Talk:History of the Jews in Ukraine

message: Hey Historians, I am wondering about what evidence you have that Fanya Baron was jewish... Was she a practicing jew? I ask because I found it very difficult to research her for the Fanya Baron article and would love any other material if you have any. Or are you just going by the name alone? Cheers, Anna AnAn 08:20, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fanya Baron 

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replies: text: 2006-12-28T02:19:02 Bucketsofg (Talk | contribs | block) m (Protected History of the Jews in Ukraine: down-grade to semiprotect [edit=autoconfirmed:move=autoconfirmed]) but is now on wiki-break so I have "acquired" it. Discuss...  William M. Connolley 17:54, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: protection

message: In the first paragraph of the medieval section, there is one sentence that is different between the two versions (in italics, below):
:Jewish settlements in Ukraine can be traced back to the 8th century. Possibly, Jewish refugees from the Byzantine Empire, Persia, and Mesopotamia, fleeing from persecution by Christians throughout Europe, settled in the Khazar Khaganate. The first written document, Kievian Letter, that acknowleges existance of jewish community in Kievan Rus' is dated by early 10th century (or possibly 11th century).
Is there consensus as to whether or not to include this? Or how to edit the whole paragraph to make it acceptable to everyone?  Bucketsofg 19:48, 27 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  consensus on kievian letter? 

message: Today two lists were added to this article: Jews who made contributions to Ukrainian culture, and Jews who made contributions to world culture. I began to edit them, as, for example, Lazar Kaganovich clearly did not belong, Mikhail Goldstein's contributions were enjoyed outside the Ukraine, Rheinhold Gliere was not Jewish, (I wonder about some others) etc. Now I see that the second list is loaded with politicians, including Golda Meir.
It is clear that the titles of the lists are not accurate, and even if they were, it is not clear that they are appropriate for the article. I have deleted both in their entirety. Jd2718 17:35, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lists of Jews who... 

message: I want to know, how cossacks can massacred from 50 to several thousands Jews when total number of Jewish population in Ukrain at the same time was about 51 thousands? Even if cossacks have massacred all ukrainian jews (that is not true), they can not to massacre several thousands Jews. It's obvious fudge!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.123.153.25 (talk) 09:28, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cossack Uprising and the Deluge 

message: During the period of the UNR there were a number of ministers who were Jewish. There was also established a Ministry for Jewish Affairs which if I remember correctly was a first in Europe.
Also the Ukrainian Banknotes of the UNR were also printed with characters in Hebrew letters in Yiddish which I think was also a first. (Maybe Austro-Hugary was a possible first). Would this be worthy of inclussion in this section. Bandurist 03:24, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ukrainian National Republic 

message: If Jewish population at the time of the Uprising was about fifty thousand, how the uprising could cost the life of fifty thousand or hundred thousands of jews, as say the text?--Enkiduk (talk) 03:57, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cossack Uprising and the Deluge 

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message: I deleted a number of entries from the list of Notable Ukrainian Jews because this does not correctly describe the individuals.  Specifically:
Nimoy was born in Boston, Massachusetts
Shatner was born on March 22, 1931, in the Côte Saint-Luc neighbourhood of Montreal
Chomsky was born on December 7, 1928, to Jewish parents in the affluent East Oak Lane neighborhood of Philadelphia
Barr was born in Salt Lake City
Peter Yarrow was born in New York City, New York
Carl Sagan was born in Brooklyn, New York
Goffman was born in 1922 in Mannville, Alberta
The above are quotes from their respective Wikipedia entries.  Being descended from immigrants does not give the child the parents' nationality.  I have removed these entries from the section on Notable Ukrainian Jews. Larry Koenigsberg (talk) 20:42, 25 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Notable Ukrainian Jews" 

message: I crated a collage of Ukrainian Jews which includes:
Leo Ornstein • Sholom Aleichem • Leon Trotsky • Isaak Babel • Mila Kunis
Golda Meir • Vladimir Horowitz • Waldemar Haffkine • Selman Waksman • Abraham Goldfaden
It was hard to create because the majority of Russian and American Jews have at least one grandfather from Ukraine, but I decided to stick to those who actually were born in Ukraine. Guitar hero on the roof (talk) 12:25, 16 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collage of Ukrainian Jews 

message: The article noted that in Ukraine for only 71,500 Jews. But according to the Census of 2001 there 103,600 (I do not know how they counted their number in 2010 because I did not find such information in Ukrainian, even on the State Statistics Committee site). I already wrote about it once, but someone told me that it is necessary to have a uniform data from one source. But I believe that the official census data more reliable. Please correct the data.--Шиманський Василь (talk) 08:37, 8 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of Jews in Ukraine 

message: The article tries to suggest that Russia was tradionally against Jews
The sentence "The traditional measure of keeping the Russian Empire free of Jews" claims that there was always a desire to keep Jews away from Russia. The small part of Jews was rather a coincidence and ended with the Polish divisions.
In fact the Russian progroms started only after 1880. GeorgeDorgan (talk) 06:45, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The page Antisemitism in the Russian Empire#History contains more details and citations on this issue.  --Off-shell (talk) 22:15, 27 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The traditional measures of keeping the Russian Empire free of Jews 

message: :It's biased, the other POV not presented. Unsourced.
:Was Petlura murdered due to his anti-Semitism or rather anti-Soviet activities? 
:Pinchas Krasny or Pinkhas as in Petlura?
Xx236 (talk) 06:37, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  He (Petlura) is often considered to be the perpetrator 

message: Was it one pogrom or two? Mentioned in two subsections. There exists Proskurov pogrom, which should be linked here.Xx236 (talk) 06:51, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proskurov pogrom ? 

message: :Which restrictions in which countries? Human rights in the SU, tell me more about them...
:Many Polish Jews were murderd by the Soviets (Katyn, 1941 prison massacres) or imprisoned in Gulag, many starved. Some Jews left the SU with the Anders' Army, the majority of them settled in Palestine.
:Jewish religion was persecuted in the SU.Xx236 (talk) 07:02, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restrictions on Jews that had existed in the formerly independent countries were now lifted 

message: Interesting that the page doesn't mention the Holodomor.Xx236 (talk) 09:21, 28 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Holodomor]] 

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message: As you can see here (pg 624), there were 100,000 Jews living in Ukraine in 2002 (NOT 400,000), while there's no source to support 400,000 Jews in 2014 (dead link).--יניב הורון (Yaniv) (talk) 10:22, 25 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Kyiv(110,000), Dnepropetrovsk (60,000), Kharkov (45,000), and Odessa (45,000), per http://www.worldjewishcongress.org/en/about/communities/UA .
--Galassi (talk) 23:37, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Any idea how these numbers have been determined? For example, the number of people who self-identified as a "Jew" in Ukraine during a population census would be significantly smaller than the number of people with the Right_of_return#Israel (the numbers by the Jewish Congress?). One would think such numbers should be generally taken from an official population census. There is nothing wrong with alternative estimates, but the source must clearly say how these numbers have been determined. My very best wishes (talk) 20:12, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Up until 2001 there was an official census - which I think we should be using. Post 2001 it is estimates. I am unsure on the RSness (and currentness) of the WJC. Extended or crypto Jews are typically counted separately - but if we were to include them we should do so consistently - more than 300k+ Jew left Ukraine 1990-2010 - e.g. this diff which placed 487k at 1989 and 420k at 2002 makes no sense in relation to the mass migration. The current article also is a mess on the per city estimates.Icewhiz (talk) 20:28, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree.--Galassi (talk) 21:02, 3 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fake statistics 

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thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: This section has no citations, contradicts the linked further reading articles, and plays into anti-semetic canards that have been going around the internet lately about the soviet union being founded by Jews. (Jewish Bolshevism).
I can't speak to the second paragraph as much, but it probably should at least cite one source.
2603:7000:2100:2031:0:0:0:1DCB (talk) 19:49, 2 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Political Activism and Emigration Section is of dubious quality 

message: Pogroms have started way before the 1821. There were pogroms happening during the black plague which the Jewish and Muslim communities were both blamed for and attacked for. i guess the phrasing needs to be updated or more research is needed Shelly098 (talk) 00:40, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pogroms topic mentioned