Talk:Adamantium

message: Adamanteum (also Adamantium) is Steel. Don't have to look into mythology or comics for it, look in a Latin dictionary.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.216.125.207 (talk) 02:29, 11 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adamanteum, Adamantium - Latin 

message: As far as I know, Hercules never wielded any gold mace described as "adamant" or "adamantine" in classical sources.  Is this a Marvel creation?--Iainuki
it may be important to add something about adamantium being ferromagnetic.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.21.226.82 (talk) 14:53, 25 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adamantium, Greek mythology 

message: If I recall correctly, Milton said that the gates of Hell were made of Adamantium.
205.160.23.2 (talk) 16:06, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adamantium in Paradise Lost 

message: I remember part of a storyline that stated that Kitty Pride had difficulty phasing through adamantium. It caused her pain, nausia, and dizziness. But that's it. Only once. In one story where, by phasing through Sabertooth, she "discovered" that his bones possessed adamantium. Any other occurance that adamantium restricting/reducing phasing? 
AlGorup 16:23, 22 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phasing 

message: I was catching up on some old Wolverine issues (v3. #170 - #180) and saw in one story that Wolverine's skeleton provided resistance to posession from an evil, magical entity (it was the issue w/ Michael Two youngmen of Alpha Flight rescuing Sasquatch and Puck). Any other instance of adamantium providing additional resistance to magical posession?
AlGorup 14:56, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That could be due to Adamantium having iron in it, and iron often fracks up magic (in comics). Dr Archeville 19:25, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Resistance to posession 

message: Is there a known melting point of adimantium ? --Paul 18:01, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: None that I recall; from everything I've read, the only way to 'melt' it is to expose it to Anti-Metal. Dr Archeville 18:05, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: melting point?

message: I don't think that it's really acurate to label Uru being as durable as Adamantium.  There are some examples, all of which are canon, in which Uru has been cracked and even outright destroyed. For instance, in Thor #450, a macically enchanted Rock Troll named Uroc possessed a body made entirely of Uru.  His right hand was frozen in Liquid Nitrogen and was shattered after being hit with a single, ordinary bullet. Also, while I'm not exactly certain of the issue numbers, but I believe it was was somewhere between Thor(vol2) #14-25 Odin used his powers to repair damaged that Mjolnir had suffered in a storyline in which he battled a being named Enkrant. I've read when Adamantium was introduced, like back in the 1960's, Thor was able to barely dent a small cylinder of Adamantium after striking it with Mjolnir with all of his strength. Now, whether this has been retconned or not I'm not sure, since it happened roughly 40 years ago. However, as far as I know, Adamantium, at least True Adamantium, has never been broken, at least not within the mainstream Marvel Universe. The only, canon, instance I've seen in which Adamantium was destroyed in any way was during the whole Infinity Gauntlet storyline where Thanos used the Gauntlet's powers to practically turn Wolverine's Adamantium skeleton into a rubbery, sponge-like, substance. Adamantium is said to be able to withstand nuclear blasts without sustaining damage, and the instances I mentioned about Uru seem to show it capable of sustaining considerably less damage than Adamantium. Don't get me wrong, not trying to start any sort of debate or anything. However, in a nutshell, I've haven't read any Marvel publication stating Uru is as durable. I might be wrong, if I am let me know how so. Otherwise, the statement needs to come out. Odin's Beard 01:30, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Material As Durable As Adamantium 

message: Hmm this line bugs me "he manages to snap her neck" and becuase he is able to do so it says some people use that as a way to say adimantium is indeed breakable, well i think that this is no indication to the strength of the metal, becuase if the person was able to move their neck, then that meens that only the individual bones are coated or made of it. Not the joints, so is it possible that he snapped her neck at a joint?
It's similar to the debate going on about how the Hulk managed to rip Wolverine in half in the Ultimate Wolverine vs. Hulk mini-series. The problem is that Marvel hasn't explained anything about it. In the mainstream Marvel Universe, adamantium is indestructible to everything except the highest levels of cosmic power. Writers have taken great pains over the years to keep it that way. Some writers have even gone back and retconned incidents in which adamantium was destroyed in storylines that were originally written decades ago. That's how secondary adamantium came into play. Pure adamantium's durability in the mainstream Marvel Universe is like the gospel or something. Despite the fact that it's a seperate reality, some have assigned, or tried to assign in their own minds, Earth-616 canon. With the exception of some mini-series, one shots, and titles such as "What If?", the Ultimate Marvel Universe is the only alternate reality that have storylines taking place in it still published. Just because adamantium is virtually indestructible to all known forces in the Earth-616 reality doesn't mean that it's so in the UMU. It's a different universe so they can tinker with any aspect of it in any way that they want. When the Ultimate version of Longshot snapped Deathstrike's neck, it's certainly possible that the joint was damaged. And, as unpopular a belief as this might be to some, it's also possible that the metal itself was damaged. Problem is that we don't know if it was one, the other, or even both for that matter. Whatever the ultimate answer is, no pun intended, Marvel doesn't seem to be in any hurry to offer any sort of explanation.Odin's Beard 23:12, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  strength debate 

message: "WOLVERINE: ORIGINS" Issues 7 & 8 stated that when Logan ingested Carbonadium, the regenerative rate of his healing factor was three times slower than normal, and that it quickly reverted back to normal once the metal was removed from his body. Issue 15 reads "Carbonadium...? ...This stuff is radioactive! It eats you alive!"
Seems pretty direct to my inclusion in Carbonadium's paragraph for this article.74.244.63.126 02:47, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I made a slight edit to the entry. His healing factor wasn't negated, it was still working, just at a much slower rate as you said yourself.Odin's Beard 14:08, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Carbonadium 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Carcoil.jpg

message: In the MMORPG, Runescape, adamantium is a metal that player characters can mine, smelt, and forge into tools, weapons or armor. It isn't indestructible, and is as malleable as all the other metals in the game. Are we going to add it in the "Other Media" section, and are there other references to adamantium that have not been recored yet?
Rapidwhirl 19:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Other Appearances

message: Removed the citation concerning the Final Fantasy series, since the material is called adamant or occasionally adamantine but is never explicitly refered to as "adamantium" in that series. I believe it's important that we keep the list limited to works which specifically refer to the material as "adamantium", otherwise they should be included (if at all) on the adamant page.
Vorpal76 (talk) 10:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Appearance In Games

message: i added some language to indicate that the "other media" are in fact mostly non-marvel uses of the language. it would be great if there was a quote from a game developer that they were inspired by the marvel word. also cleaned up some language in summary paragraph. hope i didnt step on any toes. the whole "in universe" thing probably needs lots of work, but im new at it, so i wont go crazy on it. Mercurywoodrose (talk) 06:29, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  teeny tiny cleanup 

message: this page uses Dr. Myron McClain but the Captain America's shield page and the character's page uses MacLain. 
the marvel.com page on Adamantium aslo uses MacLain. im going to change to MacLain. any one who want to see it it is here 
http://www.marvel.com/universe/Adamantium Sleepneeded127 (talk) 07:01, 4 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  McClain  Vs .MacLain? 

message: Does anyone know the exact series and issue of Marvel Comics where the word Adamantium is first mentioned? (First in the sense of the real-world, publishing chronology.) My guess is either The Incredible Hulk #181 (Nov 1974) or Giant-Size X-Men #1 (May 1975), either of which may have contained the first backstory of Wolverine's origins. However, I have found a reference that says "It first appeared in Avengers #66 (July 1969) as part of Ultron's outer shell" although this may refer to Captain America's shield. Does anyone have access to these issues?
Assuming that the term adamantium first started as the fictional material in Marvel Comics, the information about its first publication should go in the lead section, before the section on History and properties of adamantium in the Marvel Universe.
HOWEVER, the Wikipedia article on Adamant says that both "Adamantite and adamantium (a metallic name derived from the Neo-Latin ending -ium) are also common variants [of adamant]." Adamant refers to any especially hard substance. If this is true then the word adamantium has a much more extensive history than Wolverine's claws before the 1960's. For example, I think I've found (via Google Books) an obscure reference to Adamantium and St. Augutine (!) in The Execution of Justice in England by Baron William Cecil Burghley. In this case, some mention should be made of adamantium as a term used in classical literature before we get to modern comic books.
Also, unless someone objects, I'm going to delete the reference to Forbidden Planet in the Other Media section. The word adamantine is frequently used in poetic descriptions of a material of ultimate hardness. You might as well include the Aeneid or Paradise Lost, which both mention adamantine.
--RoyGoldsmith (talk) 19:17, 30 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --RoyGoldsmith (talk) 15:06, 30 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: The term "fictional" has been getting removed a lot recently by anonymous users. It is important that the term stays there, just as in all other comics-related articles, to identify that adamantium is not a real element. Apparently, some people would not know otherwise after reading this article. Khaotika 22:32, 4 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok smart guy if it's "fictional" then please tell us what Wolverine's bones are REALLY made of...!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.150.21.209 (talk) 18:16, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh wow. Really? Grow up, bro, this isn't primary school (although it may be to you), and trolling isn't funny. We all know that Wolverine is a fictional character in a fictional universe, and that adamantium isn't real. Jeez. PS: Before you ask, I'm not mad. Bro. PPS: Indented your comment for you :) 203.97.127.101 (talk) 05:51, 16 November 2011 (UTC)

text: To answer your question, Adamantium was grafted onto Wolverine's skeleton, it did not replace it. Therefore, his bones are still made of bone. Keaven (talk) 00:44, 26 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fictional 

message: The mention of the keywords hell and demons as what adamantium seals off are consider in game spoilers and should not be referenced directly.  The community for the game uses the terms "Hidden Fun Stuff" as a pseudonym for hell and demons are classified as "Fun" i.e. any thing that results on death of the fortress.  Apparently the wiki devoted to the game that is maintained by the games creators and players doesn't constitute as a verifiable source as I keep trying to change those mentions to something that wouldn't spoil the game atmosphere, but somebody unfamiliar with the game is deeming the edit as non-constructive.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.189.151.95 (talk) 21:49, 14 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mention of Dwarf Fortress 

message: The article looks like it should belong in a Marvel Comics wiki rather than at Wikipedia -- or at the very least relegated to a separate "Adamantium in the Marvel Universe" page (or section).
I propose splitting off the Marvel-specific into a separate page, "Adamantium (Marvel Universe)", with an appropriate link at the top of this page, and mentioned again somewhere in the body, possibly in the "In media" section.
I also propose removing the lines that suggest that Marvel Comics is origin of term Adamantium (such as the line "Because adamantium is not a trademarked property, the name has been used by many other writers").
Hurkyl (talk) 05:45, 15 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with this sentiment, especially since the "First Appearance" entry says the first marvel appearance, but the article itself states the Forbidden Planet appearance, which predates that. 68.235.190.172 (talk) 01:28, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: For future readers: the term "adamantium" appeared first in Marvel Comics (Forbidden Planet uses "adamantine steel", not "adamantium", with "adamantine" already noted in this article as a separate term that was centuries old by the time it appeared in Forbidden Planet). Further, the term's later use outside Marvel Comics does not change the facts of its origin within Marvel Comics as already credited to the appropriate writer and artists in the article. Nor does any later use of the term elsewhere merit a separate article for the term's use in Marvel Comics, since that's where the term first appeared and there has not been any substantial drift in its meaning in other contexts. ComicsAreJustAllRight (talk) 20:31, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Too much emphasis on the Marvel Universe 

message: I haven't edited Wiki before, but should it be mentioned in the "in ohter media / television" section that Adamantium is mentioned on the House MD Season 7 episode "After Hours", where house compares the weight of a prostitute to a stack of amplifiers, and comments "this is heavier than you, unless of course those implants are made of adamantium"
PlausibleSarge (talk) 08:07, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Does that really count? It's more of a reference to fiction in the real world, rather than a 'real' part of a fictional universe, if you see what I mean. 203.97.127.101 (talk) 05:50, 16 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference on House 

message: Does the name have connection with the eponymously-named 80s new wave punk rocker from the UK??  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 109.150.225.86 (talk) 17:43, 11 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I've heard, that name is actually derived from the 1960's BBC character Adam Adamant, from the show of the same name. 68.235.190.172 (talk) 01:26, 1 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Adam Ant]] 

message: I feel there needs to be a definitive source referenced for the article's statement, "It is partially magnetic, as Magneto has manipulated it on multiple occasions." Magneto's manipulation of the metal is not, in an of itself, evidence of that metal's magnetic properties, as Magneto is able to manipulate both ferrous and nonferrous metal. Keaven (talk) 22:55, 24 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Magnetic Properties (ferromagnetic) 

message: The term "adamantium" does not appear in the movie Forbidden Planet. It first appears in the comic book issue Avengers, vol. 1, #66. As already mentioned within the article, there is a line in the movie Forbidden Planet that includes the term "adamantine steel". "Adamantine" is an adjective that predates both "adamantium" and Forbidden Planet by hundreds of years, which is, again, a fact already stated by the article in the section where it notes distinct but related terms that date from before the first appearance of the topic of the article. 
The belief that "adamantium" appears in Forbidden Planet can likely be traced to readers' misinterpretation of a statement by John Byrne on his Web site that the term "adamantium" was "borrowed" from that earlier movie. Byrne was not involved in the invention of the term "adamantium", but I'd note that he might well be correct in a loose sense regardless: "adamantium" might have been coined by its creators with the movie's line about "adamantine steel" in mind, although there is no evidence of it that I can find beyond Byrne's statement, and any statement to that effect on Wikipedia would need a reference beyond quoting Byrne (again, Byrne never claimed to have been involved in inventing the term, nor did he ever claim to have been present when it was coined). Still, Byrne did not say that "adamantium" as a term appeared in Forbidden Planet, but rather claimed that it was "borrowed", which could be charitably interpreted as described above; multiple editors have misconstrued this statement or believed other mistaken sources (or perhaps misheard the line while watching the movie) and have added erroneous information to the page. 
Because this error has appeared repeatedly in the article and even on this talk page, I thought it best to create an entry here to reference later. While "adamantium" as a term and visual portrayal may have been inspired by other, earlier concepts (and I doubt its creators would ever have denied it!), please, let's keep the credit for its specific creation accurate. ComicsAreJustAllRight (talk) 20:15, 22 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adamantium is NOT mentioned in the movie ''Forbidden Planet''

message: Looking through the edits, I've found that a lot of the information in this article was deleted in revision 776063043 as "cruft".
In particular, the section on "Carbonadium" was removed and Carbonadium still links back here with no replacement.
On the general subject, of cruft, there does not seem to be any discussion in the talk about such a large modification. I'm not an expert on style but from what I can see in a quick skim, most of the info is relevant. If left to me, I would simply re-instate all of the removed data, but I felt it would be in the more in the spirit of the wiki community to discuss the issue first.
If the set of changes are not to be reversed, I would suggest at least restoring "Carbonadium" along with an "Other versions" section as is common in comic book related articles.
Jaguar83 (talk) 02:14, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Take a look at the article history to see why editors revert such additions. ComicsAreJustAllRight (talk) 19:20, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

text: By way of further explanation: if "carbonadium" is not a notable term outside of a small subset of a particular brand of comic books & related media and their consumers, it may not need to be explained on Wikipedia at all, and I'm saying this as someone with my user name. Many concepts appear in comic books, but not all of them meet Wikipedia's criteria for notability. As that seems to apply here, a good move might be to delete the redirect page for "carbonadium" altogether. It's not as though a Google search for "carbonadium" won't turn up information  elsewhere as found in specialized sources not aimed at a general audience (which, again, doesn't mean the term's necessarily notable enough for inclusion on this site). ComicsAreJustAllRight (talk) 15:34, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible over-removal of information 

message: It appears there used to be an Other media section? I think it should be recreated.
Besides House (according to this talk page) it's also present in the Elder Scrolls series, specifically Arena, Daggerfall and Morrowind.
In those games it is apparently synonymous with Adamantine according to the following link, but I distinctly remember it being talked about as Adamantium in-game:
http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Adamantium
Interstates (talk) 22:24, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Examining the bloated, poorly sourced mess that "Other media" section became over the article's history should give you a good idea about why it doesn't exist anymore, specifically because trivia sections are outside WP standards. The name and general concept described by this article's topic have been cribbed, mentioned and alluded to so many times in so many media that such a section would bury the article in trivia, which is exactly what it threatened to do after it was added previously. This article exists for the same reason as any other article on a similar topic in Wikipedia, which is not to serve as a list of each and every time a fictional concept has appeared anywhere since its invention, but rather to provide a concise and cohesive summary of relevant information on the concept, its history, etc., which in this case is its history as relates to Marvel Comics comic books and their adaptations. If you feel strongly that Wikipedia should include a detailed exploration of instances where this particular concept has been lifted by other publishers and writers to serve their own ends, you might try creating a separate "Adamantium in other media" article, though I can't promise you other editors would deem such an article relevant enough for it to escape deletion, and if a sprawling list of trivial appearances gets merged back into this article, it's likely to disappear for the same reason the last one did. ComicsAreJustAllRight (talk) 04:01, 24 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adamantium in Elder Scrolls 

message: Adamantium, adamantine armors, weapons, etc. have been a staple of Dungeons and Dragons and other fantasy gaming systems (ex: Pathfinder) for many many years (since 1975). This overly Marvel-centric article needs to either be converted to a disambiguation, or have information added to cover all the other uses of the fictional metal in greater detail.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.15.20.23 (talk) 13:52, 4 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: First off: "adamantine" is the term you're describing from Dungeons & Dragons, not "adamantium". "Adamantine" is not the subject of this page. Second, there's a general consensus of "No, thanks" to a massive trivia section listing every single mention of the article's topic in other media. See the rest of the talk page. The number of places that have lifted this term is far, far too big to try to list them all in this article (trust me, people have tried). The result would be (and was) jumbled to the point of uselessness. This page is "Marvel-centric" because the topic is a concept from comic books published by Marvel Comics.  If you'd like to create an "Adamantium in other media" page, be my guest, though I can't guarantee you it will be considered relevant enough to survive. ComicsAreJustAllRight (talk) 15:47, 9 November 2019 (UTC)

text: Note, also, that there already is a disambiguation template on this article that does exactly what you're asking, as it links to the "Adamant" article, which in turn links out to "adamantine". ComicsAreJustAllRight (talk) 15:54, 9 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dungeons & Dragons and other fantasy role playing games. 

message: First appearance of adamantium steel was in the movie Forbidden Planet in the scene where Dr Morbius (played by Walter Pigeon) shows the captain (played by Leslie Neilson) the Krell complex and invites him to fire his blaster at the Krell doors made of Adamantium Steel, which he calls it in the scene. So, it would appear that Marvell Comics got the name of the metal from this movie....the genesis of all science fiction from that point forward, Star Wars, Star Trek, Aliens... They all borrowed from Forbidden Planet. The most visionary SF flick of all time. BluesboyRand (talk) 21:50, 20 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Appearance of Adamantium 

message: The term adamantium (or “anamantium’)metal claims to be a fictions metal first used by Marvel comics, however the term was first used in the 1956 movie “Forbidden Planet”. It was a component used construction of cities by the lost Krell civilization.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 97.92.2.121 (talk) 04:21, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Please read the talk page and the article, both of which already mention this. Meters (talk) 10:57, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: And early appearance again

message: The term is now included in the SF Dictionary, which would be a good source to add, and which includes some more example uses. Mike Christie (talk - contribs -  library) 14:20, 29 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  SF Dictionary source