Talk:Tim Duncan

message: Someone in the past couple of days has been trying to change Tim's mother's name to "Delysia" rather than "Ione." Baffled by this, I did a search, and found BOTH of them in articles. For now I have changed it back to Ione, since there are more sources that have this name and seem to be more credible sources, but I would really like a definitive answer on this if anyone knows for sure or can find a very good source. I couldn't find a name on Tim Duncan's official site, [www.slamduncan.com], but perhaps someone else can. Thanks! EWS23 20:45, August 11, 2005 (UTC)-  
I have been a fan since Tim Duncan Wake Forest years, and his mother name is Ione, father name is William and his two sister's are Cheryl and Tricia. fmwash14353@peoplepc.com
:Shouldn't it be Lone instead of lone? michfan2123 (talk) 15:59, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's Ione.  Eye-own, not Lone. Katharineamy (talk) 16:48, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  Parents 

message: Should the article have a specific section advocating Tim Duncan as the best player of his (the post-Jordan) era?  If yes, here are some important accomplishments to consider:
Entering the 2005-06 season, San Antonio has the highest winning percentage, .702 (438-186), in professional sports since drafting Duncan first overall in 1997.
Scored 12 points in the last six-plus minutes of the 3rd-quarter in Game 7 of the 2005 NBA Finals.  In the 4th-quarter, scored 5 points, set-up two open look three-pointers for Manu Ginobili and Bruce Bowen, and sealed off Ben Wallace twice allowing Ginobili uncontested dunks.
21 points, 20 rebounds, 10 assists, and 8 blocks against the New Jersey Nets in in Game 6 of the 2003 NBA Finals, clinching the title.
37 points and 16 rebounds in Game 6 of the 2003 Conference Semi-Finals against the Lakers in Los Angeles, effectively ending the Shaq-Kobe Dynasty.
Averaged 27.4 points and 14 rebounds per game during the 1999 NBA Finals.
:As much as Tim Duncan *may* be the best play of his generation, that is up for debate.  With that, Wikipedia is a factual site.  Since there is no proof that Tim Duncan is the best player of his generation, it is best left out of the article 69.180.207.194 (talk) 06:23, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Best Player of his Generation 

message: Is there some reason the Greg Newton affair is being removed from the trivia section?
The Animal 04:43, 13 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Greg Newton 

message: Here's are just a few of the references I found doing a little research on line about the Newton-Duncan dispute that Downward reverted the other day:
From the Virginian-Pilot newspaper:
:"Newton Is Pulling His Weight At Duke A War Of The Words With Wake's Duncan Shows The Ex-bench Warmer Has Arrived."
:"Is Tim Duncan The Best Big Man Ever In The ACC?"
:"Wake Beats Duke 8th Straight Time"
From Hoopsworld.com
:"Understanding Tim Duncan Better"
Looks like the edits The Animal and Sugar Daddy are certainly verifiable and cannot be called vandalism. Instead, I would characterize the repeated reverts by Downwards inappropriate when not accompanied by any explanation in the edit summaries or on the talk page. More importantly, calling The Animal's last edit vandalism is almost (but not quite) a violation of Wikipedia's no personal attacks policy.
On 24 May, 2006, Downwards deleted 66.229.8.151's trivia note about Duncan's American Express ad without comment (it's a funny ad, by the way -- here's a link to the video).
On 19 May, 2006, Downwards deleted a three-word edit by 131.210.251.108 attributing Duncan's nickname, "The Big Fundamental", to Shaqille O'Neal. Once again, this was reverting a valid edit; from the Victoria Advocate:
"The Big Fundamental: Mavs know all too well what they're up against with O'Neal"
--A. B.  05:49, 14 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Greg Newton and other unexplained reverts by Downwards?

message: The article mentions Loren Woods and discusses how he "helped ease the pressure on Duncan around the basket." But Woods was a head case and was minimally productive. This is not opinion, rather well-known among those that follow Wake Forest and ACC Basketball.http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1G1-19127705.html
Also, even though the article is about Duncan, it seems misleading to say that Childress "entered the NBA"; he graduated and went on to a brief NBA career (2 seasons, 51 games).
--Crowe0323 (talk) 02:18, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Could you elaborate on your second point? Chensiyuan (talk) 13:02, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Wake Forest teammates 

message: The article on centers has a good discussion of whether Duncan plays the four position or the five.  I don't know where to put in a link, though.--WadeMcR 16:46, 4 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: You could probably mention that in the player profile section. Quadzilla99 22:46, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Whoever defined Duncan's position as "power forward" should check out 82games.com, which shows that Duncan spends the vast majority of his playing time at the center position. --Experience maker (talk) 20:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: Is 82games.com a reliable source? Dabomb87 (talk) 20:58, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Position 

message: wonder if there's any significance behind no. 21... Chensiyuan 14:50, 19 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Other than it being his college number, I've never heard of any; and, as a lifelong Wake fan, I have followed Duncan since he was a freshman there.--Crowe0323 (talk) 01:48, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: thanks! Chensiyuan (talk) 13:35, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Jersey number

message: Do we need all of them? Chensiyuan 07:53, 20 April 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I shuffled the order in which the boxes appear and moved the external links after the references as is standard format. The only box that I would cut is the NBA live cover box. Seems kinda useless. Quadzilla99 08:41, 5 May 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Way too many boxes at the bottom of the article

message: just wanted to gather some thoughts regarding including the laughing incident where Duncan got ejected? this is without mentioning the length accorded to the incident (about 1/5 of the 2003-07 section) Chensiyuan 08:32, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Absolutely daft - to include it. Manderiko 20:31, 10 May 2007 (UTC)

text: NP Chensiyuan 02:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC)

text: Undue, point, and fringe; need more evidence of a widely held opinion. Chensiyuan (talk) 23:40, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Laughing incident

message: There should be more explanation of the Joey Crawford incident. As currently written it is very one-sided.
:NP Chensiyuan 02:27, 19 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Undue, point, and fringe; need more evidence of a widely held opinion. Chensiyuan (talk) 23:40, 1 May 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Incident

message: This description might be vague to non-NBA fans. Could we change "leader" to the more precise "captain"? Zagalejo 06:31, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Either is fine to me but if you think capt is better than I suppose. Chensiyuan 06:35, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Something else I noticed: what's with the height field in the infobox? I can't figure out what the problem is. 76.197.193.86 06:40, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Good eyes. I think it's fixed now. Chensiyuan 07:00, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: "Leader of the Spurs" (from opening paragraph)

message: Duncan is one of only six NBA players to ever win ROY and all three MVP awards --- do we have a source for this? I tried googling it to no avail. Chensiyuan 16:41, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I uncommented this and left it with a  tag - I think it's too important to leave invisible, and there is more chance of finding a source for it if it's tagged. Cricketgirl 09:01, 1 September 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Gang of six

message: am in the process of refining the article in the hope of nominating it for FA... would welcome all manner of assistance, particularly with improvement of prose. Chensiyuan 11:14, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I just listed it, article is worth giving it a shot. —Onomatopoeia 13:09, 19 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Working on it as I have time to. SabarCont 07:36, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: FAC

message: Isn't Duncan's near quad-double noteworthy? Per Wikipedia's own quadruple-double article: Tim Duncan, June 15, 2003, NBA Finals, San Antonio vs. New Jersey; 21 points, 20 rebounds, 10 assists, 8 blocks. I figured it'd be in the part mentioning defeating New Jersey.  It was one of NBA.com's top 60 playoff moments too and further cements Duncan's dominance at his position. SabarCont 11:00, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It's now mentioned in the relevant section. Chensiyuan 14:38, 20 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Quadruple-Double Miss

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thread_title:  Semi-automated peer review 

message: I realize the promise he made his mother to finish college is very important.  However the article seems to mention it 4 times.  It's a bit redundant.  —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.200.29.93 (talk) 01:16, August 23, 2007 (UTC) 
:ok, it's less now. Chensiyuan 02:31, 23 August 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: finishing college

message: Pls fix the MOS breaches throughout the article.  Date ranges and sports scores are separated by endashes, not hyphens, per WP:DASH.  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 23:48, 30 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: , I think. Chensiyuan picked up major slack, and I just scanned through the article and only found 1 error. If you still have objections, feel free to point them out. —Onomatopoeia 07:10, 31 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Looks good.  Thanks for fixing those little things; some editors actually protest and refuse to make fixes post-FAC <grrrrr ... >  SandyGeorgia (Talk) 20:13, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

text: I am wondering about some WP styling; as a former sportswriter, standard AP style dictates that scores, series results, etc., ALWAYS be written with the winning score first, such as 86-69; I noticed in several areas in this article that playoff series may have been lost, 1-3 or 2-4. This would be inappropriate in newspaper copy; best practice is to rephrase such that the winning team is noted for clinching a 3-1 or 4-2 series victory, even if it is not the Spurs (or whichever team is being discussed). While I changed a few instances here, is there a hard and fast rule across the board, one way or the other? I would think that AP style would be most appropriate.--Crowe0323 (talk) 01:54, 24 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Not in issue anymore. Chensiyuan (talk) 15:14, 26 August 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: MOS breaches 

message: - would insert later. Chensiyuan (talk) 01:20, 1 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Tenth NBA All-Star source

message: They referred to Tim Duncan and Bruce Bowen as being gay and doing gay things, and they also mentioned Tony Parker too but I erased it.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.243.22.82 (talk) 08:57, 27 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  someone vandalized the page!! 

message: I was surprised to see this statement as part of the intro of a featured article, especially on the front page.  
"...and his list of accomplishments and leadership in the Spurs' NBA title runs in 1999, 2003, 2005, and 2007 have led basketball experts to consider him to be one of the greatest power forwards in NBA history."  
This really needs a reference. - Slow Graffiti (talk) 06:32, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: The editors who worked on this (originally) didn't prefer to have references in the lead; the current ones were added later by others. The body contains the references for the sentence in question. Chensiyuan (talk) 06:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
replies: text: I asked because there are other references in the lead.  Why should it be split based on who edited and when? Less important references are included in the lead, unless I'm missing something.  For instance, why does his date of birth have a reference?  Has it been disputed? - Slow Graffiti (talk) 20:26, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  Weasel Words/Reference 

message: This appears throughout the article, but not in the coding. Remove?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 128.135.204.146 (talk) 18:56, 5 February 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Spurs worst team ever" 

message: Why is the source for this line allowed?  Anyone that follows basketball should know of the flaws of John Hollinger's methods of analyzing the sport.  He has an agenda since he uses only his proprietary statistics to evaluate players and teams.  A better source would be one of the many "expert" round-table discussions that ESPN had over the year, in which their 8 or 10 basketball guys analyzed and predicted winners instead of Hollinger's computer.  Frankly, I think the line itself is treading on being pure opinion anyways, regardless of source.  Injuries to two of the team's main players should make it easy to infer that the team was not a contender.  Thoughts? 64.148.241.133 (talk) 00:57, 31 July 2009 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Fringe contenders for the championship" 

message: http://www.nba.com/2010/news/features/art_garcia/01/19/duncan20K/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1... Chensiyuan (talk) 18:02, 21 January 2010 (UTC)
thread_title: To be added

message: I have changed all references. — [Unsigned .]
:He's a forward, and plays that position roughly 90% of the time. I'll fix your edits for you.  Thanks.  Kuru (talk) 20:34, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: He plays and has played both, and the sources provided state so. It's not about your own observations. Anyway, Duncan and Robinson co-existed for 5 years, and after that, there were Nazr, Nesterovic, Oberto and even Bonner, all listed as Cs and PFs, who could all play PF and C, depending on the situation. San Antonio has been flexible in that regard. Just because the opponent's C isn't guarded by a C doesn't make a PF a C. Chensiyuan (talk) 21:47, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Lol, child... Chensiyuan (talk) 00:50, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Kobe is a shooting guard, and he sometimes guards LeBron who is a forward, does this makes Kobe a forward too?? Chuck Hayes (6-6) of Houston Rockets is currently their starting center, but he is shorter than 3 other starters, Scola (6-9), Ariza (6-8) and Martin (6-7). Does this means Hayes should not be listed as a center?? Your argument makes no sense at all. Conclusion is, Duncan is both a power forward and a center. — Martin tamb (talk) 11:42, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: many explanations have already been offered, many WP policies already explained, this child is not listening... Chensiyuan (talk) 12:41, 26 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: AboutFaace has been blocked for 48 hours for edit warring. Hopefully we can move on now. Dabomb87 (talk) 12:59, 26 April 2010 (UTC)

text: we have rebutted all your points, and you've said nothing to ours, which are all rooted in the rules and policies of this encyclopedia. your accusations of bias are a poor red herring and utterly pathetic. won't that classify you as a belligerent? yes, unless you have unarticulated yet obvious agendas. Chensiyuan (talk) 13:11, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

text: The fact that Duncan is a PF and a C is explained many times. If you still disagree, then go start your own blog or something. Arguing here doesn't help. Please stop.—Chris!c/t 04:57, 30 April 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Yup, time to ignore trolling. Chensiyuan (talk) 05:27, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Please stop edit-waring. If you continue to do so, I will have to report you again.—Chris!c/t 06:37, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

text: Sorry, but threshold for inclusion of material on Wikipedia is verifiability, not truth. If you can cite a reliable secondary source, I think the other editors here would be happy to reconsider. Right now you are basing your argument on your synthesis to draw conclusions, which is considered original research and cannot be included on Wikipedia. You have not yet addressed the fact that many sources list Duncan as a forward, center, or both. In addition, your disparaging comments do nothing to help your argument. Dabomb87 (talk) 03:38, 8 May 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duncan is a center 

message: I saw someone added this and someone took it out due to lack of a source.  However, I remember hearing the same thing back in the day.  Is anyone able to find a source for this?  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.241.7.116 (talk) 03:32, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: Even if sourced, this is trivia and shouldn't be added in the article.—Chris!c/t 03:34, 26 February 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Warcraft II bonding with David Robinson 

message: http://books.google.com/books?id=zY1ivEwlHP4C&lpg=PA111&ots=nl14fdGXmf&dq=Aversive%20Interpersonal%20Behavior%20tim%20duncan&pg=PA111#v=onepage&q=Aversive%20Interpersonal%20Behavior%20tim%20duncan&f=false
see the bottom of this professor's page:
http://people.duke.edu/~leary/trivia.html
"My most famous student... Tim Duncan, NBA star with the San Antonio Spurs, was a psychology major at Wake Forest when I taught there. He took my research methods class, worked with me on research, and co-authored a book chapter with me."  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 171.67.253.29 (talk) 06:00, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: Interesting information... now to figure out where to slot it, given the book was published in 1997 (ie, after he had graduated). Chensiyuan (talk) 15:43, 18 June 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: It may have been PUBLISHED after he graduated, but that doesn't mean he didn't work on it while still in school. I'd add it in the last paragraph of his college section, right after the first line. I.E. "In contrast to contemporary prep-to-pro players like Kevin Garnett, Jermaine O'Neal, Tracy McGrady or Kobe Bryant, Duncan stayed at college for a full four years, and co-authored a chapter in "Aversive Interpersonal Behaviors"" or something similar to that. You know what, I'll just add it in now, and if you want to change it or find a better place go ahead. Vyselink (talk) 17:45, 18 June 2013 (UTC)

text: It's there. I added it in a few days ago, and then it got moved to a better section, but it's there in the "Off The Court" section. Vyselink (talk) 17:47, 28 June 2013 (UTC)
thread_title:  Duncan coauthored chapter in psychology book  

message: I did not see a mention of Tim Ducan's very popular nickname, "The Big Fundamental", at all throughout this page.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tb40590 (talk • contribs) 22:41, 6 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Use ctrl + f. Chensiyuan (talk) 08:08, 7 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Nickname? 

message: The final section in his playing career section is 'Chase for the fifth championship over (2014)'. Can someone please give it a better title or header? Perhaps something that does not sound like it was written by child? Maybe something more encyclopedic? --65.79.142.245 (talk) 22:41, 16 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: Feel free to make the change! Chensiyuan (talk) 19:59, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: The article is currently semi-protected, so an IP editor would have to provide the exact wording so an autoconfirmed user can make the change.—Bagumba (talk) 20:52, 20 June 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Chase for the fifth championship over (2014) 

message: http://national.suntimes.com/national-sports/7/72/1900651/tim-duncans-brother-scott-10-time-emmy-winner
San Antonio Spurs big man Tim Duncan has been one of the best power forwards in the NBA since entering the league in 1997.
It’s unlikely that many people knew his brother, Scott Duncan, was just as talented in another field, cinematography. 
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2540806-tim-duncan-revs-up-style-in-his-car-shop-revealing-a-rare-portrait-of-a-legend
Then he grabs a yellow-canned Red Bull in a mini-fridge by the front desk and leads two people—his older brother, Scott, an Emmy award-winning filmmaker and photographer, who rode with Duncan to the shop, and a writer—upstairs into BlackJack's main office. 
http://www.duncan.tv/
Lists Scott Duncan's Emmy awards
I could not find a good source for the three brothers.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.197.65.58 (talk) 04:11, 29 September 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tim Duncan has 3 half brothers, one has won 10 Emmy awards 

message: Substituted at 08:48, 30 April 2016 (UTC)
thread_title: Assessment comment

message: The last paragraph in the intro of this entry is incorrect. It states he holds an "honorary degree". To the best of any information available, including the cited reference, Tim Duncan graduated from Wake Forest with a Bachelors Degree in Psychology. He was in school for 4 years. Which is notable as he could have left early to play in the NBA. But he stayed to finish his degree. This is something that should be highly valued, generally speaking. He should be a role model for kids to try to stay in school and earn their degree. To say he holds an honorary, is robbing people of the proper information and influence he can have.
Also the sentence is an absolute mess and could stand to be edited overall. But I just want honorary removed, and it specified he graduated.
Spencer.bartlett (talk) 00:13, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
replies: text: Done - looks like it previously stated "honor degree" and someone modified to "honorary" here; two very different things. I've just changed it to "a degree" since I couldn't quickly find a source related to it being with honors.  Clearly, it is not honorary. Thanks. Kuru (talk) 00:50, 20 June 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 20 June 2016 

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message: Currently a major source for much of Tim Duncan's early life is from jockbio.com, with undated articles on that site, and no identifiable authorship. Some more recognized (and more recent) sources for much of the same information could be cited, including papers of record:
- Washington Post: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/sports/wp/2016/07/11/tim-duncans-legendary-career-began-by-dominating-alzono-mourning-at-age-16/ 
(By Adam Kilgore July 11, 2016)
- San Antonio Express-News: www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Still-Duncan-after-all-these-years-6082124.php
Cached: http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:LT_ogZqoBSQJ:www.expressnews.com/sports/spurs/article/Still-Duncan-after-all-these-years-6082124.php+&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us
(By Jeff McDonaldFebruary 14, 2015)
- Wall Street Journal: https://www.wsj.com/articles/tim-duncans-other-career-as-an-academic-psychologist-1468268919 (Behind paywall, may need to cite paper version)
(By Ben Cohen July 11, 2016)  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.31.126.202 (talk) 15:40, 23 May 2017 (UTC)
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message: If you google “Tim Duncan greatest power forward of all time” there are a tons of articles from noteworthy people, sports shows, teamates, and opponents. If you google best, there aren’t many.
MissTofATX (talk) 04:55, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
replies: text: I was tweaking the wording after someone had changed him from "the greatest" PF to just "one of the greatest".  There's enough sources that directly say that he is widely considered the greatest, and it's not even the typical case of Wikipedia editors doing their own survey of what is "widely considered".  As for "greatest" vs "best", the background is I was going to combine the two sentences about him being "the greatest PF" and "the greatest Spur" into one sentence, but ultimately did not.  So I had changed "greatest" to "best" to break the repetitiveness, as they are generally synonyms.  GOAT was furthest thing from my mind LOL.  No big for me as I didn't combine the sentences together.—Bagumba (talk) 05:19, 13 April 2018 (UTC)
thread_title:  Tim The Greatest Power Forward, Not best. GOAT not BOAT 

message: An IP keeps requesting a swap of Power Forward and Center.  They have been reverted with a comment that he was mostly a power forward.  However,  review of his official stat likes shows hewas officially listed at nearly an even amount of games at each position with PF being his official position for first half of career and C for second half.  
So while I am declining their requested revision, perhaps those that follow this page can take a look at the wording to eliminate the debate over which way he should be referenced.  And the answer may be that PF is the overwhelming position he is known for and played, stat lines be damned. Slywriter (talk) 00:50, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:   Seems fine as is.  Editors are welcome to discuss and change consensus.—Bagumba (talk) 01:25, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: I welcomed the IP to bring the issue to this talk page. Just wanted to put eyes on the requested edit that know Duncan's career better than I.  Slywriter (talk) 01:29, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

text: Actually, looking back at the stats, he did spend time consistently over the last half of his career at the center. Clearly, early on, he was a pure forward with David Robinson at 5. This Bleacher Report editorial probably sums it up best: "First thing's first: Duncan is a power forward. Call him a power forward-turned center if you want. That's totally cool. A majority of his minutes in recent years have been logged at the 5, so the urge to classify him as a center can be persuasive. Just don't give into it. It's not true. He's a power forward and will be remembered accordingly." Even that, though, is two years before he retired. The sentence in question is more of a "what was his primary role", and that's a lot more debatable than "what was he famous for?"  I probably should not have reverted and started this discussion instead; did not realize how much time he spent later on as a C - including many of his later all-star voting brackets. Kuru (talk) 01:48, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
replies: text: A few former newspaper writers aside (and even those are mostly gone now), I generally wouldn't use Bleacher Report as a reliable source.  Very bloggy material.—Bagumba (talk) 05:07, 23 December 2020 (UTC)

text: We should rely on how secondary sources refer to him, not play-by-play stats from stats databases. For example, basketball-reference.com would call Draymond Green the SF and Kevin Durant the PF on the 2018–19 Warriors, which few sources would agree. As for Duncan, he is generally referred to as a forward: (Sporting News 2016) We could also add that he played mostly played center towards the end of his career.. Calling him primarily a center seem like WP:RIGHTGREATWRONGS for now.—Bagumba (talk) 05:07, 23 December 2020 (UTC)
thread_title:  Center vs Power Forward 

message: I see Kobe Bryant has a legacy heading on his article,  I figure can someone make a Legacy heading for Tim Duncan since him and Kobe Bryant are close in the all time rankings JwillWiki454 (talk) 02:10, 15 August 2023 (UTC)
thread_title:  Legacy for Tim Duncan