Talk:Mieczysław Jagielski

message: Polish Wikipedia is clear: born on 12 January 1924 in Kolomyia. What sources give different d. o. b.? PS. 1924 is also given by WIEM Encyklopedia:  and PWN Encyklopedia: . --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  05:34, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I wasn't aware of the dob stated in the Polish Wikipedia, nor in the WIEM and PWN Encyklopedias.  I drew upon two possible birth years, based upon the day he died, and how old he was when he died.  Terrakyte (talk) 08:56, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Date of birth

message: Where's the reference for him being an atheist? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  19:23, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am afraid I am not sure what you mean.  Are you saying that there was a reference on the article for the fact that he was an atheist, which is now not there?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Terrakyte (talk • contribs) 20:38, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I am saying that there is a category which is not backed up by any references. It is likely that he was an atheist (most prominent communists were), but it is not certain. If there are no refs to indicate his religious views, I suggest removing this category.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  22:47, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I now see you what you meant, and I agree that the category should be removed until a reference can be found to back up the assertion that he was an atheist.  Terrakyte (talk) 00:03, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Atheist

message: I wonder if the article would be good enough for a WP:GAC after the DYKing? --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  19:21, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the article is within reach of meeting the GA criteria, though I think the article needs more info about his early life (childhood, entry into politics, early service in the Sejm), and post-Deputy Prime Minister life, before it can obtain GA-status, though I might be wrong in my estimation of what is needed to attain that class.  I like the idea of nominating the article for GA.  If you also believe the article is within reach/already reached the GA criteria, then regarding when we nominate the article, how about you post a statement on this talk page stating when you feel you have done all you can with the article, and then when I have posted likewise (or vice-versa), the article can be nominated?  Terrakyte (talk) 20:32, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought it might be useful, if you are game for trying to get this article up to GA-class, for me to tell you what I am planning atm to do in order to improve the article:
*Firstly, I have a few more English news articles which talk about Jagielski to a degree for me to go through.  I have found several what I presume to be Polish-language news articles as well.  May I ask if you could look at the Polish-language articles, and get some info transfered to this article, if that is ok?  The link to a list of these articles is here: 
*Secondly, I plan to expand the info in the infobox with information like his service in the Sejm, which Presidents he served under e.t.c.Terrakyte (talk) 20:48, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Unfortunately most media articles are not free. I will see if I can dig any useful information from what I can access. I can access most academic articles for free, but none seemed to contain useful info (there was one photo but of poor quality). Some more photos here: --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  22:55, 20 November 2008 (UTC)

text: It seems all Polish articles are pay-per-view, and further, unlike Google Scholar, Google News does not recognize my university affiliation (or Pitt has not bought the rights to them). If you find Polish text for me to translate, let me know, but I looked at the first few pages of Polish results on GNews and it's all non-free :( --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  23:28, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you for the link to the academic articles, and the photos.  I likewise have not been able to find much out of them.  It's a shame a lot of the news articles that could help us are non-free.  Whatever happened to freedom of information? Nothing much free about it.  :)  Thank you for the offer of translating Polish work I link you to.  Terrakyte (talk) 00:08, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That's why we have to fight for free culture. Long live Lessig! :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  00:09, 22 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GA?

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