Talk:Commonwealth School

message: Someone from the school overwrote this entire page with content from the school website; she thought some of the content would be off-putting to prospective students and parents.   Some of the previous content (the good stuff, hopefully) has been restored, and the page has undergone many edits since then. --ThinkingInBinary 01:17, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Rewriting

message: Replacing the entire page with stuff off the website appears to go against these Wikipedia policies:
* Consensus - the old page was wiped out without warning or discussion
* Autobiography/vanity - the new page was created by the school itself
: I have this confirmed by the school's director of alumnai relations. -- Jeff 16:46, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As it was put there by an official of the school, this should be ok. -- Jeff 16:46, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  It may be legally okay to post it, but does she know she's releasing part of the website under the GFDL? --ThinkingInBinary 17:15, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Policy Violations

message: There are two related pages to this:
* List of Commonwealth School awards - This page has been replaced with a redirect for the time being.  I have a backup of the text, but it needs more discussion before it gets reverted.
* List of Commonwealth School publications - This is a good page, and is linked to from the Commonwealth School page.
I have replaced the List of Commonwealth School publications with a redirect to this page. The article in question was neither encyclopedic nor verifiable. Please limit the content of Wikipedia articles to that which is notable and of interest to the general public. For example, I don't imagine the general public would be interested in who edited the school's satirical newspaper in 1997. Kaldari 18:17, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Other pages

message: I just modified the section on qotw to have a link to the group's archive website.  It is debatable whether this link should be here, and I'll give some reasons both ways below, but I think it is worth it.
====Against having the link:====
* Many or perhaps most of the archived quotes on the website would be of interest only to those in QOTW, and these people probably already know about the website.
* A small fraction of the quotes could unintentionally make the School look bad when read by those who don't know their context.
* The website is not very often updated, and isn't likely to be updated in a while.
* Some people who don't understand how wikipedia works might think that this link is an endorsement of qotw by the school.
* Mr. Wharton said that most people outside the school don't find QOTW funny or "don't get it". --ThinkingInBinary 12:51, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: *Not really.  It won't offend people if they don't see it, and people are less likely to see things that are "deeply hidden". -- Jeff 16:35, 20 October 2005 (UTC)

text: -- Jeff 01:56, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to the QOTW website 

message: * Many or perhaps most of the archived quotes on the website would be of interest only to those in QOTW, and these people probably already know about the website.
* A small fraction of the quotes could unintentionally make the School look bad when read by those who don't know their context.
* The website is not very often updated, and isn't likely to be updated in a while.
* Some people who don't understand how wikipedia works might think that this link is an endorsement of qotw by the school.
* Mr. Wharton said that most people outside the school don't find QOTW funny or "don't get it". --ThinkingInBinary 12:51, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: *Not really.  It won't offend people if they don't see it, and people are less likely to see things that are "deeply hidden". -- Jeff 16:35, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Against having the link:

message: * It is a logical link for background information, much like the one for firstclass
* Interested students could find out about it and learn how to join.
* The site links to the automatically updated (but not-very-pretty) email archive.
* Properly used, it shows huge amounts of what the atmosphere at Commonwealth is like (even our jokes are usually intellectually motivated :-\) --ThinkingInBinary 12:51, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: -- Jeff 01:56, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: For having the link:

message: *It is good to have a neutral article that, without grossly misrepresenting the school, portrays its unique attributes, positive and negative. --ThinkingInBinary 01:16, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The question is, though, is Wikipedia the place for that information? -- Jeff 20:49, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: See Wikipedia:Schools and links from that page. -Splashtalk 21:01, 18 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasons to add to this page 

message: The administration of the school has suggested that:
*They want the page to present the school in a very specific way.
**It's not up to them, it's up to the editorship of Wikipedia at large. There is no ownership of articles on Wikipedia. -Splashtalk 14:58, 15 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reasons not to add to this page 

message: The section listing notable alumni is too big.  I'm going to remove all the listings that don't already have a wikipedia page for them. 
:-- Jeff 04:42, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Alumni 

message: A discussion of whether school pages can link to ratemyteacher.com is happening over at Talk:MiltonAcademy
:-- Jeff 04:04, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rate My Teacher.com 

message: User:Ajd reverted my listing of Jay Featherstone as Joseph "Jay" Featherstone.  He was always referred to as "Jay Featherstone" or "Mr. Featherstone" when I was a student there, and I frankly found it quite strange to see him listed as "Joseph Featherstone", although that was indeed the name that was embossed on the school stationery.
I had added the often-used nicknames of the other headmasters who had commonly used ones, because I didn't want the article to be inconsistent.  However, I don't want to get into an edit war.  So,  does anyone have a problem if only Mr. Featherstone is listed with his nickname?  I suggest that I would put in: 
:: Joseph "Jay" Featherstone
I'd like to understand if anyone still considers the nickname to be frivolous.  I believe I have explained above why I don't think it is frivolous, at least in his case.  Thanks.  Saugart (talk) 03:04, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think using "Joseph 'Jay'" for Featherstone is fine, especially because it's both non-intuitive and how he was usually know. But "William 'Bill'" is silly-looking. AJD (talk) 16:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for the feedback, AJD.  I agree with your aesthetic judgment and I'll just make the change, since nobody has chimed in.  I think this topic can be closed, unless someone wants to say something.  19:05, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jay Featherstone 

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