Template talk:Purge

message: This template is protected, and should be tagged with , or another suitable protection template. Thanks – Qxz 19:33, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. – Luna Santin (talk) 02:33, 16 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Done. Cheers. --MZMcBride 20:53, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested edit 

message: Dear administrator, please add the following interwiki links:
 es:Plantilla:Purgar
 ia:Patrono:Purgar
Thank you in advance, Julian 02:29, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. CMummert · talk 04:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interwiki links 

message: Please change the link Wikipedia:Transclusion costs and benefits to Wikipedia:Transclusion. /SvNH 23:22, 9 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: , per WP:R2D. עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 07:00, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I confused this template with another where the link text included "costs and benefits". /SvNH 19:35, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link 

message: Change this:

<span class="plainlinks" id="purgelink">[{{fullurl:{{FULLPAGENAME}}|action=purge}} {{{1|Purge}}}]</span><noinclude>
{{documentation}}
<!-- Add categories and interwikis to the /doc subpage, not here! -->
</noinclude>

To this:

<span class="plainlinks" id="purgelink">[{{fullurl:{{{page|{{FULLPAGENAME}}}}}|action=purge}} {{{1|Purge}}}]</span><noinclude>
{{documentation}}
<!-- Add categories and interwikis to the /doc subpage, not here! -->
</noinclude>

This is to add the page= parameter to the template so that a different page can be specified (i.e.  and ).
--Lightsup55 ( T | C ) 08:58, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done--Aervanath (talk) 09:20, 28 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit protect request: add parameter 

message: 
Please remove "id="purgelink"" because it disallows color to be used to change the color of the "purge." I wish to change the color to blue so it doesn't look like an external link. MathCool10 Sign here! 19:49, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think the presence of the id has anything to do with this, though the id should be removed because there is no guarantee that this will be only used once per page. As a side note, it's usually best to let links have their default color, rather than forcing them to have a particular color. --- RockMFR 01:07, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  I don't see the point of changing the default color; it looks more natural anyways.  -download | sign! 21:27, 8 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove '''id="purgelink"''' 

message: I have added the title "purge this page" to the "" (current version:) link. This changed version is in the page . I think that the sanbox version is better. I request to anyone of the Admins to replace it. The source is given below. --Amit (Talk | Contribs) 12:54, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: How does that help? I don't see any difference. MathCool10 Sign here! 00:37, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Oh, I see now, but it's not that useful. MathCool10 Sign here! 00:38, 8 April 2009 (UTC)

text: . — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 09:41, 24 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Is it really worth it? Why would you want to specify title=no? I think it might be better just to decide whether to have the span title or not. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 21:07, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The span title is useful in most situations, but in some it isn't, such as . MC10 | Sign here! 02:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I still think it is not worth to complicate the code for such a trivial benefit. And I can't see why it would not be useful on  anyway (although that template does not even use this one currently!) — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 08:10, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I would tend to concur. If the title is found useful, it should be used everywhere. In the same spirit,  should probably have titles for all the other actions as well.Of course, I'm not really sure if the title is useful in the first place. If anything, it should explain what purging means. Amalthea 08:45, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Try what I changed it now. Force  as a parameter in order to have the span title. This causes little change to most purge links and still keeps the span title. MC10 | Sign here! 02:03, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding title 

message: It would be helpful if the span title added from the above discussion were a parameter with "purge this page" as default so that one could have some control over what that says and what function "purge this page" will accomplish (e.g. refreshing counts) as it may not be clear.  ProtectorServant (talk) 13:09, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Make span title editable 

message: Please change the link text from Purge to Refresh  and change the link annotation from  to  .  Reason: The present language is not sufficiently clear for readers who do not have a technical background.  Rationales:
# To a layperson, the plain English meaning of "purge" is to remove, get rid of, or expunge. This is not what is meant with respect to content to which this template is applied.
# To speak of purging the cache describes a technical means to an end. The proximate end is to bypass or refresh the cache but the true end, from the reader's perspecitve, is to render a fresh, updated version of the page.
# Although there is a distinction in technical parlance between merely refreshing a page view and refreshing the source from which the page is loaded, readers who are familiar with this distinction are unlikely to be misled if it is labeled "Refresh" but readers who are not aware of it may be baffled when it is labeled "Purge."
Thank you. ~ Ningauble (talk) 14:32, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "Purge" has been used in its present, idiomatic sense on Wikipedia for years. See WP:PURGE. There is a distinction between "refreshing" a page and "purging" it. This really needs discussed before any changes are made, so disabling the request for now. It may be best getting a wider discussion going at the Village Pump. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward) (talk) 15:54, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ok, this will need discussion because it has indeed been used here for a long time. It is one of those little things that make Wikipedia seem geeky to the general public. (Confession: I am a retired geek. My request is not meant to be anti-geek, but to better serve the reading public.) I am well aware of WP:PURGE and the distinction you refer to, as indicated in my point #3 above.  To amplify on point 3:   A reader might wonder why there is a "Refresh" button on the page when their browser already has a refresh function. They might assume it is something related but different. They might surmise that it is something specific to the time-sensitive information being displayed. They might try their browser's function and be disappointed by the result. The might try the link and find it (surprise) more refreshing. These remarks apply equally well to those who are, and who are not, conversant with the caching architecture used on Wikimedia's servers. The same cannot be said for "Purge". A little ambiguity, when it is not misleading, is far better than jargon that signifies little to the uninitiated.  To amplify on points 1 and 2:   "Purging the cache" is a self reference to the infrastructure that serves Wikipedia's content. "Purge" is not an apt description of the action a reader would intend to perform on the content they are viewing, unless their intent is quite different from what the link does. To be clear, I am thinking about the perspective of a general reader who might wonder why they would want to "get rid of" the content, and is not thinking about, or even aware of, getting rid of cached data behind it.  (For contributors, who need to find the applicable template, it might be good to mention it in the lede section of WP:REFRESH because it is somewhat buried in the page.)  I considered "Update" instead of "Refresh", which some websites use for this purpose, but I thought it could be confusing in a context where most pages are peppered with "[edit]" links. I would be open to other suggestions for plain English words that commonly denote the action an ordinary reader would intend to perform on the content they are viewing.  I am posting a note at WP:VP and WP:PURGE to solicit community review this idea. ~ Ningauble (talk) 19:48, 29 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, what language do you propose?  As I just pointed out, "Refresh" is a non-starter in mainspace anyway, so it will still need to be overridden.  Everyone already knows what "purge" means in projectspace, and in mainspace it needs to be on a case-by-case basis anyway, so there's nothing wrong with the current language.  --NYKevin @881, i.e. 20:09, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request: plain language 

message: Would anyone object to me changing  to ?  I'd like to be able to insert custom CSS into this link.  --Chris (talk) 17:34, 16 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Class/style template parameters 

message: The tooltip (span title) "Purge this page" is incorrect when the "page=" parameter is used.  It should be deleted in that case or replaced with something correct. Set theorist (talk) 05:35, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Span title is wrong when page parameter used 

message: i think that cloudy176 ref from here, still thanks to that user. http://googology.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Tools lol.Jiawhein (talk) 00:57, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Others

message: Why does this template use a module. Can someone help me out. VarunFEB2003 (talk) 11:52, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Module

message: Is it just me or it is normal for purge buttons not to work? I have been updating content on this portal now and the subpages I am transcluding on it, despite being updated are not reflecting. Danidamiobi (talk) 18:34, 11 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Are you sure you're doing it right? Based on your edits, it looks like maybe you were trying to update the main portal page by purging the subpages and not the portal page itself. Anyway, I made a few edits to the subpages and most of the changes were reflected on the (draft) portal page by simply reloading it. The one time that didn't work, I purged the main portal page (Draft:Portal:African cinema) and the changes became visible there. In other words, "works for me". - dcljr (talk) 00:35, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you so much. I sincerely appreciate you for painstakingly coming to my aid.  Danidamiobi (talk) 11:40, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purge button not working 

message: This template uses Module:Purge. Is there any reason it should not be updated to use Special:Purge instead? Note that Template:Purge box, Template:Purge button, and Template:Purge page all use the special page, whereas Template:Purge link portals and User:UBX/Purge use this template, which relies on the module. - dcljr (talk) 00:53, 12 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Special:Purge