Talk:Enrico Fermi Nuclear Generating Station

message: This write up is so poor, that I think it should be discarded entirely and a new one written. There are numerous factual and grammatical errors throughout. jmsiiJmsii 21:49, 14 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Lots of work since then... the article now looks reasonable to me. Are we getting close to removing the cleanup tag? Andrewa 18:13, 17 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, it's still start-class, but it doesn't need the tag anymore. Next time I stop by I'll take it off (feel free to do it yourself).  Last chance for objections. Alfredo22 03:55, 7 September 2007 (UTC)

text: Ugh, is the new cut and paste from the NRC web page really an improvement (Sept 13 edit)?  It's a lot longer may be too technical.  I may revert it.  I don't think it was the solution to our citation problems. Alfredo22 04:22, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Cleanup

message: On DTE Energy's main website's news does speak of DTE possibly building an additional reactor.  The final desicison has not been made, but the NRC has given them the ability to make this new reactor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.38.3.94 (talk) 00:08, 23 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fermi 3 

message: This book is not a fiction book, regardless of how to owners would like it classified. The libary of congress lists it in 621 of the Dewey Decimal system as "Applied Physics"  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jessicabreckenridge (talk • contribs) 03:20, 19 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  We Almost Lost Detroit 

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thread_title:  Copyright problem removed 

message: Sodium cooled fast reactor operating at 500°C=900°F. PWR operating from 300°C=540°F (AP1000) to 500°C=900°F (EPR, RBMK).  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 123.24.104.114 (talk) 07:15, 3 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Incident 1966,  700°F  ??

message: "On October 5, 1966 Fermi 1 suffered a partial fuel meltdown, although no radioactive material was released."
anyone? an NRC.gov reference, maybe? something like that would have to be on record...  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.173.52.125 (talk) 04:43, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Can we get a reference here? 

message: Although it is almost impossible to link radiation exposure with health problems much later, I think there should be room for expressing dispute over the phrase "no one was injured."
I lived less than five miles from Fermi 1; I was eleven years old at the time.
I later played in a garage band with Tony Harrigan, who played electric violin. His father was Phil Harrigan, an engineer at the plant. His father had taken me on a tour of Fermi II while they were still struggling to bring Fermi I back on-line. Phil was very actively involved in the diagnosis and repair, and had worked around the clock during the crisis, often in a state of panic, often using improvised tools, often ignoring proper safety protocol, generally without a dosimeter.
Within a decade, Phil was dead of leukaemia, in his early 50's. I remember Tony's mother crying and saying, "They're dropping like flies."
My mother (Shirley Steinman) became active in the anti-Fermi movement. For some years, the confidential Fermi whistle-blower phone rang in our house. She has notes of calls from people who had worked through the accident and then come down with cancer, fearing for their jobs, claiming that whenever anyone got cancer at Fermi, they were immediately fired. She says almost no one who worked at Fermi I during the accident is still alive, all succumbing to various cancers.
So, my question is, what is the proper way to add this information? If I get my mother's written notes from the whistle-blower hot line, can they be cited as a reference? Can first-person testimony be included while maintaining neutral point-of-view?
People were injured as a result of the Fermi I melt-down. As I mentioned, it's hard to link cause and effect over a decade or longer, but I'm also sure a lot of this information has been covered up.
Bytesmiths (talk) 21:45, 27 November 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I've removed it. Personal correspondence is not a reliable source. It would need to be published by a reliable source. Exceptional claims require exceptional sources. The Michigan messenger article does not adequately support the statement that the "cancer rate has tripled since the meltdown" The article makes no mention of the meltdown or the Fermi 1 reactor. It specifically states that the rate tripled between 1996 and 2005 - 30-40 years after the incident, for people under the age of 25. Mr.Z-man 05:18, 4 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dispute about "no one injured" 

message: The article says that the shutdown of Fermi II on June 6, 2010 left 30,000 people in the area without power.  This is inaccurate.  A shutdown of a power plant, by itself, does not leave anyone without power.  Power plants in the United States and Canada are interconnected, and if one shuts down, others are run to provide the needed power.  The 30,000 customers were without power because the electric lines were down, not because the plant was shut down.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.53.120.63 (talk) 20:53, 28 May 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fermi II shutdown and power outages 

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message: Song: Gil Scott Heron - We almost Lost Detroit  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.243.2.30 (talk) 18:17, 10 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  In popular culture 

message: A blade of the main turbine broke apart on December 25th 1993. This huge chunk of metal tore through the plant narrowly missing the main containment vessel. It caused a fire and broke cooling pipes, which flooded the lower level of the plant with slightly radioactive water. It remained flooded for many months until the operator got permission to pump this water into Lake Erie.
This incident didn't cause a major "meltdown"  or release of highly radioactive material; to some degree proving that some of the safety protocols did work.
If my memory is correct, the most egregious cause of this incident was that there was a documented crack in the turbine blade. It had been, with the approval of the Nuclear Regulatory Commission, been welded several times rather then be replaced. 
How did this not make it into the article!? 2601:406:4302:59F0:D31:5C3B:673C:5C64 (talk) 17:32, 4 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Unmentioned major accident, failure of the main turbine at Fermi 2, Christmas Day 1993