Talk:Betty Boothroyd

message: Who is the source, if any, apart from Lady Boothroyd herself for the reference to her having been a Tiller Girl?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Marktunstill (talk • contribs) 14:45, 19 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Tiller Girl?

message: I dare say I'm displaying my ignorance here, but are there any grounds to substantiate the listing of BB in the category "LGBT politicians from the United Kingdom"? Vilcxjo 00:40, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: her partner is the actress Patricia Routledge. Arniep 01:08, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Really??!! Any evidence of this? Quis separabit? 17:56, 24 March 2014 (UTC)

text: That's gossip at best and complete speculation at worst. Only source I could find was  which is not promising. I would love Betty Boothroyd to be family in two senses but don't think it should be included here. David | Talk 01:15, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: it's been known for years they do live together. Arniep 01:21, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not according to the IMDB which says that Patricia Routledge's partner is Phyllis Claymore . In any case, in the absence of any public announcement by Betty Boothroyd, it's an unverified claim that should not be in an encyclopaedia. David | Talk 01:26, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't trust anything on imdb. Arniep 01:30, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I notice the LGBT category was added to the Routledge article (by Arniep) and reverted twice (by two different editors), with a talk-page request for evidence which wasn't followed up. I really don't think the glitterforbrains reference found by David is anywhere near sufficient for encyclopaedic purposes. If there's nothing more substantial, it ought to go. Vilcxjo 02:26, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

text: No evidence having been adduced in support, I'm removing the category. Vilcxjo 18:49, 23 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: LGBT?

message: Is she a Labour politician? As an ex-Speaker, won't she be a crossbencher? Computerjoe's talk 10:41, 19 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Labour Politician? 

message: A few points on the recent grammar edits:
1. "She chose not to but also stated that any subsequent Speakers would be free to choose to wear the wig" is grammatical, but "She chose not to but also stated that any subsequent Speakers was free to choose to wear the wig" is not grammatical.  "Speakers was" is an error, and although "Speaker was" would correct the worst of it, "would be" is better.
2. "casting vote" is not a legitimate compound noun.  This part could be "casting a vote" but "the casting of her vote" is much better.
I do not think this is an American/British English disagreement, but if I am wrong, I'm eager to learn.  However, I'm quite sure that "Speakers was" is not valid in either variant of English.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 17:18, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: As the editor who reinstated edit described at #2, above, I went to the OED for support but found but little: the specific definition and structure is there ("That turns the scale, deciding, decisive...as in casting voice, vote, weight") but it was listed using "casting" as a participle, and not the gerund necessary  for my construction. An example of this structure would be "parking lot" (and I'm on strong grounds here, at least, because Peters gives "car park" as one of her examples of the form). My edit summary reasoning was faulty; I can now only rely on the OED example, and the highly subjective (and therefore not admissible) "that's the form of words used in England". I'm taking no blame for #1. --Old Moonraker (talk) 17:51, 26 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok to all of that.  :-)--Jimbo Wales (talk) 06:04, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Points of grammar 

message: The article mentions that she was created a Life Peer, but does not state that she is a Member of the House of Lords. This is a glaring omission.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.99.156.73 (talk) 16:25, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Member of the House of Lords