Talk:Sugar

message: The footnote states "The carbohydrate figure is calculated in the USDA database and does not always correspond to the sum of the sugars, the starch, and the dietary fiber." 
The problem with this is that the data still doesnt add up and is stilltherefore clearly erroneous, completely desyroying all reasonable credibillity of all the data in the table. 
I would submit that if it doesnt add up the whole table should be outright removed from wikipedia in any event becauswle it clearly, by admission of the footnote, isn't factual data in any event regardless of the claimed source, unless there is a reasonable explanation as to exactly why the data is miscalculated in the table as to show that the miscalculation was not reasonably avoidable and was not intended by any party to be a willful and deliberate deception. Otherwise, I would be in favor of removing the entire table as clearly false data as to maintain a factual article and ensure strict WP:NPOV adherance. 2600:8804:6F0F:6D00:10C4:EC80:B6EF:5F7E (talk) 18:32, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Willful and Deliberate Deception in reported Data 

message: Is there a way to add potential allergies from sugar? I have hives whenever I go above 75 grams of sugar content per day FyoCascade (talk) 05:21, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The section about health effects of sugar is missing a lot of details; it doesn't even mention the effects of sugar on the immune system. Jarble (talk) 22:48, 6 April 2023 (UTC)

text: This is most probably not a reaction to sugar but a reaction to something else that is with the sugar, given that even table sugar has other things in it such that chemically isolated pure sugar is hard to come by outside the lab, and is what would be needed to establish that the reaction is to sugar and nothing else.2600:8804:6F0F:6D00:10C4:EC80:B6EF:5F7E (talk) 18:59, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allergy 

message: Has the connection of sugar and CVD been discussed here before? I just came across this based on this study.
Here is a not too old editorial discussing the issue. The AHA cautions to reduce sugar intake, while more up-to-date studies found much higher thresholds for sugar intake (~ sugar being less harmful).
I did not do rigorous research on this but only browsed through some pages. 
I think the possibility of a connection is in many people‘s minds and it would therefore be a welcome addition if the article could sum up the current evidence (or lack thereof). CarlFromVienna (talk) 15:44, 30 December 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The study you cite there really doesnt mean anything other than maybe a positive correlation, which is not enough to demonstrate a cause and effect relationship within proper application of the scientific method. In general studies using a cohort design must be viewed as particularly suspect, meaning that this needs way more research before it is due to even be considered to appear on Wikipedia, if wikipedia is to have any reasonable credibillity whatsoever.. 2600:8804:6F0F:6D00:10C4:EC80:B6EF:5F7E (talk) 18:55, 27 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sugar and CVD 

message: The quote "No previous war in history has been fought so largely on sugar and so little on alcohol" that has been somewhat nonsensically anonymized here and referred to Chris Otter, actually origins from Edwin Emery Slosson's Creative Chemistry: Descriptive of Recent Achievements in the Chemical Industries (New York: Century, 1920), p. 175. (Otter renames Slosson into "Edward" and repeats it in the index, although the book reference is correct; he also calls Slosson a "journalist", ignoring the fact that Slosson was Wyoming state chemist who had a PhD in organic chemistry, and his "journalism" was postly just popular science. It might be best to name the author of the quote and replace the reference with the original source. --Ehitaja (talk) 18:53, 26 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "No previous war in history" 

message: This article does not mention the role of glycation end products in the health effects of sugar. Are these effects relevant to this article? Jarble (talk) 18:55, 22 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Glycation end products