Talk:KXL-FM/Archive 1

message: Should the section about the other KUFO station from Texas be moved to a different article? --Katt 10:42, 26 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I would say so. KUFO should be about the Oregon station, then a disambiguation page and more pages for the old stations. Eleland 18:46, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Other KUFO stations

message: Had to add Kash again, some chuckle-head keeps deleting her.  I'd like to see if we can get this locked up! 65.183.198.226 03:46, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-added Crystal Kash

message: Please stop deleting Crystal Kash from the personalities.  She is a real person who does work from 12A-5A.  Even though there appears to be users who think she is recorded, and therefore keep deleting her in the thought that she is not real.  I will continue to replace her every time she is deleted, and I am currently lobbying Wikipedia to get protection placed on this article. 71.59.179.114 14:10, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Stop deleting personalities

message: Okay kids, this dispute needs grown-up intervention. Information on Wikipedia must be verifiable. What you need to do is find a reliable, published source which says that Crystal Kash is a "personality" on the radio station. Failing that, leave it off.
Since I'm such a nice guy, I'll call Fatboy some time, explain that KUFO has earned its place in the annals of Wikipedia history through your tireless efforts, and try and get a statement one way or the other posted on their blog/podcast. That could be a reliable published source at least on this matter.
Eleland 22:14, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Crystal Kash edit war

message: I agree.  If KUFO doesn't list Crystal on the website or the schedule after a years time, there must be something to it.  When Tim Savage departed, the website and schedule were updated almost instantly.  Do you suppose they just forgot to add Crystal when they were making changes? My guess is KUFO isn't ready to attach their name to her "talent" yet.  Every company has their own policy regarding where the line is drawn between talent and staff, and I think it's been made clear where that line is in this case.  If we add Crystal, should we also list all of the Board Operators? Promotions Team? Producers? Sales People?  Where is the line drawn?
radioxpert 22:09, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Read: Verifiable

message: Kash is listed as air staff on the KUFO website, alongside and the promotional copy pasted to every single page says that "rock music and rockin’ personalities have come together as one. With the addition of the all new Adam Carolla Show in mornings, followed by Bozyk in middays, the Marconi Show in afternoon drive, Cort & Fatboy in the evening and Crystal Kash at night, KUFO is tipping the personality scale on its ear!"
In other news, it would appear, based on Kash's myspace page, that the editor adding her in the first place is a sock-puppet of a blocked user. Lovely. Eleland 01:36, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: What is the basis for listing Kash as "part-time staff"? If she's on the air live 30 hours a week I don't really see how she could be a part-timer. The KUFO website lists her on every single page as a "personality", in the same breath as Carolla, Bozyk, Marconi, C&F, so I'm moving her back to main personalities section. Eleland 16:24, 16 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Also please do not copy-and-paste advertising copy. Puffery is unencyclopedic and POV. Eleland 16:51, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-added Crystal with proper citation

message: please sight YOUR source for the cut and paste comment.  Nothing was.
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With over 10 years market experience, including time spent at KNRK during its heyday, Buzz dominates the weekend slot at KUFO with his wit and dry sense of humor. A pro on the phones, Buzz molests your ears with "the funny" every Saturday and Sunday. His wide range of cartoon voices and zany characters make him a stand-out member of the KUFO team.
Frank The Human Tripod is the second part-time gun in the KUFO talent arsenal. Frank KNOWS the music. And Frank KNOWS radio. 20 years in the business will do that to you. After leaving Eastern Washington, Frank came to Portland with a banjo on his knee and a tripod in his pants. The rest, as they say, is history. Frank has been with KUFO since 1996.
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again please sight a reference, ANY reference, to where this may have been copy and pasted from?
:I'm sorry, I simply assumed it was advertising copy based on its style. Whether it's copied-and-pasted or not is irrelevant, information should never be presented in this style on an encyclopedia. I mean, "Buzz molests your ears", "Frank KNOWS the music"? How could these statements possibly be verifiable? What do they even mean? And have you ever read an encyclopedia article which addresses the reader as "you"? Eleland 02:05, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: copy and paste

message: Several of the edits being made on this page are originating from CBS IP addresses, specifically posts regarding Crystal Kash. This constitutes a conflict of interest as outlined in the wikipedia guidelines.
:That's very interesting. Insofar as they are simply restoring the sourced and factual information which you keep removing without justification, they're doing nothing wrong. You, on the other hand, are a persistent and obnoxious vandal who should go away. Eleland 17:19, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Editing with a COI is not prohibited. Please go read WP:COI. ---J.S  (T/C/WRE) 21:46, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Conflict of interest