Talk:Alfredo Ottaviani

message: The link from Franjo Šeper points to an empty page.  Fixing the link to Alfredo Cardinal Ottaviani makes the naming in the succession list inconsistent.
Wouldn't a redirect link make more sense here? - ClaudeMuncey
I've removed this page's entry from Wikipedia:Requested moves due to a lack of consensus on the move. If this changes, feel free to add another request. --Lox (t,c) 19:32, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
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message: The article says "Ottaviani, while opposed to the separation of Church and State and granting equal rights to all religions, supported religious tolerance—suppressing public manifestations of non-Catholic religions when possible".  This makes no sense.  It seems to be defining religious tolerance as intolerance. Jhobson1 13:18, 11 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: In earlier days when Catholics meant "tolerance" they meant charity and love you show to something wrong or irritating. The argument goes that you only use the word "tolerate" for something you basically find in error or bad. People don't usually say "let's be tolerant to democracy" or "you should tolerate his good hygiene." So from that perspective members of other religions were to be treated with love and charity, but forbidden from public recognition as they were in error. Privately they could do whatever they wished as long as this did not break the rules of society. (Most nations still would supress religions if they do that. If a religion required members to take hashish they would likely face some suppression in the US) Just like a scientist may tolerate an individual who believes in Intelligent Design, but support the suppression of ID in public schools as being pseudoscientific error. I admit though that kind of strictness is something I'm glad I never lived under. There are times I worry that makes me a bad Catholic, but I don't think so.--T. Anthony 05:58, 15 November 2007 (UTC)
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message: "In 1959, under Ottaviani's direction, the newly appointed Pope John XXIII was presented with a list of books to be placed on the Index of Forbidden Books and he signed the decree to that effect. Sister Faustina Kowalska's diary was among the banned books, and it remained on the Index for almost 20 years."
"20 years"? That's impossible, 'cause the Index was officially abolished by pope Paul VI, methinks, in 1964.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 62.98.100.197 (talk) 05:28, 26 February 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: A Notification of 14 June 1966 from the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith announced that, while the Index maintained its moral force, in that it taught Christians to beware, as required by the natural law itself, of those writings that could endanger faith and morality, it no longer had the force of ecclesiastical positive law with the associated penalties: "Nuntiat Indicem suum vigorem moralem servare, quatenus Christifidelium conscientiam docet, ut ab illis scriptis, ipso iure naturali exigente, caveant, quae fidem ac bonos mores in discrimen adducere possint; eundem tamen non amplius vim legis ecclesiasticae habere cum adiectis censuris" (Acta Apostolicae Sedis, Vol. 58, 1966, p. 445). The text can be consulted also in Kurt Wilhelm, Wissenschaft des Judentums im deutschen Sprachbereich: ein Querschnitt, Volume 1,ISBN 978-3-16-821152-5.  Esoglou (talk) 10:35, 14 February 2013 (UTC)
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