Talk:Holyoke Publishing

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message: NOTE: If it helps, here is what GCD says at http://www.comics.org/publisher/92/
"Holyoke was originally a printer, and was owned by Sherman Bowles. It became a publisher by taking over both titles published by Frank Z. Temerson's Helnit Publishing Co. Helnit's editorial staff (most notably principal artist Charles Quinlan) came with the titles and continued to produce both books. Slightly later, Holyoke also acquired Blue Beetle from the now-defunct Fox Publications and continued it with slightly different contents, some produced by the editorial staff inherited from Helnit. 
"Holyoke lost the Helnit books after cover date January 1943. Temerson would resume publishing them himself several months later. They retained Blue Beetle until 1944, at which point Victor Fox regained control of Blue Beetle through court action. Holyoke essentially relaunched the series two months later as Sparkling Stars, consisting of Blue Beetle's backup features which had never been published by Fox. 
"The so-called 'Holyoke One-Shots' are included here mostly by convention. They are really repackaging of early Temerson material (from Helnit, Tem and possibly other companies). They have absolutely no title, printing, publication or copyright information printed on them, and may well have been produced by someone other than either Temerson or Holyoke. However, Mike Tiefenbacher pinned the name on them several decades ago and it has stuck. The two "Veri Best" titles are also unconfirmed as Holyoke, but at least one of them seems to reprint Holyoke material. 
"Site visitors may also want to look at the publisher entry for Temerson / Helnit / Continental, which goes into more detail about those companies and several others that were or were thought to be related to Temerson and Holyoke: 
http://www.comics.org/publisher/129/ 
"This essay built on research by Frank Motler, Bob Hughes, Jim Vadeboncoeur, Jr., Hames Ware, Henry Andrews and other GCD and Digital Comic Museum contributors."
--Tenebrae (talk) 22:46, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: GCD

message: Too bad that the new improved article on Holyoke was removed. It was certainly the best article on them that I've read in the 40+ years that I've been reading (and writing) articles on golden age comics.  Certainly tons better than the grossly inaccurate thing that's back up.  WhozWho is new, and it looks like some of this may be fresh research. if so,  I suggest WW that you sell the article to AlterEgo rather than give away free for Wikipedia.  Then someone can quote you to improve this article.  grin.   Great job, go get paid for it!
Sangorshop 23:33, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: As a fellow comics historian, I appreciate your passion for the subject. I really would ask you to look at the four items under "Some notes" above. The "improved" article has some very questionable and problematic citations. I'm sure that must concern you; I'd be very surprised if you did not find these things troubling.--Tenebrae (talk) 01:21, 28 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Too bad

message: I'm going to update the pages List of comics publishing companies and List of Golden Age of Comics publishers based on the cited confusions here.  Any disputes of the additional confused companies I recently added should probably follow to those pages as well. -- Ixat totep (talk) 00:56, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Related page updates