Template talk:English dialects

message: I know this isn't meant to be a complete list of dialects, but it seems to me African American Vernacular English should be on the list.  I assume it's considered a type of "American English", which is already linked, but I think it's distinct enough and widely-spoken enough to warrant its own entry.  I'll let someone more linguistically-inclined than me make any changes though. Tuf-Kat 04:22, Sep 12, 2004 (UTC)
:Not sure whether AAVE (or maybe Hawaiian English for that matter) is a major dialect. After all, it is spoken by a minority in North America, and is generally American English. Pædia 07:49, 2004 Nov 20 (UTC)
::Linguists agree that AAVE is a dialect of English. It's spoken by millions in the United States. How many people speak Manx English again? --Bfraga 06:26, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: However, AAVE != Ebonics. Ebonics is what AAVE is commonly called, but Ebonics refers more properly to the politics of AAVE in education and the classification of AAVE as a foreign language to secure funding for programs to teach Standard American English to AAVE speakers. I'm spelling out AAVE and removing Ebonics. Dave 03:15, 25 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: I know

message: I am going to add these to the list of English Dialects
*Received Pronunciation - BBC English
*Estuary English - South East England
*East Anglian English - East England
*Northern English
*West Country dialects - South West England (cornwall)
Not added but should be condsidered
* Cockney English - London England
* Geordie English - North East England (Northumberland)
* Scouse English - Western England (Liverpool)
* Ulster Scots dialect - Northern Ireland
Each one of these dialects are a distinct part of English and should be listed and acknowledged. I have left Cockney English here sicne I'm not sure if it can be considered a part of Estuary English or a seperate dialect. And I'm not sure if I should add the others or not. Thanks UKPhoenix79 03:21, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to what I've learned, Received Pronunciation is no dialect, merely a pronunciation of Standard English English, i.e. an accent. Since English English is already listed, I vote for removal of RP in the list of British dialects. NisseSthlm 16:35, 6 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Missing distinct English dialects 

message: I found this and I though that it would be interusting UKPhoenix79 04:20, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dialects 

message: This needs to be collapsible like . On pages with more then one template this prevents them all from automatically collapsing (eg. Australian English) . +Hexagon1 (t) 04:08, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collapsible 

message: I think this warrants a bit of discussion. Certainly llanito is a pidgin/creole but it may very qualify as an English dialect, the differences in linguistics are ambiguous enough to allow for some leeway. Windyjarhead 08:42, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed simply because in the Llanito article is also listed under pseudo-dialect of English, which I think is more appropriate. Not sure up to what point you could speak of pidgin instead mere code-switching, spiced up with some local words. As you said, the whole subject is quite ambiguous and open to interpretations. Feel free to restore it if you think so. Regards, Asteriontalk 19:10, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Llanito removal

message: In response to complaints about edit warring, which the history page justifies, I have fully protected this page for two weeks.  Use this time to get to consensus, please.  Should you come to consensus before that, you may contact me or use the  template to request an update to the page.  I am fully aware that at least half of you are going to be convinced (!!) that I have protected "the wrong version".  OK.  I protected the version that was here when I got here, and no administrator is likely to revert to a previous version before protecting (and thus compromising their neutrality on the issue) for anything less than blatant vandalism, which I'm sure we all agree is not happening here.
Good luck working towards compromise.  - Philippe | Talk 22:17, 28 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page protection 

message: The  form was deprecated, so I would like this page converted to the  form.  Simply delete the word "generic" in the first line, and also delete the "|style = text-align:left", as this is the default behavior in Navbox.  Thanks, --CapitalR 18:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: done. — Carl (CBM · talk) 19:07, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Convert to Navbox from Navbox generic, as Navbox generic was deprecated 

message: Mancunian seems to have been added to the box recently.  I think that this is very inappropriate when there is not actually an article for Mancunian.  I shall remove it from the box for now.  Lancashire can go in its place.
If an article is ever done, we might think about it going on, but I do not think that Mancunian should be called a "dialect".  What is usually meant by the term is a trendy Liam Gallagher way of talking.  That is not a "dialect" in the sense of a grammar and vocabulary that has long-term historical roots.  Also, modern Mancunian is not very "broad"; a speaker of Standard English would not have any difficulty understanding it whilst they would do with an actual dialect from, say, further north in Lancashire or over into Yorkshire.  There are one or two features of speech particular to Manchester, but that could be said of most towns in Britain.  I would therefore vote against Mancunian being on the list.  Lancashire is a much better article to have on there.  Epa101 (talk) 16:05, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Mancunian

message: The article on Llanito states that it is a creole based on Andalusian Spanish. As such, does it really belong in this template on English dialects? Theelf29 (talk) 19:34, 30 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Llanito

message: The way the Dutch (or even British people in The Netherlands) speak English could certainly be considered a seperate dialect. 82.171.251.173 (talk) 08:30, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There would have to be an article created before it could be added to the template. Kman543210 (talk) 08:34, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It depends, there is an article on Dunglish but this refers to some of the mistakes Dutch people make when speaking/writing English and not to the accent of spoken English in The Netherlands. I think making an article on the latter is very difficult since the accent of Dutch people speaking English can depend on factors like 1) Which accent of Dutch they speak and/or 2) Their exposure to x-accent of the English language (people who continuously watch e.g. American TV-shows generally have a more American accent and so on). LightPhoenix (talk) 17:35, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  I find it plausible that there could be a variety of American English spoken by Dutch Americans called Dutch American English. Gringo300 (talk) 20:43, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  True, but in this post we're referring to English spoken by people in The Netherlands (the majority of Dutch people speak a varying degrees of English as a 2nd language). However, an accent in the USA by Dutch Americans is probably more geared towards 1st generation immigrants in the past (since then people emigration to the US probably didn't know/speak a lot of English), than to any current situation. However, I don't have any knowledge about ethnic accents in the USA so I'm not sure at all. LightPhoenix (talk) 20:57, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Dutch English

message: Firstly, if this is a template for English dialects, why is Maltenglish in here? It is a code-switching phenomenon - not a dialect. Secondly, if Maltenglish is to be included, why is not Spanglish? Mingeyqla (talk) 20:37, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm pretty sure that Maltenglish would qualify as an English-based language, but not as a dialect of English proper. Gringo300 (talk) 20:45, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Each speech pattern should be considered individually - but there is no widely accepted litmus test for determining what is a "language" or "dialect" or "code switching" or what have you. Cockney rhyming slang? Ulster Scots? Jamaican patois? Spanglish? There isn't any good single answer for all of these. If you think something should or should not be included, add it or remove it or seek consensus here on the talk page. BE BOLD. Windyjarhead (talk) 22:54, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  ? 

message: Just wondering if there's any info on the accents of English spoken in Saint Helena and Tristan da Cunha? And Falkland Islander? LightPhoenix (talk) 20:29, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Saint Helen(i)a(n), Tristan da Cunha & Falkland Islander English?

message: I just noticed that Bermudian English is classified here in the category of Caribbean English whilst the article itself states that it is generally classified as a form of American (rather than Caribbean) English. Furthermore, as far as I know and can tell from the articles about Bermuda and the Caribbean the island is not considered a part of the Caribbean either but simply as a part of North America. I could be wrong, but is this categorisation then correct? LightPhoenix (talk) 18:49, 12 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Quite right, and Belize is not in South America, I think those were a case of "best fit" but imperfect sorting. i made a change - better? Windyjarhead (talk) 09:05, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks great! LightPhoenix (talk) 09:15, 13 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Bermudian English in Caribbean English category?

message: I think that a different template should be created for English interlanguages or code-switching. It could have at least the following articles: Chinglish, Czenglish, Denglisch, Dunglish, Engrish, Finglish, Franglais, Greeklish, Hinglish, Konglish, Maltenglish, Manglish, Ponglish, Porglish, Runglish, Spanglish, Swenglish and Tinglish. Note that some of these articles include Template:English dialects by continent but are not referred in it, such as Hinglish, Konglish, Runglish or Spanglish. HaŋaRoa (talk) 22:44, 3 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  New template for code-switching 

message: I suggest the template to be changed according to http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=XuWn7dNGyokC&pg=PA62&dq=Central+Midlands+Northeast+midlands&hl=en&sa=X&ei=qUbfUMfbCcvHtAbvkIHYDg&ved=0CDwQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=Central%20Midlands%20Northeast%20midlands&f=false. Sarcelles (talk) 19:40, 29 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but I don't think that I agree with this. Just my two cents on this matter. Bencarterj (talk) 08:18, 11 April 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dialects in England 

message: Dear user:Wolfdog,
How does Bequia English not exist when I created the page based on real books?
Thanks — Preceding unsigned comment added by KennedyBroseguini (talk • contribs) 19:10, 21 June 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Bequia English