitism

message: * "... Many years later, he learnt from Oleg Gordievsky’s memoirs that the KGB had considered recruiting him because “for sheer naivety, we all agreed that nobody could touch Tam Dalyell” — but they decided against him on the grounds that he had “too many principles”. He spent his 43 years in parliament as a one-man awkward squad, oblivious, as he says, “to being labelled as a repetitive bore”. And it was being a repetitive bore that won him probably his lasting claim to fame as the originator of the “West Lothian question”. This was in a debate on the Scotland Bill in 1978 when, opposing devolution, he stood up at every possible opportunity and asked: “How can it be that I can vote on education in Accrington, Lancashire, but not in Armadale, West Lothian?” or: “How can I vote on health in Blackburn, Lancashire, but not in Blackburn, West Lothian?” Each time he would finish the question with: “It cannot be asked too often,” until John Smith exploded: “Oh yes, Tam, it bloody well can.” Enoch Powell suggested that to save time they should refer to Dalyell’s point as the West Lothian question and so it remains. Roy Hattersley once told him: “Tam, you do realise that, as a little side effect of your anti-devolution campaign, the Labour government fell and Margaret Thatcher became prime minister?” He thinks this comment was grossly unfair — “yet it contained just sufficient truth to make me blush”. And he says although he had some respect for most Tory prime ministers (especially Edward Heath) he had none at all for Thatcher. The best he can say for her is that she had a charming husband and was personally considerate to her staff, but he believes that she launched the Falklands war to save her political career, and lied to the House about the sinking of the Belgrano. Four times he was expelled from the House for accusing the prime minister of lying (twice over the Belgrano and twice over the Westland helicopter crisis) but the electors of West Lothian remained loyal. He campaigned over the Falklands, over Westland, over Iraq, over Lockerbie, but he says that the campaign of which he is proudest was saving the pink-footed booby in 1967. A zoologist friend warned him that the RAF was planning to build a runway on the Indian Ocean island of Aldabra... "
Lynn Barber, Sunday Times, 14 August 2011
--Mais oui! (talk) 09:08, 14 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: More autobiography stuff: "Independence now inevitable, says Tam Dalyell". --Mais oui! (talk) 03:36, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Sunday Times: "The Importance of Being Awkward: The Autobiography of Tam Dalyell" 

message: In Early life and career is "and taught at Bo'ness Academy and a ship school".  What is this?  It doesn't seem to be the same as "school ship" which redirects to training ship. If no relevant article to link to, then perhaps a footnote. (Mind you, it is uncited.) Davidships (talk) 23:01, 26 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added a couple of citations. In 1961–1962 he worked on the Dunera, a 12,000 ton vessel that had previously been a troop ship, taking school pupils on cruises around Europe. He later wrote a few books about ship schools. Drchriswilliams (talk) 01:37, 27 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: yes, Director of Studies, India Ship-School Dunera, ref= Creating the Arabian Gulf: The British Raj and the Invasions of the Gulf, by Paul John Rich, Lexington Books, 2009, page 223).Rodolph (talk) 12:31, 29 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you both, that reads well now.  These are what I knew as "educational cruises". (Incidentally, I suspect that "Director of Studies, India Ship-School Dunera" isn't quite right - it should be British India ship-school Dunera - it was nothing to do with the country, but to the ship's owner, British India Steam Navigation Co.) Davidships (talk) 22:44, 31 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  "ship school" 

message: In the summary panel, it says
    "Member of Parliament for Linlithgow West Lothian (1962 - 1983)"
When I first read this, I was sure it was clearly saying he was a member of parliament for Linlithgow (a town in West Lothian) between 1962 - 1983.  Which is wrong!
I only realised how it was meant to be read after I had looked at the introduction to the article, realised it said something different, and then started writing this comment to say the summary panel was inconsistent with the text!
I don't know enough about formatting Wikipedia information panels to know what your options are, but the current formatting / wording is very misleading.
Maybe -- maybe -- something like 
  Heading: "Member of Parliament for Linlithgow (previously West Lothian)"
or
  Heading: "Member of Parliament for West Lothian / Linlithgow"
Panel
   In office: West Lothian 1962 - 1983
              Linlithgow   1983 - 2005
RobertII (talk) 23:07, 27 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing presentation of dates 

message: Does anyone know the name of the book Tam Dalyell wrote plz xxx 92.8.226.143 (talk) 23:34, 14 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Books Sebmelmoth (talk) 03:31, 15 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book of Whitburn West Lothian