Talk:George Ferguson (politician)

message: What is the correct date of birth? Deb 11:48, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is there in the article. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:07, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: DOB

message: Weasel words removed, citations added and article expanded. Jezhotwells (talk) 13:43, 24 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peacock tag 

message: I've changed the priorities in the list of the TF's uses. It is primarily a performance venue (opera, theatre &c), not a retaurant and café bar. Ioan_Dyfrig (talk) 14:13, 15 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tobacco Factory 

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message: The inbox suggests that he has the nickname "Speeder" but it isn't explained anywhere. 83.104.249.240 (talk) 21:31, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: He doesn't. However our electric-car-driving, Radio-4-cycling "green" mayor has just been caught speeding, so the usual peanut gallery is having some fun at his expense. It's not a long-term nickname, it doesn't have any substantial use, it doesn't belong here. Andy Dingley (talk) 21:53, 25 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why "Speeder"? 

message: The article was moved in this edit on 12 April - without any prior discussion - from George Ferguson (Mayor of Bristol) to George Ferguson (UK Politician).  I have some mixed feelings about the move.  Although he was notable as an architect and urbanist, and in his political life is not affiliated to a particular party (which most UK politicians are), I can accept the description of him as a "politician".  But, surely it should be George Ferguson (politician) or George Ferguson (British politician) (except that there seem to be no other notable politicians of that name elsewhere), rather than the current version with UK and a capital P?  Views??  Ghmyrtle (talk) 14:52, 14 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we need to review the question of the article title following his defeat in the Mayoral election.   He has said: "I have had no political ambition beyond making Bristol great...  I did my very best for Bristol... and shall continue to do so outside politics for as long as I live."  (My emphasis.)  It is questionable, at least, whether someone who served one term as an elected but independent political figure should be disambiguated as a "politician".   Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:18, 23 May 2016 (UTC)
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message: Whilst practicing my techinal skills I’ve spotted a couple of wp:blp issues under the sub-section Public finances which I want to address. 
1. The public finances section combines 
And 
 
To support the sentence “Ferguson's management of the public purse has been controversial.”
I believe this is a form of original research known as WP:SYNTHESIS where the author has combined two or more sources to draw a new conclusion. 
2. The citation needed tag has been there for over three years. WP:CITATION NEEDED says;
"Do not tag controversial material about living people that is unsourced or poorly sourced. Remove it immediately!"
Now I’m not saying we should hastily delete it per the above, I think it would be better to find a reliable secondary source for “Questions were raised in the national press over Ferguson's role as mayor on the boards of several Local Enterprise Partnerships (LEPs). Criticism was made of the awarding of considerable sums of public money from those LEPs to companies Ferguson owned.”
But so far I can only find primary sources such as minutes from this parliamentary debate, where Labour’s Clive Lewis (politician) accused Ferguson of crony capitalism for receiving £50,000 for one of his brewing firms. However, I'm weary of using primary sources to support contentious statements about living people. As I mentioned in the template, I Googled articles specifically containing GF and LEPs and apart from the parliamentary minutes most of the results were either based on or mirrored from the WP article in question. Meaning, that whoever added the paragraph about LEPs has sparked an epistemic feedback loop reminiscent of the 2005 John Seigenthaler balls-up. If we are going to include something about the LEP we should at least put it in context i.e, 
“ During a debate on Local Enterprise Partnerships (LEP’s) Labour’s Clive Lewis (politician) accused Ferguson of receiving £50,000 for one of his own brewing firms while on the LEP board.”
Really though, I think we need to ask ourselves if none of the mainstream publications picked up the story then is it encyclopaedia worthy? The more I think about it the more I think WP:NOTNEWS applies?
In the meantime, I have tagged the section for possible original research in the form of both synthesis and unsourced material. 
3. I've also found a hard to verify contentious statement about a living person under [in architecture]. 
“In December 2014, the Architects Registration Board investigated George Ferguson for using the protected title 'Architect' without being registered on the register of architects per the Architects Act 1997. He admitted he had deliberately let his membership lapse and removed the term from his social media status.“  
This is sourced to a paywalled site so it’s quite hard to verify. I’ve had a look on Google to see if there’s an alternative source that we could use but so far I can’t find one. We’re supposed to remove poorly sourced contentious material per WP:BLPRS. Is there an alternative source that we can use? If not I’m going to wait for a reasonable amount of time for other editors to chime in and then remove it.Ch1p the chop (talk) 14:39, 1 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: BLP Issues