Talk:Theremin

message: Can someone upload a 30 second .ogg file of what a theremin sounds like? I think that would be a neat addition to the article. –Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 05:06, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, now I see the  template was added. Well, count me as one more person supporting this. – Kerαunoςcopia◁galaxies 05:09, 21 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There's some audio files in .ogg format at commons:Category:Theremin. -- œ™ 00:42, 26 March 2010 (UTC)

text: I added one example to the article, placed underneath the infobox. You may choose a different example if you want. -- œ™ 01:11, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A legato piece would be more characteristic, anyway. -- megA (talk) 20:39, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sound example 

message: Could someone with access to relevant sources (I.e. Glinsky's book, for example) write a few sentences about Lucy Rosen? If not her playing, her relentless contribution to popularizing the instrument in the 1920s and afterwards and her financial support for Leon Theremin and his instrument have been invaluable. Unfortunately, I don't have the Glinsky book. -- megA (talk) 19:00, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Not being rude, but do you have access to a nearby library? You seem to know something about this topic, how about doing some research? --Monotonehell 10:09, 5 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Rudeness doesn't translate well over here, so no problem. ;-) As I said, I don't have access to the Glinsky book. I just know what I've learnt on theremin newsgroups etc, which might be no more than hearsay. Without proper sources, anything I'd write would face removal... -- megA (talk) 14:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)

text: That's a good start. I was actually thinking more of a short paragraph in the theremin article. I don't know if she's notable enough for her own article. I was hoping someone might have printed/published information about her... -- megA (talk) 14:59, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lucy Bigelow Rosen 

message: Found this and thought it would be a good addition to the video games section of the article, but will let someone more knowledgeable decide and make the write up.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBhOB7CfUoY  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.84.180.8 (talk) 12:43, 15 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theremin guitar hero 

message: Protopunk legend John Otway has used a Theremin in his songs, most famously Bunsen Burner, ever since he acquired one. Should I include him as a mention under the 'Popular music' section?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sheled Umlal (talk • contribs) 21:54, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Otway mention? 

message: I think the character Mala plays a theremin in this movie.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.210.200.206 (talk) 15:51, 28 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Captain Nemo and the Underwater City 

message: The page makes this claim "The theremin was used for Alexander Courage's theme for the original Star Trek TV series" based solely on this comment "Gene had one [theramin] play the theme for Star Trek" in the page at http://www.retrothing.com/2006/06/theremin_ghostl.html/.  Based on the comments made by Alexander Courage in the video at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oppn9BT6XM, I believe that the sound heard in the theme song is a woman's voice, not a theramin.  (I saw a recent "Big Bang Theory" episode which sort of made this claim also, and wanted to determine the veracity.) Would someone with more 
"Courage" than me please double-check and fix it if necessary? (This may be more complex -- there may be multiple versions about.) Ccady (talk) 17:16, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: To the best of my knowledge, the first season of Trek used an ondes martenot for the theme, the second and third seasons used a woman's voice.THD3 (talk) 01:13, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The first season doen't use an ondes either, it's just the French horns and 'celli that carry the theme. Here's the first season theme: (Youtube) The soprano who actually sung the theme later was Loulie Jean Norman. Neither an ondes nor a theremin were ever used for the Star Trek theme, despite its popularity amongst theremin players. Corrected and added reference for soprano usage. -- megA (talk) 14:28, 9 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, but the first few episodes - including the second pilot - used a different orchestration (youtube).  The second pilot opening was also notable because it didn't have the "Space, the final frontier" narration.THD3 (talk) 01:41, 10 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but that was either an electric organ or a synthesizer, depending on the sources, but not an ondes or theremin. Still, I've added the synthesizer/organ usage. -- megA (talk) 10:39, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Does the Star Trek theme really use a theramin?

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message: It sure sounds like a theremin at the end of One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest (film). I haven't found it mentioned, though.
It may be worth checking out, especially since the film was nominated for the Academy Award for Original Music Score. Not sure how many times that happened.Kid Bugs (talk) 19:23, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't checked it, but bear in mind that there simply wasn't any studio thereminist available since Samuel Hoffmann's death in 1967. It might be a synthesizer or an Electro-theremin... -- megA (talk) 09:26, 26 May 2012 (UTC)

text: EDIT: I listened to the track and what sounds like a theremin is actually a "musical saw", which is frequently mistaken for a theremin (and vice versa), except for the "bowing sound", which adds a bit of distortion at the beginning of a note. see here, for example-- megA (talk) 09:32, 26 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest 

message: Below information had been tagged for needing citations for over a year. Please feel free to reincorprate this material with appropriate references. Doniago (talk) 12:55, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced Material 

message: Is it worth including a section on ultrasonic (or other sensor type) forms of the theremin as well as the conventional EM type?  Much of them are built as educational projects for controllers such as Arduino.
Example projects/websites:
Audio Engineering Society Ultrasonic Theremin
Theremin Controlled by Ultrasound Rangefinder (Youtube)
Arduino Blog - Ultrasound Theremin  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SheffGruff (talk • contribs) 11:47, 24 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ultrasonic Theremin 

message: Here is a possible addition to the [Popular Music] section, which I am suggesting here per the instructions in the Edit page. Angelo Moore of the alternative rock band Fishbone has been playing a theremin regularly on that band's albums plus his solo work since around 1997. Independent sources on this are rather weak but it was discussed briefly at the Theremin World website (here) and it's very obvious to those familiar with his work. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:38, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Does Angelo Moore have any significance to the theremin and its art? (Not "are theremins notable to Fishbone?")  Coverage in Theremin World is just the sort of place where we'd find sources for such a claim. However in this case so far, I'm not seeing it. Just "Damn he's getting good", doesn't really cut it, I'm afraid. Andy Dingley (talk) 23:44, 9 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Lighten up, I was just making a friendly suggestion for an informative addition to the article. I assumed that popular acceptance of the theremin by modern working musicians was possibly notable, and I also did not say that the Theremin World thread was a reliable source. Did you search for any other sources before dismissing my friendly suggestion? Also, do you own this article? Have a nice day. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 19:31, 10 May 2013 (UTC)

text: Sounds like all that's missing is a specific source then. DonIago (talk) 18:17, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Excellent. I'll get on that shortly. St. botolph (talk) 18:55, 11 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular Music section 

message: This section is becoming a "kitchen sink" of everything that reminds someone of the theremin. When will the slide whistle (continuous pitch variation, sounds vaguely like a theremin) and the flexatone be added?! -- megA (talk) 20:57, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  What are "similar instruments"? 

message: Captain Beefheart is already a highly-underrated musician whose influence is forgotten/belittled by many. His use of the theremin in "Electricity" from the 1967 album Safe as Milk should definitely be noted here. AndrewOne (talk) 23:22, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's assume for the moment the unsourced claim that Beefheart used a theremin. What significance does Beefheart have for the theremin? Andy Dingley (talk) 09:50, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add Captain Beefheart 

message: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qh38CmbGFBM
- Biffy used a Theremin on 2 tracks at least on Only Revolutions I know of - maybe more; One being heard in the video, Shock Shock. 
Should this be added to the article?
:Has a reliable source taken note of it? DonIago (talk) 13:20, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biffy Clyro  

message: It is named after the Westernized name of its Russian inventor, Léon Theremin, who patented the device in 1928.
So, the instrument (and this article's title) is "Theremin", and the inventor's name is "Theremin", but this is somehow "Westernized"???
These seem the same to me??? -- Explain??
: The name "Theremin" is already Westernized. Originally it is Терме́н and would be closer to "Termen" as a simple transliteration. "Theremin" (as pronounced in English) is a closer representation of its Russian pronunciation. Andy Dingley (talk) 12:42, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: To be precise, the name "Theremin" is of French origin, and was "Russified" in turn after Lev's Huguenot ancestors moved to Russia... Theremin, IIRC, re-adopted the French spelling "Theremin" while setting off on his European tour, and the spelling was adopted in English instead of the more faithful "Termen" transliteration. (Unlike in English, "th" is pronounced "t" in French. Thus Russian /tʲɛr'mɛn/ vs. French /teʀ'mɛ̃/ vs. English /'θɛɹəmɨn/.) -- megA (talk) 12:56, 15 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Westernized name" -- ?? 

message: Is anyone able to track down the year of publication for this video of theremin showcasing his instrument so it can be seen whether it can be used in the article? Alternatively maybe one of these videos might be excerpted. A video showing how the instrument is actually played would be valuable. Opencooper (talk) 01:26, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video 

message: Simply to say that it uses an oscillator is naive beyond belief: all sound is an oscillation of some complexity, what is needed is a more precise definition of the wave-form.
The design graphic is also confusing, suggesting that both circuits are parallel, whereas the core logic is that the generated wave-form is modulated in pitch by one antenna and it's associated circuitry, and then amplified, often under the control of another. The antennae create a capacitance with reference to earth, which the human body interferes with. There are two ways of detecting that interference, one by reference to an unmodulated circuit (one in which no antenna and body is present) and the other by reference to the previous level in the same circuit (ie dynamically).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.197.29.143 (talk) 12:42, 10 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expanded "How it works" would be useful 

message: There are several well-known pieces of music and show themes that people THINK are theramins, but aren't.  So would it be useful to include such a list?  A starting point could be taken from Theremin World's FAQ:
*  Good Vibrations by the Beach Boys - this instrument was custom-built for the Beach Boys by Paul Tanner, and is known as a Tannerin or Electro-Theremin.  
*  The original theme music for Doctor Who was performed by Delia Derbyshire in 1963 using a combination of hand-tuned oscillators and tape loops that were cut and spliced together in a technique known as musique concrete.
*  the original theme music for Star Trek was sung by soprano Loulie Jean Norman.
Would this be worthwhile, do you think?--Gronk Oz (talk) 14:42, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm inclined to say no, unless non-theremin-specific sources have noted them. DonIago (talk) 15:37, 20 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of music which is often mistaken for a theremin? 

message: Armen Ra might be of significance to the article. -- AlexanderHovanec (talk) 00:02, 29 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion

message: Shouldn't we list some use of theremins in popular music from the last few years? It demonstrates how the instrument is still sought after today. An example is Muse's album Simulation Theory. Solitude6nv5 (talk) 19:06, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: With independent sourcing discussing the use of the theremin, sure. Do sources discuss the use of the theremin on that album? DonIago (talk) 19:14, 9 May 2019 (UTC)

text: I'm strongly against such - read this talk page, particularly #Big Bang Theory for why. We should only add such a band if that band is relevant to the theremin, not merely that the theremin is relevant to the band. Andy Dingley (talk) 20:44, 9 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern examples 

message: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonny_Quest_(TV_series)#Episodes
Here's a clip of the sound: http://classicjq.com/media/IM_InTheCave.mp3
If so, it should be mentioned in this Wiki entry under "Uses" and then "Television." Phantom in ca (talk) 20:18, 27 June 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Per WP:IPCV, it should not be mentioned unless an independent source can be provided to establish that this use is considered significant in some manner. DonIago (talk) 02:24, 28 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Did original Jonny Quest series use it in "The Invisible Monster" (ep. 20) for haunting energy monster sound? 

message: The theremin was used in the theme music for the TV show Dark Shadows, right? This was one of the more famous uses, if the instrument was a theremin (I think it was, but am not sure). If so, it needs to be mentioned in the list.
Kreline (talk) 11:22, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: See my comment in the above thread regarding WP:IPCV. DonIago (talk) 18:17, 5 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dark Shadows 

message: Add "...and piccolo trumpet in unison...", after "...steel guitar..."
Your (Wikipedia's) own article on "The Boxer" confirms this. I will cite other sources if necessary.
Why did your bot reject my edit? Snebod (talk) 10:41, 8 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Instruments used on The Boxer solo on original studio version. 

message: In this article, the word does not have an initial cap when referring to the type of instrument (as opposed to the guy's name): why? I've done an image search, and on all the Moog - and other - products that feature "Theremin" in the description printed on the instrument itself, the word is in all caps, so that gives no evidence.
One could argue that the word is from a proper name, and that it's also a proper name when referring to the instrument, because it's like a brand name.
But, on the other hand, you could argue that Moog, etc. is the brand; and that a type of instrument, such as violin, trombone, is not capitalised.
What do others think?
(I found this packaging with an initial cap: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Theremin-selber-bauen-Martin-M%C3%BCller/dp/3645653473
... though that's in the context of text in German, a language that capitalizes all nouns.)
Now I'll go and write about why I believe that covid should not be capitalised, even though the Concise Oxford Dictionary disagrees with me, having the headword with an initial capital ... Spel-Punc-Gram (talk) 04:12, 17 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalisation of ''Theremin''