Talk:Roger Cribb

message: From the material being compiled, chronclogically (above), it would seem tDr Roger Cribb's professional career might be generally portrayed and arranged as:
i.  an initial period as an active scholar within the academic world, starting with his scholarship with the University of Queensland in the 1970's, then entering the University of South Hampton under archaeologist Colin Renfrew, generally obtaining academic funding and support, and successfully publishing in the academic arena, with his participation in this 'world' peaking during the mid 1980's 
ii. a  later period as an applied archaeologist increasingly engaged in an Aboriginal world largely removed from academia, academic insitutions, and academic publications, instead developing far more ethnographic relationships with the Aboriginal peoples and Aboriginal institutions and Aboriginal networks of North Australia, particularly North Queensland, lending his skills, effort and experience to those peoples and their causes.
By so dividing Rogers professional career in this manner, and documenting/presenting his contributions as a professional archaeologist and ethnographer of 'nomadic' peoples, it seems possible to:
i.  describe the intial 'academic' period as one of daring feildwork and pioneering practical, applied 'ethnographic' methods, data collection, and spatial analysis of nomadic peoples lifestyles - including significant early work in the design, development and use of purpose-specific softwares ... some of the impacts of which, can be traced through the ongoing citiation of this work into the present
ii. describe the later 'applied' period as one of increasingly ethnographic feildwork and identification with the subject peoples with whom he was working, and an increasing disassociation with the more academic world .. working instead with Aboriginal institutions and conducting a large number of consultancies .. with very practical and real ramification in the 'unpublished' world .. some of the impacts of which can be traced through the nature and extent of formal record he had made of Aboriginal heritage, to the current and future benefit of the actual people whose heritage it is, in addition to the more academic community of scholars who with an interest in nomadic and/or hunter-gather peoples..
Bruceanthro 06:06, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It occurred to me that the single, overarching and most enduring contribution Dr Roger Cribb made as an ethnoarchaeologist (see also Lewis Binford) was to record the cultural landscapes of some of the more mobile and/or nomadic peoples of the world (living in some of the most sparsely occupied parts of the world), and to increase the visibility of these mobile people's cultural landscapes amongst all those archaeologists, anthropologists, governments, and corporations with whom he had dealings: constantly searching for, and developing methods to reveal and depict the spatial patterning of the socio-cultural systems of first the nomads of Turkey and Iran; then the Aboriginal peoples of Cape York Penninsula's west coast; and, finally, the Aboriginal people's of north-east Queensland (around Cairns). Bruceanthro 21:47, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed thematic structure 

message: (a)  Shall here list and annotate books reviews, plus citiations arising from Roger Cribbes 'academic' contribution, particularly in relation to the 'archaeology of nomads'
(b)   Shall also list here estimate of extent and range of his recording of Aboriginal archaeological and anthropological heritage etc arising out of Roger Cribbs 'applied' work, particularly along the west coast of Cape York Penninsula, and in the regions around Cairns.
Bruceanthro 07:43, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It occurred to me that the single, overarching and most enduring contribution Dr Roger Cribb made as an ethnoarchaeologist (see also Lewis Binford) was to record the cultural landscapes of some of the more mobile and/or nomadic peoples of the world (living in some of the most sparsely occupied parts of the world), and to increase the visibility of these mobile people's cultural landscapes amongst all those archaeologists, anthropologists, governments, and corporations with whom he had dealings: constantly searching for, and developing methods to reveal and depict the spatial patterning of the socio-cultural systems of first the nomads of Turkey and Iran; then the Aboriginal peoples of Cape York Penninsula's west coast; and, finally, the Aboriginal people's of north-east Queensland (around Cairns). Bruceanthro 21:47, 7 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archaeological and Anthropological Contribution 

message: Following in 'in progress' first draft narrative for the material and themes above .. to be cut and paste into article when it starts to take form. Bruceanthro 01:44, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Draft 'Narrative' 

message: Dr Cribb's life's work was that of a practical, applied social scientist who firmly believed a structural functionalist anthropology, grounded and parsimoniously applied, could reliably reach beyond the academy's accumulated knowledge of the world, into the archaeological pasts of some of the oldest cultures of some of our world's most sparsely populated regions: ie the nomadic pastoralists of Anatolia (Turkey) and the gatherer-hunters of Cape York, (Australia).
His applied research methods required intensive 'ethnographic' fieldwork living with the cultural descendants of those peoples into whose heritage he wished to 'dig'; mixed together with purpose designed computer storage of data; plus, where practical, small, purpose designed, economic and efficient computer programs to analyze stored data and distill, reveal, confirm, plus extrapolate back in time and outwards in space, unique, underlying socio-environmental organising principles and patterns.
It is perhaps an unfortunate aspect of his researh career that, mid-career (towards the end of the 1980's), for mental and physical health reasons, he found himself without academic patronage and funding, increasinly disengaged with the academy, increasingly overtaken by rapid developments in computer technologies, and having to pursue his work from the fringes of more commercially driven (less 'pure') corporate research striving as an irregular heritage consultant to work closely with those people's with whom he had formed some of his closest professional and personal ties.
There can be no doubt any version of the colonial myth of 'terra nullius' offended Dr Cribb's deeper sense of a prior, unrevealed human heritage still written into the landscapes of otherwise sparsely populated regions of the world.  Perhaps, then, it can be said that Dr Cribb's most enduring professional contribution might have been in the work he did to counter any colonial sense of 'terra nullius' by focusing the academy's and state's attention, laying down foundations, and  starting the work of revealing the real nature and extent of some vast and dense archaeological landscapes still persisting in Anatolia (Turkey), and Cape York (Australia). Bruceanthro 02:49, 13 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Overview

message: * searching for organising principles and patterns
* searching for stable, persistent principles and patterns in social organisation
* searching for stable, persistent principles and patterns in landscapes
* computer programming, computer analysis and computer modelling, with parsomony
* predicting backwards into impoverished aracheological past from richer ethno-graphic present
* sparsely populated, apparently 'empty' landscapes as incsribed sufaces, which he worked hard to better see and read with the assistance of the cultural descendants of the generations of people who had lived in, and left their imprint within those landscapes
* hidden histories of generations of learning and adaption, hidden within otherwise sparse, landscapes apparently empty of human presence.
* valuing the apparent economy and affluence of less encumbered lives and lifestyles, as if gaining some glimpse back into a time before society became so burdened with all the trappings of contemporary, western life ..and, expecting this, searching for such less encumbered life.  Bruceanthro 03:37, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Revealing the [[Cultural landscape|Cultural Landscapes]] of [[Nomad]]ic Peoples'

message: * filling otherwise sparse landscape with history, practice and people many generations old, and extending the principles and models to reliable extent and predict upon memory and knowledge.  Bruceanthro 05:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Nomad#Pastoral Nomads|Nomadic Pastoralists']] Landscapes in [[Anatolia]], [[Turkey]]

message: encounters and concerns with heritage legislation
* encounters, concerns, and efforts at heritage awareness and management
* persistent and continuing efforts at ethno-archaeology with cultural descendants
* promoting role of heritage in cultural descendant's reclaiming their lands
* places located within their landscapes
* a true scholar unfavoured by academia, favouring the peoples he worked with, and establishing his own community of scholars.
* documenting heritage as a tool to 'repossess' indigienous peoples and the world with their heritage, his own challenge to terra nullius Bruceanthro 05:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recording and Reclaiming Our Nomadic [[Cultural heritage|Heritage]] 

message: Here I will refer:
* work with the Central Land Council and Marcial Langton, developing gentree software for documenting Aboriginal relationship charts for Aboriginal land claims under the Aboriginal Land Act
* work with Tharpuntoo Legal Service documenting Kondoparinga and Ngarrabullgan as an archaeological and cultural landscape of value, to be purchased and ownership restored to the Kuku Djungan Aboriginal peoples
* work with Yirrikanji people documenting archaeological and anthropological values to see long term heritage protection, and lands restored to Yirrikandji people
* work within Tharpuntoo Legal Service the Hopevale Community to see archaeological landscapes within Aboriginal council lands managed and protected, within negotiations with Mitsubishin and Cape Flattery (including Leslie Deveraux and Bruce Rigsby)
* work with Cape York Land Council, including assistance 'revealing' kinship patterns to assist claim to Lakefield National Park under the Aboriginal Land Act
* visit to Franklin Dam, to assist promote and advocate archaeological landscape protection in relation to Franklin Dam and world heritage dispute
* work modelling, developing, documenting and recording heritage and heritage landscapes within the Wet Tropics World Heritage Area, involving the likes of Henrietta Marrie, Nicky Horsfall, and others (must include reference to Wangetti management planning)
* involvement in the Skyrail heritage dispute .. Bruceanthro (talk) 05:09, 18 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repossessing Nomadic People's Cultural Heritage 

message: * lasting contribution is what he has left behind; once sparsely documented landscapes have been undeniably populated with heritage located within larger, more far reaching cultural landscapes Bruceanthro 05:40, 12 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Life's Work and an Ethno-Archaeological Record that will Endure