Talk:Sven Hassel

message: I only got to read Legion of the Damned (LotD) after reading several of Hassel's later books, and came away with the impression that later books were expanded and fictionalized by comparison, and written as "genre" novels. LotD, by comparison, covered the whole of Hassel's (reported) military career, ending with his commission as a lieutenant, and seemed to have more of an autobiographical "ring of truth" about it. 
I don't have any of his books to hand at the moment, to make a new comparison, but I thought I should ask about it since the article makes no distinction between LotD and the later books. Does anyone else feel the same way?  -- Stereoroid 03:00, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Legion of the Dammed was by far his best work. Certainly it created a lot more empathy for its central character. Reading some of the other works I actually found myself hating most of its characters. Piercetp 05:58, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legion Of The Damned vs later books 

message: The opening paragraph states "Sven Hassel (born April 19, 1917) is a Danish-born soldier and writer who has written pseudo-autobiographical novels based on his experiences in World War II." According to his own biography at 
http://www.svenhassel.net/ he states that 
and the following year, due to the great unemplyment in Denmark, he joined the German army as a volunteer. Initially he served in the 2nd Cavalry Regiment and furthermore in the 11th and 27th "Panzerregiment". He fought in all the frontlines except in the North of Africa. Consequentialy Sven was wounded eight times. From 1945 to 1949 he was POW and was subject to Russian, American, French and Danish prisoner camps. 
But according to Eric Haaest (http://home.tiscali.dk/haaest/Hassel-Hazel/Texts/English/00table.htm) this is all not true. It seems that the article here tends to take the latter's point of view. Maybe this article should take on a more neutral tone. Just a thought. Piercetp 06:54, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who is telling the truth? 

message: Were his books ever published in German? Bastie 18:29, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  German 

message: How about some ISBNs?
: Die Galgenvögel. Roman. (Broschiert) 
: Verlag: Goldmann Wilhelm GmbH (1987)
: ISBN-10: 3442088771
: ISBN-13: 978-3442088775
amazon.de
Radu er (talk) 16:41, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  ISBNs 

message: From the current article:
"It is significant that some Hassel fans believe Eric Haaest's version of who Sven Hassel really is, while continuing to enjoy Hassel's books." 
What is so significant about that? There are probably other fans who like the books and don't care either way about the author. If your saying something is significant then you really should say why its significant.
: I agree. For many readers it doesn't matter if the author states "I did all that" and is lying (as Karl May) or "Of course I didn't do that" (as Asimov). What matters is the fun the reader's getting. Radu er (talk) 16:45, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Significance? 

message: I have copied this section from the talk page of User:Ferranrivas since it is relevant to the discussion regarding the recent edits to the article (the first paragraph is written by that user):
 I make specific changes to my clients.
Currently made ​​changes to the family of the writer Sven Hassel. Specifically, the request comes from her son and granddaughter, which I have indicated the changes to give more accuracy to Sven Hassel biographical text.
If necessary we can provide the necessary accreditations to require anyone who wants them, but the text and links we mention the author's website and other websites have posted news about the author.
I can prove my sources and I do reference to the websites where the same text is already published. What else you need to prove the veracity of my sources?
:Svendhassel.net is the homepage of the author, and thus a WP:primary source regarding his biography. A primary source can only be used to source the opinion of the author of that source, that is, their claim that it happened in that way. So anything sourced with that should be worded "Hassel claimed", "According to Hassel himself" etc, since it is not verifiable facts but opinions. Regarding the name missing from the Bovrup Registry, that is original research, since there can be a number of reasons why he doesn't appear in that list (it isn't an infallible document), so you would need a secondary reliable source (most likely that of an historian) that makes the claim that that fact would ivariable mean he never was a member of the party. Otherwise I could just as easily produce the court documents in the various criminal cases against Hassel the occurred during the war, proving that he spent most of his time in Denmark during those 5 years. But I can't according to policy, since that would also be WP:OR. I hope I have made the Wikipedia policies a bit clearer to you, they can be somewhat daunting. --Saddhiyama (talk) 09:42, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Upon reading your reply it seems that you are perhaps also in breach of the Wikipedia policies regarding conflict of interest, since you state that you edit on behalf of the family. You would perhaps be better off advising the relatives of Hassel to contact an author or historian, and get them to write a book on the subject using those accreditives you mention. That would (likely) be considered a reliable source in Wikipedia, but we can't engage in "correcting history" here ourselves. --Saddhiyama (talk) 09:46, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research 

message: I saw that the page title had the misspelling "Offical", but since the display text had the correct spelling, "Welcome to the Official Sven Hassel Site." as a title, it would be ok to use that. Do you disagree?  SchreiberBike | ⌨  23:42, 9 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Template:Cite_web#Title says "Title of source page on website". For some web-pages it is ambiguous which displayed text is supposed to be read as the title, so I usually go by the HTML <title> text (which a browser like Firefox renders on the tab + window frame). I guess in this case it can be said that the actual title text was supposed to be equal to the displayed text. If we choose to go with the displayed text, then we should update the comment that the misspelled HTML title is not shown due to the displayed text, to prevent future confusion. Maybe we wait a couple of days to see if others have an opinion. Lklundin (talk) 06:36, 10 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spelling fix 

message: Should this article use not only phone book records, but several different kinds of primary sources, as it does? Please take a look at the discussions above, at the sections "Original research" and "Phone and Address Records". - Nabla (talk) 02:39, 14 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Pinging everyone editing here in the last 50 edits, with at least an edit in the last year:  If I missed anyone, I am sorry and ask that you please fix it or warn me. - Nabla (talk) 02:41, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

text: I know the above question may be too broad, I am not used to this... So if we end up changing it soon, or closing the RfC with a way to ask it better, I would appreciate it too. - Nabla (talk) 02:45, 14 October 2017 (UTC)

text: Comment – I feel compelled to respond to what I consider a personal attack against me and my contributions. As such I would like to point out that for Wikipedia I have created dozens of historical, personal biographies and contributed to many more, in a fashion similar to this page and that 'the phone book' is a historical collection of the national postal museum of Denmark, who has seen fit to digitalize their archive expressly for the purpose of facilitating public access to it, to the benefit of for example Wikipedia. Lklundin (talk) 09:23, 15 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC on the use of primary sources 

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message: I have briefly skimmed discussions/RfCs below but it really is simple: read WP:PRIMARY, WP:OR and, inter alia, WP:SYNTH. I don't care how good some Wikipedia contributor might consider themselves to be as a genealogist, we simply don't rely on parish registers, census records, phone books etc. Feel free to write a biography, get it published by a mainstream, reliable publisher & then hope that someone else picks up that book and uses it to improve this article as a valid secondary source. Until you do that, please stop adding your research here. Thanks. - Sitush (talk) 23:29, 12 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research