Talk:Peroz III

message: "A small band of Arabs under determined and brilliant leadership, with a revolutionary social message of materialistic and spiritual nature, defeated several Persian armies and conquered the Sassanian Empire. The king was killed, but his family with his nobles and his court reached China through Transoxiana, where for some decades they maintained a court in exile and tried unsuccessfully to make a comeback. (This event can be traced through the peculiar Chinese and Japanese face masks, showing the enormous Persian noses, and other Sassanian arts and artifacts in the Japanese Imperial Repository, the Shosoin, in Nara). The court artisans accompanied the Sassanian princes to the Chinese capital, Chang-An and Chinese pottery and textile design was profoundly influenced by Sassanian motifs, as was the derivative Japanese art." 
*It seems that Prince Pirooz's presence in east Asia influenced the pottery of Tang period China, as well as Nara and Heian period Japan (since Japan borrowed greatly from Chinese culture).(!Mi nombre es amoladora de la carne y traigo el dolor! 23:43, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The source you are using is not reliable (author is an electrical engineer).--Dipa1965 (talk) 22:38, 5 August 2012 (UTC)
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message: Hi Ravichandran 
Your deletion of verifiable  content regarding Piruz (from Ferishta0 without discussion is unjustified . Request please discuss here before deletion . As a matter of fact no other content on this page provides the proper references other than the one you have chosen to delete . The article is about Piruz and the cited content you have removed is also regarding Piruz taken from Firdausi .Intothefire (talk) 06:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He was correct in deleting the information. See my comments in the thread below. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 06:30, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well the content you've put up here is about Piruz, son of Yazdgerd II. Well, I could've moved the content to Piruz but didnt have time. I request you to do the same. I've already explained my reason in the 'Edit summary'. -Ravichandar 10:05, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion of cited content by user Ravichandar84

message: Firdusi records the death of Piruz in the Shah Namah , there is no mention of his going to China .Here is the complete section taken from the http://persian.packhum.org . 
§ 4 How Pírúz fought with Khúshnawáz and was slain 
This done, he called on God and marched his powers
From Samarkand. On that side Sháh Pírúz, 
The frantic, led his troops on like a blast; 
On this side Khúshnawáz with fearful heart
Prayed privily before the holy Judge. 
The drums and trumpets sounded in both hosts, 
The air was ebon with the armies' dust, 
And from them both such showers of arrows rained
That blood ran down like water in a stream. 
Then, like a dust-cloud, Sháh Pírúz advanced
With mace and Rúman helm, and as he drew
Anear to Khúshnawáz,* 
the Turkmans' chief
Retreated, turned his rein, and showed his back. 
The foeman followed fiercely. Sháh Pírúz
Spurred forward with few followers and fell
With others—chiefs and Lions of the day
Of battle—in the fosse, such as Hurmuz
His brother, glorious Kubád and others—
Great men and princes of the royal race—
Till seven had fallen headlong, men of name
With golden casques. Then Khúshnawáz returned
Rejoicing to the fosse and lifted thence
The living while the throne bewailed their fortune. 
Now Sháh Pírúz, that chief of chiefs endowed
With Grace and state, had broken head and back, 
While of the princes, save Kubád, none lived: 
Thus host and empire went adown the wind. 
Then Khúshnawáz advanced with heart content, 
And head exalted with his warrior-host, 
And gave to spoil the baggage and the foe, 
For right and left were indistinguishable. 
They made some prisoners and what numbers more
Were stretched by arrows on the sombre soil! 
C. 1595 
'Tis not for world-lords to be covetous, 
For hearts that covet are the dark dust's mate; 
The never-resting sky ordaineth thus
Alike for subjects and for king's estate, 
And wringeth its own fosterling, be he
A fool or wisdom's pillar. None can stay
Upon this earth of ours eternally. 
Make right thy provand: naught is left to say. 
When Khúshnawáz had crossed the fosse his troops
Lacked not for wealth. They bound Kubád with
fetters
Of iron, heedless of his throne and race. 
When tidings reached the people of Írán
About the fosse and how Pírúz had fought, 
A wail of anguish went up from the land
For all those princes—men of high degree—
And when the tidings had been certified
Balásh descended from his golden seat, 
Plucked out his royal locks and strewed sad dust
Upon the throne. Within Írán the host, 
The cities and the women, men, and children, 
All wailed, all rent the hair and tore the face
For grief, talked of the Sháh and yearned for him; 
All sat in dole and woe while great and small
Took thought what course to choose and whether they
Should quit Írán and see where fell the fray? 
Cheers ~
Intothefire (talk) 06:24, 4 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This material is about Peroz I, son of Yazdgird II, not Pirooz, the son of Yazdgird III. Please see this section of his article that describes his death at the hands of Khushnawz. Any further addition of the above material to the 'proper' Pirooz's article will be deleted. --Ghostexorcist (talk) 06:20, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Personally, I feel that Peroz I could be moved to Peroz and Pirooz to Pirooz (pretender) since there was only one Sassanian king by name Peroz who actually reigned. -Ravichandar 10:48, 8 February 2008 (UTC)

text: There is an extensive description of the reign of Firuz, the Sassanian king in 'The Seven Great Monarchies of the Ancient Near East' by George Rawlinson. He was defeated in the first battle with Khushnawaz and ordered to prostrate before him. The Huns DO NOT belong to the 7th century AD. The Hun invasions occured in Europe, Persia and India in the 5th century AD. The Huns were one of the barba4rian tribes which put an end to the Roman Empire and the Gupta Empire. -Ravichandar 10:38, 8 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Piruz did not go to China according to Firdausi

message: He and some other Iranian nobles in China seem to have been Christian , interesting. --HistoryofIran (talk) 11:42, 5 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Peroz III was.. Christian?