Talk:WCW World Heavyweight Championship

message: This page seems like a huge mess.  Named the WCW World Heavyweight Title, yet people have added information and bits about the ECW, USWA, and others... they don't belong here, do they?  This is suppose to be about the WCW World Heavyweight Title.  If someone wants to mix them all together, which seems like a bad idea to me, this page should be redirected to something like Wrestling World Titles or something like that. Eric42 19:47, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Now that I look at the page again, I've noticed that it may have started off as a page about NWA or has been changed to reflect the lienage of the NWA Title Histories.  I just hope that whoever realizes that the WCW World Heavyweight Title and the NWA Title are two completely seperate titles.  I suggest reading this message board thread for more information about the titles. Eric42 19:52, 31 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  May 2004 

message: This article contradicts itself. The top paragraph claims the phyical WCW World Heavyweight Championship belt is still in use today by the WWE as the World Heavyweight Title (which is false; the WWE is using a similar-looking but different belt), while the final paragraph states that the WWE's current World Heavyweight Championship is a completely different title with a different belt.
:Wrong.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.170.35.126 (talk) 07:16, 13 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Error/Contradiction 

message: Why is this and other wrestling articles written as though dealing with a skill-based sport and not the scripted entertainment it is?
:Because it takes away from the effect the entertainment has on the fans, or even observers, when one says, "Hulk Hogan jobbed to Ultimate Warrior cleanly," as opposed to "Hogan and Warrior gave it their all, but the Warrior truimphed." It's like a soap opera - you know Susan Lucci didn't get married 150,000 times, Erica Kane did. 64.241.230.3 15:39, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sport vs. scripted entertainment 

message: They are virtually the same title design and do not over-run into one and another - therefore I am proposing this. Davnel03 18:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: When a company owns a title, they have the right to do whatever they want with it. They can unify it, they can deactivate it, or they can continue to use it for as long they want. When the WWF bought WCW they instantly became the owners of the title. Regardless of what you wish to believe, The Rock and Jericho ARE former WCW World Heavyweight Champions. I'm afraid this debate is pointless, as the sources have contradicted every word you've said. -- bulletproof 3:16 03:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging Pages 

message: I feel that this page should be merged with WWE's World Heavyweight Championship page on wikipedia due to WWE's statement yesterday of the WCW title being a continuation of the World Heavyweight Championship. Big Boss 0 15:06, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: When a company owns a title, they have the right to do whatever they want with it. They can unify it, they can deactivate it, or they can continue to use it for as long they want. When the WWF bought WCW they instantly became the owners of the title. Regardless of what you wish to believe, The Rock and Jericho ARE former WCW World Heavyweight Champions. I'm afraid this debate is pointless, as the sources have contradicted every word you've said. -- bulletproof 3:16 03:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opinions Here... 

message: According to various sources (including Wikipedia's article on The Great American Bash), after Flair jumped to the WWF with the Big Gold Belt, WCW used Dusty Rhode's Florida Heavyweight Championship belt to represent the title, replated (poorly) to remove the references to Florida.  It would be beneficial to this article to find an image of this belt--either the replated version or the pre-replated version.  Obviously the replated version would be more helpful, though I don't imagine any pictures of decent quality exist (if somebody has a tape of The Great American Bash 1991, maybe they could provide a vidcap?).  As a last resort, an image of the Florida Heavyweight Championship belt without the new plating would suffice. Jeff Silvers 07:46, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just realized that the belt is mentioned in this article, too.  Hmm. Jeff Silvers 14:51, 22 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  1991 post-Flair belt 

message: Is this the same thing as the WCW World Heavyweight Championship? If so, the statistics need adjusting, and perhpas some sort of merger may be preferable. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.245.136.217 (talk • contribs) 
:The World Heavyweight Championship currently defended on SmackDown! is not the same title as the WCW or NWA Championships. So no.-- bulletproof 3:16 18:15, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The World Title(WWE) 

message: This article would really benefit from a (free) image of the other WCW World Heavyweight Championship belt (the one featuring the six stars on the middle plate).  If anybody owns a replica of that belt and can take a photograph for the article, it would be greatly appreciated. Jeff Silvers 13:17, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ask and ye shall receive.Bmf 51 05:44, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free photograph of the other WCW World Title belt? 

message: After Flair no-showed several shows in 1991, WCW stripped him of the World Title. However, the NWA 9such as they were) continued to recognise Flair, so WCW made Luger-Windham for the WCW World Title. That is the creation of the separate belt right there. The diea that Flair was a double-world champion in early 1991 is fiction. 41.245.190.156 (talk) 13:55, 12 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major errors 

message: Sting in 1990
This link:
http://members.chello.at/dietmar.kienboeck/title.htm
shows the true beginnings of the WCW World Heavyweight Title. It was written contemporaneously, unlike the current so-called "reliable" sources which were written much more recently and espouse WWE revisionist history. Bring Back The F (talk) 15:43, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  True beginning and true first WCW World Heavyweight Champion. 

message: This should really be merged with the article on the regular WCW International World Heavyweight Championship that was borne out of the NWA World Heavyweight Championship. The information between the pages is nearly identical. 
One article that explains the origins of the title, the spin off of the International championship due to Flair leaving/the separation from the NWA, and the separate short lived 6 star WCW World Heavyweight Championship would be a lot more fluid.  JasonOT (talk) 06:32, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: No, this title and the International title were two separate World titles that splintered off from the NWA World Heavyweight Championship under two separate sets of circumstances in 1991 and 1993 respectively.  They both co-existed together for several months in WCW during 1993-1994 and were eventually unified at Clash of the Champions XXVII on June 23 1994 when Ric Flair pinned Sting.2.24.71.58 (talk) 00:46, 15 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge with WCW International World Heavyweight Championship 

message: I noticed for the intercontinental championship section... that unifying a title isn't classified as a shortest reign so therefore chris jericho shouldn't have the shortest reign for the wcw world heavyweight championship... so who is?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.252.32.154 (talk) 16:15, 11 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: WCW had quite a few less than-a-day champions, but I'm fairly sure Hollywood Hogan's reign at Bash at the Beach 2000 was the shortest. Russo stripped him of the title within minutes. Can't recall an exact time, but I'll look into it and make the change. InedibleHulk (talk) 05:34, 14 January 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind what I said. Brainfart. Jericho won it from The Rock, then held it throughout the match with Austin. Also about 15 minutes. If Austin had won the match, his reign would have been 0 seconds. InedibleHulk (talk) 21:50, 1 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  shortest reign 

message: WWE officially recognizes the WCW World Heavyweight Championship as the WCW World Championship. WWE owns World Championship Wrestling and all of it's property and trademarks. WWE has chosen to give the name WCW World Championship to the championship so Wikipedia needs to adjust and change the name of the article to "WCW World Championship" or else we are just simply misinforming the readers. The same would go for the article for the list of title reigns. Epicneter (talk) 20:56, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: That is a pretty affirmative statement and not how things work on wikipedia. You can propose a new name and attempt to get a consensus, but things are not demanded or else. - GalatzTalk 20:57, 11 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename the article to WCW World Championship 

message: I think we should rename the article to "WCW World Championship," my reasoning are as followed:
1.WWE officially recognizes this title as the "WCW World Championship".
2.If we were to not make this change, I believe we would be misinforming our readers as that is not the title's official name and that has not been the championship's name for over 16 years.
3. Most people refer to it as the "Big Gold Belt" or the "WCW World Championship" as it is. Epicneter (talk) 01:13, 12 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename the article to WCW World Championship?