Talk:Joan II of Navarre

message: Could you enlighten the rest of us by elaborating a bit on your edit summary for this edit, which reads simply "POV"? Eric talk 03:56, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: "These changes may have reflected a disagreement with Philip over administration of Navarre" > "These changes may have reflected a disagreement with Philip over administration of Navarre, according to W." Borsoka (talk) 04:01, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Eric talk 12:00, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nov 16 edits to Reign section 

message: The IP142.183.21.97 has added(at least for the moment):
*"Philip de Valois, in the assembly of Puente la Reina on the 13th of March 1328, decided in favour of his right against Edward the third, disclaimed all pretensions of Navarre, which he acknowledged to belong to Philip count of Evreux, his brother-in law, in right of his consort. But the states of Navarre did not either wait for or take notice of this, but proclaimed her queen immediately, appointing Don Juan Cordoban de Lehet, and Don Juan Martinez de Medrano, lord of Arroniz, to administer public affairs in her name, with the title of regents. A solemn embassy was also sent to Rome, in the name of the queen, which was extremely well received."
This information already appears in the article, albeit in the perspective of Joan II of Navarre(the subject of the article). The IP's addition is written in a broken perspective that fails to even mention Joan(the subject of the article)...at all! The previous versions added by the IP were even more illegible and this addition is unneeded and clearly not an improvement.
The other issue is the references:
*L'Hifstoire du Royaume de Navarre, Ferreras, Mayerne Turquet. Page 464, the Modern Part of a Universal History, From the Earliest Account of Time: The History of Navarre
Is unauthored and is dated from 1760. Clearly should not be considered or used as a source.
*Moret: Anales de Nabarra, ano.1328
I am guessing this was published in 1328 which makes it a primary source and also outdated.
*https://dbe.rah.es/biografias/57535/juan-martinez-de-medrano
Some obscure website, that appears you simply translated then shoved into the article.
*(Idem id., cajon 6, nums 18 y 60.
No clue what this means. Kansas Bear (talk) 02:56, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poorly worded addition, outdated unreliable source, et.al. 

message: SOURCES: Bibl.: J. Y anguas y Miranda, “Medrano, Juan Martín de”, en Diccionario de Antigüedades del Reino de Navarra, Pamplona, Imprenta de José Imaz y Gadea, 1940; J. M. Lacarra, El juramento de los reyes de Navarra (1234-1329), Madrid, Real Academia de la Historia, 1972, págs. 84-92; “Las Cortes de Olite de 1329 y la sucesión al reino de Navarra”, en Cuadernos de Historia de España, 65-66 (1972), pág. 309; Historia política del Reino de Navarra desde sus orígenes hasta su incorporación a Castilla, vol. III, Pamplona, Caja de Ahorros de Navarra, 1973, págs. 17, 21 y 28; J. Zabalo Zabalegui, La administración del reino de Navarra en el siglo XIV, Pamplona, Universidad de Navarra, 1973, págs. 37, 53, 55-56, 210 y 323; “Juan Martínez de Medrano ‘el Mayor’”, en Gran Enciclopedia Navarra, vol. VII, Pamplona, Caja de Ahorros de Navarra, 1990, pág. 310; A. J. Martín Duque y E. Ramírez Vaquero, “El reino de Navarra (1217-1350)”, en Historia de España Menéndez Pidal, vol. 13-2, Madrid, Espasa Calpe, 1990, pág. 76; B. Leroy, “Les débuts de la dynastie d’Evreux en Navarre: des expériences mutuelles, de novuelles situations”, en En la España Medieval, 17 (1994), págs. 20-22; J. J. Martinena Ruiz, Castillos reales de Navarra (siglos XIII al XVI), Pamplona, Gobierno de Navarra, 1994, pág. 725; F. Miranda García, Felipe III y Juana II de Evreux, Pamplona, Mintzoa, 1994, págs. 56, 62, 145, 148, 156, 164, 180, 243 y 246; R. Ciganda Elizondo, “El honor de las armas y el servicio del rey: la carrera política de Fernando de Ayanz (c. 1353-1393)”, en Grupos Sociales en la Historia de Navara: relaciones y derechos. Quinto Congreso de Historia de Navarra, vol. I, Pamplona, Eunate, 2002, págs. 55 y 66; F. Segura Urra, ‘Fazer justicia’. Fuero, poder público y delito en Navarra (siglos XIII-XIV), Pamplona, Gobierno de Navarra, 2005, págs. 39, 173, 313, 321 y 388; I. Mugueta Moreno, El dinero de los Evreux. Hacienda y fiscalidad en el reino de Navarra. 1328-1349, Pamplona, Gobierno de Navarra, 2007, págs. 28, 116, 223, 319, 323, 333, 334, 373, 485-488, 583 y 600.
Félix Segura Urra 142.183.21.97 (talk) 04:58, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regency of Navarre 1328