Talk:Emmanuelle Arsan

message: IP-address  92.37.216.162 added the date 12.06.2007 as Emmanuell Arsan death. The only confirmation of that I could find was the IMDB-database. But IMDB also says she was born 1928, not as here stated 1932. Did she die? And when was she born? Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 10:05, 13 February 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: IMDb is not a reliable source for important information such dates of birth and death as anyone can edit it. We need an obituary or news article. --Racklever (talk) 06:31, 9 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: You are right. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 07:48, 9 May 2014 (UTC)

text: It is just a list. We need something like a obituary in a solid news source. I searched the LA Times once, but it goes only as far as 2008. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 09:24, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arsan died in 2007? 

message: It says there "Arsan was born in Bangkok, Thailand, her father was a thai ambassador". The spelling of "thai" without a capital latter notwithstanding, what does this actually mean? Her father was a Thai ambassador to Thailand? That is utter nonsense.
109.245.131.80 (talk) 21:59, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does it really mean? 

message: Because of the hefty list of pseudonyms used by Arsan, I have taken the liberty to move most of them from the lead into the infobox. I have also reverted one edit which put them back into the lead.
MOS:LEADALT states that in "articles about people", "one or two" alternative names can appear in the first sentence of the lead. Furthermore, if long lists of alternative names clutter the lead, it is suggested that they are footnoted instead - here I have put them in the infobox. Since it's a consensus demanding decision, please refer to this discussion if you want to put the names back into the lead. Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 21:28, 24 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pseudonyms 

message: User:Jopsach added to the article that she died in 2005 in Chantelouve, France. Many not so reliable sources say she died in 2007. This has always been removed here because of the lack of a reliable source. Please, give a reliable source for this new date. Jan Arkesteijn (talk) 20:47, 25 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: See source in section Illness and death. I think Lui magazine, cited here as source passes as a reliable one. It's French adult magazine, exactly the source you'd expect to publish obituaries of elusive authors of erotica.  Remember, it's an in-print published magazine specializing on the topic. A blog entry by author Jean-Claude Grosse writing about that article explains the elusiveness of Arsan: "The information on the end of her illness and her death are to me without a doubt completely verified because the journalist here [Clovis Goux of Lui] knew her." I say the source is a reliable one, and there is a reason why it's one of the few available ones giving out that information. I don't have an access to the source itself, so I can't verify the claim; I can only comment on the reliability of the source. Finnusertop (talk | guestbook | contribs) 00:29, 26 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The Lui article says she died in June 2005. It does not mention the specific date June 12 however (at least I don't see it in the article), I don't know where that came from. --Rosenzweig (talk) 07:21, 19 September 2014 (UTC)

text: I've asked User:Jopsach, who added the date, for clarification. --Rosenzweig (talk) 07:28, 19 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  When did she die?