Talk:Lists of flags

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The field labeled "Flag:" below the images of the flag and coat of arms is rather unclear. After further inspection of Netherlands and France it appears to be the name of the person who drew the particular image used (rather than my first two assumptions, the original designer of the flag or some bizarre nickname for the flag itself) and a reference to the web site from which it was taken. --Brion VIBBER
:Flags from FOTW can be used freely as long as there is a reference to the site. What Wikipedia really needs is its own flags of course, homemade and under the proper license. Anybody wanna start the discussion on what sizes they should be? Oops, I think I just did...;) -Scipius
:: We can't be certain we'll have cited them properly, as anyone could come in and remove it.
:: Are the ones at e.g. The CIA site in good enough condition to use?  (They're in the public domain.)  --KQ 14:40 Aug 7, 2002 (PDT)
:::They appear to look fine (ratios and all). This could save us the trouble of making them ourselves, if they are indeed in the PD like the rest of the Factbook. The smaller size is smaller than our "small" size at the moment though, but that could of course also help in reducing table width. I've put up links to the Factbook flags (small and large) on the Netherlands page as a temporary example before we start adding them. Any comments? -Scipius
::::Hm, but now that you mention it, I think the text below that is what's determining the table width.  Maybe one 50 pixels or so wider?  I'm looking for public domain flag images.
::::Speaking of which, check this out: http://memory.loc.gov/frd/cs/cshome.html  (Another gov't site about countries, in the public domain--and more extensive than the CIA bits).
::::Whoops, someone found that one already.  Let me show you this round thing I invented; you can do something with it I like to call "rolling".
::::I'm not having any luck finding larger images of country flags which are certainly in the public domain.  --KQ
:::::It is indeed the main table text that decides the width at the moment, but there's no immediate need for finding a certain size that would fit more properly. We can probably simply take the large size flags from the Factbook now and then resize those when we decide on a good smaller size (we could even have three sizes: large, small, mini?). At least we would have a good base flag for all countries. Agreed?  -Scipius
::::::I don't have any objections.  --KQ
:::::::Very well, now all that remains is the issue of format. Shall we convert the original .jpg to .png? I realise this is a no-no according to image policy, but since these are flags rather than detailed photos, could it perhaps be possible? Also, some of the flags could have their colours a little brightened, so some minor work needs to be done on them. -Scipius
::::::::Ask LDC about it; he co-created the .PNG format.  
:::Generally, one sould never convert JPEG to PNG.  Once an image has been saved as a JPEG, the information has been lost; converting won't bring it back, and will usually just make it worse.  Both the maps and the flags at the CIA site are incorrectly encoded as JPEG.  The only way to get good quality PNGs would be to rescan them from paper, otherwise we might as well just use the poor-quality JPEGs as they are.  A few of the maps there (called "reference maps") are available as PDFs--those can be made into high-quality PNGs by rendering the PDF at high resolution and producing a scaled down PNG from that. --LDC
First thing to consider is that each flag has its own proper ratio so you can nto just randomly do the flag it has to be in ratio. fir example the ratio for the union flag (union jack) is 1:2. - fonzy
: Well, we could move the source of the flag image to another location. Creating your own flags is fine for simple flags like the Dutch one, but more complicated ones take more time, and we might as well use other sources as well. Jeronimo 14:37 Aug 7, 2002 (PDT)
I have created and uploaded the flag of Mauritius. <image has now been deleted>
:Let's wait before you create any more, Fonzy. We could be adding flags for all countries very soon and the basic "small" size for use in the table still has to be decided. -Scipius
::ok but as i ahve mention just abit before that diffrent flags have diffrent ratios teh ratio for that flag is 2:3 alot of flags are like that some liek th uk's flag is 1:2 others include 3:4 6:7, 3:5, 13:15 and more. So you cant state one default size for all flags. nto quite shore how to do it. - fonzy
I have tested it on the Spanish flag and I can't see any loss of quality from the conversion, so it would not be problem to use .png as the format. Shall we then use it or just stick to .jpg for convenience? Also, since I'll possibly be converting them all anyway, shall we agree on a good medium sized flag for the tables? Since we're aiming for tables of around 300px, I propose a flag of 135px in width, but any suggestions are more than welcome. Shall we perhaps have a few test examples? Another element would be the possible mini flag, but I'm not sure there's a need for them at this point, so they (and the debate on what size exactly) could wait.
Also, would it perhaps be a good idea to put the large image of the flag on a page of its own (Flag of <country>), detailing the name, history, etc. of the flag? I'd like to hear from you all. -Scipius
With the newer table layout we should probably aim for tables in the 250 to 300 pixle wide range - anything more than about 310 is way too wide for low res screens. I would therefore propose that flags and seals/coat of arms be no more than say 120 pixels wide. --mav
:I'm not certain we'll even achieve the <300px mark for all tables, but we'll see. Besides, I don't want to leave to much empty space in the larger tables. Shall we make it 125px? -Scipius
or just dont have the flag on the table but have alink on it to a seprate page with it on. - fonzy
:Well, we do need a flag in the table, that's kind of the idea for the medium sized flags. But we could have a link to the page containing the big flag below the medium flag, as suggested above. I'll wait for 24h before starting, and at least until Jeronimo chimes in. -Scipius
::The flag is obviously a keeper, but do we really need the coat of arms / crest / seal? --Brion VIBBER
:::I was in doubt as well when editing France, but that country appears to be the exception in having no national coat of arms. It is a nice bit of information that seems ideal for the table. I vote for leaving them in, though the ones present need to be resized to 125px like the flags. -Scipius
:::I agree with Scipius about keep the coat/seal - most countries have this or something equivalent (maybe even France if we look hard enough). Also 125 px wide for both is fine. --mav
About the flags, I agree with fonzy that we should try to keep the right aspect ratio of the flags; that shouldn't prevent us from using a fixed width, but some flags (the exceptional cases of Switzerland and Nepal) will be a little big in height. Individual flag pages would be great as well for most of the flags, so we could have a big picture there.
As for the coats of arms, I like them to stay, even though not every country has one (France really doesn't have one), but some other countries may not have a capital (or three), no official language, etc. The table shouldn't be fixed for every appearance, but it should contain about the same info. Jeronimo
It is agreed then to have .png images of 452px (or whatever the Factbook has) and 125px in width and a page describing the flag in some detail? I'll start working on them tomorrow at the earliest (it's nearing bed-time ;)), so I can now propose a final element: the name. I suggest simply <country>_flag_large and <country>_flag_medium (all without caps), leaving <country>_flag_small for the possible future mini flags. This is in part to have a flag naming convention, in case anyone else decides I shouldn't have all the fun ;) Yes/No/Silent Approval? -Scipius
do you want me to give you the ratios of the flags you plan to do? only prob is my flag book is quite out of date (well the one with the ratios in) but alot of flags are still the same. - fonzy
:Most of the Factbook flags already have different ratios, so it's very well possible that they're already in the correct proportions. I'll be checking with the FOTW site for the right colours anyway (as well as "official" pages), so I can check for ratios there as well. However, should there still be doubt I'll ask you, and you can certainly check them yourself once they're uploaded. Thanks!  -Scipius
: Re: Scipius - also consider the name of the flag articles. For most "(National?) Flag of X" will do fine, but some flags are more commonly known by their (nick)names: Union Jack, Star-spangled banner.
: Re: Fonzy - check out http://www.fotw.ca/ - you should be able to find all current ratios of national flags there. Jeronimo 
::UNION FLAG!!!! altough yes it is more commonly known asd the union jack but its consider pedantic to call it the union flag anyway union jack is fine .  fonzy.
::As the response by Fonzy shows, that could be a bone of contention as well. I would suggest to simply stick to the Flag of <country> format and explain the whole history of the flag and other names for it on that page, with the other names being redirections to it. We can probably get quite a meaty article out of some of them. Agreed? -Scipius
: Yeah, Flag of x would be fine, with redirects for the flag name(s). You're right fonzy, it's really Union Flag, but that's almost never used, not even by most British themselves. Jeronimo
True most peole in the uk dotn even know that. i can do the artciles on the flags. i do have the books on it. Try and get the original Union Flag too as you woul need that to explain the history of it. - fonzy
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i thought though we were going to make our own flags? 
:I've started adding them now. You can now edit to your heart's content on the Flag of the United Kingdom... ;) -Scipius
Status of flag porting:
I've finished doing the letter A and several major countries, which had a template table in them. Afghanistan has not been added since the Factbook flag is apparently out-of-date with the Taleban overthrow. Other flags have had their colours adjusted (whatever detergent the CIA uses to wash their flags, it is murder on the blues ;))  -Scipius 12-08-2002
B, C and D are done. The flag for the Comoros has not been added, the Factbook one is now out of date. -Scipius 13-08-2002
E, F, G, H, I, J, K and L have been completed. The flag for Guadeloupe has not been added since this is merely the flag of the local independence party according to FOTW. The Vatican flag is only 100px wide, it would otherwise be much higher than other flags. -Scipius 14-08-2002
M, N, O, Q and R are added. Martinique not (yet) added since it is only the unofficial flag. Rwanda was not converted, since this country has changed the design of its flag in 2001. The flag for Nepal is only 80px wide due to its unique shape. -Scipius 15-08-2002
After having been disconnected from the Net for a week, I have now completed the flag porting with the addition of P, S, T, U, V, (W), Y and Z. The flags for Saint Pierre and Miquelon and Wallis and Futuna were not included on account of them being only local flags, with the latter also having an incorrect design. Somalia was not added because of the uncertain situation in that "country". The flag for Switzerland is again 100px wide, since it's a rectangular flag. -Scipius 24-08-2002
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=== The list ===
I have now started assembling a list with links to all the flag images, as well as explaining how to use them in articles, intended to make a repository for all flags. Only the letter A (including adding an extended description in the Image: page itself) has been done for now, awaiting any comments others may have. -Scipius 25-08-2002
put a mini-flag next to the name of the country. btw (the former republic of macadonia), Macedonia is only known as that in the UN its proper official name is Republic of Macedonia or maybe just dont have a link to the small size just put the small size next to the name. - fonzy
:Yes, the "small" name has been reserved for just that kind of mini-flag, but I think we can wait on creating those until after we have sorted out the rest of the flag situation on Wikipedia. E.g., we would need to determine just what size they should be. -Scipius
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Is there any place on this page for political flags, e.g. :image:blkred_flag.png DanKeshet
:Sure, but let's first wait until I've finished linking all the national flags. There are quite a few other flags around that will also need to be added, but I'm not yet sure in what form exactly (i.e. should there be some resizing and such?) Anyone have any ideas? -Scipius
The flags of US states, Canadian provinces and territories, and assorted others like the rainbow flag and the Esperanto flag are also available. P.S.: do we mean to include names of flags (like Old Glory, Union Jack, Maple Leaf Flag, Fleurdelisé, Dannebrog)? - user:Montrealais
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Now, I'm ready to start replacing existing national flags (that come in all different sorts of sizes, colours and locations with the ones that have now been added. I'm assuming I can be bold in this, since they aren't necessary any longer (the country articles will be replaced by the template at some point anyway and the standard flag is the only one fit for it). However, this will also leave a lot of orphaned images, which mostly can now be safely deleted. Is anyone willing to help out there and assist me in doing this or, alternatively, could I be granted the ability to do this myself? Either option is fine by me. Thanks for any pointers anyone can give. -Scipius
I just made you a sysop so you'll be able to delete images if needed--just don't get too delete-happy.  If you have any doubt, just add a note to the
image that you think it's deletable, and if the other sysops agree, it will
get deleted--or else they won't agree, and say why.  I'm also planning an
upgrade to the delete functions soon--there are some odd bugs with images
sometimes.  --LDC
:Thanks very much, LDC. I'll only be deleting flag images anyway for the moment, I'll leave the other sysop options for when I know a bit more about them (is there any procedure I should follow now?). I'll get to the task over the weekend, but could you say what I can expect in terms of bugs or are they too random to pinpoint? -Scipius
All the medium sized flags have now found a page to call their home. The large ones will find a place once the template will be put in place. I have deleted various flag images that were uploaded locally, including a number of orphaned ones. There are however also a large number of links removed to images that are located on the Meta-server. I have no idea what should happen to those and whether or not they are in use elsewhere, so I'll leave it at that. -Scipius
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I am not not really happy with some of the flags with detail some don't look right. (ok roughly right) but i would if i could draw (in any sence) make them look better. - fonzy
:Well, could you be specific? Naturally, these flags aren't perfect, but it was exactly the detail of the artwork contained in some that would have been the hard part, should we have decided to make our own. Some of the CIA's work could use improvement, but it certainly is sufficient. -Scipius
well i see Wikipedia as something that should have v.acurate(ok not to begin with but gradually improving) information so just ok is not enough. It should be as acurate as possible. So keep the present flags for the moment but anyone who is good at art and vexiology can work togetehr and improve on the dteail - fonzy
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=== Other flags ===
I've added most of the other flags I could find in the image list, but I'm not sure what we should do with them. Should we agree to a common size for them, adapt them to the medium size of the other flags or leave them be alltogether? Also, should we give links to images on the Meta-server or (as I would say) wait until they are uploaded locally? -Scipius
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From User talk:isis: I wish I caught Scipius before he uploaded all the large images. Those images really are huge --mav
Actually, I too feel the large flags are probably somewhat too big. The reason they are that size is not some preference on my part, but because that's how large the original large flag .jpgs from the Factbook are. Given that we hadn't discussed it, I figured to just go ahead and add the large flags at their full Factbook size, also considering that it's easier to scale-down images than scale-up, should that be necessary.
Most flags are 450 px in width and some 300 in height, several are wider than that, but rarely higher. In the case of simple tricolours and such a reduction would be most welcome, but we risk to lose the finer details found in flags with coats of arms or intricate designs. Rather than basing all large flags on a fixed width (which is required for the medium flags that must fit in the table), perhaps we could downsize all "simple" flags to, say, a height not exceeding 200 px (since width does not matter here), and leave the "detailed" ones at their present size of 300 px in height? Shall I make a few examples of a detailed flag at various sizes so we can compare?
In other news, the Factbook has been updated for 2002 (for the flags, see here), which also means we now have the missing flags of Afghanistan, the Comoros and Rwanda. The Factbook now posts their flags as .gifs, but they don't seem to have improved their designs at all, so I don't think a complete re-upload will be necessary at this point. Scipius 15:27 Oct 26, 2002 (UTC)
:I think width and not height is the most important thing here. I resized :Image:Us flag large.png from nearly 600 px wide to 400 which is the max width suggested by Wikipedia:Image use policy. Even on the flag pages we could still have media links to the huge images via  centered and under the flag. Mock-ups would be most welcome. --mav
::Well, if 400 px is the maximum width by policy, then I don't think we need mock-ups. 400 px max width it is then. I'll get to it over time, but others are welcome to help ;) Scipius 20:04 Nov 3, 2002 (UTC)
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There are now many articles listed as Flag of XXXX, which are only linked from the relevent country. This page seems the appropriate place to put such a list but it does overlap somewhat with National Flags, so do you think they should go here?
:That thought had occured to me. I would suggest that it would perhaps be best to have the list of <Flag of x> articles at National flag, since those articles are really only about national flags. The tables here are wide enough (not to mention a whole mess of characters internally) as it is, so a simple list elsewhere would be clearer and easier. We can then prominently link to the National flag article from this article and limit this list to just flag images. -Scipius 20:55 Dec 11, 2002 (UTC)
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:I'd like to add some historical flags for countries or regions which no longer exist as separate entities - Prussia, East Prussia, Orkney, and so on.  Should those go into "historical flags", I assume?  Also, how are state flags going to be organized; in alphabetical order after the country they're in, I assume?  Is there any reason I shouldn't put some state flags in where they logically would go?  I don't want to stomp on anyone's notions of how the page should be organized, I just want to get a few dozen flags out there for specific pages I'm writing. -- WikiDave
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Can someone add the U.N. flag? Kingturtle 12:20 Apr 18, 2003 (UTC)
The UN flag, the EU flag, the NATO flag etc; none are present. This is a whole category missing. — Sverdrup 11:24, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm, those two seem to have been removed from the list all together. Why? Wondering simply, -- Infrogmation 18:37, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag porting 

message: I've added most of the other flags I could find in the image list, but I'm not sure what we should do with them. Should we agree to a common size for them, adapt them to the medium size of the other flags or leave them be alltogether? Also, should we give links to images on the Meta-server or (as I would say) wait until they are uploaded locally? -Scipius
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From User talk:isis: I wish I caught Scipius before he uploaded all the large images. Those images really are huge --mav
Actually, I too feel the large flags are probably somewhat too big. The reason they are that size is not some preference on my part, but because that's how large the original large flag .jpgs from the Factbook are. Given that we hadn't discussed it, I figured to just go ahead and add the large flags at their full Factbook size, also considering that it's easier to scale-down images than scale-up, should that be necessary.
Most flags are 450 px in width and some 300 in height, several are wider than that, but rarely higher. In the case of simple tricolours and such a reduction would be most welcome, but we risk to lose the finer details found in flags with coats of arms or intricate designs. Rather than basing all large flags on a fixed width (which is required for the medium flags that must fit in the table), perhaps we could downsize all "simple" flags to, say, a height not exceeding 200 px (since width does not matter here), and leave the "detailed" ones at their present size of 300 px in height? Shall I make a few examples of a detailed flag at various sizes so we can compare?
In other news, the Factbook has been updated for 2002 (for the flags, see here), which also means we now have the missing flags of Afghanistan, the Comoros and Rwanda. The Factbook now posts their flags as .gifs, but they don't seem to have improved their designs at all, so I don't think a complete re-upload will be necessary at this point. Scipius 15:27 Oct 26, 2002 (UTC)
:I think width and not height is the most important thing here. I resized :Image:Us flag large.png from nearly 600 px wide to 400 which is the max width suggested by Wikipedia:Image use policy. Even on the flag pages we could still have media links to the huge images via  centered and under the flag. Mock-ups would be most welcome. --mav
::Well, if 400 px is the maximum width by policy, then I don't think we need mock-ups. 400 px max width it is then. I'll get to it over time, but others are welcome to help ;) Scipius 20:04 Nov 3, 2002 (UTC)
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There are now many articles listed as Flag of XXXX, which are only linked from the relevent country. This page seems the appropriate place to put such a list but it does overlap somewhat with National Flags, so do you think they should go here?
:That thought had occured to me. I would suggest that it would perhaps be best to have the list of <Flag of x> articles at National flag, since those articles are really only about national flags. The tables here are wide enough (not to mention a whole mess of characters internally) as it is, so a simple list elsewhere would be clearer and easier. We can then prominently link to the National flag article from this article and limit this list to just flag images. -Scipius 20:55 Dec 11, 2002 (UTC)
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:I'd like to add some historical flags for countries or regions which no longer exist as separate entities - Prussia, East Prussia, Orkney, and so on.  Should those go into "historical flags", I assume?  Also, how are state flags going to be organized; in alphabetical order after the country they're in, I assume?  Is there any reason I shouldn't put some state flags in where they logically would go?  I don't want to stomp on anyone's notions of how the page should be organized, I just want to get a few dozen flags out there for specific pages I'm writing. -- WikiDave
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Can someone add the U.N. flag? Kingturtle 12:20 Apr 18, 2003 (UTC)
The UN flag, the EU flag, the NATO flag etc; none are present. This is a whole category missing. — Sverdrup 11:24, 21 Mar 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm, those two seem to have been removed from the list all together. Why? Wondering simply, -- Infrogmation 18:37, 29 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other flags 

message: True or false: this article can be renamed Complete list of flags to avoid confusion with Lists of flags. 66.32.251.152 00:04, 19 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: IMO, this list should be moved to Wikipedia namespace and used as technical help to editors, and this title should then be redirect to Lists of flags (or perhaps Lists of flags could be moved here). I don't see the point in having an article which lists all flags on Wikipedia, even less point in having links to images in the article... Nikola 09:39, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  True or false?? 

message: Since the flag images were based on public domain images, is it safe to call these images public domain also?  Peter O. (Talk) 00:37, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)
:I strongly suspect it is. I have myself added a few  tags to untagged flag images I have come across and will probably continue to do so. — Trilobite (Talk) 00:44, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: If someone has modified original PD image signifficantly, it is considered copyrighted and the person can choose to release it under GFDL (or back to PD). Nikola 09:33, 21 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright status 

message: The proper name is Flag of the United States, but this article says Flag of United States. Why?? 66.245.71.17 03:18, 25 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag names 

message: All of the flag pages that use Vexillological symbols, for example Flag of Bhutan, are now broken.  I assume it happened with the Mediawiki upgrade.  Ideas for how to fix it?  Dbenbenn 22:53, 31 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Vexillological symbols]] broken 

message: Hi, I'm assuming that as mediawiki is now much more supportive of changing sizes of pictures, it's no longer bad to have pictures that are big?  I made a bunch of historical US flags, in quite high resolution (1520×800 pixels).  I think it would be worth it to make more flags in high resolution, as a useful resource for people looking to use them for things other than small-sized references.
When SVG-raster conversion is finally implemented, it will be wonderful to post svg files and have Wikipedia auto-resize them to whatever size a page requires.  Until then, I think high-quality PNG's is the way to go.
But what do other people think about the size?
--Jacobolus 04:17, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, absolutely!  Consider putting them on the Commons while you're at it.  dbenbenn | talk 04:47, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a way you can make sure the images appear as thumbnails.  The only way the photo will be large is when people click on it.  Go ahead and post the images, I would love to see them. Zscout370 16:41, 19 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag Sizes 

message: Some flags have a different aspect ration (width/height). When scalled downed and used in tables this turns out to be quite messy: see example on   Wikipedia_talk:Country_referencing_templates#Smaller flags. So the idea is to have a fix aspect ratio for the flags (3:2 seems OK). Bart l 15:17, 8 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Nonsense.  Flag images should have the correct ratio.  MediaWiki provides syntax to limit the height as well as the width of an image.  If you want a flag to be 20px high, just use 999999999x20px.  dbenbenn | talk 22:12, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right as I figured out later on. Problem was with the original country flag templates (like  only the witdh (25px) was used to represent the icon, but since this is changed now (see :template:country flagcountry) they are presented much better (by reducing the height to 15px, with the 2nd parameter) Bart l 22:30, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag Aspect Ratio 

message: The FOTW site has many more religious flags - and there are a few like the saffron pennants of Hinduism, Sikhism, etc. which are  especially lacking here. However; for other "sited" flag specimens, I was wondering: when is it appropriate to list such a flag? How do you determine or quantify common usage? And what of the copyright when it is a recently created flag? I would like to help out with creating any said flags, but I would hope someone could contact me with such answers/details. Plus there are more complicated flags that are beyond my limited graphic skills! I know I've touched upon oft-mentioned questions not only here but other vexillological hubs of the net. I've just wondered about the status and non-official nature of these flags; associated with a belief, but not any central authority for a while. I figured, what better people to query than Wikipedians? Khirad | talk  03:44, 25 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flags and Religion 

message: All but for military flags out of thousands are missing here, too. Scriberius 12:07, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Military flags

message: I added the flags for planet Earth and Mars, is that appropriate for this list? PyroTom
* It is only if you can state a source for it... NASA? -- ×××jijin+machina | Chat Me!××× -- 05:39, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Planets 

message: the page is more than a little unwieldy.  it takes a while for the page to completely load, and sometimes some of the pictures of the flags do not load.  perhaps the page should be broken up (e.g., national flags on one page, the flags of each reason on their own page)?  Streamless 15:44, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes I have to say I'm inclined to agree with you, that said I still think the 'list of flags' has an important place in its own right. If your looking for a paticular flag and don't know what country its for this is an invaluable reference page. If it was me I would leave the bottom section (everything after Z) on this page and at the top link out to two pages List of Flags #-L, and List of Flags M-Z. That way you break up the contents into three pages. You still have the great resource for finding an unknown flag but its in managable pieces not only for the server but for people downloading. -- Shimirel (Talk) 16:00, 12 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too Many Graphics on One Page 

message: I suggest we move this page to List of flags by name and then, if it gets large (which it already looks to me) separate into pages such as List of flags by name: A, List of flags by name: B, List of flags by name: C, etc. Georgia guy 01:11, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page move 

message: Why does this template (Lists of flags) include a random picking of countries, plus Antarctica? How a bout merging it with Template:Nationalflags, and perhaps adding links in its header to vexillology and heraldry for reference. =J //Big Adamsky 23:30, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd agree with the merging. - ChaChaFut 03:49, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Randomness

message: Does anyone know of a set of templates similar to  which include only the flag at the 20px size?  I am planning on doing a lot of Olympic results, and I don't want to look up the name of the flag image for every one of them :o\  tiZom(2¢) 16:57, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Template talk:Flag ¦ Reisio 23:00, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  You can find most of them at List of IOC country codes. If you click "edit", you can see most of them listed in the second column in the table, e.g.  for Afghanistan etc. --Valentinian 23:51, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag Image Templates 

message: The mention of flags of active autonomist and secessionist movements at the beginning doesn't exist. Nagelfar 20:30, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  no page 

message: I'm afraid of messing stuff up because I'm only just learning how this mark-up works, but could someone who does know how to do it without messing things up add the flag for the Conch Republic? Thanks!
67.129.136.161 21:19, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done (it is listed under "other") Valentinian (talk) 22:13, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conch Republic 

message: It seems that there's a small dispute going on relating to some minor details on the flags of Hong Kong and Macau. I'm not qualified regarding the correct designs but a post has been made to the flag guys at  http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:WikiProject_Flags asking them to investigate the matter. Let's hope somebody there will take a look so we can end up with two .svg images that everyone can accept as the real thing. Regards. Valentinian (talk) 22:52, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks Jesper.</p>For further details please refer to my or Jesper's user talk page, and the talk page of the Flags WikiProject on Commons. — Instantnood 14:30, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hong Kong and Macau 

message: I broke the national flags and regional flags into separate articles since the page size is extremely large. Cburnett 01:22, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How about linking index points 1 & 2 directly to the list of flags? We would by-pass needless mouse-clicks. --Arinsau 21:27, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extremely large size 

message: This flag was NOT the flag of the Empire of Japan NOR a historic one. It was the flag of the Imperial Japanese Navy and is NOW the flag of the Japan Maritime Self-Defense Force. I think this flag should be removed from the section. --Park-j 06:46, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I could certainly be regarded as a flag of the Japanese Empire, but since it is still used you can hardly call it "historical." Removed now from that section. --Himasaram 08:46, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Historic flag of the Japanese Empire

message: Is there a flag that represents stateless people? --necronudist 15:58, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Stateless flag

message: There seem to be a lot of red image links (indicating an attempt to display an image which no longer exists).  AnonMoos 01:01, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have cleaned up all the red links now, relocating images under new names, uploading a few from Free sources and commenting out a whole lot where no easy replacement could be found. --Himasaram 08:47, 4 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Dead image links

message: :Image:Coast guard flag.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Coast guard flag.gif

message: :Image:Coast guard flag.gif is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Coast guard flag.gif

message: The IP user  keeps adding the Falun Gong logo to this list. This is wrong for multiple reasons: it's not a flag but rather an emblem or seal AND it's an unfree image an as such should not be in a list in the first place. This user also destroys the table syntax of the article. I will revert one last time, but won't be drawn into a revert war beyond this. --Himasaram 04:10, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Falun Gong logo 

message: I've been moving sections of this article into articles of their own over the last few weeks. Now, very little of use is left. Now, we could easily just delete it, but I see a use in keeping it around as a list of flag lists. Therefore, I suggest it be moved to List of flag lists. --Himasaram 03:49, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this is a bad idea. The original full list of flags, at a reasonably small size, was an excellent idea. Splitting it up makes it harder to navigate, and harder to find a flag from its image or description alone. - fchd 08:24, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the latest consensus is that pure image galleries/lists without substantial 'encyclopedic' content are unsuitable for the 'pedia. If you want the 'classic style' list of flags back, you are free to recreate it on Commons instead. --Himasaram 21:48, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Tip: There's a similar list in wikiproject namespace, at Wikipedia:WikiProject Heraldry and vexillology/World Flags. --Himasaram 11:37, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Himasaram, what is this "consensus" to which you refer?  The debate around deleting Gallery of city flags was far from a blanket endorsement of moving all illustrated lists of flags to commons, though that is what appears to be happening, as if this policy had been fully debated and discussed.  As there is to my knowledge no much consensus, I'm removing the policy statement at the top of this page. --ScottMainwaring 16:50, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The future of this list 

message: The list of sovereign-state flags should be at Wikipedia. At the moment, List of flags links to a page on Commons ("Sovereign-state flags"). Under each flag is a link back to English Wikipedia articles about the country and about flags of that country. This set-up is fine as long as no one removes the links in the gallery (since Commons is a multilingual project, this might not be long). A list of sovereign-state flags with links to articles about those countries and links to articles about the flag is a useful navigational page for Wikipedia to have. Furthermore, such a page is encyclopaedic - it is informative and very useful. Even a basic encyclopaedia for children contains a list of flags. --Oldak Quill 13:37, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of flags - Wikipedia and Commons 

message: I am very shocked that there is only a very small amount of countries in the 'by country' section. I propose that we keep this section but only include a few of the major countries, but then have a link to a complete list of flags by country. This should enclude all countries and their relative flag page. I will start to create the list of flags by country page anyway as i feel that wikipedia can benifit from this. Thanks rockyourworld (talk) 18:53, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of flags - Countries 

message: There isn't the Jolly Roger Flag, it's a big disappointment. Why this choice? I added it in political flags. ----Piergiovaldo (talk) 00:57, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jolly Roger Flag 

message: How about creating a section about alternative flags, which would include the proposals for a new flag of Australia or NZL, for example?--Severino (talk) 14:00, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative Flags 

message: I would like to add a page to list, discuss flags that display mythological creatures. For example, the National Flag of Bhutan displays a dragon. The flag of Wales displays a Griffon. Also, the regional flag of Sicily displays a Medusa, to name a few. Bengnew to Wiki editing, i wanted to start a discussion around the topic and its merit to add a ne page. Jtedeschi1968 (talk) 18:42, 24 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flags with Mythological Creatures