Talk:Lord Privy Seal

message: Anecdote: during World War II, Winston Churchill was on the toilet when someone told him (presumably by shouting through the door) that the Lord Privy Seal wished to see him. Churchill's response: "Tell the Lord Privy Seal that I am sealed to my privy, and can only deal with one shit at a time." — Franey 13:17, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Very droll. I am just about to delete this nugget from the article, as it is not sourced. -- Hoary 02:35, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Anecdote

message: I do not think this belongs --Blue Tie (talk) 04:05, 25 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: NB, the phrase was used by Richard Dawkins in describing Expelled (film) on his website. AlmostReadytoFly (talk) 11:03, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Moving the following from article

message: The term "Lord Privy Seal" (as in "not bad, but it's a bit Lord Privy Seal") is used in the British television industry as shorthand for associating pictures too closely and literally with every element of the accompanying spoken script. The origin is a TV comedy sketch in The Frost Report taking the practice to an extreme, which backed a "news report" mention of the Lord Privy Seal with images, in quick succession, of a lord, an outdoor toilet, and a seal balancing a ball on its nose.
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File:Seehund im Zirkus.JPG|Seal
:NB, the phrase was used by Richard Dawkins in describing Expelled (film) on his website. AlmostReadytoFly (talk) 11:03, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Television industry term

message: On pages 235-6 of the Bobbs-Merrill edition of Melbourne, in the chapter "After Reform", the author refers to Lord John Russell as the Privy Seal.  He is not listed in the article, and he is not listed in Wikipedia's "Lord John Russell" page.  Since Melbourne is one of the finest and best well-researched biographies to have been written, and which made the Modern Library's best 100 nonfiction list, then I think that this may be an oversight on the part of Wikipedia editors.bruvensky (talk) 05:04, 8 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that this is not an oversight, but an error on Cecil's part (such errors will appear in virtually any historical work, no matter how good otherwise).  If Cecil was talking about the period around the passage of the Reform Act, Russell held the position of Paymaster of the Forces, which he held during Grey's ministry and Melbourne's first ministry.  In Melbourne's second ministry, Russell was Home Secretary and then Colonial Secretary.  Russell was never Lord Privy Seal, and I doubt that if you looked at a biography of Russell, rather than a biography of someone else in which Russell appears tangentially, you'd find any reference to this claim. 70.42.157.5 (talk) 16:34, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lord John Russell, Privy Seal? 

message: Is there any actual justification for treating Lords Privy Seal before 1707 as holding a different office from Lords Privy Seal afterwards?  The Privy Seal is the monarch's personal seal, not a state seal.  Wouldn't it make more sense to split it by monarch? 70.42.157.5 (talk) 16:25, 19 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  English/British 

message: I have extensively reformatted the list of early office holders. Lords Privy are now split by monarch as was previously suggested, details such as other offices held and terms of office have been clearly separated. Other offices and titles not held during tenure have been remove. Where known, Birth–Death has been included. The existing list contained several instances where the office was said to be held In Commission, however I can't seem to find any sources to support this being the case. A quick Google search, a search on the London Gazette, and the compendium book I frequently use have turned up nothing. I have taken these out, but if sources support it then it should be reinstated. I would assume that for some of these there was a prolonged vacancy, or several people exercised the duties of Lord Privy Seal without formal appointment. ToastButterToast (talk) 14:23, 11 September 2017 (UTC)
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