Talk:Harvard Glee Club

message: Can someone figure out a decent place in opening paragraph to nicely link glee Club.  While I'm sure that to Americans this is a familiar concept, but to the rest of us (bar really old Brits, I think) it sounds more like some kind of scary cult movement. -- Finlay McWalter |  Talk 00:07, August 11, 2005 (UTC)
:done, i think Apollo58 00:14, 11 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Link [[glee club]] somewhere

message: * this tag
*Don't wikilink solo years, ex 1958
*references come after punctuation, ex [1]. should be .[1]
*you can remove 'see also' section as you wikilink the terms in the lead
*references are all laid out differently, please check the  template
*one sentence paragraphs
*Article is fairly list heavy, try convert it into writing
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thread_title: GA Fail

message: There is an ongoing discussion at Harvard about why the Glee Club gets to be called the oldest college choir in the country when Harvard's University Choir is older.  The reasoning that's always used is that the University Choir is NOT actually a college choir.  It is the choir of the Memorial Church, not directly affiliated with the college in the same way as the Glee Club; it is directed by an employee of the Church, not a faculty member, has graduate student and faculty members (and is thus not a primarily undergraduate institution, as the Glee Club is), and has a long history of paying professional singers to be part of it.  Whether this argument holds water in the strictest sense is, perhaps, up for debate, but the fact remains that Harvard's own website identifies the Glee Club as such, as do newspaper articles about it and all of its own press and historical materials (which, I should add, have never been challenged by the management of the University Choir, even though the groups exist side by side).  At one point, this article had a mention of this debate, but it was removed because there's no reliable, independant way to cite the argument I explain above; it's just "the way it is" and until an article about it is written in the Boston Globe and we can cite that, the lead should remain as is. -Apollo58 18:13, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Oldest" 

message: Sorry, there are just too many issues to warrant passing/on-holding.  Here are some:
*Lots of stubby sentences not in paragraphs, like the one at the end of the "The Glee Club today" section (which, incidentally, is a bad section heading and should be changed).  Also in the "Musical tradition" there are a few.
*WP:FURG - 
*Alumni aren't "notable" if they are a redlink.
*"Composers who have dedicated works to the Harvard Glee Club" completely unreferenced.
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*Per Wikipedia:Manual of Style (headings), headings generally do not start with articles ('the', 'a(n)'). For example, if there was a section called ==The Biography==, it should be changed to ==Biography==.[?]
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thread_title: Failed GA

message: There is a contradiction between this article's timeline of conductors and the article on Irving Fine. The Fine article states that he conducted the Harvard Glee Club between 1939 and 1950, when he left to start the music programs at Brandeis. But this is the period when Woody Woodworth was conducting at Harvard, according to the article. Can someone clarify the relationship between Fine and the Harvard Glee Club? -Tjarrett (talk) 00:58, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conductor timeline 

message: I'm not sure this sentence belongs in the lede: "All three groups are led by Harvard's Director of Choral Activities Andrew Clark and Associate Conductor Kevin C. Leong.  The Glee Club's assistant conductor is Michael C. McGaghie." Apart from anything else, it's Wiki policy not to include info in the lede which doesn't appear in the main article (i.e. details of the current associate conductor and assistant conductor). Rather than just delete it, though, I thought I would cut and paste it here in case anyone wanted to work these details into the main article. Alfietucker (talk) 00:24, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Found in lede 

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