Talk:List of countries by number of total troops

message: Most of this article has been made by The Honorable Kermanshahi
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Seeing as China is referred to as the People's Republic of China and Taiwan as the Republic of China, I've changed North / South Korea to their official names, too.
this page shows that Iran has 900,000 total troops, but the page ranking by number of active men says that Iran has a total of 11,000,000 men. how come it's not #1 here?
:I guess we had no reference. Now we have. CP/M comm |Wikipedia Neutrality Project| 11:56, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh, no, not exactly. It was an IP who removed Iran, someone put it back a bit wrong. Restoring. CP/M comm |Wikipedia Neutrality Project| 12:00, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

message: Much of this data here is totally out of date. Almost entire data needs to be redone. Europe especially, I was tempted to do it, but I just realized it is way to much for me to get in to this mess. 
I could do Europe, but I'll need help with the rest, only if few more of you join and help out will I attempt to do anything about current state of the affairs. Anyone who is interested plz leave a note on my page and here, so we can coordinate things. Thanx, Mic of orion (talk) 18:05, 15 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Data out of Date 

message: Somebody has grossly exaggerated the numbers for the United Kingdom.  Who did it? Operaman215 Operaman215 (talk) 03:53, 15 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  United Kingdom 

message: I changed Myanmars numbers as I already sayd on the list of countries by number of active troops, on CSIS page 35 there says that Myanmar has 428,250 troops not 375,250 so I have changed it, also you say on the Military of Myanmar page that the Myanmar police force (72,000) is classified as their Paramilitary so I have also added that wich makes a total of 500,250 troops wich ranks Myanmar 26 insead of 35, It also says that the Myanmar police force includes a fighting force of 45,000 so maybe we should only count that? if anyone has anyone has objecions than say it to let me know.Kermanshahi 14:46, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Changed Myanmars Numbers!!! 

message: The Basji is a civilian defence force. If the Basji's number is counted, then similar numbers must be counted for all the nation's civil defence forces.
Chanakyathegreat 13:51, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Basji 

message: These two articles cover exactly the same information: the list of active troops also has total troops and it has a lot more countries.  We should just have this article redirect to the active troop article. Makgraf 19:30, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge 

message: Surely the Terriritorial Army that is employed by Britain should festure under the Paramilitary section —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Thelostlibertine (talk • contribs) 19:09, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The TA!? 

message: I have added up to 80 now by adding: Canada, Netherlands, Democratic Republic of Kongo, Guatlemala, Lebanon and The Former Yugoslavian Republic of Macedonia very soon I will be adding unp yo 99 that are all the army's larger than 50,000 soldiers. 
 Kermanshahi 14:47, 4 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Added even more

message: and update source to more reliable source http://www.rferl.org/featuresarticle/2005/09/f93d378c-9321-4d56-a459-64cc54743f7f.html Macutty 03:02, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Changed Iran's numbers

message: Hey guys I have just added a Map for the list of countries by number of total troops. I made it myself and it is like the map of the list of countries by number of active troops only then with the numbers of total troops but it has the same colours and thing. Even more is coming soon and I hope you enjoy my article.  The Honorable Kermanshahi 13:03, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Contribution by Kermanshahi

message: I suggest that editing on this page be suspended due to vandalism on the link to the Iranian military page. See my edit note.
Helsinki Jambox 00:43, 30 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  vandalism 

message: Very impressive (and useful) list. And as difficult factoring in all the information may be, the article without constant updates is useless. Once again very nice, Bogdan 02:16, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updates 

message: Good news, the artickle is nearly finished. This weekend I'll be adding the final countries and the artickle will be finished. The Honorable Kermanshahi 21:08, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nearly finished

message: Heey guys, I finally finished it! The Honorable Kermanshahi 11:46, 17 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Finished!!!

message: A lot of work is needed on this page. I don't know if it's due to vandalism or what, but the troop totals among the top entries seem wildly off (especially if their rankings are considered accurate). --Managerpants (talk) 21:14, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Update: I started checking the sources, and in many cases, the numbers just don't match. I'm going to start changing them, unless somebody tells me where the current numbers are coming from. Thanks!  --Managerpants (talk) 11:44, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: A lot of work needed

message: This is copied-and-pasted from above: "Seeing as China is referred to as the People's Republic of China and Taiwan as the Republic of China, I've changed North / South Korea to their official names, too."  I'm not sure who wrote that, but I have changed the Koreas back (twice). For consistency's sake, we should keep the countries' names the same as on their main WP articles. Either that, or change all of them to their "official" names (e.g. United States -> United States of America; United Kingdom -> United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland; etc.). Seeing how unwieldy that would look, I think just the standard names will be fine. Regards, Managerpants (talk) 12:21, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That may be, but it's all unrelated to my point. My whole issue is just with consistency, not with politics.  :-)  --Managerpants (talk) 19:13, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: China, the Koreas, et al

message: In case no one noticed, the citation 13 for the United States is not working. Could you help fix it, please? Kushal 11:03, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  citation for Unites States is a 404 

message: Over the years a lot of vandalism has been done to this article, one of these days I'm going to go threw all the sources and make the article back to how it's supposed to be. The Honorable Kermanshahi (talk) 18:54, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Vandalism

message: First off, Nagorno-Karabakh is unregonized in the world, its a seperatist country, its the only seperatist country in the list and thus its misleading and POV, if we are going to include unregonized states to the list we should admit them all or remove this Nagorno-Karabakh, it simply does not belong here, so I removed this to avoid problems and POV.
Second, Azerbaijan has 126.400 military personnel of whom 95,000 are in the army. I also corrected this number in the list
Baku87 (talk) 11:32, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I was unable to correct these changes, can somebody please ensure these are corrected in the articleBaku87 (talk) 11:39, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Urgent Changes!

message: Is anyone willing to slog through a LOT of history and make a list regarding the largest armies a country has ever fielded? For example, most of the nations on this list have shrunk thier militaries in the past decade or so, and most of them had much larger militaries during various wars (WWII comes to mind). Also, some countried have changed/disappeared (Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union, etc.). While it would be a large undertaking, I think it would be interesting to compare, say, the US at its height against the USSR at its height, since the current list contains only current numbers. bahamut0013♠♣ 15:41, 28 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical list 

message: ...is missing. 89.100.20.244 (talk) 13:57, 29 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: fixed. Nohomers48 (talk) 20:49, 6 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ireland 

message: I've updated the number of German troops. The paramilitary forces of Germany have been set to 0 by me. The former number referred to the Bundesgrenzschutz (Federal Border Guard), which is nowadays called Bundespolizei (Federal Police). They are not combatants any more, and are not radically different from ordinary state (Bundesländer) level police, so I don't think they should be counted as paramilitary forces.
I doubt the number of reserve troops, which is currently given as 358,650, as the Bundeswehr has been substantially downsized since the end of the cold war, but I have no source how many reserve troops there are nowadays, so I didn't change that number. 
--87.79.65.207 (talk) 21:28, 14 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Germany 

message: When trying to sort the coloums, the cite note numbers are being counted as the actual numbers. This results in inaccurate sorting. 99.158.228.90 (talk) 23:44, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cite Notes Disrupting Sorting 

message: The Ethiopia number is right for active troops 182,000 but total it is estimated to be 252,000-300,000  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.105.67.58 (talk) 18:47, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ethiopian troop number 

message: The color for Canada on the World Map at the top of the page needs to be changes from 50,000+ troops to 100,000+ troops. (65,000 + 26 000 + 9350 = 100,350)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.12.69.162 (talk) 16:33, 11 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colour of World Map 

message: Righty ho, looking at this it appears the world's largest army is Iran, which is a bit wierd to say the least. On investigation it appears this is because they have the very precise figure of 11,390,000 paramilitaries. On further investigation it appears that this figure is basically based on the IRGC commander saying he's got more than 11 million men, which somehow became the more precise figure above. What I'll do is redress the figure to the more realistic 400,000 mentioned in the source, but I think this is a general problem. There needs to be some consensus on what constitutes a paramilitary, if anyone who has ever held or owned a gun and might start shooting if they got invaded counts then we might as well include the NRA in the US figures. If I do similar changes to other Paramilitaries and people think they're unwarranted please discuss here. cheers. Billsmith453 (talk) 18:18, 10 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Iran and in fact paramilitaries in general