Talk:National Democracy (Poland)

message: It would appear in Poland there was never a political party called National Democratic Party (Partia Narodowo-Demokratyczna), instead, there was a political movement National Democrats (Narodowa Demokracja, endecja), which spawned various political parties. Thus endecja is an equivalent of sanacja, but not Bezpartyjny Blok Współpracy z Rządem. Considering this article was created as a vandalism with meaningless content, I think there should be no objections if I move it to endecja. It should go nice with sanacja.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 01:45, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Party?

message: The original polish article is currently being disputed so should be this straight on translation. The artcle tends to present the National Democrat movement in most favourable way and omitting several importand facts from its history. Here are few examples of facts or ideas not mentioned in the article: nationalism, antisemitsm, loyality policies toward imperial Russia prior to 1917, murder of the president Narutowicz etc, etc. --213.200.154.74 19:18, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: POV

message: I believe "National Democracy" is too broad a term for this article. The title ought to be either "National Democracy Movement" or "National Democratic Movement".
--A.Molnar (talk) 01:26, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this more popular in the literature?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  02:36, 7 November 2008 (UTC)

text: If it can be demonstrated that the Italian context is as popular, this article may be moved to National Democracy (Poland).--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  07:18, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "National Democracy (Italy)" existed only 1977–79.  Nihil novi (talk) 09:24, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Do we need the movement (and at the very least it would be lowercase - National Democracy movement or National Democratic movement? The article on US Christian right is at "Christian right",  not Christian right movement. There is communism, but no communist movement, and so on. Per Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names), and search for common names (650 for Poland "National Democracy" -movement vs 26 for Poland "National Democracy movement", I think current name is the best (most popular and accurate).--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  17:49, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  We have no justification to expand the original name.  Nihil novi (talk) 06:07, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: PS. Poland "National Democratic movement" does give 313 hits, so it is not unpopular, but doesn't seem more popular than "National Democracy", so I see no grounds for change (but enough grounds for some redirects/disambigs, which I created).--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  18:28, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing article name 

message: clarification please (i also tend to doubt NPOV status) 09:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  quote"Imperial Germany's policy of Germanizing its Polish territorial holdings." 

message: The described conflict was around 1920 but is described after 1935 facts. It's innacceptable.Xx236 (talk) 08:57, 31 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Timing 

message: Re: . Miacek, the issue is discussed above. There is rough consensus that some of this info should go into the article text but not the lede. You'have been reverting several editors for weeks and after it was clear that your additions did not have consensus you stopped for awhile. Then you resumed the edit war recently, apparently in the hope that no one would notice. 
Please stop adding POV material without consensus.Volunteer Marek 16:39, 23 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  restarting a slow moving edit war 

message: It's listed as an ideology in the top infobox and the article also says "Simultaneously the ND emphasized its anti-Semitic stance, intending to exclude Jews from Polish social and economic life and ultimately to push them to emigration out of Poland." Shouldn't this party be put in the Antisemitism in Poland category?
Suomi13 (talk) 12:06, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Well it could but so could be any other Polish politicial parties in the Second Polish Republic. After all, it was all Polish parties that voted in 1939 in Sejm to strip Jewish MPs of their mandates and called for emigration of Jews from the country. The category fits more to some political parties of ND ideological stream, e.g. National Radical Camp. The ND as a movement was diverse in many ideological stances.--Darwinek (talk) 23:25, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

text: Are we sure it was ALL political parties? Including the Socialists and the various Jewish and ethnic minority parties?
And while I'm sure the party had non-antisemites, remember that some of the Righteous Among Nations were Nazi Party members too. How many non-antisemites must a group have before it no longer fits the antisemitism label? 
I'm sorry, I'm a bit new to Wiki, but it seems like there are more than enough sources to put antisemitism in the info box. Is there a different standard for the category section?Suomi13 (talk) 01:34, 30 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Antisemitism 

message: I note that there are a whole lot of pages the hatnote links to, all of which are named "National Democracy". Considering that they are all named the same thing, and how many there are, I think a disambiguation page should be made for them. Runaway4444 (talk) 12:32, 23 April 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've moved some of the links from the hatnote into a new dab page . – Uanfala (talk) 15:40, 27 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Potential disambiguation page