Talk:The Rules

message: via OTRS, at Wikipedia:Neutral_point_of_view/Noticeboard/Archive_1#The_Rules – Zedla (talk) 00:10, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV alert

message: I can't seem to verify the purported quote by Maureen Corrigan (other wikis and one tangential reference in ).  It doesn't show up 
on NPR's website but I'm not certain they archive transcripts of Fresh Air.   I've removed the quote and have inserted an admission by their part about their qualifications (Jet ref, Today show) which would seem to hold more weight than a purportedly sarcastic comment by reviewer Corrigan.   – Zedla (talk) 06:31, 8 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Corrigan quote 

message: The comments "Some women in these cultures might even consider following these rules tantamount to prostitution" need some kind of citation, especially a reference to which cultures are being referred to.  Also, there has to be some kind of positive response better represented.  After all, the book had a great deal of success for a good amount of time, so someone agreed with the ideas.Cactusjump (talk) 22:12, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations & Positive Criticism Necessary 

message: There were other sequels to the "Rules" series that are not referred to, namely "Rules for Online Dating" and some kind of Rules Journal that is supposed to accompany the first title. Cactusjump (talk) 22:14, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Sequels 

message: In May 2009, an editor removed this section citing spam. How can it be spam when it is the premises of the book. I have recovered them and put the section here so that it might be reworked by an interested editor at a later date. 
The Rules
* 01: Be a “Creature” Unlike Any Other
* 02: Don't Talk to a Man First (and Don't Ask Him to Dance)
* 03: Don't Stare at Men or Talk Too Much
* 04: Don't Meet Him Halfway or Go Dutch on a Date
* 05: Don't Call Him & Rarely Return His Calls
* 06: Always End Phone Calls and dates First
* 07: Don't Accept a Saturday Night Date after Wednesday
* 08: Fill Up Your Time before the Date
* 09: How to Act on Dates 1,2, & 3 End the date first especially if you like him.
* 10: How to Act on Dates 4 through Commitment Time
* 11: Always end the date first
* 12: Stop Dating Him if He Doesn't Buy You a Romantic Gift for Your Birthday or Valentine's Day
* 13: Don’t See Him More than Once or Twice a Week
* 14: No More than Casual Kissing on the First Date
* 15: Don't Rush into Sex & Other Rules for Intimacy
* 16: Don't Tell Him What to Do
* 17: Let Him Take the Lead
* 18: Don't Expect a Man to Change or Try to Change Him
* 19: Don’t Open Up Too Fast
* 20: Be Honest but Mysterious
* 21: Accentuate the Positive & Other Rules for Personal Ads
* 22: Don’t Live with a Man (or Leave Your Things in His Apartment)
* 23: Don't Date a Married Man
* 24: Slowly Involve Him in Your Family & Other Rules for Women with Children
* 25: Practice, Practice, Practice! (or, Getting Good at The Rules)
* 26: Even if You're Engaged or Married, You Still Need The Rules
* 27: Do The Rules, Even when Your Friends & Parents Think It's Nuts
* 28: Be Smart and Other Rules for Dating in High School
* 29: Take Care of Yourself and Other Rules for Dating in College
* 30: NEXT! & Other Rules for Dealing with Rejection
* 31: Don't Discuss The Rules with Your Therapist.
* 32: Don't Break The Rules!
* 33: Do The Rules and You’ll Live Happily Ever After!
* 34: Love Only Those Who Love You
* 35: Be Easy to Live With
I think that if this book and its mantras have become the standard by which women in the western world now approach relationships, then its is worth including and discussing. It's basic premise is to assume that there must be a minimum "standard" to any man/woman relationship - thus creating an unnatural model by which all interactions must be measured.
: Rules back in now, with links removed  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.155.81.33 (talk) 18:41, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: The actual rules

message: The article presently states 'Psychology lecturer and therapist Dr Meg John Barker claims that the emergence of seduction communities happened "almost as a direct response to this hard-to-get femininity"' She claims it, but offers no basis for the claim. This is the excerpt on page 77
: Almost as a direct response to this version of hard-to-get femininity was the emergence, in the years leading up to the new millennium, of "seduction communities" for heterosexual men.
Can we make it clear that she had no factual or referential basis for the claim? I'd be interested if she did (and there are of course precedents to the *Game*)... but she didn't offer any evidence. -Reagle (talk) 19:22, 28 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relationship to seduction community 

message: This book is the biggest piece of dung ever created.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.67.13.101 (talk) 20:12, 18 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  POD