Talk:Whole Lotta Love

message: As loved as this song may be by Zeppelin notalgists, it was a ripoff, not a rewrite as the article suggests ('The song was a rewrite of the Willie Dixon song "You Need Love"'). This line should be changed, it's highly misinforming. It is even more so misleading since the article mentions that the band was succesfully sued by Willie Dixon for copyright infringement. The band was sued because they didn't give credit to Mr Dixon, not because they simply 'rewrote' it.
--Bentonia School 10:13, 12 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, that's true; and Marriott "borrowed" the selfsame Willie Dixon lyrics for "You Need Loving" - plus a few from Chris Kenner's "Land of 1000 Dances" to boot! Arguably, Dixon should more rightly have sued The Small Faces instead, but the resultant payoff based on record sales would've been infinitely more meagre. None of which is to claim that Dixon didn't have grounds to sue, but the stolen/"borrowed" bits are purely vocal/lyrical. Minus the vocal track, "Whole Lotta Love" would sound pretty original. (And I'm sorry, I know this isn't the proper forum for this discussion, but the door was opened...)Vonbontee (talk) 14:44, 1 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  A 'rewrite'? 

message: Should it be noted that the Pink Floyd song On The Run was sampled into the song (around the 3:16 mark)? Gcrossan(Talk) 21:13, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: reference?? 156.34.142.110 (talk) 21:34, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Then that would be a WP:ATT violation. No original research allowed. Wikipedia has too much already. 156.34.213.216 (talk) 03:22, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

text: It would be really weird if it was, seeing as On the Run was released nearly 4 years later.  Adrianrorheim (talk) 14:00, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: On The Run

message: The article states the following at the moment:
"Lyrics from "Mystery Train," written by Junior Parker and Sam Phillips (and recorded by Elvis Presley), also appear during the instrumental break."
Now, for the life of me I cant find any references to the lyrics of Mystery Train within Whole Lotta Love.  Can this either be referenced for removed?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.42.249.100 (talk) 15:25, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't hear it on the original album, but it's definitely there in the BBC Sessions version (the regular song, not the medley).  Starting around 2:15 or 2:20 there's a fairly clear "train I ride, sixteen coaches long," and he goes through the rest of that verse.  If it helps, I never noticed this myself until maybe a week ago, and I've listened to this CD countless times (though on the other hand I was never that familiar with Mystery Train until more recently). Psychojosh13 (talk) 15:12, 21 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Mystery Train

message: It currently says there is a "theremin solo" in the jazzy/psychedelic interlude... I always assumed it was just Jimmy playing around with his guitar? Adrianrorheim (talk) 14:24, 14 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Theremin Solo?

message: " It is also the last track the band ever played as whole" - this statement doesn't make much sense: does it mean that it was the last song the band ever performed, at their last ever gig? And if so, was that before they split up, or at their reunion gig? I'm afraid I'm not conversant enough with their set-lists to re-write the sentence  Dom Kaos (talk) 17:58, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "The last song..." 

message: In this concert, Page plays some riffs during the central jam. Does somebody know if this were recorded during Page's solo career or as Led Zeppelijn outtakes??  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.138.54.120 (talk) 05:51, 25 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Knebworth 1979 jam 

message: The interview with Jimmy Page in the Wall St Journal this week (http://online.wsj.com/articles/the-making-of-led-zeppelins-whole-lotta-love-1401390281?mod=trending_now_5&nan_pid=1804442923) suggests that the reverse echo production technique mentioned in this article was really the crosstalk from a previously recorded vocal take, which is actually mentioned earlier in this page. I suggest deleting that line about the reverse echo technique. Any objections? Andrew Hennigan (talk) 13:42, 4 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Presumably these refer to the same part of the song (as described in detail by Kramer)? If so, then yes, they seem to contradict each other. Can any other source be found for backwards echo here? If not, and it's certain that Dave Lewis is not referring to another part of the song (how can he be?), they I would agree with the deletion. I don't see any direct source at Reverse echo for its use in this song. I've always thought personally that it sounded like bleed through. Martinevans123 (talk) 22:27, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Backwards Echo 

message: Mlpearc, my edits provide useful information about the song's background.  It is well-documented that it is based on earlier songs.  Check out some song FAs or GAs – many include the artist's inspiration and influence in their songs.  You may not like some of the material, but to make a wholesale revert is overreaching. You've reverted reliably sourced material if favor of unreferenced OR ("Robert Plant, a huge fan of blues and soul singers, regularly quoted other artists' songs, especially live", "The Small Faces were never sued by Dixon, even though "You Need Loving" still only credits Ronnie Lane and Steve Marriott" – what bearing does this have?)  Also, the "Released" parameter should use Template:Start date, the use of " for inches is not a recommended abbreviation according to the MOS. There IS a track listing at the bottom, why have it again in the infobox? —Ojorojo (talk) 18:19, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Fine, but your addition Chess songwriter and arranger Willie Dixon, has nothing to do with Whole Lotta Love. If you want to post this information, put it in the Willie Dixon article where it belongs.  Mlpearc (open channel) 18:36, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The previous version had "written for him by peer Willie Dixon".  Is that at all useful?  Leave it out if you want, but it better describes their relationship. —Ojorojo (talk) 18:42, 10 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  You Need Love expansion 

message: The song was notoriously banned by the BCC because of Plant's moaning. Ironically an instrumental version was later used as the theme tune for Top of the Pops pop-pickers. Stub Mandrel (talk) 18:35, 1 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Top of the Pops

message: On Spotify in March 2022, the credit is given as "Arthur 'Big Boy' Crudup, Bernie Besman, Bukka White, Doc Pomus, Gene Pitney, James Oden, Jimmy Page, John Bonham, John Lee Hooker, John Paul Jones, Mort Shuman, Robert Plant, Willie Dixon." OK, Dixon sued before he died, but Crudup died in 1974 -- how did he & Pitney & the rest of them get there?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wombatjpw (talk • contribs) 15:17, 30 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I can verify that. Strange credit. Also on live versions. Saemikneu (talk) 22:59, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Current credit 

message: https://www.ajawamnet.com/ajawamnet/remixoflz.html
This is fairly enlightening.  Took me hours to do this.  I explain where the "pre-echo" really came from.  Also the Theremin parts sounds like it should.  Lot less nasty mix bus distortion too.  And there's the audio examples of John Bonham groaning on almost every roll down the toms 
96.255.70.154 (talk)  — Preceding undated comment added 15:52, 3 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  A lot of information - a remix with no fade at the end