Talk:Australian air traffic control

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BetacommandBot (talk) 20:13, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
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message: The article refers to Brisbane FIR and Melbourne FIR however Airservices refer to these as the Northern and Southern FIR respectively. Also, all (not most) ASA sites are parts of TAAATS.
I'm not sure that 'approach' should be considered a separate service to 'enroute' and 'tower'. I think that the original author may be trying to make reference to the TCU's (Terminal Control Units) at Sydney and Perth(?) which are much smaller versions of the Brisbane and Melbourne enroute centers responsible for the airspace around their respective airports but beyond the scope of the tower.
There is another type of Air Traffic Control conducted by Airservices that is not mentioned in this article. AusFIC (Australian Flight Information Centre) provide in-flight data and rudimentary control for aircraft over the entirety of both FIRs using the HF band from the Brisbane center. They also monitor emergency broadcasts and alert search and rescue.--Spuzzdawg (talk) 11:07, 14 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terminology 

message: Don't know where Spuzzdawg is getting their info, not all AsA sites are part of TAAATS, most regional towers are not. They get messages from TAAATS like flight plans, SSR code allocations, departure messages for inbound flights. But they are NOT linked in directly. We (controllers) also do not use the 'Northern' or 'Southern' FIR terminology, it's simply Melbourne and Brisbane. Approach is a different service entirely, and the TCU's are still considered seperate even for the Melbourne, Canberra and Brisbane/Gold Coast TMA's that are attached to the centres. Lastly AusFIC (great though they are) are NOT air traffic controllers, they are radio operators and breifing/NOTAM office personnel that pass messages between pilots, controllers and different air traffic control centres. They are prohibited from issuing their own control directions to an aircraft, they must only be relayed from/to ATC. What they do could form a sub-part of this article in its own right, or even their own article.
Suggestions, Tower list should be sorted by airspace classes, Wagga Tower isn't active (but is rumoured to be on the cards) despite their being a tower on site, Approach list should note that Brisbane Approach also covers Gold Coast.
118.209.107.221 (talk) 03:57, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestions