Talk:World War II/Archive 5

message: The The Jolacaust (Massive Murder) section need NPOVing. --Ann O'nyme 13:02, 31 Aug 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Jolacaust (Massive Murder)

message: ::::If the war was unwinable for Japan as stated in the article. Why is the battle of Midway so crucial ?
::::Was could have been the issue of the war if the Japanese had sunk the aircraft carriers in Pearl Harbor ?  
::::Ericd 23:11, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Unwinnable

message: Perhaps the best solution to the length of this article would be to split it into two or more parts say World War II part I and World War II part II, like has been done with the History of the Soviet Union and the Great Famine articles. G-Man 23:20, 21 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Length, splitting

message: Question: In this article, the invasion of Normandy is called "Operation Neptune", and it says that the combined operations of Neptune and Dragoon were called Overlord.  I thought that the invasion of Normandy was called Overlord and the invasion of southern France was called Anvil/Dragoon.  (Never heard of "Neptune".)  This is what the "Invasion of Normandy" article (hyperlinked to by "Neptune" in this article) seems to say -- so the two articles are currently contradicting each other.  So, which is it?  Bedevere 08:30, 27 Sep 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Operation names

message: I propose some italicised additions to a Pacific Theater paragraph, which are pasted below:
*This, however, only had the effect of turning world public opinion against it. In an effort to discourage Japan's war efforts in China, the United States, United Kingdom, and the government in exile of the Netherlands (still in control of the oil-rich Dutch East Indies) stopped trading oil and steel (both war staples) with Japan. Japan saw this as an act of aggression, as without these resources Japan's military machine would grind to a halt. Japanese forces invaded Siam, Malaya, and the Philippines on December 8, 1941, the local date, and simultaneously (December 7, 1941, the local date) attacked the American fleet at Pearl Harbor. Although Japan knew that it could not win a sustained and prolonged war against the United States, it was the Japanese hope that, faced with this sudden and massive defeat, the United States would agree to a negotiated settlement that would allow Japan to have free reign in China. They were incorrect, and Japan was faced with a war it knew it could not win. (By the end of the war in the Philippines, 6 of every 7 Japanese soldiers (84%) sent there were destined to die there, mainly from disease and malnutrition.) 
169.207.88.26 22:18, 4 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Additions to a Pacific Theater paragraph

message: I cut out parts of the article and put those parts into new articles to help alleviate the size of this article. WhisperToMe 03:21, 17 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Parts cut out

message: "...in Russia known as The Great Patriotic War, and before the involvement of Russia and the United States also known as the The War Against Aggression"
Just Russia or the entire Soviet Union? --Jiang 22:30, 17 Oct 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair point. Certainly it should say "... before the involvement of the Soviet Union". But as that no longer exists, should we say "... in the states of the former Soviet Union". ? Mintguy 22:42, 17 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Russian/SU involvement

message: Hi, could someone add some statistics on the costs and death tolls (per country) as well?  I will try to look it up too.  --ShaunMacPherson 17:18, 13 Feb 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Costs and death tolls

message: "The defence of France is of great ridicule in military history and it is clear that the French is not any Victorious power she thinks she is."
This adds nothing to the write-up, the grammar's dreadful and it stinks of pointless predjudice. Could it be removed?
:yes. It lowers the tone of the article and is factually incorrect.
Peregrine981 17:17, 7 May 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pointless dig at France 

message: Please don't use Great Britain when you mean the United Kingdom. Great Britain in effect means the United Kingdom minus Northern Ireland. Sometimes, for example in sport, Northern Ireland has a separate existence from the rest of the UK, so GB can be used. But when you are talking about the whole United Kingdom (eg, the awarding of VCs, etc) use UK, not the truncated GB. 
I know it sounds technical and anal, but the history of the islands of Britain and Ireland is very complex, with different names used at different times to mean different geo-political entities. (Example: The Irish Republic and the Republic of Ireland are two different things.) GB is the name of the full kingdom before 1801 or that bit of the kingdom excluding Ireland/Northern Ireland after that date! As an encyclopaedia we need to get the terminology right. FearÉIREANN 20:22, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Do we have an article somewhere detailing what the thing was called at various times? --Carnildo 21:15, 22 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Great Britain

message: Hey guys. I would like to have a little debate on what the Germans could have done to win the war. Maybe we could post info on this article on how they could have won. (NOTE: I don't support them. I just want everyone's opinion)- B-101 21:23, 9 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Bad idea. What-if history is below the wikipedia:encyclopedic standard that is our goal. --Johan Magnus 12:17, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hmmm.... Not invading URSS ? IMO Hitler's adventure was already doomed after the Battle of England and maybe earlier. But in anyway that's out of the scope of the article IMO.
Ericd 13:40, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: German victory?

message: Is there such a list? I am interested in compareing Allied casualties in the Italian Campaign versus the Pacific Theatre.Stbalbach 15:32, 11 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Casualties by campaign and theatre 

message: Quite some time ago, I sent a letter to the Times' 'Notes and Queries' section, asking them at what point 'The Great War' became 'World War One', and at which point the hostilities of 1939 became officially 'World War Two' rather than merely a set of regional conflicts - a tricky question, given that Japan, China, Italy, Spain and Germany had been or were already involved in various armed or hostile conflicts. Stupidly, I didn't buy the edition of the paper which had the answer! But from what I remember, 'World War I' and 'World War II' as terms came into public use during The Great War, and was popularised by H G Wells in 'Things to Come' and numerous editorial pieces. If anybody has any more information, I believe this little fact would be a useful addition to the article. - Ashley Pomeroy 15:08, 28 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  World War: The Sequel 

message: There may be a need to put a lock on this page since somebody has gone through and interspersed the words "fuck hitler" throughout the entire document. --Chichin0 19:06, Dec 13, 2004 (UTC)
:As you see, a quick revert and everything is back to normal. The person concerned has been politely asked not to do it again. No problem. DJ Clayworth 05:48, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The only time I've seen a page protected was when it was systematically vandalized eighteen times over the course of 24 hours. --Carnildo 06:33, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Page protection is primarily used to give a timeout for an edit/revert war. Protection is seldomly applied for vandalism unless said article is a main page article and attracting en-masse vandalism. Alkivar 07:22, 14 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism