Talk:Tinariwen

message: This article reads as promotional for the band, and indeed even reads as pro-Tuareg. Will see what edits I can make.203.218.39.15 (talk) 14:12, 16 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the bulk of the article is copied from the band's website ().  This is legally allowed under a Creative Commons license, but I don't see the need or point of mirroring the band's website (WP:NOTMIRROR). -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 03:37, 25 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tone 

message: Is there any actual reason for the discography to be in seperate entries? I see only a barely enough info in the The Radio Tisdas Sessions to warrant its own article, and it doesn't look like User:Gasolene even botherered to create a page for Amassakoul after deleting the discography info. I am highly tempted to revert the Discography section to what it was before. Dalrymple 23:46, 2 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Discography 

message: I think it would be worth mentioning that their producer , Justin Adams, is a formidable player in a lot of Jah Wobble's work. It could then be linked to the Jah Wobble page which would give people interested in World Music the option to go onto Jah Wobble's page if it takes their fancy.
Red_Sismey 21:09, 13 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia 

message: Anyone know the name of the track they sang on Jools Holland? 158.94.184.125 15:50, 8 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Jools Holland 

message: Today I am toning down and reducing the text of this article, in an attempt to alleviate concerns about neutrality and excessive detail. Much of the text added recently is less about the band and more about surrounding political developments. I am attempting to make this article more encyclopedic and more about the band. Comments or corrections are welcome. It is apparent that most of the existing history and biography info, which I reduced, is from the Tinariwen website, but the article is is need of internal citations. DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 03:11, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks for your efforts. -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 14:25, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Toning Down and Reducing 

message: Earlier today I've added a link to Tinariwen concert photos from Mali that latter got removed for alleged breach of guidelines for external links. With all due respect for your reasoning and subsequent action I have to disagree with the removal. Before I started posting I have read the guidelines for external links and I believe I haven't breached them. I was not posting a collection of links, was not advertising anything nor trying to abuse Wikipedia articles for search engines rankings. I am well aware what nofollow tag means. My intention was to add and share relevant photo material I have available on musicians / music groups with others. Even having plenty more photos of Tinariwen in different albums (different concerts / festivals) I have followed the guidelines adding only a single link to just one of the folders. I was trying to comply with the guidelines while still enriching information available in articles on musicians / music groups. My intention was not shameless self promotion but adding what I find relevant additional visual materials to the community. I hope you can see and accept my additional link for what it is and that we can agree on re-enabling it again.
Also I would like to apologise for marking my addition minor edit. I wasn't paying attention to already ticked checkbox and I am sorry for that.
Best regards, Marko  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Voknelserp (talk • contribs) 16:00, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, Marko. Please consider that, regardless of your intent, your series of edits came across as the addition of your personal website to more than 2 dozen articles, which raises a red flag with most editors. Furthermore, it is not merely a collection of photos: they are all watermarked and, evidently, up for sale.  As you are affiliated with the website in question, given Wikipedia's conflict of interest guidelines I think it would be better (albeit time consuming) for you to ask on the individual talk pages of the relevant articles. Alternatively, you might consider uploading some of your photos (without watermarks) to Wikimedia Commons, from where users across different language Wikipedias could use your images within the articles, as they see fit.  You could also add a link to a page of photos in Commons by adding  in the relevant Wikipedia article. Thanks again, -- Gyrofrog  (talk) 17:59, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  External links 

message: There are contradictions in this article which confused me.  It says "In the early years of the collective's history, the members were also fans of bootlegged albums by western acts that had made their way to the Tuareg people, with favorites including albums by Dire Straits, Santana, Led Zeppelin, Bob Dylan, Jimi Hendrix, Kenny Rogers and Don Williams."
Then two sentences later later:
"The Tinariwen sound is primarily guitar-driven in the style known as assouf among the Tuareg people. The style is possibly a distant relative of blues music via West African music, though the members of Tinariwen claim to have never heard actual American blues music until they began to travel internationally in 2001"
It is being is argued that the music is only West African influenced, but then contradicts this by citing clear blues/rock western influences.  I for one am confused by this :)  Did they, or did they not listen to bootlegged albums in the early years?  If so, then arguing that there was no rock/blues influence makes little sense.  Either that is untrue, or the sentence about the bootlegged albums isn't true. Disciple3d (talk) 12:20, 20 September 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Until a few months ago this article was a giant un-cited copy-and-paste from the band's website (and, I think, some Tuareg political websites too), and I and a couple of other people cut down on the cruft and added the tags calling for more citations. I also noticed the contradiction that you mention and I'm not sure where either of the two statements came from originally, but they were in the much more extensive text that we trimmed. The article still needs more verifiable sources for this stuff and hopefully someone will help out eventually. --DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 13:57, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradictions 

message: A user at two IP addresses (i.e. 41.99.6.146, 41.99.124.131) has introduced two pairs of edits with deliberate factual errors (i.e. first pair, second pair). They replace "Mali" with "Algeria". I have reverted both edits, and hope that this stands as a clear warning against further attempts to distort the accuracy of this article. ~ Fopam (talk) 15:53, 4 April 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Interested people should keep an eye on this due to recent events in Mali. The region from which Tinariwen hails declared independence from Mali and I would suspect Algerian influence. Watch for political propaganda and revisionist history.--DOOMSDAYER520 (Talk|Contribs) 14:57, 9 April 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Repeated vandalism 

message: "If you speak to him, tell him that if he ever shows his face in this town again, we'll cut off all the fingers he uses to play his guitar with." http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/23/mali-militants-declare-war-music 79.251.107.91 (talk) 17:50, 27 October 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Threats against guitar player in the town of Kidal 

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