Talk:JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

message: It is claimed in the "Controversy" section that complaints were made by "Egyptian Islamic fundamentalists". This is not reliably sourced (the citation is to an unsourced opinion piece) and the news sources I've read make no mention of their nationality nor describe them as fundamentalists.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.122.93.147 (talk) 03:55, 6 October 2017 (UTC)
replies: text: It's just some stupid sockpuppet trying to claim that the anime was made by terrorists. Don't worry 'bout it. ⌤TheMitochondriaBoi⌤(Wanna talk?)(Contributions)(My stats) 20:27, 15 March 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Egyptian Islamic Fundamentalists" 

message: I don't know who changed all the names to the All Star Battle versions (stuff like Killer Queen -> Deadly Queen or Gold Experience -> Golden wind). But if they're not reverted soon, I'm going to fix them myself and add a note at the end of each character paragraph stating the name change. Whatever trademark damage control is in effect for official stuff brought out in English doesn't take priority on a place like wikipedia. You are not "protecting" Araki and Lucky Land by doing this. 198.53.171.148 (talk) 05:02, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone has unilaterally decided to make this change and it will be reverted shortly.—Ryūlóng (琉竜) 09:09, 8 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adapted names should take lesser precedence than the actual names 

message: I've noticed that on the main template about the series that there is a comment that Viz has only licensed the first four parts of the series.  However the statement has not been cited, and leaves me wondering how accurate that statement is.  Is there anyone who can cite a source that confirms that statement, because otherwise I think it's only speculation at this point.
Normaschthewanderer (talk) 23:53, 21 October 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably it is based on these news but they haven't said anything about Part 5 onwards as far as I heard.Tintor2 (talk) 01:35, 22 October 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Viz licensing only the first four parts 

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message: Within the JoJo's Bizarre Adventure series, especially the Stardust Crusaders section, Araki makes frequent references to real-life musicians and fashion designers  See ref.. Enclosed below is a table that I have created based on my research of the series. I am seeking comments on whether this information (possibly expanded with other contributions) should be included within the main article.Funhand's note:The list is in Merging Dio Brando. Wikipedia must fix this glich.
Character                                          	Original name                           	Type
Jean Pierre Polnareff                              	Michel Polnareff                        	Musician
Iggy                                               	Iggy Pop                                	Musician
Holly Kujo                                         	Buddy Holly                             	Musician
Roses                                              	Guns N' Roses                           	Musical Group
Enya                                               	Enya                                    	Musician
Devo the Cursed                                    	Devo                                    	Musical Group
Rubber Soul                                        	Rubber Soul by the Beatles              	Musical Album
Midler                                             	Bette Midler                            	Singer
Wired Beck                                         	Jeff Beck album Wired                   	Musician
D'Arby                                             	Terrence Trent D’arby                   	Musician
N'Doul                                             	Youssou  N'Dour                         	Musician
Vanilla Ice                                        	Vanilla Ice                             	Musician
Captain Tennille                                   	Captain  and Tennille                   	Musical Group
Zeppeli                                            	Led Zeppelin                            	Musical Group
Robert E.O. Speedwagon                             	REO Speedwagon                          	Musical Group
Plant, Page, etc Zombies                           	Led Zeppelin                            	Musical Group
Kars                                               	The Cars                                	Musical Group
Esidesi                                            	AC/DC                                   	Musical Group
Manish Boy                                         	Manish Boy by Muddy Waters              	Song Title
Aja Stone                                          	Aja by Steely Dan                       	Musical Album
Michael, Prince, Lionel - Avdol’s Father’s chickens	Michael Jackson, Prince, Lionel Ritchie 	Musicians
Gold Experience                                    	The Gold Experience by Prince           	Song Title
Crazy Diamond                                      	Shine on You Crazy Diamond by Pink Floyd	Song Title
Steely Dan                                         	Steely Dan                              	Musician
Doggystyle                                         	Doggystyle by meme king Snoop Dogg      	Musical Album
Arrowsmith                                         	Arrowsmith                              	Musical Group
The Hand                                           	The Band                                	Musical Group
Seeking your feedback. Ozflashman (talk) 05:01, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: A straight-up list of musical references like that is inappropriate for an encyclopedic article. Individual references can be included in each character's entry in List of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure characters assuming they are backed up by a reliable source - regardless of how obvious it might seem to us, because we don't allow original research on Wikipedia. It's also fair to include a few  (sourced) examples in the Production sections, like I did with Zeppeli/Led Zeppelin and Dio/God in Phantom Blood#Creation of characters.--Alexandra IDVtalk 11:19, 26 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Musical References 

message: NOTE: Section by —Ryūlóng (琉竜) 04:04, 25 January 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't see the need for colors wouldn't that be more necessary for the anime? I mean the manga is black and white.Tintor2 (talk) 23:14, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text:  I just transferred the article from Talk:JoJo's Bizarre Adventure (2012 TV series) to here, because this is a more appropriate location - not making any judgments yet. You're right, the color scheme applies more to the anime series, but I think it's worth reviewing all of the articles for consistency. Ozflashman (talk) 06:35, 28 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: @Tintor2 There's a colored version of the manga btw XD 47A74 (talk) 17:50, 21 May 2020 (UTC)

text: I'm assuming that these colours are being used in table cells to differentiate series from one another?  —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  23:58, 29 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Series color codes 

message: Found a Japan Times article on the Quran controversy http://web.archive.org/web/20081222071711/http://search.japantimes.co.jp/cgi-bin/nn20080523a1.html 
WhisperToMe (talk) 16:25, 1 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional references 

message: --99.199.42.245 (talk) 00:55, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: We don't list wikis here because they are pretty much fansites and can't be considered reliable due to the way they are edited. Yeah, just like Wikipedia but that doesn't make Wikipedia a reliable source either.Tintor2 (talk) 11:37, 10 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikis 

message: Under Phantom Blood in Plot, the year should be changed to 1888 because the entire series but the first and last episodes, which take place in 1880 and 1889 respectively, as already said on Wikipedia here. If 1888 is too specific, it should at least be 1880s. 47A74 (talk) 02:49, 21 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Wikipedia cannot be used as a source. Interstellarity (talk) 14:19, 23 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 21 May 2020 

message: Hi . Thanks for rewriting the article. In regards to the "Supernatural powers" section, could you consider possibly bringing back the mentions of Hamon and Stands? They cross multiple parts. It doesn't need to go into much detail as before, but they definitely make up a major portion of the series. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 )  00:18, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello , thank you for noticing that. I think they should be mentioned as well; I have currently slotted them in the plot descriotions of Phantom Blood and Stardust Crusaders, but feel free to rewrite to expand/better position the info. (I plan to keep refining this article/possibly take to GA, so maybe I will find a better solution). — Goszei (talk)  00:31, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of the "Supernatural powers" section 

message: * What I think should be changed: In the section about part 8, JoJolion, it says there are 94 chapters, when it is currently at 100, and ongoing
* Why it should be changed: Incorrect number
* References supporting the possible change (format using the "cite" button): https://jojowiki.com/JoJolion 100 chapters, JJL Ch. 1 - Ongoing
Rogue5132 (talk) 01:40, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. - FlightTime (open channel) 01:44, 24 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Change to number of chapters  

message: Kio0i;lnhjl;ijhk (talk) 14:09, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. EN-Jungwon 16:32, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 18 January 2021 

message: "Plot" section states that part 8 has 103 chapters. As of April 9th, 2021, there are 105 chapters. Change 103 to 105. MarcyStardust (talk) 17:37, 9 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 9 April 2021 

message: In ==Video Games== I would request you add Eyes of Heaven as the most recent title, which had Araki help in it's creation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwGyaRkq8CU. Here is a source unless you need something else. [User:JojoScaryMonsters|JojoScaryMonsters]] (talk) 14:36, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Question: , could you provide a source for that? Link20XX (talk) 14:40, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: YouTube is not a reliable source, going to need something else. Link20XX (talk) 15:07, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  That's actually not the case. What WP:YOUTUBE is concerned with is that there are a lot of videos on there that count as copyright violations. Videos could be used if it comes directly from a reliable source's channel; in this case, the channel in question is Bandai Namco, and the claim is given support at 3:01. Using this video would count as a primary source, so its addition should be carefully considered for how appropriate it is to be added; a secondary source would be much better. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 15:28, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for the correction, guess I just saw the "all social media is unreliable" people and took it. Anyway, the edit request has already been declined so this is pointless now. Link20XX (talk) 15:31, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

text: This article's details on video games in general is more of a summary.  If you want to add information about that to List of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure video games, you should be able to. Link20XX (talk) 15:33, 24 May 2021 (UTC)

text: Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. Melmann 15:21, 24 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 24 May 2021 

message: https://studiostorehouse.com/jojo-tarot-cards/
Please add the link https://studiostorehouse.com/jojo-tarot-cards/ Manisha Puri (talk) 07:47, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: No need for external link. ScottishFinnishRadish (talk) 11:14, 17 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 17 June 2021 

message: Jojo lands has not been released yet, so it is in accurate Mystic880 (talk) 18:24, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It's been confirmed by ANN news, so I'm not sure what the issue is. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 19:20, 31 August 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can some one please revert the nine story arcs? 

message: Add the following paragraph (Along with the source) in between 2nd and 3rd paragraph of the "Production" section.
In creating the manga's generational story, Araki thought much about death and the legacy people leave behind in their lives for their descendants, after the death of his grandfather. He took inspiration from the American television series Roots: The Saga of an American Family, and the novel East of Eden. Roots follows the life of African-American slave Kunta Kinte and his descednants, which while watching Araki began to see as a story of family at heart as opposed to one about slavery and racial discrimination. East of Eden's story centered around the intertwined destiny and rivalry of 2 families, as they pass the torch down to their offspring. He thought highly of stories that could replace its protagonist and still do well. This influneced Araki's decision to ultimately kill Jonathan Joestar and write a generational story as opposed to focusing on a single protagonist, passing on his "Spirit" to his own descendants.
Use the source I provided. The following is for clarity (Do not add it into the article), but the content of the book itself is explained in and cited this TikTok for your convenience and further knowledge if you deem it necessary. https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPdjdpBUS/
To verify this information is accurate, here is a PDF and an Archive link to the full text of the book. You can search pages 102 and 171 to find him talking about the two stories. Feel free to alter the paragraph if it isn't up to standard.
2603:8080:F600:A9BA:EDB1:495F:D4EB:8C6F (talk) 05:50, 5 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: added reftalk  melecie  t - 05:58, 5 December 2021 (UTC)

text: Not done for now: please establish a consensus for this alteration before using the  template. - FlightTime (open channel) 22:35, 13 December 2021 (UTC)

text: Why would I need to establish a consensus if the information is accurate? Is that not the whole point of an edit request, to establish a consensus? 2603:8080:F600:5AD6:D98A:E999:12E3:923E (talk) 21:03, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Take it easy. I'll see if I can put it.Tintor2 (talk) 22:20, 14 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: I didn't mean to come off as angry, apologies. 2603:8080:F600:5AD6:D98A:E999:12E3:923E (talk) 23:01, 14 December 2021 (UTC)

text: I trimmed it down, as it started to go off on a tangent and there were copyediting issues. IP editor, edit requests only require consensus if the proposed changes are controversial, which may require evaluating sources to see if they're reliable. For example, this is a tricky one to determine, as the source used is written by the author himself and would be considered a primary source. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 07:32, 15 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 December 2021 

message: i dont know if there is a consensus on this already but i was browsing through jojolands and non of the stands source names are wikilinked (if they need to be. it would be nice but i have 0 idea if its MOS:OL.)  do we have a collective consensus on if it's possible to link to their source band/album/songs?? -Astral~(he/him/his) 21:05, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not about having a consensus, that kind of info needs to be cited with reliable sources and not just assumed. So unless you are aware of some interviews or something with Araki explicitly confirming he named Stand x after band x, etc., it can't be added per WP:OR. The example I always use is how everyone thought Dio was named after the metal singer or his eponymous band, but we now know his name comes the Italian word for gold. Also, this kind of info should be included in a separate sentence such as "The Zeppeli name is derived from the English rock band Led Zeppelin", and not just by linking the first mention of Zeppeli to the band's article. Xfansd (talk) 21:56, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Dio is the Italian word for god, not gold. In the interview that was bundled into the PS2 Phantom Blood game, he mentions that part of Dio's namesake also comes from the . —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 23:30, 26 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: wouldnt WP:NOR also allow reliable secondary sources, not just author stated? so, not just citing like, jojowiki, but a news source stating that's where the name comes from? -Astral~(he/him/his) 00:12, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Ideally, but interviews are considered WP:PRIMARY. Content shouldn't be directly taken from JojoWiki due to WP:UGC, but its sources should be evaluated to see if they're fit to be considered RSes here. —Tenryuu 🐲 ( 💬 • 📝 ) 00:15, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: yeah, so we don't *just* need primary sources to cite this all, because i doubt this man has interview confirmed near every stand in this universe, especially in the recent years. i'll work on either finding more interviews or getting a good amount of WP:RS that arent WP:PRIMARY. this helps atleast, to see what all needs to be done so we can somehow wikilink the actual source on the pages. thnx >:3 -Astral~(he/him/his) 00:21, 27 February 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  wikilinking stands consensus