Talk:Salome (disciple)

message: It seems there is a little too much sympathy given to the apochryphal forgeries of early Christianity in this article. Clean it up, someone!
Tix 23:39, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As I'm sure you've noticed, but there are special tags to place on pages to indicate things like bias (or sympathies) in articles.  There are complete lists at Wikipedia:Cleanup resources and Wikipedia:Template messages/Disputes.  You should also know that followers of apochryphal Christian scriptures are a strong element on Wikipedia.  Any edits to this page will have to be done in cooperation with them. -Acjelen 01:00, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If anyone doubts whether assertions of violation of "POV" are code terms for "Not my point-of-view", the POV label has been applied here by User:Tom Peters "because|This article elaborates on apocryphical writings and mostly ignores the canonical tradition". Let's have some "canonical" tradition for this article, and let us keep in mind that Wikipedia is not an approved organ of the Roman Church. --Wetman 15:54, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: New Testament Apocrypha [[WP:Weight]]

message: Salome appears briefly in Mark, which is believed to be the earliest Gospel. Then her name is not even mentioned in Matthew, Luke, or John. Later, in the apocryphal literature, she is represented sometimes as Jesus' most faithful disciple or the woman who tried to tempt him. She must have been a prominent heresiarch, a major heretic and the leader of a heretical sect, which is why Matthew, Luke and John suppress her name. Saint or Heretic? Great Leader or Temptress? Or All of the Above? Next: The Salome Code.Das Baz 15:31, 15 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Salome the Heresiarchess

message: I am wondering if anyone has sources that identify that this Salome and Salome, daughter of Herodias are different people. I am not disputing this fact, I just think that that information should be properly sourced and integrated into the article, rather than simply given a passing mention in the redirect. 
--trlkly 06:40, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Salome the disciple at the foot of the cross of Jesus was a grown woman, the mother (perhaps) of James and John, grown men and followers of Jesus. The daughter of Herod was a young girl at the time of Jesus' ministry. It is unlikely that James and John were both grandsons of Herod and disciples of Jesus. There is no reason to suppose that the woman is the same as the girl. Rwflammang 03:04, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes - this is an issue that could be raised at many a disam page - How do you know they aren't the same person?  Perhaps a new tag is needed? Johnbod (talk) 00:36, 17 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Distinct Salome 

message: And the mother of James and John? Sorry, this "fact" just does NOT appear in any of the Gospels, it is an extremely thin inference that we simply are not allowed to make at this late date. I am removing. If someone puts it back, you MUST SOURCE. (Knowing already that there are no such sources.) 173.20.132.128 (talk) 07:12, 9 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The wife of Zebedee? 

message: I read somewhere she settles in Veroli, Italy and spread the gospel there. I also read 22 October for her feast day. Must get references. Rwflammang (talk) 17:18, 6 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently she plays a large role in the Gospel of the Twelve Apostles. (Epistula Apostolorum? Gospel of the Twelve?  Rwflammang (talk) 14:43, 2 December 2010 (UTC)

text: May want to discuss her role in iconography some more, too. Rwflammang (talk) 14:50, 2 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legend 

message: I do not think it is appropriate to state that Salome is the same as the mother of the sons of Zebedee as an objective fact (as was done on the article before). I instead wrote "She might be the same person as the wife of Zebedee" to make it clear that there is some dispute about this identification.  
On that note, I wonder if it would be appropriate to add another section to the article discussing the case for and against the link between Salome and the wife of Zebedee. Artemzista (talk)  —Preceding undated comment added 03:00, 15 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  More on the equation between Salome and the Mother of the Sons of Zebedee 

message: Not a language expert, but even I know that the Arabic "Salome" is cognate to Hebrew "Shalom".  Either Salome's name is from Hebrew "Shalom" (and that would be highly relevant), or the mention of the Arabic and Aramaic is irrelevant and inaccurate.  I'm not qualified to assess which. --2602:30A:2EA0:D9F0:F145:1DBC:D2FC:F6BD (talk) 18:11, 30 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Bad language comparison?

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