Talk:Murder of Polly Klaas

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message: User:71.239.125.15 has added the NPOV tag to the Winona Ryder section. Is there any reason for this? I can't see any judgment calls there that aren't well sourced, and when I re-wrote the section last week I saw many more essentially identical sources that I didn't bother to cite. The user didn't leave a comment here so I wanted to ask here before I removed the NPOV tag. Wellspring (talk) 00:18, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: i can't speak for 71.239.125.15, but i think a problem with it is that it diverges too far from the actual topic of this particular article. if the focus is upon the murder of polly klaas, then these peripheral details, many years later and not directly related to the events, seems out of place to me. the details may be salient to the winona ryder article. to this article....i don't think so much, no.Anastrophe (talk) 00:58, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Undue weight makes sense. Fine by me, so long as any material left is well sourced. In its previous iteration, the text was deeply flawed factually. I wouldn't object to abbreviating it. Wellspring (talk) 06:38, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

text: If it's factually correct and neutrally formulated, I absolutely think it's relevant to this article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Looskuh (talk • contribs) 14:56, 2 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  OK it's been more than a month with no complaints, the originator of the tag never spoke up, and the section seems factually correct, neutral and well-sourced. So I'm clearing the tag. Wellspring (talk) 14:32, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

text: doh, i just reverted the removal requesting discussion here, before seeing this. however, i disagree that the POV issue is resolved. the mention at ryder's shoplifting trial really doesn't belong in this article. it belongs in the winona ryder article. it has no direct relevance to the Murder of Polly Klaas. Anastrophe (talk) 18:02, 21 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  NP, if there's still something to discuss let's hash it out. I'd agree that it doesn't deserve significant weight; however, I think there's probably a good case to be made for mentioning it. I considered editing it down a bit, but I can't really do it without biasing the account one way or another. The main issue is that it's a notable element of the fallout, both from Ms. Ryder's direct and public participation and Polly's father's involvement. Things like this are mentioned in our other articles all the time, and this is fair, neutral and well-sourced. I'm not married to this position, but my feeling at the moment is that it should remain. Wellspring (talk) 01:55, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: i think the matter actually falls less under the aegis of NPOV as it does under notability/weight, particularly for this short an article. again - within Winona Ryder, it may deserve some mention. for this article, it devolves into trivia. however, i'll see if i can trim it further as a compromise. Anastrophe (talk) 02:17, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: well, i stripped it down as best i could, and now it's a "whopping" 113 bytes shorter. but it is a simpler declaration of the details. i dunno. i pulled the tag, since really it wasn't a POV issue. bigger scheme of things: this is not worth any more effort by anyone! Anastrophe (talk) 02:27, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think your edits are great. Taking the time to perfect it is a worthy endeavor. :)  Wellspring (talk) 14:39, 23 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV?

message: A minor, but important, point is that she is a murder victim.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.0.108.153 (talk) 04:36, 5 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I have now fixed it. Griffinofwales (talk) 23:43, 25 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually as she is dead she "was" a murder victim.  This entire article needs to be re-written to make it less colloquial and emotive.Royalcourtier (talk) 08:55, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Is vs. was

message: The article states that the killer was charged with a lewd act with a child, yet there is no other mention of this in the article. Also, the article states that the victim was killed "promptly" after the police encounter, which would indicate little possiblity of lewd activity. Can we get a reference or clarification? Sephiroth storm (talk) 00:42, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed "promptly"  — DocOfSoc • Talk •   02:33, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Lewd act?

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