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Talk:List of garden plants in North America

message: This list was seeded (ha ha) from The American Horticultural Society A-Z Encyclopedia of Garden Plants. Stan 02:53, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin 

message: Huge page - is it time to split it up by individual letters, or at least into four pages A-C, D-K, L-Q, R-Z? - MPF 14:55, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page size 

message: I put Acca back, because even if it's only a synonym, it needs to be in the list at its usual alphabetic position, so that someone who doesn't know it's a synonym can find it. Especially given the brokenness of WP search machinery, indexes like this are often the only reliable way to find something by name. Stan 00:49, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: We've done something similar and fairly extensive at List of dog breeds because you don't know what people will be looking for.  Elf | Talk 01:21, 15 Apr 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  Acca 

message: An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Index of flowers with entries in the Wikipedia. Please participate in the redirect discussion if you wish to do so.  Regards, SONIC678 17:51, 14 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Index of flowers with entries in the Wikipedia" listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

message: While this list comes from an authoritative source on the subject of gardening, it's just a single source, and I suspect its authors would admit to some subjectivity (and print page limits!) in the choice of what to include.  When created, there were a lot of red links needing articles, but that's mostly filled in now.  Googling shows a number of random gardening-related websites suggesting this list as a starting point for finding out more about specific types, but I didn't try to determine if they were popular, new, old, etc.  That purpose could be equally well served by redirecting to :Category:garden plants (this list is so old, it predates the category system), and that way we don't break incoming links. Stan (talk) 01:58, 13 May 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Delete or redirect to the category. I agree with deletion. I cannot see how it's possible to create a sensible neutral-point-of-view article listing garden plants in an international encyclopedia. You would have to merge lists from multiple national sources, with all the problems over synonyms, etc. There are other issues, too. Does "plants" here mean "species"? What about the innumerable cultivars of many popular garden plants – there are articles for cultivars in some genera (e.g. orchids, bromeliads, elms). Peter coxhead (talk) 08:42, 14 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pondering deletion
Talk:Charmeleon

message: It says that the horn in the back of its head is really a penis... Um, is this true? I'm suspecting it's vandalism, and if it's not, how about a source to verify it? If you can't put an outside source, at least state the episode or place where this was found. Abby724 20:14, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since it got removed, I suspect it was just some random bullshit. TheBlazikenMaster 02:02, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Concern for the "characteristics" section...

message: This seemed really well-written. Matt Yeager ♫ (Talk?) 00:01, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's why it's listed as "Good Article". TheBlazikenMaster 00:02, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: An article being well-written isn't a reason to not nominate an article for GA status first before instantly tagging it, (nominating first is mandatory) and definently doesn't say anything about every other criteria in WP:WIAGA. I've removed the GA tag. Homestarmy 03:28, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, everyone can do mistakes. I know it was just a simple mistake nominating it. But that's ok, not every article has to be perfect. If every article was perfect, there would nothing on Wikipedia to do other than vandalism reverting. I'm not saying it's a good thing that it isn't a good article. I'm just saying that not everything can be perfect, and everyone can falsely tag articles. TheBlazikenMaster 20:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: An article doesn't have to be perfect to be a GA, but it at least can't just bypass the whole system and not even have an adequate review to boot, part of the review is often how a reviewer can suggest improvements to be made in an article, and "this seemed really well-written" doesn't help much. Being well-written isn't the only GA criteria anyway.... Homestarmy 02:25, 15 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA
Talk:Vicksburg, Mississippi

message: Replying to your tag, yes I think the present History section could be lifted out and made into a strong page on its own, if you added some more detail about U.S. Grant's Vicksburg campaign  -  the biggest thing that most people think of in connection with the city. An abbreviated version of that page could then form the History section of the current article. Valetude (talk) 22:39, 3 August 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: what's the status of this? A. C. Santacruz  ⁂  Talk 14:16, 14 September 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: No status from my end, as I've not committed to the re-editing. I think it needs an editor who knows more about Vicksburg, to confirm the accuracy of the text as a whole (not just Civil War) and judge the relative emphasis of the points. Valetude (talk) 11:25, 4 October 2021 (UTC)

text: I have made a new page to fulfill your suggestion, not entirely sure how to proceed https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=History_of_Vicksburg%2C_Mississippi&redirect=no Saussure4661 (talk) 21:13, 24 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Turn by turn descriptions of routes of the highways and the existence of interchanges is not geography. Recommend deleting these and adding more about the rivers and other geographic features Jackieabroad (talk) 07:27, 14 December 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Geography
Talk:China–United States relations

message: I propose deleting the extensive further reading section. It unnecessarily lengthens the article and adds little. We have hundreds of references in the article - my view is, if it's an important enough source, we should cite it in the body of the article. Furthermore, for a topic this extensive, it is difficult to curate an authoritative "further reading list" given the multiplicity of views and constant new publications. 
Are there other views on this matter? JArthur1984 (talk) 18:31, 3 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Consensus for Deleting "Further Reading" section in light of substantial references cited in article body?
Talk:Technological singularity

message: Im trying to link the hindi translation of this same topic, but seems like someone's locked the page, what's the problem? विदुर (talk) 03:16, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: We use Wikidata for that now. See Help:Interlanguage_links#Links_in_the_sidebar - MrOllie (talk) 03:29, 16 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding the hindi translation 

message: In the section about Hard vs. soft takeoff, there doesnt seem to be any material in support of the hard takeoff position. If it is actually held by people, it should probably be included and their reasons why.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.84.171.68 (talk) 15:59, 5 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hard vs. soft takeoff 

message: In You Are Not A Gadget, Lanier says,
"The Singularity is an apocalyptic idea originally proposed by John von Neumann, one of the inventors of digital computation, and elucidated by figures such as Vernor Vinge and Ray Kurzweil. There are many versions of the fantasy of the Singularity.... The Singularity, however, would involve people dying in the flesh and being uploaded into a computer and remaining conscious, or people simply being annihilated in an imperceptible instant before a new super-consciousness takes over the Earth. The Rapture and the Singularity share one thing in common: they can never be verified by the living."
Lanier seems to be arguing against the possibility of the Singularity or "digital ascension" (a term that does not appear in the text). But the article says,
"Beyond merely extending the operational life of the physical body, Jaron Lanier argues for a form of immortality called "Digital Ascension" that involves "people dying in the flesh and being uploaded into a computer and remaining conscious."
This article seems to misconstrue Lanier's ideas. 2603:6011:C002:A4A1:F597:EC04:A5EB:DC2F (talk) 02:26, 17 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Problem with Lanier
Talk:Clermont-Ferrand

message: What is missing from the recently created city timeline article? Please add relevant content! Contributions welcome. Thank you. -- M2545 (talk) 19:54, 6 December 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Timeline of Clermont-Ferrand]] 

message: In this article the pronunciation is given as ​[klɛʁmɔ̃ fɛʁɑ̃], but French Wikipedia gives /klɛʁ.mɔ̃ fe.ʁɑ̃/. The phonetic/phonemic distinction ("[...]" v. "/.../" and syllable separations (".")) are relatively unimportant, but the second <e> is given as close (e) in French and open (ɛ) in English; the French sound sample backs up the former. Should this not be changed here? PJTraill (talk) 10:41, 15 September 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation conflicts with French article
Talk:Council of Relief Agencies Licensed to Operate in Germany

message: Was this just operational in the US Zone? Secretlondon 10:58, Oct 5, 2003 (UTC)
::My quick answer without looking it up would be that I guess both yes and no. It depends on the date. Originally the 4 occupation zones in Germany were run as little colonial empires my military governors, and were almost hermetically sealed off from each other, a factor that contributed to the disastrous economic situation. 
::However I would guess that later when The U.S. and UK zones were merged into "Bizonia" that CRALOG could operate also in the former UK zone, and when the French occupation zone also merged with them it presumably could operate there as well.
::Although I could be wrong, since CARE was able to make separate deals with each governor in order to be allowed to distribute relief, see CARE_Package#Distribution.
::But I think I'm right, since the prohibition on sending food aid from Britain to Germany was rescinded primarily thanks to the British humanitarian and publisher Victor Gollancz, who ran the campaign "Save Europe Now" and wrote several books on the plight of the Germans. You can read an example of one of his situation reports here: "Germany Revisited" from 1947.
::To sum up, after I started thinking about it I come to the conclusion that it is probably a complex question which requires some digging to answer fully, but I don't have the time just now unfortunately.--Stor stark7 Speak 09:28, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I did a quick search, and found the dates, it pretty much mirrors the Care packages, first the contract with the American zone in January 29, 1946 with meant that relief was permitted to be sent there, then the British and French also agreed in July 12 & 30, 1946..--Stor stark7 Speak 10:20, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Xerces blue

message: I tried to upload an image for Xerces Blue using the "Upload file" link but got an error "Sorry, uploads have been disabled on this server." Any idea why I get this error. How do I upload images ? Jay 12:31, 5 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Image upload problems

message: The French-language article on Xerxes I doesn't support the assertion that "Xerces" is a French spelling of Xerxes.
John W 15:01, 24 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  spelling of Xerces 

message: I recall reading that the Xerces blue may have gone extinct due to the replacement of a symbiotic ant species with non-native ants. This is at least plausible due to the known ant associations with many Lycaenid species. Can someone find an RS for this? 2601:644:0:DBD0:D1D9:B491:3D68:7B1F (talk) 21:26, 16 July 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ant symbiosis
Talk:Ontario Highway 401

message: Earlier this evening, his title was changed in one place from "Premier of Ontario" to "Prime Minister of Ontario", while a second mention of him remained unchanged as to his title. I've reverted again for reasons of consistency. To that end:
#The article on John Robarts calls him the Premier.
#The article on Premier of Ontario acknowledges the change but sticks to "Premier" consistently otherwise.
#Footnote 95 in this article contains a quotation from The Globe and Mail from January 9, 1965: "Premier John Robarts is expected to announce Monday at the 150th birthday dinner for Sir John A. Macdonald that Highway 401 will be renamed the Macdonald–Cartier Freeway. The naming will be in honour of Canada's first prime minister and George-Étienne Cartier, the Quebec leader in confederation."
#The original source for the change in title, says "John Robarts, the premier of Ontario" and only mentions the other title in a parenthetical aside.
To keep things consistent within this article and consistent with the other articles, I've reverted to the status quo ante. Imzadi 1979 →  01:44, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Just to add in, contemporary sources may refer to Robarts as the "Prime Minister of Ontario", but since the 1970s the head of provincial government has been consistently the "Premier of Ontario" - Floydian τ ¢ 13:21, 17 April 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Robarts' title 

message: Tilbury Highway 401 has been completed in 2022-2023 since I found on Google Street view 1.1 km west of Merlin Road to Essex Road 42 David Vo (YouTube) (talk) 20:08, 29 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tilbury has widen already to six lanes 

message: .There is a reference that "In spite of this congestion, it is the primary commuting route in Toronto, and over 50 percent of vehicles bound for downtown Toronto use the highway." with this reference:
Is it appropriate to use present tense with a statistic from a study done in 1983 (unless I'm misunderstanding)? I would suggest that this either be removed as a statement supporting the fact that the 401 is (present tense) the primary community route in Toronto? I don't really have a problem with that factual statement, but the statistic supporting it is outdated and I would suggest it be removed. Even staying "as of 1983, more than 50%..." is relatively meaningless unless someone thinks it fit somewhere in a "history" section.
I'm not going to delete this myself quite yet as I clean up this part of the article, but I'm raising the subject for discussion. TheHYPO (talk) TheHYPO (talk) 23:41, 3 June 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Outdated data?
Talk:Flight surgeon

message: I would suggest that the sentence "The term “flight surgeon” originated in the early months of 1918 when the U.S. Air Medical Service of the U.S. Army collaborated with two civilian aviation organizations — the Aero Club of America and the Aerial League of America — to manage problems of medical screening and standards for U.S. military aviators.[2][3] " be reviewed and modified.  As far as I am aware, the Aerial League of America did not exist in the "early months of 1918", so it could not have been involved in this process.  I think it was formed in late 1919.  However, I do not have any good references at hand for this at the present.     — Preceding unsigned comment added by Medevac6 (talk • contribs) 09:14, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Space travel

message: Space travel redirect to Space exploration is wrong. Space travel would logically include hypthetical/fictional (Science fiction) space travel, while many aspects of Space exploration do not involve human space travel, but rather robot probes (or, arguably, ground-based facilities). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.165.208.90 (talk) 
:I agree: Not all space travel is exploratory; as of 2007, a significant amount of space travel (to the ISS) has been logistical, and the already existing field of space tourism seems set to grow (some space tourism may be personal space exploration, or part space exploration/part tourism, but that's it). However, I also wonder: Does space travel connote manned spaceflight? Should it redirect to human spaceflight instead of spaceflight? 86.56.48.12 02:50, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I agree with this anon IP view --  this page should (for now) redirect to human spaceflight instead of spaceflight. (sdsds - talk) 19:54, 14 October 2007 (UTC)
Talk:List of ministers

message: Is there any point to this page? If it is grown to make it comprehensive, it'd be very big. Perhaps it would be better just to list these people in the various history pages for their countries (or the government page for current ministers) -- Cabalamat 02:43, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a ridiculous list.  See Talk:Minister.  Lir didn't want me to delete it, so I moved it to its own page.  I don't know why DOCU moved it back. -- Pde 07:02, 9 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Talk:Permaculture

message: The link section has been shortened with reference to MoS https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style
The current link list still contains the UK Permaculture Association, which kind of makes no sens on a list of international projects. 
The Permaculture Education Institute is a for profit institute and should be removed.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Chrisevans57 (talk • contribs) 10:42, 5 October 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. Chiswick Chap (talk) 13:23, 27 October 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links
Talk:List of Newfoundland Prime Ministers

message: I tried so hard to get the formatting right. If you can help me with it I would be very thankful. I know all the facts are right. I have studied Newfoundland history for must of my academic life.
But then why didn't you name that article "List of Prime Ministers of Newfoundland"? Without context noone will know that it is aboiut Newfoundland, and not about Togo. andy
I've moved this to List of Newfoundland Prime Ministers - deleting the premiers, since they already have their own page at List of Newfoundland and Labrador Premiers - and I'll be putting the meaningless redirect on Wikipedia:Votes for Deletion. I've also formatted the list. Now, hopefully, our original contributor will return to explain to us the significance of "COL," "Anti," "PP," and "UNP," and whether there were any prime ministers or premiers between 1934 and 1949. - Montréalais 16:54, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)
Talk:Stefan Czarniecki

message: Czarniecki had a savage hatred against Ukrainians. He is known for razing the village of Subotiv, desecrating the graves of Bohdan Khmelnytskyi and Tymish Khmelnytskyi by digging them out and shoot their remnants out of field guns. He is definitely worst than Stepan Bandera. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 02:32, 13 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Czarniecki is racist 

message: There is no Polish language listed under “Languages” in the English Wikipedia. Must be added.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 49.192.120.166 (talk) 01:57, 22 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Polish version
Talk:John L. McClellan

message: :McClellan was best-known for investigating numerous cases of government corruption including numerous defense contractors and Texas financier Billie Sol Estes.
or
:McClellan was a participant of the famous Army-McCarthy Hearings and renowned for leading a Democratic walkout of that subcommittee in protest of Senator Joseph McCarthy's conduct in those hearings.
or something else. Please see the intro to J. William Fulbright for an example.
Obviously, what you say here may reflect your POV, but that is ok; offer the information. If someone finds it too egregious or knows better, it will be modified or an alternative POV will be added. I know NPOV is something we all strive toward, but a certain amount of POV is inevitable, and articles with none at all have no soul. -- Viajero 09:24, 6 Oct 2003 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I've removed the following text from this article:
However, in 1986 the local paper ran a series of articles suggesting that she was killed as she was obstructing the attempt by another partner in McClellan's law firm to subvert the will of one of her clients. It is unclear whether McClellan would have been aware of this matter although, since it involved matters of legal ethics and a $15m will it is probable that he was at least aware of the dispute. If so he was complicit in hiding this matter until his death.
The sloppiness of this passage is remarkable. "The local paper"--WHAT local paper? "...suggesting that she was killed..."--WHO? The woman (finally) identified in the link as Maud Crawford was an attorney in Senator McClellan's law firm, but nowhere in the link does it suggest that McClellan was involved in Crawford's disappearance, or that he was suspected in any way. The inclusion of this material in an article on the Senator cannot possibly be justified. Rontrigger (talk) 20:08, 3 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unsupported accusation
Talk:Gothenburg

message: Saint-Barthélemy, in the Carribbean, has a historical connection with Gothenburg. It was founded as  a French colony in 1659; however, the poor soil and the dry climate of the island prevented its economical development, and its inhabitants mostly lived from buccaneering.
In 1785, King Louis XVI swapped the island for trade rights in Gothenburg with King of Sweden Gustav III.
On 16 March 1878, the Swedes sold back the island to France.
What were these ‘trade rights’ in Gothenburg France was given? How long did they last? More info needed. 
Also, the connection of Gothenburg with this island resulted in Sweden having a colony in the New World for over a century. I don’t think this is widely known. 2601:647:667F:8610:110E:FF3B:B2EE:5B03 (talk) 02:39, 12 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: St.Barthelemy

message: Sports.  Lucas Raymond. 2600:6C48:507F:807D:F0D4:94:FD5E:492A (talk) 14:59, 18 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable people.
Talk:Obscene phone call

message: The advent of caller ID has greatly reduced the number of obscene phone calls.
Has it? Sources, stats? I guess it seems reasonable, but so do a number of things. --Charles A. L. 20:38, Dec 16, 2003 (UTC)
:I've removed that. I'm going to try and rewrite this in a more coherent manner. 68.39.174.238 13:58, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This article should mention that making obscene phone calls is a Class 1 Misdemeanor in various states, including Arizona and Virginia.  I researched this today, because of personal reasons.  (Someone wouldn't let me sleep!  Argh!)  A Class 1 Misdemeanor is the most severe misdemeanor, and its punishment can include a hefty fine and six months in prison.  --Rika95 22:42, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Class 1 Misdemeanor 

message: I have a problem with the opening sentence: "An obscene phone call is an unsolicited telephone call where a person derives sexual pleasure by using sexual or foul language to an unknown person." It implies that obscene phone calls are always for sexual pleasure, what about people who are simply using hateful or foul language or doing other 'obscene' things that are no way sexually related? For example, a call made by a swearing drunk to someone for a legitimate purpose would be considered a obscene call (as they had a purpose to call rather than to simply annoy it's hard to consider it a prank call). --118.210.204.143 (talk) 12:33, 31 October 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Tweaked it. An obscene phone call is not always telephone scatologia, which is about making the phone call for sexual pleasure, but the term obscene phone call is at times used to refer to telephone scatologia. Flyer22 Frozen (talk) 02:19, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sexual?