Talk:Bonnie and Clyde

message: I added the  template because the same paragraph says that there's a picture of Parker smoking a cigar, and also that she never smoked cigars.  Needs explanation at least.  Maybe she was only pretending to smoke in the picture, or maybe she just very rarely smoked cigars?  --Trovatore (talk) 21:48, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: That may well be, but you didn't fix the apparent contradiction in the text.  --Trovatore (talk) 01:13, 26 May 2020 (UTC)

text: The sentence that begins [t]he picture of Parker smoking a cigar came from an undeveloped roll ... is a little awkward as it stands; no "picture" has previously been mentioned, so the reader may struggle to figure out what "the" picture means.  Maybe the solution is to rework that into a couple of sentences, explaining that such a picture exists, that its provenance is disputed, and that at least one source claims that Parker "never smoked cigars". --Trovatore (talk) 01:23, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: So not a contradiction per se but rather vague mention. Perhaps a rewording accompanied with referencing the photo in question already featured on the page would be better or referring to as "a" photo could suffice. --H. Roosevelt (talk) 03:41, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, no, as the text stands, it really is a contradiction.  If there's a genuine photo of Parker smoking a cigar, then it's not true that she never smoked cigars, and vice versa. --Trovatore (talk) 03:48, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: As previously stated, members of the gang later refuted this and so while the photo does depict her gripping a cigar in her mouth, it's likely it was intended to look tough, much like how some of the other pictures recovered from the hideout had them aiming guns at each other. So, "smoking" might be the wrong term to use in describing it. --H. Roosevelt (talk) 08:00, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  The question is what sourceable, verifiable, non-contradictory text we can put in place of the existing contradictory text. --Trovatore (talk) 19:07, 26 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: "While a picture exists of Parker posing with a cigar, members of her gang state that this was only done as a joke and that she never actually smoked cigars." --Khajidha (talk) 15:27, 9 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apparent self-contradiction 

message: The portion of the article dealing with Clyde's escape is erroneous. It states that "Barrow was sent to Eastham Prison Farm in April 1930 at the age of 21. He escaped from the prison farm shortly after his incarceration using a weapon Parker smuggled to him. He was recaptured shortly after and sent back to prison.[17]" Clyde's escape was from the county jail in Waco, Texas, not from Eastham Prison. See Go Down Together: The True, Untold Story of Bonnie and Clyde (Guinn, 2009) for a great deal of information on this event. Mvferguson (talk) 05:23, 9 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clyde's escape -- needs correction. 

message: Sources seem to vary if it's 13 or 12. Which is it? 2601:408:8001:120:308C:1591:EB81:D4B2 (talk) 17:54, 7 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Number of victims 

message: This article's popular culture section has grown to one-eighth of the article's content. Considering how detailed and full this article is (good), that's one monumental WP:COATRACK of trivia (bad). Many entries have no citations, others are simply too trivial to mention, and others have far more detail than is necessary. Time to trim. See MOS:TRIVIA and WP:POPCULTURE.    ▶ I am Grorp ◀  19:01, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Update: I trimmed a few of the sections, but the Music and Television sections still need work (trimming and citations).    ▶ I am Grorp ◀  19:35, 12 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Popular culture trivia