Talk:Air (video game)/Archive 2

message: The all caps have been lowered as per Naruto and Bleach (manga).
(game) has become (video game) as "game" is not specific enough. Altough I'm considering that maybe it should be (visual novel) instead.--SeizureDog 20:25, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I believe (video game) is sufficient enough.--Juhachi 20:36, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed then. Btw, check out the audio samples I just loaded up. It's such an obvious plagiarism >< --SeizureDog 21:48, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I just checked them; you're right about how obvious it was. >_<--Juhachi 22:40, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Since no one disputes that they are the same, "obviousness" has no bearing on the case, and only lends credence to the story that the so-called plagiarists believed they were under license. Bustter 05:50, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Hmm? What do YOU think? :) --Cat out 09:17, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I feel this article should be about air in general not about any of the spesific 'product' (game/Anime/movie etc) much like Oh My Goddess! which is a general overview of the series running for over a decade now. --Cat out 09:23, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

text: My only qualm with the renaming is that it changes how I was going to go about splitting the articles up. I was going to leave it at (video game), let it be a full article, and have something along the lines of an "Adaptations" section with main article links to the others. But I'm fine with it being at series if we want to go the OMG route. --SeizureDog 13:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Renaming

message: Being bold is one thing, but you could have at least posted something here beforehand...In any case, I can bet SeizureDog will have something to say about this since I don't think the title is wiki-accurate, but we'll see what he says.--Juhachi 08:31, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmm? What do YOU think? :) --Cat out 09:17, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

text: I feel this article should be about air in general not about any of the spesific 'product' (game/Anime/movie etc) much like Oh My Goddess! which is a general overview of the series running for over a decade now. --Cat out 09:23, 15 June 2006 (UTC)

text: My only qualm with the renaming is that it changes how I was going to go about splitting the articles up. I was going to leave it at (video game), let it be a full article, and have something along the lines of an "Adaptations" section with main article links to the others. But I'm fine with it being at series if we want to go the OMG route. --SeizureDog 13:16, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: (video game) to (series)

message: I propose merging all under one big list. Like Oh My Goddess! Soundtracks --Cat out 08:37, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Personally, I just hate it, hate it, hate it when CDs, movies, or games get merged into the same article (Worms (computer game) really bugs me for example). But I guess it doesn't really matter too much as we're not really going to find much information to compliment them with. However, I'm pretty certain that Air also has an audio drama series. I haven't been able to find much on this, but I don't think that would need to be in the same section once the information is present. In short, go ahead and make Air an OMG clone :P --SeizureDog 13:30, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Kay. However I'll need some asistance with kanji/romaji titles of all those songs... --Cat out 15:12, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge soundtracks

message: What do you think of such a merger? --Cat out 15:37, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I think either is fine. I created :Category:Air images because that is how many other articles have dealt with image categorization. They become a subcategory of :Category:Animanga images and so it depends if you want to expand that category as a global category for anime and manga images. There are a few articles that don't do it currently and there is no guideline. --Squilibob 10:35, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge [[:Category:Air images]] with [[:Category:Air]]

message: I see the reason for the recent change in character sequencing, but placing Misuzu behind Hijiri and Haruko and other comparatively minor characters is pretty much an insult to the lead female protagonist of the game/anime/movie/manga. _dk 01:27, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unless you want to remove the pic of Misuzu, it has to be this way. Either that or the pic is aligned to the left of the screen...Okay, I edited it. Is that better?--Juhachi 02:46, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Better, thanks. _dk 04:40, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Character placement

message: I'm not doubting it, but I have yet to see anything on the matter in my searches. Link pls?--SeizureDog 02:57, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I was wondering about that as well since I have never come across any news of a manga...--Juhachi 03:03, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Unlike many other anime, air started out as a hentai game... later became an all person game etc etc... I am suprised that there was ever a manga. --Cat out 08:00, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Where did the date Oct 8th come from?  The manga started its run in the September issue, which came out on Aug 10th.  Searching for a verifiable link...--Mikeats 13:39, 13 June 2006 (UTC)

text: Blah, a link was right in front of me.  The link that Juhachi provided was to the October issue.  Check the September issue Comtiq.com.  Release date shows 8-gatsu 10-nichi.  Ah!  I now realize where the Oct 8th came from.  You got the month and day reversed - gatsu is month, and nichi is day.--Mikeats 13:51, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Manga?

message: I dont think we can talk about cast for characters who only made camo apearances on the movie... --Cat out 23:55, 16 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, Hikaru Midorikawa did the voicing for Yukito for the movie and the game, not Ono. The format now is too complicated for me to fix that. _dk 03:24, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Done. --Cat out 20:40, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Movie cast

message: I have created a straw poll in hopes of quickly resolving the dispute over List of Air episodes. Talk:List of Air episodes#Straw poll for which episode table to use. I strongly encourage everyone to share their opinion and vote. -- Ned Scott 03:24, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's great, and should we have another one about the character articles? _dk 05:12, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe, that or an AFD process. -- Ned Scott 06:27, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That will abuse the deletion process for your own amusement. I will recreate them if they get deleted as comple articles, one by one. If they stay, I will expand them to complete articles. If deleted, that will only cost me time. --Cat out 18:49, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It's not an abuse of the deletion process. If you wish to recreate deleted articles then that could warrant an edit block. Besides, in such a case it would be more likely that merge would be the decision, allowing for splits to come as needed. -- Ned Scott 19:15, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Category:Manga and anime characters by series Would you mind if I included in the draft of that deletion all stub characters in this category?   --Kunzite 00:21, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Actually, no, I would not mind at all. I think it is much healthier for article growth, keeping track of information, and so on to follow a path of: main article -> split to list of characters when character section is too big -> split characters as sections grow.  However, I do understand that stubs are not always bad, and there are many times when it's obvious that a stub article will grow eventually. I don't think it's so obvious for Air, and I think people tend to fill things out for the sake of filling things out, often resulting in fancruft. But even then, this process in no way limits the information one can write about a character. It does not limit the potential for a character to get their own article. On the other hand, when you have a large group of stub articles then the reader has to hop to several articles to get a small amount of information, which doesn't help anyone.  And lastly, if a character has their own article or not does not, by any means, make that a less or more important character. -- Ned Scott 05:44, 23 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Of course. I've made the list.  Not all of the articles are stubs.  Not all of the categories were considered. Should this start in the wikiproject or... elsewhere? --Kunzite 01:49, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Straw Poll for List of Air episodes 

message: Is anyone else really doubtful that User:Neaco is actually the one that took that picture? His profile says that he's a native speaker of English and that picture he other picture he claims to have taken, :Image:Summer Sky.jpg, looks very American PLUS is taken with an entirely different camera. I don't think that Neaco is Japanese and I think the image was just taken off the web. Therefore I have removed it.--SeizureDog 20:36, 25 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You can bring it up at copyright desk, but I do not see a real issue with copyrights unless you can find the images on the web... :/ --Cat out 13:13, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Here it is. _dk 22:37, 11 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Yeah, kinda neglected the link as its in the article so I figured everyone would already have seen it. --SeizureDog 02:25, 13 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[:Image:Airrealshrine.jpg]]

message: Just to let everyone know, I've nominated Recap episode (Air episode) for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Recap episode (Air episode). You can see my reasons and give discussion there. -- Ned Scott 06:35, 11 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Recap episode article up for deletion 

message: Maybe the lawsuit blurb can be summarised in about two or three sentences instead. Now that the issue has been settled, it's not very controversial or newsworthy anymore.—Tokek 15:46, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Either way, it doesn't belong on the page about the series as a whole.  There's a separate page for the sountracks; if the lawsuit story belongs anywhere, it belongs on the sountrack page.--Tally Solleni 00:19, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I disagree. It's very important that the information is mentioned on the main page. No one really expects for the soundtrack page to have much information beyond track listing, so leaving it off the main page would cause for most readers to miss that information entirely. --SeizureDog 17:22, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shorten the lawsuit blurb? 

message: I know, I know. I've heard the Naruto and Bleach argument. But honestly, I don't think it applies here. You may have seen another rule... the one that says that the most common name must be used? I've never seen Naruto called NARUTO, so to me, that's just how the logo looks. But people call AIR "AIR" more than "Air". Of course, a Google search, the most common way to settle this, wouldn't work...Sana Jisushi 22:04, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not really quite sure what started the whole trend of all cap names, but it's really stupid if you think about it. Nearly ALL titles are stylized in all caps. For instance, we don't have a STAR WARS article even though that's how it's shown in the title :Image:Star Wars Logo.svg. --SeizureDog 23:48, 7 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree with SeizureDog; there's no reason to have it in all caps. Considering a large amount of Japanese media titles, when written with English titles, are in caps is most likely because of the 52 characters we have in our Alphabet (upper and lower case), I think the upper case is tought first or otherwise it's much easier to recognize the upper case letters with Japanese-natives than are the lower case letters, or maybe it's just because ALL CAPS seems to stand out more. Whatever the reason, it has no bearing in Wikipedia, and I am against this topic, or subsequent topics, being written in all caps.--(十八|talk) 00:13, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I was going to bring that up too but didn't. Simply put, how the Japanese use English really has no bearing on how we should use it.--SeizureDog 05:53, 8 December 2006 (UTC)

text: You don't seem to get it. You seem to have read the title and responded, not seen I've never seen Naruto called NARUTO, so to me, that's just how the logo looks. But people call AIR "AIR" more than "Air".Sana Jisushi 00:40, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's only because the longer a title a gets, the more unnatural it feels to put in all caps. Air, at 3 letters, is especially easy to call AIR due to many acronyms being the same length. I'll also point out that ANN spells it Air.--SeizureDog 05:50, 9 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: People say SHUFFLE! too, and that's as long as Naruto or Bleach. (Sadly, that's been de-capitalized too...) Sana Jisushi 04:19, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never seen someone type Shuffle! as SHUFFLE!.. I don't doubt that some people do... but why? It's normal for titles to be in all caps in a logo, but that doesn't mean that's how it's supposed to be written. -- Ned Scott 05:36, 18 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bring back the All Caps! 

message: So I was bored and decided to make a userbox for fans of Air:
--(十八|talk) 08:20, 8 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Userbox