Talk:Take Me Home, Country Roads

message: Whisper of the Heart was not a Hayao Miyazaki film it was actually made by his apprentice see the article at Whisper of the Heart, he was a producer Rgoodermote 18:50, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Whisper of the Heart 

message: I don't have anything to cite for this, but my impression was that the was refering to west Virginia, not West Virginia.  As this entry mentions, that is where the Shenadoah river and the Blue Ridge Mountains are.
PerlKnitter (talk) 17:31, 12 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  West Virginia 

message: Isn't there a techno cover of this song too... I don't know the artist, but it is pretty popular at high school parties in Norway.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.139.246.107 (talk) 18:40, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Heard it in a club in Israel in summer 2004. Never been able to find it online 207.172.155.54 (talk) 00:18, 22 December 2008 (UTC)

text: You may well be here from this recent episode of Soul Music, like I am. I for one didn't know about this cover, but it is indeed very interesting. It was removed in this edit in March 2018, per the song covers guideline. I don't know if that episode would be the best source to add it back, but I'm sure refs are out there. Graham87 15:32, 21 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Covers

message: The song is actually (as I recall) about Route 118, not 117. 118 is a long road that wound through the rural (back then, anyway) parts of Maryland. 117 is a short road that, in effect, leads nowhere. It runs from Route 28 NW of Poolesville, to 355 in Gaithersburg. As to the song referring to west Virginia instead of West Virginia, Virginia is no "stranger to blue water" (a reference to the ocean) nor a "miner's lady," at least not to the degree that West Virginia is known for it's mining industry. The references to the Blue Ridge mountains and the Shenandoah River can be attributed to poetic license, as there were several rewrites from the rough version Bill & Taffy presented to John Denver. The Shenandoah does have a confluence with the Potomac River at Harper's Ferry, a place that can be reached by starting out on Route 118. Hope this helps clear up any confusion, and feel free to correct any misinformation I've presented.
69.205.113.102 (talk) 23:08, 1 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Bill Danoff's website says it was indeed Clopper Road:  "'Take Me Home, Country Roads' was inspired by a drive to a family reunion in Gaithersburg along Clopper Road -- which back then was still a country road."  (URL added as a reference to the main page).  Michael D. Sullivan (talk) 22:10, 26 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It would be interesting to know if the songwriters had ever even been to WV at the time they wrote the song. Part of the history is that Nivert was influenced by "an artist friend, who used to write to him about ...West Virginia ...." 2601:142:101:2BC5:14C5:169E:49BA:9770 (talk) 13:25, 15 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  The "Country Road" mentioned 

message: There's a (70's I think/70s style country) cover by Freddy Quinn  
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyoNOl24KHs & http://www.cduniverse.com/productinfo.asp?pid=1405568  109.224.137.121 (talk) 19:45, 30 January 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  another cover  

message: This song was also sung by Stan Smith and his band of illegal Mexican immigrants in an episode of the American Dad cartoon. It should be added to the Use in popular culture section.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ilikeguys21 (talk • contribs) 17:03, 4 March 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: There was also a very "interesting" rendition of the song by Mark Strong in Kingsman: Golden Circle.  Dangerously close to being trivia, but I suppose if we include one we should include the other. --Legis (talk - contribs) 08:55, 8 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: American Dad

message: :"Country Roads", is a song written by Bill Danoff, Taffy Nivert, and John Denver about the beauty of the U.S. state of West Virginia.
The song words say nothing like that. It was previously asserted that "Sweet Home Alabama" was about "natural beauty". Are you people complete nerds? Do you understand anything? Or is this just a stock response? All songs that refer to places are about "natural beauty". Is this written by robots?--Jack Upland (talk) 08:33, 8 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:SOFIXIT. You need not determine anything about anyone who wrote any of this to make it better. Remove unsourced material. Add sourced material. Improve writing. Clarify. If anyone disagrees, they'll let you know. - SummerPhDv2.0 16:02, 21 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subject of song 

message: There's no mention in this article of this song's use in the mashup "Forever Country," which went to #1 on the country chart.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Mooveeguy (talk • contribs) 17:19, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: If you have a source demonstrating its use was significant to the history of this song, add it and cite the source. Otherwise, it's kinda like Nixon being a minor character in a popular TV show, movie or novel: possibly important to that work, but not worth mentioning in Richard Nixon. - SummerPhDv2.0 17:47, 15 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know if it might be worth enough to be significant but here the official clip of "Forever Country" who have the lyrics at the beginning of the song. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9gAXwYZtfk  --Sd-100 (talk) 00:37, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's worth mentioning, as this song was the most prominent of those used in the mash-up.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:37, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Forever Country" 

message: Roy Acuff recorded this. Smoky Mountain Memories, 1975.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.128.44.44 (talk) 06:15, 5 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cover Versions, again 

message: The first two sources cited in the "Composition" section are the same article, originally in The Baltimore Sun and later distributed by the Associated Press.
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Should the two sources be combined or not? -- Pemilligan (talk) 01:01, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes. Use the earliest one.--Jack Upland (talk) 07:31, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  The same article from two sources 

message: The Blue Ridge Mountains and Shenandoah River in West Virginia are only to be found in the far Eastern Panhandle. This is the portion that is drained into the Chesapeake Bay via the Potomac River. The remainder of the state is in the Ohio watershed. Heff01 (talk) 04:16, 8 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eastern Panhandle 

message: The song is about an old Country road in Montgomery County MD called Clopper Rd, and has nothing to do with West Virginia.  Source here in interview with John Denver himself.  https://wtop.com/dc/2020/12/real-story-behind-take-me-home-country-roads-debut-50-years-ago-in-dc-club/ 2806:10AE:13:7382:609E:B225:3751:1D2C (talk) 16:21, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 16:37, 11 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 11 August 2021 

message: Glaring omission in wikipedia entries for this and the John Denver main page. Omitted is the song and Denver's connection to China: https://www.theatlantic.com/culture/archive/2021/05/what-john-denver-means-some-asian-immigrants/618784/
Theaternearyou (talk) 19:24, 13 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Endorsement by China’s leader, Deng Xiaoping

message: Following on from the previous discussion, and abandoning anything about whether the song is about western Virginia, there are two issues regarding the subject of the song. 1) Whether the song is about the state of West Virginia, and 2) where the subject of the song is described in the article.
To the first point, we simply do not have reliable sources stating that the song is about West Virginia. In fact, we have reliable sources stating that the song is not about any particular place, and is inspired by places in multiple American states including but not limited to West Virginia. This could be disproven by simply providing reliable sources stating that the subject of the song is West Virginia, but these do not appear to exist, and are contrary to the sources that exist in the article. There are, of course, sources that confirm the state of West Virginia is named in the song and there should be no controversy in reporting this in the article.
To the second point, we should not be describing the song in the first sentence of the article, and probably not the first paragraph either. Doing so would be contrary to our normal practices for music articles, regardless of the accuracy of the information. No matter what the song is about, we shouldn't be saying this in the first sentence.
I will wait for and invite discussion on these two points to have clarity on the article. Onetwothreeip (talk) 23:46, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  I think the RS issue of the topic of the song is a WP:DEADHORSE. You're the only one who seems to think the song isn't about West Virginia. --Hammersoft (talk) 14:03, 22 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The article in the Composition section says the song is not about West Virginia, and is attributed to a source. There is currently a claim in the lead sentence that the song is about West Virginia, and it is not sourced. Onetwothreeip (talk) 21:28, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  If you want the song to not be about West Virginia, then start an RfC. Right now, the consensus is 100% against you. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:08, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm asking for a reliable source from yourself or anybody stating that the song is about West Virginia, so that we don't need an RfC on the issue. Onetwothreeip (talk) 23:35, 23 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Seems like Sealioning to me.--Jack Upland (talk) 05:00, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: No, this is not targeted at any particular individual. If this cannot be resolved in this discussion, I intend on proceeding with RfC. Onetwothreeip (talk) 21:49, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:   This is really quite tiresome. The very source you claim proves it's not about West Virginia can be read to prove it is about West Virginia. How about you come up with more reliable sources that support your assertion that it has nothing to do with West Virginia. I've reverted your cn addition as the later source proves it's about West Virginia. Please, by all means, STOP this senseless changing and changing and changing and changing and changing and changing of the article. Consensus is CLEARLY against you. ENOUGH. --Hammersoft (talk) 22:40, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:   Which source is this?  This is a lie, I have never made this assertion, and I reject that assertion.  I presume you are referring to the same source that you allude to earlier?  This is the only time I have added a citation needed tag to the article, which you have reverted. I have honoured my earlier commitment not to change any claims in the article relating to the subject of the song (i.e. whether the song is about West Virginia). Onetwothreeip (talk) 22:58, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's pretty obvious at this point that you won't accept the consensus being 100% against you. I recommend you start your RfC. In almost all likelihood, it will not result in the result you want, but at least it will result. --Hammersoft (talk) 23:12, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: That's fine. In your previous comment you made a reference to a source. Which source were you referring to? Cheers. Onetwothreeip (talk) 23:30, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Song subject 

message: I read the opinions on this, but as I actually own farm in Shenandoah in western Virginia with west Virginia a short hike away trust me not some fool who would piss himself at the sight of a black bear and song of a coyote. 
The blue ridge mountains begin in front royal, virginia. That is where the road along the ridge (skyline drive) begins. Possibly some foothills extend into Maryland or west Virginia, but those aren't close to being mountains.
The Shenandoah river is in Virginia. I kayak it regularly. Lots of small mouth bass. It flows north to the Potomac river. If it spends any time in west Virginia is irrelevant. I'm not about to Google map it as some city folk did. I know the river.
The writer said inspiration came from trip to gaithersburg, Maryland. Nice place to commute to DC from. You can see foothills from there while speeding along an interstate nowadays.
Anyway, matters not at all. Let west Virginia have one insignificant thing to cherish. 204.111.9.2 (talk) 02:59, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  It is western virginia 

message: there was no " disruptive editing" just going to Youtube John Denver Take Me Home Country Roads has 400 million views the most of any of his music! This very article says it has 1.5 million digital downloads! so you can leave out my revision and try to "protect" it from facts but just know your article is less accurate because of it. Next time ask for the source instead of declaring vandalism. DAEDRICH THE MAN TUCKER (talk) 19:49, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. - FlightTime (open channel) 19:50, 24 October 2022 (UTC)

text: I presume the above is in response to the removal of this. Any information on Wikipedia articles that needs a citation and doesn't have one may be removed. See our Wikipedia:Verifiability policy. No citation was provided to support the claim made. Going to YouTube to see how many views a given video has would count as original research. That's not how we work here. We use reliable, secondary sources to support claims made in articles. Using YouTube as a reference to support the claim doesn't help; there are multiple ways in which videos can be viewed, many of which have nothing to do with YouTube. Therefore, the claim based on YouTube data is insufficient even if we did use it (which we won't). Sorry, but if you want to include that statement you're going to need sources to back it up. If you have questions, let us know. --Hammersoft (talk) 23:25, 24 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 24 October 2022 

message: Change “Regional anthem” to “State anthem” 67.242.156.125 (talk) 00:26, 25 November 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  State anthem is a type of regional anthem. See List of U.S. state songs: . TGHL ↗ 🍁 16:48, 5 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 25 November 2022