Talk:New Zealand wine

message: Anny groups focussed on NZ wines?--In Vino Veritas 05:32, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As well as Wikiproject Wine which has its banner above, Wikiproject New Zealand is naturally interested in this article.-gadfium 06:29, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NZ Wines 

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thread_title: [[WP:FOOD|WikiProject Food and drink]] Tagging

message: I've updated the article with a sentence about these, and an appropriate ODT citation. I don't have time right now, but I'd like to review the Regions section, to correspond to these 18 new GI applications, that will come into force (most likely unopposed) next year. These areas are: Northland, Auckland, Matakana, Kumeu, Waiheke Island, Gisborne, Hawkes Bay, Central Hawkes Bay, Wairarapa, Gladstone, Martinborough, Nelson, Marlborough, Canterbury, North Canterbury, Waipara Valley, Waitaki Valley North Otago, Central Otago. Three additional "permanent" GI are also New Zealand, North Island, and South Island, which I guess is handy for the poor sod wineries in such places as Levin, New Plymouth, Pohangina Valley and Buller River. Jon (talk) 11:45, 14 November 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Geographical Indication classifications for New Zealand wines 

message: For anyone reading this, I have begun a series of edits I plan to conduct over the next month or so to achieve several goals:
# Bring the article up to date. Much of the article dates from over ten years ago, a long time in New World wine countries.
# Reconsider and rewrite the non-NPOV parts of the article.
# Generally improve the writing style, consolidate the article summary, and eliminate repetition.
# Back up the article with good data sources, e.g. wine production and land area data, vineyard reports, and other statistics from New Zealand Winegrowers, annual and area-typical climate data from NIWA, and citations from standard world and NZ wine reference works (Oxford Companion 4ed, Wine Atlas, Cooper's NZ Wine Atlas, etc.)
# Rewrite much of the regions sections, using the NZIPO material for Geographical Indications, NZW annual reports, and a good history book as starting points. Maybe in the future we can break off a few more individual region articles (Marlborough had barely two sentences!), along the lines of the Central Otago wine region article.
# Cite wine reviews and awards to back up the inevitably more subjective material (quality, reputation, typical flavours or aromas, and so on). Bob Campbell, Michael Cooper, Geoff Kelly, Raymond Chan, NZ Cuisine, Air New Zealand Wine Awards, etc.
# Mention some more recent trends: perhaps orange and pétillant naturel wines, sustainability, links to regional tourism, role of Pernod Ricard.
Feel free to join in! :-) Jon (talk) 01:47, 1 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Rewrite and improve effort, 2018 

message: A note to future editors, please refer to this discussion over on Wikipedia:WikiProject Wine, with further background on /Archive 13). Wine literature since the mid 1980s has overwhelmingly shifted to fully capitalised grape varieties as proper nouns, e.g. Sauvignon Blanc over lesser- or un-capitalised alternatives. Jon (talk) 23:12, 20 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalisation of grape varieties 

message: ...could do with some rework, by someone who knows more about NZ Pinot Noir than I do; being more of a Syrah and Merlot nut myself, I haven't really followed Pinot Noir much (or, frankly, understood what the fuss is about). This book might be a useful reference (it's out of print, but there's a copy in a nearby library). Jon (talk) 03:12, 23 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Pinot Noir section 

message: Hi  - can you review the lead paragraph? Hopefully it's better than it was :-) Jon (talk) 23:11, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the lead is much improved. It summarises the main points of the article and it's well-crafted. You could perhaps elaborate on the different wine-growing regions, including the ones not currently named in the lead (e.g. Hawke's Bay, Cantebury), but I think it's adequate now.--Hazhk (talk) 23:31, 28 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Improved lead paragraph 

message: We should probably mention this, supported by Air New Zealand, and a relatively recent thing; a judging panel annually awards trophies to a handful of the best New Zealand wines, with the aim to:
:“create a definitive list of New Zealand’s best wines and wineries, independently chosen, showcasing provenance, consistency, excellence in winemaking and demonstrated evolution of fine wine production.”
See https://finewines.nz/ and the 2018 list. Jon (talk) 10:07, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fine Wines of NZ initiative 

message: I have begun splitting these off, with Hawke's Bay (wine) first off the block. Please review. What should I replace the Hawke's Bay section here with? Jon (talk) 12:26, 5 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting off the region articles 

message: Many thanks to , ,  and others for the many improvements, corrections, clarifications, and citation tags! Lots of work to do now to get this to GA status. — Jon (talk) 14:02, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  A once-over from the Guild of Copy Editors 

message: ===Controversies and scandals===
There is no coverage in the article at present of notable controversies and scandals in the New Zealand wine industry. These references provide some possible starting points: , , , , , 
===Environmental impact===
The environmental impact of vineyards and wine making could also be considered. Here is an article about water footprint that I found interesting: . A PHD thesis on water footprint, including NZ vineyards is also available here: 
The industry has also made significant moves towards carbon-zero. There are many sources, but here are a couple:,   ..Marshelec (talk) 21:28, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent, I'd like to do some of these soon. I have covered some of this as part of cleaning up Yealands Estate (scandals and environment) Jon (talk) 07:25, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

text: Here's a recent bit from The Guardian  — Jon (talk) 06:38, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This source provides interesting new material that would be worthwhile to include in the article. During the next week, I will try to extract some of the most relevant bits and incorporate into the article...Marshelec (talk) Marshelec (talk) 07:56, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Coverage – some suggestions 

message: The environmental impact of vineyards and wine making could also be considered. Here is an article about water footprint that I found interesting: . A PHD thesis on water footprint, including NZ vineyards is also available here: 
The industry has also made significant moves towards carbon-zero. There are many sources, but here are a couple:,   ..Marshelec (talk) 21:28, 19 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Environmental impact

message: I will continue searching for further sources for possible expansion of this article, and as time permits I may commence some editing.Marshelec (talk) 00:50, 21 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent, I'd like to do some of these soon. I have covered some of this as part of cleaning up Yealands Estate (scandals and environment) Jon (talk) 07:25, 26 March 2023 (UTC)

text: Here's a recent bit from The Guardian  — Jon (talk) 06:38, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This source provides interesting new material that would be worthwhile to include in the article. During the next week, I will try to extract some of the most relevant bits and incorporate into the article...Marshelec (talk) Marshelec (talk) 07:56, 16 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Developing the article