Talk:Prince Ernst August of Hanover (born 1983)

message: Wrong statements are added to this page repeatedly. In particular claims that Ernst August Prinz von Hannover is a prince are provable wrong but repeatedly introduced into the main article. There are no Princes of Hanover since 1919. Clumpytree (talk) 21:18, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Caution: wrong statements on main page 

message: This page should not be at Ernst August (VI) of Hanover. Until his father dies, he is just Ernst August, Prince of Hanover (Ernst August Prinz von Hanover in German). Prsgoddess187 00:08, 7 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title of page 

message: * Prince Ernst August of Hanover (heir apparent) → Prince Ernst August of Hanover … Rationale: Prince Ernst August of Hanover exists as a redirect to a disambiguation page, however, I feel it would be best used for Ernst August, Prince of Hanover's son. It eliminates the heir apparent note and it also distinguishes between the head of the house versus a member of the house. —Charles 01:29, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since Prince Ernst August of Hanover is only a redirect, I feel it should be used as the title of this page. A link to the disambiguation page could be provided at the top of the page. Charles 01:32, 10 July 2006 (UTC)

text: *The current title may be clunky, but until papa dies, which considering his condition could be a day or decade from now, his father, if anyone would have the best claim to the proposed place it would be moved to. Once papa dies moving the article to Prince Ernst August VI of Hanover would be appropriate along with removing the redirect from the current name. Caerwine Caerwhine 11:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Ernest August is *the* Prince of Hanover, that is why the title is appended to the end of his name. EA Jr. is not The Prince of Hanover, he is a Prince of Hanover. Charles 16:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The suggested future move is inappropriate; Wikipedia is not a recognition agency for pretenders. 16:03, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm supposing that calling him heir apparent somehow implies that his title has some degree of legality (as if the Prince part is somehow any less implicative). Caerwine Caerwhine 11:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've closed the debate as move. 2/3 majority is good enough, I think.  Mangojuicetalk 19:56, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: *Support As nominator Charles 01:32, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Survey 

message: :Since Prince Ernst August of Hanover is only a redirect, I feel it should be used as the title of this page. A link to the disambiguation page could be provided at the top of the page. Charles 01:32, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *The current title may be clunky, but until papa dies, which considering his condition could be a day or decade from now, his father, if anyone would have the best claim to the proposed place it would be moved to. Once papa dies moving the article to Prince Ernst August VI of Hanover would be appropriate along with removing the redirect from the current name. Caerwine Caerwhine 11:38, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: *Ernest August is *the* Prince of Hanover, that is why the title is appended to the end of his name. EA Jr. is not The Prince of Hanover, he is a Prince of Hanover. Charles 16:18, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The suggested future move is inappropriate; Wikipedia is not a recognition agency for pretenders. 16:03, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I'm supposing that calling him heir apparent somehow implies that his title has some degree of legality (as if the Prince part is somehow any less implicative). Caerwine Caerwhine 11:08, 21 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've closed the debate as move. 2/3 majority is good enough, I think.  Mangojuicetalk 19:56, 23 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion 

message: As the eldest son of the Head of the House, Ernst August should correctly be styled HRH The Hereditary Prince of Hanover. This is in keeping with the style employed by his father, the current Prince, during his time as heir-apparent. Furthermore, this was the style used for the heir-apparent the last time that the house held only the designation of Prince while titles German titles were generally recognised, the period between 1692 (when it was raised to the prince-electorship), and 1714, when the Head of the House became a king. As well, this is the style used overwhelmingly by heirs-apparent to various former German houses. Someone noted, in editing the Template:Hanoverian Royal Family, that the official website of the Hanoverian Royal Family does not style him HRH The Hereditary Prince of Hanover. In fact, Ernst August is only referred to on the biographical page of his father, where he is called only by name (i.e. "Ernst August"). However, it certainly does not make sense that we should list him nakedly as "Ernst August", no title, not even a surname. If anything, it would be correct that he uses the same title that his father used as heir-apparent, and that appears across the board of German princely families as the norm for the eldest son. Therefore, Ernst August's title in the Infobox should be Hereditary Prince of Hanover, and in the Template, he should be correctly listed as HRH The Hereditary Prince of Hanover. Finally, for consistency with other heirs-apparent styled similarly, the page should be moved to Ernst August, Hereditary Prince of Hanover. GiovanniCarestini (talk) 06:34, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Can you provide a source where he is referred to as such? Here is his biog on the family site. - dwc lr (talk) 12:12, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry, DWC LR. I've been under the wrong impression that all of the houses distinguish the heir-apparent from the other members of the family. I guess this is only the case for some of them. Also, please disregard my suggestion of The Hereditary Duke in the Mecklenburg pages. GiovanniCarestini (talk) 18:57, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proper title for the heir-apparent 

message: This article needs a POV-revision:
#Germany is a republic. This person has no official title ("Duke") as there is by law no nobility in Germany. The "Prince" is just a part of the family name. Thus the introduction shoud firstly mention the legal name Ernst August Prinz von Hannover Herzog zu Braunschweig und Lüneburg There also is no duchy of Lower Saxony. However the "title" Prince or (even worse) Duke suggests wrongly that this gentleman has an official function an the people of Lower Saxony are his subjects to be ("heir apparent"). 
#The article wrongly suggests that he was assigned representation duties by the state of Lower Saxony. This is just wrong. Again: he is no elected official and holds no office which he could represent. Thi one source cannot be a prove of this continiously resuming function. The event mentioned in the source was organized by an entity of private law (http://www.germany.travel/de/impressum/impressum.html). 
I know that there a lot of fans of royality in Wikipedia but this article should be brought in line with the facts that apply to German law and then that Mr Prinz von Hannover Herzog zu Braunschweig und Lüneburg may hold titles that are recognised abroad ("line of succession to the British throne") Wo st 01 (talk | rate) 21:02, 26 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revision needed