Talk:Caning in Singapore

message: [It is a pity this appeared on the main page, because it is wrong: the cane is made of rattan, not bamboo, and the number per year is actually over 6,000.]Alarics (talk) 08:55, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: DYK comments by Alarics

message: Is there any information on the amount of damage caning can result in?  I checked the wiki page for general "caning", but could not find any information on this either.  I am interested in what kind of "pain" this form of punishment is capable of dealing, and how successful it is in detering future crimes. 68.102.37.191 08:01, 20 August 2006 
:Would you please sign your additions with four tildas (~) so that everyone can follow the thread of the conversation and keep comments below the message box above?  As for caning, damage is related to the type of instruments with which the beating is administered.  China traditionally flogged with two sorts of bamboo - the heavier bamboo being a more serious punishment than the lighter.  Those bamboos could split the skin, scar permanently and in fact kill.  Singapore uses a light rattan I believe.  I was told that in the Fay case that the skin broke and there was blood, but it is unlikely there would be permanent scars.  I am sure there are any number of people who for the right price would show you just how painful it is.  In the Fay case it was not that successful considering his criminal career afterwards - something Lee Kwan-yew seems to think justifies caning Fay.  Singapore has a very low crime rate, but what causes that is impossible to know.  Lao Wai 09:49, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I read those crimes Fay committed were in the U.S. or elsewhere, and not in Singapore.  An interesting point that you said it Fay's caning would not cause permanent scars, since his defense claimed that his crime would not fit the punishment, since it WOULD cause permanent physical and emotional scars. (Well we don't know about permanent emotional part, but I bet he certainly did not return to Singapore).  I was also interested in the method of their caning.  Specifically, I heard that if the criminal receiving the caning passes out, they revive them with smelling salts, before resuming the caning.  I thought I would find that information in the wiki, but that might be a myth. Also they bring in a caning expert with 'xx' amount of skill.  All interesting stuff.  68.102.37.191 22:08, 20 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know where you read that but it is not true. It is rare that countries allow prosecution of someone for 'crimes' commited in other countries. Read the Michael P. Fay article for more information... Nil Einne 12:47, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There really isnt much to respond to the above comment when it is devoid of viable sources. And what is deemed "interesting" is only relative to how ignorant the reader is. Singapore's methods of caning is not that different from most contemporary methods, if not slightly more humane.--Huaiwei 13:10, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comments by IP

message: What is the rationale for schools making its boys change into PE attire before caning?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.12.228 (talk) 09:51, 21 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: School Caning

message: This article does not give enough detail in what actually happens. For a start, the article does not exactly say what part of the body is caned. It is implied to be the buttocks, but could easily be the legs. How long is the cane? How thick and wide? How far does the cane guy stand from the guy being caned? Anybody know? --Commking 03:37, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: All these points have now been answered in the article. Ffaarrrreellll 10:14, 14 November 2007 (UTC)

text: It is indeed mandatory if they overstay by more than 90 days. I have clarified this in the text and added a link to the relevant legislation. -- Alarics (talk) 16:55, 7 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: How is it done?

message: maybe this story can be incorporated into the article somehow??
http://www.reuters.com/article/oddlyEnoughNews/idUSSIN4600620070717?feedType=RSS
:This case has been included in the article under "Notable cases". Alarics (talk) 08:57, 21 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: news story

message: I'm not sure if this is true, but a friend of mine who just visited Changi Prison told me that the prison officials told him that the strokes are not given in one session, especially if it's a heavy sentence. Can anyone verify this with some up-to-date sources? 116.15.187.53 (talk) 08:15, 12 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Separate sessions

message: 109.65.20.195 (talk) 19:10, 4 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  As an example to gender discrimination? 

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message: There is an entire segment titled "objections to caning", but not a single link to any source arguing in favor. This is rather biased. 98.223.23.29 (talk) 04:18, 21 August 2016 (UTC)
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