Talk:The Carpenters

message: If anyone is interested in resurecting the move, it doesn't look like there is any real evidence against it other than, "I always called them the Carpenters". The evidence has not been presented widely. However, A look at the latest large news organizations indicate that "Carpenters" is the proper name, and when "the" is used to make the sentence read better, it is used in lowercase indicating that it isn't part of the name. See this search: https://news.google.com/search?q=%22carpenters%22%20Karen%20AND%20Richard&hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen 
Additionally, the only exceptions I saw in reviewing the first 10-20 hits were from small news sources with (likely) little editorial control over the content. We should make a list here of the articles that have been properly researched and are sources which are clearly Verifiable and Reliable. For example here are a few:
* Billboard magazine clearly recognizes the name of the band as only "Carpenters" pointing out that they have 8 of the 50 top hits from the A&M label. See A&M Records’ 50 Biggest Hits on the Billboard Hot 100 While it Was Owned by Herb Alpert & Jerry Moss. Frankly this should be definitive but we probably need more.
* Rolling Stone is also careful to call them "Carpenters" and use the lower case "the". Richard Carpenter Still Thinks the Carpenters’ Seventies Hits Are Underrated
* The New York Times article about Karen's death from 1983 clearly only uses lowercase "the" as the article is not part of the band name https://www.nytimes.com/1983/02/05/obituaries/karen-carpenter-32-is-dead-singer-teamed-with-brother.html Another definitive source that should be enough by itself. 
* Also consistent in a 1991 article RECORDINGS VIEW; Revisionist Thinking On the Carpenters and NYT should know since "The New York Times" insist on using "The" as part of their name. 
* Washington Post also is careful to use "the" and omit it altogether such as "Folks thought it was Dennis Wilson playing drums on those Beach Boys hits, Karen Carpenter on those Carpenter classics, Micky Dolenz on those Monkees melodies." https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/lifestyle/style/1997/07/13/the-beatmaster/8e9e6385-2aee-4632-bc43-2ec02f87da49/ 
* The new biography intentionally omits "the" Carpenters: The Musical Legacy 
* The guardian reporting on the new biography "the" only ‘She was no submissive puppet’: how I discovered the real Karen Carpenter’s determination and drive 
* Yahoo entertainment also uses lowercase Karen Carpenter had a 'quest for perfection' in her music that 'carried over in her life,' says biographer 
* WTOP News Yesterday Once More: Young TikTok talent re-imagines Carpenters 1970s Top 40 classics
* The Downey Patriot (town where Carpenters lived starting in 63 and from which they launched their career) Downey to consider Furman Park plaque to honor Carpenters
Anyway - there seems to be pretty clear evidence that Carpenters is the correct name for the group. We just need to all active on the Wiki for a few weeks to respond to those that oppose any RM. --Trödel 01:15, 16 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I recommend that you initiate a formal Move Request. StarcheerspeaksnewslostwarsTalk to me 23:11, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text:  I plan to, but if it's just me against the RM community, it is pretty clear how that will go down. I was hopeful some others who actually care about this article would respond and we could bring the issue to the community together. --Trödel 23:18, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Resurecting THE move 

message: Per this edit, can somebody remind me what the consensus was for putting years next to sub-headings (eg: "Album 1 (1971)", "Album 2 (1972)"). I can't remember. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 16:58, 2 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Years 

message: picture The Carpenters wiht Nixon in the White House
why only the part of the picture with Karen and Richard ?
why is the part with Richard Nixon cropped ?
--Über-Blick (talk) 00:32, 18 January 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  strange picture manipulation in this article 

message: Just a heads up. Announced today on AP News, “Carpenters: The Musical Legacy” (Princeton University Press), co-written by Richard Carpenter, along with Associated Press journalist Mike Cidoni Lennox and Chris May. Might be a useful source of content for WP articles Richard Carpenter (musician) and The Carpenters because the AP article covers the subject in some depth (not just a passing mention). Platonk (talk) 15:51, 8 November 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  New book, Carpenters: The Musical Legacy