Talk:Metropolitan area

message: See talk:megalopolis for discussion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Daran (talk • contribs) 22:27, 4 October 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Other discussion

message: What an absolutely crap article about metropolitan areas. Where are the explanations about the various methodes used around the world etc?
Metro Manilla isn't even a metropolitan area based on commuter statistics, at least get that one right... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.246.51.145 (talk) 14:42, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Methods used around the world

message: In Japan, there are 7 major Metropolitan Areas (MAs). They are Tokyo MA (34.5million), Osaka MA (18.6million), Nagoya MA (8.7million), Fukuoka MA (5.4million), Sapporo MA (2.5million), Sendai MA (2.2million) and Hiroshima MA (2.0million) (the numbers are populations of 1.5% Urban Employment Areas in 2000). Some major individual cities in each MAs are designated by government ordinance as the Government Ordinance Cities(GOCs). For examle, Osaka MA includes GOCs of Kyoto, Osaka, Kobe and Sakai.
Moved above text from article. It would be better if instead of listing specific metropolitan areas, the criteria for what is included in a metropolitan area in Japan be put in the article instead. Polaron | Talk 13:30, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The entire Taiheiyo Belt article that's referenced now is also unsourced. I'm not sure there are official metropolitan areas. Anyway, the articles as they stand give the misleading impression that the entire area is urbanized, when some of these metros are separated by fairly large distances. Dekimasu 05:00, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japan metropolitan areas 

message: As documented in talk Sydney the statment "Both Statistical Divisions and Districts are equivalent to metropolitan areas." is disputed. John Dalton 09:57, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Found a citation and corrected it. - ҉ Randwicked ҉ 03:14, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Statistical Division is not the same as metropolital area

message: Barcelona's Metropolitan Area is 5.150.000 (updated 2006) in 3.925 km2 (1.515 ml2), as is observed in... http://bcnip.blogsome.com/2006/04/22/la-region-metropolitana-de-Barcelona (data 2005) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.50.148.173 (talk) 02:17, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New data 

message: Note: The external link for metrofyi.com is more of an advertisement for that website in that many major metro areas are excluded and some listed are clearly incorrect. At the very least, it should be noted as a partial list. Perhaps excluded in that it contains more advertising about places to go than data on the area.
Also, the abbreviation "MSA" should be included in the commonly used abbreviations used for this topic due to the fact that it covers standard conventional references used in most all industries.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.153.111.254 (talk) 15:44, 9 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Website limitations; abbreviation

message: Are Surat, Ahmedabad and Pune included in the list of Metropolitan cities in India? There are no proper citations in the article to support this. I hope someone will provide citations failing which the cities will have to be deleted from the list. Thanks. Swaroop (talk) 16:49, 3 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Surat, Ahmedabad and Pune? 

message: According to the German Wikipedia , the Metropolitan area had been officially defined in 1995 as the Rhine-Ruhr (German Rhein-Ruhr) Metropolitan area in 1995, officially having 10,168,321 inhabitants on 30 June 2008, and thus forming the largest metropolitan area in the EU. According to the German Wikipedia (see link), the official definition of the "European Metropol Region Rhine-Ruhr" is contained in North Rhine-Westphalian development laws and - to be exact - stems from the "Development Plan of the State of North Rhine-Westphalia (part A), where it was defined in terms of space, and had been treated as a subject matter in form of verbalized 'goals' in section B.I.2." (in German: Landesplanungsrechtlich wird die Europäische Metropolregion Rhein-Ruhr im Landesentwicklungsplan Nordrhein-Westfalen (Teil A) räumlich bestimmt und sachlich in Form von textlich formulierten "Zielen" unter dem Abschnitt B.I.2. behandelt.) It might be of some importance to know that matters of regional development, to a large part, fall into the competencies of the German Länder (States, literally: "countries").
Perhaps someone would like to consider whether the reference to the Ruhr area alone should be changed to a reference to the larger Rhine-Ruhr area. --85.179.67.148 (talk) 22:13, 9 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Europe: Rhine-Ruhr or Ruhr? 

message: And it is probably more trouble than it is worth to try to fix it, as the boosters will always come back for another go. What we need as permanent warning tag saying "This concept should not be taken seriously". Wimstead (talk) 16:40, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: This is an all too predictable mess

message: "according to the Far Eastern Economic Review, Asia alone will have at least 10 hypercities"
I'm not sure why "hypercities" link to Sky city 1000 of if "hypercity" even a real term. Someone who knows what he's doing please edit 114.75.1.18 (talk) 15:14, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: hypercity

message: Ive changed Torontos population back to its actual population of just ocer 2 million, the person who had it at 8.1 million might be a little to patriotic or just stupid lol  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gargabook (talk • contribs) 02:48, 2 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Toronto

message: It is intimately related but I believe that a LMA should have it's own article. --C9900 (talk) 12:38, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Redirecting Labor Market Area to Metropolitan Area

message: The article contains this sentence:
" However the most ambitious metropolitan area population figures are often better seen as the population of a "metropolitan region" than of a "city".[citation needed]"
And someone thinks a citation is needed for such a vague statement that it is useless to anyone trying to understand the idea of a "metropolitan area" ???
What this sentence needs is not a citation but a deletion. Because sentences are supposed to convey information, but this one doesn't.Daqu (talk) 16:44, 3 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Metropolitan region" helps explain "metropolitan area" ???  Puh-leeze. 

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thread_title: File:Levent financial district in Istanbul.jpg Nominated for Deletion

message: The caption under a picture of Istanbul incorrectly states that the Istanbul metropolitan area is the only one that spans two continents.  As noted explicitly in the article on Port Said, "Port Said's twin city is Port Fuad, which lies on the eastern bank of the canal. The two cities coexist, to the extent that there hardly is any town centre in Port Fuad. The cities are connected by free ferries running all through the day, and together they form a metropolitan area with over a million residents that extends both on the African and the Asian sides of the Suez Canal."  The caption should perhaps be edited to say, "Istanbul, one of only two metropolitan areas that span two continents, the other being Port Said in Egypt." --Wbush89 (talk) 16:49, 9 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Port Said metropolitan area also spans two continents 

message: There is a lot of images on this article, and some of them just show skylines of cities, not the metropolitan area of the city. Shouldn't these be removed? Rob (talk) 10:05, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not the skylines themselves that are the problem - highly developed skylines are indicative of very large cities, and one or two of them should be included to illustrate the type of area that forms the article's subject matter - but the sheer number of images in the article is grossly excessive.  It's almost as though editors from each country have tried to ensure that their own country is represented.  Surely that can't be the case?  Ghmyrtle (talk) 18:33, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: My observation has been that editors from each country have tried to have their own country represented. As long as there is a section for each country, I don't mind there being one picture associated with it. I would draw the line however at no more than one per country. Hwy43 (talk) 19:13, 27 September 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The images aren't suppose to show the largest cities, but rather the variations in metropolitan areas, and there build up. I think we should have pictures of well-known cities of various size, build up, density, etc. For example, the skyline of New York City could been compared with the skyline of Berlin to show contrast between two well known metropolitans. Rob (talk) 02:42, 28 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: I have inexpertly tried to fix a couple of the thousand things about it which are horrible. It should be drastically shortened because it already has its own article, and metro- is different from megalo-! I don't want to remove it completely because obviously the concepts are related. Domrivers (talk) 17:36, 6 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Megalopolis section 

message: The second image on the page has the caption:
:"Gangnam in Seoul Capital Area, South Korea, the world's second largest metropolitan area"
But if you click on the image you get a bigger version of the image with the caption:
:"Tokyo, Japan, the world's largest metropolitan area"
Fholson 01:29, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  caption error 

message: I know that the concept of metropolitan area is popular in the US because of post-1950s deurbanisation. However, it is a marginal concept in some other countries. For example, I never encountered it being used in Russia - e.g., something like Mozhaysk or Serpukhov are not definitely not considered a part of Moscow socially. Likewise, I don't think e.g. Oxford is considered part of London in the UK, and the London commuter belt is also a distinct entity. German cities also seem to be considered distinct from one another, though don't take my word on it. It would be good if somebody could highlight the differences in the cultural perception of the concept. --Humanophage (talk) 12:43, 22 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Metropolitan areas vs cities: use of concepts by country

message: I've started a discussion at Primate city#What is a "city", what a "metropolitan area"?, which is more relevant here and for the city and conurbation pages.
I see it as a matter of self-definition, which can be ideologically or politically driven, so not objective in any way. See for instance Jerusalem municipality vs. Tel Aviv & Gush Dan aka Tel Aviv metropolitan area. There must be many examples, but this one is arguably within the same country and therefore more poignant. The "city" might have less contiguity of its built-up areas than the "metropolitan area" or "conurbation", but being called a (or one) city makes it be at least perceived as more unitarian and compact. Conundrum. Arminden (talk) 06:29, 19 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is a "city", what a "metropolitan area"? 

message: This edit by User:107.127.46.35 adds a citation template to this article. I don't understand the justification for the edit, which is summarized in edit history as "Tagged". In order to improve the article, I'm asking for some guidance about what specifically needs to be improved. A number of editors have put effort into including reliable citations. However, reading the article now, most statements are factual and supported by legitimate sources. So I'm at a loss as to why the citation template would apply here, or what would need to be changed to justify removing it. Clarification would be appreciated, and absent any clarification I will WP:BEBOLD and remove it. Cleter (talk) 17:04, 18 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition of citation template