Template talk:Districts of Kosovo

message: I have edited the article to include International/Serbian and Albanian names and corrected its description to Province of Serbia under United Nations administration. This should satisfy everyone (who behaves rationally). Templates are meant to be an information tool, not more fodder for edit wars or to "reflect the hopes" of any group. Regards, Asterion 07:12, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And this satisfies everyone because it satisfies you? who are you to judge what is rational and what is not? I thought that was very subjective. The template should reflect the UNMIK official administration publications, not claims of the Serbian govt. regards,2Ilir pz 09:21, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The current version is more neutral. The official name of Kosovo is put first, without Metohija. Then Albanian version as it is alphabetically first, and then the Serbian version. Thanks for judging my behavior instead, Asterion. Yours is to be proud of, you are doing mass vandalism anywhere any topic has to do with Albanians, and reverting. I am going to have you under my binoculars, and start a very careful arbitration case, as this is too much from your side. Kosova IS a territory under UN administration. And not for a long time. If you don't like this, and do not want to respect the official approved documents of UN in Kosova, such as the constitutional framework, then it is your problem. I am only citing from there. . No need to revert, as I will do the same, and my revert is based on an internationally accepted documents, yours is on nationalism, and dreams of returning Kosova under the Serbian rule again. Ilir pz 09:16, 6 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Uh... Why do you hate the name Metohija so much, Ilir pz? --HolyRomanEmperor 00:52, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Before you edit this template, make sure you are familiar with [[WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_soapbox]] policy

message: http://www.unmikonline.org/regulations/unmikgazette/03albanian/A2000regs/RA2000_45.pdf
http://www.unmikonline.org/regulations/unmikgazette/04serbian/SC2000regs/RSC2000_45.pdf
PRIVREMENE INSTITUCIJE
1.1 Do odredjivawa bududjeg statusa Kosova, ova Uredba, u skladu
Rezolucijom 1244 Saveta bezbednosti Ujediwenih nacija, uspostavqa
privremene institucije za demokratsku i autonomnu samoupravu na op{tinskom
nivou kao korak ka postepenom prenosu administrativnih nadle`nosti
Privremene administrativne misije Ujediwenih nacija na Kosovu (UNMIK-
koja }e nadgledati i pru`ati podr{ku konsolidaciji ovih institucija.
I think if you accept like the serbs in Kosovo accept this document that you are going to anderstuden that the onl law in Kosovo is the UNMIK-law til  =  Do odredjivawa  the statut of Kosovo is determined. Because of this argument I must return the page in my verzion.--Hipi Zhdripi 02:19, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Komuna/Opstina

message: Finde out the document in wicht Kosovo is representit today in the UN (our samwer els), unter the Serbian Flag.--Hipi Zhdripi 17:44, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The onus is on you. Kosovo and Metohija is a province of Serbia, which was part of the FR of Yugoslavia, whose new name is Union of Serbia and Montenegro. Whether you like it or not, Kosovo is part of Serbia. End of the argument. Asterion 17:53, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  My fried you are maken a mistek. Serbia is not mining SR Serbia.--Hipi Zhdripi 17:59, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Serbia is not a state.--Hipi Zhdripi 18:02, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

text: [The UN] reafirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the other States of the region
Regards,Asterion 19:05, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: sr:Српске општине на Косову и Метохији. No comment ... --Hipi Zhdripi 01:32, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Before you make the rev. 

message: ...The truth is that this is an encyclopedia. Whatever your feelings are, Kosovo is not an independent territory but a province of Serbia, part of the Union of Serbia and Montenegro,  under transitory administration by the United Nations. If you are unfamiliar with the Security Council resolution on the matter, please refer to previous mention above. You might be frustated with reality but please understand that this is not a political forum. Regards, Asterion 06:47, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: you are so understanding of the situation. you keep amazing me every day. I am not impressed by your words here at all, as i know what actions you take behind this "understanding" you show here. Pretty used to this kind of triple-faced actions, have lived more than a decade under Serbian occupation. You seem to think and work exactly as those you sympathize (read SPS)Ilir pz 10:49, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: no need to waste time in adding the serbian flag, or Metohija name to this template. I will sadly have to remove it after every morning coffee. This template is in English, thus only the English name for it should remain. And Kosova is always represented internationally with UN flag. So, where is that I am not right? Answer before changing. Ilir pz 09:50, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whether you like it or not... 

message: UN Security Council Resolution S/RES/1244(1999) of 2 June 1999 (S/1999/649, annex 2 to this resolution)
::[The UN] reafirming the commitment of all Member States to the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia and the other States of the region
Regards, --Asterion talk to me 19:31, 24 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You and compromise are as close as +/- infinity. Well, fine, we go back to the revert war you like. Ilir pz 20:37, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kosovo is a province of Serbia under UN transitional administration 

message: My changes are based on facts, the UN Administration in Kosova approved document called "Kosovo Constitutional Framework"  states in its first chapter that: 
1.1 Kosovo is an entity under interim international administration which, with its people, has unique historical, legal, cultural and linguistic attributes.
1.2 Kosovo is an undivided territory throughout which the Provisional Institutions of Self-Government established by this Constitutional Framework for Provisional Self-Government (Constitutional Framework) shall exercise their responsibilities.
etc.
It cannot be clearer. Please follow the updated official documents before changing the template. Thank you. Ilir pz 20:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Quoting from the same document you mention: 
Affirming that the exercise of the responsibilities of the Provisional Institutions of Self-Government in Kosovo shall not in any way affect or diminish the ultimate authority of the SRSG [Union of Serbia and Montenegro] for the implementation of UNSCR 1244(1999);
--Asterion talk to me 21:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: SRSG stands for Senior Representative of Security General hehehehehehehehehehheIlir pz 21:09, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Lol! I thought it was really stupid to call it Federal Republic of Serbia and Montenegro. In any case, my point being that a framework is a document in progress used as the basis for something being constructed. And as it says in the text, it does supersee the UN SC Resolution 1244, as you know. Cheers and good night, --Asterion talk to me 21:12, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: hehehhehe, you can be fun after all. I strongly believe you will change, as your strong-headedness will just lead you nowhere. One day you will wake up saying "oh my God, 1244 resolution does not exist anymore, what else can I fight with to 'defend' Kosovo 'truth'?!?" The sooner you realize that is not worth wasting time on, the better. There is so much more important stuff you can help contribute with. You seem to know wikipedia rules, and know how to do research. We can better Kosovo related articles in a more constructive way together. Cheers, Ilir pz 21:16, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes 

message: Hi Ilir,
Why do you object so much to having Kosovo listed as what it is, a province of Serbia under UN administration? I have given you the facts and the sources and you have still been unable to provide a single one. I already explained you that an encyclopaedia is not a matter of personal preferences. As far as everyone is concerned, Kosovo is still part of Serbia and we need to show this as it is. Whatever happens next, wikipedia will reflect the changes, but at this point, you cannot simply call it a "territory" as this factually incorrect. Quoting from the UN website: "...Within Serbia there are two semi-autonomous provinces, Vojvodina (21,506 km²) in the north and Kosovo and Metohija (10,887 km²) in the south.". I could go on but you already know all this anyway. --Asterion talk to me 21:02, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Read above, for Christ's sake. Ilir pz 21:04, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ilir, provinces are provinces of a country. In this case, Serbia. I will remove all flags as long as you do not remove this 

message: It would replace the current version of Template:Kosovo and Template:KosMunic.
40px          	Districts and Municipalities of Kosovo
Districts     	Gjakovë / Đakovica • Gjilan / Gnjilane • Mitrovicë / Kosovska Mitrovica • Pejë / Peć • Prishtinë / Priština • Prizren • Ferizaj / Uroševac
Municipalities	Deçan / Dečani • Dragash / Dragaš • Gjakovë / Đakovica • Gllogovc / Glogovac • Gjilan / Gnjilane • Istog / Istok • Kaçanik / Kačanik • Kamenicë / Kosovska Kamenica • Klinë / Klina • Fushë Kosovë / Kosovo Polje • Leposaviq  / Leposavić • Lipjan / Lipljan • Malishevë / Mališevo • Mitrovicë / Kosovska Mitrovica • Novobërdë  / Novo Brdo • Obiliq / Obilić • Rahovec / Orahovac • Pejë / Peć • Podujevë / Podujevo • Prishtinë / Priština • Prizren • Skenderaj / Srbica • Shtërpcë  / Štrpce • Shtime / Štimlje • Suharekë / Suva Reka • Ferizaj / Uroševac • Viti / Vitina • Vushtrri / Vučitrn • Zubin Potok • Zveçan / Zvečan
It is a little rough around the edges at the moment. I have tried to keep it as neutral as possible using both Albanian and Serbian. Let me know what you think. Phildav76 19:16, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: * I think your version should replace the current one ,for the reason the reason that it has the districts and the municipalities + in both languages. But we will need a new map soon that only has the kosovo borders --Bindicapriqi (talk) 20:11, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  My idea of for a new version 

message: The correct order of names should be Albanian Name first / Serbian Name second. This is not only because Albanian is the primary language in Kosovo, but also because of the UNMIK regulation: http://www.unmikonline.org/regulations/unmikgazette/04serbian/SC2000regs/RSC2000_43.pdf .Therefore, I am modifying the template accordingly.--Arbër Let's talk  19:42, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The English Wikipedia is not bound by UNMIK regulations, nor does it follow UNMIK naming conventions; it has its own ones. Our aim is to provide information to English-speakers in a manner that would help them understand each topic, not to reflect official usages of any country or international body. Wikipedia aims to be an encyclopaedia, not a diplomatic- or governmental-style publication. - Ev (talk) 20:39, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding Names 

message: This template is for the whole territory of Kosovo, not just Republic of Kosovo.
United Nations Interim Administration Mission in Kosovo.
The Assembly of Kosovo unanimously adopted the declaration of independence on 17 February 2008. However UN Resolution 1244 is still in force, which means that ultimate responsibility for the administration of Kosovo still falls on the Special Representative, and not on the self proclaimed Republic of Kosovo.
Tadija (talk) 18:33, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As already discussed on the Talk:Kosovo page, the flag of the Kosovo government, unrecognized by the majority of the world, is not the flag of Kosovo. If the Serbian parliament adopted a Kosovo flag, it would still not be used as the official Kosovo flag, due to the disputed nature of this territory. Individual POV pushing by Kedadi is not welcome on Wikipedia and I urge that user to either bring a more constructive approach or find a forum where it's more appropriate to discuss such matters. --Cinéma C 19:25, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag