Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Musical Theatre

message: Hi all. I just knocked off a stub on the Sigmund Romberg, Jean Schwartz, and Harold Atteridge musical Monte Cristo, Jr.. That page had previously been a redirect to the Victorian burlesque Monte Cristo Jr.. All that separates them in terms of name is a comma in the title. The chance for confusion here is pretty high. We probably need to check the in-coming links at both pages to make sure they are going to the correct stage work. Additionally, is this enough disambiguation between the two pages? Thoughts  and ?4meter4 (talk) 19:55, 16 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I guess the hatnote covers it. I also added something here: Monte Cristo#Film, television and theatre. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:05, 17 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  A confusion of Monte Cristos 

message: I would appreciate some input here. All opinions welcome.4meter4 (talk) 03:47, 18 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Songwriters on Parade]] 

message: Hello. I have done some formatting to casting tables on numerous musical pages for both Broadway and West End. The way I reformatted it was to add an extra row for the year it premiered. The reasoning behind this was becuase there could be another production that opens in the same year as the previous and those cells could be merged. I also cleaned up the titles on the headings (ex. change "2021 Broadway to just Broadway and place the year below it, or change "Broadway revival" to "First Broadway Revival") Some examples of the work I have done include Hair and Back to The Future. Is this style of formatting ok? I was just trying to make the tables neater and organized. I personally do not see an issue here but if other people do not agree with this style, I will undo the edits. I do apologize for not coming here beforehand.  Smitty1999 (talk) 20:56, 20 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I oppose these changes.  They make the already bloated casting tables bigger and longer.  Why have 2 rows for a 2021 Broadway production instead of just one?  There are not going to be two Broadway productions of a musical in the same year.  And why do we need to number the revivals in the headings?  Who cares if it's the 6th West End revival or the 7th?  If we just say Broadway revival (2020), that is crystal clear.  I would appreciate if others would weigh in here.   -- Ssilvers (talk) 00:01, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I can compromise on the "number" titles for revivals, but I still think the extra row for the year the production premiered is still necessary. Let's say a production opens in the West End or Broadway and then a subsequent production, say a tour or transfer happen in the same year, then the cells the year is on can be merged so that they are not repetitive. Look at Sweeney Todd for example, the West End Production and the First US National Tour opened in the same year. If we remove the number titles, the table headings might not look as bloated. Smitty1999 (talk) 03:26, 21 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casting Table Formatting 

message: See this edit, where someone else questioned the typical cast tables that are in many musical theatre articles.  As I suggested above, it would be better to convert them all to the more concise style used in Carousel and The King and I, which focuses on notable actors. -- Ssilvers (talk) 05:59, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: How is that relevant? ―Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 06:02, 30 April 2024 (UTC)

text: I can agree with this partially. Classic shows like Carousel or The King and I have had numerous revivals. However, newer shows like The Outsiders or Illinoise don't have as many productions on their cast tables, so that is not necessary for the newer shows but definitely for the classics. Smitty1999 (talk) 12:19, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure, some shows, like revues or unsuccessful regional shows, are unlikely to have numerous major productions, but both The Outsiders and Illinoise have just been nominated for multiple Tony Awards and very well could become ubiquitously popular, and so columns in the cast table are likely to get out of control, like at Moulin Rouge! (musical).  -- Ssilvers (talk) 17:04, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @Ssilvers We can implement that if/when tables get too bloated. For Moulin Rouge, I do agree that since so many productions of it have opened in the last few years, then we should condense the tables but not necessarily for new shows. Once they have more than a few different notable productions, then we can condense the tables to what they look like on Carousel or King and I. Cabaret is another one that needs a condensing as it has too many productions.  Smitty1999 (talk) 21:48, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: That is a workable compromise, though it makes more work when we have to, basically, do the table twice. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:09, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I can help if you need it. It's the little things we have to do to make them better.  Smitty1999 (talk) 22:13, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  If you have time, please go ahead on those two articles, and any others like them that you see from time to time, and I'll be happy to review if you ping me. -- Ssilvers (talk) 22:17, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Certainly! Smitty1999 (talk) 22:20, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: @Ssilvers I made the adjustment to the table on Moulin Rouge! Can you review to see how it looks? Smitty1999 (talk) 22:56, 30 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent.  Please look at my minor edits and edit summaries. -- Ssilvers (talk) 02:36, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good. I will start working on the Cabaret table now.  Smitty1999 (talk) 03:08, 1 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the concise tables are better and more user friendly. - SchroCat (talk) 13:51, 4 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Cast tables issues more generally

message: I've created Damian Hubbard about the fictional character from the film Mean Girls (2004) and subsequent adaptations, including the musical and 2024 film. Hoping some project members might be able to expand the article further re: the musical production. Thanks! ---Another Believer (Talk) 23:50, 10 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Damian Hubbard from ''Mean Girls'' 

message: Hi.  I am copying this request here from the COTM talk page, which doesn't get much traffic.  I hope someone can help this editor. -- Ssilvers (talk) 21:29, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Wrote a new article for a Harvard-educated, Tony-nominated musical theater writer Draft:Masi Asare. She's the only writer of Paradise Square who doesn't have a page yet, and she's done a lot and has been covered fairly widely. I'm hoping this is a slam dunk that's not hard to get approved. So, if anyone has permissions to move articles to the mainspace, please let me know if there's anything I can do to get this article going. Thank you Wikipedian339 (talk) 21:02, 5 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Draft article:  Can someone please review?: [[Draft:Masi Asare]]