Talk:List of world eight-ball champions

message: *I don't understand why you moved :List of World Eight-ball Champions to :List of World Eight-ball champions, which violates the article naming conventions.  "World Eight-ball Champion" is a professional title, and thus a capitalized proper noun. "World Eight-ball" doesn't mean anything at all by itself, and certainly isn't a capitalized proper name. If "World Eight-ball Champion" were not such a title, but something Wikipedians made up as a descriptive term, the article would be :List of world eight-ball champions. I'm having WP:RM put the article back where it was, since you or someone else edited the redirect left by the move, and this is blocking a non-administrative move back to the original title. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont]  ‹(-¿-)› 16:48, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: * Um, no, that's completely nonsensical.  "World Eight-ball" doesn't mean anything at all.  There's no such thing as "World Eight-ball" (or world eight-ball for that matter).  I think you are misparsing the construction as "champions of world eight-ball", when the meaning is "world champions of eight-ball".  Regardless, professional titles of this sort are proper nouns. I also reverted your de-capitalization of the titles of published rule-sets. Publication titles are capitalized, whether they are novels, history books, comic books, movies, TV shows, or rules booklets. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont]  ‹(-¿-)› 03:38, 29 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion copied from [[User talk:Fram#Huh?]]

message: I was working on the long-tagged split of this article into :List of World Eight-ball Champions and :List of World Blackball Champions and it occurred to me that the material is so sparse and particular that it should simply be moved into articles on the events (though there is no World Blackball Championship article at this point).  Then it occurred to me that in addition to this, readers' most likely search phrases for material like this will be "world pool champion" or "pool world champion", without specifying the game.  What we really need here is a more comprehensive pool champs article, and much of this will be easily sourceable from the back of the BCA rulebook, going all the way back to around the turn of the previous century.  If we can declare the above naming debate closed as "no consensus" but agree on this, then the article can simply move to :World pool champions with a redir at :Pool world champions, lower case since no specific title is being referenced, only a class of such titles, and everyone should be happy! PS: Since each game and sanctioning body would be in its own section, the specifics could still be easily linkable-to from eight-ball, blackball, etc. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont]  ‹(-¿-)› 15:43, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I second a page called World Pool Champions, and the BCA book sounds intriguing; please share. Sandman30s (talk) 14:49, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be a page-move of this page to the new title, and rewrite to make it more encompassing.  The BCA book has twelve pages of championship results and world records in eight-ball (the US-style game, not eight-ball pool / blackball), nine-ball, and straight pool.  For other games like ten-ball we'll need additional sources.  I'm pretty sure the monthly magazines can be turned to for that. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont]  ‹(-¿-)› 16:24, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you do the move please, and incorporate List of WPA World Nine-ball champions at least? I'm not comfortable with doing this. Thanks. Sandman30s (talk) 10:37, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I'll try to get to it soon-ish. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont]  ‹(-¿-)› 02:02, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename and re-scope proposal 

message: An anon made this change, which seems dubious: .  Needs to be verified.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  21:17, 25 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terry Higginson changed to Nigel Davis 

message: I removed the following unsourced section, because of lack of sources, lack of notability, and lack of international scope. If this is even real, these don't appear to be world championships in a world sport, they're national events that are open to non-nationals, like pretty much everything, like the US Open, etc.  At very least, we should have a properly sourced (i.e. WP:DYK-acceptable) stub at Chinese eight-ball pool (not "Chinese 8-Ball Pool", though that should redirect there, among other variant spellings; see MOS:CUE). 
This section lists world champions in Chinese eight-ball pool, sanctioned by the World Pool-Billiard Association, the Chinese Billiards and Snooker Association, and usually one or more Chinese government departments. This is played in China and attracts cue-sports professionals from all over the world. It is played on a 9 foot by 4½ foot table with rounded snooker-style pockets, rails and cloth, and with 2¼ inch pool balls.  It is not to be confused with Chinese eight-ball.
Date	Location               	Winner                                                                                                                                                                                                                                	Nationality	Runner-up 	Nationality
2016	Yushan County, Shangrao	Shi Han-Qing http://www.azbilliards.com/news/stories/12559-clean-sweep-for-china-at-sanlig-china-billiards-world-championship/                                                                                                        	           	Mick Hill 	
2015	Yushan County, Shangrao	Darren Appleton http://thepoolscene.com/international-pool-and-billiards/champions-2015-chinese-8-ball-world-championshipshttp://www.azbilliards.com/news/stories/11783-2015-chinese-8-ball-world-championships-a-players-perspective/	           	Mark Selby	
 — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  19:32, 15 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you mean 'if this is even real' - there are videos of it? I thought those are proper references as well. I only added it after a great interest was shown in my country to send players over to the big-money Chinese events, and they finally decided to have a world championships in their unique form of pool. I think a $100,000 first prize is notable, is as the calibre of the players. It certainly is an international event! Sandman1142 (talk) 09:50, 17 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Youtube is user-generated content, not a reliable source.  If there are reliable sources establishing the notability of "Chinese eight-ball pool", the variant should be covered in a section at Eight-ball.  Adding a list here of alleged world champions of this game is jumping the gun, when the game itself has no coverage at all on Wikipedia.  Taking your word for it that notability could be established, I've opened a discussion about this at Talk:Eight-ball#Chinese eight-ball pool.  I'll go over the sources so far, at that venue, since we would add info about the game itself (there, or given very good sourcing, perhaps even in its own article), before we would add a list of its champions here. PS: Money being involved has nothing to do with notability. The fact that some people who are notable showed up to try to get that money doesn't relate to notability, either; notability does not transfer by osmosis.  Otherwise, every single competition with a large prize fund would be automagically notable by definition.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽ʌⱷ҅ᴥⱷʌ≼  10:10, 29 May 2016 (UTC)
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