Talk:Clint Malarchuk

message: EDIT 5.29.2013
I'm not sure how to handle this so I figured it best to post here and let someone more experienced sort it out. Much of the information in the Gun Incident section has now been contradicted by Clint and Joan Malachuk themselves, in on-camera interviews for ESPN's 30-for-30 series which can be seen here. Specifically:
"Malarchuk was discovered bleeding profusely on a bench by his wife, Joan, who had just arrived home from work, and she immediately called the authorities." This is contradicted by Joan who states on-camera that she spoke to Clint leading up to the shooting, and in fact she witnessed it happen.
Also:
"Nevada's Record Courier reported that, according to his wife, Malarchuk, who was hunting rabbits at the time, had rested the rifle between his legs and with its butt on the ground when it suddenly discharged." This is contradicted by Joan who states on-camera that she spoke to Clint in the moments before the shooting and that he was making suicidal remarks.
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"Still, Malarchuk came within minutes of becoming only the second on-ice fatality in NHL history (the first, and thus far only, was Bill Masterton)."
Well, according to Masterton's page he didn't die on the ice he died 2 days later as a result. Contradiction here.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.59.85.183 (talk) 03:02, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: Howie Morenz also died due to an on-ice NHL incident - complications of a broken leg.  Since Masterson also died days after the incident, I think both should be included. Im.a.lumberjack (talk) 19:11, 28 February 2009 (UTC)

text: The video is easy to find on YouTube .  I would not be opposed to linking to the YouTube video in the external links section, with a warning about graphic content.  Including the still in the article would be waaaaaay over the top, though.  --13.12.254.82 23:51, 1 March 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: I added a youtube link to the video of the accident on 24 Feb, the change was removed 4 minutes later by someone citing WP:YOUTUBE. On reviewing the policy on youtube links the policy is clear that there is no blanket ban on linking to youtube in extended links. Youtube/google video appear on the links to avoid list because video links often break the guidelines on the external links page. If WP:EL (on which WP:YOUTUBE appears) is to be used as an excuse to revert my edit, a mention to a specific policy the video breaks should be made, not a caution list. Link to be re-added.Pissedpat (talk) 05:58, 1 April 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Untitled

message: The article currently (12.11.13) asserts:
"Malarchuk's injury has been widely referred to as professional sports' most gruesome injury."
There is a strong implication that it is generally accepted that this is the most gruesome sport injury. It may well be the case that many hockey fans (that are spread widely around the world), refer to this as the "most gruesome professional sports injury". However, it is wrong to so strongly imply that the neutral encyclopedic viewpoint is that this one in particular is the most gruesome. It is a hugely contentious point. There are billions of sports fans and thousands of deaths throughout the history of sport. Malarchuk survived and played again. 
Wikipedia's biography of living persons policy states:
"Contentious material about living persons (or in some cases, recently deceased) that is unsourced or poorly sourced – whether the material is negative, positive, neutral, or just questionable – should be removed immediately and without waiting for discussion."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Biographies_of_living_persons
Some other sport injuries that are doubtlessly "widely regarded" as being more gruesome:
Aryton Senna RIP (3-time Formula 1 champ)
Andrew Simpson RIP (Olympic sailing champion)
Dan Wheldon RIP (Indycar champ)
Paul Wood (rugby league player) (burst testicle)
Brian Foster (UFC fighter) (burst testicle)
I rest my case. In line with Wikipedia's policy I'm deleting the sentence.CNWLcanBGrade1 (talk) 20:38, 11 December 2013 (UTC)
replies: text: I would disagree about Andrew Simpson.  Wiki's article states Simpson was underwater for 10 minutes....he drowned.  Tragic?  Absolutely.  But "gruesome"?  Debatable, at least when compared to Malarchuk, Senna, etc.  (For the record, "gruesome" is defined as "causing great horror; horribly repugnant; grisly".)  Elsquared (talk) 01:45, 10 August 2020 (UTC)
thread_title: The most gruesome injury in professional sporting history?

message: I changed "Albertan" back to "Canadian". It's highly unusual to refer to a state or province as a "nationality" unless that province is substantially distinct from the rest of the nation (Tibet, for example). I know I wouldn't refer to myself as "New Jerseyan". ;) Thunderbunny 06:16, 5 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Nationalities

message: Half of this article seems to be on this site http://www.cyberscumbag.com/malarchuk.htm also. If this comes from there the article needs changing.
:I'm pretty sure the text on that page came from Wikipedia, not the other way around. I know this because I started the article myself and came up with most of the text independently, and I am 100% sure I've never seen this external site before. Thunderbunny 01:17, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: Copyright violation

message: This article claims the injury was to his 'interior carotid artery'. But the articles linked here say it was his jugular vein, which is not the same thing. Is there any good source for 'carotid artery'? --210.10.133.116 08:12, 6 November 2007 (UTC)
replies: text: It was the carotid. The jugular does not spray that much blood due to the lower pressure.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.188.245.87 (talk) 00:43, 13 February 2008 (UTC)
replies: text: Under that notion, the main page has not been changed. It still says jugular vein, and that the carotid is incorrect. Which one is it, and if Jugular, was it the Internal or External (I believe it was the external, makes more physical sense)? Pir (talk) 23:06, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

text: The same source that claims the bleeding was from the jugular vein says the blood squirted out with every heartbeat: definite a clue it was the carotid artery. DrJos (talk) 12:46, 26 August 2009 (UTC)
thread_title: Carotid or jugular?

message: This article was automatically assessed because at least one WikiProject had rated the article as start, and the rating on other projects was brought up to start class. BetacommandBot 15:18, 9 November 2007 (UTC)
thread_title: WikiProject class rating

message: I've watched the YouTube video several times, and I personally see no evidence that any player vomited on the ice. However, the video is cited after that statement in the article. I'd appreciate it if someone could either point out to me where this occurs, or change the article.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.37.225.201 (talk) 00:14, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Players Vomiting?

message: can we add a little mention of Richard Zednik's near death injury that happened when Olli Jokinen accidentally cut Zednik's neck similar to Malarchuk's injury in 1989.--Boutitbenza 69 9 (talk) 01:09, 12 February 2008 (UTC)
thread_title: Richard Zednik's injury

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message: "He led Malarchuk off the ice then applied extreme pressure by kneeling on his collarbone—a procedure designed to produce a low breathing rate and low metabolic state, which is preferable to exsanguination."'
I am unable to find any sources supporting either the claim that the trainer, Jim Pizzutelli, ever knelt on Malarchuk's collarbone; nor any information to suggest this procedure would result in a lower metabolic state.
Also the interjection that this would be "preferable to exsanguination" would likely be agreed upon by the vast majority of people, but should probably be reworded in a less tongue-in-cheek manner.
Mouthofthetornado (talk) 14:34, 1 February 2021 (UTC)
thread_title:  Collarbone pressure