Talk:Ben Hogan

message: Please do not say "one of the greatest players" without citations. Jbossbarr, June 10, 2007.
I'm sorry, he's one of 5 men to complete the career grand slam (To win all 4 majors), he is the man the developed the modern golf swing and his teachings are still used today, these aren't weasel words that need citation, this is a fact to anyone who knows golf history.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gjones77 (talk • contribs) 19:48, 18 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Weasel Words

message: Someone's added it in, but I'm not sure that Hogan's career was affected by WWII? 
I don't think he joined the military or anything. It certainly is the case that golf generally changed after c.1945, but I think Hogan was still playing during the war years?
He was second in the 1942 Masters for instance, and seems to have done well generally from '39 to '45 where Major Tournamnet play was on offer.
83.141.127.39 21:11, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Second World War

message: Is it possible to verify that the (British) Open and (US) PGA Championships of 1953 were played at the same time? I have heard this before, but I have also heard it being contradicted. 
In any case, my understanding is that Hogan did not play the PGA Championship after his second victory in 1948 because, as a 36-hole-a-day matchplay event and in the aftermath of his crash, it was too strenuous for him. Indeed even before the crash, he had said that he would not play in it again (http://www.pga.com/pgachampionship/2004/history_1948.html)
In any case, the 1953 PGA Championship was played between July 1-7 (http://www.pga.com/pgachampionship/2004/history_1953.html) but I cannot find the date of the Open Championship.
The British Open was played July 6-10 in 1953, so it was impossible for him to play both. --Tewapack 22:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Non-Grand Slam of 1953 

message: I would like to see a new section in the article devoted to anecdotes about Hogan.  There are so many of them, and they usually involve a pithy punchline delivered by Hogan.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.242.113.198 (talk) 02:11, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Anecdotes 

message: In Ben Hogan's Five Lessons he states the following: "I was born left-handed - that was the normal way for me to do things. I was switched over to doing things right-handed when I was a boy but I started golf as a left-hander because the first club I ever came into posession of, an old five-iron, was a left handed stick."  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 12.149.8.201 (talk) 19:12, 13 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Left Handed 

message: As much as I enjoy the information in this section, it's basically a plagiarization, and poorly-done one at that. I count some 20 footnotes that cite the book in the section, all without specific page numbers. Furthermore, it's an overly long section that is all but an article in itself. Wikipedia's Ben Hogan article, as a whole, is supposed to be about Ben Hogan. While I appreciate the influence of his Five Lessons book, I'm not aware of any other golfer with a Wikipedia article whose book is regurgitated on this website virtually chapter and verse. Frankly, the Ben Hogan entry is an article that is a bit cluttered and lengthy already. It needs to be cleaned up to be worthy of its subject, and the "Five Lessons" section should be either removed in its entirety or cut down to a brief synopsis of the book.Harry Yelreh (talk) 06:06, 16 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Five Lessons" section should be eliminated or severely scaled down