Talk:Naïve art

message: Naive art and Naive Art currently point to different pages; these should probably be merged in some way.
:Fixed. Chameleon 10:31, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I thought that too.  It's unfortunate that someone put together two French words like that.  For the record, in French it's faux naïf in the masculine and fausse naïve in the feminine.  Perhaps "pseudo-naïve" would be better English.  Chameleon 10:45, 12 Sep 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Faux bad French?

message: Why is Emerik Fejes not included in the list of Naive artists?
Also, In studying him, I find that he is described as both a Serb and a Croat.  I don't want to offend either country by misrepresenting  his origins.
robin wheeler 21:29, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Emerik Fejes 

message: What's the appropriate standard of notability for determining whether someone should be included on this page? Dce7 01:14, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think I've found the answer to my own question.  From the WP notability guidelines: "... list articles like List of English writers are expected to include only notable writers." Dce7 20:51, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

text: My complaints are perfectly straight. I'm talking about the general standard for inclusion on list articles.  For example, on the List of English writers article, only notable writers should be included.  This article is a list article, so only notable members of that categoory (notable practitioners of naive art) should be included here. Dce7 23:02, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Fair question.  See WP:Notability (people) and look at the Creative Professionals section. Dce7 23:47, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

text: The standard practice is that people who do not have their own Wikipedia articles should be removed from lists like this one.  If you would like to list someone on this page, but they do not have their own article, then you can create one.  However, the subject of an independent article must satisfy the Wikipedia notability guidelines.  For artists, the guidelines for creative professionals are applicable.  See WP:BIO. Dce7 23:48, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

text: It's a store, and commercial links are spam. Awien (talk) 15:23, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standard for inclusion? 

message: The image :Image:Nomer25.jpg is used in this article under a claim of fair use, but it does not have an adequate explanation for why it meets the requirements for such images when used here.  In particular, for each page the image is used on, it must have an explanation linking to that page which explains why it needs to be used on that page.  Please check
:* That there is a non-free use rationale on the image's description page for the use in this article.
:* That this article is linked to from the image description page.
This is an automated notice by FairuseBot. For assistance on the image use policy, see Wikipedia:Media copyright questions. --06:09, 23 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Image copyright problem with Image:Nomer25.jpg

message: i rewrote the lead a bit, removed some redlinks of artists, and am working on turning museums into names with references at bottom, not just ext. links, which is sloppy. some museums were promotional artist sites. i left redlinks of artists with other mentions on WP as a courtesy, although most of these mentions still have no references on those pages. its up to the person adding a name to demonstrate notability. this article can easily become a dump for nonnotable artists, and deserves better.Mercurywoodrose (talk) 16:25, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  redlinks, etc 

message: My name is Kevin Lajiness;  . 
I consider myself a Naive Artist in all mediums that I work. it is my hope to have Naive Art be extended 
to include Naive Music as a genre by getting a consensus from the art and music industry and its artist.
"Franz Berwald had already created a style of Naïve musical art in Sweden nearly four decades prior. These two artists’ concepts of what makes art “Naïve” are surprisingly similar, and it is easily discerned what an early twentieth-century Swedish composer would have seen as stylistic inspiration in both the music of Berwald, and the works of contemporary Naïve visual artists" ;NAÏVE ART AND ITS REFLECTION IN SWEDISH MUSIC by ADAM DAVID CORZATThttps://etd.ohiolink.edu/rws_etd/document/get/case1238767722/inline
 
"The question arises, then, as to what exactly Primitivism means in terms of both"
The term "primitivism" is often applied to other professional painters working in the style of naïve or folk art like Henri Rousseau, Mikhail Larionov, Paul Klee and others.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitivism
"defined as attributes of primitive expression: absence of linear perspective, simple outlines, presence of symbolic signs such as the hieroglyph, emotive distortions of the figure, and the energetic rhythms resulting from the use of repetitive ornamental pattern"
In comparison one might say that the use of simple beat matched to the vocals " musical Loops" accompaniments do the same for the music exspecial "energetic rhythms resulting from the use of repetitive patterns" (Loops)68.44.188.39 (talk) 02:24, 6 March 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Naive Art to include Music 

message: I think there should at least be a reference to Chris. Chan's "Sonichu". It is a classic example of. Naive art to me. I'm not sure where notability comes into this, but he seems to be big on Youtube and 4Chan. Should this be mentioned in the article? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.36.66.31 (talk) 23:44, 15 February 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chris Chan and Sonichu 

message: As requested, the list is now in alphabetical order. I removed the massive messages about it from this page. Celestialghost (talk) 07:57, 9 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Alphabetical 

message: Hello fellow Wikipedians,
I have just modified 2 external links on Naïve art. Please take a moment to review my edit. If you have any questions, or need the bot to ignore the links, or the page altogether, please visit this simple FaQ for additional information. I made the following changes:
*Added  tag to http://www.midan.org/
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20060623094855/http://www.museeartnaif.com/ to http://www.museeartnaif.com/
*Added archive https://web.archive.org/web/20131230071628/http://primitivista.com/ to http://www.primitivista.com/
When you have finished reviewing my changes, you may follow the instructions on the template below to fix any issues with the URLs.
Cheers.—InternetArchiveBot (Report bug) 03:31, 15 February 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links modified (February 2018) 

message: I propose merging Naive art into Outsider art. I think the content in Naive art can easily be explained in the context of outsider art; various sources note a close relationship between the two terms - even does our articles - some stating outsider art as the sovereign term. A merger would not cause any article-size or weighting problems in Outsider art. DMT Biscuit (talk) 22:39, 3 December 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Oppose per Ewulp. I had intended to say the same, but they got to it first, and frankly sourced and explained it better than I would have. Even if the categories were not distinct, the intent behind them is. (Naïve vs primitive is a more interesting argument though.) — HTGS (talk) 23:50, 12 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merger proposal  

message: The following Wikimedia Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion:
* 
You can see the reason for deletion at the file description page linked above. —Community Tech bot (talk) 22:52, 28 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for speedy deletion