Talk:Christian music

message: *33-800AD
*1100-1650AD
The section on the 20th century could be greatly expanded.
Also, more links refering to the Jewish roots of Christianity are required.
Just a few suggestions.
Mr. Jones 11:18, 5 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The Expert tag was applied to this article so that an expert on these time periods would contribute to the article. I have pointed this out because I did not gather the reason for the tag without questioning the contributor who tagged the article. Royalbroil Talk  Contrib 03:37, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Periods missing from the article 

message: *Link removed per Wikipedia's spam filter. Dan, the CowMan 08:18, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The biggest sites in Christian music are probably from the Chik Faith network {www.christian30.com and www.cmnscoop.com), and the Salem network's Christianity Today. 130.220.153.164 (talk) 12:57, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there any statistics you can provided that can prove this claim? These sites don't seem very diverse in thier coverage of the topic. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 15:57, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: I have to say (from the POV of a practising liturgical musician = see [www.stfrancischoir.com] ) that this article needs some serious attention to improve its historicity and authority. It is currently too restricted to protestant/contemporary music to be really regarded as comprehensive or authoratative. I will keep working on it. Please help. Noel 09:15, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. This article reads more like a write-up about CCM than about Christian music in general. Needs major re-working; mebbe even a thorough and complete re-write. I don't have the time for this right now. If anyone has the time, resources (online and books) please do delve in. Also, you may wanna take a look here to jumpstart the search. I've my eye on the page. (Working on the Christian music portal, so...) Cheerio! aJCfreak yAk 22:02, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I hate to jump on the bandwagon here, but this article is poorly written and formatted. I honestly think it needs a full rewrite. It is full of POV and inaccurate information. We definately need a few SMEs to work this out. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 15:12, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

text: I've just adjusted the lead sentence to try to set the long-historical and wide-geographical scopes to this article. Feline Hymnic (talk) 20:12, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  More to Come

message: I've noticed that there are several independent WikiProjects related to Christian music all with very small memberships (or at least only a few active participants). I would like to propose to the WikiProject the possible merger of these projects into one WikiProject (probably entitled Christian music WikiProject with task forces for each genre (Contemporary Christian music, Southern Gospel, urban contemporary gospel, etc.). The other option is to make Christian music as a whole a task force under the Christianity Wikiproject. Please share your thoughts on this issue on the discussion page on the Christian music portal. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 19:49, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed WikiProjects merger?

message: I took a stab at revising the article to give it a more neutral tone and to bring it more in line with the other Wikipedia music genre articles. I found it too difficult to manage the history section without dealing with the POV issues so I deleted it. The thought is that the specific Christian music genre and subgenre pages can handle the issue of history. I was not sure on the genre and subgenre groupings so let me explain my rational so no feelings are hurt...most of the items I listed as genre are actually how music is marketed in mainstream (except those I didn't know...I left those in to be moved at a later time). The subgenres are more of niche markets and types. Those that were left were place in the live performance section (basically because all genres may appear in these forms). If nothing else I hope these edits will help spark attention for this important article. BTW for those who want to join the discussion the new Christian music WikiProject is now active. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 15:48, 8 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: January 8, 2008 Revisions and edits

message: The external links section of the current version at present is an invitation for every commercial venture to advertise themselves, which is clear contravention of Wikipedia principles.  Indeed the "News and Information" and "Music reviews" subsections are already just that.  Can we agree that all links should be informational, not advertising? I propose removing those subsections altogether in the next few days. (In its present guise, that would leave the (good) DMOZ project as the only entry.) Seem OK? Feline Hymnic (talk) 22:41, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I attempted a while back and there were some concerns (see discussion above). The compromise has been to agressively patrol new additions for linkspam. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 22:58, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links: advertising? 

message: May I sugget adding a link to Source One Television (www.SourceOneTV.com). Source One TV is a Christian music news program.
Thank you.
--Pmatadeen (talk) 00:09, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose - The link is not content-relevant. Per WP:NOT#LINK and WP:NOT#ADVERTISING I oppose. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 13:21, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding External Link - Source One Television 

message: An anon user added a link to www.hotworship.com. The claim is that this site is a directory of worship sites, live online worship, blogs, podcasts, etc. I'm not sure it meets the test for external links. Would love other opinions before it is readded. Absolon S. Kent (talk) 13:04, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Hot Worship

message: With the citations Kazuba added, this looks good to me.  I have no problem with the part above the "Pagan" part.  There does need to be a clarification over influences lifted by Christians from non-Christian sources and influences brought into Christianity by converts from other religions such as Greek paganism. Also, words like "populance" need to be replaced with more common, easier-to-understand words.  davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 00:56, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments go here

message: The references to the material was at the end. I shifted some around. Maybe this will make you happy. This is not original research to anyone who studied early Christianity and Paganism in the Roman empire. I doubt if there is a Roman historian who is not aware of this material. It is old hat. It may be new to you. But it is certainly not orginal. Most people just don't dig enough. They are just not THAT interested. Read Ramsay MacMullen's studies. This is his field of expertise. You must know Christmas comes from the Pagan holidays. When Pagans became Christian's they brought what they treasured with them. If this had not occurred Christianity probably would have died out because it was too austere and lacked appeal.                 
Since my material is no longer here. It could have been edited by a caring person. (It is easier to destroy than create) I can only surmise my ideas and material were not welcome or thought to have any value by my critics and readers. I found this to be another interesting experiment (with men.) Thanks for being so unopinionated and open-mined about critical ancient historians and learning something new. 
Kazuba (talk) 02:15, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christian Music 

message: The topic is not highlighted in it and it's difficult to read. Also, the image is not appropriate. Anyone else notice the change? Walter Görlitz (talk) 00:51, 10 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not fond of the new template 

message: A discussion is taking place as to whether :Portal:Christian music is suitable for inclusion in Wikipedia according to Wikipedia's policies and guidelines or whether it should be deleted.
The page will be discussed at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Portal:Christian music until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
Users may edit the page during the discussion, including to improve the page to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the deletion notice from the top of the page. North America1000 23:12, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nomination of [[:Portal:Christian music]] for deletion 

message: Are there also such genres as Christian jazz, Christian reggae, Christian Eurodance, Christian techno, or others?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C7:C201:C640:F47E:5B35:8067:73AA (talk) 15:18, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Walter Görlitz (talk) 16:42, 27 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Then why don't they have pages?  Why aren't they even listed on other pages?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C7:C201:C640:C47D:5264:3626:2F26 (talk) 03:16, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  To be fair, Christian jazz is almost non-existent. I don't know that it qualifies to be considered its own genre. Most jazz players from the last fifty years who self-identify as Christian were active in the "mainstream" genre as well and so there was no need to create a separate sub-genre. There are only a few Christian reggae bands or performers and so they do not qualify. I only know of three in Christian Eurodance and they, along with the many Christian techno artists, likely identify as :Christian electronic dance music today. I do not think your euqstions are earnest though. Walter Görlitz (talk) 05:37, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  What do you mean?  Why don't you think my questions are earnest?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C7:C201:C640:C47D:5264:3626:2F26 (talk) 14:21, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Go into details on the subject. Why do you think these also deserve pages, or at least sections in this article? What is your concern about them? Walter Görlitz (talk) 18:36, 28 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  I want to make sure that they actually exist and that the Christian template is missing no genres.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:C7:C201:C640:C47D:5264:3626:2F26 (talk) 00:43, 29 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Christian fusion 

message: — Assignment last updated by Megan1473 (talk) 01:32, 17 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Introduction to Public Musicology