Talk:Criticism of Ryanair

message: I already noticed some PO Vness that I removed. Try to make this NPOV. WhisperToMe 01:21, 22 October 2007 (UTC)

message: Nominating this article for deletion (Wikipedia:Deletion policy) and adding the AfD tag under Wikipedia official policy  WP:What_Wikipedia_is_not#Wikipedia_is_not_a_soapbox. -- 201.19.114.143 13:46, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: AfD

message: I have closed the deletion discussion with the outcome that material should be salvaged from this article and merged to Ryanair.  When this is complete, the article can be redirected to Ryanair.  Please use this section discuss the merge. --Tony Sidaway 05:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Although this is horribly written, it is fairly well sourced, and certainly the airline has a huge number of critics. Having said that, this article is so long that it may take some time to determine which are the most important points that require salvaging. Sadly, this is probably the second most prominent airline in the UK and Ireland, and is a good deal more controversial than British Airways. No more bongos 12:11, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, if my first pass through is any indication, this article only appears to be well-sourced. Many sources do not appear to support the claims made or are used in a misleading fashion. It seems like this article can be significantly reduced in size, simply by check references and removing unreferenced and/or misleadingly referenced material. That should probably be out first step (tearing down all of the poor-referenced material). It should be helpful in determining what are the truly salient points to merge. Vassyana 19:35, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

text: (ec)I've made a decent pass through the article, removing irrelevant, misleading, unreferenced and poorly-sourced claims. If my relatively brief look-over is any indication, there are probably still similarly problematic statements in the article. However, I feel fairly confident that I've removed most of the offending material. I will take another run over the article later to see if I can find any remaining problems. After that, I'll start condensing the article in preparation for the merge. Vassyana 20:52, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I've sporked some of this to a subpage of my userpage as I don't have time to source it now. I know I can't paste it back as won't be GFDL compliant, but at least I can work on some of the insufficiently sourced bits (and completely rewrite them) as a couple of them that have gone are quite important (i.e. the two controversies over Charleroi). No more bongos 20:50, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  It should be OK if you copy/paste a previous version to your userspace, provided you indicate in edit summary where the material is drawn from. There shouldn't be any GFDL problems, because the article is not being deleted. It is only being cleaned up, condensed and merged. The edit history will be preserved, because it's required for merged articles due to GFDL requirements. Vassyana 20:54, 13 November 2007 (UTC)

text: I have removed some OR or ill-fitted pieces. mceder (u t c) 21:48, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge discussion