Talk:Gib (video gaming)

message: I'm re-editing the bad links.  I accidentally hit save instead of preview.  BlueNight 03:25, 23 Aug 2004 (UTC)

message: As I am sort of newish to Wikipedia, I don't trust my editing skills fully just yet. However, I feel that this page is in need of a "fix up". Firstly, the screenshot picture of Doom (regardless of being allowed) appears in the opening page without warning to the casual (and possibly underage) reader that it depicts dated graphic violence. There is also a concern that there are too many superficial links to non-related pages. If you are reading this and have more experience editing, please help. 203.214.96.197 (talk) 07:08, 12 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The quality of this page 

message: The list of gibing games seems to cut off at 1999. I don't know many other more modern gibbing games except Halo and Halo 2, the flood tend to come off in little chunks, arms and heads so maybe that should be added. TostitosAreGross 21:44, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, it's a list of "Notable gibs", not all games with gibs. At least Doom 3 and Painkiller had gibs but maybe it's not worth mentioning them either.. Gibs have been pretty much the same besides some of the "innovations" in the games mentioned in the list. -anon 16:31, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Halo Gibs 

message: This article may need a section on ludicrous gibs as well.  --The Yar 17:39, 8 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ludicrous gibs 

message: The Lithtech engine, first seen in the game Shogo: Mobile Armor Division (1998), was the first game engine in which gibs were dismembered portions of the character's actual polygon model, rather than unique objects created by the game to replace the destroyed character model.
Actually the earliest game that i can think of where this feature was implemented was the russian made 1st person shooter "Chasm - The Rift", where it was possible to separate body parts with the use of blade discs and laser bolts. The game had 3d polygon graphics similar to "Quake" and was released in 1997.
Bigbadmutha 06:28, 2 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Notable Gibs 

message: There definitely needs to be a mention of Gears of War in the "Notable Gibs" section. GoW is, in my mind, the first next-gen game to really have gibs. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.54.12.79 (talk) 04:51, 4 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gears of War 

message: Forgive me if I'm wrong, but aren't those gibs from Quake II? In the Quake gibs picture. 68.21.38.144 18:54, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "gibs in Quake" pic 

message: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Hulk:_Vengeance_of_the_Blood_Angels
This game, I believe, belongs in the notable gib section, as it's a particularly violent game, and only has a Teen ESRB rating (in the Playstation 1 and Sega Saturn release, the computer version was pre-ESRB). Genestealers (the main enemies in the game) leave behind a random body part when killed (limb, head, gore), as well as splatter the floor, walls, and ceiling above them with blood. As well, the space marines when killed crumple to the ground resembling the gory corpses of Doom and Wolfenstein (and in a particularly cool note the surviving members of the team will mourn the fallen space marine by name and swear vengence :D). By the end of any given level, more of the level surfaces than not are covered with blood and gore.
71.185.131.79 15:32, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Space Hulk

message: :Image:Doom gibs.png is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in Wikipedia articles constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Doom gibs.png

message: I've been wondering what the first game to feature "gibs" (even if they weren't called that at the time) was. The article lists Doom as one of the first, but some older arcade games like Altered Beast and Narc (both 1988?) featured something very similar. Is it worth adding something about these, or are we strictly sticking to FPS-genre stuff here? 88.111.234.168 17:27, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'd also like to add Techno Cop (1988) to the early "gibs" games.  The "explosive bullets" your cop would fire would cause bad guys to explode into a twitching heap of arms and entrails.  Very fun stuff for a 10 year old when they finally ported it onto Genesis (it was the first game to get a warning label on Genesis --this was years before it became standardized). --Bobak 15:18, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Older games 

message: :Image:Ut-Gibs.jpg is being used on this article. I notice the image page specifies that the image is being used under fair use but there is no explanation or rationale as to why its use in this Wikipedia article constitutes fair use. In addition to the boilerplate fair use template, you must also write out on the image description page a specific explanation or rationale for why using this image in each article is consistent with fair use.
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BetacommandBot (talk) 02:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Ut-Gibs.jpg

message: Recently, if you look at the history of this article, you will note that a user named "Ham Pastrami" unilaterally decided that "gibs" belonged only as a minor subheading in the "graphic violence" article.  His redirect edit eliminated the distinct article on "gibs,"  including many details particular to this distinct and important kind of violent graphical depiction that are present in the stand-alone article.  In my opinion, "gibs" are indeed a distinct and significant type of graphic violence and thus, an article devoted solely to "gibs" is appropriate and should be allowed to stand.  I would ask that Mr. Pastrami debate drastic changes such as redirects FIRST, if indeed he feels that he must do these things.
Carlwillis (talk) 20:35, 6 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why "gibs" should be a standalone article 

message: The examples section of this article is out of control.  While I'm as much of a fanboy as the next person, we can't simply have examples added willy-nilly.  And it's not obvious how best to trim the list.  Usually, naming the first examples and especially notable titles (e.g. where the feature is significantly expanded on) is best.  While Smash TV is listed here as the first example, given the date that it appeared, I doubt that's correct.  While I can't provide any evidence to support my hunch, I'm sure that earlier titles included enemy gibbing.  Doom and Quake II seem a reasonable cites, but I'd be delighted to hear other suggestions for how to bring this article section under control.  My opening gambit would be to delete the whole section ... ;-)  Cheers, --PLUMBAGO 13:21, 10 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, no responses yet.  I'll hack the section out for now and place it here.  I'd be happy to restore some of the examples, but the list really needs to be trimmed down (probably to no more than the titles still mentioned in the text plus a ragdoll example or two).  Cheers, --PLUMBAGO 13:16, 12 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I would definately distinguish Gibs in Rise of the Triad from say DooM in the sense that in doom they were more disintegrations to just go from a not corpse state to a corpse state through what amounted to a flipbook animation.  In RotT is was a vastly more pronounced affair.  You'd get to the corpse state, but only after hands feet and eye balls flew at you, hit the walls and slid down.  Smash TV was sort of an early inbetween you get to the dead state with something of the same point to keep things tidy, but the display was completely over the top for it's time.  To my mind the notable gibs are not necessarily the popular where it might be a direct means to an end, but the first and spectacular advances in Gib-dom.  DooM, Heretic, DukeNukem3D etc wouldn't qualify.--Insancipitory (talk) 16:57, 25 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Examples 

message: Hi. I removed BloodRayne from the list. It's a nice game but there really was nothing notable about its violence. The article said "the first non-shooter game featuring gibs" or something like it - and that's just wrong. Look at Die by the Sword, Nightmare Creatures, Heavy Metal F.A.K.K. 2 etc..
Btw: The whole list is crap. --F4LL0UT (talk) 22:42, 15 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  BloodRayne (and more) 

message: I think Bulletstorm can be added to the list. Thanks. 21:50, 13 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Bulletstorm]] 

message: I tried to stick pretty hard to the idea of "What new thing did it do?" when selecting a notable gib. If you have any contest to my edits, please talk it out first before this list gets bloated again. Zero Serenity (talk) 16:07, 18 October 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cut down the notable list