Talk:Shimano

message: This addition sounds intriguing, but it's not of a Neutral point of view. Please see the NPOV tutorial for pointers on moving it toward NPOV. --Christopherlin 21:59, 30 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: As somebody of some experience in cycling (being that I'm a profesional cyclist) I'd say the point of that section is rather accurate. For instance dura ace (the top level groupo and hence the first to get new developements) are frequently incompatibily with any other dura ace group set other than of course that year's model. Although admittedly this section does have a very slight bias towards shimano, but that is no surprise because it is an article about shimano. So I'd say that very small amount it ok, just like the article on Romans would be very slightly biased towards them. Mathmo 06:32, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm... on re-reading this, I see no overall bias in that section. And I'd be of mind to insert it back in, however I'll leave others a chance to say something first about this. Although if you are being very picky you could see bias in small sections overall it is of a satisfactory fair, balanced, and neutral level of writing. That it isn't to say it is perfect, nothing here is. But it is an excellent start that is worthy of being here for others to build upon. Mathmo06:36, 22 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Neutral point of view

message: I've removed Biopace as a "Shimano innovation". I'm afraid it wasn't. It is as old as the 19th century and has been abandoned as often as it has been reintroduced. Les woodland (talk) 13:12, 27 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've put it back in. Elliptical/oval chain rings had been tried before, [Biopace] were not conventional ellipticals, they were essentially the opposite, hence an innovation. Well, they were at least enough of an innovation to be patentable. The Sheldon Brown page linked from the Biopace article describes this well. --Philbarker (talk) 10:14, 28 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Biopace

message: Are each of the lists of groupsets in descending order of quality. It seams that way but it does not specify, and I am not familiar with all of them. If someone knows can you state that they are either in order or ‘in no particular order’. Thanks, --Broecher (talk) 03:05, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Groupsets 

message: How can the revenue for a public corporation be undisclosed? I though by law that type of information has to be disclosed? Allyn (talk) 03:45, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Look here.  Not sure how to incorporate this info:  http://www.shimano.com/publish/content/global_corp/en/us/index/financial_information/financial_results.download.-mainParsys-0002-downloadFile.html/Summary%20of%20Financial%20Results%20FY2009-1H.pdf Mollynet (talk) 22:35, 16 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Undisclosed Revenue for Public Corporation 

message: The following section is actually flatly against what happened. Shimano introduced innovations at their high end group and trickled them down to the lower groups. Also, they might be a bit cheaper than Campagnolo, they certainly didn't wage a price war n the smaller german/french companies. They simply out-innovated them. Also, the components were actually of higher quality than the French/German equivalents.
"During this period, in contrast to the near-universal marketing technique of introducing innovations on the expensive side of the marketplace and relying on consumer demand to emulate early adopters along with economy of scale to bring them into the mass market, Shimano and SunTour (to a lesser extent) introduced new technologies at the lowest end of the bicycle market, using lower cost and often heavier and less durable materials and techniques, only moving them further upmarket if they established themselves in the lower market segments."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Fietser (talk • contribs) 07:45, 20 September 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Sheldon seems to agree that Shimano used to innovate on the low end, but after Positron in the early 1980s, Shimano switched to their current trickle down method. See his description here and here. -AndrewDressel (talk) 01:55, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Negative bias and untrue 

message: What has happend to Shimano STEPS? Why is there no mention of it?
(see http://www.bikeradar.com/news/article/shimano-unveil-new-steps-electric-bike-components-26649/)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 176.6.187.188 (talk) 21:09, 11 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: If you feel it is worthy of inclusion, by all means, go ahead and include it. -AndrewDressel (talk) 01:56, 12 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shimano STEPS 

message: There are no Sora 4600 products on the Shimano website as of August 2013.  Therefore, I am removing from the table the mention that they were introduced in 2011.  If I am wrong, please document this.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Coemgenv (talk • contribs) 03:28, 27 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sora 4600 gruppo 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: can someone fix so that it is pulled into the infobox?--So9q (talk) 08:46, 24 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Updated total revenue is now available from Wikidata 

message: Hi, I analyzed 647 mass produced road bikes from dozens of brands offered in 2023. I found that Shimano components were on 70% of them (SRAM 26.3%, Campagnolo 3.4%, others 0.3%). Maybe it would be nice to add this specific information directly to the article alongside the estimated market share? The info is available here in the Groupset Stats: Shimano and SRAM vs. Everybody Else section: https://www.cyclistshub.com/road-bike-prices-and-weights-statistics/  Minarik Petr (talk) 10:48, 28 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shimano vs. SRAM market share in road cycling