Talk:Gene LeBell

message: "One can easily see why Gene LeBell would grow up to become the world class athlele, competitor and teacher he is."
I congratulate the writer(s) on the large amounts of effort they have gone to in their research regarding Mr. LeBell, however this article needs evalutation for NPOV.  I think it reads more like an overture dedicated to Mr. LeBell rather than an encyclopedia article focused on him.
202.74.202.30 05:36, 6 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Which is why it is probably not written in an NPOV...This is an extremely poor article obviously written by a fanboy.--Donnie from the mean streets of Boston, KY 03:44, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If it was obviously copied, the article should be deleted or stubbed. Zuiram 05:12, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This article was automatically  assessed because at least one article was rated and this bot brought all the other ratings up to at least that level. BetacommandBot 16:14, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject class rating

message: Did the story about him making 'The Great One' involuntarily empty his bowels get deleted again?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.136.115.45 (talk) 15:39, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Seagal?

message: This article has been semi-protected for six hours as it is repeatedly being edited by an IP with a direct connection to the subject. Please resolve the matter here and note that Wikipedia articles are not personal pages, and thus are not subject to the preferences of the subject. --Ckatzchatspy 20:21, 17 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected page 

message: A number of apparent single purpose accounts have edited this article, attempting to remove any connections to Bruce Lee, among other things. 
--Jtalledo (talk) 10:53, 2 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of Bruce Lee content 

message: For some strange reasons, user Jtalledo is so keen in adding the name 'Bruce Lee' into the student list under Gene LeBell in this article, despite failing to prove there was a formal teacher/student relationship between them after multiple interrogations.
Every source user Jtalledo refers to only give 3rd party statements. They are not proof.
Here are the factors which need to be considered: 
(1) Bruce Lee never acknowledged, in any way, that he had a teacher and student relationship with Gene LeBell. In fact, Bruce Lee never mentioned about Gene LeBell once. 
    No one is more qualified than Bruce Lee himself 
    to say whether Bruce Lee was a student of Gene LeBell. 
    If Bruce Lee never acknowledged it, nobody can say he was.
(2) Bruce Lee's students only mentioned that they trained with each other for some time. 
    Though they might have shown something to each other, 
 but that does not necessarily lead to a teacher and student to one another, 
 and there's no evidence of Bruce Lee ever calling Gene LeBell teacher.
(3) Gene LeBell has made many unsubstantiated statements saying that he taught Bruce Lee grappling and Bruce Lee taught him other techniques in return. But no record of Gene LeBell can be found in bruce Lee's thousands pages of training diary. 
— Preceding unsigned comment added by GregTillman (talk • contribs) 05:13, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gene LeBell's relationship with Bruce Lee is unsubstantiated 

message: Both his ranks are not officially recognised by the Kodokan! 
Furthermore are the organizations quoted in the atricle non of the three officiall usa judo organizations: United States Judo, Incorporated (USJI), United States Judo Federation (USJF) and the United States Judo Association(USJA). 
They seem to be more or less, small independent organizations which are able to promote members as they wish. 
To me it does not seem logical to rank him as a 10th or 9th degree judo practitioner based on the sources in the article.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.63.6.172 (talk) 13:11, 15 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Have you bothered to consider that the term "mixed martial arts" may not have been coined until much later than 1963, yet fights closely resembling modern MMA were already occurring for years by that point, albeit mostly in Brazil?  I found the fight listed on Sherdog, as is mentioned in the article, so someone out there evidently believes it to be an MMA match. RadioKAOS  –  Talk to me, Billy  03:24, 23 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: No official 10 Degree!

message: The story between Gene and Seagal had been sitting on the article for years without getting challenged by anyone. But it has recently gone since some update information was added. Can anyone find out why?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by RaymandRoys (talk • contribs) 11:23, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: What happened to the Seagal Section?

message: Citing stuff that happened on a show as meaningful is problematic in and of itself. While a link to a youtube video will show that it happened, it does not show that it is a notable event (you'll need independent reliable sources for that) meand any interpretation of the event is not acceptable (a video of the show is a primary source for anything that happens on the show).
As for the links themselves, we cannot use video uploaded by some random person. The shows are copyrighted (unless there is a specific release somewhere). Wikipedia does not link to likely copyright violations. - SummerPhD (talk) 15:04, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  YouTube sources 

message: "Online World of Wrestling" is not a reliable source. Neither Reliable Sources Noticeboard nor WikiProject Pro Wrestling support using it. I understand that it may be one of the few websites that cover pro-wrestling and I can see it's used as a source elsewhere but that doesn't excuse using it here. Chris Troutman (talk) 16:49, 14 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I see, but exactly, why is it wrong to use it here? OWOW covers pro wrestling issues, and my edition was about Leell's pro wrestling moves. The Great Pancracio (talk) 17:17, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Why are you still asking why? Because OWOW isn't a reliable source. Wikipedia doesn't use un-reliable sources. It doesn't matter if OWOW provides exactly the information you're looking for, we don't use it. It shouldn't be used anywhere in Wikipedia but I'm not watching those articles, just this one. Chris Troutman (talk) 17:47, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Online World of Wrestling 

message: I see you're another one of these drive-by editors trying to protect Steven Seagal's image. You're not the first. At this point we're reverting each other and per WP:EW, that needs to stop. Let's discuss the issue and come to consensus. Chris Troutman (talk) 14:30, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  The issue with Seagal, again. 

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message: Any information added must be supported with reliable reference(s). Be it just an addition of a person's name into the context of someone else' story. Third person's opinion, self-proclaim or hearsay cannot be regarded as a reliable reference. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Natsohk (talk • contribs) 07:16, 2 November 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reverted you. Discuss. Chris Troutman (talk) 07:21, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've already reported you to WP:AIV. If you edit war further, I'll take the issue to WP:ANEW as well. Chris Troutman (talk) 08:40, 14 March 2018 (UTC)
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message: In the movie I Am Bruce Lee, at ~38 minutes in Dan Inosanto says "Gene LeBell taught Bruce Lee grappling moves." Someone may want to add that as a footnote/reference/citation. Phantom in ca (talk) 20:48, 16 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dan Inosanto confirms Gene LeBell "taught" Bruce grappling! 

message: In one of the first phrases of article says that Mr. LeBell is nicknamed as "the Godfather of Grappling" but doesn't says by whom. I really wonder, despite fact that he has no any universall continental or ınternational success or title who calls him as the Godfather of the Grappling?--Baris365 (talk) 06:31, 16 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Two national championships in a grappling sport is considered successful. Training international gold medalists and champions in the same sport like Ronda Rousey is considered successful. As far as the nickname, I don't know who gave it to him? Is it sourced? Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 19:09, 22 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: How could you be the father of the sport in which you have national championships? If it's actually meant as father of the American grapplpling then is another story.I really don't know if it's sourced or not.--Baris365 (talk) 05:48, 8 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Godfather of Grappling? 

message: Tarantino himself asserts that Cliff Booth is entirely fiction, not based on anyone (in the cited article, no less): “It’s a fictional character. If I say Cliff Booth can beat Bruce Lee up, he’s a fictional character so he could beat Bruce Lee up,” 
If the dubious claim that LeBelle inspired Cliff Booth is going to be included, it should at least be cited with an article that doesn't contradict it. 
Joe Rogan's opinion is paraphrased, saying that it would make sense if Booth was based on LeBell, because LeBell was a legendary stuntman, "a judo champion," and friends with Bruce Lee (calls him a wonderful guy). Far be it from me to question the mighty Joe Rogan, but: The Cliff Booth character is not friends with Bruce Lee (calls him a "little prick") not a judo champion, not a legendary stunt man, and has "no apparent martial arts training." He's an out-of-work stuntman who lives in a trailer and maybe killed his own wife.
Sounds like Lebell would be embarrassed to be associated with cliff booth.  
Jfoessay (talk) 04:06, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Served as an inspiration for does not mean based on or the only inspiration for the character Samurai Kung fu Cowboy (talk) 16:56, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The inspiration for Cliff Booth in "Once Upon a Time...in Hollywood"? 

message: "He worked on over 1,000 films and TV shows" - imdb lists 447. 2001:56A:FB29:D600:613D:6413:460F:EE4E (talk) 07:16, 11 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Credits

message: Judo Gene, Father of the MMA, The king of Martial Arts, MR Stunt man, King of stunts, The star maker. 50.102.147.20 (talk) 00:04, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Known nicknames