Talk:The Hanged Man (tarot card)

message: I think it would be great to include some of history of this card in the article (as mentioned in the comment by Philebus).  I was on the verge of adding some myself, but the only sources I have access to at the present are various internet sites with questionable attribution....     Skandha101 05:18, 27 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  The Original Name 

message: I removed the following from the article and bring it here for discussion:
He is closely associated through his cross sum (the sum of the digits) with The Empress, which in many mythologies is his mother or wife. He is the Dying God who dies each year, whose rebirth renews the world. Ideally, he is a willing sacrifice, though life sometimes demands sacrifices of the unwilling.
He is also associated with The Knights of the Minor Arcana; all these heroes are willing to die for their mission.
His cross sum makes him a solar hero. There are 12 months in a solar year (as opposed to 13 months in the lunar year). In some way he represents the solar cults who rode down and vanquished the old goddess cults (metaphorically or otherwise), though some accommodations were reached.
When Key 21 (The World) is placed above The Hanged Man, it makes an ankh, the Egyptian symbol of life, another association with The Empress. He represents the deal life made with death; that in return for reproduction, we are mortal. This is illustrated by the death of Osiris; even though Isis brings him back again and again, in the end, she has to be satisfied with leaving him in the underworld and using her arts to conceive a child with him. Their child, Horus, is a sun god, and in some sense, Osiris reborn.
The Hanged Man is every hero committed enough to the adventure to die for it. 
The Hanged Man's association with the Empress can be ennobling or pathological. If the Empress is the object of desire, the Hanged Man is the one who desires. That desire can be destructively consuming or defining. If the Hanged Man appears with the Empress, it can signal consuming longing.
When he appears in a throw, he often signals a past sacrifice (of the Querent or otherwise) whose energy is either still enriching the Querent's life or being misspent. He can also represent a sacrifice the Querent is being set up to make. That can be a good thing (initiating the Querent into the mysteries, saving the world) or not so much (duping the Querent into an unwise sacrifice). He may also signal something about the person's relationship with their partner or parent.
There is so much interpretation and opinion here, and yet not a single reference to back any of it up.  This has to remain out until sources are found for these statements. ---RepublicanJacobiteThe'FortyFive' 16:54, 18 April 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Mythopoetic approach 

message: Also Moonspell's song "The hanged man" BartoszKP (talk) 10:52, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title: In literature and popular culture

message: Is this card also called "The Traitor" ? Karl-police (talk) 12:58, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Do you know a place where questions like these are better to be asked at, so that they will get seen? Karl-police (talk) 13:02, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia's reference desk will give your question the most views from interested editors, Karl-police.--Quisqualis (talk) 20:44, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: Ah ok. I was wondering, because to translate csgo on sts Karl-police (talk) 20:57, 4 May 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Is this card also called "The Traitor" ? 

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