Talk:The Birds (play)

message: What is the most widely used translation of Peisetairos' name? I see at least two in the article.
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The Birds is a comedy by Aristophanes. It tells the story of two men fed up with life in wartime Athens who set off in search of the ideal city. They make their way to the sky, where they persuade the birds to found a realm occupying the strategic position between heaven and earth. The new city of Cloudcuckooland, like all would-be utopias, quickly collapses from egalitarian state to dicatorship as the human ruler of the bird-city acquires a fancy for tyrrany and hubris, leading his state into ruin.
:I think I've added the stuff I didn't already mention...I didn't know there already was a page, as it didn't show up in a search (either on Wikipedia itself or on a site search on Google). I searched for it last week sometime when I was adding to the Aristophanes page, and yesterday when I wrote this one. That's weird...oh well. Adam Bishop 17:39, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah...I see now. That is even stranger :) Adam Bishop 20:40, 25 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Correct name of protagonist? 

message: There is a blue link to the name of a translator, Ian Johnston. This link takes you to the article of a famous australian doctor, who is also named Ian Johnston. I don't think that that Ian Johnston is the translater of the play. The Ian Johnston with the article died in 2001 and this translation comes from 2003.--Fantastic fred 01:31, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ian Johnston 

message: The synopsis of the play claims that Euelpides and Pistetairos meet a descendant of Tereus.  I have read multiple translations of the play and in each this character is Tereus himself, not a descendant.  I have not changed the article as I don't want to step on anyone's toes and am wondering on what this claim is based?  Is it in a particular translation? Do the translations I have read miss or omit something from the Greek (I do not know Greek)?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.81.50.169 (talk) 19:50, 2 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Descendant of Tereus? 

message: Can't be a hummingbird, as these only became known post-1492 AD. Maybe a kinglet. Dysmorodrepanis (talk) 16:01, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Trochilus

message: I have restored the nav box (linking to Aristophanes' plays) to the top of the article because it allows for easy cross-referencing between plays and because it is a useful reminder that each play is best understood in the context of all the plays. Lucretius (talk) 00:18, 11 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nav. box 

message: I just removed a tag, according to which the play's summary is too long, and which invited contributors to reduce the summary. I removed the tag because it demonstrates a failure to understand the issues involved:
1) There are already 2 summaries - a short summary (1 paragraph) and a detailed summary (5 paragraphs plus 4 lines of anapestic tetrameter catalectic); reducing the detailed summary on the grounds that it is too detailed is quite absurd. We might as well get rid of the short summary and write just one summary, which denies the reader a choice. The detailed summary is in fact quite short already and it skips over many parts of the plot.
2) This is an article about a play by the ancient Greek dramatist, Aristophanes, which ofter bares little or no resemblance to modern versions of it; a detailed summary allows the reader to note points of difference.
3) The Birds is Aristophanes' longest play (about 25% longer than his other plays), yet the detailed summary here is not much bigger than the other summaries for his plays. You might as well tag all of them.
 
Whether or not the detailed summary can be better written is of course a different matter. P.S. I wrote the existing summaries under my previous username Lucretius. Amphitryoniades (talk) 01:39, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removing tag 

message: Manhattanville college 47.17.123.220 (talk) 03:14, 24 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  2023 modern adaption