Talk:Dead pool

message: Does anyone object to a merger into dead pool?  of Deathpool into this article?  If not, I will attempt the merge. TMS63112 01:03, 10 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Proposed merger

message: Would all users please stop the edit war by reverting each others changes re: the death list website.  Please discuss the issues here and let's come to a consensus about the best way to incorporate this information in the article.  Thank you.  TMS63112 19:42, 14 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I have read that coverage, and I disagree. Merely being covered once or twice does not make something notable, that falls into human interest genre of coverage and there are thousands of individuals and events in such stories every day which nobody would consider notable other than fleetingly. The proof is in the pudding, in this case, the web traffic, which is quite quantifiable and in this case truly negligible. The fact is, very few people visit that site. Quatloo 02:32, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: OK, having read the comments and looked at the article history, let me try to summarize everyone's positions, in the hope of reaching a compromise everyone can live with.  In Eternum, RMHED, and Gretnagod were proponents of keeping the separate Death List entry.  After the AfD debate resulted in a merge, they have edited the article to include a separate section tilted "Dead pool variant" talking about the deathlist.net site.  Their position seems to be that the site is sufficinetly notable and different from a "traditional" dead pool that it needs a separate section.  They also note press coverage that the site has received as indicative of its notability.  User Quatloo argues that the site is not particularly notable due to its low web traffic, and that a couple of press mentions do not warrant giving the site a separate section in the article.  S/he does not object to an external link to the site, but would prefer the site not be mentioned in the body of the text.  S/he also objects to some of the phrasing the other users have proposed.  As a compromise position, s/he has written a brief description of the deathlist site for inclusion in the body of the text, without giving it a section.  Have I fairly summarized everyone's positions?  TMS63112 16:19, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

text: Thank you all for posting your thoughts here.  I want to point out that Wikipedia is not a democracy.  If two or more editors disagree about the content of an article, it should be resolved through discussion and an attempt to reach a consensus, rather than a "vote" and majority rules.  I would ask that everyone assume good faith, and avoid questioning the motives of other editors.  This can feel like a personal attack, and does not help us reach consensus.  Let's focus our attention on improving this article, and not get distracted by the many other aricles in Wikipedia that need attention.  I believe both the shorter paragraph Quatloo has agreed to support and the full section the other editors wish to insert would constitute a "merge" as agreed in the AfD discussion.  I think the key issue is whether giving deathlist.net a separate section in the article gives undue weight to that one website.  To help us answer that question, can editors provide links to news references other than the two cited in the article that help support the notability of the site?  Thank you all again for participating in this discussion.  TMS63112 19:54, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: The Alexa rank of the site in question is 105,860. Even a rank of half that would not make the site notable. I have already conceded that it can have a paragraph, a recognition of notability that it does not truly deserve. Wikipedia is not a place for vanity information about websites. If that were the case there would be 105,000 articles on them. Furthermore there is nothing specifically notable about what Death List actually is. It has a dead pool -- there are hundreds of these. The notability claim seems to rest on the fact that it has forums -- which is even less notable. Quatloo 20:16, 15 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: It is a deadpool by the definition of this article. Quatloo 21:48, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

text:  Forgot to sign in Canadian Paul 22:47, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

text: If something lives only on the web, as Death List does, it can be compared to other websites using Alexa. For things that live outside the web -- such as personalities, corporations, real-world events, etc. this is not a valid measure. Often this is because pre-web history is under-represented on the web, and historical figures will appear fewer times mentioned than if they were presently alive. But Death List is just a webforum and as such it is very easy to establish its lack of notability. Quatloo 03:36, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Unsurprisingly, I disagree with this reasoning. If the only other entries in Wikipedia were websites, then I would accept this measurement as sufficient, as there would then be across-the-board standards. However, you cannot make use of such an exlusive measuring system when other entries in Wikipedia are not quantifiable thus. Alexa denotes notability as compared to other websites only. Furthermore, as with most quantitative analysis, Alexa talks only in numbers: it does not enable an examination of who visitors to the website are. For example, which is more "notable": a website visited by 100,000 teens, in passing, as they visit hundred of other websites each night, or a website visited by 1000 top-ranking government officials and journalists, who visit that website exclusively? (Obviously, I'm not at all suggesting that either is the case with regard to the DeathList, I'm merely making a general point.) This is the problem with quantitative research; the number are just that: only numbers. They do not attest to the quality or value of what is being quantified. Therefore, although I grant that the Alexa measurement may been seen as one indicator it is not enough, in this setting, upon which to base decisions. --In eternum+ 17:35, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Please stop the edit war 

message: I was just trying to figure out why a video arcade game that as far as I know has no references to a "dead pool" would be linked from here.
Unless there is a reason I think it should be removed. Lazarus Plus
Done.70.241.5.134 01:31, 3 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: dead pool is one of the arenas in mortal kombat -- it's a giant acid pool where you could knock people in so they melt and die. good times. aside from the name, i agree it is not related to this article. --dan (talk) 20:42, 18 August 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mortal Kombat II? 

message: Are external links to something that is part of the article out of place? I'm amazed--Sully 18:24, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  External link to deathlist 

message: And the solution to the above is to remove it altogether, is this the consensus view now or just the view of the person(s?) who's deleted it?--Sully 21:43, 20 February 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Gonna re-add it. No need for an edit war.--h i s   s p a c e   r e s e a r c h 16:12, 15 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Removal of Deathlist 

message: This isn't even so much as cross-referenced to assassination politics.  The two should probably just be merged. — SMcCandlish [talk] [cont]  ‹(-¿-)› 14:14, 24 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Major omission; merge? 

message: Do we really need those links to random death pool games? None of them seems particularly noteworthy to me. I'll remove them in a couple of days unless there is well-founded objection. -- Nils Jeppe (talk) 22:01, 12 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  They're spam. Quatloo (talk) 20:04, 13 January 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Agreed. I've removed most of the links. -Phoenixrod (talk) 00:02, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Ext links? 

message: Is the following serious or a joke? "In most pools, killing the celebrity in question is considered cheating and results in the killer's immediate disqualification from the pool, with the notable exception of assassination markets." CopaceticThought (talk) 22:13, 25 June 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this sentence meant to be serious? 

message: It is in the actual "SPIEGEL" (Number 6 of 2012, "Die gestresste Seele") on site 60 ("Zynisches Investment").
However, here is another source for it (in german aswell).
I only found this english site about this:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/02/08/1062831/-You-die-I-win-Deutsche-Bank-bets-on-Americans-life-expectancy
However, here is a little bit more serious page in german about it, also you find many newspages if you google for "db life kompass 3".
http://www.db-kompass-anlegerschutz.de/life_3_fond.html
--91.49.157.123 (talk) 18:11, 10 February 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: "Deutsche Bank" actually made something like this