Talk:Gallup (company)

message: The stub article about Gallup Europe should be merged because information about a subsidiary fits better in one artice about the parent organization  —Preceding unsigned comment added by CZmarlin (talk • contribs) 03:07, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree. -Pgan002 (talk) 00:49, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've found Gallup Europe being merged. What about merger proposal from Gallup poll? I'd agree with that one too..  2aprilboy talk 12:46, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger proposal

message: Where are Gallup polls funded from? This is an important issue that may bias the polls or at least public perception of the polls.  I can't find anything about it on Gallup's website. -Pgan002 (talk) 00:51, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Funding?

message: Not much history of the last 15 years of the organization, nor its governance, Board of Directors, top managers, are easy to find. I have never been thwarted before in finding who runs an organization. Very odd.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mydogtrouble (talk • contribs) 18:37, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Management, Board of Directors, top managers - Information, please?

message: Article is mainly corporate propaganda; no discussion of valid criticism of Gallup methodology by Alan Abramowitz (Alben W. Barkley Professor of Political Science at Emory University)Swantamer (talk) 19:11, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: No he actually said, "The Gallup Poll should be commended for making their internals available to interested observers for secondary analysis -- few other polling organizations are so generous with their data. And to be fair to Gallup, they have cautioned that these results are not a prediction of what will happen on Election Day, only a snapshot of current voter attitudes." Rjensen (talk) 00:35, 1 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article omits valid critcism 

message: The Coming Jobs War ISBN-13: 978-1595620552  Publisher: Gallup Press (October 4, 2011) 
97.87.29.188 (talk) 22:49, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Further Reading, by Jim Clifton 

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message: Hello, I'm here to offer some suggested updates to the article, beginning with the infobox and Gallup Press. Below I posted drafts for the infobox and Gallup Press in addition to markup. But first, a disclosure: I have a conflict of interest because I'm here on behalf of Gallup as part of my work at Beutler Ink. 
Infobox
The infobox is missing some key content, such as Gallup's former names, its industry, and where it was founded, among other things. My draft updates the following:
*The company has been previously called the American Institute of Public Opinion and Gallup Organization, so I included them in the Formerly called parameter
*Gallup belongs in the management consulting industry
*Gallup was founded in Princeton, New Jersey, United States, so I updated Founded to include the location
*Gallup's headquarters are at The Gallup Building, 901 F Street, NW, Washington, D.C., United States. I updated Headquarters to reflect this
*Gallup has 30–40 offices globally (2017), so I updated Locations  
*Jim Clifton's job title should be stylized as "Chairman and CEO", not "Chairman & CEO"
*Gallup's services include management consulting, analytics, research, opinion polling, and publishing, so I updated Services
*Citations are added throughout
 Infobox edits have been approved. AmericanAir88 (talk) 17:24, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: AmericanAir88: Per our discussion on your Talk page, do you have any time to review this request? Thanks for considering, Danilo Two (talk) 20:11, 15 June 2018 (UTC)

text: AmericanAir88: Of course. I hope you had a great vacation! Let me know if you have any questions. Danilo Two (talk) 19:32, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: AmericanAir88: Looks great. Thanks! I am currently drafting more proposed updates. I should be back here soon with more. Danilo Two (talk) 13:24, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request: Infobox + Gallup Press updates 

message: Hello, I'm here to offer an updated draft of History. Disclosure: I have a conflict of interest because I'm here on behalf of Gallup as part of my work at Beutler Ink. AmericanAir88: Could you review this request as you had reviewed my previous infobox and Gallup Press updates?
History as currently written is generally well-constructed, but there are some gaps that I hope to fill and some existing content is unsourced. This is what I've done in my draft, based on secondary sources I found in my research:
*Divided History in two subsections: Early history and Recent history
*Added citations for Gallup's founding
*Rewrote the second sentence of the first paragraph based on available secondary sourcing
*Added citations for Gallup refusing to conduct surveys commissioned by organizations such as the Republican and Democratic parties
*The sentence about David Ogilvy in the live article sources Gallup. I have used a new reference to rewrite this sentence to show that Gallup began conducting market research for advertising companies and the film industry, but deleted reference to Mr. Ogilvy. This was done to better reflect available secondary sourcing. 
*Added a new sentence that shows that by 1948, Gallup established polling organizations abroad, and its polls were syndicated in newspapers
*Removed the sentence on Gallup compiling video game sales charts in the UK. The reference contained a dead link, and I question if it is even a reliable source to begin with. Also, this article would get very messy if it listed all the charts and research Gallup has conducted over the decades
*Rewrote the content on Gallup's sale to SRI, adding that the deal was for an undisclosed price, the Gallup family remained active in the business, and shuffled the detail about the nonprofit George H. Gallup Foundation here
*Added a citation for the Gallup name giving SRI more credibility and higher response rates
*Removed "Today the poll is used to gain visibility", as this is a vague timeline. Additionally, I moved this point to the next paragraph
*Added two paragraphs on Gallup repositioning itself as a research and management consulting company following the acquisition by SRI
*Added a paragraph on Gallup's incorrect prediction of the 2012 U.S. presidential election and the company's subsequent six-month review of its methodology
*Moved the content from the existing Legal section and rewrote it. The Legal section was largely written off a Department of Justice press release. I reworked the content and added citations throughout. 
*Added a paragraph on Gallup deciding not to conduct horse-race polling of the 2016 election
*I added citations throughout, and tweaked language where necessary
I keep my Wikipedia contributions where I have a financial conflict of interest on Talk pages rather than directly edit entries, so I'm looking for editors who might be willing to review my request and update the article if things look neutral and well-sourced. Please ping me if you have any questions. Thank you in advance, Danilo Two (talk) 13:32, 22 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: AmericanAir88: Thanks for moving my History draft live! I noticed the Early history and Recent history subsections are each one long paragraph (in other words, the paragraph breaks from my draft are lost). Was that intentional? If so, that's fine, but I wanted to flag it here in case not. Also, now that the material on Gallup's settlement with the U.S. Department of Justice is included in History, can you remove the Legal section? Thank you again for your help with this. Danilo Two (talk) 18:55, 29 June 2018 (UTC)

text: AmericanAir88: Looks great. Thanks. Danilo Two (talk) 19:45, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request: History updates 

message: Hello, I'm here to offer a new section containing key details about the Gallup organization. My proposed Organization section contains important detail not covered in the body of the article (For example: Gallup is a private, employee-owned company. It is based in Washington, D.C.) This draft includes some detail that is currently in the introduction (For example: Number of Gallup offices and employees). However, I am also working on an updated introduction, in which I plan on suggesting that particular information be removed from the intro. My Organization draft includes the location of Gallup's D.C. headquarters, its Omaha campus, leadership, and clarifies that Gallup is not related to other organizations that use the Gallup name overseas.
Disclosure: I have a conflict of interest because I'm here on behalf of Gallup as part of my work at Beutler Ink. AmericanAir88: Could you review this request as you have my others? Thank you in advance, Danilo Two (talk) 21:09, 25 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: AmericanAir88: Thanks for making the edits! If possible, can you add a paragraph break between the two paragraphs? Thanks! Danilo Two (talk) 20:32, 15 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request: New Organization section 

message: Hello, Following the closure of the discussion above, I'm here with a new request. Disclosure: I have a conflict of interest because I'm here on behalf of Gallup as part of my work at Beutler Ink. 
My request is as follows: 
*Can editors consider creating a new section heading titled Services and divisions, and relocating the existing material from Gallup Poll and Gallup Press within it? 
This heading could help keep all material about Gallup's various businesses in one place, and would neatly organize this article by details on Gallup the organization, its history, and its services.
I welcome feedback and thoughts from the Wikipedia community. Thank you in advance for considering, Danilo Two (talk) 19:26, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: no -- there is no evidence  these services are noteworthy.  You need major independent sources that say so.  In my opinion, absent the very famous poll, there is no evidence here indicating the company is not deserving of much attention. Rjensen (talk) 22:23, 20 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  I understand. I appreciate your review of these requests, and I will take your feedback with me back to the drawing board. Thank you for considering, Danilo Two (talk) 20:07, 21 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request: Addition of ''Services and divisions'' header 

message: Hello, Following feedback on my previous requests, I've gone back to the drawing board to draft new content that briefly explains Gallup's consulting business. Disclosure: I have a conflict of interest because I'm here on behalf of Gallup as part of my work at Beutler Ink. Editors' feedback on my previous requests was that any detail on Gallup's non-polling activities should be sourced only to major independent sources. With that in mind, I created the following draft, limiting detail to that which is written about in sources including Bloomberg Businessweek, U.S. News & World Report, The Guardian, The Wall Street Journal, Fast Company, Forbes, The Washington Post, and HuffPost. I also cut back on the amount of detail that I previously proposed. 
The reason I'm proposing this section is because the article puts a heavy focus on the Gallup Poll. While Gallup is mostly known to the public for the Gallup Poll, it's a fraction of the firm's business. And while not covered to the same degree as its polling, its research and consulting business has been covered by major press, in addition to regional press. For the sake of Wikipedia's guidelines and feedback I've received so far, I have only used major nationally known publications as sources for this draft. It's my hope that editors will find this draft neutral and properly sourced. 
Does this seem like a reasonable, short summary of Gallup's main business? If it's acceptable to editors, I would ask for it to be moved into the live article. Because of my conflict of interest, I won't edit the article myself. I welcome feedback and thoughts from the Wikipedia community. Thank you in advance for considering, Danilo Two (talk) 17:10, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: No, , it does not. It reads like more a press release: we don't write stuff like "Gallup is mostly known to the public for its famous Gallup Poll" here, as this is an encyclopaedia, not an advertising platform. Apart from the overtly promotional tone and the matter of native advertising, which I thought I had already explained above, it's also poorly written. Let's see: it has a student poll which surveys students? Is that really worth mentioning? – would it not be strange if it surveyed anything else? And then it measures student success? Sorry, but no. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:34, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, forgot to mention that a listing of products and services is specifically mentioned as one of the many things that  Wikipedia is not. See WP:NOTDIR: " (my bold/underlining). Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 21:40, 1 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Respectfully, I disagree with this assessment. My proposed content is not a "simple listing" of Gallup's services "without context"; it explains what these services are and how they relate to Gallup's work as a survey company. Additionally, the drafted content is not intended to be "promotional" and should not be confused with advertising; it is meant to convey straightforward information about services which are lesser known, but constitute the majority of Gallup's business. I believe this information would serve the reader's interest, and this is why I have offered it for consideration. Meanwhile, based on your comments, I've edited one sentence to read more clearly. I hope this modification will be recognized, by yourself or others, as willingness to find solutions and consensus to improve the content of this entry. Danilo Two (talk) 20:11, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

text: Thanks for reviewing and editing my proposal. What you have done here is fair. As for going through the article history: there have not been too many edits to this page over the last few years, so it was not too much work to find constructive editors to contact for feedback and guidance. Thanks again! Danilo Two (talk) 21:21, 4 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request: ''Services'' 

message: This is Mark, editor at Gallup. Much of this article has been updated in the last year, yet the introduction continues to offer a somewhat dated view of Gallup. For example: Gallup has not been structured as the live article indicates for years. To help the introduction summarize the article's most important contents, I propose this:
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Is it possible to update the introduction as proposed? I'm available to discuss this more if that is necessary. As a result of my conflict of interest, I will suggest edits on behalf of my employer using discussion pages only. Looking forward to working more with the Wikipedia community! GallupMS (talk) 19:25, 8 February 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for updating the introduction. Will you consider removing the second paragraph of the introduction: "Gallup has 30 offices in more than 20 countries, employing about 2,000 people in four divisions: Gallup Poll, Gallup Consulting, Gallup University, and Gallup Press"? This is an outdated description of Gallup's operations. Thank you for collaborating! 198.175.141.60 (talk) 15:27, 6 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Request completed.  Thank you! GallupMS (talk) 17:27, 8 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction