Talk:Sean Yazbeck

message: Feel that this clarification is necessary, given that the preceding statement makes it look like Sean Yazbeck was lying instead of making an analogy to the US system.MRM 12:35, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That unsigned statement is a personal opinion.MRM 06:52, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I will make a comment on Monday, but I can't until then!  Thanks, I will read the comments then.  Isoxyl 14:28, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re-inserted the clarification of the valedictorian comment 

message: See WP:LIVING especially WP:VERIFY. Feel that to be in accord with this policy, my recommendations above are conservative.MRM 20:55, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Rules  for Biography of Living Persons 

message: # Having looked at the article as it now stands, I would suggest deleting the cleanup-rewrite tag because it looks much better to me in general.  I agree that it still could use a little work, but it's not terrible, in my opinion.  I won't delete it myself, but suggest that the person who added it, or other participants in discussion, decide if it should be left in place.  I would suggest leaving the general cleanup tag though.
# I have changed the wording slightly in reference to his claims to be valedictorian, so as to (I hope) satisfy both sides with the most objectivity.  I do believe that Sean 'may' have been trying to exaggerate his academic credentials by stating only "Southampton University" rather than explicitly "Southhampton Solent University" or "Southampton Institute," relying upon Trump's lack of knowledge of the British uni system and the general American tendency to associate English-sounding placenames with prestige (esp. when attached simply to "University") to bolster his credentials against Lee's very substantial honors under the American system.  However, his biographical article, per WP:LIVING, is not the place for supposition of this nature.  Furthermore, I believe that using the term "lie" is inappropriate, even if true, based on simple editorial practice for this kind of compendium of information.  I agree with MRM's statement that unless he was explicitly convicted of this lie, or confessed to it publically, we should use not that language.  I think the way it is worded now allows reader's to discern Sean's (stated) intent and also to infer from that a desire to deceive Trump, if they are so inclined, since both fit the facts.  I added some explanation for whether his statement of "Southampton Univ" is a sign of deception as well.  See what you think.
# I have removed the NPOV tag.  I don't believe it is non-neutral at this point, but if you disagree, please argue here.  I certainly don't have an agenda.
# Added general cleaning and wikilinking to the whole article. Isoxyl 15:20, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much Isoxyl.  The article looks much better and is fair.  However, there are no external references for the controversy- are there any authoritative sources that raise this issue other than here?  Also, cites from the board room scene within the show might help elucidate some of these issues.  Don't want to start this war all over again- so will paste my suggested revisions here for comment and wait 3 days.  Here are some suggestions:MRM 23:33, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Suggested text: In the finale he also stated that he had attended Southampton University.  There has been some dispute as to the intention of Yazbeck in using this abbreviation of his school's name. Some speculate that he was intentionally implying to Mr. Trump and the audience that he had attended the much older and more distinguished University of Southampton, in order to compete with his opponent's Ivy League qualifications.  This is an impression that Trump's action of equating the two candidates educational qualifications appears to justify.  Others believe that Yazbeck was simply abbreviating the name for an American audience unfamiliar with the British educational system or that he may have simply misspoken the name in the heat of discussion.  Yazback used both names for his alma mater in the board room scene, which leads credence to the latter argument.MRM 23:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Again, thank you very much Isoxyl.MRM 23:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem, hope this satisfies everybody.  Minor point, "lends credence" in the last sentence, and I might humbly suggest "lends some credence" because I don't believe it unequivocally answers the point.  I suggest going ahead and adding that to the article, but feel free to wait for Ralphthebear or others to comment as well!  Isoxyl 01:39, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Incidentally, I haven't been doing any looking, but I don't know of other sources to cite as you queried.  I would suggest that if anyone has them, it would be good to include them here!  Forward!  Isoxyl 01:41, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article changes

message: Please contribute to the relevant discussion here, as this discussion relates to this article. Thanks, Dalejenkins |  15:37, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The Apprentice World-wide WikiProject

message: Why doesn't the article mention that he is muslim. Whenever someone is a Jew, they credit them, make sure its written in the article, but whenever a muslim is succesfull, its overlooked or not mentioned. Can someone add it? --93.97.181.187 (talk) 23:52, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isn't he Muslim 

message: This article has heavily been written and edited by the subject (distinctly against Wikipedia best practices). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Autobiography  This leads to an article which is more a resume and advert for the subjects company.  Suggest it needs stripping down to cover the Apprentice win (the notable part of the subject) and major rework.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.170.137.253 (talk) 08:58, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Autobiographicial