Talk:List of AMD Phenom processors

message: The article (and even AMD's page) mentions this processor as Black Edition, although it is not. I think AMD mistyped it in their list. Just read some user's testimonials . This should be changed (as AMD's page).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.95.56.75 (talk) 02:14, 12 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Phenom II x2 550 C3 Black Edition?

message: The table in the article states that "Regor" (45 nm, dual-core) supports DDR3-1333, but at least officially Regor only supports up to DDR3-1066!!!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.140.201.40 (talk) 13:23, 10 February 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Mistake on Regor-table

message: I noticed in the other CPUs they include virtualization support under supported features... This isn't listed here and i checked on the AMD website that phenom does support this. Should we add Virtualization to the list of supported features? 96.224.200.232 (talk) 07:05, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I added AMD-V to lists for all the processors on this page except for the Sempron. That's what the article on AMD-V states and my Athlon 7850 does indeed support it. I couldn't find a reference on their website; if someone has one, please add. Otus (talk) 07:40, 6 October 2009 (UTC)

text: Do never trust the AMD product comparison page - there are just too many detail errors there. There's no reason to believe it doesn't support Virtualisation. --Denniss (talk) 13:57, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Virtualization

message: I put the Athlon 6-series processors on this page because they are not based on the Athlon 64.  They are based on K10.  Therefore, since this page is a list of K10 based processors, they should be on this page.  Athlon 64's are based on K8, which is a different uArch.  Also, in the future when you propose a split, it would be nice to put something on the talk page. -- Imperator3733 01:44, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: First, I do not intend to flame you.  My point is although Kuma will be sold under the Athlon X2 brand, it is more similar to the Phenom processors.  It is quite unfortunate that AMD is already using the Athlon X2 brand, because otherwise I would have no problem with spliting this into List of AMD Phenom microprocessors and List of AMD Athlon X2 microprocessors.  Currently, List of AMD Athlon X2 microprocessors redirects to List of AMD Athlon 64 microprocessors.  Maybe what we could do is change List of AMD Athlon X2 microprocessors to non-redirect and have a  tag on the section about the Brisbane (K8-based) Athlon X2 processors pointing to the List of AMD Athlon 64 microprocessors section on The Athlon X2s.  The rest of the article could then have the Kuma processors, and the Phenom processors could be in List of AMD Phenom microprocessors.  This page could then redirect to the Phenom article, and have a note at the top of that page saying that the Athlon 6-series processors are at List of AMD Athlon X2 microprocessors.  What do you think?  -- Imperator3733 15:21, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: While this maybe true for identifying the uArch of the processor, but the same goes for K8 and K10 series of Opteron processors, the Athlon X2 processors came from Athlon 64 X2, AMD decided to scrap the "64" label to downplay the significance of 64-bit computing, so the brand is inherented from K8 generation to K10 generation when AMD uses the brand for dual-core processors. I think Wikipedia put more focus on the product brandings instead of the technical side of the product, while I am not saying that the technical stuff would be avoided, but instead it occupies only for a small portion. And I think following the same pattern as previous articles is best for readers, I have no objection for the split of the list in this article and the list in Athlon 64 processors list to the List of AMD Athlon X2 processors, "if and only if" the Athlon X2 will bacome a "larger product line" (e.g. more than 10 models), otherwise appending to the last subsection is my choice. --202.40.157.145 02:59, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Kuma has now been moved to List of AMD Athlon X2 microprocessors.  I'll do the others soon.  -- Imperator3733 16:24, 24 October 2007 (UTC)

text: This article has now been renamed to List of AMD Phenom microprocessors. -- Imperator3733 17:48, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed split

message: Was the 9600 Black Edition really launched on November 19, 2007?  I thought that it came later than that.  Maybe I'm mistaken, but I think all previous Black chips were released after their non-Black counterparts.  -- Imperator3733 (talk) 01:23, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Official release seems to be December 19, 2007.  (german) --Denniss (talk) 13:12, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  9600 Black Edition release date 

message: I just moved all the sections with  labels to List of future AMD Phenom microprocessors.  -- Imperator3733 (talk) 01:41, 27 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Separate article for future chips 

message: Somehow the article needs to denote the difference that the "Black Edition" brings.  Previous attempts to denote the difference have been erased.  It is very relavent to the article and should be included somehow.  Quovatis (talk) 16:17, 20 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Black Edition Notes 

message: Can someone please add flags of which units have TLB bug and which do not?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 195.24.71.50 (talk) 11:48, 9 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Simple, all desktop B2 revision chips are TLB-bug infected.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.218.194.137 (talk) 20:50, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

text: There's no point in marking bugs... the TBL bug is only one that people know of and Intel also has it in one of their revisions. What you need to know, as was said above, is the revision. If you get an older revision, skip it or ask for a product from the newer revision. Em27 (talk) 16:03, 6 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  TLB bug markings 

message: Wondering whether there is a glitch either in the table or at the AMD cpu comparison pages, as
the latter seem to suggest that there is an (exactly one!) X3 model 8750 made for Socket 940.
This would be OPN-PIB HD875ZWCGHBOX, or OPN-Tray HD875ZWCJ3BGH.  Anybody know if this is accurate? Hupasiyas (talk) 01:20, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Lots of errors (and incompetence) at the AMD products website, look at the 140W 9950BE as this OPN is incomplete. Both the 8750BE and 8750 are AM2+. Even if you mail them and point them to these errors they won't get fixed. --Denniss (talk) 18:17, 25 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Phenom X3 8750 Socket 940? 

message: So far as I can tell the 8450e (HD8450ODJ3BGH) and 8250e (HD8250ODJ3BGH) have been discontinued. If this can be confirmed it would be useful to add this to the table. --212.58.42.4 (talk) 18:05, 21 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discontinued models 

message: I am confused by the Barcelona, Shanghai, Istanbul names. Someone knowledgeable cares to add this bit of info at the right place?
: See List of AMD Opteron microprocessors. --Vossanova o< 20:19, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  City Names

message: What are your opinions on creating two separate lists for Phenom (AM2+) and Phenom II (AM3 with a couple exceptions), and their respective Athlon/Athlon II equivalents?  I think it's fair to say AMD treats them as separate brands in the same manner that Intel treats Core/Core 2/Core i? as separate ones. --Vossanova o< 20:23, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Better split off the phenom-based Athlon X2, Athlon II and Sempron and keep the Phenom in one list. We could use List of AMD K10 microprocessors for the others (currently a redirect to this list). --Denniss (talk) 20:43, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be fine with either keeping all "Phenom" processors together but separate from "Athlons" for example, or splitting everything up (such as keeping Phenom and Phenom II separate).  Any work done in an all-K10 list should include everything, however, as I don't support the equation of K10 = "Phenom."  Sempron 140:Phenom::Celeron 440:Core, and List of Intel Core 2 microprocessors doesn't list any Celerons whatsoever.  98.234.155.190 (talk) 07:16, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split Phenom/Phenom II lists? 

message: The Athlon II 215 is likely a cut down Deneb and not a Regor, but there aren't any good sources which I could find.
Also there is a Denab based Athlon X2 Dual-Core Processor 5000+ which I know has been successfully unlocked to a full quad-core Deneb.  There should be some mention here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Stardude82 (talk • contribs) 21:05, 17 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: X2 215 is a Regor, at least with the C2 there's no question here. It's easily identifyable by the OPN ending in GQ, no other Core has this. I don't think the C3 version would be based on both, Regor with partially disabled L2 or partially disabled quadcores but you'll never know as they now all use OPN GM. --Denniss (talk) 21:23, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

text: I don't agree that the OPN is a valid way to determine this.  For instance, there are Propus (GI) built on Deneb and Propus dies, only distinguishable from the serial number!  Stardude82 (talk) 14:59, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

text: However, the 215 has the same stepping code (NAEIC) as the rest of the Regors.  So it looks like it really is a crippled Regor.  Stardude82 (talk) 15:09, 18 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Athlon II 215 and AMD Athlon X2 Dual-Core Processor 5000+ 

message: How come N36L is not listed? It is being shipped to end users for months now.
--Xerces8 (talk) 08:45, 3 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  N36L not listed ? 

message: Phenom II P650 (HMP650SGR23GM) has other TDP listed here (35W, not 25). Maybe this affects other models too, I didn't check. 178.94.122.36 (talk) 10:36, 23 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mismatched info 

message: Currently, the article intro describes only the first-generation Phenoms, which seems insufficient for a list of all K10 CPUs.  It's also somewhat poorly written.  207.62.246.20 (talk) 01:27, 3 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I tried to address this to a degree in the edit I just saved, but it just points more to the fact that this article should either be renamed and repurposed as an actual list of all the K10 CPUs (including Opterons), or that each of the CPU series (Phenom, Athlon X2, Phenom II, Opteron, Sempron, Turion, etc.) should be broken out into their own lists based on branding and not combined.  For example, currently, the list of Athlon 64 X2s in List of AMD Athlon 64 microprocessors is separate from the Athlon X2-branded CPUs in List of AMD Athlon X2 microprocessors, which makes sense to me.  I don't know why the Kumas are listed here and also in List of AMD Athlon X2 microprocessors, etc.  98.234.155.190 (talk) 07:04, 1 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article intro needs updating 

message: The 1075T BE should be removed. It is not an actual product.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.82.143.25 (talk) 19:43, 10 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  1075T BE 

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message: Only til DDR3-1066 MHz? Why is that? "Rena" and all the other Athlon II CPUs in the Athlon II family supporting up til PC3-10600 (DDR3-1333 MHz). Also https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athlon_II states otherwise.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.135.137.230 (talk) 15:18, 6 September 2017 (UTC)
thread_title: Memory support for Athlon II X2 "Regor"

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message: Is there a reason why benchmark figures are not listed in any of the tables? I think the information, even if only indicative of approximate performance, would be useful.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Laczik (talk • contribs) 11:48, 20 January 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Benchmark figures 

message: The mobile tables seem to lack coordination with those in other lists. 217.162.74.13 (talk) 17:23, 25 January 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mobile tables