Talk:Labrador Retriever/Archive 1

message: Out of curiosity, what's with the yellow colour? The lab on the two pictures seems white to me, not yellow. ^^ (Admittedly, I am somewhat colourblind, but not with regard to these colours, so...) -- Schnee 18:55, 21 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Both of the photos were a little washed out.  I adjusted the lighting on the full-body shot, so it doesn't look quite so white, but the original lighting & contrast is such that it's hard to tell that it's not all white. This looks slightly better. I know what to expect, so I look at it and see the yellow. :-)  This might be a lighter-colored coat, too; they do come in ranges.  It's more like a wheaten color than a true yellow. It's usually more like this dog or  this one; maybe we need a photo that better shows the coat color. :-)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Elf (talk • contribs) 00:49, October 22 2004 (UTC)
I changed the discussion of coat color genetics to discuss the B and E loci.  This replaces text suggesting that there are two genes, one for coat color and one for nose color--I don't believe this is correct.  The reference contains quite a good discussion of the matter.  This is one of my first edits so I apologize if everything is not quite done to the letter. hagemani 22:29, 12 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colour 

message: What can cause a very healthy labrador retreiver to have a sudden seizure?  she is young and well taken are of and has never had any health problems.  she is 5 years old.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.180.183.112 (talk • contribs) 01:36, July 19 2005 (UTC)
:This isn't  medical site and I'm no expert, but it could be a tumor, epilepsy, something she ate, too much heat, liver or kidney disease, blood sugar problems (e.g., diabetes), head injury, various infections, and so on and so on. According to the UC Davis School of Veterinary Medicine Book of Dogs (Medical Reference), some dogs have a seizure only once in their life & then never again; others have them repeatedly. It also says that some breeds are known to exhibit inherited seizures with no apparent cause--and the Labrador is one of those breeds listed. If you haven't already been to your vet, you might consider taking the dog in, and you & vet can decide whether additional tests are needed.  Elf | Talk 03:46, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  health? 

message: This article mentions the origin of the breed in Labrador, but I have heard (from several sources) that Labs were initially bred to retrieve fishermen's nets. Is there any way we can confirm this and add it to the article?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 205.219.50.14 (talk • contribs) 17:52, July 29 2005 (UTC)
:Confirmed in both The Encyclopedia of Dog Breeds (Cunliffe, 1999, Parragon press) and The New Encyclopedia of Dog Breeds (Fogle, c 2000, DK press). Will add. Elf | Talk 01:25, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Details of Labs' Origin 

message: I am somewhat perturbed by the fact that underneath 'famous labradors' a toilet tissue brand known as 'Cottonelle' is mentioned. If 'Cottonelle' is mentioned, then why is 'Andrex' not mentioned? That also has a labrador puppy as its mascot... Kyarorain 20:29, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't think that it was apropriate, so I removed the link.    Was the dog even in more than one commercial?    If the puppy was represented as an individual in the manner of Spuds MacKenzie, sure, but I don't think that this merits inclusion.   - Trysha (talk) 20:39, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed both of these once again, as the dogs themselves are just nameless individuals in the commercials.    - Trysha (talk) 18:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never heard of cottonelle.  I doubt many people in the UK have.  Meanwhile - the andrex puppy Hakluyt bean 22:13, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toilet paper brand? 

message: I'm using the Firefox browser.  The photos in this article do not show up (they do with (ugh!) Explorer.  What's with the coding problem?  I haven't run into any problems before with Firefox. Askolnick 00:38, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just tried it with Firefox on my Mac and it loaded fine. If you continue to have problems, you might try investigating at Help:Contents/Technical_information.  Elf | Talk 01:37, 3 March 2006 (UTC)

text: Im using it now and its fine.  --70.165.71.229 22:44, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  HTML Coding Doesn't Work in Firefox? 

message: I have posted a question at Talk:Dog_health#Alcohol_as_treatment_for_antifreeze as to whether the anon's posting has any truth. If it does, it belongs in dog health possibly, not in a breed article.  And I think it's a very bad idea anyway to post an idea of a dog appearing to drink alcohol recreationally.  Elf | Talk 23:21, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  Even if there is any validity to that claim, there is no reason that it should be on the Lab article.--Counsel 23:28, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

text: I also agree with that. You can treat poisoning with a poison. People use that stuff to kill dogs, alcohol does the same thing. If the dog has ingested antifreeze he's best taken to vet where he'll probably get something like charcoal to bind the toxin then something else given to make him vomit. Also a B12 injection to help the body deal with any that may have gotten into the blood stream. LdyDragonfly 23:24, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Alcohol use

message: I currently have a Labrador, and its behavior seems very unusual when compared to other Dogs of various mixed breeds I've had.  He seems to desire less attention, eventually tires of being petted, dislikes running long distances(10km+), enjoys being inside more than outside, does not make noise or posture to encourage me to do what he wants, immediately trusts anyone, and does not seem emotionally disturbed when neglected for a day.  I've been told these are typical Labrador behaviors, but they seem so unusual that it seems they should have more emphasis in this article especially if these specific behaviors have made it the most desired suburban house dog in the UK and America.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.137.43.7 (talk • contribs) 18:43, May 12 2006 (UTC)
:Hi there. You don't state the age of your dog or if it's mixed breed? A very young Lab or a senior dog shouldn't be run long distances everyday. It's hard on the joints both ways and depending on the ground that you are running them the paws can become sore, tender and cracked. I've been breeding and training Labs, and the like, all my life. Some Labs don't always want attention but would sooner just sit at your feet. If your dog, of any breed, starts to exhibit behaviours outside of what he normally does (even for that breed) you might want to take him to your vet for a consultation. He could be ill and that visual lessening of interest could be a warning sign. Remember dogs hide pain and illness so well that's it's not until it's a serious problem that we notic it. LdyDragonfly 23:21, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Behavior

message: I think the dog theft section should be reworded to avoid the word "theft". Dogs are not inanimate objects and I think a term such as abduction or kidnapping may be more appropriate. --Ted-m 23:52, 26 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  dog theft 

message: The table and much of the article discuss things such as colors that dogs' noses must be.  It should be made clear that these requirements are only for the show ring.--Counsel 00:35, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Appearance Requirements 

message: I just cleaned up the famous labs section pretty substantially, but wanted to note a few specific reasons for the edit.  First, the Zanjeer entry is still way too long; Zanjeer doesn't warrant three whole paragraphs in a list.  Second, I removed the following dogs:
* Maggie -- No supporting details
* Chloe, the yellow lab that is a great hunter and campanion -- Non-notable, probably dog vanity
* Napo, from the TV series Chore & Napo -- Only 3 results on Google for "Chore & Napo" and 0 for "Chore and Napo"; Unsupported claim
Finally, I wikified the list.  Just noticed that it could use some cleanup so I cleaned it up a bit. --MMX 23:05, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed the reference to Old Yeller; in the book, he was a dog of unknown (but likely mixed breed) origins while in the movie he was played by a Black-mouth Cur, not a Lab, according to the article on the book. --H-ko 04:06, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Famous Labs

message: It says that "they instinctively enjoy holding objects and even hands or arms in their mouths, which they can do with great aggressiveness."  Isn't that supposed to be gentleness?  I'd edit it, but I don't know enough to be sure.  Dcteas17 02:55, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fixed, and yes. Thanks :) FT2 (Talk | email) 03:18, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Temperamant

message: Can we get a section on the actual standard appearance of a Lab. Things such as the target weight, color of nose, height of the withers relative to the back, shape of the head and other anatomical features would be nice. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 129.252.228.213 (talk) 20:52, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Be aware that some stuff is worth pointing off-site, such as to breed standards (in the info box). So pick and choose what you'll include, especially to illustrate variation or common themes, rather than trying to "put it all in". FT2 (Talk | email) 03:16, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lab appearance 

message: The following edits have been made:
:* Removal of "Canis familiaris" in intro; relates to dogs generally, less so to labradors. Consider adding back somewhere more appropriate?
:* More neutral tone re water love. ("...fantastic companions..." etc edited)
:* Appearance material retrieved from history, placed alongside show standard crietria from present article, under the title "appearance". (Note that there are different show standards for labs in Europe and North America.)
:* Wording "to shore" instead of "in" -- more clarity.
:* Rvt obvious vandalism
:* "Mouthfeel" isnt a word.
:* Rmv what seems to be an excessive statement "Such dogs can become quite destructive if left too much on their own. " -- if this is notable in frequency or accurate specifically for labs, please source, cite and re-add.
:* Rmv duplicate reference to "rudder" tail
:* Rmv "Most Labs have a strong will to please." - seems to be adequately described already beforehand ("very trainable" etc).
:* Encyclopedify and cite the comment on "eat anything nailed down".
Work to do at a minimum:
:* The article's a bit of a mess in some ways - multiple lengthy "appearances", "color" and "variant" sections (at least one of which introduced by the above edits as a compact summary) - needs clearing up.
:* I haven't removed the skills section yet but this seems very specialized - for duck hunting or gun dogs generally, and for hunting dogs only, the commands they must be trained to understand. That should probably be moved to a suitable "dog training for hunting" type of article. 
:* Cites and further review needed.
FT2 (Talk | email) 02:53, 10 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Content review 

message: Substituted at 20:40, 3 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment