Talk:List of Holocaust films

message: Those of you who regularly surf the film list area of wikipedia are probalby familier with me by now. They might have guessed by interest in all things relating to the Second World War. Though I had had this list in mind for a while, I mad the decsion to create it very recently. I was reading the comments on Youtube for a video on the Holocaust here and I couldn't help but notice the prevalence of Holocaust revisionism, and relativism I found. Often occuring in the discussion, and on other anti-Semitic website, is the canard that the Holocaust is used by "Jewish Hollywood" to generate sympathy and support for the state of Israel. A passing look at the number and providence of Holocaust films made in the first 15 years after the fact should help dispel that myth, at least to my mind.--Dudeman5685 21:46, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Very Special Wikipedia Article 

message: I've removed the following
Year	Country	Title             	Director      	Notes
1938	       	The Great Dictator	Charles Chapin	Shows Persecution in the ghettos and unknowingly predicts the holocaust
which was in a new section, the 1930s. Firstly, the film was made in 1940, so should be in the 1940s section if anywhere. Secondly, it doesn't deal specifically with the Holocaust, which was unknown at the time of its filming. What do other ppl think? Stick it in the 40s section, or leave it out altogether? Squiddy | (squirt ink?) 15:01, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The notations above of The Great Dictator is probably enough for the film, but I would like to make the following points with respect to its inclusion/removal:
1) It was made and released during the time period specified on the main page (1938-1945)
2) It is included in academic and cinematic material as an important film shaping public perception of the persecution of Jewish people in Europe, and reflects state response to that date to the Jewish Question.
3) It could not take the Final Solution (meaning gas as a means of execution)as its subject matter not because the holocaust had not happened, but because it was underway.  The ghettos and camps depicted were the collection stage prerequisite to systematic execution.  Hitler said that he would annihilate Jews in 1939.  They knew that they were going to execute them all, they just didn't know how.
4) It problematizes the list, opens the flood gates for a number of other spoofs around that time, and allied propaganda, both of which probably are not in keeping with the spirit of the list.  However, it does not appear in lists of propaganda or other films that I can find in Wikipedia.  Perhaps TGD stands alone. --Ryanndc (talk) 02:37, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[The Great Dictator]] 

message: I've just found a reference to a book which might be handy for anyone researching for this article, although it's a bit dated: I. Avisar, Screening the Holocaust: Cinema's Image of the Unimaginable, Bloomington, Indiana University Press, 1988. HTH, Squiddy | (squirt ink?) 15:46, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Book resources 

message: I didn't see the 1980's miniseries "WINDS OF WAR" on the list.
I didn't see http://imdb.com/title/tt0048434/ either.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.248.20.200 (talk) 01:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No answer regarding Winds of War... but Nuit et bruillard is indeed on the list. Pinkville (talk) 03:17, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions 

message: It's not the same thing ! 
Shoah is the term chosen by historians rather than Holocaust.
Indeed Holocaust means a "voluntary sacrifice", which does not correspond to the massacre (Shoah) was perpetrated by the Nazis.
Talking just is an aid to understanding just things.
JeanClem --91.164.102.110 (talk) 09:34, 16 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "Holocaust" is the term used elsewhere on this site, e.g. The Holocaust; this section should follow that usage.
So, if there are movies about the Porajmos, that will have a separate wiki page, as the Holocaust does?Sdsures (talk) 14:16, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Holocaust or Shoah ?

message: Cavani's Il Portiere di notte (The Night Porter) isn't included - I'm not sure if it counts as it's set some time after the war despite centring on events in a concentration camp (I assume bad taste isn't sufficient reason to leave it out).  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0071910/
I've not seen Robert Young's 2007 drama Eichmann which probably belongs here too http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0901481/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.172.19.20 (talk) 17:15, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: More films

message: If Sophie Scholl – The Final Days is about the Holocaust, so probably any movie about the WWII in Europe is about the Holocaust. Either you prove your thesis, or I remove the title from the table. Xx236 (talk) 10:01, 7 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Sophie Scholl – The Final Days]] 

message: eg Boy with striped pajamas in doc section--Mongreilf (talk) 01:20, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd say someone got mixed up not realising they were looking at the documentary section and thinking it had to be added. I've removed it and also closed the table properly, as the see also links were appearing inside the table instead of below it. Ralphy512 (talk) 16:31, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Narrative and Documentary films all mixed up 

message: Dear friends; please take a look at Ghetto (2006), LibraryThing Ghetto by Yehoshua Sobol (otherwise under Joshua Sobol) and :de:Ghetto (Film). Best regards
‫·‏לערי ריינהארט‏·‏T‏·‏m‏:‏Th‏·‏T‏·‏email me‏·‏‬ 16:30, 17 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ghetto (2006) 

message: Does this qualify. It is set after the war and is about a boy's escape from a concentration camp. Ralphy512 (talk) 03:17, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: [[I Am David (film)]]

message: Shouldn't Inglourious Basterds appear on this page? The eponymous Basterds are a group of Jewish Americans killing Nazis in Europe during WWII, and Christoph Waltz won the Best Supporting Actor award for his role as an SS colonel hunting Jews. JJP 64.223.191.242 (talk) 19:26, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inglourious Basterds 

message: A number of contributors appear not to have been aware of the division between Narrative (fiction) and Documentary, so the 2nd list in fact includes at least some narrative feature films.
Varlaam (talk) 00:55, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Documentary list 

message: In attempting to add the new decade heading (2010s), the heading appears immediately ahead of the "2000s" film list, instead of at the beginning of the new section.  Sorry, can someone fix this?  I'm stumped. Unclemikejb (talk) 21:55, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  2000s, 2010s 

message: For example, Idi i smotri is a film about the struggle between the Soviet partisans and the Germans, and Jews are not even mentioned. --194.145.185.229 (talk) 10:06, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some not really Holocaust films in the list 

message: What "Seventeen moments of spring" has to do with the Holocaust? Besides professor Pleishner, eccentric scientist (his ethnic background was not mentioned in the film) who was killed in Switzerland because of the political reasons there is no mention of the Jews or the Holocaust in this film whatsoever.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.28.252.86 (talk) 10:43, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seventeen moments of spring 

message: there are about 150 movies in there...
that's about 3 movies a year about the same god damn subject  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Diefromevileye (talk • contribs) 06:21, 1 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No one forces you to watch any. Varlaam (talk) 22:54, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there hundreds of movies on Armenian holocaust? Do Ukrainians make a new holodomor movie every year? --Autismal (talk) 18:42, 15 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Holohoax 

message: I don't remember doing it, but I pointed this out up above 2 years ago.
I have now labelled the documentary sections internally as DOCUMENTARY. Hopefully there will be fewer repetitions.
But someone should start shifting titles upwards.
The list, for example, includes:
 Greece        Bent         Sean Mathias
That is fiction, not documentary. It is British, not Greek.
There is a quality control issue over here.
Plus most of these titles are duplicated over at List of World War II films.
Varlaam (talk) 22:59, 15 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Documentary is full of narrative 

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message: A lot of the entries have errors, wrong release date, misspelled titles, a lot of feature films in the documentary section - just saying ins case someone is interested. I'd call this a stub.
Pontiuspilatus (talk) 10:54, 18 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Do over?