Talk:Australian Idol

message: I think the moral of the story is if you want someone voted out, write an article about them :P -- Chuq 02:41, 21 September 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: The true moral..

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* Can link Australian television: ...became one of the most popular shows on Australian television. The final between Guy Sebastian and Sh...
* Can link Channel Ten: ...dcast on Australian television in 2003. Channel Ten paid $15 million for the series but thi... Note: this is a dupe - already have Network Ten.
* Can link reality series: ...luding the Ten Network to invest in new reality series that were not as successful, such as ...
* Can link debut album: ...e 3rd in the competition to release her debut album shortly, and winner Guy Sebastian due t...
* Can link top 40: ...n Idol contestants have enjoyed fifteen top 40 hits in Australia since November 2003...
* Can link top ten: ...n October 2004;  Rob Mills reached the top ten in late May 2004 with "Ms Vanity&q...
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thread_title: Possible Wiki Links

message: What the fuck is that picture that looks like... a really strange Shannon Noll againsts the Logo. Methinks the pic should be changed to be the logo instead.
LordMooCow 05:59, 3 June 2005 (GMT+10) — Preceding undated comment added 07:59, 5 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I concur — La hapalo 13:47, 27 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: What is that dreadful picture?

message: Note:  Daniel Spillane is currently being considered for deletion at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daniel Spillane.  --rob 09:39, 20 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article for deletion:  [[Daniel Spillane]] 

message: I can't remember if he was or not, but isn't "Unforgettable" the category for the excruciatingly bad? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.113.233.42 (talk) 11:37, 21 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Was Joel Turner actually an "Unforgettable"? 

message: Shouldn't there be an article on flynn? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 60.226.28.201 (talk) 01:00, 23 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Flynn

message: At time of writing, Lee had been voted out one week ago, Emily was runner up, and Kate won. So why does it say Lee won, Emily second, and Kate third. I hope this isn't vandalism--M Johnson 00:10, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: This article has seen a spell of pro-Lee vandalism since he was voted out. Seems some people don't want to admit to themselves that he didn't win. Cnwb 00:42, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Incorrect Information

message: Was just wanting to know why we can't have the TV screenshot logo (as I had done for almost all the Idol series')? — Preceding unsigned comment added by ZlatkoT (talk • contribs) 09:00, 22 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Idol Logo change Nov 20 05 

message: I have removed the following passage, due to the fact it is based on speculation; 
:"Speculation informs that the public would have preferred the runners up to win. People would have preferred Shannon to win over Guy by abit, Anthony to win over Casey by a mile, and Emily to win over Kate alot."
Cnwb 05:51, 25 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Speculation on public opinion

message: *Why does this link to Australian Idol & not to his own page? Is there a way to dissociate them from each other? ZlatkoT 08:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: [[Peter Ryan (singer)]]

message: I feel this article should mention that there is a disclaimer that states that votes may or may not have an impact on the results of the show. Similarly, I know American idol holds pre-auditions, though I haven't heard about whether Australian does or not. Anyway, that's my 2 cents. 60.224.48.152 11:56, 28 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Miscellaneous

message: Do we have to keep the ugly orange colour which does not conform at all tto the Idol colour scheme. Disagree.ZlatkoT 14:53, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: UGLY!

message: Are the singles listed as (Still in Chart) actually still in the chart?  I've heard that Kate's Faded has left the top 100. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.53.251.2 (talk) 01:06, 7 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Still in chart?

message: I have noticed in a few weeks that Ricki-lee's album was in the Urban charts, so I was guessing that the album also stayed inside the Top 100 for a few weeks too. Could anyone please check if the album stayed in the Top 100 for more than 6 weeks (that is what it says in the Albums table)??????? RaNdOm26 06:06, 8 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Ricki-Lee

message: What do you think about the new singles table??? The old one was very big, so I made some new sub-headings. Should I change it back? RaNdOm26 07:28, 10 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Singles table 

message: This statement appears in the article:  "The reason of Casey's win has been debated ever since the announcement and her career has been a failure. She has yet to have a song popular with the public and the runner ups first single outsold Caseys first album in a very short amount of time."
I agree that Anthony Callea's single did outsell Casey Donovan's efforts, but it is a bit harsh to say "her career has been a failure. She has yet to have a song popular with the public."  Perhaps the author has forgotten that "Listen With Your Heart" spent a fornight at number 1 on the ARIA charts, and the follow-up, "What's Going On?" was a top 10 hit.  Any feedback as to how we could make this more objective? Phil500 07:36, 23 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-NPOV statements about Casey 

message: I think we should break up this article into individual series, like we did for Big Brother. What do you think? Cnwb 01:49, 2 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably not. There's not a lot of info in each of the sections at the moment. But I'd agree to a split if they can be expanded upon. RaNdOm26 06:15, 3 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Splitting article into individual series 

message: I think this article should be split, a separate article for each season.  I'm only suggesting this so that non-notable former contestants' articles can be merged with a shorter article rather than with this one, as otherwise I'd have nominated them all for deletion.  A lot of them have good information in them, and it would be a shame for it to get lost.
* Australian Idol 2003
* Australian Idol 2004
* Australian Idol 2005
* Australian Idol 2006
jd || talk || 23:22, 18 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Split This will allow the articles to obtain more information about the seasons and stop the Australian Idol article from getting too big in size. --Lakeyboy 04:58, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Should the new articles be named something like Australian Idol (Season 4), similar to how American Idol names their season articles????????? The new articles could include the semi-finalists as well. What do you think? RaNdOm26 11:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I named them Australian Idol year because the website currently says Australian Idol 2006, plus I'm not sure that there is consensus on whether Australian articles should be named season or series.  I've already merged most of the finalists' articles where I don't think they are notable outside of Australian Idol.  jd || talk || 11:33, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hmmm, but should they be renamed to Aus Idol Season 4 instead? I was only thinking that the naming of these articles should be consistent with the articles from the other world Idol shows. RaNdOm26 11:52, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The stuff in brackets is for disambiguation, and if the season number can be included as a part of an article's name, I won't use the disambiguation; so I would not support moving the articles to names like that.  If other people comment and would rather the articles were named like that, I wouldn't do anything to try and get in the way of that.  jd || talk || 12:21, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Okay, how about this. The show is not called "Australian Idol 2006", it's only called "Australian Idol". Having the title of an article as "Australian Idol 2006" tries to tell that the show is in fact called "Australian Idol 2006", but it isn't. The logo in the official website does NOT have the year "2006" at all. I do think it is more appropriate to have the title as "Australian Idol (Season 4)". Please reply. RaNdOm26 11:02, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm only going by what I see on the website.  Australian Idol isn't the only show to not have a season number in the logo.  Articles of other programmes that don't have season numbers in the logo are still named differently.  The Amazing Race, The X Factor, some series of Big Brother, America's Next Top Model, The Contender, The Apprentice...  I'm sure there's more, but I'm not going to start looking right now.  jd || talk || 11:53, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm going to move the page Australian Idol 2006 to Australian Idol (Season 4), and the others, just to let people know - WP:BOLD (hehehe) RaNdOm26 08:51, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Don't do that.  I've quite clearly disagreed with this, and nobody else has commented yet.  Please wait for more people to comment before taking any action.  jd || talk || 08:53, 31 October 2006 (UTC)

text: You can disagree all you like, but there is no consensus to move the pages, and you moved them anyway after somebody said that they disagreed with the proposed moves.  Also, I have shown that the official website says Australian Idol 2006; you haven't given me anything like that.  Please provide something better than that, or wait for more people to comment.  jd || talk || 09:08, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: What are you talking about? I looked at the website and I didn't see anywhere saying "Australian Idol 2006". You didn't show anything. RaNdOm26 17:16, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It says it in the title bar.  The 2004 website also said Australian Idol 2004 on the front page, after Casey Donovan won.  jd || talk || 17:27, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I gotta agree with JD on this one, the website definitely says Australian Idol 2006. — AnemoneProjectors (talk) 23:20, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This site does use season numbers though. RaNdOm26 14:37, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That's a fansite; it isn't official.  It also says Australian Idol 2006 on there, and I don't see them saying anywhere that their use of "season x" is to be considered official.  JDtalk 14:43, 1 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Split 

message: Is it just me or is the "Commercial performance of Australian Idol contestants" section way too long? In comparison to the arguably more important section of "About the show" it's absolutely mammoth, not to mention the fact that it's just a long list of bullets. On a similar note is an infobox the most appropriate place for a list of finalists? If the show continues that infobox is going to be huge. What can be done here? -Lemike 09:53, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The section is most of the article.  I think it can be cut down a lot as there is an article about all the commercial releases, perhaps a bit of text and a link?  The rest of the article needs to be padded out a lot as well, as I'm sure there's much more to Idol than just two paragraphs of text.  If it can't be padded out enough for the infobox to not be too long, I say just scrap it.  jd || talk || 10:03, 31 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Section lengths 

message: Just noticed that he isnt on the albums chart. i know he peaked at #10 but dont know the rest of the other facts. he should be added —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.169.216.39 (talk) 12:22, 19 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Dean Geyer

message: Hey everyone. I created the table listing the album sales of the Australian Idol alumni, and I've just found an article on the Australian Daily Telegraph website that states that Shannon Noll's third album went triple platinum, therefore placing him number one on the Australian Idol alumni album sales chart. Was just wondering if people think it shoud be updated or left as it is. The website address is http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,22822238-5006002,00.html if you'd like to look at it. Thanks.
Ryan_wood16 22:41, 16 April 2008 (GMT)
Shannon's third album was only accredited 1X Platinum. Aria is the only legitimate source of information for accreditations and they state 1 X Platinum. There are various claims of sales and accreditations for Shannon, with the more generous ones rather far fetched. His accreditations are as follows - 1st album 5 X Platinum, 2nd album 3 X Platinum, 3rd album 1 X Platinum and 4th album no accreditation at all. He also has 8 Platinum accreditations and 2 gold accreditations for singles. Making a total of 17 Platinums(9 for albums) which also makes the claim on his wikipedia page of over 1.5 million sales world wide seem a little bit of a stretch in the imagination as his only true success outside of Australia was a #2 single in Ireland. It is rather hard to work out how on earth the person who put that information in came up with that figure, as they supplied no citation for it. But of course people can claim what they want. Doesnt make it true though.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 219.90.253.111 (talk) 13:06, 19 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Shannon Noll's Album Certifications 

message: In order to converge with the Standards set by the American Idol pages, as well as the press releases by Network Ten (http://www.tvtonight.com.au/2008/03/australian-idol-2008-auditions-add-la.html), with the exception of media who names Australian Idol by the year number, the approach should be to reference the Australian Idol by series numbers. As such, we will stick with this approach unless there is logical reasoning to do otherwise. Please comment on my page if you have any issues with this. ~Teenchoiceawards (talk) 11:37, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I think this is a good idea I'll get right into it -- Smiley Miley Disney (talk) 14:05, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Australian Idol Not By Year But By Series (Official) 

message: "The show is hosted by music television emcee and television personality James Mathison and gold logie star Kate Ritchie."  I don't think so!  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.165.179.11 (talk) 07:29, 4 June 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: This is a bit of a scoop

message: It seems some Australian newspapers and Wikipedia  say Australian  Idol is being rested-officially no decision has been made on the talent show, despite media speculation as to what may yet transpire according to David Knox from tvonight.com.auaafuss 04:32, 18 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: Rested in 2010?

message: The section that notes the cirtiscism of Idol contestants needs to be revised, they only list Casey Donovan, Kate Dearaugo and Natalie gauci as unsuccessful but Wes Carr is listed on the successful side!  No offense to him he is talented but he has actually sold less records than the girls who won and I know for a fact that Casey Donovan has continued her career and is doing really well so this section does not accuratly (spelling) show who has sold more records.  In fact, on the commercial releases page in the table of ARIA accreditations recieved by Idol alumni, Casey Donovan is ranked much higher than alot of others who are on the supposedly "successful" list.
18/Feb/2010 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.178.85.28 (talk) 05:25, 18 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Critisicm

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