Talk:10 Hronia Mazi

message: omg!! i thought that despina vandi's succes would never decline!! but it was once again prooved tha nothing is for sure! The album debuted at #4 where it stayed for a second week (despinas worst debute week in a loooot of time). Afterwards, with heaven struugling to push the album to the top spot with annoyingly heavy promotion (posters and tv adds (by wind mobiles) were everywhere) the album moved up only one spot managing to make it at #3. So far it had got Platinum (making the album her slowest selling one since 1996). Afterwards it fell (free) at #21 (probably her biggest fall ever on the charts, #3-#21). It, afterward slipped at #23 and next week it rised at #22. Since then it has dissapeared from the charts. Isn't it an irony? Despoina and foivos celebrated their 10 year coorperation with this album, and it actually became their biggest DISSASTER (because we are talking about a dissaster here). 
PS. The Platinum certification is exaggerated ( it shouldn't be certified even Gold)
--Mysterious Spy (talk) 21:30, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well i thought the album was great, and it is. It didnt sell many albums because of pirating. The platinum status threshold has dropped from 100,000 a few years ago to less than 30,000 today. I know for a fact, however, that there has been over 30,000 free downloads from greek-fun.com. It was a great album, just not many people "bought" it.Grk1011 (talk) 23:16, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Not only pirating, but also the price of the album played a big role in it.  Because it was a triple CD album, it was priced much higher. You see "Thelo" being a huge hit off the album, while "Agapi" (the next single) is doing great in airplay.  But Grk1011 is right about the pirating too.  Pirating+high cost of album=no purchases. Actually it's not certain that she sold even 30,000 copies.  It went platinum before it came out because of high pre-orders.  IFPI counted pre-orders for certification.  But when the album came out, there wernt so many buys.  That's why it wasnt number 1 on the chart like it should have been.  Now I believe after this IFPI has changed their policy to firm sales for certification. Greekboy (talk) 07:45, 7 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, if you want to add that in. make sure you have a reliable source because otherwise it is just your opinion. Grk1011 (talk) 15:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: For a single to appear in the top 50, it must be released as a CD Singles.  Despina has not release any song as a CD single yet from her new CD.  Only radio singles.  Second, IFPI dosnt have an official airplay chart, but Neilsens does.  Thelo topped the charts as you said, but 10 X.M. (song) DID NOT. Anyway, the fact is that Heaven Music screwed up big time, and so did Phoebus.  The singles are charting the radio airplay charts, and people love it, but because Heaven and Phoebus decided to make it 3 CD's (it could have been 2 CD's with all the existing songs easily), people have to pay 30+ Euro just to buy it.  Add that to the fact that CD sales in general are very low in Greece, and all the rest said above about pirating. The Greek Music industry is dieing.  But you can add into the article about the poor performance if you want.  That's why the chart is there in the bottom.  But you have to get your facts completely right. (about the singles and such) Greekboy (talk) 19:04, 18 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  the album has FLOPPED!!! 

message: Can anyone tell me who is they male singing in this song together with Despina? And also which language it is? It doesn't looks like Greek Makedonia (talk) 13:11, 9 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ta Lefta (Remix) 

message: I'm sorry, but Provlepsimos means more "Predictable" than "Forseeable". I think when she says Oso Problepsimos she means "you are predictable" NOT "you are foreseeable". It simply translates better as predictable. Change it anyone? Queer As Folk (talk) 14:41, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Forseeable and Predictable classically have the same meaning.  And Foreseeable is the direct translation to it. If you break it down to route words in Greek, you can see that too. (Pro=for, vlepsi=see, mos=able).  Not a scientific breakdown, but you get it. Greekboy (talk) 17:03, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Translation

message: I know this is a bit picky, but given that there are three tracks (on disk 3) in English, should the Language section on the infobox not say "Greek/English". Queer As Folk (talk) 18:33, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Having seen that the Destiny version reads Greek, English, I have modified 10xm to read the same. Queer As Folk (talk) 18:35, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: That is probably how it should have been in the first place. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 18:38, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Language 

message: I don't really consider this a drastic move when it is written 10 H.M. on 1. the album cover 2. all MAD sources, including the videos of individual songs, (so this makes it pretty obvious), as well as the title it charted under in IFPI. It's not a stylistic issue, MAD calls the song "10 hronia mazi", but obv that's not the title of the album. GreekStar12 (talk) 22:23, 12 May 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Any move that is not obvious is drastic. What made this move inappropriate was that there was already a discussion and consensus reached for the current name. Grk1011/Stephen (talk) 02:04, 13 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Title 

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