Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Water supply and sanitation by country

message: I think this WikiProject could expand its scope to not only to countries but also to include country subdivisions.--Zer0~Gravity (Roger - Out) 00:48, 18 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added New York City water supply system, for starters, in that department. Daniel Case (talk) 14:45, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Scope

message: I don't normally add WikiProject templates when I'm not a member, but I was reviewing your articles for 1.0 and noticed that you didn't have tagged the two articles linked from your template (Water supply and Sanitation).  I've added a tag for each - these are the most important ones for us to include in any offline release! Maybe you could also consider broadening the scope to include things associated with water treatment, etc.?  Please revert my tagging if I misunderstood the project scope.  By the way, I'm really glad this topic is covered by a WikiProject -  often on WP we devote more effort to video games or TV shows than major topics like this one.  Keep up the good work! Walkerma (talk) 02:06, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for your suggestion. Actually it may make more sense to limit this project to sector profiles of water and sanitation in countries and sub-divisions of countries.--Mschiffler (talk) 15:18, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Tagging

message: Hi I'm a brand new wikiperson planning to do some Australian water research.  I'm starting an Australian Water Supply page in my sandbox. Melange42 (talk) 05:52, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Looking forward to seeing the draft Australia article in your sandbox. I'd be happy to help you while it evolves.--Mschiffler (talk) 15:27, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: In the meantime I have created Water supply and sanitation in Australia.--Mschiffler (talk) 15:20, 27 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australia 

message: I notice very little information about quality standards for drinking water or effluent discharges in most articles supported by this project. I have been developing Drinking water quality standards with the aim of eventually including a paragraph for each country or block of countries. I would welcome contributions, would encourage inclusion of quality informations in project articles and would especially welcome cross references between the drinking water quality article and article in this project. If editors  could also point me to information worth linking to or worth including, I would be grateful.  Velella  Velella Talk   16:08, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. There is little information on standards in the articles. Many developing countries base their drinking water quality standards on the WHO guidelines, so there is probably not much diversity to be found there. For wastewater treatment standards there seems to be more diversity between countries. Wastewater discharge standards in Latin America gives some examples.  Beyond standards, I would find it interesting to add more information about actual water quality to the existing water sector profiles, but unfortunately this information is rarely published in most developing countries where the issue is obviously more acute than in rich countries.--Mschiffler (talk) 19:51, 12 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Water quality

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message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Support. For me it is not important where the page is located, so I am neutral. If someone else feels it should be moved and no one objects, let us do it.--Mschiffler (talk) 15:28, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: has been nominated for deletion -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 05:33, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The discussion at WP:RFD has now also included  ,  ,  ; -- 65.92.180.137 (talk) 19:32, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
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thread_title:  WikiProject X is live! 

message: After a recent request, I added WikiProject Water supply and sanitation by country to the list of projects to compile monthly pageview stats for. The data is the same used by http://stats.grok.se/en/ but the program is different, and includes the aggregate views from all redirects to each page. The stats are at Wikipedia:WikiProject Water supply and sanitation by country/Popular pages.
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replies: text: Thanks a lot for this! Sorry for not replying earlier. It was me who made that request but only saw your note here now. Thanks again. EvM-Susana (talk) 09:40, 5 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pageview stats 

message: Re   (and many similar), is this a correct change? Has one project been subsumed by the other? Andy Dingley (talk) 16:23, 2 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your question. I was involved in these changes (although not at the start of the projects). If I understand right, it's like this: A WikiProject called "Water supply and sanitation" was started many years ago. However, it consisted mainly of two things only: Water on the one side; and articles on "water supply and sanitation by country" on the other side. A year ago we started a new Wikiproject called: Sanitation, see here: Wikipedia:WikiProject Sanitation. At that time it was decided to rename the old project from "water supply and sanitation" to simply "water" (User:Doc James helped with making that change). Then there is also the WikiProject on "water supplay and sanitation by country". This project was focussed on doing up a standardized description of the water supply and sanitation situation in each country (it was once funded by WSP from Worldbank but not anymore). When you look at the list of popular pages for this project (here), you see that there are projects on there which were tagged with the project but which don't actually deal with the topic. That's why myself and User:mll_mitch  have changed the tags. Does this clarify things? - However, I have to say that it is a bit confusing because there seems to be no template tag specifically for the project "water supply and sanitation by country" so we had to use "water supply and sanitation" tag which then redirects to there. EvMsmile (talk) 01:30, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: What an unnecessary muddle. Why start "WikiProject Sanitation" when this project, about water supply and sanitation already existed? The former project should be merged (or redirected) to this one, which should be moved back to "Wikipedia:WikiProject Water supply and sanitation". The claim that Wikiproject Water supply and sanitation "consisted mainly of two things only" is clearly bogus, as you've just removed its tag from a large number of other relevant articles. Since WikiProject Water claims it was "originally named WikiProject Water and sanitation", it too should be merged here. Andy Mabbett (Pigsonthewing); Talk to Andy; Andy's edits 11:00, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree it's a muddle, but I don't agree with your proposed way forward. In fact, I don't even understand what you're proposing exactly, can you spell it out clearly please? The project "water supply and sanitation" had basically no content on sanitation but only on water supply. Also water supply and sanitation are two different topics so there was no benefit at all in keeping them together in one. As you can see on both projects they are rather dormant (i.e. the WikiProject Water is dormant; the WikiProject "Water supply and sanitation by country" is a a bit more active). The only project that is really active right now is the WikiProject Sanitation. Also I think "merging" projects creates more problems than it solves. What is the main problem right now? You don't like that we removed some tags from some articles? It is not a huge number. If it really bothers you so much, then the tags could be put back in. But the articles that you were referring to were on water topics, not on sanitation topics and cleary not on "water supply and sanitation by country" topics, which is why we changed the tags accordingly. - I think more importantly it would be to get active in any of the three projects and to help them fulfill their goals. EvMsmile (talk) 12:03, 3 November 2015 (UTC)

text:  Also, I wasn't involved in the earlier work here, it was User:Mschiffler who was. See what he wrote here in 2007: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Water_supply_and_sanitation&action=history " (moved Wikipedia:WikiProject Water supply and sanitation to Wikipedia:WikiProject Water supply and sanitation by country: The new title better reflects the scope of the WikiProject, which is narrower than the original title suggested.)". Note there is also this page: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:WikiProject_Water_and_sanitation&redirect=no . See on history page of that page a comment from 2010: " (moved Wikipedia:WikiProject Water and sanitation to Wikipedia:WikiProject Water: It should be 'water', instead.) " So the bottom line is that many people over the years have tried to "sort this out". I think the current set up of having a dedicated project called "Sanitation" is just fine. - could you explain what your concern and interest is? Would you like to get involved content wise which would be great? Why does the issue about the tags worry you? EvMsmile (talk) 12:09, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Closure of project and re-tagging to [[Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Water|WikiProject Water]] ? 

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thread_title:  Popular pages report 

message: Hi. Please see this thread for discussions on a possible merger of the below three projects:
* Wikipedia:WikiProject Water (created on 14 June 2005)
* Wikipedia:WikiProject Water supply and sanitation by country (created on 24 November 2007)
* Wikipedia:WikiProject Sanitation (created on 3 December 2014)
Thanks, Rehman 12:51, 22 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  WikiProject merger 

message: Hi all. It seems like folks have reservations about merging the three projects under a single banner and the conversation kind of petered out. Taking a look through pages tagged for this project (of which there are 320) it seems to be about half articles and categories of the format "Water supply and sanitation in XXXXX", and half a random mix of sanitation and water articles. This project is clearly very quiescent. How would folks feel about retiring this project, marking its pages as historical, and transferring its talk page tags to either  and/or  (this would probably require human judgment. I'm happy to do this manually)? The proposed benefits are (1) if some editor is interested in the topic and follows the links from the talk page to the project, they're slightly more likely to hit a project page with active editors, and (2) if some editor has questions about a topic or needs a hand, they're more likely to actually find a human willing to help. Thoughts? Ajpolino (talk) 04:51, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I think we should follow the agreement we had reached here, rather than start a new discussion here now, unless something has changed? My understanding was that a concensus was reached but that nobody had the time or energy to implement the solution that we had agreed on (something I was concerned about all along because it's time consuming and may have less impact than adding one's time to actual editing of articles...). EMsmile (talk) 10:08, 21 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  After reading back through that discussion, I'm not sure what exactly there is consensus to do. Everyone seems to have a different idea of what the point of the merger is, and how it should be carried out. I thought this proposal to retire an inactive project might be a bit more straightforward, and get mostly the same benefit of the proposed merger without the hassle of changing the project pages or templates for Wikipedia:WikiProject Sanitation (which, in my estimation, is the only active project of the three). If folks (which here might just mean you and I...) feel differently I'm happy to be told to sit back down. Cheers Ajpolino (talk) 01:30, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think there is a fairly clear consensus that had emerged (namely to merge all 3 projects into one, and we had already agreed on the new name; there was perhaps still disagreement which project should be the "base" project - I was arguing for WikiProject Sanitation to be the base project). The problem was that nobody had the time to act on this.  - But if your proposed route is more straight forward and you have time/energy to do this, then for me it would be fine if you went ahead like you proposed. It would be like a two-step process: First merge this project into WikiProject Sanitation, later merge the WikiProject Water as well and give the new bigger project a new name. So please don't sit down but go ahead and be bold. ;-) EMsmile (talk) 09:50, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger take 2? Or retiring this project 

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