Talk:Flag of Hong Kong

message: I'm having trouble finding sources to verify some of the content in certain sections, namely these sections: Handling of the flag, Correct display, Showing the flag indoors, and Parades and ceremonies.  Please help find sources for these; the article is undergoing FAC right now.  If no sources turn up in a day or two, I'll probably do an overhaul of those sections, re-writing and getting rid of unverified information.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 05:00, 6 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The link at Note 9 doesn't mention anything about the flag; I've also checked Snow's book, but could find nothing about the flag. Perhaps I've missed something? (btw, it seems that bookreviews should not be used as sources, unless the article in question is a book). Forgive my fussiness. Cheers.--K.C. Tang 08:20, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks like you're right.  It talks about Japanese occupation but not specifically about the flag.  Let's try to find a source that does talk about flag use in Japanese occupation.  If we can't find anything, we can just revise that paragraph or delete it.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 15:13, 9 August 2007 (UTC)

text: I've checked some local history books, but could find no allusion to it. I think that paragraph can go. Cheers.--K.C. Tang 05:02, 10 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need sources 

message: In the image currently display it is written 36.48° while on the page cited as source  in the figure 2 it is written 13°48' that is 13.80° -- AnyFile 17:41, 7 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Angle of the leaf 

message: In the photo included inline in this article, the Regional Flag is on a taller flagpole than that of the National Flag. Is there any particular reason why? I'm rather sure I've read that the Regional Flag shouldn't be flown above the National Flag, and I'm certain that in Golden Bauhinia Square, the National Flag is flown higher.
From where is that photo? JSIN (talk) 12:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's probably a difference in perspective.  If the photographer happened to be closer to the regional flag pole, it's possible that the regional flag would have appeared taller in the photo.  Maybe that's not the best picture to use.  But looking at the Commons library, it seems like that's the best photo we have of the two flags flying high on poles.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 16:34, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Height of flagpoles? 

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message: It seems to me that the flag doesn't look identical from the other side, but as I don't have a flag, I cannot check. Gyro Copter (talk) 12:22, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not a big deal.  I've removed the sentence.  Hong Qi Gong (Talk - Contribs) 16:25, 27 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dubious 

message: http://badcanto.wordpress.com/2012/01/16/the-appearance-of-british-hong-kong-flag-in-dolce-gabbana-protest/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.78.161.224 (talk) 04:32, 29 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Needs section on the unofficial "lion and unicorn" flag, and the continued use of former colonial flag at protests  

message: I have reverted these flags back to the SVGs. This user has repeatedly uploaded PNG flags of Hong Kong to Commons without sources which may be copyrighted, and are therefore not allowed on Commons. These files are up for deletion. Fry1989 eh?  02:33, 16 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  PNG flags by Iman0613 

message: Please slightly change the colour of the 1959-1997 Hong Kong flag so it is the same as the 1873-1875 flag as the Blue Ensign on the 1959-1997 is much darker than other Blue Ensigns and also bring it fully up to Wikipedia standards and also on the same note please can we have a fully recreated 1910-1959 Colonial Flag as it is of very poor Quality as it is not a Wikipedia created flag but an upload from another website and is very amateur standard. (90.197.194.14 (talk) 11:35, 29 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colonial flags of Hong Kong 

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message: Flag of Hong Kong only means the official flag of Hong Kong, past or present. Any other flag is off-topic and should be removed from this article. STSC (talk) 22:47, 4 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag of Hong Kong only means the official flag of Hong Kong 

message: The other wikipedia articles on "Flag of Country X" focus on official flags and don't include speculative or activist gimmick flags: 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_Japan
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_United_States
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_China
(although the flag of China does include one desecration example).  
I tried to remove the speculative / activist flags in this article to try to counter this vandalism / political activism, but it got reverted possibly by the same vandal that added it initially.  
Are there any higher level moderators who can contribute to fixing this given that there may be a concerted effort by Hong Kong or US based rioters / hate groups which are engaging in repeated vandalism here?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.28.236.4 (talk) 14:30, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: If you'd like to drop the accusations of bad faith, maybe there can be a reasonable discussion of what's appropriate for inclusion. Your practice of claiming that everybody's a rioter or a vandal is why you keep getting reverted. Acroterion (talk) 14:35, 12 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is only about the official flag of Hong Kong as stated in the lead. Any other flag is off-topic. IP had the valid reasons to remove those undue flags. STSC (talk) 05:49, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: * Not sure I agree with above since it is not uncommon for articles ostensibly about official national flags to include alternative flags which are used, or have historically been used, by various groups in the society. For example the inclusion of the a Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander flags on Flag of Australia, the proposed flags discussed by the Congress in Flag of India, the examples given for the discussion of the referendum in Flag of New Zealand, the section on unofficial flags on Flag of Spain, and so on. Each of these type of articles reflect the unique circumstances of each entity and comparisons only get you so far. I would argue that these alternative flags should remain on this article until such time as this current flag is replaced, and then they should be moved to the article about whichever flag is current since the discussion is related to proposed flags to represent Hong Kong, rather than alternatives to any particular flag. Kdm852 (talk) 08:23, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Your misleading examples given are in the history of the flags. This article is solely about the official flag of Hong Kong government, not including any other whatever flag related to Hong Kong. By all means you may create a separate article about all the flags related to Hong Kong. STSC (talk) 09:52, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: * What makes you say the examples are misleading? They were intended to show that flags other than the current official national flag are, at least occasionally, included in such articles. The Aboriginal flag is not a historical flag, for example. Likewise the examples of alternative flags for New Zealand are quite contemporary and illustrate my point that each such article is a unique expression of the political environment in each jurisdiction. I see no reason why the scope should be so limited as you describe. Interested to hear what others think, though. Kdm852 (talk) 10:27, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: The Māori flag was created in 1989 and it's accepted now as official flag. I would suggest you create a new article: List of proposed Hong Kong flags. STSC (talk) 10:48, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: * I wasn't talking about the Maori flag, I was talking about the flags suggested in the recent referendum. Kdm852 (talk) 12:59, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: A flag proposed in the official referendum on national flag was part of the official process. That's a totally different issue. STSC (talk) 13:23, 14 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Countering Vandalism or Politically Motivated Editing on Speculative Flags 

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replies: text: All the tagged material has been added since May. This article no longer meets Wikipedia:Featured article criteria. In line with Wikipedia:Featured article review, the first stage of addressing concerns raised on the talk page "typically lasts two to three weeks". I will revisit the article at that time. DrKay (talk) 08:58, 19 October 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  References required 

message: Many details are missing from the construction diagram. If there is a diagram with the entire specification, it would be welcome. JDAWiseman (talk) 14:19, 8 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Construction diagram 

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message: Looking at this one as part of the ongoing FA sweeps.  This article strays from the current FA criteria in several spots.  There is significant uncited text, some MOS:SANDWICH issues, and the validity of the off-topic tag needs to be determined.  If these issues are not addressed, a featured article review may have to occur. Hog Farm  Talk 01:31, 12 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA concerns 

message: This is the flag of 2019 Hong Kong protests, not Hong Kong, and it does not represent Hong Kong. If I also create a flag of Hong Kong, Can it be included in this article？ 梦随飞絮 (talk) 07:02, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I also do not see the relevance of the flags used in the 2019–2020 Hong Kong protests. Why not also add the yellow umbrella flag used in the 2014 Hong Kong protests if the criteria for this article should deviate from other similar articles? This article is titled "Flag of Hong Kong", not "Flags used in Hong Kong". Yue🌙 08:00, 5 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  I deleted the flags using in 2019 Hongkong protests