Talk:Saito (disambiguation)

message: Why are there two separate to the Japanese language page? Someone who can read Japanese should resolve this.
The links are to the two most common ways of writing the name.  While in English we usually make a single page for, say, Hannah and Hanna, on Japanese Wikipedia it seems to be common to have seperate pages for each of the frequently used writings of a name, since they're not considered the "same" name to the degree that different spellings are in English.  (Or to compare it in a different way, John and the male use of Jean are distinct names despite being connected.)  
I don't see a disambiguation page for all the ways of writing Saitou on Japanese Wikipedia, so I think the way things stand is probably for the best.  Normad Zeta 00:00, 11 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments

message: This page begins with Saitō (usually 斉藤 or 斎藤, but other forms are common) is the seventeenth most common Japanese surname[...] and then goes on to list Saitō, Saito, and even Saitou. The only Japanese name here is Saitō. Saito is not a Japanese name, although it may (or may not) be etymologically related. Saitou is nothing more than a non-standard romanization. The claim regarding the Japanese name needs to be restated or removed. Or maybe even better all of the Saitōs could be moved to Saitō. Bendono 06:36, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese surname 

message: Contributors are encouraged to go to Wiktionary.org to provide further detail on Japanese names that are romanized as Saito,  Saitō. --Bxj (talk) 15:03, 17 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Providing dictionary entries 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
*Oppose - yet another foolish piece of time wasting. JoshuSasori (talk) 04:17, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Please stop making ad hominem attacks. You expressed a neutral opinion on a very similar proposal a few days ago, so why has your opinion changed? elvenscout742 (talk) 04:22, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you link me to the policy that says that? You said the same thing at Talk:Rashōmon, but no only one other editor agreed. The root word is Japanese and is pronounced Saitō. Either way we spell it, it's not going to match some of the articles listed, but none of them are "English" as you say, and if we can't match all of them we need to pick one which accurately fits as many as possible. 96% of the items in the list could be spelled with a macron. elvenscout742 (talk) 05:48, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It's in the disambiguation page naming guideline. -- 76.65.128.43 (talk) 11:25, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: Does anyone actually look up "Saito" when they are looking for the article on Musashibō Benkei? The fact that the relevant article writes the hiragana　の in between "Saitō" and "Musashibō", and the kanji for Saitō （西塔), and this, imply that it is not actually a part of his name. Japanese Wiki doesn't mention 西塔 once. I'm really dubious as to whether it should be included on Wikipedia without clarification that it is an appellation applied to him in works of fiction. elvenscout742 (talk) 02:10, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The only mentions of 西塔 I can find in articles are :ja:西塔佳郎, :ja:西塔教会, and :ja:西塔 (瀋陽市). There are scattered mentions of other uses throughout jawp. None about Benkei ···日本穣? · 投稿 · Talk to Nihonjoe · Join WP Japan! 07:49, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This 西塔 is the 西塔 at Enryaku-ji. The origin of the name, Saitō no Musashibō Benkei,  seems to be Funa benkei. The name can be found in a line in the play. "かやうに候者ハ。西塔乃傍に住居する武蔵坊辨慶にて候" or "是は西塔の武蔵坊弁慶にて候". See ,  and . Oda Mari (talk) 09:03, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, both of you! So, should we change the opening line of Benkei, then, if the appellation originate in a modern Noh play? elvenscout742 (talk) 09:58, 19 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It might be a modern play in Kabuki, but I think it's a classic as Noh play as the playwright died in 1450. Oda Mari (talk) 09:25, 20 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, sorry, I misread the Wikipedia article on Funa Benkei. I saw the name of an author, assumed it was the original, clicked the link and found out he wrote in the Meiji period. elvenscout742 (talk) 04:43, 21 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Benkei|"Saitō Musashibō Benkei"]]??