Wikipedia talk:Canadian Wikipedians' notice board

message: Additional input on how to describe the branches of government in Template:Politics of Canada would be appreciated at .--Trystan (talk) 03:24, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I commented on this discussion, to reactivate it after two months hiatus. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:52, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template:Politics of Canada 

message: Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pierre Elliott Trudeau High School has been relisted after no participation, if anyone is interested in commenting. Meters (talk) 19:35, 7 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: closed as "Keep" Meters (talk) 18:34, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canadian high school AFD could some participation 

message: All--Some fresh views/suggestions would be appreciated at Talk:Republicanism in Canada#Opinion polling.
Also, if anyone knows what other WikiProject might have interest, please let me know. ₪ MIESIANIACAL 01:35, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Input requested 

message: A content dispute at Monarchy of Canada over the identity of Canada's head of state, is taking place. Input there (which also affect's the Governor General of Canada page) is requested. GoodDay (talk) 21:58, 15 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canada's head of state 

message: An RFC concerning the lead, of Governor General of Canada, in relation to the topic of head of state, is in progress. Input would be welcomed. GoodDay (talk) 20:21, 16 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes pls let's get some more eyes over here.....have a young student that needs some guidance. Our resident expert Miesianiacal  is no longer around.Moxy🍁 15:23, 17 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Governor General 

message: Hi, I've been looking at very old articles with no refs. I'm not able to read references about Boubou Macoutes, I was wondering if anyone here could help suggest refs which show notability. Thanks. JMWt (talk) 09:49, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a slightly better article on the French Wikipedia, and Google shows some Québec media coverage in the last ten years about it being applied to a new wave of inspectors. This is probably a job for somebody fluent in the local French. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 13:59, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Boubou Macoutes]] 

message: A question came up at Government House (Prince Edward Island) which I think actually concerns all of the government houses in Canada. I initially started a discussion on the talk page of that article but since this possibly affects many articles I'm going to redirect the discussion here.
We have a source defining government houses as the official residences of the Canadian monarch when they are in those provinces (and Rideau Hall when they are in Ottawa). Up to today we had a category :Category:Royal residences in Canada but user  has cleared the category today as well as the same category for Australia, on the basis of there being no source explicitly describing them as royal residences, and that an official residence of a monarch is not the same as a royal residence.
I'm not sure that there's value to an encyclopedia in distinguishing "official residence of a royal" from "royal residence", but I also don't think there's value in having the royal residences category in parallel to :Category:Government Houses in Canada with presumably exactly the same content. We don't have a description for "royal residence"; our title  is a redirect to Palace, which also has a section for the Canadian government houses. I'd like more opinions on where to go from here. Ivanvector (Talk/Edits) 17:43, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to give added background, "Government House" is a term that originated in the colonial era for the official residence of the colonial governor and, as colonies evolved into states, of the governor general (or lieutenant governor) so in our article Government House, it is defined as "the name of many of the official residences of governors-general, governors and lieutenant-governors in the Commonwealth and British Overseas Territories." More elaboration is given in Government Houses of the British Empire and Commonwealth which states "When King Charles III or a member of the royal family visits a Commonwealth nation, they will often stay at the Government House" - so these structures are also considered "official residences" of the monarch when the monarch is visiting. Does this make them "royal residences" though? We did have a discussion in Talk:Governor General of Canada on whether or not Rideau Hall (and by extension the other official vice-regal residences) are "official residences" of the monarch. There appears to be a consensus that there are, but we also found no sources for them being "royal residences" per se and that term is not used in government sources, even those which say they are "official residences of the monarch". The term generally used for these buildings is "vice-regal residence" or "vice-regal estate" rather than royal residence) see, for example Parks Canada webpage on Rideau Hall which refers to Rideau Hall as "the vice-regal estate of the Governor General of Canada". The term vice-regal is a form of the word viceroy meaning governor general or lieutenant governor in our context. It's reasonable to refer to Government Houses in Commonwealth countries (and British overseas colonies) as "vice-regal residences" but not royal residences per se - that term is simply not used either in Canada or the Commonwealth in regards to these structures, nor do any official websites of the monarchy list Government Houses as "royal residences", a term which is generally associated with palaces (which is also where royal residence redirects in Wikipedia) - and yes while the palace article does list Canadian government houses, I think that's an interpolation by an overenthusiastic editor as a) no other Government Houses from any other Commonwealth country are listed b) the section does not refer to Canadian government houses as palaces or royal residences - nor are there any sources that support such a description. Indeed, it was added on November 2, 2016 with no explanation or sources to support inclusion.  Wellington Bay (talk) 18:53, 22 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, if it is deemed that government houses are royal residences then it would make more sense to make :Category:Government Houses of the British Empire and Commonwealth (which :Category:Government Houses in Canada is a subcat of) a subcat of :Category:Royal residences than to have a category such as :Category:Royal residences in Canada which has the exact same content as :Category:Government Houses in Canada and have similar "Royal Residences" categories duplicating various "Government Houses" categories. Wellington Bay (talk) 19:14, 22 April 2024 (UTC)

text: Wellington Bay this may be a topics you need to do more research on from what I can see.Moxy🍁 00:56, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps you can provide a source that states these or other Government Houses are "royal residences"? Wellington Bay (talk) 02:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: We have been over this already. There were extensive discussions here and here among other places. The Government of Canada's publication A Crown of Maples says that all Government Houses are official residences of the monarch. Countless discussions of this on other pages is not helping.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 21:03, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a source that actually uses the phrase "royal residence"? Crown of Maples does not use that term at all. Wellington Bay (talk) 23:12, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It says it is an official residence of the monarch, that's what "royal" means.--Darryl Kerrigan (talk) 23:26, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Nowhere is the term "royal residence" used in Crown of Maples or any other government or credible source, instead, the term "vice-regal residence" or "vice-regal estate" is used. Nor do any sources, including the official monarchy website, refer to any Government House in any Commonwealth country or British overseas territory as a "royal residence". Furthermore, there is no need to have both :Category:Royal residences in Canada and :Category:Government Houses in Canada as the contents are identical. Having two categories is redundant. Wellington Bay (talk) 23:37, 23 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Government Houses as royal residences 

message: Fourthords, a user who previously caused a ruckus at Teryl Rothery (see Wikipedia_talk:Canadian_Wikipedians'_notice_board/Archive_27#Teryl_Rothery) is at it again on Eve Harlow, where they're basically vetoing any source whatsoever that describes her as "Canadian", and forcibly reverting anybody who tries to diffuse her out of  or , even though those are container categories that are not allowed to have any individual articles filed directly in them, and are only allowed to contain subcategories. Obviously this is not acceptable, but they're revert-warring anybody who makes any edits to the article that don't fit their agenda — and, in fact, the article is very poorly sourced and not really demonstrating that she would actually pass WP:GNG at all, as it's referenced almost entirely to directory entries on Rotten Tomatoes rather than proper media coverage, and even what there is for media coverage is coming primarily from Screen Rant (a marginal source at best) rather than real GNG-worthy media of record.
So I wanted to ask if anybody's willing to help repair the article with better sourcing that would properly support getting her out of the container categories, and/or willing to back me up on an WP:AFD discussion if the sourcing can't be improved. Bearcat (talk) 21:52, 26 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nationality of an actress 

message: was recently moved from USA to USA and Canada. Someone may want to add missing Canadian topics. -- 65.92.247.66 (talk) 21:17, 27 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  {{lt|Professional sports leagues in the United States and Canada}} 

message: Hi, an editor recently changed the IPA pronunciation for “Regina” on the article page. Could someone who is familiar with IPA take a look at it?  The current pronunciation has been stable for quite some time, so I don’t know if the change is correct?  (There have been previous edits by non-Canadians who think “that can’t be right!”  Is it is. Really.) Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 14:46, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: There, I fixed the English phonetic to sound like the IPA. I've never heard it sound like ridge-EYE-nuh before. G. Timothy Walton (talk) 16:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)

text: It was changed from /rɪˈdʒaɪnə/ to /rəˈdʒaɪnə/, the difference being the weak vowel in the first syllable. It doesn't matter much - Canadian English speakers wouldn't notice this difference, in fact I think very few English speakers worldwide would notice. The vowels in first and third syllables are the same, so /ə/ is a better choice. In Canadian English, we have only one kind of schwa in our phonemic model. Indefatigable (talk) 16:26, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thank you both for looking at it. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 13:22, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edit to Regina page 

message: The Youtube channel for the Legislative Assembly of Ontario seems to have put most, if not all, of their videos under a compatible Creative Commons license. This includes all question periods and member statements. Just posting this here in case anyone wants to add images to Ontario MPP articles that don't have photos. I've already done a few. Cheers, ARandomName123 (talk)Ping me!  18:32, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images for Ontario MPPs 

message: Could you help to disambiguate the hundreds of links to Canadian electoral districts? It is sometimes unclear whether the federal or provincial district is the intended link and they now point to disambiguation pages. Examples include:
* Brome-Missisquoi - 203 links shown here
* Vancouver-Burrard - 113 links shown here
* Surrey-Newton - 91 links shown here
* Port Moody-Coquitlam - 70 links shown here
* Richelieu-Verchères - 45 links shown here
* Chilliwack-Hope -  42 links shown here
There are probably more on this list. It is almost always better, for the reader, to link to the specific article rather than the dab page, but if the dab page is the intended link then the guideline at WP:INTDAB should followed. Any help appreciated.— Rod talk 07:57, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation of Canadian electoral districts 

message: Hi, I've started a discussion about the best way to name Wikipedia articles about old Canadian court cases.  It's at Case Citations: Historic Canadian cases.  It's not a full blown RfC.  Would welcome comments. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 16:27, 11 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names of Wikipedia articles for old Canadian court cases 

message: Could somebody take a look at Draft:British North America Revolution of 1844? I have deep suspicions that it's an outright hoax, but want to get a second opinion before taking it to MFD.
The article claims that there was an unsuccessful rebellion in 1844, which was covered up by the British and not declassified until 2014 — but firstly, there's absolutely no coverage of any such thing being "revealed" in 2014 at all, and I don't just mean it's absent from the article, I mean it's in a state of total failure to exist even after extensive checks of databases. But even more importantly, one of the only two sources cited in the article is a 2018 reprint of a book that was originally written in 1905 — or 113 years before this "event" was "declassified", so how could William B. Munro possibly have known about it? — and even more importantly, Munro's article actually features an offsite link to a complete readable copy of that very book, which I checked and rather unsurprisingly failed to find verification of anything this article says there either.
So it's very likely bull droppings, but I'd like some other editors to take a look at it as well. Bearcat (talk) 00:28, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked the Munro book on Internet Archive.  I searched for "LaPlante", "Scott", "Carter"; "Douglas"; "Peterborough"; "Scugog"; and "1844".  No hits for any of the narrative in the draft article.    Plus, if there was a battle north of York (now Toronto) in 1844, with cannon from a "crashed British ship", there is no way that could be hushed up.  There were active journalists and newspapers.  I would say it's entirely fictional. Mr Serjeant Buzfuz (talk) 01:10, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks. I've finished listing it for deletion at Wikipedia:Miscellany for deletion/Draft:British North America Revolution of 1844. Bearcat (talk) 02:32, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  One for the historians... 

message: The article Allegations of Chinese interference in the 2019 and 2021 Canadian federal elections is part of this WikiProject and there is a move discussion there that may be of interest to those involved in this WikiProject. - Amigao (talk) 18:02, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion of interest 

message: see these additions that I have removed a few times.... to no avail. Moxy🍁 23:01, 25 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Looking for help with a few bios 

message: There are a couple DYKs set for Canada Day. If anyone has another they'd like to run for 1 July, nominate them soon! – Reidgreg (talk) 01:33, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canada Day DYKs 

message: Please go through the 2023 Canada-India diplomatic row article and review it. Many thanks. 2401:BA80:A383:2A81:8939:A2A6:F86D:94E8 (talk) 01:29, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: What, exactly, are you looking for here?   Aloha27  talk  12:59, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:   There's nothing to review.  2023 Canada-India diplomatic row has been replaced with a redirect to Hardeep Singh Nijjar.  PKT(alk) 15:24, 4 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  2023 Canada-India diplomatic row 

message: Hey folks, the BC Wikiproject doesn't have much going on, but if there is interest I'm curious to get input on a more unified structure for articles about Provincial or National Parks. Feel free to check out this post on the Template talk:British Columbia parks. Cheers, Uninspired Username (talk) 03:52, 6 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Structure for Provincial / National Parks articles