Talk:Lonely Planet

message: An anon using two IPs has twice put in a POV paragraph saying that Lonely Planet reflects a colonial output. I've reverted it both times, since it lacks sources or any reason for being written, actually. A similar complaint can be made about most travel literature - which might be legitimate thing to have in wikipedia, but not just dumped here. - DavidWBrooks 21:27, 26 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "controversy"  

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replies: text: Would anyone like to upload a new logo that has a fair use rationale?Misterx2000 (talk) 17:06, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Lonelyplanetlogo.png

message: Why does the history section busy itself with a paragraph on LP's presence in Indonesia?
To me that reads as totally irrelevant. I propose to move that to the LP Indonesia page (if it exists) and remove it from the general history of Lonely Planet.85.227.226.174 17:19, 28 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  history of dominating Indonesia?? 

message: Today lonely planets are avaliable in several languages. On the LP homepage you find links to german, french, spanish, italian, chinese and japanese sites. Perhaps there are also other languages offered. In german for example only 38 books are avaliable so far. I believe a small section about other languages would be appropriate. -- 89.61.119.54 14:57, 22 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  other languages 

message: Lonely Planet author Thomas Kohnstamm claimed that he fabricated information in the book, that he never went to one of the countries, Columbia. Is this notable? Shawnc (talk) 06:31, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It's very notable, he's the author/co-author of a dozen LP books. This is still very new, but it should probably have a heading of its own in the article. Probably the biggest scandal ever to hit LP. JdeJ (talk) 07:11, 14 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you read the LP japan for example, and travel there you get the impression that the writer(s) have gone to a different country... --Godal (talk) 11:43, 30 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed!  Having lived and traveled extensively in China for a year, I (and every other person in our group) can tell you that those guides were shite.  The "map" of the city we lived in was a measly 4k bloc that didn't even include all of one of its 6 districts. 67.188.79.209 (talk) 12:16, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  fabrication claim 

message: Has anyone read the history secotion?  It reads like an insimpit version of Shanghai history by the PRC.  It really needs to modified ASAP.... very suprised it hasn't been edited in ages.  - [[User:Aruhnka|aruhnka]01:02, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've cleaned up the History section, which now flows better.Misterx2000 (talk) 07:43, 20 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "chinglish"  

message: I cleaned up this article as best as i could, incorporating most of the comments above. the introuction was completely outdated, and the history section was a mess. i used a radio interview with Tony Wheeler (the founder) for some of teh facts.
Mtl1969 (talk) 19:40, 24 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The entire article requires further revision and updating in May 2014. I think that I have completed the first half of the article as part of this process, and I will move onto the second half over the next week.--Soulparadox (talk) 08:46, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Overall cleanup 

message: apart from teh fact that Wikipedia discourages 'controversies' sections, the paragraph about 'Turkey for Christmas' can hardly be called worthy of an encyclopedia. it concerns one photo, in a single LP publication (a magazine) which is only published in one country (the UK). Apart from that, the 'controversial' article in question talks about how some greek islands are really close to the Turkish coast so an image of a greek island in an article about Turkey should not be controversial. I will leave this a few days and unless anybody objects i will remove it Mtl1969 (talk) 10:02, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with you; kill it. - DavidWBrooks (talk) 15:41, 30 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  done Mtl1969 (talk) 13:00, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  controversies

message: Unsure is this represents a controversy. The book has just been released and press has been limited. The addition of the quote from Max Barry has been added elsewhere and it represents a blurb from the book's cover - clearly marketing material framed as potential controversy so I've deleted it here.
GeorgieFamingo (talk) 13:00, 27 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Paradise Updated 

message: His book was about Brazil, not Colombia.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.28.252.84 (talk) 07:53, 1 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kohnstamm controversy 

message: I think that the claim about being the largest in the world needs a citation. I think it also could do with clarification: in what sense the largest? (annual turnover? number of publications? or one/many of many other possibilities). FrankSier (talk) 11:00, 27 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a fair point and I will conduct research on this matter as part of my revision of the entire article.--Soulparadox (talk) 08:49, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Largest in the world? 

message: Maureen Wheeler states "Wheeler was born in Belfast, Northern Ireland and moved to London at the age 20, where she met her future husband, Tony Wheeler on a park bench in London on 7 October 1970." whereas this article says "He [Tony] met his wife Maureen Wheeler in Sydney in 1973, following a lengthy trip from Turkey, through Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan, to India and Nepal."  Which is correct? -- Chuq (talk) 21:25, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears that this matter has been addressed, through the simplification of the text, and I am now revising the entire article, as it was outdated and sub-standard. I will move onto the Wheelers's pages in due course.--Soulparadox (talk) 08:48, 26 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tony and Maureen Wheeler 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I think that there are a couple of things wrong in the following:
:"In October 2007, the Wheelers and Australian businessman John Singleton, who became a shareholder in 1999, negotiated a put option agreement with BBC Worldwide, the commercial arm of the BBC, resulting in the latter's purchase of a 75% stake in the company, worth an estimated £63 million at the time; the Wheelers retained the other 25%. A put options frees the owner from any obligation to sell a specified amount of an underlying security at a specified price within a specified time, and instead provides the owner with the right to make such a sale"
The put option agreement didn't result in the BBC's purchase of a 75% stake; rather, the sale of a 75% stake was agreed at the same time as a put option agreement on the remaining 25%. This is as per reference 19.
The definition of a put option is wrong: there's no freeing of the owner from any obligation to sell as there would never have been an obligation in the first place. Rather, a put option is the right, but not the obligation, to sell at a certain price. This is as per reference 18.
Unless there any objections here in the next few days, I will correct the text. Zin92 (talk) 05:43, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Changes made. Zin92 (talk) 06:48, 1 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Purchase by BBC Worldwide 

message: Hi there. I posted in here a while back with some suggested amends on behalf of Lonely Planet. I'm a member of the marketing team here in the London office. Fully aware of Wikipedia's COI policies so just wanted to note some things here for the editors of our page to consider to update, further to the above ones already noted in the past. In contrast to my note above, I’ve only added things below that there are online link resources to back up (though, they are on our own website). Any issues with this or questions, we can be contacted via social@lonelyplanet.com. Thanks, Wikipedians - Seb :)
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SIDEBOX COPY
Current text: Parent company: NC2 Media
Correction: Lonely Planet Global, Inc. 
Source: https://www.lonelyplanet.com/legal/privacy-policy/
Current text: Publication types: Books, apps, online community
Correction: We also now have a video platform on the site and a US magazine (as mentioned in article already, but a source has been provided to further illustrate this).
Source: https://www.lonelyplanet.com/video, https://www.lonelyplanet.com/usmagazine
  
MAIN BODY COPY
Current text: As of 2014, Lonely Planet's largest office is located in Footscray, a suburb of Melbourne, Australia
Correction: The Melbourne office is now located in a different suburb of Melbourne, in Carlton. 
Source: https://www.lonelyplanet.com/contact
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195.11.179.106 (talk) 14:30, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Regards,  spintendo  17:36, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: More suggested amends from Lonely Planet

message: #  The Carlton office was added, replacing the mention of the Footscray office.
#  Video and print magazine were added to the infobox's publication type parameter.
#  The infobox's parent company parameter was not updated. Text in the lead section of the article states that NC2 Media is the parent organization. A request to alter this text in the lead has not been made; thus, changing the parent organization parameter in the infobox alone would have created a contradiction within the article. For this proposal to be approved, a request must be submitted to have both instances in the article changed, along with references which verify this change.
:Regards,  spintendo  17:36, 13 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 13-JUL-2018

message: Per the last comment/edit, thanks for updating some of that which was requested. This is a follow-up request to update both the infobox copy AND first sentence of the article to reflect the correct, current parent company of Lonely Planet and other entities within the group, which is 'Lonely Planet Global, Inc.' (based in Wyoming, USA). Further details on this are noted in our latest privacy policy, here: https://www.lonelyplanet.com/legal/privacy-policy/. Thanks! - Seb (Lonely Planet)
195.11.179.106 (talk) 09:53, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Follow-up suggested amend from Lonely Planet

message: *   The parent company parameter was updated.
*   The request that the first sentence in the article be "changed to reflect the correct, current parent company of Lonely Planet and other entities within the group" was partially implemented, in that the prior information on NC2 Media was removed. However, a replacement sentence was not inserted, because no such verbatim proposal for how this sentence should be worded was submitted. 
Additional actions were performed during this edit:
*The lead section contained an inordinate focus on the company's offices, listing the size of the Australia office and the significance of the US office in terms of its position within the US division, details which are not needed in the lead section on the parent company. These have been omitted.
*The article's problems with over-quotation and its excessively-exampled narrative of recent company history — including details on mergers and acquisitions described in 1,868 words covering more than 4 separate sections — have both been highlighted with maintenance templates. These should help draw the attention of editors to these issues in order that they may be fixed and the article improved.
The COI editor should feel free to offer further suggestions on how to improve the article, and may do so here on the talk page at their earliest convenience. Regards,  spintendo  13:38, 16 July 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply 16-JUL-2018

message: Should the disambiguation clause of this article also link Rogue planet? I'm not a native speaker of English and came here looking for the topic of that article, because it seemed like an obvious title for what I wanted to know. Some more searching was then needed to find the other article. -- 194.39.218.10 (talk) 13:24, 30 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link [[Rogue planet]]? 

message: I am a employee at Lonely Planet.
Recently I made a small edit to the infobox to reflect that headquarters of Lonely Planet is now Fort Mill, South Carolina. Lonely Planet's parent Red Ventures are based there.
Further to this, Lonely Planet have updated their logo as of December 6 2021, which is now live on its website.
I have been unable to upload the logo myself to this point without triggering several restriction notices on filename and type of image.
I would welcome suggestions on how to make this change.  
Tomhalltravel (talk) 11:56, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested logo update from Lonely Planet