Talk:Lemonade

message: In Ireland and Northern Ireland there are two drinks, similar to the clear lemonade sold in the UK and Ireland, called "Red lemonade" and "Brown lemonade". Red lemonade has some additional flavourings which are consistent between brands and distinguish it from normal clear lemonade. Brown lemonade is flavoured with brown sugar which gives it a slightly different flavour and a brown tinge, is also sold by multiple companies in Northern Ireland, and is also consistent between brands as a distinct product from regular clear lemonade.
Both drinks are mentioned in the article on Irish cuisine, but they redirect to this page, which contains no information about either drink. Any edits I've tried to make to either of the original pages have been reverted and the pages re-redirected to this page which, again, does not contain a single mention of either. Sources, while extant, are difficult to come by in any quantity or quality given the limited scope of the products (Red lemonade only being available on the island of Ireland, and brown lemonade only being available in Northern Ireland). Both are utterly ubiquitous in their respective countries, to the same degree as cola. If it were an acceptable source, I could literally go across the road to any corner shop and take a picture of a bottle of brown lemonade beside a bottle of clear lemonade of the same brand, but of course I doubt that meets the standards of a citation.
At this point, after a few attempts to add any kind of reference to these drinks, I'm as a loss as to how information about them can be added to Wikipedia. They both definitely exist, they're both definitely distinct products from regular clear lemonade, and they probably ought to be referenced somewhere.
Any advice?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.2.32.198 (talk) 02:31, 5 February 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I've been wanting to do the same thing, but I'm struggling to find any good sources. It doesn't help that multiple manufacturers claim to be the originators. So much of the drink is shrouded in mystery and urban legend; the most famous probably being that it's banned outside of Ireland due to a colouring used in it. Untrue of course, but all this uncertainty makes adding a dedicated section very difficult.Willzonk (talk) 14:50, 25 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Red and Brown Lemonade 

message: The article says in one part, with no citations:
"There is also a variant of Lemonade which is actually peach flavoured ade. The "Peach-Ade" containins no sugar. There has been some controversy over its levels of E951 (Aspartame) artificial sweetener, a possible carcinogen. Many soft drinks contain this chemical, but only in small quantities".
There are so many reasons why this paragraph seems like it should be removed. First of all, "peach-ade", whatever it is, has nothing to do with lemonade. Aspartame, a carcinogen? If you're going to make a statement like that, a citation is definitely mandatory. And I'm pretty sure any aspartame-containing beverage uses it in small quantities.
If no one gives any reason why it ought to stay here in a few days, I'll go ahead and remove it. Ralphael 01:40, 16 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wholly agree! Ditch it. Theophani 14:17, 8 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The various descriptions of lemonade outside the USA essentially resolve to a 'carbonated sweet soft drink'.  The definition of lemonade in the USA is home-made lemon juice. So it is American usage which is non-standard, not all the rest.  Accordingly, shouldn't the definition be changed to refer to 'carbonated sweet soft drink', with the definition of home-made lemon juice defined as an American usage?203.184.41.226 (talk) 02:00, 29 July 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  What! 

message: which language did the word Lemonade come from?
  
:Lemon + http://www.answers.com/-ade "A sweetened beverage";  the -ade suffix ultimately is from Latin. 213.169.5.124 16:20, 21 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Link dead! Please, does anyone else know a link to an etymology? Wiktionary just states that it is from French, but not what the etymology of the suffix is or where it really originated. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/lemonade Esben (talk) 00:46, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Being born and raised in Germany, I have never seen any type of Cola referred to as 'Limonade', which is the German word for 'lemonade'. 'Limonade' generally refers to carbonated soft drinks with typically either orange, lemon, lime, or a combination of these; sometimes other kinds of fruit can be used as well. It can be specified further as 'Orangenlimonade' (orange taste) or 'Zitronenlimonade' (lemon and/or lime taste). Informally, 'Limonade' or, short, 'Limo', refers to the orange variant, while the lemon/lime variants are usually referred to as 'Sprite'. Regionally, I have also heard the name 'Silberlimo' (silver lemonade).
The Dutch don't seem to use the term 'lemonade' at all. A carbonated orange soft drink is called 'sinas', or by the brand name 'Sisi'. The lemon / lime variant is called '7-up', or short, 'up' (with a French 'u'). There is also a less sweet, but otherwise identical, lime soft drink, going by the name of 'Spa Citroen'. The syrup + water combination is called 'ranja'.
I am as well born and raised in Germany and in my understanding of the term "Limonade" Cola and  cola-like beverages are definitely included. Btw, the German language version of this article also refers to Cola as "Limonade"/lemonade. However, I am afraid that I cannot confirm that the lemon/lime variants are usually referred to as 'Sprite' and I have never ever heard 'Silberlimo'. It seems the use varies in different regions of Germany.
:Perhaps seperate sections are in order, according to region?  Where are each of you from?--Joel 17:16, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In Germany, Limonade means any carbonated soft drink with fruit or herb flavour. Carbonated water is not called Limonade. Coke isn't called Limonade (even if you could ponder if it might not be technically belong to this categogy). If Limonade is ordered without any further specification of flavour, one usually gets Orangenlimonade (a carbonated drink with orange flavour; Fanta being the most popular brand). --Klaws (talk) 12:05, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lemonade in Germany 

message: I need to know what the origin of pink lemonade is. If the Pink Lemonade entry is going to forward here, then it should definitely have it's own section with a history of the drink. Since there is very little difference in taste, it should most definitely be explained. I am having a debate with friends and we can't find accurate information on the subject, and here I want wikipedia to be my primary source for all of the world's information.
GOSH! WHY IS IT PINK??
WHY PINK??
WHY NOT BLUE?
WHERE DID IT COME FROM?
:Traditionally, beet juice.  Beets (like lemons) are cheap, and strongly-colored enough that they don't alter the flavor very much.  Perhaps it originated with red sumac tisane, though, which has a similar taste and appearance.
:I'll go ahead and add this to the article.--Joel 02:17, 12 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've bought pink lemonade concentrate which used grape as the pink coloring; I haven't seen any using beet juice that I can recall. Is that a current coloring, or is it no longer used? H-ko 04:10, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I don't believe beet is used by big companies.  I think it is more of the traditional "county fair" recipe.--Joel 02:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)

text: As I said before, and this is wild speculation on my part, I believe that pink lemonade began as an effort to make large quantities of imitation sumac beverage.  But it may just be that pink is a cheap & easy color to achieve.--Joel 02:07, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I second Joel's opinion. I was raised believing that Staghorn Sumac was the basis for pink lemonade, and that it was only named pink lemonade because it's flavor resembled lemonade. We used to make it when I was a kid. The staghorn sumac article even mentions this use of the tree's fruit. 209.255.33.150 (talk) 23:50, 22 September 2009 (UTC)

text: It definately needs explained a bit more in the article. But actually there is a slight difference in taste between pink lemonade and (normal) lemonade by the same vendor. However there is a larger difference in taste between different commerical brands of lemonade of the same type. Jon 19:41, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

text: I've read modern recipes that call for cranberry juice to be added or a few drops of grenadine to achieve the pink color.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Altairisfar (talk • contribs) 02:25, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I found a rather interesting article on this at Chow.  What Is Pink Lemonade?According to this, there ARE pink lemons, but not really used for pink lemonade.  Seems to be mostly added color.  I personally have witnessed though a pink lemonade made at a county fair that used pink grapefruit in with the lemons to give it a distinctive color and flavor.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jarnor23 (talk • contribs) 18:46, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pink Lemonade 

message: The stuff about the TV show "The Apprentice" is clearly off-topic.  It seems you should say that it's a notable childhood activity to set up a lemonade stand, and then leave it at that. BrianGCrawfordMA 20:58, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Apprentice?  Why? 

message: My husband and I have bought citrus sodas imported from Italy - lemon-flavored limonata, and a grapefruit flavored one which name I can't remember right now. We've used both to make shandys - much, much better than 7-up or Sprite, which are both much sweeter. I assume that since the lemon flavored sodas were from Italy, that limonata is their "lemonade" - is that right? H-ko 04:06, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Italian lemonade? 

message: I have a fruit here called a lemonade. It looks like a cross between a lemon and some other citrus fruit. Does anyone know about it (there's nothing about it in the article as yet). Aioth 07:05, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "Lemonade" is a cultivar or variety of lemon fruit,  it is supposedly sweeter than other lemons,  and a good choice for making home-made lemonade.Eregli bob (talk) 05:01, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lemonade Fruits 

message: Apparently a lemonade made in India in colonial times and liked by the British. Curiously, spoken of as being in two halves: "we can have the other half [of the drink] later". Does anyone know the origin of this usage?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.145.242.85 (talk) 00:16, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nimbu  

message: Why doesn't this article mention the common cultural phenomenon in the United States of children's lemonade stands?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.195.221.204 (talk) 20:50, 15 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done There is now a section devoted to "Lemonade in American culture" and a separate, standalone article Lemonade stand. Kent Krupa (talk) 01:36, 22 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Mention of the Lemonade Stand? 

message: What are the health effects of lemonade. Like fresh squeezed lemonade and stuff.
I read in article that lemonade can effect your stomach juices and ruining the lining of your stomach. Or some stuff like that.
Maybe you should add the health effects of lemonade.71.142.214.138 (talk) 07:19, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Health Effects 

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message: The aides joke isn't a proverb nor in keeping with the tone of the rest of the article.  I suggest we either remove it or move it to a section named something like “potentially offensive jokes not really about lemonade” --JJ Bosch (talk) 06:29, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Off color joke 

message: The section on "Pink Lemonade" states that this variety was "enjoyed by whites during colonial times."  Somehow this expression seems colloquial and inferior to proper encyclopedic style.  Wouldn't "European colonists" or something similar be a more neutral expression?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by ReubenGarrett (talk • contribs) 02:57, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree and made the change as you suggested. SQGibbon (talk) 04:36, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Enjoyed by whites?" 

message: The American section seems largely redundant in that A) it repeats large chunks of information represented elsewhere in the article, B) parts of it read like an advert thus lessening the encyclopaedic value of the article, and C) sections containing an equal amount of information but in relation to non-American countries have been removed.
According to the overall rules and the editing rules of wikipedia, this section is redundant and should be rolled into the article proper, as it doesn't deserve its own section. And if it does, then sections pertaining to recipes and preparations in other countries need to be restored and not deleted in the future.
Really, I'm calling shenanigans, here. This isn't professional.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.107.172.208 (talk) 20:01, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundant Section 

message: Should something be added about how (cloudy, still) lemonade is often drunk hot, at least in the US? It seems something intrinsic to the drink, for me, but I wanted other opinions. Tyrannophobe (talk) 03:54, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have any reliable sources that could be used to verify the weight of the information? - SudoGhost 04:04, 27 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hot Lemonade 

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message: Lemonade is also the name of singer Beyonce Knowles-Carter's groundbreaking visual album released April 2016. The term reflects the well-known saying "when life gives you lemons, you make lemonade", the words of wisdom handed down to Beyonce from her grandmother Hattie.
175.34.150.148 (talk) 11:20, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: as stated at the head of the article For other uses, see Lemonade (disambiguation)This lists numerous other uses for Lemonade - including 3 albums before Beyoncé's - Arjayay (talk) 13:14, 25 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 April 2016 

message: The current image is not very good. The pitcher is not in focus, not fully shown and not centered. Needs to be updated with a new photo. --2602:304:CFD4:B620:9D34:D3D4:89BA:210D (talk) 18:47, 2 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs better image 

message: Seeing the reference to limonana, the lemon-mint drink, I'm curious why there's no mention of cherbat (the name literally just means "drink," and is etymologically related to "sherbet"), a Tunisian variation of lemonade flavored with mint and rosewater. No other page for this drink exists in Wikipedia, so it seems like it might as well go here as anywhere. --2601:241:200:D530:5CB7:2433:A6ED:BDBF (talk) 00:01, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not think it is a 'why' (which would suggest a deliberate omission) but merely a 'nobody added it yet'. As it is also known in e.g. Algeria, I used 'Northern Africa' in stead of 'Tunisia', though. Richard 07:44, 3 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cherbat