Talk:Rafael Benítez

message: Sorry, but I´m working with this article. The name of the wife is wrong. In the article says that she is named Maria del Montserrat. It´s only Montserrat. Another thing I don´t understand is adding (interim) in the info box (I don´t know if I´m calling this box in the right way, sorry)because his short time in Chelsea. I think that there is another examples of coaches that didn´t stay long in their teams and this adjective is not added in his info box, so...¿maybe there are a bad intention? I think it should be removed, at least from the box, maybe keeping the reference in the text to explain the critics. Sorry for my poor english, I hope you understand and I´ll wait for an answer. Many thanks
MalachiConstante (talk) 10:16, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Name of Rafa´s wife and other possible changes

message: The info in Senior career have a mistake, Rafa never played for Guardamar on loan. This should be erased, you can check his career in his website, for example, and there isn´t any Guardamar team in 1981: http://www.rafabenitez.com/web/in/background/career/1/11/ Could be erased? Thanks
MalachiConstante (talk) 09:59, 12 August 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Rafa in Guardamar?

message: The article refers multiple times to Benitez "leaving" Inter which seems to imply that he left by choice.
It also completely fails to mention that he was fired due to poor performance and a poor attitude toward to board.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.210.241.216 (talk) 15:27, 17 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Leaves Inter?

message: According to football pundit Tohari Paijan, Rafael Benitez is at present the best manager in the Premiership[1]. Is this worth keeping in the article? If no-one disagrees, I'll remove it... NuclearFunk 17:53, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't have thought so. I removed it when it was first inserted, but it was put back in. Frankly, where LFC are concerned, I would have expected quotes from closer pundits than one in Singapore! -- Arwel (talk) 18:01, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  I removed it, so now let's just wait and see what happens. I don't see any justification for that quote belonging there... Perhaps in LFC's article-section concerning their popularity...NuclearFunk 18:17, 13 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Best manager?

message: In response to requests for better article, I have written a more extensive account of Rafa's career. Hope u approve. User Djln--Djln 22:20, 12 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Re-edit

message: The problem with this being that Benitez isn't a quality manager anyway, so no-one in Italy actually wanted him.. This comment sounds like personal opinion. Should it be kept in the article? This paragraph also referred to Liverpool as RS, which is an abbreviation for a derogratory term for Liverpool frequently used by Everton supporters, which I have corrected. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.229.142.47 (talk) 21:25, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comment on quality of Rafael Benitez' management 

message: Rafael Kennedy Benítez Maudes (born 1991, Madrid, Spain) is a Spanish football manager and former player. He is a short, round and fat boy, who was an unaccomplished football player.He broke the record during the 2007/2008 season by scoring 100 own goals in professional matches. In February, he fell down as he tried to kick a ball, first time in 10 years.
Someone's clearly messed with this page, but I don't have the facts to put the right information in. I'd take a guess that he isn't 16 though. BlackbeltMage 06:58, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Looks like vandalism to me... reverted Vanoord 08:28, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age, description, and everything else in the first paragraph 

message: Tidied up somewhat to try and make it a bit more coherent.  The Real Madrid speculation doesn't really fit, so I've moved it into its own section - although I'm not sure deletion wouldn't be the best thing for it.
The focus of the season looks like being the Champions League, so that has been left in detail and the remainder made a bit more concise. Comments about Everton being a 'small club' are old news and not really of any note. Vanoord 18:43, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  2006/7 Season 

message: Why on earth was my peice on Rafa's new beard deleted? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 172.212.35.158 (talk • contribs) 00:41, 1 July 2007
: Ignoring the relevance of the section, surely it would make sense to make it accurate considering the beard was seen about a week before the Torres signing when Sissoko signed his new contract? LFC.tv.  Tarff 15:34, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Beard 

message: The column on the right says he's 5' 7", that can't be right surely? (Dunno how to sign, sorry, erm 10.30ish pm/Sep 11th 2007/Emma. Will that do?)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.129.250.14 (talk) 21:29, 11 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rafa's Height 

message: The picture of Rafael, I find hilarious. Is it really the best picture of him available to wikipedia or was it choosen by one of his enemies? :) 89.129.188.41 19:03, 30 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture of Benítez 

message: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/7252400.stm & http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/l/liverpool/7251312.stm are worthy of inclusion. I am hesitant to work them into the article as other edits have been reverted.Londo06 13:10, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure what the first one has to do with Benitez. As for talk about his commitment to the club: media talk about managerial jobs happens weekly; why should Benitez' article become the exception that has to mention it? If you don't like the guy, that's fine, but he's still the manager of Liverpool. - Dudesleeper /  Talk 15:25, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Photo 5 "Reds boss Rafael Benitez is under pressure as his team chase their last chance of silverware"Londo06 16:46, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The BBC have the right to their opinion, as do you, but it doesn't mean it belongs in a Wikipedia article. Until the Liverpool board state that his job is under pressure, you should move on from the subject. - Dudesleeper /  Talk 06:01, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Recent edits

message: I do believe it's time to spoil the broken-record IP user's fun and protect the article for the foreseeable. - Dudesleeper /  Talk 14:55, 23 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Protection

message: I normally resign myself to a degree of recentism. The last few seasons are always likely to have more content, and if it's true and well sourced I'm not against it. HOWEVER, the article uses less than a line to describe Valencia's European double season. I don't (necessarily) think the Liverpool sections need trimming, but there needs to be some perspective here. That was his second biggest achievement (after 2005 of course). 82.5.72.161 (talk) 20:10, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Valencia section needs a bit more

message: Should the article not include something on this? Benitez has spent more money than any other manager over the past 4 years, bar Mourinho. He's spent almost £200m on players. I think this should definitly get a mention.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 92.3.20.133 (talk) 22:07, 4 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a source for it? --Ged UK (talk) 06:11, 5 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This factoid, even if true is largely irrelevant as it's more significant how much the club has spent rather than any specific manager. The figure seems inflated even if the higher price thresholds of undisclosed deals such as Mascherano and Torres are taken into account. Besides, I can't believe that he's spent more than Ferguson either in light of Carrick/Rooney/Hargreaves/Berbatov/Nani/Anderson et al. Also, the term "trying to buy the premier league" is a little ridiculous as Chelsea and Manchester United have spent far more on their first teams anyway: A point underlined by Liverpool's inability to match the success of their rivals. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 11:14, 7 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Benitez trying to buy the Premier League

message: The comments made by Benitez in his interview regarding Alex Ferguson are not an outburst as described, they were comments
Definition of an outburst = A sudden, violent display, of activity or emotion
The comments were neither sudden or violent, so I would request the word Outburst changed to comments to maintain factuality.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.25.157.153 (talk) 19:07, 29 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Bizarre is a very POV word, it's a matter of opinion whether it was bizarre or not. And it was hardly unprompted, he had a piece of paper with the information on when he came to the press conference. --Ged UK (talk) 13:48, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I think "outburst" usually carries negative connotations anyway, I'm thinking of tabloid style uses: "Swearing outburst/"Racist outburst"/"Nazi outburst"/"Violent outburst". While Benitez's comments were unusual, especially for him, I think using "outburst" may be getting carried along with the tabloid reporting of the event and so-called "mind games". Even the opinion pieces of more perceptive parts of the press recognize this as such. Sillyfolkboy (talk) 13:35, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Then be bold and change what you don't like. That's what wikipedia is all about! --Ged UK (talk) 17:20, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outburst changed to comments please 

message: Has he got a brother called Steve? Seems coincidental that Steve Benitez managed to win Danny Blanchett a surprise trial at Liverpool?--EchetusXe (talk) 14:14, 8 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family? 

message: I'm sorry? Liverpool did finish 2nd didn't they. They were the closest challengers to Manchester United therefore they were title challengers in the 2008-09 season.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.47.2.163 (talk) 18:02, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title Challengers and runners-up 

message: Edited it out. Boils (talk) 21:33, 18 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sabotage 

message: "Despite the capture of England right-back Glen Johnson from Portsmouth, who made an encouraging start to the season after a £18.5 million move,[30] the money gained from the sale of Alonso and other fringe players was less than Benítez' expenditure. This prompted discontent amongst considerable sections of the club's fanbase who believed Benitez was not being backed sufficiently in the transfer market"
I'm guessing it meant to say transfer income was more than transfer expenditure as the two sentences seem at odds with each other?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.124.240.121 (talk) 13:58, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  2009-2010 section 

message: Link to Rafael Benitez career management stats at www.liverpool-kop.com is now dead & can/should be removed
94.8.46.212 (talk) 02:52, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The link was not dead just redirected to a newer post which I have now linked to. --Jnorton7558 (talk) 03:56, 28 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 28 November 2011 

message: Can someone please add some paragraph breaks. The current layout is awful!!
86.180.184.28 (talk) 22:50, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 30 May 2012 

message: May I suggest a "Reaction of Chelsea fans" segment. Never before have so many fans been so angry at the appointment of a manager of their club. Within 24 hours of its creation a "Say no to Rafa" facebook group has 70 000 members who are planning a march against him before his first match. This really should be mentioned as it is a milestone in English football. He has slated off Chelsea fans in the past and will not be welcomed at the club.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.217.237.168 (talk) 17:34, 24 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reaction of Chelsea fans 

message: Please add Benitez's first win as a Chelsea manager in the Premier League(3-1 against Sunderlan at The Stadium of Light)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/20564679
--Rhic Chowdhury (talk) 12:09, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: ★☆ DUCKISJAMMMY☆★ 15:02, 9 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 9 December 2012 

message: Please change the word 'interm' in the following line:
On 27 February 2013, following Chelsea's 2–0 victory at Middlesbrough in the FA Cup fifth-round, Benítez heavily criticised the Chelsea board for giving him the title of "interm manager" and the Chelsea fans for their protests against him. He also confirmed that he would be leaving the club at the end of the season.[68]
to 'interim' because this is the term that was used, as can be seen in the link (68) and in other areas of the article. I believe the original was a typo.
Damonli91 (talk) 23:19, 15 May 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Done - with this edit. Thank you for pointing it out. Begoon talk 00:25, 16 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 15 May 2013 

message: I have twice reverted this edit.   The first sentence should give his professional occupation, which is a football manager - and then go on to say that he is a former player.  The second sentence should then give the detail of his current employment.   The suggested edit gets the balance the wrong way round.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:11, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt it.  Anyway, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a good argument.  And, even if you think it is, you should not edit war.  If you are reverted, you should discuss on the talk page - WP:BRD.    Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:25, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:   If you look at articles about managers you will see TeaLover1996 Lets talk about it 22:30, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: .  Please address the points raised in my original post, above.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:57, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opening sentence 

message: Most pages about managers say the same as what I put in the article, that's why I put it there. TeaLover1996 Lets talk about it 22:23, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I doubt it.  Anyway, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a good argument.  And, even if you think it is, you should not edit war.  If you are reverted, you should discuss on the talk page - WP:BRD.    Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:25, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text:   If you look at articles about managers you will see TeaLover1996 Lets talk about it 22:30, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: .  Please address the points raised in my original post, above.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 22:57, 27 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  3RR 

message: Can we discuss this move by User:Tiller54? I see that WP:COMMONNAME issued as the rationale for this move, but as far as I can tell, English-language media use "Rafael" on first mention. "Rafa" is used sometimes in headlines, where brevity is preferred, but not in body text. I'd like to revert the article back to Rafael but want to make sure there aren't objections. Mosmof (talk) 22:50, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: This page move is controversial and should not have been ade without a requested move (in my opinion). I am also most used to Rafael in media and that is his actual name. I support the move back and if the editor wants it moved to "Rafa" a WP:RM should be made. QED237 (talk) 23:02, 15 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rafael vs Rafa 

message: | manageryears10      = 2013– 2015 |managerclubs10 = Napoli
IsmettL (talk) 09:22, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done Do you have any source confirming he has actually left? Qed237 (talk) 12:15, 29 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 29 May 2015 

message: Rafa Benitez has been sacked as Real Madrid manager
106.51.31.74 (talk) 19:05, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: . Kante4 (talk) 20:59, 4 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 4 January 2016 

message: Buoyed by the Club World Cup victory, he told the European champions to back him with new signings or consider whether they wanted to keep him as coach, despite the side having won the treble only a few months earlier.
This needs to be changed, it is simply trying to imply that Rafa had won the treble, he didnt, it was Mourinho. Weasel words and pov, change or delete please  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.135.236.49 (talk) 12:02, 20 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  edit request 

message: I would like to edit the managerial statistics Lillico30 (talk) 10:35, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format.  —  IVORK Discuss 10:45, 21 March 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 March 2017 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: LoveVanPersie (talk) 05:21, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Linguistics#Broad IPA Edits - your transcription disagrees with Help:IPA/Spanish to which this template links. Mr KEBAB (talk) 13:57, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 August 2017 

message: LoveVanPersie (talk) 08:43, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Done jd22292 (Jalen D. Folf) (talk) 12:28, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 22 August 2017 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Shouldn't all mentions of Dalian Yifang be changed to the clubs current name Dalian Professional? 
GunvoltKong (talk) 16:31, 17 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yifang to Professional 

message: Leeds United 2023- 2A00:23C7:3420:401:D092:D6CC:64DE:EA3 (talk) 13:43, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 14:15, 15 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 15 February 2023