Talk:Wii/Archive 8

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Could this be accurate?  More powerful than IGN has said. . . Infinitys 7th 23:45, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I say dont add anything that isnt confermed by Nintendo.--DivineShadow218 00:26, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

text: The stuff that the article got from Nintendo's website is already in this article .  The stuff about the speed isn't necessarily about the Wii's CPU itself, but rather about the specific family of CPUs.  Therefore, while 1.1GHz is what IBM currently says that the 750GX can run at , it doesn't mean that's the speed that the Broadway CPU itself will use. g026r 00:37, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Found New Specs?

message: It links to a page within Nintendo's Wii site, but I can't locate this large image or any others there. I'm curious. 24.76.102.140 00:35, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are a number of large images on the article now, for the controller and such.  These originate from the E3 Wii press kit, which is available at several places, among them here.  --Interiot 18:13, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where did the large Wii image come from? 

message: "'Wii' is also a seldom-used Japanese kanji, roughly translated as "constant change", or "if you don't like the fate that god has set out for you, you do this", or just "revolution"."  
I've never heard this before.  I'm going to delete it until somebody can get a cite for it.  If true, that's neat and I'm surprised Nintendo didn't mention it.  But I doubt its validity since Nintendo never writes Wii in anything but romanji.      dojotony 01:56, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Wi" can still be found on signs in Japan.  It is just uncommon.  There are many kana that do not show up regularly in the West. - Kuzain 16:18, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hopefully it will show: ゐ - Kuzain 16:20, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, but it's a moot point, as it's not what's under debate.  "Wii" is. Ladlergo 16:56, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Name: Wii Kanji?

message: There are a LOT that have been recently placed here; no less than three of just the system itself, and the licensing behind several of them seems to be questionable. Would recommend paring it down a little bit- and honestly after today the article needs some real cleanup work done to it. It's all... pieced apart. Daniel Davis 07:28, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excess of Fair Use images on this page 

message: I found information in regards the supposle launch titles Super Smash Bros. Wii and Metroid Prime: Corruption. In the information it says that both titles will launch sometime in 2007 and for both games they have confirm that. I didn't want to change it because i don't know if all the information change or they haven't said it yet, since E3 still going on. But I think the articles are not fake. Here they are, the first one is about Super Smash Bros. Wii: http://www.gamesarefun.com/news.php?newsid=6334
However for those that don't want to check the link, here it is what it says about that game: "...and Super Smash Bros. has been confirmed (again) for 2007."
The other about Metroid Prime has not been confirm so to say it is a launch title its just a thought, wish and hope. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Darthrare (talk • contribs) .
Smash Bros can be removed from the launch lineup.  IGN says it won't be out until 2007. Ladlergo 02:59, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Launch Titles... 

message: One of the snippets of information in 'price' was wrong so I removed it. I also readded some of the old info to give some 'guidance'. This section probably needs looking at - is it ok?HappyVR 17:54, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What was the incorrect info?  I don't consider EGM's $250 to be any more or less accurate than Sega's $200. Both are, after all, estimates made by people outside Nintendo. Ladlergo 18:14, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes - I'd would suggest removing Sega's estimate as well. My reason for removing the original EGM bit was that the article gave the impression that it was a 'nintendo quote'HappyVR 18:25, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I've commented out but not removed sega's price quote. I've also commented out what I assume is speculation about free games for pre-orderers...HappyVR 18:29, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Removing both is probably the way to go.  I suggest a mention of rumors setting the price at $200-250 with reference links to EGM and Sega. Ladlergo 18:35, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Really both are speculation - at present - I wouldn't suggest re adding the 'Rumour an Speculation' section though, but if people want this sort of thing that's what I think should be done. Also we already have the price limit which should prove good unless something happens.HappyVR 18:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: price

message: Suggest moving "At E3 2006, Nintendo announced WiiConnect24. The console can be connected 24/7, but will not consume more power than a small lightbulb, allowing developers to download updates onto consoles even "while you are sleeping." " to it's own subsection entitled obviously "WiiConnect24" - a section that might say something like this:
At E3 2006, Nintendo announced WiiConnect24. This is Nintendo's online service for Wii and is distinct from the Nintendo Wifi connection. At present no further details are available but it is known that the Wii can be left connected 24 hours a day to allow downloads or messages to be received even "while you are sleeping." 
Curiously the nintendo website says 'Wii can connect to the internet even when the power is turned off" ! I assume this means in standby mode - not unplugged?
Any comments?HappyVR 18:25, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I remember, they meant that it would be connected in standby mode.  It is a somewhat odd phrase, though. Ladlergo 18:34, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wii internet

message: Are there any video feeds of the conference freely available on the 'web' yet - if so suggest adding a link to the references at the bottom.HappyVR 18:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Gamespot has downloadable Low-rez vids availiable. You have to be a member of the site, but it's free. GameJunkieJim 20:27, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes great - have you got the web address (bangs head! I've seen this but haven't been able to find it again).Thanks HappyVR 20:30, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: E3 conference

message: It seems fairly certain that the 'classic controller' has replaced the previously mentioned 'shell' - no mention of shell at e3? - if so suggest cutting the shell info for good.HappyVR 18:51, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the "classic controller" is now how they're referring to the traditional controller shell that Nintendo said would be made available. Ladlergo 19:19, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: While more information really needs to be made available to tell for sure, I can't say that I feel that the classic controller looks like a shell.  To me it really looks more like a stand-alone controller.  (Why have it wired, if it was going to contain the remote?) g026r 19:37, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If it were wired, the wire would come out of the top.  I suspect that it's being held up by a white wire stand. Ladlergo 19:42, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But if you look at the larger versions of the picture, it does appear that the wire comes out the top, and is merely positioned such that it hangs behind and below.  However, I'm fine with leaving seperate information about the controller shell in until E3 is over, as we shall likely know for certain one way or another at that point. g026r 19:48, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I read somewhere (lost/forgotten) that the classic actually plugs into the Wii controller for some reason - and not the game cube ports...HappyVR 20:19, 10 May 2006 (UTC)

text: What you think is a wire, I see as part of how the controller is held up.  I keep on hitting reload in the hope that IGn will put up more information. Ladlergo 20:57, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why would they even show the stand, though?  After all, they produced plenty of promotional shots with the items floating in mid-air.  :Image:Wii remote5view 0501.jpg for example.  (However, I feel that we are likely getting off the talk page's acctual topic -- how to improve the article itself -- at this moment.) g026r 21:04, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you look at the official press release photos (from the link in the article) http://www.codebot.org/articles/?doc=9449 you will see that the wire does indeed come out of the top and is bent down and behind the controller in the photo.HappyVR 21:44, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: IGN has taken a photo of the shell, but I still can't figure out what's going on with it: http://media.revolution.ign.com/articles/707/707362/img_3593250.html  Ladlergo 00:39, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I suspect the classic controller will be for the virtual console, it has enough buttons to mplay all of the games and N64 games would probably work nice on it.Qwerasdfzxcvvcxz 02:04, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: IGN confirms that it's for the Virtual Console.  They also say that the cord goes into the remote, not the console.  That matches the setup found in one of their pictures. Ladlergo 02:20, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's apparent just from looking at the lightgun accessory that it's a shell - the "barrel" of the gun is a case for the remote control. so even if the classic controller isn't a "shell" as such, Nintendo is still using the concept. --67.62.109.178 20:05, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Shell

message: According to the press releases on the Nintendo Wii media site, the colours of the Wii are yet to be confirmed.  I'm going to add this to the article pending announcement of the colours. 81.153.150.118 19:17, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes - changed the wording a bit though.HappyVR 21:44, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Colours

message: When/where do we add Duck Hunt?  IGN says it's coming and the gun shell has already been revealed, making it a rather obvious game to have, but there hasn't been any media shown. http://revolution.ign.com/articles/706/706955p1.html Ladlergo 19:24, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's on the List of Wii games already, and has been mentioned by many game sites. LuminousSpecter 19:28, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was more wondering if it might get put under "Key first-party titles" at some point.  (As a side note, I believe "key" isn't objective unless Nintendo refers to a title specifically in that fashion.) Ladlergo 19:46, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Duck Hunt

message: Sorry to be a pain but is this true (commented out by me in article)
**Realtime Bluetooth audio streaming to up to 4 Wii Remotes via internal speakers.
I'm dubious about the realtime streaming bit - it's possible that 'samples' are stored on the remote prior to use - can the remotes speaker actually stream audio in real time?HappyVR 20:53, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: not if the controller had internal memory and was able to download now sounds from the web.--DivineShadow218 03:56, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

text: http://www.broadcom.com/press/release.php?id=854744 Broadcom themselves say the controller uses Bluetooth in this press release. --Smoke 02:57, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually, they have. Quite a few times over the years. I re-added the citations of both Nintendo's Japanese and American sites that say that the controllers use Bluetooth. Dancter 03:28, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Nthing the BlueTooth.  Nintendo even mentions it on their webpage. Ladlergo 03:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Controller speaker sound

message: http://www.gamasutra.com/features/20060329/sheffield_01.shtml doesn't say anything solid but is positive - is this the source of the rumour?HappyVR 23:15, 10 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: citation for bioware

message: Who is Mr. Roboto? I don't think that is actually the president of Nintendo's name. Someone find out what it is and change it please.Gopherbassist 00:40, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It was just a vandal attempting to be humorous. I reverted his/her edits. Please, when you see trivial items such as that within the article, simply revert it. Just compare it with the previous one, this individual in particular put innappropriate words in his edit, clearly indicating his ill will toward the article.--Theelectricchild 00:44, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:   有り難う --Interiot 01:13, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mr. Roboto?

message: I greatly shortened the Controller section, since it was identical to the main article for the the controller. This was reduntant, and the controller is notable enough and has enough information to have its own page. 66.87.91.36 00:58, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's maybe a little too short now - but it was getting a bit big. Thanks. However the distance of operation is questionable (see remote main page talk) and the text needs a bit of rewriting now..HappyVR 06:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Controller Section

message: Lock it up again. ~Captain
:I really don't think that should be done during E3. It's not that bad, there's just the occasional arguement and vandalism, as with most popular pages. It'll simmer down. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 03:58, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Why?  There's new information constantly coming out. Ladlergo 04:07, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: you cant stop people from editing, if it needs to be cleaned up then do a part to... its not that hard.--DivineShadow218 04:09, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is article is out of controll. 

message: I would just like to make a suggestion. Since we are getting more and more information about the games atleast that we adopt the format of the Gamecube article. I am just wondering why the games section is all the way down below the Parentl controls... let alone the features. I suggest we move the games section up above the hardware and thats all we move. Then we could add a grid of launch titles, and move the screenshots below that. Just look at the Gamecube article to see what I am talking about. Thanks for listening.--DivineShadow218 03:54, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's certainly a possibility, although right now there's going to be a few holes.  I do disagree with the GC's position of launch titles, though. Ladlergo 04:08, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: so do I... in this article the launch titles should be in the games section... of course--DivineShadow218 04:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Really think the table for launch titles with columns for developer and publisher is too much - surely all that is needed is the list of games - they're all linked anyway. Also not sure yet about the move of games upwards - could't features take a more prominent postion for similar reasons - personally I thought it was in the right order before.HappyVR 17:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

text: However if you 'insist' on having games first - I suggest this order - name,games,features,hardware,price,the rest.. any good?HappyVR 17:25, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Design and Format of the Page 

message: If Wii will have the Virtual Console which will play the FC(NES) SFC(SNES) N64.. will they release something simliar to the Gamecube Gameboy Player?
:I am olny speculating here... maybe the will release something that attaches to one of the USB ports... or maybe have something on the virtual console, both are possible but nothing has been mentioned--DivineShadow218 04:17, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gameboy 

message: The reference section is just huge, i think that if there are other articles the link to this page, such as the Wii remote and Wiiconnect24, there should be little referances from thouse sections in tehe wii article... if there are new referances, add them to the correct article. the references for this article should mostle be for the Wii itself. --DivineShadow218 16:30, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not as bad as it was pre E3 2006 - there were over 40 - now there's less than 20 - count on me to try to keep references to a minimum.HappyVR 18:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's nothing wrong with having several references though, so long as the text citing them is still in the article and hasn't been branched off to another one. Having references is one of the things Wikipedia is trying to encourage lately, since it increases the trustworthyness of the articles (especially important with all this media criticism) and allows users to check sources for themselves. -- Consumed Crustacean | Talk | 20:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: After e3 I dont think we would have to referance every single little thing. but once the nintendo wii site updates we can cut back the referances and just keep the site in the external links. --DivineShadow218 04:15, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: The director of Ubisoft France said it in Nintendo's press conference at E3... plus Wii Sports will also be a launch title...
And Call of Duty 3 is confirmed as a launch title?
:I checked two different live updates from the press conference and found them.  Thanks.
:http://revolution.ign.com/articles/705/705624p1.html  Here's Activision's list of launch titles. Ladlergo 16:50, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red Steel is a launch title 

message: Added WiiConnect24 subsection and moved some stuff to it. Please feel free to add to this now etc.HappyVR 17:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: WiiConnect24

message: searching for "Wii" or "Nintendo Wii" shows no results. "Revolution", however, works fine. Any hope of correcting that? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 83.31.142.164 (talk • contribs) .
:I have no problem finding this when I do a search for "Wii." Ladlergo 18:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problems with searching 

message: I made a change to the comment about the new name - I don't think 'wide criticism' is entirely accurate - more a combination of - why, Oh well, Great, No and 'time for some cheap jokes' - hence the change to the text.HappyVR 19:07, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, I've noticed there seems to be a lot of wheel warring about the pronounciation.  I've changed it so that it says the console is pronounced like "we", just like how it's used in the official press release.  Others have changed it to "wee" or to say "we" and "wee".  I don't understand the reasoning behind the other two versions, with the first being weasel wording and the second just being redundant since they're both pronounced exactly the same.  Anyone making these changes want to explain? --TheKoG (talk|contribs) 19:12, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: name

message: Could we just have a list of launch titles without the developer and publisher info - I can't see much relevence to this article and don't think that data is needed here?HappyVR 19:19, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure why it was added, and all of the information can be grabbed from the pages for each game. Ladlergo 19:26, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed the 'visual fat' - apologies to those who made the table.HappyVR 19:51, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Launch titles

message: Removed this
*A company that has mentioned being interested in the Wii is Bioware.
Not untrue - but a present not really enough info on what if anything this will lead to.HappyVR 20:07, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: removal

message: I have a feeling that the article is in good condition - now - "20:15, 11 May 2006 TheKoG (→Launch titles - How many times do we have to go over this?)" - maybe could be a good article candidate? if it were stableHappyVR 20:23, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Heh, yeah apparently some people haven't gotten the word that Brawl is no longer a launch title.  Other than that the article is looking very good.  Personally I'd wait until Saturday to nominate it, just in case Nintendo makes any more surprise announcements during E3 (like with Brawl).  After that the article should (hopefully) be stable for a good while. --TheKoG (talk|contribs) 20:27, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I thank User:Ladlergo as well - he/she/it has done some good 'tricky grammar' work.HappyVR 20:32, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. :) Ladlergo 20:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)

text: After the news has died down, I say go over this and remove the rest of the speculation, add some more details (whatever's known about the accelerometer etc), -then- nominate it. Ladlergo 20:36, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: yea... lets just wait till after e3 and see what we can clean up. --DivineShadow218 04:13, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Good?

message: Had to remove this:
Many people are exited by this online connectivity, especially with games such as Super Smash Bros. Brawl, considering the massive emphasis on multiplayer, as well as the possibility of downloads for new features (Although this is completely unconfirmed, many people still like the idea and hope it will happen).
It just doesn't fit in an encyclopedia article - sorry - maybe a considerable rewrite would make it suitable - the Wiiconnect section is definately a bit short at the moment - don't know.HappyVR 20:52, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: removal - wiconnect

message: Calling it a "dongle" is misleading. Dongles (under the original definition) do not add functionality, they simply unlock existing functionality. It seems likely
that the attachment is actually to mpeg decoder chip. This is the part
of a dvd player that most of the licencing fees are attached to. So
to avoid having all customers pay this fee, inculding those who have no 
intention of using the Wii as a DVD player, the obvious solution is to have
the decoder chip be part of this add-on. Tacvek 22:07, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm in agreement there, it is a tad bit misleading. Why not just omit the statment about the dongle, making it "additionally, at E3 2005, Nintendo revealed that a small internal attachment to be sold as an add-on to the console will allow the Wii to playback DVD movies"?Super_Genus 21:20, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I also agree...--DivineShadow218 04:12, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed 'dongle'HappyVR 06:55, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Internal addon for movie playback 

message: When E3 ends, I propose that we create a seperate article for 
the Nintendo Revolution, which would be dedicated to what was known prior to this year's E3, with a link to this article as a caption along the lines of "This article deals with information known about  prior to E3. For current information on Nintendo's next-generation console, please see Wii This would clear up all these unsightly rumors and speculations, which take away from the encyclopediac tone. Perhaps now wii (har) can start a "Wii Rumors" article.The benefits would be obvious. Super_Genus 21:20, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps...--DivineShadow218 04:11, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, you are speaking about the same product, and you will be keeping an article with outdated information, rumours and speculation and another with the current product. You can create a section in a "History" section adding all what has been known before Wii, but having two articles for the same product is not likely to work. -- ReyBrujo 06:05, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I vehemently disagree with this idea and am opposed to keeping around rumors and speculation about products/material that has already been released and confirmed to be untrue or whatever. If it is in some capacity notable (which I can assure you most of what you're talking about isn't), then make a note of it here. Otherwise, delete and revise. K1Bond007 06:12, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

text: I also disagree. The pre-Wii contents are preserved in the article history if anyone wants to read them anyway. Optichan 16:47, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Split? 

message: The above should apply to everything, but I will say my own preference: I think it's ridiculous to list all possibilities, why not WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE (sleigh ride), which is an English exclamation written "whee!". :)
I vote for "pronounced like 'we'", (important to keep the word like), just like their product announcement, since the word "we" is very common and immediately understood.
81.182.142.141 12:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Really give all possibilities? 

message: What about giving wē, which is a common transcription (not IPA) used by many English dictionaries, at least in America.  This is the transcription the [| Wiktionary page for we] page gives, and if our pronunciation is the same, we might as well give the same transcription.  I bet they have a bunch of linguists too all fretting over the pronoun (what normal person looks up or works on "we (pronoun)"?, so they're more qualified than we are about good transcriptions, in IPA and otherwise.
81.182.142.141 12:51, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have only been removing the text or "Wee". Nothing more. Havok (T/C) 12:54, 12 May 2006 (UTC)

text: It was hardly "heavy criticism"; no-one really said the name was awful per-se, but the name was heavily derided on internet forums for a couple of days. Plus, the Wii-Wee thing is almost exclusive to the US & UK; French, Japanese, German, Russian etc. Nintendo fans must far outnumber English speaking fans, and no other Wikipedia mentions this co-incidence. If the quote has to go in, I'd suggest "However, the name earned some derision from English speaking commentators for it's similarity to the word "wee", a slang term for urine" (incidently, as We & Wee are homonyms, saying "Pronounced like "we" or "wee"" is redundant).  smurrayinchester(User), (Talk) 14:25, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Other than the "wee" jokes, there was still a bit of confusion.  Most people said that the name was a poor choice for reasons like a) "Wii" is meaningless, b) the reasons for picking it must be explained and c)the pronunciation is unintuitive to most English-speaking people. If we have a section for criticism of the name, I'd also like to see those points. Ladlergo 15:45, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Another Possibility: wē (non-IPA dictionary transcription)

message: Maybe the sections 'name' and 'absence of hd support' should be moved to the bottom - possibly inside the section 'miscellaneous' (or 'wastebin').HappyVR 06:55, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestion

message: Removed a few now uneeded references due to nintendo releasing more info. Also cut the name section down to size - If there is any more to be said about the name it should be truly relevant - not just warm air.?HappyVR 07:07, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits

message: Is it possible to cut the references to wii sounding like urine once and for all, or indeed whether or not people 'liked' it - it just doesn't seem necessary to have this in the article - at all - the name is contentious but - so what. I'm suggesting maybe a vote or perhaps some feedback from anyone who feels it really needs to stay.HappyVR 20:11, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not to start this all over again, just to get more information on the table. The said, even on the website, Wii sounds like we, as in us. Wee is not us, Wè is pronouned Wee, not Wii or We. Proper English.--DivineShadow218 22:54, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I have no idea how to parse what you have written.  I am a native English speaker, and in every version of English I have ever heard, the two words "we" (pronoun) and "wee" (adjective) are pronounced identically.  If "Wii" sounds like either of them, then it sounds like both. --Saforrest 03:37, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Nintendo's choice to go with this particular name in spite of its connotations was extremely unconventional and highly interesting from a marketing view. How this name will be perceived in the long run, and how it will (if at all) impact sales, is equally interesting and significant. Removing all reference to the controversy eliminates knowledge upon which to build more knowledge. It may not be relevant to Wii fans, but it is certainly relevant to any large company which makes a decision about a new product name. Perhaps, a year from now, we'll at least be able to sneak in a reference to an economics paper without one of the Nintendo fans removing it.--Eloquence* 23:24, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Urine

message: Ok, In the article it says: "The development kits for the Wii cost $2000. By comparison, the PlayStation 2 development kits cost $20,000 at the console's launch, with the original PlayStation's SDK costing $4000-$5000 at launch." But, there's no comparison listing the price of the Xbox360 or PS3 Dev Kits. If the article's going to compaire price then it should list a price for a competitor of the same generation! Does anyone know the price for the Xbox360 dev kits? And I think the PS3 dev kits should be relatively cheep because their using open standards that are FREEly available!
:I think the point here is that (supposedly) the dev kits are cheap - and the 'facts' bear this out. However I'm not sure about the accuracy of this information.HappyVR 21:52, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Development Kits Price