Wikipedia talk:Articles for deletion/Archive 22

message: As per the above discussion (did anyone at all actually object to day links?), I'll be making WP:VFD into a list of day links probably during the day (UTC) on Sunday 13 March 2005. Wikipedia:Votes for deletion (full list) (or WP:VFDF) will be the full list with all day pages transcluded for a multi-megabyte monster page. I've left notes on Wikipedia talk:Bots, User talk:AllyUnion and User talk:VFD Bot about the change - David Gerard 09:39, 11 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: VFD into a list of day links

message: Could the template be changed so that when it is added to a page, the link you click on to take you to the main vfd page to list it takes you to the current days log only? It'd make the process slightly faster.--nixie 00:06, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: You're talking about the template that goes on the top of the page being nominated for deletion, right?  Changing the link to the day-page would shave a step or two off the nomination process but it would make it even more likely that subsequent readers - users who are often new to the VfD process - will fail to see the instructions and guidelines at the top of the main VfD page.  Rossami (talk) 02:41, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  It could link to Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Log/Today, which has all the VFD headers and footers wrapped around the current day's listings. sjorford →•← 09:34, 16 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Suggested small change to the vfd template

message: Hi all, I'm having a helluva time trying to save any changes to the main WP:VFD page. Specifically, I'm trying to remove March 1, Feb 28, and Feb 27 from the /Old links because the discussions have closed on these pages. I've already tried to do this multiple times and I'm getting a little pissed. If someone else has better luck than me, please try and edit this. Thanks, --Deathphoenix 20:32, 17 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Someone please remove the following links from /Old 

message: In a recent deletion discussion, an article was nominated for deletion after it had been successfully transwiki'd to Wiktionary.  That discussion got a bit long.  And since it really applies to multiple potential situations, it should probably be discussed here instead.
I believe that the instructions at m:transwiki are quite clear.  The original article gets deleted at the end of the successful transwiki.  It is, as Kappa said, a "move", not a "copy".  I also believe that it is eligible for immediate deletion and does not require discussion on VfD because it is a reversible decision.  History is preserved (assuming that it's been done right, anyway).  Content is not being destroyed just because it has been moved to a different WikiMedia project.  If the move turns out to have been controversial, it can be reversed by any editor by transwiking in the other direction (admittedly, a tedious manual process).
Some confusion may be occurring because WP:CSD rule A2 explicitly states that "Foreign language articles that already exist on another Wikimedia project, as a result of having been copied and pasted in to Wikipedia after their creation elsewhere, or as a result of having been moved via the transwiki system" are eligible for speedy deletion.  When that clause was written, the only other WikiMedia projects were alternate languages.  Wiktionary and its peers did not yet exist.  If the clause were written today, I believe the words "foreign language" would not be included.  I don't think there has been a press to change the wording, however, because there was wide understanding that the process description at m:transwiki took precedence.  
Am I wrong in my understanding?  Rossami (talk) 23:07, 21 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Deletion at the end of transwiki 

message: Given the huge size of VfD, and the fact that monitoring the page properly is virtually a full-time activity, contacting like-minded users to notify them of particular nominations is clearly an acceptable action. To verbiage "ballot-stuffing" should be reserved for sock puppets. Pcb21| Pete 21:38, 26 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: "Ballot-stuffing" is fine

message: Forgot to put the === subheader in the description for You Kicked My Dog, so it got merged with the previous entry (Noll Scott). Probably needs administrator intervention? Sorry! --Wahoofive 23:47, 27 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I see from the page's history that you figured it out. -- Cyrius|✎ 22:33, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  I screwed up 

message: In the light of the recent schools related votes seeing (accusations of) personal attacks flying in various directions, is it technically possible to insert large bold "Participants in Votes for Deletion debates are reminded not to engage in personal attacks" (or words to that effect) banner at the top of each VfD sub-page? I know a template could do it but if there is a way that we can do it without the need for any instruction creep? Thryduulf 22:33, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Policy consensus gets transcluded at the top of each subpage by VFD Bot, so that's probably the most practical place to put it. —Korath (Talk) 23:26, Mar 28, 2005 (UTC)
Either were talking at cross purposes or the bot isn't working. I'm talking about the top of live VfD pages, e.g. (to take a random example) Wikipedia:Votes for deletion/Brenda Dickson. Thryduulf 23:42, 28 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  No personal attacks reminder