Talk:Dub, King of Scotland

message: Seems like the picture of the male in the suit bears little to no relevance, if it's even the correct picture to begin with. Anyone want to look into this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.3.27.250 (talk) 16:36, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture

message: Is Dubh an alternative spelling? If so, it should be included.  Duff is a common Anglicisation and should be included.  He is sometimes confronted as "Duff the Black" and the nature of the nickname "the Black" (a translation of Dub) should be included.  I'd add it, but I am afraid to touch the issue of Anglicisations on Scotland-related pages. Srnec 04:00, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Dubh is the modern Scots Gaelic version. Duff is a rather antiquated anglicisation. Cináed -> Kenneth and Máel Coluim -> Malcolm are current, I'm not sure that Dub -> Duff is. It's only likely to be found in old books (so, yes, it's on the the internet). So those can be added. But even A.D.M. Barrell's Medieval Scotland, a ruthlessly anglicising modern introductory history, uses Dub. The Latin chronicles use Niger, the Annals of Ulster call him Dub m. Mael Coluim. My thought is that he was probably not called Dub(h). The Duan Albanach uses Dubhoda dén or Dub(h)od the vehement (translated as impetuous elsewhere in the same document). An Irish king of the same period, Ruaidrí ua Canannáin, whose name is derived from ruaid, red, is in fact called just ruaid in some sources. R. Andrew McDonald's History, Literature, and Music in Scotland, 700-1560 touches on this, but doesn't actually offer an opinion. There may be something in Hudson's Kings of Celtic Scotland or his Prophecy of Berchán. Angus McLellan  (Talk) 09:31, 14 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Variant names

message: Neither of the eclipses mentioned were total from Scotland, though it seems more likely that the 966 one was visible, astronomical help would be useful. Rich Farmbrough, 21:05, 29 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Eclipse

message: The text says: 
"Dub left at least one son, Kenneth III (Cináed mac Dub). Although his descendants did not compete successfully for the kingship of Alba after Cináed was killed in 1005, they did hold the mormaerdom of Fife. The MacDuib (or MacDuff) held the mormaerdom, and later earldom, until 1371."
This is nonsense. Who dreamed this up? Freuchie (talk) 12:50, 27 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fife 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: not moved. No prejudice against a broader discussion to discuss renaming all Scottish monarchs from before a certain cutoff point. I will create the proposed title as a redirect.  Jenks24 (talk) 11:35, 11 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Dub, King of Scotland →  – It wasn't called Scotland yet, and we're saying ourselves he was king of Alba, and the sources generally seem to prefer this.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  15:47, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 27 September 2023