Talk:Gecko (software)

message: On 01 Nov 2004, this article was cited in a SecurityFocus article on phishing. Securiger 06:50, 8 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  SecurityFocus cite 

message: The content in this page, while tentatively accurate, is misleading. The fact is that "Gecko" is not the official name, but Netscape's branded name. "Gecko" is used to describe Mozilla's NGLayout and XPFE. Please see http://www.mozilla.org/newlayout/gecko.html
I will eventually get around to trying to correct this (unless someone else volunteers :-)?).
:That link is to a press release from seven years ago. For the past five years I've been using Mozilla browsers, Mozilla developers have called the layout engine "Gecko." I can come up with plenty of recent references if you can't find them yourself. -- Schapel 05:17, 11 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The website is simply not updated well enough. The commonly used name is indeed Gecko. --asqueella 18:57, 27 May 2006 (UTC)

text: http://www.mozilla.org/newlayout/faq.html#What%20is might be useful. — Ian Moody (talk) 13:17, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gecko Mozilla rendering engine 

message: I'm not sure why was this link  added to this page. There are tens of thousands of pages related to mozilla, doesn't mean we should list all of them in the article. Can someone enlighten me? --asqueella 01:30, 7 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link 

message: I'm the product manager for Accept 360, one of the few (we believe) commercial apps that is implemented using the Gecko engine. I put a link to Accept 360 in this article (in the Other Applications" section) about a year ago, but it was removed in October 2006, without any comment. My thought was that the existence of a commercial application using XUL was relevant. On the other hand, I have a personal stake in the product. What's the consensus of this page's stakeholders on the appropriateness of my adding the link back? 
Thanks!
Nils Davis 19:54, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Link to commercial app in "Other apps" section 

message: According to the article gecko is the second most popular engine -- I assume popularity is measured by how many users a given rendering engine has. Given the complexities of measuring this kind of popularity and it's uncertainties, and the fact that the majority of users doesn't actively choose a rendering engine, but rather chooses a user interface, when an active choice is made, I propose that the notion is either removed, clarified or changed so that the number of software projects (where a choice regarding the rendering engine is made), is more important than the number of users. FrederikHertzum 17:33, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Why not simply change the wording from "second most popular" to "second most used"? The new wording completely clarifies the intended meaning. That fact is not disputed at all, and is very important because most web developers need to test with the most popular layout engines because there are too many browsers to test against. -- Schapel 17:47, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  How is popularity measured? 

message: The 1.9 section really needs to be updated. It only has ultra-preliminary speculation in it, we know more sure things about Gecko 2.0 than what the article lists for 1.9! --NetRolller 3D 21:24, 20 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update needed 

message: Current image is including a user name from Wikipedia. Can someone take a screenshot without a user logging-in?--OsamaK 17:44, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  logout image 

message: The link has died for the Gecko homepage. 142.177.88.140 (talk) 16:10, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dead Link 

message: Can anyone contribute anything to the Mozilla 2 section. Any major differences would be great to note. --71.170.132.183 (talk) 23:12, 12 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mozilla 2? 

message: Should mozilla suite add to the table? Matthew_hk tc 01:13, 1 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Mozilla Suite

message: epiphany has changed to webkit
90.237.186.221 (talk) 17:36, 5 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  epiphany 

message: can somebody help me with the table to add a new column what was in the release of gecko version X.XXX? want to create it similar to Presto (layout engine). mabdul 18:50, 27 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I would be willing to help, but I think it would make sense to create a new table with Gecko version, release date, code name, equivalent Mozilla Application Suite or Firefox release, notable new features, etc. -- Schapel (talk) 15:29, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: mmh, that does make sense. I will set up uch a table ;) mabdul 20:27, 28 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: started to prepare that table. everybody is included to help now ;) mabdul 13:53, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

text: THX. will help you... On Friday I will have enough free time ;) mabdul 15:32, 31 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  additional column to table 

message: Well, I think it's update time, no? :)-andy 217.50.49.10 (talk) 08:16, 16 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  8.0a1 is new preview release 

message: Firefox Release is now version 23. The table needs to be updated. I would do it, but Wikipedia does not like anybody with a close connection to the topic to edit an article. I am a Mozilla Beta Tester.
DevynCJohnson (talk) 21:38, 12 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  The table for Firefox needs to be updated 

message: Some information on this page is incorrect.   Specifically, the following section:
"Gecko is the third most-common layout engine on the World Wide Web, after Trident (used by Internet Explorer for Windows since version 4) and WebKit (used by Safari and Google Chrome).[6][7]"
Google Chrome no longer uses WebKit, they recently forked WebKit and created a new open source project called Blink (which is the rendering engine now used in Chrome).
Gecko may now be the fourth most common layout engine (after Trident, Webkit and Blink).  
Jacobg415 (talk) 18:32, 25 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Update needed to market share information 

message: "On Windows and similar platforms, Gecko depends on non-free compilers. Thus, FOSS distributions of Linux can not include the Gecko package used in the Windows compatibility layer Wine.[32]"
Not sure about the non-free compilers? Not true any more? Gecko is the browser component in Wine now? Doesn't that make the rest false? And the ref (and all under this section) don't match the refereneces. Seems to be because of the table. BTW. I've been adding to the table but think I will stop. It seems (mostly) useless (now). Cut it out entirely? Or say "version history up to X" where X is probably 1.9.2. Other projects used Gecko, but not so much anymore. SeaMonkey is "kind of" Firefox and PaleMoon more so (table not updated), but mostly they are based on Firefox in general and Gecko is not a separate project (with an indepented version number) anymore? comp.arch (talk) 11:22, 11 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Out of date compiler info? And useless table.. 

message: From their page: "Gecko is the name of the layout engine developed by the Mozilla Project". Why change title? "Web (layout?) engine" could also be true. Is it something more? "Software" could be anything. Not saying I disagree, just not sure why. comp.arch (talk) 13:03, 24 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  It IS software but ALSO a layout engine 

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message: I support the proposed merge, because informaiton about the Quantum project can easily be a section on this page. As it's a continuation of the same software (and not a branch), it seems like the right idea. - - mathmitch7 (talk/contribs) 18:47, 29 July 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: Quantum isn't a replacement for Gecko, though. 75.91.200.212 (talk) 11:35, 21 September 2018 (UTC)

text: Echoing the anonymous commenter above: Quantum is the codename for a bunch of Gecko improvements that made their way into mainline for Firefox 57.  This is *exactly* why these two articles are proposed for merge.  Quantum is neither a new browser engine, nor is it a fork of Gecko... -- C. A. Russell (talk) 02:15, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

text: Support, there doesn't seem to be enough for an entire article for Quantum.
* Support, Quantum is Gecko. AdA&D ☆ 14:42, 20 April 2019 (UTC)

text: Klbrain (talk) 11:55, 3 July 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge with [[Quantum (Mozilla)]] 

message: Information about web standards support for the Gecko engine is outdated. Complete support for CSS 3 and HTML 5 (Among other newer web standards) have already been implemented on the Gecko engine years ago. JF001 (talk) 20:12, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standards Support section is outdated 

message: I did find 1 source for this large part of the page:
Development of the layout engine now known as Gecko began at Netscape in 1997, following the company's purchase of DigitalStyle. The existing Netscape rendering engine, originally written for Netscape Navigator 1.0 and upgraded through the years, was slow, did not comply well with W3C standards, had limited support for dynamic HTML and lacked features such as incremental reflow (when the layout engine rearranges elements on the screen as new data is downloaded and added to the page). The new layout engine was developed in parallel with the old, with the intention being to integrate it into Netscape Communicator when it was mature and stable. At least one more major revision of Netscape was expected to be released with the old layout engine before the switch.
After the launch of the Mozilla project in early 1998, the new layout engine code was released under an open-source license. Originally unveiled as Raptor, the name had to be changed to NGLayout (next generation layout) due to trademark problems. Netscape later rebranded NGLayout as Gecko. While Mozilla Organization (the forerunner of the Mozilla Foundation) initially continued to use the NGLayout name (Gecko was a Netscape trademark), eventually the Gecko branding won out.[citation needed]
In October 1998, Netscape announced that its next browser would use Gecko (which was still called NGLayout at the time) rather than the old layout engine, requiring large parts of the application to be rewritten. While this decision was popular with web standards advocates, it was largely unpopular with Netscape developers, who were unhappy with the six months given for the rewrite. It also meant that most of the work done for Netscape Communicator 5.0 (including development on the Mariner improvements to the old layout engine) had to be abandoned. Netscape 6, the first Netscape release to incorporate Gecko, was released in November 2000 (the name Netscape 5 was never used).[citation needed]
As Gecko development continued, other applications and embedders began to make use of it. America Online, by this time Netscape's parent company, eventually adopted it for use in CompuServe 7.0 and AOL for Mac OS X (these products had previously embedded Internet Explorer). However, with the exception of a few betas, Gecko was never used in the main Microsoft Windows AOL client.[citation needed]
On July 15, 2003, AOL laid off the remaining Gecko developers and the Mozilla Foundation (formed on the same day) became the main steward of Gecko development. Today, Gecko is developed by employees of the Mozilla Corporation, employees of companies that contribute to the Mozilla project, and volunteers.[citation needed]
is that normal? V21v (talk) 16:38, 27 April 2023 (UTC)
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