Talk:Nissan Skyline GT-R

message: The article states that GT-R is abbreviated for "Gran Turismo Racer, with the word Racer being separated to enhance the performance version" Is this what Nissan claim it to be or is this just an assumption? - Ajax 12:08PM 4th April 2007 (GTM)
I don't believe that this is correct, because some very early performance Skyline models were labeled GT-B.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.5.160.3 (talk) 19:38, August 24, 2007 (UTC) 
It is referred to that GT_B was meant for GT Berlinetta this is not true as the Prince Skyline GT was marketed as the Prince A200 GT. There was the "B" version for the hi performance version and "A" version for the normal road version. There was also a Prince B200 from where the engine for the A200 came from. The "B" had no more meaning than to differentiate it from the "A" model, that is simply "B" or "A". The only visible external difference in the A and B model was the colour of the GT side badge. There was visible difference internally and under the bonnet  
Les228  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Les228 (talk • contribs) 00:22, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: GT-R

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some of the sections on this page look like they've been put through a translator. resulting in a horrible, barely understandable mess.
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Don't worry, fixed parts of it last night. Took care of the horribly garbled KPGC110 section --yummyfire 
Need to replace first image in title, Its not a GTR. Car pictured is an R33 GTS-t.. Have to get a nice R34 GTR pic in there me thinks! :p
:Can use the R-34 GT-R M Spec Nur pic that I put in the main Skyline article. Or can find another pic of that car in my photos :) I do feel it would be appropriate as the last production version of the GT-R thus far. (Since the new GT-R is not in production yet) I can also provide a pic of the of the back end of the car, that has both the skyline and GT-R logo, which also seems appropriate. --Preveen 12:52, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not necessarily true, you can find used models for $50,000 or less even. It's not common, but they are available. And R32 you can find in Canada for $10,000. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 68.223.201.91 (talk) 22:29, 2 April 2007 (UTC)

text: The new price in Japan while the R34 was still in production stuck around JPY 4.5 million, which is about US$40,000.  Similar to the Toyota Supra in the US market, though, since the end of production used-market prices have held extremely high.  In the UK the R34 GT-R was marketed right around £50,000. — AKADriver ☎ 14:48, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: LHD Conversion has nothign to do with the outrageous price. That is the price you pay due to market forces and importation costs. Well that's very expensive for what it is. I think I'd go with a Porsche from that era rather than a Skyline. CJ DUB 17:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: ??

message: Can we please keep the Modification section limited to general information,  rather than an info-dump for someones personal opinion.   Someone made a huge 'Stage-1 Tuning Guide'.  Alot of that information was wrong,  but that is not for me or anyone to argue, because that kind of information doesnt belong here in the first place.
144.139.5.144 11:23, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The "Modification" section is utterly juvenile as a whole. Any vehicle can be modified to any extent and there are countless other cars out there with significantly broader aftermarket and enthusiast support.--Setsunakute (talk) 08:09, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modification 

message: I've reverted the edits by 68.64.55.74 to the last version by me. The added content was unrefernced, unencyclopedic and linkspam. Zunaid 09:26, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  revert 

message: Quoting this bit "the 1989- GT-Rs remained (relatively) cheap. Although unconfirmed, it is even rumoured that they were sold at a loss. Although strange today, this cavalier attitude to marketing was common among Japanese car manufacturers of the late 1980s and early 1990s."
If that was true, then why Nissan went ahead and rather then just stopping at 5000 they were required to by the FIA, they went on to build 43,000 of them? In the UK, they were sold when grey imported and new at £35,000. I will be placing a . mark thereWillirennen 16.00 11 May 2006
:That's obviously false, with a but - just about everything Nissan sold in the '90s was "at a loss" as the company was hemmoraging cash.  It's quite possible that even selling 43000 units didn't cover R&D costs, but then just about every subsequent Nissan product benefited from the GT-R development program. — AKADriver ☎ 14:48, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No that information isn't false.  the R32 skyline cost Nissan close to 6.5 million yen to produce each car.  they were sold for around 4.5 million Yen each.  i found that information in a hard-cover book released distributed by Nissan themselves.  i will try to find the ISBN number of the book, so it can be referenced.  until then i will leave it out of the article.  Impreziv 04:39, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  re: History of the brand 

message: Could someone please put in a paragraph or two about its monumental success at the Nurburgring?
Due to the development of the GTR R34 as is stated in the artical, there is a Nissan Skyline GTR R34 VspecII Nür. Named after the Nurburgring race track in Germany. The engine was improved and based on the N1 RB26DETT, Iam guessing with N1 or upgraded ballbearing Twin Turbos and engine parts. I believe the NISMO Z-Tune Z1 and Z2 was taken to Nurburgring for testing and developed aswell. Someone can help me out here
-Ajax 9 March 2007 1:26PM
It doesn't mention, however, that the reason there is a Nurburgring special is because the R34 holds the record for fastest time around by a production car.
Probably because it's not true, if the Nordschleife fastest lap times page is to be half-way believed. Scott Paeth 20:46, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amazing achievment 

message: I believe that the standard GTR Twin Turbos produce 10 Psi (0.7 Bar) of Boost. The GTRs come standard with a boost gauge and it reads +7 at the highest point of the gauge. Even after installing an aftermarket Boost gauge its reads it quite accuratly and the pointer goes up to 0.7 Bar. -Ajax
Actually, the Skyline GT-R measures boost pressure in Torr! Well, at least my R32 does, anyways. -TBarb
Whats "Torr" TBarb? -Ajax
1 torr = 0.0193367747 pounds per square inch- Alain
It's a non-SI measurement of pressure based on the ability to move a millimetre of mercury which is named after the abbreviated name of Italian scientist Evangelista Torricelli, which is why the units on the guage are in Torr (or "mmHg"). The GT-R either maxes at 7 or 0.7 Torr of boost pressure. 0.7 seems more realistic, because 450 PSI is just insane with the stock turbochargers! -TBarb
I see...yeah my stock and HKS Boost Gauge have that "mmHg" on it too, but I know all the numbers are based on Bar as well.
BTW 450 PSI GTR = we could probley fly to the moon and back! Or win just about every race we enter. HaHa!! -Ajax
:actually,  the stock boost pressure is 7psi (0.5bar) on the stock R32 R33 and R34 GTR models.  the boost gauge does read in mmHg,  but the needle shouldnt go above 5 mmHg.  if it goes up to 7 mmHg, then the previous owner (or yourself) has removed the brass boost restricter in the boost solenoid.  its an easy mod to raise you boost.   - impreziv
Hmmm... I guess that would explain it, then. -TBarb
Really?!...I see, well I thought the standard boost gauge reads up to 0.7 and the needle should go up that far, I thought it was normal. Ha! learn something new! -Ajax
By the way TBarb, does the Boost level vary from say Jap Spec and Aus Spec GTRs? eg. is the Jap Spec boost level more than the Aus Spec? -Ajax
: no the Jap-spec and Aus-spec ones are the same.  to my knowledge the only thing that was different was the radio/cassette unit, and the english writing in the owners manual (along with safety and compliancy stickers/stamps on the chassis, confirming australian compliancy) Impreziv 04:45, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is false. The indicators are clearly on the fenders behind both wheel arches. They are above the historic GT-R badge on both sides.--Setsunakute (talk) 08:05, 9 December 2007 (UTC)

text: There are no side indicators on the fenders of the BNR32. I suspected you were talking about the newer generations.--Setsunakute (talk) 04:03, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Turbo Chargers 

message: In light of my comments above, I'd like to start a section here where we can post just the web links to reliable sources for the purpose of writing this article in a neutral and well-referenced way. Reliable sources would be:
* Official Nissan and Nismo websites and press releases, but only for factual information. Such information should carry a footnote saying that it is manufacturer's own claims.
* Reviews by well-respected sources, preferably internationally available sources, such as car magazines, etc.
* Modification specs by well-respected car modification and tuning sources
* Results in various sanctioned and well-respected racing series
* Bias and suggestion of bias must be avoided, so sources which are specific to Japanese cars or of Japanese origin should generally be avoided.
Basically anything other than these can and probably should be considered unreliable and/or fancruft. Just a note from the Wikipedia article on verifiability:
# Articles should contain only material that has been published by reputable sources.
# Editors adding new material to an article should cite a reputable source, or it may be removed by any editor.
# The obligation to provide a reputable source lies with the editors wishing to INCLUDE the material, NOT on those seeking to remove it.
Examples (using entirely made up names, please remove these once you start adding REAL references):
* Official Nissan Skyline GT-R page
* Official Nismo Z-tune page
* SomeWebSite's review of the R33 Skyline
* CarTuner's modified 500 bhp Skyline R34 (caveat: you have to demonstrate that CarTuner is a well-respected source, and that a 500 hp skyline is somehow significant i.e. is it the MOST powerful Skyline? Or are there hundreds of 500 hp Skylines out there, in which case it is hardly worth mentioning.)
Zunaid 13:33, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not really. Many petrol-heads have hit the 1000hp mark with Skylines ([link]). yandman 09:59, 17 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: References

message: handling equal or superior to that of European icons like the Porsche 911 and the Ferrari Testarossa,
right.... —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jcforge (talk • contribs) 13:34, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: An encyclopedia needs sources, not your experience in driving what is ultimately a fairly mediocre "fanboy" car!123.255.55.133 12:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What the...

message: Someone who's in the know should make it clear in the article which versions of the GT-R were sold in which markets. Were all GT-Rs right-hand-drive? Were they sold in, say, Great Britain? The article should at least point the reader in the right direction... Scott Paeth 20:49, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm afraid not. As I understand it, 80 R34 GTRs were made for the UK market. These 'UK Spec' machines were RHD but featured leather upholstery. siranui  —The preceding  signed but undated. 
No - Australia received a homolgation run of 200 gtr's. As far as I know, thats it though (and they are ALL RHD.)
Yes I know they were sold in Australia, I was refering to Scott Paeth question. 
Ajax 2nd July 2007 3:45PM
Imports to the UK market were done by private contract with a British Nissan dealer in very, very limited quantities in the early to mid-90s.--Setsunakute (talk) 07:59, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Markets 

message: I removed a section stating that the ATCC regs were changed because of the success of the GT-R at Bathurst. This is false information, there were many other contributing factors that brought upon the change to the V8 Supercar format. 210.49.66.235 11:24, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  ATCC Regs 

message: shouldn't there be a section on the extreme tunability of the last Skyline? 132.205.44.5 (talk) 05:55, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  tunability 

message: "The KPGC10's successor, the , "
The what?--Fluence (talk) 23:06, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: The...

message: Changed some things around, took some of the sentences from the article and added it to the introduction. I also added some sources.
I was surprised that the intro was very short, since other car articles are bigger but the Skyline GT-R has much more history and only a small sentence was written in the introduction. 
I made sure there was no repeats as well, if there is please feel free to change it. And don't be afraid to change some things around guys, I probably made some mistakes maybe someone car re-word it better than I can; so if you don't like what I did, feel free to edit. Gouryella (talk) 09:23, 8 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expanded the article. 

message: Sounds like it came out of a Nissan brochure. Where are the records of other manufacturers "realizing they couldn't keep up" and "thus withdrawing" etc ... no citations at all. Also citations are needed for the "wave of protests" .. "from European manufacturers" etc... please don't remove the tag until these issues are resolved. 123.255.23.7 (talk) 09:19, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Motorsport section 

message: "This variant of the Skyline GT-R produced approximately 500HP, and capable of around 200 mph. Without the 500 HP limiter, the car has 700HP and capable of around 240+mph."  
Since the heavenly Mclaren F1 can only do 241mph from 627HP, who says this is true?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.173.27.238 (talk) 00:35, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pennzoil NISMO GT-R 

message: Are we sure they didn't have ABS?  I'm asking because I've seen pictures of both an R33 V-Spec N1 and an R34 V-Spec N1, and both vehicles had ABS actuators/modulators under their hoods. -67.176.175.142 (talk) 17:18, 8 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  V-Spec N1 models 

message: I Google-searched the images of the all Nissan Skyline GT-Rs registered in Poland, but I couldn't find any pictures of all Polish-registered Skylines.
Can anyone tell me "how many JDM Skyline GT-Rs in Poland, imported from the UK?"  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Kiel457 (talk • contribs) 16:52, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Those were unofficial private imports. It is unlikely that you will ever find a reliable number.  Stepho  talk  23:06, 21 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  How many Nissan Skyline GT-Rs registered in Poland (imported from the UK) 

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thread_title: Assessment comment

message: Hi editors. I was playing Gran Turismo 4 today and I decided to look for some car facts. However, I saw that I had skylines R31 generations in the game. So I was wondering if they existed at all. I'd like you guys to dig deeper into this. I was pretty sure I saw some R31 GTR models as well
:There was a R31 GTS-R but not a GT-R. Toasted Meter (talk) 21:14, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Isn't this missing a one generation? 

message: I'm getting conflicting reports about the top speed of the R34 GTR Z Tune. The article says 203mph at the moment, and as does The Drive and Auto Motor Und Sport, but Road And Track is saying its electrically governed to 155mph, and EVO says it has an estimated 180mph top speed. I'm no expert on these, so anyone here able to weigh in? TKOIII (talk) 20:35, 14 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  R34 GT-R Z Tune Top speed