Talk:Agalloch

message: The current section reads like a blurb that you would read on the cover of an album. It's not encyclopedic in any sense. Can somebody please work with the sources and improve the text? Sentences like, "Don Anderson's proficiency with the language puts the band in a prime position to be able to put out stellar material from the lyrical aspect," are incompatible with an encyclopedia. "The band does not stop here though, their later work shows how adaptive they are with literary works" . . . really? Seriously? Is this a review of an album or something? This is strictly opinion. The entire section is written in this style. Raoulduke25 (talk) 15:55, 15 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Themes 

message: I've removed the message from the top of the article saying that this article doesn't cite any sources or references. The article now cites six different sources, due to edits made recently. AutumnStorms (talk) 02:23, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  References and sources 

message: Hi, I've added an additional piece of information to the "Influences" section, as this section mentions that Agalloch uses some non-traditional instruments but does not give an example of a non-traditional instrument that they do use. I have referenced my addition to an interview in which this piece of information can be found. AutumnStorms  —Preceding comment was added at 07:24, 8 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-traditional Instruments 

message: Obviously there's alot of debate on the genre, but I think it's pretty much been established that as far as a main sound goes, agalloch are folk/doom metal. I don't and never will consider dark metal a genre, regardless of what any of the band members think. Taking a look at the agalloch last.fm page (www.last.fm/music/agalloch), you can see that most fan's agree. PEiP 06:05, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Folk metal is correct, but it has no doom sound in it whatsoever. It is DEATH metal. Any sentient intelligent being could tell doom from death metal. Therefore, Folk & Death. And that thing, "dark metal" is simply ridiculous and pathetic. Someone correct it, thank you. Anonymous 21:09, March 2008 (GMT+2)  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.98.144.156 (talk) 20:11, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well you are wrong then, please get your facts straight and understand genres better, they are folk and black (not death at all) with doom (doom can be mixed) and post-metal elements. Although theres many problems with their genre (especially dark metal) so it's best to leave that alone or a big argument will ensue. −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪  kaiden  20:20, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Any assertion of genre must be backed by reliable sources if there is debate. Any claims made by individual users here is original research. = ∫tc 5th Eye 20:59, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Of coarse but where could these sources be? I'll have a go for sources to see if the genres can even be sourced, if not, then we have a problem. −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪  kaiden  02:40, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

text: I have finished sourcing the genres but only one is hard to reference and that is their post-metal/post-rock elements. Well, not really hard to reference but differencing the two. −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪  kaiden  08:36, 8 March 2008 (UTC)

text: Hmm sorry, either I added it unknowingly, or was just trying to restore it or simply forgot to look/had a styles section, so sorry with my faulty undos lately. They do have a neofolk release, a split album with Nest but as you said everything is just elements of it after that (same type of thing with Opeth’s Damnation), and neofolk fuses industrial music with folk music and experimental touches so that’s where industrial comes in. I think post-rock is just an influence and they are actually post-metal as one of their other genres or it is an element and post-rock the influence. I’ve listened to the band only a few times but not really enough to know for sure. I fully accept your arguments though. −₪ÇɨгcaғucɨҲ₪  kaiden  01:37, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No problem, mate. I guess the split album is good enough to leave the neofolk tag in. Cheers. --Bardin (talk) 02:11, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Genre?" 

message: How about some mention of Pantheism, which seems to influence a lot of their lyrics (they even have a song titled Pantheist).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.100.106.115 (talk) 01:06, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Pantheism?

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Agallochside.jpg

message: My watchlist has brought to my attention that an anonymous user edited the Agalloch wikipedia article who was under the impression that Agalloch is a progressive metal band. This was their edit. The edit summary of user 140.253.33.121 goes like this:
There are probably going to be some people who disagree with categorizing Agalloch is a progressive metal band, thus making a counterexample of the anonymous user's prediction.
So, here's the question. Part a: Is Agalloch a progressive metal band? Part b: Should the edit of anonymous user 140.253.33.121 be reverted? Part c: Considering the fact that Agalloch's music is already categorized with five different musical genres, will that affect the outcome of the decision? Thank you.
BTC 01:37, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The references for the genres were removed a while back. FireCrystal (talk) 01:43, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

text: Actually I just looked through the page and they're in the "Style" section, they were removed from the infobox into this section. FireCrystal (talk) 01:46, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Agalloch: A progressive metal band? 

message: An anonymous user just changed what was originally in the infobox's genre section from post rock to post-metal. I don't really know if it should be post rock, as originally placed, or if post-metal is fine as well. Understand that whatever the case, the anonymous user was editing under good faith. What are your thoughts?
BacktableSpeak to Meabout what I have done 02:26, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I personally don't think either one fits, but regardless, we'd need sources. = ∫tc 5th Eye 18:22, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: We do... it's just in the style section. Though it would be good to look for another other than allmusic. Why don't people look into the article more? FireCrystal (talk) 21:04, 26 April 2009 (UTC)

text: Yeah, I removed that. A source would be appreciated to classify Agalloch as an ambient band. Sure Agalloch has a few ambient songs such as The Misshapen Steed, A Desolation Song (maybe), and maybe The Wolves of Timberline, but that doesn't make Agalloch an ambient band per se. If more of their material was ambient, then maybe it would be considered for the genre to stay on there. Also, they have some music that are easily not ambient music. That's my two cents. I'm sure you're working in good faith, though. BacktableSpeak to Meabout what I have done 01:53, 6 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Post rock or post metal? 

message: written in english?
Unless you can find it in hebrew. lol  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.222.133.139 (talk) 03:27, 19 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: What do you want the information to display that is coming from the source? The mere fact that the album is planned to be released? If so, then I'm on it. BacktableSpeak to Meabout what I have done 03:57, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

text: Come to think of it, I don't know if it should be mentioned at all on the article. There isn't much information on the album out there. I'll see what I can do here. BacktableSpeak to Meabout what I have done 03:51, 20 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can somebody find a reference for Agalloch's next album 

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