Talk:Man of Constant Sorrow

message: What's this comparison of the film version of the song to Dylan? There's really nothing to discuss. The film clearly makes use of Ralph Stanley's lyrics and vocal style and has nothing to do with Dylan's version. --Dystopos (talk) 21:19, 15 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The same question brought me to the talk page. It suggests that Dylan's version is the original, which of course, it isn't. The relevant comparison would be to the original. Truprint (talk) 22:17, 14 November 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Say what you will:  I have a hard time believing that they would have picked out this particular song without Dylan's version being out there, but I could be wrong. Shocking Blue (talk) 17:46, 10 March 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Soggy Bottom Boys & Bob Dylan

message: (The below 'claim to fame' was removed from Article Page by Joe Hepperle (me). I am putting it here in case it does have some value somewhere. This is in lieu of just deleteing it out-of-hand. If no other editors can find any related value in it, it can probably be deleted completely.)
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:: "Wikipedia is the Encyclopedia that people can contribute.  I have no money to donate to their cause.  Let me contribute this:
:: Many of the first settlers of Kentucky came through the Cumberland Gap with Daniel Boon.  Many who followed were fled conditions of involuntary servitude as an apprentice.  They were often welcomed by the new settlers as their trades were in demand.  Many near the Ohio boarder where Quakers and many Quakers who opposed slavery left the south to head north.  Some claim that the song contains lyrics to direct escaped slaves to safe houses on the underground railroad.  These lyrics in the movie include"
:: "For six long years I have been in trouble, no peace on earth here have I found"-  reference to the average of 7 years of indentured servitude by one escaping his sale as an apprentice to a tradesman. 
:: "for in this world I am bound to ramble. I have no friends to help me now."- a reference to the Quakers or the society of friends who often served as conductors on the underground railroad.  
:: "Fare thee well, my own true lover, I never expect to see you again"-  A reference to the pain involved with a person who chose to "run".  
:: I have no citations to back up these claims.  My family hails from Campbell Kentucky and I was told by a 99 year old man in Milwaukee Wisconsin that his parents told him that the green bay toll road was a land route on the Underground railroad, that a series of bells were rung from farm house to farm house to toll house as a warning system, and that the song "Man of Constant Sorrow" played as an instrumental was a code to suggest to escaped slaves where they could find safe harbor.  I was told this before the film came out.  
:: But NOTHING of this testimony given to me can be confirmed in records at the Wisconsin Historical Society which does contain detailed accounts and names of conductors on the Underground railroad that were published after the civil war.  No record exists to support these claims.  I can find no evidence from any state historical society to show that a melody alone, played as an instrumental was used as a code on the underground railroad.  The point was stressed to me however, that the melody line itself was the code.  With all due respect to Wikipedia, I can find no source to footnote to support this oral claim given to me.  "
:: Quoted text is from the same author.  Paxton Leee@(removed email address - JH)....and the content comes from testimony given to me....which may be hearsay....and cannot be confirmed from primary source documents although I have tried. 
END  Joe Hepperle (talk) 20:32, 27 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Fame Claim 

message: Thanks to YouTube, the 1961 version by Roscoe Holcomb's is also well-known:  (over 879,000 views so far), although to add it to the article some kind of confirmatory  secondary source(s) would be needed, of course. Martinevans123 (talk) 21:16, 6 June 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no problem with adding it, but we'll see first if someone wants to delete some of the other versions. No point in adding versions when someone else wants to delete them. Hzh (talk) 00:21, 7 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Roscoe Holcomb]] 

message: I'm thinking of using the first verse of Burnett's published version in the lyrical variations section. I think the Burnett's version of the lyrics should be out of copyright now, does anyone know if this is in fact so? Hzh (talk) 14:51, 13 June 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lyrics 

message: why isnt the hard rock band Charm City Devils cover version of this song list in notable covers, it came out in 2012 from their 2012 album Sins.--Boutitbenza 69 9 (talk) 08:28, 9 October 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Charm City Devils cover of this song isn't mentioned in notable covers 

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message: Recorded "Man Of Constant Sorrow" on his album "Folksy" in 1967. Writing credits are for Paul Stookey and Peter Yarrow of  "Peter, Paul & Mary" as are the credits on the PP&M version.  2001:56A:FA85:3800:2516:B068:CCBE:262A (talk) 01:16, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably because George Hamilton IV used Peter Paul and Mary's version titled "Sorrow" . Since the lyrics are just variations of previous versions, perhaps Paul Stookey and Peter Yarrow were claiming credit for the tune, which is different from one performed by The Stanley Brothers. However, I think their version is very similar to Joan Baez's, and she recorded that before Peter Paul and Mary but not released until later (Joan Baez only claimed arrangement of a traditional song). Judy Collins did a similar one, probably also before them. I'd say their credit claim is dubious, probably only valid for the song's arrangement. Hzh (talk) 02:30, 25 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  George Hamilton IV