Template talk:Shades of violet

message: For the approximations I used a sample of the colors from the Durham University webpage for palatinate. A sample of the color in the picture :Image:Iris latifolia.jpg for iris, and the color purple for purpure. PaleAqua 05:48, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem with the shade for palatinate, is that no one seems to be really quite sure what colour palatinate actually is. My understanding is that it's quite a bit paler than the shade currently used by the University of Durham's PR department and on the website; certainly, if you visit Durham, you will see several different shades in common usage. Apparently the colour originally derives from cloth on Bishop Van Mildert's coat, but these may be faded over time and I cannot say I have ever seen a "true" sample of the colour myself to confirm. DWaterson 20:04, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  The colour on this page is the one currently used in the University logo, but is a shade that wasn't particularly commonly in use until the rebrand last year.  The shade described as palatinate in the University's academic dress is substantially paler - see here (the hood lining colour) - more like what's currently described as mauve or orchid.  This isn't the nicest purple in the world, though, so other purples are often used instead of it in other circumstances.  I suspect that the most authoritative palatinate would be the one on the academic dress - I don't think that the new University logo colour is claimed to be palatinate, merely purple - but I don't think there's an official definition. TSP 14:16, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:   I'm still wondering what the best approach is too handle colors with out a standard color swatch, especially palatinate, iris and purpure. I noticed someone else removed the approximate label I had placed on the swatches. If we are going to use navigational templates it would be nice to have all the colors that apply in them. I noticed that other similar templates do not include all the colors from there category. Perhaps, put the colors without swatches at the bottom or omit them. PaleAqua 08:07, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Palatinate

message: Suggestions have been made to move and/or split this template to Template:Shades/Variations/Varieties of violet/purple. Jimp 00:52, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Moving or splitting the template

message: Compare these.
                            	                            	                            	                            	                            	Current version                  	Current version                  	                            	                            	                            	                            	 
Amethyst                         	Cerise                           	Eggplant                         	Fuchsia                          	Heliotrope                       	Indigo                           	Lavender                         	Lavender blush                   	Lavender gray                    	Lavender rose                    	Lilac                            	Magenta
                            	                            	                            	                            	                            	                            	                            	                            	                            	                            	                            	 
Mauve                            	Mountbatten pink                 	Orchid                           	Palatinate Purple                	Persian indigo                   	Purple                           	Red-violet                       	Rose                             	Sangria                          	Thistle                          	Violet                           	Violet-eggplant
                            	                            	                            	                            	                            	                            	                            	                            	                            	                            	                            	 
Wisteria                         	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	
                            	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	
Shades of violet without swatches	Shades of violet without swatches	Shades of violet without swatches	Shades of violet without swatches	Shades of violet without swatches	Shades of violet without swatches	Shades of violet without swatches	Shades of violet without swatches	Shades of violet without swatches	Shades of violet without swatches	Shades of violet without swatches	Shades of violet without swatches
Iris                             	Purpure                          	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	                                 	
   	          	           	  	            	Proposed version	Proposed version	    	         	        	        	 
Amethyst	Cerise         	Eggplant        	Fuchsia	Heliotrope       	Indigo          	Iris            	Lavender 	Lavender blush	Lavender gray	Lavender rose	Lilac
   	          	           	  	            	           	no swatch       	    	         	        	        	 
Magenta 	Mauve          	Mountbatten pink	Orchid 	Palatinate Purple	Persian indigo  	Purple          	Purpure  	Red-violet    	Rose         	Sangria      	Thistle
   	          	           	  	            	           	           	no swatch	         	        	        	 
Violet  	Violet-eggplant	Wisteria        	       	                 	                	                	         	              	             	             	
   	          	           	       	                 	                	                	         	              	             	             	
Which is better? Jimp 07:05, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I prefer the 2nd version myself. An older version of this template did have a similar layout though it used approximate colors for the swatches. I believe this is the only navigation that includes colors without swatches. I'd also recommend taking any discussion on these templates to Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Color. PaleAqua 15:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No swatch