Talk:Scottish Canadians

message: The Scotland Portal is now up and running. It is a project in the early stages of development, but I think it could be a very useful resource indeed, perhaps more for general readers (the vast majority I presume), rather than committed editors, who may be more attracted by the great possibilities of the notice board format: Wikipedia:Scottish Wikipedians' notice board.
Give it a Watch, and lend a hand if you can. It is (hopefully) fairly low-maintenance, but if we run with the "News" section, that will take dedication: time which I cannot commit to presently myself. Most other boxes need replacment/update only weekly, fortnightly, or monthly, plus the occasional refreshment of the Scotland-related categories. Anyway, I assume this is how the other Portals are run, so we can follow their lead.
Please add the following code -  - to your own User page, and you will have the link to the portal right there for easy access. I will investigate how other portals use shortcuts too.
Assistance from Wikipedians in the rest of the world would be greatly appreciated!--Mais oui! 09:20, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Portal:Scotland|Scotland Portal]] 

message: This list is and will be vast and needs suborganization by field, province, etc.  Scots are the dominant social/cultural group in CAnadian history, even though the English are more numerous; in politics, business, culture and more, there's lots of notables in all provicnes; and sooner or later people are going to add them all; so some thought on how to organize this in the layout-concept here seems needed.Skookum1 14:48, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Notable Scottish Canadians....

message: The "Scott MacDonald" listed here as a freedom fighter links to a Scott MacDonald in the band "The Spoons".  I'm guessing this isn't correct. 205.206.131.152 22:26, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Scott MacDonald

message: This page is in need of an update can any scottish Canadian wikipedians assist? (Blacksands 10:39, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Update

message: I have assessed this as B Class, although it needs inline citations, and of mid importance, as I feel that the topic plays a strong role in the understanding of the history of Canada. Cheers, CP 03:23, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment 

message: Don't make three copies of every article.  Use redirects!  Kevlar67 09:11, 5 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Merged under Scottish Canadian. Mr. Absurd (talk) 05:59, 13 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just pick a title and stick with it please! 

message: Hi.  Just added the statistically important numbers for self-reported Scottish heritage as single responses.  Interestingly, in Quebec and New Brunswick, these values sort the provinces differently in relation to eachother.  This is likely because of the contemporary influence of Galicization or the climate of nationalization of non-Anglophone Canadians as distinct ethnic groups.  
I also added Alistair MacLeod to the famous Scots-Canadians.  Don't know how he was overlooked!!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.216.227.191 (talk) 04:37, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additions 

message: This article could use a large section on the integral role of Scots in the fur trade (in both the Hudson's Bay Company and North West Company, as well as the resulting Anglo-Metis population in Western Canada. These seem like pretty big omissions to me.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.233.112.142 (talk) 22:08, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Fur Trade, [[Metis]] and [[Anglo-Metis]] Populations 

message: In British Columbia, the word "about" is pronounced "aboat". Like in Scotland! The language patterns should get included into the article, by a professional linguist. 93.219.174.83 (talk) 20:16, 27 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  aboat - about pronounciation 

message: I've thought about arranging the photos in the display box but it's beyond my expertise at the moment (without messing up or taking enough shots on it). So my question is: is there a reason they're like that? I eat BC Fish (talk) 21:07, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo arrangement 

message: Why must the brief mention of the eminent -- widely regarded as great -- Canadians Tommy Douglas and Ken Galbraith referring to themselves and their backgrounds as "Scotch" rather than "Scottish" be excluded? This is history. The people who so-referred to themselves were excluded in the Highlands Clearances. I recently encountered a picture-framer here in Brisbane, Australia, who had a strong Gaelic accent and I exclaimed to him that that was the first language in my family till the 1970s. But that we have a lightly different term for the ethnicity that was undoubtedly his. He responded, "Oh, I doubt that. Far more of us in Canada than in Scotland. We copy them and call ourselves "Scotch." Should I scan the cover of Ken Galbraith's 1993 book "The Scotch" to be attached to this section? Masalai (talk) 12:13, 26 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It was published in 1964. Other editors seem ignorant or oblivious of the fact that the immigrants from Scotland were after the Highland Clearances: All Gaelic-speakers and referring to themselves not as "Scottish," which is an Anglo-Saxon usage. Is it not appropriate to continue reference to Galbraith and to Tommy Douglas? Masalai (talk) 04:27, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exclusion of the historically general term "Scotch" in Canada 

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Afghan Canadian which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 22:16, 13 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Move discussion in progress

message: Two of the most eminent Canadians, historically, were Tommy Douglas John Kenneth Galbraith and Douglas and Galbraith determinately referred to themselves as Scotch, not Scottish Canadian. Both were descended from the Highland Clearances and their families were not Anglo-Saxon but Celtic, who spoke Gaelic rather than English as their first language. Indeed, Galbraith while in New Delhi 1961-63 as Jack Kennedy's US ambassador wrote the book he was proudest of till his life's end in 2006 at age 97: "The Scotch." His London publisher objected: "You can't use that term: obsolete and offensive." He responded, "It's by, about and for Scotch Canadians and that's what we call ourselves." The compromise was the title of the British edition: "The Non-potable Scotch." Is it far too academic to distinguish between Anglophone Scots and Gaelic-speaking Scotch? I a few days back encoutn4red a painting-framer here in Australia who had an accent that clearly indicated that his first language was Gaelic, as was my families till the 1970s when I came into adulthood. I exclaimed in delight that that was first language in my family till the 1970s but we have a slightly different term for the ethnicity. "Oh no. Far more of us in Canada than in Scotland and we copy them: we call ourselves Scotch." Masalai (talk) 04:39, 2 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Why are you making the same point in several sections. It's confusing. You should keep the discussion in one section.
Masalai has been asked repeatedly for citations supporting his opinion but he insists upon repeating the same anecdotes, here and elsewhere, regarding his picture-framer, Galbraith, and Douglas.  Now he's provided us with an image of the cover of a book published over 50 years ago, as if that somehow enhances his credibility.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by SerBronn (talk • contribs) 16:31, 7 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Is this bare title essential?

message: Forgive me for repeating myself. But I have now employed an art expert in a nearby store to mount my tapestry, some 200 years old. His surname and accept indicated to me clearly that first language is Gaelic, as it was in my family till the 1970s. "But a slightly different term for ethnicity among us than you." "Oh no. Far more of us in 
Canada than in Scotland, and we copy you. We're 'Scotch.'" Beyond the two most famous Canadians who frequently described themselves as "Scotch" -- Tommy Douglas and Ken Galgraith -- why is that an issue at all in this article? Anglo-Saxon lowlanders of Scotland of course call themselves "Scottish," but highlanders as "Scotch." Indeed, a cousin whose mother was dean of law in Edmonton recently visited his maternal ancestral homeland of Iceland figuring he could practise his mother's native language. No luck: Icelanders all said to him -- insisting on English -- "You must be aware we are half Scotch, aren't you?" Can the article's heading not be amended? Masalai (talk) 09:44, 8 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: "Scottish Canadian"??

message: (Copied from Talk:Outlander (novel)#Ethnonyms for Gaels)
I've noticed that this article refers to Scottish Gaels as "Highlanders" and in general conflates Gaels with Lowlanders. This is very misleading, as Gaels and Lowlanders thought of each other as separate ethnic groups. In Scottish Gaelic, the Gaels would have referred to themselves as "Gàidheil" and to non-Gaelic-speakers (whether Scottish or English) as "Gall" (which translates to foreigner). The preferred name for Gaelic-speaking Scots in scholarly publications is Gaels, not Highlanders, which can be misleading. Please see Michael Newton. Warriors of the Word: The World of the Scottish Highlanders. Birlinn, 2009. for an explanation or read Newton's blog. Alázhlis (talk) 04:05, 14 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethnonyms for Gaels 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello, can someone change the graph relating to the number who descend from Scottish ancestry in demographics, as it incorrectly states 'population (millions)', when actual numbers are shown as million, meaning that the current population is nearing five trillion. Can someone fix this please. Cheers.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Essexman03 (talk • contribs) 09:03, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Incorrect graph

message: Where are these figures coming from?  Are there nearly a million people in France of Scottish-Canadian origin?  That seems incredibly implausible. 2600:1702:6D0:5160:3033:97D9:236B:A57D (talk) 14:24, 30 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other countries