Template talk:Harry Potter

message: Hi, while doing some poking around relevant to Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Harry Potter music, I noticed that your template had no mention of the soundtracks. I thought it would be a nice addition, so I went ahead, (WP:BOLD,) and did so. Feedback would be appreciated. --RoninBKETC 11:47, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Soundtrack column 

message: Mention of the last film was taken out because "There is no information on this film yet". There is however some information available. See  & . I think some discussion on the matter is needed. --RockerballAustralia 03:36, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the link should be included, because the page exists  BaconLover 19:16, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a link to the DH film article, which redirects to Harry Potter (films).  As all of the discussion on this page is in favor of a link, please DO NOT remove without posting here first.  Thank you.  In regard to the actual article itself, I feel that there is enough information to constitute a separate page for it. Lutherjw 17:04, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: As soon as there is an article on it, you can add it back. John Reaves (talk) 00:56, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  in regard to having the last film in this template 

message: With the addition of 'soundtrack' we now have a template far more heavily weighted in the movie-interpretations and their spin-offs (games soundtracks, et all), whereas the books are an altogether separate canon. Would it not be possible to make the books in a more separate column (which the comic relief books also adhere to)? -Kez 16:50, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you have a specific idea for the formatting change? I don't think we really need to distinguish in a template from canon and noncanon. --Fbv65edel / ☑t / ☛c || 17:38, 17 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Separate books and movies etc. more?

message: The name of the first book is "Philosopher's Stone," not Sorcerer's Stone except in the USA. As the books are British, and all other nations use the proper name then Philosopher should be used. Dewarw 14:08, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I never understood why they changed the title in the first place, considering the Philosopher's Stone is an actual legend of alchemy. Whereas Sorcerer's Stone means next to nothing.  vlad§inger  tlk  17:29, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There (was) a perception that US audiences don't know the correct meaning of 'Philosopher' in the context of the book. A bit like the film title 'The Madness of King George' being used instead of 'The Madness of George III'. --Theoldgoat 21:09, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Philosopher's Stone 

message: Having largely disregarded the organisations section of the template until about three seconds ago, I noticed there were links to Animagus and Metamorphmagus. I understand they are not organisations, but - for want of a better word - magical conditions. Opinions? Thoughts? ~~ THE  DARK LORD  TROMBONATOR (((¶))) 07:39, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hang on... I clicked the wrong link... this discussion will be relocated to Template talk:Harry Potter characters. Entirely my mistake. ~~ THE  DARK LORD  TROMBONATOR (((¶))) 07:50, 21 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regarding organisations 

message: Then she shouldn't be listed alongside the fictional elements of the Harry Potter story. Rather, she should be listed in a separate category, possibly also including Stephen Fry and Jim Dale, though I don't know what the category should be called, nor do I know how to create it. Serendipodous 10:34, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: If Mary Grand Pre is to be included...

message: Are they really needed? Templates should be for navigating: extra things such as years, just clutter it up. RobJ1981 06:59, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I was bold, and just removed them. I've seen quite a few templates (and I checked a few other book series templates), and I see none listing years. Harry Potter shouldn't be an exception. Navigational templates aren't for organizing by lising years. RobJ1981 11:06, 28 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Years being listed in the template

message: Hi, I added these links (see this revision for the links I added). The main reason is that if they aren't in this template, then we have a separate template for the film pages that looks redundant and ugly (I mean, a whole template box for five links) and then we don't get these links on the other pages. I think the links work fine in this template because you can then get to these pages from more than just the film-specific articles and we can remove that ugly/redundant template to boot. So can someone explain why these were reverted? I agree clutter should be minimal, but I think it fits in the template just fine - only one more column, and the template stays the same size. So I'd like to add these back, unless someone has some reasoning why they should be gone. --midkay 18:29, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I've re-added them, I see no problem with listing the differences in the template. The IP that removed it didn't give a reason for removing them (or re-adding the years either). So I've fixed the template. RobJ1981 10:21, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Cool, sounds good, I felt the same: a revert for no reason. I was prepared to re-add them but I hadn't decided what the verdict was on keeping the years; I thus prepared a version of the template that has the differences links as well as the years, in case it's later decided to keep the years. So I'll put the code up, you can find it at User:Midkay/Template:Harrypotter, in case/if ever it's wanted or needed. --midkay 10:47, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Differences between book and film links

message: Hi.  I started a new article, List of alliterative phrases in Harry Potter, at the behest of another editor who didn't think lists belong in the article.  If it's supposed to be put into some template that includes all articles on Harry Potter, by all means... DRosenbach (Talk | Contribs) 02:23, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  New article 

message: What do ppl think of this as a "remake" for the template:
                                                                                                                                                                                        	                                                                                                                                                                                        	                                                                                                                                                                                        	                                                                                                                                                                                        	                                                                                                                                                                                        	
The Philosopher's Stone                                                                                                                                                                 	book                                                                                                                                                                                    	film                                                                                                                                                                                    	book/film differences                                                                                                                                                                   	game                                                                                                                                                                                    	soundtrack
The Chamber of Secrets                                                                                                                                                                  	book                                                                                                                                                                                    	film                                                                                                                                                                                    	book/film differences                                                                                                                                                                   	game                                                                                                                                                                                    	soundtrack
The Prisoner of Azkaban                                                                                                                                                                 	book                                                                                                                                                                                    	film                                                                                                                                                                                    	book/film differences                                                                                                                                                                   	game                                                                                                                                                                                    	soundtrack
The Goblet of Fire                                                                                                                                                                      	book                                                                                                                                                                                    	film                                                                                                                                                                                    	book/film differences                                                                                                                                                                   	game                                                                                                                                                                                    	soundtrack
The Order of the Phoenix                                                                                                                                                                	book                                                                                                                                                                                    	film                                                                                                                                                                                    	book/film differences                                                                                                                                                                   	game                                                                                                                                                                                    	soundtrack
The Half-Blood Prince                                                                                                                                                                   	book                                                                                                                                                                                    	(film)                                                                                                                                                                                  	                                                                                                                                                                                        	                                                                                                                                                                                        	
The Deathly Hallows                                                                                                                                                                     	book                                                                                                                                                                                    	(film)                                                                                                                                                                                  	                                                                                                                                                                                        	                                                                                                                                                                                        	
Other books                                                                                                                                                                             	Other books                                                                                                                                                                             	Other books                                                                                                                                                                             	Other games                                                                                                                                                                             	Other games                                                                                                                                                                             	Other games
Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them  Quidditch Through the Ages                                                                                                                     	Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them  Quidditch Through the Ages                                                                                                                     	Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them  Quidditch Through the Ages                                                                                                                     	Harry Potter: Quidditch World Cup  Lego Creator: Harry Potter                                                                                                                           	Harry Potter: Quidditch World Cup  Lego Creator: Harry Potter                                                                                                                           	Harry Potter: Quidditch World Cup  Lego Creator: Harry Potter
World: Timeline • Characters • Places • Magic • Spells • Objects • Plants • Potions • Beasts  Blood purity • The Dark Arts • Money • Laws • Ministry of Magic • Publications • Quidditch	World: Timeline • Characters • Places • Magic • Spells • Objects • Plants • Potions • Beasts  Blood purity • The Dark Arts • Money • Laws • Ministry of Magic • Publications • Quidditch	World: Timeline • Characters • Places • Magic • Spells • Objects • Plants • Potions • Beasts  Blood purity • The Dark Arts • Money • Laws • Ministry of Magic • Publications • Quidditch	World: Timeline • Characters • Places • Magic • Spells • Objects • Plants • Potions • Beasts  Blood purity • The Dark Arts • Money • Laws • Ministry of Magic • Publications • Quidditch	World: Timeline • Characters • Places • Magic • Spells • Objects • Plants • Potions • Beasts  Blood purity • The Dark Arts • Money • Laws • Ministry of Magic • Publications • Quidditch	World: Timeline • Characters • Places • Magic • Spells • Objects • Plants • Potions • Beasts  Blood purity • The Dark Arts • Money • Laws • Ministry of Magic • Publications • Quidditch
Politics • Fandom • Religious debates • Legal disputes • Parodies • Influences and analogues
Translations • Films • Lego • Theme park • Trading card game 
J.K. Rowling • Mary GrandPré • Jim Dale • Stephen Fry	
Politics • Fandom • Religious debates • Legal disputes • Parodies • Influences and analogues
Translations • Films • Lego • Theme park • Trading card game 
J.K. Rowling • Mary GrandPré • Jim Dale • Stephen Fry	
Politics • Fandom • Religious debates • Legal disputes • Parodies • Influences and analogues
Translations • Films • Lego • Theme park • Trading card game 
J.K. Rowling • Mary GrandPré • Jim Dale • Stephen Fry	
Politics • Fandom • Religious debates • Legal disputes • Parodies • Influences and analogues
Translations • Films • Lego • Theme park • Trading card game 
J.K. Rowling • Mary GrandPré • Jim Dale • Stephen Fry	
Politics • Fandom • Religious debates • Legal disputes • Parodies • Influences and analogues
Translations • Films • Lego • Theme park • Trading card game 
J.K. Rowling • Mary GrandPré • Jim Dale • Stephen Fry	
Politics • Fandom • Religious debates • Legal disputes • Parodies • Influences and analogues
Translations • Films • Lego • Theme park • Trading card game 
J.K. Rowling • Mary GrandPré • Jim Dale • Stephen Fry
Chandlertalk 12:02, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The CoS box sticks out too far on my browser. Is that the same for anyone else? Also, is it possible to shrink the book/film differences title, coz it's way massive compared to everything else. THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 09:53, 27 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Colors 

message: Xhandler, why do you say this looks "retarded"?
Xammer 15:13, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Because that's my opinion of it. Chandlertalk 16:31, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I dislike the 1,2,3,4 ... It should say Philosopher's Stone, Chamber of Secrets, Prisoner of Azkaban, Goblet of Fire, etc.  That would make it look a little less "retarded".  Sorry to those who find the word offensive.  24.49.35.99 (talk) 02:22, 15 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: New design

message: I liked Chandler's design of the template, only if we get the links shorter I think it would be really nice. And maybe a removal of the characters section, keeping the old HP characters template improved, and including a link to the characters' list. Something like this:
Comments? Lord Opeth (talk) 23:37, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[User:Xhandler|Chandler]]'s design 

message: Doesn't it seem weird that she's not there? She should probably be included in whatever template you guys use, too. SouperAwesome (talk) 14:39, 23 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Really? I hadn't thought she was that important :p I'll make sure she gets in. Guess we overlooked it coz she's usually on the title bar. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 00:40, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

text: Done.  Cburnett (talk) 14:17, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Rowling

message: I couldn't take it any more.  Sorry Basar.
I changed it to use one book per line inspired by this version.  I don't care how it ends up but something had to get things going and this talk page is all talk with 20 dozen variants and nothing be done.  Cburnett (talk) 06:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Finally did it 

message: Is the characters section needed in this template?  I'm pretty sure there is a separate template with only the characters. StuartDD contributions 20:29, 13 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The thing is that the characters template is nominated for deletion. Anyway, with the Notability issues, more and more pages are merged, so it would be useless to have a template only for 13 characters and a couple of articles about groups of characters. Lord Opeth (talk) 19:30, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Characters 

message: What has happened to the lovely template we once had?
The gaps on the new one look dreadful.
Sort it out! Go back to an old version that was actually good! Btline (talk) 18:28, 11 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Gonna have to be more specific as to which version you're referring to.  If you look above you'll find that the layout has been quite contentious...  Cburnett (talk) 23:47, 11 February 2008 (UTC)

text: Btline, I don't think that was ever an actual template, just a suggestion for a possible template. Shame, though, I rather liked that one. I also think it is considerably smaller (in terms of screen size, no idea about characters etc) than our current one, and also more visually appealing. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 05:42, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Oh Dear 

message: I do not think that redlinks should appear in the template. The purpose of the template is to allow users to easily navigate the articles on Wikipedia relating to Harry Potter, the red links don't ease navigation of such articles so they may not be appropriate in a navigational template. The normal reason for having redlinks in tables or lists is that it will encourage users to create the pages, in this instance there are enough editors commited to the topic that as soon as the relevent information is available the articles will be quickly created no without the links. In some ways the links are misleading as they indicate that the articles should be created even though at this stage such articles would likley be based on original research and not verifiable information from reliable sources. Any thoughts? Guest9999 (talk) 21:23, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: You make a good point, I wont re-add them until the articles are created. (Maybe commented out until then?) Chandlertalk 21:30, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: What articles would they be then? If some haven't been made yet you could throw some articles my way, I'll be more than glad to create them and edit them. Lord of Moria Talk Contribs 21:17, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This is a really old topic, it was about the film, soundtrack and game for Deathly Hallows, which I guess is under consensus not to create until later as there isn't really much to go on yet. — chandler — 21:20, 5 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Removing redlinks

message: Hope that you like it. It's much easier to read than the other one, I think. Comments and criticisms please!
Could I also ask that you DON'T change it without proper thought. And if you are going to change it, then please don't change it back to the previous one, because it was just an unorganized jumble of words!
Asf08 (talk) 18:15, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I see no difference between this one and the supposedly "unorganized jumble of words" other than the fact that this one is much less visually appealing. All you have changed is the width of page taken up by the template, and the reduction of this has caused it to bunch up text that does not fit across the page (or is this my monitor's fault?). In any case, I find it harder to read than the original, which I consider an organised and coherent way to display such amounts of information. I am considering reverting this, but will wait for any other viewpoints. Further, it would have been more appropriate to design a new template in a user sandbox than to overwrite the existing. -- THE DARK LORD TROMBONATOR 23:34, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of navboxes are in full-width format. Also, sorting characters and lists into "Main" and "Supporting" is rather subjective. Who says that Luna alone is more important to the plot than all of the Death Eaters alone and as an organization? And one more addition: the titles of "Spin-off canon" move when they become bold (when the article is visited) and the sub-section has three lines and only four articles listed. --LøЯd ۞pεth 04:54, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: New Template

message: Anyone thinks this template should mention the Harry Potter fansites (those notable ones that have articles, as listed at :Category:Harry Potter websites). I think this is an important part of Wikipedia coverage of Harry Potter. Comments? --PeaceNT (talk) 10:57, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with your idea, as fansites aren't part of the franchise and have nothing to do with it. Jammy (talk) 16:28, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think everything in this template is part of the franchise. Also, Harry Potter Fandom is mentioned and the fansites can be considered related, too. Was just thinking a comprehensive template may make easier navigation... --PeaceNT (talk) 02:42, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting idea...I don't feel strongly either way, but I wouldn't mind if sites such as the Harry Potter Lexicon and MuggleNet were added. faithless (speak) 02:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree with it. They are not part of the fictional universe and are not part of the franchise as well. The related section should only list general and main matters. For example, the list of cast members instead of listing every actor, or the HP fandom article instead of listing all websites and HP derived bands. --LøЯd ۞pεth 04:49, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fansites 

message: Should there be a section for cast (Radcliffe, Grint, Watson, etc.) of the films? I'm not necessarily saying that I think there should be, just that it should be brought up. faithless (speak) 18:27, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If you ask me, most definitely not. It sounds like a good idea but it will soon become unwieldy, especially considering the templates already-too-large size. Plus we already have List of Harry Potter cast members, which will always be much more complete. Mr. Absurd (talk) 19:12, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I would tend to agree with you; it's also probably worth mentioning that comparable templates (i.e. Template:The Lord of the Rings and Template:Star Wars) do not have such a section. However, I have seen a few that do (from admittedly smaller series) - I just figured it was worth at least discussing. :-) faithless (speak) 20:10, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: No, I see your point—it's good to bring it up. Mr. Absurd (talk) 21:33, 19 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cast section? 

message: Can someone fix this please. IMO the only real way is to remove the seven column and go back to 7 lines. See Portal talk:Harry Potter#Harry Potter navbox -- SGBailey (talk) 22:49, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've addressed this issue--71.187.173.34 (talk) 06:35, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

text: --Via linebreaks within the book titles.--71.187.173.34 (talk) 02:51, 28 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Template far too wide

message: I am the only one noticing that the template has 7 groups but only shows 6? The Attractions section is not seen. Can some admin fix this? --LoЯd ۞pεth 02:27, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: only supports a maximum of 6 groups, so you'll need to seek an increase there or regroup the articles in this template. BencherliteTalk 06:33, 12 July 2011 (UTC)

text: . :) Edenc1 • Talk 11:11, 12 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem with template 

message: I believe the Wonderbook Book of Spells game should appear in the list of games on the template now.  68.53.225.204 (talk) 06:53, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: . Edenc1 • Talk 11:13, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wonderbook Book of Spells 

message: The columns for each story currently have links under the book title to the corresponding film, soundtrack, and game. In the case of Deathly Hallows, these three links are each on a different line, whereas the other columns have film and soundtrack on one line and game on the line below. Not sure if there necessarily needs to be a column for Cursed Child, but when that column was created a few days ago, the Goblet of Fire column also switched to three lines, one for each media type. For uniformity's and aesthetic pleasure's sakes, should we set each column to have three lines, one for film, another for soundtrack, and a third for game? The "third line" for the first six stories is just an empty space at this point, so I figured maybe we can make it look nicer and more uniform. Then, whether Cursed Child gets a column of its own or not, the columns will look fairly similar. -RM (talk) 14:48, 11 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: the multi-column format is very bad, especially on a narrow screen.  we should reformat the navbox to use standard groups/lists. Frietjes (talk) 16:58, 10 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree that something should be done, but I'm not sure the standard format works either. It'd leave four groups in a row with almost exactly the same content. —Flax5 14:15, 31 July 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Would people prefer something like this? —Flax5 11:04, 8 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  no objections, so done. Frietjes (talk) 14:29, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text:  Sorry for coming late to the party, but I think a separate group for the films (which would include the soundtracks) would be more appropriate.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 15:04, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Would the games also be given a second line, or be kept with the films, which they're also derivative of? (Trying to spatially represent 31 works which only have seven names between them is such a weird problem!) —Flax5 15:35, 5 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd be inclined to put the games in the "Games and toys" section.  However this is done, I think it's important to separate the books from the films.  --Rob Sinden (talk) 15:40, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

text: Something like this, but we can lose some of the "Harry Potter and...".  --Rob Sinden (talk) 15:58, 5 September 2016 (UTC)

text:  I did this is one of my sandboxes for practise and I agree that it ends up a little wonky with so many columns. I think this version is definitely the best.*Trekker (talk) 07:44, 30 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Formatting of columns for each book 

message: Would it be too far-fetched to add Pollomuhku ja Posityyhtynen on the line “Related works” (or “Related”)? Currently there is only Pottermore. --Mlang.Finn (talk) 19:05, 7 June 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pollomuhku ja Posityyhtynen 

message: I come with this proposal to split the Fandom section into a separate navbox, since this current version of this navbox is extremely large, with hundreds of links. Main reasons are that this is one of the largest (if not the largest) sections of the navbox, and because it has an article on the subject. Thoughts? --LoЯd ۞pεth 00:33, 17 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split proposal