Talk:University College Cork

message: This post is from 2004!  The National University of Ireland was dissolved early in 2010.  The article should be edited to reflect this.—Preceding unsigned comment added by QuentinPrice (talk • contribs) 
:Em. Can you explain that more completely? Batt O'Keefe may have made an announcement in January 2010 that he intended to dissolve the NUI, but (as far as I'm aware) the NUI is still an extant body. Certainly they are still operating. The articles of all the constituent colleges (UCC, UCD, NUIG, NUIM) all reflect this current state of affairs. Guliolopez (talk) 11:02, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wow This information is OLD! 

message: I have moved the article from " National University of Ireland, Cork" to "University College Cork - National University of Ireland, Cork" to reflect its official title. Djegan 17:16, 27 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved Article 

message: any thoughts on adding in the myths of the college? like the back story to a graduate walking across the quad will fail and stories like that? might interest a general reader.
Burklert 10:06, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. I'm not sure. It would be very easy to get decidedly "unencyclopedic" very quickly. I certainly wouldn't recommend creating a "myths" section, as it would get out of hand with NN/Unverified stuff very quickly. I would recommend taking every myth or superstition on its own merits. In that vein, with regard to the "cross the quad and fail" superstition, if you can think of a way of presenting it as a tradition (based on a superstition) that doesn't invite 100 other unsourced (minor/NN) "myths", then go ahead. (But please try and do it within the guidelines on Cite/Verify/etc). Guliolopez 11:10, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Myths

message: :However the Boole Library, named after the first professor of mathematics George Boole, has not expanded in line with the rest of the university
On anon added the following to the above sentence, another removed it. I've left it here for verification... (though it seems a likely enough pun/expression):
:, its lack of space and long queues are legendary, so much so that at any relatively short queue, students can be heard to exclaim "CoolaBoola!"
zoney ♣ talk 16:33, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Local expression

message: The article should probably have a famous alumni section. Anybody know who can go in there? Fiona Shaw is definitely a UCC graduate. Graham Norton and Cillian Murphy both went to UCC, but didn't finish their courses, so probably wouldn't count.
We should copy the example of the excellent TCD site? Need an alumni section??
:I agree there should be at least a famous alumni section, and perhaps a separate article if there are a lot of notable people.A bit iffy 12:43, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Alumni

message: I've removed a link to a page on Des Clarke (a Philosophy lecturer in UCC) from the "See Also" section -- it's unnecessary to link to individual lecturers on the main university page, especially in the absence of any other similar links - Midos 14:27, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed Guliolopez 14:38, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Small Edit 

message: This article has been renamed from University College Cork - National University of Ireland, Cork to University College Cork as the result of a move request.
 - move. Keith D (talk) 13:38, 24 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Move request

message: If my memory serves correctly, UCC was featured in an episode of "How I Met Your Mother", would it be suitable to include a section? Sheodred (talk) 09:54, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think so. My read of the relevant guidelines is that "fleeting references" in TV shows/etc don't warrant a mention. Any such mentions are generally symptomatic of (rather than contributory to) a subject's notability, and so best avoided. Guliolopez (talk) 22:46, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular Culture Section 

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message: It seems that the college's motto as Gaeilge should be listed on the page since that's the one that hangs over the main gate.
"Ionad Bairre Scoil na Mumhan"
Avitus27 (talk) 20:18, 27 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motto in Irish? 

message: The intro/lead is starting to become a list of awards. This isn't in keeping with MOS:LEAD (which suggests it should "define the topic and summarize the article body"). If there are many of these awards, and they are all worth listing, then (IMO) they should be covered in the "Today" section (or new/specific "Awards" section), and the lead restored to what it's supposed to be. (A summary - including even a summary of the awards - not an exhaustive list of em) Guliolopez (talk) 12:21, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Since I made the above comments, we've added yet more "awards" to the lead section. It really does now read like a "list of awards" - rather than a lead section that is consistent with guidelines. Unless there are other opinions I will be reformatting the lead section to align with MOS:LEAD, and moving the bulk of the "awards" text to a sub-section of the "today" section. Guliolopez (talk) 16:31, 14 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards in lead 

message: Doesn't meet WP:ORG or WP:GNG, but perhaps worth a merge here. Pinging  and . Best wishes, Boleyn (talk) 17:52, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Inclined to agree. Without cites or external sources that support notability, it would seem to fail WP:SIGCOV. The article for the equivalent NUIG society would seem fail the same criteria. (No cites. Nothing to indicate that either should have Wikipedia article.) I would note that the UCC Socs page lists ~100 societies - we are steering towards using WP as a hosting platform if each were to be covered separately. Merge/redirect or Merge/delete. Guliolopez (talk) 20:40, 27 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge proposal: [[An Chuallacht, UCC]] to here 

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message: The current article does not show independent notability Aloneinthewild (talk) 20:43, 18 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: * - As no other opinions, objections or thoughts have been forthcoming in the several months since this merge was proposed, I have gone ahead with it. Further cleanup (and perhaps summary) of the merged content is likely appropriate. If there are no other contributions I may undertake that myself also. Guliolopez (talk) 01:06, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Cork School of Architecture]] 

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message: In this recent edit, a photo of a sign showing this map was added. I'm firstly not sure if this is really justified as, while useful, it doesn't really describe the college (also, it's very difficult to read). Would it not make more sense to place this link in External Links? Also, I can't find any mention that it is a free-use image, and a plain photo of it would therefore not be free-use. Wasechun tashunkaHOWLTRACK 17:04, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. I had two reactions to this image. The first was the same reaction/concern as you raise. (That a less-than-high-quality photo of an informational sign/map does not really add much to the article.) The second was a copyright concern. Namely that the content of the informational sign/map (the map itself, the logos in it, the images in it, etc) are likely subject to copyright. In short, a direct "photo of a photo" isn't likely to be considered a derivative work, and is (at best) questionable in copyright/licencing terms. In short: I have removed the image. Guliolopez (talk) 19:42, 22 October 2017 (UTC)
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message: I find the introduction to this article places far too much focus on the name changes UCC went through over the years. It also makes rather unnecessarily detailed reference to various pieces of legislation that caused or supported these.
Perhaps it would make more sense to open with a paragraph that places the university into context? UCC is, after all, one of Ireland's leading and longest established academic institutions. Describing how it forms part of the fabric of Cork City and the key role it plays in Irish academic research, education and cultural life and also the contributions it makes international research etc etc would make it a more interesting read.
It might be better to put the name changes into a paragraph in the history section? They really aren't very interesting to someone who casually stumbles upon the article, or who might be interested in finding out about the university for academic or tourism reasons.
It needs an opening section that introduces UCC, summarises what is all about and draws readers into the full piece.
109.125.18.216 (talk) 02:35, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi. There is a project guideline on this topic. Namely that the lead should lead "identify the topic and summarize the body". If you don't think the current lead upholds this norm, then please propose specific changes. Or I can take a look. (I would note however that "finding out about the topic for tourism reasons" isn't really in line with WP:LEAD or WP:NOTGUIDEBOOK norms). So if proposing changes, bear that in mind.... Guliolopez (talk) 09:42, 29 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Introductory paragraph - too much focus on name changes?