Talk:Shōrin-ryū Shidōkan

message: Something major that is missing from the Shido-kan article is what the style is like.  Things like kata, kumite, and sparring should be written in a new section.  Also, conditioning (Hojo undo) should be mentioned and probably created as a new article as well.  In the basement of Iha's dojo, he has several makiwara, iron clogs, gripping jars, weighted levers, weights, punching bags, spring poles, and a tree-like striking pole (not sure what the name of this is).  (The pictures are from the Fair Lawn Shido-kan dojo - not Iha's in Michigan.)  Keep in mind that a lot of what you will find on the web (in English) is unique to Iha's style, and may not be generalizable to all of Shido-kan.  --Scott Alter 06:39, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The basement is very cool.  Wish I had my house basement like that. Tkjazzer 07:03, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

text: If you can find a video that is not copyright, go ahead and put up.  Otherwise, you're on your own to make one :)  --Scott Alter 02:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  About Shido-kan style 

message: Shido-kan Argentina contains all Shido-kan kata with a brief description on bottom of page.  --Scott Alter 05:33, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kata 

message: Naihanchi should we link this in the kata of similar name? Tkjazzer 04:52, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  should I link this in 

message: Some of this article is getting WAY to detailed, there is no need to list every kata taught any where, a brief description of the style of fighting and significant requirements for grades is enough, the spread section needs to be summarized, i.e when did it arrive in an areas (Europe, middle east, n. America etc.) the dojo & coach in each country under is own heading is too much for an encyclopaedia article. --Nate 08:48, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Kata has been moved to Karate kata, where kata from several karate styles is listed.  I will reduce the headings under Spread - it kept expanding and I agree is now too long.  Any suggestions whether to a) make it just a few paragraphs, but keep in chronological order or b) create new sub-headings of Spread for each continent and group the countries into paragraphs (no longer strictly chronological) or c) something else.  --Scott Alter 23:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I like it long. The best articles on wikipedia are the long ones. 207.151.243.101 23:54, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Length and detail are two different things.  This article is getting long with few details (from my 1 sentence sections).  I will not remove any important content, rather condense it.  The kata could be moved back in, but I'll leave it out for now.  The article is also missing many important sections about how the style is practiced.  --Scott Alter 00:07, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd suggest writing it a as narrative prose, keeps the information but makes it easier to follow. That's why I didn't attempt it, I don't know the back ground well enough to turn what is essentially a bulletted lists into something useful. It's also worth remembering that as an encyclopaedia is an isn't meant to be a definitive guide just an introduction & overview. p.s. on the BJJ article I did something similar for an art I know more about it after copy editing it's been quiet stable (ignoring an edit war), that may give you some ideas. --Nate 08:47, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Level of detail 

message: ===A few questions that, when answered, may help to improve your Shidokan article===
"How is Shidokan different from other schools of karate? Does it have a signature stance or technique? Does it have any unique kata? Does it lack any traditional techniques or kata? Does it have a particular emphasis in punches, kicks, grappling, footwork, blocks, or any other area of martial arts? Does it have any unusual training or conditioning techniques? Are its philosophical underpinnings at all unusual? Why did its founder choose to differentiate it from Kobayashi Shorin-ryū? 
Answering any or all of those questions will drastically improve your article. -Toptomcat 13:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  copied from user page talk 

message: "How is Shidokan different from other schools of karate? Does it have a signature stance or technique? Does it have any unique kata? Does it lack any traditional techniques or kata? Does it have a particular emphasis in punches, kicks, grappling, footwork, blocks, or any other area of martial arts? Does it have any unusual training or conditioning techniques? Are its philosophical underpinnings at all unusual? Why did its founder choose to differentiate it from Kobayashi Shorin-ryū? 
Answering any or all of those questions will drastically improve your article. -Toptomcat 13:37, 1 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: A few questions that, when answered, may help to improve your Shidokan article

message: I was reading an article about this style and it said, "Kata, along with a strong tanden and the makiwara, forms the heart of the most basic and advanced lessons in Iha Sensei's karate." This is from Sensei Mark of Holt.  I looked up Tanden on wikipedia but it redirects somewhere else.  Thanks! Tkjazzer 22:04, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  what is Tanden? 

message: I don't think the sentence about the 8th Dan's virginia dojo flows well (EDIT: was a vandal entry - nvrmnd).  Maybe we should have a separate section for major Shibu dojos in the United states.  The rest of the U.S. subsection is only about Iha Sense - it doesn't flow well in to the next line.  Tkjazzer (talk) 00:06, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nevermind, I see that the person is not even on the shibu list; 
My VA dojo is still on the Shibu Dojo list, just a different name. I haven't gone anywhere. I just gave up on editing this 11 years ago. ----Robertoshidokan (talk) 18:15, 25 March 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't think major dojo should be listed in the article.  How would you define a "major" dojo?  There are too many shibu dojo to list them all, and this would make the page more of a list than an encyclopedic article.  If anything could be mentioned, maybe the states in the US that have dojo.  --Scott Alter 03:34, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  shibu dojo?