Talk:Drew Rosenhaus

message: I had to edit the part of the article where it said that Willis McGahee is one of the most successful current running backs.  That line was far too generous to willis mcgahee.  I changed it to one of the most promising young running backs.
--Henrybaker 22:53, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Willis McGahee 

message: Your repeated insertion of the paragraph about DR refusing to participate in a small radio station interview because of his alleged opposition to seal hunting does not belong in this article for numerous reasons.  One, it is not cited and quite possibly untrue.  I could find nothing on it.  Two, even if it is true, it is not an encylopedic fact worthy of inclusion.  This person's notability is not as a save the seals activist, but as a professional football agent.  Unless his activism was a central part of his life or career, it's an incredibly trivial entry.
Finally and most importantly, wikipedia has a policy that prohibits reverting edits more than three times.  You have inserted it 12 times.  Also, you have made no other edits to any other article, or to even this one, and I suspected your entry to be borderline vandalism.  I have tried to correct this in the hopes that you would not persist in your violations of the 3rr.  I now give up.  I am now leaving your contribution, not reverting it, and I instead have reported it.  I hope that editors will see my good intentions and that you will come to understand the importance of this policy.  In my view, your contributions have been very counter-productive.  This paragraph should be removed and your 3rr violations should be addressed.  MiamiDolphins3 15:43, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I was listening to TEAM1040 over the Internet the day it happened, and the DJs were having quite a laugh at Rosenhaus's sudden adherence to principle (and quite a non-sequitur at that – it would be like boycotting an Austrian radio station because you don't like Arnold Schwarzenegger's gubernatorial policies). Obviously you're not going to have a written source for something like that – who on earth would have recorded it? (If TEAM1040 has an audio-vault, you could find it there, but I don't think they do). Unless Rosenhaus has a website spelling it out, this is obviously something he thought privately until he brought it into the mainstream by refusing an interview with a very standard sports station. (How you conclude that TEAM1040 is a "small" station is beyond me. I somehow doubt you've conducted studies on its market share in Vancouver... they're not huge, because it's an all-sports station, but it's significant in absolute terms in a city of 2 million people). Moreover, the DJs took note that Rosenhaus's view had been expressed on Wikipedia. It's clearly something he believes in, so keep it in. I don't see the problem. J21 06:25, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: J21:  It cannot be reinserted based on your explanation.  Wikipedia is not to be a source for original resource.  If it has not been reference in any credible media, there's a reason for it: they too were either a.) unable to verify it; or b.) considered it greatly trivial; or c.) both.  Finally, my description of the Vancouver station was only meant to contrast it with the fact that DR appears on Fox Sports, ESPN and very large sports media outlets.  In comparison, it's small.  And I fully understand that wikipedia is a global, not just a U.S., outlet, but this person and his business are U.S.-based.  Vancouver doesn't even have a team, so media based there becomes somewhat less relevant and less high profile.  Bottom line, though, is that this is a sourceless paragraph and, even if you had a transcript of the DJ statements, it's baseless without a response confirming or denying it by DR, which would probably exist in any maninstream media coverage of this.  MiamiDolphins3 14:32, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[User:Princess ofCloutierland]]

message: On May 30, 2006 Rosenhaus was contacted to do the Rick Ball show on the TEAM 1040, a sports talk radio station in Vancouver, BC. He cited his opposition to the seal hunt as his reason for refusal to do any Canadian radio, though the hunt takes place nowhere near Vancouver and no radio station has any control over it.  MiamiDolphins3 21:42, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I was listening to TEAM1040 over the Internet the day it happened, and the DJs were having quite a laugh at Rosenhaus's sudden adherence to principle (and quite a non-sequitur at that – it would be like boycotting an Austrian radio station because you don't like Arnold Schwarzenegger's gubernatorial policies). Obviously you're not going to have a written source for something like that – who on earth would have recorded it? (If TEAM1040 has an audio-vault, you could find it there, but I don't think they do). Unless Rosenhaus has a website spelling it out, this is obviously something he thought privately until he brought it into the mainstream by refusing an interview with a very standard sports station. (How you conclude that TEAM1040 is a "small" station is beyond me. I somehow doubt you've conducted studies on its market share in Vancouver... they're not huge, because it's an all-sports station, but it's significant in absolute terms in a city of 2 million people). Moreover, the DJs took note that Rosenhaus's view had been expressed on Wikipedia. It's clearly something he believes in, so keep it in. I don't see the problem. J21 06:25, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: J21:  It cannot be reinserted based on your explanation.  Wikipedia is not to be a source for original resource.  If it has not been reference in any credible media, there's a reason for it: they too were either a.) unable to verify it; or b.) considered it greatly trivial; or c.) both.  Finally, my description of the Vancouver station was only meant to contrast it with the fact that DR appears on Fox Sports, ESPN and very large sports media outlets.  In comparison, it's small.  And I fully understand that wikipedia is a global, not just a U.S., outlet, but this person and his business are U.S.-based.  Vancouver doesn't even have a team, so media based there becomes somewhat less relevant and less high profile.  Bottom line, though, is that this is a sourceless paragraph and, even if you had a transcript of the DJ statements, it's baseless without a response confirming or denying it by DR, which would probably exist in any maninstream media coverage of this.  MiamiDolphins3 14:32, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Personal Beliefs

message: Do we really need a quotes section simply for something he said repeatedly during one press conference?  I think it's unnecessary, but I'll refrain from removing it until I some other opinions. --TopGear 17:20, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree it should be removed. It was already been mentioned in his biography section. It is just plain redundant to have a section devoted to it. --Oskar Mayer Nguyener 21:56, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: :See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Miami mafia.
Discuss. Uncle G 16:45, 13 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Are there numerous references in the national media? There are only two provided in the article which are blog postings. These blog postings are not even about the supposed Miami Mafia - they are about Rosenhaus - which is the whole point. There is no magazine or newspaper article from a reliable source that explains what it is exactly that these people do and which notable people (besides Rosenhaus)are in this group. If you read Wikipedia:Verifiability You will see that Sources should rely on reliable, third-party published sources with a reputation for fact-checking and accuracy . These blog postings do not meet this standard. But the main point for me is, if this group does nothing, and contains nobody who is notable apart from Rosenhaus, what is the point of having an article on this suposed group ? -- No Guru 18:22, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Strong Keep (response) I understand your general point.  The article, in my view, has some value because the name is a source of common reference and there are a few articles referencing it, whether or not you consider those adequate (the one is from FoxSports).  I think if it gets deleted now, we see further references down the road and maybe further developments and the article then becomes fully justified and almost a glaring oversight that it didn't exist already.  Clearly, a lot of people in this group collaborated and not just to help Rosenhaus, but to change some of the very dynamics of how deals get done in the NFL.  On that basis alone, it's notable.  MiamiDolphins3 20:35, 23 November 2006 (UTC)

text: Can you identify anybody besides Rosenhaus who is in this group ? -- No Guru 21:52, 23 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger 

message: Ben Roethlisberger is not a client of Drew Rosenhaus.  Leigh Steinberg is Roethlisberger's agent.
NFL-Agents.com lists Leigh Steinberg as Roethlisberger's agent.
RosenhausSports.com does not list Roethlisberger as a client.
Sfbarron (talk) 22:23, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ben Roethlisberger is not a client 

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