Talk:David E. Kendall

message: "When he first arrived in Washington to practice law, the senior partner advised him that in Washington they burn a witch every three months and it is best not to be the witch."
:Cite, please. Who related this anecdote? The subject of the article? The senior partner? Who heard it, and how did it get here? -- Anon.
::Kendall reported it in a 2001 interview for the Wabash College magazine. He was talking about his work defending the President Clinton during the impeachment trial. Here is the quote as he reported it:
::"Edward Bennett Williams used to say, “Washington burns a witch every three months. It’s important not to be that witch.” And there’s a lot of wisdom in that." -- Robin22 00:57, 25 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: IMHO, the best way to get rid of the  tag is to mention his work with Clinton  during the impeachment trial.  That is quite significant.  PPI isn't as well known.  I've Googled his name on the Internet before (well, technically I was Googling my own name, I happen to have the same first and last name as Kendall) and his work with Clinton, especially during the impeachment trial, comes up again and again (and ranks much higher than instances of "David Kendall" that refer to me!  ;) )  The quote above too would be great for the Kendall article.  If someone who has an interest in doing more research on him than I would like to do this, I think it will improve the article a lot and be a good reason to get rid of the tag.  (And if someone could find a fair-use picture to put on the page, it'd be great!  I've always wondered what he looks like, since I share a name and all ... ) --Canuckguy 02:55, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Witch-burning quotation

message: The PPI links seem to confirm that this is a different person than the one most readers will probably be familiar with. 
The David Kendall who served as an attorney for the Clintons was (is?) a Washington attorney, and a Wabash College graduate. The PPI link at the bottom of this entry describes someone who works at a thinktank, and graduated from U. of Chicago. I have no idea how/why the latter is important; however, the Clinton attorney certainly did gain name recognition during Clinton's presidency. 
Another entry ("Wabash College") mentions David Kendall as an alumnus; that entry should link to a bio of the Clinton attorney.
There is a link to a Wabash College magazine interview of Kendall in one of the comments about this one-- so even the earlier comments about this entry are apparently referring to a different David Kendall. Markinia 06:09, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well then, as I mentioned above, maybe we should make another article about the Clintons' lawyer (there's lots of stuff on him on the 'net), perhaps have that be the main page for David Kendall, and relegate this one to another page (perhaps David Kendall (PPI)?) since he is (sadly) the most famous David Kendall it would seem and deserving of the primary page due to his significance.  (I hope one day to unseat his position as the most famous David Kendall, though!  ;) ) --Canuckguy 03:40, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This article was IMO vandalized to refer to the PPI Kendall instead of the impeachment Kendall. This resulted (several months later) in an AFD. I reversed the edit so that this article's editing history regarding the attorney would be preserved, and moved it to David E. Kendall. Then I fixed David Kendall to be a human-name disambiguation page. Hopefully this clarifies the article history. --Dhartung | Talk 20:05, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for this clarification. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 19:47, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  PPI references? 

message: Kind of a high profile client in addition to the Clintons. [See ] "Petraeus’ attorney, David Kendall told ABC News he had “no comment” on the guilty plea" Popish Plot (talk) 13:42, 12 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a good fact to add, either in a new subsection under Career, or perhaps at least  in the section on his defense of Secretary Clinton (in the context of which others are discussing the earlier successful Petraeus defense). See also Further reading. Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 19:46, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:   Subsection and stub added, using two better Wash Post reports, see article as of this date. Le Prof  Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:54, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  David Kendall also David Petraeus lawyer 

message: I came on for a quick primer on this notable individual, and stayed through my coffee break to complete and reformat the sources. After finishing, I went to one source, and noticed much of the material attributed to it was not in the source. (The source inline citation appeared at end of paragraph.)
This led to two excercises. One was reading the two most cited sources, and comparing it to the content of the paragraphs to which they were attached. This has resulted in paragraphs with too many inline citations, a temporary matter, that I ask to be left as is for the present, a situation that exists for the following reason. In doing this analysis of text and purported sources, it became clear that much of the material was not in the source indicated. Some of this could be rectified, as what was not in source [1] actually came from source [2] (and vice versa), so that what was required was simply the addition of further inline citations, to the source that wasn't acknowledged. 
However, on many points, such as:
# his full Date of Birth, 
# his term and title at the NAACP Legal Defense Fund, 
# his affiliation with the Council of Federated Organizations,
# his relationship to the murdered civil rights worker Andrew Goodman, 
# his reported affiliation with Worcester College at Oxford
# the report that it was at Oxford that he and former President Bill Clinton first met,
# his reported work for the  William J. Clinton Presidential Center and Clinton Foundation,
# his stated appearances before the Supreme Court on pro bono assignments,
# his work on the  MGM et al. v. Grokster case,
# his work on the Tasini et al v. AOL case,
# etc.
neither of the principle sources appearing supported the material stated in the text. That is, either WP:OR is in play, or we are violating WP:VERIFY in this article, by adding material without sources.
Moreover, a further deeper issue emerged once the source of all factual statements in the Sections Early life and education and Career were assigned. As a result of the analysis, 34 factual statements were assigned to just two sources, and these two sources were both essentially self-published; this accounts for 85% of the inline citations as of this date. The personal biography at his place of work, his law office, is pure self-published material (citation [2]). The information taken from the Wabash College announcement of his honorary doctorate, while a step removed, is nevertheless, also self-published information (citation [1]): in the consideration of candidates and preparation of such announcements, it is standard practice to solicit from the individual their CV or other biographical statement. The vetting by a college offering an honor degree is not that of a news organization; the Wabash announcement is, for all that, nothing more than a further biography based on self-published material.
Hence, after completing and standardizing all sources appearing, including those in further reading, and adding further possible useful sources, I conclude that the the article is largely based on the title subject, David J. Kendall's view of himself, and on his self-reporting, directly and indirectly.
It was for these reasons, that the article and section tags were placed, and the inline tags of "third-party" and "self-published" were placed (the latter to make clear the shear density of self-generated material that currently appears). Where superscripts [1] and [2] appear, for the Wabash announcement and the law firm bio, and where they are without inline tag, they nevertheless are problematic, as sole sources, because they are simply WP re-presenting Mr Kendall's self-generated resume.
Finally, the calls for expert and cleanup are aimed at having new eyes on the problem, which appears to have gone on for a long time, without any change. Overdue for departure, cheers, Le Prof Leprof 7272 (talk) 20:06, 3 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I alleviated the overuse of self-authored sources a bit, but there is still more work to be done. I'm moving on to other articles, but below is some raw cut-and-paste that might be useful to whomever follows.--Rajulbat (talk) 03:52, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
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