Talk:Rock-cut tombs in ancient Israel

message: I could hardly slog through this text.  It needs to be redone.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 216.191.169.117 (talk) 13:41, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Low Quality 

message: This text quite blatantly accepts and presents Biblical passages as fact without proof or context. The entire text needs to be revamped.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.227.69.133 (talk) 08:57, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Where?  It mentions that Jesus was laid in a specific Sepulchre which, regardless of whether or not you believe the story, is what happened according to the bible.  Whether it happened to a real guy or a fictional character or a fictional account of a real guy, etc...doesn't really matter. - 76.105.16.71 (talk) 03:45, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Biblical assertations without historical sources or proper verification

message: Sepulchres and rock-cut tombs generally are found in a variety of cultures. As this article refers solely to one such culture, I've changed the name to reflect this. Jimmy Pitt talk 13:09, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I totally agree. But you were apparently reverted. I found this article, as it was a redir of the Sepulchres-article, which is completely unacceptable, IMO. haven´t people heard of, say, Petra? Huldra (talk) 23:32, 3 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hi, Huldra. Sepulchre was redirected to Tomb in 2010. For unclear reason, the talkpage of Sepulchre was not, and I fixed that now. Is there anything else here that needs to be taken care of? Debresser (talk) 18:02, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Gosh, this was actually funny. Sepulchre was redirected to Tomb, yeah......but I was talking of  Sepulchres (notice that plural!)....which until some moments ago actually redirected to this article......  (I think the Byzantine court must have been easy to navigate..compared to Wikipedia...)  (Thanks for your redir!)  Cheers, Huldra (talk) 20:02, 4 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:  I see. Thanks for that. Debresser (talk) 11:47, 5 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Article name

message: Then we could remove from here all the general info - but not before that, since it's not covered anywhere else. Jewish burial redirects to Jewish bereavement! Nothing about the past. We still don't have anything on the Diaspora and modern evolution. Once we do, we can link for instance Old Jewish Cemetery, Prague and Jewish Cemetery in general and much more,. Arminden (talk) 18:21, 12 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  We need a separate article on Jewish burial types throughout history 

message: The chronologically early books of the Bible narrative are not useful as a source for "history". The proof follows right away in current article text: Abraham is non-historical, and even those who try to place him in a historical or archaeological period, land in the Bronze Age, so not as done here, in the Iron Age (see Cave of Machpelah). Apples and oranges, the usual mess. Arminden (talk) 15:18, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genesis (Bible) is not a historical source 

message: The rock-cut tombs are in East Jerusalem, which is not recognized as Israel today; and they were in the Kingdom of Judah thousands of years ago, not the Kingdom of Israel. Therefore, the title is wrong; suggestions would be moving either to Rock-cut tombs in ancient Palestine or simply Ancient rock-cut tombs. Dan Palraz (talk) 13:43, 1 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not necessarily, see my comments at "Intro reflects total ignorance of evolution": neither Canaan nor Palestine are more suitable, but "ancient Israel" needs defining for enWiki purposes. It's being widely used. So are ancient Egypt/Greece/Rome, and none of those is sharply defined. Israel means, more often than not, "related to the descendants of Jacob/Israel, i.e. the 12 tribes, according to the Bible". This makes it perfectly fine, no less than your choice for sure, which came in with classic Greek parlance at the earliest (Herodotus). Ideally this should be linkable to a specific page, but Wiki is still far from ideal. Arminden (talk) 20:06, 8 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title is wrong