Wikipedia talk:WikiProject UK Railways/TRAIL

message: Initial thoughts.  Need to add:
*Symbol use
*Level of detail
* ...
Comments, improvements and general butchery welcomed.  Chris cheese whine 18:54, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Those sound good for a start.  Any thoughts on the inclusion or otherwise of maintenance facilities?  Chris cheese whine 20:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maintenance facilities I'd guess would use the freight depot symbol for lack of a better symbol, unless we can manage to create new ones, but it makes sense to include them separately, unless they're directly at a station, where it may be more beneficial to make a note alongside the station icon. --Simmo676 19:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Based on experience to date I think my recent modification to the northern end of WCML is rather cluttered. From the sample page I have added the the colour field (example colour only!!) and removed the colspn field (as it is not necessary) and the code leer as I do not see what is adding. --Stewart 20:45, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: leer = "empty".  In the original, it was required with multiple columns to specify a blank space, however the templates have since been modified to make leer the default when no value is supplied.  Chris cheese whine 20:56, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I note there is an extensive directory of symbols which can be found at Wikimedia Commons. --Stewart 21:49, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The directory at the commons give more scope for complex arrangements such as tunnels (thus possibility of using this for tube lines) and s-bahns (eg Tyne and Wear metro, esp cross over with Durham Coast line) Pickle 13:51, 15 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I broadly agree with the styles listed, however I find that - if a lot of non-stations are listed - it is dificult to see which ones are actually open. I have been careful to make sure that junctions, tunnels, etc. are in the first notes field, and bold the names of open stations in the name field, e.g. Riviera Line. Geof Sheppard 13:50, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Initial thoughts

message: Can editors please note that you don't have to use the BHF/BF icon for all stations, as i understand it they are only for big stations (eg London termini, etc), all other stations should probably be using HST icon. Pickle 14:11, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: On the Tees Valley Line and others done, I took the figure of 300,000 people using a station (in the 2004/05 statistics) as the lower limit to be a BHF, and any smaller to be HST's. This figure mightn't be great for other lines, so a sort of relative "importance" to other stations on the line might be a way to go? --Simmo676 19:30, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How about stations served by more than one TOC (or more than one distinct service of a TOC) being a BHF, and other stations HST. Stations that have more than two platforms in use should probably also be BHF. Dannyboy3 20:09, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: On the West of England branch lines, I used HST for request stops and stations with a limited service, better served stations being BHF. Geof Sheppard 13:41, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stations 

message: We could include coordinates (and thus microformats) - see coordinates in railway line templates; and mileages - see  Andy Mabbett 00:21, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Coordinates and distances