Talk:Sacraments of the Catholic Church

message: I found there is a similar section in Minister (Catholic Church)#Sacramental ministers. I suggest to combine these two section together and redirect one to the other. ppa (talk) 23:29, 21 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Validity and liceity of administration of the sacraments

message: Seven sacraments redirects here, yet the Roman Catholic Church is not the only communion that recognizes this number.  Is there a reason why it cannot stand alone as its own article?  I'd be willing to do that. fishhead64 (talk) 22:29, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be fine for Seven Sacraments to redirect to a general article on sacraments, Lord knows there are plenty of them already. Just be sure that wherever the references to Seven Sacraments are referring to the Catholic Church, that those links keep coming to this article.--EastmeetsWest (talk) 06:01, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I think Fishhead is absolutely correct.  I believe it is Romanocentric for Seven sacraments to redirect here.  I endorse either proposal above, that Seven sacraments go to its own article or to Sacrament.  However, I feel I should also point out the the opening to Sacrament is also POV toward the Catholic position.  (Incidentally, should I appear to be an anti-papist bigot, I was born, raised, and am a practicing Roman Catholic.)  Unschool 02:54, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Seven sacraments

message: Since Christ is the centre of all Christian life, sacraments are of Jesus. They do however happen in the Catholic Church. I'd rather see this article re-titled Sacraments in the Catholic Church. Thankyou. Alan347 (talk) 10:04, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have created a redirect of that name to the current article. As far as an eventual renaming of the article, that will take some discussion. I have some thoughts, but I am on vacation right now so I will have to come back later when I have more time. -Pax85 (talk) 19:03, 18 March 2011 (UTC)

text: Deacons and some priests receive all seven. Married men may be ordained in certain circumstances. Elizium23 (talk) 14:02, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Sacraments in the Catholic Church

message: The article has a section for each of the seven sacraments, some of which are rather lengthy (Penance is five paragraphs long). Each also has a "main article" link to an article on that Catholic sacrament or the Catholic section of an article on that sacrament. In many cases, the content here has little in common with the content in those larger articles.
I propose that we leave the larger articles to explain the individual sacraments. This article should focus on general principles of the Catholic sacraments.
The article is also very heavy on liturgical and canon law and could be broadened significantly. For example, the Catholic Encyclopedia article on Sacraments covers a much wider gamut. Echevalier (talk) 19:31, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The portions of the article describing the Sacraments are totally unnecessary and, at best, repetitive and at worse, misleading, and not readable for the average person.  There are articles on each and every Sacrament - we do not need another, especially this one. Mugginsx (talk) 21:12, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why sections on the individual sacraments here? 

message: This article should follow its title in defining the Historic origin and general principles of the Sacraments - not detailing the Sacraments themselves.  There are already individual articles on all of the Sacraments.  This article is repetitious, and is not written according to the Wikipedia:Manual of Style.  It it uses terms and ecclesiastical language which are more appropriate for a Seminarian or religious journal and are totally unfamiliar to the average reader.  The table is also totally confusing and much of the article violates WP:Article Scope. Mugginsx (talk) 21:49, 31 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article is beyond [[Wikipedia:Scope|WP:Article Scope]] and does not use language for the average reader [[Wikipedia:Manual of Style]].   

message: This article is incorrectly titled.  It should be titled:  Sacraments of the Roman Catholic Church.  If someone wishes to write another article on the Sacraments of the Eastern Orthodox Catholic Religion that is fine but these are two similar but different religions and are incompatible in the same article.
Agree to change article title to Sacraments of the Roman Catholic Church. Mugginsx (talk) 15:32, 5 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changing the title of the article 

message: Hi,
Not being a Catholic, I came to this page to understand what the sacraments are.  Instead I am met with a variety of "religious speak" which doesn't tell me anything.  Please fix this.
103.21.173.129 (talk) 00:32, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Indicating concretely what the seven sacraments of the Catholic Church are will perhaps overcome this difficulty.  Esoglou (talk) 07:44, 23 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  I don't understand it 

message: I move that we change the title of this article to Sacraments (Catholic Church). This title with parenthetical "Catholic Church" is in line with the naming convention for Catholic sacrament articles, and other religion sacrament articles, and is shorter as well. This action will need to be performed by an administrator, as there is already a Sacraments (Catholic Church) page with an edit history.  Canon Law Junkie §§§ Talk 02:04, 22 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Change title to ''Sacraments (Catholic Church)''

message: What is the Ordination of Kings? Coronation? Elizium23 (talk) 02:50, 20 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: A consecration, rather than a coronation. 2A01:E0A:209:DC30:77E8:9B53:146F:20D1 (talk) 18:43, 12 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ordination of Kings? 

message: Okay, so technically, in the Latin Church, the priest doesn't actually "celebrate" the sacrament of Matrimony but he witnesses it. The husband and the wife are the ministers of the sacrament. I don't think we need to muddy the waters with that technical distinction in that particular sentence. Elizium23 (talk) 02:46, 21 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  ...power to celebrate the sacraments, except for... 

message: The redirect Sacraments () has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Veverve (talk) 23:02, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Sacraments ()]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: The redirect Sacraments of the Living has been listed at redirects for discussion to determine whether its use and function meets the redirect guidelines. Readers of this page are welcome to comment on this redirect at  until a consensus is reached.  Veverve (talk) 23:05, 6 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  "[[:Sacraments of the Living]]" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]]