Talk:Darwin, Northern Territory

message: "Established songlines penetrated throughout the country, allowing stories and histories to be told and retold along the routes."
This is misleading as it suggests that the primary function of the songlines was to allow the oral history to be told.  I suggest this is reworded.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.33.121.133 (talk) 11:25, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Songlines

message: I have doubts about the comment about Darwin being the only Australian city to be attacked in time of war as Japanese submarines shelled Newcastle and entered Sydney harbour [as industrial and militray centres respectively], which surely constitutes and attack. it is true howeve to say that Darwin is the only city to face any appreciable effects from an attack [in the Newcastle case at least there were no fatalities, and the shells didn't get anywhere near their target [the steelworks]]. I would have edited before, but if it's collaboration wekk, I'd like to be careful.
I really think the box about Darwin the person should be removed, it is irrelevant and contributes nothing to the city article.
:It did list the city under "things named after Darwin", but I agree it was largely irrelevant and only took up space. TPK 12:42, 15 Jul 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I have doubts about the comment about Darwin being the only Australian city
Your doubts are well founded. Townsville and Broome were also bombed by the Japanese during World War Two, though on a much smaller scale and without casualties.Ordinary Person 04:50, 12 February 2007 (UTC)

text: No - one attack alone on Broome killed 88 people.  Kransky (talk) 02:38, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

text: Broome is not a city.195.33.121.133 (talk) 11:27, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Japanese attacks

message: The article mentions Port Darwin, and has a wikilink to "Port Darwin"... but that redirects to this page. That's lame. Ordinary Person 04:51, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Port Darwin

message: I think it might be more useful if this page was named Darwin, Northern Territory (or whatever the longer, standard version would be), and the link to "Darwin" proper linked either to Charles Darwin or to the Darwin disambig page. There are enough things named Darwin -- almost all derivative of Charles -- for it not to be obvious what people are looking for when they type in "Darwin". I'm not sure the Australian city is likely to be the top of their list. Thoughts on this? --Fastfission 13:33, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm really not fussed either way, but it was Darwin, Northern Territory until very recently, when someone apparently thought that this was the most likely usage. Ambi 06:47, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: On April 10th, User:Duncharris deleted the old Darwin page (which redirected to Charles Darwin and moved Darwin, Northern Territory here. I think it would have been better to discuss it first. I'm inclined to agree with Fastfission: in general, an unspecified "Darwin" refers to Charles Darwin, I believe. Especially since this "Darwin" is named after the naturalist. I'll ask Duncharris about this—I think it should be moved back. — Knowledge Seeker দ 06:59, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: I checked and disambigged this a few months back.  By far the highest proportion of internal references to Darwin were to the naturalist. I have moved it back. --Tony Sidaway|Talk 10:05, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Not that I disagree with you changing Darwin (city) to Darwin, NT, I had just posted a message a second after you moved it... a bitch of a thing to have happpened :(. To the matter at hand, however, Darwin should not redirect to Charles Darwin, it should be a disambiguation page.--Cyberjunkie 10:10, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Especially considering that as the Australian Wikipedians Collaboration of the Week, there are now dozens of links to Darwin, meant to be coming here.--Cyberjunkie 10:14, 14 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: I wonder what people will think of that assertion in another 2 or 3 centuries.  Tomertalk 03:49, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: wow, that disambiguation page is impressive!!! ShearBlue (talk) 08:42, 18 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Page name

message: Re the quote "Melbourne's Western Bulldogs Australian Football League side plays several 'home' games at Marrara Oval each year", I know that was the plan but I think it has not worked out. I used to live in Darwin and now live in the Western Bulldogs area, but I'm not a footy fan - just remembering something I read in a newspaper. It needs checking. Bduke 02:11, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Western Bulldogs

message: No transport section?, why just one sentence metioning the Ghan (Adelaide-Darwin Railway) under history. 160.5.247.213 21:51, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Transport

message: I'm attempting to find some information about Territory Day, which is celebrated on July 1. I'm not too sure what it's for, but in Darwin we used to celebrate with fireworks and intoxication. Good times :) Anyway, I've been looking on the net for some help, but haven't found a reason for it. Is it just an arbitrary time to get more pissed than usual? (Having lived in Darwin for the past 5 years, I wouldn't put it past 'em). Or is it some sort of commemoration? I thought it had something to do with the Northern Territory being considered separate from South Australia, but I couldn't find any indication of that. Some help would be appreciated. Cheers! riana 13:53, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Territory Day

message: Do we need the unit conversions of km to miles and degree C to degree F? Surely we should just use Australian useage. --Bduke 03:11, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see why the conversions would be detrimental.  Most frequently edited articles I've seen tend to have both sets of units; only the order changes: metric first for (for example) articles pertaining to Australia and "imperial" units for United States articles.  There are likely many U.S. Wikipedians who read non-U.S. articles (such as this one) for whom the units conversions would be helpful.  Ufwuct 15:52, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Units

message: The blanket reference to it being unsafe to swim in the sea around Darwin is inaccurate.
It is certainly very unsafe to swim between about late September and May (the wet season), due to the box jellyfish (also known locally as 'sea wasps'). Box jellyfish have one of the most toxic and painful stings of any animal.
The crocodiles are not a threat, although the wildlife rangers are starting to trap more in the harbour area in particular, and there have been one or two sightings off the beaches near the northern suburbs. However, I can assure people that the crocodile situation is very closely monitored by the authorities, and always has been, and the locals would not allow to be any other way. I cannot recall any attacks around the Darwin area.
You are far more likely to be attacked by a croc while swimming in, or even just standing next to a fresh water river or lagoon, or estuarine mouth.
About 1-2 people a year get attacked by crocs in the whole of Australia. By comparison, tobacco kills many thousands of Australians a year. Death by croc attack ain't exactly a high risk.
Shark sightings and strong rips can occur on almost any beach in Australia, all year round, yet that doesn't stop anyone leaping in.
It is not particularly unsafe to swim in the sea around Darwin during the dry season (May-September, the southern winter).
:I removed "As the worlds largest reptile and most dangerous crocodile, no waterway in Darwin should ever be entered unless specifically declared 'croc free' by an expert. Lake Alexandria is a man-made lake and is generally considered safe." which was added by 209.239.243.21.  In addition to the reasoning and argument above, I doubt that a man-made lake would be safe at all; in Florida, alligators can be found in any body of (fresh) water, no matter what formed it.  That's a great advantage of walking on land! Enuja 03:08, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are safe water holes in the Top End that are croc free but I've never heard of Lake Alexandria so I'll have to visit the Darwin Library tomorrow. - Bidgee 03:29, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lake Alexander (note spelling) was built in the late 1980 or early 1990s and is just behind the beach in Fannie Bay at the beginning of the road to East Point. Is is quite close to the old Gaol. It was safe all the years I was in Darwin until 2004. --Bduke 05:51, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: 195.33.121.133 seems to be right.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Python541 (talk • contribs) 16:04, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Swimming in the sea

message: The fist paragraph in history makes no sense to me whatsoever, who are the Larrakia and what are songlines? --Mdhowe 05:15, 7 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: History section

message: This article is really really short of references and needs to be fixed. There were three but they had incorrect syntax and 2 did not show. I have added a "Reference" section and cleaned up the 3 that did exist. However is a page of a Quiz a good source for anything? Please add many more. --Bduke 00:34, 22 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: Could some one possibly find out the Degrees, Minutes AND Seconds for Darwin and fix it???? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 203.158.45.83 (talk) 08:29, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Coordinates

message: Interesting that the ABS summary page includes the East Timorese population as one of the most significant, yet in the detailed stats, they appear to be bundled in the "other" category.  --Biatch 06:41, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: East Timorese population

message: Out on the push bike today and found a site on Gardens Hill. It's very hard to read the sign but what I've worked out it says is "Headquarters Australian Postal Institute Darwin Branch". Maybe if anyone can find any history and if it's notable maybe it could be added into the Article?
 
Cheers! -- Bidgee (talk) 12:46, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Hi, sorry I'm just a tad late in response. Just ask some locals, maybe the local council, museum or what have you, about it. Find out about it from local sources and then you will see how worthy of addition it will be. Again, for history about the place, you seem a local and the best people to ask are locals - heck, some older folk may've even worked there back in the day! Xfiles82 (talk) 15:47, 4 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Old history?

message: I am sure the statement "Darwin is one of Australia's most modern capitals" is factually correct.  But what value does this statement actually bring to the article?  There are far more notable facts about Darwin you could include based on absolute rather than comparative measures - the only Australian city destroyed by war, the only Western city in the tropics, the least populated capital city in Australia, highest indigenous population, first city presided over by a Chinese mayor, rainiest capital, closest to Asia etc.  Stating that it is one of the most modern capitals (out of a field of eight) is a pretty piss-weak fact.   Kransky (talk) 14:03, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Incidentally I'd note Cairns and Townsville are both in the tropics. Orderinchaos 15:34, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Most modern - notable?

message: Darwin is tropical and people think Darwin=humidity. It would be helpful to have some rferenced data on humidity in the climate section. Alos the InfoBox photo is a strange choice. It does not appear to show any features in detail that distinguish Darwin, being mostly sea and sky. ROxBo (talk) 14:03, 26 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Humidity and Info Box photo

message: The paragraph about high and low level income suburbs is not supported by the citation. Karama and Malak have the same income distribution as other northern suburbs and indeed inner city suburbs. I would like to see this paragraph removed.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 124.171.111.73 (talk) 21:24, 26 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Darwin and Suburbs

message: The aboriginals are mentioned in passing, out of curiousity what do they call Darwin/the Darwin area? 203.25.1.208 (talk) 07:38, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Aboriginal Name

message: Perhaps we should have a second chart, I added one, but it was undone by Bidgee. My view was one showed the information in plain table form, whilst the other showed it in an easy to visualise form (i.e. you can see the dramatic difference in rainfall and the lack of difference in temperature.
Here is the chart:
It has been done before: Climate of Adelaide
Here's the other chart:
My user is: Iamstupido (I just can't be bothered signing in)
It also didn't look so much like two graphs with no writing as it does here... There was adequate writing to 'fill the space'
60.241.184.127 (talk) 13:10, 14 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Add a second chart

message: Considering the checklist has been completed, who thinks this article is ready for GA status? I know I do.   Oakley77 (talk) 00:23, 31 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Is the status important?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Python541 (talk • contribs) 16:08, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Checklist Complete

message: Hi, i just uploaded this file to commons:  without knowing right away what the actual name of the church was but wanted to describe the image. I noticed that this article does not even mention the word church and using more external search i finally ended up on Roman Catholic Diocese of Darwin#Cathedral but that was rather inutitive given that i was not sure if thas was a Roman Catholic church. And even in that article the section on the cathedral is completely empty. So maybe some locals feel like extending that a bit, for now i just added my image as a starter. Cheers, Mutante23 (talk) 22:19, 23 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  St. Mary's church / churches in Darwin 

message: There is a discrepancy between the Geography section and location data. 
Geography has Darwin 3137km/1949miles from Canberra whilst the Location data says Canberra is 3969km/2466miles. 
In addition the Geography section says that "Malaysia and Singapore are only slightly further away.......". Malaysia is a large country and as this paragraph refers to capitals then should this not refer to Kuala Lumpur and the distance to that?
122.57.34.175 (talk) 12:42, 3 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geography and location 

message: The introduction claims that Darwin is a "gateway" between Australia and SE Asia. TRis claim is misleading. It's too expensive to send goods thousands of kilometers overland to and from the southern population centres. Ships travel directly to the major centres as do flights. Everything in Darwin is expensive as it has to be brought in from great distances. Darwin's role is that of an remote regional service centre for mining and tourism in the land and waters of northern Australia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Provocateur (talk • contribs) 22:00, 17 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Gateway to what?

message: Perhaps the image of Darwin area from the ISS inserted by Fotaun might be worth including at thumbnail size? Dry season fires are a characteristic feature of the area.     Djapa Owen (talk) 13:55, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It is.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Python541 (talk • contribs) 16:11, 20 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fire image 

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message: Darwin was visited by Concorde at least once (I have a photo but only managed its nose, not having security clearance), in 1975 or 1976. Was it the only landing of the aircraft in Australia? and has anyone a precise date? It would be worth a mention. Doug butler (talk) 03:30, 4 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aviation: Concorde 

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message: AusE isn't rhotic so there won't be an /r/ in this city's name, particularly not a flapped one as the IPA suggests. Also, the second syllable is unstressed so the vowel will be a schwa, a prominent AusE characteristic. Thus /'dɑ:wən/. To BrE ears, the AusE pronunciation of the first vowel sounds close to æ but it's definitely long. The audio-recording bears this out. It seems to be the voice of an Australian person and the pronunciation isn't rhotic. (So often folks think that an /ɑ:/ has an R in it when it hasn't!) The attempt to transcribe Garramilla is futile without some IPA; where, for example, is the stress? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 110.175.153.209 (talk) 07:36, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Totally agree. HiLo48 (talk) 07:55, 30 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: pronunciation

message: Article currently says;
 The discovery of gold by employees of the Australian Overland Telegraph Line digging holes for telegraph poles at Pine Creek in the 1880s spawned a gold rush, which further boosted the young colony's development. 
Other wiki pages say the first discovery was 1871 (at Pine Creek) and that the claim "it was by pole diggers" is dodgy. Other wiki pages imply the gold "rush" had started by 1872. 
Note: History of the Northern Territory says 1880s for Pine Creek. 
I can’t find anything reliable on Google. 
Many sites say 1872.
This says an 1870 find for Pine Creek, and an immediate rush. 
MBG02 (talk) 13:03, 9 November 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gold