Talk:Mega Man Zero (series)

message: http://poke.dyndns.org/rmz4/rmz4.htm no longer works. I also can't find it in Google's cache or in the Wayback Machine. Mayhaps it should be removed? 67.54.145.95 20:30, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-working Link 

message: (removed silliness)
lol, anyway while you are at it
you can also start on Megaman Power Fighters, the name is already there, 
Mega Man 2: The Power Fighters just do some editing, and i will help you along with it, becasue i don't know where to start
cheers:D
><ino 04:17, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Come on people

message: The games are most similar to the Mega Man X series, with the classic trial and error gameplay.
What the hell is this? I'm also conserned regarding this type of comments on the gameplay. Seems awfully POV. I will admit that the Zero series appears to be intended for Mega Man veterans (some prior knowledge is required just to get what the hell is going on with the plot) but what this seems to indicate is that the series has either flawed or not very well implemented controls.
Or maybe I'm getting pissed over a single line in the article and want it changed to something a little more encyclopedic.
:"trial and error" gameplay in this sense means that you will die multiple times before you find the pattern and move on.  It's a feature, not a bug.  Anyway, the Z seires does play like the X series. --Boco XLVII 21:23, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bizarre Wording 

message: Yeah, this article's been vandalised a lot as of late. I propose that we lock this article down until the vandals get bored and go away. After all, it's not as if anybody else has got anything more to contribute to this article.
P.S. How do you lock an article, anyway? Wolf ODonnell 13:49, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Indeed. The vandalism is clearly becoming absurd. Regarding "locking", its cited as Protection, and for that adminship capbilities must be enabled. Shall I bring it up in WP:AN/I...? -ZeroTalk 14:20, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I see. I recomend WP:SEMI, however. -ZeroTalk 16:37, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vandalism 

message: Images I've uploaded to expand the article:
*:Image:Cyber elf System.jpg - screen of the newly implemented Cyber Elf system in Mega Man Zero 3.
*:Image:Mega Man Zero 2 Screenshot2.jpg - Image of the player facing off against the boss Polar Kamarous in Mega Man Zero 2
*:Image:Mega Man Zero 2 Screenshot.jpg -Image of the player facing off against the boss Mega Scorpio in Mega Man Zero 2's Intro level.
*:Image:Mega Man Zero 3 screenshot2.jpg - Image of the player fighting Omega in Mega Man Zero 3
*:Image:Mega Man Zero 3 screenshot3.jpg - Zero fights against an boss in Mega Man Zero 3
*:Image:Mega Man Zero 3 screenshot.jpg - Intro stage of the first Mega Man Zero game.
*:Image:Mega Man Zero 4 screenshot2.jpg - Zero utilizing the new Z-Knuckle.
*:Image:Mega Man Zero 4 screenshot.jpg - Image of Zero traversing one of Mega Man Zero 4's many stages. 
-ZeroTalk 14:54, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uploaded images 

message: Sections I believe would be necessary to include in the format pertaining to the article:
*History - explains the series production and creator thesis
*Games - table of games (I've just completed this)
*Other - suggestions by others.
-ZeroTalk 18:40, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Format 

message: To whom ever added some pictures
GREAT WORK!
But we also need a picture for the front cover/ front case of the game!....using the in-gameplay for the title picture doesn't seem right!
:>x<ino 00:39, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. We do possess box art, but only for the individual games. This article covers the series as a whole, so a screenshot to illustrate the series will suffice. -ZeroTalk 00:43, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  pictures added 

message: Though they're relatively obscure. Would it not be best to include atleast some mention of both these additional materials? Both are very important for the overall series when it comes to filling in the plot. Vile's Incident and Telos tracks being of the most importance as the latter document events that occur during the games, but off-screen and the former documents the epilogue of Rockman Zero up till 2 years after the events of Rockman Zero 4.
-Zan Sidera-
: And what do you suggest we do? Add a "Related Merchandise" section and describe these materials briefly? Wolf ODonnell 10:40, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  I'd suggest merging them into appropriate sections pertaining to thier relevance in the storyline, weather it be the main article, the individual articles, or both. -ZeroTalk 11:08, 26 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  RTRZ and Vile's Incident 

message: Quote: "Mega Man ZX features a support character that goes by the name of Girouette, it is theorized that this character may be Zero because of his likeness. In support of this idea, Girouette's Model Z lacks a helmet, which was shown at the end of Mega Man Zero 4 in ruins."
I think this has no point, as Girouette is a newer style reploid and some of his determining appearances do not match to Zero's. This could purely be a coincidence. Zero could have survived and become a Live Metal at an unknown point of time. And a helmet may not be needed to look like Zero anyways.
Reploidof20xx 11:36, 24 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Girouette/Zero theory 

message: do you know wher I can find the origin of this text ? Thanks
- Zero is not the original carrier of the virus. Hell, Dr. Wily didn't even engineer the thing.
- Dr. Light created the virus as a means of pacifying his creation, X. This "virus" keeps X calm and creates his hatred of violence.
- Zero was built as a pure raging homicidal maniac, so we can just infer that Wily completely circumvented the Rules of Robotics with his creation.
- Zero got the virus at some point*, and it does to him what it does to X, in that it suppresses his violent tendencies and makes him "good" (I remarked to Mav that this hilariously validates the back of MMZ1's box now). Zero becomes a Hunter as Sigma's mental state deteoriates (I think it's inferred, if not stated, that Sigma gets the virus from X. How he becomes the carrier and eventually the virus itself is either not explained or not translated yet).
- The reason Mavericks become they way they do is because they can't handle the virus in its raw form. They go insane because of it, which circles back to the potential cause for irregular behavior being some sort of design defect that X and Zero don't have because they are the originals.
- Zero is sealed away at some point in the X series era.
- Zero's copy body is made during this timeframe, and his memories transferred (the mysterious scientist in X6's ending?)
- Zero wakes up in his copy body to help X fight in the Elf Wars.
- Weil, as we know, finds Zero's body and builds Omega around it, because Zero is "immune to the virus". Perhaps that cleansing worked?
- Dr. Weil had corrupted the Mother Elf in his own way of doing good, because he wanted the Elf to destroy everyone he considered evil. Omega, who he created using the original body of Zero (that part wasn't retconned, thankfully), went overboard and killed 90% of Reploids/60% of humans instead. Elf Wars blamed on Weil, citizens of Neo Arcadia illegally banish him, yadda yadda.
- Guardians reported killed at the end of Mega Man Zero 3; they are said to have been destroyed in Original Zero's explosion. Mother Elf shielded Zero and returned him to the Resistance.
- Zero 3 was initially slated to be the end of a three-game arc. Zero 4 was created, presumably as a way to bridge MMZ to ZX by killing Zero and setting it up for Models Z and X to be Live Metals with the other four Guardians (point explained below).
- Oh yes, Ciel and Weil's ancestors were once bitter rivals. As Mav told me, "imagine what you will from that". tongue.gif
*What's weird is that it says Zero was the first one infected, so Zero and X have to meet at some point PRIOR to the whole Zero vs Sigma fight. Has to be relatively soon, too, if Zero is still a maniac when Sigma fights him, and the virus "turns him good". Yes, this is extremely screwy...
This text was posted by Zan Sidera on http://megaman.retrofaction.com/community under the Mega Man X section and concerns a booklet that officially rectons everything that's been said in the X Series games and quite a bit of Zero series background story, which kinda makes me think we should strip out all mentions of plot from the game articles. Wolf ODonnell 15:38, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  hum ? 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Mega-man-zero-3-20040810021212099.jpg

message: Why was the character paged removed/redirected? C'mon, a good portion of the characters are important to both this storyline, and later ones (ZX, whatever events happen between X and Zero, maybe even Legends). ChromeWulf ZX 02:48, 21 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Umm...One Question...