Talk:Bedouin

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Awlaad Ali - Note there are three tribes by that same name all are different. Awlaad Ali in Lybia. Awlaad Ali part of Anazah in north-west Saudi Arabia and part of Syria. Awlaad Ali or Ayaal Ali which is a nickname for people who inhabit Qassim Area of Saudi Arabia
Rwalla Many have moved back to Jo Mamma in Al-Jouf province, Turaif and Arar.
Bani Khalid - Also many in Eastern Saudi Arabia.
Murrah - Eastern Saudi Arabia bordering Qatar and UAE
Anazah Traibe - Syria, Saudi Arabia and Iraq.
Shammar -Jo Mamma.
Hajer - Eastern Saudi Arabia
Dhafir - North-East Saudi Arabia
Mutair - Central Saudi Arabia but also stretch out from near Medina to Hafar Al-Batin.
Harb - Western Saudi Arabia but stretch out to the Central region and go as far as Hafar Al-Batin.
Otaiba - Western near Tayef but also extend to the Central region of Saudi Arabia.
Qahtan - there are two tribes of the same name, but are one in origion. in the south of Saudi Arabia and the other in Central Saudi Arabia just south by south-west of Riyadh.
Ajman - Eastern Saudi Arabia
Subai - Central Saudi Arabia
Dawasir - Central Saudi Arabia south of Riyadh.
Yam - Southern Saudi Arabia in Najran area.
There are hundreds more tribes.....
—The preceding unsigned comment was added by Alzaid (talk • contribs) .
:So why does this article focus on the plight of the Bedouin in Israel alone? —Aiden 20:27, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because that was what someone happened to know about, and want to write about. Lack of completeness does not equate to POV. --Stbalbach 20:46, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Tribe names

message: I've expanded this section quite a bit. Enjoy. I may add more on nomad-village interactions at a later date. Fishies Plaice 11:20, 15 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edited "Bedouin Culture" 

message: A widely quoted Bedouin saying is "I and my brothers against my cousins, I and my brothers and my cousins against the world." 
Here is how I heard it:
"Me and my brother on (=against) my cousin, and me and my cousin on the stranger." --SheriKan (talk) 03:04, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beduin Saying 

message: IS there a valid tribe named Bani Johma, as referenced in the article Gharaibeh?  If so, should it be listed?  Viscouse 19:28, 14 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Tribe Bani Johma is one of the tribe migrated from Arab peninsula in the late 14 century. In settled in the South of Horan( north Jordan now). The tribe continued from 14-19 century, before it migrated in different places in Horan رامي الجهماني (talk) 07:54, 24 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Valid Tribe? 

message: This article needs the literal meaning/etymology of the word "Bedouin."  Badagnani 00:12, 25 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have spoken with a friend from Saudi Arabia who tells me that calling these people "bedouin" can be taken offensively by those that are bedouin citizens of Saudi Arabia, because it supposedly refers to or may sound like a different word in Arabic which describes illegal aliens, (e.g. not of the country, and where the government has to deal with them).  He said that the bedouins referred to in this article that live in and are citizens of Saudi Arabia should be called "badu".  This confused me, because that would just be the Arabic word that this transliteration came from in the first place.  Can someone research into this and clarify?  Does the English transliteration actually sound like another word in Arabic that means something like illegal aliens? This is probably an issue where Arabic speakers who are not native English speakers may get confused about the English word. It would be nice for some clarification, however. Mmortal03 (talk) 05:27, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Etymology 

message: Someone clearly defaced this article. I am not an expert on this subject, I just thought it was appropriate to notify someone.
3:57pm UT August 31  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.150.160.171 (talk) 14:58, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Defacing 

message: add this pic to the article
The picture was taken in 1925 of man from Shammar tribe with Asiatic Cheetah ( Fahd Sayyad or Fahd Alrabi)..bedouin use this animal for hunt.
*Where was the picture taken, and where was it found? Also seems like the licensing is wrong. Funkynusayri 17:16, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: picture was taken in the southwest portion of iraq, he is bedouin and before 4 years from taken this picture (Al Rashid)Shammar tribe was rule almost all arabia and part of iraq--Hisham ibn Oamr Alharbi 23:36, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  new pic 

message: Someone has deleted this entire section, which I do not think was warranted, exactly. Certainly, the section needed a lot of work, and needed to be cut back A LOT, and it would have been good to get different sources. However, it would have been much more collegial for the user who did the edit to have edited it a bit himself and come here to suggest that we join in too. At the moment I do not have the time to do the work. Here's the article section before the cut and here's the history.
LamaLoLeshLa (talk) 17:13, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of entire section on Changing ways of life - Israeli case 

message: "especially as hot ranges have shrunk" --Filll (talk | wpc) 15:45, 2 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What does this phrase mean? 

message: I know it's hard to trace the origins of this ethnic group, but wasn't there an origins section just like every other ethnic group gets on wikipedia?
Bedouins are just Arab nomads, what's so difficult to understand? Akmal94 (talk) 23:58, 17 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Origins

message: Isn't the listing of 'Africa' and the 'Middle East' as areas of habitation of the bedouins rather too vast areas to be mentionned? True is however that Bedouin population doesn't follow political borders, but what sort of land are we in atuality refering to when using these enormous pieces of land as reference? A more specific geographical reference should be stated. 83.255.5.252 (talk) 23:26, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  weird 

message: This article uses Occupied Palestine to refer to locations within the pre-1967 Israeli borders. For example, the Khawalid tribe is "located near Nofit" pretty far from the West Bank. That is, this article seems to be claiming that all of Israel is occupied territory. Besides being a non-neutral point of view, that misled me when I came here looking to see which tribes live in Israel vs. Arab territories.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by JeffreyYasskin (talk • contribs) 06:58, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That was due to an IP changing it 6 hours ago, I noticed the change and reverted it before I read this. Dougweller (talk) 07:44, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Occupied Palestine vs Israel 

message: Why is there no mention of the most famous Bedouin?? At the very least an image should be included to improve on the integrity of the article. It's like having an article about African Americans without mentioning Martin Luther King jr. I'm comparing the two men solely on their significance, not on whether we agree or disagree with their actions/beliefs. Lakerking04 (talk) 03:20, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Gaddafi was genetically Jewish and Italian. 86.186.93.14 (talk) 02:37, 5 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gaddafi 

message: Would it not be easier to organise this section by the modern states within the border of which Bedouins currently predominantly reside? Koakhtzvigad (talk) 03:56, 6 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  organisation of the tribes section 

message: I am doing a project on Bedouin...please, I would really like to know more about their housing. If anyone has information, please share it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.27.237.213 (talk) 00:14, 2 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bedouin Housing 

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thread_title: File:Bedouin girl.jpg Nominated for speedy Deletion

message: What is the rationale for this rating? Jarble (talk) 16:55, 8 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: '''Why is this article rated as "low-importance" in WikiProject Ethnic Groups?'''

message: "As for the rest, they live in so-called unrecognized villages which are not officially recognized by the state due to general planning issues. They were built chaotically without taking into consideration local infrastructure."  This is a truly impressive distortion.  Of course everybody knows that they don't have local infrastructure because the state refuses to provide it. Zerotalk 03:51, 29 March 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unrecognised villages 

message: The opening sentence has been changed fromsaying that the Bedouin are an ethnic group to an "ethnocultural" group. According to Wikipedia, the term ethnocultural refers to ethnoreligious groups - ethnic groups which share a religion. As far as I am aware, not all Bedouins are Muslim, so they should be labelled as an ethnic group. However, on the other hand, Christian Bedouins (and the wider Christian Arabs) tend to adopt different Christian/Western-based cultures compared to their ancient ancestors, so perhaps they don't count as Bedouins. In the latter case it would be accurate to label Bedouins as an ethnoreligious group.
No, Saudi Arabian Bedouins are not the same as African Bedouins, Central Asian Bedouin etc. Bedouin means nomad like any nomad it doesn't have any ethnic or racial value. Most people of Saudi Arabia are were Bedouins but all of them are settlers now. The national drees of Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait etc (Keffiyeh and thoub) is a Bedouin dress aka Arabian. It's only has ethnic meaning in Palestine/Israel, but even though the Bedoiuns there look different than those in Arabia and Arabian Bedouin who moved to the Levant. They probably came from to Palestine from Sinai, Egypt. (10/Feb/2019)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.166.158.189 (talk) 06:16, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Ethnic" or "Ethnoreligious" Group? 

message: The first two listings of population numbers (global and Sudan) seem to be inflated, particularly the Sudan statistic. Neither numbers are stated in the links given. Since Sudan has an Arab population of over 30 million, the given number indicates that nearly one third of the Arab population in Sudan is considered Bedouin, which is an improbably high proportion when compared to other predominately Arab countries on the list. Additionally the total population should be a range of estimates rather than the probably inaccurate number listed here.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.11.243.197 (talk) 07:36, 28 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Population Numbers 

message: A bandmember of  Hawkwind has a band called Bedouin
but that is NOT mentioned on this page, like in " other pages"
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPVSMFTG5cw
 quote  album recorded by Bedouin  
 http://www.last.fm/music/Bedouin
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.96.201.236 (talk) 10:43, 13 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hawkwind 

message: So I read the intro, and then the first paragraph ended in this line:
They are traditionally divided into tribes, or clans (known in Arabic as ʿashāʾir; عَشَائِر) and share a common culture of herding camels and goats.
The author of this line then referred to a page that can't be viewed publicly.
Is this a joke? Reducing the culture to just camels and goats?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 210.19.13.229 (talk) 08:28, 25 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Common culture joke? 

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message: There is no evidence that these are Bedouin and the claimed source of these images is not the original source. I can find at least one of these in the Library of Congress collection where it is simply labeled "Meals of Central Asians" and states that the "Photograph shows eight men seated on blanket eating at entrance of tent."
The one with a camel can be found here at another Library of Congress site. Both of these are from Turkestan from the same publication. Doug Weller talk 16:13, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I've changed the description on Commons. All copies of these almost certainly come from the same source. Doug Weller talk 16:30, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bedouin in Central Asia 

message: I wanted to talk about the first picture on the right today because not much people can see the mistake or the "creepeness" in the photo.If you look at the bottom right area of the page, you will see a ghost like picture.I would like everyone including me to know what it is.I would also want it to be deleted because it is scary.It would be a pleasure if you did so.Thanks.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2605:E000:1701:806F:A942:3650:9D54:C88A (talk) 03:57, 23 June 2017 (UTC)
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message: A couple of issues in the Israel/Palestine section
1) This sentence “They are allotted child cash benefits, which has contributed to the high birthrate among the Bedouin (5% growth per year).” - Hopefully this doesn’t need much explanation. This is racist. Added "Citation needed" here but honestly it needs to be deleted.
2) The citation for the above selection comes from an evangelical Christian website whose express purpose is changing the target population’s religion. When the webpage starts with a “Percent Progress” for Christianity conversions, it is very difficult to imagine exactly how they are qualified to speak on any of these issues. Added "unreliable source" here. Recommend removing this source and all information attributed to it.
3) A lot of this section reads from the Israeli government administration/planning perspective. The reader gets one vague sentence about how the European Parliament called for more respect for the rights of the Bedouin people. I find this very one-sided because there is essentially nothing in this section that speaks from the Bedouin perspective. How do the Bedouin populations within Israel feel about urbanization and changing their way of life? Unfortunately, I am no expert in this field, but is there anybody else who is familiar with other potential sources and content we could use here?
Postaltoad (talk) 22:08, 28 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Issues with Israel and Palestine Section 

message: There is no section about religion.   Eg What kind of Christianity do the Jordanian Christian Bedouins follow?  What religious practices do the Sunni Bedouin follow, eg do they rest on Fridays?   What is the practice for becoming engaged and what happens at a wedding?  Can someone who has reliable information please create such a section?— Preceding unsigned comment added by FreeFlow99 (talk • contribs) 13:04, 29 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Religion 

message: In the Maghreb section there's a picture of a man leading a camel caravan. Merzouga is a very touristic city, as are its sand dunes. I think the people riding the camels may be tourists. The nomads don't actually live at the sand dunes. BrianKovo (talk) 22:09, 6 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mistaken photo for Merzouga, Morocco