Talk:Compound verb

message: This article needs definitions of some of its terms. Just put yourself in place of someone who has come across the term "compound verb" but knows nothing about it. Do you really think this article is easy to understand? Why don't you explicate each "difficult" term as you go along. Terms such as 'argument structure', 'aspects' (as in this context), 'agreement marker', 'complex predicates', etc., need to be consulted elsewhere by anyone who doesn't know what they mean. Don't forget you are not addressing your linguistic peers and colleagues. Your article reads like an essay to a linguistic journal not an encyclopaedic article. I think a clearer style would be appreciated. Many thanks. Dieter Simon 01:17, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The article may not be understood by everybody

message: When I first started reading this article, I thought it was referring to auxiliary verbs, which (apparently) it isn't. This distinction ought to be made, preferably in the introduction. RobertM525 (talk) 10:58, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contrast to auxiliary verb 

message: I came to this article expecting to see a discussion of multi-word verbs, such as "has seen", "can swim", "is going", etc.  My impression is that this is a standard usage of "compound verb" in both the linguistics literature and in English, other Germanic, and Romance grammars.  Instead the article is about "compound verbs" in a different sense.  At the top is a no-references tag, but someone has added a single reference -- an internet link to a University of Ottawa site that agrees with my definition and therefore conflicts with the one used in the article.  So there is still no literature support for what the article contains, even though the article has been there since 2003.  And the first paragraph of the English section seems to imply, without stating explicitly, that my concept of "compound verb" is correct in the context of English, even though this implication conflicts with the rest of the article.
Can someone put in several citations that give the article's definition in the context of languages in general, as well as some citations for the specific languages dealt with?  In addition, I think that the intro should at least recognize that there is an alternative use of the term.  75.183.96.242 (talk) 20:31, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The real problem is of course, that not enough sources have been cited all round in this article. However, the examples you are referring to are in fact shown in the "English" section, namely those that combine verb+auxiliary verb formations. By all means why not build on that. The only thing "compound verb" is not really very suitable for V+A constructions. The real compound verb should be that where original nouns, adjectives or adverbs combine with verbs, such as "to sideline", "to skyjack", "to highjack", or even one composed of two nouns, such as "to signpost". In that respect a compound verb is not very different from a compound noun, such as "highstreet", or even "one-way ticket". Dieter Simon (talk) 23:17, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Serious problem with entire article

message: There is a large number of examples of Japanese compound verbs which is great, but perhaps the bulk of them should be moved to a separate article so they don't disrupt the flow of the article too much 12:08, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move long list of Japanese compound verbs into separate article 

message: Although the article is correct in saying that the form "" can be used to express "regret" or "mistake" in Japanese, it can also be used to express "completeness" or "already done" in a more neutral way.
For example, "" can mean both "I ate it (and now feel bad)" implying some feeling of regret and "I ate it (so there's none left)" implying that there is simply no more of "it" left, i.e., it has already been (completely) eaten. Same goes for "": It can mean "I (mistakenly) fell in love", but it also can mean "I (completely) fell in love" or "I've already fallen in love" without any feeling of regret.
Since how "shite shimau" is interpreted depends so much on context, this article is probably not the best place to hold a detailed discussion on Japanese grammar. It might, however, be OK just to simply mention this other use of "shite shimau" without going into too much detail. I'm interested in hearing what others think. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 02:34, 28 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese:  Using "{{nihongo|-shite shimau|～してしまう}}" 

message: I'm not sure if the verb "" is the best one to use for introducing the "" construction. I don't think I've ever heard a Japanese person say "" when trying to say "try to love". I have heard "" for "can't you love/like me" in some very informal situations or on TV, but not sure how common (or correct) that even is. "Try to love" sounds more English than Japanese, at least it does to me. Maybe it would be better to use an example that is more common such as "" instead? I'm interested in hearing what others think. Thanks in advance. - Marchjuly (talk) 05:43, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese: "{{nihongo|-shite miru|～してみる}}