Talk:Cartagena, Colombia

message: The historical section is missing one of the landmarks on city's history: the siege or blockade of Cartagena by Pablo Morillo http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pablo_Morillo . This is a very important fact, as the people in Cartagena resisted and did not surrend, resulting on hundreds dying due to starvation. It is the reason why Cartagena is known in Colombia as "Ciudad Heroica": the heroic city. This brings me to the most important point: the whole article about Cartagena seems to be translated and edited by a Nationalistic Spaniard: too much emphasis is remarked on the defeats of British "invaders", and overlooking the well-known and referenced cruelty of Spanish army in Cartagena.  As a such, it does not meet the standards of Wikipedia in neutrality or avoiding conflicts of interest.    —Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.175.244.3 (talk) 14:50, 14 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: History of "Asedio de Cartagena 1815" by Pablo Morillo

message: How does the metropolitan area have a lower population than the city?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.11.15.120 (talk) 03:40, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Metro Area

message: I really didn’t like the fact that the places, neighbourhoods, and historic landmarks, which have their proper name in Spanish are being shown and translated to English. The least I’d expect would be to allocate the proper name and what it means in English. H.d.l. 06:58, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proper Names

message: the article lacks an outline of the economy and also the importance of his tourist industry and industrialization in the past years. Im doing some research, if you would like to help me your welcome to do so.--Don Quijote's Sancho 02:52, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: economy and tourism

message: I've shuffled things around a little. Cartagena now redirects to Cartagena, Bolívar. There is a Cartagena (disambiguation) page, which lists the 4 cities and towns named Cartagena. Cartagena, Colombia still redirects to Cartagena, Bolívar. I made this change because Cartagena in Colombia is by far the most important of the cities and towns named Cartagena. Argyriou (talk) 21:03, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Can't agree there.  I'm European (English) and over here, "Cartagena" (without qualification) means the city in Murcia.  We should do the same as the es wiki and have Cartagena as a dab page or redirecting to Cartagena (disambiguation). –EdC 14:26, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disambiguation 

message: See the discussion at Talk:Royal Navy#Battle of Cartagena and Talk:Battle of Cartagena de Indias#Battle of Cartagena for a discussion on the accuracy and validity of the numbers related to this battle. Woodym555 11:39, 5 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recent tagging 

message: This article is so badly written that some of its material is incoherent and therefore beyond verification.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.137.179.252 (talk) 14:45, 23 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: S when i began editing this it was already like that... in fact, i changed some stuff that were wrong, like the year of the inclusion on the UNESCO list. thanks anyway! Zlt60 (talk) 00:02, 19 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Verification / Plagarism] 

message: I've tagged a section of this article as it reads more like something from Wikitravel. In particular, things like mentioning "a good boutique hotel" should be moved across to that site; they are utterly inappropriate in tone and content for Wikipedia. Scyrene (talk) 17:56, 4 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tourist Guide Style 

message: This article is very sprawling and full of fascinating information.  However, it really needs to be tightened up.  Some data needs to be moved to separate subpages.  Also, some basic city facts, such as demographic data, needs to follow conventions used in other city summaries (example: they don't break down the ethnic background of the city population, nor age and employment data).
I would recommend alot of the historical city information (walled city history), be moved to a separate page. --68.51.72.144 (talk) 16:10, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article has potential 

message: This section has clearly been vandalized.  Will the original author please repair?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.168.194.119 (talk) 17:09, 16 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demography 

message: "On February 5, 1610, the Catholic Monarchs established the Inquisition Holy Office Court in Cartagena de Indias by a royal decree issued by King Philip II."
Maybe someone could correct this sentence (unfortunately, I feel that large parts of the historic section have been written in the same style):  The Catholic Monarchs died in 1504 and 1516, Philip II in 1598.  Of course these three people are the root of all evil, and it would easily go with their style to found the Court of the Inquisition, but the article on Cartagena should not be that obviously wrong.
Klaus  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.3.216.125 (talk) 07:02, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inquisition 

message: Seems like this should either be connected to US Secret Service or have it's own article. 
Javajunkiewa (talk) 20:51, 18 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Secret service scandal 

message: Under the Geography section, there are only five  neighborhoods listed: Northern area, San Diego, Getsemaní, Downtown, and Bocagrande.  However, Cartagena has over 120 neighborhoods including some of the most populated, like Olaya Herrera, population 55.000 (compared with Bocagrande's 10.000).  This section should be expanded to include a mention of the rest of Cartagena's neighborhoods.--Forich (talk) 16:56, 18 May 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Neighborhoods 

message: What do you think of adding a satellite view of Cartagena?--Forich (talk) 04:44, 4 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geography 

message: Reference to the time before Columbus landed has been spelled "pre-Colombian era" in this article, was recently changed to "pre-Columbian era", and now has been changed back to the former, which may or may not be the original spelling here. Since the relevant English adjective is "Columbian", which is used in the title of the Wikipedia article on the subject, I would expect that spelling to be appropriate here, as well. What is the consensus? Dhtwiki (talk) 12:35, 13 December 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Worked out by other editors. Consensus seems to be Columbian. See, for example, Pre-Columbian era. But a lot of similarly named articles. Colombian refers to the nation. {I can appreciate that it is confusing for this article). Student7 (talk) 23:18, 19 December 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Pre-Colombian" versus "pre-Columbian" when referring to the period before Columbus landed 

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replies: text: Link failed to be useful due to redirection. Have reworked reference, using earlier snapshot. Dhtwiki (talk) 09:02, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I've just reverted this article having been moved to "Cartagena of the Indies" (a translation of the official Spanish name of "Cartagena de Indias"). I think that renaming violates WP:COMMONNAME. Even some sources in Spanish refer to this city by its shortened title. The fact that "Cartagena" has been the article's title for some time, evidently without problem, only emphasizes the lack of the necessity for such a move. Dhtwiki (talk) 18:20, 7 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article title 

message: Substituted at 10:59, 29 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: It is not correct to state that "A prostitution scandal involving U.S. President Barack Obama's security detail received international attention and overshadowed the summit". The US news media may only have reported the scandal, but non-US sources were more balanced.Royalcourtier (talk) 02:13, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The first source, USA Today, is definite about the overshadowing ("The event overshadowed Obama's participation in the summit"). Do you have citations for that not being the case? Dhtwiki (talk) 09:07, 9 July 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Summit of the Americas 

message: The 'Torre del Reloj Público' section is almost identical to http://www.cartagena-indias.com/Lugares/reloj.html.  The google translation of the www.cartagena-indias.com site is actually better English than the wikipedia text which makes me wonder which was the original.  Either way this is a potential copyvio.
I actually found this article when looking for pirates vs privateers and "This construction was damaged during a British pirate invasion" should probably (citation needed) be a 'British backed privateer' instead of 'British pirate invasion' but that is a separate issue. Mtpaley (talk) 23:31, 9 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I see what you mean about the similarities between the texts. I think the caption, and it is just a caption, could be considerably reduced in size. I can't make out all of what the second reference there says (), so I'd dispense with it. The "pirate invasion" isn't supported by any reference I've seen, but it probably refers to the 1741 British siege. However, since that connection isn't in the sources, I'd dispense with it. Dhtwiki (talk) 21:47, 10 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Torre del Reloj Público 

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replies: text: Links #1, 3–5 work, but #3 seems of doubtful utility. Link #2 indeed seems dead, as marked. Dhtwiki (talk) 23:07, 16 November 2016 (UTC)
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message: I pared down as many photos as I could, but in the History section, because there are extensive captions for all the photos in that section, some of that text needs to be incorporated into the article before deleting the photos. Funandtrvl (talk) 23:32, 28 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photos in History section 

message: I have looked at the entries for other cities and it not standard to include the exact date of foundation of the city.  I propose we remove it from the lead, or change it so that it has more meaning: instead of "It was founded in 1533" change it to "It was founded in the mid 16th century, a period in which xxx and xxxx was going on".  It we can not find a historical context for the date, I propose we remove the date from the lead altogether, and leave it only in the body, in the "History" section. Forich (talk) 20:06, 20 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Date of foundation in lead? 

message: The Puerto Hormiga settlements are located in the Turbana municipality, not in Cartagena.  Either we supres the two paragraphs in the History section mentioning how Puerto Hormiga culture represents the early inhabitants of Cartagena, or we reduce its length in a major way.  Forich (talk) 18:13, 10 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Puerto Hormiga paragraphs