Talk:Caucasus Emirate

message: where did this idea come from, how do you go from republic to emirate? No seriously this makes no sence, but neither did the original as well--Jakezing (talk) 03:37, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Where 

message: Which is more powerful, the Caucasus Republic or the Chechen Republic of Ichkeria? The Emirate has much more ambitious territorial claims, but are they a paper government with most Chechen rebels siding with the ChRI, have they superseded the ChRI almost entirely, or are they somewhere in between? I'm trying to get a sense of which one's thoughts on Georgia are more important -- I get the impression that it's the Emirate, given that they and not the ChRI are offering to send troops to Georgia on the NATO side. ExOttoyuhr (talk) 15:02, 18 August 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The emirate at the moment has most loyalty. Grey Fox-9589 (talk) 19:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Level of influence relative to the ChRI? 

message: A caucasian emirate already existed during the Russian civil war, its leader was uzun haji, and it was recognized by Georgia and Azerbaijan. Umarov's efforts seem merely an attempt to revive this emirate. This emirate needs an article, but I'm not sure if there should be two seperate articles, or simply one, which speaks of the attempt at revival. Grey Fox-9589 (talk) 19:34, 7 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  1920 emirate 

message: This article talks about the emirate as declared by Umarov, but what is its area of control (if any) within the claimed territory? --Illythr (talk) 22:12, 25 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The mountain areas (and currently large parts of Ingushetia), but it's not about control, it's their aim (they consider this territory occupied). Grey Fox (talk) 07:37, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well, the aim of the Republic of China is much father then its grasp as well, but its area of control, international recognition, state institutions and other such things are clearly defined. This one state seems to exist only in the minds of its proponents, having no clearly defined, well, anyting. The lead should mention this explicitly. --Illythr (talk) 16:49, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Well yes I proposed something above. This situation could be compared to for example Tibet as visioned by the Tibetan government in exile. They don't have control over the territory either. Grey Fox (talk) 18:01, 28 November 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Any real control?

message: The Arabic words in the infobox do not display properly in Firefox.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 83.20.5.34 (talk) 09:58, 14 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Arabic script 

message: According to the statement  there are no exact borders of Caucasus Emirate, even as proclaimed borders, because "I don’t think that it is necessary to draw the borders of the Caucasus Emirate." according to the statement of Dokka Umarov. Also he said that "Secondly, after expelling the kuffar we must reconquer all historical lands of Muslims, and these borders are beyond the boundaries of Caucasus." That is why we should not draw the borders of Emirate as the borders of the country, we should not use the country infobox, because there are no such borders even as proclaimed borders, we should not create the borders of this "state" instead of its founders.--Yuriy Kolodin (talk) 00:23, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: He made many different claims about this. According to one of them, the boundaries correspond to Sheikh Uzun Haji’s emirate state . According to another, they correspond to Dagestan, Chechnya, Ingushetia, Ossetia, the Nogay steppe and the combined areas of Kabardino-Balkana and Karachay-Cherkessia .Biophys (talk) 16:10, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  We do not have to use country infobox 

message: What is this BS as title for the emirate map: "Territory of Jihad against infidels announced by Dokka Umarov"? If there are any infidels on this earth it is them who do not believe in Christ the Savior. Somebody disagrees - let's carry it out on the battle field, not in Wikipedia. This title must be replaced by something neutral.  Hoppelpoppel (talk) 18:00, 29 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Map title 

message: Does it even mention the split that occured? No. That's pretty important, because the Gakayev/Vadalov faction actually rejected the concept of a pan-Caucasian state and various other policies of the Emirate. --Yalens (talk) 15:46, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yeah, I tagged it as outdated. I'd also propose to make the date of creation of the Emirate as the end of the Second Chechen War, and start of the Insurgency in the North Caucasus (and not some Putin/Medvedev proclamation of an "end" to the "counter-terrorist operation in Chechnya" after almost a decade so a "new" conflict between the same sides would supposedly begin on the very same day(???), which is just silly but currenly Wikipedia is suggesting just this). Oh well. Guess I'll be bold and I'll do just this myself. --Asperchu (talk) 16:29, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: I removed the obsolete tag because the Chechen commanders schism ended up with them reunifying under Umurov's leadership in mid 2011 Pmolloy291 (talk) 07:41, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Article is increasingly obselete 

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replies: text: Here you go. --illythr (talk) 13:14, 1 January 2014 (UTC)
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message: Currently, the infobox contains '|next= Wilayat Qawqaz (Only Defectors)' which is used to denote 'if the faction transformed into another one, the name of that faction' per Template:Infobox_war_faction. While the qualifier '(Only Defectors)' is used, the inclusion of the field is still inappropriate so long as the Caucasus Emirate continues to be active and the majority of its members remain with the group. Furthermore, the field is not used on the pages of other groups that have similarly had defections in the recent past such as Jaish al-Muhajireen wal-Ansar, al-Nusra Front and Tehrik-i-Taliban Pakistan. The recent defections are noted in a separate section within the body of the article. --Credema (talk) 07:39, 11 September 2015 (UTC)
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message: I noticed that in the right-hand side infobox Georgia is listed under allies as well as opponents. If this isn't a mistake there should be at least some form of clarification. --Dutchy45 (talk) 18:08, 15 July 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Georgia both ally and opponent? 

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message: I fixed a few things. In particular, the successor state of Chechen Republic of Ichkeria is simply modern-day Chechnya, not the Caucasus Emirate. My very best wishes (talk) 16:19, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
thread_title: Fixed

message: So this country is mentioned as a belligerent in the Russian Civil War  which occurred between 1917-1923 officially. (It seems to have a smilie face for a flag.)  The article here  makes no mention of time-travel, and the dates are fairly recent.  So that leaves room for a typo or more likely some sort of nationalist spam, or maybe something else.  Any ideas? Know Einstein (talk) 10:12, 18 December 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Clarification needed on the Caucasus Emirate role in the Russian Civil War (time-travel? error? spam?)