Talk:Delhi Technological University

message: ==Solar car team==
This page states that Delhi College of Engineering created a solar race vehicle.  Would whoever has the details of this project please enter the relevant information into the List of solar car teams page.  The DCE vehicle would apparently be the first solar racing vehicle from India. Bry9000 (talk) 21:17, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

message: Someone from the current batch at DCE needs to add more information, pics etc. on the New Campus. Needs information on batch strength, faculty, clubs etc. ~ Sanjoy
:I think it's fairly OK now. more work that could go: citations for number of students and faculty; the section on student life (hostels etc.) could be expanded, too. I'd like to see more alumni listed, although without having too many examples. Gnusbiz 21:46, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Article improvement

message: Note:  Project Banner with Delhi workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article falls under :Category:Delhi or its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate , please undo my changes and update/remove the relavent categories to the article -- Amartyabag  TALK2ME 13:24, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:INDIA]] Banner/Delhi Addition 

message: I wanted to discuss why there is a talk of Netaji Subash Institute of Technology (NSIT) in the admissions section.
The no of seats mentioned here as 1218 sound confusing. Are they the total seats for both the colleges ?
I think we should mention the total no of seats at both the colleges :
Delhi College of Engineering : 1218
http://admissions.aglasem.com/?p=8312
Netaji Subash Institute of Technology : 619
http://admissions.aglasem.com/?p=9705  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aanshuc (talk • contribs) 06:37, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree NSIT is irrelevant and removed it. I don't think the number sits should be mentioned at all. It changes every year and carries very little encyclopedic value. I removed it and the section now appears to me to be exactly how it should be, discussing the admission process, not its specifics in a given year. --Muhandes (talk) 09:50, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Admissions Section 

message: I wanted to bring to your notice that Sushant Singh Rajput is not an alumnus of DCE.
It is true that at one time he was studying at DCE, but he dropped out of the college midway to pursue a different career.
http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=1405119
If you can find some other source as well, please validate the same.
Instead I have added a few others, please check ..
Also we have an Alumni Association http://dcealumni.org/, should we add information regarding it in the Alumni Association section ?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Aanshuc (talk • contribs) 08:43, 3 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: If you think an article is wrong, it is best to fix it. I went ahead and removed Sushant Singh Rajput as well as tagging the other existing member. As for all the ones you added, per WP:NLIST and WP:INDISCRIMINATE, a member in a list needs to be notable. As none of these have Wikipedia articles, notability was not established, so I removed them. If the person is indeed notable, I suggest you create an article about them, and then add them again. The alumni association is currently mentioned in the Alumni section, there is no need for more. --Muhandes (talk) 18:20, 4 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alumni  

message: Another editor is insistently removing current ranking and replacing them with older ones without giving any reasoning. Please discuss here. --Muhandes (talk)
Dear Muhandes, neither I am removing current ranking nor replacing them with older ones. I am not even putting up any promotional content.
I am correcting a misrepresented data.
If you notice the webpage of career360 which you have used to give rank of DTU, you will realise that it does not list the ranking of "engineering" colleges. You can carefully go through the list at http://www.university.careers360.com/colleges/ranking/2017 and cross-check for your ownself how many among them are engineering institutes. Also you can check the title.
Next, I had uploaded ranking of 3 years: latest being 2017, and even of 2016 and 2015. NIRF ranking is the other one, which again is comparison of universities not of engineering institutes. This (NIRF ranking) is well debated and quite understood in both academia and industry in India. You can have some of the quick reads at:
https://www.quora.com/What-is-your-opinion-about-recent-NIRF-ranking
https://www.quora.com/Is-NIRF-ranking-worth-true-and-considering
You can read other related questions and answers as well.
And following are even the department-wise national ranking of DTU:
http://pickacollege.digit.in/search/result?mode=search&p[]=facets.stream=Electrical%20and%20electronics&p[]=facets.stream=Electronics%20and%20communcation
http://pickacollege.digit.in/search/result?mode=search&p[]=facets.stream=Manufacturing%20engineering&p[]=facets.stream=Mechanical&p[]=facets.stream=Mechatronics
http://pickacollege.digit.in/search/result?mode=search&p[]=facets.stream=Computer%20science&p[]=facets.stream=Information%20technology
http://pickacollege.digit.in/search/result?mode=search&p[]=facets.stream=Civil
which is consistently 12. Hence, the above data and the links I have posted in the corrected content show that rank 72 reported by career360 is incorrect. Also to just misrepresent data to dishonour an institute and term the correction as promotional is also not ethical.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gauravdce07 (talk • contribs) 17:25, 28 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Please stop reverting me while discussion is going on. Lets go over your claims one by one:
* Careers360 overall ranking: It is "DTU was ranked 72 by Careers360's Top Universities in India 2017, 64 among government institutes" is a neutral, well sourced claim, by a notable source per consensus. It is not saying anything bad or good, it is simply a number, Unless you have a valid claim against it, don't remove it, pick and choosing rankings is promotion.
* We don't add rankings from older years because they are redundant. Old ranking are old history. This is the consensus, as you can check with almost all other India institutes articles. The only reason I can think of to show old rankings is again, promotion.
* "[DTU was ranked] 39 by the National Institutional Ranking Framework in 2017" is a neutral, well sourced claim, by a notable source per consensus. You are free to add any claims you have against it to the NIRF article, but again, pick and choosing is promotion.
* I added The Week ranking from your text.
* I'm not sure Times Engineering Survey is notable, but I added it from your text.
* The Edu-Rand Rankings is old and irrelevant. It was removed from all India institutes articles. It is clear you want it here for promotion.
So yes, everything you do point out very clearly to promotion. Are you somehow related to DTU? You seem to work for them. --Muhandes (talk) 19:22, 28 June 2017 (UTC)

text: I could answer your (1)-(5) with WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, but since you worked hard on pointing them out I corrected them.
(1) Per this "S. No.(Serial Number) This is a way of listing the colleges. Note: S. No. Does not represent ranking of the college." 64 is not a ranking it is a serial number. Careers360 gives NSIT a rating of "AAAA". I added it to the article, though I never liked the inclusion of rating. 
(2) Good catch, I corrected 3 to 42, 3 among private only. As above 40 is not a rating, it is a serial number
(3) I missed that one, corrected 72 to 73. As above, 36 is an a serial number, not a ranking.
(4) As above, 31 is a serial number. 
(5) Same
1. I may agree or not, it is still WP:OR. The fact is that de facto consensus is to use Careers360, and in Wikipedia we go by consensus. If you want to change the consensus, post at WP:INEI. Give good enough arguments, and I will even support you. 
2. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. I corrected the errors you pointed out. If you have more, either correct them yourself, or post at my talk page and I will correct them.
3. Don't be ridiculous. Read my user page and look at my list of contributions. I am completely neutral and have no relation to any institute in India. How about you? 
4. WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. I try to be as comprehensive as I can but if any current ranking is missing, either add it or post at my talk page and I will add it. 
5. Again, de facto consensus is against it and I personally think it is a bad idea. Seek new consensus at WP:INEI.
--Muhandes (talk) 12:53, 29 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ranking 

message: QS World Ranking of 2022 is Live. Please update it. Divyansh Singh0516 (talk) 08:25, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 13:05, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2021 

message: 2409:4050:E83:33BE:0:0:8589:EA01 (talk) 13:29, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. — DaxServer (talk to me) 14:49, 9 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 September 2021 (2)