Talk:Henry Bellingham, Baron Bellingham

message: I removed the part that claimed that Bellingham is a descendant of John Bellingham (c. 1769-1812), Spencer Perceval's assassin. It was unreferenced and false. Bellingham is a descendant of John Bellingham (1781-1826) (peerage.com, and Kidd, Charles, Williamson, David (editors). Debrett's Peerage and Baronetage (1990 edition). New York: St Martin's Press, 1990). Tryde (talk) 09:43, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This certainly appears to exclude the possibility of direct descent - John Bellingham (1781-1826) obviously isn't the assassin. I don't think he had any first cousins called John, although I only had a cursory glance. Possibly John Bellingham who killed the prime minister was a more distant relative of John Bellingham who is Henry Bellingham's ancestor. The MP's ancestors are well-to-do Anglo-Irish. Nothing is known about John Bellingham's family other than that his father was a land surveyor/miniature painter, based in London, who married a woman from St Neots. So it is possible that he came from this same Anglo-Irish background - until someone proves otherwise. Meanwhile there are a number of sources, including Lord Walpole in Hansard, referring to him as a direct descendant, so I am not taking it out, but balancing it with a source saying he has a family connection. I will add a footnote about Burke's when I have seen the genuine Burke's. As for Roger Percival - at least it says it is just a claim. If he is really a descendant of Perceval in the male line he might be in for an earldom as there is a doubt over whether the 12th earl of Egmont who recently died has left an heir who can inherit the title! Or possibly one of Perceval's female descendants married a man called Percival. Or possibly it is just not true but makes a nice story. Lord Walpole, by the way, really is descended from one of Perceval's sisters.Southdevonian (talk) 10:59, 12 May 2012 (UTC)
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