Talk:Supernatural beings in Slavic religion/Archive 1

message: I've joined the four small pages into this big one because they all seem to be about the same thing just with different names. Three of them were already marked as merge candidates.
I'm not sure if "fairies" is the best term, suggestions welcome. --Shallot 10:53, 5 Jun 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge

message: I see that this article is in very dire state and getting progressively worse. Apparently a lot of people cannot understand that this is not a catch-all article but talks about specific type of creature that goes under many names. Things like vodianoy have no place here!!! I suggest a revert
 to earlier version.
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We're urged in this entry to "see Leimoniads, Limnades, Oceanids, Dryads and Nephelads." Someone knowing that there were water nymphs named Naiads, and knowing that the study of freshwater systems is called Limnology has invented Limnades.  I guess in a similar irresponsible vein you could say that Paludiades were mud-nymphs who live in swamps. Catch unwary male travellers for a midnight mud-wrestle I imagine. They make this stuff up faster than we can explain why its nonsense. Would someone else look into theswe specialized nymphs? Wetman 07:28, 9 Aug 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Revert

message: I removed the following sentence "Slovak myth tells us that they are the souls of deceased girls who were not baptized during Vladimir's baptism, and, in fact, the Slovak word for soul is vile." from the part about "Vila". 
I did this, because the word vile is NOT a Slovak word. Actually, up to my knowledge it has NO meaning (apart from being a dativ form of víla - "to whom? - víle."), therefore the whole sentence is at least doubtful. The source of this sentence is also somewhat unknown, since there's no reference to the source and the same sentence is repeated all over the internet, so there's most probably only one flawed source of this.
Well, and at the end, Slovak word for soul is "duša".
Being a Slovak, I can only say, that in popular mythology and Slovak folk tales "víla" is a mythological creature living in meadows or woods. Many times they seem to be exchanged with what is also called "rusalka". Finally, "víly" are mostly positively perceived creatures. In folk tales they usually help (sometimes also confuse) lonely travellers.
MongoloidMancuso 09:16, 6 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Vile" and Slovak mythology - source doubtful 

message: I removed Nephelads from the list of links as requiring confirmation. I couldn't find them on web. (On a positice side, though, I've found a topic, also missing in wikipedia Nepheloid). mikka (t) 23:00, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: OK. It was Nephele. mikka (t) 23:32, 11 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nephelads 

message: Why the revert on the Harry Potter ref? It's clear from the text that their beauty doesn't entirely explain their effect on men. 65.122.15.98 17:17, 15 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Veela 

message: What the f is the article talking about.  Rusalka in russian mythology is not a "demon".  We need to change this!--67.49.215.31 03:35, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Rusalka

message: Should the Baba Yaga be mentioned in this article?  I'm not that familiar with Russian folklore, but I've heard of Baba Yaga more often than these other characters.--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 02:58, 7 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: True, but this article is not just about Rusalka.  It's about all major Slavic fairies and fairy-like creatures.  Doesn't Baba Yaga qualify?--The Fat Man Who Never Came Back 15:17, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'd vote for at least a refrence to Baba Yaga, though I'm pretty loose with my definition of "fairie".  mordicai. 20:53, 23 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Baba Yaga

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thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Rusalka.jpg

message: I found a couple of other 'beings' that might be interesting to look at. Romanian Rusalii and eastern Serbian Rusallias. Rusalii are evil and can cause thunderstorms. They dance at crossroads and can cause illnesses when watched. These can be cured by de Calusarii, a group of sacred dancers. Up untill now villagepeople will hang herbs on their doors and windows for protection and there are many many more customs. In Serbia it is the women who dance in trance. Rusalii is an official holliday in Romania, celebrated at Pentecost, lasting up to a week. The name can be traced to the Roman Rosalia. Also Bulgarian: Roussalska/Roussali. Rusalka's from coast to coast, it seems.
Litsza 23:24, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Rusalii and Rusallias

message: The article doesn't actualy talk about them at all(a single mention isn't talking abouat them). Was it editted out or something?
IF so, it seems rather pointless now. If no one remembers I'll just remove the [now] pointless redirect. Kairos (talk) 11:04, 10 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why does Polevoi redirect here? 

message: It seems like vandalism, as it doesn't really have anything to do with Slavic folklore.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.147.232.105 (talk) 16:28, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  I'm going to delete the veela section 

message: Vila / Vilen are mentioned in many places in "Sagen und Märchen der Südslaven" by F. S. Krauss. It might be helpful to go back to this source to keep closer to the actual folkloric usage.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Royfreeman (talk • contribs) 17:33, 7 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vila/Vilen in Slavic fairy tales 

message: In Croatian Renaissance and Baroque literature vila was used as equivalent to nymph. Example: Italian ninfe e satiri (Eng. nymphs and satyrs) would be translated vile i satiri in Croatian. This tradition continued to modern day Croatian. 89.201.155.57 (talk) 02:37, 17 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Croatian Renaissance and Baroque 

message: Is there authentic Slavic lore that depicts the Vila as serving a Valkyrie like function to one of the Slavic gods (maybe Perun?) or is this some form of later syncretism? 62.196.17.197 (talk) 12:14, 14 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vila in a Valkyrie like role...