Talk:Vehicle registration plates of the United Kingdom, Crown dependencies and overseas territories

message: I have seen plates with numbers such as 000D000 where each 0 may be a digit. Are these diplomatic plates?  I see a high probability of them being outside diplomatic houses such as embassies and high commissions. Also, there are 000X000 ones. – Kaihsu 22:41, 2005 Jan 22 (UTC)
:For a full account of diplomatic plates in Britain (000 D 000 and 000 X 000), see this page. -- Picapica 10:03, 20 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  000D000 

message: whilst Scotland and Ireland had special sequences incorporating the letters "S" and "I" respectively
Judging by this list of old one and two letter codes at http://www.regtransfers.co.uk/main/stories/cracking2.asp it appears that not all Scottish codes contained an 'S', eg 'G' for Glasgow,, 'AG' for Ayrshire.
I can answer that: 
Apart from G - Glasgow, S - Edinburgh, and V - Lanarkshire, the original 1903 scheme did indeed only allocate codes in Scotland of the form S* or *S. Only later, when all the "S" codes had been used up, were other codes issued in Scotland. Two letter codes with G or V in them were originally reserved for this purpose, but some were eventually used in England.''
:For the record, the two-letter codes with G (and without S) that were originally issued in Scotland were:
:GA - Glasgow, from 1920
:GB - Glasgow, from 1922
:GD - Glasgow, from 1925
:GE - Glasgow, from 1928
:GG - Glasgow, from 1930
:GM - Motherwell and Wishaw, from 1920
:AG - Ayrshire, from 1925
:FG - Fife, from 1925
:RG - Aberdeen, from 1928
:WG - Stirlingshire, from 1930
:The last five of these were re-allocated south of the border in the big re-organisation of October 1974 - GM going to Reading, AG to Hull, FG to Brighton, RG to Newcastle and WG to Sheffield.
:Only three two-letter codes with V (and without S) were originally issued in Scotland:
:VA - Lanarkshire, from 1922
:VD - Lanarkshire, from 1930
:AV - Aberdeenshire, from 1926
:All of these went south in October 1974 - AV going to Peterborough, VA to Cambridge (and thence to Peterborough in 1981), and VD to Luton (but only until 1978, when it was withdrawn).
:Luton, of course, also inherited GS and VS from Perthshire and Greenock respectively. Bluebird207 (talk) 21:40, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scottish number plates 

message: When a licensing authority reached 9999, it was allocated another two letter mark, but there was no pattern to these subsequent allocations as they were allocated on a first come first served basis.
Looking at the above list, it's plausible that initially they were allocated on a first-come-first-served basis, but it's clear that at some point an effort was made to introduce some kind of ad-hoc pattern. Eg most of the 'Lx' codes were allocated to London, several of the 'Nx' codes to Manchester, etc.  Perhaps this is when the 'Sx' codes were allocated to Scotland?
:The 'Sx' and 'xS' codes were allocated to Scotland right at the start of the system, in 1903.
:London took most of the 'Lx' codes simply because it wanted them. The first one it took was LC in May 1905, followed by LN in November 1906, LB in March 1908, LD in May 1909, LA in April 1910, LE in July 1911, LF in May 1912, LH in February 1913 and LK in August 1913.
:Likewise Middlesex with most of the 'Mx' codes (beginning with MX in July 1912, followed by MC in August 1917, MD in August 1920 and ME in November 1921), Kent with most of the 'Kx' codes (beginning with KT in January 1913, followed by KN in August 1917, KE in July 1920 and KK in June 1922), and Birmingham with most of the 'Ox' codes (beginning with OA in February 1913, followed by OB in October 1915, OE in May 1919 and OH in May 1920). Bluebird207 (talk) 22:21, 15 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Allocation of old one/two letter codes 

message: It's clear from Olav's site that the numbers can vary in lenght, eg Jersey plates don't have to be five digits, older ones are four (and presumably they started at '1').  COnversely Alderney plates at no longer three digits, they're now into four (and presumably they started at '1' too?).
This also suggests that Channel Island number plates exist in a separete number space and can clash with UK plates.  In the old UK scheme 'J' was apparently allocated to Durham and 'AY' to Leicestershire.  If this is true it is probably worthy of note.
Guernsey plates presumably cannot clash with UK plates, since they're entirely numberic, and such plates have never been used in the UK.
The 'GBG' with a circle round appears to be just a stylistic element on the plate.  Judging by Olav's site by no means all plates have it.
Roy Badami 23:09, 21 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Channel Island Number Plates 

message: And another...
This page http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/haynes1/ukdiplo.htm referenced by Picapica above mentions a third kind of diplomatic plat (eg A21RXS) that we don't mentionl.
Roy Badami 01:06, 22 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've attempted to summarise the use of the two-line plate format - basically it's used when a plate narrower than the standard format is needed. Don't really need to say much more than that, IMHO. Regards, Letdorf (talk) 12:39, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diplomatic plates 

message: Does anyone know anything about the "new F" number plates?
--JimmyTheWig 14:57, 3 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  "New F" number plates 

message: Look guys, I know you want to sell your numberplates but sneaking links into the main page here isn't the way to do it. Go whore your wares elsewhere.
TiHead 22:50, 28 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personalised Number Plates 

message: Again having to correct this.  Black plates are now permitted on all Historic Vehicles, which means any built prior to 1973.  They do not have to have been registered or used prior to that date, only built.  I quote from the DVLA website "Vehicles constructed before 1.1.73 may display traditional style "black and white" plates i.e. white, silver or grey characters on a black plate." Colin99 21:39, 3 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: London buses (and Ripponden Motors lorries) did, but most had the usual black characters on white and yellow plates. Peter James (talk) 02:45, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black plates 

message: No mention of Gibraltar plates on the article. They have a very UK style of plate but with G and then numbers.
::That's probably because they have their own article. --DWRtalk 15:24, 16 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gibraltar 

message: There appears to be a good site with information about the place of origin of number plates for the previous system. Alan Pascoe 11:11, 29 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good information source 

message: By law; number plates must display the postcode of the producer. I'm not sure when this became mandatory.
This was when the new font was introduced. Rugxulo (talk) 00:08, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Mentioned in the Theft of number plates section. MilborneOne (talk) 00:10, 7 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I've had two new sets of plates on my current motor (due to theft), both from Halfords.  Neither has had a postcode on them. Mr Larrington (talk) 12:40, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Post Code 

message: Does anybody know what the rules are about the temporary / transit / trade plates that are used for cars which have not yet been registered / are being delivered / test-driven? e.g. the red-lettered thing that gets put in your car when you go for a test drive etc —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 80.168.226.117 (talk) 19:21, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Temporary / Transit / Trade Plates 

message: I followed a car the other day, which had a plate starting "TF07". I thought it looked odd. So where did that one come from? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 62.56.118.20 (talk • contribs) 19:41, 13 Jul 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Glasgow. -- Arwel (talk) 08:43, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "TF" plate? 

message: The article currently says under British Forces: In West Germany, private cars owned by members of HM Forces and their families also used plates with the same format (i.e. 2 number, 2 letter, 2 number), distinct from those used in the UK. My recollection is that this wasn't so - BAOR plates were distinct from both British and German plates, I think I recall them being 3 letters, 3 numbers. Can anyone confirm? -- Arwel (talk) 08:43, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Worldlicenseplates.com has two photos. If that site is right, the format was two letters, three figures, one letter, and later three letters, two figures, one letter.--GagHalfrunt 15:50, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, thanks for that. It's definitely not what we say in the article, anyway... -- Arwel (talk) 22:04, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  BAOR private plates 

message: Should this article be called Car number plates in the United Kingdom? As this covers the whole of the UK and not just Great Britain it would seem to be the better title. Regan123 (talk) 16:47, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page Name 

message: One license plate i see often in england, they have three letters, a space, and four numbers, are these private plates or the national plates for England?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.192.246.56 (talk) 22:08, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If one of the letters is I or Z, then these are numbers originally issued in Northern Ireland, although these can be later transferred to mainland vehicles (a common practice to disguise the age of the vehicle in question). Letdorf (talk) 23:21, 21 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Private plates for England? 

message: Fairly insignificant this one, but are the plates really rectangular? I should have thought that in order for them to be rectangular, they would have to have corners. Is there a technical name for a rectangle that isn't a rectangle, or will "approximately rectangular" suffice?
Second point: is it right that NI is still referenced as being served by the DVLNI or should that be the DVA now?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by LaFoiblesse (talk • contribs) 10:25, 29 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: It appears the DVLNI has been subsumed by the DVA, so I've updated the article accordingly. Letdorf (talk) 15:44, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

text: In design terminology the shape of both types of UK plate can be described as a filleted rectangle. Rugxulo (talk) 22:19, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Just a couple of points 

message: The article Vehicle registration plate identifiers of the United Kingdom mostly consists of a table of "local memory tags" which is also duplicated here, thus rendering the article largely pointless. Letdorf (talk) 17:30, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have now replaced Vehicle registration plate identifiers of the United Kingdom with a redirect to the appropriate section in this article. Letdorf (talk) 23:07, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merging [[Vehicle registration plate identifiers of the United Kingdom]] 

message: Parts of this article regarding NI have been repeatedly edited by a user or users who has/have an obviously non-NPOV attitude to Northern Ireland, despite it (IMHO) being broadly in accordance with WP:IMOS. I suggest it might be more constructive for interested parties to discuss and reach a compromise on this talk page, than to continue the current edit war. Letdorf (talk) 23:26, 3 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I propose deleting the whole "European plates and the GB controversy" sub-section. Evidently, this section is too tempting a target for edit-warring soapboxers, and is mostly unreferenced - the one reference given is about driving licences, not registration numbers. Letdorf (talk) 15:57, 5 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  NI Euro plates and [[Stroke City]] 

message: I have a suspicion that Q-suffix numbers were issued to indicate a vehicle of indeterminate vintage before 1983. This website seems to imply this was the case. Can anyone confirm or deny? Letdorf (talk) 11:36, 13 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I remember seeing _one_ Q suffix plate in the 1980s when I would be about 12 or 13. This was about the time that the A-prefix plates came in. So I can confirm (not that it counts for much on WP) that they were issued. As a matter of fact, it is years since I've seen a Q prefix plate. Rugxulo (talk) 21:47, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yep, bang on - most typically seen on kit cars.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.211.94.137 (talk) 07:55, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Q plates were also used for temporarily imported vehicles.  When I was a small Mr Larrington we had QQ1773 on a Saab to get it from the dealer to Germany, where it was re-registered with a BAOR number. Mr Larrington (talk) 12:44, 13 February 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Q suffix numbers? 

message: Does anyone have a good reference for the "K" local memory tag prefix standing for Milton Keynes (or anything else)? The official DVLA publication (INF104) doesn't give a derivation for this particular tag, so in the absence of other references, we shouldn't really be speculating here. Letdorf (talk) 22:52, 6 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have removed this 'meaning' for the K tag, stating no meaning. As you say, DVLA INF104 has a blank in this field. Speculating, I'd say that was what was left over after allocating meanings, however dubious. Kruador (talk) 11:34, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I always assumed this to mean Kettering. INF104 only mentions two places, Borehamwood and Northampton (which is very close to Kettering) and in the absence of a more reliable source, these are all we can mention in the article. Rugxulo (talk) 22:01, 3 April 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As part of a general tidy up, I have added a citation linking to the BBC News Online article from when the tags were first announced and there is no meaning attributed to the K tag there either, so DVLA seems to have been consistent in having no official name for it. Given the repeated previous edits inserting (and removing) "Milton Keynes", including its recent undeletion, I have sought to avoid an edit war by retaining the words as a de facto unofficial usage (which is generous, since there is no citation) but have italicised the words to indicate that they are not of equal standing with the other areas, noting in brackets that there is no official name. It would be helpful if a citation of unofficial usage could be provided to justify the name's retention, or if evidence of non-usage could be given to justify its future removal. Richardguk (talk) 05:37, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: AFAIK, the only source of any relevance to this is INF104. If INF104 doesn't give a derivation for 'K', then, unless someone can find an equally authoritative source, then any derivation given in this article is fictitious. In any case, both Kettering and Milton Keynes have been suggested in the past by various WP contributors, without any references of course.Letdorf (talk) 22:19, 14 October 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I've Googled based on the least ambiguous area names and found only one non-Wikipedia reference to Milton Keynes, and no independent references at all to Kettering. Though a widely-used unofficial name might be reasonable to include (distinguished as such), I agree that there is evidence to justify not including any name, official or even unofficial. Have accordingly deleted Milton Keynes and added a hidden HTML comment to the main page for future editors. Richardguk (talk) 01:04, 15 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Local memory tags in 2001 onwards GB registrations 

message: The article doesn't tell who produces the plates. Are the plates obtained from the Driver and Vehicle Licensing Agency or do car owners get them from some private company? Also, if the DVLA provides the plates, is it legal to use privately made plates?. -- Petri Krohn (talk) 06:02, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Number plates are now produced by registered suppliers, private plates are not allowed. Just added a section on number plate suppliers - please let us known if it is not clear. In the past anybody with the right equipment could make a plate with very little control so the rules were tightened up a few years ago. MilborneOne (talk) 10:29, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who produces the plates? 

message: I can't find any independent reporting of the significance of the information in the following paragraph, so I have deleted it from the main page:
:The option of the EU stars and the country identifier letters ‘GB’ is claimed to be a registered design – number 2053070 – registered at the UK Patent Office in 1995 by David and Nansi Mottram.http://www.intelligentinnovation.eu/pages/registered-designs/eurosymbol-numberplates.php However, the blue strip with European Union emblem and country identifier was introduced by Ireland in 1991, before the Mottrams registered their version.
There is indeed a registered design at the UK Patent Office and the Mottrams have expressed strong views on the dispute on many websites. But there seems to be no third-party reporting of this intellectual property dispute. On the face of it, therefore, the claim does is not widely considered to be a serious threat to the use of the GB European Union symbol and the significance of the dispute is currently insufficient to make it encyclopedic. In addition, the link above currently seems to cause a virus warning. Richardguk (talk) 02:26, 28 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. A quick google doesn't seem to throw up anything which could be considered a reliable secondary source. Looks like WP:SOAP to me. Letdorf (talk) 12:05, 5 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  European Union symbol: Mottram claim 

message: What is the J prefix used for under the current system?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.160.207.120 (talk) 09:55, 19 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  J 

message: I'm not sure I understand why various IP addresses persist in deleting this image from the "Colour and dimensions" section - it seems quite appropriate to me. Please discuss your objection here. Thanks, Letdorf (talk) 13:19, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image:GB EUROPLATE.jpg 

message: 1. The TF07 plate (see above) was almost certainly a military vehicle plate and would be of the form AA99AA.
2. The Q suffix and prefix was also used for ex-military vehicles sold for civilian use (e.g. LandRovers and occasional breakdown recovery vehicles or heavy transport low loaders) where the MOD did not want to reveal the date of manufacture.
62.69.36.215 (talk) 09:26, 7 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Registrations of the form "TF07 ABC" were definitely issued in Scotland, probably from the Glasgow DVLA office (yes, I know this is OR).  Letdorf (talk) 13:15, 8 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unusual plates 

message: I can't help but wonder - why was "UBF" an unacceptable prefix?  I can understand why "UVF" or "UNF" or (these days) "UBS" might be banned - but what connotations does "UBF" has that lead to its inclusion on the list? 87.194.239.235 (talk) 22:46, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No evidence but possibly for You Bloody Fool which may have been unacceptable in the past. MilborneOne (talk) 12:38, 16 August 2010 (UTC)

text: Equally speculative, but was there ever a Young British Fascists, analagous to the Young Conservatives, Young Liberals etc.? Si Trew (talk) 17:18, 16 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That might be it - although the official name of the organization was the "BUF", it's probably close enough.  cf JPF vs PFJ.  Thanks for the info.  87.194.239.235 (talk) 23:48, 27 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm still not convinced. If You Bloody Fool, why allow "UFC" i.e. on this theory, You Fucking Cunt? I can find one source for this line of thought, a number plate vendor's site, but at least one other such site includes UBF in its lists of available ones. I'm extremely tempted to delete UBF from the list. Lovingboth (talk) 12:05, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: DVLA will happily sell you, for example, A1 UBF = it's going. Lovingboth (talk) 12:10, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I know it needs a reliable reference but being available now is not an indication that it has always been available. MilborneOne (talk) 12:55, 14 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Banned prefixes 

message: In the history section, 1932-1963, there is mention of the 'reversed' registrations, with the numbers after the numerals. Is there any way of finding out where individual registrations were allocated?  (Mention is made of their geographical location eg the system starting at Staffordshire and also operating in Middlesex.)  Also is there a way of finding out what year they were allocated in (the period spans the 1950s to the beginning of the 1960s in the article)  I am interested in 310 NDT.  How can I find out where this was issued and in what year - and can we talk about how to find out such information in the article? 82.32.238.139 (talk) 19:41, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I wouldn't recommend pointing out in the article where to find information as regards when such and such a registration was issued - but I do recommend this site: http://www.oldclassiccar.co.uk/registrations/reg-letters.htm Bluebird207 (talk) 23:14, 21 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  'Reversed' registrations of the 1950s to early 1960s eg 310 NDT 

message: I propose sections of Vehicle registration plates of the United Kingdom be split into an article titled something like Vehicle registration plates of British overseas territories (though I understand the wording "overseas territories" would exclude crown dependencies like the Isle of Man and Jersey). Does anyone have any opinions, for or against, on this idea? Kevin Steinhardt (talk) 19:20, 20 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposal for article split 

message: I'd suggest this is removed, as it's misleading; as the image has 'helpfully' been refined to only include the mainland (and thus excludes the Scottish islands, Orkney, Shetland, etc) it's not actually an accurate reference for the area covered by regular UK plate usage...  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.211.94.137 (talk) 07:59, 31 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map of Great Britain 

message: Does anyone know why the UK has two registration offices? DVLA and DVA?
Are they using the same registration database? 
I am aware of that DVA is in NI but what is the point of having two offices?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by Vitringur (talk • contribs) 01:59, 5 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Because they are different countries? Si Trew (talk) 16:50, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  DVLA and DVA 

message: The information about registrations given to imported vehicles seems to be incorrect, stating that when a vehicle is imported to the UK, it is registered as a new vehicle (with the current year identifier) when in actual fact it is given an appropriate registration according to the vehicle's age; i.e. a 1996 car imported to the UK now (2011) would be given a "new" prefix N or P registration with the DVLA database showing the date of first registration as 2011, but the year of manufacture as 1996. A "new" Q prefix plate would be given to that vehicle if the age was unknown.
If a vehicle is given a personalised registration from new, and say in 2011 the owner wishes to sell that vehicle (of 2003 vintage) and transfer their personalised registration to their new vehicle, their old vehicle that they are selling will be given a "new" 52 / 03 / 53 plate.
I think it needs to be made clear that in the UK plates need to made from plastic and not metal, but this only applies to vehicles manufactured after a certain year. Unfortunately I am not sure what that year is. --86.156.145.37 (talk) 14:23, 18 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe you are correct, although we really need a reliable source for the above. Regards, Letdorf (talk) 20:23, 14 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Imported vehicles, personalised registrations and plate materials 

message: Could someone explain in the article what plate can subsequently be used on the older car when its plate is transferred to a newer one (given that it can't receive the plate from the newer vehicle). Is it still necessary to own both of the vehicles for a transfer to take place. I understood that at one point plates were transferred onto a cheap moped which was then sold to the purchaser for a very high price who transferred it to their vehicle in situations where the owners only wished to transfer a plate. PeterEastern (talk) 21:44, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: See DVLA leaflet INF46. Nowadays a previously issued registration number can be transferred to a V778 Retention Document without the need for unwanted mopeds. Regards, Letdorf (talk) 23:36, 11 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Practicality of transfering plates 

message: The image :File:BritishNumberPlates_CopyrightKaihsuTai.jpg is rather misleading here, for two reasons:
#First for the more minor one, KaishuTai claims copyright not only in the name of the file but in the file's description, then grants it fair use under GC-SSA. I imagine technically Kaishu-san can do so, but rather goes against the spirit of things.
#Second, the top number plate is illegal because it does not display the name or postcode of the motor store or factor who made the plate. So we are saying on the article, essentially, this is a legal number plate (new version) when in fact that number plate is illegal.
Best wishes Si Trew (talk) 16:48, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: To clarify: I appreciate old plates etc will have been made before the rules for having the motor factor's signiature came into force. I have some myself for an old Beetle, still in the nice silver and black. I just don't think it is appropriate to put on an important article like this, that people seem to come to a lot wondering how do I register my car in the UK etc, to unwittingly mislead them to thinking that would be a current legal registration plate. Si Trew (talk) 16:54, 18 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pic in lede 

message: I have hidden the recent text dump of old codes as it has no references and look a bit of a mess, suggest it could be produced as a separate list if anybody has a reliable reference, thanks. MilborneOne (talk) 14:44, 6 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Old codes

message: Some wierd stuff in the table...  --109.148.118.64 (talk) 01:19, 27 December 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  51-04 plates being re-used in 2051-2055?! 

message: Should the Northern Ireland section say Londonderry as it now? or per WP:DERRY should if be Derry? I contend that as a historical reference (introduced in 1903), it should say Londonderry. Since there was an Act of Parliament or Statuary Instrument, specifying the county/city name and code (UI - Londonderry), this is what should be in the article. Snappy (talk) 19:52, 1 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: WP:DERRY is what is used today, to avoid arguments like these.  The community decided this was the fairest way to refer to entities - Derry for the city, Londonderry for the county.  Regardless of historical references.  -- HighKing++   22:41, 2 April 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: According to WP:DERRY: "Where an entity uses a particular name, regardless of whether it is Derry or Londonderry, use that name for the entity". So if Londonderry (without Derry as an alternative) was used in the name of the office, or council, it should be Londonderry (but it's possible that the office didn't specify its name, only its location). Peter James (talk) 21:14, 31 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Northern Ireland - L/Derry 

message: I'm seeing vehicles on the British motorways with trade type plates that look to be purely numerical - '064367' format. Does anyone know anything about these? Peridon (talk) 10:52, 29 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Obviously not. Peridon (talk) 18:24, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  New trade plate system? 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: 03M**** and 08X**** (where **** are digits) - not mentioned here, but are these UK or US military? Peter James (talk) 01:33, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: 03MN**** or 03-MN-**** would be a Monaghan plate from the Republic of Ireland, and would be in a a smaller size than UK plates, and black on white front and rear. M and X by themselves aren't used as location indicators in the ROI, though (single letter ones being C, D, G, L, T and W being the only ones listed. What sort of plates were these ones? The colours and styles might help (also what sort of vehicle). Peridon (talk) 19:42, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other formats 

message: http://www.cvpg.co.uk/REG.pdf mentions YV changed from Beverley to Sheffield and YL Sheffield to Leeds but this page mentions their original allocations, and elsewhere the allocations are as listed here. Which would be correct for YL02 registered in Huddersfield by a company with a Doncaster postcode? Peter James (talk) 02:07, 29 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  YL and YV changed allocations? 

message: I've added the new numbering system for UK trade plates, with a reference. That's the best one I can see for now, and I can't find the exact date of introduction. If anyone can find this, please put it in. It's in the last year or two. I also can't get the little box illustrating what the plate looks like to show two white spaces to the right of the number. This is where the DVLA authentication bit goes, and as the writing is quite small there, it gives the plate a lopsided look (see ref for illustration).
On another point, I would dispute the accuracy of the existing info on the previous system. I'm on the roads quite a lot, and I've never seen a trade plate with three letters. They are in the format 1234 A or 123 AB with leading zeroes when required (and usually a space between number and letters). The reference says there are, so until I can find something that contradicts it, I'll leave it in. If anyone else can check this out, I'd be grateful. It could be that, originally, it was planned for the three letter ones to be available, but this was dropped when the reversed format for ordinary registrations had to be introduced. Peridon (talk) 19:13, 19 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trade plates (revisited) 

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message: Footnote 7 should now point to: https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/533255/inf104-vehicle-registration-numbers-and-number-plates.pdf
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replies: text: Done. :) Bluebird207 (talk) 11:36, 9 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken link in footnote 

message: "Vehicle registration plates of the United Kingdom, Crown dependencies and overseas territories" has always struck me as an excessively long and unwieldy title for a long and unwieldy article.  It covers various registration series that basically share nothing in common except for the constitutional relationship between their issuing territories, which does not seem like a compelling reason to concatenate them into a single article.  Therefore, I am seeking views on a split.
I don't have strong views as to precisely how many ways the article should be split, just that something needs to be done.  As a starting point, I would certainly split out the Crown dependencies and overseas territories.  Given that the Isle of Man has already been split out into a separate article, I would be inclined to create two further new articles, one for the Channel Islands, and one for British overseas territories.
That would leave "Vehicle registration plates of the United Kingdom" as a far more logical unit of information; however, even that would still be a very long article, and I think there might be scope for further splitting out some of the in-depth detail on the different systems.  After all, although the NI and historic GB systems were originally a common system, they went their separate ways over half a century ago; and the current systems have nothing in common apart from being administered by the same agency.  Therefore, I think that NI, GB, and GB (1903—2001) could each legitimately be a separate article, as long as the main UK article continued to provide an adequate overview of each, along with easy navigation to the finer details.
Although this would be a fair bit of work, and may result in some small degree of duplication, I think it would definitely be worthwhile to improve the readability and navigability of the information.  Anyone else have any thoughts on this?
Quackdave (talk) 19:33, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: Sounds like a good idea, certainly split out the Channel Islands and BOTs seems a reasonable thing to do. MilborneOne (talk) 21:03, 27 February 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting this article?