Talk:Staryi Krym

message: Thanks for the name and the copyedit. I have put a redirect on Staryi Krym. If you feel that the article needs to be moved, do not forget to check for double redirects. The enciclopedias seems to use the form of Stary Crym, it is a kind of neutral, strict Russian transliteraion will be Stariy Krym. Thanks abakharev 08:01, 30 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Would there be any objection to moving this to Eski kırım?  Tomertalk 21:54, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ukrainian name 

message: *http://www.qurultay.org/linkshow.asp?AD=../links/eng/history/state/2_1.html
*http://www.iccrimea.org/monuments/monuments.html
*http://tatarworld.com/history.htm
*http://www2.let.uu.nl/Solis/anpt/ejos/pdf4/24Kancal.pdf
*http://www.go2crimea.com/en/index.php?p=31&s=10
*http://www.zum.de/whkmla/region/russia/crimeapre1478.html
*http://www.ccssu.crimea.ua/eng/crimea/sights/architec/temples/uzbekhan/index.html
*http://archnet.org/library/places/one-place.tcl?place_id=8092
I put these links here bcz they were what I came up with when I was planning to write Eski Kırım, of which I was planning to make a subsection called Solhat.  They contain, cumulatively, quite a bit of information, but leave a lot of stuff out as well...for starters, I can't even find a map indicating where this place is!  Tomertalk 23:56, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional info 

message: Turkic name in the 6th cent.? the claim is dubitable
Ghirlandajo 
:First Turks in Crimea were Kutigurs and Utrigurs, who came to the peninsula in the 5-th cenrury. And at the end of the 6-th century eastern Crimea was a part of the Turkic Kaganate for a period of approximately 30 years. So, in the 6-th cent. Crimean steppes were alreay inhabited by Turkic-speaking peoples.
:BUT! As far as I know, The city of Solkhat was founded only in the 13-th century, after the Mogol conquest.
:Don Alessandro 19:41, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Foundation Date 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The Names section has the statement, "Neither name is unattested prior to the 13th century ...".  This makes little sense. It must be "Neither name is attested prior to the 13th century " Tachypaidia (talk) 01:08, 15 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not necessarily, unless we can show that a source is wrong or misinterpreted by us. Just because the earliest attestation of the name is a 1338 monastic complex doesn’t mean the name wasn’t in use for the location earlier, for example. Either or even both of the theories could still be true. —Michael Z. 18:15, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the claim is that the city's name is derived from the name of the Armenian monastery built some 50 years later, specifically, because the monastery contains the word Խաչ = khach' = cross. Unless there is some source that the city or peninsula name derived from the Armenian word for "cross," citing this monastery as a source is fallacious. Tachypaidia (talk) 20:39, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Names