Talk:San Antonio/Archive 1

message: The article mentions that San Antonio was named after St.Anthony the Great. Is that true? I always thought that it was named after St.Anthony of Padua... --thomasgraz 16:39, 2 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Origin of the name? 

message: About half way down the page, under the "People and culture" section, it is says that Karl Rove lives (or owns a home) in The Dominion.  I belive this to be incorrect.  I did not remove the statement because I am not 100%, but encourage the author to double check his/her inforamtion. 24.173.63.215 01 Nov 2005
San Antonio metro is almost 2 million, wow this city has grown. — 208.188.153.193 16 Dec 2004
: Still a great place to live! — 64.213.156.2 8 Mar 2005
The avg income for san antionio doesn't sound right.--Andrewcool 02:41, 29 Mar 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Miscellaneous 

message: The city of SA is now larger than Dallas. It is thus the 8th largest in US. Not 9th, making it the 2nd in TX. But the metro is #3.    --Zereshk 23:21, 30 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Yes, I am quite aware that San Antonio is now the second-largest city within the state of Texas and eighth in the United States as of the July 1, 2003 U.S. Census estimates. I rewrote the introduction recently to reflect the official (non-estimate) 2000 U.S. Census figure. I also made a minor formatting of the article to make it look better, especially at the introduction. UH Collegian 00:14, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I didnt delete or change your edits, just updated the population estimates to the 2004 Census Bureau figures.--Zereshk 00:23, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  One problem is that, as the page currently read, it's incorrect.  It says SA was 8th according to 2000 figures.  We were still 9th by the 2000 figures.  Either it needs to stay saying 9th, or it needs to say correctly where the "8th" stat comes from (2004 figures). TexasAndroid 15:08, 31 July 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: fixed.--Zereshk 21:29, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

text: The population numbers in the infobox are supposed to be the 2004 numbers; until the infobox template is updated, the following notation in the body of the article is sufficient.... "The 2005 U.S. Census estimate for the eight-county (Atascosa, Bandera, Bexar, Comal, Guadalupe, Kendall, Medina, and Wilson Counties) San Antonio metro area placed its population at 1,889,797. " Clipper471 02:41, 10 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: 8th largest is correct

message: Not an actual complaint, but I have to laugh with and agree with the "'the' place" remark in regards to the Bonham. --Alex¯Jon 05:12, 7 October 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Opinion quibbling 

message: I propose that the "SA notables" section be moved to an independent page on its own, inorder to both preserve its list from future trims (due to eclipsing and overshadowing of the main SA article) and to also maintain the suitable proportion for the San Antonio page. (the section is starting to overshadow the main SA article).
We can then provide a "See main article: Notables of San Antonio, Texas" link from the section on the SA page to the new page.
Agree?--Zereshk 21:35, 4 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title: Notables section is becoming too large

message: Agreeing with the above about making separate pages, I propse that, seeing as San Antonio is growing at a pace comparable to its own wikipage, we go _THE DISTANCE_. Meaning, adding in the various neighborhoods (separated, obviously, by district), a more in-depth transportation section, cultural and historical elaboration (can/will do if necessary), and various other things of the sort. The city is 400+ sq. mi., so a page that has fewer words than some articles on flowers just won't do.
Hereby proposed:
*Transportation
**More highway info, taking into account the current 5-year plan to take truck traffic from the interior highways, and new propsed freeways
**A neutral elaboration on the bus system, and the unmentioned river taxi (and proposals on its expansion)
*City Districts
**Neighborhood listings, with landmarks (main school, fire/police substations), etc
** EXAMPLE: SNAKE HILL/GOVERNMENT HILL (District 2) - Served by SAISD (Pershing Elem., Wheatley Mid., Fox Tech High)
*Architecture
**OBVIOUSLY, this is a VERY underwhelming part of San Antonio's wikiarticle. Many styles are in SA, from the Alamo and the Spanish Governor's Palace, to the very art deco E. Houston Street drag.
Any other ideas? Hit me up here AND in my own discussion page. TA, --Alex¯Jon 02:56, 15 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: I dont think you need to propose adding missing info. Just add it into the article, and we will keep enriching things as we go along. However re-adding back in the neighborhoods wasnt a good idea. It clutters up the page needlessly while there is other information still in need of being written  about SA. Not to mention that it is uncourteous in ignoring the majority that voted here. Im adding in 2 or 3 pics I just took.--Zereshk 10:35, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text:  Though i don't really have a strong opinion on the old Neighborhood data being readded, I can see the logic.  It was moved to it's own article because it had become huge.  It had become huge because of the copyright data that had been added.  With all that copyright data removed, the section is back to a much more reasonable size.  So I don't  have a huge problem with it returning.  The one problem I see with it's return is that we now have the exact same data in the SA article section, and in the separate SA neighborhood article.  This duplication is going to  cause trouble at some point down the line. - TexasAndroid 19:30, 26 December 2005 (UTC)
replies: text: Perhaps someone should take up the job of paraphrasing the old copyright stuff (and providing source of course) to restore the independent page's length?--Zereshk 00:02, 28 December 2005 (UTC)
thread_title:  Micromanagement 

message: As per my concerns in the Micromanagement section above, I've been concerned by having the same data in the Districts section of the San Antonio article, and in the separate Districts sub-article.  To deal with this duplication, I have just now placed the sub-article up for AFD.  If you have interest in the fate of this San Antonio sub-article either way, please come and join in the discussion/vote. - TexasAndroid 16:14, 10 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Districts up for deletion 

message: User:D Marc has replaced the safe Image:Downtown-san-antonio.jpeg with a non-safe (unsourced) image of San Antonio Image:Saskyline.jpg, which means it will soon be deleted, and we wont have any image at all of San Antonio's cityscape.
Someone please address the problem.--Zereshk 22:08, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Revert back to the safe one and explain on edit summary. RJN 22:33, 27 January 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Image mess up

message: I tried verifying this info and couldn't find it.  According to the sega site found here they are based in San Francisco.  Maybe the editor just got confused. Csyberblue 09:08, 3 February 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Sega has HQ's here? 

message: Hello; I am writing because I am concerned about what happened to the former "Districts and communities" section, now known as "Zones - Districts - Communities." (To begin with, the new title is no good; it shouldn't have dashes.) I overhauled this section a couple of months ago and thought it was pretty good and accurate...now the only parts from my edit that remain somewhat intact are about China Grove, Windcrest, West Side, and East Side. Whoever redid the section threw in a bunch of TOTALLY FABRICATED NAMES like NoDo, SoSo, Midtown, Uptown, Uptown Broadway, Great Northwest, etc., including nonexistent "districts" downtown. These may be valid names in New York City, but those familiar with San Antonio never refer to parts of our city as such. In addition, there are all these one-line paragraphs that are choppy and aesthetically displeasing.
With regard to his "celebrity map," we do not need these lists of Spurs players and minor celebrities to describe the districts. I wrote "Notables of San Antonio" and then we agreed to relegate celebrities to that page because the main page was getting too listy. By the way, can anyone verify that Thomas Gibson, Jim Carrey, and Joe Horn live in San Antonio? If they do, it's news to me. And Tommy Lee Jones lives in Terrell Hills, not Alamo Heights.
* I don't know if Jim Carrey and Joe Horn live here, but Thomas Gibson (of "Dharma & Greg" fame) definitely has moved to the San Antonio area.  Jeanne Jakle's mentioned this in her column a number of times, most recently when his new series (what's the name of it?  it's a CBS drama) got picked up and she was, all like, rah rah go Thomas like how she is with anyone connected with S.A. who makes it in Hollywood.  Carrey might have lived here temporarily while filming some of Ace Ventura 2, though; the scenes that were set in Africa were filmed just outside of S.A. on a nature preserve and so everyone connected with that film must have temporarily set up shop here.  Though if Carrey was won over enough to actually move to S.A., I think Jakle would have leapt up and announced it with big bold letters, so I'm thinking he's not got a permanent address here. Krushsister 03:16, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  Actually, "Great Northwest" is the valid name for the neighborhood (a bunch of subdivisions) near Culebra and 1604, extending north toward the Medical Center (I used to live there).  And "SoSo", or "South of Southtown," really is the name being frantically pushed (signs posted all over) by the people in that area.  But you're right, no one else seems to be using it, nor are many people using "Southtown" for that matter, even though the city has given the area that official designation.Crazed actor 19:21, 3 March 2006 (UTC)
replies: text:  * I'm here to verify Crazed actor's assertion that there IS a neighborhood called the Great Northwest.  It's demarcated on the Mapsco (formerly Ferguson's) maps of S.A. and is listed as one of the neighborhoods included in the "West/Northwest" Neighbrhoods section of Wednesday's edition of the Express-News.  (FYI, I live in the Medical Center area.)  Also, a bit OT:  Would all the little "terrace" neighborhoods constitute actual neighborhood names?  Like, I used to live in Oak Hills Terrace (the neighborhood with all those celebrity street names), and before that I lived in Monte Vista Terrace (not quite as ritzy as its name would suggest; it was actually an extension of Los Angeles Heights that was cut off from that neighborhood by I-10). Krushsister 03:22, 14 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  What happened to "Districts"? 

message: Someone said the Great Northwest Interchange at I-10 and 1604 is "one of the largest in Texas."  That is not correct.  It is a basic clover leaf that I have the pleasure of sitting still in during rush hour.  :(  I have also never heard that name used.  Perhaps this is referring to the interchange nearing completion at I-10 and Loop 410?  It is a nice interchange but has nothing on some of the monsters in Houston and DFW. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.206.100.245 (talk • contribs) 
:Agreed.  They must be referring to the ongoing project at I10/410.  I share your daily commute/crawl through I10/1604 - and it is a fairly basic, somewhat poorly thought out cloverleaf.  Since I'm not absolutely sure what "great northwest interchange" is supposed to reference, it is probably best to simply remove it. Kuru talk 18:18, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Whiiiiiich you already did.  :) Kuru talk 18:20, 15 April 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Great Northwest Interchange 

message: Given that the whole issue appears to be dead, for now at least, does anyone object to me simply removing the section?  I don't see it as very important, historically, given that nothing has come from it.  I'll not act until Monday at the earliest, to give chance for people to object, but I'm inclined to just remove the section. - TexasAndroid 13:40, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: no objections from me Clipper471 14:47, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: ditto, no objections; just a footnote in the history books now.  Kuru talk 23:08, 12 May 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Baseball relocation 

message: Hey, I just changed the graphic for the flag and was wondering about the design on the flag. Does anyone know if the flag is should read "SAN ANTONIO" on it? In my 1990 version of World Book The flag is depicted with text. Also I colored in the Alamo graphic in the center like it was in my old World Book. Should it be colored in, or is it white now days?
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Your 1990 encyclopedia is correct, however the official flag for the City of San Antonio does not currently have the words "San Antonio, Texas" on it. The words were removed from the original 1935 design in 1992 when the North American Vexillological Association held their convention there and informed the city that it is no longer appropriate to have words on a flag.
Also, and the Alamo image on the flag is white and should be corrected. 
IceBRG 22:13, 3 September 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Flag design 

message: Clipper,
The info about San Antonio being the 7th city in the US should be in the first paragraph of the intro. If you look at ALL of the other top 10 cities in the US, their population ranking info appears in the first paragraph, if not the first sentence of the article. I dont know why we should be any different. Verify yourself. This information is more important the other things youve put in the leading intro.--Zereshk 06:19, 22 June 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Population ranking

message: This was added today by 67.11.159.146.  The company appears to be growing and successful in their niche, but they are fairly small and apparently privately held.  I question whether they should be included with the other major players in this section; there are certainly other larger and more well-known SA-based companies that I'd add first. To me, the inclusion of Rackspace reeks of spam.  --JFreeman 03:14, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I'm not sure what prompted the addition of Rackspace, nor do I know their size. But perhaps they received more attention lately due to the Lowe's data center that was just announced for Westover Hills? I remember reading a blurb about Rackspace from that report in the SAEN.   Another story ran in the SABJ  and SAEN   about it being named one of the 50 Best Small & Medium Companies to Work For in America.  Clipper471 03:24, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Economy: Rackspace Managed Hosting? 

message: "58% of the population is of Hispanic origin and could be of any race."
I clearly think that this sentence is relativizing the Spanish-speaking majority of San Antonio. -- IMRE 14:38, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relativizing Spanish-speaking majority? 

message: Is anyone else having problems with the Trinity logo? I cannot see it, and I cannot link to the picture. Clipper471 03:30, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: No problems here.  Perhaps it was a problem with the server the picture was hosted on.  Seems to have cleared up now though.  --Brownings 16:57, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Trinity logo 

message: No consensus, see Talk:Houston, Texas#Requested move. Duja 07:45, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  Requested move 

message: Is there a King of San Antonio? I remember there was somebody with a title of something like king, and its still passed on.--Andrewcool 04:34, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: There's Rey Feo (sp?, Ugly King) each year during Fiesta, but I suspect that's not what you are referring to. :)  Beyond that, not sure. - TexasAndroid 13:04, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: Probably "King Antonio", named from the ranks of the Texas Cavaliers . --JFreeman (talk) 15:26, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: First I've heard of a King of San Antonio.  The only king I've ever heard of associated with the city is Rey Feo (yes, Android that's the right spelling) in Fiesta.  Who knows though, there might be a King of SA, but it's obviously not that well.  On second thought, I have heard of another "king," the Rib King of San Antonio, Randy Goss (owner of County Line).  He's used that slogan often in ads over the years.  --Brownings 16:13, 19 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  King of San Antonio 

message: There is a survey in progress at Wikipedia talk:Naming conventions (settlements) to determine if there is consensus on a proposed change to the U.S. city naming conventions to be consistent with other countries, in particular Canada. 
:This proposal would allow for this article to be located at San Antonio instead of San Antonio, Texas, bringing articles for American cities into line with articles for cities such as Paris and Toronto.--DaveOinSF 18:09, 28 October 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: However the proposal would allow U.S. cities to be inconsistent with the vast majority of other U.S. cities and towns, which (with a few exceptions) all use the "city, state" convention. -Will Beback 23:42, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Survey on proposal to make U.S. city naming guidelines consistent with others countries

message: Just a short while ago I saw someone add information stating that SA will be designated Texas's Capital in FY2008-2009. My opinion is this is in desparate need of a citation. Thank you  E. Sn0 =31337= Talk to me :D 22:33, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: That would be big news around Austin and San Antonio if it were true. I found nothing whatsoever to back it up, so I removed the reference from the article.  If the original author cares to provide something substantive to support the information, they're welcome to resubmit it. --JFreeman (talk) 23:05, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: I figured it was someone being silly.  E. Sn0 =31337= Talk to me :D 23:14, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Capital?

message: User drumguy8800 has proposed the San Antonio template (found at the bottom of most San Antonio pages) be changed for better organization.  I've come up with an idea for a new format, based on the State Template, which can be seen on San Antonio template's talk page.  If you have an opinion on the changes, please reply on the template's talk page, since the main discussion will occur there.  I'm making this post to get the word out and request input, rather than any change going through and the majority of people who work on San Antonio articles not knowing about it till it was too late. --Brownings 13:36, 22 November 2006 (UTC)
thread_title: Change to the San Antonio template

message: While I will completely agree with your characterizations of the tabloid and propagandistic nature of San Antonio's newscasts, I strongly and humbly suggest you find sources for these assertions. Please read Wikipedia Policy: No Original Research. Thank you. :)  E. Sn0 =31337= Talk 01:16, 15 December 2006 (UTC)
thread_title:  ATTN: 141.157.108.19