Talk:Orenburg

message: I would like to see a picture of an Orenburg shawl.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.162.154.176 (talk • contribs) .
:Here we go.—Ëzhiki (Igels Hérissonovich Ïzhakoff-Amursky) • (yo?); 18:32, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
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message: Orenburg had in 1920, when my mother´s mother was there for a period, a sizeable German population, which lived in their own part of the town, known as Forstadt located on the northern riverbank of Jaik east of confuence of Sakmara River. In addition to the Germans, there were, in addition to ethnic Russians including Ukrainians, also Mordvins and Tatars which together formed majority of Orenburg population which was recorded in offical statistic to be 74.000 on 1 / 14, 1913. Also Kazah, Kirgiz and some Kalmuk lived in town. She bought from Orenburg Bazar those Orenburg shawls which lasted for twenty years or so. She called them shaali. Cheers.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.114.197.222 (talk) 10:33, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Where are the Germans?

message: This is another view to history.
*The new Orenburg, population 306.000 in 1965, was founded in 1742 and become the centre for barter trade between European Russia and Central Asia. it was considered to be the greatest market of European Russia at the turn of the century (1900). Between 1826 - 1896 about 10.000 camels were engaged in the caravan trade with Tashkent. One of the chief products of the town was salt obtained from mines some 60 versts to the south which were producing about 20.000 tons in 1890. The Ural Cossacks played a similar part in the Russian advance and colonization of the steppe east of the Volga as did Don and Ukraine Cossacks in European Russia. Uralsk was their main centre; but they were gradually brought under the control of the Russian Government, and the last traces of their autonomy had been destroyed by 1833.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.115.124.58 (talk) 14:15, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It was definitely founded in 1743  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.88.46.99 (talk) 01:14, 3 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Orenburg

message: "In the boundary of Europe and Asia" is strange English - since a boundary is a line and a line has no thickness or depth, it's impossible to be "in" one. At first I wondered if this was written by a non-native user of English, but the rest of the article looks all right. It may just be a typo for "on the boundary....", but that suggests Orenburg is literally astride the boundary (which may or may not be true). Although "at the boundary...." should strictly mean the same thing, it sounds a little less specific and would surely be the best phrasing of all.31.15.247.228 (talk) 08:42, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: After making the previous comment I checked the Russian version of this article, which goes into far more detail about where Orenburg is located. Apparently there's a sign on a footbridge across the River Ural indicating that the border between the two continents bisects it and hence that part of the city is in Asia - but this is not internationally recognised, since only the upper reaches of the river in Russian territory are considered to form the border, rather than the whole river. By that reckoning, Orenburg is entirely in Europe. This uncertainty seems another good reason to opt for "at the boundary" rather than "on the boundary".31.15.247.228 (talk) 08:55, 8 September 2016 (UTC)
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