Talk:Batman (1989 film)/Archive 1

message: Batman (film) → Batman (1989 film) – For the sake of specificity. Hypothetically there could be a whole new movie named "Batman" in thirty or fifty years' time. --Phoenix-forgotten 00:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
* Support See above. Phoenix-forgotten 00:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move (Jan 2006)

message: :Add *Support or *Oppose followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your vote with ~~~~
* Support See above. Phoenix-forgotten 00:56, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Voting

message: Page moved. Eugene van der Pijll 18:00, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Result

message: Why didn't they get Jack Nicholson to be Joker in the new Batman(2005)? Was it because of the way that he demanded the pay for the first Batman(1989)? Or was it something else? ~*~Punk18~*~
::For starters, The Joker isn't in the new Batman. JamesBenjamin 01:33, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jack Nicholson--The new Batman 

message: No offence to whoever rewrote this summary, but could someone rewrite it so the events of the film are in proper order. If I do it (and I might someday if nothing happens) it'll probably end up like Batman Returns after I rewrote its summary.--Lenin & McCarthy 17:36, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summary 

message: I'm concerned about the trivia section; specifically, I'm concerned that it exists at all. We link directly to the IMDb; there's no need for us to duplicate its trivia section here, complete with contradictory information, hearsay, rumors, and unsourced, unprovable information. As it stands it's all random information without context or purpose. I'm pasting the old trivia section below. As people find references they can integrate this material into the article proper. If it's important enough to be mentioned we can find a way to do this in context. Let's make this a better article. Mackensen (talk) 00:43, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia section 

message: Data from the Japanese Wikipedia.
Video and DVD
*Bruce Wayne/Batman: Hiroyuki Watanabe
*Jack Napier/Joker: Demon Kogure
*Vicki Vale: Masumi Miyazaki
October 14, 1992 TBS Wednesday Road Show
*Bruce Wayne/Batman: Katsunosuke Hori
*Jack Napier/Joker: Tōru Ōhira
*Vicki Vale: Mika Doi
*Alexander Knox: Akira Murayama
*Alfred Pennyworth: Toshiya Ueda
*Commissioner Gordon: Kamei Saburō
*Carl Grissom: Goro Naya
*Harvey Dent: The late Kazuo Harada
*Alicia Hunt: Masako Katsuki
*Bob the Goon: Aruno Tahara
*Lieutenant Eckhart: Chafūrin
*Mayor: Kan Tokumaru
June 18, 1995 Morning Sun Sunday Western Theater
*Bruce Wayne/Batman: Kōichi Yamadera
*Jack Napier/Joker: Kenji Utsumi
*Vicki Vale: Mami Koyama
*Alexander Knox: Masashi Ebara
*Alfred Pennyworth: Minoru Uchida
*Comissioner Gordon: Yuzuru Fujimoto
*Carl Grissom: Chikao Ōtsuka
*Harvey Dent: Nobuo Tanaka
*Alicia Hunt: Seiko Fujiki
*Bob the Goon: Tadashi Hirose
*Lieutenant Eckhart: Shōzō Iizuka
*Mayor: Tamio Ōki
Cat's Tuxedo 22:37, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Japanese dubbing artists

message: I was just reading this article and there are numerous POV statements, unverified claims, spelling errors, improperly-formatted links, etc.
I'm absolutely shocked at how poorly-constructed this article is, especially considering that the subject is one of the most successful movies of all time.
This article is the shame of Wikipedia.GuruAskew 23:26, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is a joke. 

message: I say, whoever it was that did this certainly did a good job. So what if they made fun of Akiva Goldsman? What do you like Batman & Robin or something? Can you please explain examples? I would love for you to do so. wildroot 9:50, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: How So?

message: ...is that there's a huge amount of space devoted to synopses of developments scripts and material that never made it into the finished film, but there's next to nothing about the actual plot of the movie as filmed and released.  A lot of the Development section could be summarized or jettisoned completely. -- Pennyforth 18:06, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A primary flaw of this article as it currently stands.... 

message: Somebody needs to upload some images. wildroot 22:49, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: This Article Rocks, but....

message: :GA review (see here for criteria)
#It is reasonably well written.
#:a (prose):  b (MoS): 
#It is factually accurate and verifiable.
#:a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 
#It is broad in its coverage.
#:a (major aspects):  b (focused): 
#It follows the neutral point of view policy.
#:Fair representation without bias: 
#It is stable.
#:No edit wars etc.: 
#It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
#:a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 
#Overall: 
#:Pass/Fail: 
*"Home video" has no references.  Done. Added 2 references.
*"Music" and "Warner Brothers" could use some more references. (WP:CITE) Done. Added 2 references.
*"Cast" and "Warner Brothers" need some editing, there's too much useless information.  Done
*The "Reaction" section could easily be expanded, plus, it has only one reference (the second one is dead). Googling "Batman 1989 review" will probably give a lot of information. Done. Added 2 references.
*There are too many wikilinks, plain English words should not be linked (writer, dark, screenplay, serious, girlfriend, dead, etc). Another wikilinking problem are dates, sometimes years are linked and sometimes full dates are not. There's also no need to wikilink anything more than once in one paragraph (Hollywood, DC comics, Batman, etc. are linked EVERYTIME!), linking decades is also discouraged (30s, 40s, etc.). The 60s tv show is linked far too many times, and why would someone link entire phrases like this:  "ever since the TV series was cancelled"? just MAYBE, if the tv show hasn't already been linked in the paragraph link TV SHOW, but not the entire phrase. This happens quite a lot in the article, fix that. You should check these out to fully understand what i'm talking about: WP:OVERLINK and WP:MOS-L. Done I removed as much random wikilink and overaccessive words as possible.
*This article talks about Batman the movie, but it sometimes mentions things like this:He spends the next twenty years of his life training his mind and body for his destiny// why he looks or behaves the way he does //turning public sentiment against him and branding him a wanted outlaw // the literal process by which Bruce Wayne becomes Batman. This wikilinks become confusing, it shows "when and where" this episodes took place, as if they actually took place, as if Batman's life was a straight line composed in episodes. And it's not. This comic books and films should either not be mentioned or mentioned in another way, showing their pertinency to this article. (WP:WAF) Done
*"Tom Mankiewicz's script" should either be removed or further summerized, as it's almost completly irrelevant to the film itself. Done
::I'll leave this on hold for seven days, then i will take another look. Cheers, Yamanbaiia 15:09, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, i fixed some other things. I'm promoting to GA, good job :) Yamanbaiia 00:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA review 

message: Thanks to me and Wildroot, all the problems have been fixed. Also, I 'd appreciate if someone could review Superman film series. Limetolime 01:56, 31 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, i fixed some other things. I'm promoting to GA, good job :) Yamanbaiia 00:30, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  After review 

message: I'm doubting the article status due to the following concerns:
#The lead section is far too sparse to be a concise overview of the article.
 Wildroot 15:09, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Article Reassessment 

message: It's mentioned in this section that there was no computer generated graphics.  Why even mention this?  It seems fairly obvious that there wouldn't be.  The first computer generated character in a film appeared just a few years earlier in Young Sherlock Holmes.  Computer graphics were not advanced enough to use in such a way at this time.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 204.87.86.50 (talk) 16:29, 21 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Style

message: Somehow the text says Gotham City is silly in the grip of....
When I go to edit 'silly' disappears...
Yyem (talk) 08:03, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Silly

message: I've recently developed an interest in Jon Peters, and there is a bit of information on this article that clashes with information in the Tim Burton article. In this article, it says that Jon Peters suggested the casting of Michael Keaton, and Burton agreed. In the Tim Burton article, it says Burton fought Jon Peters in order to get Keaton cast. These are backed up by print sources I have no access to, not online sources. Can anyone help sort out which is right?--122.109.146.138 (talk) 18:19, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peters, Burton and Michael Keaton 

message: while the 1988 Writers Guild of America strike forced Hamm to leave the set
Who is Hamm? He's not mentioned at any point prior to this reference.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.124.75.35 (talk) 03:59, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Um.. who? 

message: Before I take this article to Featured Article Candidacy, I have to prove that the following websites are reliable sources:
*http://www.superherohype.com
*http://www.snarkygossip.com
*http://www.dailyscript.com
*http://www.batmanytb.com
*http://www.batman-on-film.com
*http://www.scifiscripts.com
Since I have no way of explaining this, other than Being Bold, it's probably best to collect other opinions from editors. http://www.superherohype.com because it has its own page at Superhero Hype!, it that makes any sense. Batman-on-Film might pass since "Batman-related" filmmakers such as David Goyer, Michael Uslan and Chris Corbould call call it reliable. And nice.
However, the other websites might be a little tricky. Alientraveller said it's good to only use sites like those for interviews and set visits, when information comes directly from the source. Then again, the doesn't explain http://www.scifiscripts.com or http://www.dailyscript.com.
*Comment - On general principle, none of those places are reliable. If "DailyScript.com" and "SciFiScript.com" are placed to get scripts, then absolutely no. You need to find a source that talks about the script, as the actual script is difficult to authenticate. Unless those other sources have personal interviews they are conducting, then they aren't reliable. Batman-on-film is a fansite.  It's like Kryptonsite.com for Smallville. It may be accurate, but it isn't reliable.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 23:50, 24 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't use, or at least we shouldn't, SHH unless they has word-of-mouth information. If they're doing scooper reports, then no..and SHH likes to do a lot of "inside information" reports...just like BOF.com has their "insider" that gives them information. Without specific names of someone they contacted, then it really isn't reliable because rumors are rumors and that is what that information is when someone official has not announced it.   BIGNOLE   (Contact me) 02:26, 26 October 2008 (UTC)

text: It was a Michael Uslan interview. Not "a-I-just-heart-from-one-of-my-inside-sources-at-Warner-Bros." type of report. Wildroot (talk) 02:34, 26 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Reliable Sources

message: What happened to the cast list? :/ 72.95.145.190 (talk) 21:33, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was merged with the Casting section during the A-Class review. Wildroot (talk) 03:00, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why was it necessary to merge the cast list for the A-Class review.Sha-Sanio (talk) 03:04, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Because Wikipedia told me they would kill me if I didn't do it. Wildroot (talk) 02:02, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uh... 

message: Hi Wildroot,
I've started some work on the plot, maybe you would like to take a look at it, maybe we can add it to the Batman (film) article. It's going to take some time until I will finish the plot section so maybe you can take a look at it in advance. Sha-Sanio (talk) 16:15, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Plot

message: Bad engrish throughout.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.194.108.190 (talk) 22:55, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There isn't a section called "Cast". Wildroot (talk) 04:51, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cast" section needs rewording. 

message: Sentence about awards was re-written for clarity.  Original sentence made it look like there were many Academy Award nominations when there was only one.  --Davmpls 01:54, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Um...thanks. You didn't need to bring this to the talk page though. Simply putting it in your edit summary, which you did, is fine. Just so you know. Anakinjmt (talk) 04:04, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, you never know.  Some people get very agitated if you edit anything.  Better to say it and explain it.Davmpls 14:49, 3 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paragraph 3 

message: Warner Bros. was impressed, but Englehart felt there were too many characters. He removed the Penguin and Dick Grayson in his second treatment, finishing in May 1986 but this from media class at moat community college
78.111.193.120 (talk) 11:10, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It was just vandalism. I've removed it. Thanks for the heads-up. Anakinjmt (talk) 16:59, 15 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  A line which doesn't make sense 

message: Box Office Mojo puts the production budget at $35M.  They're not the most precise source, but a 50% difference w/ the listed budget deserves more than passing explanation.  The source used for the high budget listed looks like a "tell all" book claiming to show how certain people took Sony for a ride... not a neutral source at first blush.  +sj+ 06:51, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Budget source 

message: The de Vries article is cited as a source for the claim that "Adam West felt himself to be a better choice", but as far as I can see, it says nothing of the sort.  Rather than just insert a citation needed tag, I thought I'd ask here if anyone has a better cite? Goldenband (talk) 01:08, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adam West 

message: An AFD has decided that an awful article about a small character in this film should be merged into this article. This article is very nice and I don't wish to ruin it, any ideas about how we should do this merge? Ryan4314  (talk) 20:14, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Max Eckhardt merge 

message: I wanted to add that some location filming was also undertaken at Hanwell Asylum - a few miles down the road from Acton Lane Power Station (mentioned).  Some of the closed down wards to the west of the hospital were off limits for 2 to 3 weeks for filming and Jack Nicholson chatted to some staff and signed a few autographs on one day towards the end of filming. He had a large left-hand drive Winnebago for his use and being left-hand drive one wondered if it was his own vehicle that he had had brought over from the states specially.  Having watched the film a few times I have never managed to spot a single scene which I could say was shot at Hanwell Asylum, but the empty wards were frequently used as empty shells, and in at least one case (not this film) had been painted black (walls ceiling and windows) and turned into a night club - so the Batman production people could have done anything in there.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.29.243.39 (talk) 17:09, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have any references that corroborate your information? GoingBatty (talk) 22:30, 19 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Filming 

message: i think this is an information more important than just trivia. But if you deleted it twice maybe you right. So long, and thanks for all the fish ;) Assianir (talk) 22:59, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Corto Maltese]] 

message: There's an error in paragraph one of the Production section. Strange Apparitions was never a limited series -- it's just a paperback collection of Englehart and Roger's runs on Detective Comics, issues 469-479 (including a few issues worked on by only one or the other). I hope this helps! It's a minor issue, but since the article's locked I couldn't fix it myself.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.172.53.63 (talk) 16:41, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: GoingBatty (talk) 00:28, 16 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Strange Apparitions error 

message: The further information link in the development section is currently broken. Could someone please relink it to Batman in film#Tim Burton / Joel Schumacher series. Thank you. --139.168.116.212 (talk) 13:08, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: GoingBatty (talk) 18:54, 22 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further Information on Development 

message: There are banners on the production section and on the article Batsuit (1989) suggesting that the latter be merged into the former; I support this. That article is completely auxiliary, uncited and duplicates information from this article. Most of it seems to be OR, and what little interesting information there is should be included in the production process here. It does not meet notability by itself. Much better treat of both of them here. Best, --Ktlynch (talk) 19:43, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Support - GoingBatty (talk) 00:30, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Batsuit merge request 

message: Brazil by Terry Gilliam was a notable influence upon the film's production design, both Burton and Furst studied it as a reference, for a source see: Alan Jones. "Batman in Production", Cinefantastique, November 1989. I'd add that fact myself, but it looks like the article is protected as of now. --79.193.43.24 (talk) 06:45, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: - GoingBatty (talk) 18:54, 6 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gilliam's ''Brazil'' influence 

message: 134.174.21.5 (talk) 17:13, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you please be more specific as to what you would like to add that is not already in the infobox or Casting section?  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 17:54, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request from 134.174.21.5, 16 March 2011 

message: We should add a section for the cast. 134.174.21.5 (talk) 17:13, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you please be more specific as to what you would like to add that is not already in the infobox or Casting section?  Thanks!  GoingBatty (talk) 17:54, 16 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add Cast section 

message: Is it possible to add Catharine O'Hara's (later recast) role in the casting section? She was supposed to play the reporter that suffers from the Joker's toxins and collapses on air. This is pretty interesting considering her prior working relationship with Burton (and probably unknown to a lot of fans of the film) and I remember reading it in both a DC Comics letter column and an interview with O'Hara, but I finally found a citable article from the Toronto Star in which it's mentioned: http://www.thestar.com/entertainment/article/120421--o-hara-s-oscar-worthy-barrymore-moment - is this worthy of inclusion?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bopshowbiz (talk • contribs) 19:55, 30 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casting?  

message: Shouldn't there be at least a mention of the sequels, perhaps with links to their respective Wiki articles?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.92.174.105 (talk) 23:17, 16 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sequels? 

message: In the fourth paragraph of the Plot section Gotham is spelled 'Gotam', I wanted to do a quick edit but the article is locked.
:Fixed. Thanks! Fru1tbat (talk) 11:42, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typo: Gotam 

message: At the end of the introduction section, it says that The Dark Knight Rises was released in 2013, but it was released in 2012.
74.72.127.237 (talk) 16:29, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done  RudolfRed (talk) 16:37, 21 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 21 September 2013 

message: Critical response
69.133.97.34 (talk) 19:14, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: No specific request. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 17:32, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 8 May 2014 

message: MARKETING
In the months pre-dating Batman's release in June 1989, a popular culture phenomenon rose known as "Batmania".[31] Over $750 million worth of merchandise was sold.[21] 
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Macy's in conjunction with DC COMICS & the BATMAN movie held a contest with the prize being an appearance in the DC BATMAN COMIC. The entry forms were located in the Batman merchandising department at Macy's. The contest consisted of answering three Batman related questions correctly with one winner randomly picked. Two of the three questions were: Who was Batman's original girlfriend? Where were Batman's parents killed? The winner of the contest was F. Joseph LEONARD of San Francisco who appeared in the Batman Issue #459, February 1991, pages 6-8, Script by Alan Grant, Pencils by Norm Breyfogle, and Inks by Steve Mitchel. In the Batman 
comic, the winner was drawn being mugged by two punks in Murder's Alley. Batman saves him by tossing a flare thus blinding the bandits, then knocking them out. Joseph thanked Batman and shook his hand before leaving Gotham City. F. Joseph Leonard states that "It was a memorable experience. Winning the contest lets me say that not only have I visited Gotham City, but I shook Batman's hand in the Batman comic book!"   Addadada (talk) 11:41, 10 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  MARKETING (DC BATMAN CONTEST at Macy's )  

message: Change the budget to 35 Million to match the one in box office mojo reference.
98.28.130.193 (talk) 22:54, 9 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. The 48 million figure is mentioned in the body with a citation. You'd have to reach an agreement with the other editors to include both. Regards, Older and ... well older (talk) 15:42, 10 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 June 2014 

message: The 'plot' section not only has a couple of spelling errors, but could be clearer. Some parts do not have enough detail (if you were looking for specifics, as I have been known to do on this site). So mainly a tidy up of the plot and the correction of some spelling errors.
Gotham City is a city riddled with crime. Street thugs, corrupt policeman, gangsters; they're everywhere. With the city's 200 year anniversary looming and citizens scared to be out on he streets, the Mayor orders District Attorney Harvey Dent (Billy Dee Williams) and Police Commissioner James Gordon (Pat Hingle) to increase police activity. Recent sightings of a 'giant bat' attacking criminals not only intrigue reporter Alexander Knox (Robert Wuhl), but also brings photojournalist Vicki Vale (Kim Basinger) to Gotham. Together they begin to investigate reports of the vigilante, nicknamed "Batman".
Mob boss Carl Grissom (Jack Palance), discovers his mistress Alicia (Jerry Hall) is involved with his second-in-command, Jack Napier (Jack Nicholson). With the help of corrupt policeman Max Eckhardt (William Hootkins), Grissom sets up Napier to be murdered during a raid at the Axis Chemicals plant. During the ensuing shoot-out, Napier kills Eckhardt, after which Batman suddenly appears. In the ensuing struggle Napier is hit by a ricocheting bullet and falls into a vat of chemical waste. Commissioner Gordon sees Batman for the first time as he narrowly escapes police capture. Meanwhile, the presumed dead Napier's hand appears out of the waste after surviving his trip through the chemical plants sewage system.
Batman's alter ego Bruce Wayne (Michael Keaton), is a billionaire industrialist who, as a child, witnessed his parents' murder at the hands of a mugger. Bruce meets and falls for Vicki at a fundraiser he is hosting at Wayne Manor, and the two begin a relationship.
Napier makes his way to a backstreet surgeon, who with limited tools attempts to repair his face. Upon seeing his new twisted visage; a fixed grin, chalk-white skin and emerald-green hair, Napier's mind snaps, and he reinvents himself as "the Joker". Announcing his rebirth to Grissom, he kills the mob boss and takes control of his criminal empire.
The Joker begins to spread terror in the city, first by lacing hygiene products with a deadly chemical known as "Smilex", which causes victims to laugh to death when used in certain combinations. Via his right hand man Bob (Tracey Walter), The Joker becomes aware of Vale and is smitten. In a twisted romantic gesture The Joker sets a trap at the Gotham Museum of Art for Vicki, and he and his henchmen vandalize the surrounding works of art. Batman arrives and rescues Vicki, and the pair escape in the Batmobile. In the Batcave Batman reveals he has studied Smilex and has information that can negate its effects. He gives this information for Vicky to publish so she can warn the city about the poisoned products.
Bruce meets with Vicki at her apartment, prepared to tell her that he is Batman. They are interrupted by the Joker, who asks Bruce, "Have you ever danced with the devil by the pale moonlight?" before shooting him. Bruce, who was wearing a tea tray as makeshift armour, escapes. The Joker's quote prompts Bruce to go back through the file on his parent's murder, where he realises that Napier, who asked him the same question years before, is man responsible for his parent's deaths. Vicki suddenly appears in the Batcave, having been let in by Bruce's butler, Alfred Pennyworth (Michael Gough). After avouching himself to Vicki, Bruce—as Batman—leaves to destroy the Axis Chemical plant. The Batmobile, controlled via remote, blasts its way in and destroys the facility.
With his original plan foiled by Batman, Joker lures the people of Gotham to a parade with a promise to give away $20 million in cash. When the citizens arrive, however, he attacks them with Smilex gas spewing from the parade floats. Batman arrives on the scene in the Batwing and uses to it remove the floats, releasing them out over the bay. He then performs a strafing run on the Joker, but misses. In retaliation the Batwing is badly damaged and crashes into the steps of Gotham Cathedral. Vicki, who was at the parade attempting to warn people, rushes to the wreckage, but is taken hostage by the Joker, who forces her to the top of the Cathedral where they will be picked up by helicopter.
Batman pursues the two, and at the top of the dusty edifice, after defeating several goons, he and the Joker confront each other in single combat. Joker is no match for Batman, and is punched over the ledge. He grabs on to both Batman and Vick, pulling them over with him. With the helicopters arrival, Joker wishes them both farewell, leaving them to fall from the old and decrepit Cathedral. As he ascends the heliopters lowered rope ladder however, Batman fires a bola attachment from this grapple gun, tying the Joker's leg to a stone gargoyle. With the helicopter pulling away, the gargoyle comes loose, pulling the Joker off the ladder to his death. 
In the press conference confirming the death of the Joker and the capture of his men, Commissioner Gordon unveils the Bat-Signal along with a note from Batman read by Harvey Dent, promising to defend Gotham whenever crime strikes again. 
SDCC (talk) 10:31, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The plot section does need a little touching up, but at 840 words, this version is too long. There are parts of the current summary that are much more concise than the above but do a good job at conveying/summarizing the events of the film. Which problems in particular are you most concerned with? Maybe it would be easier to address those as separate requests. --Fru1tbat (talk) 16:20, 23 June 2014 (UTC)

text: Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. I agree, this suggested replacement is too long.  Please work with each other to trim it down to something manageable and then reactivate this request if needed. —  (e • t • c) 22:27, 23 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 23 June 2014 

message: The rotten tomatoes rating of the movie is 72%. Why hasn't someone changed that.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.106.233.197 (talk) 16:53, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably because nobody noticed. In any case, it's fixed now. In the future, you can request edits like this using . Thanks! --Fru1tbat (talk) 17:06, 29 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Rotten tomatoes rating

message: Bob the Goon's last name is Hawkins. 
2602:306:2474:A949:8055:9E54:60BC:F0DB (talk) 15:10, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Sam Sailor Talk! 23:27, 6 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 November 2015 

message: The film stars Michael Keaton, Jack Nicholson in the title role,
should be replaced with:
The film stars Michael Keaton in the title role, Jack Nicholson,
Citation http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0096895/
14.202.210.181 (talk) 12:32, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Done --Fru1tbat (talk) 12:54, 12 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 12 March 2016 

message: change ((bicentennial)) to bicentennial
:Can you explain why you'd like to unlink the term? It goes to a valid article which is apropos for the usage in the plot section. --Fru1tbat (talk) 15:42, 1 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi-protected edit request on 1 December 2016

message: Should note that Batman was the first film to be given the BBFC 12 rating, and that this "made a big difference to the viewing patterns of younger cinemagoers."http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/2223293.stm  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 46.226.49.237 (talk) 09:22, 23 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Certification 

message: Under , it reads:
This is a confusing use of the word as, implying at first read that the event transpired the same way in the comic book. Please change this to:
 67.14.236.50 (talk) 22:26, 29 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. RivertorchFIREWATER 02:33, 30 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 March 2017 

message: I understand keeping with the films actual credits in the infobox - which reflects the film's credits as they were presented on screen excluding additional and uncredited writers, etc - but I believe it's fair to add the creator's credits to the main body of the article since it is in relation to the work as a whole. Bob Kane and Bill Finger are the creators of the Batman character and the supporting characters in the film. There is nothing that states we must keep their credit as creators out of the article just because the film's credits do so. Friendly Lobotomy (talk) 04:17, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The same principle applies to the lead as the infobox. They both reflect the film's credits. Also the lead is for the film, not the character, so it is inappropriate to put those names in the lead sentence. Do not keep putting your version in after it's been reverted. That is WP:edit warring. - Gothicfilm (talk) 04:39, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The film's credits give credit to at least Bob Kane, so then shouldn't his name be in the lead? And if we're putting Kane's name in the lead it seems only right to credit Finger as well since he is the co-creator of the character. Maybe it could be mentioned that Finger was uncredited, but still, a creator is mentioned in the film's credits.Friendly Lobotomy (talk) 04:48, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Only so much can go in the lead, and character creators do not come before the filmmakers on a WP film page. I would agree with Finger being mentioned as an uncredited creator in the article's Development section. - Gothicfilm (talk) 05:01, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. I added a reference to Finger's uncredited contribution to the Development section after a mention of Kane's work on the film as a consultant. Might tweek the wording and add additional reference to Finger's absence due to legal agreements with DC Comics.Friendly Lobotomy (talk) 22:42, 31 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bob Kane and Bill Finger credits in article 

message: "Bruce reveals he cannot focus on their relationship with Joker on the lose," should be changed to, "Bruce reveals he cannot focus on their relationship with Joker on the loose," Moose Hole (talk) 21:18, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Done! Thanks for finding this. --Fru1tbat (talk) 21:33, 18 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request (minor misspelling in Plot) 

message: Add Edwin Craig as Antoine Rotelli in cast.
Cmuñozbcn (talk) 18:54, 8 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit semi-protected 

message: Please add this link as a reference after the sentence about Nike product placement: 
https://www.criticalhit.net/entertainment/batman-1989-thirty-years-later-how-the-batsuit-was-designed-to-be-iconic-intense-and-mythical/
This reference includes detailed explanation about the costume but most importantly it includes a picture of the bat boots. (The other source is apparently a "Making of" feature from the home video which is a lot more difficult for people to get access to, so adding second source seems like a good idea.) -- 109.77.200.76 (talk) 00:55, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , but with a different link with more in-depth about the shoes. ◢  Ganbaruby!  (Say hi!) 09:34, 22 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit semi-protected: Boots 

message: At the end of the first plot paragraph, "He infatuates with Vale at the event" should be "He is infatuated with Vale at the event"
2601:643:8980:A70:BC13:FD3E:C738:F7D5 (talk) 18:52, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit semi-protected 

message: add that the film is based on batman by BILL FINGER and bob kane, everyone should know by now that he didnt create batman all by himself 2600:6C51:7C7E:F5D3:AD66:36A2:B186:3F9B (talk) 05:45, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I took at look at this, and in the infobox there's a hidden comment stating "Credit in the film: "Based on Batman characters created by Bob Kane". Do not add any other names. The infobox should reflect the film's official credits." It is noted elsewhere in the article that Bill Finger helped create this. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 15:21, 12 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 12 February 2021 

message: "Originally in the climax, the Joker was to kill Vicki Vale, sending Batman into a vengeful fury..." this whole paragraph comes word for word from a book called Blockbuster by UK critic Tom Shone (not Stone), which I guess was the basis for the (not linked) Telegraph article. I own that book and he doesn't seem to have a source for that claimed ending.
However you can see online that the pre-Burton Sam Hamm script drafts all end with a showdown on the Cathedral roof - in which a flock of bats cause Joker to stumble and fall, rather than a gargoyle tied to his foot. So an ending on the Cathedral roof must have always been considered.
The "I had to tell him I didn't know" interview seems to refer to the general studio re-writes, but the existence of a specific "joker kills Vicki" ending seems totally anecdotal and must have only existed briefly if ever. Google shows that many people online claim it was the "original ending" but can't seem to find a source.
(article here behind paywall- https://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/film/3624669/How-Hollywood-had-the-last-laugh.html)
188.29.36.19 (talk) 19:57, 3 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  the "Joker kills Vicki" supposed "original ending" 

message: Not only is the film a "period piece" in that, just like its influence Brazil, it largely references and emulates the 1930s and 1940s (a trait which makes both Burton Batmans, also like Brazil, an important early piece of Dieselpunk), as mentioned by the article already. The article could also mention the fact that in the new 4K release, the newspaper which declares that "Batman cracks Joker's poison code" places the film pretty much in c. a 1947/48 timeframe. While there's no definite year printed (only a date of "Friday, November 7" is given), in the new 4K release, we can see that the paper's other articles mention that Harry S. Truman is president and that Ferenc Nagy has just recently been ousted as Prime Minister of Hungary. --2003:EF:170E:7F68:CD77:D34E:E7E2:576D (talk) 07:38, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, I've looked it up, and the only year when Truman was president that had November 7 be a Friday was 1947. On the cover, the newspaper also mentions the retirement of Frank Hague as Mayor of Jersey City, New Jersey after 30 years, which also happened in 1947. --2003:EF:170E:7F44:CD77:D34E:E7E2:576D (talk) 19:16, 14 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Period piece" 

message: Please revert this image delete by the bot which is strictly enforcing standards. Strictly speaking a fair use rationale must be added every time the image is used, so I added it and it should now be acceptable to revert the delete. -- 109.79.172.210 (talk) 18:50, 12 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Restore image

message: I wish to correct the accurate movie facts for the 1989 movie Batman because all of its details are wrong. 2600:1700:8780:4600:9964:ECBB:5156:DE8D (talk) 03:25, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Cannolis (talk) 04:35, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 April 2022