Talk:Skipping-rope rhyme

message: Should there be a list of jump-rope rhymes here? Angie Y. (talk) 20:03, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably. JetLover (talk) (Report a mistake) 23:27, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: List of jump-rope rhymes

message: Are there sources for each of these rhymes?  Where did they come from? Buki ben Yogli (talk) 21:40, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: US in the 1940s: I recall that boys were sometimes invited (or whatever) to "jump in" on occasion. Probably when the girls jumping were too few during lunch "hour." The girls always owned the rope, though. And always turned the rope. Rope turners were reliable. No tricks as boys might play, except "as announced" as with "hot peppers." No boy ever brought a rope. It would have been unthinkable.
I've discovered that I can't remember many jumping chants, so boys can't have been invited very often! Student7 (talk) 02:43, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Boys jumping

message: No analysis is quoted here. Kind of like dancing. Children are displaying/exercising their agility. Girls more agile/flexible than boys, even then! Student7 (talk) 02:43, 29 January 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Dexterity/Agility

message: The chant I remembered goes "Salt, vinegar,mustard, pepper. How many legs does a spider have. (counting from one as player skipped)" But the first line is coupled with another verse in the references. The second must have had some other lead-in. Not that any of these had to make sense!  :)  Student7 (talk) 14:18, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Memory of another

message: Why and where may this article contain original research? How should it be cleaned up? Hyacinth (talk) 11:39, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Please see the substantially identical discussion at Talk:Apples_and_Bananas#Additional_citations. - SummerPhD (talk) 16:54, 10 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm talking about this article. Are you saying the concept of a skipping-rope rhyme isn't notable? That seems pretty ridiculous. Hyacinth (talk) 00:19, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: "This article may contain original research. Please improve it by verifying the claims made and adding references. Statements consisting only of original research may be removed. More details may be available on the talk page." This articles specific tag says that some of the material needs sources to show that it is not original research.  (Although yeah, without substantial coverage in reliable sources no subject is notable.) - SummerPhD (talk) 01:59, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Which material specifically? If you go to Template:Original research you'll find that "This template should not be applied without explanation on the talk page, and should be removed if the original research is not readily apparent when no explanation is given." Hyacinth (talk) 02:29, 11 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Here's an explanation: Various rhymes are listed as coming from various dates with various meanings. I propose that each of these elements may be OR: how do we know they are from the eras stated or have the meanings/usages discussed. ("Gee, I remember this one from when I was a kid, it must be 'from' that time period." or "It seems to me it's about...") - SummerPhD (talk) 02:55, 11 March 2012 (UTC)

text: In support of SummerPhd, each one of these rhymes should have at least one footnote. Rather, they seem to be from people's memories or copied from another website. The footnotes, ultimately, should be from something reliable. Not a blog chronicling a stroll down someone's memory lane. And we need to watch potential copyvio. Student7 (talk) 13:20, 14 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: So each rhyme needs a  tag? Hyacinth (talk) 00:15, 15 March 2012 (UTC)

text: I suppose. That was what the article tag at the top was supposed to avoid. It usually winds up like this with us discussing it. But each rhyme rather needs a . Student7 (talk) 16:59, 15 March 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: What usually winds up like "this"? Hyacinth (talk) 02:49, 7 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Original research

message: Some people have added children's (or adult) rhymes without seeming to apply them specifically to jumping rope. In a true jump rope ditty, there was either a count (usually) or a point to jump in or out. For the theoretical Lizzie Borden rhyme, we should see, "how many whacks did she give them?" (one, two, three, etc. as the jumper was successful in passing over the rope) Otherwise, no point. Another such was "how many legs does a spider have?" Red hot pepper was different because the turners tried to turn as fast as possible while still coordinating with each other. But this sort of ditty was different. Student7 (talk) 18:02, 26 April 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Three years later - still think the "Lizzie Borden" chant unsuitable for jumping rope. Too gristly for kids IMO. (Great for adult political commentary). Student7 (talk) 23:22, 2 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Reality check

message: As of the most recent edit, the article claims that .
This conflicts with personal observation.
If there is a reliable source to back up an attempt to discontinue the chants, then the paragraph needs to be rewritten to reflect the fact that the source itself has been overtaken by history.  davidwr/(talk)/(contribs) 20:56, 27 November 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chants are still in use 

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