Talk:Ancestry of the people of the United States

message: These maps are self-generated by me at the U.S. Census Bureau's American Factfinder site (). "West Indian," "Arab," and "Sub-saharan African" ancestries are not listed. These maps focus only on the European ancestries of white or Caucasian Americans. 
Hope these pictures will be educating and informative for you. -- Stevey7788 03:01, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I've also created Maps of Oakland, California and Maps of Chicago. This is part of my project of obtaining self-generated images from the American Factfinder (), although I do hope a bot would be available for this because I have to do all this manually. The tiring steps are : 
** Selecting preferences/color/settings/location
** Selecting the theme
** Saving image
** Uploading
Maybe a bot would be nice to have. 
-- Stevey7788 03:01, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Source of images

message: If you would like to learn how to use the American Factfinder () , here's how (it takes a while to learn it): 
Go to the website's main page and click on the "Data sets" tab on the left side. Once the page loads, you should see "Summary File (SF) 1,"  "SF 2," "SF 3," and so forth. Use SF 1 for race, renter/owner occupation, and age/sex data. SF 3 is for all sorts of economic, social, and housing characteristics. 
Now click on "SF 1" or "SF 3." You can now select "quick tables," "detailed tables," or "thematic maps." Once you've selected something, select "place," "county," "state," etc. Then select a theme. 
Summary of operations: Main -- All Data Sets -- Data Sets with Thematic Maps -- Geography -- Themes -- Results
There are a lot more features I haven't mentioned. Feel free to experiment with the Factfinder tools. 
Thanks. 
-- Stevey7788 03:01, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Using Factfinder

message: are these from the 2000 census? - Omegatron 21:19, May 1, 2005 (UTC)
:Yes they are, 2000. — Stevey7788 (talk) 06:07, 2 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: year

message: I moved this page because United Statian is not the term for a resident or citizen of the United States. -Acjelen 18:06, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Moving page

message: No consensus was reached prior to moving this page. It should be reverted to its correct title, "Ancestries of Americans". Firebug 03:23, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Comment: Actually, since the article is almost totally maps, and only covers certain European countries (no Switzerland or Austria, for example) plus African ancestry (from a separate source), even the title "Ancestries of the people of the United States" is too broad (no Asian ancestry, for example). I would support a name change to "Maps of ancestries of the people of the United States" (or something similar). BlankVerse ∅  09:46, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Unsupported page move

message: The page was moved again, this time to Maps of American ancestries because this page isabout maps. It is different from Demographics of the United States. — Stevey7788 (talk) 01:23, 16 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Moved page

message: What about Hispanic/Latino ancestry? --Lord Voldemort (Dark Mark) 18:09, 3 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Hispanic population

message: These people's ancestors were repatriated Americans.  IP Address 13:16, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Ironic on the face of it, perhaps. But the southern Appalachians were the major center of Unionist sentiment within the Confederacy, while in the northern Appalachians WV seceded from VA to stay in the Union. --JWB 21:02, 20 July 2006 (UTC)

text: Yes, you can also talk about Highland and Lowland Southern cultures as David Hackett Fischer does. But getting back to "American" ancestry, the main factor is that more Northerners have recent ethnic roots, so everyone is assumed to have an ethnicity. Anyway, the Confederate States of America were still American, not to mention the rest of the hemisphere. --JWB 06:10, 21 July 2006 (UTC)

text: The North is already about as Catholic as it's likely to get. It's the South where Catholicism is on the increase, with migration from the North, Latin America, and the Caribbean. Not sure what you mean by Northern interest in later dynasties? --JWB 20:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: "American" ancestry is Confederate ancestry

message: Edit at 17:12, 15 March 2007, was minor.  Apologies. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 67.54.255.14 (talk) 17:20, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Did not mark the last edit as "Minor"

message: Why do we have articles for every ancestry but not for "American ancestry"? I wanted to learn more about the subject but couldn't. --Taraborn (talk) 21:31, 9 September 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: American ancestry article

message: The Pennsylvania Dutch are not a specifically religious group or even especially "iconic". I think whoever wrote that section was thinking of the Amish. The PA Dutch are descendants of German speaking people who emigrated to Pennsylvania mainly before 1800 or so. They shared a common language, German or Deutsch, which through the years evolved into a distinctive dialect called Pennsylfawnisch Deitsch. Culturally they were somewhat isolated due to their language, but were not especially distinctive in regards to their religion as the majority were of what today are considered mainline protestant churches, such as Lutheran (today mostly ELCA) and Reformed (today UCC), with a double sprinkling (a "spritzing" in Deitsch, lol) of various Anabaptist groups, including Amish, Mennonite and Brethren. Because a central idea of anabaptists is the right for an individual to consciously choose his or her faith after the age of majority, they were found in nearly every religious group they came into contact with in the very diverse PA, including Quakers, Universalists, Methodists, and Presbyterians. They were less likely, though it was certainly not unheard of, for them to join the Catholic or Episcopal church. More than a few were and are simply unchurched. This article should be updated to be clear that while "Amish" is a religious tradition (with many different expressions), "Pennsylvania Dutch" is an ethnicity differentiated by mostly linguistic differences and only slightly by sectarian tendencies, more similar to, say, Swedish-Americans, than Jewish-Americans. Nosimplehiway (talk) 18:50, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I completely agree... When I read that section, it was clear that the writer was refering only to the "Plain People" or perhaps more specifically just the Old Order Amish, who make up only a small part of the Pennsylvania Dutch ethnicity. I'm of half Pennsylvania Dutch ancestry and I'm not religious at all, and my father even considered himself an atheist. Though in the past, the Pennsylvania Dutch were relatively isolated due to their rural location and distinctive language, today most people of Pennsylvania Dutch heritage speak only English and have been largely assimilated in mainstream culture. Their influence is still felt in the art, food, dialects, and world view of the area... They are set apart from other German Americans due to their distinctive history and culture much in the same way that Cajuns are different than French and even French Canadian. --129.68.111.84 (talk) 18:45, 28 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Pennsylvania Dutch Reference

message: The maps do not seem to have any key to indicate the actual proportions shown by different tones.  This issue has arisen at Scottish people, where there are moves to remove :File:Scottish1346.gif from the article.  Can someone respond helpfully to the discussion on that page?  Ghmyrtle (talk) 08:32, 14 July 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: European ancestry maps

message: Does anyone know when this sort of information gets released for the most recent census?-- Patrick, oѺ∞ 13:42, 15 April 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  2010 Census info yet? 

message: Need an explanation as to why references are being removed and a map that is made for statistical data. You may not believe that American ethnicity is possible but it is. Pls read over thisMoxy (talk) 20:21, 3 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok we dont make things up here - all we can do is regurgitate what is out there - We cant use "YOUR" definition of who is an American. A Native American is not the same as an American.  Please read  over Wikipedia:Verifiability - The threshold for inclusion in Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth—whether readers can check that material in Wikipedia has already been published by a reliable source, not whether editors think it is true.Moxy (talk) 12:06, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm confused, what's the problem with putting the map in the "Major ancestries" section? Or even by itself in the prose, with a caption explaining that many citizens consider their ancestry to be only "American". Either way, we shouldn't remove the map, that's a non-starter here. There also isn't a deadline on Wikipedia, so waiting a week won't make a certain position right or not.-- Patrick, oѺ∞ 13:47, 4 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of referances  

message: While the ancestries question was removed from the 2010 Census, the Census Bureau still includes it in the American Community Survey 5-Year Estimates, and the 2010 data is available.  Bloomberg has a map online, but it looks odd to my eye. For one, African-Americans are divided up such that they hardly show up. For example, D.C. is listed a "Predominately Irish", which is hard to fathom, even with recent changes. But if someone was interested in getting the statistics and breaking them down, here's the site!-- Patrick, oѺ∞ 00:55, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Data for a new map