Talk:Wickliffe Draper

message: Hi Fastfission.  The pioneer fund is sometimes fallaciously (but well-intentionedly) reduced to a funder of race and intelligence research.  My change to the intro was trying to take into account that the fund funds a wide range of research.--Nectarflowed T 17:34, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks to me like you replaced a line saying that they study race an intelligence to one about how they study the heredity of human differences, which is usually a euphemism for studying race and intelligence. --Fastfission 22:08, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree replacement with a euphemism would be a questionable change, but they do fund a variety of work that seems to warrant the broader description ("heredity and human differences" --the phrase they use). See, for example, the Minnesota Study of Twins Reared Apart, of which they were a partial funder. The fund's site gives a list of notable grantees and their work, broken down into the four categories that are funded: behavioral genetics, intelligence, social demography, and group differences (sex, social class, and race).--Nectarflowed T 03:55, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
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message: You may find it helpful while reading or editing articles to look at a bibliography of   Intelligence Citations, posted for the use of all Wikipedians who have occasion to edit articles on human intelligence and related issues. I happen to have circulating access to a huge academic research library at a university with an active research program in those issues (and to another library that is one of the ten largest public library systems in the United States) and have been researching these issues since 1989. You are welcome to use these citations for your own research. You can help other Wikipedians by suggesting new sources through comments on that page. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 14:50, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intelligence Citations Bibliography for Articles Related to IQ Testing 

message: Getting to know the various articles in this category during the  Arbitration Committee case alerted me to some authors and sources who don't usually appear in the  mainstream professional literature on psychology. And following up on some citations I found in those Wikipedia articles, in turn, helped me find some sources that explain the origin of much of the minority literature on this subject. I've had a chance now to obtain the book mentioned for a while in the article here, and the follow-up book by the same author is on its way to me from the friendly flagship university library. 
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The first listed book, of course, is directly related to this article, and is a wonderful source finder for facts about Wickliffe Draper and his life and writings, and for facts about the Pioneer Fund. I'm very impressed with how thoroughly Tucker cites his vast array of sources and how thoughtfully he describes the context of the different authors, writings, and historical movements he surveys. These books are helpful, reliable secondary sources for most of the articles in the related category here on Wikipedia. In general, all of the articles within the scope of the topic bans from the recent ArbCom case could be improved if more Wikipedians refer to these sources for further editing of the articles. -- WeijiBaikeBianji (talk) 16:05, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Tucker books are good sources for this article. 

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message: In reviewing this article it seems the only mention of Draper being a "philanthropist" is the quote from his own organization The Pioneer Fund that says:
"Draper insisted that his role as benefactor to many charitable causes (including military history, archaeology, conservation, and population problems) remain anonymous. He never married and when he died in 1972, he left a significant portion of his assets to the Pioneer Fund to continue its scientific philanthropy."
Given that the quote is from an organization he founded, I consider this source POV and verging on self-publication. It seems to me that "philanthropist" is a subjective term, and that we would need more than one reference to one white supremacist organization to attest that the man "loves humankind" or is "very generous", for us to objectively call him a philanthropist in the lead paragraph.
Therefore, I've deleted the "philanthropist" descriptor. If you disagree, please explain here to ensure your re-addition isn't reverted out of hand. -kotra (talk) 09:24, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Philanthropist"?