Talk:Vicar

message: I came to this page to find out about the difference between a vicar and a parson, and I'm having a hard time understanding the information on this page.  Could someone add some description that would help a more general audience?
:I've added the information to this article and to parson and curate. Basically a parson is a parish priest who receives the temporalities of a benefice and is either a rector, vicar or perpetual curate. I hope this helps.  — Gareth Hughes 11:49, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Explanation for a general audience

message: Formatting that encases the framed table of contents in text, in just the way a framed map or image is enclosed within the text, is now available:  in the HTML does the job. 
Blank space opposite the ToC, besides being unsightly and distracting, suggests that there is a major break in the continuity of the text, which may not be the case. Blanks in page layout are voids and they have meanings to the experienced reader. The space betweeen paragraphs marks a brief pause between separate blocks of thought.  A deeper space, in a well-printed text, signifies a more complete shift in thought: note the spaces that separate sub-headings in Wikipedia articles. 
A handful of thoughtless and aggressive Wikipedians revert the "TOCleft" format at will. A particularly aggressive de-formatter is User:Ed g2s
The reader may want to compare versions at the Page history. --Wetman 20:06, 9 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: In my opinion, we should let the reader decide how they want the TOC displayed, as it is easily changed by editing their personal css style sheet. Gentgeen 17:30, 19 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Distracting blank spaces

message: Wrong, no, incorrect.
VGs and EVs are "ordinaries" only with regard to exercise of their power, not with regard to source. Their jurisdiction is vicarious, which is why they are vicars, eh? That is, the source of their authority is delegated, hence they are delegates, which is why the VG loses jurisdiction with the death of the bishop (Cn. 481). They are, in fact, properly "quasi-ordinaries" in that they exercise functions by the law itself (475, 479), and so are ordinaries in the exercise of their office, but their jurisdiction is derivative (479, in that the bishop may restrict or limit their jurisdiction). "This is vicarial jurisdiction, delegated as to its source, but ordinary as to its exercise, and which would be more accurately termed quasi-ordinary. In this sense vicars-general and diocesan officials are ordinaries." (Boudhinon; cf Sagmuller). In short, as you have it written, VGs are equivalents of diocesan bishops, which is emphatically not the case.HarvardOxon 21:25, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I resolved this properly, but in order to avoid copying my response into each page that this note appears, I direct all interested parties to see my talk page and Talk:Vicar general for the response. Pmadrid 04:27, 30 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ordinary and PMadrids edits 

message: The Roman Catholic Diocese of Erie in northwestern Pennsylvania, USA, is divided into three vicariates, each consisting of three to six counties (or parts thereof). See Map of Erie Diocese But when I search "vicariate" in Wikipedia (and in the Catholic Encyclopedia online), only the term "apostolic vicariate" comes up -- a Catholic administrative unit where a diocese doesn't exist, typically in the developing world. A search of Google reassures me that at least three American dioceses (Newark, Detroit, Hawaii) have subdivisions called vicariates. No doubt there are more. I recommend that the term vicariate be identified and discussed in Wikipedia from the perspective of its hierarchical role in Roman Catholic administration in the articles on Diocese and Parish. Seems to me it should also be in this Vicar article because of the nature of the word itself. Pat 08:00, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roman Catholic Vicariates 

message: I cant find this info in the article --71.113.234.160 (talk) 05:52, 2 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The duties are not a matter of celibacy. The religion is. Latin rite Catholics are; most others aren't. Student7 (talk) 01:52, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Are vicars celebate? 

message: This page rather seems like it could do with being turned into a proper disambiguation page. While the various theological posts discussed all have shared characteristics, they aren't all necessarily of interest to a general audience; for instance, to get to vicar (Anglicanism) you've got to drill through half the article at the moment. Chris Cunningham (not at work) - talk 17:01, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: The meaning and history of the term vicar is a useful encyclopedia subject, one that includes the example of Vicar (Anglicanism). Breaking subjects into the smallest possible elements is the work of the dictionary, and in its very nature sheds information.--Wetman (talk) 17:43, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Hmmm. Is there genuinely that much common ground between the archaic use and the modern? At the very least the lede should devote more time to the latter. Chris Cunningham (user:thumperward: not at work) - talk 18:51, 20 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split? 

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