Talk:Ages of consent in Asia

message: Information on "age of consent" in Iran seems to be on the map but not in the article. Any specific reasons?
(By the way, I don't think the notion of "age of consent" really applies to countries where religion regulates sexual activity. "Consent" is not the basis of lawmaking in those countries--"divine decree" is. Both quite funny concepts, when one comes to think of it.)
The age of consent is 13 in Iran. Whether or not you find something funny is quite irrelevant to Wikipedia.
69.235.5.112 (talk) 00:40, 13 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Iran? 

message: It might be funny to someone here, but as long as I live in Israel, I know that having sex with someone belowe the age of 16 is 16 prison years.
I translate from the Israeli Law list about the subject, and editing the page.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 217.132.68.17 (talk) 06:55, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Israel's age of consent 

message: I think that I read sex between a Lao and a foreigner is illegal in Laos regardless of the age of the parties.  Obviously that's not an age of consent question, but it should, it seems, be covered here, if it is true.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.23.224.120 (talk) 22:53, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Laos 

message: What I just said! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 124.183.122.166 (talk) 06:23, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have any information regarding Singapore's AoC laws, citations of those laws, and links to online copies of that legislation? If so please add it. If not demanding others do it isn't helpful. If we had this information already it would be here. --Monotonehell 11:17, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay now I'm confused, you already have added it? --Monotonehell 11:20, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please Add Singapore 

message: *I'm adding the age of consent for Malaysia. My reference is the following report from Interpol:
http://www.interpol.int/Public/Children/SexualAbuse/NationalLaws/csaMalaysia.pdf
--Pavithran 18:39, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Malaysian age of consent

message: On the interpol site linked in that section it pretty clearly states the article 177 of Japanese law sets the Age of Consent at 13 not 10, I'm changing that.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.179.37.86 (talk) 14:53, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japan 

message: quoted my comments from  
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http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm
Age of consent in india is 16.. Lately(2006-2007) some amendment was proposed(to raise to 18), but not implemented yet(for best of my knowledge). 
Give a look here, Age_of_consent_reform#Kerala.2C_India, saying that it was 16 earlier. But article age of consent says india is 18 years and interpol site, Thanks. Lara_bran 10:40, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: News dated nov 2006 says age of consent is 16.  Lara_bran 10:43, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It is here: http://ncw.nic.in/legal_amendments_proposed.htm these were proposed, but not sure if it is passed. See  this link appearing in that page. Thanks. Lara_bran 10:51, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

text: it was proposed amendment of "Criminal Law (Amendment) Bill, 2006", i could not follow any more. help would be appreciated. Lara_bran 11:01, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  India 

message: May I ask why reference 81 for South Korea refers to North Korean Law?
The [Not-So] Democratic Republic of Korea is North Korea
while         The Republic of Korea is South Korea
Please remove reference 81 from South Korea and transfer it to North Korea.
Also, the ACT ON THE PROTECTION OF CHILDREN AND JUVENILES FROM SEXUAL ABUSE actually does supersede Criminal Law in Practical usage (Maybe it can be written so?)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.249.210.242 (talk) 01:06, 13 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: According to SMPA (Seoul Metropolitan Police Agency), it is illegal to have sex with anyone under 19, western age.  http://www.smpa.go.kr/smpa2007/bbs/board/viewMain.asp?code=for_eng&num=120&page=31&s=&c=&sort=&sk=&print= .  The site used as the source for South Korea is unsourced itself.  This is not a verified fact.Tarkaan (talk) 09:12, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

text: and you can see from here that article 305 is still valid, and on the books. If the law had been replaced, modified or superseded the law would be struck out and removed. The law also indicates that it was updated in 2012 which is after the other law came out in 2010-2011. search for article 305 to find the text I'll quote here:
A person who has sexual intercourse with another who is under thirteen years of age or commits an indecent act on such person shall be punished under Article 297, 297-2, 298, 301, or 301-2. <Amended by Act No. 5057, Dec. 29, 1995; Act No. 11574, Dec. 18, 2012>--211.215.156.184 (talk) 00:24, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  South Korea 

message: 305 never lost it's validity. If it did, they would remove it. Here is the actual wording from the new law that applies to 305, it has absolutely nothing to do with changing the law and only to do with clarifying terms.
Article 16 (Victims' Intentions)
Notwithstanding Article 306 of the Criminal Act, public prosecution may
be initiated for any of the following offenses committed against children
or juveniles, even though no complaint is filed by the victims thereof:
Provided, That no public prosecution of the offense defined in Articles
10 (1), 11 and 12 of the Act on Special Cases concerning the Punishment,
etc. of Victims of Sexual Crimes against a child or juvenile shall be initiated
against a victim's express intention: <Amended by Act No. 10260, Apr. 15, 2010>
1. Offenses as defined in Article 7;
2. Offenses as defined in Articles 297 through 300, 302, 303 and 305 of the Criminal Act; 
This particular section refers to what is known as a personal crime in Korea. Personal crimes require that the victim consent to a police investigation. This meant that even if someone broke a law and raped a minor, the police could not charge them unless the victim consented. This removes that part of the law and allows the police to charge them regardless of the victim's wishes. It does not add or change any other existing laws. 
Article 2 (Definitions)
The terms used in this Act shall be defined as follows: <Amended by Act
Nos. 10258 & 10260, Apr. 15, 2010>
1. The term children and/or juveniles means persons under 19 years
of age: Provided, That persons for whom the first day of January of
the year in which they reach 19 years of age has arrived shall be excluded;
2. The term sex offenses against children or juveniles means offenses
falling under any of the following subparagraphs:
(a) Offenses as defined in Articles 7 through 12 (excluding those defined
in Article 8 (4));
(b) Offenses against children or juveniles as defined in Articles 3 through
10 and 14 of the Act on Special Cases concerning the Punishment,
etc. of Victims of Sexual Crimes;
(c) Offenses against children or juveniles as defined in Articles 297
through 301, 301-2, 302, 303, 305 and 339 of the Criminal Act;
This is also where article 305 is mentioned. What this new article is doing is helping to define terms. It neither adds nor modifies any offenses only clarifies definitions of terms. Many people who have read these two things seem to think it means that the things defined in 2(C) are somehow changed when all it's doing is saying that the term applies to those laws. The confusion has come mostly from people incapable of properly parsing English/Legalese..even though the legalese really isn't complicated.--211.215.156.184 (talk) 10:49, 30 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: and you can see from here that article 305 is still valid, and on the books. If the law had been replaced, modified or superseded the law would be struck out and removed. The law also indicates that it was updated in 2012 which is after the other law came out in 2010-2011. search for article 305 to find the text I'll quote here:
A person who has sexual intercourse with another who is under thirteen years of age or commits an indecent act on such person shall be punished under Article 297, 297-2, 298, 301, or 301-2. <Amended by Act No. 5057, Dec. 29, 1995; Act No. 11574, Dec. 18, 2012>--211.215.156.184 (talk) 00:24, 1 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: 305

message: The information in the image is inconsistent with the information following the article. Could we change or remove the image?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 125.60.241.153 (talk) 12:41, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image used 

message: The Afghan entry currently states "but this is ignored by the police" and yet the reference after that statement does not, I believe, back up the statement - and merely confirms that the AoC is 16.  I plan to move the reference tag to follow the statement of AoC - however I have not removed the offending statement without the possibility of discussion. MrMikeEsq (talk) 22:08, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Afghanistan 

message: After posting this message, I will amend the section on Yemen, as, the citation provided8-year-old girl asks for divorce in court - law in Yemen http://yementimes.com/article.shtml?i=1145&p=front&a=2 does not link to an article on the topic.
I see on preview that another reference (www.lawonline.co.th/Document/code330.doc) shows up from the citation I copied and pasted here from the article. I can only assume this arises from the coding of the citation I've pasted, and maybe it's a way to find the original citation. I did try, but to no avail. Nevertheless, it may prove a useful url for someone to explore.
Regarding the original citation, while Google searches bring up returns for a search using the phrase "8-year-old girl asks for divorce in court" they pertain to the case of Nujood Ali. However, she was apparently 10 years old when she sought divorce, per references.
I have also been unable to find any specific citation for the claim about article 15, so will amend the text accordingly. Regards Wotnow (talk) 02:35, 8 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Yemen

message: Half of the countries on the map have the wrong color, especially in Africa. Someone needs to go carefully through Ages of consent in Africa, Ages of consent in Asia, Ages of consent in Europe, Ages of consent in North America and Ages of consent in South America and correct the map. Or better, create a new map, the colors on this map are problematic, as they are barely distinguishable (eg 13, 14 are nearly the same on the map). The map cannot stay any longer in such a state.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.25.170.51 (talk) 10:28, 9 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Map

message: :Sex with a child under 12 is considered rape. There are several laws dealing with children 12-18 but they are complex and subject to interpretation.2A02:2F0A:504F:FFFF:0:0:BC19:A0A5 (talk) 01:28, 2 February 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Anon 2A02, you removed the section as "unsourced", but in fact it has several sources (one is a dead link, which I tagged). Your personal opinion is not sufficient reason to delete. Provide challenges to the sources here and wait for discussion; otherwise leave it alone. Cresix (talk) 17:39, 30 March 2013 (UTC)
replies: text:  I am curious why INTERPOL determines the age of sexual consent in the Philippines? Does INTERPOL determine the sex laws for all nations? Or just the Philippines? Further, if only the Philippines, why?184.155.134.43 (talk) 18:17, 22 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philippines 

message: I undid this edit, the only edit of the suspiciously-named , as the paragraph is not supported by the reference and contradicts other sources. Here it is:
:However in April 1999 the Japanese parliament wrote into law The Child Welfare Act which changed the age of consent to 18 and the age of majority to the age of 20. (The Child Welfare Act [1999] Articles 2 and 3 respectively) It also restated that the legal age of marriage to be no less than 16 for females and 18 for males but only after parental consent. http://www.japaneselawtranslation.go.jp/law/detail_main?id=11&vm=2
—Ashley Y 01:59, 30 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japan Child Welfare Law 

message: In Israel, although sex with a child under age 16 (with the child's consent) is illegal, it's only rape if the child is under age 14. Having sex with a 14- or 15-year-old child is considered "בעילה אסורה בהסכמה" (forbidden sex with consent). עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 13:58, 21 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Israel 

message: There appears to be conflicting reports on what the actual age of consent in Vietnam is.  The Wikipedia article claims that the age of consent is 18 in Vietnam, sourcing this BBC news report regarding Gary Glitter and this human rights report by the US Government which states that punishments for "sex with minors between the ages of 16 and 18, depending upon the circumstances, vary from five to 10 years in prison".  However, the criminal code does not mention that any relations between those aged 16-17 and older adults are illegal.  It only states that forcible sexual activities (i.e. rape) involving 16-17 year olds are punished more harshly than those 18+.  It appears that the report by the human rights report misinterpreted Article 111 in the Criminal Code, which stipulates that those "Committing rape against a juvenile aged between full 16 and under 18 years old [...] shall be sentenced to between five and ten years of imprisonment"; that provides penalties for rape against minors aged 16-17, not making the age of consent 18. Furthermore, the news reports reporting the age of consent in Vietnam are inconsistent; a later report about Gary Glitter by the BBC stated that the age of consent in Vietnam is 16, as do several other news reports from the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, the New York Times and CNN.  I believe the article should either say that the age of consent is 16, or should mention the conflict between sources and list Vietnam's age of consent on the map as "Other".  Sega31098 (talk) 19:56, 3 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vietnam 

message: I have serious doubts as to the veracity of the ages stated for Indonesia. It really ought have some proper citation or be removed.Suastiastu (talk) 07:03, 19 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Indonesia 

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message: The Wikipedia article states the age of consent in Taiwan is 16.  However, in the English translation of the The Protection of Children and Youths Welfare and Rights Act, paragraph 9 of Article 49 states that "No one will [...] Force, seduce, remain, or act as broker for children and youth to undertake obscenities or sexual behaviours".  The act further states "Anyone who violates one of the regulations described from Paragraph 1 to 11 or from Paragraph 15 to 17 of Article 49 will be fined a sum of no less than NT$ 60,000 and no more than NT$ 300,000 and their name or title will be announced." in Article 97.  In this act, "children and youth" means anyone under the age of 18.  Could this technically make the unfettered age of consent in Taiwan 18, or am I just misinterpreting the act?Sega31098 (talk) 03:24, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
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message: The current age of consent in south is well cited to an explanation in English by a south korean lawyer. For some reason there are a group of people who can't seem to properly read the laws and seem to think that a different law is somehow involved in this. That law is addressed in the lawyer's cited explanation of the age of consent. This has been an on-going issue in Korea for many years now as there is some element of the expat community who were never able to properly parse the law in the first place and have spent several years spreading misinformation on blogs, forums, facebook, wikipedia, etc. The law introduced a definition of a minor as someone under the age of 18, they took that to mean that sex with anyone under 18 was now illegal, of course that wasn't what it meant, since it was only the definition section of the law. The reason it defined Minor was because it added increased penalties for sex crimes against those under 18. It didn't really define any new crimes and mostly changed existing penalties. It didn't change the age of consent in any way and there are numerous court cases here in Korea where the police or prosecutors have tried to charge an adult for having sex with someone between the age of 13-18 and they've been found not guilty only cementing that. The content that this person keeps trying to reintroduce has no bearing on the actual age of consent at all and is only related to other abusive crimes. It's no more relevant than pointing out that it would you would be breaking other laws by forcing someone into prostitution under the age of 18 in the US for example.--125.129.16.99 (talk) 00:44, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  South Korean age of consent 

message: I think the age of consent in Bangladesh is 16 years of age.
Though according to The Penal Code, 1860 (375), fourteen years of age is documented as the age of consent, it is defined as rape in Women and Child Abuse Prevention Act, 2000 | 9 (1) to have sexual intercourse with a woman with or without her consent, when she is under sixteen (16) years of age. And this kind of Special Law gets privileged in the courts of Bangladesh.
– Jihan (talk) 07:33, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bangladesh: 16 years as the age of consent.  

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thread_title:  Xinhua source on Mainland China 

message: The section on the Philippines must be updated. As mentioned in the beginning, the age of consent has been raised to 16. The latter part of this section is outdated, though. It mentions earlier legislation for the age group 12-17 and plans to raise the age of consent to 16 (which now has been done). The section need updated information about the law regarding 16-17 year olds. 84.215.133.169 (talk) 18:21, 24 July 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philippines