Talk:Napoleon's Crimes

message: someone has marked this for deletion. Even though only Ribbe has published on this topic, I don't think it should be dismissed out of hand because Ribbe is not only a historian-author, he's well respected enough to have been appointed to a human rights position within the french government by the prime minister. In other words, this is notable, it's not some obscure historian in some forgotten musty office that produced this information.
As far as the original research justification for deletion goes, that's silly since Ribbe is the researcher, not any of the wikipedia authors. So, while I don't object to deletion in general, I'll remove the delete tag for now since it's justified as being original research when it clearly isn't.
Qwasty 02:34, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I essentially agree; the topic/controversy is clearly notable and it would violate NPOV if we pushed it out of Wikipedia. However, the title of the article itself is conclusatory IMHO, and very original I think. In google, the phrase "Napoleon's Holocaust" comes up exclusively with Wiki-related content. I think this article ought to be moved to The Crime of Napoleon. The book and its claims clearly meet the Wikipedia notabality threshold, we need an article on the book, and unless/until the topic advances into a more general discussion and a term for the topic becomes established either popularly or in the academic community, it's probably premature for Wikipedia to have an article on the topic in addition to an article on the book and related controversy. A minor rewrite would be required if the article is moved. Studerby 07:20, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As the one who PRODed the article, I am going to move it and make a number of changes to avoid it being deleted. Batmanand | Talk 09:34, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Rewrite looks good. Studerby 15:20, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree, it's really informative now. Qwasty 23:01, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the shows of support for the rewrite. As the one who originally PRODed it, and then rewrote it, I suppose the phrase "ye of little faith" is quite appropriate. Batmanand | Talk 09:14, 14 September 2006 (UTC)

text: I have added that detail into the article. Batmanand | Talk 09:25, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion? 

message: Claude Ribbe accuses the Bonaparte regime for genocide!  Is not a dictator enough frightening?!  The evil deeds of a dictator are limited by the means he has. (I don’t know about any female dictators, but I have no reason to believe that there is no one or could not be.)  I seriously doubt that it was possible to manufacture sulphur dioxide in the necessary amounts.  There ought to be a paragraph with criticism like in the other articles with controversial historic claims.
2006-10-30  Lena Synnerholm, Märsta, Sweden.
*It is easy to make enough sulphur diixode, by burning sulphur, which would be readily available in bulk from volcanoes in the area. Anthony Appleyard 18:30, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anachronistic accusation 

message: Please respect the memory of the dead. My ancestor was executed by Michel Ney's 6th Corps on April 20th 1809, in Monforte de Lemos. He had 6 small children, all younger than 10 years old, one to be born less than 3 weeks later. He was assassinated in the most cruel and grotesque manner, in front of his entire family. His wife pleaded he could be administered the Catholic Ritual of extreme unction, but the French prevented it and killed him like an animal. She gave birth prematurely his posthumous son less than 3 weeks later. We know all this because the priest who buried him wrote it down in the book of defuncts of the parish. I have enclosed a transcript here. That very same day, 1,100 innocent civilians of the same village were assassinated in a similar manner. Napoleon murdered millions of innocent civilians all over Europe, and France should be ashamed of this as much as Germany is of the Jewish Holocaust. I do not ask anything from France or the descendants of Napoleon, or those building monuments and celebrating the memory of that genocide. Just respect for the dead and historical truth. (167.206.29.162 (talk) 16:28, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Section posted on multiple talk pages, discussion centralised on Talk:Napoleon I of France. Equendil Talk 03:53, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  From a desdendant of a victim of Napoleon's Genocides

message: A translation into English is due in September of 2007. 69.114.169.169 03:46, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Forthcoming book: Napoleon's Crimes: A Blueprint for Hitler