Talk:University of Erlangen–Nuremberg

message: The "Laboratory of Telecommunication" is not the Laboratory of Telecommunication but the Electrical Engineering Department. Believe me as I have to go there tomorrow to take an exam ;-)
Changed it.
Cheers  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.7.45.178 (talk) 22:50, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
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message: * responding to: "Friedrich-Alexander-Universität Erlangen-Nürnberg) better known as FAU" 
* FAU = Florida Atlantic Univresity. 
* In Germany, especially in Bavaria and even more around Erlangen and Nuremberg, no one ever says "the FAU". It is called "Uni Erlangen" and only that. The "brand" FAU was introduced by chancelor Grüske to promote the public profile and is not an established "nickname" or commonly known name used for this university, if used at all... Maybe a staff member of the admin. office put this in here, but this annotation is not accurate nor informative.
* The name "FAU" was only introduced along with the new logo showing this three letters, forming this kind of new "label". Among the student and staff community there was big discussion about this topic, which can be verified using google. I won't provide any links. I just wanted to let you know that this produces a biased and distorted image of the university itself.
14:09, 14 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Self-made public portrait of the "brand" FAU and press reactions...

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* Requested Addition: In the Times Higher Education Impact Ranking 2023, FAU ranks 1st worldwide in the SDG 9 – industry, innovation and infrastructure. 
* Reason: The University of Erlangen-Nuremberg has a long-standing tradition of applied research and a strong focus on translational research and industrial innovation. This is reflected also in the 2023 THE Ranking in which reports FAU on rank 1 of the SDG9. Therefore I propose to add the text in academic rankings. A first rank in the Times Higher Education ranking is a significant achievement and demonstrates success certified by an independent and objective source.
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AKMaier (talk) 13:22, 13 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request edit on 13 June 2023 

message: * What I think should be changed: 
The University Seal in the information box
* Why it should be changed: 
The version published was replaced in 2022. The new version is available on the Wikipedia Commons at https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Friedrich_Alexander_University_of_Erlangen-Nuremberg_Seal_2022.png
* References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): 
https://www.doc.zuv.fau.de//M/Styleguide/FAU_Styleguide-Essentials_v26_2022-07-14.pdf
Ronna2023 (talk) 12:22, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: . This would qualify as a non-substantive change, so you could have done it yourself. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:28, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

text: Thank you. I am naturally cautions to make any changes given the potential for backlash, account blocking, and conflicting views, but will begin trying to follow your recommendation. Ronna2023 (talk) 10:03, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request edit on 22 May 2023 (1) 

message: * What I think should be changed: 
The University Logo in the information box
* Why it should be changed: 
The version published was replaced in 2022. The new version is available on the Wikipedia Commons at 
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Friedrich-Alexander-Universit%C3%A4t_Erlangen-N%C3%BCrnberg_Logo_07.2022.svg
* References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): 
https://www.doc.zuv.fau.de//M/Styleguide/FAU_Styleguide-Essentials_v26_2022-07-14.pdf
Ronna2023 (talk) 12:26, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: . This is a non-substantive change that would be OK for you to do yourself. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:29, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

text: Thank you. I am naturally cautions to make any changes given the potential for backlash, account blocking, and conflicting views, but will begin trying to follow your recommendation. Ronna2023 (talk) 10:04, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request edit on 22 May 2023 (2) 

message: * What I think should be changed: 
Budget / Information Box
| budget = € 543.1 million Public funding: € 365.5 million Third party funding: € 177.6 million
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 | budget                = 721,6 Mio. € (2021)Third-party Funds: 243,19 Mio. €Third-party funding according to donors in millions of euros
* Why it should be changed: 
The published figures are not current or correct and the cited references are out of date
* References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): 
url=https://www.stmfh.bayern.de/haushalt/2023/haushaltsplan/Epl15.pdf
url=https://www.fau.eu/fau/welcome-to-fau/facts-and-figures//#collapse_6l/
Ronna2023 (talk) 12:45, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you Ronna2023 (talk) 10:05, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

text: . ~Anachronist (talk) 03:35, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request edit on 22 May 2023 (3) 

message: * What I think should be changed:
| president = Joachim Hornegger
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 | president              = Joachim Hornegger
 
* Why it should be changed: 
The reference is changed from a general page in German on the University's website to a specific one in English.
* References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): 
https://www.fau.eu/fau/organisation-and-committees/executive-board/prof-dr-joachim-hornegger-president 
Ronna2023 (talk) 12:57, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: . ~Anachronist (talk) 03:47, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

text: Thank you Ronna2023 (talk) 10:05, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request edit on 22 May 2023 (4) 

message: * What I think should be changed: 
| vice-president = 
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Recommend deletion from information box
* Why it should be changed: 
This list would have to be extended to be complete, making it too long for the information box. It is no longer current and correct.
* References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): 
Ronna2023 (talk) 13:03, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: . ~Anachronist (talk) 03:48, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request edit on 22 May 2023 (5) 

message: * What I think should be changed: 
| academic_staff = 4,036 University hospital not included.
| administrative_staff = 2,320
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 | academic_staff         = 629 (2022)
 | total_staff            = 6,570 (2022)
* Why it should be changed:
Out of date information and non-functioning link.
 
* References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): 
url=https://www.fau.eu/fau/welcome-to-fau/facts-and-figures/
Ronna2023 (talk) 13:12, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: . ~Anachronist (talk) 03:53, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request edit on 22 May 2023 (6) 

message: * What I think should be changed: 
| students = 38,771
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| students               = 39,658 (WS 2022/23)University Webseite
* Why it should be changed: 
Most current figure and specific citation in English instead of general citation in German
* References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): 
Ronna2023 (talk) 13:17, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: . ~Anachronist (talk) 03:54, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request edit on 22 May 2023 (7) 

message: * What I think should be changed: 
| affiliations = Domestic: 1. Bavarian State Ministry for Science, Research and Art 2. DFG3. Excellence UniversitiesInternational:1. SEFI
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affiliations           = German-French Universities (DFH-UFA), EELISA
* Why it should be changed: 
According to the University Marketing Department, the published list is no longer current and should be replaced by the new list.
* References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): 
https://www.dfh-ufa.org/en/
https://eelisa.eu/partners/ 
Ronna2023 (talk) 13:24, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: , partially. We don't use external links in Wikipedia articles. I changed them to Wikilinks. ~Anachronist (talk) 03:59, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. EELISA doesn't appear to have a Wikipedia page, either on the English or German page. What alternative do you suggest to its own website to explain what it is, and to show that it is a bone fide association? This link was used on the German Wikipedia page for the organization: https://eelisa.eu/partners/  Ronna2023 (talk) 10:13, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The red link is fine. If an article gets created on EELISA, then the link will turn blue. Anyone searching for the term will quickly see that it's a bona-fide organization. ~Anachronist (talk) 18:18, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request edit on 22 May 2023 (8) 

message: * What I think should be changed: 
University of Erlangen–Nuremberg (, FAU) is a public research university in the cities of Erlangen and Nuremberg in Bavaria, Germany. The name Friedrich–Alexander comes from the university's first founder Friedrich, Margrave of Brandenburg-Bayreuth, and its benefactor Alexander, Margrave of Brandenburg-Ansbach.
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Founded in 1743 by Friedrich, Margrave of Brandenburg-Bayreuth, today FAU has campuses in Erlangen, Nuremberg (since 1961) and Fürth (since 2004). The university's fields of research and study are reflected across its five faculties: Humanities, Social Sciences, and Theology; Business, Economics, and Law; Medicine; Sciences; and Engineering.
* Why it should be changed: 
- The University wishes to adopt the inverted pyramid approach as recommended by Wikipedia guidelines - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_better_articles - and to focus up front on what it interprets as relevant information to provide a brief introductory overview to readers with a bone fide interest in this modern research university (so an appropriate level of detail can be achieved further into the article on topics like its history): 
- While no doubt of some interest to some readers, of higher priority in this opening section is what the university offers its students, researchers, employees, community, and collaboration partners today, rather than 200+ years ago.
- To provide additional, high-calibre, relevant citations, where possible in English
Ronna2023 (talk) 13:53, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: . The proposal references an essay, not a guideline, and the proposed change is the opposite of the inverted pyramid. The most important information is the name of the institution, followed by what it is, and its location. The proposed change comes across as promotional. I agree that the etymology doesn't need to be there. The second paragraph of the lead goes into too much detail for an overview and could be repurposed to list fields of study. ~Anachronist (talk) 04:10, 31 May 2023 (UTC)

text: Thank you. I do not understand your terms essay and guideline in this context. Again to point out that much of the information in the introductory section as it stands is not factually correct, contradicts cited updated figures in the now edited information box, and that some of these old supporting citations no longer work/have been replaced with those given in the information box. I assume this comment also relates to the further edit recommendations I made on 22 May. Can the factually incorrect information please at least be removed? Ronna2023 (talk) 10:37, 31 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request edit on 22 May 2023 (9) 

message: * What I think should be changed:
FAU is the second largest state university in the state of Bavaria. It has 5 faculties, 24 departments/schools, 25 clinical departments, 21 autonomous departments, 579 professors, 3,457 members of research staff and roughly 14,300 employees.
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FAU is a state university in the Nuremberg Metropolian Region of southern Germany. It has 39,658 students and offers 272 courses, including 82 bachelor courses, 98 master courses and 92 courses with state examinations, such as teaching, law or medicine (as of 2023).
 
* Why it should be changed:
- The University wishes to adopt the inverted pyramid approach as recommended by Wikipedia guidelines - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_better_articles - and to focus up front on what it interprets as relevant information to provide a brief introductory overview to readers with a bone fide interest in this modern research university 
- While no doubt of some interest to some readers, of higher priority in this opening section is what the university offers its students, researchers, employees, community, and collaboration partners today.
- FAU is not the second largest state university in the state of Bavaria. Is size (here undefined) in Bavaria relevant to international (English-language) readers?
- To provide additional, high-calibre, relevant citations, where possible in English
 
* References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): 
Ronna2023 (talk) 14:16, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request edit on 22 May 2023 (10) 

message: * What I think should be changed: 
In winter semester 2018/19 around 38,771 students (including 5,096 foreign students) enrolled in the university in 265 fields of study, with about 2/3 studying at the Erlangen campus and the remaining 1/3 at the Nuremberg campus. These statistics put FAU in the list of top 10 largest universities in Germany. In 2018, 7,390 students graduated from the university and 840 doctorates and 55 post-doctoral theses were registered. Moreover, FAU received 201 million Euro (2018) external funding in the same year, making it one of the strongest third-party funded universities in Germany.
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University of Erlangen-Nuremberg regularly features in global and European university rankings,  especially for innovation. The university's researchers include 4 Nobel laureates, 8 Alexander von Humboldt professors, 8 Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz Prize holders, and 53 European Research Council grantees.
* Why it should be changed: 
- The University wishes to adopt the inverted pyramid approach as recommended by Wikipedia guidelines - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Writing_better_articles - and to focus up front on what it interprets as relevant information to provide a brief introductory overview to readers with a bone fide interest in this modern research university 
- While no doubt of some interest to some readers, of higher priority in this opening section is what the university offers its students, researchers, employees, community, and collaboration partners today. 
- Many of the statistics given are no longer accurate, and have been or are being corrected elsewhere.
- To provide additional, high-calibre, relevant citations, where possible in English
- The intention is to update campus/locations, central institutions , research and more in a separate, up-to-date and factually correct sections further in the article
* References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): 
Ronna2023 (talk) 14:30, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request edit on 22 May 2023 (11) 

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FAU is also a member of DFG (Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft) and the Top Industrial Managers for Europe network.
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FAU is also a member of The German Research Foundation ( Deutsche Forschungsgemeinschaft or DFG).
* Why it should be changed: 
FAU is no longer a member of Top Industrial Managers for Europe Network, and in fact this organization has changed its name.
* References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): 
Ronna2023 (talk) 14:33, 22 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request edit on 22 May 2023 (12) 

message: # The text which was being asked to be removed has been removed.
# The replacement text which was being asked to be added was not added. 
# The claim involving the Top Industrial Managers for Europe Network was omitted as requested.
Regards,  Spintendo  23:33, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 1-JUL-2023