Talk:The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber

message: This great short story is analized quite poorly, not even one word of Mrs. Macomber's adultery, which is a crucial part of the short story. Better have someone who is truly devoted to Ernest clean up this article
A group of Wikipedia administrators are at work revising Wikipedia_talk:No original research. Better have a look. --Wetman 07:57, 9 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: And now everything is about the story. Wikipedia is not a vehicle for original analysis. It can however report analysis from a notable source. 81.178.97.3 21:28, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This is totally wrong,  the essence is the relationship between a man and a woman,
who has the power in the relationship,
and when that power equilibrium is disturbed, the consequences.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.134.213.226 (talk) 18:55, 14 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: The essence of The Short Happy Life of Francis Macomber is courage

message: The analysis section consists of one sentence? Truthkeeper88 (talk) 22:15, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, it's pretty weak, but some editors feel strongly that this material belongs, so I expect they'll expand the section.  If not it'll probably get removed soon. EeepEeep (talk) 22:37, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do not accuse me of adding a direct quotation to a wikipedia article as you have done here. The source is available on the web and appropriately linked. Have a read, and feel free to add even more! Truthkeeper88 (talk) 23:01, 13 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Analysis 

message: I've reformatted the sections according to WP:NOVSTY and added a short story infobox. Waiting to hear whether I can use the image I uploaded earlier today, or whether I should upload a different image of Hem in Africa from the JFK Library. This article has promise but needs a little work. Would still like to see the longer plot summary reinstated, but am leaving this for now. Will return in a few days. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 02:31, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reformatting & other progress 

message: Interestingly, Lynn has yet another view on Macomber. He agrees with the assessment of the flat-eyed, redfaced (literally bloodyminded) Wilson as embodiment of the British empire, good at blowing the heads off animals and doing whatever he needs to do to control the world, however it has to be done. His .505 is his symbol of overkill, as we said. But Lynn believes EH thinks of Margot as simply pure feminine instinct, much like the unfairly-hated wife in Kilimanjaro, who even that character recognizes is not at fault for a marriage that does not work. If she'd wanted Francis dead she'd have let the buffalo do it. She responds to the manly-man Wilson, but can't help herself, inasmuch as Francis has about as much manhood as Jake Barnes, when the story begins. Lynn observes that Margot begins the tale by indicating her preference for a gin drink named for a boring tool (Wilson's drink) rather than the squishy yellow one that Francis is going to have. She says she needs it. :) That's clear. And she gets it, but EH views that as simply the way woman are. In Lynn's view Hemingway is split between the Francis personna he's afraid he has, and the Wilson one that he wants (but also fears), and who is due the tributes paid him. Wilson does indeed say all the bad things about Margot, but on the other hand, he's a controlling bastard, too, and they may not be true. An excised paragraph from The Green Hills of Africa EH says almost exactly the same thing about his idea that you become a man when you lose all fear (and he also decides that his father has been a coward for killing himself), but Francis' death may simply be the accident that it seems to be (of course Wilson will use it against Margo). The real EH was pissed off at the time that his Havana girlfriend at the time (Jane Mason) had gone to Africa and been snapped up by a white hunter (not Percival, a guy named Cooper), but his statements about Margo being a bitch in later years may not be trustable. At the time he wrote the story, he didn't feel so disparagingly toward women (even American women) as he later came to feel. SBHarris 05:07, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is all good stuff. I won't get to back to this article in the near future, but you should add it in the themes section if you have time. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 13:03, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lynn 

message: Hi.  I was wondering if it makes sense to add a reference to Philip Percival, and Hemingway's 1934 Safari (pictured in the article)?  Maybe also a reference to Bror Blixen?  I was reading that Wilson was modeled after the two of them, mostly Percival. I couldn't figure out a good place to add this to the article though.  Anyone have any suggestions?  It is also interesting that one of Percival's proteges, Sydney Downey, worked with the crew of the movie, "The Macomber Affair," when they were filming it, but maybe that's too trivial to mention.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Macomberaffair (talk • contribs) 13:36, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: This page needs considerable expansion. Thanks for the suggestions. Feel free to add anything yourself. Truthkeeper88 (talk) 16:20, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philip Percival 

message: "The Short Happy Life of Frances Maccomber" was adapted into a radio play on an episode of NBC University Theater.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.57.229.254 (talk) 22:01, 5 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adaptations 

message: Substituted at 08:24, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment