Talk:South Caucasus

message: The map is a little confusing with Russia and Turkey being pink, and Georgia and Iran being light orange. Also, it would be nice to see the capital cities marked. -   calum 16:22, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map colours 

message: The map is misleading. In the Georgia article I read that Georgia is partly in the North Caucasus and partly in th South Caucasus. The map shows only the political boundaries and gives no indication of where the South Caucasus is. 
Also the article does not explain what the South Caucasus is and why it should be considered distinct from the North Caucasus.
I believe that the political, ethnographic and  economic structure of this region is highly influenced by the placement of mountain ranges(ridges), mountain passes, and river valleys. I suspect that the South/North distinction has something to do with this geography and the article really should try to explain that. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.152.136.95 (talk) 15:09, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Georgia's border with Russia runs along the mountain peaks, as such Georgia is wholly within the South Caucasus. Izzedine   (talk) 15:45, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Misleading map 

message: The article fails to present the nature of South Caucasus: There should be clear statement that it is not the southern part of the Caucasus Mountains, but rather it is a geo-political name of three ex-Soviet Republics. Thus, the statement that some of Georgia and Azerbaijan are not in the South Caucasus are to be considered misleading. 
GuggiePrg 19:25, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Idea of South Caucasus 

message: This map erroneusly shows Karachai Cherkess AO as part of Krasnodar Territory, while it was a part of Stavripol T.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.62.94.2 (talk) 20:50, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Errors on the Map 

message: Are seventeen citations on that really necessary? >_< Dextrose (talk) 15:21, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: To counter prolific claims to the contrary, yes. It relates to the continental location. I have some improvements to upload to this article which I will do shortly. Izzedine (talk) 15:46, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Anything that needs 17 citations is bound to be false - and it is so in this case. "Located on the boundary of Eastern Europe and Southwest Asia" - laughable! Meowy 00:14, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Meowy, the original claim with 17 citations (not by me) is for the WP:POINT that South Caucasus is in SouthWest Asia. However, since the region is geographically partially in Europe, there is no alternative to using the word "on the boundary of Europe and Asia". Atabəy (talk) 00:52, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yes, the South Caucasus is a real place 

message: I went ahead and removed what appeared to be repetitive insertions about Iran. For centuries parts of the South Caucasus have been under the rule of about dozen major powers, such focus on Iran is WP:UNDUE. Moreover, many of the links are dead as neither Encarta nor Intute exist anymore. Consequently, they were removed as well.--Damianmx (talk) 18:22, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, there is, its all about Iran this Iran that, only mentions others in passing. A gross overstatement given all the other players involved. It is of note that this information dump came only last year without any discussion.--Damianmx (talk) 18:29, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, in my experience, having SIX footnotes in the first sentence of the lede is a telltale sign of prior POV pushing and WP:BATTLEGROUND tactics. Especially when half those links don't even work.--Damianmx (talk) 18:32, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Again, if information is lacking on some other country's influence in Transcaucasia, feel free to add it. That's not an excuse for removing content on Persia's influence. Regardless, there is no doubt that Persia did have a significant impact on Transcaucasia, so I'm not sure what it is that you are complaining about. RGloucester  — ☎ 18:35, 30 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not see any undue emphasis, the text is merely stating very basic and undisputed historical facts. Also, there is not the required justification given on this talk page for the pov tag inserted by Damianmx - so I have removed it. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 00:53, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: "Some patriotic scholars in the Republic of Georgia, ripping a page from the political playbook of the Saakashvili regime to connect Georgia with (predominately Christian) Western Europe, have likewise shrouded, ignored, and, in extreme cases, even denied eastern Georgia’s and Caucasia’s intimate bond to the Iranian world in pre-modern times." Stephen Rapp, "The Iranian Heritage of Georgia", Iranica Antiqua vol. XLIV, (2009). Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 02:32, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: According to a simple search in Google South Caucasus has 1,820,000 results but Transcaucasia — 394,000 results. It is clear that Transcaucasia is an obsolete term.--g. balaxaZe★ 08:43, 25 November 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Here is a new scholar,  Kathryn Franklin, who has decided that Transcaucasia is not an obsolete term. "Medieval social life in Armenia and surrounding Transcaucasia has been multiply marginalized within historical discourses, imagined both as the periphery of cultural and political worlds centered elsewhere, and through the lens of emergent modern, capitalist subjectivity. Lost within these totalizing conversations are the experiences of subjects who were particular both to their region and their time". . Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 21:53, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:CommonName]] 

message: :The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion. 
The result of the move request was: moved. (closed by non-admin page mover) Vpab15 (talk) 12:15, 15 October 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Transcaucasia →  – The modern name for the region in geopolitical context is "South Caucasus". "Transcaucasia" and "Transcaucasus" are dated, and are seen by the peoples of the region as artefacts of Russian expansionism, since they're apparent calques from the Russian term meaning "beyond Caucasus".
As the key evidence, see ngram, which is now available for 2019 English corpus. It demonstrates that "South Caucasus" surpassed "Transcaucasia"+"Transcaucasus" around 2009, and now leads the field in almost 2:1 ratio. Further evidence provided below. No such user (talk) 13:01, 6 October 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 6 October 2021