Talk:1948 Palestine war

message: @IOHANNVSVERVS, I believe that you have made 2 reverts within the last 24 hours. Please kindly self-revert your last edit. Alaexis¿question? 22:58, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for letting me know. I always thought one revert rule meant you can't revert the same content twice. Does it apply to simply making more than one revert on the same page even if regarding different content? IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 23:06, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, see WP:3RR:  Alaexis¿question? 17:16, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks I should've known. Reverted. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 19:31, 8 March 2024 (UTC)

text: If they hadn’t removed your undue POV injection I would have. إيان (talk) 23:06, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reverts 

message: Should we mention the exodus of Jews from Arab countries during and immediately after the war in the lede of this article? Alaexis¿question? 23:05, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it's a part of the IP conflict but not a significant-enough part of the 1948 war to merit being mentioned in the lead. While Morris says this is an "indirect" result of the war, I think the balance of sources do not treat this as a significant effect of the war, even indirectly. Further, in the RM for the article about the exodus, I quoted Tessler's book explaining the complicated factors he said was behind the exodus, and the war was only a small part of it; I won't reproduce the whole quote here but it applies to this RfC as well. It's something that happened over years during and after the war (1948-52), which is further evidence that while it's a part of the conflict, it's not a huge part of the (47-) '48 war. Levivich (talk) 01:25, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: 'It would have happened without the (1948) war. That is as hypothetical at least as the argument that the exodus was consequential on that war. For one thing, in an alternative history, one could imagine that the old Zionist priority to privilege Ashkenazi immigration over aliyah from 'Arabized' Jews (i.e. deemed slack, uneducated etc.,) probably would have prevailed, esp. given that they were the victims of a Holocaust whose mass immigration to the US and Great Britain was systematically blocked by those powers, for the usual electoral-antisemitic motives. 'Consequence' does not mean strictly an assertion of some mechanical 'post hoc ergo propter hoc' reasoning.   Nishidani (talk) 13:25, 25 March 2024 (UTC)

text: No: It wasn't a direct effect of the war; just an indirect side-effect in the aftermath of the conflict. Iskandar323 (talk) 06:18, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: agreed Slacker13 (talk) 21:57, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: You might want to amend your vote and clarify your position on this, @Slacker13. IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 22:04, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  RfC: Should we mention the exodus of Jews from Arab countries in the lede? 

message: I'd like to start making changes and especially additions to the photos in this article.
Not sure how to deal with copyright concerns and attirbution requirements etc however. I believe all images from this time and place are now in the public domain due to how long ago this all was. But what requirements are there for attribution with such images? Do I have to attribute photographer as well as the specific source (Haaretz for example) I got the photo from? Not sure how this all works.
If someone could advise me or
point me to where I can learn more about the relevant policies I'd appreciate it.
Thank you, IOHANNVSVERVS (talk) 11:12, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: They are not necessarily in the public domain in the US since the copyright can extend for 95 years after the publication for the works published at that time. Alaexis¿question? 15:51, 9 March 2024 (UTC)

text: Photo selection has been discussed above at Talk:1948 Palestine war#Images and NPOV and there is consensus that improvements would be welcome. IOHANNVSVERVS, you might like to familiarize yourself with the FAQ on Commons. On another note, one of the issues is that the vast majority of archival material out there is curated and provided by a belligerent military. إيان (talk) 16:14, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos 

message: Alaexis, in your edit you argue that . Please understand that Wikipedia:Wikipedia is not a reliable source. Please also see the cited reliable source: 
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The title alone should be sufficient. إيان (talk) 18:28, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I've reviewed the source and it seems like you're right and the uprising, unlike the general strike that had taken place before, was indeed peasant-led. Alaexis¿question? 20:22, 9 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  9 March 2024 

message: It seems like Salt is talking about Jerusalem rather than about the whole Mandatory Palestine. The word "its" in the first line of page 231 refers to the subject of the sentence, that is "Jerusalem." Alaexis¿question? 20:55, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. The figure for Jewish-owned land in all of Mandatory Palestine before the war is 7% per e.g. Morris 2008 p. 65. Levivich (talk) 21:42, 1 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, and a large part of the rest was publicly owned land. Alaexis¿question? 05:31, 2 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  18% 

message: The source doesn't support the text that was added to the article (bold) . This is what they say
 Alaexis¿question? 08:18, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The bolded text is pretty much what it says (sourced) at the wikilink? Selfstudier (talk) 10:41, 28 April 2024 (UTC)

text: "Supported" summarizes "provided covering fire and fired on the refugees fleeing ... helped evacuate the wounded and take some of the houses". Levivich (talk) 15:16, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Support