Talk:Anarchistic free school

message: A little new here, so forgive my blundering.  I am happy with this little stub of an article, but how do I make redirects from free skool (an article that doesn't exist).   --Rico 21:08, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Original conversation

message: free schools → free school – Rationale: Wikipedia:Naming conventions (plurals). Dancter 02:57, 22 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. —Nightstallion (?) Seen this already? 07:38, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: Nixed all the non-Free Skools that have popped up on the link page.  While all good endeavors, none met the grassroots and non-authoritarian criteria of a free skool.  And none were free.  --Rico 19:07, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Pruned

message: I'm not sure Summerhill School belongs on this page. Although Summerhill has often defined itself as a "Free School", in that the students enjoy greater freedom than conventional schools, it doesn't fit the definition at the top of the page. Summerhill certainly has a hierarchy of learning, lessons are taught by teachers. It's just that students are free not to attend. And it certainly doesn't have a gift economy. Mishagale 12:30, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Summerhill

message: Free schools started in 2006 can hardly be listed under history.  Methinks that some of the newer Australian schools, whie no doubt great projects, should be moved to the external links section, since they serve little purpose in the definition section other than promotion.   --Rico 01:58, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History

message: The link to the Olympia Free School is dead - it now resulves to a squatter page.
I have removed the link, and am quoting it here, in case it should return:
*Olympia Community Free School, Washington, USA
JBazuzi 16:43, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it’s funny that you meant a domain squatter whereas I parsed that as meaning a page about squatting. —Wiki Wikardo 20:34, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead link 

message: Changed heading "Free 'skool' movement" to "Free skool movement."  Yes, I know it is an alternate spelling, but it is quite deliberate.  It goes beyond punx speling and is closer to a proper noun used to differentiate "skools" from "schools."   --Rico 23:28, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The spelling of skool 

message: I was hoping for some information on the legality of free schools as a substitute for normal education, particularly in the US, and also some statistics on success rates of free schools - in terms of students' national test results, later career success, and so on.  i couldn't find this stuff on the interweb because a search for "free school" brings up a plethora of other, more popular ideas.  So more information along those lines would be appreciated. Inhahe (talk) 07:13, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need more information 

message: How about this:
We make this a page describing the use of the term in reference to Neill/Summerhill. Send readers to democratic school for more info, however.
Make a historical note that many schools used to include the term 'free' because they didn't cost anything to attend. I personally don't know anything about that def. though.
Then create a new page for 'free skool' which will be for the Anarchist side of it.
Also, I agree that the external link farm should probably be pruned heavily: move only those that actually are "skoolish" to the new free skool page. Any of them that are more Summerhillish can be included on the List of democratic schools page.
Whadya say? Maguire09 (talk) 13:45, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. Let's give it some time, but I think that the complete lack of citations documenting a substantive theory of these 'skools' is relatively telling. Maguire09 (talk) 20:20, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree that Free Skools do not meet the Wikipedia noteworthiness test.  Again, it is a movement that predates Summerhill and democratic schools by about 50 years, and is currently expanding.  Summerhill already has its own article, and this one was originally written to help define free skools in the anarchist sense. --Rico (talk) 22:15, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm confused by the dating: this would take these anarchist free skools to 1871, around the time when Bakunin was hanging out with Nechaev. Can you clarify these origins? AllyD (talk) 17:07, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right.  The earliest date I found was 1890, predating Summerhill by 30 years. The Stelton colony came in 1919 formed around an anarchist school.  --Rico (talk) 19:31, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Free skool vs. free school 

message: As I said earlier, I'd like to see philosophy and history disentangled. Originally, they were broken apart. The history of both democratic and anarchist schooling is deep and rich, so there is ample opportunity to develop a fine article, with history reaching back more than a century. 
A good start on the earliest history of anarchist schooling could be found in Murray Bookchin's /The Spanish Anarchists/.  A relevant chapter on Ferrer's Modern Schools is at http://flag.blackened.net/revolt/spain/ferrer.html.  --Rico (talk) 19:35, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disentangling philosophy and history 

message: Now that this article has been limited in line with the revised lead paragraph, the entries in the "Currently active" section should really be reviewed and pruned. The majority are institutions of the type which has now been reoriented to the :Democratic education article, and these examples belong on the :List of democratic schools instead. Are there any on the list in this article which should continue here? It is also noticeable that editor (often IP based) continue to try to add links here, probably without realising how the article has refocused. Should the entire section be deleted? Thoughts? AllyD (talk) 19:47, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Currently active free schools/skools" section 

message: Some passages seem POV:
*Anarchist free schools (or free skool) can be a decentralized network in which skills, information, and knowledge are shared without hierarchy or the institutional environment of formal schooling. - is vague ("can be") and reads like advocacy, not NPOV.
*Radical experiments in non-hierarchical education with anarchist  roots have given rise to temporal and permanent free schools. They are often termed "free skools" to distinguish them from what supporters view as an oppressive and institutional educational industry. - definitely POV.
*Temporal free skools offering skill-shares and training have become a regular part of large radical gatherings and actions. More permanent skools in cities large and small have popped up across North America offering a wide range of workshops, classes, and skill-shares. - vague and POV.
*Free Skool Santa Cruz in California is perhaps typical of a new batch of free schools that are explicitly rooted in an anarchist tradition of collectivism, autonomy, and self-reliance, and feature informal, non-authoritarian learning outside of the monetary economy. - sweeping vague statement ("perhaps typical") and POV.
*These are on-going, informal learning networks, that focus on skill-sharing among adults as well as children. The boundaries between students, teachers, and organizers are consciously blurred, with some free skools claiming, "we are all teachers, and we are all students." Free skool "classes" are often autonomous workshops held in informal settings in homes, cafes, and community centers. Free skools typically offer a monthly or quarterly-produced free skool calendar. - another vague and POV passage.
Autarch (talk) 12:32, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV check 

message: Just a word-choice question.  Why is 'temporal' used instead of 'temporary'?  Is there a specific, technical meaning of the word being used here, or is this just a misuse? Sindinero (talk) 11:45, 12 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  "temporal"? 

message: Hopefully sometime we could bring up the quality of this article so that we could bring the most important parts of it into the article anarchism and education. As it stands now it is clearly lacking references and other things.--Eduen (talk) 22:44, 20 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anarchism and education 

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