Talk:Schipperke

message: The geographical dispersion of MPSIIB hasn't been considered. There is an opinion that the mutation probably commenced in North America and that the % of population figure is perhaps relevant for that continent.
Philip Semmel          Philipsemmel (talk) 23:39, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  MPSIIIB 

message: I have worked with rescue Schipperkes, and have one in my house who is not of easy temperament.  Most S's abandoned for problem behaviors due to intelligence, so have added that to the Appearance (and temperament) paragraph.  I am a veteran dog owner...have rescued ACD's (Australian Cattle Dogs) that were problems and due to be euthanized, and this little guy is the most difficult dog I've had.  But, still a wonderful companion and watchdog.  Oberonfitch (talk) 07:00, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding a rescued Schipperke 

message: The "History" section is confusing - what's the real story here?  At first it says:
The breed name of "Schipperke," officially taken in 1888, is traditionally thought to mean "little captain". Beginning in the 1920s, however, it became popular in Belgium to believe that the name was actually a corruption of the Flemish word "Shapocke" or "Scheperke", meaning "little shepherd". It has been suggested that the idea of "little captain" was an invention of the English, who mistook the Schipperke for a Dutch barge dog.
Then it says:
"Schipperke" is actually Flemish for "little captain". The English term Skipper for Captain is derived from this Flemish word.
Earlier versions of the page said "Schipperke" is a Dutch word.  I know Flemish is a Dutch dialect, so it's possible that it was indeed a Flemish colloquialism.  If it's true that "ke" or "je" added to the end of a word makes it diminutive I think that is a valuable piece of information.  Either way, it's confusing to say it is traditionally thought to mean something then say it definitely means that.  The OED says, "ad. MDu. or MLG. schipper (cf. Fris. and Da. skipper, Sw. skeppare, ON. skipari; also OF. eskipre, eschipre), f. schip SHIP n." So I suppose there's truth to the second sentence in my question. 
130.212.133.116 (talk) 00:15, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: DNA tests have put the Schipperke in the Spitz family, related to the Pomeranian dog and both it and the Schipperke with likely North Scandinavian roots. Both are downsized sub-Arctic dogs. The Schipperke very strongly resembles several Scandinavian breeds, most notably the Swedish Lapphund, but other dogs from the Lapp region as well. 
The Swedish Lapphund is both a herding dog and a Spitz type, the two are not mutually exclusive.
Pomerania, where the Schipperke was likely first downsized, along with one of the early breed lines that eventually went into the the Pomeranian dog, is right across the water from Scandinavia. And it's only a few hundred miles from Belgium. The dog is noted in Belgium in the 1600's, possibly earlier, but would not have had to travel very far to get there from Pomerania. 
173.66.30.104 (talk) 05:20, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: DNA Genealogy

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