Talk:Masurians

message: Happy new years you guys and stay cool. You all belong to the european community now. The time for nationalistic and fascistic ideas is over now. The aim of wikipedia is to produce neutral information and is no platform for nationalistic propaganda. So you should not just delete information without comment. Maybe the better way is to discuss first before deleting. Obviously this site is quite controversy and the meaning of "mazur" is different for polish and for former mazurian inhabitants. Maybe this site could contain both sides of view and be a place for communication and peace, not for hatred and isolation. - Unfortunately this text was also deleted by space captain without comment, I would appreciate him to do something constructive on this site. Europa
Hello! I put them on the bottom of this page. I would never delete such words of wisdom, with or without comment. And the name is Space Admiral.
Congratulations to your quick promotion. Nevertheless I would appreciate you not just to copy, paste or delete, but explain why you do so. For example I do think, the example about germaniosation belongs to the site germanisation or Oletzko. Europa 
Sweetie, I would appreciate if You didn't post personal messages in articles but in their respective "Talk" pages. Failure to do so will always result in my immediate action without a question, warning, or "explanation". According to the definition, self-explanatory actions don't require explanation. Would You like me to explain this? Space Cadet 19:09, 1 Jan 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Older discussion

message: The article currently makes little difference between "Masovians" (from Masovia") and "Masurians" (from Masuria). This is despite the fact that Masurians were culturally and politically affected by being governed by German Prussia, while the Masovians were governed by Polish Masovia. The current title, "Mazurs", also seems odd, as "Masurs"/"Masurians" is the more common spelling in English than "Mazurs" (or "Mazurians"). Barring clarification, it makes sense to me to divide this into separate articles for Masurians and Masovians. Olessi 19:17, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Masurians/Masovians

message: What is the source of information that many Masurians emigrated to West Germany? According to my sources, many Masurians indeed emigrated from Poland, but not to West Germany but to the United States of America. Here you can read my (Domen121) post about Masurians - sources are provided, there is also a map from the excellent book about the state of the Teutonic Order in Prussia - I hope that you will find this post interesting and maybe it can help in improving this article:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=8921&p=1335510
But of course if you will use information from my post in this article, please also provide references to this link - with my post - given above.
Best regards! Cheers!
Peter558 (talk) 15:09, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Emigration of some Masurians from Poland after 1945

message: There are several WP articles using the term masurian, like Masuria, Masurian Lake District, Battle of the Masurian Lakes and off course Warmian-Masurian Voivodeship (just to name some) and a Google search also shows much more result for the "S" - variant. So I would suggest to use a consistent spelling, any objections? HerkusMonte (talk) 17:48, 12 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: "Masurians" is probably the right English language expression, so I suggest to move this page accordingly. HerkusMonte (talk) 09:36, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mazurs vs. Masurs 

message: move Anthony Appleyard (talk) 09:06, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mazurs → Masurians — (see talk page) 199.125.109.99 (talk) 13:01, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: I' ve enhanced the article a little bit. First of all I provided a source for the centuries of emigration. I've actually read that even before the 14th century Masovians settled in Masuria. The Old Prussians used to "kidnap" Masovians and settle them in their lands (simmilar to what Lithuanians did in Podlasie). Those Old Prussian raids were one of the reasons that Conrad of Masovia invited the Teutonic Knights and granted them with Chełmno Land in the first place.  So the ancestery of the Polish existance in Masuria is even longer than I wrote but unfortunately I cant find this book anywhere right now.
I provided also the source for the reason of emigration and I gave an info about the different views on Masurians - officials/scholars.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.238.122.133 (talk) 09:59, 4 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  My edits 

message: She is one-quarter Masurian. Historian932 (talk) 03:50, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: So am I. Will you kindly include me as well. Unoffensive text or character (talk) 09:11, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Include Angela Merkel in list? 

message: It's too much attention to relations between Mazurs and Nazis in this article, I think. My grandfather fight against nazis. But in this articles we see that "Mazur = Nazi"... 
In any area where German Nazi was coming, they found local scumbags, and gave them power.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.179.15.64 (talk) 10:59, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The role of Nazis in pre-war Masuria is barely mentioned. A single sentence about the high results in the elections of 1932/33 and the usage of the Masurian language in the campaigns is hardly "too much attention". HerkusMonte (talk) 07:10, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nazi Theme 

message: I am not happy about the passage During World War Two the Nazis persecuted and killed Polish speakers in Masuria.
They certainly did, no doubt, as there still was a high percentage of Polish speakers and Nazis persecuted and killed many people. 
However, the question is whether they systematically persecuted and killed persons for speaking Polish. And if they did, this will need to be sourced more clearly. Just referencing a collection of essays is not sufficient to my mind. Unoffensive text or character (talk) 07:43, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, the accessible part of the source doesn't mention the fate of Polish-speakers in Masuria. HerkusMonte (talk) 16:03, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately this passage is incorrect. The persecution and murder of Polish speakers in Masuria started before Nazis were elected to power. I will add on this.
--MyMoloboaccount (talk) 20:51, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nazi regime 

message: This article should deal with the ethnic group of the Masurians, not Masuria or the History of Masuria. We should try to keep the proper topic and avoid a content fork. HerkusMonte (talk) 06:52, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Masurians vs. Masuria 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Can we try and get a reference for this please. Does independent just mean not part of the Crown Lands rather than independent of the Crown here? Kind Regards, NotAnotherNameGuy (talk) 06:53, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Protestants coming from the Duchy of Masovia, which was independent until 1526"?