Talk:Tour First

message: This article needs to be updated- see the french article for a more up to date version. The name has been changed to Tour First.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.241.129.77 (talk) 04:27, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Look, the official postal address of La Défense is "Paris La Défense". The name Paris was added on purpose by French authorities at the end of the 1980s if I remember correctly. Ask User:Metropolitan, he can probably confirm this. So the name "Paris La Défense" in the infoboxes is perfectly valid. Hardouin 23:32, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Metropolitan agrees with my edits. Look at my talkpage. --Bob 23:33, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have stuff shipped to me in Africa with a shipping address in the United Kingdom, does that mean that the Virology center in Entebbe, Uganda is in Cambridge UK? Following your logic it would. --Bob 23:41, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Look, the official name of La Défense as used by postal services is "Paris La Défense". Why do you insist we don't use official naming here? Nobody is saying these towers are inside the administrative City of Paris. In fact the exact name of the municipality is written in parenthesis below the name "Paris La Défense". Hardouin 23:44, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

text: You also reverted the lead of the article, whose wording I had improved, and there's no justification for that. Now it says that La Défense is west of Paris, which is ambiguous (Dreux is west of Paris), instead of the more accurate "west of the city proper". Hardouin 23:45, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The phrase was redundant. --Bob 23:49, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What is? Hardouin 23:51, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All of what you are trying so hard to put back in. --Bob 23:53, 19 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is not in Paris, so if it west of Paris, it is west of the city proper. This is redundant. Also, the transportation hub is not in Paris, but in Hauts-seine. --Bob 23:55, 19 September 2006 (UTC)

text: This is why so much of France doesn't like the Parisien attitude. Everything is in Paris, even that which is not. We have Paris, then we travel out of Paris towards the west, yes, out of Paris and we find ourselves in another commune. Now, since we have passed out of Paris, anything west of the point where we were no longer in Paris is west of the city. Simple. Saying west of the city proper is no less vague only badly written.  --Bob 00:06, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You know full well that the name "Paris" is used for the whole urban area/connurbation, that's why it's vague and ambiguous to say that La Défense is "west of Paris", as if it was in Normandy. What you're trying to do here is basically to bypass the discussion currently going on at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-09-10 List of Tallest buildings and structures in Paris. If you disagree with the fact that Paris is the name used for the whole urban area/connurbation, if you disagree with the fact that we say that La Défense is "in Paris", then express yourself on the mediation page instead of making edits to these skyscraper articles without waiting for the end of mediation. Hardouin 00:11, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes or no, La defense is situated across three communes none of which bare the name of Paris. --Bob 00:13, 20 September 2006 (UTC)

text: that the name "Paris" is used for the whole urban area/connurbation actually, it's not. Région parisienne maybe, but not Paris. Stop being disingenuous. --Bob 00:17, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: So you're basically admiting that you're taking sides and editing articles according to your point of view (the name "Paris" is used only for the City of Paris) without waiting for the end of mediation. That's precisely bypassing mediation. Hardouin 00:33, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I try to edit articles according to grammatical rules and fact. Now answer the question posed. --Bob 00:36, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Questions and answers are to be found at Wikipedia:Mediation Cabal/Cases/2006-09-10 List of Tallest buildings and structures in Paris. By ignoring the mediation going on and editing these articles with the point of view of those who believe that the name "Paris" can be used only for the City of Paris and that it is incorrect to say that La Défense is "in Paris", you have basically bypassed the mediation. I have informed the mediator of this. There cannot be trust in the mediation if some people think they are not bound by what is being discussed there and that they are free to edit the Paris skyscraper articles according to what they believe is right. Hardouin 00:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see you refuse to answer the question. --Bob 00:46, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
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message: Does someone could change that horrible pic of the tower which is absolutely out of reality. A day and (normal) night light would be better to show the building which absolutely doesn't seem like that 99% of time. 
Thank you.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.74.206.74 (talk) 21:26, 5 June 2012 (UTC)
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