Talk:List of Cowboy Bebop characters

message: Just noting that there are significant characterization differences between the Anime and the Netflix versions. Though probably most of the addendum are being done over at the Wikia/Fandom site, as opposed to here.
Not going to contribute towards this though, personally; not at this time... (for various reasons...) (the least of which I just don't have the spare energy right now...) ✌
--Ferdi Zebua (username: Lemi4) (talk) 10:33, 21 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Differences between the Anime (1998) and the 'live action'/Netflix series (2021)

message: There is some controversy over Ed's full name.  It's been written two ways, Edward Wang Hwe Pepel Cybulski 4th and Edward Wong Hau Pepulu Tivruskii 4th.  There is a screen shot of one of the slides from the series that uses the first spelling (Cybulski), and one of the official books for the series spells it that way too.  The anime guides, the subtitles and everything else uses the second spelling (Tivruskii).  
I watch the series in the original Japanese with subtitles.  The subtitles and the actress speaking the part both say Tivruskii.  That is the most common spelling (and pronounciation) of the name.
I'm thinking of modifying the entry to include both - Tivruskii with Cybulski as an alternate spelling, since both have been used.  I'm wondering if it wasn't originally Cybulski but was later changed before filming of Jammin' With Edward.  Any objections? --MrsSpooky 14:54, 10 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Character Name

message: I added some information about him, mostly based on the guidebok 'The After' (ISBN4-04-853103-4). --Mufurc 13:12, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this line in the article on Vicious could be rewritten:  "Vicious was Spike's partner in the Red Dragon crime syndicate until they fell into conflict over Julia (and possibly over Spike's decision to abandon the Syndicate, though the two may be related)."  Isn't it clear from the episodes' content that the two actions are related?  Spike fell in love with Julia, and planned to leave the syndicate with her.  That's how I have always understood the story.  Or am I making a false assumption?  Best regardsTheBaron0530 (talk) 20:40, 18 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vicious 

message: I could have sworn Faye Valentine carried a GLOCK 26, not a GLOCK 30? Orca1 9904 15:01, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Faye's gun 

message: The article presumptuously states that in Episode 23-Brain Scratch the corpse of one of The Three Old Men (presumably Jobin) can be spotted. This is pretty objectionable, as the only frames we see of the corpse are shaded and there is hardly enough evidence (facial features? type and color of clothing?) to justifiably indicat it is one of the old men.
There are several sources which hint at the same but to say it is the gospel is a bit far. I mean the bloody shirt looks more white to me (whereas Jobin's is yellow) and I can't see any distinguishable facial marks. This statement should be at least changed to show there is no certainty.--70.65.187.113 22:33, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Three Old Men 

message: I rewatched the Real Folk Blues episodes(and the whole series over the week) and I realised that Spike did NOT leave the ship to seek Julia when he upset Faye -who fired 5 shots into the ceiling- he had already found Julia and she was already dead. He left the ship in order to fight Vicous only! That's what upset Faye as she knew the possiblities of him not coming back. And yes she did know Julia was dead anyway because she heard everything Spike had said from round the corner. Therefore I took out the part about him seeking Julia as it was not correct, he only went to seek Vicous.
However that now means the sentence: "Though he comes to see her as a companion, Spike does not seem to have romantic feelings for Faye, as could be evidenced by his decision to seek and face Vicious in The Real Folk Blues, a decision which upsets Faye to the point where she fires her pistol into the ceiling five times as Spike leaves." doesn't realy make sense any more as it is no longer realy evidence if he only went to seek Vicous. So it needs rephrasing.
Blindfold 09:04, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Faye's article 

message: I've been meaning to ask this for a long time... Why does everyone seem to believe that Vicious uses Red Eye? I mean, apart from the fact that he's a bad guy thus he's the first suspect by default. But other than that, we never see him having anything to do with Red Eye, except for smuggling it, during the time the story takes place, and there's no hint whatsoever that he was the one who used the vial on the table. 
I can't check RFB at the moment, but in the flashback in episode 5 first we see Spike fighting with syndicate guys, firing first from a bouquet of roses; then a rose falling; the Red Eye on a table with roses; then in the next shot Spike is mowing people down. I know that the scenes are not necessarily in chronological order, but still, there's no Vicious in sight during the church fight, in fact, it seems to me that he wasn't even present (which is very possible if he's half as clever as we're expected to believe). While Spike draws the grenade out from his pocket we hear and see people firing at him, so he's definitely not in a duel with Vicious. I see no reason for Vicious to use Red Eye if he wasn't going to fight Spike one-on-one, which he apparently didn't do. (And let's not forget the roses: there are red roses beside the vial of Red Eye on the table. But why would've Vicious had roses? It was Spike who had a bouquet of roses, and I'm pretty sure he hadn't stopped by to give a few of them to Vicious.)
As for his appearance, it doesn't scream "Red Eye addict" to me... it screams "insomniac" and "psycho", neither of which have necessarily anything to do with Red Eye. Besides, apparently he's always had white hair and bags under his eyes, they just got worse after the incident with Spike and Julia. (Btw, according to my personal theory his appearance is more symbolic than anything, but that's a different matter.) And the "affinity towards Red Eye deals"... eh? IIRC he does it only once in the show, and that's because Gren requested to deal with him.
Anyway, I'd be glad if someone clarified this for me because the article heavily suggests that Vicious used Red Eye, but I see no proof of that anywhere. --Mufurc 14:35, 8 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For all we know, that red eye could have belonged to Julia.  We know absolutely nothing about her, so she could have used.  Maybe Spike used, but no mention or evidence of that at all. Anywhere.  Any comments on it at this point would be pure speculation.  --MrsSpooky 22:08, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Eye 

message: Spike needs an image. -Yancyfry
Heck, pretty much everyone needs an image. -Yancyfry 02:24, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image needed 

message: This page is not well written, at all. I've started fixing the Gren and Spike sections, but I'll probably be back to fix the rest of it after I finish watching the series. The grammar is not good, there are lots of mistakes, and there are lots of POV and non-encyclopedic statements (like saying Spike is attractive(I editted that out)). So, someone really needs to go through and fix it. It'll probably end up being me. Dan Guan 00:12, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  not good... 

message: This article (plus the description of Waltz for Venus) states that Spike's fighting style is Jeet Kune Do. Are we sure about that? The lesson he gives to Roco sounds more like Aikido than anything else to me. Is there a link where the creators of the show talk about Spike's martial art style as being within a specific tradition? --Hermitage 06:54, 13 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Watanabe talks about how Spike's moves are inspired by Bruce Lee. Bruce Lee used Jeet Kune Do. The point of Jeet Kune Do is that it's mixed and not to be an "official" school of martial arts. That's why it seems mixed with aikido. ForestAngel (talk) 19:31, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jeet Kune Do? 

message: Why is there a section on Red Eye in the Cowboy Bebop characters article? I personally think that if the information is to be included at all, it should be in a different article than this, though I don't think that it warrants its own article. Any thoughts?  Apollo Gilgamesh (talk) 00:18, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Eye section 

message: What happened to the pictures? Can someone get some more of them or something? Like screenshots or whatever? ForestAngel (talk) 03:41, 25 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Individual images for each character in a list article violate WP:NONFREE, which is probably why they were all removed.  Someone needs to find 1-3 group images to use. At the current size of the list, really probably just one. AnmaFinotera (talk) 19:46, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

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BetacommandBot (talk) 23:22, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Gren session12.JPG

message: "The three old men are actually bounty hunters themselves, as revealed in the Cowboy Bebop Silver Anniversary disc."
What is this silver anniversary disc?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Justinbobbybescia (talk • contribs) 00:07, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: The three old men

message: How come nobody added V.T. from "Episode: Heavy Metal Queen???" Well, I decided to do so, for she is just as notable as all the other secondary characters. (LonerXL (talk) 03:43, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: VT

message: Please use Tokyopop's Cowboy Bebop anime guide to source these entries. WhisperToMe (talk) 00:10, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Sourcing

message: Paragraph 4, "In a later episode, another Vicious/Spike parallel is set up..." is problematical, or is lacking detail.
In "Black Dog Serenade", before Fad goes to kill Udai, he is clearly shown to load a single round in his empty revolver.  He shoots Udai, then points the gun at Jet, who grabs a nearby gun and instead shoots Fad - Fad committed suicide by ex partner.
In "Real Folk Blues part 2", during their final clash, Spike tells Vicious that Julia is dead.  They have one final clash, and instead of slashing at Spike with his katana, he slashes the floor (clearly visible on the DVD), allowing Spike to shoot him.   
DEFINITE parallels between Spike and Jet, both killing their ex partners who for reasons unclear did not kill them.
Do we want to expand on that paragraph?  Or would that be too much detail? Or should it just be deleted?  I think if we were going to point out parallels between Jet and Spike, this should be mentioned.
--MrsSpooky (talk) 15:01, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Jet

message: Can someone help?  I added a statement from Watanabe-san from a transcript of a panel discussion he was in in Detroit.  The link to the transcript is here: 
http://protaku.com/post/index/41/An-Evening-with-Shinichiro-Watanabe/
I'm afraid I don't know how to add references to the pages. If someone can help me with that, I'd really appreciate it.
--MrsSpooky 23:58, 30 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I added it.  I think I did it correctly (would LIKE to have it show up in the references section).  If my clumsy first attempt at adding a reference can be improved, please feel free.
--MrsSpooky 00:55, 1 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Spike

message: why is mad pierrot tongpu not on the list of characters?! 69.233.245.177 (talk) 22:43, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question.  If VT is in there, why not Tongpu?  He was certainly memorable as a one off guest as VT, and I believe Andy is in there too.  Maybe I'll write something up for him... --MrsSpooky 00:39, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: tongpu

message: Suggest we fix it to "Main Characters" "Supporting Characters" and "Reoccuring Characters". Main holds the main characters such as the Bebop Crew and "Supporting Characters" would be Julia and Vicious but also Grencia, Shin and Lin. Recurring characters would be only those who appear more than one episode but also V.T. considering she appeared in the side story "Cowboy Bebop: U.T." so technically recurring.Lucia Black (talk) 05:18, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Fixing this list

message: Is it worth mentioning under Radical Edward's section how Lynch is emulating her by dying her hair orange and wearing goggles? Ranze (talk) 02:19, 21 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Becky Lynch]]

message: Subject says it all. Jyg (talk) 05:03, 25 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maria Murdock?