Talk:Super Continental

message: Well, the article is in better shape now (but please see comments embedded in the text). But please continue to improve.  In particular, it is crying out for a good image, but I can't find one (that I want) that is PD or which I can reasonably claim fair use.  Could anybody contribute one of their own?  I am particularly hoping for one in CN green and black or CN black and white with a red-nose FP9 up front....  Fawcett5 14:22, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image 

message: JYolkowski, are sure about the Montreal electrification bit...even after they got them they were only operated between Winnipeg and Vancouver, at least at first. Do you have a ref? Moreover, those particular cars were not available until the Milw. Rd. cut the Olypian Hiawatha.... and CN was too cheap to buy new. Fawcett5 22:53, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I got it from Canadian National Railway by Tom Murray, page 84: "CP's Canadian used 173 Budd-built cars, including domes, which CN was prevented from using because of the overhead wires at Central Station, Montreal" (I'll cite it later).  JYolkowski 23:07, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Domes 

message: JYolkowski, thanks for the improvements to the article, I liked the improvement to the CN main pages with the new passenger train section too.  There are still a few points maybe you could clarify: 1. I'm not sure what you mean by 'mixing sleeping cars' in Winnipeg.  Were there two sections that met there? If so what were their numbers? 2. Did it run only from Toronto after it was restored?  The routing is a bit more complicated than I realised, maybe Al guy  would be willing to revisit the route map after it is all straightened out...  3.  Was there ever a time when sections met/split at Sudbury as with The Canadian? Fawcett5 03:26, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: With regards to question 1, they were exchanged between the Canadian and the Super Continental, not between two sections of the Super Continental.  With regard to question 2, I agree that the routing over the years is really rather complicated.  I don't know for sure, but I can find no evidence that it ever ran from Montreal between 1985 and 1990.  As for question 3, I'm not sure (although I would assume that something of the sort occurred).  JYolkowski 00:40, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)

text: CN's Pullman-Standard super dome cars were added to the Super Continental at Edmonton (west bound) or Jasper (east bound) and removed from the trains at Jasper or Edmonton respectively (rarely were they observed passing between Winnipeg—Edmonton). CN would use Skyline (club) dome cars for trains passing through the Canadian Shield between Ottawa—Winnipeg (or alternatively Edmonton). MelioraCogito (talk) 22:47, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues to be resolved 

message: CNR's Super Continental never ran between Toronto and Sudbury. The service ran between Montreal and Vancouver via Ottawa, North Bay, Sudbury N., Hornepayne, Sioux Lookout, Winnipeg, Saskatoon, Edmonton, Jasper, and Kamloops. CNR's passenger services to Toronto were via the Montreal—Windsor corridor. The map should reflect this.
Furthermore, to the point preceding this note, the Canadian was Canadian Pacific's transcontinental passenger service between Montreal, Toronto and Vancouver following the CPR main line west through Calgary. The Super Continental was Canadian National's transcontinental service between Montreal and Vancouver following the CNR main line west through Edmonton.  Both services operated under VIA for a period following VIA Rail's creation – VIA Rail using former CN Pullman-Standard equipment for the Super Continental route and former CP Budd streamline equipment for the Canadian route.
The Canadian service was discontinued sometime in the early 1980s, revived briefly in the mid 80s and finally discontinued altogether. The Super Continental (CN) route was renamed the Canadian in 1990 using the Budd streamline equipment while the Pullman equipment was retired.
MelioraCogito (talk) 22:47, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Route Map Incorrect