Talk:Devi Mahatmya

message: so far so good... (Ekabhishek 06:19, 23 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Major revision planned

message: I know Devi Māhātmya. That is all. I would welcome discussions before changing the contents. 
Thank you.
--Sankarrukku 13:44, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Please read this

message: The Devi Māhātmya is believed to have crystallized in its present form during the 9th-10th century, and is believed to be originally authored by rishi Markandeya. However, the original Markandeya Purana text is much older, and one of the verses in the Devi Mahatmya appears in an inscription (dated 608) on the Dadhimatimata temple in the former kingdom of Jodhpur.
The date contradicts referenced date of 400-500CE.--Redtigerxyz 05:55, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Not worthy of Lead 

message: Only quotable imporatant sentences should be highlighted not eveything.--Redtigerxyz 06:04, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Quotes 

message: The four Hymns are:
* Sakradi-stuti (Chapter 4): "having Indra (Sakra) as first (adi)" ???? 
It is an explanation of the name Sakradi--Sankarrukku 12:29, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's confusing so removing "(Sakra) as first (adi)" part.--Redtigerxyz 12:36, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

text: She is goddess of the night. "Ratri means She who fulfills our prayers". is wrong.--Redtigerxyz 12:36, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Confusing 

message: The deity in Sapthashringi is Ashtadasabuja (eighteen armed)  Mahalakshmi (Chandi). She is known locally as Sapthashringi Devi. Please see http://www.nashik.com/travel/shirdi.html where she is referred to as Mahisha Mardini. You can check with the priest there or any local Saktha Tantrik. 
I will answer your other queries in a week or so.
Please do not delete anything till then. Thank you. --Sankarrukku 08:43, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Vani is believed to be a half shakti peeth. The mahalaxmi is of Kolhapur.--Redtigerxyz 10:52, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

text: Also Durga is already present. This image is overcrowding the space.--Redtigerxyz 10:59, 20 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I had removed it only once. Second time i just shifted it.--Redtigerxyz 13:51, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sapthashringi Devi

message: Liturgy in religion, may refer to, or include, an elaborate formal ritual. See Liturgy. In this case the Appendages are part of the formal ritual reading.--Sankarrukku 10:24, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I checked the dictionary. Wouldn't Appendages be more appropriate.--Redtigerxyz 10:57, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Liturgy

message: The meaning is - [verb] move, travel, or proceed toward some place; "He repaired to his cabin in the woods"
http://www.elook.org/dictionary/repair.html--Sankarrukku 10:42, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I know. "repair to" is old-fashioned english. Please use a more revalent verb. This is want i want.--Redtigerxyz 10:55, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: The term "repair to"

message: The terminology used should be correct. Indra is the first among the Devas. Not their leader. That is why the term "adi".
Again "repair" is used as proceeding in despair. The subtility and nuances of both Sanskrit and English has to be understood.
--Sankarrukku 12:58, 20 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Terminology

message: I have deleted the reference to persons who wrote the commentaries. Sri Ramakrishna never wrote a commentary on this. Swami Sivananda and Swami Satyananda Saraswati wrote commentaries which are some of the sources. Mentioning anyone from any region of India will lead to a controversy, as commentaries have been written in almost all languages like Tamil, Bengali, Marathi, and Hindi. Everyone swears by a different commentary depending on the region. 
Many people are considered saints by their followers.
Thanks.--Sankarrukku 07:23, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: well, this should be explained, then. You should add a paragraph to the effect that "Everyone swears by a different commentary depending on the region" rather than removing references to commentaries. --dab (𒁳) 07:33, 22 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Devi Mahatmya in popular tradition

message: Though the figure of Shiva is known in Devī Māhātmya the goddess bears no special relationship to him. In fact she bears no special relationship with anyone other than her devotees. While each God has a Sakti, Devī Māhātmya avoids characterizing such forms as consorts, for the Goddess is Shakti, power itself beyond the realm of being a consort to anyone. Devī Māhātmya does not know the conceptualization that Sakti is feminine and its possessor or vehicle masculine, for as it is seen, the Goddess herself can put forth a Sakti.
None of the forms of the Goddess are consorts of any God. Mahakali is not Kali (consort of Siva), Mahalakshmi is not Lakshmi (consort of Vishnu), and Mahasaraswati is not Saraswati (consort of Brahma). 
Please do not link to the articles of these Devis.
Again Chandi is not exactly the popular Durga since she is not the consort of any God
Thank you. 
--Sankarrukku 16:18, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Dear Sankarrukku, two things - 
# a new discussion topic always goes below the existent ones as Talk guidelines. Press + sign, besides "edit the page" to start new discussion.
# The Mahakali form is discussed in Kali article. The iconography of Kali and Mahakali is similar with both of them standing on Shiva , their tongues displayed , with skulls and serpents around.--Redtigerxyz 13:34, 25 October 2007 (UTC)

text: I checked some net books. The Mahakali of The Devi Mahatmya seems to refer to Mahamaya. The Mahalaxmi to Mahishasura mardini but I also found references of them intrepreted as greater forms of the three goddesses in other ref like Mahakali and Kolhapur Mahalakshmi. The ten headed , ten legged, 10 armed Mahakali, standing on Shiva (a image in this form was part of Kali article, but was recently deleted) is assumed to greator form of Kali due to maybe "popular misconception". WP should have both the views the popular view and expert view.--Redtigerxyz 12:23, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

text: The diety of Kolhapur Mahalakshmi temple is considered "Lakshmi" , thats why the Tirupati Balaji Temple sends a saree for the goddess every Navaratri. She is considered the first wife of Vishnu-Balaji; who was angry with Vishnu and left Vaikunth heading for earth. Many vendors at the temple also sell combined portaits of Mahalakshmi and Balaji together.--Redtigerxyz 12:23, 26 October 2007 (UTC)

text: the Action of Sankarrukku is against Wikipedia:Build the web policy. I request him/her to create the pages and accept the links temporarily til the pages are called as the non-experts will find it difficult to identify the terms Chandi, Mahakali ,Mahalakshmi is not Lakshmi ( and Mahasaraswati. Please retain the links til appropiate pages are not created.--Redtigerxyz 12:23, 26 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Please note while tweaking the article or making any changes

message: Is this article of sufficient length or should it be expanded further? Any suggestions for expansion? Thanks.--Sankarrukku 03:29, 24 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Does this need further expansion?

message: Too many paras : not in accordance with WP:LEAD. Ambigious entences like "The four hymns are considered sweet" - which four hymns??? Their mention first in the article is in the Contents part. So the sentence belongs there. I will try to improve by shifting some matter elsewhere in the article.--Redtigerxyz 14:25, 27 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problems Lead  

message: Both titles are used.  the +m first vibhakti (kartr- kAraka) singular 
affix acts as an honorific for the nominal, and using it unambiguously 
indicates this text; without it the phrase may be just the 
common noun, glory of the goddess.  Hence it would be good 
if we retained the "+m" which is usually used in Sanskrit
references to the title of this text.
I cleaned up the lead and removed some of the repetitious aspects (e.g.
relating to Shaktism); but the main body has a lot of less
relevant aspects that require considerable cleanup.  mukerjee (talk) 07:10, 12 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Title: Devi mahatmya or devi mahatyam

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message: Kali is a angered form of Sarah La Kali due to her children being attacked behind her back as well as herself, from what is know as the 'evil eye.' 2601:58B:4101:9C0:C180:AADF:62A5:37A8 (talk) 19:09, 29 January 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Associate with Sarah La Kali