Talk:Rock dove

message: thumb|right|A red pigeon (amongst a flock of normal coloured Columba livia's in Australia)
Could someone with the expertise or sources add a paragraph about rare colourings?  Thanks. --99of9 (talk) 06:34, 23 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unusual colours 

message: - are you all involved in any educational project to improve this article. If so please do see the comments at WT:BIRD - you are welcome to discuss this (as is perhaps your course instructor). Shyamal (talk) 05:10, 4 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Physiology

message: I would have thought a section on the diet (preferred/natural and adapted) of these birds is at least as important as their parasites. Centrepull (talk) 14:51, 19 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diet 

message: I came to this page to learn what Pigeons normally eat and was quite surprised to find nothing on it's diet or feeding behavior. This is normally included in wikipedia pages on animals so shouldn't it be here?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.178.188.73 (talk) 04:07, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  No feeding section 

message: The whole Osmoregulation section does not fit in with the rest of the article. It is not clear how much is specific to this species, and how much to other birds or even other animals. The non-specific parts should be refactored to other articles, whether osmoregulation or kidney or the relevant clade (Columbiformes, chordata, or whatever). Also, much of it appears to have been written by a non-native speaker, making it even harder to understand. jnestorius(talk) 11:11, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I did copyedit on the section, but am at a loss on what should be done with it. It seems way-too-specific to be moved to osmoregulation or Columbiformes, and I'm not a good judge of the content to make substantial cuts. – Reidgreg (talk) 19:07, 7 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps we can move it to the Columbiformes page while mentioning that the study uses domestic pigeons. Afterall, they're used as model organisms, and modelling them for other columbids is less egregious than doing so for, say, humans. Anthropophoca (talk) 12:42, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Osmoregulation 

message: We shouldn't mention feral pigeons in this page. They've already gotten their own page, and i'm thinking to either move the sections talking about ferals to the feral pigeon page, or merge that page with this one or the domestic pigeon page.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Anthropophoca (talk • contribs) 12:19, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mentioning Ferals 

message: Before creating this account and editing this page, i have talked to a pigeon breeder who breeds birds for pets, Danielle Ramsey. She observes her flock on a daily basis, observing their behavior and temperament. When presented with the section in concern, she said this: https://theramseyloft.tumblr.com/search/scroungers
Now pigeons live in flocks, where both parents raise one or two squabs to weaning. The male educates his children in being an adult pigeon, one of them being the location of food and water. Pigeon flocks also employ navigators to find their way home after foraging: https://www.audubon.org/news/in-homing-pigeon-flocks-bad-bosses-quickly-get-demoted
Perhaps we could mention that their navigating abilities is an adaptation to return after foraging.Anthropophoca (talk) 04:19, 19 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Producers and Scroungers not being real. 

message: The article frequently mentions and depicts birds living in Western cities with atypical markings, which are feral pigeons sourced from escaped/released domestic birds. This falls outside the article's WP:Scope as this is an article discussing the wild-type bird inhabiting the Middle East and South Asia. This seems to be a persistent problem as misconceptions on the nature of and generic term "pigeons" is endemic in the english language. Anthropophoca (talk) 07:42, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree on the article's scope. It's scope is about the species, full stop. Some populations of the species are naturally wild, while others have regained their wildness (feral) after being released or escaping captivity. - UtherSRG (talk) 12:15, 2 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The feral pigeons wouldn't be so prevalent in the article if we adopted a similar standard to other wiki pages about feral animals; razorback, brumby, mongrel, strays. These animals get their own pages, even when they possess living ancestral species. There is already a page about domestic pigeons, so my proposal would just be to move all the information about ferals there. All links to this page would be to that page as the ferals aren't truly wild, having fancy pigeon blood in them originating from dismantled lofts. Anthropophoca (talk) 23:10, 11 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree the bulk of this page should be about wild Rock Doves, not feral or domesticated birds, as they each have their own pages. I've made a start by changing the taxobox pic to wild birds. Feral and domesticated birds should just have brief paragaphs with 'see main article' links to their pages, and most of the pics of non-wild birds moved to those pages. - MPF (talk) 17:08, 27 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clear separation between wild Rock Doves and Feral Pigeons