Talk:Apostolic-Prophetic Movement

message: There is a disambiguation issue with respect to Bob Jones - the individual referred to in the article is not included on the disambiguation page. (Bob Jones the "prophet" is not any of the individuals associated with the university of that name.) I've removed the wikilink for that name for the moment until the disambiguation page is amended. Mike Doughney 21:05, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: There is still no change to the disambiguation page, though the wikilink had been re-added. I have removed it again. Holford (talk) 23:42, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Disambiguation issue

message: "Their movement was called the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR) and grew at a rate of nine million people per year."
Grew is past tense, so for what period of years does this appertain? Is it still growing at this outrageous rate? Is it only in the United States or is this a worldwide growth rate? How are the censuses done within a group of loosely confederated churches?
~Sollupulo 2600:1016:B105:530F:71C8:E44A:C12F:EBC7 (talk) 21:31, 7 March 2024 (UTC)
thread_title: Quite a fantasic claim

message: There seems to be great subjectivity on what prophecy is, according to this page.  I've included a reference from Jonathan Edwards' work on Revival in order to add some balance but there remains a great deal of opinion in the article.  A link to what prophecy is would help as well.
David B. 11:32, 7 August 2007
What does Jonathan Edwards have to do with the Latter Rain movement? Or David Wilkerson,for that matter? I would think that Wilkerson would object strenuously to being included in any article favorable to this heresy. --JoeyKelly  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.171.94.246 (talk) 05:16, 1 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Jonathan Edwards

message: Politically inflammatory remarks such as "the supreme court elected George Bush" have no place here whatsoever.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 159.26.243.3 (talk) 17:51, 12 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Burning Bush

message: The following list does not belong in the article. If it contains reliable sources it should be rewritten to take the form of citations. Mike Doughney (talk) 18:34, 24 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List removed from article 

message: Is the article either titled Kansas City Prophets or the Apostolic/Prophetic  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Deltadom (talk • contribs) 01:41, 25 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article has wrong title 

message: This article is not much different from the New Apostolic Reformation page. I suggest one of two solutions. Either we merge this article with that one, or we move this article to the name "Kansas City Prophets". Another article that is very close is five-fold ministry. My suggestion is to move the article to the name "Kansas City Prophets" and change the article to focus directly on that subject. Flofor15 (talk) 18:48, 27 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  I suggest a move 

message: It would be helpful if the place and time of the movement were mentioned early on. I wasn't sure until after the first paragraph in what millennium, and on what continent, this movement took place... Omphaloscope talk 18:18, 21 January 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggestion 

message: The very first sentence of the Introduction, which reads "The Apostolic-Prophetic Movement (AP movement) refers to a restoration of the neglected elements of the Five-Fold Ministry described in the New Testament book of Ephesians 4:11–13, 'some apostles, and some prophets; and some evangelists; and some pastors and teachers; for the equipping of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the building up of the body of Christ,'" at once assumes the reader agrees the movement is a "restoration," that "elements" have been otherwise ignored (by whom?), that an unspecified version of The Bible describes a "Five-Fold Ministry," and in general would cause a casual and objective reader to ignore the entire thing. It goes downhill from there. Kcor53 (talk) 12:46, 30 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Introduction 

message: This is an encyclopedia, not a faith-based resource. This article is neither comprehensive nor fully informative. It assumes a target demographic that is already familiar with the context and potentially shares the underlying faith.
Fully editorial statement: Evangelical Christian ministerial writing is appalling. It fails utterly to communicate a self understanding and instead takes on the qualities of advertisement or self aggrandizement. It is precisely the reason no one out side of the evangelical church can watch a PureFlix movie without cringing to death. Someone with the time, conviction, and expertise please address horrid lump of an article and give at least a *smeblance* of a critical process. 2600:1004:B167:564C:0:33:55A2:B01 (talk) 03:53, 19 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article has the tone of a church pamphlet. 

message: The article refers to the five-fold ministry as a crucial element in the movement, but fails to tell us what the five ministries are. Only apostle and prophet are mentioned. Koro Neil (talk) 02:31, 12 March 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: See "Introduction" in the Talk section above. Julietta Swift (talk) 09:52, 27 February 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Five! Count ’em, two!