Talk:Chaldean Neo-Aramaic

message: I'm not convinced that "Sureth" is a synonym for Chaldean Neo-Aramaic especially when the editor is adding it to multiple Aramaic-related articles.  It seems to be a synonym for Classical Syriac and not for any of the modern languages.  (Taivo (talk) 13:03, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: That's incorrect. Classical Syriac is called Suryaya (sometimes spelt Suraya, though the for with two ys is original), Kthawanaya, Orhaya or Leshshana d-Qorbana. Sureth is not regularly used to refer to the classical language. It is a term used in Christian NENA varieties for those languages. It literally means 'Syriac' but uses an adjectival ending rarely used in the classical language. I have seen Sureth used in a NENA text to refer to the classical language, but is was clear from the context that the classical language was meant, and not the modern language (which latter would be its usual meaning). — Gareth Hughes (talk) 22:34, 22 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Sureth" 

message: I feel this page needs protection from unregistered users, and the constant reverts that it is suffering. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EddieDrood (talk • contribs) 11:37, 15 February 2015
: Requests for page protection should be made at WP:RFPP.  is only for requesting edits to pages that are already protected. SiBr4 (talk) 16:44, 15 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: In other words, we have a bunch of idiots yelling at each other again.  Page needs protection.  — kwami (talk) 04:06, 17 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Page Protection

message: I'd like to add a sentence to the History section on different dialectal names
:According to Ethnologue Chaldean may also be referenced by other names such as Kaldaya[1] or in terms of a region-specific dialect such as Alqosh, Bartille, Dihok, and Mangesh among others[2].
I'd also like to add a section on the endangerment and documentation of Chaldean including classifications of level of endangerment, a brief overview of some causes, and a list of some documentation efforts. Here's an overview of my sources (some are much less "reliable" I do realize they are not completely acceptable according to Wikipedia standard, however, due to the nature of language endangerment and revitalization, it is difficult to find traditional "reliable" sources especially for politically controversial topics such as this language).
: Awde, Nicholas; Lamassu, Nineb; Al-Jeloo, Nicholas (2007). Aramaic (Assyrian/Syriac) Dictionary & Phrasebook: Swadaya-English, Turoyo-English, English-Swadaya-Turoyo. Hippocrene Books. pp. 44, 90, 139. ISBN 9780781810876.
: "OLAC resources in and about the Chaldean Neo-Aramaic language". olac.ldc.upenn.edu. Retrieved 2020-12-07.
: "Size and vitality of Chaldean Neo-Aramaic". Ethnologue. Retrieved 2020-12-07.
: "UNESCO Atlas of the World's Languages in danger". www.unesco.org. Retrieved 2020-12-07.
: Naby, Eden. "From Lingua Franca to Endangered Language: The Legal Aspects of the Preservation of Aramaic in Iraq" (PDF). Independent Scholar.
: "The Constitution of the Republic of Iraq". Iraqi Parliament Council. Retrieved December 7, 2020.
: "Iraqi Constitution (2005) —". aceproject.org. Retrieved 2020-12-07.
: Sara, Solomon I. (1974-01-31). A Description of Modern Chaldean. Berlin, Boston: De Gruyter. ISBN 978-3-11-081202-2.
: Seepo, Catrin; Hamilton, Michael. "The Syntax of Chaldean Neo-Aramaic: An Examination of Word Order in the Alqoshi Dialect. FAU Undergraduate Research Journal, 8(1), 56-56". FAU Undergraduate Research Journal. 8: 56–63 – via Florida Atlantic University.
: Jammo, Bishop Sarhad Y.; Younan, Father Andrew (2014). Introductory Chaldean. CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform. ISBN 9781503371163.
: Jammo, Bishop Sarhad Y.; Younan, Father Andrew (2014). Chaldean Grammar. CreateSpace Independent Publishing Platform. ISBN 9781496194923.
: "Chaldean Aramaic | Learn Chaldean Aramaic Online | Mango Languages". mangolanguages.com. Retrieved 2020-12-07.
A small idea I'd like to propose is to address the controversy directly on the page as I feel this is also important information for the public and gives context to those coming to this page for trustworthy information.
Let me know your thoughts about this, for context I'm a linguistics student currently in a language endangerment and revitalization course. Natreanne (talk) 21:55, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Language Endangerment/Adding New Information

message: Linguists distinguish the Jewish Neo-Aramaic from Christian Neo-Aramaic varieties since these have a different development and are sometimes mutually unintelligible in the same location. However, within Christian Neo-Aramaic the distinctions are geographic, not by religion, and I can find hardly any sources speaking of a "Chaldean" dialect group. The 1974 book A Description of Modern Chaldean might appear to do this but it is actually  a description of the speech of Mangesh, Iraq. Ethnologue has separate entries (it considers "Chaldean" to consist of "Mangesh, Alqosh, Tel Kepe, Tisqopa, Bartille, Shirnak-Chizre (Bohtan), Dihok" dialects), but that's just a database entry and without more solid sources it's impossible to develop the article without going into WP:OR (which I suspect is going on here). I therefore think that this article and Assyrian Neo-Aramaic should be merged, possibly to Suret which is the native name for all Christian Northeastern Neo-Aramaic varieties. (t · c) buidhe 12:45, 20 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research