Talk:Navagraha

message: "A graha is basically anything that can lay hold of,control another thing,object.It refers mainly to sprits or spiritual beings or entities. The Navgrahas are nine (9) such entities.According to the astrological treatise Prasna Marga there are many other spiritual entities called grahas or spirits.All (excepting the navgrahas) are said to have been born of the anger of Lord Shiva or Rudra.Most grahas are generally malefic in nature but there are a few that are/can/maybe good according to the named treatise above.I will at a future date and time give the exact reference in the said treatise. Prasna Marga by Dr. B.V.Raman,published by Motilal Banarsidas Publishers Pvt.Ltd.Delhi,India.
 
Also in the book called The Puranic Encyclopedia, under the heading Graha Pinda, a list of such grahas(spirits or spiritual entities,etc) are named,given that are said to afflict children,etc. Also in same book in various places names of spirits (grahas) are given like Skhanda graha that is said to cause miscarriage(s), The Puranic Encyclopedia by Vetam Mani,Published by Motillal Banarsidas Publishers Pvt. Ltd.Delhi,India.
 
Thus The term graha though in this contexts applies to the nine (9) planetary dieties,spirits,spiritual beings-entities,etc.The term mostly refers to any spirit(ual) force in general as attempted to be explained in this editing."
The text above was added by an unidentified user User:200.108.6.182. Though referenced, I am not sure if this is true. I would like the uploadeder to clarify more about the subject.
Also anyone else knows about it. Please add info.--Redtigerxyz 11:06, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other meaning of Graha????? 

message: There is also a stotra in the praise of the Navagrahas. 
"Namah Sooryaya, Chandraya, Mangalaya, Budhaya cha,
Guruhu, Shukra, Shanibhihi cha Rahuve, Ketuve Namaha"
Some people believe that by chanting this stotra, man is relieved from all his sins and bad effects that may occur due to these grahas on him.
A general mantra for Navagrahadevataaya : 
"Aum, brahmaamuraaris-tripuraantakaari, bhaanuh-shashi, bhoomi sutau buddhashca, gurooshca-shukrah shani-raahu-ketavah, kurvantu sarve grahaah shaanti-karaa bhavantu". 
This mantra is associated with Brahmaa and the nine planets (grahas). Brahmaa is the Lord who controls the nine planets. This mantra calls for him and the nine planets to relieve the ill effects of the nine planets in general. You can chant this mantra for at least 7 times a day.''
The above slokas were removed from the article by User:Danny. About the inclusion of slokas, a discussion is started by me on WP:HINDU, please present your views there.--Redtigerxyz 06:10, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Slokas - to include or to not 

message: I have restored the summary on all the navagraha which an anonymous contributor deleted. The value of having this information all together in one article is to save the user having to enter and exit no less than nine different articles to get even the most basic information, even if that information is duplicated. The information given in the table is simply insufficient, and at least a paragraph on each graha is necessary if this article is to have any value.Neelmack 09:42, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Then shorten the information and add  templates. And please don't refer to me as anonymous, I am IPSOS. IPSOS (talk) 13:01, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Great job IPSOS. considering the present form of the article, I suggest the table be removed and the images and information be put in resp. sub-sections. As a sample, Surya section is edited--Redtigerxyz 13:22, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

text: As no objection was taken, i have removed the table and merged info in resp. sections. The reasoning was that a person had to refer the table AS welll as the section for the complete info of a graha.--Redtigerxyz 13:15, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi me again :). I agree information shouldn't be repeated but it seemed a pity to lose the yantras so I reconstituted a reduced table.Neelmack 20:33, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The Yantras is going into details, let them be in individual articles.--Redtigerxyz 13:28, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Summary on all nine grahas

message: I don't mean to be a spoilsport and I appreciate all the hard work put in to make this article, but it is a little hard to follow, and I am indian. I think it can be made much better, I could help out if some is needed. SiegerKranzMeer 01:48, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Opinion

message: Alternative research and reports of psychics / energy readers affirm that Grahas are independent energy beings causing direct energy influence upon the auras (energy bodies) and minds of beings connected to the Earth (like humans, animals, plants etc.) Each Graha carries a specific energy quality, which is described in an allegorical form through its mythological and astrological references. The energies of the Grahas are getting connected in a specific way to the individual auras of humans at the time they take their first breath in a given nativity. These energy connections remain with the natives of Earth as long as their current body lives. Earth (as an independent energy entity) and its rotation around its axis is an important mediator and deciding factor of how these influences are carried out upon the beings, who are the children of Earth. See more in the Jyotisha Bhavas. Humans are also capable to tune themselves to the chosen energy of a specific Graha through Samyama with that Graha or its presiding deity. The effects of worship of specific deities are manifested accordingly to the layout of their relative energies in a given nativity of a worshipper in question. 
does this have to be in the lead.--Redtigerxyz 13:07, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Para in Lead???? 

message: I am removing the copyrighted Navagraha, which are placed in the article as fair use as they violate "No free equivalent" clause of Wikipedia:Non-free content --Redtigerxyz  Talk  08:19, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Navagraha images 

message: In most of the Templese of India, Navagrahas are not the main deity. for example there might be a Ganesha Temple and Navagraha installed in the same premise. In such cases the nine deities are acually enshrined on a single platform with each diety looking at a certain direction.
Pls let me know if these infomation (about the direction, place etc can be added to the article) Ap aravind (talk) 15:19, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ordering of the Navagrahas in the Temple 

message: Every Navagraha is associated with a adi devataa and pratyadi devataa. pls let me know if we can have a table including them also Ap aravind (talk) 15:19, 18 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. It would be very nice to have this information in a table - the adi devataas and pratyadi devataas. Thanks. NazarK (talk) 20:24, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adi Devataa and Pratyadi Devataa 

message: It has been discovered that this book:
*Gupta, Om. Encyclopaedia of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh. Gyan Publishing House, 2006. , 9788182053892. 
Contains significant amounts of material plagiarized from Wikipedia articles. (Some other books from the same publisher also have this problem). There is no practical way of determining which material came from Wikipedia, and which came from other sources. Further, widespread plagiarism is an indication of poor scholarship. For those reasons, and according to Wikipedia policy, WP:CIRCULAR, I will deleting all citations to the book. However I will not delete the material that cites it, as there's no indication that the material is inaccurate. For more background, see WP:RSN#Circular references: Gyan Publishing and ISHA Books, or the archive after it goes there.   Will Beback  talk   23:16, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Encyclopaedia of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh

message: A lot of the introduction is spent talking about mistranslations into English of Navagraha & graha. It is better to just clearly explain what it does mean, as an article including all the misunderstandings about Hinduism would be thousands of pages long!
Ashmoo (talk) 15:29, 27 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Lead paragraph and 'mistranslations'

message: In the last sentence of the first section of this article it is stated that Pluto revolves around the Sun in a direction opposite that of the eight planets. This statement is false. Said sentence has been deleted.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.162.80.83 (talk) 08:32, 27 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pluto 

message: Rahu and Ketu has been referred to as Neptune and Uranus respectively in this article. These two grahas also referred to as Lunar ascending node and Lunar descending node here. 
Rahu and Ketu are generally referred as Chaya Graha (Shadow Planet). So referring them to Lunar ascending node and Lunar descending node would be correct. However, Neptune and Uranus are real planets and these could not be referred to as Rahu and Ketu. https://www.quora.com/Which-planets-are-called-Ketu-and-Rahu-in-English
Urskarthic (talk) 07:39, 7 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uranus and Neptune 

message: The days of the week in Hindi are named after the Navagraha, shouldn't this be included in the article? Even if it is simply a sentence in the lead section. ViolaTravelCard (talk) 08:21, 12 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Days of the Week 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Navagraha's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "Dalal2010":
From Indra: 
From Budha: 
From Hindu astrology: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 11:38, 4 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Navagraha]]