Talk:List of WWE personnel/Archive 6

message: I thought there may be a reason the page wasn't edited yet, so I haven't either.
Can we all agree on the following:
Remove Cena/HBK as a Tag Team.
Add the Hardyz as a Tag Team.
Move Matt to the Raw Roster.
Add Flair and Carlito as a Tag Team w/ Torrie Wilson. They did come out together to Flair's music, so does that make it official? Gavyn Sykes 16:51, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Matt Hardy isn't on the RAW Roster as of right now. He is still a Smackdown Superstar as far as WWE.com . Maybe tomorrow, he will be on the RAW roster.  205.151.6.33 15:38, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Matt is de facto on the RAW roster because he holds on of their championships (a la Gregory Helms becoming Cruiserweight Champion and moving to SmackDown!), WWE.com takes forever to update the rosters (Joey Mercury was released a week ago). Bmg916SpeakSign 15:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  "WWE takes forever to update its roster" is completely untrue. It all depends on the situation. They've updated it quickly before, and they've taken forever to do it before. Matt Hardy is still currently a SmackDown! superstar until WWE says otherwise. L2K 16:40, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: WWE has said otherwise by giving him a RAW title. Just as Gregory Helms automatically moved over to SmackDown after he won the Cruiserweight title. Bmg916SpeakSign 16:47, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updates from tonight's Raw...

message: Let's take a vote to put this to bed--Matt Hardy should be listed as a Raw Wrestler and I cite the Gregory Helms Rule (you win a brand's title, you become part of their roster) to back me up.
#I vote yea. Ohgltxg 19:17 4 April, 2007 (UTC)
#Support citing the Gregory Helms clause Bmg916SpeakSign 19:22, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think a more logical compromise would be to keep him on Smackdown until WWE says otherwise. DaHumorist 9:46 7 April, 2007
Our proof was last night on SmackDown!: Jeff Hardy came out with the RAW namestamp, and Matt came out with the SmackDown! one. If that's not proof enough, I don't know what is. Matt is staying on the SmackDown! roster until he comes out with the RAW namestamp or until he is moved on WWE.com. L2K 16:21, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Matt Hardy is a Raw wrestler 

message: They are cruiserweight heels, and they are allied for the Cruiserweight storyline. If you were going to make them an official stable, it should include Jamie Noble. 
Reasons why not to include them:
*1. Chavo Guerrero is a singles competitor, with the Cruiserweight Championship as proof
*2. They have only had 1 televised match
*3. Haven't been mentioned officially as a tag team by ring announcers, commentators or WWE
-And if I were the Gregory Helms character, I would hate to tag with the guy who stole my Cruiserweight Championship and hasn't given me a rematch :@
Lex94 16:24  07/04/07
They came out together on Smackdown! - to Chavo's music with their weights being announced combined. If that was enough to list Carlito and Flair as a Tag Team then it's definately enough to list Chavo and Helms as such. If you don't list Chavo and Helms then in my opinion Carlito and Flair should be removed as well. Gavyn Sykes 21:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is how simple it is: Carlito & Flair were referred to as a tag team on numerous occassions (outside of matches). HBK and Cena were referred to as a tag team on numerous occassions (outside of matches). Gregory Helms and Chavo Guerrero have teamed twice on television (the WM23 match counts, cuz they showed parts of it). But big freakin deal. The Hardy Boyz have teamed up with CM Punk more than once, but have we put them as a stable? No. John Cena teamed up with DX a few months back a couple times, but we never added him to DX. Until Guerrero and Helms are called a team outside of a match by one of the announcers, they don't go on the list. Carlito & Flair stays until they break up. L2K 20:54, 8 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Chavo & Helms have been teaming up for the last month, they should be a team. So have Chris Masters & Kenny Dykstra. WWE is also putting Miz & Johnny Nitro as a tag team as well. Meanwhile Carlito & Flair have broke up. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 4.139.239.114 (User talk:4.139.239.114talk) 21:22, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Carlito and Flair have not broken up, where does WWE call Miz and Nitro a team? Just because they were in the battle royal where WWE put random guys together to make it look like the tag team division wasn't crap? TJ Spyke 05:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chavo Guerrero and Gregory Helms? 

message: Why was Balls removed from the ECW originals on this page? He never was formally discussed or stated that he left the Originals on wwe.com or any other site.
He is part of the Originals, and it should stay that way—Preceding unsigned comment added by Lex94 (talk • contribs) 
:Have you not been watching ECW?  He appeared twice with them, and hasn't appeared with them in over a month now, WWE doesn't even make mention of him as being part of the originals.  --James Duggan 05:09, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know. Balls een still appears in the ECW Originals entrance video. TJ Spyke 05:20, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, with the addition of CM Punk to the New Breed, they might re-add Balls to the Originals, but we'll have to wait and see.  Currently it looks like Balls is in a mini-feud with Snitsky.  --James Duggan 05:30, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Balls Mahoney

message: Shouldn't we remove their last names? I don't recall them ever having their last names mentione on TV or wwe.com. They always just say Robbie and Rory. TJ Spyke 02:44, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you ever visit the WWE website? Their last names are still on their profiles.  --James Duggan 02:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, so they are. I usually don't check the superstars page. TJ Spyke 03:02, 19 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Neither one have any real singles careers, so they don't have seperate articles. That is why, the article on the team is both of their articles. TJ Spyke 22:37, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Highlanders 

message: What happened to their pages? They used to be there... DaHumorist 1:49, 19 April 2007
They where put up for deletion and the vote was delete. I don't feel they needed a page, all that was really needed was maybe an article like "Referee's in the WWE" with the very few storylines involving them. ect. Govvy 08:38, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Chad Patton & Chris Kay

message: I'm pretty sure Roni Jonah and Melody are not under WWE contract, they are OVW students. And even if they were signed, they'd go in the OVW section, not the unassaigned section.
And what is the source for Beulah being a WWE employee? 
While I'm at it, Chris Guy went by the name Ace Steel in his appearance on DSW TV, he only used his real name when he was jobbing in dark matches.  67.23.118.230 14:14, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Both the articles that mentioned Beulah being under WWE contract and Ace Steel going under the name Chris Guy in OVW were many weeks ago. At the time these things were added to the page, the sources were listed on the history page. Finding them now, may be a task, but I have not seen any article since saying that Beulah is no longer under contract. As far as Steel, until he makes another appearance with OVW, we won't know if he's Ace Steel or Chris Guy. We'll just have to wait and see. DaHumorist 11:53, 19 April 2007
I think it was mentioned a while ago by WWE or some other souce that Beulah was still under WWE contract.  --James Duggan 00:55, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: People who aren't contracted

message: Please somebody delete Joy from the unassigned talent under the female wrestlers section, I can't edit cause I am blocked for vandalism (which I do not do; & I requested for me to unblock me cause I haven't done anything bad) she isn't under contract to the WWE. (This is JustMaria)
76.214.83.252 02:47, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joy Giovanni 

message: Justin Roberts was here in Milan, Italy for the taping but Tony Chimmel & Lillian Garcia did'nt.12.127.178.158 19:40, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2 ring announcers absent for WWE Taping, this past week 

message: Why has Palumbo been removed from the Unassigned talent. I haven't heard anything about him being released or his contract expiring. Even if it has they may be renegotiating a new one.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.49.57.74 (talk) 20:30, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chuck Palumbo 

message: I just wanted to ask why can't The Hardys be listed under both Raw & SmackDown Tag Teams. Matt is still an official part of SD and Jeff on Raw but they still compete on both brands (this weeks SD). Any thoughts on this? ---Belevsquad 02:39, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Hardys 

message: While that is his name he has been called and is listed on WWE.com only as Shad. I know it's small but I have really been bugging me. Just thought maybe we should discuss a change.
:Nobody? Nobody wants to discuss a change? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 63.3.22.129 (talk) 18:11, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: He just called himself "Shad Gaspard" during their promo on RAW. WWE seems to mix things up sometimes. Like Bboy said, they had him as "Ken Kennedy" on the site for a LONG time, even though he was known only as Mr. Kennedy since a few weeks after his debut in WWE. TJ Spyke 03:32, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shad Gaspard 

message: Why aren't they listed in ecw.com? And if they're not listed there, why should they be listed here?
If they are listed there, then Los Luchas should be listed also, because they worked a show the other day, and all other local wrestlers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Lex94 (talk • contribs) 02:31, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Majors Brothers 

message: I think we should put Ariel & Trinity under the "Other On-Air Talent" because the last time Ariel wrestle was in December & Trinity hasn't even made her debut in ECW as a wrestler just a valet....So I am going to put them in "Other On-Air Talent" simply because they aren't wrestlers they are just valets, I mean if they were "Female Wrestlers" they should have wrestle at least 4 matches already in 2007, but they haven't & just because both ladies have strong wrestling background that doesn't mean that they are female wrestlers, so I am going to moved them, this of course is open for discussion 
The female wrestlers in ECW should be called and under "ECW Vixens"
Art 281 18:18, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ECW Female Wrestlers 

message: Shawn Spears & Cody Runnels are no longer a tag team, Spears finally turned heel. And the stable with Kruel & Kozlov (and non-WWEer Strongko) is named "Team America". 76.48.117.187 22:52, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  OVW Tag Teams 

message: I think we now have parameters set for when title winning wrestlers switch brands:
Gregory Helms (Raw to Smackdown), Vince McMahon (Raw to ECW)--though as the owner he isn't tied to any one brand in actuality--, and Edge (Raw to Smackdown) all won singles titles, thus requiring to make the move, while Matt Hardy won a tag team title in a tri-brand invitational, so he is still eligible to compete as a single on his home brand.  If Matt were to somehow become, say the I-C Champ, then they would have moved him to Raw.
This works. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ohgltxg (talk • contribs) 19:50, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's now official, Edge's profile is in the SmackDown section: http://www.wwe.com/superstars/smackdown/edge/bio/. TJ Spyke 20:23, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Presedent has been set! 

message: on wwe.com it says he is only out for 6-8 weeks not 5-7 months —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 210.50.132.146 (talk) 22:20, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mr Keneddy, Keneddy 

message: I didn't want tables, no one asked for tables, tables are horrible, I was the person that asked for the flags, then Neldav decided to do it. But the tables!! They are fuggly and should be removed. They have different alignment to each other, they look horrible, makes the page look worse, horrible clumpy look. Can someone please remove those dam ugly tables!? Govvy 11:42, 11 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tables need to be removed. 

message: Two weeks in a row on Heat, folks. Just accept it. 
mms://livewms.wwe.com/heat/200705/drm-heat050407seg1_300.wmv
mms://livewms.wwe.com/heat/200705/drm-heat051107seg1_300.wmv 
Maxwell7985 10:38pm May 11, 07
Maxwell, being on Heat is not the same as being a stable on the raw roster. You keep adding them on the Raw roster. Dan Rodimer has appeared on HEAT for numerous times and you dont put him on this page. Duggan and Eugene were terminated onscreen by Eric Bischoff. They cant appear together on TV again. Lex94 11:19am May 12, 2007
Heat IS on TV outside the United States. Maxwell7985 7:37pm May 12, 2007
The point is that Heat and Raw are not the same show. Like mentioned above, there are suprstars who have appeared on Heat, which are not on the main roster. Duggan and Eugene appear on Heat together to occupy space. Chris Masters and Viscera appeared together on Heat and aren't a stable. --Lex94 02:00, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duggan and Eugene are a regular team again 

message: Kane and Boogeyman are officially tagging. Michael Cole said it himself during their match last friday (Kane w/ Boogeyman and Little Boogeyman vs. Dave Taylor w/ William Regal). I added them in stables, and it was removed. I added them again, and then someone removed Little Boogeyman from the stable. I would like to take a vote if Little Boogeyman should be included or not. --Lex94 14:19, 13 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kane and Boogeyman 

message: They have been tagging and defeating Melina and Victoria for some time now. Its been like 5 matches I think. Candice and Mickie should be a stable, so Im putting them there. 
I'm also putting Melina and Victoria
Lex94 15:22, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Candice Michelle and Mickie James 

message: Isn't Vince, Shane and Umaga a stable on the RAW brand.60.225.114.11 09:22, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vince, Shane and Umaga 

message: I spent a lot of time adding the current champions, believe me. And then you just revert it. I added them, because they are in the wwe.com roster pages. And if its good enough for the OFFICIAL WWE SITE, its good enough for us. 
Remember this roster page is a roster page for WWE, if WWE didn't exist, this wouldn't exist. So, we should base our pages off wwe's. Lex94 02:20, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Current Champions

message: Certain workers listed in "Other roles" are clearly on-air talent (i.e. Steve Austin, Mick Foley). Therefore, I think they're better suited to be listed under the "Unassigned talent" category, under their own sub-category of "Other on-air talent", similarly to how Jonathan Coachman, Teddy Long and Kelly Kelly are listed for their respected brands.
Edit: I made the change. Njgio 23:04, 16 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slight organisational change 

message: Where has it been mentioned as such? Wikipedia is the only google result for "Florida Championship Wrestling" that is for Keirn's WWE developmental fed. Not saying this is wrong, just hadn't seen it named anywhere yet... 76.50.128.75 19:22, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was reported as such in Gerweck.net a few weeks back. -凶 19:50, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Florida Championship Wrestling? 

message: is the undertaker injured or what? it said he was then later it was removed and now its back again              69.207.162.223 01:27, 20 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  injured? 

message: She's posted on her official site or MySpace page or whatever that rumours of her firing are false. So don't remove her. Njgio 03:59, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beth Phoenix 

message: I have heard people argue about whether or not to include wrestler nicknames in their space on the roster pages. I think I have a solution. It is my idea to include only the nicknames where the nickname is part of the ringname as in the ring announcement. For example Shawn Michaels is introduced as The Heartbreak Kid Shawn Michaels therefore the nickname should be included on the roster page. Conversely Kane while being associated with the nickname The Big Red Machine/Monster by announcers it is not part of his annoucement and therefore should not be included. In TNA Abyss is always announced as The Monster Abyss therefore the nickname should be included same goes for Ron The Truth Killings. Please post oppose or support and I would like admin response on this as well.69.182.244.170 20:26, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Policy Pitch On Listed Wrestler Nicknames 

message: There seems to be a small edit-battle taking place over this. We need to come to an agreement. What's everyone's stance? Gavyn Sykes 03:05, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I say alphebatical by the order they are announced or team name (when available).Freebird Jackson 22:22, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Tag Team Sorting

message: There's a lot of edit warring going on over this in various articles.
Here are the facts.
He is announced to the ring as Mr. McMahon, his HUD says Mr. McMahon.
He ALWAYS calls himself "Vincent Kennedy McMahon.
Either is fine, to be honest. Just pick one and stay with it... Gavyn Sykes 20:27, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's leave it as Vince McMahon we don't have to pay him any respect. -凶 20:30, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. He uses both names (in fact, his bio even starts "Vince McMahon".... Both are fine to use, so people shouldn't be changing it for no reason. TJ Spyke 00:03, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Vince McMahon vs. Mr. McMahon

message: Edited the OVW females roster to include all the talent located on the site. And yes, Beth Phoenix is still on thier roster.Sephiroth storm 02:59, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: OVW

message: Why are they listed as part of the Raw roster? They have never appeared on Raw, they should be off. I wont take them off myself, because then the person will just put it back, and we'll just start an editing fight. Lex94 05:59, 1 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They should be in "Other" because they have been wrestling in dark matches for all 3 brands. TJ Spyke 00:02, 2 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Chuck Palumbo should not be listed as an active member of the RAW roster. 1 Heat appearance hardly constitutes him being considered part of the main roster. He should go under Unassigned or Inactive talent until he debuts on TV.GShton 02:14, 7 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Chuck Palumbo and Dan Rodman should be on the RAW roster because if they competed on HEAT and won a match they are definitely on the RAW roster cause that's usually what happens.
"Usually" being the key word there. Not all the time. Just most of the time. Wikipedia operates on FACTS, not things that are likely to happen. Gavyn Sykes 00:15, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Would someone tell this "Ohgltxg" guy that Palumbo doesn't belong on the main roster with no Raw appearances and mentions aside from one minor Heat appearance. i'm tired of dealing with him. GShton 02:34, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't see what would be wrong with listing him under Other Talent on RAW, with "appearing on Heat" next to his name. It's a perfectly fair way, listing him both under the Raw brand, but not adding him to the full-time roster. DaHumorist 16:32, 10 June 2007
That's sounds fine to me. Gavyn Sykes 23:44, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dan Rodman and Chuck Palumbo

message: When is Mr. Kennedy coming back?
: i dont know Cradle666 14:08, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mr. Kennedy

message: where is trhe stable of kand and the boogeyman
They have stopped tagging together recently, so they were removed. Gavyn Sykes 20:42, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kane & Boogeyman 

message: this is cool! i'm writing from my wii! anyway... vince deserves a spot on this page even though he's "dead". Lex94 06:23, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vince 

message: Both Rene and Sylvan's bios say that Rene Dupree was released from the WWE. Sylvan's even says a date. I don't recall this happening. Can anyone confirm with a link? If so, we should delete Rene from the page. DaHumorist 15:50, 12 June 2007
It was never confirmed by WWE.com. And it isn't in the WWE alumini page. But it states he got released in his, Sylvan's and La Resistance's page. Chris2038win 00:55, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Any updates? Dahumorist 21:07, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rene Dupree 

message: Last night during the draft Sylvan's photo was shown on the smackdown roster. So he needs to be moved to Smackdown. Chris2038win 00:56, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sylvan on Smackdown 

message: If you looked at the SD slots you would of seen Sylvan at the very top. The top left. Chris2038win 03:32, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Get Rid Of Sylvan? 

message: During the draft, Ron Simmons was shown as part of the Raw roster. Coach said that all former world champions on the raw roster become part of the WWE VENGEANCE main event. Ron Simmons should be part of it. 
coach said it had to be a former WWE champion Ron Simmons was NWA champion not WWE.
No he said "world champion" and btw he was WCW champion the first african american to hold NWA was ron killings.
Simmons was WCW, I thought. 
Booker was never the WWE Champion either, for the record. 5 time WCW WHC and one time WHC in WWE. He's never held the actual WWE Championship belt. On that note, Lashley's only held the ECW World Title and Orton's only held the WHC.
Anyway, Coach said all former world champions would ELIGIBLE to compete, not they had would compete. If everyone was to compete in the match, it could become a mini-Royal Rumble.
On another note, please sign your posts using four tildes. (~) Gavyn Sykes 22:50, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ron Simmons 

message: I added King Booker and Queen Sharmell to the stables in the raw roster and someone took them out. please put them back. If you are doubtful because they are not a tag team, it doesnt matter, still a stable. Read stable
They're not a stable. It's noted after Sharmell's name that she is the 'Valet of King Booker.' That's enough. Gavyn Sykes 02:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Raw Royal Kingdom