Talk:Magical girlfriend

message: I have forgotten to explain the expert tag.
..I'm not really sure if it was the appropriate tag or not or if I should've used the Japan portal instead, but..
Well, basically, I believe that this  page is in need of someone who can read both Japanese and English fluently has access to more references than most of us here..
And.. yes, perhaps it would require a lot of experience editing Wikipedia because this article appears to require a lot of work.
Even the cited sources aren't that good..  Repku (talk) 19:43, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind the expert thing, but regardless, this page needs improvement.
I'm starting to wonder if we even have any good, English-language sources to create a knowledgable, well-sourced and verifiable article about this..
I think this is mostly just heresay.. How do we verify this? What reliable source ever tries to define what a magical girlfriend is? Repku (talk) 23:33, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Expert

message: I modified the "Magical Girlfriend personality" to be the "ideal girlfriend (woman) personality" based largely on the previous description. I suplemented this with what I got from message boards, such as http://www.goddess-project.net/board/index.php?showtopic=1870&hl=tale+genji which seemed to have some research behind it. However, the "ideal japanese woman" as basically a gentle, selfless, humble, capable, domestic is not as common a idealization as simply the "Moe (slang)" personality. However, if we were to change the section to simply talk about Moe girls we would be doing the work of that wikipedia entry and then the ideal/non-ideal list won't make sense as almost every girlfriend is described as "Moe." Even older leads like Mizuho of Please Teacher! (according to the Moe (slang) entry). Mizuho is certainly not the "ideal woman" however, as she is capable of doing all sorts of petty, less-than-selfless things, such as unapologetically staying out late with her colleages or leaving Kei to make & eat dinner alone when he comes late. Jaydubayubee 19:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What is the Ideal?

message: Does The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya qualify for a magical girlfriend anime, as well? --Koveras ☭ 21:09, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For that matter how is Shampoo? I know she has the curse and tendency to discover magical items (both rather commonplace), but she is not depicted as being innately more "magical" than the other, more or less, mundane characters. Jaydubayubee 04:47, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Actually I think these lists aren't encouraged on wikipedia, but I'm not touching them. I personally have nothing against stuffing helpful junk at the bottom, its more useful than annoying, people pursuing this page might find this list the most helpful bit about the page. Jaydubayubee (talk) 06:48, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Examples, What counts as Magical Girlfriend?

message: hi, i am 15, male, usa    how do i get a magical girlfriend? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 204.112.159.243 (talk) 09:31, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Try calling the Goddess Relief Line. Brutannica 06:44, 9 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, or if you can't get through, hang around some garbage dumpsters.Yanqui9 03:25, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Kissing inanimate objects has been known to bring them to life Jaydubayubee 06:48, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: They can also come out of adult videos, which is a rather unique excuse to get them Jaydubayubee 06:48, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If all else fails locate a place of supernatural or extraterrestrial activity. *WARNING* Magical girlfriend may attack upon discovery. May torch your school. May instead become your teacher. 19:57, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  how to get one? 

message: should this really be under "Magical girlfriend"? 
how about "Magical girlfriend (Anime)", 
as the page is not about simply any magickal girlfriends
from any other literature styles or such.
Liddell 23:33, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I know the term "magical girlfriend" is a term used only to refer to anime charactersJaydubayubee 04:47, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  title? 

message: I'm posting this comment here since it's inappropriate on the actual encyclopedia page. Brutannica 01:17, 24 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This section as well as that of the ideal girlfriend (given the odd title of "magical girlfriend personality") needed severe revamping, a lot was omitted and a lot of included material seemed to be describing AMG or small subsection rather than the genre. Jaydubayubee 07:57, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewriting the characteristics section

message: Belldandy is the earliest example of a ideal magical girlfriend I can find. Which is odd because Lum is a parody of the ideal girlfriend, and you can't have a parody before you have the original (Urusei Yatsura goes back to the 70's). Is there an earlier example?  Jaydubayubee 08:16, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You guys are making me feel old! Ayukawa Madoka, Kimagure Orange Road is older than AMG, but I think that the genre had to be in a classical period by then, as evidenced by UY. IMO, Minmei from Robotech's Macross Saga was the first Americanized instance of a magical girlfriend.MMetro (talk) 01:50, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I might misunderstand but I don't think those are examples of magical girlfriend. In Kimagure Orange Road Ayukawa Madoka isn't described as having powers but her counterpart Kyosuke Kasuga is. Our explanation of "magical" girlfriend is of an exotic, powers-bearing, girl paired with an ordinary male in a romantic comedy story. As such not only is Orange road a failed example but so is Macross Saga (checking the list [Elfen Lied]] isn't a romantic comedy either). I hate to say I haven't seen it but from what I see there is a Sci-Fi plot over and above the love interest, and I don't think Minmei's singing is a power. Jaydubayubee (talk) 06:51, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early Ideal Girlfriends? 

message: I'm not a fan of the second paragraph. I don't think this article should be using Wikipedia itself as a reference for the harem (genre) thing. Do we have any other references we can use? --Optichan 21:55, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: I would like to see a mention of gender reversed takes on the genre, but right now the only title I can think of is Absolute Boyfriend. Also, would anyone know if there are any same-sex versions?
--Paul Soth (talk) 11:44, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magical Boyfriend 

message: As far as stock characters go, "Magical girlfriend" does not have significant notability, since it is merely a combination of "magical girl" and "girlfriend." 
"魔法彼女" search results on Google are below 2,000 hits with most of them being instances where 魔法 is the last word in a parenthesis or a sentence (i.e. false positives).
It looks like the original author may have had "magical girl" in mind and got it wrong, and as a result the articles are needlessly separated.
—Tokek (talk) 17:05, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see my comments on the AfD discussion.  Magical girlfriends aren't usually magical girls, and magical girls who are someone's girlfriend aren't usually magical girlfriends.  Magical girl anime are usually about a mostly-normal girl with magical powers, who does things that normal girls would do while also using her magical powers (often secretly).  A magical girlfriend is a supernatural or otherwise non-normal being who magically appears and becomes the girlfriend of the protagonist of the anime, representing a form of wish fulfillment for guys (though there would be magical boyfriend anime/manga that is the equivelent genre for girls, e.g. Absolute Boyfriend). Calathan (talk) 15:12, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not notable 

message: Mention of maho kanojo, in Japanese, should be removed as the term is fake. This was detailed in the AfD and disputed by none. "Magical girlfriend" is, however, valid as a term used in English to describe an aspect of Japanese culture. —Tokek (talk) 02:55, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Maho kanojo 

message: Here's the list of possible magical girlfriends that were originally listed in the main wikipedia article but it's rather ridiculous to have   all over the place, so I'm putting them here for discussion. When a character and title has the source to confirm it belongs on the list, then you can add them back in. AngusWOOF (talk) 20:34, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magical Girlfriend or Not? List of titles to be considered 

message: Joi is a hologram, an intangible projection, not a gynoid machine. 2A01:CB0C:CD:D800:1C22:68E3:8D60:8E8A (talk) 16:15, 7 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  robots such as Joi in Blade Runner 2049 

message: Can a character be a magical girlfriend/boyfriend for some episodes, but not the entire series (for example, if someone gets powers temporarily, or if a couple gets together or breaks up)? Does the term only apply if the story focuses on the relationship(s), or can the magical girlfriend/boyfriend storyline be a subplot, maybe only involving the supporting cast (that is, not the main characters)?
Would any of the characters from Buffy the Vampire Slayer be considered magical girlfriends/boyfriends? Buffy and Angel are both "magical"; Willow is not magical at the start of the series; and not every episode is about who is or isn't in a relationship.
--173.67.42.107 (talk) 06:33, 30 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Occasionally magical girlfriends?