Talk:Galactic Empire (Star Wars)

message: I have written a number of articles about the Empire, the Palpatinist system, and the Empire's collapse in the Analysis section of my website at Domus Publica, and I think the Wikipedia article would be well-served by a link to my own articles at that site. However, as I am the author of that site and am therefore not impartial, I wish to know if any other interested author agrees and would consent to linking to my site. The decision is not mine; I merely suggest it and await the response of interested parties. Publius 05:29, 5 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question 

message: Someone made an article Ghormian Massacre that had been a redlink from here.  I don't know anything about it, but the article was pretty bad (see here).  I didn't wanna bother deleting the article, so I redirected it here.  I tried googling on this but the only result was this article.  Does anyone know more about this?  Is it even canonical or is someone trying to slip in fan fiction?  The lack of google results concerns me.  Friday (talk) 04:49, 12 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ghormian massacre? 

message: Who would of suceeded Palpitine to the Imperial Throne? I would assume Darth Vader, but Moff Tarikin seems a likely Candidate. Plus, Palpitine could have a Brother or some other blood realitive. Maybe somebody we don't know about, say in the books?(I have only seen the movies) The Republican 00:22, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It was later revealed in the comic series that the Emperor had absolutely no intention of dying, and the strength in the Dark Side of the Force to ensure he wouldn't; thus, a moot point.  When he died, Sate Pestage, the Grand Vizier, took over the Empire, though had he died of 'natural causes' and left a successor, my unprofessional, unqualified opinion is that Pestage would probably not have been the most likely candidate.  Hope that helps.  David Corbett 06:23, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Palpatine did have a few relatives- the only one to get close to the throne was assassinated by Noghri however (see the Dark Empire Sourcebook). Given his nature and actions during the Imperial Mutiny, my guess is he wanted whoever won the civil wars to succeed him. --maru  (talk) contribs 20:19, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sucessor?

message: I changed the caption of the Executor to Star Destroyer, rather than Star Dreadnaught. I know that it is technically a dreadnaught. However, for clarity and consistency, I fell that Destroyer is more prudent. ddcrandall
Actually, if it isn't refered to as a Star Dreadnought it is referred to as a super star destroyer.-GangstaEB 12:33, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Star Dreadnaught / Star Destroyer 

message: The Star Wars empire sounds like to me it is based on Hitler's Germany. --GangstaEB & friends
:Well... Yeah. That's pretty obvious. --maru   (talk)  contribs 19:07, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think, there are more similarities with Hitler Germany than w/ the roman empire: the romans didn't have genocide and there was much less racism than in Hitler's empire or the SW-empire. But also some things seem to be taken from the roman empire, i.E. the name of the imperial senate, although it had far less power than the roman senate had even when Rome was ruled by emperors. So the senate's power can be compared to the power of the German Reichstag. So I think, it's based on both. --MrBurns (talk) 06:32, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hitler's Empire 

message: I've begun the much-needed clean-up of this article, to bring it round to an out-of-universe viewpoint. The introduction is improved but could do with further work. I hope other people will take my lead and go through the rest of the article. Polocrunch 16:25, 19 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction 

message: I tried to improve the poorly written section on xenophobia. I'm not an expert on the Star Wars universe or critical review, so I made a few changes to improve readability. Impartiality could be dramatically improved and references should be added. --Rosenbluh 09:06, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, unfortunatly, there aren't many citations at all. This could be a wonderful article if there were more! I would do them, but I'm not a Star Wars expert [Although a big fan] and would be afraid of getting it wrong. Good luck to any editor who tries! Scarian 15:16, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  xenophobia 

message: The Galactic Empire contains nearly the whole galaxy. Acording to this map the known parts of the galaxy have a population of 10^17 sapient inhabitants. Because only a very small fraction of them were not in the empire, I think a population of 10°17 by the year 0 ABY should be added in the table. Alternatively the year 4 ABY can be used (this was the year of the Battle of Endor), but I think, this doesn't make a difference in the population. But one problem ist, that vthe population cannot be added in the table, which is used now (Template:Infobox StarWarsOrganizations). --MrBurns (talk) 06:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population 

message: Does anyone see a resemblance between this empire's rise and the Roman Empire's rise? I'll grant that there are noticeable differences, but... 173.67.14.94 (talk) 20:07, 12 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roman Empire resemblance? 

message: I've twice removed this content as uncited WP:OR. Per WP:BRD, I invite the contributing editor to articulate his/her rationale for making this content addition. --EEMIV (talk) 15:55, 2 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:OR]] 

message: While writing whole paragraphs on remote resemblances between the Galactic Empire and German uniforms etc. it is interesting how nobody mentions the obvious resemblance with the British Empire:
-	Pax Britannica = "I have brought peace, freedom, justice and security to my new empire" Anakin Skywalker
-	The whole context of the American Revolution, Empire vs rebels, Valley Forge = Battle of Hoth etc.
-	Imperial navy = British navy
-	Social Darwinism was invented and used to legitimize British imperialism
-	Phantom Menace is about trade wars and plotting which leads to rise of the Empire, see British East India Company trade war against India and Jamaica (Jar Jar Binks = Caribbean savage)
-	Core world against Outer Rim = UK vs US colony
-	All imperial actors have strong British accents, most (if not all) rebels have American accents (Obi-Wan being a notable exception)
-	Etc…
Also any reflecting Star Wars fan should immediately realize the resemblance with the American Empire. There is only one sentence in the article that could be expanded to refer to the recent “War on Terror”, the Vietnam War (someone referred to Ewoks as the Vietnamese people fighting against an evil Empire without having advanced technology) and most certainly the war on Iraq. The Patriot Act, the Big government takeover, emergency laws, the manipulation of the people to go to war on false pretexts and so much more!
By the way, Stormtroopers were German specialized infantry in WW1 and had nothing to do with the Sturmstaffel (SS).
:Well, technically, Darth Vader and Motti had American accents (and it's unclear whether the Stormtroopers had accents, let alone British accents, since they just sounded robotic overall), but yes, most did have British accents. I'm not sure about whether the Trade Federation thing in The Phantom Menace really qualifies as a comparison as Lucas made it pretty clear he intended for them to be based on the Republicans who engaged in the 1994 sweep of congress.
:Also, here's another bit you might have missed. We know all about the Ewoks being based on the Vietcong, but did you know the Rebel Alliance was in fact based on them as well? Lucas made that very clear in The Making of Star Wars, with his draft notes from 1973, which you can read here. And if that's not enough, Lucas made that explicit in the AMC series "James Cameron's Story of Sci-Fi.", in April of this year. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 21:03, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  British Empire and American Empire 

message: I replaced the DomusPublica.net link with an archive snapshot taken 2005-09-27.  This index page archive may or may not reproduce all the essays - I don't know if the web archive does full breadth-first-search archiving of all linked pages, or just some of them, or what.  Have the essays been maintained somewhere else that Google can't find?  I did a search for two of the titles, and Google didn't turn up anything except links to the extinct DomusPublica.net site. ("Rattling the Saber: Sectors, Oversectors, and the Strategic Forces of the Galactic Empire" and "Leviathan: Civil Life, the Rebellion, and the Apotheosis of Palpatine") Jimw338 (talk) 07:03, 10 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  DomusPublica.net - new site somewhere? 

message: Hi.
Adding this in because of the recent... issue regarding whether the Empire is totalitarian or authoritarian.
One of the biggest problems with it being totalitarian is the fact that they, at least in Legends, literally managed to not only allow the Corporate Sector Authority free reign over its territories and expanded its territories, but it actually did so with the explicit intent of allowing for transparent mercantilism (in other words, free markets) if we go by the Imperial Handbook (which is officially sanctioned by Lucasfilm) on page 9, and then there's the whole business of the Empire allowing for Immunity spheres, which effectively bar the Empire from setting foot inside of a territory, to exist. That simply does not work under a totalitarian regime of even Nazi Germany/Fascist Italy's nature, let alone something like, say, the USSR. A real totalitarian regime wouldn't even tolerate something like the CSA existing, or immunity spheres for that matter. Think along the lines of how Stalin had people executed for failing to deliver a personal recording of Mozart on time.
That brings me to my next point: Contrary to popular belief, the Nazis did NOT possess an actual mixed economy, certainly not free markets. It did give the illusion of free markets, yes, but what they had was a far more subtle form of control where they installed party operatives to take charge of the factories rather than being directly owned by the Nazis unlike with the Soviets. You can read about it all here and here, along with similar stuff (and bear in mind, Ludwig von Mises grew up during that time and had first-hand experience to this, so he knows full well what he's talking about). In other words, not even the Nazis would have dared allow for actual free markets, as Ludwig von Mises and even Albert Speer specifically stated, while the Empire clearly did allow for it in regards to the Corporate Sector Authority, by their own admission, in the Imperial Handbook, and even the Han Solo and the Corporate Sector sourcebook for that matter. So, really, the Empire, at most, is authoritarian.
On a side note, the Empire is NOT based on Nazi Germany, not primarily, anyways. It was actually based, per George Lucas and his close associates' own admission, on America during the Vietnam War. He DID model the uniforms after the Nazis to some degree, sure, but that's mostly because his generation tended to conflate conservatives with Nazis even when the Nazis if anything fell on the far left (same deal with the Nazi apparel in that Starship Troopers film made by Paul Verhoeven). On a side note, you guys ARE aware that George Lucas advocated for using government to tax the rich like the Nazis did, right? I definitely doubt he would have envisioned the Empire doing that since he envisioned them as the bad guys. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 20:57, 2 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Totalitarian/Authoritarian debate