Talk:Main Page/Archive 73

message: Hey I just created Americans of French descent, also available on List of French Americans. I worked my ass off and i thought it would be great to have a very small link on the main page for a day please. let me know Abdelkweli 21:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New interesting article

message: You have the crest of the italian royal family (or whatever) as the picture, however it still says that the hawiian maraine reserve is pictured. Harley peters 23:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  In the news.... 

message: Noboy mentions Juneteenth in the day section. Some Southerners celebrate it, at least in the U.S. It's a pretty minor holiday, but with more observers than World Press Freedom Day.
:Added. —Cuiviénen 04:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Juneteenth? 

message: So, wikipedia now has 1,200,000+ articles, but on the front page, when you enter it says 1,193,000+ articles. I know that's not the main page, but there's no discussion page for that page, so I put it on this one. Anyway, I think that should be updated to say "1,200,000+ articles." Lastofthetribe 17:13, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean the multilingual portal at www.wikipedia.org don't you? You would think that would be updated more often, but it seems not. Apparently most users (including me) go straight to the wikipedia for their language, and don't use the multilingual portal. Carcharoth 21:21, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, that's what i mean Lastofthetribe 02:34, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  1,200,000 + articles 

message: Hello, I think we should have a random userpage link in the navigation box because it is quite hard to find good userpages and with that link, we would easily find some great people. People would also comment to good users, therefore increasing community spirit and friendliness in the wikipedia community. Thanks. Jam 08:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just hold on until the Wikipedia Dating Service is launched in a few months. Jellypuzzle | Talk 09:29, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

text: How would that find good userpages? I think a better way to find good editors is by their contributions. If you want community hang out in the BBSs or join one of the project teams that tickles your fancy. --Monotonehell 09:52, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This feature already exists. Type "Special:Random/User" into the Search box, or click this link: Special:Random/User – Gurch 10:56, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried that — it gave me this. 'Nuff said, I think. Bazza 12:47, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Is that not improper usage of Wikipedia server space? Although I appreciate their openness and honesty, I guess. The user never did any useful edit. Does something have to be done about it? Piet 13:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Miscellany_for_deletion#User:Abodes. -Aude (talk | contribs) 13:20, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  How about a random userpage link? 

message: This is the head line today:
"Catalonia votes to adopt a new Statute of Autonomy, including a provision defining Catalonia as a nation."
This head line is misleading. It makes people read that Catalonia has become an autonomous nation, it is missinforming, as can be apreciated by the talk page with people asking about details of the new independence.
I suggest some words added to the head line in oder to be truthful. Something like:
"Catalonia votes to adopt a new Statute of Autonomy, not granting independence but including a provision defining Catalonia as a nation."
Maybe this is not so much "news" but it is giving true information to readers.
REASONING
The article it points to (Statute_of_Autonomy_of_Catalonia) does not explain anything about "including a provision defining Catalonia as a nation" besides (only place the word "nation" is written): 
"On January 21, 2006, Spanish Prime Minister José Luis Rodríguez Zapatero and Catalan Leader of the Opposition Artur Mas arrived at a pre-agreement about nation definition and financing in the current project of statute."
but here it is not explained what "nation definition" came to, and its significance.
It is perfectly clear that this new statue does not bring about independence. It perfects and expands the areas of autonomous government.
I am personally in favour of self-government or straight independence, but I am against misleading people, or nearly lying.
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Pablo2garcia (talk • contribs) 13:07, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Try Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors. --64.229.5.220 17:39, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading news on Catalonia 

message: Hi. 
I received a message from Wikipedia saying that I had vandalised the "List of War Criminals" page by adding the names of all of the postwar U.S. Presidents, which is factually correct when using the website's definition of a war crime.
Does Wikipedia have a policy regarding war crimes when committed by American Presidents? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.195.22.44 (talk • contribs) 16:55, 20 June 2006  (UTC)
:Please sign your posts.  And just to humor your inanity, check out WP:NOR.  If you can find a credible source listing them as war criminals, it might be considered.  Now go away and listen to Green Day or something. -Elmer Clark 21:14, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Just because I'm interested in seeing this argument on the talk page of said article... ""If the Nuremberg laws were applied, then every post-war American president would have been hanged" - Noam Chomsky, circa 1990. (Note: I'm not the original Green Day fanboy poster :-P) Preston 21:35, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please don't bite the newcomers. Thanks. —Cuiviénen 02:15, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And why is it always Green Day? You could say just about anyone, eg: The Clash or The Sex Pistols Cryomaniac 00:48, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  War Crimes 

message: It says I have new messages on the Main Page but nowhere else. What's goin' on? GangstaEB EA (comments welcome!) 21:18, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Messages 

message: I find that the DYN almost never have a date associated with them, despite the fact that most of them are of a historical nature. It would be very useful to have a year mentioned, to enable the casual reader to have some reference to when the events mentioned actually took place. Five of the six notes for today could be much more informative if they included a simple "...in 510 BCE..." or " ... the 1908...". It would be better to have the information in the blurb, instead of forcing them to go to the article, just to put it in perspective. --Nekura 22:15, 20 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Isn't the idea to provide just a teaser to encourage the reader to click the link to read more? If so then providing a balance between too much and not enough context is a fine line to tread. --Monotonehell 10:29, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the balance should err on the side of providing enough context to give people an idea of what they are reading about. If they don't understand the relevance or interest in what they are reading, then they will either click through to one of the articles, or they will not bother at all and just move on. If they find it interesting, they will click through anyway, regardless of whether the context is there or not, but if it is not there, more people are likely to lose interest. Also, readers could feel annoyed if the item was misleading and they had to click through to discover that the item had been written from a US/North America-centric point of view. Carcharoth 14:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time frame in "Did You Know" entries. 

message: Is the first time we've had the featured article of the day not have an associated picture? I really hope this doesn't happen again. Can the people behind the article agree on something, anything? What's wrong with that graph that leads the article?
And I'm sure, after we made glacial retreat a Main Pager, we're going to be accused of having an agenda. 
Nevertheless, I don't think that's anything compared to the flak we'll take for tomorrow's (as someone who worked on it during the FA nom, I well remember the reaction we got to The Protocols of the Elders of Zion — "Why are you promoting this stuff? What's worth featuring about it? It is antisemitic (insert invective here)" Much less from the far-right wing types who I fully expected to try to raise POV claims over the article's very forthright statement that they're fake. Daniel Case 03:22, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see a space where a picture should be, but it's entirely transparent.  Image error? — ceejayoz talk 04:36, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Graphs makes poor main page images. So do maps, for that matter (thumbnailed maps are generally meaningless blobs of color) but this image (a world shown in shades of orange and red) captures the point rather nicely. Raul654 04:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  A dubious featured article first? 

message: Why is the exploding Wachmann^2 comet not featured on the front page? Media is full of it, sectarians are proclaiming end of the world on the streets. This is big news like the Halley! 195.70.32.136 07:56, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Some links: Schwassmann-Wachmann_2, ,  ,  ,  .  I can't find anything from this month about it though.  Jellypuzzle | Talk 10:05, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Update the page first to reflect the new information, then ask for it to be added to the Wikipedia:In the news section on the Main Page. Piet 10:18, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

text: 73P/Schwassmann-Wachmann is the correct article. The pass by the Earth's orbit happened last month, so this is not timely -- the next time the comet and fragments cross our orbit is 2022. Better timing next time! --Dhartung | Talk 19:20, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The end is nigh! 

message: Hello. All the wikitables used in the main page are layout tables and not data tables. Therefore, for accessibility reasons, no caption, row, or column headers shoud be used. Currently, the only needed change is to replace ! with | (I've tested it in Firefox, and at first sight it seems equal). Thanks! --surueña 14:13, 21 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accessibility issues 

message: Does putting a link to an Ogrish video in a wikipedia article violate anything?  Ogrish does have permission to have the video, so is it ok to link it via wikipedia article?  I hope somebody can answer.  Thanks  TripleH1976 Wed, 19:39 p.m., 21 June 2006 (UTC)
:It is, but please do make sure there's some kind of warning of gore or heavy violence if the video is about that. —Michiel Sikma (Kijken maar niet aanraken) 08:42, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ogrish 

message: Regarding WikiMania 2006, the top of several pages say Scholarships are available; applications are due by June 28. Scholarships??? From the scholarship article:
:A scholarship is an award of access to an institution or a financial aid award for an individual (a "scholar") for the purposes of furthering their education.
I understand that WikiMania may be an enlightening and perhaps educational experience. But seriously; is this the University of WikiMania? Perhaps financial assistance would sound less... uh... scholarly. joturner 14:01, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "Financial assistance" sounds like something that everyone/anyone is entitled to.  A "scholarship" implies not an entitlement, but a merit/needs-based award that only some people will receive. -Aude (talk contribs) 01:51, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree -- this is in line with American usage for non-academic conferences (which are usually considered "educational" in a resume sense). I don't find the word "scholarship" remarkable.--Dhartung | Talk 20:29, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scholarships to U of WM 

message: I would really, really like it if the keyboard focus was set to the "search" field when the Main Page loads.  You have to click there with your mouse before you can type a search term.
There doesn't appear to be any other entries to type anything into on the Main Page - so why not have the focus go right to the search box?
:See Wikipedia:Main Page FAQ#Why doesn't the cursor appear in the search box, like with Google? - BT 23:52, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe we could have it as an option in our preferences? That would be a good comprimise. Also alot more people are using scrollwheels on their mouse, making the rationale in the faq increasingly irrelevant. 220.236.174.27 07:42, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Try searching :BugZilla: to see if this request has already been made and, if not, go ahead and make a request of the developers. - BT 13:15, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Keyboard Focus - Cursor Position 

message: Does a picture of Sadam Hussain go with the ICC discussion?
It seems out of place.
:No, it doesn't. It goes with the 'Khamis al-Obeidi, a chief defence lawyer for Saddam Hussein (pictured), is assassinated in Baghdad.' news item. Preston 04:07, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't use fair use images on , so this picture won't work. -Aude (talk contribs) 16:00, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

text: It's unfair to the other cities that are candidates, sends the message that Wikipedia supports Sochi and not the others, in my opinion. -- SmthManly / ManlyTalk / ManlyContribs 18:24, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its only the first city for which we happen to have a picture. We have pics of Salzberg as well. Some of them do really good as thumbnails. Otherswise new items will come along. What do I need to do to edit the news again? gidonb 03:28, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Image:jaques_rogge.jpg was removed from this page since it fell under fair use. joturner 06:07, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture to go with ICC 

message: Why hasn't the Battle of Banockburn been included? It's one of the most famous battles in Scottish History, yet it has been excluded. English censorship, is the most likely reason im afraid. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rossph1 (talk • contribs) 
:Im very sorry. I didnt see that it was coming up tomorrow. My apologies. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Rossph1 (talk • contribs) 
::Regardless, there are always more anniversaries than can reasonably be included on the Main Page. The editors should try to rotate the events that do appear on a given date. The point is to expose articles to more readers. --Dhartung | Talk 05:41, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can assure you, we English oppressors have got far more important things to worry about than censoring Scottish history. — sjorford++ 17:58, 24 June 2006 (UTC)

text: You should probably spell it right. ;-) Battle of Bannockburn — ceejayoz talk 19:57, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sjorford, that was beautiful. =p - Kookykman|(t)e 16:07, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  June 23rd, "On This Day..." 

message: Main page "on this day" says:
"First known sighting of UFOs: Kenneth Arnold saw nine luminous disks in the form of saucers flying above the U.S. state of Washington." 
But the first part of the sentence is not true, and is refuted by the UFO and Kenneth Arnold articles.  It was not the "first known sighting of UFO's".  It was the first widely reported post-WWII UFO sighting and the origin of the term "flying saucer". There are lots of UFO sightings prior to Arnold's in 1947.Derek Balsam 13:56, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  UFO's 

message: No one interested? Wikipedia talk:In the news section on the Main Page#Proposal for restructuring ITN Oh well then. --Monotonehell 14:19, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ITN 

message: It is regarding this:
:Welcome to Wikipedia,
:the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.
:1,210,396 articles in English
I believe the "anyone can edit" should have disclaimer that source must be verifiable, useful, and bunch of other stuff that people usually not read through. Many users and editors do not even read the bottom Content must not violate any copyright and must be based on verifiable sources. You agree to license your contributions under the GFDL. --Dooly00000 18:32, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Front Page notice 

message: Nepali language missing http://ne.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
Somebody in Admin could please add Nepali in the list of Languages in the main page.
As languages list are kept, Nepal should be included and http://ne.wikipedia.org/wiki/Main_Page should be present
:The Main Page includes only languages with more than 1,000 articles.  The Nepali Wikipedia only has 76 at the moment, and thus isn't included.  It does appear on the complete list. — ceejayoz talk 21:59, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add language Nepali ne.wikipedia.org in Languages list of main page 

message: The Cherokee language and its alphabet should be tried out. The language has been revived across the Cherokee Nation of Oklahoma. The Cherokee syllabary is one of the few Native American alphabets in existence. Hundreds of small language versions already exist and hundreds of regional dialects are used on wikipedia. Cherokee is one of the many Native American languages in part of the effort for preservation and it's taught in public schools in the region around Tahlequah, OK. Wikipedia.org can be helpful to celebrate diversity of languages native to North America. I appreciate wikipedia for reading this as I share my concern on adding another language to the wikipedia main page. + 207.200.116.13 08:30, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There seems to already be one at http://chr.wikipedia.org/ , although it only has a handful of articles at present, so it also doesn't appear in the list on the Main Page. If you'd like to contribute, just jump right in and start creating articles - there doesn't seem to be much of a community there at the moment though. You might like to read m:Help:How to start a new Wikipedia if you're interested in helping to build up the Cherokee edition. — sjorford++ 11:09, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anyone consider wikipedia.org in cherokee? 

message: When I have been on the run to look for Star Wars books on the net, I often come across Answers.com. They have been copying text from Wikipedia. Here is one of them.  Compare it to tis article Boba Fett: Pursuit. Are they allowed to copy and paste text from the English Wiki to its own site? Tell me about it on my talk page. Weirdy 23:17, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, they are allowed to copy as all text is available under the terms of the GNU Free Documentation License (See Copyrights for details).--Clawed 23:58, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, Answers.com is a mirror of Wikipedia. (see Answers.com#Parsing method for more details)--May the Force be with you!  Shreshth91(review me!) 17:27, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  answers.com 

message: The second entry is in the present tense, while the others are in the past tense. Eixo 13:41, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed.  Thanks for pointing that out. Canderson7 (talk) 14:13, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hey, what else would we anally retentive do with our time? Eixo 14:18, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: On this day...

message: Why can't they all be as short as today's Uma Thurman one?  Noone is going to read through the ones that are usually twice this length.--Pharos 16:43, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Quality's even more important than quantity, I agree. I must admit, I thought there were a few similar rickets in there when I took a look at the article, maybe a few too many for an FA, although I must confess I didn't study it in detail. The editor may have been trying to make the point that she is known for her acting rather than modeling, although it isn't at all clear and is certainly a bit laboured. Badgerpatrol 22:13, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *I've thought for some time that it would be better if these blurbs were approved as part of the FAC process, where they would be subject to a little bit of review beforehand.  One "real paragraph" like today would I think be effective in a book jacket sort-of-way.--Pharos 23:47, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Actually, that's what the first paragraph of the intro is for, definition+context, no non-crucial details. We should make sure article intros are properly written and then just reuse the text we already have. Zocky | picture popups 15:36, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA blurbs 

message: this is a much nicer picture of Uma Thurman, can someone put it up please? It's CC-AT-SA, so it shouldn't be a problem. Oskar 18:58, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Today's Featured Article picture 

message: "Statehood Day" is a red link. SCHZMO ✍ 23:01, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks; the matter has been taken care of. joturner 23:25, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  On this day 

message: I have to say that I'm pleasantly surprised that noone has come onto here in the past few days to accuse Wikipedia of racism, bias, or has tried to suggest that the featured articles chosen shouldn't have appeared, especially given the usual reactions when articles on popular actors or controversial organisations are featured on the Main Page. GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 23:31, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Popular actors aren't a problem- I think it's when the absolute nobodies get up there that people find fault, rightly or wrongly. Badgerpatrol 23:36, 25 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Actually the Main Page FA selections of the last couple of weeks have been very good. Since, say, June 11, almost all of them have been interesting subjects. Well there was  Phil Collins of course, but let's forget about him (I actually had until he showed up on the Main Page). Piet 06:58, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm impressed. 

message: I, myself, was not aware that "Kolkata" and "Calcutta" were the same city.  In the article itself it says parenthetically "(formerly Calcutta)".  Perhaps we could show this on the front page, too. AdamBiswanger1 01:17, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Raul654 02:38, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Already reported on Wikipedia:Main Page/Errors & Wikipedia talk:Today's featured article/June 26, 2006 with no response from any admins yet. Well, the day is almost over. Let it be ..... -- 199.71.174.100 23:16, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Now it's fixed. -- 199.71.174.100 23:26, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Featured Article

message: "1409 - Western Schism: The Catholic church is led into a double schism as Petros Philargos is crowned Pope Alexander V after the Council of Pisa, joining Pope Gregory XII in Rome and Avignon Pope Benedict XIII in Avignon."  Is the redundant use of Avignon necessary? Resolute 03:07, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: On this day, June 26

message: Just a small note.  The article on Wikipedia states Warren Buffet will give to a single charity, that is incorrect.  According to the news he will actually be donating to *several* charities *and* organisations.  The Bill Gates Foundation is one is one of them (yes) it is supposed to get the lion share, however it is not the only one to receive a donation. Just something to keep in mind. (Letters from Warren E. Buffett Regarding Pledges to Make Gifts of Berkshire Stock) CaribDigita 03:49, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Um.. Conflicting reports as to the amount. The bbc have 37 bn.  Kaushik twin 09:42, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  In having worked for a publishing company myself there will be conflicting reports.  The thing is, Buffet is giving away his fund's stock- according to the letters on his websites.  Stocks that wil change in value from day to day- and possibly at different times of the day.  Compound to that, most mediahouses round to either the nearest million or possibly billion.  To further complicate the whole thing, the BBC may also be rounding by the current $USD to British £ exchange rate which again fluctuates at different times of the day. CaribDigita 14:36, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: BBC, ABC, and Fortune (the original reporter of the news) ALL put the figure at $37bn (USD). ~ clearthought 02:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warren Buffet story - It's more than one Charity. 

message: The CN Tower (pictured right), the tallest freestanding structure on land, was opened to the public on June 26, 1976. Can this be mentioned in the On this day section, please ? --199.71.174.100 05:30, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for posting, Pharos. -- 199.71.174.100 22:58, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Today is the CN Tower's 30th Birthday 

message: i dont have any money to spend and to get a featured article you need to spend like $1000 on books. what a rip Krein 05:44, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: uh... wha? - Adolphus79 05:50, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually most Wikipedian steal their books from little-known but spawling government warehouses.  Then, if they return them in a couple of weeks, the well-trained but underpaid armed guards are none the wiser.--Pharos 06:08, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ROFL, armed librarians... - Adolphus79 06:11, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Amen to that.  Goverment Warehouses, I would love to have a sense of humor that good.  (Subtle jokes like that are my fav.)Dislexsick 10:30, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: LOL. Or you could just do it the old fashioned way: go to the library. And, since you have shown you have internet access, you could also do a Google on the topic to do your research. Lastly, there are many other people with many resources that would help you with your article and peer-edit it. That is the spirit of Wikipedia. ~ clearthought 16:00, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

text: That was beautiful.  I salute you! — ceejayoz talk 20:10, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, if you are using Wikipedia you are presumably connected to the internet. Try Google Scholar, JSTOR, Web of Knowledge etc; they are awesome for Wikipedia research. Batmanand | Talk 09:40, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Totally hilarious! (sarcasm) Skinnyweed 18:25, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  wikipedia fa are not for poor people 

message: Is there any way I can add an article to my watchlist without watching the accompanying talk page? This main page only changes occasionally, being protected, but this talk page gets updated daily. --Tivedshambo (talk) 07:31, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not in my knowledge. But what's wrong with adding both; you can just ignore that which you don't want to watch.--May the Force be with you!  Shreshth91(review me!) 08:19, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also the main page changes so rarely and the changes are usually not significant, so I don't see why you would watch it. Are you interested in the changing information? Because the actual information is on other pages that are included. The main page itself contains layout only and has not changed in a whole month. Piet 08:55, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm interested in the technical aspect of it - which templates are used, etc. --Tivedshambo (talk) 09:23, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For that you can just click on the "edit this page" or "view source" button depending on whether you're an admin or not. If you're trying to keep track of the changes to the templates on the Main Page, then rest assured that they are most likely to never be changed on the Main Page itself, though their content changes in their respective pages.--May the Force be with you!  Shreshth91(review me!) 10:36, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm not an admin - I'm relative newbie (about 2 months), but exploring how templates are used. I was aware of how to view source - though it seems to have changed to "how to view source" now. Thanks for your help. --Tivedshambo (talk) 21:02, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Watchlist 

message: I'd hate to edit a photo, and I'm not sure if that's really allowed, but can we get that picture of Marí Alkatiri flipped? I know we're not going to be putting a screenshot of the Main Page into the Louvre, but it seems like bad composition to have the man staring off the edge of the screen. And, for clarification, I meant flipped horizontally. joturner 17:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you should keep the authenticity of the photograph as is.--66.184.151.157 18:16, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Joturner, you may want to crop and upload http://www.imf.org/external/mmedia/photo/jpg/692691l.jpg instead of "flipping". Wikimedia Commons can take both the pre-crop and cropped versions as two different files. -- 64.229.6.150 20:37, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Edit the article to put the picture on the left?--Tivedshambo (talk) 22:28, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image Flip Request 

message: It would be much better to say "in Enfield Town" than "in the London Borough of Enfield. The former is only a small part of the borough, and it is what the article itself is linked to. London boroughs are rather artificial things, each of them formed of several communities, of which only one appears in the name (or in a few cases either none or two). It is the districts which are real communities that people relate to. Chicheley 00:52, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, so I've changed it. — sjorford++ 08:19, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Awkward usage in the anniversaries section

message: I've seen this reported on and investigated much more by people and the media and stirring up much more controversy than any of the other news titles on the main page.  This item is big, it can quite possibly qualify as treasonous activity.  It's being critisized for ruining a "working intelligence project" which has "caught terrorists and hasn't affected innocents" while being praised for revealing the US Government's "secretive and overly inquisitive" acts. I know wikipedia isn't a news hub but this seems bigger than much of the pieces already on the main page.  Should there be a link?--Exander 04:23, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's really only big on Fox News and late night MSNBC. Not ITN worth. Preston 18:38, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Treason?  For telling terrorists the NSA might be keeping an eye on them?  Next we'll be yelling treason when someone tells terrorists bombs go boom. — ceejayoz talk 20:44, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

text: The only question relevant here is "Does Wikipedia have a good, up-to-date article to highlight?" Otherwise, there is little point to an ITN blurb. --Dhartung | Talk 07:36, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well theres isolated, internal incidents such as France's iTunes ruling and the capture of an Israeli soldier on there so whats the problem?  And im saying to mention the controversial Times article, not criticisms of it.  Theres no opinion to this.--Exander 06:50, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New York Times leak? 

message: We're again having bad mainpage creep. We have a very long FA blurb, 6 DYK items, 7 ITN items, and 8 anniversaries. This is entirely too much for smaller screens, and makes it look too busy and messy on any screen. Can we try to keep it down to standard 1-2 short paragraphs for the FA blurb and 4-5 items for other features? Zocky | picture popups 20:31, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Main page creep 

message: Though maybe it is not global enough, I would say that the failed Flag-burning constitutional amendment is pretty big news. --Michael WhiteT·C 23:27, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: US only. We get accused of being US-centric often enough. —Cuiviénen 01:11, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it'd be big news if it passed. But since it didn't, I don't think the Congress doing nothing really constitutes news. Preston 19:10, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Current states outright banning flag-burning include: China, Iran, and North Korea. CaribDigita 21:56, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You forgot New Zealand (although the only attempt to enforce it failed).  But ITN is not a news service, but rather to highlight changes to Wikipedia articles based on current events. --Midnighttonight 22:22, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's odd, really. I'd think that something called "In The News" would actually have news. Not that I'm supporting mention of the flag-burning amendment. I'm just noticing a logic flaw. - Kookykman|(t)e 16:15, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's in the news, not actually the news if you get the difference.  Just thought I would update this little thing.  Tame Iti was just convicted of shooting the New Zealand flag, but for firearm offenses, not for damaging the flag (which is illegal here). --Midnighttonight please tell me off for procrastinating on my essay! 02:22, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag-burning 

message: One administrator just deleted some punctuation.
Old version:  Welcome to Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit.
New version:  Welcome to Wikipedia the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit
Please change it back. Thanks! SupaStarGirl 22:13, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I second the motion. --Howard the Duck 02:10, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This issue was discussed during and immediately following the redesign, and it was decided to keep the punctuation.  As no apparent discussion has occurred since then (and there's no evidence that this change reflects consensus), I've reverted.  —David Levy 04:00, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yay! Thanks. --Howard the Duck 08:49, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry.  I must have missed this.  I just thought it looked cleaner without the punctuation.  -- Psy guy Talk 14:16, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punctuation deleted 

message: Is there some edit war going on amongst admin> The "view source" option on protected pages (like this one) seems to be changing daily. It's currently "edit mode (read only)", the other day it was "how to view source", and I'm sure it was something else again yesterday. Any reason for the changes? --Tivedshambo (talk) 22:32, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was just going to scroll down and start a discussion on this when I saw you already had, so thanks. But who changes these tabs? How do you edit them? It's been "view source" for a while but now its what the above user said. TeckWizTalkContribsGuestbook 23:02, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: TeckWiz: Any admin can edit the text for the edit button on protected pages, which is located here.  See the talk page for a discussion of the changes.--digital_me(TalkˑContribs) 23:14, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit Mode (read only) 

message: Am I the only one who thinks the (flag pictured) should go before the full stop to read 
...the United Nations (flag pictured). ?
I'm nitpicking here, but I feel that reduces the ambiguity as to whether the flag is Montenegro's or the UN's. - Cribananda 23:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That would definitely be the best solution! - Cribananda 00:48, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought it meant Montenegro's flag on first read. :-( -Kinst 02:59, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag pictured 

message: How did you get the boxes to be exactly the same height so there is no gap on either side above the featured picture box?  On my portals the two columns are always different heights so there is some whitespace.  Ideogram 23:52, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  vertical justification 

message: Somethings gone horribly wrong!! I use Firefox1.5 and under this browser the featured article is stuck on that of the 28th of June. IE6 seems to show it fine however. Someone needs to fix this - Jak (talk) 01:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please try bypassing your cache.  —David Levy 01:55, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, thankyou, it worked after a delay. There are other problems however; the (more...) button leads to the wrong article, see Wikipedia:Main_Page/Errors#.28More....29 - Jak (talk) 02:32, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  featured picture function is broke 

message: Hello! The Mainpage is very terrible, i think. On the top, it is OK, but down is not goog, because, it´s too big. Greetings --80.130.252.215 08:51, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terrible Mainpage 

message: What happened to the deatails link to the Football portal from the Worldcup news item? Loom91 11:14, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've added it back in. -Aude (talk contribs) 23:46, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Football Portal link 

message: Dear Wikipedia,
I have witnessed a strange turn of events lately. First, my IP Address is User:65.103.86.243. Then, one day, I got a message from someone, and my talk page said User talk: User:65.103.84.79! I got used to it, then another day, I got a message, and I found that my IP Address is User:70.58.221.220! Is someone playing tricks on me? I would like you to investigate this matter.
Thanks.
:It is likely that you are accessing Wikipedia from a dynamic IP (for example if you use AOL), or that you are accessing from different computers. This means you can recieve messages that were intended for other users of the IP. You can solve this by registering with Wikipedia, which hides your IP address, and means you only recieve messages intended for you (as long as you are always logged-in). Ian¹³/t 15:01, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You don't need to give an age at all.  You don't even need an email, and you can use whatever username and password you want, there's no reason why it would be invalid.  Are you trying to create an account from the login page, maybe?  The correct signup page is here. --  68.49.4.39 17:38, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oops, signed out to get the 'create account' link and forgot to sign back in before I left the comment. Sorry! -- Vary | Talk 17:40, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Help

message: To be encyclopedic, the caption should describe (1) What bog we're looking at, (2) the time of year, and (3) the major plants seen. Melchoir 00:27, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, there's a tendency for the POTD captions to overdescribe the general article rather than the image itself. Not a huge problem though, since i'm generally too busy looking at the picture to read the text :) GeeJo (t)⁄(c) • 03:37, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bog POTD 

message: Following the discussion (transferred to Bad Jokes... p 48 - and can the various similarly named pages be redirected to the main list) on the featured article "medical image" that has been: perhaps a diagram showing the contrast would have be more appropriate for the main page. I know such things are a matter of taste but perhaps 'matters medical involving poking bits of bodies around and/or blood etc' should not be included on the main page. Jackiespeel 13:40, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: MEdical pictures

message: "The controversial DADVSI copyright bill is finally voted in France (Coat of Arms pictured). Opponents contend it could significantly curtail free software."
The writing here is not clear enough. Has the bill been voted in in France, so it's in effect, or is it now being voted on? 81.157.231.141 19:51, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah. I rewrote it (I'm not the original author). Possbily I chose slightly over-excited language, but it was difficult to make it sound interesting in one sentence! -Splash - tk 20:12, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sloppy ITN Writing

message: 1904 - The first Olympic Games in North America opened in St. Louis, Missouri. 
Why is this worthy of a place on the front page 'On this day' section? Surely more interesting thing have occured on this day is the past. And why is the first Olympics in North America or the USA which I think is really the point this is making, note worthy?
Jimmmmmmmmm 13:17 1 July 2006
::P.S it doesn't even make it on the day page. If you click July 1 it's not there so in a way proves it not noteworthy. Oh and shouldn't it say Canada day next to the date. Jimmmmmmmmm 13:22 1 July 2006
It proves that nobody bothered to list that fact under that date, and nothing more. All date pages are very incomplete. — BRIAN0918 • 2006-07-01 17:43
:I don't think there's any purpose to having a hard-and-fast rule about what gets linked in OTD. It should vary from year to year anyway, otherwise certain days would just be the four or five most historic events of that day forevermore. What's wrong with digging into the pile a little every now and then? --Dhartung | Talk 02:15, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  On this day:St Louis Olympics 

message: Can a sysop PLEASE put "We have  in English."? If so thank you. GangstaEB (talk • contribs • [/wiki/User:Interiot/Tool2/code.js?username= count] • ice slides) 13:24, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really see a point to it. dposse 16:31, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Agreed, there wasn't isn't a large grammatical problem.  --  Zanimum 17:27, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It makes more since to me. GangstaEB (talk • contribs • [/wiki/User:Interiot/Tool2/code.js?username= count] • ice slides) 18:08, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

text: What do you mean, continuity? The first sentence has a period. That means it has ended. - Mgm|(talk) 08:27, 4 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I think we had that previously, and it was removed for aesthetic reasons. zafiroblue05 | Talk 01:59, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No kidding! Hmm... I actually like the aesthetic; it's got a kind of old-school newspaper headline feel. Well, whatever. Melchoir 02:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I support Melchior's suggestion. It does reduce the jarring sentence-fragment transition. Carcharoth 20:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I strongly support Melchior's suggestion - aesthetically pleasant, quite a nice "feel" to it, and the transition jars far less.TheGrappler 14:57, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  '''WE HAVE''' 

message: :Image:Knox Johnston Golden Globe.jpg falls under fair use, and so theoretically, it should not be on the Main Page or the dozens of user pages which transclude the Main Page. Perhaps a free image, like :Image:Joshua001.jpg...
...should replace it. joturner 16:36, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Changed.  --  Zanimum 17:26, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Am I missing something? The image hasn't been changed. joturner 17:47, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Now, it's done.--May the Force be with you!  Shreshth91(review me!) 18:23, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Alright; thanks, although it would be a good idea to protect it and add . joturner 18:26, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fair Use Image on Main Page 

message: The Lindsay Lohan pic (:Image:Lohanspeak.PNG) is fair use and should be replaced ASAP! --Midnighttonight please tell me off for procrastinating on my essay! 05:47, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair Use Image 2

message: I've removed the news piece about the Mexican elections because said elections haven;t actually occurred yet. The results of the elections, which will come in tonight, would be a much better thing to have at ITN; polls mean little. —Cuiviénen 19:03, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mexican Elections 

message: Not quite, but the sizeable 2004 XP14 asteroid will pass quite clos
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/5133900.stm May be worth the WP frontpage! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.70.32.136 (talk • contribs) 15:32, 2 July 2006
:Yes if the article's been updated recently (looks like it has). Why not suggest it? --Monotonehell 09:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The end is nigh! Mankind must confess its sins! 

message: I think the picture of the featured article should be one of him being the Pope already, since that title is included in the name of the article...Cloviz 00:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The current choice was made to be safe on copyright stuff. savidan(talk) (e@) 00:23, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pope Pius XII pic 

message: "popes" doesn't need to be capitalized. My bad. Someone else fixed it in the article. Can some administrator fix this on the main page? savidan(talk) (e@) 00:22, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalization