Talk:Glossary of sumo terms

message: Since I don't know Japanese, when I can only find information in Japanese or have to derive the kanji on my own where I only have romaji, I may well screw up someplace. So it would be good for someone who reads Japanese to check anything I add. (I rely heavily on  and , as well as the tables in hiragana.) TCC (talk) (contribs) 00:24, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll be sure to take a look.Malnova 01:40, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is actually turning into a great way to learn some kana. TCC (talk) (contribs) 01:06, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verify 

message: This is a very good glossary and is accurate and informative.  
General observation: Wikipedia needs to come off the pseudo-academic gate-keeper pose and focus on the storage and dissemination of useful information.  Now, of course, some gate-keeper will ask my what my credentials are.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kawika88 (talk • contribs) 19:29, 19 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: ===========

message: I'm a bit confused about the terms oyakata and toshiyori-- do they mean exactly the same thing or is there a subtle difference? I notice oyakata isn't in the glossary yet-- it would be handy if it was there as I think it's the more common of the two terms. Pawnkingthree 09:14, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In a sumo context they're synonymous, but not otherwise. Oyakata means "coach", "master", or "boss" -- I think the literal meaning is someone who stands in the place of your parents -- while toshiyori means "elder". You have to be an elder in the Nihon Sumo Kyokai to be a coach in a heya. But Malnova would know much better than me. I know how to look things up, but that doesn't mean I understand them. TCC (talk) (contribs) 05:02, 20 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Yeah, that's pretty much it. As far as I understand it - a toshiyori doesn't have to be an oyakata, but an oyakata is always a toshiyori. Malnova 05:10, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Oyakata, toshiyori

message: I was looking for more info on gunbai, and went to Japanese wikipedia and discovered that Japanese wikipedia itself does not have a "gunbai" article.  We even have one up on them!  Hee. Malnova 03:40, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's kind of weird if you think about it. It's like the English Wikipedia not having an article on signal flag or Bugle (instrument) or something similar. TCC (talk) (contribs) 04:23, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  gunbai 

message: Tachi-ai on this page is not written conistently with how it's written on the page that its definition is linked to. It's written as 立合い there and as 立ち合い here. I've seen it both ways, and as a non-expert I am hesitant to make any changes to sumo pages myself, so I thought I'd at least leave a note here. Absurdist1968 (talk) 10:14, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  A tiny nitpick 

message: What is power water?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.95.7.131 (talk) 17:59, 4 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Power water? 

message: # EntriesFor example, in Japanese it seems oicho-mage is more often referred to as oicho, whereas in English both seem well represented; Tenno-hai is Shihai or Tenno-shihai, but Emperor's Cup in English; Yokozuna Shingi Iinkai is often Yokoshin, whereas in English it's often Yokozuna Deliberation Council (YDC). Should Japanese usage or English usage be prioritized in entry naming? Should we use the most common form or the full, unabbreviated form?
# RomanizationIt's not clear if there is a standard for - (hyphen) usage and long vowels, for example hyoushi-gi, for which the corresponding wiki page has hyōshigi
# Japanese orthographyIt's not orthography per se but rather the use of kanji, and is related to the first point. For example kachiage would often be かち上げ instead of 搗ち上げ, wanpaku would be in full hiragana わんぱく.
# English glossThe gloss format isn't standardized throughout the page and the glosses aren't clear in whether they are a gloss for the entire term or if it is word-for-word.
--Xie1995 (talk) 17:44, 30 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Various page issues 

message: The article states "Prime Minister's Cup. Ceremonial cup presented by the sitting Prime Minister or an intermediary to the makuuchi champion at every tournament held in Ryōgoku." (emphasis mine); this implies the cup is only given out at basho taking place at the Kokugikan in Tokyo, but this is clearly not the case: at Kyushu Basho 2019 (the last basho to not take place in Tokyo, due to the coronavirus situation), Hakuho is clearly presented with the Prime Minister's Cup as seen here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2S-DinFToI
Unless someone can clarify what this sentence means, I'll edit it in a couple of days time to remove this wording which is at best ambiguous (though I can't figure out what else it could mean) and at worst incorrect. Thanks. Hidenotora (talk) 03:06, 29 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Since nobody has objected, I removed "at every tournament held in Ryōgoku." If someone can clarify the statement please post in here what is meant by it, thanks. There's more stuff to fix on this page which I'll get around to doing at some point. Hidenotora (talk) 01:25, 2 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prime minister's cup/sōridaijin-hai 

message: Could I ask that any editors adding, or modifying, entries on this glossary article make use of the  and  templates for Japanese terms? I'm trying to keep MOS:ACCESS but this article is insanely long and I can't do it alone if I'm the only one adding these templates in all the time. It would be a huge help. Thanks!—Ineffablebookkeeper (talk) ( me!) 17:32, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transliteration tags 

message: I added “dosukoi” to this article and it seems to have disappeared. Is it not considered sumo terminology? Ciro13 (talk) 13:44, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Dosukoi is indeed a term related to sumo, so it has its place in the glossary. When did you add the definition ? It is possible that the edition has been overwrited when another user edited the entire page. Feel free to add it again. Thanks for contributing ! - OtharLuin (talk) 07:20, 23 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't have any edits on this page: in fact, your post here asking the question is the only edit you've ever made to Wikipedia with this account. Are you sure you added it? Dosukoi is a sumo term, but there's very little to say about it: even the JP wiki just has a one-line entry on a disambiguation page saying "a sumo jinku shout of encouragement". If you can make an interesting entry for it though, go for it. Hidenotora (talk) 01:52, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dosukoi