Talk:Poverty in China

message: The first paragraph of the article includes repetitions and the description of very specific values and dates, which, in my opinion, is too detailed for the short summary that should introduce the article. Th1123 (talk) 13:49, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Improvement needed in first paragraph

message: "12 million people were considered as urban poor in 1993, i.e. 3.6 per cent of the total urban population, but by 2006 the figure had jumped to more than 22 million, i.e. 4.1 per cent of the total urban population"
The article that is cited for this claim was released in 2003. How is the figure from 2006 justified?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.185.233.170 (talk) 06:20, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Rural-Urban divide

message: I am going to adjust the definition of poverty given in the lede sentence, as most of the article's content regarding the nature and impacts of poverty have no connection with the precise number of $1.25/day, but rather to a general state of material deprivation, which may be measured in either absolute or relative terms.Homunculus (duihua) 14:28, 8 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The definition of poverty in this article is murky. The measure of what constitutes poverty in China appears to be largely subjective. Certainly the government has lifted many people out of extreme poverty, but to say they have virtually eliminated poverty altogether is dangerous unless we have ample sources that prove it. —General534 (talk) 22:35, 17 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of poverty 

message: "According to the World Bank, more than 850 million people have lifted themselves out of extreme poverty as China's poverty rate fell from 88 percent in 1981 to 0.7 percent in 2015, as measured by the percentage of people living on the equivalent of US$1.90 or less per day in 2011 purchasing price parity terms."
Many sources say that"only" 700 million people were lifted out of poverty. And the World Bank figure with the poverty rate of 0.7 percent is not supported even by Chinese sources. 175.176.83.217 (talk) 02:46, 29 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poverty figures 

message: The last paragraph in this section is pretty sketchy, and I believe it should be removed from the article:
::There have been reports of cases where peasants complain and demonstrate because the conversions have not been done in a transparent way, and there have been accusations of corruption of local officials. [citation needed] The government has published statistics on violent protests involving more than 100 people, and that number grew steadily up to 84,000 in 2005, before dropping a reported 20% in 2006. Up until 2006, the way in which agricultural land was being converted to urban land probably contributed unnecessarily to increasing inequality. It has been noted that compared to other developing countries, virtually all peasants in China have land. If that asset could be used either as collateral for borrowing, or could be sold to provide some capital before migrants moved to the city, then it would have been helping those who were in the poorer part of the income distribution. The administrative, rather than market-based, conversion of land essentially reduced the value of the main asset held by the poor. [citation needed]
There are no citations in this paragraph, and several Citation Needed tags that are 10 years old. It seems to break Wikipedia's No Original Research rule multiple times in its elaboration on hypothetical scenarios. I also think it breaks the Neutral Point of View rule - it does not seem to represent "fairly, proportionately, and, as far as possible, without editorial bias, all the significant views that have been published by reliable sources on a topic," but instead represents a singular particularly negative point of view that has not been directly linked to a published reliable source. Unless there are any objections, I propose we remove the paragraph from this section.
Combefere (talk) 06:19, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Land Use and Corruption in China Section