Template talk:Nn-warn

message: I created this template for the use of new-page patrollers and anyone else who tags speedy deletes under A7 (nn-bios). DES (talk) 18:37, 22 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Authorship

message: Just copy edited this. Re-setting talk link. Sorry for delay, WP seemed inaccesible for the longest time.—encephalon 10:45, 28 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copy edit 

message: Someone edited the template to suggest that if the creator could demonstrate notability, the speedy tag should be removed. IMO this is wrong! I would revert such a removal as vandalism. Any deleting admin should check the history and the talk page, and if any claim to notability is presnt, and particularly if the article has been expanded since it was tagged, should not delete. Remember that this template is specifically addressed to the creator of the tagged article. We should not encourage the creator to remove the tag, that is just asking for edit wars. I have re-edited the template to remove any such suggestion. Please do not restore it, particularly without discussing the matter here first. DES (talk) 01:56, 25 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Removal of speedy tag

message: I think this template got created with good intentions, and may have kinder wording than what is found here. Any opinions on a merge of the text from the other? -- nae'blis (talk) 17:19, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I suggest we keep both, I think both might be appropriate at different times. - CHAIRBOY (☎) 17:25, 5 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: For one thing,  is specifically for a page about the author, which this is not. DES (talk) 19:34, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:nothanks-vanity]] 

message: As originally drafted, this template added a section header, as it was intended to be used in a separate section of a talk page. That is still how i invariably use it. The header was removed from the trmpleate without discussion, and without changing the usage notes -- which still say that a header is created.
If the IF tempaltes had not been deprecated, i would suggest using one. I personally would prefer restoring the header, as I think warning should normally be preceeded by proper individual headers, but I would like to hear other people's views before doign so. DES (talk) 19:32, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I know this is a few months old, but I totally wished there was a header created when I used this template today. Adding the header manually isn't terrible, but is still time consuming and annoying. I'd move to bring the header back.--Andrew c 01:43, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Please remove the header; with a header on the template itself the '+' button can't be used to apply this template like it can with all the others (, , etc.); it must look confusing to users who end up with two headers above their warnings. Perhaps there should be two versions, one with a header and one without. --ais523 09:11, 9 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed, standard practice is for warning tags to not have self-created headers. I've removed it from the template. EVula // talk // ☯ // 03:56, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Header 

message: I have added a link to Wikipedia:Notability (people) to the text of the template. DES (talk) 17:06, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to WP:BIO 

message: I'm going to change this line to "A speedy deletion tag has been placed..." so people can put nn-warn on user pages without having actually done the speedy deletion tag. Most of the time, people who tag pages don't inform the user of why. JHMM13 (T | C)   05:51, 24 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  "I have placed..." 

message: I removed the "your" (i.e. "your article"). "Ownership of articles" is a big enough problem as it is and users who will be getting this template are especially likely to fall into that trap. savidan(talk) (e@) 08:40, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Minor change 

message: The criteria for speedy deletion have undergone quite a few changes recently, and I have updated this warning template in accordance with those.  I have expanded this warning message to include all of the things under CSD A7 ("a person, group of people, band, club, company or website"), and instead of the messy "he/she/they is/are" bit, I've changed it to say, "...why the subject is notable".  I'm keeping a close watch on the ongoing debates over there, and will try to keep this template updated.  -- Merope Talk 15:18, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tweaks per changes to [[WP:CSD]] A7 

message: I've rewritten much of the text with an eye towards an unfamiliar reader, since many of the people who see this tag will probably be getting their very first message as a wikipedia editor, and we need to avoid jargon and explain things in a very friendly manner to people who probably mean well but could use a helping hand. Night Gyr (talk/Oy) 19:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  rewrite 

message: I added a headline to the info-tag. It is easily hidden between other text on the talk page, so headline is better. ≈Tulkolahten≈≈talk≈ 10:01, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Headline 

message: From one day to the next I have no idea whether this template is going to create a headline or not, so I end up with two or none. SOMEBODY please make a decision and stick to it. Fan-1967 16:24, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: All the other templates in the cat have a headline so I suppose it should stay. Cheers Lethaniol 20:16, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  PLEASE Make up your minds 

message: Am looking to clean up some of these CSD nomination templates. It looks like Template:Nn-notice is redundant, and covered much better by this template. Anybody bothered if I merge. If no response after weekend will merge, and redirect Nn-notice here. Cheers Lethaniol 20:27, 14 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As no one objected I have merged these two. I wait a day or two and see if someone comes and complains, and then go through all the nn-notice What Links here (100+) and remove its link from the important ones e.g. lists of Templates. There is currently no double redirects - so no problem there. Lethaniol 15:33, 19 December 2006 (UTC)

text: Have redirected nn-notice to a specific Template:nn-warn-deletion instead, for use once article has been deleted. Cheers Lethaniol 16:27, 19 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nn-notice 

message: Reverted to no header as agreed here Wikipedia talk:Criteria for speedy deletion#CSD templates - HEADINGS. Cheers Lethaniol 18:26, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh I saw that, and I strongly disagree.  Unless the CSD templates are updated to provide copy-paste ready text for the creation of warnings WITH headers, then if a user is creating lots of NN articles, either the CVU patroller has to manually type "|header=1" every time (which is a major pain in the ass), or else the talk page will become very hard to read as it fills up with warnings.  Look at most peoples' talk pages: there is one section header for each message, no matter the content. --Dgies 18:49, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I cannot possibly fathom what harm a heading does, and not having one is a pain since: (1)those who want one have to manually add one - nullifying the benifit of a template, and (2) it is not easily dicernible to see who is a repeat offender, how many times they offended, if they keep recreating the same deleted article, etc...  Headings make this much simpler.  Even ten more seconds can make a huge difference for a patroller.  I often view the page, tag it and warm the person in less than 45 seconds.  Having to add headings, sort through offenses, etc... can slow me down by half.--Esprit15d  (talk ¤ contribs) 18:36, 6 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry but this issue has been discussed in a bit of depth see link above - if you want to bring up the issue again I suggest you do so at WP:CSD. Of course you can you use the "new" format to add a header, without having to do it manually. I will also point you to WP:UW which will be removing all heading from userbox warnings - so you might want to bring it up there too. Cheers Lethaniol 13:49, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  No Header 

message: I think there is an error in the header code for this template, per this talk page, where a message left by User:ThePointblank ended up having an edit button that functioned for my section below, but not its own section. Logical2uTalk 00:31, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm I don't know/ Have checked out User talk:Teenage-dilemma-93 - and both the edit buttons seem to be working. Cheers Lethaniol 16:55, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, but I edited the page after one didn't work. Roll back a couple of edits and try it, maybe. Actually, what the hell, let's stick one in here... Logical2uTalk 15:05, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  Yea, something about the template/header thing is messing up what the edit button does. Check out the template below (IE: Click edit on it), and you'll see that the edit page is blank for some reason. Logical2uTalk 15:06, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

text: You are quite right - clicking on the edit button brings up a blank page that if edited and saved does nothing. Am at work at the moment will investigate more later Cheers Lethaniol 15:14, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

text: Header nowikied to avoid problems on this page -- do tests on a test page, please. DES (talk) 21:09, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Re: Header, possibly error? 

message: This template currently seems to be aimed at articles only. I think it would be nice if it was more generic so that it could be used for images, categories, redirects and everything else. Does anyone object to this? The template will only need to be reworded slightly for this to happen. --Android Mouse 19:53, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I would, very strongly. The template follows WP:CSD#A7. A7 is strictly limioted to articels, and to articles of rather narrowly defiend types at that (people, groups, clubs, bands, and companies). These are the only cases in which a speedy deltion for "failure to assert notability" is warrented. there are other db- tempaltes matching the various other speedy deletion criteria. they are all listed on WP:CSD, I think. Use the proper existign template, or use  if none fits. DES (talk) 21:06, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for clearing that up, I wasn't aware of template:prod, which was exactly what I was looking for. --Android Mouse 21:26, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Um, you might want to read through Wikipedia:Proposed deletion, Prod is not generally used on categories, tempaltes, or images, as I understand it. DES (talk) 21:29, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll take a look at that, thanks again. --Android Mouse 23:41, 12 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Making the template more generic

message: I noticed that the  template now has a YELLOW warning flag, and thought that this should have one as well ... OTOH, if you think that a RED flag would be more appropriate (or not), then go ahead and change (or revert) my addition ... Happy Editing! — 21:56, 5 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warning flag 

message: Please see Template talk:AfD-notice#CENTRALIZED DISCUSSION - Replacing icon (File:Ambox warning pn.svg), Herostratus (talk) 04:28, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed icon change 

message: I'm trimming the wording a   little, without changing the meaning at.  Experience show that users do not actually read all the contents,especially about hangon tags.    DGG ( talk ) 23:11, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: wording