Talk:Stroud

message: Obviously it's not a topic that Stroud would like to publicise, but being objective as wikipedia is the culture in Stroud is far too big and prominent, especially among the younger generation to not mention it. The Esso and Maccy D hating Green Party image is more of a fantasy of Celestianpower's than that of a popular stereotype. Sure that character exists, probably in Stroud more so than most other places, but it's not the leading characters in Stroud, anymore anyway.
:But is it notable?  Are there prosecution figures, drug related deaths, or numbers of people being treated for addiction, to show that it is any different to anywhere else?  Lame Name (talk) 11:47, 3 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  It is notable. I will find references to prove it. This article makes Stroud look like a very up-market, very clean and fancy place- from reading this, I'd get the impression that it's a sort of country version of somewhere like Chelsea or Mayfair. Fact is, it's pretty rough, the crime is high and there is a massive drug problem for a place of its size. 80.41.85.45 (talk) 19:59, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I look forward to seeing those figures.   ♦ Jongleur100 ♦ talk 20:11, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  There was a major drugs raid at the up town down town nightclub on the a46 (next to mcdonalds) a few years ago, that should have made the papers and there might be an online reference in the SNJ (although I doubt anything newsworthy has ever made it to print on that rag...)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.2.125.228 (talk) 03:09, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Drugs

message: Have left most of Celestianpower's reverts alone but thought it worth pointing out that it's always better to use fewer words to convey the same info.  For example, what does "hamlets" really add? Why add the word "nearby" if it's "on the outskirts" of somewhere?  How many towns don't have some shops and a bank?  To be honest, doesn't "places of interest" followed immediately by "er, well there are quite a lot of shops" sound just a bit absurd?  Do a leisure centre and a multi-storey car park really constitute "places of interest"?  OK, Stroud may be a bit light on them but there are surely places more interesting than that!!  By the way headings aren't supposed to have caps throughout, just at the start.  Best wishes Flapdragon 13:55, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah - Okay, I take you're comments on board. Do you come from in/around Stroud then? --Celestianpower talk 14:32, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, Thrupp/Brimscombe really. Stroud has suffered a bit over the years and will never be as pretty as it no doubt was before the Industrial Revolution, but it's certainly in better shape than it was it the 70s and 80s when I was growing up. It will never be first on any tourist's itinerary, but it's not quite as boring as the text implies -- it's not a bad article but I feel there is a risk of implying that the place has been totally ruined and has nothing to offer the visitor (not even a bus station now). It would be good to have a quick mention of stuff like the Shambles, the Old Town Hall (16thC), the museum, Ebley Mill, Rodburgh Fort (just an irrelevant external link from the pic at the moment), as well as its pre-Industrial Revolution history ("Stroud 700"). Also a pic of, say, the Sub Rooms and the Clock would be more relevant than the Sapperton tunnel mouth (would have moved it but currently no entry for Sapperton!). The Hill Paul factory might be worth an entry of its own, certainly a pic, preferably "before and after". Also something about (conversely) Stroud being, or so it has been claimed, a textbook case of out-of-town "superstores" destroying a local shopping centre made up of independent specialist shops. Interesting comparisons with Nailsworth could be made. In fact I did wonder about the line that says that Nailsworth is one of those places within the commercial orbit of Stroud -- people there might claim it actually provides the things Stroud no longer has, like a butchers' shop! Just a matter of finding the time, as usual... Flapdragon 16:15, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

text: Cool!!!! I do too. I might know you... Add some more to the Thrupp & Brimscombe article when/if you get time then. It's just short and not all that good so far. I've been thinking about going out with the DigiCam for a while but haven't got round to it. --Celestianpower talk 14:43, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Places of interest

message: Interesting nobody nowadays has thought to bring up the Great Tesco Trees controversy of circa 1990. Contrast Shepton Mallet where they've written reams on it... Linuxlad 20:59, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tesco

message: Shouldn't there be something in here about the ongoing fights concerning Stroud's hospitals, Weavers Croft and Stroud Maternity? There have been several battles to keep the maternity unit open over the years. Gruffle Gaw 14:37, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hospitals 

message: Also, some information about the Costa Coffee saga should be in here, especially since it relates to the issue of the imbalance of retail/food outlets in the town centre, which is topical and central to the town's identity. Gruffle Gaw 12:45, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Costa Coffee 

message: Anyone feel like compiling a Sports section?  There's quite a lot of it available nearby ... --NigelG (or Ndsg) | Talk 11:13, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sport 

message: Some brief (non-confrontational :-) observations:
*The article is about the town of Stroud but a lot of the listed artists etc. are living elsewhere in the Stroud District.  
*"Stroud citizens have a history of independent thought and action going back to the Wool Riots of 1825."  Are we saying that there was no "independent thought" (as opposed to Collective thought ?)  prior to 1825?  The name "wool Riots" only seems to exist in this article and is usually referred to as the Stroudwater Riots (as indicated by the reference) - but it was mostly a strike about pay and as such does not support the claim of "independent thought and action".
*A big claim like "Britain's first fully-organic café," needs a reliable reference rather than a mention on a promotional guide website.  Something like Soil Association certification like this place. 
*The Digital Stroud  website looks like an interesting project. They do include a bibliography but there is no link for the Hill Paul story - which does not get a mention here.  Is this not more of a local paper story rather than an encyclopedic entry?
Lame Name (talk) 17:51, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your contributions. Work in progress. How's Stow-in-the Wold going?   ♦ Jongleur100 ♦ talk 18:53, 18 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Also, as part of the protest section, it does give the impression at the moment that all protests are successful. Despite the demonstrations, tesco is here, mcdonalds is here, the bus station was torn down and replaced with a cinema and both the stroud and ebley bypasses were built. Also, the fact that the uplands post office was saved with local rates money and that it is used by only the residents of uplands, not all the residents of stroud deserves a mention. 
Just to balance it out: not all the protests achieve their aims, and when they do, they are controversial. Just because people stand outside with a banner and get their picture in the local paper, it does not mean they are right.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.2.125.228 (talk) 03:17, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changes & Quality of references  

message: The population figure for Stroud in the infobox is 12,690, which is similar to that for Thornbury (12,342) and considerably less than that for Cirencester (19,000). This is an obvious nonsense (it's a parish figure). The ONS statistic for Stroud District is 107,898, but I can't find one for the actual town. I seem to remember reading somewhere that it is well in excess of 20,00 but I can't find a source. Can anyone help?   ♦ Jongleur100 ♦ talk 14:35, 25 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an old question, but I've just hit the same problem. I don't know Stroud well, so I need some guidance. The population figure does seem a bit low. In the lead, it says the parishes of Stroud (pop.12,690), Rodborough (pop. 5,115) and Cainscross (5,839) are often considered one conurbation, giving a combined population of 23,644 (all using 2001 ONS census data). Before I write a Demography section that that no Stroudian would recognise, does it make sense to combine the figures for these three parishes? GyroMagician (talk) 07:39, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Since I posted the above message the figure has been updated to 32,052 in the infobox, using the ONS 2001 census data, which is referenced. This would seem to be the correct figure for the town so it wouldn't make much sense to combine parish figures to arrive at a different one.   ♦ Jongleur100 ♦ talk 09:45, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Now how about that? I read the first line, which matched my figure, and didn't read any further - doh! Thanks for pointing out. GyroMagician (talk) 10:17, 5 October 2010 (UTC)

text: Phew, section added. Demography is a horrible section to write, I promise never to do one again. I took stats for the urban area, rather than the CP, as it seems to fit better. How did I do? GyroMagician (talk) 00:00, 6 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Population

message: Bit surprised to see Jasper Conran included under the heading of "Scientists" - and I can't find anything in his own Wikipedia article to suggest it's appropriate.  Can anybody suggest a better heading?  The best I can come up with at the moment is "Creative".  I think "Fashion Designers" would probably be too specific.
Zeusfaber (talk) 18:37, 22 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable People 

message: This section of the page reads very badly and is very biased in the way that it describes protests in Stroud. I propose that it is rewritten to give a more objective view of Stroud protests. e.g. "unwanted traffic plans", "the public won the day".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2.24.31.152 (talk) 12:13, 10 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems reasonably well written. Do you still have any concerns? Martinevans123 (talk) 09:28, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Campaigns 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on Stroud. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20090213052941/http://www.wildinthecotswolds.co.uk:80/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357&Itemid=80 to http://www.wildinthecotswolds.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=357&Itemid=80
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 14:58, 8 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified  on Stroud. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20151001163432/https://neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/dissemination/LeadKeyFigures.do?a=7&b=11129255&c=Stroud&d=16&e=62&g=6427852&i=1001x1003x1032x1004&m=0&r=1&s=1427624280408&enc=1 to https://neighbourhood.statistics.gov.uk/dissemination/LeadKeyFigures.do?a=7&b=11129255&c=Stroud&d=16&e=62&g=6427852&i=1001x1003x1032x1004&m=0&r=1&s=1427624280408&enc=1
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090804211441/http://www.statistics.gov.uk/statbase/ssdataset.asp?vlnk=8283&More=Y to http://www.statistics.gov.uk/statbase/ssdataset.asp?vlnk=8283&More=Y
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090804232415/http://www.statistics.gov.uk/statbase/ssdataset.asp?vlnk=8326&More=Y to http://www.statistics.gov.uk/statbase/ssdataset.asp?vlnk=8326&More=Y
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20160304053928/http://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/9523123.NHS_managers_agree_to_halt_plans_for_Stroud_General_Hospital_to_be_run_by_a_social_enterprise/r/?ref=twtrec&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter to http://www.stroudnewsandjournal.co.uk/news/9523123.NHS_managers_agree_to_halt_plans_for_Stroud_General_Hospital_to_be_run_by_a_social_enterprise/r/?ref=twtrec
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120402093620/http://www.fresh-n-local.co.uk/about/awards.php to http://www.fresh-n-local.co.uk/about/awards.php
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20070625114026/http://www2.newsquest.co.uk:80/stroud/picture_special/PICTURE_SPECIAL26.html to http://www2.newsquest.co.uk/stroud/picture_special/PICTURE_SPECIAL26.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20101220134328/http://www.britishcouncil.org:80/italy-arts-alanhollinghurst.htm to http://www.britishcouncil.org/italy-arts-alanhollinghurst.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100606185829/http://www.redler.com/en/aboutus/ to http://www.redler.com/en/aboutus/
*Added  tag to http://www.spectator.co.uk/columnists/life/23669/part_2/the-fabled-fred.thtml.
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at ).
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 09:20, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on Stroud. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120927190939/http://www.stroud.gov.uk/info/ihca/4.pdf to http://www.stroud.gov.uk/info/ihca/4.pdf
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130725051410/http://alanthornhill.co.uk/thoughts%20on%20creativity.htm to http://www.alanthornhill.co.uk/thoughts%20on%20creativity.htm
*Corrected formatting/usage for http://www2.newsquest.co.uk/stroud/picture_special/PICTURE_SPECIAL26.html
*Corrected formatting/usage for http://www.britishcouncil.org/italy-arts-alanhollinghurst.htm
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 13:27, 24 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 9 external links on Stroud. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20111005230236/http://www.molli.org.uk/wrapping_the_globe/sw_wool.htm to http://www.molli.org.uk/wrapping_the_globe/sw_wool.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100409015732/http://www.cotswoldcanals.com/history.htm to http://www.cotswoldcanals.com/history.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120401005716/http://digitalstroud.com/landmarks.php?pageid=517&topid=6&pid=333 to http://digitalstroud.com/landmarks.php?pageid=517&topid=6&pid=333
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20160305021649/http://www.savestroudhospitals.org/ to http://www.savestroudhospitals.org/
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20110720024759/http://www.glosgen.co.uk/stroud.htm to http://www.glosgen.co.uk/stroud.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20100616050723/http://www.marling.gloucs.sch.uk/mod/resource/view.php?id=112 to http://www.marling.gloucs.sch.uk/mod/resource/view.php?id=112
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20120226090458/http://www.parksandgardens.ac.uk/274/explore-31/historical-profiles-176/people-at-the-cutting-edge%3A-lawnmower-designers-483.html to http://www.parksandgardens.ac.uk/274/explore-31/historical-profiles-176/people-at-the-cutting-edge%3A-lawnmower-designers-483.html
*Added  tag to http://pimagazine.net/index.php/weblog/more/brakes_interview/
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130619072556/http://southwestsnookeracademy.com/wp/ to http://southwestsnookeracademy.com/wp/
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20080509122131/http://www.rosaryschool.ik.org/ to http://www.rosaryschool.ik.org/
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 21:43, 3 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on Stroud. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20091121193415/http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/gloucestershireheadlines/Gloucestershire-town-gets-currency/article-1333162-detail/article.html to http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/gloucestershireheadlines/Gloucestershire-town-gets-currency/article-1333162-detail/article.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140715035243/http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/hot-seat-Katie-Fforde/article-354274-detail/article.html to http://www.thisisbristol.co.uk/news/hot-seat-Katie-Fforde/article-354274-detail/article.html
*Added  tag to http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/BAFTA-winner-Emily-headlines-Easter-fest/story-18200142-detail/story.html
*Added archive https://archive.is/20120912191120/http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/gloucestershireheadlines/Eddie-Eagle-Edwards-return-Olympics/article-1556070-detail/article.html to http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/gloucestershireheadlines/Eddie-Eagle-Edwards-return-Olympics/article-1556070-detail/article.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20140715090115/http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/stroud/sport/Hignell-claims-BBC-award/article-547096-detail/article.html to http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/stroud/sport/Hignell-claims-BBC-award/article-547096-detail/article.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 23:08, 28 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Recent edits to the history section by an unregistered editor who geolocates to Swindon - while well intentioned - are wholly unreferenced.  References from reliable published sources should be added, or else all those edits may be reverted.  Please read WP:RS and WP:REFB... etc.   Ghmyrtle (talk) 06:47, 14 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits on history 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Stroud's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Guardian":
From Siobhan Baillie: 
From 1994–95 Gillingham F.C. season: 
From Industrial Revolution: 
From Great Western Railway: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 23:22, 12 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Stroud]]