Talk:Cluster (band)

message: This entry isn't giving any justice to Cluster in the slightest. Cluster are not simply a footnote to Kluster!
:You're absolutely right, though since this is a wiki, feel free to improve the article yourself. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 04:48, 11 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The album cover of Soweisoso with a picture of Cluster was deleted by an editor who claimed it was not fair use.  I have written Achim Roedelius of Cluster to obtain a new photo or else explicit permission to use the Soweisoso cover. Caitlynmaire 19:33, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's true, the album cover would be fair use in the Sowieso article, but not in the Cluster article (unless we do get permission).  By the way, nice work on this and the other Cluster articles! -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 19:42, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Photo and Fair Use

message: I have been corresponding with Hans-Joachim Roedelius of Cluster.  We should have some photos and audio samples to add soon if all goes well.  Caitlynmaire 18:12, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Photos and Audio Samples To Be Added

message: This article has been removed from the GA nominations list yet no information on whether it passed or failed is posted anywhere.  Generally, when an article fails, the author is given a week to correct any problems.  I would have liked that opportunity if anything is still missing for GA status.  Caitlynmaire 17:27, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Review?  What Happened?

message: :GA review (see here for criteria)
#It is reasonably well written.
#:a (prose):  b (MoS): 
#It is factually accurate and verifiable.
#:a (references):  b (citations to reliable sources):  c (OR): 
#It is broad in its coverage.
#:a (major aspects):  b (focused): 
#It follows the neutral point of view policy.
#:Fair representation without bias: 
#It is stable.
#:No edit wars etc.: 
#It is illustrated by images, where possible and appropriate.
#:a (images are tagged and non-free images have fair use rationales):  b (appropriate use with suitable captions): 
#Overall: 
#:Pass/Fail: 
Looks like someone already did a review of this and you addressed the comments, but I'll give you a few more:
#The lead needs to conform to WP:LEAD. Specifically, it should not introduce any information that is not in the body of the article, such as the acts that they have influenced (maybe this can be included under "Musical style?"). Also, the leads needs to touch upon every major point (ie. heading) that is mentioned in the body of the article. So a brief summary of the history is required in this case (less brief than what you have now).
#The discography should be listed in two columns - see Wade Mainer's discography for the syntax (you don't need to use the headings, I just mean for the column syntax). Same with the "Core Members" vs. "Collaborators" headings (after you move the section, see below). Each heading, in this case, should have its own column.
#In the lead you reference something using a Wikipedia entry – since you're linking a specific fact within that article, you should use the citation for that fact that the article you're linking to uses. For example, if person X claims to have influenced by Cluster on their Wikipedia page, then use the citation that person X's Wikipedia page uses for that claim.
#The references need to use citation templates or some other format that includes, at the very least, the author of the source (if available) and the last date of access.
#Remove the redlinks in the infobox and the "Collaborators" section, or create at least a Stub for all of them. Large amounts of redlinks are frowned upon in the body of the article, and prohibited in infoboxes
#I suggest renaming the "Overview" section and placing its contents below the "History" section, as it would improve the article flow. 
#Some statements require inline citations, including some that seem ORish without them:
#:"The diversity of styles on the various Cluster albums, with significant changes in musical direction from one release to the next, makes it difficult to categorize Cluster's music. The factors which are present on all 13 albums include the use of electronic instrumentation, loops, and the use of unexpected sounds to create a sense of experimentation." (Musical style)
#:All of "1971-1972 (Early Works)," as right now only the quote is cited.
#:The first and third paragraphs of "1973 - 1976 (Harmonia and Zuckerzeit)"
#:"Roedelius also began releasing solo material during this period, beginning with Durch Die Wüste for Sky in 1978." (1976 - 1979 (Eno and Critical Acclaim))
#:"Cluster's 1979 release Grosses Wasser was produced by ex-Tangerine Dream member Peter Baumann and once again featured a wide variety of styles, including some of the most avant-garde material since the demise of Kluster, particularly during the middle section of the title track, which occupied all of side 2." (1976 - 1979 (Eno and Critical Acclaim))
#:Everything under "1980 - 1981 (Curiosum)" after the first reference. This is also a good example of where a lack of proper in-line citations is detrimental to the neutrality of the article: "Cluster's 1981 release Curiosum lives up to its name, with the seven tracks of offbeat and unusual melodies."
#:All of "1982 - 1989 (Solo Projects and Other Collaborations)"
#:All of "1989 - 1997 (Later Works)," since only one quote is referenced (Another good POV example: "In 1989 Cluster reunited to the delight of their fans")
#:All of 1997 - 2007 (Second Hiatus)
#All one-two sentence paragraphs need to be expanded or merged with the surrounding paragraphs, they cannot stand alone.
In order to allow for these changes to be made, I am putting the article on hold for a period of seven days, after which it may be failed without further notice. In addition, please note that this is only a preliminary review, and that I may have more concerns for you to address (for example, I will be checking all the references) during my second pass. Please allow yourself adequate time to address possible future concerns (ie. don't wait 6 days to do the above), as the hold will not be extended upon commencement of the secondary review. Thank you for your work thus far. Cheers, CP 04:01, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  2.  Changed as suggested Caitlynmaire 15:23, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  3.  I've replaced the documents WikiLink with an external citation.  The other two will be done as soon as time permits. Caitlynmaire (talk) 20:28, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

text:  4.  Changes being made gradually as time permits.  Some are already in place. Caitlynmaire 22:31, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

text:  6.  I've received some help here as someone else has recently written articles for Gronland Records and Paul Fox. I simply had to make corrections to to my links.  I will be continuing the process of adding relevant articles as time permits.  I also have removed some red links.  Caitlynmaire 22:31, 29 October 2007 (UTC)

text:  7.  Changes being made gradually as time permits together with item #4,  Some of the citations you asked for are already in place.  Caitlynmaire 22:31, 29 October 2007 (UTC)
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