Talk:Vitruvius

message: Do you really need to mention the The New Zealand Herald? "An article in The New Zealand Herald called him "the world's first known engineer".[3]" This is not an authority of great importance and can be left in the references. 
An Anonymous Newbie  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 202.40.218.20 (talk) 01:22, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This statement seems dubious. Imhotep one might discount as mythical, but Amenhotep, son of Hapu pre-dates Vitruvius by over a thousand years. HLHJ (talk) 03:08, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: The New Zealand Herald

message: The item I removed was misbilled, i.e., it is not what it claims to be (influence on garden design); and (b) partial: it's merely a partial translation of the de Architectura. There are dozens of those; and this one looks like one of those junk sites, to boot. If someone feels up to it, a valid link would be to the complete translation by Morgan. Bill 20:20, 8 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Link removed

message: "Whether these writings were actually written by one author or whether they were compiled by later librarians and copyists, remains an open question." this should be removed from the page. If all ten books are read then it is apparent all were written by one person. He lists why he used ten books, lists all his references and describes in advance and references back to various portions of the ten book set. In addition the voice in all writtings are consistant.Granite07 01:38, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion for removal 

message: A See Also section, as here, is a sign of an ill-written article; I got rid of as many as could be legitimately removed. Julius Caesar is already linked in the article; there is no indication, either in this article or in the article Mamurra, why they might be related; and the Antikythera mechanism is but one example among many, of a type of ancient machinery. Vitruvius never mentions anything like it, nor is the Antikythera device known to have anything to do with Vitruvius.
Mr. Campbell, on the other hand, is marginally tolerable; he is, mind you, but one of a long list of Vitruvius editors and commentators, and "Vitruvius" is not infrequently part of their pen names or the titles of their works. It would be more useful — if someone is casting about for a project — to add an annotated bibliography on these Renaissance and classical Vitruvists. Bill (talk) 17:48, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: *See User talk:Bill Thayer#Vitruvius  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Granite07 (talk • contribs) 20:56, 22 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: "See also's" removed

message: Vitruvius discusses acoustics and the use of what seem to be Helmholtz resonators in theater design (Book 5, "Sounding vessels in the theater"). Does anyone have any sources on this, or on the acoustics of Helmholtz resonators in contemporary acoustic design? It's mentioned as a way to reduce undesirable resonances under Helmholtz resonance#Applications, but that's all. HLHJ (talk) 03:36, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Helmholtz resonators

message: Is it possible Vitruvius was executed after the death of Mark Antony in 30BC? Sometime after 23BC he seems to have disappeared and presumably died of old age on some unknown date.  The presumed date of death gives an age of about 50.
128.12.169.7 (talk) 19:30, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: found this reference for education http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/vitruv.htm "From De architectura we can conclude that he was had a Hellenistic education - words like graece and Graecia appear more often in his text than romanus and Roma." Granite07 (talk) 18:32, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: found this reference for another campaign http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/vitruv.htm "He served under Julius Caesar in the African War (46 B.C.)" In De Architectura there is a description  of North Africa., to note, commentary at http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/vitruv.htm is junk and misguided, whoever wrote it did not read the book thoroughly, "He complained that the workmen are in a hurry, "the uneducated rather than the educated are in higher favor",", this is completely misconstrued and taken out of context. Granite07 (talk) 19:08, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened to Vitruvius 

message: this section is a summary of http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/vitruv.htm 
*"However, Alberti, a master of Latin prose, noted that Vitruvius' "very text is evidence that he wrote neither Latin or Greek, so that as far as we are concerned, he might just as well not have written at all, rather than write something that we cannot understand."", I think the article needs a section on the historical and current contribution and misunderstanding of Vitruvius, and abuse of a dead author.
*Petrarch showed understanding to Vitruvius' prose. 
*Francesco di Giorgio (1439-1501/2) partly based "Trattato di architettura civile e militare" on De Architectura
*Alberti argued that the work of art is so constituted that it is impossible to take anything away from it or add anything to it and partly based "On Painting" (1436) on De Architectura
*Leon Battista Alberti, based "De re aedificatoria" (1452), Ten Books on Architecture) on De Architectura
*Leonardo wrote in his notebook: "Vitruvius says that small models are of no avail for ascertaining the effects of large ones; and I here propose to prove that this conclusion is a false one."
*Bramante (1444-1514) and Andrea Palladio (1508-80) are students of Vitrivius.
further reading: Vitruvius on Architecture by Thomas Gordon Smith (2003); Vitruvius: Writing the Body of Architecture by Indra Kagis McEwen (2002); A History of Architectural Theory: From Vitruvius to the Present by Hanno-Walter Kruft (1994); The Lost Meaning of Classical Architecture: Speculations on Ornament from Vitruvius to Venturi by George Hersey (1988); Vitruvs Architekturtheorie by Heiner Knell (1985); Homage to Vitruvius by John K. Ryan (1981); 'Vitruvius', in Greek and Latin Authors 800 B.C.-A.D.1000 by Michael Grant (1980); Translation of Vitruvius and Copies of Late Antique Drawings in Buonaccorso Ghiberti's Zibaldone by Gustina Scaglia (1979); Vitruvius and Later Roman Building Manuals by H. Plommer (1973); Index Virtruvianus by Hermann Nohl (1965); 'The History of the Theory of Human Proportions as a Reflection of the History of Styles', in Meaning in the Visual Arts by Erwin Panofsky (1955); Vom Nachleben Vitruvs by H. Koch (1951); Vitruvio by F. Pellati (1938); Vitruv und die Poliorketiker by W. Sackur (1925); Des Marcus Vitruvius Pollio Basilika zu Fanum Fortunae by Jakob Prestel. (1901); The Elements of Civil Architecture by Henry Aldrich (1824) 
Editions: 
M. Vitrvvivs per Iocvndvm solito castigatior factvs cvm figvris et tabvla vt iam legi et intelligi possit, 1511 (by Ioannis de Tridino alias Tacuino) 
De architectvra libri decem ... omnibus omnium editionibus longè emendatiores, collatis veteribus exemplis, 1552 (by Gulielmi Philandri) 
I dieci libri dell'architettvra, 1556 (tr. et commentati da monsignor Barbaro) 
Della architettvra, 1590 (by di Gio. Antonio Rvsconi) 
M. Vitrvvii Pollionis De architectvra libri decem, 1649 (by Gvilielmi Philandri, Danielis Barbari, & Clavdii Salmasii) 
Les dix livres d'architecture de Vitruve, 1673 (Paris; J. B. Coignard) 
Les dix livres d'architecture de Vitruve, 1684 (by M. Perrault, 2nd. rev. ed.) 
An Abridgment of the Architecture of Vitruvius: containing a system of the whole works of that author illustrated with divers copper plates, curiously engraved, with a table of explanation, 1692 (London: Printed for Abel Swall and T. Child) 
The Theory and Practice of Architecture, or, Vitruvius and Vignola, 1703 (abridg'd, printed for R. Wellington) 
The civil architecture of Vitruvius, 1812 (London; Longman, Hurst, Rees, Orme, and Brown) 
The Architecture of Marcus Vitrivius Pollio, 1826 (London; Priestley and Weale) 
The Architecture of Marcus Vitruvius Pollio in Ten Books, 1860 (trans. by Joseph Gwilt) 
The Ten Books on Architecture, 1914 (trans. by Morris Hicky Morgan) 
Vitruvius On Architecture, 1931-1934 (trans. by Frank Granger; ed. from the Harleian manuscript 2767) 
De architectura, 1968 (trans. into Italian by Bono Mauro da Bergamo & Benedetto Jovio da Comasco; commentary by Cesare Cesariano) 
Ten Books on Architecture, 1999 (trans. by Ingrid D. Rowland; commentary and illustrations by Thomas Noble Howe) 
Vitruve78 (talk) 20:14, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further text 

message: This website has the "Basilica di Fano" built in 19 BC, the date of death given in the article should be changed to reflect this. Additionally the date of publication for De Architectura should be changed to a later date.Granite07 (talk) 05:51, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of death 

message: should this article be added to the series on: Military of ancient Rome (portal)? Granite07 (talk) 19:07, 25 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add to Military of ancient Rome series 

message: >>> "alongside Marcus Antonius, Publius Minidius, and Gnaeus Cornelius"
Mark Antony? Who says that Crassusis Minidius and Volusenus Cornelius? He may have been contemporary with some of these but "alongside" makes it sounds as though he was in the same legion. Please be more careful about either who links to whom and/or distinguishing what we actually know from what would be cool if it were actually true... 
*The quote from Vitruvis "And so with Marcus Aurelius, Publius Minidius, and Gnaeus Cornelius, I was ready to supply and repair
ballistae, scorpiones, and other artillery, and I have received rewards for good service with them." Book one, preface, section 2 http://www.gutenberg.org/files/20239/20239-8.txt Granite07 (talk) 18:24, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: turns out, [Pliny] does [cite Vitruvius], in the "TOC" : Pliny, NH 1.53, 118, 121  —Preceding unsigned comment added by BL Gildersleeve (talk • contribs) 18:48, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed Speculative Stuff 

message: I added a 1684 engraving of Vitruvius by Sebastian Le Clerc to the lead as I thought it would be important to have a depection of the man in his own biography.  I slid Vitruvian man down to the biography as there was not enough space for it up there.  If anyone wants to change my positioning of these images that is fine by me.  Cheers - Dumelow (talk) 23:33, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  1684 depiction 

message: "He was besides well intrenched with a high rampart and deep ditch, the approaches to which were rendered so difficult by the sharp spikes which he had disposed in a very skillful manner, that they were even sufficient of themselves to keep off the enemy. He had also a large supply of cross-bows, engines, and all sorts of weapons necessary for a vigorous defense, which he had prepared on account of the fewness of his troops, and the inexperience of his new levies. It was not owing to being influenced by the fear of the enemy or their numerical strength, that he allowed himself to appear daunted in their estimation." http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/The_African_War
2601:9:4980:ABD:2919:E233:CB60:2A24 (talk) 17:19, 2 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vitruvius in Caesar's Africa Campaign 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on Vitruvius. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20110609161903/http://medieval.ucdavis.edu/GRAND.TOUR/Lecture02.html to http://medieval.ucdavis.edu/GRAND.TOUR/Lecture02.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 15:32, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified  on Vitruvius. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120324053652/http://hos.ou.edu/galleries//01Ancient/HeroOfAlexandria/1575/ to http://hos.ou.edu/galleries/
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at ).
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 16:49, 16 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on Vitruvius. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150113223633/http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/vitruv.htm to http://www.kirjasto.sci.fi/vitruv.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120517124924/http://www.commission5.isprs.org/wg4/workshop_ancona/proceedings/26.pdf to http://www.commission5.isprs.org/wg4/workshop_ancona/proceedings/26.pdf
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140207081452/http://www.klaus-schroeer.com/web2/html/arthistory2.html to http://www.klaus-schroeer.com/web2/html/arthistory2.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120121172933/http://en.history-of-physics.com/antike/griechenland_hodometer.htm to http://en.history-of-physics.com/antike/griechenland_hodometer.htm
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 20:35, 26 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I removed the alternative names "Vitruvi or Vitruvio". These are not Latin, nor English, so they aren't relevant in the English Wikipedia. ("Vitruvio" is Italian or Spanish, "Vitruvi" is perhaps Catalan.) Andrew Dalby 18:38, 23 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on Vitruvius. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://archive.is/20120708095736/http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=CaeComm.sgm&images=images/modeng&data=/texts/english/modeng/parsed&tag=public&part=7&division=div2 to http://etext.virginia.edu/etcbin/toccer-new2?id=CaeComm.sgm&images=images%2Fmodeng&data=%2Ftexts%2Fenglish%2Fmodeng%2Fparsed&tag=public&part=7&division=div2
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 16:32, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: These are the genitive cases of V.'s original Latin terms "firmitas, venustas, utilitas" - and, especially since the English word "of" is already there, there is no good reason to put these words in the genitive case (otherwise you get "of of stability...").  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.243.236.9 (talk) 16:07, 13 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Firmitatis, venustatis, utilitatis"