Talk:WAGR X class

message: made some minor formatting changes to the article:
* added link to external site
* added reference to published article
* added information re the Xb derivatives of the class.
* added comment re the type of engine.
If anyone is interested, there is some information on the Crossley experience in the UK and Ireland- the irish remotored their Crossleys with GMs because the motor was such as a dud - the link to Nic Doncasters page will give you more information. (Sulzer55 (talk) 23:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  March 2008 

message: Have reformatted the page to be similar to other Australian Locomotive pages.
have added in some additional data and refs to make it a little more valid
Text will need a spin up - anyone?  Sulzer55 (talk) 10:05, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Big Fiddle 

message: Someone changed the subclass of the X  from "XA" to "Xa": the XA was clearly marked in service as "XA" in BIG FAT SHINY letters, whereas the Xb was noted by the Big X and a tiny little "b" - see photos here on Railpage. if you have clearer photos of an Xb designation, I'd love to see it Sulzer55 (talk) 09:23, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Class identification 

message: I think this would be Royal Commission appointed to inquire into administration of the Western Australian Government Railways, chairperson Alan G. Smith, appointed 19 June 1957. Can anyone confirm this? It seems to have produced lots of interim reports but I can't find a final report. Biscuittin (talk) 12:42, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Smith Royal Commission 

message: The article mentions 'crack trains'. Does this mean prominent trains of the time or something else?  Stepho  talk  04:10, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Crack trains 

message: Have updated some refs and material to link to that published in 2014 by Rail Heritage WA. this publication also notes the intent to publish a book on the class... still waiting.  Sulzer55 (talk) 11:18, 22 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  rumours about the 'book' are almost ten years old... JarrahTree 12:24, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  additional information 

message: :: full details as understood by the parliamentary reocrd of the commision(s) (alluded to above)
:Royal Commission appointed to inquire into administration of the Western Australian Government Railways
Chair: Alan G. Smith
:Report on the working of the government railways for quarter ended 30 September 1957
(File size: 11.8 MB)
:Report of the Western Australian Government Railways Commission for the quarter ended 30th June 1959
(File size: 10.53 MB)
:Interim report No. 3 of the Royal Commission on The Western Australian Government Railways
(File size: 19.73 MB)
:Interim report No. 6 of The Royal Commission of The Western Australian Government Railways 
(File size: 21.41 MB)
:Railways Classification Board awards Nos. 4 and 5 of 1959 with report thereon by The Western Australian Government Railways Commission
(File size: 49.67 MB)
:Report No. 8 of The Royal Commission on The Western Australian Government Railways
(File size: 20.42 MB)
:Interim report No. 9 of The Royal Commission on The Western Australian Government Railways 
(File size 94.55 MB)
:Report No. 10 of The Royal Commission on The Western Australian Government Railways 
(File size: 34.25 MB)
:Report of the Western Australian Government Railways Commission for the year ended 30th June, 1959
(File size: 39.83 MB)
The X class was mixed up into all of this...
For the way it got into the Government Gazette -
WAGG No. 58, 21 June 1957, p. 1979
Amended on 26 November 1958 and published on WAGG No. 101, 5 December 1958, p. 3155 / Amended on 29 April 1959 and published on WAGG No. 36, 8 May 1959, p. 1185
Tabled paper Interim Reports 200/1957, 269/1957; Interim Reports Nos.1,4&5 146/1958, No.6 192/1958, No.7 220/1958 ; 164/1959, 165/1959, 166/1959
verbatim from https://www.parliament.wa.gov.au/intranet/libpages.nsf/589198976847966848256e5a0008666d/576f693668722e924825774300287922?OpenDocument
JarrahTree 12:48, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. I may have to wait for the weekend before I can digest that. Or someone can jump in early if they wish.  Stepho  talk  11:39, 28 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  The trick is - if it had been 5 to 6 years earlier - it would have been caught on trove - and the terminology of the royal commission and how it was reported does not help... JarrahTree 11:17, 29 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  parliament house record