Talk:Desideratum (Synæsthesia album)

message: Both their main page and this page claim this album to be Synaesthesia's first, but this is not the case since virtually every other online Synaesthesia source asserts that this album was released in October of 1995, and Embody (their real first) was released on or about January earlier that year and was recorded in '94.  Therefore Desideratum is their second release, not the "debut".  I removed the debut albums category from the list on this page, and made sure they weren't listed there (they weren't, somebody just threw the debut albums category onto this page). Filter1987 19:22, 17 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Chronology

message: User:Armbrust, happy with above close if that is the view of the community. I have added About template hatnote to link to the racehorse and John Wesley book etc on dab page. Does the article need a wiktionary box in your view? In ictu oculi (talk) 22:50, 23 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: For the Allmusic review, the link is found in the "Album ratings" infobox. Dohn joe (talk) 00:43, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: 6 sentences, 103 words (according to Microsoft Word), just 6 lines of text on my browser's view (with each line spanning less than half the screen width), with no mention of what anyone else thinks of the album. My impression is that Allmusic essentially tries to cover – well, basically all music, without much regard to notability. To me that's not sufficient to pass WP:NALBUMS / WP:GNG. —BarrelProof (talk) 01:08, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to WP:AFD, then.... Dohn joe (talk) 01:30, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks, but I'd rather just pontificate. Besides, it seems so much easier to create articles on Wikipedia than to delete them, that for every instance in which people have bothered to spend their collective time and energy to follow the AfD process to completion, there may be 20 other articles created that will never be more than poorly-sourced stubs. Why bother trying? —BarrelProof (talk) 02:53, 24 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: User:Dohn joe, in fact I probably should have AFDed rather than put in RM since the base problem here is the completely unnotable album with nothing but an allmusic review occupying a primary topic seat. If it does go to AFD will you oppose? In ictu oculi (talk) 07:49, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't know - is an allmusic review usually enough for notability? Dohn joe (talk) 14:46, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Apparently not. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:20, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, I'm willing to leave it for the music and AfD folks to decide. I won't oppose, unless I find further references. Dohn joe (talk) 22:25, 27 May 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I have to say my view of the utility of AFD is much the same as User:BarrelProof. We cannot stop non-notable pop culture subjects accumulating. The time spent deleting this non-notable album could more profitably be spent creating something actually notable, such as The Desideratum; or, Electricity Made Plain and Useful. In ictu oculi (talk) 00:32, 28 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Sources

message: I've contested/reverted the move Desideratum (album) -> Desideratum as I see no WP:PRIMARYTOPIC (PT) or discussion (per that). There's no reason to assume there is a PT per candidates at Desiderata (disambiguation) and even the term Desideratum (album) is still ambiguous so I've changed that to target the dab per WP:INCOMPDAB. I'm not sure of the state of titles/topics/dab when the RM above was formed, but clearly consensus can change, and the above RM is outdated. With current article names, and dab, in hindsight User:In ictu oculi seems to have the only position that's now tenable, and I suspect even during the RM looking into the ambiguous term "Desideratum" should have resulted in the current (now fixed) layout. It's an unusual one due to the Latin plural, but seems standard run-of-the-mill disambiguation so I've fixed everything. Just in case folk want a PT discussion for the album (does it even pass WP:NALBUM ?), ping RMers User:Dohn joe User:Cavarrone User:Torchiest User:Born2cycle Widefox; talk 12:42, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: I don't care about this other than to point out that there was a source in the article, but it wasn't formatted properly as a reference. —Torchiest talkedits 18:47, 19 September 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: The issue of notability is separate but still hangs over this with the one source per GNG / NALBUM. I've replaced the tag as I don't know. Widefox; talk 22:06, 19 September 2016 (UTC)

text: It makes no sense to contest a move from 2 years ago, much less revert it.  Start a new RM.  --В²C ☎ 00:00, 27 September 2016 (UTC)

text: I also object to redirecting Desideratum to Desiderata.  If someone is searching for Desideratum they're probably looking for something named Desideratum, not something named Desiderata. But the main objection is to your unilateral actions.  Please revert what you've done and submit a proper RM proposal for the changes you propose.  --В²C ☎ 00:06, 27 September 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Revert ambiguous move