Talk:List of educational programming languages

message: What about Eiffel?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.130.71.87 (talk) 07:26, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know if Eiffel was ever intended educationally.  It seems to me from its inception that it was intended for commercial use.  It is only recently that eiffel has been free for academia.  Why would you propose Eiffel? jbolden1517Talk 20:10, 11 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Eiffel should not be included.  He was probably thinking of the teaching language Blue which was coded ~1997 and based on Eiffel.  Blue was forked and re-coded by one of the main developers based on Java and renamed BlueJ.  BlueJ is on the list.  See Eiffel for more info. Dtgm (talk) 14:45, 6 February 2014 (UTC)

text: Eiffel was created because Bertrand Meyer was frustrated, that other OO languages were not suitable for teaching (There was not a clear one to one relationship between OO concept and language concept). He wrote Eiffel and used it for teaching for many years. Because of its design, of being simple, as opposed to simplified, it is also a very good language for professionals. It still remains one of the best languages for learning Object Orientation, but probably not a good first language. ctrl-alt-delor 08:29, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eiffel anyone? 

message: Since this article is nothing but a list, I suggest moving it to List of educational programming languages. If we have an article in its place, it should thoroughly explain what an educational programming language is, their history, etc. As is, all the article is doing is listing languages. Thoughts? — FatalError 20:07, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Honestly I'd rather have a more thorough explination, history....  If you want to add that stuff it would be great! jbolden1517Talk 09:34, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well my point is that it should either be an actual article or just a list, we shouldn't have both on the same page. And seeing as how the content is not yet developed, I suggest moving this to the page I suggested above, and then creating a new page here with the actual content (once some is written). I'd write it myself but I know close to nothing about the subject (other than what it is...which we already have). — FatalError 09:57, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that it would be always better to improve the content rather than to move the article or to delete the content. Macaldo (talk) 08:26, 6 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  List? 

message: No mention of Game Maker? It is one of the most common educational languages. In Australia it is the most commonly used in grades 5 to 10.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.4.229.4 (talk) 22:46, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Its not in the cat.  It sounds like an EPL is it?  jbolden1517Talk 17:47, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's got a scripting language built in called GML (Game Maker Language) that is based loosely on Delphi, only with considerably more flexibility (allowing the code to end up looking more like BASIC or Java). But it's definitely a great tool for teaching game development.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.175.90.218 (talk) 04:57, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. GML can also be used to create normal applications (though it's terribly slow). My GML skills, when peaked, were highly advanced and made it easier to enter (Delphi) programming, so I have to +1 on the educational part. --Daniel-Dane (talk) 10:39, 22 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Game Maker]] 

message: I'm deleting the refs since the age spread is too large and I don't know if either is popular enough.  Plus they are both commercial.  To the people who are adding them do you have any WP:RS about their usage over such a large spread of ages (7-20?).  jbolden1517Talk 17:45, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  kodu and mama in chart 

message: Ought to be included? Described as a teaching language. 92.15.11.6 (talk) 17:11, 14 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[ABC (programming language)]] 

message: Shoud be included!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.66.64.245 (talk) 12:21, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gamestar Mechanic? 

message: IMHO, Scratch should be moved to another section rather than being in the "Smalltalk-based" learning path. Early versions may have been created using Smalltalk. However, the language's beautiful graphical interface doesn't lend itself to a single learning path. Its more of a tool that teaches the concept of imperative programming. Users can go onto practically any language from there. What does everyone else think? I recommend a "Multiple Path" category. --DevinCook (talk) 19:01, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scratch - Smalltalk learning path? 

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message: I have removed some ads for Wolfram here: , ,  for the reasons given in the edit summaries. Main reason: i.m.o. this not an educational programming language. It does not serve to educate the art of programming, but rather to work with a commercial product. Feel free to discuss. - DVdm (talk) 19:20, 23 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. Re-removed it- Spacepine (talk) 01:44, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wolfram not an educational programming language 

message: I've removed languages that weren't designed primarily for education purposes. I've also and renamed the main section to types of educational programming languages, and removed any reference to learning paths. Given that people learn to code using a variety of languages, some education based, some not, it is misleading to suggest that there is any one sequence of learning. Probably going to resructure the rest of the article too, input is welcome. --Spacepine (talk) 05:05, 4 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trimming 

message: While this article is quite informative, the lack of resources and citations is quite disappointing. 
I was assigned this task as a newcomer, but while cleaning up the grammatical errors and adding links, I noticed that there are dangerously few citations, especially in the "Children" section (which I think should definitely be renamed. I was wondering if a more seasoned editor could maybe try to cite this information, to improve the quality of this article?
Thanks!
-- Moonlit witch (talk) 17:50, 8 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requirement of Resources