Talk:Bellevue, Washington

message: As soon as One Lincoln Center opens up we should add a full description. solaro 05:57, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This article uses election results for the city of Bellevue from past elections. The source cited for these results are the King County open data pages with the results. However, election results are only tallied by Precinct on that site, which makes it totally unclear exactly how this data was aggregated and is at least somewhat an original contribution. I could imagine exporting filtered results to a spreadsheet and then just adding up all the results starting with "BEL" and computing the ratios, but this leads to some concerns:
1) Is this too much original research for Wikipedia?
2) Is the methodology accurate, ie do we know that the precinct results selected completely reflect the entire sample set?
3) Related to concern 2, does it at all make sense to talk about election results by city when results are in fact only officially tied to precinct, county, and state?
It may at least be good to document the methodology used. KitsuneLogic (talk) 12:59, 15 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Election Results Source/Methodology

message: Truthfully, Bellevue is actually, the last time I checked, the FOURTH largest city in the state at this current time.  As a resident of Bellevue, I'm trying not to be biased, but I seriously doubt that Bellevue can be considered a suburb of Seattle.  Besides, you have to cross Mercer Island in order to get to Bellevue, which separates Seattle and Bellevue out in to two cities anyways.  I don't know, feel free to give your opinion on this.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Xela267 (talk • contribs) 
:This has already been covered in the section directly below this and here. As long as Bellevue is a smaller city than Seattle it will continue to meet the requirements of a suburb. --Bobblehead 06:23, 28 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Tacoma is also a smaller city than Seattle; does that make it a suburb of Seattle? Greg Lovern (talk) 17:39, 5 November 2019 (UTC)

text: This is an old section but just to set the record straight, there are no bridges between Seattle and Bellevue. The only bridge connecting Bellevue to another municipality is the East Channel Bridge to Mercer Island. The other I-90 bridges, Murrow and Hadley, do not connect to Bellevue. The Rosellini Bridge and its unnamed replacement connect Seattle to Medina, not to Bellevue. Ibadibam (talk) 20:40, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Tacoma is connected to Seattle by I-5; does that make it a suburb of Seattle? Greg Lovern (talk) 17:39, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Bellevue's NOT a suburb of Seattle

message: Bill Gates? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 198.187.154.33 (talk • contribs) 17:31, 17 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless he's moved, Bill's in nearby Medina, WA. --Bobblehead 00:43, 18 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its "cite", not site.  --DerRichter (talk) 08:55, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Famous Residents

message: for Famous Residents?? Anyone? There are some controversy here
alfiboy 21:46, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Ideally, anyone that has an article in Wikipedia or holds/held a prominent position in something with an article. As an example, the CEO of Safeco or member of a band with an article probably warrants mention, but a member of a local band that doesn't have an article probably shouldn't get a mention. Realistically, whoever doesn't get deleted by another editor warrants inclusion. May also consider removing the section complete and creating :Category:People from Bellevue, Washington. Famous people sections are generally just filler in an article. --Bobblehead 22:31, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: What's the criteria

message: Edited to re-add the form of government (with citation), which is more formally referred to as a "Council-Manager" than a "Weak Mayor" form of government, and to amend the description of the respective roles of the Mayor and City Manager, specifically: statements suggesting that the Mayor position is "weak" because influenced by "specific special interests;" that the City Manager's position is "mayoral;" that the City Manager is solely responsible for "framing political issues;" and that the selection of the City Manager receives "more attention" than the selection of councilmembers. These all seem to be statements of opinion best left out unless verifiable. Claudb 07:17, 4 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Form of Goverment/Role of Mayor and City Manager

message: There is some information about demographics in the culture section.  While demonstrating lots of foreign born residents, it should really be in the demographics section, which leads into the culture section anyways.  I will move these parts and cite the recent study  on diversity in Bellevue (more nonwhites than whites).--DerRichter (talk) 17:18, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Culture/Demographics Sections

message: I would just like to point out, as an amusing note, that this article cites wikipedia and doesnt actually make many claims of its own about what Bellevue is (other than that it is not a suburb).  Not that there's any problem with citing wikipedia vicariously through an independent source, but I just thought that was kinda funny. --DerRichter (talk) 18:48, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Citation #3

message: I think it's funny that that Bel-Red corridor section was put in by an unregistered user and I've been looking at the paragraph for 7 months and didn't notice the statement at the end.  I guess I should have kept this page on my watchlist --Kraftlos (talk) 09:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: I found this PDF map which show's bellevue's annexation history.  The list of names are a mix of family names and neighborhood names, I tried my best to distinguish between them just based on what I know of the area (I grew up here).  I've never heard of Woodridge or Longmont, but they checked out with the list.  I'm going to look for a simplified map, the city has them sometimes in their mailings.  --Kraftlos (talk) 10:16, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This one seems to simplistic.  --Kraftlos (talk) 10:18, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Woodridge is the name of the hill where Woodridge Elementary is; there is also a pool that goes by that name. I think the second map is more geographical than a map of neighborhoods; I've also never heard it referred to as Richards Valley and Newcastle, Washington is its own city now, separate from Bellevue and different from on the second map. --DerRichter (talk) 15:33, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've seen maps like that in their mailings that were slightly more detailed than the second one.  The first one has a ridiculous amount of detail.  --Kraftlos (talk) 08:37, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The second one has a ridiculous lack of detail.  Parts of King County are claimed to be City of Bellevue Subareas.  Eastgate, Washington for example, is not a Bellevue neighborhood.  Eastgate was never annexed into Bellevue.  kgrr talk 00:51, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Neighborhood names

message: I would like to point out that the article for Downtown Bellevue is completely unsourced (not even one external link or book), makes pov claims, and all of the relevant information it contains is already on this article.  I will nominate it for merger soon unless anyone else has anything to add. --DerRichter (talk) 08:53, 27 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Downtown Bellevue article

message: Is the intent to point to articles of only nearby "cities" or nearby "communities" - nearby cities, towns, CDPs and unincorporated communities.  So for example, west of Bellevue, there is the town of Beaux Arts Village, Washington but the surrounding cities compass lists Mercer Island, Washington as being the neighbor to the west.  Bellevue surrounds a CDP called Eastgate, Washington.  Its population is bigger than many of King County's smaller cities.  Thoughts?  00:36, 12 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I like it how it exists. It would be really difficult to create a similar graphic including small communities such as Clyde Hill, Hunts Point, etc. It currently includes the more significant neighbors. --DerRichter (talk) 08:59, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I have extended the navigation blocks towards the east side of King County - North Bend, Washington, but have included some of the smaller communities that are really CDPs or towns, not formal "cities" (referring to the form of government rather than the size of the community).  I can understand how in the inner part of King County, one would be interested in navigating through the major cities.  kgrr talk 11:20, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Surrounding cities

message: I'm moving to this Talk Page the following list of people claimed by the article to be natives and residents, until these can be properly sourced per WP:V:
* Shaun Alexander (Former Seattle Seahawks running back)
* Michael Allan (NFL player for the Kansas City Chiefs)
* Mark Arm (musician, Mudhoney)
* Jay Buhner (former baseball player for the Seattle Mariners)
* Joshua Caldwell (filmmaker)
* Kristen Cox (blind American politician)
* Yasmine Galenorn (urban fantasy author)
* Stone Gossard (Musician, Pearl Jam)
* Martin Harrison (NFL, American Football Player 1990-1999)
* Megan Hilty (Broadway actress)
* Jerry Holkins and Mike Krahulik (writer and artist of Penny Arcade, webcomic)
* Page Hopkins (Fox News anchor)
* Naveen Jain (founder, InfoSpace)
* Etty Lau Farrell (vocalist, Perry Farrell's Satellite Party)
* Tim Lincecum - (MLB, San Francisco Giants)
* Harvey Manning (noted author of hiking guides and climbing textbooks)
* Edgar Martínez (Ex-Mariners DH, third baseman)
* Craig McCaw (cellular phone industry pioneer)
* Alexey Pajitnov (developed Tetris)
* Jeff Probst - (Host of Survivor (TV series))
* Larry Sanger (Wikipedia co-founder)
* Detlef Schrempf (former NBA Basketball player)
* Jack Sikma (former NBA Basketball player)
* Layne Staley (musician, Alice in Chains)
* Richard Stearns (President of World Vision)
* John W. Stanton (founder/former CEO Western Wireless)
* Ichiro Suzuki (baseball player for the Seattle Mariners)
* Cuong Vu (Jazz trumpeter, b. 1969)
Nightscream (talk) 11:48, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Material in need of sourcing

message: What is the tallest building in Bellevue? I was driving through and with all the new buildings I didn't know if it had changed.67.183.50.127 (talk) 03:01, 15 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: What is the tallest building in Bellevue.

message: You can find in Bellevue the ArenaNet's offices. It is the city where Guild Wars 2 is being created.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 132.166.145.71 (talk) 14:44, 14 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: For the gamers

message: Bellevue can't be a satellite city, a boomburb and an edge city at the same time. A satellite city is a suburb with its own urban core, employment centers and bedroom communities, while a boomburb and edge city by definition don't have urban centers or bedroom communities. I lean towards Bellevue being a satellite city myself. D O N D E groovily Talk to me 18:52, 11 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: All the relevant pages have changed since you posted this comment, but I don't see how it can't be all of them at once. An edge city is a dense commercial zone in a formerly residential area, with more jobs than bedrooms, which Bellevue is. A boomburb is a rapidly growing area that remains suburban in nature. Bellevue is still mostly characterized by low-density subdivisions, car-centric transportation infrastructure, and shopping centers and strip malls, so it still has a dominant suburban character, although it has recently developed its own urban center. While Bellevue is geographically distinct from Seattle and has its own downtown, both characteristics of a satellite city, it hasn't retained its historic identity in the same way that cities like Tacoma have, doesn't really have its own bedroom communities (it shares these with Seattle, Redmond and Everett), and doesn't constitute its own core Census statistical area. Bellevue shares characteristics of all three, but doesn't perfectly fit any one definition. Ibadibam (talk) 17:55, 25 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Bellevue has retained it's historic downtown core, but you might not have noticed because it's very small; just a couple blocks or so along Main Street. That's because it was just a farming community before the I-90 bridge went in in 1940 and it suddenly became a booming Boeing bedroom community. Six years later Bellevue Square was built and became essentially the new downtown core. Of course the old farming supply stores aren't there anymore; it's gentrified. But it's still the same buildings.Greg Lovern (talk) 01:23, 31 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Satellite city? Boomburg? Edge city? 

message: The page on Seattle has an unsourced claim that it was 110 in Bellevue on the day in 2009 that Seattle set a record of 103. I've left a query there, because the two pages should be consistent. However, regardless of the answer to that, if the record high for July is 105, the year-round record cannot be 96 (or any temperature less than 105), so I'm going to edit the infobox to fix that in the meantime. Vicki Rosenzweig (talk) 05:06, 17 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Climate record 

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message: A neighborhood in Bellevue called "Spring" has been much in the news this past week in connection with REI's announcement that it plans to move its corporate headquarters there from its present, outgrown location in Kent. I've never heard of it, and the only thing I know is it must be near the projected light rail line. Puget Sound Business Journal article on the subject, to cite one reputable source. --Haruo (talk) 16:42, 31 March 2016 (UTC)
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message: Shouldn't it be the French for?--Adûnâi (talk) 16:58, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: No; frankly it sounds ignorant (and I believe is technically incorrect) to say "the French for".  I have changed the construction: "The name 'Bellevue' is derived from the French words for 'beautiful view'. General Ization Talk    17:07, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  French for vs the French for? 

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message: Looks like there are some weird formatting things going on in the climate section - could someone take a look at that? ChunyangD (talk) 07:11, 15 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fixing Climate section? 

message: Change "became available" to "was illegally seized from Japanese and Japanese American farmers and sold" 168.156.36.177 (talk) 01:06, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: Unfortunately, this was legal at the time. Please provide reliable sources for controversial edits like this one, and don't edit just to make a point. DannyS712 (talk) 01:58, 16 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 16 November 2018 

message: Regarding this:
"two alternative high schools, International School and Big Picture School (formerly known as Robinswood Alternative High School)"
First, Big Picture School in Bellevue is not "formerly known as" anything. It is in the building previously occupied by Robinsweed Alternative High School, but that doesn't mean it was formerly known as that. The two schools are unrelated except for the building used.
Robinswood Alternative High School was for underperforming students in danger of failing, and for students who had been expelled from other schools. 
Big Picture School in Bellevue is a choice lottery school for excellent students who want a more interesting challenge than that offered by other public schools. It doesn't have room for everyone who wants in. It emphasizes project-based learning and public speaking, and all high schools students there are required to do an internship. It's a more rigorous program than the standard Bellevue high schools, which are themselves excellent.
As for the underperforming & expelled students who had been previously at Robinswood, Bellevue no longer has a school for underperforming students in danger of failing. Instead underperforming students are now integrated in all Bellevue public schools, and disruptive students who previously would have been expelled to Robinswood are now handled within each school.
Second, in Washington State, "alternative school" is usually understood to mean those for underperforming students in danger of failing, and for students who have been expelled from other schools. Calling International School and Big Picture School "alternative" schools gives the wrong idea to Washington State readers. They are "choice lottery" schools for high-performing students.
The reason Robinswood had to be closed is that the requirements of "No Child Left Behind" federal legislation made it impossible for a school specializing in underperforming and expelled students to meet federal requirements. Robinswood met the needs of underperforming and disruptive students better than they are now being met with them integrated into all the schools, and integrating those students in all the other schools puts downward pressure on the performance of other students in those schools. Greg Lovern (talk) 21:18, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not alternative schools 

message: The photograph of the construction site illustrated the huge construction projects going on in Bellevue, which play a significant part in the Bellevue Economy, right now, and presage growth in the future. The construction site is significant for its size, which is evident from the photograph, as large pieces of construction equipment are visible in the excavation. You could say about many photographs, that there is nothing unique. Ahhh, who needs the picture of that park, just grass, trees and people like every other. But I'm sure that there are many photographs of parks, here, giving the reader a sense of a place. Construction projects give a sense of a place, too. Things are happening, dirt hauled away, concrete poured. It helps to show the state of Bellevue, as it stands now.Truth Is King 24 (talk) 23:24, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , Is this the link image that is under discussion? I see your point that this is representative of the city as it stands today. Is there a revision to the caption that you can think of? I think that this image does belong to the page -- a caption revision might be great. Good luck. Ktin (talk) 23:38, 6 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I'm sorry but it most certainly does not illustrate "the huge construction projects going on in Bellevue." It illustrates one construction site. One. There isn't even anything in the context of the photo that points to it even being in the topic city. It's a nondescript hole in the ground. Please provide a source for "the huge construction projects going on in Bellevue". Please cite a policy that supports your position on the efficacy of the photo's illustrative value. Again, it's a hole in the ground. And construction is booming all over the Northwest. This isn't a newspaper and it isn't a promotional vehicle for the city. John from Idegon (talk) 00:18, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not sure of the relevance of the newspaper statement, nor the promotional vehicle statement. But, with a minor revision to the caption, I think this image does belong to the page. If the intent of pictures on a city page is to illustrate the current state of a city, I can see why construction should be fair to represent. That is my perspective. I will stand down and let others weigh in. Good luck. Ktin (talk) 00:29, 7 September 2020 (UTC)

text: No, this is a bad image, sorry. There are construction sites in pretty much every major city in the world. This is not illustrative of the city of Bellevue; the reader does not gain understanding of the city by seeing an unremarkable hole in the ground. When the building is complete it will be one of several tall buildings in the skyline. Reywas92Talk 05:29, 7 September 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Photograph of construction site removed 

message: The transportation section has multiple issues. Apart from the failed verification and the who? tag, it reads as a list of disjointed topics (highway, rail, air) and it jumps back and forth between present, future, and past tense. I am finding the experience of reading it jarring and confusing, and I am also wondering whether the future, as written in the past, remains accurate. It would be nice to see the section revised in chronological order, in narrative form, and with each paragraph about 2–4 sentences in length. HussainHx (talk) 15:58, 9 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Transportation Section Needs Work 

message: The current article cites the 2000 census. Many other articles for cities I've seen have used the 2010 census. Perhaps update to the 2020 census? 2601:600:8D01:6CD1:4DBE:AC07:F72:D433 (talk) 20:52, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the categories in the 2010 census section have still not been fully released by the Census Bureau, at least not on a city-level basis. SounderBruce 21:47, 10 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographics needs updating