Talk:University of Florida/archive 1

message: There needs to be section about the kid that got tasered.  It was at University of Florida and now the domain name www.donttasemebro.com points to this website.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.219.213.246 (talk) 01:16, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Don't Tase me bro

message: Anyone have anything against my adding the FLSUS_taxobox like some of the other Florida Universities? --Kushboy 4:14 PM June 05 2005
No, I was hoping someone would add that... Magicman17 18:34, 24 Jun 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: FLSUS infobox

message: isn't a GPA of 4.0 a perfect score? If so, the only way an "average" freshman could have a GPA of 4.0 would be if *all* freshmen had perfect scores. Duracell 21:49, 25 Jun 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: No, what is he is saying is that UF is very up front about their average incoming class, just like every other university that puts out those statistics. They make very clear the weighted and unweighted GPAs. It's WIKIPEDIA that didn't differentiate, not UF. -FrYGuY 21:39, 8 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: GPA

message: I made an article about the research & training reactor at UF as a part of an ongoing university reactor series.  I see no mention of anything related to it in this UF article, so will someone please add it for me? theanphibian 20:27, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay well I'm thinking that it should go in Research and discoveries because I don't see any facility section.  Oh, I guess I can edit it, so I'll just go pencil it in. theanphibian 21:44, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Nuclear Reactor

message: No offense but touting this University as "the place where gatorade was invented" is pretty pathetic considering the beverage is nothing but water and sugar. Hey but I guess that is considered and accomplishment in UF. Huramans 11:23, 12 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gatorade 

message: Basically, we need to decide which year to put as UF's establishment. As seen in the article, UF changed its year from 1905 to 1853. 1853 is the establishment of the East Florida Seminary, which may or may not have become UF. More information about the change can be found in the second paragraph of "History". Kushboy 23:02, August 10, 2005 (UTC)
:rfc comment - I think the current approach of having both is right. Rd232 22:23, 14 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Problem with that is then you have to do the same with the FSU and FAMU articles too. EFS did, in a round about way, end up part of UF... one of the buildings from EFS is right across University Avenue from campus (fittingly, as a church)... FSU and FAMU both derive from earlier institutions, and use the founding date of THOSE institutions as THEIR founding date... which is more correct? Well, UF DOES have roots in EFS, and the 1905 date represents a reorganization which resulted in the current UF. So is the founding the 'roots' or the 'sprout' (To continue the plant analogy)? I don't particularly care which gets used, but it needs to be consistant with the FSU and FAMU article... -FrYGuY 11:01, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: RfC Discussion

message: Considering that there's an entire article on UF athletics, I think the section in the main article is too big. I'm going to WP:BB and trim it down. Dave 05:50, 11 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Athletics 

message: If someone will go to the Almanac of American Politics he will find that in the current Congress Harvard has 41 members, Yale 20 and Georgetown 21. UF can claim to have more members than any public institution.
:Is that current, or total? JDoorjam 05:04, 14 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Members of Congress-UF trails Harvard, Yale and Georgetown

message: Does this sound funny to anyone or is it just me? Noted as the place where Gatorade was created, UF ranks first among public institutions and second among all institutions in the number of National Merit Scholar students enrolled. ArchonMeld 06:26, 13 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Intro

message: Many of the athletes listed as famous alumni are not actual graduates of the university (Jason Williams and Rex Grossman come to mind).  Is there any way we can verify who is and is not an actual alum? -- 68.214.107.198
:http://www.askoxford.com/concise_oed/alumnus?view=uk ¦ Reisio 07:50, 1 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's nice. ¦ Reisio 18:03, 1 August 2006 (UTC)

text: Read alumnus.  They are former students.  I don't know where to look up the dictionary of 'conventional American usage', but I think Merriam-Webster is a pretty good reference, and it says that an alumnus is a person who has attended or graduated from a school, etc. So, it seems that they should stay.  Regardless, this discussion should now move to List of University of Florida alumni. -- Bantab 05:30, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Athlete alumni

message: Why there is no mention of the recent racially motivated tasering incident? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 195.70.32.136 (talk) 11:19, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Somebody tasered somebody else and their sole motive was race?  Really?  Is there a source?  Is this story really significant enough to include in the article?  Will it really be relevant, say 3 months from now?  If the answer to all these questions is yes, maybe it could be added to the article.  Otherwise, please don't.  Ufwuct 17:41, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Censorchip? 

message: We do have quite a  few traditions, especially outlined in the recent comeback of our "F books".  Anyone have time to create a section on them?
70.153.211.187 02:23, 7 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Traditions 

message: The language regarding the Board of Governor's Report -- that "A recent report released by the Board of Governors noted that UF is the only Florida university that can claim to be a major national player." -- does not reflect the tone of the report's content.  I am going to revert the recent edit to re-insert the additional language "(and that none of the Florida universities can claim to be a leading national player)."
I have asked the anonymous editor who removed the language to address the change on this talk page.
Cka3n 22:38, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Without commenting on the specific issue raised above, it might also be helpful or even necessary to remember that this was a report issued to the BOG and not by the BOG.  It's a subtle but important difference.  --ElKevbo 22:52, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for the clarification regarding the source.  To tell the truth, I don't think there needs to be any reference to this report at all.  Universities receive reports like this frequently, and I don't see why this language (either the short or long version) is particularly important.  I had previously removed the reference altogether, and it got reinserted, so I added the language to make it a more accurate reflection of the report.  But, I would definitely support the reference again being removed completely.Cka3n 22:58, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Board of Governors report 

message: Just a note, that seal is no longer the official seal of UF. It is incredibly unfortunate, but the new seal (as seen at ufl.edu) is the UF letters with University of FLorida next to it. So, the motto is still legit, but that image is not the seal of UF anymore.
And it saddens me. 
Signed AmonHarakhte
::It is still the official seal of UF.  The seal is simply no longer a part of the Logo  The seal is still used on official documents etc.  But yes, I agree, the new Logo sucks. Aalox 13:11, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  UF's Motto 

message: Is this really Encyclopedic or needed on the general university page? Aalox 14:58, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I for one answer yes to both questions.  Yes, this is encyclopedic: it is significant enough of an event to have garnered national press attention.  (And, moreover, one of the meanings of the word encyclopedic is "comprehensive"—Wikipedia would surely be failing its obligations as an encyclopedia if it omitted an important development at a major research university).  And yes, it belongs in the main article: it's at least as important as recreation, if not more so.  How could we justify including information on picnic areas and open spaces—which are, strictly speaking, superfluous from the standpoint of education—and not a major development like the five year plan?  Job L 22:57, 3 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Didn't realize that it has national attention.  It's a current event that I feel 25 years from now would be a subsection of the History section.  See:  I just don't feel it should be a Main Section. Aalox 04:08, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be fine, I think, as long as it's still included somewhere on the page.  Job L 21:20, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Controversy surrounding the College of Liberal Arts and Sciences five year plan

message: The immediately prior version of this article included the statement that "UF is the only Florida university that can claim to be a major national research university."  There are several problems with including this statement.
First, the statement is posed as if the statement was made as a claim of Florida's strength; however, it was a strongly qualified claim.  The report the statement comes from was describing the previously poor state of Florida's universities research facilities, and in doing so it described Florida as the only Florida university that "could claim to be a major national player (and not a leading national player at that)."  (Emphasis added).  The quotation of only the first part of the phrase changes the sense of the report's statement.
Second, the report does not say that Florida is a major national research university; it says that it could claim to be one.  The report clearly could have stated that only Florida is a major national research university, but it did not do so, and to change its words is to change its meaning.
Finally, the report is not talking about the present tense.  It is talking about the time "when the state’s limited resources were more targeted at fewer research universities a number of years ago".  The implication is that, now that the limited resources are more spread out, the situation is more bleak.
Thus, I contend that this report cannot be used to support the positive claim that today Florida is a major national research university.
Cka3n 01:23, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Only major national research university? 

message: The article previously included the statement that "UF's undergraduates continue to have the highest GPA, SAT and ACT rankings in the state."  The claim was supported by the website http://www.admissions.ufl.edu/ugrad/frprofile.html, which is the University of Florida Freshman Profile.  That webpage, however, did not state that UF's undergraduates now have the highest GPA, SAT and ACT rankings (indeed, it didn't set any rankings forth), nor did it state anything about the history of such rankings.
Cka3n 19:25, 7 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That sounds pretty much like WP:OR to me (specifically, "synthesis").  If the statement is made then it needs to be supported and not taken for granted or assumed to be true.  --ElKevbo 06:20, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Highest in the state 

message: Hi there, folks.  There is a discussion currently underway at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Universities about the use of non-standard infotables on this and a few other articles on universities in Florida. I and a few other editors would support standardising to .  That infobox has widespread consensus among editors and is used on several thousand articles.  Editors here may wish contribute the the discussion at the WP:UNI talk page. If no issues are raised, the infobox here will be standardized. — mholland (talk) 20:43, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Non-standard infobox

message: The active editors of this article (and the other University of Florida athletic articles) should greatly condense the football and basketball sections into the whole athletics subsection. All the specifics of the football program belong in the main Florida Gators football article, with a summary in Florida Gators, and an summary of that article should go into this articles athletics section. Pepsidrinka 01:02, 12 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Athletics 

message: There has been a lot of reverting of the bolding of random figures in this article in the last month. Articles must be written in the house style, including all text formatting. Continuing to ignore these style rules is considered vandalism. Cmprince 18:29, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Text formatting 

message: This article needs extensive copy editing.  It still reads like a marketing brochure, and lacks references to reliable third party sources.  With work this could become a featured article. - Jehochman  Talk 10:08, 6 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  More Sourcing, Less Marketing 

message: **Note from WOverstreet
I am going to do what ever it takes to defend my alma mater.  If I get baned, then at least I know I went down fighting.  So many people tear into the University of Florida page it is unreal.  I know it isn't Yale, but I have been posting exactly what my sources indicate.  These sources are alittle over the top, however it is positive PR for UF.  Who are these people to judge if the rhetoric is not right?  If these are sources from a legitimate newspapers & journals, then what is the problem?  I think UF deserves ARBITRATION.
Thanks,
Jimmis  —Preceding unsigned comment added by WOverstreet (talk • contribs) 19:34, 7 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Please do not attempt to own this (or any other) article.  Work with us and express yourself constructively here in the Talk page.  And please do not edit war; you will not accomplish your goals.  --ElKevbo 16:25, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  To University of Florida Bashers 

message: I have reverted edits by User:WOverstreet because I felt that they contained weasel words and unnecessary POV. Please tell me if you agree or disagree with this. My revert to WOverstreet/User:161.253.37.233's edits. T Rex | talk 16:19, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: At a glance, I tend to agree with your edits.  However, I would recommend that an attempt be made to separate those edits that are truly controversial from those simply made at the same time.  Blanket reversions that include non-controversial material are not helpful or advisable.  --ElKevbo 16:27, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It seems as if WOverstreet is unlikely to be open to the idea of compromising. T Rex | talk 16:55, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Semi-dispute

message: how can the stated SAT median range be 1220-1390 when it states in the same section that most students score over 1400? these are cited, but i think the newspaper article has it wrong. either that or the stats are from different years or misstated.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.109.2.193 (talk) 05:32, 15 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  SAT scores 

message: I added the section about the tasing incident, and it lasted about 9 hours without incident before being removed (in good faith).  But soon after it was removed, the main text of the article began drawing inappropriate edits on the subject (in the lead, etc), so I've re-added it -- I think people expect to see some mention of it on the page.  (If it later fades from significance, it can be moved elsewhere.) Tlogmer ( talk / contributions ) 22:51, 18 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, even at the absolute very least there should be a link to the incident in the related articles section at the bottom.Ottawastudent 04:13, 20 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  tasing incident 

message: See Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/University of Florida Taser incident. Badagnani 05:10, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Deletion discussion

message: $2,719,638,048 is the Operating Budget for the University of Florida for 2006 - 2007  
On page 14 out of 250 it shows UF's operating budget  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.164.212.142 (talk) 20:43, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: UF's Operating Budget must be changed

message: The Student Government now has a 13.29 million dollar total budget.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.253.37.233 (talk) 15:44, 15 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Student Government now gets $13.29 million

message: Webometrics ranking of World Universities - UF: 21st Overall  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 161.253.37.233 (talk) 10:54, 18 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: UF Ranked 21st overall by Webometrics ranking

message: This college has been around for about 50 years.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jccort (talk • contribs) 21:37, 25 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: UF College of Public Health and Health Professions

message: I beleive a section on the campus should be added. Buildings, transportation, layout etc. Most othere university articles have a section on campus, why not this one.
Arigont (talk) 19:36, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add campus section!