Talk:Mobile web

message: Mobile Internet shouldn't be redirected here. Mobile internet is a service to connect to the Internet thru mobile network. Mobile networks can be used by mobile devices like cellphones, notebooks, PDAs, but also by desktop computers. Because mobile internet redirects here, the reader will have the assumption that "Access does not require a desktop computer." though it is a completely different matter.
Kidnotkidding 10:31, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was full of speculation, and forward looking possiblities, great for a blog entry, bad for an encylopedia article.  Mathiastck 00:21, 6 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Is there are reason the first letter of "web" is capitalised in the title? It seems like it should be in lower case. Jecowa (talk) 14:39, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capitalisation 

message: The last paragraph of the Limitations section doesn't sound very encyclopedic.  I'm not sure if it's just the exclamation points or the non-standard citations, but it could use some polishing.  I don't know how to do proper citations on wikipedia, so if someone could show me how, I'll fix it, otherwise if you could fix it that'd be cool too.
PabloSus86 (talk) 03:11, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Limitations original research? 

message: I think the first section is mostly debatable, or wrong. There is a confusion in what is written between Internet (capital I) and Web (capital W). fwiw I don't consider WAP/WML to be part of the Web. It's not accessible using a standards compliant Web browser, which to my mind is the test of whether something is part of the Web or not. Specifically, I think that the Mobile Web is a sub-set of the regular Web in which content has been designed to be sensitive to the user's mobile intentions (which are typically different to those of a desktop user) and designed to take advantage of specific mobile features - such as location awareness, or ability to originate telephone calls or SMS messages directly. Additionally content is typically designed to be easily navigable and readable with small screens, limited input mechanisms (typically no mouse) and limitations as to the size of the pages that can be accommodated by devices, and transferred to the device in a reasonable time at a reasonable cost.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.142.46.123 (talk) 11:38, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Various 

message: I find the article's phraseology to be confusing and comprehensibility to be lacking.
Give it to me straight: If a cellphone gets the "Mobile Web," is it able to receive regular web pages [albeit at slow speeds and with all the other page-navigation difficulties]?  In that case, isn't such a device essentially regular-web-able, and the label "Mobile Web" simply a marketer's method of warning potential customers that webpages are going to render really slowly and otherwise be challenging to navigate around?
Previous definitions of the Mobile Internet that I’ve considered include that it is:
* A segment of the internet
* A parallel but completely separate internet-type system, populated with limited webpage-type content which is provided by the cellphone-signal provider -- separate from the internet, and without actual access to the rest of the internet.
I’m realizing these definitions are all wrong.
I'm starting to recognize that the term "Mobile Web" is not a definition of any available content.  Instead, it is a description of mobile devices with their limited connection-speeds and limited webpage navigation capabilities.  I.e., “Mobile Web” only describes hardware (such as web-capable cellphones).
I would recommend frequently adding the phrase "Mobile Web devices" into the article.  That is proper use of the term.  That it refers to hardware, not web content, would be a good, initial point to begin the description.
The next point might be that there are specially-designed webpages intended to benefit Mobile Web devices because of these characteristics:
* They are small webpages that are able to load without too much delay -- even with the slow connection-speeds of a cellphone-provided internet connection, and
* They are designed to be navigable with only a wheel, since Mobile Web devices don't have mice.
Again, I would emphasize that there is no internet-type system whose name is “The Mobile Web.”
And a final dis-ambiguity: Webpages written especially for Mobile Web devices can be received on standard PCs (and Macs, if you must), since they are simply small webpages available on the same, usual web that we’re used to inhabiting.  Conversely, webpages written for standard PCs can be received on Mobile Web devices, although complex, graphic-intensive, large-file-size, java and web-gizmo-intensive webpages will suffer from agonizingly slow download speeds before the full webpage is completely received, and there will probably be problems with display, navigation within such complex webpages, and advanced functions (such as, possibly, Java) contained therein.
I dropped in to this Wikipedia webpage by following a Google link for "Mobile Web 2."  I must say the sub-section titled “Mobile Web 2.0” is the height of incomprehensiblity.  For instance, it seems to start with "an example" without ever providing the actual definition, and which I was never able to infer.  Please someone, provide a definition, even if it’s more marketing hype than technologically significant.
The patching that has been performed so far on this article has been obviously insufficient, and I believe the conclusion is that it can't be saved.  Therefore, I hope that someone who is knowledgeable about this subject will do a complete rewrite of this article.  Nei1 (talk) 04:26, 18 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to agree with you.  This article appears very out-of-date and lacking coherence.  If nobody knowledgeable steps forward, I will edit this article down to remove anything that appears out-of-date, wrong, or incoherent.  Any better offers? 
I just removed a link  - it pointed to the Sy Bandergee's (author's) home page http://som.umflint.edu/sy/ rather than to his article about mobile advertising.
--HighKing (talk) 18:40, 6 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Content is borderline incoherent; Mobile Web 2 section is completely [incoherent]. 

message: Mobile Internet is much more than Mobile Web. This can include access to the Internet using cell phones and USB modem and tariff models (plain tariff). This is fundamental for the web. Why do you want mobile web if you cannot acces to the Mobile Internet because of hight costs ?. --Nopetro (talk) 06:44, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mobile Internet 

message: "On mobile web, only one page can be displayed at a time, and pages can only be viewed in the sequence they were originally accessed."
This is nonsense, my relatively simple Sony Ericsson K610i utilises a windowing GUI and tasks can be switched very easily - it even has a dedicated button for that purpose.
Opera Mini opens tabs (if requested) and you can switch between web pages too.
I suggest this be re-written in a past-tense or "historically..." term.
KenSharp (talk) 03:22, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Limitations 

message: The two points referencing "Banerjee & Dholakia, 2008" seem totally out of place here. How a user feels about adverts is not a limitation of mobile internet.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.206.196.109 (talk) 07:18, 15 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Limits 

message: :Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *Support or *Oppose, then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's policy on article titles.
* Oppose; "Web" is short here for "World Wide Web", which is a proper noun and thus properly capitalized.  "mobile Web" would be correct usage in prose, but the initial capital is requisite for technological reasons.  Powers T 19:33, 18 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: As you may know, mobile Internet is more than just mobile web. Several mobile apps use internet. --167.58.191.206 (talk) 19:37, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Mobile Web]] vs [[Mobile Internet]] 

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