Talk:Microsoft Equation Editor

message: From usage and numerous statements from Murray Sargent et al. it looks rather like the Office 2007 Math editing capabilities are no longer based on the legacy Equation Editor. Neither the old interface nor the old layout engine are present anymore. This does (in my opinion) strongly suggest that the old code isn't used here. --Joey 23:03, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
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message: Microsoft Equation Editor isn't included in all packages, it is included with Microsoft Word only. Excel already allows to you to simple things, and macros programming so Microsoft doesn't care about it. PowerPoint & Publisher usually doesn't use it. --Ramu50 (talk) 23:33, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  mistakes 

message: I read this:
Its feature set has not changed significantly since its introduction in Word for Windows, version 2.0.
and I do not agree. I think, especially the latest step from office 2003 to office 2007 was a very large one. Linear input was not supported before, the output quality has been improved dramatically (e.g. we have an inline / block equation difference and the integral symbol looks less like ∫ than \int) and more symbols are available, e.g. sets like \mathbb{N}. Unless there are official sources from Microsoft or DesignScience, I think this should be changed immediately. --87.172.244.232 (talk) 13:41, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  sources missing 

message: is it just me, or is the picture showing the new o2k7 "equation builder" while the article is about the obsolete "equation editor" ?  Am I correct in making the distinction?  58.246.141.67 (talk) 13:11, 11 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  misrepresentation in the image? 

message: A very common problem with equations in docx files using Equation Editor is that the equations don't print in many installations. There is a solution which I've applied successfully but forgot and can't find. It should probably be mentioned here since it's so prevalent that many colleagues don't use the new equation editor - they replace it with the old one, but with a certain foreign font (Thai or something Asian) it seems it clears up.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 129.115.13.21 (talk) 15:39, 23 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  bugs and workarounds 

message: The article was ambiguous about what this article was about: either the old editor made by Design Science, or all equation editing capabilities in Office, including the new editor. Since the term "Microsoft Equation Editor" exclusively means the old editor, I went ahead and deleted stuff about the new system. It should still be mentioned somewhere, but not in this article. Here is the material I deleted:
For Microsoft Office 2007, Equation Editor is included as is, however some Office 2007 applications also include a reengineered equation editor with support for a TeX-like linear input/edit language called "Office Math Markup Language" (Office MathML or OMML) in addition to its WYSIWYG interface. In Microsoft Office 2010 the new equation editing system is used throughout all Microsoft Office applications, and The revised equation editor is built into the document-editing part of the interface rather than being operated through a separate dialog and being treated as an OLE object in the document. Unicode Plain Text Encoding of Mathematics is also supported.Unicode Nearly Plain-Text Encoding of Mathematics: Murray Sargent - Microsoft Corporation Office Math Markup Language (OMML) is a mathematical markup language embedded in WordProcessingML, with intrinsic support for including word processing markup like revision markings, footnotes, comments, images and elaborate formatting and styles. Equation number management is also possible using macros.
By the way, this article is quite short, and rightly so: there's not much to say about it. So maybe it would be a good idea to merge this (with redirect) into MathType? Quietbritishjim (talk) 02:11, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  MathType-derived equation editor vs. the new editor built into Office 

message: The OMML format is different from the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) MathML recommendation. Academic publishers have noted that the rendering of equations as graphics in .DOCX files impairs its usability for scholarly publishing as the conversion to and from MathML to OMML while converting between DOC and DOCX is not seamless and automatic.Word 2007 DOCX File Format Especially, when saving DOC files using Word 2007, equations are rendered as graphics as the older DOC format as well as older versions of Office do not support OMML, which prevents editing and flexibly printing the equations.Microsoft Office dumped by Science and Nature OMML is partially compatible with MathML through relatively simple XSL Transformations. Word 2007 has support for converting equations to/from MathML via the clipboard.XHTML and MathML from Office 2007Word 2007 Math Copied equations are in (Presentation) MathML format, so they can be pasted into other programs that understand this XML markup, such as Mathematica. Conversely, MathML can also be pasted into a Word document and it will be recognized as an equation and displayed properly (as long as it does not contain MathML symbolic character entities such as ± — numeric entities must be used instead). The transformations that allow copying/pasting equations via MathML are driven by two XSL stylesheets (omml2mml.xsl and mml2omml.xsl). These scripts can be used outside of Word by reading or manipulating DOCX XML files directly.
Microsoft Office 2008 for Mac does not currently support OMML.Equations saved from Word 2007 for Windows do not appear in Word 2008 for Mac  This is supported in Office 2011.
Quietbritishjim (talk) 02:08, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Format compatibility