Talk:Ghalib

message: The deletion of content that removed copyvio material has removed material I wrote myself and therefore could not have been a copy vio. What happened?
IFaqeer 01:54, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It was a copyvio from . It was a copyvio right from the date of old creation, i.e. 10 March, 2004. While you had worked on the later revisions of the older article, the text had not changed substantially. Also, the poliy here has been to delete the article if it impinges on copyrights right from the first edit. If you had written the content on the above URL, you will have to make a claim to that effect on that URL and release it through GDFL. Hope that clarifies the matters you have raised. --Gurubrahma 06:57, 9 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyvio

message: I believe the verse given is 147.3 from his Divan. A transliteration might be given:
dast gāh-e dīdah-e ḳhūñ bār-e majnūñ dekhna
yek biyābāñ jalvah-e gul farś-e pā andāz hai
Is the translation given copyrighted? It is verbatim to this site. I'm sure anyone with a basic knowledge of Urdu could try to paraphrase, I might, but am afraid of not doing him justice.
A better, though brief, biography is at [ghalib.org] for future reference. Isn't the translation of ġhālib 'triumphant as well? I'm not sure on this as it probably has much more significance like Hafez, etc. In any case, the Urdu "Shakespeare" is in need of a more comprehensive article. Khiradtalk 01:43, 12 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Verse, life

message: The last section of the article is very messy, and I suggest we use one poem only and have it arranged in the Original, Transliteration, and Translation subsections.  Can anyone provide a poem, its transliteration, and its translation for me to use? (and I will modify the transliteration see Talk:Urdu )
Basawala 20:40, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have deleted the section because it was too messy.  I will try to add a different example of his work, so suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks. Mar de Sin Speak up! 18:37, 9 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Example of Ghalib's work 

message: in the article it says
He is considered to be the most dominating poet of the region since Kalidas.
who was kalidas ? any links ?
--digitalSurgeon 23:48, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  who is kalidas ? 

message: Wikified as part of the Wikification wikiproject! Corrected a few section entries. JubalHarshaw 17:44, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikified

message: What is actual date of birth of Mirza Ghalib 27 December 1796 or 27 December 1797 as both are mentioned in the article. --Pritam nks 23:45, 13 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Amendments Please: Why is this article categorized under "1796 Births"? It should come under "1797 Births".Amit Munje (talk) 14:19, 6 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mirza Ghalib's Date of Birth 

message: Note:  Project Banner with Delhi workgroup parameters was added to this article talk page because the article falls under :Category:Delhi or its subcategories. Should you feel this addition is inappropriate , please undo my changes and update/remove the relavent categories to the article -- Amartyabag  TALK2ME 02:37, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[WP:INDIA]] Banner/Delhi Addition 

message: The section on "Ghalib in fiction" says that the movie on Ghalib made on the Government of Pakistan commission is "regarded a masterpiece", and then claims that apart from a few private viewings, has never been released by the government. I believe that this needs to be clarified: who regards it as a masterpiece if it has never been publicly viewed? Maybe somebody knowledgeable on the subject should confirm whether the film receive sufficient critical appreciation to be regarded a masterpiece, and how this fits in with the fact that it was never publicly released.
203.200.95.130 (talk) 13:38, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Film on Ghalib 

message: Was Ghalib a Sufi poet, as the category indicates? The article nowhere mentions this. --ReluctantPhilosopher (talk) 18:15, 31 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sufi? 

message: Note for justification of removing some external links. The link 
*  Devnagiri script for Urdu mooted; Mirza Ghalib’s Urdu language criticized for complexities - TCN News  
is unrelated and does not shed light on Ghalib. The following link do not have any poetry related to Ghalib.
*Asadullah Ghalib - Selected ghazals in Urdu Font- Mirza Asadullah Khan Ghalib - selected poems in Urdu font
This link does not work
*Poems of Mirza Ghalib - Selected poems of Mirza Ghalib in picture-based original Urdu script. Text-based InPage files can also be downloaded.
IrfanAli04 (talk) 15:21, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cleaning up external links 

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thread_title: File:Mirza Ghalib.jpg Nominated for Deletion

message: May I stress that the word الأسد  which Ghalib used as one of his pennames is in fact of Arabic origin and not, as indicated, of a Persian one. Albeit the word may be used in literary Persian, the Persian word for lion is شیر.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 149.217.72.1 (talk) 16:01, 17 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the word الأسد 

message: The section "Mirza Ghalib and Sir Syed Ahmed Khan" seems to be taken almost verbatim from one of its sources (Shamsur Rahman Faruqi's talk).  This probably violates Wikipedia's copying policy.
Also, the translation of a poem offered by Mirza Ghalib as a foreword to Ghalib's book need not be included here in its entirety, because:
#It's far too long;
#The point could be made with a short extract; and
#It's surely a copyvio.
Rather than hastily remove the entire section, it would be better if somebody edited it to include a précis of that reference.  I have no particular expertise on this topic, nor much time free right now.  So please feel free to improve this section if you can.  yoyo (talk) 14:47, 17 December 2017 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyvio - Shamsur Rahman Faruqi's talk 

message: That means "Adnan Yasin" in Urdu. I don't see how that name is related to Ghalib at all..
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:c8:4003:b761:ac60:8ae2:e146:8c4  (talk • contribs) 01:43, 22 July 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Urdu Text (عدنان یاسین) Under English "Ghalib" (right above picture)

message: Can we have the List only of his literary work?
Like the filmography of Actors and Actresses. 49.205.243.66 (talk) 11:45, 14 June 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of his work from Prose to Poetry and Letters 

message: For the interested. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 14:23, 20 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Reliable_sources/Noticeboard#WP:EW_on_a_"Further_reading"_item]] 

message: There's an IP user that's continuously removing a legit scholarly book about Ghalib, entitled, Ghalib aur Alwar, authored by Dr Mushtaq Tijarwi, and published by Ghalib Institute. The IP claims that the book is unreliable and so is its author. I seek a consensus, and till then the article shall remain in its original earlier version. Regards, ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 19:02, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: So, Why you believe Tijarwi as a  reliable source, who is that non notable and unknown author? How your insertion of his book as an  external link will help this project?  103.84.193.228 (talk) 19:17, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
replies: text:  This has not been as an external link but as a further reading. I regard this book as a scholarly resource that's authored by a reliable scholar and professor, and is published by a well known research academy based in India. That said, now allow the community to discuss this and don't be adamant and don't keep on removing this before this discussion ends. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 19:24, 24 April 2022 (UTC)

text: Per  and WP:Further reading seems fine to me. Nothing says an author in the Further reading  section (or the ref section) has to be WP:N. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 20:41, 24 April 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tijarwi's work on Ghalib 

message: In 2009, Kader Khan visited Kuwait for the event "Shaam-e-Ghalib" to explain the poems of Mirza Ghalib which is loved and appreciated by the audience around the globe. Mir Zishan (talk) 07:20, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Kader Khan? I could see that video added as a WP:EL, if it was in English or texted in English, but since it's not, I don't see it as very useful on en-WP. Per Khan's WP-article, it's not obvious he can be used as a WP:RS. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 07:59, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur with what @Gråbergs Gråa Sång said. Though the insights from Khan might be useful but he is not an authority in Urdu/Persian language and literature, or a literary critic, and this makes him not very much helpful in this case. If this event is covered in reliable sources, a sentence or so about this might be covered somewhere on the article. ─ The Aafī on Mobile (talk) 14:39, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe, but my default assumption is that that would fail WP:PROPORTION. Gråbergs Gråa Sång (talk) 15:36, 11 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 11 May 2023 

message: The article suggests that he was born in the Maratha Empire. Our article on Agha where he was born says it was under Maratha control by the late 18th-century. The Mughal Empire was very limited by that time, and it seems Agra was not in any meaningful way under Mughal control at the time of his birth.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:38, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Additionally our article on the Mughal Empire says that from 1760 onward it de factor ruled only the area around Old Delhi. So it appears not only was Ghalib not born in the Mughal Empire, but was born 25 plus years after its control ended where he was born.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:41, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: The article on the Conquered and Ceded Provinces gives us indication that in about 1805 the area of Agra is tranferred from the control of the Maratha Empire to the British at the end of one of the Anglo Maratha Wars. That is when Ghalib was about 8. It looks like he maybe does not belong in any categories for oolitical units he was a subject of only as a young child. We do not put people birn in 1982 in Soviet categories or those born in 1910 in Russian Empire categories. It appears that the ehole Mughal Empire is de facto under British control from 1805 on, so I am not sure why we have a 19th-century Mughal Empire people category at all.John Pack Lambert (talk) 02:50, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I think the status of Agra, Delhi, etc. is unclear and I wouldn't rely on our Maratha Empire article because it is very poorly sourced. While the Marathas did overrun large chunks of north India, they never actually built an empire and most territories continued to be ruled by local rulers or by the Mughal empire. (Note, also, that the Maratha Empire article is now retitled Maratha Confederacy which more accurately reflects its status.) RegentsPark (comment) 16:15, 23 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where was he born