Talk:Gas holder

message: Why is there no reference to the gasholders that are used in current industry? The rising and falling gasholders are still used, not just the "modern" spheres.  12.183.205.106 (talk) 19:45, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Current Industry

message: I just saw the German page contains a lot more info and includes pictures, if someone wants to translate it? My German is not that good, sorry...
--Rnbc 23:49, 2005 Jan 1 (UTC)
:It's still better than the English article.—QuicksilverT @ 22:48, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: German article

message: The opening paragraph of this article states
:"A gasometer or gas-holder is a large container where natural gas or town gas is stored near normal pressure and temperature."
I would say there needs to be some clarification of 'Normal'.
::I've changed it to make it more precise. 'normal pressure and temp' -> 'atmospheric pressure and ambient temps'. --Squiddy | (squirt ink?) 08:48, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem with opening paragraph 

message: Is there anything to be said about how some gasometers have apparently been listed in the UK as being part of the country's industrial heritage? The article on St Pancras railway station states that gasometers that had to be moved because they were in the path of the Channel Tunnel Rail Link were re-erected nearby. 86.136.0.145 12:34, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Listed buildings

message: Didn't the IRA blow up a gasometer in Warrington?  The Wikipedia article there doesn't explicitly mention it, but says it was an attack on a "gasworks". Richard W.M. Jones 14:07, 8 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. They had previously attacked one of the two vast gas holders on the Greenwich Peninsula in SE London in 1978, reported elsewhere on the web as a '25-pump blaze'. This holder was the largest in the world (12.2 million cubic feet) when built in 1891 (reduced to 8.9 following damage by the Silvertown Explosion), and still the largest in England when attacked. Although in the back of beyond, this is right by the southern approach road to the Blackwall Tunnel, so a very spectacular target. Pterre 15:34, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[IRA]] attack? 

message: I don't think the diagram in the article is correct.  It is my impression that water is only used to seal the joints between sections and does not fill a major part of the interior.
--GrahamDavies 13:42, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is the diagram correct? 

message: The article name should be 'Gas Holders' and not 'Gasometer'.  Gasholder, or Gas Holder is the technical term.  They are in no way refered to as Gasometers by any offical body, (OFGEM, IGEM etc).
Mtaylor848, I totally agree. Was going to suggest that change myself in fact, and I'll support any effort to move it. I work on Gas holders and in all the safety reports, etc., they are "gas holders" or "gasholders". Gasometer is, in almost every respect, wrong. El Pollo Diablo (Talk) 10:55, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I Agree, so I moved it to Gas Holder. Pyrotec (talk) 18:37, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Webster's Dictionary lists "gasholder", and "gasometer", but not "gas holder".  The article is currently schizoid about "gas holder" and "gasholder".  It should be standardized as "gasholder" and moved to Gasholder, with redirects from Gasometer and Gas holder.—QuicksilverT @ 22:53, 12 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heading 

message: This section is so long that I am thinking of making it into a separate article. Please comment. Biscuittin (talk) 21:07, 26 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I assume the "Wiggins" is just one of several types of gas holder? If so, I would invoke "due weight" and cut it back considerably. Whether it needs its own article as well is a separate issue, and one I'm not qualified to take a view on, but to be honest it reads as if it was copied directly from commercial promotional material and is therefore of dubious encyclopedic value anyway.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.44.213.14 (talk) 23:44, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Why is it called "Wiggins"?  There are no references to this effect.  In the German WP article, I believe this type of gasholder is called a "disk gasholder" (Scheibengasbehälter), and that article states that it was developed by the German firm MAN and patented in 1913; the first example of this type was built at the Augsburg Gasworks in Germany in 1915.  There is no mention of "Wiggins" anywhere in the entire article.  There is but a single instance of "MAN gasholder" in the English article, in the caption of one of the images, but no explanation of what the term means.  I'm betting that the MAN gasholder and Wiggins gasholder are one and the same thing.  Is this another example of expropriation of German technology without credit to the inventors following one of the World Wars?—QuicksilverT @ 19:30, 16 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dry Seal "Wiggins" Type Gasholder 

message: Hey there, I'm in the process of cleaning up a few references to a couple of these in NYC, specifically, there's a set of rising/falling tanks, and a set of "fixed" tanks in NYC that are often confused with each other.  My question is: how does one refer to the "fixed" tanks?  They're still holders.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gushi (talk • contribs) 00:10, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Famous tanks in NYC 

message: I wonder ... maybe the inventor had a point? Even if not a very good one.
Thought one: The structure itself acts as a "meter" displaying how much gas is currently stored within, if you put marks on the side corresponding to the internal volume at that extension (and so, at a standard pressure and with allowance for ambient temperature, the actual mass), much like the internal workings of a regular gauge but without the needle part attached.
Thought two: It allows easier metering of the gas supply, both in the measurement sense (my domestic gas meter only counts cubic metres, and takes no account of what pressure they're supplied at), and in the supply sense (metering it out, at a relatively even pressure).
How likely does this one seem? :) 193.63.174.211 (talk) 10:37, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name origin 

message: I just read<B>digboston</B> newspaper, Vol. 16, Issue 43, Oct. 22 - 29, 2014 that the gas holder owned by National Grid in the Dorchester section of Boston, MA is the largest copyrighted work in the world. The design, by former nun Corita Kent, is four differently colored bands (red, blue, green, and brown) with ragged-looking ends on a white background, giving the appearance of having been applied by a gigantic brush. It's a local landmark mentioned in radio traffic reports on the often congested nearby Southeast Expressway, I-93.<BR><B>☺</B> Dick Kimball (talk) 15:44, 22 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  World's Largest Copyrighted Work 

message: ...in this BBC News article published today.  Hassocks5489 (Floreat Hova!) 08:57, 29 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lots of useful info on UK gas holders... 

message: Is there a consensus on whether it is a gas holder or gasholder? --ClemRutter (talk) 19:49, 20 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: What ever was first the WP:ENGVAR is ought to determine it, because it is likely that this is similar to many other words where the Americans tend to concatenate them while the British do not. See for example MOS:COMPASS. -- PBS (talk) 17:43, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: We should stick with two words, per the title, but note that some places use "gasholder" as one word as part of their name, and one word is also used in some newspaper article we've referenced - those shouldn't be changed. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 17:52, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy editing? 

message: So when Oberhausen is the tallest in Europa - which one is the tallest altogether? --2.247.240.193 (talk) 13:10, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  tallest in the world?