Talk:Australian Stock Horse

message: As user and previously a breeder of ASH I would like to see some of the information listed below incorporated into the article. The early ASH sires were descendants of the early horses mentioned in the article. The early members of the ASH Society took great pride and care in the breeding and selection of their ASH. I have also included a little on the type of horse that the Ash is as requested in a query. All help will be appreciated TIA 
::I will let you make a couple tweaks of the material yourself before I dive in, but to be consistent with other breed articles, here are some thoughts:
#Avoid "laundry lists" of horses or breeders like the plague, unless there are very, very few (as in the Thoroughbred or the Morgan).  IMHO, even the American Quarter Horse article has too many.  Once you start, edit wars can commence if someone thinks their favorite piece of crap with balls should be on the list...OMG...
#Any horses mentioned at all should be long dead and of almost universal recognition.  (Hambletonian for the Standardbred, for example)
#Be sure to say AUSTRALIAN Stock Horse, as "stock horse" is a generic term for cow horses over in the USA and confusion is apt to result
#Start adding wikilinks as you write.  If you think there is (or should be) an article about something, put in a wikilink.  That's one area where I can proof...I can help do any piped links, etc...I did a couple for you so you can see what I mean.
#When possible, add footnotes to sources, sooner or later we have to, anyway.  I like this format best:   Author last name, first name.  "Name of web page" and date accessed or "full bibliograpnical info" on article, publication date of article and if accessed online, date accessed  For some source you will use multiple times, the first time go [citation, URL or whatever] and then the subsequent times it is used, do   See the help link and info on citing sources for more guidelines.
#For books like below, that you might use multiple times, see Horses in the Middle Ages for a good way to reference the book and individual page numbers.  I confess to being lazy about books and tend to just do "ref name" but I only reference books I actually own, so if challenged for page numbers, I can dig them up later...but, I AM still bad...don't be like me...
#Breed characteristics should emphasize how this breed is distinguished from other breeds and though breed standard from a registry is the place to begin, beware of peacock words. "Kind" eye is an example--no breed wants a "mean" eye...(grin) For example, in the Friesian horse article, I threw out "beautiful flowing mane" and I think it now just says "long mane."  Also be careful about over-emphasis on traits common to all riding horses...For example, ALL horses should have a well-laid back shoulder, no breed says a straight shoulder is a good thing! (grin) Ditto for tied-in bone, well-rounded hindquarters, etc.  (Sometimes breed standards are a dead giveaway to the breed's biggest problems...for example, miniature horse standards say that dwarfism is penalized, hmmm...minis have problems with dwarfism, eh?)(grin)
#I like the bit on how the ASH differs from the Waler, that is important, there was a merge proposal on the two articles for awhile, the articles make them sound so similar.
:::Hope this helps! Once the individual paragraphs are sorted out, we can plug them into the main article where they best fit.  I will go look over the outline that is there and see if we need to add more subheadings Montanabw(talk) 22:18, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
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message: I am going to start working in some of the material above.  See what you think and do check for typos, for one thing, I had eye surgery a month ago and I miss stuff, two, I write in American English, and this article should be in British English, so fix away!  Oh, also tossed in some stuff directly from those links you posted,  thanks. Now that I understand the "Laundry list" I put in the whole thing in its proper context (looks like it won't grow over 14 if the official breed guru says there are 14 horses???)  I stuck in some comments in hidden text that you can either fix in the article itself or by putting in draft language here.  Montanabw(talk) 02:28, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll check over your edits, and defer to your expertise.  By "lean" where I am going is some way of distinguishing the breed from, say the Quarter Horse (I live in QH country, I can say that a lot of them look like lard on legs, bless 'em) They are more "Thoroughbredy" from the looks of things, yet they are not tall and leggy like race horses, either... "rangy" is what I want to say, it's an expression we used to use here in the western US, but it's a colloquialism that probably wouldn't make sense on wikipedia to most readers...sigh... Ah, these things are always being tweaked. Montanabw(talk) 04:39, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
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message: THis link, or its updated version, may have useful reference material for article improvement: *Australian Stock Horse or Waler.  Montanabw(talk) 06:11, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This link should work. Justlettersandnumbers (talk) 09:37, 24 November 2014 (UTC)
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