Talk:Chamic languages

message: "The Cham language is very similar to Vietnamese and has aspects of Mon-Khmer."
Please source this sentence. I don't think Cham is anything like Vietnamese. It certainly isn't "very similar" to it. Maybe whoever inserted this was confused. I'm not sure what "aspects of Mon-Khmer" refers to. Do you mean it has borrowed from Mon-Khmer languages? Grace Note 04:41, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That was presumably referring to a close typological structural agreement of Cham with Vietnamese and Mon–Khmer in general. It seems to have been strongly influenced by a Bahnaric (?) substrate, Khmer adstrate and Vietnamese superstrate, all of which belong to Mon–Khmer, leading to a striking superficial similarity indeed in pronunciation (phonology), grammar (syntax) and vocabulary (lexicon), even though Cham is not a Mon–Khmer language, of course, but of Austronesian origin. See metatypy for the general phenomenon. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 13:29, 29 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources for this please 

message: Twice removed the Ethnologue classification. It's just Thurgood, which we already have. — kwami (talk) 17:04, 29 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethn. classification 

message: http://csuchico.academia.edu/GrahamThurgood
http://www.csuchico.edu/~gthurgood/GWT%20CV%20SEA.doc
http://www.academia.edu/2875723/Crawfurd_s_1822_Malay_of_Champa
http://www.academia.edu/4162111/Long-term_bilingualism_and_Cham_linguistic_structures
http://www.academia.edu/2875814/The_Austronesian_and_Mon-Khmer_components_in_the_proto-Chamic_vowel_system
http://www.academia.edu/2875807/Learnability_and_direction_of_convergence_in_Cham_the_effects_of_long-term_contact_on_linguistic_structures
http://www.academia.edu/2875757/The_grammaticalization_paths_of_Proto-Chamic_hu_receive
https://www.academia.edu/2875849/Hainan_Cham_Anong_and_Eastern_Cham_Three_Languages_Three_Social_Contexts_Three_Patterns_of_Change
Haroi language
http://www.academia.edu/2875764/Restructured_register_in_Haroi_Reconstructing_its_historical_origins
http://www.academia.edu/2875672/HRE_CONTACT_AND_THE_ORIGINS_OF_THE_HAROI_RESTRUCTURED_REGISTER_SYSTEM_A_CASE_OF_SHARED_SOUND_CHANGES1
Tsat language
http://www.academia.edu/2875740/From_Malayic_to_Sinitic_The_Restructuring_of_Tsat_under_Intense_Contact
http://www.academia.edu/2875716/Hainan_Cham_and_the_Chamic_noun_classifiers_New_data_on_an_old_system
http://www.academia.edu/2875693/From_atonal_to_tonal_in_Utsat_a_Chamic_language_of_Hainan_
Acehnese language
http://www.academia.edu/2875654/The_historical_place_of_Acehnese_the_known_and_the_unknown
Rajmaan (talk) 18:18, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Graham Thurgood on Chamic 

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