Talk:Oliver Wyman

message: This is a spinoff of the "History clarifications" discussion, where  wrote that I "added four paragraphs of an incident involving Wyman to their services section as Oliver Wyman#2015 Eskom-McKinsey scandal. You called it "2015 Eskom-McKinsey scandal" - why not put something in the Eskom or McKinsey articles instead, or in addition to? Why just add info to the Oliver Wyman article, when they were a consultant, and not a major part of the incident? Four paragraphs about this here violates WP:UNDUE. Why not fork a new article if you think it was such an important event? And it doesn't belong in the services section - it should be in the history or a new section called notable engagements. Instead, someone looking up their services section will see that it involves scandal." 
My answers to the above questions are as follows:
(1) The Eskom and McKinsey articles both already have information about this scandal- see [] and []. So there was no need to add information there.
(2) Oliver Wyman is a major part of their incident- they wrote the report that ultimately incriminated McKinsey and were credited by South African government officials and international media organizations [] [] They were also propositioned by Trillian. [] 
(3) I found the situation complex and difficult to describe in less than four paragraphs. The key events are: OW being propositioned to by Trillian and refusing, OW being commissioned to investigate the McKinsey contract, the South African government forcing handover of the Wyman report, and charges being filled on the basis of said report. If you're able to describe these events more concisely you are welcome to edit. Forking a four-paragraph article seems rather silly, especially since the paragraphs are <5 sentences. It would be more of a stub than an article by itself.
(4) I believe the 'History' section is about the history of Oliver Wyman as an organization (e.g. corporate/executive decisions, reorgs, acquisitions, mergers, etc) and 'Services' is about individual notable projects. I view 'Services' as functionally the same as 'Notable Engagements', so if you prefer the name 'Notable Engagements' you are also welcome to edit and change that.
(5) I don't want to give the impression that Oliver Wyman was involved in the scandal (obviously they didn't do anything wrong, just wrote a report), but the report is about a scandal. I called this section Eskom-McKinsey scandal because that's how it is referred to in the media. [] It is also sometimes called the Trillian-Eskom-McKinsey scandal, or just the 'corruption scandal' when the context is clear. Again, if you have an idea (for a better name that doesn't include the word scandal while accurately describing what the Wyman report was about) and a source, you are welcome to edit. Pereneph (talk) 21:58, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eskom-McKinsey scandal 

message: This is a spinoff of the "History clarifications" discussion, where  claimed I "created the entire controversy section full of your additions, contrary to WP:STRUCTURE. That's not right and will have to be cleaned up." I created the controversy section after  accused me of having an external relationship with Oliver Wyman.[] and told me that "editing for the purpose of advertising, publicising, or promoting anyone or anything is not permitted." 
I had previous created a "Services" section which documented both positive and negative work by the firm, but after hearing these accusations, I became concerned that the article had a positive bias. I therefore created a controversy section, in line with the articles of other consulting companies such as Boston Consulting Group []. However,  has now accused me of "painting the company in a negative light". I have temporarily reverted the article to its previous "Services" structure, and am opening a discussion as to whether negative work belongs under a general "Services" section, a specific "Controversy" section, or another section entirely. Pereneph (talk) 21:56, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Controversy Section 

message: This is a spinoff of the "History clarifications" discussion, where  claimed I "put in something from 1983, before Oliver Wyman even existed, and made it look like it was an Oliver Wyman incident." I believe Oliver Wyman history goes back to at least 1970, as documented on their corporate website [] Some sources even put the founding year of Temple, Barker & Sloane as 1969 [] Pereneph (talk) 21:30, 15 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Founding Date 

message: Are those included in Notable alumni section truly notable? Furthermore, I would suggest the removal of the Office section which I find of questionable relevance to the article.---Now wiki (talk) 19:20, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If the alumni do not already have articles written about them they are probably not notable. Dormskirk (talk) 19:28, 3 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Noted. I left a few who are not covered by Wiki articles as I can find them mentioned in a few places like Fortune.---Now wiki (talk) 21:48, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

text: I've updated the page with several more alumni. If they don't have Wiki articles themselves, I've included citations where they are mentioned in news headlines. There are many more notable alumni but it'll look clunky if they're all added here. For now I've kept the list to people who have Wiki pages + C-suite (or higher) execs whose organizations have Wiki pages. Maybe a new page should be created for alumni in the future. Pereneph (talk) 09:11, 18 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable alumni & Offices sections 

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message: Hi – I am an employee representative of Oliver Wyman.
 
I would like to propose an amendment to the short description of Oliver Wyman as “an American management consulting firm”. While the firm was founded in the US and is headquartered there, this description does not accurately reflect the business’s international footprint.
 
The short description on this page previously described Oliver Wyman as an “international management consulting firm” until 23 August 2020, when it was changed to “US” by User:Onel5969. This in turn was changed to “American” on 4 July 2022 by User:Felida97.
 
Neither of these descriptions are accurate. Oliver Wyman operates in 32 countries around the world (SEC filing, February 2022). The firm’s non-US work is frequently covered by international press (Financial Times January 2023). And “American” is not the description typically used by media outlets from around the world when writing about Oliver Wyman. For example:
 
“Global     management consultancy Oliver Wyman” – Reuters     (September 2022)
“Consultant     Oliver Wyman” – South     China Morning Post (January 2023)
“Management     consulting firm Oliver Wyman” – Wall Street Journal (January 2023)
“Consulting     firm Oliver Wyman” – Australian Financial Review (May 2022
“Global     management consultancy Oliver Wyman” – Al     Arabiya (February 2022)
 
Please let me know what you think of this proposed change. 168.168.43.230 (talk) 10:53, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Short description of Oliver Wyman