Talk:Yoga and Buddhism

message: The article currently is just a repetition of Yoga#Yoga and Buddhism, cites only one book to present one point of view, does not discuss the debates about differences between different systems of yoga, and between yoga and other traditions. --Knverma 11:34, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good points, Knverma. I had much the same reaction to this article.—Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 16:09, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the article is quite misleading as Yoga strictly speaking only means 'practice', the text reads though as if Yoga only means the practice that Patanjali developed/described in India. I'd suggest to mark it for deletion (again)! rudy 15:17, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. This is part of a slew of articles trying to minimize the importance of the specifically Buddhist approach to meditation and meditative practices. We should delete and merge into Buddhism and Hinduism. I suspect that there may be more misrepresentations of the one source they're using as well. Arrow740 07:32, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am redirecting the article to Buddhism and Hinduism. Other suggestions are welcome. --Knverma 07:48, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great idea!rudy 23:14, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up 

message: Both Dharmic religions have incorporated Yoga into their doctrine.
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Freedom skies| talk  00:32, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply

message: Freedom skies| talk  00:32, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Additional citations

message: All the citations used in the article, do they use the same definition of Yoga? Do they talk about Hindu Yoga or certain elements of Yoga which are common in Buddhism, Jainism and Hinduism? --Knverma 06:57, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: So, are you saying that you did not verify the works before you attached the tags ? Your knowledge about the subject is evident and furthermore your attaching of factual accuracy tags without verification or even reading the article is a breach of Wikipedia:Vandalism. Freedom skies| talk  12:06, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have more knowledge then I am asking for that to be reflected in the article. Wikipedia is not for experts, the responsibility lies on the editor to justify his edits. Whatever be your or my knowledge, the article currently doesn't clarify which kind of Yoga is being talked about where. The first line of an article is suposed to define the topic. In this case, the variant of Yoga being talked about should be clarified. --Knverma 12:40, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

text: The article has ample clarification and the the variant of Yoga being talked about should be clarified line exposes your lack of understanding about the topic. Also, your involvement in disruptive revert tag warring and disputing introduction based on reliable sources highlights a POV of removing material no matter how well sourced while not verifying citations or even reading the article. Freedom skies| talk  13:44, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Freedomskies, please be civil. The problematic thing about this article is that it is not clear what is meant by "yoga". Yogic practices are fundamental to Buddhism—that's true; however, the article quickly begins talking about Hinduism (for instance, mooting "deep structural similarities between the conceptions of meditative practices in the two traditions of Hinduism and Buddhism"). Since yoga is fundamental to Buddhism, where does Hinduism come in? If we are going to talk about the relationship between Buddhism and Hindu Yoga specifically, then we must be careful to screen out any references to native Buddhist yogic practices.—Nat Krause(Talk!·What have I done?) 15:01, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

text: There are many common features in Dharmic religions and Yoga is one of them. In many cases the nature and the terminology is similar. The word Hinduism appears once in the article and the lines read "Many scholars have noted that the concepts dhyana and samadhi demonstrate deep structural similarities between the conceptions of meditative practices in the two traditions of Hinduism and Buddhism." implying just that, two traditions with yogic meditative practices. Freedom skies| talk  15:39, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Which Yoga