Category talk:Religious Zionist Orthodox rabbis

message: :All discussion about the following is at: Category talk:Orthodox rabbis#More precise system based on recognized names.
There are now more precise categories. 
Thus under :Category:Orthodox rabbis there is now some new sub-categories using KNOWN and accepted non-controversial academic and ecyclopedic nomenclature. (If anyone would like to indicate that a rabbi is presently ALIVE then just put in the :Category:Living people and automatically the reader knows that the rabbi is with us!):
*:Category:Modern Orthodox rabbis (for rabbis identified with Modern Orthodox Judaism)
*:Category:Religious Zionist Orthodox rabbis (for rabbis identified with the BROAD Religious Zionist Movement)
*:Category:Haredi Judaism
**:Category:Hasidic Judaism
**:Category:Haredi Judaism in Europe
***:Category:Hasidic Judaism in Europe
**:Category:Haredi Judaism in Israel
***:Category:Hasidic Judaism in Israel
**:Category:Haredi Judaism in the United States
***:Category:Hasidic Judaism in the United States
**:Category:Haredi rabbis
***:Category:Haredi rabbis in Israel (all Haredi Judaism non-Hasidic and some Sephardic rabbis in Israel go here)
****:Category:Hasidic rabbis in Israel (sub-category of Haredi rabbis in Israel and a place for rabbis associated with Hasidic Judaism)
***:Category:Haredi rabbis in the United States (all Haredi Judaism non-Hasidic and some Sephardic rabbis in the United States go here)
****:Category:Hasidic rabbis in the United States (sub-category of Haredi rabbis in the United States and a place for rabbis associated with Hasidic Judaism)
***:Category:Haredi rabbis in Europe
****:Category:Hasidic rabbis in Europe
**:Category:Chabad-Lubavitch rabbis (for rebbes and rabbis of Chabad-Lubavitch)
*If there is any doubt, or if a rabbi cannot be clearly placed into one of the above, he should remain in :Category:Orthodox rabbis.
The above should go a long way towards sorting out the ever-growing list of Orthodox rabbis of all shades and parties etc. IZAK 09:26, 5 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Additional precise sub-categries for growing number of Orthodox rabbis 

message: Proposal: This category is redundant. It should be deleted and the articles wherein moved to either the Haredi or Modern Orthodox categories. Alternatively, all three of the above categories are redudant and should be deleted. Nesher 16:30, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Redundant Category 

message: Cross-posted from: Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Judaism:
Hi: I disagree with the CfD votes nominated by User:Shuki and User:Nesher. The categories are clear and precise, and it seems that Nesher and Shuki are not fully familar with the way categories are set up and constructed with super-categories first and a number of extending sub-categories. The numbers of rabbis in :Category:Orthodox rabbis was growing and some changes were introduced to create accurate sub-categories, and sub-sub-categories, something that is done all the time on Wikipedia. The new categories and sub-categories were created based on fact, logic, and reality. If they had problems with it, Nesher and Shuki could have brought the subject over here for some discussion if they had more to say and wanted to bring others in and share their views. However, now that there is a formal vote, it becomes a broader issue, and it can be opened up further here as well. 
The votes are presently taking place at:
#Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 23#Category:Haredi rabbis
#Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 23#Category:Religious Zionist Orthodox rabbis
#Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 23#Category:Contemporary Orthodox rabbis
#Wikipedia:Categories for deletion/Log/2006 May 24#Category:Modern Orthodox rabbis
Thank you and Shabbat Shalom! IZAK 14:03, 26 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Orthodox rabbis categories for deletion