Wikipedia talk:Requests for history merge/Archive 1

message: I've just found this place after numerous history mergers and blocked mergers found at WP:RM.  In many cases the histories need to be merged but cannot because of the block compression.  The solution I worked out there was to move the history (to me merged in) to foo/history and note it with .  When the issue is resolved it can easily be merged into its parent.  That template also adds the :Category:Pending merge for easy location. violet/riga (t) 18:52, 6 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Merges found at WP:RM

message: It seems that there's a bit of a gap in our cut-and-paste repair system.  Currently, there isn't any place for a non-admin to request a history merger.  Consequently, I propose that this page be modified to look something like this.  It creates a section at the top for non-admins to list merge requests, and retains the section for merges that can't go ahead due to the database problems.  Comments? --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 17:41, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:RM deals with quite a lot of these things. violet/riga (t) 17:52, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Should the instructions on that page be amended to reflect that, then? Perhaps a section on that page specifically for repair of cut-and-pastes...? --TenOfAllTrades (talk/contrib) 18:47, 9 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  History merge requests by non-admins 

message: Since there's a criteria for speedy deletion (csd-g6) that can be used to fix cut and paste moves and a specific template  to be used on those pages, isn't this redundant? Same goes for Template:capmv and the related category :Category:Cut-and-paste moves to be undone (that's currently listed in cfd at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 January 15). - Bobet 20:02, 16 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is there a point for this anymore? 

message: Template:Capmv has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion#Template:Capmv. Thank you. - Bobet 21:21, 5 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TfD nomination of Template:Capmv 

message: Why do we have people do this? It'd be easier to read if they were added to the top. Can we change it to that, or is there something I'm missing? Snoutwood (talk) 14:55, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be my personal preference, makes it easier to follow. I'd actually like it if fourth-level headers would be added to each request too, perhaps a title such as ====Copiedfrom → Copiedto====. I think that would make it a lot easier to know what has to be done, as some of these requests I have to read through four or five times only to find out that's just a really simple, standard cnp mv from one article to another. AmiDaniel (talk) 22:48, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sounds good, I agree (add new to top, with fourth-level headers). I have the same trouble trying to figure out what should go where. Shall we add that into the instructions? Snoutwood (talk) 05:34, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Listing new requests at the bottom of the section 

message: It seems strange that this page is uncategorized. Does anyone know the proper category in which this page belongs to? --Siva1979Talk to me 20:00, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have just categorized this page. Please state any objections you may have to my talk page. Any comments about this would be appreciated as well. --Siva1979Talk to me 21:37, 26 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Looks good! Snoutwood (talk) 23:35, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category 

message: Is Template:Pending merge needed at all? As far as I can see, it is no longer used. --- RockMFR 01:47, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've redirected it to Template:Db-histmerge. Snoutwood 03:39, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:Pending merge]] 

message: Personally, I don't like , as it's easier for me to just watch this page, which allows me to easily spot new entries. Additionally, that template cats items into the morass of CSD, which I don't think is the best place to put the more complicated issues like history merges, as I doubt that they get dealt with very well there. Does anyone else feel this way? My idea is to change db-histmerge to a page with instructions on how to list something here, and then change the instructions here and on WP:HISTMERGE and have this be the sole place for listing these issues, rather than having, as we do at the moment, here,  CSD, and :Category:History merge for speedy deletion (which is only two months old and which I didn't know about until I looking into the code of db-histmerge). What do people think? I'm aware that this need to be discussed in other places as well, but I wanted to get some opinions from here. Kyle Barbour 20:15, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've nominated db-histmerge for deletion — please post your thoughts, opinions, and comments here. Kyle Barbour 21:08, 19 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Get rid of db-histmerge? 

message: Is there an easier name for this? It is a bit of a mouthful and at first glance hard to understand. Simply south 18:45, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I usually use the shortcut WP:SPLICE.  I imagine we could perhaps remove the words "holding pen" from the title. --After Midnight 0001 11:44, 15 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: See Template talk:Db-histmerge#Proposed redesign.  —Ilmari Karonen (talk) 01:44, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed redesign of [[Template:Db-histmerge]] 

message: I thought most complex history merges were requested at WP:AN/I, and I've been around for a while.  I think that it would be a good idea to add links to the WP:AN / WP:AN/I header directed towards this page.  Otherwise, I doubt many people will find it.  --Iamunknown 12:28, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  This page is unfamiliar... 

message: *What to do when Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen gets too long (currently it is 88 kilobytes long)?:
*#Delete the oldest  and  requests?
*#Delete all the  and  requests?
*#Move them to an archive page like when a talk page gets too long?
*#Move Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen to Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen/Archive 1 or similar, to take the history with the entries, and then create a new Wikipedia:Cut and paste move repair holding pen with no entries?
*#Or what?
*:Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:25, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think in the past (e.g. ), the older requests seem to have been just removed off the page. And I just noticed #Archive above which has some discussion previously. Tra (Talk) 14:55, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  What to do when this page gets too long? 

message: *I have split the  section and the  section into monthly subsections. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 10:21, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Sections

message: Is there a template like Template:RMlink to standardize a request for a splice? 70.51.9.124 (talk) 15:11, 14 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  template 

message: A splice repair was done at Mount Royal , Mount Royal, Montreal and Mount Royal (disambiguation), however the new title is not clearly the better one... all the incoming links to the new dab page location Mount Royal are for Mount Royal Montreal, while Mount Royal Montreal has no incoming links virtually. Shouldn't the histmerge have reverted the pagenames to what they were before the C&P? 76.66.198.171 (talk) 20:50, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mount Royal 

message: *Shouldn't c&p page swaps (when multiple pages are exchanged with each other, instead of just moving one page around) be brought to the attention of WP:RM? Since this sort of thing is supposed to be discussed at WP:RM, from what I read about what it does, it seems like a circumvention of consensus building to correct the page history and not restore the status quo anti-bellum (if a recent swap) and note it there, or if a non-recent swap note it there to anyway. 76.66.198.171 (talk) 11:16, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cut and paste page swaps 

message: *A while ago I was browsing through CAT:CSD and found a db-histmerge tag, which I took care of.  However, I didn't list it here, because I thought this page was only for histmerge requests. But now I see that some of the ones listed on this page are marked "requested by db-histmerge".  Is there a reason to list those here?--Aervanath (talk) 08:03, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requirement to list on this page? 

message: I'm posting here as this talk page seems to be more active than Wikipedia talk:How to fix cut-and-paste moves. Can cut-and-paste fixes be done independently by an admin, or they must be tagged first and then the subsequent processes follow? Jay (talk) 10:36, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: There are no required procedures to follow, any admin can do it. This page is for non-admins to post requests for fixes, but admins obviously don't need to.--Aervanath (talk) 10:50, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is the minimum participation required? 

message: Would I be accurate in saying that this is project that is best suited to admins?  I'd be interested in helping out here a bit from time to time, but as I understand the project page, it appears that most of the abilities that are required would only be available to administrators.  How accurate am I in that understanding? (originally posted at WP:CUTPASTE talk) — Ched :  ?  06:33, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: 100% accurate, I'm afraid.  In order to perform the history merges required, you need to be able to delete and restore pages.  Since only admins can do that, it unfortunately restricts the ability of helpful editors like yourself to aid in the process.--Aervanath (talk) 15:28, 7 June 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll be asking for some education in this in the very near future.  Thanks for the reply. — Ched :  ?  20:40, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  question 

message: Would one of you kind folks take a look at this thread please.  I deleted the redirect, and moved the article from user space to article space: Devendra Prabhudesai.  If there are any history issues I've missed, or I've done this improperly, could you please check my efforts and let me know.  Thanks. — Ched :  ?  20:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  eyes please 

message: If I edited an article at Wikipedia:WikiProject Pokémon/Charizard and then C+P'ed the info to Charizard, could you move the history from the Wikiproject into Charizard? Blake (Talk·Edits) 00:44, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Simple answer is yes, so long as Charizard does not already exist at the time of the cut & paste or if it existed has not changed, apart from the cut and paste, since article Wikipedia:WikiProject Pokémon/Charizard was started. Keith D (talk) 21:54, 8 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wondering how this works. 

message: I reading now for quite some time trough the Wikipedia, but i could not find a solution yet.
I understand (I think) about the db-histmerge tag. When there was a cut & paste move it seems to be perfect. But what to do, when the could & paste move has not yet happened. OK, there is the plain move. But only, if the target is not yet there. In that case we can ask an admin to do so. But doesn#t the history of the target gets overridden by the source history?
The case I have (yes, I know now, bad style) is that there was that article (and still is) Superluminescent diode. This one has been copied (by cut&paste) to User:Lmmrs/Superluminescent diode - with an note in the original article. It has been completely rewritten and should now be moved back to Superluminescent diode merging the history of Superluminescent diode and User:Lmmrs/Superluminescent diode.
How this is done? Thanks for your kind help.
-- lmmrs (talk) 16:08, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  The seconds before db-histmerge 

message: * 29 entries have appeared in :Category:Candidates for history merging in the last few hours. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:45, 31 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes that was the one - I did not spot the spelling mistake. Keith D (talk) 10:35, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who does history-merging except me? 

message: *:Category:Candidates for history merging now has 10 entries. It is 11.10 pm here in England and I want to go to bed. Some help would please be appreciated with the history-merging. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 22:11, 20 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes that was the one - I did not spot the spelling mistake. Keith D (talk) 10:35, 21 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Who does history-merging except me? (2)

message: seems to be a repeated cut-and-paste-r, since I just posted several pages for repair just now, and several more pages that had quick reversions I did not post. There's atleast 10 of them in his history. -- 76.65.128.252 (talk) 01:40, 1 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: [[User:Maad Dogg 97]]

message: Change made and reverted pending discussion at Wikipedia talk:How to fix cut-and-paste moves#New section: How to handle the left-over redirect. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 16:31, 20 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed change to Wikipedia:How to fix cut-and-paste moves 

message: * :Category:Candidates for history merging has accumulated 13 members overnight. Who except me does history-merging? It is 6.15 am here in England. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 05:16, 14 August 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: "Who except you does history merging" - I've been wondering that myself.  Thanks for all you do.  davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:14, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who except me does history-merging? 

message: Discuss at Wikipedia talk:How to fix cut-and-paste moves#Proposed details= parameter for Template:Histmerge. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 19:15, 21 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed improvements to [[Template:Histmerge]] 

message: I found Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/list of horror films released in 2013., which has some text that could be merged to . Apart from my postponing of G13 deletion and adding a comment, they don't have parallel histories: the main-space article was started after the AfC draft was abandoned. The regular merging instructions don't seem to apply, because AfC drafts don't have an associated talk page, and are likely to eventually be deleted under G13. Should I ask for a history merge? —rybec 04:43, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  merging from Articles for Creation? 

message: *Wikipedia:Cut-and-paste-move repair holding pen near its start contains this:
:::"Currently the only technical limitation is that category and file description pages can't be moved.".
::Category pages can now be moved, and what is a file description page? Images can be renamed now. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 08:51, 24 October 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: An edit needed?

message: As seen from Arhive 1, archiving for the page was started only in February 2008. It was noted in an earlier discussion that there is no archival value for the requests posted on this page before that, since only requests posted on this page were recorded. However, it is obvious that that holds true even now. Only a few, selected admins make a record of their histmerges on this page (Anthony Appleyard, Anne Delong, EdJohnston, and probably a few more). So, I have been pondering over the idea of resurrecting all the removed requests from the page history of Archive 1, to create an older archive. I think Archive 0 should be an appropriate name, as it is too big to be accommodated on Archive 1 itself. The present version is at User talk:103.6.156.167/sandbox. (I haven't completed it yet.) I am of the opinion that this archive has more archival value than any of the existing 21 because, with due respect to Anthony Appleyard's tireless work, they all look like userspace logs since 95% of the entries are by the same admin. 103.6.156.167 (talk) 06:41, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archive 0 

message: Moved to Wikipedia:Requests for history merge#Queried requests. 103.6.156.167 (talk) 06:43, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request 

message: Looking at the history of Young Pakistan Flag Movement, Taeyebaar did in fact do a cut-and-paste move from Younge Pakistan Flag Movement even though he thinks that he didn't and removed the notice from his talk page in Special:Diff/709912442. If not Taeyebaar, then who actually did the cut-and-paste move? GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 01:26, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: It was in 2009 and has now been fixed. What does it matter who did it? Jenks24 (talk) 13:30, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Taeyebaar and Young Pakistan Flag Movement 

message: It has been suggested that the to-be-created Page mover group be granted the ability to perform history merges through Special:MergeHistory. Participate in the discussion at WT:Page_mover#Discussion:_Include_MergeHistory_tool. 103.6.159.86 (talk) 10:43, 16 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page movers proposal 

message: I've started a discussion here regarding the creation of a new "history merger" user right, which may be of interest to those watching this page. Omni Flames let's talk about it 07:10, 31 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discussion at VPI 

message: Hello Wikipedia Team 
I created an article named Sober on Tuxedos (band) and it was deleted. The problem is that it still appears on facebook and I don't want that to happen. 
If you please have a way to make it disappear from facebook, I would appreciate it.
Thank you in advance 
Mad00lini (talk) 05:40, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Total page removal  

message: Hi there! I have a lot of experience with page moves and other moves, but not history merges and figured I'd ask here. I just realized that a couple of the articles that I created in 2009 in my userspace, I moved with cut-and-paste merges instead of proper history merges. I've listed them all below:
*User:Nomader/Donkey Kong to List of Donkey Kong video games
*User:Nomader/Wario to List of Wario video games
Let me know if I should just tag the lists and thanks so much! Nomader (talk) 14:38, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Figured it out and taking care of it, feel free to ignore this cmt. Nomader (talk) 17:29, 18 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series of Userpage history merges 

message: I'm trying to merge Draft:17776 and 17776, and a history merge is probably needed, I suppose. However, there's yet to be a cut and paste job moving the contents of the draft to the mainspace, but generally, the merge would pretty much replace most of the information on the mainspace article with the draft. The histories don't overlap at all in terms of time. The draft's entire history comes before the mainspace's entire history, and the draft has only one author: myself. I'm not really sure what to do with the situation. Is there any advice about it? ~Cheers, TenTonParasol 15:48, 12 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not yet a cut and paste job 

message: Due to a copy and paste merge from Cheque clearing to Clearing house (finance) followed by an article move from Clearing house (finance) back to Cheque clearing, most of the edit history now in Cheque clearing belongs to the article Clearing house (finance) and the Cheque clearing article has lost its edit history. I believe this needs an administrator to resolve, but I am not sure how to specify the request. Would anyone be able to assist with this please? Whizz40 (talk) 21:41, 17 October 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cheque clearing and Clearing house (finance) history issue 

message: Hi, it appears I screwed up when creating a page for Ron Stallworth, the retired police officer who infiltrated the KKK.  There was already a page there for a football player who had played two seasons and for whom there was very little information available. I made a judgment call that the cop Ron Stallworth was way more notable, based on the volumes of material that have been written about him, and I "moved" the football player to Ron Stallworth (American football) - except I didn't really move him, it turns out, not properly, at least. I did what I now know is called a "cut-n-paste" - apparently that's a big no-no - and then I proceeded to create a new page for the cop from scratch. I don't know how to fix this. Please help! Thanks. Amsgearing (talk) 01:09, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I saw that. Thank you very much! Amsgearing (talk) 11:43, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ron Stallworth 

message: I revised an article using my sandbox and need to carry out a History Merge. I first asked in the Teahouse, Wikipedia:Teahouse#History_merge_(Monomelic_amyotrophy).  I am reposting here hopefully more clearly than I was in the Teahouse, with a short reference to this on your project page.  I posted my intended cut & paste thievery in the Teahouse post.  I should should have posted this here in the first place.  I'm using a sort of a "gorilla in a china shop" approach, my version of being bold I s'pose. 
I made a Peer Review request for completed a revision detailed below.  But History Merge is my first issue.
:HISTORY -- WHY A HISTORY MERGE --  MONOMELIC AMYOTROPHY
*A few weeks ago I posted {Dubious} and made a couple of other edits to Monomelic amyotrophy.
*A MED reviewer made some cuts including my revisions.  The article was now a mere STUB
*Sad day. Lamentations and wailing. Then time to get to work.
*I made a few more revisions but big needed edits became too complicated.  
*On [10:51, 16 May 2018] I cut and pasted the scrap of an article into my user sandbox (MMA revision) so that I could revise at my leisure.  
::The revised article is more than twice as big in size and more than triple in references. I got good help for the article but am stumbling through all the WP ins and outs.  When I started the sandbox project I saved frequently w/o explanation.  
*In time I started getting edit help in my sandbox. After a couple of weeks it was ready.
*In addition to me, two other editors made substantial contributions in the sandbox. Three(?) others did in the existing page, that may disappear. This is detailed in the PR request.
*I cluelessly submitted the revision as a new article (it was so easy) -- REJECTED.  
*I posted a Teahouse query a few  days ago Wikipedia:Teahouse#feedback on revisions. 
*Then I posted a message in Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Medicine#Monomelic_amyotrophy.  They have been helpful and user:WhatamIdoing said talk to an administrator about Histmerge.  
*As I blundered through the Labyrinths of Inner Wikipedia I posted messages and queries in several locations.
*The wordy Peer Review drama version is Wikipedia:Peer_review/Monomelic_amyotrophy/archive1
I want to correctly transplant the revision from my sandbox.  I read the Wikipedia:Administrators' guide/Fixing cut-and-paste moves. BE BOLD does not apply -- I am being CAUTIOUS.  Thank you for your help. GeeBee60 (talk) 00:43, 27 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  History merge (Monomelic amyotrophy) 

message: *Who does history merging except me? Some help would be welcome when the job becomes high-volume. See Wikipedia:Requests for history merge. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 12:13, 24 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I think you shouldn't be the only one that does history merges, and that there should be more people to help out. Is there a way to request for extra help? --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 01:22, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

text: G'day, what's up? Regards, AustralianRupert (talk) 06:18, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: *I do history merges when I come across them while working in Draft space, but I don't usually check the list  here because Anthony is so efficient and the backlogs elsewhere are huge.  However, everyone needs a day off now and then!   and , edit summaries are another way to get help; I have the project page on my watchlist, and there are likely others who do as well. At UAA if there's a backlog editors add to their edit summaries "27 more to do" or "big backlog today" or something like that. It takes less time than posting on a noticeboard and is more targeted, and may draw in help on busy days.—Anne Delong (talk) 14:20, 4 January 2017 (UTC)

text: *Well, there are about 400 drafts waiting for review at AfC. There are many items listed at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Requests for closure. There are 14,000 unreviewed pages at the New Page Patrol. Some admin items are in Category:Administrative backlog and some are mentioned at the top of WP:AN.—Anne Delong (talk) 17:18, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: I see that asking for more help hasn't worked. What do you think would work better? (Note: I'm not an administrator). --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:05, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

text:  Another backlog that would be most needed to go through would be the :Category:Possible_cut-and-paste_moves while keeping an eye on the other histmerges. You don't need to apologize to me  because you haven't done anything wrong. I'm glad that others are volunteering to help when needed and that was what you wanted in the first place :) --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 19:36, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: MrLinkinPark333, I noticed that backlog myself this morning and cleared one that just needed some merge templates on the talk pages.  I'll try to work on it from time to time.—Anne Delong (talk) 20:26, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
replies: text:  Awesome. One more backlog that's being worked one. --MrLinkinPark333 (talk) 21:01, 19 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who does history merging? 

message: The page currently says   However, in practice, it seems that simple two-page history merges are listed here as well; there are also plenty of requests tagged "(asked for by )" that could have started here.  What is the expected practice? power~enwiki (π, ν) 03:29, 24 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two-page history merge requests 

message: The documentation for  says in complex cases to "leave a description of the problem under the "List of cut-and-page moves to be redone properly" section" here. There's no such section; should that be "New requests" instead? It also describes  as 'this speedy delete tag'. In the case of Project Harvest Moon there are two articles now and afterwards there should still be two, just with different histories. That makes me wonder if the template is the wrong way to request it (even with a ). WP:Requests for history merge only mentions the template as an option. What's the preferred way to go about this? › Mortee talk 16:02, 28 August 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I decided to go ahead with using the template - request . I hope that's right. Still wonder if the documentation could be a little clearer. It also says "details - if present, will add the text This is a complex history merge request and a collapsed show/hide box listing the details." Happily, that's not true. It adds "The requestor left this comment:". I could change that bit myself, but I'm not comfortable changing documentation for a process I'm not more familiar with, at least not without checking first. › Mortee talk 16:02, 30 August 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template documentation out of date? 

message: *People or bots have started sending big batches of history-merge requests. Currently :Category:Candidates for history merging contains 20 requests which all have arrived overnight (by British time). Who apart from me does history-merging? Anthony Appleyard (talk) 07:02, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I do it occasionally when noticing a need. I don't use the category. DferDaisy made many recent requests.  Users are allowed to copy-paste their own sandboxes to articles per WP:NOATT if there are no other substantial contributors. This is a common practice and does not require history merge. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:15, 19 November 2018 (UTC)

text: Their sandbox history may have revisions they do not want in the article history so I would advice against history merge without a user request. PrimeHunter (talk) 12:21, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I was following the instructions at WP:STALE: "if an actual draft version of a copy-pasted article, redirect or request a history merge". You could change the instruction to remove the "or" option. DferDaisy (talk) 23:38, 19 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I have specified which option to choose: "if an actual draft version of a copy-pasted article, redirect if it was copied by the sole contributor, otherwise request a history merge". PrimeHunter (talk) 00:41, 20 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help would be useful 

message: Hi. I've created the article for a movie called Reversing Roe. However, another user had "created" it before as a redirect and now the article does not appear on my list of articles created. Is it possible to make it appear on my list of articles created? Regards.--SirEdimon (talk) 20:09, 6 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Reversing Roe 

message: Beginning by pinging editors I previously raised this concern with: , , 
It has caught my attention that there are various IPs making requests to have article histories merged or restored that are tethered to the blocked user User:Winterysteppe.
This IP and This IP made requests through September 2 and September 4 for the edit history merge/restoration of edits made by User:Hayholt, User:Artix Kreiger and User:TheGreenTower. Hayholt and Kreiger were confirmed conencted to Winterysteppe. TheGreenTower was not, but given their reason for being banned and the IP including their edit history with the other confirmed Winterysteppe's, I wouldn't consider it unfair to assume that they are affiliated. However, I also discovered this IP and this IP today that request edits merges/restorations for articles that restored edits made by GreenTower.
This IP and this IP made requests on September 10, 11 and 22 for the edit history merge/restoration of edits made by User:Faromics and user:Motizun, also confirmed socks of Winterysteppe. It's very clear to me it is more than a coincidence and the IP requests being made need to be examined to see if it's Winterysteppe having their sockpuppet account histories restored. Rusted AutoParts 04:52, 30 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blocked user using IPs to request history merges/restorations 

message: I think some aspects of Draft:Najwa Zebian could be used to improve Najwa Zebian. If someone does this, it would be appropriate to acknowledge the earlier draft, but the draft would usually be subject to deletion, so the edit history might not be available in the future. Is history merging appropriate in this situation, or should I edit the newer article and just name the draft creator in the edit summary? Jack N. Stock (talk) 02:47, 30 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to marge any content from the draft to the article. Due to the overlapping history, a history merge cannot be done, so please provide attribution in the edit summary. You can then redirect the draft to the article with a  so that the history is kept. — JJMC89 (T·C) 05:43, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  History merge of earlier draft and more recent article 

message: I'm a bit confused about how to handle this, so I'll try to make it as clear as possible.
* February 2003 — "Smile (The Beach Boys album)" is created 
* December 2005 — "Smile (The Beach Boys album)" page title is moved to "Smile (Brian Wilson album)" 
* January 2007 — "Smile (The Beach Boys album)" is created for a second time.  Most of the content from "Smile (Brian Wilson album)" was split to this new article.
* December 2012 — "Smile (The Beach Boys album)" page title is moved to "The Smile Sessions". 
* April 2013 — "Smile (The Beach Boys album)" is created for a third time. Most of the content from "The Smile Sessions" was split to this new article. 
From what I can tell, it seems like the first (or only?) step to untangling this would be to merge everything prior to this diff into the history of Smile (Beach Boys album). Is this correct? --ili (talk) 14:15, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Need help untangling article histories ([[Smile (Beach Boys album)]] / [[The Smile Sessions]]) 

message: I'm not sure if I should list this on the Project page; guessing not. Here's the situation: we're nearly done tidying up a draft page, and in a short while we intend to replace the article Roman diocese in a TNT operation with this draft. So we are not yet in a situation where a HISTMERGE is necessary, and we're trying to work out the best strategy now, ahead of time, to avoid complicated disentanglement procedures afterward. What would be most helpful, is if you could give feedback at the discussion at Talk:Roman diocese#HISTMERGE issue. (I previously listed this at WP:AN, and someone there said it would be better to come here with this.) Thanks in advance, Mathglot (talk) 09:04, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Going to reply at the article's talk to avoid decentralizing the discussion. Primefac (talk) 10:47, 26 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advice requested at Talk:Roman diocese 

message: I recently came across the strange case of Music Is the Weapon and Lazerism. There looked to be a string of moves around 4 April of this year and then a clear cut-and-paste on 30 September. Page history shows that in April 2020, this revision of Lazerism is a copy-pasted version of this revision of Music Is the Weapon, so I think that's also a cut-and-paste. The September move is a basic cut-and-paste from Lazerism to Music is the Weapon per the edit summaries. I have next to no experience with histmerges and have no clue what the next step is. Any advice and/or recommended courses of action are appreciated. Thanks, Willsome429 (say hey or see my edits!) 03:57, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Bloody hell, copied and pasted in two different directions. Should be all set. Primefac (talk) 08:56, 9 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Advice requested for [[Music Is the Weapon]] 

message: I am wondering as to the purpose of this page. For one admin, it's a place to put every histmerge performed, whether requested here or via . For others, it's a place to request "odd" histmerges in (what I assume would be) instances where a  is insufficient to deal with the nuance (and/or they don't know that template exists). Personally, I think it should be used only for the latter; Special:Log/merge exists for the completed merges, and there's not really a need to write down the declined/removed  requests on articles because they will be in the article's history. Interested to hear other viewpoints about potentially changing the overall scope of the page (i.e. "archive of requests" or "place to request"). Primefac (talk) 22:51, 1 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with Primefac. I don't think there is a need to log history merges here. Let's just leave it for complex requests. Unless they are requested here, I don't add any that I perform (or decline), even ones that wouldn't be included in the merge log. — JJMC89 (T·C) 08:28, 2 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purpose of this page 

message: User:GiantSnowman history-merged Draft:Alejandro Balde to Alejandro Balde. But User:Primefac declined many same cases. Sawol (talk) 13:49, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: That's because it shouldn't have been done. Special:PermaLink/1042840502 is fundamentally different than the "next" diff Special:PermaLink/1044362415, and so there was no copy/paste pagemove. It's not worth the time and effort to re-split these pages, but they are two separate histories. Primefac (talk) 14:04, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No, it was fine. I declined to merge Alejandro Baldé because that was a parallel history. Also  your 'remove junk' edit also happened to remove a bunch of sourced prose, which I have restored. GiantSnowman 17:47, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Teasing apart which diffs where where before a histmerge occured is difficult, but by my reckoning the sourced prose was only in the draft and never in the article, which again makes me wonder why it was merged because that implies there was never a copy/paste. If I misread that then my bad, but that's why I made my initial statement. You're right in that I probably didn't need to restore the non-prose version (that's on me), I think I was just surprised that you'd choose the "original" over the "copied" version (further leading me to think that it wasn't an actual copy/paste). Primefac (talk) 17:54, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I support User:GiantSnowman and User:Anthony Appleyard. User:Anthony Appleyard have delayed same case, and then User:Primefac declined. I hope User:Primefac will rest from history-merging. Sawol (talk) 18:01, 16 September 2021 (UTC)

text: In fairness to you Primefac I should have cleaned top after performing the merge, which I usually do. GiantSnowman 18:02, 16 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dogmatic [[User:Primefac]]