Talk:Popular monarchy

message: I removed the reference saying that Hellenic Republic comes from the former king's title.  Hellenic Republic simply means "Greek" republic, but is not anglicized (Greece is appropriately called Hellas everywhere except the English-speaking world). Likewise, contrasting King of the Hellenes with King of Greece is mixing translations, but I'll leave it since it follows the custom in English. Ddye 17:15, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Ehm... No, Greece is called Griechenland in German, and actually, very few languages actually call Ελλας "Hellas"... Check the interwiki links for Greece, you'll see. —Nightstallion (?) 20:16, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

text: And Grecia in Spanish, and la Grèce in French (if I remember well)... Go learning languages before making claims of knowledge... --euyyn 01:53, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: King of the Hellenes

message: Is the difference only in the name? Or has it any (political?) consequences? Either way, the article should state it. --euyyn 01:55, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, when Otto of Denmark became King of Greece, one of the provisions the Europeon powers (Britain, France, Russia) had was that he could not take the title "King of the Greeks".  The reason was because there were a good number of Greeks still in areas under Ottomon rule and they didn't want to piss them off.  So apparently there must have been some sort of power behind it.--KrossTalk 07:13, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  So what's the difference? 

message: Before the current "King of Sweden" Carl XVI Gustaf, the title was "By the Grace of God King of the Swedes, the Goths/Geats and the Wends". Which is interesting enough to note. --87.194.118.205 (talk) 11:02, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: King of Sweden

message: I don't think King of Scots should be on the list.  It is merely a continuation of an ancient title back when kings didn't rule over countries but a collection of the same people.  The Kings of England were the King of the Anglo-Saxon (later English).  There is also the King of the Goths, King of the Franks, and King of the Vandals. --Queen Elizabeth II's Little Spy (talk) 14:19, 9 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Tribal titles

message: Do all the examples apply to the opening definition? Are there references to show that?--Utinomen (talk) 18:09, 10 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Examples

message: This article is presenting an argument based on an essay by Kingsley_Martin in the The_Political_Quarterly journal. As this article is not 'Kinglsey Martin's views on the subject' but purports to be a general article this clearly seems to be WP:Original. --Utinomen (talk) 13:57, 1 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: agree, this entire page is based on a misconception based on a random idiosyncratic article published in 2005. Not encyclopedic. Should be merged into a more general discussion of styles or titles taken by monarchs throughout history. --dab (𒁳) 19:20, 4 November 2016 (UTC)

text: it's even worse, the article was already in place without reference when the Martin article was added more or less as decoration (with a wrong date, 2005 for 1936) by an IP editor in 2010.   I really don't see much that is salvageable here. --dab (𒁳) 19:27, 4 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Original Research

message: Doesn't the title Emperor of the Germans indicate a popular monarchy? Also, the style by the grace of God, indicates the opposite of a popular monarchy. is there any actual difference?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.176.160.47 (talk) 07:25, 17 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That would seemingly depend on whether you accept that there is such a thing as 'popular monarchy'. How about the Byzantine title of Emperor and Autocrat of the Romans: and does not the Roman Emperor rule by the will of the people, is that not a popular mandate if there ever was one? However, I can't imagine that anyone seriously imagines that the people were actually sovereign in the Roman/Byzantine Empire.--Utinomen (talk) 21:19, 21 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  German Emperor and by the grace of God 

message: What's this doing here on the list? In russian it is "государь всея руси" which means that the holder is a ruler of the entire territory of Rus'. "Rus'" is a collective noun to all russian lands in medival times. It has no connexion to "king of belgians" etc whatsoever. --217.12.244.82 ArthurArthur(talk) 07:05, 6 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tsar of all the russias