Talk:Stade Roland Garros

message: This article claims "[Roland Garros was] the first pilot to shoot down five enemy aircraft, and to be called an 'ace' for doing so" but Roland_Garros_(aviator) biography page says "Garros is erroneously called the world's first fighter ace. In fact, he shot down only four aircraft; the definition of "ace" is five or more victories." - which page is correct?
Math2000 (talk) 15:50, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistency about Roland Garros as an Ace 

message: How is this not mentioned at all in this article?  It has been covered by a number of media outlets including the BBC during 2003's Open (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tennis/french_open/1947151.stm)
68.239.234.51 (talk) 19:19, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use as a Nazi holding camp 

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message: An editor who is either unregistered or not logged in and claims to be French tells us that the the o of Roland is pronounced in the same way as that of Garros and says that they are both close. He/she gives this video as an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YRbLIDqbeMM. I have listened carefully to it and I am hearing an open o in Roland and a fairly close o in Garros. French has a true open o, rather closer than the English short o, which in RP is actually a rounded back a. The o in Garros is somewhat less close than I should expect.
I looked for another example and found this page: https://forvo.com/word/roland_garros/. The first example is more or less what I should expect to hear, but again with only a fairly close o in Garros. However, I definitely hear a difference in the quality of the two vowels. Is there a phonetician out there with even sharper hearing than I have? LynwoodF (talk) 16:01, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not a phonetician. Listening to multiple pronunciation websites listed at Google, both O's sound long (and the same) to me. The only difference I can hear is how long you hold the long "O" in each word, with the time-span being less in Garros. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:47, 19 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Vowel length is not particularly important in French. What I am talking about is tongue position and I am hearing an open o in Roland and a somewhat closer o in Garros. There is not a lot of difference, but the first o is not close. LynwoodF (talk) 08:19, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

text: I have found another example which is particularly clear: https://www.pronounceitright.com/pronunciation/roland-garros-5363. Again I hear an open o in Roland and a somewhat closer o in Garros. LynwoodF (talk) 14:49, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: They sound the same to me. Fyunck(click) (talk) 18:14, 20 June 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  The second 'o' sounds a lot shorter to me.--Wolbo (talk) 15:01, 15 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  The vowel length is not significant in French. The first o is open, as in Dutch dok, and the second o is rather closer, more like the o in Dutch hoofd, although the difference does not seem to me to be as great. LynwoodF (talk) 16:20, 15 July 2018 (UTC)

text: I have been listening to French sounds for over 60 years and I have lived in various parts of France. Parisians tend to say [ʁɔlɑ̃ ɡaʁos] and this is what I am hearing in all the recordings referred to above. However, in the south you may very well hear [rolaŋ garɔs] and no doubt there are numerous other regional variations. It is disappointing that other people do not seem to hear the difference between the two sounds, but I can assure you that it is there. I have been looking for an independent example of the name in IPA, but the only one I have found is in the entry on Roland in Wiktionnaire, the French version of Wiktionary. The punctuation is not what is commonly used in the English-speaking world, but the sounds are as I should expect. LynwoodF (talk) 09:28, 21 June 2018 (UTC)

text: Well the anonymous editor has not got back on this, so I am going to change the pronunciation on this page and on two others which he/she also altered. LynwoodF (talk) 13:20, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of Roland Garros 

message: Hi,
Do you think we can improve the article even more by providing better images for Stade Roland Garros and the courts? The images already provided seem too insufficient to portray the entire sports venue. I mean, in comparison to the article on Melbourne Park (the sports venue for the Australian Open), those images seem to capture more of the venue.
Thanks, RemixCMDR
:Looking at Melbourne Park, those photos look the same as this article except Melbourne has one nice aerial view. Does a free image exist of an aerial view of the French Open? Fyunck(click) (talk) 17:33, 25 May 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Shutterstock has some better images than the ones here...RemixCMDR(click) (talk) 20:52, 26 May 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improving images 

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