Talk:The Sun in culture

message: There is emerging this new scientific discovery called the "Ahad radius", defined in Wikipedia terms as:
Ahad radius defines the theoretical edge of the Sun’s sphere of light dominion above the collective light contribution of the surrounding cosmic night sky. The existence of this boundary, at c. 11,500 AUs going radially outward from the Solar System in all directions, was first postulated and quantified by Abdul Ahad in July 2004. A preliminary outline of the concept was later published in October 2005 "How bright is the sky beyond our Solar System?", Letters section, Journal of Brit. Astr. Assoc. Vol 115, No. 5, Oct 2005, page 297 and featured in his fictional novel series First Ark to Alpha Centauri. Article in Mathaba News Network - February 1st, 2007
Therefore I propsed a new sub section be added, headed "In Science Fiction and Popular Culture" with the following text:
In fictional novels and the internet sub-culture, the Sun's light dominion presiding over the surrounding universe's background light is widely believed to come to an end at a fixed radius distance . That would mark an important psychological boundary for interstellar travellers escaping their home Solar System for the very first time in the far distant future. The concept of Sun gods and solar deities would also become technically invalidated beyond such boundaries, where Sun worship would become meaningless. 
Somebody reverted this, but I remain open to discussions on this matter.Uranometria 09:13, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You would need to prove that it is notable and relevant. At the very least, the second and third sentences are speculation (and as such not encyclopedic). --Ckatzchatspy 09:32, 18 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: * The second sentence is reasoanable: "In the far distant future, when we are ready to embark on interstellar voyages out towards the stars, the edge of this sphere will mark an important psychological boundary for travellers from Earth. Imagine that a species which was born and evolved throughout its entire history under the powerful influence and majestic light provision from its parent star.... is suddenly about to make that supreme source of all light and heat the secondary source of *total* illumination...". The third sentence seems reasonable too "And how many devoutly followed religions and ideologies both in the past history of our planet and in many corners of well known modern religions today are still adamant on some form of direct or indirect "Sun worship" based on a fundamental belief that the Sun is the most supreme source of light in the entire universe and the giver and sustainer of all life? And what would those religions be worth when one of their worshippers crosses this Ahad radius where the Sun gradually becomes the secondary source of illumination going beyond a trillion (10^12) miles or 11,500 AUs out from Earth in all directions?". At such a distance, a Sun wosrshipper's core pillar of faith would become invalidated because the Sun will no longer be the most supreme source of light to his/her local existence. Uranometria 12:05, 18 August 2007 (UTC)

text: * Above quotes are by Abdul Ahad  taken from the astronomy discussion Uranometria 23:47, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Science Fiction and Popular Culture 

message: Here's whats what.  There is a movie Zeitgeist based off some non-scholarly texts claiming that Christ is a sun-god because His "birthday" is December 25.  The day was adopted FROM the pagans for lack of any real knowledge of the day and to entice pagans to join the church by preserving their annual festivities.  It has nothing to do with Christ being a sun-god.  Based on this logic one might also falsely say he was a sheep-god (Lamb of God), a bread-god, a wine-god, a fisherman-god, and any number of silly things.  If you have the audacity to re-write the text books, at least have the foresight to cite something worth the silicon its stored in. I apologize if this sounds a bit rantish, but we in the Wikipedian community need to be on patrol for this sort of thing. Half of the information from that movie came from material left unchecked on Wikipedia long enough that some people started believing it was true.  Let us all be more wary stewards of Knowledge. Thank you. -Knowl  -<(I am questing for Knowledge!) (talk) 05:06, 10 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Christmas and Christ and the Sun?

message: In his book, Secrets of the Sun Sects, Christopher Jordan tells us that ancient Sun cultures did not actually worship the Sun: they simply used it. The worshiping apparently came much later: after successive administrations neglected education, and societies slid down the slope of ignorance to become entrapped in the hokum of religions. Before that, in the clear blue days of scientific enlightenment, most cultures were using the Sun to cook their food, boil their water, and heat their homes. The more sophisticated communities developed solar tools for melting steel, cutting stone, and creating weapons. According to Christopher Jordan, previously a research scientist, but now living in Cambodia, even the most underdeveloped of the Ancients – folks who wandered the Earth more than two thousand years ago – could harness the power of the Sun with simple, spherical, mirrors, and store the resultant energy in big black rocks for later use.
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I ain't no scientist, but this passage seems kinda phoney to me... storing the energy in big black rocks ? Seriously ? Should I edit it ?
Cyd, August 6th 2011  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.158.227.252 (talk) 14:43, 6 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Really ?