Talk:Silver Fish Award

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replies: text: This is a weak B-class. To keep this rating, please act on suggestions--the PR script and a 'development of the award'. Rlevse 10:09, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Changes to headings made as recommended by peerreviewer script. Kingbird 15:51, 5 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recommendations from the peerreviewer script 

message: Did she get the silver fish twice?  Once under the original system according to one source and again in 1920 according to another?  --Erp 19:50, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you may be on to something! Although it sounds weird at first, there isn't actually any reason why this shouldn't be the case. I've re-checked both sources. I see no reason to doubt their accuracy. They are clearly referring to the same woman. So why not? Kingbird 15:08, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a picture of her at http://www.1st-crowborough-beavers-cubs-scouts.org.uk/i.asp?page=NestaMaude in the, I suspect, Guide uniform of the time.  --Erp 21:56, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nesta Ashworth aka Nesta Maude 

message: I think I've encountered a bit of a problem with this article.  Namely that the Silver Fish is not the top award and does not have a single awarding body.  WAGGGS World Board has its own award called, very unimaginatively, the WAGGGS' Medal.  It can be at either bronze or silver medal
The WAGGGS' Medal is given to express gratitude to selected leaders,
members and non-members who have distinguished themselves in their
unstinting service to Girl Guiding/Girl Scouting at both national and
world levels.
Criteria: The Medal is given to individuals for outstanding service to
the Movement. It is awarded when the service is of such an exceptional
nature that there is no other appropriate manner with which to honour
the recipient. It can also be awarded to a man or woman outside the
Movement who has given outstanding service to, and for the benefit of,
WAGGGS. The silver medal is the highest accolade. The medal may be
worn at any time.
The Silver Fish seems to be the top national award for many Guiding associations, most notably the UK (and/or the Commonwealth) and predates the formation of WAGGGS so for a while was the top award.  Even after WAGGGS was formed I don't know when it started issuing its own award (the earliest recipient that I can find is 1999).  It is possible that the Silver Fish as an adult award was under the direct control of Lord and Lady Baden-Powell until quite late in the latter's life. In addition not all Guiding associations use the Silver Fish (India uses the Silver Elephant [note that India is both a WOSM and WAGGGS member] and Australia seems to have switched to the Southern Cross or possibly the Silver Kangaroo and I'm not sure what the GSUSA uses). 
I think this means we need to rearrange this article but I'm not sure how.  Some ideas
*retain this article for the top awards national and international.  Have the history of the Silver Fish, include a list of the top awards and some key recipients within each association by country (I will note in at least one case a person has received top awards from two different countries).  Have a section on the WAGGGS' medal and a list of known recipients of it.  
*similar except the WAGGGS' Medal is discussed in the World Board article (the World Board being responsible for giving it). 
In either case the article may have to be retitled.  Choices include
*Top National Girl Guide and Girl Scouts Adult awards
*Silver Fish and other top national Girl Guide and Girl Scouts Adult awards
Other thoughts? More research is definitely needed.--Erp 23:47, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that each award should have its own article (with the article called by the award's name). These can be united by a "List of…" page or a category. I've found a couple of sentences about the Silver Fish in the USA, so I've added this to the article. Kingbird 16:50, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silver Fish or Top WAGGGS award 

message: Two of the Silver Fish recipients, Lady Cochrane and Lady Davies, have no info to distinguish which Lady Cochrane or Lady Davies.   I think the latter is  Lady Davies wife of David Davies, 1st Baron Davies and the donor of Broneirion which is used by  Girlguiding Cymru, but, we need a source.  I not sure which Lady Cochrane is the first. --Erp (talk) 04:45, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who are?