Talk:Daniela Silivaș

message: Is she of hungarian origin? Silivas=Szilvás? as some sources indicates. Many csangó-hungarians in Romania can´t even speak a word of hungarian, since it was de facto prohibited!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by László Vazulvonal of Stockholm (talk • contribs) 17:19, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
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message: I see that others have already tackled this issue here, and I've used their links and comments to try to rewrite the section of the page. I've not taken any particular side of the issue, I've tried to keep the text down to the facts and Silivas' personal reactions. I've included Kim's name as "the Soviet judge" because it does come up in articles about the meet: International Gymnast, various Western networks and others have addressed the issue so it is more than fan speculation. IG in particular has a lot of links with the gymnastics community so they wouldn't print idle gossip or theory. Kim herself has addressed the issue of judging bias, and has admitted that there's no way to make it completely ojective.  I've also made a point of saying that officially Kim did nothing wrong and that her other score was in line with the rest of the judges.
I took this part out: 
However, had the vault been scored higher by the Soviet judge then one of the higher scores would have been dropped, so even the highest and lowest scores which are dropped do have a bearing on the eventual result). 
I don't care for Kim (namely for her COP involvement and her more recent judging) but it's not fair to put the blame on her here. If she'd given Silivas a 9.9, in line with two others on the panel, it would have mathematically made NO difference to the score. They'd still have been averaging two 10.0s and two 9.9s.
If she'd given Silivas a 10, yes, it would have made a difference. However, we could also argue that one of the two judges who gave 9.9s could have ALSO given Silivas a 10.0 and it would have had the same effect. Two other judges had the chance to score Silivas at a 10, and they didn't. In addition, the same six judges scored both Silivas and Shushunova; vault was Silivas' weakest event and unlike Shushunova, she did have a visible form break on her first vault, even though she stuck it. A deduction was justifiable there. I think it's a POV angle to just single out Kim. DanielEng 10:49, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
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