Talk:Haakon IV

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Barend 12:40, 9 November 2005 (UTC)
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message: I have only seen the saga referred to as 'hakonar saga hakonarsonar', and that is also the name of the copy of the original language version in my university library. The 'google-test' gives 20 500 Hakonar saga hakonarsonar, and 36 hakonar saga gamla. (Barend 16:57, 8 February 2006 (UTC)
replies: text: As far as i know, the saga calls him 'the Old' only to distinguish him from his son Hákon 'the Young', who was crowned as his heir and co-ruler, but died before his father. Hákon IV died at the age of 60 or 61, wich was older than most medeaval kings (and most men), but not as exceptionally old that it would be the basis of a nickname.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by 190.212.18.221 (talk) 21:18, 6 July 2009 (UTC)
replies: text:  It's like calling someone 'the Elder'. BodvarBjarki (talk) 11:41, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
thread_title:  Hakonar saga gamla <-> hakonar saga hakonarsonar 

message: Is the Sturlung-öld template really appropriate here? It's big, makes the article look messy, and only very peripherally connected to the topic of the article. I suggest deleting it.--Barend 12:42, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
thread_title:  "Sturlunga öld"-template? 

message: Tarnation! How does an English speaker pronounce this friggin' guy's name??
:Try thinking of a carnivorous bird, and then say "Hawkon Hawkonson".--Barend (talk) 15:53, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
replies: text:  Nope, that's a modern pronounciation; 'á' is just a long vowel a so it's pronounced like ahh.  —Preceding unsigned comment added by BodvarBjarki (talk • contribs) 11:39, 26 March 2010 (UTC)
replies: text: Nope, 'á' in Old Norse was, indeed, a long vowel, but it was also more closed than a short 'a'. It was like modern English 'aw'.--Barend (talk) 06:44, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Pronunciation Guide? 

message: It is good to see some good work done on this article again. I have an issue with the initial phrasing of Haakon's relationship with Skule, though. Saying he "shared the royal administration" with Skule until 1240, implies they were co-rulers, which they weren't. Skule was regent during Haakon's minority, but by 1240, Skule was a Duke and Haakon was king.--Barend (talk) 06:43, 2 May 2012 (UTC)
thread_title:  Relations with Skule 

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