Talk:Jena, Louisiana

message: I added a neutrality tag to the Racial Tensions section.   This section supports the black point of view.  I certainly understand that; racism is very evident, but wikipedia policy is to maintain neutrality.  My main concern is when the fight is described.  The only view presented is that of the black students.  It fails to recognize that the white student was beaten after he had lost conciousness.  I also question the "week of intimidation", as I have heard nothing about it.  I do not believe CounterPunch qualifies as a reliable source. Stop Me Now! 14:47, 26 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't know there was a "black point of view" -- perhaps you mean the point of view of the defendants, which is a rather different thing.  That you haven't heard of something, or don't believe some source is reliable, isn't relevant.  If you think something is missing from the description and can source it, you are free to add it.  You've created a dispute where there is no need for one, and the tag should be removed with or without additions. -- 71.102.194.130 11:49, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Racial Tensions Neutrality

message: Does the town's name have anything to do with the Battle of Jena fought by Napoleon? Funnyhat 03:32, 1 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I could find out if you wanted, Funnyhat.  RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 22:56, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If you could, that'd be awesome. (You don't have to go out of your way or anything - I was just a little curious). Funnyhat 21:17, 23 August 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, but Jena, Germany was the location of one of Napoleon's military victories.  See Battle of Jena. Funnyhat (talk) 00:27, 22 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: What on earth is "stealth racism"? I have never heard of this term before.  RingtailedFox • Talk • Stalk 22:56, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: it's speech cosmetics. since there evidently is NO racism whatsoever in the US, it has to be STEALTHY if at all present. (the BBC broadcast a documentary about the segregated city of jena, and the "case" today) --Snottily 17:53, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Stealth Racism

message: Which reverends took part in this struggle?Kkrunkk 20:21, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Reverends

message: Hey I was just reading this article, and I had trouble understanding a sentence...It is in teh racial tensions part.  Thanks in advance:
Racial tensions resurfaced in Jena on September 1, 2006, when hangman's nooses were discovered in an oak tree on the campus of Jena High School after a black student had asked the vice principal if he and some friends could sit under the tree, where white students had typically congregated. The school administration recommended that the noose-hangers be expelled. The elected La Salle Parish School Board overruled the school, HIM and the three white student perpetrators received in-school suspension.[4] 
I capitalized the HIM that I am confused about BCapp 03:38, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It presumably refers to the white kid that was beaten. ~ 69.149.105.63 23:56, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Who is "him" 

message: The word fight implies there was a contest between combatants. Six against one is not a contest and the sentence doesn’t inform the reader who started the conflict. Wouldn’t it be more accurate to have written: six African-American students allegedly attacked a white student.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Patriotjohn (talk • contribs) 11:09, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: a fight broke out on campus

message: Hi, I would like to verify some information: today the German news magazine Spiegel wrote
that in 1918 Lula Coleman held the office the first female sheriff in the USA, and that in 1920 was the first female mayor of the town of Jena and the State (of Louisiana, I assume).
Does anybody in Jena, Louisiana know more about Mrs Coleman? --91.12.248.137 07:31, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lula Coleman 

message: Is the town's name pronounced "Jean-a" or "Jenna" (Jen- as in "Jennifer")
The town is pronounced "Jean-a"149.169.46.56 21:08, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Anyone have a source for this?  I had wondered about the pronunciation too.  Thx Grover cleveland 15:51, 10 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: The NPOV banner and  banner for lack of references should be removed.  There are references galore.  I also see no significant disputes regarding NPOV beyond claims of NPOV by a few editors above without further explanation and discussion.  I wait for comment and discussion before removing these banners.melonbarmonster 23:59, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There's a comment on the article page (at the top of Racial Tension and the Jena Six) that reads: . So, I think that all three templates should stay (current events is a given, though) NASCAR Fan24(talk•contribs) 12:04, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Racial Tension

message: Per the  tag in the "Racial tension and the Jena Six" section, here's one that sheds some light on why things may not be all that they seem in the polarizing national media:
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Frankly, after reading this, I get the feeling that most reporting (and punditry) on this is too selective with its sources and information to give any true perspective. Even this article inspires more questions. Did the students generally feel the way the staff claims to feel about the "white tree"? Was the multiracial horseplay with the nooses just ordinary goofing around, or an intentional teen community reaction to the implied threat? How many jurors (black and white) were called for the Bell trial, and how many of each group didn't show up? (The statement alone doesn't say enough to suggest whether it has any statistical meaning. Saying of the black jury candidates that "none showed up" implies there were several (not just one or two) candidates, but a pool of residents in a 10%-black parish that would yield at least three African-Americans would suggest several dozen candidates for the jury. Is that typical? The actual numbers would seem necessary for clarity.) It seems to me that we're going to need a lot more details to provide any meaningful perspective on this situation. ~ Jeff Q (talk) 08:23, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested additional sources 

message: It is heavily contested that this was a "fight."  Six boys attacked one boy and bloodied him.  Regardless of the appropriateness of the sentencing, describing the facts as a "fight" is incorrect.  This was an attack or ambush.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.34.234.180 (talk) 15:44, 23 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  NPOV 

message: This thing is a bit on the controversial side, because it involves racism and allegations of racism - and racism is a topic that stirs people's blood and causes them to do stupid things like vandalize and pick fights - and semiprotection was warranted here.  —  Rickyrab | Talk 14:45, 24 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Yeah: Semi-protect

message: 1995 Gubernatorial runoff: Foster 6078 (86%), Fields 1021 (14%) (Source)
1999 Gubernatorial initial election: Foster 82%, Jefferson 9% (Source)
Going 2 to 1 for David Duke (Source) is also troubling.
Just in case you wanted to know some more on the LaSalle Parish electoral history. The massive majorities for Foster (who didn't live in/near LaSalle) and Duke make the swing to Blanco even more troubling. --RobbieFal 01:28, 26 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extra electoral notes 

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