Template talk:Professional Baseball

message: There are several other notable summer leagues around the world. Should these be added to the template, and if so, how?
*Honkbal Hoofdklasse (Netherlands)
*Korean Baseball Organization (South Korea)
*Serie A1 (Italy)
*Chinese Baseball League (China)
*Chinese Professional Baseball League (Chinese Taipei/Taiwan)
Rolando 23:31, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Added now. FJM 13:56, 31 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Let's not forget Cuban National Series.  Probably more important than the other 5.--DaveOinSF 14:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Added to Winter Leagues section (though it's "amateur", strictly speaking). Rolando (talk) 19:23, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

text: The league is amateur.. it therefore should not be listed under "professional baseball"Spanneraol (talk) 19:34, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Other notable leagues

message: I recently added all defunct major leagues to this list  --  National Associat.on (1871-75), Union Association (1884), and Players League (1890) -- to the two that were already on the list (American Association and Federal League).  Since then, two defunct minor leagues have been added to the list.
The question I have is this:  are the two defunct minor leagues (the Eastern Carolina League and the Virginia League) considered "Notable" for the purposes of this template, or should we expand the categories?
There could be "Defunct Major Leagues", "Defunct Minor Leagues", "Defunct leagues -- Other", or some other scheme.
The Negro Leagues are in reality several (at least six) distinct leagues, all of them (obviously) defunct, and might belong in their own category with each individual league listed; foreign (non-American) baseball leagues could have their own category, minor leagues another, etc.
Should this template be expanded?  Should we restrict what goes into "Notable defunct leagues"?  Should we leave well enough alone?
--- Couillaud 18:26, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are dozens of defunct minor leagues.  If all were added to the template, it would become unmanageably large.  My opinion is that defunct minor leagues should not be regarded as sufficiently "notable" to be included on the template, and that the link to Negro Leagues should remain as a single link. BRMo 03:02, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed Arnabdas (talk) 19:18, 6 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: What constitutes a "notable" defunct league?

message: Any chance this should be cut down? --Howard the Duck 12:03, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This is bigger than Wrigley Field 

message: Please direct discussion here.--Borgardetalk 10:40, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding size 

message: Where does the Claxton Shield fit into this template? It's obviously not a major league but I can't decide whether to put it in the 'minor leagues' or with 'other leagues'. Any thoughts? Bongomanrae 13:56, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Claxton Shield

message: Currently the template shows the Venezuelan Professional Baseball League as affiliated, but the Dominican Winter Baseball League and the Liga Mexicana del Pacífico are shown as independent.  My understanding had been that all three leagues were affiliated with Major League Baseball.  Although I haven't found a source that clearly says they're affiliated, strong circumstantial evidence is the fact that all three leagues (along with the Arizona Fall League and Hawaii Winter Baseball) are featured on the MLB Website  and that MLB and affiliated minor league players play in all three leagues. Is there any contrary evidence suggesting that they are actually independent? BRMo (talk) 00:02, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Winter leagues - affiliated or independent? 

message: What exactly defines an international league as major?  Why is Taiwan considered Major, but not China?  Is there some relationship between MLB and these international leagues?  -- χγʒ͡ʒγʋᾳ (talk) 19:36, 15 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Major" 

message: I added it, but someone deleted it.  It is real, you can find it on the Spanish Wikipedia and on the baseballhistory.wikia.com wiki.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.224.117.20 (talk) 04:27, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: (Neither if which are really reliable sources.) If you can whip up a stubby article on it for the English Wikipedia, with a reliable source, it'll be all good. I know nothing about the league to write it myself. oknazevad (talk) 04:49, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Veracruz Winter League

message: The minor mexican leagues which have just been added to the template should either be removed or placed in a different category. They are not MLB affiliated leagues and their status is unclear by the sourcing provided on their pages.Spanneraol (talk) 13:56, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor Mexican Leagues 

message: I have done some research and:
Amateur:
Division Elite: http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Championnat_de_France_de_baseball_%C3%89lite (see infobox)
Irish baseball league: http://irishbaseballseason.blogspot.com/2007/05/baseball-in-ireland-really-low-down-on.html
British National League
Questionable:
Bundesliga
Division de Honor de Beisbol
Elitserien
Professional:
Italian Baseball League
Honkbal Hoofdklasse
I don't want to remove the amateur ones without discussion first.  And anyone know about the questionable ones? Jntg4Games (talk) 21:53, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  European Leagues 

message: Should the Arizona Winter League be listed as independent?  it is affiliated with the Golden baseball League, so its affiliated with an independent, but is not independent itself.  The GBL also has another league like the Winter League in the Summer, called the Arizona Summer League.  But that isn't even listed here. Jntg4Games (talk) 22:03, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  GBL Affiliates 

message: This guy is trying to get basically every independent baseball league deleted, even the Pecos League, which we all know if notable. Jntg4Games (talk) 00:16, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This issue is being discussed over at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Baseball#Independent Baseball: HELP. Top Jim (talk) 01:47, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Stop Top Jim 

message: I'm removing it.  It is clearly amateur and has no claim of professional status.  It is even incorporated into the "Philippine Amateur Baseball Association". Jntg4Games (talk) 14:23, 10 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baseball Philippines 

message: Not sure if this warrants inclusion somehow given the inclusion of the Dutch leagues. 161.185.151.51 (talk) 21:43, 30 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bundesliga (baseball) 

message: The Southwest League of Professional Baseball will start play in 2019 and they have 3 teams while they want to have six for their first season. The teams are Joplin Miners, Royse City Griffins and Waco BlueCats. There are 3 teams not in the league I guess can join: Oklahoma 89ers based in Woodward, Oklahoma, Salina Stockade (former American Association and Pecos League, but plans to be a travel team in the Can-Am League) and Sugar Land Skeeters (Atlantic League). 67.49.89.214 (talk) 02:44, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Wait. There's been no indication of any team currently in other leagues jumping over. And there's also an important aspect of all leagues: they need to actually play. See WP:CRUSTALBALL, please. oknazevad (talk) 01:18, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Future Independent Leagues 

message: please add the Mexican Pacific League to the list of independent off season leagues.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mexican_Pacific_League 104.219.136.34 (talk) 03:40, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: It's an affiliated league and is already listed as such. Spanneraol (talk) 12:22, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 10 September 2018 

message: I'll keep this brief
- Is the Chinese League (PR China) not defunct?
- Shouldn't the Curacaoan and Argentinian winter leagues be added as the Latin American Series counts them as professional winter leagues?
- Shouldn't the Asia Winter Baseball League be added as it is recognised as a professional winter league?
RallyXEditor (talk) 17:07, 18 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, can we update the template? JRA (talk) 05:19, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the China League as defunct, and added the Asia Winter League. I haven't added the Curaçao or Argentina leagues because they don't actually have articles. oknazevad (talk) 10:49, 21 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  China, plus winter leagues 

message: Hi there,
As normal, I'll keep things brief:
- The Argentinian league now has a page so could that be added to the template (it is classified as professional by ALBP)? I will ask the same for Curacao once I have enough citation to have the page published.
- Veracruz Winter League is linked to Veracruz State League, not to Liga Invernal Veracruzana, which is the current professional league for Veracruz. The Veracruz State League is a youth league that was used as the interim pro league while LIV was on hold. Could we change this?
RallyXEditor (talk) 17:03, 3 February 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Argentinian and Veracruz Leagues 

message: Euro League Baseball appears defunct.  The Italian Baseball League should be added. 162.208.168.92 (talk) 00:54, 30 November 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update request