Talk:List of Catholic dioceses (alphabetical)

message: Okay, I THINK I counted right when I too reached 488 entries here. Is the total number important enough that people should update this count as entries go up? Perhaps a little "Upon adding entries to this list, please update the count" or something? I'm just not bold enough! 81.93.102.185 17:24, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've modified your text a little, to show the total number of diocese in the Church. I get 2966 from the list at Catholic-Hierarchy.com, so I've said "about 3000". Argyriou (talk) 17:58, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Count 

message: I've begun to rename Bishopric of X articles to Diocese of X, and have immediately run into difficulties with the European Prince-Bishoprics. What I suggest to do is dissociate these historical political entities from the present-day dioceses and split the articles. 
EG: the current article Bishopric of Liège deals mostly with the historical political entity (the Prince-Bishopric Liège)in what is now Belgium. What seems to me to be the best option is rename the article Prince-Bishopric of Liège and put the post-1802 diocese in a separate article Diocese of Liège --Isolani 14:58, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That seems eminently sensible to me. In your example, Diocese of Liège should be the link in this list, as it's talking about (mostly) current dioceses. Argyriou (talk) 18:02, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prince-Bishopric 

message: For a while, the text at the top said that archdioceses were not included on this list. However, there were a number of archdioceses on the list. Since an archdiocese is not the same as an ecclesiastical province, I've decided to include archdioceses here, but to highlight them in bold. I'll be adding in a few more archdioceses, including a few I had removed, over the next few days. User:Argyriou (talk) 21:16, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this is the right call.  An archdiocese is a type of diocese, and it makes no sense to have a list of dioceses that doesn't include any of the most important dioceses. john k 21:11, 26 July 2007 (UTC)

text: An organizational  list would be useful, whether or  not Wikipedia is the Vatican Printing Office.  Obviously, it's complicated, and  Benkenobi's proposed organization is actively wrong - an archbishop normally heads both an archdiocese  (which is merely a diocese headed by an archbishop) and a province (which is a group of dioceses).  At any rate, it would obviously be very complicated, and so forth, but it would still be a useful list. john k 04:56, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We do have such articles, divided by country, though there is not yet complete coverage. I suspect it may be useful to combine some countries into regional articles, especially where there are few dioceses and provinces. Argyriou (talk) 16:55, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the list would be very long, 3000 some odd dioceses. Before that can happen, the continental and national lists would need to be done. I am working on the national lists so that the information can be taken from them rather easily and put together in the long lists as needed. Right now North America is finished, although I still have to work on the eparchies and archeparchies, but I will leave those until later. South America I will finish all the national lists, and then move on from there. One of the benefits is that you can create a large number of stubs to fill the diocese holes, which is my intent. I was filling up stub holes when I realised how much quicker it was to first make a list of all the dioceses in a particular area and go from there. Benkenobi18 04:49, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Europe, North and South America, and Oceania are all done. That leaves Asia and Africa. I'm still running about 30k behind this list, so I hope to catch up with you guys soon. Benkenobi18 (talk) 21:22, 16 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archdioceses 

message: I would like some comments on how to include other denominations.  For example, some Byzantine, Syro-Malabar, and Marionite diocese are listed.  What about Romanian and Armenian (as well as other) dioceses?Npeters22 (talk) 15:53, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would include all the diocese of the other Catholic Churches in communion with Rome. I think it would be best to indicate that a diocese is non-Roman by putting the particular church in parentheses after the location. For example, Van Nuys (Byzantine). Argyriou (talk) 21:50, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: By "non-Roman" you obviously mean "non-Latin" or, to express it  positively, "Eastern".  You will find plenty of Church documents that use the terms "Latin" and "Eastern" to distinguish the two classes.  You will not find even one document of the Holy See in this century or the last that uses "Roman" to mean "Latin Rite".  The list is certainly incomplete as it stands.  I agree with your suggestion about adding an indication of which Eastern Catholic Church an eparchy belongs to. Lima (talk) 19:56, 20 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Other Denominations

message: As this list includes Eastern Catholic dioceses which are not "Roman," the article should be renamed Catholic dioceses (alphabetical) to agree with the main article, Catholic Church.  --EastmeetsWest (talk) 21:52, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: No, no, no. A new list called Eastern Catholic churches needs to be created to avoid confusion. I need to have a list of the Roman churches on their own, so I can go there when I am on vacation, not a lump sum page. I do NOT want to get to a church and find out it is Eastern. Clear? History2007 (talk) 22:38, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

text: Sorry.  Eastern Catholics don't have dioceses; they have eparchies.  So, at least in this regard, your point is moot. Also, Wikipedia is not a directory. --Richard (talk) 04:48, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see the discussion on the Catholicism project page. It is best to focus these discussions in one place. Thanks. History2007 (talk) 13:14, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

text: I do not agree. Please see the Catholicism project discussion. History2007 (talk) 18:51, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name Change 

message: I have just created Roman Catholic Diocese of Balecium. I am not sure if it should be added to this list, since it is titular seat but I guess users who are more acquainted with this matters will probably know. All the best.--Antidiskriminator (talk) 16:46, 23 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roman Catholic Diocese of Balecium 

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