Talk:Kimi Finster

message: I've been a rugrats fan since I have memory and I have followed the show even until now in All Grown Up, I know Kimi Finster enough to see that the contributors are exaggerating with their point of view about Kimi Finster.
The page has a lack of facts, most of the paragraphs are just speculating about uncertain events of the future or even episodes that might not be real at all.
Plus the page has a lot of irrelevant details, they even included episodes were Kimi was not shown at all which I think it's disrespectful for this encyclopedia.
Finally they are enlisting a lot of skills and traits (which aren't real or shown on the show)  for this character but instead of explaining them they just quoted moments were Kimi appeared and the page goes on and on about those moments and repeating them constantly but nothing that could be essencial.
This page needs to be cleaned and the bias should let other contributors to put information too. Tamao 06:00, 13 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Biased, confusing Page

message: First, my credentials: I don't know a damned thing about Kimi Finster, Rugrats, or All Grown Up.  Never seen the shows, never really been interested, etc.  Not that there's anything wrong with these things, mind.  They're just not my cup of tea.
That said, I've sorta found myself in the position of an unofficial mediator between the folks who want to maintain this page, based on my comments at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kimi Finster.  People are asking me questions about the article, whether it's biased, and so forth.  So I've taken a look at the article, and would like to offer the following thoughts:
First off, the article is overly dense and cluttered.  You've got a lot of meticulous detail that isn't necessary for an encyclopedia.  Just to provide one example, consider the following:
In 'Memoirs of a Finster' it was implied that Kimi knows how to ice skate. Chuckie had been going to her for lessons so he could be ready for a party his friend Nicole was having. At the time, Kimi was distracted due to her discovering of her Japanese heritage, but, in the end, she finally woke him up early so she could teach him. Although Kimi has never been seen ice-skating on the show herself, the fact that Chuckie came to her for help implies that she does know a thing or two about it. It is also safe to assume that if she is good at ice skating, it's possible that she's also a good roller blader as well (part of her wardrobe implies that Kimi, in her spare time, is a roller skater.)
That whole paragraph can be usefully condensed into:
"In 'Memoirs of a Finster' it was implied that Kimi knows how to ice skate.  Although Kimi has never been seen ice-skating on the show, Chuckie was taking ice-skating lessons from her in this episode."
And that's really all you need to convey the facts.  As an example of a well-formatted, well-written Wikipedia entry about a fictional character, you might take a look at Ron Weasley (or, really, any of the Harry Potter characters).
Secondly, there are several aspects of Kimi's personality and character are mentioned multiple times throughout the article, when they only need to be mentioned once.  Examples include (but are not limited to) the fact that Kimi likes Dummi Bears (mentioned 3 times in the article) and the fact that her father is named Hiro (also mentioned 3 times in the article). 
Thirdly, the stuff about who's being paired off with who in various slashfic and shipfic fan pages is not something that really belongs on the character's main page.  The Harry Potter fans on Wiki have created a Harry Potter fandom page.  You folks might consider doing the same, making a Rugrats fandom page and then putting all of the fan-related stuff — especially the who's dating who stuff — into the fandom page.
These are, ultimately, just suggestions.  I have no enforcement powers.  I'm just a user, like you folks, and merely seek to have high-quality Wikipedia articles.  But I think that, if these suggestions were implemented, the article would be improved.  → Ξxtreme Unction {yakłblah} 20:01, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some thoughts from an outside observer 

message: First of all, I don't want to sound rude or anything but, don't cover yourself with holy water and pretend that you and Staredcraft were telling me all this time to do someting for the wikipedia page because that isn't true, you attacked me and my points since you started posting in this page and anybody who reads this page can tell you so.
Anyway, Ok let's make a deal, I guess we all want the best for the wikipedia pages so, let's try to re-start it again and those contrversial entries, will be discussed here, seeing the points of view of all of us and we will determine if the entries should stay or not.
I hope we all make an effort to make this page a good part of wikipedia, thanks. Tamao 17:51, 16 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''Deal''' 

message: Are there people who are really biased for/against Kimi Finster?!? I would not have thought it possible! - Ta bu shi da yu 03:43, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this for real? 

message: Really, a lot more needs to be done. Please, don't reinsert the trivia section because we are NOT a fan site! It's perfectly fine to link to fan sites that include this information, but unless you can incorporate it into the main text it's really not necessary information. 
The section I've not touched are not neutrally written. They are written from the perspective of a fan, and quite sloppily worded. The text needs a lot of tightening up. 
One last thing: Perhaps Rugrats needs it's own template? - Ta bu shi da yu 04:15, 19 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Large copyedit done 

message: The original photo of Kimi was taken down by an editor (I put it back).  Since then, another user added this photo.  Do you think it should be included?  It's a bit strange.  Nonetheless, if someone knows the specifics of how she fell, ripped her pants (I don't remember), you may want to re-add this with a better description. Michael 05:16, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone? Michael 21:16, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pictures 

message: What the heck does this article have to do with France? Is it because she was introduced in Rugrats in Paris? --Candy-Panda 04:07, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikiproject France?! 

message: Okay, first of all, this is the biggest mess I've seen on Wikipedia.
Secondly,  Kimi's native language is English, not Japanese.  A commonly accepted definition of a native speaker of a language is "that the individual acquired the language in childhood and sustains the use of the language." (Lee, Joseph J. 2005).  The line in the triva about Kimi not using her native language is a contradiction.  If she doesn't use it, and never seemed to aquire it in the first place, it's not her native language. (I can not remember my log in information)24.21.209.135 21:08, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Native Language