Talk:Florence Baptistery

message: "Battisteria" is a barbarism; the Italian word is "battistero". Since a change had to be made, I added (Florence) since there are many baptistries in honor of St. John, of course. -- Bill 16:09, 5 Oct 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: Can well understand that; no shortage of slovenly books, alas! and of course once something gets into print, everybody says "I saw it in a book" and our collective geese are cooked. I fight this kind of thing every day, and sometimes get trapped by it myself. It's irksome having to check everything all over again, though. Best, B.
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Hi, all. According to Wikipedia:Naming conventions (common names),
we're supposed to use "the most common name of a person or thing". (The
page Wikipedia:Naming conventions (use English) is also of some
relevance.)
Alas, "Battistero di San Giovanni" is definitely not the most common name
for that building in the English-speaking world. Doing a web search on
pages in English, we get the following count:
* "Battistero di San Giovanni" - 164
* "Battisteria di San Giovanni" - 49
* Baptistery AND "San Giovanni" - 1,330
* Baptistery AND Florence - 19,400
I used the compound search 'Baptistery AND Florence' to try and weed out
references to other baptisteries. I reckon there are that many pages that
include "Baptistery" and "Florence" that aren't about the Baptistery.
Still, even if you guess that maybe 25% of the pages above are bad hits,
it's clear that the predominant name for that building is simply the
"Baptistery". (I included the search for 'Baptistery AND "San Giovanni"'
to make it clear that it's not being called the "Baptistery of San
Giovanni".)
So, unless someone has a cogent argument as to why we should ignore
Wikipedia policy in this case, I am proposing to move this page to
"Baptistery".
We will need a page about what a "baptistery" is, which I will write; we
will need to add a disambig link to that new page to the top of this
page. I will also fix all the pages that link to "baptistery" to refer to
that new page.
Noel 03:38, 20 Oct 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: have substituted the pic showing the mosaic ceiling. here the former one: Image:Firenze.Baptistry.ceiling01.JPG
regardsTetraktys-English 05:32, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Excellent new photos from Tetraktys are showing up in many art articles! Thank you. --Wetman 06:16, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  new photo

message: Noticing the apparently random variation of the equally common spellings Baptistry and Baptistery in this article (and other parts of Wikipedia) I felt a decision was needed in the interests of consistency - at least within the single article. After carefully studying the above discussions, and noting that baptistery is the first spelling given in The New Oxford Dictionary for Writers and Editors, I am persuaded that baptistery is the better choice here. I have therefore edited the article for consistency and moved it to the changed title. In view of the precedents, I would be very surprised if this were to prove controversial. Cheers Bjenks (talk) 05:25, 1 November 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Standardized spelling [[Baptistery]] 

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message: I did research, both in English and in Italian, and there seems to be no evidence other than GCatholic that this building is a Basilica. In particular, it is a Baptistry and not a consecrated church, hence it would be rather improbable it could be a minor basilica in the first place. The website GCatholic states it is a basilica but does not provide any primary source for it, hence I have added the  tag. Eccekevin (talk) 00:55, 10 March 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Basilica status

message: The apse was originally semicircular, but it was made rectangular in 1202.
or so it says in the article, but my understanding from earlier in the article is that the building was originally an octagon and that the rectangular portal was added in 1202 and that this was changed into an apse some time in the 15th or 16th century when the bronze doorway on the eastern side was added to open directly to the western entrance of the cathedral. I have no proof of this other than the inconsistencies of the information presented in the article. The website of the church https://duomo.firenze.it/en/discover/baptistry indicates that this eastern door was the last of the three bronze doors installed. AkilinaL (talk) 13:28, 30 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Contradictions?