Talk:2008 NCAA Division I FBS football season

message: I am not sure what the date is, but maybe someone can put an "as of" date next to the conference standings next time they are updated. Thanks NeuGye (talk) 00:38, 28 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date 

message: Do we have specific rules on how ties are broken in conference standings?  I've been editing some conferences and I just want to be sure we're consistent.  ESPN's rules for this seem to be inconsistent.  I propose that teams are ordered:
#By conference winning percentage
#If that is tied, order by overall win%
#If both are tied, order alphabetically
Maybe as the season gets closer to the end we start dealing with head-to-head matchups or conference tiebreaker procedures but we might drive ourselves nuts trying to do that every week. Thoughts? oren0 (talk) 20:05, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Those are the general rules i've been using as well, and I think most others do the same. I'm fine with those rules. Ryan2845 (talk) 20:09, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

text: No conference that I'm aware of uses it to actually order teams.  But sites that list conference standings do (have a look at ESPN's MAC standings, e.g.).  It just makes the ordering seem less random and allows us to be consistent.  I'd say that we should use the actual tiebreaking procedures for all conferences but people won't know them and it'll be more work. oren0 (talk) 21:25, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, especially since tiebreakers are essentially meaningless in terms of regular season standings. The only thing they are used for is to determine post season tournament berths or overall champion if there is no tournament. Ryan2845 (talk) 22:35, 1 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Breaking ties in conference standings? 

message: : While some of the selections that cannot be made "official" until after their conferences hold their championship games are all but inevitable (e.g. Kansas in the Insight Bowl), I think we should hold off on putting Nebraska in the Gator Bowl on our page, as it seems to be contingent on Oklahoma beating Missouri in the Big 12 championship game. Cyberchao X (talk) 05:37, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's ok to list those two games as NU is already selling gator bowl tickets and KU is already selling Insight bowl tickets  Ryan2845 (talk) 05:40, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bowl selections not finalized 

message: Someone should add an additional column to the other awards containing the names of the nominees (non-winners) of the awards. That information is very useful.↔NMajdan•talk 17:11, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the problem was for most if not all, there are several finalists, and we don't have the space to list 10 or so names. Grsz11 17:22, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah originally there was a column for nominees, but I removed it because some of the awards have like 20 finalists and thats more information than is really useful for the purpose of this page. In my opinion, a full list of nominees for a particular award could be shown on the individual page for that award, but is too much info for this page. Ryan2845 (talk) 18:26, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What awards have 20 finalists? Just curious. I know some awards could have as many as five finalists which is narrowed down from like 10-20 people on a watch list. Are we confusing an award's watch list with its finalists?↔NMajdan•talk 20:10, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: A bit of hyperbole on my part, but some do have >=10 finalists, like the Butkus Award with 12, Manning Award with 10. Ryan2845 (talk) 21:29, 12 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other award nominees 

message: Is Western Kentucky considered a Division I FBS team for 2008 or not? I would say they are. They have been in transitional status to the FBS from the FCS since 2007, though they won't become bowl-eligible-eligible until 2009 after they join the Sun Belt conference. ESPN groups them in with the other independent teams  and the Cosgrove Rankings have them included in their list of rated FBS teams (which totals 120) . The NCAA itself has WKU listed under FBS Independents . I would say that they are actually to be considered an FBS team, and thus the total should be 120. Other thoughts? Strikehold (talk) 04:55, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good to me, as long as there is a reference to clarify it. They weren't "officially" FBS until 2009, but like you said, they were in a transitional phase for 2 years and were essentially a defacto FBS team. It just depends on how they are classified. (as you point out, some ratings list 120, while others list 119.) I personally do not have a problem with either figure as long as a clarification reference is added. Cardsplayer4life (talk) 05:10, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll add a reference to the ESPN page since I don't see one on the NCAA site with all of the teams listed out, only by conference affiliation. Strikehold (talk) 05:15, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, beat me to it. Strikehold (talk) 05:17, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  120 or 119 teams? 

message: shouldn't Georgia vs Alabama and Georgia vs Florida be listed on key games? --NReTSa (talk) 03:01, 5 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  notable games 

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