Talk:Guru–shishya tradition

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I would like to change the title of this article to Guru-shishya relationship, now that I have done what I would call my last major new-article-edit.  Any comments or suggestions would be most appreciated.
Thanks,
Scott P. 00:20, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
:I have no problems as long as we do redirects from Guru-shishya tradition and Guru-shishya parampara. ≈ jossi ≈ 00:29, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
::Thanks, let's wait til tomorrow, and if no further suggestions, make the change.
::Scott P. 00:52, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
:::On second thoughts, the current title is more accurate. We could create redirects from Guru-shishya relationship and Guru-shishya parampara. 
::::Dear Jossi,
::::This article was intended to focus more on the psychological and belief aspects of the relationship rather than upon the traditional aspects of it, which would include the physical aspects of it.  While admittedly there is a large overlap of these two concepts, tradition and beliefs, still they are not entirely the same thing.  Also, as you will note, the contents of the article are focusing more on beliefs and psychology than they are upon exactly how these beliefs might now manifest, or have once manifested in the past, via tradition.  By changing the title of this article back to 'relationship', it would seem to me that this subtle, yet helpful shift of focus as originally intended will be achieved.  Your further comments on this, or anyone else's comments on this would be most appreciated.  Since we are apparently no longer in agreement on this question, unless you have some additional reasons for your preference that might persuade me, perhaps it would now be best to wait to see if anyone else has any insights into this question before proceeding to make any change.  Anyone else??? Scott P. 15:59, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
:::::I understand that the original intention has evolved. That is always a good thing as I think the article is now much more encompassing and encyclopedic than before. In an article about the Guru-shishya tradition, there is (and should be) a place for an analysis of the psychological and belief aspects, if (and only if) supported by external primary sources that discuss such beliefs and/or psychological aspects. So, the current article as it has evolved is about the ancient teacher-student tradition in Hinduism. Tradition in this context it does not mean "in the past". This "tradition" is very much alive nowadays not only in "spiritual" matters, but also in medicine, music and architecture.  
:::::A section on the "psychological aspects" can be added with good citations by authors and scholars that may have studied this subject. A caveat, is that most probably these are Western scholars/writers and as such they will have a very narrow and specific POV. That will be OK, of course, we will need just to add some context for NPOV. 
:::::In regard to the title, If you disagree on keeping the current one, Guru-shishya tradition, we could ask some editors that have been working on the Hinduism articles for their opinion, or put up an RfC. ≈ jossi ≈ 18:07, August 3, 2005 (UTC)
Hi,
I know a lot of discussion has gone into place for changing the name from "Guru-shishya belief system" to "Guru-shishya tradition". Well, I would further suggest that the name be changed to "Guru-shishya parampara" which is more appropriate and is how it is exactly referred to by Hindus in India. It is also more complete. I am saying this for the same reasons for which you have not kept the title words as the "teacher-student" instead of "guru-shishya".
Also, I think the first line of the article is grammatically incorrect. It says ---> "The guru-shishya tradition (also guru-shishya parampara or lineage) is a spiritual relationship ..." How can a tradition be a relationship? I would suggest it be started as "The guru-shishya parampara is a spiritual tradition ..."
--Abahuguna 18:39, 24 August 2005 (UTC)
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message: Parampara is only one aspect to the Guru-shishya tradition. Maybe we can merge Parampara into this article in its own section? ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:19, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Or have a section and link to the main article of parampara? Wikidās ॐ 21:21, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sure, that is a better a idea as it allows the Parampara article to be developed further. Go ahead and create a short section summarizing it and add a link. I'll chip-in if needed. ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 21:39, 16 April 2008 (UTC)

text:  Good work! ≈ jossi ≈ (talk) 19:05, 17 April 2008 (UTC)
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