Talk:Despotate of Epirus

message: i'm guessing that it wadn't meant in today's definition but did despotate mean epirus was ruled by a despot? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Philip Laurence (talk • contribs) 05:24, 29 July 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, that's exactly what it meant. You're right that it doesn't mean the same as the modern definition - despot was just a Byzantine title (there is a list of titles at Byzantine aristocracy and bureaucracy), just below emperor.  Usually it referred to the heir to the throne, and later the heirs ruled their own despotate in Morea (similar to the heir to the British throne being the Prince of Wales). Adam Bishop 05:39, 29 Jul 2004 (UTC)

text: This place name sometimes is is rendered Depotate of Epirus;  please source the etymology. --Una Smith (talk) 15:32, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Where is it rendered like that? Adam Bishop (talk) 15:38, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: web pages:   ;  Spink Numismatic Circular 108 (2000), Spink & Son (Google books, snippet view with cite to ref out of view).  See also "depotate" in Google books;  in the sense of a province, depotate appears to be an alternate spelling of "despotate".  I have started an entry on Wiktionary.  --Una Smith (talk) 16:22, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's probably just a typo. Adam Bishop (talk) 16:33, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think not.  The Latin phrase defunctorum ecclesiis depotate occurs in scholarly books in French, German, and Italian, and depotate (noun) and Depotate (office) appears in others, also in multiple languages.  --Una Smith (talk) 17:06, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a difference between the Latin depotate, derived from deputatus, and the "despotate", which is derived from the Greek despotes, "Lord". When used in reference to the Byzantine world, "Despotate" is the only correct spelling. Constantine   ✍  17:36, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition of "despotate" 

message: are not in english. How useful.Tourskin 14:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  maps 

message: it is "Albanian despotate of Epirus " Dodona  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.90.82.126 (talk) 10:24, August 22, 2007 (UTC) 
:There wasn't any "Albanian Despotate of Epirus" and please stop posting POV which are some times products of vivid imagination!! Seleukosa 14:03, 8 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Albanian despotate of Epirus / a nice suggestion for an unecyclopedia 

message: When he captured Essau there is no source claiming that he was entitled Despot of Epirus in Ioannina. Perhaps he got the title 'titularly' when Essau was his hostage, but no source (primary and secondary) is stating this.
By the way, primary sources like the 'Ioannina chronicle' and 'Tocco chronicle' don't  mention something like that. The despot that time was usually elected by a counsil of nobles in Ionnina [Citizenship in medieval Ioannina] has some usefull information about Ioannina of that time and how the local population felt about Zenebishti and his army.Alexikoua (talk) 16:31, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Zenebishti

message: Why the title spells 'Epiros', nor 'Epirus'(Latin, English..) or 'Epeiros'(Greek: Ἤπειρος)? It sounds weird.... any specific reason in this case? 116.43.8.39 (talk) 04:19, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Epiros? 

message: I'm surprised that this article states that this polity survived into the 15th century. As I remember my late Byzantine history -- based on reading one or another of the Cambridge Medieval Histories -- the Palaelogian rulers at Constantinople conquered it around 1312, & it drops out of the account in the usual history books. However, this article chronicles its existence down to Leonardo III Tocco's departure from Vonitsa in 1479. This would make it the longest-lasting post-1204 Greek successor state! My memory of late Byzantine history about this subject must then (1) be wrong; or (2) the usual accounts are mistaken or simplified & the Dspotate did persist this long; or (3) a number of local aristocrats perpetuated the title long after its demise, similar to what happened with the titles of "King of Jerusalem", "King of Lesser Armenia", & "Emperor of the Latin Empire". If (2) &/or (3) are the case, then the article needs to be expanded to explain that. -- llywrch (talk) 20:26, 7 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The date of the end of the Despotate of Epirus 

message: Unlike the Orsinis, the Toccos did not abandoned their Catholic faith after coming to power in Epirus. So, did they changed Epirus' state religion from Eastern Orthodoxy to Roman Catholicism? Симмах (talk) 13:11, 30 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  State religion under the Toccos