Talk:Neighborhoods of Kansas City, Missouri

message: However not all of these are "notable". Maybe this'll give us something to start to discuss, however.
Okay, so our list is more like 233 groups, today... -- nae'blis 21:15, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: P.S. Those 233 aer our "Active" status groups, not brand new ones and not defunct ones, so it will necessarily differ from the list we currently have in the article. Another option is http://www.kcmo.org/planning.nsf/web/reports which lists those groups/areas for which an official "assessment" was done for the FOCUS project (this would be a subset of the 3rd list above). That might count as a "independent reliable source" (not sure), with the caveat that several neighborhoods were combined for size reasons into a single report, and some of the really large ones, like Ivanhoe, were split for the opposite reason. -- nae'blis 21:29, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: edit title

message: ::Wow. Nifty little javascript.  Didn't know about that one!  I should be careful about what I asked for.  The original list in the article looks pretty good in comparison.  Your list is definitely helpful in making sure we catch the ones that are notable.  In any event this list goes back to my argument that this article should be called List of neighborhoods in Kansas City, Missouri.  The neighborhoods that I was most interested in that brought me here (18th and Vine, Quality Hill, Downtown) are not on this list.  In most places neighborhoods are usually not defined by any government entity and so the free form list actually works.  The registered part confuses things.  Thanks again for the posting the list!   Americasroof 21:35, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I think I saw Quality Hill floating around the other day. 18th & Vine definitely needs  an article if it doesn't have one, though I'm not sure what name to put it under. Another possibility would be to limit the list to those with multiple instances of media coverage (Ivanhoe), historic district (Garment District?) status, or mentions in books (Westport, etc). Still rolling this around in my head... also, I notice there's precedent in :Category:Neighborhoods in the United States that we could emulate, for further navigational aid. In no way do I think all 200+ on my list deserve inclusion. One question would be whether to include KS-side/suburban neighborhoods of special note (might keep us from proliferating sublists for Independence, NKC, Overland Park, etc). -- nae'blis 22:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the list as is is good now.  It catches everything that I might write to.  If it doesn't, it can be created.  Quality Hill and 18th and Vine are national register historic sites.  Both have articles.  It's the "registered" I don't like (and complaining about it was my main reason for wondering into this discussion).  Registered implies government sanctioned, sponsorshipship and control.  Neighborhoods are much more nebulous than that.  So I still urge going to the neighborhood convention used in other cities List of neighborhoods in Kansas City, Missouri.  Americasroof 22:40, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, agreed. At this point I'm just wondering if a more nebulous List of neighborhoods in the Kansas City area would be more appropriate for a retitle. -- nae'blis 22:45, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: To see some of the naming conventions do a search on "List of neighborhoods"   This article shouldn't go down the slippery slope of trying to take on the entire metro area.  The most notable neighborhoods are mostly south of the river.  KCK has some notable neighborhoods but they should be in their own article.  Likewise Overland Park neighborhoods could be in their own article.  Offhand I can't think of notable neighborhoods in the other burbs except possibly in Independence.  Americasroof 23:50, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: notable

message: Also, before doing anything major with this page I wanted to see the outcome of Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Medina neighborhoods - turns out it was no consensus, which gives work on this page a decent chance of surviving. I'll revise the page list a bit later, gotta work for now... -- nae'blis 16:12, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Of note 

message: The list says "The City of Kansas City, Mo. boasts hundreds of registered neighborhood organizations. The type of neighborhood organization varies throughout the city. Most of the organizations fall into four categories: neighborhood associations, homeowners associations, block clubs, and  service organizations." 
I have heard nothing from the group that covers my area in the seven years I've lived here. Either they are defunct or they are representing me without my knowledge. --Gbleem 22:15, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  groups v. neighborhoods 

message: This page and all the pages for the individual neighborhoods are pretty hard to parse without a map, if you don't happen to already know ever part of the city by heart.  Someone that is: A: familiar with the subject and B: gifted enough to come up with a nice SVG that can be zoomed in and zoomed out to clearly mark specific neighborhoods on each of their pages - would you mind doing just that?  MrZaiustalk 20:45, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Image requests

message: There's a big move afoot to standardize the neighborhood articles across Wikipedia.  This article should only be about Kansas City, Missouri.  Kansas City, Kansas goes its own article.  I have added the standardized categories so you can see what's going on (a hierarchy of country to state to city)Americasroof 02:23, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, I’ll make the change if nobody has any objections? Also, this may be the oldest commment I’ve ever replied to. Grey Wanderer (talk) 02:33, 23 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: This should only be [[Neighborhoods in Kansas City, Missouri]]

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