Talk:James Prescott Joule

message: I have  a question about the pronunciation of the name Joule. During my studies in physics Joule was pronounced like owl, bowl, fowl. Recently I only hear pronunciations like fool, tool. I'm interested to know how the name of Joule was pronounced and whether Joule as unit of energy is pronounced the same. 130.89.221.222 22:30, 4 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: The pronunciation of the name was not really very standardized during Joule's lifetime. There was even a little rhyming ad for the family's brewery that referred to the various possible pronunciations. I believe all physicists today pronounce it to rhyme with fool.--Bcrowell 06:00, 5 Nov 2004 (UTC)
replies: text: I have added a trivia section that mentions this and links to a page with the (presumable) brewery's advertisement. But maybe we can simply add the same link in a footnote to the sentence that says the unit name is pronounced to rhyme with "tool"? What do you think? BTW, is the pronunciation of the unit name officially decided or is it just existing practice?--Gennaro Prota 20:39, 13 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: According to the OED, "it is almst certain that J. P. Joule (and some at least of his relatives)" used the pronunciation that rhymes with tool, although some people named Joule rhyme with foul and some with bowl. The OED cites a Nature article from 1943. So "jool" it is.--Rallette 11:37, 8 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation 

message: This website  claims that J.P. Joule was born in his families Salford Brewery.  Does this source meet a high enough standard to be included?  Quasilogic 12:56, 17 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Birth place 

message: Not sure what 'shown to study' means. JMK 17:45, 17 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Second paragraph

message: The formula for the mechanical equivalent of heat seems to come out of nowhere and to be "orphaned" with little explanation.  Also, my guess is that the "1 cal" is inappropriate since Joule probably used different units.  Perhaps someone can clear this up, if only the editing.  I may try if I can get time. - Astrochemist 01:22, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: For me, this isn't really useful where it sits. Astrochemist is right that Joule wouldn't have used cal but neither would a modern physicist. My vote would be for taking it out all together. It doesn't help the general reader. Cutler 16:51, 27 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mathematical formula 

message: Should the opening read "...Joule, FRS" or "Joule FRS" or something different?  Several variations now exist in Wikipedia articles on British scientists.  Anyone have the definitive answer?  It would be nice to have uniformity. - I'm leaving a similar comment on the Humphry Davy talk page. Astrochemist (talk) 13:26, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: The Isaac Newton page is a Wikipedia featured article, and it has simply "Newton FRS" so that's what I've reverted to in the Joule article. - Astrochemist (talk) 01:01, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Punctuation query 

message: I heard that his name should really be pronounced 'Jowl' rather than the way it is commonly proounced, can anyone cite this and if it is correct would it be woorth mentioning.
KingstonJr (talk) 00:51, 26 March 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: See first thread above. A footnote now explains it. kwami (talk) 02:07, 22 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation of Joule 

message: The article states: 
Thomson wrote that "the conversion of heat (or caloric) into mechanical effect is probably impossible, certainly undiscovered"
I don't understand.  Steam engines were in use and they convert heat into mechanical effect.  
- Pepper 150.203.224.165 (talk) 13:26, 17 December 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, steam engines work with steam, with boiling water. But what mechanical effect can be extracted from a glass of warm water? --2001:A62:198F:2401:A0CC:CF68:DBC7:CB65 (talk) 23:02, 13 February 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: Mysterious

message: It is said here that Helmoltz in 1847 credited both Joule and Mayer. This is in contradiction with Hermann Helmholtz#Mechanics. If we suppose that the page on Helmoltz is better informed about Helmoltz than a page on Joule, the assertion here would be false. --Dominique Meeùs (talk) 16:40, 13 July 2013 (UTC)
thread_title: Helmoltz, Mayer

message: In the section "Reception and Priority" is a reference to Sibum (1994).  There is no additional information given about what work is cited.  Is the reference to the 1995 article (paper?) by H. O. Sibum listed under "Further Reading"?
Frenezulo (talk) 17:58, 1 January 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Sibum (1994)?

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thread_title:  External links modified 

message: It is not true that the modern revival of the Joule trademarks is related to James Prescott Joule's family brewery of Salford.  
James Prescott Joule is descended from William Joule of Salford, whose family brewery was at New Bailey Street.
The famous Joule brewery of Stone, Staffordshire, purchased by Bass and shut down entirely, is antecedent of the modern incarnation.  The Stone brewery was founded by Francis Joule, brother of William.  When James Prescott Joule was born, the Stone brewery was owned and operated by his father's cousin, John Joule.  Despite sharing a family name, the Salford and Stone breweries had been entirely separate and distinct for decades prior.
The reference to the modern Joule brewery has therefore been removed.
24.68.80.249 (talk) 18:34, 3 February 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Modern Joule Brewery