Talk:Beit Shemesh

message: The article contains the following sentence:
"There are 567 immigrant settlers."
I have lived in Beit Shemesh for ten years, and I have no clue what this could be referring to.
I am removing this from Category:Wine regions. This is because it is not a region in the sense of the other ones (administrative areas with particular winemaking regulations). I thought about creating a category for villages which make wine, but these are almost infinite. Unless they have some legal significance (eg French appelations) I dont think they are important. I have put Cremisan into Category:Wineries however. Justinc 18:08, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Deleted the 'jpost' reference as it doesnt exist in webarchive nor in jpost.com nor do I, as an ever-resident of Bet Shemesh, ever heard of any friction between the sides. What are you people talking about, feeding on media lies?! Ridiculous. Bet Shemesh is very known for it's peacful nature and friendly population, at least to those actually who live in it. I should also state that using a non-existant link to a specific case of attack to dishonor the name of an entire, very unique, city, is shameful, as several 'stabbing/assult/whatever' by individuals does not make any city known for friction. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.93.255 (talk) 01:29, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Would people out ot BS stop commenting about the "friction" in BS please? Thank you, Ynhockey.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.93.255 (talk) 17:11, 27 March 2010 (UTC)

text: A well sourced information? Name a city's character by an archived (therefore deleted) article from a News website? Meaning, a website that lurks for controversy, admitted for being wrong, therefore deleted the article, and you're the one to claim otherwise? I will not tolerate such insults to my home-town, and will revert your ridicule.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.108.93.255 (talk) 07:05, 28 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Friction

message: * merge RBS is a neighbourhood of BS. BS is not such a big city that might require seperate articles for each neighbourhood. As it is, the BS article, except for the stats, is mainly refering to the RBS Haredi section. --Shuki 21:09, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: B&D, you do understand that your statements are admitted :WP:OR, and that you expect us to fall in line from what 'you' know as opposed to what might be consensus/policy. As for Jerusalem, or other major cities with split neighbourhood articles, if you can expand the main Beit Shemesh article extensive to the size and scope of the Jerusalem article, then I would might with you. Look at the nearby and almost identical :Modi'in article. Would it be valid to open a seperate article for Modi'in neighbourhoods? Scale up to larger Israeli cities and check :Rishon LeZion at triple the size - no need for seperate neighbourhood articles. --Shuki 13:26, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Do these neighborhoods of Modi'in also have 20,000 inhabitants and are they also demographically totally different from the rest of Modi'in? --Bear and Dragon 14:50, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  See my reply below. There are also other separate and unique neighborhoods in BS, other than RBS. Happy138 18:36, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you please name some of these neighborhoods, each of which are of course so well-known as RBS? --Bear and Dragon 23:35, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  merge Ramat Beit Shemesh and Beit Shemesh 

message: I propose the following discussion points:
1. Beit Shemesh is better translated as "temple of the sun", not "home of the sun". The same is true about Bet-El, Bet-Dagan (dagon)and Beit Horon. All these were canaanite temple sites.
2. Shemesh was not a sun-goddess, but a sun-god, as is correctly stated in the link provided.
Hficher 16:16, 16 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sun godess? 

message: I am more than familiar with the conflicts being raised. However, the edits that have been added to the article to describe the issue are in clear violation of Wikipedia policy requiring a neutral point of view. These edits need to be drastically reworded and properly sourced before they can be reinserted. Even ignoring the typo, describing someone as being "attacked by a group of hooligan Chardim" is blatant POV and is unacceptable in any Wikipedia article. Alansohn (talk) 13:19, 27 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The content you are adding is plainly not NPOV.  None of it is. I would fix the wording myself but I don't have access to the news articles you cite.  I would suggest that you just leave it be, or request help at WikiProject Israel, where presumably an experienced editor will have access to the articles and be able to determine their encyclopedic value and/or modify the text to be in accord with policy.  Someguy1221 (talk) 01:25, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I think that the issue is much less POV, and more WP:OR, and misunderstanding of WP as seen with the poor editing by the anon with a suspected WP:POINT. Anon, please don't simply reinsert your edit. Instead, hone up on the WP guidelines and perhaps suggest an alternative wording here on the discussion page. --Shuki (talk) 21:34, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Inter-religious conflict

message: Hi. I think this article is getting very close to GA status. In terms of content, I think we are almost there, but the referencing is what definetely would hold this back in a nomination. If anyone is willing to help work on this, it'd be great. Flymeoutofhere (talk) 11:46, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Almost all of the statistical information can be attributed to this source (or if not, it should be updated to this source's data, which is so far the latest). -- Ynhockey (Talk) 19:14, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: This article is not anywhere near GA status.--Gilabrand (talk) 17:36, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree, there's a lot of information missing, too few citations, and the formatting is bad. But it's better than most of the articles about Israeli cities, so there's already something to work with. I can provide the Ariel Encyclopedia (1976) article on Beit Shemesh to anyone who is interested. -- Ynhockey (Talk) 23:19, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  GA 

message: I have recently come across the article Tamuz (kibbutz), which appears to be a single building, or a complex at the most, with no notability whatsoever. The article can be merged into this one by copy/pasting just one line, so I will do it if there is no opposition. —Ynhockey (Talk) 14:04, 28 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Merger of the article Tamuz

message: If it's officially Bet, the article name should be Bet. Happy138 (talk) 19:56, 30 June 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: No. —Ynhockey (Talk) 12:18, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text:  Why? in today's Hebrew the i is not heard. Happy138 (talk) 13:10, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a complete different argument. However, I disagree with this one too; I believe that most modern Hebrew speakers do pronounce the letter. Moreover, even if some do not, omitting the letter is extremely uncommon in English renderings of Hebrew words (not just place names). For instance, English-language media in Israel (The Jerusalem Post, Ynetnews and Haarez English) use "Beit" exclusively, including in the case of Beit Shemesh. —Ynhockey (Talk) 15:17, 2 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Beit or Bet 

message: This section is problematic.  'In all layers from this period, the bones of animals were all of kosher animals, in contrast to nearby ancient fortresses and settlements of that period such as Maresha, Azekah or Lachish, suggesting an early Jewish settlement and advanced kingdom in the early biblical "kings" period.'  There is no reference or supporting evidence.  Even if there were it is hard to see how the absence of non kosher animal bones says anything about an 'advanced kingdom in the early biblical kings period'. This is pure POV, and likely to be OR.  I intend to reword this section as follows.   In all layers from this period, the bones of animals were all of kosher animals, in contrast to nearby ancient fortresses and settlements of that period such as Maresha, Azekah or Lachish, suggesting an early Israelite settlement.Dalai lama ding dong (talk) 12:43, 30 December 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: the source says that the dietary findings could indicate Israelite Cannanite or Philistine inhabitants, so I will update the proposed change above to include this.Dalai lama ding dong (talk) 21:11, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Claims for evidence of 'advanced kingdom' 

message: The article specifically lists the violence in Beit Shemesh as a precipitating factor for the advisory.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.165.122.186 (talk) 15:19, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: That might be true, but the advisory was not to Bet Shemesh. Happy138 (talk) 20:30, 12 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: US State Department Travel Advisory

message: Hello. I tried to clean up a bit and moved the controversies to the end, which I think is more logical. If I have removed something important, it was unintentional, but I have removed what was either unsourced or not pertinent to the issue, with the exeption of the above mentioned US travel advisory, which concerns Jerusalem, not Bet Shemesh. Would those who think that the controversies-section is unbalanced please state what they think is unbalanced, maybe we can get it so that the tag can be removed. Ajnem (talk) 15:49, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Good question. Ajnem (talk) 15:39, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: POV-tag

message: Please make suggestions for the heading of the section that is now called Gender issues and inter-communal tensions. Thanks, Ajnem (talk) 15:39, 5 August 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Heading wanted 

message: "In the Amarna letters Shamash is mentioned several times, along with Addu, as one of the greatest gods: the Pharaoh is "like Addu and Shamash"."
1. Is Shamash related to Shapash and/or Shemesh? If not, this doesn't belong here.
2. This clearly relates to a deity, NOT the city. Does it belong here? Arminden (talk) 12:25, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Amarna letters - not related to the topic? 

message: "File:Beit Shemesh.jpg|Position at Beit Shemesh fortified by Harel Brigade during Operation Ha-Har"
This is an old tower - Crusader? Mamluk? Ottoman? - and none is mentioned in the History paragraph. Is it really at Beit Shemesh? Arminden (talk) 12:58, 26 November 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Historical tower on 1948 photograph 

message: The section about RBS Alef especially needs to be revised, it reads more like a guidebook than an encyclopedic article. Also, “beautiful cacophony” – does that make any sense? Elendil 03 (talk) 06:12, 28 April 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Writing style 

message: An editor has identified a potential problem with the redirect :Beit Shemesh Engines Ltd. and has thus listed it for discussion. This discussion will occur at Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion/Log/2022 January 6#Beit Shemesh Engines Ltd. until a consensus is reached, and readers of this page are welcome to contribute to the discussion.  BilCat (talk) 04:04, 6 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Beit Shemesh Engines Ltd." listed at [[Wikipedia:Redirects for discussion|Redirects for discussion]] 

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Participate in the deletion discussion at the nomination page. —Community Tech bot (talk) 12:21, 23 January 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  A Commons file used on this page or its Wikidata item has been nominated for deletion 

message: I was told that you can only add people to the Notable page section if they have an article already about that. I believe that article is up and coming as his live is quite notable. But in the meantime I believe he should be on that list. He is more known throught the word than a bunch of the previous entries into that list. Please feel free to comment if you agree and if you  state where you are from that might help make our point as to the extent of his reach. Avigdorfuld (talk) 17:15, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: definitely!! 130.43.174.225 (talk) 17:17, 15 March 2023 (UTC)

text: 💯 2A10:8012:17:B14C:5D4F:536A:6BBD:C7DB (talk) 17:40, 15 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Adding Eli Stefansky to the Notable Persons section.