Talk:Full breakfast

message: I can't understand why this keeps being removed from here, even though there are ample sources online clearly showing it to be included as part of a Full (English, at least) breakfast, never mind the fact that the Wikipedia page for bubble and squeak itself clearly depicts and describing it as accompanying a Full breakfast --Theudariks (talk) 04:49, 21 June 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bubble and squeak 

message: "Traditional" is not a meaningful term. The article says it became widely popular only after WWII, and uses scare quotes around the term precisely because of this. The article already uses the term "substantial" in the lead sentence, which obviously does not mean "tasty" nor "made of substances", but rather "ample and nourishing... large and heavy". That is in fact the very first definition (A.I.1) in the OED. --Macrakis (talk) 21:30, 13 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Those are great points for my side, not yours. Eighty years easily establishes a tradition, and the definition you're citing exactly makes my point about this being a relative assessment that's not appropriate for a shortdesc addressed to a global audience that eats breakfasts of all sizes. Thanks. RiverCityRelay (talk) 21:07, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: The word "substantial" is what's used in the lead sentence in the article, so it should be good enough for the SD. "Traditional" is only mentioned four paragraphs down in the article, and with scare quotes, for good reason. In any case, I'm not sure how "substantial" is relative and "traditional" is not. I did read your edit summaries, and the condescending "please, it helps" is offensive. --Macrakis (talk) 23:25, 23 February 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Agree with Macrakis. "Substantial" clearly refers to the size of the meal and is more suitable than "traditional" in the short description. Barry Wom (talk) 13:18, 24 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Short description

message: There is a move discussion in progress on Talk:Bacon and eggs (disambiguation) which affects this page. Please participate on that page and not in this talk page section. Thank you.  —RMCD bot 16:00, 17 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Move discussion in progress 

message: I've trimmed this hard for bloat and original research, reorganized a bit, requests citations for some things. I removed the long uncited list of foods because those can go into prose if they have support. Valereee (talk) 20:09, 19 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  bloat 

message: This article lacks a section about the health issues of full breakfast. Is it a healthy or hazardous meal? AnnaBruta (talk) 13:17, 10 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Some live to tell the tale but the list of victims is long and varied, as you might expect from a meal high in fats, calories, sodium and processed meats. Ericoides (talk) 05:46, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Health issues of full breakfast 

message: I have revived the text on regional variations which was trimmed in February/March 2023, seemingly without discussion and for unstated reasons (apologies if I have missed something). The reduced text was also misleading and incorrect (e.g. reducing much of the Ireland text to "Breakfast rolls" and  introducing an Ulster subsection separate to Ireland).
In my opinion, the regional variations section needs additions rather than "trimming", the North American section should be expanded and I'm sure that further subsections for a number of commonwealth nations apposite. Finally, I am unsure how to deal with England in this section, I would think that variations within the English regions would be a better approach (I know that West Midlands breakfasts are considered their own thing) but this is not my area so I'll leave it to contributors with a better understanding of the variations within England. Cymrogogoch (talk) 11:40, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: The point of trimming was to reduce the repetition, i.e. to initially list the common elements and only point out the differences from these in the regional sections. We don't need to list eggs, bacon, sausage and toast, for instance, in every regional variation. Barry Wom (talk) 12:44, 6 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Regional variations