Talk:Moon Knight

message: It's been a long time but I can remember that first appearance in Werewolf by Night. As I recall, he was just a very good fighter and had no costume or silver weapons before being hired to take down and capture Jack Russell in his werewolf form. The costume and weapons were provided to him by his employer. Was this a secret plot by Khonshu cultist to get Spector to accept the Moon Knight identity?
:I'd say that's speculation at best, unless it's been retconned or explained. --Newt ΨΦ 14:15, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weapons in first appearance. 

message: Hey, this is a call to Newt ΨΦ and BukkWylde.  You both have provided great edits to this site, and I thought I'd ask your opinion.  The Volume 4 section just doubled in size, and it seems (to me, anyway) that it's just a description of the storyline.  I feel like it needs to be condensed.  I know it's hard because the story is still in play, but, hey, why not clip it now before it gets too unwieldy?  Thoughts?  Thoughts from anyone else?
Bhissong 18:35, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry to sneak that in there under your nose, but as you can tell, I agreed.  --Newt ΨΦ 02:17, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Condense Volume 4 

message: When I've got some free time, I'm thinking of going back through my nearly-complete collection of Moon Knight appearances and filling out a lot of the missing character/plot details from this article. 
Does anyone have a problem with this? Is this considered original research, if I draw everything from the comics and don't make any non-factual claims? Should I cite specific issues?
BukkWylde 16:52, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as it's a simple summary, recounting what is actually shown and written, it should be fine. A bit of advice I have for you is to not go into too much detail; this is not supposed to be a substitute for reading the actual source material, and editors will condense overly long material. CovenantD 17:05, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research? 

message: The current version of the article seems to contradict (IIRC) #6 of the first series, where Spector was in a mission on a foreign country and explained to Marlene that his enhanced strength was due to Werewolf's bite and was no longer present. Luis Dantas 15:31, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Any thoughts on enhanced strength?  Wolf bite or Moon God?
Bhissong 17:07, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm going to check this out along with some of my other back-issue research this weekend, but as far as I know the extra strength wasn't really played up until after Spector went back to Egypt and got his new weapons from the priests of Khonshu at the beginning of the second series. There, it was made clear the strength was from Khonshu.
BukkWylde 15:40, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well its a toss up.  In essential moon knight marc mentions that he believes his power came from the wolf, but in the new series its stated that Khonshu gave him that power.  But since its debatable if Khonshu is real or just in his imagination, it can go either way.  JN322 13:02, 29 April 2007 (UTC)

text: IIRC, at least originally the moon strength was due to him being bitten by Jack Russel, Werewolf by Night, although it may have been retconned or something. But that was the original explanation. --Jamdav86 20:09, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Moon Knight is not bitten in the original Werewolf by Night 32 and 33 issues, so if it occurs anywhere it must in in another issue somewhere. --70.26.111.143 (talk) 20:09, 4 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Enhanced strength 

message: Since this story is on-going, it's probably best to keep the details brief and to what we know.  For example, in issue #4 it's unknown if Spector sees the ghost of Khonshu or if he's hallucinating.  So, best to leave it out for know.
Bhissong 23:52, 6 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  I went ahead and left just the first line. I think it explains enough about the effect on the character for the understanding of the arc.  Information about Frenchie can be put in an article about him (if one exists), as this is about Moon Knight, the character. Thoughts? --Newt ΨΦ 00:52, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Bottom 

message: I have removed some bolding and italics from the publication history. I think the bolding was unintentional but i am unsure whether the italics were appropriate or not.
please feel free to correct.
Trugster 16:36, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe the italicized Moon Knights referred to the comic --Newt ΨΦ 17:06, 14 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  italic/bolding 

message: It's notable.  There aren't many Jewish superheroes.  --Newt ΨΦ 19:21, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: However it's not first-line notable. Let's look at the facts. Sure, he's the sone of a rabbi, meaning he's racially Jewish. However he swans about dressed like and worshiping the Egyptian god of Vengeance. Judaism has fallen by the wayside a little, don't you think? --Jamdav86 20:06, 22 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, he's only racially Jewish if his mother was Jewish, but agreed.  I don't know that "Egyptian-themed" is first-line notable either.  We don't put "Spider-themed" for Spider-Man or "Arab-themed" for Dust.  Keep it in the article but remove it from first line. --NewtΨΦ 15:11, 30 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Spector's Judaism 

message: InShanee tagged the Khonshu article 30-Jun-2006, suggesting that it's merged into this one. I've just added a matching tag here, for clarity. --Mrph 20:29, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Reply: Not all that often, and not as much - but he's part of Marvel's standard Egyptian pantheon, who do sometimes turn up in Thor. He's appeared in West Coast Avengers as well (although Moon Knight was a member at the time), directly appearing to characters like Dr Doom. --Mrph 08:27, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Reply - I'm happy to have a go at the stub, if that helps - although I'm not going to have much time for a week or two. If this merge hadn't already been suggested, I'd probably have gone straight down that route. As it has, I figured it was best to formally canvas opinion first. --Mrph 21:58, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Sounds like a plan. Let's see how it goes... --Mrph 19:14, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Khonshu (comics) merge proposal

message: Keep - --Mrph 20:29, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: * Khonshu (comics) is a stub and needs a lot of work, but I think he does deserve an article all of his own. If you follow the link from the article to www.marvelunapp.com, the list of appearances is more that just the usual 'guiding presence' for Moon Knight - he's directly intervened at several points. --Mrph 20:29, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Reply: Not all that often, and not as much - but he's part of Marvel's standard Egyptian pantheon, who do sometimes turn up in Thor. He's appeared in West Coast Avengers as well (although Moon Knight was a member at the time), directly appearing to characters like Dr Doom. --Mrph 08:27, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Reply - I'm happy to have a go at the stub, if that helps - although I'm not going to have much time for a week or two. If this merge hadn't already been suggested, I'd probably have gone straight down that route. As it has, I figured it was best to formally canvas opinion first. --Mrph 21:58, 27 September 2006 (UTC)

text: Sounds like a plan. Let's see how it goes... --Mrph 19:14, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: Closed awaiting changes to article - I'll start work on expanding the Khonshu article and see what I can do. We can then revisit the merge debate at a later date, after that's been done. --Mrph 16:57, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Decision

message: Hmm. Does Moon Knight really warrant inclusion in that category? Charlie Huston has commented on similarities and differences, yes, but... opinions? --Mrph 19:28, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm strongly of the opinion that it's not warranted. As a longtime fan of the character who understands the comparisons and is somewhat annoyed at the presumptions non-readers of his comics might instinctively have of viewing him as an ersatz of Batman, it's really not relevant to a Wikipedia article on the character, regardless of who stated an opinion on the matter in an interview. At best, it might be vaguely relevant to the "Reception" category? But in general I really don't think it belongs period. --Kavono 00:45, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a significant part of the character. Wizard interviewed a writer of the 90s series and a sizable portion of that article was about how the writer purposefully tried to distinguish them. Argento Surfer (talk) 14:57, 29 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Batman pastiche?

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Bhissong 16:44, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While I'm inclined to agree with some of the edits, I think it would probably be a good idea to leave mention of Konshu's appearence and/or interference in Spector's life in The Bottom story arc. --63.203.5.6 23:47, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Forgot to sign in when I posted the above >.< --Junior612 23:50, 31 January 2007 (UTC)

text: And it's been re-added.  Nice summary, Bhissong. --63.203.5.6 01:35, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Continuing Effort to Condense as per Wiki guidlines

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message: I recently read through a 6 issue Moon Knight comic labeled: Fist of Khonshu: Moon Knight.  And the story of it had little to do with what this article says.  In issue 1 he did get strength from Khonshu and all new gear, but the Avengers never showed up and it never showed him parting ways with Khonshu.  He dealth with Anubis, a bad scientist, Morpheus, Bluebeard, some assasins, and a drug dealing cult.  Marlene did leave him and he quit being Moonknight, so Frenchie wasn't around as much (but still helped and offered help)... But that's all.  The 6th seemed like any other issue, not even an ending.  So...  Were there 2 Fist of Khonshu comics?  Or did all this stuff come from other Marvel Comics around the same time?  I looked at this article and was greatly confused by it...  So right now I was wondering if the article is a bit misleading, or if there was another Fist of Khonshu.  Either way it seems like something does need a slight change.  -- MaxDuo (talk) 22:18, 15 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Different Fist of Khonshu comics? 

message: In a recent issue of Moon Knight that currently escapes me, there is a reprint of two werewolf by night issues. In one of these issues Marc Spector is spelled Mark Spector. Is this the same as the Peter Palmer incident or is this just a mistake in the reprint?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Doeswhateveraspidercan666 (talk • contribs) 10:29, 5 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Mark Spector?

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message: In the 4th paragraph under Publication History it states
:"Marvel followed up the series with Moon Knight – Fist Of Khonshu by Alan Zelenetz and Chris Warner, a six issue mini-series that established Moon Knight as suffering from schizophrenia due to the stress of his various aliases"
This is the only mention of schizophrenia on the page while there are several mentions of multiple personalities including 2 mentions of dissociative identity disorder and 1 mention of multiple personality disorder. From what the character history states, I am not sure if Marc Spector has both schizophrenia and DID or if someone has mistakenly called his DID schizophrenia (it's a very common mistake). I know absolutely nothing about MK so I leave it to someone else to either correct or elaborate. Thank you.
--Ichi shiroi tora (talk) 04:38, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not familiar enough to say for sure - I've only read 5 or 6 issues of Moon Knight - but my guess is that the answer varies depending on the writer. Disorders like these are frequently confused/mislabeled/poorly portrayed in comics and other fiction. Argento Surfer (talk) 12:42, 5 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Schizophrenia? 

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message: His info box lists him as having "Increased strength, endurance, and agility depending on the lunar cycle". I think this should be either removed or come with clarification that these are FORMER powers he used to have, given the last time he was shown with these abilities was while he was in the West Coast Avengers in 1989 and later comics explicitly state that he no longer has powers.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.20.4 (talk) 23:06, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  No longer having powers  

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thread_title: Image deletion nomination(s)

message: Comic Book Resources according to them the cinematographer confirmed Oscar Isaac as Moon Knight is that a reliable source to you guys?0Detail-Attention215 (talk) 16:18, 7 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disney+ casting source 

message: Hey team, just want to point out that Moon Knight: Fist of Khonshu counts as Volume 2, but Vengeance of Moon Knight does not count as a Moon Knight Volume. Additionally, the Legacy issues do not count as a separate volume, but a continuation of Volume #1. I know it's weird, but I don't make up the volume rules. Check here: https://marvel.fandom.com/wiki/Moon_Knight_Vol_6. Latest Volume is #9. Rachelskit (talk) Rachelskit (talk) 21:42, 30 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Volume Numbering

message: In the text , however Egyptian is linked to Ancient Egyptian deities, moon god is linked to List of lunar deities and Khonshu is linked to a small paragraph in List of Marvel Comics characters. The article for Khonsu the Egyptian Moon God, isn't linked at all. So, the linking is bizarre. This needs addressing. Govvy (talk) 09:42, 18 January 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The Marvel Comics Khonshu is different from the mythological Khonshu, so the link is correct. InfiniteNexus (talk) 03:35, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contextual linking 

message: So the wording of vol 2 seems a bit rough ... The specific issue has to do with the word remain... The previous discussion seems to indicate that Marc did not want to remain with the avengers because the moon god influenced his decision to join. 2600:387:15:512:0:0:0:5 (talk) 19:23, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  last sentence of moon knight vol 2 

message: What, no love for the Moon Roach (and his alter, "Kevitch")? 174.91.55.111 (talk) 17:34, 28 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cerebus parody