Talk:List of computer size categories

message: Keep it up McNeight!
I may disagree with some of your sorting, and occasionally re-sort them, but having all these labels pulled together in one place is Just So Much Fun! --Alvestrand 20:25, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'll try, but I really think I'm running out of obscure sizes. Are you interested in attempting to standardize some of these sizes? For example, set a specific definition of subnotebook and point all other references (like 'tweener' and 'Mini-PC') to it? Possibly even start categories for each size? McNeight 21:05, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that's a good next step! - as indicated by the indentations on this page; we can work out an agreed grouping on this page, and when that's stable, we can go out and impose that on the referenced pages :-) --Alvestrand 00:22, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Works for me. I guess first of all, I'd like to double check the definitions against both the wiktionary, as well as Google and see which sub categories are actual categories (handheld device) and which are marketing terms (Handheld PC). McNeight 00:30, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Sounds good. The stuff that actually relates back to a definition in a document (like the Microsoft terms) should remain on their own pages, but the things that people seem to have used just for fun should be merged, I think. --Alvestrand 01:23, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I'll start posting references in here, and see if we can get to a standard. McNeight 01:38, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Keep looking! 

message: === Palmtop ===
Seems kinda broad at first glance (I searched here and got multiple links)
* a computer small and light enough to be held in one hand. 
* a type of computer which is small enough to fit in your hand 
* A computer that is small enough to fit in the palm of one's hand. 
* (possibly the best entry)
** or hand-held personal computer, lightweight, small, battery-powered, general-purpose programmable computer. It typically has a miniaturized full-function, typewriterlike keyboard for input and a small, full color, liquid-crystal display for output. In addition to an operating system that is compatible with that of a desktop computer, a palmtop will typically contain a word processor, a spreadsheet program, and a calendar and phone book. A variety of other programs can be loaded and executed, and data can usually be transferred to and from a desktop computer. Although some palmtops are like personal digital assistants in that they accept handwritten or touch screen input, they generally differ in that the palmtop has more memory, a keyboard, and a greater variety of available programs. 
* "free" answer from FOLDOC
** (Or "pocket computer", "Hand-held Personal Computer", H/PC) A small general-purpose, programmable, battery-powered computer cabable of handling both numbers and text (in contrast to most pocket calculators) which can be operated comfortably while held in one hand. A palmtop is usually loaded with an operating system such as Windows CE. Data can be transferred between the palmtop and a desktop PC.
** A palmtop is very similar to a Personal Digital Assistant though a palmptop may have a larger keyboard and more RAM and is possibly more general purpose in concept, if not in practise. 
Any thoughts? McNeight 01:55, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Handheld device 

message: Seems kinda broad at first glance (I searched here and got multiple links)
* a computer small and light enough to be held in one hand. 
* a type of computer which is small enough to fit in your hand 
* A computer that is small enough to fit in the palm of one's hand. 
* (possibly the best entry)
** or hand-held personal computer, lightweight, small, battery-powered, general-purpose programmable computer. It typically has a miniaturized full-function, typewriterlike keyboard for input and a small, full color, liquid-crystal display for output. In addition to an operating system that is compatible with that of a desktop computer, a palmtop will typically contain a word processor, a spreadsheet program, and a calendar and phone book. A variety of other programs can be loaded and executed, and data can usually be transferred to and from a desktop computer. Although some palmtops are like personal digital assistants in that they accept handwritten or touch screen input, they generally differ in that the palmtop has more memory, a keyboard, and a greater variety of available programs. 
* "free" answer from FOLDOC
** (Or "pocket computer", "Hand-held Personal Computer", H/PC) A small general-purpose, programmable, battery-powered computer cabable of handling both numbers and text (in contrast to most pocket calculators) which can be operated comfortably while held in one hand. A palmtop is usually loaded with an operating system such as Windows CE. Data can be transferred between the palmtop and a desktop PC.
** A palmtop is very similar to a Personal Digital Assistant though a palmptop may have a larger keyboard and more RAM and is possibly more general purpose in concept, if not in practise. 
Any thoughts? McNeight 01:55, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Palmtop 

message: Perhaps even more vague?
* A computer small enough to be held in one hand while being operated by the other hand. Handheld computers are commonly used in transportation and other field service industries. They are usually built to perform specific tasks. They often have restricted specialized keyboards rather than the standard QWERTY layout, smaller displays, input devices such as bar code readers, and communications devices for sending their data to a central computer; they rarely have disk drives. Their software is usually proprietary and stored in ROM. See also QWERTY keyboard, ROM. Compare handheld PC, PDA. 
* held in the hand; especially : designed to be operated while being held in the hand 
*A handheld computer is a computer that can conveniently be stored in a pocket (of sufficient size) and used while you're holding it. Today's handheld computers, which are also called personal digital assistants (PDAs), can be divided into those that accept handwriting as input and those with small keyboards. The original handheld that accepted handwriting was Apple's Newton, which was later withdrawn from the market. Today, the most popular handheld that accepts handwritten input is the PalmPilot from 3Com. Philips, Casio, NEC, Compaq, and other companies make handhelds with small keyboards. 
McNeight 02:11, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Handheld computer 

message: * GFDL from FOLDOC
** A small hand-held computer typically providing calendar, contacts, and note-taking applications but may include other applications, for example a web browser and media player. Small keyboards and pen-based input systems are most commonly used for user input. 
* A lightweight palmtop computer designed to provide specific functions like personal organization (calendar, note taking, database, calculator, and so on) as well as communications. More advanced models also offer multimedia features. Many PDA devices rely on a pen or other pointing device for input instead of a keyboard or mouse, although some offer a keyboard too small for touch typing to use in conjunction with a pen or pointing device. For data storage, a PDA relies on flash memory instead of power-hungry disk drives. See also firmware, flash memory, PC Card, pen computer. 
* A lightweight, hand-held, usually pen-based computer used as a personal organizer. 
* a small handheld computer with facilities for taking notes, storing information such as addresses, and keeping a calendar, usually operated using a stylus rather than a keyboard 
* A lightweight, hand-held, usually pen-based computer used as a personal organizer. 
* A computer small enough to fit in the palm of the hand or in a small pocket. Some models accept handwritten input; others are equipped with a small keyboard. Because of their small size, most PDAs do not include a disk drive. Their capabilities are therefore limited to scheduling, note-taking, simple calculations, and storing addresses and phone numbers, but some models include slots into which modems and other peripheral devices can be inserted to allow users to exchange e-mail, access the Web, and upload/download information. Synonymous with handheld computer, palmtop, and pocket computer. 
(some of these might be repeats from above) McNeight 02:23, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Personal digital assistant 

message: * A portable computer that is smaller than a notebook computer. 
* a laptop computer smaller and lighter than a notebook, typically weighing less than 5 pounds (2.3 kg). 
* A portable computer, usually a PC-compatible, that is smaller than a notebook computer but larger than a handheld computer. Subnotebooks often leave out features such as floppy disc and CD-ROM drives. One example is the Toshiba Libretto. 
* A portable computer that is smaller and lighter than a conventional laptop computer. 
McNeight 02:31, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Subnotebook 

message: * This one and Mini-PC I was a little dubious about. Turns out that both articles were created on May 14, 2003. That same day, ZDNet published an article titled Not laptop, not PDA: Should you buy a tweener?. Google searches for "tweener" gives some... interesting definitions, and "tweener computer" gives the above article as the fourth hit. I say kill the definition. McNeight 02:58, 4 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tweener 

message: Just what does "by size" mean?  There are so many other criteria utilized that I'm not exactly sure of the arrangement offered here.  The best way to categorize computers is to stick with the general traditional types; super, mainframe, mini, and micro.  These are then broken down into sub-categories.  The size of the Microsoft Surface computer is still a sub-category of micro.  Its exorbitant size is only because of the monitor portion.  Most do not have monitors, unless they are some sort of portable micro computer.  IMHO, this article should be by type, and then sub-type or -category. - KitchM (talk) 07:09, 22 May 2010 (UTC)
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