Talk:Translation (Mormonism)

message: This seems to just be a copy of List_of_people_who_went_to_heaven_alive#In_Mormonism. Would a redirect to this subsection be more appropraite? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Mr Minchin (talk • contribs) 15:21, 8 August 2007
:I don't know, because it's clear that the LDS Church teaches that some persons were translated but didn't go to heaven alive. It's more like the list at List of people who went to heaven alive is a copy of what is here, since it includes information about people who were translated but did not go to heaven alive (Three Nephites, John the Apostle). –SESmith 21:34, 8 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redirect? 

message: I don't believe that this article provides accurate information.  "In the theology of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, translation refers to being physically changed by God from a mortal human being to an immortal human being. A person that has been translated is referred to as a translated being. A translated being is akin to a resurrected person with the exception that a translated being has never died."  However,
" 38 Therefore, that they might not taste of death there was a achange wrought upon their bodies, that they might not bsuffer pain nor sorrow save it were for the sins of the world.</br>
39 Now this change was not equal to that which shall take place at the last day; but there was a change wrought upon them, insomuch that Satan could have no power over them, that he could not atempt them; and they were bsanctified in the flesh, that they were choly, and that the powers of the earth could not hold them. </br>
40 And in this state they were to remain until the judgment day of Christ; and at that day they were to receive a greater change, and to be received into the kingdom of the Father to go no more out, but to dwell with God eternally in the heavens." (3 Ne. 28:38-40)</br>
Translated beings are not like ressurected beings, they will be resurected and go through something akin to death, but without pain at Christ's second coming.
Also, "Some of these individuals have been admitted into heaven to await their formal resurrection, while others have been permitted to remain upon the earth until that time."
People that died before Christ's death were resurrected when he died.
" 50 ¶ Jesus, when he had cried again with aa loud voice, yielded up the ghost. </br>
51 And, behold, the aveil of the temple was brent in twain from the top to the bottom; and the earth did cquake, and the rocks rent; </br>
52 And the agraves were opened; and many bbodies of the csaints dwhich slept earose, </br>
53 And came out of the graves after his resurrection, and went into the aholy city, and appeared unto many." (Mathew 27:50-53)
Everyone translated after that will be ressurected at Christ's second coming.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.135.76.177 (talk) 00:52, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article not correct 

message: I have renamed this article to Translation (Mormonism).  This isn't specific to the LDS Church, as the fundamentalists believe this also. I'm not sure what the Community of Christ thinks about it, but I think that most of the theological discussion here has been by Mormons. This name change will better conform with the LDS Naming conventions. If anyone has any objections, we can discuss, and can always move it back. COGDEN 21:02, 2 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name change: Translation (LDS Church) --> Translation (Mormonism) 

message: In the section talking about Anna Lee Skarin, I removed the single sentence that read 'She was readmitted to the church only after her death.' as this is contrary to LDS theology. According to LDS theology, in order to be readmited to the LDS church again, a person would have to repent for the reason of excommunication, attend a disciplinary meeting that would reinstate them, in this case get approval from the first presidency, and get rebaptized. Since the person is dead, they would not be able to attend the disciplinary meeting, or get rebaptized. Determining the state of repentance of a dead person would also stop this from happening. An excommunicated person might be able to get baptized for the dead if approved by the first presidency, however this does not reinstate them into the church. It is believed that this will only give them the rights to accept the ordinance of baptism in the afterlife.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lothimos (talk • contribs) 19:38, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anna Lee Skarin readmitted to the church 

message: If I am not very much mistaken, the suggestion in the Book of Mormon is ambiguous: Mormon is apparantly not entirely sure whether Alma the Younger was translated or simply went missing some other way.  Could we add references to point to views of specific denominations on this matter? -- 80.42.32.236 (talk) 09:57, 17 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alma the Younger