Template talk:Lowercase title

message: Some editors might prefer to include a blank line between top-of-page templates and the first line of actual text in order to improve readability in the edit box; for example:

eBay Inc. is an American Internet company...
In the case of , doing so would result in extra whitespace appearing at the top of the article. Following some experimentation, I believe that this may be fixed by enclosing the transcluded content in a  tag. Thus, I propose that the source of the template be changed from:




to:




Thanks! Melissa 4.0 (talk) 18:58, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Just noticed that this problem has already been raised in /Archive 1#extra space, referring to this revision of an article. Issue was circumvented by removing the blank line from the article. However, the problem also appears (uncorrected) in chgrp, lsattr, and probably several others. Performing the fix I suggested above would eliminate the issue from all pages. Melissa 4.0 (talk) 19:15, 9 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. If you don't see the change, purge the article. Pagrashtak 16:08, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Setting visibility to hidden 

message: Strange, the article writes
>>Simply add the tag  at the top of a page<<
but the eBay example only has:
>><<
, i.e. no " title" part.
Should the article be shortened by  title?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 80.80.22.6 (talk) 17:40, 11 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: redirects to , so there is no difference between the two. -- intgr [talk] 18:04, 11 April 2010 (UTC)

text: "Off-topic" probably is a sufficient reason for this question having gone unanswered. AFAIK the answer is trivial, and the question can be seen as raising the further question "How can a server-owner who needs to solicit the answer to that 1st question use their own wiki in a way that is worthy of the effort of giving free advice?"   (I don't intend to go any further off-topic; this response is motivated by a desire to keep as clear as possible the distinction between those who know their priorities keeping them straight, versus not giving a damn about you.)--Jerzy•t 03:14, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  lowercase title(?) 

message: How do I install this template on my wiki? Etherfox (talk) 19:15, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: "Off-topic" probably is a sufficient reason for this question having gone unanswered. AFAIK the answer is trivial, and the question can be seen as raising the further question "How can a server-owner who needs to solicit the answer to that 1st question use their own wiki in a way that is worthy of the effort of giving free advice?"   (I don't intend to go any further off-topic; this response is motivated by a desire to keep as clear as possible the distinction between those who know their priorities keeping them straight, versus not giving a damn about you.)--Jerzy•t 03:14, 7 September 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  (Off-topic branch) 

message: This message is to inform people monitoring this talk page that there is an "editprotected" request involving this and several other templates at Template talk:! cymru.lass (hit me up)⁄(background check) 20:46, 28 December 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Editprotected request involving this template 

message: Why doesn't this template work on xx (album)? The title it stylized as "Xx (album)". +mt 20:44, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It's exactly the same issue as above: Template:Infobox album makes title italic and MediaWiki looks at the last DISPLAYTITLE used on the page. Remove "lowercase" template and insert explicit  somewhere after "Template:Infobox album". — AlexSm 21:29, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent, thanks! +mt 21:43, 2 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Broken on [[xx (album)]]? 

message: How this thing works? There is an issue with the Turkish one. When the address is "İPhone" it works (title becomes "iPhone"). But when the address is "IPhone" then the title doesn't become "iPhone". (The Turkish letters: İi Iı. The English letters: Ii) tr:IPhone, tr:Şablon:küçük harf --Kirov Airship (talk) 13:02, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: The template seems to work fine on most pages, the issue seems to be with the letter "i": for example, try to create a page tr:iii with latin "i" and the title in URL will become "%C4%B0ii";  someone (maybe you) filed a bug today at mediazilla:28040; this could be somehow related to mediazilla:4430. — AlexSm 14:28, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: That is normal because the uppercase of i is İ (in Turkish alphabet). Why you is it as %C4%B0 is because (I think) your browser does not know the corresponding letter of %C4%B0 (which is İ). I see it as İ on Firefox 4.0b13pre. But the product name iPhone is not a Turkish word and MediaWiki needs to handle it as English word. --Kirov Airship (talk) 15:13, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, some browsers can display pretty URLs (although the "proper" one is still with "%C4%B0"). Anyway, there is nothing wrong with the "Lowercase title" template, the issue is with magic word DISPLAYTITLE itself and "i" / "İ" letters. I'm not sure the devs will be able to fix this, since DISPLAYTITLE should only produce a title that links to exactly the same page and tr:iPhone and tr:IPhone are different pages. — AlexSm 15:37, 14 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  How it works? 

message: I think it is unnecessary for the template page to be with a lowercase title, so it would be better if the actual template markup was placed in "includeonly" tags.
Radoslav Georgiev (talk) 08:38, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually it seems highly appropriate to me that the template should have a lowercase name, as this demonstrates the function of the template. — Martin (MSGJ · talk) 17:26, 30 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Edit request on 30 May 2012 

message: See xALBUMx as an example. This template does not work for this article title. There's an interference with whatever makes album titles to have Italic titles and thus cancels out the effects for making the first letter of the title of the article lowercase. • GunMetal Angel 16:14, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Same issue as above e.g. in section #Broken on xx (album)?. I updated the template documentation. — AlexSm 16:44, 4 June 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template doesn't work for titles with Italics  

message: -Fimatic (talk | contribs) 00:41, 20 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shouldn't protected templates be protected for admins ''and'' template editors? 

message: I have been trying to use the  syntax to make the second word in this article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disconnected_Youth lowercase. The article title should be "Disconnected youth" ... and the  syntax only makes the first letter of the first word lowercase. Thank you for your help/advice/bug fix. Lusty Mercantilist (talk) 17:00, 6 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: (The fix was to move (rename) the article "Disconnected youth", which someone did.) --A876 (talk) 19:41, 11 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title: Using syntax to make the SECOND word in a title lowercase

message: “Simply add the tag  at the beginning of a page” works only on en.wikipedia – apparently, these are translated in other versions. So, how do I find out the de.wikipedia name for this template? annoyed mirabilos (talk) 18:36, 12 February 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  portability 

message: Nest the span tags within includeonly tags so that the template page displays "Template:Lowercase title" instead of "Template:lowercase title".
GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 23:46, 6 August 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: It's a good demonstration of what the template actually does. --Redrose64 (talk) 08:01, 7 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Protected edit request on 6 August 2015 

message: Template:R from Java package name is a template for which the including pages should all start with lowercase letters, but the template's own title shouldn't. But even though it includes the lowercase-title template inside a <includeonly> tag, the lowercase title ends up also applying to the template itself. How can we fix this? NeonMerlin 06:03, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Why is it a problem? --Redrose64 (talk) 09:48, 2 October 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: The discussion continues at Wikipedia:VPT#Lowercase title. GeoffreyT2000 (talk) 15:49, 8 November 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  &lt;includeonly&gt;&#123;&#123;lowercase title&#125;&#125;&lt;/includeonly&gt; doesn't work 

message: An editor has been going around putting  on articles whose names start "Untitled", and I don't understand his explanation. Please join the discussion at Talk:Untitled Amazon motoring show. – Smyth\talk 11:34, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  "untitled" 

message: Do we have any categories that keep track of pages which do this?
I notice that xxxHolic does it manually via DISPLAYTITLE because it is also italicized, so I can't simply check where the lowercase title template is used since it is not always used when lowercasing is done.
Where could Template:Hidden category be put? Trying to think of a name. :Category:Articles with a decapitalized first letter perhaps? ScratchMarshall (talk) 03:29, 16 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: categories for subjects

message: Template:Lower case first letter italic title has been nominated for deletion. Feedback welcome. – Uanfala (talk) 17:59, 22 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Related TfD 

message: This has already been brought up and seemingly addressed in 2009, however, the template still produces an extra empty paragraph (consisting of HTML ) in some articles. Examples: de Havilland Mosquito, ed (text editor), and uMkhuze Game Reserve. I suggest switching Template:Lowercase title to use a self-closed  tag: Special:Diff/772147368/986791242. This is the solution used in templates , , , and others. If there are no objections, I will implement the change next week. —⁠andrybak (talk) 01:27, 3 November 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Special:Diff/994493327. —⁠andrybak (talk) 00:24, 16 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Template still produces an empty paragraph 

message: i've done exactly as instructed, but it fails to work.
see page: https://karaoke.kjams.com/wiki/KJams.Cue
davec (talk) 21:32, 26 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  does not function