Talk:World Rugby Rankings

message: For the first match at the 2015 World Cup, England played Fiji at Twickenham. However, the nature of the draw meant that they were technically the away team and had to use away team dressing room.  Does anyone know if the ranking concidered this game to be a home game for England or neutral (or even a home match for Fiji...which would surely be crazy!)
Graemec2 (talk) 14:27, 8 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Home Matches at the World Cup 

message: When anybody is updating the rankings can they please ensure they update the entire table not just the top 10 or such. 
Also the 'Historical Ranking' should be left as New Zealand (unless there is a change in number one), it was recently changed to Wales.
F1lover22 (talk) 17:13, 22 March 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Incomplete Updating  

message: To Wiki Admins,
Please investigate the disgusting diatribe against Japanese team in the rankings table.
--85.28.114.158 16:45, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bias against Japanese 

message: I removed the following from the main article, as I am not convinced it really belongs:
*The lead of the article states "The IRB World Rankings is a ranking system for men's national teams in rugby union". This info relates to women's rugby
*The rankings aren't even IRB endorsed, are not official, and thus don't belong under "IRB world rankings"
*The european rankings again aren't IRB, and aren't world rankings.
Nouse4aname (talk) 15:45, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  removed section 

message: Wikipedia:WikiProject_Rugby_union#Why_doesn.27t_Ireland_have_a_flag.3F87.198.164.254 (talk) 11:55, 7 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Ireland

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Any objections to adding best and worst points to the table? It would be interesting, for example, to see what/when New Zealand's best points score, rather than just a list of years they've been ranked no.1. Greenman (talk) 12:40, 22 August 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Best and Worst Points 

message: The world ranking table is incorrect despite saying as of 5th November 2018. Chile is rated World #30 not England for a second timehttps://www.world.rugby/rankings/mru?lang=en Anyone able to change this- I can't work out how Josh.holmes2000 (talk) 01:15, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title: Incorrect rankings

message: Can someone update table to the current World Rugby standings 13 November 2018. ( https://www.world.rugby/rankings/mru?lang=en ). Currently there is a Semi-protection on the the page because of previous vandalism and there has been multiple movements in the rankings  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.0.116.86 (talk) 13:38, 12 November 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update Table 13 November 2018 

message: This article does not cover the Women's World Rugby Rankings. Currently World Rugby do count these. I have been trying to add them but I am having some problems. I don't know if they should be here or on a separate wiki article. The FIFA soccer World Rankings for the men and women are displayed on two separate pages and I think it might be more reasonable if we do that here, otherwise we could have two very long tables next to each other that could take away from the article, not to mention a possible future Ad nauseam debate on which ranking table (men or women)should be above the other. I cannot create a new wiki article and I would appreciate it, if it is suitable to someone interested, that they create a new article. I have created a wiki table similar to the men's rankings and that displays the women's rankings and I have changed the links so they connect to the respective women's national rugby teams rather than the men's which is what occurs on this article and I have changed the citation so that it goes directly to World Rugby's Women's World Rankings. See below
 
Women's World Rugby Rankings       	Women's World Rugby Rankings       	Women's World Rugby Rankings       	Women's World Rugby Rankings
Top 30 rankings as of 19 March 2018	Top 30 rankings as of 19 March 2018	Top 30 rankings as of 19 March 2018	Top 30 rankings as of 19 March 2018
Rank                               	Change*                            	Team                               	Points
1                                  	                                   	                                   	95.66
2                                  	                                   	                                   	91.43
3                                  	                                   	                                   	88.50
4                                  	                                   	                                   	86.31
5                                  	                                   	                                   	79.41
6                                  	                                   	                                   	78.68
7                                  	                                   	                                   	74.85
8                                  	                                   	                                   	73.19
9                                  	                                   	                                   	72.91
10                                 	                                   	                                   	72.50
11                                 	                                   	                                   	70.25
12                                 	                                   	                                   	68.72
13                                 	                                   	                                   	68.51
14                                 	                                   	                                   	64.21
15                                 	                                   	                                   	64.00
16                                 	                                   	                                   	62.99
17                                 	                                   	                                   	62.22
18                                 	                                   	                                   	59.73
19                                 	                                   	                                   	59.41
20                                 	                                   	                                   	58.47
21                                 	                                   	                                   	52.45
22                                 	                                   	                                   	52.27
23                                 	                                   	                                   	51.44
24                                 	                                   	                                   	46.71
25                                 	                                   	                                   	46.68
26                                 	                                   	                                   	46.52
27                                 	                                   	                                   	45.63
28                                 	                                   	                                   	44.95
29                                 	                                   	                                   	44.86
30                                 	                                   	                                   	44.41
*Change from the previous week     	*Change from the previous week     	*Change from the previous week     	*Change from the previous week
(Note: I've added closing brackets and blank lines to stop this table (which, incidentally, was created by some unsigned author and has nothing to do with me) eating up and reducing the visibility of the next section).Tlhslobus (talk) 17:13, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: Incidentally, although this section and its table were not created by me, I agree in principle that having the woman's table somewhere is desirable in theory and per WP:BIAS, though I don't know whether there will in practice be enough personpower available in practice to keep it up-to-date. As an interim measure, a See Also link to the World Rugby Women's table may be a good idea (assuming it's not already there,as I'm about to check now).Tlhslobus (talk) 17:38, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

text: I've now added an External Link, at least as an interim measure, per WP:BIAS, WP:WORKINPROGRESS, WP:IAR if needed, and quite possibly a few other relevant rules as well. However I don't expect to be doing much more about this myself anytime soon (per WP:NOTCOMPULSORY and WP:BNO), tho that needn't stop other editors from choosing to try to do so if they wish. Tlhslobus (talk) 17:55, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

text: On reflection I've now added a single sentence in the lead to clarify the matter for interested readers. This is not ideal as the lead is supposed to be a summary of what's in the article pet WP:LEAD. But it's probably best for our readers to have it there per WP:IAR and WP:BIAS, while awaiting more stuff being added to the body of the article (or to a new article) by others, per WP:WORKINPROGRESS, WP:NOTCOMPULSORY and WP:BNO. Of course if WP:Wikilawyers aren't happy with this, one can simply fix it by, for instance, copying the aforementioned sentence into a new section called Women's Rankings, and then shortening the sentence in the lead. On second thoughts I think I'll now do just that. Tlhslobus (talk) 19:03, 8 September 2019 (UTC)

text: Done.Tlhslobus (talk) 19:09, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Women's World Rugby Rankings 

message: There is persistent vandalism to this article and its table contents. It may be necessary to protect this article by a semi protected request  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.0.116.86 (talk) 16:20, 8 December 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Semi-protection would definitely have been a good idea yesterday, presumably due to the apparent conflict between the media announcing Ireland is in top spot and the article saying NZ is in Top spot (as it will be until sometime tomorrow when the new tables are published). And I've no objection to semi-protection now as a possibly useful precaution. However I'm not an admin so I can't do it myself, and admins may notice that the article now explains the NZ-Ireland issue, and that it's now over 18 hours since the last apparent vandalism, which may or may not be relevant to their decision. Tlhslobus (talk) 17:29, 8 September 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Persistent Vandalism  

message: Does anyone know why England's short-lived reign as number one nation during the 2019 World Cup doesn't appear in this plot? All the other leading nations during 2019 are listed in the correct order.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 185.60.80.54 (talk) 18:38, 14 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  World Rugby Ranking Leaders Plot 

message: It is not made clear in the explanations (either in this article or in the official World Rugby explanation) how a competition match is treated if it is level at Full Time, goes into Extra Time under the rules of the competition, and is thereafter won by one or the other side.
In this circumstance (which happened in the recent Final of the 2020 Autumn Nations Cup between England and France), is the match considered a draw for the purposes of determining the rankings (since this was the result at Full Time - which is when the result would normally be determined), or is it considered a victory for the side which ultimately won?
194.129.64.4 (talk) 12:07, 11 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Victories in Extra Time 

message: Is it worth including a section on how the rankings can be affected by who plays whom regularly?
:E.g. Italy plays in the Six Nations every year, yet frequently loses all five of their games. Thus their maximum ranking points are effectively capped at 10 less than the lowest number obtained by the other five nations in the tournament. As long as this continues, if Italy gains more ranking points over the Autumn, most of them will be lost during the following Spring.
:Georgia doesn't play in the Six Nations, and rarely plays any of the six nations that compete in the tournament. Thus its ranking points are effectively capped at 10 more than the highest number obtained by the other European nations that it regularly plays. As long as it continues to dominate its regular European tournament it will only be in danger of losing significant numbers of ranking points if it plays a Tier 1 nation. But such matches are rare.
:The combination of the above means that currently Georgia is more highly ranked than Italy, and is likely to remain more highly ranked. But since they rarely play against each other, or against the same opponents within a short time frame it isn't possible to know if Georgia is actually the better side.
194.129.64.4 (talk) 11:16, 16 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's a fair point and one I think should be added, however, the questions are, 1) where would you add it? and 2) would it require a new section to explain it with similarities to the The Rugby Championship teams. Particularly Argentina versus Fiji, Samoa, Tonga, the USA and Canada.37.18.134.184 (talk) 14:18, 28 September 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  New Section/text?