Talk:Velvet Revolution

message: It should be noted that the elections in 1990 were not the first since 1948, as Czechoslovakia endured, first, Nazi occupation and just after the liberation of that occupation, the Soviet Occupation began. This makes the elections the first since the Munich Pact in 1939.
: Czechoslovakia was not occupied by Soviets in 1946, as their troops left the country by the end of 1945. Despite the fact that Communists won them, the elections in 1946 were democratic. -- Sandius 18:32, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nazi Occupation 

message: doesnt the name have anything to do with Václav Havel's favourite band being the Velvet Underground? or is that just an urban legend?
: It doesn't. It is just a journalist stupidity turned popular. Pavel Vozenilek 22:16, 15 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I belive it is named after The Velvet Underground. Vaclav Havel, former Czech president, was inspired by The Velvet Underground's music and message, and thus the "Velvet" name. He personally thanked Lou Reed and said he would never have become president without him. "They were brought together by their resistance toward totalitarianism and their willingness to challenge the system.( …) By this I want to say that underground music in general and the record (V.H. brought home from the USA in 1968) by The Velvet Underground in particular played a major role in the history of our country."(→name)   (This unattributed comment was added on 04:24, April 10, 2006 by Gleeper)
Does anyone know why the recent Iranian protests have been called by conservative groups an attempted "Velvet Revolution"? I don't have the reference on me but it was reported by the BBC and I searched the term on wiki and found this article. It could just be a coincidence of translation but perhaps someone more knowledgeable might be able to shed light on any link. Bless the People. Saul Vodanovic.   —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.104.109.206 (talk) 17:40, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  Awesome.  Why isn't that in the article?  --63.25.0.174 17:46, 22 April 2007 (UTC)

text: The page at present says this about the origin of the name: "It is believed that the term originated from the various communist opposition groups which met in theaters such as the Magic Lantern. Velvet is a reference to velvet ropes found in all these theaters." (no citation provided). If this is spurious or simply conjecture, it requires support or revision. -- Deborahjay (talk) 15:18, 23 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Update: I've added a  template indicating the need for a citation. -- Deborahjay (talk) 21:02, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  name 

message: I happen to be a tourist on the weekend of Nov 17-19.  Thankfully, I did not stumble into the demonstration on the night of the 17th.  On the night of the 18th I walked downtown.  I heard on the street four students had been killed.  I also saw several "shrines" of candles, flowers and pictures at bloody areas on the street.  It is possible that the shrines were made up to inflame the situation.  However, they looked real to me.  People also had photographs from the night before that they were passing around.  Many showed badly beaten people.
:This is remarkable. I don't tell many people because they probibly would not believe me, but I was there too. It was not true that anyone was killed during that week thought the police did beat several people. There was a rumor going around that someone was killed. About a year later I read in the Prague Post that that never happened. I do remember the candlesand seeing Czech flags everywhere and so many people in Wenceles Square. I also remember it was pretty chilly. Piercetp 08:59, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Firsthand account 

message: I cleaned up some of the Grammar in the opening segment but there is probably more work to do. The article reads like it was written by a grade schooler or translated from another language.--70.24.143.17 (talk) 17:39, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Grammar Cleanup 

message: The Joan Baez artcle states
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In May 1989, Baez performed at a music festival in communist Czechoslovakia, called Bratislavská lýra. While there, she met future Czechoslovakian president Václav Havel, whom she let carry her guitar so as to prevent his arrest by government agents. During her performance, she greeted members of Charter 77, a dissident human-rights group, which resulted in her microphone being shut off abruptly. Baez then proceeded to sing a cappella for the nearly four thousand gathered. Havel cited her as a great inspiration and influence in that country's Velvet Revolution, the revolution in which the Soviet-dominated communist government there was overthrown
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yet there is no mention.  The story is told of how the army cut the power ot the sound system and in response, the people say in unison with her. Does this match the facts?  What is a factor in building or sustaining morale?
G. Robert Shiplett 13:57, 23 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Joan Baez 

message: This edit from about two weeks ago included two changes in the article lead that i can't quite feel content about:
* moved the statement describing the strike on nov 27 before the resignations of 24th... While i'm ready to accept that chronological order can be less important than grouping related events together, i don't think this is really the case here: all three events are part of the same context, and i suggest the previous phrasing was better.
* replaced "became the new non-Communist regime's ambassador to the United States" with "became the —ambassador to the United States". This makes some sense, so i won't argue for the reinstatement of the old phrasing, but the leftover dash looks unneeded IMO, so i suggest removing it too.
Would anyone care to comment on this analysis, and express their view on the two changes and on my suggestions about them? -- Jokes Free4Me (talk) 00:42, 10 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article Lead 

message: Please, see  (in Czech). Zifčák did not play any significant role. He was just a secret agent among students. At that day, he was relatively lightly injured and later he fell down loosing consciousness because of stress. The hoax was created later by Dražská, independently on Zifčák. Miraceti (talk) 13:30, 17 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zifčák 

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message: By chance I happened to be in Prague as a tourist for several days as the Velvet Revolution unfolded.  And I shot a roll of Ilford HP5 black and white negative film while there on Nikon gear.  I have just had those negatives digitized.  And the images are high quality and notable — indeed much better than currently used on this article.  I will upload the images to Wikimedia Commons under a Creative Commons license in due course.  But first I would like some help with historical interpretation before doing so.
Can anyone assist?   Being able to read Czech signage would be useful.  Please leave a message on my talk page if you can help?  We can set up a Zoom video meeting if necessary.  TIA, RobbieIanMorrison (talk) 20:34, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help needed interpreting my photographs of the Velvet Revolution