Talk:Heard 'Em Say

message: What is said in the article about the video on MTV very well may be true, but I originally saw the video on VH1's Top 20 Countdown that was black and white and mostly animated.  This was later replaced on the Countdown by the department store version.  Could somebody please inform me? Omnijohn 03:41, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: On my local MTV they showed the store version first, then the cartoon one later. It seems that neither video was actually pulled, both were shown quite a lot, although Kanye West seemed to want to make the second one into the "official" video. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.146.47.250 (talk) 02:18, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Video

message: Why was the Gondry version pulled from MTV?  Was it the kids getting in bed with Kanye in the end?  The video was otherwise good, but Gondry's done far better before.
:As far as I know, it was changed purely because Kanye West was unhappy with the tone of the original video, he wanted something more gritty, hence the second video (the black and white animation by Plympton). Ironically, West didn't like the second one either, and said he regretted doing both of the videos!
:Personally I absolutely loved the first video, I thought it was a great contrast to the lyrics (sweet kids in the picture, but the song talks about terrible things). It was also a nice change from the usual adult-themed hip hop videos, this had a real innocence to it that referenced the sweet pianos. Innocence can be a very powerful theme if you use it correctly, and I think the first video used it correctly. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 212.146.47.250 (talk) 02:17, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Why was it pulled?

message: Kanye West says; "i know the government administered aids"
what evidence is there that it's man-made? I hate it when people say "the government put drugs and guns into the communities." he is great, though. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.156.175.216 (talk) 23:56, 20 December 2007 (UTC)
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