Talk:Bellatrix Lestrange (character)

message: Could we find a picture of Bellatrix either a drawing from the books or a screenshot from the upcoming movie? Its not that I don't like the fan art, I just think a "real" picture of Bellatrix would be better. Clamster5 20:33, 20 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Picture?

message: :"(suggesting that the Common Laws preventing material gain through murder do not apply to wizards, or at least to the Black Family)"
This should be removed, as it is "in universe" speculation about whether wizarding law/practice supersedes muggle law. (If I asked for a citation, nothing could be provided to back it up!) It contains the weasel word "suggesting", which might as well be replaced with "I think" or "I'm guessing that". It is also completely irrelevant, because even if this statment is true it holds no bearing on the plot - this idea is not engaged at this point of the novel at all - or the subject of the article (Bellatrix). 68.162.169.173 01:25, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: How about this: "If this is the case, then British Common Law cannot apply to the wizarding world (or at least the Black Family), since that expressly precludes a murderer from inheriting from their victim." Since that is nothing less than a statement of fact (and relates to whether Bellatrix could legally inherit anyway). Michaelsanders 01:30, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Or: "Strictly, under British Common Law, she couldn't inherit anyway." Michaelsanders 01:38, 21 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Speculation removal 

message: Are you sure that she was pale?  I distinctly recall that she was mentioned in the book as "dark".
--KnowledgeLord 05:44, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: She is described as both pale and "as dark as her sister is fair". Thus, it's not clear whether her complexion is light or dark. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.49.145.131 (talk) 19:35, 24 January 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Basically JK means she can get a nice tan when she wants to Niyant 01:20, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Pale?

message: I was just wondering how you guys know Helena was joking when she said that about her lines. So she does have more than five lines in the film then.
(Bigred03 03:34, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I used the word 'joked' because I didn't think people would understand the word 'hyperbolized', although I own that it is not the best descriptor. I think it's pretty clear that she was exaggerating how much of her role was cut. I'll change it now, for precision of language. 68.162.131.231 15:00, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bellatrix's lines

message: Linking Esmé Squalor in Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events to Bellatrix is original research and thus is not permitted in Wikipedia. Stop repeatedly adding this and other unrelated information (Ursa) to this article. I know you're interested in the parallels between these characters, but you can't force your interests and speculations into encyclopedia entries. 68.162.131.231 15:18, 9 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: You have failed to take into account that these characters were first integrated into the article itself in a manner which was clearly original research. Also, linking to these characters in no way enriches this article as they are wholly unrelated to the subject (Bellatrix). "Ursa" led to a disambiguation page, not even a "related" character! It's clearly just some fan trying to force Snicket's characters into another article based on their own drawing of unsubstantiated parallels. 151.201.134.209 00:01, 18 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Original research, unrelated 'see also' links 

message: I removed the link to article about Demons in the translated Norwegian version of her name, as DeMons is not in any way related to demons in the Norwegian language - it's just a common name.
(90.149.131.145 18:44, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Demon link removed from Norwegian translation 

message: A Girl I met recently is a witch. yes they are real. Bellatrix is her role model. and Voldemort and Snape and Bellatrix are after her so she can become like them!
Need I say more?
Striking out ridiculous comment. Ccrashh 15:56, 16 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Suggested Removal 

message: The summary box states that she first appears in the Order of the Phoenix, however she is featured in the trial of the death eaters for the torture of Neville's parents in the flashback Harry sees in the pensieve bowl in Dubledore's office.  That should be fixed.  I will wait and see if anyone has anything to say.  It is even quoted in the first endnote as her quote in the Goblet of Fire.  Agrippina Minor 18:36, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  First Shown in Goblet of Fire 

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thread_title: Fair use rationale for Image:Siriuck.JPG

message: Is it really worth mentioning that Molly Weasley called her a bitch? Faithlessthewonderboy 05:22, 24 July 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably not, though that was a great line. I think it's just worth mentioning the fact that Molly and Bella were dueling to the death, etc, etc. TakaraLioness 15:54, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

text: No clue. I did find it very interesting though... Perhaps she was just trying to wake him up, since something did happen to him? I dunno. She did try to assist him in getting back on his feet, it seems, so maybe... Oh well. I guess we'll never know. TakaraLioness 03:33, 25 July 2007 (UTC)

text: Yes, that's Bella's line, but the "Get away from her" line is the one from Aliens. TakaraLioness 17:11, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Bitch 

message: When searching for this characters name, there is a rather ghastly spoiler (link: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=bellatrix+lestrange&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&client=firefox-a_
"Helena Bonham Carter as Bellatrix Lestrange casts the Avada Kedavra curse on Sirius Black in the film Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix ..."
I think it should be fixed... Kuzmaster 09:55, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Hm... Okay... I'll change it. TakaraLioness 14:55, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  Google Spoiler 

message: I'm wondering if there is a specific meaning behind her name, as there is of so many Harry Potter characters. If I recall correctly, isn't the name Trixie derived from a latin term for a whore? That would make her name "beautiful whore".
:Bellatrix's name means "warrior" in Latin. It's there in the article, in the Early Life section, I think. TakaraLioness 03:04, 7 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Name?

message: What on Earth?! Eye colo(u)r and hair colo(u)r are missing from all HP characters; how, when and why?
:I have absolutely no idea... Please sign your posts. TakaraLioness 05:08, 9 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Those facts don't belong in infoboxes, they are too trivial. Faithlessthewonderboy 22:02, 15 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Hair Colour and Eye Colour

message: There are currently two images of just Bellatrix from the Order of the Phoenix film. Clearly, this goes beyond the scope of fair use. My thought is to delete the one that is not in the infobox (:Image:Bellatrix_HD.jpg). Anyone else? -Phi*n!x  —The preceding  signed but undated. 
Hmm, very true. I agree we should just keep the one in the infobox. Redfur  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.196.174.178 (talk) 22:44, 3 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: If no objections are raised, I will nominate :Image:Bellatrix_HD.jpg for deletion by September 12. -Phi*n!x 19:48, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm all for getting rid of the non-infbox one. It is a horrible picture and adds little to the article. asyndeton 15:22, 15 September 2007 (UTC)

text: The image has been used for a very long time. I see no reason for nominating it. Lord Opeth 01:48, 17 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Images