Talk:Vegeta/Archive 1

message: I don't understand why Vegeta calls himself the prince of all saiyans.  After his father, King Vegeta, is killed by Freiza, shouldn't Vegeta have become the new king of all saiyans.  Thats the way it usually works.  When a king dies, his heir to the throne, the prince, becaomes the new king.  However, Vegeta continues to call himself a prince even after his father is dead.  Why is that. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 141.157.66.57 (talk • contribs) 
:There's no answer ever given in canon, but the generally accepted theory among fans is that he had to go through a coronation or some other ceremony to make him official king. Thanos6 19:24, 16 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I think it's funny that he calls himself the prince of all Saiyans, when "all Saiyans" consists of an amnesiac and two or three halfbreeds who all more or less consider themselves human (and don't care in the least about his royal lineage). Onikage725 16:05, 7 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why is He Still a Prince 

message: Since it was requested that I discuss things here:
I fixed a large number of typos, and awkwards sentences, as well as repeated information, things out of order in the sequence they occurred in, and false information. Turles and Brolli are not canon, and should not be included in this article. Yajirobe cut off Vegeta's tail AFTER Gohan and Krillin came back. The name of the species is "Saiyan" not "Sayain". These mistakes and others were fixed, and will be re-fixed in just a moment. If you don't like people making changes to your edits, DON'T SUBMIT THEM. If you want to contribute, please spell-check before you do so. Please attempt to have a proper grasp of grammar and diction, and when an appropriate time is to place a sentence, as well as what sentences are unnecessary.
Thank you.
Daishokaioshin 05:05, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edits 

message: Technically, the name Z Fighters is never used in the series. Nor is Z Senshi. However, Z Senshi is the generally accepted group name for those who watch the Japanese original, and read the manga. I suppose for those who rely only on the english dub, Z Fighters is acceptable for them.
There is no reason to change it from Senshi to Fighters, but also no reason to change it back. In the future, if you're going to cite the series as a source, make sure that the series actually uses the name of something before making edits.
(If the narrator used the term 'Z Fighters' it's not really the same thing as one of the characters using it. I believe 'Earth's Special Forces' was the original name used by the narrator, even so.)
Daishokaioshin 04:20, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Z Senshi/Fighters 

message: I honestly don't at all see the specific point in mentiong non-canon movie villains in a section on Vegeta's childhood. I made a small edit in the childhood section to draw disinction between the survivors of Freeza's genocide and the movie-only villains. I made this distinction because if I flat out remove them, someone's just going to throw them right back in. And I'm also going to second the notion above that there are too many pics. 2 pics of Oozaru? Or any other transformation? There are transformation articles and a transformation section within this article. I think one (maybe two) pics in a saga section as a highlight would work fine. Vegeta fighting Ginyu? That fight was insanely short. Two pics of Vegeta scowling at Gohan? Three pics of him getting embarrassed by Freeza? Vegeta standing next to a tree, standing next to Trunks, standing next to Goku, standing in front of Pui Pui, 3 Majin pics, 2 pics of him fighting Buu, and him at a picnic? This doesn't need to be a self-contained visual guide to the entire series. This is an encyclopedia- people can find their own multimedia, there's a wealth of picture sites out there. That isn't wiki's function. And out of curiosity, is there a reference or link for the Vegeta/Batman thing?Onikage725 17:42, 27 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-Canon Saiyans and Pics 

message: This came up a few times earlier- when did Vegeta go SSJ2 for the first time? One camp thinks it was prior to the Buu Saga's beginning, others say it was a result of his latent powers being brought fore by Babidi. I noticed something while reading through the manga yesterday though. In the manga, being able to transform into a SSJ2 is often referred to as having "broken through" or "surpassed the Super Saiyan wall." That being said, when Vegeta squared off with Fat Buu, Piccolo looks on in amazement and states that Vegeta has broken through the Super Saiyan wall, and was stronger than Gohan had been in the Cell games. The exact line is written in the Majin Vegeta discussion above. That would signify that SSJ2 was something new for Vegeta, right? If Vegeta had transformed prior to the Buu Saga, surely Piccolo, who sensed Goku halfway across the planet in the Saiyan Saga, Freeza from halfway across Namek, and later sensed Freeza from outerspace, would have sensed it. Goku also spent a good portion of the early stages of the inflitration of Babidi's ship gauging everyone's power, and he felt he could take Vegeta quickly at his maximum...until Vegeta unleashed his (arguably) new form.Onikage725 13:11, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: When Vegeta went SSJ2

message: Small edit- I just made mention that Vegeta refers to himself as Super Vegeta for the first time when he fights #19 (""Kurae! Koitsu ga Supâ Bejita no... Biggu Bang Attakk-u da!"). In the English dub, the line was "Here it comes! A little going away present for you!" So I also put a note in the Ascended section pointing out that in the dub, that was the first time he used the nickname. Onikage725 13:40, 30 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Super Vegeta

message: * Wiki-star: I'm currently re-adding most of the images in the article. I'm also going to finalize this article, to the point all the main information for Vegeta is given. Thanks again contributors!
Wiki-star 20:52, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Images Re-Added

message: There is a lot of unnessesary info and speculations like VEGETA'S STRENGTH section!!?!?!? There should not be such things in here 81.18.55.28 19:57, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Man, you're going article to article huh :p Onikage725 00:01, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

text: Eh? 81.18.49.185 10:21, 9 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Article too long?

message: I have alot of Vegeta images that are copyrighted and that I could use, and I already added two of them to the article (AscendedSSJVegeta.jpg and MajinVegeta.jpg) But they aren't like the other ones that are in the table-like thing. Sorry if I'm confusing you but I'm new. I would like to know how to put them in the tables, and if it was ok for me to do so.
:Well, there's already enough images of Vegeta on the article. There's a Fair Use Policy for Wiki that lets us know that we should try to keep the number of copyrighted images to a minimum. Screen shots can be used, but only when it is necessary to show something that cannot be described accurately in words.
:Also, generally, images are inserted ABOVE the thing they're supposed to represent, not below it.
:Daishokaioshin 22:50, 11 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok,but could somone please tell me how to put images in the tables? When I put them in a paragraph they are always just there and not set up right I don't know why
KojiDude 19:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, Could someone please tell me how we can upload any picture since I tried that a lot put everytime they send to me a message that my picture will be deleted after 7 days, And so could anyone change the top picture for Vegeta I don't think that it's a good one, If anyone can put a picture for Vegeta from DBGT it would be more better since his face and body changed for better and his shape is more better in GT, And is there are any way to include a picture for more attacks/techs it would be more better too.thanks for everyone.--Astrys 01:45, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Images 

message: Vegeta calls Bulma his wife when he's yelling at goku.See?
As the article Bulma(mother of children) is this means that the relationship between Vegeta and Bulma is a Whoredom or what could anyone explain.Astrys 19:36, 30 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vegeta married to Bulma 

message: In DBGT, I know it isn't exactly: "REAL", is Vegeta stronger than Kid Goku?--suit-n-tie 04:47, 5 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Yay. 

message: That picture next to the Vegeta and Bulma section isn't an official translation, therefor, should it be removed?--Suit-n-tie 01:57, 13 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture.