Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Final Fantasy/archive3

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*Should we move the classes from (character class) to (Final Fantasy), such as Black Mage (Final Fantasy), and make the (character class) articles disambiguous? They just seem so cluttered the way they are now, and it would make it easier to standardize them. ~ Hibana
**I think so, after all, most article are called like that. A good exemple would be Weapon (Final Fantasy). I vote for it, but before moving a page, I'd wait for the approval of one more person. – DarkEvil 19:49, July 20, 2005 (UTC)
*Does anybody else agree that this should be done? I'm pretty anxious to begin. :) ~ Hibana
**I'm not sure, myself. It seems like it would be difficult to provide full articles for some classes, and splitting up, say, Thief (character class) between thieves in the Final Fantasy series and thieves in other video games almost seems a little excessive. That being said, it would make administrating the articles easier from our perspective, except that I sort of expect that we'll be getting semi-regular merge requests.... I honestly dunno. – Seancdaug 16:32, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
*We can't make the "(character classes)" Final Fantasy only because FF takes these character classes from Dungeons and Drgaons. So, if it should be anything it should be D&D related. Which sucks. But we can use the infobox on every page and make it standard (ie. every page has certain information in it). We'll need to include D&D somewhere, so how about we have a few sub-headings on the character class pages.
Top paragraph - standard in all articles, minor description of the character class, but not limited to Final Fantasy games.
Reference - what the class refers to. White Mage will have something like this while Beserker has ties with the history books, and some others are D&D-created.
Final Fantasy - here's where the FF-status comes in (so it's the most obvious and significant section). We'll have to include how the class appears in each FF (remember Bard and Songstress is practically the same thing), what magic they use etc.
Can you tell I've been thinking about this for some time? If you have any ideas on what the standard should be we should decide on something before someone starts the change. — Cuahl 16:39, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Character classes 

message: I didn't even know there were any articles on the FF soundtrack albums until I went to the WikiProject page and noticed the example link of FFIV: Celtic Moon. I think it would be a good idea for the main articles on the games to contain links to the pages on albums related to the games. --Zilog Jones 20:44, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links to albums/other related articles 

message: Peeps are currently working on Final Fantasy VI.
To help out, go to the articles Peer Review.  
*Do you guys think the article is ready for a regular peer review by non-CVG people?--ZeWrestler  Talk 14:58, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Featured Article Drive 

message: At this point in time, I believe that the FFVI article has reached a point where it is ready to be considered as an FAC.  As a group, editors from this project have worked on the article for nearly 2 months. Since then, Final Fantasy VI has received a lot of work to get its status raised to FA.  As of today, I have closed the peer review for the article and nominated the game for FAC, Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/Final Fantasy VI.  Great work to everyone who has contributed to this article and helped make this what it is today. Now the final phase for the FA drive, please read the article over and vote appropriately on whether or not the article deserves to become a featured article. --ZeWrestler  Talk 14:12, 31 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Final Fantasy VI FAC

message: A while ago, Warpedmirror provided these links Cid as an Oglop; Cid as a frog; Cid as a man to the different forms of Cid from Final Fantasy IX. I managed to take in-game screenshot myseld of the three forms of Cid, in PNG format, which makes them a little bit smaller file size, and non-lossy or non aparent loss compared to JPG. Here are the links to the in-game screenshots: Cid as an Oglop, Cid as  frog & Cid as a man.
I didn't know if you wanted these instead of the one on Cid's page because my human Cid is a little bit smaller due to being a screenshot directly from the game while the other one was probably resized. – DarkEvil 00:40, July 25, 2005 (UTC)
:Be bold, DarkEvil — Cuahl 01:16, 25 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cid 

message: We really should organise some wort of style guide (when I say we, I mean I will later ;) for the Final Fantasy articles. I've been proofreading a few lately, and I see a few things occuring that don't follow Wikipedia's guidelines. If we want this project to succeed we really should work on following the rules. It's only simple things like repeating links (ie. Final Fantasy in the title, but then Final Fantasy futher down, when it should be italicised) etc.
I hate nagging, but I'm trying to bring in Wikipedia policy. — CuaHL 17:50, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, people so seldom italicize game names when they do in fact need to be. --Dalkaen 13:36, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
Can people please add to Wikipedia:WikiProject Final Fantasy/Article style and then we can create some sort of guideline help for FF-edits? — CuaHL 23:26, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Style guide 

message: Should WP:PJFF expand past just Wikipedia? — CuaHL 17:50, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikibooks, Wikiquotes? 

message: *New thought that came to mind.  People are saying that we need to put in information in this article that is not picked up through the game and gamefaq.com.  Why not at a section about what were the games sales like? --ZeWrestler  Talk 18:52, 1 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New suggestions for reworking Final Fantasy articles 

message: I was thinking of starting an article about the various items found in the Final Fantasy series. We already have a few lists of locations and articles on summon magic, traditional magic, and character classes. It seems pretty fitting to me to have one because it's something that's remained relatively constant throughout every game. Of course, it would have to include common items like Potions and Pheonix Downs, but it could also be a place for special items like the Slave Crown. It could also explain the differences in the item systems of the games, such as how Final Fantasy II only allows items to be used in battle if they're equipped. I'd like to get everyone's feedback on this. ~ Hibana 18:33, August 2, 2005 (UTC)
*An article like that could be useful, as long as it doesn't go into the area of fancruft.  Other than that, it would deffinetly serve as a way of removing small articles about items that wont really receive much growth.  --ZeWrestler  Talk 18:57, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Items in Final Fantasy 

message: ====Images====
If you haven't seen it lately, take a look at Final Fantasy bestiary. The work User:DarkEvil has done is incredible.. and the amount of images included is insane. But that worried me just. The article shouldn't really be a image link dump, and we should be showing images rather than linking them right?
So here's what I propose (to all who have opinions on this). How about after every mention of the creature we put a small image after it, and then people can click links knowing they are images they're clicking on. It's hard to describe, so I threw what I was thinking up at my sandbox, here. What do you think? Links or little pictures? Great work though, DarkEvil. — CuaHL 03:54, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final Fantasy bestiary 

message: If you haven't seen it lately, take a look at Final Fantasy bestiary. The work User:DarkEvil has done is incredible.. and the amount of images included is insane. But that worried me just. The article shouldn't really be a image link dump, and we should be showing images rather than linking them right?
So here's what I propose (to all who have opinions on this). How about after every mention of the creature we put a small image after it, and then people can click links knowing they are images they're clicking on. It's hard to describe, so I threw what I was thinking up at my sandbox, here. What do you think? Links or little pictures? Great work though, DarkEvil. — CuaHL 03:54, 4 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Images

message: Continued from: Talk:Final Fantasy bestiary
Official discussion: WP:Help Desk
How about subpages? Like Final Fantasy bestiary/A-M and Final Fantasy bestiary/N-Z? Would that be within Wikipolicy? — CuaHL 04:00, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Article Size

message: How about a Wikipedia:Wikiportal for Final Fantasy? What does everyone think? Also, are we covering Wikibooks and Wikiquotes? — CuaHL 04:12, 5 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikiportal? 

message: Hey all. I have a proposal - hear me out :). User:Seancdaug started this WikiProject with the Final  Fantasy editors in mind, but I don't think anyone expected this much. It got me thinking - there must be an easier way to organise the Final Fantasy pages and project and that. Looking at the amount of pages there are, and then thinking about the amount of pages there actually could be (I do mean quality articles, not stubs) - there are a lot. To be honest, I think that deserves its own community, and I don't think we need to rely on WikiProject CVG all the time (I'm not saying they won't be any help..).I think it's time we rearrange the front page of this Project and bring in useful things like the index, the to do list, and the date catalogue etc and make them more useful to those in the project.Also, how do people feel about making a FF peer review? That way we could have a page where people could say "proof read this for me" or where me and DarkEvil could get another opinion on the Final Fantasy bestiary. And how about our own collaboration of the week/fortnight/month where we can all help each other? I'm useless at explaining things, but maybe you catch my drift. I'm also interested in finding out who's still actually involved in the project. Ideas? Comments? Flames? — CuaHL 14:20, 7 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  New WikiProject? 

message: Ok, in responce to the topic above, the question has been asked how many of us are still active in this project?  Now is the time to find out.   sign this list if you still activly contribute to this project with # ~~~~  --ZeWrestler  Talk 13:00, 8 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roll Call 

message: I mentioned this on the List of Final Fantasy VII locations talk page, but I figured I should draw some attention to it here as well. Here's what I said:
The word Midgar is actually cut off in the article because the top left hand picture covers it up. Any idea how to fix it without messing up the whole layout? --Vanguard 14:57, 28 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of Final Fantasy VII locations]]