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Talk:Java logging framework

message: The summary paragraphs on log4j and Java Logging make it appear that log4j should be used just because it is more popular, but log4j is more popular because it has been in existence longer. Rewriting these two paragraphs would improve the neutrality.
LanceHelsten (talk) 18:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text:  I could do a when/where, but it would be opinion.
* Log4J: works on older Java versions (not so relevant), really good loggers, good configuration by in-classpath files and API.
* Commons-Logging. Not a real logger, just a wrapper around 3 logging APIs, one of which (avalon logkit) is obsolete and never encountered in the wild. By adopting commons-logging in a library, you give whoever uses the app their own choice of what to use behind it. 
* Java Logging API. built in to the JVM. Hard to configure -external files only. Not easily changed on the fly. No useful output formats. 
* SL4J. Switch logging by using different libraries.
* printing to standard output channels directly. Useful when logging hasn't even been bootstrapped yet. SteveLoughran (talk) 13:06, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: From the comparison between the talk page and current section text, I believe an editor forgot to remove the NPOV tag, so I did. --  Alain  R 3 4 5 Techno-Wiki-Geek  00:26, 7 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: NPOV

message: AFAIK this article should describe
Logging Frameworks (log4j, Java SDK Logger, Logback) and Logging Wrappers (Commons Logging and SLF4J) and clearly separate them. 
Logging Frameworks simplyfi application development by eliminating the popular System.out() usage with a meaningfull API and a configurable and extendable backend to output the Log entries to the console, files or even databases.
Logging Wrapper help application and library developers to provide logging independant from the chosen logging framework. 
It would also help to at least mention the discussion around commons logging and classloaders, like this reference:
Spring Framework reference 3.0 Chapter 1.3.2.1 Not using commons logging
"Unfortunately, the runtime discovery algorithm in commons-logging, while convenient for the end-user, is problematic. If we could turn back the clock and start Spring now as a new project it would use a different logging dependency." []
--178.24.246.195 (talk) 22:44, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  categories, popularity and commons logging
Talk:Income bracket

message: A lot of advocacy about minimum wage laws focuses on the "inability" of Americans to earn a decent living in the lowest income bracket.
Advocates of increasing the minimum wage want the lowest legally allowable wages set high enough to serve as a "living wage".
Opponents of an increases ofter argue that most people who ever earn a minimum wage do not stay in the lowest income bracket for long. For them, their first job is an entry-level position, and as they gain experience they are able to command higher wages. 
Question for other contributors: How can we right about this, without adopting either a pro or con position? Is there a way to describe the arguments for and against minimum wage laws (and proposals for a higher minimum) - without the article taking sides? --Uncle Ed (talk) 18:21, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
Talk:Philipsburg, Sint Maarten

message: No, Juliana International Airport's 7300-foot runway is not unusually short (it's almost a mile and a half long), and aircraft do not have to fly unusually low. And the aircraft are probably at an altidute of about 100 feet over Maho Beach. Simply repeating uncited claims from tourist brochures and barroom lore doesn't belong here. I am deleting it.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 199.21.136.70 (talk) 06:58, 15 February 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Maho 

message: Hey Santa 68.170.238.64 (talk) 01:43, 25 December 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hey santa
Talk:Margaret Dunning

message: Please don't delete this article. I am in the process of creating it and had to go to work this morning. This page is for a graduate history class at Eastern Michigan University. I have sources and more information that I will be adding, I just ran out of time this morning.Kelleysjunque (talk) 18:28, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for adding the sources; that will help this article's chances of being kept a lot.  The deletion discussion process usually takes several days (sometimes up to a week when it's a difficult decision), so feel free to check in from time to time and see what people are having to say. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 22:23, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The stated source/ note is this: Linda Ann Chomin, "Phoenix Mill exhibit evokes memories for local women," Hometownlife.com, May 24, 2009.
You can find this article in a PDF of that newspaper here on page 15. Maybe the link could be included in the notes section.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sh0ck v4lu3 (talk • contribs) 09:35, 3 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Found a PDF version of the article that is used as note 7 in the wikipedia article. 

message: In 1910 when she was born there was a town in Michigan named Redford. This place would be annexed into Detroit sometime before 1927 but after 1910. There was also a township in Michigan, which included the town of Redford, called Redford. In 1910 this stretched a whole 6 miles by 6 miles. Over half of it would be annexed into Detroit by 1927. So it is very likely that where Dunning was born is now in Detroit, and our link to the charter township is probably misleading people as to where Dunning was born.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:38, 15 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth place
Talk:Works of John Cage

message: This page used to have some unsourced information (given by a user who never re-appeared on Wikipedia after his/her first edits, which were to this article) on the first five pieces from Sonatas and Interludes, and a short biography of John Cage. The biography is covered in greater detail at John Cage, whereas the Sonatas and Interludes is covered in its own article now, with proper citations and references. Because this article only had the first five pieces covered and did not provide any references for the information, and the original contributor is no longer active on Wikipedia, I decided that merging this article into Sonatas and Interludes is not possible — not unless we want Sonatas and Interludes to feature an incomplete unreferenced section on individual works of the cycle — and instead made the page into a useful redirect to List of compositions by John Cage. Before making the edit, I asked for suggestions, but received no comments. See Talk:John Cage and User_talk:Somitho#John_Cage. Jashiin (talk) 18:31, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: This page is now a redirect
Talk:Korps landelijke politiediensten

message: This Unit is one of the highest trained and best in the world.
For Dutch (Netherlands) Special Intervention Team -> SAYS WHO!? No source, hard to measure.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 85.147.137.77 (talk) 15:29, 30 October 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  This Unit is one of the highest trained and best in the world. 
Talk:Dutch royal house

message: This page could really use a family tree! 99.247.228.104 (talk) 05:11, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Diagram 

message: Hi, I have a vintage pram with the Dutch royal emblem on , and I think it belongs back in the Dutch royal museum.
My number is 07507990021
Email- Jenwilkinson25@gmail.com
I have photos for you to see
Thank you 
Jennifer 86.9.159.228 (talk) 06:27, 19 August 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Vintage royal pram
Talk:Gisborne Girls' High School

message: There has not been a discussion page associated with this page so I am starting one here.
I am user gghs and I am Webmaster of the Gisborne Girls High School website.  I have already made a few minor edits on the page in the interests of accuracy or clarity.
:Please see WP:COI for the conflict of interest guideline. XLerate (talk) 03:24, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: Since the article has been changed from Gisborne Girls' High School to Gisborne Girls High School throughout, should the article be moved to Gisborne Girls High School? The reference in the Education Gazette uses the name with the apostrophe, but this may be a misspelling of the correct name. Coyets (talk) 18:54, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Gisborne Girls High School without apostrophe
Talk:Elvis (miniseries)

message: Prior content in this article duplicated one or more previously published sources. The material was copied from: http://emol.org/music/artists/presley/elviscbs/interview.html http://emol.org/music/artists/presley/elviscbs/synopsis.html. Infringing material has been rewritten or removed and must not be restored, unless it is duly released under a compatible license. (For more information, please see "using copyrighted works from others" if you are not the copyright holder of this material, or "donating copyrighted materials" if you are.) For legal reasons, we cannot accept copyrighted text or images borrowed from other web sites or published material; such additions will be deleted. Contributors may use copyrighted publications as a source of information, but not as a source of sentences or phrases. Accordingly, the material may be rewritten, but only if it does not infringe on the copyright of the original or plagiarize from that source. Please see our guideline on non-free text for how to properly implement limited quotations of copyrighted text. Wikipedia takes copyright violations very seriously, and persistent violators will be blocked from editing. While we appreciate contributions, we must require all contributors to understand and comply with these policies. Thank you.  Moonriddengirl (talk) 11:41, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Copyright problem removed
Talk:FBI files on Elvis Presley

message: I have removed the following unsourced paragraph:
:Paternity Suit
:In March 1971 while on tour in Tulsa, Elvis had sexual relations with a member of the audience. In November of that year a son, Jason Petty was born. At that time DNA testing did not exist, however Elvis agreed to establish a trust fund of $2,000,000 payable when Jason turned 24 years old. It was decided this choice was best, in order to avoid any embarrassment to any parties involved.
Such a story is not mentioned in Thomas Fensch's book on the FBI files. Onefortyone (talk) 01:53, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: This talk section should examine J. Edgar Hoover's possible role in the drafting of Presley. Mydogtrouble (talk) 01:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orchestration of the Drafting of Elvis Presley into the Army 

message: Is this accurate?  As of 2012, the FBI has documents archived on CDROM?  Seems a bit out of date.  UselessToRemain (talk) 18:27, 6 November 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  "archived today on CD-ROM"
Talk:Garfagnana

message: This page could use some rewriting; it sounds like an advertisement for the region.  Note esp. the part about asking locals about the cuisine.
Kit1066 (talk) 18:45, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: [Untitled]
Talk:SSS islands

message: Is there a source for this article? Or is it OR? Laurel Lodged (talk) 10:18, 16 September 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment SSS islands is an example of bad English grammar. If these three islands are collectively known as the SSS Islands, then the word becomes a Proper Noun, proper nouns should always be capitalized. The same can be said for the ABC Islands and the BES Islands. Xindeho (talk) 09:45, 4 May 2020 (UTC)

text: The first reference  mentions the term "SSS Islands". Yodo9000 (talk) 18:23, 6 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who refers to them as the "SSS islands"?
Talk:Diving bell

message: "Such problems occur at a pressure over two atmospheres, experienced below a depth of 20 metres (32 feet)." - Which is it, 32 feet or 20 meters? 20 meters is 66 feet. -Riedquat (talk) 19:00, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The above statement is factually incorrect, as most diving tables and algorithms allow for planning at shallower depth, as the buildup of inert gases in the tissues is independant of the planning procedure and is directly related to depth and time of exposure. See Decompression (diving). For depths of 6m or less there may not be a no-decompression limit. This means that a saturated diver could safely ascend from that depth without decompressing (see US Navy Air decompression tables) Peter (Southwood) (talk): 07:04, 28 October 2011 (UTC)

text: Dive tables usually allow planning in multiples of 3 metres (10 feet). Bühlmann tables, for example, provide for a no-deco limit of 130 min at 9 metres. Apart from an anecdotal report of a diver employed to clean fish farms, who suffered a bend after multiple ascents from 6 metres, there is very little evidence that diving to 6 metres or shallower incurs any measurable risk of DCS. --RexxS (talk) 00:32, 12 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Depth problems

message: something that might want to be included:
Date     	Data	Occupants                            	Bell	Record                   	Notes
July 1964	    	Jon Morrow Lindbergh & Robert Stenuit	    	deepest diving from depth	Spent 49 hours at depth, swimming in and out, setting diving bell depth record. St. Joseph News-Press, "Young Lindbergh Is Pioneer In Underwater Exploration", Associated Press, 6 March 1966, pp.10C (accessed 25 March 2012)
70.24.244.198 (talk) 08:11, 31 March 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: records

message: Hi, Diving bell editors! I've added this as a see-also in order to be able to take an 'orphan' tag off a DYK on today's main page. I don't know enough about either subject to know where it would be more appropriately inserted, and I'm hoping someone here will be excited to discover this new article, which seems to certainly be worth mentioning in the Diving bell article. --valereee (talk) 12:18, 14 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  [[Air Lock Diving-Bell Plant]] 

message: — Assignment last updated by DiscoverWiki1110 (talk) 16:30, 4 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title: Wiki Education assignment: Introduction to Information Studies
Talk:Cognitive Constraints on Compositional Systems

message: Typical page on wikipedia that I'll have to save in my own computer because someone will come and put a lot of pseudo-skeptic-enciclopaedic questioning and then delete it. :D nihil (talk) 19:02, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: To be fair, this article is basically nothing but a summary of one paper by Lerdahl; might as well read the original. Masily box (talk) 03:16, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
Talk:Maryland wine

message: The below section needs to be rewritten to where it is not a word for word copy vio from its "source". AgneCheese/Wine 19:27, 17 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyvio

message: It's somewhat illogical to start an article with a statement of the first winery opening in 1945 and then stating that the state’s history of viticulture began in 1648. Perhaps 1945 refers to first post-prohibition winery or first commercial or large-scale winery, but then please write so. Tomas e (talk) 10:19, 19 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  History 

message: Some of the content in the Maryland Wine Festival article is from the merged perma-stub Maryland Wine Festival. AgneCheese/Wine 20:00, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Attribution note

message: The summary template says "Year Established 1788". It then says "Years of wine industry 17th century - present". First, 1788 is in the 18th century, not the 17th. Second, under the "History" topic in the main article it says that viticulture began with winemaking in 1648. So it would appear that the state's winemaking history needs to be cleaned up so that it is consistent. Also, the first sentence in the "History" block says: "The state’s history of viticulture begins in 1648 with the earliest recorded instance of winemaking in Maryland." However, technically speaking viticulture (the growing of grapes) and winemaking are not the same thing and could have happened at different times. Since the source page only talks about winemaking, this sentence should probably be rewritten. Mjzwick (talk) 18:36, 20 January 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  History in "Maryland (wine region)" Summary Template 
Talk:Norman Lewis (artist)

message: Bearian (talk) 19:17, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: There should be some sort of standard about how we designate artists ethnicity/nationality/Origins. According to APA guidelines if you disignate one person's race/nationality you should do it across the board. Norman Lewis cant be "an African-American Artist...." if Edward Hopper is just "a prominent American realist painter and printmaker..." 
160.111.254.17 (talk) 17:50, 15 August 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure what this comment was specifically in reference too, it needed more development/details. Seeing that it is an open source project, sometimes there are variances. It's not uncommon to feature a person's ethnicity in the intro on Wikipedia. If you look at MOS:LEAD, it mentions that it should give the basics in the lead statement and since race and ethnicity played a role throughout Lewis' life (and that did not happen for Edward Hopper) it makes sense it would be added only for Lewis and not Hopper. I am happy to discuss this further here, if anyone is interested. Jooojay (talk) 02:04, 10 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Artist ethnicity/nationality/origin 

message: I wonder how this term has not found its place in this wiki. Norman's whole life went into the depiction of black resistance in his art. No wonder, it took years for people to recognize and appreciate his art. I would like the interest and inputs of Black Art Historians on this matter.  
Chinmay  (talk) 06:28, 21 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Abstract Resistance
Talk:Mermerus and Pheres

message: I found the following by googling
http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/QuestionsAnswers.html
"Mermerus, Pheres, Medeus/Medus, Eriopis, and Alcimenes. See http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/Medea.html. Prof. Jerker Blomqvist"
and
http://homepage.mac.com/cparada/GML/Isidore.html 
"Medus, son of Aegius, built Media, and from it his country of Media took its name."
Aegius is Aegeus 1. Apollodorus 1.9.28, Hyginus (Fabulae 26) and others say approximately the same. The mother of Medus is Medea. Hesiod,, however, says that Medus was son of Jason and Medea [Theogony 1001]. "A king of renown" has also been mentioned as Medus' father [Dio.4.55.7; Strab.11.13.10], but as such may be regarded Aegeus 1. Medus died fighting against the Indians [Apd.1.9.28]. Hesiod and Pausanias 2.3.9 call him Medeus. Pausanias adds that Hellanicus called him Polyxenus, and that Medea "coming to the land then called Aria ... caused its inhabitants to be named after her Medes." [2.3.8.]
Shouldn't these be added in here? and how?Undead Herle King (talk) 18:29, 13 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: More children on the web
Talk:Le Journal de Montréal

message: The last line of the introduction reads "Le Journal does well because it consistently nails the zeitgeist of Quebec profond: defensively nationalist, excessively proud and self-consciously wary of political elites." This is a direct quote of the linked source, which seems to be a magazine opinion article.
In particular, "excessively proud" implies some political judgment. The French version of this article does not have a similar sentence. It does contain a sentence toward the end: "Unlike its main competitors, its tone is more populist. It stands out as well for its sensationalist and undercover investigations." Should we maybe change it to this?  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Assouplir (talk • contribs) 19:45, 19 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction Tone/Bias
Talk:Chris Randall (musician)

message: I proposed that the Positron! article be merged into this one, as Randall/SMG releases appear to be most of its output. Chubbles (talk) 19:15, 19 June 2019 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't think it should be merged. If you check the artist page at their site, there are quite a few other bands and musicians listed there. Plenty enough to show it's not just Randall's vanity label. —<B>Torchiest</B> talkedits 02:19, 7 January 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: Closing, given no support and uncontested objection. Klbrain (talk) 21:06, 16 April 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Merge
Talk:Brendan Kelly (bishop)

message: The copyvio bot appears to be in error. Bearian (talk) 19:29, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled
Talk:Anne Graham Lotz

message: This entry needs the sources properly attributed. Deriobamba (talk) 18:34, 11 October 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sources? 

message: Hello. Was this article written by someone who dislikes Anne Graham? I stumbled upon this link while reading about another person and I noticed it has negative undertones. Given that I didn't know she existed until 2 minutes ago, it felt critical and castigating. One example would be this excerpt: 
Lotz "became" a Christian at the age of about eight years old after having been indoctrinated by her parents for years and watching The King of Kings, a Cecil B. DeMille film, on Good Friday.
Became is the correct wording for someone who chooses to be a Christian. If used in any other way, these quotation marks add doubt and uncertainty. Why is the article writer uncertain about that?
The use of the word indoctrinated also has a negative connotation. Anything we learn as children can be considered indoctrination, from how we pull our socks to how we do our hair. This word seems inappropriate, nicer alternatives are "taught" or "instructed".
Few things are worse than a biased Wikipedia article. We don't have to like any of these people or topics. SeleneMarie (talk) 20:17, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: This was simple vandalism, which wasn't caught (it was done in February) but has now been reverted. StAnselm (talk) 21:14, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Connotations 

message: In the Early Life section it says she married Dr. Daniel Lotz on September 9, 1966. Under Death of Spouse, it says "Lotz's husband, Daniel Lotz, 78, died on August 19, 2015. He was discovered unresponsive in their backyard swimming pool two days before their 49th anniversary." The dates do not match up as two days apart - it's closer to 3 weeks. Spiritcapsule (talk) 03:46, 24 May 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discrepency
Talk:WMLC

message: Per the WP:Disambig page, "If only a primary topic and one other topic require disambiguation, then disambiguation links are sufficient, and a disambiguation page is unnecessary." Since the radio station call letters are the primary identification and the acronym for a format for efficient transmission of WML web pages is a secondary identification, a hat note is sufficient and requires no more steps than would a disambiguation page for people seeking the format. - Dravecky (talk) 09:25, 8 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Rationale for deletion of disambiguation page
Talk:Dutch Church, Austin Friars

message: I just removed a section on the dutch community because it didn't mention the church at all.  But if there's something verifiable to write about how the Church and the Dutch community relate, for example, how the community built or supported the Church, how the Church stabalized or anchored the community, I think that could be excellent content. -- SiobhanHansa 19:31, 28 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Dutch Community
Talk:James Lucas Scott

message: I'm confused. Why does it say Dan's heart was eaten by a dog? Is someone trying to be funny? Could someone who has a better knowledge of the events of season 6 correct this please?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.86.42.125 (talk) 17:27, 2 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Eaten By A Dog 

message: Jamie's birthdate was not June 13, 2007. It was June 13, 2005, because they graduated in 2005 because Season 1 & 2 are one year while 3 & 4 are also one year. So whoever put 2007 clearly is wrong.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.234.115.84 (talk) 13:10, 6 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  June 13, 2007