Talk:M142 HIMARS

message: Just FYI > 
There are two applications of the HIMARS at this time. The first is obviously the schoolhouse where one half of the USMC HIMARs are located and the other half are with F Battery, 2nd Bn, 14th Marine Regiment currently deployed to CENTCOM. (I was there, push button go whoosh, nothing impressive in my opinion)
Cheers
Rob110178 20:24, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  HIMARS and the USMC 

message: It has tubes for 6x 227mm rockets, or this rocket pod can be replaced by ATACMS missile pod, which one could liken to a "scud" missile, range, and warhead are similar, and accuracy far better, so i really wouldnt call this one "a light", lighter than  MLRS or tracked chasis, yes, but light as a weapons in calibre or firepower/accuracy, certainly not. More like HEAVY or SUPER-HEAVY, depending what being launched.
Cheers.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.154.195.225 (talk) 13:52, 29 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  light? 

message: Never. This road speed would equal over 112 mph. Maybe 80 km/h?--Cancun771 (talk) 01:43, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 180 km/h???

message: if this is supposed to replace the M270, why is it an M142? why the low number? is M142 a rocket number? Brian in denver (talk) 20:50, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: nomenclature?

message: Cyberbot II has detected that page contains external links that have either been globally or locally blacklisted.
Links tend to be blacklisted because they have a history of being spammed, or are highly innappropriate for Wikipedia.
This, however, doesn't necessarily mean it's spam, or not a good link.
If the link is a good link, you may wish to request whitelisting by going to the request page for whitelisting.
If you feel the link being caught by the blacklist is a false positive, or no longer needed on the blacklist, you may request the regex be removed or altered at the blacklist request page.
If the link is blacklisted globally and you feel the above applies you may request to whitelist it using the before mentioned request page, or request its removal, or alteration, at the request page on meta.
When requesting whitelisting, be sure to supply the link to be whitelisted and wrap the link in nowiki tags.
The whitelisting process can take its time so once a request has been filled out, you may set the invisible parameter on the tag to true.
Please be aware that the bot will replace removed tags, and will remove misplaced tags regularly.
Below is a list of links that were found on the main page:
*http://www.army-technology.com/projects/himars/
*:Triggered by \barmy-technology\.com\b on the local blacklist
If you would like me to provide more information on the talk page, contact User:Cyberpower678 and ask him to program me with more info.
From your friendly hard working bot.—cyberbot II NotifyOnline 13:09, 3 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blacklisted Links Found on the Main Page 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on HIMARS. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/20140202142202/http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/publications/cyberpioneer/features/2010/jan10_fs.html to http://www.mindef.gov.sg/imindef/publications/cyberpioneer/features/2010/jan10_fs.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers. —cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 22:20, 29 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just added archive links to  on HIMARS. Please take a moment to review my edit. If necessary, add  after the link to keep me from modifying it. Alternatively, you can add  to keep me off the page altogether. I made the following changes:
*Added archive http://web.archive.org/web/20160103002422/http://www.dsca.mil/PressReleases/36-b/2007/Singapore_07-48.pdf to http://www.dsca.mil/PressReleases/36-b/2007/Singapore_07-48.pdf
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true to let others know.
Cheers.—cyberbot IITalk to my owner:Online 23:12, 27 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified  on HIMARS. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20150423045905/http://www.bga-aeroweb.com:80/Defense/HIMARS.html to https://www.bga-aeroweb.com/Defense/HIMARS.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20091208081822/http://www.casr.ca:80/bg-artillery-lrprs-rocket-project.htm to http://www.casr.ca/bg-artillery-lrprs-rocket-project.htm
When you have finished reviewing my changes, please set the checked parameter below to true or failed to let others know (documentation at ).
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 09:41, 14 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified one external link on HIMARS. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20141027180353/http://www.isaf.nato.int/article/isaf-releases/isaf-weapon-fails-to-hit-intended-target-12-civilians-killed.html to http://www.isaf.nato.int/article/isaf-releases/isaf-weapon-fails-to-hit-intended-target-12-civilians-killed.html
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 16:02, 27 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 4 external links on HIMARS. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20090710091334/http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090108/rocket_army_090108/20090108?hub=Canada to http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20090108/rocket_army_090108/20090108?hub=Canada
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20091130193209/http://www.casr.ca/doc-loi-lrprs-rocket.htm to http://www.casr.ca/doc-loi-lrprs-rocket.htm
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20130409134853/http://www.armyrecognition.com/united_states_us_army_artillery_vehicles_system_uk/himars_high_mobility_multiple_artillery_rocket_launcher_system_data_sheet_information_specifications.html to http://www.armyrecognition.com/united_states_us_army_artillery_vehicles_system_uk/himars_high_mobility_multiple_artillery_rocket_launcher_system_data_sheet_information_specifications.html
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20091130193209/http://www.casr.ca/doc-loi-lrprs-rocket.htm to http://www.casr.ca/doc-loi-lrprs-rocket.htm
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 07:10, 27 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Why reduced from M270 12 rockets to Himar 6?
someone knows the answer?
--188.171.58.18 (talk) 21:50, 16 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably weight and size issues. The tracked MLRS launcher is 3 meters wide, but standard for road trucks is 2.55m maximum in Europe, the U.S. standard is probably similar. A tank is 3.5m wide and fits just so on a train, but on a road it needs the shoulder or half the oncoming lane as well. If you want to be able to use normal roads everywhere, you should keep it to a normal commercial truck size, and also don't overdo with the weight (think of bridges). That's the "high mobility" part of it.--OBrian (talk) 09:50, 1 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Also it is to reduce the amount of weight on so it can travel to places and be less to transport on planes. 107.191.0.59 (talk) 21:26, 13 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why reduced from M270 12 rockets to Himar 6? 

message: Hello, I tend to ask before I edit.  The HIMARS system appears to have been deployed in Ukraine recently: https://avia-pro.net/news/ssha-peredadut-ukraine-kompleksy-m142-himars-s-dalnostyu-do-500-kilometrov
I'm not sure if that is RSS and reports are sparse. Thelisteninghand (talk) 20:38, 1 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Possible deployment in Ukraine 

message: Unit cost is currently given as "$5.1 million (cost of launcher and all ammunition required)". The "all ammunition required" is a problem (required for what?). Probably this should just be the cost of the system without regard to the ammunition, but I don't have a source for that. CAVincent (talk) 06:02, 27 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unit cost 

message: The list of potential operators says Canada was considering purchasing some by 2012. Since it is now 2022 and Canada does not operate the system, should they be removed? 2607:FEA8:9563:9A00:D89F:6BDD:D4D1:4069 (talk) 13:48, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair point. A cursory search on my part shows no further indication since 2009 of Canadian interest, much less usage. Removed. CAVincent (talk) 06:32, 31 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remove Canada fron potential operators? 

message: Towards the end of the discussion of use of the system in Ukraine: 
The discussion or 'text' that follows the Telegram Channel mention -- seems to be pro-Russian.  It mentions shooting down Ukrainian missile. That seems to be ... not pro Ukraine.
I think someone should check this.  
The paragraph can be cleaned up a bit depending on whether this point of view is pro Russian or pro Ukrainian. 2603:301D:1E0C:8000:9188:392E:27B6:85EF (talk) 20:35, 30 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Pro-Ukrainian Telegram Channel" 

message: There is a lot of information out there saying either one or the other, sometimes both. People often say tungsten when they actually mean tungsten carbide (or some alloy), which further complicates things. Does anyone have any sort of credible source on what the shrapnel is actually made out of? The first assumption is that it is the same as in APFSDS penetrators, so a tungsten heavy alloy (WHA). However, given that these spheres do not need to be actual spheres, their production you be as simple a letting molten material cool down in free fall. So it could also be pure tungsten or some other alloy that would otherwise be hard to machine/produce. Eheran (talk) 10:55, 22 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Material in M30A1 -  tungsten or tungsten carbide? 

message: You cannot categorically say "first destruction", but rather first "confirmed or proven destruction". There may be equipment that has been destroyed a long time ago, but for many obvious reasons it has not been possible to verify it. In fact, there is a video from a couple of days ago in infrared vision of the destruction of what could have been another vehicle and perhaps two, either another launcher or the reloader. In addition to another video a little earlier of a launcher being targeted by artillery in a forest where it hid after launching his load, but the result is not seen. The peculiarity of the most recent video is that it is a "high definition" real color image with full recognition of the vehicle and its destruction beyond any doubt. 152.207.201.130 (talk) 06:04, 6 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  About "first destruction" 

message: From what I understand Citation 90 links to a page to allow your IP to access the library of sources that website has. Presumably whoever added it meant to add a specific source from that library not a request to whitelist and IP. Unless I am fundamentally misunderstanding what that page does.
I believe the correct citation should be from the article "Arms Sale Notification" dated 10//24/2017 which makes a statement about a proximity fuze and a 10m burst height. Archive.org seems unable to show that article even though it has an archived page from 2023 (it just redirects to the request IP white listing page). 
How should that be properly sourced? 2604:3D08:5A7A:48F0:8B12:3B3E:F28A:1527 (talk) 10:50, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Doing a web search for M30A1 proximity sensor turns up this Federal Register web page with the fuze info in paragraph #3. I used this web page to replace the generic and unhelpful register page. Regards, -Fnlayson (talk) 15:16, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation #90 Federal Register not acceptable citation.