Talk:Nightmare

message: There was a claim in the introduction, un-cited, that "psychological nomenclature" differentiates nightmares and "bad dreams" by virtue of whether the dream may, in the right conditions, wake the dreamer. I am not aware of such nomenclature, albeit, I am not a psychologist. Jondvdsn1 (talk) 12:30, 21 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Per reference board request, removal of uncited research 

message: Why are their two different versions of the same painting? raptor 13:22, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because the artist painted two different versions. 69.9.28.7 13:29, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Come on, this is not the article for the painting, we dont need a second one.  Removed it.  99boy (talk) 05:29, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why two ? 

message: The "mare" in "nightmare" is not a female horse, but a mara, an Anglo-Saxon and Old Norse term for a female spirit that sat on sleepers' chests, causing them to have bad dreams. 
A nightmare is called a mareridt in Danish, a cauchemar in French, a pesadilla in Spanish, and an Alpdruck or Alptraum in German. The Alp is a demonic being which presses upon sleeping people so that they cannot utter a sound. These attacks are called Alpdrücke (nightmares). In Italian, the word incubo recalls the Incubus, a demon supposed to lie upon sleepers, especially women, and rape them.
: Maybe, and maybe not. There is also the traditional mari llyd of wales and another unspellable Irish skull of a horse with humans animating it, similar to the hong kong lion dancers, that is a potental source for the word. Also notice, although this citation claims it has no relation to the horse, look at the illustration used. Look to the left side. What do we see ? 
: Yes, a demon horse. A night mare. I'm not going to fight this etymology, it's too much work. But I don't accept it as the be-all and end-all of the discussion, either. 203.160.80.171 (talk) 13:10, 23 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Etymology

message: I don't want to keep clashing with [User:Jclerman|Jclerman]] here, but categorizint nightmares into :Category:Neuroscience is just too broad. In essence, just about any human event can be categorized into "neuroscience". I recategorized this into the more specific :Category:Sleep disorders. Semiconscious (talk · home) 09:34, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The nightmare (and its "menagerie" of hag, mara, incubus, succubus, and hundred of other "entities" appear to dreamers during episodes of the "nightmare (in the original, i.e. older meaning of the term as used by Johnson, Erasmus Darwin, and Fuseli)" which has been called, by Mary Shelley, "waking dream". It is considered only in a few cases a sleep disorder. Thus the entry under "notes" in the article. Jclerman 10:20, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: See references in the Hag article. Jclerman 13:44, 25 December 2005 (UTC)

text: Clearly we disagree. I'm not sure why you continue to reference Mary Shelley as though she is an expert on the matter of neuroscienctific principles. The papers you reference do not have anything to do with the folkloric creature "Nightmare". I've taken this to arbitration, so it's a moot point now. I'm sorry I'm not explaining my self in such a way as to make you truly understand what I'm trying to express. Semiconscious (talk · home) 07:43, 26 December 2005 (UTC)

text: *:Category:Psychology also makes much more sense than Neuroscience. They are different topics entirely, and this article would be more appropriate there. Semiconscious (talk · home) 20:28, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Categorization

message: In the instant that i am woken byhaha a nightmare, my first sensation besides panic, is of excessive heat. This has become such a noticable occurance that I can only conclude that the purpose of the nightmare was to wake me up to prevent damage to my body or brain. The cause of the heat was not illness but external factors, i.e. too many blankets, the heating left on, the cat sleeping on me! Thus after being woken and feeling hot, I removed the cause of the heat and returned to peaceful sleep.    
Are nightmares warnings that our brains are overheating? Is it a biological safety device? The thought intrigues me. Could we be causing the nightmares of our children and babies by trying too hard to keep them warm and tucked in at night?   Any thoughts?   144.134.135.148 02:02, 11 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While intriguing, this is known as "Original Research" and is not appropriate to include in Wikipedia.  If you can get this idea published in a mainstream journal on psychology or neuro-science and if it then becomes notable, then someone else (not you!) could reference it in the article.
---The reason you're waking up is not because of the nightmare but because your body is uncomfortable. You just happen to remember the dream *because* you woke up, not the other way around. If you slept through the nightmare, you would have woken up at your normal time and not remembered the dream. You only remember the dream because you woke up and you woke up for whatever reason, not because of the dream.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.232.12.202 (talk) 19:59, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I gotta say I remember dreams I didn't wake up from all of the time--209.181.16.93 (talk) 15:59, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nightmares: one of the bodies defence mechanisms? 

message: "(although not proven, many people believe that dying within a dream is an impossible feat, as there have never been any cases of a person reporting the feelings of the wound or disease that killed them in their dreams)"
I'm not sure what exactly counts as dying in a dream, but I once had a dream in which somebody shot me in my head (good thing it's not a premonition, yet), followed by a brief yet intense pain in my head, after which I began to faint, and my senses weakened rapidly, as if fleeing my body. I don't remember anything afterwards, which pretty much makes me good as dead. Does anybody else have a similar experience?
Maybe because we don't know what dying is like so our subconcious can't replicate it?
The reason you saw that you were shot in your sleep is that when you get hurt in your sleep the body tries to make a quick explanation for it. When you stub your toe you dont feel this because you know what happened, but since you are asleep the body will make up a story (if you have a strong imagination)such as being shot. You probably were just dehydrated.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.151.122.227 (talk) 01:53, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dying in a dream? 

message: The paragraph under the "Historic Use of term" section that lists the translation of nightmare in 17 different languages is poorly written as just listing information in a paragraph is of bad form.  Also the information to me is arbitrary.  In an article that is talking about nightmares, there doesn't need to be translations of the word into multiple languages.  So either this info should go, or it needs to be placed in a small table. Gonzo fan2007 talk ♦ contribs 01:58, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Style is in the brain of the beholder. Moreover, the translations should stay. They are not language translations but anthropologic translations, i.e., they are not strict equivalents but they name the particular regional and/or cultural dependent demons. Jclerman 03:42, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite paragraph 

message: I don't see a lot of information on the subject of vitamins related to sleep problems but luckily my wife did a lot of research on this (in her own best interest -- she was afraid I might hurt her thrashing around in bed) and she mentioned it to me. I had been taking a multivitamin every day before we were married because I didn't feel that my bachelor diet was very complete. Thankfully my wife is an excellent cook using plenty of veggies so I stopped the vitamins and my night terrors stopped immediately. Just out of curiosity I even tried taking just a half vitamin in the morning instead of night and the problems returned same day.
I used to always have a mild to extreme terror about 1.5 hours after going to sleep. I don't know exactly what vitamin/mineral was responsible for this but from what I've seen it could be Magnesium or maybe Vitamin B.
At any rate, if you suffer from Nightmares/Night Terrors do yourself a favor and stop all supplements for a few days and see if it helps.
Good Luck.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.42.80.64 (talk) 14:03, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  MultiVitamins may be causing your sleep problems 

message: I heard rumors about the origins / epistemology of Nightmares means "Night" "Mares", where people in the old days use to see scary Black Horses in their dreams (?carrying fear, ?representing fears, ?aurora of fear)and often describe as having fiery organeish burning eyes, manes and hoofs. If I remember correctly, this probably has some relevance to the headless horseman origins. 
Has anyone heard of this folklore mythology rumor before? My guess people see horses probably, because horses are common back in the old days, and psychologists says horses are very good at bonding with their riders (probably because of their intelligence and learning). But since they almost fear everything, it is a probably a natural conditioned response to have fear, when you see horses running in fear and panic.
The best picture I can find that relates to Nightmares. Though some claim they have horns, others disagree.
* Heroes Might and Magic 3  Inferno, Nightmares.
* Ghost Riders the horse rider
--75.154.186.241 (talk) 20:19, 7 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origins 

message: The first picture and its (almost comical) caption has got to go. It's what really makes this article appear to be the work of an amateur. 
"A scared child, such as those who suffer from nightmares"...seriously...
What's next? "A fat belly, as it might appear after having had too many pancakes."
The picture is neither directly linked to the article, nor is it needed (we all know what scared children look like). I suggest it is removed. The - more relevant - Fuseli painting is more than enough to illustrate this article. Andailus (talk) 20:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur, the child isn't even in bed, it has nothing at all to do with nightmares. I've removed the picture.Feyre (talk) 23:46, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  About the picture 

message: I don't see why they are defining nightmare soo loosely everyone i talk to uses nightmare and bad dreams as different with nightmares being scarier also I've been trapped in numerous nightmares not able to awaken so clearly it doesnt require waking up. --209.181.16.93 (talk) 16:03, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  definition 

message: The first reference in the page leads to an empty page.
I've noticed that the Internet Archive has the original page archived here.
I'm not familiar with protocol here; is it acceptable to use pages in the internet archive as reference sources? Tinkba (talk) 07:32, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ref #1 Stephens, Laura. (2006) "Nightmares" 

message: Surely, there are better literary references to nightmares other than Harry Potter?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.133.85.112 (talk) 13:14, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of Harry Potter as a literary reference 

message: Support - huge overlap--Zymurgy (talk) 04:31, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger with [[Treating Nightmares]]

message: Per this addition: I know that de Goya's work probably represents grief more than sleep but, wrong or right, it's still one of the most widely-recognized images within the theme. SteveStrummer (talk) 03:55, 30 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: The Sleep of Reason Produces Monsters

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message: This article has a brief section on Freud and Jung, but could say a lot more on what these two major figures said about dreams. It could, for example, say that whereas Freud saw dreams as wish fulfilment, Jung said that dreams could stem from conflicts  - indeed, J.A. Hadfield, in his book on dreams and nightmares, says that he was personally informed by Jung that a principle reason why he fell out with Freud was this difference in their interpretation of dreams, Freud stressing dreams as wish fulfilment, but Jung allowing for the possibility that dreams could be conflicts. Vorbee (talk) 15:38, 24 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Freud and Jung

message: I don't see how this odd image really helps the article. It isn't really illustrative or anything. Master of Time (talk) 04:20, 1 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:A boy having a nightmare.png]] 

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thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Research Process and Methodology - FA22 - Sect 200 - Thu

message: This is interesting: a piece of software has gotten approval as a treatment for nightmares.  It runs on a smart watch, senses through things like pulse rate that you are having a nightmare, and makes the watch vibrate on your wrist to jostle you out of the nightmare without actually waking you up.  I'd prefer a more neutral source than a press release, but the approach seems worth mentioning.  It would be helpful if sources mention anything about whether disrupting REM sleep that way has its own consequences.  I have also heard that Fitbit-like sleep trackers aren't even that reliable at detecting when a person is asleep, so specifically detecting nightmares seems like an accomplishment. 2601:648:8201:5E50:0:0:0:DD22 (talk) 21:44, 8 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apple watch