Talk:WWOR-TV

message: It is a variation on mntv logo.162.84.172.128 16:03, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: New DOG

message: I would like to see the logo from February moved out of the logo gallery and into the article near a discussion of the creation of My Network TV, without disrupting the article. Can someone more experienced in Wiki-code who knows what parts of the caption to cut do that?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Morgan Wick (talk • contribs) 
I've reverted back for three reasons:
1: the line about Nets conflict games previously airing on WLNY (added by IP user "71.247.161.235") has NOTHING to do with this article; that fact is trivial.  It belongs in WLNY, not here.
2: CoolKatt number 99999's attempt to restructure this article is unnecessary.
3: Johnissoevil's addition on the North Bergen tower, while being an important fact, can be rewritten, but I'll leave that up to him to do.
Rollosmokes 05:50, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  February Logo 

message: Too much has been done recently to make a mess of what had been a decently-written article.  The last revision looked too sloppy, so I had to make the changes to simplify it once again.
*CoolKatt's insistence on additional sub-sectioning the article based on the different ownerships of channel nine are redundant and unnecessary.  On first sight, it makes the whole text look disorganized.  I reiterate again that he tried to do the same thing with KYW-TV and WCAU and those efforts were nullified.
*Blueboy96 again rewrites lines and paragraphs that didn't need to be rewritten.  He attempts to add more information, but instead he overwrites and ends up adding stuff that really isn't directly pertinent to the main focus of the article.  The lines expanding on the aftermath of the UPN-WB merger and the creation of MNTV, and on how it all affected WWOR and its sister stations, doesn't belong here as it was written.  This article is about WWOR-TV, not the ramifications which the Fox-owned UPN group as a whole endured during that time.
I know what CK, David Levy, and maybe others will say about this: I am claiming ownership of this article.  As hard as it may be for you to believe (especially CoolKatt, the biggest practictioner of WP:OWN), I am NOT.  My only focus here is to write in an effective manner that KEEPS IT SIMPLE.  That's all.  Rollosmokes 17:30, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Before certain people jump over the cliff... 

message: I'm seeing zero cooperation and a disruptive number of reversions.  If this continues, I'm going to request that the article be temporarily protected.  This will lock it into the wrong version for someone, so I suggest that you stop reverting and start discussing.  —David Levy 18:45, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Am I the only one who sees this whole thing as WP:LAME fodder? Morgan Wick 01:57, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Edit war

message: Could someone more familiar with the My9 news team put up a list of its current anchors and reporters, similar to what's at the WPIX article? Also FYI, it looks like tonight was the last day at work for Rolland Smith and Cathleen Trigg. --SHODAN 03:19, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Current news personalities

message: With Channel 9 dropping UPN on August 31 and not becoming MNTV until a few days later, would that make the station an interim independent for those few days? John 23:32, 31 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I went ahead and made the edits.  Right now, technically, WWOR is an interim Independent until September 5.  If you feel the current look of the article isn't necessary, feel free to change it (just as long as the changes aren't vandalizm).John 10:14, 1 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Some confusion here...

message: I didn't put this in the main article because I felt it's just trivial info.  But that's just me.  Tonight, I was at work (I work in Sea Bright, NJ), and I saw several NYC news trucks ride by.  The WWOR news trucks still have the "Box 9" logo used between the time they dropped UPN from their branding and the time they added the "my" to the old logo.  Probably won't be long before they replace it with the current "My 9" logo. John 05:22, 2 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Fun fact, I'll place it here

message: Several folks who use IP addresses instead of screennames, specifically "205.188.116.204" and "69.34.89.183", have been insisting on editing this article without READING WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN.  Hence, their results have been redundant and their additions are unnecessary.  An explanation:
*To "205.188.116.204" - there is no need to list additional sitcoms picked up by WWOR-TV in the late '80s after the MCA takeover and overhaul.  Listing The Cosby Show is enough because of its prominence as the number-one program at that time.  Anything else adds too much needless detail, and this article is long enough as it is.
*To "69.34.89.183" - this user obviously didn't read the entire text.  The Joe Franklin mention is in the Trivia section.  I added that line, put it into the main article originally, but later decided it belonged in Trivia because it didn't fit within the article as it was written.  On the subject of children's programming, your changes were poor in nature (the word children('s) instead of kid('s) is proper grammar), and the Disney mention is pretty trivial.  You made other stylistic and grammatical changes (how is WABD going independent in 1956 "sort of" increasing the independent field when it obviously did?), including re-reverting the UPN-WB merger lines I simplified, and undoing the alphabetical arrangement I made with the news personalities section.  The Noon newscast mention should be in the news section.  Rollosmokes 17:23, 26 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Changes... 

message: I revamped the article on October 28, removing the logo gallery and placing the logos within the text.  With all of the fair-use image galleries being purged from television articles, I felt compelled to make these changes, as I believe the images should be kept, gallery or not.  As you can see, the logos are all placed in areas of the text based on chronology.  Rollosmokes 06:39, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not a fan of the interspersed logos, and would like to see the gallery reinstated.  Anyone else agree with me? Milchama 06:32, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably, but this opinion cannot override our fair use policy (which galleries of fair-use images seem to violate).  —David Levy 14:48, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Could some of these logos be removed? It seems to me that a logo that lasted less than a year doesn't really warrant mention, as it was more a temporary move than a permanent move.  My suggestion would be to show the UPN 9 orange/black/white logo and to mention that several variants were used before the final My 9 logo currently in use.  I also liked the gallery format, but I think that reducing the logos would reduce clutter on this page.  I welcome further discussion before I or anyone else acts on these suggestions.  Thanks.  --70.111.66.33 04:55, 28 December 2006 (UTC)

text: It is currently disputed that fair-use historical image galleries violate policy and the issue is being discussed at Wikipedia:Fair use/Historical logos in galleries. Please contribute to this discussion and help determine what to do about this. DHowell 20:38, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent Changes redux 

message: The current article says:
Call letters meaning: WWOR, the original calls, with an extra letter added
And, while that's certainly true, it doesn't explain where WOR came from in the first place. I looked in the article & don't see where the original callsign came from. So really I have 2 questions:
1) Where did WOR come from, and can it be added to the article
2) Shouldn't that info also be in the infobox?
Thanks in advance. --Diogenes00 00:14, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The call letters WOR stand for "World Of Radio", which I guess was an early WOR radio slogan.  There are enough Wiki-links to WOR (AM) so that anyone to learn about the origins of that station -- and of WWOR-TV, by extension -- can go there and find out.  Rollosmokes 06:40, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Callsign question 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Wwortv200.png

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thread_title: Adding unreferenced entries of former employees to lists containing BLP material

message: Is Zachary Fink still at WWOR or not? I am not sure. This link may be outdated. Rms125a@hotmail.com (talk)  22:06, 28 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Zachary Fink

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: There seems to be a dispute over which is the "official" logo. I asked someone to upload the correct logo not realizing that was a problem. If someone had described the facts on the Help Desk, this wouldn't have happened.— Vchimpanzee •  talk • contributions •  15:55, 19 April 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  New logo?