Talk:Have a Cigar

message: Is it true that Roger Waters couldn't sing this song due to an illness and that Gilmour didn't want to fill in?  Who did sing it?  I read this somewhere: "I've heard two reasons why Roy Harper sang it rather than Roger Waters or David Gilmour. A website said both were having trouble with the vocals and, since Harper was in the same studio doing his own stuff, they asked him. Another version (I think this came from a Gilmour interview) said neither of them felt like doing it so they asked Roy. The deal was Harper would do the vocals for season tickets for cricket from Roger, which he never received." 05:22, 8 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, that's correct, it is Roy Harper as mentioned in the article. Doc Strange 19:10, 12 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Disregarding pitch (yes, the vocal is in the high range), Waters didn't have the kind of aggressive, cocksure, swaggering, gutsy voice the song calls for, while Harper did have just that. The vocal has to sound like someone who is damn sure he knows what he's talking about and who feels he's on a high, owning the whole town (and it has to have this all the more because we realize the character is clueless). Mick Jagger, Chrissie Hynde or Sting would have done it roughly the same way, while  Lou Reed or Marvin Gaye (both of whom would have loved and understood the lyrics) would probably not have been able to do it convincingly. Waters portrayed a deluded rock star in One of My Turns on The Wall (said to be inspired by Roy Harper's offstage antics at Knebworth in 1975) but if you listen to that track, it's not really convincing in the way he uses his voice. The lyrics are very funny, but the vocal has a half-whiny tone and a detachedness that make it sort of abstract. You don't really feel that it's Steven Tyler having a fit and smashing up his hotel room.Strausszek (talk) 16:48, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Vocalist is whom?

message: Okay, I know that the "who played bass on what" issue is contentious. But is there "Additional bass guitar" by Gilmour or isn't there? It's likely that he did play at least part of it on this song — his playing is more fluid and melodic than Roger's more rhythmic, harmonically-simple playing. Still, it's obvious that there are at least two basslines here (one of which is a clavinet), hence "additional", but then perhaps Roger didn't play anything at all on this track. Any suggestions on how this might be clarified? BotleySmith 19:13, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoops, I didn't realize Gilmour played bass on "Shine On" part 8. The article is fine now... BotleySmith 17:45, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personnel 

message: Have Floyd ever performed Have a Cigar live with Roger on vocals? I just wonder what the song would sound like with the originally intended man singing it. -Robski  11:30, 16th August 2006 (GMT)
: Yes, there are many bootleg recordings of Roger performing the vocals (with David providing harmonies) from the 1975-1977 tours. BotleySmith 22:03, 16 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Live Version

message: Am moving the reference to other people's cover versions to a new trivia sub-section. 83.180.184.252 01:09, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  cover versions - trivia 

message: In the third paragraph of 'composition' the word 'rumour' is used twice. The first time it is spelt the American way and the second time, the English Way ("hanging on in quiet desperation is the English way" - name that lyric). Which spelling do we go for? The double use sounds clumsy anyway, that should be tidied up. Milstrom 22:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: British English should always per used for articles with a British focus/ As such, the spelling has been changed to rumour. hedpeguyuk 20:27, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rumor/rumour 

message: There is a school of thought that the rhythm instrument changes from clavinet to guitar.  The opening riff is clavinet and bass and not guitar for the first 11 bars of the song, then switches to guitar and from there back and forth between the two. Gr8ful ken (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 21:29, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guitar and/or Clavinet 

message: The text alongside the media file states ""Have a Cigar" was sung by Roy Harper, something that Waters later regretted." Is there a source or citation to back this up? There is nothing in the article itself or anything that alludes to any regret. Stephenjh (talk) 16:38, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Water's 'Regret' 

message: »"Shine On You Crazy Diamond" (Parts I–V) (Italian and French singles)«
-- wait a minute! A 13-minute track on a 7" single? Can somebody confirm that? Thx! 85.179.16.210 (talk) 16:39, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Presumably it was cut, perhaps had just parts III-V which would land at under six minutes.83.254.151.33 (talk) 01:54, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  This one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMC0WYgIyFA 85.177.89.244 (talk) 22:25, 3 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  B-Side 

message: Does anybody feel this is hard rock-ish? It has that same vibe Money and other hard rocking songs do.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.81.33.59 (talk) 03:20, 18 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hard rock 

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