Talk:List of Spanish words of Germanic origin

message: *These words are grouped by the source language, even though many of
them entered Spanish from an intermediary (example: albergue is
ultimately from Germanic, but entered Spanish by way of [[Provençal
language|Old Provencal]]).  Names of ancient tribes, names of
languages, and words denoting a person's ethnic group or
nationality are included.  Words not included, among others, are
personal names, place names, names of mountains, rivers,
cities, etc. as the list would become too expansive and there
are other lists which can cover these lexical items.  Many of these
words have related forms (estampar and estampada) which are not
included here unless, for various reasons, their relationship to each
other is not obvious.  Many of these words also contain Latinate
affixes (example: in "alcantarilla," -illa is a [[dimunutive
suffix]]) and components but have at least one component from another
language (example: béisbol).  Latin contained many words of [[Ancient
Greek]] by the the time the Romans became involved in
Iberia and those words are not included here except when 1. they were
introduced to Spanish through a language other than Latin (example:
albaricoque is from Ancient Greek but enter Spansih through Arabic) or
2. the word is attested in Greek, but is thought to stem from some
other language (example: celta).  Words which derived from attested
Latin words are only included when 1. The Latin word is known to
derive from another language except Ancient Greek (example: barca) 2.
The Latin word is thought to have dervied from another language
(example: batir).  The Greek and Latin words will be grouped under
"uncertain derivation."   Some of the words grouped under "uncertain
derivation" are documented, but are examples of
onomatopoeic creations which can't be definitively
attributed to a particular region or timeframe.--Hraefen 15:40, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Inclusion criteria etc.

message: *There are often competing theories for word origins.  If you know of
a competing theory, feel free to add information about this alternate
theory after the word and add your reference to the list of
references, but do not remove this word from this list because it is
sourced.  Rather, follow the procedure stated above, and then add the
word to "List of Spanish words of X origin." (along with
reference)--Hraefen 15:40, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Other theories

message: *Definitions are currently not given, but they will be. Some of these
words may need to be subdivided into languages within a language
family.  I will be doing both of these tasks as soon as I can get to
it.--Hraefen 15:40, 16 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Defintions, subdivision, etc.

message: *This Germanic diminutive suffix -ken, -kin, -chen etc. is included in the Middle Dutch section (maniquí) to illustrate that this suffux, in its various forms, is present in North, West, and East Germanic languages as well as this Spanish word.  Please do not remove it without giving a reason.-Hraefen 20:18, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: -chen

message: This page is full of bad links. Wikipedia is not a dictionary. It is nearly always inappropriate to link to common words, and doing so all too often leads to a disambiguation page (which is not a dictionary either, and should never be linked to). Either don't link common words, or link to Wiktionary with the wikt: tag.--Srleffler 05:20, 28 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bad links 

message: Probably a greater number of the words is wrongly attributed. At least, those in the upper part. (I'm no linguist and won't examine the origin of the words, only mention some examples)
- barón: Where does "barón" mean "male"? That's "varón". In fact, "barón" also exists - meaning "baron". 
- dalia, sandwich, wagneriano ... "Napoleonian" is a romance word? buganvill(i)a: Mr Bougainville has Germanic roots?
- "luna de miel": "luna" isn't Germanic. "miel" ?? (Not too improbable that the expression developed from "honeymoon". Would that make it a word of Germanic origin? Furthermore, one should examine if "honeymoon" isn't derived itself - maybe from French "lune de la miel")
- bulevar= "boulevard". That looks strange since boulevard is obviously French. However, "boulevard" has Germanic roots.
- "guagua" = bus:  I know "guagua"=baby from Chile. The dictionary tells me that "guagua" is used on the Antilles and Canarian Islands as "bus". Is that "car-car"?
There are also words which I suspect to be English words of Spanish or Romance origin. Finally, I hope that this list expands and becomes really useful one day.
PS: "kuchen" is definitively missing (from German "Kuchen", XIXth century?)
de:Waifar 84.178.71.35 15:36, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of Words 

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