Talk:Ancient trackway

message: I'm very happy that this new article is being 'cleaned up', altered and added to, but without wishing to cause offence, I'm removing the 'in England' clause that's been added:
* I'm sure modern roads follow ancient trackways in other parts of Europe, Asia, Africa, N & S America, and this must surely even include the USA?
* I assume that by 'England', the writer meant 'the UK' (England, Scotland, Wales etc)
* I'm writing this from where I live, on the side of an ancient ridgeway, in the island of Jersey (UK but definitely not England)
--Nigelj 22:11, 28 Aug 2004 (UTC)

message: Why is this article still so Britain-centric?  I can't believe that there were no neolithic or mesolithic migration routes, ridgeways or other trackways in any of the rest of the world???  C'mon guys, open things up a little... --Nigelj 07:34, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Britain only??? 

message: ... but the article specifically says that this is a term used in Britain to describe what it then goes on to talk about. OK - so it needs expanding: here are one or two references to get things going, but the whole article then needs delineating: and then perhaps there should be separate articles referring to each part of the world cross-referred from it.
*Mesopotania: 5000 years old
*Japan
*Mexico
and see
*Road which refers to ancient roads
*:Category:Silk Road
Soory didn't sign it! Peter Shearan 15:02, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Of course not Britain only

message: I just restored this article to the state in was in as of December 2010. Recent edits by Highking have resulted in the loss of a significant amount of material, including photographs, and these edits are unexplained. The Roman Candle (talk) 07:32, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I see that you also deleted several refs and citations in the process. Agreed, you re-inserted the 'uncited' banner, but can't we try to find some citations for what is there? --Nigelj (talk) 09:56, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, of course. I just reverted as an interim measure to restore lost material. Some citations are needed, and an expansion to cover other areas. I'll look at it when I've more time - bit pushed at the moment. The Roman Candle (talk) 11:05, 20 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Having just restored material that may have been inadvertently deleted, I find myself wondering about the whole section "The beginnings". I don't see how it relates to the subject, other than in a very tangential way. Should this section be deleted in its entirety (I did move one relevant sentence out of it)? The Roman Candle (talk) 21:24, 21 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I again reverted Highking as a result of no explanation apart from the edit summary being given for the removal of material. Should the first two sections, "The beginnings" and "The trackways" be merged into a single section? The one seems to follow straight on from the other. The Roman Candle (talk) 12:48, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems we were caught in an edit conflict - I reverted and then started adding material.  Apologies for doing this, I had spent considerable time putting this article together.  I've overhauled the article so that it doesn't look like it should be renamed "Ancient trackways of Britain", and added information about many other trackways from around the world.  I've readded the material that existed about the British trackways, but I believe the article is still too weighted in that direction.  --HighKing (talk) 13:23, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes, excellent work if I might say so. I was a bit quick off the mark with my reverting there. Sorry about that. The Roman Candle (talk) 20:00, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you.  There's a number of other notable trackways I'll add in time that I know about, not all "human".  --HighKing (talk) 21:24, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Loss of Material 

message: Trackway, Ancient trackway and Ichnite - see Talk:Trackway. cheers Geopersona (talk) 05:24, 12 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overlap with other articles 

message: ::I have copied all the discussion of fossil tracks to the article Fossil trackway. Unless there is disagreement I will shortly revise this article so that it focuses solely on trails. I hope that this is the correct way to proceed–please advise if this violates any rule.
:::I agree Rwood128 that the elements of this article that refer to fossil footprints, tracks and trails can (and to my mind, should) be merged with Fossil trackway. They are distinct from other types of tracks and trackways. It will clarify both articles if you proceed with the merge. I'm glad you are working on this area, and hope to pull out some of my books on the subject, and look through other research materials - maybe I can provide some help in regards to citations. Just so you know, I may be a bit slow in getting to this, but it is on my to-do list. Netherzone (talk) 23:11, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Netherzone many thanks for your helpful comments. I will wait a couple of more days, for any further comments, before making any revisions. Rwood128 (talk) 11:53, 7 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I had also suggested on Timber trackway that, that article should be merged with this article. Rwood128 (talk) 12:14, 10 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless there are objections I will delete all material relating to Fossil trackways from this article and revise the lede. Rwood128 (talk) 12:20, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I do not object, Rwood128, thank you for the work you are doing on these articles. Netherzone (talk) 18:02, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Partial merge

message: Where is the bridge, <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_trackway#Crossroads_at_bridges>?
:I will look through my library to try to find the location of the former bridge at Cadbury Castle. Do you think this is an acceptable image for the Brownhills trackway? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Watling_Street_Richborough.jpg Netherzone (talk) 19:28, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The image is fine, but Richborough is a long way from Brownhills and some scholars, apparently, don't see the Watling Street going to the Midlands. I can find nothing about Brownhills being at a crossroad of other tracks. I also wonder about Wallingford–what are the other tracks that are supposed to meet there? Rwood128 (talk) 20:39, 13 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cadbury Castle 

message: I wonder if the other trackways can be named? But we should look for citations to support the claim. Rwood128 (talk) 11:44, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Crossroads at bridges

message: There is a parallel article called Historic roads. The lead reads: "Historic roads are existing or once existent travel routes of historic significance. They typically cover great distances." This article includes most of the world. Should they be merged? Rwood128 (talk) 15:31, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: The above leads to the question of what is meant by ancient, and what should be included here–and indeed in Historic roads? Also, should a full section on paved Roman roads be included in this article? Currently the article includes trackways up until the nineteenth century, as well as an image of a sixteenth century German timber trackway. Rwood128 (talk) 16:05, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historic roads 

message: The later trackway does not count for this page (too recent) though the former is within range. Neither however is prehistoric, as Germany definitely had written history before 4th Century AD/CE. Not sure if it's worth fixing for now if this might be merged but something to consider in future if we decide not to. Hedge89 (talk) 15:25, 24 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Wittmoor Bog Trackways