Talk:Lake Tai

message: This page needs more info on the geography of Tai Lake, especially relating to the Tai Lake basin (e.g. how it was formed, distinctive features etc).
Bohaskan (talk) 12:31, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geography 

message: Not only does the grammar and logic need to be fixed, but there are too many opinions here. Save that stuff for Wikitravel. dq 17:01, 25 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: This page's treatment of the lake's admittedly epic pollution problem is sketchy at best and dangerously party-line at worst. See New York Times article "In China, a Lake's Champion Imperils Himself," in Asia International Oct 14 2007, by Joseph Kahn.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 211.12.197.249 (talk) 04:22, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  POV 

message: I'd suggest that "Taihu Lake" is not a correct name of this article. The name Tài Hú literally means "Grand Lake" in Chinese (Tài for "Grand" and Hú for "Lake"). Naming it "Taihu Lake" will cause a redundency in the literal meaning ("Grand Lake Lake" ?).
I'd suggest that "Lake Tai", "Tai Lake", or simply "Taihu", can be appropriate names of this article.--supernorton 05:21, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur. dq 18:16, 1 March 2007 (UTC)

text: I think this page should be moved back to Taihu Lake. This is the usage by the newspaper China Daily. Although, a correct literal translation into English would be "Lake Tai", Taihu lake is used more. Ocedits (talk) 09:53, 20 April 2008 (UTC)

text: The correct name in ENGLISH i[s] Lake Taihu, as accepted by United Nations rules and Chinese official naming conventions. This is the same as Mount Huangshan, as listed by UNESCO in the cultural heritage list. Shenhemu (talk) 05:31, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Well they would both be linguistically wrong then, quality English news sources generally use Lake Tai, as has been demonstrated in the last move request below. You should know enough Chinese to recognise the name Lake Taihu contains a redundancy. —HXL: 聊天 (T) 和 貢獻 (C) 13:06, 7 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  Of course I am aware of the redundancy! We discussed the same issue at Mount Huangshan for a long time. Now you might know enough Chinese to recognise the same redundancy there! We are not aiming at taking sides in a linguistic dispute at WP. The guidelines are clear. For foreign geonames, we should use the most commonly used name in English. Shenhemu (talk) 03:57, 15 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Those sources are still wrong and do not fit our article, because the phrasing "Huangshan is a mountain range" ('Mountains', not 'Mountain') has stood as the first sentence of the article for so long. —Xiaoyu: 聊天 (T) 和 贡献 (C) 01:02, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Name of this article: Taihu Lake to Lake Tai, Tai Lake, or Taihu

message: On one end, it says 20 m, and another end says 2 m. Which is it? O_o Hanfresco 07:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Average depth

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
Taihu Lake → Lake Tai — as above —supernorton 13:20, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support Well, if Taihu lake means "grand lake lake" then I support the move--Pheonix15 (talk) 09:29, 25 August 2007 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
This article has been renamed  as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 13:26, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move 2007: Taihu Lake to Lake Tai

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.
*Support Well, if Taihu lake means "grand lake lake" then I support the move--Pheonix15 (talk) 09:29, 25 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div>
This article has been renamed  as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 13:26, 29 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: The section on the ferris wheel seems unsubstantiated and talks about some 'city center' view but never divulges about any specific location around the lake. If this is the ferris wheel in Huzhou, then unfortunately, it gives no view of the actual lake. (i know, i went on it yesterday, i live in Huzhou)Megatonman (talk) 15:54, 11 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  ferris wheel? 

message: Might need to be removed anyway (as above) but whoever is putting the anchorlink directly in the section title: stop it. There is never a good reason to do that. Leave it in the line afterwards or above as you like, but don't ruin the section title formatting and make real incoming links that much harder to provide. — LlywelynII 03:57, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Ferris wheel section

message: As much as it pains me to mention this, the last decade of this ngram is pretty damning. Lake Tai's been on top for the last two centuries but, in the last decade, people seem to be using "Taihu" much, much more. I think it's a ridiculous name, but we shouldn't really be judging people because of that.
Scholar more or less backs up the ngram:
:~23.2k for Taihu Lake
:~9.8k for Lake Taihu
:~5.8k for Tai Lake
:~3k for Taihu
:~1.6k for Lake Tai
:~840 for Tai Hu or Tai-hu
:and much less for Tai-hu Lake or Tai Hu Lake, Lake T'ai, Lake Tai-hu or Lake Tai Hu, T'ai-hu or T'ai Hu, T'aihu, Lake T'ai-hu or Lake T'ai Hu, T'aihu Lake, T'ai Lake, Lake T'aihu, or T'ai-hu Lake or T'ai Hu Lake. Great Lake is obviously harder to search for but limiters like China or Shanghai put it at less than a thousand and always qualified by Tai or Taihu or some variation. Same thing with Grand Lake, which is about 1/5 as common.
Books:
:357 for Lake Tai
:307 for Lake Taihu
:271 for Taihu Lake
:and freaks out re: Tai Lake (It refuses to go to the end of the searchs and continues to give the BS estimate)
I'm fine with ignoring all that and keeping the page where it is (maybe all the scholars are observing some PRC diktat that doesn't reflect usage in other countries?) but what do y'all think? — LlywelynII 07:41, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Name: Lake Tai to Lake Taihu

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message: I'd like to delete this tag. The reason seems vague & the tag pointless to me. Other opinions? Pashley (talk) 01:49, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: voy:Lake Tai may have material that could be used to improve this article. Pashley (talk) 01:54, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove "multiple issues" tag?