Talk:HOT (missile)

message: The articles writes:". In 1997, HOT-3 was selected to be the base-line and low-cost missile armament of the Tiger attack helicopter for France and Germany at least until the PARS 3 LR becomes available. The unit cost for the launcher is $6,195 (HOT 3) and $2,450 for the missile."
Well, I don't believe that this missile could be so cheap.This information must be wrong.Agre22 (talk) 14:14, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
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message: Only a factical question; exist any sources that could confirm the tandem HEAT values, that are written in the Performance realtive to comparable weapons, because only for imagination; the 9K121 Vikhr has a 8-12 kg tandem warhead and only 1000 mm penetration , according to http://www.airwar.ru/weapon/aat/vichr.html, but here is stated that this missile can penetrate with only 6.48 kg tandem HEAT 1250 mm armor. This looks for me highly unlikely, improbable. Or the 9M123 Khrizantema, 8 kg tandem warhead, 1150 mm penetration... Could anyone answer me?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.245.64.178 (talk) 16:14, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: First off, the penetration figures are estimates, and even if accurate, may vary widely depending on the type of armor struck by a warhead.  Besides that, design factors of the warhead (such as the liner material and stand-off distance) will affect performance.  Trying to judge effective penetration by the weight of the warhead alone will probably lead one astray. W. B. Wilson (talk) 17:03, 29 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: My question was if exist any source that could confirm this "estimates". Dont try to lead it from the point. When it is no source-supported estimate, then it is something similar like I would now think me out, that this missile must have more then 2000 mm penetration because it is my opinion. And when you thing that judging the penetration by the weight of the warhead is wrong, then I can say you that expect the situation with this missile, the ratio between the weight of the warhead and the armor penetration behind ERA was around 150, heres 192.     But thats not the point, only I ask is a normal source, that confirms these estimates.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Molny9691 (talk • contribs) 16:38, 12 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not trying to "lead" from anything.  Your method of estimation is prone to error and simplistic.  If you wish to look for sources, then use Google -- it will find estimates such as this. W. B. Wilson (talk) 06:43, 13 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  tandem HEAT values of armour penetration 

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