Talk:Glossary of rugby union terms

message: OK, I've tried to remove the most egregious wrongness, but this page is still all kinds of awful.
* "Red card" should point to "Ordered off"; "Yellow card" and "Sin bin" to "Caution". 
* You can't have a tackle when a players not brought to ground...
Having said that, the sheer number of basic law misconceptions does explain why players are so frequently baffled by decisions. -- GWO (A Ref)
:I think the question should be whether the terms should reflect usage or the correct definitions as per the laws of the game. I prefer common usage with a note of what the correct term is.GordyB 11:34, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  There are serious problems with that; suppose we define a tackle using the common usage of "whenever someone is held".  Then a wikipedian adds a comment (elsewhere) that someone who is tackled must release the ball (a true fact).  Except now, anyone reading the wikipedia page and trying to apply it while watching the RWC, will reach the conclusion that the game makes no sense.  Let's use the proper terms, and where incorrect colloquialism exists, mention it, but state that they are common usage. -- GWO  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Gareth Owen (talk • contribs) 18:39, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think anybody will be confused by red / yellow card or sin bin. That's what commentators say even if they are not the terms in the law book.GordyB 21:56, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Fair enough Sin Bin, Yellow Card etc... I don't feel at all strongly about. I've added the proper terms, but left the common usages pretyy-much-untouched. -- GWO 06:18, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yuck 

message: I think it is correct to describe the All-Black haka as a specific type of haka. As I understand it there are many different types of haka and the All Black one is just the most famous (even then the All Blacks vary their haka from time to time).GordyB 09:47, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There are several types that have been used over the years. The main ones are Ka Mate, and the "new" one is Kapa o Pango. - Shudde talk 10:08, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I rewrote the original Haka bit, based entirely on Haka and Haka of the All Blacks. The point I was trying to make was that there was more than one AB Haka as Shudde says above. -- GWO 12:42, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To me, it sounds like the Haka is something that is solely performed at rugby matches when in fact, it is a traditional Maori style dance which is famous outside NZ through rugby. It's like calling "Sweet Chariot" a rugby song, it is but it is also sung by people with no connection to rugby.GordyB 17:43, 13 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Haka

message: I've added terms from the rugby union terminology cat. I'm not sure that all of them are used in ru. For example I deleted "Fair catch". If you see any that I have missed then delete them.
I am also not sure about Maori sidestep. Is this term all that common or was it just a throw-away quip?GordyB 13:10, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Torpedo punt - never heard it used in rugby union. Thoughts?GordyB 13:24, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Ditto. Never heard it in rugby union.  In rugby, nearly every punt spirals round its major axis.  FWIW, there was a style of place kicking called "torpedo" where the ball was angled sharply away from the kicker and towards the post but it seems to have fallen out of favour in the 70s (I have a book from that time with Phil Bennett demonstrating the art). -- GWO 15:26, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Isn't a fair catch a mark? - Shudde talk 22:13, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In American football it is, but it's not a term I've heard used in rugby.GordyB 23:08, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've read about the term, but I think it's archaic now. - Shudde talk 01:45, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  My 1958 copy of the  Laws describe a "fair catch" as "when a player catches a ball direct from a kick, knock-on or throw forward by one of the opposing team if at the same time the catcher makes a mark on the ground with his heel and exclaims 'Mark'." I think that qualifies as an archaic version of a mark,. -- GWO 09:55, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the question is whether we should includea archaisms or focus on modern usage. I think "Goal from mark" is okay even though they haven't existed for a long time but I don't think we need "fair catch".GordyB 10:06, 22 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New terms

message: Deleted this (twice) because it seems to have come from here . Somebody's in-joke ought not to be here.GordyB 16:05, 8 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ruck inspector

message: "Out-half" still used in Ireland: "PATRICK LAMBIE, the new Springbok out-half"
http://www.independent.ie/sport/rugby/locks-must-duck-and-dive-to-break-eben-3290096.html
* three-quarters
* five-eighths
* first five-eighth
* second five-eighth
--Nat (talk) 06:07, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Old names for positions