Talk:Airport rail link

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Should San Francisco be under commuter rail?  Or even one-seat ride? To get from CalTrain, you have to take BART, not exactly an airport train. In addition, once you get to the airport (including if you come from elsewhere on BART) you may want to transfer to AirTrain. Simply extending AirTrain and upgrading CalTrain would have been better than SFO BART, IMO.
::I moved it. BART is definitely more of a regional/commuter service and its fare structure is based on distance. Regarding train-to-airport though, if it gets you between the city center and at least one (1) part of the airport (in this case, the International Terminal) directly, then it qualifies as a direct rail link.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.235.218.88 (talk) 07:40, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you to User:Jfruh for answering my question. --Jason McHuff 20:21, 29 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm wondering how to treat SFO in this list.  It's perfectly possible to walk from the BART station to wherever you want to go in the terminal -- BART is immediately adjacent to the International terminal, and the terminals are all physically connected.  But you can transfer directly from BART to SFO's people mover, and because of the airport's size, many do so. --Jfruh 14:45, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I took another stab at it. --agr 16:07, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm...Taking a look at People mover, SFO is not the only airport that has both an external train connection and an internal train.  O'hare (where you have to take a long walk to get to the internal train to get to the int'l term) and Atlanta are two.  Also, where do we draw the line for Rail to bus to airport?  Dulles is a long way from the DC metro, though it does have dedicated bus service, and for LGA, you have to take a standard city bus. --Jason McHuff 18:40, 3 October 2005 (UTC)

message: Milwaukee's airport is under two categories in this list: "One-seat ride via main-line train," and "Rail to bus to airport".  Clearly they both can't be right.  To fall into the first category, the train station ought to be in or immediately adjacent to the terminal, and a passenger ought to customarily get from one to the other on foot.  Please, can someone who's actually been to Milwaukee's airport clarify the situation there? --Jfruh 19:10, 16 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Milwaukee in two categories 

message: I'm not happy with the title Train-to-the-plane. It sounds more like a marketing term than an encyclopedic article title, and googling suggests that its use is New York specific at least to some degree. Would anyone object to retitling it to Airport rail link instead? Henning Makholm 10:19, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No objection here. --Jfruh (talk) 14:16, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just stumbled in here. I think that Train to the plane needs to be redirected to the JFK Express which is the NYC Specific article that Henning Makholm is talking about. If not, at least a see other section. Rob110178 22:30, 16 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move proposal 

message: In Helsinki there is work in progress on extending the local commuter rail service to cover the airport (estimated to be ready in a few years); as far as I know there is an entry in the Helsinki Commuter Rail section (if not in the English, than in the Finnish Wikipedia), and in Bucharest there is a direct rail link, using an existing track, to a station close to the Otopeni airport, and from there the passengers are taken by buses to the airport (the other airport in Bucharest, Băneasa, is inside the city and has direct access to several city public transportation lines).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.221.16.51 (talk) 17:59, 19 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Helsinki and Bucharest

message: Friedrihshafen airport FDH, a minor airport in Germany also has a rail link with regional trains. airport website or pdf outlining the train connections. FDH is a minor airport, but shouldn't it be included?. Ah, I'll just add it. --84.145.227.90 17:59, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Friedrichshafen airport

message: The "One-seat ride via main-line train" section starts out by describing its content as "Commuter rail-type services".
I don't think there is much commuter rail about the kind of trains that call at Frankfurt (Main) Flughafen Fernbahnhof ... in fact, for an airport served by an actual commuter rail service, I would tend to classify it as "local public transport".
How can we explain the distinction between these sections better? Is it possible to distinguish them at all? Perhaps it rather ought to be a three-way split between
# "intercity rail" (continuing beyond the urban area nominally served by the airport)
# "dedicated airport express" (without intermediate stops, usually separate fare structure)
# "local public transport" (local to metro area, not dedicated to airport traffic)
Many airports have two of these, but not always the same two. Perhaps coalesce the two existing sections, and tag each item with which kinds of service exists? –Henning Makholm (talk) 01:09, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I would tend to agree with you.  In fact, why bother dividing them into categories at all? The current setup creates a somewhat confusing situation where the same airport might be listed in multiple spots on the page.  I would say that the whole list should be alphabetical by city, or perhaps broken up by continent and then alphabetical within each continet.  The entry for each airport should list all rail connections at that airport. --Jfruh (talk) 19:02, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distinguishing between "main-line rail" and "local public transport" 

message: Definition: "from an airport to a nearby city".
TGV in Paris CDG and Lyon-Saint Exupéry airports are not airport rail link considering the above definition. There are no TGV from Paris going to Paris CDG and no TGV or even trains from Lyon to Lyon-Saint Exupéry.
- For Paris CDG, there is currently the RER B, which is a commuter train / rapid transit for the suburbs of Paris. There is going to be a real airport rail link: CDG Express in 2016 (see official site). For Orly, there is the Orlyval which leads to a RER station but not to the city center of Paris. It's not widely used.
- For Lyon, there are only buses (Satobus) from Lyon to the airport (1 hour). There is also going to be a real airport rail link, RhônExpress in 2010 (25 minutes).
These are only clues to improve this article, as I'm a Frenchman not fluent in English and I could be wrong with these airport rail link. I suggest to switch from TGV to RER for Paris CDG. For Lyon, it can be removed or replace TGV by indicating RhônExpress for 2010.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.216.232.253 (talk) 13:50, 31 December 2009 (UTC)
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message: Updated Taiwanese airport rail link. Taoyuan metro is now operational to Taiwan Taoyuan International Airport; Taipei Songshan airport (TSA) is now added as well as Kaohsiung International Airport's rail link.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Unchangingtask (talk • contribs) 05:00, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
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message: I undid edits by IP editor 203.121.198.0 that removed several Asian system because they lack a people mover. Our article includes systems with "intermediate use of people mover or shuttle bus." If there is some need to point out systems that do not include a final people mover, this can be done with a footnote or the like or in a note in the articles about the individual systems. Deleting systems, some major, is not helpful to our readers.--agr (talk) 23:44, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Of all the systems listed under Asia, only Jakarta has a "rail to people mover to airport". If you really want to be specific and consider individual terminals then Bangkok Suvarnabhumi may stay, as it has a heavy rail station to the Main Terminal Building and a people mover from there to SAT-1 Building. All others are either connected via heavy rail or metro to all terminals. There is nothing "people mover"-like about the Tokyo Keikyu Line, Seoul Metro Line or the Delhi Metro Line. They are all direct to heavy rail systems. Hence, Jakarta as my edit. 203.121.198.0 (talk) 07:08, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removals for lack of people mover