Talk:Fridtjof Nansen-class frigate

message: June 7, 2007: The second of five Norwegian Nansen class frigates, the Roald Amundsen, has completed its sea trials and entered service. The 5,200 ton Nansen class ships are being built in Spain and cost $600 million each. The 433 foot long Nansens have a top speed of 48 kilometers an hour. Weapons include eight NSM anti-ship missiles, 32 Evolved Sea Sparrow Missile anti-aircraft missiles (in an eight cell launcher), one 76mm gun, four 12.7mm machine-guns, four torpedo tubes, depth charges and one helicopter. The highly automated ships have radar, sonar, electronic countermeasures and a crew of 130. These ships are equipped with American Aegis radar systems, and their design is based on the he Spanish Alvaro de Bazán class Aegis ships. The U.S. guards it Aegis radar technology closely, and only five navies have ships using this AESA type radar and its powerful software.
The last three of the Nansens will enter service in three years. There have been some complaints about poor quality control in the Spanish shipyards. Then again, the Spanish yards were the low bidder, and the Norwegian and German yards that lost out, have not forgotten, nor have their supporters in Norway. Meanwhile, the Norwegians like the idea of having such a powerful anti-aircraft ship to deal with any mischief the Russians might be up to in the future.
http://www.strategypage.com/htmw/htsurf/articles/20070607.aspx
A few weeks ago a Norwegian newspaper (Bergens Tidende), in a series about the new frigates, made a request to Lockheed Martin about missile defense capabilites (ballistic missiles), and the answer from Kenneth B. Ross, LM, was that they only needed a software upgrade to be able to perform missile defence, and that they can share target information with US Aegis vessels, and launche missiles based on target data from another Aegis vessel (obviously, the frigates will also need more VLS cells and longer range SAMs, but LM was referring to the radar). Norwegian armed forces has requested a report about this from the Norwegian Defence Research Establishment, but this report is classified. Bjørn Egenberg, the frigate chief in the RNoN, confirms that the frigates will be well suited to take part in such a mission. Here is the article, but it is in Norwegian BT.no. Same story from the largest newspaper in Norway VG
::Incidentally, I am an engineer working in Navantia. We haven´t noticed here the complains about the "poor quality controls in our shipyards". Are we facing another attempt to debase our prestige from our loved anglo-saxon competitors and judges? Of course. This is not the first time, and unfortunately it won´t be the last one. They will never fotget that we built and exported a VSTOL carrier (Príncipe de Asturias class) that overtakes in everything the Invincible class. Sorry mates, but the experts are the ones who decide.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.122.166.17 (talk) 19:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Norway Loves Aegis

message: According to this link another radar will support helicopter operations, can detect air and surface targets according to link.  And a new extreme short range mode demonstrated according to this link 
:: Link describing the new radar here, I have added the radar in the article.
The torpedo decoy is Loki, as seen here—Preceding unsigned comment added by Orcaborealis (talk • contribs) 00:39, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional radar for the frigates, new extreme short range mode demonstrated, Loki torpedo decoy 

message: Anyone know the correct amount of spare Mk41's the ship can be fitted with? I read here that it is prepared for just 1 extra, but a previous edit of the wikipedia article stated 3 spares. VaiNe (talk) 17:21, 28 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spare Mk41 VLSs 

message: Otto Sverdrup has been taken over by the Norwegian naval forces, however it has not yet entered service. It is currently undergoing tests and preparations. ZorroIII (talk) 19:21, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Commissioned 

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message: Something strikingly bad about this article about the frigates.
There are many sentences about what "will be" about these five ships, and when they "will be" commissioned, etc. 
As I write this, it is now mid-December 2016, and two of these frigates were commissioned over 10 years ago. 
Furthermore, all five of them are now fully commissioned and in service. Someone from Norway needs to expend the effort to update this article to recent years, including improvements and upgrades that have already been executed years ago. 
Furthermore, very little is said about the missile armament of these frigates. These are AEGIS ships, but apparently they do not have something that is crucial to that system, the RIM-66 Standard SM-2MR, which arms the AEGIS ships of the United States, Japan, South Korea, Australia, and so forth. Some paragraphs of explanation are needed.08:48, 19 December 2016 (UTC)
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