Talk:General Hospital/Archive 1

message: The "POV" that was removed (about fans being tired of the Carly/Sonny/Jason/Courtney airtime) is something that has been much-discussed among fans. The original wording may have been a little strong but I think it should have been rewritten, not removed outright. These characters, and the fan reaction to them, has been a major part of GH the past five or six years.
Most of the other pages for current soaps have a section which mentions which actors are arriving and which are leaving. Someone took it out of GH with no explanation, so I restored it. --JamesB3 03:13, 12 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV and cast 

message: Reese Marshall was born Charlotte Reese Roberts so I believe it should be mention in the cast maybe like this Charlotte Reese Roberts/ Reese Marshall or maybe (Charlotte) Reese Roberts Marshall or (Charlotte) Reese Marshall or Charlotte Reese Roberts aka Reese Marshall or Charlotte Reese Roberts Evans Marshall or something that says who she really is.--Shimonnyman 09:03, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charlotte Reese Roberts  

message: is it indeed known who is replacing Jennifer Bransford last I heard it was still secret. Also how can both people Laura Wright and Tamara Braun be going to replace her? Should the article be listing straight rumours as fact. Also how come in some places she is Carly Benson and others Carly Quatermaine Corinthos Alcazar. Also to be true was she really ever Carly Benson? Shouldnt she be listed as Caroline Benson AKA Carly Roberts Quartermaine Corinthos Alcazar? Just little technical obervations/should we jump the gun questions --Shimonnyman 07:09, 14 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've said it before -- and I'll say it again... a cast member should remain in the "cast list" until they don't appear anymore.  Putting them in a seperate section is not precise -- it makes it appear as though they aren't members of the cast anymore. Boisemedia 01:21, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not denying that, I quite agree my question is more why are we listing the other people (especialy without conformation) and why is she listed as Carly Benson? and notCaroline Benson AKA Carly Roberts Quartermaine Corinthos Alcazar no matter who we credit as the actress, who right now is Jennifer Bransford until otherwise shown in the seiries... --Shimonnyman 02:29, 15 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caroline Benson/Carly Roberts ..... Alcazar 

message: Is this section even appropriate as it is never gaurenteed for anything to happen until it is aired? ABC can suddenly renegotiate contracts at a level that will alter past storylines that havnt aired yet and changing what scenes they show or don't show at whims beyond our comprehension. Also in the case of Laura Wright they can always go nevermind we dont like you and cancel there contract with her before they even air a single eppisode and could theorecticly renegotiate with Jennifer Bransford. Although I highly doubt this would happen it is always possible. Of course it is more likley with actors they havnt replaced but it has happened before and it can happen again and because this information has not yet aired it is not yet true. And also is it encyclopediatic to put things in the future as definitive?--Shimonnyman 20:38, 16 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know how any of this is possible. They fired Bransford and it's very unlikely they would change their minds. If they did, then all we would have to do is change the page to reflect that. I haven't seen a lot of information put on here that turned out to be inaccurate. --JamesB3 02:41, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: All I'm saying is the future isnt definative. I'm quite sure they wont take Bransford back too cuz it was there decision however what about when its the actor if they really want them sometimes they wait till the very last minute before pleaing. Also whose to say it wont be. I'm sorry Laura (Wright) but things aint working before its even aired and so hey retroactivly cut her or maybe like Kari Wuhrer will resign inspite of initialy chosing not too.. just saying we don't know the future --Shimonnyman 08:33, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the future isn't definitive. Neither is Wikipedia. If something changes, then it can be edited again. Most of the time, over 97% of the time, when someone is hired or fired for a soap, that sticks for at least a few months. Maybe Laura will be fired after a month. Maybe she will be kidnapped by aliens. If she is, then we can say she's going. If we keep everything on hold because of what might happen, nothing would ever be updated. I can see what you're saying, I just think that if this comes up, we can simply edit the page again. We are documenting a current event, and currently, the casting changes are taking place. --JamesB3 11:05, 17 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  coming and going cast 

message: I see no need for a disambig page.  The US GH is much better known both in the US and in the UK. 
Juppiter 18:52, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Moved back. Jcuk, DO NOT move the page back without a discussion at Requested Moves. Mike H. That's hot 14:32, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move the Article Back 

message: I'm thinking that this article is getting a bit too long...well actually Wikipedia told me that it was now over 30k...so I was thinking that maybe the Title sequences could be put into its own article? what does everybody else think? Dippit 14:35, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We need to trim the 2005 section. We should not let recent history get the best of ourselves. It could be covered in one or two short paragraphs, not the long section there is right now. We don't need to know who came and who left when with exact dates. We should try and stick to describing how the characters left, and not "actors' final air dates." Mike H. That's hot 19:56, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

text: yes thats a good idea. I've also thought there was too much information on all the various storylines in 2005 (eg Carly's mental breakdown, the drugging storyline and really it should only have been mentioned that there was a train crash, not neccesarily all the extra details such as Alexis giving birth  etc etc), which would be better put into a seperate article focussing on the storylines of General Hospital...these details I think originally started off as previews and spoilers and some posters may have gotten a bit long winded (And I am including myself amongst them) when trying to change them as the spoilers became past storylines. And the paragraph on whether Alicia Leigh Willis is coming or going could be moved to the article on Alicia Leigh Willis.  Dippit 12:28, 11 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you want me to copy the entire 2005 section over here so we can figure out what needs to stay and go? Mike H. That's hot 06:25, 12 February 2006 (UTC)

text: For starters, two uses of "controversial heroine" can go. That tiny paragraph is just fine for the Emily/Connor thing. We don't need a REALLY big paragraph about Tamara Braun's departure. I'm debating whether or not we need any mention of it. We could just say "Carly (now being played by Jennifer Bransford)" and that would suffice just fine. We don't need to get crufty and go on and on about ratings falling and why she left; that's best left to Soap Digest. I'll continue with this later. Mike H. That's hot 21:59, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We now have a 2006 section...hmm I am starting to think that maybe we should have a seperate article for the history of GH like ATWT does. Dippit 14:46, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: We simply do not need all the information on 2006 that we have. We do not need separate articles so people can cruft those up, too. We were doing just fine and all we have to do is trim it down. I will be trimming it down this evening. Mike H. That's hot 00:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Oh yes you are probably right, its just that someone keeps on adding so much information about 2006 that if we combined them we'd have a really long section! I am totally stumped on what is the best way to go forward Dippit 02:44, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The 2005 and 2006 sections still need to be edited back to a level of detali comparable to the sections covering prior periods.  Every minor plot device/detail does not need to be covered.  Also, the entire plot history probably should be broken off into a separate article linked to the main one so that realistic length can be maintained; this is especially important for those of us stuck still accessing Wikpedia via dialup.  Rlquall 23:04, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Break up the article

message: 2005 would get off to a controversial start after one of the show's more controversial young heroines, Emily Quartermaine, was brutally raped by Connor Bishop in scenes that were quite graphic. Adding controversy to the storyline was the fact that Connor just happened to look exactly like Emily's husband Nikolas Cassadine. Connor was soon shot and killed by Emily.
In the spring of 2005, Emmy nominated actress Tamara Braun left the role of Carly Corinthos, a role she had garnered amazing praise for when she took over the role from Emmy Winner Sarah Brown. After Braun's exit the show began a storyline in which Carly's son, Michael (Dylan Cash), supposedly killed his own father, AJ Quartermaine (Billy Warlock). The image of a nine year old murderer may have contributed to a decline in ratings as well as Braun's exit from the series the show fell behind CBS daytime's As the World Turns and tying or barely beating the other less-hyped ABC soaps. The storyline then quieted down and ended, with the eventual reveal that it was Michael's therapist, Dr. Asher Thomas who was the real murderer. The show then ran on to show a comedic storyline involving Luke duping Tracy Quartermaine (Jane Elliot) into marriage.
In May 2005, Kristina Wagner was fired and replaced with former Another World star Sandra Ferguson. Maxie was also recast with former Days of our Lives star Kirsten Storms taking over for Robyn Richards. This raised conflict because of the revisit to a major storyline, "BJ's heart" with two new actresses trying to act like they were the old ones. The storyline ended in Maxie keeping BJ's heart and her sister Georgie (Lindze Letherman) recovering from her brain hemorrhage.
After Braun left the series, the role of Carly was recast with former One Life to Live star Jennifer Bransford. Despite Series star Maurice Benard wanting Bransford to stick around, the fans spoke louder than ever before and Bransford was released from her contract. Soon after, Guiding Light star Laura Wright took over the popular role of Carly Benson. Long-time archrival of Carly, Robin Scorpio (Kimberly McCullough), returned to town to help long time best friend of Carly, Jason Morgan (Steve Burton), regain his memory.
One storyline that did prove a definite hit with viewers during this rocky period was the October 2005 wedding of Lucky Spencer and Elizabeth Webber after an eight year long courtship. This was despite the fact that Lucky had had two recasts since Lucky and Liz first became popular. Jonathan Jackson had originally played the role of Lucky, but had exited the role in 1999. Jacob Young took over the part in 2000 and he in turn was succeeded in the role by Lucky's current portrayer, Greg Vaughan in 2003.
The fall of 2005 saw storylines that consisted of Carly's mental breakdown, which culminated in Carly being sent off to a psychiatric hospital for several months (A move that was done in order to allow viewers to adapt to Laura Wright taking over the part of Carly from Jennifer Bransford).
There was also the mystery of who was drugging college girls, such as Maxie and Brook Lynn Ashton (Adrianne Leon) and taking nude pictures of them. The stalker turned out to be Diego Alcazar (Ignacio Serricchio), Lorenzo Alcazar's (Ted King) long-lost son. Diego's motive was apparently his need to avenge the death of his cousin Sage (Katie Stuart). Diego was sent to prison.
Lucas Jones (Ben Hogestyn), son of long time veterans Bobbie and Tony Jones also made a comeback. This would prove to be a significant event in GH's history because Lucas soon revealed that he was gay, thus making him the first significant homosexual character on the programme. Whilst there had been gay characters on the show before such as schoolteacher Mr Murty and wedding co-ordinator Elton, they had merely been minor characters). Lucas was at first reluctant to come out, but was eventually forced to come out after he was the victim of a hate crime.
Courtney Matthews (Alicia Leigh Willis) discovered that she is pregnant with her estranged husband Jasper Jacks' (Ingo Rademacher) child, despite being in love with Nikolas Cassadine (Tyler Christopher). The storyline remains unresolved as there have been hints that the child may still be Nikolas'.
November 2005 saw a major disaster storyline involving a train collision and major real life drama. This storyline involved much of the canvas and was GH's sole focus for several weeks during the important sweeps period. During this storyline, Alexis Davis and father Ric Lansing gave birth to their baby in an antique train car via a c-section performed by Robin Scorpio and Emily Cassadine, Lucky Spencer survived a near fatal hit by a sharp metal impaling him, and the new Carly was introduced and then fought villain Manny Ruiz and escaped the crash. Reese Marshall (Kari Wuhrer) was the only major character to die in this storyline. Wuhrer, a relative newcomer to the show having only joined in February 2005, was let go due to lacking storyline between series stars Maurice Benard and Rick Hearst. Kari Wuhrer later decided to sue, claiming that her pregnancy was the cause of her dismissal.
Alicia Leigh Willis who announced on her official website on October 29 that she would be leaving the show and her character of Courtney Matthews at the end of 2005. Her final tapedate was supposed to be December 20 and her final airdate was suspected to be around January 20. Months went by, and many different actresses were suspected to have snagged the role. Then, something very surprising just recently happened, it was announced that Willis would be staying on GH after all. And once again, Willis is still leaving the soap and Courtney will be killed off.
Rick Springfield, who had played Dr Noah Drake during the 1980s, was recently tapped to reprise his role for four episodes in December 2005. His brief stint proved quite popular with fans of the show and was extended for a longer run. It appears that his successful return, combined with the successful return of Kimberly McCullough as Robin Scorpio have inspired GH producers to revisit the past as shortly afterwards, it was announced that Tristan Rogers (Robert Scorpio) would return for a six week run.
Dippit 09:59, 13 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 2005 section

message: It seems to be a rather large one. 68.239.78.81 19:45, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: And this is a stub?

message: Just so you know, Thanks dippit.
allie_collegegirl21 17:45, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: I have added a 2005 section

message: Is GH a For-profit hospital?--Attitude2000 03:05, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: good question...I don't think it has ever been established whether GH is for profit or non profit or whatever Dippit 11:49, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The purpose of General Hospital 

message: I think this needs a criticisms or controversy section (like the tendency to fire pregnant actresses  I don't know anything about General Hospital so I would not make a good writer of that section, but it needs to be added.TrevorLSciAct 22:49, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Crticisms need to be integrated into the general text rather than broken out into a separate subsection per the Wikipedia Manual of Style.  Rlquall 23:01, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Criticisms 

message: I have overhauled this article and rewritten the 2005 and 2006 sections to make them shorter since history pages for General Hospital are currently being written. Please tell me what you think :) Dippit 09:08, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overhaul 

message: Why did that person delete the History Of General Hospital? It's about past story developments & belongs on the GH page. Bring it back.
:I don't know why the links to the pages were deleted, but I put a link to the page. Dippit 02:26, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  History Of General Hospital?? 

message: Just noticed that the UK soaps (Coronation Street, EastEnders) etc all have portals. Maybe one can be made for General Hospital (and for the other soaps. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dippit (talk • contribs) 07:20, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portal 

message: Whether or not they've been confirmed by the net work, what he's been called by his grandmother and by some of the adults count? I mean, I've been hearing called Damian for  quite some time now. --Yllianos 16:46, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The name Damian/Damien/Damon/etc. has been used on-screen in four episodes (three in December, one in January), but there needs to be consistency within the page. The entries are typically that which are confirmed by the show's credits or (on occasion) legal documentation. On at least one occasion, Damon was clearly heard. Since ABC has (so far) refused to credit the character with a first name, it's going to be a guess at best. D'Amico 12:15, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spinelli's On Screen Name  

message: I am putting together a page on the couples on the lists but wish for help and any history or links to backstory about a couple!!!
EMAIL ME AT:
aharri29@dtcc.edu 
allie_collegegirl21 17:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Supercouples/Couples Pages

message: If you've reviewed the sections and want more couples than list them here first please...
allie_collegegirl21 17:52, 27 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Adding Couples

message: I have delteted the following articles, Lucky Spencer and Elizabeth Webber, Dillon and Georgie, Jason and Sam, Spinelli and Lulu, Jax and Brenda and Sonny and Brenda due to them all being copyright violations. I also removed most of the Sonny and Carly Corinthos page for the same reason. The others look OK but I would ask that the regular editors of these articles check for other copyright problems. Thanks. CambridgeBayWeather (Talk) 11:08, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Couples sections

message: When I read the section about what currently going on in the program, it seems like some of the stuff is repeated unnecessarly. Since I don't usually edit this article, I just wanted to point it out. The section I'm referring to is about the hostage situation at the hotel.
By the way, I'm in Korea and watching on AFN. The show where Alan Quarterman dies hasn't aired yet, so I was shocked to find that out before hand. Davidpdx 06:45, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Current Plot Section

message: This talk page was really long & things were asked and answered because people wouldn't read down the page. Summaries are written so everyone can find their information. I just wanted it archived so info'd be easier to get to.
allie_collegegirl21 17:56, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Why I archived this page...

message: Please if you could write one page for a couple it would help make the section worthwhile. With all these pages unusable it isn't worth it and I am so busy with school right now.
allie_collegegirl21 18:06, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  I need help with the couple pages

message: I put in a 2005 section since Dippit wrote is so well. It could be chopped down some into less text but having a 'year in review' is on alot of pages. 
allie_collegegirl21 18:09, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New  to page -  2005 section!!! 

message: please make sure you put a:
Category:General Hospital characters
with the " " 
around it at the bottom of all character, couple and guest star pages.
allie_collegegirl21 18:22, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: List of GH characters not complete

message: I noticed that someone changed James Craig's name to Jerry Jack's simply because of what happened on today's episode (Jax received a phone call from "Jerry" and it turned out to be Craig on the phone).  Until it is irrefutable, I don't think it should be assumed that Craig is really Jerry.
: He IS Jerry. http://soaptalkscoops.proboards56.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=gh&thread=1177510236   "Guza says "that the thing that has to be explained is buried in the past. God knows he was a troublemaker. God knows he was unpredictable. But he never seemed quite as heinous as Craig was. The thing that will be explained in time is what turned Jerry Jacks. You will hear why his appearance changed. We will deal with that in story and you will know why."" DJ-Siren 00:06, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The show is always the final source. The show has confirmed that Sebastian Roché is currently under contract as Jerry Jacks. James Craig was a pseudonym, but he is now officially Jerry Jacks. (This was confirmed by ABC on-air on April 27 in the credits.) D'Amico 02:27, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unconfirmed information \ Jerry Jacks

message: Someone has been posting that Lynn Herring is returning to GH in May.  I have searched the internet and have found no other information to substantiate this.  Other sources have said this is only a rumor. MysticBlue 06:09, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  The only information that should go into a Wikipedia article, is that which can be linked to a source, per WP:V. --Elonka 05:51, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Lynn Herring's Rumored Return

message: I think that things are starting to get out-of-hand with the character relationships. I'm seeing lists showing up that are covering tenuous relationships like "adoptive paternal half-cousin", on characters that aren't even in the show anymore!  I think we need to come up with guidelines that specify that only notable relationships should be included. My recommendation is that we define this as:  Immediate family, romantic history, plus relationships to individuals who are or have been part of a key storyline involving that character. --Elonka 21:42, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Too many relationships

message: I'd like to see about improving this article, and maybe getting it up to Good article status.  So I thought I'd start this section about what needs to be done to improve it.  Off the top of my head:
* It needs better referencing.  There is way too much information in this article that is coming from personal knowledge, and this type of situation is leading to edit wars.  I believe that if we get stricter about requiring solid sources, the edit wars will decrease.
* Too many lists.  The information is useful, but an article is more than just multiple lists of information.  I recommend that the lists be moved out to separate "List" articles, and that we just keep a brief overview of the information here, with a link to the list.
* Inappropriate sections.  The "Couples" and "Comings and goings" sections seem to be magnets for original research and edit wars.  I recommend getting rid of them entirely.  If a couple is notable, they can be covered in the character lists and storyline sections.
For examples of what good soap opera articles can look like, see EastEnders and Coronation Street.  I'd like to see that we could get at least one American soap opera article up to the same standard.  It would take some work to get there, but I think it would be worth the effort, especially if we could actually get the article about the Greatest Soap Opera of All Time, up to Featured status and onto the Wikipedia mainpage.  :)  Anybody interested in giving it a try?  If so, please sign on below,  and also free to make other suggestions about how this article could be improved. --Elonka 04:45, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Judging from those 2 pages, you would have to put it back to how it was when they had the different decades on the main page, then link in other pages for the Cast, Awards, Ratings etc. lists. Could be done rather easily, but would it be left that way is the question?DJ-Siren 02:10, 30 May 2007 (UTC)

text: Well done on the new page for the list of cast members, Elonka.  My only nitpick is you have "cast members" as one word when it should be two. LOL. ;-) MysticBlue 07:28, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fixed.  The list is now at List of General Hospital cast members, and I also added some text at the top to try and clarify the difference between "contract" and "recurring" status.  Please feel free to expand!  :) --Elonka 09:48, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

text:  This will be fun to keep, as I already re-split it once today. DJ-Siren 01:10, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, someone has put the list back on the main page again, and, as usual, they've put Kin Shriner and Annie Wersching back on the contract cast list.MysticBlue 05:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've requested some temporary semi-protection at WP:RPP, which would prevent anons from editing the page for awhile.  Assuming that the protection is granted, that should help us put a freeze on the anon edits, to give us time to reorganize things.  --Elonka 06:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You rock, Elonka.- ;-) MysticBlue 08:43, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Heh, thanks.  :)  Alright, the article is protected from edits by new or anon editors for one week.  Let's see how much cleanup we can get done in that time.  :) --Elonka 18:33, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Fixed.  I've also left a note on his talkpage.  And yes,  I know it's frustrating and feels a bit like "herding cats," but we can do it. :)  The thing to do is to just keep working on the article, revert as necessary, and talk as much as possible.  Talking is good here at the discussion page,  because it proves consensus.  And it's good to leave messages on users' talkpages, to help educate them on "the wiki-way."  With as many anon editors who participate here, it's actually my hope that if we can educate them on the right way to do things, we could have a sizable "wiki-army" to sweep through the soaps articles here.  We could definitely use the help!  But there'll probably be a lot of teaching between here and there.  :) --Elonka 00:53, 10 June 2007 (UTC)

text: I'm open to that name, if we can make an actual article about it, like with paragraphs of text.  But if all we're doing is moving the list there, then, well, it should be called a list. --Elonka 03:43, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  True, I wasn't completely thinking straight. But regardless, I think the less lists in the MAIN article, the better quality that article will be. Not only does it make it look better, but it leaves open room for more information in the sense of the article itself. DJ-Siren 20:38, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Effort should be made on taking care fo this, as well as the Awards section. --Lendorien 15:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article improvement

message: Per the above discussion, I'm recommending that we move everything in the "Cast" section, to a new article, List of General Hospital castmembers. We already have a List of General Hospital characters, but the new page will list in the same format as we have now (by actor name) instead of by character name. --Elonka 06:40, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well done on the new page for the list of cast members, Elonka.  My only nitpick is you have "cast members" as one word when it should be two. LOL. ;-) MysticBlue 07:28, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fixed.  The list is now at List of General Hospital cast members, and I also added some text at the top to try and clarify the difference between "contract" and "recurring" status.  Please feel free to expand!  :) --Elonka 09:48, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

text:  This will be fun to keep, as I already re-split it once today. DJ-Siren 01:10, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, someone has put the list back on the main page again, and, as usual, they've put Kin Shriner and Annie Wersching back on the contract cast list.MysticBlue 05:59, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've requested some temporary semi-protection at WP:RPP, which would prevent anons from editing the page for awhile.  Assuming that the protection is granted, that should help us put a freeze on the anon edits, to give us time to reorganize things.  --Elonka 06:22, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You rock, Elonka.- ;-) MysticBlue 08:43, 8 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Heh, thanks.  :)  Alright, the article is protected from edits by new or anon editors for one week.  Let's see how much cleanup we can get done in that time.  :) --Elonka 18:33, 8 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Fixed.  I've also left a note on his talkpage.  And yes,  I know it's frustrating and feels a bit like "herding cats," but we can do it. :)  The thing to do is to just keep working on the article, revert as necessary, and talk as much as possible.  Talking is good here at the discussion page,  because it proves consensus.  And it's good to leave messages on users' talkpages, to help educate them on "the wiki-way."  With as many anon editors who participate here, it's actually my hope that if we can educate them on the right way to do things, we could have a sizable "wiki-army" to sweep through the soaps articles here.  We could definitely use the help!  But there'll probably be a lot of teaching between here and there.  :) --Elonka 00:53, 10 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: List of General Hospital cast members

message: If you were to split these out, you'll notice like the cast list at first, they'll end up back in, however I believe it would drastically improve the overall look of the article. Lists get annoying to navigate through like this. I would call the Producers and Writers page "General Hospital Production Teams" or something rather than "List of General Hospital producers" however. DJ-Siren 00:22, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm open to that name, if we can make an actual article about it, like with paragraphs of text.  But if all we're doing is moving the list there, then, well, it should be called a list. --Elonka 03:43, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  True, I wasn't completely thinking straight. But regardless, I think the less lists in the MAIN article, the better quality that article will be. Not only does it make it look better, but it leaves open room for more information in the sense of the article itself. DJ-Siren 20:38, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Effort should be made on taking care fo this, as well as the Awards section. --Lendorien 15:20, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Production and Awards Sections

message: This person  has been starting character pages (and adding to current ones) with inaccurate information and using questionable links as sources.  I've done some cleaning up here and there, but I'm sure there's a lot more to be done.  I've noticed on their talk page that they've been flagged several times, too. MysticBlue 10:27, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Inaccurate Information

message: Rumors are not fact until they are confirmed by GH and/or ABC.  More often than not, they are created from someone's active imagination or wishful thinking.  For instance, Tom Selleck joining the cast as Jeff Webber? The only place I could find this information is a little known soap forum which is hardly a reliable source. MysticBlue (talk) 06:00, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rumors are not fact

message: Tried to put in http://www.soapcentral.com/gh/news/2007/0521-clifton.php as a citation for Clifton leaving sometime this summer, and it screwed everything up, dunno what I did wrong. DJ-Siren 01:25, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks good to me...  Did you figure out how to fix it? --Elonka 02:56, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I was tagging it wrong, I just coppied the tag someone used for Annie Wersching (sp?) and replaced the things appropriately. I had tried to put the tag in WAY wrong. DJ-Siren 03:10, 31 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Accidental removal when editing 

message: Does anyone know where all the detailed ratings information came from?  It's a big section of the article, but doesn't seem to have any references.  I recommend that we delete it all, and just link to whatever site is maintaining that info. --Elonka 02:58, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ratings

message: Not everyone and their dog are considered a notable couple. I recently took out yet another "supercouple" list which included of course the current ones. I think that MOST would be in agreement that the major ones (Luke/Laura, Alan/Monica, Frisco/Felicia) are the only ones really needing to be listed. And the "supercouple" times ended with the first Lucky/Liz situation (when Jackson was still Lucky). Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see a point in listing EVERY couple ever on GH as a "notable couple". —Preceding unsigned comment added by DJ-Siren (talk • contribs) 04:21, June 15, 2007DJ-Siren 05:49, 18 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  I think we need to get very strict about sources here.  If anyone wants to add a couple to the list, they need to also add a link to a source that affirms that couple's notability.  If there's no source, then the information should be deleted on the spot, per WP:V. --Elonka 16:57, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Alan and Monica Quartermaine's link page in wikipedia, is an exact copy of the General Hospital main page in wikipedia. Just bringing it to attention. DJ-Siren 20:45, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually, it's just a redirect from that name to here.  If you look right under the article title, in small print, it'll say where it's redirected from. --Elonka 21:31, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Couples 

message: Who IS this person that's inventing all these characters that have never existed on GH? So far, I've found Lindsay Maria Spencer and Robert Justin Scorpio.  Not only is it vandalism, it's just downright sad.  Does this person not have anything better to do? MysticBlue 22:37, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: is the culprit, and has also been uploading a lot of pictures and trying to replace them on top of existing fair use shots.  Their talkpage is filling up with warnings, and if they continue, they'll be blocked for vandalism.  In some ways they seem like a new editor, but they also seem to have way too much familiarity with Wikipedia systems...  New editors wouldn't usually be savvy enough to update a template and multiple "links here" pages all at once.  I think we've got a bonafide soap troll.  --Elonka 00:25, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, yay, I just love trolls. MysticBlue 09:30, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Looks like the damage is a bit more extensive than I'd thought -- they also apparently were adding information as an anon.  I could use help from people scanning all the contribs of , to help clean up the damage.  And if you spot any other accounts that were used, let's add them here to keep a central repository. --Elonka 22:53, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nonexistent characters 

message: I see the problems that this page has with the recurring characters list, so I want to pose this question on the talk page instead of changing it without knowing for sure:  Are the people currently on GH:Night Shift still on Contract Status with GH?  Since Night Shift was to have a limited run, I'm certain it's possible. Walkerb4 00:54, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Contracts with GH and Contracts with Nightshift are 2 different things, as they are two completely different shows. Exmaple: Sonya Eddy is contracted to nightshift but NOT to GH. DJ-Siren 07:16, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you like Sonya Eddy, I have good news -- she is under contract now, as confirmed by the August 24, 2007, episode of the show. She was just recently upped to contract status (also refered to in the August 28, 2007, issue of SOD on page 15). It's too bad that she's finally upped to contract as Stan takes a powder again. If they recast, that's four Stans in what -- a year? D'Amico 11:46, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contract Characters Listing 

message: The following things need to be done for this page (add to list as needed):
#Strong effort needs to be made to provide proper sourcing for this page. It seems some effort was made in the past to do so, but much of it was stripped out over time. As it stands now, it is completely unsourced.
#Need to generate new page List of Executive Producers and Head Writers and move data to it as well as write a synopsis of that information for the main page.
#Need to generate new page List of General Hospital awards and move data to it as well as write a synopsis of that information for the main page.
#Perhaps add more info on the impact the show has had on television.
--Lendorien 15:43, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: THIS IS FUCKING DUMB! KEEP IT ON THE GH MAIN PAGE- IT'S RELATIVE TO GH  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.230.104.73 (talk) 03:07, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The use of language is not appreciated. Besides, what were you referring to? --Lendorien (talk) 20:41, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleanup - To Do 

message: I wish there was an article about the annual AIDS awareness charity benefit, which lasted from 1994 to 2001. NBK1122 (talk) 00:38, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Nurses Ball

message: Over the past few weeks, there has been concern over who the senior cast members are. Though Kimberly McCullough has a long history with GH, she has spent a total of six years away from the show (not counting brief reprisals in 2000 and 2004, and in 2001 on AMC). If McCullough were to be listed as a senior cast member, then we would have to add that of Denise Alexander, Kin Shriner, Rick Springfield, Finola Hughes, John J. York, Steve Burton, Maurice Benard, and John Ingle, all of whom have spent time away (excluding York). That is too many to list. This is an encyclopedia, and therefore, such information isn't necessary to begin with. Thank you! --OLTL2002 (talk) 05:38, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you not know how to count. McCullough has only been on for 17 years. 1985-1997, 1997-1999, and 2005-present. And this isn't One Life to Live. Bottom line, McCullough is NOT a senior cast member. --OLTL2002 (talk) 17:12, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, there are 365 days in a one year period, and seeing as how McCullough only did a FEW days in '00 and ONE day in '04, that doesn't count as a year. Also, her time on All My Children was TWO days, so we are looking at a total of approximately 6-10 days between 1999 and 2005. And her 1997-1999 stint was only for a year, not two. That is 17 years. Thank you. --OLTL2002 (talk) 19:09, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, but one day doesn't make a year. Heck, it doesn't even make a week. SHE IS NOT A SENIOR!!! Maybe in five years, yes. But now? Nope. --OLTL2002 (talk) 20:04, 14 September 2008 (UTC)

text: I agree with OLTL2002. When you leave a job and come back, you lose seniority. The only consistent senior cast member is Leslie Charleson. Also, just saying, "She is a senior cast member" is quite possibly the least helpful or effective argument you could possibly make. AniMate 21:05, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Senior Cast Members Part 2 

message: Uh, this entire section is unsourced POV/original research ... pretty much EVERY soap has brought back former cast members, and please show me an magazine article that singles out GH as "making a name for itself" doing this. Perhaps some these returns are notable in the context of a section written about the series' history as a whole, but the way it is now this is just an excuse for a fan to show off some trivia. — TAnthonyTalk 02:09, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've boldly removed the section here. Bits of it may be incorporated into a series history article later if necessary, but on its own it's just trivia assembled to make an unsourced and nonexistent point. — TAnthonyTalk 20:44, 8 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cast section

message: The article currently says two different people named Ron Cates have directed episodes. Can anybody confirm? It's difficult to believe an editor would make such a glaring mistake, as the names are listed in the same sentence. Ottre 12:28, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't quote me on this, but I believe I once saw in a magazine that there are two GH directors with that name, father and son. But I may be remembering wrong. I'll do a search on the web later on. --OLTL2002 (talk) 22:34, 24 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent edits to "Main crew members" section 

message: While I granted that technically, the GBOR did recognise General Hospital as being the longest-running series, it's a sad fact that either (a) GBOR is wrong or (b) the fact is being portrayed from a overly American point of view. It should actually state that the series is the longest running in the history of American television (assuming it's true) as there are other soaps that have been running for longer (e.g. Coronation Street, which started in 1960) Jamyskis Whisper, Contribs 05:07, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I couldn't find any mention of GH on Guinness's online World Records site but if they claim GH is the longest-running show--even longest-running US show, they're wrong.  As The World Turns debuted April 2, 1956.  But, the assertion on the GH wiki page (that GBOWR claims it's the second longest running show) is true, now that Guiding Light has been canceled.  True, as you say, from a US perspective.  Shall we just edit the word "American" or "US" in between "longest-running" and "soap opera"? Cellorelio (talk) 9:41, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless it's really well hidden, GBOR does not say anything about GH.  It only lists the longest running show in US history, which is Guiding Light.  Despite GL 's cancellation, it still holds the record, and will continue to do so until either ATWT surpasses it in 2013, or ATWT is canceled and GH surpasses it in 2020.  GH is indeed now the second-longest running CURRENTLY AIRING show in the U.S.  I added that specification to the intro.--207.180.154.114 (talk) 05:20, 24 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Longest-running soap opera in production 

message: I've got a question, why is the page on General Hospital on wikipedia is protected? This is supposed to be the Free Encyclopedia, not the un-free.Shkarter1985 (talk) 06:48, 22 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is GH page protected? 

message: Where can I find out information regarding theme songs the show has used since 2004? The section of the article outlining title sequences makes no mention of theme changes after the 1993-2004 section (the "Faces of the Heart" era)...
Blozier2006 (talk) 03:35, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Theme song info 

message: Isn't it about time that this section was massively edited? Right now this section contains a whopping 20,758 characters (give or take) with one citation announcing a new title sequence and another that points to Google Maps (hello original research). I doubt anyone could find a source for the majority of what is in there because no one thinks it's notable except fans. Unless someone can come up with a reliable source for this, I plan on making massive, massive edits to this section in the next week. AniMate 08:02, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think an outsider, who doesn't watch or know the soap should be making such "massive edits". And you need to give more than one single week to go in and edit such a section. It's a large section to dedicate time to, and I'd rather an actual fan of the series do it than an outside. That's my two-cents. MusicFreak7676 TALK! 17:37, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: What in the world makes you think I don't watch the show? Just because I don't treat Wikipedia as a forum to discuss the show, doesn't mean I'm a fan. Besides, anyone can edit any article. Rather than attack me you should bring some actual sources to the table, which I seriously doubt you can do. The information is trivial, unreferenced, overly detailed and needs to be deleted. AniMate 19:31, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: What makes you so sure that I couldn't find some actual sources? I'm not incompetent. And just because we may do a bit a foruming does make us the bad people you seem to be insinuating us to be. So don't tell me what I can and cannot do with a source. MusicFreak7676 TALK! 19:48, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think there are probably sources that support a much shorter version about the title sequence, but what is there right now really is too much. All of the detail in the section is really unsupportable. AniMate 20:04, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Then erase the whole section then if you believe that. I'm not saying it isn't over-worded. Never denied that fact. And there are sources about the shorter edit, hence why I put the source in myself. MusicFreak7676 TALK! 20:56, 7 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi guys! I'm currently at work so I can't really do anything about it at the moment. As soon as it's possible for me to do so, I'll take a look at it and contact you on your respective talk pages about my suggestions. The title sequence section is huge and cannot be analyzed in a just a span of a few minutes. Time has to be dedicated for such task. Don't know when exactly when this will be, but hopefully it will within the next few days. Take care. Farine (talk) 23:39, 7 March 2012 (UTC)

text: I agree with all of the ideas that you have made. I think we should go ahead with your edit plan! MusicFreak7676 TALK! 17:35, 8 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text:  Done. I was waiting if Soapfan2013 and Animate would share their views before making any change. But it's been three days since then so I've decided to go along with the changes. If Soapfan2013, Animate or any other editor feel that more should be removed, then feel free to do so. Likewise, if you think that I have removed more that I should have, you can refer to the next section on this talk page to restore the content; it has the original content of Title sequences section. Farine (talk) 04:59, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title sequence 

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
The result of the proposal was not consensus. That means this is somewhere between no consensus and not moved; either way, nothing is moving. --BDD (talk) 18:03, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
===Calvin Klien===
I have noticed a new original cast member here. I cannot locate this cast member on List of General Hospital Characters. Can someone please tell me who this character and actor is?  Thank-you!
Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 21:08, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: I have noticed a new original cast member here. I cannot locate this cast member on List of General Hospital Characters. Can someone please tell me who this character and actor is?  Thank-you!
Kiraroshi1976 (talk) 21:08, 6 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Calvin Klien