Talk:Pope Benedict XVI/Archive 9

message: Sorry folks about the archive. The page was about 118 kb, and needed to be archived. I don't really have time to create subject-specific archives now, but if anyone wants to, feel free. Thanks, Bratschetalk random 03:23, May 10, 2005 (UTC)
When you can , please  can you make one for the Question of the Law , as it keeps recurring ,  called Pope Question. What is really  needed  is  to refer links to the plethora of more thorough questioning and commentary  on the actual  article page  but  I do not wish a revert war at that level ......hence all discussions are lengthy  only to overcome  POV resistance . Of course  ,I deny that I am POV . The wikipedia actually cannot contain the disperse information  on the edge  and everywhere  and  non-POV /POV link inclusion would save all the proving, disproving . The wikipedia  needs  to provide the directory to elsewhere with a balanced advisory guide  as to the various POV  but it is rather an uphill struggle , Cerberus the hound seems to have the doors covered  always .  Discussion  is perhaps educative but , more   tedious  and combative  as it gets more  controversial between POV and  POV . Certainly with archiving it warrants even less effort so the greatest  interval  possible is required .Flamekeeper 22:07, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Archive 

message: I can't see where this is discussed, but the Vatican website (German section) spells his name as "Joseph" . Kind regards, jguk 09:27, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The vatican calls him "Joseph" and a google search indicates that "Joseph" is how it's spelled on Geramn sites as well. Jeltz talk 12:52, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

text: But this CNN article notes that the car registration says "Josef Kardinal Ratzinger" VViki 05:36, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Is that how he wrote his name, or just the way some random car registry bureaucrat wrote his name? The CNN article doesn't say. Uppland 06:04, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I have often seen "Joseph" - "Joseph" can be a proper German spelling. john k 07:44, 16 May 2005 (UTC)

text: Well, I am of Austrian origin, and I can assure you, that a) both spellings are correct and b) the bearer of the name (or of course his parents) determines which spelling in his case is used - thus, in official documents, media reports etc. those two versions cannot be interchanged arbitrarily. Ratzinger's birth certificate shows Joseph. IMHO it is clear that in German Joseph is the right spelling in Ratzinger's case. Gugganij 13:03, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: May I ask how you came to access his birth certificate? VViki 11:26, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: There is a copy of his birth certificate which is shown in the museum of local history in Markl am Inn (a village close to the Austrian border). Gugganij 12:57, 17 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Josef or Joseph 

message: I've listed this page on Wikipedia:Requests for comment. The issues being discussed on the page have been, if I'm not mistaken, debated several times since this man has become Pope. 青い(Aoi) 09:02, 16 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Request for Comment 

message: It goes so quickly it's just a blur. Just a thought maybe a slower video would work or something else? --Contrib 19:07, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blessing video of pope. 

message: Surely we can find a better picture of Pope Benedict that that truly dreadful one currently being used. It really is appallingly bad. FearÉIREANN(talk) 22:36, 13 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Just like with the last photo I put on here, this one is not that great. I am hoping I get some PD/Fairuse photos soon, but I do not think it will come for a while. I am not going to pay the Vatican for any photo, so we are kinda stuck, in my POV. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 22:40, 13 May 2005 (UTC)

text: Well, the last one we used before this one also came from Vatican.va, which also still has the goldish background. I know others complained about that. Man, I am about ready to go to Wikipedia:Requested_pictures and put in a request of PD/GDFL pictures of the Holy Father. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 23:15, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The infobox photo was replaced by a photo that was used later on in the article. The photo is also copyrighted by the Associated Press. Is that legal for us to use? Zscout370 (Sound Off) 23:32, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Infobox picture 

message: QWhat the hell are you doing pope. Are you going to portend you're predecessor is more hearchycal than even mother theresa. WOW!!! Who will be here when mother theresa dies. HUH! Already the german pope fucked up! According to the good st. Malachy...what the fuck u doing little worm nobody. Is HE gonna have to kick the pope out of Rome. HUH!!! Who hath come to hiss...
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Family planning, and God created woman to be Man's companion. Got the picture?!  
Don't make me get into this dead predessor. No wonder all the chatholics are leaving the church. You a perverted abomination...HUH!!! Little nobody pope. son of a bitchssssss (Comment was made by IP 68.253.117.209).
:I take it the Pope is answering the calls of the Faithful, who wanted JP II to become a Saint. I know the process will be long and hard, but I hope it makes it through. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 23:56, 14 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Also, though I don't know why I'm even commenting on this...JP II waived the waiting period on Mother Theresa, too.--MikeJ9919 03:52, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: And there were other popes that probably did that too, but we just never heard about. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 15:03, 15 May 2005 (UTC)

text: What does hearchycal mean? 66.238.96.241 06:41, 18 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  shame on the power trip speeding cannonization 

message: Should there not be some discussion of the objections held by many to Ratzinger's history and politics, and of the fact that he was a Hitler Youth?  Exploding Boy 00:22, May 15, 2005 (UTC)
:I think those were discussed earlier, I would check the archives. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 00:34, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You might see some opposition in the Theology section. If some sections get to long, we break things up. I know there is opposition to the Holy Father and I think we should document it. However, I just do not know where. Zscout370 (Sound Off) 14:57, 15 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: On anti-Ratzinger sentiments