Talk:Carnival of Venice

message: I have added a fair amount to the History section, including some of the Carnival from 1979-present.  In it I have tried to address some of the comments below.  Such as: the renewal of Carnevale during the 1870s and 1880s, why/how it was outlawed by the Facists. when it was started again, in 1979, and one of the reasons... and a book that might be useful...
UncaBob, 13 July 2009  —Preceding undated comment added 22:03, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I absolutely agree, it is naked commerce, that link was also inserted into the Italian article. I removed it (again). Ryancolm 12:33, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: I am confused about the claim that Fascism outlawed Carnival. AFAIK, Carnival in Venice was pretty much dead since the Austria-Hungarian invasion, and it was revived in 1979--as an initiative by the Comune di Venezia, not because of a mask shop. Any source for these claims?--Ninarosa 17:24, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My wife (who's Italian) says she distinctly remembers that the Venice Carnival was revived by the Comune di Venezia in or around 1981 (so it could be 1979 as you say). I'll see if I can find some Italian-language references. Ryancolm 09:18, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So far I've found that Maurizio Cecconi, the then alderman for tourism in Venice, together with Maurizio Scaparro of the Venice Biennale was responsible for reviving Carnival in Venice (http://www.golemindispensabile.it/chisiamo.asp, scroll down to the bio notes for Maurizio Cecconi, in Italian).
There's a website that looks promising, www.storiadivenezia.it, which somebody else might have the time to plough through - I don't, sorry. Ryancolm 12:10, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carnival hiatus 

message: im not sure whether the title should be renamed as its more about the masks than the whole carnival
Skullkid 3 11:59, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title

message: The Carnival_of_Venice article contains a whole section about the different types of masks, while the Venetian_masks article (where it would belong) does not contain such information about the masks. Since the Venetian_masks article is linked at the beginning of the text about the masks, it might be wiser to move the mask type description from Carnival_of_Venice to Venetian_masks  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.194.115.191 (talk) 13:54, 10 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  redundancies and bad share with article about Venetian masks 

message: carnival fun  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.30.108.239 (talk) 09:49, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  carnival fun 

message: A good article should give a clear outline right away about what the article is about. The reader is left wanting and asking what actually does the carnival celebrate?--Tubs uk (talk) 15:47, 17 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  A good article 

message: I have added the tags to the history section after a brief reading. It seems as though it has been sourced particularly heavily from a book or other medium; however, I'm unable to verify my point further, so I won't go about deleting anything. Also, it seems as though the editor has used a personal (and informal) tone, as if he were narrating the history. I know nothing of the history of the Carnival of Venice, so I am unable to modify or improve the article myself, but have highlighted my concerns in the hope that others (share them and) will work to rectify them. Thanks. 79.71.124.92 (talk) 21:13, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  History Section 

message: This article gives enough information about the carnival. If one knew anything about the Italian renaissance they would know that masquerade balls were a frequent, fun, and unique part of their society, which is why they continue this tradition yearly.--Giovannacivetta (talk) 01:18, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Let the Carnival Stay! 

message: It's interesting that the suppression of the Carnival of Venice has been attributed in this article to the Fascist regime.  I'm sure that elsewhere I was told that the Carnival was suppressed by Napoleon.  He also had his troops destroy the Doge's splendid gilded barge, the Bucentaur, used in the annual marriage of the city to the sea.
Many writers have recently identified carnival as in some respects a form of political resistance, so it is quite possible to imagine that it would be revived and suppressed on numerous occasions.  It may well have been suppressed by Napoleon, revived during the Risorgimento, suppressed by the Austro-Hungarian regime, revived again, suppressed by the Fascists, and as we know eventually revived again in the 70s and 80s.
Today it looks much more "showy" than what one can see in Canaletto's 18th century paintings.  Perhaps, though, he was painting for an aristocratic and not a popular audience.  Or perhaps South German and Flemish traditions have got introduced in the process of carnival revival.
There is plenty for someone to research!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Glpjne (talk • contribs) 08:20, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abolition and resurrection of Venice carnival 

message: The article states: "The Carnival starts starts 40 days before easter and ends on Shrove Tuesday (Fat Tuesday or Martedì Grasso), the day before Easter."
Shrove Tuesday is not the day before Easter, as this article seems to say. It is the day before Ash Wednesday, the start of Lent. Furthermore, 40 days before Easter is sometime during Lent, which is not a time in which carnivals are held.
The above paragraph is correct.  Shrove Tuesday is 47 days before Easter, and the carnival commences on Friday and includes one more Friday before ending on Tuesday   - which means it's 58 days before Easter.
Zelevin (talk) 04:35, 14 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Errors/lack of clarity 

message: I've noticed that in the section, Carnival mask, Types of mask, Colombina. The whole section is nearly completely copied and pasted from http://themascherade.com/contents/en-us/d5_Page_5.html
I believe this page should be reviewed for plagiarism.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Naruto9181 (talk • contribs) 06:58, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy/paste 

message: I believe the section on carnival masks is inaccurately titled, as the masks described were worn year-round in Venice, not just at carnival time. Also, readers searching for information on particular masks have to jump through a bunch of dab hoops to get to this article, creating a sad situation where questionably-sourced Pinterests and Tumblrs are serving as the de facto authoritative online reference on this subject. So, I think this section should be split into a separate article.
Lastly, as the above section correctly states, the masks section text seems to be copied from a single source – also bad, and should be cleaned up as part of the split. There are plenty of other, more reliable sources out there on this subject, and it shouldn't be too hard to get this into better shape. I'm going to tackle this part first (i.e., clean up the copyvio in that section, add more refs, etc.) and if no one objects to a split, I'll probably go ahead and move it off to its own page. Accedietalk to me 22:46, 25 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds good, Accedie; do go ahead and do it! This consultation has run long enough. I've already improved the images a bit. HLHJ (talk) 01:07, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting masks section to its own article 

message: Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that :File:Venice Carnival - Masked Lovers (2010).jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on January 27, 2018. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2018-01-27. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. — Chris Woodrich (talk) 02:13, 20 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:Venice Carnival - Masked Lovers (2010).jpg]] to appear as POTD soon 

message: and  have replaced all the gallery photos in this article (here and here) with some taken by Onderturk. While the photos are good-quality, I think this replacement should be discussed by independent editors. I also feel it's recentist to have only 2020 photos in the gallery, especially as the Carnival was reportedly cancelled this year as a COVID-19 measure; more varied captions would also be good. HLHJ (talk) 01:00, 4 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos by Onderkokturk 

message: — Assignment last updated by MayaHBu (talk) 21:12, 7 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Venetian Renaissance Art