Talk:List of South-East European Jews

message: Alexander Beliavsky was born and raised in Lviv, Ukraine. He moved in Slovenia in late '90s.
:True. However, he is now a Slovenian citizen and plays chess for Slovenia, so it is appropriate to list him here. (Regarding his Jewishness, he is listed at the Russian Jewish Encyclopedia. However, this site does not differentiate between people of full and part Jewish ancestry, and contains the occasional error. Hence he is currently marked unconfirmed.) Juko 13:42, 21 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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message: Per standards for X-American lists, people of first-generation American birth are categorized on X-Americans list, not by their ethnic background. Note that Jennifer Aniston's father was Greek-born, we don't categorize her on List of Greeks. 65.10.45.212 16:00, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please provide a link to the relevant Wikipedia policy.--20.138.246.89 16:02, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:WikiProject Ethnic groups/Rules for lists of X-Americans. It is an impossibility to merge X-American lists with their European counterparts as you are claiming. 65.10.45.212 16:07, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text: We do not categorize people based on their ancestry when they are American-born. It is a very simple policy that has been held up on nearly every other list. Do you suggest the merging of List of German Americans with list of Germans? If not, why not? If you wish, we can consult a user who has worked on X-American lists, and they'll tell you the same thing I am. Shall we? 65.10.45.212 16:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Please provide a link to the relevant Wikipedia policy. The opinion of one editor does not make Wikipedia policy.--20.138.246.89 16:41, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Not all wikipedian standards are enumerated. Link me to a policy that says we can add people to a list based solely on their great grandparent's ancestry. They are standards that arise from discussion. If you wish, we will bring several editors to help clear up this mess. Also note that you have broken the three-revert-rule on this page. But I will not bother to report it because that is simply spiteful. 65.10.45.212 16:56, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text: This discussion isn't about who's Jewish, its about who counts as an X-American. Not that it matters, but you clearly made four reverts to my three on this page, so I'm not sure what you're talking about. 65.10.45.212 17:07, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also you missed the point. People born in Greece are a whole different story. I only removed American-borns. 65.10.45.212 17:23, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text: If you agree, I will list this on Wikipedia:Third Opinion. Sound alright? 65.10.45.212 17:23, 2 August 2006 (UTC)

text: You can edit it if you feel its unfair, but I wouldn't do that. 65.10.45.212 17:26, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok its listed. See if its ok. 65.10.45.212 17:32, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to go. You can edit what your position is but preferably leave mine alone. I'll be back later today. 65.10.45.212 17:39, 2 August 2006 (UTC)
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message: I was asked by an anonymous editor to check into the referenced information regarding Pete Sampras. I will make my response here in case the IP is a dynamic one. (By the way, perhaps both of you should register for accounts, having a stable talk page makes communication much easier!) It appears the source of Sampras' quote is from a 1996 interview, which can be found here. In it, Sampras does state that he is 25% Jewish, from his father's side. However, he declines to identify himself as a Jew here, and there seems to be a significant consensus among the Jewish community that only matrilineal Jewish ancestry "counts" toward being Jewish. Finally, the source cited, "standwithus", is of questionable reliability-it is pretty evidently partisan, and I see little evidence of peer review or editorial control. As the information regards a living person, I have removed it per WP:BLP, and would ask that it not be added again unless a better source can be found showing that Sampras has been identified as Jewish by a more reliable source, or has unequivocally self-identified as such. (He certainly would fit on, for example, a "List of people with Jewish ancestry", if such were to exist.) Seraphimblade 01:02, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
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