Talk:John Mayer/Archive 1

message: "He is an unoriginal, minimally talented "artist" who is popular among teeny boppers" should probably be cut, no? Infamous30 01:49, 21 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  bias in article 

message: Not only are the "facts" presented in this section extremely dubious (e.g. the song does not reference JLH), but also the whole section doesn't make any sense.  Starting out with an obscure ref on Family Guy, it then degenerates into what seems to be a personal attack.
I recommend that we keep the Family Guy reference and delete all the unfounded speculation and nonsense. Jaysbro 13:30, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I second this suggestion.  The Family Guy reference is verfiable. The JLH thing is nonsense, and so is the Humphreys over analysis - which isn't really appropriate for an encyclopedia article anyway.--Esprit15d 21:02, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Disputed 

message: Why is the information about Mayer's composing songs while naked in there? It adds nothing to the article, it is unsourced (and thus unverifiable), it doesn't fit in its section, and it doesn't fit with the general tone of the article. It seems to be a detail an obsessive stalker would obsess over. Jaysbro 13:39, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: FYI: According to an NPR interview (with John) he wrote Daughters naked after a shower.  Also this quote site says John said that he wrote his first album semi-nude and Daughters completely naked.  This tidbit is further verified in a Newsweek article.  So, it is verifiable, but the jury's still out on how relevant it is. Maybe in a trivia section (and more tastefully written)?--Esprit15d 21:10, 26 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Irrelevant Info? Unsourced? 

message: Mayer has said he never dated Heidi Klum, per an interview with Blender Magazine.--Esprit15d 14:18, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Heidi Klum

message: This paragraph:
Although Mayer has maintained a reputation for being a sensitive singer-songwriter, he is also an accomplished guitarist influenced by the likes of Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Eric Clapton, Buddy Guy, Freddie King and B.B. King. Mayer has worked with many important blues musicians including Eric Clapton (Back Home, Crossroads Guitar Festival), Buddy Guy (Bring 'em in), John Scofield (That's What I Say) and B.B.King (80). 
seems (in context of the rest of the article), totally redundant, and breaks up the flow of the rest of the section.  All those individual artists have already been mentioned (come twice already) and the details of the collaborations can be found in the guest contributions section.  I think the paragraph should be taken out.  Comments?--Esprit15d 14:49, 13 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Questionable paragraph 

message: I noticed in a picture I saw of John (it was a live show) that he wears dog tags (military issue with silencers).  I wear tags like this, and I haven't been involved with the military, I was just wondering if John was ever in the military or involved with it.  I'm trying to find that damn picture, sorry for now.  67.71.50.206 03:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, but I don't think that was what he was wearing. It was probably a Youth Aids Tag . He is one of the charities spokespeople. Iorek85 01:47, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Military background? 

message: I would love for this to become a good article, but it just isn't there yet.  More citations, better prose, and written more like an acutal article - not to mention a intro that summarizes the article - would all get this article moving in the right direction.--Esprit15d 15:30, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Good article 

message: There have been a number of parodies and general critisms of Mayer, including jokes in Family Guy and other TV shows. Some people feel the John Mayer is the archetypal corporate rocker.[citation needed] Others argue that Mayer is too real, and that his vunerabiliy attracts derision due to the difficuly some "old school" rockers have with the new "sensitive" rock.[citation needed] In any case, his strange movements in concert and strained vocals are certainly a subject of parody.
Is a terribly written paragraph that is not backed up with any references at all. Stating that Mayer is 'too real' makes zero sense to me, as does the following his vunerabiliy attracts derision due to the difficuly some "old school" rockers have with the new "sensitive" rock. My preference would be for the entire paragraph to be removed as it reall adds nothing to the article.--Spoco2 05:42, 7 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Terrible Paragraph 

message: How on earth can you be a "sensitive juggernaut"? --Thoughtcat 12:24, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Contradiction in terms

message: What do people think about including the whole Jessica Simpson bit? Jennifer Love Hewitt is mentioned in this article, so it'd just be another romantic tidbit or whatever. Plus, there is the benefit of the fact that it was on a People magazine cover only for him to say that it was overblown by her camp... Ecurran 13:53, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Jessica Simpson

message: Archive this page.  It is very  very long. 16:15, 16 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Archive this page. It is very  very long.

message: There has been a recent rash of article editing in an attempt to convey that Mayer has died.  This is likely due to what is an apparent hoax group on Facebook:
http://stthomas.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2229180514 Charmston 02:08, 21 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mayer's "death" 

message: I've read the article several times over, as well as the peer reviews. The copywriting has definitely improved since a few months ago, so it passes the first GA criterion. (I quite like the writing in the lead and Early life sections, kudos!) I see no major problems either in the second and fourth criteria (I've described the minor problems below), so my problem lies mainly in criterion 3b—there are just too many details here.
*Career. That first orphaned paragraph needs a subheader.
*Mainstream success. 
**"Bigger Than My Body," was thought by some to be Mayer's attempt to demonstrate that he was not just a one-trick pony - I'm iffy about this sentence. Some critics? Some fans? Some artichokes? It'd be nice if you can come up with a cite for this and make it sound more specific.
**John Mayer is often referred to as "the best guitarist of our generation." - by whom? Avoid weasel words, or unsupported citations. If you can't come up with a reputable source on that sentence, it should be taken out.
*The next album. This can be taken out, the tone of the section is entirely speculative. Please see Wikipedia is not a crystal ball.
*Touring. Album titles need to be italicized, and that last paragraph needs an update to specify his current tour.
*Personal life. I think his interest in designing/graphic design should also be included. He's mentioned it several times in interviews and in his blog for the past few years now. Just a few sentences will do. Make sure the facts are cited, of course.
**Also, has his synethesia been verified and diagnosed? I have that very issue of RS, and I'd take his comments with a grain of salt. I'm a fan of his too, and he has a warped sense of humor sometimes, that it's usually misinterpreted and brought out of context in the media. I think it's safe to just remove it, until he comes up with psychiatric verification. I'm just not totally convinced with the little evidence that there is on it.
*Selected events. This section is simply too long, and I think a lot of it can be trimmed down. It even seems longer than the first half of the article about his music. There is no need to go into intense detail here, please see WP:NOT#IINFO. There also seems to be too many dates.  Some suggestions of what events can be left out: the prom, the satellite radio shows, even the Oprah, Letterman, and MacExpo appearances. (Unless you can find a source about him being an Apple user—which I know he is—and then link it to the MacExpo appearances. Just a humble suggestion there.) As for the events that remain, a lot of the descriptions can be trimmed down. IMHO, I don't think it's necessary to summarize his skit on Chappelle's Show or his CSI appearance, but it's okay to summarize Mayer's one-off VH1 TV show, as has been already done.
**Also, I think, once you've trimmed down the Selected events section, the remaining content can be merged into the Other endeavors section. As it stands now: Other endeavors - Personal life - Selected events...the article doesn't flow well at this point. I also think you can come up with a better title than either "other endeavors" or "selected events". And once you have the merged section, I'd also suggest breaking it up with subheaders (TV, writing, or whatever).
*Discography. Since the John Mayer discography article exists, all details, like sales, chart positions, and certifications can be included in that separate discography article. For a biographical article, a simple bulleted or tabulated list will suffice. For the list of albums, you can just list the title and years of release/re-release. It might also be a good idea to segregate his studio albums from his live albums. The singles section can also follow: a bulleted list and the years of release. Some musicians' articles use Wikitables to group together a singles discography by release dates and albums, but that's optional.
**Album titles in the Selected collaborations section aren't properly formatted either. Stick to a consistent format for all the songs, whatever you'll define it to be. You might also want to remove the soundtrack entries, they're already mentioned in the discog article, and seem out of place in a section that's supposed to be about collaborations.
*External links. There are just too many that this article is bordering on being a fan site. IMHO, all the links under the "General" and "Interviews" subheaders can be taken out, but only the link to guitar tabs can be kept. I'd keep the RS site link to the Hendrix article, but take out the Dennen one, as it links to a fan site.
*Other issues (won't have to be fulfilled just yet to be granted GA status, but just a few ideas for further improvement)
**There are some footnotes that don't follow the correct citation format. Doesn't have to be done now, but there's one task for the future, especially if you're ultimately aiming for this to be FA.
**Also one section that I'm surprised is not included in this article is a list of awards and nominations (e.g. Christina Aguilera). It's just a suggestion, but isn't really imperative. Some of the stuff mentioned in the "Selected events" section can be moved to a subtopic on a list of awards.
The article has some good copywriting and important, stable facts and at least one willing and hard-working editor around, which is why I don't think the GA nom should fail just yet. There's still significant improvement to be made, especially in whittling down all the detail that can be otherwise left out. Please address these issues within a week, or else the nom fails. I hope it's a reasonable amount of time. I also might be checking in every now and then to see if everything's on the right track. Anyone else with suggestions to improve this article, please comment, or better yet, pitch in and edit! Thanks! - NicolaM 06:11, 28 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA on hold 

message: *Career. - FIXED
*Mainstream success. - FIXED
*The next album. - FIXED
*Touring. - FIXED
*Personal life. - FIXED (individual issues addressed below) 
**Also, has his synethesia been verified and diagnosed? I have that very issue of RS, and I'd take his comments with a grain of salt. I'm a fan of his too, and he has a warped sense of humor sometimes, that it's usually misinterpreted and brought out of context in the media. I think it's safe to just remove it, until he comes up with psychiatric verification. I'm just not totally convinced with the little evidence that there is on it.
*** - Kept it, shortened it, reffed it, and mentioned that he has not received a formal diagnosis.  I thought it should stay, as it often comes up in interviews, reviews, analyses, etc... and is said to influence his music (eg - "Bold as Love") and so is a relevant, though admittedly minor, fact in a well-rounded article about him.  I tried to phrase it to reflect the somewhat dubious nature of the fact.
*Selected events.  - FIXED (IMHO) - did a lot of trimming, cut the talk shows, took out Chapelle descrips. etc...  Kept MacWorld, b/c he has gone literally every year for the last few years, and is literally a fixture now.  But I trimmed it.
**Also, I think, once you've trimmed down the Selected events section, the remaining content can be merged into the Other endeavors section. As it stands now: Other endeavors - Personal life - Selected events...the article doesn't flow well at this point. I also think you can come up with a better title than either "other endeavors" or "selected events". And once you have the merged section, I'd also suggest breaking it up with subheaders (TV, writing, or whatever).
***— Definitely saw your points about flow issues.  Changed name of "other endeavors" to "other projects."  Didn't see how all of them could be coherently merged, though (OP are his deliberate side projects, SE are incidental occurrences of note, and "personal life" definitely didn't fit in those other two cats), but I did move "other projects" under the umbrella heading of "Career."
*Discography.— FIXED
*External links.— FIXED
*Other issues (won't have to be fulfilled just yet to be granted GA status, but just a few ideas for further improvement)— not fixed, but great suggestions that I (or, I don't know, another editor) should address soon.--Esprit15d  (talk ¤ contribs) 16:12, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA hold response

message: The work done since the nomination looks great. I am able to understand the rationale with Other projects vs. Selected events. All the details remaining in the article seem significant enough to merit inclusion, and nice touch with the music samples there.
Keep up the good work. I hope contributors can maintain this article's quality. Refer to WP:WIAGA when in doubt, especially on criteria 2, 3b, and 4. - NicolaM 03:13, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm euphoric.  Thanks again.--Esprit15d  (talk ¤ contribs) 13:45, 3 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: GA Passed

message: Japanese speakers: What do you make of John's red carpet comment? ジェシカはとてもすてきな女性で、一緒にいられて最高です。I really fail to see how "you're the last to know" comes into it. Totemo sutekina josei, very beautiful woman, pretty straightforward. I know Saikou = the best and isshoni = together, irarete = potential form of "to be", so "it's the best to be together with her" is what it's looking like to me. Any natives want to drop a word in? M.C. Brown Shoes 03:27, 13 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Japanese translation

message: Why in blue fu*k do the fan sites keep being removed from external links? they are valid links.
I've allready had three complaints from people asking why I removed them. I didn't. The jerk sitting on his magical wiki-admin horse did.
So I ask this question, and I expect an answer, I don't care who from. WHAT IS WRONG WITH HAVING LINKS TO FANSITES?
at the very least have the toolbar link (the best John Mayer resource for daily updates on the web)
You can forward any replies, complaints, hatemail ect to: renee@musicianslovejohnmayer.com
- Renee May 
(Is one pissed off Panda)'''
:Wiki admin horse? I removed them, once at least. I'm hardly even a very active Wikipedian, far be it an admin. Wikipedia isn't a list of fan cites. I cited the policy when I removed them. Please follow policy, and also please avoid profanity/personal attacks. Thank you. Cheeser1 21:14, 20 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That is not a good reason. Those fansite links are also not supposed to be there. You can't justify one policy violation with another. Cheeser1 21:39, 18 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why? 

message: This page probably belongs at John Mayer, seeing that the two other John Mayer articles are stubs and appear not nearly as notable. In addition, would anyone object to archiving this talk page? Thoughts? Cheers. --MZMcBride 22:06, 22 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archive and page move 

message: :The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section. 
John Mayer (musician) → John Mayer — The musician is clearly the most notable of the three. MZMcBride 02:12, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Add  # Support  or  # Oppose  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.  Please remember that this is not a vote; comments must include reasons to carry weight.
# Support As nominator. The musician is clearly what's intended when typing "John Mayer." --MZMcBride 02:14, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

text: Add any additional comments:
*I figure that this will go through, but the John D. Mayer who is behind the EQ/EI/EK research is a pretty well-known person. Dekimasuよ! 03:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.
This article has been renamed  as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 08:40, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: :Add  # Support  or  # Oppose  on a new line in the appropriate section followed by a brief explanation, then sign your opinion using ~~~~.  Please remember that this is not a vote; comments must include reasons to carry weight.
# Support As nominator. The musician is clearly what's intended when typing "John Mayer." --MZMcBride 02:14, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey

message: :Add any additional comments:
*I figure that this will go through, but the John D. Mayer who is behind the EQ/EI/EK research is a pretty well-known person. Dekimasuよ! 03:55, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal.  Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.</div>
This article has been renamed  as the result of a move request. --Stemonitis 08:40, 30 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Discussion

message: A lot of information has recently been added to this article without referencing.  I will be making efforts to reference this information, and invited any other editors to do so as well.--Esprit15d  (talk ¤ contribs) 13:50, 23 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  References 

message: Need to update article to include recent John Mayer Two-Rock Signature Amplifier (see www.two-rock.com). —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Andrewjoseph70 (talk • contribs) 05:05, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Done.--Esprit15d (talk ¤ contribs) 17:49, 10 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Mayer Two-Rock Signature Amp 

message: Celebrity gossip sites almost all reported that Mayer and Jessica Simpson have ended their relationship as of 5/18/2007.  Someone may want to keep their eyes open for verification of this.  Oh and since they are always off and on, someone should definitely watch his personal life section then. 70.233.138.169 02:59, 19 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: JM&JS

message: In 2006, Martin announced the OMJM, John Mayer's second signature Martin Guitar.  Unlike the OM-28 John Mayer, the OMJM is not a limited edition model. I think it would be good to have this in the article, but I don't know how to edit it without disrupting the flow of that section. Daniel 226 13:37, 28 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Mayer's OMJM signature Martin guitar 

message: Somewhere in the article, it should be mentioned that Wait Until Tomorrow and Bold As Love are both Jimi Hendrix covers.  These songs are on Try! and Continuum respectively.  I'll look for a logical place for this information and post again if I update the page.
Swsnow 15:10, 3 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably the most logical place would be on the pages of the album articles.  In fact, I would guess it is already mentioned there.--Esprit15d (talk ¤ contribs) 14:26, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jimi Hendrix Covers 

message: "The blues influence can also be seen on his album Continuum, released in September 2006."
Shouldn't this be "heard on his album...", it being a music album? 195.95.172.250 10:55, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Seen or heard? 

message: I've removed "Grammy Award-winning".  The subject of the article is John Mayer, not his Grammy Awards.  The lead sentence is supposed to identify the subject of the article.  Mentioning Grammys there doesn't really identify him much (since his Grammys are not a fundamental topic of the article) and it casts him in a positive light.  ShadowHalo 02:47, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently someone added it again, and it has since been removed.  Adjectives of praise or critism should not be in the opening statement (eg.  DUI-convicted Nicole Richie, or Grammy-award winning actor Zach Braff, or accused-child-molester Michael Jackson, etc...).--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 18:28, 23 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Grammy Award]]-winning 

message: The wikipedia-article on the neuropsychological condition of Synaesthesia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaesthesia) names John Mayer as an example of a famous Synaesthete.
In the seperate article with the actual list of famous synaesthetes (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_people_with_synesthesia), he is only named in the 'proposed but still under review' section.
Does anyone has any reference to proof John Mayer does or does not have synaesthesia? This would be an important thing to mention in the article, and is of particular interest to me since I'm currently writing an article on synaesthesia in which I wish to name John Mayer as an example of a contemporary famous synaesthete, but cannot find any reference to this on the web.
212.204.155.128 14:01, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Synaesthesia 

message: Near the beginning of the article, it says John Mayer first got a guitar at age 13 when his father rented one.    Then later in "Career", it states "Mayer played the guitar for half a year before enrolling in the Berklee College of Music in Boston, Massachusetts, at the age of nineteen."   I don't know what the correct age is, but there's a significant difference between 13 and 18/19.   Sourgum 04:19, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You're right.  I checked out the sources cited for each claim, and the source for the "half a year" claim actually confirmed the "age 13" claim and said nothing about Mayer only playing for a half a year before Berklee.  Not sure when that got added in.  I've removed it.  —bbatsell ¿? ✍ 04:26, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Yesterday, the vandals had a field day.  I'm going to go through today and route out some of the insanity.--Esprit15d 12:46, 17 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradiction 

message: John Mayer has not officially endorse anybody.  He alway pulls gag conversations when he is in front of the papparazzi, and the night before his 30th birthday, he made a scene comparing Ron Paul to RuPaul.  I feel he was drunk.  Go here for the footage.--Esprit15d 13:05, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ron Paul

message: John Mayer incorporated in the state of Georgia under the name Portable John, Inc.  Here's the link to the filing with the state of Georgia.  Not really sure how this fact could be worked in but it's kind of funny.
http://corp.sos.state.ga.us/corp/soskb/Corp.asp?75064  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Andrewjoseph70 (talk • contribs) 17:57, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portable John, Inc 

message: I removed teh paragraph about the December 8 show.  The article is very long, John has probably done (just to my knowledge) probably 20 benefit concerts, and the individual ones are not very notable.  The notablity of any specific concert would be the only reason I would think it would merit inclusion in the article.--Esprit15d(۝ • ۞ • ▲) 13:24, 19 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Benefit concert

message: John Mayer born a female, can someone please explain.--Penelopekp (talk) 01:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: That's what's called vandalism. The false information was removed. --Cheeser1 (talk) 02:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Biograhpy 

message: "Central to Mayer's proposal is a mid-ranged approach to being ecologically aware: neither completely fearful nor completely ambivalent of global warming."
By what standard is his proposal "mid-ranged," and who says this?  Why are his ideas somewhat fearful and ambivalent, and what is meant by those words in this context?  This sentence is rather subjective and needs work.  I really don't know what the intention of the author was so I can't fix it myself.  My 2 cents are to just remove it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dwr12 (talk • contribs) 03:48, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: If there is no opposition, I will be removing the sentence then.Dwr12 (talk) 17:59, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: From what I am reading above, you have two misunderstandings (1) That a wikipedia editor interpreted his ideas and came up with this sentence and (2) that the sentence is saying that his ideas are fearful and ambivalent.  Actually, this sentence is a summary of his blog entry that says exactly this (I suggest you go read it, I added an archived link for you and anyone one else's convenience) and the sentence is saying that his idea is NOT fearful NOR ambivalent (in contrast with other global warning campaigns).  This is purely John's opinion of his own campaign, and I think the article makes it pretty clear that this is coming from his blog, this is his own personal project and his personal ideas.  If this were an ecological article, then his ideas would have to be substantiated, but this sentence is merely reporting one of his personal projects he's been working on the past year.  All is all, I reinstated the sentence, but improved teh reffing to make the source of the sentence a little clearer.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 13:13, 17 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: My "interpretation" of the fearful/ambivalent thing is due to a literal reading of the sentence.  If his ideas are not completely fearful/ambivalent, it does not mean that they are absolutely not fearful/ambivalent.  It is along the lines of this: if it is "not completely" cloudy today, there still can be some clouds in the sky.  As for the statement being a self-evaluation by Mayer, I strongly feel that this is not made clear.  What is clear is that the "proposal" is something out of his blog, but there is no indication that the evaluation of the proposal was done by Mayer himself in his blog.  I have edited the sentence to introduce more attribution to Mayer for these opinions of the proposal: "Mayer regards his proposal as a mid-ranged approach to being ecologically aware: neither fearful nor ambivalent about global warming."Dwr12 (talk) 02:17, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That rephrasing works fine to me :)--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 12:47, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  This sentence needs work (or should be removed) 

message: I just reverted a whole section in this article devoted to today's Perez Hilton "kissing" controversy.  I feel this is a significant event, thus notable, and so should be included in the article.  However, according to WP:WEIGHT, the amount of space devoted to a topic is also of importance.  Considering this is a one-day blip in the course of his career, two sentences are more than sufficient, especially considering his year-long relationship with Jessica Simpson (much more significant) is only seven sentences and his whole early career is only one section.  This little incident hardly merits its own section.  Also, since this is a featured article major re-writes and contentious additions should be discussed here first.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 18:34, 3 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree. And I restored your version when another user reverted your reversion; I think it is in keeping with WP:BLP policy. Paul Erik (talk)(contribs) 02:52, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Perez Hilton controversy

message: I removed the tour section.  It was full of redlinks, and added virtually no notable information (it read Summer 2007 tour, Fall 2007 tour, Winter 2008 tour, etc...)  The current touring section gives much more purposeful information about his tours to date.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 15:03, 15 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Tour section

message: Would someone like to add a humor section in this article regarding John Mayer's eccentric personality? I think this is appropriate to add since it is very much a part of his life. John Lennon has a section dedicated to his strange humor because it was such a notable part of his persona. It could perhaps talk about "John Mayer has a TV show" where John dressed up as a giant rat and interviewed unsuspecting fans, deliberately mispronouncing his name to anger the fans. Or his Esquire articles where he reviews his own album, giving it a B- and calling it somewhat 'creepy.' I would write the section myself but I don't really know that much about him. Perhaps you could also incorporate the "Portable John Inc." comment above. Discostu24000 (talk) 14:52, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: John dressed up as a bear, not a rat.  Anyway, some mention of his columns and stand-up is mentioned in the article, so there is evidence of his humor.  Any statements of his eccentricy is an opinion, and thus would have to be substantiated by ample third party sources.  I'm not opposed as long as it is done briefly (since this is not a large part of his fame) and substantiated correctly.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 12:53, 18 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Most of the time his "humor" seems to just be for his own benefit.  It comes off more like mental instability.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.181.253.68 (talk) 00:33, 13 December 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Humor 

message: "This is soon. I'll try to live up to it." is the quote, not "This is very, very fast, and I promise to catch up.". I remember him saying it!, plus it's on google.Numcrun (talk) 20:53, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually Google seems to be against you, not to mention the quote in the article is referenced. Googling your quote (in quotes) yields just this from RottenTomatoes. ~EdGl (talk) 04:11, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

text: Still if you search "This is very, very fast, and I promise to catch up." in quotes, you get far more results (all involving John Mayer at the Grammys). Perhaps he said both things? ~EdGl (talk) 14:19, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The quote he made at the Grammys is wrong 

message: Yay!  We hit 100 references on this article today.  Unfortunately, the 100th was the reference about his parents getting divorced :( --Esprit15d • talk • contribs 13:11, 29 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: 100 today

message: Under Awards, there is a line item that says Mayer received a Dundie Award.  A Dundie Award was a (totally fictional) award given out on the NBC show "The Office" to people who worked in the office.  (The character of Pam won for "Whitest Tennis Shoes," etc.)  I could be wrong, but I don't think the production staff of The Office actually gave out Dundie Awards at any point, although that is pretty damn funny.  Remove if necessary, I guess?  Affablehipster (talk) 07:41, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: He actually was sent a Dundie from the producers of The office for allowing them to use his song "Your body is a Wonderland" in their annual Dundie Awards episode.--Esprit15d • talk • contribs 14:43, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Awards 

message: Someone put the release date for Battle Studies as November 17, 2009. This is not right and they have no source. John Mayer has never said this nor has anyone else involved in the making of this album. I think the release should be changed back to TBD unless someone can find where the release date for this album was announced.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.161.25.114 (talk) 13:56, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: November 17?

message: Guitarist John Mayer will have to hand over $25,000 to charity, after losing a bet over his criminal record
Mayer bet editors at TMZ.com they couldn't track down a mug shot taken of him, following his arrest in 2001 for driving with a suspended licence.
He offered to donate the sum to a charity of site editor Harvey Levin's choice - and will have to dig deep after resourceful journalists tracked down the incriminating snap.
Mayer's money will go to an animal charity.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.173.119.61 (talk) 05:46, 31 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: TMZ Bet