Talk:Juvenile court

message: I have edited this article as a part of my Global Youth Studies course at Drake University in Des Moines, Iowa. I have resolved the issues of the article lacking global perspective as well as adding more sources. Nataliedeerr (talk) 16:11, 24 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Changes

message: In all but four states, anyone charged with committing a criminal act before his or her seventeenth or eighteenth birthday is initially processed as a juvenile defendant.
Does this mean that the act has to have been committed prior to the appropriate birthday, or that the charges must have been filed prior to the appropriate birthday? Brownie Charles (talk) 08:47, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for Clarification 

message: " From this perspective, the construction of youth and being young is morphing . . . " This kind of language has no place in a credible encyclopedia. "Construction," a word used throughout the article, has an obtrusively ideological ring to it. Moreover, many readers would not even understand its meaning. The purpose of a Wiki article is not to provide people with an opportunity to parade their familiarity with fad theories of "sociol construction."  Please morph.  Orthotox (talk) 20:49, 21 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Reform the Reform Section

message: "However, serious crimes and repeated offenses can result in sentencing juvenile offenders to prison, with transfer to a state prison upon reaching adulthood with limited maximum sentences, often until the age of 18, 21, 23 or 25."
But not all juvenile offenders have limited sentences, right? Some would even have to stay in a prison without parole like Lionel Tate and John Anthony Silva, who were 13 and 15 respectively when they committed first degree murder at year 2000.
"In all but four states (Massachusetts, Nebraska, New Mexico, and New York), anyone charged with committing a criminal act before his or her seventeenth or eighteenth birthday is initially processed as a juvenile defendant."
I am quite confused with this. If the crime is serious like rape or murder, the juvenile will still be processed in court as a juvenile and not as an adult in these states?
"The normal age of these defendants is under 18, but the age of majority changes based on the state or nation."
I think this works since I heard that the age where offenders are tried as juveniles keep changing from 17, 18, to 20. It is not certain whether criminals at that age should be tried as a minor or an adult.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.51.93.171 (talk) 05:40, 5 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: And then there's Travion Blount, who was 15 when he tagged along with several adults on a robbery, in the course of which a victim was injured by one of the adults. The robbers were all caught and convicted. The adults were all out of prison within ten years, but the 15-year-old somehow ended up receiving six life sentences, probably because being younger he wasn't as savvy about plea bargaining. Our criminal justice system operates like a game show where defendants are expected to wheel and deal and guess what's behind Door Number Three, and ignorance and inexperience are taken advantage of with sadistic glee. It's sick. --MopTop (talk) 16:58, 5 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions 

message: With the purest intentions,
--Kekeo1121 (talk) 11:35, 24 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reform 

message: Besides the issues noted by others above, this article fails to address the other important purpose of a juvenile court: to supervise the removal of juveniles from households in which their parents are incapable of providing a functional parent-child relationship. Because juvenile delinquents often come from such households, many juvenile courts have been involved in child custody issues from the very beginning. --Coolcaesar (talk) 19:11, 28 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Child protective proceedings do not necessarily fall under a juvenile court. Michigan, for example, hears juvenile delinquency proceedings and child protective proceedings through the family division of the circuit court. Also, this article is international in its scope, even if presently heavily focused on the U.S., and it is important to generalize the manner in which a given state or states organize their courts and assume the same to be true internationally. Arllaw (talk) 03:37, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Correct, but Illinois, the pioneer in this field, puts both juvenile delinquency and abused/neglected/dependent children under the Juvenile Court Act.  California and Washington also take the same approach too.  I think it was in the In re Chantal S. case where the California Supreme Court pointed out the fundamental difference: family court is for adjusting the relationship between two adults (including related issues of child custody and visitation) while juvenile court involves the state stepping in as parens patriae.  Anyway, juvenile law is not my area of expertise, so it is unlikely I would personally make such revisions.  --Coolcaesar (talk) 14:51, 29 July 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  This article is a mess 

message: — Assignment last updated by User78632 (talk) 15:33, 10 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Legal Research

message: The entry focuses on juvenile courts but only presents information about the juvenile court system in the United States. However, the establishment of juvenile courts varies from country to country due to legal, social, and cultural factors. To address the issue of lacking a global perspective, more information about juvenile courts from around the world needs to be added to the entry. As a graduate student studying WRIT6002 Writing for the Digital World at the University of Sydney, I have researched relevant laws regarding juvenile crime in China and added a subsection titled "Juvenile Courts in China." Iris10086 (talk) 11:52, 24 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change