Talk:Hula Valley

message: As one of the prime stopover points for Eurasian migrating birds, and a rich and significant local ecosystem, the Hula valley is ecologically significant on a hemispoerical level. surely some mention should be made of this?
I am no expert but will write something brief if nobody better qualified does the job
--213.8.87.25 12:55, 29 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ecological Significance 

message: Agmon is an unofficial word which means "little lake". calling this little lake "lake agmon" is therfore calling him "lake little lake". The place is known as "Agmon ha-Hula" (something like "Hula Little lake"). I don't know how to translate it, but it's deffinately not "Lake Agmon". Idobi1 (talk) 21:00, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Language is a funny thing - it has a life of its own! And it's certainly not a Lego game. So Lake Agmon is very much a valid name in English. If it's good enough for the Israeli Foreign Ministry, as quoted by the Jewish Virtual Library (see https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Society_&_Culture/geo/Hula.html), it should be good enough for Wik. - and for our dear friend Idobi1  :-) ArmindenArminden (talk) 21:14, 22 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Lake Agmon - no such thing 

message: It's the same as the above question, but sharper. ArmindenArminden (talk) 09:42, 24 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Define Hula Valley vs. Lake Hula 

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message: Benny Morris "1948" has a brief account of the May 1948 ethnic cleansing of Arabs from the region by Palmach, pages 159-160. 2600:6C44:437F:D901:3960:6F6B:B94E:68C9 (talk) 02:36, 10 October 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  1948 ethnic cleansing 

message: This article describes boundaries, but could really use a map for those of us who otherwise have to look up all of the boundary landforms.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:644:8B00:2420:606A:2FE5:3BCF:5A38 (talk) 22:17, 15 May 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map please! 

message: The article has "In 1908, the Ottoman government granted a concession to drain the marsh to a French firm, which sold it to Lebanese businessmen."  I don't know where that comes from. The translation printed in the Palestine Gazette started "Javid Bey, Minister of Finance, acting on behalf of the Imperial Ottoman Government, on the one part, and Muhammad Omar Beyhum and Michel Sursock, merchants, of Beirut, on the other." and was dated "June 1330". That date in the Ottoman calendar was in 1914. I'll send you a report with a detailed history. A later document says that Beyhum and Sursock formed a company called the Syro-Ottoman Agricultural Company, which transferred the concession to the Palestine Land Develop­ment Company on Oct 3, 1934. In 1938, the government divided the area into "reserved" and "unreserved" sections. The reserved section was for Arab cultivators. Somewhere there is a map showing the two sections in color but I haven't found it yet. Zerotalk 10:15, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Thanks . It is set out very clearly in W. P. N. Tyler. (1991). The Huleh Lands Issue in Mandatory Palestine, 1920-34. Middle Eastern Studies, 27(3), 343-373. Retrieved March 2, 2021, from http://www.jstor.org/stable/4283445 I think the lead character in the saga was Salim Ali Salam, although nothing in his article at the moment. Onceinawhile (talk) 10:56, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:   Right, it was on my computer already but I missed it. No sign of 1908 or the French firm there, though, so that should be removed if there is no other source. Tyler also published a paper on the later history: The Huleh Concession and Jewish Settlement of the Huleh Valley, 1934-48; Middle Eastern Studies, Vol. 30, No. 4 (Oct., 1994), pp. 826-859. I see the reserved/unreserved division is on a map there, but not the pretty red and blue map that the archives speak of. Zerotalk 13:23, 2 March 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ottoman concession 

message: Most paragraphs here reflect this fundamental problem: "Article name", "Where is the northern boundary?", "Define Hula Valley vs. Lake Hula", "Map please!".
NO DEFINITION: Geographical/hydrological vs. geological p.o.v.? No clear boundaries. No map.
How close does it correlate to the expanse of the Hula Lake (before it being dried up)? Or is it synonymous to "upper Jordan River course/valley"?
Until this fundamental issue is addressed, the article is of minimal use at best, confusing at worst. Arminden (talk) 16:42, 14 November 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  We still don't know what we're talking about!