Talk:Pretoria

message: Someone should remove the name of the mayor from the infobox, because Pretoria doesn't have a mayor of its own. The local (municipal) government of Pretoria, along with sourrounding towns is now part of the City of Tshwane Metropolitan Municpality. However, Pretoria still exists as a place and as the capital of South Africa, it simply doesn't have a seperate municipal government.
To explain the point, again, Pretoria is a city. Tshwane is the name of the much larger metropolitan municipality that contains Pretoria, as well as other nearby towns. Therefore although Pretoria continues to exist, it doesn't have a seperate municipal government, and, hence it doesn't have a mayor of its own. This situation exists throughout South Africa, with many once independent cities and towns, although still existing, no longer have seperate municipal governments, instead being part of Metropolitan Councils or similar structures.
See also these links  that illustrate the relationship between Pretoria and Tshwane.
168.209.98.35 20:59, 8 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pretoria doesn't have a mayor - infobox 

message: Are there any more specific facts about Pretorias demographics, or does this issue also get cloudet with the tswane municipality-thing? I have seen links to statistics at the cape-town jhb pages, but they pint to the greater municipality, (wich naturaly does not have a name controversy)
The first sentence of the section states that the population is about one million, but the graphic directly underneath has a much higher population, is it possible to get the correct number?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.100.186.192 (talk) 13:38, 20 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demographics 

message: I have removed the unsubstantiated claim that Pretoria has the second largest number of embassies in the world behind Washington DC.  I am maintaining the Diplomatic missions by country lists and I can think of many other cities (Brussels, Paris, London, Rome, Beijing etc.) that would attract more embassies.  Kransky 13:12, 7 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Diplomatic missions

message: I did a quick Google and found the following link for citation:
If someone feels it is enough evidence please modify the page or I will try to get more citations.
Openhazel 13:22, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Largest residential university in the country 

message: Pretoria is a city located in the northern part of Gauteng Province, South Africa. It is one of the country's three capital cities, serving as the executive (administrative) and official de facto capital; the other two being Cape Town and Bloemfontein, respectively the legislative and judicial capitals.
I think this is incorrect in three material respects:
1) official de facto is problematic if its official it isn't de facto it just is.
2) de facto South Africa does not have a single integrated central capital historically there are three cities enjoying capital status, the final Constitution mentions one (Cape Town) but if we look at the list o institutions that are important four cities are de facto seats of Government - the traditional 3 and Johannesburg. If any thing: 
Pretoria is a city located in the northern part of Gauteng Province, South Africa. It is on the country's three historic capital city holding the designation of executive (administrative) capital; the other two being Cape Town and Bloemfontein, respectively the legislative and judicial capitals. Pretoria can be regarded as the Seat of Government and primary capital city owing to the number of governance institutions housed in the city (in contrast to Cape Town housing Parliament and Bloemfontein the Supreme Court of Appeal) and the fact that the Constitutional Court is based in Johannesburg effectively giving it the same claim to capitalhood as Cape Town and Bloemfontein.
Could probably be said with more weight.
3) The City of Tshwane is being marketed as the capital this is a bigger metropolitan area that exceeds Pretoria the remark is awaiting confussion in that department.
Paul Hjul 14:56, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Capital Status 

message: This article would greatly benefit from a map showing its relative location within the country.  Neil916 (Talk) 15:38, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Map

message: "In 1994 after the fall of the Apartheid regime". Regime implies POV. We don't talk about the Kenyan regime or the Nigerian regime. Arguably there was more freedom and justice in South Africa at the time than many black African countries. This sentence should be removed. 198.161.173.163 (talk) 22:19, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apartheid 'regime' 

message: This section appears to be quite long relative to the article length.  What is the importance?
RickH86 (talk) 05:59, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't believe there is anything specifically important about it. Most probably someone just had all the information and decided to add it. The section on satellite transmission should definitely be move to another article as it is relevant to all of South Africa, not just Pretoria --NJR ZA (talk) 15:52, 25 June 2008 (UTC)

text: I have moved this long list of to an article on it's own under Media in Tswhane. I don't think Pretoria requires an Media article dedicated to itself and it makes more sense to have one for the whole metro. It's also a good idea to not restrict it to just radio and television, but rather include all media. --NJR_ZA (talk) 12:34, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Radio and Television Broadcasting 

message: Does Pretoria really need a separate article for the central business district, Central Business District (Pretoria)? Since Tshwane was established Pretoria really is not all that big anymore and it should be easy just to incorporate the CBD in Geography->Districts section in the Pretoria article itself. --NJR_ZA (talk) 13:10, 12 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:   Merge with Pretoria 

message: The following are not suburbs, but rather fenced residential complexes in Pretoria East
* Woodhill 
* Mooikloof 
* Mooikloof Ridge
Mohau (talk) 18:28, 17 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suburbs 

message: It doesn't list all the suburbs and there are to much suburbs to list them all in one article.
Create another article if you want to list all the suburbs with a title like Pretoria Suburbs
196.41.187.15 (talk) 10:09, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed: Suburbs and notable areas 

message: I would like to include Primary Schools in the main page (before Seconday schools section)
Please contribute if there are any other primary schools I have left out
* Boerefort Laerskool
* Constantiapark Laerskool
* Garsfontein Laerskool
* Glenstantia Primary
* Lynwood Ridge Primary
* Monument Park Laerskool
* Northridge Primary
* Pretoria-Oos Laerskool
* Queenswood Laerskool
* Rietondale Primary
* Simon Bekker Laerskool
* Stephanus Roos Laerskool
* Swartkop Laerskool
* Akasia Laerskool
* Theresa Park laerskool  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.202.5.106 (talk) 08:16, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Primary Schools 

message: The article regarding this treaty fails to mention one historical fact, the "Vrede van vereeniging" was signed in the melrose house in Jacob Maree street pretoria.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 169.202.5.106 (talk) 08:30, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Vrede van Vereeniging" 

message: The Tshwane Metropolitan Area was created because in Pretoria there is a white majority so merging Pretoria (1 million people) with other towns and doubling its population with surrounding districts meant downplaying the white majority which in the Metropolitan Area (2 million people) is just 23%. But still, the reality is that in the city of Pretoria the majority of the population is white.--79.147.235.21 (talk) 16:39, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: As much as I strongly agree with your statement, what is the question you are here to raise in the article? Bezuidenhout (talk) 19:59, 25 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pretoria is NOT Tshwane 

message: The article states, " Pretoria itself is sometimes incorrectly referred to as 'Tshwane' in a controversial proposed name change, the status of which is still being decided as of 2010."  This is 2011.  What decision was made?John Paul Parks (talk) 10:40, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: As of 2011 the situation is still the same as 2010. If anything, it is ever-more less likely, as the name Tshwane is becoming used as a reference to Greater Pretoria, while Pretoria city remains. A similar example would be West Midlands (county), where obviously the main city is Birmingham, but includes other major areas. In other words, as of 2011 there is still no name change. Trust me if there was, there would be protests. Bezuidenhout (talk) 11:58, 2 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: What Decision was Made in 2010?

message: right|thumb|Example of minimalist and neomodern dasign in an office building in Pretoria.
Hi everyone, I have included this image of a facade of a building in Pretoria which has a minimalist and neomodern architectural design. Some users however do not allow it to be included in the article. Please share your views. Thank you. --PretoriaTravel (talk) 12:10, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You were adding the same image to 4 articles, without any other additions (text) to the article, which makes it look like spamming. Cst17 (talk) 12:51, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Nou het ek jou verstaan. Ag, nie man.. A friend of mine made a comment that there are no images illustrating contemporary architecture in Pretoria, so I decided to make some of modern images in Pretoria East. The image is intended to serve the same function as this photo (it is not mentioned in the text, but is included in four articles. Jammer vir die misverstand. Regards --PretoriaTravel (talk) 13:01, 22 August 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  New image 

message: What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content. Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 15:05, 19 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Timeline of Pretoria, Tshwane]] 

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message: I was wondering why the order regarding the racial make up followes as:
 • Black African	42.0%
 • Coloured	2.5%
 • Indian/Asian	1.9%
 • White	52.5%
 • Other	1.2%
Where as the source lists it as:
 • White	52.5%
 • Black African	42.0%
 • Coloured	2.5%
 • Indian/Asian	1.9%
 • Other	1.2%
I'm not gonna jump to conclusions as to why but it just seems like a weird way of listing it as the largest percentage is usually on the top of the scale yet here its last bar the "other" demographic.
213.64.227.181 (talk) 14:57, 1 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Racial makeup? 

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message: A discussion at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject South Africa#Should South Africa articles use "continental system" numbers? might impact this article.
I mention it here because this article has quite a few numbers. Batternut (talk) 10:04, 21 December 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: The use of gaps for grouping thousands is popular, though using comma as the decimal mark is not. Batternut (talk) 20:28, 22 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Should South Africa articles use "continental system" numbers? 

message: I can't fix this passage. Please fix: "The at the foothills of the Union Building on the corner of Stanza Bopape and Pine in Arcadia you have the spectacular Church of Scientology Building which is a Heritage site. The buildings are over 100 years old and was home to the builders and constructors of the Union Building itself." Tom Haws (talk) 23:11, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Pretoria#Architecture]] 

message: Tildemanana (talk) 06:25, 16 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Translated info from Gold-Starred Afrikaans Page

message: The infobox is not formatted correctly, and so just appears as normal text on the page. Readable, but not easy at all to find anything easily.
I'm new to wikipedia editing so I am not sure how to fix it.
Trive951 (talk) 15:10, 20 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox major problem