Talk:Lunar water

message: For duration of last 35~40 years man was thinking water or hydroxil molecules found in moon rocks are any mistake or mixing of air vapor .recently or works show that solar wind can be able to produce water , ammonia and methane (A suitable solution for finding transposition phase of exchanging solar wind ions to. chemical molecules ,H2O,NH3,CH4. AkbarMohammadzade. ), west scientists do agree with our theory and write in their articles and some news as:(Some researchers believe there's water on the Moon in reach of human explorers.)-->[nasa web site ]
now we are researching about :either the solar wind ions combine with their kinetic energy coming from its blowing speed ,or its containing  ions and  atoms do tunneling for jump to combination step .
we will publish it as soon as we got results.--Akbarmohammadzade (talk) 03:57, 10 September 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: presence of water on moon

message: Not sure how to do citations and such, but as of 21/06/12 solid water has been confirmed on the moons surface. http://www.latimes.com/news/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-moon-ice-20120621,0,4235750.story  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.150.180.195 (talk) 04:52, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update 

message: I suggest we rename this article "Water on the moon", or "Lunar water", or some other title that uses the word "water" rather than specifically "ice". This would be a better reflection of its contents now. Any thoughts? 86.133.245.56 (talk) 23:26, 6 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, as it refers to the water element whether bound or in free form,  not to the state of it as liquid, ice or vapor. BatteryIncluded (talk) 17:26, 9 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I third the idea Water on the moon is probably much easier to identify.Moonus111 (talk) 03:24, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rename 

message: I assume that the claim in the opening sentence that lunar ice is "known to exist" refers to the recent Chandrayaan findings. I'm no expert, but my understanding is that what Chandrayaan found is not what most people would call "ice". My understanding is that it found either H2O or OH chemically bound to moon rocks -- nothing like "ice" at all, in fact.
Later on, the article also has a section headed "Confirmation of lunar ice" which seems equally dubious to me. 
I think the article needs a full review of the choice and use of words "water" and "ice". Notwithstanding the media headlines, is it even reasonable to say that Chandrayaan discovered "water" on the moon? 86.152.242.223 (talk) 00:16, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious 

message: A Moonwater article has appeared, I believe this should redirect to this much fuller article.  What do others think? Graeme Bartlett (talk) 02:17, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. My bad for not thinking to check for "Lunar water", I'll redirect.   — Aldaron • T/C   03:55, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Moonwater

message: I was extremely doubtful that they would ever get evidence that said it was there. Now I'm changing sides.
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/11029718
The introduction lays a larger portion on the doubt, newer evidence supersedes most of the citations in the intro.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Moonus111 (talk • contribs) 03:37, 11 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Intro needs a rewrite - no longer factual 

message: The section "Lunar water discovery" has been plonked in as a subsection of the lead section (itself a nonstandard practice) without any regard for the information already present in the article or the pre-existing article organisation. This information needs to be properly integrated with the rest of the article. 86.146.108.247 (talk) 04:10, 7 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article organisation 

message: I am still uncertain whether the prominence and emphasis of the "Lunar water discovery" section dedicated to the M3 results is justified. Important though they no doubt are, my impression was that these results were just one more piece of evidence in a long history of observation and debate, and not the kind of revelatory and suddenly definitive "discovery" that the section heading suggests. Does anyone else have any view on this? I'm wondering if that section should be merged into "History of observations". 86.128.4.93 (talk) 14:39, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you.  As far as I am concerned, please feel free to do the change. BatteryIncluded (talk) 16:10, 10 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emphasis/prominence 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Why there is a page called Lunar water?
It is not useless because there are interesting things but i think that tis page must be only a section(a great section) of the page moon.
Do you agree?
--Matmaru (talk) 12:59, 14 March 2017 (UTC)
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message: Hi, I just edited the second sentence on the article to remove the reference to "liquid" water, and specify that the referenced discovery was specific to the "sunlit" surface as the previous statement was factually incorrect and not specific enough. Liquid water cannot exist on the surface of the moon, and we already knew that ice existed on the shadowed surface of the moon. However, I believe that this opening statement needs further work to clarify that the water at the surface is NOT liquid water, since regular readers might not understand that "water" does not mean "liquid water". I see in the history that this opening paragraph used to specifically state that liquid water cannot persist at the surface of the moon, and I feel that it should be changed back to that form to remove confusion for the regular reader. However, I'm unfamiliar with the history of why this may have been changed, so I didn't make further edits to avoid making unnecessary or redundant changes. Help from others more familiar with the history of the article is needed.Mddesan (talk) 16:19, 27 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed reference to "Liquid" water. 

message: Hi everyone, I was just taking this out at Colonization of the Moon because it is too far off from the main issue, but maybe it is of use here:
On September 24, 2009, Science magazine reported that the Moon Mineralogy Mapper (M3) on the Indian Space Research Organization's (ISRO) Chandrayaan-1 had detected water on the Moon.  M3 detected absorption features near  on the surface of the Moon. For silicate bodies, such features are typically attributed to hydroxyl- and/or water-bearing materials. On the Moon, the feature is seen as a widely distributed absorption that appears strongest at cooler high latitudes and at several fresh feldspathic craters. The general lack of correlation of this feature in sunlit M3 data with neutron spectrometer H abundance data suggests that the formation and retention of OH and H2O is an ongoing surficial process. OH/H2O production processes may feed polar cold traps and make the lunar regolith a candidate source of volatiles for human exploration.
The Moon Mineralogy Mapper (M3), an imaging spectrometer, was one of the 11 instruments on board Chandrayaan-1, whose mission came to a premature end on 29 August 2009. 101004 isro.org M3 was aimed at providing the first mineral map of the entire lunar surface.
Lunar scientists had discussed the possibility of water repositories for decades. They are now increasingly "confident that the decades-long debate is over" a report says. "The Moon, in fact, has water in all sorts of places; not just locked up in minerals, but scattered throughout the broken-up surface, and, potentially, in blocks or sheets of ice at depth." The results from the Chandrayaan mission are also "offering a wide array of watery signals."
On November 13, 2009, NASA announced that the LCROSS mission had discovered large quantities of water ice on the Moon around the LCROSS impact site at Cabeus. Robert Zubrin, president of the Mars Society, relativized the term 'large': "The 30 m crater ejected by the probe contained 10 million kilograms of regolith. Within this ejecta, an estimated 100 kg of water was detected. That represents a proportion of ten parts per million, which is a lower water concentration than that found in the soil of the driest deserts of the Earth. In contrast, we have found continent sized regions on Mars, which are 600,000 parts per million, or 60% water by weight." Although the Moon is very dry on the whole, the spot where the LCROSS impactor hit was chosen for a high concentration of water ice. Dr. Zubrin's computations are not a sound basis for estimating the percentage of water in the regolith at that site. Researchers with expertise in that area estimated that the regolith at the impact site contained 5.6 ± 2.9% water ice, and also noted the presence of other volatile substances.  Hydrocarbons, material containing sulfur, carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, methane and ammonia were present.PSRD CosmoSparks Report--An Icy Treat
In March 2010, ISRO reported that the findings of its mini-SAR radar aboard Chandrayaan-1 were consistent with ice deposits at the Moon's north pole. It is estimated there is at least 600 million tons of ice at the north pole in sheets of relatively pure ice at least a couple of meters thick.Bill Keeter: NASA Radar Finds Ice Deposits at Moon's North Pole – Additional evidence of water activity on moon. National Aeronautics and Space Administration, March 2, 2010, retrieved June 27, 2011
In March 2014, researchers who had previously published reports on possible abundance of water on the Moon, reported new findings that refined their predictions substantially lower.BBC News Paul Rincon: Doubt cast on evidence for wet Moon
In 2018, it was announced that M3 infrared data from Chandrayaan-1 had been re-analyzed to confirm the existence of water across wide expanses of the Moon's polar regions.
The Chinese lander Chang'e 4 and its rover Yutu 2 are on the lunar surface on the far side of the Moon in the South Pole-Aitken Basin, analyzing the lunar surface to assist in the search for water.
In 2020, NASA's SOFIA observatory, a Boeing 747 equipped with a telescope, helped find molecular water on sunny surfaces of the Moon, after studying Clavius crater. Nsae Comp (talk) 16:07, 13 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Text move from [[Colonization of the Moon]] 

message: This page should probably make (brief) mention that Leonardo Da Vinci, in the Codex Leicester, proposes that the moon's entire surface was covered in water. — HTGS (talk) 05:22, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Da Vinci, and the entire surface of the Moon being water