Talk:Sodium acetate

message: I am far from a chemistry expert (this is just my first year teaching the subject in high school, so I guess I'm still learning), but wouldn't the Na come first in the chemical formula?  My class learned that the positive ion comes first - is that wrong? Thanks, Applejuicefool 21:22, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I am far from an expert as well, but I believe that the sodium would come first if we are treating acetate as simply a complex anion, C2H3O2-. However, the negative charge resides on the singly-bond oxygen and this is best represented as a methyl, CH3, then a doubly-bond oxygen, O, and finally, the O-: thus CH3OONa, where the cationic sodium is next to the anionic O. This difference is really thanks to organic and inorganic trends and in chemistry I believe. Because binomial nomenclature predominates at the early high school level and "methyl" and "carboxyl" are meaningless, the form NaC2H3O2 is preferred. Does this make sense? Srnec 19:05, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I changed the formulas in this article to CH3COONa for consistency.  Redhookesb (talk) 03:41, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chemical Formula 

message: The solubility on this page contradicts the numbers at solubility table.  Any idea on which one's correct?  Also, the solubility on this article is given as 76 g/100 ml at 0 C, which makes it a surprisingly high number (and an unusual temperature).  Does anyone confident in their chemistry know the answer?  Zashaw 20:23, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Solubility

message: Shouldn't the molecular formula be changed from CH3CO2Na to C2H3O2Na ? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 207.172.200.14 (talk) 22:26, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, for the 3-year late response, but here's my thoughts. Mind you, I'm a chem-n00b too. I believe the reason we name it CH3CO2Na is that that more closely resembles the actual chemical structure of the compound (i.e., the CH3CO2 part - we can assume the Na dissociates at least some of the time). To put it another way, we could write the chemical formula for an entire strand of DNA as Creally large numberHreally large numberNreally large numberOreally large numberPreally large number, but this doesn't tell us anything about the structure of DNA. Hope this helps (and hope I'm right)!69.249.223.63 (talk) 02:35, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, you're right. The molecular formula is just the numeric totals: I'm thinking of the structural formula. 69.249.223.63 (talk) 02:44, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Molecular Formula 

message: Isn't sodium acetate what gives salt and vinegar chips their flavour? It's probably the most well known use, but isn't here at all. Damanmundine1 12:32, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Salt and Vinegar Chips

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message: I'm pretty sure sodium diacetate that is used as a vinegar flavor is different and should not redirect to this.  Sodium acetate is a neutral salt. Sodium diacetate ionizes on hydration to form one acetic acid and one sodium acetate.  Gigs (talk) 06:19, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diacetate 

message: I think the skeletal formula got mixed up with the one of sodium FORMATE. The german article shows the right formula, also if one looks at chemical supplier's websites, on finds the right formula. How to change it?192.33.118.95 (talk) 16:43, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The chemical structure is correct.  In a skeletal formula, all the carbon atoms and the hydrogen atoms attached to them are implicit and not shown.  The German Wikipedia prefers partially skeletal formulas where some carbon and hydrogen atoms are explicitly shown and others are not. So the two images look different, but show the same chemical structure.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 14:14, 30 November 2015 (UTC)

text: I agree that consistency would be best.  The current image at sodium formate is not a skeletal formula (not even partially, all the atoms are shown explicitly).  There doesn't appear to be a diagram on Wikipedia or on Wikimedia Commons for a fully skeletal version of sodium formate.  An analogous one for formic acid is :File:Formic-acid-2D-skeletal.png though.  -- Ed (Edgar181) 17:10, 2 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Skeletal Formula