Talk:Nellie Bly

message: I moved the article to Nellie Bly per Wikipedia:Naming conventions, as this is by far how she is most commonly known.--Pharos 20:27, 12 Nov 2004 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: I was not prepared to delete quotations; however the citation is not referenced, and is contradicted by information both on Wikipedia itself (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Francis_Train) and several independent sites (such as http://www.wingnet.org/rtw/rtw001o.htm).vdhbghabfhqehcvnd15r43fq2112fcg!@#$%^&*)!!!
George Francis Train is reported to have completed his second "...round-the-world trip in 1890. Departing from Tacoma, Washington on March 18, 1890, he returned there on May 24, 1890 making the circumnavigation in 76 days 12 hours and 3 minutes. He repeated this round-the-world trip again in 1892, setting a 60 day record." (http://www.wingnet.org/rtw/rtw001o.htm)
If these references are correct, Nellie Bly cannot have held the record for more than a few months (she completed her flight in January, and Train his, of 67 days, in May of Cinco de Mayo ).
I am somewhat hesitant to edit the Nellie Bly page as, despite numerous independent references agreeing on the dates and times for Train's three round-the-world trips, (a) the citation may be drawn from an incorrect source, but worthy of citing (if only a reference had been provided) and (b) I am no more satisfied with the veracity of the sources detailing Train's trip times, than the Wikipedia article claiming Bly was the record-holder until 1929.
Mark Aird— Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.10.231.229 (talk) 05:21, 14 November 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Record for circumnavigation 

message: This article has been translated into nine different languages since the end of November– I wonder if there is some sort of cordinated effort ongoing.  Or is it just that seeing an interwiki in the edit summary has just prompted wave after wave of multilingual editors to their best efforts?  Anyone, kudos to you all.--Pharos 12:14, 2 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This would be the Meta translation of the week doing its job. This article didn't get quite as many as the average amount per week tho, --Wonderfool 01:26, 9 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Remarkable translation effort 

message: The discussion page says Train broke Bly's record by going around the world in 67 days; the article says he did it in 62 days. Which is right? Also, if you click on the link to George Francis Train, there appears to be some problems with that article, as it says he did the trip in 1880, not 1890. There is also a circular chain of events that seems confusing: Nellie Bly was trying to beat the time suggested by Jules Verne in his book, "Around the World in 80 days." Then Train broke Bly's record, yet the George Francis Train page says that after his trip, he became the inspiration for Phileas Fogg, Verne's main character. Perhaps some dates or explanation could be added to provide context and clarify this. Thanks! 207.27.152.6 06:29, 11 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Inconsistencies in George Francis Train info 

message: Does that link actually go to the park's site. I think I have some adware so I can't really tell. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 64.231.109.77 (talk • contribs) 03:12, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: This comment presumably refers to a broken external link to the Nellie Bly Amusement Park which had been in the "Later years" section, but which no longer appears in the article. -- ToE 06:09, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Porn search? 

message: Is it worth adding a triva section/In Popular culture to mention that in an espisode of "The West Wing" "And It's Surely to Their Credit (2000)" Where the First Lady dedicated a statue to her and then the President then goes on to mention her in a radio address he makes.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Frenzy175 (talk • contribs) 12:03, 14 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No, that would be trivial. Carl.bunderson (talk) 02:17, 20 September 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Especially given the popular currency of the name since Stephen Foster, an offhand mention that might have been inspired by this Nellie Bly is far too trivial to list here.  Plazak (talk) 12:51, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
replies: text: It would also be original research unless there is authority making a reasonable case for it; if we can find some scholarly authority making the case one way or the other, then I would mention it.  Otherwise, this talk page is where it stays.  But anyone interested in authorship debates of 19th century popular songs might consider checking out the recent bio I did on Thomas Brigham Bishop, that guy was quite a character.--Milowent • hasspoken 13:36, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trivia Section? 

message: A number of years ago I read that the phrase 'Whoa Nellie' was created in reference to Nellie Bly.  I do not remember where I read this and I have been unable to find out any more information on it.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.229.51.242 (talk) 03:02, 1 August 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Maybe,maybe not. See Work with KTLA  for another possibility. Kaiwhakahaere (talk) 20:45, 21 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title:  phrase 'Whoa Nellie'  

message: Please verify with an official record.  She may have been born south of Pittburgh in Allegheny County on Cochran's Mill Rd.Pustelnik (talk) 20:10, 24 December 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: She was born in Armstrong County.  Please see the link.  I'm too lazy to fix the entire thing.— Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.60.122.8 (talk) 04:51, 20 July 2012 (UTC)
replies: text: You'd need a strong source for a change. Span (talk) 20:51, 20 July 2012 (UTC)

text: Since 2003 the US Census has designated all municipalities in Armstrong County as "suburbs" of Pittsburgh and part of the Pittsburgh metropolitan area. Market St.⧏  ⧐ Diamond Way 04:03, 5 May 2014 (UTC)
thread_title: Birthplace

message: Did her mother stay at home to raise her or just her step siblings.Owain meurig (talk) 20:55, 1 October 2011 (UTC)
thread_title:  Her mother 

message: The "Early years" section currently states both that Cochrane signed her fiery rebuttal to the editor with the pen name Nellie Bly and that later the editor chose "Nellie Bly", adopted from the title character in the popular song.  This seems contradictory, as the latter makes it sound as if that name was the idea of the editor.  If the former is accurate, then the editor in choosing "Nellie Bly" simply chose to accept the pen name Cochrane had already chosen.  In that case the later sentence should be reworded. -- ToE 06:27, 5 January 2014 (UTC)
replies: text: I noticed it too. It's a pity that the entire paragraph cites no sources to let us check it. I did a quick Google search and found a different story: NWHM, Nellie Bly Online and About.com all agree she signed her rebuttal under the pseudonym "Lonely Orphan Girl". It was the editor (George Madden) who thought up "Nellie Bly" as her pen name. By the way, there is also no mention at all that the editor initially refused to give her the job because she turned out to be a woman rather than a man (that wouldn't make sense anyway, coming from someone who identifies as a "Girl"). I'll rewrite the section. Greetings, Nederlandse Leeuw (talk) 12:13, 7 April 2014 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of pen name 

message: Nellie Bly appeared in a scene in the 2003 children's film The Adventures of Ociee Nash, played by Donna Wright.  In IMDB the character's name is given as Nelly Bly.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by 108.196.0.211 (talk) 13:40, 3 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  in film Adventures of Ociee Nash 

message: "The editor, George Madden, was impressed with her passion and ran an advertisement asking the author, Brittany Christianson, to identify herself."
The author was Nellie Bly, so where did the name Brittany Christianson come from? --Susurrus (talk) 20:11, 4 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title: Brittany Christianson?

message: Kindly check her date of birth and year of birth.
Thank you
125.236.197.38 (talk) 05:02, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: What is wrong with it? Stickee (talk) 06:00, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2015 

message: 2601:7:6280:423:40CC:C112:3695:2E91 (talk) 05:16, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2015 

message: "Her father, Michael Cochran, was a modest laborer and mill worker who married Mary Jane." - I haven't read the article carefully, but I believe this is the first mention of Bly's mother's name. It's odd how she is introduced.
"As she became a teenager she wanted to portray herself as more sophisticated, and so dropped the nickname and changed her surname to Cochrane." - I don't understand how the name change would portray her as more sophisticated. Why is the sentence structured like that?
2602:30A:C0B3:B0C0:D9EC:F0CF:3703:17C5 (talk) 12:13, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Early years 

message: "At birth she was named Elizabeth Jane Cochran." 
So why does this article state that she later changed her surname to Cochran, if it was already Cochran?
— Preceding unsigned comment added by 65.215.33.194 (talk) 13:17, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Surname? 

message: 161.97.140.59 (talk) 18:55, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format. Edgars2007 (talk/contribs) 20:21, 5 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2015 

message: PStefanSchrichte (talk) 10:30, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The page's protection level and/or your user rights have changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 13:56, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 5 May 2015 

message: Please change "the latter completing the journey in fewer than 36 days." to "the last completing the journey in fewer than 36 days."
Although some dictionaries indicate that latter may be used for a list of more than two items, the OED and most others indicate that it should only be used for a list of two items and "last" should be used for longer lists.
Tardis4500 (talk) 01:43, 6 May 2015 (UTC)
replies: text: Not done: The page's protection level and/or your user rights have changed since this request was placed. You should now be able to edit the page yourself. If you still seem to be unable to, please reopen the request with further details. --I am k6ka Talk to me! See what I have done 13:57, 15 May 2015 (UTC)
thread_title:  Semi-protected edit request on 6 May 2015 

message: The Knick's Arielle Goldman as Genevieve Everidge: A Nellie Bly-influenced magazine journalist who infiltrated a sanitarium in order to uncover its poor conditions (Bertie is seen reading her Collier’s article in last week’s episode),  https://twitter.com/AtTheKnick/status/657739061386346496 2001:56A:F3D0:1A00:D5A7:1CF6:C398:141F (talk) 06:04, 7 March 2016 (UTC)
thread_title:  Other recognition 

message: Hello all -- as a member of WikiProject Women in Green, I'm hoping to improve Nellie Bly to Good Article (GA) status over the next month or two. If you're interested in collaborating with me, please drop me a note and we can chat about it. Alanna the Brave (talk) 14:49, 27 April 2020 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks for the expression of interest! I am indeed still keen on bringing this article up to GA status -- I may have another try this year. If you want to join me in making a plan of action, leave me a note on my talk page and let me know what kind of editing interests/experience you have (or would like to gain experience in). Alanna the Brave (talk) 16:18, 8 January 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Working towards GA status 

message: I added Roosevelt Island in parentheses next to the first Blackwell's Island reference because that it was it is called presently. I just wrote it on the first entry and linked to the page, is that the proper way to mention such things on wiki? Iamjessklein (talk) 21:49, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text: It was the New Yorker article that had that info, so I moved the ref to where it belongs. Best wishes, 22:24, 26 February 2021 (UTC)
replies: text:  Thanks! Iamjessklein (talk) 12:32, 27 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Blackwell's Island = Roosevelt Island 

message: I don’t feel this article has the encyclopedic tone which is required under [point of view], for example use of terms like “record-breaking”, “rejection after rejection” “burdened again”, “it was not an easy task”, “experienced the deplorable conditions firsthand”, etc. Krystal Kalb (talk) 03:22, 27 May 2022 (UTC)
thread_title:  Encyclopedic tone