Talk:Shaken, not stirred

message: I removed the following from the section "Why shaken, not stirred".*In the 2006 film Casino Royale, a bartender asks Bond if he would like his martini shaken or stirred, to which Bond replies "do I look like I give a damn?"
It repeats the dialogue presented in the intro paragraph. --Pavithran 18:12, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This shouldn't be in the intro anyway. I moved it into "Preparation." This section should probably be renamed. Perhaps "History" or something like that since it is more or less an overview of Bond's history with shaking his martini. K1Bond007 06:28, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed repetition

message: Since first being muttered by James Bond in the 1964 film, Goldfinger, "shaken, not stirred" has become a catchphrase in western popular culture. 
*In the third season of the TV series The West Wing an episode is titled "Stirred" and President Josiah Bartlet insists that the preparation makes for a weak libation, saying, "James is ordering a weak martini and being snooty about it." 
*In the Star Trek: Deep Space Nine episode "Badda-Bing Badda Bang," Doctor Julian Bashir orders a vodka martini "stirred, not shaken."
* In one scene in the videogame Super Mario RPG, Toad states that he is "shaken, but not stirred."
* Fictional janitor and galactic hero Roger Wilco of the Space Quest computer game series, created by Sierra, orders a martini "Hacked and whipped, not shaken or stirred like those sissy drinks". at a bar on Polysorbate LX in Space Quest 6.
* Country music artist Phil Vassar's third album was titled Shaken Not Stirred.  In one song on the album, "Here to Forget", there is a line "I dig these dirty martinis, and I like them shaken not stirred, I come here every evening, just to get my mind off of her."
* In The Santa Clause an elf brings Santa a hot chocolate shaken, not stirred.
* The third episode of Blackadder the Third, "Nob and Nobility," includes the famous line in an exchange of dialogue between Edmund Blackadder (Rowan Atkinson) and Lord Topper (Tim McInnerny):
::Edmund: But perhaps before Lord Topper starts to talk, he might like a glass of wine. He's looking a little shaken.
::Topper: Shaken, but not stirred.
* In Short Circuit, the character Dr. Marner has a drink prepared by the robot, Number Two, and responds with "Mmm, just the way I like it. Shaken, but not stirred."
: I'm posting this here, just for posterity. I'm editing down the section significantly.  --  Zanimum 15:47, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cultural references

message: That section on fusel oil makes no sense at all. It should be removed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.111.197.7 (talk) 12:55, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree; it smells of OR. I'll take it out. Carl.bunderson (talk) 23:56, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fusel oil 

message: The article states "Ironically, while playing Bond, Moore never ordered one, although he received one in The Spy Who Loved Me"
and also states that "Roger Moore's Bond has barely ordered more than three, although he has received one in the 1977 film The Spy Who Loved Me."
So, did he order 0 or order 3?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spartacus007 (talk • contribs) 17:56, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roger Moore 

message: In the "Other Drinking Habits", it ought to be mentioned that Bond drinks Sake in You Only Live Twice, and commends his Japanese host for serving it at the proper (heated) temperature. My understanding, however, is that fine Sake is actually served cold. --12.32.87.3 (talk) 19:30, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sake 

message: I did some own research that I would like to share.
It is true that vodka's and martini have different density, different specific weight and show some degree of immiscibility when mixed in a proper way.
clouds of one liquid into the other when properly mixed can give an element of surprise. you'll never know what's next when having some properly shaken vodka martini.  Would it be martini's dominant sweetness, or vodka would punch your tongue hard?
just my 2c.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.167.13.156 (talk) 00:46, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  vodka martini and the element of surprise. 

message: Apparently the Telegraph reported some fallacious information from a previous version of this article stating that Bond drank a Heineken: ...he has slummed it and drunk beer before. Heineken was his choice in Goldfinger."
This is apparently an issue as fandom is in an uproar:
* http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/04/06/shaken-up-james-bond-will-swig-a-heineken-instead-of-a-martini-in-skyfall/
* http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/compost/post/bond-heineken-im-shaken-and-stirred/2012/04/04/gIQA4HtkvS_blog.html
* http://news.sky.com/home/showbiz-news/article/16203193
* http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/features/james-bond-ditches-vodka-martinis-for-heineken-7615415.html
And so on.  However, I did a search in Goldfinger via Amazon.  No Heineken.  And I dug a little further.  Apparently it's a Löwenbräu.  From: http://brookstonbeerbulletin.com/james-bonds-beer/ (this info might be good to mix in):
* In Diamonds Are Forever, Fleming’s fourth Bond novel, 007 takes Bill Tanner to lunch at Scotts where he orders a Black Velvet, which is a mixed pint of champagne and Guinness.
* Later in the same novel, while driving to Saratoga with C.I.A. compatriot Felix Leiter, they stop at roadside greasy spoon called “Chicken in a Basket” where Leiter and Bond have Miller High Life with their lunch.
* In Goldfinger, the seventh novel, while chasing the villian through Europe, Bond washed down his lunch at Geneva’s Bavaria brasserie with Löwenbräu beer.
* In The Hildebrand Rarity, one of the short stories in the collection published under the title For Your Eyes Only, after circling an island in a boat Bond stops for a chicken salad sandwich and a “cold beer” from a cooler. This story first appeared in Playboy magazine in 1960.
* In On Her Majesty’s Secret Service, the 11th novel (excluding the short stories), Bond has four steins of Franziskaner at the Franziskaner Keller with his taxi driver to celebrate his engagement to Tracy. It is in effect his bachelor party and when he’s reunited with his fiancee, she accuses him of smelling “like a pig of beer and sausages.”
* In The Man With the Golden Gun, Fleming’s 13th novel, while searching for Scaramanga, Bond orders a Red Stripe in the Dreamland Cafe and has two more before he leaves.
* In The Living Daylights, part of a second short story collection, this one published under the title Octopussy and the Living Daylights, Bond has a lunch of salted herring and two draft Löwenbräus.
When this sentence was added, "In Goldfinger, he favours Heineken," no citation was given.  So I have removed it.
TuckerResearch (talk) 02:36, 7 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bond the beer-drinker 

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message: Do we have any videos showing a martini being made both ways? If not, we should make one to illustrate this article, which currently doesn't have any illustrations. Daniel Case (talk) 00:24, 21 September 2017 (UTC)
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thread_title:  External links modified (January 2018) 

message: I re-worked the Bon bois quote a bit. It talked about Fins Bois, but that's not in the cited source or any other source I checked, and I don't believe it's correct. Fins bois and Bon bois are two different things; see Cognac.
I used a different source, a book that seems more reliable than the web page that had been cited, and adjusted the quote and links appropriately. Kendall-K1 (talk) 15:43, 31 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bon bois 

message: It strikes me that the text in Sec. 1.1, Novels, regarding modern substitutions for the discontinued Kina Lillet, and apparently sourced to a specific London bartender, is outside the scope of the article.  It might be nice to know how to make a drink, with current ingredients, similar to the ones Bond drank in the novels, but Wikipedia is not a recipe book.  Spike-from-NH (talk) 23:58, 1 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kina Lillet 

message: Bond prefers the '69 vintage although that may just have been a quip (Moonraker). 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:3453:7AF8:7F0:AFDF (talk) 15:39, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bolinger