Wikipedia talk:WikiProject California/Southern California task force/Archive 1

message: For renaming the cities and neighborhoods in San Diego County, it may be useful to create a worksheet similar to the one that I've started to work on for Los Angeles County. To see what I've been able to create so far, see User:BlankVerse/Sandbox. If anyone knows more about creating tables than I do, you can see the last table on Districts and neighborhoods of Los Angeles needs some more work. BlankVerse ∅ 09:46, 14 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: If anyone is interested, I've updated the worksheet to cover some of the cities in the South Bay, Los Angeles-area. Almost all of the South Bay city articles that I looked at are barely stubs if you eliminate the User:Rambot-added Geography and Census section. BlankVerse ∅ 15:56, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Los Angeles County worksheet 

message: Most of you have probably noticed the "Open Talk" infobox that is up at the top right of the page next to the Table of Contents. I've borrowed the idea from the Utah WikiProject so you can look at their page to see how they are using it. Right now the SoCal version only has some categories listed but no articles. I am wondering if we should just start filling that page up, or should be try to find some sort of consensus on which SoCal articles either need the most attention, or are the most important articles to work on. To the right is a copy of the same To do list. BlankVerse ∅ 15:29, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  The SoCal WikiProject To do list 

message: The  category (:Category:California-related stubs) is becoming quite large (~450 articles), and I keep finding SoCal city and community articles that should have the geo-stub template that don't, so I've suggested over at the Stub-sorting WikiProject that one or more new geo-stubs should be created for California. Right now the consensus seems to be for creating just one new stub (), which would leave the California-geo-stub on Northern California and state-wide articles. You can join the discussion at Wikipedia:WikiProject Stub sorting/Criteria#Southern and Northern California geo-stubs. BlankVerse ∅ 15:56, 29 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Stubs

message: I'm not sure what to do with this info, but I found a list of the 327 tallest building in the LA area here. BlankVerse ∅ 12:15, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm sure it will come in handy.  Add it to the External resources section on the main page, if you havn't already. JesseW 19:00, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There's been talk about identifying the different buildings in the LA skyline in the Los Angeles article, so perhaps that info would be useful there. Theshibboleth 11:50, 18 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  LA Skyscrapers 

message: I'm going out to the John Anson Ford Theater, up near the Hollywood Bowl, in a little while, and I wondered if anyone knew of which pictures might be needed up around there... I'll go get on IRC, (as JesseW) so you can respond here or there... JesseW 15:47, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'm off. JesseW 16:23, 27 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  John Anson Ford Theater - pictures needed? 

message: So yea... the power outage just now... where should we post about it? Make a new page, add it to Los Angeles or what? -- NatsukiGirl\talk 22:16, 12 September 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I know that. I didn;t make the outage page that got made... but I asked this question before it was explained what exactly happened... it could have been a big thing. But now it's old meme. So whatev. -- NatsukiGirl\talk 03:47, 13 September 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Los Angeles Power Outage... just now

message: Hello, Jimbo Wales will be in San Diego to attend OOPSLA and has agreed to come by and visit with the San Diego wikipedians.  If you are interested, you will find more info on my talk page. Johntex\talk 00:54, 13 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Jimbo Wales to Attend San Diego [[Meetup]] on [[October 18]] 2005

message: I've added images of the Ennis-Brown House in Los Feliz. It was a little overcast today, but feel free to remove that article from the requested photos list if the images are adequate. Mike Dillon 02:43, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Very nice.  Thanks for doing that! JesseW, the juggling janitor 18:29, 17 October 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It is indeed good work! --Siva1979Talk to me 09:00, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Ennis-Brown House]] 

message: This IP/user has made a few edits today to articles on LA .  Some of them look unencyclopaedic, but I'm unqualified to judge.  Perhaps someone would like to go through his/her contribs? - mholland 05:37, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Some of 's edits looked okay. For example Area code 562. I am wondering where they got the information for those edits, because it it much more detailed than anything I was able to find on the internet. On the other hand, the edit to South Bay, Los Angeles used a much narrower defintion that I've ever seen used for the South Bay, so I basically reverted that edit. I am now going through each edit to see if there are any more problems. Thank you for the heads up. BlankVerse 11:09, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks.  The editor sounds like a local, perhaps a bit POV. - mholland 11:49, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Someone who knows the City of Los Angeles much better than me will have to check some of these edits: Beverlywood, Los Angeles, California , South Robertson, Los Angeles, California , Beverlywood, Los Angeles, California , Crestview, Los Angeles, California, West Los Angeles (region)  (note the removal of Baldwin Hills and Ladera Heights!), and Westside Village, Los Angeles, California. BlankVerse 12:06, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  User 70.33.74.35 

message: IMHO :Category:Los Angeles, California is confusingly misnamed. It looks like it should be for only the City of Los Angeles, California, but the description says that it is for the Greater Los Angeles area. I think that this category should be renamed to something like :Category:Los Angeles area or :Category:Greater Los Angeles area, and then put under :Category:Metropolitan areas of the United States (see :Category:San Francisco Bay Area for another California example). BlankVerse 12:01, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I agree about the problem. I can't suggest a better solution.  -Willmcw 20:44, 24 November 2005 (UTC)

text: I also agree. My preference for an areal category is :Category:Greater Los Angeles Area (since the main article is Greater Los Angeles Area). Mike Dillon 21:11, 24 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Los Angeles, California - Ambiguous/misnamed? 

message: There is a discussion at Talk:Los Angeles, California on moving the Los Angeles, California article to Los Angeles. This issue needs more input from Southern Californians. BlankVerse 12:29, 6 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Los Angeles, California page move discussion 

message: has been nominated for deletion by User:SPUI. Plase join in the relevant discussion at Wikipedia:Templates for deletion/Log/2006 March 13#Template:PD-CAGov. BlankVerse 13:40, 13 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[template:PD-CAGov]] 

message: Hello. I'm a member of the Version 1.0 Editorial Team, which is looking to identify quality articles in Wikipedia for future publication on CD or paper. We recently began assessing articles using these criteria, and we are are asking for your help. As you are most aware of the issues surrounding your focus area, we are wondering if you could provide us with a list of the articles that fall within the scope of your WikiProject, and that are either featured, A-class, B-class, or Good articles, with no POV or copyright problems. Do you have any recommendations? If you do, please post your suggestions at the listing of all active Places WikiProjects, and if you have any questions, ask me in the Work Via WikiProjects talk page or directly in my talk page. Thanks a lot! Titoxd(?!? - help us) 18:45, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team|Wikipedia:Version 1.0 Editorial Team]] cooperation 

message: Hi everyone,
Santa Barbara Wikimeetup April 8, time and place TBD.  Angela will be in town for a conference.  I'll almost certainly be able to attend.  Antandrus  (talk) 16:25, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Wikimeetup Santa Barbara (short notice)

message: User:Rockero is currently nominated for adminship by User:Will Beback at Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Rockero. Quite frankly, I think that he's getting a raw deal from some of the oppose votes. I hope that all of those editors who are familar with his fine edits on Southern California and Hispanic-related topics will join in to support his nomination. BlankVerse 04:12, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I supported him and now he is an admin as well. --Siva1979Talk to me 08:59, 9 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia:Requests for adminship/Rockero 

message: Many articles covered by this WikiProject lack photographs. As part of a subcategorization of the requested photos category, there is now a category for California articles needing photos - to use it, just add  to the article's talk page. I have only added a few articles to the category so far, but it would be an easy way to make an extensive list California-related articles lacking photos. I hope you find it useful! TheGrappler 05:19, 23 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[:Category:Wikipedia requested photographs in California]]

message: I drive up and down the Huntington Beach/Newport Beach coastline five days a week from Seal Beach to Newport Beach. I was wondering what people had in mind for this photo project.  What pictures are needed/wanted?
Epolk 03:54, 28 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Huntington Beach/Newport Beach coastline Photo Project 

message: The Balboa Island article is sorely lacking in sources. If anyone is interested in taking a crack at it, have at it. Also, the current photo is probably not OK for Wikipedia to use, judging by the license statement on its description page, so I added  to the talk page. Mike Dillon 06:20, 16 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The uploader did get permission before the drop dead date, so it's okay...for now.  My attempt to CSD it failed, so I've put a fairusereplace on it. Perhaps I could go out there to get a free shot... Hbdragon88 21:32, 19 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Balboa Island, Newport Beach, California]] 

message: There is a proposal for a 3rd LA-area meetup at Philippe's on Saturday, 24 June 2006. If you are interested in another meetup, please visit the proposal and comment on the date and location. BlankVerse 08:23, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  New LA-area Wikipedia meetup? 

message: There is a new poll on naming communities within cities at Wikipedia:Communities strawpoll. Since many of the communities that have had article naming disputes are located in Southern California (including Hollywood, La Jolla, and Anaheim Hills) the participants in the Southern California WikiProject should add their votes and comments to the discussion so that hopefully there will be a clear consensus and that will then stop most of the interminable debates on this issue. BlankVerse 11:27, 21 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia:Communities strawpoll 

message: It looks like Serge, who is unhappy with the current naming standard for cities, has embarked on a city-by-city effort of renaming them, starting with Chicago, and now continueing with San Francisco. My personal opinion is that the current system works fine, but you may have other opinions. Please visit Talk:San Francisco, California and register your opinion. There is also a more general survey on naming cities at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements). BlankVerse 22:09, 24 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed move, San Francisco, California -> San Francisco 

message: For the reasons that I stated at Template talk:Los Angeles USD, Template: has been nominated for deletion. The template is already huge and ugly. Imagine it populated with all 1,035 LAUSD schools. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. BlankVerse 20:35, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  TfD nomination of Template:{{ucfirst:Los Angeles USD}} 

message: There is a low-scale revert war going on over the RMS Queen Mary right now, mostly over the inclusion/deletion of a couple of external links. Could some of the other Southern California editors put this article on their Watch lists until this edit war blows over? I don't have the time to check things tonight, but it looks like at least one of the editors has violated WP:3RR. BlankVerse 10:03, 18 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: RMS Queen Mary

message: Portal:California has recently been created, but it needs some filling out to turn it into a full-fledged Portal. BlankVerse 07:28, 20 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Portal:California 

message: The Cerritos, California article is also the subject of revert war right now, with an editor repeated deleting a section with negative information on former Cerritos councilwoman Grace Hu who is now running in a California Assembly race. It looks like California may be next on the list of reports about politicians and/or their supporters editing on the Wikipedia. ;-) Could other Southern California editors help watch over the article? BlankVerse 08:45, 21 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Cerritos, California 

message: I have proposed renaming :Category:Streets in Los Angeles, California to :Category:Streets in Los Angeles County, California at Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 October 3#Category:Streets in Los Angeles, California. If you have any opinions on this renaming, please contribute to the discussion.
The organization of categories for California, and especially for the LA area is a mess, so I am thinking of trying to set a goal of at least one renaming a week, along with the occasional group reorganization. BlankVerse 01:46, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:   Category:Streets in Los Angeles, California 

message: Only 2 1/2 months after the last failed requested move, and after the failure of a bunch of other requested moved at San Francisco, New Orleans, and other cities, there is yet another request to move the article on the City of Los Angeles from Los Angeles, California to Los Angeles. I have emphatically stated my position. I think it is imperative that every editor involved in this project also express their opinion on this requested move. This is at least the third attempt to move the article. BlankVerse 12:30, 16 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move: Los Angeles, California to Los Angeles 

message: Hello. The WikiProject Council has recently updated the Wikipedia:WikiProject Council/Directory.  This new directory includes a variety of categories and subcategories which will, with luck, potentially draw new members to the projects who are interested in those specific subjects. Please review the directory and make any changes to the entries for your project that you see fit. There is also a directory of portals, at User:B2T2/Portal, listing all the existing portals. Feel free to add any of them to the portals or comments section of your entries in the directory. The three columns regarding assessment, peer review, and collaboration are included in the directory for both the use of the projects themselves and for that of others. Having such departments will allow a project to more quickly and easily identify its most important articles and its articles in greatest need of improvement. If you have not already done so, please consider whether your project would benefit from having departments which deal in these matters. It is my hope that all the changes to the directory can be finished by the first of next month. Please feel free to make any changes you see fit to the entries for your project before then. If you should have any questions regarding this matter, please do not hesitate to contact me. Thank you.   B2T2 18:57, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Project directory 

message: Anyone want to take a shot at updating the examples at Wikipedia:WikiProject Southern California/Assessment#Importance scale? Currently that section just has the stock examples from the Saints project or some such.
Also, I set the importance for Southern California to "Top" in both  and . Mike Dillon 18:02, 18 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Assessment importance examples 

message: Having failed at other requested moves, including Los Angeles, California and San Francisco, California, and not gaining any consensus with a mass change in the naming convention for US Cities, the same group of editors is back proposing changing individual cities. The latest example is Talk:Anaheim, California#Requested move. Please go to that section and express your opinions on this latest proposed page move. BlankVerse 10:27, 24 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move: Anaheim, California -> Anaheim 

message: There is a low-scale revert war going on over the Griffith Observatory observatory between two fairly new editors. I'll be putting warnings on theor talk pages, but if it continues, it may be best to put a short block on the page.
After the youtube videos, there also seems to be a low-scale edit war over Los Angeles Police Department. This article should probably be watched a little close, but of the potential for random page editors to cause things to escalate. BlankVerse 15:25, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Articles to watch 

message: The California Gold Rush article has been nominated for Featured article status. To go directly to the Featured article candidate page for the Calif Gold Rush article, go to this page: Wikipedia:Featured article candidates/California Gold Rush. BlankVerse 08:19, 3 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  FA nomination for [[California Gold Rush]] 

message: Panavision has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.
  
Sandy (Talk) 21:14, 6 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Panavision FAR

message: List of Los Angeles street gangs has been nominated for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/List of Los Angeles street gangs. I've already expressed my opinion, but other editors familar with Southern California should also add their two centavos to the discussion. BlankVerse 19:17, 11 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The consensus in the discussion was deletion of List of Los Angeles street gangs, which was then protected against recreation. One suggestion that was made, because of the numerous problems with the gang list (violations of verifiability, original research, etc.), was to write, instead, a well-referenced article, probably titled Gang activity in Southern California. BlankVerse 13:09, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Los Angeles street gangs 

message: I wsa bold and used parser functions to bring together the functionality of  and  under the single template .  The first two have just been nominated for deletion.  However, the three-station one suffers from some issues with color; see Union Station.  The first box of the third line uses the same color as the second line; i.e. the third line on the Gold Line has both the purple and gold colors.  I don't know how to fix this - could someone who knows more pitch in? Hbdragon88 05:52, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Fixed. Nice work. Mike Dillon 06:50, 20 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Template:LACMTA Station]] 

message: Hello, all. It was initially my hope to try to have this done as part of Esperanza's proposal for an appreciation week to end on Wikipedia Day, January 15. However, several people have once again proposed the entirety of Esperanza for deletion, so that might not work. It was the intention of the Appreciation Week proposal to set aside a given time when the various individuals who have made significant, valuable contributions to the encyclopedia would be recognized and honored. I believe that, with some effort, this could still be done. My proposal is to, with luck, try to organize the various WikiProjects and other entities of wikipedia to take part in a larger celebrartion of its contributors to take place in January, probably beginning January 15, 2007. I have created yet another new subpage for myself (a weakness of mine, I'm afraid) at User talk:Badbilltucker/Appreciation Week where I would greatly appreciate any indications from the members of this project as to whether and how they might be willing and/or able to assist in recognizing the contributions of our editors. Thank you for your attention.  Badbilltucker 22:06, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wikipedia Day Awards 

message: Hi, I was hoping that any of you guys in the L.A. area would be able to get and image or something which could go in David Beckham move to Los Angeles Galaxy. If you can help, please reply on the talk page of that article. Thanks!--HamedogTalk|@ 09:03, 13 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Image for [[David Beckham move to Los Angeles Galaxy]] 

message: See Talk:Inland Empire (California)#Merge suggestion: Pomona Valley into Inland Empire. An editor has proposed merging the Pomona Valley article into the Inland Empire article. It would help is some more Southern California editors weighed in on this proposal. BlankVerse 09:36, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Merge suggestion at Inland Empire

message: Recently there has been both WikiProject San Francisco and WikiProject San Francisco Bay Area created. Now there is a proposal to merge both projects into the Bay Area version. If you want to contribute your two cents to the discussion, please see Poll: Merge WikiProject San Francisco into WikiProject San Francisco Bay Area?. BlankVerse 09:36, 23 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: New Cal WikiProjects

message: Ridge Route has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here.
SandyGeorgia (Talk) 02:28, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Ridge Route FAR

message: Please see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Culture of California 1800s to mid 1900s. This deletion discussion would benefit from the input of some more editors familiar with California. BlankVerse 03:16, 26 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  AFD: Culture of California 1800s to mid 1900s 

message: I've just revamped two SoCal articles, Mike Feuer and Not Yet New York.  It'd be nice if I could get some comments, suggestions, or what-have-you. I'd be most curious about people's considerations of my reference handling. (I know I didn't use the templates, I didn't feel like it; I'd be obliged if someone felt like fixing them up to use the templates.) JesseW, the juggling janitor 07:37, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Two articles for review 

message: Once again there is a proposal to change the Wikipedia's long standing naming convention for US Cities.
There has been a small, but very vocal, and very persistent group of editors who have been trying, without much success, to overturn the "city, state" naming convention for US cities. First they tried at the naming convention level, but failed to achieve consensus for their views. They then changed tactics and tried to change the titles for several US cities, including three failed attempts to move Los Angeles, California, and one each for San Francisco, California and Anaheim, California. The only city that I know where they succeeded (after a couple of different surveys) was Chicago, but even that city has recently been moved back to Chicago, Illinois. 
Now there is a revival of a fairly recent proposal to have the article titles for a small number of cities violate the very long-standing "city, state" naming convention. The discussion and voting are currently going on at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements)#Associated Press. Since the past debates have ended up involving a large amount of time for California editors, I hope that they will weigh in on this latest proposal. BlankVerse 11:16, 27 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed change to the naming conventions for US cities 

message: Sandy Koufax has been nominated for a featured article review. Articles are typically reviewed for two weeks. Please leave your comments and help us to return the article to featured quality. If concerns are not addressed during the review period, articles are moved onto the Featured Article Removal Candidates list for a further period, where editors may declare "Keep" or "Remove" the article from featured status. The instructions for the review process are here. Reviewers' concerns are here. LuciferMorgan 22:06, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Sandy Koufax FAR

message: California Gold Rush will be the Main Page Featured article  at midnight UTC, February 14, 2007. please be on watch for vandalism and nonsense edits. BlankVerse 15:17, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  California Gold Rush - Main page Featured article at midnight UTC, February 14, 2007.