Talk:Vanessa Marquez

message: Most of the basic biographical info in this article is straight out of IMDb, which is not a reliable source for biographical info.
At the moment, the four sources are essentially the same news story (covering the shooting). Ignoring that info and the IMDb-sourced info, this article is a list of roles.
While this story is still in the mills, I'm going to leave this alone. After a few days, I'll see if we have sources for the info. If not, I'll take it out and see if I can find anything. - SummerPhDv2.0 18:13, 1 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced info 

message: Currently the article states death by police shooting. An IP has been trying to change this to suicide by cop but it's unreferenced. If a reliable source can be identified, I will change it to suicide - I'll poke for references now. Ifnord (talk) 19:05, 3 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cause of death 

message: "In March 2020, the South Pasadena Police released bodycam footage from the incident, where Marquez pleaded to the officers to leave her"
After everything that has been discussed here about the shooting, and how she obviously intentionally forced the police to shoot her, why is the only quote that directly refers to the video tailored to make it sound like she was an innocent victim who "pleaded with the officers to leave" before they gunned her down, implying (apparently) that if the officers had just complied with her wishes, she wouldn't be dead. That isn't backed up by the footage they released at all. Not sure if it's the family trying to alter public opinion to help their lawsuit, but it's not fair. The officers showed up because they had a report that she needed someone to intervene for her safety. They came in and immediately summoned medical professionals to check her out. At this point the officer's duty is to look after her health. The medical personnel recommended she be placed into medical custody for evaluation, and the police acted on their advice and signed an official medical detention form to place her into medical custody, because they had good reason to believe she was a risk to herself (if not others as well). The police were within their rights, and acting as they thought was best for her safety. She certainly appeared to need closer medical supervision at the time. Whether she asked them to leave or not is hardly relevant. A medical detention is still a detention, and it is not optional. What were they supposed to so, leave and summon medical professionals instead? It was the medical professionals who recommended they detain her, and it was the police who had the authority to do so.
64.222.152.115 (talk) 23:26, 12 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the point of this quote? 

message: I originally posted about this on the external links noticeboard, but I think a full-fledged RfC might be the best way to bring in outside perspectives. Basically, I want to discuss whether the police bodycam footage of her fatal shooting merits inclusion in the article itself. The link to the YouTube video was originally added in March 2020; the video itself was later uploaded and added to the article in May of this year. It is narrated, with a viewer discretion warning at the start, and the shots of her incapacitated body and the officer who fired the weapon are both blurred, so it's not as if no effort was made to depict what transpired in a respectful light; nevertheless, it still feels like something that should be approved by community consensus first. Kurtis (talk) 19:03, 7 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for Comment: Inclusion of police bodycam footage