Talk:Shuar

message: The original article was pretty awful.  I replaced it with an article I wrote for Everything2.  As I understand it, I hold the copyright for the Everything2 article, so there should be no problem putting it here on Wikipedia (of course, I claim no copyright for this wikipedia article).  If anyone sees a problem, please let me know, Slrubenstein
:This is original research. The fact that you have published it elsewhere is irrelevant. User:"Indians"
Alas, you are wrong - see this . Slrubenstein   |  Talk 12:57, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Comment

message: I have removed the photo of the tsantsa because it is a fake, that is, it is not a shrunken head made by Shuar (the photo would be appropriate in the article on shrunken heads in general).
I also note that it is not really appropriate for this article to be part of the peru project.  Virtually all Shuar live in Ecuador.  Related, neighboring groups - the Aguaruna and Achuar - do indeed live in Pero, but the should have their own articles as they are different groups. Slrubenstein   |  Talk 12:11, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photo, and Peru Project 

message: If the Shuar used Curare against the Spanish, it was probably that poison which aided them.
67.148.120.101 (talk) 12:40, 7 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Use of Curare 

message: OK, the following passage:
The center of Shuar life was a relatively autonomous household consisting of a man, his wives (usually two), unmarried sons, and daughters. Upon marriage sons would leave their natal households, and would move to the villages of their spouse, a process referred to as matrilocal residence. Men hunted, fought battles and wove garments for their families; women have traditionally been seen as experts in gardening, medicine and culture.[2]
What I don't understand here is why someone would say a man usually had two wives. From the stories I heard while living among the Chiriap, the older generations of Shuar did have multiple wives, but there was no particular number of wives permitted or required of them. The great grandfather of German Chiriap, for example, with whom I have studied, had five wives. His father had multiple partners as a youth and has had several wives, but only lives with one of them now.
Also, I expanded the definitions of gender roles. I felt that men hunting and women gardening was a bit stereotypical, especially for a people with such an intricate social organization. As Perruchón (2003) has pointed out, even the definitions given here are not encompassing. Women can also be warriors. Men obviously are usually uwishin, but I have noticed that the uwishin often go running to the women when they want information about a particular plant.
Clarification would be excellent!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Chaim1221 (talk • contribs) 06:11, 7 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Social organization and contacts with Europeans 

message: The section that talks about the relations between the indigenous people and the State,
reads like a Government/Private Company propaganda.
Even the part about the role played about Missionaries sounds too good to be true, given what is factually know about their role in South America.
There is no mention about the recent mining concessions given to Chinese's firms by the Govt.
Also no mention of the extensive damage that would be detrimental to both the Tribes and the environment.
For reference see:
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jun/02/ecuador-murder-jose-tendetza-el-mirador-mine-project
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a concerned student  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.12.15.59 (talk) 09:00, 3 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shuar and the Ecuadorian State 

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