Talk:Shinji Ikari

message: I remember that within the first episode or so of Evangelion, there's an identity card where "Ikari Shinji" is written in kana. Not kanji... ~Think the same was with the other characters too. For example the name on his "step-mother's" (forgot the name) door. Andelarion 14:00, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Credits for the same episode list a kanji. --Matharvest 22:16, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kanji or kana 

message: I was confused by "Come! Ikari Gendo" as the reading of the note given to Shinji, I read it as meaning "Come, Ikari Gendo!" instead of "Come! [signed] Ikari Gendo". I changed "Come! Ikari Gendo" to "Come! -Ikari Gendo" in the first paragraph in an attempt to dispel any confusion.
Desire Campbell 24.222.232.225 09:58, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tiny, perhaps unnecessary, edit 

message: I took a stab at a broad edit/reshuffle of the content in the section on Shinji's character, but it still needs some work. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 16:19, 11 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Shinji's character

message: Alright, as hilarious as that is, I'm gonna have to demand proof on that statement
So, can anyone around here read moonspeak and have a copy of SRW @3 on them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.24.153.191 (talk • contribs)  19:19, 23 May 2007
:It's just a poorly written sentence about something that might not belong here in the first place. "Jesus Yamato" is not an official name and as far as I am aware has not been used in any anime or videogame in reference to Kira Yamato; it's merely a derogatory nickname applied by fans. Whoever wrote that was observing that Shinji, a widely disliked character from an anime with heavy religious themes, insulted Kira, another widely disliked character who fans derisively refer to as "Jesus". In other words, he was drawing a parallel between Evangelion's religious themes and Kira being unofficially nicknamed "Jesus". It's most likely a coincidence - I don't think the term "Jesus Yamato" even EXISTS in Japan, as it's a 4chan creation. Because of that, I don't really think it's worth putting here, but I'll leave it for someone who knows Wikipedia better than me. 146.201.132.62 (talk) 23:44, 29 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If it's a 4chan-ism, it probably needs to be removed unless someone can find a printed source that uses it. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 04:05, 30 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jesus Yamato? 

message: I culled the image from the article because, to my knowledge, Gainax has not officially leaked the trailer for Eva 1.0 to YouTube (or if they have, an official source for the info hasn't been found yet), which sets up a potential copyright violation if anything from the trailer is used in Wikipedia.  Willbyr (talk | contribs) 13:03, 2 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image from trailer 

message: Could someone with a more deep knowledge of anime culture than my own please write a section about the fact that many anime fans seem to actively hate him?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.69.118.1 (talk) 02:25, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reputation 

message: I keep hearing that Shinji has an S2 Organ in his body where his appendix should be.  Is this true or not.  Please just give a straight yes or no.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 63.113.61.147 (talk) 16:43, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never heard that before. Willbyr (talk | contribs) 17:19, 8 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Where the hell did you get that theory from? Anyway, it's not true. --75.135.82.7 (talk) 02:53, 16 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: S2 Organ/Berserk Theory

message: As a curious thing, Shinji shares the same name with the hero of Sei Jūshi Bismark, (Saber Rider and the Star Sheriffs) except for the notation Shinji Hikari.
Considered that the director of the latter is quoted as Masami Anno, that's interesting odds.
If anyone that knows anything about that could put it into the page, could be pretty interesting.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.65.207.222 (talk) 17:44, 19 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: His first name "Shinji" was named after Anno's friend and also a storyboard artist Shinji Higuchi. (Quoted from Japanese Wikipedia article of Shinji Ikari. The article also mentions that the original source is Anno's website.)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Warabi (talk • contribs) 23:38, 8 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bismark 

message: I check pages listed in :Category:Pages with incorrect ref formatting to try to fix reference errors. One of the things I do is look for content for orphaned references in wikilinked articles. I have found content for some of :Shinji Ikari's orphans, the problem is that I found more than one version. I can't determine which (if any) is correct for this article, so I am asking for a sentient editor to look it over and copy the correct ref content into this article.
Reference named "What-were-we-making":
From Neon Genesis Evangelion (anime): 
From Neon Genesis Evangelion franchise: 
I apologize if any of the above are effectively identical; I am just a simple computer program, so I can't determine whether minor differences are significant or not. AnomieBOT⚡ 23:33, 9 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orphaned references in [[:Shinji Ikari]] 

message: I've reassessed this article as Start-class, but I think it could go back up in class if some of the major issues are taken care of, namely:
* Original research - There is quite a bit of original synthesis, which is quite unnecessary, there are quite a few essays on the series that talk about Shinji.
* Organization - A lot of this is in-universe content, and the first half of the article contains categories that really don't need to be engaged in such depth.  Take a look at [the manual of style] to see how this should be presented (note that the MOS takes a real-world frame of references),
* In-Universe plot summary - I already mentioned this, but please note WP:PLOT.  Some explanation of the character's role in the plot is necessary, but it's not necessary to include most every facet of this character's activity in the plot.
Take care of these and the article can probably go up in rating.  It's already quite substantial.  --Kraftlos (Talk | Contrib) 12:48, 20 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article re-assessed 

message: The section on Shinji's appearance in Evangelion does not include his appearance in the last two episodes,instead, it stops at Kaworu's death and lets the End of Evangelion (which is an alternate ending to NGE) section finish the story for the viewers.Gonzales John (talk) 02:56, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: According to multiple sources, the last two episode of Evangelion and End of Evangelion take place at the same time. It's not an alternative ending, it's the same ending. --Tarage (talk) 03:20, 14 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: http://www.evamonkey.com/platinum-booklets/the-two-endings.php83.31.80.167 (talk) 21:31, 31 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't we include details of Shinji's appearance in  the last two episodes of Evangelion?

message: So, for some reason the reception about Shinji's characterization in a manga spin-off and mentions by other people developing anime and films are not allowed here per WP:Undue weight. The reception section isn't even big. It needs further expansion and covers the character's analysis and popularity in general. The fact that developers of Guilty Crown and that movie further help to expand how popular Shinji is. Another area that might expand the reception is his relationship with Kaworu Nagisa whose reception section is even bigger due to all the views of how he is interpreted. See Allen Walker or Yu Kanda whose series is less wellknown yet there is coverage about a lot of areas about him. Reception isn't undue weight.Tintor2 (talk) 02:52, 9 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Every significant analysis in regards to relationships is actually useful to every article. For example, rivalries, friendships and love interests are all relevant if critics analyze it. It's not that Shinji's personality and role in the story is the only thing relevant for the character. Imagine writing a Spiderman article without mentions of Mary Jane. It would mean the article lacks coverage.Tintor2 (talk) 23:25, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't disagree, but his relationship with Kaworu is about as relevant as his relationship with Asuka, Rei, or Misato (and for what it's worth has much less screentime and slightly less representation in subsequent merchandising, games and spin-offs), those are all briefly mentioned within the series and movies summaries, and I feel a larger explanation might be better placed in those character's own pages, as to give them an appropriate treatment would require writing three paragraphs or so for each one of them. In Asuka's case, I feel this is sufficiently addressed in other non-dedicated sections though in Rei's case it could probably be expanded. 2804:14D:4CDC:8654:D820:E1D4:5CDB:681F (talk) 23:27, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Yet the most discussed relationship within Wikipedia articles is the one he was with Kaworu both in episode 24 and the third rebuild movie. All notable relationships should be included but there is no need to make them too long if there is a general consensus. See the FA Naruto Uzumaki. His most explored relationships are Sasuke, Hinata and Boruto which made the article become a FA. Summaries are not reception. They should be reviews from critics. Even visual novel characters have this effect. For example Shirou Emiya is defined by his love interests from Fate as well as other close people. Same with Saber (Fate/stay Night) who is linked with both Kiritsugu and Shirou.Tintor2 (talk) 01:16, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: It wasn't the case some time ago when it was about as big as all the other ones as the expansion it had is fairly recent. Which is only natural, considering his role in the latest and most commercially successful new movie is gonna generate some momentum and interest on his character (as well as the fact that, unlike Kaworu, Asuka or Rei or Misato's characters are less ad hoc and revolve around a lot more than how they relate to Shinji thus giving too much detail to their relationship dynamics seems ill-advised), yet this is far from being the case in the EvaGeeks wiki or the Evangelion wikia or other popular places like Reddit, despite the obvious commercial appeal used by Gainax/Khara, which they use even more for Rei and Asuka, as yuri sells. All it takes is someone interested to put that in. Hell, Kaworu's reception section is probably the smallest it's been in a few years if you look at the page history and realize how many people thought it was a good idea to provide unsourced Tumblr speculation based on visual novels (with let Shinji date even Hikari). Again, the relationships with other characters are sufficiently explored in the other articles, unless you want to add some stuff by commentators like https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2002-06-11, but I don't think it's truly necessary as they're sufficiently covered in the other characters' own pages. Partly because Eva is not a romance or slice of life anime, Shinji's reception is far more dependent on his effect on subsequent anime and how he plays to Eva's themes than his relationships alone as you can verify on a number of receptions to his character including those quoted on this page, specially if you consider that the Rebuilds are far more Shinji-centric than the series which gave more autonomy to side characters, and considering Shinji and Wikipedia's own notability rules, I think we should probably follow those trends and not concern ourselves with excessive detail. But you know what, I'll edit in that article as I have seen it being referenced to often in lots of places and it is indeed a noteworthy piece of reception to Shinji's character and Eva as a whole.2804:14D:4CDC:8654:D820:E1D4:5CDB:681F (talk) 01:41, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

text:  Okay, I added in a few excerpts from that article. I think it particularly helps that it has some great exposés on how his relationships with others are are used to explore the show's themes. I think that adds some sufficient new detail about his character and how he relates to the show without going into undue weight. Besides, that article is also used in other Eva-related articles. 2804:14D:4CDC:8654:D820:E1D4:5CDB:681F (talk) 01:56, 13 March 2019 (UTC)

text:  That part was removed by some other anon (lol) who claims it is an unreliable source. I think you can agree it is a noteworthy piece of reception (as it was good enough for the Kaworu article), so it's not necessary for it to be authoritative but rather a relevant piece of opinion. 2804:14D:4CDC:8654:D820:E1D4:5CDB:681F (talk) 02:05, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: any attempt to shoehorn in shinji/karou nonsense will be reverted as it is synthesis  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.35.95.24 (talk) 02:11, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll agree some people seem to think Wikipedia is a shipping wiki, but it's not like he can't be mentioned at all as he does have a relevant role in the story. I do think the article is good enough for now, though. 2804:14D:4CDC:8654:D820:E1D4:5CDB:681F (talk) 02:16, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: i just removed a heaping hellpile of fancruft from kawrous article tintor2 please dont use tumblr as a source again  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.35.95.24 (talk) 02:22, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reception is undue weight 

message: The film only lasts 85 minutes yet the summary explains every single thing that happens to Shinji in the movie. How is that necessary?Tintor2 (talk) 22:32, 12 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: By the way, the current summary feels quite biased based on the informal tone used.Tintor2 (talk) 01:19, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right, I'll take a look at that.::: 2804:14D:4CDC:8654:D820:E1D4:5CDB:681F (talk) 01:45, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: You might have noticed that the old summary wasn't written by me and it's not only my additions that might sound too informal. I'll give that a general makeover to make it sound more encyclopedic, I guess.2804:14D:4CDC:8654:D820:E1D4:5CDB:681F (talk) 01:58, 13 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  End of Evangelion summary 

message: I think we should probably cite both Hideaki Anno and Sadamoto after him as creators, since Sadamoto is the character designer, but not the actual creator, writer, director. Many sources detail how he had some input in the creation process (particularly for visual aspects, of course), but he had no input later in actually writing the series. Some people believe he's the original creator because the manga was initially released before the series, however it was initially intended only as a promotional material for the series (which in turn had its initial released delayed), and evolved into its own story years later, after End of Evangelion was finished, since the release schedule was quite lethargic. I've noticed the Gendo page cites Anno, the Rei page doesn't cite Gainax, etc. So we should probably standardize those pages. If anyone objects, please note so here. FelipeFritschF (talk) 02:27, 18 March 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listing Anno as creator 

message: The Netflix release and its revised localization has attracted the ire of some Evangelion fans that are unhappy with the changes. I have already seen a couple of vandal edits, not adding anything besides meaningless synthetic edits like "Kaworu showed up and loved him so much". Wikipedia is not a place for shipping, and I fear the for the next few weeks there might be several similar edits by similar anons. I would like to request that this page and the 
Kaworu Nagisa be temporarily locked for the next month or so as to avoid such edits.  FelipeFritschF (talk) 19:06, 22 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I've already filed a request at WP:RFPP here. Lord Sjones23 (talk - contributions) 22:09, 23 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you. FelipeFritschF (talk) 00:14, 24 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism after the Netflix release 

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message: Wouldn't the first appearance be the 1994 manga? Mika1h (talk) 22:29, 19 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I think so.--TeenAngels1234 (talk) 13:39, 20 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  First appearance