Talk:Potosí

message: The statement that Zacatecas was the "other big silver mine" would appear to be misleading.  Spain had many large silver camps all over Mexico, Pachuca (in Hidalgo) being one of the largest.  I recall reading, also, that Zacatecas may have little claim as one of the top silver producing districts (at least in historical terms) though it did recieve heavy investment from overseas (especially British).  Also, Zacatecas was relativelly far to the north of Spain's empire.
Also, after the initially rich surface deposits (consisting especially of chlorargyrite) were worked out, Potosi apparently did not have ore rich enough to compare favourably with that in many Mexican locations, but cheap indian labor (the mita) made it economically feasible.
Not only was the labor cheap, there were technological advances in this time period that were implemented in the Potosí mines. And it wasn't just Indian labor, around 30,000 African slaves were brought into the city as well. It became known as Cerro Rico (Rich Mountain in Spanish).  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Wikiverkai (talk • contribs) 11:35, 8 May 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silver Mining in Spanish Empire 

message: The statement that there were 8 millions deaths is not well supported (a movie quote). They are claiming this is bigger than the holocaust? Here is a different estimate of "hundreds of thousands" which is a bit more plausible:
http://www.historycooperative.org/journals/cp/vol-03/no-04/potosi/  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.115.215.79 (talk) 04:22, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Good point.  I'll replace the text and reference.  Plazak (talk) 14:43, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

text: Yes, I am confident that the 8 million figure is wrong, even though Galeano uses it. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 23:36, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  8 Million Deaths? 

message: In the section titled "Origins of the Name", the story which needs a citation, is reiterated and somewhat expanded upon, even suggesting the prior name Sumaj Orko, in the book: Open veins of Latin America: five centuries of the pillage of a continent (correct capitalization) by Eduardo Galeano, originally published as Las venas abiertas de America Latina by Siglo XXI Editores, Mexico, copyright 1971 by Siglo XXI Editores. 
The passage is in Part 1: Mankind's Poverty as a Consequence of the Wealth of the Land, Chapter 1: Lust for Gold, Lust for Silver, subsection The Silver Cycle: The Splendors of Potosi, page 21 of the 25th anniversary edition published by Monthly Review Press in 1997.
     Potosi[acc]'s history did not begin with the Spaniards. Before the conquest the Inca Huayna Ca[inv.acc.]paj had heard his vassals talk of the Sumaj Orko, the beautiful hill, and he was finally able to see it when, having fallen ill, he had himself taen to the thermal springs of Tarapaya. From the straw-hut village of Cantumarca the Inca's eyes contemplated for the first time that pefect cone which rises so proudly between the mountain peaks. He was awestruck by its reddish hues, slender form, and giant size, as people have continued to be through ensuing centuries. But the Inca suspected that it must conceal precious stones and rich metals in its bowels, and he wanted to add new decorations to th Temple of the Sun in Cuzco. The gold and silver that the Incas took from the mines of Colque Porco and Andacaba did not leave the kingdom: they were not used commercially but for the adoration of the gods. Indian miners had hardly dug their flints into the beautiful Cerro's veins of silver when a deep, hollow voice struck them to the ground. Emerging as loud as thunder from the depths of the wilderness, the voice said in Quechua, "This is not for you; God is keeping these riches for those who come from afar." The Indians fled in terror and the Inca, before departing from the Cerro, changed its name. It became "Potojsi," which means to thunder, burst, explode.
     "Those who come from afar" took little time in coming, although Huayna Ca[inv.acc.]paj was dead by the time the captains of the conquest made their way in. In 1545 the Indian Huallpa, running in pursuit of an escaped llama, had to pass the night on the Cerro. It was intensely cold and he lit a fire. By it's light he saw a white and shining vein -- [actually an m dash] pure silver. The Spanish avalanche was unleashed.
here [acc] denotes an accent on the previous letter, [inv.acc.] denotes an inverted accent on the previous letter, and [actually an m dash] refers to the two n dashes immediately preceeding.
If you can not cite the posted information, you could always verify and then post this instead, most likely without the second paragraph.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.102.226.123 (talk) 23:13, 3 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Citation Needed No Longer 

message: Is Cerro Rico the same as Huayna Potosí? If so, Cerro Rico's redirection should be fixed and if not, the see also note on top of Cerro Potosí should be changed to Potosí.--Taranet (talk) 20:35, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cerro Rico 

message: The essay says potosi is 4,090 metres high, and there is a link as certification. The link isn't reliable, as it says it is the highest town in the world. The deutch wikipedia says it is about 4000 meter, and specifically 3976.Uziel302 (talk) 11:10, 21 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I was just in Potosí over the past few days, and for what it's worth (no, this isn't a reliable source) I saw signs claiming an altitude of 4,060m. Of course, the city is also on the hill, and so is at various altitudes. I presume one would measure from the main square. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 23:34, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Height 

message: The panorama photo here is quite pretty, but also misleading. When I was looking at the page just now, on a laptop with fairly high resolution, you couldn't see the Cerro Rico as claimed by the caption. It was only by going to Commons () that I could see the full image and realized that it does indeed feature the Cerro Rico, about two thirds of the way across, to the right. Even then, and for all it's prettiness, I'd suggest that this isn't a particularly helpful photo, not least because it de-emphasizes the way in which the Cerro Rico looms over the town just about wherever you are in it.
If I have time (I am still in Bolivia, in fact in Sucre, but on the road) I may upload one of the photos I took over the past few days. --jbmurray (talk • contribs) 23:40, 19 August 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Panorama Photo 

message: Mann in his book 1493 reports that much silver went to China where it provided the minerals for making coins
and rescued the dynasty. Sorry I can't be clearer. But this aspect is quite important possibly to the Manchu Dynasty if not its predecessor. ( Martin |  talk • contribs  00:55, 10 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Silver was also smuggled to China via Fugian 

message: JPL PhotoJournal present a page of PIA25705: Potosi, Bolivia Rjluna2 (talk) 17:11, 12 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  JPL PhotoJournal's PIA: PIA25705: Potosi, Bolivia