Talk:Department of public safety

message: Is this supposed to be a specific government agency, or just a typical government department that might go by the name 'Department of Public Safety', or other name? Peter Grey 06:10, 20 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Which department?

message: The Canadian and US situations probably don't belong in the same article.  In Canada, Emergency Measures agencies do not deal with regular police/fire/ambualance emergency services, they deal with disaster reponse.  And there isn't a single agency in Canada that uses the name 'Department of Public Safety'. Peter Grey 23:39, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Canadian context 

message: I've removed Pittsburgh PA from the "List of cities with Departments of Public Safety with fully cross-trained personnel" list as their public safety department provides various types of support services to separate Police, Fire and EMS agencies.
See the Pittsburgh Public Safety website
Public Safety assists the Bureaus of Police, Fire, Emergency Medical Services, and Building Inspection in the delivery of their services by providing administrative, financial, and technical support for core management functions.
64.253.108.2 17:32, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, you're probably right that the number is slowly growing, but there are high-profile fiascos like Daytona Beach, which was probably the largest city to adopt and then get rid of a local DPS.  --Coolcaesar 05:05, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pittsburgh 

message: I've put a  template on the article because the article appears to be very badly US-centric.  Even the title is US-centric; the article itself says the equivalent in other countries may be called interior ministry.  The description of what a safety department does sounds to me to be pretty much what the British Home Office does.  If interior ministries are indeed equivalent they should be included whatever the article title, it is just an alternative name for the same thing.  On the other hand, if the intention is to limit the article to the US this should be made clear in the title like "US public safety department" or else disambiguate with a hatnote. SpinningSpark 16:06, 2 July 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Just noticed this. Strongly disagree.  Please review the article title policy and the disambiguation guideline. The article is describing a concept unique to the United States, a "department of public safety," a concept which is unique because of the unique nature of American law.  As a result of the Tenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, interior ministry functions are severely fragmented between federal, state, and local governments in the United States, resulting in what many textbooks call the most fragmented criminal justice system in the world.  (Search for "fragmentation united states police" on Google Books to see what I mean.) This point is well-known in political science and political philosophy as it illustrates a fundamental distinction between unitary and federal states. The various permutations of the DPS either as a "umbrella" or "cross-training" concept arise from this issue.  This article should not have been tagged or moved. --Coolcaesar (talk) 14:09, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, qualifying the name with "United States" in the title is ludicrous. That would be like qualifying the name "Silicon Valley" with "United States" or qualifying "David Cameron" with "United Kingdom." There is no need to disambiguate things that are already unique. --Coolcaesar (talk) 14:11, 24 August 2015 (UTC)

text: Also, I need to point out that User:Neutrality erred badly in changing the title to its current one. Under Wikipedia:Article titles, we go with the most commonly recognizable title. That would be "department of public safety" (lower case), not "public safety department," which almost no one uses except small hospitals and towns. --Coolcaesar (talk) 14:13, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Globalize 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: Moved   (t · c) buidhe 14:45, 14 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Department of Public Safety →  – Per WP:SENTENCECASE Epistulae ad Familiares (talk) 10:22, 28 June 2020 (UTC)

text: This is a contested technical request (permalink). Anthony Appleyard (talk) 13:50, 29 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 29 June 2020