Talk:Ajax framework

message: CleanAjax javascript framework is listed on the page despite the fact that it's not mentioned on the ajaxian survey.
As the original author of this page said, this is not a link farm. I´ve removed this link some times but they keep putting it back always.
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Wikipedia is not property of Ajaxian or anyone. It's a place for free information. Clean AJAX is a valid Ajax framework and deserves to be listed here, like many other projects.
And just to keep things clear over here, Mootools is also not listed on the survey, but there isn't anyone removing its link from the article. And finally there are the Others option present on the mentioned survey, that corresponds to 21.8%.
Like Clean AJAX, there are many other good and valid projects that are suferring discrimination, by people interested in control Wikipedia content. It is really a shame.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 200.174.44.133 (talk) 11:02, 14 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Clean Ajax Framework

message: The link to the Pyjamas framework is being redirected to an article about clothing. Would someone authoritative either fix the link or get rid of it? John Roth
The official site is http://pyjamas.pyworks.org/ but perhaps an article should be created for it.
:no the official site is not pyjamas.pyworks.org, it's http://pyjs.org and yes i've created a page for it, and stayed clear of the wiki nazis who decided it wasn't ok to create it.  Pyjamas (software). Lkcl (talk) 17:19, 18 March 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: bad link to Pyjamas framework

message: To list frameworks for each technology seem logical, and should include at least one classic ASP framework... Amikael 05:41, 06 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: And Python? 65.19.151.114 03:29, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: The goal of this page is to explain what is an Ajax Framework, what users can expect from it... No need to list all available frameworks, some examples are sufficient. Booles 13:28, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: at least one ASP framework

message: Should this page be named Ajax framework or Ajax frameworks?  --John Seward 01:54, 10' June 2006 (UTC)
:Ajax frameworks (plural) instates to link to various frameworks around: not the goal. The name must remain Ajax framework. Alcalazar 09:51, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Page title 

message: I don't know that very much. Is it JavaScript? Alcalazar 09:53, 15 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Cold fusion

message: As the creator of this article, I must remind that the title is: "Ajax Framework", not "Ajax Frameworks". </br>
This page is absolutely not intended to link all frameworks existing, create your own page if this is what you want. 
It is permitted to speak about specific framework, providing informations are given
about it, adding just a link is not desired. </br>
I shall remove all links without information or comparison with other framework, for now... Booles 13:35, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Definitively not a farm link

message: Even if it is open source, this is not the principle of this page to add a link to any AJAX framework around.
Your link is acceptable if:
* Your product is notable.
* Your product is described. User knows why to use it.
* Your product is compared with other ones. Not for quality (what is quality?) but for features, environment, etc...
This article must remain informative. 
About JsRia, I can't get the source. Booles 12:36, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: About Zaxas / JsRia

message: Looks like this topic was supposed to be point 2.3... But it's not in the "Contents" box, the title line isn't properly formatted and there are a bunch of empty lines in the first paragraph! (fixed now, thanks!)
There's no balance to this section, either.  It looks like half of a compare/contrast between server-side frameworks and frameworks which are based purely in the client.  Some questions which might be considered here:
* Why would someone choose a server-side framework instead of a client-side framework, given the apparent benefits of client-side frameworks over server-side frameworks?
* What are some examples of each?  Links to their websites would be good.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by Conortodd (talk • contribs) 19:47, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Server-driven Ajax frameworks" 

message: Can any one tell me who invented AJAX??  Either Microsoft.. or Sun Microsystems  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 137.101.40.2 (talk) 18:15, August 29, 2007 (UTC) 
:XMLHTTP was invented by Microsoft. Ajax is a term coined by J.J. Garrett. It is a set of standards: JavaScript, CSS, DOM, HTML... Who invented the technologies? JavaScript by Netscape, HTML comes from SGML invented by IBM, the inventors are numerous! Macaldo 10:29, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Who Invented AJAX? 

message: The list of "JavaScript" frameworks was based on results of a survey by Ajaxian.  I've changed this into a table showing usage percent and respondent count, partly in the hope that the bright light of statistics might scare off less notable frameworks and reduce the link-farm aspect of this page ;-)
However... the Ajaxian survey wasn't restricted to JavaScript; it includes Struts (Java), Atlas (Dot Net) and many others.  All of these could broadly be described as JavaScript, since AJAX frameworks more or less by definition use JavaScript on the client-side.  Would it worth bringing all the frameworks on this page into the list, and adding a column for server-side language (if applicable)?  Again, this might help reduce the link-farmage.
203.110.13.5 (talk) 00:25, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Pretty work. Since this page is clearly intended to explain what an Ajax framework is, just some links to open source libraries are useful. The criterion is not even in notability but in readability and pedagogy instead. Macaldo (talk) 14:12, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Table for JavaScript frameworks 

message: I've created a new article at List of Ajax frameworks; I've left the list on this page for the moment, however.  I've created a proposed new version of this article at User:This flag once was red/Sandbox.  Can we now delete the list cruft from this article and focus back on its original purpose?
 This flag once was red  09:32, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: I have sadly reduced the list and added a link to List of Ajax frameworks. For a complete removal, the discussion is open. Macaldo (talk) 11:45, 31 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  List of Ajax frameworks 

message: Apart from the list, this article has contained primarily original research – material based on the author's knowledge, rather than on material found in reliable sources. I removed that content in this article, and you can find it . If I misread the situation this and you can actually find citations, please add citations and restore the related content. If not, please expand the article using material in reliable sources. --Pnm (talk) 18:14, 8 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removed unreferenced OR