Talk:Ruby McCollum

message: This article is a mess and needs a thorough cleanup; it also appears not to adhere to WP:NPOV and one of the editors may have a conflict of interest. This is being discussed at WP:Editor assistance/Requests#dispute about Ruby McCollum listing. Jezhotwells (talk) 18:25, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  State of article 

message: I don't have a stake in this, except improving the article. I had many questions and believed that basic facts needed to be included. Also, new works are being both published and released as documentary films about McCollum and the case - and the many silences which society of the time tried to impose on the facts. So I'm adding some of those and trying to consult more of the sources.Parkwells (talk) 20:57, 18 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Updates and editing

message: The article does not make it clear how this was done. Racist custom, blackmail over subjects criminality, drug influence? Information should be properly sourced and put in the article. 2A00:23C5:E097:5D00:5539:1A63:598F:D24F (talk) 05:29, 2 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Forced Child

message: There have been five books written about the murder of Dr. Leroy Adams in Live Oak, Florida by the wife of "Bolita" Sam; Mrs. Ruby McCollum. One was written by an individual who said he lived in the area; but what he did not say was that he was hardly out of diapers at the time.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.174.62.98 (talk • contribs) 00:18, 22 November 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: This is C. Arthur Ellis, Jr., Ph.D., the person this commentator states was "barely out of diapers." He is indeed sorely wrong and needs to have his facts straight. In spite of his assaults, I have never exonerated Ruby McCollum, and agree that she was a dope addict. What I disagree with is that she shot Dr. Adams over drugs. She shot him because he would not abort her second child by him. The arrogance of this writer is amazing, and I don't know of any research that he has done, or anything that he has written other than this post. He lists himself as having a B.A., but I am really am puzzled about how this qualifies him for much of anything, other than being a critic about something of which he has little to no knowledge. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.85.122.230 (talk • contribs) 23:18, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

text: Ellis here again. What Deputy Gray's son omits is that Ruby McCollum addresses that his father was on her payroll. He cannot accept his father's corruption. This is documented in the trial testimony. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.85.122.230 (talk • contribs) 23:30, 12 December 2015 (UTC)

text: Ellis here again. The son of Deputy of Gray wants it that his father and the sheriff's department save McCollum's live out of altruism. In fact, they fear for their reputations and being revealed for accepting brnbes.
The Live Oak City Police Department at the time did little to nothing to assist in what transpired. Everyone wanted Ruby McCollum dead. Ruby McCollum was guilty of premeditated murder and had she been a man she would have been executed; instead she was committed to an asylum, and then released. Money bought Ruby McCollum and kept her from being justly executed. It is a shame the authors of the books in question choose to praise a herion addict and murderer and slander the names of honest law officers. The authors and their books are a disgrace to the people of Live Oak. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.174.62.98 (talk • contribs) 00:18, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

text: C. Arthur Ellis, Jr. here again. This Gray person who wrote this article is, I believe, the son of Deputy Gray, who was bribed by the McCollums. He at first acknowledges the corruption of the police and then states that there were "honest law officers." He can't have it both ways. The fact is that his father and most of Live Oak's law enforcement was on the McCollum payroll. And I, for one, have never declared that McCollum was an innocent victim. I might also point out that Adams' assisted McCollum in being an addict, so this man is blaming the victim and praising his corrupt father, who accepted bribes. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.85.122.230 (talk) 04:25, 13 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ruby McCollum Murderess of Live Oak, Florida - THE UNTOLD TRUTH 

message: I have added a "Contradict" tag, as the article claims at the beginning that Blacks could vote in America, but not serve on juries, yet claims in the "Background" section, and again in the "First Trial" section, that Blacks could not serve on juries because they couldn't vote. There are also no sources for any of these claims: That Blacks could vote, could not vote, or that they couldn't serve on juries. Harry Sibelius (talk) 04:41, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction 

message: I noticed that some of the edits to this page were made by 72.187.21.116. This user seems to have also identified himself as  C. Arthur Ellis, Jr., Ph.D., who has previously identified himself on this talk-page as 69.85.122.230, as well as Artellis1000. Writing about an edit of the Ruby McCollum article on 00:10, 07 February 2008, that: "I have removed portions of this page that were contributed by me since I am not allowed to list my book as a reference. You may not repost my contribution without giving credit to my work," referring to the works by Ellis cited in this article.
Though I may be mistaken, It seems that Mr. Ellis removed sources that he previously had added that used his own books. This is commendable, at least in that I believe it accords Wikipedia's rules. I was hoping, however, that since Mr. Ellis is active on Wikipedia, and his book is still used as a source in the Ruby McCollum article, that he would have some additional sources to back up certain claims in this article. Harry Sibelius (talk) 07:55, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:   C. Arthur Ellis, Jr., Ph.D., Artellis1000, 72.187.21.116,  69.85.122.230, and Ellis' book