Talk:Fritz Lang

message: What was the 1956 remake of M (1931 film)? Can't find it on the IMDB. Was is in a different language or something? Ellsworth 23:00, 18 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remakes of ''M'' 

message: I've changed a number of English titles on the filmography because these are, at least in some cases, the American adaptations of Lang's movies, rather than actual faithful renditions.  For instance, "The Crimes of Dr. Mabuse" moves the time of the movie forward from 1933 (when Germany was under the Weimar Republic) to 1938.
If someone can find an appropriate way to indicate "this is the real, actual Fritz Lang movie, from which the Americans made this version in 1935 and this one in 1956", that'd be appreciated.  In the meantime, I'm changing the titles of the English adaptations to the actual English meanings of the real movie titles.
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As far as I'm aware, there was no 1956 remake of M, so I've removed that reference in addition to generally rejigging and augmenting a lot of the article. Much of it still isn't particularly well-structured, but I think it's a little better. --Chips Critic 21:49, 11 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  American versions 

message: There are conflicting accounts of whether Lang was part Jewish. Here are the versions I've read:
#Lang's mother was Jewish but converted to Catholicism when Lang was a child
#Lang's mother's parents were Jewish but she was raised Catholic
#Neither Lang's mother nor her parents were Jewish, but Lang told Goebbels that they were so as to avoid being co-opted by the Nazi propaganda ministry. 
Need to find which one is correct and put that in the article.
Nothings been proven, if he was infact any part Jewish it was something miniscule 1/8th or 1/16th.
:I think we need to add another in light of Lang's habit of telling biographical untruths:
#Lang had no Jewish ancestry but once in Hollywood, claimed he did as part of a larger untruth about fleeing Germany as an impoverished refugee.
– Antaeus Feldspar 11:36, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: That's simply incorrect. That Lang's mother was born Jewish is common knowledge. The first version you mention is correct: Lang's mother was Jewish, but converted to Catholicism, as was the norm for upwardly mobile middle-class Jews in Austria in the late 1800s. What source are you getting the other accounts from? And more to the point, why would you think Lang's Jewish heritage was "miniscule"? If his mother was Jewish (and she was) then whether she was raised as a Catholic or not is irrelevant: Jewishness is a matter of ethnicity, not religion. --Chips Critic 22:21, 10 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I feel I need to clarify that my response above ("I think we need to add another") was  offering that as one possibility of what the truth of Lang's ancestry could be.  Lang was known to fictionalize his past for the sake of drama and had already fictionalized the circumstances under which he "fled" Germany; what is implausible about his upping the stakes by adding to the scenario hidden Jewish ancestry?  And if he had done so, there's little doubt that it would have become "common knowledge" – just as the myth of him being offered the position of the head of German film is common knowledge and accepted uncritically even by some of Lang's biographers. – Antaeus Feldspar 18:05, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  There is a difference between these two instances of possible fictionalisation: we have reason to believe, based upon the evidence of Goebbels' diary and the timeline of Lang's departure from Germany, that the meeting with Goebbels probably never took place. We have no reason to believe that Lang's mother was not Jewish. "It's the kind of thing I think he would have done" isn't a good enough reason. Wikipedia is not a forum for original research, so unless you can cite a source for this speculation (ideally one which brings some actual evidence to the table) it will have to be removed from the article. --Chips Critic 01:00, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lang's Jewish Ancestry 

message: I updated this section. I intend to run throught the others later on to fill in some of the gaps left in his German filmography. --Qwayfe 23:59, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Latter career 

message: I think that the article would benefit greatly from at least one image of the man himself. TheMadBaron 04:30, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture, please 

message: I've heard that Lang was Hitler's favorite director, and was deeply ashamed for many years that the Führer enjoyed his movies so much. I think that's worth mentioning, if a source can be obtained. --MosheA 01:22, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hitler was an admirer of Metropolis and tried to get Lang to join his propaganda wing but Lang was so disturbed by this proposition he abruptly left Germany.Havis, Allan (2008), Cult Films: Taboo and Transgression, Univeristy Press of America, Inc., page 10-Schnurrbart (talk) 21:21, 14 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hitler 

message: This article references Lang's brother, but it does not state a name.  I know schools in which teachers send their students to this site to learn about such basic information, this might be a good addition.  Does anybody know his name?69.230.102.114 (talk) 03:10, 14 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Adolf Lang (1844-1961) --Popmuseum (talk) 07:42, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family 

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thread_title:  External links modified (January 2018) 

message: — Assignment last updated by Hanover Archivist (talk) 17:41, 17 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: GER 222 German Cinema and GER 322 German Film Studies

message: I tried adding a list of Notable work in the Infobox, listing Metropolis, M, Scarlet Street and The Big Heat. This was removed. It seems the point of a "Notable work" field is to include Notable work, no? Kevin Charles Schoonover (talk) 03:04, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable works