Talk:Appropriate technology/Archive 1

message: The only Centre for Appropriate Technology I can find is one in Australia, one in the UK, and one in San Salvador. I can find nothing at all at The University of Waterloo.  Spalding 14:14, Dec 12, 2004 (UTC)
:Likewise - I searched the site (incl advanced google search) and found nothing. I was following a lead from Wikinfo but it was wrong or out of date. --Singkong2005 13:07, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nothing at The University of Waterloo

message: Is there a stove suitable for burning dung cleanly indoors (to avoid the health problems)? The Pellet stove looks like a promising idea and has been listed on the Appropriate technology page but it appears to be a device suitable for developed societies. Any comments, please make them on: User talk:Singkong2005/Appropriate technology for developing countries. --Singkong2005 13:00, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, cost is far more important in this context. Appearance far less important. See the heading Characteristics of these technologies in this article. --Singkong2005 20:04, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stove? 

message: Please have a look at User:Singkong2005/Appropriate technology for developing countries and sign at the bottom if you want to be involved. 
The idea is to create a comprehensive resource on this topic, on Wikipedia. 
If lots of people get involved we can make it a WikiProject. But for now, if you have suggestions, questions etc relating to this topic but not about this particular page, then discuss it on the talk page of the page I mentioned: User talk:Singkong2005/Appropriate technology for developing countries.
--Singkong2005 12:58, 30 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  If you're interested in this area... 

message: Previous discussions on this topic are found at /Split, merge. Please don't add to the archived page - any further comments should be added on this page. 
In brief, I split the page due to concerns that about the definition of "appropriate technology", and made a separate page, Appropriate technology for developing countries. In the end I decided that was a bad decision. Discussion followed, there was no objection, and the material was merged, with the addition of an explanation that this article uses the common definition of "appropriate technology" as technology appropriate to developing countries, or developing or isolated areas of developed countries. --Singkong2005 01:02, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Split/merge discussions

message: I have made a template:  for appropriate technology stubs. Articles flagged with this can be found at :Category:Appropriate technology stubs - I discovered that stub templates have to be approved first, so this was replaced by the International development stub template... 
I have made a template:  which can be used for stubs about appropriate technology. Articles flagged with this stub template can be found at :Category:International development stubs
Feel free to edit the template if you want - improve the code, or add a gif, color etc. Cheers, Singkong2005 04:46, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template for international development stubs 

message: This comment moved from the main page:
: Luddite? I don't think so. Apptech people are not going out to stop change, or the use of technology. They are trying to show you don't have to add technology that sucks...
: According to many historians so were the Luddites. They just get a bad pressA Geek Tragedy 17:04, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Luddite?

message: I came across this reference: "The “Smart Village” (Rural Information Technology Center) concept being tried in Malaysia to make access to the relevant information and education based on cost efficient high-tech in rural areas... " - [http://tojde.anadolu.edu.tr/tojde18/notes_for_editor/note2.htm
Information and Communication Technology for Poverty Reduction]. (It's a pretty general article, not much that's concrete).
I can't find any other reference to this Malaysian program (apart from quotes/mirrors of this original article. It could be something to look out for. --Singkong2005 05:03, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  “Smart Village” (Rural Information Technology Center) in Malaysia 

message: Support. Intermediate technology in practice is a synonym for appropriate technology, and not used very often. It was originally used with a particular explanation by EF Schumacher (if I've got my facts right) but this can be deal with in a paragraph or two here. This article is getting long, but a better way to deal with that might be to make a new page for the section Some appropriate technologies. --Singkong2005 03:27, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge from Intermediate technology 

message: I removed this: See also : LMDS, satellite internet and broadband internet for rural areas.
There is some relevance to rural settings, especially in Broadband Internet access#Technology; however, it doesn't seem like appropriate technology (for developing countries/regions), to me. --Singkong2005 talk 12:18, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information and communication technology - removed sentence 

message: I've removed the link to the Village Earth's Appropriate Technology Wiki Project. I went there, and looked through each of the 28 categories. There was a total of four articles, one of which was basically "about us". I really don't want to be unkind, but "smaller and less active" is one thing, and "practically empty" is another entirely. To be fair, the categories themselves had a bit of background text, which could arguably count as small articles, but still... I think it'd make a good addition here if it ever takes off, but it clearly hasn't come close to doing so yet. Waitak 11:45, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good call. I didn't want to do it as I am very involved with Appropedia, so it could be seen as my bias. But now the VE Wiki has merged with Appropedia, so it's all good. --Chriswaterguy talk 07:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Village Earth link 

message: I would like to document and incorporate by reference several apparent appropriate technologies.  (See the following link:  http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2007/08/28/3455/ )
This link discusses several appropriate technologies in posts that i authored including:  "battery banks"; "'mirrored' solar panel design"; and "neighborhood waste water treatment plants".  
i would love to see more individuals submitting their own ideas on appropriate technologies.  Some of these ideas will "take-off" for sure.  Don't you think?
Peace, Ken Hausle - Charlotte, NC August 29, 2007 11:41 am.
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.181.40.79 (talk) 15:42, August 29, 2007 (UTC) 
:Not suitable for Wikipedia - see WP:NOT. I would propose an Appropriate technology wiki. Disclaimer: I'm involved in that wiki. This is consistent with Wikipedia policy though - no original research here, but it may be welcomed on another wiki. --Chriswaterguy talk 20:47, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Individual Submittal on Appropriate Technology Ideas....(includes Reference) 

message: Should we transwiki the non-encyclopedic content? Well, obviously we should, but the question is, which of it is non-encyclopedic? My suggestion is, anything that has been tagged as unreferenced for a significant length of time, and I think at the moment that this is most of the article. So I'm proposing reducing this article to a basic description, with additional content on a different wiki.
I added a lot of content to this article, long ago (esp late 2005 early 2006 I think). But in hindsight, there's a lot of judgment in it, as to what constitutes an "appropriate" technology. So I'm inclined to remove large portions of this article, where it is unreferenced, and place it on Appropedia. (I'll probably use Special:Export so it preserves the page history.) 
It goes without saying that anyone may use the content elsewhere as well, but the important thing is to make use of this (IMO) valuable content on a suitable sustainability and development oriented wiki. --Chriswaterguy talk 20:43, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transwiki the non-encyclopedic content? 

message: Should the shadoof, sakieh and the bucketpump (see this website) be included in "water supply"? I'm not sure whether they provide better efficiency and/or low cost to produce over treadle pumps. Please look into it and add if they still have some advantages over treadle pumps, if not never mind, as things would become unnecessary complicated.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.246.181.231 (talk) 10:11, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inclusion of other pumps 

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::CSMonitor article
:: Journal-Abstract
::World-Bank Review
::  PDF:  PDF-Journal-Article
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:      Popular Mechanics Aug 2008 article on MITs D-Lab (Developing World -Lab) and Amy Smith's efforts:  ( Note: this is the print link, so press cancel if you'd rather not print it )
:::          MIT's Guru of Low-Tech Engineering Fixes the World on $2 a Day (Amy Smith wins Popular Mechanics Leadership Award Aug 2008) 
:::           (3 Small, Low-Tech Inventions for Big, World-Changing Problems)  (AMY SMITH: My 7 Rules for Tech Design in Developing Nations)  
Orchus2 (talk) 13:15, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some successes in appropriate technology