Talk:Hentai/Archive 1

message: Should something be done about all those H somethings and List of H somethings? I think that
*These pages are already included in the category H, so they can safely be delinked from this page. Some of them can still be linked from the article text, of course. Furthermore, the :Category:Hentai currently only has 18 pages, while it should have all pages linked from these lists as well (or its subcategories should). Paranoid 17:00, 9 Dec 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Excessive See also 

message: Most people objected to the content I've just added here being found under "Cartoon", so I moved it here instead.   If the content is useful, it will probably be redistributed into other sections.  The first two paragraphs could be sectioned "On the Internet", and the third one, perhaps "Motivations".  But that's up to those who enjoy this page enough to edit it.  Steverapaport 18:05, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Moved some content here from elsewhere 

message: University studies in the area of psychology and psychoanalysis explain that Hentai is a direct consequence of some generations oppressed and restrained in the Japanese society. Now, after the opening and of the wave of "freedom occidental person" who takes Japan since 70's, the Hentai gains force, stimulated for the Internet. --193.188.105.22 04:07, 18 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hentai - reflection of a restrained society 

message: There seems to be something odd with the Japanese at the end of the first paragraph. I don't speak the language, but I'm not sure that a 1 and 8 belong in there.
:"juu hachi kin anime" (１８禁アニメ）
Evil Monkey∴Hello 06:32, May 26, 2005 (UTC)
１８禁 (18 prohibition) means that you have to be 18 years old. Or rather, that it is pornography.
Philip Nilsson 13:52, 26 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay then. Just looked odd, though maybe someone had got the wrong unicode. Evil Monkey∴Hello 00:35, May 27, 2005 (UTC)
I added information to the first paragraph. Specifically "seinen" (成年; adult), and changed "never" to "rarely" in regard to how the word is used in Japan. It's used, just not as often as in the States. nihon 16:04, 30 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Japanese at the end of the first paragraph 

message: If you're new to Wikipedia, please read Wikipedia:External links. That document is the guideline that moderates concerns with respect to disputes about external linking.
The links I've removed from this page:
* 3 directories (hentaiseeker, banzaihentai and adult hentai search). Normally we would leave one of these, but all three appear to be commercial services that offer hentai, not directories of unaffiliated resources. If they were notable on their own, then we might create pages for them, but they are neither true directories nor notable.
* 4 TGP sites. These are pure ad spam pages, and have no information relative to hentai.
* 1 picture rating page which, in my 2-minute perusal, appeared to be nothing more than another TGP.
If you feel that any specific site that was listed should be re-listed, please discuss it here in terms of the policy linked to, above. Thanks.
:Thoroughly agreed. Wikipedia must not be abused to promote commercial Web sites. --FOo 20:05, 19 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Sorry I was slow to respond. Yes, I agree that it makes sense. Feel free to re-add and mention the talk page discussion. -Harmil 17:22, 13 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: 64.231.236.43 keeps changing the definition for lolicon to one taken from the lolicon page:
*Lolicon, usually involves female characters between the ages of 8 and 13 (sometimes, between 3, 4 and 17, 18 in Japanese rorikon.)
The original one is:
*Lolicon, includes girls who are underage. In Japan this usually means fifteen or younger. In some cases the ambiguity of age may allow a character to fit the age of consent, usually sixteen in Japan. Some depictions are of more obviously younger children, and would therefore count as child pornography.
The former definition, from the lolicon page, is horribly awkwardly written, and focuses on a series of seemingly arbitary numbers. None of these numbers appear on the Japanese lolicon page, and that page doesn't seem to support this definition at all. The old definition seems far more encyclopedic and informative to me, and therefore I've been reverting to it.
64.231.236.43, if you want to change the definition, please outline some of the ways the new one is better. Or preferrably, re-write it to be less awkward.
--130.232.31.109 17:43, 19 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lolicon definition