Talk:Everton F.C.

message: He's English but has a Welsh flag next to his name 2A00:23C8:A050:2B01:28A2:44D1:18B7:F4F2 (talk) 10:25, 9 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Thelwell nationality?  

message: The page is inconsistent on whether Everton should be treated as a singular or plural noun. The common rule in British English is that football clubs and other groups, including musical bands and political parties, are a plural. This is how British people talk, whether or not it confuses Americans. I've seen it argued before that a football club as a corporation is singular while as a team it is plural, but this isn't common use in reliable British media:
BBC: "Everton are set to be the next football club to be added to the global stable of Miami-based investment firm 777 Partners - but what should fans expect?" - About Everton as a corporation, plural
BBC: "Everton have lost all four home games this season" - About Everton as a football team, plural
Guardian: "Despite Moshiri’s now stated intention to depart, Everton are reliant on the support" - About Everton as a corporation, plural - one of 42,000 results for "Everton are" in the Guardian
Certainly, wording like "The following season, Martínez led Everton to the last 16 of the 2014-15 UEFA Europa League, where it was defeated by Dynamo Kyiv, whilst domestically finishing 11th in the Premier League. Everton reached the semi-finals of both the League Cup and the FA Cup in 2015–16, but was defeated in both" is very jarring and the kind of wording I only see when I click on a news article using a wire from an American press agency.
I am not doing the changes myself as it would probably lead to edit warring unless there is consensus in this section. Unknown Temptation (talk) 11:23, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Through digging the fossil record, the changing of plurals to singular was done in June 2019  "in accordance with rules". Quite what rules, I don't know, but the user who did it has been blocked indefinitely for lack of communication and misleading edit summaries. Unknown Temptation (talk) 11:37, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I would say that the club/team is treated as plural in basically every context.  Saying "it was defeated" is totally and utterly wrong.  The only sentence I can think of off the top of my head where it might be acceptable to use the singular is "the club was founded in 18[whenever]".  I don't think "the club were founded" sounds right in that context, personally -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 11:46, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  Plural is correct in British English, singular is American English (though it's also common in some other countries such as India). Should be "Everton have won" not "Everton has won". Joseph2302 (talk) 18:31, 4 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singular/plural 

message: On the latest update regarding FFP breaches, the date mentioned is in the future. Xboxsponge15 (talk) 18:27, 16 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date ahead of current date regarding FFP branches? 

message: There is reference to the breaches by Everton on this page that say it is in progress, it has now occurred. Add outcome of first points deduction appeal, 6 points taken instead of the 10 on 26 February 2024. Outcome of second breach hearing, 2 points deducted on 8 April 2024.
See sources here https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68723109#:~:text=26%20February%3A%20Everton's%20first%20penalty,23%2C%20takes%20place%20this%20week
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11671/13110930/everton-points-deduction-what-now-after-further-two-point-deduction-with-toffees-set-to-appeal
https://www.premierleague.com/news/3788486 Jake2000000 (talk) 16:28, 9 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Jonathan Deamer (talk) 19:18, 19 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2024