Wikipedia talk:AutoWikiBrowser/Archive 7

message: Hi, I am meta:user:Walter from meta:Wikizine. Possibly this AutoWikiBrowser can be a subject for a item. I can not play around with this software because I do not have windows (and also no admin status on EN). 
What I like to know is of this AutoWikiBrowser is software that only works for the English Wikipedia or  does it also work for other languages / projects, non-wikimedia MediaWikis? --Walter 10:32, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It has basic support for some other languages, and for the wiktionary, wikisource and commons, but it is primarily designed for en.wikipedia. Martin 12:53, 16 June 2006 (UTC)

text: You don't need to be an admin to be able to use the software. You have to register by placing your name on the Requests for registration page. Harryboyles 05:01, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questions about WikiBrowser for Wikizine 

message: Just wanted to let you know that AWB won't make a list for Special:Longpages or Special:Shortpages.  If you enter "Longpages" (with special selected) or "Shortpages" and click "List" nothing is listed, and if you type "Long pages" or "Short pages" it says "(404) not found". —Mets501 (talk) 23:25, 19 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I also cannot get it to load "Special:Watchlist" which is pretty much the only thing I want to look at right now... — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib Reverts 00:27, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Specialpages 

message: Is it possible to have AWB to load settings on start up. As it would be useful as im sure many people have certain things set, and if they didnt have to manually set these, or load settings manually, it would be useful. Even if it was a messagebox that asked on start up - 'Do you want to load your custom settings' with a yes and no box. Cheers Reedy Boy 08:58, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I suppose the easiest thing to do would be to see if there is a default settings file (e.g. default.xml) in the same folder as the executable, and load it if it exists. Martin 10:06, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If you could, it'd be appreciated. Will stick it on SF for some more activity. Reedy Boy 10:57, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ok, I'll probably change it soon, and release a new version early next week. Martin 11:22, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nice one. Thanks Reedy Boy 12:24, 1 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Noticed this has been listed for 3.0.0.7. Thanks! Reedy Boy 11:06, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AWB automatically load settings on start up 

message: I have "skip articles with no changes" selected.  When I load a fully-protected page, such as Mao: The Unknown Story or J. Phillippe Rushton, AWB "freezes," with "Loading article..." at the bottom.  --zenohockey 03:44, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I can't reproduce a problem, this kind of thing can happen when the servers are stalled. Martin 10:47, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is interesting, I have the same problem with a version that Jude adapted for use on Wikia.  It doesn't matter whether "skip" is selected, or if the page is protected.  Of course, it works just fine for Jude ;) -- sannse (talk) 16:41, 2 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Apparent bug 

message: Would it be possible when you search catagories with sub categories, that AWB will load lists from them aswell?
As it would be useful when doing large amounts of small categories with only a few articles in.
Would it possible to implement that into AWB? Or is there some way round it?
Thanks
Reedy Boy 12:43, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I second that question, was about to ask it too :))) -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 00:09, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Good To hear. I can't see it being any/much different to using the tecniques it uses to load links from the category pages, except it needs to go a level deeper. Reedy Boy 08:15, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Noticed this has been listed for 3.0.0.7. Thanks! Reedy Boy 11:06, 5 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sub Categories 

message: Has it been moved or renamed? Cause it aint there now...
Reedy Boy 19:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its been moved to be with the other "skip" options, in the "set options" panel. Martin 19:25, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Errm... wheres the set options panel? Reedy Boy 20:10, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its the main panel with the "general fixes" etc. options on it. Martin 20:41, 6 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah, Skip articles at the bottom. I gets ya! Thanks for all your work :D Reedy Boy 08:02, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Option to skip if no changes found missing in 3.0.0.7 

message: Is this code married to Windows/C#, or is there hope of porting it to Unix/X?  Or is there something else already for that?--J Clear 00:15, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Its pretty much married to windows via the heavy reliance on the IE webbrowser control. Martin 13:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Porting? 

message: Is there any way to get this software to operate with different Mediawiki projects? Ben Tibbetts 01:21, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It already has basic functionality for wiktionary, wikisource, commons and other language wikis. Martin 13:53, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Right, but I created my own wiki (see here) and would like to link to it as a resource for its members, as well as utilize it for my own purposes. It really is a fantastic program! Ben Tibbetts 18:51, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe, if you want to do that, you need to take the source and recompile it for your usage. OR find someone to do it... Reedy Boy 09:56, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other Wikis 

message: Hi,
After editing around 300-400 articles to change a list into a category, AWB's memory usage was near 180Mb. Is this normal?
Also, any ideas why sometimes, after it has edited a page, it sticks on the loaded updated version, and ignore or stop/start has to be pressed?
Reedy Boy 13:10, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The memory usage is because the the browser control doesnt seem to like releasing its memory, probably because it caches the pages it has viewed, I guess it's not really meant for loading hundreds of pages in a row. The other problem is probably a result of some large internal changes I have made recently, did it do that for you before the latest version? Martin 13:35, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I never actually looked.... Maybe worth it Reedy Boy 20:35, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Is that with the newest version? Martin 23:00, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Every version ever =D.  I don't mind, honestly.  It provides a good break. --mboverload@ 23:46, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sticking & Memory Usage 

message: AWB is moving "Bahasa Indonesia" further down the interwiki list (see ), because its code is "id". I'm getting tired of reverting everybody, so could you please fix this. --Maitch 09:40, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It uses the order described on m:Interwiki sorting order, if this is wrong then it should be changed there as well, as the pywiki bots use this order. Martin 11:01, 9 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Initially I had AWB sort alphabetically, but (contrary to the poll) it was not popular, so now it does it the same way as other bots, and virtually all articles are sorted in the way described on m:Interwiki sorting order, so I think we should stick to that. Martin 11:48, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Interwiki sorting

message: The new subcategories feature is great.  I wish I had thought to ask about that myself, but I will definitely take advantage now.  I was hoping that I could ask for a similar feature for the "Links on Page" command.  This would be useful for creating a list of articles from a higher order list.  It seems like I am always creating a list to then create another list with.  Example: I could create a list of all Indianapolis 500 races, and then use that list to grab the names of all the drivers off of each of the subordinate pages. --Brian G 12:25, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, I'll expand the existing options to do this in next release. thanks Martin 13:10, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Wow, that was fast.  I can't believe that you already implemented that.  Thank you so much for taking my suggestion and making it happen.  I have already used the new functionality and it works GREAT!!!  You saved me significant time and made my tasks much easier. --Brian G 01:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Links on Page 

message: Hi, would it be possible for someone who has a full copy of the source for AWB, zip it up and put it somewhere for me?
As im starting to design my HCI for my computing project, and i wanted to have a look how some of the features are setup (such as the full screen maximising)
Cheers
Reedy Boy 13:47, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I would appreciate it if the sources were not posted, as it would encourage do-it-yourself AWB projects, which will only cause trouble. As for simple things ke full screen maximising, those properties are inherited from the windows form, and set at design time, so they the AWB source wouldnt be much help anyway. Martin 14:20, 9 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Zipped Source 

message: I have not used AWB since Feb of this year and wanted to upgrade so I coudl start using it again.  Only when I get the packages off sourceforge there is not exe only a dll and no instructions.  Did I miss something? Dalf | Talk 06:26, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There is definately an executable in there, in fact there are 2, one for AWB and one for IRCMonitor, if you can't see them then maybe your zip program isnt working. Martin 08:17, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Strange, I will download them again tonight and try with a diffrent zip application. Dalf | Talk 18:17, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Help installing 

message: AWB does not seem to recognize Portal pages when making lists from a category or what-links-here. Making a list from :Category:Celebrity birthdays gives no results. Making a list from what links to Portal:Music/DateOfBirth/Template gives only four results, and ignores the Portal pages. Λυδαcιτγ 14:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The next version has different internal workings, and will pick up port pages. Martin 18:17, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portal bug 

message: I'm going to be on vacation, could someone handle this for me? (Martin should also see it just in case)User_talk:Mboverload#this_edit --mboverload@ 17:11, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: He's right, the stub tag should be at the end, unfortunately that stub tag wasn't recognised as it is formatted differently to every other tub ever made. Martin 18:09, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's a redirect to a properly-named stub template: slap his wrist and fix the stupid thing  (I'm working on it, but I'm having that problem where AWB strips the comments off of Categories again—I thought we fixed that?). —Phil | Talk 07:38, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, it's still borked. --mboverload@ 21:37, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What is this user talking about 

message: Is there any way to add a category using AWB to an article about a person so that the category is piped with the person's last name then first name?  For example, to add :Category:English-language film directors to David Lean it would need Lean, David.  I am adding categories to many hundreds of articles about people, so this would save me a huge amount of time! -- Samuel Wantman 08:56, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I already have code to do something very similar, so I'll see how it can be adapted. Martin 09:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

text: In the "Add new category" option, I'll make it so if you enter "English-language film directors|%%key%%" it will add the category "Lean, David". Martin 10:05, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you do that for Replace Category too ?? Thanks 86.204.31.160 14:33, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: When you replace a category it uses whatever key was already there. I might expand it so there is an option to add the key to all categories that don't have a key though. Martin 14:46, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think so… like the "general fixes" 86.204.31.160 15:49, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Thank you so much!  Let me know when it is ready. -- Samuel Wantman 06:46, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's in the newest version now! Martin 08:12, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category pipe trick 

message: I cannot get AWB to load up my watchlist. I tried 'Special Page:' 'Watchlist' and 'Links on page:' 'Special:Watchlist' (which gives me an error 'StartIndex cannot be less than zero. Parameter name: startIndex'.) I have my Watchlist set to 'expanded style' for VP. What I'd really like tho is to be able to load the page 'Watchlist/edit' which would probably be easier on both AWB for parsing and the WP servers. Am I doing something wrong? I made sure to update to the latest (3.0.0.9). — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib Reverts 11:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Not all the special pages work, however I already have code for use with another program to load up a watchlist, so I can implement that very easily. Martin 11:35, 13 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Your request was just in time to make the newest release. thanks. Martin 12:04, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, I "snuck a peek" and saw you have it in the 3.0.1.0 release notes. ;) Does it pull up the 'edit' page like I mentioned to ensure it gets them all and not just the last n edits?  — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib Reverts 12:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Sure does, you can download it now. Martin 14:46, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Watchlist 

message: I got this error while attempting to get a "what transcludes here" of a template. Any idea of what might cause it? Thank you very much. -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 21:10, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok, thanks for letting me know, could you let me know what template it was, I know what the error is for, but would like to reproduce it exactly. thanks Martin 21:13, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  As the screenshot suggests, it occured for Template:WPMILHIST. It also occurs for Template:WikiProjectBattles too. Thanks, Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 21:16, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Oh yeah, silly me. Just when I think all bugs are dead... oh well, will be fixed in next release. thanks Martin 21:22, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  No problem and thanks again for that w00t tool! -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 21:35, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weird error 

message: OK, so I am populating my S&R regexs by hand, and whenever I alt-tab to look something up, I cannot alt-tab back. I get the main AWB screen, where I have to click the 'Normal' button 2x to get back to the dialog with the spreadsheet style. Thanx for the Watchlist feature - worked perfectly! — RevRagnarok Talk Contrib Reverts 01:57, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, I'll change this behaviour. thanks Martin 08:12, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  AWB no likey Alt-Tab 

message: could we make localized versions of AWB ? I can translate the software in french !? 86.213.231.5 08:39, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This is something that I do plan to do at some point, probably when it is feature complete and bug free. Martin 12:32, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Localized version 

message: Hello,
I'm running AWB on the french wikipedia for some basic text replacements and I don't know how to make the bot not to replace anything inside the specific caracters [ and ]. Is AWB able to skip this changes by modifying parameters ? Can I use a script to do that ? Will a future release bring that ?
I wish you can understand my english :-/
Thanks a lot for your response !
Liquid_2003 - Talk 20:48, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Salut LIQUID :D C'est kyle, je savais pas que t'utilisait aussi AWB ;o). Les IP en rouge, c'est moi :D Kyle_the_hacker aka 86.204.30.37 21:08, 14 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Can we have that for Advanced Find & Replace too ??? thx Kyle_the_hacker aka 86.213.167.114 21:12, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: "inside " can already be specified on Replace Special (example). Thinking further, I can imagine to invert that, which would give a "not inside " rule. This could then be extended to "inside ..", "inside [..]" and their negations. So I might do that on the MWB code line (takes some time, no promises), and – if it works – will update that on AWB (unless Martin has a better idea). --Ligulem 23:26, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: I think AWB would be much more popular if it could be incorporated into Firefox as a plug-in. Comments?--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 00:39, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure that I really see the point. If you run it within Firefox, you would have to dedicate a whole window to it. What's wrong with just using the AWB standard program.Alphachimp talk 05:27, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

text: I don't see the point, either. Could you please explain? --mboverload@ 05:30, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Because whatver AWB does, I am pretty happy with editing Wiki in my Mozilla and most certainly I don't want to use anything that does not have tabbed browsking. So as long as AWB is a stand alone browser, it will be used by a tiny minority, but if you transform it into a firefox plug in, then its usability will skyrocket.--Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus Talk 20:09, 15 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Well, personally I disagree. What is nice is precisely to have AWB in IE while everything else is in Firefox. It also allows two different accounts without too much trouble (e.g. your normal user account and your bot). -- Grafikm (AutoGRAF) 20:12, 15 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Um...AWB doesn't use tabs or have a use for them. How would the usability "skyrocket"? How would it change anything than making a bloated Firefox install even more bloated? --mboverload@ 00:20, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, wouldn't you have to rewrite the bot code? Almost everyone has internet explorer and many of us use firefox as our browser. The idea just doesnt make sense. Alphachimp talk 00:41, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, the code would have to be rewritten from scratch to turn it into XUL to be used in Firefox.  Piotr seems to be confused about what he is suggesting here. --mboverload@ 00:47, 16 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incorporate into Firefox