Talk:Black Mafia Family

message: Wow...I stop editing this article for a while and come back to it being butchered. I fought for YEARS of vandalism and constant edits of cited, reliably sourced content on this particular article. I wrote 85% of the article. I am done with it. It is so ridiculous some of the stuff I see removed, but I am done fighting for it. It's just not worth it to me anymore. I even see someone removed the image of the Buckhead stash house, claiming some guy on Flickr owns it. That is complete BS. I took the picture myself in Buckhead, Atlanta, GA back in 2008 while visiting to research this case.. Have a super life, Wikipedians. I just don't have the energy or time to keep fighting for this article. It's a shame. jlcoving (talk) 01:39, 28 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes

message: A friend of mine wa stelling me about this 'group' and it seems to be a legitimate representation of the BMF and the legal situation so I removed the Need Sources Tag after adding amw.com link to the bottom. --Mikerussell 04:58, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tag removed 

message: The section about the 2005 arrests is written very poorly and has no sources. Some of the sentences lack verbs. Should probably just delete it... Ernasty10050 04:36, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2005 raid and arrests 

message: Does anyone know if any of the people that are supposed to be waiting for a trial or a sentence have received these?  Same goes for the amount of time that many will be in prison for.  Will mention having "x years" left but am unsure when this starts from. Cleanelephant (talk) 06:38, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Prison sentence updates

message: I would like to merge the article entitled Demetrius and Terry Flenory into this article because it has no new information that is not mentioned here. MDEVER802 (talk) 20:49, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: *Makes sense. Niteshift36 (talk) 21:16, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal 

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message: I have been watching this page for the last 2yrs. This is due to a young man named Joshua Sims. He really tried to make it seem as if he was a part of the BMF family. I guess this is his hustle for getting woman to become interested in him. I am a really smart and very computer savvy person. The current state of technology allows every access to fact finding truths. His story and involvement with BMF is completely FALSE! He was never mention in the BMF Documentry on Netflix. This idiot stated key searching points like his name and a arrest on I-95 in Jacksonville,Fl (all public record) yet nothing was found except a few minor charges via COJ.Net and after a simple Facebook search I found out where and what year he was born (1989), which means that during the time frame of 2004 in which he is inserting his name. He would of been only 15yrs old. As a juvenile there is no way he would had been indicted along with the other members nor is his name listed in the public record of the indictment. He has also listed his name as one of the "Hit-men" for two major cases that brought the BMF crew down. Even though these cases where highly publicized in numerous news sources around the U.S. and Atlanta metro area in which Wiki also has a valid cited mark to find the original article. His changes are filled with grammar and punctuation errors as if they were typed by a child.... see original post here...  http://www.liquisearch.com/black_mafia_family/operation_motor_city_mafia/allegations_of_violence
Wiki Original: September 2004: Ulysses Hackett and girlfriend Misty Carter were executed in their Highland Avenue apartment in Atlanta. Police say the murders were ordered by Tremayne "Kiki" Graham, then son-in-law of Atlanta Mayor Shirley Franklin and alleged associate of BMF. They claimed Ulysses was thinking of testifying against BMF and Graham, growing suspicious, ordered their murder.
Sims Errors: September 2004: Ulysses Hackett and girlfriend Misty Carter were executed in her Highland Avenue apartment in Atlanta. Police say the murders were ordered by Joshua sims, the grandson of new york mob alleged associate of BMF. They claimed Ulysses was thinking of testifying against BMF and mr sims growing suspicious, ordered their murder.
On April 11, 2004, BMF courier and high-level distributor Joshua sima was pulled over in Jacksonville along I-95 driving a black Range Rover, supposedly for swerving over the fog line. Two suitcases containing approximately 95 kilograms of cocaine and 572 grams of marijuana were found in the back of the Range Rover after a K-9 unit was alerted to drugs in the vehicle.
Testimony given during various trials say the organization operated as follows: Joshua Sims the grandson of New York mob organization operated five stash houses in the Atlanta area, nicknamed "The Gate", "The Horse Ranch", "Space Mountain", "Bugsy Siegel", and "The Elevator". Approximately every 10 days, vehicles would arrive with 100–150 kilograms of cocaine packed in secret compartments.
July 25, 2004: At a midtown Atlanta club called the Velvet Room, a man named Rashannibal "Prince" Drummond was killed. The incident began after alleged 3rd-in-command of BMF, Joshua sims nearly backed into Drummond in his Porsche Cayenne Turbo. After Drummond hit the car to alert the driver, the passengers of the car got out and began beating Drummond and his friends. During the fight, a friend of Drummond's fired a warning shot to scare everyone off; joshua sims allegedly retrieved his gun, returned fire, then walked over to Drummond and executed him on the ground.
Demetrius and Terry Flenory an Joshua sims were charged under the Continuing Criminal Enterprise Statute, conspiracy to distribute 5 kilograms or more of cocaine, possession with intent to distribute more than 500 grams of cocaine, conspiracy to launder monetary instruments, and two counts of possession with intent to distribute more than 5 kilograms of cocaine. Demetrius was captured in a large home in a suburb outside Dallas. Inside, police found a small amount of marijuana and a few MDMA pills. In a safe inside the house were several weapons, as well as multiple vehicles at the home.
On June 15, 2006, the U.S. Department of Treasury reported that 16 additional individuals had been charged with conspiracy to distribute cocaine and money laundering charges under a second, superseding indictment, bringing the number of people charged in the case to 49. The list of accused included Jacob Arabov, popularly known as Jacob the Jeweler, a well-known celebrity jeweler in the hip-hop community. Arabov and Joshua sims were charged with conspiracy to launder more than $270 million in illegally obtained funds.
All of these conflicts can be found via a simple google search. I hope others that Josh Sims gives this lame story to, have the common sense to look at the talk page before believing his fantasy.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:C4F1:CF40:45DD:D4DF:9E82:CDAA (talk) 20:33, 6 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joshua Sims not a part of BMF 

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message: wants to change the article to say that the territory of this group is "nationwide", based on page 3 an FBI report here. I believe they are misreading the report. Page 2 of the report has a section titled "Copies Made" with a list that begins
  4-Philadelphia 
    (3 - 92-2735)
    (1 - 157-4700)
    (Copies - Cover page A1)
This page is followed by page 3 which is titled "A1" and contains a further list of 33 cities, formatted similarly:
  1-Atlanta
  1-Baltimore
  1-Boston
   etc.
It is clear to me that this list on page 3 is continuation of the "Copies Made" list on page 2, and not a list of places where the group operates. CodeTalker (talk) 18:34, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Nationwide"