Talk:Tabon Caves

message: I am in full agreement with tag.  Further again I appreciate your input.  Since we last wrote I introduced a large amount of may and might and appears. 
I discussed this with a writer and she encouraged me to do scrappings...which I would never consider.
I also read the page on editor wars and hope this doesn't become one. 
It would be great if the upper two possible images were not Buddist. That likely makes them older. 
This is largey a uncommonly visited cave and the traffic on wiki reflects that.  Before adding links and pictures within the cave traffic was around 10-20 per day. The cave to the North with zero evidence any human habitation at all has about 250 page reads a day. It has a nice river. I checked, nothing looks painted on the massive walls.
To any third party let me be clear we are not debating a tiny faded photograph.  These are huge works standing meters tall. Further many features are 3-D in the form of a relief or carving into the cave wall. 
I am going back to the cave again and again taking photos. Looking at photos they must appear to be proportional, have arms, heads, eyes where they should be, or, something must show it was broken away.  Any statement based on the photo can only lend support to existing ideas for the area.  We know the Philippines changed from primarily animalists, to buddhists, to Islam, then Catholic.  
Looking closely at my recent photos I can see breaks in the cave wall left of man on lion and right of monkey on horse heads. To me this is a clear sign the images used to be more complete and a wall used to bridge the gap. 
I am looking for photos now how cave was when originally found. Pbmaise (talk) 06:19, 22 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: please see my response to the third opinion request above.  Everything you have said is the very definition of original research, which is better published in peer-reviewed journals, and which Wikipedia doesn't allow until it has been published elsewhere. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 15:22, 26 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Reply Maise June 22

message: I firmly disagree.  Wikipedia specifically allows an editor to take photos and post them provided they do not introduce a new concept.  
Buddhism in the area is not a new concept and I have attempted to now remove attempts to explain what the photos are. Dark blotches if acceptable to you only greatly increase speculation that the images are magical. 
Is this lion dog found outside the cave on a rock magical?  I placed this onto a blog spot before posting here.  May I describe this image appears to be a dog because four paws, body, head, and it is scratching itself for fleas?
http://tabonman.blogspot.com/2015/06/find-ancient-image-challenge-1.html
Pbmaise (talk) 00:25, 27 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Can people see photos?

message: I became concerned because conversation on this topic seems to have died over the last few months.  I went ahead and removed what appeared to be original research from the article.  At this point I am acting as an editor; no longer as a WP:3O volunteer.  If anyone has further concerns or wants to dispute my actions, feel free to take it to the OR noticeboard. ~ ONUnicorn(Talk|Contribs)problem solving 20:06, 4 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original Research removed. 

message: Does anyone have further info/source material/ images of the Garuda Gold Pendant? I would like to research it further.
Many thanksElla Dawn	 15:13, 13 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the Garuda Gold Pendant in the section of the Tabon Caves because this artifact was not found in the Tabon cave complex. They are acquired from Uring-Uring (not excavated) in Brooke's Point Ngiping kidlat (talk) 08:12, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tabon Caves Garuda Gold Pendant