Talk:I Don't Like Mondays

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message: Phil Wainman produced this single, not Robert John "Mutt" Lange. He did however produce the rest of The Fine Art of Surfacing. It is clearly stated on the 7" single as well as on the LP. – IbLeo (talk) 20:53, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Producer 

message: The whole story about the telex machine in Atlanta in fabricated in the Geldof autobiography.  The ghostwriter created this story.  It is very inaccurate as the writer refers to the event taking place four months prior to the first performance of the song in San Diego (it was actually one month).
On the two performances of the songs in San Diego (both on Wolfgang's Vault), Geldof can clearly be heard saying that he read about the incident and saw it on the television a month previously.  This is the ONLY time that Geldof stated the source of the story.   86.18.176.174 (talk) 19:52, 10 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Given that the story in the article is Geldof's version of events as he stated himself in a 1979 interview, and that his autobiography wasn't published until 1987, the idea that this was made up by a ghostwriter in 1987 is clearly nonsense. I also see no reason to assume that the book was written by a ghostwriter - Geldof is a former journalist - he doesn't need to employ someone to string words together for him.--Michig (talk) 16:24, 9 September 2010 (UTC)

text: The fact that this is Geldof's account of how he came to wrote it is verifiable and properly sourced and should not therefore be removed. If you want alternative theories to be included you'll need to come up with some reliable sources to back them up. See Wikipedia:Verifiability and Wikipedia:No original research.--Michig (talk) 16:37, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

text: So find some reliable sources. Books, newspapers, reputable magazines. Not bootleg download sites.--Michig (talk) 19:45, 10 September 2010 (UTC)

text: It has already been spelled out what would be considered a reliable source. You obviously haven't read any issues of Smash Hits from that era - this was a substantial interview, and while it covered primarily mainstream pop music artists, it was no less a reliable source than the other publications you mentioned. Do not remove this again. You do not have consensus to do so and you are still yet to present reliable sources that back up your preferred version.--Michig (talk) 18:34, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

text: The article states that this is Geldof's explanation of how he wrote the song, and it is properly sourced. Even if he wasn't telling the truth, this is still Geldof's account of how he wrote the song, so it stays in the article.--Michig (talk) 19:09, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

text: I've edited the article to make it clear that this is Geldof's explanation. You'll need a reliable source that states that he contradicted this in a concert before the article is changed to state that. Download sites that require registration are not suitable for citing in articles, so so you'll need a verifiable reliable source before changing the article to indicate an alternative explanation.--Michig (talk) 19:51, 11 September 2010 (UTC)

text: We need to be able to verify that he said what you say he said, and therefore need a source that can be checked. The source needs to be reliable and what he said needs to be clear and unambiguous. Sources that require payment to view/listen are unsuitable, but if you can find a written source that confirms that he says this that would be best. If Geldof had changed his story I feel sure this would have been covered somewhere. This book confirms the Atlanta story, as he does in this SPIN interview ("I happened to be there at the time").--Michig (talk) 17:55, 14 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Atlanta Tale 

message: There is a portion of an interview with Geldof and the director of the video on YouTube (BOB GELDOF reveals the TRUTH of "I Don't Like Mondays"!), which might be worth sourcing to its original; in it Geldof says that it was The Mirror newspaper which provoked the father of the girl in question to try and pursue him legally, but it was for compensation, not to have the song blocked, as the article here states. He goes on to suggest that as he didn’t mention her name or otherwise identify her in the song that the action failed. However, he says that the girl wrote to him and thanked him for making her famous, which he finds difficult to live with… There may also be information which could be added about the sources for the video, which seems strangely lacking in the article, as it was a strong reason for the success of the song (as the director says, people at the time were saying “Have you seen it…?” rather than “Have you heard it…?” It could also be noted that the album track and the single version have very different endings. Jock123 (talk) 22:54, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  More information about the reaction to the song… 

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message: This article says that the song was the sixth biggest hit in the United Kingdom in 1979, but in the end-of-the year charts later on in the article, the article says the article was fourth. Can anybdy clarify things here, please?Vorbee (talk) 17:03, 2 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Fourth or sixth?

message: I don't know what Tony Visconti said in the now unavailable bbc source, but in this episode of "Behind the Vinyl" (around 3:40) Bob Geldof remembers the "silicon chip" line being inspired by a statement made by Bill Gates (not Steve Jobs) he read in a magazine in the airplane on the way to America. Of course memory can be unreliable and he even mentions that at that point he had never heard about "that guy" before. But this is the artist himself telling the story as opposed to an uninvolved third party. El Grafo (talk) 09:18, 27 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jobs/Apple or Gates?