Talk:Roy Dupuis

message: [Cf. "editing summary" comment in "history" of article's revisions: "(English translation of French-Canadian word "Canadien" is "Canadian": French word for the team is "Canadien"/English is "Canadian"; see, e.g., ". (09:49 May 30, 2006 [UTC])]
The earlier translation ("Canadian") intended to suggest that Maurice Richard is a "Canadien" (Canadian) as well as a team member of the Montreal Canadiens and a "French-Canadian" Québécois; it ("Canadian") enables an historically larger sense of the word by including a triple meaning/triple entendre (?): that is, that Maurice Richard was not only a member of a hockey team (a Montreal Canadiens team member) but also both a French-Canadian (Canadien) and a role model for all Canadians (a Canadian).  The English translation "Canadian" was intended to maintain this triple meaning (?) which the French word "Canadien" also suggests [in English translation, the French word "Canadien" signifies a Canadian, a French-Canadian (Québécois), and a "Montreal Canadien" (hockey team player)].  Choice of (the English word) Canadian for the translation into English of the French word Canadien was thus a "considered choice," not a mistake (a "mistranslation").
:Please note: the Wikipedia entry  for Montreal Canadiens points out that in English-speaking Canada, the team the "Canadiens" is generally referred to as the "Montreal Canadiens":
"The franchise is officially known as Le Club de Hockey Canadien, but is usually referred to in English Canada as the 'Montreal Canadiens'."
:::For some further clarification, I have incorporated internal Wikipedia links to Canadien in both "Canadien" (French) and "Canadian" (English), respectively, in the current version.
::The Wikipedia entry for "Canadien" currently includes the following cross-reference to Montreal Canadiens, which makes the team connection clear.  The translation of Canadien as Canadian (with a link to Canadien) attempts to maintain the triple (?) meaning of "Canadien" as "Canadian," "French-Canadian" and "Montreal Canadien," which the word "Canadian" may still imply. "'Canadiens' redirects here. For the ice hockey team, see Montreal Canadiens." [Note well: There have been quite a lot of recent "reversions" in the entry for "Canada" (which redirects from Canadian now).  Some of those editing changes/reversions may have removed a cross-reference to Montreal Canadiens that I referred to being present in Canadian earlier.  I don't have time to go through the history of all those editorial changes/reversions in the current entry on Canada to sort them out.]
:Please note also: A previous paragraph  concerning Maurice Richard in the biographical section of this entry already refers to the Montreal Canadiens; it is very clear that Richard was a Canadien (French-Canadian--Québécois) member of the Montreal Canadiens and, of course, a Canadian (a [great] citizen of Canada).
:The program itself (Les Beaux Dimanches: Maurice Richard: Histoire d'un Canadien) is a two-part, two-hour-long miniseries first televised in Canada (in French) in 1999.  If someone who has seen the whole miniseries knows whether or not the larger sense (triple meaning?) of "Canadien" (as Canadian, French-Canadian, and Montreal Canadien) is emphasized thematically in the program, perhaps he/she will clarify this issue here in "Discussion."
:I still wonder how many potential meanings of (the word) Canadien the creators of the program's French title may have intended; to what degree they may have intended to suggest the various possible double or triple entendres as opposed to a single meaning of (the word) Canadien.
[I edited this discussion page after making another change to the entry to achieve (I hope) greater clarity and also greater significance in the translation of Canadien.] Thanks!--NYScholar 13:45, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Today I decided to substitute the "(Canada: English title)" given in IMDb.com to resolve these difficulties.  It is less complicated. [I've left this "discussion" intact, however.  If an administrator wants to delete the whole prior part of this section after the heading and the initial quotation from "Edit summary," that's fine with me.]--NYScholar 20:55, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
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* Revenir (2007) (Improvised short, filmed and screened as part of the 11th Festival Regard sur le court métrage, Saguenay, Quebec.)
Here is the link to the Festival website: caravane.tv; the only film that matches that description is not listed specifically by a title on that site in the film "screenings"; it is listed as "Film improvisé de Francis Leclerc," who directed Roy Dupuis in the long feature film Mémoires affectives (2004):
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Film improvisé
Course contre la montre et exercice extraordinaire de spontanéité, le film improvisé est l’occasion de permettre à un nouveau réalisateur de faire un court métrage de dix minutes en 48 heures. Le réalisateur, accompagné d’une équipe réduite, se verra contraint de respecter un genre, un lieu, des personnages, etc., contraintes imposées par le public. Pour le public du Festival, c’est l’occasion de découvrir une œuvre spontanée pour laquelle il a collaboré aux choix de productions.
Réalisateurs des films improvisés :
*2007 : Francis Leclerc
*2006 : Simon-Olivier Fecteau
*2005 : Maxime Giroux
*2004 : Christian Laurence
*2003 : Robin Aubert
*2002 : Yves Christian Fournier
*2001 : Louise Archambault
*2000 : Jean-François Rivard
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More information and a reliable source still needed in order to include such an entry in the filmography.  If you have such information (a verifiable reliable source), please list it on the talk page for further discussion and better presentation.  Thanks.  A link to an IMDb.com listing would be most helpful and/or a news article that can be read by W readers.  ----NYScholar 23:16, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
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message: Need to be formatted properly.  See Wikipedia:Reliable sources, Wikipedia:Cite, and please add authors, titles, where published, dates of publication, and dates of access, following the prevailing format.  This article has been updated with the most recent source about the Genie (not Gemini) award received by Roy Dupuis on February 13, 2006.  Accusations of Wikipedia:Vandalism are a personal attack when an editor is operating in good faith in improving an article.--NYScholar 00:33, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
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