Talk:Guanxi

message: I think this article could benefit from including some empirical results. These don't have to be experimental studies, but perhaps the article could include information from scientific observational studies on the topic. Or, if such information is included, then clarify this by pointing it out within the text of the article. 10outta10 (talk) 03:16, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Lack of Empirical Evidence

message: I don't think this article shows Western Bias now after the recent edits. Nice work. 10outta10 (talk) 03:16, 23 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It isn't "western bias" to link guanxi to corruption -- this is regularly done in China, and to support this better in the article I've added references to that section with two Chinese academics talking about exactly this issue. The "criticism" section is completely unnecessary -- you can't "criticize" a word for its definition! Thanks for your comments, though, they've prompted two good citations. shannonr (talk) 19:43, 12 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Laced with Western Bias 

message: ::These types of words are called 'antagonyms' or 'contranyms'. JPF 06:36, 26 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Hopefully that's much clearer in the current version. Shannonr 05:11, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

text: It's still the one concept.  It's just being used for either good or evil. LegendLength (talk) 08:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Linguistic complexity of 'Guanxi'

message: :This piece should be re-organised under the title 'Linguistic complexity' and invite more discussions on comparing 'Guanxi' in other lanugage.
It seems to me that Guanxi is similar to "Wasta" (Arabic) in the Middle East. See http://isam.bayazidi.net/archives/2005/06/bel-wasta/.
-Westonmr 07:19, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be great if that could be linked up in the new "Other Cultures" section, but I can't find a "Wasta" article on here! Can anyone help? --Shannonr 06:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Having "good guanxi" would seem, on the surface, to have some of the same meaning as saying you had a good rapport with someone. However, rapport would be a poor translation. You could have excellent guanxi with someone you had poor rapport with, and vice versa. --Shannonr 06:38, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guanxi compared with Arabic Wasta 

message: This piece should also put underneath the title of linguistic complexity. Please Shannonr reorganise it User:Next2apple
Is there some page that lays down a standard on when pinyin with tone marks, pinyin w/o tone marks, and italicized pinyin terms should be used? The pages devoted to Chinese terms seem to be all over the map on this.--Daveswagon 06:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the Template:Chinese does a good job of putting all the transliterations in one place, so I've incorporated it into the article. --Shannonr 07:30, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Romanization and pinyin use 

message: I just deleted the following paragraph, as it seems NNPOV and is unsourced: "Business Context of Guanxi: This concept has been often practised by modern corporates in Korea, Japan, Thailand and China. In the modern business world, Guanxi integrates all the supply chain partners of a business model, working towards efficient operations and effective offerings. A lot of learnings from Guanxi, subtly put in practice by the South East Asean companies (except India and Gulf countries) has been one of the main reasons why we get the most cheap and sophisticated products from these countries. The JIT and Kaizen models developed by Japanese can never be implemented unless there is a healthy Guanxi practice in the business environment." Motmot 14:40, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree - good deletion. --Shannonr 06:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Guanxi in business 

message: I've just completed a fairly major edit / shuffle / sectioning of this article. Hopefully it reads more clearly now, and includes more detail on some of the more interesting aspects of this cultural concept. Comments,謝謝！ --Shannonr 06:57, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Major edit and sections

message: I've altered the introduction to expand the description of Face. It is not just Lian, but a combination of both Lian (moral component) and Mian (the prestige component). I'm new to Wikipedia so I'm unsure how to link to existing articles. Feel free to help out there! - Nick  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 121.222.97.246 (talk) 03:05, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Cultural complexity of 'Guanxi'

message: I've found two usages (both negative) in "big" newspapers, and added them as citations in the appropriate area. Would be great to have more... --Shannonr (talk) 00:23, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Some discussion in , although it's not the focus of the article.  It talks about the importance of exchanging cigarettes.  71.41.210.146 (talk) 09:53, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citations

message: There is no indication of the Chinese use of the term apart from the obvious, simple meaning ("connections").  Is it actually used like this in China or is it just a Orientalist buzzword used by "China watchers"?  The article cites few sources.
The discussion above about guanxi being interpreted both good and bad, suggests that the word itself is rather bland in the Chinese context.  The terms "connections" or "friends" or "family" can take on sinister connotations in English when linked to corruption and criminality.--Jack Upland (talk) 09:58, 5 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a large literature on the extreme importance of Guanxi in Chinese culture. The relations to "nepotism" and "connections" are basically what Guanxi looks like from the viewpoint of an American businessman who doesn't actually get that other cultures work differently, and thinks it is unreasonable that he has to establish a guanxi relation withsomeone in order for them to do business with him.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 20:02, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I reccomend this one: ·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 20:05, 30 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable 

message: Organize “Description and usage” section better
 		Define it more specifically as a construct? (Gu, Hung, Tse)
Expand “usage examples” section
New subheading: guanxi - performance link 
                A. guanxi with business partners 
                B. guanxi with government authorities 
New subheading: Effects of guanxi on organizational performance
                A. Examples of companies counteracting guanxi’s effects: https://hbr.org/2004/04/when-good-guanxi-turns-bad#
                Note that parts of this article can be applied to Part II
New subheading: Positive and negative outcomes of guanxi practice
                A. Positive outcomes
                B. Negative outcomes
                       1. Reciprocal obligations
                       2. collective blindness 
Bibliography
Luo, Yadong, Ying Huang, and Stephanie Lu Wang. "Guanxi and Organisational Performance: A Meta-Analysis." Management and Organization Review 8.1 (2011): 139-72. Print. 
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.1740-8784.2011.00273.x/epdf
Chen, Ying, Ray Friedman, Enhai Yu, and Fubin Sun. "Examining the Positive and Negative Effects of Guanxi Practices: A Multi-level Analysis of Guanxi Practices and Procedural Justice Perceptions." Asia Pac J Management 28 (2009): 715-35. Print.
http://search.proquest.com/docview/899141915?pq-origsite=summon
Yong Cao, Yang Xiang. "The impact of knowledge governance on knowledge sharing: The mediating role of the guanxi effect." Chinese Management Studies 7.1(2013): 36-52. Print.
http://www.emeraldinsight.com/doi/full/10.1108/17506141311307587
Flora F. Gu, Kineta Hung, David K. Tse. “When Does Guanxi Matter? Issues of Capitalization and Its Dark Sides.” Journal of Marketing 72.4 (2008): 12-28. Print.
http://journals.ama.org/doi/abs/10.1509/jmkg.72.4.12
New subheading: guanxi and knowledge governance  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gracewong1 (talk • contribs) 22:01, 18 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed edits to the article  

message: Hey everyone! Gracewong1 and I made some edits to the article with regards to guanxi's application in a business setting. We expanded the "Description and usage" section such that there are two sections on guanxi's context inside and outside of business. We also added a new section and made some more edits to existing parts of the article. 
We want to incorporate the "Usage examples" section into the "Description and usage" section, but currently we have not made concrete plans to do so. As we are new Wikipedia users, we are also still figuring out Wikipedia formatting so, at some point, we will make it so a source of ours that's used multiple times in the Guanxi article will be only listed once in the References section (rather than writing out multiple citations for a single source or using "Ibid." like what we did today).
We're planning on expanding this article more in the near future so if there's anything you want to discuss, feel free to let us know. --Yingooi  —Preceding undated comment added 23:31, 25 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Please would an interested editor assess the material added at User:Yingooi/sandbox, incorporate what is useful, blank that page as WP:COPYARTICLE, and leave a note here when done? – Fayenatic London 07:57, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Edits made on 10/25/15

message: "A common example of unethical reciprocal obligation involves the abuse of business-government relations. In 2013, a CCP (Chinese Communist Party) official criticised the government officials for using public funds of over 10,000 yuan for banquets. This totals to approximately 48 billion dollars worth of banquets per year"
how ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 37.157.32.30 (talk) 12:44, 11 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  10000rmb !=  48 billion dollars 

message: really?    I thought the contact is crucial.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stjohn1970 (talk • contribs) 17:16, 14 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Staying in contact with members of your network is NOT necessary to bind reciprocal obligations.  

message: Please would an interested editor assess the material at User:MGMT90018 2015S2 Guanxi (in Business)/sandbox, incorporate what is useful, blank the page as WP:COPYARTICLE, and leave a note here when done? – Fayenatic London 07:46, 24 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  User draft page on Guanxi in business 

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