Talk:Philip Marlowe

message: The caption to the photo lists Gerald Mohr as Philip Marlowe, yet under the Gerald Mohr wiki article it describes the same photo as being from Undercover Girl, a movie which has nothing to do with Phillip Marlowe. 
No knock against Gerald Mohr, or Bogart, but Marlowe was probably a bit more  handsome than either. Picture should be changed, and when I become technically proficient enough, I'll do so, if no one else does first. Guernseykid 20:05, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Gerald Mohr photo

message: Since figure in illustration is looking to the right, the image is placed on left because of a basic layout and design principle. I've previously raised this point after people move left-side images to the right but never get a response. Pepso 20:16, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Although the principle is generally sound, I think in this particular case the image could just as well be interpreted as having his back to the viewer, which would make it appropriate to have the image on the right (since his back is, as it were, looking to the left). Just a thought. --Paul A 05:47, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure I follow that, but how about this? The picture does work okay on the right because the venetian blinds echo and continue the lines of typography. I'd very much like to know the name of the illustrator. Anyone know? Pepso 07:28, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: it's not about his back, it's about where the empty space is.  Pic should be on the left.  raining_girl 23:56, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: At last! Someone who knows design and sees what I'm getting at! Pepso 00:24, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: after seeing your comment I looked at a load of articles, and the pics are all on the right.  If that's the Wikipedia standard then - you aren't going to like it - we need a new pic!  GDAR...  But if I'm wrong and it's a matter of choice then move the pic over. raining_girl 18:32, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There are many pages with images on the left. Some have images at both the top left and top right, with text between. Pepso 19:52, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: In that case...  I've moved it.  raining_girl 16:51, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yay! You reign, girl! Pepso 19:32, 16 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: BBC

message: It never seems to mention whether Marlowe has any friends or partners throughout the novels. Is this not considered important? It seems to be. FiendishThingie 17:29, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Unlike many characters in hard boiled fiction who appear in several novels or stories, Marlowe has almost no friends or colleagues that are mentioned more than once. Even Hammett's Continental Op who was also very much an individualist had recurring characters from the detective agency he worked at. But Marlowe had almost no characters that appear more than once and those few that did, tended to appear 2-3 times at most. Bernie Ohls, Anne Riordan, and Linda Loring are the only ones that are mentioned more than once as far as I remember. IMO it is part of the character Chandler was going for, that Marlowe was very much an individual and somewhat lonely man. Also, I think it is debatable if we should include the novel Poodle Springs as part of what people would these days call the "cannon" of the Marlowe stories. It was never completed nor published and to me the idea of a settled down Marlowe just never rang true and I wonder if Chandler would have ever published that novel without changing that aspect of it. I think not but of course that is just an opinion not something I would put in an article. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 20:47, 3 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  In The Long Goodbye, Marlowe provides a brief autobiography (a paragraph long, which includes details such as both parents dead, played football in college, etc.) to another character, wherein he describes himself as "a lone wolf". Having read these books numerous times over the years, I never had the impression Marlowe was at all lonely, just not gregarious. He typically proves himself socially adept, & in various novels alludes to knowing different people, although definitely more as acquaintances than close friends; it's clear Marlowe could have friends & lovers if he cared to. Perhaps Chandler did not detail Marlowe's social life (e.g. "I had to call X first to cancel our bowling game before I could go out & talk to this guy") because they were irrelevant to the plot. (One could argue there are some minor inconsistencies on this matter; it's possible Chandler never thought his social network was important.) -- llywrch (talk) 16:21, 13 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Info on Personal Relationships?

message: Why is there no mention of what I understand is Chandler's first short story, "Blackmailers Don't Shoot." Admittedly, it's written in third person, and this may have something to do with why, unlike other shorts reffed in the article, reprints in Marlowe collections (I first read it in an omnibus, The Midnight Raymond Chandler, but I think it was also in the mass-market paperback Trouble is My Business) don't change the private eye's name from Mallory. But it is generally considered an early Marlowe story as much as the others, and as I said it has been included in Marlowe collections. Ted Watson (talk) 21:05, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I should have also pointed out that it was adapted as an episode of the HBO TV series with Powers Boothe as Marlowe. So the question stands: Why isn't this story mentioned here at all? --Ted Watson (talk) 20:36, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Chandler didn't originally hit on the name Marlowe for his protagonist. The earliest stories used different names for the detective, even though he changed the name to Marlowe when her re-used some of them for his novels and also I think in some republications of the stories. I haven't read that story in decades and can't find it but my guess is if it is written in the third person rather than the first it is probably one of the early stories that doesn't use the name Marlowe. I remember when that series with Booth came out that they definitely used at least one story where the name of the detective wasn't Marlowe. Which doesn't mean the story still couldn't be used, the question is, is there something in that story that is especially noteworthy to the character (even if the name isn't the same). If not then I think that's the reason, there is no need to reference every single thing Chandler wrote in this article, there are other articles for that. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 04:19, 21 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Blackmailers Don't Shoot" 

message: The following statement on the article under this category contains an error:
In the Count Duckula episode Private Beak, Duckula adopts the pseudonym of Philip Mallard, as a spoof of Marlowe. The name 'Mallard' may refer to Kent Mallard, one of the possible secret identities the Shadow, another pulp fiction crimefighter.
The part about one of the Shadow's possible secret identities being Kent Mallard is incorrect.  The name was not Kent Mallard, but Kent Allard (no M).72.79.1.58 (talk) 01:22, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. In fact, I noticed it the other day, but by the time I finished checking my entire Watchlist edit activity log, I forgot about it. However, does it belong here? A note in The Shadow's own article is no doubt a good idea, but I throw open the floor to discussion about its relevancy to "Philip Marlowe." --Ted Watson (talk) 22:32, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infuences and Adaptations 

message: Philip Marlowe is not in any of the short stories in this collection.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.150.170.199 (talk) 02:11, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Simple Art of Murder 

message: Chandler took the surname name from the Elizabethan playwright and possible spy; Christopher Marlowe.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 213.40.254.24 (talk) 14:03, 5 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Name

message: I see ABC have announced they're got a new Philip Marlowe series from the creator of Castle in development; Article here. Number36 (talk) 23:34, 25 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  New ABC TV series 

message: I can understand using Bogart as the pic for Marlowe, he was certainly the most famous and his performance in The Big Sleep was IMO just perfect. But he didn't look anything like Marlowe as described by Chandler and Bogart was not someone that Chandler thought a good likeness of Marlowe. The main difference was Marlowe was a big tall guy. In The Big Sleep they even had to change one of the lines of the novel, in the novel the younger daughter says something like "my you're tall" where as in the movie she says "not very tall are you". Not a big deal but as long as we are using a cartoon image anyway I think if someone could get a picture of Marlowe as used in the paperback illustrations of the original books, the big square jawed Marlowe, that was how Chandler described him. --MadScientistX11 (talk) 15:53, 28 August 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with this comment from eight years ago. Bogart's picture should not be displayed if he doesn't resemble the novel's description or the author's opinion of what Marlowe should look like. It would be like displaying Tom Cruise under the literary character of Jack Reacher. I'm taking this down pending any other art that might be added in its place. --Tropic Wolf (talk) 21:44, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Picture: Is Bogart Really the Best Marlowe Pic to Use? 

message: Although there is a source for the article's claim that Chandler was in Marlowe House at Dulwich, he wasn't, because Marlowe was one of six day houses created at the school in 1919, all named after famous contemporaries of the school's founder Edward Alleyn. Chandler had left the school nearly 15 years earlier. I take it the school's own website is sufficient authority. https://www.dulwich.org.uk/senior-school/co-curricular/day-houses/a-short-history But, of course, as an Old Alleynian, Chandler might have heard about Marlowe House by 1939 when he wrote The Big Sleep. Khamba Tendal (talk) 20:13, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: The link is also broken; considering this information is contradictory, and no one else seems to be minding this page, I will remove this bit of trivia until some solid facts can be sourced on the origin of the name (from Chandler himself if possible). Tropic Wolf (talk) 03:20, 5 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Marlowe House 

message: Does this piano concerto (made in 2011) count as a notable example to be mentioned in the References in Other Work section, if yes how should it be written? 
(Sorry if the question is dumb) 
RandomEditorAAA (talk) 02:43, 10 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philip Marlowe Concerto by Corentin Boissier   

message: I'm not sure what "just short of the classic six foot, two" refers to. Should probably take that out since it is just confusing. In Farewell, My Lovely, Marlowe is described as having dark hair and a medium heavy build, so I am adding those details. --Tropic Wolf (talk) 05:28, 29 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: One more adjustment here. Farewell, My Lovely has a witness describe Marlowe as "six feet" and later, Marlowe remarks, "He had an inch more of height than I had, which made him six feet one." I'm not sure where the previous height was found, but in Farewell, My Lovely at least, he is six feet tall. ~~ Tropic Wolf (talk) 17:49, 2 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Description