Talk:The Hidden Fortress

message: I removed the following. It says it's describing an unusual narrative structure. But it's actually describing utterly conventional storytelling ('character development follows introduction...' well obviously!). Maybe I'm missing something?
:The Hidden Fortress uses a non-traditional narrative structure in which the audience is only gradually introduced to each character, and is often misdirected about the nature of those characters. This is an idea that becomes a recurring theme in the script, as character development follows introduction and characters strip away their disguises to reveal unexpected aspects of themselves.
Cop 633 21:55, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed odd claim

message: The influence section which details the extent of how much Hidden Fortress influenced George Lucas and Star Wars is unnecessary and further, does not cite it's references.  This section should NOT be longer than the actual text that describes the subject of the main article.  I am a Star Wars fan myself but this main article should not be used as a Star Wars fan article.  I am shortening it unless there is contention to this. --Hokgwai 08:19, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Influence 

message: In the introduction the title is translated as "The Three Villains of the Hidden Fortress". Shouldn't it be "scoundrels" instead of "villains"?--Dvd-junkie (talk) 16:12, 29 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

message: Let's discuss the plot here. JoshuSasori (talk) 22:16, 2 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The IP and new editor from Texas has missed something in their reading of the subtitles. Tahei and Matashichi were not fighting for the enemy. Soldiers on the same side rarely take each other as prisoner. Another point is that, if they had fought for the enemy, then they would not need to avoid them to return to their home province. Finally they were being made to bury their own soldiers by the enemy just before we meet them. Having said that the plot could use an overhaul as it is confusing in a couple places and makes a leap or two over certain events. Per WP:BRD the article should stay in its original form until consensus to change it occurs. MarnetteD | Talk 00:33, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: From the edit summaries it looks as though this person has confused the opening sequence of the film and the later scene where Matashichi is mistakenly herded together with the line of prisoners. MarnetteD | Talk 01:44, 3 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: All I can see from watching the first part of the film is that the two intended to fight for Yamana, turned up late, were mistaken for Akizuki soldiers, then were forced to bury the Akizuki dead. But nowhere did they mention fighting in any battle. JoshuSasori (talk) 06:18, 4 November 2012 (UTC)

text: This may be a POV semantics problem. The Akizuki - in the persons of Rokoruta and the Princess - are portrayed as the protagonists throughout the film. Thus, IMO they should not be termed "the enemy" at any point in the plot description. Both the watchers of the film and the readers of this article will see the clan that defeated the Akizuki and that Hyoe is aligned with as "the enemy". I would say that if Rdmcelligott wants to have a go at reworking the plot after rewatching the film that would be okay - as long as you read WP:FILMPLOT first and realize that these should be kept short and don't get bogged down in detail - an easy thing to do with a film that you really admire. The article could also use a cast list especially since Susumu Fujita is not currently mentioned at all. As he had been Kurosawa's first lead actor it is somewhat interesting - to me anyway and yes I know that is POV - that he returned to work for AK again after several years. MarnetteD | Talk 01:25, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The two peasants initially seem to have intended to fight for the Yamana clan. I've just watched the first 1/3 of the film right now, the beginning part twice, and I can't think how this is a misinterpretation. I've edited the article as far as I saw it. JoshuSasori (talk) 06:18, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good. Thanks for clearing things up and my apologies to you both for my errors. I hope that you are enjoying seeing the film again. The scene of the prisoners revolting against their captors and cascading down the castle stairway is one of the most stunning and epic in all of film for me. Mifune's ride on the horse controlled only by his legs that leads him into Hyoe's encampment and the subsequent duel between the two is another great sequence. Cheers to you both. MarnetteD | Talk 17:30, 4 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let's discuss the plot 

message: The source regarding the inspiration on Star Wars no longer works. Klayman55 (talk) 23:19, 29 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link Rot 

message: The current article only has one review from the time of its release, and it’s f the 90-minute U.S. edit. We need some reviews from the Japanese press, as well as a review of the uncut version that played in English-language theaters in the late 1950s. Morganfitzp (talk) 12:16, 24 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contemporaneous reviews