Talk:Bali Nine

message: In accordance with Longhairs comments that links on the Schapelle Corby wiki were unecyclopedic I have removed the external links from this wiki too.Bluetongue 23:35, 14 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks. Saves me doing it myself ;) -- Longhair\talk 09:54, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where would the world be without you!?!??! Bluetongue 21:55, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know. You're slipping on the assumption of good faith once again. Perhaps a read over What Wikipedia is not and External links will help settle your obvious frustrations with my edits. The community as a whole creates the policies in force here; I only enforce them. -- Longhair\talk 22:41, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: I won't review the GA nomination now, but the article appears to be incomplete in that it does not clearly state what happened to the Bali Nine at the end of the appeals process. Are they serving their sentences? Where? When can they expect parole, if any? Sandstein 06:53, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA note 

message: I am glad to report that this article nomination for good article status has been promoted. This is how the article, as of October 21, 2007, compares against the  six good article criteria:
:1. Well written?: Most of the article is well written in clear language.  However, for readability sake and per WP:LEAD, please merge shorter paragraphs together, lead should be no more than 4.  Also, please try to merge shorter paragraphs (less than three sentences) together in the other sections of the article. The Criminal History section is out of chronological order, and should be moved up further in the article.
:2. Factually accurate?: Article is referenced to (50) good sources, looks like most used WP:CIT.  Sections Pre-arrest history and Pre-trial investigation, however, are missing some cites at end of paragraphs for verification, so please add these before your next step in quality review, which should not be WP:FAC, but another WP:PR, in my opinion.
:3. Broad in coverage?: Article is thorough, covering many aspects of the proceedings.  However, per 's comment, please expand the Appeals section with more detail, as well as more sources, in order to improve the quality of the article.
:4. Neutral point of view?: Article does seem to be phrased in neutral language, simply stating the events as they occurred.
:5. Article stability? Minor anon edit concerns, but looking back several months these are usually addressed quickly.  I also saw some nice civility in talk page discussion.  No issues here.
:6. Images?: 4 images used in the article.  All have fair use rationales. Please add subsection headings to the image pages: "Licensing" above the license tags, and "Fair use rationale" for the rationales.
If you feel that this review is in error, feel free to take it to Good article reassessment. Thank you to all of the editors who worked hard to bring it to this status, and congratulations. 
— Curt Wilhelm VonSavage 10:20, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Look on the bright side...at least you and other taxpayers wont be footing the bill for their luxury accomodation in Aussie jails! WikiphyteMk1 (talk) 11:21, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Successful [[Wikipedia:Good articles|good article]] nomination

message: This section requires an update. The arrests took place in early 2006 so it's possible information is available on the outcome of the matters. -- Longhair\talk 23:08, 19 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Related arrests

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message: This is of relevance to both here and the Scott Rush page but I might as well ask here since it's likely to receive more intention. Has there ever been any clear evidence whether Scott Rush was informed he was under surveilance? The information in the article is somewhat unclear. I would be surprised if he was informed but "Mate, we could not stop him, they have let him go through and he's on his way to Bali" seems to suggest to me he may have been Nil Einne (talk) 01:33, 11 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Scott Rush 

message: An unreferenced section tag for a section that should really be referenced and the prose is not quite up to GA standard (all the "on 13 February 2006", "on 6 September 2006" paragraphs in the lead and extensive quotes under reactions). Someone should probably look into giving the article a good copyedit or it could be delisted. AIRcorn (talk) 18:22, 29 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA status 

message: The execution date is set for just after the stroke of midnight on Wednesday April 29. The men will be tied to wooden planks in a field and shot on Death Island. http://www.smh.com.au/world/bali-nine-pair-chan-and-sukumaran-choose-their-execution-witnesses-20150427-1mu618.html 31jetjet (talk) 06:06, 27 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: So nothing else on the other nationals executed (or the one Filipino pardoned because she had kids), but there is a whole article devoted to those Australians imprisoned? There is apparently a sizable number of foreigners arrested on drug charges in Indonesia, but the wiki feels the need to trivialise information the others because a few Australians were among the mix? Way to reinforce the systemic bias this fucking wiki (and the western-centric media they reference) has had for years. I'm done with this place. - 118.101.202.173 (talk) 10:07, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: "Fucking wiki" you said, and yet, you still come here? :v -Veracious (talk) 08:27, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Execution Date 

message: Now that the executions have taken place, according to BBC News, could the article explain why Australia didn't conduct the spec-ops rescue raid? As part of the Five Eyes treaty, Oz is entitled to special perks like Silent Hawk (Laden-raid) choppers o V-22 convertiplanes loaned from the USA. Certainly Oz is a major military power and could have shock'n'awed the indonesians in a publicly humiliating manner. 82.131.152.229 (talk) 20:56, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The Talk Pages are not a forum for (obviously irrational) discussion of the subject, but for the use of Reliable Sources for the improvement of the article.  Please take your suggestions of an act of war blather to some blog or other place where loon theories can be discussed. HammerFilmFan (talk) 07:21, 30 April 2015 (UTC)

text: No country is in a rush to rescue (let alone go to war for) self-proclaimed heroin dealers. Australia doesn't have the backing of any other major power to do this either. The United States is allies with both countries and wouldn't support violating sovereignty in order to save felons.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 131.156.157.19 (talk) 18:11, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zero dark 39. 

message: Would this paragraph complement the information for the page and improve it ? I feel both subjects: the role of the police and the juges bribes allegations are important additions of information. If so can someone please add it as I can not edit the article. I have provided sources. Thank you.
== Post-execution controversy ==
=== Role of the Australian police ===
The role of the Australian police is debated as it triggered the arrests. Some argue that, indeed, it may have been preferable to challenge traffickers on arrival in Australia to avoid the death penalty.
=== Corruption by the judges and bribes allegations ==
According to Fairfax Media, April 27, 2015, information emerged that challenge the conditions of the trial, that seem increasingly opaque with elements of corruption, more precisely of bribes paid to Indonesian judicial authorities, in order to reduce sentences to less than 20 years in prison. Former lawyer of Andrew Chan and Myuran Sukumaran declared that the original amount asked was $ 130,000 Australian dollars, but two weeks before they were due to be sentenced, the "deal" failed and backfired triggering a request for the death penalty. Julie Bishop, Australia's Minister for Foreign Affairs expressed her concern over the allegations involving the questioning of the integrity of the judicial process.
References
Thank you for considering. --Anxe Lytton (talk) 13:16, 29 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The role of the AFP is already discussed at the start of the section "Reactions in Australia". I have added the part about bribery, however. Stickee (talk) 02:06, 30 April 2015 (UTC)
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