Talk:Involuntary servitude

message: * Is there a definition for 'voluntary servitude'?
* What separates voluntary from involuntary servitude?
* Is a stop loss objector in voluntary military service an example of involuntary servitude?
* Is compulsory jury duty involuntary servitude?
Could we delete the irrelevant reference to the Libertarian party? 74.251.36.141 01:22, 30 October 2007 (UTC)

message: This definition is insufficient, as, from the Marxist point of view, for one example, it does not differentiate between servitude and capitalist free labor. Let's see: Involuntary servitude is a United States legal and constitutional term for a person laboring against that person's will to benefit another, under some form of coercion applies also to all capitalist free work. Most people in the free world labores against that person's will (i.e., they would not be working in that field if they were millonaires); every worker in the world benefits other people (i.e., the owner of the bussiness); and most people work for economic coercion (i.e., they are forced because they need money).--Againme (talk) 16:13, 20 September 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Definition insufficient 

message: If military service is duty to the country by its citizens, then it must apply equally to both men and women.  By contrapositive, if only men are required to serve, then it is *not* a duty of citizenship per se, rather it's a specific involuntary servitude of specific classes of people in violation of the 13th amendment.  198.144.192.45 (talk) 21:50, 30 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Some argue that on sociological grounds (see e.g., this). Ithas also been argued on legal grounds (see e.g. this). This also discusses gender and conscription. Other relevant sources no doubt exist. Perhaps this article and/or the article on conscription should contain some info on that. Wtmitchell  (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 23:55, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  miltary service of men-only is violation 

message: I reverted the recent restructuring of the article. It gave an WP:UNDUE voice for Libertarians, blanked an article section, and contained WP:ORIGINAL research from the editor --80.193.191.143 (talk) 16:23, 26 July 2014 (UTC)
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message: This edit saying, " In 1975 and 1993, the Supreme Court rejected such an argument.", caught my eye. It seems only to cite this 1975 decision in the U.S. District Court for the District of Utah in support. I am unable to find a SCOTUS decision in either 1975 or 1993 which would provide support. I am not a lawyer, and it is entirely possible that such decisions exist and I just don't know where to look for them. Please clarify and/or correct this. Wtmitchell  (talk) (earlier Boracay Bill) 10:48, 27 June 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Roe v. Ramption and SCOTUS