Talk:Bark (botany)

message: I heard that 2 trees don't have bark.DaveDodgy (talk) 04:45, 24 April 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Which trees don't have bark? 

message: I was going to ask about the suspiciously poetic ("Some trees are big, some trees are small'?) statement that all trees have bark except for poplar, ash, and maple.  Those three certainly have something that appears to be bark.  Besides, the Wikipedia articles on all three of these groups discuss their bark at least to some extent.
On digging back I find that this idea comes from an unattributed quote that someone wanted to insert several years ago.  That person had a habit of terming it "vandalism" if anyone removed the quote as being unsourced, irrelevant, and possibly nonsense.  Now, that person has put this little factoid back in the body, instead of as a quote.
It just seems too unlikely, especially considering the source; a statement like that needs some backing up somehow.  I almost never make substantial edits, but in this case I feel quite comfortable removing it.  If someone can back up the statement as factual, I'd be interested in seeing that. 140.147.236.194 (talk) 21:11, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Further on this--I've just noticed that this article has a photograph of Japanese Maple Bark.  That would seem to contradict the statement in question.  If someone has some good authority that says that what appears to be bark on poplars, ashes, and maples is something other than bark, let's hear it.    140.147.236.194 (talk) 21:16, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Poplar, ash, and maple bark? 

message: The discussion on the three trees whose bark is apparently "not bark" notwithstanding ...
... I once read on botanical website (which I can't find now) that the "bark" on palm trees is technically something else, not bark.  Can anyone shed any light on this?  I came to this article hoping to find something on that.   140.147.236.194 (talk) 21:28, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  And "bark" on palm trees 

message: Bark is formed from the layer of dividing mitotic cells known as the cork cambium. Dicotyledon trees have a bark or cork layer, especially, ash, maple, etc. The way that the bark develops differs, some trees developing deeply creviced bark, thick and smooth, etc. They are all bark though. Monocotyledons have a very different plant structure, being a group that includes the grasses, bamboo, etc. The protective layer acts as bark, however it is structurally different from 'true' bark. Rosser (talk) 17:48, 14 May 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is this meant, at least in part, to answer my question about palm trees?  I have a vague idea that palm trees are monocotyledons--although I get very confused without looking it all up.  140.147.236.194 (talk) 13:54, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bark 

message: I made some changes in the first paragraph of the Botanical description section.  It seemed to me that the discussion of the cambium layers and their functions was not clear regarding the two different cambiums and their functions.  I sorted it out for myself from other Wikipedia articles.  And I made some changes to sort out Cork cambium from Vascular cambium.
Since I only sorted out what I think experts were trying to say, I'd appreciate it if someone more knowledgeable would look it over and see if I've got it right.  140.147.236.194 (talk) 13:00, 26 May 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  The two cambiums--made some changes for clarity?? 

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message: Bark-galling appears to be too short of a topic to sustain an article, but could be merged here. BD2412 T 03:45, 9 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed.  Confusingly, Gall is also a different phenomenon also referred to as 'galling'.  I suggest merging Bark-galling into Bark with a rearrangement of the Bark subheadings, and a one-sentence link from Gall to that section. Darkskysunflowers (talk) 22:02, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
replies: text: DONE: Merged & redirected Bark-galling, and did some initial rearrangement of content in Bark.  There is more to do in that respect and also with regards to referencing. Darkskysunflowers (talk) 23:06, 17 September 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Proposed merge from [[Bark-galling]]