Talk:Iloilo International Airport

message: Wikipedia must change to a typeface that distinguishes between capital I and lower-case L (l).  This stupid typeface leaves it unclear whether this airport is
IIoilo, lloilo, or Iloilo.  Those 3 all look the same, though those are 3 different spellings.  You must look in edit mode to see the differences, where a different typeface is used that does so distinguish. Spelled all in capitals those 3 are IIOILO, LLOILO, AND ILOILO. Because this does not appear to be English, I must leave open the possibility that the word begins with 2 capital letters. Who's going to change that typeface?--it's way beyond my capability. Korky Day (talk) 21:50, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Try the village pump for these types of complaints.  However, with the current typeface, it is up to the user to properly discern and spell the name correctly, which (in capital letters to distinguish) is ILOILO.  --Sky Harbor 14:15, 30 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually, Wikipedia does not specify any preferred font for most of the text. It just follows the browser's default, which, basing on your problem, is most probably Arial on your computer. I have set mine to Verdana, which has serifs on the "I" (the 9th letter) so I have no problem. --seav 05:35, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Typeface unclear how to spell Iloilo 

message: Some of the tenses of the paragraphs, especially those that relate to planning and construction still use the simple present or present progressive or simple future tenses when these should be simple past, past perfect, or past progressive tenses. --seav (talk) 02:44, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll try finishing the corrections in time for FA status.  But I still need a picture. --Sky Harbor 02:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar tenses check 

message: According to the new classification of airports by the CAAP (Civial aviation Authority of the Philippines), Iloilo is not classified as an International Airport but a Principal (class 1) airport meaning it does not have facilities for immigration entry. In fact Kalibo is the only airport in the western visayas region that has been classified as International. see http://www.caap.gov.ph/Downloads/ncaapcoa.pdf for further information. Cemby (talk) 17:02, 25 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That fact is already mentioned in the article.  However, per WP:UCN, the most common name for the airport is "Iloilo International Airport". --Sky Harbor (talk) 13:17, 1 December 2010 (UTC)

text: The airport now handles direct flights between Iloilo and Singapore/Hong Kong Tumandokkangcabatuan (talk) 03:57, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iloilo International...  

message: This airport ONLY serves ILOILO CITY. PASSI CITY is not served by this airport based on how the airlines (PAL, Cebu Pacific, etc.) market/label this airport. As they market it as ILOILO CITY, the said city is the major city associated by this airport. You do not hear airlines say "Fly to Passi City!". Furthermore, Passi City is not a major city as it is only a fourth class city. Unless if a verifiable source is provided that says all these airlines associate this airport with Passi City, please refrain from indicating Passi City as a city-served based on the infobox guidelines. Thank you. pikdig (talk) 17:43, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I have read the guidelines on cities served ... when the airport is located in a town, the town should be placed in the "location" and the cities that it serves are on the "serve" box ... and this is what I'm doing. ... Passi City is to the north of the airport while Iloilo City is to the south of the airport. The airport itself is located about midway between Passi City and Iloilo City, in the town of Cabatuan, Iloilo Tumandokkangcabatuan (talk) 04:00, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This source [] states that the Airport serves "The cities being served by this airport are Iloilo City to the south and Passi City to the north. The airport also serves the entire Province of Iloilo." Maybe a better way of saying this is that the Airport serves the Province of Iloilo. I have changed it to the province of Iloilo, it's a compromise that I think everyone can agree covers both things without too much detail. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 05:54, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Allow me to jump in here.  While the airport does serve the province of Iloilo (as is the case with a lot of airports in the Philippines, and perhaps even in other areas), Template:Infobox Airport says that the major city served should be put in said syntax.  To note: "If the airport is associated with a major city but actually located in a smaller town, list the major city here and the smaller town under location. This is not automatically linked, in order to allow multiple links if needed."  The major city here is Iloilo City, not Passi: Passi is around 50 kilometers north of Iloilo City, and is significantly smaller than Iloilo City despite being the "second city" of the province. --Sky Harbor (talk) 11:40, 15 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Let me reiterate again, according to the Infobox usage guidelines, this should be a major city that is associated with the airport; hence the usage of Iloilo province does not meet this criteria. Furthermore, Passi City, I believe, is not considered a major city since it is not highly urbanized based on Philippine standards; the article on Passi City indicates that it is a fourth class city only. Furthermore, I would like to contest the validity of iloiloairport.com as a verifiable source; in my opinion, the website design looks questionable as it does not have the usual sections of usual airport websites (ex. flight schedules, contact persons, etc.) pikdig (talk) 12:05, 15 July 2013 (UTC)

text: Kudos to Hell in a Bucket for a solomonic compromise. While it removed my addition of Passi City, the overall change to Iloilo Province is just as accurate, or even more accurate. Tumandokkangcabatuan (talk) 12:28, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Welcome back and thank you. Hell In A Bucket (talk) 13:06, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  City-served 

message: I find the infobox title not that readable.  To make everything more readable and understandable -- especially the "(Cabutuan Airport)" -- I changed the size of the font of "(Cabutuan Airport)".  My change was reverted.  I prefer the different font size.  Is anyone with me?  What's the WP:Consensus? --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 12:48, 4 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Readability of Infobox

message: http://www.iloiloairport.com is used as a source in the article.  Does anyone know anything about it?  Who created the website? Who wrote the content?  There is no information about the author or publisher on the website and there is little in the way of references there as well.Does it comply with the standards of WP:SOURCE?  If not, we should delete it and find another source. --Iloilo Wanderer (talk) 04:01, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is http://www.iloiloairport.com a legitimate source? 

message: Hi,
I am Jose Nereo C. Lujan, the Chief of the Public Information and Community Affairs Office of the Province of Iloilo. Please be informed that the Iloilo International Airport is in Cabatuan, Iloilo, thus its secondary name is Cabatuan Airport. There is no way that it should have a secondary name "Santa Barbara Airport" for the reason that the access road is in the town of Santa Barbara. What happens if an access road is constructed from the town of San Miguel? Should it also have a secondary name "San Miguel Airport".
I have here an Identification Card (No. 3627) for the Iloilo Airport Security Committee, which expires February 2015, and the official address of the Iloilo International Airport is "Cabatuan, Iloilo".
You may reach me at my office:
Public Information and Community Affairs Office
2nd Floor, Iloilo Provincial Capitol
Bonifacio Drive, Iloilo City
Telfax: +63 33 3377837; Mobile: +63 918 5000483
I hope this settles the issue.
Thank you,
Nereo.lujan (talk) 02:42, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This does not help at all. We have no way of telling who you are. Also we are not discussing the use of an official name but what some people mistakenly call the airport. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 08:09, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

text: Thanks for information we have included the alternate names of both Cabatuan and Santa Barbara Airport as provided by reliable references, that fact that some names are not considered to be official does not distract from the fact that some people use it. The fact that some people and perhaps the airport itself doesnt like it doesnt mean that we as an encyclopedia can ignore properly referenced fact. We dont say that either Cabatuan or Santa Barbara are used officially and a lot of airports can still be named by some as the unofficial and sometimes long out of use names. Just as an example Newark Liberty International Airport is regular called New York Newark Airport or various combinations of those names but it not the official name and is not actually in New York or even New York state. MilborneOne (talk) 18:44, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a reply to the comment of MilborneOne. The three alternative names of Newark Liberty International Airport, which are "Newark Liberty International Airport" "Newark Metropolitan Airport" and "Newark International Airport", are all accurate because the airport is in Newark. That is not comparable to Sta Barbara because there is no airport (no runway nor terminals) in Sta. Barbara. I find the neutral proposal of admin CambridgeBayWeather acceptable and have edited to his exact language. Tumandokkangcabatuan (talk) 22:48, 11 December 2013 (UTC)

text: Your comment was noted but that fact you and others dont like it is not a reason to remove the mention, the aerticle clearly mentions the official name and the two alternates are clearly noted as such. We dont need official confirmation from anything other than reliable sources which I am afraid indicate that the two alternate names Cabatuan and Santa Barbara Airport are used. Thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 17:21, 12 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Nereo.lujan, after your first post I checked online and was able to see that Jose Nereo C. Lujan who is in that position was a real person. However, nobody is going to call that number to see who answers. Please don't post copies of anything official as that would probably violate copyright and leave you open to identity theft, especially if you used your passport. Also from what I posted above in the other section "The discussion is not to replace the common/correct name with something else. The discussion is to provide the referenced information that some people incorrectly call the airport by a different name." CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 20:26, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

text: I never said nor did I tend to imply that I was going to sue you for identity theft. I meant that posting a copy of your passport would make it easier for someone else to steal your identity. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 05:21, 13 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location of Iloilo Airport 

message: Hi, I have read this article in wikipedia because I am very much concerned also with Iloilo International Airport or Cabatuan Airport. We work in the contractor side during the construction of the airport. When I read this article here in wikipedia, I wonder why there is a Sta. Barbara Airport when there is actually no airport in Sta. Barbara. Only 2km of 3km access road from the main highway belongs to Sta. Barbara. The rest of the access road until it reaches the airport belongs to Cabatuan.  Now I have a question, what if the original plan, in which the access road will be passing through Brgy. Tiring, Cabatuan, Iloilo only had pushed through, will you still call it Sta. Barbara Airport as an alternative name, because it is a nearby town or San Miguel Airport because it is also a nearby town? Dear editors can you correct this article  so that your reader will not be misled please? 175.157.127.136 (talk)
:I don't think that anybody is going to be misled. Some people call it by the wrong name and the article reflects that. The article is at the correct name and reflects that in the text. CambridgeBayWeather (talk) 22:23, 17 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: CambridgeBayWeather, Does it say in the current article that it's the wrong name? Where is it reflected in the current article that it's the wrong name? Your original language that you were adamant about had the word "incorrectly", but when I agreed to your language, and I inserted it, you removed it. And then you turn around and say, I don't listen. Isn't it ironic that the very person I listened to and agreed with would now say that I refused to listen? Tumandokkangcabatuan (talk) 17:37, 19 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Contractor comment

message: ::Duyan Duyan Cabatuan Iloilo Airport after the specific barrio where the airport is located should also be put as an alternative name since this is verifiable as an official location (see airport directory, first link below) and as a colloguial name (see second link below).
airport directory
::http://web.archive.org/web/20131004213246/http://www.caap.gov.ph/web/officesList.htm?init=I
Duyan Duyan Cabatuan Iloilo Airport as colloquial name
::http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/view+classifieds/id/23547696/Duyan-duyan+Cabatuan+Iloilo+Airport+Lot
:: Tumandokkangcabatuan (talk) 03:48, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hell In A Bucket , Thanks for the SPI reports. I would like to insert Duyan Duyan Cabatuan Iloilo Airport as an alternative name in the article since it is verifiable. Your opinion please? Tumandokkangcabatuan (talk) 04:17, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: MilborneOne, Fictional? Duyan-Duyan Cabatuan Iloilo is the official full address of the airport. And you call that fictional? No wonder you were opposed to the official name of the airport. It seems like you want to rename the airport away from its official names and addresses. Tumandokkangcabatuan (talk) 11:08, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I didnt say it was not the postal address just that we (or in fact anybody) doesnt call an airport by its postal address so it is clearly made up to make a point, which appears in your next post. MilborneOne (talk) 16:06, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

text: Sta Barbara Airport is fictional because it does not exist. But Duyan-Duyan Cabatuan Iloilo Airport is physically real because there is an airport in that place. Tumandokkangcabatuan (talk) 11:23, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not a discussion about Santa Barbara but your request to add the postal address as if it was the name of the airport. If this is really still about Santa Barbara then perhaps you should consider after two blocks that is probably a subject you should avoid. MilborneOne (talk) 16:06, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

text: It was you who brought up the term fictional. And that applies squarely on Sta Barbara Airport because there is no airport in Santa Barbara. Sta Barbara Airport is bogus. Your airport is not real, intended only to mislead readers into believing that there is something there when there is none. Tumandokkangcabatuan (talk) 19:57, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duyan Duyan Cabatuan Iloilo Airport 

message: The term "Santa Barbara Airport" should not be put in the lead as an "alternative name" because it is inaccurate.
According to this wiki page (link below), it is better not to put any information at all rather than put misleading or false information:
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Inaccuracy
::"WP:Editing policy states, "on Wikipedia a lack of information is better than misleading or false information"."
Sta. Barbara Airport is misleading and false because:
1. There is no airport in Santa Barbara, Iloilo, past or present. There is no runway nor terminals in that town. The old Iloilo Airport is located far away in Mandurriao, and the new one is located in Cabatuan.
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandurriao_Airport
::http://caap.gov.ph/index.php/contact-us/directory/finish/22-contact/163-caap-airport-directory  (under Region VI )
2. It is not the official name of that airport, whether past or present. The official name of the old airport and the new airport is Iloilo Airport.
::http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/Iloilo_Airport.jpg
::http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-fupp6q5-_co/TZp5lsh6PlI/AAAAAAAABJ8/tZloevL4VIQ/s640/2884802030_6f973c102b.jpg
3. Sta. Barbara is not a city being served by the airport. There are only two cities in the Province of Iloilo, Passi City  and Iloilo City.
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iloilo#Subdivisions
Tumandokkangcabatuan (talk) 05:38, 26 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The term Santa Barbara Airport is inaccurate and should not be put in the lead as an alternative name 

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message: This article is about an airport in the Philippines, therefore I have set the variant to en-PH and have reformatted all the dates to mdy. A diehard editor (talk | edits) 09:48, 18 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philippine English + mdy dates