Talk:Gay–straight alliance

message: The way the article words it, Winston-Salem/Forsyth County Schools somehow maliciously doesn't support the GSA.  In fact, it just treats the GSA as any other student-initiatied or special interest club.  For it to be treated differently, the school administration would have to start it, I believe.  I just think that could be worded a little bit better.
:I was the one who wrote the small section on WS/FCS. I was completely honest in the way the GSAs are treated and noted that it was treated as a non-school sponsored club versus a school sponsored club. The school system wouldn't have to start it in order for it to be school sponsored; a student could sponsor it, but the school system has refused to recognize the GSAs. Matt 01:00, 2 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  WS/FCS Portrayed Unfairly 

message: : The Gay-Straight Alliance at Putney High School was not forced to close down at the school itself, but it was forced to remove its website and any links to other queer youth groups, and to restrict its access to students over the age of sixteen - cn lester
I picked this piece up on the page today and put it into the article.
AirBa 12:54, 6 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GSA at Putney High UK was not forced to close 

message: I am quite sure an en dash should be used in this title and not a hyphen-minus, WP:DASH. No one will think I am being too disruptive if I move the page, right? -- Basar (talk · contribs) 23:54, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  En dash 

message: Does one exist(legally)?76.110.250.129 (talk) 01:09, 30 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Anti-Gay alliance

message: More information should be added now that a wealth of information is available with the launch today (May 17, 2010) of Egale Canada's online directory of Canadian GSAs:  MyGSA.ca. --204.237.44.231 (talk) 02:37, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Canadian GSAs

message: There are absolutely no sources for this section. Here's one http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2012/mar/02/gay-straight-alliance-homophobia-school if anyone is interested. If not, delete the section because it is useless without sources. --DavisJune (talk) 02:45, 5 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  United Kingdom  

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message: I've updated the history section, which lacked the story of the GSA founding in 1988 in Concord, Massachusetts. Now that that detail is there (more to come), the lead will have to be changed accordingly, to summarize the new information. Mathglot (talk) 11:13, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, crap; I see there's a second history section way further down, that covers some of this same information.  Why the actual founding of the GSA wasn't the first section of the body, I'll never know.  In any case, the two will have to be merged, but preferably near the top as the first "History" section.  I'll look at it tomorrow. Mathglot (talk) 11:19, 10 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Per the maintenance tag, the lead of the article may need a rewrite in order to better fulfill the goal of a lead, which is to summarize the article  in proportion to the coverage of detail in the body of the article.  For example: currently, there's a great deal of overemphasis on U.S. legal decisions in the lead, including much unique information not covered in the body at all, and way too much arcane detail about it for a lead summary, even if the body did cover it.  Most of the legal material should be moved into the body, probably in a new section under "Impact", or perhaps in a new section.  Conversely, the lead needs to be beefed up with information that is lacking, notably the very founding of the organization itself, which isn't mentioned at all.  These are not the only issues, but two of the major ones; there are others. Mathglot (talk) 00:22, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've started on this, by moving out the U.S. case law stuff to a new section, Case law in the body, and leaving a brief summary in the lead. Lead still needs a lot more work. Mathglot (talk) 22:24, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead rewrite 

message: The article suffers from a lack of focus.  To put it another way: what is this article really about?  The title has a big role in the development and scope of an article; per WP:AT, the title . Currently, the article covers at least two separate organizations with similar goals: the original, 1988 club in Massachusetts, "Gay Straight Alliance" founded by students, and the 1998 California non-profit LGBT support organization, "GSA Network".  The current article title, "Gay–straight alliance" uses sentence case perhaps suggest a different topic, a sort of genericized GSA club concept, not connected with either org, or somehow subsuming them both: "Gay–straight alliance". All three are attested in reliable sources. If the current title is kept, perhaps the other two should be split out into child articles, while retaining a summary of each of them here, following Summary style.  Each clearly passes the threshold for notability, and could easily stand alone as an encyclopedic article, but it's not a requirement to do so.  My opinion is that at least the original "Gay Straight Alliance" club from Concord in 1988 deserves its own article, as it is of historic importance in the course of development of LGBT rights in the United States, and by extension, in the world.  Either this should be that article, in which case a move would be required, or else a new article should be created for it. Thoughts? Mathglot (talk) 22:21, 12 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: As I'm fleshing out the #History section, the focus problem is becoming more apparent. For example, how does one name the subsections?  MOS:SECTIONS advises . In a single-focus article, under "History" we could have, "Concord" (the 1st GSA), "Phillips Academy" (2nd), but then, 3rd (currently, at least) is "GSA Network" and we can't just call it "Network" in parallel style, because it makes them seem all subsets of the same thing, but the first two are student clubs in Massachusetts schools in the late 1980s, whereas the latter is a 1998 California social justice and LGBT activist non-profit aimed at promting LGBT rights in schools through the formation of student clubs. So, distributing out the common part of the subject or of higher level section titles doesn't work.  Maybe have one section for clubs themselves, and another for outside orgs that support or promote them?  Mathglot (talk) 12:43, 13 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unfocused 

message: There are currently history sections in three places:
* section History, mostly about the founding of the first GSAs in Massachusetts private schools
* section History in the United States, which covers mostly the same ground, in a different way
* section History outside the United States, which covers rest of world.
These need to be merged in a rational manner. Mathglot (talk) 22:59, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fragmented history sections 

message: Just wanted to come in and mention that the Quebec header in the Canada portion of the international GSA section is completely empty. I'm not sure if it was left there as a placeholder for later or if someone has removed all of its content. User:KiraLiz1 | she/her 13:32, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quebec section missing or removed