Talk:Donald Ewen Cameron

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Including Nazi-level experiments using hypnosis, electric shocks, LSD, etc on 4-year-old children, amongst other things.   50.132.8.98 (talk) 17:41, 1 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Testimony 

message: This has been split off from material referring to another doctor, who could not have been the same person referred to here. This article is remarkably light on facts: are there any cites to back this up? -- The Anome 07:42, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Facts?

message: I have moved the page to the corrected name of the subject, and removed the (MKULTRA) from the title as well. The other subject that The Anome is referring to is Ewan Cameron, who has different birth/death dates and a markedly different profession. Please note that there may be something of a mess here due to the large number of dab pages and redirects. The subject of this article is tangentially related to the kidnapping death of William Francis Buckley. I'm not making a stand on any of the content, just moving per request of the above anon user and the article content itself. ... aa:talk 22:12, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move 7/2006 

message: (source) http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/newspapers/sunday_times/scotland/article495413.ece
From The Sunday TimesOctober 17, 2004
Brainwash victims win cash claims
Karin Goodwin 
HUNDREDS of mentally ill patients who were subjected to barbaric CIA-funded brainwashing experiments by a Scottish doctor could be entitled to compensation following a landmark court ruling. 
Doctor Ewan Cameron, who became one of the world’s leading psychiatrists, developed techniques used by Nazi scientists to wipe out the existing personalities of people in his care. 
Cameron, who graduated from Glasgow University, was recruited by the CIA during the cold war while working at McGill University in Montreal, Canada. 
He carried out mind-control experiments using drugs such as LSD on hundreds of patients, but only 77 of them were awarded compensation. 
Now a landmark ruling by a Federal Court judge in Montreal will allow more than 250 former patients, whose claims were rejected, to seek compensation. 
Gail Kastner, who underwent electroshock treatment at a Montreal psychiatric institute in 1953, and whose claim was rejected 10 years ago, successfully appealed the judgment. 
Last week, Alan Stein, of Montreal law firm Stein and Stein, which represented Kastner, confirmed he was in the process of contacting former clients who could now renew their appeal. 
“There are about 200 people still due compensation,” he said. “This judgment should send out strong signals to the Canadian government. Those who have previously missed out should have a strong case for appealing.” 
Using techniques similar to those portrayed in the celebrated novel the Manchurian Candidate, it was believed that people could be brainwashed and reprogrammed to carry out specific acts. 
Cameron developed a range of depatterning “treatments” while director of the Allan Memorial Institute at McGill University. 
Patients were woken from drug-induced stupors two or three times a day for multiple electric shocks. In a specially designed “sleep room” made famous by Anne Collins’s book of the same name, Cameron placed a speaker under the patient’s pillow and relayed negative messages for 16 hours a day. 
Kastner was a 19-year-old honours student suffering from mild depression when she first underwent “treatment” in 1953. On returning home she sucked her thumb, demanded to be fed from a bottle, talked in a baby voice and urinated on the floor. 
She was ostracised by her affluent family, who were unable to cope with her changed state, and her marriage in 1955 quickly broke down due to her difficulties. 
Cameron, who was born in Bridge of Allan in 1901, rose to become the first president of the World Psychiatric Association. 
It took two decades and the persistence of Joseph Rauh, the distinguished American civil liberties lawyer, to uncover what happened and secure compensation for some of Cameron’s victims.
Bill (Feb 10, 2007) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.98.128.230 (talk) 20:42, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Interesting Article worth preserving 

message: What is the name of the "Canadian psychiatric association" that Cameron was supposed to have been president of?  There isn't a Canadian Psychiatric Association, only a Canadian Psychological Association.  Maikel 13:07, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Canadian psychiatric association?

message: I removed the following line:
"Cameron is claimed to have been a freemason although this has not been proven."
Is claimed to have been a freemason???!!! What's that? Stick to facts instead of conspiracy theories.
Joe_hill 2007-10-11  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Joe hill (talk • contribs) 05:11, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Freemason - so what? 

message: Place of birth is listed as "Bridge of Allan", which was in Stirlingshire at his birth, now in Stirling district, however the article says Perthshire. This appears to have been lifted from his obituary. I would normally just edit this inaccuracy, however I think there may some confusion as there is a "Bridge of Earn" in Perthshire, so he may have been born there rather than Bridge of Allan? Other references on the Web seem say Bridge of Allan. Anyone know of a more reliable source? Benson85 (talk) 15:59, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm the one who copied in "Bridge of Allan, Perthshire" from the obituary in the BMJ.  I know nothing about that region of the UK so feel free to change it. --❨Ṩtruthious ℬandersnatch❩ 21:22, 25 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bridge of Allan 

message: Yeah, I've reverted.  Introducing a massive wall of text without any references isn't a good way to write an article.  It looked like it might have been a copy-paste job to, making it a potentially copyright violation.  WLU (t) (c) Wikipedia's rules:simple/complex 01:25, 3 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That was WAY more than a revert -- suspicion that it "looks like" a "copy-paste job" isn't a valid reason to erase over half of an article...simple ≠ vacant. 72.86.124.192 (talk) 18:13, 21 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with the IP address there... you should go to alot more effort to verify that it's copy-pasted before destroying such an enormous amount of material.  If the contributor really did write all of that you have ruined a huge amount of someone else's work. --❨Ṩtruthious ℬandersnatch❩ 19:13, 21 December 2010 (UTC)

text: I agree with WLU on this one. It's an obvious cut-and-paste job: it includes numerical references numbered over 100, but this article has only about 10 references! On top of that, it's really bad text that seems to ramble on about things at best tangentially related to the subject of the article. IMHO, the article should be reverted. -- tooki (talk) 15:04, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text:  This edit was reinserted then by an user bloked due evident vandalism. The version was deleted due possible plagiarism concerns. The edit is full of unverified "facts" as it is tagged, and it seems to be an apologetic cleanwhashing of the subject. The subject is well known and has ecnyclopedic relevance due its infamous participation on MK-ULTRA, experiemnts against patients, etc. Note there is an undue weight given to its alleged work on nazism and its personal career. I had to revert it, since it was reinserted by the user even passing over these concerns on the talk page. -- ClaudioSantos¿? 18:36, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert 

message: Dr. Bill Deagle, well-known lecturer and talk show host, states in a 2006 lecture to the Granada Forum that he went to medical school between 1973 and 1977, and in 1975 his psychiatry professor decided to have a special guest show up and that this was Ewen Cameron. (Source: Dr. Deagle PT 1 of 4 time 01:34:50). __meco (talk) 11:06, 28 September 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It is listed that Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron died at an “Lack PlACID” (eye slit eye u not). 2A00:23C7:2B13:9001:B9C5:EBE3:D19F:32C2 (talk) 20:29, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Faked death? 

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message: Link: http://all.net/journal/deception/MKULTRA/www.profreedom.free4all.co.uk/skeletons_1.html
Are you sure this is a reliable source? It seems to be grabbed from a random magazine. Also, if you scroll down to the bottom, there seems to be a sensationalized paragraph regarding a protest in Australia. I'm not sure about this. Firestar464 (talk) 06:38, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reference 39 

message: There is an heading hight “Cameron and the Germans” and even another block of headed pish making out that Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron[etymology hooked nose] was some kind of racist pro German. The psychopath even worked as an interrogator at the Nuremberg show trial whereat the British judges dare not SHOW their WIGS. Dr. Donald Ewen Cameron was a Francophone Scottish crypto Jew psychopath. The British isles is crammed with them throughout history. Anyway the etymology of the NWO worthy’s lastname “ Highland clan name, from Gaelic camshron "wry or hooked nose" 2A00:23C7:2B13:9001:B9C5:EBE3:D19F:32C2 (talk) 20:19, 8 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  The etymology of the “Cameron” lastname is ‘hooked nose”!