Talk:House of Luxembourg

message: This is really the Limbourg (Limburg)dynasty of Luxembourg. The House of Luxembourg would be the original dynasty directly descended from Siegfried I. That was followed by the Namur dynasty (Ermesinde I) and only then the Limburg dynasty (Eermesinde II). Alternatively those three original dynasties could be listed under House of Luxembourg (plus all the relevant branches).
--Caranorn 16:05, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And another note, the supposed Luxembourg family tree actually is a family tree of the (Hohen)Staufen and only shows the last few rulers of the Limbourg-Luxembourg dynasty. Unfortunatelly I have no time (I'm already busy trying to complete the list of Luxembourg dynasts on the Luxembourgish pages) to either extend this article or clarify which dynasty it concerns.--Caranorn 12:44, 10 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. We are using the name Luxembourg to refer to German royal dynasties, but the term house of Luxembourg is I think more often used for a branch of the House of Ardenne. What's worse, our article on that family does not mention this branch at all. Ardennes-Verdun dynasty--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 11:55, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: title of this article needs review

message: In particular, Ogive of Luxebourg links are being redirected to this page, but it mentions nothing of her, her father, siblings, or her son. 08:02, 28 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Restating what is said above, I guess. 

message: I will post also at Ardennes-Verdun dynasty. Anywhere else? I propose.
*We move/rename House of Luxembourg to more specific Limbourg-Luxembourg Dynasty, like other Holy Romen Empire dynasties. Spelling is based on local modern spelling preferences and avoiding confusions between different Limburg/Limbourgs. But potentially it could be "Limburg".
*We create House of Ardenne-Luxembourg as a sibling article to Ardennes-Verdun dynasty covering the other main branches of the House of Ardennes. The descendants of Count Sigefried etc.
*We move/rename Ardennes-Verdun dynasty to House of Ardenne-Verdun to be consistent. (Scholars tend not to use the "s" for some reason.)
*We create either a stub/dab page for people searching for House of Ardennes. For now the main articles will be the two main branches but this article can cover the first generations and anyone not in the main branches.
*We create a dab for people searching for House of Luxembourg, House of Luxemburg etc, given the options of the Limbourg-descended dynasty or the older Ardenne-Luxembourg family who they descend from.
Please note any concerns or tweaks needed to this plan. Otherwise I think it is clear enough to go ahead?
:Citation: Parisse, ‘Généalogie de la Maison d'Ardenne’, La maison d'Ardenne Xe-XIe siècles. Actes des Journées Lotharingiennes, 24 - 26 oct. 1980, Centre Univ., Luxembourg, (1981) 9-41--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 15:07, 1 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this should be moved back to House of Luxembourg, which continues to redirect here anyway. The German royal dynasty is much more famous than any other and it is what people mean by "[House of] Luxembourg [dynasty]". The hatnote can take care of the ambiguity. The current title is unknown to scholarship. Srnec (talk) 03:10, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed I never finished off the above idea of making a dab page, and your proposal could also work if the hatnote was done properly. I don't have a strong preference on how to finish things off. I suppose my original concern (it was some years ago) was to make sure we had a clear article about the descendants of Sigefrid (which is also certainly a topic known to scholarship, though under various names).--Andrew Lancaster (talk) 08:09, 12 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal. Articles names and moves 

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message: I'm removing some of the heraldry discussions and discussions about Loon and Grandpré and relatives in general. Apart from sourcing and notability I think that some of these topics are either for another article, or else they would need to be written up in some completely different way in order to show the relevance to this article. I think the main family tree should for example be a family tree of THIS family. One reason for posting this remark here is to make sure people realize there is material in the article history which might be useful elsewhere. Andrew Lancaster (talk) 17:19, 6 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed material