Talk:Viktor Korchnoi

message: This article needs some help with sections and layout, rather than just being one big block of text. 64.38.194.13 17:16, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Layout 

message: Did his wife ever leave the Soviet Union? The article only talks about his son. AxelBoldt 00:28, 17 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wife? 

message: Korchnoi took the opportunity of the match to publicize the situation of his wife and son, drafting an open letter to the Soviet government to release them both. This continuing effort likely led to his dismal performance as Karpov swept to victory in what was dubbed the "Massacre in Merano".
likely?
:Good point. I've removed the linkage between the two events. Rocksong 04:15, 26 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Bias

message: I believe that the Korchnoi piece deserves "Top" importance rather than "High" on wiki's scale for chess. Bronstein and Keres also deserve "Top" importance, rather than "High", in my view, based on their achievements and status. And Portisch (which I am adding to) deserves to be boosted from "Mid" to "High", since Portisch was a top player for a very long period, with many impressive achievements.
Frank Dixon 14:02 (GMT +5), 22 August 2007 (UTC)
Nah, 'High' is about right for Korchnoi.  He's no Capablanca or Kasparov.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 207.210.51.222 (talk) 05:01, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Importance

message: There is no mention of the open letter from a number of proeminent soviet grandmasters (except bronstein, spassky and botvinnik, who refused to sign it - see David Bronstein) that condemned korchnoi for defecting. 
I think this is something interesting for the "defection" section, but sources needs to be found. 195.207.160.202 (talk) 14:40, 9 January 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: There are two sources for the open letter : Korchnoi, Chess is my Life and Bronstein, The Sorcerer Apprentice.--Cbigorgne (talk) 07:56, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  defection - soviet grandmasters condemning it 

message: A good place to begin is at the very start- Korchnoi and Karpov played two official matches for the title, not three, though I'll agree with anyone who recognises the 1974 candidates final as a de facto title bout.
There are numerous POV statements and instances of weasel words in text, which are apparent to me, even as I acknowledge that Korchnoi is one of my favourite players. Time for a heavy dose of NPOV for this piece. Hushpuckena (talk) 05:02, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Article Needs Attention 

message: This article is rated High-Importance. In my opinion, it should be rated Top-Importance, unless there is a policy that only World Champions or the equivalent (Adolf Anderssen, Howard Staunton, Philidor) can be Top-Importance. Korchnoi played two matches for the World Championship (1978 and 1981), and a third de facto World Championship match in 1974, all against Karpov (Fischer forfeited his title after the 1974 K-K match, making Karpov the champion). He came within a hair's-breadth of winning, and thereby becoming World Champion, in 1974 and 1978. Chessmetrics ranks Korchnoi No. 1 in the world for four months at the end of 1965, and in the top 10 almost continuously from May 1956 to November 1990, a longevity record that no one besides the immortal Emanuel Lasker can touch. Krakatoa (talk) 13:19, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, should be Top-Importance. --MrsHudson (talk) 13:33, 11 November 2009 (UTC)

text: It somewhat depends where you draw the line in the sand between Top and High. I do not care which side of the importance line this is in, although looking at criteria: "Top - Extremely important, even crucial, to its field, and very significant beyond it".  crucial? Most likely not. Was his defection very signnificant? Similiar chess players are Aaron Nimzowitsch, Judith Polgar, Paul Keres. All high. High seems fine to me. SunCreator (talk) 14:31, 11 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Importance Level? 

message: The article refers to this but doesn't really say why Korchnoi went out of favor. Guessing that it was because Karpov was well connected politically. Can anyone shed more light on this? ty66.25.177.117 (talk) 17:24, 1 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  More info on why Korchnoi was treated badly by the Soviet establishment? 

message: Did he ever see them again? Kingturtle = (talk) 02:53, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wife and son? 

message: The article Effect of the Siege of Leningrad on the city mentions Korchnoi as a survivor of the siege but his Wiki page has no mention of it. Other sources mention the fact, but go into little detail on how the siege affected his life, play, or ambition.. This passage seems apropos:
It is not difficult to trace the roots of this voracious hunger. As a boy, Korchnoi lost his father in the war, and then had to survive the grotesque privations of the Siege of Leningrad. “A youngster can live anywhere because it’s his life, he has not seen anything else,” he says. “But it did get into my blood that I have to be alert, have to fight – whether against difficult conditions in life, or against authority. From the very beginning, I was forced to become a fighter. A fighter in life, and so a fighter in chess.”
Is there a place for such info on his Wiki page? Joel.sbateman (talk) 05:44, 30 January 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Effect of the Siege of Leningrad on Korchnoi 

message: Could those editing the article to say that Korchnoi has died today please provide a source? I believe it's customary to do so. I have done a quick Google search but could not find anything.--Pawnkingthree (talk) 16:02, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: As usual it's all over twitter before the mainstream news outlets report it, but there's this. . More will follow, no doubt. MaxBrowne (talk) 16:14, 6 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Source for his death 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: The following have more details about his wives, son and step-mother:
https://www.nytimes.com/1982/01/30/world/mrs-korchnoi-a-pawn-in-a-soviet-power-game.html?pagewanted=all
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/05/15/The-son-of-self-exiled-chess-grand-master-Viktor-Korchnoi/4788390283200/
https://www.upi.com/Archives/1982/07/04/The-wife-son-and-step-mother-of-defected-Russian-chess/9247394603200/
http://www.chessdiagonals.ch/402840512
https://apnews.com/4eeeaf7cc60e4853a8766118e0db3c18
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-people-korchnoi/soviet-defector-korchnoi-challenger-for-world-chess-title-dies-at-85-idUSKCN0YS25Y
http://theweekinchess.com/chessnews/obituaries/viktor-korchnoi-1931-2016 (includes links to 7 other obituaries)
Press Association obit.: https://www.independent.ie/world-news/victor-korchnoi-chess-grandmaster-who-defected-from-soviet-union-dies-aged-85-34777283.html
Perhaps more can be added to the article from some of them. Mcljlm (talk) 02:53, 26 May 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Family, etc. 

message: Over decades I have read the statement that Korchnoi was being fought by the Soviet State to make him step back against Karpov many many times. It is also presented that way in this article - with a "citation needed" attached. The whole article is full of citations, but this very cornerstone of the entire "Korchnoi saga" misses one ? Personally I do not know any better, but I wonder if that statement and from there the entire logic can remain unchallenged in Wikipedia if this cannot be proven. In the Cold War it was of course very nice for some to have this thorn in the side of soviet chess, but I would not call them objective sources. Obviously the same argument works the other way for soviet contemporary sources. So I wonder if there isn't anything which was released after 1990 that can shed objective light on all of this. Otherwise I think those sentences need to be rephrased in order to better show the ambiguity. JB. --92.193.254.211 (talk) 17:32, 9 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Any proof yet ?