Talk:Paul Vance

message: If Vance indeed died at 68, he would have been no older than 15 at the end of the Korean War, and only 19 when he wrote Catch a Falling Star. --Elderjohn  04:04, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Age, birthdate questionable 

message: Note that the claim that the song was written about his wife being too shy to wear a bikini could not have been Van Valkenburgh, since he told his wife he had written the song, which was a hit, before they met. --Dhartung | Talk 22:59, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah. The problem seems to be that the story is what the real Vance told news media at the time of the song, and this was included in the original obituary published in Hartford, CT. It was not what Van Valkenburgh or his wife Leroux told anybody, it was assembled from wire service records. Short answer: story stands, but maybe we need a separate source from the now-discredited AP obit. --Dhartung | Talk 23:03, 27 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin 

message: Paul Vance could not have been born in Coral Springs, Florida, as stated in the first paragraph. Coral Springs did not have any buildings until 1963, when the city was chartered. Looking at the previous edits, it appears that he is from Westbury, NY. I have changed the article to reflect that, and noted that he currently resides in Coral Springs. FWIW, the external links are not terribly useful; the CNN link is dead, and the NYT link requires $4.95 to read anything past the first sentence. Horologium t-c 22:54, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  City of birth wrong 

message: It is left unclear whether Vance wrote the lyrics or the music. It sometimes sounds as the two men collaborated on both. But it is a fault of wiki articles generally that they fail to make clear the demarcation between the roles. Valetude (talk) 22:40, 29 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Most sources seem to imply that Vance was, at least primarily, a lyricist.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:44, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Words or music? 

message: Many sources, and indeed record labels and sheet music covers, state that the hit 1948 R&B song "King Size Papa", by Julia Lee, was co-written by Paul Vance and Johnny Gomez.  It seems undeniable that Paul Vance was a co-writer - but was it the same Paul Vance, or a different person of the same name?  It's possible that it was this Paul Vance - he was born in 1929 so would have been 18 or 19 at the time - but on the face of it seems quite unlikely, and the song isn't mentioned in any biographies or obituaries of Vance that I've seen so far.  Any ideas?   Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:49, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I do not know.  This source shows Sept-Oct 1947 for the recording of "King Size Papa". AllMusic manages to show a connection to this Paul Vance, but I would not trust that source in this instance. - Derek R Bullamore (talk) 12:42, 8 June 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Some more research (see here,  here) suggests that the "Paul Vance" of "King Size Papa" was actually Paul Vandervoort II, who co-wrote with Wingy Manone the 1948 bookTrumpet on the Wing.  That seems far more likely.  Ghmyrtle (talk) 09:52, 12 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "King Size Papa"