Talk:Nagercoil

message: I am refining the content of this article and I have removed the following paragraph and replace with a better version of it:
::From Language, Culture & Religion - The town comes alive during the time of Christmas in the Christian neighbourhood with lights, decorations, Christmas trees, groups singing carols and festive shopping. Apart from major Tamil festivals, Onam (Keralite festival) also is celebrated here (a local holiday).
::From Language, Culture & Religion - Christianity, both Roman Catholics and Protestants is widely practised. There are also some Orthodox Christian denominations like Marthoma and Jacobite Christians. Almost all the major Protestant denominations are found in the town. The place also has a large number of Hindus, Ayyavazhis and significant numbers of Muslims living mainly in the Kottar area and its surroundings.
If you think it needs to go back then please review my changes before making your changes
I have also observed that a lot of POV content exists in the article. For example:
::Socio-Economic Factors & Local Economy - The remittances from relatives earning outside the town and abroad (many in white collar jobs), counts for a major difference in the socio-economic status of the town - as an indicator, land prices are comparable to a bigger city in Tamilnadu.The rural areas around do not resemble the 'typical' Tamil villages in other parts of Tamilnadu - with large numbers of educated people, terraced houses, greenery, roads and access to the town, ground water, educational institutions, etc. found through the length and breadth of the populated areas of the district - much like that of Kerala.
:: Lack of cheap, industrial land and ignorance in infrastructure development by successive State Governments has left the town and the district dry of big business, though there is a high potential in the fields of Tourism (eco-tourism), Information-technology and knowledge based industries, rubber-based industries (the raw material rubber is available in plenty), agro and marine food-processing industries, shipping container trans-shipment terminals (at Colachel - a natural harbour), etc. The undeveloped port of Colachel near the town could be one of the closest ports in India to international shipping lanes, if developed.
I am at a loss here because the two paragraphs are just too messy. Maybe someone can just quickly get something out of it. My suggestion would be to remove it altogether since it would not impact this section. 
Nivus|(talk)|(desk) 06:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
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message: Its about the history of Kanyakumari, Marshal Nesamany is also a member among thousands of fighters for getting Kanyakumari as part of Tamil Nadu, Marshal Nesamany led Congress party members, But Marxist Communist party is also had an Important role in that fight. 
If i am right Nagercoil is a city in Kanyakumari district in Tamil Nadu. There is a lot of content about the district. Should not this be residing in in the article Kanyakumari? It is just making the article way too long. Every where I see there is a lot of talk about the district than the city itself. This article needs a lot of work. Any suggestions?Nivus|(talk)|(desk) 08:43, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the contents can be moved to the article on kanyakumari district.rmaria2005
I appreciate your feedback but I am waiting for a response who is more familiar with districts and cities in Tamil Nadu. I see that it was a former candidate for a featured article and maybe we can work towards it. Nivus|(talk)|(desk) 09:42, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Question about content

message: The tsunami tragedy which affected Nagercoil should not be mentioned here. It should conform with other cities which were also tsunami affected. For reference check out Chennai which has this one liner about the tragedy 
::"In 2004 the Indian Ocean tsunami lashed the shores of Chennai, killing many and permanently altering the coastline."
So i am going to move the content out and put in a similiar one liner
::The Indian Ocean Tsunami
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::"Tragedy struck on the morning of 26th December, 2004 when huge killer waves swept away hundreds of men, women and children in different parts of the District, just as it struck other coastal areas of the Indian Ocean region (many probably never had heard about a Tsunami before). The official death count in the District was put at around 900, with many more missing. The Tsunami has permanently altered the coastline. In the aftermath of the Tsunami, the Government is still to work out a plan to keep the normal tidal waves from entering the land, because of the flattened coasts. The coastal communities are slowly getting back to business, thanks to help from Government agencies and the NGO's. Several NGOs are helping in the re-construction of houses, and also subsidising on new boats and nets for fishermen. The beaches near Nagercoil are once again slowly beginning to get the weekend crowds ; but the people haven't forgotten the awesome power of nature - how it can even strike several countries at the same time, with such ferocity." Nivus|(talk)|(desk) 10:04, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
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message: The deleted contents Famous personalities, Flora and fauna are added to kanyakumari district so that the information is not lost. We can now make the nagercoil article better by including info only abt the town.RMAJ 04:10, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: MAJOR REWORK (Content Deleted)

message: Famous personalities from this district include:
*Sundara Ramaswamy - Renowned Writer, Poet (with a pen name:Pasuvayya), Critique, and Socialist ; Founder of "Kalachuvadu"-the Tamil magazine(http;www.kalachuvadu.com) and the person who kept his promises of working for Tamil people and their culture till his last breath - He died on Oct-15,2005 at California, USA -His works are available at kalachuvadu Padhipakam, KP Road-Kottar, and Sudarshan Padihippakam, Tower Junction, Nagercoil.
*Kavimani Desika Vinayagam Pillai (renowned Tamil poet, writer and scholar)
*Kalaivanar N. S. Krishnan - Tamil Film comedian and Drama Artist of yester-years
*Jeevanandam (Prominent socialist)
*Rama Subbaiyar (Founder of "Dina Malar" - No 1 Tamil Newspaper in circulation)
*Marshal Nesamani
*Suchindrum Mankalam Swaminathan Balaji
*Bala Prajapathi Adikalar, present leader of Ayyavazhi religion. 
*Kumari Anandan - Leading orator and politician
*Prof. Ranjan Roy Daniel - Leading ISRO Physicist (Padma Bhushan Awardee)
*Nanjil Nadan, renowned literary writer
*P.T. Samy, Nanjil P. Thangasamy, writer of ghost stories
*Shenbagaraman Pillai, freedom fighter who travelled in Emden submarine and threw bombs in Chennai
*Jeyamohan, renowned literary writer
*Lakshmi Manivannan, literary writer, the publisher of literary magazine, Slate
*Krishnan Nambi renowned literary writer
*Satyan a.k.a Satyanesan, famous actor of Malayalam films
*Kumari Muthu, comedian in Tamil Cinema
*Hepsibha Jesudasan, an early Tamil novel writer
*Krithika, a Tamil novel writer with strong Nietszhean ideas.
*V.Satheesh Kumar - writer, social activist, works on educating the children; You can get to know about his initiative at the next section - External Links -> Personalities-> 4th link
 Admiral Krishnan-Former Chief of Indian navy
*Vasanth -of Vasanth & Co.(Brother of Kumari Anandan)-(owner of leading chain-retail shops in Tamilnadu)
*Dr.Mathias
*Thoppil Muhammed Meeran verteran writer/sahitya academy winner
Famous people whose ancestors come from and around Nagercoil:
*David Davidar -English writer and Ex-CEO of Penguin India(Publishers). Now with Penguin Canada, Author of "The House of Blue Mangoes"
*Walter Davaram - Top cop of the MGR era in Tamilnadu
*Admiral O S Dawson - Ex-Naval Chief of Staff of India
*Venkataramanan - Ex-Governor of Reserve Bank of India
*V.G Paneerdas (VGP) - businessman (late) - pioneered Theme park near Chennai, Tamilnadu
—Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.248.176.193 (talk) 06:57, 17 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Famous Personalities

message: *Personalities
Nivus|(talk)|(desk) 04:53, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: External links

message: The best option to cover all the tourist places in Kanyakumari district is to hire a taxi and take a round trip starting from Suchindrum-Kanyakumari and travel towards the north east and to the coastal area finally ending up in Kanyakumari (or) from north east towards the south. You will be impressed by the hospitality of the local people in the villages where most of the tourist spots are located. Nivus|(talk)|(desk) 06:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Places of Interest

message: Though Nagercoil has a high educated populace, migration to big cities in India, the Gulf and Western countries from families is quite common, given the fact that the town has no big industry, but many well-educated youngsters. The remittances from relatives earning outside the town and abroad (many in white collar jobs), counts for a major difference in the socio-economic status of the town - as an indicator, land prices are comparable to a bigger city in Tamilnadu.
The rural areas around do not resemble the 'typical' Tamil villages in other parts of Tamilnadu - with large numbers of educated people, terraced houses, greenery, roads and access to the town, ground water, educational institutions, etc. found through the length and breadth of the populated areas of the district - much like that of Kerala.
Lack of cheap, industrial land and ignorance in infrastructure development by successive State Governments has left the town and the district dry of big business, though there is a high potential in the fields of Tourism (eco-tourism), Information-technology and knowledge based industries, rubber-based industries (the raw material rubber is available in plenty), agro and marine food-processing industries, shipping container trans-shipment terminals (at Colachel - a natural harbour), etc. The undeveloped port of Colachel near the town could be one of the closest ports in India to international shipping lanes, if developed. 
Kanyakumari District accounts for more than 95% of the production of natural rubber in the state of Tamilnadu. It ranks next to Kerala in rubber production and it is to be noted that India is the fourth largest producer of rubber in the world. The rubber produced in Kanyakumari district is of superior grade. In recent years, the advent of synthetic (artificial) rubber and cheaper rubber imports from Malaysia to India has brought down demand for the rubber produced here to some extent. 
The area is a delight to watch, with thousands of blades of the tall wind-mills rotating in unison, as far as the eyes can see.
Some of these wind-mills are the largest in Asia (in height of the tower, length of blades and electricity produced)
Nivus|(talk)|(desk) 06:14, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Socio-Economic Factors & Local Economy

message: Is this fact true? sprawling campus - one of the biggest in India - InTeGeR13 17:51, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no idea either, so I just put up a request for citation. --Madhu 14:17, 25 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I have seen SLB campus. It just looked like an ordinary sized school to me. vcpk (talk) 23:18, 3 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: SLB School

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message: == Eating Out ==
Eating out is generally not for people of Nagercoil. It is said to be because it would mean that the woman of the house is irresponsible and hence the family has to eat outside. With the ever increasing popularity of parrotta shops along the corners of every locality, it is almost accepted as a staple dinner for many. Bharat Parotta stall, Banu Chicken Corner, Mano Parotta stall are among the best parotta shops in Nagercoil.
Eating out in restaurants is an emerging trend. It is due to the increasing number of the floating population. The Tsunami on December 2004, together with the Atomic Power Station being established by NPCIL at Koodangulam have increased the number of foreigners visiting the town. This brought in several new restaurants. Eating out is hence catching up.
Though fish is an every day food in Nagercoil, it is extremely difficult to find a restaurant serving fish curry in the local recipe.
== Bakery and Snack Foods ==
People in Nagercoil love bakery foods. Apart from the once popular Tops Biscuit Company and the Queens Bakery, Greatest Bakery, Swiss Bakery, Best Bakery, Cake World and others around every corner provide both local and western bakery and snack foods. Today the town makes some of the best of pastries and baked foods at extremely low prices.
Please give citations for this content.InTeGeR13 (talk) 02:49, 22 October 2008 (UTC)
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message: A religious fanatic has tried to remove some of the true information from this page. I am undoing his edits. 
To User at IP:117.201.44.72
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If you want to create a virtual town with the name "Nagercoil" without any Christian festivals, missionaries, institutions, etc, you are free to do so at your own computer or home. But this is a public information media. You cannot mask the reality by deleting the truths.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Nizhalveeran (talk • contribs) 01:35, 2 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Undoing Vandalism

message: IP 59.96.23.65 has replaced "city" with "village" throughout this article.
I cant understand his/her intention in making 12th largest city of Tamil Nadu a "VILLAGE"!
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Nagercoil is district head quarters of Kanyakumari district. It is one of the very ancient cities of Travancore region and was second largest city in Travancore(only after Trivandrum). Even after merger with Tamil Nadu it remains as an important city of this region. It is not a "village".   antonylejos  —Preceding undated comment added 14:12, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Undoing purposeful mistake made by ip:59.96.23.65 to defame Nagercoil

message: The article is well written and formatted, but for the wealth of information contained, has few sources.  It would be nice to see where all of this data came from .
--RichardMills65 (talk) 07:04, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  nicely written; more sources 

message: after reading some of the article, while informational flow appears to be done well, additional copy editing is still needed. --RichardMills65 (talk) 07:12, 21 February 2012 (UTC)
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message: Hello , you have been continuously removing the image of Trivandrum international airport's image & the Malayalam translation from the article. As no airports are located in Nagercoil, the nearest and airport of interest for people in Nagercoil is Trivandrum Airport. So, what's bothering you from keeping that image? If some airport was there in Nagercoil, then the photo of that particular airport should be added, but in this case, there are none. So, it is valid to keep the photo of Trivandrum Airport. Nagercoil was initially part of Kerala, where Malayalam is spoken. While, Nagercoil is now parted from Kerala, there are still people in Nagercoil who speak Malayalam, and it can be considered as a Second language.... --JAaron95 | Talk  | Contribs  10:37, 21 April 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Reply I have removed the airport's image guided by the notion that this a geographical article and images should represent the aspects of just the place and those of those places which have their own respective articles. Both Padmanabhapuram Palace and Trivandrum airport are not located in Nagercoil, and they are there in the article for the purpose of reference only. Hence having those images of places not in the city would only be misleading. None of the featured/good geographical articles have such anomalies, and that was my grouse. But regarding the Malayalam translation, Nagercoil was never a part of Kerala, but Travancore Kingdom from where it was separated during the States Reorganisation. The Tamil speaking region in the kingdom was given to Tamil Nadu as the Malayalam speaking parts of Travancore went to the state of Kerala. Tamil is the native language spoken. No evidence exists regarding Malayalam being spoken as a second language, if so, i welcome you to discuss them here. There are several outsiders in the town speaking various languages. If we were to include Malayalam, we must also add Kannada, Hindi and so on.--CuCl2 (chat  spy acquaint) 17:17, 28 April 2015 (UTC)
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message: The page's "Etymology" section is not about etymology at all, this needs reworking. I suppose the name derives from "Naagar Kovil", "temple of the snake god"?
Mbethke (talk) 12:33, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: , Agreed. "Koil" means temple and Simple English Wikipedia has this description: "Temple of Nagas". The ref there says the name is from derived from an old Jain temple called Naga Raja Temple (temple of the serpent king) - . Don't know if that's reliable. But I think that's what the section should be about. Shanze1 (talk) 13:32, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
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