Talk:Silybum

message: I added a line about the extract being used in Rockstar, because there was no mention of the plant's culinary uses.  I was not sure if there were any other products that used the ingredient or if it was the only one.SargeAbernathy 07:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess someone removed your Rockstar reference?  I think that was a great idea, as I came here from a link in the Rockstar article.  Also some mention that milk thistle is reported to help cure hangovers may be appropriate, though I'm not sure if there is any scientific proof to back that up.  MetaChimp 00:54, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: culinary

message: This article makes no mention of which parts of the plant are used for medicinal purposes. If all parts are used, it should state that and also which parts are most active (or contain the highest amounts of silymarin).
--24.165.10.183 (talk) 20:59, 22 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parts of the plant 

message: I would like to know where this plant can now be found world wide. The article mentions where Milk Thistle is originally native but not where it has since migrated/been transported.
Many thanks
Outofthewoods (talk) 20:41, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Info Please! 

message: This article should address the common belief that milk thistle can increase seminal (ejaculate) volume.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.76.254.102 (talk) 01:57, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Effect on semen volume 

message: From the edit history of particular contributor who has been adding things to add reference to consumerlabs.com, the purpose is rather clear to improve exposure for the company rather than encyclopedic. The topic of this article is milk thistle but the section goes into excess details about quality, testing and excess details into test results etc of manufactured products rather than milk thistle itself. Cantaloupe2 (talk) 21:31, 7 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Which editor were you referring to? I don't see a clear problem with WP:UNDUE. I also don't see a problem with Consumerlab as a source. I think the deletion was well intended but perhaps a bit too extreme, as there seemed to be quite a bit of relevant information contained therein. Perhaps we can work out a proposal to streamline the section a bit to resolve any weighting concerns. Rhode Island Red (talk) 16:11, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: this one Note how the editor has been inserting very similar things into many articles and this editor has never done anything on Wikipedia but ConsumerLab.com relevant stuff. It was deleted, because the pattern shows clear intent of WP:PROMO rather than to improve the article. The entire section focus excessively on politics surrounding manufactured products of milk thistle.  It is US-centric and ConsumerLab is based on its own proprietary arbitrary standards. Since puffery/advertisement contents are prohibited per WP:NOPAY and there seems to be clear and convincing evidence that there's clear WP:COI I think removal of this section was just. Cantaloupe2 (talk) 21:04, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the removal, and I think you have explained it very well. Joefromrandb (talk) 06:52, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't see "clear intent of WP:PROMO rather than to improve the article", but maybe I missed something. Consumer Lab meets the requirements for WP:RS so the source itself does not qualify as puffery/advertisement. Is there evidence of a violation of WP:NOPAY or WP:COI? If there is, the appropriate remedy would be to bring it the attention of the COI noticeboard for further action. Rhode Island Red (talk) 16:19, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: While it appears to me that Absander is here for the purpose of promoting the visibility of Consumerlab, I think there is a place for some of this content.  It is relevant and useful information, and I support the inclusion of some of this content, but probably much of the detail needs to be trimmed (per WP:UNDUE) if it is going to be re-added to the article.  Deli nk (talk) 16:42, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Supplement Quality and Concerns section 

message: History - Tamayo & Diamond (2007) (currently ref 13) state in their abstract that "Milk thistle extracts have been used as traditional herbal remedies for almost 2000 years" but give no justification at all in the content of their article (non-paywall). So that's not a source for the claim that silybum has been used since "ancient times" (where? when? Roman Empire? Han dynasty? Satavahana dynasty?) Boud (talk) 11:38, 23 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading source about history