Talk:Howard County Public School System

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message: I have added back the information table. I have removed the contact details, which were directory stuff, but the rest consists of useful, encyclopaedic facts and is quite normal fare for school district pages. It should also be noted that we merge nn schools to the district and thus including basic details on those schools is a reasonable merge compromise. TerriersFan (talk) 23:45, 25 July 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: TerriersFan, according to WP:EL, "External links should not normally be used in the body of an article; this applies to list articles as well." I'll remove the links. PhilKnight (talk) 00:22, 26 July 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Information table 

message: I read the initial introduction paragraph to the article and found the note about AP scores to be a bit misleading.  Currently, it states, "It gets high percentages at all levels of the Maryland School Assessments,[1] and is second only to Montgomery County in percentage of seniors scoring well on Advanced Placement exams.[2] Forbes magazine rated Howard County as one of the ten most cost-efficient school systems in the USA.[3]"  
The major issue is the Baltimore Sun article states, "in Howard, nearly one in three passed", then states "in Montgomery, 46 percent of last year's graduates had gotten a score of 3 or better on at least one AP exam - a countywide average that beat all but a few of the schools in the Baltimore region".  The problem with this comparison is that it's a misnomer, one can't compare a supposed proportion to a percentage.  The proportion used in the article is not defined and not referenced in the article.  
If one is looking for a statistic to define Howard County schools, then they should go to http://www.real-estate-columbia.com/schools.shtml and http://www.homes-mont-county-md.com/SAT.shtml.  The former lists the SAT scores of all Howard County schools, while the latter lists the scores for all Montgomery County schools.  Doing a quick average of the values, we find that Mo. Co. scores an average SAT score for all its high schools of 1075, 24,727/23; while Ho. Co. scores an average SAT score for all of its high schools of 1087, 11966/11.  
Mrminux (talk) 14:20, 2 December 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  AP Scores 

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: Is this a prank? There is such important historical information on this subject. Bring it back!  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.179.35.162 (talk) 13:42, 21 December 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Why was the entire page deleted?!  

message: Information to be added or removed: 
1960s
In 1962, Senator Frank E. Shipley bypassed the state school board nominating commission recommendation of Fred Schoenbrodt, and installed Clifford Y. Stephens after he agreed to Senator Shipley's request that he serve on the board.[38] The school board proposes an ambitious $3 million expansion of Howard High, and administration buildings funded by a 6% increase in property taxes for anticipated growth.[39] In October 1963, High's of Baltimore, Inc., was indicted for fixing milk prices. At a hearing on the matter, High's of Baltimore, Inc., was represented by vice-president C.Y. Stephens and Secretary-Treasurer Clyde Shugart,  Mr. Stephens and Mr. Shugart were not named as having been indicted personally. It is unknown whether the action was civil or criminal in nature. The outcome of this indictment is also unknown; there is no evidence that High's of Baltimore, Inc., was found guilty or not guilty of price-fixing, nor if there was a plea arrangement, nor if any penalty was ever assessed. Mr. Stephens dies soon after in an automobile crash in November 1963.[40][41] 
    Explanation of issue: 
This article states that C.Y. Stephens was indicted for price fixing of milk, citing an article https://www.newspapers.com/image/376321763/ in the Baltimore Sun which alleges that Wilton Farms and 7 other dairies were involved in price fixing. It appears from the article that certain dairies were indicted for price fixing, but does not state that any individuals were indicted. It may be inferred from Sun article that High's of Baltimore, Inc., was one of the indicted dairies, and that C.Y. Stephens, vice-president and Clyde Shugart, secretary-treasurer, appeared on behalf of the corporation High's of Baltimore, Inc., but the statement that Mr. Stephens was personally indicted is not supported in any way by the Sun article. It is thus completely wrong to state in the Wikipedia article that Mr. Stephens was indicted, when there is no support for this statement. Mr. Stephens and Mr. Shugart were corporate officers appearing on behalf of the indicted corporation and nothing more. In addition, the Sun article does not say whether the action was a civil or a criminal matter, nor does it state what the outcome of the indictment was. No reference is made to any further court proceedings. For all the author knows, the indictment may have been dismissed for lack of evidence or some other reasonable cause.
I am Mr. Stephens son. I was alive and 13 years old in October 1963. I would have known if my father had been indicted personally, because my mother would have reacted very strongly and fearfully had my father been facing criminal charges. My mother died in January 2000 and is unavailable for comment. I have discussed this issue with my sister, who was 25 in October 1963, and she states that my father was never personally indicted, as the Wikipedia article alleges. In addition, my father was influential in getting government regulations rescinded which fixed milk prices at artificially high levels; he testified before at least one state legislature in an effort to remove such regulations, and was successful in getting those regulations removed.
In short, accusing someone of criminal charges is highly inflammatory and insulting to the memory of that person, especially when that person cannot appear to defend himself. It is also highly disturbing to members of his family who still survive. Basing such a charge on an extremely vague newspaper article is inadequate support to make such an allegation, when the best evidence of such an indictment is missing - a link to the actual indictment, not a reporters interpretation of that indictment - and failing to provide information on whether the corporation so indicted was ultimately found non-guilty or guilty, is irresponsible reporting which should not be permitted to remain on Wikipedia.
The Wikipedia article wrongly states that C.Y. Stephens was indicted, when the Sun article clearly states that High's of Baltimore, Inc. was the indicted party, nd not any individuals. The Wikipedia article is also substantially incomplete because it fails to provide significant facts about the outcome of such charges. 
As such, I request that the author remove the language stating that C.Y. Stephens was indicted. The author may infer that High's of Baltimore, Inc. was indicted, but should also state that there is no evidence of the outcome of the indictment, and should also state that High's of Baltimore, Inc., may have been found not-guilty of the charge. I also request that the statement be modified in any other Wikipedia articles the author may have written making the same unfounded and unsupported allegation.
While Wikipedia has rules concerning conflicts of interest, I believe that my analysis of the author's erroneous statement about C.Y. Stephens is correct from a reasonable and objective analysis, and therefore should be honored. The Sun article simply does not support the allegation made by the author.
    References supporting change: Personal knowledge of persons living at the time and interviewed by Jeffrey Stephens.
JStephs1950 (talk) 21:47, 9 June 2019 (UTC)
thread_title: Some proposed changes

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# The requested prose suggests that it is unknown whether the claims involving this court case were civil or criminal in nature. Price fixing in 1963, as it still is today, is prosecuted as a criminal violation under the Sherman Antitrust Act of 1890.
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thread_title: Reply 09-JUN-2019

message: Is this massive history section necessary; do we care about the minutiae of who was hired when? The names mentioned are largely non-notable. It just seems like a huge, huge amount of trivia unlike what we usually keep.
If it is kept, I'd love for someone (not me!) to go through it and fix the freaking verb tense, among many other errors. Thanks. Jessicapierce (talk) 23:39, 21 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Necessary content? 

message: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilford_Park_High_School
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https://gphs.hcpss.org/news/2023/08/first-week-school-information TANCLAP! (talk) 19:38, 28 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Add Guilford_Park_High_School