Talk:Churchill White Paper

message: I removed an outdated extract from the Balfour Declaration Article. It incorrectly stated that Transjordan was removed from the territory promised to Palestine under the Balfour Declaration, and etc.
That's certainly what the Jewish Agency for Palestine spokesmen claimed at the time, but it was never factual. The text of the declaration and subsequent treaties didn't prescribe or promise any boundaries, other than those that might suit the British and French. The Zionist Commission to the Paris Peace Conference never asked for any land near, or east of the Hedjaz Railway in the OETA administered territory. 
The text of these agreements are no longer secret. Most of them are quoted or linked to the respective articles here on Wikipedia. The Vilayet of Ma'an and Aqaba was annexed to Transjordan from the Kingdom of Hedjaz AFTER it fell to Ibn Saud. 
The Occupied Enemy Territory which later became Syria Mesopotamia, and Palestine were mentioned in Section VII, Aticles 94-97 of the Treaty of Sevres, the short-lived Kingdom of Hedjaz is mentioned separately in Section VIII, articles 98-100. http://wwi.lib.byu.edu/index.php/Section_I%2C_Articles_1_-_260
harlan (talk) 09:39, 21 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, after Jabotinsky persuaded Weizmann that the land beyond the Jordan was inessential to Zionism, both of them signed their assent to the Churchill White Paper as members of the Zionist Executive.  So any such claim, quite tenuous to start with, became utterly vacuous.John Z (talk) 18:53, 20 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extract from the Balfour Declaration Article 

message: This article does not mention (or link to) who 'Churchill' is. Except from when the 'Churchill White Paper' is mentioned in the first sentence, Churchill is not introduced until towards the middle of the article. It would be good to add an introductory sentence clarifying that the report originated from Winston Churchill (I assume) and to link to his profile.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 79.173.142.124 (talk) 15:46, 1 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Winston Who? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: As it stands now, this section is poor. Several parts of the WP have been cherry picked and quoted directly without any secondary citations in support. This is an abuse of primary source material. I will delete most of this and replace it with secondary source commentary on the WP provisions. If I miss out someone's favorite secondary source opinion, feel free to add it in somewhere.Selfstudier (talk) 11:58, 7 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Key provisions Section 

message: Another thing I find somewhat confusing is the procedure of obtaining specific Zionist consent (made public as document 7) to the (enclosure to) document 5. I will see if I can find secondaries that go into the reasons why this public consent was thought necessary, after all they could have proceeded without it or obtained it privately, Palestinian consent was not obtained for anything. Selfstudier (talk) 09:30, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zionist consent 

message: Tchah, once one starts asking questions, there is no end to them. We can see from the article that the Palestinian Arab delegation had been in London since August the previous year (still checking it, I think they met Churchill three times) but the published letters begin only with the Palestinian response to their being sent a copy (presumably earlier in February) of the proposed Palestine oic.Selfstudier (talk) 09:50, 13 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why start at February?