Talk:Gene Loves Jezebel

message: Hello.  I like and agree with many of the changes that you have made on the GLJ page.  The one error is calling genelovesjezebel.co.uk an official site.  Michael Aston was the victorious party in a civil suit instituted by Jay Aston over trademark rights to the name "Gene Loves Jezebel" and Michael Aston was also the winner of an ICANN arbitration with Jay Aston over the rights to the domain name "genelovesjezebel.com".  Accordingly, it has been conclusively and finally established in two different forums that Michael Aston is the sole and exclusive owner of the trademark and domain name "Gene Loves Jezebel".  The .co.uk site is at best a fan site, not the official one. Ghost 16:11, 11 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Hello. As the article seemed to borrow from a BBC Wales article it was only my "duty" to correct the chart positions. Also, the NPOV stuff from the "KROQ, Top 106.7 Countdown of 198X" made little encyclopedic sense. But this official/unofficial websites stuff... — both claim to be official for the various segments of the band - it's painful (pitiful) - I guess "domain names" and ™ is more complicated. John Peter Aston registered the genelovesjezebel.co.uk during 2000, whereas Michael Aston (Aston Management Group) registered genelovesjezebel.com and genelovesjezebel.net during 1998; genelovesjezebel.org during 2000 and "Round Flat Records" gobbled up genelovesjezebel.info last May; does this mean another court battle? → friedfish 16:58, 11 October 2006 (UTC)

text: Can you provide references please to support your views (on either side of the argument)? If there are reliable sources to support any of these claims or that demonstrate anything currently in the article to be incorrect, please present them, so that we can take the opinion out of the article and base it solely on fact. What can't be disputed is that there are currently two bands performing as "Gene Loves Jezebel", and that they bothe have websites, etc. Thanks.--Michig (talk) 12:51, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Websites 

message: :Sorry 98.220.43.195, you have gone too far with the discography. Please see Wikipedia music notability guide. Notability is the key to adding to Wikipedia; thus far studio albums have been left - but the compilations, live sets, bootlegs are of little notability. You make it appear that Gene Loves Jezebel in all their guises are on a par with The Beatles. Please get a log-in, stop blanking your talk page and try to contribute constructively. The editor has pieced together two opposed and biased views, however as a genuine third-party, your article still pertains to "wikiality"→ friedfish (talk) 09:38, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Why did you remove the "Shaving my neck", "Josephina", etc. singles? I can't see any justification for this as I have a reliable source showing that they were released. Please explain.--Michig (talk) 11:16, 10 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Hi 98.220.43.195, on Wikipedia - constructive criticism is welcome; ranting is not! Please get a log-in! → friedfish (talk) 12:50, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

text: I have restored the singles that were removed as I can't see any reason for them being deleted. "Shaving my neck" was an official release on the label they were signed to (Situation 2). As far as I can tell, "Tangled Up In You" was released on Beggars Banquet, and "Josephina" was an official release on Savage-Arista. I don't have label details for "All The Young Dudes", but I am assuming this was officially released by Michael's GLJ.--Michig (talk) 09:32, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

text: Hi Michig, sorry you've been drawn into this. Agree with comments about "Shaving my neck" (SIT18) and "Tangled Up In You" (BEG249). "Josephina" was released as CD, cassette and vinyl on Savage Records via Arista, though it was released in 1992 and Savage Records were more pay-as-you-go promo label who went bankrupt during Bowie release. No more information on "All The Young Dudes" except it appeared on 2007 Bowie tribute album. Keep up the good work! → friedfish (talk) 12:50, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as I can tell, "All The Young Dudes" was only released, other than on the album, on a promo-only (?) release. I've changed the discography to reflect this, though I'm not sure that promos should really be included in the discography, although it seems it was for sale through Michael's GLJ website (it's still listed as a limited edition release but says Sold Out).--Michig (talk) 13:08, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Discography

message: Hi guys! Been away for a few days but have been thinking about various directions for the Gene Loves Jezebel page to go. One idea would be to split the group history section up into two (or even three) parts. i.e.Early Career from 1980 to 1989/90; that is the really creative period and the time period that the band were successful. This could be followed by a "Parting of ways and brief reunion" period from 1990-1995; then subsequent years with the separate identities of how the band is today. At moment the article skews the relevance of this excellent band towards the more mundane aspects of protracted legal disagreements. Also needed would be a brief biography of Jay Aston - such as date of birth, where grew up, acts contributed to and musical abilities. In addition, care must be taken with releases of records, for example withdrawn releases and promotional releases should not be included unless there is a strong reason to do so. Your ideas would be welcome! → friedfish (talk) 11:58, 18 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Future directions

message: I believe that Michael Aston, the leader of one of the two current Gene Loves Jezebels, is logging in and creating sock puppets all over this article. Some of his sock puppets include Bennysara, Sexydead and Foaming, at least one of which is on the verge of being banned from editing due to disruptive edits, and another of which made bizarre edits referencing Sesame Street characters making out. Is there a way to trace these names back to Mr. Aston's IP address or something, and stop him from hijacking and vandalizing this article? 98.220.43.195 (talk) 01:55, 2 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Michael Aston and his sock puppets 

message: I'm currently working on the article about former Yugoslav heavy metal band Gordi, and according to Discogs (http://www.discogs.com/artist/Slobo+Svrdlan), one of the former Gordi members, Slobodan "Slobo" Svrdlan (also a former Warriors member) is currently a member of Michael Aston's Gene Loves Jezebel. Maybe he is behind one of theese two pseudonyms, Pando or Switch? Can anyone help me? Ostalocutanje (talk) 21:08, 22 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Slobodan Svrdlan

message: Two of my close friends are twins and they have a weird thing called “a bond”. This "bond" can only be compared to touching a hot stove to an outsider. I learned this the hard way, by getting burned. A person CANNOT for whatever reason, take a side. It doesn’t matter how violent their fights are or how justified you may feel by choosing one twin over the other. Warning! You will not be liked by either twin, if you say anything too bad. Jay and Michael Aston probably fought inside their mother’s womb. In the very end, don’t be surprised if you are thrown out of their life because you got involved. Fans! Stay mutual! My friends are female's, but I doubt that makes a difference. Just saying.. ;)Crackofdawn (talk) 03:47, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title: Common Bond Advisor

message: There are a lot of snide remarks desparaging Michael Aston's version of the band throughout the article, most of them in bracets {like this}.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.173.137.210 (talk) 08:00, 3 July 2012 (UTC)
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