Talk:Case Closed/Archive 2

message: I must say I was forced to temporarily remove the blurb relating to the plagarism inquiry. It was poorly written and clearly not done so by someone with a mastery of the English language. Do not get me wrong, I am open to its existence... just in a readable form. Please re-write it and do not simply revert it, as in its former form, it simply made no sense. Homazu 18:55, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "Inquiry" on Plagarism Blurb 

message: Sry about awaking an old topic, but why were the american names used? i mean isnt that a sabotage on the original product? if dub names were to be used, why werent all anime/manga entries on wikipedia written with dub names? (thankfully no dub names are used in all the others) should we revert Kuririn of Dragon Ball to "Krillin"(American dub) or "Crilli"(Italian dub) then? no ay? why should this be the odd one out? i'm maltese and i watch DC on an italian channel and the original names are used, so i dont care about "Jimmy" but i'd identify "Shinichi" immediately. so do millions around the world. Furthermore, sometimes there's no consistency. sometimes you see "Kaminski" and sometimes you see "Kojima". can anything be done to ensure consistency and loyalty to what is original?
:Because there is no consensus on names, and it was using dub names when it was created. See Talk:Case Closed/Name dispute discussions. BTW, if the dub names would be used in the most of the English world (US, Canada, UK), it has a bigger case than it's usually be...--Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 01:20, 21 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming? 

message: What´s the right spelling? I see that both spelling is used for the last name of Ran and Kogoro. --ckorff 12:35, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Heinlich... Mouri can also be written as Mori. WhisperToMe 06:53, 18 September 2005 (UTC)

text: No you aren't. That's not even the Hepburn form. WhisperToMe 22:49, 19 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Not true. According to MOS JA, people naming works differently. VIZ romanizes as "Mori", so... WhisperToMe 18:39, 31 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Except the rules of Hepburn explicitly state that "ou" becomes "ō" if the sound is "ō". WhisperToMe 02:09, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mori or Mouri 

message: Are all of the characters listed in the article that important that they need their own wikis (which someone seemed to imply by giving them all internal links)? Currently, there is plenty of room here to give a sufficient description and picture for each one and if that becomes untrue one day then someone can separate them into a different article likely named "Characters of Detective Conan" or "Detective Conan characters", which seems to be the trend with other very popular animes.--Kamasutra 22:01, 11 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Important Characters? 

message: Since someone added a list of episodes, I think it's best to make a page for those episodes. --Snkcube 06:40, 22 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Been there, done that -- Genesis 15:59, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Episode guide 

message: When I caught it on Cartoon Network, it was on too early in the morning after watching Adult Swim late into the night, and then going to bed. Detective Conan was shown after the repeat run. Also it didn't have the "Truth" song by Two-Mix, which I came across before hearing about Detective Conan, which I found out about from its relationship to the song.
The reason why AS did not intent to continue was not because it has poor ratings on AS overall, but because the ratings fell on the wrong demographics-- 14-18 years.Samuel Curtis 15:34, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poor ratings on Adult Swim? 

message: Okay, before I start an edit war myself, lets discuss this: Should the characters names be listed with the Japanese original version at the beginning and the english translation thereafter or the other way round? While I prefer the japanese ones (I'm from Germany, so I only knew those before I read the article) I'd still say that this is an article about the English release of the anime/manga, so it should be those names that are mentioned first. -- Genesis 16:08, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As long as they are both there i dont think it matters too much. IanC 19:29, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No matter which is which, the order should be the same so all articles are consistent with one another. WhisperToMe 23:02, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd suggest both original japanese version (for international people) and english version, if you feel up to the task. :) More complete that way. Raystorm 15:31, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Order of names 

message: It is proposed that that article to be merged to here. However, I personally think the content is non sequitur to the type of content here. I propose that it to be merged to Haibara Ai.
Needed comment from Conanian Wikiers.Samuel Curtis 15:34, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move [[APTX 4869]] here? 

message: While its worthwhile having a picture of one of the volumes of the manga in the entry, how about putting a screengrab of the logos for Case Closed and Detective Conan in the info box instead?
Ive already got a screen grab of each, but i (a) dont know what options to choose in the upload file section and (b) thought it would be best to talk about it first.
IanC 18:16, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Putting the shows logo(s) in the info box 

message: How many volumes does the manga have?  I've got 49, but I'm sure there are more (I get them from France when I go there, hehe).  The series is still going on in Japan, right? And there must be special volumes too, I guess.  Should we make a mention of it in the article? Raystorm 15:29, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manga Volumes 

message: Appreantly this talk page was not moved when WhisperToMe moved the main page to Case Closed (This is now Talk:Detective Conan (Case Closed)), and we need admin approval to move back. Give your opinions on whether it should be moved. Personally I am for this move to bring conformity. SupportSamuel Curtis 14:12, 25 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Support Of course this has to be moved. This title is totally redundant. The pages name either has to be Detective Conan or Case Closed and as no consensus was reached on that matter, it should be Case Closed for now -- Genesis 09:10, 27 April 2006 (UTC)

text: It must be moved back. The guy who moved it didn't ask us if he could move it. WhisperToMe 21:52, 25 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Support --日本穣 Nihonjoe 17:42, 26 April 2006 (UTC)

text: Done Ashibaka tock 00:36, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move of the Talk Page 

message: As I can see, there are several people arguing on whether Conan has been aired in Finland.
See the following edits:
04:06, 30 April 2006 24.81.113.191 (Finland was first added)
19:41, 1 May 2006 81.17.194.29 (Finland removed)
23:17, 2 May 2006 64.12.117.11 (Finland added)
23:18, 2 May 2006 64.12.117.11 (Finland removed again)
I feel like a revert war in horizon...Samuel Curtis 15:51, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert War over Finland? 

message: Samuel Curtis deleted this sentence as "rv vandalism."; <FONT COLOR=red>"Case Closed has strong similarities to Detective Picasso (1983) by Yoshihiko Funazaki, so some people are suspicious of plagiarism." </FONT> But I do not think it is vandalism, because it is a fact, strongly relevant fact to Case Closed.  I understand how fans want to protect the reputation of their idols, but wikipedia is not a place for advertisements but an encyclopaedia, so we should treat facts as facts here. I think his behaviour is reasonable as a fan, but unreasonable as a wikipedian. --1523 08:09, 20 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism? 

message: * Is Case Close currently airing of the FUNimation Channel? -- Al1976 20:40, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yes. Samuel Curtis 01:43, 27 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broadcaster in the US 

message: Today I put the list of DC/CC music into a sub-article list since it is long and tedious-- and not very useful for the causal reader.
In addition to it, I would propose many other things in the main article to be put into sub-articles to shorten the length of the main article, including:
*Cast
*Movies
I am tempted to move Characters into a sub-article also, but I think it'd be a bit too controversial, so let us decide on the above two first.
The questions here are:
#Should the two sections mentioned above be moved into seperate sub-article (lists)?
#If the answer for (1) is Yes, how should we organise these sub-articles?
Samuel Curtis 07:32, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reorganization of the main article 

message: A few days I have just found there's already been an entry for DC/CC Movie 6 (The Phantom of Baker Street), and I am now on that particular article.
The problem is the name of the movie. The exact name of the movie in Japan is of course Meitantei Konan-- Beika Sutorīto no Borei, which would be translated into Detective Conan-- The Phantom of Baker Street, using official translations. However, since the main article is Case Closed, we may also also call it Case Closed-- The Phantom of Baker Street for conformity. So what is suitable for this-- without the series name, use DC as the series name, or use CC as the series name? Samuel Curtis 07:38, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naming Conventions for Movies 

message: Per Wikipedia:WikiProject Anime and Manga#Sections, voice actors are listed with characters and should not be listed seperately.
On the other hand, the character section is also long and unyieldy. According to what I read in different articles in FA-, A- and GA-class, they have different presentations ( Excel Saga completely deleted the character list; Believers and Planetes#Characters list 3-4 of them.
I propose, for the time being:
:#Merging the Cast section into the Characters section by the use of  template.
:#Creation of a List of Case Closed characters which is currently a duplicate of the merged Case Closed#Characters.
Discuss your opinion on this here. If, after a week of this posting, there is no opinion posted, I would implement the said changes.Samuel Curtis 12:28, 3 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion of the [[Case Closed#Cast|Cast Section]] Plus [[Case Closed#Characters|Character Section]] Reform 

message: It was mentioned in the Article that the rights were given back due to low ratings but episodes were still being released on DVD. I am wondering are these episodes subbed only or are they still making dubs for thoese episodes. Its something I have thought about a few times but kept forgeting to ask. --My old username 20:55, 4 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Question regarding DVD's 

message: In the exception of Movie 1 (The Time Bombed Skyscraper), which is going to be released by FUNimation soon, I think there is a necessity to add the Detective Conan prefix to all DC/CC movies; since this is the official name.  I need opinion to procees. --Samuel Curtis 06:47, 22 September 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Technicly, those movies don't exist in english, so, if the title has the name "Detective Conan" in it, I agree, if the name is not in the title, it's not part of the title. My oppinion around in other sections is probably worth less then in the One Piece section, as I'm not a frequent editor anywere else. (Justyn 19:04, 12 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opinions Needed: Blanket Renaming of DC/CC Movies 

message: I'm sorry for this newbie question, but: What does "serialized in" mean?
thanks,
(Me-pawel 03:51, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It means circulated in a magazine. E.G. it is seen in Shonen Sunday. WhisperToMe 04:03, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Serialized In 

message: I keep on clicking on it and it continues to redirect me to the main article. Was it deleted or something?
--Magicbulletgirl 23:02, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone redirected it; someone felt like the character is too minor for his or her own article. WhisperToMe 00:22, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Eisuke is about equivalent to Harley/Heiji or Serena/Sonoko as a recurring character in the recent manga. He appears frequently and is an active participant in the overarching storyline. So, if anyone besides Conan, Kogoro, or Ran warrants a page of their own, Eisuke does. 65.2.88.118 08:14, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you think it's necessary, you should write it. --Samuel Curtis-- TALK 08:18, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where is Eisuke Hondou's page? 

message: As discussed in Talk:Case_Closed/Name_dispute_discussions for many, many years, I think the conclusion right now should be:
*If that name has been Americanized, use the Americanized form.
*If not, use the Japanese form. If the name of a character that has an American version appeared in the title of an anime episode, etc, and the episode's title has no American version, the characters' names in such title should be kept Japanese.
*The usage of name has to be uniform.
I hop all editors of all DC/CC related articles should take note of this: especially the third. It is not very sightly to see Jimmy Kudo in one place and Shinichi Kudo in another. --Samuel Curtis-- TALK 08:29, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification of Naming Convention in DC/CC articles--discussion 

message: Movie 11 has been named . The name of the movie in kanji is 紺碧の棺, with the 棺 ateyomi'd Jolly Roger. Can anyone make a romaji of this? Thanks! --Samuel Curtis-- TALK 15:38, 5 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movie 11 Naming 

message: Way too much info on the anime, and absolutely nothing on the manga that originated it (not even some basic info about how many volumes there currently are, and so on). It's a pity since the manga is really great. Is there no one here that has read the manga and could write about it?  Raystorm 17:46, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unbalanced article 

message: I don't know why this article was disambig'd with (manga). I have posted a question to the mover's talk asking for a rationale for this move, but I wonder if this move is necessary. --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 18:59, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name Change 

message: Please read every word on WP:AN#Important_notice_regarding_fair_use_that_all_administrators_should_see. Before a fixed policy on fair use images has been adopted, it is not wise to put on any more anime screencaps. --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 16:25, 9 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New policy on Fair Use on Horizon 

message: I wonder, given the bulk of uncategorized articles in the CC category are the movie articles, should be categorize the movies also, since they fall into there?
-- also, the movie article need cleanup. Either too much cruft or too short. --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 19:08, 25 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal: Categorizing DC/CC Movies 

message: I think the picture for this article can be better and should include about every character in the series. So, I'm changing it.--Kid1412 02:38, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Picture 

message: I've be having a Wikibreak till the end of April due to pressures surrounding PhD admissions. I would possibly still be editing but at a lower rate.
May all editors note: Please consider verifiability when writing CC-related articles, esp when it deal with non-content-related material. This is the reason why the CC article, given its length, is still having the "Start" grading. --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 14:17, 3 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikibreak till end of April 

message: I decided I can't leave Wikipedia; I ended my Wikibreak 2 days ago.
I clarified about the Notability problems around articles that is made for individual articles of anime; the answer is that they are not notable unless proven otherwise. (See WT:Anime#Clarification_of_Notability_of_Individual_Episodes_of_Anime). Thus, I see most articles in :Category:Case Closed episodes would be considered non-notable and would likely to be deleted.
I would like to expand the current List of Case Closed episodes in the way of List of Fullmetal Alchemist episodes in which every episode would came with a short synopsis (OK, due to DC being a mystery series I don't expect the short length of synopsis as in the FMA list) and have a small picture, and the ultimate goal is the removal of individual ep articles-- came to think the ep articles here are even more detailed than some more well-known DC fansites, one can see we have a lot to cut.
But since I don't own any articles, I need input. --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 11:34, 11 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I am the person who converted most of the list to the form it currently is in.  I would suggest that you try converting say maybe the first 10-20 of them into that format (making sure to save a backup on your computer of any articles you de-reference/delete) and then ask people then.  I am personally open to the idea, although I just don't have the time or the patience to do it. KumoriKage 07:07, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fate of the Anime Ep Articles 

message: Case Closed"the dubbed version" stopped airing in america and had about 50 episodes.
while the original"japanese" is still airing and it reached like 467 episodes.
It should be edited to "Detective Conan" —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.226.241.235 (talk) 13:03, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's still airing in America on the FUNimation Channel. And the DVDs are still being released. The title should stay as is. My eyes see all 22:03, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  It's well-known as detective conan, not case closed. 

message: :To Piotrus: It is also the official name for Canada and the UK.--Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 16:31, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To Nandesuka: The fact that the anime version of the series is aired on YTV as Case Closed and the manga is published by a UK publisher as Case Closed proved it is the official name of the series in these markets. On another point, the changes FUNi etc made to the series is mainly cosmetic; ie names. There is a mild but not exactly important change in plot-- and I don't think this is the material for another article. --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 14:41, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

text: *This point is not reasonable in particular. Say, what are disambigs are used for? --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 12:41, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, but I had to strike the google search point from the summary. Correct google searches absolutely endorse "Case Closed". You need to restrict the searches to English language, per "All domains, but only English language" (In the 'naming conventions' page). Google searches, when done according to instructions, support "Case Closed", and doesn't produce any results in favour of "Detective Conan". Bladestorm 14:56, 12 April 2007 (UTC)

text: this goes out to Izuko . if we were supposed to use the name that was FIRST introdused then in the final fantasy 7 case wouldn't Aerith be known as Aeris? that was her first name. and if thats true then go right ahead and use DC and not CC but then Aeris would overrule Aerith. i know this doesn't make much sence (i personaly  like Aeris better anyway) but it proves my point even if its just a little.Dark reaper6789 18:13, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I can handle this one, Izuko. What you are bringing up is not a complete name change, but a case of engrish by Sony; something fairly similar to the Zoro/Zolo debate. The fact of Aeris/Aerith was, in subsequent releases, SquareEnix (the people that made the game rather than distributed it) refered to the character as "Aerith", opposed to the older "Aeris" (I'm taking someone else's word on this, however: I've yet to watch the movie myself). This is a case where the names were changed, apparently, just for the hell of it. (Justyn 18:53, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: The debate seems to now have covered all the arguments anyone has to make. Time to make a decision. Quick summary:
1. Wikipedia favours the most common name amoung native English speakers. There is no concensus over which name is more popular. Google favours Case Closed, however the results are contested as the phrase is common, and unrelated/keyword spam sites are included. There are no sales/download figures available to show which name is used more widely in distribution, and no way of polling a significant number of impartial people.
2. The Animax network broadcasts and English language dub under the name Detective Conan in countries where English is a primary language. The official commercial title in three major English languages countries (UK, Canada, US) is Case Closed. The level of distribution and availability in these countries is difficult to cite, however it is known that some CC material is now "deleted" in the UK and still available in the US.
3. It has been suggested that Case Closed be moved to a separate article, or a subsection. This has been largely rejected.
4. Wikipedia does allow for a vote to be taking in situations where there ambiguity remains. So far, the votes are 6 oppose and 18 support.
Unless anyone has any other compelling and new arguments to make, it seems like this is the position on which a decision will have to be based. Assuming that point (1) is correct, it seems that Wikipedia:Naming conflict#Ambiguity persists must be invoked and a vote taken. Are the results so far acceptable as a vote? Mojo-chan 17:29, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Without calling it a "vote" neccessarily, I'd say that a 3:1 ratio support:oppose is a fairly convincing consensus.  I think it's time to do the move. Nandesuka 17:35, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think RM admin would reall the the discussions above; this section is just redundant. And has consensus been arrived at anyway? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Samuel Curtis (talk • contribs) 21:44, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: From what garnered, what Mojo said was that there is basically nothing else to truely add to the discussion at this point and everything past here would just be circular discussions that only end when one side shuts up and gives in. (Justyn 00:25, 17 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Summary and decision time

message: This is the ENGLISH wiki, not the Japanese wiki, so leave it "Case Closed; that's my oppinion. Dark reaper6789 17:58, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: How could you edit my post. The way I wrote it struck fear into peoples hearts! :3  Dark reaper6789 17:49, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div>
I have left it a long time before coming to a decision, and I have repeatedly studied the arguments given for and against a move. In the end, I couldn't find enough justification for a move to Detective Conan. It is not used in most English-speaking countries, for instance. The most compelling reason would be one of accuracy, since most of the episodes have not ben released under the name Case Closed, but it is clear that if official translated versions were released, they too would bear the official name Case Closed. Move requests are not votes, and much of the argumentation for the move was based on invalid arguments. This in no way entails that all the related articles must be at titles based on "Case Closed"; an article about a film which has not been released under a "Case Closed" title should remain at a "Detective Conan" title. They must be decided on a case-by-case basis. It was requested that this article be renamed but there was no consensus for it be moved. --Stemonitis 10:10, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm curious as to what's "invalid" about questions of accuracy.  The series IS known as Detective Conan in English-speaking countries.  While that may not be the official release title, it's one by which it was first known and is still well known.  How is that invalid?  Izuko 20:29, 23 April 2007 (UTC)

text: I didn't say "all", only "much". There were also valid arguments on both sides. --Stemonitis 14:19, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  here it the primary reason Detective Conan, and Non-dub names should be used, it is IMPOSSIBLE, at the current time to even cover 1/4 of the Contect of the subject in english names, as they do not exist. A large number of important and central chracters have not even been introduced yet in the English version. as to Series time Detective Conan is the english name the author himself gave themselves series. --Roguebfl 01:05, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: case closed

message: I don't want to create another real poll while there's still one ongoing, but I just wanted an informal gauge of how many people might support something:
Having two articles. One for Detective Conan, in its entirety. One for Case Closed; the english adaptation of it. (Separating content between the two as appropriate)
Obviously there's a real poll and a real discussion going on, so I'm not looking for a fleshed-out discussion here, just a quick gauge. So, please no arguments on this one; I just want to see if this is worth pursuing at all. Yay or Nay. Bladestorm 22:18, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The major difference isn't the name change, the major difference is that Case Closed only hads about 50-odd episodes out of maybe 500, so there are lots of things in Detective Conan that are not in Case Closed (at least in the anime), and because the franchise is failing in the US, probably never will be.  Ken Arromdee 17:54, 16 April 2007 (UTC)

text: *Isn't it already like that.--Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 12:37, 12 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: *Not really, compared to some articles I've seen, some have a section specifically for differences between the english and the japanese versions. Here, you sort of have to read everything and pick things out. --<-Winged-> 02:07, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Oh, sorry. This one's a definite "Nay" all around. (I just wanted to see if the current poll itself was giving the right options. But it does seem as though most people want it a single article, whatever the name used) Bladestorm 17:28, 13 April 2007 (UTC)

text: i think that most people want it case closed due to this being the english wiki. but i could be wrong. :) maybe you should make a poll about that? I personaly think that it should stay the same because...it would be annoying as hell to change EVERY case closed into detective conan, dont you think?Dark reaper6789 17:31, 13 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alternative to outright move 

message: All editors on Case Closed articles,
Please read WP:ATT and WP:CITE and provide proper citations for everything you add and those already added but not cited. I'm not in the position of giving every citations; I'm especially weak in Dark Organization-related articles. I would start clean up by deleting fan speculations or materials that on the face lack direct literal support. --Samuel CurtisShinichian-Hirokian-- TALK·CONTRIBS 15:01, 4 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  OK, Everyone, please [[WP:CITE]]! 

message: Please do not add fan speculation the story to any article, this is original research and would never pass the muster of WP:ATT. I would start the removal of such material as necessary from today.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 12:22, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Final Warning to Character page editors 

message: Given the generally episodic format of this series, I don't see every episode of the series notable, and, hence in my opinion, some of the currently created episode pages can be deleted. I have nominated On Location, TV Drama Murder Case, a season 1, anime-originally, and generally considered filler episode, for edition. Please give your opinions on Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/On Location, TV Drama Murder Case. --Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 13:18, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[On Location, TV Drama Murder Case]] Nominated for Deletion 

message: I think it would be good to organize the information concerning box office gross in a table of some sort.  It may make it look more presentable. Jezebel Parks 12:31, 21 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have a problem about this. --Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 16:08, 21 May 2007 (UTC)

text: You can't beat that if Toho decided that it's the official English name retroactively.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 06:26, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Well, I changed it to say "English Title" so it could mean either the translation or the title of Funimation's release(s).  Jezebel Parks 06:38, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. 72.144.112.119 11:11, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movie/Box Office Info 

message: I didnt know where to put this (I'm new in this kind of things) but i noticed that the "List of Case Closed music tracks" says that:
"Kimi ga Ireba" is in chapters 62, 65 and in movies 1,2,4,7,10 while the true is that appears in more chapters and also in more movies i think. For example i've just heared it in chapter 38.
I, also think, that this article should use the real name of the Serie (Meitantei Conan or at least Detective Conan) and the real names of the characters (Ran Mouri, Kogoro Mouri, Shinichi Kudo, etc)
Sorry my english ;)
Fernando Basteiro
:The names thing is just above this, at #Requested Move.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 17:59, 23 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music Page and real Names. 

message: Do we really need to have the Case Closed box under its own "Navigation" page section? Other anime series that have those boxes don't give them their own page section. (YuYu Hakusho; Naruto; MAR) Artist Formerly Known As Whocares 14:32 (Eastern Standard Time); 28 May, 2007.
:I noticed that the Case Closed articles have a navigation section, and I've been deleting them when I come across them.  Feel free to delete any that you find. Jezebel Parks 19:13, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Navigation 

message: Shouldn't there be some mention of the anime/manga differences.  For instance, I think I remember reading in the manga (I don't remember chapters) that the Black Organization played a role both in the Time Bomb Express (Episode 5, 5) and Mystery Mastermind (Episode 14, 13)among others. (I'm using Case Closed title and episode # first, followed by Subbed episode #). In the anime, references to the Black Organization have been removed and replaced by an unrelated villain. Unless I missed something, could someone take a look at this? 71.59.104.213 23:24, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Manga/Anime differences 

message: Hello... i just noticed that in the music section there is no mention of the original music composed for the series. I don't mean the songs... i mean the music composed by Katsu Ohno Band. should that be also under music... or it should be mentioned under a different heading? A J Damen 07:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Music 

message: Since Viz manga has renamed Ai to Anita Hailey hence gave this name some legitimacy, there is a necessity for a WP:RM process on whether the article should be moved to Anita Hailey. Please discuss at Talk:Ai Haibara.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 08:54, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move Request for [[Ai Haibara]] 

message: Does anyone else think this has a shot at being named a Good Article Candidate? It's already a very strong B, has great citations (With only the one "citation needed" and the unsourced box office numbers being the only things needing citations), with the images needing a good fair use rationale as being the only flaw in the article. When the images get a good fair use rationale, and has the right sourcing, this will be ready to become a Good Article candidate. FamicomJL 21:09, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good Article Candidate 

message: # I have removed all :Category:Case Closed cat from all episode articles since they all belonged in the subcat Case Closed episodes.
# The name consistancy in those episodes are bad, down right from the title. Some use CC naming and some use Japanese naming. Due to the precedent in #Requested move I suppose the CC naming is preferred (since those episodes all have CC names), but I wonder if a WP:RM procedure is needed in this case? --Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 21:36, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two things on episode articles. 

message: I believe that these articles should be moved. Jodie (Case Closed) --> Jodie Starling, Hiroshi Agasa --> Herschel Agasa, Black Organization (Case Closed) --> Black Organization. Following the example of Amy Yeager being the CC name, I already moved Mitch and George too. Post if you have any objections. -Thriceplus 16:27, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why do you think the Black Organization should not be disambig'd? The problem of Jodie is, actually, not every DC/CC reader know her name is actually Starling. She is more known as her alias in Teitan, Jodie Santemillion-- and I think that's why the article creator tried not using the last name. --Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 18:47, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, how many Black Organizations have you heard of? But, I suppose there might be others out there somewhere. As for Jodie, it seems, at least to me, that there's no need to leave her name disambiguationed if we already we know her name. -Thriceplus 23:02, 16 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move Requests 

message: OK, now for name of the characters we have Japanese common form (Name-surname), kanji and revised hepburn (standard in accordance to WP:MOS-JP), and even Viz and FUNi can't agree on the names used. (Gin and Vodka is the best example) Hence I want someone to make something not unlike :Template:Infobox Korean name to show all names clearly...--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 02:01, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have made a template for showing all these names: Template:Case Closed names, with documentations of use. Please give comments as necessary.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 16:26, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Making sense of the current name mess 

message: Given the current climate against fair use images, uploading any CC-related images is not recommended.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 04:57, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fair Use images 

message: I have made a new article, List of Hiroshi Agasa's inventions, to move the current "gadgets" section of Jimmy Kudo in the reconstructuring of the article. Please add suitable content as possible, since the article has been quite stubby.
Also, my final version of the revised Jimmy Kudo article is in User:Samuel Curtis/Jimmy Kudo; please comment on its contents.
--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 19:48, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New article in the category 

message: As many editor's here know, each volume of the manga contains a mystery character profile.  Since the list will have more add ons every few months, I was thinking of moving them to the manga section where it would be better organized.  Antiyonder (talk) 00:09, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Case Closed Manga Mystery Library 

message: Given current Wikipedia policies, there's a limit of how much DC/CC info we can put on Wikipedia. Hence, I have started a DC/CC wiki project to contain what is needed in an in-universe style. You are welcomed to discuss at http://conanpedia.proboards106.com.
Of course, I did not ask anyone not to edit DC/CC-related articles on Wikipedia according to guidelines.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 21:17, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  DC/CC Wiki Project 

message: Decided to make a table of the music themes, including international versions incase some fans may be interested. I'm pretty someone may delete the international themes, but please don't without speaking to me first, as the table was time consuming. In addition, there are other anime articles that have this information incorporated in their articles. You are welcome to finish the table. Thanks. CH (talk) 04:21, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Music Tracks page 

message: Under Genre "Romance" is listed as one of them. Although it is true there is some "romance" in this show, and the relationship between Jimmy and Rachael are shown, Serena Sebastian and her love interests, and a few episodes about Valentines day ,  I think "love and romance" take a back seat to the main genre of "Mystery" . There is not a lot going on in  the romance department. I don't think this should classify as a romance, but I did not remove it because I want to see what you guys think. (maybe there is a good reason it is there that I am not understanding). Please post here if you want it to be removed or keep it there.  (I have watched almost all the dubbed episodes , a few other ones, and both dubbed movies)- Prede (talk) 02:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Romance genre label is not appropriate. Case closed is not a romance show, though it has romantic elements, like most shonen. Song lyrics have no bearing whether actual content is 'romantic'. By comparision Romeo x Juliet would be considered a romance show, not comedy, despite the inclusion of some subtle comedic elements. AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 16:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree with AtaruMoroboshi , song lyrics have no bearing whether the show is a "romance" show or not. Any other imput? It be helpful. - Prede (talk) 19:28, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've removed Romance from the genre list with an edit summary to refer to talk page. Any additional concerns can be discussed here. AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 19:41, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I love these simple discussions. My proposal: change Drama to Comedy-drama, add detective fiction, and we're pretty much done. Except what about the level of fantasy? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:46, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I support the change from Drama to Comedy-drama. Detective fiction seems appropriate, but I'm hesitant. A quick look at Detective Academy Q shows that genre is not listed there. I don't think Fantasy should be included. AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 19:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Perhaps the genres there need to be discussed. "Detective fiction" is more of a style of literature than a genre, but the point is the same. The amount of magic is too small, you're right, so no fantasy. Thoughts? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 19:58, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  At this point, I'd support changing Drama to Comedy drama . As you said detective fiction is more of a literary categorization. AtaruMoroboshi (talk) 20:04, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  It would still be appropiate (have to sort through some categories though). I have to go, but I'll return later with an idea for the genre box. Regards, Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:09, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I don't supporting putting "fantasy" up there. As for Comedy-drama that I do think is a good idea. AND as for the Detective fiction thing I think it makes sense to put it there, as long as you keep Mystery fiction there as well. - Prede (talk) 21:18, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: "Detective fiction" is a mystery sub-genre; there's no need to keep "Mystery" when (or if) the change is made.--Nohansen (talk) 21:52, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind the proposal I was going to present, we can conclude with this. Any questions? Comments? Concerns? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 20:29, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  I am happy with how it is right now. Thank you all. - Prede (talk) 00:03, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I fixed the genres now. Those are the genres that we all agreed on correct? I'm pretty sure that was all, but maybe there was a third one? If that's not what we agreed on please say so. - Prede (talk) 21:57, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Took care of it. Just a thought but would adding police procedural be a bad idea? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:11, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Conan is not a police detective, he's a private (amateur) investigator. You're Under Arrest and Patlabor are anime/manga police procedurals.--Nohansen (talk) 22:16, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What about Tokko and Lupin III? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 22:22, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well "Police procedural" could work, even though Conan is not a police officer, Megure, a (semi) main character is. And many episodes do involve the police, then again some do not. It would be a stretch though. My question to you is would adding that, then make us remove "Detective fiction" , becuase if so then we should not add it. "Detective fiction" works just fine, but keeping "Detective fiction" and then adding "police procedurals" might be repedative, but I would support it. Just don't remove "Detective fiction". "Detective fiction" seems the best to me at least. But it's fine the way it is now too - Prede (talk) 23:15, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Both detective fiction and police procedural appear to be different sub-genres so both could be acceptable. I vaguely remember the show so let me ask you, what is the main focus on: Detective work? Or Detective work and police work? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:23, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Detective Work is the main focus. Althoug a magortiy of the episodes involve the police, and they conduct their own investiagtion, to which Conan and Richard help (Conan useally solves them through, useally useing Richard). There are also the rare episodes in which Conan helps the police, and Richard is not there. This being said there are 3 other "types" of episodes that tend to happen (although not as much), that never involve the police. One type involves Conan and the children, in which Conan solves a mystery or focuses on Conan as a detective and his detective work(along with the Junoir Detective Legue helping him). Another type involves Richard and kids, and Conan may either use Richard to solve the crime, or solves it himself (no police). Another type invovles Conan, Rachel, and Serena. Conan uses Serena to solve the crime and these focus on detective work as well. So to sum it up about 3/4 of the episodes (that I have seen) useall involve the police investiagtions although that is not the main focus of those episodes. They mostly focus on Conan as the Private Investigator/detective (finding clues and such). The rest of the epsiodes to do not involve the police at all. - Prede (talk) 23:35, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  So do you feel the extra genre should be included? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:37, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  it is kind of like it is that genre 3/4 of the time. lol. The other quarter it does not at all fall under the genre. So I guess it could be included, although the above user disagrees. - Prede (talk) 23:38, 25 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Nohansen might change his mind. Further, I'm awaiting his response to this. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 23:48, 25 April 2008 (UTC)

text: You have missed my post. Conan is not a police officer, but the police are still there, and relevent in some episodes. Thoughts? - Prede (talk) 01:00, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The point is that just because Conan works with (or for) the police in some cases, doesn't make the series a police procedural. For it to be a police procedural (or police detective series) the main characters must be police officers working to solve the crime. It's the same thing with Lupin. Lupin features Zenigata trying to catch Lupin, but it doesn't revolve around Zenigata solving how Lupin stole what or catching him. That's why Lupin is not a detective series.--Nohansen (talk) 04:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Nohansen, do you plan to create "police detective series"? Such a sub-genre would cover up quite a few things, especially Prede's concern. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:23, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What I'm considering is creating a sub-category for police detective animanga series like Patlabor and You're under arrest. The article on the genre already exists: Police procedural.--Nohansen (talk) 04:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh. I think that's a good idea. Why don't you? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 04:38, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I haven't settled on a name. I'm looking for more articles to populate the category before creating it. And it's not really a top priority. The articles can be included added to :Category:Detective anime and manga in the meantime.--Nohansen (talk) 04:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 05:06, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What about Whodunit ? Is that a genre? Eitherway it should get at least a mention on this article. Thoughts? - Prede (talk) 05:18, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

text: The "Whodunit" is a specific kind of detective story and probably the most common example of the genre. Another is the Locked room mystery, to which I believe Detective Conan has dedicated at least an episode. Maybe the list of episodes could identify the "mystery of the week".--Nohansen (talk) 05:33, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah I remember a lot of random "whodunit" occurrences in the show. What we really need is one genre and one category which emcompasses all of these crime-related themes. Nohansen said he was trying to come up with a name. Have you any ideas Prede? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 05:36, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Genre Romance? 

message: I was just watching an episode from the 2nd season and the calendar clearly shows the year to be 1988. But this article states "Original run January 8, 1996 – ongoing " shouldn't it say 1986? I could have sworn this show started in the 80's. I always thought this show started in 1986. Where is the source for this(the 1996 starting date)? I also think this page used to say 1986 as well. Anyone know when it started, or have a good source for this? If it really did start in 1996, then it is probally taking place in 1986/1987/1988ish time frame. Should that be mentioned in the artcile then? - Prede (talk) 01:44, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What does Anime News Network give? Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:25, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I looked there before I posted this. It's very confuseing,it doesn't even seem to mention when the show first aired in japan, or when the first started or anything like that. Thoughts? http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/encyclopedia/anime.php?id=454 - Prede (talk) 03:43, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No idea. You might wanna try alerting WP:ANIME. Click here to begin a thread on the talk. Lord Sesshomaru (talk • edits) 03:48, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I made a post about it there. Thanks for informing me about where to go, although I am still clueless on this matter. I still think it may have started in 1986 (or around then anyway), but there are no sources. Although starting in 1996 is a possiblity as well. Hmmm... - Prede (talk) 04:08, 26 April 2008 (UTC)

text: (posting here, too) The manga first appeared in the May 1994 issue of Shōnen Sunday, while the anime began airing in Japan in 1996. Both are still running. ···日本穣? · Talk to Nihonjoe 01:40, 27 April 2008 (UTC)

text: the calender was in and abandoned building, it was mean to be old. --Roguebfl (talk) 03:23, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you all. I am now pretty sure it started in 1996, however a source for the article would be nice. Same goes for the Case Closed Episodes list, Sources would be nice. - Prede (talk) 02:53, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've recently been cleaning up, expanding, and referencing the Case Closed chapter list, and volume 1's Japanese source shows it as having been released in 1994. Since the manga predates the anime, I'd say that's a pretty strong argument for a start in 1996. *suppresses chuckle* —Dinoguy1000 17:57, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  orignal run? 1996 or 1986? 

message: Hi guys. I am not sure if this belongs here, but I need some help with editied the second movie of Case Closed. I am trying to improve the article, and I am currently working on the plot section. I'd like to make it at least as good as the previus movie. Any help would be appreiciated. The page needs a good copy/edit, more info added to the plot, sources, and more info in new wiki-chart I made. I post this here, instead of in the articles that need expansions spot, because I figure you guys might have seen the movie(sense yoru reading the Case Closed talk page), and it will take some people who have seen the movie to improve the article. So if you can help out, go to the the that artciles  talk page , or start editing it now. Thanks in advance.  - Prede (talk) 00:47, 26 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a Survey regarding name changes in the movies, if anyone wishes to participate in it, it's right  here . I don't care too strongly about this, but this way more can vote in this and we can deal with it sooner. - Prede (talk) 02:59, 6 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Use the japanese names, I beg of you. More people would be able to watch it then.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Spinningfox (talk • contribs) 06:55, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Case Closed: The Fourteenth Target]] & other Movies 

message: It has been nominated for deletion. Should it be deleted or stay?  Voice your opinion here. I have stated why I believe it should stay at that link. - Prede (talk) 19:24, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[List of Hiroshi Agasa's inventions]] 

message: Sense the issues has been raised, what do you think better orginizes the Movie Section on this page. I think the chart does wonders, it orginizes it in a  very neat, useful way. I think it used to be in prose form a long time ago, but this made it look less sloppy. So should it be left alone (stay in wiki-chart form) , or be made into "prose" (written) form? - Prede (talk) 05:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: To "offically" ad in my view, I strongly feel the section should be prose. The movies should be listed in release order, with the titles in the proper  template, details on director/producer (where different, release date, a short (1-2 brief sentences) summary, and English licensing. The current table really just lists titles and release making it little more than a catalog. The first two paragraphs of the section, on movies 10 and 12, are a partial implementation of that idea. Prose is neat and tidy, particularly when well written. If the section gets too long, which is likely with the number of films, then they can be broken off into an appropriate list, and the section here reduced to a lead out to that. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 06:01, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Oh, well what we used to have there was nothing more then the names of the movies, year they were released, and amount of money they made, written in prose (I think). That's why they made it into a  chart so long ago. If there is enough info to turn the whole movie section, into something similar to the first two paragraphs of the section, then it would be nice to add to this article. I thought you meant remove the chart, and just write out (almost in a list) money they made, and year released, and title(nothing more). That is what was there, and that is what looked messy, so they turned it into a chart.  For now though, the chart works. I don't know if there is enough info to make the whole section like the begining, but if there isn't we should just keep the chart indefinitely. - Prede (talk) 06:09, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You could write a short paragraph saying a Detective Conan film has been released every April since 1997 and split the chart into a stand alone list, like what AutoGyro did with Lupin III's TV specials section.--Nohansen (talk) 15:30, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is, AnmaFinotera, you have removed the incoming numbers, together with the citations.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 15:50, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the box office numbers were unreferenced, and that belongs in the reception section. That, however, has no relevance to whether or not the movies should be listed in prose or a table. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 17:40, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Unreferenced? Check this diff again, you actually removed the references for box office numbers. OK, those websites did not work any more, but when I added them, they worked. I thought links that don't work any more can still be references.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 17:46, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The paragraph above them was referenced (and in absolutely horrible fashion...over 10 links shoved in a single REF!). The links don't work, however, so they can not be verified. Dead links must be replaced in order to still be references, with with the updated link (if moved) or an archive link (if available). -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 18:08, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why not use < br / >,  in the chart? other charts use them(where needed) for displaying the English and Japanese names of Movies(Tv speaciles), and it helps orginize it. As of now, it is starting to look a bit messy, and streches the column over more then neccessay. Either use < br / >, or create a new column for kanji and Romanized titles of the movie. - Prede (talk) 18:53, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

text: The BR is unnecessary, and it doesn't look messy at all to me. Its supposed to fill the column, that's kind of how a table set to fill the width works. The titles should not be put in separate columns. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 18:56, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  What is everyone else's thought's on this? I just think it looks ( a little) messy , and useing  BR would clean that up. A new  column would work too. I don't mind that much though. Just a suggestion... - Prede (talk) 19:00, 23 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  The table is meant to be turned into prose eventually anyway, right? If so, there's little reason to worry about how it looks. Regardless of that, though, I feel that neither  nor a seperate column are necessary, and that the table looks fine now the way it is. —Dinoguy1000 19:07, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

text: I'm now worried on this section. Not that I can't make it into prose, but the possible length it would ensue. It would make it potentially longer than the anime section, not to say the manga section. (I need expert on the manga thing. It was kept this short mainly because of a lack of published, reliable source...--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 23:32, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movies Section 

message: I have no reason to believe the following DC/CC character articles would possible to have off-universe notability in the forseeable future:
*Chianti (Case Closed)
*Korn (Case Closed)
*Tequila (Case Closed)
Although I'm not prodding or afdding them yet, but I want relevant editors consider merging them into List of Case Closed characters.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 17:34, 30 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have raised an AfD for these articles. Please discuss accordingly.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 20:57, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The only one I can consider keeping is Chianti, sense she is in a few episodes. However sense I have not seen past episode 83, I don't really know how important she is. If all these characters are minor, please merge all the important info (and the sources I found for them) to their section on the character page. I did do some work fixing up their sources, so it be nice if you keep that info alive. - Prede (talk) 23:47, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have time, you can move those you think as important. --Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 23:50, 5 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You mean Merge the characters and the important info(and my sources) into the main character page? Will do. - Prede (talk) 00:03, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Come to think of it, I'll do it tomorrow or the next day. Been really busy lately, thus me absense on Wikipedia. Just on to check watchlist really. Make sure those character pages are not deleted before I merge them. Thanks ^.^ - Prede (talk) 00:40, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Just got your message, Samuel. Chianti and Korn have appeared in a few episodes so far(425, 464, and in several episodes of the recently aired longest BO arc: 491-504) Therefore, their importance in the series may enhance over time, but as of currently, I don't mind the merge since their roles are limited. The only article I don't approve is Tequila (Case Closed)  since he only appeared and died in one episode and has one or two flashback scenes. CH (talk) 19:43, 7 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  The proposed deletion of several DC/CC character articles, per [[WP:FICT]] 

message: The short stories (名探偵コナン 特別編) exist! There are 31 volumes.
You can see here, here and here, so don't remove it!!!!! --Horsee (talk) 10:48, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: ...please. Those are called "Special editions." No wonder even I was confused.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 12:56, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

text: What Samuel said...those are not "short stories" those are re-releases of the original. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 15:44, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No; they are original manga that uses CC/DC characters but are not drawn by Aoyama, but his assistants. For some reason, they are called Special Editions. Horsee, please use the nomanclature of Special Edition.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 17:09, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Those don't get an infobox then, just a short section in the media section. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 17:51, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Short stories 

message: There have been discussions on the fate of this article, and also the APTX4869 section of List of Case Closed characters. My idea is to merge these two into an article List of Case Closed objects-- what are your opinion on this?--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 23:24, 13 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Idea of what should be done for [[List of Hiroshi Agasa's Inventions]] 

message: A lot of the refs are broken links.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dragonsblast (talk • contribs) 01:03, 24 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, the movies are in prose per consensus and the MoS. The episode pages are in the appropriate table format? -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 02:15, 24 August 2008 (UTC)

text: I don't see any weird starting line? And new pages made for what? The episodes? -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 06:53, 2 September 2008 (UTC)

text: It looks like someone started to do separate season lists, but didn't finish. I'll work on fixing that, though it will take a bit. -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 00:35, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: AnmaFinotera, please switchback the content relevant to non-Japan, non-Anglosphere distribution of the anime.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 03:23, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Huh? -- AnmaFinotera (talk · contribs) 03:29, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clean up the page 

message: A request for comments has been started that could affect the inclusion 
or exclusion of episode and character, as well as other fiction articles. Please 
visit the discussion at 
Wikipedia_talk:Notability_(fiction)#Final_adoption_as_a_guideline. Ikip (talk) 10:59, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for comment on articles for individual television episodes and characters 

message: I propose once again to move this article to "Detective Conan". Yes, I get WP:MOS-AM. However, it is important to remember WP:IAR , which is an official Wikipedia policy. WP:IAR allows other policies and guidelines to be contradicted if there is good reason. Case Closed is known as Detective Conan not only in Japan, but around the world, including the US. No, I do not have citations with me, and no, I can not produce them, as they are WP:OR. For more information of WP:IAR, go to WP:WIARM and WP:UIAR. Please bring me your objections here if you have any, and I will try to address them. I will probably have better arguments tomorrow when I'm not so sleepy. Waiwai933 (talk) 06:24, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There's ignoring all rules, and there's basing your arguments on virtually nothing. How do you know that Detective Conan is more commonly used than the current name? --Aeon17x (talk) 22:47, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I understand that. It's all Original Research or Uncited so far, as I pointed out, but it's better than nothing. First, "Detective Conan" generates 2,740,000 results on Google, while "Case Closed" only generates 2,320,000, when searched with apostrophes, which are needed because the words case and closed come up in individual pages more than conan, for example. Secondly, Detective Conan is the English name, and Case Closed is only the US name (maybe Canada as well?), because of copyright issues. English WP serves the entire english speaking community, which is more than the US. My major point is that we can't just say WP:MOS-AM and put all discussion down, as has been done. Waiwai933 (talk) 06:24, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: well FUNimation does call it case closed in america and so does Viz. =^-^= "--I am an oktau and a baka at times but deny proven facts and you got a fight 06:43, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

text: Actually, all English language releases—Viz, Gollancz, and Funimation—have been under the name Case Closed. So that is the official title for the English language market. We don't rename articles based on original research, but on what name reliable sources use. --Farix (Talk) 12:47, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

text: They stopped airing it an English and just continued realeasing it on DVDs. So they probably won't air it again. For the argument's sake I disagree with the move. If VIZ or Funi stops working on the series and abandons it, I think it would be fair to move it back to Detective Conan. DragonZero (talk) 07:24, 20 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think that would be a vaild reason either. Anime naming guidlines call for the name best known to English speaking aduineces. Dectective Conan does not become the best known name simply because Case Closed is no longer aired on TV. Also for the arond the world argument you will need proff that it is best know in the Englih speaking world. Finally, being the original name is irrelvent in upon itself because the vast majority of Anime, games ect use the English name. --76.66.188.148 (talk) 23:58, 21 March 2009 (UTC)

text: From the Day One of this five-year dispute, that redirect has been there.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 12:58, 23 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move to Detective Conan (New Argument) 

message: I've been reading the episodes listing on ~~ Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:37:40 ~~ (to be exact) and save a mht file of it so I can have it on my PC. Someday in April, and until now, the database is changed.
Here's the episodes listing as of Mon, 30 Mar 2009 23:37:40:
JAPANESE episodes
Season 1 (1 - 25)
Season 2 (26 - 51)
Season 3 (52 - 76)
Season 4 (77 - 99)
Season 5 (100 - 123)
Season 6 (124 - 173)
Season 7 (174 – 218 )
Season 8 (219 - 262)
Season 9 (263 – 303)
Season 10 (304 - 344)
Season 11 (345 - 383)
Season 12 (384 - 424)
Season 13 (425 - 459)
Season 14 (460 – 490)
Season 15 (491 – 520)
Season 16 (521 ~ up-to-date)
US episodes (Funimation.. etc..)
1.1 First Season: episodes 1-26 
1.2 Second Season: episodes 27-52 
1.3 Third Season: episodes 53-79 
1.4 Fourth Season: episodes 80-105 
1.5 Fifth Season: episodes 106-130 
1.6 Sixth Season: episodes 131-184 
1.7 Seventh Season: episodes 185–234 
1.8 Eighth Season: episodes 235-281 
1.9 Ninth Season: episodes 282–325 
1.10 Tenth Season: episodes 326-370 
1.11 Eleventh Season: episodes 371-417 
1.12 Twelfth Season: episodes 418-458 
1.13 Thirteenth Season: episodes 459-499 
1.14 Fourteenth Season: episodes 500–537 
1.15 Fifteenth Season: episodes 538-569 
1.16 Sixteenth Season: episodes 570-  
Can someone re-organize the list? Please do correct this. Thank you.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sesiom316 (talk • contribs) 10:58, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Note The episode division as of now is set to match the DVD seasion division of Detective Conan. The old division was wrong. DragonZero (talk) 20:31, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Take note of the season changing of some users 

message: For Movies 3-13, the movie titles are named as Detective Conan: "Movie Title", but the link redirects to a page Case Closed: "Movie Title". Should the movie pages be changed back to Detective Conan: "Movie Title" or change the names on this page to Case Closed: "Movie Title"? Raychut (talk • contribs) 14:44, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no clue on this. If this occurs, that means that the case closed seasons 6-17 will have to be moved to Detective Conan, which isn't that much of a problem since funi stopped dubbing the series. I'm not sure of the status of the manga though DragonZero (talk) 23:02, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Manga continues. Plus, in a development that surprises me, Funi is dubbing Movie 3. That said, I think all movies that has not been dubbed should be under DC naming--despite someone calling me sour grapes over the issue.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 01:50, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is there any news on whether more episodes will be dubbed?DragonZero (talk) 02:54, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Not that I heard of.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 03:40, 4 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As movies 3-6 is official licensed, they should keep Case Closed namings.--Samuel di Curtisi di Salvadori 15:05, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Got it, I'll fix it if it hasn't been fixed yet.DragonZero (talk) 19:32, 21 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Movie Titles 

message: Well first of all... after accessing the page of Detective Conan, I was kinda ticked and confused. It's like who the heck is Jimmy!? And there I read that he's Shinichi... and the other characters as well
"Jimmy Kudo, also known as Shinichi Kudo (工藤 新一, Kudō Shinichi?) in Japan," uhm... for a person like me who love Anime/Manga, it kinda ticked me off reading this... Detective Conan was made in Japan so when I read, "also known ___ in Japan..." it's like it's suppose to be reversed right... it's suppose to be "Kudo Shinichi, also known as Jimmy Kudo in the US"
Dude, it came from Japan, from this statement it felt like the other country are taking credit of it. Same with this... "is the protagonist of the anime and manga Case Closed, known in Japan as Detective Conan (名探偵コナン, Meitantei Conan?)"
So I kinda want to change it and use the Japanese name instead as the main thing. Its sounds weird and silly in English since I had watched Detective Conan in Japanese...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by PurpleHale (talk • contribs) 14:28, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Haha, me too, but the wiki rules state English names first. DragonZero (talk) 20:28, 13 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a Detective Conan wikipedia that dedicates itself to your standards, but since there's no way that wiki can surpass this one, you should help improve the articles here first then you could help with that Detective Conan fansite.DragonZero (talk) 20:30, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

text: At least write something like "The story follows the adventures of Jimmy Kudo (Shinichi Kudo in the original) [...]". The english names confuse. I'm sure there are a lot non-native speaker (am one) using the english wiki cause it's the biggest. Checked dutch, french, german, italian and spanish — it's always Shinichi. -- 85.146.52.115 (talk) 22:51, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Other languages have different standards. If you feel their inferior, you could start working through them. That's what I did to this article. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 23:19, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Just wanted to add something. As I see it, wikipedia should be objective and show the most used term first. This means that since every other translation than the American (it at least seems so) is using their Japanese names, wiki should show this by using their Japanese names throughout the article, and only use the American names in parenthesis in the beginning. Again, this to reflect "the world" and not America. (Yfé (talk) 19:26, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Gotta follow the guidelines. If you to change the guide lines, you need to start a discussion at Wikipedia talk:Manual of Style (anime- and manga-related articles)#Case Closed. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 23:42, 2 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: and again, the whole page of YGO 5D's is totally ruin with 4kids stupid plots(they only purchase license for the animation and not the rest, shouldnt the whole 5D's article title have the 4kids word in it?. i wonder what is the point of having this kind of articles when the best is link to a full fledge anime/manga wiki.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 218.186.9.232 (talk) 11:19, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adapting the Original Names in Japanese 

message: So, the List of Case Closed music tracks article has been replaced with the CDs section of the Case Closed article. This solves the problem of the Movie EDs and Episode OP/EDs, but the CDs section as of now needs some cleanup, to say the least. Kenrick95 attempted to clean it up by organizing it into a list, but DragonZero promptly reversed it back, claiming "this is not to be a list". Therefore, I propose that the CDs section be reorganized into a format similar to that used in the article Music of Mobile Suit Gundam SEED. Cocomonk22 (talk) 05:05, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course its not suppose to be in a list unless its on its own article. Check the Manual of Style. Also for one, unless there's someone willing to make a list exactly like that and sourced and everything, go ahead. But since no one and I mean NO ONE has been working on the soundtracks at all, I decided to work on it and compress it into its tiny section, all summarized. So unless there's someone who's willing to put so much effort into making the list, you will have to live with this. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 05:46, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, I'm using the Naruto and Bleach (manga) as the layout. They do not list theme musics. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 05:51, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have any problems with my edits. Create a discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Anime and manga. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 06:28, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: At first I had a problem with the edit, but simplifying to just CDs in the main article makes the music less ambiguous ("CDs" compared to "music tracks"), so I'm fine with the removal of the List of Case Closed music tracks sub-article. The CDs section for Case Closed is 634 words, compared to 286 for Bleach and 227 for Naruto. If you notice in the Naruto and Bleach (manga) articles, only some of the soundtracks are discussed, so I'll just do a quick cleanup using those articles as reference. This means the 13 movie soundtrack titles and descriptions will be removed and Japanese versions of soundtrack titles (kanji and romaji) will be removed, just as they have been removed in the CDs section of Naruto and Bleach (manga). I think the last sentence (Each of the films from the series have also had their own CDs) should be rewritten as well, but I'll leave that as is for now. Cocomonk22 (talk) 10:36, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  CDs 

message: Though it's going to be killer, someone needs to go through and properly cite references for many of the articles. Fortunately, some people have at least mentioned the chapters certain events occur in the manga/anime so they will be easier to find. Citing references would really help improve the order of the article.
Copse (talk) 05:17, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We know. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 06:03, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Also it seems your not following the manual of style or even reffing the facts correctly. First off, you can not go "In Chapter 703" he does this. That is not sourcing. I'm going to assume your talking about the character list. To simplfy it, please follow the format of the list of Naruto. List of Naruto characters. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 06:38, 19 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citations; -They're Important 

message: There is some kind of Meitantei Konan comic thing going in in Shōgakukan's gakushūzasshi, or at least in Shōgaku yonensei, as can be seen in the table of contents of the latest issue. Is this a different Meitantei Konan comic title? (212.247.11.156 (talk) 19:38, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no clue what that is. I'd assume its some kind of teaching comics Shogakukan created by using the characters it has under licensed. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 21:27, 25 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shōgakukan no gakushūzasshi 

message: In Japanese, Conan is read Konan so why in the heading it says "Case Closed, also known as Meitantei Conan", it supposed to be "Case Closed, also known as Meitantei Konan" (the romanji of コナン is "Konan" not "Conan"), reference : see Google Translate then click "Show romanization", its "Konan" not "Conan"...  Kenrick  Talk 05:49, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: There is no way one way is "read". As long as the pronunciation is there, its fine. Conan is more accepted than Konan for the Nihongo 3 templates since Conan is the official direct English translation of the title evidenced though the series, DVD boxes, and others. Also if its noteworthy, C and K sound exactly the same. Google translate is unreliable for romaji translation anyways. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 06:10, 9 February 2010 (UTC)

text: Ok... Thx for the explaination....  Kenrick  Talk 14:40, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Meitantei Conan ??? 

message: Anyone know how long the story have gone on for? I mean in the story itself, ignoring the time between cases that are unknown(if it tells you it took N days to drive to some place etc, that outa be counted)  For some reason I feel like it have been over 4 years... and that's kinda wrong.
216.165.63.229 (talk) 10:38, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is not a forum. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 21:32, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Time elapsed(in story) 

message: There doesn't appear to be a development section as suggested in WP:MOS-AM.  I guess that information is kind of included in the media section, but it might be good to see if you can make that section.  It's not enough to hold back a B-Class rating though, everything here looks good.  I don't think I was the last to review this article, but the referencing is much better than the last time I looked at it.  Only one other thing to mention is when the article starting listing movies, it kind of becomes robotic and feels more like a list than prose.  I would look for a way to make that flow a little better, and perhaps adding another relevant image there.  --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 10:00, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the review, I'll get to that this weekend. DragonZero (talk · contribs) 18:53, 30 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Review notes 

message: *CBB: vol. 36 vol. 38
*Sequential Tart: vol. 36 vol. 37
--KrebMarkt (talk) 20:18, 5 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Review(s) 

message: I think this article has a good shot for a GA. But there are several related things that I'd like to see addressed. First, there should be a discussion on naming - why was the English (Jimmy) version adopted over the original (Shinichi). It may belong in List of Case Closed characters, not here, but the article should explain why one variant was chosen over another; and a note in the main article (here) wouldn't go amiss, I should note that "Case Closed"+anime on Google yields under 500k hits, "Detective Conan"+anime - 1,850k hits. A reason for titling this article under a less popular name should be made clear. Second, the anime section goes in detail about licensing in the North America. Good, but NA is not the world, and other than a sentence on Philippines, the article doesn't cover anywhere else. What about UK? Australia? Various European countries? Finally, this article fails to mention fansubs, a glaring ommission, considering that they are the only way most fans outside Japan can access the newer epidoses. Sure, fansubs are in the gray zone of legality - but that doesn't matter for us; we should present a neutral, encyclopedic overview of how the anime is distributed and available. On a parting note, the article doesn't make it very clear to me how many anime seasons were made (should be stated in lead), that the series is still ongoing (both in manga and anime formats), and that a new movie is planned. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  03:37, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: There were multiple discussions in the past about why the English licensed name were chosen over the more notable original ones. IIRC, the reasons stated were there were a lack of sourcing stating that the series is known more as Detective Conan in America than Case Closed. The idea that supports Case Closed over Detective Conan was that this was an English wikipedia. I could start another discussion if policies have changed since the previous consensus though. As for the anime section, I tried to search for reliable sources about its licensing in other languages but was unable to find reliable sources for them. Fansubs, I had not seen other GA anime articles including them but if any reliable coverage exists, I will include it if I find it. Thanks for the suggestions to the lead, I realized it must be the weakest part in the article. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 05:03, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

text: I think the person above me is correct, what it's known as in America is nowhere near as common as the various countries that call it Detective Conan; if a larger number of licensed English-language versions are available as 'Detective Conan' than the American 'Case Closed' then isn't its English name 'Detective Conan' according to the guidelines? I know I'm probably just restating the person above, but I really think this should be changed. See the 'See Also' section on this link for more details on what other countries call it: http://www.detectiveconanworld.com/wiki/Detective_Conan  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.22.244.123 (talk) 12:36, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Comments on naming, with a nod towards the future GA review 

message: In Japan, commercial photographs of statues installed in public places are forbidden, but architecture visible from public locations is allowed.  As such, a photograph of Gosho Aoyama Manga Factory (with copyrighted elements in de minimis proportions) would be allowed.  I found 3 photographs of the museum on the web that could be used (the others would be derivative copyright violations if Aoyama's permission is not secured) if their authors consent to release them into the public domain or under an appropriate Creative Commons license.
* http://everydayglimpse.blogspot.com/2011/01/studio-museum-of-anime-in-japan-at-home.html (http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_l60lmydaJWo/TSYLQGE1XKI/AAAAAAAAJew/t9R3uJn6KFs/s1600/20.jpg)
* http://www.panoramio.com/photo/18777029
* http://aastrofromparis.blogspot.com/2010/10/gosho-aoyama-manga-factory.html (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_SHQY4OblU-g/TLTSu_7hQ4I/AAAAAAAAAQA/k4xpoV3zid0/s400/Gosho_Aoyama_Manga_Factory.jpg)
One of these (if the author's permission is obtained and forwarded to OTRS) or a similar photograph by a Wikimedia contributor could be used for the Reception section since it now mentions the museum. Jappalang (talk) 01:01, 25 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose I'll to get permission from one of the authors. Thanks DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 02:08, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  A relevant photograph? (Effort required) 

message: This article should mention the immense work done by the DCTP. The semi-legality of fansubs should not preclude the neutral encyclopedia from discussing this phenomenon. --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| talk  22:16, 26 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I know but they haven't received notable coverage. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 00:30, 27 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  DCTP 

message: does anyone know when the tv serie is broadcasted on hd from? Because i do not find that info.
--Maestrotaku (talk) 00:36, 11 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  HD 

message: can't we please stop with the changing of the article's name it's been going back and forth for too long... Pyromania153 (talk) 22:37, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It is what vandalism is. DragonZero (Talk · Contribs) 00:15, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  can't we please stop 

message: This guy posted an interview he had with Aoyama via email.  I figured it would be helpful to add a Production section to this article. The guy seems reliable once you read his page describing himself and all the other interviews he has done. Xfansd (talk) 02:03, 31 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Helpful source