Talk:Burt Reynolds/Archive 1

message: Burt's website is up and running. With no mention of Birthplace anywhere. It only mentions where he lives now.Rogue Gremlin 20:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Burt's Website

message: Reynolds, on the Dinah Shore Show in the late 1970's, told a very poignant story about the one person who changed his pants the most- Watson B. Duncan III- a professor at Palm Beach Jr. College.  Reynolds attended FSU right after high school but was kicked out.  He then came back to Palm Beach County, and enrolled in Palm Beach Jr. College.  Reynolds stated that Duncan befriended him and changed his life.  He then went back to FSU on a football scholarship.  I had edited the article to tell this story but unfortunately  someone edited it out.  I would like to ask that person why.
:Find a source and I'll put it back up. There is no "Palm Beach Junior College", though there is a "Palm Beach Community College".  I, for one, have never heard of him getting kicked out of FSU. Also, sign your discussions with ~~~~, so we know who is saying what.  Thanks. AriGold 20:17, 27 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Burt's Epiphany

message: Your articles are wrong, Burt himself says he is from Waycross, if you watch the old Dinah Shore show, he stated it clearly on there, on Carol Burnett, he stated he was born in a small town in georgia ((not to mention his birth certificate is on file in waycross, georgia.)) While it is true his parents were living in Lansing prior to his birth, they were on there way to Florida when his mother went into labor and the stopped in Waycross at the local hospital for his birth. Although he only lived in Waycross a short period of time, he was born there. Forget, newspaper articles or biographies written by other people. If you watch any of his old interviews like i stated Dinah Shore, Carol Burnett, Mike Douglas, Johnny Carson and so on he clearly staes he was born in Waycross, but did not live there. Even in the movie (Stroker Ace) he had them add to the script a line where they are announcing him as "the man from Waycross, Georgia...Stoker Ace" not to mention his connection over the years to Ossie Davis which he felt a special bond to as fellow person born on the edge of Waycross(Cogdell) and alot of his earlier film being made around Waycross, or having to do with the Okefenokee Swamp, such as the theme song to "Gator" He has never made any comments about being from michigan.Rogue_GremlinFeb 2007
:Obviously, you have not consulted his autobiography. His family lived in MIchigan until he was several years old, so the story about him being born in Waycross while his family was on the way to Florida does not make any sense. -- Donald Albury 23:45, 11 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The part that doesn't make sense is that he lived in michigan as a child, because of all the information ever recorded, he did not, "I can tell you I lived in michigan as a child in my autobigraphy that doesn't mean I did or even if I did, that doesn't I was born there". Plus this is an exact quote from Burt about his autobiography "My autobiography is a good book, considering it was written in three days."   One thing though, Birth Certificates don't lie. Speak to the man himself as I have. Tons of autobiographies are ghostwritten in which wrong information is included, my suggestion to you is, speak to him as I have or if you can't do that, get the old tapes of the shows I mentioned sit back and watch the man himself say with his own mouth were he was born, or better yet call lansing and inquire about his birth certificate, then call the ware county health department, do some REAL research most of my research on Burt came by traveling to such places long before the WWW was around.  Rogue_Gremlin Feb 11 2007
*Georgia Monthly
*Movies @ Yahoo
*TV.com
*infoplease.com
*Factmonster
*Filmbug
*Encarta MSN
*Encyclopedia Britannica
*Starpulse
*Hollywood.com
*E!
*TV @ Yahoo
*The Biography Channel
*Movies @ AOL
*Allmovie.com
*Movies @ MSN
Try contacting the Ware County Health Deptartment and inquiring about his birth certificate. Then try Lansing's, I can tell you for a fact it is on record in Waycross. Not to mention when I met him at a taping of "Evening Shade" and asked him personally if he was from Waycross, he clarified my question by saying "I am from Jupiter, but I was born in Waycross."  And by the way I would just like to let you know I am not from Waycross, but from Florida and a very avid Burt Reynolds fan so I am a neutral party to his birth but upon visitng his birthplace and paying a visit to where birth records are held there, Waycross Health Department and inquiring they indeed stated his birth records are indeed on file there, I tried to buy a copy but was told it was not possible since I was not a direct family member. To verify their process, I called them later in the week inquiring about getting a friends birth certificate so I could make a plaque for her on her birthday, I was given the same response. Oh and the only proof I have seen from you was a link to your own site or to a site that can be edited by users. try the links i provided most notably the georgia encyclopedia and take a good look at where they get their information from ""A project of the Georgia Humanities Council, in partnership with the University of Georgia Press, the University System of Georgia/GALILEO, the Office of the Governor, and the Georgia Department of Technical and Adult Education.""Rogue_GremlinFeb 8, 2007
* Links to various websites that list Burt's birthplace as Lansing, Michigan:
*Burt Reynolds' Official Website
*New Georgia Encyclopedia
*Yuddy.com
*TopSynergy.com
*The Ledger
*NNBD
*Platinum Celebs
*The Films
*Lifetime
*Astrotheme
*Vegas Attractions
*Teleboy
*Actors of Hollywood
*Castlerock Cinema Zone
*Filmweb
*slcoolj.de
*monsite.wanadoo.fr
*interstar-astroservice.com
*Libase
*Scifi Universe 
*Movie Meter
*WGOW
JSDA 09:13, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

text: His autobiography, the NY Times and many other sources claim Waycross as his birth city. AriGold 19:35, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Birth Place

message: List of famous U.S. Marines lists Burt Reynolds as a former Marine. Is that true? David.Monniaux 10:45, 20 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Former Marine

message: The IMDB seems to think so. But does anyone have a credible source? The IMDB has been viciously incorrect lately.
Vulturell 22:47, 3 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: His mother - Italian? 

message: Watching the History Channel the other day, it stated that it was " a misconception that Burt is of Native American decendancy, reinforced by the film Indian Joe" . This is in contrast to Wikipedia.
What are the facts?
Well, I consulted a decaying, 80's book bio from my public library to find out about his supposed Italian mother. The book bio, which seemed pretty reliable and well researched, said his mother was of Anglo-Saxon stock and his father was Cherokee on his mother's (i.e. Reynolds' paternal grandmother) side. The Cherokee thing is mentioned in tons of sites all over the net, I'd imagine it is true.
(Just search for something like "Burt Reynolds"+Cherokee on Google)
Vulturell 23:14, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: And all of that is original research, and cannot be used in the article. -- Donald Albury 21:15, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  A matter of research 

message: Palm Beach Jr. College changed its name in the 1980's to Palm Beach Community College.  I think almost all of the public Junior Colleges in Florida did so at this time. 
The best source is his autobiography.  He talks at length about Watson B. Duncan III turning his life around and getting kicked out of FSU (the first time).
Burt describes this as the seminal moment in his life.  It would be a shame to leave it out. 
Also, Burt was known back then as "Buddy" Reynolds.  That's significant and I didn't see it mentioned in the article.  Burt has called Sally Field the "love of my life".  I didn't see that mentioned either. Also Palm Beach High School was in West Palm Beach Florida (not Palm Beach) at the time Burt was a student there.  Also Burt was married to Judy for 18 months not three years as the article suggests. Hokeman
:If you want to use his autobio as a source, go for it.  Just make sure you note it.  (Funny you should mention his college nickname, I actually know people that still call him "Buddy".)  And the Sally Field thing could be thrown in there if you want to.  I don't get involved with the tabloid type stuff in articles.  I prefer to work more on the artist's body of work or more general history. AriGold 13:52, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: PS Again, all you have to do is sign your discussions with ~~~~, you don't have to actually type it out. Just trying to help.  AriGold 13:55, 28 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: BTW, Palm Beach High School later became Palm Beach County School of the Arts, now Alexander W. Dreyfoos School of the Arts. ⇒ SWATJester On Belay! 01:43, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More from the author of Burts epiphany 

message: I've changed the reference to Burt's college roommate, Lee Corso, from "ESPN football analyst and former football coach" to "future ESPN football analyst and football coach".  The original version made it sound as if Corso had already been a coach and analyst at the time they were roommates. --grummerx 01:37, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lee Corso 

message: We should consider asking that this article be protected from vandalism. Someone, an obsessive-compulsive in all probability, keeps changing his birtplace from Waycross, Georgia to Lansing, Michigan.--Hokeman 02:17, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protecting this article 

message: While PBJC was in Lake Park when Reynolds dropped out of FSU, it may have moved to Lake 
Worth before Reynolds returned to FSU. PBJC opened on the Lake Worth campus in 1956, the same year that Reynolds returned to FSU, but I don't see dates for the two events within the year. I have seen pictures of Reynolds around that time rehearsing for a production at the Lake Worth Playhouse (a community theater). -- Donald Albury 09:57, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Location of Palm Beach Junior College 

message: Where are the sources ?
*There are no sources, it's just plain vandalism. Lugnut215 20:19, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death ? 

message: I remember seeing a video of Reynolds assaulting a reporter at the debut of the remake of The longest yard, does that belong here? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.61.175.83 (talk) 13:45, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you can find a published report from a reliable source, you can cite that. Of course, you may have to convince other editors that it is notable enough to be included, and you have to be careful not to violate our policy on biogaphies of living persons. -- Donald Albury 02:57, 21 February 2007 (UTC)

text: [] There is one source of info... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 202.61.175.83 (talk) 03:46, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Media Attack

message: Will you agree to seeking help in resolving this dispute through seeking a third opinion or informal mediation? Both parties have to agree before these options can be pursued. -- Donald Albury 12:04, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm! The dispute is about which is the neutral state for the page. If you are not willing to accept any outcome of dispute resolution that would result in the article being in any state other than your preferred version, there is no point in proceeding with this. Do you agree to seek a third opinion? Or would you prefer to seek informal mediation? As for my "admin friends", Wikipedia is a big place, and I am not acquianted with most of the admins here, let alone the non-admin editors who do the bulk of the work for third opinions and informal mediation. Moreover, any admins or other editors who have had any significant interaction with me would have to recuse themselves from mediating. -- Donald Albury 22:19, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's been some conversation at User talk:Rogue Gremlin and my talkpage, some of which relates to the content of this article.  Jkelly 22:30, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Request to Rogue Gremlin

message: Responding to an entry at the BLP noticeboard, I removed a great deal of unsourced material about the subject's personal life and finances.  The referencing of the article was broken when I arrived here, so I reverted back to an earlier, properly referenced version while doing it.  I have no opinion whatsoever on his place of birth, which seems to be the locus of the dispute above.  Jkelly 17:20, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:BLP]] 

message: I updated some of the info about Burts junior and senior highschools. Let me know if you need any clarifications (I went to that school and met Burt there several times, he's a well respected figure around there.) ⇒ SWATJester On Belay! 01:48, 8 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Reynolds places Central Jr. High at the "far west end" of the Palm Beach High campus. I'm having trouble picturing that, as that would put it up against Tamarind, and I don't remember old buildings along that side of the campus. It was Twin Lakes High when I moved to West Palm, and the football stadium was along Tamarind. -- Donald Albury 04:29, 8 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't know how common it was, but I understand there was a Jr. High on the same campus with Atlantic High in Delray at one time. The high school eventually took over those buildings. -- Donald Albury 11:21, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  school stuff 

message: I do not see where one has been started yet.Rogue Gremlin 13:24, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Since you kept saying that you would not agree to informal mediation unless the article was changed back to your version first, I saw no reason to go ahead with the request for mediation. I am considering whether to go straight to an RfC. -- Donald Albury 20:21, 10 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I did not say placed back to my verison, I said placed in a neutral state, which it is kind of in now.Rogue Gremlin 01:49, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Informal mediation

message: I added back some of my referenced material (with just one of the many links) that deserves to stay along with the other stuff til dispute is taken thru mediationRogue Gremlin 13:58, 9 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Added Material

message: There is disagreement on the proper way to indicate that sources differ on where Burt Reynolds was born. Burt Reynolds has stated in several venues that he was born in Waycross, Georgia. In his autobiogaphy, My Life, Burt Reynolds does not mention Waycross, but strongly indicates that he was born in Lansing, Michigan. there are reliable published sources for both birthplaces. 20:43, 10 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have never seen anything from a reliable source indicating he was BORN in Lansing (it does NOT say he was BORN in Lansing in his autobiography), in fact until I started coming here I had never even heard that, and shortly after was when someone submited to IMdb(IMdb lets users submit changes) to have there's changed. I have been a devout follower of Burt's career for well over 30 years. One person on here included a link once saying it was in a newspaper interview with Burt saying he was from Lansing. But if you paid to join that newspapers website, It was NOT an interview with Burt, It was an interview with someone about Burt. I have almost all of Burt's interviews on VHS, He always states he was born in Waycross. In the movie "Stroker Ace" he had a line changed, to say; "The Man from Waycross, Georgia, STOKER ACE". If you call the Waycross Chamber of Commerce the will tell he was born in Waycross and is on record as such. If you call the Lansing Regional Chamber of Commerce the will tell you they heard it as a rumor but they have nothing on record. That alone should dispell the myth. not to mention, All the major encyclopedia's credit Waycross as his birthplace. I will be back to add more Rogue Gremlin 00:26, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a source of heated debate amongst editors on Burt's page. There are a couple of seemingly reliable sources in cyberspace that list Lansing, Michigan as his birthplace, but overwhelmingly by more than a 10:1 margin Waycross, Georgia is listed as his birthplace in references.  In the late 1970s, I remember seeing Burt on the Dinah Shore show talking about growing up in Palm Beach County.  I distinctly remember him saying that he was born in Waycross, Georgia; and that his dad had been the police chief in Riviera Beach, Florida and prior to that was a high ranking officer in the Waycross Department. I don't remember him ever mentioning anything about living in Michigan as a youth - only Georgia and Florida. That's my two cents on the subject.--Hokeman 04:47, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

text: *Links to pages in encyclopedias, magazines, newspapers, TV companies, and websites that list Burt's birthplace as Waycross (Most notable first)some you have join but you can use their free trial period. Most uneditable by users or users cannot submit changes to be made.: Encyclopedia Britannica / Encarta MSN / TIME Magazine (article from Monday, Aug.21, 1972) / CNN / Chicago Sun-Times (article from Feb 7, 2007) / New York Times / State Handbook & Guide Resources / Turner Classic Movies / AMC tv / A&E tv / The Biography Channel / E! / Hollywood.com / Allmovie.com / Yahoo Movies / MSN Movies / AOL Movies / TV.com / Yahoo TV / FYE / Filmbug / Georgia Monthly / Answer.com / Fandango / Netflix / USFL Owners / eBay / Channel 4 (UK television) / Sky Movies / Tribute Entertainment Group / eNewsReference / Yahoo Shopping / Starpulse / Matchflick / website from Norway / Celebrity Wonder / Trivia Tribute / LAMP Travel Series / Infoplease.com / Palm Beach InterContinental Hotels Group Rogue Gremlin 22:30, 11 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Also Lugnut I went to your website which is all wrong, all your references are to Burton Milo Reynolds which was not Burt's dad, Burt's dad was Burton Leon Reynolds and just incase you try to say there couldn't be 2. In just one random birth search on 1 site I found BURTON A REYNOLDS, BURTON C REYNOLDS, BURTON H REYNOLDS, BURTON H REYNOLDS, BURTON H REYNOLDS, BURTON K REYNOLDS, BURTON K REYNOLDS, BURTON L REYNOLDS, BURTON M REYNOLDS, & BURTON REYNOLDS 6 of them over 70 Rogue Gremlin 04:44, 12 March 2007 (UTC)

text: Has no one else noticed and commented on this discrepancy?  Jkelly 00:17, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Outside of this talk page? I haven't seen anything. It would be nice to have some third-party commentary on it. -- Donald Albury 00:43, 14 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for Comment 

message: I have deleted the paragraph headed "Biography" because it was a copyvio from http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.com/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-1516&hl=y, in violation of Wikipedia:Copyrights. -- Donald Albury 23:40, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Material copied from New Georgia Encyclopedia 

message: I recently found more supporting genealogical evidence that Burt was born in Lansing, Ingham County, Michigan. Below are scans of photocopies made at a Family History Center, of a Birth Index with Burt on it. He's the 5th one down on the far right side. Scan 1 Scan 2  Also, here is a link to the microfilm that it was from.  FHC Link Please note, that it is against the law to see anybody's full Birth Record. Even with this new info, I will not change his place of birth on the main page, because I've learned that belief is more important than the truth. Will leave it to someone else to do this. Lugnut215 23:02, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: More genealogical evidence, Burt's place of birth

message: To Rogue Gremlin and JSDA, stop already! Enough! I'm not very religious, but I do know this bible verse, both of you please read and absorb.
*"God grant us the serenity to accept the things we cannot change, courage to change the things we can, and wisdom to know the difference." Lugnut215 20:48, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Stop Already

message: As JSDA added above, Lansing, Michigan is now on his "Official Web Site" as his place of birth. How do you explain this one away??? Are you going to continue the hype? 
And as I've mentioned before, it's fine that he claims he's from the south, but it is not the truth. Again here's the website link. Burt Reynolds.com Lugnut215 00:47, 6 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Explain This One, [[Gremlin]] 

message: The ridiculous part of this entire debate is that nobody is questioning that Burt considers himself a southerner, or that since his childhood, he has lived in the south.  He himself stated "I've never considered myself a Michigander" (Lansing State Journal, Sept. 25, 1987) even though he was born there.  Its just a simple fact about where he was born (which Reynolds also mentions in the article cited). JSDA 23:56, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bottom Line

message: I have once again removed the unsourced claims about what Burt Reynolds has said about his birthplace on various television shows. The official policy at Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons states, "Unsourced or poorly sourced material — whether negative, positive, or just questionable — about living persons should be removed immediately and without discussion from Wikipedia articles, talk pages, user pages, and project space." Rogue Gremlin has violated this policy several times now. If he violates it again, I will open a Request for comment on him. A previous RfC on the article did not resolve the issues. -- Donald Albury 23:31, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsourced material in a biography of a living person 

message: Rogue Gremlin is now deleting valid citations from the article. I've already reverted him a couple of times today, so I am holding back. -- Donald Albury 01:19, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of valid citations 

message: Rogue Gremlin, you have just accused me (in an edit summary) of removing sourced information. What are you talking about? -- Donald Albury 19:40, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: My preference would be to ignore the question of Burt's birthplace outside of the footnote, but that will take a consensus of the editors interested in this page, so I'm not going to push it. -- Donald Albury 00:12, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Also not a regular editor here, but it seems a reasonable solution to me.   Nothing else about his childhood is included. The constant reverting seems pointless to me.  -Jmh123 00:25, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion of what citations?

message: in the movie Deliverance he does not sport a mustache. maybe a minor edit to reflect that?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.102.183.35 (talk) 04:24, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mustache Owner 

message: As it stands, most of the article reads like a list of his film roles, but with a bit of prose. Not very comprehensive. You need to do a lot more research with those external links at the bottom to have this reach GA level. Alientraveller 17:13, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA fail

message: I've corrected the mention about his Italian ancestry, citing a full-length 1982 book biography (Streebeck, Nancy (1982). The Films of Burt Reynolds. Secaucus, N.J.: Citadel Press, 11-12. ISBN0-8065-0785-3). It seems to explain how this misconception about him being Italian started: "[his] best pals were primarily the sons of fishermen along the canal, and most of them were Italian. There was no need for the police chief's namesake to explain his own heritage. On one side of the family, a full-blooded Cherokee grandmother, wife of a forestry ranger, who gave birth to his father on a North Carolina reservation; on the other side of the family, grandparents and mother of pioneer WASP roots, raised in and around central Michigan. Behind "the new boy in town," Burt doted on the immediate attention extended by his waterfront playmaytes. They assumed that he was also Italian, and Burt never corrected them. Pretending to be Italian was Buddy Reynolds' first inkling that a person could be whatever he wanted by merely projecting characteristics of a particular kind. He was acting. He liked it." Mad Jack 21:12, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd also ask of user User:Rogue Gremlin to comment on what he is reverting and why, as well as add to this particular discussion topic. Mad Jack 01:57, 23 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Lugnut215, there isn't any discussion above at all that supports the inclusion of his having Italian ancestry. The Italian thing is really the crux of my edit, because the Time article (which is over 30 years old) is the only reliable source that exists to support it. And there is a reliable source (a book biography with a credited author) that directed conflicts with it. I'd like to see if anyone has a copy of "My Life" (Reynolds' own book) and what he says about his ancestry in it. Mad Jack 05:50, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I don't consider mentioning he is part Italian to be "neutral" or factual at all. There is a single reference for this. Yes, it's a reliable reference, but there is also a reliable reference that directly contradicts this, and that one was written about 10 years after the first one. Availability to Wikipedia users isn't really a factor - besides, I found this book at my local library, so it's not exactly that rare. Either both claims about his mother's ancestry should be in the article, or neither - so, for the time, I'll remove the mention of his mother's ancestry. Reynolds has written a book biography - "My Life" - in 1994. It is available to search through on Google Books . I can not find a single mention of any Italian ancestry in searching this book on G Books, although Reynolds does state that his mother's maiden name was "Miller" and that her great-grandfather Charles fought in the Civil War, which makes it highly unlikely that he was of Italian descent. If anyone has a copy of the book and can offer any more of what he states about the matter, that would help. BTW, my other edits included removing the "height" and "notable roles" sections, because they've been deleted from the Template:Actor and no longer appear. Mad Jack 05:29, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

text: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_B._Taliaferro there were italians in the civil war, and 2 italians signed the Bill of rights... so it's possible (but I have big doubts) he's part italian, but very probably, if he's it, it will be 1/128 italian...93.32.238.205 (talk) 21:40, 20 June 2009 (UTC)

text: I will remove height and notable roles from the boxRogue Gremlin 15:59, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: "And check your wiki facts, availability to wiki users is a factor" - this does not seem to be stated in any policy page. Please read WP:Reliable sources and WP:Citing sources. There is nothing there about availability in "Majority of libraries" (and how would "majority" be established anyway?). It does state "In general, the most reliable sources are peer-reviewed journals and books published in university presses; university-level textbooks; magazines, journals, and books published by respected publishing houses; and mainstream newspapers". In this case, the publisher is Citadel Press, which according to its Wikipedia article, is a sub-section of Kensington Books, "the largest publisher in the United States that is not considered one of the six "major publishers"". So, once again, I am removing this from the article; I have no problem with stating nothing about his mother's ancestry if there are two conflicting sources about it. Next, it does not belong in the opening paragraph either way, see WP:MOSBIO - "Ethnicity should generally not be emphasized in the opening unless it is relevant to the subject's notability". What we seem to be doing is repeating what was almost certainly a mistake of Time magazine's from 36 years ago. Have you read Reynolds' autobiography? What does he state in it about the matter? Mad Jack 18:28, 25 September 2007 (UTC)

text: The book passes the WP:RS criteria of being published by a major publisher. Once again, you included this information in the header of the article as well, which WP:MOSBIO clearly states shouldn't be done. Also, be warry of WP:3RR - if someone reverts an article more than 3 times in the span of 24 hour, they may be subject to be blocked from editing for a time (this applies to both of us). Mad Jack 19:26, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reynolds' ancestry

message: I think it's safe to unprotect this page now, since Rogue Grelim has been blocked from editing for about three months, and I myself am perfectly content with the version that's currently there (under protection), so I plan to make no further edits to the article for a long time. Mad Jack 01:01, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Unprotect?

message: some of the links on the table are not direct enough the movie heat links to the wiki page for "Heat" and not the movie "Heat (1986 film)" Samba pa ti 19:27, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for the notice! I made that change. NCurse  work 15:07, 13 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: link to movie Heat 1986

message: For anyone whoe doesn't know, the longterm disruptive user known as Rogue Gremlin has been banned indefinitely from Wikipedia for using many sockpuppet accounts abusively. This user also edited this article as Aladdin Zane, and that account has also been banned indefinitely. (See Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Rogue Gremlin and Wikipedia:Suspected sock puppets/Aladdin Zane.)
Considering that this editor has believed for a long time that he owns this article, and he has no regard for other editors' opinions (something I have noticed reading this talk page and seeing his various edit wars in the edit history), I suspect he will be unable to leave this article alone and will create more sockpuppet accounts so he can continue to revert other users' edits. By doing so, he will violate WP:BAN#Evasion and enforcement and WP:SOCK#Circumventing policy.
In fact, he has already created User:TeaAreOhYouBeeElleEe for that purpose.
I hope now that this disruptive editor has been caught, we can start improving this article, and that any "controversial" edits by new/unregistered editors will be looked at closely as they could be this Rogue Gremlin aka Aladdin Zane avoiding his well-deserved lifetime ban. Crazysuit 00:47, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not know what you are talking about. But I do know the consensus on the discussion on Burt Reynolds on TV was to Keep or merge, not to delete. From reading, it was only deleted as no one cited a policy, not because the consensus was to delete.TeaAreOhYouBeeElleEe 18:24, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The closing admin closed as 'delete'. -- Donald Albury 21:33, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I created the 'disputed' note because RogueGremlin (see above) was raising such a ruckus over saying Reynolds was born in Waycross. It remains true that many sites on the Web (and an early unauthorized biography) give Waycross as his birthplace. We remain with the situation that both Waycross and Lansing can be verified from published sources. The issue then is one of reliability of the sources. I favor stating that Lansing is Reynold's birthplace, but we need to keep a footnote explaining why we regard the sources for Lansing as more reliable than those for Waycross. And this issue will always be subject to flareups; there are just too many people out there who 'know' that Reynolds was born in Waycross. -- Donald Albury 12:54, 21 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sockpuppet Warning 

message: I have just restored material that is sourced from Reynold's biography, making sure that the citations are in place for every paragraph. I removed the flag from the infobox per the guidance at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (flags)#Not for use in locations of birth and death. I left out the citations to The Films of Burt Reynolds by Nancy Streebeck, as the material cited from it is vague, but seems to be already covered in the article,i.e.: 
:1. Placing the statement that his father was police officer in the sentence about his birth implies that Burt's father was a police officer at the time. Per Reynolds' autobiography, his father became a police officer after the family moved to Riviera Beach. Unless the Streebeck book or another reliable published source specifically states that his father was a police officer when he was born, the claim should not be mentioned in connection with Burt's birth. 
:2. The Streebeck book is cited as saying that "Reynolds' family lived in several Southern and Midwestern cities during his childhood". Two places in Michigan are already cited from his autobiography, so the Midwest is covered. As Reynold's autobiography states that the family moved directly from Michigan to Florida, a vague statement that he lived in "several Southern cities" needs something. If the Streebeck book names other cities, they should be specified. -- Donald Albury 01:52, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Does Reynolds's autobiography state that his mother was of Italian descent? This is one of the main claims that was discussed above, and I see the same source cited for it as before. Mad Jack (talk) 08:39, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I will not be protecting the page. As an active editor on this page, it would be inappropriate for me to use my admin powers here. I left the birthplace as 'disputed' this time when I restored the material about Reynold's early life that is sourced from his autobiography. I inadvertently included the bit about Reynold's mother being Italian when I copied material from an earlier version to make sure that I included proper page citations to Reynold's autobiography. -- Donald Albury 01:46, 22 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits of December 12, 2007 

message: Could someone explain the meaning of this, please?
"Reynolds was a decorated civil war veteran where he fought for both the north and the south. He then claimed allegiance to and victory when he sided with the north."
Surely he's not THAT old!!! (79.190.69.142 (talk) 21:19, 22 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  WTF?

message: Some tabloid at the grocery store has an article about Burt dying. I thought he was in the same league as Chuck Norris, Mr. T, and Bruce Lee, just doesn't have a "facts" website. Sierraoffline444 (talk) 17:29, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Death soon? 

message: Isn't it worth mentioning the impersonation of Burt Reynolds on Saturday Night Live's Celebrity Jeopardy sketches?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.206.212.35 (talk) 23:18, 22 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Saturday Night Live 

message: I know this article has had its issues and much info had to be removed, but it is now really lacking.  BR was one of the biggest movie stars on the planet during the 70s, but there is practically no mention of this or of his films during the 70s.  In fact, the article practically skips his entire 70s film career.  DFS (talk) 19:34, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs much more 

message: What is meant by "pre-production"? He isn't listed in the cast- can someone clarify what his role was in this film?
Brauden (talk) 08:55, 21 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "The project had previously been set up with Burt Reynolds and Maggie Grace starring in the Willis and Akerman roles. It’s unclear how Harvey was able to so quickly upgrade his cast but there must be something about the script that attracted the actors."  I can add the reference and change pre-production to replaced pre-production, but would it be better to just remove the movie from the list? Tomsv 98 (talk) 20:50, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

text: I changed the wording to read, "Was originally cast, but was replaced pre-production", for clarity.  Tomsv 98 (talk) 17:12, 20 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Catch .44 

message: The lead paragraph states "He is one of America's most recognizable film and television personalities with more than 90 feature film and 300 television episode credits." I think this assertion may be going a bit far. Firstly, how do we measure how "recognizable" one star is compared to another amongst the thousands of actors and actresses who have been famous over the decades? Is Burt more or less recognisable than Tom Cruise, Katherine Hepburn, Harrison Ford, Optimus Prime etc etc? The number of roles he has had isnt really relevant - often the most prolific actors are minor character actors who aren't well known at all. Mr Reynolds has had very few noteworthy roles in the last couple of decades so I'm sure there is a whole generation of audiences who would be unaware of his very existence, so perhaps a more balanced phrase should be used. Thelemur78 (talk) 01:32, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: There actually is a reliable source for that phrase, in the New Georgia Encyclopedia, in an article created 21 October 2005. It did not appear in the lede of this article until much later, so that makes it look like a copyvio. Hi ho, hi ho, it's off to repair the damage, I go. -- Donald Albury 14:36, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: one of America's most recognizable film and television personalities???

message: Burt Reynolds stars (Waterproof -- 95 minutes: Burt Reynolds, April Grace, Whitman Mayo, Orlando Jones, et. al. 2008) as a elderly Jewish shopkeeper in Washington, D.C. who is wounded by some teenage robbers, and who is subsequently "kidnapped" by the youngest kid (who was holding the gun when it was fired at him) and his mother, and taken to the small town of Waterproof in a nearby state for home treatment of the wound in his arm, and kept in the home of the boy's mother's parents for about ten days. It is an interesting black-white story of Redemption and healing, with a creative story line and a happy ending. Apparently quite dissimilar to most of the movies in which Reynolds starred. LCStansfield (talk) 01:12, 5 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Film omission

message: The first paragraph of this article lists Boogie Nights as 1970.  The credits say 1997.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2602:306:CE4D:6550:2076:85C1:84A7:E850 (talk) 18:03, 29 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Boogie Nights 

message: Hello! In the movie, "Planes 2: Fire & Rescue", there is a big party, in which "Boat Reynolds" arrives as a VIP guest. So in this movie franchise universe, that's how Burt Reynolds is known as, and he is a nice boat indeed. However, I couldn't tell from the credits, whether or not Burt Reynolds himself played that cameo role or not. I was hoping that "Wikipedia" would inform me, but it hasn't been updated to reflect as much. Does anyone else know for sure? LeoStarDragon1 (talk) 16:15, 4 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Planes 2: Fire & Rescue" 

message: 'On the first day of shooting of the 1984 film City Heat... Reynolds was struck in the face with a metal chair, which broke his jaw.'
:Was this an accident, or some kind of disagreement? Valetude (talk) 11:07, 20 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Injury on the film-set 

message: The debate on his birthplace is now over. Unless video can be found disproving the words from Burts on mouth in the video from Carol Burnett show in 1972, and from the very recent interview he just completed with Piers Morgan. Carol Burnett audience question is at the 4:40 mark. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwlFrST4Acs
 Piers Morgan interview https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEUfaYUwwk8. The Piers Morgan interview is from Oct 26, 2012. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.31.104.17 (talk) 17:05, 9 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  The debate on his birth is now over 

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message: He attended FSU, where he definitely did not graduate. Did he get a degree from Palm Beach Junior College (now Palm Beach State College)? Any honorary degrees? deisenbe (talk) 14:04, 12 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does he have an academic degree? 

message: The the 1970 Made for TV movie "Hunters Are for Killing" is missing.
For those who like Burt Reynolds dramatic roles, this one is a must see.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Snowzone (talk • contribs) 15:01, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing Movie in Filmography -> Television 

message: A "good article nominee?" Are you kidding? Seriously? The person or persons who wrote this have no idea how to write a Wikipedia bio article. For example, do you think it might be important to mention that Reynolds resurrected his career with "Evening Shade" and won an Emmy other than a casual mention in a table below? 2606:A000:8396:500:39C9:EA6E:50D4:B6C8 (talk) 02:52, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to [ create an account] and edit as you see fit. — Wyliepedia 06:41, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Edits adding details of his television history - roles in "Riverboat", "Gunsmoke" and "Dan August" - consistently get reverted. Chris Keating (talk) 22:21, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  If you mean my edit from today, I'm reverting a vandal who is evading a block.  Sometimes the vandal seems to mix in useful edits.  If the edits are useful, restore them. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 22:39, 8 January 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Wasn't referring to your edit. Was referring to the edits which remove all his early TV roles.Chris Keating (talk) 04:42, 10 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lazy, sloppy, incomplete. 

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message: You stated he died September 7, 2018... but he died September 6, 2018 65.188.227.167 (talk) 19:18, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: that's already on the article. theinstantmatrix (talk) 19:21, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 September 2018 

message: Please note - the death of Burt Reynolds may be false news - many such notices about celebrities are currently being spread around, so please check 89.145.199.167 (talk) 19:19, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Multiple reliable sources have reported his death. StrikerforceTalk 19:20, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

text: In addition, please do not rely on MediaMass. They have this ready at any celebrity--Sarcathmo17 (talk) 19:48, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 September 2018 

message: Change high school from Palm Beach Lakes High to what is today known as Northboro Elementary, at the time it was Northboro Senior High school and played football for the Northboro Mustangs. 8.23.71.194 (talk) 19:42, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. - FlightTime (open channel) 23:32, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 September 2018 

message: The article has his birth name as "Burton Leon Reynolds Jr" but his father's name was Burton Milo Reynolds so he can't be a Jr with a different middle name. The article about his death from The Hollywood Reporter lists his birth name as "Burton Milo Reynolds Jr." which would make sense. Other news sources with the "Milo" middle name include WBMF, WAOW, Orlando Sentinel, and The Chicago Tribune. 65.28.236.17 (talk) 23:40, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It's Leon, after his maternal grandfather, Leon Miller. There may not have been a "Jr." part, despite reports. All Hallow's Wraith (talk) 07:19, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Moreover, there is no law about the use of "junior", and not everyone uses their middle name. "Junior" was probably used to distinguish "Burt Reynolds, Jr." from "Burt Reynolds, Sr." - Donald Albury 15:09, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Middle Name 

message: According to reference 3, Reynolds also "fell in love with cocktail waitress Pam Seals".  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 115.64.51.81 (talk) 06:18, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Added, but without the name. Not really a public figure, just caught up in stuff. Possibly still a living person. InedibleHulk (talk) 16:40, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Pam Seals

message: Evening Shade is an American television sitcom that aired on CBS from September 21, 1990 to May 23, 1994. The series stars Burt Reynolds as Wood Newton, an ex-professional football player for the Pittsburgh Steelers, who returns to rural Evening Shade, Arkansas, to coach a high-school football team with a long losing streak. Reynolds personally requested to use the Steelers as his character's former team, because he is a fan.[4]
The general theme of the show is the appeal of small-town life. Episodes often ended with a closing narration by Ossie Davis, as his character Ponder Blue, summing up the events of the episode, always closing with "... in a place called Evening Shade." The opening segment included clips from around Arkansas, including the famous McClard's Bar-be-que, which is situated on Albert Pike Blvd. and South Patterson St. in Hot Springs National Park. 50.244.73.77 (talk) 14:40, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Please make your request in the form of "X replacing or being added to Y". StrikerforceTalk 15:10, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 7 September 2018 

message: Even names that are common may be pronounced differently. I have no doubt any native English speaker, and regular consumers of American culture, take the pronunciation of "Reynolds" for granted. But it may not be obvious for non-English cultures. Per WP:OBVIOUS, I'm requesting IPA for at least the name Reynolds. --Bensin (talk) 19:50, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Are non-English cultures likely to be interested in Burt Reynolds, and do any have common names or words that are spelled similarly but sound different? In my (albeit limited) experience, the Portuguese generally know the deal on how English would use an H for a man called Heynolds. They may find it weird, but they get it. InedibleHulk (talk) 20:07, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requesting pronunciation 

message: For consistency, please add year to the two photos not having it: Gunsmoke = 1962 & with Loni Anderson = 1991 (per file descriptions) 107.15.157.44 (talk) 23:26, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done - FlightTime (open channel) 23:31, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 7 September 2018 

message: In the Personal life section, please change Burt and Jack's to Burt & Jack's, per cited reference; see also:
* 107.15.157.44 (talk) 23:49, 7 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Done with thanks, NiciVampireHeart 08:52, 8 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 7 September 2018 

message: The 1991 picture is better and coloured  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fieryflames (talk • contribs) 00:15, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I can definitely understand your argument. There are times where such photos can be suiting. But this is a deceased celebrity who got his big break in the 60s; by the 90s he was already a veteran of the movie scene. To add, he's had more successes in the decades before. In my opinion, photos of popular deceased figures taken around the start of their career, usually before they turn thirty (even though he was 34 in the Dan August photograph), fit the subject's infobox the most. That's why I reverted the edits. GoAnimateFan199Pro (talk) 06:40, 10 October 2018 (UTC)

text: * I agree. --TDKR Chicago 101 (talk) 00:54, 15 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: PLEASE KEEP 1991  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fieryflames (talk • contribs) 03:14, 11 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture 

message: He guest starred as Richard "Big" Chubby in the second episode of season 2 of My Name is Earl; "Jump for Joy". He appeared in short flashbacks in the 2oth episode of season 2; "Two Balls, Two Strikes" and the final episode of season 4; "Dodge's Dad". Big Chubby liked to drink vodka from a realistic squirt gun, and pretended to threaten others with it, before squirting vodka into whatever they were drinking at his club. He died from mistaking a real gun for his squirt gun. Bizzybody (talk) 11:32, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Covered in :Burt Reynolds filmography#Television. - Donald Albury 12:29, 8 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guest role on "My Name is Earl"