Talk:Toddy coffee

message: :Toddy is a good choice for those with sensitive stomachs, because it contains 67% less acid than traditionally brewed coffee.
I removed this bit for lack of a cited source. Exact numbers such as this need to be backed up with a reference. — BrianSmithson 13:28, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Removed uncited bit

message: The good people at Seattle's Best once told me that cold brewed coffee has a higher amount of caffeine than traditionally brewed, yet this MSNBC article (http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5728227/) says otherwise. Does anyone have any more conclusive info on this? Peccav1 18:12, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is my understanding that the actual concentrate obtained directly from brewing is higher in caffeine per unit of measure, but in practice people generally dilute the concentrate at such a ratio (generally 3-4:1) that the final beverage has less caffeine with more flavor.  //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 19:16, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Caffeine content

message: This stub is a complete trainwreck of corporate advertisement and loosely related information -- is this article about cold-brew coffe, a corporation, or a product?  Whenever I see a corporate brand ("toddy") being substituted for a more generic concept ("cold-brew coffee"), it sends a red flag (other examples:  "whirlpool" for "jacuzzi", "winnebago" for "motorcoach", etc.).  A reading of the MSNBC reference seems to validate this approach, as it also seems to blend all three into one concept.  While the information contained therein/herein is good, I'm not sure that the blended approach is best for an encyclopedic article.  At the very least, we should probably attempt to trim some of the more egregious examples of corporate worship in the article.  Thoughts... ?  //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 14:48, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: You should have seen what this article looked like a year ago! It was such a mess. I took a few minutes to clean it up and tried to fix the worst of the non-NPOV / blatant advertising issues, and I meant to come back and do a more thorough cleanup/rewrite, but I never got around to it. I agree that it's a bit awkward to have an article that covers both the company as well as the general concept of cold-brewed coffee. I'm not sure if that was the case from the very beginning, or if it was the result of two articles that were merged. At any rate, I would support splitting it up into two articles: one about the company and the company's products, and one about cold-brewed coffee. (As I type this, I'm drinking a glass of cold-brewed iced coffee — which I prepared with my Toddy Coffee System. I hope that doesn't mean I have a conflict of interest. ;-)  –BMRR (talk) 17:47, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As am I, though I prefer the hourglass system.  Is there a general consensus (in practice, and in reliable sources) that the term "Toddy coffee" is the de facto standard when referring to cold brew?  I had never heard of it as a general term before this morning, though I was aware of the Toddy system.  I've always just heard "cold brew".  //Blaxthos ( t / c ) 19:12, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Come to think of it, this article may be the only place I've ever seen "Toddy coffee" used as a synonym for cold-brewed coffee. I've been to coffee shops where they offer cold-brewed coffee, and at least one of those shops uses a Toddy system to prepare it, and yet they refer to it simply as cold-brewed coffee. –BMRR (talk) 19:33, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I drink cold-press/cold-brew all the time, and have never heard of "Toddy" until now.  If anything, I think it should be a redirect to cold-brew coffee or something similar.  A13ean (talk) 13:29, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Trainwreck, and yet...