Talk:Chakotay

message: Warning: Spoiler for episode Endgame
I'm pretty sure the grave in Endgame listed Chakotay's birth and death as being 2326-2394 (it was previously listed as 2329-2394 on the article). Also, I removed the date of death, since that grave came from an alternate timeline and it is very possible that Chakotay's death would occur at some other point in the new timeline 23:10, 6 Nov 2004 Q0 
Where did 2404 for Chakotay's death come from? I know Endgame took place in 2404 during the future scenes, but Chakotay's grave in that episode was listed as being 2394 (but still, that was an alternate timeline). Where did the 2404 come from? Is there evidence from somewhere else in the show that that is the date of Chakotay's death? Q0 15:16, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Endgame

message: I've noticed wiki-articles on Star Trek characters refer sometimes to the novels. They are NOT canon, and CANNOT be part of the trekverse. So many conflicting and complicated back stories end up in the hundreds of Star Trek novels, it's ridiculous to pick and choose what to add to a wiki. Even if they make sense, any references to novels should absolutely be removed.
Canon does not determine noteworthiness. This is an encyclopedia, not a guide to what is canon about a particular character. For instance, if there were a fan fiction involving Chakotay that somehow inspired a real life group of people to revolution, that would have a place in this entry (absurd perhaps, but you get the point). 66.193.18.4 (talk) 23:22, 16 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-Canon Novel Reference

message: Any way (or place?) to include it? It's 47-A-612.  Trekphiler 15:43, 18 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Serial Number

message: Where is this refrenced in the series?  The only place I ever remember seeing this is on a non-cannon ST:CCG Card. EnsRedShirt 08:34, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Valjean 

message: There's a mention of Admiral Chakotay in DS9 S1 - any relation?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.194.179.181 (talk) 14:01, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no way of knowing definitively but it is unlikely. Dlabtot (talk) 22:08, 24 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Nope, that's Chekote. Junuxx (talk) 02:23, 11 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Admiral Chakotay 

message: I have added a quality assessment rating and importance rating to this article. Feel free to change them as the article improves! Also, feel free to add more issues to the list below, and strike them out (strike) when they're completed. — OranL (talk) 03:39, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment

message: Is the characters 'real' name, 'Chakotay' or 'Amal Kotay'? 
Please see the above discussion.
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I haven't seen the episode in question, though I have difficulty believing that the writers would introduce a "real name" in a single episode while he was in disguise. The memory alpha article implies that it was a false name. Unless you can find a reliable source to suggest that his "real name" is Amal Kotay (interview with writer etc) we should not be including it based on a single in-universe reference. Wikipedia is not meant to be the truth, just verifiable.
Oh, by the way, would be good to expand the rfc to explain the situation a little more, whilst remainnig neutral. Worm 13:49, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As I mentioned on User Talk:Dlabtot talk page, there is no relevance to the character's 'real' name, it's not something that we can decide at Wikipedia, no matter how much comment we have. I attempted to change the question to whether or not the importance of this 'real' name is sufficient to have in the article, but have been reverted. I'm not sure what the purpose of this RFC is. Worm 16:40, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  The purpose of the RfC is to resolve the dispute over whether the article should state: "His real name is Amal Kotay, as revealed in the episode 'Workforce: Part 1' ".  Thank you for your interest. Dlabtot (talk) 16:53, 26 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the name of the character played by Robert Beltran on the series Star Trek: Voyager? 

message: The phrasing "that culture" implies that there is only a single Native American culture throughout North and Central (or even South) America, which is frankly ridiculous and offensive. This phrasing really needs to be changed, but I can't come up with a satisfying alternative right now. Any ideas? --Florian Blaschke (talk) 00:53, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry to offend - it wasn't intended. I've removed both instances of "that culture" and rephrased the line in the lead. Miyagawa (talk) 10:49, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: JFTR: I'm German and have no Native American affiliation at all, only a general interest in the subject, so I was not personally offended. However, the amalgamation of hundreds of cultures into an undifferentiated, stereotypicalised, romanticised mass of Other is a sore spot for Native Americans, as the Americas are no less diverse than Eurasia culturally and ethno-linguistically, and this is also apparent from the criticism parts of the article: Chakotay is designed as a generic Native American stereotype (even treating North America and Central America as the same cultural area or exchangeable!), and many real natives did not like this superficial, patronising kind of pandering at all as it merely perpetuated old stereotypes instead of enlightening the viewer. 500 Nations was intentionally named like this to underline that Native American nations are not merely "tribes" and their languages not mere "dialects", but that the difference between Sioux and Navajo is no smaller than that between Spaniards and Finns. --Florian Blaschke (talk) 17:10, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Native American culture 

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