Talk:Mast radiator

message: So there's nothing about this article that is really specific to a "mast" vs. a "tower" (in the sense that the European editors care about) antenna structure.  Perhaps the name should be changed to reflect this?  (I don't think there is any reason for a "tower radiator" article to exist, since it would contain exactly the same content, and as I understand it, the Europeans would call any self-supporting structure a "tower" rather than a "mast".  In AmE usage, they are all towers, and a mast is something different, which discussion we've had several times before on other articles.)  121a0012 (talk) 19:38, 23 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: What is the European usage?  And could you give links to the other discussions you mentioned on the subject?  Thanks. --ChetvornoTALK 01:05, 24 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: The European usage is the one that this article reflects, calling these things "masts" if they have guy wires and "towers" otherwise, whereas in my dialect a "mast" is a light antenna-support structure attached to another building (or vehicle) and the things described in this article are all "towers" regardless of whether they are self-supporting or not.  I don't have a link to the other discussions, but you should be able to find it on the talk pages for one of the related articles (perhaps either "mast" or "tower", or maybe "broadcasting masts and towers" if there is such an article).  Sorry I can't be more specific; it was a long time ago and I pretty much gave up arguing with the Brits.  121a0012 (talk) 05:09, 24 December 2012 (UTC)

text: There's some discussion of the terminology at Radio_masts_and_towers#Mast_or_tower.3F. It attempts to clarify the different usage in different countries. Is it correct and complete? If not, perhaps that needs fixing first. This article uses BrE but maybe AmE differences need explanding on. I don't think the article name should be moved.--Harumphy (talk) 11:31, 26 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: My point was that the name of this article specifies a specific sort of structure (in the BrE usage), but everything it says applies equally to the other sort, so the name might not be appropriate.  (Additionally, the name isn't one that is likely to be guessed by AmE speakers, but I don't expect that this article is a significant target for direct lookup in the search box anyway.)  121a0012 (talk) 01:30, 27 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Fair enough. Do you have a suggestion for a better article name?--Harumphy (talk) 09:58, 28 December 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: Unfortunately, no.  Even the term "radiator" seems a bit dated, albeit accurate and dialectically neutral.  (Advertisements in Broadcasting back in the 1930s did call them "radiators" or more specifically "vertical radiators", but that seems just as obscure as "mast radiator".  121a0012 (talk) 03:52, 30 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Name 

message: Changed the term "aerial" to "antenna" and re-interpreted the language to what I hope is a clearer form.  I also removed the mention of elevated dipole arrays since, while they may be anti-fade, they aren't mast radiators.  
The link to L-network is empty.  The "L-pad" entry is equivalent and I'll change it if there are no objections.
Rjwarg (talk) 22:27, 25 December 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: Anti-fade