Talk:Forests of the Iberian Peninsula

message: Are these really forests of the Iberian Peninsula?  It seems to be something more like "vegetation regions" or "ecosystems" or something of that sort, as many of them don't really fit the definition of "forest". --Delirium 23:26, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Another editor has used the term "woodlands" when discussing the SPATRAnom. It seems to fit, so I'm using it. -Fsotrain09 23:07, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Sorry folks! got carried away and forgot to fill in the edit summary. Have tried to make some headway in the translation.--Technopat 15:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  forgot to fill in edit summary 

message: Cannot find any reference either in Spanish or in English to Yebela - I suppose it refers to various mountains named Djebel in the Saharan Atlas Mountains. Any feedback? --Technopat 15:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  query 

message: I can only participate in this in a rough and ready way, as I do not at present have access to my dictionaries. But as it is still at the rough translation stage, and anything is better than nothing (?), I hope you will bear with me. Thanx. --Technopat 17:12, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  please bear with me 

message: Read somewhere hidden in the text someone's doubt as to the best way to translate "setos" - any objections to "shrubs and bushes"? - --Technopat 01:35, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds fine. Long after the above comment I've put in "hedgerows", since the text seems to have that meaning of a line left at the edge of a field. Sminthopsis84 (talk) 14:32, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  setos 

message: Nasty thunder & lightning storm here and wanted to save page before losing it all! --Technopat 02:00, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Totally understandable in those circumstances, given the amount of data being saved. Thank you so much for your efforts, Technopat! -Fsotrain09 03:11, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  sorry for not edit summarising 

message: Any feedback on this one, folks?
I reckon that this is the one, but I can't confirm it:
Fabaceae
# Cytisus estilo enrrollado.
    * Cytisus purgans (L.) Boiss., piorno
    * Cytisus scoparius (L.) Link, retama de escobas, escobones;
# Colutea
    * Colutea hispanica (L.) Boiss., piorno, espantalobos. Arbusto de ramas verdes. Hojas alternas, pinnadas. Flores papilionáceas amarillas. Frutos en legumbres globosas con paredes membranosas y translúcidas. Al secarse las semillas quedan sueltas, produciendo sonidos al ser mecidas por el viento.
Will try to follow it up over time, but if anyone else out there knows these things ... . Thanx. --Technopat 08:18, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  piorno - piornales 

message: Am slightly confused: wikipedia articles on trees quite clearly capitalise the initial letters of the first two names of a tree. So far, have only come across plants and shrubs etc. wherein only the first word of the name is capitalised. Is this a biology/botany convention. I was slightly confused in the first place when I came across the two caps for trees but started to edit accordingly. Now I'm not so sure. In Latin it's clear, but for English names ...? Feedback, please. (I'm sure there must be summat 'bout this in wiki style sheets, but haven't time to check right now). Thanx. --Technopat 19:20, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is Wikipedia:Naming conventions (flora). I would ask this stylistic question on its talk page. -Fsotrain09 20:30, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Many thanx for your suggestions. It's clear in the case of Latin names, genera, etc. Have decided, tentatively at least, and for want of any clearer guidelines, to "cap" both words in the English name of the tree when it has a wikilink (as these tend to do so) and just cap the first part of the name when it appears later in the article and without a wikilink. As for other plants, I'm just "capping" the first word in the name. With common or garden shrubs etc., such as heather, thyme, etc., I don't reckon we should "cap" any of them, should we? But I'm easy and will (probably) follow the majority opinion on this issue. Regards, Technopat 23:08, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  To Cap or not to cap 

message: Sorry folks,
Undid my previous edit. I had come across a reference in an index to beechwoods and rushed off to edit this page. The other 300-odd references in the same book only use the term beech forest! --Technopat 10:56, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  beechwoods vs beech forests 

message: After seeing Jmabel's edit summary comment that perhaps a bilingual biologist would need to look at the article in order to polish the translation, I'm considering adding the article to Category:Pages needing expert attention from Biology experts.  I figure, instead of any of us searching for editors fitting the two criteria, listing the article there will alert people with the content expertise, and then those with the language skills will self-select. Any objections? -Fsotrain09 03:46, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good idea! I was beginning to get too emotionally attached to this article and it was getting so I couldn't see the wood for the trees! It's been fun collaborating with you folk - maybe we'll meet up at another article some time/place. If anyone has any answers to my doubts above, please respond. Long life to Wikipedia (and its Wikipedians)! Cheers, --Technopat 23:35, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need for a bilingual biologist 

message: Have just come across the following link to Nature which helps clarify at least some of the doubts that have cropped up over oaks:
Will try to find time to apply some of the things it brings up. Regards to all. --Technopat 23:09, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  detective work 

message: The Tejera Negra refers to a region of small "hamlets" (for want of a smaller denomination) to the northeast of Madrid and in the northwest of the neighbouring province of Guadalajara. Their main characteristic is their construction of stone and slate - hence tejera negra (black [roof] tiles). Have also included the reference to the other neighbouring beech forest in Guadalajara, as the tourist offices of the two regions both claim to have Europe's southernmost beech forest (basically divided down the middle by the river or mountain - don't remember which - that separates the two provinces/autonomous comunities, or whatever). I hope this ain't what is meant by original research! Regards, Technopat 10:30, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  tile works - deleted 

message: Have just come across the following excellent English-language external link  - might be of great use in perfecting the article page at this stage. Highly recommendable. Regards, --Technopat 12:38, 18 February 2007 (UTC)
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