Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Final Fantasy/archive2

message: Most of the game-specific templates (ex. Template:FFVI, Template:FFX) have remained exclusive to links for player characters.  I changed Template:FFIV to link to other articles related to the game.  Since Final Fantasy IV is one of the less popular games of the series, there are few articles that pertain to it, which explains the lacking of content (once the Final Fantasy airships article, and others like it, are expanded with FFIV information, they may also be linked to).  However, I think if templates for other games are changed around a bit like this one, they can be extremely useful.  For instance, Template:FFVII can link to articles such as Sephiroth (Final Fantasy VII), Shin-Ra, and Turks (Final Fantasy VII) - articles that currently have no place in the template, making navigation much easier.  What does everyone think? --Warpedmirror 9 July 2005 05:10 (UTC)
:Including Zemus in the FFIV template is a bit of a problem, because it's a spoiler. You're not supposed to know he exists until very late in the game. --Dalkaen July 9, 2005 06:17 (UTC)
I have concerns on this - There are a lot of Final Fantasy VII articles and there's soon to be a lot more. This is going to create a stupidly huge box at the bottom or every FF7 page. This is not a fan-website too, and I worry that the more of these boxes we put in, the more we're trying to convince ourselves it is. I like them, they look nice, and when it just included the characters it was nice. But adding more maybe a bit extreme. I was proposing that we make a Final Fantasy index/directory which lists all Final Fantasy related articles. This will be one page. What do people think? — Cuahl 9 July 2005 13:06 (UTC)
*Alright, I got rid of all non-PC related stuff.  If everyone agrees that these should just pertain to PC's then I think title of each othese templates should just be [Insert game title here] Player characters and we should remove the Player characters: deal, since there will be no more sections in that template.  I was thinking of creating a "Non-player characters of Final Fantasy IV page"  - including all the major non-player characters of the game, that don't exactly have enough bulk to deserve their own article.  This idea can be used for many games, if everyone likes it.  Since the Zemus page was brought up in this discussion, I have a question to ask about it.  Someone (not part of this project I believe) proposed that it should be merged with the Final Fantasy IV page (or with the FFIV NPC page if it is created), because Zemus is such a minor character (though he did clarify that Sephiroth was important enough).  I think being a final boss in a video game qualifies as being a fairly major character.  I think Zemus is just as important to FFIV as Sephiroth is to FFVII, except Sephiroth has fanboys.  Does anyone else think that Zemus is too minor to have his own page?  I have no problem with that, but if that is the case, Chaos (Final Fantasy), Ultimecia, and other FF bosses should be merged with their appropriate articles.  By the way, I think your idea of the list of all the FF articles is a must. --Warpedmirror 9 July 2005 15:46 (UTC)
**Cool. We could make /index into a page like List Final Fantasy articles or Final Fantasy articles (by title) or A-Z of Final Fantasy. Suggestions? — Cuahl 9 July 2005 16:10 (UTC)
***I think List of Final Fantasy articles sounds like your best bet. — Warpedmirror 22:53, 9 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Expanding game-specific templates

message: I was looking at the articles that list places in Spira, and I believe that the majority of the articles outside of the planet itself should be merged with the spira article. I have put the merge template in a few of them, but like List of Final Fantasy VI locations, I believe that these places should be encompassed under 1 large article unless they have enough information to be in an article on their own.  From what i see, most of them do not have enough information to be on their own. --ZeWrestler 16:37, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: List of Locations on [[Spira]]

message: Just as a side note, if anyone uses mIRC and wants to idle or talk about the project - click here — Cuahl 16:23, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Side note (IRC) 

message: Goal 3 states "Work on perfecting existing articles and getting them accepted as featured articles."  Therefore, I think we should pick a front runner to work on and make into a Featured Artical.  As when this project started, I personally recommend Final Fantasy VI.  I believe that that artical has got potential to be FA status.  All it needs is some touchups.  We should do what we can to get this into FA status.  What do you guys think? -ZeWrestler 00:24, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree completely. In fact, I believe all Final Fantasy articles should be FA standard, and we should assess how each could be improved. At the moment I'm going around creating articles (Triple Triad, Tetra Master) and perfecting old ones so they soon might compare to FA standard. I also mentioned on Seancdaug's talk page about this — Cuahl 00:48, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured Article 

message: Come vote for the first article that we are going to focus on making into a Featured article. --ZeWrestler 20:35, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Featured Article Drive

message: The winner of the Featured Article Drive is Final Fantasy VI.  I have written a blub of what i have in mind that we should do to get the article to become FA.  Suggestions welcome, and needed.  Its only a start.  Use *Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Final Fantasy/Featued Article Drive As a discussion page.  The old votes there have been archived.  That page can now be used to come up with an idea of what we need to work on with the article.  Furthermore, i have gone ahead and created a [[Wikipedia:WikiProject Computer and video games/Peer review|CVG peer review for the game.  Thats about all i can think about for now.  So, feel free to comment and start working on the article. --ZeWrestler 03:27, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Featured Article Drive Winner

message: created a new category for games that exist within the final fantasy series.  these include the games like Tetra Master and blitzball.  the cat is :Category:Final Fantasy subgames.  --ZeWrestler 01:06, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  new cat 

message: As part of the present proposal to expand the criteria for speedy deletion, it has been suggested that all RPG characters that do not have a basis for existence in a book or other offline medium should be deleted.  I suspect this was well-intentioned effort but seems unreasonably broad.  Since this would seem to call for the elimination of all or nearly all articles in :Category:Final Fantasy characters, I figure that this community needs to be made aware of the impact of this proposal.
See: Wikipedia:Criteria for speedy deletion/Proposal/7.
Dragons flight 01:08, July 11, 2005 (UTC)
*Thanks for the heads up, i already voted against this. --ZeWrestler 01:22, 11 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of RPG characters. 

message: Here, I signed myself up as a member the other day, but this WikiProject DOES include the Chrono series, right?  If not, take my name off.  Chou.  Peaceman 01:08, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chrono Trigger 

message: Since we are working on Chrono triger series within this project, so we add sections to the to-do list and the index for Chrono triger related articles? --ZeWrestler 18:42, 13 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: To Do list

message: We have an FF airship article.  Do we need to leave the airship goal on our goal list? --ZeWrestler 13:53, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Airship goal 

message: I didn't even know there were any articles on the FF soundtrack albums until I went to the WikiProject page and noticed the example link of FFIV: Celtic Moon. I think it would be a good idea for the main articles on the games to contain links to the pages on albums related to the games. --Zilog Jones 20:44, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to albums/other related articles