Talk:Women as imams

message: Should the heading for this page not be "Women Imams" instead of "Woman imam".
: Maybe.  Does anyone have a cite for what Tabari actually said?  Looking online, I see some people claiming he allowed women to lead men in prayers in general, and others claiming he only allowed this for their households. - Mustafaa 01:49, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I dunno... "Female imams" sounds somehow off to me, but I'd be fine with "women imams". - Mustafaa 03:33, 22 Mar 2005 (UTC)
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message: In the comments on this article, I see some people claiming that he only said that women could be imam for tarawih (like the Hanbalis) and one adding that, actually, Tabari doesn't say so in his surviving works; rather, Ibn Jarir quoted him as saying so in a work that does not survive, Ikhtilaf al-Fuqaha, and Ibn Arabi then quoted this work.  Ibn Arabi's support seems not to be disputed, but for Tabari I'd really like to see some citations. - Mustafaa 02:38, 23 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: What did Tabari say?

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message: Can a few lines be put on Women as theological figures which is meant to be a general overview of the subject.
Jackiespeel 10:11, 4 October 2005 (UTC)
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message: Notice this:
::In the early years of Islam, one sect of Kharijites founded by Habib ibn-Yazīd al-Harūrī held that it was permissible to entrust the imamate to a woman if she were able to carry out the required duties. The founder's wife, Ghazāla al-Harūriyya, even commanded troops, following the example of Abu Sufyan's daughter Juwayriyya at the battle of Yarmuk.
Totally irrelevant to the subject.  the imama that Habib the Khariji meant was not leading in prayer, rather it meant leading in governance, battle and law.  There is no historical evidence that states that Ghazala ever lead a prayer.  Her leading an army is irrelevant because this is another subject altogether.
Also, the above quote implies that not only Ghazala lead prayer, but also Juwayriyya lead the prayer at the battle of Yarmuk - the last is actually absurd.  --Maha Odeh 12:01, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
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message: Perhaps there should be a mention of the three women muftis appointed in Hyderabad in September 2003 , and the 450 women deputy muftis (called vaizes) appointed in Turkey  , starting in 2004/2005 .  These positions are I think usually considered superior to that of imam (though I guess they don't present the same theological issues).--Pharos (talk) 17:42, 26 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There now exists List of female Muslim scholars for these sorts of things. Imams and muftis are very different things, an imam leads congregations and such while a scholar concerns themselves with nitty-gritty theology. I am aware that the above comment is ancient but it's worth pointing out for others. FAISSALOO(talk) 21:27, 2 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Women as [[mufti]]s and deputy muftis 

message: Does anyone know where the material came from that discusses mixed gender congregations in South Africa. I can't seem to find a source to reference this with?
(Ktewhitney (talk) 19:40, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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message: The sentence stating that A unanimous consensus for the entire Ummah (Muslim community) in the east and west [is] that women can not lead the Friday prayer nor can they deliver the [sermon] seems to directly contradict the rest of the article. How unanimous can the consensus be, when there are in fact female Muslims leading Friday prayers? (Also, what's up with the words in brackets? Usually the brackets are used to indicate interpolations or emendations in quoted text, but this sentence is unsourced and not in quotation marks. What gives?) 65.213.77.129 (talk) 15:34, 28 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unanimous Consensus? 

message: I've removed the section copied below because it was unsourced for over four years. It can be put back into the article when reliable sources have been found to cite the section, as per Wikipedia's verification policy. Mattg82 (talk) 14:52, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
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