Talk:Micro ISV

message: I give you: small Smalltalk shops (never a connection to Microscoff) - small Prolog shops (never a conx to MScoff) - individual Rebol developers such as the FLASH dialect used by a $ kids website.  
Or did F# magically redeem Redmond as a language innovator (I scoff.)
Eric Sink is old enough to have used R:Base or Paradox PAL or VermontViews in a Borland C tiny-shop?  Delphi?  DbaseIII+ ?
How does an article such as this stand so long untouched by an editor?  Adobe anyone? FlexBuilder?  DabbleDB ?
G. Robert Shiplett 16:33, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Microsoft promo or encyclo article? 

message: Which Bob Walsh? a reference, please (see ref #2)
Ward Cunningham ? (Smalltalk)
Reichart K. von Wolfscheild ? (Rebol)
Avi Bryant (dabbledb.com Squeak Smalltalk and trendly.com )
Without touching Python or Ruby folks outside IronRuby and IronPython.
Or do these Micro-ISV's all use MS VisualStudio by definition as "Microsmall-ISV" ?
G. Robert Shiplett 16:41, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  people 

message: Open Software Foundation.
Gnu.
European developers agaist software patents.
St Petersburg software developers (see ru.wikipedia.org) using Borland Turbo Prolog (never any connection to Microsoft, Oracle, Adobe, Google, Mozilla.)
First free software language: SNOBOL - used by a great many individuals.
First CEO to fight Micro-ISV's as a business model threat was arguably Bill Gates of Microsoft (see their acquisition of subLogic and their settlement with the original DOS authors.)
First micro to lie about their software's features and/or readiness to a large corp: Gates to Ricoh.
Second: Gates to IBM.
My personal fave for falsehoods and deception: tiny Paisley to a Canadian bank (Cokato, MN). Most successful since? One guess. But now has 10+ staff, so no longer micro (now a Thomson-Reuters division.)  Tiny Paisley provided the Windows audit package to Enron's auditors 
ref: http://www.linkedin.com/pub/joe-reo/7/937/207  cf: Paisley User Forum, Linkedin.com via google
http://www.google.ca/search?q=Paisey+User+Forum+site:linkedin.com
Challenge:
Name twenty ISV who were 10+ in their sixth month of incorporation in 1985.  Peter Norton of the Norton Editor? Underware (authors of brief.com ) ?
G. Robert Shiplett 16:57, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  See Also 

message: While we might want to see more in India, Africa and China, mISV are almost the norm in Slovakia, Slovenia, Bulgaria and other Balkan (and also Baltic) countries in Europe.
example: non-Microsoft language but product on Windows: Strawberry Prolog email anti-spam at dobrev.com in Sofia.
G. Robert Shiplett 17:44, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Prevalence 

message: Examples of specific mISV's having their own "DevCon" may be www.pdc.dk conferences or those prior to 2009 of www.rebol.com
mISV as university "spin-off": www.curl.com from MIT
G. Robert Shiplett 17:48, 6 November 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Conferences held by micro-ISV's 

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