Talk:British colonisation of South Australia

message: How about we rename this article European settlement of South Australia?--cj | talk 00:50, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: If no-one objects to this title, I shall move the article in a week's time.--cj | talk 08:26, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I wrote the article, and am fine with a name change. BTW, this article is far from done and I intend to work on it.SauliH 13:22, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  What was this article renamed from. Can you point me to the rename diff if possible. Thanks Donama (talk) 23:25, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: For completeness of an old conversation, the rename edit is this one. --Scott Davis Talk 04:46, 3 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Rename

message: A question: "...were recognised as inhabitable prior to this time..." - by whom were they recognised as such?  One assumes that the aboriginal inhabitants of the area had recognised it as habitable since they were already there =) but this statement probably needs clarification - my point is not to flame the article but to show that discussions of European "settlement" in Australia are political minefields which can easily offend indigenous people with the (often unintended) implication that native title did not exist at the time of European colonisation.  In order to minimise this risk it is necessary to be very careful in wording such articles so that it is clear that there are at least two perspectives on the "settlement" of Australia by European people: i.e. that of the "settlers" and the rather less well-represented one of the original inhabitants.  Even the word "settlement" has the potential to offend indigenous people by implying either that there was nobody there beforehand (c.f. Terra Nullius) or that the process was a peaceful one (far from the truth).  The word "invasion" is probably more accurate, but also liable to give offense to those of European descent.  "Colonisation" would be preferable IMHO... Aikidesigns (talk) 07:44, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't have much knowledge of all this so not very good at understanding the politics of it all. To me, this article is trying to be about the early "recorded history" part of South Australia, rather than trying to take a point of view on whether it was a valid "settlement" or "invasion", etc. Can you try editing out the bits that don't concern what I've identified as the topic perhaps. Donama (talk) 23:24, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Settlement, invasion, or colonisation?

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: I find title and intention of this page a little unclear. I see that it used to be called "History of South Australia from 1831 to 1842", which is perhaps a little long and/or clumsy, but at least it had the benefit of specificity. The current title sounds as if it should include all of the settlers up to the present day, or at least until most of the towns and regions were settled - including various waves of settlers from other places (not being overly familiar with the history, I can only think of Germans and Cornish) - which would make the whole thing rather too cumbersome and likely to become patchy and mostly useless. What about "British colonisation of South Australia", as per British colonisation of Tasmania? Perhaps more of a timeline-type article signposting all of the disparate articles relating to this period in SA's history and expanding a bit on History of South Australia#British preparation for establishing a colony, and/or taking it up to 1856, when (I have just learnt in the History of SA article) it became a "self-governing colony" (was this a change back after South Australia Act 1842 made it a Crown Colony, or the first time ever actually self-governing??).
Any and all ideas welcome... I would just like to see the page better defined and better used. (Not that I have time to get deeply into it just now!) Laterthanyouthink (talk) 09:51, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: p.s. Somewhat related to this, is a lot of overlap between History of Adelaide and the History of SA article sections covering the same period. Not entirely surprising, considering most of the settlement was in Adelaide, I suppose - but it would be good to get these rationalised and kept mostly in one article too... Laterthanyouthink (talk) 10:15, 5 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Naming and other issues

message: (The comment below was made by  on Talk:Colonial Land and Emigration Commission which is a redirect) copied here by me after retargeting the redirect and yesterday creating a section in the South Australia Act 1842 article. I belatedly thought that the content about the demise of the Commissioners and the creation of the new body is better placed in this article, which is a narrative linking the two Acts as well, so I've moved it from South Australia Act 1842 and added a bit more, and retargeted the redirect to this section. I'm sure there's plenty more to be found. Sorry about the mess. Laterthanyouthink (talk) 00:18, 29 October 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Support. Google tells me that there's quite a lot to be dug up on this body and the early history of emigration to other states, so it needs a separate article. It is mentioned in a few other articles, but none seem to relate to a general history of emigration to Australia. A few more which might be worth looking at, for whoever creates the article: The Great Emigration of 1841: Recruitment for New South Wales in British Emigration Fields; a thesis entitled "Irish female immigration during the great famine to South Australia" (a PDF - need to google); and Colonization Commissioners (SA State Records). Also finding more related to T.F. Elliot will return more info about the earlier office of "Agent-General for Emigration". I have too much else on my list to consider tackling this at the moment, but I hope someone else will... Laterthanyouthink (talk) 10:35, 28 October 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Split proposed