Talk:Jonestown/Archive 5

message: made a few edits to clean up grammar or to increase clarity. rather than put a reason for each one I'll just explain them here. i didn't change the intent of any statement. i also added a tag for in-line citations, because there are very few.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.182.136.11 (talk) 18:13, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: made a few edits

message: The name is introduced here as a possible CIA operative. But neither here nor in Peoples Temple is there any explanation of who he was and what role he is known to have played in relation to the cult. Can someone who knows the story add this info? --Alvestrand 06:33, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Almost nothing.  He worked in the US embassy in Guyana.  He was one of the members of the Ryan delegation to Jonestown.  Great obsession has occurred with him by the conspiracy generating crowd because Jones, in his slurred speech, is heard stating repeating that they should get Dwyer out of there, and when someone responds in a confused manner, Jones repeats that he means Dwyer.  In reality, Dwyer was shot in the buttocks at the Port Kaituma airstrip.  Given the apparent confused reaction to Jones commands about Dwyer, Jones was likely confusing someone else (maybe Garry) for Dwyer.  Dwyer may well have also been a member of the CIA, but that would be hardly surprising for an embassy worker in semi-hostile country with ties to the Soviet Union.  In fact, it would be more surprising if it had turned out that no one in the embassy had CIA connections.  All of which are realistically irrelevant to Jones "Red Brigade" killing people at the airstrip, and the mass cyanide ingestion in Jonestown on November 18. Mosedschurte (talk) 22:14, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Richard Dwyer? 

message: The second sentence of the article tails off, incomplete, before the (presumably) next one, which begins with 'Early reports ...' Although I've read this incomplete bit several times, I can't figure out what it is saying, so hesitated to try and edit. Ironical, considering the topic! Can anyone clarify? Thanks. whitestarlion (talk) 18:05, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Second sentence ? 

message: I'm not familiar enough with the subject matter to even begin to attempt to fix this, but I have read this article. I still don't know WHAT the conspiracy is. The introduction should summarize what the conspiracy theory theorizes. One or two sentences at the start that explain what the theory alleges occurred. Could someone more familiar with the subject matter take a stab at this? Lot 49atalk 17:51, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please fix the introduction 

message: This: "Let's ignore all the other possible alternative explanations for the events of Jonestown, and focus on just one man,"
seems excessively narrative for wikipedia.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.197.7.22 (talk) 16:33, 23 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV vs narrative prose 

message: I removed this since it had no references,NPOV problems and original research. [] Bhny (talk) 21:15, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theories section 

message: Do those of you familiar with the main Jonestown article's history remember the mention of a CIA log from early morning the day after the event?  There was a link to the scanned image of the log where the Jonestown event was noted down at a point in the early morning well before the suicides/murders were officially discovered.  That mention of the log eventually disappeared from the main Jonestown article and never made it to this conspiracy article.  Does anyone know why?  Was the scan of the log unverified?  Thanks!  --Sephiroth9611 (talk) 15:42, 5 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  CIA document from an old version of main article 

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