Talk:La Borinqueña

message: Are the Doña Lola lyrics listed here inadvertenly mixed with a Pachin Marín version of the poem? I only remember the first and last stanzas to be hers... Demf 13:53, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lola Rodríguez's lyrics mixed with others?

message: Perhaps it's just been too long (I've lived in the "Upper 48" for many years now), but I'm Puerto Rican and I can't recognize the music clip!  In spots it has some resemblance to the anthem of my youth, but in general it is not the song I remember, which was quite melodious and went well with the words.  Perhaps you can find a better musical version, or perhaps one with the words included.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cd195 (talk • contribs) 01:06, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music to La Borinquena 

message: I have replaced the references to La Borinqueña as a "national" anthem for "official" anthem.  While the use of "national" falls in the realm of political debate, the use of "official" is accurate, non-debatable, and politically correct. Pr4ever (talk) 07:52, 4 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: "Regional" is more apt here as a generic all-encompassing term for a sub-national entity (like a province), since "national" is usually reserved for sovereign countries (like the United Kingdom, for instance). – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:27, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official vs National 

message: I'm looking at the translation and the 3rd stanza looks off as far as translation goes. Currently up:
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It looks like someone did a rough Babelfish translation. I would translate it as thus:
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Agreed?
ThaRock1976 (talk) 19:02, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad Translation? 

message: What song is this? – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:27, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind, read the article. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 03:36, 22 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  What song is this? 

message: Anybody know more about the Luis Miranda mentioned in the article? Specifically, I'd like to know dates of birth and death for copyright verification purposes. – Illegitimate Barrister (talk • contribs), 17:46, 20 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Luis Miranda 

message: Saying this does not mean Puerto Rico is not an insular territory of the U.S. It's incorrect to call its food  a "Puerto Rican territorial dish" or a Puerto Rican territorial danza", or "Puerto Rican territorial music" or "Puerto Rican territorial identity".  The US is a sovereign state and Puerto Rico is not but Puerto Rico is a nation with its national identity, anthem, dish, music, etc.
Robin Moore who is an Ethnomusicologist at The University of Texas at Austin is the editor of Latin American Music Review, has researched PR and other latin countries and their music for 32 years. 
In his book "Music in the Hispanic Caribbean: Experiencing Music, Expressing Culture", published in December 2009, chapter 6 refers to "La Borinqueña" as Puerto Rico's National Anthem. 
As you can see here: 
* Music in the Hispanic Caribbean: Experiencing Music, Expressing Culture
* Book companion
In Jstor journal article-
("Puerto Rican Music and Cultural Identity: Creative Appropriation of Cuban Sources from Danza to Salsa", Vol. 38, No. 2, Music and Politics (Spring - Summer, 1994), pp. 249-280 (32 pages), Published by: University of Illinois Press on behalf of Society for Ethnomusicology- Ethnomusicologist), Peter Manuel writes about Puerto Rican music and uses the term "national" throughout the article, never referring to the music as "territorial" in nature. i.e. on pg 255 he states "But its claim to the status of national music has long been usurped by other genres, to which...". 
On page 3 of La colonia soberana: deportes olímpicos, Identidad nacional y política internacional en Puerto Rico published by CLASCO, The Latin American Council of Social Sciences (CLACSO) which "is an international non-governmental institution with associative status in UNESCO, created in 1967.", La Borinqueña is referred to as Puerto Rico's National Anthem, not Puerto Rico's territorial anthem. This one is interesting because it is where PR and the US square off in the Olympic games and both national anthems are played before the games. While Puerto Rico remains a colony of the United State it is a 'nation'. 
"Nation" does not mean 'sovereign state'. 
Also, did you know The Puerto Rican Coat of Arms is the oldest official national seal still used in the Americas. --The Eloquent Peasant (talk) 12:09, 14 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: National versus Official again