Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Wikify/Archive 1

message: On errant's reccommendation, I've gone and moved everything to this page, created the shortcut (WP:WWF), added headers to talk and project pages etc. I think our next step should be to create an invitation template, or just do everything personally, and find everyone who's ever worked on wikification a lot, invite them to the project and help them wikify more efficiently. I've brought my template (User:Draicone/Wikify) in line with the colour scheme I used here as well, and linked to the project page from my template. --Draicone (talk) 00:03, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notes for LBITUK 

message: I'm working on a template that we can add to user talk pages to invite members to the project. Also, we need to justify why this project is different to the wikification drive at WP:WIKIFY. --Draicone (talk) 07:20, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not different, its the extension of it (look at the talk page) and the formalisation of the process as a wikiproject.. --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 08:11, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: PS wheres the template you mentioned? Just out of interest!! :D --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 08:13, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've invited some people who had commented on the talk page, but don't seem to have wikified anything for a while.  Will have to wait and see if it has the desired result.  Having a template to use would be really useful if you have time. -Ladybirdintheuk 11:22, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It has to be different. It already is different, but I really want to make this wikiproject worth something - so that its not just yet another attempt to clear a backlog. We have to find ways to get more people into wikification, wikify articles quicker, wikify articles better so that they don't need future wikification, or a combination of those. And I'm still working on the template, but I'll probably get it done in the next 5 minutes or so. Watch this space :) --Draicone (talk) 06:06, 8 August 2006 (UTC)

text: (reset indent) Sorry, got distracted, took a whole lot longer than 5 minutes. Template is at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikify/Invite a member, and appears as:
Hi there! Thought you might be interested in WikiProject Wikify. We're currently recruiting help to clear a massive backlog (6000+ articles), and we need your help! If you have a spare moment, please join and wikify an article or tell your friends.Draicone (talk) 07:14, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some notes 

message: Some of you may be interested in doing a new pages patrol.  Reviewing new pages avoids many of the wikification problems before they arive here.  It is also a lot more fun.  Jon513 18:08, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: so you say ;) but most new page patrollers just tag the new poorly written articles fir wikification and spend most of the time speedying the rest - leaving the bulk for us :D How do I know? - because thats what I do... --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 19:49, 7 August 2006 (UTC)

text: My experience in patrolling new pages is that there are already enough people doing so and I often run into edit conflicts as there are many adding tags at the same time. It's sort of like the Wild Wild West over there. So I'd rather spend time cleaning out the oldest of the garbage that stills lingers in April at this moment. --Brad101 17:05, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  for those interested 

message: Thanks for inviting me, I'm going to be really busy in the next few months, but that doesn't mean that I can offer suggestions. What I had been doing is going through and partially wikifying, sort of doing triage, which consists of:
*Checking the page on copyscape.com
:*If the top site is a rolex site, answers.com, or a pd source, ignore
:*If not, plug the top page back into copyscape and selecting wikipedia's link
::*If it a part of the text, I remove it
::*If it's all of the text, I blank it, place a  tag and list it  
*Bold the title
*Add birth and death cat
*If no other cats, add 
*If a school add 
*If it has no external links 
I tried to repeat this for most of june. My point it maybe we should try spliting some of the work with some new templates.  I know there is a , but is there a  or a ? This project could sort out the wikify with more spesific tagging.--Rayc 01:02, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikify Sort 

message: I created the toolbox suggested on the main project page, mainly to alleviate the issues related to red links and because I was bored. It's at Wikipedia:WikiProject Wikify/Toolbox, and can be seen in its current form below:
Please visit the page and add to it what you can. I suggest that someone with the time visit Help:Editing and copy the most relevant links into the table. Remember to add a new row put a blank line with '|-' on it, then another line with the content after a '|align=center | '. See Help:Table or ask me if you're unsure. --Draicone (talk) 07:45, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: oops sorry I didn't realise you had included it in the page, sorry --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 10:00, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toolbox 

message: Hi all ... I found myself using Cleanup resources and Stub categories quite often when wikifying, I've added them to the Reference section of the toolbox. JubalHarshaw 02:30, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Added to toolbox

message: I have created an open tasks box for Wikify. It is shamelessly ripped off of the Good Articles project open task box. Here it is:
it can be added to a page with:
Feel Free to please change/update it as articles are fixed or to mess around with it completely, I just know I like the one for GA and thought one would be good here too.
--The Talking Sock talk contribs  21:01, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Open Tasks Box 

message: I have to say that the wikification project is going wonderfully and just wanted to give you all some encouragement! Have a wonderful day! --74.133.52.253 13:57, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Job Guys! 

message: Instead of simply saying 1250000+ articles, why not add  (Template:NUMBEROFARTICLES) for an exact number? It would seem to be more precise and wouldn't need to be updated.  —$ΡЯΙNGεrαgђ (-C|ε|L|T-) 16:35, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Updating that now then.. cheers for the pointer! --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 18:37, 10 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article number 

message: I'm just testing whether my system for signatures has to be substed:
(Above: without subst; Below: with subst)
Hi there! Thought you might be interested in WikiProject Wikify. We're currently recruiting help to clear a massive backlog (6000+ articles), and we need your help! If you have a spare moment, please join and wikify an article or tell your friends.Draicone (talk) 21:09, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  subst and no subst - invite template 

message: I've recoded the table template using #if and arguments, so that we now have our own version of user2 without the count link (this was totally outdated and not really fair anyway; plus slightly irrelevant to us) and the status defaults to Active. I've removed the |Active from entries in the table and its working fine. Please tell me if this is taboo or something (remember, TINC!). --Draicone (talk) 22:42, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: yeah it's fine. Seems like natural progression to me :D --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 11:01, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  table template 

message: Ok another idea I had to coerce people into helping reward good participants is to propose a  Wikification Barnstar. Just an idea but worht consideration --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 11:48, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a good idea too.  (You are made of good ideas at the moment!)  I've given people the workingman's barnstar in the past for wikification, but having a specific one wouldn't hurt. -Ladybirdintheuk 12:53, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: K. Ill work on that one. Another idea is a toolbox of useful links (see the tools section) that you could have open in another window / tab whilst wikifying articles. Maybe with useful links, code snippets / template snippets and a wikification checklist  --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 20:02, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Idea: Barnstar with the wikilink brackets surrounding it? Or behind it, or something suitably awesome. Luna Santin 08:35, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice idea! Thanks for reminding evryone about this! I completely forgot!!!! Yeah I might have a go at that idea.. --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 09:13, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: (Moved convo to bottom for ease of conversation): I created this image this evening. Not brilliant but a start. + it is a PNG with all the layers intact so someone with more talent feel free to make it not suck. --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 18:49, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikify Barnstar 

message: Ok any ideas for raising the profile? I managed to get the project a mention on the Community Portal today (see notices and feel free to reword if you dont like it) but we could do with other ways. Posting on peoples talk pages is good but can look like spamming - and has limited results. I am really a bit stumped as to where to go next! So anyone else got ideas?
In other news is it time we proposed removing the duplicate content from the category page and redirecting the talk page to here? That way people casually browsing the category cant miss us!
Alonbg the same vein I changed the link that appears in the open tasks pain (on the CP and other places) from linking to the category to linking to the WikiProject page. --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 18:55, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Raising the profile

message: Please see User:Brad101/redundancy for things that have been on my mind lately. Use the talk page there for comments about changes etc. Thanks --Brad101 14:54, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project redundancy 

message: "Of the 1,375,932 articles on Wikipedia only around 1,000+ are of Featured Article standard; of those remaining, most are poorly written, badly linked and in need of general care and attention." -- A tad to a lot hyperbolic, don't you think? Crystallina 00:47, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: you think? maybe a slight overstatement but look at the 12000 plus articles that are tagged in total for cleanup!! :D --Errant Tmorton166(Talk)(Review me) 20:08, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: 12000 is a lot, yes, but not even 0.01% of the total. Crystallina 02:19, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Point taken, does changing most -> many sit ok with you? --Errant Tmorton166(Talk) 09:30, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, that'd be fine. I just don't want it to inadvertently scare anyone off. Crystallina 13:07, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scope and goals 

message: Please support bug 4288 which is an enhancement that allows general tagging of revisions. This will allow user and group defined tags which can then be used for things like this project and possibly other stuff in the future. Thanks. --Gbleem 23:22, 11 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  4288 

message: I found that Bamana tribe duplicates Bambara so I added mergeto and mergefrom tags to the articles.  Am I done?  Should I remove the wikify tag.  Perhaps I should add a wikify tag to the mergeto article?  --JeffW 18:44, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I never use the wikify tag.  (Also, I thought it was supposed to go on talk pages, but I could be wrong.)  That Bamana tribe article really sounds like a copyvio--it's text added as one big chunk and completely unwikified.  Does anyone know a procedure for nominating suspected copyvios?  I only know the procedure if text is found elsewhere on the web.  At any rate, it looks good!  If you wanted to be really adventurous, you could merge the text yourself, but that's outside the scope of the project.  However, I wouldn't spend too much time wikifying something that may get scrapped in the merge.  It's up to you.  Keep up the good work! -- Merope Talk 18:52, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you don't use the wikify tag then are you saying that you only work on articles that have been tagged by others, or that you just put the category on the page without using the template?  --JeffW 20:38, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How to handle duplicate 

message: A large percentage of the articles I'm looking at in the backlog cleanup taskforce are stubs.  But a stub isn't long enough to have sections and it often is only one paragraph so making sure the lead paragraph is a summary doesn't make sense.  I suppose you could add links but is it worth it given that someone will likely rewrite the whole thing in the future?
I suggest that when wikifying if you find a stub article you should just make sure it has a stub template and remove the wikify template.  You could include this in the section called Articles that can't be wikified.  --JeffW 20:47, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you can do a lot to wikify a lot of stubs. Make sure it starts with a bold version of the name defined, check for terms that can reasonably be linked (author of book, for instance), move inline URLs to an "external links" section, and - of course - check that there isn't another article on the subject. A lot of stubs are very much not in wiki format, even when they are short. And no, I don't believe all stubs will be rewritten in the future - I've been watching some stubs since I started using Wikipedia, and they're still stubs. --Alvestrand 06:28, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should stub articles be wikified? 

message: Already on project page, but just to draw extra attention to this handy tool.
Can We Link It? - tool for suggesting and adding possible wiki links to articles. Progressively learns what's a good and a bad link. See here for more info. Also checks for unbalanced wiki syntax, which is sometimes a problem when articles are added by new users.
Garion96 (talk) 23:06, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Handy tool 

message: After over two weeks of the progress template being updated being updated every 2 hours with each month being updated in a seperate edit...I'm wondering what people think of it being updated in this manner.  I'm feeling it's not very useful.  I like being able to track our total progress and get a better view of how much we go up or down in a day.  Any one have thoughts?  Metros232 23:45, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template updates 

message: I'm fairly new to this, but have been tackling the May backlog, counting down, and am pleased to see it finished before the end of September. Have I missed the celebration messages? If there aren't any - here is one to get started: Well done to everyone who worked on the May backlog - good job! Can we get June finished before the end of October? - Windymilla 23:12, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is great to see May gone.  Well done everyone!  I'm sure we can clear June by the end of the month - easy peasy :) -Ladybirdintheuk 12:11, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  May 2006 backlog 

message: Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory.  This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.   B2T2 14:31, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project directory 

message: A new Newsletter directory has been created to replace the old, out-of-date one. If your WikiProject and its taskforces have newsletters (even inactive ones), or if you know of a missing newsletter (including from sister projects like WikiSpecies), please include it in the directory! The template can be a bit tricky, so if you need help, just post the newsletter on the template's talk page and someone will add it for you.
:– Sent on behalf of Headbomb. 03:11, 11 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  A new newsletter directory is out!