Talk:Sonic the Hedgehog (2006 video game)/Archive 3

message: This sounds interesting, but I haven't seen anything about it yet. I checked the History and your statement is reasonable, but can anyone show me this hedgehog? I haven't seen him/her yet, and a confirmation would be nice. --Ultima 19:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Woah, never mind. Apparently this was really recent. I managed to find the info on The Sonic Stadium, now. So, any speculations on what he's about? Might as well since I already posted this here. --Ultima 19:18, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, really really recent. The screens just dropped today, I think. Who knows. So far, the "Fourth Hedgehog, Crystalline in appearance" seems to be somewhat correct. Although, it might be better to wait for a close-up before we truly say it's crystalline. Whether or not it's Silver's Mentor remains to be seen. I'm more interested in what those shots mean for Shadow's gameplay; they almost seem to imply melee attacks - like, hand-to-hand combat. BlazeHedgehog 21:22, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't forget the Chaos Powers: Chaos Blast, and possibly Chaos Spear (the yellow ball Shadow holds once). I'm curious as to what others will appear. As for the new hedgehog's energy ball, that looks like Shadow's Level 3 attack in Sonic Riders, Chaos Control, though black/dark blu-ish instead of normal blue. --Ultima 13:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

text: It looks like photoshop mischeif to me...The new hog looks astoundingly like Shadow.86.140.62.175 22:19, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, Photoshop mischief that was distributed by Sega and posted on over a dozen gaming websites. BlazeHedgehog 22:27, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: A simple "you're wrong" would have sufficed.No need to try and make me look like an idiotCenturion Ry 13:01, 10 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah, like Shadow flies and launches off giant bubbles, in a ONE-SCREEN screenshot. In multiplayer modes, screens are almost always SPLIT. Unless your post was some sort of joke, you are officially an idiot. Also, the hedgehog clearly has crystal hands and feet, and Shadow is clearly seen launching Chaos Blast in one screen (or at least the starting of letting it off). In addition, not all the screens are of Shadow glowing red. Also, what about all the small, flying creatures? It is clearly a BOSS battle, against a NEW hedgehog--not a two-player match containing two Shadow's. --Ultima 21:08, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Crystalline Hedgehog

message: In the article, Bella Hudson is said to be confirmed as the voice actress for Princess Elise. I watched the trailer and heard her voice; to me, it sounds more like Veronica Taylor because she sounds almost identical to Deila Ketchum from the Pokémon anime, and I know she's voiced by Veronica Taylor. There's also no citation for where it's says that Bella Hudson voices her. Can someone confirm that Bella Hudson is going to voice Elise with a source? Posted 13:12 August 7th, 2006 -Anonymous
There's nothing that states anything about her being voiced by either Bella Hudson or Veronica Taylor. It's all speculation. As to the reasoning why it mentions Bella Hudson--it's because people thing she sounds like Blaze (me included), and it's CONFIRMED that Blaze is voiced by Bella Hudson. That's why it says Bella Hudson. Truly, only Sonic and Eggman should be down for confirmed voices. Pete Capella hasn't been confirmed by an official source. The only reasons why Amy and Shadow are listed as confirmed is because the cast is thought to be remaining as the 4Kids voice actors, and that's whom voiced them in previous games (post-Sonic Heroes). None of them (Shadow, Amy, Silver, and Elise) should be put up as confirmed, but they are anyway. (P.S. If you're wondering about Sonic and Eggman--it's because they clearly are voiced by the same actors by their voices.) --Ultima 01:01, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Princess Elise's VA 

message: http://www.theghz.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1738&start=78
Obviously, a forum post is not a reasonable enough source to add anything to the article - but, assuming this is true (this insider has been correct about many other things before official announcements were made), keep your eyes open for any big gaming sites saying the same thing. --Shadow Hog 14:37, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Had anybody read the topic further, about a page later he admits that was just a joke. BlazeHedgehog 04:10, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Elise playable? 

message: How do we know he's fighting the new hedgehog. It doesn't show them fighting each other. It just shows Shadow fighting off some creatures and the 4th guy floating above. The 4th guy could be evil and fighting him, or he could be leading the creatures. But he could also be helping Shadow fight them by attacking them from above. He could just be sitting there. But Sonic is back as the main character, not Shaodw, so if it was a picture of someone fighting the main mystery of the story wouldn't it be Sonic? He's new and may have something related to Silver's arrival. Silver's a good guy. What if he's this "fusion" of Sonic and Shadow? Though not likely. A clone of Shadow is unlikey because all the clones already knew they were fake and just caried out orders without toughts and wouldn't be so powerful to not only defeat Eggman but the original Shadow as well.  Also an obvious DUH from Sonic Heroes to Shadow the Hedgehog. He wonders but the other clones are like uuuuuuuhhhhhh.... blank.
Axidous 15, August 2006
::This is the kind of stuff we can't answer because we don't know all the information about the game or it's neew characters, all we can go on is what's in the screenshots. -Sukecchi 23:33, 15 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Shadow vs Crystalline Hedgehog

message: Apparently, our "inside sources" have been busy recently. Not much major stuff, just some minor info. Please note that Mephiles HAS been confirmed to be the fourth hedgehog's name. The other stuff is left for speculation, which I will merely list here. This info was revealed by no specific source. Some was revealed by multiple ones. Most of the info came from The Sonic Stadium's Sonic the Hedgehog Next-Gen topic.
# Mephiles is the name of the fourth hedgehog. (Also called Mephililes by some. I'm not sure which is correct.)
# This game is NOT a reboot to the series.
# ALL the game's music (levels, bosses, events, etc.) will be orchestrated.
# Plans have been made for downloadable content.
# Apparently, Silver is the son of someone, but it isn't known who.
# Silver's parent(s) are NOT any of the original characters.
# Mephiles plays a crucial role in the story. (E.g. He's not some random person Shadow fights.)
# Neither Fang nor Chao Gardens will appear. 
I hope this helps. Again, except for the first piece of info, NONE of it is confirmed. I figured I'd post it, anyway. --Ultima 23:41, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here, I provided a source link for the Mephil(il)es confirmation. The one I listed in the main article (before it was removed) was to the third confirmation, and the third source. Here is another link which revealed the two previous sources in one post. Tweaker, TSS member, assures us that it is accurate though he has no way of showing us any material proof for it.  --Ultima 00:17, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You do realise that forum posts aren't reliable sources, right? -- Steel 00:19, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a better confirmation than some things. The best is obviously an official statement. Btw, apparently someone changed the name back to 'Mephiles' again. I didn't do it, though. Though forum posts aren't really reliable, there are three people who insist that they were told that his name is Mephil(il)es. --Ultima 15:48, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Random Revelations

message: A source would be appreciated, but this is obviously just pure speculation! --Hero of legend 12:05, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not. I continuously keep on trying to move them (and Elise) into the 'Rumored/Expected' section. No official source states it, but it's still likely. However, it still shouldn't be referenced until confirmed. As for Elise, nothing states anything about her actor--they are assuming she is played by Veronica Taylor by her voice. Eggman is obviously Mike Pollock (his voice gives it away), but for her, it can't be determined who she's played by. It sounds like either Veronica Taylor or Bella Hudson, but it's still purely speculatory. --Ultima 18:15, 25 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Where does it OFFICALLY say that Sonic and Shadow are being voiced by Jason Griffith?

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:NOT#Wikipedia_is_not_a_crystal_ball
All the speculation regarding the continuity has been removed.  This isn't the place for such things. Lengis 15:11, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  No speculation in the continuity section 

message: Does anyone think we should put up the new box art that as been showing up lately?UnDeRsCoRe 19:32, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Video Game Box Artwork 

message: On the sega-europe.com their is a new game cover so maybe this the
new game cover and their is a rating 12+ maybe T for Teen. Mr.Willison 8:15 23 August 2006
Don't count on it.  Sonic Mega Collection Plus got a 12+ rating from PEGI.  It also got an E rating from the ESRB and a U rating from the BBFC.  This is presumably due to the 'fantasy violence' in Comix Zone, which PEGI clearly treats stricter than other systems do.  If it isn't rated E, it'll be rated E10+.--Cyberdude93 02:56, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Game Cover 

message: "Silver has also been seen fighting a lava creature possibly named "Disaster", which, in name and similarities, could somehow be related to Chaos" «--- speculation
"Unknown Lava Creature - who appears to bear many similarities to Chaos of Sonic Adventure. His name is rumored to be Disaster, but, like the fourth hedgehog/Mephiles, nothing has been confirmed yet." The name Disaster was given by the fans to identify him, these two "new" bits of information are uncyclopedic.
If names allow relations then Silver and Rouge would be related...Czin 14:32, 27 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ugh, I don't know why they always refer to it as "Disaster." That's a pathetic name. Truly, I do believe that it's actually Iblis, but it may merely be the Flames of Disaster NOT Disaster. The Flames of Disaster is something that Eggman apparently gets from the princess, but we don't know what is. Truly, this shouldn't be even mentioned. For one thing, I don't even think that lava creature IS a 'character' in the game. I do believe that it's something Eggman created with the Flames of Disaster. Either way, though, it's still speculation. If these speculations pop up again, just remove them. We've been doing that for a number of speculations already. --Ultima 14:50, 27 August 2006 (UTC)

text: There is no such a thing as something called 'Disaster' in the game, or the Bible. There such a thing in THIS game called the Flames of Disaster, but the giant fiery creature is actually called Iblis (the filename of a screenshot of the fire creature on the SEGA FTP is Iblis). --Ultima 16:23, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Plot Speculation 

message: Is it really necessary to mention the robots Sonic & Co. fight in this section? At least yet? If so then we need to mention the humans in the "town stages" aswell as the different types of robots seen until now (of the top of my head I remember 3 different ones)Czin 17:27, 29 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-playable characters 

message: Has there been a confirmation I missed? I went to remove Tails from the list of Non-Playable characters (and both him and Blaze from Unconfirmed Voice Acting), only to find a previous statement (which I do believe I added in) about Tails, Blaze, Rouge, and Knuckles not being confirmed--to now say 'Knuckles and Rouge' have not been confirmed. Was this a spam effort, or have Tails and Blaze actually been confirmed? --Ultima 00:05, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tails and Blaze

message: Pete Capella is not only listed on the website www.improvjam.com as working as Silver the Hedgehog, but also on Imdb.com. Just because he's not well known doesn't mean it isn't him.
A random guy claiming to be the voice actor doesn't cut it. We need a confirmation from Sonic Team. To my knowledge, the info on imdb.com is added like the information on Wikipedia. It ISN'T reliable. I've never been to improvjam.com, either, but it still isn't reliable. Unless we get a list of voice actors from Sonic Team which credits Pete Capella (or one of his other names), it cannot unconfirmed. The only reason Eggman is listed is because he is, without a doubt, voiced voiced by Mike Pollock. --Ultima 15:04, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silver VA Unconfirmed? 

message: http://img334.imageshack.us/img334/9452/sonicpackhr0ph7.jpg
A nice high-res boxart has been released.  Resizing it so it comes under fair use won't be a problem, but it has some magazine's logo on it.  Not sure if that'd count as fair use or not, so I was hoping someone could shed light if the policy allows it.
(Or if someone could Photoshop out the logo so it can't be noticed when resized, but I'm sure none of you would do that and tell us :-)
We really need something - boxart, screenshot, etc. - to replace the boxart on the page right now, it's ugly when resized and too small when it isn't.--Cyberdude93 19:24, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm saving a copy of the old picture. That thing's somewhat decent evidence of a PC version existing... sadly, somebody decided to replace it with a low-res version of the tentative box-art, which really doesn't fit with the file name, nor does it let me use the same image elsewhere (not that I'm 100% sure where to use it). I mean, I suppose you can revert images, but still... --Shadow Hog 01:29, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean the promotional one I uploaded? Ya, I know. Someone saved over it with a low quality box art. I'd revert it, but I don't know how to. UnDeRsCoRe 03:29, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  As I said above, maybe we should use the American PS3 cover, although it's not at hi-res. Once again, it's this: http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g265/ChaosAngelZero/SonicPS3cover.jpg ChaosAngelZero 14:43, 04 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding a higher res box-art? 

message: Ok, that's strange, and half surprising... but I want to know where it came from. Can one of these hackers please post some sort of source? As far as Elise and Eggman goes, that's who I speculated for both. For Sonic and Shadow... what?! I'm going to look that up. Then for the 'F' and 'M' part. Now, I don't know who 'F' could be other than Fang or a new character (the latter is more likely), but 'M' could be Mephiles. I'd like some source, here, please! I won't delete it yet, though. --Ultima 14:19, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if they have a source. It's not credible. Unless Sega themselves states the voice acting, than we cannot take this seriously. UnDeRsCoRe 14:21, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You sure? According to that, it came directly from SEGA's official gamesite. If we can get a picture of this on the gamesite (or even a link), that'll confirm it. Also, I looked up Marc Valeras and found nothing. However, I found quite a few things for Marc Valera, no 's' at the end. It's a rather unusual pick, but if this is the same person, than it's sounding pretty accurate. Strange, but accurate. (I myself always thought Elise was voiced by Bella Hudson, anyway.) --Ultima 14:39, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe so. But then again, site hacking isn't exactly the best way to get information. And anyone can easily manipulate an image to mkae it seem so. I'm just saying, we should only count it as "confirmed" if Sega states. Regardless, of hacking. UnDeRsCoRe 14:56, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New Actor List

message: Is there any hope of this game coming out for the Nintendo Wii?  Raccoon Fox • Talk • Stalk 16:01, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait.... what? Roybertito 23:43, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wot, No Wii? 

message: Does anyone know if crush 40's music will be in the game?
:WE DON'T KNOW! I don't think that the talk pages should be used for asking stuff like this, either. --Ultima 12:13, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's no harm in asking, but yelling and being disruptive is. Inforazer 20:47, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crush 40? 

message: I'm reading the artical on this game, and it says rings can be used to buy things in the black market, in the Chao Garden. Is this just an example on what type of things they could be used on, or is a Chao Garden actually in this game? I'm sure I remember Sega annoucing that SA2:B would be the last ever Sonic game to feature a Chao Garden.
Thanks in advance.
:Like the Chao Garden. It is used as an example. There is no Chao garden in this game. BlazeHedgehog 20:17, 6 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chao Garden? 

message: I can't find the character page on the Japenese Gamesite could someone give me a link or tell me how to get there because when I go to the Site it Shows Sonic Running and nothing else.
Hey, I don't even get that. All I get is the "Now Loading" dialog. Knuckles sonic8 00:12, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ugh, it won't load properly for me, either. I have seen screenshots of the character page, though. Yes, all the characters are listed, and yes, it is the speculated ones. Even Blaze and Omega are there--and it had been confirmed to be them. I'm still trying to get on there, too. --Ultima 13:48, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Japenese Gamsite

message: I was wondering how you pronounce Mephiles? MindWraith 07:46, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't really know, either. I'm guessing that it's pronounced Mef-i-lees, but I'm not sure. --Ultima 13:49, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Mephiles

message: Does any one know or anyone that speaks or can read japanese on that crappy website. It wont tanslate arghh Mr.Willison 20:24, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese 

message: in the jap website shadow is seen holding an energy type attack choas spear? maybe an attack u can buy. Mr.Willison 16:05, 12 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I do believe that it IS Chaos Spear. However, that's not how it works. Shadow starts off with Chaos Spear. The upgrades he buys are upgrades for his vehicles. --Ultima 14:26, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Buying ablity 

message: I saw on the page that the song from the JPN Website was removed. I wonder why... The only reason I could think of is that maybe people were ripping it but I don't think that's it. Still, they shouldn't have removed it just like that with no explanation. (Knuckles_sonic8)
:There are two possible explanations to this...well, make it three, but I doubt it's the third. First--your answer. They didn't want people ripping it (too late). Second, the theory that I find best, the song was so high-quality that it bogged down the site (AKA, made it run slowly). A number of people have seen the site running slowly, and it's highly possible that it was for that reason. Third--SEGA decided to remove it because people didn't like it. For this one, I HIGHLY, HIGHLY doubt that it is the case. Since when has SEGA listened to the idiotic fans, anyway (Thank God!)?! If you want a version of the song, I have it uploaded to my website. I'll send ya' a link if you want... but let's do it in an email. --Ultima 14:30, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: His World... Gone?

message: On the main article of this game someone stated tails being a playable character and said there's a picture of him on the main japanese website. I dont see anything.
:The picture hadn't been added yet. Sonic Team was about to add a new page, and someone managed to uncover the page that had the screenshot. Links to the screenshot was posted, now (not on the gamesite, though). Oh, yes, and I was the one who posted that piece of info. Someone added links to the screenshot, now (along with a second one). --Ultima 14:24, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a great find! Knuckles sonic8 01:25, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: But he isn't a playable character.Czin 12:09, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And that's not Tails pictured in that gameplay screenshot? --Ultima 20:39, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't seen any screenshot with him, and even if he is there, he is just an npc like any citizen of Station Square in Sonic Adventure.Czin 22:39, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: http://membres.lycos.fr/spinattack2/Sonicautres/action04_04.jpg BrokenBeta [talk · contribs] 16:12, 16 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Whats the big deal ?

message: I recently removed a part of the article. It read:
"
===Rumouered characters===
*Cream the Rabbit
*Big the Cat
*Tikal the Echidna
*Fang the Sniper
"
I felt it should be removed - there are so many rumors flying around about the characters that will appear it's not even funny. Knuckles sonic8 19:57, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Character Confusion

message: *Cream the Rabbit
*Big the Cat
*Tikal the Echidna
*Fang the Sniper
"
I felt it should be removed - there are so many rumors flying around about the characters that will appear it's not even funny. Knuckles sonic8 19:57, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rumouered characters

message: So everyone is aware, the song, HIS WORLD, is now back except it's only an instrumental version now (kinda like the one on the American site). Knuckles sonic8 20:01, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: His World...Back...Sorta

message: Zebrahead stated on a previous radio interview on the 13th that they are currently recording the full version of the song. Instead of only Ali and Matty recording the song it will be the entire band.
:Just because they are doing it on that date, it doesn't mean that SEGA of Japan is going to put it on the site right away. Oh, and according to that interview (or maybe it was a separate interview, I don't know) the new version will be rock as opposed to rap. --Ultima 19:32, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: His World returns on September 19th