Talk:Nordic cross flag

message: Where does the Newfoundland flag fit into all of this?  Meaning the newer official flag, not the pink, white, and green.  It looks quite a bit like the Nordic Cross, as its cross is a bit off-center.
Also there used to be a section called something like "Nordic flags without the Nordic Cross" but it's not there anymore.  I could have sworn that, in some version not too long ago, it pointed out how the Greenland and Sami flags have an off-center circle instead of a cross. Squidfryerchef 04:13, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Newfoundland, Greenland, and Sami 

message: I have added several Norwegian flags for which I could not find images in Commons.
:*Flag of the Chief of Defence.
:*Flag of the Norwegian Postal Service. (should be capital letters only)
:*Flag of the Norwegian Customs Service.
:*Flag of the Royal Norwegian Yacht Club.
:*Flag of Nasjonal Samling.
:*Flag of Hirdmarinen.
If anyone feel up to it they could upload them. -- Nidator T / C 16:26, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Norwegian flags 

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message: Read Scania and you see that it states: '[The flag has been] used by Skåne Regional Council since 1999.' Wouldn't this mean that the flag actually is official? Or is the issue that the flag traditionally stands for the province of Scania, but is currently used officaly only by the county of Scania? Yenx (talk) 12:29, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know what it takes to make it official but according to the Swedish article it's also registered in something called "Skandinavisk vapenrulla". It also says that it was officially adopted by the Scanian Regional Council in 1999. But maybe official in this article means that it has to be approved by the Swedish government? I think clarification is needed here. /Jiiimbooh (talk) 19:20, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The flag is offically adopted by Skåne Regional Council - but as far as I can tell, formally only as a flag for the Regional Council and its sphere of activities: public healthcare system, public transport and co-ordination of development of commerce, communication and culture. As a flag for the whole of the province, it is still unofficiall. /B****n (talk) 10:56, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Region Skåne, which is one of the 21 County Councils of Sweden, has decided to use the flag on some occasions, always together withe the national flag and the region's own heraldic banner. But it is not on their web site  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vedum (talk • contribs) 20:00, 5 October 2008 (UTC)

text: (It was a mistake, the comment was not finished). In most cases they use a logotype.  --Vedum (talk) 20:09, 5 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the Scanian flag unofficial? 

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message: Should Brazilian towns have there own section? Are they Nordic crosses or just offset crosses? Don't we want to limit these, or are we going to index all offset crosses in the world. For the non Nordic-related crosses, a few examples would suffice... Hrcolyer (talk) 14:25, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Such a section has been made at some point, the BR flags were left out in their own section. I've moved them under "random nordic cross-like flags" since that seems to be what they are. All of the other sections (German, British, Ethnic, Baltic) have some text and claim to actually being Nordic crosses rather than simply a visually identical design element. --Belg4mit (talk) 20:47, 27 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see any explanation, here or in the Míkmaq article, as to that flag's connection to the Nordic cross. It seems to me that the historical derivation and intent are key; the concept here is ethnic or historical connection, not coincidental similarity of graphic design. Unless there's some information of substance, let the "random nordic cross-like flags" be removed. Spark240 (talk) 15:18, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nordic cross or similar design? 

message: Shouldn't some reorganisation be done. In particular, the following should be moved, no?
Flag of the Danish monarch, flown in his capacity as Duke of Holstein until 1863 and Schleswig until 1864.[2] => Should be note next to Danish flag
Unofficial flag of Swedish-speaking Finns => under Finland
Unofficial flag of the Scanian lands (southern Sweden) => under Sweden
Unofficial flag of Småland (no actual use recorded) => under Sweden
Unofficial flag of Götaland, or alternatively Östergötland => under Sweden
Unofficial flag of West Sweden[3] => under Sweden
It would be more interesting to separate the actual Nordic flights from the 'coincidental' similarities. For example, among others, the Norman flag, and Wilmington one should be with the Nordic flags, rather than stuck between Brazilian cities and Tbilissi (which are curiosities, using the graphical effect of the Nordic cross, although this is not a Nordic cross). In particular Normandy and others such as Baltic, German and UK sections should be nearer the top as they are a direct heritage of Nordic/Viking pasts...
Am I the only one who feels that being able to easily tell which flags have a Nordic Cross should be quite important :p? Hrcolyer (talk) 14:43, 26 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorganising 

message: Can we remove these? Or at least, the non-notable ones? It seems the great majority are just original creations of editors and appear no where else, except on Wikipedia. Hayden120 (talk) 11:35, 25 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think some of them ought to be removed as well.--Brianann MacAmhlaidh (talk) 07:07, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unofficial flags 

message: I don't think "cross flag" should redirect here; I came here looking for information on British Isles cross flags. 67.177.215.58 (talk) 21:02, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Cross flag" redirect 

message: : Royal standard of Sweden with the lesser coat of arms (the royal house using the greater coat of arms)
What's a royal standard if it is not used by the royal house? —Tamfang (talk) 20:06, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  royal but not ''that'' royal 

message: The recently added information that a Scandinavian cross flag is basically a gonfalon is tagged as needing citation. A citation to confirm that statement would be hard to find. It is commonly assumed that the first documented use of Dannebrog, the oldest Scandinavian cross flag, is to be seen in the great union seal of king Eric of Pomerania. It is depicted as a regular flag flown from a vertical pole held by the three lions of the Danish arms. The gonfalon information seems to deserve deletion. Roede (talk) 15:28, 27 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gonfalon 

message: Where does this flag come from? Who submitted it? Who proposed/drew it? Has it ever been used? --Tlauen (talk) 13:19, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scandinavian Flag? 

message: How about adding some of them?
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20080605002133/uncyclopedia/images/8/80/Flag_of_Svalbard.PNG - This one is actually VERY popular, at least on the internet. But I have no idea who created it, you can find some entries with it on google images.
http://www.penguinpride.com/i08/svalbard1.jpg - Recently I have found this one, reminds me of proposed Estonian flag... I prefer the first black flag (because is unique), but at least for this one you can find a source: http://www.penguinpride.com/2009/05/13/flag-of-svalbard/
There is also something like this: http://images.wikia.com/cybernations/images/1/1c/Flag_of_the_Union_of_Svalbard.svg , used by some cyber-nation/microstate (?) http://cybernations.wikia.com/wiki/Union_of_Svalbard , but map flags are just absolutely disgusting and recognised as a blasphemous heresy in the vexicology (that's why I support Serbian rights to Kosovo province and North Cyprus right to secession).
Some another propositiom http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/images/s/sj-prop.gif (source: http://www.crwflags.com/fotw/flags/sj-arms.html ) but I don't like it to be honest, too Luxembourg-looking. You can find similar pattern used in the previous entry.
Oficially Svalbard uses flag and coat of arms of Norway (which is quite... strange), that's why all these flags are just proposed.
I hope my propositions will be considered, cheers!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.79.183.108 (talk) 20:20, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Svalbard is a part of Norway. All Norwegian Subdivisions use the Norwegian flag. All flags claiming to be unofficial flags of Svalbard are pure internet fantasies and have no connection to the real life place of Svalbard. Fantasy flags should not be included here and wikipedia should not contribute to their proliferation as it only serves to confuse those who look to this web page for facts. Some flag proposals who are documentet to have been real contenders when a country adopted a new national flag could be concidered, but not the thousands of internet fantasies out there.Inge (talk) 12:46, 20 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Svalbard Unnoficial Flags 

message: Just noting that the Church of Sweden uses this flag (also here). It appears to be a quite recent thing (Swedish text, pdf). 83.241.146.106 (talk) 08:01, 9 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: this does not appear to be a Nordic cross design. --dab (𒁳) 12:46, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Church of Sweden 

message: Obviously, the cross dates to the Crusades, but the Nordic cross is defined as the cross with its center shifted hoistward.
The question of when this originated pretty much boils down to the question when the flags became rectangular.
It appears to be quite clear that the Nordic cross is a "rectangularised" version of the triple-tailed flag, which itself seems to date to the 1660s or so. But a triple tailed flag, where the central tail prolongs the horizontal arm of the cross, doesn't really amount to a "Nordic cross": the "Nordic cross" emerges as soon as you turn a triple-tailed flag into a rectangular one. 
A rectangular flag was introduced for as Danish civil ensign in 1748, and for the Sweden-Norway union in 1818.
So I suppose we must conclude, pending further evidence, that the first Nordic cross is that of the Danish civil ensign introduced 1748, and that Sweden-Norway following suit in a complicated history of revisions in the 19th century, leading to the modern Scandinavian flags by the early 20th century. --dab (𒁳) 12:46, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Historical origin

message: Some of the words in the table layout in Ethnic flags break strangely, leaving the last letter on the next line, couldn't fix them. Janke | Talk 08:13, 2 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Word breaks 

message: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayam%C3%B3n,_Puerto_Rico#/media/File:Flag_of_Bayamon.svg  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:702:8000:F230:45C:6D6C:3D27:E93B (talk) 23:48, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Already listed at #United States. SiBr4 (talk) 06:15, 27 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  just found a pretty obvious nordic cross in puerto rico 

message: Does the flag of the province of Groningen in the Netherlands qualify? The Seventh Taylor (talk) 17:52, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: No; that flag has a symmetric cross, not a Nordic one (which would have the vertical bar off-center). SiBr4 (talk) 20:56, 18 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Groningen (province) 

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message: At the top of the article is an image captioned "Swallowtail Nordic/Scandinavian cross". This shows the special swallowtail used by Sweden, Norway and Finland, with an extra tongue in the middle. However, Denmark and Iceland use the more common two tongue format. --Klausok (talk) 10:21, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Swallowtail 

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