Template talk:Family tree

message: Maintainers of this template may be interested in the issues raised at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2007 June 4#Template:Kennedyfamilytree. –Pomte 21:28, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transcluded [[Wikipedia:Template limits|template limits]] 

message: Can we do anything about the problem with large trees? Like making the template work with them? I encountered the problem at User:Canaen/ClanFraserLineage.  Canæn  06:24, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Large Family Tree? 

message: There's still the problem at Julio-Claudian family tree of having to use dashed lines for both marriages and adoption.  If we could either fit more marriage connections (I don't see a way to get more than one horizontal connection per side per row) or get another set of lines like a dotted or double line, then the ambiguity could be solved.  I guess it's too much to hope for numbering marriages, too, but any suggestions are welcome as we lost a lot of information switching from : Image:JulioClaudian.svg.  — Laura Scudder ☎ 01:53, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For dotted lines, see the new  template. TimR (talk) 18:16, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adoption problem 

message: "]" and "{" don't align properly at the moment, although "C" and "(" do. See
(Nothing major, but if someone is familiar enough with the template syntax, he may be able to fix it. I'd rather not mess with it myself.) – sgeureka t•c 15:13, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I've [ fixed it].  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 19:27, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Woohoo! Thanks. :-) – sgeureka t•c 19:32, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor errors 

message: See Habsburg family tree. Thanks, Mark J (talk) 13:31, 23 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You can put more boxes with no borders. See pl:template:Tolkienowie. --pl:user:Matma Rex  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.29.158.246 (talk) 11:37, 31 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How do I make the boxes wider? 

message: I've been extremely impressed with this set of templates, and have made some worthwhile use of them already. However, I became a little frustrated with quite how much preprocessor resource they consumed. On one page I found that putting just a few medium-sized trees on an already-large page was enough to break the rendering, which was a shame.
As a result, I put some considerable effort into rewriting the template set to make more efficient use of the preprocessor, to allow larger trees. Of course, nothing's simple, and shortly after I got a sensible and extensible solution, the preprocessor was updated. The familytree template fares a lot better under the new preprocessor, rendering my changes less urgent.
However, I was able to entend the functionality slightly to include two new solid/dashed mixed tiles and a whole new set of dotted and solid/dotted mixed tiles. For further details on how to use the new set of templates, and how to migrate existing family tree diagrams to new chart diagrams, see the  template page. TimR (talk) 18:14, 10 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New chart template 

message: addition of [ [ Category:Genealogy templates| ] ]
: No; this template is itself not an actual template of a specific genealogy. It's used to format other genealogy templates. Gary King (talk) 00:11, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this page be added to the following category 

message: I've raised my concerns about the accessibility of this template. Please comment, and help to improve it. Andy Mabbett | Talk to Andy Mabbett 19:38, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accessibility 

message: I've created a tool to make it easier to create or update diagrams using these templates. It allows you to edit the diagram in pure ASCII art, similar to how Ilmari had originally envisioned. Check out User:GregU/familytree.js and let me know any problems or other feedback, as I'm still adding things. --GregU (talk) 16:40, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  New tool 

message: How can I add an image into these boxes? Ikip (talk) 01:48, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: opps, nevermind, it works. Ikip (talk) 01:50, 29 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Images/Files/Photos allowed

message: Looking at the example
do we really want dashes between married partners?  To me it suggests they were not married and something like the following 
would be better if they are married.  --Rumping (talk) 07:55, 31 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Dashed line

message: Please add this interwiki link : tr:Şablon:Aileağacı.
Thanks.
87.67.230.164 (talk) 16:48, 24 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: interwiki

message: Try creating a PDF of Pope Benedict IX for example. I don't know if this is a problem with the template (bad html) or with the renderer. Headbomb {ταλκκοντριβς – WP Physics} 21:04, 20 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Doesn't look right in print 

message: Can someone Make a variant like option "T", but with a Dashed Line on top & to the left and a solid line to the right? Thanks -- Phoenix (talk) 11:57, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This code looks fairly tortuous and I don't think that is going to be a quick job. The only thing I can say at this point is to ask you to try to add the code to the /sandbox version. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 15:53, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Option U is ready and waiting . -- Phoenix (talk) 21:00, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, that wasn't so hard. Can you just confirm that you've fully tested it and that it's working as intended? — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 07:24, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have, it works, and it is ready for your edit. I thought that the person who made this page would easily edit this and add that function. Glad to see that I can still decipher code that I am not familiar with :) -- Phoenix (talk) 07:38, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 11:04, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  It would be nice to have one like U, except the top line is solid. Ideally, to get all the rest of the combinations. I am just missing that one specifically... — MK (t/c) 23:09, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Option 

message: I've now used this template on a number of pages - some of the Italian noble families from the 16th an 17th centuries. The names and relationships get complicated (over-use of the same first names makes distinguishing one generation from another very difficult) but this template has made the explaination of inter-generational relationships far easier. The articles for members of these families are full of references to grand-uncle and mother's brother's wife, etc. but this template makes everything far easier. See:
*Pamphili
*Barberini
*House of Mattei
And my sand-box sub-page in all it's code-heavy glory:
*User:Stalwart111/Barberini family tree
Still a few to go but it's a start.
Stalwart111 (talk) 06:16, 17 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: In practice

message: I would like to have Springett Penn (II), grandson of William Penn by his first wife, added to the family tree, but the tree source is intimidating, so I would like someone with the skills needed to add him. --DThomsen8 (talk) 16:17, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: . It gets easier the more you use it - have a look at my user sub-page. I kept hacking and slashing away until I had worked it out. Now I can put them together fairly quickly. Have a good one! Stalwart111 (talk) 23:07, 24 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Springett Penn (II)]], grandson of [[William Penn]] 

message: Can someone please fix up the family tree? there are quite a dew hiccups.
1) aahmes wife of thutmose I was his sister, not a daughter of amenhotep I, can we put that in? also mutnofret, his other wife is believed to be the daughter of ahmose I, can we show this?
2) neferure was a wife of thutmose III. can we put her on his left, and put merytre hatshepsut on his right?
towards the bottom:
3) can we connect the following as daughters of akhenaten by nefertiti: meketaten, ankhesenamun, meritaten, setepenre, neferneferuaten tasherit and neferneferure
4) can we replace the younger lady with kiya, and connect meritaten tasheit and ankhsenpaaten tasherit as daughters by akhenaten and kiya?
5) can we place smenkhkare and the younger lady as children of amenhotep III and tiye? (the younger lady on smenkhkare's left, and meritaten on his right. she was his queen. if the younger lady and smenkhkare come down past their siblings they can sit on the same level akhenaten's daughters. tutankhamun comes down, and if ankhesenamun comes further down then her sister, you can connect her to tutankhamun and everything still looks good!)
6) tutankhamun needs to be placed as a son of the younger lady and her brother smenkhkare, and he needs to connect with ankhsenamun as his wife.
--slimmon  —Preceding undated comment added 10:41, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Family tree of the Eighteenth dynasty of Egypt

message: Can someone help me color code the boxes on Johanna Marau Ta‘aroa#Family tree base on gender? — Preceding unsigned comment added by KAVEBEAR (talk • contribs) 06:13, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, Kavebear. I have partially updated the template. I didn't know the gender of many of the entries so I couldn't complete it. The pattern should be clear now if you wish to finish it. Jason Quinn (talk) 02:23, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I finished the tree using the genders specified in the article. Note there's a remaining problem over the total number of children (9 vs 10) that I've tagged with a dubious template. Jason Quinn (talk) 02:37, 22 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colorcoding boxes 

message: Could the documentation provide more examples(?), as it still is quite confusing using this template. I can do add one or two examples, but not very complex ones. |Randomno| 17:04, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  More examples 

message: There is background grid and the:
appears as a:
-Oosh (talk) 00:36, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rendering issues on Android (4.01) browser 

message: Hi can someone with a better working knowledge take a look at this (scroll about a full page down): 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_tree_of_ancient_Chinese_emperors#Wu_.28state.29
and see what might be causing the empty boxes with {{{}}} in them? Thanks. Hanfresco (talk) 07:53, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It was caused by double spaced blank cells (|  |). Shame it went unfixed for almost a year! --xensyriaT 19:55, 5 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family tree of ancient Chinese kings 

message: I'm working on a little pedigree ATM, and noticed that there are some missing combinations. Can someone add these? For example: "(" but with an added dashed-line coming out of the right side.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 09:57, 16 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing some 

message: Should this template be deprecated?  seems to do everything this does. Am I wrong? Is there something that this does that chart cannot? Jason Quinn (talk) 04:13, 23 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi Jason. Yeah, there are instructions for converting family tree templates over to chart templates. I've used this one on a few of the articles I've expanded but wouldn't mind if they were changed over. Seems to make sense. Stalwart111 05:16, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

text: That's fine by me. Are we actually going to work to transfer existing uses of the template over? Stalwart111 03:20, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: My intention to to eventually mark this template as obsolete, and then perhaps even have it deleted. But it's okay in my opinion even if that takes years, after all we've lived with both for some time already. I have already been converting  templates to  as part of an on-going (but slowly paced) project of mine to add pink and blue gender backgrounds to some of these family trees. There are surprisingly few uses of "Family tree" in :Category:Family tree templates but a transclusion count finds almost 2400; so I've only done a drop in the bucket. We could put a request in the deprecated template note above to convert over to the chart template if possible. There's no real pressure to force ourselves to convert all of them in a short time. There's value in just deprecating this template and encouraging only uses of "Chart" in the future. In time, hopefully, uses of "Family tree" will slowly fade away. Jason Quinn (talk) 22:23, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: That all sounds very sensible! Stalwart111 23:47, 2 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should this be deprecated? 

message: thumb|rendering problem IE vs Chrome in Win XP
I am seeing a consistent rendering problem with all family tree templates. I tried converting one to chart, but this didn't help. See example. Jane (talk) 15:30, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Which version of IE are you using? JPG-GR (talk) 20:47, 16 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  Same rendering problem suddenly emerged for me.  It was fine only a couple of days ago. (I'm using Chrome). Not sure what changed in that interval. Walrasiad (talk) 01:02, 10 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text:  Same problem for me. I am using the latest version of Chrome. Tochozhang (talk) 05:10, 12 January 2014 (UTC)

text: Template talk:Chart#Lone boxes collapsing. --  Gadget850 talk 03:18, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Problem solved. Details at the link the editor listed above. Short version: All table rows must have the same number of cells or Chrome collapses the row.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.74.21.38 (talk) 19:06, 1 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Rendering issue

message: When can I use Visual Redactor to edit Template:Family tree?--Kaiyr (talk) 13:54, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: no clue, but this template is deprecated in favour of using template:chart. Frietjes (talk) 18:34, 7 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Visual Redactor 

message: The character at the bottom right of each nine-part set is now showing as an inverted T rather than a simple right-angle.  Can someone fix this, please.   Bikeroo (talk) 06:35, 9 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: There is indeed a problem. An extra line appear at the bottom right of some boxes. Error picture. Why nobody is fixing it?   Daduxing (talk) 16:31, 10 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  which browser/os?  I don't see any problem in Later Tang. Frietjes (talk) 21:26, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi. The problem was solved some days ago. Wikipedia:Village pump (technical)/Archive 135#Family tree template problem ---Daduxing (talk) 06:09, 16 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent change 

message: Please replace with the current version of the sandbox (diff) to actually show the documentation referred to, as well as eliminate the need for a hard-coded category because the documentation page already transcludes the category. Thanks, --DannyS712 (talk) 01:18, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done – Jonesey95 (talk) 06:33, 29 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template-protected edit request on 29 March 2019 

message: I have created a set of test cases for the migration of  to  at Template:Family tree/testcases.
Two types of potential error in the migration are tested for:
# Use of tiles that have changed and empty cells as per the instructions at Template:Tree chart#Migration from familytree.
# Use of box names (that get substituted for the actual content of the boxes) that clash with Tree chart's tile names.
If requested I could write up the rational for the test cases and how complete coverage is ensured.
I have assumed that all cases are covered by the documentation of both  and . If this is not the case, then there will be missing cases.
The previous content of the test page was:
Tango Mike Bravo (talk) 14:36, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Test cases for migration