Talk:Dutch Americans

message: The sheer number of sources is (beyond) impressive but the article could be better, I'll try to improve it a bit. Rex 16:24, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.Rex 19:49, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article | rewrite

message: See . Badagnani (talk) 03:50, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The more you play games, the more I revert. Find sources that call these men "Dutch Americans." It's unlikely you'll find them, as they're not considered that, but you might (albeit they have to be reliable). Until then, dicussion is over. Bulldog123 (talk) 08:37, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Three quite prominent Dutch Americans blanked from article

message: Why was Rik Smits removed in this edit, when his own article states that he is a "Dutch American"? It may be possible for some Dutch individuals who have lived for many years in the U.S. to have acquired dual citizenship, or to be considered "permanent residents" of the U.S. Such long-time residents are often considered as "X Americans," despite their lack of U.S. citizenship, because they have adopted the U.S. as their new home. Please use "Discussion" to propose such removals in the future. Badagnani (talk) 18:40, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of [[Rik Smits]]

message: As all European American have, I also created Pictures in the infobox that represent a examples of Dutch or partial Dutch ancestry as the first edited article describe it
So stop vandalising this article for nothing that have only diminuing it and removing essensial things.
Any rejection will be Posted here
thanks 41.249.102.123 (talk) 00:14, 9 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would argue almost all of the additions are dubious at best. De Niro is an American with mostly Italian ancestry, Bush's lineage comes from England. They may have some Dutch ancestry but this does not make them Dutch-Americans, and they're not suitable as representatives for this article. You will have to provide sources for your edit or I will have to remove the images again per the guidelines Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons, Wikipedia:No original research, and Wikipedia:Verifiability.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by LuciferJ (talk • contribs) 08:28, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia itself can't be used as a source for its articles. I think most of your additions don't identify themselves as Dutch-Americans and should not be listed in this article. Also, your vandalizing edits here and here don't exactly speak to your credibility. LuciferJ (talk) 07:50, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Well what you gotta do if all Dutch americans are sharing different identities, and the most well known in fact. just sayed if you remove those pictures, you can't find a real Dutch American to represent the colonizing power, Im speaking naturally about Nederland;  41.251.27.66 (talk) 22:27, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Stop Removing and Changing Dutch American

message: I've removed the flagcruft in this article.  Flags do not represent ethnic groups.  They represent countries. DHN (talk) 18:23, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't support this removal, which was unnecessary. Badagnani (talk) 19:31, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Using flags to represent ethnic groups is problematic, and the problem is further confounded when the people do not live in their so-called "homeland".  For example, for Chinese American, which flag should be used, the PRC or the ROC?  Should the flag of Israel be used to represent Jews?  Should a national flag that is strenuously opposed by the very group that it's supposed to represent be used to represent them? (see Vietnamese American#Political activism and Flag of the Republic of Vietnam)  The flag of the Netherlands was adopted in 1937, and I think it's safe to say that most Dutch Americans have ancestors who arrived in the US long before this flag was used.  What's the meaning of this flag?  Do Dutch Americans pledge alliegiance to this flag? DHN (talk) 21:27, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

text: When there's a problem (as with the RVN/DRV flags), the flags can be left out. When there's not, the flags can be left in. Badagnani (talk) 21:30, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Agree with Badagnani, stop removing flags, to the cause that all european that colonize America have one, so no Barbary here in wikipedia. 41.251.27.66 (talk) 21:49, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: How does having the Dutch flag in this article enhance it?  Your reasoning that "all european that colonize America have one, so no Barbary here in wikipedia" makes no sense to me.  Are Dutch Americans subjects to the Dutch crown?  Are they represented by the Dutch embassy in the United States? I intend to remove flags representing countries from articles about ethnic groups whenver I see them. DHN (talk) 22:00, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

text: If you do so, you gotta remove all other flags that represent the non indigenous people of North America, like if you still do not understand, France or Portugal, so let flags to each country her own; meantime, you are the only user that intend to remove a unecessary thing in wikipedia, so Im replacing it now, and if it is removed, it will be replaced by another user.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.251.27.66 (talk) 22:10, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Your argument boils down to "if the other articles have it, this one should to".  So if the other articles are removed as well, you have no objection to the flag being removed here? DHN (talk) 22:19, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

text: Yep, in fact they have been all removed, it has been a mistake, personally I prefere those articles with flags. ...Well its almost midnight here, I gotta sleep.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 41.251.27.66 (talk) 22:29, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Flagcruft

message: You are invited to join the discussion at Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Ethnic_groups#Infobox_Images_for_Ethnic_Groups. Bulldog123 09:35, 1 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposal to ban user-created montages from Infoboxes

message: Can someone fix the table at Dutch_Americans#Dutch_language_and_Dutch_names_in_North_America. It is not showing any relevant data at the moment. 77.251.191.149 (talk) 09:49, 10 December 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems to be working now. Altamel (talk) 05:01, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request to edit table 

message: The book of Saint Nicholas, Paulding, James Kirke, 1778-1860, Pub. 1836  Paptilian (talk) 23:34, 7 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Item of Interest