Talk:European Free Alliance

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message: Does anybody know why Valdotanian Union was expelled from EFA in 2007? --Checco (talk) 19:20, 29 April 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Nobody knows? --Checco (talk) 07:18, 8 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Basically, because it had ceased to pay its bills and cut off all contacts without formally leaving. --Arskoul (talk) 20:07, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Thank you very much for that information. Was it an expulsion or a suspension? --Checco (talk) 06:19, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Definitely an expulsion, albeit I doubt the Valdotanian Union cared. They had dropped out long before.--Arskoul (talk) 17:53, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Expulsion of Valdotanian Union 

message: Well, I was the official delegate of the UDB at the last congress of EFA, so Iknow a bit of the inner working of the organization. Normally, only rather left-wing can join, the key word being rather. There are clear limits, however. I, as a delegate, would have stormed out in the minute if Vlaams Belang or Lega Nord had joined, not that anybody ever raised the idea. Another pointis that there can be only one member by region, unless the representative of the said region allows it. For instance, we can keep any other breton party from joining.
Now, regionalist parties, when they are regionalist first and left-wing second can drift to the moderate or even not so moderate right wing. That's why the UDB proposed a declaration last year at Bilbao stating that Islamophobia was a kind of racism and therefore unacceptable. It was passed but when the Union for South Tyrol split, the majority decided not to ratify the declaration and was expelled as a consequence--Arskoul (talk) 20:43, 12 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The problem is that, differently from what you think, Lega Nord is not right-wing, while Liga Veneta Repubblica, an EFA members, is a right-wing split from Lega Nord and also Bayern Party is right-wing. Union for South Tyrol has ever been far-right from the beginning (actually, after the split, is more moderate), so why did you welcome it in the party? Very strange. --Checco (talk) 06:14, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

text: However, thank you very much for your edits. --Checco (talk) 06:18, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well I wasn't there for their admission, so I cannot tell, but they were expelled because they refused to condemn islamophobia and stated Europa should based upon "Christian values". That's indeed prety much far right for me. Of course all goes down to what is considered far right. Down here in France we associate this word with the refusal of Third World immigration and intolerance toward minority religions, mostly Islam in practice. If a party is ant-Islam and/or advocate "christian values" it is far right. By the way, from what I have read, Lega Nord pretty much fits this definition, as does Vlaams Belang. I have not heard of any EFA member who does but I may be mistaken Europa is big and information about some party are hard to come by), in this case I would value very much any information on the subject.--Arskoul (talk) 18:16, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Also Christian-democrats defend Christian values. Anyway, Lega Nord is a different, more complex sort of party. --Checco (talk) 18:22, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The message well I hear, my faith alone is weak.  —Nightstallion 19:43, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

text: I updated the article. A check is anyway welcome and also an explanation about PNV. --Checco (talk) 21:34, 13 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I've never heard about the PNV joining, but it might have done it before I was politically active. I will ask people who were around then. Note it would have been around the time the PNV split, so the PNV MEP could have become EA MEP. I will check. The organization section is OK. I specified that the Danish Euroskepitcs were left-wing as there could be a confusion with the Danish People Party.--Arskoul (talk) 20:39, 14 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: EA was founded in 1987 by a split from PNV, but PNV was member of the Greens-EFA group with one MEP (there was another one for EA) in 1999-2004, so it was not around the time PNV split (12 years later!). Maybe PNV simply was accomodated in that group after its explusion from EPP... --Checco (talk) 06:17, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

text: Yes, it was. I got the confirmation from the guy in charge then. Didn't like it at all, by the way.--Arskoul (talk) 04:21, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you know also the exact years when PNV was a member? What don't you like? --Checco (talk) 06:14, 16 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: A few bits of informations

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message: I frankly disagree with this edit by C mon. Even if EFA does not include parties from non-EU member countries, I think that the section about "non-members" should include all the European regional and regionalist parties, even that party from Croatia, because there we are talking about Europe not the EU. It's not a big deal anyway, but I really don't understand that edit and this post is at least a reminder for the future. --Checco (talk) 21:39, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Non-members 

message: Hello. Behind "The Friesen" in the list of members is the flag of the "Provinz Friesland", which lies in the Netherlands. But "The Friesen" is a party in Germany and feels responsible for East Frisia, which lies in Germany. It seems that there is no east frisian flag in the en-wp. What to do now? --62.227.93.184 (talk) 15:50, 23 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag of "Friesland" 

message: Is N-VA still member of EFA? On the one hand, they left the Green-EFA EP-fraction (they joined ECR), on the other hand, the EFA president Eric Defoort is a member of N-VA.----Bancki (talk) 09:20, 8 July 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is N-VA still member of EFA? 

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message: I see this mentioned before, but while I don’t know enough about Italian newspapers to judge the credibility as some others have claimed, the articles all appear to talk about terrorist links (with no explicit use of “far-right”) in the 60s, which is far removed enough to be a bit dubious; moreover the article of the party itself makes no mention of such associations. Since this may have BLP implications, I’m going to invoke WP:BOLD and say that if nobody replies to this within 24 hours I’ll remove the far-right claim. I’ll also crosspost this onto WP Italy, Austria and the STF page itself (eventually). I’ll also be adding an irrelevant source tag to it for the time being.
Editing off-account as User:Fermiboson. If you reply to this, please ping me with the user tag.
119.236.180.209 (talk) 13:33, 19 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: Being far-right does not mean being terrorist! The party has nothing to do with terrorism, but it is surely far-right, according to multiple sources. Just to let you know, generally speaking, I would be very cautious with terms like "far-right" and "far-left" in Wikipedia, but, as of now, those terms are used also for mainstream conservative parties; STF is surely more to the right than many other parties that are described as "far-right" in sources and here in Wikipedia. --Checco (talk) 13:14, 20 September 2023 (UTC)
replies: text: I have no knowledge nor opinion on whether STF is far right; but surely there are going to be better sources that explicitly talk about its modern-day far-rightness that we can put in, if that is the case? Fermiboson (talk) 06:06, 24 September 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Südtiroler Freiheit 

message: @Checco  "La nostra precedente forza sorella, Alliance Valdôtaine (AV), è ormai parte integrante del processo di riunificazione nella rafforzata e rinnovata Union Valdôtaine." Braganza (talk) 14:05, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Ok! I am not fully convinced, as there are no other sources, but I will restore the previous version of the article. Thanks! --Checco (talk) 14:08, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  AV, UV & Mouv appointed a committee for the merger Braganza (talk) 14:13, 24 April 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  Aosta Valley 

message: LSV is mutliethnic at best, if they were an hungarian party they wouldn't have failed in the last parliamentary election Braganza (talk) 20:23, 12 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: Exactly! They represent Vojovodina regionalism, the Hungarian minority and, if you want to add them, other minorities. --Checco (talk) 13:18, 13 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: the hungarian minority doesn't even vote for them Braganza (talk) 05:00, 14 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I am not sure. As far as I know Hungarians split their vote between VMSZ and LSV, and some LSV leaders are ethnic Hungarian. --Checco (talk) 14:48, 14 May 2024 (UTC)

text: I am less conviced by this, but I am not opposed to adding "ethnic Rusyns". --Checco (talk) 13:18, 13 May 2024 (UTC)

text: I agree, indeed I proposed to confirm the status quo and, possibly, add other minorities in the "region / constituency" column. --Checco (talk) 03:31, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text:  you added it Braganza (talk) 12:06, 15 May 2024 (UTC)

text: proposal link it too Ethnic groups in Vojvodina instead (like ethnic minorities in Vojvodina) Braganza (talk) 19:02, 15 May 2024 (UTC)
replies: text: I added it because I believed/believe that it was/is correct. Also, as far as I know, the LSV is stronger in the Hungarian north that in other parts of the region. However, I am open to whatever we will decide through consensus. Adding Ethnic groups in Vojvodina or, better, Ethnic minorities in Vojvodina is OK with me. --Checco (talk) 06:04, 16 May 2024 (UTC)
thread_title:  LSV