Talk:Boise State Broncos football

message: Boise State Football....what to say about the tragic events that befell the team of 1973?
Willy VanPopple, God rest his soul, was the heartbeat of the 1973-74, Boise State Broncos. Willy, or, 3-inch, as his girlfriend called him, was referred to as, "3-inch," due to his proclivity to his favorite bubble gum, Big Red.
Willy had a penchant for popping his tasty bubble gum treat, right before kickoff at both the start of the game and halftime. Here was the problem: The amount Willy insisted on "chewing." You see, Willy had a problem with keeping his hands to himself. He wasn't like "canceled" weird about anything, it was more like, don't say anything provocative around Willy, or things are going to get really uncomfortable......ugh, 
My attorney just advised me that I shouldn't type anything else.....
BOOOOOOO, Attorneys!!!! Am I right?
Anyway, God bless Willy and his fight in Boise. May the the squandered squalor the brilliant.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:1010:B167:2868:31C4:8080:98B2:9C28 (talk) 04:00, 30 October 2023 (UTC)

message: I don't think we should change "Career Records" until their career is over...See Ian Johnson...Mjquin_id (talk) 05:46, 28 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Career Records

message: Boise State did not win the conference championship in 2007. That was Hawaii. I edited it out.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.161.138.240 (talk) 06:29, 29 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Conference Championships

message: It appears that someone has been editing the results of Boise State's various Bowl games over the years to make Boise appear better than they actually were. I fixed many of the errors, but there are still more that I did not feel like going into. The article currently says that Boise State won the 2001 Rose Bowl, when the team has never played in a Rose Bowl game. I suggest that this article be reviewed by someone who knows the history of the team a little better than I do, but it is readily apparent that some overzealous fans of the school have some issues facing reality.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.101.154 (talk) 06:57, 3 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Inaccurate Bowl Results

message: Boise State was never in the Football Championship Subdivision. They were in Division I-AA. It wasn't renamed as the FCS until well after Boise moved to Division I-A (now Football Bowl Subdivision). The name changes were not retroactive, and should not be treated as if they were in the article. 75.76.213.106 (talk) 22:50, 24 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Football Championship Subdivision? 

message: Someone insists on adding informationabout Boise State having an argument to claim the National Championship in 2006 and 2010. I think it is very inaccurate and arrogant to add that information. Yes, we were the only ones undefeated in 2006, but just saying that we have the right to claim a title dosent make it true. Yes it sucks that we have the system that we do and that we don't get a chance at the NC, but we shouldn't just complain about it, especially in the opening of this page. It just makes it seem like we are complaining instead of highlighting what we have accomplished. Bsuorangecrush (talk) 06:12, 9 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: National Championship argument

message: It would be prudent to remove Idaho as a rival until such time where BSU is playing Idaho again and are considered to be on the same competing level. 96.18.238.19 (talk) 03:46, 1 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Idaho still rivals? 

message: Why is over half of the article in an unreadable and obnoxious orange? Isn't there a policy against this? 97.121.57.244 (talk) 15:51, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  orange text 

message: I deleted a few players that as of this date are not signed to an NFL team.  I noticed after the fact that there is a "notable former players" section.  Should those players have been moved there, instead?  Some of the players currently in that section don't seem that "notable" to me.  Jared Zabransky?  Sure; he was on the cover of a video game.  Kyle Brotzman?  Ok, his missing of field goals were kind of a big deal to a couple of different Bronco seasons.  But what about guys like Alex Guerrero?  Should a guy be notable because they signed to an NFL team in the offseason and never went anywhere?
BrettxPW (talk) 18:31, 5 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of former players no longer on an NFL roster 

message: BYU and San Diego State ARE NOT!! Boise State's rivals. Just because they are the closest team regionally to Boise and their are future games schedule does not make them a rival! Only 5 total games have been played agaist these two opponents, it is very premature addint them as a rival so DO NOT!! list them as a rival until a rivalry exists. As for listing others as discontinued is not accurate, the word you are looking for is dormat, but you don't have to play a team for a rivalry to exist. Idaho is still Boise State's main rival wheather they play or not. Also, Boise State did not get the TCU game moved, the Mountain West moved that, the Broncos have NOTHING to do with conference scheduleing. As for the thing about Petersen voting them lower, WHO CARES?!? It's totally his opinion and he can do whatever he wants in his poll and had no bearing on the rivalry. 
The all time seasons should not be listed on this page. Lots of teams have their seasons listed on seperate pages. If it is listed here then there is absolutly no reason for the other page to exist because it would be redundent to have the exact same thing on 2 pages like that. Just leave the link, if someone really wants to know their alltime season records they will click the link.Bsuorangecrush (talk) 01:13, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no history with BYU or San Diego State. To list them as rivals just because the are regional and we play them in future years is beyond stupid. We might aswell list all the teams that are in our division in the Big East aswell, that would make as much sense. With TCU there is a lot of hisotry. broncocountry.com is just a recruiting website, its not the end all be all on Boise State history. Ive had season tickets for 15 years and can tell you that for now the ARE NOT!! our rivals, add the info in the future if it becomes relevnt.Bsuorangecrush 
(talk) 15:19, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for not even reading my argument before changing it back. And pointing out miss spelling just proves you think you are just perfect!Bsuorangecrush (talk) 15:42, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: why do you care so much? Are you a Boise State fan? True, this is not a fan page, but lies shouldn't be posted here either. SDSU and BYU are not rivals. They should not be considered rivals simply because we have played close games with them recently, we play them in the future, and they are somewhat regional does not make them rivals. We have little to no history with either of these teams, until we do they are not rivals. As for future games, even BYUs coach has said the 10 year series is to long and it probably won't all happen. And conference realignment is not over so that 10 most likely wont happen. They may become rivals, but they should not be listed as rivals based on future speculation. Your argument of one website has them listed as rivals is not valid. Plus, why do you think they were not listed as rivals before you showed up? It was not an oversight, they were not there because they should not have been there. DO NOT add them as rivals without a more valid argument. Bsuorangecrush (talk) 16:36, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rivalries and seasons 

message: Of course Idaho is our main rival, no argument against that. Nevada is number 2, history proves that. Fresno is number 3, the fact that they invented a trophy for it proves that. Hawaii I will not argue for. We played 2 close games with them in 2004 and 2005 and accuracy nerds like you added it to the page and it stuck. We are not rivals with Hawaii but I've already had that fight so I leave it. TCU was a rival, I'd say for only a 3 year span, but its mostly just because of bowl games and polls, but it was such a large part of our history during a changing landscape of college football that they should be added. A couple of close games against teams we have only played a combined 5 times and the fact that a couple of them were close and the fact that we play them in the future is not enough! Ask a byu fan or an sdsu fan, none would list bsu as rivals. Rivals need to be built on history, not speculation. We could easily start a rivalry with any team in the big east just as we did with Fresno when we joined the WAC, but we shouldn't include them just because it may be a rivalry in the future. I am just as much as an accuracy nerd as you, and I enjoy you passion, and I know this is not my page but its not yours either! They are not our rivals and it is a flat out lie to say that they are. If a team being regional was all it took then Utah state would have been a rival but they never were. It is far to early to consider these teams rivals and it is inaccurate to include them in the rivals list. Bsuorangecrush (talk) 18:21, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I am fully against their inclusion at this time. However, if they are to be included I think the headers should just be removed all together. Discontinued sounds to final, like there is no chance it could ever happen again, but I don't like developing either. I would say list them in the order of Idaho, Nevada, Fresno, Hawaii (or just get rid of Hawaii, I don't think anyone would notice or care), TCU, San Diego State ( above byu because they are actually a conference member), then byu. I don't see the need for any distinction between active discontinued or developing especially when the table lists the last time they met and the last sentence of everyone says that there are no future games schedule (for the ones that applys to).Bsuorangecrush (talk) 19:28, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't like prospective because that's to broad. Like I said before, we could end up rivals with any team in the big east just like we did we Fresno in the WAC. I would just list them, with the table at the top people could quickly figure out who we have played recently. Bsuorangecrush (talk) 19:56, 14 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  So you won't have trouble finding his one... 

message: I know the rivalries section is the most controversial section on this page, but what do you think about the following teams as "other notable opponents":
*Idaho State - in-state game, former conference foes, first played in 1934
*College of Idaho - easily the closest opponent ever, first played in 1933, was the year-end game for BSC in the late 60/early 70s before the Idaho series started
*SICE/NICE - formerly were yearly in-state games during the JC years
*Weber - Boise's most-played series (when including the JC years) and the only team it shared a conference with at both the JC and NCAA level
I'm just thinking about ways to balance the rivalries section so that it's not so biased toward the modern day. There are other dormant rivalries that were clearly important in the past but have been forgotten over time. Obviously none of these would be considered major, but I think they could at least warrant a mention to add a little historical balance. ApolloVI (talk) 11:57, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Rivals - Idaho State, C of I, SICE/NICE, Weber? 

message: into smaller eras and having a paragraph or two on each of the mini-eras.  I'm not sure if this is the best way to split Boise's history, but here are my suggestions for the chapters of Boise State's football history.
(1) The JUCO era
(2) The Tony Knap Years
(3) From Setencich through Allen
(4) Boise Transitions to FBS
(5) Hawkins and new Heights for Boise State
(6) Perfection under Petersen
Anyways, name them whatever you want or divide the history differently if you'd like.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Veritas KGB (talk • contribs) 18:37, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need to Improve the Boise State History Section 

message: I see that Titus Young has been removed from the current NFL players section for what I can see was good reason. Should we add him back to something else like other notable football players? Seems kind of a waste to just remove him. OrangeJacketGuy (talk) 18:40, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Titus Young removal 

message: The section regarding the non-active rivalry between BSU and UI could use some more material as to why it is not happening anymore (at least with Football). I could find a few articles/sources, write something, and run it by here for approval, and then add it, but I want to see if others here will disagree if such material should be added or have any opinion as far as sources are concerned. Anyone have any thoughts on this? OrangeJacketGuy (talk) 18:56, 22 July 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Hearing no objection or any discussion at all over this, I'll be finding some references and writing the necessary material at some point in the near future and running it by here before inclusion. OrangeJacketGuy (talk) 22:51, 18 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  RE: Reasons for refusing home-and-home with Idaho 

message: Hi, sorry I'm not an expert at wikipedia editing, so I apologize if this isn't the correct place for this. I'm a Michigan football fan, so I've been keeping an eye on the race for the top spot at the end of the year. I think it's going to be really close. It's a very interesting scenario between Boise State, Michigan and Ohio State. I was compiling the numbers by starting from the official NCAA records from the end of 2018 (http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/football_records/2019/FBS.pdf) and adding in the current records. That shows Boise State's record as 448-168-2 at the end of last year. If we add in this year's record of 12-2, shouldn't the current record be 460-170-2? This page currently lists it at 461-169-2. Just curious what the difference is.
For anyone who's interested, here are possible end-of-season scenarios:
     	won	lost	tied	games	pct       	
Boise	448		168		2  		618 		0.726537217		After 2018
     	12 	2   	    	     	          	
     	460	170 	2   	632  	0.72943038	After 2019
Mich 	953		342		36 		1331		0.729526672		After 2018
     	9  	3   	    	     	          	
     	962		345		36 		1343		0.729709605		2019 Current
     	10 	3   	    	     	          	
     	963		345		36 		1344		0.729910714		2019 After Bowl Victory
     	9  	4   	    	     	          	
     	962		346		36 		1344		0.729166667		2019 After Bowl Defeat
Ohio 	911	325 		53 		1289		0.727307991		After 2018
     	13 	0   	    	     	          	
     	924		325		53 		1302		0.730030722		2019 Current
     	13 	1   	    	     	          	
     	924		326		53 		1303		0.729470453		2019 After Semi Defeat
     	14 	0   	    	     	          	
     	925		325		53 		1303		0.730237913		2019 After Semi Victory
     	14 	1   	    	     	          	
     	925		326		53 		1304		0.729677914		2019 After Final Defeat
     	15 	0   	    	     	          	
     	926		325		53 		1304		0.730444785		2019 After Final Victory
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— Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.149.106.56 (talk) 14:39, 27 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a discrepancy between certain sources for what Boise State's all-time record is. What it boils down to is a 1997 game against Cal State Northridge. Boise State lost the game on the field, but later on Northridge forfeited the game due to playing some ineligible players. According to NCAA rules (check out page 24), you're supposed to switch forfeits from losses into wins (in a vacated win scenario, which is what ordinarily happens in these cases, the win disappears for the vacator but the loss sticks for their opponent). So the record on this page reflects that game as a win, and Boise State's media guide reflects that game as a win. However, the NCAA's record book still counts it as a loss, presumably because they assumed Northridge vacated their win rather than forfeited their win. Of course it may be just a case of the terminology being reported wrong and Northridge actually did vacate the win rather than forfeit. I'm hoping that the issue is settled some time this off-season. ApolloVI (talk) 11:17, 5 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  All time record 

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