Talk:Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks

message: someone should add that the painting is used on the cover of cossacks the game.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.111.72.115 (talk) 15:50, 27 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: the game

message: The result of the conflict between the Ottomans & the Cossacks has been reported inconsistently:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mehmed_IV suggests, the Ottomans won;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reply_of_the_Zaporozhian_Cossacks suggests, the Cossacks won.
The incorrect one needs to be corrected.
Eberber 17:28, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistency 

message: There is nothing about this letter in the Ottoman archives. Someone should add something like that: It is not certain that letter reached to the Mehmed Han 4.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 78.176.231.138 (talk) 09:59, 14 June 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  The letter is not a fact 

message: My brother pointed me to this article as being highly enjoyable, and so it is.  However, reading the talk page I do have some concerns.
First, there seems to be general agreement on the talk page here that the letter is "a fake".  But as far as I can see, the article does not say so at all!  The reader is mislead into thinking that this was an actual letter.  The talk page is unclear as well: a fake by whom?  when?  Is the entire story apocryphal?
Second, the translation currently on the page differs from those given here on the talk page, and no source or explanation is given.  If we need a high quality translation from Ukranian, I'm sure we can get that easily enough by asking some Ukranian Wikipedians to come help us out.  But surely one exists in an academic source already?
My view is that the translation should attempt, in modern English, to properly convey to the reader the "tone" of the original.  There's a big difference between "screw your mother", "fuck your mother" and, indeed, "fuck thy mother".  "Screw" is more polite - did they use a polite word in Ukranian for humorous effect?  "Your" versus "thy" suggests in modern English a bit of wry formality, the use of old fashioned formal langauge to convey a crude sentiment - is that in the original?
It's really important, as always, that we get it right!--Jimbo Wales (talk) 12:00, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It looks like people were really just quoting one article, which looks very scholarly with its PDF formatting, but does not cite any reason why the letter might be a fake. Looking to the Russian-language sources linked here, I see that an actual copy of the letter was found by a fellow named Новицкий. However, no further detail is provided. If you want real proof that the letter is real, we will have to go deeper. Nobody seems to have done the research to determine whether the letter is in the Sultan's archives, if indeed he has any. Shii (tock) 12:28, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Concerns about the article 

message: The letter shown here was obviously not written by Sultan Mehmet IV. It says he's the "brother of the sun and moon" and "son of God." At no time in history did Turkic leaders claim such titles.96.55.169.186 (talk) 19:10, 22 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sultan's letter to Cossacks is a fake 

message: There are some expressions in this Wikiedia article which are missing in the translation given in reference  :  That reference does not mention "slay a hedgehog with your naked ass" and "son of a bitch" and '"fuck thy mother" and  "goat-fucker" and "screw thine own mother".  I'm not a linguist, but I have the impression that "son of a bitch" and the f*** word are rather modern, anglo-saxon curses that may have been added lately. Reilinger (talk) 13:35, 3 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: They are in the original version, which dates at least to the 18th century.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 95.220.146.21 (talk) 06:38, 31 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  21st century add-ons? 

message: Hello! This is a note to let the editors of this article know that :File:Ilja Jefimowitsch Repin - Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks - Yorck.jpg will be appearing as picture of the day on April 23, 2014. You can view and edit the POTD blurb at Template:POTD/2014-04-23. If this article needs any attention or maintenance, it would be preferable if that could be done before its appearance on the Main Page. Thanks! — Crisco 1492 (talk) 00:15, 8 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[:File:Ilja Jefimowitsch Repin - Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks - Yorck.jpg]]

message: There is a chart on the Ukrainian article that seems to describe specific characters in this painting. I myself only know extremely rudimentary Ukrainian, bits and pieces heard around the house, but perhaps someone who is more fluent could review the extra details on the Ukrainian articles about this painting and perhaps add them if they can be verified? Thank you very much. Sphecidae (talk) 20:56, 1 November 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  A section on the Ukrainian article 

message: The actual name of this painting in Russian is "Запорожцы", just a one word. The most proper translation in English would be "Zaporozhian Cossacks". Nothing else.
The following link is an official site of the State Russian Museum (formerly the Russian Museum of His Imperial Majesty Alexander III) in Saint Petersburg.
http://www.virtualrm.spb.ru/node/2522  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.106.218.50 (talk) 14:30, 4 January 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wrong painting name 

message: Is this notable enough to be included among the cultural references? https://twitter.com/Biz_Ukraine_Mag/status/1414877329676021778 
Ukrainian MPs have recreated the famous “Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks” painting by Ilya Repin as they pen a response to Vladimir Putin’s absurd “Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians” essay
::also relevant: ukrainian soldiers recreate the painting https://i.imgur.com/K0tFVjx.jpg 79.180.251.162 (talk) 20:52, 19 March 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ukrainian MPs recreate “Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks” painting 

message: French photographer Émeric Lhuisset has recreated the painting "Reply of the Zaporozhian Cossacks" (c. 1890, by Ukrainian artist Illia Repin) by using soldiers of the 112th Territorial Defense Brigade of Ukraine during the current Russian invasion of Ukraine, in 2023.  Amazing detail.  The photo has appeared on the photographer's Instagram page, but will await coverage in reliable source media before it could warrant mentioning in this article. — N2e (talk) 03:21, 25 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  French photographer has recreated a 2023 homage with a (complicated) photo