Talk:GE P30CH

message: These weren't built as a result of dissatisfaction with the SDP40F as the article currently claims. Nor were they ordered after the initial 40 EMD's as claimed. They were ordered at a time when over 100 of the EMD's had already been delivered and more were on their way and their reputation was still largely intact with the oldest just a few months old. 
They were bought for stopgap HEP service on Boston-New Haven trains until F40's arrived with Florida trains operated over the Seaboard Coast Line that commonly used GE power the ultimate destination for them. The SDP40F's were for long haul services and the 150 units ordered were adequate for those needs. These were cheaper, had some commonality with the new GE E60's that handled Florida trains in electrified territory along with Seaboard's U-Boat fleet, and would be ready in time for the Amfleets while the F40PH was under development to handle short haul services. 
In fact when they were new, it was the ride quality of the GE's that was in question. The E60's were proving to be disappointing riders and these had the same trucks and Amtrak refused delivery initially. And even when they did, they cancelled their second order of 25.
SDP40F issues happened in the future. The F40PH wasn't designed to take their place and these GE's weren't ordered as a result of any problems. It just happened that way since the F40PH was the right locomotive in the right place at the right time. Beyond some complaints from crew members on rough track like on the Milwaukee Road in which the SDP40F's were deemed to be fine, the first hint of an issue was the Floridian derailment in October 1975. And it took several more incidents before the design was called into serious question during 1976. Yet the Pooches were ordered in 1974 and most had already been constructed when that derailment happened. 
They predate Amtrak's SDP40F issues and Amtrak was quite happy with the EMD product at the time these were ordered.
* Thanks for your feedback. Most of what you objected to was indeed added without sources over the last couple of months and I've removed it. I can't speak to Amtrak's attitudes toward the P30CH beyond the article in Pacific RailNews which says they weren't popular, but that's a retrospective view. Mackensen (talk) 14:01, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
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