Talk:Life in the Iron Mills

message: Article is looking very good!  Maybe you should break up the "Lit. Analysis/Themes"  section into subsections to better organize the different main thematic issues in the text.   Seeing also as you've mastered the use of images - - perhaps a couple of images to illustrate things, especially in re industrialism.  (See this page on Crane's [The Open Boat])  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Profhanley (talk • contribs) 17:12, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggestions

message: There is a good secondary body of writing on Davis's text, e.g. Laura Hapke's Labor's Text  or even The Columbia History of the American Novel.  E.g. - - ditch the "e-notes" references and sources!  Profhanley (talk) 14:53, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: On sources and references

message: Hey guys! Like your page, and diggin' the citations -- it makes for a good, interesting, straightforward article. My only gripe, however, is to italicize the title of the text, tighten up grammar. Good job dudes! Giusti18 (talk) 04:42, 27 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Feedback

message: If you want to add the "Legacy" section back, please do so with prose. Viriditas (talk) 09:59, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Empty section removed

message: Per WP:LEAD, the lead section should summarize the most important points in the article.  This may include:
*Genre 
*Author 
*Setting 
*Plot 
*Primary themes
*Critical reception 
*Literary analysis
*Influence or impact 
*Legacy
Two to three paragraphs is acceptable for an article of this size. Viriditas (talk) 04:11, 30 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lead section 

message: Entire phrases and sentences of the plot summary are copied word for word from this Encyclopedia.com article. If for some reason you need to use somebody else's exact words, consider using brief quotations. Just citing the source is not enough when you are reusing their exact copyrighted words. I'd suggest reading Wikipedia:Copyright violations.
You also might be helped by Wikipedia:How to write a plot summary. Plot summary is a section where it is ok to use the story itself as a source. (For interpretation or analysis or themes you still need to cite secondary sources, but for the bare simple plot you can cite the story itself.) Cloveapple (talk) 20:43, 1 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: File:PlagiarismHandout.pdf might also be a good handout for the whole class. Cloveapple (talk) 01:33, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Since nobody has fixed it, I just removed the whole section. (I probably should have done that at the beginning.) It would have needed to be rewritten from scratch without copyright violations. If you need to use exact quotes, remember to use quotation marks. Again, I suggest reading Wikipedia:How to write a plot summary and :File:PlagiarismHandout.pdf Cloveapple (talk) 22:33, 7 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright issues 

message: Just checked out the "What Work Is" page.  They've done a nice job expanding a pg. that didn't have much to begin with.  I did suggest something that may or may not help them out to beef up their pg. a bit.  Check out the suggestion I left.  Maybe it will kick start a discussion of how we can look into connecting "Life in the Iron Mills" to our current economic situation.MattHeitland (talk) 22:21, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It might be appropriate if and only if you have sources that explicitly make a connection between Life in the Iron Mills and something current. Cloveapple (talk) 06:29, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Note to group

message: I need help in inserting an image. I did the format and already uploaded the image, but when I embed the file it doesn't shows up. Any assistance would be appreciated.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Erikar345 (talk • contribs) 23:39, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like capitalization was causing the problem. The actual file name says "JPG" but the link that didn't work said "jpg". All fixed now. Cloveapple (talk) 17:51, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Inserting an Image

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