Talk:Peter Green (musician)

message: I don't see a major problem with leaving that link on there, since Peter Green does occasionally play with that band.  It's not just a spam link, and no, I have no connection with it at all. Bretonbanquet 17:26, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Joe Green's Connection

message: I deleted some sort of box thing saying the following:
of the World" and "Albatross". He wrote the song "Black Magic Woman" that was eventually picked up by Santana.
Seemed a bit weird and I didn't know what to make out of it. anyone any idea?NJlo 10:10, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That was left behind when someone came along and deleted great chunks of the article!  Why he left that small part behind, I've no idea - maybe he'd like to come on and tell us.  I've reverted the article to how it was before he butchered it. Bretonbanquet 18:17, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  weird box thang 

message: For an article that begins by referring so strongly to his unique tone and the Les Paul that allowed him to get that tone, we have picture of him playing... a Fender. Is there nothing better available - i.e., Green playing the Les Paul? (or is there at least a picture of this famous guitar?)
Albatross was played with a strat, probably his most famous piece.  I do agree that his guitar is iconic though and deserves a place in this article.--86.20.223.168 21:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture Choice

message: The repeated vandalism of this page by person or persons unknown is beginning to get irritating. The issue of Green's nationality has been discussed at length above but whoever keeps on changing the page seems unwilling to explain their rationale. Can anything be done to prevent them continuing? Bluewave 16:45, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They can be reported as vandals, if someone has the energy, but there are enough of us reverting this rubbish, both here and at John McVie, Jeremy Spencer etc etc that it's not a great hardship. Their total failure to discuss anything at all means it's a clear-cut case of vandalism. Bretonbanquet 22:39, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Repeated vandalism

message: The line "Widely hailed as the greatest blues player ever to hail from Britain" was changed to "Widely hailed as one of the greatest  blues players ever to hail from Britain". This change is cheapening Peter Green's legacy. The original sentence was quite accurate, as many people do believe he was the greatest blues player ever to come out of Britain, but the new sentence sounds like its limiting his scope and ability. I would say either remove the reference to Britain in the second sentence, or revert it back to the original. (unsigned comment left who knows when?)
: The proper NPOV is "one of" - many people would argue that Clapton is the greatest - see?  74.37.205.28 (talk) 23:34, 13 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: POV statement

message: The second paragraph under "John Mayall's Bluesbreakers" in the Biography section has a typo.  The sentence 'If featured two compositions by Green, "The Same Way" and "The Supernatural".' should begin with 'It'. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Robert Ham (talk • contribs) 02:28, May 13, 2007
: Done Harryboyles 00:20, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo correction 

message: The name of Green's new band was Fleetwood Mac. Originally billed as "Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac"; it originated from the band's rhythm section that consisted of Mick Fleetwood and John McVie.
While the name Fleetwood Mac does come from Fleetwood and McVie it is not because these two were the rythm section of the band when it was formed.  The founding basist was Bob Brunning although Peter Green had tried to recruit John McVie and apparently still hoped that he would join.  The name was originally of an instrumental recorded by the members of John Mayall's Bluesbreakers without John Mayall.  Peter Green liked the name and thopught that it would make a good name for a band.
Also the band was actually billed as "Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac featuring Jeremy Spencer" so that all members had a mention.
:The instrumental "Fleetwood Mac" was recorded by Green, Fleetwood and McVie on 19/4/67, and Green named it after Fleetwood and McVie. It was this session that inspired Green to form a band with that rhythm section, and that name. When McVie didn't want to join, Brunning joined just as a temporary measure. Bretonbanquet 23:41, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The name "Fleetwood Mac"

message: So where is Peter Green now ?
:The last I heard he had moved to Sweden in 2004 - actually I believe the present article's wording does point this out. Apart from that - who knows ?!
:Derek R Bullamore 20:50, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Where is he now

message: 38th in the 100 greatest guitarists list which is, and has always been, POV; adding 'according to Rolling Stone' does not change it. The article about the list has been deleted and the link now leads to a vague mention. There are improvements in wikipedia, really. al 09:51, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: ? This ranking is highly regarded and even if the opinion is opinionated (which it is, by definition), that doesn't alter the fact that a bunch of knowledgeable people came up with this ranking and it is notable. Drmies (talk) 15:25, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  removed 38th place 

message: Perhaps someone can dig up a reference to Cozy Powell's role other than drummer in the founding of the Splinter Group. Green's relationship with Nigel Watson is well documented, because of Watson's sister and the Clifford Davis connection. All that I can find about the Powell connection is a leading question by an interviewer that Green didn't answer: http://www.terrascope.co.uk/MyBackPages/Peter%20Green%20interview.htm
PT: Is this a long-term band?
PG: Yeah, unless something kind of tragic happens. I don’t know Spike [keyboard player] very well at all. I know Nigel. I don’t know Cozy (Powell, drums) or Neil (bass) but they seem like they’re encouraging. Can’t understand why.
PT: Cozy Powell has been particularly supportive and has helped get things together for you?
PG: I saw Cozy at the Brian May concert at Wembley. He did a big drum solo. All his drums. Different music to us, he only uses a few bits with us. The bare necessities, which is all you need for a blues band. If you had a lot of drums you’d be wasting your time really. That’s quite interesting. He can be very impressive with something when you’re not expecting it. And Neil, too, can come out with something. Some things he does on the bass are lovely.
Vytal 03:49, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was a BBC documentary from 96, in which Powell, Watson and Green got in the studio and recorded a version of "Walk Don't Run". Powell was practically running the show, trying to get Peter into a position where the session could be run in a sensible and productive way. I'll try and get more of a reference as soon as I can. Bretonbanquet 10:45, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cozy Powell

message: Rainer Langhans, former member of a well known German commune, mentions in an article and in his autobiography (February 2008) that he and his former girl-friend Uschi Obermaier met Peter Green in Munich, where they invited him to their (then well known) "High-Fish-Commune".
Langhans and Obermaier were not really interested in Peter Green. They just wanted to get in contact with Mick Taylor.
Langhans and Obermaier wished to organize a "Bavarian Woodstock". They wanted Jimi Hendrix and "The Rolling Stones" to be the leading acts of their Bavarian open air festival. They needed the "Green God" just to get in contact with "The Rolling Stones" via Mick Taylor.
Read more about it, in the "Rolling Stone"-Forum (in German):
Greens Trauma-Nacht mit deutschen Kommunarden 1970.
By the way: Rainer Langhans' girl-friend Christa Ritter tells she's gonna make a movie about Peter Green's Munich accident: Peter Green’s (Ex-Fleetwood Mac) Trauma-Nacht mit deutschen Kommunarden 1970. --Popmuseum (talk) 08:06, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: think this should be the Munich Incident not Accident Dot18 (talk) 01:25, 27 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, yes you're right. --Popmuseum (talk) 16:23, 14 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Munich Incident 

message: There have been repeated modifications to the section referring to his out of phase pickup, or rather the reference in the first section. There is plenty of documentation and proof that the pickup is magnetically out of phase. Even today it has been examined and this has proven the case.
This recent amendment is out, the pickup had shielded wire which makes it difficult to wire out of phase without atmospheric interference:
TonyMillerLive (Talk | contribs) m (9,669 bytes) (Reversing the pickup magnet would not create the sound. Reversing the electrical connections would) (undo) 
In fact I can confim that this modification does work as will countless references to forums and studies across the internet and in published literature. I will concede that a reverse wound pickup would produce the same effect; remember the humbucker contains two coils that are already out of phase with each other in series but this effect deals with two pairs of coils i.e. two for the neck and two for the bridge. Given that each pickup has a north polarised coil (rather the slugs/screws) and a south coil it is very possible to reverse the polarity by flipping the magnet underneath them. 
Here are some references but I do not intend editing this again until this can be resolved in the discussion area. In fact I would be happy to settle for saying the pickup was out of phase and leave the details out.
  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.120.161.6 (talk) 16:36, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: (Edited my own comment, missed out on detail...no longer required as it doesn't make sense) 78.16.117.249 (talk) 20:25, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed that statement from the lede and placed it in a new 'tone' section--with documentation from Vintage Guitar. Drmies (talk) 15:23, 18 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Out of Phase Pickup

message: Claims regarding mental illness ALL need citing and so does the "living like a tramp" bit. Tom Green (talk) 18:30, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Already partially cited, but it's very common knowledge and laid out in the biographies, notably the Celmins book. It seems a little superfluous to just cite every other sentence. Bretonbanquet (talk) 18:33, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not acceptable to say that it's commonly known or stated elsewhere. If you're going to say someone lived as a tramp and effectively lost his mind, then yes, each of those statements does require a citation. Tom Green (talk) 21:02, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well if you actually looked, you'd see that they already do. Bretonbanquet (talk) 22:13, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversial statements 

message: No mention is made of the fact that the Fleetwood Mac recordings were produced by the same producer that John Mayall used - Mike Vernon.  He had his own label, Blue Horizon, which also produced other bands of the era such as Chicken Shack. Mike Vernon also ran a blues club out of an upstairs room in a pub in York Road, Battersea during the 1968/9 period, and I was fortunate enough to see Fleetwood Mac perform there several times.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.213.98.17 (talk) 15:55, 30 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Record Labels

message: Check out this news of the guys today  Earthlyreason (talk) 17:38, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: See this

message: In the early 90's a hoaxer claiming to be Peter Green managed to get himself some press. Most notably a long interview with 'Guitarist' Magazine in 1994, the cover was a Fleetwood Mac era photo of Green. The whole scam started to unravel not long after. Surely this should be included as a footnote as well as some fact checking that all information presented about Green from that early to mid 90's era is accurate about Peter and not information from the fake Peter. Theladfromtheeast (talk) 08:42, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, this episode does need to be included - it needs to be very carefully referenced though. It's a wiki-bio nightmare. There's some info in the official biography, I think. Bretonbanquet (talk) 12:31, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Fake Peter

message: Added with strong references. --Scieberking (talk) 07:48, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guitarists Influenced by Peter Green 

message: Per WP:External links, links to social networking pages should be avoided. An exception to this is to allow official web sites maintained by the subject of the page, and giving further information about the subject. If the link to Facebook in this article is Green's official page, it can remain; otherwise, it should be removed. Cnilep (talk) 16:41, 2 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Linking to Facebook 

message: Why is it spelled "Super-Natural" and not "supernatural"? Isn't the song supernatural?
71.170.125.164 (talk) 04:04, 11 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Super-Natural?

message: Apparently hes had to cancel several gigs due to hospitalisation, no more information other than "hes been taken ill and issues will be refunded on the tickets" just an update not going to put it in the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.218.142.211 (talk) 11:08, 31 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Hospitalisation

message: 62.202.66.72 (talk) 21:26, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a very murky area, which I think is why there's no clarity in the article. The issues between Green, Watson and the Guardianship Office were not particularly clear at any point, and finding a reliable source which actually has all the facts will be difficult. According to some, Watson was a relatively untalented guy who was using Green to make money. According to others, Green would never have made a comeback without Watson. There's probably truth in both those points of view, although it seems the PGO saw a mentally unstable guy being used. Finding the accurate, citable truth would be hard - there are a lot of seemingly reliable sources contradicting each other, including family members. Certainly though, a basic outline of the reasons for Green leaving the PGSG would be a good addition to the article. Bretonbanquet (talk) 23:53, 9 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  I placed just a reference next to the cancellation/move to Sweden sentence in a bid to avoid a descent to tabloid reporting. As you say there are many unknowns - and I don't want to "get a story" out of Peter Green at any price - especially if it is another price he has to pay. At different levels: the Papers want a story - Watson may have seen an advantage for himself - but equally we would like to have Peter Green "back" in some way - live onstage, on show. I'm not sure if he really should be asked to do any of these things. Gentle soul under pressure.62.202.66.72 (talk) 10:29, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, especially about avoiding tabloid reporting. It would be easy for this story to descend to that level with all kinds of recriminations, none of which will help Peter. Let's hope it doesn't go that way. Bretonbanquet (talk) 01:18, 11 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Leaving the Splinter Group and the Public Guardianship Office 

message: This crawdaddy article  adds some good material on what was going on back then. Im not sure how to add it yet.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 18:39, 24 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Good reference

message: Can anyone supply a reference to say that Peter Green played the harp? This is listed in the infobox, but I wonder if it's a mistake from the fact that he played the "harp" a.k.a. "blues harp" i.e. harmonica...? --Kyuzo2000 (talk) 22:45, 22 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Harp 

message: I recently watched the 2011 BBC documentary "Peter Green: Man of the World", and I'm sure I heard Mike Green say that it was Len, his older brother, who gave Peter his first guitar. It was originally his, but on fnding he was "tone-deaf", he gave it to Peter, and taught him his first three chords, specifically E, A, and B7.
I'm too new to edit stuff but I thought I'd make a note here at least. Changeling616 (talk) 03:58, 9 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter Green's first guitar 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: He's out from spotlight and never returned since Peter Green and Friends tour in 2010 so maybe "years active" paragraph should corrected to 1997-2010?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.234.5.252 (talk) 08:55, 3 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  retired? 

message: his death should be under the main page's 'featured names' in the Recent Deaths section .... he's well-known - much better known than a lot of the linked names on the Main page 50.111.38.72 (talk) 00:13, 26 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: should be nominated for Main Page

message: * Peter Green - The Munich Incident (Peter's son interviews Rainer Langhans). --Popmuseum (talk) 07:32, 30 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peter Green - The Munich Incident (Peter's son interviews Rainer Langhans) 

message: Surprisingly, I'm not really finding a great source for it in the article. Considering that it's such a well-known statement, that's a bit weak. Isn't it possible to find the actual source of where B.B. said it? Furthermore, the third source given (Rich Robinson) has nothing to do with this remark. Not sure why the reference is there. Jules TH 16 (talk) 12:10, 7 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The B.B. King quote