Talk:Evolution of the Daleks

message: How do we know Dalek Sec will be in human form? Xdt 11:27, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sec

message: So are they a complete hoax or what? Obviously if the Daleks are walking around with missing pieces on the back of their shells, then they can't possibly have the resources to build even more Daleks? Not to mention we hear the phrase "the last four Daleks in existence" thrown around alot, is it possible that the Art Deco Daleks were nothing but a hoax?--172.134.61.220 22:29, 21 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Art Deco Daleks? 

message: 'Peter Brooke' is credited as 'Man #2', but this is linked to the conservative politician. I may be just speculating, but are we sure that it is the same person? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.21.37.29 (talk • contribs) 
*No, it's likely just a case of the same name but when you put the web-links around it, it automatically goes to the politican.  And sign your comments. --74.134.239.15 23:57, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Actor Query 

message: The current caption for the photo is a bit long 
"Daleks are bad enough at any time, but right now they're vulnerable - and that makes them more dangerous than ever."
could we shorten it - perhaps "it's started" or "the daleks lauch an attack on hooverville".
StuartDD 13:51, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It kinda suits it - I took the screenshot from the 30 seconds we had from the trailer. I think the purpose of the caption is to give a feel for the episode in one line without spoiling it (Bad Wolf, deadly reality TV. School Reunion, K-9 and Sarah Jane are back.) - and there is a definitely longer quote on Army of Ghosts, and the caption on Daleks in Manhattan isn't much shorter either. Will (is it can be time for messages now plz?) 02:17, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  photo caption 

message: I have removed this note in the continuity section as it serves no purpose here unless it is related to this episode.--Nosxalc 18:43, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no need to be rude. You could at least say "please". I've explained on the talkpage for Daleks in Manhattan.--Rambutan (talk) 09:44, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

text: It's common courtesy to have manners and say "please". -Trampikey(talk)(contribs) 10:16, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Continuity note removed 

message: The website said that The Doctor enters a deadly alliance to save humanity, quite possibly with Dalek Sec (Human/Dalek hybrid form). Should this be mentioned? --Das654 12:10, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is mentioned.  Look under "plot". —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thedarxide (talk • contribs) 12:42, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt it will be with the Dalek sec hybred, more likly that it will be with the remainding Cult of Skaro Daleks to stop Dalek Sec.--Wiggstar69 16:42, 27 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unholy alliance? 

message: Yep, that looked good.  --Tony Sidaway 19:16, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, although it would've looked better if beams shot out of their left hands, and their right hands acted as plungers... Anyway, considering that this topic has barely anything to do with the article, I may as well make it relevant and mention that the "Art Deco Daleks?" and "Unholy alliance?" sections have now been resolved, and its not what the commenters seemed to think. Not that that made the topic any more relevant to the page... ~  Ghelæ talkcontribs 19:52, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Dalek tommy guns

message: How many times have we encountered this now? The Daleks have either been extinct or only 'one' left at least twice in just the new series. How many instances of this have happened in the previous series? Perhaps something that could be brought to light in the article. Tim 04:55, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's something about multiple extinctions in the Daleks in Manhattan page, but that's probably not what you're asking for. In the classic series, I think only Remembrance of the Daleks had one left at the end, similar to Caan in this one (and also it was the then-leader of a small group of Standard Daleks, the Renegade Daleks), but the Dalek in Remembrance then killed itself (I think, I've never actually seen the classic episode, just read about it in variouis places). Maybe referencing the "last" Daleks isn't too good, although is it a coincidence about the similarities to Davros episodes - Genesis, revolt and extermination against their leader, Remembrance, for reasons stated above, and plus, a reference to him early in the episode? ~  Ghelæ talkcontribs 07:34, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

text: You're best off looking at the continuity note Daleks in Manhattan. From memory, it happened in The Daleks, The Evil of the Daleks (emperor survived, I think), Remembrance of the Daleks (Davros survived), the Time War (mutually assured destruction), Dalek, The Parting of the Ways (total), Doomsday (Cult survived). Will (is it can be time for messages now plz?) 11:50, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the Emperor died in Evil, although as the episode is lost it's hard to check for sure (though it is explicit in the novelisation). That said, I remember reading in the DWM archive that a late in the day decision was made to use a heartbeat sound to give an indication the Daleks may not be dead after all, similar to the Daelk eyestalk in Power. Timrollpickering 21:39, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Last of the Daleks

message: In the episode, timeline 28:01 the doctor is seen wearing allstar shoes.
How amusing is this.. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 89.138.128.5 (talk) 10:51, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're kidding me right?  Go back and watch every episode you can see his feet - he wears cons ALL THE DAMN TIME.  Either a cream pair with the brown suit or a red pair with the blue suit.  Seriously.  Missing that is like looking in the mirror, seeing your nose and screaming "THAT WASN'T THERE YESTERDAY". 59.100.23.42 20:42, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The doctor has allstar shoes 

message: Someone has edited the page and has added a strong POV to hating the episode. Someone should reverse this ASAP. If I have time, I will. Walters1 19:57, 29 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: :Martha tells the Doctor "And I Am Telling You I'm Not Going", the title of the signature song from the play, and hit 2006 movie, Dreamgirls.
Is this just a coincidence? If so, it's not really of note, is it? David 10:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just a coincidence? 

message: The Doctor when curing laszo says "the doctor is in" as he said ib new earth —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 84.68.139.123 (talk) 16:46, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The doctor is in 

message: Three references to culture? I'm not sure whether they are worth keeping. The first one is unsource so that will have to go unless the contributer can reference. The second one, I fail to see the significance and the third is slightly worthy of staying but still it's doubtable. What are other thoughts? --Nosxalc 19:41, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cultural References? 

message: I'm not certain that the Daleks in this episode "turn against and exterminate their leader, as they did in Genesis of the Daleks" as the article states.  While they certainly turn against Sec, he is only inadvertently killed when he steps in the way of an exterminating blast aimed at the Doctor.  In Genesis, Davros is quite deliberately blown away (those old school Daleks were a lot less touchy-feely than these Cult of Skaro guys).Dr Faustus AU 03:02, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Exterminate their leader? 

message: This follows an edit dispute between myself and PeeJay2K3.
In the episode, the shanty town is referred to as "Hooverville" not "the Hooverville" or "a Hooverville", merely Hooverville. The way it is referred to in the article should be the way it is referred to in the episode. It is irrelevant if there are other Hoovervilles across america, because this is the only one in the story. Opinions anyone else? mattbuck 11:07, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right.  AvatarMN 08:37, 5 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, it was refered to as Hooverville in the story, and (although I have do definate opinion on this) the sign outside the Hooverville had "HOOVER VILLE" written upon it, although that may just have been to show that it was a Hooverville, not the Hoover Ville. ~  Ghelæ talkcontribs 11:40, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hooverville 

message: I have previously removed the assertion that the Doctor's remark "first floor, perfumery" as the lift doors open explicitly references "Are You Being Served" and now it's back again. As far as I can see, it doesn't. Both the Doctor's remark and the AYBS theme tune reference the same thing: the way real department store lift announce the floors. For the time being, I have compromised as follows: "When the Doctor arrives in the lift, he says "First Floor, Perfumery", in the manner of a department store lift attendent. This method of announcing both floor and departments found thereon is also used as the basis of the theme music to the popular BBC sit-com Are You Being Served? (itself set in a large department store)." This seems hardly worth mentioning, and I'd be grateful therefore if a) someone else removed the line altogether and b) it didn't get put back in its more interesting, but unlikely version. Cheers. Tomsalinsky 23:23, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, didn't notice this discussion before I made other changes to the AYBS reference.  Personally, I don't see how it can not be a reference to AYBS, as Tennant delivers the line not simply in the "manner of a department store lift attendant", but specifically with the same intonation and inflection of Stephanie Gathercole, who voiced the AYBS theme.  Neither Tennant nor Raynor are old enough to have a real life experience of "lift operators" on which to base the line.  Still, I don't think I've substantively altered your compromise language, except to point out that the exact words, after accounting for the fact that this is an episode set in America, appear at the top of the AYBS theme song. CzechOut 08:29, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mrs Slocombe's Pussy 

message: I've rewritten the caption for the picture so as to improve comformance to the Non-free content criteria.  The caption is now "Daleks hover over the trees of Central Park in the attack on Hooverville", thus clarifying its relationship to the text of this article. Please check that changes to this maintain the correspondence with the text so as to make the use of the image functional rather than decorative. --Tony Sidaway 22:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Caption

message: Can someone please tell me why there is no picture? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.216.142.47 (talk • contribs) 
:The image that was being used lacked a proper fair use rationale. --Mark H Wilkinson (t, c) 10:59, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: No Picture?

message: Eh? In the last paragraph, is it linked to S4, Ep 13 for any particular reason? Or am I being a fool and not seeing something obvious? 80.176.145.76 (talk) 21:25, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed, that is quite speculative. I've removed the link.  — Edokter • Talk •  22:54, 10 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Some day 

message: The Doctor was not forced into helping the Daleks... he was convinced... he really thought he was doing good this time.  Izhido (talk) 18:21, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Wrong, wrong, wrong...

message: "Puttin' on the Ritz" was not written by Benny Goodman, it was written by Irving Berlin. The Benny Goodman version didn't come out until 1939. It's unclear if the soundtrack is using an existing version or (more likely, 'cause less expensive) put together a couple of verses & chorus in the studio. And, now that I think of it, not in this episode, but in the previous. Jeff (talk) 06:46, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Puttin' on the Ritz 

message: The book and the movie, and no one even gets that. 
What a colossal bunch of dumbasses.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.106.45.56 (talk) 07:53, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Please publish that in a reliable source so that we can cite you. DonQuixote (talk) 13:43, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia FAIL: This episode is clearly paying homage to Frankenstein. 

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