Talk:Yanni

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replies: text: I updated the fair use rationale, although I think a better picture would be nice. Sanjayhari 07:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Yannibook.jpg

message: Didn't Yanni get arrested for domestic battery?  Should that be in the article? Sanjayhari 02:30, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: No because it is trivial event in his life with no charges filed, and because this is an encyclopedia and not a tabloid.  ♫ Cricket02 03:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: True, but Yanni was arrested, just like Mel Gibson; check out his own wiki.  I guess I'm not sure as to what constitutes gossip and relevant information.  Also, Yanni's mugshot is in the public domain and could be used in the currently-photoless wiki. Sanjayhari 07:34, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please...don't even go there.  There is no comparison to Mel Gibson.  And I suppose if you were a notable person and had an encyclopedic article, you would certainly want your mugshot used to depict yourself?   ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 18:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)

text: How is No charges filed and released the next day even come close to a noteworthy event in a comprehensive encyclopedic Biography of a Living Person?  ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 18:04, 31 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arrest? 

message: This information is sourced based on a news article vs. public records.  Furthermore, the Wikipedia guidelines ask for caution in revealing personal information that could be potentially harmful or disruptive.  Yanni's legal name - if it truly is his legal name - should not be included in the article.Bonj100 (talk) 21:02, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree.  ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 21:09, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

text: Also agree. Not to mention there's only ever been one source for the claimed real name. It would be a stupid thing to add to the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.144.19.253 (talk) 01:38, 21 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yanni's legal name 

message: Could somebody add the IPA pronunciation to the article? (an ogg with a his name pronounced would be good)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Equinoxe (talk • contribs) 17:07, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  IPA pronunciation 

message: According to the disambiguation article Acroyali, Yanni was actually born in Acroyali, not Kalamata.  Can this be verified, and, if true, edited into the article?  —QuicksilverT @ 18:29, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Acroyali is the name of a song that Yanni wrote, but many sources say that he was born in Kalamata, and he himself confirms this on the live concert film Yanni Live at the Acropolis.  ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 15:51, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  The opening sentence to the Prelude on page 1 of his autobiography Yanni in Words: "When I was thirteen, I took a long walk with my father through the summer-parched foothills above Kalamata, the small port on Greece's Gulf of Messinia where I was born." RCraig09 (talk) 03:06, 9 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birthplace? 

message: I noticed the album Winter Light is missing from the discography, and the article doesn't seem to mention it either. — OranL (talk) 11:10, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you.  It is another complilation album, added to list.  ♫ Cricket02 (talk) 15:49, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Winter Light 

message: It should be noted that his single "Standing In Motion" music is used in the Fountain of Nations music performance in EPCOT at DisneyWorld.
As well, his song "Looking Glass" can be heard in Innoventions area at EPCOT.
Darkrobe (talk) 20:26, 4 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standing In Motion 

message: This article desperately needs secondary sources that are reliable.  Claiming that Yanni's breakthrough video was the second best seller of all time and then citing an archive of his own website as a source is not enough: this does not provide an independent verification for the claim.  (In fact, that archive now appears to have been removed since the link is broken at present.)  Furthermore, most of the important info is cited either from another self-published source (his autobiography) or from the website of one of his labels (Windham Hill Records).  Again, neither are secondary sources verifying the info but rather primary sources putting the info forward for inspection.  --Jubilee♫clipman 22:06, 20 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree.  While this article is significantly improved since I and others started helping with it in 2006, it still needs a lot of work. I have been meaning to start weeding through the bazillion sources on the net for a long time (in search of more independent sources), and will make it a point for the new year.  ♫ Cricket02  (talk) 00:40, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, the article itself is pretty good!  Well done to all for the efforts there.  Good luck, Cricket, with your efforts to find decent sources (of which there must be thousands given his following).  --Jubilee♫clipman 02:38, 21 December 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The sourcing is fine better now.  Good job, all!  (Actually, there are some references to his own website: these are unusable as references for this particular article, I'm afraid, as they are primary sources --Jubilee♫clipman 22:12, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No improvements have really been done yet, I've personally been adjusting to a new shift and drowning in my work load of late, but this is still on my to-do list.... ♫ Cricket02  (talk) 21:26, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources and citation

message: Further to the above, this article is in several "composer for piano" and "pianist" categories.  The only places that the piano is even mentioned are the infobox, the lead and the "early life" section.  Did Yanni continue to play the piano and write compositions for it when he had broken through?  If not, the cats are pretty irrelevent and should be removed.  If so, we need to make the continued piano playing and compostion clear to the readers otherwise they will wonder why those cats are there.  --Jubilee♫clipman 22:08, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I will reply with original research alone (by following this gentleman's career), yes, he definately still composes for and plays the piano. It is a major part of what he is known for still to this day, along with orchestrations for those compositions.  I will add that to my list of sources to add.  Thanks for looking in again Jubilee, your work and opinion are always appreciated.  ♫ Cricket02  (talk) 21:31, 19 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Piano?

message: I just discovered Yanni tonight on Youtube (May 28, 2010) and was enthralled.  Looking at the videos there, though, it seems to me that he is a conductor and producer, more than a pianist/composer, contrary to what this article says.  Now, since I just discovered him tonight, I won't make the edit myself, but would like others who know him better to consider this point.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Skysong263 (talk • contribs) 04:51, 29 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conductor? Producer? 

message: According to Yanni's official website bio (here) his last name is spelled with TWO S's. 70.72.215.252 (talk) 21:47, 22 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I've just looked at page 10, line 23, of the biography Yanni in Words which spells it Chryssomallis as you note.  I'll read more on that since it may be more complicated (considering transliterations and all).  RCraig09 (talk) 19:39, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

text: As far as the first name goes, page 17 of the biography says: "In proper Greek , if you were to talk about me, you'd refer to me as Yiannis; all male Greek names have the "s" at the end.  Speaking to me, you'd call me Yanni.  What few people know is that until I first went out as a solo artist I spelled my name "Yianni.""  RCraig09 (talk) 19:39, 23 June 2012 (UTC)

text: I'm not sure what all this means for the different representation/transliteration now in the article: "Yiannis Hrysomallis" and "Giannis Chrysomallis" -- any experts out there? RCraig09 (talk) 19:39, 23 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Last name misspelled

message: Strange. I have tickets to the Yanni "World Without Borders Tour", but Israel isn't listed on the cited Tour dates page. I've heard of artists not putting Israeli tour stops on public lists for security considerations...
So far, I've found only this:
http://igoogledisrael.com/2013/02/the-legendary-composer-and-pianist-yanni-confirms-a-june-concert-in-tel-aviv/  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tewner (talk • contribs) 13:59, 28 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL#1 says future events, whether concerts in Israel or any other location, generally should not be entered into Wikipedia until after they occur. RCraig09 (talk) 00:38, 2 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yanni World Without Borders Tour in Israel 

message: This article is impressive to say the least.  I just went through with a fine tooth comb to copyedit - and I made no edits at all!  Perfect.  Special shout-out to :User:RCraig09 for all the hard work put into this article.  I think it is ready for WP:GA nom.  Any objections?  ♫ Cricket02  (talk) 06:18, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Meh. I'm involved in the article content rather than Wikipedia accolades. I've heard it can be a grueling and time-demanding process, but I'll defer to your will on the matter.  —RCraig09 (talk) 16:54, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Gotta agree there - grueling and time-demanding.  I did nominate.  I think this article is well worthy of recognition - what a great job - so very interesting.  I will be available to help out with reviewer comments when the time comes. ♫ Cricket02  (talk) 18:02, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA nom 

message: *This sentence has maint tag for citation:  The ensuing Ethnicity tour would become the fourth largest concert tour of the year ranked by Billboard Magazine. (citation needed|date=July 2012)  
:I looked at List of highest-grossing concert tours and found this Google book ref  for Billboard magazine December 2003.
::
 
:However, the citation says Ethnicity was ranked at #22 (not #4) - (this is found on page 23 of this Billboard book reference_.
:So question whether to change #4 to #22 in the sentence - or just remove the sentence altogether.  ♫ Cricket02  (talk) 05:34, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Removed. Since #22 isn't comparable in notability to other statistics in the article, I removed it altogether. Also, thinking long-term, it's hard (impossible?) to archive Google-book-search refs.  (Good find of the reference, though, thanks) —RCraig09 (talk) 16:54, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool.  It is totally my bad - I'm sure I added it years ago and never sourced it - read it on Bradley Joseph's website and took it as gospel.  :)  ♫ Cricket02  (talk) 17:22, 14 January 2014 (UTC)

text: ♫ Cricket02  (talk) 06:03, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: ✔ I removed "#" to avoid the issue altogether. —RCraig09 (talk) 16:54, 14 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyedit discussion 

message: User:LowSelfEstidle has made numerous complex hard-to-follow edits from Sept. 10-17. NONE had edit summaries. Dozens and dozens of footnotes were edited to delete (useful) archive links and replaced with (useless) "Retrieved" dates. And he's used Yanni's autobiography as a source in twenty-seven (27!) footnotes--a suspect use of a self-published source (see WP:SPS). With minimal reliable content and maximum confusion, I think it's only practical to revert the article to its form on August 22 (before his arrival). He hasn't responded to my post on his talk page or my internal email to him. 
Please, other editors, comment here to confirm whether you agree with a reversion. —RCraig09 (talk) 03:56, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm the main editor on Yanni's Persian page. Besides the points rightfully mentioned by you, the article looks anything but concise to me now. Even assuming the edits are correct, question is, is this much lengthy detailed information needed here (e.g. the new paragraph on Optimystique)? Furthermore, I wasn't able to check some of the references, mainly those requiring subscriptions @ HighBeam, and as such, their reliability is questionable to me considering some strange points; e.g. "...his wife Lynda, to write..." I also agree on the fact that auto-biography-sourced material needs to be minimal. Overall, I don't find the new edits contributing to the article in a helpful manner, and thus second your proposal to revert the article back to the August 22 edition. Alirn (talk) 19:58, 24 September 2017 (UTC)
replies: text:  Per reasoned consensus, after eight days I've just reverted to the August 22, 2017 version, with the exception of LowSelfEstidle's understandable shortening of the Discography section. We'll have to move forward from that August 22 version, if reliably sourced content is found. I will update Yanni discography as needed. —RCraig09 (talk) 17:05, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits by LowSelfEstidle