Talk:Caul

message: Only one type of caul, and two variants are described?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 31.49.99.114 (talk) 04:20, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: "There are two types of caul membranes, and there are four ways such cauls can appear."

message: I think "remnants" is the key word.
This article contradicts itself. At the bottom it says the caul is also called The Veil but then it says "Not to be confused with the remnants of the amnion or birth sac" which is exactly the definition previously given for caul. 
So does the folk tradition hold that these are two different things? I'm confused.
I came to the same conclusion as the above unsigned comment, and I added the "contradict" template. I entered "amnion" in the Wikipedia search field and it redirected to "amniotic sac", exactly what the caul is supposedly made of. Art LaPella 03:10, 24 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The article still contradicts itself: "A caul ... is a thin, filmy membrane, the remnants of the amniotic sac," in the first paragraph, and "A distinction needs to be made in relation to the birth caul and the adhesion of the birth (amniotic) sac to the face or head of a child at birth. The birth caul, more usually just called a caul, is a complete membrane covering the face of the child. The amniotic sac, or amnion, is another completely different kind of membrane" later. For what it's worth, the second description is the understanding I always had while growing up, but I've haven't any medical references for it. As for folklore, as a caulbearer myself I was told it meant I would be a werewolf. Again for what it's worth, though -- the only reference is my own memory, and I don't even remember whether it was my grandmother herself who said it or my mom who said it was what my grandmother said! Then again, for "folklore", is there a better reference than the folk?--Bedawyn 16:56, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Caul vs. Amniotic Sac

message: Are there any famous people who were known or rumored to be born with a Caul?
==I was born with a caul but I am not famous...or at least not yet!
According to Wikipedia, British World War 2 entertainer George Formby was born with a caul that made him temporarily blind. Hardly harmless? Albert Einstein
  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.49.202.124 (talk) 08:51, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Famous People

message: I merged the caulbearer article and redirected it here because I don't think a separate article is necessary. Also, this article already discussed the legends. I just put the material in a new section rather than fully integrating it because the information should be verified by a reliable source. -- Kjkolb 05:48, 19 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Caulbearer

message: For lack of any better sources, I've added the public-domain Dickens quote and a couple of web links, one for medicine and one for folklore. Both are brief, but I suppose better than nothing. For the record, I do not consider the caulbearer.org site a reputable source, as it's promoting a particular ideology and gives no other primary or secondary cites for its information on cauls (although the information itself either agrees with or does not contradict what I always thought of as common knowledge). On the other hand, as a caulbearer myself, I found the site's existence mildly entertaining, so perhaps it has its value as a web link. It just makes me twitchy to see it as the only link and the only thing on the page remotely resembling a source. (I also moved the unsigned Christy Moore bit down here to keep the amnion vs. caul discussion clearer.)--Bedawyn 23:20, 29 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: In August someone added the quotation marks to the Dickens quote -- is that standard Wikipedia style? It's not proper formatting in general -- quoted text should be given quotation marks or block-indented, but not both. If I'd seen Wikipedia recommend both, I'm sure I'd have complained before and remembered it, but I haven't time to hunt up the style pages now. If no one else fixes it sooner, at least this note will remind me to look it up when I have the time later. On the other hand, my copyeditor's heart is screaming at leaving it as is, especially given how disproportionately huge the curly quotes are, so I'll go ahead and fix it now. If you have time to look up the style guides and they recommend using both, feel free to revert and I'll take it up with the style folks when I have time.--Bedawyn 00:26, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: what does it mean in the bible Leviticus 3:4 and the caul above the liver,? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 146.235.66.52 (talk) 14:36, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  what does it mean in the bible 

message: I was mystified as to what this had to do with fashion until I saw the short section at the bottom. I really think that should be a separate article. Any arguments as to why it should stay? Daniel Case 20:49, 16 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split the headgear section off 

message: To my mind, all references to 'legend' are erroneous and ought to read 'myth'.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 61.68.12.184 (talk) 21:27, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legend v. Myth 

message: It seems obvious to me that everything after the Dickens quote in the Legend section has to be removed, being unsubstantiated for a very long time. The same applies to the entire section Notable people and fictional characters "born in the caul". What do others say? Maybe we could lodge some of it in the Talk page to allow devotees a further period to find references.  Aeronian (talk) 05:55, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Uncited trivia 

message: I think the paragraph starting with "The positive myths associated with being born in the caul have a physiological basis ..." is the last remaining medicinically dubious part of this article. After that the expert attention template should go. Tomdo08 (talk) 05:12, 2 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The experts have been here, at least for the original problems. Therefor I will remove the expert attention template. -- Tomdo08 (talk) 23:31, 5 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  positive myths and physiological basis, expert attention 

message: Orson Scott Card's "Tales of Alvin Maker Series" travels a thread from the first of I believe six books, "Seventh Son", whereby the main character is born with a caul that a little girl present at his birth must save, and throughout their lives, use its properties to guide the pathways of his life away from millions of paths leading to death and down paths of significant fulfillment. Thistledowne (talk) 17:43, 25 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Addition to Literature 

message: In the film
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Conversation
the main character is named harry caul
and can be seen wearing a transparent raincoat,
most probably symbolizing a caul.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.220.102.24 (talk) 23:45, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Film 

message: The poorly explained and poorly cited part under the history section that reads "Not all cultural beliefs about cauls are positive. In Romanian folklore, babies born with a caul are said to become vampires upon death.[citation needed]" is likely refering to Kudlaks and Kresniks. spirits of dark and light respectively, with kudlaks becoming vampires after death
These sources touch briefly on them, but better sources and explanations surely exist
http://www.vampirerave.com/member_articles2.php?entry=159
http://mythsandlegends.altervista.org/sample.html  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hatesdigimon (talk • contribs) 07:51, 26 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Kudlak and Kresnik 

message: In Italian I know just "nascere con la camicia" and not "vitta" (that is a very uncommon name). In any case, should be "camicia" and not "camisia" and I do not know why there is "indusium" as well into brackets... Whilst I wait for your response, I am going to change at least camisia in camicia. --Elcaracol (talk) 00:31, 7 December 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  In Italian 

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