Talk:USS Wahoo (SS-238)

message: This is a great article that I enjoyed reading.  I was confused by a few things though:
In the section on Wahoo's 4th patrol:
*paragraph 5: the collier was the mid-sized frieghter mentioned in the previous sentence, or another of the targets that surrounded the Wahoo?
*paragraph 6: the firecrackers in a birdbath analogy is great, but who made it? 
*paragraph 8: in the last 3 sentences: "Wahoo fired another three torpedo spread.  The torpedo hit the engine room..."  Did one torp. hit the target, or all three?
*paragraph 11: "two lighted sampans" - were the sampans lit up, making them easy to find in darkness?  or were they lightweight sampans?
--Badger151 15:27, 15 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confused... 

message: This is supposed to represent a consensus view; This is always going to be a contentious issue, so major changes should be discussed.
As it is, you’ve accused (me, by the look of it) of equating Morton with 
“a Nazi who alleged he used ordnance only to "scatter debris" etc”,
Yet you’ve written his intention was to “chase survivors into the water and smash the boats”, and that he “ordered a single machine gun and two Browning Automatic Rifles to force troops to abandon the boats, after which each boat was destroyed by fire from Wahoo's 4-inch deck gun”. You’ve also said they “acknowledge(d) that troops were killed but states that none were deliberately targeted either in the water or in the boats”. This is the same excuse as Eck! You’d have been better saying nothing at all!
It is controversial, and it is alleged he deliberately targeted survivors.
So what is it here you object to? Xyl 54 (talk) 11:06, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone read Clay Blair´s "Silent Victory"? On pages 384 tp 386 he has several junior officers of USS Wahoo describe what was going one. The two agree the "water was thick with enemy soldiers" in rafts and lifeboats, who Morton ordered being shot at with the deck guns resulting in return fire in the form of pistol bullets. One junior officer said Morton had "an overwhelming biological hatred for the Japanese", Morton himself is quoted: “After about an hour of this we destroyed all the boats and most of the troops.” Morton included the killing of the shipwrecked in his after action report and it was considered cold blooded murder even by some of his fellow submariners. Few of whom followed Morton´s example. Markus Becker02 (talk) 12:20, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Third patrol edits

message: I moved this about Kennedy:
"whose command of Wahoo has been characterized by over-reliance on conservative peacetime training doctrines, over-cautiousness, and an inability to delegate to his subordinate officers (all five years or more junior to him)"
It looks like a hatchet job to me, and doesn't need to be in here; What does anyone else think? Xyl 54 (talk) 11:30, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Kennedy

message: Regarding recent change by 12.13.126.35...
I'm probably picking nits, but it was my understanding that "abaft" is used alone, that is, without "of". For example, "the deck gun was located abaft the conning tower". I realize that "ahead of" is always the correct usage.
WeeWillieWiki (talk) 01:23, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Word usage: "abaft of" v. "aft of" 

message: Photos from the Russian team that located the USS WAHOO show severe oblique damage at the level of the conning tower below the bridge and continuing below to the pressure hull amidships. The divers felt this was consistent with an aerial bomb strike. However, in Commander O'Kane's account of the circular torpedo run that sank USS TANG, he felt it would have hit TANG amidships (at the conning tower) had he not been able to accelerate. ("Clear the Bridge" R.O'Kane, full citation on the USS TANG wiki)
I believe the pictures of the USS WAHOO are also consistent with an amidships hit from a torpedo on a circular run.
Take a look at the photos and diver's illustrations, which can be viewed at http://www.warfish.com/scrap-EP.html. Click the right handle of the "periscope" icon to page through. Especially note the diver's drawings on the second page. As a minor note, the propellers where intact, disputing the Japanese report of seeing a propeller blade come up during depth charging. Unfortunately no men where able to escape with the Momson lung, as they had from the TANG.
Dr John Christensen  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.15.81.119 (talk) 21:08, 5 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aerial Bomb vs Circular Torpedo sunk the Wahoo 

message: O'Kane claims (in Wahoo) that they sunk a Japanese submarine, which they believed at the time was I-15, just after sighting the hospital ship at the end of the second patrol. It wasn't the I-15, but are there other sources, and should this be added? Rees11 (talk) 01:29, 4 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Japanese submarine I-15]] 

message: The 100 ton trawler attacked March 26/27. 1943 was the Bonshu Maru 95. However Japanese records do not listed it as a marine casualty.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.49.242.65 (talk) 15:03, 20 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Fourth Patrol

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: *"a blowup of the Navy chart was made".A school atlas was used to make a hand-drawn chart/map (that was convenient for the navigators to use). That hand-drawn map was a "blowup" - an enlarged map; that hand-drawn map was used as a naval chart (for the submariners of USS Wahoo).
Perhaps it is accurate to say that "A blowup was hand-drawn from the school atlas. The blowup was used as a naval chart." 89.8.77.211 (talk) 21:26, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unclear and maybe not accurate 

message: I've merged the article on the Wahoo Project Group into this article as it was a stub with no citations, largely already covered in this article.
Vegantics (talk) 17:20, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge discussion section