Talk:Romansh language/Archive 1

message: The Romansh section of Romance copula needs some attention.
If you can describe how the verb "to be" works, go to it! Chameleon 22:59, 22 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Assistance

message: Pardon me if I do not adhere to the correct stylistic conventions for talk pages; I am a relative Wikipedia novice. 
I have added a slightly less-specialist introduction to this page, giving some figures and context for the language both in the country, in Europe and relative to the other Rhaetian languages. This is my first significant addition to a linguistics page on WP; I am only an interested amateur in the field.
References & sources:
* http://www.romansh.ch/
* http://switzerland.isyours.com/e/guide/graubunden/romansh.html
* http://www.bartleby.com/65/rh/RhaetoRo.html
Liam Proven 00:25, 23 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: New intro

message: "Romansh is not a single language but a group of closely-related dialects"
Anyone think of an organic language which ISN'T a group of closely-related dialects?
:It's possible there are a few cases where the language-dialect distinction is meaningless because every speaker uses the same dialect, but Romansh is clearly not an example of this. I have changed this paragraph accordingly. Jsteph 06:16, 25 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Single language ?! 

message: I have taken the liberty of renaming the chapter called "Sociolinguistics", as it obviously is rather on Dialects than on Sociolinguistics. --Unoffensive text or character 16:03, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sociolinguistics? 

message: ...about half the size of Switzerland's largest community of speakers of a non-official language, with some 111,000 speakers, quoth the article, but what is this "non-official language"? Jpatokal 12:00, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've tried to add an acceptable description of which language - sorry, languages - are being talked about, because the previous situation was silly. It might make more sense to delete the sentence completely. --Dtcdthingy 19:27, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Half the size 

message: Is it accurate to call the Romansh-speaking peoples of Switzerland and Italy "Romansh people" when designating their ethnic group, or would they better be considered Italian people, or something else? Static Sleepstorm 08:11, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Italians? Certainly not, if you do not want to offend them. I have heard the term "Bündnerromanen" used (i.e. Romanic people of Graubünden) and I suppose "Romansh people" would be a good English translation. Unoffensive text or character 08:32, 23 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Romansh-speakers 

message: Under the "Letters" section, the Romansh alphabet is given. Below that are the names of the letters. Mein Gott/Mon dieu! The name for "X" has been X-ed out; or perhaps, in accordance with this Letter of Mystery, it has no name! Writtenright 04:04, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the name for the letter "X"? 

message: Why does the chart comparing the Rhaeto-Romansch languages of Swizterland compare them to Portuguese? Why not one of the Romance languages spoken in the area like French, Italian, or Ladin?
Arthurian Legend 18:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  why portuguese? 

message: The article says: "official logo of the Confederation features all four languages". What is that official logo? I don't see any languages on the Coat of arms of Switzerland. Is it some other logo? --Amir E. Aharoni 12:35, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was wondering that too. Maybe it's referring to the text next to the coat of arms on http://www.admin.ch/index.html Angelastic (talk) 22:26, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Couldn't find a source. Removed the statement. Yours in friendliness, GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:18, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I guess the statement came from this article, but it's still not clear what it refers to (I guess it is their letterhead, and/or the thing on admin.ch that I mentioned before), so I think we should leave it out.--Angelastic (talk) 11:43, 1 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Official logo of the Confederation 

message: That language does not exist... It is mentioned in the first paragraph.
:Please sign your posts by striking the tilde key four times. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 19:02, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serbo-Croatian 

message: Is 'Romontsch' an alternative spelling for 'Romansh' or is it an other language ? Arno Lagrange ✉ 01:25, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "Romontsch" is how Romansh is spelled in the Sursilvan variety. The book you refer to deals with Sursilvan. --Benne ['bɛnə] (talk) 09:48, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Romontsch 

message: The article title is "Romansh", but the top of the Language infobox says "Romansch" (and "Rumantsch" under that).  Shouldn't the two top names be the same? —Steve Summit (talk) 02:27, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Fix it and see what happens. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 14:20, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  top name 

message: I am deleting the "fact" about the other languages because it lacks a source (requested since February 2008). Please reinstate, with a citation, if possible. Sincerely, GeorgeLouis (talk) 17:28, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yugoslav languages 

message: some romansch, german-romansch and italian-romansch surname and name.¿?
Some first names: Andri, Bistgaun, Curdin, Dumeng, Flurin, Gieri, Linard, Murezi, Peider, Stiafen, Tumaisch...--151.51.60.165 (talk) 19:45, 10 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Romansch surname

message: Why do You always refer to "Grisons"? The Romansh inhabitants call it Grischun, the Swiss-German citizens name it Graubünden and the neighboring Italians know it as Grigioni. So why does this article use a french term?
::No, this is the English wikipedia, therefore it uses the English term which also happens to be Grisons--unless you want to call it "the Grey League". 22:34, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excuse me, is this the french wikipedia? 

message: Has Romansh seen a precipitous decline in the last fifty years or more?  Is it holding steady?  Is it growing?  I know it seems there is more government support for Romansh lately, but has this translated into more or fewer speakers or about the same percentage?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.227.210.207 (talk) 22:37, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language status 

message: Codes for what? Several languages or dialects are mentioned just before this sentence.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.140.57.113 (talk) 13:57, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Codes for Romansh, i.e. all the dialects spoken in Switzerland. Ladin (of Italy) and Friulian have separate codes. +Angr 13:43, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The ISO 639 language codes are rm and roh.

message: Is Romansch not the most common English spelling? —Wiki Wikardo 12:18, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Romansh and Romansch are about equally common in English. I certainly think Romansh makes more sense, since it's a uniquely English name for the language, so we might as well use the typically English spelling of the sound . By that I mean that Romansch (with the c) is neither the native spelling (which is Rumantsch with a u and a t) nor the German spelling (which is Romanisch with an i), so it's not as if we're borrowing some other language's spelling. So since we're using English's own spelling anyway, we might as well go all the way and spell  sh, as it's usually spelled in English, rather than use the sch spelling that might make people think that spelling is borrowed from some other language, which it isn't. Does that make sense? Anyway, as far as WP:COMMONNAMES is concerned, I don't think the spelling with the c is significantly more common in English than the spelling without it. +Angr 13:36, 5 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That makes sense to me too. Also the Google Ngram tends to confirm that there is no predominant spelling, so this article probably shouldn't be moved. mgeo talk 10:45, 8 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move page