Talk:Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic

message: It's clear these were a sham and a mockery because non-Communists were excluded. But since no one else was running, and since turnout was low, might not the 94.7% figure be fairly accurate? Or was there in fact a much higher rate of blank/spoilt ballots?
Also - a rhetorical question - did anything happen in the LSSR from 1940 until the 1980s? Because from this article, it would seem not. Biruitorul Talk 17:36, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Since they claim LvSSR was not really Latvia, probably all of Latvia's history between 1940-1990 studied is just the history of that hand of people who called themselves Lv gvt in exile.Xasha (talk) 22:17, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: 1940 elections

message: This is a strange page, because every other Soviet Socialist Republic page ('cept the Estonian SSR) doesn't mention anything like this.
First, it wasn't "backed" by the Soviet Union, it was clearly both de facto and de jure within the Soviet Union as a Soviet Socialist Republic. Secondly, it was not "on" the territory of the Republic of Latvia, for all intents and purposes it succeeded the Republic of Latvia. It's like saying that the Socialist Republic of Vietnam is a state "on the territory" of the Republic of Vietnam. There was no civil war or massive rebellion that persisted throughout the SSR's existence to such an extent that the SSR can be merely "on the territory" of the Latvian Republic. It was clearly in control of every area it claimed to be in control of for 40+ years. And finally (the most damaging), Latvian men and women from exile did not suddenly enter the Latvian SSR in 1991 and overthrow the government. Instead the Latvian SSR was renamed and declared independent, just like every other SSR and even the Russian SFSR. The way the article makes it sound, Anatolijs Gorbunovs and Ivars Godmanis would have been executed as a collaborationist traitors to the Republic along with many others as order is restored by freedom fighters.
So either we revert this page to the same status as the Lithuanian SSR page, or we note that the occupation was seen as illegal according to international law but that the Soviets clearly had de facto control and ownership over the territory. --Mrdie (talk) 02:09, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Same as Estonia, never de jure. PetersV <SMALL><SMALL>     </SMALL> TALK</SMALL> 06:01, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Concur with Peters. Martintg (talk) 19:55, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "backed by Soviet Union on the territory of Republic of Latvia" 

message: On 4 May, 1990 Latvian SSR was renamed "Republic of Latvia". Despite the central power of the USSR in Moscow continued to regard declared "Republic of Latvia" as Soviet republic in 1990-1991 the name "Latvian SSR" was not used in official documents in 1991.--Pirags (talk) 08:22, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Disestablishment in 1990/1991

message: This article contains several misspellings and instances of bad grammar, e.g. "Soviet army personal present in the country was allowed to vote too". I would wp:FIX IT, but most of the misspelt assertions are also unreferenced, and I suspect they may need to be removed or given more comprehensive cleanup than I have time to give them. -sche (talk) 23:21, 19 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: How about identifying the unreferenced assertions with an inline tag, that would be the useful thing to do, and wouldn't take any time at all. --Nug (talk) 11:57, 15 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar, spelling 

message: , your change has been reverted so therefore please discuss your proposed change on talk per WP:BRD. The template style guide is clear, "If the predecessor and successor are the same, and this predecessor/successor continued to exist during this period", the State continuity of the Baltic states is well established, the Estonian government-in-exile is not relevant to that continuity as discussed in the sources, and in fact Latvia and Lituania had no "government-in-exile". --Nug (talk) 19:45, 30 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox changes 

message: Without the previous and successor flags, anyone reading the article can not see/navigate the previous and successor, the Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic's predecessor was the Republic of Latvia (the Republic before 1940) then the Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic was under the German occupation. Then the Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic was succeeded the German occupation, and the present day Republic of Latvia is the successor to the Latvian Soviet Socialist Republic.
Elevatorrailfan (talk) 02:22, 1 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: It is confusing to have Republic of Latvia and Reichskommissariat Ostland being both the predecessor and successor of the Latvian SSR, that is why the infobox guide says not to have them if the predecessor and successor are identical. The history of Latvian template is already there to help navigation. --Nug (talk) 18:49, 3 December 2014 (UTC)

text: The Latvian republic was neither predecessor nor successor to the Latvian SSR. Both it and Reichskommissariat Ostland were foreign occupations of Latvia. For this article, there should only be the SSR flag indicating the periods during which Latvia was under Soviet occupation/defacto administration. Anything else is a mishmosh mixing occupations and legitimate sovereignty. VєсrumЬа ►TALK 02:34, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  I corrected the timespan to be discontinuous. Two powers can't simultaneously occupy the same territory. VєсrumЬа ►TALK 16:55, 7 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of flags 

message: On 4 May, 1990 Latvian SSR was renamed to "Republic of Latvia". Despite the central power of the USSR in Moscow continued to regard declared "Republic of Latvia" as Soviet republic in 1990-1991 the name "Latvian SSR" was not used in official documents in 1991.--Pirags (talk) 08:22, 27 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disestablishment in 1990 

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message: I would like to work to clean and refine this article, which I think is very important.  I don't want to do such a big job alone and unilaterally.  I would appreciate the help of anyone willing to do so. Flibbertigibbets (talk) 01:05, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Per the teahouse a more experienced editor suggested that I can start on my own, which I am going to do incrementally as to afford others input. Flibbertigibbets (talk) 11:26, 31 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:   I Would like to work on cleanup.. I am looking for other editors to help 

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