Talk:Basques/Archive 3

message: Is haizkolaritza what is shown several times in Julio Medem's film Vacas? -- Jmabel | Talk 06:37, Nov 9, 2004 (UTC)
:Where have you found this word? I've been searching in Basque language online dictionaries and it didn't appear. I believe that surely the sufix -tza is bat a declination case of "aizkolari", without -h. Aizkolaritza is the sport of axe cut, and it appears in Vacas if I'm right. There is the famous scene where the axe is thrown away, a scene that he included also in his last work La Pelota Vasca. The root word is "aizkolari", which refers to the sporter man. Surely you know yet that "aizkora" is one of those Basque words with ethimological root on "stone", as other iron tools.Idiazabal 00:13, 10 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Haizkolaritza'' 

message: I'm wondering about the appropriateness of the inclusion of this in :Category:Pre-Indo-Europeans. All of the other articles in that category are specifically about very ancient peoples, not ones that persist into the present time. Also, I don't believe that it is certain that the Basques were in Europe before the Indo-Europeans: it's likely enough, but at least one theory is that they came at the same time, no? -- Jmabel | Talk 17:50, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)
:this category is bogus anyway! It perpetuates the false impression of straightforward correlation of historical linguistics and archaeology. the issues involved are far complex to allow simple categorization. I suggest the Category is suggested for deletion (but can't be bothered to do it myself, right now) dab (ᛏ) 18:34, 11 Feb 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Category:Pre-Indo-Europeans 

message: Vascongado is not "Basque".
From Latin vasconicatus ("Vasconified"), it is reserved for the inhabitants of the Provincias Vascongadas, leaving out Navarre and the French Basque Country.
--Error 23:31, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Vascongados

message: Are you sure that the Roman pun was on Aquitanians? I thought it was an Iberian thing. I even thought it was from some Martial epigram, but Google gives no authors. --Error 23:31, 7 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: The pun was intended both for Aquitanians and Iberians, who both pronounced "v" the same as "b". Of course in Spain people think it refers only to Iberians, and in France people think it refers only to Aquitanians! However, here, since we are talking about Basque people, I used the pun in an Aquitanian context, not an Iberian one. Hardouin 00:35, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)

text: Basque basoko is a borrowing from medieval latin buscus, it is not a native Basque word. Hardouin 00:35, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: It should be baso. -ko is your standard genitive for places. Have you checked the etimology of baso? --Error 01:32, 8 Apr 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Etimology

message: Jentilak, previously explained as "Gentiles" is now explained as "Giants". The change was anonymous and without edit summary. I don't know more than about a hundred semi-random words of Basque, so I have no idea whether this was a correction or vandalism. -- Jmabel | Talk 00:24, Apr 22, 2005 (UTC)
:It's both. Jentilak are a Basque variety of pre-Christian ("Gentile") Giants. --Error 22:18, 27 May 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  ''Jentilak'' 

message: Strabo wrote in Greek: the reference to the Latin ‘vascones’ is confusing here and should be moved or removed.  Mark O'Sullivan 09:53, 20 July 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Origin of the Basques

message: The mediaeval section still needs more sorting out: there isn't quite a proper chronological sequence or consistency, and there is the wrong kind of emphasis given to Roncesvalles, which was a trivial skirmish in historical terms, though certainly meriting mention because of the Chanson de Roland.  Moreover, "Only a small number of Roman traders would have come there" is clearly inconsistent with "At the same time, the Basques lost their lifestyle, which was dependent on trade with the Roman Empire".  I shall give some time to this.  Mark O'Sullivan 18:26, 2 August 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Roman and mediaeval times