Talk:Negroid/Archive 3

message: Again, whether the term is valid today or not is irrelevant, I've added a picture which illustrates the object in question. Funkynusayri 01:53, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The term is disputed as to what it is so a picture will just cause controversy. If you have read the earlier discussions you can see that there has already been considerable controversy. If you are truly interested in building consensus I would suggest avoiding the use of pictures.Muntuwandi 02:08, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

text: It does not improve the article. I agree with Muntuwandi. The term is outdated. Swastikas, nudity still exists. This is not censorship, it's irrelevant to the article. - Jeeny Talk 05:19, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

text: To compare this article with the flat earth article is apples and oranges, come on. The flat earth article shows an image that was made up in one's mind. Your image shows real people. It is your POV that that image represents what Negroid meant way back when, but that image says "African types", not Negroid. So, it's your POV that those people where and are concidered Negroid. There are no images that support the flat earth article, other than an imaginary rendering. - Jeeny Talk 05:41, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The term is disputed and discredited so we should avoid using photos. In particular the stereotypical ones you suggest. In any case the caption says African types not Negroid. that is original research.Muntuwandi 03:18, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

text:  Nonsense, more creative trolling. Those are some of the most ignorant statistics I have ever seen. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Muntuwandi (talk • contribs)  
*What the heck? That's what people thought in 1914, and that's the book the image is from, a book which has been on commons since 2005. I have provided a historical image of what people believed to be "Negroid" back when the term was used, and I have verified that the book it is from describes them as such. Why all this desperate, childish nonsense? Lack of arguments? Are you really that riled up that you forgot to sign your message?Funkynusayri 04:16, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

text:  Yes it is disappointing to spend wikitime dealing with trolls.Muntuwandi 04:20, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't need a picture to show what Negroid represents. It is your POV that thinks the image reflects the article. There is no need for pictures in this particluar article. It's plainly in the text. It does not help the article at all. I don't understand your reasoning that the image needs to be in the article to help people understand the term, and to leave it out is censorship? And please be civil and not call people hysterical, not normal, and insane for not understanding your POV. - Jeeny Talk 04:34, 1 August 2007 (UTC)

text: It is helpful because it illustrates the term in question. That's the norm on Wikipedia, the subject of the article usually has an image which is relevant to the article. The image I've found on Commons is pretty much synonymous with this article. The accompanying article describes the people on it as "Negroids", it is not "my POV" that they are described such. The only reason I can see for not including it is because it might be offensive. But then again, Wikipedia isn't censored. What is your agenda? What does this mean: "There is no need for pictures in this particluar article. It's plainly in the text." Should "plain" Wikipedia articles be image free?
As for civility, did you just ignore Muntuwandi clearly calling me a troll, posting two pictures of "trolls", without even signing his post? That's why I called him hysterical, could you please try to be objective? Who called anyone "insane" and "not normal"? Could you please stop accusing me of saying things I never did? Funkynusayri 04:40, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The picture says african types. What that means with regard to this article I have no ideaMuntuwandi 23:39, 17 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Then clarify it in the caption. Or it's out again. - Jeeny Talk 02:29, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do it yourself. The relivat pages are here and here.Geni 13:32, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
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