Talk:Motor vehicle

message: This is how people are mislead when dealing with government.  Same word but VERY different meanings.  The ONLY definition that applies is the one spelled out in LAW, not the one found in the "dictionary"!
Title 18 United States Code, Sec. 31
        PART I - CRIMES
        CHAPTER 2 - AIRCRAFT AND MOTOR VEHICLES
        Sec. 31. Definitions	
                When used in this chapter the term -
		
Motor vehicle means every description of carriage or other contrivance
propelled or drawn by mechanical power AND 'Used For Commercial Purposes' on
the highways in the transportation of passengers, passengers and property,
or property or cargo; 
the above was definition (6) of the above cited United States Code Title 18'
additionally, definition (10) states  "Used for commercial purposes.— The term “used for commercial purposes” means the carriage of persons or property for any fare, fee, rate, charge or other consideration, or directly or indirectly in connection with any business, or other undertaking intended for profit."  So, the only motor vehicle you must have a driver license for is one which is used where some sort of remuneration is involved. The intention to make a profit must be involved.  
Carlichek (talk) 17:12, 14 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Misleading US POV

message: How is a "motor vehicle" meaningfully different from an "automobile"? Ham Pastrami 08:58, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Never mind. I seem to have answered my own question by correcting the land-only clause that was in the article. Ham Pastrami 09:09, 9 October 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Motor vehicle vs automobile

message: Let's tackle on issue at a time.
* Regarding the 1 billion motor vehicles, none of the sources explicitly excludes motorcycles, but you assumed they are excluded. The Ward's article excludes two types of vehicles, which is what the article reflects. The Two Billion book can help clarify the issue, as this reference also supports the fact that the one billion mark was reached, but in footnote 1, Chapter 1, page 13, explicitly says:
:"We use the term cars here to represent all conventional motor vehicles, be they cars, sport utility vehicles, minivans, trucks, buses, motorcycles, scooters, or three-wheeled motorized vehicles. When a narrower definition of cars is intended, it will be made clear."
So it is clear that one billion includes motorcycles, as well as the forecasted two billion. I will add the TwoBillion citation to support that content, and add a summary of the note to avoid further confusion.--Mariordo (talk) 14:28, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I added that exclusion because the 3rd para in the original Ward's ref explicitly includes cars, light-, medium- and heavy-duty trucks and buses, but doesn't mention motorcycles at all. -- de Facto (talk). 14:48, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Stats are always complex because every source usually has a different definition. One way to make all sources more consistent would be to say that there are more than one billion vehicles, not using the exact figure 1.015. If you agree, please go ahead and change it.--Mariordo (talk) 15:15, 25 August 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: I also added Eurostat definition of cars in the corresponding citation, it is actually any passenger vehicle seating less than 10 passengers excluding motorcycles, not just the common "car."--Mariordo (talk) 02:40, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Does the 1 billion include motorcycles? 

message: Does a truck, a battle tank or a train is a motor vehicle? Pano38 (talk) 08:07, 12 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why do you reduce motor vehicle tout road vehicle? 

message: Most dictionaries define motor vehicles to exclude Planes and motorboats and as such I propose we add a mention of this fact alongside the already mentioned exclusion of railroad trains from the definition unless there is some objection.  --108.239.8.149 (talk) 08:46, 19 December 2019 (UTC)
thread_title:  Since motor-driven airplanes and motorboats are generally not considered "motor vehicles" we should mention this in the article 

message: Why 2407:C00:C001:1E57:1:2:339:83AA (talk) 03:00, 19 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why Motor vehicles are best