Talk:Voivodeship

message: :I started Wikipedia:WikiProject Polish Voivodships some time ago to settle the naming conventions for Polish Voivodships, powiats/counties and gmina/communes. Please participate. Halibutt 13:12, Sep 21, 2004 (UTC)
Can anybody translate the map into English please? --Akkolon 14:22, 8 Dec 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, see oblast and raion. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 22:25, 5 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Polish Voivodships

message: An extensive discussion, as cited above, has been ongoing about the word "Voivodeship" .  The consensus is clear that the preferred spelling is "Voivodeship", since that is the spelling recommended in the Oxford English Dictionary.  A project is ongoing to update many article titles, stubs, and categories to reflect the consensus spelling, and this article is included.  As such, it should be moved to Voivodeship, per consensus. If anyone has opinions, please discuss them below. --Elonka 15:05, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but I repeat: this IS NOT article about voivodships/voivodeships of Poland, but about general term Voivodship that was used in several countries. If you say that somebody reached a "consensus" to rename Polish-related articles from "voivodship" to "voivodeship" that does not mean that this "consensus" should apply to this article as well. I really see no point to change name of this article. Three names are used in English for the subject: "voivodship", "voivodeship" and "voivodina". Most Wikipedia articles already use term "voivodship", and I see no reason why we should not use it. Where is proof that "voivodeship" is more common in English than "voivodship"? Reference in one dictionary does not mean much. If this ridiculous crusade against term "voivodship" continue, perhaps I should consider to use term "voivodina" for Serbia-related articles (since there is already chaos in this usage of terms). So, please do not speak about "consensus" in a discussion where I did not participated at all, but try to prove here why we should not use term "voivodship" for this article? PANONIAN (talk) 15:29, 17 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I agree that there should be sensitivity to the spellings as preferred by other nationalities.  As for participation in the discussion, there have been multiple mentions here at Talk:Voivodship that a renaming discussion was going on, so it can't really be claimed that this was a total surprise.  However, I'm fine on rediscussing the issue of this particular page. My main reason to support the spelling of "Voivodeship", is because that's the primary spelling in English dictionaries, as can be easily verified in any library that has the OED, and that this applies not just to the Polish administrative unit, but also to other nationalities as well. If there are outside sources (Serbian/English dictionaries, perhaps) that use the spelling of 'voivodship instead, then the Serbian articles on Wikipedia should by all means stick to that spelling.  Can sources be provided? --Elonka 17:26, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Requested move

message: *Note: at least two articles that contained the word "voivodship" were recently renamed "voivodeship" through Wikipedia:Requested moves. I completed those moves, but unfortunately I was unaware that this page had a requested move as well. There is not a majority at this time, but I think having articles with various versions is undesirable. I suggest that editors vote for a version to use in all articles. I have made an area for editors to vote on whether they want all of the articles' names to be decided by this poll. I'll move this article's entry on requested moves to the top so that it can get more participation. I suggest that the poll be closed on 8/10/06. The long length is to give plenty of time for people to participate since so many articles will be affected (perhaps 40 to 100, according to WikiWax, it's hard to tell since redirects show up). Participants, please do not recruit voters to vote for your side. However, you can place neutral notices at places that are likely to be frequented by both sides, like the Village Pump. Placing a notice on pages that will be affected by the outcome would also be appropriate. Since there are so many, you might want to stick to the most well known ones. -- Kjkolb 09:43, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  As far as Poland-related articles, this has already been covered in such locations as  Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Geography of Poland, and  CFR, and Wikipedia_talk:Naming conventions (places).  The main unresolved issue at this point, is just the naming of this "Voivodship" article, since it involves the opinions of multiple nations' regions, not just Polish.  As such, I agree it deserves a separate discussion.  But the others are pretty well already resolved.  I've left a more detailed explanation on your talk page. --Elonka 16:59, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Voting

message: #PANONIAN (talk) 16:14, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The article should keep name "Voivodship"

message: # This is the spelling in the Oxford English Dictionary. --Elonka 17:20, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: The article should change name into "Voivodeship"

message: *Support; the same issue, the actual English usage. Septentrionalis 00:50, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: This poll should determine the spelling for all articles

message: *STRONG SUPPORT ...for reasons already explained. If this crusade against alternative names continue, do not think that I will not start a poll in every single article that is affected by this. PANONIAN (talk) 01:10, 30 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: This poll should not determine the spelling for all articles

message: I even will not ask whose sockpuppet changed name of the article. I will give up this one, but I will not agree about imposing this new name into every single article on Wikipedia. It was proven (even on this page) that both these names are used in English, thus we can use both of them in Wikipedia articles. PANONIAN (talk) 23:59, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems that User:NewYorkMan2210 did several unrelated moves from WP:RM as he saw fit. He was warned and his moves reverted. Duja 13:45, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: All right...

message: Panonian, hi, thanks for the changes.  I also saw that you were requesting a citation for the "common usage" sentence.  I added that, because I could not find any version of spelling of "voivodeship" in the Scrabble dictionary, nor in the New York Times Crossword Puzzle dictionary.  In my mind, if a word isn't allowable in Scrabble, then it's not considered a "common" word. :) Also, though the word is in the Webster's and Oxford dictionaries, it's not in any others that I've checked. --Elonka 00:13, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Common usage

message: In 19th century Polish "województwo" was written in English also as "Vayvodeship" .
rozek19 11:47, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh no. Please do not start new voting about name change. :) PANONIAN (talk) 03:00, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vayvodeship 

message: I wonder why is Serbian Vojvodina listed under modern voivodeships. There is no reason to do that, because it's a proper name of a region, not a name of a voievodeship. It's not a "voivodeship of Serbian Vojvodina". I realize that the Serbian name is derived from the common source, but in my opinion mentioning it in the first part of the article for reference is enough. What I mean is that you wouldn't list a hypothetical town of High Mountain in the list of mountains, would you?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Llewelyn MT (talk • contribs) 08:47, 11 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serbian Vojvodina